| 00:00.01 | Phated | doub: Use fluxbox, then. I really don't care. I've used it. Blackbox is the shite one, anyway. |
| 00:00.03 | Guerin | doub: it antialiases fonts by default, and doesn't come with an annoying panel by default |
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| 00:00.15 | Dict_02x | shingouz, I dont have problems with the recognition of the card... I have problem with the include files and stuff, in the compile process |
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| 00:00.36 | shingouz | Dict_02x: you doing a custom kernel? |
| 00:00.47 | Langly | hmm even rawrite is writting no data even though the .bin file is the 1.4 meg file, and ive gotten it from 3 mirrors now |
| 00:00.52 | lewis | thomas_adam: i fixed it by moving the /var/www/phpmyadmin directory to my document root. i didn't have to have the phpmyadmin folder in document root before though. |
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| 00:00.57 | Langly | plus its claiming success in just 2s |
| 00:01.05 | Dict_02x | shingouz, no no no.... I am not doin' any kernel... I just want to install the driver... and [ make ] throws a driver error |
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| 00:01.08 | Langly | cant write a floppy that fast anywhere in this universe |
| 00:01.14 | doub | Guerin: just a matter of defaults? that's silly to me |
| 00:01.17 | Phated | Formatted your floppy? |
| 00:01.19 | lewis | silly question. i can't seem to gunzip a file, to a .gz |
| 00:01.29 | Guerin | doub: fair comment. |
| 00:01.32 | Langly | its a blank fat12 formatted disk |
| 00:01.34 | revelater | gunzip? |
| 00:01.43 | Phated | lewis: Eh? You gzip to get a .gz. |
| 00:01.44 | shingouz | Dict_02x: i am not sure how to do that, i just roll a custom kernel when i need some odd driver into it really |
| 00:01.45 | doub | Phated: ok thanks for the info :/ |
| 00:01.47 | lewis | :P |
| 00:01.49 | lewis | merci |
| 00:01.51 | Dict_02x | shingouz, ok |
| 00:01.54 | Guerin | doub: that's just the reason I chose it over flux :) |
| 00:02.03 | Langly | something might be wrong with my root.bin could i dcc it to someone to check it for me |
| 00:02.10 | Langly | although ive gotten from 3 mirrors now |
| 00:02.12 | Langly | same results |
| 00:02.13 | thomas_adam | lewis: Well, that would make sense. |
| 00:02.36 | Guerin | Langly: i blame either rawrite, windows, oy your floppy disk/drive |
| 00:02.42 | doub | Guerin: anyway, fanatism is based on just this kind of silly things |
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| 00:02.54 | FieldySnuts | @troll doub |
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| 00:02.57 | Guerin | doub: true. |
| 00:03.05 | revelater | lets say i wanted this computer to look like a bloze system, what WM would i have to apt-get? |
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| 00:03.14 | Guerin | but hell, you asked. I answered. Never claimed it was a GOOD answer. |
| 00:03.19 | thomas_adam | revelater: fvwm-themes has an XP theme. |
| 00:03.28 | Guerin | revelater: apt-get install bloze |
| 00:03.37 | Langly | hmm working this time |
| 00:03.40 | lewis | thomas_adam: ok - well, i didn't have to do that in the past - thanks though. i am now working on recovering my sql databases :) the .sql file is 4mb, so just gziped it to try and run it on phpmyadmin |
| 00:03.43 | revelater | Guerin: haha... funny |
| 00:03.49 | behrouz2005 | if i want to read my cd, i put in my cd first and then type mount /cdrom, right, but i'm getting a whole bunch of errors |
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| 00:04.09 | thomas_adam | lewis: Well, /var/www usually is your DocumentRoot, unless you changed it. |
| 00:04.15 | melazyboy | Ok i have a problem i just ran chown -R ./* ./.* because i wanted all files, and all hidden files to change owners, it borked my system, is there a way to reset the permissions on all files, of a debian based system ? |
| 00:04.33 | revelater | behrouz2005: try umount /cdrom |
| 00:04.36 | lewis | i did change it - in the past - there was probably a symobolic link or something behind the scenes |
| 00:04.36 | thomas_adam | melazyboy: Yes. |
| 00:04.46 | behrouz2005 | unmount u mean right |
| 00:04.49 | thomas_adam | melazyboy: But where did you run that command? From which dir? |
| 00:04.53 | dx^ | !info shaper |
| 00:04.59 | dpkg | shaper: (Traffic shaper init script (cbq.init) for Linux), section net, is extra. Version: 2.2.12-0.7.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 99 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 00:05.03 | melazyboy | /home/name, and it climbed up |
| 00:05.03 | revelater | mo umount |
| 00:05.08 | revelater | no umount |
| 00:05.13 | dx^ | damn |
| 00:05.15 | melazyboy | and changed every file on the whoel system's owner and group |
| 00:05.22 | Guerin | revelater: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=67&slide=30 |
| 00:05.29 | dx^ | anyone know a tutorial for this Shaper? |
| 00:05.29 | bob2 | haha osdir. |
| 00:05.33 | Guerin | yeah |
| 00:05.36 | dx^ | can't figure it out |
| 00:05.37 | behrouz2005 | just umount or umount /cdrom |
| 00:05.40 | doub | FieldySnuts: where? |
| 00:05.45 | melazyboy | thomas_adam: What is the command /method? |
| 00:05.48 | Guerin | all those osdir screenshot tours are such a worthless look at an OS |
| 00:05.53 | shingouz | behrouz2005: man umount |
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| 00:06.25 | Langly | Note to self: Rawrite32 blows goats |
| 00:06.31 | Guerin | karsten had a better xpde screenshot though |
| 00:06.49 | revelater | behrouz2005: umount /cdrom |
| 00:06.57 | thomas_adam | melazyboy: climed up? If you borked it, run chown username:username -Rv /home/username |
| 00:07.17 | thomas_adam | melazyboy: where 'username' is whatever the username is of the directory you changed previously. |
| 00:07.21 | behrouz2005 | it says cdrom is not mounted |
| 00:07.29 | karsten | Guerin: Howdat? |
| 00:07.30 | melazyboy | thomas_adam: I borked the WHOLE system, not just /home/username, i now how to run chown |
| 00:07.30 | revelater | if that doesn't work try mount /media/cdrom |
| 00:07.45 | doub | FieldySnuts: i've just seen people being furiously tell people to use openbox, as it's way much better than fluxbox, and i'm told it's just some fluxboxish thing with different defaults... i fail to see the troll thing. it's not like i've said "emacs is better than vi" |
| 00:07.50 | karsten | Guerin: linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Images/XP-screen.png |
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| 00:07.51 | revelater | or go into the media folder and look for the cdrom folder then try and mount it |
| 00:07.55 | melazyboy | thomas_adam: I need to reset the files to root:root or what ever username and owner files in /etc /sys /var need to run |
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| 00:08.10 | behrouz2005 | its telling me cant find media/cdrom |
| 00:08.12 | Guerin | karsten: thassaone |
| 00:08.16 | dx^ | !info cbq |
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| 00:08.23 | karsten | Guerin: Dig. |
| 00:08.26 | revelater | behrouz2005: go into media and type ls |
| 00:08.28 | doub | FieldySnuts: well, now i did it, so your troll factoid is retro-justified. |
| 00:08.30 | karsten | Guerin: Doesn't it just look *so* 'Doze? |
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| 00:08.38 | behrouz2005 | where's media |
| 00:08.39 | shingouz | behrouz2005: i am not sure how vmware operates but are you sure it is correctly configured? |
| 00:08.45 | shingouz | behrouz2005: in root |
| 00:08.50 | Guerin | doub: emacs IS better than vi, though. |
| 00:08.52 | behrouz2005 | ya linux is running |
| 00:09.00 | Guerin | emacs CAN BE vi :) |
| 00:09.03 | FieldySnuts | @start an editor war |
| 00:09.03 | ravenbird | edlin blows |
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| 00:09.08 | Ayoze | hi all |
| 00:09.11 | revelater | behrouz2005: the try to mount the first cdrom folder that comes up |
| 00:09.13 | doub | Guerin: indeed |
| 00:09.23 | Ayoze | I've recompiled x.org and when trying to play enemy-territory i get this error: "GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem". I've compiled and installed glx (in xc/lib/GL/glx) after the instalation of x.org, but there's nothing about it in the x.org log, anyone knows? |
| 00:09.37 | streuner_ | Guerin: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=255&slide=1&title=debian+screenshots |
| 00:09.42 | Guerin | Ayoze: using xorg? You're on your own. |
| 00:09.46 | behrouz2005 | where's the media folder |
| 00:09.53 | karsten | Guerin: Heretic! |
| 00:10.08 | revelater | behrouz2005: in the root filesystem |
| 00:10.13 | behrouz2005 | oh |
| 00:10.13 | shingouz | behrouz2005: in root. / that is |
| 00:10.19 | revelater | type cd /media |
| 00:10.30 | Ayoze | Guerin: sorry? |
| 00:10.48 | lewis | silly question: what is the command to load .sql file into a mysql server. something like: command < file.sql |
| 00:10.55 | Guerin | streuner_: that looks pretty nice for woody |
| 00:10.56 | behrouz2005 | it says no such file or directory |
| 00:10.59 | shingouz | behrouz2005, revelater: it is not folder btw, it is a directory |
| 00:11.11 | behrouz2005 | lol |
| 00:11.17 | Guerin | Ayoze: xorg isn't in debian. This is not a debian query. |
| 00:11.24 | shingouz | behrouz2005: in that case either the install is somehow screwed up or vmware has taken care of it |
| 00:11.31 | revelater | shingouz: i am used to macs and pcs, so its a folder when i feel like it ok? |
| 00:11.35 | Ayoze | Guerin: but maybe anyone had the same problem |
| 00:11.38 | streuner_ | Guerin: that would look nice for woody... |
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| 00:11.48 | revelater | behrouz2005: what version of debian are you running? |
| 00:12.01 | behrouz2005 | woody just downloaded it last wk |
| 00:12.01 | shingouz | revelater: i am used to linux so it is a directory when i feel like it, ok? |
| 00:12.06 | behrouz2005 | 3.0 i think |
| 00:12.09 | streuner_ | Guerin: GNOME 2.x |
| 00:12.13 | nichos | anyone converted avi (divx) to dvd? i keep getting an error using transcode: [import_ffmpeg.so] tried a 1000 times but could not decode frame and it stops |
| 00:12.25 | Guerin | streuner_: oh, the last shot is woody |
| 00:12.25 | Guerin | my bad |
| 00:12.30 | revelater | behrouz2005: ok that explains it, i don't know woody... get sarge!! |
| 00:12.36 | orchid | Ayoze: there is #xorg you might have better luck with than here |
| 00:12.42 | Ayoze | ok, thanks :D |
| 00:12.46 | ethics | lewis i think thats just a switch on mysql....man mysql |
| 00:12.51 | Ernesto_ | anyone knows a good guide to install the acx100 driver on linux? |
| 00:12.55 | revelater | g2g |
| 00:12.55 | shingouz | behrouz2005: it should be /cdrom |
| 00:13.14 | lewis | i did: mysql -u root < file.sql |
| 00:13.16 | lewis | it worked - thanks |
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| 00:13.41 | ethics | nichos: using what program? |
| 00:13.52 | melazyboy | how do you chmod all hidden files? those that match the regex /\^.[^.]/ of sort |
| 00:13.57 | nichos | ethics transcode |
| 00:14.13 | streuner_ | Guerin: and thats a little different ... http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=349&slide=5 |
| 00:14.19 | FieldySnuts | it's also a night of low comprehension |
| 00:14.24 | FieldySnuts | and bad engrish |
| 00:14.37 | Guerin | melazyboy: find, grep xargs |
| 00:14.43 | Guerin | melazyboy: use with extreme caution |
| 00:15.01 | melazyboy | there is no way to glob them in the chown? |
| 00:15.08 | ethics | nichos: i do most of my stuff through mencoder and kmenc15/acidrip......acidrip = dvd => mpg4/xvid/divx and i use kmenc15 15 for anything the other way or custom |
| 00:15.10 | thomas_adam | melazyboy: Why would you want to? |
| 00:15.17 | melazyboy | chown ./\.* ? or something |
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| 00:15.32 | karsten | melazyboy: ls -A | grep '^\.' |
| 00:15.47 | nichos | ethics could u dcc me some text with your command line options, or point me in the right direction? I just cant get anything to convert as of right now |
| 00:15.58 | karsten | FieldySnuts: So in Engrish you're FierdySnuts? |
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| 00:16.52 | jetscreamer | hey i'm going from static ip's to dhcp behind a router. what do i need to change |
| 00:16.53 | shingouz | luckily this channel is not in German as my gelman sucks ;) |
| 00:17.21 | ethics | nichos: mencoder is from the marillat sources i think (mplayer etc) and kmenc15 and acidrips are guis for them... |
| 00:17.22 | doub | jetscreamer: the world |
| 00:17.34 | doub | jetscreamer: or /etc/network/interfaces maybe |
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| 00:17.42 | behrouz2005 | anyone knows how to disable autorun on windows xp, i think thas stoppin linux from detectin my cd |
| 00:17.53 | ethics | nichos: no commandlines for me heheh...too many options to remember hehe |
| 00:17.57 | jetscreamer | ok anything else? install something? |
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| 00:18.05 | melazyboy | what does sudo must be set uid root mean? when sudo is owned by root:root? |
| 00:18.16 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: one has nothing to do with the other |
| 00:18.19 | shingouz | jetscreamer: probably not if you have a dhcp client installed |
| 00:18.19 | nichos | ethics likewise:) I'll check out apt.org for those, they dont seem to be in sid |
| 00:18.26 | doub | jetscreamer: dhclient but it should be there already |
| 00:18.28 | jetscreamer | ah dhcp client |
| 00:18.46 | jetscreamer | i took out ppp*, not sure about the ch* |
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| 00:18.50 | evand | melazyboy: there's an suid bit, it makes it run as the user it's owned by |
| 00:18.50 | jetscreamer | err dh* |
| 00:18.53 | shingouz | behrouz2005: just make the system into a dualbooter and stop futzing with vmware |
| 00:19.02 | evand | melazyboy: man chmod |
| 00:19.03 | ethics | !tell nichos about marillat |
| 00:19.09 | bob2 | oh god |
| 00:19.13 | bob2 | melazyboy is here, too |
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| 00:19.27 | doub | behrouz2005: or use vmware under linux |
| 00:19.34 | FieldySnuts | yeah I think i had enough of the poo tonight, later |
| 00:19.37 | behrouz2005 | i need to do a slow transition from windows to linux, settin up dualbooter is hard and might loose my files |
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| 00:19.44 | FieldySnuts | back them up, then |
| 00:19.48 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: worng on both counts |
| 00:19.52 | FieldySnuts | then you can screw it up all you want |
| 00:19.59 | bob2 | behrouz2005: how on earth could it loe your files? |
| 00:20.00 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: unless you mess with the partitions |
| 00:20.01 | shingouz | behrouz2005: the route you have picked is not easy |
| 00:20.20 | jetscreamer | qtparted sucks |
| 00:20.20 | jetscreamer | imo |
| 00:20.21 | nichos | thanks ethics |
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| 00:20.25 | doub | behrouz2005: you forgot it might also get you fired or taken away from home, make your wife go, whatever |
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| 00:20.34 | shingouz | jetscreamer: fdisk ;) |
| 00:20.43 | behrouz2005 | lol |
| 00:20.43 | ethics | behrouz2005, just rightclick the cdrom icon at the bottom on vmware and select disconnect......i only connect it when i need to ....treat it like mount for windows hehe |
| 00:20.44 | jetscreamer | yep |
| 00:20.54 | melazyboy | how do i change the suid of a file i though it was setting the octal to 1xxx yet it doesn't work sudo |
| 00:21.01 | jetscreamer | chmod +s |
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| 00:21.14 | evand | melazyboy: man chmod |
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| 00:21.52 | behrouz2005 | ethics, what happens when i disconnect the cdrom on vmware |
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| 00:22.01 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 00:22.10 | jetscreamer | s |
| 00:22.14 | doub | behrouz2005: well, to be perfectly true, you might get to the point your wife/girlfriend goes away without you noticing, but that's another problem |
| 00:22.14 | behrouz2005 | then i wouldn't be able to use my cdrom |
| 00:22.23 | ethics | nichos 8): np...be awarew that the defaults for acidrip are pretty amazing.....i ripped a move from 4.5 GB to 56 MB and its very watchable hehe...im going to try adjust those setting a little to make it a bit better for high motion |
| 00:22.27 | NewpZ | hi when i run.. "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" what file gets created? its not /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 00:22.39 | jetscreamer | yes it is NewpZ |
| 00:22.42 | dx^ | how can i limit (or shape) upload speed for BitTornado with Trickle? |
| 00:22.44 | jetscreamer | did you hand edit it? |
| 00:22.55 | ethics | behrouz2005, vmware bluffs windows saying the drive exists |
| 00:22.57 | FieldySnuts | badger edit |
| 00:22.59 | NewpZ | yeah, i have in the past.. |
| 00:23.08 | jetscreamer | NewpZ: read line 17 |
| 00:23.23 | NewpZ | ive even moved it out of the way and ran that... doesnt create a new one |
| 00:23.27 | jetscreamer | or grep -i md5sum |
| 00:23.32 | jetscreamer | NewpZ: read line 17 |
| 00:23.34 | NewpZ | # md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >/var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum |
| 00:23.39 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 00:23.39 | FieldySnuts | @fuck vmware |
| 00:23.40 | jetscreamer | do that |
| 00:23.49 | jetscreamer | then drxx again |
| 00:23.52 | jetscreamer | !drxx |
| 00:23.52 | dpkg | drxx is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
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| 00:24.11 | behrouz2005 | what do u guys got against vmware, i think its pretty cool |
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| 00:24.23 | jetscreamer | nothing, they don't want to babysit you though |
| 00:24.34 | jetscreamer | help out sure |
| 00:24.39 | jetscreamer | hold hand no |
| 00:24.39 | shingouz | behrouz2005: vmware is not really something you should use to learn linux on. just make the system into a dualbooter and go from there. a hell of a lot easier |
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| 00:25.21 | evand | behrouz2005: or find an old system somewhere; that's how I learned when I was distrustful of dual booting |
| 00:25.45 | doub | behrouz2005: or buy a cheap hard drive |
| 00:25.56 | behrouz2005 | the only problem i'm having now is linux is not detecting my cd, n dont think vmware is causin the problem |
| 00:26.15 | shingouz | behrouz2005: i do think it is causing the problem |
| 00:26.21 | jetscreamer | you don't have the line in fstab set up properly probably |
| 00:26.30 | jetscreamer | or if shingouz says yes then yes |
| 00:26.40 | dx^ | i've spend max $200 on my server and it's perfect for me |
| 00:27.09 | js_ | dx^: likewise |
| 00:27.25 | behrouz2005 | the last two lines of the error say "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many mounted file systems" |
| 00:27.27 | jetscreamer | resizing an ntfs partition isn't for n00bs |
| 00:27.35 | shingouz | behrouz2005: check if you have the mountpoint there in root in the first place. then check /etc/fstab for the correct entry |
| 00:27.36 | NewpZ | my vid card is an AGP... do i set it as ISA:1 ? |
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| 00:27.38 | jetscreamer | under linux i mean |
| 00:27.46 | jetscreamer | pci:1:0:0 |
| 00:27.59 | FieldySnuts | resizing any partition isn't for noobs and isn't safe |
| 00:27.59 | jetscreamer | PCI:1:0:0 |
| 00:28.02 | shingouz | behrouz2005: wrong fstab line or vmware |
| 00:28.28 | jetscreamer | but NewpZ you can just leave that blank... also you can leave the vid memory blank |
| 00:28.29 | behrouz2005 | wrong fs type |
| 00:28.34 | behrouz2005 | lol |
| 00:28.45 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: just put auto, not iso9660 or whatever |
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| 00:29.08 | jetscreamer | hell what is the line for the cdrom in fstab behrouz2005 |
| 00:29.20 | behrouz2005 | how do i do all of this, not sure where look to c if i have the mountpoint |
| 00:29.36 | jetscreamer | less /etc/fstab | grep -i cdrom |
| 00:29.40 | evand | behrouz2005: if you're mounting on say /cdrom, then /cdrom needs to exist |
| 00:30.23 | behrouz2005 | the cdrom directory exists |
| 00:30.39 | jetscreamer | i guess you don't want to paste the line.. ok g'luck |
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| 00:31.32 | behrouz2005 | no i did that |
| 00:31.32 | NewpZ | ok that sorta worked,, im still running at 1024x768 :( |
| 00:31.41 | behrouz2005 | what do i do after typing "less /etc/fstab | grep -i cdrom" |
| 00:31.42 | jetscreamer | when |
| 00:31.52 | behrouz2005 | right now |
| 00:31.53 | defkewl | does debian suited for desktop? |
| 00:31.54 | evand | paste into irc.... |
| 00:31.54 | jetscreamer | type the line returned here |
| 00:31.55 | fas3r | jethro je peux pas tester j'ai plus de batterie et j'ai oublier mon transfo, j'ai juste eu le temps de finir la recompil... |
| 00:31.55 | shingouz | !cluebat behrouz2005 |
| 00:31.56 | fas3r | vner |
| 00:32.35 | kaol | iptraf reports thousands of packages per second like "UDP (29 bytes) from 127.0.0.1:50643 to 127.0.0.1:13325 on lo". How would I go about finding the culprit? |
| 00:32.44 | jethro | !lose fas3r |
| 00:32.45 | dpkg | fas3r: You Lose. |
| 00:32.49 | jetscreamer | NewpZ: google your monitor, i find just googling the model number works best for me, learn the vertical and horizontal refresh rates, then choose that advanced option next time and enter the data |
| 00:33.10 | streuner_ | !mhallsmite defkewl |
| 00:33.10 | dpkg | Fuck defkewl. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 00:33.10 | behrouz2005 | it printed out this after i typed the command " /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0" |
| 00:33.12 | NewpZ | nothing comes up for it |
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| 00:33.33 | Gujiz | anyone know how can i _fully_ delete all apache installations? and install back fully with all confs etc... ? |
| 00:34.02 | bob2 | streuner_: dude |
| 00:34.04 | evand | Gujiz: as in apt-get remove --purge? |
| 00:34.08 | jetscreamer | heh... behrouz2005 try, as root, adduser your-user-name cdrom |
| 00:34.11 | shingouz | behrouz2005: so insert the damn cdrom and type "mount /cdrom" at the terminal |
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| 00:34.18 | streuner_ | bob2: dude |
| 00:34.23 | streuner_ | bob2: /whois |
| 00:34.25 | NewpZ | its a Slyvania CL772b .... model 780 |
| 00:34.29 | bob2 | streuner_: can you not do that? |
| 00:34.35 | k-man_ | what is the advantage of the new 64bit processors that are coming out? |
| 00:34.42 | bob2 | streuner_: ? |
| 00:34.45 | NewpZ | i know it does 1280x1024@75htz |
| 00:34.45 | jetscreamer | 64bits |
| 00:34.47 | k-man_ | will 64 bit be "Faster" than 32 bit? |
| 00:34.48 | jetscreamer | dual core |
| 00:34.52 | jetscreamer | no, slower |
| 00:34.53 | streuner_ | bob2: /whois defkewl /lastlog defkewl |
| 00:34.54 | behrouz2005 | shingooz: thas what i've been tryin to do all this time , i get an error |
| 00:35.00 | bob2 | k-man_: if you mean amd64, the advantage is they are fucking fast, relatively cheap, and let you handle tons of memory |
| 00:35.05 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: although, it really depends on what operations you're talking about |
| 00:35.10 | shingouz | behrouz2005: did you try it as root already? |
| 00:35.10 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: did you add yourself to the frickin cdrom group? |
| 00:35.17 | Langly | my old 64 bit machine is 266mhz |
| 00:35.21 | k-man_ | bob2, so the main advantage is you can have more than 4 gig of ram? |
| 00:35.25 | k-man_ | easily? |
| 00:35.30 | bob2 | k-man_: and they are fucking fast |
| 00:35.35 | evand | k-man: that and x86-64 is a better ISA |
| 00:35.38 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer, no how do i do that |
| 00:35.43 | bob2 | and mroe registers, etc |
| 00:35.44 | NewpZ | think i would have better luck with xorg? |
| 00:35.47 | bob2 | streuner_: yes, I read both of those |
| 00:35.47 | streuner_ | bob2: you unterstand now? |
| 00:36.02 | Langly | ive got an old Alpha 4/266 ill be putting linux on soon |
| 00:36.04 | fas3r | ba va y je te dirait ca demain |
| 00:36.07 | shingouz | behrouz2005: just do the mount as root now. lets add the user later |
| 00:36.08 | k-man_ | bob2, are they fucking fast in 32 bit mode? or just 64 bit modE? |
| 00:36.17 | bob2 | streuner_: no |
| 00:36.20 | erps | 2005-06-02 14:40:21 H=(debianTBox) [24.19.241.227] F=<user@serversdomain.tld> rejected RCPT <user@gmail.com>: relay not permitted <-- Ok, what the hell am I doing wrong. I backed all the way out and started fresh. This is a default install set to internet. And I can't get it to let me send email *grumble* |
| 00:36.22 | bob2 | k-man_: both |
| 00:36.24 | evand | k-man: they're more modern and mildly faster in 32 bit mode |
| 00:36.46 | bob2 | erps: the source ip for that email isn't allowed to relay through you |
| 00:36.53 | behrouz2005 | shingooz, i get the same error when i mount as root |
| 00:37.00 | k-man_ | Evand, do you mean 32bit mode is slightly faster than 64bit mode? |
| 00:37.04 | jetscreamer | NewpZ: your google-fu sucks http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001CVKAG/ref=e_de_a_td/103-0445408-5794220?v=glance&s=electronics&vi=tech-data |
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| 00:37.22 | evand | k-man: no, 32-bit on x86-64 is faster than on normal 32 bit chip |
| 00:37.23 | jetscreamer | hai-yah |
| 00:37.25 | shingouz | behrouz2005: and the error is? would it be possible to see it somehow? |
| 00:37.29 | erps | bob2, Ok. Can I make it so that's dependent on SMTP-AUTH and having a user account on the server then? |
| 00:37.30 | NewpZ | oh my |
| 00:37.34 | bob2 | erps: yes |
| 00:37.36 | NewpZ | it really does suck! |
| 00:37.40 | bob2 | erps: but I don't know how |
| 00:37.45 | evand | k-man_: 64 bit mode is faster than 32 for the vast majority of things |
| 00:37.49 | erps | bob2, ok. :( |
| 00:37.50 | bob2 | erps: you're going to need to find a howto or an exim dude |
| 00:37.53 | k-man_ | evand, oh, i see... |
| 00:37.54 | NewpZ | im ashamed.. worked to long today :) |
| 00:37.56 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: i told you how, try /lastlog jetscreamer or scroll up |
| 00:38.00 | fas3r | bye all |
| 00:38.02 | fas3r | ++++++++ |
| 00:38.05 | k-man_ | and how well does 64 bit debian work at the moment? |
| 00:38.06 | fas3r | good bgiht |
| 00:38.08 | erps | bob2, heh the exim dudes aren't answering, and all the howto's suck ass -- and the manual is confusing as hell. :p |
| 00:38.09 | fas3r | night |
| 00:38.15 | evand | k-man_: the confusion results because there are more differences than just 32/64 bits |
| 00:38.15 | jetscreamer | np newp :p |
| 00:38.33 | bob2 | k-man_: very |
| 00:38.36 | k-man_ | and can one run 32bit binaries in 64bit mode? |
| 00:38.44 | bob2 | k-man_: assuming you don't need proproietary junk |
| 00:38.45 | jetscreamer | heh... behrouz2005 try, as root, adduser your-user-name cdrom |
| 00:38.45 | bob2 | k-man_: no |
| 00:39.00 | k-man_ | ah, i see |
| 00:39.01 | bob2 | k-man_: you can run them in 32-bit mode with a 32/64-bit kernel (which the default is) |
| 00:39.03 | streuner_ | bob2: and don't call me dude. |
| 00:39.04 | k-man_ | its becoming clear to me |
| 00:39.09 | Desiac | installing on 64bit system, is there a debian release or ported release that is all 64bit? or should i just use the std vanilla |
| 00:39.14 | jetscreamer | hey, dude, don't call me dude |
| 00:39.14 | bob2 | streuner_: then stop being abusive |
| 00:39.16 | k-man_ | bob2, oh, i see... a specialy kernel? |
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| 00:39.32 | bob2 | k-man_: no, just a particular way to compile it (which everyone does) |
| 00:39.40 | jetscreamer | Desiac: yes there is but i don't think it's stable , not sure not up on it |
| 00:39.43 | bob2 | Desiac: there is one, but not released yet |
| 00:39.44 | k-man_ | bob2, so if i bought a 64 bit amd, should i install 64 bit debian on it (as opposed to 32 bit)? |
| 00:39.46 | bob2 | Desiac: #debian-amd64 |
| 00:39.53 | evand | k-man: there's 3 modes the chip can be in: full 32 bit, full 64 bit, and 64-bit kernel/ 32bit user |
| 00:39.55 | bob2 | k-man_: do you need to run proprietary junk? |
| 00:39.55 | zumbi | hello, i have a depency on k3b with dbus-qt-1, i try to search dbus-qt-1 and it is a experimental package, what could i do ? i am using unstable |
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| 00:40.19 | k-man_ | bob2, um.... nafaik... i intend to build a mythtv box though... |
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| 00:40.36 | _morbid_ | how to make debian not start pppoe connection at boottime? |
| 00:40.37 | k-man_ | the only possible thing could be drivers for some bizzare tv capture card or something |
| 00:40.38 | Desiac | bob2: that'd be pure64 hey? btw thnx |
| 00:40.38 | jetscreamer | zumbi: i don't have such a dependency, on an experimental package, and i just butned a couple dvd's today with k3b |
| 00:40.39 | evand | k-man: then yes, I'd say use a 64-bit OS |
| 00:40.46 | jetscreamer | burned |
| 00:40.59 | bob2 | Desiac: yes |
| 00:41.05 | k-man_ | evand, ok, thanks |
| 00:41.07 | behrouz2005 | shangooz: the error is like a page, the last two lines say wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many mounted file systems |
| 00:41.22 | bob2 | k-man_: or if you plan to use windows dlls to encode/decode video or something |
| 00:41.29 | shingouz | behrouz2005: in that case *you have problems with vmware* |
| 00:41.32 | k-man_ | bob2, ah good point |
| 00:41.34 | erps | Guerin, you know exim4 in and out right? At least have given me that impression. I've screwed around for almost 16 hours now, read the manual, and can't get this to *@U*#$ work and would really appreciate some help. Hell, down right need a bit of hand holding. The how-to's suck, and the manual is confusing - but has been somewhat helpful. And I'd really like to figure this out before next week :p |
| 00:41.38 | shogunx | morbid look in /etc/rc2.d and tweak the offending file. |
| 00:41.46 | k-man_ | bob2, but wouldn't they be ok with the 32/64 bit kernel? |
| 00:41.58 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: i've told you twice how to add yourself to the cdrom group... did you ever do it? |
| 00:41.58 | zumbi | jetscreamer, well, i bought a LG DVD writer today, and k3b didn't detect growisofs, and i tried to remove k3b and tried to install again, but now it depends on that pkg. |
| 00:42.11 | bob2 | k-man_: you'll need a 32-bit chroot |
| 00:42.18 | bob2 | k-man_: unless ia32-libs contains enough for you |
| 00:42.25 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: i dont know what the cdrom group is and how to add myself |
| 00:42.26 | jetscreamer | zumbi: no idea, mine found growisofs np. sorry. |
| 00:42.29 | shingouz | jetscreamer: i have a feeling that he pipes our comments to /dev/null |
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| 00:42.30 | k-man_ | bob2, oh, ok |
| 00:42.40 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: i will tell you for the 3rd and last time then |
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| 00:42.48 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005 try, as root, adduser your-user-name cdrom |
| 00:43.15 | jetscreamer | adduser behrouz2005 cdrom |
| 00:43.18 | jetscreamer | for instance |
| 00:43.19 | mhall | Alright, so I crashed an application and it dumped core. Now what do I do to find out what it was doing when the core got dumped? I googled but only found information on what to do when the whole system dumps core. |
| 00:43.31 | dondelelcaro | mhall: you run gdb on the corefile |
| 00:43.43 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: i did that, what does that do |
| 00:43.53 | jetscreamer | it adds you to the cdrom grou[ |
| 00:43.56 | jetscreamer | group |
| 00:43.58 | mhall | dondelelcaro: Yeah I thought of that, it bitched about it not being a binary. |
| 00:44.06 | mhall | dondelelcaro: What am I missing? |
| 00:44.14 | jetscreamer | which is the group that's allowed to access the cdrom |
| 00:44.17 | jetscreamer | weird eh |
| 00:44.19 | evand | mhall: run as gdb progfile in the dir |
| 00:44.23 | dondelelcaro | mhall: you're missing reading the manpage of gdb. It's gdb /usr/bin/fooexecutable corefile; |
| 00:44.32 | jetscreamer | hey behrouz2005 you probably want to add yourself to the audio group also |
| 00:44.33 | mhall | ah ok |
| 00:44.40 | shingouz | jetscreamer: i doubt that helps in this case as afaik he tried to mount as root and got a bunch or errors about bad superblocks and all |
| 00:44.44 | ethics | Newpz: try 60 hz |
| 00:45.00 | dondelelcaro | although, a corefile from a package without symbols is probably next to totally useless |
| 00:45.14 | jetscreamer | shingouz: no tellin :) |
| 00:45.14 | behrouz2005 | i did that but no luck |
| 00:45.25 | mhall | dondelelcaro: it's my own program |
| 00:45.30 | shingouz | nope... |
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| 00:45.36 | mhall | dondelelcaro: i can recompile with -g and recreate the bug |
| 00:45.39 | dondelelcaro | mhall: ah... well, then hopefully you built it with -g |
| 00:45.59 | dondelelcaro | mhall: or better, recreate the bug whilst the program is running from inside of gdb |
| 00:46.07 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: is it possible that i haven't installed linux properly |
| 00:46.07 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: after you add/delete ppl to/from groups, you/they need to log out and log in |
| 00:46.14 | zOap | I may be late, but I will pay my respect to Jon Danzig. He was a true spirit to the Linux environment... RIP |
| 00:46.38 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: does linux start/run? then no it's ;not possible :) |
| 00:46.44 | mhall | dondelelcaro: yeah it's multithreaded, might be hard to recreate in gdb |
| 00:46.54 | mhall | dondelelcaro: i'll screw around a while and see what happens |
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| 00:47.22 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: linux is running, what do u mean though |
| 00:47.24 | shingouz | behrouz2005: it is possible that the vmware is screwing up something. install a dualbooting sarge and you should be a lot better off really. stop screwing around with vmware for the moment, it is not intended for newbies to practice linux on, too many parameters all over the place |
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| 00:47.37 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: i mean if it's running it's installed properly |
| 00:47.45 | shingouz | on vmware.. |
| 00:47.51 | behrouz2005 | ya |
| 00:48.13 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: i know nothing of vmware, all i can suggest is listen to shingouz |
| 00:48.16 | evand | behrouz2005: you could also consider using a bootable cd eg knoppix |
| 00:48.17 | zumbi | do you know any soft like k3b that records dvd ? |
| 00:48.40 | shingouz | behrouz2005: check the vmware configs and make them correct to begin with |
| 00:48.43 | orchid | ive upgraded a server from woodyt to sarge, now inetd is listening on port 113, it never used to, does anyone know what would need to listen on that port? |
| 00:49.02 | jetscreamer | if you have the hd space and no need to mess with your windows partition, it's ok. if you would need to mess with it,, leave it alone till you can get another hd and just run some live cd like #kanotix |
| 00:49.04 | fusQuanto | identd = 113 |
| 00:49.08 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ^^^ |
| 00:49.35 | behrouz2005 | okay i'll look at my vmware configs |
| 00:49.41 | behrouz2005 | thanks |
| 00:49.44 | jetscreamer | or what evand said, but kanotix :) |
| 00:49.51 | shingouz | ffs... :) |
| 00:49.56 | evand | jetscreamer: what's that one? |
| 00:50.12 | jetscreamer | a knoppix offshoot |
| 00:50.32 | covux | is there a debian way to get/compile _latest_ alsa drivers if alsa-source experimental package is outdated. i need it because i have a new soundcard which is not fully supported by the standard alsa drivers which come with the kernel-image |
| 00:50.34 | jetscreamer | more pure debian than knoppix |
| 00:50.40 | evand | ah. I haven't messed with live cd's since I last used one to un-bork windows :) |
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| 00:51.08 | jetscreamer | actively maintained, which is always nice, good suppport |
| 00:51.19 | evand | that does sound handy :) |
| 00:51.29 | evand | is it as good at the "just plain works" thing? |
| 00:51.36 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: when i type "less /etc/fstab | grep -i cdrom" it outputs this /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,no auto o o |
| 00:51.40 | behrouz2005 | does that seem right |
| 00:52.10 | shingouz | behrouz2005: it does but that is not a vmware config |
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| 00:52.15 | sineer | yo! |
| 00:52.16 | MrKeuner | anybody having problem with cups recently? When I try to add a new printer, the device list appears to be empty. What may be the problem? foomatic? |
| 00:52.21 | orchid | fusQuanto: yeah, seems pidentd is intalled |
| 00:52.28 | evand | wait... is there a space in noauto? |
| 00:52.37 | behrouz2005 | no |
| 00:52.37 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: yes, i add gid= and uid= to mine... /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,users,noauto,gid=24,uid=1000 0 0 |
| 00:53.10 | behrouz2005 | what do u mean by adding gid and uid |
| 00:53.12 | jetscreamer | my uid is 1000, aka the first created user |
| 00:53.18 | jetscreamer | read above |
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| 00:53.29 | ethics | behrouz2005: ok lets try circumvent this.....what version ov vmware are you using? |
| 00:53.35 | shingouz | behrouz2005: isnt it about time for you to read the man-page for fstab? |
| 00:53.36 | jetscreamer | 24 is group |
| 00:53.46 | jetscreamer | err 24 is cdrom group |
| 00:54.42 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ls -lA /dev/cdrom |
| 00:54.46 | sineer | I'm building my kernel-image as debs as usual with make-kpkg and there's grub that's fucking me when I bootup :( something about rootvs, I was using initrd images and it just stoped working dunno why! I then tried to revert to non initrd debs and remake without initrd but it still won't work even after I disabled initrd from /etc/kernel-img or somethinglikethat.. anyone could help please? I'm st5uck with a 2.4 kernel and don't hav |
| 00:54.46 | sineer | e the headers so I can't run vmware... Woahhhh! |
| 00:54.59 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: you could just specify the group and uid by name, not number. |
| 00:55.07 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 00:55.19 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: alright did that |
| 00:55.20 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 00:55.26 | jetscreamer | so what did it say |
| 00:55.34 | jetscreamer | this is like pulling teeth |
| 00:55.36 | dondelelcaro | (not that it makes much difference) |
| 00:55.48 | ethics | sineer why compile and not apt? |
| 00:55.49 | jetscreamer | don't have to look up the group number |
| 00:55.57 | sineer | do_initrd = no, I have a kernel made without initrd and ran update-grub and it won't boot, rootvs not found something.. |
| 00:56.05 | behrouz2005 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 29 12:59 /dev/cdrom -> hdc |
| 00:56.11 | sineer | ethics, because I compile my own kernel... |
| 00:56.18 | dondelelcaro | sineer: then you haven't built in all of the modules that you need to boot into the kernel. |
| 00:56.20 | jetscreamer | ok behrouz2005 now ls -lAd /dev/hdc |
| 00:56.48 | jetscreamer | all i care is does it say disk, or cdrom |
| 00:56.59 | behrouz2005 | alright |
| 00:57.07 | shingouz | dammit.. is it really so hard to check the documentation on vmware too... the debian seems to be set up properly |
| 00:57.08 | michal_ | does anyone know of any current howto's on setting up a debian based email spam/virus filtering gateway? (ie not a mailserver but something multiple mailservers can use to filter out viruses and spam) |
| 00:57.14 | jetscreamer | well root disk or what |
| 00:57.36 | jetscreamer | let me cleanse this then we blame vmware |
| 00:57.43 | ethics | shingouz: vmware is simple as far as configs....im running on vmware5 atm... |
| 00:57.45 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: it output brw-rw---- 1 root disk 22, 0 Mar 14 2002 /dev/hdc |
| 00:57.51 | Langly | E-machines should all be lauched into space and directed to the nearest black hole |
| 00:58.00 | shingouz | ethics: on linux or doze? |
| 00:58.01 | Langly | Launched |
| 00:58.02 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: chown root:cdrom /dev/hdc |
| 00:58.22 | ethics | Shing: win2k with debian in a vm at work and reverse at home |
| 00:58.33 | sineer | dondelelcaro, hrmm.. all I needed was to add emu10k1 mod to my b4 working config |
| 00:58.34 | behrouz2005 | okay didn't output anything |
| 00:58.36 | ethics | shingouz, ^^ |
| 00:58.40 | shingouz | :) |
| 00:58.53 | shingouz | ethics: /msg dpkg nicktab ;) |
| 00:58.54 | michal_ | only one i can find is about 8 months old and based around amavisd-new |
| 00:58.57 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: shouldn't. now ls -lAd /dev/hdc again |
| 00:59.12 | jetscreamer | disk should have changed to cdrom |
| 00:59.18 | sparr_ | i am now 1TB richer and $480 poorer |
| 00:59.36 | dondelelcaro | sineer: that may be true, but if you were using an initrd before, you need all of the modules that were in the initrd compiled into the kernel. |
| 00:59.46 | Langly | sparr_ but your e-wang is larger now |
| 00:59.47 | ethics | shingouz, yah i missed it and got capslock hehehe...lucky im not screaming now hehe |
| 00:59.57 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: ya it says cdrom instead |
| 00:59.59 | jetscreamer | ok behrouz2005 after you did the adduser behrouz2005 cdrom, DID YOU LOG OUT and log back in |
| 01:00.05 | shingouz | ethics: hehehe |
| 01:00.29 | behrouz2005 | no i didn't log out gonna do that now |
| 01:00.44 | jetscreamer | ls -lA /cdrom |
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| 01:00.56 | jetscreamer | and make sure it points at /dev/cdrom or hdc |
| 01:01.24 | ethics | shingouz, jetscreamer : the only thing you have to remember with vmwares is that if your using a device in one os you cant use it in the os at the same time.....sound is a bitch and i disconnect cdroms and reconnect them as required only |
| 01:01.31 | jetscreamer | now if it doesn't work, it's either the cd media, the cdrom is broke, or it's vmware |
| 01:01.33 | behrouz2005 | how do i logout properly |
| 01:01.42 | jetscreamer | exit |
| 01:01.47 | jetscreamer | if in a console |
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| 01:02.14 | ethics | shingouz, jetscreamer : other than that they are all just generically supported by sarge......id say woody too but i havent tried it but the hardware emulations are oldschool |
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| 01:02.25 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: do i type ls -lA /cdrom in root |
| 01:02.42 | jetscreamer | as root or whoever not important |
| 01:02.47 | evand | behrouz2005 : doesn't matter |
| 01:02.58 | sineer | damn.. pc froze cause I had agp8x selected on a 4x card heh |
| 01:03.34 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: it ouput "total 0" |
| 01:03.49 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 01:03.49 | sineer | dondelelcaro, any clue of what settings might be missing that make rootvs not found or block 3.0 something.. arr I forgot the exact message but it can't mount / and something about rootvs :( |
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| 01:04.21 | evand | arrgh... programs without debian packages annoy me :) especially when they won't compile.... |
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| 01:04.28 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: you typed ls -lA /cdrom , correct? |
| 01:04.37 | behrouz2005 | yep |
| 01:04.53 | ethics | evand hehe yeah i have been getting that a bit in the last 3 weeks hehe |
| 01:04.55 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ln -sn /dev/cdrom /cdrom |
| 01:05.14 | behrouz2005 | okay |
| 01:05.17 | evand | ethics: and the funny thing is, it compiled yesterday.... |
| 01:05.24 | sean_micken | when i updated kernel-source-2.6.8, i noticed that the "last modified" time on the /usr/src/kernel-source.2.6.8.tar.bz2 file is still the old one... so, what did it update? |
| 01:05.24 | jetscreamer | ls -lA /cdrom |
| 01:05.30 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ^^ |
| 01:05.46 | behrouz2005 | still says total 0 |
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| 01:05.58 | ethics | evand, what proggy? |
| 01:06.04 | evand | ethics: stepmania |
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| 01:06.56 | sineer_ | shit :( |
| 01:06.56 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ln -sn /dev/cdrom /cdrom <<<--you did that? |
| 01:07.15 | sineer_ | dondelelcaro it wasn't agp8x after all.. well if you said something I didn't catch it cause the other box frooze again :( |
| 01:07.25 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: yep |
| 01:07.34 | ethics | evand, never heard of it heheh...but thats not surprising with all the silly names we find hehe |
| 01:07.34 | ethics | evand, whats it do? |
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| 01:07.48 | evand | ethics: dance dance revolution emulator thingy |
| 01:08.11 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ls /cd* |
| 01:08.17 | evand | ethics: it seems to disagree with various pieces of my setup; it won't even pick one :( |
| 01:08.32 | ethics | evand, as in like those dance machines at say timezone/galactic circus etc? |
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| 01:09.00 | evand | ethics: indeed. you can get pads and computer programs and such |
| 01:09.32 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: ls /cd* |
| 01:09.56 | ethics | evand: hmm my bender case would look good dancing on oneof those......i really gotta spend more itme doing robotics hehe |
| 01:10.07 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: the output is "AutoRun Autorun.inf Data DirectX.exe Manual setup.exe", i put in a different cd n getting a different error when i mount |
| 01:10.16 | evand | ethics: robots are fun, but we've probably drifted offtopic :) |
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| 01:10.40 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: you have to umount /cdrom , eject the disk, insert new disk, then mount /cdrom |
| 01:10.45 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: it's working |
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| 01:10.54 | clc | so why doesnt my mouse work in debian! :'( |
| 01:10.55 | u9 | hi all, i'm having a problem with sudo i dont know wtf is going on here, im hoping somebody can help |
| 01:11.00 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: when i do ls in root there is a cdrom directory but i cant run it |
| 01:11.01 | jetscreamer | !xwontstart |
| 01:11.01 | dpkg | modprobe mousedev sometimes helps, or looking at the log in /var/log sometimes helps too |
| 01:11.03 | ethics | !topicsmite evand |
| 01:11.04 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon evand. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:11.14 | u9 | i want sudo to ask for a password, the entry i have in sudoers is %sudo ALL=(ALL) PASSWD: ALL |
| 01:11.19 | u9 | my user is in the sudo group |
| 01:11.21 | u9 | yet it doesn't prompt |
| 01:11.28 | u9 | just allows the command with the password |
| 01:11.35 | u9 | without sorry |
| 01:11.37 | shingouz | behrouz2005: what do you mean "can't run it" |
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| 01:11.46 | clc | so anyway, X is configured correctly (i think) now why wont my mouse work! |
| 01:12.19 | behrouz2005 | in root when i type ls, there is a cdrom file not a directory, how do i open it |
| 01:12.28 | u9 | i also tryed setting the Default authenticate variable and it still doesn't matter |
| 01:12.38 | shingouz | behrouz2005: you cd into it... |
| 01:12.38 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: those autorun data dirctx... those were on a cd you had in there. your cd is functioning. you must umount before changing cd's. i can't help you with running stuff. g'luck. you might add exec to the fstab line, man fstab |
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| 01:12.51 | ethics | behrouz2005, its a directory |
| 01:13.00 | ethics | behrouz2005, autorun doesnt exist in linux... |
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| 01:13.09 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: when the cd isn't mounted, all you see is an empty directory |
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| 01:13.31 | jetscreamer | you mount the cd on the /cdrom directory, aka mount point |
| 01:13.37 | CyL | How do I change my carachter enconding in the console? |
| 01:13.46 | shingouz | we had a nice n00b faq somewhere, if you know the trigger for it... ;) |
| 01:13.54 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure locales && dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 01:14.21 | nakga | hi, when i login to chat, the last msg on the screen reads "received a CTCP Version from freenode-connect", what does it mean? |
| 01:14.27 | jetscreamer | !listkeys n00b |
| 01:14.29 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'n00b' by key (1): n00b. |
| 01:14.37 | jetscreamer | it means they're versioning you |
| 01:14.37 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: sweeet how do i add exec to the fstab line |
| 01:14.52 | u9 | anybody know much about sudo that can help me here? |
| 01:14.53 | nakga | what is meant by that? |
| 01:14.58 | jetscreamer | behrouz2005: with a text editor.. nano is my choice in console, there are many others |
| 01:14.59 | evand | behrouz2005: with your favorite editor |
| 01:15.07 | nakga | 'version' me? |
| 01:15.08 | clc | so is there any bugs with i810 and ps2 mice in sarge? |
| 01:15.28 | jetscreamer | they want to know what you're running i guess |
| 01:15.39 | evand | clc: do you have all relevant modules installed and such like? |
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| 01:15.53 | shingouz | behrouz2005: /msg dpkg newbie_guide |
| 01:15.56 | CyL | How do I change the character encondig in the console? |
| 01:16.00 | nakga | jetscreamer, don't you get it too? |
| 01:16.10 | nakga | i mean the msg. |
| 01:16.14 | jetscreamer | clc sarge installer, after it's all installed and everything, and you reboot once or twice, seems to not load mousedev |
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| 01:16.26 | jetscreamer | cyl i already told you |
| 01:16.40 | clc | hmm whats mousedev? a daemon? |
| 01:16.51 | ethics | clc, no probs |
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| 01:17.00 | CyL | jetscreamer okay, now I can see it... thanks.... |
| 01:17.05 | jetscreamer | it's a module for the mouse dev thingy.. (i dunno) |
| 01:17.11 | clc | i was just confused bc gpm works fine ... and i actually wrote in the XF86Config-4 |
| 01:17.21 | clc | evand: modules for what? |
| 01:17.24 | ethics | !listkeys mouse |
| 01:17.25 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'mouse' by key (15 of 32): ! my mouse ;; 2.6 mouse ;; anonymouse ;; damouse ;; fast_mouse ;; fastmouse ;; intellimouse ;; mouse ;; mousewheel ;; optical mouse camera ;; reverse mouse ;; rgmmouse ;; usb mouse ;; usbmouse ;; wheelmouse. |
| 01:17.28 | evand | clc: kernel modules |
| 01:17.29 | jetscreamer | !gpm |
| 01:17.29 | dpkg | gpm is, like, if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 01:17.40 | clc | ah i thought sarge would do it for me .. since gpm works |
| 01:17.59 | clc | ah |
| 01:18.03 | clc | i didnt even have gpm installed |
| 01:18.12 | clc | but then i installed it to see if it really was the mouse |
| 01:18.16 | behrouz2005 | jetscreamer: thanks man |
| 01:18.19 | jetscreamer | np |
| 01:18.26 | jetscreamer | been there |
| 01:18.30 | clc | so that sounds to me like a bug |
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| 01:18.54 | nakga | can anyone recommend a Linux image editor that can handle at least .jpg? |
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| 01:19.19 | jetscreamer | !info gimp |
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| 01:19.19 | shingouz | nakga: imagemagick, gimp |
| 01:19.19 | dpkg | gimp: (The GNU Image Manipulation Program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-1 (sid), Packaged size: 3016 kB, Installed size: 8156 kB |
| 01:19.19 | evand | nakga: gimp? or something less overkill? |
| 01:19.20 | ethics | nakga gimp.... |
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| 01:19.33 | jetscreamer | !worship the gimp |
| 01:19.40 | shingouz | hehe |
| 01:19.45 | evand | :) |
| 01:19.52 | nakga | thks, gimp has the most vote. |
| 01:20.02 | evand | speaking of such things... anyone know of a graphical util that will do lossless jpg crops? |
| 01:20.13 | u9 | fuck graphics |
| 01:20.17 | u9 | why do you want that |
| 01:20.18 | jetscreamer | it is a full blown ps equiv, so if it's overkill you might wanna look at a smaller package |
| 01:20.27 | evand | heh, because I like to see what I'm cropping to :) |
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| 01:20.33 | u9 | graphics ruined computing |
| 01:20.46 | evand | but without graphics there is no freeciv :) |
| 01:20.49 | jetscreamer | no, windows 2.0 did |
| 01:20.51 | ethics | nakga gimp is like the closest to photoshop/paintshop pro etc......raster graphics only tho..no vector stuff unless its updates recently |
| 01:20.52 | u9 | still have nethack |
| 01:20.58 | shingouz | u9: you have my permission to remove --purge X ;) |
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| 01:21.03 | bug_code | hi everybody..somebody can help my with begginer questions about installation? |
| 01:21.09 | u9 | hehe |
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| 01:21.24 | nakga | ethics, raster graphics would be fine for me. |
| 01:21.27 | shingouz | bug_code: just ask... /me sighs |
| 01:21.28 | orchid | bug_code: just ask |
| 01:21.39 | jetscreamer | gimp has some raster stuff iirc i forget |
| 01:21.40 | ethics | u9: where do you want me to sent these wyse terminals? |
| 01:21.42 | bug_code | is ridiculous. I need install 'nv' module to start Gnome |
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| 01:21.47 | kelan | !start a cartoon war |
| 01:21.47 | dpkg | The Powerpuff Girls can kick Bugs Bunny's ass! |
| 01:21.49 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 01:21.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic (sicco)! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 01:21.53 | kelan | that is no true |
| 01:21.55 | jetscreamer | modprobe nv |
| 01:22.00 | bug_code | i tried |
| 01:22.03 | nakga | what's this lossless jpg cropping mentioned earlier? |
| 01:22.14 | resiak | bug_code: What makes you think that? |
| 01:22.16 | bug_code | bu i need any nv file |
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| 01:22.18 | timt | anyone know what package mtr comes with? |
| 01:22.22 | ethics | nakga then gimps about the most encompassing then |
| 01:22.22 | jetscreamer | bug_code: as root? |
| 01:22.26 | karsten | !tell timt about search |
| 01:22.27 | bug_code | yes |
| 01:22.27 | evand | nakga: jpg->bitmap->crop->jpg is silly; the transcode is potentially lossy |
| 01:22.28 | u9 | does anybody use the sudo package with debian sarge? |
| 01:22.35 | jetscreamer | timt mtrr is a module i 'think' |
| 01:22.38 | karsten | !tell u9 about polls |
| 01:22.50 | jetscreamer | u9 i just use it for myself nothing fancy |
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| 01:23.07 | u9 | i can't figure out how to make sudo ask for a password, i tried editing the sudoers file but i wont ask |
| 01:23.08 | jetscreamer | u9 was kinda patient iimo, karsten |
| 01:23.12 | bug_code | The system need to see any directory to install the module, don't? |
| 01:23.20 | ticktoc | ooppsss... i f*ed up... installed webmin 1.21 and it wouldn't connect.. no errors, it would just hang and not do anything at https://localhost:10000 ... Got pi**ed and deleted all the files and now cant'reinstall cause it says port 10000 is being used by another app.. YIKES.. where do i go to fix that one? |
| 01:23.28 | jetscreamer | !webmin |
| 01:23.28 | dpkg | i heard webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 01:23.41 | timt | ùdpkgù karsten wants you to know: hmm... search is try 'apt-cache search |
| 01:23.42 | timt | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.42 | timt | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.42 | timt | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.42 | timt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:23.47 | evand | ticktoc: apt-get remove --purge webmin? |
| 01:23.50 | u9 | im hoping there is a sudo export that can tell me what i'm doing wrong |
| 01:23.55 | u9 | expert |
| 01:23.59 | nakga | i am off to try some image editing w gimp. bye, guys. |
| 01:24.06 | karsten | u9: Remove yourself from the wheel group. |
| 01:24.08 | kelan | does anyone like polls? |
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| 01:24.23 | shingouz | kelan: want to be larted? :) |
| 01:24.25 | zumbi | jetscreamer, i resolved that k3b dependency, it was because apt was graving k3b from rarewaves repository, i almost go to experimental because of it. :') |
| 01:24.26 | jetscreamer | karsten: for real? :) |
| 01:24.26 | kelan | heh |
| 01:24.31 | u9 | karsten: my user isn't in the wheel group, i added it to the sudo group |
| 01:24.32 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 01:24.37 | karsten | jetscreamer: ? |
| 01:24.43 | jetscreamer | the wheel group thing |
| 01:24.47 | u9 | the line i have in sudoers is %sudo ALL=(ALL) PASSWD: ALL |
| 01:24.47 | orchid | bug_code: what is the error you get when you type(as root): modprope nv |
| 01:24.49 | u9 | yet it still asks |
| 01:25.02 | u9 | er doesn't ask |
| 01:25.03 | karsten | jetscreamer: I _think_ so. |
| 01:25.05 | u9 | i'd prefer it to ask for each user |
| 01:25.05 | ericb_ | anyone knows if j2ee is free for developpers or home users ? |
| 01:25.08 | ticktoc | unfortunately not installed from deb file... |
| 01:25.13 | ericb_ | oups |
| 01:25.15 | bug_code | the system say tht the file don't exist |
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| 01:25.16 | ericb_ | sorry wrong channel |
| 01:25.18 | karsten | u9: Remove it from that group. You don't need to be any specific groups to use sudo. |
| 01:25.29 | bug_code | the system can't find the source to install |
| 01:25.35 | bug_code | i guess |
| 01:25.46 | shingouz | ticktoc: i'd say you are screwed. you need to go through the install files i guess |
| 01:25.50 | jetscreamer | ericb_: not the enterprise edition iirc, but the preview editions are.. |
| 01:25.51 | u9 | karsten: i'm trying to limit all my users who can use sudo to the sudo group though, there are some users i dont' want to be able to use sudo |
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| 01:25.58 | karsten | u9: Run 'sudo -k' then 'sudo -v' |
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| 01:26.03 | u9 | ok |
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| 01:26.17 | Servo888 | Is there a way to du -ah but only return directory sizes? |
| 01:26.20 | karsten | u9: ...you should clear the password, then be re-prompted for it on the second command. |
| 01:26.22 | jetscreamer | !lart gpm |
| 01:26.23 | ticktoc | wouldn't it be in that table of internet ports? I just cant remember the frigin name of the file.. |
| 01:26.33 | orchid | bug_code: what kernel? (uname -r) |
| 01:26.41 | karsten | u9: So you've got sudo chmod'd 550? |
| 01:26.44 | bug_code | 2.2.20 - idepci |
| 01:26.53 | bug_code | I only install from CD |
| 01:26.54 | ec_ | where can i find a log of packages installed (debian)? |
| 01:26.54 | ec_ | heh i guess the debian was implied |
| 01:26.55 | bug_code | in GH |
| 01:26.56 | jetscreamer | that's a good reason |
| 01:26.58 | ericb_ | people still use kernel 2.2.20 |
| 01:26.59 | shingouz | bug_code: woody? |
| 01:27.00 | ericb_ | wow |
| 01:27.01 | ericb_ | amazing |
| 01:27.02 | u9 | well, i ran that, it still didn't prompt |
| 01:27.03 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.05 | u9 | this is odd |
| 01:27.06 | karsten | u9: If users aren't in the sudo file, they can't use sudo ;-) |
| 01:27.07 | bug_code | yes..woody |
| 01:27.10 | bug_code | all default |
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| 01:27.22 | shingouz | bug_code: sarge is the way today.... |
| 01:27.30 | bug_code | there is a command to enter a menu screen to install modules, don't? |
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| 01:27.39 | shingouz | modprobe |
| 01:27.40 | jetscreamer | bug_code: modconf |
| 01:27.41 | bug_code | sarge? |
| 01:27.49 | jetscreamer | !tell bugcode about d-i |
| 01:27.53 | bug_code | modconf -v? |
| 01:27.56 | bug_code | maybe? |
| 01:28.07 | jetscreamer | bug_code: just modconf, it's a ncurses gui thingy |
| 01:28.13 | bug_code | ok |
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| 01:28.22 | bug_code | i will try it. i'm the windows :-( |
| 01:28.40 | chealer | ec_: nowhere |
| 01:28.40 | bug_code | thanks for help |
| 01:28.43 | orchid | if modprobe wont load nv how will modconf load it? |
| 01:28.52 | jetscreamer | bug_code: that kernel may not have nv for all i know. it's an installer kernel, you should probably at least update to a 2.4 kernel |
| 01:29.07 | resiak | !real kernel |
| 01:29.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, real kernel is The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. First though, do apt-cache search kernel-image- . Woody install kernels have several known vulnerabilities, including local roots & remote DoSes |
| 01:29.08 | orchid | cant he apt-get a 2.4 kernel? |
| 01:29.14 | jetscreamer | orchid: i was answering his question.. lemme find it |
| 01:29.15 | resiak | Oh well. |
| 01:29.37 | jetscreamer | [20.27.37] <bug_code> there is a command to enter a menu screen to install modules, don't? |
| 01:29.38 | karsten | u9: Confirm that you do *NOT* have a PASSWD flag in /etc/sudoers. |
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| 01:29.53 | orchid | jetscreamer: ahh sry, didnt see that |
| 01:29.57 | resiak | shingouz: He also used Woody :-) |
| 01:29.58 | karsten | u9: You should also be able to force password auth via 'authenticat' flag. man (5) suders |
| 01:30.06 | karsten | u9: s/suders/sudoers/ |
| 01:30.08 | jetscreamer | yeah i never would have guessed woody |
| 01:30.20 | shingouz | ..he coulda bee on potato |
| 01:30.20 | jetscreamer | can we stop supporting woody now? :) |
| 01:30.45 | jetscreamer | truthfully, the woody coders were a lot tighter imo |
| 01:31.03 | toresbe | Hmmmm |
| 01:31.08 | pekkele | why we use linux bicause there is allready good software windows :D |
| 01:31.08 | toresbe | ~luminocity |
| 01:31.12 | toresbe | ~luminosity |
| 01:31.17 | toresbe | oh wait |
| 01:31.20 | toresbe | !luminocity |
| 01:31.22 | ethics | jetscreamer, i think woody has a 1 years till death timeline from what i read somewhere |
| 01:31.31 | toresbe | !luminosity |
| 01:31.35 | jetscreamer | pekkele: it's for when you find out that windows isn't really good, it's just ok |
| 01:31.36 | toresbe | hmm, naught. |
| 01:31.41 | karsten | u9: Still here? |
| 01:31.46 | jetscreamer | pekkele: until then, windows is good enough for you |
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| 01:31.48 | Langly | Begining Linux install on my quad ppro so far so good |
| 01:31.51 | toresbe | Anyone here know if there are Luminosity pkg's for Debian? |
| 01:31.56 | toresbe | Langly: oooh, envy :) |
| 01:32.09 | Langly | only 200mhz procs but still nice |
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| 01:32.14 | jetscreamer | okie i go to play with my new router byebye |
| 01:32.21 | Langly | Trying to find the 333mhz overdrive procs for it |
| 01:32.28 | shingouz | Langly: be smart and install only a console to begin with, get the hardware working and only after that start with X |
| 01:32.30 | Langly | ive found 1 here and there, but never 4 |
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| 01:33.37 | Langly | Was hoping to get a old E-Machines ive got here working as a low end linux machine, but when it tries to load setup screens after vga settings, it either goes blank, or core dumps |
| 01:33.41 | Langly | utter rubbish |
| 01:33.51 | shingouz | Langly: just get one at a time then, you do not need them to be exactly the same unless you are running something really mission critical on the system |
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| 01:33.55 | kelan | change your shell to /usr/bin/X11/X |
| 01:34.01 | kelan | thats the best way to run things |
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| 01:34.42 | shingouz | kelan: you sure you have had enough caffeine and sugar today? |
| 01:35.00 | Techman | hi |
| 01:35.21 | Techman | anybody know where can i find a .deb of taskbar v2? |
| 01:35.22 | kelan | shingouz: i haven't had any caffeine. i don't drink anything with caffeine in it usually. dr pepper now and again, but thats about it |
| 01:35.31 | kelan | no sugar to speak of today either |
| 01:35.39 | cire | is it possible to make ksirc open a channel whenI click on an irc:// link in opera? I tried adding "irc" as protocol and "/usr/bin/ksirc" as it's program, but no channel opens... |
| 01:35.46 | shingouz | kelan: that explains the shell to X then |
| 01:35.49 | kelan | heh |
| 01:36.22 | kelan | there are such things as irc:// links? |
| 01:36.23 | shingouz | kelan: you jsut need to be careful what you suggest on this channel, you cannot imagine the amount of intelligence here |
| 01:36.24 | kelan | weird |
| 01:36.54 | kelan | shingouz: hopefully someone who actually knows how to change their shell will know better, but maybe that is assuming too much |
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| 01:37.05 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 01:37.08 | bug_code | hi eagain |
| 01:37.11 | shingouz | kelan: you wuold not believe... |
| 01:37.16 | bug_code | again |
| 01:37.25 | kelan | shingouz: but its not even close to sunday |
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| 01:37.33 | bug_code | don't have 'nv' module in modconf |
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| 01:37.48 | shingouz | kelan: this is #debian, we have permasunday |
| 01:37.57 | dvs | bug_code: /exec -o uname -r |
| 01:38.00 | shingouz | bug_code: the kernel could be too old |
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| 01:38.30 | bug_code | to what |
| 01:38.58 | shingouz | bug_code: too old kernel -> no support for new hardware |
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| 01:39.36 | kelan | !what weekday is it |
| 01:39.37 | dpkg | kelan: wednesday |
| 01:39.50 | kelan | dpkg: lrai |
| 01:39.50 | bug_code | ok. don't have the nvidia modules in CD |
| 01:39.53 | Kobaz | anyone have a laptop with an ati x300 working with xfree |
| 01:39.54 | kelan | dpkg: liar |
| 01:39.55 | dpkg | [liar] me |
| 01:39.59 | kelan | hah |
| 01:40.14 | shingouz | !permasunday kelan |
| 01:40.16 | bug_code | do you have a solution? |
| 01:40.18 | Techman | enybody know where can a find taskbar v2 .deb for debian sid? |
| 01:40.32 | kelan | !sd |
| 01:40.32 | dpkg | It's always Sunday in #debian!!! |
| 01:40.39 | dvs | bug_code: Not until you run "/exec -o uname -r" in your chat window |
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| 01:40.57 | orchid | dvs he told us, 2.2 |
| 01:41.00 | shingouz | bug_code: install sarge, when you begin do not start with install desktop and all or you will have the same problem |
| 01:41.03 | bug_code | I write |
| 01:41.05 | kelan | Techman: what is taskbar v2? |
| 01:41.11 | shingouz | bug_code: can you get into the system at all? |
| 01:41.19 | bug_code | sarge..where I donwload it |
| 01:41.22 | KmD | how do i install something that says 'find the directory and type XXXXXXXXX' |
| 01:41.36 | dvs | orchid: Not after I logged on |
| 01:41.36 | KmD | what is the directory |
| 01:41.42 | dondelelcaro | KmD: uh... could you be slightly less vague? |
| 01:41.48 | shingouz | bug_code: is the system useable from the console? |
| 01:41.52 | KmD | ok sorry my mistake |
| 01:42.01 | dvs | !d-i bug_code |
| 01:42.02 | dpkg | bug_code, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:42.05 | KmD | i downloaded a program from a website for linux |
| 01:42.08 | bug_code | ok..from the linux, don't? |
| 01:42.09 | kelan | KmD: maybe the directory where you unpacked it? |
| 01:42.20 | bug_code | is a text-mode? |
| 01:42.20 | KmD | yes..but what is that? |
| 01:42.23 | KmD | how do i find out |
| 01:42.28 | shingouz | bug_code: yes. in text mode |
| 01:42.32 | KmD | is it just the list of like |
| 01:42.38 | kelan | KmD: where did you save it? |
| 01:42.38 | tcsetattr | u |
| 01:42.39 | KmD | home/.../.../ |
| 01:42.40 | bug_code | ok. I'll there. |
| 01:42.44 | Techman | kelan taskbar v2 http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=19926 |
| 01:42.46 | tcsetattr | oops. |
| 01:42.47 | bug_code | tanks |
| 01:42.53 | KmD | in the personal folder |
| 01:42.55 | shingouz | bug_code: what is your native language? |
| 01:42.57 | shingouz | damn |
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| 01:43.37 | u9 | karsten: i tried that authenticate flag too, it didn't do anything |
| 01:43.39 | Techman | kelan the link is broken and i want to know if theres another way i can get it |
| 01:43.44 | KmD | im a newbie |
| 01:43.46 | u9 | im thinking its something else wrong, maybe with the package |
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| 01:43.54 | u9 | because i copied a sudo config off another system and its not working properlyt |
| 01:43.55 | KmD | sry if i am bugging u |
| 01:44.04 | dondelelcaro | KmD: yes, that much is obvious. What exactly are you trying to do? What relationship does this have to Debian? |
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| 01:44.33 | KmD | its an installation issue |
| 01:44.49 | KmD | i dunno where else to go |
| 01:44.56 | dondelelcaro | KmD: start from the beginning. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 01:45.13 | KmD | ok www.isc.ro has an agent for playing scrabble online |
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| 01:45.32 | cire | I don't know whether there is sth like an irc:// link, but in Windows mirc is automatically assigned to this. I am trying to use those links (irc://server/channel) with ksirc. Ksirc has an --channel and --server option, but does not accept the format as it is used by the homepages.I described. |
| 01:45.33 | lkthomas | hey all |
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| 01:45.42 | KmD | dondlelcaro they have a linux version |
| 01:45.51 | revenger | hmm any idea how I can delete files starting with a -? |
| 01:45.53 | lkthomas | anyone try mator hdd before ? |
| 01:45.58 | Techman | kelan do you red me? |
| 01:46.01 | u9 | revenger: rm ./-file |
| 01:46.01 | revenger | (with a leading minus) |
| 01:46.02 | KmD | i downloaded it |
| 01:46.07 | dvs | revenger: Quoting it doesn't work? |
| 01:46.09 | dondelelcaro | revenger: rm -- -foofile |
| 01:46.11 | KmD | and i was supposed to unzip it |
| 01:46.13 | ethics | if i have updated to the alsa-source version of alsa from apt and would like to go higher again can i do anything to use module-assistant? ie can i extract the new source over the ould alsasource directory and use the same debian rules would you think? |
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| 01:46.14 | revenger | u9: ah thanks! |
| 01:46.35 | NewpZ | hi when i run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and i get par to enter in the vidcard memory, what should i enter in cause my card has 256mb |
| 01:46.37 | KmD | # |
| 01:46.37 | KmD | # To run the program navigate to the wordbiz directory and type java -jar wordbiz.jar |
| 01:46.38 | revenger | dondelelcaro: also thanks didn't know about that |
| 01:46.44 | kelan | Techman: googling for "taskbar v2 debian" gives some useful looking answers |
| 01:46.54 | evand | NewpZ: you can't leave it blank? |
| 01:46.59 | dvs | ethics: I used to use the raw alsa drivers package and it seemed to work fine |
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| 01:47.04 | dondelelcaro | revenger: -- is the standard method to tell a program that uses gnu get_opt that everything that follows isn't an option |
| 01:47.06 | NewpZ | x is detecting it as 56mb |
| 01:47.21 | Techman | kelan i did that all ready |
| 01:47.24 | Techman | :( |
| 01:47.55 | kelan | Techman: well this link looks interesting in particular: http://www.uni-weimar.de/~wolff3/index_taskbar.html |
| 01:48.01 | evand | NewpZ: oh. weird. tried entering sth like "256m"? |
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| 01:48.11 | ethics | dvs: hmm ok ill just do that and remove the m-a version 8) dam hda-intel modules |
| 01:48.20 | Techman | let see |
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| 01:48.43 | dvs | ethics: I just had to use the "--with-kernel" option to point to where the header files were |
| 01:48.50 | xtension | im having an issue here with .zip files |
| 01:48.59 | NewpZ | evand: complains about the m |
| 01:49.06 | kelan | xtension: please try to be less vague |
| 01:49.08 | xtension | : unknown suffix -- ignored |
| 01:49.09 | NewpZ | so i need like 256000? |
| 01:49.16 | ethics | dvs: i just need to do driver or do i need all the cvs |
| 01:49.22 | xtension | gzip doesnt want to unzip the zip |
| 01:49.26 | dvs | ethics: Just the drivers. |
| 01:49.35 | spdf | NewpZ, 256 * 1024 |
| 01:49.38 | kelan | xtension: is the extension '.zip'? |
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| 01:49.44 | shingouz | xtension: gzip doesnt do it. install unzip |
| 01:49.57 | evand | NewpZ: I'd guess just 256 |
| 01:49.58 | xtension | shingouz thanks |
| 01:50.18 | ethics | dvs : cool another task for the evening 8) |
| 01:50.26 | dilku | I have this shit problem of palying audio on my sarge box ? |
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| 01:50.30 | zOap | can you recommend a good image viewer? Need to be able to scroll, zoom... |
| 01:50.45 | xtension | suppose its some winblows compatabilty issue |
| 01:50.52 | spdf | NewpZ, You don't really have to tell it though, it allocates what it needs.. |
| 01:51.09 | dvs | ethics: ;-) |
| 01:51.14 | shingouz | dilku: any chance to get more information? |
| 01:51.20 | delysid25 | i have a question....would it be relatively painless to leave my apt sources pointing to testing and go from sarge to etch? |
| 01:51.34 | dilku | is there a audio daemon that bypass the permissions of audio group ? |
| 01:51.34 | evand | delysid25: likely yes |
| 01:51.40 | ethics | next stupid question: if im looking to stream some video/av with a windows box to a linux box is there a "best" stram type to use? |
| 01:51.41 | dvs | delysid25: yes |
| 01:51.47 | evand | delysid25: that's how I got to sarge :) |
| 01:51.58 | revenger | is there a way to use echo to print to stderr? |
| 01:52.09 | kelan | zOap: i use qiv, but xli is also popular, i believe |
| 01:52.15 | ethics | delysid25, when sarge goes stable etch becomes tesating....therefore if you want sarge change testing to sarge in source...else you will move to etch |
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| 01:52.16 | xtension | ethics do it the other way round |
| 01:52.20 | delysid25 | evand> and it was relatively painless? i am used to upgrades on rpm distros and that never seems to work right |
| 01:52.36 | xtension | ethics im sure they know a lot better than me at #winblows |
| 01:52.42 | evand | delysid25: didn't even blink |
| 01:52.43 | zOap | kelan, thanks:) |
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| 01:52.59 | delysid25 | evand> cool, thanks!!! |
| 01:53.02 | evand | delysid25: they slowly update everything in testing anyway... it's just a question of when to take a snapshot and of what |
| 01:53.03 | jetscreamer | how do i add a local ip address to eth0 |
| 01:53.08 | xtension | ethics now i understand why you browse irc at night |
| 01:53.10 | dilku | shingouz, basically I want to play audio without beening in the audio group . |
| 01:53.21 | evand | delysid25: this is why I prefer debian to rh and such :) |
| 01:53.24 | jetscreamer | sudo |
| 01:53.25 | dilku | *beeing |
| 01:53.30 | shingouz | dilku: and why would you like to do that |
| 01:53.34 | jetscreamer | being |
| 01:53.54 | shingouz | dilku: i am not aware of such a thing |
| 01:53.56 | kelan | dilku: are you not allowed to play audio and are looking to bypass the permissions you've been given? |
| 01:54.01 | jetscreamer | sudo |
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| 01:54.43 | ethics | xtension, hehe i have home systems and work systems...the work systems dont change but i research during the day for my nightime missions hehe....works not a busy environment... |
| 01:54.50 | delysid25 | evand> that is why i switched |
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| 01:55.10 | dvs | exit |
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| 01:55.38 | jetscreamer | how do i add aNOTHER ip address to eth0 |
| 01:55.45 | delysid25 | ran fedora core before and when i upgraded from 2 to 3....i was tired of the upgrades breaking and i knew debian is very stable |
| 01:56.00 | jetscreamer | just put another stanza? |
| 01:56.12 | delysid25 | 2 to 3 broke i mean |
| 01:56.17 | xtension | jetscreamer ip add right ? |
| 01:56.27 | ethics | xtension, i would but im caught on a driver version issue atm so i was hoping to use the windows apps for the shorterm.... |
| 01:56.28 | dilku | shingouz, If i can find a daemon which listen on a port and play audio as root. ? |
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| 01:56.45 | xtension | ethics are you being offensive again ? |
| 01:56.48 | jetscreamer | i meant editing /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:56.51 | kelan | dilku: why don't you just add yourself to the audio group? |
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| 01:56.57 | shingouz | dilku: i do not know about such software. why the hell do you want to do that in the first place |
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| 01:57.07 | ethics | delysid25, fc2 kernels are all a bit broken anyways there seems to be some fc1 & 3 realeases only of stuff |
| 01:57.17 | dilku | kelan, I have 1000s of users .. |
| 01:57.20 | mhall | How do I make GDB quit buffering and pausing its output. |
| 01:57.26 | jetscreamer | ah man unpack a fedora kernel |
| 01:57.30 | dilku | thay all want to play audio |
| 01:57.32 | mhall | It is making it impossible for me to debug my god damn program. |
| 01:57.34 | jetscreamer | be the patch |
| 01:57.46 | ethics | xtension, no im never offensive by intent. |
| 01:57.51 | delysid25 | i know....i just thought i would see if it would work....i told myself if the fedora upgrade broke my system then i would go to debian |
| 01:58.03 | delysid25 | been on debian ever since |
| 01:58.11 | shingouz | dilku: a script that adds the users to audio. the next time they show up they can play sounds |
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| 01:58.37 | Langly | hmm no matter what i get that whole cant install lilo due to that 1023 sector thing |
| 01:58.47 | Langly | even with just a 5 meg boot partition |
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| 01:58.59 | xtension | ethics forget this whole windowz stuff , please |
| 01:59.01 | dilku | shingouz, I was q about it .. |
| 01:59.03 | Langly | systems got scsi drives, not ide, and such, being damn annoying |
| 01:59.08 | spdf | Langly, 5mb at the beginning of the drive? |
| 01:59.09 | xtension | ethics stop mentioning it |
| 01:59.14 | Langly | yes |
| 01:59.45 | shingouz | Langly: scsi is a piece of cake, i hate ide. i guess you have to have some oddities in the lilo.config if it doesn't install |
| 01:59.56 | Langly | thing is with the rescue and root floppy, they dont accept the live cd for an install, nore do they see my network card |
| 02:00.02 | sparr_ | what is Bill Allombert's nick? |
| 02:00.16 | shingouz | Langly: what card is it? |
| 02:00.22 | Langly | I forget off hand |
| 02:00.34 | Langly | its been ages from when I last looked at it |
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| 02:00.57 | shingouz | Langly: you may have to configure the card manually before you can use it to install the system |
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| 02:01.22 | SDFH_Linux | what kde and gnome is stable using? |
| 02:01.27 | SDFH_Linux | the on they just released? |
| 02:01.28 | Langly | yeah, from the root disk though, If i go to the shell, can i fire up the live cd install |
| 02:01.43 | SDFH_Linux | 3.0 r6 |
| 02:01.45 | SDFH_Linux | ? |
| 02:01.52 | shingouz | Langly: there is no such thing as a live cd on debian |
| 02:01.58 | ethics | xtension, im working on both together in a network...i can stop mentioning them when they are involved in what im doing....im just asking for advice if anyone has any. |
| 02:02.09 | Langly | hmm I think ive got my cd's messed up then |
| 02:02.10 | Langly | heh |
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| 02:02.23 | cartel_ | shingouz: there is knoppix... |
| 02:02.24 | Langly | too many linux distros heh |
| 02:02.26 | shingouz | Langly: the netinstall floppies? you did get the network driver floppy too? |
| 02:02.33 | Langly | It is a knoppix cd |
| 02:02.34 | shingouz | cartel_: that does not install debian |
| 02:02.42 | cartel_ | shingouz: it can (debootstrap) |
| 02:02.53 | shingouz | cartel_: that is not noob friendly |
| 02:03.05 | cartel_ | neither is this channel :p |
| 02:03.10 | kelan | hah |
| 02:03.16 | Langly | Ill go check which network card it is, and see which driver disk covers it |
| 02:03.18 | jetscreamer | ahhh auto eth0 eth0:1 |
| 02:03.20 | shingouz | cartel_: what makes you think that?`;) |
| 02:03.25 | jetscreamer | GEE THANKS GUYS |
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| 02:03.29 | zOap | Aah, knoppix... Makes me think how much I hate kde... :) |
| 02:03.35 | shingouz | jetscreamer: yw :p |
| 02:03.43 | cartel_ | z0ap: knoppix is a poor kde-centric distro :p |
| 02:03.57 | cartel_ | z0ap: a nice debian derived knoppix live cd is Kubuntu Live |
| 02:04.17 | zOap | cartel_, I thought kubuntu was a ubuntu deriative? |
| 02:04.42 | jason_ | it is |
| 02:04.49 | SDFH_Linux | what kde and gnome is stable using on woody r6? |
| 02:04.50 | cartel_ | z0ap: not derivative even, just different default packages |
| 02:04.50 | jetscreamer | a nicer one is #kanotix |
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| 02:04.54 | Kobaz | anyone have a laptop with an ati x300 working with xfree |
| 02:04.57 | jetscreamer | don't do woody |
| 02:05.04 | cartel_ | z0ap: but ubuntu is sid derived |
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| 02:05.09 | kelan | if i wanted to stylistically represent lumber, what would be the best way? a stack of logs, a stack of cut boards, a few pine trees standing next to each other? |
| 02:05.10 | SDFH_Linux | what is it using though? |
| 02:05.13 | kelan | uh... in debian |
| 02:05.15 | zOap | ooh, well, I don't like ubuntu either... |
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| 02:05.25 | kelan | that makes the question on topic |
| 02:05.26 | jason_ | you can install the kubuntu package in ubuntu. Kubuntu just installs KDE 3.4 as the default window manager |
| 02:05.27 | jetscreamer | lumber? how about a few 2x4's |
| 02:05.28 | cartel_ | z0ap: heh |
| 02:05.46 | cartel_ | z0ap: ubuntu has wonderful things like this |
| 02:05.46 | streuner_ | Kobaz: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 02:05.47 | cartel_ | 0 upgraded, 766 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 02:05.47 | jetscreamer | unless you mean logs |
| 02:05.47 | cartel_ | Need to get 453MB of archives. |
| 02:05.47 | cartel_ | After unpacking 1513MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 02:05.47 | zOap | jason_, with xorg? |
| 02:05.51 | jason_ | yes |
| 02:05.56 | jetscreamer | get em |
| 02:05.57 | Langly | Now to try and few good floppies |
| 02:06.00 | al3xantos | ello pplz |
| 02:06.14 | zOap | My old lappy hates xorg-.... |
| 02:06.16 | Langly | I dont think ive got more than 3 |
| 02:06.18 | jason_ | i installed ubuntu and then installed the kubuntu-desktop package....it just makes it easier for beginners (though i'm using debian testing now) |
| 02:06.25 | Kobaz | streamer: yeah i checked that out before |
| 02:06.26 | Langly | you know whats very very painly |
| 02:06.29 | Langly | ful |
| 02:06.41 | al3xantos | does anyonw here knows how to create a klik recipe? |
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| 02:07.01 | Kerr | Does anyone know of a buletinboard that uses a .boardname dir in the user who's running it's home dir, and a centalised install? Or anything of the sort? Phpbb is a pain. |
| 02:07.07 | Langly | Installing windows 98 on a laptop that doesnt have a cd-rom by shuttling the files over on 1.68 formatted floppies by hand from a machine with a cd-rom |
| 02:07.09 | zOap | jason_, well, me too. I tried all kinds of distros, before I realized that there is nothing as good as the original |
| 02:07.11 | streuner_ | jason_: KDE makes it by default easier for beginners |
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| 02:07.27 | jason_ | streuner, heh, true |
| 02:07.32 | jetscreamer | boot pxe |
| 02:07.38 | shingouz | Langly: why not use a nullmodem ;) |
| 02:07.44 | al3xantos | guys... |
| 02:07.47 | streuner_ | Kobaz: what model (laptop) do you have? |
| 02:07.48 | jonatano | hello guys |
| 02:07.50 | beno | hi |
| 02:07.56 | zOap | streuner, I don't agree. Gnome is not as messy as kde, allthough kde has a more windows controlpanel....' |
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| 02:08.04 | jason_ | why does ubuntu use sid as their base? testing has already been through ...testing |
| 02:08.07 | al3xantos | does anyone here knows how to create a klik recipe? |
| 02:08.11 | jonatano | any one could help me with a networking problem? |
| 02:08.18 | Langly | shingouz been there done that, but it wasnt wanting to work in that case for some odd reason |
| 02:08.21 | al3xantos | can you please help me |
| 02:08.23 | streuner_ | hm |
| 02:08.23 | shingouz | al3xantos: we heard you the first time |
| 02:08.31 | jason_ | jonatano, you should be more specific |
| 02:08.38 | al3xantos | ooppppppppssssssss sori |
| 02:08.41 | beno | alo |
| 02:08.42 | SDFH_Linux | what kde and gnome is stable using on woody r6? |
| 02:08.45 | jonatano | sure |
| 02:08.47 | kelan | i love this channel:) |
| 02:08.48 | beno | alo |
| 02:08.48 | Kerr | I still prefer icewm over pretty much anything. |
| 02:08.48 | xtension | ola beno |
| 02:08.56 | streuner_ | SDFH_Linux: use d-i |
| 02:08.59 | shingouz | kelan: so do i :) |
| 02:08.59 | jonatano | I installed sarge on a server |
| 02:09.02 | beno | ola jg |
| 02:09.02 | zOap | Gnome 2.2, isnt it? |
| 02:09.08 | al3xantos | shingouz can you teach me? |
| 02:09.09 | streuner_ | !d-i SDFH |
| 02:09.10 | dpkg | SDFH, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 02:09.16 | kelan | shingouz: oooopppppssss |
| 02:09.19 | beno | ola |
| 02:09.19 | streuner_ | !d-i SDFH_Linux |
| 02:09.20 | dpkg | SDFH_Linux, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 02:09.23 | xtension | ola la beno |
| 02:09.35 | shingouz | al3xantos: i have no idea what you want to do |
| 02:09.52 | shingouz | kelan: i have a few nice larts ;) |
| 02:09.55 | asg | SDFH_Linux: gnome (1.4), kde (2.2) |
| 02:09.56 | jason_ | jonatano, you installed sarge on a server and...? |
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| 02:10.04 | al3xantos | i want to install flash mx on knoppix |
| 02:10.13 | streuner_ | al3xantos: |
| 02:10.14 | al3xantos | i want to use flash mx on knoppix |
| 02:10.14 | ethics | jason_, sid & etch are going to be more desktoppy than say sarge...sarge is more a replacement server distro with some desktop stuff....its not cutting edge desktop...whereas unbuntu is |
| 02:10.16 | shingouz | al3xantos: #knoppix in tha tcase |
| 02:10.19 | jason_ | al3xantos, ask in #knoppix |
| 02:10.24 | streuner_ | al3xantos: #knoppix |
| 02:10.31 | al3xantos | okies |
| 02:10.35 | streuner_ | damn, this new keyboard sucks |
| 02:10.35 | al3xantos | sorry |
| 02:10.36 | zOap | al3xantos, you don't have to repeat yourself |
| 02:10.45 | ethics | jason_ but the stability also changes |
| 02:10.51 | jason_ | ethics, so we're going to see more updated desktop packages in testing after sarge is released? |
| 02:10.51 | nichos | ethics how are you burning these DVd files, im triyng to use k3b, but it wants a video_ts, audio_ts files |
| 02:10.59 | al3xantos | ok |
| 02:11.02 | jonatano | and when I connect it to my green lan on my router it connects fine to the internet, I'm able to pull up pages with links and all but when I connect it on the DMZ with the proper configs, no luck. |
| 02:11.15 | streuner_ | jason_: no |
| 02:11.19 | Kerr | <streuner's_keyboard> damn, this new geek sucks |
| 02:11.22 | Kerr | O.o |
| 02:11.23 | xtension | does cdrecord also burn dvd's |
| 02:11.27 | jason_ | but testing will become etch, right? |
| 02:11.31 | jonatano | This meens that I'm not even able to run apt-get because nothing resolvs... |
| 02:11.32 | al3xantos | i was hoping i could switch to debian afterwards |
| 02:11.36 | streuner_ | jason_: yep |
| 02:11.41 | streuner_ | !etch |
| 02:11.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ : <releases> |
| 02:11.47 | shingouz | al3xantos: install debian straght off the bat |
| 02:11.52 | ethics | jason_, etch will be gaining xorg etc at some stage is the common expectation amongs other things.. |
| 02:11.56 | asg | al3xantos: if you want debian, install debian (/msg dpkg d-i) |
| 02:12.06 | zOap | xtension, what do you think? try it |
| 02:12.11 | streuner_ | jason_: my bad, i thought you are talking about sarge... |
| 02:12.12 | jason_ | streuner, so, what were you saying no too? |
| 02:12.17 | jason_ | oh, ok |
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| 02:12.25 | xtension | zOap i think u dont know |
| 02:12.35 | xtension | zOap i think u are a clicker |
| 02:12.35 | al3xantos | i'm new to this stuff but im willing to learn... |
| 02:12.36 | jason_ | i didn't realize etch was going to be more desktoppy...the vancouver proposal should also lower release times to 12-18 months |
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| 02:12.41 | Kerr | if you want debian, install windows me; and suffer it until you can ask smart questions :-P |
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| 02:12.45 | ethics | nichos: to be honest i burn using nero/windows. i havent even tried via linux as i have xbox stuff on windows.. |
| 02:12.47 | asg | al3xantos: /msg dpkg d-i, /msg dpkg ig |
| 02:12.52 | timt | AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library ?? anyone ? |
| 02:13.04 | zOap | xtension, I don't care what you think that I am. That is not the issue here |
| 02:13.10 | asg | !wayttd timt |
| 02:13.11 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, timt? |
| 02:13.20 | xtension | zOap is that a yes ? |
| 02:13.24 | nichos | ethics when you use acid, what is the output file? an avi? i need avi->VOB,IFO |
| 02:13.28 | ec_ | i have tried out the xorg packages from http://helion.xcyb.org/debian-xcyborg |
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| 02:13.37 | timt | im trying to do make for mtr source. |
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| 02:13.58 | zOap | xtension, it means that you should find the documentation regarding cdrecord |
| 02:14.07 | shingouz | !vaguesmite timt |
| 02:14.09 | zOap | xtension, or just try it |
| 02:14.13 | ethics | nichos: run past me what your actually trying to do .... |
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| 02:14.21 | xtension | zOap eheh |
| 02:14.26 | asg | timt: and what is mtr? |
| 02:14.30 | jason_ | ethics, if debian issued security updates for testing it could be a great desktop distro. I found testing to be more reliable than ubuntu- at least when trying to setup a mythtv backend/frontend |
| 02:14.39 | nichos | ethics burn an avi (divx) to a standalone player dvd |
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| 02:14.46 | madclicker | is there a smb network browser in KDE? |
| 02:14.48 | jason_ | esd causes all sorts of problems |
| 02:14.52 | xtension | zOap go back to bed |
| 02:14.56 | timt | traceroute type utility |
| 02:14.56 | jason_ | madclicker, yes. do smb:// in konqueror |
| 02:15.14 | pureone | konquorer and ping :P |
| 02:15.14 | asg | timt: apt-get install mtr |
| 02:15.14 | madclicker | jason: roger |
| 02:15.14 | jason_ | madclicker, and you can do scp/sftp as well with fish:// |
| 02:15.15 | ethics | jason_ testing has security atm but thats part of freeze |
| 02:15.25 | timt | asg: no such package |
| 02:15.25 | kelan | timt: does the mtr package not work? |
| 02:15.31 | asg | timt: are you using woody? |
| 02:15.33 | kelan | hmm |
| 02:15.39 | asg | !info mtr woody |
| 02:15.42 | dpkg | mtr: (Full screen ncurses and X11 traceroute tool), section net, is extra. Version: 0.48-1 (woody), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 02:15.47 | jason_ | ethics, i haven't seen any security packages for testing yet...they all seem to be propogating through the regular channels |
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| 02:15.58 | ethics | nichos: divx isnt vob.....the player probably expects a .avi or a .mpg vob = mpeg2 |
| 02:16.04 | asg | !info mtr sarge |
| 02:16.18 | dpkg | mtr: (Full screen ncurses and X11 traceroute tool), section net, is extra. Version: 0.67-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 02:16.18 | jason_ | ethics, security support seems to be the big reason a lot of desktop users moved to ubuntu |
| 02:16.27 | streuner_ | jason_: no |
| 02:16.28 | asg | timt: then you aren't using debian |
| 02:16.32 | SDFH_Linux | i got samba on my debian boxes but cannot reach the shares anyone help? |
| 02:16.34 | timt | asg: yeah im using woody |
| 02:16.37 | kelan | according to packages.debian.org, mtr is in all three distros |
| 02:16.38 | jason_ | ethics, though the security support is only on a small subsection of packages |
| 02:16.39 | asg | timt: it's in woody, sarge, and sid |
| 02:16.40 | dsherret | how can I allow apt-get to get packages still in beta? (what do I edit in the sources.list?) |
| 02:16.40 | nichos | ethics i have k3b open here, and it will burn a video DVD, but i need to supply it with a vob file - thats what im trying to convert to |
| 02:16.47 | streuner_ | jason_: what the hell you talking about? |
| 02:16.49 | timt | I am using debian |
| 02:17.30 | ethics | nichos: if you want to make a DVD format rather than a divx compatable dvd player...then you will need to move it back to mpeg 2 |
| 02:17.40 | shingouz | timt: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 02:17.40 | jason_ | streuner, no? what are you talking about? |
| 02:17.45 | streuner_ | jason_: that isnt true either |
| 02:17.47 | Kobaz | streamer: most people with the laptop that i have, have the intel integrated graphics and not the ati x300 |
| 02:17.47 | zOap | dsherret, by adding sid and testing to sources.list |
| 02:17.51 | asg | timt: 22:16 < dpkg> mtr: (Full screen ncurses and X11 traceroute tool), section net, is extra. Version: 0.48-1 (woody), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 02:17.51 | asg | timt: it's there |
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| 02:18.07 | streuner_ | jason_: 1) if security fixes needed they are in security.d.o |
| 02:18.12 | kelan | who likes Wild Wild West by Will Smith! give it up! |
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| 02:18.24 | asg | kelan: it was bland |
| 02:18.24 | nichos | ethics i believe ive done this, i have an avi that has gone to mpg via this 'tovid' application, i just dont know how to burn it |
| 02:18.34 | kelan | hmm |
| 02:18.39 | ethics | nichos so that means you run acid to rip it to divx then kenc15 to push it back to mpeg2.....itll probably ballon from 50 mb to 200mb or something un mpeg2 rather than 4 |
| 02:18.51 | kelan | asg: Men in Black? |
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| 02:19.03 | streuner_ | Kobaz: that didn't answer my question |
| 02:19.03 | asg | kelan: better |
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| 02:19.07 | kelan | asg: i mean the songs, not the movies:) |
| 02:19.09 | SDFH_Linux | i got samba on my debian boxes but cannot reach the shares anyone help? |
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| 02:19.13 | nichos | ethics no, this isnt off of a DVD originally, it is downloaded |
| 02:19.14 | zOap | dsherret, but be aware, that would not give you the latest betas, only if it's ben deb packed |
| 02:19.17 | timt | shingouz: 3.0 |
| 02:19.24 | asg | kelan: oh, not bad but not my type of music. |
| 02:19.42 | asg | timt: what does 'apt-cache policy mtr' print? |
| 02:19.46 | streuner_ | jason_: 2) most newbies tend to install distros with newer kernel or/and newer DM. |
| 02:19.46 | dsherret | zOap, thanks a lot :) |
| 02:19.56 | zOap | dsherret, you may have to check up on the authors websites for source files or deb packages |
| 02:19.58 | jason_ | streuner, were you referring to my ubuntu comment or the comment about security updates in testing? |
| 02:19.59 | jason_ | check out ubuntu's main. it's quite small. |
| 02:20.03 | jason_ | most of debian's 16,000 packages are in universe which don't get official security support |
| 02:20.06 | jason_ | that includes some not so obscure packages like mysql-4.1, openvpn etc. |
| 02:20.11 | asg | dsherret: be careful, zOap's advice can easily render your system useless (/msg dpkg bobbitt, /msg dpkg sid faq) |
| 02:20.11 | timt | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.11 | timt | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.12 | timt | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.32 | zOap | asg, yeah, but he wanted the beta's didnt he?:) |
| 02:20.36 | streuner_ | jason_: if you refering to other distros you are OT |
| 02:21.03 | nbhoodrat | anyone know of a good website for help configuring fstab? |
| 02:21.06 | Kobaz | anyone happen to have a laptop with an ati x300 working with xfree or xorg |
| 02:21.17 | stew | timt: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list into #flood |
| 02:21.17 | nbhoodrat | google turns up nothing good. |
| 02:21.20 | evand | !polls |
| 02:21.20 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 02:21.24 | shingouz | it is anyone-day today |
| 02:21.25 | xtension | !tell Kobaz about polls |
| 02:21.28 | stew | nbhoodrat: how about man 5 fstab |
| 02:21.34 | streuner_ | Kobaz: thats a theoretic question still |
| 02:21.37 | Kobaz | its not a poll |
| 02:21.40 | ec_ | is there an init script or something that sets up ssh keys? |
| 02:21.41 | asg | timt: does us a favor and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in our paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 02:21.42 | streuner_ | it is |
| 02:21.44 | Kobaz | no it isnt |
| 02:21.47 | xtension | read Kobaz |
| 02:21.48 | streuner_ | Kobaz: /topic |
| 02:21.50 | dsherret | asg: thanks also |
| 02:21.50 | Kobaz | i know |
| 02:22.02 | nbhoodrat | man 5? |
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| 02:22.09 | Kobaz | someone who has gotten it to work would most likely be able to help |
| 02:22.20 | evand | Kobaz: doesn't make it not a poll |
| 02:22.25 | ethics | nichos: then run kmenc15 to swap it from divx back to mpeg2/vob then use k3b to burn it....acid is more a dvd to compressed for storage dvd...i use dvdbackup to copy them in the same format....kmenc to swap formats back and for on exisitng files |
| 02:22.27 | delysid25 | well, thanks all....time for bed |
| 02:22.34 | streuner_ | Kobaz: if you telling us what model (laptop) you have we are might able. |
| 02:22.34 | shingouz | Kobaz: and your style of asking makes it most likely that you will not get an answer |
| 02:22.44 | Kobaz | dell 6000, but that doesnt really matter |
| 02:22.46 | asg | Kobaz: try tuxmobile.org (see if anyone there has information) |
| 02:22.53 | Kobaz | asg: k |
| 02:23.12 | shingouz | Kobaz: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 02:23.31 | Kobaz | streuner: i'm being as general as possible, becuase if i say if somsone has a dell 6000 laptop and all that other stuff i'm narrowing down the people who would reply |
| 02:23.43 | danwolf | I have been running debian fine for months now, but all of the sudden now, there are problems running gdm |
| 02:23.48 | asg | Kobaz: latitude d600? |
| 02:23.53 | Kobaz | inspiron 6000 |
| 02:23.54 | danwolf | it doesnt startup and it errors out |
| 02:23.55 | streuner_ | Kobaz: i asked you |
| 02:23.56 | xtension | Kobaz american ? |
| 02:24.03 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 02:24.10 | evand | Kobaz: the correct form is to *describe the problem* not the hardware |
| 02:24.10 | Kobaz | streuner_: asked me what |
| 02:24.12 | danwolf | isnt there a command to configure XF86? |
| 02:24.14 | asg | Kobaz: ah, okay. |
| 02:24.19 | streuner_ | Kobaz: what model you have? |
| 02:24.22 | asg | danwolf: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:24.27 | danwolf | thanks |
| 02:24.27 | Kobaz | 6000d |
| 02:24.30 | Kobaz | with the ati x300 |
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| 02:24.40 | ethics | jason_: actually i think more people use others for laptops and specific hardware support.....security on unbuntu is about the same as testing here i think personally |
| 02:24.54 | madclicker | jason_: doesn't do jack |
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| 02:25.08 | Kobaz | evand: 99% of the time, i ask my questions like that and if someone is here who has experience with the hardware they reply, it works very well |
| 02:25.12 | ethics | jason_ i havent really spent a great deal of time in ubuntu/knopix/kanotix tho |
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| 02:25.25 | xtension | ethics you think , its better to know |
| 02:25.32 | madclicker | jason_: i have kdenetwork installed but smb://server times out |
| 02:26.00 | Kobaz | evand: so I do what works best |
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| 02:26.18 | Kobaz | evand: and have been for some time, and now everyone is complaining about my question style all of a suddon, what gives |
| 02:26.22 | evand | Kobaz: but that wasn't the first time you'd asked, it specifically is against the topic / etiquette policies, and we were asking you to stop |
| 02:26.32 | danwolf | hmm asg it says xserver-xfree86 is broken or not fully installed |
| 02:26.41 | asg | danwolf: apt-get -f install |
| 02:26.43 | danwolf | something musta messed up in my last upgrade |
| 02:26.45 | danwolf | ok |
| 02:26.48 | evand | Kobaz: what gives is mostly it's easier to ignore it, until you start repeating |
| 02:26.48 | shingouz | Kobaz: if you had asked a real question to begin with you might have the answer already, this time you sit here bitching about how you usually ask questions. |
| 02:26.51 | Kobaz | evand: there nothing in the rules about asking the same question after a while of noone replying and new people joining |
| 02:27.11 | stew | oh just drop it |
| 02:27.14 | Kobaz | shingouz: i did ask a question |
| 02:27.15 | nbhoodrat | well if its off topic for this room, why dont you tell him about some place he might actuall be welcomed to ask a question? |
| 02:27.17 | asg | Kobaz: just ignore them |
| 02:27.22 | ethics | xtension: troll someone else will ya: how can i *KNOW* why every other person who moved to unbuntu its not like i can read mines accross the world but if you KNOW by all means inform us... |
| 02:27.24 | Kobaz | stew,asg: heh, yeah i know |
| 02:27.40 | xtension | ethics who cares about your ubuntu |
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| 02:28.22 | abofaisal | Is anyone using a D-Link DWL-122 USB NIC with Debian? Just curious about how well it is supported out of the box. |
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| 02:28.30 | abofaisal | I'd be using it with Debian PPC |
| 02:28.42 | shingouz | abofaisal: and the real question is? |
| 02:28.47 | zOap | Kobaz, if you have ubuntu, it's generally better to ask at #ubuntu...' |
| 02:28.54 | abofaisal | that is the reason question |
| 02:28.58 | abofaisal | reason=real |
| 02:29.02 | drag_sid | abofaisal: do you know the chipset? |
| 02:29.06 | evand | abofaisal: might try linuxhardware.org |
| 02:29.08 | abofaisal | yeah |
| 02:29.23 | drag_sid | what is the chipset? |
| 02:29.29 | abofaisal | prism 2.5 |
| 02:29.40 | drag_sid | should work ok. |
| 02:29.46 | zOap | night shingouz |
| 02:29.50 | evand | 'night shingouz |
| 02:29.57 | Kobaz | zOap: i use regular debian |
| 02:30.01 | kelan | shingouz: no! |
| 02:30.06 | kelan | you'll miss the big show! |
| 02:30.30 | zOap | Kobaz, ok, then I just misread something:) it may be late, I don't know, cause my brain is asleep:) |
| 02:30.34 | shingouz | kelan: go ahead, lart all you can while i am not here :p |
| 02:30.35 | Kobaz | zOap: i just ask in here even though its a specific hardware question becasue i idle here constantly and usually get very helpful results |
| 02:30.45 | chealer | shingouz: hehe, good night |
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| 02:31.21 | Langly | could my problems have anything to do with the fact im getting "hda: IRQ probe failed (0)" |
| 02:31.41 | evand | Langly: I thought you were using scsi? |
| 02:31.47 | stupidkid | is there an application for X that can put windows on systray? |
| 02:31.49 | zOap | Kobaz, yeah, I agree. Also, the ubuntu guys can be somewhat unpleasant...not all, but there are a few. which pollutes the air... |
| 02:31.52 | Langly | I am |
| 02:32.13 | evand | Langly: it's not /dev/sda? |
| 02:32.15 | Langly | It does that for hda thru hdf on me |
| 02:32.20 | Langly | on boot |
| 02:32.27 | Langly | when the boot disk is first loading |
| 02:32.34 | Kobaz | zOap: for the most part i've thought that people were fairly friendly here, and all of a suddon i get a barrage from asking some simple questions |
| 02:32.35 | Langly | it does that a bunch for all the drives |
| 02:32.43 | evand | I think the scsi disks should be sdx, not hdx |
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| 02:33.14 | SDFH_Linux | i got samba on my debian boxes but cannot reach the shares anyone help? |
| 02:33.14 | Langly | it is after it loads |
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| 02:33.25 | zOap | Kobaz, it might have to do with the fact that it's late. we all get a bit cranky:) and... Jon Danzig is dead... |
| 02:33.25 | Langly | but during the boot sequence thats the errors it gives |
| 02:33.42 | xtension | SDFH_Linux google for samba howto |
| 02:33.50 | evand | Langly: ah, ok. no clue then, I don't boot off my scsi disks |
| 02:33.50 | asg | SDFH_Linux: which shares are you trying to reach and from where? |
| 02:34.07 | Kobaz | zOap: you wouldnt happen to have a pci express ati card with Xv working in X would you? |
| 02:34.16 | Langly | evand what do you boot off of then the brain of Al Gore |
| 02:34.37 | xtension | lol |
| 02:34.37 | zOap | Kobaz, no, I'm sorry, I stick to nvidia:) |
| 02:34.53 | evand | Langly: nah, an IDE WD drive... slightly more reliable, one might say ;) |
| 02:35.21 | Kobaz | zOap: this stuff is too new |
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| 02:35.41 | zOap | Kobaz, yeah, and it's pci... |
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| 02:37.04 | xtension | i bet soon there gonna advise ppl to actually buy more and newer hardware |
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| 02:37.11 | zOap | well, I'm turning in. I have to remove lappy from my ehrm, lap. I can't feel my toes... |
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| 02:37.39 | karsten | zOap: What? You've got a toe-eating laptop? |
| 02:38.08 | evand | it's the newest fuel cell tech... less toxic than methanol |
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| 02:38.15 | zOap | karsten, hehe, it's an old sucker, weighs in at... I dunno. too much |
| 02:38.25 | karsten | SDFH_Linux: Is networking properly configured on both your Linux and any other systems? |
| 02:38.45 | sparr_ | Is there anyone here with more than 10 items in the menu Apps/Graphics and willing to help me reproduce a bug? |
| 02:39.00 | xtension | !tell sparr_ about polls |
| 02:39.14 | asg | xtension: that isn't a poll |
| 02:39.17 | drag_sid | sparr_: in gnome? |
| 02:39.24 | sparr_ | drac: in debian :) |
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| 02:39.37 | sparr_ | drac: i believe the menu in gnome would be Debian Menu/Apps/Graphics |
| 02:39.41 | karsten | sparr_: 15 |
| 02:39.49 | drag_sid | I have ten items I guess. What is the bug? |
| 02:40.06 | karsten | sparr_: ...but running WMaker, FWIW. |
| 02:40.38 | sparr_ | If you have more than 10 items, and have both Bitmap and The Gimp, please enable hints_optimize in /etc/menu-methods/menu.h and then do update-menus, reload the menus in your WM, and tell me what happened to The Gimp |
| 02:41.18 | hoooopy | i did a minimal install of debian, i want to compile something so i apt-get install gcc, now when i try to ./configure it says that "C compiler cannot create executables" |
| 02:41.39 | asg | hoooopy: apt-get install build-essential |
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| 02:41.43 | pmiller9 | what's Debian's plan for Xorg and KDE 3.4? |
| 02:41.50 | sparr_ | hoooopy: just gcc probably isnt enough... most programs complex enough to use a configure script need all sorts of other things too. try getting 'build-essential' |
| 02:41.54 | sparr_ | what asg said |
| 02:41.58 | asg | pmiller9: after sarge releases, /topic #debian-kde |
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| 02:42.28 | chealer | hum...I think I'm going to monitor nexuiz debs :D |
| 02:42.32 | karsten | !topicsmite pw |
| 02:42.33 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon pw. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 02:42.37 | karsten | !topicsmite pmiller9 |
| 02:42.38 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon pmiller9. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 02:42.42 | karsten | Gah. |
| 02:42.46 | xtension | hoooopy ubuntu ? |
| 02:42.56 | hoooopy | what about ubuntu? |
| 02:42.59 | karsten | pmiller9: Read topic. |
| 02:43.02 | asg | xtension: no, he's asking about debian |
| 02:43.12 | hoooopy | ah, there we go |
| 02:43.14 | asg | xtension: ubuntu questions belong in #ubuntu |
| 02:43.17 | hoooopy | thanks all |
| 02:43.21 | asg | hoooopy: you're welcome |
| 02:43.30 | xtension | asg thanks ill check it out |
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| 02:44.03 | Xenguy | !topicsmite everybody |
| 02:44.04 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon everybody. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 02:44.10 | hoooopy | yay |
| 02:44.29 | asg | hoooopy: any reason to compile and not just apt-get install it? |
| 02:44.37 | hoooopy | apt-get is 1.8 |
| 02:44.45 | hoooopy | 1.8.2 is out |
| 02:44.45 | chealer | yay! :)) |
| 02:44.51 | zOap | karsten, it's not always that easy. you have to move the centre of attention maybe even several inches to see the topic. It may even be dangeroud, considering you have to blink atleast one time. You may never open your eyes again....:) |
| 02:45.00 | streuner_ | !info ruby |
| 02:45.00 | sparr_ | I use kdm to choose my wm and log in. Does kdm offer any functionality to allow me to specify certain programs to be run when I choose a certain WM? I would rather not add another layer of complexity by invoking a seperate session manager. |
| 02:45.10 | drag_sid | sparr_: what was suppose to happen? In my debian menu I can't find the gimp entry anymore.. |
| 02:45.10 | chealer | hoooopy: what do you mean? |
| 02:45.12 | asg | hoooopy: make sure to stick those builds in /usr/local |
| 02:45.12 | dpkg | ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 02:45.20 | karsten | zOap: Yes, and in your case, you've got zOap in your eyes.... |
| 02:45.24 | asg | !info ruby sarge |
| 02:45.27 | hoooopy | they are in /usr/local |
| 02:45.29 | streuner_ | hoooopy: what version of debian? |
| 02:45.30 | dpkg | ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 02:45.34 | drag_sid | sparr_: but it's in the gnome menu. running sid btw |
| 02:45.34 | zOap | karsten, and it hurts too:D |
| 02:45.36 | Langly | Anything special need to be added to the load for aha-2940's like some of them need? |
| 02:45.39 | hoooopy | im running latest snap of sarge |
| 02:45.42 | mrwill | sparr_: maybe you can do this with .xinitrc or something? |
| 02:45.45 | sparr_ | drag_sid: perfect. thats what "should" happen, given this bug. can you tell me everything on your Graphics menu, including submenu and contents? msg me if its long |
| 02:46.10 | Langly | im going to drop to a single scsi card for a bit and see if that helps |
| 02:46.12 | Langly | bbl |
| 02:46.13 | asg | hoooopy: apparently, 1.8.2 is in sarge |
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| 02:46.16 | sparr_ | drag_sid: the bug is that The Gimp (along with a few other apps) get optimized into Apps/Graphics/Bitmap... but then the entry called Bitmap overwrites the menu |
| 02:46.27 | streuner_ | hoover: so update the packages and you are fine |
| 02:46.29 | hoooopy | i apt-got it and did ruby -v, said 1.8 |
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| 02:46.58 | asg | hoooopy: -v might now show minor numbers, confirm with #ruby that ruby -v should show 1.8.2 |
| 02:47.04 | mrwill | sparr_: I think you should make a shell script that does this -- you always run the script, from .xinitrc, and it runs your other programs depending on the value of the environment variable that says what window manager you are running. |
| 02:47.06 | robyn | Hey, I have a question |
| 02:47.11 | robyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.17 | robyn | So what's Debian good for, besides as a launching point for the far superior Ubuntu? |
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| 02:47.36 | streuner_ | robyn: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 02:47.39 | asg | robyn: which disk did you stick in? |
| 02:47.45 | mrwill | robyn: making a channel for you to come and annoy? |
| 02:47.51 | K_Dallas | robyn, you are so lovely and logical |
| 02:47.52 | chealer | robyn: it's good to let cluebies troll its channel |
| 02:48.02 | zOap | robyn, did you check that the disk didn't have any errors? |
| 02:48.02 | chealer | mrwill: amen |
| 02:48.24 | Xenguy | robyn: oh fuck you all to hell you whiner! |
| 02:48.27 | evand | don't the trolls ever get subtler? they get kinda boring.... |
| 02:48.32 | hoooopy | wow you guys are fanning the flames by giving this kiddy attention |
| 02:48.38 | sparr_ | mrwill: so tempting, but so hacky |
| 02:48.39 | SDFH_Linux | i got samba on my debian boxes but cannot reach the shares anyone help? |
| 02:48.59 | ethics | hoooopy...wait till the bots react hehe |
| 02:48.59 | karsten | robyn: Yay slackware. Enjoy. |
| 02:49.03 | K_Dallas | hoooopy, it makes me fight the sleep :) |
| 02:49.03 | asg | SDFH_Linux: as I said before, which share and from where are you trying to reach them. |
| 02:49.04 | hoooopy | asg, yes my compiled version does say 1.8.2 |
| 02:49.10 | xtension | SDFH_Linux can you ping hte box ? |
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| 02:49.14 | zOap | me don't care, ugh |
| 02:49.20 | SDFH_Linux | no can not ping the other computer |
| 02:49.25 | xtension | SDFH_Linux ping is a utility to see ... |
| 02:49.33 | mrwill | sparr_: well, yeah, a lot of customizations are like that. it's not at all a nonstandard way of approaching the problem, if it isn't already solved for you, you have the tools to make it happen. |
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| 02:49.34 | SDFH_Linux | its on a home network with a router in between |
| 02:49.39 | xtension | SDFH_Linux there you go ! |
| 02:49.42 | SDFH_Linux | and i cannot ping the other computer |
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| 02:49.48 | xtension | SDFH_Linux you dont have a net |
| 02:49.54 | drag_sid | sparr_: I have KDE menu, bitmap item with no icon, 2 blender entries, dia (gnome), inkscape, openoffice draw and impress, wings3d, xcam, xscanimage, xscan |
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| 02:49.56 | SDFH_Linux | ? |
| 02:49.57 | Guerin | erps: i don't know exim at all... i use postfix. |
| 02:49.58 | asg | hoooopy: hmmm, see if /usr/share/doc/ruby/* has information in what the discrepancy might be (check the changelog* specifically) |
| 02:49.59 | sparr_ | mrwill: well, ill just use xsm if i want to do something else, i was hoping there was a solution using the tools im already using |
| 02:50.00 | K_Dallas | ;) karsten i love ice-t |
| 02:50.04 | xtension | SDFH_Linux man interfaces |
| 02:50.10 | sparr_ | drag_sid: thanks |
| 02:50.16 | drag_sid | hope that helps |
| 02:50.26 | mrwill | sparr_: you mean, you don't already have an .xinitrc file? |
| 02:50.27 | xtension | SDFH_Linux or hte net howto |
| 02:50.29 | sparr_ | drag_sid: no additional info, but knowing someone else encounters it helps! |
| 02:50.33 | sparr_ | mrwill: correct |
| 02:50.41 | karsten | K_Dallas: ;-) |
| 02:50.54 | karsten | K_Dallas: ...this has got drowned moths in it. |
| 02:50.59 | karsten | K_Dallas: ...it's not iced, just cold. |
| 02:51.05 | hoooopy | asg, when i had ruby installed the last time it was on a different installation of the same snap of sarge |
| 02:51.15 | K_Dallas | :):) ok, so i pass |
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| 02:51.47 | zOap | Aaah, I love the house on the prairie |
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| 02:52.14 | asg | hoooopy: okay. Well, I'd still check the changelogs and READMES in /usr/share/doc/ruby. Someone else might know though. |
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| 02:52.24 | streuner_ | dpkg, Ice-T ist <reply> a music group which plays Rap |
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| 02:52.32 | hoooopy | asg, that folder does not exist on my machine |
| 02:52.33 | drag_sid | sparr_: undoing the change in menu.h and redoing update-menus as root then as user fixed it. I didn't have to restart gnome to have the debian menu entries updated. |
| 02:52.40 | K_Dallas | yes streuner |
| 02:52.46 | asg | hoooopy: you have to apt-get install ruby first |
| 02:52.47 | drag_sid | no more kde menu or anything like that. |
| 02:53.07 | sparr_ | drag_sid: good to know. you could also fix it by editing /usr/lib/menu/xbase-clients and renaming Bitmap to XBitmap or anything else |
| 02:53.09 | hoooopy | asg, hence why i told you that i apt-got it on another installation |
| 02:53.13 | Anthro | I need a quick shell script solution that will let me get the gateway from an ifconfig from the address and mask. Anyone? |
| 02:53.37 | xtension | Anthro hahaha |
| 02:53.49 | asg | hoooopy: well, apt-get installing it on the one you have wouldn't hurt anything if you want to follow up. Otherwise, stick with your compiled version if you feel comfortable with it. |
| 02:54.08 | mrwill | Anthro: you mean, calculate the gateway? I thought it was just something you had to set. |
| 02:54.23 | mrwill | Anthro: 'route' might be a better way of seeing it. |
| 02:54.26 | Anthro | mrwill: Yes, calculate the gateway. |
| 02:54.26 | drag_sid | Anthro: a gateway address can be any valid IP address. Just knowing the address and the mask is not enough. |
| 02:54.27 | hoooopy | asg, i feel pretty comfortable with it |
| 02:54.42 | hoooopy | it will be a bit faster anyhoo |
| 02:54.44 | drag_sid | er address range |
| 02:54.52 | xtension | Anthro do something with /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:55.04 | Anthro | mrwill: The point of this exercise is to force the default route to only use one interface's gateway. |
| 02:55.27 | mrwill | Anthro: in that case, look at the settings where xtension told you. |
| 02:55.34 | Anthro | drag_sid: Mm, true. For the sake of argument, assume that it will always be addr & mask | 1 |
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| 02:55.48 | Anthro | xtension: It's all DHCP |
| 02:56.20 | xtension | Anthro you hardly make sense to me |
| 02:56.23 | drag_sid | Anthro: probably be easier to use python to do the math. I suck at bash and it's math stuff. Python is VERY robust at math. |
| 02:56.27 | mrwill | Anthro: you need all the interfaces active at once? |
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| 02:57.10 | xtension | Anthro you want to make the default behaviour standard ? |
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| 02:57.27 | xtension | Anthro you want to force the default behaviour to be default ? |
| 02:57.51 | cplx | :\ |
| 02:57.51 | mrwill | xtension: in a minute he might say what he actually wants to do. |
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| 02:58.11 | Anthro | mrwill,xtension,drag_sid: here's the deal. I have a wired interface and a wireless interface. Conveniently, they are different NAT subnets (i.e. 192.168.1.x and 192.168.4.x). I want all non-subnet traffic to go through one or the other. I want to wrap a handy shell script around it, instead of having to do route del default then route add default etc. etc. |
| 02:58.35 | fusQuanto | http://pastebin.com/294348 , can someone look at this and tell me what is going on with my linux box's lan? ive tried two different routers adn i get hte same problem on both, so i dont think the router is at fault. the internet on this computer is extremely slow, hte other computers on my lan are fine.. |
| 02:59.11 | Anthro | Basically, I want to be able to run a shell script with either eth1 or eth0 as its argument, and have it set the default route appropriately. |
| 02:59.38 | evand | Anthro: wouldn't something that supports math better, like perl / python, be easier? |
| 03:00.01 | drag_sid | you could do the math in python and call it from a bash script that would do the rest. |
| 03:00.07 | Anthro | Note that when I have brought up both interfaces without messing with the default route the route command hangs before printing the default route. |
| 03:00.07 | mrwill | Anthro: you should just set it with 'route', set your default gateway to be one interface or the other. |
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| 03:00.35 | xtension | fusQuanto you are running multiple dhcp clients ? |
| 03:00.47 | fusQuanto | xtension: no not that i know of |
| 03:00.50 | Anthro | mrwill: Is it as simple as route add default dev eth1? I've been giving the gateway and mask, too. |
| 03:01.04 | drag_sid | yes |
| 03:01.08 | fusQuanto | xtension: how should i check |
| 03:01.08 | drag_sid | route add default gw |
| 03:01.08 | mrwill | Anthro: don't remember, and also don't remember how to avoid the hanging. |
| 03:01.14 | mrwill | Anthro: used to know. |
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| 03:01.27 | drag_sid | route add default gw 192.168.1.10 |
| 03:01.31 | sneex | !fruitsmite |
| 03:01.41 | xtension | fusQuanto dont know , i dont use pumpd , i use dhclient |
| 03:01.48 | drag_sid | something like that. |
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| 03:02.01 | fusQuanto | xtension: it seems as if pump launches dhclient, you think i should dpkg-r both adn start over? |
| 03:02.10 | drag_sid | just figure how to do it from the command line then copy and paste how you do it into a script... that's what I do. |
| 03:02.27 | xtension | fusQuanto im not sure |
| 03:02.42 | fusQuanto | xtension: what makes you think im running multiple dhcp clients? |
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| 03:03.26 | xtension | fusQuanto because there msgs from pumpd and dhclient , but i tried pumpd once and changed to dhclient |
| 03:03.33 | evand | Anthro: if you want a quick and dirty version, you could just compare the argument and set one for eth0 and the other for eth1, right? |
| 03:03.37 | fusQuanto | xtension: k, thanks |
| 03:03.45 | ethics | asg: you dont have midi stuff at all do you? |
| 03:03.49 | fusQuanto | xtension: so whn you want to get a lease you just type dhclient and thats it? |
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| 03:03.58 | asg | ethics: no, sorry. |
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| 03:04.11 | timt | is debian good to play 3d games with?? |
| 03:04.20 | xtension | fusQuanto do you boot from net ? |
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| 03:04.40 | ethics | asg: hehe alsa site doesnt have 1.0.9 updates yet so i dont know what is still broken on uthat driver hehe |
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| 03:04.42 | evand | timt: I've played both quake3 and UT without particular problems |
| 03:04.44 | PhorceP | I'm using Sarge and am unable to apt-get libuim0. This seems to be preventing me from upgrading anything else... |
| 03:04.47 | fusQuanto | xtension: nope |
| 03:04.58 | Anthro | mrwill: Well, route add default dev eth1 does seem to work, but I now have three default route lines when I run the route command. |
| 03:04.58 | Anthro | That seems dangerous. |
| 03:05.11 | xtension | fusQuanto you could edit /etc/network/interfaces and add the ip and so there |
| 03:05.21 | xtension | fusQuanto skipping dhcp |
| 03:05.31 | timt | evand: have you played will rock or battlefield on it? |
| 03:05.34 | xtension | fusQuanto ifconfig tell you eht is up ? |
| 03:05.42 | fusQuanto | xtension: ic, if dhcp is fine for me do i need to do that? ifconfig looks fine to me... |
| 03:05.44 | xtension | eth |
| 03:05.49 | mrwill | Anthro: yes, it sounds a little odd -- there are lots of docs at netfilter.org |
| 03:05.50 | ethics | PhorceP, did you mean apt-get instal libuim0 or apt-get libuim0...........you need install in there if not |
| 03:05.51 | Anthro | evand: I'm looking for something a little bit cleverer. |
| 03:06.01 | PhorceP | ethics: Yes, install |
| 03:06.05 | xtension | fusQuanto do ping 192.168.1.1 |
| 03:06.10 | evand | timt: no, nothing recent, partly because of crappy gfx card. If there's a linux version of the game, it will probably work |
| 03:06.11 | PhorceP | ethics: I have an error, but I'd have to paste it to #flood |
| 03:06.23 | evand | Anthro: yeah, sounded like it ;) |
| 03:06.32 | ethics | PhorceP, sec i jon |
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| 03:07.00 | fusQuanto | xtension: my ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/294356 |
| 03:07.06 | timt | evand: are there many complications to it?? |
| 03:07.14 | fusQuanto | xtension: pinging is fine to that ip (my router0 |
| 03:07.15 | fusQuanto | ) |
| 03:07.30 | evand | timt: iirc, installing each took a little work, but nothing that wasn't in the instructions |
| 03:07.36 | xtension | fusQuanto so whats the problem ? |
| 03:07.41 | xtension | fusQuanto eheh |
| 03:07.48 | evand | timt: mostly because I didn't want to run their installer and have it drop crap everywhere |
| 03:08.01 | fusQuanto | xtension: all those error msgs... iand this compuers net is super duper slow |
| 03:08.07 | xtension | fusQuanto ah yes |
| 03:08.13 | evand | timt: basically if there's a linux version of the game, debian should be about the same as any other distro |
| 03:08.15 | xtension | fusQuanto you worry |
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| 03:08.51 | caonex | hello, i am running ubuntu live cd warty and it did not setup my monitor properly so i cannot change the resolution from 640x, the smallest, i am at the xorgcfg program and about to select a monitor that can do 1280x1024 which i assume can do because is a 17inch dell, could i harm the monitor in any way by selecting the vertical refresh rate range from 50-70 ? |
| 03:08.54 | fusQuanto | xtension: i worry? |
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| 03:09.23 | Guerin | caonex: #ubunut |
| 03:09.23 | xtension | fusQuanto do : top and look on the top of the screen for the cpu usage |
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| 03:09.24 | fusQuanto | xtension: its normal |
| 03:09.27 | xfce | hi |
| 03:09.29 | fusQuanto | i have wmtop running |
| 03:09.32 | xtension | fusQuanto dont worry |
| 03:09.42 | xtension | fusQuanto enjoy your linux |
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| 03:09.54 | K_Dallas | ho xfce |
| 03:10.00 | K_Dallas | hi even :) |
| 03:10.01 | xtension | fusQuanto what is your cpu speed ? |
| 03:10.03 | fusQuanto | xtension: but why is it so slowwww it takes so long for it to resolve an ip and hten loading hte webpage is quick. the other machines on hte lan arent like that |
| 03:10.09 | fusQuanto | xtension: 1.6ghz |
| 03:10.20 | xtension | fusQuanto edit /etc/hosts |
| 03:10.35 | xtension | fusQuanto remove your pc name from localhost |
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| 03:10.57 | fusQuanto | xtension: http://pastebin.com/294360 /etc/hosts |
| 03:11.10 | jpeg | Hey folks, debian newbie here. Is there an apt-get option to install a package's source , and can I specify where I want that source to go? |
| 03:11.22 | xtension | fusQuanto remove your twoflower name from localhost |
| 03:11.33 | fusQuanto | only hte 'twoflower' part, ok, do i restart anythign |
| 03:11.47 | xtension | fusQuanto and add a line like 192.168.1.108 twoflower under it |
| 03:11.58 | evand | jpeg: apt-get source pkgname |
| 03:12.12 | evand | jpeg: and it goes in the current dir by default |
| 03:12.24 | fusQuanto | xtension: done |
| 03:12.27 | jpeg | cool. thanks evand |
| 03:12.32 | evand | np |
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| 03:12.54 | evand | jpeg: you may need a deb-source line in your sources.list, but I think those are there by default |
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| 03:13.01 | evand | err.... deb-src |
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| 03:13.15 | fusQuanto | xtension: what else? |
| 03:13.18 | xtension | fusQuanto 192.168.1.108 twoflower.localdomain twoflower ? |
| 03:13.51 | fusQuanto | ok |
| 03:14.08 | xtension | fusQuanto more ? |
| 03:14.18 | pe-de-moleque | caonex, ddcxinfo |
| 03:14.32 | fusQuanto | xtension: you tell me :) |
| 03:14.41 | fusQuanto | xtension: im gonna try getting rid of pump, brb |
| 03:14.45 | xtension | fusQuanto is it still slow now |
| 03:14.50 | fusQuanto | xtension: yup |
| 03:14.52 | xtension | fusQuanto no dont do that |
| 03:15.01 | xtension | fusQuanto ok do that |
| 03:15.11 | xtension | fusQuanto just kidding |
| 03:15.31 | fusQuanto | xtension: it takes forever to resolve hte IP's. once resolved it is fast |
| 03:15.33 | fusQuanto | ok brb |
| 03:15.46 | Langly | using mount, what file system is for cd-roms |
| 03:15.49 | Langly | cdfs? |
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| 03:16.21 | fusQuanto | xtension: shoudlnt apt have caught that there was dhclient and pump at hte same time? |
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| 03:16.46 | caonex | pe-de-moleque, what is that? i could not find that executable? |
| 03:17.34 | Langly | ah iso9660 nm |
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| 03:18.03 | jpeg | evand: you were correct, it seems I have a deb-src line by default. groovy. |
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| 03:18.27 | Desiac | installing debian on a new ibm xseries 226, uses a broadcom 5721 onboard NIC, doesn't autodetect the NIC, just wondering if anyone knows another driver i could use or what i may do, thnx |
| 03:19.09 | xtension | fusQuanto well you made also some changes to your system |
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| 03:19.36 | evand | jpeg: you're welcome :) |
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| 03:19.42 | Guerin | !broadcom |
| 03:19.42 | dpkg | it has been said that broadcom is a NIC that's not supported in 2.4.18, but is apparently supported in 2.4.25 (module is named "b44"), or may also be tg3 driver, or see broadcom woody, or evil scum producing undocumented HW and violating GPL. |
| 03:19.49 | Guerin | !tardware |
| 03:19.49 | dpkg | from memory, tardware is the sort of hardware which doesn't have drivers or spec released for it, and consequently doesn't work on any real OS. Notable examples include lexmark printers, winmodems, promise raid cards and cheap digital cameras. Tard if you make 'em, tard if you buy 'em. Ask me about <supported by>. |
| 03:19.50 | fusQuanto | xtension: i dpkg -r pump and in xconsole pumpd is still runing, how do i check to see what package pumpd belongs to? |
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| 03:19.59 | xtension | fusQuanto /etc/resolv.conf ? |
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| 03:20.00 | ethics | Desiac, tg3 if its gigabit |
| 03:20.27 | Desiac | guerin: thnx |
| 03:20.28 | sshock | dpkg -S pumpd |
| 03:20.29 | dpkg | Package: pumpd: Status: install ok installed |
| 03:20.42 | Desiac | ethics: Xpci, yeah giga |
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| 03:21.54 | ethics | Desiac: sarge has it as a tg3 card if its the same broadcom i have |
| 03:22.24 | xtension | fusQuanto can yuo paste it ? |
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| 03:23.02 | WiFiTux | Hi, can I install netbeans with make-jpkg? |
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| 03:23.30 | Desiac | ethics: thnx greatly appreciated :) |
| 03:23.30 | fusQuanto | xtension: all it has is "search wan; nameserver 192.168.1.1" |
| 03:23.46 | phil__ | could someone tell me how to fix this? |
| 03:24.25 | xtension | fusQuanto add # before the search line |
| 03:24.25 | phil__ | when i try to install python2.3-gtk2 it exits with this error trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/pygtk-demo', which is also in package python2.4-gtk2 |
| 03:24.25 | Beto | Hi, I'm having a problem with my printer.... The dmesg returns a message: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven) and it doen't print... Some one already have a problem like that or know the solution?? |
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| 03:24.29 | ethics | Desiac : np glad to help.....onboard sound too? |
| 03:24.42 | fusQuanto | xtension: ok done |
| 03:24.56 | xtension | fusQuanto test |
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| 03:24.58 | fusQuanto | xtension: still slow |
| 03:25.10 | Desiac | ethics: yeah, but not gonna worry bout sound just yet |
| 03:25.18 | xtension | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.28 | fusQuanto | xtension: still not loaded espn.com |
| 03:25.46 | xtension | fusQuanto its just this site ? |
| 03:25.52 | xtension | fusQuanto which loads slow ? |
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| 03:25.55 | fusQuanto | xtension: no,e very site, but espn is a good tester |
| 03:26.11 | xtension | fusQuanto /etc/hosts.conf ? |
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| 03:26.45 | slashven | how could i change the apt-get ftp server |
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| 03:27.08 | xtension | slashven apt-setup |
| 03:27.13 | slashven | because the ftp.de.debian.org is freeze |
| 03:27.15 | fusQuanto | xtension: thats not a file on my box |
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| 03:27.30 | slashven | and what server i need to put |
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| 03:27.44 | fusQuanto | xtension: host.conf: order hosts,bind; multi on |
| 03:28.00 | xtension | fusQuanto ok |
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| 03:28.11 | bwlang | i've got some major hosage of /usr/bin.... what's the command to get apt-get to reinstall everything? |
| 03:28.18 | rover_dan | hi all. i wonder whether the pkg of arm arch could be downded by apt at a x86 platform? |
| 03:28.21 | slashven | it isnt work |
| 03:28.25 | ethics | Desiac: you probably wont be able to get onboard working without driver changes......depends on the chipset but if its ich6/high definition audio you need 1.0.8 or 9 |
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| 03:28.43 | xtension | fusQuanto do this cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | grep dns |
| 03:29.03 | fusQuanto | hosts: files dns |
| 03:29.18 | xtension | fusQuanto well might be your gateway |
| 03:29.27 | xtension | fusQuanto your box is fine to me |
| 03:29.38 | stew | bwlang: /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 03:29.47 | slashven | how could i change the apt-get ftpserver |
| 03:30.06 | fusQuanto | xtension: whata bout both pumpd and dhclient being run |
| 03:30.17 | fusQuanto | xtension: <[mbm]> you ran dhclient, it failed and forked into the background; you then ran pumpd which got a dhcp and configured the network .. dhclient was still running |
| 03:30.40 | fusQuanto | how do i tell to what package dhclient belongs/ |
| 03:30.40 | fusQuanto | ? |
| 03:30.40 | xtension | fusQuanto killall pumpd |
| 03:30.48 | bwlang | stew: thanks bro... that's exactly what i needed - way to improve a bad night ;) |
| 03:30.54 | stew | cheers |
| 03:30.56 | Beto | Hi, Someone knows at least where i can find something about IRQs with printers... ??? or something about it: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).?? |
| 03:31.03 | ethics | PhorceP has a very intresting bug.....trying yo update one package but it's blocked by another. the other is actually part of a metapackage so the force doesnt work....it's in bugtracker but the devs asked for a poarticular command to be made but the command references a package that doesnt exist as a seperate entity but as part of a different package...http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304888 anyone got any ideas on a work around? |
| 03:31.09 | evand | bwlang: good luck, sounds like you need it :) |
| 03:31.30 | xtension | fusQuanto at least you had your maintanance |
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| 03:31.36 | slashven | how coul i change the apt-get ftp serve because the deutch serve seems frozen |
| 03:31.47 | fusQuanto | xtension: not even running :( it runs and stops running it seems? not shows up in ps aux | grep pumpd |
| 03:31.57 | fusQuanto | xtension: what do yo mean had my maintanence |
| 03:32.01 | ethics | beto irq 7 |
| 03:32.05 | xtension | slashven do you have another apt source ? |
| 03:32.10 | evand | slashven: man sources.list |
| 03:32.12 | xtension | slashven the url ? |
| 03:32.50 | stew | slashven: apt-setup |
| 03:33.02 | slashven | i dont know my apt-get get freeze when it begins to work.. it shows conecting to.. and do nothing |
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| 03:33.07 | xtension | fusQuanto i think its your dns server |
| 03:33.19 | slashven | ap-setup doesnt work |
| 03:33.31 | xtension | slashven try with apt-setup |
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| 03:33.41 | stew | !doesn't work |
| 03:33.41 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 03:33.50 | fusQuanto | xtension: i started with a netgear 614 router, then two linksys wrt54 G's. both gave this same problem. thats hat you mean by dns server? cuz thats hte IP it goes to |
| 03:34.01 | Beto | ethics: yes.. its here.. parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. |
| 03:34.01 | Beto | parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA] but what means iterrupted driven?? why the printer doesn't work? |
| 03:34.11 | xtension | fusQuanto eh yes |
| 03:34.31 | bwlang | evand: yeah... you know it's bad when you have put two servers so close to each other that you can stretch the disk cables across... |
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| 03:34.48 | ethics | beto interupt driven is normal...its how the port works......what printer hows it connected and how are you testing |
| 03:34.51 | xtension | fusQuanto you might have the same /etc/hosts situation there |
| 03:34.58 | slashven | xtension it doesnt work.. the bash shows command not found |
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| 03:35.20 | xtension | slashven apT-setup ?! |
| 03:35.31 | WiFiTux | again :(... can I install netbeans with make-jpkg? |
| 03:35.52 | slashven | ay is with capital T |
| 03:35.56 | fusQuanto | xtension: what do you mean? 'same'? |
| 03:36.14 | xtension | slashven no you forgot to mention the t |
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| 03:36.38 | fusQuanto | xtension: ok i got rid of pump and dhclient and somehow didnt lose connection to inet, now i regot pump, lets test now |
| 03:36.55 | slashven | no it continious dont working |
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| 03:37.01 | xtension | slashven vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:37.25 | fusQuanto | xtension: still slow, but the error msgs are gone |
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| 03:37.42 | xtension | fusQuanto did you reboot ? |
| 03:37.59 | stew | slashven: /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
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| 03:38.06 | stew | slashven: you must have it, its part of base |
| 03:38.06 | fusQuanto | xtension: no, reboot linux??? are you krazeee? hehe |
| 03:38.08 | slashven | a ya |
| 03:38.14 | stew | slashven: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 03:38.26 | swim | is progeny officially connected to debian in anyway? |
| 03:38.31 | stew | swim: no |
| 03:38.40 | swim | ah ok |
| 03:38.42 | bwlang | stew: looks like a -y needs to be appended to the instructions... is it missing on purpose to protect people? |
| 03:38.43 | ethics | no ideas on getting around that bug ?? |
| 03:38.49 | Beto | ethics: oks.. if it is normal.. what means lp1: using parport1 (polling). My problem is that it doesn't print.. It is connected using parallel port. The cable and the printer are working... I already test in another computer... |
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| 03:39.09 | stew | bwlang: the reinstall? no if there is an error, please correct it |
| 03:39.16 | ethics | beto how are you testing? |
| 03:39.24 | NetDC | !msg kernel-tree |
| 03:39.35 | NetDC | !dpkg kernel-tree |
| 03:39.36 | xtension | fusQuanto didnt your isp give you dns-servers ? |
| 03:39.43 | ethics | what model printer? the other computer you tested on is linux? how did you test?> |
| 03:39.46 | bwlang | stew: i'm not sure how... do i just /msg dpkg? |
| 03:39.55 | stew | !reinstall |
| 03:39.55 | dpkg | reinstall is probably COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get --reinstall install |
| 03:40.03 | stew | bwlang: whats missing? |
| 03:40.28 | bwlang | stew: just a -y ... without it the command just aborts at the y/n prompt |
| 03:40.36 | slashven | and what line i have tu modify to get a new derver.. or at server i need to chamgewtension |
| 03:40.42 | stew | bwlang: a -y to the apt-get? |
| 03:40.57 | stew | !reinstall =~ s/apt-get/apt-get -y/ |
| 03:40.57 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 03:41.17 | bwlang | stew: right. |
| 03:42.22 | bwlang | okay ... so the dpkg -l -> awk -> apt-get seem to run okay.. but after downloading everything it hand with a couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils... do i need to force this ? |
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| 03:43.22 | fusQuanto | xtension: ok done rebooting, still slow :( |
| 03:43.30 | fusQuanto | xtension: no more error msgs though |
| 03:43.47 | stew | bwlang: maybe apt-get -f install or dpkg --configure -a |
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| 03:44.08 | slashven | it dosnt matter yet because the deutch serve is up and running |
| 03:44.09 | xtension | fusQuanto add this line a top /etc/resolve.conf : nameserver 198.41.0.4 |
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| 03:44.30 | Langly | OK ive moved my server in here so i can actualy see the internet while im at it |
| 03:45.07 | bwlang | stew: nope... i'm going through these packages one by one... coreutils, gzip, perl-base and excluding them from the reinstall |
| 03:45.13 | bwlang | stew: could take a long time |
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| 03:45.28 | Langly | is there a list of network cards compatible with the debian boot floppies |
| 03:45.33 | Beto | ethics: I'm using cups... the configurations is ok.. . It's the same i use in my friends home... I'm not uderstanding.. wait.. I will show you the logs.. I'm tryng again now |
| 03:45.37 | Langly | ive got alot of cards around, tried 3 none were |
| 03:45.42 | fatalblu | can anyone tell me how to completely disable the loading of tcp6 "the debian way"? |
| 03:45.50 | fatalblu | err |
| 03:45.51 | fatalblu | ipv6 |
| 03:45.53 | fatalblu | rather |
| 03:45.59 | xtension | Langly does nt detect your ethernet card ? |
| 03:46.15 | dondelelcaro | fatalblu: there's no point in bothering about it |
| 03:46.35 | fusQuanto | xtension: ok do i need to restart anything after adding that |
| 03:46.40 | fatalblu | there is if you are anal retentive and seeing a bunch of ipv6 will irritate you to no end |
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| 03:46.51 | Langly | xtension yeha |
| 03:46.51 | dondelelcaro | fatalblu: uh, then disable ipv6 in your kernel. |
| 03:46.55 | fatalblu | <--- anal retentive |
| 03:46.57 | fusQuanto | xtension: um now no pages are loading up |
| 03:46.59 | fatalblu | ... |
| 03:47.02 | Langly | well didnt have drivers, 1st one was a netgear |
| 03:47.08 | Langly | 2nd one was a old intel card |
| 03:47.12 | fatalblu | without rebuilding the kernel |
| 03:47.17 | dondelelcaro | fatalblu: but you'll be annoyed ad nauseaum in the next few years anyway, so that's your problem. |
| 03:47.27 | xtension | fusQuanto hehe |
| 03:47.36 | fatalblu | how very helpful |
| 03:47.38 | fatalblu | bah |
| 03:47.44 | xtension | fusQuanto another ip 198.32.64.12 |
| 03:47.45 | fusQuanto | xtension: should i put the dns of my isp? |
| 03:48.02 | xtension | Langly find /lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/net/ | while read f ; do insmod $f; done |
| 03:48.26 | dondelelcaro | xtension: xargs is your friend |
| 03:48.27 | xtension | replace 2.4.18-b... with your kernel |
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| 03:48.41 | steve | hey all |
| 03:48.42 | dondelelcaro | (or find -exec insmod {} \; |
| 03:48.44 | xtension | Langly then wathc the show |
| 03:48.45 | steve | I have a routing question. I currently have a linux router sitting between the internet and my local (public IP) network - how do I forward packets through this device without the outbound connections being marked as the router's IP instead of their own? |
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| 03:49.08 | xtension | Langly bring up your net and remove teh unused drivers |
| 03:49.22 | bwlang | stew: looks like it's all of the base system... doesn't look like dpkg displays anything i can use to ingore those... any ideas? |
| 03:49.37 | fusQuanto | xtension: no go on that oen too |
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| 03:50.33 | Beto | ethics: the error of the cups.. The renderer command line returned an unrecognized error code 127. |
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| 03:50.50 | WiFiTux | how do I run a file from a another location? I'm trying ./path/to/file but does not work. Do I have to be in the folder to do ./ ? |
| 03:51.01 | xtension | dondelelcaro xargs ... dont use it much |
| 03:51.21 | Langly | Im going to try a winpx boot disk and the from dos/windows install method, cd's gotta be able to do more |
| 03:51.25 | dondelelcaro | xtension: time to become familiar with it... it'll save you loads of frustration with quoting |
| 03:51.36 | Beto | I already search in google.. but nothing that solve my problem |
| 03:51.38 | kalessin | WiFiTux: ./ means 'the current directory' |
| 03:51.49 | WiFiTux | kalessin, then? |
| 03:51.49 | xtension | dondelelcaro im used to |
| 03:52.12 | kalessin | WiFiTux: so if you're trying to run ./path/to/file, and there is no path dir in the current dir, then you shouldn't expect it to work. |
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| 03:52.26 | xtension | dondelelcaro but how about loading all the modules ? |
| 03:52.29 | dondelelcaro | FE, find . -type f -print0 |xargs -0 fooprog; works properly with files with spaces and other nasty characters in them |
| 03:52.37 | WiFiTux | kalessin, then what is used? |
| 03:52.41 | xtension | dondelelcaro it s nice solution |
| 03:53.04 | dondelelcaro | xtension: not particularly... best to figure out what network card it is, and load the right one. |
| 03:53.15 | dondelelcaro | although, it probably will work |
| 03:53.24 | kalessin | WiFiTux: the full path to the file. ex: /home/usr/bin/program. |
| 03:53.31 | Beto | ethics: I already search in google.. but nothing that solve my problem |
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| 03:53.34 | bwlang | whew - had to | grep -v about 50 packages to get things going |
| 03:53.39 | WiFiTux | kalessin, got it. |
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| 03:54.36 | Hyde_ | would my-sony.com be domain squatting...? |
| 03:54.37 | Langly | hey Baloo i see your in oregon |
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| 03:55.14 | Baloo | Sure am |
| 03:55.26 | Baloo | Native Oregonian and proud of it. |
| 03:55.36 | Varanger | Baloo: from OSU ? |
| 03:56.00 | Baloo | No, rather not spend too much to go to an A&M. |
| 03:56.21 | ethics | Beto: try a cups irc channel...iff the error is indescript then i dont have any idea whats wrong...maybee worng driver if is trying to render but thats not a definate |
| 03:56.21 | Varanger | Baloo: A&M stands for? |
| 03:56.36 | Hyde_ | agri and mech |
| 03:56.57 | Beto | Do you know any channel of cups?? |
| 03:57.19 | ethics | Beto : i dont belive theres any problem with the parallel ports tho....an lp command may prove that |
| 03:57.30 | Baloo | Varanger: Agriculture and Mechanical. |
| 03:57.49 | Beto | lp somearchive ?? |
| 03:58.11 | Beto | ethics: write a comand.. lp somearchive?? just it?? |
| 03:58.33 | Varanger | Baloo: and where won't you spend time? |
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| 03:58.48 | ethics | Beto man lp i havent used it for a while ... |
| 03:59.35 | ethics | Beto i think is lp -dPrintername filename but you have to assign the lp printername which you would need to check how to do . |
| 04:00.01 | Beto | ethiics: Thank you very much... Don't you know any channel of cups, do you?? |
| 04:00.23 | ethics | dondelelcaro, do you have a moment to have a look at a workaround for a bug? |
| 04:00.45 | ethics | Beto sorry i do not but im sure there will be one even if it's just users helping others |
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| 04:01.09 | Beto | ethics: thank you.. I will search.. |
| 04:01.10 | Baloo | Varanger: I won't spend time in a vast majority of the universe for a wide variety of reasons. Are you looking for a more specific response? |
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| 04:03.43 | ethics | Beto, /j #cups its on this server hehe |
| 04:03.57 | Langly | Bingo, I got the boot cd-rom to work on IDE, didnt work last time I tried a year or so ago |
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| 04:04.32 | rob_lt | Has anyone here ever used gpsdrive? I'm trying to load the nasa satellite map, but can't seem to get it to load. |
| 04:05.40 | Langly | wtf now its giving me "no hard disk could be found" |
| 04:06.26 | K_Dallas | where could i get some direction on setting my atapi drives s scsi-emulated ones? (CD writer) thanks |
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| 04:07.55 | xtension | K_Dallas whats your distro then |
| 04:08.10 | K_Dallas | sarge + 2.6.11 |
| 04:08.17 | Beto | ethics: Ok.. thanks.. again.. but i think the problem is on the hardware... I use lp.. but doesn't work... |
| 04:08.20 | ethics | K_Dallas: are they atapi or SCSI? atapi you just need atapi-cd module loaded.....writing is probably k3b or cdrecord etc... |
| 04:08.39 | K_Dallas | my drives are atapi |
| 04:09.08 | ethics | K_Dallas, then it should be prettymuch setup.. |
| 04:09.08 | bwlang | K_Dallas: you don't need scsi emulation anymore... |
| 04:09.37 | K_Dallas | i was testing xcdroast and it warned me about atapi vs scsi emulation |
| 04:09.48 | Beto | ethics: Ok.. thanks.. again.. but i think the problem is on the hardware... I use lp.. but doesn't work... the jobs are in queue |
| 04:09.48 | K_Dallas | so i should not worry about that, right? |
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| 04:10.22 | xtension | K_Dallas do you actually come to ask about some x app warning ? |
| 04:10.47 | Beto | But.. with the lp1 the cups returns the same error... :( |
| 04:10.52 | bwlang | K_Dallas: yeah - that app is pretty old... don't worry about that warning. if you like a gui i recommend k3b |
| 04:11.00 | Beto | ethics: I will to the cups channel.. thanks.. |
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| 04:11.21 | K_Dallas | ok, i stick with k3b. thanks guys |
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| 04:11.46 | bwlang | stew: i have a command that works to do a reinstall on sarge... but it's pretty long... should i tell it to the bot? |
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| 04:13.16 | Des1ac | tring to do a net install on ibn xseries, not detecting media, ran scsi config, formated disks, created raid mirror. still cant see them, anyone have any suggesstions |
| 04:14.35 | xtension | i bet most of you have a little bar at the bottom of the screen and when you want to open some click application you go to the left corner and open a menu and ... |
| 04:15.52 | Baloo | Try #orlug instead? 8:o) |
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| 04:16.00 | Guerin | xtension: i do ... oh wait, I'm on a windows box |
| 04:16.39 | xtension | please dont say that |
| 04:17.02 | Guerin | why not? |
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| 04:17.22 | Guerin | i don't get the choice of OS when I'm in one of my many workplaces |
| 04:17.23 | xtension | i used to come into #debian and found my box hacked a few houres later |
| 04:17.28 | xtension | those were days |
| 04:17.33 | dondelelcaro | riiight. |
| 04:17.38 | Guerin | sure |
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| 04:17.50 | Guerin | i bet those were the days when you could /msg dpkg for pr0n too |
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| 04:18.11 | ethics | Des1ac, sorry matey was afk....where you up so? |
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| 04:18.18 | xtension | dondelelcaro i know you wont admit it |
| 04:18.26 | MrKeuner | anybody having problem with cups recently? When I try to add a new printer, the device list appears to be empty. What may be the problem? foomatic? |
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| 04:19.07 | Das-UberNuN | hey, can somebody SLOWLY talk me through installing and configuring alsa, preferably in a private chat? |
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| 04:19.17 | goinup | Hi. Hope everyone is well. I was hoping someone could help with Debian + USB. I have a usb keyboard and mouse and was hoping to get the keyboard working (i am not using X so there is no use for the mouse). i am trying to make this a server box but no luck so far (i want to ditch this ps2 keyboard..) |
| 04:19.25 | xtension | Das-UberNuN mmm private |
| 04:19.32 | xtension | Das-UberNuN ;) |
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| 04:20.10 | Guerin | did someone put ecstasy in xtension's coffee |
| 04:20.13 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, depends on what card and kernel....state those and im sure we can try 8) |
| 04:20.25 | xtension | Guerin he s gonna talk dirty |
| 04:20.31 | Guerin | or is he normally this delusional |
| 04:20.44 | xtension | Guerin me ? yes |
| 04:20.44 | Das-UberNuN | uhm.....how do i find out my kernel numbery thing? |
| 04:20.55 | xtension | Das-UberNuN uname -r |
| 04:20.55 | Guerin | uname |
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| 04:21.45 | shivraj | I have a belking 54g wireless card what do I have to do to install it ? |
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| 04:21.48 | ethics | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304888......this looks like it wasnt fixed in the 1-3 version 8( |
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| 04:21.58 | chealer | !tell Das-UberNuN about msgyou |
| 04:21.59 | Das-UberNuN | 2.4.27-2-k7 |
| 04:22.00 | shivraj | somebody said something abt and nriwrapper ?? |
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| 04:22.42 | Langly | hmm gentoo fires up, sees the drives, and sees the network card |
| 04:23.05 | chealer | shivraj: did you mean "about ndiswrapper"? |
| 04:23.15 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, 2.4 kernels are harder than 2.6 kernels to config....is that a new sarge build? |
| 04:23.39 | shivraj | chealer : that might be it |
| 04:23.44 | shivraj | is it a package ? |
| 04:23.55 | xtension | Langly thanks for the information |
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| 04:25.12 | Das-UberNuN | ethics: i dunno, i installed via ftp, using floppies made from images from a /dists/testing/i586 thingamabob |
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| 04:25.48 | Das-UberNuN | can i just apt-get a different Kernel? |
| 04:26.06 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, yeah thats sarge .....do you have any reason not to run a 2.6 kernel that you are aware of? |
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| 04:26.20 | chealer | !tell shivraj about search |
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| 04:26.36 | paulbronxny | hello |
| 04:26.42 | chealer | !tell shivraj about ndiswrapper |
| 04:27.00 | paulbronxny | just installed debian 3.0 tonight on a 80gig harddrive |
| 04:27.05 | paulbronxny | clean install |
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| 04:27.16 | chealer | Das-UberNuN: sure... |
| 04:27.21 | paulbronxny | however it leaves me at a prompt when i reboot |
| 04:27.24 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, yes apt-get a 2.6.8-2 series reboot into it and then run alsaconf as root as see if the inbuilt alsa identifies it ok |
| 04:27.29 | paulbronxny | lilo |
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| 04:27.43 | mario__ | hi to all, greetings from Chile : ) !! |
| 04:27.48 | paulbronxny | where the fuck is the GUI for debian |
| 04:27.59 | paulbronxny | i am going crazy ova here |
| 04:28.01 | xtension | paulbronxny you looking at it |
| 04:28.04 | paulbronxny | any help much appreciated |
| 04:28.16 | chealer | paulbronxny: which GUI? and how come you have lilo on sarge? |
| 04:28.17 | paulbronxny | no this is my windows xp box |
| 04:28.23 | shivraj | chealer : I got a deb package from ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net |
| 04:28.27 | paulbronxny | sarge? |
| 04:28.28 | xtension | paulbronxny it not the same isnt it |
| 04:28.32 | paulbronxny | what the hell is sarge |
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| 04:28.42 | shivraj | but its ndiswrapper-source .... |
| 04:28.45 | chealer | paulbronxny: oops...brain failure on my side |
| 04:29.00 | jason_ | anyone know if ubuntu's update-manager can be used on debian? |
| 04:29.02 | paulbronxny | <--linux rookster |
| 04:29.03 | chealer | paulbronxny: ignore that last question |
| 04:29.06 | paulbronxny | ok |
| 04:29.08 | jason_ | http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/gnome/update-manager |
| 04:29.14 | shivraj | anyone have any experience with this, oh let me read the Packages file |
| 04:29.39 | paulbronxny | i was lookin for a package for KDE |
| 04:29.41 | paulbronxny | for debian |
| 04:29.43 | paulbronxny | no dice? |
| 04:29.48 | paulbronxny | i went to the site |
| 04:30.06 | paulbronxny | saw redhat distrubitions |
| 04:30.14 | shivraj | paulbronxny : search for the correct name of the pacakge at www.debian.org |
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| 04:30.45 | Das-UberNuN | paulbroxny: uhm.....debian comes with KDE and Gnome as standard, dunnit? |
| 04:30.45 | chealer | paulbronxny: debian ships KDE itself |
| 04:30.48 | shivraj | paulbronxny : ie.. it might not be kde but kde-2.0 or something like that |
| 04:30.55 | chealer | paulbronxny: /j #debian-kde |
| 04:30.58 | ajkal | anyone knows of any image editor that allows overlay? |
| 04:30.58 | Baloo | Heh, the TV-MA logo now takes up almost a quarter of the screen at the start of South Park. It's over a square foot on my roommate's big screen. |
| 04:30.59 | xtension | shivraj you are fired |
| 04:31.03 | paulbronxny | well i went thru the whole install this evening |
| 04:31.05 | paulbronxny | no dice |
| 04:31.09 | chealer | paulbronxny: are you installing woody for your desktop? |
| 04:31.10 | paulbronxny | i was left at a prompt |
| 04:31.11 | shivraj | <-- newbie |
| 04:31.24 | paulbronxny | what the hell is woody?? sounds perverted |
| 04:31.30 | paulbronxny | i dont want woodies on my desktop |
| 04:31.36 | ethics | akjak Gimp |
| 04:31.37 | paulbronxny | no thanks |
| 04:31.48 | xtension | paulbronxny try to login |
| 04:31.48 | chealer | xtension: at least shivraj got a clue about packages search |
| 04:31.52 | Das-UberNuN | woody is the last stable version of Debian |
| 04:31.54 | chealer | !tell paulbronxny about releases |
| 04:31.59 | paulbronxny | tities ....well thats a different story....tities i would install |
| 04:32.03 | Das-UberNuN | Sarge is the sexy new testing one |
| 04:32.21 | ethics | ajkal theres prolly others but gimps the best bet |
| 04:32.41 | ajkal | ethics, i hv just tried around w gimp. there's no menu for overlay. |
| 04:32.50 | xtension | paulbronxny type 'root' after login |
| 04:32.53 | mario__ | friends, sarge is stable now? |
| 04:32.55 | paulbronxny | yea no shit |
| 04:32.58 | paulbronxny | i am root |
| 04:33.00 | xtension | paulbronxny then wait |
| 04:33.05 | chealer | mario__: no, see /topic |
| 04:33.06 | paulbronxny | i enter my user pass |
| 04:33.12 | xtension | paulbronxny ok |
| 04:33.12 | ajkal | i mean no menu item to sel for overlay. |
| 04:33.20 | goinup | woudl anyone be able to point me to where i can find info on usb keyboards and debian. i'm not getting any response out of mine and am stuck using a ps2 keyboard :( |
| 04:33.28 | ethics | ajkal when you say overlay what exactly are you meaning? |
| 04:33.53 | ajkal | ethics, overlay one image on top of a background image, say. |
| 04:33.54 | xtension | paulbronxny type : tasksel <enter> |
| 04:34.07 | paulbronxny | i even took some speed to get thru this brutal install tonight |
| 04:34.12 | ethics | ajkal....Layers |
| 04:34.12 | chealer | !tell mario__ about nomsg |
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| 04:34.21 | paulbronxny | ok i am writing this down |
| 04:34.31 | paulbronxny | tasksel |
| 04:34.34 | paulbronxny | sounds familar |
| 04:34.36 | ethics | ajkal the words to look for are layers |
| 04:34.37 | paulbronxny | whats next |
| 04:34.50 | Das-UberNuN | so what do i type to get a newer kernel? |
| 04:34.52 | xtension | paulbronxny there a screen opening with options |
| 04:35.03 | xtension | paulbronxny select them with the spacebar |
| 04:35.03 | ajkal | ethics, so i can put one image as one layer on top of another and the two will become one? |
| 04:35.16 | paulbronxny | right i have done this |
| 04:35.18 | chealer | paulbronxny: step 0 is to tell us whether you're installing debian for your desktop |
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| 04:35.27 | paulbronxny | return and spavebar and N and A |
| 04:35.28 | xtension | paulbronxny push <tab> once |
| 04:35.35 | paulbronxny | i know i memorized it |
| 04:35.54 | paulbronxny | xtention i am about to kick your ass for treating me like a baby |
| 04:36.12 | paulbronxny | i already installed all the fucking extentions |
| 04:36.18 | paulbronxny | where the gui |
| 04:36.22 | Das-UberNuN | i heart Debian, just for the banter in this channel |
| 04:36.26 | xtension | paulbronxny you are in high quality console mode and complain |
| 04:36.34 | paulbronxny | why at the end of the install do i get dumped to some login |
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| 04:36.39 | ethics | ajkal: layer 1 has one image layer 2 has another image ...move mod as appropriate....when saving as jpg/gif it merges them....i expect you can merge them whever you want |
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| 04:37.01 | Desiac | needing to get a copy of aic79xx module for adaptec scsi controller, wondering in anyone can point me in the right direction |
| 04:37.11 | ajkal | ethics, that's great. thanks aplenty. |
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| 04:37.24 | paulbronxny | extention |
| 04:37.28 | paulbronxny | i got another ?> |
| 04:37.28 | evand | Desiac: using a stock kernel? |
| 04:37.33 | xtension | paulbronxny your x is broken due to a wrong setting in its configuration |
| 04:37.40 | paulbronxny | ok |
| 04:37.44 | paulbronxny | i wrote down that error |
| 04:37.46 | ethics | ajkal np 8) |
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| 04:37.57 | paulbronxny | arch/i386/vmlinux.lds |
| 04:38.01 | ethics | Desiac, its probably already there gimme a sec |
| 04:38.03 | paulbronxny | that one u mean? |
| 04:38.11 | Desiac | evand: trying to install on fresh system, yeah stock have unofficial net install and the official testing, neither of which detect the adaptec controller |
| 04:38.12 | Das-UberNuN | everybody's so sarcastic, bitchy and free-speaking in here......i can't say i miss linux XP (mdk10.1) at all |
| 04:38.25 | Desiac | ethics: thnx mate |
| 04:38.31 | xtension | paulbronxny sorry ? |
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| 04:38.38 | evand | Desiac: can you install the module you need through modconf? |
| 04:38.50 | paulbronxny | that error u were referring too i wrote down |
| 04:38.53 | paulbronxny | the path |
| 04:38.55 | paulbronxny | the path was |
| 04:39.02 | evand | or wait, are you not installed at all yet? |
| 04:39.08 | paulbronxny | arch/i386/vmlinux.lds |
| 04:39.21 | ethics | evand finding module name for him atm |
| 04:39.26 | Desiac | evand: no access to modconf, tried a insmod, and get no module by that name |
| 04:39.32 | paulbronxny | remove the *.text.exit entry from the discard line |
| 04:39.45 | evand | ok, I'll let ethics try to figure it out |
| 04:39.51 | nbhoodrat | im having trouble with accessing my cdrom drives. booting there listed as hdc and hdd but in fstab they were listed as /dev/cdrom & /dev/cdrom1 |
| 04:39.57 | xtension | paulbronxny dont know |
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| 04:40.02 | paulbronxny | ok xtention |
| 04:40.05 | paulbronxny | another ? |
| 04:40.06 | Desiac | evand: thnx :) |
| 04:40.07 | paulbronxny | ok? |
| 04:40.08 | evand | nbhoodrat: that's fine, those should be symlinks |
| 04:40.10 | nbhoodrat | is there a program that will configure this for me? |
| 04:40.16 | ethics | Desiac, open console swap to root and try modprobe aic79xx ls mod see if it is listed |
| 04:40.25 | evand | nbhoodrat: are they? |
| 04:40.33 | ethics | Desiac, lsmod on word |
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| 04:40.51 | paulbronxny | harddrive C is windows XP 80gigs |
| 04:41.06 | Das-UberNuN | paulbroxny: i take it you're trying to install Woody. which is a bastard to install......try using the Sarge booyt, root and network driver floppies from the /dists/testing/1586/ section of any debian ftp mirror |
| 04:41.09 | shivraj | NDISWRAPPER anyone ? |
| 04:41.16 | Das-UberNuN | boot* |
| 04:41.31 | Desiac | ethics, no luck ion modprobe, cant open dependencies file |
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| 04:42.18 | tvn | anyone using openmp ? I am attempting to get openmp support but not sure which compiler is best for that |
| 04:42.46 | ethics | Desiac, hmm lspci ..... paste the line regarding scsi controller |
| 04:43.00 | Das-UberNuN | can somebody please give me the command to install a newer kernel? |
| 04:43.19 | chealer | shivraj: what's not clear? |
| 04:43.20 | Desiac | ethics: no lspci installed |
| 04:43.29 | Desiac | just stdard busybox |
| 04:43.47 | chealer | Das-UberNuN: you just install the kernel package you want |
| 04:43.52 | ethics | Desiac, hmm thats weird.... |
| 04:44.02 | shivraj | chealer : there is no documentation |
| 04:44.08 | paulbronxny | so i got 2 harddrives ...both of them 80 gigs....one has windows xp installed and the other debian linux 3.0 ....how do I create a custom bootloader...and where the hell would i install the bootloader...on the windows harddrive or the linux harddrive?? |
| 04:44.13 | chealer | shivraj: what about the factoid? |
| 04:44.20 | Das-UberNuN | what kernel package do i want, exactly? |
| 04:44.25 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 04:44.57 | evand | ethics: why 2.6.8? |
| 04:45.04 | shivraj | it says to buy a linux compatible card |
| 04:45.10 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 would giive you a list of possibilities |
| 04:45.17 | Das-UberNuN | thanks, ethics |
| 04:45.19 | ethics | evand, its the current |
| 04:45.43 | evand | ethics: oh, nm, 2.6.11 would be unstable |
| 04:45.59 | Das-UberNuN | putting a new kernel in isn't likely to have any adverse effects, is it? |
| 04:46.07 | shivraj | chealer let me try the one-liner factoid |
| 04:46.35 | Das-UberNuN | not got much on here to lose, but don't really want my computer spontaneously going into labour or anything |
| 04:46.38 | paulbronxny | so i got 2 harddrives ...both of them 80 gigs....one has windows xp installed and the other debian linux 3.0 ....how do I create a custom bootloader...and where the hell would i install the bootloader...on the windows harddrive or the linux harddrive?? |
| 04:46.58 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, read the apt-cache and apt-get and pkg man pages sometime soon 8) they are your weapons for debian installers |
| 04:47.02 | Das-UberNuN | install the bootloader to floppy |
| 04:47.06 | Das-UberNuN | MUCH safer |
| 04:47.22 | xtension | paulbronxny id do it for you if you let me login to your box |
| 04:47.28 | ethics | evand: 8) the 2.6.11 spams errors on a default install...they dont stop anything but it scares some people 8) |
| 04:47.48 | evand | ethics: oh, yeah, that's a good reason to avoid it :) |
| 04:47.59 | paulbronxny | xtention thanks but no thanks |
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| 04:48.09 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, shouldn't have any major effect |
| 04:48.30 | Das-UberNuN | thanks, ethics |
| 04:48.34 | ethics | Das-UberNuN, the 2.4 is still installled so grub/lilo will give you a fallback path |
| 04:48.50 | paulbronxny | can anyone point me in the right direction maybe a link or something for the bootloader problem of mine |
| 04:49.13 | Desiac | ethics: anyluck with the aic79xx module :) the netinstall is running 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 04:49.25 | ethics | paulbronxny, 2 hdd 1 windows 1 linux: grub can do windows as the second drive...lilo probably cannot.. |
| 04:49.36 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: I suggest searching Googles web and usenet archives for the exact error message. |
| 04:49.47 | paulbronxny | error message? |
| 04:49.52 | ethics | !multiboot |
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| 04:49.52 | dpkg | [multiboot] done with grub/lilo. windows 2k/xp can be on any harddisk if you use grub. key to making 2k/xp work is map (hd0) (hd1)<cr>map (hd1) (hd0) <cr>root (hd1,0)<cr> rootnoverify (hd1,0)<cr>makeactive<cr>chainloader +1... beware that even though you map inside the menu.lst file grub ignores the map changes so if hd2 is your xp drive your root is hd2,0 not whatever you change the mapping too. |
| 04:49.53 | paulbronxny | i am talkin about harddrives |
| 04:50.05 | shivraj | chealer : whats the PREPARER command ? |
| 04:50.07 | ethics | Desiac: can you try doing the install again easily? the 2.6 kernel probably solves this |
| 04:50.31 | ethics | Desiac, when you boot the net installer type linux26 at the boot prompt |
| 04:50.42 | paulbronxny | ok looks like i need to install GRUB? |
| 04:50.44 | ethics | Desiac, the drivers do work.... |
| 04:50.46 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: I suggest searching Googles web and usenet archives for bootloader linux and windows. |
| 04:50.55 | paulbronxny | yea i have already |
| 04:51.05 | paulbronxny | most of them tell u how to do it on one harddrive |
| 04:51.13 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: grub and lilo are the main ones. |
| 04:51.14 | bcole | paul describe your problem again |
| 04:51.26 | paulbronxny | so i got 2 harddrives ...both of them 80 gigs....one has windows xp installed and the other debian linux 3.0 ....how do I create a custom bootloader...and where the hell would i install the bootloader...on the windows harddrive or the linux harddrive?? |
| 04:51.49 | bcole | you install the bootlader on the mft |
| 04:51.58 | ethics | !tell paulbronxny about multiboot |
| 04:51.59 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: Installing grub (or lilo I assume) on the linux hard drive should work. |
| 04:52.04 | chealer | shivraj: m-a prepare? where do you read about that? |
| 04:52.07 | Das-UberNuN | paulbroxny: depends on your CMOS boot settings, really |
| 04:52.17 | bcole | which drive is the first drive connected? |
| 04:52.22 | shivraj | chealer it said something abt running the PREPARE command |
| 04:52.25 | evand | alsa question: I have a program (stepmania) complaining that the alsa device or resource is busy. Is there a way to figure out what else might be using it? |
| 04:52.35 | shivraj | I did apt-get install kernel-headers which fixed the error |
| 04:52.36 | paulbronxny | the windows is first drive connected...the one i am on right now |
| 04:52.50 | paulbronxny | the linux one i have disconnected at the moment |
| 04:52.52 | ethics | thats your choice...id install it on the linux partition myself and leave windows as the second hard disk but if you need to reinstally you have to unplug the linux drive to install xp |
| 04:52.57 | caphuso | * Last-minute upload for sarge, because I don't listen to anything that RM guy says |
| 04:53.04 | chealer | shivraj: that should be equivalent to m-a prepare |
| 04:53.04 | bcole | paul and what happens when you connect the linux one? |
| 04:53.10 | ethics | Evand turn of sound in your WM.... |
| 04:53.15 | ethics | evand, probably kde/gnome |
| 04:53.15 | Desiac | ethics: yeah using the official 'testing' netinstall disk, using linux26, still get the same problem, nort sure build of 2.6 it is, 1 sec and i'll have a look, thnx again :) for the help |
| 04:53.21 | paulbronxny | when i connect the linux one |
| 04:53.22 | evand | ethics: ah, thanks |
| 04:53.23 | paulbronxny | then |
| 04:53.26 | paulbronxny | it says |
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| 04:53.33 | paulbronxny | harddrive missing |
| 04:53.38 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: I expect that your CMOS can be configured to boot the "D:" drive, which is evidently the linux one. |
| 04:53.40 | shivraj | chealer I think its installed |
| 04:53.42 | paulbronxny | f1 or f2 |
| 04:53.56 | Das-UberNuN | okay, i shall now reboot and see if i can't get sound to come out of my speakers :) |
| 04:54.03 | paulbronxny | how do i edit the CMOS |
| 04:54.33 | bcole | paul, you need to setup it so that the linux drive is the first HD in the system and windows teh second |
| 04:54.41 | paulbronxny | YYY |
| 04:54.42 | shivraj | chealer how do I load the driver ? |
| 04:54.46 | paulbronxny | i dont wanna do that |
| 04:54.46 | bcole | then install GRUB on the linux(first HD) |
| 04:54.52 | ethics | evand, alsa doesnt have a mixer so to speak...im still grasping it all but that clash happens in vmware and kde all the time... |
| 04:54.52 | ethics | evand, probably similar to your |
| 04:55.02 | xtension | ah i get it |
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| 04:55.11 | evand | ethics: so I went to kde control center -> sound system -> unchecked enable sound system |
| 04:55.14 | paulbronxny | ok so i just swap order of harddrives |
| 04:55.16 | Desiac | ethics: this version of netinstall im using is built on 2.6.8-1 |
| 04:55.19 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: When you boot the computer, you should be able to press a certain key to go into a mode for editing the CMOS. The exact key varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, but if you're lucky, it'll be announced during boot up. |
| 04:55.19 | evand | ethics: do I need to do more? |
| 04:55.21 | paulbronxny | i dont have to reinstall right? |
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| 04:55.28 | xtension | you re competing for the most funny quote of the day ! |
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| 04:55.59 | bcole | paulbronxy most you would need to reinstall is the bootloader/GRUB on the linux drive to be able to boot windows |
| 04:56.01 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: I'd be surprised if you have to re-install. |
| 04:56.04 | covux | is here anyone able to watch nsv video streams without stutters? i use xine right now and it stutters as hell.. |
| 04:56.04 | ugly | I set my local domain in /etc/mailname (Debian) using 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' and chose an "internet" configuration, but exim4 logs say "relay not permitted" when mail is received for the domain I set - what am I missing? |
| 04:56.20 | shivraj | chealer oh I see its under misc/ |
| 04:56.21 | xtension | http://gimp.shacknet.nu/code/debian/debian-irc.fortune << thats funny ! |
| 04:56.24 | ethics | evand yah ...thats hould be it...obviosly no mp3s etc in background hehe |
| 04:56.34 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: Your computer's manual should also explain how to edit CMOS. |
| 04:56.47 | paulbronxny | right CMOS is BIOS right/ |
| 04:56.49 | paulbronxny | ? |
| 04:56.51 | paulbronxny | or NOT |
| 04:56.54 | ethics | paulbronxny, no you wont need to reinstall either OS.....but if you ever do you need to remove the other drive before starting ie unplug the cables from it |
| 04:56.55 | paulbronxny | probably not |
| 04:57.09 | paulbronxny | f2 at startup is bios |
| 04:57.13 | evand | ethics: right. still no luck... |
| 04:57.35 | ethics | covux: i stream across my lan NP...probably a speed or cache issue... |
| 04:57.40 | evand | ethics: I shouldn't need to restart kde or anything, right? |
| 04:57.46 | Desiac | ethics: the source for the driver (aic79xx) is listed in kernel tree, but no compiled version |
| 04:58.02 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: Yes, the BIOS (basic input output system) is usually stored in CMOS (complementary metal oxise semiconductor) memory. |
| 04:58.09 | arjanoosting | BIOS is stored in CMOS IIRC |
| 04:58.13 | shivraj | when I do modprobe ndiswrapper it says operation not permitted ... |
| 04:58.16 | paulbronxny | ok |
| 04:58.24 | paulbronxny | so f2 at startup |
| 04:58.25 | ethics | covux, try playing with cache setting and if xine doesnt have one try mplayer |
| 04:58.29 | paulbronxny | now i got another ? |
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| 04:58.35 | ethics | evand: it wont hurt.....i dont know where kde grabs it8( |
| 04:58.51 | evand | ethics: ok, trying that then... |
| 04:58.55 | paulbronxny | assuming i swap order of harddrive loading |
| 04:59.02 | paulbronxny | linux first |
| 04:59.05 | Azar | hello mr ethics :) |
| 04:59.05 | bcole | paul have you read what dpkg says about multiboot? |
| 04:59.06 | covux | ethics: k. thx. btw. only sound stutters. video is fluent. |
| 04:59.10 | paulbronxny | windows second |
| 04:59.24 | paulbronxny | yea they talk about multiboot on a single harddrive |
| 04:59.26 | ethics | evand, are you gnome or kde? |
| 04:59.33 | bcole | paul, no its about 2 hds |
| 04:59.34 | shivraj | should I add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and restart ? |
| 04:59.35 | paulbronxny | i dont want filesharing etc |
| 05:00.06 | ethics | Azar, heya bud. im doing my alsa tonight hehe 1.0.9 stable out 8) |
| 05:00.07 | evand | ethics: kde |
| 05:00.11 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: I *HIGHLY* recommend having a stable computer available for googling and chatting while you're trying to make this computer dual boot. You're going to have questions during the process and google and chatting/IRC are by far the best places to get answers. |
| 05:00.17 | covux | ethics: and it also dont have to rebuffer all the time which it normally do if datarate is to low |
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| 05:00.37 | evand | ethics: nope, that didn't work either. |
| 05:00.47 | paulbronxny | well i agree i am hand writing everything down |
| 05:00.50 | paulbronxny | for nwo |
| 05:00.52 | paulbronxny | for now |
| 05:01.02 | Azar | ethics: yeah I was googling all day reading all kind of newsgroup and forums posts by people having problems with alsa in debian, gathering some info |
| 05:01.03 | bcole | paulbronxny: i agree with kingsley, you will need another computer to chat with during the process |
| 05:01.11 | ethics | evand, yeah should be it.. |
| 05:01.17 | paulbronxny | yea that would be a million times easier |
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| 05:01.28 | evand | ethics: should be, but isn't :( |
| 05:01.29 | Guerin | bah, dual-boot is easy |
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| 05:01.31 | chealer | caphuso: heh, just got what you referred to. pretty funny :) |
| 05:01.37 | paulbronxny | but dont have that option just yet |
| 05:01.42 | caphuso | chealer: yeah :) |
| 05:01.42 | Guerin | just make sure you havd a bootcd or a livecd handy |
| 05:01.51 | paulbronxny | bootcd? |
| 05:01.56 | paulbronxny | guerin help! |
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| 05:02.24 | ethics | evand, hmm if i remember rightly alsa does work with jack....that may be worth a look... |
| 05:02.27 | Guerin | paulbronxny: knoppix.net |
| 05:02.31 | chealer | caphuso: even more because he asked on debian-release to accept 3.0.14a-3 which he uploaded himself |
| 05:02.36 | bcole | paulbronxny: a livecd would help alot, its in essence a distro fit onto a cd which allows you to have a running system without needing a HD |
| 05:02.38 | Azar | ethics: so I gathered some conclusions: 1. my original install/upgrade was buggy, 2. I was being compromised by someone who rooted me, 3. I was not able to properly identify and disable the oss... I will try again tonight with a clean fresh install |
| 05:02.40 | ethics | !find jack |
| 05:02.42 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'jack' (15 of 16): alsaplayer-jack ;; gstreamer0.8-jack ;; jack ;; jack-rack ;; jack-tools ;; jackd ;; jackeq ;; liballegro4.1-plugin-jack ;; libjack0.80.0-0 ;; libjack0.80.0-dev ;; libjackasyn-dev ;; libjackasyn0 ;; libwine-jack ;; qjackctl ;; xmms-jack. |
| 05:02.49 | evand | ethics: I'm tempted to think it's not alsa's fault at this point.... |
| 05:02.59 | Azar | ahh master Guerin good evening to you too :) |
| 05:03.05 | evand | ethics: lsof|grep snd returns nothing |
| 05:03.08 | paulbronxny | yea i want the full install thou ....no fucking around |
| 05:03.15 | paulbronxny | no half ass |
| 05:03.20 | caphuso | chealer: well, you gotta follow the rules, don't you? |
| 05:03.20 | paulbronxny | i dont do things half ass |
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| 05:03.42 | bcole | paulbronxny: this would be temporarily for you to chat with us on |
| 05:03.45 | chealer | caphuso: I guessed there was a rule from that :) |
| 05:03.48 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: I assume Guerin is alluding to a type of CD called a "live CD", like "knoppix", which your computer can also boot off of (if its CD drive is bootable). But then you'll need to download and burn the CD and reboot whenever you have a question. Using a second computer really will be much faster. |
| 05:03.52 | ethics | evand, /dev/dsp = sound i think |
| 05:03.52 | Guerin | paulbronxny: absolutely. |
| 05:04.12 | ethics | evand you have got sound normallytho yeah? |
| 05:04.13 | Guerin | but if he doesn't fucking HAVE another computer, it's not an option, is it? |
| 05:04.20 | bcole | kingsley_: im assuming he doesnt have a second computer to use |
| 05:04.22 | karsten | Guerin: Got good news for you . /msg |
| 05:04.26 | Guerin | i mean, *I* may have three computers at home, but not EVRERYONE does |
| 05:04.29 | evand | ethics: well, the device in question is /dev/snd/pcmD0C0p |
| 05:04.31 | shivraj | I see the ndiswrapper in /lib/modules but when I probe it, it says operation not permitted |
| 05:04.37 | evand | ethics: yes, xmms works fine |
| 05:04.45 | shivraj | I added it to /etc/modules restarted and it still doesnt work |
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| 05:05.21 | kingsley_ | bcole: Do you have a dual boot box? |
| 05:05.28 | Desiac | evand: grabbed another version of the netinstall disk, the aic79xx module was there, modprobe'd it, listed in lsmod, not used though. in debian installer still says that no hdd. any ideas? |
| 05:05.33 | karsten | Guerin: depends. You can do a lot of magic with qemu. |
| 05:05.34 | bcole | kingsley_: had |
| 05:05.40 | shivraj | whats so good about Knoppix, I've been hearing a lot about it |
| 05:05.44 | kingsley_ | bcole: What happened? |
| 05:05.48 | fnx | wait, can Debian install rpms, or do i need to get .deb files? |
| 05:05.49 | Guerin | karsten: if you already have a real os up and running |
| 05:05.53 | calyth | Questions related to Linux to M$ Exchange: at the risk of sounding like an absolute dope, Evolution is still GPL, right? Secondly, is there an open source Exchange server replacement, or am I going to have to look at the wallet? I'm trying to map a plan B for an IT department |
| 05:05.55 | Guerin | kingsley_: makes a decent livecd |
| 05:05.59 | fnx | if apt-get can't find anything? |
| 05:06.01 | karsten | Guerin: Runs on Windows. |
| 05:06.05 | binarydigit | shivraj: try #knoppix |
| 05:06.06 | ethics | evand, hmm ok well if xmms is running fine via alsa then it should work.......evand you havent read anything from the proggy refering to alsa or mpu-401? |
| 05:06.13 | ethics | evand, or midi? |
| 05:06.19 | Azar | ethics, what is libasound2 and is that required to install with alsa-base as well? |
| 05:06.31 | bcole | kingsley_: saw no need for it anymore and keep my OS seperate on diff boxes |
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| 05:06.38 | Guerin | karsten: yikes. |
| 05:06.49 | evand | Desiac: sorry, no good ideas... I'd try opening a console and seeing if I can get to it manually |
| 05:07.02 | ethics | calyth. open groupware.....ximian's was take by novell... |
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| 05:07.12 | evand | ethics: faqs and the like mention alsa in passing, but they seem to assume it mostly works :/ |
| 05:07.21 | karsten | Guerin: Yeah. |
| 05:07.24 | paulbronxny | ? for the room |
| 05:07.26 | evand | ethics: what's mpu-401? |
| 05:07.27 | Desiac | evand: if the module is loaded, that should be enough shouldn't |
| 05:07.37 | karsten | Guerin: There's a screenshot IIRC at NewsForge of Mandrake or something running under XP. |
| 05:07.37 | evand | Desiac: I would think so |
| 05:07.39 | Guerin | yes |
| 05:07.45 | calyth | ethics: OG is an Exchange server replacement? |
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| 05:07.51 | Guerin | as long as it's the right module and there are no conflicting modules loaded |
| 05:07.52 | PhorceP | I'm not able to apt-get install libuim0 on sarge. I believe it is because of this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304888 however the fix that the dev suggests doesn't work. I spoke with ethics about this earlier and he suggested I ask again later. Any suggestions? |
| 05:07.56 | karsten | Guerin: ...though getting from there to a disk might take some doiing. |
| 05:07.59 | paulbronxny | did i pick the wrong distro..debian 3.0?? |
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| 05:08.07 | ethics | evand: its all midi stuff... |
| 05:08.11 | Guerin | paulbronxny: yes. install 3.1 |
| 05:08.13 | Guerin | !d-i |
| 05:08.13 | paulbronxny | i dont like these problems i am running into |
| 05:08.13 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: I've got to go soon. Use the force, ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H google and chat. |
| 05:08.14 | dpkg | i guess d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 05:08.22 | ethics | evand : not all alsa card can do midi... |
| 05:08.28 | evand | ethics: ah, ok, I don't think midi is involved here, I think it's all samples |
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| 05:08.47 | fnx | paulbroxny: maybe you'd be better starting with Mandriva |
| 05:08.51 | dabreegster | Isn't Sarge out? debian.org.. |
| 05:08.54 | fnx | until you know a little more |
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| 05:09.07 | Azar | dabreegster, 10 more days |
| 05:09.12 | evand | ethics: yeah, the later error msgs complain about not being able to play assorted ogg files |
| 05:09.13 | Guerin | no, sarge is not out |
| 05:09.15 | fnx | Mandriva is like windows, except without the crap |
| 05:09.19 | ethics | evand, yeah i expected that but then i thought maybee they use midi to talk to the lights or something |
| 05:09.23 | Guerin | and where's this 10 more days quote come from? |
| 05:09.24 | dabreegster | Azar: Oh. Those on testing will have to upgrade to etch? |
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| 05:09.41 | paulbronxny | actually i am a fighter |
| 05:09.44 | Azar | dabreegster, you can get Sarge now if you want |
| 05:09.45 | paulbronxny | i will work thru this |
| 05:09.51 | evand | ethics: nope, that's all parallel port of all things (if you turn it on) |
| 05:09.52 | paulbronxny | however |
| 05:10.06 | dabreegster | Azar: I'm on testing now and I want to stay that way. Will I have to do anything special to keep on testing? |
| 05:10.08 | paulbronxny | i need to know how to easily upgrade to 3.1 |
| 05:10.16 | ethics | evand, ogg i can understand but its solved now i think as mplayer & xine & vlc all seem to have inbuilt now |
| 05:10.16 | paulbronxny | i have 3.0 |
| 05:10.26 | paulbronxny | and i just downloaded the files last week |
| 05:10.26 | Guerin | paulbronxny: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 05:10.28 | Azar | dabreegster, testing is Sarge so you got it |
| 05:10.32 | paulbronxny | already there is a 3.1? |
| 05:10.41 | ethics | !woody -> sarge |
| 05:10.41 | Guerin | !sarge upgrade path |
| 05:10.41 | dpkg | Ok, here's how stable/testing debian upgrades will work once sarge stabilises: If your sources.list says "woody", you'll stay with woody. If it says "sarge", you'll upgrade to sarge. If it says "stable", it'll upgrade to sarge, the new stable. If it says "testing", your sarge box will upgrade to etch, the new testing. Any questions? |
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| 05:10.49 | dabreegster | Azar: Nevermind, I'm a bit backwards |
| 05:11.00 | Guerin | paulbronxny: yes... it's about to release. Monday or so. |
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| 05:11.17 | paulbronxny | ok so what the fuck do i do |
| 05:11.18 | evand | ethics: yeah, the ogg input stuff seems to work; the later errors are internal things saying "I tried to make this play and it didn't," which I assume are all connected to the first error of failed to open device |
| 05:11.28 | paulbronxny | stay with 3.0 |
| 05:11.34 | paulbronxny | try to workout kinks |
| 05:11.39 | paulbronxny | or wait till 3.1 |
| 05:12.03 | bcole | paul, you will be able to upgrade easily when the releases change |
| 05:12.16 | paulbronxny | can i kill someone? |
| 05:12.23 | paulbronxny | please |
| 05:12.25 | paulbronxny | anyone? |
| 05:12.35 | bcole | paulbronxny: i dont see why you cant, but the question is why would you? |
| 05:12.36 | binarydigit | haha |
| 05:12.37 | kingsley_ | paulbronxny: The difference between 3.0 and 3.1 will pale in comparison to the difference between windows and linux. |
| 05:12.39 | Baloo | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/02/1231253 Finally, Microsoft starts coming to it's senses. Maybe not all is lost for them. |
| 05:12.40 | bucky | !tell paulbronxny about d-i |
| 05:13.00 | evand | ethics: thanks for your help, I think I may give up on it for tonight |
| 05:13.10 | paulbronxny | whats d-i |
| 05:13.19 | bcole | paulbronxny: check your messages |
| 05:13.23 | bucky | !d-i |
| 05:13.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 05:13.25 | bcole | dpkg should have sent you some fun |
| 05:13.52 | paulbronxny | ok 3.1is sarge??? |
| 05:13.58 | paulbronxny | i thought it was woody |
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| 05:14.21 | bcole | woody is stable, sarge is testing, when release changes |
| 05:14.29 | bcole | sarge will become stable and etch will become testing |
| 05:14.35 | dawg | 3.0 is woody |
| 05:14.40 | ethics | evand: np if your still stuck have a look at jack...its some sort of a mixer that sits before apps and sound systems i think |
| 05:14.41 | paulbronxny | ok so i have woody |
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| 05:14.50 | paulbronxny | sarge is 3.1?? |
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| 05:14.57 | paulbronxny | so sarge will be easier to install |
| 05:15.02 | bcole | yes |
| 05:15.08 | paulbronxny | do i write over the current install of woody |
| 05:15.16 | paulbronxny | or deltete partitions etc./// |
| 05:15.24 | ethics | Guerin: i thought the factoid was grreat anyways 8) |
| 05:15.24 | evand | ethics: ok, thanks, I'll give it a try at some point |
| 05:15.26 | bucky | paulbronxny, if you have woody installed already just apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:15.28 | karsten | paulbronxny: Do you have woody on your system currently? |
| 05:15.33 | cartel_ | paulbronxny: you dist-upgrade |
| 05:15.43 | paulbronxny | yea i have woody now |
| 05:15.51 | ethics | paulbronxny, the installer will format |
| 05:15.51 | karsten | paulbronxny: ...what bucky & cartel_ said. |
| 05:15.59 | paulbronxny | problem is i cant get ppoe to get me an internet connection |
| 05:16.06 | paulbronxny | dont know what adaptor to select |
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| 05:16.28 | bcole | paulbronxny: you cant get debian to recognize your adapter? |
| 05:16.34 | paulbronxny | NO |
| 05:16.36 | paulbronxny | i cant |
| 05:16.46 | bcole | do you know what adapter you have? |
| 05:16.59 | paulbronxny | also i forgot what my fuckin verizon dsl password is |
| 05:17.10 | bcole | you might want to call verizon about that |
| 05:17.13 | bcole | we cannot help you |
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| 05:17.33 | paulbronxny | i will tell u in a sec what adaptor i have ...i use the program everest to tell me what cards.. i have installed |
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| 05:18.10 | Azar | where can I find to look at module loader configuration files ? |
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| 05:18.53 | ethics | Azar /etc/modules /etc/modconf ...i think thats the 2 you want |
| 05:19.00 | ugly | I'm running exim4 on a box behind a NAT router and I have set my domain name in /etc/mailername and the following update-exim4.conf.conf variables: primary_hostname, local_domains, hosts_treat_as_local - however, I still get "relay not permitted" in my exim4 logs when sending mail to that domain - what could be wrong? |
| 05:19.12 | Azar | thanks, master ethics :) |
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| 05:20.32 | shivraj | anyone using ndiswrapper ?? |
| 05:20.46 | paulbronxny | ok my homies |
| 05:20.54 | paulbronxny | i just took a screen shot |
| 05:21.02 | shivraj | or maybe I should run an ethernet cable from the attic out the window and into my bedroom below |
| 05:21.06 | paulbronxny | of what my harddrive |
| 05:21.09 | ethics | ugly: are you a mailserver for anyone in the world? |
| 05:21.09 | paulbronxny | config looks like |
| 05:21.15 | paulbronxny | so u guys know what the story is |
| 05:21.22 | paulbronxny | i uploaded it to my site |
| 05:21.31 | paulbronxny | http://www.prada.us/1.gif |
| 05:21.37 | ugly | ethics: are you asking if I'm an open relay? no, I'm not |
| 05:21.50 | paulbronxny | thats the screenshot using partition magic |
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| 05:22.35 | ethics | ugly: but you host mail for others? |
| 05:22.37 | ugly | I just don't see why it won't recognize the domain I set as local |
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| 05:22.43 | ugly | ethics: for myself, yes |
| 05:22.43 | bcole | paulbronxny: can you boot into linux? |
| 05:23.00 | ugly | ethics: I have a domain I bought that I use for email |
| 05:23.13 | shivraj | paulbronxny : you run that site ?? |
| 05:23.14 | paulbronxny | yes bcole ...but first i have to disconnect disk1 |
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| 05:23.38 | ethics | ugly: dpkg-reconfigure didnt do what you wanted or you just changed files? |
| 05:23.40 | aficionado | Hi, I am trying to make an initrd but I don't get any output from 'mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.11 2.6.11'... neither does it give any errors :-/ |
| 05:23.48 | ugly | ethics: I did both and neither worked |
| 05:23.56 | ugly | ethics: same error: "relay not permitted" |
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| 05:23.58 | paulbronxny | shivraj thats my site...yes...please leave it alone |
| 05:24.01 | bcole | paulbronxny: are you using lilo or grub as your bootloader? |
| 05:24.05 | HyperZid | hi.. I have the sound card: Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)... dont manage to get the microphone line to work.. any "regular" tests I can do to make it work? |
| 05:24.14 | paulbronxny | lilo |
| 05:24.30 | ethics | ugly: permit your local subnet? |
| 05:24.36 | bcole | paulbronxny: where did you install lilo to? |
| 05:24.49 | paulbronxny | lilo is installed on disk2 |
| 05:24.51 | ugly | ethics: eh? it's not receiving mail from my local network |
| 05:24.57 | paulbronxny | see the diagram |
| 05:25.00 | bcole | paulbronxny: try install lilo to the MBR on disk1 |
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| 05:25.02 | ethics | HyperZid, alsamixer? |
| 05:25.04 | paulbronxny | did u get the picture url? |
| 05:25.07 | shivraj | paulbronxny : nice, how much discount can you give me ? |
| 05:25.26 | ugly | ethics: 2005-06-03 01:20:42 H=zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192] F=<XXXXXXXXXX@gmail.com> rejected RCPT <XXXXXXXX@inhuman.org>: relay not permitted |
| 05:25.26 | paulbronxny | i am an affiliate of amazon shivraj |
| 05:25.31 | paulbronxny | i dont have inventory |
| 05:25.33 | ethics | ugly your trying to send from it tho yeah? |
| 05:25.41 | ugly | ethics: nope |
| 05:25.44 | paulbronxny | i redirect customers |
| 05:25.45 | ugly | ethics: sending from a gmail account |
| 05:25.50 | paulbronxny | to amazon |
| 05:26.06 | paulbronxny | the trick is getting good placement in searchengines |
| 05:26.09 | shivraj | paulbronxny : oh ok, hehe |
| 05:26.12 | paulbronxny | i am on page 1 |
| 05:26.15 | paulbronxny | for prada |
| 05:26.19 | paulbronxny | at msn and yahoo |
| 05:26.19 | ethics | bcole: can lilo boot xp on the second drive? |
| 05:26.34 | bcole | ethics: he has xp on the first drive |
| 05:26.42 | HyperZid | ethics, he volume is on.. in alsamixer.. btw.. i'm using 2.6.8-2 if that helps |
| 05:26.52 | paulbronxny | http://www.prada.us/1.gif |
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| 05:27.06 | paulbronxny | are u people looking at this? |
| 05:27.08 | ethics | bcole : ic kk..i thought it was opposite...didnt look at the pic tho hehe |
| 05:27.27 | dord1 | how can i get a net mask (ie so it says foo@foo.user) - some ppl bothering me. i checked the freenode FAQ and it not mentioned. |
| 05:27.32 | paulbronxny | what the heck is swapspace2 |
| 05:27.44 | bcole | paulbronxny: linux version of virtual memory |
| 05:27.47 | ethics | HyperZid, can you see the mic/capture volumes? theres more than what you see when it opens.... |
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| 05:27.53 | dord1 | also went to #freenode but it wont let me speak in there |
| 05:27.59 | shivraj | paulbronxny : windows !! |
| 05:28.06 | paulbronxny | does it look like i did things correctly? |
| 05:28.12 | paulbronxny | partition wise? |
| 05:28.14 | shivraj | paulbronxny : remove windows |
| 05:28.22 | paulbronxny | i am on windows now |
| 05:28.22 | bcole | paulbronxny: for the simplest setup, yes |
| 05:28.31 | aficionado | can someone please help me? |
| 05:28.33 | paulbronxny | i have too many important docs on here |
| 05:28.40 | paulbronxny | cant remove windows just yet |
| 05:28.54 | HyperZid | ethics, it says "item: mic view: playback" |
| 05:28.59 | skaught | aficionado: What's your question? |
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| 05:29.04 | aficionado | Hi, I am trying to make an initrd but I don't get any output from 'mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.11 2.6.11'... neither does it give any errors :-/ |
| 05:29.05 | paulbronxny | i look forward to deleting windows later on thou |
| 05:29.07 | paulbronxny | for sure |
| 05:29.15 | aficionado | s/get/give |
| 05:29.17 | paulbronxny | so i am off to upgrade |
| 05:29.21 | bcole | paulbronxny: what bootloader are you using at this time? |
| 05:29.22 | paulbronxny | to 3.1 folks |
| 05:29.26 | shivraj | paulbronxny : yes, but you can do that in the setup since its a separate hd |
| 05:29.32 | shivraj | you dont need partition magic |
| 05:29.37 | ethics | HyperZid, yeah theres a capture volume which may be muted....out its on but inwards is turned off prolly |
| 05:29.44 | aficionado | skaught: any ideas? |
| 05:29.53 | dord1 | ??? |
| 05:30.05 | bcole | shivraj: he needs windows for now, he was using PQMagic to show us the part. table setup |
| 05:30.09 | paulbronxny | i am off to upgrade to 3.1 in hopes of a cureall |
| 05:30.18 | shivraj | oh ok |
| 05:30.24 | bcole | paulbronxny: if you want to upgrade to sarge, this is what you should do |
| 05:30.30 | paulbronxny | ok listening |
| 05:30.42 | shivraj | chealer : the module is installed but its saying operationg not permitted when I probe it |
| 05:30.54 | skaught | aficionado: I don't use initrd, so I don't have any ideas off-hand. I'm too tired tonight to go and learn it also... otherwise I could help ya ;) Sorry |
| 05:30.58 | ethics | gah irc via trillian Yuck |
| 05:31.00 | bcole | paulbronxny: leave xp as HD0, make linux HD1, when installing linux, have it completely repartition HD1(linux) |
| 05:31.00 | HyperZid | ethics, I dont see any "capture volume".. in normal gnome mixer. I see a "record button.. under the mic volume".. |
| 05:31.09 | aficionado | skaught: alright, thanks anyways |
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| 05:31.31 | bcole | paulbronxny: when it asks you settings about the bootloader have GRUB install to the MBR on HD0(windows drive) |
| 05:31.40 | paulbronxny | bcole how much to do it for me |
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| 05:31.51 | ethics | HyperZid, alsamixer |
| 05:31.57 | ethics | HyperZid, try the rec button |
| 05:32.16 | paulbronxny | bcole to walk me thru it over the phone...how much $ |
| 05:32.19 | erps | Any exim-experts in the house? Or at least someone who knows enough to give a hand? :) |
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| 05:32.51 | paulbronxny | i want to learn it thats y |
| 05:32.52 | bcole | paulbronxny: i cannot do that, but i will tell you that the new debian installer is ALOT easier to use/install than the previous install method |
| 05:33.04 | paulbronxny | bcole y cant u do it |
| 05:33.05 | paulbronxny | ?? |
| 05:33.14 | paulbronxny | i can pay u thru paypal if u want |
| 05:33.25 | bcole | paulbronxny: i kind of dont have a phone :) |
| 05:33.30 | paulbronxny | i am eager to learn |
| 05:33.37 | paulbronxny | and willing to pay |
| 05:33.47 | paulbronxny | i dont want to be frustrated with this |
| 05:33.51 | sparr | i have made some physical changes to my machine, installed and removed drives. my boot (and root) drive remains, but i get 'Error loading operating system' when i try to boot now. i have handy a debian sarge netinst disc, is there any way i can 'manually' boot the drive in question? |
| 05:34.12 | paulbronxny | see i dont want problems like sparr currently has |
| 05:34.17 | paulbronxny | see what i mean bcole |
| 05:34.20 | skaught | paulbronxny: Hehe then don't be frustrated ;) That's a matter of choice. Reading is the best path to learning, and arguably making your own mistakes |
| 05:34.27 | aficionado | hey, can someone who has a compiled an initrd please give me what they have MKIMAGE set to in /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf? |
| 05:34.34 | drag_sid | sparr: look up 'chroot' |
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| 05:34.40 | paulbronxny | i dont read much i always learn the hard way |
| 05:34.44 | paulbronxny | its the only way i learn |
| 05:34.59 | sparr | drag_sid: i dont even know which device is which right now, how can i tell which devices exist? |
| 05:35.03 | erps | paulbronxny, time to learn to read :p Really makes a difference. |
| 05:35.12 | paulbronxny | i didnt say i cant read |
| 05:35.15 | liable | sparr: is your bios booting the rihjt drive? |
| 05:35.21 | erps | paulbronxny, not trying to grief you. Just that's the easiest way to figure out most things for linux. |
| 05:35.23 | paulbronxny | just prefer to get my hands dirty |
| 05:35.24 | skaught | sparr: If need be you can boot the sarge install disc, go through the steps to auto-detect your hardware, then switch to a second virtual terminal and chroot to your main installation. Then you can repair your bootloader |
| 05:35.25 | sparr | liable: i hope so |
| 05:35.29 | mwilson | aficionado: Why would you have changed it from what it defaults to? |
| 05:35.33 | erps | paulbronxny, the main reason being that people can be utter dicks :p when your needing help. |
| 05:35.36 | drag_sid | I always use fdisk and look at partition sizes to figure out which is which. Otherwise crack open the case |
| 05:35.39 | sparr | skaught: how can i tell what device my main install is? |
| 05:36.04 | aficionado | mwilson: I haven't but it just seems odd that it is directing the output to /dev/null... I am thinking something is going on because I am not getting an initrd image from mkinitrd |
| 05:36.20 | skaught | sparr: Well, fdisk can print the current partitions and their partitions types, that should give you a clue |
| 05:36.32 | mwilson | aficionado: Except that it's not, of course. Tried actually READING the command it uses? |
| 05:36.42 | Azar | at alsaconf it asks me : Do you want to modify /etc/modprobe.d/sound and /etc/modprobe.conf if present ? what should I say ? |
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| 05:36.54 | sparr | skaught: dont have fdisk |
| 05:37.00 | jm_ | Azar: default |
| 05:37.05 | sparr | i also dont have working ide drivers. wtf? |
| 05:37.10 | Azar | ok thanks |
| 05:37.25 | ethics | Azar: did it find the card? |
| 05:37.26 | aficionado | mwilson: what do you mean? |
| 05:37.37 | skaught | sparr: On the sarge CD? it autoloads drivers at a couple points in the installation, if you're using that to boot, then proceed through the install until it loads the required modules |
| 05:37.39 | liable | sparr: what exactly did you do, to get in this mess? |
| 05:37.39 | sparr | modprobe fails to load module ide-detect... this is bad |
| 05:37.49 | aficionado | mwilson: I just looked through the config file to see if I could find something odd :-/ |
| 05:37.52 | sparr | skaught: install process is failing too, same problem |
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| 05:38.10 | ethics | sparr: go past the autodetection part of the installer then altf2 to the new console |
| 05:38.20 | sparr | ethics: i have |
| 05:38.24 | HyperZid | ethics, where can I see the rec button? |
| 05:38.25 | mwilson | aficionado: And you figured you'd just change things randomly, huh? |
| 05:38.28 | aficionado | can someone please give me the output from this command: 'grep MKIMAGE /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf' |
| 05:38.29 | skaught | sparr: I don't want to be a doomsayer, but if you can't load your OS, and the install can't load the ide driver, you might have disk failure |
| 05:38.34 | aficionado | mwilson: I haven't changed it yet! |
| 05:38.40 | sparr | skaught: dont say that :-p |
| 05:38.54 | aficionado | mwilson: it just looked odd and I wanted to double check |
| 05:39.10 | ethics | HyperZid, i think your best to find a gui alsa mixer 8/ |
| 05:39.30 | HyperZid | ethics, with pushing F4.. I see the mic capture device.. nothing wrong with it |
| 05:39.51 | aficionado | mwilson: sorry, can you tell me what you have it set to? :) |
| 05:39.51 | ethics | HyperZid, alsa website says the inputs are working? |
| 05:39.57 | Azar | ethics, like a charm :) I now only have to download xmms and a sample .it file to check it out |
| 05:40.16 | HyperZid | ethics, alsa website?.. how can I find out that? |
| 05:40.38 | ethics | Azar sweet |
| 05:40.44 | sparr | skaught: i cant even load ide-detect for the installer to detect my cdrom drive (in the normal install process), so its not specifically a HD failure |
| 05:41.15 | ethics | HyperZid, google for alsa project check you card in the soundcar matrix and see if they have support for all the outs and ins |
| 05:41.23 | skaught | sparr: Do you have any other bootable media around? |
| 05:42.05 | sparr | im looking now |
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| 05:42.12 | sparr | if i have anything its just gonna be an older sarge netinst disc |
| 05:42.15 | ethics | sparr: originaly install was 2.4 or 2.6 kernel boot? |
| 05:42.20 | sparr | i swear ive got a woody around here somewhere :) |
| 05:42.28 | JeffH | Anyone here run postfix? Is it pretty easy to setup/configure? |
| 05:42.38 | sparr | ethics: 2.4.27 i think |
| 05:42.52 | skaught | sparr: Yeah, try linux26 as the boot option for the latest sarge |
| 05:43.00 | sparr | ok, good news! |
| 05:43.11 | sparr | if i disconnect everything except the boot drive |
| 05:43.12 | sparr | it works |
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| 05:43.26 | sparr | guess its process of elimination to find the problem now |
| 05:43.32 | skaught | sparr: Is the boot drive on a separate ide controller? |
| 05:43.41 | ethics | jumpers et right? |
| 05:44.06 | JeffH | Anyone here run exim? Is it easy to setup/configure? |
| 05:44.10 | sparr | right now its the only thing hooked up |
| 05:44.16 | sparr | !tell JeffH about polls |
| 05:44.22 | Gokee2 | Hey all my kwrite just got a "problem" It will not open I am tried it as a user and as root all it says it "Segmentation fault" any idia? |
| 05:44.27 | Gokee2 | idea* |
| 05:44.45 | ethics | sparr check you have not got the drives on the same master slaves |
| 05:45.04 | JeffH | sparr: I didn't poll.. had I poll I wouldn't have asked if it were easy to setup/configure. |
| 05:45.19 | paulbronxny | ok my niggas i am about to upgrade to 3.1 so do i install via ISO or what |
| 05:45.23 | ethics | Gokee: what kernel version? |
| 05:45.42 | ethics | gokee: and is it and uptodate sare or woody? |
| 05:45.51 | JeffH | Does anyone know if qmail is actively developed? |
| 05:45.58 | Gokee2 | ethics, 2.6 |
| 05:46.06 | ethics | paulbronxny, iso if you can burn it |
| 05:46.41 | ethics | JeffH, yes it is... |
| 05:46.50 | Gokee2 | ethics, the middle grade sorry I forgot the name |
| 05:47.00 | paulbronxny | how big is the upgrade install |
| 05:47.05 | paulbronxny | to 3.1 |
| 05:47.05 | sparr | JeffH: why not just ask "is qmail actively developed?" |
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| 05:47.24 | ethics | Gokee2: so sarge on a 2.6 kernel....all Dist upgraded? |
| 05:47.24 | sparr | woot! |
| 05:47.25 | sparr | boot! |
| 05:47.33 | JeffH | sparr: same difference. |
| 05:47.48 | JeffH | thanks ethics. |
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| 05:48.09 | JeffH | I've not seen an update to qmail in some time on the repository. |
| 05:48.13 | sparr | I get this message about 20 times near the start of every boot, what causes it (substitute other names for foo)? ERROR: Removing `foo` : Device or resource busy |
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| 05:48.43 | sparr | JeffH: no, the answer to your question was "yes, someone knows". the answer you wanted was "yes, its actively developed" |
| 05:48.54 | Gokee2 | ethics, I hade not done a dist upgrade in a while |
| 05:49.02 | Gokee2 | Do I "need" to? |
| 05:49.21 | ethics | JeffH theres some issues...its not in apt licenses or something |
| 05:49.26 | erps | I keep screwing up somehow - I keep setting up SMTP-AUTH in exim4 and it's definitely not working. Anyone able to give a poor chap a hand who is at the end of his schtick and has spent 18 too many hours trying to do this. |
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| 05:50.03 | ethics | Gokee well seg fault is software bug normally so its best to be uptodate check if it still errors else the question would be you do realise your XXX versions behind us |
| 05:50.31 | Gokee2 | ok |
| 05:50.45 | Gokee2 | It just started after it had been working fine |
| 05:50.56 | Gokee2 | one min it worked the next "poof" lol |
| 05:51.06 | Gokee2 | all try a upgrade I guess |
| 05:51.10 | ethics | Gokee: im on a 2.6.8-2-686 kernel with dist update and kwrite opens......so its inconsistant |
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| 05:51.29 | ethics | Gokee2 rebooted at all since? |
| 05:51.43 | sparr | I have a 60GB drive containing my root filesystem, a 120GB drive containing mp3s and such, and some new large drives (how large to be determined when I RAID them). i want to move the contents of the 120 onto the new drives, trivial. but i also want to move my root from the 60 to the 120. what is the right way to copy the files, and then what changes will i need to make to my configuration (other than device names in my grub config)? |
| 05:52.03 | Azar | ethics in alsamixer, do I need to raise the volume on LFE andLine? I have no idea what for are those |
| 05:52.42 | JeffH | ehtics; yeah, I know there's some issues that keep it from being in the 'official' debian repositories.. but they've setup thier own repository and even with that I've never seen an upgrade. |
| 05:52.43 | ethics | Azar line = line in ...blue plug.....LFE no clues ... |
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| 05:53.03 | ethics | Azar : i wouldnt think you need either |
| 05:53.11 | Gokee2 | ethics, no |
| 05:53.15 | Azar | oookk thanks, yeah they are muted in default |
| 05:53.23 | Gokee2 | I never reboot unless I really have too |
| 05:53.53 | ethics | JeffH...no one maintaining debiand packages prolly on their end |
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| 05:54.54 | bucky | JeffH, because of licensing you can only get the qmail-src |
| 05:55.14 | bucky | apt-cache show qmail-src |
| 05:56.11 | ethics | Gokee reboot before upgrade....it mayt just be a memmory leak or somethign |
| 05:57.04 | JeffH | bucky: not true.. you can get a binary.. just not from the official debian repository. |
| 05:57.09 | ethics | ok all im offey home...cyas soonish |
| 05:57.15 | jm_ | sparr: read Hard disk upgrade mini howto |
| 05:57.49 | bucky | JeffH, so you're asking why a deb from a non official repository isn't updated? |
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| 05:58.22 | jm_ | erps: have you tried in #exim? |
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| 05:59.03 | JeffH | bucky: no, I was just curious if qmail was actively developed.. thinking that maybe it wasn't because there hadn't been an update to the deb. |
| 05:59.42 | bucky | JeffH, there's never been a debian binary for qmail afaik |
| 05:59.52 | tra | Hello, I'm having problems with X11 forwarding in ssh. I login to my remote machine with the command ssh -X and get the error "DISPLAY is not set" when I try to run an x program. any suggestions? |
| 05:59.58 | erps | jm_, yah, been there for a day now :p Nobody responds to anybody. |
| 06:00.03 | jm_ | tra: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 06:00.09 | jm_ | erps: darn |
| 06:00.15 | JeffH | bucky: I know thier hasn't... but there is a binary out there.. just not official. |
| 06:00.23 | jm_ | erps: how about /msg dpkg smtp auth? |
| 06:00.24 | erps | jm_, hah for sure |
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| 06:00.42 | tra | jm_: thank you |
| 06:00.42 | sgeigerbot | Does anyone know of an on-screen ruler application (like kruler) that doesn't require KDE? |
| 06:00.53 | bucky | JeffH, what version is it out of curiousity? |
| 06:01.00 | Xinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.20 | erps | jm_, been there done that :p But I think I just found something that might lead me to fixing my problem :) Let you know in a bit - thanks for the hand. |
| 06:01.37 | Xinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.40 | Azar | hmm this is strange, I am in user and I just downloaded 3 .zip files I cannot find them anywhere..? |
| 06:01.58 | jm_ | tra: no worries |
| 06:02.00 | JeffH | bucky: 1.03 |
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| 06:02.17 | bucky | JeffH, qmail-src is current |
| 06:02.19 | Azar | all I should have in user was only these 3 files? where'd they download? |
| 06:02.57 | bucky | erps, have you tried apt-get install exim4-doc-html and reading the docs in a brower? |
| 06:03.05 | sparr | i have a highpoint RAID controller. i want to do software RAID, so i need to just get the devices to show up individually. they dont appear as /dev/hde and /dev/hdf like i expected, perhaps i need to install a driver of some sort? |
| 06:03.13 | kaol | Azar: you could try to find them with find ~/ -name "*.zip" |
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| 06:03.43 | drag_sid | sparr: if it's sata they show up as /dev/sd* sometimes. |
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| 06:03.52 | sparr | drag_sid: its ide |
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| 06:04.15 | jm_ | and they don't always show up as hde/hdf - there's a kernel setting related to it |
| 06:04.42 | drag_sid | does the device get recognized by the kernel.. the controller should show up in lspci and in dmesg output. |
| 06:05.08 | jm_ | and it should be mentioned in /proc/interrupts /proc/ioports |
| 06:05.14 | sparr | 0000:01:0b.0 RAID bus controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT372A (rev 02) |
| 06:05.16 | Azar | nope hmm this is strange |
| 06:05.17 | sparr | so sayeth lspci |
| 06:05.40 | Azar | when I do download a file how do I know where it will be placed? |
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| 06:06.26 | drag_sid | does it mention it anywere in dmesg? |
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| 06:06.42 | sparr | yes |
| 06:06.43 | sparr | ewwww |
| 06:06.50 | sparr | theres an Oops to go with it in dmesg :( |
| 06:06.56 | jm_ | heh |
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| 06:07.26 | drag_sid | that sounds like a problem, then. |
| 06:07.35 | erps | bucky, yah. I just found the doc piece I was looking for in that, buried in a file that doesn't make sense for what I was looking for, but there it is. |
| 06:07.55 | HyperZid | anyone know where I can check if the alsa driver for "Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)" got support for microphones.. I cant find out where to check that at the alsa webpage |
| 06:08.13 | Azar | audio x-zipped-mod |
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| 06:09.01 | Azar | question: why I cannot see the files I download on my "empty" user directory? |
| 06:09.33 | Azar | this is a first that I experience this |
| 06:09.35 | jm_ | HyperZid: they used to have a page with all the features for each driver, but I can't find it lately |
| 06:09.49 | bucky | Azar, how did you download them... a link in a browser or with wget? |
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| 06:10.32 | Azar | I use lynx, got to http://www.modarchive.com/artists/solo/ and picked solo-afd.it which downloads as a zip file |
| 06:10.40 | HyperZid | jm_, seems like I maybe found it: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-C-Media#matrix |
| 06:11.05 | Azar | ..highlighted the song file name and D ownloaded |
| 06:11.24 | HyperZid | jm_, (4) Capture of sound not supported... but no (4) after the driver.. |
| 06:11.32 | bucky | Azar, you probably didn't actually save the download... you have to tell lynx to do that with 'd' iirc |
| 06:12.06 | Azar | hmm bucky this is the first time, all the time I have used the same method, maybe Sarge has a new method / security stuff |
| 06:12.33 | jm_ | HyperZid: ahh yes, I am on the same page, but couldn't figure it out so quickly, yeah makes sense |
| 06:12.35 | Azar | lynks asks if you want to (D) ownload ? and I D it |
| 06:12.40 | bucky | Azar, you didn't download it as root or su or something did you? |
| 06:12.47 | Azar | no, as user |
| 06:12.53 | Azar | I would not download as root |
| 06:13.04 | Azar | and I never use su as I stay in console most of the time |
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| 06:13.37 | HyperZid | jm_, then it must be something else which is wrong:\.. and atm.. I have no idea |
| 06:13.40 | Azar | I will use wget lets see if it works |
| 06:13.46 | bucky | Azar, so ls /home/hammer doesn't show anything |
| 06:13.46 | jm_ | lynx let's you specify download dir in .lynxrc |
| 06:13.59 | jm_ | HyperZid: maybe you have to unmute the input channel? |
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| 06:14.39 | HyperZid | jm_, thats not the problem.. i've unmuted them all with the gnome alsa mixer |
| 06:15.04 | Azar | hmm it does not work |
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| 06:15.32 | jm_ | HyperZid: well I am using CM8738 now, but with 2.4 kernel so no ALSA |
| 06:15.41 | HyperZid | jm_, I belive it worked long time ago.. before I upgraded to 2.6.x.. |
| 06:15.50 | HyperZid | jm_, exactly |
| 06:16.23 | Azar | hammer@triton:~$ ls is brand new from new install it should show my .zip files but is empty |
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| 06:16.45 | Azar | wget does not work |
| 06:17.05 | jm_ | Azar: use LYNX_SAVE_SPACE env var if you're too clueless |
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| 06:17.21 | jm_ | but it defaults to current dir |
| 06:17.46 | bucky | Azar, try ls -a and see if any dot files are in the directory at all |
| 06:17.50 | travers | does sarge come with GNU screen? |
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| 06:17.58 | bucky | and apt-get wget |
| 06:18.11 | jm_ | travers: why don't you find out? |
| 06:18.29 | travers | jm_, not near a debian b0x0r |
| 06:18.33 | JeffH | I'm running 'stable' right now. Monday I'd expect to have quite a few packages to upgrade... is that correct? |
| 06:18.35 | Azar | bucky when I try a download it lynks tells me: audio/x-zipped-mod D)ownload, or C)ancel so I type D |
| 06:18.36 | bucky | travers, not by default.. |
| 06:18.36 | Guerin | travers: no, out of it's ~16,000 packages, they missed out one of the half-dozen most useful |
| 06:18.37 | jm_ | travers: http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 06:18.44 | travers | ty |
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| 06:19.11 | shivraj | wohoo wirless works |
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| 06:20.18 | Azar | jm_ sorry I did not understand what you were saying? |
| 06:20.22 | Orcrist | I love this channel so much |
| 06:20.25 | Zap-W | anyone know the title of an old trance track that goes like "Arrrree youuu ready , di di ....di di ...di di......." |
| 06:20.32 | Orcrist | when someon asks a question that would take three characters to answer |
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| 06:20.38 | Orcrist | someone wastes 5 lines being an elitist |
| 06:20.42 | Azar | this is the first time since Woody when I download files from lynks and they do not show up |
| 06:20.44 | SDFH_Linux | what do you have to put in etc/fstab for nfs to work |
| 06:21.02 | Azar | does SArge prevent users to download? |
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| 06:21.19 | Guerin | Azar: oh, come on. |
| 06:21.19 | SDFH_Linux | ? |
| 06:21.23 | jm_ | let's not mention all the people who waste more time explaining how they love such an attiude |
| 06:21.25 | shivraj | I think my wireless is working better in linux than in Windows |
| 06:21.34 | Azar | Guerin, I am baffled it never happend such while on Woody |
| 06:21.35 | Guerin | SDFH_Linux: man fstab |
| 06:21.42 | Azar | there is something going on and I have no clue |
| 06:21.48 | shivraj | now I can use it all the way on the first floor and the wireless adapter is in the attic |
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| 06:22.08 | Azar | and darn I do not like to use Firefox or other gui browser |
| 06:22.15 | Guerin | Orcrist: too lazy to search for yourself? I'm not too lazy to lart you for it. |
| 06:22.17 | bucky | i like it when somebody that doesn't even hang out here drops in to critique my helping |
| 06:22.25 | Guerin | the indefinite you; not you personally |
| 06:22.27 | Azar | hmm I will try with links |
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| 06:23.51 | bucky | Azar, there's links, links2, lynx and w3m... find something that works |
| 06:23.57 | Langly | whats the difference between debian-30r4-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso and debian-30r4-i386-binary-1.iso, what is NUS? |
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| 06:24.29 | jm_ | Langly: software from nonus section -- /msg dpkg nonus |
| 06:24.39 | bucky | Langly, outdated and without encryption |
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| 06:25.44 | bucky | Orcrist, is that you Branden? |
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| 06:25.51 | Langly | ah heh i read it as no nus not non us |
| 06:25.52 | Bird | have a sex chat? |
| 06:26.07 | Bird | looking for sex.. |
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| 06:26.55 | Langly | so the nonus is one that cant be exported from the us, or one that is for non us places |
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| 06:27.14 | Condector | hey |
| 06:27.27 | bucky | Langly, which is no longer true and the non-us repos has been dropped |
| 06:27.28 | Bird | have a sex chat? |
| 06:27.32 | Bird | have a sex chat?PLZ |
| 06:27.39 | Condector | anyone know howto use qmail-sccanner with debian ?? |
| 06:27.40 | Langly | ftp://debian.oregonstate.edu/debian-cdimage/images/current/i386/ im looking at that |
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| 06:28.04 | bucky | Langly, are you allergic to sarge? |
| 06:28.14 | Langly | no, im just a newbie |
| 06:28.28 | bucky | !tell Langly about d-i |
| 06:28.40 | liable | Bird: what are you? |
| 06:28.58 | Azar | ok lynx sucks, links rocks thanks bucky |
| 06:29.09 | bucky | yep |
| 06:29.18 | caphuso | $'%{\e]0;--= '$OTHERVAR$' =--\a%}' |
| 06:29.29 | sparr_ | my highpoint RAID controller failing to work as a plain old IDE controller: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1VCv5z46.html |
| 06:29.54 | Langly | sarge sarge-i386-netinst.iso, already have that heh, but it gave me issues, didnt like my quad pentium pro at all |
| 06:30.07 | luulis | how can I freeze some versions with dpkg/apt to keep a specific version of wine from sarge instead of having apt-get upgrade it to newest from unstable that doesnt work properly |
| 06:30.13 | Bird | iam looking for sex,with men or women,..lesbian.. |
| 06:30.19 | Bird | iam female |
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| 06:30.37 | *** kick/#debian [Bird!foobar@p5481D172.dip.t-dialin.net] by caphuso (do that somewhere else please) |
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| 06:30.41 | *** mode/#debian [-o caphuso] by caphuso |
| 06:30.45 | liable | !beer caphuso |
| 06:31.33 | liable | hah |
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| 06:32.04 | furrywolf | my guess was a spambot, and anyone who messages it would have been sent links to porn and/or windoze torjans. |
| 06:32.09 | furrywolf | trojans |
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| 06:32.49 | travers | Bird is all over freenode right now |
| 06:32.51 | Langly | sarge totaly wouldnt see my harddrives on my quad ppro box, nor my network card, both seen perfectly by gentoos 50 meg live cd |
| 06:33.03 | Guerin | travers: looks like furrywolf was right then |
| 06:33.25 | Langly | can i write 6 of the cd images to 1 dvd without any problems? |
| 06:33.36 | Langly | im low on cd's and have a ton of dvd'rs |
| 06:33.49 | jm_ | Langly: no, it's not that trivial |
| 06:33.49 | shivraj | wow, I got everything working in debian, wireless, sound, X windows finally |
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| 06:34.00 | sparr_ | this is my very first kernel oops :) |
| 06:34.37 | furrywolf | at least you get oopses. I just get hard lockups, which are much harder to track down... |
| 06:35.00 | Azar | ethics, hmm everything is ok, but xmms wont play damn |
| 06:36.13 | cartel_ | *W* Bird is ~opti0n@217.52.60.4 (Ahmed) |
| 06:36.14 | shivraj | Azar: I know the feeling, (listening to my favorite radio station) |
| 06:36.19 | cartel_ | Ahmed is a very female name |
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| 06:36.40 | shivraj | cartel_ : ?? |
| 06:36.44 | Azar | hmm mod files are midi type |
| 06:36.44 | cartel_ | someone should have done the old "/me puts on his wizard robe and hat" |
| 06:36.59 | Azar | maybe xmms do not play mod files |
| 06:37.12 | cartel_ | Azar: it does, with a plugin |
| 06:37.33 | cartel_ | mikmod |
| 06:37.35 | Zap-W | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:37.48 | cartel_ | . |
| 06:38.03 | Azar | thank you cartel_ |
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| 06:39.35 | Azar | anyways generally speaking the entire install/upgrade/kernel upgrade and all went 100% successfully thank you all, good night :) |
| 06:40.08 | jazzmans | how do I save text using vi once I've used (a) to add the text? I'm stuck in console, editing my sources.list. |
| 06:40.24 | furrywolf | :w |
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| 06:41.09 | jazzmans | thanks furrywolf. |
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| 06:43.12 | furrywolf | liable: don't version people. |
| 06:43.59 | liable | furrywolf: couldnt help it, am using xchat, (which I dont usually) and its so easy. :) why not? |
| 06:44.19 | shivraj | whats the best limewire like program for debian ? |
| 06:44.29 | takatumi | liable: it's ever easier in irssi-text, but still why? |
| 06:44.47 | takatumi | shivraj: giFT |
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| 06:45.52 | sparr_ | so many nice new hard drives |
| 06:45.56 | sparr_ | and no ide channels for them |
| 06:45.57 | sparr_ | this sucks |
| 06:46.08 | Celiun | Anyone know where I might be able to get some help with XFree86? |
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| 06:46.14 | liable | takatumi: bored, no other reason. was just fiddling, and I did it. |
| 06:46.23 | bcole | how would i tell ls to use color all the time without specifying --color |
| 06:46.36 | caphuso | bcole: make an alias |
| 06:46.49 | bcole | duh |
| 06:46.56 | takatumi | liable: yeah, did that once. :P |
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| 06:48.40 | takatumi | liable: save it and make some statistics of the clients used in #debian and put it on the web, post a link on /., add google ad words and make money. ;) |
| 06:49.07 | liable | nah, reading a magazine now. |
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| 06:49.57 | bucky | bcole, uncomment the color lines in .bashrc |
| 06:50.14 | bucky | and source .bashrc |
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| 06:53.15 | pfortuny | hi, any way to bypass the "host protected area" in an IDE hard drive? |
| 06:53.40 | takatumi | Celiun: checked /var/log/XFree86.0.log for errors? |
| 06:54.02 | sparr_ | if anyone out there is using a hpt372-ish RAID card, for hardware or software RAID or even just as an IDE controller, i could use some help (specifically some info on your kernel) |
| 06:54.36 | thomas_adam | bcole: or see /msg dpkg ls colour |
| 06:54.45 | takatumi | thomas_adam! |
| 06:54.54 | thomas_adam | takatumi: Hello. |
| 06:55.41 | themolester | hello, why would mkfs.jfs /dev/sda1 show Error: Cannot open device /dev/sda1. when im running from root |
| 06:55.57 | tarzeau | themolester: did you partition the disc? |
| 06:55.59 | themolester | i just modified the partition using parted |
| 06:56.01 | tarzeau | themolester: cfdisk /dev/sda ? |
| 06:56.10 | tarzeau | themolester: oops :) |
| 06:56.12 | themolester | wont work on fdisk, due to large partition |
| 06:56.20 | themolester | >2TB |
| 06:56.21 | tarzeau | themolester: how large? |
| 06:56.23 | takatumi | tarzeau: bubbles? |
| 06:56.25 | tarzeau | themolester: oops |
| 06:56.27 | pfortuny | wow |
| 06:56.28 | tarzeau | takatumi: i'm at werk |
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| 06:56.43 | themolester | anyway, the partition is in there... |
| 06:56.44 | tarzeau | themolester: how many disks? |
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| 06:56.57 | tarzeau | themolester: well that's a limit... :) |
| 06:56.58 | themolester | i'd have to check, i think 16 |
| 06:57.02 | tarzeau | themolester: file a bug, using BTS |
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| 06:57.17 | tarzeau | themolester: or don't make so large partitions |
| 06:57.22 | pfortuny | why? |
| 06:57.30 | themolester | there partition limit is only for fdisk |
| 06:57.38 | themolester | parted uses non dos compatible partitions |
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| 06:57.49 | themolester | which can support extreme partitions |
| 06:58.17 | themolester | my bad tarzeau it was 12x400 |
| 06:58.22 | themolester | not that it matters |
| 06:58.30 | themolester | :) |
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| 06:58.57 | tarzeau | themolester: and cfdisk ? |
| 06:59.13 | themolester | cfdisk doesn't make gpt tables |
| 06:59.23 | tarzeau | !gpt |
| 06:59.28 | tarzeau | themolester: gpt being? |
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| 06:59.40 | Dazgard | hi |
| 06:59.41 | themolester | non dos partition table |
| 06:59.43 | themolester | :) |
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| 07:00.20 | Langly | do they offer debian dvd images? |
| 07:00.24 | dondelelcaro | Langly: yes |
| 07:00.28 | themolester | ok, nm, i seem toi have banged on it and gotten it to work |
| 07:00.36 | themolester | Format completed successfully. |
| 07:00.36 | themolester | 4687495168 kilobytes total disk space. |
| 07:00.36 | Langly | havent found them if they do |
| 07:00.42 | themolester | so much for the 2TB limit ;-) |
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| 07:01.06 | pfortuny | hi, any way to bypass the "host protected area" in an IDE hard drive? thx |
| 07:01.09 | takatumi | themolester: play pen? |
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| 07:01.46 | takatumi | would be nice to have 2 TB at home. :) |
| 07:02.11 | themolester | ya, too bad its not tucked under my bed |
| 07:02.13 | Langly | dondelelcaro where at i cant seem to find any, and I dont want to go with sarge net installer |
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| 07:02.46 | dondelelcaro | Langly: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/jigdo-area/ |
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| 07:03.40 | takatumi | Langly: why not the netinstaller? |
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| 07:04.08 | Langly | its having issues with some of my hardware other full cd's dont seem to |
| 07:04.19 | Langly | like refusing to see hard drives period |
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| 07:05.32 | Langly | mainly Adaptec 2940UW cards |
| 07:05.40 | Langly | and lots of my network cards |
| 07:05.56 | Langly | no drives, no network, kinda wreaks the point of net install :P |
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| 07:06.10 | takatumi | Langly: file a bug, check bts. |
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| 07:07.22 | Langly | the adaptec 2940UW is a very common, and although old very good scsi card |
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| 07:07.47 | Langly | ive got 6 of em :P |
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| 07:08.56 | dondelelcaro | Langly: I personally haven't had an issue with the 2940s and d-i. |
| 07:09.18 | dondelelcaro | there's really not a difference between d-i on the netinst and d-i on the full cds... |
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| 07:09.42 | Langly | the gui's partition util kept coming back as no hard disk found |
| 07:09.55 | Langly | i kept trying various things till i gave up |
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| 07:10.03 | Langly | gentoo is working perfectly so far |
| 07:10.06 | dondelelcaro | Langly: were the appropriate modules loaded? could you drop to the console and see the drives? |
| 07:10.19 | Langly | nope, I tried |
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| 07:10.34 | Langly | couldnt do to much though, I am a linux newbie |
| 07:10.35 | dondelelcaro | what did dmesg say? |
| 07:10.43 | tarzeau | openoffice.org 1.1 when i start it, on this computer it hangs at the bootsplash. |
| 07:10.49 | dondelelcaro | exciting |
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| 07:11.41 | takatumi | how can it hang at bootsplash, you mean the splash screen of OO? |
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| 07:11.54 | Celiun | anyone know where the kernel source is stored when you've gotten it with apt-get? |
| 07:12.03 | bcole | /usr/src? |
| 07:12.03 | tarzeau | takatumi: yes. and it doesn't move on, until i kill it |
| 07:12.12 | Langly | WHOA I was just looking at the gcc++ compiler screen with my eyes out of focus, and the text looked like boobies, like with those weird 3d pics |
| 07:12.20 | Celiun | thanks |
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| 07:13.04 | spdf | Hey fellas, someone able to answer a quick apache question about Virtual Hosts? |
| 07:13.17 | sshock | spdf: maybe |
| 07:13.20 | bobibleyboo | Hey does anybody know of a way to sync mail to a pilot in debian I used to use many moons ago pilot-mail sync but it does not appear to be available for deb is their another alternative? |
| 07:13.40 | takatumi | tarzeau: 1.1 runs fine here. |
| 07:14.14 | bcole | bobibleyboo: apt-cache search pilot | less |
| 07:14.30 | spdf | I have two domains pointing to one IP, and have the virtual host config pointing each one to a seperate document root, what should be in the <virtualhost> part? I can't seem to get them to split off.. |
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| 07:14.46 | tarzeau | takatumi: also on other machines, here |
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| 07:15.11 | tarzeau | takatumi: anyways, suddenly it starts fast now. don't ask me, i tried the debug hint from the manual page: OOO_DEBUG="strace -o oolog" openoffice |
| 07:15.23 | sshock | spdf: it's pretty easy |
| 07:15.25 | bobibleyboo | that is the first thing that I tried their is nothing in the archive that I could find |
| 07:15.35 | takatumi | tarzeau: heh, it got scared. |
| 07:15.36 | spdf | sshock, lol, I imagine it is, I'm missing something big and dumb for sure.. |
| 07:15.39 | sshock | first put <VirtualHost *> |
| 07:15.42 | bcole | bobibleyboo: i dont know then |
| 07:15.45 | spdf | sshock, Right, that's what I have.. |
| 07:15.51 | sshock | Then inside that |
| 07:16.01 | sshock | DocumentRoot /path/to/wherever |
| 07:16.12 | spdf | sshock, I have <VirtualHost *> for each, and DIFFERENT DocumentRoot's for each.. |
| 07:16.14 | sshock | ServerName mydmain.com |
| 07:16.25 | sshock | yes, that is correct |
| 07:16.25 | spdf | sshock, check. |
| 07:16.41 | sshock | If you want you can specify ErrorLog too |
| 07:16.49 | bobibleyboo | Thanks anyway |
| 07:16.50 | sshock | so log file goes to different place |
| 07:16.53 | spdf | sshock, Yeh |
| 07:16.55 | bcole | bobibleyboo: sorry :( |
| 07:17.06 | sshock | Also, if someone goes to your website via IP address |
| 07:17.12 | sshock | apache will use the first VirtualHost |
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| 07:17.54 | spdf | sshock, The server is on my home network and just port forwarded, could that be messing with it? |
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| 07:18.11 | sshock | possibly. I'm running several domains here |
| 07:18.14 | sshock | and I only use port 80 |
| 07:18.23 | leoster | hi |
| 07:18.40 | sshock | hmmmm, I'm going through NAT though as well, with no problem |
| 07:18.45 | leoster | i gonna have firewall run on my debian box |
| 07:18.45 | sshock | I mean, my firewall does NAT |
| 07:18.56 | leoster | but problem |
| 07:19.07 | leoster | i can't have iptables work |
| 07:19.10 | bcole | sshock: make sure under the virtual host section you have different domain names specified |
| 07:19.22 | leoster | it seems that kernel module has not been installed |
| 07:19.35 | sshock | we're helping spdf, not me :) |
| 07:19.35 | spdf | bcole, its me thats doing it.. |
| 07:19.46 | spdf | bcole, I have different domains specified.. |
| 07:19.48 | bcole | sorry |
| 07:19.52 | bcole | my bad |
| 07:19.55 | spdf | bcole, No worries :) |
| 07:20.04 | sshock | spdf: so what exactly is the symptom of it not working? |
| 07:20.16 | bucky | leoster, did you apt-get iptables? |
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| 07:20.36 | leoster | bucky: yep |
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| 07:21.02 | bucky | leoster, have you upgraded your kernel since install? |
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| 07:21.13 | leoster | bucky: no |
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| 07:21.20 | elmn8u | whats the command for distro-upgrade ?? |
| 07:21.24 | bucky | i think that might be it |
| 07:21.26 | leoster | bucky: do i have to? |
| 07:21.34 | spdf | sshock, It's loading up the same page for both domains.. |
| 07:21.38 | bcole | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:21.45 | spdf | sshock, http://pastebin.com/294432 <-- the relevant part of my config.. |
| 07:21.48 | sshock | spdf: did you restart apache ? |
| 07:21.49 | elmn8u | thanks |
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| 07:21.53 | bucky | leoster, apt-cache search kernel-image and try one |
| 07:21.54 | spdf | sshock, lol, yah :) |
| 07:22.07 | bcole | spdf: how are you access the websites? |
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| 07:22.38 | sshock | hmmmmmm |
| 07:23.01 | bcole | nice domain names btw |
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| 07:23.17 | spdf | Thanks |
| 07:23.36 | spdf | Its definitely not porn.. btw.. |
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| 07:23.57 | sshock | I can see one difference right now with mine |
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| 07:24.03 | leoster | bucky: i prefer a stable one, which do you recommend? |
| 07:24.24 | sshock | that is I'm using www.domain.com |
| 07:24.24 | sshock | not just domain.com |
| 07:24.24 | spdf | sshock, I had that before, let me change it back and try it.. |
| 07:24.34 | bucky | leoster, a 2.4 that matches you architecture |
| 07:24.34 | slaha | hi, i am trying to use gimp to do overlay of images. i have a jpg image and a smaller animated gif image. i want to overlay several copies of the gif image on the jpg image so that the resultant image will be animated where the gif had been placed. i try to use gimp but do not know where to start even after reading the 'help. anyone can help? |
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| 07:24.52 | sshock | Put ServerName www.whatever.com |
| 07:24.57 | sshock | and then put a |
| 07:25.04 | sshock | ServerAlias whatever.com |
| 07:25.04 | leoster | bucky: i havent done it before, is this straitforward? |
| 07:25.14 | bcole | spdf: try chaning NameVirtualHost to NameVirtualHost * |
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| 07:25.22 | bucky | leoster, pretty much |
| 07:25.32 | furrywolf | you might try #gimp for gimp questions |
| 07:25.39 | spdf | bcole, that did it. |
| 07:25.44 | spdf | bcole, You're a champ! :) |
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| 07:25.55 | coywolf | where should I send a patch on /sbin/installkernel ? what mailing list? |
| 07:25.57 | leoster | bucky: 2.4.18 or 2.4.18.1 |
| 07:26.20 | spdf | sshock, Thanks for the help too.. |
| 07:26.34 | sshock | no prob :) |
| 07:26.34 | bucky | leoster, so you're running woody... hmm.. |
| 07:26.34 | spdf | Turns out it was something retarded after all.. |
| 07:26.48 | bcole | spdf: i hate those retarded things, they always get me |
| 07:26.49 | sshock | Mine does have NameVirtualHost * as well, so that makes sense |
| 07:26.51 | leoster | bucky: yes, thats what i saw alot from yesterday :) |
| 07:26.59 | bucky | leoster, get one that matches your cpu.. that's what's important |
| 07:27.05 | spdf | bcole, Stupid mundane detail.. |
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| 07:27.33 | leoster | bucky: i know that, i like to know if 18 or 18.1 is more stable |
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| 07:28.29 | bucky | leoster, i don't think their is much difference... |
| 07:28.29 | sciboy | Gah! |
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| 07:28.40 | furrywolf | I'll be around to answer GIMP questions tomorrow... but right now my lungs hurt like hell, so I'm going to bed. |
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| 07:29.01 | sciboy | XFCE4 is not working. And all i got to work with is the error in .xsession-errors "open: Permission Denied |
| 07:29.03 | leoster | bucky: arch is i686, but what is smp? |
| 07:29.14 | bucky | leoster, dual proc |
| 07:29.30 | sciboy | Any ideas on where i should start looking? |
| 07:29.33 | slaha | hi, i am trying to use gimp to do overlay of images. i have a jpg image and a smaller animated gif image. i want to overlay several copies of the gif image on the jpg image so that the resultant image will be animated where the gif had been placed. i try to use gimp but do not know where to start even after reading the 'help. anyone can help? |
| 07:29.46 | bcole | slaha: maybe try in #gimp? |
| 07:29.58 | leoster | bucky: thx alot, now i shuld apt-get it? |
| 07:30.02 | furrywolf | slaha: OK, I was going to help you, but now that you ignored what you were told and repeated, you aren't getting help. cyas. |
| 07:30.08 | liable | slaha: #debian is prolly not the best place for that. |
| 07:30.23 | bucky | leoster, if you want iptables |
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| 07:30.35 | slaha | furrywolf, what did i ignore? |
| 07:30.48 | furrywolf | where I told you to ask im #gimp... |
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| 07:31.25 | slaha | furrywolf, bullshit, you know nuts. i don't need your help. go fuck yourself. |
| 07:31.34 | leoster | bucky: another question, how can i enable autocomplete for apt-get like knoppix, i tried it alot :( |
| 07:31.49 | Guerin | there's no useful #gimp on freenode |
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| 07:31.59 | Guerin | #gimp on irc.gimp.org might be of some use though |
| 07:32.48 | Guerin | !blame Phated for singaporeans being stupid and obnoxious |
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| 07:33.46 | sshock | [1~ |
| 07:33.47 | streuner_ | dpkg, magic hateball |
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| 07:34.09 | Guerin | space |
| 07:34.09 | leoster | how can i enable autocomplete for apt-get like knoppix? |
| 07:34.13 | Guerin | between hate and ball |
| 07:34.18 | jm_ | leso;start zsh |
| 07:34.22 | streuner_ | dpkg, magic hate ball |
| 07:34.24 | ircdevil | møjn |
| 07:34.43 | jm_ | leoster ^^^ or see if bash can do it (/etc/bash_completion) |
| 07:35.11 | Guerin | knoppix uses bash by default, iirc |
| 07:35.21 | leoster | jm_: bash can do it, but apt-get can't |
| 07:36.17 | tarzeau | Guerin: and the wrong run level |
| 07:36.23 | pfortuny | hi, any way to bypass the "host protected area" in an IDE hard drive? thx |
| 07:36.41 | Guerin | tarzeau: indeed. |
| 07:36.52 | Guerin | pfortuny: fdisk would do it |
| 07:37.02 | pfortuny | how, Guerin? |
| 07:37.10 | Guerin | pfortuny: man fdisk |
| 07:37.11 | pfortuny | it only shows 30Gb out of 60 |
| 07:37.18 | pfortuny | :) |
| 07:37.19 | Guerin | fdisk does? |
| 07:37.23 | Guerin | in unix? |
| 07:37.25 | pfortuny | yep |
| 07:37.50 | Guerin | must be a bios thing then |
| 07:38.11 | pfortuny | so it *can* be the bios? |
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| 07:38.37 | Guerin | well, it sure as hell ain't a software thing |
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| 07:38.49 | sciboy_ | Ok, i need some help. |
| 07:38.58 | bcole | 30gb seems like a strange area for cutting the disk short at but if fdisk reports it that way then... |
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| 07:39.07 | sciboy_ | Alot of my applications are now having socket errors |
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| 07:39.24 | sshock | [1~/close |
| 07:39.28 | leoster | how can i enable autocompletion for apt-get like knoppix? |
| 07:39.32 | pfortuny | bcole: 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 65531 cylinders = 33820286976bytes |
| 07:39.43 | pfortuny | (units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes) |
| 07:39.45 | sciboy_ | For one, my window manager refuses to start up (.xsession-errors) "open: Permission Denied" |
| 07:39.56 | sciboy_ | xmms just spat this out at me. |
| 07:39.58 | sciboy_ | ** CRITICAL **: setup_ctrlsocket(): Failed to assign /tmp/xmms_sciboy.0 to a socket (Error: Permission denied) |
| 07:40.13 | bcole | pfortuny: 65531 seems awfully close to 65535 which is 8bit limit |
| 07:40.20 | sciboy_ | Any ideas? |
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| 07:40.24 | pfortuny | sciboy_, can be the permissions of the /dev/sound |
| 07:40.26 | bcole | pfortuny: how old is this bios? |
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| 07:40.38 | pfortuny | bcole, two years at most |
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| 07:40.46 | sciboy_ | pfortuny: I'll check it out. |
| 07:40.49 | sciboy_ | brb. |
| 07:40.49 | pfortuny | but it recognizes a 200Gb |
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| 07:41.42 | sparr_ | my hpt372a-based RAID controller fails to work in linux, details http://rafb.net/paste/results/1VCv5z46.html . if anyone out there is using a hpt372-ish RAID card, for hardware or software RAID or even just as an IDE controller, i could use some help (specifically some info on your kernel) |
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| 07:41.51 | bcole | pfortuny: in the bios is the setting for that ide channel set to auto or user defined? |
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| 07:42.08 | pfortuny | auto as of now |
| 07:42.12 | pfortuny | it might be that |
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| 07:42.31 | bcole | was it something previously not auto? |
| 07:43.05 | pfortuny | you mean if it was different before? Dunno, the disk comes from another computer |
| 07:43.14 | pfortuny | and I don't remember. Probably auto, but who knows... |
| 07:43.14 | bcole | no i mean, in your bios |
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| 07:43.52 | pfortuny | there was a non-auto disk, but a different one (80Gb) |
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| 07:44.07 | bcole | on the same ide channel before this 200gb? |
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| 07:44.51 | pfortuny | ok, there was a non-auto 80Gb alone, master in IDE0. Then we upgraded and 200Gb auto in IDE0 and 80Gb IDE1, 60Gb IDE1 slave |
| 07:45.03 | pfortuny | the slave at IDE1 is the "hpa" problematic |
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| 07:45.11 | vincenz | Hello |
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| 07:45.32 | pfortuny | but the 60Gb has always (also in the previous computer) being somewhat "funny" |
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| 07:45.45 | bcole | make sure in the bios, IDE1 slave is set to auto |
| 07:45.50 | vincenz | I have mandrake on my desktop at home, however I recently bought a laptop and installed vmware on it. Within this vmware I would like to install linux, and I'mc onsidering debian (because it will mostly be used for development). Which install cd do you recommend? |
| 07:45.53 | pfortuny | it is now |
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| 07:46.06 | bcole | and it doesnt work? |
| 07:46.09 | Guerin | !d-i vincenz |
| 07:46.10 | dpkg | vincenz, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 07:46.30 | vincenz | I was thinking of mounting an iso as bootcd |
| 07:46.40 | pfortuny | bcole: dmessg says: "(...) currenc capacity 33820MB" "native capacity 60060MB" |
| 07:46.40 | bcole | pfortuny: if you know the correct CHS of the drive you can try to user define it |
| 07:47.08 | bcole | i dont know then |
| 07:47.09 | vincenz | dpkg: is it devel or stable? |
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| 07:47.11 | pfortuny | you know what I mean? linux knows it is HPA-protected |
| 07:47.22 | pfortuny | and what I want is to de-HPA it |
| 07:47.30 | bcole | vincenz: dpkg is a bot |
| 07:47.36 | vincenz | oh |
| 07:47.44 | pfortuny | bcole, thanks anyway |
| 07:47.50 | vincenz | well is the debian-installer devel or stable or testing? |
| 07:48.03 | vincenz | I've heard stable runs far behind on the devel version (and that devel is a beta-stable anyways) |
| 07:48.13 | bcole | right now its sarge which is testing |
| 07:48.27 | vincenz | ah thanks |
| 07:48.31 | bcole | but will become stable in a few days |
| 07:48.34 | vincenz | do you recommend I make a dual boot or use vmware? |
| 07:48.46 | bcole | vincenz: depends on what you want to do |
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| 07:49.27 | vincenz | bcole: differentiating factor benig? |
| 07:49.29 | vincenz | ...being? |
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| 07:49.55 | bcole | vincenz: theres lots, if you want to just play with linux, vmware would be a safer option |
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| 07:50.34 | vincenz | development |
| 07:50.59 | bcole | development of your own? |
| 07:51.11 | vincenz | The thing is... well at home my box is fully mandrake, but a laptop... I like the windows feel, plus it supports more wireleness networks |
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| 07:52.22 | bcole | vmware would be alot more convienent, but compiling would take a bit more time |
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| 07:52.57 | vincenz | true |
| 07:53.02 | pfortuny | is it dangerous to simply do "cat /dev/null > /dev/hda" ? |
| 07:53.06 | bcole | ultimately its up to you |
| 07:53.08 | pfortuny | assume /dev/hda is empty |
| 07:53.09 | vincenz | tho I don't do heavy development mostly smaller programs to test out my ideas |
| 07:53.18 | vincenz | I'm thinking not doing dual boot will be less of a hassle |
| 07:53.25 | vincenz | I know that at home I have dual boot but I haven't used windows in AGES |
| 07:53.33 | vincenz | (might as well empty that drive after backing up the documents) |
| 07:53.45 | vincenz | plus ntfs doesn't allow you to wriet from linux (and windows can't read reiser |
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| 07:54.05 | bcole | pfortuny: i dont see why it would hurt |
| 07:54.19 | pfortuny | ok, just in case |
| 07:54.56 | pfortuny | I mean cat /dev/urandom |
| 07:55.31 | tarzeau | pfortuny: that's just slow |
| 07:55.38 | tarzeau | pfortuny: what do you really want to do? |
| 07:56.05 | pfortuny | well, I've a problem I don't know how to solve: Host Protected Area |
| 07:56.16 | pfortuny | in a 60Gb which becomes 30Gb because of it |
| 07:56.30 | pfortuny | and I wondered if doing sth like that could remove it or so |
| 07:56.33 | pfortuny | :? |
| 07:56.48 | tarzeau | pfortuny: i don't know what hpa is |
| 07:56.54 | tarzeau | pfortuny: what software tells you that? |
| 07:56.59 | pfortuny | dmesg |
| 07:57.18 | tarzeau | pfortuny: and you can't just cfdisk the disk? |
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| 07:57.19 | bcole | that dmesg software is trash, dont listen to it :) |
| 07:57.22 | pfortuny | I mean, the 60Gb appears as 30Gb because it has that HPA thing |
| 07:57.22 | tarzeau | and use the full 60 gb? |
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| 07:57.45 | pfortuny | tarzeau, no, it appears as 30Gb with fdisk, cfdisk, even hdparm |
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| 07:58.00 | liable | pfortuny: what machine is this on? |
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| 07:58.14 | tarzeau | pfortuny: is it really 60gb? |
| 07:58.32 | sparr_ | If I boot my computer without my network cable plugged in I am unable to get a net connection later. I can bring up the interface, then try to run dhclient, but it tells me the network is down, or that recieve_packet fails, depending on the order i do things in |
| 07:58.34 | pfortuny | but dmesg says "current capacity: 30Gb" "native capacity: 30Gb" |
| 07:58.42 | sparr_ | what do i need to do to make 'hot plug' ethernet work |
| 07:58.46 | sparr_ | If I boot my computer without my network cable plugged in I am unable to get a net connection later. I can bring up the interface, then try to run dhclient, but it tells me the network is down, or that recieve_packet fails, depending on the order i do things in. what do i need to do to make 'hot plug' ethernet work? |
| 07:58.53 | sparr_ | oops, didnt mean to repeate the combined |
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| 07:58.58 | simonrvn | re octothrope-debian dwellers |
| 07:58.58 | pfortuny | liable, it is a quite normal AMD xp2100, it recognizes a 200Gb and an 80Gb |
| 07:59.05 | tarzeau | sparr_: what nic is that? nvidia nforce? |
| 07:59.15 | tarzeau | sparr_: usually it just works |
| 07:59.17 | sparr_ | tarzeau: rtl8139, using 8139too |
| 07:59.24 | pfortuny | I have googled for hours and there are only windows tools to deal with that HPA thing |
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| 07:59.35 | pfortuny | (and some of them really **expensive**) |
| 07:59.46 | vincenz | bcole: you recommend I make a native partition or do you think that a file as partition is good enough |
| 07:59.58 | tarzeau | pfortuny: sucks, who is the manufacturer of the disk? |
| 08:00.07 | bcole | vincenz: i have used the file without problem |
| 08:00.09 | pfortuny | samsung |
| 08:00.14 | liable | pfortuny: nothing in bios about it? |
| 08:00.16 | pfortuny | SP6003H |
| 08:00.19 | tarzeau | pfortuny: did you tell tehm? |
| 08:00.27 | vincenz | bcole: well you're basically doing blocksearching twice...once on the hd once on the simulated hd |
| 08:00.30 | pfortuny | nope, not yet, but I might as well |
| 08:00.51 | pfortuny | nothing in bios about it. I'll try to set it up manually and non-auto |
| 08:00.53 | bcole | vincenz: no doubt its slower |
| 08:00.56 | pfortuny | and see what comes out of it. |
| 08:01.00 | bcole | but its more convienent |
| 08:01.05 | tarzeau | pfortuny: can you dump me your rom extensions, please? |
| 08:01.12 | tarzeau | pfortuny: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ree/ |
| 08:01.15 | pfortuny | ?? |
| 08:01.25 | pfortuny | rom? what rom? |
| 08:01.29 | vincenz | bcole: how so? |
| 08:01.36 | tarzeau | pfortuny: video rom and others |
| 08:02.10 | pfortuny | ehmmm, so I download your tool and wnat else? |
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| 08:02.31 | bcole | vincenz: having to resize an existing part and make a new one compared to creating a file |
| 08:02.39 | vincenz | bcole: not much hassle really |
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| 08:03.05 | unenick | hi |
| 08:03.27 | unenick | im using debian unstable.. now i want to have gnome-desktop in german.. how can i do that? |
| 08:03.37 | pfortuny | tarzeau, I'm downloading it |
| 08:03.44 | vincenz | bcole: plus....I'm tinking...if I use a native partition...maybe I can even boot it natively |
| 08:03.45 | tarzeau | pfortuny: cool, thanks |
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| 08:03.52 | pfortuny | usage? |
| 08:03.58 | tarzeau | unenick: von zuerich? |
| 08:04.19 | simonrvn | unenick: set your locale |
| 08:04.25 | bcole | vincenz: doing that is tricky but possible |
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| 08:04.28 | simonrvn | unenick: visit locale howto |
| 08:04.44 | pfortuny | tarzeau: usage? |
| 08:04.54 | vincenz | bcole: tricky ni what sense? |
| 08:05.02 | unenick | tarzeau, noe winterthur |
| 08:05.13 | bcole | vincenz: hardware in VM and physical machine differ |
| 08:05.17 | tarzeau | pfortuny: ./ree.sh or make && ./ree |
| 08:05.32 | tarzeau | pfortuny: run as root (since you need to access memory directly) |
| 08:05.39 | pfortuny | tarzeau: yes, I see the .rom files.... How do I know I am *not* sending you my credit card number :)? |
| 08:05.45 | unenick | simonrvn, i have to add in locales.gen de_CH right? |
| 08:06.12 | tarzeau | pfortuny: run file *.rom or strings them |
| 08:06.34 | simonrvn | !utf-8 |
| 08:06.34 | dpkg | i heard utf-8 is Unicode encoding and ISO 10646 characters as multibyte characters. RFC 2044. A superset of US-ASCII, can represent the full international characterset range of Unicode. See bug #214254 and http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html, or And try <lang>_<CC>.utf8 as your LANG variable. Eg: export LANG=en_US.utf8 (for a US-centric view of things). Read /usr/share/doc/groff/README.Debian to fix ... |
| 08:06.46 | tarzeau | pfortuny: it's 16 bit x86 software in your hardware roms, don't send me the f0000.rom one |
| 08:06.51 | simonrvn | unenick: ^^^^^ |
| 08:06.54 | tarzeau | pfortuny: to gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
| 08:07.07 | pfortuny | so, you want only the c file? |
| 08:07.18 | bcole | tarzeau: whats in f0000.rom? |
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| 08:08.23 | maltron | hey, does anyone have any suggestions for why I can't stop my hard drive spinning down with hdparm -S0 /dev/hda ? |
| 08:08.43 | vincenz | oy |
| 08:08.57 | vincenz | bcole: I don't quite get the layout of the package selection system |
| 08:09.08 | dave | maltron: apt-get install noflushd may help. |
| 08:09.46 | unenick | why dont u help?? |
| 08:09.48 | unenick | buuuh |
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| 08:09.56 | bcole | vincenz: in debian? |
| 08:10.00 | vincenz | yeah |
| 08:10.13 | vincenz | it's like 10 lines to choose from a zillion packags |
| 08:10.43 | bcole | vincenz: where do you see this? |
| 08:10.43 | maltron | thanks dave, but unfortunately I think I already have it: pgrad18:/home/maltron# ps -A | grep noflushd 3245 ? 00:00:00 noflushd |
| 08:10.55 | vincenz | bcole: well during installation procedure |
| 08:11.02 | vincenz | bcole: manual package selection |
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| 08:11.11 | dave | maltron: you probably need to edit the config file. |
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| 08:11.31 | dave | maltron: iirc, noflushd doesn't function until you tailor the config for your system. |
| 08:11.37 | bcole | vincenz: you dont need to isntall any extra packages at install time, its easier to wait until after install |
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| 08:11.44 | vincenz | k |
| 08:11.51 | vincenz | well I chose manuale selection |
| 08:11.55 | vincenz | just choose ok for all? |
| 08:11.57 | tarzeau | bcole: system rom |
| 08:12.06 | bcole | vincenz: choose none |
| 08:12.07 | tarzeau | bcole: your bios, but not all of it, only 64kb of it :) |
| 08:12.24 | maltron | dave: okay, lemme have a look -- it's odd though, because I never had this problem until now. Maybe it changed during an update... |
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| 08:12.34 | tarzeau | bcole: the others are scanned for and called of your bios rom which is run as first thing when you turn on your computer |
| 08:12.49 | dave | maltron: yes, upgrading a package can install a new config file. |
| 08:12.53 | bcole | tarzeau: yeah i know that much |
| 08:13.06 | bcole | tarzeau: just didnt know what f000 was |
| 08:13.17 | takatumi | vincenz: mostly just accept defaults, i.e. hit the enter key, after installation use either apt-get or aptitude, dselect or similar. |
| 08:13.54 | bcole | tarzeau: why only the first 64kb? what is stored after the first 64k? |
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| 08:14.28 | vincenz | hmm |
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| 08:14.38 | vincenz | debian doesn't have gcc 4.0? |
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| 08:15.04 | bcole | im sure unstable does |
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| 08:15.38 | bucky | vincenz, sid has it |
| 08:16.00 | vincenz | ?? |
| 08:16.30 | bcole | sid is the unstable version of debian |
| 08:16.44 | bcole | !sid |
| 08:16.44 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 08:16.47 | deconvolution | hi, after init a new machine with debian-installer, i found it did not create /dev/sda* which script i can use for re-generate a complete initial /dev directory? |
| 08:16.55 | bucky | !gcc sid |
| 08:17.08 | Bazzi | !etch |
| 08:17.08 | dpkg | [etch] the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ : <releases> |
| 08:17.10 | Bazzi | mmh. |
| 08:17.32 | takatumi | /msg the bots please. |
| 08:17.53 | vincenz | bucky: they told me to install sarge... |
| 08:17.57 | paulswm | !info gcc sid |
| 08:17.59 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-3 (sid), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 08:18.10 | takatumi | paulswm! |
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| 08:18.19 | paulswm | takatumi! |
| 08:18.28 | paulswm | !singlishsmite takatumi |
| 08:18.29 | dpkg | takatumi: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 08:18.33 | paulswm | :D |
| 08:18.34 | takatumi | heh |
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| 08:19.09 | bucky | vincenz, sarge doesn't have gcc 4.0 ...and i don't like mixing compilers so i wouldn't tell you to run mixed packages |
| 08:19.40 | bucky | vincenz, who has gcc 4.0 now... fc4 ? |
| 08:19.40 | bcole | vincenz: what does gcc4 have that gcc3 doesnt? |
| 08:19.49 | vincenz | I got gcc 4.0 on mdk |
| 08:19.50 | tarzeau | bcole: because the system bios has only a 64kb window |
| 08:19.57 | vincenz | actually never mind |
| 08:19.59 | vincenz | it's 3.4 |
| 08:19.59 | tarzeau | bcole: but these days is usally 2x or 4x as large |
| 08:20.04 | vincenz | I got 4.0 at work |
| 08:20.12 | tarzeau | bcole: and i'd need to map the memory window, but don't know how.... |
| 08:20.12 | vincenz | which I think is fc3 |
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| 08:20.25 | vincenz | bcole: I thought gcc4.0 had better template support |
| 08:20.25 | tarzeau | bcole: i doubt it's possible in protected mode |
| 08:20.34 | cantona | how to pronoun "etch" |
| 08:20.55 | bcole | etch-a-sketch |
| 08:21.20 | bcole | debian uses toy story names if you havent noticed |
| 08:21.26 | takatumi | vincenz: what is the machine for? |
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| 08:22.45 | tarzeau | bcole: do we know which toy story toys aren't used in releases yet? |
| 08:22.52 | tarzeau | i couldn't find a list of them all at imbd.com |
| 08:23.12 | bcole | tarzeau: lemme look |
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| 08:23.35 | tarzeau | pfortuny: you'll send me some roms? |
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| 08:23.55 | cantona | is it legal? story copyright.... |
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| 08:24.13 | tarzeau | cantona: of course it's not legal, but nobody is going to enforce this |
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| 08:24.56 | maltron | vincenz: you could always just download a different gcc from the gcc website, then just build it in your home directory to keep it separate. I managed to compile mplayer like that on a system that had gcc 2.96, which mplayer hates. |
| 08:25.09 | bcole | that would be funny, debian getting a lawsuit from pixar |
| 08:25.31 | tarzeau | cantona: ahh you mean the toy story toy names |
| 08:25.38 | tarzeau | bcole: i doubt |
| 08:25.52 | bcole | tarzeau: i know, i was just laughing at the fact |
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| 08:26.15 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 08:26.15 | dpkg | hmm... debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 08:26.18 | verden01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.27 | verden01 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:26.41 | tarzeau | Guerin, abrotman: i'm catching up |
| 08:26.59 | tarzeau | verden01: i don't think this is possible, or have you seen this somewhere? |
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| 08:27.10 | verden01 | with kubuntu |
| 08:27.21 | tarzeau | !debian based |
| 08:27.21 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
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| 08:27.58 | tarzeau | verden01: honey, are you in #kubuntu now? |
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| 08:28.10 | verden01 | no i'm in Libranet |
| 08:28.36 | tarzeau | !topicbadger verden01 |
| 08:28.36 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that verden01 didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 08:29.09 | verden01 | ok libranet is debain sarge aminly |
| 08:29.15 | verden01 | mainly |
| 08:29.21 | tarzeau | !libranet |
| 08:29.21 | dpkg | from memory, libranet is a Debian based distribution that includes many enhancements such as: updated packages, including GNOME, KDE, XFree86, reiserfs, etc., a fast, easy install and, a preconfigured desktop. More information at the Libranet homepage: http://libranet.com, or non-free; read the license on their CD images carefully (if you think it's GPL, you're reading the wrong thing), or there is/was a channel #libranet, but it may be dead |
| 08:29.33 | takatumi | !badgerknoppix |
| 08:29.33 | dpkg | Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Ubuntu Ubuntu Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix A MEPIS! A MEPIS! |
| 08:29.41 | tarzeau | verden01: if you want support here, you have to install debian |
| 08:29.52 | tarzeau | verden01: honey, can we spell debian? |
| 08:29.58 | bucky | Does Pixar and Industrial Light and Magic use Debian? |
| 08:30.08 | verden01 | cool :-) |
| 08:30.17 | verden01 | damm keyboard |
| 08:30.24 | bcole | toy story was rendered on sparcs |
| 08:30.51 | tarzeau | bcole: and software on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP was used too! |
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| 08:31.17 | verden01 | hey don't be so harsh on a newcomer |
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| 08:31.47 | mackel | hello |
| 08:31.52 | mackel | Marcel sweden here |
| 08:31.55 | verden01 | if you want debian to flourish be nice |
| 08:31.57 | mackel | I have a strange problem witha pt-get |
| 08:32.08 | directhex|work | bucky, these days everything pixar do is mac-based, what with Steve Jobs being pixar CEO |
| 08:32.10 | tarzeau | verden01: honey, when was i not nice? |
| 08:32.30 | verden01 | you were patronising |
| 08:32.33 | verden01 | honey |
| 08:32.35 | bucky | that's what i thought.. |
| 08:33.00 | mackel | Something wicked happened resolving 'security.debian.org:http' (-3) |
| 08:33.00 | mackel | Err http://ftp.at.debian.org stable/main Sources |
| 08:33.00 | mackel | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.00 | mackel | Err http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/main Sources |
| 08:33.00 | mackel | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.00 | mackel | Err http://ftp.at.debian.org stable/main Release |
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| 08:33.16 | tarzeau | mackel: check your dns |
| 08:33.20 | directhex|work | bucky, i heard the first matrix film used a farm of BSD machines for rendering though, which is kinda cool |
| 08:33.31 | tarzeau | mackel: /etc/resolv.conf can you resolve anything? do you have a default route? |
| 08:33.47 | jm_ | mackel: and please don't flood |
| 08:33.49 | mackel | ok |
| 08:33.50 | bucky | no doubt |
| 08:33.54 | bcole | pixar says a single frame takes around 6 horus for them to render |
| 08:34.17 | bcole | they need some new hardware :) |
| 08:34.27 | maltron | directhex|work: didn't disney use a custom photoshop setup running on linux machines? |
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| 08:34.42 | tarzeau | !disney |
| 08:34.42 | dpkg | well, disney is EVIL |
| 08:34.54 | bucky | or Render@Home |
| 08:35.01 | paulswm | !factinfo disney |
| 08:35.02 | dpkg | disney -- created by deego <deego@z.glue.umd.edu> at Sun Jul 28 21:30:23 2002 (1040 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by tarzeau, 19s ago. |
| 08:35.24 | maltron | why, because Walt was a nazi sympathiser or something? |
| 08:35.49 | directhex|work | maltron, you'd need to ask paulswm about what disney get up to |
| 08:35.58 | paulswm | Not me |
| 08:35.59 | maltron | i have no idea, I only heard it from someone |
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| 08:36.17 | bucky | Walt struck me as a nazi to work for |
| 08:36.18 | tarzeau | paulswm: are you a mickey mouse fan? |
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| 08:36.41 | maltron | so, dpkg, why is disney evil? |
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| 08:37.05 | bucky | because disney is an evil bot.. just like dpkg |
| 08:37.13 | sadrak|work | hossa :) |
| 08:37.19 | sadrak|work | one new problem :) |
| 08:37.20 | bcole | i hate those evil bots |
| 08:37.23 | mackel | I run debian om xbox - in there there is a directory that is /etc and /xboxlocal/etc |
| 08:37.29 | mackel | what differnece is it= |
| 08:37.31 | paulswm | tarzeau: Of course. |
| 08:37.38 | directhex|work | mackel, there is no debian for xbox. if you mean xebian, ask their channel |
| 08:37.45 | bucky | bcole, i want those evil bots overthrown |
| 08:38.04 | maltron | so, paulswm, why did you stongly object to that factoid? |
| 08:38.05 | sadrak|work | want to use the kernel 2.6.11 from SID on my poweredge 1425SC (SCSI with ext2) |
| 08:38.12 | mackel | ok |
| 08:38.13 | sadrak|work | but there is a kernel panic :/ |
| 08:38.35 | sadrak|work | Kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root fs |
| 08:39.02 | directhex|work | sadrak|work, debian's 2.6.11 kernel might not support the SCSI controller |
| 08:39.03 | paulswm | maltron: becuase it's stupid. |
| 08:39.05 | snowc | Is there any documentation anywhere on best practice administration of debian servers? I.e. things like change control - logging updates, etc... |
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| 08:39.19 | sadrak|work | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,2) |
| 08:39.26 | mackel | found the problem thanku every one and hundred flowers to everyone !! |
| 08:39.27 | maltron | paulswm: it wasn't meant to be |
| 08:39.29 | tarzeau | snowc: read harden-doc |
| 08:39.32 | tarzeau | !harden-doc |
| 08:39.32 | sadrak|work | oh |
| 08:39.32 | dpkg | well, harden-doc is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html#contents |
| 08:39.50 | maltron | paulswm: someone said that they're evil, and I have heard something along those lines |
| 08:39.53 | simonrvn | tarzeau: dude! :) |
| 08:39.55 | sadrak|work | how can i check that? i read that my controller is in 2.6.10 |
| 08:40.01 | tarzeau | simonrvn: what's up? |
| 08:40.05 | jethro | hi tarzeau / simonrvn |
| 08:40.07 | sadrak|work | (and i hope in 2.6.11 too *g*) |
| 08:40.13 | simonrvn | tarzeau: doing ok, saying hi |
| 08:40.15 | tarzeau | bob2, jethro, helix hi |
| 08:40.17 | simonrvn | jethro: hiya |
| 08:40.22 | tarzeau | streuner_: moo |
| 08:40.34 | tarzeau | simonrvn: supertransball2 got into sid :) |
| 08:40.43 | paulswm | maltron: It's difficult to see how the statement "disney is EVIL" is anything but childishly stupid. |
| 08:40.45 | simonrvn | bob2, helix, streuner_ aah, the list is long: hi :) |
| 08:40.45 | directhex|work | supertransball2? |
| 08:40.52 | tarzeau | directhex|work: best. game. ever. |
| 08:41.01 | simonrvn | tarzeau: neat. never played it. what is it? |
| 08:41.06 | simonrvn | heh |
| 08:41.23 | tarzeau | simonrvn: some little space ship you guide through caverns to rescue teh BLUE BALL! |
| 08:41.30 | simonrvn | paulswm: well, it isn't when you get into it, it does a nice summation |
| 08:41.42 | simonrvn | oooh, the BLUE BALL! |
| 08:41.48 | snowc | thanks - i've seen the harden-doc before, I think I'm after something a little different... |
| 08:41.51 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 08:41.56 | maltron | paulswm: depends who says it, though. I know people who say mcdonalds is evil, and wrong or right I know why they say it |
| 08:41.59 | tarzeau | heh :) |
| 08:42.13 | simonrvn | oh, the poor spammer got refused connection. oooh, too bad |
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| 08:42.54 | bucky | maltron, think about it... if you were six year old and confronted by a 9 foot tall mouse.. wouldn't you be scared? |
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| 08:43.32 | maltron | hehe |
| 08:43.48 | directhex|work | !info supertransball2 |
| 08:43.51 | paulswm | !disney |
| 08:43.51 | dpkg | disney is probably The Walt Disney Company |
| 08:44.01 | directhex|work | <dpkg> Package 'supertransball2' does not exist. |
| 08:44.06 | directhex|work | !stab tarzeau |
| 08:44.33 | bucky | nitey |
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| 08:45.06 | Gawaine | Hi |
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| 08:46.31 | adrian__ | Hi everybody |
| 08:46.45 | vincenz | what is exim |
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| 08:46.49 | directhex|work | a mail server |
| 08:46.51 | bcole | vincenz: MTA |
| 08:46.57 | vincenz | mta? |
| 08:46.58 | tarzeau | directhex|work: it's in buildd.debian.org |
| 08:47.09 | bcole | vincenz: Mail Transfer Agent |
| 08:47.12 | tarzeau | directhex|work: if you can't wait you gamer addict, here gnu.ethz.ch/debian/supertransball2/ :) |
| 08:47.13 | vincenz | ah |
| 08:47.27 | directhex|work | tarzeau, if it's not built for amd64, not interested |
| 08:47.43 | tarzeau | directhex|work: check incoming.d.o |
| 08:48.00 | Shay | lol @ buildd "maybe succesful" |
| 08:48.11 | tarzeau | directhex|work: oh wait only ia64 there |
| 08:48.12 | Gawaine | does anyone know why if i create an initrd image, this try to mount devfs at boot ? |
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| 08:49.02 | adrian__ | someone here knows a good course online? about mastering debian, i search someting like there's some in redhat |
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| 08:50.08 | tarzeau | adrian__: www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 08:50.13 | tarzeau | !faq |
| 08:50.14 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 08:50.15 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 08:50.15 | dpkg | sid faq is, like, http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 08:50.30 | directhex|work | tarzeau, like more than four people use ia64 by choice, barring SGI and HP employees |
| 08:50.30 | paulswm | adrian__: The Debian Reference Manual is a good place to start, there are some tutorials and tips in there. |
| 08:50.45 | tarzeau | directhex|work: why not just debuild it yourself? |
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| 08:51.34 | takatumi | tarzeau: how can I add a deb line for http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/ in sources.list? |
| 08:51.44 | adrian__ | thanks a lot tarzeau, im stupid, haha it was easy, so im gonna start to study right now and free, im beginner yet. see you, thanks. |
| 08:51.57 | pfortuny | for those interested: remove hpa in an ide: www.sleuthkit.org |
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| 08:52.01 | jethro | takatumi: with vim :p |
| 08:52.16 | bcole | pfortuny: grats |
| 08:52.26 | tarzeau | takatumi: telnet linuks.mine.nu |
| 08:52.30 | tarzeau | takatumi: see the comment |
| 08:52.46 | adrian__ | paulswm tanks a lot too. |
| 08:52.48 | directhex|work | tarzeau, laziness? give me a build-dep list & i'll consider it |
| 08:52.48 | tarzeau | pfortuny: cool, teach dpkg |
| 08:52.50 | tarzeau | dpkg hpa |
| 08:52.50 | dpkg | HPA is defined as a reserved area for data storage outside the normal operating file system. This area is hidden from the operating system and the file system, and is normally used for specialized applications. Systems may wish to store configuration data or to save memory to the hard disk drive device in a location that the operating systems cannot change. |
| 08:52.59 | tarzeau | dpkg hpa is also www.sleuthkit.org |
| 08:53.00 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 08:53.09 | pfortuny | dpkg hpa |
| 08:53.09 | dpkg | HPA is defined as a reserved area for data storage outside the normal operating file system. This area is hidden from the operating system and the file system, and is normally used for specialized applications. Systems may wish to store configuration data or to save memory to the hard disk drive device in a location that the operating systems cannot change. http://www.sleuthkit.org |
| 08:53.28 | pfortuny | great thing. |
| 08:53.30 | tarzeau | pfortuny: is that packaged for debian? |
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| 08:54.02 | pfortuny | does not look like, but it is well packaged |
| 08:54.06 | pfortuny | compiled out of the box |
| 08:54.26 | bcole | pfortuny: how did you come across this? |
| 08:54.33 | pfortuny | there are gentoo and rpms |
| 08:54.41 | pfortuny | I searched "remove hpa linux" |
| 08:54.49 | pfortuny | it was the only search I did not do |
| 08:55.05 | pfortuny | sorry, "removing hpa disk" |
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| 08:55.46 | takatumi | tarzeau: deb-src http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian/ ./ (this one?) |
| 08:55.59 | tarzeau | takatumi: yeah, that's for source packages |
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| 08:56.15 | tarzeau | takatumi: i only build on powerpc at home, or i386 at work. prefereably you only want my source packages |
| 08:56.21 | tarzeau | review them and build them yourself |
| 08:56.31 | jethro | why would screen screw up my terms like this > http://www.rhbrecords.com/~jethro/fraff.jpg |
| 08:56.45 | bcole | pfortuny: which tool did you use exactly? |
| 08:56.51 | tarzeau | jethro: try ctrl-a F |
| 08:57.01 | tarzeau | jethro: because you resized your terminal |
| 08:57.02 | bcole | pfortuny: disk_stat? |
| 08:57.11 | tarzeau | jethro: and the program inside doesn't know |
| 08:57.11 | jethro | tarzeau: no it's when I open more than 10 |
| 08:57.13 | pfortuny | disk_sreset |
| 08:57.21 | tarzeau | jethro: what terminal is that? |
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| 08:57.33 | jethro | tarzeau: either xterm , or putty when I m from windows |
| 08:57.43 | tarzeau | jethro: hm |
| 08:57.47 | jethro | tarzeau: the screenshot is xterm though |
| 08:57.47 | pfortuny | but... looks like it does not remove it completely or sth like that... |
| 08:57.53 | mackel | what is the best remote package ? |
| 08:57.56 | pfortuny | I'll have to dig deeper |
| 08:57.59 | tarzeau | mackel: ssh |
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| 08:58.08 | mackel | but graphic... |
| 08:58.13 | pfortuny | "disk_sreset only changes this temporarily" |
| 08:58.18 | tarzeau | mackel: telnet |
| 08:58.20 | caoilte | where can i find information on why xserver hasn't been starting since a reboot? syslog just says "server unexpectedly died" |
| 08:58.20 | jethro | tarzeau: I ll man ctrl-a F, thanks for the pointer |
| 08:58.23 | aristocrat | Any chance that anyone has a postgresql-8.0.x for debian? :) |
| 08:58.25 | tarzeau | jethro: it helps? |
| 08:58.36 | mackel | telnet -- ha - well i know telnet is very old - and unsecure man |
| 08:58.38 | tarzeau | aristocrat: packages.d.o doesn't? |
| 08:58.41 | jethro | tarzeau: I ll try, I m not bugged at the moment, I ll reproduce,n and try it |
| 08:58.45 | takatumi | tarzeau: for a P4 should I get the source or just i386? would it matter? |
| 08:58.51 | mackel | marcel.ing-steen.se/tvstation btw |
| 08:58.51 | tarzeau | mackel: my telnet is new, and it's not unsecure |
| 08:58.59 | tarzeau | mackel: it's just not encrypting traffic |
| 08:59.00 | at0m|c | mackel: telnet can use ssh too |
| 08:59.02 | jethro | tarzeau: no it doesn't |
| 08:59.07 | tarzeau | takatumi: no doesn't matter, get i386 |
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| 08:59.28 | themolester | which package has "ip" |
| 08:59.31 | jethro | !irritate hi nicodein |
| 08:59.32 | dpkg | hi nicodein: wenas who uses dvd thx |
| 08:59.49 | aristocrat | tarzeau, could you rephrase? cause i didnt get what you said |
| 08:59.50 | takatumi | tarzeau: ok, cheers. |
| 09:00.00 | paulswm | tarzeau: postgresql 8.0 isn't in debian |
| 09:00.08 | tarzeau | paulswm: not even in experimental? |
| 09:00.16 | jethro | !lart screen for all this green mess |
| 09:00.24 | aristocrat | tarzeau, by my investigation, i founf no postgresql-8.0.x deb pack, but maybe you guys know better. |
| 09:00.40 | tarzeau | paulswm: it is |
| 09:00.47 | tarzeau | aristocrat: http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 09:01.04 | tarzeau | aristocrat: i can see 8.0 debian packages. |
| 09:01.24 | aristocrat | tarzeau, really? i must be damned :).. |
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| 09:01.53 | tarzeau | !experimental |
| 09:01.54 | dpkg | experimental is the bloody edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. |
| 09:02.01 | paulswm | tarzeau: esperimental is 7.5.2 |
| 09:02.08 | tarzeau | aristocrat: do you know exactly what you are doing? |
| 09:02.13 | paulswm | tarzeau: nm, I see it |
| 09:02.14 | tarzeau | paulswm: damn, let me search again |
| 09:02.27 | paulswm | tarzeau: my mistake, sorry |
| 09:03.04 | paulswm | postgresql-8.0 in experimental |
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| 09:03.24 | aristocrat | how bad is "experimental" really? i better think again. |
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| 09:03.38 | tarzeau | aristocrat: it's fine |
| 09:03.41 | Gawaine | is there the possibility in debian to create an initramfs image instead of an initrd image ? |
| 09:03.49 | tarzeau | aristocrat: the question is: how bad is aristocrat? |
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| 09:04.15 | spdf | aristocrat, It's "experimental", what do you expect? Its going to break once in awhile.. |
| 09:04.29 | paulswm | aristocrat: it is what it says, experimental, higher risk of breakage |
| 09:04.37 | bcole | anyone know of a tool to send a ATA command to a hd? |
| 09:04.37 | aristocrat | tarzeau, really bad? :) break is no problem, here to fix :) |
| 09:04.59 | tarzeau | aristocrat: that's fine then. but i would'nt take any gnome, kde, php stuff from experimental (or anywhere, actually) |
| 09:05.09 | tarzeau | bcole: hdparm? sleuthkit? |
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| 09:05.28 | paulswm | aristocrat: note: "Note that the "experimental" distribution is not self-contained; missing dependencies are likely found in the "unstable" distribution." |
| 09:05.29 | tarzeau | paulswm: maybe it depends how much of a sadist the maintainer of the pkg is? |
| 09:05.32 | aristocrat | tarzeau, noted. |
| 09:05.49 | bcole | tarzeau: ive been doing more research on that HPA problem |
| 09:06.02 | paulswm | And of course unstable is, erm, unstable :P |
| 09:06.23 | jethro | !unstable |
| 09:06.24 | dpkg | it has been said that unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. See testing. see sid |
| 09:06.26 | paulswm | tarzeau: And how much of a masochist the user of experimental packages is :P |
| 09:06.45 | tarzeau | paulswm: true |
| 09:06.56 | jethro | true masochist install gentoo |
| 09:07.03 | tarzeau | jethro: and kde! |
| 09:07.06 | jethro | and keep running it |
| 09:07.06 | liable | or windows |
| 09:07.09 | jethro | tarzeau: of course |
| 09:07.15 | jethro | liable: windows is not as painfull as gentoo :) |
| 09:07.17 | directhex|work | apt-get install gentoo |
| 09:07.26 | paulswm | !qotd77 |
| 09:07.26 | dpkg | i heard qotd77 is <bullet> woohoo here goes dist-upgrade.. this seems so fast after doing an emerge world -e in gentoo |
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| 09:07.49 | jethro | paulswm: I didn't have the opportunity to emerge world *yet* :) |
| 09:07.54 | paulswm | Heh |
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| 09:08.16 | jethro | I m wondering if it was a good idea in the end. |
| 09:08.25 | takatumi | tarzeau: an apt-cache search supertransball2 (found nothing) |
| 09:08.56 | tosh | any way of configuring a linux box with two NICs with iptables and make it an inline transparent firewall? |
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| 09:09.16 | jethro | tosh: a bridge/firewall ? |
| 09:09.42 | jethro | tosh: this is possible, see the netfilter documentation on netfilter.org |
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| 09:10.27 | tarzeau | takatumi: yes debian is slow, get it from gnu.ethz.ch/debian/supertransball2/ |
| 09:10.55 | pfortuny | tarzeau, http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/setmax.c does the job... I hope |
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| 09:11.06 | drac | Shay: In Linux? Is that new legacy open source? |
| 09:11.29 | tosh | jethro okay, that was the first part of my question, second part is, would it be possible to do inline antivirus and antispam as well? like redirect the port to a virusscanner, scan the incoming mail |
| 09:11.38 | tarzeau | pfortuny: very cool, let's add this to hpa |
| 09:11.41 | jethro | tosh: yes |
| 09:11.43 | tarzeau | dpkg hpa is also http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/setmax.c |
| 09:11.43 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 09:11.44 | tosh | jethro the problem is the handling of the mail after it has been scanned... have to do mailrouting |
| 09:11.52 | jethro | tosh: and yes |
| 09:11.54 | pfortuny | Ok, I forgot that command "is also" |
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| 09:12.30 | jethro | tosh: all you want to do is possible. now it's time you read some documentation :) I wouldn't do inline virusscan tho. |
| 09:12.39 | tosh | jethro why not? |
| 09:12.59 | llama32 | i know this has nothing whatsoever to do with debian or even linux, but anyone know where i can find info about RISCOS? ive never used it before, but i want to find out everything i can about it (coding for it, low level stuff, etc.)) |
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| 09:13.08 | jethro | tosh: to avoid handling the mailrouting, I ll just do virusscanning on the MTA |
| 09:13.08 | Garp | Hi. |
| 09:13.22 | tosh | jethro not an option, it has to be inline |
| 09:13.22 | jethro | s/ll/d/ |
| 09:13.27 | jethro | tosh: do it then |
| 09:13.34 | Shay | drac: ? |
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| 09:13.41 | jethro | tosh: I was just giving my 2 cents |
| 09:13.43 | Garp | Question: If i have several entries in sources.list, how can I know which cache provides a given package? Thanks. |
| 09:13.56 | directhex|work | Garp, apt-cache policy |
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| 09:14.04 | Garp | directhex|work : thanks. |
| 09:14.33 | directhex|work | Garp, the mirror with the higher number on the left (e.g. 990) is the one you'll use by default |
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| 09:16.07 | Garp | directhex|work : THe name for the mirror seems cryptic to me (as retiurned by the command) it's not an URL ? |
| 09:16.34 | tarzeau | ouf an apt-get update wants 5 mb (sid binary+source) |
| 09:16.37 | jm_ | ehh? it says http://foo or ftp://bar |
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| 09:17.29 | Garp | OK, sorry :-) |
| 09:17.32 | Garp | Thanks for the help. |
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| 09:18.51 | bcole | pfortuny: you still there? |
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| 09:18.57 | pfortuny | yep |
| 09:19.11 | bcole | you said the drive was maxed at around 33gb? |
| 09:19.15 | pfortuny | yes |
| 09:19.30 | pfortuny | 33.8 |
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| 09:19.44 | pfortuny | 16heads, 63sectors/tr ,65531 cyl |
| 09:19.45 | Garp | (bye) |
| 09:19.46 | bcole | some ibm, maxtor and seagate disks include a 33.8gb limit jumper |
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| 09:19.55 | pfortuny | mmmhhhhh |
| 09:20.10 | pfortuny | is it safe do disconnect a hd while the computer is on? |
| 09:20.19 | pfortuny | (the drive is unused now) |
| 09:20.27 | pfortuny | and the computer is a server |
| 09:20.35 | bcole | i have done it before, though i dont know if its technically safe |
| 09:20.38 | streuner_ | bcole: for what should be a jumper good for? |
| 09:21.05 | pfortuny | so I first unplug the power and then the IDE? |
| 09:21.15 | pfortuny | well, I'd rather wait till no one is using it... |
| 09:21.28 | pfortuny | thanks for the info, bcole |
| 09:21.42 | bcole | pfortuny: if the jumper is not set, i have come across other information |
| 09:21.47 | pfortuny | aha? |
| 09:21.57 | pfortuny | give me a minute |
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| 09:22.50 | directhex|work | pfortuny, IDE is _NOT_ hotpluggable, though some plug-in disk controllers attempt to add support for it |
| 09:23.06 | tarzeau | don't think it's safe |
| 09:23.14 | tarzeau | but hdparm -Y /dev/hda can turn the motor off |
| 09:23.21 | tarzeau | it's probably smart to umount the disk first |
| 09:23.24 | tarzeau | so it doesn't spin back on |
| 09:23.26 | egg | SCSI is |
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| 09:23.28 | bcole | pfortuny: HPA is done by SET_MAX_ADDRESS ATA command, the ata command has a volatile bit, if its set the setting will carry on after reset, the sluethkit program does not set that bit which is why after reboot the drive will seem teh same |
| 09:23.46 | tarzeau | pfortuny: first turn the motor off |
| 09:23.51 | tarzeau | egg: we know |
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| 09:24.48 | directhex|work | SATA is also. |
| 09:24.49 | egg | tarzeau: it will |
| 09:24.51 | vincenz | How do you turn off the fucknig bell |
| 09:24.52 | directhex|work | and USB ;) |
| 09:24.55 | vincenz | its really loud |
| 09:24.57 | directhex|work | !bell |
| 09:24.57 | egg | tarzeau: I am sure |
| 09:24.57 | dpkg | bell is, like, "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. |
| 09:25.09 | tarzeau | egg: yes i just said we know |
| 09:25.31 | egg | tarzeau: it will spin up |
| 09:25.35 | vincenz | ah thanks |
| 09:25.44 | tarzeau | egg: ide disks? |
| 09:25.45 | vincenz | anyways.... it won't start x |
| 09:25.51 | egg | mmm |
| 09:25.58 | egg | in my box |
| 09:26.09 | vincenz | no screens foudn |
| 09:26.54 | egg | hdparm -y -> mount it -> spin up |
| 09:27.06 | vincenz | anyone know how to fix this? |
| 09:27.18 | jethro | !no screens found |
| 09:27.18 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 09:27.23 | jethro | vincenz: ^^ |
| 09:27.26 | tarzeau | egg: -Y |
| 09:27.29 | tarzeau | egg: not -y |
| 09:27.36 | egg | ? |
| 09:27.40 | tarzeau | egg: and you need to tell it which disk /dev/hda for example |
| 09:27.46 | vincenz | !no devices detected |
| 09:27.47 | tarzeau | egg: hdparm -Y is not the same like hdparm -y |
| 09:28.00 | pfortuny | bcole, SH*T: "slave+capacity >=32Gb+size limit" |
| 09:28.05 | pfortuny | I've seen the jumpers |
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| 09:28.11 | vincenz | !troubleshooting x |
| 09:28.11 | dpkg | To troubleshoot a problem with X, first look in /var/log/XFree86.0.log and find out what the problem is - look for the first lines starting with (EE). Then use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" to fix it. Ask me about "x md5sum" |
| 09:28.36 | bcole | pfortuny: so the jumper isnt set? |
| 09:28.44 | pfortuny | it is |
| 09:28.53 | egg | tarzeau: what's difference (RTFM...) |
| 09:28.55 | jethro | vincenz: you can /msg the bot as well |
| 09:29.03 | vincenz | thx |
| 09:29.08 | pfortuny | I think it means: this disk is >32Gb but it has capacity limit set |
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| 09:29.14 | pfortuny | but you may have more info... |
| 09:29.14 | jethro | !thx |
| 09:29.14 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. |
| 09:29.20 | vincenz | how do you find the video card bus identifier |
| 09:29.27 | tarzeau | egg: man hdparm |
| 09:29.27 | bcole | what brand drive pfortuny? |
| 09:29.38 | tarzeau | bcole: samsung |
| 09:29.40 | nevyn | vincenz: do you have more than one video card? |
| 09:29.44 | vincenz | no |
| 09:29.44 | Gnea | vincenz: lspci |
| 09:29.59 | pfortuny | samsung Sp6003h |
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| 09:30.13 | Gnea | lspci | grep VGA | awk '{print $1}' |
| 09:30.15 | Gnea | specifically |
| 09:30.22 | pfortuny | in theory 60Gb (well, it does have enough space, according to dmesg) |
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| 09:30.32 | vincenz | thc |
| 09:30.50 | jethro | !thc |
| 09:30.50 | dpkg | thc is probably delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in marijuana, or delta-7 is also thc but isn't heated yet |
| 09:30.54 | bcole | pfortuny: do you know the model? |
| 09:31.01 | Gnea | heh |
| 09:31.04 | pfortuny | wait a minute |
| 09:31.35 | egg | I use hdparm -Y .... |
| 09:31.41 | egg | and mount it |
| 09:31.52 | tarzeau | egg: what are you trying to do? |
| 09:31.53 | egg | it is alive |
| 09:31.59 | egg | mount |
| 09:32.04 | Gnea | hrm |
| 09:32.08 | egg | it works |
| 09:32.11 | tarzeau | egg: you did hotplug an ide harddisk? |
| 09:32.23 | egg | no |
| 09:32.35 | Gnea | egg: sorry, but i gotta ask... |
| 09:32.42 | Gnea | egg: have you ever been cracked? :) |
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| 09:32.56 | egg | what what? |
| 09:33.03 | jethro | gnea :) |
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| 09:33.06 | Gnea | nevermind, silly question :) |
| 09:33.32 | egg | crack a egg? |
| 09:33.36 | Gnea | lol |
| 09:33.42 | egg | s/s/an |
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| 09:34.27 | Gnea | egg: i meant that more in the sense of system security.. makes for good running humor |
| 09:35.09 | egg | ... too far for me |
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| 09:35.25 | Gnea | but the next time you see a carton of eggs at the store you'll never think about them the same again... |
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| 09:35.42 | dj1 | When cron runs a user's crontab, does it execute as that user, or as root? |
| 09:35.49 | Gnea | as user |
| 09:35.56 | dj1 | Thanks. |
| 09:35.57 | Gnea | only root's crontab gets run as root |
| 09:35.59 | Gnea | np |
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| 09:36.29 | egg | setuid? |
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| 09:37.35 | pfortuny | bcore, here I am, sorry |
| 09:37.37 | dj1 | I'm running a cron job what uses wget to retrieve a number of files using globing, but it appears the temporary .listing file is deleted so it can't do the glob correctly. The man pages say that wget will delete the .listing file under certain circumstances, but this situation doesn't appear to follow. Any suggestions? |
| 09:38.14 | Gnea | dj1: when does it delete .listing? |
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| 09:38.24 | dj1 | Gnea: Before it does the glob. |
| 09:38.39 | Gnea | so... |
| 09:38.49 | dj1 | But I don't know why it does. |
| 09:38.56 | dj1 | It's an internal wget thing. |
| 09:38.57 | Gnea | hrm |
| 09:39.20 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.34 | Gnea | that was from wget --help |
| 09:39.35 | Gnea | :) |
| 09:40.17 | dj1 | Gnea: Thank you, you've just saved my weekend. :) |
| 09:40.21 | Gnea | s'alright, we all learn how to RTFM now and then :) |
| 09:40.32 | dj1 | Hehe |
| 09:40.36 | dj1 | Cheeky sod |
| 09:40.37 | dj1 | :P |
| 09:40.55 | Gnea | heh |
| 09:41.04 | Gnea | that's right |
| 09:41.09 | pfortuny | bcole, I'm back |
| 09:41.15 | Gnea | my face has cheeks |
| 09:41.16 | dj1 | Works perfectly. Many thanks. |
| 09:41.22 | Gnea | :) |
| 09:41.40 | dj1 | Bye |
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| 09:41.45 | bcole | pfortuny: check out http://bcole.org/samsung.gif |
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| 09:43.35 | paulbronxny | how do i know if my system is i386 or x86_64 |
| 09:43.39 | pfortuny | now, I guess I have to put it without the "32GB Clip pin setting"? |
| 09:43.48 | bcole | paulbronxny: i386 |
| 09:43.57 | paulbronxny | hey bcole |
| 09:44.00 | bcole | pfortuny: yup |
| 09:44.00 | paulbronxny | u sure? |
| 09:44.05 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, what processor is it? |
| 09:44.09 | pfortuny | can I do it while power is on? |
| 09:44.12 | pfortuny | *fear* |
| 09:44.14 | paulbronxny | pent 4 |
| 09:44.21 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, how recent? |
| 09:44.21 | paulbronxny | win xp home edition |
| 09:44.27 | bcole | pfortuny: i wouldnt try lol |
| 09:44.36 | paulbronxny | dell desktop 8200 dimention |
| 09:44.47 | pfortuny | OK, I'm trying wait for me. |
| 09:44.51 | bcole | ill be here |
| 09:44.57 | paulbronxny | bcole |
| 09:45.04 | paulbronxny | i tried the install again |
| 09:45.08 | bcole | isnt x86_64 a 64 bit proc? |
| 09:45.09 | paulbronxny | from scratch |
| 09:45.13 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, it's i386. |
| 09:45.17 | bcole | paulbronxny: how did it go? |
| 09:45.36 | paulbronxny | got fucked again all the way at the end this time |
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| 09:45.46 | bcole | what happened? |
| 09:45.58 | paulbronxny | so i was wondering if maybe i was downloadin the wrong instruction set |
| 09:46.02 | paulbronxny | thats y i asked |
| 09:46.04 | leoster | is azureus a good bt client for debian? |
| 09:46.06 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, it's i386. |
| 09:46.16 | directhex|work | leoster, no, because it wants sun's non-free java |
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| 09:46.36 | leoster | directhex|work: so what do you use? |
| 09:46.51 | directhex|work | leoster, i don't use bittorrent on my linux machines |
| 09:46.57 | CE-RRIE-BLOSSOM | #yogyakarta |
| 09:46.57 | paulbronxny | so i once again reformatted partition |
| 09:47.08 | paulbronxny | and fdisked entire hd |
| 09:47.17 | paulbronxny | tired of playin games |
| 09:47.22 | bcole | paulbronxny: what happened at the end? |
| 09:47.22 | paulbronxny | it doesnt like my system |
| 09:47.25 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, what debian install cd have you been using? |
| 09:47.31 | paulbronxny | said fail fail fail |
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| 09:47.33 | leoster | who know a good bittorrent client for debian? |
| 09:47.36 | blahdeblah | Hi all, what are some suggested apps for video capture from a Zoran card? |
| 09:47.37 | CE-RRIE-BLOSSOM | #jakarta |
| 09:47.38 | paulbronxny | alll the way at the end |
| 09:47.48 | paulbronxny | install 3.0 |
| 09:47.57 | paulbronxny | never again |
| 09:48.15 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, that would be correct, see, debian 3.0 doesn't work on anything more recent than EINAC |
| 09:48.20 | directhex|work | !d-i paulbronxny |
| 09:48.21 | dpkg | paulbronxny, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 09:48.25 | bcole | paulbronxny: it literally said "fail fail fail" |
| 09:48.39 | paulbronxny | no |
| 09:48.43 | paulbronxny | but u get my point |
| 09:48.49 | paulbronxny | error |
| 09:48.50 | paulbronxny | fail |
| 09:48.51 | bcole | well what happened then? |
| 09:48.52 | pfortuny | bcole, success. |
| 09:48.52 | leoster | is there anyone using bittorrent in debian? |
| 09:48.57 | bcole | pfortuny: congrats |
| 09:49.01 | pfortuny | thanks very much |
| 09:49.06 | pfortuny | however |
| 09:49.07 | directhex|work | leoster, what's so bloody hard about "apt-cache search bittorrent client"? |
| 09:49.08 | paulbronxny | its fucked and its makin me feel stupid |
| 09:49.16 | paulbronxny | i usually have no problem with these installs |
| 09:49.18 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, have you installed 3.1 yet? |
| 09:49.21 | paulbronxny | fuck this shit motherfucker |
| 09:49.27 | paulbronxny | no |
| 09:49.29 | pfortuny | hdd: Host Protected Area detected |
| 09:49.33 | Gnea | bcole: what is riot? a mud? |
| 09:49.40 | pfortuny | current capacity (...) 60Gb |
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| 09:49.46 | pfortuny | native capacity: 60Gb |
| 09:49.51 | paulbronxny | I am lookin at Ubuntu |
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| 09:50.06 | bcole | Gnea: its a linkshell(clan) for ffxi |
| 09:50.12 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, because you don't like the url to 3.1 i linked above? |
| 09:50.14 | paulbronxny | anyone care to comment on this distribution |
| 09:50.21 | paulbronxny | i am discouraged |
| 09:50.24 | leoster | directhex|work: sorry, i am a debian newbie, i didn't know that |
| 09:50.25 | paulbronxny | with debian |
| 09:50.32 | paulbronxny | spent many hours |
| 09:50.33 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, variable |
| 09:50.42 | pfortuny | I think I have mixed two successes in one: setmax and the jumpers |
| 09:50.49 | paulbronxny | variable? |
| 09:50.50 | Gnea | bcole: oh cool, i never played that version... got to 9 and kinda said "they'll never be the same..." |
| 09:50.53 | pfortuny | dpkg hpa |
| 09:50.53 | dpkg | HPA is defined as a reserved area for data storage outside the normal operating file system. This area is hidden from the operating system and the file system, and is normally used for specialized applications. Systems may wish to store configuration data or to save memory to the hard disk drive device in a location that the operating systems cannot change. http://www.sleuthkit.org, or http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/setmax.c |
| 09:50.56 | leoster | directhex|work: i got error in apt-get update |
| 09:50.59 | TinoW | paulbronxny: which? Debian or Ubuntu? |
| 09:51.13 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, ubuntu is good in some scenarios. i'd use debian 3.1 by preferance |
| 09:51.17 | bcole | pfortuny: yeah, i could dig futher but "if it works, dont break it" |
| 09:51.19 | paulbronxny | i was gonna try ubuntu just cause its a 1 cd disk setup |
| 09:51.19 | Gnea | paulbronxny: debian itself or ubuntu? |
| 09:51.19 | leoster | directhex|work: reading packages list error |
| 09:51.22 | bcole | Gnea: its the mmorpg version |
| 09:51.31 | Gnea | bcole: *nod* |
| 09:51.34 | leoster | directhex|work: dynamic nmap ran out of room |
| 09:51.35 | pfortuny | thanks again, bcole |
| 09:51.39 | bcole | pfortuny: np |
| 09:51.45 | directhex|work | leoster, sounds familiar. google it. |
| 09:51.45 | menanti_sebuah_j | haloo |
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| 09:52.06 | leoster | directhex|work: and segmentation fault in apt-cache ... |
| 09:52.07 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, so is debian. nobody actually gets all 14 cds, nobody NEEDS them |
| 09:52.19 | paulbronxny | i was reading up on suse 9.1 personal....apparently the best linux ever....its an older version |
| 09:52.23 | directhex|work | leoster, sounds like you have bigger problems than bittorrent |
| 09:52.24 | pfortuny | bcole, what is RiOT? |
| 09:52.30 | Gnea | paulbronxny: don't expect ubuntu to be the shiniest apple in the bunch |
| 09:52.43 | paulbronxny | i hate the name ubuntu |
| 09:52.46 | bcole | pfortuny: scroll up, but its a ffxi linkshell/clan |
| 09:52.49 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, either do as i suggest, or bugger off. you're quickly descending into "annoying troll" status, rather than "in need of help" |
| 09:52.53 | mackel | if you where about to start an invest company for opensource comitments - what would you name the company .... since we have had problems with the name we haeve selected - agencies do not admit it |
| 09:52.56 | leoster | directhex|work: i wanted to update it with testing packages, so added a testing to my sources.list |
| 09:52.56 | paulbronxny | but apparently even a retard could set it up |
| 09:52.56 | TinoW | paulbronxny: imho. suse just sucks. But people are different. You need to read a lot anyway. |
| 09:53.17 | paulbronxny | ok stay away from suse? |
| 09:53.20 | Gnea | paulbronxny: that's a matter of serious debate that's better not to bother getting into - suse's great if you don't mind being locked down tight |
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| 09:53.44 | directhex|work | leoster, i hyave no idea what you've done to your system. i suggest some googliong of error messages |
| 09:53.45 | Gnea | paulbronxny: what do you want to do, exactly? |
| 09:54.01 | paulbronxny | i want a fairly easy setup |
| 09:54.02 | leoster | directhex|work: thanks :) |
| 09:54.03 | paulbronxny | no bullshit |
| 09:54.08 | TinoW | paulbronxny: (try to get it: when you talk to people, write their nick in front of the sentence followed by a colon, thanks) well, on the right hardware, neither debian nor ubuntu is a problem to install |
| 09:54.10 | paulbronxny | a killer gui |
| 09:54.10 | Gnea | i gathered that |
| 09:54.17 | Gnea | but what do you want it to DO |
| 09:54.23 | bcole | paulbronxny: then install sarge |
| 09:54.37 | TinoW | paulbronxny: maybe you want a preinstalled system? |
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| 09:54.41 | liable | define a killer gui |
| 09:54.45 | paulbronxny | no |
| 09:54.48 | bcole | paulbronxny: do you have a non-dialup internet connection? |
| 09:54.54 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, to many intents and purposes, ubuntu is debian 3.1 with a bunch of pre-selected things like gnome in it. that's not strictly accurate, but the description suffices for now. |
| 09:54.55 | paulbronxny | kde looks killer |
| 09:54.57 | Gnea | liable: Enlightenment ;) |
| 09:55.05 | liable | heh |
| 09:55.06 | Gnea | kde is lame. |
| 09:55.07 | blahdeblah | Trying again: what are some suggested apps for video capture from a Zoran card? |
| 09:55.09 | Gnea | gnome is lame. |
| 09:55.15 | jethro | liable: DR17 is really nice |
| 09:55.16 | Gnea | all wintendo-based crap |
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| 09:55.39 | liable | thats, it, its all subjective :) |
| 09:55.45 | directhex|work | i really don't like the "wintendo" label you seem to use somewhat frequently |
| 09:55.45 | Gnea | E17 is gonna blow everything outta the water |
| 09:55.48 | paulbronxny | well is ubuntu worth a shot? |
| 09:55.50 | TinoW | Gnea: actually its MIT-based ;) |
| 09:55.57 | paulbronxny | i hate the name ubuntu |
| 09:55.57 | jethro | Gnea: DR17 already does |
| 09:56.01 | TinoW | directhex|work: who? |
| 09:56.03 | paulbronxny | sounds nigger |
| 09:56.06 | bcole | paulbronxny: do you have a non-dialup connection? |
| 09:56.09 | jethro | paulbronxny: you already said that. and you sound racist |
| 09:56.12 | paulbronxny | i have dsl |
| 09:56.13 | TinoW | paulbronxny: nobody cares if you like/dislike a name ;) |
| 09:56.14 | liable | paulbronxny: you racist? |
| 09:56.18 | Gnea | directhex|work: so? it's not harming anyone |
| 09:56.29 | paulbronxny | i am a bit racist |
| 09:56.32 | directhex|work | paulbronxny, you won't like ubuntu then. it has a brown theme, and ubuntu-calendar-november has a naked black chick on it |
| 09:56.32 | jethro | !ops paulbronxny troll / racist person |
| 09:56.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: paulbronxny troll / racist person |
| 09:56.34 | paulbronxny | italian in the bronxx |
| 09:56.36 | paulbronxny | it happens |
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| 09:56.41 | Gnea | racism needs to die. |
| 09:56.45 | TinoW | paulbronxny: the problem seems to be you cant read. This makes it hard to install or use anything |
| 09:56.46 | *** kick/#debian [paulbronxny!foobar@p5481D172.dip.t-dialin.net] by caphuso (fuck off) |
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| 09:56.51 | jethro | thank you caphuso |
| 09:56.52 | bcole | nevermind :) |
| 09:56.54 | directhex|work | !win caphuso |
| 09:56.55 | dpkg | Congratulations, caphuso! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 09:57.04 | Gnea | caphuso: rock |
| 09:57.10 | directhex|work | actually, i like the ubuntu wallpapers. nakedchicks++ |
| 09:57.18 | Gnea | heh |
| 09:57.19 | TinoW | directhex|work: indeed? Where? ;) |
| 09:57.25 | Ronin | hard to go wrong directhex|work with nakedchicks :) |
| 09:57.46 | at0m|c | as long as it runs pornview |
| 09:57.46 | vincenz | racism is a sign of lacking intellect |
| 09:57.49 | TinoW | Ronin: well, if you want to impress chicks, you might consider providing naked boys too ;) |
| 09:57.57 | bcole | sad thing is i was actually trying to help that guy |
| 09:58.02 | Gnea | TinoW: I realize that, on the code-level, it's MIT-based, but as far as how it looks and functions overall, they're all start-buttony |
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| 09:58.17 | TinoW | Gnea: well, thats right. |
| 09:58.20 | Ronin | TinoW: wife and i made a deal i dont do the naked chicks wallpaper and she doesnt do the naked guys wallpaper |
| 09:58.21 | directhex|work | TinoW, http://www.finnie.org/stuff/ubuntu-porn/ |
| 09:58.26 | Gnea | it's taking a convention and extending it only so far |
| 09:58.33 | Gnea | lol |
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| 09:58.50 | vincenz | question about bash .... what sresource file is run for the login shell....apparently.bashrc is only good for nonlogin shells |
| 09:58.53 | vincenz | which is quite annoying |
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| 09:59.20 | Gnea | vincenz: check .bash_profile and see if it's sourcing it or not |
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| 09:59.23 | BriajWrk | hi |
| 09:59.26 | caphuso | vincenz: man bash, read the INVOCATION section |
| 09:59.32 | vincenz | thx |
| 09:59.43 | pfortuny | what is the meaning of a [bracketed] process in a "ps"? |
| 10:00.04 | Gnea | pfortuny: i believe that would be a kernel process |
| 10:00.05 | caphuso | pfortuny: kernel thread |
| 10:00.08 | Gnea | not userland |
| 10:00.12 | pfortuny | ok |
| 10:00.13 | caphuso | note: don't try to kill |
| 10:00.14 | directhex|work | TinoW, does that fullfil your "naked chicks as linux-related art" requirements? |
| 10:00.20 | Gnea | hehe |
| 10:00.21 | TinoW | this morning my KDE windowmanager has died. You never guess whats the name of this damnd thing. I started xfcwm4 then instead ;) |
| 10:00.24 | directhex|work | !pkill caphuso |
| 10:00.48 | TinoW | directhex|work: not sure if I should look at it while at work but I saved the link ;) |
| 10:00.55 | caphuso | directhex|work: i'm in uninterruptible sleep :-P |
| 10:00.55 | Ronin | TinoW: its work safe |
| 10:01.06 | directhex|work | TinoW, it's ART! but it *does* have "porn" in the url... |
| 10:01.22 | directhex|work | gah! zombie caphuso! he's after my brains! |
| 10:01.40 | Gnea | wait wait wait.. naked == porn?! |
| 10:01.41 | dondelelcaro | art, porn, pr0n... it's all in the eye of the beholder |
| 10:01.45 | pfortuny | dpkg, ghostpcl |
| 10:02.12 | pfortuny | dpkg pcl |
| 10:02.14 | dpkg | i heard pcl is Peripheral Conversion Language |
| 10:02.16 | TinoW | directhex|work: ah, quite dark ;) |
| 10:02.28 | pfortuny | can I teach dpkg? |
| 10:02.33 | jethro | pfortuny: yes |
| 10:02.42 | Gnea | pfortuny: just be careful :) |
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| 10:02.45 | jethro | pfortuny: /msg dpkg help |
| 10:02.45 | dondelelcaro | pfortuny: if you have to ask, you generally shouldn't. |
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| 10:03.25 | dondelelcaro | but if you do decide that you can, go right ahead. |
| 10:03.25 | jethro | dondelelcaro: does dpkg have the cvs code for blootbot, or is it somehow forked a little? |
| 10:03.38 | jethro | dondelelcaro: I noticed it lacks a few features present in the cvs version of blootbot |
| 10:03.52 | dondelelcaro | jethro: it's fairly similar to what is currently in the cvs... but I've turned on and off various things |
| 10:05.06 | jethro | dondelelcaro: would you mind telling me if you disabled <url></url> or if it's just not in dpkg at the moment? |
| 10:05.47 | dondelelcaro | I'm not particularly a fan of that feature |
| 10:06.04 | jethro | why is that? |
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| 10:06.40 | dondelelcaro | rrr... wait, are we talking about the code that pulls stuff from a website from a factoid? |
| 10:07.03 | jethro | dondelelcaro: no, SARing urls so you don't have to do it manually. ie: fgi foo bar+foobar |
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| 10:07.35 | jethro | dondelelcaro: with url it would become fgi foo bar foobar, and gets url encoded |
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| 10:08.29 | joey_ | how should I configure linux router to route traffic from one private network to another private network? Having two interfaces up and enable forwarding ? |
| 10:09.44 | dondelelcaro | jethro: what exactly does that net you? |
| 10:10.04 | leoster | anyone uses torrent in debian, i would like to choose a good client for that? |
| 10:10.12 | dondelelcaro | leoster: try bittornado |
| 10:10.20 | dondelelcaro | leoster: or, apt-cache search bittorrent |
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| 10:10.46 | leoster | dondelelcaro: does it have a stable version? |
| 10:11.07 | dondelelcaro | leoster: no. |
| 10:11.12 | dondelelcaro | leoster: but it is backported |
| 10:11.15 | jethro | dondelelcaro: I didn't understand you. non native english speaker here, sorry |
| 10:11.28 | jm_ | leoster: rtorrent, but it's not packaged |
| 10:11.33 | leoster | dondelelcaro: backported? what does it mean? |
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| 10:11.58 | dondelelcaro | leoster: the faq is calling your name |
| 10:12.01 | leoster | jm_: thx, is that better than bittornado in anyway? |
| 10:12.10 | jm_ | leoster: I find it much better |
| 10:12.23 | leoster | dondelelcaro: :)thx |
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| 10:12.51 | leoster | jm_: better dl/ul speed perhaps? |
| 10:13.10 | dondelelcaro | jethro: in short, what's the point of having that feature at all? |
| 10:13.26 | bcole | leoster: speed will be close if not exact no matter what client you use |
| 10:13.37 | leoster | dondelelcaro: how can i read the faq, sorry :"> |
| 10:13.39 | jm_ | leoster: well not that, but it uses much less resources and can be dynamically configured (new version of bittornado also made some progress in this area), and it gives you much more info about what is going on (who's connected to you, etc) |
| 10:13.42 | dondelelcaro | leoster: /topic |
| 10:13.58 | jethro | dondelelcaro: using factoids with URLs, URLs depending on the argument passed to the factoid, and that without manually URL encoding the argument. it'd save time imho |
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| 10:14.36 | dondelelcaro | jethro: yes, but what does that have to do with the url encoding? Your browser takes care of that for you. |
| 10:14.42 | leoster | thank you all :) |
| 10:15.09 | dondelelcaro | jethro: not to mention the fact that it will screw up already encoded urls |
| 10:15.11 | bcole | is there anyway to list all packages which are not depended upon? |
| 10:15.22 | caphuso | bcole: apt-cache show deborphan |
| 10:15.27 | dondelelcaro | bcole: debporhan or debfoster |
| 10:15.28 | bcole | thanks caphuso |
| 10:15.28 | jm_ | bcole: debfoster, deboprhan, and aptitude |
| 10:16.01 | leoster | how can i enable completion for apt-get install, like knoppix, i googled for it, nothing useful :( |
| 10:16.11 | jm_ | leoster: I have already told you hours ago |
| 10:16.34 | dondelelcaro | leoster: uncomment the appropriate section of /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 10:16.47 | jethro | dondelelcaro: the point is to have dpkg give urls one can click. and I don't see how it would screw up already encoded URLs, since you have to explicitly use <url></url> in a factoid, and it only mangles what's behing the ? |
| 10:16.53 | jethro | s/hing/hind/ |
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| 10:17.24 | leoster | jm_: but i answered in bash it works, but in apt-get no |
| 10:17.28 | jethro | dondelelcaro: I m not insisting, don't misunderstand me. just being curious on features in dpkg or not, and the reasons why, if any. |
| 10:17.41 | jm_ | leoster: that's because you didn't enable bash_completion |
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| 10:19.35 | leoster | dondelelcaro: i uncommented the bash_completion section, but didn't work |
| 10:19.44 | dondelelcaro | leoster: you haven't forked off a new shell yet. |
| 10:20.01 | dondelelcaro | leoster: . /etc/bash.bashrc; for starters. |
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| 10:22.37 | bcole | leoster: im pretty sure what your asking for cannot be done |
| 10:22.51 | jm_ | bcole: it is done and works fine |
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| 10:22.59 | bcole | jm_: really? |
| 10:23.19 | jm_ | bcole: yah, run ". /etc/bash.bashrc" and test it if you're using bash, zsh also supports it |
| 10:23.29 | leoster | bcole: :O, you mean it cant be done like knoppix? |
| 10:23.45 | sphere | did you use the k word? |
| 10:23.55 | at0m|c | anyone know a convenient way to clone some partitions? bought new hd for the server, i can insert it and clone that one over... then i'd want to backup my laptop's hd to that disk too, so i can insert the new laptop hd and clone that one too |
| 10:24.18 | leoster | dondelelcaro: it seams that it runs /etc/bash_completion, but the file is empty |
| 10:24.19 | at0m|c | so instead of learning 10 different applications for that, is there one that will manage all that? |
| 10:24.23 | jm_ | at0m|c: system imager, and there's shitloads of ghost clones too |
| 10:24.47 | seldon | at0m|c: Try partimage |
| 10:24.51 | at0m|c | jm_: cheers, will check :) |
| 10:25.00 | at0m|c | oki seldon :) |
| 10:25.25 | liable | dd? |
| 10:25.31 | bcole | jm_: i notice nothing diff after running that |
| 10:25.49 | jm_ | bcole: try apt-cache show cow<tab><tab> |
| 10:26.00 | leoster | jm_: no gui for rtorrent? |
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| 10:26.28 | jm_ | leoster: it's a terminal based application |
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| 10:26.50 | bcole | jm_: found the reason why, it was commented out in bash.bashrc :) |
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| 10:26.52 | fas3r__ | hi all |
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| 10:27.04 | at0m|c | leoster: if u want gui, try qtorrent |
| 10:27.20 | jm_ | bcole: yes, that's a default - and why I said to run that manually |
| 10:27.33 | leoster | at0m|c: better than bittornado? |
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| 10:28.00 | at0m|c | leoster: havent tried that one, i got stuck to qtorrent some time ago |
| 10:28.01 | jm_ | leoster: azureus is GUI, but it's a real hog |
| 10:28.17 | bcole | jm_: running ./etc/bash.bashrc did nothign since it was commented out in that |
| 10:28.50 | bcole | jm_: maybe you meant running . /etc/bash_completion? |
| 10:29.04 | jm_ | bcole: ". /foo", not "./foo" |
| 10:29.09 | fas3r__ | jethro, hi |
| 10:29.18 | bcole | jm_: yeah typo |
| 10:29.24 | jm_ | bcole: yes, I see it now, stupid me ;) |
| 10:29.38 | jethro | fas3r__: hi. did it work? |
| 10:29.46 | Om | I've got some instructions which involve editing the "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-xxx" (xxx being eth1 etc I belive), but I don't have any such file on my Debian system, where can I find it, or the equivilant? :) |
| 10:29.47 | jm_ | mentioned bashrc instead of bash_completion |
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| 10:29.56 | Om | And help much appreciated :) |
| 10:29.58 | jm_ | Om: man interfaces |
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| 10:30.01 | fas3r__ | jethro, no.... :S |
| 10:30.06 | jethro | fas3r__: duh |
| 10:30.06 | Om | jm_, okay :) |
| 10:30.08 | [Elvis] | hej guys, do you know a replacement url for deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian/ sarge non-free ? |
| 10:30.10 | bcole | jm_: yeah np, thanks for letting me know about that :) |
| 10:30.13 | jethro | fas3r__: try debian kernel images then |
| 10:30.32 | fas3r__ | jethro, yes i think |
| 10:31.02 | FireBox | Does VMware work well on Debian Sarge? I couldn't get it working at all on Ubuntu. |
| 10:31.15 | bcole | FireBox: debian being the guest or host? |
| 10:31.17 | [Elvis] | anyone? |
| 10:31.19 | fas3r__ | i try again a last time |
| 10:31.28 | FireBox | bcole: Host. |
| 10:31.34 | fas3r__ | i come back i rebooting for testing |
| 10:31.39 | [Elvis] | does anyone have a replacement url for deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian/ sarge non-free ....apt source |
| 10:31.42 | bcole | FireBox: no clue |
| 10:31.50 | leoster | jm_: i did as you said. listened your conversatio with bcole, but didn't work |
| 10:32.02 | jm_ | leoster: ". /etc/bash_completion" |
| 10:32.12 | jm_ | without " |
| 10:32.13 | leoster | jm_: uncomment the related parts, executed . /etc/... |
| 10:32.27 | jm_ | leoster: yes, but you need to logout and login again, and also -- /msg dpkg bashrc |
| 10:32.29 | bcole | leoster: i can confirm that works, i just did it myself |
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| 10:34.58 | leoster | jm_: wow i don't have any bash_completion file, it this a package? (wasnt at apt-cache) |
| 10:35.40 | jm_ | leoster: it's in bash package |
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| 10:36.57 | Frostbite | As for the following question, I'm not notmally a fedora user, but I thought I'd try it out and I set up mdraid in the setup program. I normally use Gentoo for desktops and Debian for servers. As default, fedora sets up sortware raid using 'DEVICE partitions' in mdadm.conf so that it reads from /proc/partitions. The raid is across two ide hard drives. I've changed the file to specify the ide partitions and I can assemble the raid devices is sing |
| 10:36.58 | Frostbite | le user mode if I specify the cfg as /etc/mdadm.conf, but if I add sata drives, fedora ignores mdadm.conf and just tries to make the raid from the sata drives (using /proc/partitions). Any ideas on how I can force mdadm to read /etc/mdadm.conf on bootup? |
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| 10:37.39 | leoster | jm_: now i should do what? upgrade my bash? |
| 10:37.43 | TinoW | ah freakin famd has died... |
| 10:37.54 | jm_ | leoster: well reinstall it, what version of bash do you have installed? |
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| 10:38.51 | directhex|work | Frostbite, that's a fedora question, not a #debian question |
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| 10:39.14 | TinoW | how can I kill a process with status D? |
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| 10:39.22 | Frostbite | directhex|work, I know, but I'm used to this channel cos I use Debian a lot. mdadm is the same across all distros. |
| 10:39.30 | leoster | jm_: 2.05a.0(1), duh, how can i copy&paste from the terminal, im in kde :( |
| 10:39.42 | Frostbite | directhex|work, I've asked in fedora but no answer, so I thought I'd try where I'm used to. |
| 10:39.45 | jm_ | leoster: is it bash or bash-minimal? |
| 10:40.01 | directhex|work | Frostbite, configuration, and the way the init scripts behave, are not though. i don't know how or why fedora does things. |
| 10:40.07 | TinoW | leoster: mark with left key, paste with middle key |
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| 10:40.24 | Pumpkin_Pie | im trying to symlink only *.png files to another directory... ive tried 'cp -s' but it doesn't work out |
| 10:40.24 | TinoW | leoster: this is all over the place with X |
| 10:40.34 | leoster | GNU bash, version 2.05a.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu) |
| 10:40.44 | jm_ | leoster: reinstall it, but this is a config file so reinstall it with dpkg and appropriate options to overwrite config files, and be careful that it won't overwrite any of your changes |
| 10:40.46 | Frostbite | directhex|work, It just loads mdpd. I'm guessing that md stores the setup in a binary cache somewhere instead of mdadm.conf |
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| 10:41.16 | leoster | jm_: which changes you mean? |
| 10:41.18 | TinoW | Pumpkin_Pie: find . -iname "*.png" -printf "ln -s %p /somewhere/else/\n" | bash |
| 10:41.21 | TinoW | :-) |
| 10:41.21 | directhex|work | Frostbite, that wouldn't match my own experience of mdadm on debian, if it did |
| 10:41.36 | Frostbite | directhex|work, ok, thanks |
| 10:41.38 | jm_ | leoster: bash |
| 10:42.07 | leoster | jm_: for reinstall i shoul remove and install it? |
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| 10:42.36 | jm_ | leoster: that might remove some other packages, be careful |
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| 10:43.03 | leoster | jm_: so how do i do it safely :( |
| 10:43.20 | jm_ | leoster: bah, download the package and install it with dpkg, or just unpack it and copy the file to its place |
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| 10:43.43 | TinoW | how can I kill a process with status D? |
| 10:43.57 | caphuso | TinoW: reboot |
| 10:43.57 | TinoW | (nobody seems to know anything, as usuall :( |
| 10:44.19 | TinoW | caphuso: I guessed. Who implemented such a windows-ism in linux? |
| 10:44.28 | petemc | ... |
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| 10:44.52 | TinoW | *rant* |
| 10:45.01 | caphuso | TinoW: don't use broken hardware or wrong NFS mount options. problem solved |
| 10:45.17 | leoster | jm_: apt-get remove bash gives me warning, is that harmfull if i do it? |
| 10:45.29 | TinoW | caphuso: it should _never_ ever block on anything. Its not NFS but cifs. And the FS still works. |
| 10:45.37 | jm_ | leoster: the warning is there for a reason, better just replace the file manually |
| 10:45.38 | bcole | jm_: you most likely dont want to do that |
| 10:45.39 | liable | TinoW: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/04/msg02773.html |
| 10:45.47 | bcole | jm_: sorry meant for leoster |
| 10:45.48 | petemc | spamassassin is prone to going in the D state, too |
| 10:46.15 | TinoW | nothing wrong with the D state really, but there should be a way to get rid of the process even when in D state |
| 10:46.27 | caphuso | almost everything is prone to go into D state |
| 10:46.31 | jm_ | TinoW: I'm sure kernel folks will gladly accept patches :P |
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| 10:46.38 | caphuso | maybe with a few exceptions like "sleep" |
| 10:46.50 | leoster | iam a newbie sorry :( |
| 10:46.54 | petemc | caphuso: ok, i should say, i see SA going into the D state more often than i see other apps |
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| 10:47.39 | TinoW | jm_: I'm thinking this whole kernel API with synchonous calls is the problem |
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| 10:48.43 | TinoW | maybe I wait two more weeks till hurd comes out... |
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| 10:48.46 | TinoW | ;) |
| 10:49.07 | dpblnt | how can i upgrade my glx to 1.3? |
| 10:49.45 | directhex|work | dpblnt, update your graphics drivers. |
| 10:50.30 | dpblnt | directhex|work, it's an i810, how can i do that? |
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| 10:50.48 | bcole | leoster: what does ls /etc/bash_completion say? |
| 10:50.57 | dpblnt | directhex|work, isn't it Xfree's own driver? |
| 10:51.00 | directhex|work | dpblnt, get ahold of xorg from somewhere, e.g. compile it yourself, switch linux distro, etc |
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| 10:51.24 | dpblnt | directhex|work, i've just returned from gentoo :( |
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| 10:51.56 | sep | dpblnt: ait untill sarge is release, then xorg will be packaged for etch, and use that. |
| 10:52.02 | sep | ait=wait :P |
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| 10:52.21 | paulswm | untill=until :P |
| 10:52.28 | directhex|work | dpblnt, you won't get what you want from xfree86 4.3. you really rather need xorg 6.8 |
| 10:52.32 | egg | sarge = stable? |
| 10:52.36 | resiak | !topicsmite egg |
| 10:52.37 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon egg. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 10:52.43 | paulswm | *sigh* |
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| 10:52.53 | mackel | may i ask - |
| 10:52.57 | mackel | is it have walked |
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| 10:52.59 | mackel | or has walked |
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| 10:53.10 | paulswm | mackel: has walked |
| 10:53.12 | leoster | bcole: its odd, ls lists it, but cat says no such a file |
| 10:53.13 | sep | paulswm: now your a english tutor ? :) |
| 10:53.19 | mackel | tnkx |
| 10:53.19 | resiak | "He has walked", "they have walked". Depends on who it is. |
| 10:53.23 | jm_ | mackel: that depends - we have walked, (s)he has walked ... |
| 10:53.33 | dpblnt | sep, so should i try sid? |
| 10:53.40 | paulswm | sep: Why not, it's my native language |
| 10:53.42 | xxy_man | hi all, what should I write into fstab for mounting an ext2 partition as r/w for all users? |
| 10:53.50 | caphuso | xxy_man: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 10:53.53 | mackel | the hole scentence "The technology to transmitt radio have walked thru a fantastic development |
| 10:53.59 | bcole | leoster: ". /etc/bash_completion", without the quotes |
| 10:54.00 | caphuso | xxy_man: ah, no, sorry. misread |
| 10:54.06 | egg | sarge,sid,woody ... |
| 10:54.11 | caphuso | xxy_man: just mount the thing and use chmod/chown/chgrp |
| 10:54.24 | resiak | dpblnt: No, you shouldn't. |
| 10:54.24 | dpblnt | directhex|work, there is no package named xorg in packages.debian.org, any distribution. :( |
| 10:54.29 | jm_ | leoster: then you have a fs corruption or hardware problems |
| 10:54.30 | resiak | dpblnt: /msg dpkg xorg |
| 10:54.32 | leoster | bcole: no such a file or ... :( |
| 10:54.33 | paulswm | mackel: transmit, has, through |
| 10:54.39 | egg | where is potato? |
| 10:54.42 | directhex|work | dpblnt, i know. xorg is not in debian yet, and won't be for a short while. |
| 10:54.44 | sep | dpblnt: no realy, xorg is not in sid either, not untill sarge is released, and then we have the new testing, so i'd wait for etch if i was you. |
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| 10:54.55 | bcole | leoster: and you typed it correctly? |
| 10:54.58 | xxy_man | "/dev/hdb7 /media/bla ext2 rw,user,noauto 0 2" is not working |
| 10:54.58 | jm_ | leoster: but it won't worked if it's 0 bytes long |
| 10:55.00 | directhex|work | dpblnt, you need to compile it yourself, get ahold of 3rd party packages, ro change distro |
| 10:55.04 | whm | xorg is quicker? |
| 10:55.07 | leoster | bcole: sure |
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| 10:55.15 | jm_ | won't work even |
| 10:55.17 | egg | xorg is clean |
| 10:55.19 | t3c0 | anyone know`s a site with worldwide dial-in number list? |
| 10:55.30 | directhex|work | whm, xorg has improved drivers, uncluding wider hardware support and better 3d acceleration |
| 10:55.30 | egg | I am sure |
| 10:55.42 | idealbsd | why i bonding some key and it works in debian sid, but several time later, the binding key disabled and not work any more, must close x and startx again to gain the key binding, it's the fvwm bug? |
| 10:55.45 | liable | t3c0: local telephone book? |
| 10:56.04 | dpblnt | directhex|work, sep, resiak thanx a lot, so there will be no 'glest'ing in deb yet :( that's too bad. |
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| 10:56.08 | whm | directhex|work,really? |
| 10:56.22 | bcole | any easy way to grab an already installed pkg other than ftp? |
| 10:56.24 | paulswm | whm: please don't msg me |
| 10:56.37 | jm_ | bcole: dpkg-repack |
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| 10:56.43 | t3c0 | hm..yes.. but i hafe to set it up for a stupid user.. and he can`t set it up self.. |
| 10:56.45 | directhex|work | dpblnt, you could get an nvidia, and use the nvidia drivers |
| 10:56.54 | t3c0 | have |
| 10:56.55 | t3c0 | :D |
| 10:57.01 | directhex|work | whm, there are some other little differences, but that's the main one |
| 10:57.02 | jm_ | bcole: or check if it's in apt's cache |
| 10:57.13 | egg | IP driver sucks |
| 10:57.19 | dpblnt | directhex|work, it's a laptop |
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| 10:57.23 | toonX | !seen tra1a1a |
| 10:57.24 | dpkg | tra1a1a <~joro@206.direct-36-24.bgcell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 20h 39m 45s ago, saying: 'jethro: good to know but not really helping in this case'. |
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| 10:57.28 | bcole | jm_: i was more of less thinking for leoster |
| 10:57.34 | directhex|work | whm, e.g. xorg supports intel GMA900, geforce 6 series, radeon X series - debian's x server does not |
| 10:57.36 | bcole | i clean apts cache |
| 10:57.44 | leoster | jm_: wow, my friend was working on it yesterday with knoppix |
| 10:57.47 | whm | directhex|work,I see :) |
| 10:57.52 | egg | GMA900? |
| 10:57.53 | t3c0 | no one know? |
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| 10:58.03 | directhex|work | egg, i915 onboard |
| 10:58.09 | leoster | jm_: this is a sim link from knoppix cdrom , ah |
| 10:58.09 | egg | mmm |
| 10:58.17 | egg | driver? |
| 10:58.25 | egg | oss driver? |
| 10:58.26 | bcole | leoster: that could be the problem |
| 10:58.41 | directhex|work | egg, it's covered by xorg's version of i810. |
| 10:58.52 | directhex|work | egg, including some 3d acceleration |
| 10:58.56 | egg | ... |
| 10:58.59 | egg | bad |
| 10:59.20 | egg | low performence + limited function |
| 10:59.22 | leoster | jm_: can i get only this bash_completion script from somewhere, and make it work? |
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| 10:59.36 | egg | onboard display chip |
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| 10:59.53 | bcole | leoster: wget http://bcole.org/bash_completion should provide you with a file if you dont want to reinstall bash |
| 11:00.17 | directhex|work | egg, it'll make life easier for you if you assume there is nothing i don't know on performance pc hardware. |
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| 11:00.30 | dpblnt | directhex|work, i can find xorg packages on apt-get.ort, what do you say about them? |
| 11:00.52 | egg | i810 is famous... but i? |
| 11:00.57 | directhex|work | egg, but put simply, i'd rather have a light laptop with good battery life than one with a geforce or radeon, and it's nice to be able to run neverball on said light laptop. |
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| 11:01.19 | directhex|work | dpblnt, /msg dpkg xorg |
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| 11:01.29 | petemc | !dict hubris |
| 11:01.31 | dpkg | could not find definition for hubris |
| 11:01.38 | dpblnt | directhex|work, did that allready, thanx |
| 11:01.46 | egg | directhex|work: old laptop did |
| 11:01.56 | er_JoNaYx | OLaaaaa, No hay nadie de ESPAÑA??????????? |
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| 11:02.03 | shingouz | !es |
| 11:02.03 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:02.05 | egg | directhex|work: a trick for making money |
| 11:02.08 | leoster | bcole: thank you very much for you time and patience :* |
| 11:02.19 | leoster | jm_ : thank you very much for you time and patience :* |
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| 11:02.31 | directhex|work | egg, old laptop did *what*. that's not a statement on its own. |
| 11:02.38 | ricky_clarkson | Hi. Galeon won't start. No console output, and strace doesn't show any (obvious) problems. It hangs. Any suggestions? |
| 11:02.40 | egg | save power |
| 11:02.45 | egg | save money |
| 11:03.13 | ricky_clarkson | It works for other users. I deleted the .galeon folder to no avail. |
| 11:03.50 | Caffeinated | ricky_clarkson: Can new accounts use galeon? |
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| 11:05.16 | directhex|work | egg, i use a laptop for *work*. i need something that is portable, and functional, above all else. this isn't a dumpster diving exercise. |
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| 11:05.35 | Caffeinated | directhex|work: I couldn't say it better. |
| 11:05.37 | leoster | bcole: nice homepage :) |
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| 11:05.51 | ricky_clarkson | Caffeinated: Yes. |
| 11:05.52 | bcole | leoster: lol, its for a game i play, ffxi |
| 11:06.25 | Caffeinated | ricky_clarkson: usdel and useradd are your friends. :) |
| 11:06.25 | Caffeinated | userdel :) |
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| 11:06.38 | ricky_clarkson | Caffeinated: I don't want to lose my other settings. |
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| 11:06.49 | pro | hey guys, anyone know of a trivia bot i can put on our local ircd ? |
| 11:07.05 | Caffeinated | ricky_clarkson: You won't, just back it up and then copying it to the new user. |
| 11:07.05 | ricky_clarkson | pro: As in factoids or games? |
| 11:07.12 | ricky_clarkson | Caffeinated: How will that help? |
| 11:07.17 | neoXite | can i somehow disable ipv6 in sshd? i havent found anything in the docs |
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| 11:07.56 | pro | ricky_clarkson: as in one that asks questions and then gives points and so on |
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| 11:08.14 | vincenz | How do I set my terminal to be more lines and wider... I got debian terminal (no x) running inside vmware...but it's too small...And if I put it fullscreen it still has a lot of place |
| 11:08.14 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 11:08.34 | JohnGH | vincenz: are you on a laptop/tft ? |
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| 11:09.17 | vincenz | JohnGH: YEAH |
| 11:09.23 | resiak | vincenz: Append vga=ask to your kernel boot line. |
| 11:09.23 | directhex|work | vincenz, add "vga=791" to your kernel options, when booting |
| 11:09.24 | vincenz | without capitals |
| 11:09.32 | vincenz | thx |
| 11:09.56 | resiak | directhex|work: Framebuffer in vmware? |
| 11:09.59 | liable | hmm |
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| 11:10.18 | directhex|work | resiak, yeah, why not! works on *some* distros |
| 11:10.27 | directhex|work | resiak, i.e. not on mandrake, fine otherwise |
| 11:10.32 | resiak | directhex|work: Hahah. |
| 11:11.11 | directhex|work | resiak, mandrake's vmware compatability is somehow broken |
| 11:11.26 | resiak | directhex|work: s/'s.*y/ ? |
| 11:12.15 | vincenz | directhex|work: how do you do taht with grub? |
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| 11:12.59 | directhex|work | vincenz, press whatever button it is to edit the options, add vga=791 to the end of the one with initrd and things like that on it. more permanently, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 11:13.29 | fas3r | re |
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| 11:15.27 | zefred | hello |
| 11:15.33 | vincenz | directhex|work: and it's a laptop...but the debian is running inside vmware inside xp |
| 11:15.44 | zefred | i'm looking for miniserv.conf for debian, who help me |
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| 11:16.04 | doub | hi there |
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| 11:16.27 | mooded | zefred, locate miniserv.conf .. (i believe its somewhere below /etc/webmin) .. |
| 11:17.08 | zefred | mooded: i received "403 acces denied" when i type https://ip:10000 |
| 11:17.58 | doub | i'd like to launch a website, like some sort of wiki, for help with the money-less geeks, centered around debian, of course (just not to seem too much OT) and am in search for a name. how do you call them in english? |
| 11:18.06 | toonX | hey guys , how can i mount usb flash mommory devices ? im using sarge with an 2.6 kernel. #/sbin/hotplug does nothing. |
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| 11:18.19 | K_Dallas | zefred, i am not sure if you need ip at all, try your hostname instead of ip |
| 11:18.35 | zefred | K_Dallas: do you use webmin? |
| 11:18.36 | seeeS | doub: what do you call "what" in english? |
| 11:18.40 | toonX | excuze my spelling btw |
| 11:18.44 | doub | seeeS: money-less people |
| 11:18.46 | seeeS | toonX: my just gets recognise |
| 11:18.48 | K_Dallas | zefred, just for the fun of it |
| 11:18.52 | seeeS | doub: poor people |
| 11:19.07 | toonX | seeeS uhm you using sarge ? |
| 11:19.15 | seeeS | yeah |
| 11:19.15 | FireBox | I've just done a fresh install of Debian Sarge. How do I get ALSA working? |
| 11:19.30 | doub | seeeS: of course, but that's too easy. i'd like a funky name, like one that represents the state of mind of money-less geeks |
| 11:19.33 | toonX | seeeS hmm |
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| 11:19.41 | zefred | K_Dallas: is it possible to past me your miniserv.conf because i've big problem with my miniserv.conf |
| 11:19.45 | liable | !usb storage |
| 11:19.46 | paulswm | doub: hungry. :P |
| 11:19.57 | Phated | HAha. |
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| 11:20.13 | K_Dallas | zefred, pm me |
| 11:20.17 | seeeS | unemployed, hungry, dole bludgers! |
| 11:20.18 | JohnGH | I upgraded and rebooted some Sarge boxes today and two of them won't boot - Grub is giving "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" - any idea why that has suddenly happened? (was it the ROOT=probe line in /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf ? because I was asked about that) |
| 11:20.22 | liable | !test |
| 11:20.22 | dpkg | No, liable, you're not online any more. |
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| 11:20.59 | toonX | seeeS in /etc/hotplug/usb.rc , in section usb_boot_events , line DEVPATH do you have anything , cause i dont! |
| 11:21.03 | seeeS | fire: alsa is diabolical |
| 11:21.26 | seeeS | fire: but the wiki helps |
| 11:21.26 | FireBox | seeeS: Sorry? |
| 11:21.27 | toonX | seeeS it's line 69 |
| 11:21.40 | FireBox | seeeS: What wiki? |
| 11:21.50 | seeeS | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 11:22.03 | FireBox | seeeS: Cheers. |
| 11:22.07 | liable | toonX: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 11:22.10 | doub | paulswm: hungry feels good, especially right now as i didnt eat of all day :{ |
| 11:22.19 | toonX | liable ok thanks |
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| 11:22.32 | maltron | johngh: some bioses can't recognize a boot partition over a certain size |
| 11:22.56 | toonX | liable cool |
| 11:23.30 | maltron | johngh: although it seems that I didn't read the rest of your question, and that probably has nothing to do with it |
| 11:23.31 | maltron | sorry |
| 11:24.01 | doub | seeeS, paulswm: well, i'll keep the log safe. thanks for your help |
| 11:24.02 | paulswm | doub: Anyone who looks at the wiki already has a computer, and debian is free :) |
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| 11:24.26 | seeeS | doub: i have a thing called usb.agent find it |
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| 11:24.28 | paulswm | doub: "hungry" was meant as a joke, re. the state of mind of someone with no money. |
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| 11:24.37 | seeeS | Jun 3 21:20:56 localhost usb.agent[3952]: usb-storage: loaded successfully |
| 11:24.47 | seeeS | hungry can also mean keen or interested |
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| 11:25.10 | zefred | re |
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| 11:26.28 | jankungen | hi guys, cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus says can't open scsi driver how come? |
| 11:26.28 | zefred | hello |
| 11:26.29 | doub | paulswm: in my idea, it's all about recycling old hardware, how to minimize ressource use, this kind of stuff |
| 11:26.45 | JohnGH | maltron: thanks... I'm glad if it wasn't that - because I hesitated at changing it but went ahead... (they were on "ROOT=/dev/hda9" etc) |
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| 11:27.02 | yanto | hay |
| 11:27.09 | seeeS | jankungen: for modern kernels i didnt think you needed scsi |
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| 11:27.28 | JohnGH | Does that mean Grub has borked? it's not like my BIOSes or hard disks have changed since the last time i rebooted those two boxes |
| 11:27.38 | yanto | km dr mn |
| 11:27.42 | jankungen | seeeS: I'm using debian sarge |
| 11:27.51 | doub | well, thanks for help, but now i'll try to find something to eat ;} |
| 11:28.33 | yanto | do you speak indonesia |
| 11:28.33 | paulswm | If you're smart enough to install debian, but can't afford a cheap computer, then you're probably a child, student, drug user, alcoholic or chronic gambler I would imagine. |
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| 11:28.47 | Penix | all the above in my case |
| 11:29.00 | paulswm | !win Penix |
| 11:29.00 | dpkg | Congratulations, Penix! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 11:29.08 | zefred | .. |
| 11:29.11 | maltron | johngh: I think what I meant was that I didn't really understand the issue at all, so you better not listen to me! Essentially my guess was that because old bioses need the boot partition on the first n cylinders (1024? idunno) |
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| 11:29.26 | maltron | that this might have been the problem |
| 11:29.38 | maltron | but I'm way out of my depth here |
| 11:29.48 | maltron | how old are the pc's? |
| 11:29.51 | doub | paulswm: well, just the 'student' and 'chronic gambler' are false to me. except i'm trying to quit alcohol right now and trying to find something to keep my mind busy |
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| 11:30.04 | doub | paulswm: cheers |
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| 11:30.21 | amorphix | w00000000t my wacom pad is working in X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:30.26 | seeeS | jn: but in any case sg should be available |
| 11:30.28 | amorphix | woohooo |
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| 11:31.30 | paulswm | doub: Sorry for not being too serious, I applaud your idea really. |
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| 11:32.08 | Powered | hey |
| 11:32.10 | JohnGH | yanto: msg me - I might be able to help sedikit) |
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| 11:32.28 | Powered | can somebody help me with dancer-ircd ? |
| 11:32.38 | jm_ | Powered: mind readers maybe |
| 11:32.43 | jankungen | any idea why cdrecord -scanbus says can't open scsi driver? Thank you |
| 11:32.43 | Slayer98 | Powered: no, you joined #debian by mistake |
| 11:32.50 | toonX | liable i have the usb-storage module in /lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/ and sd_mod in /lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/drivers/scsi/ , but modprobe says FATAL: Module usb_storage not found. |
| 11:32.51 | paulswm | jm_: heh |
| 11:32.53 | seeeS | doub: there are sites like that, computerbank in au and there was a Dutch one too |
| 11:33.01 | Powered | jm_: What ? |
| 11:33.01 | Fleck | toonX 2.4 or 2.6 ? |
| 11:33.09 | toonX | Fleck 2.6 |
| 11:33.11 | Powered | Slayer98: Ok. |
| 11:33.12 | Powered | :P |
| 11:35.47 | jm_ | Powered: how can we know if we can help you if we don't even know what the problem is? |
| 11:35.47 | chealer | is there a special status for kernel 2.2's security in sarge? considering that there were no uploads since september but it's still not mentionned on the testing security issues page. |
| 11:35.47 | Fleck | toonX dunno :)p |
| 11:35.47 | maltron | jarkungen: stab in the dark, but are the scsi drivers enabled in the kernel or the modules installed? |
| 11:35.47 | toonX | Fleck cool |
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| 11:35.47 | Powered | its a problem in my dancer-ircd server.The filiter is Debian.ChanServ using irc.localnet http://www.debian.org/ and other things.How do I change it ? |
| 11:35.48 | Fleck | toonX :)p well maybe something is missing in the kernel ? |
| 11:35.48 | seeeS | 2.2? is that even tracked upstream? |
| 11:35.48 | toonX | liable but other modules ie: usbcore , gets loaded |
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| 11:35.48 | jm_ | Powered: I don't understand your question, please rephrase it' |
| 11:35.48 | toonX | Fleck nah , i have the modules, is just that modprobe doesn't load some of them |
| 11:35.48 | seeeS | toonX: can you just load it manually? |
| 11:35.48 | toonX | seeeS insmod? |
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| 11:35.48 | seeeS | modprobe probably is better |
| 11:35.48 | directhex|work | !insmod |
| 11:35.48 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 11:35.49 | seeeS | heh |
| 11:35.49 | toonX | seeeS nope i can't |
| 11:35.49 | FireBox | Damnit, to use "make menuconfig", I need "ncurses-devel", but that isn't in the repository. What am I to do now? :( |
| 11:35.50 | Powered | jm_: Welcome to the Debian dancer-ircd Network Powered <- How do I change it to some other Network name ? |
| 11:35.55 | jm_ | FireBox: /msg dpkg menuconfig |
| 11:36.02 | JohnGH | maltron: thanks anyway |
| 11:36.08 | toonX | directhex|work yes, i use modprobe |
| 11:36.13 | seeeS | toonX: try with -v to see what is going wrong |
| 11:36.28 | FireBox | jm_, Thanks a lot! :D |
| 11:36.42 | maltron | johngh: no worries. I figure if I spew out enough random garbage I'm bound to help someone one of these days! |
| 11:36.44 | seeeS | buy dpkg has all the faqs |
| 11:36.48 | seeeS | boy even |
| 11:37.07 | JohnGH | maltron: hehehe often works... lateral thinking induced by random spoutings |
| 11:37.23 | maltron | hehe |
| 11:38.04 | liable | toonX: sorry, steped out for a smoke, whats lsmod say? |
| 11:38.36 | toonX | liable cool :) |
| 11:38.47 | liable | toonX: home rolled kernel? |
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| 11:38.52 | toonX | liable yep |
| 11:38.57 | liable | ok |
| 11:38.58 | seeeS | ah |
| 11:38.59 | toonX | liable but i do have the modules |
| 11:39.09 | jm_ | Powered: hmm let me see |
| 11:39.13 | egg | hi, I ma back |
| 11:39.17 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
| 11:39.24 | egg | s/ma/am |
| 11:39.42 | toonX | liable in fact i see now modprobe doesn't want to load anything, i did #rmmod usbcore then #modprobe usbcore and says module not found! |
| 11:39.48 | liable | toonX: how many 2.6.10 kernels you got? |
| 11:39.53 | egg | Do I have missed something? |
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| 11:39.58 | toonX | liable 1 :) |
| 11:40.02 | liable | ok |
| 11:40.11 | toonX | liable and the 2.4bf |
| 11:40.17 | jm_ | Powered: do you have exact message? |
| 11:40.29 | liable | toonX: cant use a debian 2.6.8? |
| 11:40.35 | Powered | jm_: What do you mean with exact ? |
| 11:40.46 | liable | toonX: reason for the home rolled? |
| 11:40.50 | jm_ | Powered: exatly like your IRC client prints it |
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| 11:40.56 | jm_ | exactly |
| 11:40.58 | toonX | liable uhm , fun |
| 11:41.03 | toonX | liable pass the time |
| 11:41.10 | Powered | jm_: Can we take it msg plz ? |
| 11:41.15 | jm_ | Powered: no |
| 11:41.21 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
| 11:41.27 | liable | toonX: thats ok, but try installing 2.6.8 from apt, and see how you go. |
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| 11:41.49 | liable | toonX: then go back to make menu-config :) |
| 11:41.52 | yanto | IM DO NOT |
| 11:41.57 | jm_ | Powered: is it 001 numeric? |
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| 11:42.06 | Powered | jm_: I dont understand. |
| 11:42.09 | toonX | liable cool, maybe i'll have better chances with the 2.6.8 |
| 11:42.09 | Powered | jm_: Listen. |
| 11:42.29 | yanto | WHAT IS YOU DO |
| 11:42.38 | liable | toonX: yep, how did you make it? make kpkg? |
| 11:42.38 | Powered | jm_: When I connect to my irc server.The server tell me: Welcome to the Debian dancer-ircd Network Powered |
| 11:42.38 | Powered | Your host is irc.carding.cc[irc.carding.cc/6667], running version dancer-ircd-1.0.36 |
| 11:42.38 | toonX | liable and .. would be a bad idea to import the .config , right? |
| 11:42.49 | jm_ | Powered: ok |
| 11:42.59 | Powered | jm_: I want to change the "Debian dancer-ircd Network Powered" or so. |
| 11:43.04 | Powered | jm_: Do you know how I do ? |
| 11:43.06 | toonX | liable like said in the README , make menuconfig , make , make_modules and .. all |
| 11:43.15 | liable | toonX: apt-get install kerenl-image-2.6.8-whatever-arch |
| 11:43.17 | toonX | liable oh , no make_modules |
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| 11:43.22 | chealer | seeeS: it's supposed to, but I frankly don't know |
| 11:43.28 | toonX | liable cool thanks |
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| 11:43.32 | liable | !tell toonX about kpkg |
| 11:43.43 | idealbsd | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:43.47 | liable | bah |
| 11:44.05 | liable | !tell toonX about make-kpkg |
| 11:44.11 | jm_ | Powered: I remember I had to change something somewhere |
| 11:44.18 | chealer | seeeS: see "Status:Maintained" on http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/ChangeLog-2.2.26 |
| 11:44.19 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
| 11:44.46 | chealer | seeeS: however I couldn't find a CVS/similar repository for the 2.2 branch |
| 11:44.57 | Powered | jm_: So you cant help me ? :( |
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| 11:45.39 | jm_ | Powered: Debian seems to be part of M line |
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| 11:45.45 | toonX | liable found mine :) kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 |
| 11:45.58 | Powered | jm_: Ok but where in the conf file or what ? In witch ??? |
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| 11:46.13 | liable | toonX: :) |
| 11:46.35 | jm_ | Powered: ircd.conf |
| 11:46.36 | liable | yanto: what are you? |
| 11:47.01 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
| 11:47.25 | Powered | jm_: nano /etc/dancer-ircd/ircd.conf |
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| 11:47.28 | Powered | jm_: or ? |
| 11:48.15 | jm_ | Powered: well use a text editor to change it |
| 11:48.21 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
| 11:48.27 | Powered | jm_: M:irc.carding.cc:irc.carding.cc:irc.carding.cc: |
| 11:48.41 | Powered | jm_: Its someting wrong with the M ? |
| 11:48.57 | FireBox | What is the best way to compile a kernel on Debian Sarge (after menuconfig)? |
| 11:49.32 | jm_ | Powered: default is M:localhost.:127.0.0.1:Debian localhost: |
| 11:49.43 | supaman | FireBox: see the faq in the topic, or the debian reference manual on the debian homepage |
| 11:49.53 | paulswm | FireBox: Start with the Debian Reference Manual |
| 11:49.58 | paulswm | Heh |
| 11:50.06 | FireBox | supaman, paulswm: OK, thanks. |
| 11:50.13 | paulswm | FireBox: np |
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| 11:50.43 | lestest | hi there ... is it possible to have some verbose output by configure script? |
| 11:50.47 | Powered | jm: Yes but you see the M have not someting with Debian or Localhost.But in the Irc Server it have.Why ? |
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| 11:51.17 | jm_ | Powered: well it prints server's name as part of welcome line, which is set via M line |
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| 11:51.34 | Powered | jm_: Yes and in the filter it is |
| 11:51.38 | Powered | jm_: too |
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| 11:51.54 | Powered | jm_: Debian (irc.carding.cc:6667) |
| 11:51.58 | Powered | jm_: or so |
| 11:51.59 | jm_ | Powered: what filter? |
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| 11:52.14 | FireBox | paulswm: Which is better, the make-kpkg way or the make bzImage way? |
| 11:52.14 | Powered | jm_: in my mIRC klient. |
| 11:52.38 | paulswm | FireBox: make-kpkg!!!! |
| 11:52.48 | FireBox | paulswm: Whoa, calm down mate. :0 |
| 11:52.52 | jm_ | Powered: wait, what does 001 numeric actually return? |
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| 11:53.08 | maltron | firebox: no, he's right - it's far far better |
| 11:53.09 | libpcp | hi all |
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| 11:53.20 | Powered | jm_m: I dont know what you mean with that |
| 11:53.26 | Powered | jm_m: but it is like this: jm_: Powered [+eacdDfFGhHkKloRsSUvVWXyYzZ] on Debian (irc.carding.cc:6667) |
| 11:53.37 | libpcp | im trying to configure tc but im getting an error RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument when i tried to run tc qdisc add dev imq0 handle 1: root htb default 1 |
| 11:53.39 | maltron | firebox: at least, I've never successfully compiled a kernel any other way |
| 11:53.44 | libpcp | what should be the problem? |
| 11:53.51 | jm_ | Powered: I want to see the raw 001 return, this is something your IRC client displays, not what server returns |
| 11:54.03 | FireBox | maltron: OK. And running "make-kpkg kernel_image" in the root directory of the source will compile it? |
| 11:54.05 | paulswm | FireBox: make-kpkg is The Debian Way, make bzImage is the Dark Side :) |
| 11:54.21 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 11:54.21 | Powered | jm_m: The service use it too ? like this: ChanServ using irc.localnet http://www.debian.org/ |
| 11:54.33 | FireBox | paulswm: ^^ |
| 11:54.41 | maltron | firebox: you may have to add a bit for the initrd thing, if you use grub say. |
| 11:54.54 | maltron | firebox: there's acutally a really easy method to follow |
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| 11:54.57 | FireBox | maltron: Oh god, that is where I always get stuck :( |
| 11:55.06 | FireBox | maltron: Where is this method? |
| 11:55.09 | maltron | firebox: hang on - let me check where the file is |
| 11:55.17 | FireBox | malex: OK :) |
| 11:55.22 | liable | FireBox: to be truthfull, doesnt matter, you end up with the same end product, but make-kpkg is easier, and the debian way to do it. |
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| 11:55.39 | Penix | df -h |
| 11:55.41 | Penix | oops |
| 11:55.53 | FireBox | liable: I know that it would end up with the same end product, I just wanted to know the better way of doing it on Debian :) |
| 11:55.54 | paulswm | FireBox: Compile stuff you need to mount root into your kernel and you don't need initrd |
| 11:56.10 | jm_ | Powered: wait, one thing at a time, try this : echo 'NICK nickname\n\rUSER foo bar baz boo\n\r' | nc yourserver 6667 |
| 11:56.10 | petemc | liable: do you really think make-kpkg is easier? |
| 11:56.11 | maltron | firebox: have you installed kernel-package? |
| 11:56.13 | liable | FireBox: erm, well theres your answer |
| 11:56.15 | FireBox | paulswm: Such as support for my filesystem compiled in, instead of a module? |
| 11:56.24 | FireBox | maltron: Yes. |
| 11:56.25 | Phated | FireBox: Yes. |
| 11:56.32 | paulswm | FireBox: Yes. |
| 11:56.32 | FireBox | liable: yes, thanks |
| 11:56.33 | Powered | jm_: Where ? |
| 11:56.34 | maltron | okay... |
| 11:56.38 | liable | petemc: yes, why you do not? |
| 11:56.39 | yanto | HE KLM TU SAPA KOK BUANYAK TULISAN TO |
| 11:56.45 | paulswm | 752 people say "yes" |
| 11:56.51 | FireBox | paulswm: Well yes, I compiled support for ext3 as <*> |
| 11:56.58 | paulswm | yanto: balik kampong, lah |
| 11:57.07 | FireBox | paulswm: Does that mean I don't need to make an initrd? |
| 11:57.09 | jm_ | Powered: in shell, you'll need netcat, or just issue the same commands using telnet |
| 11:57.09 | JohnGH | hehehe |
| 11:57.13 | petemc | liable: not really, it is convenient, but theres not much to compiling a kernel |
| 11:57.13 | paulswm | yanto: And English only in here |
| 11:57.24 | JohnGH | paulswm: he's wrong-windowing |
| 11:57.27 | Powered | jm_: Ok.The root tell me: carding:~# echo 'NICK nickname\n\rUSER foo bar baz boo\n\r' | nc yourserver 6667 |
| 11:57.27 | Powered | -bash: nc: command not found |
| 11:57.27 | Powered | carding:~# |
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| 11:57.40 | jm_ | Powered: yes, see above and please don't paste everything! |
| 11:57.43 | maltron | firebox: go to /usr/share/kernel-package |
| 11:57.48 | maltron | read the README there |
| 11:57.51 | Powered | jm_: Ok.What is wrong ? |
| 11:57.59 | FireBox | maltron: OK. |
| 11:58.03 | jm_ | Powered: read my earlier response |
| 11:58.17 | paulswm | FireBox: Yes, correct |
| 11:58.29 | Powered | jm_: Tell me the commando I will use in the root again ? |
| 11:58.31 | JohnGH | paulswm: Probably don't have any windows in the kampong... right lah? |
| 11:58.31 | liable | petemc: well, yes, seeing as I am not actually crunching 0's and 1's, kernel compiling isnt hard, but as you say it is more convenient :) |
| 11:58.43 | FireBox | paulswm: Excellent. I'll compile it when I get back in two days time. |
| 11:58.43 | jm_ | Powered: don't run this as root, run it as user - did you read it? |
| 11:58.45 | paulswm | JohnGH: :D |
| 11:59.03 | Powered | jm_: No.But I run it now on a root.Its not the problem with the server ? |
| 11:59.19 | FireBox | Goodbye, and thanks for your help: paulswm, maltron, liable, supaman, Phated |
| 11:59.23 | jm_ | Powered: no it's not a problem with the server, it's a problem with the user |
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| 11:59.51 | Powered | jm_: Man I will run the irc server on the root now.If I give you the info the root can you chk what the problem is ? |
| 12:00.06 | maltron | firebox: my understanding is that if you have a fairly standard sarge install you will probably need to use initrd |
| 12:00.32 | liable | eh? |
| 12:00.38 | jm_ | Powered: No, don't ever do that - just answer my questions - have you read again what I said preivously? |
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| 12:00.54 | Powered | jm_: Ok.I dont know tell me that again. |
| 12:01.21 | jm_ | Powered: ok, but this is the last time I am going to repeat myself - you'll need netcat installed, or just issue the same commands using telnet |
| 12:01.50 | pfortuny | quit |
| 12:01.59 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
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| 12:02.44 | Powered | jm_: I dont understand what you mean with that ? |
| 12:03.08 | jm_ | Powered: apt-get install netcat |
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| 12:03.26 | JohnGH | paulswm: is it kampong or kampung? |
| 12:03.30 | Powered | jm_: What will I do after that ? |
| 12:03.44 | Powered | jm_: Setting up netcat (1.10-27) ... |
| 12:04.08 | jm_ | Powered: run the command again, but do not paste output!!! |
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| 12:04.21 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
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| 12:05.15 | Powered | jm_: ERROR :Closing Link: nickname\n\rUSER (Connection Timed Out) I cant connect why ? |
| 12:05.22 | JohnGH | thanks all - see you |
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| 12:05.44 | Virtual | I just installed Debian 3.1 Sarge and X and KDE but when I try to execute startx I get error, NO device detected & Fatal error: No screen found, any ideas? |
| 12:05.47 | jm_ | Powered: has it printed Welcome message before that? |
| 12:06.11 | Powered | jm_: No I dont think so. |
| 12:06.11 | jm_ | Powered: use echo -e instead of echo |
| 12:07.14 | Powered | jm_: Man listen.I dont need some client for the root to connect to my server.I need help with the Welcome text and so. |
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| 12:07.14 | jm_ | Virtual: it probably failed to detect your hardware or it's misconfigured - check the logfile |
| 12:07.26 | jm_ | Powered: yes, we're working on that - feel free to sort it out yourself if you fell you'll do it faster |
| 12:07.42 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
| 12:07.48 | directhex|work | !noscreensfound |
| 12:07.48 | dpkg | from memory, noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. |
| 12:07.59 | directhex|work | hm, not a useful factoid |
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| 12:08.04 | Powered | jm_: Can you msg when you have the answer for fix the Welcome text ? |
| 12:08.19 | directhex|work | Virtual, read /var/log/XFree86.0.log - look for likes starting (EE) |
| 12:08.23 | jm_ | Powered: uhm you'll need to give me the 001 reply |
| 12:08.36 | Powered | jm_: 001 ? how tell me ??? |
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| 12:09.02 | jm_ | Powered: run that echo command, it will show it |
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| 12:10.47 | Powered | jm_: (Connection Timed Out) it will not connect. |
| 12:11.07 | jm_ | Powered: did you enter your actual server name after the nc command? |
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| 12:11.50 | Powered | jm_: Yes. |
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| 12:12.15 | Powered | jm_: I think it work NOTICE AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response but it do Connection Timed Out. |
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| 12:12.45 | jm_ | Powered: yes, that means it connected, but it should also print 001 immediately after this |
| 12:12.57 | Powered | jm_: I dont understand. |
| 12:13.30 | Mayhem | argh, I have a filehandle still open, but I deleted a file accidentally! How can I undelete it? |
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| 12:14.29 | jm_ | Powered: is that the only thing it said? |
| 12:14.52 | Mayhem | since there is still a reference to the inodes, can I use ln to recover it? |
| 12:15.03 | jm_ | Mayhem: yes |
| 12:15.13 | jm_ | well don't use ln, use cp |
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| 12:15.43 | Mayhem | hmm. but how... |
| 12:16.01 | Powered | jm_: No. |
| 12:16.04 | jm_ | cp /proc/<pid>/fd/<fdnum> /I_OWE_JM__100_BUCKS |
| 12:16.06 | jm_ | Powered: well doh |
| 12:16.18 | Powered | jm_: NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname... |
| 12:16.18 | Powered | NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back |
| 12:16.18 | Powered | NOTICE AUTH :*** Checking ident |
| 12:16.18 | Powered | NOTICE AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response |
| 12:16.18 | Powered | PING :irc.carding.cc |
| 12:16.18 | Powered | ERROR :Closing Link: nickname\n\rUSER (Connection Timed Out) |
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| 12:16.27 | jm_ | Powered: are you dumb? I told you not to paste |
| 12:16.42 | Powered | dm_: But you wanted to know what it told me ? |
| 12:16.46 | LoneTech | there's something off with my xmodmap. xmodmap -pk shows Super_L as keycodes 127 and 115, and xmodmap -pm shows Mod4 as Super_L (0x7f).. why is 0x73 left out? xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_L" fixes it :/ |
| 12:16.48 | jm_ | Powered: did you change echo to echo -e |
| 12:17.00 | Mayhem | jm_, do you accept credit cards? :) Thanks! |
| 12:17.04 | jm_ | Mayhem: ejoy |
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| 12:17.23 | tarzeau | please don't be dumb yet, there's still some hours to go until weekend |
| 12:17.29 | jm_ | hehe |
| 12:17.30 | Powered | jm_: No. |
| 12:17.36 | jm_ | Powered: do it |
| 12:18.01 | Powered | jm_: Ok done. |
| 12:18.04 | Powered | jm_: Now it work. |
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| 12:18.22 | jm_ | Powered: ok, now show me just the 001 line, it looks like this -- :server 001 your nick :Welcome ... |
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| 12:19.59 | Powered | jm_: Ok.:irc.carding.cc 001 nickname :Welcome to the Debian dancer-ircd Network nickname |
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| 12:20.56 | jm_ | Powered: hmm which version of dancer-ircd is this? |
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| 12:21.38 | thomas_adam | LoneTech: Because it's setup like that./ |
| 12:21.48 | Powered | jm_: dancer-ircd-1.0.36 I think. |
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| 12:22.13 | jm_ | Powered: that one should print freenode IRC |
| 12:22.16 | jeje | bonjour |
| 12:22.27 | sep | can i somehow convert an old mysql MYD file into a text file, |
| 12:22.36 | Powered | jm_: What do you mean ? |
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| 12:22.43 | jm_ | Powered: I mean what I said |
| 12:22.54 | jeje | does anyone speak french ? |
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| 12:23.04 | Powered | jm_: Ok but what should I do ? |
| 12:23.16 | PeTeRB | !fr |
| 12:23.16 | chealer | !fr |
| 12:23.17 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 12:23.40 | jm_ | Powered: you're right, it actually prints Debian dancer-ircd |
| 12:23.57 | chimun | when i try to ssh out, i am getting this error: "PRNG is not seeded". I suspect this is something to do with /dev/random and/or /dev/urandom. how can i fix this? |
| 12:24.06 | Powered | jm_: Ok ? |
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| 12:25.02 | jm_ | Powered: let me check how to fix it |
| 12:25.16 | Powered | jm_: Ok. |
| 12:25.42 | jm_ | Powered: ahh yes, it's somewhat tricky |
| 12:25.54 | Powered | jm_: What do you mean ? |
| 12:26.02 | jm_ | Powered: requires editing source files |
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| 12:26.24 | Powered | jm_: I dont understand man tell me witch commando I will use ? |
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| 12:27.41 | jm_ | Powered: I am not sure if I have the patience to do that |
| 12:27.55 | petemc | jm_: you've done alright so far :) |
| 12:27.58 | Powered | jm_: Why ? |
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| 12:28.06 | jm_ | Powered: because you're vastly inexperienced |
| 12:28.15 | Powered | jm_: But plz tell me. |
| 12:28.18 | paulswm | And this isn't really a debian issue |
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| 12:28.45 | jm_ | Powered: you'll need to get the source package, edit the files, build the deb and then install that |
| 12:29.01 | Powered | jm_: Install what ? |
| 12:29.08 | jm_ | Powered: see? |
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| 12:29.21 | paulswm | !prize jm_ |
| 12:29.24 | Powered | jm_: Plz only tell me the commando for do it ? |
| 12:29.36 | paulswm | I feel a new qotd coming on |
| 12:29.41 | petemc | great movie, commando |
| 12:29.43 | jm_ | Powered: it takes a lot of commands |
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| 12:29.54 | Powered | jm_: But tell me step for step plz man. |
| 12:29.56 | maltron | commando: "I had to let him go" |
| 12:30.00 | petemc | heh |
| 12:30.08 | petemc | its full of classy one liners |
| 12:30.16 | pngwn | Powered, get out the visa or mastercard |
| 12:30.24 | jm_ | Powered: well apt-get source dancer-ircd |
| 12:30.26 | Powered | pngwn: What ? |
| 12:30.53 | pngwn | Powered, pay someone to do it for you |
| 12:30.55 | maltron | petemc: aren't they all? |
| 12:30.57 | Powered | jm_: Then ? |
| 12:31.06 | jm_ | Powered: apt-get build-dep dancer-ircd |
| 12:31.09 | Powered | pngwn: Why ? This is a support channel. |
| 12:31.16 | jm_ | haha |
| 12:31.18 | jm_ | class |
| 12:31.22 | Powered | hehehe |
| 12:31.50 | pngwn | Powered, usually support doesn't work if you don't have a clue ;) |
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| 12:32.03 | Powered | pngwn: Ok. :) |
| 12:32.10 | Powered | ;* |
| 12:32.13 | fas3r | hi all |
| 12:32.15 | toresbe | Powered: what are you trying to do? |
| 12:32.18 | fas3r | jethro, it's greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttt |
| 12:32.24 | Powered | toresbe ? |
| 12:32.29 | jethro | !win fas3r |
| 12:32.29 | dpkg | Congratulations, fas3r! You have won the US presidency! |
| 12:32.39 | toresbe | Powered: What are you trying to achieve, I'm just asking :) |
| 12:32.45 | jethro | fas3r: so you ended up using a debian kernel image? |
| 12:32.48 | zOap | Powered, also, none of the guys here get paied to help you. They do this because they are nice... |
| 12:32.54 | Powered | toresbe: I have already one to help me. |
| 12:32.59 | paulswm | toresbe: scroll back before you put us through it again :) |
| 12:33.00 | Powered | zOap: Ok. :) |
| 12:33.06 | toresbe | paulswm: heheh, okay |
| 12:33.23 | fas3r | no i have recompiling my kernel |
| 12:33.31 | toresbe | zOap! :) |
| 12:33.41 | zOap | toresebe! |
| 12:33.50 | zOap | toresbe, !! |
| 12:33.54 | fas3r | but my error was i dont add the psmouse modules on /etc/modules |
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| 12:34.26 | jethro | fas3r: ok |
| 12:35.01 | fas3r | but now, i have a over problem, my sound card was not install when i reboot |
| 12:35.09 | fas3r | i also make all time alsaconf |
| 12:35.24 | fas3r | it's possible to make it automaticly |
| 12:35.30 | fas3r | ? |
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| 12:36.19 | PeTeRB | fas3r: Run alsactl store |
| 12:36.27 | fas3r | ok |
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| 12:37.12 | PeTeRB | fas3r: It should create /var/lib/alsa/asound.state |
| 12:37.18 | fas3r | it's possible i add a script with alsactrl store in runlevel 2 ( startup) |
| 12:37.27 | PeTeRB | fas3r: You don't need to |
| 12:37.44 | fas3r | ha ok |
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| 12:37.52 | fas3r | PeTeRB, ok thank |
| 12:37.55 | liable | fas3r: run alsaconf, first, then alsmixer, then alsactrl store |
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| 12:38.44 | fas3r | ok thank all |
| 12:38.49 | fas3r | i go to testing this |
| 12:38.49 | PeTeRB | !typosmite liable |
| 12:39.16 | Powered | jm_: And after that ? |
| 12:39.18 | jethro | !irritate liable |
| 12:39.18 | liable | heh, typing was never my best quality |
| 12:39.19 | dpkg | liable: HELP ME!!! who uses gnome plz msg me, jbl |
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| 12:39.21 | kullanici | hi.. |
| 12:39.27 | liable | !eat jethro |
| 12:39.35 | kullanici | how can i force install php4 via apt-get |
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| 12:40.01 | PeTeRB | kullanici: Force? |
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| 12:40.06 | kullanici | overwrite |
| 12:40.08 | jm_ | Powered: cd dancer-ircd-1.0.36; then edit include/config.h.debian file and find that string, replace it with your onw, make sure it stays in quotes and on one line, then you have to build the package |
| 12:40.38 | PeTeRB | kullanici: You want to reinstall? |
| 12:40.54 | kullanici | PeTeRB yes |
| 12:41.08 | Powered | jm_: Ok thanks. |
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| 12:41.22 | PeTeRB | kullanici: apt-get --reinstall install |
| 12:41.23 | jm_ | Powered: you an use dpkg-buildpackage or debuild to build it, it will be in .. |
| 12:41.33 | jm_ | can even |
| 12:41.34 | kullanici | hm thanks |
| 12:42.28 | PeTeRB | kullanici: Guess what. It's in the manpage... |
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| 12:44.07 | toonX | liable i get this error ,when trying apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 , E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 12:44.30 | streuner_ | toonX: did you interrupt the install process? |
| 12:44.39 | fas3r | re |
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| 12:44.49 | kino | sorry for noob question, I'm stuck in a "Configuring Locales" menu, I can't seem to hit the <Ok> button what do I press to move on |
| 12:44.58 | petemc | kino: tab |
| 12:45.12 | kino | not working.. uhg |
| 12:45.17 | petemc | then enter, prolly |
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| 12:45.30 | kino | oh wait.. my terminal was in silent mode |
| 12:45.34 | kino | ^^ |
| 12:45.43 | toonX | streuner_ no, it interrupted itself showing me this message about not having initrd |
| 12:45.55 | kino | petemc: thx |
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| 12:46.19 | streuner_ | toonX: initrd tools aren't prolly installed |
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| 12:46.32 | fas3r | sorry |
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| 12:46.33 | liable | toonX: strange. |
| 12:46.55 | streuner_ | toonX: dpkg -l initrd-tools | grep -1 |
| 12:47.02 | liable | streuner: for installing a debian image, is necessary? |
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| 12:47.15 | arturaz_ | how is it, that viewcvs package doesn't contain cgi scripts? |
| 12:47.31 | pem3v78 | is there a way to send messages to other users logged onto the same machine ? |
| 12:47.32 | jm_ | well kernel-image packages depend on it |
| 12:47.34 | streuner_ | toonX: dpkg -l initrd-tools | tail -1 |
| 12:47.40 | PeTeRB | fas3r: Does it work now? |
| 12:47.42 | jm_ | pem3v78: write |
| 12:47.44 | bcole | pem3v78: yes, but i foget how |
| 12:47.47 | streuner_ | liable: yse |
| 12:47.49 | streuner_ | liable: yes |
| 12:47.54 | pem3v78 | tnx |
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| 12:48.08 | nvz | sr |
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| 12:48.16 | nvz | streuner_: break it in reall good |
| 12:48.37 | fas3r | i have make alsactl store but for the option <card> i make what? |
| 12:48.40 | streuner_ | nvz: its not a german keyboard so i have to learn... |
| 12:48.46 | nvz | heh |
| 12:49.02 | streuner_ | nvz: the chars are different on this keyboard |
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| 12:49.05 | DooMRunneR | hi |
| 12:49.13 | streuner_ | on different places |
| 12:49.13 | PeTeRB | streuner_: I had it the other way around once :| |
| 12:49.23 | DooMRunneR | some questions |
| 12:49.40 | DooMRunneR | i have a chroot system from a knoppix cd |
| 12:49.52 | PeTeRB | fas3r: It should work without the card number |
| 12:49.56 | DooMRunneR | i want to install hplip-base in that chroot |
| 12:50.11 | DooMRunneR | but i get this error: |
| 12:50.11 | jethro | DooMRunneR: /j #knoppix |
| 12:50.15 | PeTeRB | !knoppix |
| 12:50.15 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or no more debian then mandrake is redhat. |
| 12:50.15 | DooMRunneR | spam protected channel? |
| 12:50.22 | fas3r | PeTeRB, ok thx |
| 12:50.26 | DooMRunneR | :) |
| 12:50.39 | DooMRunneR | those guys cant help me |
| 12:50.42 | PeTeRB | DooMRunneR: Kind of. |
| 12:50.46 | jethro | !they don't know |
| 12:50.46 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 12:51.03 | jethro | DooMRunneR: you're off topic in #debian. we won't help |
| 12:51.30 | streuner_ | DooMRunneR: just install debian - /msg dpkg d-i |
| 12:51.40 | liable | streuner: hmm, so it does, why wouldnt apt pull it in? |
| 12:51.53 | liable | toonX: how did you try and install it? |
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| 12:52.14 | streuner_ | liable: usually it does, i have no idea why he didnt have initrd-tools installed |
| 12:52.20 | liable | yup |
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| 12:52.57 | streuner_ | liable: prolly he download the kernel-image itself and used dpkg... |
| 12:53.13 | liable | streuner: thats what i'm thinking |
| 12:53.16 | streuner_ | s/download/downloaded/ |
| 12:53.24 | DooMRunneR | i should try google? |
| 12:53.26 | DooMRunneR | for what? |
| 12:53.28 | DooMRunneR | for this? |
| 12:53.29 | DooMRunneR | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 12:53.29 | DooMRunneR | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| 12:53.29 | DooMRunneR | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.29 | DooMRunneR | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:53.35 | liable | doh |
| 12:53.45 | streuner_ | dumbrunner |
| 12:53.50 | liable | heh |
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| 12:54.03 | PeTeRB | streuner_: At least he doesn't have an auto rejoin :) |
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| 12:54.09 | jethro | !moron DooMRunneR |
| 12:54.10 | dpkg | DooMRunneR: You are moron #44 |
| 12:54.11 | streuner_ | petemc: hehe |
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| 12:54.25 | petemc | etoomanypetes |
| 12:54.39 | streuner_ | PeTeRB: hehe |
| 12:54.44 | nvz | heh |
| 12:54.46 | fas3r | PeTeRB, where i found the card number? |
| 12:54.52 | DooMRunneR | im just angry |
| 12:55.02 | DooMRunneR | shit wont work |
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| 12:55.13 | streuner_ | !d-i DooMRunneR |
| 12:55.14 | dpkg | DooMRunneR, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 12:55.53 | maltron | doomrunner, you'll find that enterring in streams of error messages into google is a great way to get help |
| 12:55.59 | maltron | works for me all the time |
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| 12:56.38 | maltron | chances are that there's a list somewhere that has already dealt with the issue |
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| 12:58.15 | PeTeRB | RichiH: Bubbling, eh? |
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| 12:59.27 | bobtheimp | This may be somewhat off-topic, and if so - please feel free to flame :-) - has anyone got any hints regarding using a Debian NIS server with various Debian/Solaris machines? |
| 12:59.38 | bobtheimp | Solaris does not appear to like shadow passwords by NIS |
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| 13:00.59 | jethro | !flame bobtheimp |
| 13:00.59 | dpkg | bobtheimp: YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 13:01.04 | petemc | heh |
| 13:01.06 | bcole | lmao |
| 13:01.17 | jethro | bobtheimp: never ask for it :p |
| 13:02.27 | bobtheimp | Just thought I'd ask... |
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| 13:02.46 | bcole | i have no experience with NIS sorry |
| 13:03.10 | seeeS | never used NIS, but i have ldap working with solaris and linux |
| 13:03.19 | bobtheimp | I've got 6 debian boxes all using NIS happily, but the Solaris boxen can't authenticate with the shadow passwords... |
| 13:03.20 | seeeS | and tacacs for that matter |
| 13:03.25 | bobtheimp | I had thought about using LDAP |
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| 13:03.35 | tarzeau | bobtheimp: we use NIS for debian , os x and swindows |
| 13:03.44 | tarzeau | bobtheimp: you really mean nis and not nis+, right? |
| 13:03.55 | bobtheimp | Yep, just plain old NIS |
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| 13:04.12 | tarzeau | bobtheimp: you said you got crypt passwords not md5, right? |
| 13:04.18 | Peaker | Can the gateway to "route add" be a mac address instead of an ip address? |
| 13:04.18 | bobtheimp | Would it be hard to move the NIS setup to LDAP possibly... |
| 13:04.23 | bobtheimp | Solaris is using md5 |
| 13:04.34 | tarzeau | bobtheimp: it doesn't scale well |
| 13:04.36 | seeeS | peak: no, but arp can |
| 13:04.41 | tarzeau | bobtheimp: solaris uses crypted passwords |
| 13:04.49 | tarzeau | bobtheimp: unless you've broken something terribly |
| 13:04.51 | bobtheimp | Solaris 9 and 10 allow you to use md5 |
| 13:04.53 | seeeS | peaker or just add a route to be via the host with the mac |
| 13:04.55 | Peaker | seeeS: yes, but is arp consulted for addresses that are not on any of the itnerfaces I have? |
| 13:04.56 | tarzeau | seeeS: you here in the user channel? |
| 13:05.09 | tarzeau | bobtheimp: maybe that doesn't work well? did you check if it really works? |
| 13:05.13 | seeeS | tarzeau: yes, i wander down here about once ever 3 weeks |
| 13:05.22 | Peaker | seeeS: Well I already have a combined arp/route trick to do it (because Windows has the same problem) |
| 13:05.25 | c0al | Hi everyone, I'm a long time redhat / fedora user (6 years). I'm wanting to try out debian, and i wondered what i should download. the whole 7 cd set? I've heard deb. users say that you should use the "testing" releases, etc. Any one have suggestions? |
| 13:05.28 | tarzeau | seeeS: thanks, supertransball2 got accepted |
| 13:05.39 | tarzeau | c0al: just use the first |
| 13:05.40 | Peaker | seeeS: My problem is that I have several computers that have IP's on different subnets (dhcp-configured by internet modem) |
| 13:05.43 | seeeS | peaker: arp is for hosts within the subnet, route for ones outaside it |
| 13:05.43 | tarzeau | !d-i |
| 13:05.44 | dpkg | i heard d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 13:05.48 | tarzeau | c0al: get d-i |
| 13:05.55 | bobtheimp | It apears to ... if I don't use shadow pwds it's fine, but if I try to enable shadow NIS auth fails on the solaris machines |
| 13:05.59 | c0al | tarzeau, just the first install cd? of the 7 cd set? |
| 13:06.07 | tarzeau | Peaker: s,sub,,1 |
| 13:06.10 | Peaker | seeeS: physically, all the computers are in the same subnet, but logically not, thus I need to "trick" it into thinking specific computers on the different subnet are in fact in same subnet |
| 13:06.23 | bcole | c0al: the first cd, or the netinstall if you have a nice internet connection |
| 13:06.25 | tarzeau | c0al: yes, and the one for your arch, and not the source one |
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| 13:06.53 | tarzeau | Peaker: why do you call it subnet, when it really is just net |
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| 13:06.59 | seeeS | peaker: why not either fix it or make one host multinet |
| 13:07.20 | Peaker | seeeS: What I do already and works, is a terrible hack: arp -S fake-ip-in-logical-subnet his-mac ; route add his-real-ip fake-ip |
| 13:07.29 | c0al | tarzeau, so just the CD1 .iso from this page: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/torrents/i386/ should work for me? |
| 13:07.39 | tarzeau | c0al: no, get the d-i one |
| 13:07.41 | tarzeau | !d-i |
| 13:07.41 | dpkg | well, d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see debian-boot@lists.debian.org, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer> |
| 13:07.42 | Peaker | tarzeau: well, physically its a net and logically its a subnet then? |
| 13:07.48 | Peaker | seeeS: fix it? how? |
| 13:07.56 | seeeS | peaker: why not make it all in the same subnet? |
| 13:08.03 | tarzeau | c0al: ah sorry ,that's testing, yes that'll work |
| 13:08.08 | Peaker | seeeS: my internet modem allocates 3 ip's and they cant be guaranteed to be in same subnet |
| 13:08.08 | tarzeau | Peaker: no |
| 13:08.15 | tarzeau | Peaker: it's always just a network |
| 13:08.24 | Peaker | tarzeau: "network" is a broader term than I mean |
| 13:08.26 | seeeS | peaker: are they real IP or private? |
| 13:08.32 | Peaker | seeeS: real IP's |
| 13:08.38 | Peaker | seeeS: I get 3 real IP's from my ISP |
| 13:08.41 | c0al | tarzeau, so this link: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/torrents/i386/ is what i should use? |
| 13:08.45 | tarzeau | Peaker: you mean internet i guess |
| 13:08.50 | seeeS | and you're makign your printer have a real IP? |
| 13:08.59 | bcole | c0al: that will work fine if its testing branch |
| 13:09.05 | Peaker | seeeS: No no, we are 3 roommates and we all get real IP's in the internet |
| 13:09.05 | tarzeau | c0al: yes that's fine |
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| 13:09.10 | tarzeau | bcole: it is |
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| 13:09.17 | c0al | tarzeau, thanks much! :) |
| 13:09.29 | Peaker | seeeS: And the problem is - since they are not on the same logical subnet (which is configured class C) we have to communicate to each other via the router, even though we are on the same switch |
| 13:09.39 | jsial | any gimp guru around? |
| 13:09.51 | tarzeau | jsial: just ask |
| 13:09.55 | Peaker | seeeS: (communication between us normally goes through the isp, which is very slow) |
| 13:09.56 | seeeS | peaker: i'd multi-net them. one dhcp address, one private |
| 13:10.12 | jsial | ever try to overlay a gif animated image onto a jpg one? |
| 13:10.18 | Peaker | seeeS: I'd ip-alias them too, but some of the comps are windows :-( |
| 13:10.27 | Peaker | seeeS: Windows does not support ip-aliasing when dhcp is on.. arbitrary restriction |
| 13:10.46 | c0al | tarzeau: so is the rest installed from the 'net after i install the first CD ? |
| 13:10.51 | Peaker | I guess the arp/route-trick is the only way around it that will also support windows |
| 13:10.53 | seeeS | arp wont fix it for you because the routing decison says send it out to the router |
| 13:10.58 | tarzeau | c0al: if you choose so |
| 13:11.06 | liable | jsial: werent you told to ask #gimp? |
| 13:11.10 | Peaker | seeeS: I know, that's why I add an arp entry and also a route entry |
| 13:11.11 | tarzeau | c0al: maybe you don't need any more software than what's on cd 1 |
| 13:11.13 | seeeS | well, two ethernet cards would fix it |
| 13:11.25 | jsial | liable, no. |
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| 13:11.38 | Peaker | seeeS: arp -s my-subnet.fake-ip his-real-mac ; route add his-real-ip my-subnet.fake-ip |
| 13:11.41 | tarzeau | jsial: what do you really want to do? |
| 13:11.42 | c0al | ah, okay thanks. the only special software i really use is gtKam for my digital camera |
| 13:11.57 | Peaker | seeeS: this actually works (I tried it between the windows machines) its an awful trick though :) |
| 13:11.58 | tarzeau | jsial: don't ask what others have tried. tell what you want to achive |
| 13:12.03 | Peaker | seeeS: (I am kinda proud of inventing it though :) |
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| 13:12.08 | seeeS | ah i see, yes it is evil but it works |
| 13:12.09 | jsial | tarzeau, coming. |
| 13:12.31 | tarzeau | c0al: gtk2 gtkam .. i really hate the path file open/save dialogs. tried camera.app yet? |
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| 13:12.51 | Peaker | seeeS: Now my only problem is doing this automatically.. the ip's are changing.. |
| 13:13.08 | seeeS | in /etc/network/interfaces have an up line |
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| 13:13.25 | seeeS | up arp -s your evilness |
| 13:13.32 | seeeS | up route your evilness |
| 13:13.34 | bcole | is samba the best way to mount a drive on a windows pc? |
| 13:13.34 | jsial | i have a jpg image and a smaller gif animated image. i want to overlay the gif onto the jpg in several places. don't know how even after reading 'help' of gimp. |
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| 13:14.00 | seeeS | bcole: the simplest yes |
| 13:14.01 | jm_ | jsial: you can't use samba to do that |
| 13:14.03 | tarzeau | bcole: probably |
| 13:14.08 | jm_ | ups |
| 13:14.08 | c0al | tarzeau, i hadn't heard of camera.app |
| 13:14.14 | jm_ | jsial: sorry, that wasn't for you |
| 13:14.24 | seeeS | jsial: well they are different type images, it is possible to do |
| 13:14.32 | c0al | But i'll deffinitely look into it.. i had a few frustrations with gtkam |
| 13:14.53 | seeeS | jsial: the jpg needs to be converted into a gif as you cannot animate jpeg |
| 13:14.57 | jsial | seeeS, may i know how? |
| 13:15.06 | abydos | jsial: i'd use gimp |
| 13:15.09 | seeeS | you use layers |
| 13:15.11 | tarzeau | jsial: ctrl-l for layers |
| 13:15.23 | abydos | jsial: open it in gimp and add layers and save as gif |
| 13:15.24 | tarzeau | abydos: he doesn't know how to use it |
| 13:15.31 | seeeS | layers in gimp, with the jpeg converted and put into the lowest layer. i think animations are layers too |
| 13:15.38 | abydos | tarzeau: blimey, gimp is about as intuitive as it comes |
| 13:15.46 | tarzeau | seeeS: yes they are |
| 13:15.53 | abydos | tarzeau: besides MSPaint that is |
| 13:15.59 | seeeS | its not often i create gifs! |
| 13:16.03 | tarzeau | abydos: i liked deluxe paint |
| 13:16.13 | tarzeau | seeeS: it's still in non-free i think |
| 13:16.14 | abydos | tarzeau: never heard of it. |
| 13:16.16 | seeeS | ahhh deluxe paint iV |
| 13:16.19 | jm_ | yeah deluxe paint was nice, or art studio ;) |
| 13:16.26 | jsial | i have gone through layers in gimp. the hard part is when i drag the gif over to the jpg, it always end up in the center only, no where else. |
| 13:16.29 | abydos | I have Aldus SuperPaint for my mac |
| 13:16.57 | seeeS | have to get the image resized so they both match the pixel size |
| 13:17.04 | maltron | seeeS: pffft - deluxe paint - what about NeoChrome? ;-) |
| 13:17.09 | tarzeau | jm_, seeeS: have you guys tried packages.debian.org/schism yet? |
| 13:17.09 | bcole | seeeS, tarzeau: what other options besides samba would i have? do you know? |
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| 13:17.20 | tarzeau | bcole: none |
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| 13:17.23 | abydos | bcole: for what? |
| 13:17.39 | seeeS | bcole: for occasional but secure stuff there is winscp |
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| 13:18.02 | abydos | bcole: are you trying to copy files from windows to linux (or vice-versa?) |
| 13:18.07 | tarzeau | bcole: also ftp/lftp works fine |
| 13:18.11 | bcole | abydos: not really i use ftp for that |
| 13:18.28 | abydos | bcole: what then? |
| 13:18.33 | TinoW | ftp? I use sftp for that |
| 13:18.34 | bcole | i more or less wanted to mount it for "direct" sharing |
| 13:18.38 | abydos | Oh. |
| 13:18.41 | seeeS | eww, ftp |
| 13:18.42 | tarzeau | TinoW: way slower! |
| 13:18.46 | abydos | there's this complex way to do it |
| 13:18.54 | TinoW | tarzeau: dont care. Way simpler and secure |
| 13:18.54 | abydos | it's called using netatalk |
| 13:19.01 | abydos | and the windows atalk client |
| 13:19.06 | seeeS | netatalk?! |
| 13:19.08 | TinoW | or use irc/dcc :) |
| 13:19.09 | tarzeau | TinoW: it's not simpler, just encryptted |
| 13:19.11 | seeeS | the apple protocol |
| 13:19.11 | bcole | eh, ill just use samba |
| 13:19.17 | TinoW | tarzeau: it is way simpler to set up |
| 13:19.19 | abydos | but that's not native on either platform and it's a noisy mutha***ka |
| 13:19.38 | seeeS | dont patch the windows box and go looking on #hacked-warez ? |
| 13:20.04 | abydos | bcole: I think there are also nfs clients for windows, but the ones that don't suck are pay software or use cygwin |
| 13:20.20 | jsial | more details. i open the jpg image and the gif image. then go over to layers. then move all the frames of the gif image over to the jpg. i save up the result as a gif file. it works but only in the center, how to overlay the gif to other part of the jpg? |
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| 13:20.39 | richih_ | PeTeRB, haha |
| 13:20.39 | directhex|work | microsoft services for unix 3.5 is freeware, and includes NFS serving & clienting |
| 13:20.45 | bcole | abydos: yeah i just googled for that and didnt come up with much |
| 13:20.50 | tarzeau | jsial: move the right images in the right layers? |
| 13:20.53 | abydos | directhex|work: that was the other one I was thinking of, thanks |
| 13:20.53 | TinoW | bcole: you can also abuse svn or at least use apache mod_webdav and explorer webfolder feature |
| 13:20.53 | bcole | directhex|work: thank you |
| 13:20.55 | seeeS | microsoft unix services has lots of problems |
| 13:21.11 | directhex|work | never said it didn;t, but it's free & has NFS stuffs |
| 13:21.12 | jsial | tarzeau, sorry, don't get it. |
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| 13:21.14 | abydos | bcole: SFU has problems though, it eats memory like a badly-written java app |
| 13:21.22 | bcole | lmao |
| 13:21.22 | abydos | directhex|work: so is (and does) cygwin |
| 13:21.35 | tarzeau | abydos: maybe it is a badly written java app? :) |
| 13:21.35 | seeeS | yeah, for most people samba does the job |
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| 13:21.38 | smurfy | hi all |
| 13:21.50 | abydos | tarzeau: that honestly hadn't occurred to me, but it's probably right |
| 13:21.56 | seeeS | tarzeau: MS wrote it, of course its badly written |
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| 13:22.18 | smurfy | i have 2 squid running i want the second to take cache from first one any one have idea? |
| 13:22.19 | seeeS | no java, perhaps C#? |
| 13:22.28 | seeeS | smurfd: sibling caches |
| 13:22.29 | abydos | seeeS: MS writes shitty software but their input devices kick the pants off everything but logitech |
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| 13:22.42 | smurfy | <seeeS> i thought it's parent |
| 13:22.42 | Eclipser | is there a program to generate random passwords? |
| 13:22.45 | seeeS | abydos: you mean mice and keyboard? |
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| 13:22.56 | abydos | seeeS: sidewinder joysticks too |
| 13:22.57 | seeeS | smurfd: parent means one-way |
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| 13:23.06 | petemc | Eclipser: mkpasswd, perhaps - i use perls silly::werder |
| 13:23.08 | jsial | so far, i do not have to create new layers. i use the jpg as background image and drag-and-drop the layers from the gif. |
| 13:23.08 | smurfy | seeeS cache_peer 172.16.0.1 parent 8080 0 no-query default |
| 13:23.08 | seeeS | ecl: pwgen |
| 13:23.10 | smurfy | right |
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| 13:23.35 | Eclipser | petemc, seeeS, thanks |
| 13:23.43 | PeTeRB | richih_: Slow-motion? :D |
| 13:24.03 | smurfy | seeeS i have 2 upstreem from my isp and i want to put them in my squid.conf and i don;'t know how |
| 13:24.04 | seeeS | smurfy: turning on the digest is supposed to help too |
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| 13:24.18 | seeeS | smurfy: two parent ones to you? |
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| 13:24.42 | angkringan | join /jogja |
| 13:24.48 | angkringan | join /#jogja |
| 13:24.53 | PeTeRB | angkringan: No. |
| 13:25.02 | smurfy | my isp have 2 squid boxes and i build my own squid now and i want to take queries ( cache ) from them |
| 13:25.02 | Phated | angkringan: Eh, /join, not join /# . |
| 13:25.04 | abydos | angkringan: slash goes at beginning |
| 13:25.06 | jsial | abydos, after creating a new layer, how to put an existing gif image onto it? |
| 13:25.20 | angkringan | ksf |
| 13:25.21 | abydos | jsial: err, let me fire up gimp |
| 13:25.24 | seeeS | smurfy: ok, then its two parent caches to your child then |
| 13:25.26 | angkringan | hai |
| 13:25.40 | echion | anyone having experince with the raid-controller on the ibm eserver 326? |
| 13:25.41 | angkringan | hi abidos |
| 13:25.45 | jm_ | smurfd: cache_peer lines |
| 13:25.46 | jsial | abydos, ok, i'll wait. |
| 13:26.04 | smurfy | ok 10x but what's difference between parent and child ????? |
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| 13:26.17 | seeeS | children ask parents for items |
| 13:26.18 | abydos | ok jsial, in the file menu there's a place called open as layer |
| 13:26.27 | smurfy | jm cache 172.16.0.1 parent 8080 0 no-query default |
| 13:26.29 | smurfy | right |
| 13:26.30 | seeeS | siblings ask each other |
| 13:26.36 | angkringan | what |
| 13:26.45 | angkringan | i dont look |
| 13:26.52 | smurfy | mmm so i must put cache_peer 172.16.0.1 parent 8080 0 no-query default |
| 13:26.54 | smurfy | right |
| 13:26.57 | angkringan | ok jayson |
| 13:27.00 | angkringan | bye |
| 13:27.05 | seeeS | smurfy: yes |
| 13:27.10 | abydos | seeeS: and if parents screw children it's a bad thing, whereas kids screwing parents happens daily (though in a somewhat more metaphorical sense) |
| 13:27.10 | jsial | abydos, with that i should be able to open my gif as a layer? |
| 13:27.13 | smurfy | :D |
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| 13:27.18 | abydos | jsial: should be. |
| 13:27.25 | smurfy | seeeS do u know any thing about isa server? |
| 13:27.26 | jsial | abydos, let me try. |
| 13:27.32 | seeeS | smurft: possibly round-robin too |
| 13:27.38 | sorny | is there a specific channel for deb ppc? |
| 13:27.40 | jsial | thks for yur time,. |
| 13:27.50 | angkringan | 172.16.0.1 who |
| 13:27.55 | abydos | jsial: it's no biggie, any time |
| 13:27.58 | petemc | sorny: debian-ppc |
| 13:28.03 | smurfy | is my isp |
| 13:28.05 | petemc | or maybe its debianppc |
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| 13:28.18 | sorny | thanks, it was debian-ppc |
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| 13:28.27 | abydos | petemc: I believe there's a dash in it |
| 13:28.30 | seeeS | smurfy: i think you need to replace default with round-robin |
| 13:28.32 | PeTeRB | richih_: Hah |
| 13:29.11 | seeeS | anyhow sleep time |
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| 13:29.23 | smurfy | its default |
| 13:29.24 | smurfy | cache_peer 172.16.0.1 parent 8080 0 no-query default |
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| 13:29.26 | smurfy | look |
| 13:29.48 | abydos | does anyone know how well Creative Audigy2 cards' firewire ports work under debian+ |
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| 13:30.58 | Virtual_ | Can anybody help me to install the ATI drivers please? I downloaded the packaged and did dpkg -i on it but now what? |
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| 13:31.39 | seeeS | smurfy: that should work |
| 13:31.49 | smurfy | ok 10x seeeS |
| 13:31.59 | smurfy | and for all |
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| 13:32.41 | richih_ | hehe |
| 13:33.08 | PeTeRB | richih_: It's good to have reverse gravity in bonus levels :P |
| 13:33.09 | maltron | Virtual_: welcome to a world of pain! |
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| 13:33.18 | richih_ | PeTeRB, indeed |
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| 13:33.43 | sciboy | Well something is royally messed up. |
| 13:33.49 | takatumi | Virtual_: which guide are you following? |
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| 13:34.21 | maltron | Virtual_: ok, go to /lib/modules |
| 13:34.32 | sciboy | Ok, i am having an issue, most likely caused by some packages that were installed during my last dist-upgrade |
| 13:34.39 | sciboy | How can i find out which packages these are? |
| 13:34.50 | jethro | !tell sciboy -about search |
| 13:35.13 | PeTeRB | richih_: It got stuck :| |
| 13:35.18 | sciboy | jethro: Not helpful what so ever. |
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| 13:36.06 | takatumi | sciboy: are you using aptitude? |
| 13:36.06 | jethro | sciboy: if you use aptitude, it has a log. otherwise, you'll end up guessing |
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| 13:36.18 | sciboy | takatumi: Nope, just straight off apt-get. |
| 13:36.32 | jethro | sciboy: also, you're talking about dist-upgrade, are you using unstable? |
| 13:36.44 | ChrisW | trying to run a script from a cron job, I get an error: "bad interpreter: No such file or directory" |
| 13:36.45 | PeTeRB | !test |
| 13:36.45 | dpkg | Sorry, peterb, I didn't get your test. |
| 13:36.49 | sciboy | jethro: Yup, and problem like this are to be expected. |
| 13:36.55 | takatumi | sciboy: aptitude will give you logs, you don't get any with apt-get |
| 13:36.55 | ChrisW | this used to work fine, and just suddenly stopped working one night |
| 13:36.55 | jethro | !unstable |
| 13:36.55 | dpkg | unstable is, like, the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. See testing. see sid |
| 13:36.58 | ChrisW | any ideas? |
| 13:37.04 | Virtual_ | maltron |
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| 13:37.06 | Virtual_ | kernel includes at /usr/src/linux/include not found or incomplete |
| 13:37.06 | Virtual_ | file: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h |
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| 13:37.20 | sciboy | jethro: However i think it is more likely these packages came off one of the unofficial apt repositories i got in my sources.list |
| 13:37.34 | jethro | sciboy: blame yourself then |
| 13:37.40 | ChrisW | !arse |
| 13:37.40 | dpkg | arse is probably something you shit out of. what?! |
| 13:37.45 | ChrisW | :-) |
| 13:37.45 | sciboy | jethro: I am not looking to blame. |
| 13:37.46 | liable | Virtual: why are you using the ati drivers? |
| 13:37.49 | sciboy | I am looking to fix my error. |
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| 13:38.16 | jethro | sciboy: unstable is not supported here, in genreal. and unstable problems linked to unofficial sources are even less |
| 13:38.18 | Virtual_ | liable, maybe because i have a ATI Radeon 9250 ? |
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| 13:39.06 | sciboy | jethro: I am looking for help to locate the source of the problem, what to do other that is my own to handle. |
| 13:39.18 | sciboy | after that* |
| 13:39.21 | maltron | Virtual_: have you installed the kernel headers? |
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| 13:39.38 | jethro | sciboy: you've been told. if you use aptitude, you have logs of packages you installed. otherwise, you can just guess |
| 13:39.43 | Virtual_ | damn, knew I forgot something |
| 13:39.47 | maltron | hehe |
| 13:40.00 | jethro | sciboy: check the debian BTS also |
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| 13:40.12 | maltron | Virtual_: make sure they're exactly the same version as your kernel |
| 13:40.34 | sciboy | Ok, for one, when i "startx" ("xfce4-session") i get the error "open: Permission Denied" in my .xsession-errors log |
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| 13:41.13 | maltron | Virtual_:if you're using the default install kernel (bf2.4 or whatever) you'll need to install a different kernel, then the matching headers |
| 13:41.24 | sciboy | mysql fails to connect to the socket required (localhost) |
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| 13:41.38 | Virtual_ | matron I have 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 13:41.40 | Virtual_ | is that ok ? |
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| 13:41.49 | sciboy | d4x thinks that it is already open. |
| 13:41.49 | maltron | i'd say yes |
| 13:42.17 | Virtual_ | ok, i`ll just take a few mins to install it |
| 13:42.17 | sciboy | xmms spits out "** CRITICAL **: setup_ctrlsocket(): Failed to assign /tmp/xmms_sciboy.0 to a socket (Error: Permission denied)" |
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| 13:42.50 | russell_ | hey all |
| 13:43.23 | sciboy | Now, i think "socket: permission denied" is the error coming out among all these applications, the question is, which port/file? |
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| 13:45.20 | jethro | !cluebat sciboy |
| 13:45.28 | jethro | wow nice one |
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| 13:46.54 | siggi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:47.15 | Virtual_ | maltron, done, now what? |
| 13:47.52 | maltron | Virtual_: ok, go to /lib/modules |
| 13:48.06 | maltron | there should be there a directory called fglrx |
| 13:48.08 | Sirlon | Hi...im just looking at the "man perl" pages but am not sure how to get to the other sections with console or xterm, i was wondrin if sumone could enlighten me plz :-D |
| 13:49.14 | jm_ | Sirlon: man perlrun ; man perlvar ; ... or use perldoc |
| 13:49.22 | jm_ | man page for perl mentiones them anyway |
| 13:49.53 | Sirlon | well im trying to get to the perlintro bit....how could i do that? |
| 13:50.15 | jethro | Sirlon: man perlintro |
| 13:50.20 | jm_ | man perlintro - apply some logic |
| 13:50.26 | Sirlon | lol k |
| 13:50.30 | jethro | !lol |
| 13:50.30 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a penguin. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
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| 13:50.43 | Sirlon | ah |
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| 13:51.06 | Sirlon | i doesnt recognise perlintro as being a man page though.... |
| 13:51.09 | CruX_ | hi |
| 13:51.10 | CruX_ | how can i tcpdump all traffic from app selected by pid - is it possible ? |
| 13:51.14 | Virtual_ | maltron, |
| 13:51.14 | libpcp | i would like to download debian sarge, what is the name of that iso in debian download site? |
| 13:51.15 | Virtual_ | - trying a sample load of the kernel module |
| 13:51.15 | Virtual_ | done. |
| 13:51.16 | Virtual_ | now what? |
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| 13:51.20 | liable | info perl? |
| 13:51.21 | jethro | Sirlon: install perldoc |
| 13:51.24 | jm_ | CruX_: no |
| 13:51.42 | Sirlon | ok....you mean apt-get install perldoc? |
| 13:51.49 | caphuso | perl-doc |
| 13:51.50 | jethro | Sirlon: apt-get insatll perl-doc |
| 13:51.55 | maltron | Virtual_: so you've obviously compiled it... now I guess I kinda fudge this next bit. |
| 13:51.56 | Sirlon | kool cheerz |
| 13:51.56 | jethro | s/sat/sta/ |
| 13:52.03 | paulswm | !tell libpcp about d-i |
| 13:52.10 | jethro | !aolify Sirlon |
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| 13:52.35 | Sirlon | u what? |
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| 13:52.37 | K_Dallas | jethro, how is warez business for Debian? anything new today? ;) |
| 13:52.38 | Sirlon | :-s |
| 13:52.47 | libpcp | thanks paulswm |
| 13:53.00 | maltron | Virtual_: I've never worked out how modules work in sarge, but if you have modconf installed you can run that and go to kernel drivers drm |
| 13:53.00 | jethro | K_Dallas: yes, today is the no warez day. everyone asking me for warez gets a /ignore |
| 13:53.01 | paulswm | !irritate K_Dallas |
| 13:53.02 | dpkg | K_Dallas: Y iz debain so old? who uses sound kk |
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| 13:53.17 | paulswm | libpcp: You're welcome :) |
| 13:53.17 | maltron | Virtual_: and install the fglrx module |
| 13:53.28 | K_Dallas | jethro, you started it, didnt you? |
| 13:53.39 | sciboy | Problem solved =) |
| 13:53.48 | sciboy | The permission error was from /tmp. |
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| 13:53.59 | takatumi | richih_: I suck. ;) |
| 13:54.01 | jethro | K_Dallas: yes, just leave me alone and that's fine |
| 13:54.06 | Virtual_ | never mind I think I got it, thank you maltron |
| 13:54.07 | maltron | Virtual_: you'll also need to install some agp ones too, I think - they're in kernel/drivers/char/agp |
| 13:54.16 | sdogi | anyone knows what to do when you were in middle of apt-get dist-upgrade and power went away, so you get some strange errors later on when updating stuff? |
| 13:54.33 | mrwill | when upgrading from woody to sarge, what do I do about my backports? |
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| 13:54.40 | petemc | sdogi: try apt-get -f install |
| 13:54.44 | jshriver | net |
| 13:54.45 | richih_ | takatumi, heh |
| 13:54.47 | richih_ | practice |
| 13:54.48 | jm_ | mrwill: good luck ;) |
| 13:54.56 | streuner_ | mrwill: forget those? |
| 13:55.11 | sdogi | petemc: ok |
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| 13:55.23 | Sirlon | exit |
| 13:55.26 | kantai | mrwill: shouldn't they be taken care of automagically? |
| 13:55.30 | mrwill | streuner_: seriously, found a page advocating simply commenting them out of sources.list, |
| 13:55.35 | Sirlon | oopsss....sory wrong window |
| 13:55.39 | mrwill | kantai: that's what I'm hoping. |
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| 13:56.02 | kantai | mrwill: look up apt-pinning I think its called |
| 13:56.27 | paulswm | Sirlon: Indeed, why on earth would you want to exit from us nice people? :P |
| 13:56.35 | sdogi | petemc: seems to work, thanks :) |
| 13:56.35 | liable | erm, when you upgrade, will you not need backports? |
| 13:56.39 | Sirlon | would i do that lol |
| 13:56.48 | js | i have two sound cards in my box, one onboard and another one in the pci slot.. i only want to use the pci one, so i disabled the onboard in the bios.. but linux finds it anyway.. how can i disable the onboard one? like add the module to some kind of blacklist or whatever.. when i run alsaconf i only choose the card i want to use, but the other one is always the one i get at boot anyway |
| 13:56.50 | mrwill | liable: yes, I shouldn't need them when I upgrade. |
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| 13:57.27 | mrwill | liable: because the packages are in sarge at the version I want, so I just figure I should be able to comment them out and forget about them. |
| 13:57.33 | liable | mrwill: well, uncomment and upgrade, and /msg dpkg woody > sarge |
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| 13:57.35 | Sirlon | Fantastic!!! Just downloaded the perl-docs and the perlintro works like a dream now :-D |
| 13:57.45 | Sirlon | Thanks a lot peeps |
| 13:57.57 | Sirlon | ill probz c ya l8er ;p) |
| 13:57.59 | mrwill | liable: uncomment? they already are uncommented. |
| 13:58.02 | Sirlon | ;-) |
| 13:58.07 | liable | ok |
| 13:58.13 | ArcSine | what do i run to apply the patch after downloading something with apt.get source? |
| 13:58.15 | liable | comment |
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| 13:58.35 | giupy | js, someone has told me that kernel doesn't see the bios after boot |
| 13:58.40 | PeTeRB | !tell Sirlon about 1337 |
| 13:58.43 | PeTeRB | Bah. |
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| 13:59.19 | giupy | js, i think you can recompile kernel without the card you don't want |
| 13:59.19 | js | giupy: somehow the other card works anyway, even though its disabled in the bios |
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| 13:59.28 | giupy | js, eh |
| 13:59.31 | sdogi | yeah have had such thing too |
| 13:59.36 | cla | Are there any native english speaking fellows here? I have a sentence I need proofed... |
| 13:59.44 | sdogi | i guess it is not really disabled, or maybe "Plug and play" is disabled |
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| 14:00.03 | cla | It should be kind of... academic. |
| 14:00.12 | cla | Here it comes: |
| 14:00.15 | cla | "User interfaces infer users retain information in working memory at a more frequent and extended degree than that of environments more natural to us." |
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| 14:00.44 | liable | js: blacklist it in hotplug, discover and module |
| 14:00.47 | maltron | cla: whoever wrote that ought to be shot |
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| 14:00.51 | liable | s |
| 14:00.54 | mrwill | cla: that makes sense, but it is very difficult to read. |
| 14:01.00 | cla | maltron, I wrote that =/ |
| 14:01.06 | maltron | cla: unless it's because they don't know english so well? |
| 14:01.18 | Phated | The phrasing is awkward. |
| 14:01.30 | mrwill | cla: the first part 'User interfaces infer users retain information' is the most confusing. |
| 14:01.35 | cla | It's the first sentence of the abstract of my master's thesis, so it should be somewhat academic. |
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| 14:01.44 | liable | !irritate jethro |
| 14:01.45 | dpkg | jethro: hi every1 how does I run teh grafixx windows lol |
| 14:01.48 | Phated | Academic != confusing. |
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| 14:01.53 | jethro | @annoy liable |
| 14:01.54 | ravenbird | liable: HELP!!!!! ANSWER!!!! PLZ!!!!! |
| 14:01.56 | cla | Any suggestions? |
| 14:02.00 | maltron | cla: sorry, that wasn't meant to be an insult, even though it was, but I really don't think that trying to make something sound academic is the right strategy |
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| 14:02.09 | mrwill | cla: I think maybe the tense of 'retain' is wrong -- I suggest 'retained' |
| 14:02.10 | maltron | cla: make it sound clear, not academic |
| 14:02.14 | cla | hehe, none taken maltron |
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| 14:02.28 | Phated | cla: "User interfaces allow users to retain more information at a better rate than in other environments." |
| 14:02.33 | Dondurma | does any one helpme to do a script that mirror my web site all day whith wget and cron |
| 14:02.43 | Phated | s/at a better rate/more effectively/ |
| 14:02.54 | cla | Basically, user interfaces force us to use working memory! |
| 14:03.17 | xtension | Dondurma is nt there an clickapp for that ? |
| 14:03.32 | Phated | Beh? I think I completely misunderstood your sentence, then. You definitely need a rewrite. |
| 14:03.39 | cla | lol |
| 14:03.39 | cla | ok |
| 14:03.52 | maltron | cla: my philosophy is: say what you mean, not what you think it should sound like |
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| 14:05.06 | xtension | Dondurma there s already tools that do that anyway |
| 14:05.11 | Bombo | when i have a /etc/ppp/ip-up.local are the programs in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ run too? |
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| 14:05.29 | maltron | cla: what's the topic? |
| 14:05.36 | Bombo | i have a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/foo but it seems not to be used when i connect |
| 14:05.40 | cla | Information Visualization |
| 14:05.40 | cla | effects on working memory and power of deduction |
| 14:05.48 | xtension | Dondurma dont know whether there's a 'click and guess your way through' app though |
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| 14:06.11 | Virtual | how can I find out what is the X server version? |
| 14:06.21 | Bombo | and the scripts called by /etc/ppp/ip-up.local don't get $4 and all the parameters, right? |
| 14:06.28 | streuner_ | Virtual: dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:07.06 | bcole | ok i froze up two of my terminals, how do i get em back lol |
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| 14:07.33 | giupy | can i put some iso on a boot-dvd and boot the iso i want ? |
| 14:07.40 | xtension | bcole eheh |
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| 14:07.55 | xtension | bcole ps tells you the pid no ? |
| 14:08.04 | bcole | yeah |
| 14:08.14 | xtension | bcole kill them |
| 14:08.27 | bcole | wont let me |
| 14:08.53 | bcole | kill -KILL <pid> does nothing |
| 14:08.59 | mrwill | aargh, what happened to dpkg? |
| 14:09.07 | justin | bcole: what does "froze up" and "wont let me" mean? |
| 14:09.07 | mrwill | bcole: try kill -9 |
| 14:09.10 | Virtual | what do you recomend, XFree86 or X.Org ? |
| 14:09.20 | mrwill | Virtual: whichever has drivers for your hardware. |
| 14:09.21 | xtension | mrwill dont be stupid |
| 14:09.30 | mrwill | xtension: scuse me? |
| 14:09.33 | xtension | mrwill dont be stupid |
| 14:09.43 | bcole | justin: froze up means isnt accepting input, and wont let me means kill -KILL <pid> does nothing |
| 14:09.55 | liable | !test |
| 14:10.00 | xtension | mrwill i cant think if you are being stupid |
| 14:10.04 | mrwill | xtension: what are you talking about? |
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| 14:10.08 | liable | who killed dpkg |
| 14:11.07 | bcole | nevermind i fixed it |
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| 14:11.31 | xtension | bcole care to explain what you did ? |
| 14:11.51 | cla | "User interfaces require us retaining information in working memory at a higher degree than blah blah"? |
| 14:12.11 | bcole | xtension: i mounted a nfs and went to explore the dir the server was unreachable so ls "froze", umount -f solved the problem |
| 14:12.25 | xtension | bcole ah |
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| 14:12.39 | bcole | if i had said that i probobly would have got a better respone to begin with, i just wasnt thinking |
| 14:12.47 | omry_ | speaking of which, is there a way to make nfs fail instead of block after a timeout? |
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| 14:13.14 | mrwill | omry_: yes, soft mount |
| 14:13.14 | justin | omry_: see the 'Mount options for nfs' in the mount man page |
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| 14:13.18 | sdogi | damn, apt-get -f install didn't help, i wonder how can i recover then.. |
| 14:13.23 | sdogi | apt-get -f install gives me this error: |
| 14:13.24 | sdogi | Setting up exim4-base (4.50-6) ... |
| 14:13.24 | sdogi | install: invalid group `adm' |
| 14:13.36 | sdogi | and then everything that depends on exim4 also fails |
| 14:13.39 | vezult | cla: how about '...require one to retain information...' |
| 14:13.39 | mrwill | omry_: note that it will still not transfer data right, but you won't be left with unkillable processes as a result. |
| 14:13.41 | omry_ | thanks. |
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| 14:13.51 | cla | vezult: thx, that's better |
| 14:14.00 | seldon | sdogi: Try dpkg --configure -a, maybe there's a half-configured package that makes the adm group |
| 14:14.03 | justin | sdogi: what did you do to your /etc/group ? |
| 14:14.20 | sdogi | i didn't do anything, power went away in the middle of upgrading |
| 14:14.26 | sdogi | seldon: i'll try |
| 14:14.27 | justin | sdogi: do you HAVE an /etc/group? |
| 14:14.30 | pcaddict | what file do i set the default gateway in? |
| 14:14.37 | Noid | how do i make an exact copy of the contents of my hdd to put them into another hdd? is tar czfv enough? |
| 14:14.39 | sdogi | of course i do |
| 14:14.48 | justin | sdogi: have you looked at it recently? |
| 14:14.51 | Noid | i mean a whole linux system |
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| 14:14.59 | omry_ | mrwill, what, you mean I can't get data from the nfs server if its down?! ;) |
| 14:15.02 | seldon | pcaddict: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:15.04 | seldon | see man interfaces |
| 14:15.05 | maltron | cla: i'm working on it... |
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| 14:15.14 | mr_blue | hi all |
| 14:15.16 | pcaddict | thanks |
| 14:15.20 | cla | maltron: =) |
| 14:15.24 | mrwill | omry_: unfortunately, no... sorry! :) |
| 14:15.50 | mr_blue | is there a way to convert a debian package database to a rpm d |
| 14:15.57 | mr_blue | rpm package database ? |
| 14:16.11 | vezult | Noid: tar -czfv wont work.. the -f option needs to come last. |
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| 14:17.43 | sdogi | seldon: same problem :( |
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| 14:18.09 | seldon | sdogi: Do you use sarge or sid? |
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| 14:18.33 | sdogi | sarge |
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| 14:20.15 | seldon | So exim4-base has trouble...wait a sec |
| 14:20.32 | tarzeau | mr_blue: COLUMNS=160 dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' |
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| 14:21.00 | maltron | cla: I only just began to understand what you were saying - it's hard when I don't know the context, but I think I understand now |
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| 14:21.18 | zefred | hello |
| 14:21.23 | zefred | who use Webmin? |
| 14:21.28 | PeTeRB | !webmin |
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| 14:21.36 | Helio | hello |
| 14:21.37 | PeTeRB | Bah |
| 14:21.40 | mr_blue | tarzeau, ok and then ? you gave me stuf to see what installed |
| 14:21.46 | cla | Here's the whole paragraph: |
| 14:21.46 | jethro | wenas who uses kde hello ?? |
| 14:21.47 | cla | User interfaces require us retaining information in working memory at a higher degree than that of environments more natural to us. Not due to anatomical limitations, but rather to flawed user interfaces and inapt methods of visualization failing to conform to our physical restraints. The cognitive strain suggested by this excessive consumption of working memory increases users’ levels of stress and fatigue |
| 14:21.55 | gahan | where's our lovely boy? |
| 14:21.57 | gahan | bot |
| 14:22.08 | gahan | :-( |
| 14:22.15 | jethro | @webmin |
| 14:22.15 | ravenbird | rumour has it, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webadmin. don't use it! |
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| 14:22.30 | tarzeau | mr_blue: rpm -i them |
| 14:22.36 | jethro | zefred: therey're almost all in #debian-owned |
| 14:22.37 | Helio | hello people gnu/linux |
| 14:22.43 | tarzeau | mr_blue: there'll be probably some that don't exist or are called different |
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| 14:22.50 | jethro | s/er// |
| 14:23.00 | tarzeau | Helio: there is also gnu/kfreebsd and gnu/hurd here |
| 14:23.04 | maltron | cla: that's mostly what I would have said, but change retaining to "to retain" |
| 14:23.08 | seldon | sdogi: I think groupadd -g 4 adm should work as a hotfix |
| 14:23.19 | cla | and that's it?? =P |
| 14:23.20 | mr_blue | tarzeau, i don't want to install them because there are allready installed on my debian box |
| 14:23.25 | maltron | cla: and then do this: |
| 14:23.51 | tarzeau | 16:15 < mr_blue> is there a way to convert a debian package database to a rpm d |
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| 14:23.56 | mr_blue | i just want to make a rpm database reflecting what is already installed with debian mechanism |
| 14:24.04 | tarzeau | mr_blue: can you tell what you really want to do? |
| 14:24.07 | maltron | cla: hang on, thinking |
| 14:24.09 | Noid | vezult: well, it works in any order |
| 14:24.13 | tarzeau | mr_blue: then do it! |
| 14:24.19 | cla | maltron: hangin in there... |
| 14:24.23 | maltron | cla: jeez, i better make this good! |
| 14:24.34 | cla | maltron: =D |
| 14:24.36 | mr_blue | tarzeau, yes but have no idea how to do that |
| 14:25.01 | mr_blue | tarzeau, may be too difficult to do |
| 14:25.10 | maltron | cla: the "than that of" doesn't fit - just "than in environments" |
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| 14:25.23 | maltron | cla: but i'm not done yet... |
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| 14:25.43 | tarzeau | mr_blue: just forget rpm |
| 14:26.20 | sdogi | seldon: worked :) i wonder though why was group file left in such state |
| 14:26.31 | seldon | Yeah, I wonder. |
| 14:26.38 | mr_blue | i need rpm for some special packages i have |
| 14:26.40 | seldon | I recommend you check your system for further inconsistencies. |
| 14:26.52 | tarzeau | mr_blue: i don't get what your problem is, i guess the weekend started |
| 14:27.05 | mr_blue | tarzeau, lol :) |
| 14:27.10 | tarzeau | mr_blue: non-free software or software that is not pakcagegd for debian? |
| 14:27.39 | kensuke | !lol |
| 14:27.40 | kensuke | :-) |
| 14:27.46 | sdogi | i have heard that rpm system has a way to check if the files installed have been modified and how, so it is easy to find out if something has been damaged, is it possible to do such thing with apt-get ? |
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| 14:28.00 | directhex|work | debsums? |
| 14:28.03 | directhex|work | !debsums |
| 14:28.05 | mr_blue | tarzeau, not packaged for debian |
| 14:28.19 | directhex|work | @debsums |
| 14:28.21 | sdogi | thanks, very cool |
| 14:28.24 | directhex|work | >_< |
| 14:28.33 | takatumi | richih_: ^5 |
| 14:28.47 | seldon | directhex|work: dpkg is gone. |
| 14:28.52 | richih_ | :) |
| 14:28.54 | tarzeau | mr_blue: what is it? |
| 14:28.57 | tarzeau | mr_blue: i can package it |
| 14:29.03 | tarzeau | mr_blue: or you can package it |
| 14:29.19 | mr_blue | tarzeau, on my debian, i can use the rpm db package to install some rpm i want but because there are the only one referenced on the db, the dependenies failed so i need the --nodeps option when installing |
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| 14:30.29 | mr_blue | my idea is to feed the rpm db with what it is already installed with deb pkg. The goal is to respect the deps constraints |
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| 14:30.54 | directhex|work | easy. use alien to convert from rpm to deb |
| 14:31.22 | mr_blue | tarzeau, by that way i can install what i want with rpm respect to the dependencies |
| 14:32.13 | tarzeau | mr_blue: forget it. |
| 14:32.19 | tarzeau | mr_blue: just get rid of rpm |
| 14:32.25 | tarzeau | mr_blue: your idea is bullshit |
| 14:32.29 | tarzeau | and your idea sucks |
| 14:34.03 | mr_blue | tarzeau, i am not enougth clear may be |
| 14:34.50 | tarzeau | mr_blue: no i understand you perfectly |
| 14:34.58 | tarzeau | stop it. your idea blows |
| 14:35.21 | mr_blue | tarzeau, i cannot get ride of my rpm's that's why |
| 14:35.28 | tarzeau | make debs then! |
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| 14:35.40 | tarzeau | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 14:35.58 | tarzeau | mr_blue: why don't you tell us what software it is, where from in rpm that you can't ride? |
| 14:36.07 | tarzeau | maybe you need a blessed +3 saddle? |
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| 14:36.25 | caphuso | $ ls 1>&- |
| 14:37.11 | wigwam | Hi! I try to create command-line params via shell-script like >>PARAMS="${PARAMS} -Q \" Blah blah\""<<. Now when I call the Program ("curl"), bash of course does no parameter-parsing, so curl doesn't get quoted strings as one Parameter. How can I do this? |
| 14:37.39 | mr_blue | tarzeau, with the increasing using of linux and the plethor of distribution, we see now compatibility problems between distribution. rpm is an example. alien is good but it eat all the dependency restriction |
| 14:37.43 | jethro | wigwam: /j #bash |
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| 14:38.07 | wigwam | ok... |
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| 14:38.58 | sadrak|work | are there any known bugs with AIC79XX and Kernel 2.6.11? |
| 14:39.08 | sadrak|work | have kernel panic :/ |
| 14:39.20 | sadrak|work | have a dell poweredge 1425SC |
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| 14:39.28 | pro | anyone know how to work an eggdrop bot? i got it to connect to irc, now i just need to figureout how to make him go into a # |
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| 14:39.59 | sep | pro: and you ask #debian becouse ? |
| 14:40.14 | sadrak|work | the kernel from SID works with patches but not the one from kernel.org |
| 14:40.16 | tarzeau | mr_blue: no. all what is not debian sucks |
| 14:40.20 | pro | sadrak|work: i also got on, but i use the 2.6.0 and no problems, except the clock is always wrong |
| 14:40.26 | tarzeau | mr_blue: alien is bullshit. so is rpm |
| 14:40.35 | tarzeau | mr_blue: and you are a troll |
| 14:40.52 | pro | sep: 2 reasons, 1) no one in #eggdrop, and 2) debian guys are clever/well informed |
| 14:40.56 | sadrak|work | @pro: what source? .deb oder selfmade? |
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| 14:41.05 | sep | pro: http://www.eggheads.org/support/ for the docs. but you can try the command .+chan .help +chan for how |
| 14:41.41 | jethro | pro: /msg dpkg they don't know |
| 14:41.49 | sep | pro: after +chan you usualy want to check out .chaninfo and .chanset |
| 14:41.55 | pro | sadrak|work: got the tgz off my local ISP's ftp and built it by hand, no initrd either |
| 14:42.04 | sadrak|work | hmmm |
| 14:42.16 | sadrak|work | 2.6.0? |
| 14:42.27 | pro | yip |
| 14:42.34 | pro | stock standard one |
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| 14:43.14 | mr_blue | tarzeau, you seems to be a debian 'integrist' |
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| 14:43.55 | xtension | tarzeau hi :) |
| 14:44.10 | tarzeau | hi xtension |
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| 14:44.32 | xtension | tarzeau did you update your most funny #debina quotes ?? |
| 14:44.32 | tarzeau | mr_blue: dict and i don't know what an integrist is. can you talk english to me? |
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| 14:44.44 | tarzeau | xtension: they're not mine, i just have a link to them |
| 14:44.48 | Spec | rawr |
| 14:44.53 | pro | jethro: thanks |
| 14:46.04 | Spec | www.dilbert.com |
| 14:46.05 | pro | jethro: so according to that, i can only ask a question here about apt, dpkg, or anything that is only on debian and no other dist? |
| 14:46.14 | Spec | so very good today |
| 14:46.27 | pro | jethro: for example i should not ask about exim, or apache or anything in here? |
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| 14:47.29 | PeTeRB | pro: If the questions are Debian-related, you can ask. |
| 14:47.32 | maltron | cla: i'm very nearly there... |
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| 14:47.53 | cla | maltron: lol, go my man!! |
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| 14:48.24 | pro | well, its related, i got it out a .deb and its running on a debian box. |
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| 14:48.49 | bcole | stop asking if you can ask and ask :) |
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| 14:49.06 | jasoncohen | can i install a downloaded debian package with apt or do i have to use dpkg? |
| 14:49.12 | maltron | cla: okay, two versions |
| 14:49.22 | cgbirzan | Hey. Anyone know why I am getting this error: http://wolfheart.ro/~gcbirzan/make-kpkg.log, even though I have 8.132 (That's the only reference I found on Google to that error message), the version it was supposed to be fixed in? |
| 14:49.25 | bcole | jasoncohen: dpkg -i |
| 14:49.44 | jasoncohen | bcole, i would rather use apt to get the dependencies which debian has. can i use apt? |
| 14:49.47 | akumautahu | yryyeye |
| 14:50.09 | wekz | hi |
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| 14:50.15 | PeTeRB | jasoncohen: It will stop the install if it needs some more dependencies |
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| 14:50.27 | caphuso | debian apache isn't started on a terminal |
| 14:50.33 | omry_ | what is the meaning of sarge being released soon? does it mean my sarge box will become stable, or will it continue to be testing? |
| 14:50.35 | caphuso | grrrr |
| 14:50.36 | maltron | cla: the first is basically yours reworded, fixing grammar (as much as I know how), removing tautologies and words that don't make sense in the context. |
| 14:50.44 | directhex|work | omry_, depends how you have it configured |
| 14:50.47 | maltron | cla: User interfaces require us to retain information in working memory at a higher |
| 14:50.47 | maltron | degree than in environments more natural to us. This is not due to our physiological limitations, but rather to flawed user interfaces and inapt |
| 14:50.47 | maltron | methods of visualization. The cognitive strain of this excessive use of working memory increases the user's levels of stress and fatigue |
| 14:50.51 | maltron | oh crap |
| 14:51.03 | maltron | I didn't mean to do _that_! |
| 14:51.13 | directhex|work | omry_, edit /etc/apt/sources.list - if it says "testing", when sarge releases you move to etch. if it says "sarge", you stay on sarge-stable |
| 14:51.14 | maltron | well, it's there anyway |
| 14:51.52 | maltron | I took the liberty of rewriting it, however, and mine's much shorter and to the point: |
| 14:51.55 | omry_ | directhex|work, I got testing. so I can expect a major upgrade soon? |
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| 14:52.04 | maltron | cla; Often as a result of poor design, user interfaces require us to retain more |
| 14:52.04 | maltron | information in working memory than we are usually accustomed, requiring more cog |
| 14:52.04 | maltron | nitive effort and resulting in higher levels of stress and fatigue. |
| 14:52.12 | directhex|work | omry_, if you want it |
| 14:52.19 | wekz | siap ya |
| 14:52.19 | cla | damn maltron you're good =) |
| 14:52.19 | maltron | oh, bugger, there it goes again |
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| 14:52.44 | maltron | cla: now you know why it took me 7 years to finish a 5 year degree! |
| 14:52.52 | omry_ | directhex|work, if unstable is stable enough for testing, sure I want it. |
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| 14:53.15 | cla | lol |
| 14:53.20 | gass | while sarge is not out ... here is a comic entry |
| 14:53.21 | gass | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/06/msg00203.html |
| 14:53.30 | cla | Do you do commerical writing as well? |
| 14:53.41 | jethro | ah shit. he left before I could tell him |
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| 14:54.09 | maltron | cla: hope that helps |
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| 14:54.25 | cla | maltron: It sure does. Do you do commercial copy writing as well? |
| 14:54.35 | maltron | cla: hehe, you flatter me |
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| 14:56.00 | maltron | cle: here's a little hint for you: find an author in English that you find clear and easy to understand, and read as much of that as possible |
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| 14:56.11 | maltron | cla: |
| 14:56.15 | jethro | how can one name his box stallman... |
| 14:56.16 | gromf | Hello everybody ! |
| 14:56.20 | jethro | hi gromf |
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| 14:56.27 | bcole | Eg |
| 14:56.35 | bcole | typo sorry |
| 14:56.38 | Ichal | hi |
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| 14:57.04 | gromf | jethro: why do you say that ? |
| 14:57.10 | maltron | cla: and you'll eventually come to realise that most academics - native english speakers often the worst - don't know how to write |
| 14:57.11 | cla | maltron: Any suggestions? Authors/books...? =P |
| 14:57.29 | gromf | Mage\work: can you help me again please ? |
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| 14:57.35 | jethro | gromf: because it sucks imho. |
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| 14:57.42 | Aronofsky | hi |
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| 14:57.50 | maltron | well, for starters, go to www.robertfisk.com and read the article of 14 May 2005 |
| 14:57.53 | omry_ | directhex|work, supposed I remain on testing and than I change my mind, should chaging testing to sarge in the sources work to "downgrade" back to sarge? |
| 14:57.55 | gromf | jethro: what do you suggest me to rename my box ? |
| 14:57.57 | maltron | cla: |
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| 14:58.08 | cla | maltron: gotcha |
| 14:58.15 | directhex|work | omry_, no, debian has no downgrade facility |
| 14:58.19 | maltron | cla: then it sorta depends on your taste |
| 14:58.20 | jethro | gromf: no. I m just wondering how one could give such stupid names to a computer running debian or not |
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| 14:58.32 | directhex|work | omry_, and by the time you change your mind, your config files will all be set up for xorg, gnome 2.10, etc etc etc |
| 14:58.34 | maltron | Roald Dahl is excellent, although most of his stuff is written for children |
| 14:59.09 | maltron | cla: but that's often a good source |
| 14:59.20 | maltron | if a child can read it, then anyone can |
| 14:59.21 | gromf | !tell jethro why is it a stupid name ? |
| 14:59.37 | maltron | cla:but personally, I'm currently amazed by Voltaire |
| 14:59.42 | jethro | gromf: nevermind, and ask your question, if any. |
| 14:59.45 | maltron | cla: unfortunately it's in French |
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| 14:59.56 | maltron | cla: but the same principle applies |
| 14:59.57 | omry_ | directhex|work, I see. sounds like a major change. (especialy the x server). |
| 15:00.05 | cla | maltron: lol, yes unfortuntely. Do you read french? |
| 15:00.15 | maltron | cla: incredibly consise, clear, and elegant - and very witty too |
| 15:00.22 | tarzeau | !ls |
| 15:00.22 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
| 15:00.28 | gromf | ok, I have compiled my own kernel to have sata work, but I get a kernel panic... |
| 15:00.34 | maltron | cla: a bit, but not too much - I'm working on it! |
| 15:00.34 | jethro | maltron: cla, would you mind taking this elsewhere? |
| 15:00.39 | maltron | yeah, sorry |
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| 15:00.43 | maltron | got a bit carried away |
| 15:00.48 | jethro | just a bit :) |
| 15:00.49 | cla | jethro: sorry |
| 15:01.02 | maltron | jethro: yeah, me too |
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| 15:01.17 | omry_ | gromf, you try to boot from the SATA drive? |
| 15:01.19 | Aronofsky | maltron, im french and i love voltaire too ( i can read french , lol ) |
| 15:01.25 | gromf | omry_ : yes |
| 15:01.28 | directhex|work | gromf, why do you need to compile your own kernel for SATA? |
| 15:01.32 | hcy | how can i burn a 2.2G avi file to a dvd? I think iso's don't allow files that big |
| 15:01.38 | gromf | omry_ : (I have only this one) |
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| 15:01.57 | maltron | aronofsky: you're french AND you can read french? Amazing... |
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| 15:01.59 | jethro | gromf: /msg dpkg debian kernel image |
| 15:02.01 | directhex|work | hcy, you can't put files over 2gb on regular ISO9660. the microsoft Joliet extensions allow it, as does the UDF filesystem |
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| 15:02.27 | gromf | directhex|work : because if I run a base kernel, I have a poor transfer rate |
| 15:02.33 | directhex|work | hcy, unfortunately, mkisofs does not support that part of joliet, so the only option is udf, which is rather complex |
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| 15:02.39 | Musgglo | does anyone knows how to put on event (program) in background ? |
| 15:02.45 | hcy | directhex|work: complex? darn |
| 15:02.48 | maltron | ctrl-z |
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| 15:03.00 | Aronofsky | maltron, i know, im quite an amazing person , actually in france we all are ... |
| 15:03.01 | gromf | jethro: very funny ;o) |
| 15:03.12 | omry_ | gromf, I had similar problems, only the kernel I installed at the setup works properly. other kernels (that I compiled myself, or that I tried to install using apt-get) gave me kernel panic. |
| 15:03.14 | Aronofsky | maltron, just kiddin by the way |
| 15:03.22 | maltron | Aronofsky: actually i reckon French people are gay |
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| 15:03.37 | maltron | Aronofsky: oh, you were just kidding... |
| 15:03.39 | jethro | gromf: what is funny is people trying to build their kernel, not succeeding, and then complaining in #debian. when you tell them about kernel images they laugh at you |
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| 15:03.54 | hcy | directhex|work: can't just do a mkudffs the same way i do mkisofs ? |
| 15:03.59 | cla | maltron: I really appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch. Should you do copy writing, I'd be interested in hiring you for small "joblings" now and then. How do I get in touch with you, should that be the case? |
| 15:04.01 | gromf | omry_: Mage\work told me to compile my own kernel, so I tried... |
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| 15:04.13 | cla | maltron: oh, you'd get payed of course... =) |
| 15:04.21 | Aronofsky | maltron, yeah some of us are gay effectively |
| 15:04.33 | directhex|work | hcy, no. i can't remember the exact procedure, but you need to create an empty file, map it to a device node, mount it, run mkudffs on it, pump files onto the mounted device node, |
| 15:04.37 | gromf | jethro: I won't do it again :-( |
| 15:04.49 | directhex|work | gromf, how exactly did you make your own kernel? |
| 15:04.57 | hcy | directhex|work: darn, you're right, too complicated. |
| 15:05.10 | Musgglo | does anyone knows how to put on event (program) to run in background ? |
| 15:05.12 | Aronofsky | maltron, where are you from |
| 15:05.15 | chrisvv | has somebody install usermodelinux on sarge ? |
| 15:05.24 | maltron | Australia, where else? |
| 15:05.28 | Aronofsky | chrisvv, i do |
| 15:05.36 | gromf | directhex|work: make menuconfig, select options, make-kpgk kernel_image and install the fresh *.deb |
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| 15:06.05 | directhex|work | gromf, and the --initrd you probably needed? |
| 15:06.15 | chrisvv | Aronofsky, so do i need an special kernel gor the real machine or just run umlkernels as i donwload them ? |
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| 15:06.46 | Musgglo | hello |
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| 15:07.27 | gromf | directhex|work: oops |
| 15:07.39 | Aronofsky | chrisvv, yes you can run donwloaded kernel as you downloaded them without changin anything on your real machine |
| 15:07.42 | Aronofsky | got a question, i just install mon ( monitoring tool )and i didn't got any log from it, can anyone help me with taht ? |
| 15:07.42 | k0r3 | !anaconda |
| 15:07.42 | dpkg | [anaconda] redhat's new installations system, it's GPLed and may come to other distros hopefully it has gtk+ and text based interface, or being ported to Debian by progeny |
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| 15:08.09 | chrisvv | Aronofsky, and how do u install new distros on them ? |
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| 15:08.32 | eye69 | Anybody running pam-ldap/nss-ldap? It was years since I did this, and now it works for root, but not for users. |
| 15:09.51 | Aronofsky | chrisvv, got to download them from uml site or create it yourself |
| 15:10.51 | chrisvv | Aronofsky, ah.... so there are prebuilds ....lets say debian-umlized ? |
| 15:11.23 | k0r3 | !core |
| 15:11.23 | dpkg | hmm... core is cool :), or joo daddy, or the pimp, or psycho |
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| 15:11.56 | directhex|work | !factinfo core |
| 15:11.56 | dpkg | core -- created by c0rez <core@193-152-224-7.uc.nombres.ttd.es> at Mon Dec 25 07:21:15 2000 (1621 days); last modified at Tue Apr 3 02:18:56 2001 by core!core@143.pm4.ezlink.com; it has been requested 21 times, last by k0r3, 33s ago. |
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| 15:14.25 | tam | is there a way in debian to show the last dist-upgrade you did? |
| 15:14.35 | drac | tam: no |
| 15:14.39 | tam | crap |
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| 15:15.01 | tam | postfix is borked and i want to know if debian could have borked it |
| 15:15.27 | directhex|work | tam, yes, if you use aptitude not apt-get |
| 15:15.34 | MikeCamel | tam: I use aptitude. One of the advantages is that if you look at /var/log/aptitude, you get some useful info. |
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| 15:15.46 | tam | :( |
| 15:15.48 | tam | uh ohh |
| 15:15.59 | tam | ahh, wait. i use cron-apt that tells me |
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| 15:18.51 | m4lu7 | Anybody have a line on a howto or docs for software raid (perhaps "The Debian Way"), for Kernel 2.6.x? |
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| 15:19.30 | Aronofsky | chrisvv, yes there are, on uml website |
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| 15:19.41 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 15:19.47 | sadrak|work | anyone have a DeLL Poweredge 1425 with SCSI and a Kernel ~ 2.6.11 ? |
| 15:20.05 | amorphix | how do i eject my cd, i tried to from konqueror but it wont let me, says eject failed |
| 15:20.06 | dave6 | Do you know a program that downloads all your mail via pop3 and forwards it to a given email address? |
| 15:20.39 | sadrak|work | i just see kernel-panic with that kind of kernel :/ |
| 15:20.41 | LordFrith | So, I have screwed up my packages. Now I want to install "libapache2-mod-php4", and when I do "apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4", it tells me I have it. If I do "dpkg -L libapache2-mod-php4", it lists files that are not actuially present. So I have removed and reinstalled the package, and they are still not there. I know I am doing something wrong, so is there a nice way to rebuild the database or something? |
| 15:21.17 | gass | LordFrith: dpkg -l | grep ii |
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| 15:21.48 | ercin | i have installed kde 3.4 from experimental and my gnome menu is now empty |
| 15:22.01 | ercin | how can i fix my menu? |
| 15:22.08 | chrisvv | Aronofsky, having unchanged sarge (kernel 2.6.8) as a host and downloading sarge-umlized .... is usuable for making dmz ? |
| 15:22.16 | LordFrith | gass: ii libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 15:22.40 | gass | LordFrith: humm? |
| 15:22.52 | amorphix | hi |
| 15:22.57 | Aronofsky | chrisvv, i guess so |
| 15:23.06 | amorphix | how do i eject my cd, i tried to from konqueror but it wont let me, says eject failed |
| 15:23.27 | hcy_ | pry it open with a screwdriver |
| 15:23.32 | LordFrith | dpkg -L libapache2-mod-php4 | while read fn; do [ ! -e $fn ] && echo $fn not present; done |
| 15:23.32 | LordFrith | /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load not present |
| 15:23.32 | LordFrith | /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf not present |
| 15:23.33 | dpkg | ii libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 15:23.39 | amorphix | dont think thats a good idea |
| 15:23.45 | gromf | directhex|work: okay now it boots but my sata drive doesn't run faster... |
| 15:23.49 | omry_ | amorphix, you need to unmount first. |
| 15:23.49 | hcy_ | ok, try a knife then |
| 15:24.08 | amorphix | omry_: it is unmounted |
| 15:24.18 | bcole | is there a good debian alsa howto? |
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| 15:24.33 | gass | LordFrith: do simply ... dpkg -l | grep ii | grep mod-php4 |
| 15:24.40 | omry_ | amorphix, what is the cd device name? |
| 15:25.09 | amorphix | its /dev/hdb |
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| 15:25.27 | omry_ | amorphix, try : lsof | grep hdb |
| 15:25.33 | amorphix | thanks |
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| 15:25.49 | omry_ | amorphix, it will not eject. it will tell you if its used somehow. |
| 15:25.55 | LordFrith | dpkg -l | grep ii | grep mod-php4 || echo No result |
| 15:25.55 | LordFrith | No result |
| 15:25.56 | dpkg | grep mod-php4 |
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| 15:26.11 | ThePiratemaster | If i had the following services to host wich i had to devide over 2 servers, how would you do that and why: services: irc, imap, http, ftp, smb, nfs, serveral gameservers and DNS. server1: pIII 550 Mhz, 512MB and 120GB + 6.8GB hard drive. server2: dual pIII 733Mhz (x2), 1024Mb, 9.1 gb SCSI and 20 GB IDE hard drive. |
| 15:26.38 | ThePiratemaster | im new to servers andi 'd like to know how a more experienced person would do it |
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| 15:27.14 | gass | ThePiratemaster: smb nfs on biggest disk server (low resources) |
| 15:27.20 | LordFrith | Now that's fairly odd. |
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| 15:27.29 | amorphix | omry_ thanks, that sorted it! very useful tip |
| 15:27.32 | sparr_ | I am trying to use a HPT374A (or N) RAID controller built into my motherboard. Right now I am not trying to do any RAID with it, just use it as a normal IDE controller. On boot my hde is detected, but then the driver produces a kernel Oops. Help? http://rafb.net/paste/results/1VCv5z46.html |
| 15:27.40 | omry_ | amorphix, np. |
| 15:27.40 | obtix | when i do not have X loaded and in my terminal the moniter will shutoff (which i want); however, when i load X and set my xscreensaver settings to turn off the monitor it doesn't work - any ideas? |
| 15:27.41 | gass | LordFrith: humm ... did you do that? |
| 15:27.51 | BoD_SWAT | is Debian throttling the bandwith by default? When I download something from my old 450Mhz, I only get max. 1.5MB/s (should be at least 5MB/s) |
| 15:28.27 | lewis | i am trying to do rsync backups via SSH, and am trying to rid the need for a password. i have followed the official site's guide, and am having problems - can someone help? |
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| 15:28.27 | PeTeRB | BoD_SWAT: Disk speed? |
| 15:28.27 | omry_ | amorphix, so it was mounted after all? :) |
| 15:28.33 | nvz | ThePiratemaster: the gameserver should go on the faster one, the http and ftp go together as well as the smb and nfs probably on the machine with more HD space.. and throw in imap too since it will need space... however I dont know that you want anything critical like dns or anything going on the same box with gameservers |
| 15:28.54 | BoD_SWAT | PeTeRB, 7200RPM, 8MB cache, about 80GB |
| 15:28.59 | directhex|work | sparr_, kernel version? |
| 15:29.08 | LordFrith | gass: Yes. And here's the issue: 1) If I do dpkg -l | grep ii | grep mod-php4, I get nothing. If I do "dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php4" I get a line stating "ii ..." |
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| 15:29.15 | BoD_SWAT | PeTeRB, and the comp has nothing else to do and about 512MB of SDRAM |
| 15:29.28 | gass | LordFrith: LOL ... |
| 15:29.47 | gass | LordFrith: then it's there ... but its kind of odd |
| 15:29.54 | LordFrith | 2) If I do "apt-get remove lib...", it tells me it's already removed. If I do apt-get install, it tells me it installed it. If I then remove it again, it tells me it's already removed. |
| 15:29.57 | nvz | BoD_SWAT: are you sure you can get 1.5mbs downloads?? maybe thats your available bandwidth? |
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| 15:30.10 | nvz | er s/1.5/5/ |
| 15:30.17 | BoD_SWAT | nvz, I'm on the same LAN (100 Mbit/s :-| ) |
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| 15:30.41 | ThePiratemaster | tnx |
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| 15:30.50 | gass | LordFrith: humm ... server? sarge? |
| 15:31.01 | nvz | BoD_SWAT: ah, well I normally only got about 1.5 on my 100mb lan, becausae of various other 10mb switches and stuff in the way |
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| 15:31.08 | ThePiratemaster | could i use sarge for a server or is woody stil more recommandable |
| 15:31.14 | richih_ | sarge |
| 15:31.15 | nvz | BoD_SWAT: and again that is the bandwidth, not the transfer rate |
| 15:31.22 | richih_ | TheLaw: definately sarge |
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| 15:31.31 | PeTeRB | LordFrith: Try apt-get --reinstall install ... |
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| 15:32.17 | LordFrith | PeTeRB: Same problem. |
| 15:32.18 | zOap | where is the xfree86 config file and what is it called? |
| 15:32.37 | ThePiratemaster | tnx |
| 15:32.44 | BoD_SWAT | nvz, sorry, offcourse I meant the transfer rate. Got full-duplex all the way, so shouldn't the rate be more like 8MB/s ? |
| 15:32.50 | nvz | zOap: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:32.53 | PeTeRB | LordFrith: Did you install it recently or it worked before? |
| 15:33.12 | nvz | zOap: if you alter it manually it will not update the dpkg checksum on the file |
| 15:33.13 | zOap | nvz, that's not the actual config file |
| 15:33.24 | zOap | nvz, i know |
| 15:33.25 | sparr_ | directhex|work: 2.6.10 |
| 15:33.27 | LordFrith | It was working before, but then I started getting stupid with trying to uninstall things to get it back to the original state. |
| 15:33.33 | zOap | nvz, i still wanna alter it |
| 15:33.35 | nvz | zOap: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 probably |
| 15:33.38 | directhex|work | sparr_, try 2.6.11? |
| 15:33.42 | omry_ | zOap, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 before messing with it, read the comment at the top. |
| 15:33.43 | zOap | nvz, thanks:) |
| 15:33.49 | nvz | zOap: update the cecksum then :P |
| 15:34.05 | sparr_ | directhex|work: kernel-image-2.6.10-1-k7 to be precise |
| 15:34.10 | nvz | there is a factoid about that, but I dont recall which one |
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| 15:34.36 | Pappa | BoD_SWAT: ethtool -s ethLAN speed 100 duplex full autoneg on |
| 15:34.45 | TGM | Finally only, 12 Rc bugs affecting release, and at least one is marked Pending. and Here is a question: When sarge is finally released how long will it take for the refereces on the web pages to indicate that stable is sarge. and what about those packages that sarge will be distibuting that currently say woody is stable? i assume they will be caught in the first point release? |
| 15:34.46 | Pappa | see if anything changes |
| 15:34.51 | LordFrith | So here's the story-- apt-get install phpbb2 ... modify it ... stopped working ... mucked with it .... didn't work ... decide to remove it and start again .... removed every package that was installed on it .... purged them all ... reinstalled apache2 ... reinstall phpbb2 ... noticed that pho module wasn't working. |
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| 15:35.14 | LordFrith | So, somewhere in that process I inevitably deleted/removed something that I should not have. |
| 15:35.22 | nvz | Its hardly news, but I am moving _again_ :P |
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| 15:35.30 | sparr_ | directhex|work: maybe. if i find no other option. or if i actually find information saying its been fixed. |
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| 15:35.45 | gass | LordFrith: check libc |
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| 15:35.57 | LordFrith | Ah, good point. |
| 15:36.03 | nvz | I am getting myself a house this time.. the way I move around, it really should have wheels |
| 15:36.43 | lewis | can someone help me get ssh keys working, so i can ssh into one machine without a password? (for using with rsync) |
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| 15:37.18 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, "Cannot get current device settings: Operation not supported" |
| 15:37.23 | petemc | lewis: theres not a lot to it, and theres thousands of guides on the web |
| 15:37.28 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, guess I have to ifdown ? |
| 15:37.41 | gromf | "ata: 0x170 IDE port busy" |
| 15:37.56 | gromf | someone knows that ? |
| 15:37.58 | nvz | lewis: its pretty simple for ssh2, just run ssh-keygen -t [rsa,dsa] on the client, and copy its public keys into the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the host |
| 15:38.07 | lewis | i have done that. |
| 15:38.23 | mrwill | hi, after upgrade to sarge, mysqld won't start -- docs in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server suggest resetting password for debian-sys-maint user. should I do this? |
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| 15:38.36 | Pappa | BoD_SWAT: you have to be root |
| 15:38.46 | lewis | i have edited authorized_keys to have 'from="123.123.456.789"' at the beginning |
| 15:39.02 | LordFrith | gass: Anything spec ific I should be looking for about liubc? (libc6 is the one that is running) |
| 15:39.03 | nvz | lewis: turn off "UsePAM yes" if you do not want password logins at all |
| 15:39.06 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, I am :D |
| 15:39.11 | Pappa | =/ |
| 15:39.19 | Pappa | well try it on both boxes |
| 15:39.23 | nvz | lewis: and I never needed to edit my authorized_keys to put any lines like that in there |
| 15:39.25 | lewis | i do want password logins, just not for this one account, and from one machine |
| 15:39.36 | nvz | lewis: you just put the public keys in |
| 15:39.36 | Pappa | and replace ethLAN with wth1 , eth0 or whatever |
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| 15:40.02 | lewis | nvz: oh ok - the guide suggested putting it in, to restrict only one ip address to access... (in case anyone got the private key I suppose) |
| 15:40.16 | bernouli | i want to install debian, but i don't know which file i need to download? |
| 15:40.22 | nvz | lewis: its news to me |
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| 15:40.34 | PeTeRB | !d-i bernouli |
| 15:40.34 | dpkg | bernouli, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 15:42.23 | lewis | nvz: ok - all I have is the .pub file put into /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys, and the private being mentioned with 'ssh -i private_file hostname' - and I am still asked for a password. |
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| 15:43.05 | bernouli | there are binary-1 till binary-14, which one should i download? |
| 15:43.30 | nvz | bernouli: does the pc you are installing on have a direct connection to the internet? i.e. broadband ethernet? |
| 15:43.36 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, how can I check the current 'speed' of my network card? (100 or 10 Mbit/s) ? |
| 15:43.43 | bernouli | yes |
| 15:43.54 | nvz | bernouli: then dont use any of them, get a netinstall |
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| 15:44.17 | nvz | bernouli: then you will fetch recent packages and not d/l anything you dont need |
| 15:44.25 | sadrak|work | that is too hard :/ new kernel wont work ... |
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| 15:44.33 | sadrak|work | anybody know the error: Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,2) |
| 15:44.51 | sadrak|work | SCSI-controller with aic79xx |
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| 15:45.04 | Jacobo221 | anyone knows of a command to communicate with socket files from the shell? |
| 15:45.06 | sadrak|work | he found and check the sda |
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| 15:45.21 | brader | I need help getting a syntax highlighting aded to bluefish when I try nothign happens |
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| 15:45.53 | Pappa | BoD_SWAT: sudo ethtool eth0 |
| 15:45.59 | xtension | sadrak|work check /etc/fstab |
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| 15:46.22 | Pappa | but don't rely on it.. i had to do the above to boost mine from 333Kb/s to 6-7 megabytes / sec |
| 15:46.31 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me where I can find the apt-source list? |
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| 15:46.42 | xtension | [Elvis] /etc/apt/ |
| 15:46.47 | brader | [Elvis], /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:46.47 | alexmacy | hi |
| 15:46.47 | sadrak|work | its lock fine :) /dev/sda2 / ext2 errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 15:47.01 | [Elvis] | thank you |
| 15:47.05 | Pappa | BoD_SWAT: perhaps your switch is a bit rusty too. cheap switches don't like too mych data at once. |
| 15:47.06 | nvz | [Elvis]: /etc/apt/sources.list, or run apt-setup, or if you use something like Synaptic, goto "Repositories" in the menu |
| 15:47.29 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, "Cannot get device settings: Operation not supported".... I am root, but it could be because I'm currently using the same eth device? |
| 15:47.30 | lewis | bah - I still can't get SSH keys working - it still prompts me for a password, should I perhaps have authorized_keys2 file instead? |
| 15:47.38 | xtension | sadrak|work lilo.conf ? |
| 15:47.42 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, my switch never complained before, and it has been tested :-) |
| 15:48.08 | brader | heh Lewis I was having the same problem but I had to move on to workign on something else |
| 15:48.13 | Bombo | why is it that after the line "exec /etc/ppp/ip-up.local" in /etc/ppp/ip-up the script exits? ip-up.local is executed, and every script that is in it, but after that it doesnt return to start "run-parts /etc/ppp/ip-up.d ..." (debian sarge) |
| 15:48.18 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, I think I have a guess...... |
| 15:48.26 | lewis | brader: heh - thanks anyhow |
| 15:48.32 | caphuso | BoD_SWAT: because that's what exec does |
| 15:48.34 | Pappa | BoD_SWAT: i can do whatever i want with mine during activity. |
| 15:48.36 | caphuso | damn |
| 15:48.40 | kullanici | what should i install for mysql support to php ? |
| 15:48.41 | caphuso | Bombo: because that's what exec does |
| 15:48.44 | sadrak|work | lilo is ok |
| 15:48.51 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, I guess it COULD be a 10Mbit/s card instead of a 100Mbit/s card. But how can I check that? |
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| 15:49.13 | sadrak|work | i dont know the kind of error ... is that the controller? or where must i search? |
| 15:49.17 | Bombo | caphuso: hmm |
| 15:49.23 | Pappa | BoD_SWAT: ethtool ethX is all i know.. =/ |
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| 15:49.43 | kullanici | hey |
| 15:49.53 | Bombo | caphuso is that a wanted feature? that after ip-up.local no other scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ are called? |
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| 15:50.05 | anhi | BoD_SWAT: mii-tool might help |
| 15:50.18 | snowy` | hi |
| 15:50.19 | xtension | sadrak|work is there a fs on /dev/hda2 ? |
| 15:50.29 | sadrak|work | hda? no, i dont have a hda |
| 15:50.35 | sadrak|work | sda2 is the root |
| 15:50.37 | sadrak|work | ext2 |
| 15:50.42 | BoD_SWAT | Pappa, what does your "txqueuelen" say @ ifconfig? |
| 15:50.42 | sadrak|work | works with kernel 2.4.29 |
| 15:50.50 | xtension | sadrak|work is there a fs on /dev/hd-whatever-your-root-fs-is ? |
| 15:50.51 | snowy` | i want to install debian on my laptop using the internet option. I was just wondering if I will be able to use my wifi to do so |
| 15:51.01 | sadrak|work | yes :) |
| 15:51.07 | BoD_SWAT | anhi, "eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok" |
| 15:51.11 | [Elvis] | so if you replace the sources |
| 15:51.15 | xtension | sadrak|work just making sure :) |
| 15:51.16 | [Elvis] | you do upgrade or update first? |
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| 15:51.39 | nvz | [Elvis]: update first to update the cache. |
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| 15:51.56 | [Elvis] | I'm getting these weird errors...that's why |
| 15:52.10 | xtension | sadrak|work run lilo from a boot cd |
| 15:52.18 | [Elvis] | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.25 | [Elvis] | have you guys ever seen that during an update? |
| 15:52.39 | caphuso | Bombo: where did you get that ip-up.local from? |
| 15:52.40 | xtension | !tell [Elvis] about polls |
| 15:52.51 | sadrak|work | boot with rescue system and mount and lilo or what? |
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| 15:53.04 | xtension | sadrak|work exactly |
| 15:53.09 | [Elvis] | k xtension do you know what might be the problem? |
| 15:53.24 | caphuso | Bombo: wait, yes, it is wanted behaviour |
| 15:53.25 | xtension | [Elvis] eh ? |
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| 15:54.03 | [Elvis] | I'm getting Sub-process gzip received a segmentation fault. during apt-get update |
| 15:54.05 | mixonic | hi all |
| 15:54.26 | xtension | [Elvis] that s not good |
| 15:54.30 | stew | Bombo: are you sure run-parts isn't being run? are the names of the scripts in there run-parts friendly? |
| 15:54.30 | caphuso | Bombo: ip-up.local is what you use when you want to completely bypass ip-up.d/* |
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| 15:54.41 | mixonic | i have a server for an office quickly becoming a desktop, and I'm looking to have firewire/usb drives automagically mount. best practice for this on sarge? |
| 15:54.46 | caphuso | stew: he explicitely asked for them to not be run |
| 15:54.52 | stew | ok, nm |
| 15:55.00 | [Elvis] | no kidding extension, the question is what to do about it |
| 15:55.04 | xtension | [Elvis] run apt-setup and try to update |
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| 15:55.29 | nvz | notice that not even MS Windows XP, automagically manages mounting and unmounting of usb/firewire drives |
| 15:55.31 | xtension | [Elvis] select one source and retry |
| 15:55.38 | sparr_ | I have compiled custom drivers for my RAID controller, so now I have a .ko file sitting in the source tree. I am pretty sure I know where to put it (/lib/modules...), but how do I get it to load on boot instead of the current situation of loading broken drivers that Oops out? |
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| 15:55.58 | nvz | there is no way to notify a drive to flush its cache and unmount after its been unplugged |
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| 15:56.53 | xtension | nvz eheh |
| 15:56.54 | LordFrith | Well, you would think that you could pseudo-flush it and then unmount it, and just let the person live with the bad data. |
| 15:57.00 | nvz | I figured this out with my flashdrive, when I lost data from pulling it out prematurely |
| 15:57.21 | LordFrith | nvz: Noone ever likes pulling out prematurely. |
| 15:57.24 | xtension | nvz wireless drive ? |
| 15:57.59 | xtension | LordFrith i told the same thing last night to ... ah nevermind |
| 15:58.48 | lewis | nvz: do you have any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong, regarding SSH keys? |
| 16:00.17 | [Elvis] | ok xtension I keep getting the segmentation error |
| 16:00.19 | nvz | lewis: I've never run complex situations like that.. I'd try disampling pam logins and see if your keys are working.. then get help from ssh gurus on how to get them both working together.. try studying the SSH2 protocol in the manpage.. it explains in great detail how the protocol operates |
| 16:00.21 | [Elvis] | any way to solve this? |
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| 16:00.51 | xtension | [Elvis] apt-get install --reinstall apt-get |
| 16:01.15 | Bombo | stew: yes, i added a logger line to the ip-up ;) |
| 16:01.17 | xtension | [Elvis] eh? |
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| 16:01.31 | nvz | LordFrith: heh, thats why Windows XP has the "Safely Remove Hardware" thingy.. its the same as screaming "Uh I'm cumming" |
| 16:01.35 | [Elvis] | trying |
| 16:01.39 | xtension | [Elvis] haha |
| 16:01.40 | Bombo | caphuso: ok then, thx |
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| 16:01.49 | xtension | [Elvis] install apt-get from deb |
| 16:02.02 | xtension | [Elvis] dpkg -i some.deb |
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| 16:02.25 | cahoot | lewis: tried UsePAM no in sshd_config? |
| 16:02.32 | [Elvis] | what do you mean with some.deb? |
| 16:02.39 | xtension | [Elvis] might be sources.list too |
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| 16:02.53 | [Elvis] | which package would it be.. |
| 16:03.04 | xtension | [Elvis] maybe you added some strange line to your sources.list |
| 16:03.08 | nvz | cahoot: I've told him thats the way I've done it.. but he wants his user to be able to to keys without password, from only this one box, and everyone else to still require passwds |
| 16:03.32 | [Elvis] | what should happen if I put nothing in sources.list ? |
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| 16:03.41 | lewis | cahoot: i only want to not have a password when connecting from one specific machine. |
| 16:03.43 | [Elvis] | because I got the same error with apt setup |
| 16:03.46 | xtension | [Elvis] then you run apt-setup |
| 16:03.47 | nvz | personally I dont know anything about that... but I'd say disabling pam logins will tell you if your keys are working.. and then you can read logs and shit |
| 16:03.50 | lewis | I get this in verbose mode from SSH: http://pastebin.com/294653 |
| 16:04.03 | lewis | it looks like it reads the private key then ignores it |
| 16:04.14 | cahoot | lewis: nvz: I see - just picked up the latter part of the convo- sorry |
| 16:04.34 | lewis | cahoot: that is ok - help is appreciated |
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| 16:05.34 | [Elvis] | erm xtension keep getting the same error |
| 16:05.41 | xtension | lewis i had the same a few time but i dont remember how i fixed it, can you telnet host 22 ? |
| 16:05.49 | [Elvis] | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.28 | nvz | [Elvis]: *shrug* have you tried many different mirrors? |
| 16:06.43 | [Elvis] | I tried 3 or 4 |
| 16:06.52 | lewis | i would presume so, SSH works fine. |
| 16:06.55 | sparr_ | without any explicit configuration, how does my system decide to load the hpt366 module for my RAID controller? |
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| 16:07.27 | xtension | lewis bla bla bla |
| 16:07.28 | nvz | maybe it has discover installed :P |
| 16:07.31 | lewis | hopefully my permissions are correct, but it should be fairly simple, perhaps I created the keys wrong. |
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| 16:08.17 | lewis | xtension: it did work. i created keys by: ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 2048 -f rsync-key |
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| 16:08.23 | Rasko|nikov | apt_ mierda |
| 16:08.24 | [Elvis] | any ideas nvz ? |
| 16:08.29 | xtension | lewis try rsa |
| 16:08.36 | Rasko|nikov | apt_ hello |
| 16:08.37 | nvz | lewis: well you create the keys as the user that will login, then move the public keys from that users ~/.ssh/ into that users ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the host machine |
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| 16:09.08 | xtension | lewis lose the f part |
| 16:09.21 | lewis | ah - i created the keys as a different user. |
| 16:09.23 | nvz | [Elvis]: nope either your gzip is broken, or you are just trying alot of old or broken mirrors |
| 16:09.47 | nvz | [Elvis]: use apt-setup to locate a mirror or look on the debian website for up-to-date mirror lists |
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| 16:10.08 | jethro | lewis: if the key has an other name than id_{d,r}sa, you need to use ssh -i or load it in ssh-agent before you ssh to any host |
| 16:10.09 | [Elvis] | k but |
| 16:10.13 | [Elvis] | the mirrors aint broken |
| 16:10.15 | [Elvis] | my gzip is |
| 16:10.17 | [Elvis] | any way to fix that? |
| 16:10.27 | nvz | I have an idea alright.. but its not going to help anyone.. my idea involves going outside and getting high |
| 16:10.34 | xtension | [Elvis] dl the deb then |
| 16:10.37 | lewis | jethro: I was using 'ssh -i private_key hostname' |
| 16:10.40 | nvz | lack of anything interesting to do |
| 16:10.49 | sparr_ | nvz: i do have discover installed. so what tells discover which drivers go with which hardware? |
| 16:11.01 | [Elvis] | so download the deb |
| 16:11.04 | [Elvis] | dpkg -i the deb |
| 16:11.08 | [Elvis] | and that should work?/ |
| 16:11.11 | jethro | lewis: is it still the same issue you've been having for a few days now? |
| 16:11.18 | lewis | well, today. |
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| 16:11.46 | jethro | lewis: ah my bad then. I m confusing with another one. |
| 16:11.56 | nvz | sparr_: I dont _know_ but I would guess it looks at the same info things like lsusb lspci or isapnp look at.. the /proc/ filesystem to determine the hardware installed, then tries though cross-referenceing some iinternal database, loads the right modules |
| 16:12.18 | lewis | i'll create the keys on the remote-machine, as the user I will login as... |
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| 16:13.02 | nvz | sparr_: its just vendor/product and other specs provided though the /proc/ filesystem by the kernel I would imagine.. but I am just guessing I dont use discover |
| 16:13.09 | jethro | lewis: you usually create one keypair on a client host, and upload the public key on hosts you which to access using ssh |
| 16:13.50 | lewis | does it matter which user I create the files under? |
| 16:14.02 | xtension | lewis are you awake ? |
| 16:14.05 | [Elvis] | hmm xtension I get an error when dpkg -i gzip deb |
| 16:14.07 | [Elvis] | :p |
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| 16:14.08 | jethro | lewis: no it doesn't |
| 16:14.18 | xtension | jethro ? |
| 16:14.24 | jethro | lewis: it's usually the user account on the system you try to ssh from |
| 16:14.33 | xtension | lewis i know i know i know |
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| 16:14.44 | xtension | lewis i jsut rememeberd |
| 16:14.47 | [Elvis] | xtension I get the following error |
| 16:14.48 | lewis | yes? |
| 16:14.48 | [Elvis] | dpkg: error processing gzip (--install): |
| 16:14.48 | [Elvis] | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.50 | jethro | lewis: but you can create it as any user, and use it with any other users, as long as you copy the files at appropriate places |
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| 16:15.34 | jethro | lewis: man ssh-keygen is worth reading it |
| 16:15.38 | xtension | [Elvis] are you fond of your install ? |
| 16:15.45 | [Elvis] | no I'm not |
| 16:15.46 | lewis | jethro: ok then - then my current setup should be working, unless permissions are wrong, or i created the keys wrong 'ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 2048 etc....' |
| 16:15.53 | xtension | [Elvis] reinstall |
| 16:15.53 | [Elvis] | but I'm no in the position to reinstall it :( |
| 16:16.02 | [Elvis] | it's at home...and I'm in spain |
| 16:16.07 | xtension | [Elvis] ooo |
| 16:16.11 | [Elvis] | no way to solve this? |
| 16:16.13 | sparr_ | nvz: well, i need it to NOT load a particular driver, because that driver Oopses. i have a working replacement driver |
| 16:16.19 | xtension | [Elvis] sure there is |
| 16:16.30 | lewis | xtension: what was your winning idea? |
| 16:16.32 | FarrisG | I have 6 identical USB2.0 hard drives. Same vendor, model, rev, etc. Nothing in /proc/sys gives any unique data among them. Can anyone think of a relatively painless way to make udev able to recognize the individual drives and setup unique symlinks for all six, independent of when they are plugged/unplugged? |
| 16:16.37 | xtension | [Elvis] you can i.e. build from source |
| 16:16.54 | xtension | lewis i asked you to telnet |
| 16:17.12 | xtension | lewis brb |
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| 16:17.23 | lewis | xtension: i did. |
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| 16:17.35 | jethro | lewis: http://huizen.dto.tudelft.nl/devries/security/ssh2_pubkey_auth_config.html |
| 16:17.35 | nvz | sparr_: well I figure like hotplug, discover has some sort of blacklist for that exact purpose. I dont know however as I do not use it |
| 16:17.43 | sparr_ | using modutils, whats The Debian Way alternative to adding a module to modules.conf? |
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| 16:18.06 | lewis | jethro: thanks - reading |
| 16:18.29 | jethro | !pubkey auth |
| 16:18.46 | jethro | !pubkey auth is <reply> read this carefully -> http://huizen.dto.tudelft.nl/devries/security/ssh2_pubkey_auth_config.html |
| 16:18.47 | dpkg | okay, jethro |
| 16:19.28 | sparr_ | modules.conf says 'dont edit this file' |
| 16:19.32 | sparr_ | but i cant figure out which file to edit! |
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| 16:22.11 | Petaris | bbrazil: ping |
| 16:22.27 | [Elvis] | xtension I'm trying to build from source now |
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| 16:23.53 | [Elvis] | I was able to build it xtension but how will I make sure the system uses that version now? |
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| 16:24.17 | sparr_ | :( |
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| 16:25.32 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me how I can make the system use the version of gzip I compiled myself |
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| 16:25.33 | mendieta48 | hi |
| 16:25.40 | mendieta48 | I have a problem with tar |
| 16:26.01 | foka | mendieta48, What problem? :-) |
| 16:26.07 | mendieta48 | see |
| 16:26.27 | mendieta48 | tar tfv log200506.tar say |
| 16:26.42 | mosty | elvis: put it in /usr/local/bin and put that dir in your PATH before the dir with the original gzip |
| 16:26.50 | mendieta48 | -rw-r--r-- root/root 207 2005-06-03 10:30:01 log20050603.tar.bz2 |
| 16:26.51 | mendieta48 | -rw-r--r-- root/root 387228 2005-06-03 11:00:12 log20050603.tar.bz2 |
| 16:26.51 | mendieta48 | -rw-r--r-- root/root 1321290 2005-06-03 11:30:37 log20050603.tar.bz2 |
| 16:26.51 | mendieta48 | -rw-r--r-- root/root 207 2005-06-03 12:00:01 log20050603.tar.bz2 |
| 16:26.51 | mendieta48 | -rw-r--r-- root/root 1192410 2005-06-03 12:30:35 log20050603.tar.bz2 |
| 16:26.51 | mendieta48 | -rw-r--r-- root/root 208 2005-06-03 13:00:01 log20050603.tar.bz2 |
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| 16:26.55 | stew | sparr_: i think you want man update-modules |
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| 16:27.06 | mendieta48 | sorry |
| 16:27.26 | jethro | !tell mendieta48 -about paste |
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| 16:27.31 | mendieta48 | ok |
| 16:27.35 | xtension | mendieta48 tar -tvf |
| 16:27.54 | mosty | i'm trying to remember the name of an x proxy i used to use, it allowed you to redirect the display x clients where displayed on. can anyone help jog my memory? |
| 16:27.58 | xtension | [Elvis] make install |
| 16:28.44 | [Elvis] | I allready did make |
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| 16:28.47 | [Elvis] | should I use make install? |
| 16:28.53 | mendieta48 | ok |
| 16:28.59 | sparr_ | i am going to try to set up some software RAID between some new hard drives. the first step is to partition the drives, right? |
| 16:29.00 | sussudio | wtf is rocklinux? |
| 16:29.03 | mendieta48 | how I can extract a particular file |
| 16:29.08 | mendieta48 | a particular version of a file |
| 16:29.37 | jethro | mendieta48: man tar |
| 16:29.57 | [Elvis] | ok xtension I did the make install |
| 16:30.06 | [Elvis] | but now when i type gzip it still gives me segmentation error |
| 16:30.15 | [Elvis] | and if I type ./gzip for the self compiled it works fine |
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| 16:31.10 | torron | awyy |
| 16:31.14 | torron | ola |
| 16:31.18 | bernouli | i want to install libc6-dev, but it depends linux-kernel-headers, so i go install linux-kernel-headers, but it depends libc6-dev, what should i do? |
| 16:31.30 | jethro | Eiggen: which debian s that? |
| 16:31.36 | torron | tu no sabes ablar en español |
| 16:31.38 | jethro | [Elvis]: ^^ |
| 16:31.39 | torron | ? |
| 16:31.40 | jethro | !es |
| 16:31.40 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:31.45 | sparr_ | I do not have a hda. hdb is my boot/root drive. however, if i attach a hda then i get 'Error loading Operating System' when i try to boot off hdb. how can i 'fix' my MBR and disk boot stuff to try to eliminate this problem? |
| 16:32.09 | bernouli | i use apt |
| 16:32.17 | torron | hello |
| 16:32.26 | jethro | bernouli: apt-get install both on the same line |
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| 16:32.43 | jethro | bernouli: "apt-get install libc6-dev kernel-headers" |
| 16:32.47 | bernouli | it works, thanks |
| 16:32.49 | waynegrow | hello |
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| 16:33.18 | Eiggen | jethro: which debian is what? |
| 16:33.21 | waynegrow | I'm using putty with ssh to conect to a sarge box, I have x11 working, how do I get to the GUI side of things once putty is up? |
| 16:33.28 | jethro | Eiggen: that was meant for [Elvis] sorry. |
| 16:33.32 | drac | jethro: Hmm, just getting kernel-headers is able to check 'uname -r' to get correct headers? |
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| 16:34.12 | jethro | drac: I don't think it matters much, to install libc6-dev at least |
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| 16:34.45 | lewis | jethro: i followed it part for part, and either I am doing something very silly, or something is wrong, i am never asked to enter a passphase (even though I haven't got one), always a password... |
| 16:34.47 | jethro | drac: otoh, the idea was to let him know about installing multiple packages in the same command line |
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| 16:34.56 | drac | jethro: ah okay. |
| 16:35.05 | jethro | lewis: /msg dpkg pebcak :) |
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| 16:35.44 | torron | ola |
| 16:36.01 | lewis | ok thanks - anything besides that to suggest? |
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| 16:36.12 | jethro | lewis: could you run ssh -vvv and paste the output one some pastebin (yes, again, or point me to the previous one) |
| 16:36.15 | TNKS | hi all, I was wondering about the kernel option SHMEM. Menuconfig defaults to making this an non-optional, always-enabled parameter, but is SHMEM at all useful for a single-processor machine? |
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| 16:36.35 | torron | i speak spanish |
| 16:36.38 | torron | ? |
| 16:36.42 | jethro | torron: /msg dpkg es |
| 16:36.55 | lewis | oh - does more Vs, more more verbosity? |
| 16:37.00 | jethro | torron: there are spanish debian support channels, just ask dpkg |
| 16:37.04 | torron | illo hablas spanis |
| 16:37.05 | jethro | lewis: yes it does, read man ssh :) |
| 16:37.14 | jethro | !tell torron -about es |
| 16:37.14 | lewis | heh - er - i knew that - just testing you |
| 16:37.16 | xtension | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.24 | jethro | !lart lewis |
| 16:37.29 | waynegrow | I'm using putty with ssh to conect to a sarge box, I have x11 working, how do I get to the GUI side of things once putty is up? |
| 16:37.29 | juanmals | torron /join #debian-es |
| 16:37.39 | xtension | the first time i read that |
| 16:37.52 | jethro | waynegrow: you need an X server on the client side |
| 16:37.58 | mendieta48 | please I need help, I have more of 1 version of a same file in a tarball, how I can extract a specific version, if all files have same name? |
| 16:38.01 | jethro | waynegrow: you run putty on windows? |
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| 16:38.15 | crashbg | i have a question: in my firewall rules there are lines containing "\" and the line continues on the next line. Can i remove the "\" symbol and glue the 2 lines together |
| 16:38.15 | sussudio | mendieta48: why do you come here? you don't even run debian. |
| 16:38.19 | waynegrow | jethro yes |
| 16:38.20 | jethro | mendieta48: man tar / info tar has all you need to know |
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| 16:38.36 | lewis | jethro: thank you - http://pastebin.com/294672 |
| 16:38.41 | sparr_ | I want to benchmark two drives (same drive hardware, different controllers, different drivers) against each other. What tools should I use for a quick rough estimate of read/write performance? |
| 16:38.47 | jethro | waynegrow: that's gonna be a pain. I ve used cygwin/xfree, there are probably other solutions, free or not |
| 16:38.51 | stew | sparr_: bonnie++ |
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| 16:39.09 | waynegrow | jethro: i have cygwin installed but not sure how to get it working |
| 16:39.10 | torron | hello |
| 16:39.12 | crashbg | i think the "\" symbol just splits one command line into 2 smaller is this right? |
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| 16:39.29 | lewis | jethro: pfft - on line 87, ssh gives up it seems: "debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method" (than ignores key method) |
| 16:39.30 | jethro | waynegrow: cygwin/xfree is not on topic here, though. you want to google a bit |
| 16:39.39 | sparr_ | stew: will bonnie require the drives to be partitioned? formatted? |
| 16:39.45 | stew | sparr_: yes, yes |
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| 16:40.01 | torron | que |
| 16:40.05 | [Elvis] | xtension, I did the make install.. |
| 16:40.06 | keenan | crashbg: technically it escapes the following newline character, but yes |
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| 16:42.04 | jethro | lewis: read line 6. you id_dsa file is not a valid private key |
| 16:42.04 | xtension | [Elvis] and its still broken |
| 16:42.19 | jethro | lewis: nevermind what I just said |
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| 16:42.28 | [Elvis] | well if I type ./gzip in the dir itself |
| 16:42.31 | [Elvis] | it works |
| 16:42.35 | [Elvis] | but gzip doesn't |
| 16:42.43 | lewis | ok... i am searching the line i mentioned earlier on google... |
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| 16:44.03 | oscar | illo que ables en español |
| 16:44.08 | oscar | mamon |
| 16:44.11 | shingouz | !es |
| 16:44.11 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:44.12 | lef | hm, anyone knows if and how I can get helvetica medium (the fonts) on sarge? |
| 16:44.45 | oscar | qu7e |
| 16:45.00 | jethro | lewis: this is puzzling me |
| 16:45.05 | lewis | me too |
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| 16:45.18 | [Elvis] | xtension I guess this error is really bad shit? |
| 16:45.18 | [Elvis] | linux-router:/etc/apt# cp sources.backup sources.list |
| 16:45.18 | [Elvis] | Segmentation fault |
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| 16:45.21 | oscar | helo |
| 16:45.27 | oscar | hello |
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| 16:45.48 | lewis | what do you think of the bit: we did not send a packet, disable method |
| 16:46.04 | furrywolf | chances are you have bad ram, motherboard, etc... or your kernel's been 0wned. |
| 16:46.05 | [Elvis] | wait |
| 16:46.07 | [Elvis] | apt-get updat works |
| 16:46.08 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 16:46.09 | [Elvis] | weeeee |
| 16:46.09 | jethro | lewis: well, I read 'we sent a packet' 2 lines above, so this is puzzling me |
| 16:46.19 | mixonic | anyone using pmount/hal and automounting drives? |
| 16:46.44 | jethro | lewis: are you using default settings on both the client and the server? |
| 16:46.45 | buu | What package would I need to make "man strftime" work? |
| 16:47.12 | m4lu7 | Anybody here especially good w/advanced partitioning, specifically, Raid? |
| 16:47.21 | lewis | I haven't changed any files in /etc/ssh - no |
| 16:47.39 | [Elvis] | xtension gzip works now...but I get another error :) |
| 16:47.39 | bernouli | why does it take so long on MTA by booting up? |
| 16:48.09 | lewis | (on either machine) - so default ssh/sshd installations on both machines |
| 16:48.16 | xtension | [Elvis] you get a segfault on cp ? |
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| 16:48.20 | lewis | using sarge/testing versions, if that helps. |
| 16:48.41 | jethro | lewis: and you have PubkeyAuthentication set to yes on the server, and file permissions are ok? |
| 16:48.42 | xtension | [Elvis] say no |
| 16:48.43 | [Elvis] | Reading Package Lists... Error! |
| 16:48.43 | [Elvis] | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 16:48.43 | [Elvis] | E: Error occured while processing libapr0 (NewVersion1) |
| 16:48.45 | _Raiden_ | is com1 on debian ttyS0 or ttys0 ? |
| 16:48.53 | _Raiden_ | it keeps spewing input/output error |
| 16:49.00 | jethro | [Elvis]: please don't paste here, use a pastebin |
| 16:49.05 | [Elvis] | k |
| 16:49.13 | xtension | [Elvis] ok you have some line stable and unstable mixed |
| 16:49.18 | resiak | !dynamic mmap |
| 16:49.18 | dpkg | methinks dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 16:49.23 | jethro | !lart [Elvis] |
| 16:50.01 | exobyte | no!! no!!! I passed OSes. no fuckin more mmap |
| 16:50.18 | jethro | [Elvis]: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin ? |
| 16:50.26 | [Elvis] | sure |
| 16:50.33 | _Raiden_ | anyone ? |
| 16:50.36 | [Elvis] | do you have a url to a pastebin? |
| 16:50.41 | jethro | !pastebin |
| 16:50.41 | dpkg | methinks pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca |
| 16:50.43 | sphere | _Raiden_: FATALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 16:50.54 | jethro | [Elvis]: that one will do. |
| 16:50.55 | resiak | _Raiden_: ls /dev/tty{s,S}0 |
| 16:51.00 | _Raiden_ | sphere: lol to my com1 yes |
| 16:51.06 | resiak | _Raiden_: ls -l /dev/tty{s,S}0 |
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| 16:51.14 | exobyte | California should steal .ca from canada |
| 16:51.14 | _Raiden_ | resiak: gives me s |
| 16:51.32 | xtension | exobyte whats a california ? |
| 16:51.32 | resiak | _Raiden_: *shrug* I have both, and I'm not sure why :-) |
| 16:51.44 | _Raiden_ | doh! |
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| 16:51.47 | _Raiden_ | ;) |
| 16:51.48 | exobyte | xtension: fuckin google it |
| 16:51.54 | lewis | jethro: well, I checked the debian bug list, and found quite a few for SSH, though i don't think i found my problem. |
| 16:52.00 | xtension | exobyte amrican ? |
| 16:52.08 | jethro | lewis: which version of debian is that? |
| 16:52.12 | exobyte | xtension: perhaps |
| 16:52.14 | lewis | sarge/testing |
| 16:52.14 | _Raiden_ | resiak: i checked everything in kernel and on lsmod but everything seems loaded |
| 16:52.24 | xtension | exobyte euro is better than dollar now |
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| 16:52.50 | jethro | lewis: I have no issue with sarge or sid, and I use PubkeyAuthentication daily. Password are just forbidden. your issue is really weird |
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| 16:52.55 | exobyte | xtension: yeah, well, stronger, that is |
| 16:53.10 | xtension | exobyte yeah stronger and better |
| 16:53.30 | exobyte | xtension: but the UK doesn't use the euro |
| 16:53.31 | sphere | california is the gay state |
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| 16:53.41 | lewis | after you had put the .pub into authorized_keys, what did you do, for the first time you connected the client as the remote user? |
| 16:53.47 | paulswm | !tell sphere about gay |
| 16:53.47 | xtension | exobyte whts a uk ? |
| 16:53.47 | exobyte | sphere: and I might not be straight. what's your point? |
| 16:53.53 | sphere | the amsterdam of the northern america is in there |
| 16:54.05 | exobyte | xtension: united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland |
| 16:54.06 | bcole | does the kernel need to be re-compiled to make/install alsa? |
| 16:54.14 | sphere | I don't think quebec wants to give it up |
| 16:54.22 | exobyte | sphere: san francisco? |
| 16:54.26 | sphere | of course |
| 16:54.37 | paulswm | exobyte: You're feeding the troll, my west coast friend :) |
| 16:54.48 | [Elvis] | jethro http://pastebin.ca/13284 |
| 16:54.58 | exobyte | paulswm: it's fun, as long as we keep him in his cage |
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| 16:55.02 | sphere | woof |
| 16:55.18 | xtension | [Elvis] do u listen ? |
| 16:55.22 | xtension | [Elvis] at all ? |
| 16:55.28 | exobyte | our state flower causes people to fail drug tests. how kick ass is that?! |
| 16:55.37 | paulswm | Of course not, he's dead. |
| 16:55.39 | nvz | heh |
| 16:55.40 | jethro | [Elvis]: 1/ you shouldn't be mixing stable and unstable. 2/ you shoudln't be using unstable at all |
| 16:55.47 | nvz | exobyte: what flower? |
| 16:55.47 | xtension | [Elvis] keep line 1 uncomment the rest |
| 16:55.55 | sphere | exobyte: do you do meth |
| 16:55.57 | exobyte | nvz: poppy |
| 16:56.03 | exobyte | sphere: no.. |
| 16:56.05 | sphere | :( |
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| 16:56.06 | jethro | !tell [Elvis] -about unstable |
| 16:56.10 | paulswm | !ganjasmite exobyte |
| 16:56.17 | xtension | [Elvis] and make sure you are on sid |
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| 16:56.24 | lewis | right, well, then jethro, thanks for the try |
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| 16:56.50 | kab00m | hi folks |
| 16:57.01 | jethro | lewis: I m sorry I can't help. what I d do is restart from scratch if I were you. |
| 16:57.22 | xtension | [Elvis] uncomment a line by adding a # in front of it |
| 16:57.29 | tarzeau | jethro: #bub-n-bros |
| 16:57.40 | lewis | i have a 3rd machine i can experiment with - i'll get back to you |
| 16:57.46 | sphere | xtension: uh |
| 16:57.59 | sphere | oh you're Dutch nm :) |
| 16:58.06 | [Elvis] | I know xtension |
| 16:58.08 | [Elvis] | it works now |
| 16:58.31 | xtension | [Elvis] try to listen , you get better results |
| 16:58.51 | sphere | net als in de film, ik wil het |
| 16:59.04 | nvz | I am downloading some upgrades, while I am sitting around here online doing nothing :P |
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| 16:59.27 | nvz | I've been living with bugs for a long time on here |
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| 16:59.50 | sphere | nvz: it is a proven fact that downloads are more efficient if you watch them |
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| 16:59.56 | sphere | otherwise the computer gets lazy |
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| 17:00.46 | nvz | sphere: I know.. alt+left and other combinations depending on where my hands are, can easily keep watch.. its doing about 510kb/sec, and I am pretty happy :) |
| 17:01.11 | nvz | sphere: went down to 375 while I was typing and not looking though :P |
| 17:01.36 | sphere | see! |
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| 17:02.02 | jethro | lewis: alright |
| 17:02.19 | tarzeau | hehe hi xtension |
| 17:02.22 | tarzeau | jethro: you don't join? |
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| 17:02.51 | sparr_ | using the drivers provided by the manufacturer for my RAID controller, along with scsi emulation, i lose about 10% on my disk read speed. not horrible, i guess |
| 17:02.57 | jethro | tarzeau: in a minute |
| 17:03.22 | goron | Is there some free alternative to Visual Route? |
| 17:03.49 | cbr | packagers, please package the new nvidia driver, kthx ;D |
| 17:04.19 | tarzeau | cbr: that won't work |
| 17:04.23 | tarzeau | cbr: it's non-free |
| 17:04.38 | tarzeau | cbr: you package it yourself: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 17:05.06 | cbr | nah, i'll break it |
| 17:05.07 | cbr | :p |
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| 17:05.19 | nvz | sphere: I actually thing kdelibsdata is why it slowed down.. heh.. damn k3b |
| 17:06.59 | cbr | tarzeau: it's in the non-free directory |
| 17:07.07 | cbr | isn't it maintained by debian devs then? |
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| 17:07.44 | sphere | nvz: another great lesson learnt |
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| 17:07.56 | sphere | [sub]gnome > kde[/sub] |
| 17:08.06 | sphere | did I type that out loud |
| 17:08.09 | sphere | :o |
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| 17:08.24 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.44 | nvz | its sounding like its stopping or something |
| 17:09.14 | sphere | time to load up some dvd+rs nvz |
| 17:09.56 | nvz | gah.. well I guess I could, I have this DVD+RW drive here |
| 17:10.08 | sphere | wee |
| 17:10.26 | sphere | growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -r -J /path/to/critical/data |
| 17:10.34 | Papiertiger | in which package can i find the xf86Version.h? it doesn't seem to be included in the standard dev-packages |
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| 17:10.42 | nvz | I hear it make a light click sound, then sound like its spins up every 45 seconds.. while I am upgrading. |
| 17:10.48 | nvz | doesnt sound right to me |
| 17:11.19 | sphere | seriously tho, you know that death is imminent for that drive? |
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| 17:11.38 | nvz | I just bought it last year |
| 17:11.42 | nvz | POS |
| 17:11.46 | sphere | cackle |
| 17:12.06 | ralf | anyone has installed ICC on debian? |
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| 17:12.35 | xinming | anyone here can tell me which command to start the window manager only? It seems that in debian, it will always use x-session-manager |
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| 17:12.52 | xinming | even if I configed x-window-manager, It not works at all |
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| 17:13.23 | nvz | ahh! this better be a bad cable or my cousins disk controller or something |
| 17:13.38 | nvz | this little fucker cant die on me, I'd kill it first :P |
| 17:14.10 | sphere | are you referring to your cousin |
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| 17:14.19 | nvz | no the 120GB hd |
| 17:14.29 | paulswm | exobyte: qotd125 |
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| 17:14.54 | nvz | I've used less than 40 total |
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| 17:17.00 | xinming | anyone here would help? |
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| 17:17.53 | nvz | I dont know what is more scary, the lengthy apt-listbugs report on this upgrade, or the fact that I didnt realize I had half of the shit selected |
| 17:17.55 | revenger | does anyone know a small X app (not a wmaker dockapp) which is able to display the battery status? |
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| 17:19.09 | drac | !tell Xinux about away |
| 17:19.20 | paulswm | Dammit drac you beat me to it :( |
| 17:19.21 | nvz | #309143 - xlibs: libxpm4's new s_popen() function is insecure garbage |
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| 17:20.00 | nvz | some people get right to the point |
| 17:20.40 | gvandora | I'm trying to mount an NTFS file system. It mounts, except only root can read it. I have the permissions set to allow all to read the mount point. However, the permissions change once the NTFS volume is mounted. |
| 17:21.17 | K_Dallas | gvandora, i think you need somehing like this: umask 0222 |
| 17:21.39 | sphere | gvandora: pay with umask |
| 17:21.42 | sphere | play too |
| 17:22.07 | sphere | actually you can just use umask=0000 because the kernel will mount it read-only anyway |
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| 17:22.39 | bcole | does the kernel need to be re-compiled to make/install alsa? |
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| 17:23.23 | sphere | nvz: please tell us when the drive fals apart so we can have a laugh at your expense ok |
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| 17:25.10 | nvz | sphere: in my current setup, I am sure I would be unable to tell you when that happens |
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| 17:26.21 | gvandora | sphere: I'm not sure I really follow. Why would mount change the permissions of the mount point. I know ntfs will be read only... but I need other users to able to read the volume |
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| 17:27.52 | sphere | manually mount it something like mount -o umask=0000 -t ntfs /mountpoint /partition |
| 17:27.54 | paulswm | gvandora: The mount POINT permissions and the mounted FILESYETM permissions are two different things |
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| 17:28.22 | sphere | nvz: please don't tell me you actually have a backup of the data |
| 17:28.26 | sphere | that would ruin the fun |
| 17:28.36 | enamorado | alguna tia para hablar |
| 17:28.46 | paulswm | gvandora: when you mount a filesystem, its permissions override those of the mount point, in other words |
| 17:28.46 | sphere | enamorado: yeah |
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| 17:29.00 | gvandora | paulswm: How would i go about letting normal users read the ntfs volume. I have users specified inthe mount options |
| 17:29.14 | enamorado | sphere conesta alpribado |
| 17:29.23 | sphere | enamorado: sure why not |
| 17:29.43 | enamorado | sphere que me quiere de dir |
| 17:30.06 | sphere | enamorado: :) |
| 17:30.06 | paulswm | gvandora: man mount, section on options for ntfs |
| 17:30.28 | enamorado | sphere conesta al preibado |
| 17:30.29 | K_Dallas | never thought german to english translation to be that ridiculous :) |
| 17:30.33 | sphere | bloody dvdauthor |
| 17:30.58 | sphere | enamorado: whatever gets you off man, we are open-minded in here |
| 17:31.10 | enamorado | no te en tiendo |
| 17:31.16 | stew | !es |
| 17:31.16 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:31.52 | gvandora | paulswm: I've looked through there... I'm stumped... that's why I'm here |
| 17:32.03 | enamorado | sphere contesta |
| 17:32.11 | uga_ | hola |
| 17:32.11 | sphere | enamorado: probably |
| 17:32.14 | paulswm | gvandora: It's in there, uid, gid, umask |
| 17:32.28 | enamorado | alguna tia que hable espain |
| 17:32.33 | uga_ | yo |
| 17:32.41 | stew | enamorado: /j #debian-es |
| 17:32.47 | gpm | gvandora: i think the users option lets users mount stuff |
| 17:32.48 | gvandora | paulswm: I'll take another look, thanks for your patience |
| 17:32.56 | gvandora | exit |
| 17:33.03 | gpm | you mean /quit |
| 17:33.03 | paulswm | gvandora: uid and gid allows mount as a specific user, umask sets filesystem permissions, you have already been given suggestions for umask here |
| 17:33.14 | paulswm | Fuck |
| 17:33.25 | enamorado | sphere habla epain |
| 17:33.27 | paulswm | I mean, "Bless my soul." |
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| 17:34.29 | sphere | paulswm: not right now thanks |
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| 17:34.49 | rob_lt | Anyone here know how to load the NASA sat maps into gpsdrive? |
| 17:35.03 | paulswm | !fruitsmite sphere |
| 17:35.07 | paulswm | :D |
| 17:35.11 | sphere | :9 |
| 17:35.24 | sphere | so anyway |
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| 17:35.41 | xerophyte | draftly how many words are on one page :) |
| 17:35.42 | sphere | any suggestions how I fix an IFO with the VOBs I got |
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| 17:35.51 | sphere | I can't get growisofs to burninate my set :( |
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| 17:37.06 | Frafra | hi all |
| 17:37.24 | Frafra | i've installed gnome phone manager |
| 17:37.33 | Frafra | and my phone ask me the code of protection of debian@amd64 etc. O.o |
| 17:40.54 | paulswm | sphere: wish I could help, sorry |
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| 17:44.31 | dirthead | I am using woody r6 and our nfs suddenly stopped working. I restarted the nfs servers and this is the message I got: Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon...172.16.32.9:/mirror: Invalid argument |
| 17:44.38 | dirthead | WTF? |
| 17:45.20 | dirthead | It has been working great for years. Why did it suddenly quit? I just upgraded to r6, did that do it? |
| 17:46.01 | illyk | hello--I'm having a problem with the sarge net install and was hopin' other have seen this before. After going through the install process flawlessly and rebooting the first time I am taken to a grub prompt which is unusable and seemingly frozen. I have gone through the process about 7 times...changing bootflags, other mrb options...and still no luck...I am running this on a compaq dl580 with 4x700xeons...any takers? |
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| 17:47.53 | jfreeOn | hi |
| 17:47.57 | illyk | hello |
| 17:49.01 | jfreeOn | nothing about sarge? |
| 17:49.07 | jfreeOn | when is goingt to become stable? |
| 17:49.15 | jfreeOn | one week? two? |
| 17:49.18 | seldon | !wwsr |
| 17:49.19 | dpkg | Sarge will release WIR; SIYH. The current estimate is that it will be released around June 6th. Latest release update: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00020.html and ask me about <sarge pool>, <wir>, <siyh>, <sarge guess> and <sing sarge>. Sarge takes too long? ask me about <vancouver> |
| 17:49.21 | sphere | when all the RCBs are gone |
| 17:49.30 | jfreeOn | thx seldon, sorry :) |
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| 17:49.45 | seldon | You could also have read the topic. |
| 17:49.56 | seldon | It was shown to you when you joined the channel. |
| 17:50.02 | sphere | just build your sources.list with sarge instead of testing and you don't have to worry at all |
| 17:50.13 | jfreeOn | i think i've said sorry, but thanks again |
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| 17:50.30 | fas3r | hi alll |
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| 17:50.44 | seldon | Oh, sorry. I wasn't trying to be unfriendly. I just thought it might help you next time,. |
| 17:50.45 | fas3r | what's the modules ds ........ for pcmcia i don't find it |
| 17:50.59 | ekelmendi | anyone made mono 1.1.7 debs? |
| 17:51.07 | fas3r | and in my syslog i have a big error he say FATAL module ds not find |
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| 17:51.20 | sphere | seldon: this channel is filled with pedants, you're easily mistaken for one. |
| 17:51.24 | jfreeOn | ok seldon, no problem, i'm new here, i dont speak english :P |
| 17:51.43 | seldon | sphere: you mean pedant_ic_s ;P |
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| 17:51.54 | sphere | I rest my case. |
| 17:51.57 | EdibleText | !dict pedant |
| 17:51.59 | dpkg | Dictionary 'pedant' (3): 2. One who puts on an air of learning; one who makes a vain display of learning; a pretender to superior knowledge. --Addison. ;; A pedant that keeps a school i'th' church. --Shak. ;; Pedant \Ped"ant\, n. [F. p['e]dant, It. pedante, fr. Gr. ? to instruct, from pai^s boy. See Pedagogue.] 1. A schoolmaster; a pedagogue. [Obs.] --Dryden.. |
| 17:52.20 | jfreeOn | ohh this dictionary is wonderfull :) |
| 17:52.21 | seldon | Damn. For once I try to make a joke and it backfires. |
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| 17:52.30 | jfreeOn | anyone can use it? |
| 17:52.33 | sphere | :)) |
| 17:52.40 | sphere | jfreeOn: preferably not in the channel |
| 17:52.47 | illyk | !dict obvious |
| 17:52.49 | seldon | /msg dpkg dict foobar |
| 17:52.49 | dpkg | Dictionary 'obvious' (3 of 5): 2. Exposed; subject; open; liable. [Obs.] ``Obvious to dispute.'' --Milton. ;; To the evil turn My obvious breast. --Milton. ;; 3. Easily discovered, seen, or understood; readily perceived by the eye or the intellect; plain; evident; apparent; as, an obvious meaning; an obvious remark.. |
| 17:52.53 | sphere | /msg dpkg dict fart |
| 17:52.58 | jfreeOn | aha, ok sphere but i can use a query dont I |
| 17:53.00 | jfreeOn | ? |
| 17:53.15 | jfreeOn | ok seldon , thanks, again!! :P |
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| 17:53.46 | illyk | !dict sarge net installloads to grub and is unsuable |
| 17:53.47 | dpkg | could not find definition for sarge net installloads to grub and is unsuable |
| 17:53.55 | illyk | damn |
| 17:53.57 | jfreeOn | and dpkg has other functions? |
| 17:54.07 | seldon | /msg dpkg help |
| 17:54.11 | sadrak|work | how can i get the exact source for a kernel-image? in SID is an image 2.6.11 which works but has a bad config (for me *g*) and another kernel with this config wont work :/ |
| 17:54.16 | nvz | !yinzersmite illyk |
| 17:54.19 | jfreeOn | aha |
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| 17:54.37 | sadrak|work | the info for the SID image is (source for the kernel was 2.6.11-2 - 2.6.11-5 ) |
| 17:54.43 | gvandora | help |
| 17:54.58 | sphere | HAPL |
| 17:55.10 | sphere | gvandora: still toying with ntfs? |
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| 17:55.32 | gvandora | sphere: ALL BETTER :) - sorry, I didn't understand the umask thing |
| 17:55.49 | sadrak|work | hmmmmm |
| 17:55.52 | crashbg | where kan i find info about creating from scratch firewall with nat, port forwarding, using several interfaces(multihomin) etc. |
| 17:55.55 | sphere | [19:33] <paulswm> gvandora: uid and gid allows mount as a specific user, umask sets filesystem permissions, you have already been given suggestions for umask here |
| 17:56.03 | sphere | oh ok |
| 17:56.03 | gvandora | sphere: I didn't know it was reversed... so that 0444 means take off write.... but I'm good |
| 17:56.22 | gvandora | thanks for your help |
| 17:56.25 | gvandora | exit |
| 17:56.29 | gvandora | e/quit |
| 17:56.30 | sphere | you mean /quit |
| 17:56.32 | sphere | har har |
| 17:56.33 | illyk | ha |
| 17:56.33 | jfreeOn | crashbg, i made a LOF but i think that`s not what you are looking for |
| 17:56.41 | shivraj | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.45 | gvandora | format C:\ ..... |
| 17:56.50 | sphere | does titanium count |
| 17:56.56 | jfreeOn | crashbg, once you have read about LFS you will not have problems |
| 17:56.57 | seldon | crashbg: Ask google for "netfilter tutorial", that should give you lots of helpful links. |
| 17:57.06 | shivraj | titanium is a metal on the periodic table |
| 17:57.21 | crashbg | ok thanks people ;) |
| 17:57.21 | shivraj | I gotta crazy glue by keyboard, it just cracked |
| 17:57.52 | mixonic | gah |
| 17:57.53 | jfreeOn | wich one is the bot who managed the nicks? |
| 17:58.00 | mixonic | i see drives in messages |
| 17:58.02 | jfreeOn | iin this irc net... |
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| 17:58.07 | mixonic | but thjey dont auto pmount |
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| 17:59.34 | sparr_ | how often is more than 10GB needed in /tmp? |
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| 18:00.04 | seldon | Errr...veery close to never, I should think. |
| 18:00.06 | jethro | sparr_: every monphase |
| 18:00.10 | jethro | moon even |
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| 18:00.13 | sphere | 10G seems excessive if you ask me |
| 18:00.25 | sparr_ | well, im partitioning my new drives in 10G chunks, to keep things simple |
| 18:00.29 | sparr_ | i can leave /tmp part of / |
| 18:00.37 | cuti | hey |
| 18:00.40 | cuti | i have a question |
| 18:00.40 | sparr_ | or i can give it its own partition |
| 18:00.49 | nvz | cuti: then ask. |
| 18:00.56 | EdibleText | !? |
| 18:01.03 | cuti | how come i shutdown vmware but top still tell me that i have 973920k memory used |
| 18:01.05 | sphere | I think my tmp is 500MB or so |
| 18:01.15 | paulswm | sparr_: You could mount tmpfs on it, thyen it's part of your memory / swap space |
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| 18:01.25 | cuti | 973920k is my current ram use? |
| 18:01.29 | stew | cuti: /msg dpkg free memory |
| 18:01.36 | cuti | i only have xchat running right now |
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| 18:01.45 | resiak | I've been dancing around trying out different WMs, but have reverted to what I was using before. As I was experimenting, I found that sometimes the scrollwheel on my mouse was made doubly sensitive. Sadly, it seems to be stuck being doubly sensitive even back in my original WM. Where is this controlled? |
| 18:01.47 | sphere | msg dpkg free memory |
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| 18:01.54 | cuti | ok |
| 18:02.00 | cuti | thanks stew |
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| 18:02.12 | resiak | sparr_: Why do 10GiB chunks make things simpler? |
| 18:02.23 | sparr_ | resiak: because im drawing the layout on a spreadsheet :-p |
| 18:02.25 | sparr_ | anyone have any anecdotes for/against putting swap on rAID? |
| 18:02.28 | sparr_ | RAID |
| 18:02.49 | sparr_ | resiak: and i said GB :-p |
| 18:03.09 | resiak | sparr_: Either way, how on earth does that help anything? What if you need more than 10GB on, say, /home ? |
| 18:03.20 | paulswm | resiak: lvm |
| 18:03.32 | resiak | paulswm: Ahhh. |
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| 18:03.46 | sparr_ | ... /home is going to be 30GB of RAID 5 |
| 18:03.52 | sparr_ | or maybe 60GB |
| 18:03.54 | sparr_ | havent decided yet |
| 18:04.03 | paulswm | resiak: I break my disks into 20 or 40 GB chunks so I can move stuff around easily and resize upwards simply. |
| 18:04.38 | resiak | paulswm: I've never got around to using LVM, but it's a sane idea; I'd forgotten about it, TBH. Of course, I only _have_ 40GB in this laptop :-) |
| 18:04.44 | sparr_ | im trying to accomplish a few things. a) learn about software RAID. b) improve system performance by using RAID 0 or 5. c) organize my partitions better |
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| 18:05.00 | sparr_ | right now ive got 60GB+120GB |
| 18:05.05 | sparr_ | im moving to 120+250+250+250+250 |
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| 18:05.09 | paulswm | Heh, I have about 1.5 TB but now spread over 3 boxes :) |
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| 18:06.09 | sparr_ | im trying to be creative in my organization as well |
| 18:06.21 | mixonic | gar, udev not creating device nodes... |
| 18:06.36 | paulswm | sparr_: If you're going to use RAID0 you double your risk of losing data, also you won't see much performance improvement if your disks are on the same controller. |
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| 18:06.45 | sparr_ | paulswm: i know, and they arent. |
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| 18:07.15 | sparr_ | paulswm: paulswm: well, the RAID disks are on seperate controllers, but two of them share with other drives |
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| 18:07.29 | paulswm | sparr_: OK, it's difficult to judge someone's skill level, didn't mean to talk down to you. |
| 18:07.37 | sphere | spantiga: pls tell me the RAID5 will not be partitions on the same disk |
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| 18:07.46 | sparr_ | sphere: of course not |
| 18:07.54 | sphere | just checking |
| 18:08.11 | resiak | mixonic: Are the appropriate modules loaded? |
| 18:08.44 | paulswm | Also, if you are using lvm, RAID0 is not really necessary as you can stripe in lvm |
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| 18:09.01 | mixonic | sbp2, sg, sr_mod.... |
| 18:09.04 | sparr_ | im not using lvm |
| 18:09.05 | mixonic | anything else for a fw drive? |
| 18:09.15 | mixonic | crap |
| 18:09.19 | mixonic | sd_mod or something right? |
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| 18:10.08 | mwelsh | i have a question somewhat off topic. has anyone here modded a PSU into a bench power supply? |
| 18:10.27 | jetscreamer | hey, an idiot could configure debian in order to change from a static ip to using dhcp, right? so a 16 year old should be able to figure it out, esp. with 1week advance warning... right? |
| 18:10.45 | mixonic | lol |
| 18:10.46 | LordFrith | mwelsh: I found a couple of howtos on that. |
| 18:10.53 | shingouz | jetscreamer: yes, i think so. unless the 16 y.o. is a total dork |
| 18:11.06 | LordFrith | mwelsh: It's non-trivial, since basically you need to always provide a load to it. |
| 18:11.14 | jetscreamer | no my daughter isn't a total dork, so okie |
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| 18:11.19 | jetscreamer | muhahahaha |
| 18:11.25 | EdibleText | mwelsh, In a pinch you can jump the green wire to a ground (black) and use it to power things |
| 18:11.26 | mwelsh | LordFrith: I found a few articles... yea, i saw that with the 10 ohm sand bar |
| 18:11.39 | shingouz | jetscreamer: in that case i guess you may still have a working system in two weeks |
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| 18:11.50 | EdibleText | mwelsh, I use a paperclip |
| 18:11.53 | mixonic | resiak, yeah, all the mods are there, but no sd?# |
| 18:11.57 | qbwdp | anyone know where rsync builds directory tree? |
| 18:11.57 | shingouz | jetscreamer: you sure you want to give her root on the box though? ;) |
| 18:12.02 | mwelsh | EdibleText: that sounds safe |
| 18:12.21 | EdibleText | mwelsh, its not as if im workign with vacuum tubes |
| 18:12.22 | jetscreamer | shingouz: i'm upgrading dsl speed, going from static to dhcp, saving about 40 bucks a month, and am gonna let her fix her own computer when it breaks |
| 18:12.28 | shingouz | jetscreamer: she just might install some keylogger or something to spy on her dad... ;) |
| 18:12.30 | resiak | mixonic: *shrug* Have you checked dmesg? I've been having problems with ieee1394 lately. |
| 18:12.40 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 18:12.53 | mixonic | blehm |
| 18:12.57 | mixonic | damn you debian |
| 18:12.58 | mixonic | so close |
| 18:13.04 | jetscreamer | i even told her to use irc.freenode.net/#debian to find out how |
| 18:13.07 | mwelsh | cant PSU's deliver up to 10 amps? I dont really want to mess with that much current |
| 18:13.24 | mwelsh | i was going to try it with an old 145 watt psu |
| 18:13.29 | mixonic | Attached scsi disk sda at scsi13, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| 18:13.29 | mixonic | Attached scsi generic sg2 at scsi13, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0 |
| 18:13.33 | shingouz | jetscreamer: nice :) |
| 18:13.35 | mixonic | but no nodes |
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| 18:14.14 | jetscreamer | i don't think she'll bother, thinks i'll fix it for her... i've told her for a while now, and she has until the 8th |
| 18:14.16 | sparr_ | paulswm: any experience with swap on RAID0? |
| 18:14.29 | nashirak | Is there a way to tell what services are bound to what ports? |
| 18:14.33 | shingouz | jetscreamer: i guess we have to have advance warning when she shows up so we can lock the nastiest ones somewhere. including me that is |
| 18:14.43 | sphere | even when she does get here mwilson will tell her to rtfm :) |
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| 18:14.55 | shingouz | hehe |
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| 18:15.09 | jetscreamer | she thinks aim is the internet or something :/ |
| 18:15.15 | EdibleText | mwelsh, jumping green to black shorts the soft switch on the PSU |
| 18:15.18 | shingouz | she'll learn... |
| 18:15.26 | EdibleText | mwelsh, turning it on... |
| 18:15.40 | shingouz | jetscreamer: dont you worry, we are going to be our usual charming selves here |
| 18:15.44 | mwelsh | EdibleText, ahh, so it wont need a switch? |
| 18:15.51 | jetscreamer | cool.. muhahahha |
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| 18:16.02 | sameer | hi people |
| 18:16.02 | EdibleText | mwelsh, no but most have a hard witch on the back.. |
| 18:16.04 | shingouz | jetscreamer: larts and rtfm's and all |
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| 18:16.18 | jetscreamer | if she ever tries to figure it out |
| 18:16.37 | sameer | i tried to mount my 14 sarge cds as loopback devices .. but the mount program says no more loopback device left.. |
| 18:16.45 | shingouz | jetscreamer: she will. if you are going to hand her root on the box she will learn |
| 18:16.46 | sameer | i only could mount 8 cds |
| 18:16.59 | shingouz | sameer: linux has its limits |
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| 18:17.09 | jetscreamer | i believe you can set the # of loopback devices available when you compile the kernel, or load the module |
| 18:17.13 | resiak | sameer: Create more loopback devices? |
| 18:17.16 | jetscreamer | not positive |
| 18:17.23 | jor | sameer: modprobe the module with max_loop option |
| 18:17.24 | mwelsh | EdibleText: http://web2.murraystate.edu/andy.batts/ps/POWERSUPPLY.HTM have you seen this tutorial? |
| 18:17.34 | jor | sameer: see modinfo loop |
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| 18:17.59 | bcole | grr i hate kernels |
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| 18:18.15 | jetscreamer | kernels are cool and easy.. initrd is weird at first |
| 18:18.41 | shingouz | initrd is weird, period |
| 18:18.44 | bcole | not using initrd. |
| 18:18.58 | nashirak | Hey Guys, I have a service bound to a port (port 139) I need to know what process on my computer is bound to that port (no its not smdb).... Is there a way to tell what process is bound to that port? |
| 18:19.00 | shingouz | bcole: what happened? |
| 18:19.09 | bcole | cant find hda |
| 18:19.20 | bcole | kernel panic |
| 18:19.22 | jetscreamer | rpcinfo maybe |
| 18:19.28 | shingouz | bcole: you have the chipset and ide in the kernel statically? |
| 18:19.31 | jetscreamer | bcole: you forgot to compile some stuff in |
| 18:19.36 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 18:19.44 | bcole | shingouz: yeah i did that |
| 18:19.50 | jetscreamer | you missed something |
| 18:19.51 | EdibleText | mwelsh, cool.. glancing at the page I read switch=green.. he also warns about dell psu's I was going to mention that as well |
| 18:19.52 | bcole | and i obviously forgot something |
| 18:19.54 | shingouz | bcole: also having the root filesystem driver statically tends to help.... ;) |
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| 18:20.05 | bcole | thats in there too |
| 18:20.05 | sameer | jor: i recompiled my kernel and loop is built in .. |
| 18:20.15 | sameer | jor : so i can use modinfo i guess |
| 18:20.29 | jor | sameer: heh, then recompile again |
| 18:20.46 | jetscreamer | bcole: did you remove/comment out the initrd reference in the bootloader.conf? |
| 18:20.47 | BleSS | how identify a debian system? is there any file that has debian or anything? |
| 18:20.50 | shingouz | bcole: i have a strange feeling that one of the device drivers need to have isa in the kernel even if the box is pure pci |
| 18:21.04 | mwelsh | EdibleText: i think i've acquired an old gateway atx supply, so that should be pretty standard |
| 18:21.05 | shingouz | BleSS: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 18:21.16 | bcole | shingouz: yeah i have that feeling too |
| 18:21.20 | jetscreamer | bcole: and if lilo, did you rerun lilo |
| 18:21.20 | BleSS | shingouz, thx |
| 18:21.39 | bcole | i put isa support back in last compile but didnt work |
| 18:21.45 | jetscreamer | i take all the isa crap out btw |
| 18:22.01 | BleSS | shingouz, /etc/debian_ is always the same? |
| 18:22.02 | bcole | i think the isa is whats causing my problems like shingouz said |
| 18:22.14 | shingouz | jetscreamer: it is not like the isa crap makes the kernel a lot bigger |
| 18:22.17 | sameer | jor: after i recompile? |
| 18:22.19 | jetscreamer | yeah but did you dereference initrd in the bootloader |
| 18:22.28 | shingouz | BleSS: what do you mean? the contents change |
| 18:22.31 | jetscreamer | shingouz: i dont have any isa though |
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| 18:22.37 | TheZanke[Ubuntu] | how can i set up a mailserver and use it from another computer? |
| 18:22.38 | bcole | i cant seem to get i2c support out, anyone know what depends on it? |
| 18:22.40 | shingouz | jetscreamer: so? |
| 18:22.45 | jetscreamer | plug&play seems to want isa plug&play though |
| 18:22.58 | asg | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: /msg dpkg mail tutorial |
| 18:22.59 | shingouz | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: are you using ubuntu as your nick tells us? |
| 18:23.02 | BleSS | shingouz, the file name would be /etc/debian_3.0r1 or /etc/debian_3.0 ? |
| 18:23.14 | shingouz | BleSS: nope, debian_version |
| 18:23.20 | BleSS | ahh, ok |
| 18:23.22 | TheZanke[Ubuntu] | yes but they wont help me and it is based on debian |
| 18:23.28 | jetscreamer | shingouz: so i'm anal and took it out :) |
| 18:23.30 | shingouz | BleSS: that is why you have to cat it |
| 18:23.38 | shingouz | !based on debian |
| 18:23.39 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 18:23.40 | jetscreamer | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: you have the same problem here usually |
| 18:23.46 | jor | sameer: hmm, you might not need a recompile, could be that max_loop=XXX also works on the kernel boot prompt |
| 18:24.00 | jetscreamer | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: it's best not to be honest in this particular case |
| 18:24.21 | sameer | jor : u mean in grub |
| 18:24.28 | jor | sameer: yes |
| 18:24.39 | sameer | jor : ill try it jor thanx |
| 18:24.40 | TheZanke[Ubuntu] | jetscreamer, what do you mean? |
| 18:25.00 | jetscreamer | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: i mean if you didn't mention ubuntu you might have had a better chance in here getting help |
| 18:25.04 | jetscreamer | but alas |
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| 18:25.14 | TheZanke[Ubuntu] | people here dont like ubuntu? |
| 18:25.15 | bcole | jetscreamer: huh, i probobly did miss it, im doing a menuconfig atm, sorry |
| 18:25.22 | shingouz | bcole: some video for linux and video cards seem to ned i2c |
| 18:25.33 | jetscreamer | bcole: in the bootloaders config file |
| 18:25.38 | petemc | shingouz: dont they all need it? |
| 18:25.50 | shingouz | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: the thing is that ubuntu is not debian and has some odd configs in it |
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| 18:25.56 | jetscreamer | bcole: you can have initrd support in the kernel and not use it |
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| 18:26.07 | jetscreamer | bcole: but you can't in the bootloader |
| 18:26.08 | rage | Hey guys, I have some really weird stuff happening with one of my filesystems. I get ls: .: Cannot allocate memory |
| 18:26.14 | shingouz | petemc: yes if you want to use a framebuffer i think |
| 18:26.20 | bcole | what do you mean i cant in the bootloader? |
| 18:26.24 | asg | rage: do you have swap? what does free say |
| 18:26.35 | rage | one moment |
| 18:26.40 | jetscreamer | bcole: default mailserver in sarge is exim4: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config iirc |
| 18:26.40 | shingouz | bcole: initrd=/initrd.img has to be commented out in lilo.conf |
| 18:26.49 | jetscreamer | err TheZanke[Ubuntu] ^^^^^^\ |
| 18:27.00 | rage | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.01 | rage | Sememmon: 2076776 2026216 50560 0 1352 1736184 |
| 18:27.05 | jetscreamer | and there's a ref to initrd in /boot/grub/menu.lst iirc |
| 18:27.15 | asg | rage: paste the Swap: line |
| 18:27.19 | bcole | for that section it is, yes, for the pre-packaged kernel theres initrd lines |
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| 18:27.21 | rage | Swap: 1951856 0 1951856 |
| 18:27.33 | bcole | using grub btw |
| 18:27.37 | asg | rage: hmm, start check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log |
| 18:27.37 | shingouz | ah |
| 18:27.42 | codemarauder | hello |
| 18:27.42 | asg | s/check/checking/ |
| 18:27.43 | petemc | looks like abug |
| 18:27.52 | jetscreamer | me too |
| 18:27.57 | shingouz | !debug petemc |
| 18:28.02 | shingouz | hm.. |
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| 18:28.08 | jetscreamer | i got it to work once, was happy to return to lilo |
| 18:28.12 | rage | asg: only happens on one of my mount points /pub |
| 18:28.13 | petemc | debugging mode not supported |
| 18:28.18 | monster_taranto | helo, what happenned? |
| 18:28.19 | petemc | im a binary blob |
| 18:28.21 | mixonic | grub makes mouths happy |
| 18:28.26 | asg | rage: oh, is that a network filesystem? |
| 18:28.35 | jetscreamer | i thought you were a meat popsicle |
| 18:28.35 | mixonic | anyone know pmount and hal? how to make them play nice? |
| 18:28.36 | shingouz | petemc: as long as you do not coredump here |
| 18:28.39 | rage | asg: nope |
| 18:28.40 | rage | local |
| 18:28.42 | petemc | :) |
| 18:28.42 | jethro | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: it's just a question of being on topic or not. debian is on topic in #debian, ubuntu is not. on the other hand, debian answers to ubuntu problems will not always work since ubuntu is based on, and not the same as debian, so you'd better ask at the appropriate place |
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| 18:29.00 | rage | /dev/hda10 19G 14G 5.3G 72% /pub |
| 18:29.01 | asg | rage: hmmm, you might try using strace to see what is happening. |
| 18:29.05 | sparr_ | RAID5 for /home... good, bad, ugly? |
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| 18:29.18 | rage | strace? |
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| 18:29.31 | jetscreamer | TheZanke[Ubuntu]: install the exim4 docs, then info exim4 ... if the default mailserver is exim4 in ubuntu |
| 18:29.35 | shingouz | sparr_: depends on what use you want out of it. should be safe at least |
| 18:29.39 | [Elvis] | I get a segmentation fualt when using the cp command...any ideas.. |
| 18:29.57 | jetscreamer | !any idea |
| 18:29.57 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of herring, a little sauerkraut, and 5 or 6 rabid weasels. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few hours! |
| 18:30.09 | jethro | [Elvis]: quit using sid. install sarge, or just stop complaining |
| 18:30.32 | petemc | [Elvis]: could be bad ram |
| 18:30.32 | asg | rage: apt-get install strace. strace <process> |
| 18:30.32 | jetscreamer | i can't stand sarge, it's too old :) |
| 18:30.35 | sparr_ | shingouz: some redundancy, and better or equal performance. if i see a slowdown thats bad |
| 18:30.36 | monster_taranto | hello, guys no one answered my question? |
| 18:30.41 | shingouz | [Elvis]: listen to jethro, man |
| 18:30.48 | jethro | petemc: he mixed stable and unstable in his sources.list |
| 18:30.50 | jetscreamer | monster_taranto: all i saw was 'what happened' |
| 18:30.51 | shingouz | sparr_: get hardware raid :p |
| 18:30.52 | petemc | oh |
| 18:30.54 | EdibleText | [Elvis], you are down at the endo of lonely street, at Heartbreak Hotel |
| 18:30.56 | jethro | petemc: he pasted it earlier today |
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| 18:31.05 | [Elvis] | ok...how can I bring it back to sarge then jethro ? |
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| 18:31.14 | shingouz | [Elvis]: reinstall |
| 18:31.17 | jetscreamer | !downgrade |
| 18:31.17 | dpkg | downgrade is, like, not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 18:31.26 | jethro | [Elvis]: you don't downgrade. you install again. |
| 18:31.29 | jetscreamer | or |
| 18:31.36 | EdibleText | [ |
| 18:31.36 | jetscreamer | nm wont work |
| 18:31.40 | monster_taranto | i mean the disscussion of the channel : what is it about? |
| 18:31.59 | petemc | monster_taranto: debian, as the name implies |
| 18:32.00 | jetscreamer | you can change the sources list to etch and wait for it to catch up |
| 18:32.10 | jethro | !guidelines |
| 18:32.10 | dpkg | 1) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 2) Don't just repeat yourself; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 3) Read the FAQ and ask Google before asking us. 4) Reading technical documentation (man pages, info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill. Practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots. See <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood or a web site, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. |
| 18:32.26 | EdibleText | [Elvis], reinstall... thats why a seperate /home is useful |
| 18:32.29 | jethro | !topicsmite monster_taranto |
| 18:32.30 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon monster_taranto. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 18:32.46 | [Elvis] | unable to reinstall....won't be home for another 2 months |
| 18:32.46 | kingsley_ | Can firefox be configured to use a limited amount of virtual memory? |
| 18:32.49 | EdibleText | or /*/local |
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| 18:32.52 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: you can go pure sid |
| 18:32.59 | sparr_ | well, thats all the details. that leaves about 800GB free to just block off for storage. going to be creative with arrangement and linear/raid0 so ive got some fast chunks, some slow chunks, and various levels of loss if drives fail |
| 18:33.01 | furrywolf | is there any point in saying "no trolls or spam"? do you really think ANY troll or spammer is going to be stopped by that? lol |
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| 18:33.08 | [Elvis] | ok jetscreamer...how can I do that? |
| 18:33.14 | jetscreamer | !furrywolf++ |
| 18:33.24 | streuner_ | [Elvis]: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 18:33.25 | LordFrith | furrywolf: The ethical spammer will. |
| 18:33.39 | jethro | jetscreamer: when one has stable and unstable, and his system is fucked, do you really think it's wise to tell him go pure sid? |
| 18:33.46 | monster_taranto | as you must know i am new here? |
| 18:33.51 | monster_taranto | thats why |
| 18:33.52 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: just change anything that says stable or woody or sarge or testing to sid .. and comment out the security line.. then apt-get update && dselect upgrade |
| 18:34.03 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: telling people who didn't even know what sid is, they should use is - isnt very clever |
| 18:34.11 | jethro | jetscreamer: you support him |
| 18:34.12 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: it's that or reinstall |
| 18:34.28 | jetscreamer | jethro: he can reinstall now, or try it, then reinstall if it borks |
| 18:34.36 | jetscreamer | where's the downside? |
| 18:35.01 | jethro | jetscreamer: he already borked it mixing stable and unstable. he should just be running sarge, and leave sources.list alone |
| 18:35.02 | jetscreamer | and he said he couldn't reinstall now, so what are the options |
| 18:35.03 | Vladi | hi, i am trying to set the home page using netlogon.bat which is ran every time a user logs on. Where does firefox store its home page setting and does anyone know how i can change it from netlogon.bat? |
| 18:35.22 | jetscreamer | jethro: wouldn't that leave some sid stuff? |
| 18:35.24 | shingouz | [Elvis]: you do realize that the system may very well go kaputt when/if you go Sid on it? |
| 18:35.28 | whm | seemed a big upgrade on sid today |
| 18:35.39 | streuner_ | really? |
| 18:35.49 | jethro | jetscreamer: his packaging system was barely working earlier today |
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| 18:35.55 | [Elvis] | it's like jetscreamer said...what other option to I have? |
| 18:35.59 | petemc | if cp is segfaulting, im not sure how you could upgade, or do much of anything... |
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| 18:36.08 | [Elvis] | hmm packaging system is back up though |
| 18:36.09 | aim1159 | hi all |
| 18:36.09 | jethro | petemc: that's exactly my point |
| 18:36.28 | aim1159 | can someone tell me why http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/debian/all.html shows 7 bugs concerning the next release |
| 18:36.34 | streuner_ | [Elvis]: follow the suggestion from jethro and leave sources.list alone |
| 18:36.38 | streuner_ | [Elvis]: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 18:36.41 | aim1159 | and http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ 12 |
| 18:36.42 | aim1159 | ? |
| 18:36.50 | jetscreamer | jethro: so do you think maybe going pure sarge instead of sid is the way to go, short of reinstalling? |
| 18:37.12 | streuner_ | it is |
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| 18:37.24 | streuner_ | reinstall might be the only possibility |
| 18:37.29 | jetscreamer | streuner: you just told him to reinstall :) |
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| 18:37.33 | jethro | jetscreamer: what does "short of" reinstalling" mean there? sorry I ain't a native english speaker |
| 18:37.39 | shingouz | jetscreamer: even if you have to go from woody to sid you really should do the intermediate sarge there, make sure the system still works |
| 18:37.41 | jethro | jetscreamer: he HAS to reinstall |
| 18:37.42 | streuner_ | in order to get a _CLEAR_ system |
| 18:37.46 | jetscreamer | jethro: everything up to |
| 18:37.50 | [Elvis] | linux-router:/etc/apt# dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 18:37.50 | [Elvis] | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 18:37.52 | jethro | jetscreamer: then no, he has to |
| 18:37.55 | EdibleText | sounds like the dynamiclly linked libs are the wrong version |
| 18:38.04 | jetscreamer | but what about for the next month or so |
| 18:38.14 | bcole | compiling one last time or else im gonna say screw it |
| 18:38.19 | jethro | jetscreamer: come on it takes like an hour to install sarge |
| 18:38.21 | streuner_ | [Elvis]: /j #flood and show us your sources.list |
| 18:38.24 | jetscreamer | how long till you can reinstall, [Elvis] ? |
| 18:38.32 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 18:38.33 | [Elvis] | 3 months |
| 18:38.34 | [Elvis] | :P |
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| 18:38.53 | jethro | [Elvis]: then leave without this broken box for three month |
| 18:38.53 | shingouz | [Elvis]: does the system work now as it should or do you need something on it? |
| 18:39.02 | jetscreamer | s/leave/live/ |
| 18:39.08 | jethro | [Elvis]: and think about it next time you blindly mix stable and unstable |
| 18:39.19 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Hello |
| 18:39.19 | jethro | jetscreamer: thanks for correcting |
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| 18:39.38 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I need some help anyone gott a miniute? |
| 18:39.39 | jetscreamer | jethro: i never would have guessed you weren't a native english speaker |
| 18:39.41 | streuner_ | !nickometer TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 18:39.41 | dpkg | 'TMD-TheIOTOWER' is 99.9191% lame, streuner_ |
| 18:39.43 | [Elvis] | well..it can't get more damaged then it allready is.. |
| 18:39.46 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: just ask... |
| 18:40.05 | jethro | jetscreamer: well I m french, born in france, always lived here |
| 18:40.07 | slept | what do I need to add to the source if I want to make a deb with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 18:40.11 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have A Digital Hinote Ultra 2 running Debian |
| 18:40.15 | jethro | jetscreamer: I take it as a compliment :) |
| 18:40.18 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: yeah that's my thoughts, but i'm wild n' krazee guy |
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| 18:40.26 | jetscreamer | jethro: it was meant as one |
| 18:40.27 | stew | slept: /msg dpkg maint-guide |
| 18:40.28 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | but every time I use the mouse on the laptop It locks up |
| 18:40.38 | slept | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.42 | jethro | jetscreamer: thank you |
| 18:41.00 | jetscreamer | ppl know i'm not a native spanish speaker :/ |
| 18:41.05 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ok, just lose the enters there... usb or ps/2 mouse? |
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| 18:41.37 | fwest | is there a gui wiki editor so i can work off line? |
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| 18:41.52 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok yeah that works but Id like to use the laptop mouse |
| 18:41.55 | slept | stew, thanks |
| 18:42.09 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: what type of mouse is it? |
| 18:42.17 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | trackball |
| 18:42.32 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ps/2 i guess then. what kernel? |
| 18:42.39 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | 2.2.20 |
| 18:42.44 | jetscreamer | LOL |
| 18:42.48 | jetscreamer | !real kernel |
| 18:42.48 | dpkg | real kernel is probably The Debian install kernels are meant for just that: installing. If you want things like wide module support and netfilter, install a proper kernel. 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386' will see you through, if you have no idea. First though, do apt-cache search kernel-image- . Woody install kernels have several known vulnerabilities, including local roots & remote DoSes |
| 18:42.51 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: better install a real kernel |
| 18:42.51 | concept10 | anyone have beagle running? |
| 18:42.52 | paulswm | Hahaha |
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| 18:43.17 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | thers a fix in 2.2.19 but I cant get it to install |
| 18:43.21 | shingouz | concept10: i have a rottweiler sleeping... |
| 18:43.41 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | its oly got a 120 mhz intel and 48 megs of ram |
| 18:43.43 | [Elvis] | ok is there anyway to fix the cp function then? |
| 18:43.43 | jetscreamer | TMD-TheIOTOWER: get a 2.4 kernel eh.. and you should be running sarge |
| 18:43.59 | paulswm | Install 2.4 or 2.6 and join the 21st century |
| 18:44.03 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | it doesn;t have a cd rom jsut a floppy |
| 18:44.04 | bcole | cp can break? |
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| 18:44.09 | concept10 | shingouz: lazy dogg |
| 18:44.13 | rororo | TMD-TheIOTOWER: 2.4 won't run slower than 2.2 |
| 18:44.13 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: probably a symptom of why you can't downgrade, but i know nothing |
| 18:44.13 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: i have a 2.6.11.11 on a P1-120 with 80M of ram. runs beautifully |
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| 18:44.28 | shingouz | concept10: i said rottweiler == lazy |
| 18:44.41 | jethro | [Elvis]: we told you, the fix is to install sarge, now move on |
| 18:44.43 | [Elvis] | bcole I think I've just proved it can |
| 18:44.49 | jetscreamer | !depends cp |
| 18:44.52 | paulswm | I/m running 2.6 on a P133-MMX with 32 MB of ram, runs fine there too |
| 18:44.58 | [Elvis] | jethro...I said 3 times I can't reach my box |
| 18:45.16 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how do i get a newer versio of the kernel and install it? |
| 18:45.24 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: apt-get install |
| 18:45.25 | concept10 | shingouz: seriously, do you know if beagle and monodevelop is working in debian? |
| 18:45.28 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: cp isn't a package... |
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| 18:45.48 | paulswm | apt-cache search kernel-image and the apt-get install the one you want. |
| 18:45.49 | shingouz | concept10: sorry, man. i just had to yank your chain a bit, the beagle just sounded too nice to miss |
| 18:45.53 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: that will show only depends of packages |
| 18:46.10 | streuner_ | jetscreamer: NOT every single command... |
| 18:46.18 | [Elvis] | I'll just recompile fileutils |
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| 18:46.29 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: when was the last time you did a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, btw? |
| 18:46.51 | jethro | [Elvis]: then just wait until you can. find another box. compiling won't lead you anywhere since it'll break too at some point |
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| 18:47.00 | pseudoslacker | could someone tell me which CD has the kernel sources on it |
| 18:47.01 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | 10 min ago |
| 18:47.02 | streuner_ | [Elvis]: why in hell do you want recompile fileutils? |
| 18:47.17 | jetscreamer | !depends coreutils |
| 18:47.19 | dpkg | coreutils: pre-depends on libacl1 (>= 2.2.11-1), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4) |
| 18:47.22 | lamp__ | i have installed cupsys and configure it but when i try to print a test page a get nothing |
| 18:47.26 | streuner_ | !d-i pseudoslacker |
| 18:47.26 | dpkg | pseudoslacker, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 18:47.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | i see the kernels now but how do I know which one to install |
| 18:47.35 | jethro | [Elvis]: what you could do is upload statically compiled tools on the box, and try to fix with them. but I highly doubt someone is going to handhold you during the process |
| 18:47.36 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ok. do what paulswm told you then, should get a new kernel on it before screwing around with the mouse |
| 18:47.59 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: do you have a working i-net connection in debian? |
| 18:47.59 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: the latest for a P1 |
| 18:48.04 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: ahh, install busybox or some such i think would be along the lines of what jethro just said |
| 18:48.27 | pseudoslacker | streuner_: no thats the problem |
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| 18:48.45 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how do I list them so that I can hit enter to view a little at a time? |
| 18:48.49 | [Elvis] | I just need to fix that fucking cp function |
| 18:48.58 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: ok, just download the kernel-sources for you kernel via pdo |
| 18:49.01 | streuner_ | !pdo |
| 18:49.01 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. |
| 18:49.19 | bcole | TMD-TheIOTOWER append " | less" to the end of the command |
| 18:49.38 | jetscreamer | but i'd rather get shocked |
| 18:49.38 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: shift pgup/pgdn works nicely in the console |
| 18:49.38 | pseudoslacker | i just wanted to get a whole cd of stuff instead of just dling the kernel package and burning it to cd |
| 18:49.39 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | thanks |
| 18:49.51 | pseudoslacker | but thank you |
| 18:50.12 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: what kind of modem do you have? |
| 18:50.20 | jethro | jetscreamer: he has sid's libc6 already |
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| 18:50.38 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 18:50.41 | pseudoslacker | streuner_: I came over here to use the dsl |
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| 18:51.11 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: so whats that HARD to answer that question? |
| 18:51.30 | pseudoslacker | I just find it amazing that its so HARD to figure out what files are on what cd |
| 18:51.39 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | all they have is celron PI kernels |
| 18:51.50 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: well, nobody knows |
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| 18:52.07 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: because sarge isn't released yet... |
| 18:52.15 | rage | Now hush little Debian box dont you cry :-/ |
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| 18:53.09 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: so again, what kind of problem do you have, tell us more details |
| 18:53.32 | BleSS | how install a package? dpkg -i [package] ? |
| 18:53.42 | streuner_ | apt-get install package |
| 18:53.56 | streuner_ | man apt-get, man dpkg |
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| 18:54.43 | pseudoslacker | oh its ok you helped me out thanks |
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| 18:54.55 | rage | BleSS: dpkg -i filename.deb will work but I highly recommend you man apt-get and edit /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get install is very useful for installing packages. |
| 18:55.08 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you should be able to find a 586 kernel there. if not, go for the 386 |
| 18:55.09 | Helio | hello |
| 18:55.11 | BleSS | ok, thx |
| 18:55.17 | pseudoslacker | i have to dload with this windows box burn to cd and install it on the powermac that has debian |
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| 18:55.26 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | thanks shin yes |
| 18:55.35 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | there is a 586 kernel |
| 18:55.36 | sparr_ | is there any practical difference in primary and logical partitions? |
| 18:55.45 | Powered | Hey.I am IRCop on my server.If I whois myself it show IRCop,But when some other user whois me they dont see it.Why ? |
| 18:55.47 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: that is the one then |
| 18:55.50 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | are the fixes for this problem in those kernels |
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| 18:56.00 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: /msg dpkg nicktab ;) |
| 18:56.16 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: did you use d-i? |
| 18:56.24 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: not sure but it sure should help. the kernel you have right now is just an install kernel |
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| 18:56.59 | pseudoslacker | i used jigdo to make cd images and installed with floppys and a cd |
| 18:57.17 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 18:57.20 | Helio | # Número de runlevel por defecto |
| 18:57.21 | Helio | id:2:initdefault: |
| 18:57.21 | Helio | # Script que se ejecuta siempre en cada inicio, |
| 18:57.21 | Helio | # independientemente del runlevel |
| 18:57.21 | Helio | si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS # (Debian y similares) |
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| 18:57.57 | pseudoslacker | streuner_: I don't have it near me I walked over here to use internet |
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| 18:58.21 | rage | Hey guys, I'm trying unmount this troublsom partition and remount it, however "umount: /pub: device is busy" :-/ "fuser /pub/" returns nothing |
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| 18:58.37 | pseudoslacker | streuner_: I just assumed the kernel sources would be on the first cd but I was wrong |
| 18:58.46 | bcole | rage: umount -f? |
| 18:58.51 | rage | eesh :-S |
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| 18:59.14 | rage | its not nfs of course |
| 18:59.17 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: sure, its on the third CD in woody AFAIK, but don't ask which CD in sarge |
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| 18:59.38 | streuner_ | s/AFAIK/IIRC/ |
| 18:59.40 | pseudoslacker | streuner_: I am using woody thank you!! |
| 18:59.54 | streuner_ | !d-i pseudoslacker |
| 18:59.54 | dpkg | pseudoslacker, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 19:00.08 | pseudoslacker | ya i saw that already :/ |
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| 19:00.25 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | You know you guys are a little more freindlier then My Linux professor siad you would be |
| 19:00.28 | streuner_ | pseudoslacker: as i told you before, get d-i and download the packages you need by hand |
| 19:00.44 | pseudoslacker | I'd rather use jigdo like I have been |
| 19:00.47 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: hehehe... we have had our caffeine ;) |
| 19:00.53 | pseudoslacker | it works fine |
| 19:01.05 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: i can lart you if it makes you feel more comfortable? ;) |
| 19:01.07 | jethro | TMD-TheIOTOWER: did your linux teacher talk about #debian? |
| 19:01.09 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | lmfao thats what he's always saying |
| 19:01.14 | paulswm | TMD-TheIOTOWER: That can change if you like :P |
| 19:01.17 | rage | okay, umount -f didnt work :-S |
| 19:01.18 | sparr_ | here goes nothing, installing mdadm |
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| 19:01.27 | CyzarX | anYone know how to dl the mail using thunderbird from exchange server? :) |
| 19:01.29 | shingouz | don't scare him, guys :) |
| 19:01.35 | streuner_ | *PLONK* |
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| 19:01.46 | jethro | :fruitsmite TMD-TheIOTOWER |
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| 19:01.50 | jethro | gah |
| 19:01.52 | [Elvis] | ok jethro...since I don't have the ability to reinstall..how can I see all packages installed at the moment? |
| 19:01.54 | paulswm | TMD-TheIOTOWER: Tell your professor that #debian said he was all fart and no shit :P |
| 19:01.54 | Powered | Hey.I am IRCop on my server.If I whois myself it show IRCop,But when some other user whois me they dont see it.Why ? |
| 19:01.59 | jethro | I suffering reversed paulswm syndrom |
| 19:02.02 | shingouz | paulswm: :D |
| 19:02.14 | jethro | [Elvis]: man dpkg |
| 19:02.25 | pseudoslacker | you're trying to be condesending but I already told you my debian box doesnt have internet |
| 19:02.29 | jethro | [Elvis]: I m really not willing to help you so please ask the channel, not me |
| 19:02.36 | paulswm | shingouz: I just love that expression, I wish I could use it in meetings :> |
| 19:02.48 | jethro | !fruitsmite TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 19:02.50 | [Elvis] | ok jehtro |
| 19:03.00 | shingouz | paulswm: but is there some reason why you cannot? just use it |
| 19:03.15 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: see? some of us have not had their caffeine yet |
| 19:03.22 | paulswm | shingouz: One small reason: I wish to keep my present job :) |
| 19:03.23 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Lol |
| 19:03.35 | shingouz | paulswm: hmm.. tha tis a pretty good excuse |
| 19:03.43 | paulswm | !singlishsmite TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 19:03.44 | dpkg | TMD-TheIOTOWER: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 19:04.02 | paulswm | :D |
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| 19:04.30 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have a no more to say |
| 19:04.52 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: the biggest thing on this channel is really to ask smart questions and do some homework too. otherwise someone is going to use a big lart |
| 19:05.02 | paulswm | TMD-TheIOTOWER: That'll teach you to call us nice :P |
| 19:05.08 | shingouz | hehe |
| 19:05.09 | jethro | !tell TMD-TheIOTOWER -about guidelines |
| 19:05.15 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me how to find out which packages are installed? |
| 19:05.17 | sparr_ | is there a good (or not) front end for mdadm? doesnt have to be a gui |
| 19:05.26 | bcole | if i see anymore CCs and LDs today im gonna go crazy |
| 19:05.33 | shingouz | [Elvis]: dpkg --get-selections |
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| 19:05.48 | paulswm | [Elvis]: or dpkg -l |
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| 19:06.01 | jethro | [Elvis]: or man dpkg for full details as told earlier |
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| 19:06.09 | paulswm | heh |
| 19:06.19 | jethro | !handhold [Elvis] |
| 19:06.21 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I looked for 3 days before I decided to brave the channel |
| 19:06.22 | greycat | What in the bloody hell is *wrong* with people? "Remote host said: 550-139.137.100.1 blocked by blacklist.sequoia.ops.asp.att.net 550 Blocked for abuse. Please contact the administrator of your ISP or sending mail service." .... how the hell do I check with the people who RUN this blacklist? |
| 19:06.31 | paulswm | You think this really is Elvis? |
| 19:06.38 | tarzeau | greycat: heh |
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| 19:06.43 | tarzeau | it's weekend :) |
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| 19:06.52 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: hehe.. just look what happened to [Elvis] a few lines up and you see why we have a reputation |
| 19:07.02 | greycat | Fri, Jun 3, 2005 03:07:03 PM |
| 19:07.32 | shingouz | tarzeau: but not sunday yet |
| 19:07.32 | sparr_ | greycat: try dnsstuff.com's blacklist checker, just put in the ip of your mail server |
| 19:07.32 | sparr_ | greycat: ive never seen it fail |
| 19:07.32 | paulswm | shingouz: it's premasunday. |
| 19:07.32 | hackeron | is it wise to use the same block size and chunk size when setting up a software raid, and if not, why? |
| 19:07.32 | shingouz | and don't i know it |
| 19:07.32 | paulswm | permasunday I mean |
| 19:07.47 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | well lets see if the wsidom of the fold was geniunely corrrect |
| 19:07.57 | tarzeau | greycat: i've had other dudes here with weekend-pre-ejaculation |
| 19:07.57 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | logining in to root |
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| 19:08.11 | greycat | NOTE: JavaScript is required for this page. |
| 19:08.13 | greycat | FUCKERS. |
| 19:08.20 | streuner_ | haha |
| 19:08.24 | streuner_ | true |
| 19:08.26 | jethro | greycat: blame the overpaid underbrained morons and tell them about greylisting in favor of rbls :p |
| 19:08.26 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: once the kernel is up and running, lets take a look at the mouse, shall we |
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| 19:08.44 | Helio | hello |
| 19:08.58 | shingouz | ..and 800 people say hello... |
| 19:09.02 | greycat | jethro: tell *WHOM*??? |
| 19:09.11 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok sending the kill signal to everything and rebooting to ensure changes become effective |
| 19:09.12 | paulswm | crap, shingouz beat me to it |
| 19:09.12 | xtension | the overpaid underbrained morons ... mmm i like taht |
| 19:09.14 | greycat | jethro: that's the *whole fucking problem*! There's no contact info for this blacklist! |
| 19:09.19 | shingouz | bwahaha :) |
| 19:09.35 | greycat | there's no way for me to find out why I'm blacklisted, or to submit my IP to be rechecked, or *anything* |
| 19:09.36 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you do not need th ekill, just a shutdown -r now |
| 19:09.42 | greycat | blacklist.sequoia.ops.asp.att.net doesn't even fucking RESOLVE. |
| 19:09.46 | jethro | greycat: tell the owner of the MTA who sent the message not to use blacklist. also tell him to spread these words. greylisting is what they want :) |
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| 19:10.03 | greycat | jethro: I'm the sending MTA. You mean tell the recipient? |
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| 19:10.07 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | you know linux is small and fast and it is always there when you need it |
| 19:10.10 | jethro | greycat: honestly I don't know who you should report to, I m just pointing out the limitations of blacklists. |
| 19:10.21 | jethro | greycat: yes, the one you got the error message from |
| 19:10.25 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | well It fried myu system |
| 19:10.29 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: and doze is huge and slow and never works? |
| 19:10.38 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: fried? how? |
| 19:10.43 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | it wont boot jsut panic |
| 19:10.53 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: no rootfs? |
| 19:11.02 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | unable tomount root fs on 3:01 |
| 19:11.04 | xtension | buy more RAM ? |
| 19:11.07 | jethro | greycat: most ISPs mix static and dynamic clients in their IP ranges, and thus, most ranges they have get blacklisted, and only their MTA is allowed |
| 19:11.13 | xtension | buy more disk ? |
| 19:11.14 | EdibleText | TMD-TheIOTOWER, wheres yerr root? |
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| 19:11.31 | jethro | s/MTA is/MTAs are/ |
| 19:11.34 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: did you take heed of the warnings when installing the kernel? things about initrd and rerun lilo? |
| 19:11.36 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | in the MBR |
| 19:11.50 | greycat | sparr_: dnsstuff.com doesn't show me listed in any of the blacklists, but does have a red row for "no PTR record" |
| 19:11.51 | EdibleText | TMD-TheIOTOWER, on which partition is your root? |
| 19:11.53 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | i had it install intrd |
| 19:11.58 | greycat | I can't do anything about the missing PTR. |
| 19:12.00 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Primary |
| 19:12.10 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Linux |
| 19:12.14 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: partition.. /dev/hda1 or sometihng |
| 19:12.17 | jethro | greycat: that's another thing morons like to implement sadly .. |
| 19:12.23 | Powered | Hey.I am IRCop on my server.If I whois myself it show IRCop,But when some other user whois me they dont see it.Why ? |
| 19:12.29 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: lilo on the box? or grub? |
| 19:12.36 | sparr_ | greycat: hmm, thats an odd thing to see considering the message you got from the smtp server... should probably fix it anyways |
| 19:12.42 | xtension | TMD-TheIOTOWER get ur boot cd and rerun lilo |
| 19:12.47 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | lilo |
| 19:13.08 | jethro | greycat: use your ISP's MTA as a relay |
| 19:13.14 | greycat | "sequoia" isn't listed on the list of blacklists I got from dnsstuff.com |
| 19:13.19 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | have to reinstall |
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| 19:13.31 | greycat | jethro: this is at *work*. we don't have no stinkin' ISP. |
| 19:13.33 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: boot the old kernel by hitting left shift when the LILO shows, then go into the system and rerun lilo |
| 19:13.37 | greycat | not in the sense you meant, anyway. |
| 19:13.49 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: no reinstall needed unless you really want to do that |
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| 19:13.56 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok |
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| 19:14.12 | jethro | greycat: alright , then you don't have a lot of options |
| 19:14.31 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: or you can use your bootcd and just point the kernel to roo=/dev/hda<whateverpartition> your root is on |
| 19:14.31 | jethro | greycat: the PTR thing is worrying, since many morons require it on their MTAs |
| 19:14.34 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok back up and running |
| 19:14.40 | xtension | is it possible my isp might block mails i send ? or dont they do such a thing ? |
| 19:14.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Now I need your Help |
| 19:14.50 | jethro | xtension: just try it |
| 19:15.02 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Ok so I need to install the intrd |
| 19:15.11 | xtension | jethro guess why i ask ? |
| 19:15.18 | EdibleText | TMD-TheIOTOWER, though if you want to become comfortable with the install process I suggest reinstalling as much as possible. Until you can do blindfolded and drunk |
| 19:15.30 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | LOL |
| 19:15.32 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have |
| 19:15.33 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: in lilo.conf you need initrd=/initrd.img uncommented, save and rerun lilo, boot |
| 19:15.39 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I have installed it 24 times |
| 19:15.41 | xtension | TMD-TheIOTOWER he s right too |
| 19:15.43 | EdibleText | hhe |
| 19:15.45 | sparr_ | How do I make the /dev/md* devices for software RAID? I have loaded the md module |
| 19:15.46 | jethro | xtension: because you either can't try, or interpret your results? |
| 19:15.48 | Powered | Hey.I am IRCop on my server.If I whois myself it show IRCop,But when some other user whois me they dont see it.Why ? |
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| 19:15.58 | xtension | jethro think again |
| 19:15.59 | shingouz | Powered: stop repeating |
| 19:16.02 | DocTrax | hi all |
| 19:16.06 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | so do I use Vi to edit the lilio.conf |
| 19:16.15 | Powered | shingouz: Tell me then what the problem is ? |
| 19:16.20 | greycat | TMD-TheIOTOWER: whatever editor you know and love. |
| 19:16.22 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: vi if you like, any editor will do |
| 19:16.26 | EdibleText | TMD-TheIOTOWER, sure if thats your bag |
| 19:16.27 | jethro | !vaguenesssmite xtension |
| 19:16.31 | shingouz | Powered: how the hell should i know |
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| 19:16.41 | Powered | shingouz: Ok |
| 19:16.42 | Powered | shingouz: ... |
| 19:17.20 | shingouz | Powered: maybe if you told us what the ircd is... doing a nice fast rtfm helps too from time to time you know |
| 19:17.21 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | so can I edit it from the gui |
| 19:17.31 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: whatever sinks your boat |
| 19:17.37 | shingouz | uh... floats ;) |
| 19:17.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | or is it easier from the console |
| 19:17.58 | xtension | TMD-TheIOTOWER no use the gui |
| 19:18.04 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok |
| 19:18.14 | shingouz | xtension: no, use doze :p |
| 19:18.31 | xtension | shingouz sssh |
| 19:18.52 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | So does anyone know why the Penguin? |
| 19:18.52 | shingouz | xtension: ok, you have my permission to use OS/2 |
| 19:19.02 | xtension | thanks shingouz |
| 19:19.16 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: Tux roxx0rz. isnt that reason enough? |
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| 19:19.50 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | PRogrammers have a sense of purpose and are often deep thinkers |
| 19:20.04 | xtension | thanks TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 19:20.07 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | do you know what the penguin is a symbol of? |
| 19:20.09 | EdibleText | TMD-TheIOTOWER, its sortof a joke. The humour is that he is not a menecing serious corporate logo |
| 19:20.18 | xtension | TMD-TheIOTOWER linux |
| 19:20.22 | EdibleText | but he pwnz anyway |
| 19:20.24 | xtension | TMD-TheIOTOWER and the south pole |
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| 19:20.29 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | other then linux |
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| 19:21.18 | xtension | TMD-TheIOTOWER a waiter |
| 19:22.04 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | The penguin reflects the survivalist the one who can survive the drought of winter and will search for its sustenence untill it is near death |
| 19:22.13 | mixonic | um |
| 19:22.15 | Powered | Hey.I am IRCop on my server.If I whois myself it show IRCop,But when some other user whois me they dont see it.Why ? |
| 19:22.18 | mixonic | the penguin is cute |
| 19:22.24 | jethro | !tell Powered -about repeat |
| 19:22.34 | EdibleText | and enjoys herring |
| 19:22.36 | karsten | xtension: You mean gvim? |
| 19:22.45 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | of all the animals in the north pole it is the only creature that is able to choose to hibernate or not |
| 19:22.49 | ptlis | TMD-TheIOTOWER: He was chosen because he was non-confrontational and 'cuddly' I believe. |
| 19:22.51 | karsten | TMD-TheIOTOWER: No, the penguin is about being fat and randy and loving herring. |
| 19:23.09 | EdibleText | it's |
| 19:23.11 | mixonic | um |
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| 19:23.25 | mixonic | it the only that can choose, so it stands for everything being done by hand? |
| 19:23.30 | mixonic | *its |
| 19:23.35 | karsten | ptlis: Non-confrontational? After Linus was savagely *attacked* by one? |
| 19:23.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Oh by the way is that file in the etc dir |
| 19:23.53 | DocTrax | Powered: there is maybe a usermode set that causes the hiding of your ircop status |
| 19:23.54 | shingouz | Powered: as i said before, the docs on the ircd usually have the answer to your question. all ircd's have different options and configs so it is up to you to do the rtfm this time unless you can tell us what the ircd is. if we know what it is, someone *might* be able to help |
| 19:24.02 | karsten | ptlis: I've seen the birds too, at the Australian National Zoo (or whatever it's called) in Canberra. |
| 19:24.08 | EdibleText | there are also 16 species of penguins. and 16 is a good number |
| 19:24.12 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: /etc/lilo.conf |
| 19:24.18 | Powered | shingouz: I maybe not fund it ? |
| 19:24.28 | karsten | EdibleText: Yes, but 32 would be better, and the new standard is 64. |
| 19:24.29 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | thats right 16 leads to 7 which is number of perfect man |
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| 19:24.32 | xtension | http://pastebin.ca/13300 << thats my penguin |
| 19:24.45 | xtension | its ansi colored |
| 19:24.51 | greycat | TMD-TheIOTOWER: man lilo.conf |
| 19:24.56 | sparr_ | how can i un-create a RAID device that i just created with mdadm? |
| 19:25.42 | zorton | I can't seem to find documentation on how to create a kernel-patch package, could someone point me in the right direction? |
| 19:25.49 | shingouz | Powered: so we need to be psychic and figure out what you run in the first place? damn, i must have left my tinfoil hat on because i cannot read your mind |
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| 19:26.58 | mixonic | yeah! |
| 19:27.07 | Powered | shingouz ? |
| 19:27.14 | mixonic | a psychic service for IT consulting |
| 19:27.32 | mixonic | you can conjur up the spirit of the last sys-admin |
| 19:27.33 | shingouz | Powered: how the hell do you think we can help you when you do not tell what you run |
| 19:27.35 | xtension | mixonic referring to this channel ? |
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| 19:27.45 | shingouz | xtension: to my comment |
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| 19:28.34 | Powered | shingouz: I run Dancer-Ircd |
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| 19:29.11 | shingouz | Powered: sorry, i do not = i have no clue on how to make it work |
| 19:29.24 | Powered | shingouz: Ok. |
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| 19:29.29 | Powered | shingouz: Np. |
| 19:29.32 | Powered | shingouz: Hehehehe. :) |
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| 19:30.01 | shingouz | looks like i need more caffeine and a smoke |
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| 19:32.42 | gvandora | I'm trying to build linux-wlan-ng and its modules.. I have a stock kernel. How do I obtain the kernel tree for debian 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 19:32.46 | astronut | where are the hints for sarge? |
| 19:33.06 | knopper | Anyone familiar with the update-menu scheme of KDE/Debian and could tell me how to avoid the "Debian" submenu, and sort all menu entries into the "normal" KDE menus? (KDE 3.4.1, apparently something changed there from 3.4.1, at least in the debian version on alioth). |
| 19:33.19 | xtension | gvandora apt-get it |
| 19:33.21 | astronut | knopper: #debian-kde perhaps? |
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| 19:33.38 | knopper | astronut: Ah, goot hint, thanks. |
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| 19:33.53 | astronut | where are the hints for sarge stored? ftp-master or? |
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| 19:34.56 | Groks | any idea, how to create a dummy node lika hda hdb at /dev ? |
| 19:34.57 | [Elvis] | when you let dpkg purge how can you make it remove directories....even when they're not empty |
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| 19:35.14 | astronut | [Elvis]: just hand purge is easier IMHO |
| 19:35.20 | xtension | Groks is it usefull ? |
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| 19:35.51 | Groks | my nodes are from hda to hdh --- but I need hdi too |
| 19:36.07 | xtension | Groks what makes yuo think that ? |
| 19:36.08 | gvandora | I figured apt-get ... how would I specify the package.. |
| 19:36.22 | astronut | gvandora: apt-get install <package name> |
| 19:36.24 | shingouz | air pollution time for me. brb |
| 19:36.40 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Ok where do I place the text in the lilo.conf file? |
| 19:36.40 | Groks | 15 Hdds Xtension ?` |
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| 19:36.57 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: just below the kernel stanza, the one you are going to boot |
| 19:37.08 | shingouz | smoke break for me |
| 19:37.10 | gvandora | astronut: I got that... I'm not sure what the package name for the kernel tree is.... I'm looking at packages.debian.com and I' can't figure ou the right package |
| 19:37.10 | xtension | Groks MAKEDEV |
| 19:37.24 | astronut | kernel-source-version# |
| 19:37.25 | Groks | I love you :-) |
| 19:37.32 | astronut | gvandora: apt-cache search kernel will also help |
| 19:37.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | where it says The Linux Kernel Documentation Directory? |
| 19:37.38 | pmitros | How will security for Woody be handled once Sarge ships? |
| 19:37.49 | xtension | Groks np |
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| 19:38.19 | Luisita | kk |
| 19:38.20 | streuner_ | pmitros: woody is history then... |
| 19:38.21 | xtension | ssssh |
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| 19:38.33 | Luisita | ll |
| 19:38.36 | Groks | xtension it works, thank you very much |
| 19:38.52 | sparr_ | how can i restart a RAID array that has been "mdadm --stop"ed? |
| 19:38.53 | xtension | Groks enjoy it |
| 19:38.59 | pmitros | streuner: Really? Potato had a year of updates after Woody shipped... |
| 19:39.00 | xtension | Groks all of 15 them |
| 19:39.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | there is no Kernel Source image |
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| 19:39.25 | streuner_ | pmitros: well, ask in a ML then (debian-security or such) |
| 19:39.33 | smo_ | hi |
| 19:39.35 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | theres image=/vmlinuz |
| 19:39.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | .old |
| 19:39.54 | pmitros | streuner: I probably will... Just wanted to check if anyone knew off-hand. |
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| 19:41.47 | pmitros | And does Woody->Sarge migration have any known problems/issues/catches to be aware of? |
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| 19:42.29 | [Elvis] | how can you dpkg --purge so it also takes all dependencies with it? |
| 19:42.35 | streuner_ | !upgrade test |
| 19:42.35 | dpkg | upgrade tests is <reply> Upgrade Tests. Steve Langasek (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00010.html) called for upgrade testers. It is recommended to read the release notes before upgrading, and in particular Chapter 4, "Upgrades from previous releases". Andreas Barth has prepared an upgrade report template to help when reporting problems with the upgrades (http://release.debian.org/upgrade-repor |
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| 19:42.54 | pmitros | Thanks. |
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| 19:43.51 | TNKS | question: How do you tell if a system is using the HPET timer? |
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| 19:44.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | can anyone tell me where I should place the text for initrd=/ in the lilo.conf file |
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| 19:44.47 | streuner_ | TMD-TheIOTOWER: man lilo.conf |
| 19:44.52 | reed | Sarge target release date is my birthday (6/6). That would be a splendid present! |
| 19:44.57 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok reading now |
| 19:45.08 | [Elvis] | how can you dpkg --purge and also remove all dependencies |
| 19:45.08 | [Elvis] | ? |
| 19:45.12 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, after image=/... |
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| 19:45.55 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok thanks giupy |
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| 19:46.14 | xRDNx | hi all |
| 19:46.15 | xRDNx | xcdroast says i must install ProDVD support to be able to burn DVDs.. but i cant find this "ProDVD" to install (GNU/Debian Sarge user) |
| 19:46.41 | Helio | hola |
| 19:46.50 | giupy | ProDVD ?? |
| 19:46.53 | gvdkamp_ | whois gvdkam |
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| 19:46.55 | greycat | it's non-free. |
| 19:47.03 | diegonavarro | hello. |
| 19:47.03 | greycat | and not packaged. |
| 19:47.09 | gvdkamp_ | !whois gvdkamp |
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| 19:47.20 | giupy | xRDNx, so try dvd+w-tools |
| 19:47.21 | LoneTech | xRDNx: no, use growisofs in the dvd+rw-tools package. |
| 19:47.23 | diegonavarro | I'm looking for a Linux distribution to use an old pentium as a router. |
| 19:47.24 | sparr_ | im getting a warning from mdadm, im creating a redundant array. i have four partitions, i want the data to be quadruply redundant (40GB used to store 10GB of data). is this correct? "mdadm -Cv /dev/md5 -l1 -n1 -x3 /dev/hda4 /dev/hdc4 /dev/sda4 /dev/sdb4" gives me "mdadm: '1' is an unusual number of drives for an array...yadda yadda" |
| 19:47.37 | xRDNx | thanks, ill check it out. |
| 19:47.45 | nite613 | LoneTech: Is there an alternative to growisofs for multi-session? |
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| 19:47.54 | diegonavarro | I'll need somewhat detailed instructions, as I have Linux desktop experience but never had a "real" router, let alone a Linux-on-old-PC one. |
| 19:47.59 | nite613 | Ihave this problem where is fails after a few sessions, generally when the disk gets about half full |
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| 19:48.16 | streuner_ | pmitros: /msg dpkg upgrade tests |
| 19:48.18 | diegonavarro | any suggestions? |
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| 19:48.30 | streuner_ | dpkg, forget upgrade test |
| 19:48.30 | dpkg | i forgot upgrade test, streuner_ |
| 19:48.34 | diegonavarro | I have a cd-rom drive there, and don't need it to fit in a floppy |
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| 19:49.04 | paulswm | diegonavarro: You can use sarge, I'm running sarge on a P133-MMX with 32 MB memory and a 2GB disk |
| 19:49.05 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | what was the syntax agian? initrd=/initrd.image? |
| 19:49.16 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: initrd.img |
| 19:49.27 | lef | is there a way I can make X re-parse XF86Config-4 without restarting it? |
| 19:49.30 | shingouz | initrd=/initrd.img |
| 19:49.37 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | initrd=/initrd.img |
| 19:49.45 | shingouz | yes |
| 19:49.50 | Helio | como esta todo |
| 19:49.52 | shingouz | lef: not that i know of |
| 19:49.53 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, do you use deb pkg for kernel ? |
| 19:49.57 | shingouz | !es |
| 19:49.57 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:49.59 | diegonavarro | paulswm: yes, but I'd have to install tons of things. I was hoping for some kind of debian-derived distro that's already fit for a router. |
| 19:50.06 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | instead of image=/vmlinuz? |
| 19:50.10 | diegonavarro | paulswm: like, say, Quantian is already fit for clustering. |
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| 19:50.16 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: no, after it |
| 19:50.29 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: apt-get install is what he did |
| 19:50.41 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | before label or after the entire section? |
| 19:50.42 | shingouz | uh.. giupy ^^^ |
| 19:50.54 | paulswm | diegonavarro: use the sarge installer and you can choose a group of packages based on the box's use, you don't have to isntall all one by one |
| 19:50.59 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: sec |
| 19:51.05 | giupy | shingouz, ? what? |
| 19:51.05 | gvandora | I'm trying to get the kernel tree setup...I've run apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8... however I still don't have anything in /lib/modules/2.6.8-386/build |
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| 19:51.12 | morita04_ | epa loco durmiendote |
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| 19:51.15 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me how to remove a package includimng all it's dependencies |
| 19:51.20 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: image=/vmlinuz, initrd=/initrd.img |
| 19:51.28 | morita04_ | epa loco durmiendoteeeeeeeee |
| 19:51.29 | shingouz | giupy: he has a deb there |
| 19:51.30 | paulswm | diegonavarro: Also, there's some howtos at http://www.aboutdebian.com/network.htm |
| 19:51.40 | paulswm | !tell diegonavarro about d-i |
| 19:51.45 | giupy | shingouz, ok |
| 19:52.05 | diegonavarro | I don't know the first thing about setting up a router :( |
| 19:52.17 | paulswm | diegonavarro: I just gave you a how to :) |
| 19:52.24 | diegonavarro | ahhh thanks :) |
| 19:52.29 | diegonavarro | yes, that will do. |
| 19:52.31 | diegonavarro | thanks for the help./ |
| 19:52.43 | paulswm | diegonavarro: You are most welcome |
| 19:52.51 | shingouz | gvandora: check /usr/src |
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| 19:53.14 | gvandora | shingouz: there's the .bz2 file... why can I do w/ that |
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| 19:53.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | now wq and then reboot? |
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| 19:53.47 | shingouz | gvandora: are you sure you want to make a custom kernel? |
| 19:54.05 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you need to run lilo first then reboot |
| 19:54.23 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: of course save the modified file forst... |
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| 19:54.46 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how do I run lilo per say sorry Im new to this and I haven't got My debian book in the mail yet |
| 19:54.47 | xRDNx | is there a nice X application i can use as a graphical front-end for growisofs (im using Gnome) |
| 19:55.04 | keenan | can you get stuff to appear in the gnome menu immediately after it's installed, without restarting gnome? |
| 19:55.08 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: lilo.conf saved? |
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| 19:55.14 | gpm | xRDNx: apt-cache search |
| 19:55.15 | ico2_ | hi |
| 19:55.17 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes I did wq |
| 19:55.22 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, launch "liloconf" after saved lilo.conf |
| 19:55.23 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: then: lilo |
| 19:55.25 | gvandora | shingouz: I'm trying to build the modules for linux-wlan-ng |
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| 19:55.30 | paulswm | keenan: It will show up in the Debian Menu |
| 19:55.31 | ico2_ | which package contains the pam authentication modules for perl? |
| 19:55.39 | ico2_ | perl-modules doesnt seem to |
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| 19:55.48 | gpm | !search |
| 19:55.48 | dpkg | well, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 19:55.48 | shingouz | gvandora: planning on running kismet? |
| 19:55.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | do I have to type lilo.conf save? |
| 19:55.58 | gvandora | shingouz: ok... I've got files in /lib/modules/ however, not build/ |
| 19:56.02 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: not that i know of |
| 19:56.15 | gvandora | shingouz: do I need to conifgure the source tree first? |
| 19:56.20 | shingouz | gvandora: you need to read up on how to compile a kernel first |
| 19:56.28 | shingouz | the debian way |
| 19:56.29 | keenan | paulswm: I think the Debian Menu needs to be more integrated then |
| 19:56.33 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | there was a syntax error |
| 19:56.37 | gvandora | shingouz: is buidling modules considered buidling a kernel? |
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| 19:56.40 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: correct it |
| 19:56.40 | paulswm | TMD-TheIOTOWER: You can type that if you like but it won't do anything\ |
| 19:56.53 | paulswm | TMD-TheIOTOWER: You run lilo by typing 'lilo' |
| 19:56.57 | gpm | gvandora: no. read a kernel howto. you don't have to do it the debian way, but it's recommended. |
| 19:57.02 | shingouz | gvandora: do you have a debian kernel on the system now? |
| 19:57.09 | gpm | gvandora: there are documents all over the internet. |
| 19:57.13 | gpm | gvandora: google |
| 19:57.28 | shingouz | gvandora: module-assistant helps you if you have a debian kernel |
| 19:57.29 | mdmkolbe | Have the 3.0 R6 ISO's been released yet? I heard that R6 was out, but I only find the R5's on the servers. |
| 19:57.29 | morita04_ | epa loco |
| 19:57.32 | tarzeau | moo |
| 19:57.36 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I did type lilo and it says a syntax error in line 110 |
| 19:57.42 | paulswm | keenan: submit a request :) |
| 19:57.49 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: correct the error and rerun lilo |
| 19:57.51 | paulswm | TMD-TheIOTOWER: Sorry, missed that |
| 19:57.54 | gvandora | shingouz: yes I do... I've been reading and reading... anything in particular you could point me to? Or just a debian kernel building howto? |
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| 19:58.06 | shingouz | mdmkolbe: you do not need the cd's, just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 19:58.25 | paulswm | gvandora: you could start at the Debian Reference Manual, ther's some kernel build stuff there |
| 19:58.25 | shingouz | gvandora: dammit. are you going to run kismet? |
| 19:58.44 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | How do I know what there eror is? |
| 19:58.44 | streuner_ | mdmkolbe: just use sarge |
| 19:58.57 | mdmkolbe | shingouz: I'm doing a fresh install |
| 19:59.00 | gvandora | shingouz: I've got a wifi adapter that works with the prism2 set |
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| 19:59.03 | phanter | hello. I would like to set my server so I can log in on it and it can send mail via the ISP (some of my mails from my laptop are rejected becouse it is not from a ISP). How can I do this, I do not know where to begin? |
| 19:59.06 | streuner_ | !d-i mdmkolbe |
| 19:59.07 | dpkg | mdmkolbe, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 19:59.13 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: i'm not sure what the error is, just that you need to check the line 110 |
| 19:59.37 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how do I list line numbers in VI |
| 19:59.47 | paulswm | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ':set nu' |
| 19:59.49 | Spec | Is there anyone here able to help me with a problem concerning the software "BIE", ssl, and apache? =P |
| 19:59.56 | mtnman | what is the grub equivalent of lilo.conf's 'append="hdc=ide-scsi"? i cannot find reference to it in the grub docs. |
| 19:59.57 | shingouz | gvandora: for a prism2 you can use the orinoco_cs, you do not need wlan-ng unless you are planning on using kismet |
| 20:00.17 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, let us see that line in #flood |
| 20:00.29 | shingouz | good idea |
| 20:00.33 | streuner_ | mtnman: modprobe ide-scsi didnt help at all? |
| 20:00.42 | mtnman | streuner: nope. |
| 20:01.04 | fatal_ | mtnman: just append hdc=ide-scsi on the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 20:01.09 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, and apt-get install vim |
| 20:01.20 | gvandora | shingouz: thanks for your help.. I'm gonna read for a while |
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| 20:01.23 | fatal_ | mtnman: otoh, you probably shouldn't use ide-scsi anyway... |
| 20:01.38 | paulswm | mtnman: it would be "hdc=ide-scsi", put it in the kopt section and rerun update-grub |
| 20:01.57 | shingouz | prism2 even |
| 20:02.06 | mtnman | paulswm: kopt section... which file? |
| 20:02.17 | paulswm | mtnman: and fatal may be right, I was just answering your question not recommending that you do it |
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| 20:02.43 | paulswm | mtnman: you should read the grub docs... in /boot/grub/menu/lst |
| 20:02.53 | paulswm | mtnman: you should read the grub docs... in /boot/grub/menu.lst I mean |
| 20:03.17 | mtnman | paulswm: did you see my original message? i did read teh grub-docs first. |
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| 20:03.51 | paulswm | mtnman: menu.lst is in the docs |
| 20:04.18 | mtnman | paulswm: yes, but i saw no mention of "append" or hcd or anything resembling. |
| 20:04.23 | ribnitz | heyas. Is 4.9 MBytes/sec a normal speed for rsync on a 100 mbit lan if slow machines are involved? |
| 20:04.35 | mtnman | paulswm: in any case, i think fatal is on the right track. |
| 20:04.38 | mtnman | fatal: thanks! |
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| 20:05.26 | Xinux | anybody here know how to install gDesklets ? |
| 20:05.50 | thayboiMu | heh |
| 20:05.50 | shingouz | Xinux: on mepis or whatever you run? no |
| 20:06.24 | Xinux | dont be an @$$, if you know how to run em on debian it'd would most likely work the same on mepis |
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| 20:06.59 | paulswm | mtnman: sorry, was afk, anyway the grub documentation is not the best laid out. |
| 20:07.01 | sir_latin | hey, when I download packages wehre are they stored? |
| 20:07.01 | shingouz | Xinux: the key here is "most likely". go to #mepis and ask there |
| 20:07.10 | sir_latin | and extracted.. so I can delete them? :) |
| 20:07.13 | Xinux | i'm banned for mentioning hacks in mepis |
| 20:07.20 | streuner_ | !based on debian |
| 20:07.20 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 20:07.47 | Xinux | that doesn't stop you from answering my question |
| 20:07.49 | shingouz | Xinux: that is not really my problem |
| 20:07.54 | nite613 | Anyone? Is there an alternative to growisofs for multi-session? |
| 20:07.56 | Xinux | i asked a question |
| 20:07.57 | nite613 | Ihave this problem where is fails after a few sessions, generally when the disk gets about half full |
| 20:08.04 | shingouz | Xinux: and i answered it |
| 20:08.08 | Xinux | i didn't want you to tell me what fucking distro i'm running |
| 20:08.09 | Xinux | no you didin't |
| 20:08.15 | Xinux | you just told me that i'm running mepis |
| 20:08.16 | Xinux | big shit |
| 20:08.20 | shingouz | ty |
| 20:08.21 | mtnman | paulswm: no worries. |
| 20:08.24 | paulswm | Xinux: you didn't ask a debian question, go away |
| 20:08.29 | streuner_ | Xinux: are you? |
| 20:08.35 | Xinux | paulswm look up |
| 20:08.48 | Xinux | anybody know how to install gdesklets? |
| 20:09.05 | streuner_ | in debian apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data |
| 20:09.14 | streuner_ | !info gdesklets-data |
| 20:09.18 | dpkg | gdesklets-data: (displays and sensors for gdesklets), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.32 (sid), Packaged size: 3314 kB, Installed size: 10228 kB |
| 20:09.24 | Xinux | ok thx, and then when i need to install a gdesklet wat do i do? |
| 20:09.29 | sir_latin | and extracted.. so I can delete them? :) |
| 20:09.32 | paulswm | Xinux: apt-get install gdesklets |
| 20:09.34 | sir_latin | hey, when I download packages wehre are they stored? |
| 20:09.44 | Xinux | noo, when i download a gdesklet |
| 20:09.46 | Xinux | to use |
| 20:09.48 | streuner_ | Xinux: you need gdesklets-data too |
| 20:09.50 | justin | sir_latin: find / -name '*.deb' |
| 20:09.51 | xtension | sir_latin no dont thouch them ! |
| 20:10.01 | xtension | sir_latin use apt-get clean instead |
| 20:10.07 | xtension | eheh |
| 20:10.16 | sir_latin | ok, thanks :) |
| 20:10.16 | streuner_ | Xinux: you use nautlius and choose an desklets |
| 20:10.32 | Xinux | ugh, wats nautlius (sorry i'm very n00b to linux) |
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| 20:10.40 | streuner_ | !info nautilus |
| 20:10.45 | dpkg | nautilus: (file manager and graphical shell for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 845 kB, Installed size: 2740 kB |
| 20:10.56 | Spec | nautilus is evil |
| 20:10.57 | Xinux | ahh ok |
| 20:10.57 | Spec | and vile |
| 20:11.09 | xtension | sir_latin you re welcome |
| 20:11.12 | paulswm | And awful |
| 20:11.33 | paulswm | But not as evil or vile as mepis |
| 20:11.35 | deathdellic | xinux go ask em questions in slackware |
| 20:12.01 | EdibleText | paulswm, words of a drunkin pirate surely |
| 20:12.04 | deathdellic | i like mc |
| 20:12.07 | Xinux | 38mb for nautilus |
| 20:12.09 | Xinux | dang |
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| 20:12.27 | deathdellic | use mc xinux |
| 20:12.34 | deathdellic | its more fun |
| 20:12.41 | paulswm | !mepis |
| 20:12.41 | dpkg | MEPIS is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system. Uses KDE by default, and includes the nVidia proprietary 3D driver. It also includes a custom installer on the KDE desktop, with simple LILO configuration. See http://www.mepis.org. It is NOT real Debian, attempts to use apt-get with Debian mirrors will meet with a world of hurt. /join #mepis |
| 20:12.41 | giupy | ahah |
| 20:12.42 | Xinux | !info mc |
| 20:12.47 | streuner | deathdellic: he want running gdesklets... |
| 20:12.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It wont let me WQ it keeps saying 2 more files to edit |
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| 20:13.28 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: wq, not WQ |
| 20:13.34 | streuner | Xinux: that isnt the point, it wont work with mc or gentoo |
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| 20:13.37 | justin | TMD-TheIOTOWER: ':help wq' |
| 20:13.38 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | i klnow i did that |
| 20:13.42 | shingouz | k |
| 20:14.01 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | but it keeps sayin that I have 2 more files to edit |
| 20:14.26 | gvandora | shingouz: Can you tell where debian would unpack the kernel source tree if it came from a package? |
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| 20:14.50 | shingouz | gvandora: it doesn't, you need to unpack it yourself. check in /usr/src |
| 20:15.05 | gvandora | shingouz: is that the .bz2 file? |
| 20:15.13 | streuner | gvandora: no |
| 20:15.16 | shingouz | gvandora: probably |
| 20:15.31 | streuner | gvandora: vanilla kernel source is installable in any folder |
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| 20:15.59 | shingouz | streuner: but doesnt apt-get put it there if you use debian sources? |
| 20:16.01 | streuner | gvandora: debian kernel sources usually lives in /usr/src/(uname -r) |
| 20:16.05 | shingouz | in /usr/src taht is |
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| 20:16.20 | gvandora | shingouz: to unpack the .bz2 what would i use unzip? |
| 20:16.30 | streuner | !info bzip2 |
| 20:16.32 | dpkg | bzip2: (high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-7 (sid), Packaged size: 227 kB, Installed size: 504 kB |
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| 20:16.47 | streuner | gvandora: /msg dpkg kp |
| 20:17.30 | shingouz | gvandora: man tar |
| 20:17.37 | streuner | gvandora: and read the URL mentioned there (newbiedoc.sf.net) section KERNEL-HOWTO |
| 20:17.44 | sparr_ | four partitions, A B C D. if i do linear RAID on A B, and on C D, then RAID 0 (stripe) those two arrays, and then A fails... ill lose the data on A and C, obviously, but what about B and D? |
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| 20:18.46 | Xinux | woah, nautilus is kewl |
| 20:18.56 | streuner | a PITA |
| 20:19.06 | streuner | uses too much memory |
| 20:19.07 | justin | !wayttd sparr_ |
| 20:19.08 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, sparr_? |
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| 20:19.25 | streuner | Xinux: try gentoo |
| 20:19.30 | streuner | !info gentoo |
| 20:19.32 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.46-1 (sid), Packaged size: 741 kB, Installed size: 2356 kB |
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| 20:19.43 | xsdg | sparr_: I don't think A will fail without the entire drive being unreadable :o) |
| 20:19.46 | paulswm | dpkg: downtime is The time during which a computer system is immune from user input. |
| 20:19.47 | dpkg | paulswm: okay |
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| 20:20.10 | gvandora | shingouz + others: thanks |
| 20:20.35 | xsdg | dpkg: downtime =~ s#from#to# |
| 20:20.35 | dpkg | xsdg: OK |
| 20:21.15 | ftugrul | i'm unable to run "alsasound" script at startup, which file should i modify? |
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| 20:21.31 | streuner | ftugrul: uname -a |
| 20:21.32 | giupy | ftugrul, alsaconf do it for you |
| 20:21.49 | justin | edon: what is an albalug? |
| 20:21.50 | paulswm | xsdg: Thanks, didn't notice the grammar b0rk |
| 20:21.56 | edon | how should I ask dpkg for a filename (which package does it belong) ? |
| 20:22.07 | ftugrul | it does, but i have 2 sound cards and until i run this script manually, they stays at wrong order... |
| 20:22.08 | justin | edon: /msg dpkg search |
| 20:22.09 | xsdg | paulswm: np |
| 20:22.09 | edon | justin, a lug |
| 20:22.09 | streuner | edon: option -S |
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| 20:22.28 | EdibleText | justin, albany? linux user group |
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| 20:22.40 | justin | EdibleText: nah, thats what I thought... not even close |
| 20:22.44 | EdibleText | heh |
| 20:22.57 | ftugrul | streuner, Linux box 2.6.11.7 #3 Sat May 28 01:19:45 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:22.59 | edon | streuner, I don't have it installed |
| 20:23.12 | streuner | edon: you havent dpkg installed? |
| 20:23.22 | sparr_ | xsdg: right. so, assume the drive is completely gone. the data on B then becomes useless. but CD still comprises a complete contiguous copy of the latter 50% of the volume, that should be recoverable |
| 20:23.26 | streuner | ftugrul: /msg dpkg alsa |
| 20:23.28 | edon | streuner, yes |
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| 20:23.53 | xsdg | sparr_: by "partition", do you mean on separate drives? |
| 20:23.58 | streuner | ftugrul: /msg ravenbird alsa |
| 20:23.59 | sparr_ | xsdg: yes |
| 20:24.03 | edon | hmm it doesn't replay |
| 20:24.12 | justin | !+search |
| 20:24.12 | dpkg | [search] try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 20:24.13 | xsdg | sparr_: ok; disregard my statement :o) |
| 20:24.18 | justin | edon: ^^^^^^^^^^ |
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| 20:24.54 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok still geting the syntax error I n line 110 its the line i was jsut told to write that has a problem |
| 20:25.24 | streuner | dpkg, alsa |
| 20:25.32 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: could you paste the line in #flood, please? |
| 20:25.46 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | image=/vmlinuz,initrd=/initrd.img |
| 20:25.56 | ftugrul | streuner, i've installed alsa 1.09 (latest) and configured it. alsaconf runs ok. and there's a startup script: /etc/init.d/alsasound if i run this manually, it works. my problem is, it just won't run at startup. |
| 20:26.13 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, no :) imig under the line of image |
| 20:26.26 | paulswm | xsdg: When I saw you fix my grammar, I felt like troubl1 in qotd114 :( |
| 20:26.26 | streuner | ftugrul: set it up by using 'alsaconf' |
| 20:26.40 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, sorry i have sad you "after" .... |
| 20:26.40 | streuner | ftugrul: apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 20:26.52 | ftugrul | streuner, i've done setting up it. it just won't run at boot sequence. |
| 20:26.53 | xsdg | paulswm: not familiar with what you're referring to... |
| 20:26.55 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: image=/vmlinuz and initrd=/initrd.img have to be on their own lines i think |
| 20:26.56 | gass | http://bash.org/?50891 |
| 20:27.31 | streuner | ftugrul: Why did you use alsa source? |
| 20:27.35 | xsdg | gass: thanks |
| 20:27.35 | TNKS | Does anybody know how to control whether the kernel used TSC or HPET for its timer? |
| 20:27.38 | paulswm | xsdg: below... |
| 20:27.39 | paulswm | !qotd114 |
| 20:27.40 | dpkg | somebody said qotd114 was <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 20:27.55 | ftugrul | because i have 2 sound cards and it's latest. |
| 20:27.57 | xsdg | heh |
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| 20:28.18 | sir_latin | how do I search the package list? I'm trying to set up the x server and fluxbox :( |
| 20:28.22 | streuner | ftugrul: disable in BIOS your onboard-chip |
| 20:28.23 | ftugrul | i have to tun alsa-driver's configure script with a custom parameter |
| 20:28.32 | ftugrul | streuner, i'm using both |
| 20:28.40 | streuner | *shrug* |
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| 20:28.57 | streuner | Why in hell want somebody using 2 soundcards? |
| 20:28.59 | ftugrul | streuner, my only problem is, it won't run "alsasound" script at boot sequence. |
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| 20:29.19 | evand | whoo-hoo, got sound issues sorted out :) |
| 20:29.20 | ftugrul | lol there are people with 3 or more sound cards for sure :P |
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| 20:29.43 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Why wont it let me out it keeps saying 1 file left to edit |
| 20:29.47 | ribnitz | Any rsyncist around? - how can I run rsync with root-privs (on the files) but not expose my system to sec threats? |
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| 20:29.58 | amahbod | hey, how do i wget a https folder recursively? |
| 20:30.01 | ribnitz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: q! |
| 20:30.02 | ftugrul | when i've added a shortcut of /etc/init/alsasound to /etc/rc5.d/ it says "ALSA already running" |
| 20:30.12 | amahbod | i mean wget a folder that is on an https webserver |
| 20:30.13 | giupy | amahbod, -r ? |
| 20:30.17 | edon | I have xlibs-static-dev installed, but there's no scrnsaver.h file, how could this be |
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| 20:30.27 | ftugrul | but i still have to run it again manually to use it my configuration. |
| 20:30.30 | justin | TMD-TheIOTOWER: why do you keep telling it to edit 2 files |
| 20:30.48 | amahbod | giupy, i tried that, but it only gets the index file of the directory listing |
| 20:30.50 | streuner | edon: /msg ravenbird search |
| 20:30.53 | ribnitz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: alternatively :n, q |
| 20:30.53 | justin | ftugrul: what is this "/etc/init.d/alsasound" ? |
| 20:31.01 | ftugrul | are there any other startup scripts other than /etc/rcx.d in debian? |
| 20:31.07 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | now it doesnt like line 111 |
| 20:31.13 | ftugrul | justin, it's "alsa startup script" |
| 20:31.17 | giupy | amahbod, dunno.... |
| 20:31.26 | justin | ftugrul: what is wrong with the one debian includes? |
| 20:31.31 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | is there something Im mising? |
| 20:31.37 | giupy | TMD-TheIOTOWER, #flood |
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| 20:31.49 | amahbod | giupy, it is a webfsd webserver that is just a directory listing with links to all the files in the directory |
| 20:31.51 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: please paste the offending line in #flood like i have told you a couple times already |
| 20:31.58 | ftugrul | it's old. |
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| 20:32.02 | amahbod | giupy, but when i tried wget -r -np filepath it didnt work |
| 20:32.27 | giupy | amahbod, i don't have experience with network |
| 20:32.29 | omi_ | hey all, how can I emulate a serial port? |
| 20:32.50 | omi_ | not sure on terminology, virtual serial port? |
| 20:32.51 | ftugrul | so, can't i compile and use any program i want from it source in debian? |
| 20:33.07 | ftugrul | *its |
| 20:33.21 | ribnitz | ftugrul: you can, some are easier than others though. |
| 20:33.21 | dragonZhao | how to install debian under dos? |
| 20:33.22 | greycat | ftugrul: you can do whatever lies within your power. |
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| 20:33.35 | greycat | !d-i dragonZhao |
| 20:33.35 | dpkg | dragonZhao, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 20:33.36 | dragonZhao | i can't boot up machine from cdrom |
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| 20:33.59 | ftugrul | :P ok, i've done. but my debian system won't start it when its needed :P |
| 20:34.00 | shingouz | dragonZhao: if you can boot off a floppy use a bootfloppy |
| 20:34.01 | omi_ | dragonZhao, You can boot form floppy |
| 20:34.42 | lewis | greycat: i am trying to get ssh keys working so that i do not need to enter a password when connecting from a specific ip/machine. i have followed many guides, and looked for many clues, but however hard I try, I am always required to enter in a password. do you have any advice. |
| 20:34.56 | ftugrul | :P no answer here too, thans anyway |
| 20:35.00 | sir_latin | how do I search the package list? I'm trying to set up the x server and fluxbox :( |
| 20:35.07 | ftugrul | *thanks |
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| 20:35.23 | justin | lewis: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 20:35.24 | greycat | lewis: permissions, permissions, permissions. |
| 20:35.28 | greycat | lewis: and check the permissions. |
| 20:35.32 | ribnitz | sir_latin: apt-cache search |
| 20:35.41 | dragonZhao | and I have only one floppy, I borrow from other people |
| 20:35.42 | ribnitz | sir_latin: and .. show |
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| 20:35.54 | lewis | on the remove machine, 700 for .ssh, 600 for authorized_keys. on the client machine, 600 for the private key. |
| 20:36.04 | shingouz | !rube goldberg install |
| 20:36.04 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 20:36.14 | justin | lewis: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 20:36.21 | dragonZhao | i have get the iso from internet with another machine |
| 20:36.34 | lewis | justin: doing that now |
| 20:36.46 | dragonZhao | and I burn them into cd, can I boot with dos and install debian |
| 20:36.48 | edon | hmm, what the heck, no scrnsaver.h in unstable? |
| 20:36.49 | lewis | (i have been using verbose mode in the past too, to no avail) |
| 20:36.54 | shingouz | dragonZhao: check the install docs, i think loadlin might be able to do what you want |
| 20:37.06 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 20:37.06 | dpkg | Since Fri May 27 18:06:38 2005, there have been 161 modifications, 4909 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1640 commands. I have been awake for 7d 2h 30m 29s this session, and currently reference 25597 factoids. I'm using about 17084 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1960.29/89.76 child 1172.14/92.7 |
| 20:37.22 | ribnitz | dragonZhao: I dont think loadlin is supported any longer. |
| 20:38.00 | shingouz | dragonZhao: this your first debian install? |
| 20:38.21 | rob_lt | !tell sir_latin about install xf4 |
| 20:38.32 | dragonZhao | yes, this is the first I install debian |
| 20:38.48 | dragonZhao | I can't use loadlin now? |
| 20:38.56 | justin | dragonZhao: no, boot from floppy |
| 20:38.57 | shingouz | dragonZhao: ok, in that case i am not going to suggest a chroot install |
| 20:39.25 | ribnitz | dragonZhao: you need to boot inot a boot loader, either floppy, or cdrom, or network. |
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| 20:40.26 | othernoob | hey, anyone know where i can find openoffice2 .debs? |
| 20:40.32 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: status |
| 20:40.32 | dpkg | Since Fri May 27 18:06:38 2005, there have been 161 modifications, 4910 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1642 commands. I have been awake for 7d 2h 33m 55s this session, and currently reference 25597 factoids. I'm using about 17084 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1961.02/89.81 child 1172.31/92.72 |
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| 20:40.48 | dragonZhao | the only choice is floppy now , right? |
| 20:40.54 | xtension | othernoob apt-getinstall openoffice.org |
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| 20:41.09 | lewis | justin: i have some info: http://pastebin.com/294799 |
| 20:41.17 | ribnitz | xtension: thats not ...2, is it? |
| 20:41.26 | dragonZhao | I can't boot from cdrom, usbstick, i didn't try network, because I didn't have hub now, this machine can't get on net |
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| 20:41.41 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Well have a new kernel but the mouse on the laptop doesn't work |
| 20:41.45 | othernoob | xtension, that would install 1.13 |
| 20:41.48 | othernoob | 1.1.3* |
| 20:42.00 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | it works for a sec and then the pc freezez up |
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| 20:42.05 | ribnitz | othernoob: what does googl say? |
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| 20:42.31 | sparr_ | how can i set the 'partition type' of a RAID volume? does it even matter? |
| 20:42.33 | lewis | justin: what should the directory permissions be for .ssh/ and what should the file permissions be for authorized_keys be? |
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| 20:42.37 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you sure the bios is set up as it should? |
| 20:42.56 | giupy-incazz | well i'm back |
| 20:43.00 | shingouz | dammit... i so need a smoke. brb |
| 20:43.02 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes I have jsut installed the newest version and set the trackball |
| 20:43.18 | justin | lewis: the mimimum required for YOU to modify and read them, and YOU only |
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| 20:43.30 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: do you run gpm or just X? |
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| 20:43.52 | othernoob | ribnitz: didnt check yet |
| 20:44.00 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | gpm |
| 20:44.30 | ribnitz | othernoob: I doubt its packaged yet. |
| 20:44.38 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | there is a site I found that says they ahve a pathced kernel for this but it has an error in the package |
| 20:44.39 | Mr-R | othernoob: just grab the binary install from openoffice.org (no .deb) |
| 20:44.42 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: dpkg-reconfigure gpm and make the protocol a pure ps/2 or fups/2, try them both |
| 20:45.10 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I downloaded to my windows box and then ftp get the file and install it but it says it has errors |
| 20:45.13 | xtension | othernoob why dont you stick to the stable version ? |
| 20:45.42 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It works fine with the ps/2 mouse jsut not with laptop mouse |
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| 20:45.49 | lewis | justin: ok thanks - if the permissions are 600 (owner read/write only), can you think of anything else that may be the problem? |
| 20:45.51 | xtension | othernoob http://ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirror/ftp.openoffice.org/developer/680_m104/OOo_1.9.104_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz < 1.9 |
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| 20:46.29 | justin | lewis: you didn't add the right file to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 |
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| 20:46.51 | Belboz99 | hey all |
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| 20:47.20 | Belboz99 | anyone got any tips on how to set up Debian for an ATI Radeon 7000? |
| 20:47.21 | lewis | i did 'ssh-keygen -t dsa', had no passphrase, moved the .pub file to .ssh/ on the remote machine, and cat file.pub >> authorized_keys |
| 20:47.34 | xtension | lewis RSA |
| 20:47.37 | streuner | Belboz99: /msg dpkg ati |
| 20:47.56 | rob_lt | TMD-TheIOTOWER: My mouse is freezing too. Does you system unfreeze if you ctrl-alt-f2 and then ctrl-alt-f7? Mine does, but it is still a pain. This is on a thinkpad r40. |
| 20:48.03 | justin | lewis: mv authorized_keys authorized_keys2 |
| 20:48.04 | jasoncohen | how do i wipe out ubuntu's grub bootloader and replace it with debian's? |
| 20:48.05 | rob_lt | s/you/your |
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| 20:48.17 | rob_lt | jasoncohen: man grub |
| 20:48.22 | lewis | xtension: why would RSA help? |
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| 20:48.34 | lewis | justin: the output log showed that sshd tried both locations |
| 20:48.36 | jasoncohen | i installed ubuntu dual-boot and now i can't choose to select debian as the default. I set it as the default in webmin by it didn't take |
| 20:48.56 | xtension | lewis you had a very good link pasted to you today , why dont you folow it step by step |
| 20:48.56 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | no not at all |
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| 20:49.07 | lewis | xtension: i did - and still had problems. |
| 20:49.11 | justin | lewis: how did you copy the ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to the other computer? |
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| 20:49.20 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: do you have the gpm reporting the mouse events to X? that has created a couple of problems on my boxen so far. disable the mouse event forwarding on gpm and configure X to use the mouse straight from /dev/psaux |
| 20:49.21 | lewis | ftp |
| 20:49.21 | rob_lt | jasoncohen: edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst in whatever system is controlling grub. |
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| 20:49.37 | fwest | in squid, what is a TCP_MISS ? |
| 20:49.37 | justin | lewis: try again using scp |
| 20:49.42 | lewis | ok |
| 20:49.46 | xtension | lewis a step by step howto .. it s not getting simpler |
| 20:49.48 | rob_lt | jasoncohen: the first entry is the default boot |
| 20:50.00 | xtension | lewis than a step by step howto |
| 20:50.07 | xtension | lewis please |
| 20:50.10 | jasoncohen | webmin's not even showing the ubuntu grub entries |
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| 20:50.18 | justin | the ssh man page already includes a step by step howto on setting it up |
| 20:50.19 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how do I do that? |
| 20:50.23 | jasoncohen | rob_lt, you can specify another as the default. i did before and it worked fine |
| 20:50.26 | gvandora | I'm trying to build linux-wlan-ng... where do I point the make config for kernel source... I have /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8/ |
| 20:50.47 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: dpkg-reconfigure gpm, then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:50.59 | shingouz | brb |
| 20:51.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok |
| 20:51.21 | xtension | lewis do it once as its explained and go from that making your changes |
| 20:51.31 | shingouz | gvandora: for a prism2 you do not need the wlan-ng, you can get by with orinoco-cs as i told you already |
| 20:51.38 | rob_lt | jasoncohen: it is likely that you are configuring the menu.lst file from the wrong distro, and grub is not going to that file to see what is there. Have you tried from both debian and ubuntu? |
| 20:51.39 | xtension | lewis then you know when and where you screw up |
| 20:51.41 | shingouz | now i am gone for ten |
| 20:51.47 | xtension | lewis and you learn it too |
| 20:51.59 | lewis | xtension: things went wrong at the last step. i didn't get the output the guide said I would. |
| 20:51.59 | jasoncohen | rob_lt, no- just from debian |
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| 20:52.12 | mediafly | Hi, a newbie question. How can I set a cron job to be executed at 6 pm every day? |
| 20:52.14 | xtension | lewis paste the link again |
| 20:52.14 | Belboz99 | streuner: I'm getting a bash message saying "No such file or directory" |
| 20:52.24 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | brb |
| 20:52.42 | lewis | i haven't got the one jethro gave me earlier with me now, though I have: http://www.jdmz.net/ssh/ |
| 20:52.53 | vvviper|a | mediafly: crontab -e |
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| 20:52.55 | xtension | lewis ah |
| 20:52.56 | rob_lt | jasoncohen: try from ubuntu. When grub is actually installed (to the MBR for example) it is told where to find the menu.lst file. If you have two / partitions, you likely have two /boot partitions, only one of which is initially being sourced by grub. |
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| 20:53.13 | vvviper|a | and 0 18 * * * /path/to/command |
| 20:53.32 | xtension | lewis frustration is a teacher |
| 20:53.35 | mediafly | vvviper|a, thank you, but what is the command line for executing a command every day at 6pm? |
| 20:53.54 | vvviper|a | mediafly: 0 18 * * * /path/to/command |
| 20:53.55 | K_Dallas | at |
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| 20:54.06 | mediafly | vvviper|a, thx |
| 20:54.11 | rob_lt | K_Dallas: at will only do it once |
| 20:54.13 | vvviper|a | np |
| 20:54.40 | rob_lt | at now + 5 minutes get beer |
| 20:54.42 | vvviper|a | MIN HOUR MonthDAY MONTH DayOfWeek COMMAND << is the syntax for crontab |
| 20:54.53 | lewis | justin: grr - i did the process again with scp, it didn't help. |
| 20:55.07 | justin | lewis: delete all the key stuff in .ssh and start over |
| 20:55.21 | Belboz99 | anyone else have any idea how to get an ATI Radeon 7000 working in Debian? |
| 20:55.23 | lewis | in both client and remote |
| 20:55.28 | K_Dallas | rob_lt, maybe cron them |
| 20:55.31 | K_Dallas | then* |
| 20:55.32 | justin | lewis: get it working first so you can 'ssh localhost' with no password, then get the other server to work |
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| 20:55.48 | lewis | quite clever. |
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| 20:57.06 | Mr-R | lewis: ok. try ssh -v and look for errors... |
| 20:57.17 | lewis | i have done that already - with -vvv |
| 20:57.32 | xtension | lewis : cat /root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh $remotehost "cat - >> /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" |
| 20:57.32 | lewis | currently, I am trying to get it working on localhost - makes things more simple. |
| 20:57.37 | justin | it's not ssh -vv you need to do, it's sshd |
| 20:57.57 | xtension | lewis that will send you key in a default to the remote server opening up ssh |
| 20:58.13 | xtension | lewis to speed up your doings |
| 20:58.29 | Mr-R | lewis: ops. do you have the output of ssh -v <yourbox>? |
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| 20:58.58 | xtension | Mr-R http://pastebin.com/294799 << |
| 20:59.04 | Mr-R | xtension: thx |
| 20:59.34 | Ungy | Quick question I currently have a 86 kernal installed on my machine but my machine is a pII shoudl I upgrade to 686 kernal or upgrade to the latest 386 kernal |
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| 21:00.04 | ribnitz | pentium and beyond is 686.. |
| 21:00.07 | lewis | ok - RSA or DSA? |
| 21:00.15 | lewis | xtension is a RSA man I think... |
| 21:00.18 | PeTeRB | !kernal |
| 21:00.18 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 21:00.23 | ribnitz | Ungy: so I guess thatd be 686.. |
| 21:00.25 | Ungy | hmm I wonder why sarge install disk installed 386 on me |
| 21:00.42 | Ungy | wierd ok thanks |
| 21:01.16 | Ungy | thanks for the info ribnitz |
| 21:01.22 | ribnitz | Ungy: nm |
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| 21:01.32 | xtension | lewis then stop thinking |
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| 21:01.37 | ribnitz | 4 Mbytes/sec must be lousy for rsync. |
| 21:01.44 | lewis | i did dsa |
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| 21:02.04 | PeTeRB | lewis: Google suggested rsa is a tad bit more secure :/ |
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| 21:02.31 | lewis | wow |
| 21:02.34 | lewis | where is justin? |
| 21:02.45 | PeTeRB | lewis: And RSA is faster |
| 21:02.49 | lewis | i can ssh localhost without a password :) |
| 21:02.59 | lewis | PeTeRB: thanks for that - I will probably change then. |
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| 21:03.35 | Mage_ | and with RSA you have both authentification and encryption |
| 21:03.36 | xtension | othernoob convert the 1.9 file to something compatible |
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| 21:05.10 | ribnitz | I have a 2.6.11 stock debian kernel, does that need patches for evms? |
| 21:06.03 | Belboz99 | okay guys, I found out why it wasn't recognizing my Radeon |
| 21:06.10 | Belboz99 | I was choosing "ATI" |
| 21:06.13 | takatumi | ribnitz: what does google say? |
| 21:06.23 | Belboz99 | I had to go further down the list and choose "Radeon" |
| 21:06.31 | Belboz99 | however, it's still not loading X |
| 21:06.46 | takatumi | Belboz99: what does /var/log/XFree86.0.log say? |
| 21:06.57 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok Im back |
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| 21:07.05 | takatumi | !away |
| 21:07.05 | dpkg | We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. so please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back, as there are over 800 people here. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. in BX, /set auto_away off, /saveirc, or nick changes are just as annoying |
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| 21:07.23 | lewis | btw, I realized one of the things I did differently just now. I did 'cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys' without creating the authorized_keys file first, perhaps that is why |
| 21:07.31 | zOap | do you know of any keyboard layout app which I can use, when I'm not using kde or gnome? |
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| 21:08.20 | lewis | justin: right - I can ssh locally with RSA. I am now going to scp the authorized_keys file to the other machine. |
| 21:08.21 | Belboz99 | takatumi: under where? |
| 21:08.25 | Belboz99 | it's a lot of stuff |
| 21:08.43 | takatumi | Belboz99: check for lines with EE |
| 21:09.18 | Belboz99 | takatumi: the last one says that screens were found, but none of usable configuration |
| 21:09.27 | jasoncohen | is there a way to replace ubuntu's grub boot loader with debian's from debian? |
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| 21:09.30 | PeTeRB | lewis: That creates the file anyway |
| 21:09.39 | lewis | i guess |
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| 21:09.51 | takatumi | jasoncohen: converted an ubuntu system to debian? |
| 21:09.55 | Vantage | with the upcoming release of sarge, i'm looking to switch my MTA to either Exim or Postfix. anyone know of any good comparison articles? |
| 21:10.03 | jasoncohen | takatumi, no- i installed it as a second os |
| 21:10.11 | jasoncohen | but i prefer debian |
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| 21:10.20 | jasoncohen | i think KDE 3.4 is a step backwards |
| 21:10.22 | paulswm | !prize jasoncohen |
| 21:10.34 | Belboz99 | takatumi: that's the only line with EE, however there are a couple with WW |
| 21:10.36 | jasoncohen | lol |
| 21:10.41 | takatumi | Vantage: Exim4 is default, Postfix works as well. google for debian MTA howto or somesuch. |
| 21:10.47 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | dpkg-reconfigure gpm I did this and It says that gpm is not fuly installed |
| 21:11.21 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: you need to install it again. apt-get install gpm should do the trick |
| 21:11.21 | lewis | nooooo. all I did was scp the authorized_keys file to the other machine, and it asks for a password :( |
| 21:11.30 | jasoncohen | so, how do i replace the ubuntu bootloader? otherwise i can't change the default boot option from debian. do i have to set to mount the ubuntu / ? |
| 21:11.44 | takatumi | Belboz99: reconfigure, the ones with WW doesn't matter, EE is what matters. |
| 21:11.48 | Vantage | takatumi: not really looking for a howto (yet), just trying to find a comparison, features, performance, etc of each |
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| 21:11.59 | Vantage | i'm currently running qmail as my MTA |
| 21:12.05 | takatumi | Vantage: both of them have #s |
| 21:12.07 | Belboz99 | okay, I just can't figure out what I'm doing wrong with the configuration |
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| 21:12.24 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It says invalid operation |
| 21:12.39 | ribnitz | Vantage: I am quite happy witrh exim4, others prefer postfix. |
| 21:13.04 | Vantage | ribnitz: does exim support maildir? i know postfix can be made to use it |
| 21:13.08 | takatumi | TMD-TheIOTOWER: can you be more vague? |
| 21:13.11 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It says invalid operation gpm |
| 21:13.14 | ribnitz | Vantage: yep |
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| 21:13.20 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: hmm |
| 21:13.35 | shingouz | what did you tell the system to do, TMD-TheIOTOWER? |
| 21:13.39 | takatumi | TMD-TheIOTOWER: apt-get install gpm |
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| 21:13.42 | Belboz99 | takatumi: could it be that I need to enter the bus ID? I thought that I could just leave that blank. I've never heard of a Bus ID before |
| 21:13.44 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yes |
| 21:13.46 | Vantage | ribnitz: is virtual domain support fairly straight forward? |
| 21:13.48 | ribnitz | Vantage: its like a 5 line configfile change (if you dont need to convert mailboxes) |
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| 21:13.59 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | brb going to get coffe |
| 21:14.02 | takatumi | TMD-TheIOTOWER: invalid operation is if you typed apt-get gpm |
| 21:14.08 | ribnitz | Vantage: havent used that, no idea. |
| 21:14.27 | takatumi | Belboz99: shouldn't matter, just hit enter. |
| 21:15.01 | Vantage | ribnitz: well right now i've got qmail, maildir, vmailmgr and courier-imap for my set up. i believe sticking with courier-imap shouldn't be a problem, but maildir and virtual domains have been my biggest questions about postfix and exim |
| 21:16.06 | ribnitz | Vantage: I have a setup exim4 + clamav + spamassassin + maildir + courier-imap-ssl |
| 21:16.32 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | the new kernel doesnt see my PCMICIA card |
| 21:16.37 | Belboz99 | takatumi: Damn, still no go |
| 21:16.38 | lewis | so, if I can use ssh keys to ssh locally without a password, what am I doing wrong so that I can't do it remotely? |
| 21:16.39 | Mage_ | and me I recommend postfix and cyrus |
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| 21:17.08 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: modconf yenta in there |
| 21:17.13 | takatumi | Belboz99: did you hand edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? |
| 21:17.14 | ribnitz | Mage_: bad experiences with cyrus. locks you in. |
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| 21:17.27 | Mage_ | what kind of bad experiences ? |
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| 21:18.05 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | modconf |
| 21:18.10 | shingouz | yup |
| 21:18.11 | ribnitz | Mage_: not that good performance compared to eg. maildir. Had to convert 20G from cyrus to maildir. |
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| 21:18.23 | Vantage | ribbitz: that sounds pretty much like what i'm looking to setup (except adding virtual domains). how tough was the setup process? |
| 21:18.24 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | its a gateway 200 combo eht0 and modem |
| 21:18.33 | ribnitz | Mage_: there is no tools cyrus -> somethinegels |
| 21:18.44 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | gateway 2000 |
| 21:18.52 | Mage_ | thereis cyrus2courier |
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| 21:18.59 | cristian_C | hi |
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| 21:19.04 | ribnitz | Mage_: must be new. |
| 21:19.18 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: modconf is what you use to set up the kernel to use modules if you want them to be there at boot. yenta sockets is what you look for |
| 21:19.22 | cristian_C | ño- |
| 21:19.23 | Mage_ | there is no tools * -> cyrus too :) |
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| 21:19.34 | Belboz99 | okay, one last question |
| 21:19.41 | Belboz99 | I've got the video figured out |
| 21:19.48 | ribnitz | Mage_: finally I got away, and switched to maildir. |
| 21:19.51 | cristian_C | bgb+ |
| 21:19.54 | Belboz99 | damn Radeon 7000 can't handle 24bit |
| 21:20.07 | Belboz99 | anyway, how does on specify a USB mouse? |
| 21:20.19 | Belboz99 | I don't see the option in there |
| 21:20.37 | gvandora | shingouz: it looks like the orionco usb driver is not included in my kernel.. so I'd have to build it... I'd rather use the linux-wlan-ng since I've had it working with this card on linux... I need some help with the build |
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| 21:21.00 | shingouz | gvandora: use modules-assistant |
| 21:21.19 | shingouz | gvandora: and you never mentioned it being USB in the first place |
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| 21:21.54 | gvandora | shingouz: sorry.... for not being specific..I'm just getting frustrated with this... |
| 21:21.57 | [Elvis] | what can I do to remove the complete x system from my box? |
| 21:22.02 | Belboz99 | anyone know how to specify a USB mouse in Debian Configuration? |
| 21:22.22 | [Elvis] | like the xfree86-common shit |
| 21:22.26 | shingouz | gvandora: for the fifth time (i think): use module-assistant |
| 21:22.27 | [Elvis] | how can I remove it all at once? |
| 21:23.12 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me how I can remove the xfree86-common stuff all at once? |
| 21:23.29 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: just remove xfree86-common. You'll remove everything else. |
| 21:23.30 | PeTeRB | [Elvis]: /msg dpkg remove xf4 |
| 21:23.33 | shingouz | [Elvis]: remove --purge xfree86-common should do it |
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| 21:24.09 | Dumbguy | hmm there a problem with latest X on SID? |
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| 21:24.35 | deta | ;) |
| 21:24.42 | shingouz | Sid, not SID. Sid as a persons name. didn't you check the bugs before you installed/upgraded it? |
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| 21:24.54 | [Elvis] | shingouz do you mean remove or purge it |
| 21:24.57 | [Elvis] | which one? |
| 21:25.00 | lewis | PeTeRB: got any more suggestions? |
| 21:25.02 | Belboz99 | WOOT! I'm IN! :D |
| 21:25.11 | shingouz | [Elvis]: man apt-get |
| 21:25.12 | PeTeRB | lewis: Don't think so |
| 21:25.12 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how do I configure PCMICIA cards form the console? |
| 21:25.16 | Dumbguy | [Elvis] --purge remove |
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| 21:25.27 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: what are you trying to configure? |
| 21:25.30 | lewis | where did justin go? |
| 21:25.35 | Dumbguy | shingouz actually no I didn;t doh |
| 21:25.36 | Belboz99 | took a hell of a lot of fiddling with the configuration, but I did it! :) |
| 21:25.39 | johan_ | with ubuntu how do you set sources |
| 21:25.52 | shingouz | johan_: #ubuntu |
| 21:25.53 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | the new kernel doesn;t see my PCMICIA card like the old one did |
| 21:26.01 | Dumbguy | johan_ Debian is not ubuntu |
| 21:26.01 | shingouz | Dumbguy: you get to keep the pieces i think |
| 21:26.07 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: modconf |
| 21:26.12 | johan_ | oops sorry |
| 21:26.15 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: install yenta |
| 21:26.25 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | It doesn;t have yenta |
| 21:26.42 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: what kernel did you install? uname -a |
| 21:26.43 | Dumbguy | shingouz so there is a problem what you mean pieces ahh crap |
| 21:27.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | 204.158-586tsc |
| 21:27.17 | shingouz | Dumbguy: you run Sid, i have no idea what you did to the system. sid is for devels and masochists |
| 21:27.28 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | 2.4.158-586tsc |
| 21:27.30 | Dumbguy | I am masochist |
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| 21:27.46 | shingouz | Dumbguy: as i said, you get to keep the pieces |
| 21:28.28 | Dumbguy | hmm mayb eI shoudl use lynx and go check the debian bugs |
| 21:28.48 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: hit modconf and see if you can see something looking like pcmcia there, you should be able to find two or three different versions for them, one shold work |
| 21:29.10 | Belboz99 | alright, mouse is completly non-functional :( |
| 21:29.12 | shingouz | Dumbguy: i think so too |
| 21:29.20 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | thers none I looked |
| 21:29.31 | Dumbguy | naw Sid is more fun |
| 21:29.38 | Dumbguy | Sid is rather viscious |
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| 21:29.40 | takatumi | Belboz99: 2.6? |
| 21:29.42 | [Elvis] | ok this is funny |
| 21:29.50 | [Elvis] | when I do dpkg -i coreutils |
| 21:29.55 | [Elvis] | my rmdir works |
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| 21:30.12 | [Elvis] | but then when I try to dpkg --purge xfree86-common rmdir fails |
| 21:30.14 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | when I did the install there was a section under the cjoces to configure PCMICIA |
| 21:30.21 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: oh, sheeeet. you're right, i think the 2.4 needed the pcmcia modules separately. apt-cache search pcmcia-modules-<your exact kernel varsion>, install them |
| 21:30.26 | [Elvis] | and I have to redo the dpkg -i coreutils do use rmdir |
| 21:30.34 | Dumbguy | takatumi why is ther ea problem with 2.6.11 and mice? |
| 21:30.38 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: that was for the install kernel |
| 21:30.45 | takatumi | !2.6 mouse |
| 21:30.46 | dpkg | from memory, 2.6 mouse is modprobe psmouse; modprobe mousedev; echo -e "psmouse\nmousedev" >> /etc/modules; then read http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2199 or see the #Debian FAQ (http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/OtherHardware (#1.3)) |
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| 21:31.11 | [Elvis] | can anyone help me with this? rmdir won't work unless I reinstall the coreutils every time |
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| 21:31.49 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | how come it doesn't recignize it now then? |
| 21:31.57 | shingouz | [Elvis]: unless you *really* need to screw around with the system, let it sit until you get back to it and do the reinstall is about the only advice i can give you |
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| 21:32.16 | [Elvis] | yeah shingouz but I'm really getting on with it |
| 21:32.19 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: different kernel and the pcmcia modules are not installed for that kernel. apt-get install them |
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| 21:32.25 | [Elvis] | working on 'testing' version now |
| 21:32.33 | xtension | [Elvis] what s the rror ? |
| 21:32.34 | _7h0r573n | hi@all... |
| 21:32.35 | zOap | shingouz, can you tell me a nice keyboard switching app which I can use when I'm not using kde or gnome? |
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| 21:32.43 | [Elvis] | you see when I try gzip it gives a segmentation error |
| 21:32.47 | [Elvis] | then when I do dpkg -i gzip |
| 21:32.50 | [Elvis] | and then gzip |
| 21:32.50 | [Elvis] | it works |
| 21:32.51 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | whats the cahe search name for pcmicia cars? |
| 21:32.55 | shingouz | zOap: huh? i have no idea |
| 21:32.57 | [Elvis] | but after I try to do anything then |
| 21:33.02 | [Elvis] | it gives the same error again |
| 21:33.02 | zOap | shingouz, ok:) |
| 21:33.03 | shingouz | !tell TMD-TheIOTOWER about search |
| 21:33.05 | _7h0r573n | is here anybody who has experience with uli sata m5289 chipset under debian? |
| 21:33.08 | xtension | [Elvis] your sources file is fckd up |
| 21:33.22 | shingouz | _7h0r573n: any chance of you changinc that nick? |
| 21:33.22 | xtension | [Elvis] you editted it completely wrong |
| 21:33.31 | Dumbguy | [Elvis] apt-get update |
| 21:33.31 | _7h0r573n | suse supports this chipset but i cant figure out wich patch do they youse |
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| 21:33.40 | Dumbguy | quit |
| 21:33.42 | shingouz | thorsten: thanks :) |
| 21:33.44 | Dumbguy | exit |
| 21:33.50 | xtension | [Elvis] put # in front of all lines except the top one |
| 21:33.53 | thorsten_ | shingouc: ok. |
| 21:34.03 | [Elvis] | does that explain why it works..and after I do anything with dpkg it doesn't work again |
| 21:34.24 | xtension | [Elvis] find out yourself and come back in case it doenst |
| 21:34.25 | shingouz | thorsten_: is that sata supported by a vanilla kernel? |
| 21:34.31 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | !tell search |
| 21:34.42 | takatumi | TMD-TheIOTOWER: /msg dpkg search |
| 21:34.44 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: /msg dpkg search |
| 21:34.48 | ecobit_ | how do i do a depends: line in a control file for version >= libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 ? |
| 21:34.48 | [Elvis] | xtension I allready got that in my sources |
| 21:34.51 | [Elvis] | top line has testing in it |
| 21:34.54 | [Elvis] | the rest is all commented |
| 21:35.13 | thorsten_ | shingouz: no, ive tried it but it dont work too. |
| 21:35.14 | ecobit_ | since the version is part of the package name? |
| 21:35.31 | xtension | [Elvis] really ? |
| 21:35.47 | [Elvis] | yea |
| 21:35.50 | xtension | [Elvis] then comment the top line as well and run apt-setup |
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| 21:36.15 | shingouz | thorsten_: i mean is it supported as in have you checked the docs? if it is it should be supported on debian too, all debian kernels do have the config with them afaik |
| 21:36.19 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok you lost me |
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| 21:36.35 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: huh? |
| 21:36.37 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | im using invision cant search dpkg |
| 21:36.47 | Ugly_Duck | hiya, how do i make nano my default editor for apt-setup instead of vi? |
| 21:37.02 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: of course you can. cant you type "/msg dpkg search" |
| 21:37.17 | takatumi | Ugly_Duck: try update-alteratives --config editor (man update-alternatives) |
| 21:37.20 | shingouz | without the quotes that is.. |
| 21:37.26 | Ugly_Duck | takatumi: thanks alot |
| 21:37.57 | xtension | want you to know y all , i m a rainbow too |
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| 21:38.11 | kullanici | rm: unrecognized option `--intro.swf' |
| 21:38.19 | kullanici | how can i delete this ? |
| 21:38.20 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | no not with invision on I get banned from the channel |
| 21:38.34 | caryth | whats the shortcut in opera to search wikipedia? |
| 21:38.35 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: really? wow |
| 21:38.50 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yeah it sucks |
| 21:38.50 | takatumi | !tell TMD-TheIOTOWER -about search |
| 21:38.57 | kullanici | hey |
| 21:39.04 | kullanici | rm -rf "--intro.swf" |
| 21:39.08 | kullanici | rm: unrecognized option `--intro.swf' |
| 21:39.10 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | !tell TMD-TheIOTOWER -about search |
| 21:39.12 | kullanici | what can i do :o |
| 21:39.16 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: maybe you need to upgrade the client ;) |
| 21:39.18 | xtension | kullanici hahaha |
| 21:39.28 | lewis | xtension: did you hear my news? |
| 21:39.29 | thorsten_ | shingouz: ive checked it, it dont support it and the suse docs do not say anything about this chip |
| 21:39.42 | xtension | rm -rf ./--intro... |
| 21:39.43 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | jsut use text based mirc is all that I can do now to much time to do that |
| 21:39.48 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | im gonna google it |
| 21:39.50 | xtension | lewis nop |
| 21:39.54 | shingouz | thorsten_: in that case i think you are s**t out of luck? |
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| 21:40.01 | [Elvis] | x^equa|s1 doing apt-setup again |
| 21:40.04 | [Elvis] | xtension |
| 21:40.05 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | found it see that was much faster |
| 21:40.13 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: IRC, not mIRC. mirc is a client, irc is the protocol |
| 21:40.21 | kullanici | xtension :)) thanks |
| 21:40.28 | xtension | kullanici np |
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| 21:40.40 | takatumi | kullanici: or rm -- --intro.blah |
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| 21:40.53 | xtension | lewis what is your news ? |
| 21:40.58 | lewis | xtension: i can ssh locally without needing a password, but still having problems for remote machines. |
| 21:41.02 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | so is it apt-get <pakage> install ? |
| 21:41.12 | xtension | lewis did you get my command line ? |
| 21:41.13 | takatumi | TMD-TheIOTOWER: man apt-get |
| 21:41.17 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: apt-get install package |
| 21:41.20 | lewis | what was that? |
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| 21:41.22 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: man apt-get |
| 21:41.27 | xtension | lewis use it to send your key to the remote host |
| 21:41.33 | [Elvis] | xtension apt-setup worked |
| 21:41.34 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok ok ok |
| 21:41.37 | shingouz | :) |
| 21:41.38 | takatumi | !faq TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 21:41.39 | dpkg | TMD-TheIOTOWER: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 21:41.42 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | mauals I get it |
| 21:41.44 | xtension | [Elvis] thanks |
| 21:41.45 | lewis | oh |
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| 21:42.13 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: i am not trying to tick you off, check the mans on any new command first so you do not shoot yourself in the leg |
| 21:42.16 | lewis | shit - my irc log cleared - and i lost it from my clipboard - could you copy/paste it for me |
| 21:42.29 | Ugly_Duck | takatumi: ummm... cant find update-alteratives, apt-cache search doesn't find it either |
| 21:42.29 | vh13 | hi |
| 21:42.31 | xtension | lewis prob not |
| 21:42.49 | [Elvis] | the problem is...it looks like my system jams after every copyright message with the gnu grep in it xammu |
| 21:42.51 | [Elvis] | xtension |
| 21:42.52 | xtension | lewis i extracted it and modified it for your need |
| 21:42.55 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | cool its all good I wa just saying you guys were right |
| 21:42.55 | takatumi | Ugly_Duck: run it as root, you probably have it already. |
| 21:43.02 | xtension | yes [Elvis] |
| 21:43.16 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: of course we are, this is #debian after al ;) |
| 21:43.23 | shingouz | s/al/sll |
| 21:43.25 | [Elvis] | xtension is that normal then? |
| 21:43.27 | xtension | lewis its in man ssh i suppose |
| 21:43.30 | shingouz | damn.. whatever :) |
| 21:43.31 | takatumi | lewis: /lastlog <key> |
| 21:43.32 | xtension | yes [Elvis] |
| 21:43.35 | lewis | if the local authorized_key works, why wouldn't: 'scp authorized_keys remoteuser@remotehost:/home/remoteuser/.ssh' work? |
| 21:43.37 | Ugly_Duck | takatumi: i was trying in a root console |
| 21:43.55 | [Elvis] | xtension are you serious now? |
| 21:43.58 | xtension | yes [Elvis] |
| 21:44.00 | gvandora | shingouz: I'm using m-a. I'm getting an error during the build, saying it can't find te source package for linux-wlan-ng... shouldn't m-a be downloading it? |
| 21:44.13 | [Elvis] | xtension what to do then about it? |
| 21:44.32 | xtension | [Elvis] it s working now is nt it ? |
| 21:44.35 | shingouz | gvandora: yes but only if you tell it to do so. you didnt happen to read the manual for m-a? |
| 21:44.44 | takatumi | Ugly_Duck: cat /etc/version |
| 21:44.52 | xtension | [Elvis] then its fixed |
| 21:44.56 | xtension | [Elvis] enjoy |
| 21:45.03 | [Elvis] | well....it looks like it's updating something but it looks like it hangs with the copyright message |
| 21:45.09 | [Elvis] | so I can only ctrl-c it |
| 21:45.11 | [Elvis] | and then I get an error |
| 21:45.11 | takatumi | gvandora: which card? |
| 21:45.22 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | ok now do I need to reboot? |
| 21:45.31 | shingouz | takatumi: usb prism2 |
| 21:45.43 | takatumi | TMD-TheIOTOWER: reboot if you upgraded the kernel. |
| 21:45.45 | xtension | [Elvis] check your sources.list for changes |
| 21:45.45 | Ugly_Duck | No such file or directory |
| 21:45.47 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: no need to reboot if you just installed the pcmcia modules |
| 21:45.57 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | jsut modconf |
| 21:46.00 | takatumi | Ugly_Duck: you are not running debian. |
| 21:46.01 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: just hit modconf and slap the correct modules in there |
| 21:46.05 | lewis | did you see my question |
| 21:46.10 | [Elvis] | yeah that's changed xtension |
| 21:46.13 | lewis | (xtension) |
| 21:46.18 | Solet-deb | this is probably a stupid question but i just want to be sure as i've never done it before: when adding ram to a linux box it will sync it self when i flip the machine back on right? or are there any configs i have to modify? |
| 21:46.22 | Ugly_Duck | Linux dazza 2.6.7-1-386 #1 Thu Jul 8 05:08:04 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux <-- debian sarge install cd |
| 21:46.29 | shingouz | Solet-deb: just install |
| 21:46.30 | xtension | [Elvis] so run apt-get pudate again |
| 21:46.30 | [Elvis] | it says all testing now xtension |
| 21:46.40 | Solet-deb | shingouz: cool thanks |
| 21:46.47 | paulswm | Solet-deb: it'll be fine all by itself |
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| 21:47.00 | xtension | lewis linux is not easy if you think windowz |
| 21:47.09 | [Elvis] | I did xtension and after the apt-upgrade |
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| 21:47.32 | xtension | [Elvis] same gzip error ? |
| 21:47.37 | lewis | xtension: ok - but what was wrong with scpping the authorized_keys file? |
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| 21:47.54 | [Elvis] | no |
| 21:47.59 | [Elvis] | but then when I try to upgrade |
| 21:48.15 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | there arent any PCMCIA card choices in the MODCONF |
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| 21:48.20 | [Elvis] | priors errors apply to /var/cache and then a lot of stuff |
| 21:48.24 | penguin | Debian rocks |
| 21:48.32 | [Elvis] | that message like 30 times |
| 21:48.34 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: none at all? now that is real odd |
| 21:48.35 | LoneTech | takatumi: did you perchance mean /etc/debian_version ? |
| 21:48.44 | blahdeblah | I've just had a brain freeze - what's the approved way to add customisations to your module.conf? |
| 21:48.50 | xtension | [Elvis] http://pastebin.com/ << |
| 21:48.53 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: run update-modules for me |
| 21:48.54 | blahdeblah | s/module/modules/ |
| 21:48.57 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | There are some in the modules but nonoe in the chocies |
| 21:49.14 | blahdeblah | shingouz: thanks |
| 21:49.19 | takatumi | LoneTech: yes I did, but he seems to be running sarge and he doesn't have update-alternatives which is a part of dpkg, so I give up. |
| 21:49.32 | [Elvis] | xtension http://pastebin.com/294814 |
| 21:49.35 | LoneTech | ic |
| 21:49.37 | shingouz | blahdeblah: what? i didnt even say anything to you yet :) |
| 21:49.38 | xtension | lewis i spend weeks and weeks on the same issues , dont worry |
| 21:49.50 | Ugly_Duck | export EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano <-- is that right |
| 21:49.51 | [Elvis] | and then it hangs after that copyright message xtension |
| 21:49.55 | blahdeblah | shingouz: sorry - thought you were answering my question. |
| 21:50.02 | lewis | it is annoying, because I feel so close, and the issue should be relatively simple. |
| 21:50.06 | shingouz | blahdeblah: well... if it helped you :) |
| 21:50.12 | blahdeblah | shingouz: it wasn't the right answer anyway, since man update-modules says: update-modules is an obsolete command. |
| 21:50.15 | blahdeblah | :-) |
| 21:50.26 | xtension | [Elvis] apt-get clean && try again |
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| 21:50.35 | Solet-deb | i'll be back in 3 mins... gotta drop a 512 stick of mushkin in that got here today |
| 21:50.35 | lewis | there are only a certain number of permutations to try. permissions of two files, and one directory, transfer method of public file, etc. |
| 21:50.36 | shingouz | blahdeblah: ..k :p |
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| 21:50.51 | [Elvis] | k |
| 21:50.56 | shingouz | Solet-deb: remember to use enoug static electricity |
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| 21:51.15 | Solet-deb | shingouz: huh? |
| 21:51.18 | hodgman | do I need to add unstable lines to the sources list in order to install php5 ? |
| 21:51.21 | paulswm | Just don't drop it in the toilet. |
| 21:51.28 | Solet-deb | i always ground my self before |
| 21:51.29 | simonrvn | hodgman: no |
| 21:51.30 | blahdeblah | So after all that, what is the appropriate replacement for update-modules? |
| 21:51.37 | simonrvn | hodgman: because it isn't there |
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| 21:51.48 | xRDNx | hi. Is there an easy way to transforma mpeg2 and divx movies to "normal" DVD movies ? Tried dvdauthor, but its kinda hard to use. |
| 21:51.49 | [Elvis] | have to do dpkg --configure -a first because I interupted it xtension |
| 21:51.50 | shingouz | Solet-deb: dont you know that ram works better if you rub it against a cat before you install it? ;) (dont do it ffs) |
| 21:51.50 | takatumi | hodgman: check backports.org |
| 21:51.53 | hodgman | simonrvn: ahh..where do I get a .deb of it ? |
| 21:51.55 | xtension | [Elvis] ok |
| 21:52.01 | hodgman | takatumi: ok thanks |
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| 21:52.02 | paulswm | Solet-deb: We did have a visitor who dropped a memory module in the toilet while peeing, in case you were wondering :) |
| 21:52.05 | Solet-deb | contrary to popular belief... i'm great with computers, just not linux |
| 21:52.15 | Solet-deb | ROFL |
| 21:52.18 | [Elvis] | but have you ever seen the system jam after that copyright message xtension ? |
| 21:52.21 | shingouz | Solet-deb: and modest too :D |
| 21:52.22 | PhorceP | I'm not able to apt-get install libuim0 on sarge. I believe it is because of this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=304888 however the fix that the dev suggests doesn't work. I spoke with ethics about this earlier and he suggested I ask again later. Any suggestions? |
| 21:52.23 | xtension | hodgman google for dotdeb |
| 21:52.33 | Solet-deb | LOL |
| 21:52.37 | Solet-deb | brb |
| 21:52.38 | Ugly_Duck | if you have a source in your sources.list at the end of the deb line.. can you just specify the package you want from that source? |
| 21:52.42 | paulswm | Solet-deb: Then he dried it off with a hair dryer and was kind of surprised that he couldn't boot, IIRC |
| 21:52.52 | simonrvn | hodgman: /msg dpkg php5 |
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| 21:53.02 | xtension | Solet-deb yeah windowz makes you think that |
| 21:53.07 | takatumi | hodgman: I don't think you'll find any there. you shouldn't mix packages from unstable with stable or testing. |
| 21:53.32 | penguin | Why not mix packages? |
| 21:53.38 | lewis | xtension: i'll be back here tomorrow - trying some more :P |
| 21:53.39 | CyisWork | anyone know what trick the gnome-volume-manager is using to auto-mount removable drives? trying to debug why it work on laptop but does on desktop |
| 21:53.39 | xtension | Solet-deb children run windowz boxes nowadays |
| 21:53.48 | shingouz | paulswm: clean water, some 100% alky (methanol ir ethanol or mix thereof) plus the hairdryer should have worked |
| 21:53.53 | nonoo | ugh, stupid question: I just wrote a C program, compiled with gcc and it was successful, gave me an a.out file, and when I try to run a.out it says command not found |
| 21:53.55 | simonrvn | penguin: if you feel like breaking your install, sure go ahead and mix |
| 21:54.01 | simonrvn | xtension: s/he left |
| 21:54.03 | penguin | ./a.out |
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| 21:54.18 | nonoo | why that? |
| 21:54.34 | penguin | because PWD is not in your path |
| 21:54.47 | [Elvis] | xtension http://pastebin.com/294818 that's what I get because when I do dpkg --configure -a I have to ctrl-c everything because the system hangs at those things |
| 21:55.06 | CyisWork | both systems have hald and gnome-volume-manager running... |
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| 21:55.12 | xtension | [Elvis] looks bad |
| 21:55.14 | p88 | hi, is there an ncurses based sftp client? |
| 21:55.25 | paulswm | shingouz: hairdyer bad, it's a static electricity generator :) |
| 21:55.29 | gpm | !search |
| 21:55.29 | dpkg | search is, like, try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 21:55.30 | xtension | [Elvis] how bout a reinstall ? |
| 21:55.33 | takatumi | penguin: I heard it's prone to breakages, I run sid and have an assortment of deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list everything still works though. yet, I don't recommend it to anyone. |
| 21:55.39 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I need the kernel for bf2 |
| 21:55.41 | nonoo | penquin: could you explain a little more? when you say path do you me like an environment variable or something? |
| 21:55.49 | [Elvis] | yeah....you're not the first to tell me that...but can't reach the box...so hard to reinstall |
| 21:55.55 | p88 | or... |
| 21:55.55 | [Elvis] | have been trying to fix it all dayu |
| 21:56.02 | p88 | does anyone know of an ncurses based sftp client? |
| 21:56.03 | penguin | Type echo $PATH and see what you get |
| 21:56.05 | shingouz | paulswm: well.. treu but even the heat kills the chips if the thing is too close |
| 21:56.19 | shingouz | TMD-TheIOTOWER: bf2? |
| 21:56.21 | xtension | [Elvis] i think you mixed sources |
| 21:56.28 | [Elvis] | yeah I did |
| 21:56.30 | [Elvis] | before |
| 21:56.35 | xtension | [Elvis] i dont know how to fix that |
| 21:56.40 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | yeah thats woody 3 |
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| 21:56.45 | xtension | [Elvis] apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:56.53 | nonoo | penquin: what changes the path? just me resetting teh variable? |
| 21:56.57 | [Elvis] | damn..it's just so weird that after every copyright message it hangs |
| 21:57.00 | xtension | [Elvis] apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 21:57.18 | [Elvis] | k |
| 21:57.28 | shingouz | ah.. tv time for me, the ultimate geek entertainment airs again. the original star trek. /me is off |
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| 21:57.36 | xtension | [Elvis] do that until it says youre in the clear |
| 21:57.38 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 21:57.39 | penguin | You can change your path by resetting the variable |
| 21:57.53 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | whosgonna help0 me now |
| 21:58.07 | xtension | TMD-TheIOTOWER the mighty boot cd |
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| 21:58.32 | shingouz | he just needs the pcmcia modules on a 2.4 working xtension |
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| 21:58.39 | penguin | PATH=$PATH:. and then you can run a.out without ./a.out |
| 21:59.00 | paulswm | !comfort TMD-TheIOTOWER |
| 21:59.01 | dpkg | There, there, TMD-TheIOTOWER. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:59.11 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | thanks BOT |
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| 21:59.42 | Solet-deb | i'm back |
| 21:59.45 | paulswm | !beer me |
| 21:59.54 | xtension | Solet-deb children run windowz boxes nowadays |
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| 22:00.20 | Solet-deb | xtension: wtf? |
| 22:00.33 | [Elvis] | hmm this is really weird...suddenly it can't connec tto the apt sources anymore |
| 22:00.38 | xtension | Solet-deb you missed the last remark |
| 22:00.54 | Solet-deb | which was? |
| 22:01.05 | xtension | [Elvis] check sources.list again |
| 22:01.09 | xtension | Solet-deb children run windowz boxes nowadays |
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| 22:01.28 | Azar | hi :) |
| 22:01.28 | [Elvis] | no I mean when I run apt-setup it won't connect to any ftp anymore while it just did |
| 22:01.30 | Solet-deb | no i saw that... |
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| 22:01.40 | xtension | [Elvis] apt-get |
| 22:01.45 | Solet-deb | what exactly are you trying to say? |
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| 22:01.57 | [Elvis] | ah it works again |
| 22:01.58 | [Elvis] | via http |
| 22:02.08 | blahdeblah | What are some suggested apps for video capture from a VCR with a Zoran card (Pinnacle DC10)? |
| 22:02.33 | PhorceP | So nobody knows? |
| 22:03.32 | [Elvis] | gonna try the dist-upgrade now xtension |
| 22:03.38 | [Elvis] | yeah and I appreciate your help |
| 22:03.39 | [Elvis] | :P |
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| 22:04.31 | [Elvis] | k doing dist-upgrade it says it has to install a lot :P |
| 22:04.34 | xtension | Solet-deb no not the keyboard ?! |
| 22:04.42 | Xinux | !mepis |
| 22:04.47 | xtension | go [Elvis] |
| 22:05.02 | Xinux | i need to get gDesklets to work on fluxbox |
| 22:05.09 | Azar | master xtension, I have the xdm disabled at startup ( as I want it to ) and I use startx then out of X I go Exit back to console, I have a question: when I get back in console, is that normal to have these messages (given the fact described above ) Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved ! ( after installing nvidia I commented out "dri" and "GLcore" |
| 22:05.21 | kullanici | !dotdeb |
| 22:05.21 | dpkg | [dotdeb] for the latest php and mysql releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/ |
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| 22:05.38 | kullanici | what's source.list url for dotdeb ? |
| 22:05.42 | [Elvis] | I think it's upgrading now |
| 22:05.50 | Xinux | ya |
| 22:05.57 | simonrvn | kullanici: use a browser ffs |
| 22:05.58 | Xinux | i would like the source.list url for dotdeb too |
| 22:05.58 | xtension | Azar ? |
| 22:06.10 | Azar | mr xtension? |
| 22:06.21 | penguin | So you cant get X to work? |
| 22:06.21 | Xinux | deb http://packages.dotdeb.org ./ |
| 22:06.24 | Xinux | is the source |
| 22:06.25 | Blissex | Azar: use this checklist: http://tinyurl.com/58zb9 |
| 22:06.38 | simonrvn | if you can't be arsed to open a browser to see the site, i can't be arsed to help |
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| 22:06.50 | Azar | thanks Blissex |
| 22:06.51 | xtension | dear Azar i wouldnt know if taht s bad, does something crash or is something broken ? |
| 22:06.54 | paulswm | Xinux: WHich debian release are you running? |
| 22:06.55 | Xinux | simonrvn: stfu, its down |
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| 22:07.28 | Shari | hey |
| 22:07.28 | Azar | xtension, no, I just wondered if those messages are normal as I configured it in a way X does not like It seems |
| 22:07.30 | [Elvis] | xtension I still get the 'prior errors exist to' shit...let's see what it does |
| 22:07.35 | ecobit_ | is there a command to dpkg to show the installation scripts? |
| 22:07.42 | ecobit_ | of a .deb ? |
| 22:07.44 | Xinux | paulswm: i'm not running deb |
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| 22:07.49 | iLLf8d | anyone know why evms support isn't included in the deb canned kernels? |
| 22:07.53 | xtension | Azar could be |
| 22:07.55 | simonrvn | Xinux: welcome to /ignore |
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| 22:08.12 | Xinux | simonrvn: welcome to /i-dont-give-a-shit |
| 22:08.13 | paulswm | simonrvn: I think he's running mapis, he was here earlier being an ass |
| 22:08.17 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: you sure it aint? |
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| 22:08.22 | Azar | yeah everything works normal, so I guess is X kicking and screaming |
| 22:08.37 | xtension | simonrvn care to look : http://pastebin.com/294818 ? |
| 22:08.42 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: well from all the docs i've been reading all signs point to no (has it changed?) |
| 22:08.44 | simonrvn | figures. probably thinks we owe him/her support or some such bullshit |
| 22:08.45 | Xinux | paulswm: i wasn't being an ass, you're the one making ignorant remarks that i'm running mepis when i asked a question |
| 22:09.01 | Azar | Xinux you are being obnoxious with the helpers |
| 22:09.15 | Xinux | deb http://packages.dotdeb.org ./ |
| 22:09.18 | Xinux | i found the f'in source |
| 22:09.20 | paulswm | Xinux: I didn't say you were running mepis back then. |
| 22:09.21 | Xinux | and he talks shit to me |
| 22:09.26 | Shay | !tell Xinux about debian based |
| 22:09.29 | paulswm | Jun 03 16:07:14 <Xinux> i'm banned for mentioning hacks in mepis |
| 22:09.32 | xtension | simonrvn he supposedly mixed sources |
| 22:09.34 | tarzeau | don't ever use unofficial debian sources! |
| 22:09.35 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: No idea. I am in the process of rsyncing gigabytes across (at a lousy 5 Mbytes/sec) to convert the thing to lvm. |
| 22:09.38 | simonrvn | no i just have time to make snarky remarks, soory ;p |
| 22:09.42 | simonrvn | sorry* |
| 22:09.51 | simonrvn | xtension: his fault |
| 22:10.05 | Xinux | somebody asked for the source |
| 22:10.06 | xtension | simonrvn hard day at work ? |
| 22:10.07 | Xinux | so i provided it |
| 22:10.10 | Xinux | wtf is wrong with that? |
| 22:10.10 | tarzeau | !topicbadger Xinux |
| 22:10.12 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that Xinux didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 22:10.19 | kullanici | how can i import mysql4.1 database to mysql4.0 ? |
| 22:10.23 | [Elvis] | xtension it's installing all the stuff now where it gave errors on...so it's looking kinda good |
| 22:10.23 | [Elvis] | :) |
| 22:10.30 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: ah lvms nice and worth it =P I've been considering going to an evms setup to get some raidtoys going too, the whole centeralized tool concept sounds nice |
| 22:10.32 | simonrvn | no, long boring evening of wokr later. replacing hard drives |
| 22:10.33 | tarzeau | !knoppixbadger kullanici |
| 22:10.39 | simonrvn | work* |
| 22:10.46 | kullanici | tarzeau ? |
| 22:10.47 | xtension | simonrvn need help ? |
| 22:10.51 | tarzeau | !badgerknoppix streuner |
| 22:10.59 | Azar | !topicsmite Xinux |
| 22:11.00 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Xinux. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 22:11.04 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | I an doomed to suffer the kernel search |
| 22:11.07 | Xinux | ... |
| 22:11.07 | simonrvn | kullanici: there's a faq for such questions. go see it, www.mysql.com IIRC |
| 22:11.12 | Xinux | wtf, why is everybody flaming me |
| 22:11.14 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: if you canm get it to work. my hw here is really low end. |
| 22:11.17 | simonrvn | i'm fine |
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| 22:11.26 | cannonball | Hi all, on the page http://debian.vergenet.net/testing/kernel-source-2.6.11/kernel-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-5.hls.2005052700_i386.changes, it lists a megaraid patch, can someone help me find that patch? Google is not finding for me the patch source. |
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| 22:11.41 | Shay | Xinux: maybe it's because you're talking about a non-debian distro in a debian channel? |
| 22:11.47 | Xinux | i never talked about |
| 22:11.58 | Azar | cannoball, is the manufacturer out of business? |
| 22:11.59 | kullanici | simonrvn can you say keywords for this case please :s |
| 22:12.01 | Xinux | i asked "how do i install gdesklets on fluxbox" |
| 22:12.21 | simonrvn | use the grey matter in your head |
| 22:12.23 | cannonball | Azar: As far as I can tell, it's a Debian maintainer patch, not from LSI. |
| 22:12.31 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: dunno I have no practical experience with it, tho I get the impression that it shouldn't be difficult |
| 22:12.44 | cannonball | Azar: I'm just trying to see if they removed the if MEGARAID_NEWGEN=n from Kconfig.megaraid. |
| 22:12.46 | Azar | cannoball, oh I see |
| 22:12.51 | cannonball | Azar: or if there was more to it than that. |
| 22:12.56 | Silicon | actually the brain is pink until it is soaked in the preservative |
| 22:12.57 | xtension | [Elvis] dont reboot |
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| 22:13.03 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: thats what I see here too, shouldnt be that hard, have lvm2 working at work.. |
| 22:13.04 | _psionic_ | hi |
| 22:13.13 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs12/?t=gr,lnxw16=AFIG12 <- probably a gentoo based article but somewhat interesting nonetheless |
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| 22:13.23 | _psionic_ | anyone can help me with a make-jpkg problem? |
| 22:13.30 | [Elvis] | I won't xtension, I never reboot it |
| 22:13.31 | [Elvis] | :p |
| 22:13.32 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: you play with lvm at all? |
| 22:13.34 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: anyone can? |
| 22:13.40 | simonrvn | it's called blood. and i was r3eferring to the top layer of the brain |
| 22:13.43 | xtension | [Elvis] if reboot run lilo first ! |
| 22:13.45 | Azar | cannoball, as far I can say it depends of the Debian distro you are using: woody, sarge or sid |
| 22:14.03 | caryth | how the fuck does open srouce survive? no one ever has architectural docs, system diagrams. |
| 22:14.09 | [Elvis] | well if it reboots, I won't be able to get back on I'm affraid :P |
| 22:14.10 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: I recently moved a drive from one box to here (both with the same volume group names) used the the lvm tools to rename and export stuff worked out perfectly (was very cool) |
| 22:14.22 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: set it up at work. works great, if you do a few considerations |
| 22:14.25 | caryth | is so perposterous; i'm a big fan of "the source code is the docs", but there needs to be SOME higher level explanation some where |
| 22:14.26 | xtension | [Elvis] no it dont reboot itself |
| 22:14.28 | drac | I have remote remote esd server, but xine (gui) doesn't let me to choose esd output on remote like mplayer one does |
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| 22:14.30 | zOap | caryth, keep it clean |
| 22:14.38 | drac | Any idea on commandline output choosing? |
| 22:14.42 | paulswm | Xinux: you were told how before, but it probably doesn't work because you're not running debian |
| 22:14.43 | Blissex | caryth: the very same happens with proprietary software, only worse./ |
| 22:14.44 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: you bother using it for your root filesystems? |
| 22:14.54 | simonrvn | Silicon: but yeh, i see your point |
| 22:14.57 | Xinux | paulswm: bull. |
| 22:14.59 | caryth | i've never seen any proprietary software mismanaged to the point of having no docs |
| 22:15.04 | [Elvis] | damnit it looks like it's hanging again on a copyright message |
| 22:15.08 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: no, there I have a boring ext3. not worth it for like a 500mb partition. |
| 22:15.08 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | well none of the kernels except the install version supprt my PCMCIA card |
| 22:15.11 | caryth | whereas i cant find ANY high level docs for oh, say, MONO |
| 22:15.12 | _psionic_ | if I run fakeroot make-jpkg I always get the error message: cannot create temp file... |
| 22:15.12 | Blissex | caryth: thats the voice of naive innocence |
| 22:15.22 | mtnman | caryth: you sound like you are complaining. |
| 22:15.23 | [Elvis] | you have never seen it hanging on copyright message xtension |
| 22:15.24 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | so What so I do now> |
| 22:15.25 | [Elvis] | ? |
| 22:15.26 | Azar | caryth: that is the poing, OS is NOT proprietary |
| 22:15.32 | paulswm | *sigh* the lonnies are arriving early this weekend |
| 22:15.32 | caryth | complaining? no, i'm screaming. |
| 22:15.34 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: yeah me too |
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| 22:15.39 | xtension | [Elvis] retry |
| 22:15.45 | caryth | Azar: huh? |
| 22:15.46 | Blissex | caryth: it is often very important to avoid documenting proprietary sw. Job security thru obscurity is a _very_ popular strategy |
| 22:15.46 | xtension | [Elvis] repeat |
| 22:15.55 | [Elvis] | yeah k but should I ctrl-c it.. |
| 22:15.55 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: at work its to pvs (each of them a hw raid 5) |
| 22:15.55 | Xinux | paulswm: you can keep being ignorant me, there is got to be one person in this channel who knows how to install a gdesklet on fluxbox, i've seen it done before. |
| 22:15.57 | [Elvis] | or just keep waiting |
| 22:16.07 | mtnman | caryth: free software is a gift, and you're looking the horse in the mouth. |
| 22:16.09 | Azar | caryth, OS is about learning and freedom of ideas... it is up to the user to become inventive |
| 22:16.10 | [Elvis] | because I'm not positively sure if it's gonna do anything or not |
| 22:16.16 | paulswm | Xinux: /join #mepis |
| 22:16.17 | bucky | caryth, have you looked at mono-doc |
| 22:16.19 | xtension | [Elvis] well it s not windowz |
| 22:16.19 | TMD-TheIOTOWER | Can anyone help? |
| 22:16.29 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: nice i'm sure evms would come in handy there I haven't raided anything in *nix yet going to start tho |
| 22:16.30 | caryth | developers are shooting a gift horse in the head if they're dumbass enough to not give some sort of higher level overview of their project. |
| 22:16.31 | Shay | Xinux: what about reading the gdekslets documentation? |
| 22:16.38 | Shay | TMD-TheIOTOWER: don't ask to ask |
| 22:16.43 | Xinux | Shay: all of it is for gnome |
| 22:16.53 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: how has your raid experienced been (uneventful I hope, any tricks?) |
| 22:16.54 | caryth | you'd have to be completely retarded to not give potential devleopers some sort of idea how your proejct works |
| 22:16.59 | jethro | !irritate paulswm |
| 22:17.00 | dpkg | paulswm: hi every1 who uses dvd thx |
| 22:17.01 | Blissex | caryth: unfortunately now that it is well known that free sw ''ownership'' leads to highly paid jobs with major corporates, ''job security through obscurity'' is becoming a popular strategy in free sw too (cfr. FontConfig/Xft2, ALSA, ...) |
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| 22:17.04 | caryth | frankly, they should be fired from freesoftware |
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| 22:17.17 | zOap | Xinux, ok, installing gdesklets it's no problem, but why do you ask this question in #debian, when #fluxbox and #gdesklets are much better alternatives for your question? |
| 22:17.18 | caryth | Blissex: very good point, unfortunately. |
| 22:17.21 | simonrvn | iLLf8d: s/w raid in linux is stable. works for me |
| 22:17.23 | Azar | hehehe that is a proprietary attitude, caryth |
| 22:17.45 | Shay | Xinux: it seems to me that you have not read the documentation, it does not matter wich window manager you are using, gdesklets can run standalone |
| 22:17.50 | Shay | Xinux: so, read again |
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| 22:17.56 | paulswm | jethro: Hi, I thought you'd gone to sleep or got a life or something :) |
| 22:17.59 | Shay | Xinux: (or try to think) |
| 22:18.02 | caryth | i'm just aghast as vast a project as mono doesnt have any internal documentation |
| 22:18.05 | iLLf8d | simonrvn: any noticeable performance hit? |
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| 22:18.12 | Xinux | Shay: I've read the documentation, it's mostly for gnome... |
| 22:18.13 | Xylene | is http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20050603/ sarge? |
| 22:18.19 | caryth | API docs are all well and good, but there's zilch on how the greater Mono system works. |
| 22:18.20 | iLLf8d | simonrvn: noticeable as in human noticeable not machine time |
| 22:18.22 | Shay | Xinux: read again |
| 22:18.23 | simonrvn | when say alsa can't be arsed to put a ppc-using person in charge of snd-powermac, you gotta fucking wonder |
| 22:18.25 | jethro | paulswm: I m having a pain setting up a gentoo uml, so I can be authoritative when I talk about it :) |
| 22:18.33 | simonrvn | (speaking of ALSA) |
| 22:18.34 | Blissex | caryth: now Mono is a project effectively owned and run by a big corporate where everybody is very scared of rounds of downsizing. |
| 22:18.35 | [Elvis] | I'll just ctrl-c every time it hangs and make it install the next package xtension |
| 22:18.37 | zOap | Xinux, well, I've used gdesklets in kde without problem. |
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| 22:18.44 | bucky | caryth, join irc.gimp.org #mono and bitch at miguel |
| 22:18.44 | paulswm | !gentoosmite jethro |
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| 22:18.47 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: Only 23G rsync left. |
| 22:18.48 | jethro | indeed! |
| 22:18.48 | T-Cero | Se puede hablar en español acá? |
| 22:18.56 | T-Cero | hay alquien que lo hablé? |
| 22:18.59 | jethro | !es |
| 22:18.59 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:19.01 | Azar | !spanish |
| 22:19.02 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:19.03 | fas3r | hi all |
| 22:19.05 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: sounds like a debian mirror =P |
| 22:19.06 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: why do you want to use evms? |
| 22:19.10 | caryth | i'm going to go cry myself to sleep now |
| 22:19.16 | T-Cero | thanks! |
| 22:19.18 | simonrvn | they put some dufus who's never even seen a powermac in charge of the snd-powermac driver.... LIKE WTF!? |
| 22:19.18 | zOap | T-Cero, visit #debianforspanishnativeswhichwontbothertospeakenglish |
| 22:19.21 | caryth | damnit free sfotware, why cant you bother to make yourself relevant! |
| 22:19.35 | [Elvis] | no hablas espanol :P |
| 22:19.43 | Shay | zOap, Xinux: and I'm runing gdesklets in Enlightenment, the whole point is know how to use gdesklets, not "how to run it in X window manager" |
| 22:19.44 | T-Cero | zOapm I get it, thank you! |
| 22:19.45 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: If I calculated ocrrectly, will take liuke 2 hrs at the speed I get (5 MB/s) |
| 22:19.46 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: well first cause it looks cool, second I'd like to startup with software raid, third cause I may have a need for it in a more enterprise environment soon |
| 22:19.50 | xtension | simonrvn he s wearing a suit |
| 22:19.53 | paulswm | !beer caryth |
| 22:19.53 | simonrvn | this may have changed however.... (hopefully) |
| 22:19.59 | Blissex | caryth: if You were a Novell employee, and knowing how Novell is doing, would you want to make yourself more indispensable (no Mono docs) disposable (comprehensive Mono design docs so Novell can offshore Mono development to the Philippines)? |
| 22:20.02 | simonrvn | xtension: eh? |
| 22:20.08 | [Elvis] | hmm xtension 2 errors I get |
| 22:20.10 | simonrvn | </rant> |
| 22:20.11 | xtension | simonrvn and he doesnt say fuck |
| 22:20.11 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: I know its not needed for software raid but why not use evms anyway |
| 22:20.22 | Xinux | Shay: heh, enlightment, now theres a WM that f'ed up on my computer >.< |
| 22:20.24 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: you know its first raid, then possibly lvm, then evms? |
| 22:20.27 | simonrvn | xtension: who's this? |
| 22:20.34 | bucky | mono is well documented.... whaaa! |
| 22:20.35 | [Elvis] | I'll do another dist-upgrade ...see what it does now |
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| 22:20.53 | xtension | simonrvn they put some dufus who's never even seen a powermac in charge of the snd-powermac drive |
| 22:21.00 | paulswm | You're not allowed to be in the IT industry if you don't say 'fuck', it's a rule. |
| 22:21.03 | Azar | novell's mono charges now an arm and a leg |
| 22:21.23 | Azar | ...while firing employees |
| 22:21.24 | iLLf8d | ribnitz: yeah I do =) |
| 22:21.25 | Blissex | bucky: caryth was referring to _design_ docs... |
| 22:21.28 | mtnman | paulswm: does one acutally have to give a fuck, or just say it? |
| 22:21.37 | [Elvis] | xtension do you think it just takes very long to upgrade the console-common |
| 22:21.38 | [Elvis] | ? |
| 22:21.55 | xtension | [Elvis] no |
| 22:21.59 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: plus if I am more serious into raid, I consider hw raid. |
| 22:22.13 | xtension | [Elvis] reconnect ? |
| 22:22.19 | ribnitz | iLLf8d: the only expensive thing wil lbe the controller. |
| 22:22.22 | paulswm | mtnman: You have to give a fuck, but if, for instance, you're a developer and you've never muttered 'fuck', you haven't done much developing :) |
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| 22:22.41 | [Elvis] | xtension reconnect to what? |
| 22:22.50 | xtension | [Elvis] reconnect to the box |
| 22:23.03 | simonrvn | afk |
| 22:23.10 | [Elvis] | ok |
| 22:23.14 | Empty | Hey all. I am doing a woody->sarge upgrade on a systemimager image in a chroot. nfs-common won't upgrade b/c of the lack of a /proc and/or its inability to "restart" the service? Any way to get around this? |
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| 22:23.17 | Dict_02x | hi all |
| 22:23.30 | bucky | http://www.mono-project.com/SVN |
| 22:23.39 | Dict_02x | Can I use 3d-desktop without a gorgeous VideoCard ?? |
| 22:23.41 | xtension | Empty no |
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| 22:24.02 | ribnitz | Dict_02: yep.. |
| 22:24.05 | xtension | Empty to be exact |
| 22:24.11 | [Elvis] | ok I reconnected and trying the apt-upgrade again |
| 22:24.12 | nksen | Empty: map the /proc fs in the chroot |
| 22:24.31 | iLLf8d | Dict_02x: I got no experience with it but usually those kinda things work tho run slow as shit w/out a good vidcard |
| 22:24.43 | Dict_02x | ribnitz, so, that means that I can use it with the vesa driver? |
| 22:24.46 | Empty | how does one do that? |
| 22:25.01 | xtension | Empty mount -t proc proc /proc |
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| 22:25.21 | xtension | Empty in the chroot |
| 22:25.31 | Empty | ah OK thanks |
| 22:25.49 | [Elvis] | ok xtension I'll put in pastebin what it says |
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| 22:27.25 | [Elvis] | xtension http://pastebin.com/294830 |
| 22:27.33 | Empty | xtension, worked like a charm thanks |
| 22:27.50 | [Elvis] | the list of errors you see on top are like 50...and it already removed a lot after the first dist-upgrade |
| 22:27.57 | Azar | bucky: http://www.mono-project.com/Kickstart |
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| 22:28.04 | [Elvis] | but it won't go further than those 2 now |
| 22:28.11 | bucky | yay! |
| 22:28.17 | [Elvis] | and I have to ctrl-c every time I get that fucking copyright message |
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| 22:29.34 | xtension | [Elvis] replace in your sources.list sarge and testing with sid and do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:29.52 | xtension | [Elvis] its not supposed to , but ... |
| 22:30.09 | Azar | I wish I knew how to make the debdev know that lynx will not perform downloads in Sarge... maybe it is better, security reasons |
| 22:30.25 | bucky | something happened that is worthy of discussion... but maybe not on #debian... Miguel forked Gnome and started Ximian then when he went to Novell all his gpl copywrites went to Novell including mono |
| 22:30.32 | Azar | but also: there is no more warning about cookie downloads either |
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| 22:31.02 | Azar | bucky I am not wondering... |
| 22:31.17 | Azar | there is a "sale" frenzy nowadays with inflation coming around |
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| 22:31.45 | yoo | Hi everybody |
| 22:31.51 | xtension | yoo yoo |
| 22:31.52 | bucky | people bitched about having mono and people bitch about not having mono... some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope |
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| 22:32.06 | yoo | :) |
| 22:32.07 | [Elvis] | ok xtension gonna do the sid apt-get upgrade now |
| 22:32.19 | yoo | yo xtension |
| 22:32.34 | xtension | [Elvis] apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:32.38 | Azar | that why I like linux.. Debian, flexibility, I do not like to be kept in leash.. new changes, new challenges |
| 22:32.43 | yoo | i have a problem with alsa |
| 22:32.53 | Azar | ok yoo what problem? |
| 22:32.54 | xtension | yoo who doesnt ? |
| 22:32.57 | yoo | i can't load the modules on boot |
| 22:32.58 | Azar | :) |
| 22:33.10 | yoo | i must load with modconf |
| 22:33.17 | yoo | i'm french |
| 22:33.23 | Azar | yoo you have to identify and comment out in /etc/modules your oss sound modules |
| 22:33.24 | yoo | so sorry for my english |
| 22:33.35 | [Elvis] | yeah I did xtension |
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| 22:33.55 | yoo | it's not the problem i think |
| 22:33.55 | Xinux | wats the command to chmod a folder to yourself? |
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| 22:34.01 | Azar | yoo for example: my oss module for via is via82cxxx_audio I # comment it out there |
| 22:34.10 | TwistedLappy | Anyone know why I cant access my CD-rom? its in /media/cdrom isnt it? |
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| 22:34.19 | Azar | yoo try that first then come back |
| 22:34.19 | Danar | i'd like to burn a recovery cd, but there'd be a lot of wasted space on the cd. is there a good way to make use of it? |
| 22:34.29 | yoo | snd_seq: Unknown symbol snd_register_device |
| 22:34.29 | yoo | snd: Unknown parameter `device_mode' |
| 22:34.32 | ribnitz | yoo: most of us are not native english speakers. |
| 22:34.34 | Xinux | hello? |
| 22:34.38 | Danar | the iso is only ~150Mb |
| 22:34.40 | jethro | @annoy Xinux |
| 22:34.40 | ravenbird | Xinux: Oooooh, aaah, Hmmm???? |
| 22:34.42 | yoo | :) ok |
| 22:34.45 | Azar | ouch |
| 22:34.52 | Xinux | ouch... wat gayness bot |
| 22:35.01 | jethro | @say !gay |
| 22:35.02 | ravenbird | !gay |
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| 22:35.17 | Xinux | no bots allowed here......... |
| 22:35.17 | Azar | yoo some of your alsa modules are not configured right then |
| 22:35.25 | yoo | ok |
| 22:35.33 | paulswm | !test |
| 22:35.33 | dpkg | Sorry, paulswm, I didn't get your test. |
| 22:35.51 | jethro | @lart dpkg |
| 22:36.07 | Ugly_Duck | what dev tools does one need to make some thing by source.. gcc, make ?? |
| 22:36.14 | Azar | yoo are you using Sarge? |
| 22:36.36 | yoo | no |
| 22:36.38 | yoo | sid |
| 22:36.48 | jethro | !b-e |
| 22:36.49 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 22:36.49 | ribnitz | Ugly_Duck: buildßessential |
| 22:36.55 | jethro | Ugly_Duck: ^^ |
| 22:36.58 | Azar | ouch its ok but you might have packages that broke dependencies.. maybe not |
| 22:37.13 | [Elvis] | do you think this dist-upgrade is gonna work xtension ? |
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| 22:37.37 | xtension | [Elvis] it just might |
| 22:37.44 | yoo | i commented my ligne with "device_mode " in modprobe.conf |
| 22:37.46 | Azar | try uninstall / reinstall alsa-base then configure the modules right btw, discover1 might nauseate alsaconf I did not use that |
| 22:37.52 | yoo | but ot's the same |
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| 22:38.08 | Ugly_Duck | ribnitz: is this part of another package i need to install, because i cannot find that package |
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| 22:38.13 | yoo | ok |
| 22:38.14 | sparr_ | I have a software RAID array built with mdadm. I did a bad thing and rewrote the partition tables on the physical drives in the array to make the partitions larger (with the same start sector). How can I recreate the RAID array? |
| 22:38.16 | Azar | yoo you are courageous, I would not touch modprobe.conf |
| 22:38.18 | jethro | xtension: you're wasting your time |
| 22:38.24 | jethro | [Elvis]: you're wasting OUR time |
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| 22:38.33 | xtension | [Elvis] Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY |
| 22:38.34 | ribnitz | Ugly_Duck: build-essential, metapackage, depends on all the right stuff |
| 22:38.40 | Azar | HAHAHAHA |
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| 22:38.44 | yoo | oh i don't know |
| 22:38.54 | ribnitz | dpkg, build-essential? |
| 22:39.02 | yoo | ok don't touch modprobe.conf |
| 22:39.07 | yoo | :) |
| 22:39.10 | abrotman | Ugly_Duck: it's a metapackage |
| 22:39.11 | jethro | xtension: he's been told what to do hours ago. he just won't listen, and keep on whining. give up, for your own good |
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| 22:39.15 | [Elvis] | jethro I don't see in which way I'm wasting your time? |
| 22:39.15 | abrotman | !info build-essential woody |
| 22:39.27 | Azar | yoo alsa is very sensible to install and configure in Debian, if you went sid... I do not know... |
| 22:39.27 | dpkg | build-essential: (Informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 6 (woody), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
| 22:39.28 | xtension | jethro i like his persistance |
| 22:39.30 | Ugly_Duck | abrotman: ahh huh |
| 22:39.42 | abrotman | it's also in sarge and sid |
| 22:39.43 | xtension | jethro and he doenst run x |
| 22:39.44 | TwistedLappy | abrotman: should I use asla for my laptop to get sound working or something else? |
| 22:39.45 | paulswm | jethro: Well what do you expect from someone who uses a dead hillbilly as a nick :P |
| 22:39.46 | Ugly_Duck | ribnitz: thanks, found it; installing now and looks like its putting all the things i need in there |
| 22:39.48 | jethro | [Elvis]: you keep on asking the same questions again and again. you've been told what to do but you don't want to listen. there *IS* no solution |
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| 22:40.00 | abrotman | TwistedLappy: your options are alsa or OSS ... pick your poison :) |
| 22:40.13 | Azar | yoo ask the masters here, I am just a new user that just fought alsa for 2 weeks and finally managed to install/configure |
| 22:40.17 | xtension | jethro you sound like gates |
| 22:40.19 | TwistedLappy | abrotman: is there a major difference? |
| 22:40.19 | paulswm | And he *means* poison |
| 22:40.26 | jethro | xtension: gates? |
| 22:40.27 | [Elvis] | how can there be no solution? this is linux? |
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| 22:40.38 | [Elvis] | windows = system fails...just reinstall |
| 22:40.38 | xtension | jethro your friend bill |
| 22:40.42 | [Elvis] | is it the same with linux? |
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| 22:40.45 | abrotman | TwistedLappy: yes |
| 22:40.48 | zumbi | no [Elvis] |
| 22:40.50 | paulswm | [Elvis]: The just reinstall Linux |
| 22:40.53 | Azar | [Elvis]: this is Debian you got it wrong |
| 22:40.54 | jethro | [Elvis]: there are some situation you can't recover |
| 22:41.03 | abrotman | wtf is wrong with his system? |
| 22:41.15 | [Elvis] | at least I can try jethro |
| 22:41.16 | xtension | abrotman http://pastebin.com/294830 |
| 22:41.18 | TwistedLappy | abrotman: Want to tell me what? |
| 22:41.18 | jethro | abrotman: he mixed sarge and sid, he has weird errors by random commands |
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| 22:41.26 | jethro | s/sarge/woody/ |
| 22:41.33 | xtension | [Elvis] upgrade to sid |
| 22:41.36 | paulswm | [Elvis]: You've screwed up your system so badly that the best solution is to reinstall, and not to mix distros |
| 22:41.39 | xtension | [Elvis] jsut do it |
| 22:41.39 | [Elvis] | am doing it now |
| 22:41.40 | abrotman | TwistedLappy: how much do you like sound ? |
| 22:41.41 | daesotho | [daesotho@Pavel:/etc ^_^]$ dpkg -S /etc/hostname |
| 22:41.41 | daesotho | dpkg: /etc/hostname not found. |
| 22:41.53 | TwistedLappy | abrotman: A lot.. |
| 22:41.57 | Azar | let him reinstall, it is a good practice, LOOK at me |
| 22:42.03 | zeo33x | would the linux kernel fail to start some process if many are started in a short period of itme?> |
| 22:42.04 | abrotman | TwistedLappy: sadly .. use alsa |
| 22:42.10 | zeo33x | s/itme/time |
| 22:42.13 | TwistedLappy | abrotman: kk thanks |
| 22:42.15 | abrotman | xtension: so he needs to upgrade all the way ? |
| 22:42.15 | tarzeau | zeo33x: well yes |
| 22:42.17 | daesotho | it was created by debian in the initial configuration |
| 22:42.22 | tarzeau | zeo33x: if it's limited |
| 22:42.25 | ribnitz | [Elvis]: the other option is upgrading to a sid. |
| 22:42.26 | xtension | PEOPLE HES 2000 KM FROM HIS SERVER |
| 22:42.27 | zumbi | i always try to compile kernel-sources i get a kernel panic, but with kernel.org everything is ok, why is it ? do you know ? |
| 22:42.32 | abrotman | daesotho: yes |
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| 22:42.39 | [Elvis] | am doing it now ribnitz |
| 22:42.39 | abrotman | xtension: so what .. i do mine remotely |
| 22:42.46 | Azar | [Elvis]: there is nothing wrong with a fresh reinstall: I did it 52 times in 3 years |
| 22:42.46 | daesotho | but dpkg -S doesn't say what package created it |
| 22:42.50 | ribnitz | xtension: so? |
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| 22:42.51 | dondelelcaro | there are machines I administer that I've never even seen |
| 22:43.03 | FieldySnuts | yeah me too |
| 22:43.03 | jethro | ribnitz: that would all depend on how fucked the system is already |
| 22:43.08 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: but you're blind :) |
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| 22:43.12 | ribnitz | xtension: I have managed a system 300 kms away for years. no prob. |
| 22:43.16 | FieldySnuts | @lart abrotman |
| 22:43.20 | paulswm | zumbi: compiling debian kernel sources always works OK for me, so it's not the source of the source that's the problem |
| 22:43.21 | FieldySnuts | ouch |
| 22:43.21 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: stop doing admin work without your contacts in :) |
| 22:43.23 | Azar | :) |
| 22:43.25 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 22:43.32 | Azar | AOLonDebian |
| 22:43.32 | ribnitz | jethro: true. |
| 22:43.48 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: dondelelcaro is blind without his glasses/contacts .. IIRC anyways |
| 22:43.55 | xtension | [Elvis] i fix this dont worry, there s a lot of dumb asshole here who think they run linux |
| 22:44.02 | paulswm | Well that explains some stuff |
| 22:44.05 | dondelelcaro | well, I can see a machine if I get close enough to it |
| 22:44.05 | daesotho | what created /etc/hostname? |
| 22:44.06 | tarzeau | abrotman: feelin' bubbly? |
| 22:44.10 | xtension | [Elvis] a lot of stupid fucks |
| 22:44.14 | ribnitz | FieldySnuts: those are free.. |
| 22:44.17 | abrotman | daesotho: a script |
| 22:44.18 | jethro | daesotho: the command hostname |
| 22:44.22 | FieldySnuts | and then the quesiton of course, is if they don't know what they're doing, why do they have root access |
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| 22:44.37 | zumbi | paulswm, what fs do you compile as [*] ? |
| 22:44.41 | [Elvis] | it's just always the same problems...it hangs when I get the copyright message...it might be just busy...so i'll just let it run for like 10 mins see what it does |
| 22:44.42 | dondelelcaro | xtension: are you just being purposely adversarial? If so, please stop it. You're not helping at all. |
| 22:44.45 | FieldySnuts | and if that's not in your control, keep multiple full backups of the system.. I have to do that at work, my boss thinks he knows his stuff and fucks up samba or squid or apache here and there |
| 22:44.50 | paulswm | xtension: I don't get your meaning, who are the dumb assholes and stupid fucks? |
| 22:44.51 | JohnnyST | An Adaptec 2610SA card dose that one use the aacraid driver? and is it hardware RAID? http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#adaptec |
| 22:44.53 | abrotman | he needs to pick a single distro of debian .. |
| 22:44.53 | Ungy | hmm I cannot find ay bugs abotu xfree86 breaking with latest version of SID hmm |
| 22:44.53 | FieldySnuts | the best part is he blames linux.. cough. |
| 22:44.54 | ribnitz | FieldySnuts: because thats cool.. |
| 22:44.57 | FieldySnuts | </rant> |
| 22:45.10 | Azar | xtension give [Elvis] the apt primer to read |
| 22:45.13 | zeo33x | tarzeau: how can i change the limit? |
| 22:45.20 | abrotman | JohnnyST: did you even read that ? |
| 22:45.26 | Ungy | [Elvis] what the hell are you doign to yoru system |
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| 22:45.30 | paulswm | !singlishsmite FieldySnuts |
| 22:45.31 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: Say some more, lah! Like I care! |
| 22:45.33 | tarzeau | zeo33x: look for ulimit. but you don't want so many things started at once... |
| 22:45.42 | tarzeau | zeo33x: there must be something broken |
| 22:45.43 | ribnitz | Linux kernel IOWait is 100% deoendent on hw, so cant be fixed by more cpu, more ram, etc, am I right? |
| 22:45.48 | [Elvis] | trying to save it Ungy |
| 22:45.59 | zeo33x | tarzeau: im mainly concern because sometimes dockapps arent started |
| 22:45.59 | jethro | !cluebat [Elvis] |
| 22:46.04 | zeo33x | when i start my manager |
| 22:46.04 | abrotman | [Elvis]: if you really love it .. just put it to sleep :) |
| 22:46.06 | JohnnyST | abauer, I guess not :) |
| 22:46.10 | jethro | gah this should've been d-i |
| 22:46.12 | xtension | [Elvis] do you have a free partition on that box ? |
| 22:46.14 | paulswm | Ungy: He's trying to un-fuck-up it :P |
| 22:46.21 | JohnnyST | oops abrotman I guess not it is late here :) |
| 22:46.29 | [Elvis] | no xtension |
| 22:46.32 | Ungy | [Elvis] seriously you really got to let it go man |
| 22:46.39 | paulswm | xtension: Yeah, didn't think you'd answer my question. |
| 22:46.44 | abrotman | JohnnyST: is your question answered? |
| 22:46.49 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: you need to reinstall grep, because it looks like you're running a non Debian version. |
| 22:46.52 | Ugly_Duck | when it asked for gtk2.0- what package is it after gtk2-engines-gtk-qt? |
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| 22:46.57 | Ungy | So anyway has anyone upgraded x with SID today |
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| 22:47.11 | TwistedLappy | i did |
| 22:47.19 | jethro | Ungy: I did too |
| 22:47.24 | JohnnyST | abrotman: Yes so the next one is it a good card? |
| 22:47.30 | abrotman | JohnnyST: what is the CPU ? |
| 22:47.32 | zumbi | paulswm, i am using /boot/config-2.6.11-1-386 as .config for my kernel and i have patch it with squashfs, i am going for the third try... |
| 22:47.35 | Ungy | And it is workign for you two? |
| 22:47.41 | jethro | Ungy: yes |
| 22:47.43 | [Elvis] | hmm dondelelcaro Preparing to replace console-common 0.7.38 (using .../console-common_0.7.51_all.deb) ... |
| 22:47.43 | [Elvis] | grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1 |
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| 22:47.54 | tnks | hi all. I'm a little new to grub. To enact changes to the boot-loading, should just changing menu.lst be enough? |
| 22:48.04 | tnks | because I'm not getting what I want doing that. |
| 22:48.07 | paulswm | zumbi: Not sure why you're telling me, but good luck :) |
| 22:48.13 | Ungy | My work machine just flashes twice then tells me it's nto configured correctly after reboot |
| 22:48.17 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: grep is it's own package. |
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| 22:48.24 | dondelelcaro | s/'// |
| 22:48.26 | abrotman | JohnnyST: ? |
| 22:48.27 | JohnnyST | abrotman: It is an Intel Xeon. |
| 22:48.30 | ribnitz | tnks: yes |
| 22:48.31 | abrotman | JohnnyST: 32bit ? |
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| 22:48.39 | [Elvis] | you think that's the reason it hangs on the message dondelelcaro ? |
| 22:48.41 | paulswm | dammit I was going to apostrophesmite you, dondelelcaro :P |
| 22:48.42 | zumbi | paulswm, thanks, hehe, i was telling you, because you were the one that responded to my question :-D |
| 22:48.50 | Azar | ..if grub gonna take over lilo I am lost: in 3 years I was not able to understand it |
| 22:48.51 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: yes. |
| 22:48.52 | Ugly_Duck | or is it after libgtk2.0-0 |
| 22:48.56 | abrotman | JohnnyST: i'm asking because i just put a 2410SA in an Opteron box .. and the closed stuff from adaptec is iffy on 64bit debian |
| 22:49.00 | zumbi | s/responded/answered |
| 22:49.02 | dpatuzzi | Hi all! |
| 22:49.02 | [Elvis] | so you want me to get grep from debian site? |
| 22:49.03 | paulswm | zumbi: Oh, sorry, old man, poor memory :) |
| 22:49.09 | abrotman | JohnnyST: RPMs .. crap .. not really debian's fault |
| 22:49.24 | abrotman | JohnnyST: but afaik .. it's working perfectly fine |
| 22:49.29 | JohnnyST | abrotman Do I need the closed stuff? |
| 22:49.34 | Ungy | jethro TwistedLappy what kernal you using? |
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| 22:49.41 | jethro | !kernal |
| 22:49.41 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 22:49.47 | abrotman | JohnnyST: not *need* .. stuff that's nice to have |
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| 22:49.52 | SmallR2002 | people |
| 22:49.56 | jethro | Ungy: custom 2.6.10 |
| 22:49.59 | abrotman | JohnnyST: you can find the utils at the adaptec site |
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| 22:50.00 | paulswm | jethro: colonel? |
| 22:50.05 | silverton | is there any possible way to transfer music to a minidisc player using debian? |
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| 22:50.11 | jethro | paulswm: I don't have vodka |
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| 22:50.19 | paulswm | Heh |
| 22:50.25 | abrotman | silverton: depends on the player |
| 22:50.28 | jethro | !win dondelelcaro |
| 22:50.29 | dpkg | Congratulations, dondelelcaro! You have won a one way ticket to Christmas Island! |
| 22:50.29 | SmallR2002 | I just got "<Monitor> http://www.sexyteens.gen.ms Free Porno Videos", you may wanna kill that person |
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| 22:50.32 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: uh, i want you to reinstall grep. Get the deb, unpack it, move the binary over. |
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| 22:50.36 | paulswm | !beer dondelelcaro |
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| 22:50.38 | ribnitz | silverton: does it link up via usb? |
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| 22:50.42 | veleno | zi |
| 22:50.44 | silverton | ribnitz, yes |
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| 22:50.46 | abrotman | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 22:50.51 | JohnnyST | abrotman: I just want raid, and I want it to be in hardware so that I do not need any special stuff in the kernel is that possible? |
| 22:50.53 | silverton | abrotman, which models work? I have yet to buy one |
| 22:50.56 | jethro | don't get him drunk |
| 22:51.01 | jethro | heh |
| 22:51.01 | ribnitz | silverton: whats it recognised as?-disk? |
| 22:51.05 | tnks | ribnitz: I tried altering the menu.lst to have the line "kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro clock=pit", but the clock part isn't registering. Is my syntax okay? |
| 22:51.09 | abrotman | silverton: oh .. i don't know ... just that it's player dependent .. google before buying |
| 22:51.10 | tarzeau | Ungy: /win 3 |
| 22:51.13 | [Elvis] | ok dondelelcaro ...I'll just let is finish the rest of the dist-upgrade |
| 22:51.21 | Rawplayer | !flame |
| 22:51.21 | dpkg | i heard flame is something people do on newsgroups or irc or when they yell at each other |
| 22:51.23 | [Elvis] | could take some time :P |
| 22:51.23 | silverton | ribnitz, I haven't bought one yet, but the last one I had, it didn't work, so I'm checking to see if they are supported yet |
| 22:51.27 | JohnnyST | abrotman: It is an Intel Xeon 3.0, 3.2, or 3.4 GHz processors (dual processor capability) with 1-MB level 2 cache standard. Processors include support for Hyper-Threading and Extended Memory 64 Technology (EM64T) |
| 22:51.29 | paulswm | dondelelcaro: So if you don't see straight, it won't be your specs :) |
| 22:51.31 | ribnitz | tnks: no idea, dnot know those kernel params |
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| 22:51.34 | Ungy | tarzeau /win 3? |
| 22:51.34 | abrotman | JohnnyST: it allows you to check the status of the raid arrays etc |
| 22:51.46 | abrotman | wtf was that ? |
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| 22:51.52 | abrotman | JohnnyST: so it is 64bit .. |
| 22:52.16 | abrotman | JohnnyST: like i said .. if you don't care about the status crap from the closed source crap .. you'll be fine |
| 22:52.16 | JohnnyST | abrotman, ok but if I do not want to check the status then I do not need the binary stuff right? |
| 22:52.25 | abrotman | JohnnyST: not afaik |
| 22:52.53 | ribnitz | silverton: I basically consider minidisc a dead format. IMO you are better off with a portable cd player that plays mp3/ogg.. or some harddisk-based solution. |
| 22:52.57 | abrotman | JohnnyST: i mean .. what would you like to know from the system about the status of the array? .. i mean .. you can have it turn on the alarm if it goes into degraded mode |
| 22:52.58 | JohnnyST | abrotman ok. |
| 22:53.14 | [Elvis] | k dondelelcaro which distro do you want me to use grep from? |
| 22:53.20 | silverton | ribnitz, cd media doesn't like me, nor do I like it, scratches too easily |
| 22:53.30 | abrotman | the right one |
| 22:53.32 | [Elvis] | stable/testing/unstable |
| 22:53.35 | silverton | and, I already have the media for a minidisc player |
| 22:53.42 | silverton | ~15 discs |
| 22:53.47 | JohnnyST | abrotman: Well ok then I think it should work ok I hope.. |
| 22:53.53 | abrotman | silverton: i have Beta tapes .. you can have them |
| 22:54.00 | silverton | and, harddisk-based players, are much too expensive |
| 22:54.00 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: from whatever distribution you're using. |
| 22:54.07 | silverton | abrotman, no thanks :) |
| 22:54.09 | abrotman | JohnnyST: i mean .. do you want me to ssh into the system and tell you anything about it ? |
| 22:54.24 | JohnnyST | abrotman: I do not have it here. |
| 22:54.25 | [Elvis] | well that's the problem dondelelcaro I'm not quite sure anymore |
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| 22:54.26 | ribnitz | abrotman: lemme guess, vhs won, despite that beta was the better format? |
| 22:54.29 | jethro | dondelelcaro: his problem is having mixed stable and unstable . he's trying to upgrade to sid only |
| 22:54.30 | [Elvis] | upgrading to sid now I think |
| 22:54.32 | Azar | [Elvis]: I beg you to read this three times: http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=2&tid=130 |
| 22:54.34 | abrotman | ribnitz: yes |
| 22:54.36 | JohnnyST | abrotman: I have not seen that system yet :) |
| 22:54.39 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: then install sid's grep. |
| 22:54.39 | silverton | ribnitz, precisely |
| 22:54.43 | abrotman | JohnnyST: i meant the system i worked on |
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| 22:55.13 | ribnitz | abrotman: same thing later on: winnt3.51 and os/2. |
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| 22:55.26 | abrotman | ribnitz: that's debatable |
| 22:55.26 | zumbi | !dpkg debconf5 |
| 22:55.31 | Azar | ...then, after you read that three times, go a clean fresh install, upgrade and live happy |
| 22:55.32 | JohnnyST | abrotman: Ah ok no I think it is ok I will see on sunday, I just want hardware raid thats it. |
| 22:55.50 | abrotman | JohnnyST: so far .. the system has been up and running for about a month .. no complaints afaik |
| 22:56.02 | ribnitz | abrotman: how many os/2 installations do you know? |
| 22:56.08 | JohnnyST | abrotman, Ok fine then I guess it should work here to.. |
| 22:56.16 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: debconf5 is <reply> debconf5 is the 6th Debian conference which will take place from July 10th to July 17th in Helsinki, Finland. Visit www.debconf.org for more details |
| 22:56.16 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 22:56.17 | abrotman | ribnitz: i haven't used it in a while .. but we have the CDs at work |
| 22:56.27 | ribnitz | abrotman: I do too. |
| 22:56.27 | JohnnyST | abrotman, thanks a lot for the info. |
| 22:56.29 | zumbi | !dpkg debconf5 |
| 22:56.30 | dpkg | debconf5 is the 6th Debian conference which will take place from July 10th to July 17th in Helsinki, Finland. Visit http://www.debconf.org for more details |
| 22:56.32 | abrotman | JohnnyST: np |
| 22:56.33 | zumbi | :) |
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| 22:56.39 | paulswm | dondelelcaro: you going? |
| 22:56.42 | dondelelcaro | paulswm: yes |
| 22:56.48 | abrotman | JohnnyST: and don't come back and kill me if it dies a horrible death :) |
| 22:56.53 | paulswm | !prize dondelelcaro |
| 22:56.54 | [Elvis] | ok I dpkg -i the package dondelelcaro ....just retry the dist-upgrade now? |
| 22:56.58 | paulswm | Wish I was. |
| 22:57.04 | Ugly_Duck | trying to build source.. its asking for gtk2.0+ is that libgtk2.0-0 |
| 22:57.07 | JohnnyST | abrotman: It will not by my system so :) |
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| 22:57.13 | abrotman | paulswm: i wish they'd have one in the states .. except all the damn laws .. grr |
| 22:57.18 | zumbi | i might be going too :-) |
| 22:57.20 | abrotman | JohnnyST: oh ok |
| 22:57.28 | abrotman | Ugly_Duck: -dev packages |
| 22:57.31 | ribnitz | silverton: If I was you, I'd opt for something harrdisc or flash based. |
| 22:57.40 | Ugly_Duck | abrotman: thanks |
| 22:57.42 | paulswm | abrotman: There's a law against debconfs in the States? |
| 22:58.02 | paulswm | Damn that Microsoft! |
| 22:58.05 | abrotman | paulswm: no .. but we have shitty laws .. people won't come here |
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| 22:58.22 | jethro | hah |
| 22:58.27 | abrotman | tarzeau: will you come to philly ? |
| 22:58.32 | silverton | ribnitz, like I said previously, a harddisk player is much too expensive, and flash drive players don't have much memory |
| 22:58.35 | zumbi | OBSD take the states out of the map |
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| 22:58.38 | abrotman | jethro: how bout youy? |
| 22:58.52 | abrotman | knowing all the crap involved |
| 22:58.55 | jethro | abrotman: not this year |
| 22:59.00 | paulswm | I bet ehy'd come if we had one here in Florida |
| 22:59.07 | abrotman | paulswm: philly! |
| 22:59.23 | [Elvis] | I've been in florida like 5 months ago :P damn boring place 8) |
| 22:59.24 | abrotman | paulswm: think about that .. a bunch of geeks in the sunshine state ? |
| 22:59.34 | zumbi | xDD |
| 22:59.38 | ribnitz | silverton: if that player registers as "usb storage" you are fine, if you find a way to put that into atrac.. |
| 22:59.39 | paulswm | We have geek stuff here like NASA and virtual roller coasters |
| 23:00.12 | abrotman | paulswm: we have like .. the Mutter museum :) |
| 23:00.12 | [Elvis] | dondelelcaro I did dpkg -i package.deb |
| 23:00.17 | [Elvis] | you want me to do it otherwise or? |
| 23:00.18 | abrotman | and franklin institute |
| 23:00.19 | paulswm | abrotman: HAHA |
| 23:00.21 | silverton | There should be a program out there that converts mp3/ogg -> atrac |
| 23:00.22 | abrotman | and .. lots of beer places |
| 23:00.28 | abrotman | paulswm: do you know what the mutter museum is ? |
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| 23:00.42 | zumbi | silverton, i have a script somewhere |
| 23:00.46 | abrotman | http://www.collphyphil.org/muttpg1.shtml |
| 23:00.51 | silverton | but, if that doesn't work, I'll prolly just have to use my dads PC |
| 23:01.03 | silverton | zumbi, oh yeah? |
| 23:01.04 | abrotman | paulswm: probably the grossest museum i've ever been in |
| 23:01.17 | FieldySnuts | @abuse abrotman |
| 23:01.17 | paulswm | abrotman: That looks cool, sorry, I had this idea it was something else. |
| 23:01.23 | [Elvis] | dondelelcaro it's still hanging on the grep part |
| 23:01.27 | jethro | why would "sudo chroot fuck/ /bin/bash" give me this error message? >> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 23:01.27 | ribnitz | silverton: what about a regular tape drive? |
| 23:01.33 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: why? |
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| 23:01.39 | silverton | ribnitz, eh... ? |
| 23:01.53 | jethro | nm |
| 23:01.56 | abrotman | when a museum says "View the Museum's new OB-GYN instrument collection databse, developed with a Museum Project grant from the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission." .. you know it's gonna be strange |
| 23:01.56 | poonj | hey guys..anyone here use sane? how do I know if I am using libusb? |
| 23:01.58 | ribnitz | silverton: "walkman, using audio casettes"? |
| 23:02.09 | poonj | I have usb capabilities built into the kernel and was recognized during bootup.. |
| 23:02.10 | silverton | ... |
| 23:02.14 | zumbi | silverton, take a look to this: http://linux.oldcrank.com/tips/mp3ogg/ |
| 23:02.15 | silverton | that's almost humorous |
| 23:02.25 | silverton | thank you zumbi |
| 23:02.27 | poonj | when I plug in my scanner, its recognized through sane-find-scanner |
| 23:02.34 | poonj | but then not when I go scanimage -L |
| 23:02.49 | abrotman | they had a lewis&clark exhibit when i was there .. showing all the weird food/diseases etc from thier grip |
| 23:02.51 | abrotman | trip |
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| 23:03.24 | Ungy | abrotman sounds like a great place |
| 23:03.34 | abrotman | Ungy: wasn't my idea to go |
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| 23:03.52 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: it will hang until you've got the proper grep installed. |
| 23:03.54 | paulswm | Anyway, I envy dondelelcaro , I don't know when I'll visit my home country or any of Europe again |
| 23:03.59 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: which architecture is this? |
| 23:04.29 | Tomek | hi, how can i find out, if and which packages I've installed from non-free and/or contrib? |
| 23:04.29 | [Elvis] | dondelelcaro you want me to install it with dpkg - i package.deb right? |
| 23:04.29 | abrotman | paulswm: i hear there's a cage waiting for you :) |
| 23:04.33 | Ungy | abrotman currently a special exhibit on conjoined twins??? |
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| 23:04.44 | abrotman | Ungy: that was there when i went .. kind of odd |
| 23:04.48 | paulswm | abrotman: I *hope* you are not referring to perfy |
| 23:04.53 | abrotman | paulswm: heh :) |
| 23:05.12 | dondelelcaro | Tomek: vrms will tell you |
| 23:05.13 | abrotman | Ungy: just a small one though |
| 23:05.20 | [Elvis] | i386 dondelelcaro |
| 23:05.28 | Ungy | damn I hope there is an update to fix myproblem over the weekend or I will ahve to freaking reinstall again |
| 23:05.28 | FieldySnuts | god xmms is stupid. hit an entry in an m3u that doesn't exist, then you can't go back to any item before it |
| 23:05.46 | disasm | i just got my new laptop in the mail, and i thought i would give fc3 a try, but i'm already suffering from withdrawls, so does anyone know how difficult is to get atheros chipset wireless g card working in debian x86_64 |
| 23:05.46 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you have to hit it really really fast :) |
| 23:05.46 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: and what does md5sum /bin/grep return? |
| 23:05.57 | Ugly_Duck | wahooo... i think i have success atlast, all dependancies are met |
| 23:06.04 | abrotman | disasm: madwifi.sf.net |
| 23:06.12 | paulswm | Heh, you hit an entry that doesn't exist, and *xmms* is stupid :P |
| 23:06.16 | paulswm | j/k |
| 23:06.27 | [Elvis] | b957fb252c07bd559a091d169fcbe377 /bin/grep |
| 23:06.37 | dondelelcaro | ok, that's some random version of grep. |
| 23:06.47 | abrotman | doesn't match my sarge one |
| 23:06.56 | mtnman | hi don |
| 23:06.58 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: sup |
| 23:07.01 | FieldySnuts | md5badgersum |
| 23:07.06 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: dpkg-deb -x grep_foo_bar.deb .; |
| 23:07.16 | [Elvis] | k |
| 23:07.20 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: heading out to ca on mon |
| 23:07.24 | Ungy | ok rebooting into linux brb |
| 23:07.30 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: then mv ./bin/grep /bin/grep; then dpkg -i grep_foo_bar.deb; |
| 23:07.31 | paulswm | o.O |
| 23:07.33 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: cool |
| 23:07.38 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: looks like i'll make the bad meeting on wed. |
| 23:07.46 | [Elvis] | this is quite annoying since not even ls works anymore :P |
| 23:07.55 | Tomek | thx dondelelcaro |
| 23:08.21 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: heh. yeah, I think this weekend my friend is doing another of those "house in the park" things |
| 23:08.42 | disasm | abrotman: sweet, back to debian i go! |
| 23:08.42 | zumbi | "house in the park" ? |
| 23:08.53 | dondelelcaro | zumbi: house is a style of music |
| 23:08.58 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: oh? i almost made it out there for _this_ weekend. |
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| 23:09.03 | zumbi | ok, i get it |
| 23:09.13 | abrotman | disasm: also .. #debian-amd64 |
| 23:09.19 | dondelelcaro | zumbi: http://gallery.donarmstrong.com/2004/08_august/dirty_bird_20040808/ |
| 23:09.28 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: next weekend i will probably be in s. rosa for the harmony festival. |
| 23:09.43 | [Elvis] | done dondelelcaro |
| 23:09.51 | Ugly_Duck | Question: if you install some thing by source, when another release comes out, do you just build the source and over write the first install? or do you delete it first? |
| 23:09.52 | [Elvis] | want me to md5sum is again? |
| 23:09.57 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: yes. |
| 23:10.10 | zumbi | dondelelcaro, that's very cool, it's like a rave party, but during day |
| 23:10.13 | mtnman | ugly_duck: i suppose you could do either way. |
| 23:10.22 | dondelelcaro | Ugly_Duck: you just install the new version of the .deb; and the old stuff goes away. |
| 23:10.28 | Ugly_Duck | mtnman: ahh... okies, just making sure i dont stuff some thing up |
| 23:10.28 | [Elvis] | b957fb252c07bd559a091d169fcbe377 /bin/grep |
| 23:10.40 | [Elvis] | it's the same? |
| 23:10.49 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: yes, but he was talking about installing from source not .deb. |
| 23:10.56 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: what version of grep is this? from where are you installing it from? |
| 23:11.08 | abrotman | can he dpkg -l grep ? |
| 23:11.13 | [Elvis] | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/grep |
| 23:11.27 | abrotman | which architecture ? |
| 23:11.27 | dondelelcaro | on i386? |
| 23:11.35 | [Elvis] | yea |
| 23:12.03 | dondelelcaro | then something is seriously screwed. |
| 23:12.19 | [Elvis] | well I can't use ls, cp, rmdir .... so yes..it seriusly is :P |
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| 23:12.23 | zumbi | The MD5sum for grep_2.5.1.ds1-4_i386.deb is 68196ad14b098b0eb4b91f4a7cfa8ff2 |
| 23:12.27 | fas3r | Anybody have a DWL-G650 wireless card ... |
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| 23:12.41 | abrotman | zumbi: not on my box |
| 23:12.47 | dondelelcaro | if you followed my instructions exactly, you should have replaced grep with the copy from 2.5.1.ds1-4; which has an md5sum of 3e39a37478852cbc407a48cbb87742b1 /bin/grep |
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| 23:13.05 | jethro | dondelelcaro: didn't your instruction involve cp ? |
| 23:13.06 | [Elvis] | I put it in pastebin what I've done ok? |
| 23:13.13 | dondelelcaro | jethro: mvv |
| 23:13.13 | abrotman | zumbi: i think yours is broken too :) |
| 23:13.14 | paulswm | That's what my mdsum says |
| 23:13.16 | zumbi | abrotman, neither mine.. is what says [Elvis] grep's web page |
| 23:13.18 | jethro | ah right |
| 23:13.22 | abrotman | zumbi: oh ok |
| 23:13.29 | Ugly_Duck | xprintutil.h:42:34: X11/extensions/Print.h: No such file or directory |
| 23:13.32 | zumbi | abrotman, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgrep%2Fgrep_2.5.1.ds1-4_i386.deb&md5sum=68196ad14b098b0eb4b91f4a7cfa8ff2&arch=i386&type=main |
| 23:13.43 | Ugly_Duck | would that be xprt ? |
| 23:13.45 | abrotman | zumbi: and ? |
| 23:13.58 | abrotman | zumbi: oh .. for the package |
| 23:14.04 | paulswm | zumbi: you are looking at the mdsum of the package, not the installed binary |
| 23:14.05 | fas3r | yes no,??? |
| 23:14.05 | zumbi | yes :) |
| 23:14.06 | abrotman | zumbi: we meant the binary |
| 23:14.13 | abrotman | fas3r: probably .. do you know the chipset ? |
| 23:14.19 | zumbi | ups, ok |
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| 23:14.28 | fas3r | atheros |
| 23:14.29 | abrotman | fas3r: most of the 11g stuff is at prism54.org or madwifi.sf.net |
| 23:14.32 | abrotman | !madwifi |
| 23:14.33 | dpkg | hmm... madwifi is http://www.mattfoster.clara.co.uk/madwifi ,-faq.htm , or http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi , or #madwifi, or to install madwifi drivers built against standard Debian kernel images (sarge/sid only) see '/msg dpkg madwifi-install' |
| 23:14.39 | abrotman | fas3r: ^^ |
| 23:14.43 | [Elvis] | dondelelcaro http://pastebin.com/294855 |
| 23:14.50 | nonoo | Im trying to get my Dlink DWL-650+ working with this guide http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/debian/DWL-650+_Howto.html#Compile_the_driver_module_ and im having some issues. When I give the module-assistant pre it tells me "Package acx100-Source is not available, but is referred to by anther package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available form another source" could anybody provide some ins |
| 23:14.54 | fas3r | abrotman ye so know but i have a problem with the driver..... |
| 23:15.06 | abrotman | who wants to smack him first ? |
| 23:15.12 | deadcat | me |
| 23:15.17 | deadcat | what i do? |
| 23:15.29 | abrotman | [Elvis]: md5sum ./bin/grep ... !!! ggrrrr :( |
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| 23:15.49 | abrotman | unpack it .. do the md5sum on that one .. then move it |
| 23:16.05 | WiFiTux | Hi, how can i find files in my HD or / that are bigger than 50 MB? |
| 23:16.18 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: with find |
| 23:16.24 | abrotman | WiFiTux: man find |
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| 23:16.30 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: find / -size +50M; or similar. |
| 23:16.41 | K_Dallas | Q: After I log into my system thru a dm, gmd for instance, do I still have some resources used by the dm or it has done its job? thanks |
| 23:16.52 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: thanks. |
| 23:17.05 | WiFiTux | man abrotman |
| 23:17.07 | WiFiTux | :) |
| 23:17.11 | abrotman | !abrotman |
| 23:17.11 | dpkg | [abrotman] someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 23:17.16 | abrotman | oh crap |
| 23:17.27 | deadcat | !deadcat |
| 23:17.28 | abrotman | don't vote! |
| 23:17.33 | deadcat | haha. i am safe. |
| 23:17.37 | [Elvis] | linux-router:/etc/apt# md5sum ./bin/grep |
| 23:17.38 | [Elvis] | 3e39a37478852cbc407a48cbb87742b1 ./bin/grep |
| 23:17.44 | [Elvis] | that seams to work |
| 23:17.44 | Azar | what is to vote there? |
| 23:17.51 | [Elvis] | but the move doesn't work I suppose? |
| 23:17.53 | deadcat | Azar: etch out date |
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| 23:18.08 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: ok, then cp it; then check the md5sum once you've moved it. |
| 23:18.12 | fas3r | abrotman u use madwifi driver? |
| 23:18.16 | dondelelcaro | s/moved/copied/ |
| 23:18.16 | abrotman | fas3r: nope |
| 23:18.17 | abrotman | !u |
| 23:18.17 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 23:18.24 | [Elvis] | wel |
| 23:18.29 | [Elvis] | cp gives an error |
| 23:18.30 | [Elvis] | mv doesn't |
| 23:18.40 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: uh... what is this error? |
| 23:18.49 | deadcat | i think i am gonna get a prism54-usb card rather than the stupid airport 802.11b card. |
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| 23:19.21 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: the stupid man page says it is in 512 blocks. Doesn't mention about Kb or MB |
| 23:19.34 | deadcat | WiFiTux: read harder |
| 23:19.34 | dondelelcaro | rrr... M isn't going to work... you'll need to find / -size +$(expr 50 * 1024)k or something |
| 23:19.40 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: yeah, you need to use k |
| 23:20.02 | dondelelcaro | (probably with * escaped) |
| 23:20.15 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: info find; is more useful, frankly. |
| 23:20.17 | Azar | [Elvis]: if I were you I would install plain vanilla Woody and I would go with the beginner's manual: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/user/index.html#contents |
| 23:20.22 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: sucks, is there another way? |
| 23:20.35 | [Elvis] | dondelelcaro http://pastebin.com/294859 |
| 23:20.38 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: what? You just have to specify the size in kilobytes |
| 23:21.09 | dondelelcaro | HAHAHAHA |
| 23:21.17 | fas3r | WiFiTux do u use the madwifi driver? |
| 23:21.18 | dondelelcaro | ok, there's something seriously fucked there |
| 23:21.28 | abrotman | fas3r: #madwifi |
| 23:21.31 | [Elvis] | yeah I suppose so |
| 23:21.34 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: can you lsattr /bin/grep; ? |
| 23:21.37 | WiFiTux | fas3r: no |
| 23:21.41 | dondelelcaro | s/WiFiTux/[Elvis]/ |
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| 23:21.48 | WiFiTux | :| |
| 23:21.53 | fas3r | they are anybody i'm alone since 2h |
| 23:22.15 | [Elvis] | dondelelcaro no clues? |
| 23:22.25 | Comrade | I am having trouble with my video card and XFree86 |
| 23:22.35 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: can you lsattr /bin/grep; ? |
| 23:22.38 | Comrade | It says no screen found |
| 23:22.40 | Azar | what video card, Comrade? |
| 23:22.50 | Comrade | Diamond Viper ATI 9600XT |
| 23:23.05 | Comrade | does it go as ati, atimisc, vga, or what |
| 23:23.05 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: the fact of the matter is, copying a file with cp should not change the md5sum. You've either got screwed drives, or someone has compromised cp. |
| 23:23.08 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: first command you gave but with +5000K |
| 23:23.10 | [Elvis] | ----------------- /bin/grep |
| 23:23.21 | abrotman | md5sum cp! |
| 23:23.38 | Azar | ouch ATI out of my league |
| 23:23.44 | [Elvis] | you want me to md5sum cp? |
| 23:23.45 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: little k |
| 23:23.53 | xtension | dondelelcaro cp /etc/apt/bin/grep /bin/grep << |
| 23:24.01 | abrotman | 45fbe95f3acc3c6d5410381c1e67c756 /bin/cp |
| 23:24.05 | abrotman | from sarge |
| 23:24.09 | dondelelcaro | xtension: what about it? |
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| 23:24.17 | Azar | Comrade, did you tried debconf? |
| 23:24.22 | Comrade | Yes |
| 23:24.35 | Azar | Woody or Sarge, Comrade? |
| 23:24.37 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: just remember .. he's going to fix it .. we don't use linux :) |
| 23:24.42 | Comrade | woody |
| 23:24.42 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: yep |
| 23:24.43 | [Elvis] | d6b147e6a69e185e90e44254b634ba17 /bin/cp |
| 23:25.05 | zumbi | 45fbe95f3acc3c6d5410381c1e67c756 /bin/cp (sid) |
| 23:25.07 | xtension | dondelelcaro nm |
| 23:25.19 | abrotman | [Elvis]: are you actually using debian ? |
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| 23:25.32 | [Elvis] | yes :p |
| 23:25.36 | jair | todays day if I do ap-tget install gnome on my debain sarge, it will install gnome 2? |
| 23:25.44 | abrotman | jair: yes |
| 23:25.47 | zumbi | but knoppix or ubuntu [Elvis] ? |
| 23:25.49 | abrotman | !tell jair about install gnome |
| 23:25.50 | jair | it is possible install ximian? |
| 23:26.01 | xtension | dondelelcaro is it possible to repartition a dsik without reboot, and with the / fs on it ? |
| 23:26.01 | abrotman | jair: ximian still exists ? |
| 23:26.05 | jair | hahaha |
| 23:26.08 | [Elvis] | I installed this box like 4 years ago to run some stuff on |
| 23:26.19 | Azar | Comrade, you might wnat to upgrade to Sarge apt-get install aptitude then change all instances of "stable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to "sarge" then aptitude update, aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 23:26.23 | jair | abrotman: I think it is on novell. |
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| 23:26.33 | dondelelcaro | xtension: depends on the hardware |
| 23:26.35 | abrotman | jair: yes .. but does a gnome distribution from ximian still exist ? |
| 23:26.41 | Comrade | is that really necessary |
| 23:26.48 | jair | abrotman: hmmm don't know? |
| 23:26.51 | xtension | !beer me |
| 23:26.55 | [Elvis] | so, any more ideas? |
| 23:26.56 | Azar | Comrade, Sarge has more support for hardware |
| 23:27.00 | Comrade | ok |
| 23:27.04 | Comrade | so I'll do that first |
| 23:27.06 | abrotman | jair: i don't think it does |
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| 23:27.07 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: well, at this juncture it sure looks like the box has been compromised, or you've got bad hardware. |
| 23:27.14 | Azar | Comrade so you might get your card recognized automatically |
| 23:27.19 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: in either case, the solution is to take all of the data off, and reinstall. |
| 23:27.22 | jair | abrotman: but just as a ignorant on the gnome part? what exacly was ximian? |
| 23:27.47 | [Elvis] | well everyone was accusing me for mixing the stuff before..so that wasn't the problem? |
| 23:27.49 | abrotman | jair: they owuld package up gnome .. add some stuff . make it pretty |
| 23:27.51 | abrotman | !ximian |
| 23:27.51 | dpkg | [ximian] presumably pronounced like "simian", cos those boys have an obsession with monkeys. ask me about "rm ximian" to skip the foreplay. deb ftp://ftp.ximian.com/ximian/1.4beta1/distributions/debian unstable main, or extremely broken in woody/sid, install them at your peril, you will probably find yourself removing them later, or http://kt.zork.net/debian/dd20010328_28.html#5 |
| 23:27.52 | nonoo | I want to get this package: http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/acx100-source how do I modify my sources.list to find it? |
| 23:27.52 | xtension | dondelelcaro what about repartition debootstrap etc |
| 23:27.55 | abrotman | bah |
| 23:27.57 | jair | abrotman: I think that ximian is just the conbination of the oo,gaim,evolution right? |
| 23:28.00 | abrotman | jair: but apparently it's dead now |
| 23:28.27 | dondelelcaro | xtension: uh, debootstrap has nothing to do with repartitioning |
| 23:28.27 | abrotman | jair: not even close |
| 23:28.27 | [Elvis] | damn this sucks |
| 23:28.28 | jethro | [Elvis]: mixing stable and unstable is *never* a good idea |
| 23:28.28 | Azar | [Elvis]: you are running sid and most likely you got broken dependencies, you are f**ed |
| 23:28.29 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: he uses linux .. stfu n00b! :) |
| 23:28.29 | xtension | dondelelcaro but that will give a new fs to boot from |
| 23:28.38 | Azar | hehe |
| 23:28.39 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: not the ultimate problem, no. But that doesn't mean that it wasn't a contributing factor. |
| 23:28.58 | [Elvis] | hmm so there are no more options? |
| 23:28.58 | jair | dpkg: so that is a ximian version for SID? |
| 23:29.00 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, jair |
| 23:29.01 | jair | sid |
| 23:29.02 | dondelelcaro | xtension: uh, no, it won't. It will just bootstrap a root partition. It won't install a bootloader, or repartition drives, or anything. |
| 23:29.13 | jair | abrotman: so what was then? |
| 23:29.16 | Comrade | [Azar]: How will it automatically recognize it? I'm configuring XFree86. |
| 23:29.24 | jair | abrotman: short explanation? |
| 23:29.42 | abrotman | jair: i told you .. look above |
| 23:29.42 | jair | abrotman: I do not need a lot of details. |
| 23:29.43 | abrotman | jair: /lastlog jair |
| 23:29.46 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: if you know enough to do a proper forensics job on the machine, yes... but that's quite a bit beyond the time that I (or anyone else here) is willing to spend without putting you on an hourly rate. |
| 23:29.54 | Azar | Comrade: upgrading to Sarge is a good idea, as Sarge goes OFFICIAL monday |
| 23:29.56 | jair | abrotman: ohh |
| 23:29.58 | jair | i see |
| 23:30.08 | dondelelcaro | Azar: s/goes/is projected to go/ |
| 23:30.24 | dondelelcaro | Debian doesn't make release deadlines. We make release projections. |
| 23:30.39 | Azar | ah |
| 23:30.41 | abrotman | Azar: no hard deadlines . it's ready when it's ready |
| 23:30.42 | Azar | oh ok |
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| 23:30.51 | schue | [Elvis]: get a bootable cd and pull off what you need. |
| 23:30.51 | [Elvis] | hmm |
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| 23:31.02 | schue | [Elvis]: then reinstall and copy your data back on. |
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| 23:31.05 | Azar | but master dondelecaro, it is like it is ready right? |
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| 23:31.08 | [Elvis] | yeah I'll have to extend the length of my arm a bit |
| 23:31.14 | abrotman | and as of this AM .. RC bugs are UP!!! |
| 23:31.26 | Azar | yes yes right |
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| 23:31.46 | Azar | Comrade, since Sarge is "due to be official soon" is like it is official |
| 23:32.01 | swim | hey, I need to install deb on a drive that is connected to ide 3... raid/ata other distros seem to recognize it as a regular ide drive but sarge doesnt... anyone know anoything about this? |
| 23:32.26 | abrotman | Azar: stop saying that :) |
| 23:32.33 | Azar | ok :) |
| 23:32.36 | [Elvis] | omg... |
| 23:32.44 | schue | swim: does it see it in dmesg? |
| 23:32.48 | [Elvis] | but cp has the correct checksum right? |
| 23:32.54 | swim | schue, in sarge installer |
| 23:33.00 | Azar | Comrade, getting Sarge is like getting more support for hardware without being "sid" |
| 23:33.06 | abrotman | wtf |
| 23:33.12 | Solet-deb | is there a way i can mount a directory reached through ftp? |
| 23:33.13 | schue | swim: hit alt-f2 or whatever. |
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| 23:33.30 | poonj | hey guys.. |
| 23:33.33 | swim | oh for a boot prompt maybe |
| 23:33.37 | poonj | is there a feature in the kernel for usbdevfs? |
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| 23:33.53 | jhughes | If install sarge today and then sarge becomes stable, can I get stable security updates for it? Or do I have to wait until Sarge becomes stable and then install it? |
| 23:33.56 | schue | swim: should give you a shell... |
| 23:34.00 | Azar | hi maser nvz |
| 23:34.02 | schue | see if /var/log/dmesg exists. |
| 23:34.07 | Azar | master* |
| 23:34.14 | surreal | for about a period of a month my cpu would overheat under heavy load, so i got a zalman fan and it doesnt overheat now but runs pretty sluggishly... it's a p4 do you guys think i fried my proc? |
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| 23:34.31 | [Elvis] | have you ever seen this before dondelelcaro :P |
| 23:34.32 | [Elvis] | linux-router:/etc/apt# ls |
| 23:34.32 | [Elvis] | Segmentation fault |
| 23:34.40 | schue | surreal: no dude. you just have to install gentoo. |
| 23:34.42 | nvz | jhughes: security updates usually become available 30days or so before its actually stable, and if you use it, you can get them whenever they are available |
| 23:34.42 | [Elvis] | quite funny 8) |
| 23:34.46 | surreal | lol schue |
| 23:34.50 | surreal | windows runs sluggishly |
| 23:34.51 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: yes. |
| 23:34.54 | surreal | everything does |
| 23:34.57 | schue | surreal: sounds bad. |
| 23:35.04 | Ungy | surreal, fried no or it wouldn't work however permenantly damaged yes |
| 23:35.24 | surreal | its 3ghz 512mb ram radeon AIW, i mean this thing should run beautifully |
| 23:35.24 | nvz | [Elvis]: you were having problems with gzip, and now ls.. you are most likely rooted |
| 23:35.27 | furrywolf | elvis: obvious guesses would be bad ram, bad motherboard, some other bad compoment, a h4x0red box (quite likely), or a severely/oddly corrupted file system. |
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| 23:35.33 | surreal | is there a way to test how damaged it is? |
| 23:35.37 | abrotman | nvz: or massive hardware failure |
| 23:35.49 | nvz | abrotman: hello |
| 23:35.49 | Ungy | surreal, actually no you don;t have enough ram for that processor |
| 23:35.53 | surreal | i would guess rooted with ls problems |
| 23:35.56 | abrotman | nvz: how's toronto ? |
| 23:35.56 | jethro | or sid has been a naughty boy |
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| 23:35.59 | Solet-deb | surreal: you may have done some damage... i'd google around for a program that will monitor the EXACT number of hertz your processer does... and compair that to what it is supposed to do (a 1.8 mhz will rarely do exactly 1,800,000 hz it usually varries by atleast a couple thousand |
| 23:35.59 | nvz | heh |
| 23:36.07 | jhughes | nvz: So there is no reason to wait for Sarge to beome stable? I won't have to do anything when they release Sarge as stable on monday (I believe?) |
| 23:36.09 | clc | anyone know any reason my mouse would just hang after a few minutes with X? |
| 23:36.11 | dondelelcaro | surreal: the other explanation is libc6 schmerkinized |
| 23:36.13 | nvz | abrotman: I couldnt tell you, I've never been. |
| 23:36.15 | clc | in sarge |
| 23:36.25 | abrotman | nvz: hey .. it was just as good of a guess as anywhere else :) |
| 23:36.32 | dondelelcaro | jhughes: sarge already has security updates, so no, there's no real reason to. |
| 23:36.33 | Ungy | clc wrong mouse driver? |
| 23:36.37 | nvz | jhughes: heh, sarge release date was 9/15/04 IIRC |
| 23:36.40 | abrotman | jhughes: install it now .. beat the crowd |
| 23:36.42 | ruied | how can I remotely control xmms on a Windows machine? I would like to export just the xmms aplication to be viewed in a windows machine (just xmms, not the entyre X window system) |
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| 23:36.59 | clc | well it works |
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| 23:37.00 | dondelelcaro | jhughes: about the only conceivable reason is to help test the woody->sarge migration, but if you're not familiar with Debian, you won't be of too much assistance there. |
| 23:37.00 | [Elvis] | what version = f3b5b05102055ddf7076de997b4242a8 /bin/mv <-- can anyone tell me ? |
| 23:37.00 | clc | then it dies |
| 23:37.01 | nvz | abrotman: haha.. smart ass |
| 23:37.01 | swim | schue, dmesg seems to see PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller etc... but thats all |
| 23:37.23 | paulswm | hey, xtension : still waiting: "<xtension> [Elvis] i fix this dont worry, there s a lot of dumb asshole here who think they run linux" |
| 23:37.25 | Azar | ruied it is the first time I hear "xmms" and "windows" , not aware if xmms runs in windows |
| 23:37.31 | jhughes | Thanks. |
| 23:37.35 | Ungy | [Elvis] Seriously give it up reinstall |
| 23:37.36 | nvz | abrotman: I was working on getting a house.. but my wallet came up a little too short. |
| 23:37.40 | surreal | ungy: 512 isnt enough ram? |
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| 23:37.48 | abrotman | nvz: leather ? .. stretch it out! |
| 23:37.50 | Ungy | surreal, not for that processor |
| 23:37.52 | xtension | yes paulswm you are a nice kid |
| 23:37.56 | abrotman | what cpu ? |
| 23:37.57 | Solet-deb | surreal: why did you spend the money on a p4 3ghz? for the same money you coulda got an althlon 64 3400+ and had a 2.2ghz cpu thats ready for 64bit operating systems, can run 32's no problem, and its amd which makes it sexier |
| 23:37.57 | Comrade | [Azar]: When you said change all instances of "stable" to "sarge", do you mean "woody" to "sarge"? |
| 23:38.02 | clc | maybe i should use /dev/input/mice instead of /dev/psaux |
| 23:38.02 | nvz | abrotman: its so old it would sooner rip |
| 23:38.06 | ecobit_ | how do i fully extract a .deb including the debian dir and control files? |
| 23:38.09 | Azar | Comrade: right |
| 23:38.10 | FieldySnuts | how is one ammount of ram enough for one processor, and that same ammount isn't for a different one? |
| 23:38.11 | surreal | reall i thought they were fairly independant... i got this p4 3ghz for like $200 i think |
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| 23:38.15 | surreal | it was a good deal |
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| 23:38.21 | Ungy | surreal, your essentially putting a V8 in there and putting a 1nanometer fuel line |
| 23:38.22 | abrotman | surreal: what's wron gwith your machine ? |
| 23:38.23 | Azar | but apt-get install aptitude FIRST, Comrade, |
| 23:38.23 | Solet-deb | surreal: aalso 512 is pretty skimpy for ram on a powerhouse machine, which i imagine thats what you're going for |
| 23:38.28 | jethro | !lart xtension |
| 23:38.34 | abrotman | oh come on .. 512MB is perfectly fine .. |
| 23:38.41 | surreal | just runs sluggishly... yah but it should be fine |
| 23:38.46 | surreal | 512 would be enough |
| 23:38.49 | abrotman | surreal: which desktop ? |
| 23:38.54 | paulswm | xtension: not a kid, actually |
| 23:38.56 | asuffield | winxp, presumably |
| 23:39.00 | FieldySnuts | depends what you do. most of the time my 512 is great. but when I load up 7 - 9 8.0MP (MP not MB) images at a time, i end up several hundred MB into swap |
| 23:39.01 | surreal | gnome but fluxbox runs faster |
| 23:39.02 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:39.03 | asuffield | that's the only thing which chews through 512Mb |
| 23:39.04 | Azar | excuse me I am running with 512 and I am very fine |
| 23:39.10 | Comrade | I did apt-get install aptitude |
| 23:39.15 | surreal | winxp is fluggish too not like it used to |
| 23:39.18 | surreal | sl* |
| 23:39.21 | Solet-deb | wtf is it with xtension thinking everyone is a kid.... |
| 23:39.23 | abrotman | surreal: i run gnome on a P4-2.4 with 768(was 256) .. perfectly wonderful |
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| 23:39.29 | Ungy | abrotman it is ok but you can't expect a 3.0 to get full performance on 512 |
| 23:39.37 | abrotman | Ungy: that's bullshit |
| 23:39.38 | surreal | well |
| 23:39.39 | ifvoid | Ungy: why not? |
| 23:39.39 | FieldySnuts | @troll Ungy |
| 23:39.40 | ecobit_ | anyone? |
| 23:39.42 | surreal | when i first built this thing |
| 23:39.45 | surreal | it ran awesome |
| 23:39.46 | FieldySnuts | yeah. it is BS. don't listen to Ungy. |
| 23:39.47 | surreal | now it doesnt |
| 23:39.51 | paulswm | xtension: you called us a lot of names and then just ran off, not a nice thing to do so I wanted to remind you of it. |
| 23:39.52 | surreal | ungy |
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| 23:40.06 | surreal | hi. |
| 23:40.07 | xtension | paulswm you are free to take it personally |
| 23:40.09 | Azar | Comrade: good now after you change to "sarge" all your links in /etc/apt/sources.file you do: aptitude update..... then aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 23:40.09 | ifvoid | surreal: with debian? |
| 23:40.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: philly as in philadelphia? |
| 23:40.12 | surreal | yes |
| 23:40.15 | abrotman | tarzeau: yeah |
| 23:40.20 | ecobit_ | how to extract the debian/ stuff from a .deb? |
| 23:40.24 | abrotman | surreal: are you runnin gthe amd64 distro ? |
| 23:40.26 | sepski | im online, and it's not costing me an arm and a leg anymore *yippie* :) |
| 23:40.28 | tarzeau | Ungy: was not for you /win 3 |
| 23:40.30 | surreal | i have a p4? |
| 23:40.31 | ifvoid | ecobit_: dpkg-source -x |
| 23:40.32 | surreal | so no? |
| 23:40.37 | ifvoid | ecobit_: but it's not in the deb |
| 23:40.43 | ifvoid | ecobit_: but in the diff.gz |
| 23:40.45 | Ungy | tarzeau, what is this /win 3? |
| 23:40.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: you've got a woman like fiona hefti at philadelphia? |
| 23:40.46 | abrotman | surreal: you have 64bit P4 ? |
| 23:40.46 | Solet-deb | abrotman: he accually has a point..... having only 512mb ram on a 3ghz cpu... the ram restrains its full capabilities |
| 23:40.51 | surreal | no? |
| 23:40.53 | abrotman | tarzeau: maybe |
| 23:40.55 | surreal | im not running 64bit |
| 23:40.56 | ifvoid | Solet-deb: bul |
| 23:40.58 | tarzeau | Ungy: command for my irc client; [01:40][tarzeau(+ei)][49:[Act: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,14,15,16,17,18,19,22,23,24,29,31,32,33,35,36,37,42,44,45,46,50,51,52] |
| 23:41.00 | abrotman | Solet-deb: no it doesn't |
| 23:41.00 | paulswm | xtension: I'm not, just still waiting for you to fix the problem like you said you could |
| 23:41.03 | FieldySnuts | god. so much BS in here tonight, i should get waders... |
| 23:41.03 | dondelelcaro | surreal: it totally depends on what you're doing. |
| 23:41.04 | abrotman | god .. that's such bull shit |
| 23:41.05 | ifvoid | Solet-deb: solely depends on what you use t for |
| 23:41.05 | FieldySnuts | un real. |
| 23:41.10 | xtension | paulswm well ... |
| 23:41.15 | dondelelcaro | s/surreal/Solet-deb/ |
| 23:41.17 | surreal | anyone ever hear of anything for linux that would measure hertz being produced by a cpu |
| 23:41.20 | [Elvis] | yeah ok, I agree this is reallt weird :P |
| 23:41.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: i doubt i'll go to the us , ever |
| 23:41.27 | xtension | paulswm if he had a free partition ... |
| 23:41.31 | surreal | im just really trying to figure out my performance issue |
| 23:41.32 | ifvoid | surreal: cat/ /proc/cpuinfo |
| 23:41.37 | abrotman | surreal: i'm not even using 512MB .. and i'm running Gnome right now |
| 23:41.37 | Ungy | tarzeau have no idea what you are talking about |
| 23:41.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: before that, rest of europe, russia/asia, australia... |
| 23:41.40 | surreal | no i mean at the current time |
| 23:41.41 | FieldySnuts | that doesn't show down to individual Hz |
| 23:41.45 | nvz | surreal: like a kernel? |
| 23:41.50 | tarzeau | Ungy: just forget it |
| 23:41.51 | ifvoid | FieldySnuts: who cares? |
| 23:41.56 | surreal | stuff runs fine, just under heavy load it lags |
| 23:41.59 | FieldySnuts | ifvoid: that's what he asked for, dick weed. |
| 23:42.01 | surreal | which it didnt before |
| 23:42.03 | ifvoid | FieldySnuts: it's not like it matters |
| 23:42.06 | nvz | ifvoid: appperently they do *shrug* |
| 23:42.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: was that an invitation? |
| 23:42.08 | FieldySnuts | @lart ifvoid |
| 23:42.08 | asuffield | FieldySnuts: it shows whatever the cpu bothered to claim, that's as accurate as you'll get |
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| 23:42.11 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts, ifvoid: just use /ingore. |
| 23:42.14 | [Elvis] | this is last pastebin I'll show you dondelelcaro http://pastebin.com/294865 <-- |
| 23:42.15 | paulswm | xtension: the moral of the story is don't call helpers names unless you are really sure that you know what you are doing. No hard feelings on my part, and I hope you have a pleasant night, I'm off now. |
| 23:42.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: i want a debconf in .us :) |
| 23:42.19 | FieldySnuts | i did before you said it :D |
| 23:42.25 | Ungy | I am not saying 512 is bad I run 512 but I can't even get full performance out of my 2.4 I need to get a bit more ram to really use my processor at peak or faster hard drives |
| 23:42.30 | surreal | no im not talking about at boot, im talking about current time hertz |
| 23:42.36 | abrotman | Ungy: that's total fucking bullshit |
| 23:42.37 | xtension | paulswm good night to you then |
| 23:42.39 | abrotman | god .. idiot |
| 23:42.40 | Azar | Comrade, after the upgrade you try get a nice kernel, with apt-cache kernel-image try get one for the cpu you are running you will see the list, so you get more boobst |
| 23:42.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: i prefer demoscene parties: |
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| 23:42.45 | FieldySnuts | Ungy: you are full of shit. cut it out. |
| 23:42.45 | Azar | boost* |
| 23:42.48 | paulswm | xtension: stay safe |
| 23:42.49 | poonj | anyone here get a scanner to work using sane? |
| 23:42.51 | FieldySnuts | gahh ignore. |
| 23:42.52 | Ungy | abrotman explain to me how that is bullshit? |
| 23:43.01 | surreal | yah ungy you really should do some research man |
| 23:43.04 | abrotman | Ungy: i'm running Gnome right now .. guess how much ram i |
| 23:43.13 | surreal | you dont seem to know how everything works together |
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| 23:43.19 | abrotman | Ungy: i'm running Gnome right now .. guess how much ram i'm using .. 440MB .. not even all fucking 768MB ... |
| 23:43.22 | dondelelcaro | Ungy: again, it totally depends on what you're doing. Overbroad generalizations are totally pointless. |
| 23:43.24 | nvz | It sucks you are all still here everyday, and I cant even find time to fart most days |
| 23:43.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: www.linuks.mine.nu/people/mekka/mekka.jpg |
| 23:43.32 | ecobit_ | ifvoid, that command doesn't work. |
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| 23:43.43 | FieldySnuts | nvz: not our fault you're too busy with BS |
| 23:43.45 | ecobit_ | it seems to want a .dsc file. i only have a .deb |
| 23:43.54 | abrotman | nvz: you should .. or get a big vacuum |
| 23:43.56 | nvz | FieldySnuts: yeah, I got myself into this mess |
| 23:44.00 | Ungy | dondelelcaro, I understand but if yoru expecting a P4 to scream you better damn well have the Memory buffer to support it |
| 23:44.02 | abrotman | tarzeau: is that your apartment ? |
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| 23:44.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: heh, not really |
| 23:44.15 | paulswm | Night buddies, you all stay safe |
| 23:44.16 | FieldySnuts | nvz: okay, at least you realize.. most tend to think everything is out of their control, when it actually is |
| 23:44.19 | dondelelcaro | Ungy: again, that's a rediculous overgeneralization. |
| 23:44.24 | abrotman | Ungy: did you even ask surreal to see how much swap he was using ? |
| 23:44.28 | FieldySnuts | er, actually is in their control |
| 23:44.36 | ifvoid | ecobit_: as I said |
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| 23:44.44 | abrotman | Ungy: no you didn't .. you just said it wasn't enough ram |
| 23:44.45 | ifvoid | ecobit_: the deb doesn't have the debian/* files |
| 23:44.46 | kelan | Ungy: if you want it to scream, you should forgo the harddrive and just get a 40gb ram bank |
| 23:44.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: i live here: www.soda.mine.nu/hochhaus/img_0034b.jpg |
| 23:44.51 | ifvoid | ecobit_: you need the sources for that |
| 23:44.57 | dondelelcaro | Ungy: there are plenty of applications which area memory bound, and plenty that are cpu bound. you increase both, until both are bound. |
| 23:44.58 | sparr_ | I made some RAID volumes using mdadm, and I want to start over. Completely, from scratch, as if I had not set up any arrays yet. What do I need to do? |
| 23:45.10 | abrotman | tarzeau: i peed there once |
| 23:45.14 | FieldySnuts | Ungy is either trolling or failed his A+ exam. |
| 23:45.31 | abrotman | or didn't pass the class to prepare for it :) |
| 23:45.43 | Ungy | dondecarlo how is it an over generalization it depends on what you use yoru computer for graphical intensive programs running on your system will chew up mass amounts of memmory What I said and still say to get the most out of your CPU you shoudl get more ram |
| 23:45.46 | dondelelcaro | tarzeau: what is that a picture of? |
| 23:45.49 | ecobit_ | ifvoid, okay, thanks |
| 23:45.53 | nvz | I like the kinds of tests you dont have to pay for if you fail :P |
| 23:45.57 | abrotman | surreal: if you run `free` .. how much Mem: is used ? .. and how much Swap: ? |
| 23:46.07 | nvz | not that I have ever failed a test in my life.. but |
| 23:46.08 | Ungy | FieldySnuts, yeah I failed my A+ exam sure thing |
| 23:46.11 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: blow out the partition table and first meg of the disk? (DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING) where X is each drive, one at a time, which is a member of that array: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/X bs=1M count=1 |
| 23:46.24 | FieldySnuts | should be good enough. cheap but works. |
| 23:46.30 | dondelelcaro | Ungy: again, it is totally dependent upon what you are doing. You had originally clamed that a p4 needed 512M to "perform" or some such. |
| 23:46.37 | [Elvis] | dondelelcaro |
| 23:46.41 | kelan | Ungy: its pointless to say "to get the most out of your ___, you should get more/better ___" because that can be said for any two given components |
| 23:46.44 | [Elvis] | linux-router:/etc/apt# md5sum /bin/grep |
| 23:46.44 | [Elvis] | 3e39a37478852cbc407a48cbb87742b1 /bin/grep |
| 23:46.48 | [Elvis] | better? |
| 23:46.50 | Ungy | dondecarlo that is not waht I claimed read up |
| 23:46.50 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: there are about a dozen arrays across 4 drives. can i kill them all with that? |
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| 23:46.59 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: one at a time yeah |
| 23:46.59 | nvz | well actually I failed my drivers exam in PA the first time.. they only let you miss 3, and I didnt at the time know "What is an anphetamine?" or "What does a flashing yellow X mean?" and some other tricky question |
| 23:47.04 | tarzeau | dondelelcaro: my castle |
| 23:47.13 | abrotman | nvz: you mean learner's permit exam ? |
| 23:47.18 | nvz | yep |
| 23:47.20 | dondelelcaro | Ungy: I'm quite capable of reading what you had written. Regardless, this whole line of questioning is OT. |
| 23:47.23 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: then ill need to repartition? |
| 23:47.31 | tarzeau | dondelelcaro: that's where www.linuks.mine.nu is home ;) |
| 23:47.35 | nvz | I passed the WV one the first time, they let you miss more, and their test was lame |
| 23:47.38 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: start from zero, as it sounded like you wanted |
| 23:47.38 | clc | why do you need to know what an anphetamine is to drive! |
| 23:48.00 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: you won't have an mbr or partition table at that point. |
| 23:48.04 | FieldySnuts | well, not a valid one. yet. |
| 23:48.22 | clc | why can't you just delete it with fdisk |
| 23:48.39 | nvz | I could have smoked a blunt at waiting in line for the test, and then drank a 40oz while taking the drivers test, and still had a new printed lisc in my hand within a few hours in WV |
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| 23:48.42 | FieldySnuts | because we're talking software raid here |
| 23:48.44 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: perfect, thanks |
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| 23:49.05 | xtension | [Elvis] sorry mate |
| 23:49.07 | lanchow | what do i need to play several sound at the same time, i heard about 'artsdsp' but it doesn't appear in apt-cache. |
| 23:49.14 | FieldySnuts | if youy know a better way go for it, that is how i start over with software raid (or any disk generally), if I am paranoid I will bcwipe it as well (have fun waiting a few days) |
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| 23:49.17 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: random question... could i use dd to copy the partition table from one drive to another? |
| 23:49.19 | [Elvis] | no problemo dude, thanks for the help anyways |
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| 23:49.36 | wrayal | anyone played with unionfs? |
| 23:49.42 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: yes, though I haven't tried that. dd if=/dev/X of=X.raw bs=512 count=1 |
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| 23:49.53 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: I definately haven't tried putting it back. |
| 23:49.54 | xtension | [Elvis] if you could repartion the disk without reboot ... |
| 23:49.55 | ifvoid | lanchow: it's in the libarts1 package |
| 23:49.56 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: the fact that you weren't able to cp properly earlier is still suspicious. while you could probably rescue the machine, the safest thing to do is just wipe it and reinstall. |
| 23:50.15 | FieldySnuts | what the heck happened to that machine? |
| 23:50.24 | FieldySnuts | @lart dynamic cp / mv / ls / etc |
| 23:50.36 | lanchow | ifvoid: thank you |
| 23:50.43 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: ever seen what happens when you microwave a tomato for 2 minutes ? |
| 23:50.43 | [Elvis] | ok what happend was I just did a dpkg-deb -x grep....deb /; |
| 23:50.43 | abrotman | :) |
| 23:50.53 | [Elvis] | so it installed in /bin/grep |
| 23:50.56 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: time to find out :) |
| 23:51.00 | kelan | does it blow up? |
| 23:51.00 | [Elvis] | it gave the correct md5sum then |
| 23:51.01 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: ok, well, do the same for coreutils; |
| 23:51.13 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: don't count on your data being there. backups if you care. |
| 23:51.22 | [Elvis] | but when I do dpkg -i grep.. then |
| 23:51.24 | dondelelcaro | [Elvis]: then see if you can dpkg -i; the grep deb without the md5sums being screwed up. |
| 23:51.26 | Ungy | exit |
| 23:51.26 | [Elvis] | the md5sum is back to the old |
| 23:51.34 | wrayal | ....no-one able to help me with unionfs? |
| 23:51.35 | [Elvis] | well I can't :P |
| 23:51.42 | FieldySnuts | rooted machine? |
| 23:51.46 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: unionfs? |
| 23:51.47 | abrotman | i'd say .. wouldn't you ? |
| 23:51.56 | FieldySnuts | chkrootkit / rkhunter |
| 23:51.57 | abrotman | !chkrootkit |
| 23:51.57 | dpkg | chkrootkit is known to generate false positives on recent (2.4.24 and 2.6.*) kernels - it will complain about a few "processes hidden from the ps command". |
| 23:51.57 | [Elvis] | the md5sum wil go back when I try to do that dondelelcaro |
| 23:52.05 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: brand new drives :) |
| 23:52.09 | Solet-deb | is there a way i can mount a directory reached through ftp? |
| 23:52.12 | abrotman | who is Lin2 ? |
| 23:52.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: ain't she nice? http://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/spass_und_freizeit/voting/images/102.jpg |
| 23:52.18 | FieldySnuts | Solet-deb: not that I know of |
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| 23:52.31 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'd go a round or two :) |
| 23:52.34 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: liquid nitrogen. 70K of liquid goodness. |
| 23:52.38 | bucky | Solet-deb, yes.. it's called samba |
| 23:52.39 | wrayal | nah, I apt-getted the source, but it refuses to build, throws about a thousand erros |
| 23:52.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: what that mean, a round or two going? |
| 23:52.42 | abrotman | tarzeau: the greek girl from the singing contest was hot |
| 23:52.47 | [Elvis] | I don't wanna format my baby :P |
| 23:52.47 | nvz | speaking of tests... I was thinking about taking some tests to become a certified electrician and contractor and get me a house here in the WV for a few years.. my cousin does roofing and construction and got some long contracts. But like today, I sometimes find my self standing around with a nickel holding a dollar up. start thinking about moving elsewhere again. |
| 23:52.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: hrm .. you think it means what ? :) |
| 23:52.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: my girlfriends are hot too: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/f8.jpg |
| 23:52.56 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: erm .. ok |
| 23:52.57 | Solet-deb | bucky: samba will mount an ftp? i thought it was just for smb |
| 23:53.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: oh, you're a nasty boy, honey |
| 23:53.06 | FieldySnuts | no, samba will not mount an "ftp" |
| 23:53.08 | abrotman | tarzeau: heh |
| 23:53.19 | FieldySnuts | smb and ftp protocols are entirely seperate |
| 23:53.25 | nvz | I spend more time here than any other one place. |
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| 23:53.31 | abrotman | tarzeau: do you know the greek girl i speak of ? |
| 23:53.34 | nvz | #debian is like home |
| 23:53.39 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah, what a biatch |
| 23:53.40 | Ungy | why the hell woudl you want to mount an ftp local |
| 23:53.44 | Solet-deb | FieldySnuts: i know thats why i didnt think samba could do it |
| 23:53.46 | bucky | Solet-deb, basically samba or Network Neighborhood or My Networking Places is a graphical representation of ftp |
| 23:53.47 | abrotman | tarzeau: she not hot ? |
| 23:53.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: you haven't seen my ex.. |
| 23:53.50 | sepski | Solet-deb, http://lufs.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:53.54 | bucky | that's an over simplification |
| 23:53.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: you know, it's hot if you can have her. not otherwise |
| 23:53.58 | abrotman | tarzeau: let's see? |
| 23:54.01 | sepski | support ftpfs and sshfs |
| 23:54.04 | FieldySnuts | bucky: no. you are wrong. and it's not just an over simplification. |
| 23:54.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: like the f8 one ;) |
| 23:54.10 | FieldySnuts | just going to confuse him. |
| 23:54.17 | tarzeau | abrotman: don't have a picture, but believe me she's damn good |
| 23:54.18 | bucky | @fuck FieldySnuts |
| 23:54.25 | Ungy | bucky omm I think you have to take into accounts the ports that those things run on |
| 23:54.29 | FieldySnuts | who triggered that? |
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| 23:54.36 | FieldySnuts | someone on my ignore list but who |
| 23:54.41 | nvz | FieldySnuts: bucky |
| 23:54.44 | Solet-deb | bucky |
| 23:54.45 | FieldySnuts | !irritate bucky |
| 23:54.46 | dpkg | bucky: wenas who uses sound lol |
| 23:55.18 | sparr_ | now /proc/mdstat says md0 is inactive, how can i delete it? i cant create a new md0 while it still exists |
| 23:55.22 | tarzeau | abrotman: i should shave more often |
| 23:55.27 | surreal | can you increase the size of a swap partition after creating it? |
| 23:55.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: my beard |
| 23:55.30 | FieldySnuts | raidstop /dev/md0 ? |
| 23:55.33 | FieldySnuts | or md0, been a while |
| 23:55.34 | tarzeau | surreal: sure |
| 23:55.36 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://tinyurl.com/dxa2v |
| 23:55.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: that greek girl |
| 23:55.42 | tarzeau | surreal: you can also make swap files |
| 23:55.48 | bucky | lufs is not ftp by any stretch of the imagination |
| 23:55.49 | poonj | hey guys |
| 23:55.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'll kill you if it's goatse! |
| 23:55.51 | FieldySnuts | (lost two 120GB drives to a bad power supply.. cough.. good lesson that raid does not replace backups ( which I had) |
| 23:55.52 | FieldySnuts | ) |
| 23:55.54 | poonj | anyone here use sane with a USB scanner? |
| 23:55.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: it is not |
| 23:56.03 | deadcat | poonj: ya. |
| 23:56.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: no i don't like her |
| 23:56.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: but a really long link :) |
| 23:56.07 | abrotman | tarzeau: not hot ? |
| 23:56.08 | Solet-deb | sepski: that link has an ftp mounter? |
| 23:56.12 | tarzeau | abrotman: no |
| 23:56.17 | poonj | hey deadcat, need your help! |
| 23:56.18 | tarzeau | abrotman: she's not sexy |
| 23:56.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh well |
| 23:56.23 | FieldySnuts | we already said, you can't "mount" an "ftp" |
| 23:56.27 | poonj | I'm using a memorex 48u |
| 23:56.27 | abrotman | !shfs |
| 23:56.27 | dpkg | from memory, shfs is http://shfs.sourceforge.net/ "Mount ANY dir from ANY host in the SECURE way"SHFS is a simple and easy to use Linux kernel (2.4+) module which allows you to mount remote filesystems using plain shell (ssh/rsh) connection. It supports some nice features like number of different caches for access speedup, target system optimisations, etc. |
| 23:56.30 | jair | if I have kde 3.3 and I would like to upgrade for the next version? |
| 23:56.32 | FieldySnuts | just use a damn ftp client and be done with it |
| 23:56.33 | deadcat | poonj: just plug it in. (= if it doesnt work. i dont know hehe |
| 23:56.34 | abrotman | which .. is kind of cool :) |
| 23:56.35 | jair | 3.4 |
| 23:56.37 | poonj | whheh |
| 23:56.38 | sepski | Solet-deb, ftpfs is a project that did that, but the ftpfs page saies that lufs have taken over |
| 23:56.40 | poonj | okay... |
| 23:56.45 | poonj | thanks deadcat |
| 23:56.47 | jair | or 3.4 is not available for sarge yet? |
| 23:56.48 | nvz | poonj: just ask your questions, dont single people out |
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| 23:56.55 | poonj | okay |
| 23:56.56 | sparr_ | FieldySnuts: ive still got /dev/md0 "inactive", i need to get rid of it |
| 23:57.06 | FieldySnuts | sparr_: no clue |
| 23:57.11 | bucky | Solet-deb, write your own program to mount ftp |
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| 23:57.21 | surreal | tarzeau: how? and what do you mean by "swap files" just empty files that can be used as swap space? |
| 23:57.25 | Dict_02x | hi, Is there any utility to mount .cue images in debian ? |
| 23:57.27 | Solet-deb | bucky: not a programmer |
| 23:57.28 | deadcat | poonj: i have a umax usb. it works ok. |
| 23:57.30 | FieldySnuts | i bet it takes an edit of raidtab (comment it all out?) then rebooting, though. |
| 23:57.40 | Dict_02x | I mean, bin/cue CD images |
| 23:57.42 | TwistedLappy | Uhhh... is unstable worse or sid? Or are they the same? |
| 23:57.44 | nvz | poonj: if its not solved here, try mailing lists, you can often get good advice, in higher volumes from email.. and it doesnt really take all that long for things that arent urgent. |
| 23:57.47 | poonj | I'm trying to setup my memorex 48u USB scanner. I am trying to use libusb to get it working. When I use sane-find-scanner, it finds the scanner. However, when I try it with scanimage -L, it can't find anything...am I doing something wrong? |
| 23:57.47 | tarzeau | surreal: kinda, large file with mkswap on it |
| 23:57.48 | abrotman | TwistedLappy: same |
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| 23:57.49 | ifvoid | Dict_02x: they can be converted to a sane format |
| 23:57.50 | FieldySnuts | Dict_02x: nope |
| 23:57.52 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: same shit. |
| 23:57.54 | ifvoid | Dict_02x: like iso or mpeg |
| 23:57.59 | nvz | not that you should ever seek free support when you are in a hurry |
| 23:58.03 | Solet-deb | this channel needs more ops... |
| 23:58.07 | bucky | TwistedLappy, the semester is over and you failed |
| 23:58.07 | abrotman | why? |
| 23:58.09 | FieldySnuts | no it doesn't |
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| 23:58.09 | ifvoid | Dict_02x: but I forgot the name of the util that does that |
| 23:58.11 | ifvoid | lemme check |
| 23:58.11 | sepski | Solet-deb, ftpfs.sf.net for the orginal ftpfs page |
| 23:58.12 | Dict_02x | ifvoid, I have a cue image.... how can I get the stuff that is inside |
| 23:58.14 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: damn thinking about getting this usb card: http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys/i/2005/06/03/10709.html it might work on linux. |
| 23:58.16 | nvz | Solet-deb: no, there are plenty here right now |
| 23:58.18 | surreal | tarzeau, how can i increase the size of my current swap partition? |
| 23:58.21 | abrotman | they need more that are here more often :) |
| 23:58.25 | FieldySnuts | @fuck windows warez kids using bin/cue |
| 23:58.27 | Dict_02x | ifvoid, in fedora I have used bin2iso... but I can find a suitable version for debina |
| 23:58.30 | abrotman | er ones they have to be here more often :) |
| 23:58.30 | ifvoid | Dict_02x: ah, bchunk |
| 23:58.32 | Dict_02x | ** debain |
| 23:58.33 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: abrotman: kk... just looking at a website and they have them listed seperately for osme reason |
| 23:58.33 | nvz | abrotman: yeah really |
| 23:58.39 | Dict_02x | ifvoid, bchunk..... let me see |
| 23:58.44 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: symlink'ed |
| 23:58.44 | sepski | surreal, repartition, mkswap swapon, or simpler just add a second swap partition. |
| 23:58.47 | jair | abrotman: to install 3.4 kde I have to uninstakk kde 3.3? |
| 23:58.48 | tarzeau | surreal: you can delete the current, and make a larger partition? |
| 23:58.51 | abrotman | nvz: only ones i see anymore are bob,gc,don |
| 23:59.00 | Dict_02x | ifvoid, ok.... seems that its downloading |
| 23:59.04 | jair | abrotman: or it is simple not available for sarge yet? |
| 23:59.08 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: Whote are you getting? |
| 23:59.11 | abrotman | jair: not available |
| 23:59.15 | Dict_02x | thanks ifvoid |
| 23:59.18 | jair | ohhh ok |
| 23:59.20 | nvz | abrotman: hmm.. people are busy.. its summertime, the livin is easy |
| 23:59.21 | sepski | jair: it's in the topic |
| 23:59.23 | ifvoid | Dict_02x: yw |
| 23:59.24 | TwistedLappy | deadcat: airlink+ or airlink101? |
| 23:59.24 | abrotman | jair: it is .. but not officially |
| 23:59.31 | abrotman | nvz: if only that were the reason |
| 23:59.39 | Ungy | is 5 gig swap too big? |
| 23:59.44 | tarzeau | Ungy: yes |
| 23:59.44 | ifvoid | Ungy: no |
| 23:59.47 | abrotman | Ungy: how much ram ? |
| 23:59.49 | surreal | cfdisk cant resize already allocated space can it? because all my space is used id have to take some space from one of my current partitions |
| 23:59.51 | tarzeau | Ungy: 2gb is the limit, no? |
| 23:59.54 | abrotman | Ungy: and machine's purpose ? |
| 23:59.55 | deadcat | TwistedLappy: 101. thinking. the + is useless shit. i had that before. sold it for $15 or $14. it was $15 at frys |
| 23:59.55 | ifvoid | Ungy: you need at least 25GB |
| 23:59.55 | abrotman | tarzeau: no |
| 23:59.56 | nvz | abrotman: heh. yeah livin isnt easy for me, I am practically living out of a car I dont even own |
