| 00:00.04 | jasonr | directhex: is there a new version of nvidia packaged?.... |
| 00:00.20 | jim | kmalloc: for the future... ALWAYS check to see if ANY new hardware you buy is compatible to and fully supported by the operating systems you want to install |
| 00:00.42 | jasonr | GuHaSe: i wouldnt...gcc4 isnt in debian yet....but thats just me i dont know the underlying issues but id say it would be major between 3.X and 4 |
| 00:00.43 | directhex | chealer-brain, no, you can't have several packages all providing an nvidia.ko in the same location |
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| 00:00.58 | kmalloc | jim, yes my new hardware is compatible with Linux/Unix |
| 00:01.18 | witless | OOo2 in experimental |
| 00:01.21 | Shadda` | okay...I need a little extra help, being the special person that I am....I'm running this nix box off a second NAT coming from a windows PC (Internet Connection Sharing) |
| 00:01.40 | kmalloc | jim, i have one other disc (sata 80gb) in other box |
| 00:01.43 | jasonr | kmalloc: you cant get your sata to detect? |
| 00:01.48 | eeyore- | shaddo: that's bass-ackwards |
| 00:01.53 | eeyore- | Shadda`: ^^ |
| 00:01.54 | Shadda` | yeah tell me about it |
| 00:01.57 | jim | kmalloc: your short-term/least work solution is to use a different dist |
| 00:02.08 | Shadda` | but windows networking is...less than intuitive |
| 00:02.14 | directhex | jim, don't let streuner hear you |
| 00:02.14 | Shadda` | this was the best thing I could jury-rig |
| 00:02.24 | kmalloc | jasoncohen, yes BIOS detect sata discs |
| 00:02.35 | jim | directhex: I don't hear streuner. ever. |
| 00:02.45 | eeyore- | Shadda`: you mean unix networking is less than intuitive? otherwise, why would you purposely do something that's less intuitive? |
| 00:02.52 | kmalloc | jasonr, yes bios detect my sata discs |
| 00:02.56 | eeyore- | Shadda`: anyhow, what's the problem? |
| 00:02.57 | Kupal[] | i hate the route command in windows its *almost* completely useless... |
| 00:03.00 | jim | so it's totally irrelevent whether he hears me. |
| 00:03.05 | jasonr | kmalloc: check the bios...sometimes you can set them to mimic IDE....i had to use one setting for it to detect in netinst and then swap it back to make it boot on my ch6 sata |
| 00:03.08 | Shadda` | sec...I had a question but I may have answered it myself |
| 00:03.14 | eeyore- | Kupal[]: name one windows command that isn't completely worthless |
| 00:03.15 | Kupal[] | !distwar |
| 00:03.24 | Kupal[] | eeyore: format |
| 00:03.28 | Kupal[] | eeyore:fdisk |
| 00:03.35 | eeyore- | Kupal[]: i guess "dir" is one of them |
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| 00:03.39 | Kupal[] | eeyore:deltree was good but then it died... |
| 00:03.43 | Shadda` | ok... |
| 00:03.51 | Kupal[] | they are all good for deleting windows. |
| 00:03.54 | met | hello, anyone running sarge with elinks installed? |
| 00:03.56 | directhex | Kupal[], you can use del /s now |
| 00:03.57 | Shadda` | the windows box gateway is 192.168.0.1...the actuall IP is 192.168.1.110...do I give the gateway or the actuall IP (I tried both, actually...says mount point does not exist) |
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| 00:04.25 | jasonr | kmalloc even after that i still need to rebuild the kernel with ide and sata built in to work correctly....stupid PIIX clashes |
| 00:04.28 | eeyore- | Shadda`: rephrase the question. you didn't give enough details. |
| 00:04.32 | Kupal[] | directhex: doesn't delete the directory structure, only the files in the sub directorys.. unless i fubared that up. |
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| 00:04.41 | kmalloc | jasonr, ok. So debian sarge 3.1 (lasted version) support sata discs in debian-installer? |
| 00:04.55 | directhex | kmalloc, depends on the disk controller. what's your disk controller? |
| 00:04.55 | eeyore- | Shadda`: generally speaking, you use the IP address on "your side" of the network, never on "the other side" |
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| 00:05.03 | Shadda` | ok...I need to mount a network share. specifically, a folder on the windows PC that this debian box is directly networked to. |
| 00:05.13 | GuHaSe | how come when i run this " perl -MCPAN -e "install XML::DOM", it says 0.00% okay... and fails the test |
| 00:05.16 | eeyore- | Shadda`: so if your router has two IP address, and one is on your LAN, use that IP. never use the real IP on the external interface |
| 00:05.17 | directhex | kmalloc, and you definitely need to boot with a 2.6 kernel (linux26 at the boot prompt) for any proper sata support |
| 00:05.18 | GuHaSe | is there anyway to fix that? |
| 00:05.20 | Shadda` | the debian pc is 192.168.0.114, running off a second NAT from the windows box |
| 00:05.25 | jasonr | kmalloc: yes under linux26 at boot...you wimay need to tweak bios for it tho |
| 00:05.28 | eeyore- | Shadda`: wait wait wait ... |
| 00:05.45 | jim | directhex: that's just the way it is... he will have to do a lot of work in order to get 2.6.11 on his box unless either (a) he installs a supported HD controller, (b) he uses a dist whose installer supports his disk hardware or (3) there exists a debian-installer image with a later kernel that does support his disk hardware |
| 00:05.47 | eeyore- | Shadda`: you *not only* make windows do NAT for you, you *also* have network shares on the internet-facing Windows PC? |
| 00:05.52 | eeyore- | Shadda`: that's just plain disgusting |
| 00:05.56 | Shadda` | :) |
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| 00:06.07 | Shadda` | I aim to please |
| 00:06.25 | directhex | jim, you're preaching to the converted more than you could possibly imagine |
| 00:06.29 | Shadda` | I know next to nothing about networking. I can configure my router to forward my ports. that's about it. |
| 00:06.42 | Shadda` | IdontlikeGentoo, I like your name. |
| 00:06.54 | directhex | you do? seems childish to me |
| 00:06.54 | eeyore- | IdontlikeGentoo: hey, i *like* gentoo |
| 00:06.54 | ttick | directhex: okay, installed gnome-volume-manager. But I can't find out where it mounted my usb drive when I plugged it in. Got some /var/log/messages about readonly configuration files, but can't find the mountpoint. Where should I look? |
| 00:06.56 | Supaplex | GuHaSe: apt-cache show dh-make-perl |
| 00:07.01 | jasonr | shadda: load something like firestarter....gui iptables configurator |
| 00:07.12 | directhex | ttick, make sure your user is in the "plugdev" user group |
| 00:07.13 | Shadda` | I just have a lot of trouble with gentoo... |
| 00:07.17 | jim | kmalloc: the easiest/least work for debian right now is to determine if (3) is true |
| 00:07.20 | directhex | ttick, if so, it'll be mounted in /media/ |
| 00:07.32 | met | is anyone here running sarge and has elinks installed? |
| 00:07.33 | directhex | jim, what disk controller is he using? |
| 00:07.35 | Shadda` | Unless you're running the most generic namebrand hardware there's no friggin way you'll ever get it installed without a stage3 |
| 00:07.38 | IdontlikeGentoo | I think gentoo should be renamed ToyLinux then ill have no probs |
| 00:07.40 | eeyore- | Shadda`: with a little effort, you could make linux do routing for you and still keep it secure from prying eyes |
| 00:07.45 | jim | directhex: dunno, he has a dell poweredge |
| 00:07.57 | eeyore- | Shadda`: speak for yourself, i have gentoo running on all sorts of hardware |
| 00:08.01 | directhex | jim, model? |
| 00:08.10 | jim | he said the model before |
| 00:08.16 | tam_ | how do you specify roots $PATH and make it perm? |
| 00:08.19 | jasonr | dell sata is fucked up... |
| 00:08.24 | eeyore- | Shadda`: you want dual opteron? yep, stage1 install. you want SMP athlons? yep, stage1 install |
| 00:08.30 | ttick | directhex: hmm, I wasn't in that group the first time Idid it. and reinserting didn't give me the messages. Odd. Anyway, how does gvm know which logged in user inserted the usbdrive? |
| 00:08.36 | eeyore- | Shadda`: you want SATA? yep, stage1 as well. |
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| 00:08.42 | jasonr | it works but its a recompile kernel fix atm..if its the same issue as the server boards are gettign |
| 00:08.45 | Shadda` | take my WLAN crap for instance... |
| 00:09.00 | GuHaSe | Supaplex, mind if i pm? |
| 00:09.01 | directhex | kmalloc, i don't have a very big scrollback |
| 00:09.11 | resiak | directhex: Why not?!11 |
| 00:09.13 | eeyore- | Shadda`: yep, got gentoo working with prism2, prism54, and other cards too |
| 00:09.22 | Supaplex | GuHaSe: just ask here, someone else may benifit |
| 00:09.28 | jim | directhex, "kmalloc jim, I buy a new server Dell Power Edge 420SC with two sata hard drive 80gb (non-raid)" |
| 00:09.36 | Shadda` | using that livecd...unless i have prism drivers (oh, actually, there's a known bug on that cd, and you have to actually bust open the iso and change crap to fix it) you will never get it working pre-install |
| 00:09.40 | eeyore- | Shadda`: the key is to use sane base-layout (e.g., ~x86 baselayout) |
| 00:09.47 | linlin | linlin:~# ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.10.10 |
| 00:09.47 | linlin | SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 00:09.47 | linlin | SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device |
| 00:09.53 | linlin | why doesnt that work...? |
| 00:09.55 | resiak | jim: That's not the SATA chipset... |
| 00:09.59 | jim | I do, my scrollback goes for days |
| 00:10.05 | streuner | linlin: thats not the debian way |
| 00:10.13 | linlin | ok how do i do it |
| 00:10.19 | linlin | thats the only way i know how |
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| 00:10.25 | streuner | linlin: sounds like you haven't load the module for your NIC |
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| 00:10.33 | linlin | its loaded... |
| 00:10.34 | jim | resiak: so you're saying there's a choice of controllers... I dunno how to get it without it already running linux |
| 00:10.37 | Supaplex | linlin: /etc/network/interfaces - man 5 interfaces |
| 00:10.38 | jim | unless... |
| 00:10.38 | streuner | linlin: DHCP? |
| 00:10.40 | linlin | im doing that through ssh to the machine |
| 00:10.43 | linlin | yes |
| 00:10.48 | directhex | ICH6 |
| 00:10.56 | streuner | linlin: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 00:10.57 | jim | the debian-installer with prev kernel has lspci |
| 00:10.59 | directhex | not supported by 2.6.8 to any usable degree |
| 00:10.59 | ttick | directhex: hmm, does autofs screw up gvm? |
| 00:11.06 | directhex | ttick, don't know |
| 00:11.07 | resiak | jim: I'm not saying that at all. I'm not providing any helpful input. |
| 00:11.14 | chealer-brain | directhex: I see...thanks! |
| 00:11.19 | jasonr | !ich6 |
| 00:11.20 | dpkg | i heard ich6 is a new intel chipset. SATA supported under ide-piix. audio on sarge needs either 1.0.8 (alsa-source)....snd-azx is the 1.0.8 version of the driver. 1.0.9 hda-intel driver is much better tho but not packaged. D-i RC3 should find sata automatically as it has been bugfixed but modprobe will find it if not autoconfiged |
| 00:11.34 | streuner | directhex: nothing in sata faq (/msg dpkg sata faq)? |
| 00:11.36 | eeyore- | why not install debian from knoppix then? :-) |
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| 00:11.39 | Va | hi |
| 00:11.51 | Va | whats the wrong with useing xchat with root acount? |
| 00:12.03 | resiak | !tell Va -about root |
| 00:12.18 | jasonr | struener/directx/jim: i run it it works in 2.6.8 with kernel inbuilt drivers...Piix and ata-Piix clash |
| 00:12.22 | jim | Va: what's wrong with doing anything with the root account that doesn't have only to do with maintainance? |
| 00:12.26 | linlin | ok...i dont understand,..what do i add to /etc/network/interfaces to do what im trying to do? |
| 00:12.28 | kmalloc | jim, my controller is Serial ATA: Intel ICH6R |
| 00:12.41 | streuner | !tell linlin about dhcp client |
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| 00:12.48 | Va | anyway im not here for talking about root |
| 00:12.56 | linlin | i just read that |
| 00:13.00 | Va | how to unzip file in shell? |
| 00:13.02 | directhex | ich6 doesn't work properly in most cases, i think only very early revisions work with sarge's kernel |
| 00:13.11 | jasonr | kmalloc: it works in 2.6.8 and higher i know.. |
| 00:13.20 | jim | Va: shell can't do it alone, you need unzip |
| 00:13.22 | resiak | Va: man unzip; man gunzip |
| 00:13.25 | jasonr | kmalloc but you probably need to compile the kernel with piix and ata-piix inbuilt |
| 00:13.43 | Va | thx res |
| 00:13.45 | jasonr | directhex: im on a gigabyte 775 socket board...3 weeks old 8 weeks released |
| 00:13.46 | jim | jasonr: he needs both? |
| 00:13.49 | streuner | directhex: well, we recommend etch for desktop systems.... |
| 00:13.51 | kmalloc | jasonr, http://catalog.us.dell.com/CS1/CS1Page2.aspx?br=30&c=us&cs=555&fm=11102&l=en&s=biz |
| 00:13.57 | resiak | !tell Va -about nicktab |
| 00:14.02 | directhex | streuner, "we"? who the fuck do you think you are? |
| 00:14.05 | kmalloc | jasonr, yes this works fine with 2.6.x |
| 00:14.17 | kmalloc | jasonr, but debian dont booting |
| 00:14.19 | kmalloc | :( |
| 00:14.22 | directhex | streuner, and where would people be getting ahold of etch install cds with recent kernels? |
| 00:14.32 | streuner | directhex: aren't you said, 2.6.8 kernel doesn't work? |
| 00:14.56 | kmalloc | jasonr, i have this sata this in my other box and works fine with 2.6.11, but i installed it after thats debian running. |
| 00:14.59 | directhex | streuner, it doesn't in most cases. not properly. there are a very large number of people who report problems with ich6 and sarge |
| 00:15.05 | jasonr | jasonr: at least piix: if atapiix loads first piix cant do crap...no errors just fails....hwinfo code would need to be written apparently according to BTS |
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| 00:15.16 | jasonr | kmalloc: so you installed netinst and cant boot now or you cant boot with netinst and detect it? |
| 00:15.20 | vince_ | woot I should be done downloading Debian on 2 DVDs in 6 hours or less :) |
| 00:15.28 | jim | see, that's what I thought might work too, but no one has claimed there is an etch installer (and I asked in anticipation of someone with sata needing help with debion) |
| 00:15.28 | ttick | okay, using xdm, and fluxbox for my wife's laptop. How do I give her an easy way to reboot and halt the machine w/o giving her root (since that's going to be way too complicated for her). Any suggestions? |
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| 00:15.36 | resiak | :( |
| 00:15.51 | Va | res the man gunzip have over 100 lins to read it , cant u help me and tell me to unpack the zip file? ;) |
| 00:15.52 | Supaplex | no sleep for you! :p heh jk. |
| 00:16.01 | resiak | !tell Va -about nicktab |
| 00:16.04 | streuner | directhex: so what do you suggest then? people should use etch or they shouldn't use debian? |
| 00:16.07 | Va | what? |
| 00:16.08 | initech | ttick: easiest way, use gdm |
| 00:16.12 | Supaplex | vince_: and why the insanity of all the downloading? |
| 00:16.19 | resiak | Va: Is it a .zip? man unzip |
| 00:16.30 | jim | Va: read first line... then get rid of first line... repeat |
| 00:16.33 | Shadda` | argh |
| 00:16.35 | Shadda` | one more thing |
| 00:16.40 | Shadda` | I always forget how to do this |
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| 00:16.46 | new_nick | root@localhost ~ # unzip |
| 00:16.46 | new_nick | bash: unzip: command not found |
| 00:16.50 | resiak | Va: I can't ever remember. I read the manpage |
| 00:16.50 | ttick | initech: well, not so much easiest way for me to setup, but easy way for her to use. |
| 00:16.53 | resiak | !installit |
| 00:16.53 | Shadda` | what do I setup so that I can access a samba share from windows? |
| 00:16.53 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 00:16.58 | Shadda` | It always prompts me for a user/pass |
| 00:17.02 | Shadda` | but I never remember how to set that |
| 00:17.03 | initech | ttick: well that would be both |
| 00:17.08 | new_nick | what? |
| 00:17.10 | resiak | !installit |
| 00:17.11 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 00:17.15 | jim | new_nick: like I said, shell alone won't be able to do it |
| 00:17.17 | vince_ | Supaplex, not sure maybe just having everything on DVD with me oh and faster install :). Well so I think hehe |
| 00:17.20 | initech | ttick: xdm is really featureless as a display manager |
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| 00:17.38 | new_nick | how to get the unzip file? from debian? ;) |
| 00:17.39 | m_ | How come everytime I use aptitude it tries to remove "unused" programs |
| 00:17.43 | m_ | and how do I make it stop! |
| 00:17.43 | new_nick | or from the 7 cd's |
| 00:17.44 | new_nick | ? |
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| 00:17.54 | resiak | new_nick: apt-get install unzip |
| 00:17.57 | Morozoff | hi |
| 00:17.58 | ttick | initech: true. but I'd rather not tax her machine with gdm, unless I don't need to install "gnome" to have only gdm working -- she still needs to use fluxbox cause the machine won't handle gnome. :( |
| 00:18.00 | directhex | streuner, i suggest, if people have hardware which doesn't work with a given tool, then they should use the best tool for the job. said best tool is not always debian, especially where ich6 and i9x5 are concerned. sarge is fine on two of my systems, but not on a third. such is life, but some people have work to do, and sitting there trying aimlessly to run an os for a religious reason is not efficient |
| 00:18.01 | Supaplex | vince_: you're wasting bw on stuff you'll never use. why not just use sources.list like everyone else? besides, by the time you've downloaded that, it's out of date. |
| 00:18.02 | initech | ttick: she is using fluxbox and you are worried about it being easy? |
| 00:18.05 | resiak | !tell new_nick -about enter |
| 00:18.05 | jim | new_nick: you have 7 cds? it ought to be on one of them |
| 00:18.08 | streuner | !tell new_nick about search |
| 00:18.28 | directhex | new_nick, 7 cds? you're running debian 3.0? |
| 00:18.28 | ttick | initech: well, she doesn't need to do much: oo.org, firefox, that's about it. |
| 00:18.39 | Supaplex | !ignore new_nick |
| 00:18.42 | new_nick | !tell new_nick dpkg wont talk |
| 00:18.43 | resiak | new_nick: Why the fuck did you do that? |
| 00:18.58 | Guerin | Supaplex: you're a good one to talk about ignoring people. |
| 00:19.04 | streuner | directhex: well, there are other options as well to run it then... |
| 00:19.06 | new_nick | ammm |
| 00:19.08 | dabaR_ | ok, I installed from a CD(minimal CD for networ install, and I dont think I was asked if I wanted a desktop environment, and in any case, I do not have one now. I would like to have X, and gnome installed, how should I go about it? |
| 00:19.11 | Supaplex | Guerin: my appologies. |
| 00:19.12 | new_nick | i dont like dpkg to talk to me! |
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| 00:19.15 | resiak | *plonk* |
| 00:19.19 | initech | ttick: don't know how to configure xdm to well, it might be possible from there. Or from the wm you could create a script that shuts the machine down, there's any number of possibilities here |
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| 00:19.26 | resiak | !faq dabaR_ |
| 00:19.28 | chealer-brain | !tell dabaR_ about install gnome |
| 00:19.33 | directhex | or run gdm not xdm |
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| 00:19.39 | dpkg | dabaR_: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 00:19.41 | new_nick | dab , ignroe dpkg |
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| 00:19.51 | new_nick | /ignore dpkg |
| 00:19.55 | mdh | vince_: if yu have an internet connection available to the machine you're installing, its a lot easier to simply download the netinst ISO and go from that. It includes everything you need to get your system up and running and on a network, you can then apt-get install anything else you want |
| 00:19.59 | Shadda` | anybody? |
| 00:20.04 | Guerin | !install gnome |
| 00:20.04 | dpkg | i heard install gnome is in woody: apt-get install gnome-session gnome-control-center sawfish-gnome ; In sarge and sid: apt-get install gnome |
| 00:20.06 | Guerin | bah |
| 00:20.09 | Morozoff | damn, registered nick is impossible, so i would Vlat4u34 somewherer |
| 00:20.15 | streuner | new_nick: ignoring dpkg would be really stupid |
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| 00:20.20 | linlin | oh damnit...i was messing around in the interfaces file and i lost communication with my box |
| 00:20.22 | mdh | vince_: downloading 2 DVD's is a complete waste of time considering you'll probably not use even half the stuff you're downloading |
| 00:20.27 | new_nick | i got before 5 mins |
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| 00:20.34 | Guerin | dpkg, install gnome is you probably need to install x-window-system-core as well |
| 00:20.34 | WireDDD | can anyone tell me where I can find gcc-version.sh or what I need to install to get it? |
| 00:20.34 | dpkg | ...but install gnome is already something else... |
| 00:20.35 | linlin | thats gunna cost me 35$.... |
| 00:20.41 | new_nick | xchat told me , useing xchat with root is stupid! |
| 00:20.44 | Guerin | dpkg, install gnome is also you probably need to install x-window-system-core as well |
| 00:20.44 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 00:20.47 | dabaR_ | ok, well, Ill apt-get install gnome, and come back and tell you what the error is(I done it a few days ago, so I know there is an error. |
| 00:20.56 | dabaR_ | thanks |
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| 00:21.07 | Guerin | dabaR_: get x-window-system-core too |
| 00:21.16 | Guerin | !thomas_adam's theorem |
| 00:21.16 | dpkg | somebody said thomas_adam's theorem was a debian user's uselessness is directly proportional to the probability that s/he will mention "I've been using debian for X years, but I still can't..." |
| 00:21.17 | ttick | initech: well, from the wm is fine. maybe if I put her in the "shutdown" group and give reboot and halt suid root, I can make a menu option for it. |
| 00:21.19 | Guerin | Morozoff: ^^^ |
| 00:21.20 | jim | new_nick: you only have 5 mins? then you probably won't be able to do everything now. |
| 00:21.21 | dabaR_ | k, just saw that. |
| 00:21.29 | new_nick | ha? |
| 00:21.30 | Morozoff | if you want...you know.... |
| 00:21.34 | new_nick | 5 what? |
| 00:21.34 | initech | ttick: that would do it |
| 00:22.02 | Error | ? |
| 00:22.29 | directhex | !win xchat |
| 00:22.30 | dpkg | Congratulations, xchat! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 00:22.32 | jim | new_nick: you're starting to look like a troll... if you want help, ask for it... if you want to troll, try trolling on #freenode |
| 00:22.48 | Error | nah |
| 00:22.51 | themolester | anyone know what type of partition 0vmakfil.exe makes for hdd suspend on some laptops? |
| 00:22.52 | Error | if i will troll |
| 00:23.01 | themolester | and if its possible to create without that exe |
| 00:23.01 | Error | im going to troll in my distro chan |
| 00:23.03 | thomas_adam | Heh. |
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| 00:23.09 | Error | and my distro isnt debian ;) |
| 00:23.10 | jim | if you will troll, you'll be escorted out |
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| 00:23.27 | jim | and not invited back today :P |
| 00:23.34 | Error | lol |
| 00:23.35 | Supaplex | thomas_adam: hardly Linux related. did you try google? |
| 00:23.43 | Error | thanks , i got alots of banned from here |
| 00:23.45 | thomas_adam | Supaplex: I'm sorry? |
| 00:23.53 | ohad | hey jim sorry for the stupid questions before. i was *running* around with my laptop and didn't really put anytime to actually *read* the error msg -(dumb) - anyhow, now that i am running - make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image - get the following error : cp: cannot stat `arch/i386/boot/bzImage': No such file or directory - ake: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 2 -- it is stange that i don't have bzImage |
| 00:24.05 | bronxcoder | I've been using linux on and off for years but never reall started to experiment with it. could I as you guys a couple of questintions??? |
| 00:24.07 | Error | and my modem [usb one] , i got it work without get eathernet one |
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| 00:24.35 | jim | ohad: probably what you have to do is try again with a clean tree... |
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| 00:24.39 | eeyore- | themolester: usually. it's just a partition that's just large enough for the amount of memory on that machine. for the type, that would depend on the bios, really. you have to run it and see what it does on your machine :-) |
| 00:24.46 | jim | ohad: to get a clean tree... |
| 00:24.49 | bronxcoder | were do I go do change grub settings so that it doesn't boot to x? |
| 00:24.53 | eeyore- | themolester: and every time you upgrade memory on the laptop, you have to make a new partition, obviously |
| 00:24.54 | daesotho | dpkg is hanging on Preparing to replace libgnomevfs2-common 2.8.4-4 (using .../libgnomevfs2-common_2.10.1-5_i386.deb) ... |
| 00:25.00 | vince_ | mdh, I guess your right. So there is no big difference bewteen the net-install then the dvd one? |
| 00:25.02 | Guerin | bronxcoder: grub doesn't control that. |
| 00:25.03 | jim | first copy your .config to a safe place outside the kernel source tree |
| 00:25.08 | Guerin | !tell bronxcoder about nodm |
| 00:25.10 | Supaplex | thomas_adam: your question regarding partition types created by closed program not running on Linux hardly suits an audiance here. Did you use www.google.com to look for any explinations of it? maybe the vendor of the software knows? |
| 00:25.15 | daesotho | debian unstable, btw |
| 00:25.18 | Error | /ignore dpkg |
| 00:25.21 | Guerin | jim: clean doesn't hurt .config |
| 00:25.22 | streuner | daesotho: what does BTS say? |
| 00:25.25 | thomas_adam | Supaplex: I didn't ask any question. |
| 00:25.33 | mdh | vince_: the installer is identical. the dvd's just have all the packages on them and the netinst iso has just the base |
| 00:25.35 | jim | but what I'm going to tell him to do will |
| 00:25.36 | daesotho | whats bts? |
| 00:25.38 | eeyore- | Supaplex: "themolester", not "thomas_adam" |
| 00:25.49 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Hey. How are things? |
| 00:25.49 | Supaplex | thomas_adam: oh, nm. I meant themolester :) |
| 00:25.52 | Guerin | daesotho: wtf, you use sid and don't know the BTS? |
| 00:25.54 | vince_ | mdh, ok net install it is then |
| 00:25.57 | thomas_adam | Supaplex: Fool. |
| 00:26.00 | streuner | !topicsmite daesotho |
| 00:26.01 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon daesotho. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 00:26.02 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: Stressful. |
| 00:26.11 | GuHaSe | checking for inflate in -lz... no |
| 00:26.11 | GuHaSe | configure: error: "no zlib found" |
| 00:26.19 | GuHaSe | can anyone tell me what pack i missing? |
| 00:26.27 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Ouch. Much empathy. |
| 00:26.32 | thomas_adam | GuHaSe: zlib-dev |
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| 00:26.37 | daesotho | ooh |
| 00:26.38 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: Thanks. |
| 00:26.38 | daesotho | ok |
| 00:26.39 | Guerin | daesotho: you dumb motherfucker. I bet you don't read the instructions on powertools either. |
| 00:26.45 | mdh | vince_: if you were installing something with no network connection, then maybe you'd get the first 3 CD's if it was a general-enough system |
| 00:26.45 | streuner | daesotho: apt-get install apt-listchanges apt-listbugs |
| 00:26.49 | daesotho | ive used the bts |
| 00:26.54 | Supaplex | while I enjoy helping people, I'm being made out to be an ass hat. would you like to see my ass hat side, or just understand it was uninteiontally misdirected?? |
| 00:26.59 | mdh | vince_: the Debian CD's have the packages ordered by popularity |
| 00:27.02 | GuHaSe | thomas_adam, apt-get says package not found |
| 00:27.05 | vince_ | mdh, i'm looking for a desktop install |
| 00:27.05 | daesotho | but never seen the acronym |
| 00:27.06 | thomas_adam | GuHaSe: zlib1g-dev |
| 00:27.12 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: Anytime. :) |
| 00:27.17 | thomas_adam | GuHaSe: God forbid I should do your donkey work for you. |
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| 00:27.18 | Supaplex | nm, I have other projects to tend. |
| 00:27.26 | bronxcoder | so what does control the bootup process if not grub (trying to make it boot with shell instead of booting into xwindow) |
| 00:27.26 | Guerin | Supaplex: 3:| <--- asshat |
| 00:27.38 | mdh | Guerin: powertools have instructions? |
| 00:27.38 | jim | your asshat side? is that located above your face and below your belt? :) |
| 00:27.39 | Supaplex | Guerin: thanks! |
| 00:27.41 | directhex | !tell bronxcoder about nodm |
| 00:27.57 | Guerin | mdh: see, YOU don't read them either!\ |
| 00:28.00 | thomas_adam | GuHaSe: For the record, the use of 'apt-file' and/or auto-apt, would have helped you. |
| 00:28.05 | Error | do anyone know a site for getting demo game (id like to try it on cedega 4.3.3) |
| 00:28.06 | Error | ? |
| 00:28.07 | mdh | Guerin: what engineer does? |
| 00:28.10 | Supaplex | I wonder why I care about helping anyone here anyway. |
| 00:28.22 | cthulfuego | !stab Supaplex |
| 00:28.23 | Guerin | mdh: the one who doesn't already know how they're used. |
| 00:28.26 | dabaR_ | where would I find out the video card's bus identifier? |
| 00:28.30 | jim | Error: howbout bubbros |
| 00:28.32 | thomas_adam | dabaR_: lspci |
| 00:28.39 | directhex | dabaR_, lspci -X |
| 00:28.40 | mdh | Guerin: ahhh. lamers. of course. |
| 00:28.41 | cthulfuego | dabaR_: You don't. Didn't you READ what the instruction screen said? |
| 00:28.42 | mdh | ;-) |
| 00:28.42 | Error | if its good game |
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| 00:28.46 | Error | give me the link of it |
| 00:28.47 | Error | :) |
| 00:28.49 | jim | soem like it |
| 00:28.55 | vince_ | mdh, woot 5 min seems alot faster then 6 hours :) |
| 00:28.56 | jim | I dunno, you'll have to try it |
| 00:29.02 | directhex | Error, try asking in a channel which cares about windows-only games |
| 00:29.03 | thomas_adam | Error: Your enter key is not a means for punctuation. |
| 00:29.04 | jim | you'll need a late python |
| 00:29.07 | dabaR_ | 0000:01:00.0 sound ok? |
| 00:29.09 | cDa | Is it possibel with proftpd-mysql to see how much traffic every user is using? |
| 00:29.13 | sDES | what is the scheduler complexity of a 2.6.12 kernel ? O(1)? |
| 00:29.18 | Guerin | jim: but that game runs natively in linux... |
| 00:29.20 | directhex | dabaR_, no. |
| 00:29.20 | thomas_adam | dabaR_: Yes, but what makes you think you need it? |
| 00:29.22 | Error | my enter key is mine |
| 00:29.24 | Error | and mine |
| 00:29.27 | jim | bubbros.sf.net I think |
| 00:29.30 | Error | im gona to use it |
| 00:29.34 | dabaR_ | x installation asks for it |
| 00:29.35 | Guerin | bub-n-bros |
| 00:29.40 | thomas_adam | dabaR_: You don't need it. |
| 00:29.41 | cthulfuego | dabaR_: No, it doesn't. |
| 00:29.44 | directhex | !ops Error is just trolling now |
| 00:29.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Error is just trolling now |
| 00:29.47 | mdh | vince_: definately. and once its installed, you can use aptitude or dselect or plain old apt-get to install the extra stuff that you need, like gnome or kde or ion3 or whatever you wanted on your desktop |
| 00:29.50 | dabaR_ | so enter through it? |
| 00:29.58 | cthulfuego | dabaR_: The screen before says "Leave it blank" |
| 00:30.00 | Shadda` | Can someone help me with samba? |
| 00:30.07 | cthulfuego | dabaR_: Next screen, READ first, then hit return. |
| 00:30.09 | thomas_adam | Shadda`: #samba ? |
| 00:30.10 | jasonr | des32: press ? on it in the menu |
| 00:30.17 | Error | !ops Error didnt ever troll in his shurt life! |
| 00:30.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Error didnt ever troll in his shurt life! |
| 00:30.21 | jim | put your right foot in you put your right foot out... |
| 00:30.24 | scarynetworkguy | !tell Shadda` about smart questions. |
| 00:30.26 | thomas_adam | Error: :| |
| 00:30.31 | jim | wait, thats not samba! |
| 00:30.35 | dabaR_ | I dont do that. |
| 00:30.41 | vince_ | mdh, can I get synaptic too? |
| 00:30.45 | streuner | Error: uhm, that isnt very clever to abuse !ops... |
| 00:30.46 | dabaR_ | I just enter through it(windows habbit) |
| 00:30.49 | mdh | vince_: yes, of course |
| 00:30.52 | thomas_adam | dabaR_: What, read? Well, you're not the first, nor the last. |
| 00:30.53 | vince_ | mdh, cool |
| 00:30.54 | Error | ok |
| 00:30.55 | Error | !op |
| 00:30.58 | cthulfuego | dabaR_: If you can't be arsed reading, we can't be arsed helping. |
| 00:31.07 | bronxcoder | hey I trying to see if there was a man page for nodm, and then I googled for nodm... nothing. Is tere anyone here in this room who can tell me (or point me to the right documentation) so that can setup debian to stop boot to xwindow and to shell instead? |
| 00:31.09 | jim | haha |
| 00:31.11 | dabaR_ | sure you can |
| 00:31.13 | dabaR_ | :P |
| 00:31.13 | Error | i got a state :] |
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| 00:31.18 | Error | im now |
| 00:31.19 | thomas_adam | !tell bronxcoder -about nodm |
| 00:31.24 | streuner | eeyore-: can we get rid of this troll (Error)? |
| 00:31.32 | Error | same thinges better |
| 00:31.36 | directhex | thomas_adam, i've done that. as has someone else. he seems to have /ignore'd dpkg |
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| 00:31.38 | Error | with the the + |
| 00:31.39 | Error | ;) |
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| 00:31.51 | Guerin | bronxcoder: unignore dpkg and he'll tell you. |
| 00:31.56 | Oleg | hi,i'm trying to install my linksys wmp54g under debian, it doen't work with ndiswrapper, somebody can help me? |
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| 00:32.04 | Error | /ignore dpkg |
| 00:32.04 | thomas_adam | bronxcoder: If you ignore the bot, that's your loss, however: "echo false >> /etc/X11/default-display-manager", should suffice. |
| 00:32.04 | jim | bronxcoder: you can remove the <whatever>dm you have |
| 00:32.13 | Error | i ignroed him |
| 00:32.15 | Error | <- i did |
| 00:32.17 | Guerin | thomas_adam: > , not >> |
| 00:32.30 | directhex | why is he not banned yet? |
| 00:32.38 | Error | becouz |
| 00:32.40 | thomas_adam | Guerin: > would wipe the file out, if noclobber is not set, so >> |
| 00:32.44 | jim | no ops here? |
| 00:32.47 | Error | * dpkg sets mode +dickweed error!*@*.* |
| 00:32.50 | Error | like u see |
| 00:32.51 | Error | ;) |
| 00:32.56 | mdh | directhex: no ops are awake. I'll seriously drive down the road and wake bob2 up if you think its worth it |
| 00:32.58 | Error | he sets me +**** |
| 00:32.59 | dabaR_ | all right, it is in process, whoever came up with x-window-system-core, thanks, we'll see if it is different this time. |
| 00:33.16 | Guerin | Error: if you could stop drooling into your keyboard long enough to type /quit, that would be great. |
| 00:33.25 | dabaR_ | so why is anyone paying attention to him, anyhow |
| 00:33.30 | directhex | see, this is more proof i should be an op. i only sleep 5 hours a night, the rest is spent in #debian shouting at idiots |
| 00:33.32 | dabaR_ | just ignore the guy, I think... |
| 00:33.36 | mdh | dabaR_: they haven't learned /ignore |
| 00:33.38 | jim | he's gone |
| 00:33.45 | streuner | Guerin: haha |
| 00:33.51 | Guerin | thomas_adam: yeah. The file should just be one line - I'm not sure if /usr/bin/gdm\nfalse would do the trick. |
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| 00:34.01 | Error | guess who back! :) |
| 00:34.10 | thomas_adam | Guerin: Well, as the first value in the file is read anyway, it makes no difference what comes after it. |
| 00:34.11 | dabaR_ | who? |
| 00:34.18 | Guerin | thomas_adam: right. |
| 00:34.19 | directhex | shady's back |
| 00:34.22 | Error | the enter key |
| 00:34.23 | Error | :) |
| 00:34.42 | thomas_adam | Guerin: Besides, it's handy appending it, as you can always remove 'false' later, and have your old DM back, should you want it. |
| 00:34.51 | jasonr | sigh |
| 00:34.54 | streuner | Error: don't abuse the enter button too much! |
| 00:35.00 | jasonr | !irritate Error |
| 00:35.01 | dpkg | Error: HELP ME!!! who uses cable plz msg me, pirre |
| 00:35.05 | Error | Can anyone give me a site of demo game to try it with cedega? |
| 00:35.07 | Error | :) |
| 00:35.13 | jim | no |
| 00:35.14 | directhex | fuck it, i'm going to bed. if it's not one troll it's another, i wonder why i bother seing as i had other things to do tonight |
| 00:35.22 | dabaR_ | #cedega prolly |
| 00:35.22 | Error | bye bye |
| 00:35.24 | Error | dont bacl |
| 00:35.28 | Error | back* :) |
| 00:35.29 | thomas_adam | Doesn't stop me from being up too late. |
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| 00:35.32 | streuner | directhex: night |
| 00:35.38 | Error | Goood morning! |
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| 00:35.52 | Error | 3 |
| 00:35.54 | Kamping_At_Hu1 | could someone give me a hand with exim4? |
| 00:35.58 | daesotho | 456 |
| 00:36.00 | jasonr | error: www.virustester.com? |
| 00:36.01 | omenka | hi |
| 00:36.05 | thomas_adam | Kamping_At_Hu1: Ask your question. |
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| 00:36.15 | Error | error 404 |
| 00:36.22 | Error | give me any game |
| 00:36.25 | Error | and im gona to test it |
| 00:36.27 | Error | :> |
| 00:36.35 | daesotho | hm |
| 00:36.37 | jasonr | 8( |
| 00:36.38 | jim | Error: already did. now deal with it |
| 00:36.38 | daesotho | quake? |
| 00:36.40 | dabaR_ | #cedega... |
| 00:36.41 | Error | you are wasting my bandwith , when im talking here |
| 00:36.42 | Error | ;) |
| 00:36.45 | macks | i'm making a mix cd and watch to fade some tracks into the next. what's a good software to use? |
| 00:36.52 | Error | wich one? |
| 00:36.52 | macks | ^want |
| 00:36.58 | thomas_adam | macks: gsound ? |
| 00:37.00 | Kamping-Kaiser | thomas_adam, i need to know what sort of mail delivery to use. i have a server that has about 20 users. so what do i need for local mail |
| 00:37.07 | daesotho | quake quake, of course |
| 00:37.12 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: a nullmailer? |
| 00:37.13 | Error | nah |
| 00:37.14 | daesotho | with the airquake mod |
| 00:37.15 | daesotho | hehe |
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| 00:37.17 | Error | quake ! |
| 00:37.18 | mdh | Error: play nethack. let us know when you're ascended |
| 00:37.20 | macks | thomas_adam: Unable to locate package gsound? |
| 00:37.20 | Error | how mb is it? |
| 00:37.26 | jasonr | mmacks mplayer ..it has crosfade pluging too |
| 00:37.29 | jim | Error: you have something on your neck (other than the frog on your head that claims it's a wart on its ass) |
| 00:37.31 | Kamping-Kaiser | nullmailer? |
| 00:37.37 | Error | mdh, do u have link? |
| 00:37.40 | Error | link? |
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| 00:37.42 | Error | url? |
| 00:37.45 | macks | jasonr: but that's just for playback right? i want to save .wavs to burn to cd |
| 00:37.46 | thomas_adam | macks: gnusound. |
| 00:37.46 | Drevay | hey, i have a bit of a pickle |
| 00:37.47 | mdh | Error: apt-get install nethack |
| 00:37.49 | Error | http:// ? |
| 00:37.54 | jim | Error: google.com |
| 00:37.54 | Drevay | i can't get X to work since it won't recognize my mouse |
| 00:37.55 | Error | im not useing debian! |
| 00:37.58 | Error | ;) |
| 00:38.00 | Drevay | my mouse is a USB Logitech optical |
| 00:38.05 | Drevay | any advice? |
| 00:38.07 | macks | thomas_adam: thanks, i'll check it out |
| 00:38.12 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: I.e. you have a mailserver that you want to then have dispatch mail from workstations? |
| 00:38.13 | Kamping-Kaiser | *error |
| 00:38.20 | Drevay | ? |
| 00:38.22 | Error | yes? |
| 00:38.28 | streuner | Drevay: try /msg dpkg usbmouse |
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| 00:38.36 | Drevay | thanks =) |
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| 00:38.38 | mdh | Error: go to www.debian.org then and install it. you'll love us forever. |
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| 00:38.48 | Error | nah |
| 00:38.53 | Error | i tryed it |
| 00:38.55 | daesotho | what are you usingL |
| 00:38.57 | daesotho | *? |
| 00:39.02 | Kamping-Kaiser | thomas_adam. the server has thin clients running off it. i need to find out which type of mail deleivery to use. |
| 00:39.04 | Error | i got 7 cd's and im thinking to throw it! |
| 00:39.10 | jasonr | drevay /dev/input/mice in drxx...? its a standard HID mous on IMps2 |
| 00:39.15 | daesotho | i used netinstall |
| 00:39.17 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: There's a few. |
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| 00:39.22 | daesotho | at 768kB/s |
| 00:39.23 | daesotho | hehe |
| 00:39.35 | daesotho | i love i2 |
| 00:39.36 | quittt | does XMMS handle m4a? |
| 00:39.43 | thomas_adam | quittt: I don't think so. |
| 00:39.48 | Error | soooo |
| 00:39.53 | Error | anyone know good game? |
| 00:39.54 | eeyore- | is the ipw2100 driver (intel pro/wireless, opensource driver) stable? |
| 00:40.01 | sDES | eeyore-: yes |
| 00:40.03 | daesotho | airquake |
| 00:40.03 | Drevay | let's hope... |
| 00:40.03 | Error | a link for cs for linux maybe? |
| 00:40.05 | eeyore- | or, rather, is there an "official" intel driver that's out there? |
| 00:40.10 | thomas_adam | eeyore-: for various values of stable... |
| 00:40.17 | sDES | eeyore-: nop |
| 00:40.17 | daesotho | u should play airquake with me |
| 00:40.22 | streuner | eeyore-: can we get rid of this troll (Error)? |
| 00:40.22 | jasonr | quitt: may be a plugin for it but not nanormally |
| 00:40.23 | eeyore- | sDES: so ipw2100 is it? |
| 00:40.25 | Error | use the unstable its better |
| 00:40.26 | Error | :] |
| 00:40.43 | Kamping-Kaiser | would "local delivery only" work? |
| 00:40.49 | sDES | eeyore-: I've been using it 12months now, no problems |
| 00:40.53 | Kamping-Kaiser | spose i twould :$ |
| 00:40.56 | eeyore- | set kick_if_banned off |
| 00:40.59 | eeyore- | whoops |
| 00:41.09 | sDES | eeyore-: :) |
| 00:41.16 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: Yup, or fetchmail, or some other MDA. |
| 00:41.25 | xer | anyone will give me a name for good game? |
| 00:41.31 | thomas_adam | xer: moon-buggy. |
| 00:41.34 | xer | i need to download it then reboot to use linux |
| 00:41.41 | mdh | xer: nethack. www.nethack.org |
| 00:41.42 | xer | the link plz |
| 00:41.43 | xer | :D |
| 00:41.43 | Kamping-Kaiser | thomas_adam, i dont have a choice in server ;) its what i was told to use |
| 00:41.47 | xer | ok |
| 00:41.48 | mdh | xer: come back when you're ascended |
| 00:41.51 | Kamping-Kaiser | i just wasnt told how to set uit up :( |
| 00:41.55 | eeyore- | xer: why are people feeling bugged by you? |
| 00:41.57 | xer | can its run from cygwin? |
| 00:41.57 | K_Dallas | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.02 | xer | im useing windows now |
| 00:42.03 | xer | :> |
| 00:42.06 | Guerin | xer: fuck off and die, you useless imbecile. You're trolling a free software channel for windows games. Just fucking stop it. |
| 00:42.12 | mdh | xer: it'll run native in windows. |
| 00:42.15 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: Umm, you're asking which one to use, how is it then you have to ask that if you have no choice? |
| 00:42.35 | *** mode/#debian [+o eeyore-] by ChanServ |
| 00:42.35 | xer | www.nethack.org <- looks ugly! |
| 00:42.35 | *** kick/#debian [marra!foobar@64.147.11.117] by eeyore- (Banned) |
| 00:42.35 | *** kick/#debian [panthera!foobar@64.147.11.117] by eeyore- (Banned) |
| 00:42.37 | Kamping-Kaiser | no, i asked for help to set it up |
| 00:42.40 | xer | i need 3d game |
| 00:42.45 | eeyore- | i though i told bx to not kick if banned, must be a bug :-p |
| 00:42.48 | Guerin | xer: you need a fucking bullet. |
| 00:42.59 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@217.164.73.135] by eeyore- |
| 00:43.01 | dabaR_ | haha |
| 00:43.02 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: No, you're asking two different questions. |
| 00:43.11 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: and/or not stating them at all clearly. |
| 00:43.12 | sDES | xer: --> try uplink www.introversion.co.uk "highly addictive" |
| 00:43.13 | *** mode/#debian [-o eeyore-] by eeyore- |
| 00:43.23 | streuner | eeyore-: thanks |
| 00:43.26 | chealer-brain | dpkg: no, install gnome is <reply> install the gnome package, and you probably need X as well (ask me about install x), or in woody: apt-get install gnome-session gnome-control-center sawfish-gnome |
| 00:43.26 | dpkg | chealer-brain: okay |
| 00:43.31 | Kamping-Kaiser | thomas_adam, probably not stating clearly. |
| 00:43.33 | Kamping-Kaiser | bbl |
| 00:43.46 | thomas_adam | Kamping-Kaiser: That and I stopped caring a while ago... |
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| 00:43.51 | mdh | eeyore-: thank you |
| 00:44.19 | jim | eeyore-: I guess some people (including myself) felt that he's obviously trolling the channel on purpose |
| 00:44.40 | jim | maybe he's an orphan looking for parents to set limits for him |
| 00:45.08 | jasoncohen | gnome 2.10 doesn't automount CDs for me. it does auto-mount my usb key- perhaps it can't detect when a new CD is inserted but it works on another machine i have and the settings are identical. |
| 00:45.09 | mdh | jim: you give too much credit |
| 00:45.18 | chealer-brain | jim: don't look for complicated answers. he's just running windows |
| 00:45.27 | sDES | chealer-brain: :))) |
| 00:45.35 | Guerin | whether he was trolling or not, he was incurably stupid |
| 00:45.45 | jim | he's been here before |
| 00:45.50 | jim | many times |
| 00:45.52 | eeyore- | i'm going off to big bear this weekend :-) i sure hope to $diety i don't bang up my car too much :-) |
| 00:45.56 | jim | and does the same thing every time |
| 00:46.01 | thomas_adam | xteddy! |
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| 00:46.06 | quittt | !m4a |
| 00:46.15 | Guerin | eeyore-: what is this 'big bear' of which you speak? |
| 00:46.18 | scarynetworkguy | Xteddy!! |
| 00:46.33 | thomas_adam | http://www.starshine.org/xteddy/ |
| 00:46.39 | Guerin | fucking evil 3rd graders have been let into the computer lab again |
| 00:46.42 | streuner | Guerin: someone could be stupid, but ignoring everything makes it trolling then... |
| 00:46.47 | Guerin | nothing is safe! |
| 00:46.55 | myren | are there any good alternatives to it conversations . com? |
| 00:46.56 | eeyore- | Guerin: hmm. it's a place up on san bernardino mountain. lake. touristy spot. we're going, as a club, to wheeling spots in big bear, and just kind of enjoy the weekend |
| 00:47.00 | myren | i want more conference proeedings |
| 00:47.15 | Guerin | eeyore-: yay for road trips! |
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| 00:47.32 | Kasiope | good night |
| 00:47.50 | Kasiope | who knows how can i create logs from a sftp connection? |
| 00:48.15 | sDES | Kasiope: not possible, you need a patched ssh server , google for it |
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| 00:48.59 | sDES | Kasiope: strnge though that the openssh(openbsd) people haven't taken care of that |
| 00:49.58 | thomas_adam | Kasiope: sftp -vvv ? |
| 00:50.09 | Kasiope | sDES: i dont want to patch because install from source its really painful |
| 00:50.39 | myren | crap, ive milked itconversations.com dry; i'm outta luck now i guess. :/ |
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| 00:51.03 | sDES | Kasiope: sorry, but there is no other way :( . |
| 00:51.05 | jim | Kasiope: then maybe you'd never be able to do it, if the version that is now distributed by debian doesn't already do what you want |
| 00:51.49 | Guerin | Kasiope: you can probably mung something crude together out of tcpdump output, but it would be ugly |
| 00:51.56 | sDES | Kasiope: you have to patch !,I'm not even sure you will find a patch for the latest version 4.1p1 |
| 00:52.07 | eeyore- | myren: ITconversations.com? you don't have people at work you can talk to? |
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| 00:52.43 | Kasiope | SDES: Iknow about sftplogging patch but i don't know whether may work.... |
| 00:52.56 | myren | everywhere i've gone i find i'm still the ubergeek. :/ |
| 00:52.56 | jim | Guerin: but if he thinks building from source is painful... |
| 00:53.04 | Guerin | jim: yeah. |
| 00:53.09 | Kasiope | I tried and i really didin't know whether it patched openssh... |
| 00:53.09 | sDES | Kasiope: I haven't looked inot it recently, however, such a thing exists... |
| 00:53.24 | myren | itconvos has some fun creme de la creme stuff; its hard to find smart people. |
| 00:53.27 | sDES | Kasiope: Did anything appear on the logs? |
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| 00:54.02 | Kasiope | when i patched openssh i didn know if it was a real patch |
| 00:54.03 | xzgv | is there a repository of marillat for Sarge stable? |
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| 00:54.21 | streuner | xzgv: yes... |
| 00:54.47 | jim | what makes patches real or not? |
| 00:54.48 | streuner | xzgv: some people had problems, but it works most of the time |
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| 00:55.21 | sDES | Kasiope: I hope the patch came from a trustworthy source ;) |
| 00:55.31 | xzgv | streuner, thx bud! |
| 00:55.52 | Kasiope | sDES: do you think people from openbsd channel may help? |
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| 00:56.14 | jim | here, I have this one called 53kuR17y.diff.gz... |
| 00:56.22 | sDES | I'm not sure.The patch I was referring to was from a third party, at some .edu |
| 00:56.27 | jim | wait, that's not the right name |
| 00:56.34 | sDES | Kasiope: BUT you can always try |
| 00:57.01 | Kasiope | sDES: i'll try thanks for your time |
| 00:57.07 | sDES | jim: xexe |
| 00:57.09 | jim | it's called m4k3-Uh-53kuR17y-h013.diff.gz... |
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| 00:57.30 | dabaR_ | worked nice, thanks, I guess I would have to play around with xconfig to get myu resolution and that, but I have gnome working now... |
| 00:57.48 | sDES | jim: :)) yeah, like Password : I0wnUr4ss |
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| 00:58.11 | mdh | jim: that looks like a cisco ios patch number ;) |
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| 00:59.17 | jim | yue shold tray at... at wull mak ur puter 100 ties faster then ats evar beem! |
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| 01:00.43 | jim | ok, I'm struggling trying to find how to do a --bind mount in fstab.... |
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| 01:00.50 | jcarr | how can I use ttf? I put them in usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF |
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| 01:00.55 | jcarr | and ran fc-cache |
| 01:01.13 | jcarr | but all I still have are the crap default fonts like bitstream vera |
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| 01:01.32 | cddesjar | how do i add application to the menu in windowmaker? |
| 01:01.38 | jcarr | hello? hello? |
| 01:02.05 | simonrvn | jim: you just put 'bind'... |
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| 01:02.12 | ruied | I can't umount /home, how can I find the process that is using my /home partition? is there any way??? |
| 01:02.26 | Guerin | ruied: fuser |
| 01:02.29 | simonrvn | ruied: fuser, lsof |
| 01:02.38 | jcarr | hello? |
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| 01:02.49 | jim | like, if I want to do mount --bind /dir/to/mount /mount/point, would my fstab line be /dir/to/mount /mount/point none rw,bind 0 0? |
| 01:02.49 | simonrvn | goodbye? |
| 01:02.49 | Guerin | !piav |
| 01:02.50 | dpkg | Patience is a virtue - just wait and someone will answer you. |
| 01:03.09 | challenged | jcarr: no one know it would seem tried google? |
| 01:03.15 | jim | I dont' know why you say goodbye I say hello |
| 01:03.21 | Guerin | jcarr: what fonts do you wants? |
| 01:03.26 | jcarr | I found something that just told me to run fc-cache |
| 01:03.33 | simonrvn | jcarr: it's not hard. you sure you have anti-aliasing enabled? |
| 01:03.35 | Guerin | !tell jcarr about fonts |
| 01:03.37 | jcarr | Guerin, a bunch of truetype fonts I need for web development |
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| 01:03.49 | ruied | thanks |
| 01:03.54 | jcarr | I followed the instructions to use fc-cache :( |
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| 01:04.33 | jcarr | there's no reason a modern os should have such difficulty using fonts |
| 01:04.40 | jim | holy holycow batman! |
| 01:04.43 | simonrvn | there isn't |
| 01:05.04 | jim | holycow: been playing major scales? :) |
| 01:05.05 | simonrvn | as in, no it isn't hard to do this. you're just full of thumbs ;p |
| 01:05.14 | challenged | is there a deb file for nvidia drivers for the new version? 76XX |
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| 01:05.54 | jordo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.09 | jim | ohad: oh, sorry... had to go then... so you backed your .config? |
| 01:06.16 | holycow | rofl! |
| 01:06.17 | holycow | jim! |
| 01:06.19 | holycow | ha! |
| 01:06.28 | ohad | jim, :) thanks for getting back |
| 01:06.28 | holycow | i had no idea you were this jim :) |
| 01:06.29 | jcarr | people usually just tell me to get the artwiz package, but that is barely enough |
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| 01:06.56 | jim | there can be only one... |
| 01:06.57 | jcarr | do I need to restart x or something? |
| 01:07.04 | holycow | heh |
| 01:07.06 | holycow | indeed :) |
| 01:07.08 | simonrvn | jcarr: i have a bunch of fonts installed on my old desktop; the larabie stuff. rather nice, if smallish |
| 01:07.28 | simonrvn | anyway, AFI |
| 01:07.30 | jcarr | simonrvn, yeah, I have about 100 TTF I like to use for logo designs |
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| 01:07.49 | ohad | jim, i used this doc -- http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ |
| 01:07.52 | jcarr | mostly from dafont.com |
| 01:08.08 | challenged | jordo23, depends in your sources.list sarge = sarge etch = testing and sid-unstable so whichever you want to go with then update dist-upgrade.... |
| 01:08.28 | jim | ohad: you got a file .config in your kernel source tree? |
| 01:08.50 | ohad | jim, yes |
| 01:09.09 | jcarr | what's this font server I am told to restart? I see posts about using fc-cache, but they end with "Now just restart the font server.. that's it! Enjoy!" |
| 01:09.19 | jim | ok, you want to first copy that file to a (visible) file outside of the kernel source tree |
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| 01:09.33 | jim | maybe just right outside |
| 01:09.34 | ohad | jim, i have two actually - 2.6.12-config and also config-2.6.12 |
| 01:09.49 | Guerin | ohad: the one the kernel uses needs to be called .config |
| 01:09.51 | eeyore- | bbl, have fun guys |
| 01:09.56 | ohad | jim, to /boot/ |
| 01:10.02 | jim | ok, these are both copies of your -desired- config? |
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| 01:10.24 | jim | and you are sure of this? |
| 01:10.43 | ruied | fuser -c /home doesn't report any user using the /home filesystem, but when I try to umount /home the system says: "...device busy" |
| 01:10.53 | jim | becasue the next step will erase it... then we have to copy it back |
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| 01:11.07 | mdh | ruied: somethings using something else underneath /home |
| 01:11.19 | jim | hmm, for some reason I'm now being pulled down in my chair... |
| 01:11.25 | mdh | ruied: you can use lsof to find out |
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| 01:11.40 | cDa | ruied: lsof |grep /home |
| 01:11.48 | cDa | ruied: try to see there if anything is using /home |
| 01:11.51 | jim | ruied: you could reboot into single user mode |
| 01:11.54 | br87 | hello |
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| 01:12.09 | ohad | Guerin, jim , i can't find .config file where is supposed to be? |
| 01:12.26 | Guerin | ohad: in the kernel source dir |
| 01:12.27 | ruied | jim: the problem is that I'm using ssh... I would loose my conection... |
| 01:12.30 | jim | in kernel source tree |
| 01:12.31 | mdh | ruied: lsof +D /home |
| 01:12.40 | br87 | i have a problem installing debian with a network install disc, it wont boot up and the floppy files that are mentioned in the readme aren't on the disc |
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| 01:12.57 | jim | ruied: so the machine is not close? |
| 01:13.01 | jcarr | GOD!!! Just someone tell me the name of the blasted "font server" all the documentation refers to, but fails to point out the name!!! I just want to use this damn font! :( |
| 01:13.06 | jcarr | I have work to do |
| 01:13.26 | ruied | mdh: doesn't report a thing... :( |
| 01:13.31 | Guerin | jcarr: stop whining. |
| 01:13.45 | gravity | jcarr: Why are you using a font server? Just drop your font in to ~/.fonts |
| 01:13.49 | jcarr | nevermind, I found it :( |
| 01:13.50 | mdh | ruied: you're not cd's inside /home? ;) |
| 01:13.50 | jordo23 | What's the package name for the new KDE? |
| 01:14.01 | Guerin | jcarr: which new kde? |
| 01:14.05 | ruied | jim, the machine is my router/firewall, I dont have any keyboard or monitor... |
| 01:14.12 | ruied | mdh: nope... |
| 01:14.14 | scarynetworkguy | jcarr: Time stamp. |
| 01:14.28 | br87 | how do i get the network install cd to boot? my computer boots other cds fine but not the network install disc |
| 01:14.32 | jordo23 | The latest version of KDE... |
| 01:14.32 | jim | ruied: oic, could you temporarily put one there? then you could do it |
| 01:14.40 | Guerin | jordo23: kde |
| 01:14.41 | witless | that bookmarks folder in gnome 2.10 is worth the upgrade alone |
| 01:14.46 | jordo23 | thanks |
| 01:15.13 | ruied | jim, it is better to reboot it... maybe... :( |
| 01:15.16 | scarynetworkguy | jcarr: http://probing.csx.cam.ac.uk/about/xfs.html |
| 01:15.16 | Guerin | br87: sure it burnt correctly? |
| 01:15.20 | jim | ruied: btw, if you are logged onto the box as nonroot user, chances are really good /home is busy... |
| 01:15.21 | gravity | witless: Bookmarks folder? |
| 01:15.32 | scarynetworkguy | Wow. Just over a minute and that includes taking time to look at my movie. |
| 01:15.37 | jordo23 | How do you check which version of KDE is installed? |
| 01:15.43 | ruied | no, Im only with root |
| 01:15.50 | toffy | sdf |
| 01:15.53 | ruied | and I'm in /root |
| 01:15.56 | br87 | the burn appeared to go smoothly and i can browse the cd. but the floppy boot files arent on the disc and theyre mentioned in the readme |
| 01:16.13 | mdh | ruied: and /home is actually a sperate filesystem and not just a directory? ;) |
| 01:16.26 | ruied | and dont have any ssh ftp conections (except the only root ssh) |
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| 01:17.09 | jordo23 | How do you check which version of KDE desktop is installed? |
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| 01:17.16 | ruied | mdh! :) yep it is a /dev/hdb (which I'm trying xfs filesystem) |
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| 01:17.29 | jim | ruied: also you could consider getting a null serial cable and hooking it up and hanging a getty on it at inittab read time |
| 01:17.32 | jcarr | dank |
| 01:17.35 | jcarr | I got em to work |
| 01:17.57 | mdh | ruied: its weird. if lsof is saying nothing has it open, then, seriously, nothing has. |
| 01:18.08 | karsten | ...and that life is a four letter word beginning with f*ck. |
| 01:18.08 | mdh | unless you've been p0wned and lsof is trojaned |
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| 01:18.23 | ruied | hmm |
| 01:18.41 | karsten | mdh: /proc/[0-9]*/fd/ should still provide useful info, unless you're hit by a kernel hack. |
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| 01:19.16 | ruied | mdh: how could I detect that? |
| 01:19.38 | karsten | ruied: md5sum check of lsof binary *and* any loaded libraries from known good media. |
| 01:19.54 | karsten | ruied: ...though an sha1 check would be safer, md5 is spoofable. |
| 01:19.59 | karsten | ruied: But not readily. |
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| 01:20.16 | jordo23 | Does anyone know how to check which version of KDE is installed on my system? |
| 01:20.29 | karsten | jordo23: dpkg -l <...> |
| 01:20.40 | Guerin | jordo23: dpkg -l konqueror |
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| 01:21.11 | MooseMan | Hey, is anyone familiar with yaboot bootloader for ppc? |
| 01:21.16 | ruied | karsten: need to check that... |
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| 01:21.23 | jim | ohad: where do you run make-kpkg from? what dir? |
| 01:21.24 | TuxMeister | hey there |
| 01:21.30 | migma | foomatic-gui somewhat has the menus "Add/Delete/Configure" disabled can anyone tell my why? |
| 01:21.45 | karsten | Guerin: Woudn't kdebase-bin be more apporpriate? |
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| 01:22.34 | migma | I'm trying to configure my printer |
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| 01:23.05 | Guerin | karsten: should be the same major version |
| 01:23.22 | Guerin | MooseMan: #debianppc might be |
| 01:23.35 | GuyInSummers | Hi there. When I set up Debian I didn't have my video card specs so I just set it to use the VESA driver... now that I know the specs I want to access a higher resolution; how do I reconfigure that? |
| 01:23.56 | Guerin | GuyInSummers: what card? |
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| 01:24.01 | jim | !drrx |
| 01:24.03 | mdh | !tell GuyInSummers about drxx |
| 01:24.20 | MooseMan | thanks for the redirection |
| 01:24.23 | GuyInSummers | it's an old Diamond card, so I assume ati drivers will work |
| 01:24.24 | op3rator | there is a spanish channel for debian? |
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| 01:24.42 | jim | op3rator: /msg dpkg es |
| 01:24.44 | mdh | !lart jim's Microsoft spelk chekur |
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| 01:25.31 | ruied | karsten: how can I check with sha1? what do I need to do? can you point me out the general steps? |
| 01:25.33 | debiancco | debian suport winchester scsi? |
| 01:25.34 | jim | ma speel chalker es gud tho dud :P |
| 01:25.55 | karsten | ruied: sha1sum |
| 01:25.59 | MobyTurbo | !aolify jim |
| 01:26.05 | jim | debiancco: if you build a kernel for it |
| 01:26.07 | karsten | ruied: sha1sum $( which lsof ) |
| 01:26.13 | Goll | hey ppl |
| 01:26.20 | debiancco | how |
| 01:26.27 | Pozican | can I apt-get sources for 2.6 kernel? I just installed debian and want to update my kernel |
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| 01:26.39 | jim | what card do you have? do you run debian? |
| 01:26.42 | karsten | Pozican: Yes. |
| 01:26.51 | Pozican | apt-get kernel-sources? |
| 01:26.55 | debiancco | adaptec 29320 |
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| 01:27.09 | jim | debiancco: oh, maybe there's a module for that |
| 01:27.29 | MobyTurbo | Pozican: apt-cache search '^kernel-' |
| 01:27.33 | manthiz | Hi all, quick quest, does "update-modules" still the way to remove or install modules? |
| 01:27.51 | jim | manthiz: or modconf |
| 01:28.07 | jim | or just editing the necessary files yourself |
| 01:28.12 | debiancco | sorry, jimm |
| 01:28.15 | green_earz | Pozican: have a look at installing a kernel image with aptitude |
| 01:28.39 | ruied | karsten: I have the sha1 now I have to compare it with other, where can I find the original sha1 of lsof? |
| 01:28.45 | manthiz | jim: k so I create or remove the file(s)on /etc/modutils and run update-modules? |
| 01:28.49 | migma | what's the best way to setup a printer? |
| 01:29.09 | karsten | ruied: You'd want to d/l it from known good sources. Preferably on another system. |
| 01:29.13 | Guerin | migma: according to the instruction on linux-printing.org |
| 01:29.20 | Gooser | i compiled kernel 2.6.11.12 and it died... i used dpkg -i to install it how do i remove it so i can try agin? with the grub boot loader? |
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| 01:29.42 | karsten | santiago: You'd need the same version you've got on your box. Might be in /var/apt/cache/archives/ |
| 01:29.48 | Guerin | Gooser: dpkg -P |
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| 01:29.51 | Gooser | ok |
| 01:29.52 | debiancco | sorry, jim |
| 01:29.57 | jim | debiancco: find /etc/modules/$(uname -r) -name "aha*" |
| 01:30.02 | debiancco | i have adaptec 19160 |
| 01:30.07 | jim | does that output anything? |
| 01:30.19 | Gooser | Guerin: will that update grub? |
| 01:30.21 | jim | 19? |
| 01:30.26 | jim | not 29? |
| 01:30.26 | debiancco | yes |
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| 01:30.30 | debiancco | 19160 |
| 01:30.33 | debiancco | very old |
| 01:30.44 | jim | that's usually a good thing |
| 01:31.00 | jim | do you have debian installed on this box now? |
| 01:31.07 | debiancco | no |
| 01:31.10 | jordo23 | What's the debian default location for the apt sources file? |
| 01:31.16 | jim | and so you're trying to? |
| 01:31.18 | debiancco | i want install |
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| 01:31.29 | MasterChief | Hi, I am new to linux and I have a question, I want to install this - http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/contrib/ftpquota - it is the ftpquota program for proftp. How do I install perl stuff? |
| 01:31.32 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.32 | MobyTurbo | jordo23: /etc/apt |
| 01:31.39 | Guerin | Gooser: no, update-grub will |
| 01:31.39 | Kepplar | Hey. I have installed mdadm on Debian, and installed with one harddrive as a raid1 device, as I didnt have the second at install time. I've used sfdisk to copy the paritions across to the second disk, but can't find much in the sense of documentation online to add another disk to an array and sync it |
| 01:31.42 | douglas | every now and then, sometimes after a week or three of serving pages, apache2 will just sort of stop.. nothing else on the machine is affected, the loads not that high .. i'll restart the server (not the system) and it'll cook for maybe an hour or a month, then out of nowhere poof, no responses. Is this a common problem? running debian, 2.6 kerne |
| 01:31.42 | MobyTurbo | jim: GMTA |
| 01:31.42 | debiancco | but debian not find winchester |
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| 01:31.56 | douglas | i asked in #apache but they're like Yup, that sounds like a problem |
| 01:31.57 | ruied | karesten: I could also reinstal it from debian apt and compare the sha1 key. am I right? |
| 01:31.58 | Gooser | Guerin: thanks |
| 01:32.01 | green_earz | migma: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-cups |
| 01:32.02 | douglas | and that's about it |
| 01:32.03 | jim | what's GMTA? |
| 01:32.24 | MobyTurbo | jim: Great Minds Think Alike |
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| 01:32.25 | jim | I'm not looking it up either :P it's YOUR dime :P |
| 01:32.35 | jim | oh :) thanks :) |
| 01:32.42 | jordo23 | Should sources.list state testing or stable for sarge? |
| 01:32.46 | MasterChief | Can somebudy help me? |
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| 01:33.12 | MobyTurbo | jordo23: stable or sarge |
| 01:33.12 | Kepplar | jordo23: "sarge" or stable |
| 01:33.30 | jim | MasterChief: maybe it's packaged already? proftpd is for sure |
| 01:33.40 | MobyTurbo | !prize Kepplar |
| 01:33.48 | jim | packages.debian.org |
| 01:33.48 | Kepplar | !prize MobyTurbo |
| 01:33.49 | Kepplar | :) |
| 01:34.16 | debianppc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.36 | jordo23 | Can someone post their sources.list file in #flood? |
| 01:34.54 | Guerin | jordo23: no. You don't need it. Make your own. |
| 01:35.01 | Guerin | jordo23: use apt-setup if you must |
| 01:35.07 | golito | hey ppl |
| 01:35.11 | Guerin | !ppl |
| 01:35.11 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
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| 01:35.29 | debianppc | !guerin |
| 01:35.30 | dpkg | Piss off. |
| 01:35.32 | MasterChief | jim: I dont thing it is, I tried to do ftpquota like it said to do to edit it and it says function doesnt exsist, I think I need to install it but how. |
| 01:35.34 | debianppc | hah |
| 01:35.39 | golito | heh |
| 01:35.55 | green_earz | jordo23: for sarge stable |
| 01:36.18 | jim | MasterChief: maybe you have to build it... but see if it is found when searching on packages.debian.org |
| 01:36.27 | MasterChief | ok |
| 01:36.55 | Guerin | grrr, distcc b0rked my kernel build |
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| 01:37.23 | MasterChief | jim: Nope, it isnt. |
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| 01:37.35 | jim | ok, so you will have to build it |
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| 01:37.44 | AcidSphinx | Hi all |
| 01:37.46 | MasterChief | How? |
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| 01:38.01 | Chat451 | Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect |
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| 01:38.04 | Chat451 | I don |
| 01:38.07 | Chat451 | 't normally get those... |
| 01:38.12 | jim | first get the source tarball... unpack... read README and INSTALL and BUILD if any or all exist |
| 01:38.14 | Guerin | Chat451: it's a recent thing. |
| 01:38.17 | Chat451 | ok |
| 01:38.52 | MasterChief | Jim: There is no downloadable file, just http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/contrib/ftpquota |
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| 01:39.01 | jim | after reading if you have further questions, ask... but please don't ignore what you read if there are parts you don't understand |
| 01:39.09 | rob_ | which file do i edit to run a comman upon (text-based) login? |
| 01:39.15 | rob_ | command* |
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| 01:39.32 | jim | MasterChief: oh... so save that file somewhere |
| 01:39.33 | AcidSphinx | I am trying to install debian but can't get it to notice my GFX card - it says some error like no screen - I have installed latest drivers - but still no - could someone point me to somewhere?? |
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| 01:39.49 | MasterChief | jim: Ok, what extension |
| 01:40.23 | jim | you don't need one but since it's a perl script you can use ftpquota.pl |
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| 01:40.51 | MobyTurbo | rob_: assuming the shell is bash, .bashrc |
| 01:40.52 | MasterChief | OK, thank you. |
| 01:40.53 | jim | btw, read ftpquota.html |
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| 01:41.23 | AcidSphinx | another thing - how do you web browse from prompt with debian?? |
| 01:41.27 | MasterChief | I already did thank you. |
| 01:41.39 | migma | AcidSphinx, apt-get install lynx |
| 01:41.42 | challenged | directhex|work, did you find a later version of nvidiadrivers? 76XX version maybee? |
| 01:41.43 | MobyTurbo | AcidSphinx: w3m, links, lynx |
| 01:42.15 | AcidSphinx | ty |
| 01:42.33 | AcidSphinx | I have Radeon X800 |
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| 01:42.44 | rob_ | MobyTurbo, um.. no. .bashrc does it for every bash term.. i just want to run something upon -login- |
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| 01:42.55 | MobyTurbo | rob_: .bash_profile |
| 01:43.05 | ssbbwlover24 | dir |
| 01:43.27 | rob_ | MobyTurbo, sexy |
| 01:43.56 | dabaR | does one install codecs on Debian to play movies and mp3s? |
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| 01:44.17 | daniel^_ | just mplayer dabaR |
| 01:44.21 | MobyTurbo | !tell dabaR -about marillat |
| 01:44.31 | challenged | davaR: sometimes yes...mp3 should work movies may not |
| 01:44.32 | chealer | dabaR: that's quite vagye |
| 01:44.39 | chealer | s/vagye/vague |
| 01:44.50 | Chat451 | mplayer is good |
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| 01:44.51 | MasterChief | jim: I just downloaded ftpquota.pl how to I do the install and build thing you talked about? |
| 01:45.02 | chealer | my Beta player apparently doesn't do DVDs |
| 01:45.05 | green_earz | AcidSphinx: use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to configure xserver. all so its very use full to know what the monitor refresh rate are. hor and ver |
| 01:45.11 | dabaR | ya, I could install mplayer, I guess...its vague cause I just installed Debian, I am able to play some video(.avi so far...) so Im just wondering... |
| 01:45.23 | dabaR | thanks. |
| 01:45.44 | MobyTurbo | dabaR: I kind of like videolan, which doesn't need non-free codecs |
| 01:45.53 | jim | MasterChief: actually it appears you don't have to if this perl script is all you need |
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| 01:46.12 | chealer | !tell challenged about info nvidia-glx experimental |
| 01:46.14 | MasterChief | Ok, well how do I run the script to install the program? |
| 01:46.15 | AcidSphinx | I might go and try what you have said - see yall around and ty |
| 01:46.24 | green_earz | dabaR: have you used totem ? for .avi |
| 01:46.27 | jim | look at the .html |
| 01:46.29 | dabaR | wow, it all works... |
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| 01:46.49 | dabaR | I mean, a .wmv file opened in gnome...and an mp3. |
| 01:46.58 | jim | it shows you what the script can do |
| 01:47.01 | thorie | hi im having trouble figuring out which firewall is blocking my packets... is there any easy way to find out? |
| 01:47.06 | MasterChief | jim: I already did, doesnt say how to install, just how to use it. |
| 01:47.14 | MobyTurbo | dabaR: for mp3s you might like xmms |
| 01:47.14 | chealer | dabaR: that doesn't mean all wmv-s will work |
| 01:47.16 | MasterChief | I know I want to install it though |
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| 01:47.35 | dabaR | Ill insatll w32 codecs and mplayer, it has been decided... |
| 01:47.36 | dabaR | :) |
| 01:47.43 | chealer | dabaR: it was vague because you didn't distinguish video formats |
| 01:47.50 | jim | well, do you want to run it like the docs say? |
| 01:47.51 | dabaR | ok. |
| 01:48.04 | MasterChief | yes |
| 01:48.15 | jim | ok, rename the file to not include any extension |
| 01:48.20 | dabaR | Debian repos also have proftpd? |
| 01:48.33 | dabaR | ya, they do... |
| 01:48.35 | MasterChief | where do I put the script |
| 01:48.53 | jim | in any dir in the list of dirs in your $PATH |
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| 01:49.40 | MasterChief | Ok, im confused. |
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| 01:49.51 | jim | echo $PATH |
| 01:50.07 | dabaR | any dir in path is searched when a command is typed into a termina; |
| 01:50.12 | MasterChief | Where is that??? Sorry im a newb |
| 01:50.25 | dabaR | if you want your script to be executable by just typing in its name into a terminal |
| 01:50.34 | MasterChief | Would it be like, usr/bin/perl? |
| 01:50.41 | dabaR | in any folder, you add the script file to one of the dirs in path |
| 01:50.50 | dabaR | usr/bin woudl work fo sho. |
| 01:50.52 | dabaR | fo sho... |
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| 01:51.15 | dabaR | I bet you guys here love fo sho... |
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| 01:51.36 | jim | MasterChief: no, becasue if you did that, you'd overwrite perl |
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| 01:52.00 | challenged | chealer cheers matey |
| 01:52.15 | MasterChief | WTF? What do I do! I just want to use the ftpquota program. |
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| 01:52.18 | jim | but you could put it in /usr/bin... this is not the best idea with debian, and suggest the better place than that is /usr/local/bin |
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| 01:52.25 | MobyTurbo | dabaR: /usr/local/bin is a better place for your own scripts |
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| 01:52.38 | MasterChief | Ok, then how do I execute the script? |
| 01:52.50 | MobyTurbo | !beer jim |
| 01:53.02 | bronxcoder | hello all |
| 01:53.19 | jim | once it's in a dir listed in your $PATH, you have to make sure it has execute permission |
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| 01:53.56 | bronxcoder | could anyone tell me were in debian are the c header files??? |
| 01:53.56 | jim | then you can run it just like the docs say as long as the dir it's in stays in your path |
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| 01:54.19 | MinDUrBzns | I have my mail in /var/mail but how can I make thuderbird get them ? |
| 01:54.23 | MasterChief | Ok, I got it to work kind of, when I try to do it it says permission denied. |
| 01:54.25 | challenged | is the hotkeys in gnome to swap workspaces? |
| 01:54.28 | MobyTurbo | bronxcoder: /usr/include |
| 01:54.38 | bronxcoder | thanx |
| 01:54.40 | MinDUrBzns | I have my mail in /var/mail but how can I make thuderbird get them ? |
| 01:54.50 | epsilon | starting mysql using /etc/init.d/mysql, where can I set additional option for mysqld? I want to set default charset |
| 01:54.54 | MobyTurbo | challenged: control+arrow-key |
| 01:54.57 | MinDUrBzns | what would be the server setting |
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| 01:55.13 | xiao | who can tell me how to build realplayer 10 under linux? |
| 01:55.23 | MobyTurbo | challenged: or is it alt? It's been a while since I've used Gnome |
| 01:55.34 | challenged | MobyTurbo, thats what i thought but its not doing anything 8/ |
| 01:55.37 | epsilon | MinDUrBzns: pop3? |
| 01:55.49 | bucky | xiao untar it and read the directions ? |
| 01:55.50 | MasterChief | jim: How do I make it so I have permission to do it, I am logged in as root why is it doing this? |
| 01:55.50 | MinDUrBzns | yes how would be the server name |
| 01:55.56 | MinDUrBzns | pop3.localhost? |
| 01:56.00 | epsilon | 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:56.06 | epsilon | or localhost |
| 01:56.11 | MinDUrBzns | thats it |
| 01:56.16 | MinDUrBzns | without pop3 |
| 01:56.16 | epsilon | or IIRC any 127.x.x.x |
| 01:56.22 | epsilon | pop3 is port |
| 01:56.24 | MobyTurbo | MasterChief: man chmod |
| 01:56.34 | MinDUrBzns | and te outgoing server ? |
| 01:56.36 | challenged | MobyTurbo, ahh found it ctrl+alt+arrow |
| 01:56.42 | jim | MasterChief: needs +x |
| 01:56.47 | epsilon | outgoing it whatever your SMTP is |
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| 01:56.55 | xiao | bucky, i build it with command make. but all the output file are too big |
| 01:57.00 | epsilon | exim, whatever |
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| 01:57.44 | MinDUrBzns | hmm |
| 01:57.45 | bucky | xiao, i don't have it on my machine anymore |
| 01:57.55 | MinDUrBzns | will see |
| 01:58.02 | xiao | bucky, anyway, thanks a lot. |
| 01:58.06 | vinux | hey all I just installed Debian for the first time. I noticed my sound card modules are not loaded. Anybody got a good link I could check out? |
| 01:58.23 | dvs | vinux: alsaconf |
| 01:58.30 | vinux | dvs, thanks |
| 01:58.39 | dvs | no prob |
| 01:58.49 | bucky | xiao, did you chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin |
| 01:59.12 | bucky | xiao, and ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin |
| 01:59.25 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.41 | simonrvn | nothing there to read from. |
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| 02:00.30 | exobyte | once I shared a windows xp internet connection. other computers on the network could dail through the connection. How can I have the modem on a linux box and still be able to manually control the connection from windows? |
| 02:00.44 | TiMiDo | what's going on ? with the alsamixer? |
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| 02:01.10 | vinux | dvs, ok I installed alsa but now It doesn't detect my PCI slot |
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| 02:01.49 | dvs | vinux: Huh? What program doesn't detect your PCI slot? |
| 02:02.08 | vinux | dvs, alsconf doesn't btw when I do lspci it's there :) |
| 02:02.13 | jim | exobyte: manually how? |
| 02:02.38 | dvs | vinux: What kernel are you using? |
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| 02:02.48 | exobyte | jim: right click the connection and tell it to connecy |
| 02:02.50 | NewpZ | hi can someone tell me the quickest way to copy a dvd? i just used 'dvdbackup' which copied all the stuff to a directory, but now i need to turn that into something i can burn.. help :) |
| 02:02.53 | vinux | dvs, the default one. should I install a new one? |
| 02:02.57 | exobyte | jim: I'm considering just looking into port forwarding |
| 02:03.03 | dvs | vinux: default one for what? |
| 02:03.11 | TiMiDo | NewpZ: k3b |
| 02:03.17 | douglas | NewpZ: you smoke newpies? |
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| 02:03.23 | dvs | vinux: /exec -o uname -r |
| 02:03.35 | vinux | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 02:03.44 | douglas | NewpZ: you may need to install some shit on top of k3b for dvd |
| 02:03.47 | douglas | it'll advise you |
| 02:03.53 | NewpZ | douglas: use to! just an old nick now :) |
| 02:04.08 | NewpZ | k3b will not do it cause its multilayered |
| 02:04.09 | dabaR | whats a newpie |
| 02:04.10 | douglas | NewpZ: just like brushing your teeth, a fresh newport |
| 02:04.12 | dvs | vinux: You need to install the alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386 package |
| 02:04.14 | jim | exobyte: that's not the usual approach...if you're going to have linux on your connection instead of windows, it's presumably becasue you want linux to act as a firewall |
| 02:04.19 | NewpZ | heh u know it |
| 02:04.20 | vinux | dvs, ok cool |
| 02:04.29 | douglas | cigarette, dabar |
| 02:04.34 | dabaR | wow |
| 02:04.39 | douglas | flavored with menthol minty goodness |
| 02:04.46 | dabaR | dabar means beaver in my lang. |
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| 02:05.04 | jim | sooounds lung-damaging to me! |
| 02:05.06 | dabaR | and now for another unrelated random fact... |
| 02:05.09 | simonrvn | what language? |
| 02:05.12 | douglas | it's like, if Linux was a cigarette, Debian would be a Newport cigarette |
| 02:05.14 | dabaR | Croatian |
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| 02:05.19 | douglas | you dig? |
| 02:05.19 | simonrvn | ah, cool |
| 02:05.22 | dabaR | haha |
| 02:05.31 | NewpZ | riiiight |
| 02:06.07 | douglas | sometimes only poetry can capture the freshening bliss that is the newport brand |
| 02:06.16 | dabaR | haha... |
| 02:06.18 | dondelelcaro | blech |
| 02:06.24 | dabaR | whats newport, some good smoke? |
| 02:06.27 | simonrvn | ok ok, enough with the ads.... |
| 02:06.31 | simonrvn | shesh |
| 02:06.32 | dabaR | ya, I guess. |
| 02:06.35 | simonrvn | sheesh even |
| 02:06.47 | douglas | "Newports: Not just for blacks anymore!" I saw that billboard |
| 02:06.56 | douglas | in connecticut on i95 |
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| 02:07.04 | simonrvn | ok, plonk it is |
| 02:07.10 | douglas | near greenwich |
| 02:07.14 | jim | the newport brand... oh no! hide your head in the sand! the burning gas will hurt you grand, whether marlboro or the newport brand.. |
| 02:07.22 | vinux | dvs, ok cool it detect it and I configured it :) |
| 02:07.24 | dondelelcaro | take the newport discussion elsewhere, please. |
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| 02:07.31 | dvs | vinux: good ;-) |
| 02:07.33 | vinux | dvs, thanks so much |
| 02:07.40 | dvs | vinux: No prob |
| 02:07.46 | douglas | ok you're right donde that's enough.. |
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| 02:08.31 | eranj | hey guys |
| 02:08.36 | douglas | Hey! |
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| 02:08.58 | eranj | Is there a way to quit root after I typed "su" in the shell? |
| 02:09.04 | dabaR | exit |
| 02:09.14 | eranj | 10x |
| 02:09.19 | subvertir | or crtl+d |
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| 02:09.23 | dabaR | well, that was easy |
| 02:09.29 | TiMiDo | ctrld |
| 02:09.31 | eranj | I've got a problem with my 2nd fat32 hd |
| 02:09.43 | TiMiDo | or exit |
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| 02:10.18 | eranj | Can I access to it somehow? |
| 02:10.40 | bucky | douglas, bridgeport? |
| 02:11.01 | CyL | eranj is it ide? |
| 02:11.14 | eranj | yes,but I can't see it in "computer" |
| 02:11.26 | kittonian | can anyone tell me whether or not the adaptec 2200S is supported by default with the netinstall ISO of Sarge? |
| 02:11.37 | CyL | eranj is it slave or master? 1st or 2nd controller? |
| 02:12.00 | vinux | dvs, do you know a good way to install nvidia drivers? |
| 02:12.00 | eranj | slave,1st controller. I saw it called "hdb" |
| 02:12.12 | dvs | vinux: Nope, I own a Radeon |
| 02:12.13 | cmihai | vinux: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 02:12.22 | CyL | eranj yes it is right... but you have to mount it firdt |
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| 02:12.29 | CyL | sorry, first |
| 02:12.33 | dvs | Welcome back! |
| 02:12.38 | dvs | Got any cheese? |
| 02:12.44 | vinux | dvs, ok cool |
| 02:12.46 | bucky | douglas, Darien? |
| 02:12.48 | vinux | cmihai, woot thanks |
| 02:12.59 | eranj | CyL: how do I mount with gnome application- disk mounter? |
| 02:13.17 | CyL | eranj you could use that.... |
| 02:13.30 | eranj | CyL: I don't understand it |
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| 02:13.37 | douglas | <- nyc |
| 02:13.38 | dabaR | there are .... |
| 02:13.41 | dabaR | hehe |
| 02:14.05 | bucky | douglas does Johnny Winter really live in Westport? |
| 02:14.33 | eranj | CyL: How do I run disk mounter as root? |
| 02:14.45 | bucky | kittonian, what kind of machine is this.. Dell ? |
| 02:14.47 | CyL | eranj oh sorry, I didn't undestarnd your question. I do not user gnome, but you could mount it issuing in the command line mount -t vfat /dev/hdb(partition #) /mnt/(whatever direcoty) |
| 02:15.09 | CyL | eranj you have to login as root first |
| 02:15.24 | kittonian | bucky, no, it's a machine I built myself |
| 02:15.28 | douglas | hang on buck afk |
| 02:15.29 | eranj | CyL: how do I find out the partition? |
| 02:15.34 | eranj | I think it's 1 |
| 02:15.39 | bucky | kittonian, i386 ? |
| 02:15.45 | kittonian | dual AMD |
| 02:15.54 | CyL | eranj if you have only one partition on thet disk it is 1... |
| 02:15.56 | bucky | kittonian, opteron? |
| 02:16.03 | kittonian | yup |
| 02:16.23 | bucky | kittonian, have you asked in #debian-amd64 ? |
| 02:16.26 | eranj | Isn't there a gui tool for that? I want my little sister to use it too |
| 02:16.54 | kittonian | no, but why would that make a difference when I'm only asking about the scsi raid card? |
| 02:17.30 | CyL | eranj if you put it in your fstab entris it would be done automatically |
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| 02:17.47 | CyL | dpkg tell eranj about fstab |
| 02:17.55 | bucky | kittonian, the installer is different.. the archetecture is different and debian amd64 isn't official yet |
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| 02:18.27 | eranj | I don't see the 2nd hd in kwikdisk |
| 02:18.38 | eranj | why's that?? |
| 02:19.37 | kittonian | bucky, understood, but as far as I know the opteron's are backwards compatible to 32-bit without issue |
| 02:19.49 | kittonian | am I wrong on that? |
| 02:20.06 | CyL | eranj sorry buddy.. I don't have all the answer... but, BTW, if you want easy-of-use put it in your fstab and frget |
| 02:20.09 | bucky | kittonian, so you want to install a 32 bit operating system on your dual opteron machine? |
| 02:20.36 | eranj | CyL: can u help me with fstab? |
| 02:21.10 | CyL | eranj Yes I can, but man fstab would help you much more than me... |
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| 02:21.39 | eranj | I need to edit fstab or is it a command? |
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| 02:21.59 | simonrvn | winnipeg dude too. neat. i lived there for a while |
| 02:22.01 | Kupal[]_ | so does anyone use fam with dnotify here? |
| 02:22.03 | kittonian | bucky, not especially, but my point in asking was whether the 2200S RAID card would be seen. I tried doing a Woody install today on the machine before I realized that Sarge had become stable and the array was not seen by the installer. So, when I go back into the office tomorrow I want to have a good grasp of what I need to do to get this box up and running. It's going to be a qmail server and I need it to run at the top of it's ga |
| 02:22.03 | kittonian | me. |
| 02:22.34 | Kupal[]_ | im looking to get a replication setup with fam and dnotify, and would appreciate any guidance.. |
| 02:22.40 | cwood | Question re xfce4 in Sid: does any package have a bug report describing the slowly-healing dependency problems? I can't find anything to describe how the upgrade from the 4.0 to 4.2 is going. |
| 02:22.48 | eranj | CyL: man says fstab reads and not writes. is that right?? |
| 02:22.56 | CyL | eranj you need to edit it |
| 02:23.02 | dondelelcaro | kittonian: the sarge installer should recognize the 2200 card if you're using the 2.6 installer. |
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| 02:23.15 | Kupal[]_ | im not sure if i need a kernel recompile that would likely be a good start.. |
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| 02:23.36 | CyL | eranj fstab is read.. it does not read.... |
| 02:23.44 | kittonian | dondelelcaro: is the 2.6 installer the default one or do I need to type something at the boot: prompt? |
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| 02:23.51 | challenged | kittonian, linux26 on sarge installer should see it the cards are supported qmail is packaged under nonfree |
| 02:24.02 | simonrvn | goddamn fucking picky submit@b.d.o it is ... |
| 02:24.10 | dondelelcaro | kittonian: linux26; at the boot prompt. This is all explained in the install manual, which it probably would be a good idea to read. |
| 02:24.12 | simonrvn | time for a smoke |
| 02:24.16 | ruied | what is the comand to edit the /passwd file checking the file integrity when writing the file ( a vi like editor) ? |
| 02:24.17 | abrotman | !smoke simonp |
| 02:24.18 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: use reportbug; then... |
| 02:24.19 | abrotman | damn |
| 02:24.22 | dondelelcaro | ruied: vipw |
| 02:24.26 | abrotman | who the hell is simonp |
| 02:24.33 | abrotman | he messed up my smoking of simonrvn |
| 02:24.38 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: yeh. gonna do that after my smoke |
| 02:24.44 | ruied | dondelelcaro; thanks |
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| 02:25.46 | kittonian | dondelelcaro: I'll take a look at that doc. I've never run into this issue before so I haven't had to do an install that's anything other than the default of hitting enter at the boot: prompt. |
| 02:25.55 | CyL | eranj shorttenning.. fstab is file that is used to determine which partitions should be mounted in wich directories using the right options... |
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| 02:26.15 | MasterChief | How come I get a permission denied message when ever I try to do perl scripts when I am logged in as root |
| 02:26.24 | Kupal[]_ | god everytime i blink the kernel driven file source changes .. imon, then dnotify, now its inotify.. jesus... |
| 02:26.29 | kittonian | if I do that, there's no reason that a netinstall won't work though right? |
| 02:26.33 | dondelelcaro | MasterChief: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 02:26.41 | dondelelcaro | kittonian: a netinst should work fine. |
| 02:26.45 | Chooch | CyL: got ya |
| 02:26.50 | kittonian | cool, thanks a bunch |
| 02:26.58 | Chooch | CyL: can I ask some more? ;-) |
| 02:27.10 | snowy` | hi, i installed debian on my laptop, and i am trying to get wireless to work. I have an intelPro 2100 card, lspci "sees" it, but iwconfig, iwlist, and ifconfig all seem to see an eth0 which is my normal network card. I found on SF ipw2100 drivers, however, before installing them, i would like to know if i can avoid doing so since it seems like the system recognizes the card (i kind of want to avoid recompiling the kernel since i got no clue |
| 02:27.11 | Vyrus001 | does anybody know what service give you the prompt "IPX Login:" when u telnet into it ?, also it is running on port 7000 (trying to indentify a service if you cant tell :P) |
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| 02:27.19 | CyL | Chooch be my guest |
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| 02:27.32 | dondelelcaro | snowy`: install ipw2100-source; and follow the instructions. |
| 02:27.37 | abrotman | !tell snowy` about ipw2100 |
| 02:27.41 | Vyrus001 | snowy` install the drivers |
| 02:27.42 | MasterChief | I downloaded a perl script, put it in usr/local/bin and then I type in ftpquota and some options and it says permission denied. - FTP quota is the script I downloaded |
| 02:27.53 | abrotman | snowy`: use the part about apt-get and module-assistant |
| 02:28.01 | dvs | MasterChief: set execute bit on the script |
| 02:28.02 | Chooch | CyL: you're terrific. let me remind... |
| 02:28.04 | vinux | dvs, hey how do you install a .deb pkg at command line? |
| 02:28.06 | Vyrus001 | snowy` your system will then identify the card and u will se 2 devices... iwconfig's ath0 and eth0 most likeley |
| 02:28.13 | dvs | vinux: dpkg -i <package-name> |
| 02:28.14 | vladster | what is a good command line audio player that is quick and simple to use? |
| 02:28.15 | dondelelcaro | MasterChief: and what does head -n 1 ftpquota; say? what is the exact output from the script? |
| 02:28.23 | vinux | dvs, thanks |
| 02:28.27 | MasterChief | dvs: Where is that at? I am new to linux and perl |
| 02:28.31 | dvs | no prob |
| 02:28.38 | abrotman | vladster: mpg321 ? |
| 02:28.41 | dvs | MasterChief: man chmod |
| 02:28.54 | Chooch | CyL: Wine ran an installation shrinked. why's that? |
| 02:28.58 | snowy` | alright, so it seems like the unanim answer is to install the drivers. I thought i didnt need to since lspci listed it. oh well! thanks :) |
| 02:29.10 | MasterChief | What do I chmod it to, 777? |
| 02:29.14 | simonrvn | no |
| 02:29.17 | abrotman | snowy`: that just means it's in the pci device file .. |
| 02:29.27 | CyL | Chooch I don't know anything about wine buddy... sorry, can't help ya |
| 02:29.27 | simonrvn | 755 should be fine |
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| 02:29.35 | dvs | MasterChief: That would work but it's not secure |
| 02:29.39 | Chooch | CyL: ok. something else |
| 02:30.11 | snowy` | i see, thanks abrotman for the clarification |
| 02:30.15 | abrotman | where's ca* that knows where that pci ID file is |
| 02:30.38 | Chooch | CyL: I want to change an owner for a directory.how do I do that? didn't understand chown |
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| 02:30.45 | snowy` | ca* ? |
| 02:31.03 | carcrashnights | I can't seem to remove mozilla. I've done 'aptitude remove mozilla' and 'aptitude purge mozilla'. |
| 02:31.08 | carcrashnights | Am I missing something? |
| 02:31.16 | ColonelKernel | Chooch, man chown |
| 02:31.18 | abrotman | snowy`: onje of the regulars |
| 02:31.37 | CyL | Chooch www.tldp.org will twll you... |
| 02:31.54 | Chooch | Is there a gui program for that? |
| 02:31.54 | challenged | carcrashnights, try using the package name from dpkg -l |
| 02:31.56 | snowy` | ah ok! well, hmm, since i am here, any link that explains what compiling a kernel is and how to do it? |
| 02:32.04 | janchao | A |
| 02:32.08 | abrotman | Chooch: xterm is a great gui! |
| 02:32.13 | ColonelKernel | carcrashnights, thats something you do with dpkg but I dont know the command |
| 02:32.18 | abrotman | !tell snowy` about kp |
| 02:32.43 | Chooch | it is,for pros |
| 02:32.43 | CyL | Chooch Just for instance, yes, you cand do it with your default desktop manager... but don't expect a gui for everything... |
| 02:32.56 | challenged | chooch: try mc midnight commander it has puldowns etc from a console to do that stuff if really dont want to learn it but its not hard |
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| 02:33.05 | abrotman | snowy`: general rule .. don't bother unless you *have* to |
| 02:33.20 | janchao | iptable |
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| 02:33.22 | ColonelKernel | Chooch, if you can't adjust to not using a gui then linux is not for you |
| 02:33.25 | snowy` | but, dont i have to in this case? |
| 02:33.29 | Chooch | now I'm not sure about the solution. |
| 02:33.38 | abrotman | snowy`: in order to do what ? |
| 02:33.47 | vladster | does not work with ogg files very well |
| 02:33.49 | snowy` | get wireless working |
| 02:34.02 | ColonelKernel | Chooch, the solution is to man chown |
| 02:34.07 | Chooch | ok |
| 02:34.07 | abrotman | snowy`: not that i'm aware |
| 02:34.11 | Chooch | but u must hear this. |
| 02:34.17 | snowy` | i need to install ipw2100 drivers... |
| 02:34.23 | janchao | why |
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| 02:34.37 | CyL | Chooch go to www.debian.org, and click documentation... really buddy.. it will be very very clarifying for you |
| 02:34.41 | dvs | that sounds like module assistant |
| 02:34.44 | abrotman | snowy`: read the part about module-assistant |
| 02:35.00 | vladster | let me rephrase that to a comand line ogg player |
| 02:35.01 | Chooch | u tell me that I should try not to use gui but If I was trying to do with parted what I did with gparted it could take me an hour |
| 02:35.10 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:35.10 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:35.15 | dondelelcaro | snowy`: yes, which is why you need ipw2100-source, module-assistant, and the kernel-headers package corresponding to your kernel. It really is quite straightforward. |
| 02:35.18 | Chooch | sorry |
| 02:35.20 | Chooch | meant you |
| 02:35.22 | abrotman | vladster: mpg321 doesn't ? |
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| 02:35.38 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: but he doesn't have to recompile the whole kernel does he ? |
| 02:35.42 | challenged | vladster mplayer.. |
| 02:35.43 | ColonelKernel | Chooch, chown is a pretty standard thing, nothing difficult, and you need to learn how not to rely on the gui for everything |
| 02:35.49 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: no. you just need the kernel-headers package |
| 02:35.54 | abrotman | right .. |
| 02:36.09 | janchao | !@ |
| 02:36.09 | dpkg | well, @ is where it's at |
| 02:36.11 | vladster | tried it and it was a garbled flash |
| 02:36.12 | Chooch | I tried with edonkeyclc,it took me a lot of time to do simple things,that's why I don't understand you |
| 02:36.13 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it really is just as easy as m-a -i ipw2100-source; or similar. The ipw2100-source package gives exact instructions. |
| 02:36.29 | Chooch | every simple thing that I wanted to do I had to use the help |
| 02:36.48 | challenged | !find gparted |
| 02:36.49 | dondelelcaro | vladster: ogg123 is the corresponding ogg player. It's in vorbis-tools, iirc. |
| 02:36.54 | challenged | !info gparted |
| 02:36.59 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'gparted' returned no results. |
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| 02:37.10 | ColonelKernel | Chooch, if you arent wiling to rtfm, then linux is not for you |
| 02:37.12 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: yes .. but i think he was under the impression he had to recompile the whole kernel |
| 02:37.26 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ah. Yeah, that's not true. |
| 02:37.27 | snowy` | yeah i was |
| 02:37.27 | Chooch | what? how do you think I've installed gparted? |
| 02:37.34 | challenged | chooch how did you get gparted? |
| 02:37.56 | vladster | much better thanx |
| 02:37.57 | challenged | chooch i dont know its not in debian repositories i dont think |
| 02:37.58 | ColonelKernel | maybe he's thinking qparted? |
| 02:37.59 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: you can, of course... but it's not necessary... (with the ipw2100-source package, you just use make-kpkg; and it's done.) |
| 02:38.00 | Chooch | I saw on its' website what I should have |
| 02:38.03 | vladster | I'm flying |
| 02:38.14 | vladster | who was in my bed last night |
| 02:38.15 | challenged | ahh qt stuff ic |
| 02:38.17 | Chooch | I mean dependencies |
| 02:38.18 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: that's what i thought .. |
| 02:38.55 | Chooch | I've compiled some programs in my life when I had no choice |
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| 02:39.32 | Shadda` | heh... |
| 02:39.33 | Shadda` | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247804 |
| 02:39.38 | Shadda` | *laugh* |
| 02:39.40 | vladster | I compile when I altered something fro a feature |
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| 02:39.56 | snowy` | well, for some reason i was under the impression i had to recompile after slightly reading from the ipw2100 site, i guess i will try the apt-get and the make-kpkg |
| 02:40.10 | abrotman | snowy`: did you see what dpkg told you about ipw2100 ? |
| 02:40.14 | challenged | chooch: so what your saying is you want a gui for everything but compiling is fine ?.....sigh |
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| 02:40.33 | abrotman | snowy`: you use module-assistant .. it's a slick thing |
| 02:40.38 | challenged | chooch: if you can compile you should be able to read a man page... |
| 02:40.47 | Chooch | no, I'm saying that sometimes you do with gui things so much faster than without |
| 02:41.05 | challenged | vladster: do you have dmix setup now? |
| 02:41.15 | ColonelKernel | Chooch, can't get much faster than chown user dir |
| 02:41.17 | Chooch | I've read. just the chown man wasn't so clear for me. I should try reading again. |
| 02:41.22 | vladster | Not sure |
| 02:41.30 | Chooch | it's true about chown |
| 02:41.51 | Chooch | but maybe not about edonkey |
| 02:42.02 | challenged | chooch: well i cant think of much i do slower in console.... |
| 02:42.07 | ColonelKernel | edonkey sucks anyhow |
| 02:42.14 | challenged | chooch: maybe xchat-text but thats coz it sucks |
| 02:42.35 | vladster | no such package |
| 02:42.51 | Chooch | try configuring,searching,downloading in edonkey.that would take you 1000 help commands |
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| 02:43.15 | vladster | Crankin' the Butt Hole Surfers |
| 02:43.21 | challenged | chooch: apps that are meant to have a gui makes sense tho.....qparted doesnt really its a waste of time IMO |
| 02:43.46 | bigbill52a | what would cause an invalid module format? |
| 02:43.47 | challenged | chooch but then i tried parted on console first because im not a gui dependent person |
| 02:44.04 | Chooch | I tell you why I went to gui |
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| 02:44.25 | challenged | !tell vladster about dmix |
| 02:44.35 | vladster | I just use it to manage all my terminals for the most part |
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| 02:44.40 | Chooch | I forgot that parted isn't cfdisk or whatever it called. so I got shocked when It asked for commands |
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| 02:44.55 | Chooch | in the gui it took just a few clicks |
| 02:45.15 | challenged | vladster, : if you need multiple sounds ......from command line it may be useful im unsure if your going to have multiple sounds apps hehe |
| 02:45.19 | Chooch | maybe gui is very fast if you know the program |
| 02:45.19 | ColonelKernel | i like qparted |
| 02:45.25 | MinDUrBzns | is there any graphical mail program that take the local mail from /var/mail/<username> like the text-based program pine ? |
| 02:45.32 | Chooch | what's qparted? |
| 02:45.35 | ColonelKernel | however im not gonna rely strictly on the gui b/c i like one gui app |
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| 02:45.45 | karsten | MinDUrBzns: Just define that as a mailbox within the program. |
| 02:45.48 | dondelelcaro | MinDUrBzns: any of them should be able to do that. |
| 02:45.50 | ColonelKernel | Chooch, lets you resize ntfs partitions on the fly |
| 02:45.57 | karsten | MinDUrBzns: More usually, you'd use procmail or another MDA to filter the mail for you. |
| 02:46.15 | karsten | dondelelcaro: To read graphical mail, obviously. |
| 02:46.21 | mdh | dondelelcaro: some people are too dumb to use mh |
| 02:46.25 | challenged | chooch: yeah but if you type mkpartfs in parted it asks you 3 or 4 questions and does the same thing.....and you dont need to load a heap of unofficial crap nor compile stuff |
| 02:46.26 | dondelelcaro | karsten: like what? |
| 02:46.27 | karsten | dondelelcaro: ...they're popular among illiterates. |
| 02:46.29 | Chooch | Can I read and write ntfs partitions straight? |
| 02:46.39 | karsten | dondelelcaro: You mean you don't get candygrams from your ex's kids? |
| 02:46.48 | dondelelcaro | Chooch: read yes, write marginally. |
| 02:46.52 | dondelelcaro | karsten: no |
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| 02:46.57 | Chooch | challenged: good to know.10x |
| 02:47.02 | MinDUrBzns | seems I am not doing it right with thunderbird |
| 02:47.04 | ColonelKernel | I dontknow of anything thatll let you reliably write to an ntfs partition |
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| 02:47.11 | mdh | dd writes to ntfs partitions very successfully |
| 02:47.18 | challenged | chooch: im not saying gui is a bad thing im just saying sometimes getting the gui is more hassle than learning the man page |
| 02:47.27 | bigbill52a | what would cause an invalid module format? |
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| 02:47.31 | MinDUrBzns | thunderbird asks me for the outgoing server and the pop3 server |
| 02:47.40 | Chooch | dondelelcaro: what's marginally? it means it can destroy something? |
| 02:47.41 | dondelelcaro | bigbill52a: trying to load something that isn't a module for starters |
| 02:47.42 | karsten | OK, random question: anyone have suggestions on figuring out who's using some random static DSL IP? |
| 02:47.45 | xw3 | how would i install the kde development packages? |
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| 02:47.56 | dondelelcaro | karsten: beyond whois? |
| 02:47.57 | CyL | bigbill52a an invalid kernel version? |
| 02:47.58 | karsten | nmap tells me it's Win2003, and DNS suggests NYC. |
| 02:47.58 | xw3 | I obviously wouldn't want to install them individualy |
| 02:48.02 | challenged | chooch cant write to ntfs really |
| 02:48.05 | karsten | dondelelcaro: Yeah. Like what the corp there is. |
| 02:48.08 | bigbill52a | invalid module format |
| 02:48.10 | vladster | multiple terminals , sure why not multiple streams |
| 02:48.19 | dondelelcaro | Chooch: it means that it works for some operations, but not all of them. |
| 02:48.20 | bigbill52a | i am trying to install the ati drivers for 64 |
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| 02:48.25 | Chooch | challenged: If I want to triple the time I need for formatting an hard drive I'll try man |
| 02:48.30 | bigbill52a | get as far as the make install |
| 02:48.35 | abrotman | karsten: arin.net ? |
| 02:48.39 | challenged | chooch cant change a file size... |
| 02:48.42 | dondelelcaro | Chooch: captive ntfs may have better results, but I've no idea how stable it is. |
| 02:48.46 | karsten | abrotman: ?? Do tell. |
| 02:48.46 | Chooch | challenged: it won't write a file even? |
| 02:49.02 | zu22 | Oi! |
| 02:49.09 | abrotman | karsten: a website ? |
| 02:49.16 | bigbill52a | error inserting fglrx |
| 02:49.22 | challenged | chooch nope itll goosh data.....ntfs is magic.... |
| 02:49.23 | bigbill52a | invalid module format |
| 02:49.41 | challenged | chooch: vfat or samba share |
| 02:49.58 | Chooch | challenged: m$ are crazy |
| 02:49.58 | bigbill52a | alien, make, (everything works to the very end) |
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| 02:50.22 | MinDUrBzns | what should be the smtp server for local mailing ? |
| 02:50.32 | karsten | abrotman: *really*? |
| 02:50.33 | abrotman | karsten: ex: http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-66-81-112-0-1 |
| 02:50.33 | MinDUrBzns | i tried localhost and it wont work |
| 02:50.34 | Chooch | challenged: samba made me a weired thing |
| 02:50.34 | zu22 | I wanna install Debian on my watch :D |
| 02:50.46 | karsten | MinDUrBzns: Either localhost or your ISP's smarthost. |
| 02:50.49 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: do you have an smtp server running on localhost? |
| 02:50.57 | abrotman | zu22: you need a bigger arm |
| 02:50.58 | challenged | challenged, sorta they also crippled making fat32 large disks to force windows users onto ntfs and thus made it a pain in the ass to migrate to linux 8( |
| 02:51.07 | MinDUrBzns | didnt check |
| 02:51.10 | MinDUrBzns | how can i know |
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| 02:51.12 | abrotman | karsten: make sense ? |
| 02:51.17 | karsten | abrotman: It's a verizon static DSL IP. Eg: static-##-##-##-##.ny325.east.verizon.net. |
| 02:51.24 | bigbill52a | you should be able to do it zu22 depending on the length of your watch |
| 02:51.26 | challenged | Chooch, , sorta they also crippled making fat32 large disks to force windows users onto ntfs and thus made it a pain in the ass to migrate to linux 8( |
| 02:51.29 | MinDUrBzns | i have exim4 wqhich i find hard to play with so I deactivated it |
| 02:51.31 | challenged | lol tab completion made me send to me on ch..... |
| 02:51.34 | abrotman | karsten: wouldn't you think .. that's a verizon IP ? |
| 02:51.37 | karsten | abrotman: ...I _know_ it's Verizon, but I'd like to know who's using it. |
| 02:51.41 | MinDUrBzns | i have mailx working fine |
| 02:51.43 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: way way back in the sands of time, you may recall installing one. |
| 02:51.49 | stouset | Holy crap. |
| 02:51.50 | abrotman | karsten: if you want to know which customer .. you'd have to call verizon .. and claim abuse or some crap |
| 02:51.52 | zu22 | bigbill52a: hehe |
| 02:51.57 | vladster | that was a massive upgrade, two version numbers |
| 02:51.57 | abrotman | stouset: you got some too ? |
| 02:51.59 | karsten | abrotman: Let's just say I've had some interesting (not in a bad way) web traffic from there. |
| 02:52.02 | stouset | karsten and abrotman are both here. I haven't seen you two in months ;) |
| 02:52.02 | zu22 | abrotman: hehe |
| 02:52.07 | Chooch | challenged: it shares the same directory with 2 names: one is homes which it should be and the other is eran which is a user to allow the network machines connect to the linux machine |
| 02:52.09 | zu22 | karsten: Milk got? (-: |
| 02:52.09 | stouset | abrotman: I did! |
| 02:52.11 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: exim4 is awful. use postfix instead |
| 02:52.14 | karsten | stouset: I've been around, quiet for a few weeks. |
| 02:52.14 | stouset | abrotman: Thanks for the gift. |
| 02:52.21 | karsten | zu22: Hmmm!? |
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| 02:52.24 | Chooch | how do I make it only 1 dir.? |
| 02:52.29 | abrotman | stouset: i've been .. at a client a few days a week .. and in WI the last week-ish |
| 02:52.32 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: but yes, having exim4 disabled means you no longer have an smtp server running on localhost, hence why it doesn't work ;) |
| 02:52.34 | MinDUrBzns | ok is postfix easy and what would be the smtp for it? |
| 02:52.37 | zamzam | with apt, is there a way to list out all of the available packages? |
| 02:52.41 | stouset | MinDUrBzns: Yes. |
| 02:52.43 | MinDUrBzns | I want something that works with thunderbird |
| 02:53.00 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: you can use your upstream ISP's mail server |
| 02:53.01 | MinDUrBzns | so |
| 02:53.01 | stouset | MinDUrBzns: Um, why wouldn't it? |
| 02:53.01 | abrotman | stouset: but my debstats ain't doing so bad :) |
| 02:53.08 | MinDUrBzns | should I uninstall exim4? |
| 02:53.08 | stouset | !seen abrotman |
| 02:53.09 | dpkg | abrotman is currently on #debian (40m 41s). Has said a total of 107803 messages. Is idling for 6s |
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| 02:53.13 | bigbill52a | i tried it with both the generic and the k8 kernel and get the same results... |
| 02:53.15 | stouset | Bah, only 107,000 messages? |
| 02:53.24 | challenged | chooch: i dont really use samba so i cant advise you why that happens althou if you like guis for everything theres a webmin addon for samba and about everything else hehe |
| 02:53.25 | abrotman | !debstats |
| 02:53.25 | dpkg | debstats is probably managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 02:53.41 | bigbill52a | going for a smoke... |
| 02:53.41 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: some services might like a local smtp server. postfix is very easy and is very well documented also. |
| 02:53.42 | Chooch | I got swa |
| 02:53.43 | zamzam | is there a way to view all of the available packages with apt? |
| 02:53.49 | Chooch | I got swat which helped me a lot |
| 02:54.00 | bigbill52a | and to kill a couple of bunnies |
| 02:54.03 | mdh | zamzam: apt-cache search |
| 02:54.04 | stouset | Number of lines |
| 02:54.04 | stouset | ? |
| 02:54.05 | MinDUrBzns | cool i will try postfix, but should I uninstall exim4 first? |
| 02:54.12 | stouset | Since when? |
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| 02:54.31 | vladster | looks like it works |
| 02:54.32 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: you won't have to, they'll conflict |
| 02:54.37 | MinDUrBzns | I didnt install exim4 to be honest, i installed apache which it came with it |
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| 02:54.41 | abrotman | stouset: not bad considering i was never in this channel until .. say .. january 2004 |
| 02:54.43 | stouset | Hey, I'm 29th! |
| 02:54.51 | stouset | Haha, yeah, only a year and a half ago! |
| 02:54.52 | abrotman | stouset: maybe .. november 2003 |
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| 02:55.07 | zu22 | stouset: welcome to the club |
| 02:55.15 | MinDUrBzns | ok will try thanx will try now |
| 02:55.17 | MinDUrBzns | but last qs |
| 02:55.23 | MinDUrBzns | after installing the postfix |
| 02:55.33 | Chooch | challenged: what's amazing is that it's not possible for this to happen.. |
| 02:55.38 | zu22 | karsten: what is your website address? i lost it |
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| 02:55.42 | MinDUrBzns | what will be the stmp is it stmp.localhost |
| 02:55.48 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: localhost |
| 02:55.48 | MinDUrBzns | ot just localhost |
| 02:55.52 | MinDUrBzns | good |
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| 02:56.02 | challenged | chooch sure it it...it happened.. |
| 02:56.19 | MinDUrBzns | how about the the var/mail/<user> pool |
| 02:56.26 | Chooch | challenged: I guess I can't argue with the facts |
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| 02:57.02 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: that'll be fine. |
| 02:57.32 | challenged | Chooch, grab swat or webmin-samba and see what come up when the gui parses the conf files...it may look more obvious as to whats wrong in those? as i say i dont use samba atm so i dunno |
| 02:57.33 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: postfix supports a whole bunch of different on-disk formats including unix mbox which is the default in there. |
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| 02:58.08 | MinDUrBzns | mdh cool |
| 02:58.16 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: there's a #postfix here too if you need postfix-specific help |
| 02:58.18 | MinDUrBzns | it started removing exim4 right now, they conflict |
| 02:58.25 | MinDUrBzns | man apt-get is awesome |
| 02:58.26 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: but definately read the docs, they're great |
| 02:58.29 | bigbill52a | so when i saw the words invalid module format...in a moment of irrational wrath i killed a few bunnies... |
| 02:58.33 | MinDUrBzns | thanx mdh |
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| 02:58.47 | Chooch | challenged: I got only "homes" share |
| 02:58.53 | MinDUrBzns | who made apt-get?? whois this genius ? |
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| 02:59.03 | MinDUrBzns | apt |
| 02:59.23 | challenged | chooch don't user homes get shared as defualt on install? |
| 02:59.24 | stouset | MinDUrBzns: Howard Dean. |
| 02:59.27 | bigbill52a | and i am keeping the rest hostage.. |
| 02:59.32 | MinDUrBzns | apt is clever more advanced and intellegent than urpmi |
| 02:59.44 | challenged | chooch ie they can samba into their own home directories with their own credentials? |
| 02:59.44 | Chooch | challenged: what do you mean? |
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| 03:00.02 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: its because it gets to use debs, which are much better than rpms |
| 03:00.25 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: the dependencies etc have nothing to do with apt, really |
| 03:00.34 | vinux | hey guys what's the big difference between 2.4 kernel and 2.6? I mean I don't have to switch do it? |
| 03:00.35 | mdh | apt can just make use of them |
| 03:00.36 | challenged | does debian's samba packages autoshare home directories for the users? |
| 03:01.06 | challenged | vinux: 2.6 has sound and sata etc in it so more support.... |
| 03:01.16 | Chooch | challenged: I'm not sure |
| 03:01.24 | vinux | challenged, oh ok |
| 03:01.40 | MinDUrBzns | over the last 5 years i have tried many distros, ranging from redhat, its son fedora, mandrake, and suse..and others, and always had problem with dependency unsolved, the first time i have a reliable box with easy to install apps, is when i had debian |
| 03:01.40 | myren | vinux: they revamped threading in 2.6, its perposterously faster |
| 03:01.51 | vinux | myren, hehe |
| 03:02.15 | myren | vinux: it mainly matters for scalability, but if you are running a high number of threads you really should consider switching. |
| 03:02.16 | challenged | vinux: 2.4 and 2.6 are both getting security updates but new development is in the 2.6.12/13kernels |
| 03:02.20 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: what do all those other distros have in common? RPM. rpm sucks. |
| 03:02.29 | MinDUrBzns | yeah |
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| 03:02.45 | vinux | myren, challenged oh ok thanks for info |
| 03:02.48 | mdh | MinDUrBzns: rpm is better than nothing at all, but only just |
| 03:03.04 | MinDUrBzns | i decided to buy a text book on debian |
| 03:03.12 | MinDUrBzns | any recommendations ? |
| 03:03.23 | Chooch | challenged: so what do you say? |
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| 03:03.34 | vinux | Hey guys how can I update my source? I want to install mplayer |
| 03:03.38 | challenged | MinDUrBzns, theres a new sarge 3.1 book....thats the latest one i think |
| 03:03.58 | challenged | chooch: i would guess its a defualt to share homes....but i dont know |
| 03:04.07 | mdh | vinux: apt-get update |
| 03:04.18 | challenged | !tell vinux about marrilat |
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| 03:04.27 | Chooch | challenged: it's fine that it share homes. but why the same thing is also shared as eran? |
| 03:04.35 | vinux | challenged, marrilat? |
| 03:04.38 | Chooch | challenged: same directory |
| 03:04.50 | mdh | marillat |
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| 03:04.51 | mdh | ffs |
| 03:04.52 | spacelobster | does mozilla have an html editor? |
| 03:04.58 | mdh | learn to spell french guys names properly! |
| 03:05.00 | challenged | !tell vinux about marillat |
| 03:05.04 | golito | spacelobster, mozilla -edit |
| 03:05.27 | challenged | chooch thats a user name? |
| 03:05.38 | chile | hellp |
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| 03:05.43 | chile | help |
| 03:05.44 | benian | on |
| 03:05.52 | Chooch | no. I've created a new user called eran for the other machine to connect to the linux machine |
| 03:05.56 | chile | form chile |
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| 03:06.07 | chile | quien save español |
| 03:06.10 | bucky | spacelobster, i like Nview... it based on composer but you have to download it and uzip it into /usr/local |
| 03:06.19 | mdh | !debian-es |
| 03:06.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:06.26 | Chooch | challenged: same directory shows as homes and eran |
| 03:06.28 | spacelobster | bucky thanks |
| 03:06.55 | jmd | What package(s) do I need to install when xpdf prints heaps of Error: No display font for 'xxx' message ? |
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| 03:07.03 | vladster | time for work, see y'all |
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| 03:07.17 | challenged | chooch: no idea try #samba seeings no one is knowing here maybee |
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| 03:07.33 | mdh | Chooch: samba in the smb.conf explicitly sets shares |
| 03:07.35 | chile | como se veian games |
| 03:07.38 | Chooch | challenged: sorry... I forgot about this channel... |
| 03:07.42 | mdh | !debian-es |
| 03:07.42 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:07.45 | azadder | Hey guys, I am a new linux/debian user... I was wondering if this was a place that I could get questions answered... I want to change my screen resolution to 1024x768...but I've only been able to find the options to change tomax of 800x600... any help would be appreciated... |
| 03:07.47 | chile | pa dodwload |
| 03:08.19 | Draconicus | I need to make the initrd file for my newly compiled kernel as one currently does not exist. What do I do? |
| 03:08.28 | Chooch | mdh: I'm reading the smb.conf,nothing's there |
| 03:08.32 | mdh | mi pollo no tiene ningún labio |
| 03:08.48 | Chooch | mdh: maybe cuz eran is in the admin list? |
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| 03:08.57 | mdh | Chooch: there has to be, otherwise you would have no shares at all |
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| 03:09.07 | challenged | !tell azadder about drxx |
| 03:09.16 | Chooch | mdh: that's what I thought... |
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| 03:09.35 | challenged | azadder theres a part where it shows resolutions "AVAILABLE" for use ie make sure higher ones are allowed |
| 03:09.38 | mdh | samba just justn't make up bullshit shares out of thin air. |
| 03:09.48 | Chooch | challenged: I had another question for you... |
| 03:09.48 | mdh | s/justn/doesn/ |
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| 03:10.02 | djkytra | cia |
| 03:10.08 | djkytra | qualche italiano? |
| 03:10.13 | challenged | chooch shoot |
| 03:10.27 | mdh | Chooch: it can do some funky stuff, like let you have one entry that generates a home share for every user rather than having to specify an explicit share, ... |
| 03:10.32 | djkytra | hi challenged |
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| 03:10.36 | challenged | !it |
| 03:10.36 | dpkg | from memory, italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 03:10.42 | djkytra | i can help me? |
| 03:10.48 | Chooch | challenged: How do I make sure my monitor is recognized? |
| 03:10.52 | djkytra | you can help me? |
| 03:10.56 | challenged | ill try hehe whats up? |
| 03:10.59 | mdh | djkytra: helping yourself is the name of the game ;) |
| 03:11.09 | Chooch | mdh: is that a bug?? |
| 03:11.11 | djkytra | how to install x windows on debian? |
| 03:11.27 | mdh | Chooch: no, its a feature! |
| 03:11.27 | challenged | chooch: as in all the resolutions possible? |
| 03:11.28 | abrotman | djkytra: which window manager do you want ? |
| 03:11.43 | Chooch | mdh: oh... silly me |
| 03:11.50 | mdh | Chooch: when you have 10,000 users you don't want to manually maintain a smb share list for each one |
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| 03:12.08 | abrotman | well .. oyu might want to .. it's a bad idea :) |
| 03:12.13 | Chooch | challenged: as in showing Philips and not generic |
| 03:12.28 | djkytra | kde |
| 03:12.32 | djkytra | or xpde |
| 03:12.38 | TwistedEmotions | Hahahah watching Beauty and the Geek... this shit is funny. |
| 03:12.42 | challenged | !tell chooch about drxx |
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| 03:12.52 | djkytra | chooch: kde or xpde |
| 03:13.23 | abrotman | djkytra: apt-get install kde x-window-system discover menu kdm |
| 03:13.27 | challenged | chooch do what dpkg says and name your monitor when it asks you what the refresh rates etc are.... |
| 03:13.33 | Draconicus | What the hell? dpkg's info on initrd says that it is "god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image." while all previous kernels I've had were prebuilt and had functioning initrd files, my new, freshly compiled 2.6.12 kernel did not make its own initrd file and is thus making booting the kernel nearly impossible. Anyway, a bit of help with the initrd problem/ |
| 03:13.35 | Draconicus | ?* |
| 03:13.51 | mdh | djkytra: apt-get install kdesktop |
| 03:13.54 | challenged | chooch: hwinfo will allow you to know what monitor settings are if you dont know.. |
| 03:13.57 | Chooch | challenged: I'm afraid of breaking something, can't I just get the info? |
| 03:14.04 | azadder | Where can I make more resolutions availible...im looking... |
| 03:14.11 | Chooch | challenged: that's what I need! |
| 03:14.16 | bucky | Draconicus, man mkinitrd |
| 03:14.23 | djkytra | abrotman: now I try |
| 03:14.32 | challenged | Draconicus, --initrd in your kpkg line.. |
| 03:14.59 | challenged | Draconicus, or make it the other way as bucky said |
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| 03:15.17 | Chooch | challenged: don't laugh but how come lshw-gtk only shows motherboard information? |
| 03:15.31 | stouset | !seen shingouz |
| 03:15.32 | dpkg | shingouz is currently on #debian (10h 35m 31s). Has said a total of 13206 messages. Is idling for 5h 16m 42s |
| 03:15.49 | shingouz | stouset: pbbblt |
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| 03:15.49 | Chooch | !seen eranj |
| 03:15.50 | dpkg | eranj <~ej@IGLD-83-130-54-10.inter.net.il> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 53m 1s ago, saying: 'CyL: man says fstab reads and not writes. is that right??'. |
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| 03:16.41 | shingouz | i'll idle a few more, i need to grab a couple of hours of z's i think |
| 03:16.47 | djkytra | mdh: packet not found |
| 03:17.05 | challenged | chooch um i think you may need lmsensors or something...i dont tend to minitor my hardware as nothing works with sata yet hehe |
| 03:17.40 | Chooch | challenged: it shows all the info. with lshw |
| 03:17.42 | Cyano-Mobile | after configuring my sound with alsaconf how do I add a mixer |
| 03:17.53 | shingouz | Chooch: is that a Thinkpad you want to have the lmsensors on? |
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| 03:18.10 | challenged | chooch aahh no idea sorry 8( |
| 03:18.22 | Chooch | no, just a old pentium 3 for downloads |
| 03:18.30 | challenged | Cyano-Mobile, as in more than 1 sound at a time? |
| 03:18.32 | azadder | How do I change my screen resolution to one that isn't on the pre-selectable list? |
| 03:18.34 | bucky | Cyano-Mobile, type alsamixer as user |
| 03:18.38 | djkytra | mdh??? |
| 03:18.41 | karsten | zu22: Personal webpage? |
| 03:18.42 | shingouz | Chooch: ok, nothing in that case. /me installs sleep |
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| 03:18.47 | mdh | djkytra: do what abrotman suggested |
| 03:18.47 | Chooch | challenged: you've helped me so much, you don't need to be sorry |
| 03:18.52 | karsten | zu22: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ |
| 03:19.05 | mdh | djkytra: maybe my packages list is munged |
| 03:19.13 | abrotman | !win me |
| 03:19.14 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a one way ticket to Christmas Island! |
| 03:19.19 | Chooch | shingouz: I hate thinkpads for their specs. |
| 03:19.34 | challenged | azadder you may be able to edit /etc/X11/Xfree86 Config.....check capitals hehe |
| 03:19.34 | izzo | To use a Bluetooth dongle on linux does it have to be the BCM203X chipset? |
| 03:19.42 | challenged | azadder: widescreen or something? |
| 03:19.44 | bigbill52a | invalid module format? |
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| 03:19.51 | shingouz | Chooch: i love thinkpads for their specs and durability |
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| 03:19.59 | challenged | chooch: hehe i like to know answers hehe |
| 03:20.05 | Overand | hm |
| 03:20.11 | karsten | Overand: ? |
| 03:20.15 | karsten | Overand: Join spam? |
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| 03:20.21 | Chooch | challenged: so u're good for me. I got this all bunch of questions |
| 03:20.26 | Overand | irc client seemed desynced |
| 03:20.32 | Cyano-Mobile | bucky: alsamixer works but still can't use kmix |
| 03:20.43 | Overand | ha |
| 03:21.10 | Chooch | challenged: is there a cool mp3 mixing program you know? with turntables and stuff? |
| 03:21.11 | bucky | Cyano-Mobile, kmix might be an oss app.. try apt-get install alsa-oss |
| 03:21.40 | Chooch | like mj studio,virtual dj and stuff |
| 03:21.44 | Draconicus | bucky and/or challenged: What about the makefile in /init (in the kernel's source directory)? |
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| 03:22.11 | bucky | what about it? |
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| 03:22.23 | Draconicus | That isn't to build the initrd file? |
| 03:22.25 | karsten | Chooch: Hrm. There's audacity, which is an audio editor, but not a mixer. |
| 03:22.32 | bucky | nope |
| 03:22.36 | Draconicus | Oh. |
| 03:22.39 | karsten | Chooch: ...well, not a turntable mixer. |
| 03:22.52 | lucasjb | Hiyas, I'm trying to hunt down a library called libirc.a which apparently is part of some Intel compiler. I can't seem to find it by asking apt or using apt-file, anyone know where I can get this lib? |
| 03:23.14 | Chooch | I wanted some turntable mixer to practice my dj skills |
| 03:23.18 | Chooch | lol |
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| 03:23.24 | thomas_adam | [n6tadam@station trayer-1.0]$ apt-file search libirc.a |
| 03:23.24 | thomas_adam | irssi-snapshot-dev: usr/lib/irssi/src/irc/libirc.a |
| 03:23.25 | karsten | lucasjb: .a would be an assembler file. |
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| 03:23.37 | karsten | lucasjb: You probably want libirc.c |
| 03:23.38 | lucasjb | thomas_adam, i don't think that's it |
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| 03:23.53 | thomas_adam | lucasjb: No? OK. Google away, then. |
| 03:24.39 | karsten | Chooch: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/ClickysQuest-DontTryThisAtHome.ogg |
| 03:24.47 | lucasjb | karsten, thomas_adam, I'm trying to rebuild php4 with oracle support and the configure script is halting looking for that lib... |
| 03:24.47 | karsten | Chooch: ...for a sample of Audacity output. |
| 03:24.48 | izzo | To use a Bluetooth dongle on linux does it have to be the BCM203X chipset? |
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| 03:24.50 | Draconicus | Bucky: I'm a little confused. Do I have to put all the desired modules and vital components in various branches of /etc/mkinitrd? |
| 03:25.04 | thomas_adam | lucasjb: Ah, some more clues. |
| 03:25.09 | thomas_adam | lucasjb: Ask in #php |
| 03:25.13 | karsten | lucasjb: You assemble code to get a '.a' file. Which is about the limit of my technical expertise. |
| 03:25.22 | lucasjb | thomas_adam, thanks |
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| 03:25.28 | lucasjb | karsten, hehe, thanks |
| 03:25.32 | Cyano-Mobile | bucky: alsa-oss is already installed how do I use it? man alsa-oss don't give any help at all |
| 03:25.36 | abrotman | lucasjb: the packages have oracle support afaik |
| 03:25.37 | subvertir | lucasjb, what are you trying to do? |
| 03:25.40 | abrotman | or odbc anyways |
| 03:25.42 | TwistedEmotions | karsten: hey when is the linux expo |
| 03:25.43 | TwistedEmotions | ? |
| 03:25.53 | karsten | TwistedEmotions: Sometime around Aug 14. |
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| 03:26.00 | karsten | TwistedEmotions: ...which is when PixNix is. |
| 03:26.09 | karsten | TwistedEmotions: ...or PicNix. Whatever they call it. |
| 03:26.09 | abrotman | php4-odbc - ODBC module for php4 |
| 03:26.18 | bucky | Draconicus, cd /boot ; mkintrd -o initrd.img-2.6.12 2.6.12 ; edit grub |
| 03:26.25 | lucasjb | abrotman, I want the oci8 extension. |
| 03:26.25 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: yoyoy |
| 03:26.38 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what shit we talking about? (= |
| 03:26.42 | bigbill52a | so i am wondering..mayb i should just dump amd-64..since i can install the ati drivers |
| 03:26.43 | lucasjb | subvertir, rebuild the debian php4 packages with the oci8 extension using oracle instant client libs |
| 03:26.46 | bucky | Cyano-Mobile, i don't know.. kde sucks... maybe you need artsd |
| 03:26.52 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: The beauty and the Geek |
| 03:26.56 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you know if parking is gonna be free for the first week or something? |
| 03:27.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nah why? |
| 03:27.01 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: channel 13 |
| 03:27.01 | abrotman | lucasjb: did you ask #php |
| 03:27.05 | bigbill52a | invalid module format? |
| 03:27.06 | lucasjb | abrotman, not yet |
| 03:27.07 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: funny shit. |
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| 03:27.17 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: let me see if i have that channel. (= |
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| 03:27.29 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you mean at DVC? They dont ticket for the first week |
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| 03:27.40 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: cool. |
| 03:27.58 | lucasjb | abrotman, I'm pretty sure I just need that libirc.a file, that's what my Googling tells me but I don't know if Debian has it packaged. |
| 03:28.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i dont know if the class is gonna get cancel or not so i havent bought the permit yet. |
| 03:28.15 | abrotman | !tell lucasjb about search |
| 03:28.16 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: these guys know as much about picking up women as much as I know about linux ;O |
| 03:28.18 | _cat_ | #debian in freenode and irc.debian.org is the same channel ? |
| 03:28.24 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:28.27 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ohh... then dont buy it. |
| 03:28.27 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: so, fuck-all, then. |
| 03:28.31 | Chooch | challenged: can I get rid of exim4? |
| 03:28.34 | bigbill52a | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.35 | lucasjb | abrotman, yes i tried that ie, /msg apt find libirc.a |
| 03:28.44 | lucasjb | abrotman, it returns the file from issri dev |
| 03:28.44 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: that means they know some shit then? (= |
| 03:28.48 | Draconicus | bucky: Ah! Now I see. Much simpler than I first thought. Manual files are often so elaborate that it's painful and confusing, especially when one is so lacking in sleep as I currently am. Thanks. |
| 03:28.48 | _cat_ | list |
| 03:28.48 | thomas_adam | lucasjb: Ask in #php |
| 03:28.49 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: EXACTLY. |
| 03:28.53 | abrotman | lucasjb: makes sense to me |
| 03:28.53 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no. |
| 03:29.09 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: they know apt-get install women |
| 03:29.14 | izzo | To use a Bluetooth dongle on linux does it have to be the BCM203X chipset? |
| 03:29.19 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: haha. actually jimmy kimmel made fun of 2 dudes from the show once. it was kinna funny. |
| 03:29.22 | epsilon | how can I set owner/group/permission for logfiles? Currently it's root:root 640 by default, but I want to make the error log readable for one non-root user |
| 03:29.28 | Draconicus | ....I don't have mkinitrd?! |
| 03:29.35 | epsilon | I mean Apache logfile |
| 03:29.38 | lucasjb | abrotman, yeah :( |
| 03:29.39 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Which log? |
| 03:29.41 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: dude these guys are squares.. |
| 03:29.49 | Draconicus | Oh |
| 03:29.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahaha. worst then me? (= |
| 03:29.56 | Draconicus | usr/sbin/mkinitrd |
| 03:29.57 | Draconicus | Found it. |
| 03:30.07 | rok45 | just use --initrd when u make it ;P |
| 03:30.15 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: your casanova compared to these guys... hahahah |
| 03:30.16 | bucky | Draconicus, you need to be su to write it |
| 03:30.25 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Eh? The logfiles _are_ readableby non-root. |
| 03:30.34 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: deadcat has casanova? |
| 03:30.36 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: whats channel 13 if i dont hvae cable? |
| 03:30.47 | epsilon | thomas_adam: apache1 writes logfiles as root:root 644 |
| 03:30.47 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: WB |
| 03:30.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ah. |
| 03:30.56 | bucky | deadcat, fox |
| 03:31.01 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Not on my box running apache1, it doesn;t. |
| 03:31.08 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: deadcat IS casanova compared to these guys.. |
| 03:31.15 | deadcat | bucky: fox is good at ripping off people's shows (= |
| 03:31.16 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: well, say that, then. |
| 03:31.20 | Chooch | How do get to the first screen mplayer showed me. something about codecs? |
| 03:31.30 | thomas_adam | epsilon: And if it did -- 644 is still non-root readable. |
| 03:31.30 | _cat_ | irc.debian.org and freenode is the same server ? |
| 03:31.32 | Chooch | How do get to the first screen mplayer showed me? something about codecs... |
| 03:31.41 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: ;) I thought I did.. |
| 03:31.43 | izzo | To use a Bluetooth dongle on linux does it have to be the BCM203X chipset? |
| 03:31.50 | Draconicus | bucky: of course, but mkinitrd wasn't a command even as root.. |
| 03:31.50 | deadcat | Chooch: what the hell you smoking? |
| 03:31.54 | epsilon | thomas_adam: I mean root:root 640 as default |
| 03:32.05 | Chooch | deadcat: huh?! |
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| 03:32.07 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Now you're confusing me. |
| 03:32.09 | bucky | Draconicus, is it installed? your path is all fucked up |
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| 03:32.36 | Draconicus | bucky: That it is. It actually complains that /usr/sbin/mkinitrd does not exist, when it does. UGH. |
| 03:32.42 | epsilon | thomas_adam: Apache1/Sarge writes logfiles with root:root 640. I want it change to root:<user> 640. |
| 03:32.52 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: /msg dpkg your |
| 03:32.55 | epsilon | thomas_adam: with <user> I specify |
| 03:32.55 | bucky | Draconicus, which version of debian are you using? |
| 03:33.05 | thomas_adam | epsilon: set the directory about it to SGID. |
| 03:33.09 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: Awww.. kk |
| 03:33.09 | myren | anyone have recommendations for developing a windows device driver? i want to make a windows esound sound driver. |
| 03:33.15 | epsilon | thomas_adam: good idea |
| 03:33.20 | myren | recommendations as to where to turn |
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| 03:33.27 | Guerin | myren: turn away. |
| 03:33.27 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Which is a bad idea, IMO. |
| 03:33.36 | epsilon | thomas_adam: why? |
| 03:33.54 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Because I wonder what it is you want to do by changing the default perms. |
| 03:34.03 | izzo | To use a Bluetooth dongle on linux does it have to be the BCM203X chipset? |
| 03:34.11 | myren | Guerin: i need more sound. :( |
| 03:34.11 | thomas_adam | izzo: Repeat some more. |
| 03:34.16 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: wants his logfiles readable by someone in adm, probably |
| 03:34.21 | Guerin | bah |
| 03:34.25 | Guerin | thomas_adam: ^^^^^ |
| 03:34.30 | Draconicus | bucky: testing.. etch.. whatever you want to call it. I'm doing this under a pre-compiled 2.6.8 kernel. |
| 03:34.42 | myren | linux is the one ring to bind and rule them all, unfortunately it means playing with other dark forces too |
| 03:34.42 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: was wondering what you were talking about... ;) heheheh |
| 03:34.50 | epsilon | thomas_adam: my goal is to allow webmaster to access error-logs - and unless webmaster don't have root-access... |
| 03:35.05 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Of course, by setting the directory the logfiles are in to SGID, you must ensure the group ownership on that dir is also set properly to what you want. |
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| 03:35.16 | bucky | Draconicus, apt-get install initrd-tools |
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| 03:35.35 | doug | epsilon, schmaud or shagroop .. permissions |
| 03:35.40 | jim | for every little piece of linux/unix userland... it has its own details that you can learn or gloss over... |
| 03:36.14 | thomas_adam | epsilon: If you don't know how to SGID, then you won't know why you need or want to change it in the first place. I assume you can handle that OK? |
| 03:37.37 | Draconicus | bucky: Oh! I found the problem. In my tired state I didn't notice a typo you had made and had lazily copied your line of commands, as most people do. |
| 03:38.01 | bucky | Draconicus, i made a typo? |
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| 03:38.02 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: No, most people with a brain *check* the commands first. |
| 03:38.08 | _cat | can i add unbutu source to debian source.list ? |
| 03:38.18 | Guerin | thomas_adam: you're presuming most people have a brain. A common mistake. |
| 03:38.23 | thomas_adam | _cat: Yes. Will it break your system. Yes. Is it a good idea. No. |
| 03:38.29 | jim | thomas_adam: if that is the case, then no one has a brain anywhere anytime |
| 03:39.07 | Draconicus | bucky: I believe so. "mkintrd" instead of "mkinitrd". However, it was my fault for copying it. Everyone makes the occasional typo. |
| 03:39.22 | jim | _cat: besides, you can get anything ubuntu has that's generally useful |
| 03:39.28 | _cat | thomas_adam: you are a standard American |
| 03:39.37 | thomas_adam | _cat: Wrong. |
| 03:39.39 | Draconicus | Anyway... um.. bucky: /lib/modules/2.6.12: Not a directory |
| 03:39.45 | thomas_adam | _cat: I'm English. |
| 03:39.56 | bucky | Draconicus, oh.. ok... what are you going to do when you mouse doesn't work because you didn't build pointer device and psmouse into the kernel? |
| 03:40.02 | jim | _cat: for telling you the truth? good... I'm a standard american too! |
| 03:40.02 | Guerin | Draconicus: the exact name of the dir, svp |
| 03:40.09 | epsilon | thomas_adam: sure, but of cource it'll be more "natural" if I could tell apache what owner it has to set for logfiles |
| 03:40.17 | bucky | Draconicus, you told me you were building a 2.6.12 kernel |
| 03:40.31 | bucky | Draconicus, wtf are you doing? |
| 03:40.53 | Draconicus | That was an output of mkinitrd. Relax. I understand the problem now. |
| 03:40.54 | Guerin | the dir won't be called 2.6.12 - it'll be called 2.6.12-foo-bar |
| 03:41.06 | Draconicus | Likely not that either. |
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| 03:41.35 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Just use SGID. |
| 03:41.39 | bucky | Draconicus, whats in /lib/modules ? what kernel did you build or do you want me to read your mind some more |
| 03:41.40 | thomas_adam | epsilon: Or ask in #apache. |
| 03:41.48 | _cat | "Yes. Will it break your system. Yes. Is it a good idea. No."--------often see words like this in american videos |
| 03:42.04 | thomas_adam | _cat: You live a sheltered life... it's OK. |
| 03:42.08 | Guerin | _cat: ...? |
| 03:42.17 | Draconicus | Whoa... there seriously is no module for it. Bucky, I'm making a 2.6.12 kernel. I believe I've said that a few times. |
| 03:42.25 | Draconicus | err |
| 03:42.31 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: Yes, and psmouse is still used. |
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| 03:42.37 | Draconicus | No module directory... /lib/modules/... gyar... |
| 03:42.45 | Draconicus | I need sleep badly. |
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| 03:42.58 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: What makes you think you need to build a new kernel, anyway? |
| 03:43.06 | jim | Draconicus: you might want to get the debian 2.6.11 .config, stick it in there and make oldconfig |
| 03:43.13 | doug | holy shit a high-trafficked website has hotlinked a shit ton of my images and i'm on 50KB/s out DSL |
| 03:43.19 | bucky | Draconicus, you didn't make modules_install |
| 03:43.24 | doug | Goddamnit i do not need this |
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| 03:43.28 | thomas_adam | doug: So play around with robots.txt |
| 03:43.38 | _cat | thomas_adam: you mean English also talks like that |
| 03:43.47 | thomas_adam | _cat: I mean you need to stop being a troll. |
| 03:43.52 | bucky | doug, assambassadors? |
| 03:44.00 | jim | doug: or deny them at the firewall |
| 03:44.06 | challenged | changing libc6 likely to cause me problems? |
| 03:44.07 | Draconicus | thomas_adam: Firstly, the one I have is old. Second, the latest kernel has some vital USB hub error fixes and some other problem mends. In addition, my system has been going to hell with all sorts of problems that can be traced to having a prebuilt kernel image. |
| 03:44.17 | Draconicus | image might not be the right word there... |
| 03:44.19 | dondelelcaro | challenged: to one that's not in Debian? definetly. |
| 03:44.26 | technos | doug: Time to replace them with 1x1 gifs, or redirect to a copy of goatse |
| 03:44.33 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: Really? I am somehow dubious of that last sentence. |
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| 03:44.42 | Draconicus | bucky: I thought I had. Odd. |
| 03:45.12 | jeff99 | does anyone know about installing windows over a debain installation? |
| 03:45.21 | thomas_adam | jeff99: Eh? |
| 03:45.39 | doug | technos: can i redirect to an image only? |
| 03:45.40 | jim | jeff99: just format your hd and do it |
| 03:45.41 | MinDUrBzns | I have a qs about vmware.. I installed windows xp using vmware, and it seems too perfect to be true,.. my qs : does vmware harm my resources, since running two systems simultaneously ? |
| 03:45.43 | jeff99 | you know how you usually put linux onto a windows box? i wana put windows on a debian box |
| 03:45.53 | challenged | dondelelcaro, etch one to sids i beleive...2.3.2.ds1-22 -> 2.3.5-1 |
| 03:45.56 | jim | jeff99: just format your hd and do it |
| 03:45.58 | thomas_adam | jeff99: So blow the paritions away. |
| 03:46.00 | jeff99 | ok |
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| 03:46.09 | jim | dave... |
| 03:46.10 | Cyano-Mobile | has anyone here been able to install package mplayer-fonts |
| 03:46.13 | mtnman | hi jim |
| 03:46.18 | thomas_adam | MinDUrBzns: No more so than xnest. |
| 03:46.23 | jim | we need to talk :P |
| 03:46.28 | dondelelcaro | challenged: that's fine. |
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| 03:46.33 | mtnman | oh? sounds urgent. |
| 03:46.33 | technos | doug: You can use a http moved to point at somewhere else, yes. |
| 03:46.37 | jim | no |
| 03:46.42 | mtnman | oh, good. |
| 03:46.53 | jim | but evidently you should have my cell... |
| 03:46.58 | doug | technos .. this something you've done before? |
| 03:46.59 | mtnman | i should? |
| 03:47.00 | challenged | dondelelcaro, cheers thx mate |
| 03:47.04 | mtnman | hi don |
| 03:47.04 | MinDUrBzns | what ? |
| 03:47.09 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: sup |
| 03:47.10 | doug | because i gave it a good all nighter and gave up |
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| 03:47.16 | Cyano-Mobile | when installing mplayer it suggests mplayer-fonts but it sayes it's not available. |
| 03:47.17 | doug | last time this happened |
| 03:47.17 | Draconicus | Ah. This is lovely. Apparently something in make went wrong to begin with, and modules_install wasn't working. I had run a string of commands to carry out, rather than waiting for each to finish, and by foolishly doing so, I missed the errors. |
| 03:47.25 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: got my survival guide today. |
| 03:47.30 | jim | well, we fly past each other every time you come into town, or something :) |
| 03:47.31 | technos | doug: Naw, dun ask me. I have done it, but not since the 2.2 kernels were shiny and new. |
| 03:47.34 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: heh. nice. |
| 03:47.43 | doug | ok #apache time |
| 03:47.45 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: It sounds as though you're grappling around in the dark -- is this your first kernel compile? |
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| 03:47.49 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: yeah, it looks like I may not be going... my group is talking about taking the year off |
| 03:47.56 | tcsetattr | Draconius, that's why you use the && operator: command1 && command2 && command3 ... it will stop as soon as one of them fails so you don't miss it |
| 03:47.56 | Draconicus | thomas_adam: Yes. |
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| 03:48.06 | MinDUrBzns | : just format your hd and do it |
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| 03:48.12 | mtnman | jim: true enough. i passed by laney about two weeks ago. |
| 03:48.14 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: Outline what you've done thus far. |
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| 03:48.33 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: well, you're welcome to join our group. |
| 03:48.55 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: thanks... Yeah, I don't know what's totally happening yet |
| 03:48.56 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: did you end up with a ticket or not? |
| 03:49.03 | challenged | Cyano-Mobile, dont worry you can choose one that you already have if needed...it's just fonts |
| 03:49.09 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: I've got a ticket, but I think it's spoken for |
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| 03:50.16 | bucky | Cyano-Mobile, what version of debian are you using.. i've never had a problem with font dependancies |
| 03:50.20 | myren | what is up with people running knoppix... good live cd, but as an installed distro?... why? |
| 03:50.31 | bucky | lazy |
| 03:50.32 | deadcat | myren: dont know |
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| 03:51.04 | gullyfoyle | i installed it onan old steam-powered laptop for a while |
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| 03:51.14 | gullyfoyle | PII 233Mh |
| 03:51.15 | mtnman | dondelelcaro: that's cool. i'm sitting on two, myself, but a few friends are still in need. |
| 03:51.33 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: nice |
| 03:51.42 | subvertir | it just ran hl2?! |
| 03:51.48 | dondelelcaro | mtnman: are you going to be in SF for LWCE again? |
| 03:51.59 | Draconicus | thomas_adam: What I intended to do was make/make install from the kernel source makefile with the appropriate kernel config adjustments (originally done in qconf, and now in the text prompt for a handful of new things), then make modules_install and... erg.. I did something else that had a rather long string of commands after it. I was unaware of the need for making the initrc file. |
| 03:52.13 | Draconicus | Did that cut off? |
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| 03:52.52 | Draconicus | Not commands... actions... with modules or something. |
| 03:52.53 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: Basically, you thought you'd do it the wrong way, and miss out most steps? |
| 03:53.01 | doug | Ok #apache is asleep can someone point me where to redirect hotlinked images to 1x1 gifs 'cause i am getting anally ... Help |
| 03:53.13 | thomas_adam | doug: /msg dpkg they don't know |
| 03:53.18 | doug | i mean what url to read how to do this |
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| 03:53.41 | jim | in aolserver, you can do ns_returnredirect ... |
| 03:53.57 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: Start with: /msg dpkg kp |
| 03:54.19 | doug | i barely have any bandwidth to google this .. |
| 03:54.38 | bucky | doug, how about Blocking hotlinking site-wide |
| 03:54.46 | thomas_adam | Hang on, doug , just let me drop everything for you... |
| 03:54.48 | bucky | http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/06/htaccess-prevent-hotlinking |
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| 03:54.58 | Draconicus | thomas_adam: Look, I was taking quick directions from a friend. Most guides online are for older methods of compiling and aren't very helpful. People ignored me in here. |
| 03:54.59 | doug | bucky ok |
| 03:55.03 | doug | nice thanks |
| 03:55.20 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: No, people don't like repeating themselves for actions that require reading. |
| 03:55.34 | Draconicus | Gyah, why the hell has edit gone from insert to overtype?! I disabled overtype and remapped the key! ARGH. |
| 03:55.45 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: If you don't want to follow the instructions in the 'kp' factoid, that's fine, but that is no different from me sitting here, telling you what to do. |
| 03:55.49 | Draconicus | Er.. mapped the key to a command... and stuff. |
| 03:55.50 | nse | Hello everybody, I miss a feature in Nautilus, where is the option to select some media files and then be able to put them all into an existent Totem playlist, or to start a new Totem with the selected files ? I had experienced this in the KDE Konqueror browser Application and i miss this in Gnome.. |
| 03:56.08 | thomas_adam | nse: So ask #gnome, on irc.gimp.org |
| 03:56.12 | TiMiDo | hey can someone help me out with a webcam? |
| 03:56.16 | challenged | which vncserver do i run if i want it to use my current session? any in particular? |
| 03:56.19 | thomas_adam | TiMiDo: What's your question. |
| 03:56.29 | thomas_adam | challenged: How do you mean, exactly? |
| 03:56.38 | nse | thomas_adam: I'm already doing this too.. |
| 03:56.40 | TiMiDo | i want to get my webcam working on Debian is a Concord eye easy too it doesn't say the model |
| 03:56.58 | thomas_adam | nse: OK, only the #gnome folks will know more about it than #debian -- oddly enough. |
| 03:57.00 | _cat | my mouse is all wet and soon stops working |
| 03:57.12 | thomas_adam | _cat: Stop licking it. |
| 03:57.22 | Draconicus | Oh... it's only happening in X-Chat... |
| 03:57.31 | TiMiDo | any ideas thomas_adam ? |
| 03:57.37 | thomas_adam | TiMiDo: Is it listed under 'gphoto2 --list-cameras' or whatever? |
| 03:57.44 | jim | Draconicus: you can take the desired config file and source then do either: - build normally/generically, or: - build using make-kpkg into a .deb |
| 03:57.51 | challenged | thomas_adam, windows version takes over the current user.....i want the same for my logged in user here....current gnome screen |
| 03:58.13 | thomas_adam | challenged: You just need to configure the ~/.vncserverrc file, IIRC. |
| 03:58.33 | TiMiDo | nope thomas_adam |
| 03:58.51 | challenged | thomas_adam, apparently i have a few options in apt-cache so i figured id ask here hee |
| 03:59.06 | thomas_adam | TiMiDo: When you plug your webcam in, anything in /var/log/messages ? |
| 03:59.17 | thomas_adam | challenged: Ask what? |
| 03:59.40 | TiMiDo | Aug 14 00:03:30 GNU kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 35 |
| 03:59.43 | TiMiDo | Aug 14 00:03:31 GNU kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 36 |
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| 03:59.59 | thomas_adam | TiMiDo: That's a start. Now, what about 'lsusb'? |
| 04:00.02 | challenged | thomas_adam, which was more appropriate for what i needed hehe if its just the config i can do it with any i guess |
| 04:00.04 | TiMiDo | Aug 13 23:58:44 GNU usb.agent[12824]: libgphoto2: loaded successfully |
| 04:00.07 | thomas_adam | TiMiDo: And don't paste the output in here. |
| 04:00.08 | mtnman | jim: or for showering |
| 04:00.13 | TiMiDo | oh ok sorry |
| 04:00.33 | TiMiDo | i don't really get a name with lsusb |
| 04:00.36 | thomas_adam | challenged: Your questions keep changing, so I don't know what you're asking me anymore. |
| 04:02.03 | challenged | thomas_adam, well apt-cache search vncserver list about 5 or so packages...i just needed to know it was a config thing not a packages specific thing ...im cool now thx 8) |
| 04:02.13 | TiMiDo | Saving file as sq_cap.ppm |
| 04:02.17 | TiMiDo | where is it at? |
| 04:02.23 | Draconicus | All I want is a simple command example and synopsis, not an extended explanation of what I ought to do. What is the simplest and most logical way to compile a kernel? Do any of the texts you're throwing at me simply list the most effecient methods and commands and corrosponding parameters instead of going on and on about confusing and needless crap? |
| 04:02.34 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: /msg dpkg kp |
| 04:03.01 | mtnman | draconius: you are asking for a simple answer to a complicated question. |
| 04:03.10 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: Stop being demanding. It's not our fault you're lazy and not prepared to read up a little. |
| 04:03.22 | TiMiDo | thomas_adam: any suggestion? |
| 04:03.31 | bronxcoder | what is the location of the directory of C Header Files that match the running kernel (2.4) I thought it was in /user/src/linux/include... that is were it generally is, but this is the first time that I am using debian and that directory does not even exist |
| 04:03.53 | thomas_adam | TiMiDo: At this hour? Yes, I want to sleep -- install some puthy GUI-front-end for webcams, and have fun. |
| 04:04.01 | TiMiDo | like? |
| 04:04.13 | thomas_adam | TiMiDo: search for one. |
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| 04:04.42 | thomas_adam | bronxcoder: What's the actual question you want answered? |
| 04:04.45 | [sess] | I can't get my wacom graphire usb to work with Debian for the life of me |
| 04:04.50 | challenged | Draconicus, http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html or /msg dpkg make-kpkg for a command example... |
| 04:04.53 | [sess] | well, XFree86 4.3 anyway |
| 04:05.00 | thomas_adam | [sess]: No? What's the problem? |
| 04:05.04 | [sess] | the kernel driver is working, and the test tools detect it |
| 04:05.11 | [sess] | my config in X is also looking pretty good |
| 04:05.15 | [sess] | it just doesn't move the cursor |
| 04:05.22 | stouset | bronxcoder: What do you need the kernel headers for? |
| 04:05.30 | [sess] | I set debuglevel to 10 and it shows that the device is responding |
| 04:05.41 | challenged | Draconicus, when dpkg say or ask me about something thats a trigger too so ask him about it the factoids generally lead onto others if needed |
| 04:05.41 | [sess] | I also set sendcoreevents on each device |
| 04:05.44 | thomas_adam | [sess]: So you must have a bad X config file, then. |
| 04:06.02 | bronxcoder | installing specific vidio drives that need it |
| 04:06.09 | thomas_adam | [sess]: Can you also change your nick to something without punctuation, as it's a PITA to type. |
| 04:06.10 | doug | on apache2 to redirect hotlinked images globally (not just on subdirs or user dirs), am i looking for a .htaccess in the apache2-default document root page or should i edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf? maybe httpd.conf in that dir? |
| 04:06.10 | stouset | bronxcoder: Such as? |
| 04:06.14 | [sess] | I suppose, but again, tailing the xfree86.0.log shows that its moving |
| 04:06.16 | jim | [sess]: what mouse proto? what port? |
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| 04:06.35 | sess2 | jim: usb, /dev/input/event3 |
| 04:06.45 | thomas_adam | doug: Can you not just ask in #apache ? |
| 04:06.49 | stouset | bronxcoder: Which video driver? |
| 04:06.52 | jim | try /dev/input/mice |
| 04:07.02 | jim | why input3? what's that? |
| 04:07.03 | doug | Dude the channel is silent.. i'll try again |
| 04:07.08 | bronxcoder | installed debian on vmware (windows host) vmware is asking for c header files in this specific directory |
| 04:07.17 | bronxcoder | hmmmmm |
| 04:07.25 | stouset | bronxcoder: When you attempt to do what? |
| 04:07.27 | pipeline | bronxcoder: You need to have the appropriate kernel-headers-<version> package installed. |
| 04:07.33 | pipeline | stouset: presumably, build the guest OS drivers. |
| 04:07.34 | thomas_adam | doug: /msg dpkg they don't know (for the second time.) |
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| 04:07.50 | stouset | pipeline: I ask, because I've never used vmware :-) |
| 04:08.00 | challenged | sess2: is the tablet a corepointer? |
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| 04:08.15 | sess2 | doesn't matter. I removed the mouse and set the cursor to corepointer and it still doesn't move |
| 04:08.19 | sess2 | I also tried xsetpointer |
| 04:08.32 | Draconicus | challeneged: Yeah..... And sorry to you and everyone else (particularly thomas_adam). I know I often blame this, but there's truth in saying that sleep deprivation turns my into a whiny little bitch sometimes. Thanks. I'll sort this out, and I'm glad there's a decent answer. |
| 04:08.35 | challenged | bronxcoder, you need to load kernel-headers for it |
| 04:08.41 | sess2 | finally, if I use /dev/input/mice it does show movement, but its erratic like the wrong protocol is used. |
| 04:08.56 | izzo | Need help with Bluez and BT3030 Bluetooth Dongle, I have installed bluez-bcm203x, bluez-firmware, bluez-hcidump, bluez-pin, bluez-utils. The USB device is detected, but the firmware errors out with: bcm203x_probe: Mini driver request failed, bcm203x: probe of 1-2:1.0 failed with error -5. I'm not even sure the BT3030 is a bcm203x chipset, can someone help? |
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| 04:09.02 | sess2 | that last bit is when I set my primary ps2 touchpad to /dev/input/mice instead of /dev/input/mouse0 |
| 04:09.12 | jim | sess2: maybe the wrong protocol is used :) |
| 04:09.13 | challenged | Draconicus, np matey |
| 04:09.21 | thomas_adam | Draconicus: Sleep deprevation or not (a term that *many* don't know the meaning of, and is over used in all the wrong scenarios..), you'll manage it. |
| 04:09.23 | jim | try MouseSystems |
| 04:09.24 | bronxcoder | hmmmm, I've set the compiler up now its asking for theses specific header files... I am assuming that /usr/src/linux/include is the directory that the linux source is stored int (duh) would it just be possible to grabe the source from one of the cds (13 in all)???? |
| 04:09.24 | sess2 | I wish it were that simple, Im using the wacom driver |
| 04:09.43 | sess2 | I specify driver "wacom" after defining the device location |
| 04:09.50 | moe_ | I need some help with debian and ssh, when i ssh into my box, my bash script does not load (no colors all grey test) i have to manyally run 'bash' to get it to load. How do i get it to load by default? thanks |
| 04:09.58 | deadcat | izzo: aint nobody here got bluetooth. |
| 04:10.05 | jim | well let's get your regular mouse going first so at least you can have something |
| 04:10.08 | jetx | kernel-headers == what you need |
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| 04:10.27 | izzo | deadcat maybe you don't, but a lot of people use it on debian |
| 04:10.42 | deadcat | izzo: nobody here. |
| 04:10.47 | thomas_adam | moe_: That makes no sense. what does 'ssh -vvv foo@foo' tell you? |
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| 04:10.50 | sess2 | jim: my regular mouse does work |
| 04:10.54 | nse | I have a sid url in my sources.list and my preferences file is set to give preference to etch packages, but now normal apt-get upgrade is downloading an aMule sid package istead of an etch package: "Get:2 http://ftp.br.debian.org sid/main amule 2.0.3-1 [2709kB]" why this is happening? |
| 04:11.13 | thomas_adam | nse: amule is not in etch. |
| 04:11.14 | sess2 | I've used the tablet before when I sampled gentoo |
| 04:11.34 | izzo | deadcat: nobody here uses the internet |
| 04:11.35 | sess2 | so Im sure it works, Its just not working in XFree86 4.3 |
| 04:11.40 | jim | sess2: ok, look at the config file you got when you did gentoo |
| 04:11.45 | jetx | i need to know what i need to know to get started setting up a usb wireless |
| 04:11.45 | jim | what version? |
| 04:11.46 | deadcat | izzo: else they would be helping your ass |
| 04:11.54 | robl^ | is there an option to apt-get to install a package but NOT run the interactive ncurses configure scrtipt? |
| 04:11.54 | sess2 | jim: I don't have it anymore, I didn't expect it not to work |
| 04:11.55 | deadcat | jetx: chipset |
| 04:11.55 | nse | thomas_adam: Just what i thought, what happened with aMule in etch ? |
| 04:11.59 | izzo | help isnt easy to come by |
| 04:12.04 | thomas_adam | nse: Happened? |
| 04:12.06 | challenged | sess2: yeah it should work...what kernel you on? |
| 04:12.14 | sess2 | Im pretty sure that knoppix 3.7 uses xfree 4.4, and that also worked out of the box |
| 04:12.27 | sess2 | challenged: 2.6.8 customized |
| 04:12.34 | thomas_adam | robl^: apt-get -y install .... |
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| 04:13.05 | challenged | sess2 i know that sometime between 2.6.1 and 2.6.11 there were changes...and 2.6.12 has the new series 3 tables in |
| 04:13.09 | nse | thomas_adam: Yes. bad english ? |
| 04:13.14 | jetx | !find mule etch |
| 04:13.16 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'mule' (11): bitmap-mule ;; mule-ucs ;; xemacs21-gnome-mule ;; xemacs21-gnome-mule-canna-wnn ;; xemacs21-gnome-nomule ;; xemacs21-mule ;; xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn ;; xemacs21-mulesupport ;; xemacs21-mulesupport-el ;; xemacs21-nomule ;; xfonts-bitmap-mule. |
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| 04:13.35 | moe_ | i am using putty to ssh to my linux box when i log on all the text is grey when i do a ls, but when i run 'bash' then 'ls' i get all the right colors, compressed files in red, directories in blue etc |
| 04:13.40 | thomas_adam | jetx: When I said it wasn't in etch... I really did mean it isn't in etch. |
| 04:13.58 | sess2 | challenged: I was using kernel 2.6.11 in gentoo |
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| 04:14.19 | robl^ | thomas_adam, doesn't work. I mean the "blue" configure that runs after installing a package. like apt-get install cvs will ask which directory to create a repository.. |
| 04:14.24 | sess2 | I think the knoppix cd used 2.6.8 or 2.4.something though |
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| 04:14.55 | thomas_adam | robl^: There's probably an apt-preference for it, somewhere. |
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| 04:15.10 | vika_LT | hi all - i'm quite a new debian user and i have problems with my network.. during the installation it could not find a dhcp, so i set up the machine behind a route with local adresses - now i have installed and wnat to see the mac-adress, but cannot: i checked the interface file, thre's noting; then i tried using ifconfig command, but it jsut tells me the command is not found, can anyone help me out here? :) |
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| 04:15.50 | technos | vika_LT: You're probably going to have to su root to use ifconfig. It's not in the standard user's path. |
| 04:16.02 | nse | thomas_adam: sorry, I'm confused |
| 04:16.15 | robl^ | thomas_adam, hrmm.. I am trying to run it as part of a long script that should run without interaction |
| 04:16.20 | thomas_adam | nse: No: /sbin/ifconfig works fine for querying output. |
| 04:16.33 | thomas_adam | robl^: So get it to spawn a login shell. |
| 04:16.55 | vika_LT | ah, had to change to root - thanks a bunch :) |
| 04:17.46 | _root_ | Hi all :) |
| 04:19.30 | challenged | sess2: are you sarge or etch? etch has a 2.6.11 version you could try |
| 04:19.52 | challenged | sess2 |
| 04:20.26 | challenged | sess2: wacom tablet works in knoppix livecd |
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| 04:20.40 | jair | hello guys |
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| 04:21.23 | Cyano-Mobile | how can I make /dev/dvd readable by all users |
| 04:21.33 | deadcat | Cyano-Mobile: chmod |
| 04:21.36 | sess2 | Im using sarge |
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| 04:22.33 | jair | I was having problems to turn off my computer (sarge running kernel 2.6.8-2 686) and then I install a image kernel from the testing distribution and solve the problem ...:) |
| 04:22.40 | sess2 | challenged: yes, tablet works with knoppix livecd and works with individual driver settings when XF86Config-4 is modified slightly |
| 04:22.51 | jair | the kernel I installed was the 2.6.11 |
| 04:22.58 | jordo23 | can someone tell me what my sources.list file should be currently using sarge? |
| 04:23.00 | jair | asg, hello? |
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| 04:23.26 | jim | jordo23: rephrase your question |
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| 04:23.55 | jordo23 | Jim: I keep getting apt errors when trying to update packages, and I think I need to change my sources.list file since the release. |
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| 04:24.55 | sess2 | I tried a knoppix hd install and got it working pretty well |
| 04:25.01 | technos | me is officially ashamed; Alice Cooper came up on the playlist and I turned it up and shushed my coworkers. |
| 04:25.05 | jim | jordo23: grep "^\ *deb\ " /etc/apt/sources.list | head -1 |
| 04:25.08 | sess2 | there was no dri support for my card once I did that though |
| 04:25.10 | K_Dallas | jordo23, install apt-spy and run it |
| 04:25.12 | jim | should give you one line |
| 04:25.14 | sess2 | also who wants a knoppix hd install |
| 04:25.15 | challenged | sess2: can you see how knoppix live cd handles it at all? |
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| 04:25.26 | jordo23 | K_Dallas: What is apt-spy? |
| 04:25.29 | sess2 | knoppix livecd just uses /dev/input/mice |
| 04:25.31 | K_Dallas | jordo23, make sure you back up your sources.list first |
| 04:25.43 | K_Dallas | it gives you the fastest mirror close to you |
| 04:25.48 | sess2 | I added the lines I use in my xfree86config and it worked |
| 04:26.20 | challenged | sess2 the device configs for it are the same tho? |
| 04:26.27 | sess2 | pretty much |
| 04:26.37 | sess2 | it just has a bunch of arbitrary definitions for different hardware |
| 04:26.59 | sess2 | and it autodects which are useful at boot time and doesn't place the useless hardware in the session |
| 04:27.05 | izzo | Where can I get Lcurses? |
| 04:27.09 | sess2 | err serverlayout |
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| 04:27.49 | gentleman | is there a good program like Everest Home edition for Linux? |
| 04:28.22 | jair | guys I was trying to create a usb key drive to boot a sarge distibution on a server that do not have a CD-rom, but I am getting a couple of errors |
| 04:28.29 | jordo23 | K_Dallas: I ran apt-spy update but I still get an error when I install any package.... |
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| 04:28.45 | technos | izzo: you mean curses, the terminal library? apt-get install libncurses5 or something |
| 04:28.53 | challenged | gentleman, whats everest do? |
| 04:29.07 | jair | this are the three packages I have on the usb key drive. debian-31r0a-i386-businesscard.iso initrd.gz ldlinux.sys syslinux.cfg vmlinuz |
| 04:29.31 | trave11er | jair: are you following the installation manual? |
| 04:29.34 | izzo | technos no i have that, its something called '-lcurses' i need it to ./configure a script |
| 04:29.38 | jair | but when it boots everything start perfect but then I get an error of "panic error on kernel" |
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| 04:29.53 | gentleman | Everest is a hardware analysis type tool. It tells you all kinds of stuff about your system and it's pretty cool. See www.lavalys.com |
| 04:29.56 | edugcj | hello |
| 04:30.06 | jair | trave11er, yes but now that you ask I could not find the package syslinux.cfg |
| 04:30.11 | K_Dallas | jordo23, maybe some line of your error message would help |
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| 04:30.33 | K_Dallas | gentleman, when in linux do as linuxian do! |
| 04:30.35 | technos | izzo: -lcurses is libcurses. apt-get install libncurses |
| 04:30.43 | izzo | technos alrighty |
| 04:30.49 | jair | trave11er, I am following this tutorial http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 04:30.50 | technos | izzo: Err, libncurses5. |
| 04:30.59 | edugcj | please, what is the difference between businesscard and netinst cd images? |
| 04:30.59 | izzo | technos oh but i have that already :( |
| 04:31.30 | jair | edugcj, that the netinst is 110mb and the businesscard is 50MB |
| 04:31.39 | jair | eddul_, I mean that is one |
| 04:31.47 | trave11er | jair: well, why don't you follow the official sarge installation manual? |
| 04:31.48 | jair | of the differeneces |
| 04:31.57 | trave11er | jair: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en |
| 04:31.58 | technos | izzo: Look at ldconfig -v | less, make sure it's listed. |
| 04:32.01 | challenged | sess2: have a look at http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:Q6LBJHSvqFgJ:linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/debwcmdrv+wacom+usb+debian+sarge&hl=en and see if you can see anything you may have missed |
| 04:32.19 | jair | trave11er, ok look I could not find the package syslinux.cfg |
| 04:32.22 | izzo | technos: i get the following errors trying to ./configure: checking for main in -lcurses... no , configure: error: Curses not found |
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| 04:32.34 | edugcj | jair but what is the difference between then? what one have and what the other one have? |
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| 04:32.46 | migma | anyone who has lm-sensors enabled? |
| 04:32.50 | technos | izzo: You're missing the damn curses library is all that says. |
| 04:33.15 | izzo | technos but i have the package installed libncurses5 and perl-curses |
| 04:33.23 | trave11er | jair: read this chapter. you don't need any syslinux.cfg. you need to download one file and dump it to the stick |
| 04:33.33 | izzo | technos i dont think its appearing under ldconfig though |
| 04:33.37 | jair | edugcj, I know that the netinst have the base installation packages, like the drivers for the networkcards, cd drives, etc. |
| 04:33.51 | Morpheus8 | migma, I enabled lm-sensors, but it reports incorrect CPU temp for me :( |
| 04:33.51 | jair | trave11er, ok |
| 04:34.09 | edugcj | jair kernel version? |
| 04:34.23 | edugcj | jair do you know if it supports SATA ? |
| 04:34.37 | izzo | technos it's listed: ldconfig -v | less |
| 04:34.44 | jair | edugcj, right it comes with the options of install kernel 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 04:34.45 | izzo | technos libncurses.so.5 -> libncurses.so.5.4 |
| 04:34.57 | jair | edugcj, I think it does |
| 04:35.10 | edugcj | jair ok, thank u a lot, i am downloading it :) |
| 04:35.23 | jair | edugcj, I will recommend you the netinst |
| 04:35.42 | migma | Morpheus8, I installed it yet somehow gkrellm still displays "no sensors found" |
| 04:35.45 | jair | edugcj, are you downloading the latest one ? because sarge is not anymore testing |
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| 04:35.57 | jair | edugcj, it is one that sarge comes as a stable. |
| 04:35.59 | edugcj | jair im downloading netinst. |
| 04:36.03 | edugcj | jair yes, sarge! |
| 04:36.21 | Morpheus8 | migma, what does "sensors" say? |
| 04:36.23 | technos | izzo: Then it should work fine. Is the configure script broken? What are you trying to compile? |
| 04:36.43 | izzo | technos im trying to compile btscanner-1.0 |
| 04:36.48 | edugcj | jair do you know if i have to do any especial option to install SATA ? |
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| 04:37.02 | migma | Morpheus8, fields are disabled |
| 04:37.19 | izzo | technos why does it say "checking for main in -lcurses", whats the main part mean? |
| 04:37.45 | technos | izzo: My guess is the configure script for it is just plain broken. That just means it' looking for the starting function (main) in libcurses. |
| 04:38.09 | fooz | that's not broken. that's testing for a broken system. |
| 04:38.32 | izzo | technos ok thanks anyways |
| 04:39.15 | edugcj | jair are you there? |
| 04:39.22 | trave11er | izzo: you most likely need to install something like libncurse5-dev |
| 04:39.31 | trave11er | err, libncurses5-dev |
| 04:39.32 | jair | edugcj, I don't think so, http://www.nl.debian.org/CD/netinst/ this is the version you have to get |
| 04:39.48 | izzo | traveller ok i didnt think of that |
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| 04:39.53 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 04:39.55 | jair | and the kernel when you are ready to install will be the 2.6 |
| 04:40.07 | tengulre | how to login in debian with serial port? |
| 04:40.17 | jair | you have to use the boot option "linux26" |
| 04:40.47 | sess2 | challenged: I didn't define the pad option, but I don't remember doing it before |
| 04:40.50 | edugcj | jair ok! |
| 04:40.53 | sess2 | I have the graphire 1, do I need it? |
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| 04:41.20 | edugcj | jair sorry but where are you from? |
| 04:41.21 | sess2 | the only thing Im missing from those configs is the threshold value (supposed to be for pressure sensitivity) and Im using 2.6.8 kernel not 2.8.11 |
| 04:41.23 | trave11er | tengulre: to a running system? or you want to install using serial console? |
| 04:41.58 | cyxakep | anybody speaks russian? |
| 04:42.38 | cyxakep | b cause my english is poor |
| 04:42.42 | cyxakep | ) |
| 04:42.46 | izzo | traveller you were right about the dev lib for curses, but now its giving me the same error but asking for -lbluetooth, have any idea what dev lib its talking about? |
| 04:43.08 | jordo23 | can someone look at my sources.list file and tell me whats wrong with it? |
| 04:43.24 | trave11er | izzo: apt-cache search bluetooth | grep '-dev' ? |
| 04:43.29 | tengulre | trave11er, for monitor linux system? |
| 04:43.33 | fooz | izzo, /msg dpkg find libbluetooth.so |
| 04:43.35 | zu22 | cxxakep: privetik comrade! |
| 04:43.48 | cyxakep | zu22 zdorov |
| 04:43.54 | trave11er | tengulre: i don't follow |
| 04:44.08 | izzo | thx |
| 04:44.11 | sess2 | also, when I do an apt-cache search kernel, no 2,6.11 options come up |
| 04:44.13 | trave11er | tengulre: you just need to login into a running system over serial line? |
| 04:44.23 | tengulre | trave11er,yes |
| 04:44.35 | challenged | sess2: well according to everything youve said and ive seen on pages ive skimmed it looks like nothing majorly wrong...2.6.11 was used in both debain examples ive seen but thats all i can find |
| 04:44.37 | sess2 | I know better than to try to compile the kernel from ftp.kernel.org without the debian patches, so how can I get 2.6.11 on my system? |
| 04:44.59 | cyxakep | zu22 skazji gde mozjno vzayt live distrib debian for boot from usb flash& |
| 04:45.00 | sess2 | they say use apt, but my apt shows no signs of 2.6.11 |
| 04:45.04 | fooz | sess2, there's nothing wrong with the stock kernel (if you know how to build it) |
| 04:45.04 | tcsetattr | vanilla kernels work fine on debian, don't be afraid :) |
| 04:45.06 | izzo | fooz that lib worked, what lib would -lsdp be referring to aswell? |
| 04:45.23 | fooz | izzo, -l means lib. libsdp |
| 04:45.26 | sess2 | I've got no big issues with that, I do like to have my kernel customized |
| 04:45.27 | tengulre | trave11er,how to do? |
| 04:45.29 | izzo | fooz ok |
| 04:45.34 | trave11er | tengulre: in such case you need a) a null-modem cable b) to edit /etc/inittab, uncommenting the lines invoking mgetty on a serial port and running telinit q after that and c) some terminal emulator program like cu or minicom to connect from the other side |
| 04:45.41 | trave11er | tengulre: and lots of luck |
| 04:45.43 | trave11er | :-) |
| 04:45.51 | fooz | sess2, k then, go at it. just remember that kernel-modules-source packages won't work for you |
| 04:46.25 | sess2 | fooz: Im using sarge iso net installed |
| 04:46.27 | fooz | sess2, that's no big deal unless you have to use debianised kernel modules |
| 04:46.29 | tengulre | trave11er,thank u, I try it now! |
| 04:46.33 | challenged | sess2 apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6.11 ....if its not there then your sources may be set to somewhere other than etch/sid....sarge only has 2.6.8 as its highest.... |
| 04:46.33 | sess2 | and I can't dl even a vanilla 2.6.11 kernel |
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| 04:46.55 | sess2 | crep |
| 04:47.06 | sess2 | ok, Im going to bed, Im pretty tired |
| 04:47.23 | challenged | sess2 im heading out for the day i hope you find out the problem....if you do perhaps making a howto/factoid of clues would assist others |
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| 04:47.26 | sess2 | thanks for all the help chalenged, fooz, and jim |
| 04:47.31 | fooz | sess2, np |
| 04:47.51 | sess2 | Ill try upping to 2.6.11 tomorrow at work |
| 04:47.55 | izzo | fooz: i installed libsdp2, and libsdp2-dev and it's not takin it for -lspd, do u think i need to get libsdp1? |
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| 04:48.23 | kingfish600 | Hello All! I need a little help. I installed debian with debianpure and used the linux26 option and it now boots to kde. I used apt-get to install synaptic (from the offical dvd's still havn't got the wireless working yet) however synaptic does nothing when I click on it from kde and crashs when I run it in terminal. Also some packages that I installed with apt-get never appear anywhere... |
| 04:48.25 | kingfish600 | ...in kde. Sorry guys i'm a little new at linux any help would be appreciated. |
| 04:48.40 | fooz | izzo, probably. did you search for libsdp.so or just libsdp? |
| 04:48.47 | jim | sess2: hope things work out |
| 04:48.54 | fooz | izzo, the -l<blah> searches for lib<blah>.so |
| 04:49.04 | fooz | izzo, or lib<blah>.a |
| 04:49.14 | bucky | kingfish600, debianpure? is this debian amd64 ? |
| 04:49.27 | kingfish600 | debian x86 |
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| 04:49.31 | izzo | fooz ok |
| 04:49.41 | kingfish600 | running on a semprion |
| 04:49.58 | bucky | hmm... |
| 04:50.01 | trave11er | izzo: yeah, and once you know what file you need, you can use packages.debian.org to figure out the package to which it belongs |
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| 04:50.52 | trave11er | and usually the corresponding -dev package too |
| 04:51.10 | izzo | crap its not taking SDP :( |
| 04:51.27 | izzo | checking for main in -lsdp... no - configure: error: SDP not found |
| 04:52.04 | fooz | izzo, then debian doesn't have the lib that your app is looking for |
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| 04:52.06 | trave11er | izzo: did you install libsdp2-dev? |
| 04:52.14 | jair | edugcj, brazil you? |
| 04:52.18 | izzo | yes both libsdp2 and libsdp2-dev |
| 04:52.27 | edugcj | jair brasil tbm, ja estava desconfiado |
| 04:52.30 | edugcj | eheheh |
| 04:52.39 | izzo | fooz how can i find out what file it is, looking at the code maybe? |
| 04:52.48 | jair | edugcj, tbm? |
| 04:52.48 | trave11er | izzo: what is it you are trying to build? |
| 04:52.57 | izzo | traveller: btscanner-1.0 |
| 04:53.06 | edugcj | jair :D |
| 04:53.11 | edugcj | jair coincidencia |
| 04:53.23 | jair | edugcj, bose so brasileiro? |
| 04:53.54 | jair | edugcj, hahaa |
| 04:53.58 | edugcj | jair bose? |
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| 04:54.32 | jair | I do not know to much about my language portugesse I i have long time in Venezuela and USA |
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| 04:54.45 | jair | edugcj, not to much time on brasil |
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| 04:55.06 | edugcj | jair brazilian but dont live here? never lived? |
| 04:55.17 | jair | edugcj, my fader fernandao is from brazil and my mother is Venezuelan |
| 04:55.26 | jair | edugcj, nope |
| 04:55.28 | edugcj | jair fernandao uaehueha |
| 04:55.31 | jair | edugcj, :( |
| 04:55.43 | edugcj | jair ? |
| 04:55.51 | jair | edugcj, yes? |
| 04:55.56 | edugcj | jair are you born in brasil? |
| 04:56.06 | jair | yes |
| 04:56.25 | jair | but live in Venezuela, Puerto rico and USA |
| 04:56.35 | jair | edugcj, what about you? |
| 04:56.52 | edugcj | jair uhm... i am brazilian and i live in brazil :) |
| 04:56.59 | jair | I know you are in brazil right now ;) |
| 04:57.06 | edugcj | .br :P |
| 04:57.21 | jair | edugcj, what place in br? |
| 04:57.37 | edugcj | jair Santo Andre, near São Paulo |
| 04:58.18 | edugcj | jair and your father? |
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| 04:59.06 | trave11er | wtf |
| 04:59.18 | trave11er | libsdp2 package contains nothing but documentation |
| 04:59.41 | izzo | traveller maybe i need to get it somewhere other than apt then? |
| 05:00.02 | trave11er | ok, libsdp2 are just dummy packages |
| 05:00.03 | jim | how do you make mini.iso? |
| 05:00.32 | trave11er | jim: from the debian-installer source package |
| 05:00.34 | izzo | travelller yeah whats that mean |
| 05:00.46 | jim | what's the target name? |
| 05:00.58 | jim | monolithic? |
| 05:01.06 | jair | edugcj, fortaleza |
| 05:01.12 | trave11er | izzo: i don't know, news file says that it has been absorbed into libbluetooth1 |
| 05:01.28 | trave11er | izzo: but it provides only libbluetooth1.so library |
| 05:01.33 | trave11er | izzo: so i have no idea |
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| 05:01.49 | trave11er | jim: yes, something like build_monolithic_2.6 |
| 05:02.00 | trave11er | jim: that's what i used to build mine |
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| 05:02.22 | trave11er | jim: except that i've built it from the sarge svn branch, not debian-installer which is in the archive |
| 05:02.36 | trave11er | jim: did it work, btw? |
| 05:02.55 | jair | edugcj, have you ever use debian? or this is the first time you will install it? |
| 05:03.24 | cthulfuego | wow |
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| 05:03.54 | RuKK | hey guys and girls, if my home key under debian made a ~ instead of going to the beginning of the line, any ideas how I would go about changing that? |
| 05:03.54 | jim | trave11er: well dunno... we just have to wait until someone comes with a sata setup |
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| 05:04.11 | edugcj | jair yes i use it :) |
| 05:05.07 | jair | edugcj, what flavor? |
| 05:05.18 | jim | milk chocolate |
| 05:05.23 | jair | edugcj, are you a student? it worker or what? |
| 05:05.26 | deadcat | is it a good idea to alias ssh='ssh -A -X' ? |
| 05:05.27 | jair | edugcj, :) |
| 05:05.47 | edugcj | jair brb, tel! |
| 05:06.02 | jordo23 | Where are icons for kde stored in Debian? |
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| 05:06.42 | dondelelcaro | RuKK: fix your termcap, basically. |
| 05:06.47 | kingfish600 | RuKK i'm pretty new at this but maby you should check the keyboard type you selected I think the normal keyboard in the us i 104 |
| 05:07.01 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: I'd actually use an sshx or something to do that, since sometimes you don't want -X |
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| 05:07.19 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ok |
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| 05:07.26 | dondelelcaro | (and often you don't want -A) |
| 05:07.33 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:07.34 | jair | trave11er, Copying the files ? the flexible way this is the option I was trying and I could not find the syslinux.cfg |
| 05:07.42 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: if you know you want it for specific hosts, just set them in your .ssh/config |
| 05:07.48 | jordo23 | Does anyone know where the icon files are stored in KDE? |
| 05:07.51 | jordo23 | In Debian |
| 05:08.00 | slackd00d | /usr/share/icons isnt it |
| 05:08.21 | jair | trave11er, I know that the first ofption is very easy but the second one allow me have more control and know what i am doing. |
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| 05:08.49 | jair | edugcj, ok |
| 05:09.16 | edugcj | jair sorry, i was on the phone, i am studing to be a lawyer |
| 05:09.28 | jim | trave11er, how would you go about having it install 2.6.11? |
| 05:09.47 | jim | it's not who you know, it's who you stud? |
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| 05:09.55 | slackd00d | i want to be a porn star...but i need a penis extension surgery...the 2.5 inches im packing now isnt going to cut it |
| 05:09.58 | rabies | hello |
| 05:10.05 | edugcj | jair but i work in my father's accounting office, with accounting and with the network :D |
| 05:10.06 | trave11er | jim: you haven't read the READ.1st file, have you? ;-) |
| 05:10.08 | rabies | hrm, i join and see this... |
| 05:10.11 | slackd00d | opps wrong channel |
| 05:10.15 | rabies | i feel wronged somehow |
| 05:10.36 | jim | trave11er: yes... I'm asking how that would be automated |
| 05:10.42 | rabies | slackd00d: ah, you want ##slackware ;) |
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| 05:11.02 | trave11er | jim: oh, hopefully sooner or later d-i team will make the official images with 2.6.11 kernel |
| 05:11.07 | jim | rabies: we're trying to cure you! :) |
| 05:11.15 | rabies | jim: try harder |
| 05:11.19 | paines | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.19 | slackd00d | yes, heh' |
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| 05:11.30 | umm | Is slackware dead? |
| 05:11.36 | trave11er | jim: it should be possible to stick the kernel debs into mini iso even, but that's too much mucking around |
| 05:11.36 | rabies | umm: yes |
| 05:11.45 | umm | no new release... |
| 05:11.46 | furrywolf | who keeps giving Draconicus bad advice on kernel installs? :P |
| 05:11.50 | technos | umm: As dead as BSD, at least according to /. |
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| 05:12.01 | umm | oh my! |
| 05:12.07 | izzo | how do i copy files to a locatoin? |
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| 05:12.09 | jim | he wanted to do it that way |
| 05:12.20 | jim | izzo: cp |
| 05:12.23 | izzo | ok |
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| 05:12.37 | Draconicus | furrywolf: the british guy did it! |
| 05:12.47 | Draconicus | Lessee... |
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| 05:13.01 | Mardus | Heyo. |
| 05:13.02 | Draconicus | bucky gave advice, challenged, um... |
| 05:13.06 | jair | edugcj, cool |
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| 05:13.20 | Draconicus | thomas_adam, too. |
| 05:13.33 | bucky | furrywolf, what bad advice |
| 05:13.35 | jair | edugcj, I work a lot with debian I am trying to learn a lot about it |
| 05:13.36 | jim | Draconicus: I think he's curious as to why not use make-kpkg |
| 05:13.51 | djblazen | hello all, would anyone know how to fix an ext2 superblock corruption problem from a basic rescue shell? |
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| 05:14.02 | umm | gcj + classpath ^_^ |
| 05:14.08 | furrywolf | bucky: dunno, but people must be giving him bad advice, as it's two days and he still doesn't have a new kernel. :) |
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| 05:14.38 | umm | ? |
| 05:14.50 | umm | new kernel? |
| 05:14.55 | edugcj | jair we have debian in the 3 servers, the vpn one, the samba and the firewall |
| 05:15.05 | edugcj | jair i did it :D |
| 05:15.08 | bucky | this has always been my advice http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html#s-kernel-debian |
| 05:15.13 | jim | djblazen: find backup of superblock (there must be at least one...) and dd it to the usual superblock position... or... maybe there's a fsck way to do it |
| 05:15.28 | sDES | clear |
| 05:15.38 | sDES | ? |
| 05:15.42 | jim | as mud? |
| 05:15.52 | sDES | jim: oops |
| 05:15.59 | sDES | :) |
| 05:16.01 | djblazen | jim: my problem is that the rescue shell is running on a version 2.2.20 kernel and the system that has all the usuable utilities |
| 05:16.08 | Mardus | Guestion: I have woody and woody variant of AbiWord (fetched from apt-get). Now, this AbiWord is very unstable. If I edit the sources list to accept stable and download a newer version of AbiWord (that was released when sarge came out), would it then mean that woody would have to be upgraded to sarge? |
| 05:16.09 | djblazen | runes on a 2.6.8 kernel |
| 05:16.13 | Mardus | *Question |
| 05:16.14 | umm | the whole hdd scan? |
| 05:16.31 | jim | djblazen: you probably need newer rescue media |
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| 05:17.09 | djblazen | jim: i suppose i should get the latest debain release then, because i'm doing a rescue from a woody installion disk |
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| 05:18.11 | jim | because, the 2.6.8 probably has much more recent ext2 drivers and the e2fs tools are more uptodate on sarge too |
| 05:18.13 | djblazen | jim: here is the problem, i can mount it from the rescue disk but when i boot the system normally it doesn't boot |
| 05:18.22 | vika_LT | hi again, stil newbie here ;) - i need some help installing libncurses so i can get psybnc, but i seem to hve trouble installing, i just ca't find it :( - would anyone be interested telling me what commando to launch, or where i can read more aboutit? |
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| 05:18.38 | jim | it seems like you need to repair it |
| 05:18.55 | ethics | mardus: if you do upgrade have a look at what else it needs then see whats important 8)...dist-upgrade would be bad but just 1 package may be ok..i |
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| 05:19.16 | ethics | mardus apt should advise you of dependencies issues |
| 05:19.28 | bhuvan | any one know any thing of wine |
| 05:19.32 | trave11er | vika_LT: try libncurses4 and/or libncurses5-dev |
| 05:19.40 | trave11er | err, libncurses5 |
| 05:19.42 | bhuvan | i have testing version of debian etch |
| 05:19.42 | jim | djblazen: another possibility... back up partition using rescue media, reformat partition, restore |
| 05:19.55 | jim | you'd need space for that option tho |
| 05:19.56 | Mardus | ethics: I'd like to just get the newer AbiWord and keep woody and the rest. |
| 05:20.19 | djblazen | jim: well I know I have enough space, its just going to take some juggling to get it to work |
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| 05:20.45 | jim | djblazen: you can store a tarball maybe |
| 05:21.02 | vinux | Well I got debian playing my dvds and streaming video so I'm happy :) |
| 05:21.04 | jim | or a compressed tarball |
| 05:21.12 | ethics | mardus yeah you need to see whats going to want to change with it....swap sources update apt-get upgrade abiword...take note of files and ask someone here via paster /#flood |
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| 05:21.47 | djblazen | jim: the system i'm rescueing is a linuxfromscratch system |
| 05:21.57 | djblazen | jim: i thought i did a proper shutdown but I guess I didn't |
| 05:22.03 | djblazen | I really do hate the ext2 filesystem |
| 05:22.16 | jim | maybe if you do that you won't have to juggle |
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| 05:22.33 | jim | anyways... gotta go... luck... |
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| 05:23.06 | djblazen | jim: thanks, take care |
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| 05:26.26 | vika_LT | trave11er thanks - it says the ncurses is already installed with latest version |
| 05:26.39 | vika_LT | now i need to install psybnc, does anyone know the name of the package? |
| 05:27.32 | furrywolf | vika_LT: packages.debian.org |
| 05:27.34 | furrywolf | bbl, sleep |
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| 05:27.40 | tzafrir_laptop | vika_LT, http://packages.debian.org can tell you |
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| 05:28.11 | hris | hi, which is the best media palyer in linux for playing cd,dvd, mp3 and fm radio |
| 05:28.24 | hris | sorry player |
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| 05:28.35 | vinux | hris, I like mplayer |
| 05:28.51 | hris | yes but there's no package for it in debian |
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| 05:28.53 | vinux | hris, totem is good |
| 05:29.15 | vinux | hris, well not a pkg in the main. you need to add more sources |
| 05:29.56 | budluva1 | hris, xine is another one |
| 05:30.07 | hris | how do u find the other sources and find it's package list |
| 05:30.10 | nse | I'm running electricsheep 2.6 and it's displaying this msg when running: "cannot find xv port" i've tried to reconfigure it with dpkg without results, is there anything i can do to go round this problem? |
| 05:30.23 | vinux | hris, let me see one second let me get you one |
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| 05:31.52 | Kupal[]_ | is there a fs that does replication over the network, i have been searching in userland, but just realize i could always make a partition if a f.s. exist that does this... |
| 05:31.56 | vika_LT | hmm... i don't seem to find psybnc anywhere :/ |
| 05:31.58 | Mardus | ethics, et al.: I looked at it with Synaptic and once I selected to upgrade AbiWord, a whole lot of dependencies occurred, some of which would conflict with some software currently installed. |
| 05:32.49 | hris | vinux; got it |
| 05:32.56 | vinux | hris, awsome |
| 05:32.59 | hris | http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge/ |
| 05:33.08 | vinux | hris, sweetness |
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| 05:34.12 | FauxFaux | Will debian run on my pants? |
| 05:34.20 | trave11er | vika_LT: is it an ircd server? |
| 05:34.35 | vika_LT | yep |
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| 05:34.53 | trave11er | vika_LT: there are probably other servers packaged |
| 05:35.27 | djblazen | is there anyway to load a new kernel w/o rebooting? |
| 05:35.37 | necro_ | hey, stupid kerberos question for you people. i've configured krb5 and ldap.. ldap authentication + user information is fine.. but id like to use kerberos for user authentication.. and ldap for the rest of the user's info |
| 05:35.48 | hris | vinux:how do i add that link to that source, it's malinformed |
| 05:35.57 | necro_ | do i modify nsswitch.conf in any way to reflect kerberos authentication, or is that strictly a PAM thing? |
| 05:35.59 | hris | while adding to apt-get update |
| 05:36.08 | necro_ | right now i only have files and ldap, in nsswitch.conf ... |
| 05:36.35 | umm | ldap lol ($$$) |
| 05:36.49 | necro_ | any more replies, or is that it? |
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| 05:37.26 | djblazen | is it possible load a kernel ontop a preloaded one? |
| 05:37.38 | vinux | hris, one second |
| 05:37.48 | hris | ok |
| 05:38.03 | Sunblade | djblazen: Yes. Look into UML. |
| 05:38.18 | vinux | hris, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:38.24 | Sunblade | djblazen: Loading a new kernel without rebooting is also possible. |
| 05:38.28 | vinux | hris, you can use gedit |
| 05:38.42 | djblazen | Sunblade: can you point me in a direction where I can read about it? |
| 05:38.46 | hris | yes but when i add it as deb url, it says malformed line |
| 05:38.58 | hris | i don't have gui, i am working on command line actually |
| 05:39.13 | necro_ | wonderful, thanks for the awesome null input. my walls completely agreed with you. |
| 05:39.14 | necro_ | later |
| 05:39.19 | vinux | hris, hmmm use mc then. #apt-get install mc |
| 05:39.29 | Sunblade | djblazen: Google is your friend. |
| 05:39.30 | hris | what is mc |
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| 05:39.41 | Sunblade | djblazen: Look for user mode linux |
| 05:39.59 | djblazen | Sunblade: yeah it is, ahh exellent a definition for UML cool cool, thanks |
| 05:40.09 | vinux | hris, midnight commader ---> sort of like a file manager for terminal |
| 05:40.17 | hris | ok |
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| 05:41.38 | vinux | hris, to start it just type mc . make sure you write down the sources to type in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:42.39 | hris | vinux, try now with lynx, installing mc |
| 05:42.42 | djblazen | Alrighty, all thanks for the help and you all take care..goodnight |
| 05:42.44 | hris | trying |
| 05:42.55 | jair | guys it is a apt-get command that check for a paackage if is a version newer than the currently installed? |
| 05:43.03 | vinux | hris, I just got through compiling mplayer on debian hehe. mmm don't do it unless you have to lol |
| 05:43.21 | budluva1 | jair, you mean apt-get update? |
| 05:43.43 | hris | let me check that |
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| 05:43.51 | MobyTurbo | vinux: why didn't you use the marillat repository? |
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| 05:44.17 | jm_ | jair: apt-cache policy |
| 05:44.56 | vinux | MobyTurbo, I did but it didn't have the plugin and well I always compile mplayer-plugin becaue it works better and I get the latest verison. So I just thought I would compile mplayer too hehe |
| 05:44.56 | jair | budluva1, hmm not for example if I was running the mozilla-firefox 1.0.3 I know that the latest version is 1.0.4 but If I was not aware of that I can run a command apt-get to check if the version 1.0.4 get printed or tells me infrom me about that? |
| 05:45.01 | QUACH-214 | hi, im new at debian. my harddisk has now 2 partition hda1 and hdb1. how can i resize my partition without losing data in hda1? |
| 05:45.16 | QUACH-214 | i mean i want hda1 use all space of my hard disk |
| 05:45.20 | MobyTurbo | vinux: it's got the plug-in |
| 05:45.25 | streuner | Quag7: backup data first? |
| 05:45.36 | streuner | QUACH-214: backup data first? |
| 05:45.47 | QUACH-214 | streuer backup data in both partition? |
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| 05:46.03 | QUACH-214 | is there any another solution? |
| 05:46.15 | vinux | MobyTurbo, well one reason I compile the mplayer stuff most of the time is because the pkg doesn't work for me most of the time on other linux distros |
| 05:46.27 | budluva1 | jair, i know what you are saying but don't know how to view version numbers with apt |
| 05:46.32 | QUACH-214 | i have heard about nParted which can resize partition as powest partition magic ? |
| 05:46.36 | jair | jm_, thanks but what this command will do? |
| 05:46.48 | vinux | MobyTurbo, the plugin didn't work on the pkg I apt-geted |
| 05:46.50 | budluva1 | jair, check jm_'s suggestion |
| 05:46.56 | jair | budluva1, ok no problem |
| 05:46.58 | sDES | QUACH-214: I have used qparted succesfully to resz ntfs, nut BACKUP fisrt |
| 05:47.00 | jair | yes |
| 05:47.22 | QUACH-214 | sDES qparted or nparted ? |
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| 05:47.50 | sDES | QUACH-214: It's the same, both are front-ends for parted |
| 05:47.56 | QUACH-214 | sDES problem is that that is dedicated server which i order from a hosting company ... i just only connect and control my server via SSH :)) |
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| 05:48.13 | vinux | MobyTurbo, maybe I could have gotten another source. But like I said even on ubuntu or mandrake or suse the pkgs dont' work for me for somereason |
| 05:48.36 | QUACH-214 | sDES can i fristly del partition hdb1 ? and then resizre hda1 to use all the rest free space hard disk? |
| 05:48.42 | sDES | QUACH-214: parted is command line only I think, but you bette rhave physical access.You will need to reboot first |
| 05:48.51 | jm_ | jair: read the man page |
| 05:49.01 | sDES | QUACH-214: what fs do you have on hda1? |
| 05:49.09 | QUACH-214 | sDES can i use command REBOOT at command line to reboot ? |
| 05:49.20 | pilgrim | Do I _need_ to compile a custom kernel in debian, or is there a default one I can use? |
| 05:49.26 | sDES | QUACH-214: reboot, yes... |
| 05:49.29 | QUACH-214 | althought i still have ability to ask hosting company do it by email |
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| 05:49.47 | valdyn | pilgrim: there's many precompiled kernels you can use. |
| 05:49.49 | jair | jm_, ok |
| 05:49.50 | vinux | MobyTurbo, all the other pkgs work though but not the mplayer one :( |
| 05:49.52 | QUACH-214 | sDES i use fdisk -l but cant see any info |
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| 05:50.02 | QUACH-214 | sDES can you tell me how to check fs ? |
| 05:50.04 | sDES | QUACH-214: type mount |
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| 05:50.07 | QUACH-214 | maybe ext3 |
| 05:50.10 | QUACH-214 | ok |
| 05:50.14 | pilgrim | valdyn, thanks for response :) |
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| 05:50.19 | sDES | QUACH-214: you are root of course yes? |
| 05:50.30 | QUACH-214 | /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 05:50.41 | QUACH-214 | /dev/hdb1 on /hd2 type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 05:50.49 | sDES | QUACH-214: so, it's ext3... |
| 05:50.57 | QUACH-214 | yes im root |
| 05:51.17 | sDES | QUACH-214: first you use parted , then you reboot(I think parted will prompt you to) |
| 05:51.25 | QUACH-214 | next stop is what? i will apt-get install qparted ? |
| 05:51.28 | sDES | QUACH-214: but read the man page first ( man parted ) |
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| 05:51.56 | sDES | QUACH-214: apt-get install parted |
| 05:51.56 | QUACH-214 | i have read it but dont understand clearly enough |
| 05:52.03 | QUACH-214 | i have installed it |
| 05:52.07 | QUACH-214 | and then? |
| 05:52.27 | sDES | QUACH-214: then it might not work right enough, and you probably wouldn't like that |
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| 05:53.13 | QUACH-214 | ?? |
| 05:53.17 | nse | I'm running electricsheep 2.6 and it's displaying this msg when running: "cannot find xv port" i've tried to reconfigure it with dpkg without results, is there anything i can do to go round this problem? |
| 05:53.24 | sDES | QUACH-214: I have only used parted through frontends like qparted, which are quite comprehensible....I'm not sure about the command line |
| 05:53.51 | QUACH-214 | oh yes |
| 05:54.04 | QUACH-214 | via SSH i can only use command line |
| 05:54.12 | valdyn | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| 05:54.28 | jm_ | nse: do you have XVideo extension? |
| 05:54.35 | sDES | QUACH-214: I know :) |
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| 05:55.11 | Pozican | I'm in xfce -- I can only see part of my screen at a time -- if I move my mouse to the edge of the screen, my screen scrolls... Any ideas? |
| 05:55.39 | jm_ | Pozican: /msg dpkg any ideas |
| 05:55.48 | pipeline | Pozican: use xrandr to change your resolution |
| 05:56.07 | pipeline | Pozican: Alternately, configure the maximum resolution to be the same as the resolution in use |
| 05:56.15 | greyson | Pozican: You have your default screen resolution set too high -- try pressing ctrl-alt-<numpad +> and see what happens. |
| 05:56.28 | Pozican | thanks greyson |
| 05:56.30 | Pozican | will that stick? |
| 05:56.30 | umm | hehe |
| 05:56.31 | Pozican | stay |
| 05:56.34 | Pozican | for next time? |
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| 05:56.48 | Pozican | I start x |
| 05:56.50 | Pozican | I mean |
| 05:57.01 | sep | Pozican: no |
| 05:57.07 | Pozican | :( |
| 05:57.11 | greyson | Pozican: No, you'll need to change your config. |
| 05:57.23 | Pozican | which part of it |
| 05:57.27 | Pozican | I changed my mode |
| 05:57.28 | sep | Pozican: /msg dpkg drxx for how to reconfigure |
| 05:57.30 | Pozican | but not the rest |
| 05:57.40 | greyson | Down near the bottom, usually it talks about ... hold on. |
| 05:57.57 | greyson | Pozican: You using XFree86? |
| 05:58.03 | jm_ | Virtual |
| 05:58.06 | nse | jm_: probably no, how to make sure of this? |
| 05:58.09 | Pozican | greyson -- unfortunatly |
| 05:58.11 | jm_ | nse: xdpyinfo |
| 05:58.11 | Pozican | yes |
| 05:58.53 | greyson | Poz: XF86Config-4 then. There's a 'Section "Screen"' part. |
| 05:59.14 | greyson | Find the default depth, and make sure that the highest resolution is listed first. |
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| 05:59.28 | Pozican | ok |
| 05:59.54 | Pozican | brb |
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| 06:00.44 | nse | jm_: yes I have Xvideo extension, what to do now? |
| 06:00.48 | Pozican | yay |
| 06:00.49 | Pozican | thanks :D |
| 06:01.01 | vinux | Well so far I would have to say I'm impressed with debian. |
| 06:01.10 | QUACH-214 | sDES can you tell me the source list i can install qtparted? |
| 06:01.19 | jm_ | nse: not sure what else it might be refering to then |
| 06:01.25 | QUACH-214 | i have try to apt-get install qtparted but it says cant find that source |
| 06:01.29 | Pozican | I tried putting a symbolic link in /usr/bin to a executable program I made -- but it doesn't seem that /usr/bin is in my path -- any idea? |
| 06:01.59 | sDES | QUACH-214: apt-get install qtparted, works for me |
| 06:02.18 | greyson | Pozican: No problem. |
| 06:02.49 | greyson | Pozican: Make sure the executable bit is set 'chmod +x <program>' |
| 06:02.50 | QUACH-214 | sDES may you see your source list in etc/apt and tell me your source list now? |
| 06:02.54 | umm | Pozican: Is it a problem? |
| 06:03.01 | pilgrim | What category does MySQL fit into in this page http://packages.debian.org/stable/ (I just want to find out what MySQL version sarge has/uses) |
| 06:03.04 | QUACH-214 | i think i need to add some thing into my source list to have it install |
| 06:03.06 | greyson | Otherwise, having it in your path doesn't help. |
| 06:03.36 | sDES | QUACH-214: I haven't added anything |
| 06:03.42 | jm_ | pilgrim: use the search option on p.d.o |
| 06:04.19 | pilgrim | jm_, I'm not sure what p.d.o (I don't have debian installed yet). |
| 06:04.19 | sDES | QUACH-214: just default stuff ( I'm using unstable) |
| 06:05.00 | jm_ | pilgrim: packages.debian.org |
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| 06:05.35 | pilgrim | jm_, thanks (i have missed those blue buttons :) |
| 06:06.13 | jm_ | pilgrim: they're gray here ;) |
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| 06:06.24 | l984 | If I want to reinstall debian, can I simply change lilo.conf to point to root.bin and rescue.bin reboot? |
| 06:06.25 | pilgrim | jm_, lol |
| 06:07.08 | jm_ | l984: of course not |
| 06:08.03 | l984 | Is there anyway I can break the boot up and boot the root image ? |
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| 06:08.13 | rommer | is php5 apt-gettable ? |
| 06:08.47 | Sunblade | rommer: how about using apt-cache |
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| 06:08.58 | budluva1 | rommer, doesnt look like it |
| 06:09.04 | rommer | how about im not using debian |
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| 06:10.04 | Sunblade | rommer: You also can find this information on www.debian.org if ofcourse you're looking for a deb |
| 06:10.18 | Agrajag- | if you're not using debian then why'd you come here to ask |
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| 06:11.10 | l984 | I got testing installed, and I'm trying to go back to sarge, but instead of tinkering dselect all night, I want to boot root.bin and start from scratch, can I do this from a existing install |
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| 06:12.47 | quittt | coollll |
| 06:12.49 | quittt | found old Pink Floyd and Beatles music playing together |
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| 06:15.42 | QUACH-214 | sDES im now reszie partition , parted ask me start and END position? what is that? |
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| 06:17.12 | sDES | QUACH-214: I'm GUESSING it's cylinder numbers but check the man pages |
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| 06:19.11 | QUACH-214 | thanks :) |
| 06:19.20 | QUACH-214 | i must unmount partition before parted it? |
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| 06:19.36 | sDES | QUACH-214: yes, of course |
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| 06:21.07 | adept | good morning(?) |
| 06:21.30 | QUACH-214 | hmm when i just connect via SSH, if i unmount hda1 then i cant connect my server any more |
| 06:21.30 | QUACH-214 | :) |
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| 06:22.22 | spo0nman | is there a way to make untar not overwrite already untared files? is it any efficient? im trying to untar a VERY BIG files. |
| 06:22.34 | adept | say, anyone here experimented with kernel-patch-suspend2 + kernel-source-2.6.11-7? |
| 06:22.36 | spo0nman | s/file./archive/ |
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| 06:22.46 | ravn | anyone: what's wrong when abcde says: "cd-discid: /dev/hde: CDROMREADTOCHDR: Invalid argument"? |
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| 06:23.11 | adept | ravn: not an audio CD? :) |
| 06:23.25 | ravn | adept: no, it is |
| 06:23.51 | adept | ravn: not a multisession with first session being data? |
| 06:24.00 | sDES | QUACH-214: Yeap... I think you might be needing physical access!Boot with a live cd or sth.Sorry :( |
| 06:24.24 | liable | adept: yes |
| 06:24.36 | ravn | no, I can rip it from my other CDROM-drive, but it's old and takes alot of time... |
| 06:24.50 | zyg | i have a problem with my debian system:the 8139too driver for my ethernet used to work well in kernel 2.6,but for these days when the system starts ,it shows "unspec",and i couldn't connect to network any more,then i have to use kernel 2.4,but i couldn't here the sound then. it's so pity,could someone help me ? |
| 06:25.18 | QUACH-214 | sDES yes :) i must pay extra cost for hosting company to do it |
| 06:25.23 | QUACH-214 | what a bad day |
| 06:25.26 | QUACH-214 | thanks |
| 06:25.27 | QUACH-214 | :) |
| 06:25.48 | sDES | QUACH-214: shit...sorry man... |
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| 06:26.40 | danikata | hi all |
| 06:26.41 | adept | liable: have you had any luck? :) If so, could i borrow you .config? |
| 06:26.44 | BlueShift | zyg: check if the sound driver is loaded in 2.4. if it has a problem loading, install alsa. |
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| 06:27.23 | liable | adept: patched fine, just say yes to all the options (built in) and get the scripts from apt. |
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| 06:28.05 | liable | adept: pretty self explanatory reall, just follow the howto on the home page for it. |
| 06:28.21 | BlueShift | zyg: please don't pm. install alsa then. |
| 06:28.43 | Coke | Is there a configuration for the tab-completion? It escapes $ when I try to use environment variables and it's annoying the hell out of me. Where can I change it? |
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| 06:30.17 | adept | liable: do you have rootfs-related stuff (like ide, ext2/ext3, etc) compiled in or in modules? |
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| 06:30.44 | Draconicus | Hooray! The kernel compilation is correct this time. |
| 06:30.48 | liable | adept: compiled in, I dont use initrd. Is that the problem? kernel panics on boot? |
| 06:31.15 | pilgrim | Is mod_php not a package on it's own? |
| 06:31.19 | Draconicus | I think it was because of the copied config file that was improperly edited from 2.6.8 include to 2.6.12 include. |
| 06:31.28 | Draconicus | Damnit, Coke, you made me want a soda. |
| 06:31.39 | pilgrim | lol |
| 06:31.47 | BlueShift | pilgrim: it's a separate package. |
| 06:31.48 | danikata | i try to run winbox (mikrotik router os) from debian, but i get fail.. the message is .. winsock : NTstatus error status code c000 converted code DOS error code |
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| 06:31.52 | MobyTurbo | !lol |
| 06:31.53 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a penguin. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 06:31.56 | adept | liable: yes, oops, but not on usual boot, only on resume attempt |
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| 06:32.45 | subvertir | lwazl |
| 06:32.53 | pilgrim | BlueShift, any ideas why I can't find it in packages.debian.org? |
| 06:33.05 | jm_ | Coke: who does? bash? |
| 06:33.20 | liable | adept: ahh, any clue what is causing it? you can unload modules with the config scripts. You got the right partition for resume stated? |
| 06:33.35 | BlueShift | pilgrim: it's libapache(2)-mod-php4 |
| 06:33.44 | Coke | jm_: yep. |
| 06:33.53 | BlueShift | pilgrim: it's a dash, not an underscore. |
| 06:34.11 | adept | liable: yep |
| 06:34.11 | liable | adept: only thing I suggest is 1) logs 2) google your hardware + suspend2 |
| 06:34.21 | doug | regarding apt-get... I did an apt-get remove apache2, then apt-get install apache (wanted to roll back) .. and it's the darndest thing, but even after a reboot apache2 is still going and apache isn't even generating errors in its logs .. similar experience uninstalling gdm but that's a different story |
| 06:34.27 | pilgrim | BlueShift, oh... I see. Thanks. |
| 06:34.27 | adept | liable: i found out that there is such thing as #suspend2 |
| 06:34.29 | jm_ | Coke: hmm not here |
| 06:34.40 | adept | liable: got some help there, gotta try |
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| 06:34.58 | liable | adept: ok, good luck |
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| 06:35.08 | BlueShift | doug: if you don't care about the apache2 config, try purging it instead of just removing it. |
| 06:35.40 | BlueShift | doug: remove leaves the init script lying around i think. |
| 06:35.41 | doug | BlueShift: Wouldn't my system be looking to load apache 1 and its config on boot? |
| 06:35.56 | BlueShift | doug: the config for apache2 is different from apache1 i think. |
| 06:36.20 | reamtS | Is it possible to burn an ISO using dd? example: dd if=/tmp/image.iso of=/dev/cdrom |
| 06:36.27 | doug | So how come apache2 seems to be working a-okay, pumping out lots of pages? |
| 06:36.36 | doug | what does apt-get remove do |
| 06:36.42 | doug | this makes not that much sense |
| 06:36.51 | doug | do i need a purge flag? |
| 06:37.05 | jm_ | doug: they don't conflict - apache2 is not the real thing |
| 06:37.17 | BlueShift | doug: apt-get remove will leave the config and the init script. apt-get remove --purge will remove everything related to apache2. |
| 06:37.27 | jm_ | reamtS: no |
| 06:37.29 | doug | ok thank you vm |
| 06:37.52 | jm_ | doug: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l|grep apache2 and remove everything |
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| 06:38.05 | jm_ | vm, I have never been called that so far |
| 06:38.21 | doug | so if i did apt-get remove apache2 --purge ; apt-get remove apache ; reboot , if i tried to telnet to port 80 on localhost, not much would happen right? |
| 06:38.25 | quittt | !applejuice |
| 06:38.26 | doug | just want to doublecheck |
| 06:38.36 | jm_ | you'd still have apache2 serving pages |
| 06:38.47 | quittt | !applejuice is a album from Pink Floyd and Beatles made in 1967 |
| 06:38.47 | dpkg | okay, quittt |
| 06:38.49 | BlueShift | doug: yes... i think the purge flag has to be before the name of the package. |
| 06:39.02 | doug | ok |
| 06:39.10 | BlueShift | doug: that would leave the config for apache though. |
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| 06:39.20 | karsten | It's an identify-friend-or-pho system. |
| 06:39.31 | doug | bluefox83: would i have to get rid of that manually? |
| 06:39.38 | doug | i mean blueshift |
| 06:39.40 | doug | sorry |
| 06:39.45 | bluefox83 | heh..that was odd.. |
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| 06:40.02 | doug | ... gettin' a little lazy with the irc client |
| 06:40.04 | bluefox83 | i was like "why the hell would anyone be talking to me in here.." |
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| 06:40.15 | karsten | bluefox83: meet tab completion. |
| 06:40.41 | bluefox83 | karsten, yeah, i'm very well aquainted with tab :P |
| 06:40.43 | bucky | bluefox83 / BlueShift |
| 06:40.46 | BlueShift | doug: purging apache would of course get rid of the config for it too. |
| 06:40.51 | karsten | bluefox83: Dittos ;-) |
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| 06:40.58 | doug | bluefox83: we can hang later :) |
| 06:41.03 | bluefox83 | lol |
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| 06:41.16 | doug | BlueShift: OK so --purge is the way to go when I just want a total divorce from something |
| 06:41.22 | BlueShift | doug: yes. |
| 06:41.37 | umm | ... |
| 06:41.41 | jm_ | and start using aptitude, it helps with such tasks |
| 06:42.02 | bucky | doug, what did you run before debian? |
| 06:42.16 | doug | yeah but now i'm trying to fix x as well so .. well aptitude will have to wait |
| 06:42.17 | BlueShift | i wish aptitude had an option where you could purge automatically installed packages too. |
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| 06:42.23 | doug | bucky: debian |
| 06:42.29 | jm_ | it does that by default |
| 06:42.34 | doug | before that, mandrake, redhat, slackware |
| 06:42.36 | karsten | bucky: ...a ten minute mile? |
| 06:42.43 | umm | gentoo? |
| 06:43.05 | BlueShift | jm_: it does? hmmm... didn't know. i sometimes see config files left over. or i must be imagining things. heh. |
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| 06:43.25 | dn4 | has anyone here used Final Scratch? |
| 06:43.29 | jm_ | BlueShift: ahh wait, yes you're right - it removes them, but config files remain |
| 06:43.42 | dn4 | It is a stripped down version of debian, and I wanted to know how to get it to work with the internet. |
| 06:43.50 | jm_ | at least he would benefit from it removing all apache2 related packages ;) |
| 06:43.54 | dn4 | I have apt-get but it does not seem to connect :( |
| 06:43.55 | doug | hey blueshift .. do subdir'ed .htaccesses override one that is in the document root dir as specified by the config? |
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| 06:44.02 | umm | DIY -> LFS -> gentoo -> debian -> slackware -> fedora -> mandriva ( so hard this) |
| 06:44.06 | BlueShift | jm_: i'd be happy with an option that will purge everything marked c in aptitude. :) |
| 06:44.18 | dn4 | what is DIY and LFS? |
| 06:44.36 | BlueShift | doug: i have no idea how to use htaccess. :p |
| 06:44.50 | bLAStY_ | dn4: do it yourself(?) and linux from scratch |
| 06:44.54 | BlueShift | dn4: DIY = do it yourself. LFS = linux from scratch |
| 06:44.57 | umm | next RH-Enprise <- easy |
| 06:45.32 | doug | ok well let me ask you this - how can i rm every, in this case, .htaccess file all the way down a sub dir tree so i can just clean house? |
| 06:45.38 | jm_ | doug: there's a setting for this in apache's config, called AllowOverride |
| 06:45.41 | umm | computer master said |
| 06:46.07 | mdh | doug: find .htaccess | xargs rm -f |
| 06:46.09 | umm | "return to the source" |
| 06:46.24 | dn4 | how do I get debian to work online? |
| 06:46.31 | dn4 | i have a ethernet card and such |
| 06:46.35 | BlueShift | doug: would rm -r .htaccess work? or maybe you can do it with find, sed, and awk. :p |
| 06:46.36 | dn4 | netgear 311 |
| 06:46.38 | doug | jm_: ah that's what that does :) |
| 06:46.44 | dn4 | maybe go into the kernel and configure that |
| 06:46.49 | dn4 | maybe update the kernel hehehe |
| 06:46.53 | dn4 | that would be a start |
| 06:46.54 | doug | mdh Nice little command syntax, gonna write that one down |
| 06:47.04 | doug | you must have manned that |
| 06:47.15 | mdh | doug: no, I rmember stuff like that |
| 06:47.18 | BlueShift | oooh... mdh's command was simpler. hehe |
| 06:47.23 | dn4 | I will figure more out later right now I am just happy final scratch works :) |
| 06:47.31 | dn4 | and in linux at that |
| 06:47.32 | dn4 | :) |
| 06:47.32 | bLAStY_ | for i in `find .htaccess`; do rm -rf $i; done; |
| 06:47.34 | bLAStY_ | ;-) |
| 06:47.56 | tcsetattr | find .htaccess does not do what you apparently think it does |
| 06:48.02 | doug | BlueShift: yeah now that you mention the simple rm -r thing, suppose i could do that, or do the other thing and feel slightly badass |
| 06:48.07 | bLAStY_ | find / -name .htaccess |
| 06:48.12 | mdh | doug: in general, you "find -print0" and pipe to "xargs -0" so that funny characters in filenames don't screw you over. but in the case of .htaccess that doesn't matter |
| 06:48.21 | BlueShift | or find . -name .htaccess |
| 06:48.30 | bLAStY_ | yep, depending on what you wanst |
| 06:48.33 | bLAStY_ | want* |
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| 06:48.53 | bLAStY_ | find(1) manpage is so big, I never took my time to read it completely hehe |
| 06:48.58 | doug | i do find | grep porn-get.tar.gz |
| 06:49.00 | inu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.05 | doug | i'm a grep man |
| 06:49.07 | BlueShift | bLAStY_: sometimes you wouldn't want every htaccess file. :p |
| 06:49.23 | bLAStY_ | that's why I said, DEPENDING on what you WANT |
| 06:49.56 | BlueShift | bLAStY_: sorry. i'm sleepy. heh |
| 06:50.27 | doug | hey who do you think is more debian like in terms of being able to answer questions elitely, the efnet #apache guys or the ones on freenode #gallery |
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| 06:50.42 | mdh | inu: I think you might get quoting trouble with that |
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| 06:51.09 | bLAStY_ | doug, I don't know both channels, to be honest |
| 06:51.18 | doug | because i dont want to get yelled at by dpkg for asking an apache question defending myself that the dudes in #apache couldn't help .. he's viturative. |
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| 06:51.44 | Guerin | doug: itym viputerative |
| 06:52.08 | doug | itym?? |
| 06:52.10 | Guerin | doug: freenode has a #apache too |
| 06:52.29 | doug | yeah i know but they're not batting 1000 like you guys |
| 06:52.55 | doug | I'd better stop talking about any different channels or irc networks |
| 06:52.56 | Guerin | doug: using the debian gallery package? |
| 06:52.59 | vladkao | there are less than 900 here, and most of them are not talking at all :> |
| 06:53.14 | vladkao | ... like me :D |
| 06:53.27 | doug | Guerin: Actually yeah i have some of those questions too, and there is a #gallery channel in addition to a #gallery-support one |
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| 06:53.33 | mdh | vladkao: that's because there's like 10 real people and 890 bots |
| 06:53.42 | liable | heh |
| 06:53.44 | vladkao | probably.. |
| 06:54.07 | Coke | jm_: my readline interface escapes $ all the time. |
| 06:54.10 | technos | Or they could just be like me.. AFK, asleep, working, IRC still going in a screen session somewhere. |
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| 06:54.29 | Coke | jm_: it used to expand the variables to whatever they were containing if they existed, but never have I seen the $ escaped. |
| 06:54.34 | jm_ | Coke: odd, it works OK for me, I have pretty much default bash config, because I don't use bash |
| 06:54.49 | vladkao | technos: yeah, working and screen :-) |
| 06:54.55 | Coke | jm_: yeah. I have the default, but with the completion script sourced. |
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| 06:55.14 | Coke | jm_: it's the bash completion script that mess thigns up |
| 06:55.15 | jm_ | Coke: same here, I enabled that and it didn't change a thing |
| 06:55.42 | doug | i just think if i ask #apache How come apache2 just randomly dies on a high load after being on a month only later to die similarly (not affecting the rest of the system) shortly later? if i ask that the #debian guys will say (unless i conceal it) go to #gallery then the #gallery guys will say go to #apache and them bitchx will crash |
| 06:55.44 | inu | mdh, you don't, find isn't so silly ;) |
| 06:55.58 | doug | i mean low load |
| 06:55.58 | Coke | jm_: perhaps a bug was snuck in there in an older version and all I have to do is upgrade that script. |
| 06:56.07 | doug | low, high, doesn't seem to matter |
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| 06:56.36 | doug | i mean ask the #apache guys, then #gallery, not #debian |
| 06:56.38 | jm_ | Coke: ahh yes, that might be it, I am using bash 2.05b-24, and -26 is available |
| 06:56.46 | doug | F it i'll drop it |
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| 06:57.16 | gudi | hi |
| 06:57.30 | liable | !confuse doug |
| 06:57.32 | dpkg | Yes, those is my weasel today, doug? breeches of the people's republic of tahiti with extra cream |
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| 06:57.46 | gudi | anyone knows the name of the debian mantainer channel ? |
| 06:57.51 | AciD|Wrk | oi |
| 06:58.14 | Coke | jm_: *sigh* I'm using testing so I'll just upgrade the ~50 packages that needs upgrading now. |
| 06:58.28 | mdh | #mandriva |
| 06:58.33 | Coke | jm_: maybe I should have stayed with sarge. |
| 06:58.40 | jm_ | Coke: not-fully-upgraded Sarge here |
| 06:58.43 | mdh | they would contain mantainers |
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| 06:59.36 | bluefox83 | Coke, you wouldn't happen to be female would you? i knew a chick who used that nick a few years back.. |
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| 06:59.54 | Guerin | gudi: there isn't one. If you need to contact a maintainer, email them or ask on debian-devel mailing list |
| 06:59.56 | danikata | hi.. |
| 07:00.08 | TuxMeister | hey there |
| 07:00.13 | danikata | how to change date ? |
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| 07:00.26 | jm_ | danikata: /msg dpkg set time |
| 07:00.37 | Coke | I just got a dialog when upgrading libpam-ldap. It gave me three statements and then I could answer Yes or No, but there never was a question, only three statements. |
| 07:00.40 | danikata | ok. thx jm_ |
| 07:00.41 | Coke | That sucks. |
| 07:00.42 | liable | #debian-mentors?? remember hearing that batted around before. |
| 07:00.43 | gudi | hmm ok |
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| 07:01.16 | gudi | liable, thanx that it is |
| 07:01.39 | Coke | bluefox83: no, but I do like getting flowers, does that count? |
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| 07:04.20 | nvz | liable: afaik debian-mentors is a mailing list not a channel |
| 07:04.33 | nvz | its for new maintainers to find a mentor |
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| 07:05.09 | liable | nvz: ahh, yeah wasnt sure what it actually was. never needed to know. |
| 07:05.22 | lachin | i want best mirror ftp addess for downlaod knoppix |
| 07:05.33 | lachin | any body guide me? |
| 07:05.35 | nvz | lachin: off-topic, goto #knoppix |
| 07:05.42 | nvz | lachin: best guide I can give you |
| 07:05.52 | doug | ehh just get a round robbin and cross your fingers or use bittorrent |
| 07:05.53 | CountZ | what's that file apache looks for to display in directories where indices are allowed |
| 07:06.02 | nvz | lachin: other than to tell you to forget knoppix and download debian-installer |
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| 07:06.43 | mdh | CountZ: whatever you specify in DirectoryIndex |
| 07:06.52 | doug | lachin i'm sure i saw a bittorrent link on their website |
| 07:07.08 | CountZ | mdh: ok thanks |
| 07:07.09 | lachin | address? |
| 07:07.35 | nvz | !d-i lachin |
| 07:07.37 | dpkg | lachin, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:08.07 | mdh | lachin: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search?knoppix |
| 07:08.24 | CountZ | mdh: ok not precise - DirectoryIndex will display just that file, I want it to continue displaying the file listing, but also some text (explanations) |
| 07:08.25 | nvz | lachin: either go there, or goto #knoppix, knoppix is _NOT_ debian or they would have just called it debian, and not wasted the extra development effort. this is *WAY* off-topic here |
| 07:08.30 | lachin | thanx |
| 07:08.51 | mdh | CountZ: README |
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| 07:09.11 | lachin | what is off topic? |
| 07:09.19 | lachin | dont undstant |
| 07:09.25 | tarzeau | knoppix is |
| 07:09.26 | greyson | Huh... thought it seemed quiet in this window.. |
| 07:09.29 | tarzeau | !debian based |
| 07:09.30 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 07:09.35 | tarzeau | !they don't know |
| 07:09.36 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 07:09.38 | nvz | lachin: knoppix is off-topic. this is a debian discussion channel, and knoppix has nothing what-so-ever to do with debian |
| 07:09.43 | Coke | jm_: bash 3.00 is the latest for testing it seems |
| 07:10.11 | takatumi | lachin: "off topic" means you don't get to raise knoppix problems here. |
| 07:10.17 | mdh | !notdebian knoppix |
| 07:10.18 | dpkg | Debian is all about policy. Policy guides everything. knoppix does not have Debian policy, ergo it is not Debian. |
| 07:10.18 | Coke | jm_: and it only escapes for the command "cd" |
| 07:10.34 | JohnnyST | Where can I get the mplayer-fonts ? |
| 07:10.41 | lachin | but knoppix room in deactive |
| 07:10.43 | tarzeau | JohnnyST: on the mplayer web page? |
| 07:10.48 | tarzeau | lachin: SO WHAT" |
| 07:10.49 | takatumi | JohnnyST: nothing on marillat? |
| 07:10.51 | JohnnyST | as debs. |
| 07:10.54 | tarzeau | lachin: WE DON'T GIVE ASHIT |
| 07:11.01 | lachin | anybody dont answer my question |
| 07:11.06 | tarzeau | lachin: if microsoft goes bankrupt. nobody cares. go #world-relations |
| 07:11.07 | takatumi | !confort tarzeau |
| 07:11.08 | JohnnyST | takatumi, they seems not to be at marillat anymore. |
| 07:11.08 | dpkg | There, there, takatumi. tarzeau will give a spelling checker for your birthday. |
| 07:11.18 | sep | lachin: not to forget that if you search on google for knoppix mirror, th mirror list is on the bloddy first hit, you you cant have even tried to find it by yourself |
| 07:11.20 | tarzeau | if sky falls on your head. so? |
| 07:11.24 | takatumi | tarzeau: no bot-fu ;-/ |
| 07:11.32 | tarzeau | takatumi: some people just don't get it |
| 07:11.51 | mdh | http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=knoppix |
| 07:11.54 | takatumi | !get me |
| 07:11.56 | tarzeau | sep: if you help them, they will keep asking off-topic shit |
| 07:11.59 | mort_ | lachin: if you need a knoppix mirror, check the knoppix site, whats the problem with it? |
| 07:12.27 | Coke | jm_: I'm reporting a bug on cd for escaping dollar characters and ls for not completing environment variables at all. :) |
| 07:12.31 | lachin | but i,m downloaded knoppix in mirror with leech downloader |
| 07:12.34 | nvz | bah your stupidity caused me to loose this race :P that and the fact I picked up a semi truck to race in |
| 07:12.36 | sep | tarzeau: i had hoped that if he went to google and found it now, perhaps he had learnt something ? |
| 07:12.50 | takatumi | mort_: you the same guy that stole all my bonus jewels? |
| 07:12.51 | lachin | but alwayes download 464Meg |
| 07:12.59 | tarzeau | lachin: use wget |
| 07:13.01 | lachin | dont download correctly |
| 07:13.09 | nvz | lachin: For fucks sake, knoppix is off-topic, goto #knoppix, or download debian |
| 07:13.19 | mort_ | takatumi: you mean yesterday? hell yeah! :-) |
| 07:13.20 | lachin | whther wget for win? |
| 07:13.24 | nvz | how hard is that to understand |
| 07:13.30 | tarzeau | lachin: yes wget exists also for wingdows |
| 07:13.35 | Guerin | lachin: you don't even know how to download a file. What makes you think you can actually RUN knoppix? |
| 07:13.37 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.40 | lachin | thanx |
| 07:13.48 | greyson | lachin: '/join #knoppix' I saw a lot of people there just now. |
| 07:13.58 | lachin | ok |
| 07:14.01 | lachin | sorry |
| 07:14.05 | lachin | thanks |
| 07:14.19 | lachin | i,m working soon debian |
| 07:14.31 | tarzeau | lachin: i doubt |
| 07:14.31 | lachin | knoppix working now |
| 07:14.34 | lachin | good luck |
| 07:14.39 | jm_ | Coke: did you check how it works? |
| 07:14.45 | greyson | lachin, come back when you've got that, we're a lot friendlier to debian people. |
| 07:14.59 | lachin | ok |
| 07:15.02 | lachin | ;) |
| 07:15.05 | mdh | we only swear at debian people we like |
| 07:15.12 | greyson | !tell lachin about enter |
| 07:15.19 | takatumi | tarzeau: http://gpoppy.org/2005-06-02-012847_1024x768_scrot.png gotcha! |
| 07:15.35 | mdh | isnt that right you rabid bunch of nutsacks |
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| 07:15.56 | greyson | mdh, yeah, you overzealous deb-whore! |
| 07:16.03 | tarzeau | takatumi: because i was taking screenshots |
| 07:16.09 | tarzeau | takatumi: when the diamonds were falling! |
| 07:16.13 | takatumi | tarzeau: yeah right. |
| 07:16.13 | bLAStY_ | what kind of windowmanager is that ? :P ratpoison? |
| 07:16.19 | mort_ | bLAStY_: ion |
| 07:16.29 | bLAStY_ | some minimalistic thing it seems ? |
| 07:16.39 | tarzeau | lol he doesn't ask what that cute game is but for the window manager |
| 07:16.46 | takatumi | tarzeau: I don't see any screenshots of me grabbing rubies. |
| 07:16.49 | bLAStY_ | I know the game.. |
| 07:16.52 | tarzeau | bLAStY_: far better than kde or gnome, if you ask me |
| 07:16.59 | Coke | jm_: yes, it's tons of advanced bash scripting that does the magic for each command. I might be able to change it myself if I spend a couple of hours on it, but I'll just file a bug as minor. |
| 07:17.08 | tarzeau | takatumi: why's your hostname gpops? |
| 07:17.25 | bLAStY_ | I switched from KDE to fluxbox/blackbox and now I'm on XFCE4 |
| 07:17.25 | Coke | jm_: do you have the same problem? |
| 07:17.28 | bLAStY_ | pretty satisfied with it.. |
| 07:17.31 | takatumi | tarzeau: just |
| 07:17.35 | Coke | jm_: try cd $H<tab> |
| 07:17.45 | Coke | jm_: it should yield cd \$HOME |
| 07:17.54 | doug | hey is there an lspci-like command or a package to test my chip's clockspeed? |
| 07:17.56 | Coke | jm_: while ls $H won't complete at all. |
| 07:17.57 | mdh | ion3 is cool |
| 07:18.05 | mort_ | bLAStY_: try wmaker next time |
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| 07:18.26 | bLAStY_ | window maker? nahh |
| 07:18.33 | mort_ | bLAStY_: you need some time to get used to, but after a while you can't let go |
| 07:18.48 | mdh | right now I run pekwm |
| 07:18.56 | tarzeau | takatumi: http://gpoppy.org/2005-04-01-011442_1024x768_scrot.png haha what's polygen pythoniser ? |
| 07:18.58 | mdh | have debs, don't have a sponsor ;P |
| 07:19.07 | takatumi | bLAStY_: ion3 is cool if you can read one manpage and like to chuck the mouse. |
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| 07:19.34 | takatumi | tarzeau: it's packaged, I forget. |
| 07:19.41 | mdh | takatumi: I had to duck a mouse someone threw once.... ;) |
| 07:19.51 | bucky | lachin do you know Pishro Rayaneh Gorgan ? |
| 07:19.52 | doug | can a ext3 booted box mount a slave HD with reiserfs? |
| 07:19.53 | greyson | I'm still looking for a windowmanager to read my mind. |
| 07:20.07 | Guerin | doug: why would it not be able to? |
| 07:20.11 | kneet | greyson, dwimwm - yes - I'l like that too |
| 07:20.13 | lachin | ok |
| 07:20.14 | mdh | doug: if the kernel supports reiserfs, yes |
| 07:20.26 | lachin | u from know ? |
| 07:20.26 | doug | Just checking |
| 07:20.27 | mdh | greyson: I want to write one of those |
| 07:20.30 | bucky | lachin, what is your native language? |
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| 07:20.46 | greyson | mdh: What do you think it would take? |
| 07:20.51 | lachin | farsi and turkmen |
| 07:20.59 | jm_ | Coke: don't have bash3 installed |
| 07:21.00 | bucky | i see |
| 07:21.03 | mdh | mi pollo no tiene ningún labio |
| 07:21.12 | lachin | bucky where are u come from? |
| 07:21.18 | bucky | utah |
| 07:21.24 | greyson | mdh: I'm still working on my approx-placement/minimal-coverage algorithm for FVWM... though not recently. |
| 07:21.56 | takatumi | tarzeau: would be good if we could polygenise a few dpkg factoids. :) |
| 07:21.58 | mdh | greyson: I'm still in the design stage for shitjustworks.C |
| 07:22.03 | bucky | lachin i just thought this was a pretty website http://www.pishronet.com/ |
| 07:22.43 | greyson | mdh: Nice -- When you get that working, I'll throw you a python port... just so it's in python too... even though I don't know python. |
| 07:22.56 | mdh | hahahaha |
| 07:23.29 | mdh | thats okay, one of the VB gumbies here force-learned python in about 15 minutes |
| 07:23.46 | mdh | he had to fix a python component someone else wrote |
| 07:23.46 | Coke | jm_: it seems broken in earlier versions too. the entire bash_completion thingie is relatively new and was pretty much unusable a couple of years back. |
| 07:23.52 | Coke | jm_: so it's not strange to find some bugs in it. |
| 07:24.12 | Coke | Bug reported as minor inconvenience. |
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| 07:27.17 | bucky | !seen K_Dallas |
| 07:27.19 | dpkg | k_dallas is currently on #debian (3h 4m 18s). Has said a total of 2494 messages. Is idling for 2h 56m 45s |
| 07:27.27 | bucky | heya K_Dallas |
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| 07:27.41 | thejackelope | hi folks |
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| 07:27.53 | jm_ | Coke: it works for me in 2.05 - I use zsh, so it doesn't bother me much |
| 07:27.53 | thejackelope | why are the non us repositories down |
| 07:28.25 | liable | !topicsmite thejackelope |
| 07:28.26 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon thejackelope. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 07:28.35 | nvz | thejackelope: there are no non-us repositories read the /topic |
| 07:28.36 | mdh | thejackelope: didn't you hear? america has taken over the world. we're all us now. |
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| 07:28.43 | bucky | thejackelope, non-us is no more /topic |
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| 07:29.04 | thejackelope | oh the little tiny print at the end |
| 07:29.11 | liable | thejackelope: get the idea :P |
| 07:29.14 | technos | We are the United States of Borg. Resistance is.. Damnit, I can't bring myself to finish it |
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| 07:29.50 | prplstarlette | how do I install sun java...its in bin format and im kinda new to linux and new to debian |
| 07:30.00 | thejackelope | how will this affect Debian? There will still be worldwild contributors right? |
| 07:30.04 | nvz | prplstarlette: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 07:30.08 | jetx | ./blah.cin |
| 07:30.12 | jetx | err bin |
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| 07:30.25 | JohnnyST | thejackelope, http://www.crazysquirrel.com/debian/install-sun-java.php |
| 07:30.35 | jetx | any moron can install java: i know, i did. |
| 07:30.37 | nvz | !tell jetx about java-package |
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| 07:30.43 | jetx | been there |
| 07:30.49 | thejackelope | why do I want to install sun-java JohnnyST |
| 07:31.04 | nvz | !tell thejackelope -about java-package |
| 07:31.05 | jetx | i install the sun because sun likes me |
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| 07:31.31 | liable | do whap do whap |
| 07:31.36 | jetx | !worship the_sun |
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| 07:31.43 | Guerin | jetx: how about opensolaris? |
| 07:31.53 | jetx | i know nothing |
| 07:32.18 | thejackelope | the java I have works so I'll stick with it |
| 07:32.57 | thejackelope | I was wanting to ask if there were any plans to have XPde added to the debian repository |
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| 07:33.10 | jetx | xpde is pay per view isn't it |
| 07:33.18 | karsten | thejackelope: Is it even still being developed? |
| 07:33.18 | thejackelope | it's hideous but it helps newbies make their transition away from the evil empire |
| 07:33.20 | nvz | thejackelope: nope |
| 07:33.24 | thejackelope | no it's free |
| 07:33.31 | thejackelope | karsten: it's still being developed I believe |
| 07:33.33 | jetx | i actually liked the morphix module that had it |
| 07:33.35 | prplstarlette | argh...im trying to get that freaking java-package but its saying its not there to download |
| 07:33.46 | nvz | thejackelope: if its DFSG free, then you can always package it |
| 07:33.51 | jetx | !info java-package |
| 07:33.53 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.24 (sid), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 07:33.55 | karsten | thejackelope: I don't think there's been a release for ~1 year, and a working one for longer. |
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| 07:33.59 | Guerin | prplstarlette: contrib |
| 07:34.00 | jetx | need contrib |
| 07:34.12 | thejackelope | so much for that idea |
| 07:34.56 | thejackelope | since the non-US repositories are going it sure seems like things update much faster |
| 07:35.09 | nvz | s/going/gone/ |
| 07:35.17 | thejackelope | that too |
| 07:35.33 | dondelelcaro | there really hasn't been anything in non-us for ages, so it would have just been a Hit on those repositories |
| 07:35.47 | thejackelope | It's 3:30 in the morning nvz and I'm not writing on my novel so I let my english slide |
| 07:35.53 | postel | why they're gone? what happen to the strong crypto export regulations? |
| 07:36.18 | nvz | thejackelope: I am in the middle of a race in GTA-SA and still have time to pick out your english at 3:35am |
| 07:36.35 | thejackelope | roflmao good point nvz |
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| 07:36.58 | thirteen | how can I message another user on the same linux machine via telnet/ssh from a command line |
| 07:37.12 | ram123 | unable to save a file using vi ; am running on serial port ?. |
| 07:37.17 | Sunblade | thirteen: man write |
| 07:37.19 | ram123 | what could be the problem ? |
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| 07:37.24 | tzafrir | thirteen, write (1) |
| 07:37.32 | thirteen | write user ? |
| 07:37.41 | nvz | ahh! fuck! if I use catalina's car I end up in the river every time because its too fast, and if I use a Semi-Truck its too slow and doesnt turn good, so at the end when I have to go uphill I loose |
| 07:37.50 | ram123 | i am using usb-serial. |
| 07:38.00 | tzafrir | ram123, you can't write to that file? another vi has that file open? read-only filesystem? |
| 07:38.01 | prplstarlette | i just did a chmod thingie |
| 07:38.06 | thirteen | Sunblade: how do I use write.. like 'write john message' |
| 07:38.07 | thirteen | ? |
| 07:38.11 | nvz | s/loose/lose/ |
| 07:38.14 | greyson | nvz: ? |
| 07:38.16 | ram123 | no it is not the case. |
| 07:38.17 | dondelelcaro | nvz: ? is this GTA SA? |
| 07:38.18 | Sunblade | thirteen: Read the write manual page. |
| 07:38.24 | thejackelope | How long til apt-get porn works? |
| 07:38.28 | tzafrir | 'echo test |write' looks better on the other side |
| 07:38.29 | ram123 | vi is not accepting when i say :wq |
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| 07:38.34 | dondelelcaro | thejackelope: it already does. see lesbian.mine.nu |
| 07:38.45 | bucky | thejackelope, i found something really sick.. but you'll like it |
| 07:38.46 | bucky | DebXPde is a Knoppix-based Linux distribution which integrates the XPde user interface into Linux |
| 07:38.47 | kneet | thejackelope, and you could try apt-get pornview :) |
| 07:38.47 | greyson | ram123: Did you hit <escape>? |
| 07:38.51 | ram123 | i can keep on pressing return <enter> key and nothing happens |
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| 07:38.53 | ram123 | yes |
| 07:38.57 | nvz | dondelelcaro: *nod* I was doing fine until I started racing, now I have been on the same misson for nearly 40min |
| 07:39.06 | ram123 | i have a machine which has 2 serial ports |
| 07:39.08 | greyson | ram123: Try ':wq!' |
| 07:39.23 | ram123 | yes i did. but it is not saving ? |
| 07:39.26 | dondelelcaro | nvz: ah... yeah, I haven't played that yet... true crime: streets of LA was pretty cool, though |
| 07:39.29 | thejackelope | bucky just the thing for newbies |
| 07:39.37 | bucky | postel, Homeland Security has computers big enough to crack anything you're using |
| 07:39.39 | greyson | ram123: Try <ctrl>-q |
| 07:39.42 | tzafrir | to be on the safe side: 'w!' |
| 07:39.45 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yeah I havent played it. I thought it looked decent on the commercial. |
| 07:39.45 | ram123 | does it have anything to do with serial ports. |
| 07:39.55 | ram123 | i am using usb-serial port. |
| 07:39.59 | thejackelope | Even though my customized AS2 is very intuitive and very easy, the newbs still can't get used to seeing something different before them |
| 07:39.59 | tzafrir | ram123, probably not |
| 07:40.06 | ram123 | and running vi on it. |
| 07:40.06 | dondelelcaro | it's always funny when you know LA well enough to not ever need to look at the in game map |
| 07:40.18 | nvz | I need to get this race beat, and get off this game.. I got work to do getting LeetLUG organized (: |
| 07:40.25 | ram123 | vi works on the normal serial port and not on the usb-serial port. |
| 07:40.27 | erps | Is there a squirrelmail equivelant for POP? |
| 07:40.31 | tzafrir | ram123, I gave you some possible reasons. what exactly is the error vi gives you? |
| 07:40.36 | thirteen | usage: write user [tty] |
| 07:40.37 | thirteen | mean? |
| 07:40.41 | tzafrir | erps, squirrelmail |
| 07:40.50 | tzafrir | but pop3 does not support folders |
| 07:40.58 | ram123 | i can open the file and when i edit it ; i cant save it. |
| 07:41.02 | erps | tzafrir, :p ok, used to not support it at all. Thanks :) |
| 07:41.03 | jetx | !folders |
| 07:41.03 | dpkg | in non-moronic language, directories |
| 07:41.05 | prplstarlette | i use thunderbird for pop3 |
| 07:41.05 | jvw | tzafrir: pop has too limmited support to build webmail on |
| 07:41.07 | tzafrir | squirrelmail will work with a pop3 server, if you insist |
| 07:41.15 | greyson | ram123: You have write permissions? |
| 07:41.21 | ram123 | it is not the problem of readonly or lack of space. i am sure about this. |
| 07:41.24 | tzafrir | with mail they are folders |
| 07:41.26 | ram123 | tes |
| 07:41.38 | jvw | tzafrir: for webmail to work well, you'll need operations like moving messages around, tagging them, etc |
| 07:41.39 | Coke | tzafrir: mine are directories |
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| 07:41.45 | tzafrir | They may nbe implemented as files, directories, or whatever |
| 07:41.45 | ram123 | has anyone worked on usb-serial here |
| 07:41.55 | umm | ? |
| 07:41.57 | greyson | !anyone |
| 07:41.57 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 07:41.58 | erps | generally for me webmail is just a quick "I can't access my mail via pop atm" |
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| 07:42.22 | nvz | LeetLUG is in its early stages, we have no website, no meeting place, and less than 5 members :P |
| 07:42.24 | Coke | ram123: what do you mean "worked on" ? |
| 07:42.35 | tzafrir | erps, there are tons of webmnail programs. Take your pick |
| 07:42.44 | umm | leetlug? |
| 07:42.52 | erps | tzafrir, I actually like squirrelmail, used it for a while. |
| 07:42.57 | nvz | umm: yep, I am starting a new lug (: |
| 07:43.03 | greyson | umm: He lives in a city called 'Leet' |
| 07:43.07 | erps | tzafrir, there a recommended imap server ot use on debian (in conjunction with squirrelmail)? And does it play nice with pop running on the same server? (have had problems with imap and pop running on the same server in the past) |
| 07:43.09 | technos | Good timing, as I was about to say "Umm... Leetlug?" |
| 07:43.09 | tzafrir | erps, so use it with that pop3 server |
| 07:43.09 | nvz | umm: going to promote GNU/Linux |
| 07:43.27 | bucky | L33TLUG |
| 07:43.28 | doug | Holla at squirrelmail, best lightweight and other good things |
| 07:43.34 | umm | debian <- ?? |
| 07:43.35 | tzafrir | IIRC squirrelmail has its own folders handling ("client side", in the database) |
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| 07:43.45 | tzafrir | But I may be mixing it with Horde |
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| 07:43.52 | umm | debian is GNU/Linux |
| 07:43.52 | greyson | tzafrir: It usually uses IMAP |
| 07:43.59 | Coke | erps: there are dozens of MTA's, protocol implementations and webmail implementations available. They usualy work well together because they use standards to communicate. |
| 07:44.13 | tzafrir | So I was mixing it with Horde/IMP |
| 07:44.26 | nvz | yeah we will be promoting Debian more specifically.. though I should probably learn to grow somewhat tolerant of other GNU/Linux |
| 07:44.30 | greyson | tzafrir: Or, at least that's how I've always had it configured in the past... until I discovered the joys of ssh+mutt |
| 07:44.33 | Diocles | umm: Except when it's GNU/Hurd, GNU/NetBSD, or GNU/kFreeBSD. ;) |
| 07:44.34 | ram123 | what could be wrong with vi. i am using busybox vi. |
| 07:44.41 | nvz | cause right now If it isnt debian I dont want to hear about it |
| 07:44.51 | empty | nvz, bah |
| 07:44.52 | bucky | ututo ? |
| 07:44.57 | tzafrir | greyson, what about screen? |
| 07:45.06 | Coke | ram123: what is your problem? |
| 07:45.06 | technos | Who wants to bet we'll see GNU/OpenSolaris in a month or two? |
| 07:45.07 | umm | Diocles: fsf/gnu did |
| 07:45.11 | doug | yes i believe it does have that, tzafrir .. horde's all fancy and pretty but heavier, also depending on configurations it can be a lot easier to get squirrelmail to handle multiple logins whereas horde's been known to accidentally let people bounce into each other's boxes |
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| 07:45.25 | erps | Coke, I realize there are tons of MTAs/etc. I was asking if Debian has a recommended one. Because last time I asked for help on an MTA that wasn't "recommended" I got waylayed by a band of bitchy newborns. |
| 07:45.30 | umm | Diocles: why another? |
| 07:45.36 | Coke | erps: the default MTA in Debian is exim4 |
| 07:45.36 | bucky | hi doug! :) |
| 07:45.52 | erps | Coke, I realize that. I was asking if ther eis a default IMAP handler. |
| 07:45.56 | Diocles | umm: Why try another kernel? Well, it makes a change, I suppose. |
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| 07:46.02 | erps | Coke, I was using it as an example. |
| 07:46.11 | Coke | erps: no, because by default you don't require IMAP |
| 07:46.15 | jvw | erps: there is no default IMAP server, but courier is often adviced |
| 07:46.15 | empty | erps, I am fond of courier personally |
| 07:46.16 | wols_ | erps: people usually use either courier or cyrus |
| 07:46.17 | umm | Diocles: ($$$ ?) |
| 07:46.41 | tzafrir | erps, Debian's defualt is Exim. Many others (like me) prefer Postfix (hense it is the default of "userlinux") |
| 07:46.46 | umm | Diocles: (right? ^_^) |
| 07:46.49 | erps | ok. using courier for pop, some reason hadn't realized it handled imap also, or I disabled it on accident, that's easy enough to fix. |
| 07:46.52 | Coke | erps: and exim4 isn't recommended, it's just default for the mandatory MTA |
| 07:46.55 | bucky | someday we will all be owned by hurd |
| 07:46.59 | erps | tzafrir, ok, thanks. |
| 07:47.07 | empty | erps- it's the courier-imap package |
| 07:47.26 | tzafrir | I really like dovecot. Quite simple to set up. reasonable performance. Has some annoying bugs, though (new mail with mutt) |
| 07:47.29 | umm | s/hurd/alix/ |
| 07:47.30 | erps | Coke, right. Sorry if I mistake Default to mean Recommended. Since it seems that if it's not recommended, then it probably shouldn't be default. But *shrug* |
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| 07:47.35 | erps | empty, was firugring that :) Thanks |
| 07:47.36 | wols_ | bucky: no doubt the same day we play DNF |
| 07:47.37 | nvz | so far I've installed Debian for two of my friends, who went to school for programming and never used their skills outside school; and I also installed debian on the new Judge's old HP Pavillion. so they will probably be the first members of LeetLUG.. though I have ideas of how to get all the rich yuppie fucks in the surrouding areas and the businesses interested. First I need a website, email address, and meeting place. then I can hold some eve |
| 07:47.41 | prplstarlette | ok now im trying to find where java installed to...so i can get konquerer to run it |
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| 07:47.50 | erps | empty, just let it slip pas tme at some time. |
| 07:47.52 | Diocles | umm: Heh, I'm not sure how much money is in the Hurd. |
| 07:48.05 | umm | $0 |
| 07:48.06 | nvz | I am hoping I can get the people I know that should be programming into doing what they do best |
| 07:48.12 | Coke | erps: what I recommend isn't necessarely what Debian or Mr T recommends |
| 07:48.20 | erps | empty, nevermind it is installed.. |
| 07:48.22 | erps | Coke, true :) |
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| 07:48.35 | Coke | erps: however, I will add that I do recommend exim4. :) |
| 07:48.38 | empty | nvz, rich yuppie fucks are probably interested in security as they have a lot to lose |
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| 07:48.42 | erps | Coke, for example, I prefer FreeBSD for a web server -- and prefer running qmail on BSD, but hey *shrug* |
| 07:48.45 | Zitter | sorry, why bloobot is not in stable? |
| 07:48.51 | Zitter | *blootbot |
| 07:48.54 | erps | I'm using Debian because I have to keep up with J2 support, yay. |
| 07:48.59 | empty | nvz, parents that are kind of geeky get interested in Debian Jr |
| 07:49.08 | wols_ | erps: what is J2 support? |
| 07:49.22 | empty | nvz, and there are the other Debian sub-projects aimed at lawyers offices and dentists etc |
| 07:49.22 | Tiberio | Hi, I'm trying to mount a remote directory via NFS. but I get this msg : mount RPC: Program no registered. |
| 07:49.34 | Coke | erps: yes. for reasons unknown to me many Debian users recommend qmail too. I used to use it before exim4 became stable (exim3 and it's Debian intergration was less than adequate IMHO) |
| 07:49.49 | empty | Tiberio, are you running portmap? |
| 07:49.55 | erps | wols_, j2sdk/j2eee/etc. Yes it is there for freeBSD, unfortunately for one of my apps it's not the most stable in freeBSD. |
| 07:50.14 | Tiberio | empty, yes in both client server |
| 07:50.14 | erps | Coke, it's a comfort issue, something we've used for years. |
| 07:50.17 | empty | Coke, qmail is a great MTA for many reasons |
| 07:50.23 | wols_ | erps: debian isn't the greatest distro for java either :) |
| 07:50.24 | umm | erp? |
| 07:50.34 | umm | real time apps? |
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| 07:50.46 | bucky | Coke, that's why there are so many patches for qmail... to make it do what people wanted.. nevermind bernstein's license |
| 07:50.52 | empty | Tiberio, weirdness. Is 111TCP in both /etc/services files? |
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| 07:50.56 | nvz | empty: well I've had many people ask me lately to use my PC to put music on their Phone or Ipod. like today I helped a girl I went to school with rip her cds and put them onto her minisd card for her phone.. I figure if I have a place to meet, I can have debian install parties, and maybe also show people who dont have pcs yet or dont want to install, what debian can do for them.. in the way of specific tasks like the ipods |
| 07:50.59 | Coke | Tiberio: http://tldp.org/LDP/nag/node1.html |
| 07:51.02 | Coke | Tiberio: find the section on NFS |
| 07:51.03 | wols_ | empty: and I hate it for many others: like its license, the dumb way it sets up things, going against all fs standards, etc |
| 07:51.20 | empty | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.22 | Coke | empty: yes it is, I just find exim4 even greater |
| 07:51.23 | tarzeau | java isn't the greatest language either :) |
| 07:51.31 | Coke | bucky: yes, that is the way free software usualy works. |
| 07:51.33 | erps | wols_, true. But choice was freebsd, debian, redhat, or Windows. I have issues with the latter two. The first kept crashing all the time. The second works and it's yet to crash. |
| 07:51.36 | erps | umm, yah. |
| 07:51.38 | nvz | empty: average people dont need to know everything, they just need to know what Debian GNU/Linux can do for them. |
| 07:51.47 | umm | ic |
| 07:52.04 | doug | i installed a www interface kinda prog that fires up on my .com/whatever/ but in the doc root there is no whatever directory nor is there a sym link that i can see.. how does it do that? |
| 07:52.15 | erps | I could have sat around and debugged java on freeBSD for another few weeks (already put 3 days into it) and eventually solved the problem - maybe. But *shrug* ok well. |
| 07:52.23 | empty | nvz, my point exactly |
| 07:52.23 | Tiberio | empty, I don't know.. wait.. |
| 07:53.02 | umm | real-time is black arts for wizzard |
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| 07:53.11 | erps | And for my personal system I use LFS - because I have some funky hardware on my laptop and in a few of my boxes that standard distros don't understand - or I don't want to spend the time figuring out their configuration structures in order to solve the problems, when I can do it from the beginning using LFS. |
| 07:53.20 | Coke | erps: stay away from Java |
| 07:53.39 | wols_ | Coke: it's already too late for him I guess |
| 07:53.40 | erps | And while LFS does mean I tend to know a fair amount about linux. It doesn't mean I know everything about every package, blah blah blah. Or how every distro decides things should be configured, installed, or setup. |
| 07:53.44 | bucky | doug where did you put this proggie? |
| 07:53.51 | Coke | Oh, but if you have the chance, throw Java out |
| 07:54.00 | umm | erps: not LFS |
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| 07:54.10 | Lam_al_Adie | hi there. |
| 07:54.15 | umm | erps: I think |
| 07:54.18 | doug | bucky it's in usr share and it also has some data in /var/www/a-different-word-that-whatever/ |
| 07:54.25 | empty | doug, probably an Alias line n the apache config |
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| 07:54.31 | empty | doug, you running apache2? |
| 07:54.31 | doug | I'm just wondering where to put the grandpappy .htaccess |
| 07:54.36 | nvz | empty: most everyone I know around here has an Ipod, or a MP3 enabled phone, or a Rio.. but they dont have pcs or if they do, they dont know how to get music onto their devices, they are kissing geeks ass to help them.. if I can hold a free meeting to demonstrate Debian and help them at the same time, leetlug gains new members and respect of the community. |
| 07:54.38 | doug | yup |
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| 07:54.51 | erps | Coke, If I could, I would. It's not my project, it's one of the four people that own the servers projects - I'm the admin, so well there we go. |
| 07:54.53 | Tiberio | empty, yes 111 TCP is setup portmap |
| 07:54.56 | erps | umm, huh? |
| 07:55.06 | bucky | doug, http://localhost/doc/proggie_name |
| 07:55.08 | Coke | erps: just be glad you do not have to do any programming in Java. :) |
| 07:55.10 | doug | empty: you think if i turn off overrides in apache, the .htaccess in /var/www will reign? |
| 07:55.12 | empty | Tiberio, hrm... Dunno then, I would crawl the logs on both boxes |
| 07:55.14 | umm | try the others... |
| 07:55.20 | erps | Coke, heh I have had to in the past. But yah. |
| 07:55.26 | Coke | doug: you have to allow certain options. |
| 07:55.33 | erps | umm, your confusing me. |
| 07:55.33 | nvz | bah, this game is pissing me off :P |
| 07:55.36 | wols_ | nvz: if they own a mp3 player but don't have PCs to fill them, how do they get music on them? |
| 07:55.41 | Lam_al_Adie | im trying to figure out, how to stop iptables to log to my console(s). I thougt i had configured /etc/syslog.conf to only use /var/log/files or /dev/tty8, but that doesend suffice for iptables? |
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| 07:55.56 | doug | ok well i want to live and let live except no hotlinking referrals :) |
| 07:56.11 | Coke | doug: AllowOverride |
| 07:56.13 | bisquit | Hey, again. my Woody (kernel 2.4.18) and Promise FastTrak don't mix well . . . modconf refuses to load the pdcraid-module. |
| 07:56.21 | empty | doug, no not across symlinks and stuff... run updatedb then locate progname and see if you can find its dir. The apache config for it might not be in the main /etc/apache/httpd.conf but in /etc/apache/conf.d/somepackagename |
| 07:56.22 | umm | there are many custum tool-chains in evil company |
| 07:56.22 | erps | Coke, and I'd still be on my own server if it weren't for the fact that I had a contract with my previous job that screwed me up and basically put me in a position to lose my server when I quit my job. (Namely lose my server earlier than I had planned to). |
| 07:56.45 | nvz | wols_: like I said, they kiss ass to the rich geeks that have pcs.. I've helped this girl Missy get songs on her Phone, and my frined james with his Ipod so far, neither of them have PCs or know how to use one. they have to do without or beg/pay people to help them. |
| 07:56.48 | bucky | doug, if you're running apache2 you won't see anything that isn't in the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 07:56.53 | streuner | !d-i bisquit |
| 07:56.54 | dpkg | bisquit, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:56.54 | doug | i know its dir |
| 07:56.55 | liable | !tell Lam_al_Adie about syslog console |
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| 07:57.14 | bisquit | Whee, isn't dpkg a helpy helper ;) |
| 07:57.26 | bucky | bisquit, they released sarge two weeks ago |
| 07:57.28 | liable | Lam_al_Adie: theres another that I cant remember :( |
| 07:57.33 | doug | cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 07:57.35 | doug | ls |
| 07:57.36 | bisquit | bucky, I know, I just.... <no excuses> |
| 07:57.38 | doug | oh :) |
| 07:57.40 | erps | Anyway, appears that courier-imap is installed and running.. And I know for a fact that POP is receiving mail. But apparently the imap system isn't receiving mail. Which I assume implies the MTA (exim4) isn't passing the mail correctly to imap? |
| 07:58.01 | doug | Ahh now it all makes sense! |
| 07:58.11 | bucky | doug, it's a symlink.. and apache2 is redirected in there |
| 07:58.12 | empty | erps, it's not a matter of passing mail to imap, MTA drops it off, pop or imap picks it up |
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| 07:58.33 | doug | OK so if i put a .htaccess in the root of the prog specified by the triple-0 default, will that do the trick? |
| 07:58.46 | Coke | I think dpkg encapsulates the inheretent attitude of #debian very well. Smug and sarcastic remarks mixed with outrageous verbal beatings. I like it. |
| 07:58.47 | empty | doug should do it yep |
| 07:59.05 | doug | apache's doing some sneaky sh.. stuff |
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| 07:59.07 | empty | Coke, yet still very very helpful |
| 07:59.08 | Coke | I'm going to have to quote myself on that one. |
| 07:59.09 | erps | empty, ok. Well, pop is picking it up, but imap isn't. So apparently I've missed something in making it so both can pick it up. |
| 07:59.13 | delirium | I want to uninstall the floppy driver since I don't have a floppy drive anyway. Might cut a few seconds from boot. I already searched on the internet, but there doesn't seem to be much information about it. How do I do it ? |
| 07:59.13 | doug | i wanna see my sym links with -> signs |
| 07:59.17 | bucky | doug.. yes.. in this case http://localhost/apache2-default/ |
| 07:59.27 | bucky | or what ever you make it |
| 07:59.43 | tengulre | hi,all |
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| 07:59.44 | nvz | wols_: I see music as being a big area of interest around here. Another thing I will be doing is using my long time residency and political affiliations to collect donations and old hardware from local businesses, not only for use when we setup shop somewhere, but to put low-cost Debian systems into the hands of the public |
| 07:59.47 | empty | erps, when you look at it that way it is clear that imap is the problem though :) I'm not just pedantic for the sake of it(well this time) |
| 07:59.51 | bucky | doug, i.e. /var/www/apache2-default |
| 07:59.52 | janchao | hello,all |
| 08:00.02 | liable | !tell Lam_al_Adie about printk console |
| 08:00.05 | tengulre | can u open this web site http://www.megamail.com.cn:8888/ |
| 08:00.16 | empty | nvz, outreach to libraries and schools- their IT budgets are very low |
| 08:00.18 | doug | bucky: Why must i put the index in apache2-default and people see it reload to that directory when other things come up on /var/www underneath apache2-default ... ahh this is probably in apache2 config, simple shit, nevermind |
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| 08:00.25 | janchao | how to change the default web floder? |
| 08:00.25 | nvz | empty: hah, yeah right |
| 08:00.52 | wols_ | erps: courier uses the same storage for pop3 and imap. have you created the maildirs for users? |
| 08:00.54 | doug | tell me that's an apache2 thing and not debian |
| 08:00.55 | bucky | doug, it's just an example.. but apache2 comes with directory browsing turned off by default |
| 08:00.57 | nvz | empty: school district can kiss my ass :P they definatly have no low IT-budget |
| 08:01.00 | Guerin | janchao: edit apache2 config file |
| 08:01.07 | Lam_al_Adie | liable: well, i disabled #*.emerg * and those |/dev/xconsole -style entries from the default syslog.conf, but that didn't help... |
| 08:01.18 | Guerin | janchao: or apache1 config file |
| 08:01.18 | doug | i've learned so much tonight |
| 08:01.25 | bucky | doug, so you have to specify all that in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 08:01.27 | doug | .. this morning |
| 08:01.36 | empty | nvz if they have a high bidget maybe they'd be interested in a guest prof teaching some linux? O_o |
| 08:01.36 | nvz | empty: they have been recieving grant money for years now ,they got a Digital School grant, they have wireless, laptops in every students hand.. |
| 08:01.41 | erps | empty, yah.. well, courier-pop and courier-imap are *gasp* still using their default configuration files. I'm using exim4 and set my maildir to maildir_home so ~user/Maildir is where the mail directories are and they are created for all users. |
| 08:01.44 | janchao | I use apache2 on debian, Guerin |
| 08:01.48 | Guerin | janchao: edit apache2 config file |
| 08:01.55 | bucky | doug, which is really /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 08:01.57 | liable | Lam_al_Adie: I had the prob a while ago, but stupid me didnt write down what actually fixed it. sorry |
| 08:01.59 | erps | oh, I wonder.. |
| 08:02.01 | tengulre | janchao, set VirtualHost in apache config file |
| 08:02.11 | Guerin | tengulre: that's not ahwt he asked for. |
| 08:02.12 | nvz | empty: every table at the library has an electrical outlet and ethernet jacks |
| 08:02.13 | empty | erps, so maybe you need to play with exims config and tell it to use maildirs |
| 08:02.13 | tengulre | general is httpd.conf |
| 08:02.19 | doug | well that wont be that big a bitch it's only one i need to deal with |
| 08:02.20 | bucky | doug, this gives you an upgrade path while keeping your config |
| 08:02.33 | Coke | doug: I see a lot of text from you, but I don't understand your problem. Can you give me a simplified version of your problem? |
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| 08:02.39 | erps | empty, already done that. |
| 08:02.41 | doug | .. yeah i see that buck |
| 08:02.45 | doug | makes some sense |
| 08:02.46 | wols_ | erps: what does syslog say if you try to connect to imap? |
| 08:03.16 | doug | Coke: as far as i can tell now, these fellers schooled me good and i'm fine |
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| 08:03.24 | nvz | I do way more than I am comfortable with for the school district already. if I wanted to help them out, I would make a ton of money and not pay taxes :P |
| 08:03.34 | doug | Jesus i need eyedrops |
| 08:03.50 | bucky | doug, i suggest apt-get ing apache2-doc just to have it available |
| 08:03.54 | Coke | doug: good. good. I feel anger inside you, use it. Use it. Do not fear the dark side. |
| 08:04.00 | Lam_al_Adie | liable: yes, i had it fixed some time ago, before my computer broke and i decided to totally reinstall... didn't backup my /etc to cd, so when after reinstallation my harddisk blew up, i had to reconfigure as well :-( |
| 08:04.01 | nvz | bah this game is annoying me in was I cant comprehend right now |
| 08:04.07 | empty | Does Jesus deliver them? Jesus, I need beer! |
| 08:04.08 | janchao | But /etc/apache/httpd.conf is very simple.... |
| 08:04.24 | Coke | I don't understand why they had to split up the Apache2 configuration. |
| 08:04.27 | erps | wols_ shows successful connection, login, and disconnect. |
| 08:04.31 | bucky | janchao, sarge comes with /etc/apache2/apache.conf |
| 08:04.33 | janchao | is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is very simple.... |
| 08:04.39 | c0al | has any one used hard drives like these in linux? http://www.seagate.com/products/retail/external/usb |
| 08:04.50 | bucky | and other little files.. the debian way |
| 08:04.51 | empty | !anyone use |
| 08:04.51 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 08:05.00 | c0al | :( |
| 08:05.01 | nvz | though I have given thought many times to getting them into linux and perhaps teaching a class |
| 08:05.13 | empty | c0al, USB storage devices work fine |
| 08:05.15 | nvz | I just dont see it happening, and even if it did, working out to my benefit |
| 08:05.31 | doug | what do you guys do when you take a lot of crank and go crazy configging stuff on debian (from sound to rerwriteengines) and then your eyes really start hurting, you look in the mirror it looks like you smoked weird pot because the redness is confined to the areas at which point blood vessles burst ... Turn down brightness? contrast? use crt? |
| 08:05.31 | c0al | empty, okay, thanks. i'm probly gonna pick one of those up today |
| 08:05.43 | empty | nvz, community college- young coeds get hot for GNU |
| 08:05.52 | nvz | they have nothing I want, and they are already milking me and the rest of the community enough |
| 08:06.02 | empty | nvz, free as in love baby LOL |
| 08:06.02 | Coke | doug: shades, man, shades. |
| 08:06.11 | Coke | love is free? |
| 08:06.12 | doug | no shit? |
| 08:06.13 | bucky | nvz, i know.. a reality show where yuppies have to learn linux to win automobiles and things and money |
| 08:06.16 | doug | shades. |
| 08:06.20 | delirium | I want to uninstall the floppy driver since I don't have a floppy drive anyway. Might cut a few seconds from boot. I already searched on the internet, but there doesn't seem to be much information about it. How do I do it ? |
| 08:06.24 | Coke | yep, I sometimes wear them at work. |
| 08:06.29 | doug | man that is so simple, that solution |
| 08:06.33 | empty | Coke, it's like crack, the first few hits are free until you are hooked |
| 08:06.36 | doug | yet i didn't see it |
| 08:06.53 | Coke | empty: damn hoochies |
| 08:07.04 | Lam_al_Adie | delirium: new kernel? |
| 08:07.17 | doug | i'm gonna go to the korean grocery joint, get some eyedrops and go get myself some cheap sunglasses |
| 08:07.25 | doug | oh yeah |
| 08:07.26 | erps | wols_, nevermind fixed that, imap is working. |
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| 08:07.33 | empty | doug, grab me a puppy please |
| 08:07.36 | Coke | delirium: more like it will cut out a few hundreds of a second. |
| 08:07.38 | erps | wols_, now the only thing that isn't working is on the server, executing mail or mailx, doesn't show anything. |
| 08:07.39 | Lam_al_Adie | delirium: and disable hotplug from searching floppies... |
| 08:08.10 | doug | i'll try empty but they keep that kinda stuff quiet with all the fuzz around... the heat is on the dogs |
| 08:08.12 | doug | who indicentally may be in heat |
| 08:08.15 | doug | but that's neither here nor there |
| 08:08.16 | Lam_al_Adie | Coke: depends on the machine... a delirium might take it's time |
| 08:08.16 | nvz | bucky: pfft, I live within 5 miles of a Porche dealership, a BMW Dealership, a bentley dealership, a rolls royce dealership... these people are filthy rich money and cars to them is hardly even interesting. |
| 08:08.16 | QUACH-214 | hallo, how can i config debian so root can login via SSH directly |
| 08:08.23 | empty | doug LMAO |
| 08:08.35 | bucky | nvs free boob jobs? |
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| 08:08.46 | empty | QUACH-214, think it comes out of the box like that, but if not it is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 08:08.55 | Coke | Lam_al_Adie: if loading floppy drivers takes > 0.1 seconds the hw is really old, stupid and/or broken. |
| 08:08.58 | bucky | botox nigt |
| 08:09.01 | delirium | Lam_al_Adie : I have kernel 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 08:09.10 | nakeee | now sarge is out what name do I need to put in the sources to get testing? |
| 08:09.12 | tzafrir | QUACH-214, this is the default of Debian |
| 08:09.19 | nvz | nakeee: testing |
| 08:09.19 | empty | QUACH-214, be aware if the box is connected to the net root brute-force attacks are VERY common so use a very secure password |
| 08:09.23 | nvz | nakeee: or etch |
| 08:09.26 | Lam_al_Adie | delirium: looks like your hardware isn't that old :-) |
| 08:09.32 | nakeee | etch?? |
| 08:09.35 | delirium | Lam_al_Adie : do you think it is usefull to uninstall it ? |
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| 08:09.38 | nakeee | what kind of name is that?:) |
| 08:09.38 | nvz | etch!! |
| 08:09.53 | delirium | Lam_al_Adie : if it is only a matter of hundreds of seconds |
| 08:09.53 | tzafrir | What kind of name is potato? |
| 08:09.55 | nvz | nakeee: its a toy story name, like every other name |
| 08:09.59 | bucky | nakeee, a toy story name like the rest of the names |
| 08:10.05 | QUACH-214 | yes but i remember there is a file i config for root to login direct |
| 08:10.12 | Coke | QUACH-214: just make sure you don't allow root logins outside of the LAN. enabling root logins via the Internet is a major security risc. |
| 08:10.21 | nvz | nakeee: like bo, rex, buzz, hamm, slink, potato, woody, sarge, and sid, they are all toy story names |
| 08:10.36 | empty | !toy story |
| 08:10.36 | dpkg | [toy story] The release names for the Debian distribution are named after characters from "Toy Story", the computer-animated movie. buzz == 1.1, rex == 1.2, bo == 1.3, hamm == 2.0, slink == 2.1, potato == 2.2, woody == 3.0, sarge == ?.?, or ask me about "release history", or <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>, or sid used to be the version used for newly-ported arch'es, but now it's unstable |
| 08:10.37 | Coke | QUACH-214: man sshd_config |
| 08:10.43 | bucky | well i guess they could've called it Hoary Hedge Banger |
| 08:10.50 | REds | lol |
| 08:11.02 | Coke | What, they haven't updated the factoid. |
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| 08:11.29 | oldtq | asda |
| 08:11.42 | Lam_al_Adie | delirium: well, it's only fractions of a second (for each boot). rebuilding a kernel is about 30 Minutes (if you know what youre looking for...). so how often will you have to boot, before your gain will exeed your work? |
| 08:11.59 | bucky | REds, are you really a redskin? |
| 08:12.02 | holy_cow | hey, can reiser do files larger than 2 gigs? |
| 08:12.06 | delirium | Lam_al_Adie : thx, I leave it like it is then |
| 08:12.09 | erps | thanks for hte help, just fixed imap, that was dumb of me. |
| 08:12.10 | oldtq | hi |
| 08:12.11 | REds | bucky, yes i am |
| 08:12.11 | tzafrir | How do you update factoids: is it: dpkg, toy story:s/sarge= ?.?/whatever/ ? |
| 08:12.26 | nvz | dpkg, toy story =~ s/?.?,/3.1, etch == ?.?,/ |
| 08:12.26 | dpkg | nvz: OK |
| 08:12.39 | bucky | REds, here they call me a billy ghana |
| 08:12.41 | empty | delirium, you'd get a better return on your time investment giving ext3 one more boot before a mandatory fsck :) |
| 08:12.43 | Coke | nvz: nicely done |
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| 08:13.03 | Lam_al_Adie | empty: :-) |
| 08:13.15 | nakeee | toy story is that old? |
| 08:13.19 | nakeee | hmm.. |
| 08:13.44 | oldtq | what _ |
| 08:13.45 | oldtq | _? |
| 08:13.48 | nakeee | after I changed the sources I do dist-upgrade right? |
| 08:13.50 | nvz | thats one way to look at it |
| 08:13.56 | doug | Hey .. i'm looking at 000-default, see a normal array of stuff, but not my /gallery |
| 08:14.00 | nvz | another would be "Debian is that young?" |
| 08:14.00 | Lam_al_Adie | im trying to figure out, how to stop iptables to log to my console(s). I thougt i had configured /etc/syslog.conf to only use /var/log/files or /dev/tty8, but that doesn't suffice for iptables? |
| 08:14.02 | oldtq | ý am |
| 08:14.28 | QUACH-214 | does any one have idea that i can use SSH to login as rootm but when i use cuteFPT to login as root there is error No further authentication methods available. |
| 08:14.34 | empty | nakeee, apt-get update then dist-upgrade |
| 08:14.45 | janchao | thanks for Guerin, tengulre and bucky :) |
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| 08:15.00 | empty | Lam_al_Adie, remove the LOG targets from it |
| 08:15.15 | Lam_al_Adie | great idea! thanks! |
| 08:15.30 | nvz | oldtq: do not /msg me. I am not a bot. You should not /msg people without permission. |
| 08:15.38 | Lam_al_Adie | get real, i want it to log, but not to my console! |
| 08:15.55 | nvz | oldtq: do you speak english? are you classified as human? do you need help with something? |
| 08:16.00 | doug | QUACH-214: they're completely separate daemons |
| 08:16.06 | pirre | Lam_al_Adie: there is a way to tell syslog not to log to console, but I don't remember it just now :( |
| 08:16.08 | oldtq | no |
| 08:16.15 | oldtq | nvz |
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| 08:16.18 | oldtq | ý am turkýsh |
| 08:16.20 | doug | One's relatively secure, .. the other one is ftp |
| 08:16.25 | empty | Lam_al_Adie, well then figure out what facility and priority it's logging to and fix your config |
| 08:16.32 | nakeee | empty: thanks |
| 08:16.34 | Luqq | Hey |
| 08:16.37 | Lam_al_Adie | pirre: I know there is :-( |
| 08:16.42 | empty | nakeee, no problem |
| 08:16.43 | doug | quach which ftpd you running |
| 08:16.46 | nvz | oldtq: trke yardm iin #debian.tr |
| 08:16.50 | bucky | doug, cp /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to my-gallery ; edit it ; and link to it from /etc/apache2/sites-enable |
| 08:16.54 | oldtq | Ok ~ |
| 08:16.59 | nvz | oldtq: we speak english in #debian. |
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| 08:17.04 | doug | bucky: ok |
| 08:17.06 | Luqq | How come i cant upgrade no more packages since sarge stable was released? |
| 08:17.11 | bucky | doug, that's the idea |
| 08:17.14 | Luqq | i have both stable as sarge in my sources.list |
| 08:17.21 | janchao | On Sarge, the apache2 config file to cut multi files.... |
| 08:17.36 | Luqq | it just hits the listfiles, it doesnt download anymore |
| 08:17.41 | doug | this gallery thing is pretty complex with the dynamic content and all that jazz.. is this move safe? |
| 08:17.43 | bucky | janchao, that |
| 08:17.47 | doug | (one way to find out) |
| 08:17.57 | bucky | janchao, that way you don't have to edit apache2.conf |
| 08:18.00 | nakeee | there is no non-US dir for etch? |
| 08:18.05 | bucky | unless you just want to |
| 08:18.08 | empty | !non-us |
| 08:18.08 | dpkg | hmm... non-us is where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see ... |
| 08:18.22 | nvz | nakeee: there is no non-US at all. there hasnt been anything non-us in a long time |
| 08:18.22 | Lam_al_Adie | Luqq: you can'T upgrade or you can't install any more? |
| 08:18.33 | bucky | REds, is fluro.net yours ? |
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| 08:18.47 | Luqq | upgrade |
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| 08:19.08 | Luqq | 2 weeks ago, every day there were like 10 packages to be updated, now it doesnt even download new lists |
| 08:19.16 | Luqq | says just "hit blabla" when i apt-get update |
| 08:19.32 | empty | Luqq, that means its working and there aren't patches yet |
| 08:19.34 | Luqq | for about a week |
| 08:19.36 | nvz | I am going back to sleep for an hour or two. get started on whatever it is I have to do after I make some breakfast. |
| 08:19.51 | bucky | Luqq, no more development for sarge.. just updates |
| 08:19.54 | empty | Luqq, stable means stable, they only patch for security or major bugs |
| 08:20.01 | Lam_al_Adie | Luqq: 2 week ago might still have been testing... |
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| 08:20.20 | Luqq | ah in that way..so if i want updates i should update to sid? |
| 08:20.33 | empty | Luqq, not sid, no- etch |
| 08:20.43 | REds | bucky, ye |
| 08:20.44 | Luqq | yes that was it hehe |
| 08:20.59 | janchao | bucky, but redhat only have only one config file for apache2. why debian ? |
| 08:21.00 | empty | Luqq, but bear in mind a release is more broken towards the beginning of its life in testing than towards the end |
| 08:21.04 | doug | ok let me get this right bucky.. i cp [-R, right?] /etc.../default to what, the directory i believe to contain the php files of the gallery program or make a directory called my-gallery , do some picoing then sym it? |
| 08:21.06 | bucky | REds, nice |
| 08:21.11 | nvz | I got a list of all the LUGs in the state, going to fill in the blanks, of who, what, where, when, and why.. then plot a course of action for leetlug. most of the uni lugs around here are no more. PSU still has one, though IIRC from looking at their site yesturday they arent doing much. CMU's lug seems to have dissapeared.. nearest one seems to be WPLUG |
| 08:21.18 | Luqq | yes ill think ill stay with sarge.. |
| 08:21.21 | bucky | REds, what part of the world are you in? |
| 08:21.29 | empty | janchao, makes it much cleaner for apt to instal web packages and not hose your other apache configs |
| 08:21.33 | Luqq | but i never did apt-get dist-upgrade, cause it didnt do anything.. |
| 08:21.33 | Lam_al_Adie | Luqq: if you want stable, you want sarge, otherwise you take testing, unstable or one of the official names like etch |
| 08:21.33 | REds | bucky, ye au |
| 08:21.39 | doug | or the image files? (different location, images in /var/www/something, rest in /usr/share/gallery |
| 08:22.03 | bucky | janchao, so you can upgrade but keep your config |
| 08:22.14 | empty | doug, use cp -a |
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| 08:22.18 | Lam_al_Adie | Luqq: no wonder, if you already started with sarge. |
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| 08:22.37 | empty | doug, -R recurses, -a recurses and maintains permissions etc |
| 08:22.38 | Luqq | no okay, thought this unstable -> stable was some huge upgrade or something ^^ |
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| 08:22.56 | janchao | thanks, debian is good way.... |
| 08:22.57 | bucky | doug, if you want to just change the redirect to your server root |
| 08:23.08 | bucky | that's as simple as it gets |
| 08:23.08 | empty | Luqq, it is a huge upgrade for woody ;) |
| 08:23.15 | Lam_al_Adie | lobz: aptitude dist-upgrade only does something, if you switch from woody to sarge, or if you add a new repository such as agnula... |
| 08:23.21 | Araldit | Do anyone know if a new Testing has been announced, like sarge before it were released. I like the new packages. |
| 08:23.32 | doug | bucky all i want to do is stop these fucking hotlinkers stealing my bandwidth by dropping some shit in a .htaccess |
| 08:23.44 | nvz | Araldit: announced? |
| 08:23.46 | Lam_al_Adie | lobz: sorry, i meant Luqq |
| 08:23.53 | nvz | Araldit: testing is etch, you can upgrade anytime you like |
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| 08:24.18 | doug | this 000 file looked exactly like a big breakthrough but for some reason that sneaky ass program aint there.. so i'll just put it everywhere! |
| 08:24.39 | doug | or switch to installing deb on the other box |
| 08:24.46 | Araldit | nvz: OK, so in my apt sources I just change to testing instead of sarge, do a dist-upgrade and thats it. |
| 08:25.25 | Luqq | lol |
| 08:25.34 | Luqq | no thanks for the clearing up :) |
| 08:25.49 | empty | doug- porn webmasters have that one down pat: http://adultchamber.com/learning/htaccess.htm |
| 08:26.22 | sema4 | how do I find out if a process is running with realtime scheduling? |
| 08:26.24 | nakeee | huh?etch still has xfree 4.3? |
| 08:26.39 | nvz | Araldit: well testing or etch, and you have to apt-get update before you can dist-upgrade |
| 08:26.40 | doug | empty: i think i have the htaccess lines just right, just cannot find the right goddamn htaccess, OR i found it a long time ago and the lines are wrong even though i got them from lots of googling and ircing |
| 08:26.52 | empty | Araldit, you need to do an update first to get the new [ackage lists, then dist-upgrade, then that's it(if you're lucky) |
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| 08:26.58 | nakeee | waiting for 7.0? |
| 08:27.12 | nvz | Araldit: also install apt-listbugs before you do anything |
| 08:27.29 | Araldit | nvz: Thx. |
| 08:27.32 | nvz | Araldit: that way it will inform you ahead of time of known issues before it actually installs any new packages |
| 08:27.34 | empty | doug, change the one you think is right to Order Deny,Allow<cr>Deny from all then see if you can still get in |
| 08:27.37 | doug | ok this site looks good empty |
| 08:28.12 | Morpheus8 | Does anyone have any updates from the moving of X.org into debian? |
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| 08:29.12 | nvz | Araldit: apt-listbugs is merely a guide, its not to be relied upon to be accurate, or to save you from disaster, you should know how to work the BTS, read bug reports and tell if they are relevant to you.. and you should also know how to work out package management issues. otherwise you probably shouldnt be upgrading to testing |
| 08:29.22 | doug | i'm doing the switcharoos |
| 08:29.58 | voltagex | just installed sarge - problem, apt is resolving everything to 1.0.0.0 yet ping is resolving properly and here I am on IRC... wtf? |
| 08:30.01 | empty | !tell Morpheus8 about xorg |
| 08:30.16 | Araldit | nvz: Yeah, I will look into it. apt-listbugs has been installed.. So upgrading is one step closer |
| 08:30.22 | nakeee | !tell nakeee about xorg |
| 08:30.35 | Araldit | nvz: Thx, it was etch I was looking for |
| 08:30.40 | nvz | Araldit: if apt-listbugs shows a bug you think sounds serious, you should know how to lookup the bug number, read the bug and see if it applies to your arch and the versions of the package you are installing, and how to hold the package or fix the problems. You should also know how to file bugs when they come up, as if you are using testing, you are a debian tester. |
| 08:30.43 | empty | nakeee, if you are doing it yourself you can just /msg dpkg xorg |
| 08:30.46 | bucky | REds, are you a fresno indian |
| 08:30.46 | voltagex | help? |
| 08:30.52 | nakeee | oh:) |
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| 08:31.30 | Morpheus8 | thanks empty :) |
| 08:31.36 | doug | empty looks like i might have rm'ed it so i'll make them with the line to Order Deny,Allow(line break? or <cr>?) Deny from all |
| 08:31.40 | empty | Morpheus8, no prob :) |
| 08:31.55 | Araldit | nvz: Well I dont know, but this is the only way to learn. I have been using Sarge for 1½ year, so I dont thing it could be that big a deal. |
| 08:32.04 | bucky | voltagex, anything look funny in ifconfig ? |
| 08:32.12 | empty | doug, a newline :) Try that and if it breaks the site you at least know you have the right file |
| 08:32.37 | nakeee | has |
| 08:32.50 | doug | "deny from all" would do the trick? |
| 08:32.55 | nvz | Araldit: well sarge has been half frozen for nearly a year, and people have been working for 3 years to stablize it.. Etch is fresh 10day or so old code anything could happen |
| 08:32.57 | liable | Lam_al_Adie: you've got me wondering what I did know. Whats your klogd init script have the -c set as. mine is 2 |
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| 08:33.09 | doug | i see taht in some admin config of another program with a .htaccess |
| 08:33.21 | doug | nm i'll do what you said |
| 08:33.41 | nvz | Araldit: you are right about the learning part, but just know what testing is, and realize you are becomming a debian tester. dont become a debian whiner, that comes in here bitching because the stuff doesnt work right |
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| 08:33.57 | doug | any chmodding needed? probably not |
| 08:34.09 | tweak | hi all, I have a process (game server) that goes to sleep I think randomly. Its debian running on a windows server that has virtual server installed. |
| 08:34.22 | Lam_al_Adie | liable: :-) i just stumbled about klogd as well... just a second, please. |
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| 08:34.42 | Zitter | someone knows why blootbot pkg is not in stable? |
| 08:34.50 | nvz | Araldit: I was just trying to point out some tools that may help you avoid disasters and make it a better learning and testing experience |
| 08:35.02 | nvz | !info blootbot stable |
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| 08:35.12 | nvz | imagine that |
| 08:35.16 | Araldit | nvz: Yeah, Im currently reading about the buglist |
| 08:35.37 | nvz | Zitter: must have been renamed or removed.. I'm looking into it :P |
| 08:35.39 | tweak | how can I tell if a process is asleept? |
| 08:35.44 | tweak | asleep |
| 08:35.48 | bucky | top |
| 08:35.55 | Zitter | nvz, ok thanks |
| 08:36.02 | nakeee | tweak: ps |
| 08:36.07 | tweak | yeah it says a few processes sleeping but it doesnt say what ones |
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| 08:36.20 | empty | doug, no chmodding needed if user www-data can read it (eg 644 perms are fine) that won't solve your problem but it will tell you if you have the right place to drop your custom .htaccess |
| 08:36.42 | tweak | hmm ok the game server isnt sleeping. |
| 08:36.46 | tweak | Weird |
| 08:37.11 | Lam_al_Adie | liable: just make (in /etc/init.d/klogd) the line binpath read 'binpath="/sbin/klogd -c 5"'? |
| 08:37.16 | doug | Nothing at least on regular doc root files.. empty, could that be because i'm coming from a 192.168? |
| 08:37.26 | tweak | People can play on the game server and stuff, but when we ping that port sometimes it just dies and doesnt wake up. The people are fine playing on it and such. Any ideas? |
| 08:37.49 | doug | ah let me check the grp/mod |
| 08:37.49 | tweak | hmm maybe I will try to nice it. How do I give it more priority? |
| 08:37.50 | Lam_al_Adie | won't that stop boot-messages from appearing? |
| 08:38.06 | liable | Lam_al_Adie: no, down at the start-stop deamon bit, the start line |
| 08:38.52 | nvz | Zitter: I dont know it must have been pulled from sarge. its in woody, etch and sid. I havent found the exact reason why it was pulled yet |
| 08:39.07 | Zitter | eh |
| 08:39.11 | tweak | toall, how do I start something with greater priority with nice? |
| 08:39.11 | Zitter | it's very strange |
| 08:39.18 | liable | Lam_al_Adie: start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $binpath -- $KLOGD -c 2 |
| 08:39.34 | Zitter | because if I use blootbot from woody or sid it doesn't start |
| 08:39.43 | doug | oh maybe i need to restart :) |
| 08:39.47 | nvz | Zitter: yeah seems strange to me. it must have been somehow holding up the release and got pulled. could have been a perl related issue |
| 08:39.48 | Lam_al_Adie | liable: yes, looks reasonnable. thank you! |
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| 08:40.17 | nvz | !maint blootbot |
| 08:40.21 | dpkg | blootbot: Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org> |
| 08:40.30 | liable | Lam_al_Adie: dont thank me yet :P |
| 08:40.37 | nvz | Zitter: I'd ask that guy ^^ |
| 08:40.56 | Zitter | nvz, ok thanks :) |
| 08:41.14 | nvz | Zitter: maybe xk or timriker would know more, but doesnt seem anyone in here right now knows much more than us |
| 08:41.19 | tweak | ... |
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| 08:42.19 | nvz | well I am going to catch a few more Z's before daylight.. that way when I wake up in an hour or two and make breakfast I will be on a full charge and ready to git-r-done :P |
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| 08:43.01 | bucky | nvz, maybe Larry the cable guy could be the guest speaker at LeetLUG |
| 08:43.07 | teRry | hay |
| 08:43.10 | nvz | I already cleaned up and shaved and all that shit, so I'll be ready to roll this morning |
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| 08:43.23 | teRry | sssttt... |
| 08:43.40 | liable | teRry: got a leak? |
| 08:43.53 | nvz | bucky: he only wishes he could be that cool. I'll have that mofo begging to get a spot in my busy schedule one day |
| 08:43.53 | empty | nvz, night bro |
| 08:43.56 | teRry | yrs.. |
| 08:44.14 | empty | nvz, careful you sound like stallman |
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| 08:44.22 | nvz | bucky: thats after I see what kind of nothing the other LUGs in the area are up to |
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| 08:44.33 | nvz | empty: I'm a stallman fan (: |
| 08:44.49 | empty | nvz, Me too just not his ego |
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| 08:44.50 | cashew | what does "high memory support" in the sarge install guide refer to? >4 gigs ram? |
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| 08:45.04 | empty | nvz, much like vixie in my book |
| 08:45.10 | nvz | empty: hey, how do you think we git-r-done |
| 08:45.16 | teRry | fuck all off you |
| 08:45.20 | tweak | could someone show me an example using NICE? |
| 08:45.21 | empty | nvz, heh |
| 08:45.22 | liable | cashew: 2 I think (may be wrong) |
| 08:45.22 | nvz | egotistical motivation |
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| 08:45.42 | cashew | liable: stable doesn't support big ram then? |
| 08:45.49 | empty | tweak: nice -15 cat foo |
| 08:46.13 | empty | tweak, that would give foo higher priority than most anything else on the system |
| 08:46.18 | bucky | cashew, install kernel don't .... upgrade your kernel |
| 08:46.27 | tweak | empty with screen would I do it like this? screen -dmS screenname nice -15 ./hlds_run blah blah |
| 08:46.32 | cashew | bucky: using apt? |
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| 08:46.58 | empty | tweak, I sadly do not use screen |
| 08:47.12 | tweak | oh wow what do you use? |
| 08:47.12 | liable | cashew: its between 1-4, then 4-6, looking at my docs, but thats for 2.6.11 |
| 08:47.16 | bucky | cashew, apt-cache search kernel-image ; pick one that matches your cpu ; apt-get install kernel-image-? |
| 08:47.30 | Lam_al_Adie | cashew: or aptitude. apt-get install aptitude |
| 08:47.30 | nakeee | any idea why while I have both sarge and etch in my sources it prefer to take all kde stuff from sarge? |
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| 08:47.41 | empty | tweak, bash :P |
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| 08:48.07 | tweak | emptu so if it registers as 8 in top when I did nice -8 thats good? |
| 08:48.23 | empty | tweak, long procs I expect to leave untended I run | mail -s "someproc finished" empty |
| 08:48.30 | empty | with & at the end |
| 08:48.39 | nakeee | it actually downloads only few things from etch |
| 08:49.06 | empty | nakeee, maybe your install does not have a lot of the hot movers currently |
| 08:49.12 | cashew | liable, bucky, Lam_al_Adie: so as long as I use a 2.6 kernel-image, I can use big ram then? |
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| 08:49.27 | bucky | cashew define big |
| 08:49.41 | Lam_al_Adie | cashew: do you _have_ big ram? |
| 08:49.45 | liable | cashew: how big? |
| 08:49.54 | nakeee | empty: you mean that I have sarge first in my sources and since those packages are the same version in sarge and etch it choses to download them from sarge? |
| 08:49.55 | cashew | 8 gigs |
| 08:49.55 | bucky | my ram is bigger :P |
| 08:50.00 | empty | cashew, stock kernel 2.4 and 2.6 support 4g.... oh |
| 08:50.25 | Lam_al_Adie | bucky: how do you get more than 8 Gig on a floppy? |
| 08:50.42 | tzafrir | The default debian kernel supports 4GB or 1GB? |
| 08:50.46 | bucky | it just sounded like a contest |
| 08:51.03 | empty | nakeee, if you want etch you should toss the sarge lines |
| 08:51.31 | Lam_al_Adie | cashew: with 8 Gigs i gues I would use big ram. |
| 08:51.36 | liable | cashew: maybe you want latest kernel, looking *again* :) at the docs, there support for more than 4G, doesnt say top end though. |
| 08:51.40 | empty | Lam_al_Adie, use a 5 1/4" and slip a bluray in it :P |
| 08:51.49 | doug | empty: I have no idea what's going on.. Tried everything.. put a .htaccess like what we said in /var/www, made a file in that dir, loads right up even remotely .. did the same in ./apache2-default |
| 08:51.50 | liable | cashew: for 2.6.1 |
| 08:51.53 | liable | 11 |
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| 08:51.57 | empty | cashew, think you have to recompile |
| 08:52.06 | doug | apache2 man ... it's laughing at me |
| 08:52.16 | Lam_al_Adie | empty: yeah or make ln -s /dev/null /dev/floppy |
| 08:52.26 | empty | doug, maybe it is that you are not allowing auth overrides then? |
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| 08:52.45 | doug | empty ok i'll check the 000 ffile |
| 08:52.56 | empty | doug may I msg you? |
| 08:53.04 | doug | of course |
| 08:53.28 | cashew | empty: damn, no image. i was hoping to stick to stable with stable only packages for this server :/ |
| 08:54.00 | empty | cashew, make a kernel using the kernel-source-2.6.8 package and make-kpkg etc then |
| 08:55.42 | empty | cashew, not much work really if you don't want it to be, copy /boot/config-2.6.8-2whateveryouhavenow to the .config in the source (/usr/src/whatever) then edit the .config to change the line |
| 08:56.44 | nakeee | empty: why?doesn't it take the newest package? |
| 08:56.51 | empty | cashew, change # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set to be uncommented and set to =y |
| 08:57.12 | empty | nakeee, no clue |
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| 08:57.57 | cashew | empty: thanks |
| 08:58.28 | cashew | empty: although I am quite suprised this isn't stock :/ |
| 08:58.28 | nakeee | is etch compiled with gcc 4.0? |
| 08:58.39 | empty | cashew, >4G ram is uncommon |
| 08:58.57 | tarzeau | at tarzeau >4G disk is uncommon |
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| 08:59.07 | caphuso | nakeee: no. etch is just like sarge, with only a very few very minor differences |
| 08:59.15 | cashew | empty: I suppose so now, but it depends how long until etch becomes stable. |
| 08:59.16 | liable | cashew: prolly better to use make menuconfig, than hand edit the file. |
| 08:59.30 | empty | tarzeau, sadly >4G Maildir is common in ~empty :( |
| 08:59.38 | ravn | anyone can help me: abcde can not read from my new NEC ND3500 and also I cannot mount CD/DVD's from it. Burning and reading with kIIIB however is n.p. What might be wring?? When using abcde I get "cd-discid: /dev/cdrom2: CDROMREADTOCHDR: Invalid argument". When trying mount I get "No Media". |
| 08:59.57 | tarzeau | ravn: audio cd? |
| 09:00.21 | ravn | tarzeau: with abcde yes |
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| 09:01.02 | queuetue | Hello. I am seeking unmanaged hosting company recommendations. |
| 09:01.20 | queuetue | Does anyone have one? |
| 09:01.34 | bluefox83 | i'm not sure i understand what you mean O.o |
| 09:01.37 | tarzeau | ravn: you can't mount audio cds |
| 09:01.49 | tarzeau | queuetue: country? |
| 09:01.57 | queuetue | tarzeau, USA |
| 09:02.26 | ravn | tarzeau: I know that, that's why I use abcde to rip them. But I cannot mount data CD's either. |
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| 09:02.38 | bluefox83 | O.o |
| 09:02.41 | tarzeau | queuetue: with or without Canada? |
| 09:02.43 | bluefox83 | that sounds like a bit of a problem.. |
| 09:03.04 | queuetue | tarzeau, With. |
| 09:03.07 | cashew | thanks for all your help! |
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| 09:11.19 | chealer | I think it's one year since I started using Debian now. what should I do? |
| 09:11.39 | Casanova | hello. i am new to debian. I am sarge installed right now. i did apt-get gcc4.0 but instead of upgrading gcc3.5 it has installed gcc4.0 also. how can i make gcc4.0 as the default compiler |
| 09:11.39 | wols_ | continue to use it? |
| 09:11.45 | chealer | and don't tell me to make a party...that's obvious |
| 09:12.07 | chealer | wols_: sure, but do I get a little present? can I upgrade to sid? |
| 09:12.54 | wols_ | don't ask us. you have to ask sid if he allows it |
| 09:13.24 | QUACH-214 | i install ProFTP in my server, anyone know how to restart it? |
| 09:13.26 | chealer | but he's so rude |
| 09:13.36 | wols_ | Casanova: you are playing with fire. there is no gcc4 in sarge |
| 09:13.47 | wols_ | QUACH-214: /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
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| 09:13.48 | postel | Casanova: softlink /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-the_version_you_want |
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| 09:14.05 | Casanova | wols_, i put in the the testing repository in the sources.list file |
| 09:14.35 | QUACH-214 | -bash: /etc/init.d/proftpd: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden |
| 09:14.46 | QUACH-214 | cant find that find wols |
| 09:14.49 | wols_ | Casanova: testing is etch. sarge is debian stable |
| 09:15.04 | Casanova | wols_, which is most bleeding edge? sid or etch? |
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| 09:15.13 | nakeee | sid |
| 09:15.14 | wols_ | sid |
| 09:15.17 | sep | sid |
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| 09:15.33 | Casanova | wols_, i want to dist-upgrade to sid.. how do i go abt it? |
| 09:15.39 | denis_ | how do i go about creating the files in /dev? i think something has gone wrong with my debootstrap installation? |
| 09:15.51 | sep | if you have to ask you arent ready to run sid |
| 09:15.53 | wols_ | QUACH-214: any file beginning with prof* in /etc/init.d/ ? |
| 09:16.03 | denis_ | sep: so true |
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| 09:16.24 | QUACH-214 | no |
| 09:16.25 | Casanova | hmmmm |
| 09:16.28 | postel | denis_: man mkdev |
| 09:16.36 | Casanova | sep, i am using debian for the first time |
| 09:16.40 | QUACH-214 | how can i find it in my server? which command? |
| 09:16.41 | nakeee | I knew it!:) |
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| 09:16.51 | nakeee | they are going to make etch move to gcc 4.0 |
| 09:16.53 | denis_ | postel: don't you mean mknod? |
| 09:17.00 | postel | i got it aliased |
| 09:17.11 | wols_ | QUACH-214: are you sure you have it installed? |
| 09:17.12 | postel | ma bad |
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| 09:17.37 | denis_ | i have almost no files in /dev, no hd* files, i just did a standard debootstrap setup |
| 09:17.41 | Casanova | sep, wat problems will i face if i upgrade to sid? |
| 09:17.45 | sep | Casanova: then you definitiftly shouldnt run sid |
| 09:17.46 | wols_ | QUACH-214: dpkg -l proftpd |
| 09:18.03 | wols_ | the two letters at the left must be "ii" and not "un" or similar |
| 09:18.04 | chealer | !tell Casanova about iyhtays |
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| 09:18.20 | denis_ | postel: i'm hoping i don't have to go create all the files manually |
| 09:18.24 | QUACH-214 | wols yes im sure ,, |
| 09:18.41 | wols_ | QUACH-214: have you looked with dpkg -l ? |
| 09:19.09 | QUACH-214 | yes it cant find |
| 09:19.10 | Casanova | sep, wat abt etch then? should that also be not tried? |
| 09:19.18 | wols_ | QUACH-214: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=%2Fetc%2Finit.d%2Fproftpd&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 09:19.25 | QUACH-214 | i install pd-admin and can add/del new ftp account for user |
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| 09:19.32 | sep | Casanova: sid is where things are placed to be tested, if it works before they are placed into testing/etch for widespread testing. basicaly in sid things can and do break, and if you dont know how to fix that, you are helpless basicaly. with sarge you is pretty much garanteed that it works |
| 09:19.36 | QUACH-214 | and con use ftp client to login |
| 09:19.37 | wols_ | QUACH-214: you can dpkg-reconfigure proftpd and let it start as daemon instead from inetd |
| 09:19.43 | sep | roughly speaking that is |
| 09:20.02 | uglyrock | hello all, can anyone help me please.. I am trying to create a RAID1 Mirrror on Woody, using Keith Edmunds instructions Install Woody on RAID 1. However when I get as far as the mkraid command, the command is not found. I have got raidtools2 installed.. can anyone give me a pointer please |
| 09:20.03 | Casanova | sep, i at least want KDE3.4 and Gnome2.10 running... |
| 09:20.12 | QUACH-214 | ok |
| 09:20.14 | QUACH-214 | thx |
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| 09:21.01 | chealer | !tell Casanova about kde3.4 |
| 09:21.07 | wols_ | QUACH-214: check with netstat -anp|less what process runs on port 21 then |
| 09:21.41 | abby | morning |
| 09:21.57 | Casanova | chealer, at least gnome 2.10? |
| 09:22.39 | chealer | Casanova: you'd need sid for that. so you most likely don't want it. wait until it enters testing, maybe |
| 09:22.42 | wols_ | uglyrock: read the full description there: http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/raidtools2 |
| 09:22.47 | abby | How to mount a file? ...with patitions |
| 09:22.57 | uglyrock | Great thanks |
| 09:23.00 | Casanova | chealer, and open office 2 beta? |
| 09:23.34 | chealer | Casanova: it's in experimental. you are warned : it *is* broken |
| 09:23.55 | Casanova | chealer, i emerged OO2 in gentoo.. it worked quite fine.... |
| 09:24.00 | wols_ | abby: just with "mount" as a normal partition too |
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| 09:24.44 | abby | how ? mount file /mnt/tmp -o loop,offset=? |
| 09:24.52 | wols_ | uglyrock: oops. could be I told you th wrong info since woody isn't stable anymore but oldstable |
| 09:25.00 | wols_ | abby: why offset? |
| 09:25.36 | abby | it deal with fdisk |
| 09:25.54 | Casanova | chealer, cant i just upgrade gnome to 2.10 from sarge itself? |
| 09:26.07 | wols_ | what is it what you want to do? please explain yourself more clearly |
| 09:26.08 | abby | losetup /dev/loop0 file |
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| 09:26.34 | abby | I can see one patition by : cfdisk |
| 09:26.41 | abby | I can see one patition by : cfdisk /dev/loop0 |
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| 09:27.21 | chealer | Casanova: sarge has gnome 2.8 |
| 09:27.32 | wols_ | a partitiontable itself is minimum 512 bytes. so use an offset of 512 and try it |
| 09:27.38 | wols_ | if it can't mount it, you will get an error |
| 09:27.54 | Casanova | chealer, ok c.. i wanna upgrade to sid then.... how do i go about it? |
| 09:28.01 | abby | :( |
| 09:28.09 | wols_ | not working? |
| 09:28.18 | Casanova | chealer, i read on the net to place testing repositories on the sources.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade.... but that is not working |
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| 09:28.37 | abby | letme try |
| 09:28.59 | wols_ | abby: is this a file on your disk your want to mount or is it an actual partition which is encrypted? |
| 09:29.05 | tengulre | I m installing debian now :) |
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| 09:29.33 | abby | not be encrypted |
| 09:29.35 | chealer | Casanova: I won't "help" you "upgrading" to sid, but if you explain why sarge or gnome 2.8 can't do for you, somebody else might |
| 09:29.55 | abby | I knew it |
| 09:30.36 | Casanova | chealer, i like bleeding edge software.... its just my home pc... i like to keep it very up to date.... more over i am kinda used to gnome 2.10 now... i wanna continue in that |
| 09:31.02 | ColonelKernel | I ddnt find gnome 2.10 impressive at all |
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| 09:32.54 | chealer | Casanova: that's not a valid explanation for me, but maybe somebody else wants to help you waste your time |
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| 09:33.05 | Casanova | :( |
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| 09:34.13 | liable | Casanova: whats so great about 2.10, compared to the previous version? |
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| 09:34.42 | Casanova | liable, i guess its a matter of getting used to |
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| 09:34.53 | liable | Casanova: maybe try a different distro if bleading edge is so important. |
| 09:35.10 | liable | Casanova: well, get used too the older one :P |
| 09:35.19 | Casanova | lol |
| 09:35.24 | Casanova | y dont ppl want me to use sid? |
| 09:35.33 | liable | NO |
| 09:35.49 | chealer | Casanova: this is supposed to be a help channel |
| 09:36.23 | Casanova | chealer, and i am asking help to upgrade :p |
| 09:36.30 | liable | !aolify Casanova |
| 09:36.46 | Casanova | fine |
| 09:37.08 | chealer | Casanova: wait until it's in testing, and I'll tell you how to upgrade, if it's not explained already |
| 09:37.19 | Casanova | ok :) |
| 09:37.41 | ColonelKernel | i dont like the performance of gnome 2.10 |
| 09:37.51 | ColonelKernel | 2.8 is way faster and more responsive |
| 09:38.00 | ColonelKernel | im wondering what the benefit is supposed to be |
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| 09:38.08 | liable | gnomeperformance is an oxymoron no? |
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| 09:38.53 | Casanova | ColonelKernel, if performance is important isnt XFCE a better choice? |
| 09:39.08 | ColonelKernel | np |
| 09:39.09 | ColonelKernel | no |
| 09:39.31 | ColonelKernel | I like to use gnome, and I prefer the performance of 2.8 over the poor performance of 2.10 |
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| 09:40.05 | ColonelKernel | 2.10 even worked bad in gentoo |
| 09:40.15 | liable | ColonelKernel: where'd you get 2.10 from? different distro? |
| 09:40.18 | liable | ahhh |
| 09:40.22 | Casanova | ColonelKernel, it worked perfectly for me on gentoo |
| 09:40.30 | ColonelKernel | I tried it out on gentoo and fedoracore4 |
| 09:40.45 | ColonelKernel | Casanova, I guess your definition of perfectly is different than mine |
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| 09:41.27 | Casanova | :D |
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| 09:41.38 | subvertir | my definition of gnome working perfectly is: "on someone elses box" |
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| 09:42.40 | chealer | a release war never beats a GUI war |
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| 09:43.05 | sypher | hey guys ... |
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| 09:43.14 | subvertir | amen |
| 09:43.23 | sypher | someone remembers the link to the howto to build the java package? |
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| 09:44.07 | liable | sypher: ever heard of /topic |
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| 09:44.18 | jhumo | hi |
| 09:44.29 | jhumo | everbody |
| 09:44.39 | sypher | LOOOOL liable :D |
| 09:44.39 | liable | !hi jhumo |
| 09:44.40 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai jhumo! |
| 09:44.54 | jhumo | ;-) |
| 09:44.59 | jhumo | so whats up guys |
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| 09:45.26 | liable | jhumo: you would like 700+ answers to that question? |
| 09:45.28 | subvertir | so, uh, is xorg in unstable yet? |
| 09:45.46 | chealer | !tell subvertir about xorg |
| 09:45.49 | greyson | Anyone ever gotten vim to work with scalable fonts (without stretching the window from here to kingdom come)? |
| 09:45.49 | liable | !topicsmite subvertir |
| 09:45.50 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon subvertir. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 09:46.01 | jhumo | what might be the requirements for distribution on MIPS |
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| 09:46.13 | liable | fuck, does *no-one* read the topic? |
| 09:46.29 | subvertir | I can't read the fucking topic you holier than thou little kike |
| 09:46.47 | liable | subvertir: and the reason for that is? |
| 09:47.07 | subvertir | I AM LAZY |
| 09:47.21 | Toadstool | hi everybody |
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| 09:47.57 | jhumo | hi Toadstool |
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| 09:49.24 | Toadstool | I suppose there is someone here who has already used pam_ldap with a sarge |
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| 09:50.52 | jetx | zorg is evil |
| 09:51.00 | Whisky | How do I run a cron job to do "updatedb" every hour ? |
| 09:51.19 | Anders1 | Whisky, you add a cron rule |
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| 09:51.29 | Toadstool | Jun 22 23:02:13 localhost sshd[11312]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user "cn=test,ou=people,ou=pamtest,ou=club,dc=maisel,dc=enst-bretagne,dc=fr" (Invalid credentials) <-- is it due to a bad configuration of openldap ? |
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| 09:51.59 | eye69 | Put "0 * * * * root /usr/bin/updatedb" in /etc/crontab |
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| 09:52.05 | liable | jetx: I believe buck rogers defeated the zorgs in the end. :P |
| 09:52.08 | zu22 | updateb is for updating man pages eh? |
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| 09:52.11 | Whisky | oh ok thanx |
| 09:52.19 | eye69 | zu22: No, it updates the locate database. |
| 09:52.19 | Whisky | zu22: updating file structure |
| 09:52.21 | zu22 | liable: the tv series so corny but hot girls lool |
| 09:52.25 | zu22 | ahh |
| 09:52.45 | tengulre | bye |
| 09:52.49 | tengulre | quit |
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| 09:52.56 | Whisky | eye69: What are the *'s and 0 for ? |
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| 09:53.11 | ColonelKernel | ok |
| 09:53.12 | eye69 | Whisky: man 5 crontab |
| 09:53.13 | qwertz__ | Hi! Just dist-upgraded to evo 2.2.2 on my debian sarge box and now now exchange support seems to be available - anyone had the same problem? |
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| 09:53.39 | ColonelKernel | how do I deinstall mozilla without deinstalling gnome? same goes for epiphany |
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| 09:53.44 | Whisky | eye69: K thanks |
| 09:54.18 | eye69 | qwertz__: Is it a problem that exchange support is available? :) |
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| 09:54.27 | Anders1 | ColonelKernel, they don't uninstall GNOME etc, it just tries to uninstall the meta packages |
| 09:54.33 | Anders1 | it won't remove anything except for mozilla |
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| 09:56.01 | qwertz__ | eye69, it should of course be not available :) |
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| 09:56.26 | ColonelKernel | hey dude it says its gonna remove gnome-desktop-environment |
| 09:56.31 | ColonelKernel | im not stoked on that |
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| 09:57.06 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 09:57.24 | amorphix | is it hot enough for everyone |
| 09:57.36 | cusco | ColonelKernel: use the synaptci |
| 09:57.36 | tarzeau | amorphix: yes |
| 09:57.39 | amorphix | :) |
| 09:57.40 | liable | its bloody cold here. |
| 09:57.41 | cusco | ColonelKernel: synaptic |
| 09:57.44 | yaboo | is the xorg server official in debian? |
| 09:57.47 | amorphix | liable where you at? |
| 09:58.04 | tarzeau | jetx: hey, isn't zorg from toy story? |
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| 09:58.04 | liable | amorphix: nw qld, australia |
| 09:58.07 | ColonelKernel | cusco, that gives the same error - this is a dpkg option im lokoing for and i cant find it in the manual |
| 09:58.14 | cusco | liable: in the next #room its bloody worm |
| 09:58.15 | amorphix | do any of you guys suffer with aches and pains in the arm/wrist/finger joints? |
| 09:58.15 | tarzeau | !zorg |
| 09:58.18 | tarzeau | yaboo: no it's not |
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| 09:58.27 | yaboo | tarzeau, thanks |
| 09:58.28 | liable | cusco: ?? |
| 09:58.37 | Guerin | ColonelKernel: if it removes the metapackage, that's no big deal. |
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| 09:58.45 | amorphix | a disorder commonly known as RSI here |
| 09:58.49 | Guerin | ColonelKernel: if it actually removes all the packages, then you should worry. |
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| 09:59.13 | amorphix | since you guys spend so much time using puters i wondered if any of you had experienced RSI |
| 09:59.16 | ColonelKernel | Guerin, I was worried it would. |
| 09:59.36 | Guerin | ColonelKernel: nope. It'll list every package which will be removed, and you get to vet them. |
| 09:59.44 | ColonelKernel | thats cool |
| 09:59.44 | liable | amorphix: to much pr0n? :P |
| 09:59.53 | ColonelKernel | thanks |
| 09:59.53 | Guerin | amorphix: i did have, back when I played gamez a lot |
| 09:59.57 | amorphix | liable: hehe hardly |
| 10:00.11 | Guerin | amorphix: but it seems to have solved itself |
| 10:00.17 | amorphix | oh |
| 10:00.23 | amorphix | thats good to hear, cuz i have it bad |
| 10:00.24 | abby | wols_: aha, I got it. the offset is 32256 |
| 10:00.56 | michal_ | I'm trying to access a disk on an Adaptec AIC-7861 controller and I can't figure out what modules I need to load. in the past loading aic7xxx would just magically work.. |
| 10:01.00 | Guerin | amorphix: i didn't have it bad. |
| 10:01.07 | tarzeau | WENAS! |
| 10:01.20 | amorphix | im gonna setup IBM viavoice |
| 10:01.21 | michal_ | now I've loaded aic7xxx and aic79xx succesfully but neither did anything |
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| 10:02.06 | abby | thx wols_ , bye |
| 10:02.09 | nvz | michal_: is sd_mod loaded? |
| 10:02.40 | michal_ | nvz: yes.. but that didn't do anything either |
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| 10:02.57 | jm_ | what should it do? |
| 10:03.11 | amorphix | is it possible to boot linux off a CF card in a PCMCIA slot adaptor? |
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| 10:03.33 | nvz | michal_: none of them are going to really "do anything" |
| 10:03.34 | tarzeau | amorphix: i doubt, for i368 |
| 10:03.37 | CosmoDad | what do I have to do to make my client receive its hostname via DHCP? |
| 10:03.38 | tarzeau | i386 even |
| 10:03.45 | amorphix | :-( |
| 10:03.50 | tarzeau | CosmoDad: set one? |
| 10:03.50 | ColonelKernel | anyone ever used a kensington expert mouse? |
| 10:03.54 | directhex|work | amorphix, in a pcmcia slot? unlikely |
| 10:03.55 | michal_ | nvz: so none of them are suppose to log anything at all? |
| 10:04.01 | amorphix | that sux |
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| 10:04.07 | jm_ | ColonelKernel: yes, you |
| 10:04.11 | tarzeau | ColonelKernel: i've got kensington locks. got a photo of such mouse? |
| 10:04.13 | CosmoDad | tarzeau: why should I set one if I want to get it via DHCP?? |
| 10:04.26 | tarzeau | CosmoDad: set it on the dhcpd, silly |
| 10:04.26 | directhex|work | amorphix, use a usb pen drive or something |
| 10:04.27 | CosmoDad | tarzeau: I'm talking client-side |
| 10:04.32 | CosmoDad | tarzeau: it is! |
| 10:04.34 | amorphix | directhex: good idea |
| 10:04.45 | amorphix | it's possible to do a network boot? |
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| 10:04.57 | amorphix | but that would require a hard drive still eh |
| 10:05.23 | Whisky_ | Any way I could make my system send me an SMS to my phone after a cron is done? :p |
| 10:05.33 | CosmoDad | tarzeau: I have this debian box in a suse environment, all the other suse clients receive their names properly, but not the debian one |
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| 10:05.43 | CosmoDad | tarzeau: is there anything to do in /etc/networking/interfaces or /etc/hostname? |
| 10:05.44 | ColonelKernel | tarzeau, its got an enormous trackball on it, lemme look for a pic |
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| 10:06.35 | ColonelKernel | tarzeau, http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/61/53/pr-Mousing_Devices_ACCO_Brands_Kensington_Expert_Mouse_Trackball_64215_NFR-resized200.jpg |
| 10:06.50 | ColonelKernel | this is nice even if you have to set the res down |
| 10:07.50 | tarzeau | ColonelKernel: enourmous! |
| 10:08.15 | ColonelKernel | I like the new mice b.c you can pop the trackballs out and use them like those chinese balls with the bell in them |
| 10:08.19 | ColonelKernel | so easy on the hands |
| 10:08.26 | ColonelKernel | Ive got a couple of opticals too |
| 10:08.27 | tarzeau | hah |
| 10:08.45 | HPLPB-Comp1 | got a problem with mounting my 2nd hard drive.. I'm really confused as to what could have possibly happened.. for some reason there are no hda* devices as all anymore in /dev/.. the only thing that I did was connect the 2nd hard drive and moved the cdrom to slave (was previously master) |
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| 10:08.46 | RichiH | ColonelKernel: you could do that with old trackballs as well |
| 10:08.58 | tarzeau | RichiH: they're not large enough |
| 10:09.12 | HPLPB-Comp1 | if I try to mount the hard drive or cdrom, it tells me that /dev/hda*, etc does not exist |
| 10:09.13 | ColonelKernel | yeah the new ones are just the right size |
| 10:09.18 | RichiH | there were two logitech trackballs with like huge balls |
| 10:09.31 | ColonelKernel | RichiH, I got one of the opticals and an MS optical |
| 10:09.38 | ColonelKernel | theyre both great |
| 10:09.59 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: custom kernel or debian kernel? |
| 10:10.08 | HPLPB-Comp1 | debian, 2.6 kernel |
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| 10:10.28 | HPLPB-Comp1 | everything seemed to be working fine til I put the 2nd hard drive on |
| 10:10.33 | ColonelKernel | HPLPB-Comp1, out of curiosity is that a dell? |
| 10:10.38 | HPLPB-Comp1 | nope |
| 10:10.43 | ColonelKernel | what kind of box is it? |
| 10:10.50 | spaetz | mmh, any howtos on how to create a new printer that only prints odd/even pages? |
| 10:10.57 | HPLPB-Comp1 | custom built |
| 10:11.02 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: why is the 2nd harddrive /dev/hda? |
| 10:11.05 | spaetz | setting lptions page-set=odd did not work under gnome |
| 10:11.12 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: whats 'fdisk -l' say |
| 10:11.17 | HPLPB-Comp1 | the main hard drive is /dev/sda, which is an sata drive |
| 10:11.32 | wols_ | ah |
| 10:11.34 | HPLPB-Comp1 | so I have my 2nd hard drive on IDE1 master, and cdrom on IDE1 slave |
| 10:11.43 | spaetz | 2nd hd /dev/hda might be if the 1st is e.g. SATA |
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| 10:11.53 | jm_ | spaetz: it should work |
| 10:11.59 | nvz | wtf is up with mapquest.. heh surely this has got to be wrong. I've mapquested Bethlehem, PA and Easton, PA and it keeps giving me two hits for each one on different sides of the state |
| 10:12.04 | spaetz | jm_ that's what I though |
| 10:12.05 | spaetz | t |
| 10:12.08 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: don't put CD and hdd on the same IDE channel. unless you want a slower hdd |
| 10:12.11 | amorphix | im having a problem with a motherboard im trying to boot up, when i power it up all i can get is one line "Video Bios", goes no further.. anyone any ideas? |
| 10:12.34 | michal_ | so any idea why lspci would be able to see a device but the device driver modules can't? |
| 10:12.38 | HPLPB-Comp1 | wols_, well that's the least of my problems right now, heh |
| 10:12.41 | wols_ | amorphix: does it beep? tried another videcard? |
| 10:12.48 | jm_ | spaetz: try setting it on lp command line and check if it works |
| 10:12.51 | HPLPB-Comp1 | I can't even mount the hard drive |
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| 10:12.56 | ColonelKernel | amorphix, thats bad hardware |
| 10:12.59 | HPLPB-Comp1 | or the cdrom |
| 10:12.59 | Tuttle | The mesademos are slow as hell and print this: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". (Debian Sarge) What should I do to have it accelerated on my Matrox G400? |
| 10:13.00 | amorphix | wols_: it doesnt beep...the video card is onboard cuz its a laptop mb |
| 10:13.06 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: not really. sometimes different ATA devices don't like each other, refusing to work together. |
| 10:13.11 | michal_ | actually |
| 10:13.12 | spaetz | jm_: actually I think it works with lpr and lp but not with the gnome print dialog |
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| 10:13.14 | michal_ | wtf is a DPIO module |
| 10:13.15 | michal_ | ? |
| 10:13.16 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: does your BIOS recognize hda? |
| 10:13.16 | michal_ | 0000:00:0d.0 DPIO module: Adaptec AIC-7861 (rev 01) |
| 10:13.19 | HPLPB-Comp1 | ahh.. good point |
| 10:13.30 | jm_ | spaetz: ahh |
| 10:13.32 | spaetz | which makes me suspect that gnome gives a page-set=all option or somethink through its dialog |
| 10:13.33 | amorphix | ColonelKernel: oh? well theres nothing connected to mb apart from external kb and monitor, no ram even |
| 10:13.33 | jetx | no zorg is the fifth element |
| 10:13.39 | HPLPB-Comp1 | yeah.. shows the 2nd hd as primary master, and the cdrom as primary slave |
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| 10:13.47 | HPLPB-Comp1 | and if I boot into knoppix, I can mount both fine |
| 10:13.57 | ColonelKernel | amorphix, theres your answer then - put some ram in the box. |
| 10:14.03 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: modules loaded for em? |
| 10:14.09 | nvz | for Easton, PA it says Easton, PA, Claroin, US or Easton, PA, Northhampton, US and for Bethlehem, PA it says Bethlehem, PA, Northampton, US or Bethlehem, PA, Clearfield, US *shrugs* |
| 10:14.10 | spaetz | so I thought a filter using ps utilities which only selects odd/even pages might be the solution |
| 10:14.14 | amorphix | ColonelKernel: but it has 16mb onboard, should be ok to boot eh |
| 10:14.20 | nvz | that shit got me baffled |
| 10:14.23 | wols_ | amorphix: without RAM a PC can't boot. a PC is supposed to have at least 64kB (yes, kB). It only should beep and complain about no ram this way |
| 10:14.33 | HPLPB-Comp1 | lemme check.. which modules should be loaded for them? |
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| 10:14.36 | ColonelKernel | amorphix, never heard of any board with onboard system ram - what mobo is that? |
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| 10:14.50 | jetx | 8088 |
| 10:15.01 | amorphix | ColonelKernel: it's a Toshiba Satellite Pro motherboard (laptop) |
| 10:15.11 | ColonelKernel | hmm |
| 10:15.12 | jetx | chicago is central |
| 10:15.13 | amorphix | comes with 16mb or 32mb of onboard ram, not sure which |
| 10:15.27 | HPLPB-Comp1 | liable, ide-cd, ide-detect, and ide-disk are in my /etc/modules |
| 10:15.32 | amorphix | theres an expansion slot for more ram |
| 10:15.49 | sander_ | anyone know whats wrong.. when I get: "Permission denied (publickey).".. when trying to log into ssh? |
| 10:15.51 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: and showing in lsmod? |
| 10:16.13 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: checked the logs at all? |
| 10:16.19 | ColonelKernel | you sure that isnt video ram |
| 10:16.20 | jetx | there's an upgrade that disables using public keys in sid a week or so ago |
| 10:16.28 | HPLPB-Comp1 | I see ide_disk, ide_cd, ide_core, cdrom |
| 10:16.30 | jetx | it asks you lthough |
| 10:16.38 | sander_ | jetx, yes.. I used that one |
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| 10:16.47 | amorphix | ColonelKernel: 2 rows of 4 chips is prolly ram? |
| 10:16.51 | ColonelKernel | P000363680 OEM factory direct System / Motherboard - VGA Board with 16MB VRAM A5A000170030 - PCB FMNVG2 |
| 10:16.52 | sander_ | jetx, whats the point having that one? |
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| 10:17.01 | jetx | i'd like to know what to dpkg-reconfigure to reset that |
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| 10:17.11 | HPLPB-Comp1 | liable, which log would I want to look at? |
| 10:17.20 | amorphix | ColonelKernel: is that my mb? |
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| 10:17.28 | jetx | sander_: it's the default, and it's more secure i guess |
| 10:17.32 | jetx | not sure |
| 10:17.37 | ColonelKernel | thats the only satellite board I found that mentioned onboard memory |
| 10:17.42 | amorphix | phew |
| 10:17.44 | nvz | screw that shit. I am going by zipcode, thats just confusing |
| 10:17.48 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: kernel, syslog, messages, have a look in each to be sure. |
| 10:17.51 | Guerin | jetx: it disables PK logins? |
| 10:17.54 | HPLPB-Comp1 | k |
| 10:17.59 | amorphix | that cant be mine, it only has 2mb vdram |
| 10:18.04 | sander_ | jetx, ok. what do I need to do.. to get it working.. without public key? |
| 10:18.05 | Xteven | hello, is there a way to include additional files in a kernel-image package made with make-kpkg ? or a way to modify the package |
| 10:18.07 | amorphix | im confused |
| 10:18.24 | jetx | yeah it asked me here, but i haven't been able to ssh into the box in the bedroom for a week now |
| 10:18.40 | jetx | the upgrade did ask me here on this box i mean |
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| 10:19.04 | jetx | and i'm too lazy to figure it out |
| 10:19.16 | migma | hey guys, I'm having a hard time setting up my printer, I've followed the howto at linuxprinting yet all my printer is printing are variables like %!PS-Adobe-3.0, %%BoundingBox: (atend), etc. |
| 10:19.29 | jetx | use cups |
| 10:19.40 | jetx | ? |
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| 10:19.55 | migma | jetx, I'm using cups. |
| 10:20.09 | subvertir | for your liquor? |
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| 10:20.30 | Agrajag- | hmm anyone else happen to be using current testing with ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing and gets "mplayer: relocation error: /usr/lib/libavcodec-cvs.so: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen" with mplayer? |
| 10:20.36 | jetx | i tried every thing but cups, got the same thing. then i used cups. last night iirc.. no night before. |
| 10:20.55 | michal_ | OK.. I'm worried.. why is the lspci line now this: |
| 10:20.55 | jetx | had same jusk printed, but it would spew all the paper out |
| 10:20.55 | michal_ | 0000:00:0d.0 1900: Adaptec AIC-7861 (rev 01) |
| 10:20.59 | spaetz | migma: using the correct printer driver should solve this |
| 10:21.00 | michal_ | it's changed after a reboot |
| 10:21.02 | spaetz | IMHO |
| 10:21.07 | michal_ | is that normal? |
| 10:21.19 | HPLPB-Comp1 | liable, from the kernel log, it looks like it's detecting the drive.. but I don't see it doing anything else with it |
| 10:21.33 | migma | spaetz, I am using the correct driver for my printer, I downloaded the ppd file at linuxprinting |
| 10:21.40 | migma | any ideas? |
| 10:21.49 | jetx | setting the ... |
| 10:21.50 | Guerin | !any ideas |
| 10:21.50 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of string, a little vegemite, and a dozen starving goats. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 10:21.52 | HPLPB-Comp1 | this should be the drive right here: ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133 |
| 10:22.10 | Guerin | Agrajag-: yes. |
| 10:22.27 | michal_ | wtf is wrong with sarge :/ why can't it see the drive |
| 10:22.28 | Guerin | Agrajag-: you're using rarewares, or some other nonstandard media repo, aren't you? |
| 10:22.29 | subvertir | I like hte way dpkg thinks - but where are we going to find 12 monkeys with rubber pants at this time in the morning? |
| 10:22.42 | jetx | setting the ... Device URI: ptal:/mlc:par:OfficeJet_Series_600 |
| 10:22.58 | jetx | device uri |
| 10:23.01 | Xteven | maybe another question then :) |
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| 10:23.06 | Agrajag- | Guerin: no, only the debian-marillat repo |
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| 10:23.32 | jetx | cd:/ ? |
| 10:23.33 | Agrajag- | that's the only non standard repo i have in my sources.list |
| 10:23.37 | QUACH-VU | anyone know how to use CHMOD with ProFTPd the latest version? i cant use FTP client to CHMOD file |
| 10:23.37 | Xteven | when I make a kernel-image with make-kpkg and install it on woody, it doesn't automagically insert a new kernel entry in menu.lst (grub). why not ? |
| 10:23.48 | migma | brb |
| 10:23.52 | QUACH-VU | althougj i have used <Limit SITE_CHMOD> |
| 10:23.53 | QUACH-VU | AllowAll |
| 10:23.53 | QUACH-VU | </Limit> |
| 10:24.02 | jetx | which make-kpkg, the woody one? |
| 10:24.09 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: you have changed your fstab, I take it? |
| 10:24.20 | Xteven | jetx : sarge one |
| 10:24.33 | HPLPB-Comp1 | liable, yep |
| 10:24.43 | Guerin | Agrajag-: it's a tricky one to solve, because it's not fixed by removing either mplayer or libavcodeccvs - it's in another codec lib. Or at least, it was for me |
| 10:25.00 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: fdisk -l /dev/hda doesnt show it? |
| 10:25.11 | HPLPB-Comp1 | tried cfdisk /dev/hda |
| 10:25.14 | HPLPB-Comp1 | and got nothing |
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| 10:25.24 | Agrajag- | ok. i guess i should try fixing the codecs i have first then |
| 10:25.25 | Agrajag- | thanks |
| 10:25.35 | HPLPB-Comp1 | liable, also tried hdb, hdc, hdd, and also nothing |
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| 10:25.53 | jetx | try sda ? |
| 10:25.58 | bLAStY_ | cat /proc/partitions |
| 10:26.06 | liable | yeah |
| 10:26.14 | HPLPB-Comp1 | jetx, well.. sda is the sata drive |
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| 10:26.18 | jm_ | xten;am kernel-img.conf |
| 10:26.24 | jm_ | Xteven ^^^^^^ |
| 10:26.29 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: dmesg|grep disk |
| 10:26.50 | Xteven | jm_ : interesting :) I'll google for more info on that |
| 10:27.00 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: dmesg|grep DISK rather |
| 10:27.12 | bLAStY_ | grep -i disk |
| 10:27.17 | bLAStY_ | :P |
| 10:27.22 | jm_ | Xteven: that should say man ... |
| 10:27.28 | HPLPB-Comp1 | wols_, shows sda at scsi0 |
| 10:27.35 | Xteven | jm_ : yeah found it :) thx!! |
| 10:27.41 | jetx | man kernel-pkg.conf also |
| 10:27.54 | wols_ | then the kernel doesn't recognize your hda for some reason and no fdisk ro cat /proc/partitions will ever show it until the kernel does |
| 10:28.08 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: change the cd to master and hdd to slave and reboot, for shits and giggles. |
| 10:28.13 | jetx | load the ide module? |
| 10:28.20 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: dmesg |grep ide |
| 10:28.22 | jetx | not just those generics |
| 10:28.22 | HPLPB-Comp1 | but that's because the drive is disconnected right now.. I took it out after things started acting weird after booting with the drive connected |
| 10:28.35 | wols_ | there should be something like Jun 21 10:54:38 adlatus kernel: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xec00-0xec07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio |
| 10:28.38 | jm_ | that means your hardware setup has issues |
| 10:28.45 | jetx | it's not in but you're trying to fdisk it? |
| 10:28.46 | HPLPB-Comp1 | I'll try rebooting with only the hard drive |
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| 10:29.16 | wols_ | acting weird how? |
| 10:29.31 | Guerin | Agrajag-: http://feayn.org/~lewis/mplayerbuilddeps <-- try installing that lot - packages which it says are broken should be what's causing the problem. |
| 10:29.36 | liable | HPLPB-Comp1: why do you think you should be able to see a drive that isnt connected? |
| 10:29.44 | HPLPB-Comp1 | the odd thing is that the last time I booted, with the hard drive on.. when I checked /dev/, there was no hda* there, and then all of the sudden, I checked it, and only initctl was there and nothing else |
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| 10:30.08 | jetx | zzz |
| 10:30.13 | HPLPB-Comp1 | liable, I don't think that.. I wasn't able to mount it when it was connected |
| 10:30.45 | HPLPB-Comp1 | I just removed it, because things started acting all weird when I connected it.. removed it, and now everything is fine again |
| 10:30.46 | amorphix | what's an "RTC battery" (small green battery that plugs on mb) |
| 10:30.48 | Agrajag- | Guerin: ok, thanks |
| 10:31.32 | HPLPB-Comp1 | in addition to everything in /dev/ disappearing, after that, I couldnt' log in to any terminals, and I rebooted, and it got stuck after loading USB |
| 10:31.37 | jetx | real time clock? |
| 10:31.45 | amorphix | ahh |
| 10:31.59 | jetx | just a guess |
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| 10:33.01 | HighPingedLPB | <-- HPLPB-Comp1 |
| 10:33.13 | HighPingedLPB | going to reboot with only the 2nd hard drive this time |
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| 10:33.23 | rocky23 | hi all |
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| 10:33.28 | rocky23 | i have a bash script with the command using ==, this isnt valid with ash, what can i use instead ? |
| 10:33.35 | michal_ | this is f'd up beyond comprehension :/ going to try and reinstall sarge and seee if it picks up the disk ok then |
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| 10:34.15 | tarzeau | rocky23: paste the command please |
| 10:34.35 | tarzeau | rocky23: you can use diff? |
| 10:35.00 | rocky23 | tarz: can i pm it |
| 10:35.13 | HighPingedLPB | ok, booting with only the 2nd hard drive connected |
| 10:35.17 | tarzeau | rocky23: no |
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| 10:35.56 | rocky23 | ok its : bin_tc='which tc' if (("BIN_TC" == "")) ; then BIN_TC='which tc' fi |
| 10:36.22 | rocky23 | object "==" is unknown |
| 10:36.27 | liable | shower time..... |
| 10:36.40 | tarzeau | ah |
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| 10:36.50 | tarzeau | rocky23: add a x to both |
| 10:36.58 | tarzeau | "BIN_TCx" == "x" |
| 10:37.06 | rocky23 | ah ok |
| 10:37.36 | sander_ | jetx, I found out... ssh-keygen -t dsa; cp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub ~/.ssh/identity.pub; ssh-copy-id host@ip; ssh host@ip; then you will be able to log in one way.. to bypass public key thingie. you need to copy the key another way |
| 10:37.59 | nvz | well I found 8 active LUGs in PA, LVLUG, LafayetteLUG, ErieLUG, PLUG, WPLUG, CPLUG, DUGLUG, and BCLUG the only one remotly close is WPLUG that meets on the CMU campus about 25mi South-east of here. but they are in an awkward spot, I am outiside the city.. LeetLUG is comming up as the newest LUG in Western-Pennsylvania :P |
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| 10:38.35 | rocky23 | tarzeau: ive done that and now its failing on line 19 which is "fi" with permission denied do i need to use something else? |
| 10:38.38 | HPLPB-Comp1 | ok.. booted with the 2nd hard drive now.. but still nothing is showing up |
| 10:39.01 | HPLPB-Comp1 | still have this in dmesg: ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133 |
| 10:39.01 | ChrisH | G'day... this morning I found my server (Woody, x86) missing executables like "env" or "dircolors" and my /usr and /home was not writeable. (Although "mount" showed (rw) it claimed it's mounted read-only.) After rebooting I had to fsck the partitions which took an eternity and printed out large amounts of "kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }". Is my IDE disk dying? |
| 10:39.12 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: is the IDE chipset recognized by the kernel? what does dmesg say? |
| 10:39.16 | tarzeau | rocky23: don't use ash :) |
| 10:39.26 | tarzeau | rocky23: can you not say you want sh or bash for your script? |
| 10:39.27 | wols_ | Is the optical drive recognized? what kind of mobo is it? |
| 10:39.34 | streuner_ | ChrisH: yes |
| 10:39.39 | rocky23 | tarzeau: true but is there a way round it ? its using sh but thats using ash |
| 10:39.40 | jetx | that is the "my hd is dying" message |
| 10:39.40 | Xteven | jm_ : do you maybe also know how I can change the name of the package ? or how to leave the version number out of it ? |
| 10:39.43 | streuner_ | ChrisH: backup your data now. |
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| 10:39.49 | jetx | dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error |
| 10:39.50 | tarzeau | rocky23: use bash |
| 10:39.50 | HPLPB-Comp1 | wols_, the optical drive is no longer connected.. only the 2nd hd |
| 10:39.57 | tarzeau | rocky23: and don't waste your time |
| 10:40.00 | ChrisH | streuner_: I have a full backup from the last days thanks to bacula. |
| 10:40.01 | jetx | you might try reseating the cables |
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| 10:40.03 | HPLPB-Comp1 | and the only thing I see in dmesg is what I pasted up there |
| 10:40.14 | jetx | make sure the jumpers are correct |
| 10:40.32 | rocky23 | tarzeau: is there a way round it though as i cant use bash on this |
| 10:40.33 | wols_ | ChrisH: and run smartmontools with an extended test on it |
| 10:40.37 | greyson | A few days ago, someone here (rhetorically) asked if we thought anyone still ran Woody... ChrisH has now answered this with a firm 'yes' -- though maybe not for long. |
| 10:40.40 | ChrisH | jetx: Cabling seems to be okay. It's a server screwed into a 19" rack. I assume the jumpers are like always. |
| 10:40.42 | Luqq | ChrisH: ur in deep shit lol |
| 10:40.43 | HPLPB-Comp1 | wols_, cfdisk /dev/hda says "Cannot open disk drive" |
| 10:40.44 | tarzeau | rocky23: no , i'm too lazy to find one |
| 10:40.46 | jetx | i heard a trick, put it in a baggie get all the air out and put it in the freezer |
| 10:40.48 | ChrisH | Luqq: Yeah, thanks. :) |
| 10:40.50 | karl | can anyone help I am trying to replicate ldap My configuration creates replogfiles, but they are empty . Any ideas? |
| 10:40.53 | Luqq | hehe yw |
| 10:40.54 | rocky23 | tarzeau: thanks for your help anyway |
| 10:40.54 | HPLPB-Comp1 | and I still can't mount it |
| 10:41.03 | jetx | check the cables and jumpers |
| 10:41.05 | nvz | I may not have a website, an offical meeting place or a college/university affiliation or the kind of support/funding that may entail.. but who needs that stuff anyway (: I say by the end of summer I will have a definate GNU/Linux user presence in this area, and Debian will become a household word around here |
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| 10:41.09 | HPLPB-Comp1 | and there's still no hda* in /dev/ |
| 10:41.10 | streuner_ | ChrisH: i had ones an case which i just used a wrong kernel, but thats not most of the cases with this error... |
| 10:41.18 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: what does dmesg say? if there is no hda in it's output cfdisk does everything in vain |
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| 10:41.25 | ChrisH | streuner_: Nah, the system configuration hasn't changed for three months. |
| 10:41.49 | E-bola | Anybody here familliar with rdiff-backup? I cant restore a file i need cuz the last backup failed, and i cant get it to ignore that. Rerun rdiff-backup with the --check-destination-dir option to revert directory to state before unsuccessful session. |
| 10:41.59 | E-bola | i dont knwo how to use that parameter, and the man pages dont help |
| 10:42.01 | HPLPB-Comp1 | wols_, only thing I see related to that hard drive in dmesg is this: ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133 |
| 10:42.08 | xam | ChrisH Kellogs |
| 10:42.12 | streuner_ | ChrisH: anyway it doesn't hurd to try a different kernel, if you see those errors still you have a problem |
| 10:42.16 | ChrisH | xam: Does it have enough cereals? |
| 10:42.27 | xam | ChrisH: sure |
| 10:42.42 | jetx | cereal modem? |
| 10:42.49 | ChrisH | streuner_: Well, it's a 200 GB disk. I'd rather spend 100€ for a new one instead of risking my data any further. |
| 10:42.55 | wols_ | HPLPB-Comp1: debian standard kernel I assume? |
| 10:42.59 | jetx | cereal ata |
| 10:43.03 | HPLPB-Comp1 | wols_, yes |
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| 10:43.17 | wols_ | just for giggles, try another version 2.4 instead of 2.6 |
| 10:43.20 | jetx | must be a maxtor hd |
| 10:43.36 | ChrisH | jetx: It indeed is. Maxtor 6Y200P0 |
| 10:44.05 | streuner_ | jetx: nah, HD's are dying often - its NO big deal |
| 10:44.08 | jetx | i don't like maxtor |
| 10:44.26 | wols_ | I know people who don't like WD |
| 10:44.28 | HPLPB-Comp1 | wols_, lemme try booting into 2.4.. havent' tried that yet |
| 10:44.32 | wols_ | and others yet don't like seagate |
| 10:44.40 | streuner_ | guess what branch it is... ;-) |
| 10:44.50 | PolarWolf | Or IBM, or Hitachi, or... |
| 10:44.56 | wols_ | streuner_: deathstar? |
| 10:45.06 | PolarWolf | OIW, every damn manufaturer has had its bad series. |
| 10:45.33 | jetx | maxtor seems to have a few more maybe |
| 10:45.50 | technos | *blinks* When did AT&T lose the "deathstar" moniker? |
| 10:46.05 | wols_ | xam: I won't put WD disks in there. not even 40GB ones :P |
| 10:46.13 | HighPingedLPB | wols_: I think that's the problem |
| 10:46.21 | jetx | wd 40 is a lubricant |
| 10:46.28 | HighPingedLPB | booted with 2.4, and it seems to be detecting it now |
| 10:46.30 | jetx | you spray it on |
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| 10:46.44 | werdnaxoc | what does recusively mean? |
| 10:46.49 | xam | wols_ erhhh, wd-40 as in www.wd40.com, not western digital ;) |
| 10:46.55 | jetx | all underneath |
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| 10:47.07 | jetx | direcory wise |
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| 10:47.12 | jetx | directory |
| 10:47.14 | wols_ | xam: I know, but wd is funnier :P |
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| 10:47.26 | Tuttle_ | Hi, I wish to initialize the DRI, but the XFree86 log contain this: "(--) MGA(0): VideoRAM: 8192 kByte MGA(0): Static buffer allocation failed, not initializing the DRI MGA(0): Need at least 15360 kB video memory at this resolution, bit depth." I have Debian Sarge and Matrox G400 video. How can I use DRI together with the resolution higher than 320x200? |
| 10:47.33 | HighPingedLPB | wols_: yep.. I can see the hard drive now |
| 10:47.43 | streuner | Seagate's HD (SCSI) are very good |
| 10:47.45 | wols_ | werdnaxoc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion |
| 10:47.51 | HighPingedLPB | so what's the deal with 2.6 now? |
| 10:48.02 | ColonelKernel | Tuttle_, go into your bios and give your video card 16mb |
| 10:48.03 | jetx | load the module |
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| 10:48.06 | wols_ | streuner_: I'm disappointed in their latest series (the 7200.x named ones) |
| 10:48.11 | jetx | like i said |
| 10:48.12 | xam | wols_: just found this http://www.twbc.org/wd40.htm ... jeeez, didn't know what you can do with it |
| 10:48.15 | wols_ | I love my barracuda iv to death, but the new ones... |
| 10:48.31 | Tuttle_ | ColonelKernel: Is it really that easy? :) |
| 10:48.47 | ColonelKernel | Tuttle_, thats what the error msg is saying |
| 10:48.55 | xam | wols_: hehe " • Helps remove stuck prosthetic leg" |
| 10:48.57 | Tuttle_ | thanks |
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| 10:49.28 | Trewas | hehe, tuttle will be disappointed when he notices that physical memory cannot be added to G400 from bios |
| 10:49.36 | ColonelKernel | ? |
| 10:49.47 | ColonelKernel | I used to have an hp box and it let you |
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| 10:50.16 | ColonelKernel | my only choices were 2 4 and 8 |
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| 10:50.18 | Trewas | yes, but you must have a graphics card included in the motherboard and using the main memory, G400 is a separate graphics card and it does not use system memory |
| 10:50.24 | wols_ | a G400 doesn't use shared memory |
| 10:50.28 | suzzi | howdy all |
| 10:50.44 | suzzi | any one know of a webDav server other then mod_dav ??? |
| 10:50.53 | wols_ | but I don't remember the G400 with less than 16MB |
| 10:50.58 | ColonelKernel | hmm mine would only do 3d in 800x600 or lower too |
| 10:50.59 | suzzi | I cant seem to find anything in aptitude... |
| 10:51.39 | Trewas | 8MB for g400 does indeed sound quite low, maybe he had erroneously specified that in xserver's configuration |
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| 10:52.29 | vorsprung | i think my g200 has 8M |
| 10:52.40 | ColonelKernel | maybe thats what I had a g200 |
| 10:52.44 | wols_ | vorsprung: yes, but that's why it's a G200 :) |
| 10:52.49 | vorsprung | wols_, :) |
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| 10:55.32 | HighPingedLPB | think it's working now.. thanks guys |
| 10:55.34 | Thanatermesis | any person have the problem with mplayer in fullscreen + zoom mode, "the size of video is more big than your screen" ? |
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| 10:56.45 | amorphix | If a BIOS only has hdd/fdd/cd as selectable boot options does that mean its impossible to do a boot from usb dev or via network? |
| 10:56.47 | Guerin | Thanatermesis: use -vf scale |
| 10:57.13 | sean_bcs | hi I've just installed debian/mepis and run apt-get update but get loads of file not found errors |
| 10:57.14 | ColonelKernel | amorphix, you can make a boot disk |
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| 10:57.27 | sean_bcs | can anyone pm a working version of sources.list |
| 10:57.27 | Guerin | sean_bcs: debian is not mepis. mepis is not debian. |
| 10:57.31 | werdnaxoc | how do you untar a .tar.gz |
| 10:57.34 | amorphix | ColonelKernel but i have no fdd or cdrom |
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| 10:57.43 | ColonelKernel | amorphix, thats a bummer |
| 10:57.49 | Guerin | werdnaxoc: man tar |
| 10:57.51 | jm_ | amorphix: you could use a boot loader such as GRUB to netboot it |
| 10:57.59 | amorphix | cool |
| 10:58.16 | amorphix | jm_ where do i put the boot loader? |
| 10:58.26 | jm_ | amorphix: hard disk? |
| 10:58.34 | amorphix | no hdd, no fdd, no cdrom |
| 10:58.36 | Thanatermesis | Guerin, the problem is: Im packaging an mplayer package, I need to repair this bug... this is a normal bug? all persons have this? or only me ? |
| 10:58.39 | amorphix | just a mb |
| 10:58.45 | Guerin | amorphix: apt-get install grub; grub-install /dev/hda ; update-grub ; done |
| 10:59.05 | jm_ | then you'd need a card which can do it |
| 10:59.05 | amorphix | Guerin: no hdd, no fdd, no cdrom |
| 10:59.09 | Guerin | Thanatermesis: never come across it. I could probably test for it later, but I'm about to go out. |
| 10:59.21 | Guerin | amorphix: /msg dpkg rube goldberg install |
| 10:59.21 | Thanatermesis | ok, thanks... |
| 10:59.28 | Thanatermesis | any person have this problem with mplayer ? |
| 11:00.11 | amorphix | hehe |
| 11:00.12 | werdnaxoc | how do I install a .c and .h |
| 11:00.12 | ColonelKernel | 0how about bill goldberg |
| 11:00.14 | werdnaxoc | ? |
| 11:00.20 | Guerin | werdnaxoc: you don't. |
| 11:00.32 | ColonelKernel | apt-get install bill-goldberg fear-the-spear |
| 11:00.52 | jm_ | amorphix: etherboot, but like I said, you'd need a card and eeprom programator to do it (or find someone with it) |
| 11:00.57 | Luqq | how can i set quota for an user in cmdline? setquota -u [user] and then? |
| 11:01.18 | amorphix | is it possible to boot from a floppy and then use an external storage dev. such as usb or net? |
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| 11:01.30 | amorphix | i have a fdd and hdd, but just dont want to use them as primary storage |
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| 11:01.37 | amorphix | due to power usage |
| 11:01.56 | Guerin | amorphix: once you're booted, you can remove the fdd |
| 11:01.58 | jm_ | yes, you can use GRUB for that |
| 11:02.05 | amorphix | coool |
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| 11:02.15 | Luqq | werdnaxoc: compile it |
| 11:02.21 | werdnaxoc | I did |
| 11:02.24 | werdnaxoc | and I got super errors |
| 11:02.26 | werdnaxoc | with no log |
| 11:02.32 | Luqq | well than it doesnt work |
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| 11:02.35 | Luqq | what errors? |
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| 11:02.45 | werdnaxoc | scratchamp.h:215: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `scratchamp_alloc_iso_channel' |
| 11:02.45 | werdnaxoc | scratchamp.h:215: warning: data definition has no type or storage class |
| 11:02.45 | werdnaxoc | scratchamp.h:220: error: parse error before '*' token |
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| 11:02.52 | werdnaxoc | oops, the list is huge |
| 11:03.01 | berkes | hello folks, any apache mod pam authentication gurus in here? |
| 11:03.01 | berkes | I am trying to get mod_pam working for apache2's webdav on a debian sarge installation |
| 11:03.01 | berkes | but somehow it does not map the users. it just wont let me in. |
| 11:03.03 | liable | amorphix: were you the one talking about having a solar powered computer with just a flash drive? ( quite a while ago ) |
| 11:03.09 | karsten | !ops join spam from SieRRa |
| 11:03.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: join spam from SieRRa |
| 11:03.11 | Luqq | you sure can type fast berkes xD |
| 11:03.28 | berkes | Luqq: i like to have my question in one chunk |
| 11:03.39 | Luqq | i know that feeling |
| 11:03.46 | amorphix | liable: yeah, i finally got round to working on it and have the parts here |
| 11:03.56 | berkes | not spread inbetween solar-powered HDD discussions and such |
| 11:03.56 | Luqq | crowded channel, most questions are everywhere |
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| 11:04.34 | liable | amorphix: cool, good to see its happening. :) |
| 11:04.39 | amorphix | :) |
| 11:04.47 | Luqq | how can i set quota for an user in cmdline? |
| 11:05.20 | karsten | berkes: Just ask, possibly not, try #apache as well. |
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| 11:05.52 | Thanatermesis | any person have the problem with mplayer in fullscreen + zoom mode, "the size of video is more big than your screen" ? |
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| 11:06.11 | berkes | karsten i asked in #apache already, but no luck there |
| 11:06.16 | karsten | Thanatermesis: Buy a bigger screen ;-) |
| 11:06.26 | K_Dallas | Thanatermesis, have you tried to ask it in #mplayer? |
| 11:06.28 | karsten | Thanatermesis: ...are you using a virtual resolution higher than your screensize? |
| 11:06.58 | K_Dallas | Thanatermesis, also check your config file for mplayer |
| 11:07.04 | Thanatermesis | karsten, ¬¬ 17# , I need to understand this problem for packaging an mplayer |
| 11:07.13 | berkes | Thanatermesis: dont tell me you mind zooming in on you pr0n ;) |
| 11:07.15 | Guerin | i've actually HAD mplayer play movies which were bigger than my screen - I just got a crop of the middle |
| 11:07.22 | knj | How do i shutdown X from the prompt? |
| 11:07.29 | Guerin | so that sounds like a confil issue |
| 11:07.30 | tarzeau | knj: pkill -9 X |
| 11:07.31 | Thanatermesis | Im checked the config... no strange parameters |
| 11:07.38 | knj | tarzeau: Thanks. |
| 11:07.41 | Guerin | tarzeau: noooot -9 |
| 11:07.43 | directhex|work | i'd like some video files over 1600x1200 such that they COULD be bigger than the display |
| 11:07.47 | tarzeau | Guerin: hehe :) |
| 11:07.50 | ColonelKernel | thats a whopper of a movie |
| 11:07.51 | amorphix | if i want to have a single login and home filespace shared across a network, whats the best way to do that, with samba? |
| 11:07.53 | Guerin | knj: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 11:08.08 | Guerin | amorphix: with ldap, probably |
| 11:08.12 | amorphix | oh |
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| 11:08.18 | christor | Hello all |
| 11:08.23 | Guerin | !all |
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| 11:08.29 | christor | I have reinstalled the new debian 3.1 |
| 11:08.30 | tarzeau | !hello |
| 11:08.31 | dpkg | Hi, tarzeau! |
| 11:08.36 | liable | whats the big deal about kill -9 anyway? |
| 11:08.36 | christor | but I don t find the packages amule? |
| 11:08.44 | Luqq | christor: why |
| 11:08.44 | tarzeau | christor: it doesn't exist. maybe? |
| 11:08.46 | Guerin | christor: unsurprising. |
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| 11:09.24 | K_Dallas | An Indian researcher has cracked the much-touted "impenetrable" Windows Genuine Advantage of Microsoft. According to Microsoft this service would soon require all Windows users to verify their license before downloading updates." |
| 11:09.24 | christor | I have installed amule on debian 3.0rc3 ... and with the new debian I cant?? |
| 11:09.31 | Guerin | liable: -9 is the tacnuke of kills. It kills anything that can be killed stone dead. |
| 11:09.38 | K_Dallas | christor, why? |
| 11:09.46 | Anders1 | K_Dallas, well... it wasn't very surprising |
| 11:09.55 | K_Dallas | true yet it feels good ;) |
| 11:10.03 | christor | K_Dallas: Luqq because apt-get isntall amule is not existing |
| 11:10.19 | K_Dallas | christor, go to amule site and get their deb package |
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| 11:10.33 | K_Dallas | or maybe add non-free contrib to your sources.list |
| 11:10.42 | michal_ | is there any way to automatically add a list of users to a debian system without it prompting for all the extra info? |
| 11:10.45 | christor | K_Dallas: no deb packages |
| 11:10.50 | christor | only rpm and tar |
| 11:11.01 | kobs | michal_: useradd |
| 11:11.02 | K_Dallas | i dont remember what i did but tru tar |
| 11:11.02 | jm_ | michalato: yes there is |
| 11:11.06 | jm_ | michal_ ^^^^^ |
| 11:11.08 | Guerin | christor: it's not in sarge for some reason. |
| 11:11.25 | Guerin | !tell christor about simple sid backport |
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| 11:11.44 | K_Dallas | christor, or maybe i got it from here ;) |
| 11:11.46 | ColonelKernel | !tell ColonelKernel about simple sid backport |
| 11:11.46 | K_Dallas | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/amule |
| 11:11.46 | michal_ | ahh thanks.. was tring to do it with adduser |
| 11:12.19 | jneves | I wanted to make an audit to a debian system: 1) I want to identify which packages are installed and are not in the repository, 2) which files have been changed from the packaged versions and 3) which files don't belong to any package. Is there such a tool? For 2) I've been using debsums, but not all packages support it. Suggestions? |
| 11:12.44 | michal_ | oh.. it doesn't take useradd < userslist ? |
| 11:12.46 | liable | ColonelKernel: you know you can /msg dpkg? :P |
| 11:12.51 | K_Dallas | christor, oh now i remember, add these to your sources.list: |
| 11:12.53 | K_Dallas | deb http://www.vollstreckernet.de/debian/ testing amule |
| 11:12.53 | K_Dallas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:13.01 | christor | K_Dallas: Yes I have tried |
| 11:13.05 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: bad idea |
| 11:13.05 | christor | but I have an error |
| 11:13.23 | K_Dallas | ok :) it is emule guys, get it anyways you want :) |
| 11:13.33 | K_Dallas | amule* |
| 11:13.34 | jm_ | jneves: 3) look at debfoster ; for 1) try using apt-cache policy or simply grep-available |
| 11:13.59 | jm_ | jneves: sorry, not debfoster but cruft |
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| 11:14.16 | K_Dallas | tarzeau, why? i have not had any problem with those repos |
| 11:14.21 | michal_ | this is valid right? for user in $(cat userslist); do useradd $user; done |
| 11:14.35 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: i discourage everybody to use non-official debian sources |
| 11:14.47 | K_Dallas | ok |
| 11:14.59 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: the often are of lower quality, have no bts, don't work on all archs, have missing sources, disappear or break stuff |
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| 11:15.28 | Guerin | grr, my damn .ICEauthority file keeps getting chowned root:root, preventing users from logging in |
| 11:15.50 | kneet | Guerin, I had that - and I've not identified why |
| 11:15.52 | K_Dallas | Guerin, :) have you installed any strange packages lately? |
| 11:16.00 | denis_ | has anyone had any experience installing debian on an i386 cobalt raq? |
| 11:16.16 | Guerin | K_Dallas: if you call sid and experimental strange, yeah. |
| 11:16.24 | werdnaxoc | what files would I need to be able to use the eth0 ? |
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| 11:16.33 | denis_ | is experimental 'pre-sid'? |
| 11:16.37 | K_Dallas | lol, Guerin so you are the sources of all your miseries ;) |
| 11:16.37 | tarzeau | denis_: no |
| 11:16.47 | tarzeau | denis_: it's an addon to sid, that is optional |
| 11:16.47 | K_Dallas | !lol |
| 11:16.47 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a porn star. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg |
| 11:17.01 | Guerin | denis_: experimental is 'well... it builds... let's see what it does...' |
| 11:17.08 | liable | werdnaxoc: whats the actuall problem? |
| 11:17.15 | denis_ | ahh, "e17" style code ;) |
| 11:17.44 | Guerin | denis_: hehe, I actually have e17 |
| 11:17.44 | tarzeau | K_Dallas: hard to crash if you don't have gnome or kde |
| 11:17.48 | denis_ | me too |
| 11:17.50 | Guerin | denis_: it's horribly broken, too |
| 11:18.07 | denis_ | i was going through identifying and reporting bugs at one stage |
| 11:18.16 | Guerin | denis_: do you find whan you kill x while it's running, the enlightenment process doesn't die, and just keeps eating ram and cpu? |
| 11:18.18 | werdnaxoc | I install final scratch v1.0 and it does not have internet connection |
| 11:18.19 | K_Dallas | i have gnome and had to install kde too :( |
| 11:18.20 | liable | Guerin: do you actually have huge problems with it? (out of interest, wouldnt dream of using experimental myself) |
| 11:18.35 | denis_ | Guerin: yeah i have that too, it's a known bug i think |
| 11:19.15 | kneet | Guerin, are you actually using e17 or just looking at it ? |
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| 11:19.36 | Guerin | liable: not really, but I vet packages carefully, and my apt-dpkg-fu is strong. |
| 11:19.38 | azol | hi all. how can I restore config file of a package to it's original state? apt-get install --reinstall doesn't help :( |
| 11:19.46 | liable | Guerin: hehe |
| 11:19.50 | jm_ | azol: dpkg |
| 11:20.19 | denis_ | i use it, for alpha code, it's pretty good |
| 11:20.41 | Guerin | kneet: i just installed it for a test-run, but I'll put it on at work and really thrash it |
| 11:20.53 | werdnaxoc | how do I find out the Filesystem of a /dev/hda2 ?? |
| 11:20.57 | kneet | I took a look - but didn't dare migrate my main box to it :) |
| 11:21.04 | kneet | Have e16 running here |
| 11:21.07 | chealer | werdnaxoc: try $ mont |
| 11:21.10 | chealer | werdnaxoc: try $ mount |
| 11:21.35 | denis_ | kneet: even for it's huge list of bugs and instabilities, it just blows e16 out of the water |
| 11:21.50 | werdnaxoc | chealer, it is on a /dev Iwant to mount |
| 11:21.50 | denis_ | the theme engine is insane |
| 11:21.52 | kneet | Sure - I was impressed with what I saw - am looking forward to it |
| 11:21.59 | werdnaxoc | Ido not know the FS |
| 11:22.03 | Guerin | kneet: i'm not even a fan of enlightenment ... i just think it's so wildly different in principle from other wms that it's worth a look. |
| 11:22.11 | liable | werdnaxoc: you dont know the file system? |
| 11:22.23 | werdnaxoc | it say |
| 11:22.23 | kneet | Guerin, I find that I migrate back to it each time I try other things |
| 11:22.27 | werdnaxoc | /dev/hda2 75 79 40162+ 83 Linux |
| 11:22.30 | werdnaxoc | under fdisk |
| 11:22.39 | denis_ | i know i'll never leave it |
| 11:22.51 | kneet | Tried kde - nope -> e16. Tried gnome - nope -> e16. Tried xfce - pretty good but not perfect -> e16 |
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| 11:22.56 | werdnaxoc | when I mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 it does not work :( |
| 11:22.57 | denis_ | as long as gnome and kde are the way they are |
| 11:23.03 | denis_ | i'll never leave enlightenment ;) |
| 11:23.08 | werdnaxoc | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, |
| 11:23.08 | werdnaxoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.22 | jm_ | werdnaxoc: so remove -t ext2 and try again, then load more modules and tyr again ... |
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| 11:23.40 | werdnaxoc | load more modules? |
| 11:23.41 | kneet | apropos e16 - any way to support gnome notification? xfce had some support (thinking about gnome-phone-manager) - haven't found an app/epplet for e16 that provides this |
| 11:24.02 | denis_ | you could try using a kernel compiled with automounter support |
| 11:24.19 | liable | werdnaxoc: 83 is ext3 |
| 11:24.41 | werdnaxoc | t# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 |
| 11:24.41 | werdnaxoc | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, |
| 11:24.41 | werdnaxoc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:25.23 | jm_ | stop pasting |
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| 11:26.06 | wols_ | werdnaxoc: try without the "-t" option |
| 11:26.08 | werdnaxoc | can you force a mount? |
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| 11:26.49 | wols_ | liable: type83 is any linux fs, no matter which one. my reiserfs partitions are 83 too |
| 11:26.59 | wols_ | in fact, partition type is a pretty meaningless number |
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| 11:27.21 | werdnaxoc | is there a way to find otu what the exact FS is on the partition? |
| 11:27.24 | wols_ | werdnaxoc: if it's no ext2 fs no forcing in all the world will help you |
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| 11:27.38 | denis_ | yeah, technically, you can take any partition type number, and make any fs type on it, though obviously that's not recommended |
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| 11:28.00 | werdnaxoc | I want to know what FS they used for the install |
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| 11:28.05 | denis_ | wols_: does your kernel support ext2/ext3? |
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| 11:28.28 | denis_ | or reiserfs |
| 11:28.42 | liable | werdnaxoc: what about -t auto? |
| 11:28.48 | werdnaxoc | hmmm |
| 11:28.52 | werdnaxoc | cool |
| 11:29.03 | streuner | simonrvn: are you here? |
| 11:29.13 | werdnaxoc | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 11:29.13 | kneet | denis_, do you use entrance? |
| 11:29.13 | wols_ | denis_: yes it does (at least I hope so) |
| 11:29.19 | wols_ | I don#t use ext2 however |
| 11:29.39 | wols_ | currently my sarge uses xfs and sid uses reiser |
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| 11:29.46 | cahoot | werdnaxoc: does /proc/filesystems list ext2|3? |
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| 11:30.11 | denis_ | kneet: hell yes, it's the reason why i got so interested in e17 code |
| 11:30.21 | Coke | wols_: what are the advantages of xfs compared to ext3? |
| 11:30.40 | wols_ | Coke: it's for big files |
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| 11:30.52 | sep | Coke: one word ! xfs-restore |
| 11:30.54 | kneet | denis_, never got that to play correctly as the default login manager on my sacrificial box :) |
| 11:30.54 | werdnaxoc | cahoot, yes + cramfs |
| 11:30.54 | werdnaxoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.55 | GregM | how can i run lilo from a rescue disk . Is it wrong to do it from chroot? |
| 11:30.56 | K_Dallas | is there a command to give you GMT ? |
| 11:31.03 | denis_ | wasn't XFS derived/created from SGI? |
| 11:31.06 | wols_ | sep: and working defrag |
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| 11:31.12 | Coke | wols_: how big? |
| 11:31.19 | wols_ | denis_: sgi still writes it |
| 11:31.25 | denis_ | kneet: the cvs code varies |
| 11:31.32 | denis_ | i have some old stable code here |
| 11:31.35 | kneet | Heh |
| 11:31.39 | vorsprung | K_Dallas, TZ=GMT date |
| 11:31.40 | denis_ | not a lot has changed in it really, atleast on the public face |
| 11:31.40 | werdnaxoc | nodev devfs |
| 11:31.48 | wols_ | Coke: bigger than your harddisk is :) |
| 11:31.53 | K_Dallas | vorsprung, thanks |
| 11:32.03 | denis_ | wols_: i have an old indy here |
| 11:32.05 | Coke | wols_: yeah, I was thinking more like, it uses 64-bit addressing? |
| 11:32.14 | kneet | This was a deb archive from an external site - like I said - it's a sacrifical box :) |
| 11:32.24 | wols_ | GregM: it's right. boot a live CD and chroot the terminal to your mounted harddisk partition for example |
| 11:32.24 | kneet | Just wanted a quick look at it |
| 11:32.34 | denis_ | kneet: if you join the e17 channel here, talk to the debian package guy there |
| 11:32.38 | wols_ | Coke: afaik yes |
| 11:32.48 | wols_ | but since I don't have a disk that large... |
| 11:33.01 | denis_ | he runs his own private deb repository, and his packages are usually pretty stable/functional |
| 11:33.09 | kneet | denis_, you're getting me seriously tempted to try for e17 on my work box - do I dare? do I dare? :) |
| 11:33.28 | denis_ | kneet: i've never had a version that wouldn't work |
| 11:33.31 | cahoot | werdnaxoc: so your kernel supports ext2|3 - either the partition is corrput or it's some other fs |
| 11:33.41 | denis_ | it may require some...'fine adjustment' |
| 11:33.51 | Agrajag- | Guerin: you still about? i just got around to installing those packages in that list - this is what i get: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=3945 |
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| 11:34.37 | Agrajag- | not sure how to go about fixing that |
| 11:34.52 | Coke | wols_: ext3 can handle that too |
| 11:34.58 | kneet | denis_, are you using the debs from the guy you mentioned? |
| 11:35.07 | denis_ | kneet: sometimes i do |
| 11:35.08 | wols_ | Coke: I know |
| 11:35.23 | Coke | wols_: 2TB, but there's a patch to get > 2TB as well. |
| 11:35.29 | wols_ | and so can every other fs worth 5 pennies |
| 11:35.36 | denis_ | i usually run raw cvs code, but sometimes it won't compile, so i will substitute bits from the deb packages as required |
| 11:35.37 | knj_ | I have just installed X... But I dont seem to have any menu at the bottom of the screen. Should I install some kind of package to have this? And which? |
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| 11:36.00 | wols_ | afaik xfs can handle bigger sizes, but who cares? no 2TB disks yet, and damn few arrys of that sort |
| 11:36.01 | Coke | wols_: yeah. but xfs seem to have near unlimited. |
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| 11:36.08 | werdnaxoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.43 | mathieu_ | werdnaxoc, fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 11:36.48 | wols_ | werdnaxoc: trype less /dev/hda1 |
| 11:36.54 | wols_ | e.g. my XFS one starts with "XFS" |
| 11:37.06 | mathieu_ | fdisk is a bit easier :) |
| 11:37.12 | GregM | wols ive tried and it complains .. device driver amp missing |
| 11:37.13 | wols_ | mathieu_: and doesn't show shit |
| 11:37.25 | GregM | driver map i should say |
| 11:37.30 | wols_ | type 83 linux is cool, but it doesn't say if it's xfs,reiser or ext3 |
| 11:37.38 | liable | werdnaxoc: why dont you tell us exactly what are you doing. Why dont you have any idea? |
| 11:37.39 | Coke | wols_: 8EB according to some specs I found. that's pretty big. :) |
| 11:37.49 | mathieu_ | wols_, oh true, sorry |
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| 11:39.01 | Agrajag- | if you know it's one of those 3.. why not try mounting it and see which works? |
| 11:39.04 | wols_ | GregM: don't use lilo, so can't say why it needs the device.map (well I can guess). But since you already have lilo installed it's a bit puzzling why it wouldn't be there |
| 11:39.10 | werdnaxoc | Iam trying to access a filesystem from a install of Final Scratch |
| 11:39.18 | werdnaxoc | I think Ifor got to mkfs of the partiation |
| 11:39.39 | wols_ | werdnaxoc: what does /less /dev/hda1 say? |
| 11:40.00 | gudi | hi |
| 11:40.17 | mathieu_ | maybe head would be better that less |
| 11:40.23 | gudi | i create PAckages.gz for my pacckages but when i try to : apt-get update i get : |
| 11:40.24 | gudi | gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file |
| 11:40.32 | gudi | what is the problem ? |
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| 11:41.16 | wols_ | corrupt packages.gz file |
| 11:41.48 | werdnaxoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.53 | gudi | wols_, i create it with : |
| 11:41.54 | gudi | apt-ftparchive packages debian/pool/byteaction/ | gzip > debian/dists/sarge/byteaction/binary-i386/Packages.gz |
| 11:42.05 | gudi | and i can read it with zless |
| 11:42.26 | wols_ | werdnaxoc: sorry, without the learding / |
| 11:42.28 | wols_ | less /dev/hda1 |
| 11:42.47 | Pingu12- | php echo of 12864 charackters: runtime: 0,0008sec // php echo of only ONE MORE char: runtime: 0.08sec |
| 11:42.51 | Pingu12- | any ideas ? |
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| 11:43.28 | wols_ | Pingu12-: some buffer flows over and necessitates some operation which appens to be expensive (swap, mem alloc, etc) |
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| 11:44.40 | Pingu12- | sounds like a good reason - yes. I just don know yet which buffer this can be |
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| 11:44.51 | liable | wols_: thats a funky command, how can you make any sense of what comes out of it? (less /hdax) |
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| 11:47.07 | jneves | jm_: thanks a lot |
| 11:47.15 | jm_ | jneves: np |
| 11:47.23 | Taya | Hi, I need help setting up debian mirror... |
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| 11:47.37 | streuner | Taya: locally |
| 11:47.39 | streuner | ? |
| 11:47.45 | nakee | apt-listbugs give a lot of nfs errors about not being able to erase files |
| 11:47.52 | nakee | is it a known bug? |
| 11:47.57 | nakee | or where can I check it?:) |
| 11:48.01 | streuner | !own repo |
| 11:48.01 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
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| 11:48.18 | Taya | streuner: Hi, yes, I want to set-up unofficial debian mirror, cause we don't have any in my country... |
| 11:48.29 | Taya | streuner: can you help me do that? |
| 11:48.42 | streuner | Taya: look what dpkg told you |
| 11:48.52 | liable | wols_: not ripping the piss, trying to decipher it. |
| 11:49.27 | chealer | !tell nakee about bts |
| 11:49.41 | Taya | o, I will try now, thanks ;) |
| 11:49.44 | Taya | o=ok |
| 11:49.48 | streuner | Taya: but besides, if you mix ubuntu packages with debian you'll get headaces ;-) |
| 11:50.20 | Taya | well, actually, I wanted to set up ubuntu mirror.. but as I could not get help in ubuntu channel I went here... |
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| 11:50.59 | jm_ | Taya: now we have added your nickname and IP to ignore_ubuntu_users[] array |
| 11:51.06 | streuner | s/headaces/headaches/ |
| 11:51.21 | Shorty` | *skuffs dirt* |
| 11:51.24 | Shorty` | I'm an ubuntu user :/ |
| 11:51.26 | Shorty` | but but but |
| 11:51.32 | Shorty` | debian user for like 8 years :/ |
| 11:51.47 | Taya | why? |
| 11:51.57 | streuner | !ubuntusmite Shorty` |
| 11:52.07 | tarzeau | Taya: a/s/l? |
| 11:52.12 | jm_ | because you can't use google |
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| 11:52.41 | Taya | jm_: Yes I know, but I want to do it fast.. |
| 11:52.53 | liable | Shorty`: out of interest, after using debian for 8 years, why use ubuntu? |
| 11:53.12 | jm_ | Taya: reading any of the several howtos for creating custom repositries takes 2 minutes |
| 11:53.37 | Toadstool | jm_: why don't you call your array ignore_those_who_dont_know_howto_use_google[] instead ? |
| 11:53.41 | Taya | I don't want to do repositories, I want mirror.. |
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| 11:54.06 | Taya | I already did repositories, but I want to have mirror with all automatic updatable packages |
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| 11:54.33 | Taya | tarzeau: */*/Georgia |
| 11:54.40 | sep | Taya: apt-mirror.sf.net for a mirror, apt-proxy for a on the fly mirror |
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| 11:54.56 | jm_ | Toadstool: well those have its own array |
| 11:54.57 | Toadstool | 'cause ubuntu is a great distro for people who don't want to apt-get a whole bunch of strange packages (for noobs) to my mind ^^ |
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| 11:55.16 | takatumi | Toadstool: try aptitude or tasksel |
| 11:55.18 | wols_ | liable: it's just the bytes as they are on disk. Usually you can see from the first sector of a disk what kind of filesystem it has |
| 11:55.37 | directhex|work | http://www.debian.org/mirror/push_mirroring.en.html |
| 11:55.53 | Toadstool | takatumi: try to explain aptitude or tasksel to my mom :p |
| 11:56.00 | wols_ | most filesystems write some sort of signature, usually their name in there |
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| 11:56.06 | liable | wols_: yeah, looking, cant make heads or tails of it. Clues? |
| 11:56.12 | jm_ | wols_: not ext3 |
| 11:56.16 | tarzeau | Toadstool: what's the phone number? |
| 11:56.20 | Toadstool | :D |
| 11:56.24 | wols_ | liable: depends on the filesystem. what clues do you want? |
| 11:56.41 | knj_ | Why does X makes me feel like killing myself? |
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| 11:57.01 | takatumi | Toadstool: synaptic then |
| 11:57.21 | liable | wols_: well, I got ext3, and what clues would that give. |
| 11:57.26 | Taya | sep: thx |
| 11:57.42 | wols_ | liable: of course less is not the best command to display random bytes which can be control characters. but it's the only thing I could be sure of that it's installed |
| 11:57.47 | takatumi | knj: because 'X' marks the spot. |
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| 11:58.25 | wols_ | basically you'd look for cleartext of any sort |
| 11:58.42 | wols_ | since I don't use ext? and haven't for a long time, I can't say |
| 11:58.55 | nvz | well I guess I should get out and start doing some footwork for LeetLUG. I want to register as an NPO, I don't know that most LUGs do that, but I am going to. Work on finding a meeting place, some staff, and whatnot :P |
| 11:59.07 | Toadstool | takatumi: synaptic works well but it requires a functional x server, and that is not trivial to install for beginners |
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| 11:59.36 | liable | wols_: hmm, ok. Looked through all the text and cant see anything obvious, which was why I asked. |
| 11:59.37 | chealer | Toadstool: $ tasksel |
| 11:59.50 | wols_ | liable: can you paste the output somewhere? |
| 11:59.59 | liable | wols_: sure one sec |
| 12:00.11 | wols_ | nvz: why "leet"lug? won't that put off the "common man" you strive for? |
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| 12:00.54 | kneet | denis_, how accurate does http://70.33.41.3:8080/E17/E17_on_Debian_Sid.html look? I'm not going to have time to play with CVS versions for the time being |
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| 12:01.26 | nvz | wols_: heh, well thats just what its called :P I've already registered it with chanserv yesturday I just now set the Welcome Message, topic, and channel modes, and asked chanserv to sit in and keep the channel active |
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| 12:03.03 | nvz | wols_: I am not sure about the whole NPO thing, but a lot of my ideas seem say that becomming an NPO wouldnt hurt. I figure it would allow the companies I will be hitting up for donations of hardware and money and shit to make a legit writeoff |
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| 12:03.40 | liable | wols: http://liable.mine.nu/less.txt |
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| 12:04.09 | nvz | I got to see when in my plan that becomes more nessicary than it is trouble |
| 12:04.20 | wols | liable: timeout |
| 12:04.20 | greyson | nvz: Hehe... you're thinking well into this. When you mentioned it yesterday (day before?) I thought it was a passing fancy... Now I wish I lived in Leet. |
| 12:04.56 | wols | Ah, Leet is a town? hehe, I thought it was some for of leetspeak |
| 12:05.00 | wols | sorry, my mistake :) |
| 12:05.02 | nvz | greyson: haha.. well I have been talking for years since I found my linux love, debian.. about getting more involved. I think this is a great place to start |
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| 12:05.39 | nvz | greyson: instead of trying to make it to conferences, expos..etc right away, I will try bring the local general public and businesses to me, and show them what linux has to offer |
| 12:06.25 | msumu_piti_gnou | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk/ |
| 12:06.25 | msumu_piti_gnou | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, |
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| 12:07.07 | nvz | greyson: once I get people interested I will have help with where I want to go from there. right now its just me, and nobody around here really knows what linux is.. so I figure I need to spark the fuse and see what happens |
| 12:07.10 | Coke | wols: l337 |
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| 12:07.56 | Coke | nvz: in what backwaters of civilisation do you work? |
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| 12:08.25 | nvz | Coke: its just a little area known as the Quaker Valley, just north of Pittsburgh |
| 12:08.30 | greyson | nvz: Definitely a good way to do it.. especially since a LUG is, by nature, a localized thing. After there's a big enough group, then you can start thinking about starting to host convos etc... actually, if you heard about NotACon in Cleveland (hacker/music conv) I know the people that organized that, and could probably get you in touch with some first-hand experiencers of the process. |
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| 12:09.26 | Coke | nvz: around here the jobs where you can do without unix-type knowledge are getting fewer and fewer |
| 12:09.29 | wols | this ROOOOT guy is a strange one: he never takes off, only lands |
| 12:09.49 | kneet | denis_, well - that didn't go so well - /usr/bin/enlightenment: relocation error: /usr/bin/enlightenment: undefined symbol: ECORE_X_EVENT_SYNC_ALARM |
| 12:10.11 | nvz | Coke: for the most part the general public around here isnt really tech-savvy and surely doesnt know what the hell GNU/Linux is |
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| 12:10.27 | nvz | Coke: thats going to change, if I can help it |
| 12:11.00 | _dw | Hi guys. On trying to dpk-reconfigure x, I'm getting debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
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| 12:11.07 | _dw | Any idea what I could do? |
| 12:11.07 | greyson | nvz: When, of course, you're ready to host :) |
| 12:11.16 | Coke | nvz: good. well, the public here is unaware, but then again I'd estimate that 99% of the people do not know how electricity work either, so... |
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| 12:11.50 | K_Dallas | Coke, and 70% of french think that sun turns around the earth ;) |
| 12:12.06 | Hikaru79 | I'm trying to install Debian from the set of DVD images, but during the install at the stage "Loading Debian Installer Components," it fails at 98% and says that it couldn't load something. And I checked CD-ROM integrity and md5sum of the image, and they're both correct. Is there some known issue with the DVD sets? |
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| 12:12.12 | liable | wols: ok, try again. |
| 12:12.13 | nvz | yeah, I need to get some webspace and register the domain name.. thats another big step. but I want to look into NPO status and possible fundrasing options to see if I can talk someone else into paying for it first |
| 12:12.15 | Coke | K_Dallas: no, those are called religious zealots |
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| 12:12.25 | Coke | K_Dallas: or republicans, in the US |
| 12:12.26 | K_Dallas | in france? i doubt it |
| 12:13.06 | greyson | nvz: If you're looking for webspace, let me know, my machines aren't the fastest, but if you can't find anything else for the short termp |
| 12:13.20 | nvz | I know just the people too.. heh I've got this friend I went to school with, who could sell you a pile of feces as a cell phone, and you would buy it. You would like it. You would try to use it as a cell phone, and you would get shit in your ear. And you would be satisfied |
| 12:13.26 | chealer | _dw: dpk-reconfigure x won't work, but check for other dpkg or dpkg-related processes running |
| 12:13.45 | greyson | And they're running debian/sparc sarge :D |
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| 12:14.02 | Coke | nvz: sounds like the avarage voter to me. :) |
| 12:14.17 | nvz | then my other friend's sister is a publicist for a jewish fundraising company.. she's definatly able to work people |
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| 12:15.14 | greyson | nvz: Not to mention... the cool-factor of being able to say "Yeah, I hosted LeetLUG's site for a while." |
| 12:15.36 | nvz | I have to talk seriously with a lot of vision to as many people as possible to get this ball rolling |
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| 12:16.19 | nvz | specifically the people like I mentioned that are likely to be able to manipulate people into funding the organization |
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| 12:16.38 | Hikaru79 | I'm trying to install Debian from the set of DVD images, but during the install at the stage "Loading Debian Installer Components," it fails at 98% and says that it couldn't load something. And I checked CD-ROM integrity and md5sum of the image, and they're both correct. Is there some known issue with the DVD sets? |
| 12:16.59 | wols | liable: very interesting. seems ext3 doesn't use the first sector at all for meta info. uses probably only middle of the partition for that stuff (but it also has several backup copies of superblock around IIRC) |
| 12:17.00 | nvz | I am not going to let funding hold me up though.. I am going to try start holding free meet and greets as soon as I've got people with hands to shake, and stuff to show people. |
| 12:17.08 | greycat | "it couldn't load something". |
| 12:17.09 | Coke | Hikaru79: what dist is it? |
| 12:17.13 | dbron | Hi all, I am looking for the best terminal in X. I have tried Konsole, xterm and several others and the best match so far I have found is multi-gnome-terminal. Being able to do keybindings to associate keyboard macro's with terminal input is high on my list. Anyone have any suggestions about others to try? |
| 12:17.25 | Hikaru79 | Coke, what do you mean? Debian of course. |
| 12:17.34 | Coke | !dpkg best |
| 12:17.34 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 12:17.49 | Hikaru79 | lol |
| 12:17.57 | wols | Hikaru79: sarge, etch or sid he means |
| 12:18.01 | Coke | Hikaru79: what dist as in woody, sarge, etch or sid? |
| 12:18.01 | Hikaru79 | Ooh |
| 12:18.02 | Hikaru79 | Sarge |
| 12:18.03 | dbron | Coke: I know that factoid, that is why I qualified the statement |
| 12:18.06 | Hikaru79 | The new stable. |
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| 12:18.17 | Coke | Hikaru79: did you DL it as "stable" or as a release candidate? |
| 12:18.17 | Delph | dbron: there isn't one. |
| 12:18.19 | nvz | I think the public library will be where we will hold our meetings initally. I dont know if I can get them to let me host an install-fest there, but we'll see, they do have ethernet jacks on every table, and public internet access |
| 12:18.23 | Coke | Hikaru79: how old is it? |
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| 12:19.13 | liable | wols: ok. no probs, just wondering if it was something I couldnt see. |
| 12:19.24 | Delph | nvz: in that case it's always worth having a small stack of cd's with the latest packages, say? I doubt the library will want you either burning bandwidth, nor want you to set up an apt-proxy or something. |
| 12:19.24 | Hikaru79 | Let me check |
| 12:19.34 | Coke | dbron: keyboard macros are not really connected to the x terminal |
| 12:19.58 | greyson | nvz: Nice. If you can get people meeting there, they might also be open to acquiring some books that you can put out on display during the meets -- they'd probably love to get more tech-savvy people around. |
| 12:19.58 | Hikaru79 | I was using this: debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 12:20.03 | nvz | I've really got to get out and do the footwork now, thats all thats holding me up at the moment. this was just an idea a day or two ago.. we could be in business as soon as I can spread the word, and arrange a time and place |
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| 12:20.10 | Coke | Hikaru79: hm. wait a minute. this is the full DVD version, right? it's not one of those that require network for downloading some components? |
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| 12:20.22 | Hikaru79 | Coke, yes. It was the set of 2 dVd images |
| 12:20.30 | Hikaru79 | Theoretically, no network connection required |
| 12:20.33 | tom22 | hi all, I have an gigabit ethernet adapter with the realtek8169s chipset under sarge (2.6). At home (100Mbps switch) it works fine. at the office with a 3com 1000 switch it doesen't work and shows up as 100 Mbps. has anybody an idea? |
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| 12:20.39 | Coke | Hikaru79: because I got that error when the kernel changed when sarge was "testing". |
| 12:20.43 | Hikaru79 | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 12:20.52 | Hikaru79 | Hm |
| 12:20.53 | _dw | chealer: any idea I can find out which one it is? I get the same error message even when logging into failsafe terminal... |
| 12:20.54 | dbron | Coke: mgt allows you to associate macro's with input, when the window has focus, it translates the input. KDE has attempted that function on a higher level, but is sucks/ |
| 12:21.00 | Coke | Hikaru79: so the only thing I can think of is data corruption. |
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| 12:21.19 | Hikaru79 | Coke, but the md5sums check out, and the "Check CD Integrity" installer check both are fine |
| 12:21.20 | nvz | greyson: well Sewickley library is more of a kids or high-school type library, but we do have inter-library-loan programs with over 70 libraries in the area, including CLPHG (Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh) and others which are more serious libraries |
| 12:21.27 | Coke | dbron: OK. I bind all my keys on wm-level, never tried it on X term level. |
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| 12:22.15 | Zta | How do I return a string from a shell script that has been executed (not sourced)? I've tried export MYVAR, but it doesn't seem to leave the script and get added into my shell. |
| 12:22.21 | Coke | Hikaru79: yes, so you told us. but still... what is it that can't be loaded? |
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| 12:22.36 | greyson | nvz: Definitely cool. |
| 12:22.38 | Hikaru79 | Oi, I should have written down the name :( |
| 12:22.43 | Hikaru79 | it ended with "utils" ^ ^;; |
| 12:22.48 | ohad | hi, i am trying to compile my own kernel and I'm stuck in the last phase of it (or so i think) -- i am using this doc -- http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/ --- when trying to run at the end -- make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image (inside my new kernel dir) i get the following error cp: cannot stat `arch/i386/boot/bzImage': No such file or directory |
| 12:22.51 | Coke | dbron: I use rxvt because it is extremely small, but I've experienced some UTF-8 problems with it before. |
| 12:23.00 | nvz | Delph: the library or the school district had better want to go along with any ideas I come up with.. I am pissed enough at them to begin with. They will make good use of that grant money they got, or I will use my political influences to make them squeal. |
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| 12:23.28 | Delph | ohad: why do you need to compile your own kernel? Just use the debian packages, and be happy =:) |
| 12:23.48 | _dw | Hi, I'm getting debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
| 12:23.49 | ohad | I thought that in the process of creating a .deb kernel and installing it it will generate a bzImage |
| 12:23.50 | dbron | Coke: for me, I need the function only in the term. I have a number of queries and bash scripts that I have to paste frequently. UTF-8 issues aren't such a big deal to me. I generally only get Latin-1, I don't know that I have used rxvt, I will take a look at it. |
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| 12:23.57 | _dw | how can I find out what's using it so I can kill it? |
| 12:24.03 | Thumann | hi ppl! :) anyone running linux on a dell server? |
| 12:24.09 | denis_ | yup |
| 12:24.13 | tzafrir | ohad, this is not exactly the final stage. It seems the kernel image build has failed |
| 12:24.16 | dbron | Coke: thanks for the help |
| 12:24.18 | denis_ | i run debian on a dual xeon poweredge 2650 |
| 12:24.26 | Coke | dbron: regarding the macros, ever tried using environment variables or save the scripts in executable files that are in your PATH? |
| 12:24.27 | ohad | Delph, well.. i am trying to get apm or acpi to work on my laptop - i want to use the suspend function |
| 12:24.29 | denis_ | Thumann: what do you need help with? |
| 12:24.29 | tzafrir | What command did you run? |
| 12:24.40 | Thumann | denis_: my syslog is spammed with this.. |
| 12:24.46 | nvz | anyhow I am going to get out and toss some ideas around, look for something to get into. LeetLUG is in progress |
| 12:25.23 | ohad | tzafrir, it did not spit and errors tho. |
| 12:25.32 | Thumann | Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 21 on CPU 0. |
| 12:25.32 | Thumann | Dazed and confused, but trying to continue |
| 12:25.32 | Thumann | Do you have a strange power saving mode enabled? |
| 12:25.33 | dbron | Coke: don't know if that will work for me, I need to direct the output to a box connected with an ssh session |
| 12:25.33 | tzafrir | ohad, have you managed to get http://swsusp2.sf.net/ patch to apply to a debian kernel source or are you using a vanilla kernel? |
| 12:25.37 | ohad | tzafrir, why compiling the kernel |
| 12:25.53 | Thumann | denis_: like 30-40 lines pr. sec.. so the logfile is getting big! :D |
| 12:25.53 | Coke | dbron: oh, you can always use emacs as a shell. it has all possibilities to bind keys. |
| 12:25.57 | nvz | I am going to work on buttering up the library, and see how I can make this just as beneficial for them as it would be for everyone else involved |
| 12:26.12 | Coke | dbron: hm. ok, that sounds akward. how come? |
| 12:26.14 | dbron | Coke: I do some things with expect, but only very specific taks |
| 12:26.18 | dbron | tasks |
| 12:26.20 | denis_ | Thumann: which dell server is it? what specs? |
| 12:26.45 | Thumann | poweredge 750 |
| 12:26.47 | Luqq | hey, i have an problem using useradd. when i use "useradd -p lol lol" it doesnt work. the password is incorrect. webmin says its pre-encrypted and after that there is the plaintext password. Any suggestions? |
| 12:26.49 | tzafrir | ohad, what is it exactly you were saying? |
| 12:27.02 | ohad | tzafrir, i am running sarge - i have tried to impliment the swsup path without succe. i read that it will be easier to just enable the apm driver in my kernel |
| 12:27.04 | dbron | Coke: it is awkward. I work on alot of remote boxes running mysql. The same queries frequently... |
| 12:27.06 | tzafrir | And what make-kpkg command did you run? |
| 12:27.23 | Coke | dbron: ah, so you're usualy in the mysql CLI? |
| 12:27.31 | migma | in what file is the DocumentRoot setting found in apache2? |
| 12:27.32 | tzafrir | ohad, apm? is that an old laptop? newer systems use acpi |
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| 12:27.42 | dbron | Coke: frequently, but there is a good mix of bash |
| 12:27.48 | tzafrir | swsusp2 works nicely here |
| 12:27.51 | Coke | dbron: you could use environment variables and execute your SQL from BASH instead of the MySQL CLI. |
| 12:27.57 | migma | (in sarge) |
| 12:28.08 | dbron | Coke: I use mysql -Asse alot |
| 12:28.13 | chealer | migma: try greping /etc/apache2 |
| 12:28.15 | Coke | dbron: make an alias for the mysql CLI that executes the query as an argument to the command. |
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| 12:28.19 | Coke | dbron: yeah. |
| 12:28.37 | ohad | tzafrir, make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
| 12:28.38 | Coke | dbron: and then you could probably use $SQL_SOME_QUERY and you can just $SQL_S<tab> to complete it. |
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| 12:29.07 | tzafrir | ohad, I also don't believe apm supports a real to-disk suspend |
| 12:29.13 | Coke | dbron: so, it's a few more key strokes than a macro, I can pressume, but it's better than writing the query over and over. |
| 12:29.14 | dbron | Coke: But then I have to set the variables on every box, that isn't so pleasant, it messes up the bash history |
| 12:29.22 | ohad | tzafrir, it's an ibm thinkpad (pretty new) - according to others who installed debian on their x40 thinkpad - apm works outofthebox |
| 12:29.27 | Coke | dbron: no. oh, wait, you don't have a distributed home directory. |
| 12:29.35 | dbron | Coke: correct |
| 12:30.01 | Coke | dbron: and ssh can't forward env vars. |
| 12:30.03 | tzafrir | ohad, you want suspend-to-disk, right? |
| 12:30.04 | Thumann | denis_: poweredge 750 |
| 12:30.10 | ohad | tzafrir, yes |
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| 12:30.19 | dbron | Coke: right, thus the macro urgency |
| 12:30.24 | dbron | gmt does it well |
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| 12:30.29 | ohad | tzafrir, i want to be able to close the lid and send my machine to suspend mode |
| 12:30.50 | Coke | dbron: well. you are in a pickle then. |
| 12:30.59 | tzafrir | So either ask the bios to do that or use software-suspend |
| 12:31.15 | Coke | dbron: oh, maybe rxvt will allow you to add macros |
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| 12:31.41 | Learn | Meh, Who says I can't chat under root ? |
| 12:31.46 | tzafrir | for the bios you'll need a special partition in a specific place on the disk. There's a package on debian to create it. For this you probably need normal ACPI support |
| 12:32.30 | tzafrir | Learn, nobody. However it will prevent you from doing silly things like !rm -rf / |
| 12:32.34 | ohad | tzafrir, i've asked my bios. it won't comply :/ |
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| 12:32.43 | dbron | Coke: I will try it, I am now just looking for other popular X terms to try as well. I would think that gmt isn't the only one. Anyway, thanks again. |
| 12:32.50 | Thumann | Learn: you shouldn't use root as your normal user |
| 12:33.04 | dbron | Coke: mgt rather |
| 12:33.06 | Learn | tzafrir, however I wan't voiced - and I wasn't root I just set my ident to root |
| 12:33.14 | Learn | wasn't* |
| 12:33.45 | nakee | sometimes rm -rf / seems very tempting... |
| 12:34.01 | Learn | rm -rf /home seems more logical too me |
| 12:34.26 | dbron | greycat: do you use an xterm? |
| 12:34.30 | nakee | I need to get union file system to work |
| 12:34.49 | tzafrir | software suspend is probably the best route. An older version is already merged in the kernel |
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| 12:35.00 | tzafrir | swsusp2 is nicer, though |
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| 12:37.21 | greycat | dbron: I usually use rxvt |
| 12:37.47 | dbron | greycat: k, thanks |
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| 12:41.00 | LordWolF | sup all |
| 12:42.02 | Learn | LordWolF: Hey |
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| 12:43.51 | Speech | hi |
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| 12:44.55 | Speech | i was told before that when i need to host some domains from my box, i have to install the thttpd on the root and change the name server from the domain, well i installed the thttpd and nothing changed, it didnot add the var or www dirs in the root, need someone help please, ty |
| 12:45.16 | deviant | guys, how can i access a computer from my network, runing windows2k ? |
| 12:45.31 | Learn | deviant: Samba |
| 12:45.53 | deviant | Learn: can u be more specific please |
| 12:46.08 | jungle | Deviant: or through RDP |
| 12:46.17 | wols | Learn: smaba is for providing access. for getting it, you need smbmount |
| 12:46.31 | deviant | jungle: RDP ? |
| 12:46.39 | dawg | deviant, the smbfs package might help |
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| 12:46.49 | Speech | someone help me please |
| 12:46.50 | Learn | wols: I thinks he want to do both |
| 12:46.52 | Speech | i was told before that when i need to host some domains from my box, i have to install the thttpd on the root and change the name server from the domain, well i installed the thttpd and nothing changed, it didnot add the var or www dirs in the root, need someone help please, ty |
| 12:47.05 | jungle | deviant: remote desktop.. thats for "controlling" the machine... samba is for accessing the files.. depends on what you want |
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| 12:47.28 | deviant | jungle: i just want to access the files on that computer |
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| 12:47.58 | jungle | deviant: then you should use samba, which will enable you to create shares and access them like you can in an all-windows environment |
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| 12:48.12 | deviant | jungle: and how do i do that ? |
| 12:48.16 | greyson | wtf... I've got some strange grey box that keeps drifting around on firefox and then disappearing... |
| 12:48.21 | Learn | deviant: apt-get install smbclient |
| 12:48.29 | jungle | deviant, like learn said :) |
| 12:48.29 | anabain | which prog is good for sending faxes? |
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| 12:48.47 | Speech | wtf |
| 12:48.50 | Speech | someone answer me. |
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| 12:49.16 | FieldySnuts | Speech: demanding from volunteers usually won't sit well with them. relax. |
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| 12:49.17 | deviant | Learn: i allready have that package installed |
| 12:49.25 | AlphaUser | I'm running Gnome, and my mousewheel (scroll up and down) both scroll down... anyone ever had this problem? |
| 12:49.27 | Learn | Speech: Why - maybe we don't know how to fix your problem |
| 12:49.38 | Speech | i was told before that when i need to host some domains from my box, i have to install the thttpd on the root and change the name server from the domain, well i installed the thttpd and nothing changed, it didnot add the var or www dirs in the root, need someone help please, ty |
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| 12:49.40 | Learn | deviant: then you want help accessing it ? |
| 12:49.41 | Speech | ~~~!!!~~~ |
| 12:49.46 | jharrisonwk | Speech: the lights are out and no one is home |
| 12:49.50 | Delph | Speech: well, i can say 'read the man pages / the manual', but ten will get you twenty that you wont want to do it, or you'll just get annoyed. |
| 12:49.50 | FieldySnuts | !tell Speech about repeating |
| 12:49.51 | deviant | Learn: yes |
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| 12:49.57 | jelly | [OT] viruses or virii? |
| 12:50.05 | greycat | viruses |
| 12:50.09 | Speech | ;/ |
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| 12:50.11 | Speech | iam lost |
| 12:50.13 | Speech | :! |
| 12:50.18 | greycat | virii would be the plural of virius if that were a word, which it isn't. |
| 12:50.20 | nkuttler | Speech: try asking shorter, precise questions. |
| 12:50.26 | deviant | Learn: when i go to Network Server, i can`t see any computer there |
| 12:50.38 | FieldySnuts | he's already annoye dhalf of us, /ignore speech*!*@* all or similar |
| 12:50.43 | Learn | deviant: Alright, I'm not very good at thing since I run an all Unix network... |
| 12:50.49 | jharrisonwk | Speech: have you bothered to read any documentation on this thttpd? |
| 12:50.55 | jungle | deviant, i dont know, but maybe you should try: apt-get install smbfs |
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| 12:51.14 | Delph | Speech: see /usr/share/doc/thttpd, maybe ? |
| 12:51.17 | sep | Speech: read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/thttpd |
| 12:51.22 | deviant | jungle: i have that too |
| 12:51.49 | Learn | deviant: You're in GNOME ? - I know in KDE you can do smb://< IP >/ .. |
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| 12:52.18 | jungle | here is an example.. take a shell, and type: smbclient \\\\<IP>\\<SHARE-NAME> |
| 12:52.38 | deviant | Learn: here`s the problem. i can acess that machine by Conect to Server option |
| 12:52.48 | Speech | ok |
| 12:53.05 | Learn | deviant: but you want to point and click ? |
| 12:53.31 | deviant | Learn: yeah, something like that. i don`t want to have to login each time |
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| 12:53.56 | Learn | deviant: My best guess is that you're not in the same workgroup as the other machine |
| 12:54.06 | michal_ | the only imap daemon in sarge that supports accessing mail directly from /var/spool/mail files is uw-imapd right? |
| 12:54.29 | wols | michal_: don't use it |
| 12:54.34 | deviant | Learn: i think i am. the workgroup is "acasa" |
| 12:54.43 | michal_ | wols: why? doesn't seem I have any options |
| 12:54.45 | wols | michal_: it's kinda dumb to have no folders in imap |
| 12:54.49 | Godofredo | hi all |
| 12:54.54 | sep | deviant: if you use the mount command you can specify the username/password/workgroup there, this alwo workes for fstab |
| 12:55.00 | wols | why do you need /var/spool/mail? |
| 12:55.23 | michal_ | wols: i've already done 6 hours unpaid overtime tonight and I don't have the strength to play with Maildirs |
| 12:55.34 | deviant | sep: i can mount it from fstab ? what what are the options? |
| 12:55.42 | Learn | deviant: Humm then I don't know |
| 12:56.12 | wols | michal_: using var/spool/imap for imap is just nonsensical. stick to pop3 then and call it a day |
| 12:56.32 | michal_ | wols: i need to be able to move messages onto the mail server |
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| 12:56.55 | deviant | Learn: never mind. i see that now, once i`m loged in, the computer apears in my network, and i can access fom there :) |
| 12:57.15 | sep | deviant: umm dont remember in my headm, but it's all in man smbmount |
| 12:57.29 | deviant | sep: yeah, i`ll read that |
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| 12:58.14 | anabain | which is the best prog for sending faxes if I have Gnome? |
| 12:58.34 | tarzeau | anabain: tried apt-cache search fax send gnome ? |
| 12:59.12 | anabain | there are many fax programs |
| 12:59.22 | anabain | that's why I am asking for advice, :) |
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| 12:59.29 | Learn | anabain: Give them a try |
| 12:59.46 | directhex|work | pick up the receiver, and whistle dwn the phone |
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| 12:59.47 | directhex|work | best way |
| 13:00.03 | FieldySnuts | apt-cache search perhaps |
| 13:00.11 | FieldySnuts | !start a browser war |
| 13:00.12 | dpkg | lynx supports standards better than *! |
| 13:00.15 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 13:00.20 | Learn | eh |
| 13:00.28 | FieldySnuts | apt: start a world war |
| 13:00.28 | apt | India will get its ass kicked by Pakistan! |
| 13:00.31 | directhex|work | !start a food fight |
| 13:00.31 | Learn | Opera ownes you all ! |
| 13:00.31 | dpkg | curry is bloated |
| 13:00.49 | anabain | oh, one thing, I want to send faxes through an USB ADSL modem |
| 13:01.03 | Learn | anabain: you can't... |
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| 13:01.22 | tarzeau | Learn: tried OmniWeb ? |
| 13:01.30 | jharrisonwk | opera seems to own a big stinky pile of feces |
| 13:01.32 | directhex|work | anabain, can't be done |
| 13:01.38 | Learn | tarzeau: I don't mind beeing educated |
| 13:01.39 | Shun | i was told before that when i need to host some domains from my box, i have to install the thttpd on the root and change the name server from the domain, well i installed the thttpd and nothing changed, it didnot add the var or www dirs in the root, need someone help please, ty |
| 13:01.39 | michal_ | heh.. I can't even get wu-imapd to accept logins |
| 13:01.39 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau! |
| 13:01.45 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk! |
| 13:01.52 | snadge-l | can someone help me with ksymoops.. im trying to convert an oops into something more meaningful, but its complaining that /proc/ksyms is missing.. but there is a /proc/kallsyms, which doesnt seem to work.. kernel 2.6.12 |
| 13:01.52 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: HEYA! |
| 13:01.53 | tarzeau | Learn: www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/ |
| 13:01.59 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yeah, what's up? |
| 13:02.05 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: nothing |
| 13:02.12 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: sitting out a bad thunder storm |
| 13:02.29 | Shun | how to make sure that the thttpd is working? and if its not working how to run it? |
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| 13:02.47 | tzafrir | michal_, ditch wu-imapd. Try dovecot. It handles mboxes just as well, but also maildirs |
| 13:02.48 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: it's sunny and hot here |
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| 13:02.59 | tarzeau | Shun: /etc/init.d/thttpd start? |
| 13:03.03 | tarzeau | Shun: does it crash? |
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| 13:03.06 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: sounds like cuba is invading here |
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| 13:03.28 | michal_ | tzafrir: how easy is it to set up. I'm barely concious at the moment and I can'tgo home tillthis is done |
| 13:03.35 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: only there are no people dressed in green running around speaking spanish |
| 13:03.36 | snadge-l | anyone know the difference between /proc/ksyms and /proc/kallsyms ? |
| 13:03.46 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: did you anger the mermaid? |
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| 13:04.03 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: no she is happy |
| 13:04.08 | tzafrir | michal_, not as trivial as wu-imapd to set up. OTOH, it can be configured, unlike wu-imapd |
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| 13:04.22 | Shun | tarzeau: ok its working, from where i edit the index files and etc.. ? |
| 13:04.38 | tarzeau | Shun: /var/www ? |
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| 13:04.58 | michal_ | tzafrir: can a sleeping person set it up in iunder 10 minutes? I just don't know what's involved.. mail is streaming in like crazy into /var/spool right now.. one weeks worth of mail |
| 13:05.14 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | hello guys, whats best? : A Webmin Apache PHPlibs Mysql , B Apache phplibs mysql Webmin, C Apache mysql phplibs webmin, D Webmin apache mysql phplibs |
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| 13:05.22 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | order of install |
| 13:05.40 | Learn | Dragon-Eater-AFK: E |
| 13:05.42 | Coke | Dragon-Eater-AFK: it doesn't matter. but remove webmin from that setup. |
| 13:05.47 | wols | Dragon-Eater-AFK: apt-get install <everything you wrote> |
| 13:05.51 | wols | apt will sort out the rest |
| 13:05.51 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | yeah i know |
| 13:05.53 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | but i mean |
| 13:05.54 | tzafrir | michal_, deliver it to mailboxes. That can be done by exim/postfix or procmail |
| 13:05.56 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | whats best to install first |
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| 13:06.04 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | wich order would be best |
| 13:06.05 | wols | Dragon-Eater-AFK: it does not matter |
| 13:06.08 | Coke | Dragon-Eater-AFK: just type all packages to apt-get install and it will install them all |
| 13:06.08 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | ok |
| 13:06.14 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | yeah yeah yeah |
| 13:06.17 | tzafrir | both uw-imapd and dovecot can handle mail in mboxes |
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| 13:06.25 | Coke | Dragon-Eater-AFK: just make sure to remove webmin. :) |
| 13:06.26 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | i was wondering if a specific order would matter but it doesnt :p |
| 13:06.29 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | why Coke? |
| 13:06.34 | michal_ | tzafrir: it's going through amavisd-new at the moment.. not sure what or how I would deliver it to a mailbox.. nor what to do with all the mail that's already in /var/spool |
| 13:06.36 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | webmin is free unlike cpanel :/ |
| 13:06.38 | thcnbl | hi i have a question, i have highpoint 374raid controller, and are unable to get my driver loaded in the right way, already created a ext2 initrd but i het inode messages , So how do i create a new initrd based on cramfs while im in the installation. Im able to get the driver loaded. but the load order is wrong in the initrd created bij debian.. |
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| 13:06.48 | tzafrir | michal_, where exactly in /var/spool? not /var/spool/mail, I hope |
| 13:06.54 | FieldySnuts | webmin is a peice of shit unlike cpanel |
| 13:06.55 | Coke | Dragon-Eater-AFK: you wouldn't want to compromise security by running Apache forks as root. |
| 13:06.57 | FieldySnuts | though i'm not fond of either |
| 13:07.03 | wols | michal_: why can't you leave the imap until tomorrow? mail is stored in /var/spool and won't go away, so relax |
| 13:07.04 | Dragon-Eater | well im not going to pay for CPanel |
| 13:07.21 | FieldySnuts | !hire cpanel |
| 13:07.24 | Coke | Why do people insist on using retarded web applications when there is BASH? |
| 13:07.24 | michal_ | tzafrir: yes.. but to me it's all the same at the moment.. i won't be at work tommorow.. besides.. in 50 minutes it will BE tomorrow |
| 13:07.25 | Learn | Coke: Last time I checked, webmin didn't use Apache but it's own mini HTTP perl server |
| 13:07.30 | jim | Dragon-Eater: webmin has been known to eat configs |
| 13:07.32 | tzafrir | FieldySnuts, have you seen how cpanel works? don't overrate it |
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| 13:07.46 | FieldySnuts | jim: known my ass. it does. it likes to strip out all comments sometimes |
| 13:07.49 | jim | I don't have details; guren does. |
| 13:07.52 | Dragon-Eater | Give me a alternative for webmin thats free and ill use that. |
| 13:07.53 | FieldySnuts | tzafrir: read what I said again, i gave it ac omment. |
| 13:07.58 | Coke | Dragon-Eater: BASH |
| 13:08.03 | FieldySnuts | how about being a real admin. sheesh |
| 13:08.08 | jim | FieldySnuts: so it's not known to? |
| 13:08.08 | Learn | Dragon-Eater: Nah, webmin is ok |
| 13:08.08 | Shun | tzafrir: check this, http://84.244.5.154/ ... i wanna add another index page, if i make index.html and upload, it gonna replace this? |
| 13:08.09 | tzafrir | michal_, answer the Q. plase: where exactly under /var/spool ? |
| 13:08.16 | FieldySnuts | !confuse jim |
| 13:08.17 | dpkg | Yes, them is our gouda today, jim? wellies of the democracy of swaziland with extra anchovies |
| 13:08.32 | Dragon-Eater | learn i have used it for like a year never had problems with it |
| 13:08.35 | Dragon-Eater | tried cpanel |
| 13:08.37 | michal_ | tzafrir: i think /var/spool/mail/user where user is an mbox file |
| 13:08.41 | Dragon-Eater | but then saw i had to pay |
| 13:08.41 | jim | FieldySnuts: is this documented somewhere? |
| 13:08.41 | thcnbl | nobody :-( |
| 13:08.44 | Dragon-Eater | or take the 15 day trial |
| 13:08.55 | jim | that's the only thing I'll believe |
| 13:08.56 | jelly | Coke: there's really no need for Joe Avg. to learn bash when all he wants is to read mail, setup some forwards to gmail and upload his new web page. |
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| 13:09.00 | Coke | Dragon-Eater: BASH is the only tool you'll ever need. You can combine it with telnet or SSH for remote access. |
| 13:09.00 | Dragon-Eater | and then remove, but i dont install trials/nonfree software thats how i judge :p |
| 13:09.06 | tzafrir | michal_, so the MTA has done its part. Now you need to configure the imapd |
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| 13:09.18 | Dragon-Eater | :/ |
| 13:09.20 | Coke | jelly: that can be done with far less rootish systems than webmin, like a webmail. |
| 13:09.21 | snadge-l | ahh it seems /proc/ksyms is deprecated in kernel 2.6 |
| 13:09.23 | tzafrir | What exactly are your problems there? |
| 13:09.32 | Shun | tzafrir: ? |
| 13:09.35 | snadge-l | is there an updated ksymoops that doesnt need /proc/ksyms or uses kallsyms ? |
| 13:09.37 | Dragon-Eater | coke? |
| 13:09.46 | resiak | Crack |
| 13:09.47 | resiak | ! |
| 13:09.48 | Dragon-Eater | bash what is it? the standard shell way of debian right? |
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| 13:09.58 | jharrisonwk | mmm crack |
| 13:10.03 | jim | Dragon-Eater: use webmin if you want, but back up your config files |
| 13:10.09 | FieldySnuts | so anyway yeah, about wanna be admins... |
| 13:10.10 | Coke | Dragon-Eater: yes, it's probably the most used shell, although according to many it is not the most efficient. |
| 13:10.13 | thcnbl | no installation guru's here.. |
| 13:10.16 | jelly | Coke: ok, so upload something as a user, without a setuid or a daemon running as root. |
| 13:10.20 | tzafrir | Shun, What did you ask exactly? I have no experince with virtual hosting with thttpd |
| 13:10.22 | Dragon-Eater | well |
| 13:10.25 | Dragon-Eater | ill just stick to webmin |
| 13:10.28 | Dragon-Eater | like i use to do |
| 13:10.35 | Dragon-Eater | bbl |
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| 13:10.47 | Coke | jelly: a daemon with restricted access may run as root. |
| 13:10.47 | jim | it seems people who are trained to be admins don't want more admins in the work pool. |
| 13:11.02 | tzafrir | Dragon-Eater, yes, it is. But try lsh if you want something different |
| 13:11.03 | jelly | Coke: and that's what webmin uses. |
| 13:11.06 | Coke | jelly: like sshd. it will under optimal conditions fork with UID for the user, not root. |
| 13:11.09 | Coke | jelly: no. |
| 13:11.24 | jim | it's either that, or someone will document every part of what is wrong with webmin |
| 13:11.25 | FieldySnuts | jim: mostly because 75% of the "admins" we meet ar efuckin idiots |
| 13:11.41 | Coke | jelly: webmin is root that can run thousands of lines of unchecked perl-code accessible through a GUI which increases the risk of user input errors even more. |
| 13:11.49 | jim | FieldySnuts: so it -is- that |
| 13:11.54 | jim | thanks for verifying |
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| 13:12.45 | jelly | Coke: well of course it runs as root, it's used to change stuff that you need (some of) root privileges for. |
| 13:13.05 | Coke | jelly: only the one pool process. |
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| 13:13.22 | Coke | jelly: as with apache or any other security aware daemon. |
| 13:13.33 | jelly | Coke: as for unchecked code, have you audited openssh code? ;-) |
| 13:13.45 | jim | jelly: so, do you consider that a good thing? |
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| 13:13.58 | tzafrir | jelly, a very careful design could have tried to separate it to an interface part and a priviliged part. |
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| 13:14.04 | Coke | jelly: the code run in SSH as root to fork my users process is 1/10000 of all code available as root in webmin |
| 13:14.10 | fatal | jelly: you don't need to run the whole damn thing as root... have a separate privilegied process with a well defined api and ipc ... much easier to verify security when you have it separated and a well defined input layer.. |
| 13:14.24 | tzafrir | But frankly, I'm not sure how you could put a simple interface between the two |
| 13:14.51 | Coke | jelly: also, SSH is written by security aware people who's major concern is security while webmin is written by people who thinks learning a shell is to much of a hazzle. You take your pick on who you want to trust and I'll take mine. |
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| 13:15.21 | CQ | hello... is there a decent RCS client out there for linux or windows to clean up a repository before subversion migration? |
| 13:15.30 | tzafrir | fatal, this is not sshd. It needs to get many configuration items from the user. You also need to allow developers to write their own configuration modules |
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| 13:15.37 | ultraviolet16 | hi everyone.. i accidentally left "testing" in my apt-get sources.list and installed fresh debian. now I have perl 5.8.7 installed and i cannot install perl-doc. I get this error when running apt-get install perl-doc:: E: Broken packages |
| 13:15.39 | Coke | CQ: what do you mean "clean up" ? |
| 13:15.53 | tzafrir | Could you prevent the interface from writing an arbitrary value to an arbitrary file? |
| 13:15.54 | CQ | coke- browse, delete, move |
| 13:16.07 | ultraviolet16 | i want to revert to an earlier version so that I can run perl doc |
| 13:16.10 | Coke | CQ: are you using RCS and not CVS? |
| 13:16.23 | michal_ | tzafrir: how the hell do you set up dovecot.. i've enabled pop3 and imap in the config file and it still fails to start |
| 13:16.28 | resiak | !tell ultraviolet16 -about downgrade |
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| 13:16.36 | ultraviolet16 | thanks resiak |
| 13:16.43 | CQ | Coke- can CVS clients access RCS repositories cleanly? |
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| 13:17.03 | jelly | Coke: I agree that the design is shoddy, but it all eventually comes down to trust, not that running a root daemon per se is a bad thing. |
| 13:17.12 | Coke | CQ: I don't think so. I just wasn't sure if you were using RCS for real, never heard of anybody using it the last decade. |
| 13:17.28 | CQ | coke- I don't want to know how long its been here. |
| 13:17.32 | ultraviolet16 | resiak: that's some terrible news.. might I have to re-install altogether? |
| 13:17.33 | CQ | guess why we want to migrate... |
| 13:17.40 | thcnbl | hi i have a question, i have highpoint 374raid controller, and are unable to get my driver loaded in the right way, already created a ext2 initrd but i het inode messages , So how do i create a new initrd based on cramfs while im in the installation. Im able to get the driver loaded. but the load order is wrong in the initrd created bij debian.. |
| 13:17.41 | tzafrir | edit /etc/dovecont/dovecot.conf and set default_mail_env |
| 13:17.42 | resiak | ultraviolet16: Yes, you might/do. |
| 13:17.50 | Coke | CQ: doesn't the rcs CLI utility give you that functionality? |
| 13:17.55 | tzafrir | michal_, edit /etc/dovecont/dovecot.conf and set default_mail_env |
| 13:17.59 | jim | ultraviolet16: debian is not designed for downgrading automatically... having said that, simple cases of individual packages will downgrade ok, but that's becasue there's nothing special to do. |
| 13:18.06 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | what should i use as hostname? |
| 13:18.17 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | debian-server? :p |
| 13:18.19 | michal_ | tzafrir: looking at that now.. it seems like it can do both mbox and maildir simultaneously? |
| 13:18.19 | CQ | coke- I want to see the whole repository tree, and work around in it... |
| 13:18.21 | Coke | jelly: no, I never claimed running a root daemon is bad. I said running a lot of unchecked code as root is a bad thing. |
| 13:18.23 | Learn | Dragon-Eater-AFK: How about the hostname... |
| 13:18.29 | jim | ultraviolet16: when looking at a lot of packages, hope you have a backup you can restore. |
| 13:18.36 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | its behind network learn |
| 13:18.39 | resiak | ultraviolet16: Either that or perform magical jugglings with dpkg -l, apt-cache, --purge and about a week ;) |
| 13:18.40 | directhex|work | Dragon-Eater-AFK, angrybadger |
| 13:18.41 | nomad_cz | Hi. I have got smartd running on my box (Sarge) and I am getting messages like this : Device: /dev/hda, SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 56 to 57. Overall status is passed. Is it normal or should I be worried ? Thanks a lot. |
| 13:18.47 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | lol |
| 13:18.49 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | doesnt matter huh |
| 13:18.52 | Learn | Dragon-Eater-AFK: Call it " Jedi " |
| 13:18.55 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | hhhahaha |
| 13:18.59 | tzafrir | michal_, not sure about that. Start with mbox alone to get things working. Or mbox for /var/spool/mail and maildirs for the rest |
| 13:19.00 | directhex|work | nomad_cz, a certain level of smart chatter is normal |
| 13:19.06 | Coke | CQ: OK, I've never used RCS so I wouldn't be able to tell you to do that. Perhaps it'd be easier to convert it to subversion and then clean it up? |
| 13:19.18 | tzafrir | mailboxes have the obvious atvantage of being much simpler. |
| 13:19.20 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | k ill just fill in something not logical |
| 13:19.23 | nomad_cz | directhex|work: Uff. Thanks ;) |
| 13:19.31 | CQ | that's the question... clean and convert, or convert and clean... |
| 13:19.45 | jharrisonwk | mmmmm grits |
| 13:19.51 | ultraviolet16 | im just going to re-install alltogether |
| 13:19.53 | ultraviolet16 | man, what a shame |
| 13:19.57 | ultraviolet16 | thanks guys |
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| 13:20.06 | jim | Dragon-Eater-AFK: it might be helpful if you have an internal/behind-masq network to name all the machines inside |
| 13:20.15 | michal_ | tzafrir: i don't understand this example.. default_mail_env = mbox:%h/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u |
| 13:20.19 | Coke | CQ: I don't know what kind of RCS utilities are out there. Debian only has the RCS CLI thingie. On the other hand I know that SVN has a multitude of tools to do what you want. |
| 13:20.26 | michal_ | tzafrir: what's the difference between mbox: and mail: ? |
| 13:20.27 | Coke | CQ: so it might be easier to convert and then clean. |
| 13:20.40 | jim | ultraviolet16: consider keeping backups this time |
| 13:20.48 | ultraviolet16 | i have backups |
| 13:20.48 | nomad_cz | Thanks a lot. Bye ... |
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| 13:20.55 | ultraviolet16 | i just need to work on a perl script like yesterday |
| 13:20.56 | jim | then restore from them :) |
| 13:21.01 | thcnbl | quit |
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| 13:21.03 | ultraviolet16 | takes time |
| 13:21.09 | ultraviolet16 | well i better get to it! |
| 13:21.12 | ultraviolet16 | byebye |
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| 13:21.41 | Coke | Dragon-Eater-AFK: you need a DNS to make that hostname usable by other machines. |
| 13:22.02 | Coke | Dragon-Eater-AFK: unless you have a DNS only your machine will know that hostname anyway. |
| 13:22.21 | michal_ | tzafrir: what would a NORMAL default debian sarge default_mail_env look like? |
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| 13:22.41 | tzafrir | michal_, "mbox:" a "type". "mail": part of the path. |
| 13:22.42 | ethics | yay i love it when a day goes well 8)...2.6.12 kernel new nvidia driver and everything works as expected.....i am impressed |
| 13:22.43 | greyson | Does the UK have something like daylight savings time? |
| 13:22.51 | jim | michal_: whatever is installed by default? |
| 13:22.54 | tzafrir | %h is the home dir |
| 13:23.02 | tzafrir | %u: username |
| 13:23.06 | directhex|work | greycat, of course |
| 13:23.07 | michal_ | tzafrir: what the hell is INBOX= then? |
| 13:23.10 | directhex|work | bah |
| 13:23.12 | directhex|work | greyson, of course |
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| 13:23.29 | greyson | directhex|work: Se the GMT there is.. +1? |
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| 13:23.42 | nictuku | what are safe parameters to copy a root file system to another disk using tar? tar zcvfp --exclude=/proc --exclude=/boot destfile.tar.gz / <- is this fine? |
| 13:23.43 | tzafrir | the IMAP protocol notes a special name for the INBOX folder. This is the "default" folder of the user |
| 13:23.44 | directhex|work | ethics, i heard there was a udev gotcha on getting 2.6.12 into debian |
| 13:24.02 | directhex|work | greyson, no, GMT is GMT. currently, the time is in BST, which is GMT+1 |
| 13:24.03 | jm_ | nictuku: tried hard disk upgrade mini howto? |
| 13:24.04 | jim | nictuku: no z |
| 13:24.05 | greycat | imagine that. udev, causing a problem. |
| 13:24.10 | michal_ | tzafrir: so it's not needed for mbox? confusing examples :/ |
| 13:24.16 | jim | nictuku: cfpl |
| 13:24.23 | ethics | directhex|work, : no problems so far 8) |
| 13:24.23 | greyson | directhex|work: Sorry... yeah, offset. Cool, thanks! |
| 13:24.30 | nictuku | jm_: haven't find that. I |
| 13:24.31 | michal_ | tzafrir: it lists the INBOX one as an mbox example |
| 13:24.37 | nictuku | jm_: haven't find that. I'll google for it. thanks for the reference |
| 13:24.43 | directhex|work | ethics, i thnk it's probably just some updates for changed /sys entries |
| 13:24.46 | ethics | directhex|work, im keeping my 2.6.8 debian closest kernel as a fallback |
| 13:24.49 | tzafrir | Now since you can only have one folder at /var/spool/mail/USERNAME , you can use it as the INBOX, and not make it part of the hirarchy in the user's home directory |
| 13:24.51 | jim | nictuku: do you intend to store the tarball? |
| 13:24.52 | nictuku | jim hmm ok |
| 13:24.58 | tzafrir | This is a rather sane default |
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| 13:25.10 | tzafrir | Unless you want to store all of the mail in the home dir |
| 13:25.23 | nictuku | I'm migrating from a failing disk |
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| 13:25.36 | saabin | hello all |
| 13:25.39 | saabin | how I can find string "abcdefd" in files inside /etc/ directory? |
| 13:25.46 | ethics | directhex|work, something i didnt see in changelog thats there is the ich-m stuff and alsa1.0.9 .... |
| 13:25.59 | tzafrir | grep -r abcdef /etc |
| 13:26.05 | michal_ | tzafrir: des that mean the mbox file becomes the inbox? |
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| 13:26.08 | nictuku | jim: the disk of the server which will store the copy is limited, that's why I would use z. |
| 13:26.13 | tzafrir | michal_, yes |
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| 13:26.23 | directhex|work | ethics,is dothan properly supported in speedstep-centino.c yet? |
| 13:26.29 | michal_ | tzafrir: and it's a file.. not a directory? |
| 13:26.30 | tzafrir | This is the hardwired setup of uw-imapd, BTW |
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| 13:26.56 | tzafrir | an mbox folder is a file |
| 13:26.58 | nictuku | jim: hmm tar -l is great. Forgot about that. thanks |
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| 13:27.47 | saabin | tzafrir: thank you! |
| 13:27.55 | michal_ | tzafrir: but wouldn't the setting then have to be default_mail_env = mbox:/var/spool/mail/%u:INBOX=/var/spool/mail/%u |
| 13:27.56 | ethics | directhex|work, i havent put it on a laptop yet but it did look like the code was there....wether it works or not im not sure tho.....it looks visibly different to 2.6.11 tho |
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| 13:28.19 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | whats better? |
| 13:28.20 | ethics | directhex|work, grepping for dothan showed the right files etc |
| 13:28.23 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | grub or lilo? |
| 13:28.28 | tzafrir | michal_, but then the user won't be able to generate other folders |
| 13:28.30 | maketo | hi, does anyone know if resize2fs works on a live fs? |
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| 13:28.55 | directhex|work | ethics, there was some half-arsed attempt in 2.6.11 which didn't actually work. hope it's in there for real now |
| 13:29.03 | tzafrir | maketo, IIRC it warns the user against trying |
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| 13:29.14 | michal_ | tzafrir: i don't understand.. the mbox file IS /var/spool/mail/%u and we want the mbox file to be the INBOX.. so we specify the path.. how else could it make sense? |
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| 13:29.25 | directhex|work | ethics, anyway, what i desire are powernow-k8 support for venice, and some kind of framebuffer that works with my 6800gt pcie |
| 13:29.47 | maketo | tzafrir: so is there any tool to shrink an online ext3 fs? |
| 13:29.53 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | whats better? grub or lilo? |
| 13:29.56 | tzafrir | michal_, /var/spool/mail/%u is *a* mbox folder . But the user can have other mbox foldewrs under the home directory (or whereever) |
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| 13:30.06 | MassX | hi |
| 13:30.06 | darxeth | why when i copy my script to /home/[user]/bin and i type the script's name $script name ; and still it cant recognize it as an internal command/script? |
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| 13:30.17 | thomas_adam | darxeth: echo $PATH |
| 13:30.21 | Godofredo | hi all |
| 13:30.27 | tzafrir | maketo, online shrink? I think this isn't exactly possible |
| 13:30.33 | LozPrime | Can anyone help with a change hostname issue? |
| 13:30.36 | darxeth | echo $/home/darxeth/bin |
| 13:30.42 | darxeth | ops sorry.. |
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| 13:30.45 | thomas_adam | LozPrime: man hostname |
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| 13:30.49 | maketo | tzafrir: only grow, right? |
| 13:30.53 | Godofredo | ¿hoe can i stop kdm? i think is some like /etc/init/KDM stop but im not sure |
| 13:30.56 | CQ | if I invoke rsync with --rsh=ssh can I get it to ask me for a password for the remote machine? right now it just gives Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). without asking... |
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| 13:31.07 | michal_ | tzafrir: i don't understand what the settings do. dovecot configuration doesn't make snse to me :/ I'd use courier-imapd but I don't know remember/know to deliver to Maildirs anyway |
| 13:31.08 | CQ | Godofredo: look in /etc/init.d |
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| 13:31.15 | Learn | Godofredo: /etc/init.d/kdm stop ... |
| 13:31.16 | tzafrir | LozPrime, that is not enough. editing /etc/HOSTNAME as well is a step in the right direction |
| 13:31.19 | darxeth | thomas_adam the path with the script name or without? |
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| 13:31.27 | Godofredo | thank you very much |
| 13:31.31 | LozPrime | Its whether I need to or not! |
| 13:31.35 | thomas_adam | darxeth: I asked for the output of "echo $PATH". |
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| 13:31.40 | ethics | directhex|work, theres lots of k8 changes...fixes for 64 bit stuff and all the apm stuffs fixed so i would expect you would get a good result on the powernow stuff....there was some new graphics stuff but im nvidia so i dont know what to look for for you 8( |
| 13:31.46 | Delph | Godofredo: careful use of 'tab' can help in such situations. eg, on the console type "/etc/init<tab>" "/etc/init.d/" will popup. Then go for k<tab> and kdm will popup. |
| 13:31.48 | tzafrir | michal_, procmail can deliver to maildirs, I believe. So can postfix |
| 13:31.49 | Delph | tab ++ |
| 13:31.56 | ethics | directhex|work, are you nvidia too? |
| 13:32.05 | tzafrir | but I don't see exactly what your problem is |
| 13:32.19 | darxeth | thomas_adam /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
| 13:32.24 | ethics | directhex|work, if it helps i ghet frambuffer tux on booting process now ... |
| 13:32.29 | michal_ | tzafrir: i'm using postfix, but i don't know if it can deliver to Maildirs in the standard way with this setup |
| 13:32.34 | MassX | If my domain dont have hosting, And i wanna host it from my box, what i change in the dns, the name server to the root IP? |
| 13:32.35 | thomas_adam | darxeth: export PATH=$PATH:~/bin |
| 13:32.38 | directhex|work | ethics, agp or pci express? |
| 13:33.02 | ethics | directhex|work, im on 6200 pci-e...there was new pci-e support in kernels.. |
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| 13:33.24 | directhex|work | ethics, ooh, that could be good |
| 13:33.31 | darxeth | thomas_adam thanks it worked. but can you explain to me what this command do? and also the echo $PATH please? |
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| 13:33.41 | greycat | darxeth: get a unix book and look up PATH |
| 13:33.43 | ethics | directhex|work, i just loaded the 76XX nvidia version too but it didnt make any real change to glxgears etc.. |
| 13:33.54 | thomas_adam | darxeth: Now see ~/.bash_profile -- as there's a section in there for doing exactly that. |
| 13:33.57 | darxeth | i will... |
| 13:34.05 | tzafrir | michal_, IIRC it is by setting home_mailbox to something that ends with a '/' . Read the docs for that config parameter or somethng in the neighborhood |
| 13:34.16 | darxeth | thomas_adam okay... |
| 13:34.22 | ethics | directhex|work, anything in particular i could try for framebuffer checks? |
| 13:34.32 | Laibsch | Where can I find out more about how to create a kernel patch file? Is creating such a thing *very* difficult? |
| 13:34.43 | thomas_adam | Laibsch: man diff ? |
| 13:35.00 | FieldySnuts | yep man diff |
| 13:35.16 | Laibsch | thomas_adam: I have the patches, I want to create a deb out of them so I can use it with kernel_package. |
| 13:35.25 | Laibsch | FieldySnuts: Unfortunately, no |
| 13:35.27 | thomas_adam | Laibsch: So your question changes? |
| 13:35.35 | FieldySnuts | Laibsch: ? |
| 13:35.36 | Laibsch | No, my question remains. |
| 13:35.43 | FieldySnuts | !confuse Laibsch |
| 13:35.44 | dpkg | Yes, how was my badger tomorrow, Laibsch? trousers of the people's republic of liechtenstein with extra crabpaste |
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| 13:35.56 | FieldySnuts | yech crabpaste |
| 13:35.59 | directhex|work | ethics, no, i don't know enough kernel-fu to know what to look for |
| 13:36.05 | thomas_adam | Laibsch: What are you trying to do? (not that you shoulc be anyway, but...) |
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| 13:36.15 | tzafrir | Laibsch, the quick-and-dirty method: apply them manually to the source tree, and use make-kpkg to create the debs |
| 13:36.53 | michal_ | oh crap |
| 13:36.53 | thomas_adam | Laibsch: Are these debian patch sets? |
| 13:37.01 | michal_ | none of the users have home directories |
| 13:37.13 | thomas_adam | michal_: What did you do? |
| 13:37.21 | ethics | directhex|work, : and realworld testing using any apps? |
| 13:37.29 | michal_ | oh wait.. they have home directories in passwd they just weren't created |
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| 13:37.49 | thomas_adam | michal_: Why weren't you using adduser(8) ? |
| 13:37.50 | michal_ | is there any way to create the home directories for all the users in /etc/passwd (after a certain uid) |
| 13:37.52 | tzafrir | michal_, sounds like a one-liner bash script to me |
| 13:38.04 | Laibsch | thomas_adam: I want to compile openmosix but not taint my kernel source. |
| 13:38.06 | Mage\work | michal_: yes with pam |
| 13:38.08 | thomas_adam | michal_: Yes, there is -- but just delete them, and use adduser(8) properly. |
| 13:38.20 | michal_ | thomas_adam: because I had to use useradd. i needed to add a batch of users without setting their passwords |
| 13:38.23 | thomas_adam | Laibsch: Heh. Why should you worry about tainting it? |
| 13:38.25 | Laibsch | tzafrir: That taints the source and I would like to avoid that. |
| 13:38.32 | thomas_adam | michal_: That's no excuse. |
| 13:38.33 | michal_ | thomas_adam: that would take thousands of years to do manually |
| 13:38.35 | jm_ | michal_: because you didn't read man page for it |
| 13:38.50 | directhex|work | ethics, you could buy a gigabyte 6800gt, and test it :) |
| 13:38.52 | Laibsch | thomas_adam: No, these are not debian patch sets. My question is how to create such things. |
| 13:39.06 | tzafrir | Laibsch, huh? if the patches are written badly it will taint the source whatever way you do that |
| 13:39.06 | thomas_adam | Laibsch: *plonk*. |
| 13:39.19 | michal_ | guess i'll just manually mkdir then chown the home dirs :/ |
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| 13:39.25 | darxeth | thomas_adam what is the MANPATH? man pages?? |
| 13:39.26 | directhex|work | ethics, try "hwinfo --monitor" as root |
| 13:39.30 | caphuso | Laibsch: with the dh-kpatches package |
| 13:39.39 | thomas_adam | darxeth: Eh? |
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| 13:39.55 | thomas_adam | darxeth: man manpath |
| 13:40.20 | Laibsch | thomas_adam: I wonder what I did to you. Is it my fault if you do not understand? |
| 13:40.28 | ethics | directhex|work, well a 6200 and 6800 agp is the same chip just some pipes closed isnt it or is that the radeons i cant remember heheh i research a little before buying |
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| 13:40.44 | Laibsch | tzafrir: I'd like to keep /usr/src as it was created from the debian kernel sources. |
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| 13:40.51 | directhex|work | ethics, there's more than missing pipes between 6200 and 6800 |
| 13:40.56 | directhex|work | ethics, and i'm on pci express |
| 13:41.01 | michal_ | jm_: and i did read the manpage before and I just reread it now.. uderadd is supposed to create the home directory by default |
| 13:41.03 | asker | hi.. how can i see all directories size in home directory ? |
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| 13:41.08 | Laibsch | caphuso: Thank you for the hint. Hard to keep up with reading this channel. |
| 13:41.08 | jm_ | michal_: no it's not |
| 13:41.10 | asker | all users.. |
| 13:41.39 | tzafrir | michal_, something like: grep ______ /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{printf "mkdir %s; chown %s.%s %s\n",$5,$2,$2,$5}' |
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| 13:41.56 | michal_ | jm_: when invoked without the -D option .. the home directory will be created .. |
| 13:42.07 | asker | ¿ |
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| 13:42.11 | tzafrir | and add something in the end of the pipe to run them, or send this to a file and source it |
| 13:42.24 | elirips | hello. out of topic, but maybe someone knows about it: is it possible to use the usb-data-cabel DCU-11 from sony ericsson to connect a t610 mobile phone to a computer with linux? and transfer java-apps to the find using linux? the software is only available for win... |
| 13:42.38 | jm_ | michal_: no |
| 13:42.44 | MassX | HI, WHAT IF I SAY YOU SUCK GUYS?! |
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| 13:42.50 | jm_ | michalato: read about -m |
| 13:42.50 | ethics | directhex|work, kk must have been the radeos that were the same chip then...just theorizing that maybe the PCI-E work the same way |
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| 13:42.56 | jm_ | michal_: read about -m |
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| 13:43.29 | michal_ | jm_: so why does it say the default is to create a directory right att the top of the manpage? |
| 13:43.38 | asker | hi.. how can i see all directories size in home directory ? |
| 13:43.49 | michal_ | tzafrir: thanks for the tip |
| 13:43.53 | directhex|work | asker, du -hs * |
| 13:43.54 | wols | asker: man du |
| 13:44.04 | jm_ | michal_: "depending on the command line options" |
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| 13:44.47 | Laibsch | caphuso: Thanks, exactly what I was looking for. |
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| 13:45.14 | michal_ | jm: bah.. they should have put that at the START of the sentence. I didn't even register it. |
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| 13:45.24 | ethics | elirips: well theres some phone stuff that works around...i heard you could do it via irda on some phones so its probably just some sort of serial connect..... |
| 13:46.26 | ethics | elirips, specifics on your phone i have no clues |
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| 13:46.58 | jm_ | michal_: no, you should learn that you have to actually read things |
| 13:47.18 | ethics | directhex|work, the hwinfo --monitor showed activity but no results displayed...does it dumpt to file or something ? |
| 13:47.44 | elirips | ethics: hm, may be i should just go and buy the cable but if it wont work at the end... aren't phones handled like usb-memory-sticks? |
| 13:47.58 | resiak | elirips: Depends on the phone. |
| 13:48.15 | LozPrime | Problem is - My hostname points to the wrong IP address. This is provider DNS problem. On solution I've been told is to change the hostname. Why would I need to do this - any ideas? |
| 13:48.27 | directhex|work | ethics, no, if it could retrieve info it would have done |
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| 13:49.04 | michal_ | jm_: see how good you are t reading after having worked 20 hours straight |
| 13:49.12 | blindboygrunt | hello all, does anyone know what the debian package for fromdos is called, if there is one? |
| 13:49.14 | zaikxtox | hello. someone has used kde icon themes on the rox filer? is there an easy way to do that? |
| 13:49.22 | ethics | elirips, some did but mainly the mp3 player ones...not sure accross the board tho... |
| 13:49.26 | directhex|work | blindboygrunt, what does fromdos do? |
| 13:49.29 | michal_ | does this make sense? |
| 13:49.30 | michal_ | for user in $(cat userslist); do echo mkdir /home/$user; chown $user.$user ; done |
| 13:49.33 | jm_ | michal_: so take a break and do it after that |
| 13:49.35 | michal_ | minus the echo |
| 13:50.06 | ethics | elirips, the samsung and motorolas for instance have different software for different models....not interchangeable |
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| 13:50.30 | michal_ | jm: if i take a break i'll likely fall asleep and kill someone on the way home.. i need to finish this ASAP so i can get the hell out of here. need to get up soon to study for an exam anyway |
| 13:50.34 | elirips | ethics: okay, thanks. guess i just have to go and buy it and give it a try. |
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| 13:50.54 | ethics | elirips, if thats the mod made by the vendor "3" in australia or manufacturer i dont know but the phones are badged |
| 13:51.05 | blindboygrunt | directhex|work : I have a linux binary that i need to install, which came on a cd, and i get install errors, when I look at the file, each line ends in ^M which apparently is a windows file issue |
| 13:51.12 | michal_ | umm.. forgot the /home$user for the chown |
| 13:51.14 | Guerin | Agrajag-: aptitude install libtheora0=0.0.0.alpha4-1.1 |
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| 13:51.26 | directhex|work | !find dos2unix |
| 13:51.35 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'dos2unix' (3): (/usr/bin/dos2unix) in utils/sysutils ;; (/usr/share/doc/prcs/examples/dos2unixdiff3) in devel/prcs ;; (/usr/share/doc/kforth/examples/dos2unix.4th, /usr/share/doc/kforth/doc/examples/dos2unix.4th) in interpreters/kforth. |
| 13:51.36 | tarzeau | Guerin: good night |
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| 13:51.45 | ethics | elirips, you may have more luck ir connecting....they normally have modems etc in them.....research the phone apps and phreaking sitees? |
| 13:51.46 | tarzeau | Guerin: want a fairy tale, honey? |
| 13:51.46 | jm_ | blindboygrunt: vim/recode/dos2unix can all do the job |
| 13:52.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: where have you been! we found new bub-n-bros levels: LostLevels, DreamLand, Originals , more than 300! |
| 13:52.11 | directhex|work | blindboygrunt, dos2unix in sysutils |
| 13:52.13 | elirips | ethics: i am just googling around |
| 13:52.16 | greycat | blindboygrunt: /msg dpkg dos2unix |
| 13:52.19 | blindboygrunt | jm_ : I tried vi, but vi couldn't find the ^M |
| 13:52.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: /topic -ot |
| 13:52.37 | michal_ | oh great |
| 13:52.37 | greycat | argh! dpkg ate a \ |
| 13:52.45 | jm_ | blindboygrunt: vim, not vi -- :help fileformat |
| 13:52.47 | greycat | dpkg, dos2unix =~ s/'r'/'\r'/ |
| 13:52.47 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 13:52.48 | michal_ | user groups weren't created either :/ |
| 13:52.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: see ? |
| 13:52.52 | greycat | argh! dpkg ate a \ |
| 13:52.56 | jm_ | well you could also delete the characters with regular vi |
| 13:53.10 | greycat | dpkg, dos2unix =~ s#s/r#s/\r# |
| 13:53.11 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 13:53.14 | directhex|work | munchmunchmunch |
| 13:53.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: you don't want to know about bub-n-bros ? |
| 13:53.25 | greycat | that looks better. |
| 13:53.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: i do .. but did oyu see where i was in /topic -ot ? |
| 13:53.38 | blindboygrunt | directhex|work : I don't seem to have it - apt-get doesn't find it |
| 13:53.49 | spo0nman | is there a way to make untar not overwrite already untared files? is it any efficient? im trying to untar a VERY BIG archive and dont want to recreate the effort. |
| 13:53.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: no. what's /topic -ot ? |
| 13:53.51 | greycat | blindboygrunt: /msg dpkg dos2unix |
| 13:54.07 | directhex|work | blindboygrunt, doesn't find what? |
| 13:54.20 | spo0nman | its taking its own sweet time ... over 15hours for 2gig file... :( |
| 13:54.23 | greycat | tarzeau: /topic #debian-offtopic |
| 13:54.38 | blindboygrunt | directhex|work : never mind, I'm being rather sad :P |
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| 13:54.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: see :) |
| 13:55.08 | greycat | spo0nman: what the hell are you writing to? monks with fountain pens? |
| 13:55.11 | tarzeau | 15:54 [gnu] -!- Cannot join to channel #debian-offtopic (You have joined to too many channels) |
| 13:55.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: cute |
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| 13:55.46 | greycat | floppy disk jukebox with changer? |
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| 13:56.05 | abrotman | floppy caddy ? |
| 13:56.09 | michal_ | with the -m option will useradd create a group for the user added? |
| 13:56.19 | greycat | michal_: what does the man page say? |
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| 13:56.24 | greycat | michal_: what happened when you tried it? |
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| 13:56.39 | michal_ | greycat: the manpage doesn't seem to say at all |
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| 13:56.49 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | what is better apache 1.3 or 2? |
| 13:57.00 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.08 | greycat | doesn't have anything at all to do with groups. |
| 13:57.14 | greycat | so why are you even asking? |
| 13:57.43 | elirips | ethics: it's working via bluetooth now. very nice :) see: http://www.andybotting.com/phone/ |
| 13:57.44 | spo0nman | greycat: aparantly its a HP DL130 |
| 13:57.46 | michal_ | greycat: because i don't trust what I read |
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| 13:58.30 | michal_ | useradd doesn't seem to have any way to create a group with the users name |
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| 13:58.50 | directhex|work | sounds like a tape drive |
| 13:59.04 | znh | hmz.. Do there exist encrypted proxy's? |
| 13:59.17 | greycat | based on these forum posts, it seems to be a computer of some sort. |
| 13:59.22 | Learn | znh: I belive it's called SSL |
| 13:59.28 | abrotman | greycat: probably a 1U |
| 13:59.32 | greycat | so I don't see how that answers the question I asked about his destination media |
| 13:59.33 | znh | Learn: hmm |
| 14:01.11 | spo0nman | greycat: its a high end rack server from HP |
| 14:01.33 | greycat | spo0nman: so what are you writing to? a floppy? how could it be taking you 15 hours to process a 2 GB tarball? |
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| 14:01.51 | de_mon | wtf? of the top of your head, where does windows keep its dhcp leases |
| 14:02.08 | greycat | de_mon: reboot it. |
| 14:02.10 | Learn | de_mon: the registry ? |
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| 14:02.25 | greycat | de_mon: better yet, install unix on it |
| 14:02.26 | abrotman | de_mon: ipconfig /all .. ipconfig /release .. ipconfig /renew |
| 14:02.32 | de_mon | greycat: :) |
| 14:02.35 | Learn | ipconfig.... urghh |
| 14:02.36 | streuner | hm |
| 14:02.42 | spo0nman | greycat: im writing to a disk, nevermind. I wanted to know if tar can work without actually extracting and overwriting the files which are already there.. |
| 14:02.45 | abrotman | urgh indeed |
| 14:02.51 | de_mon | abrotman: it's requesting its old address and getting it. I'm gona have to beat it up a bit more |
| 14:02.52 | greycat | spo0nman: man tar |
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| 14:02.58 | de_mon | google will fix it |
| 14:03.30 | Learn | de_mon: A Debian Stage install disc would too |
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| 14:03.35 | Learn | Stable* |
| 14:03.43 | Learn | I think I'm too tired to be online |
| 14:03.47 | spo0nman | greycat: thanktyou. |
| 14:03.48 | abrotman | de_mon: that's kind of the way dhcp works .. |
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| 14:06.11 | de_mon | abrotman: yes, but Its assigned a static IP and its not taking it, the ratbastard |
| 14:06.40 | abrotman | de_mon: assigned where? .. and this isn't #windows |
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| 14:07.10 | vezult | de_mon: you sure you got the MAC address right in your dhcp server host entry? |
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| 14:07.53 | abrotman | or does he mean his debian dhcp server is goofing ? |
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| 14:08.04 | PiPe-- | hey guys .. have anyone seen a how to of how can I make a dns cache server? |
| 14:08.18 | petemc | de_mon: you can see dhcp broadcasts and any responses in the logs |
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| 14:08.26 | abrotman | PiPe--: the bind ARM shuld help |
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| 14:09.01 | PiPe-- | abrotman: bind ARM? |
| 14:09.04 | FieldySnuts | run the dhcp server (isc i'm assuming) without detatching, it'll dump stuff to stdout |
| 14:09.19 | abrotman | PiPe--: BIND Administrator's Reference Manual |
| 14:09.25 | de_mon | abrotman: in my /etc/dhcp.conf no it's offering the right address but windows of course wants its old address |
| 14:09.31 | petemc | PiPe--: apt-get install bind9 |
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| 14:09.35 | abrotman | de_mon: windows is stupid |
| 14:09.36 | petemc | is all you need |
| 14:09.39 | abrotman | petemc: bind9-doc ? |
| 14:09.41 | FieldySnuts | !start an os war |
| 14:09.41 | dpkg | ITS is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 14:10.07 | petemc | abrotman: for a caching server, you dont need to do much reading - tho of course its good to read |
| 14:10.13 | de_mon | its worked in the past, assigning a static DHCP lease and the machine dropping its old one |
| 14:10.17 | abrotman | petemc: i meant that was where the ARM was :) |
| 14:10.22 | petemc | oh :) |
| 14:10.26 | de_mon | but anyways... |
| 14:10.42 | ohad | tzafrir, are you still here? |
| 14:10.49 | tzafrir | yes |
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| 14:12.13 | ethics | if i have both unstable and etch sources in my list can i set one as default etc or do i just use -t DIST for everything? |
| 14:12.36 | greycat | !pinning |
| 14:12.37 | dpkg | i heard apt-pinning is 'man apt_preferences', or add testing and unstable lines to sources.list, create /etc/apt/preferences containing "Package: *nPin: release a=testingnPin-Priority: 900n\nPackage: *nPin: release o=DebiannPin-Priority: -10n", then apt-get install foo/unstable, or http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/mail#1 or http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
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| 14:14.59 | Belboz | anyone have any idea why I don't have permission to add the Java plugin to Firefox, even though I am signed on as root? |
| 14:15.05 | ethics | greycat, cheers |
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| 14:15.48 | Belboz | debian:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins# ln -s /home/dan/plugin/i386/ | /libjavaplugin_oji.so . |
| 14:15.48 | Belboz | bash: /libjavaplugin_oji.so: Permission denied |
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| 14:16.25 | kneet | Belboz, what's the "|" doing in that command? |
| 14:16.40 | Belboz | hmm, it was part of the original command |
| 14:16.46 | Belboz | which I had to modify |
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| 14:17.12 | kneet | ln -s takes source and dest paths - not a pipe? |
| 14:17.12 | Spec | err, you don't want a pipe there |
| 14:17.20 | Ekaterin | What causes the error message "You need a cursor-addressable terminal to run "elm" and I can't find any kind of termcap entry for "xterm" - check your "TERM" setting..."? |
| 14:17.41 | vladkao | helix: you using ati ? |
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| 14:17.49 | helix | yeah |
| 14:17.59 | Spec | ln -s `find ~dan/plugin/i386/|grep libjavaplugin_oji.so` . maybe |
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| 14:18.08 | greycat | Spec: what in the hell? |
| 14:18.14 | Spec | would that work? |
| 14:18.21 | vladkao | helix: what card ? |
| 14:18.29 | Spec | maybe = too early in the morning for me to be thinking |
| 14:18.32 | helix | radeon 7000 |
| 14:18.50 | kneet | Belboz, where did you get the original command (or what did it look like) ? |
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| 14:19.14 | vladkao | helix: any problems? |
| 14:19.29 | Belboz | nevermind |
| 14:19.34 | Belboz | I figured it out |
| 14:19.35 | helix | well, I can't do 3d acceleration but I'm not a gamer so it doesn't really matter |
| 14:19.43 | exerd | hi i need some help mounting my usb 1.0 digitalcamera |
| 14:19.52 | vladkao | helix: glxgears ? |
| 14:20.00 | helix | freezes my machine |
| 14:20.01 | Belboz | ln -s /home/dan/plugin/i386/ /libjavaplugin_oji. That's what it's supposed to be |
| 14:20.05 | vladkao | helix: huh |
| 14:20.07 | helix | I don't even know if the 7000 is still sold |
| 14:20.10 | helix | it's pretty old |
| 14:20.10 | directhex|work | helix, sarge ought to have DRI support built in for an R100 card like the 7000 |
| 14:20.19 | helix | I don't use sarge |
| 14:20.30 | helix | my computer has other problems though, I don't care about dri |
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| 14:20.39 | directhex|work | hell no, they don't sell that stuff anymore |
| 14:21.04 | directhex|work | well. there's a limited supply still made for 1U servers, to replace the old Rage XL everything used to come with |
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| 14:21.17 | directhex|work | but nothing discrete based on r100 is still made |
| 14:21.46 | Belboz | damn, it didn't work |
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| 14:22.19 | FieldySnuts | !calc 8000 * .2 |
| 14:22.20 | Belboz | I'm trying to put the Java plugin into Firefox, anyone know how to do that? |
| 14:22.23 | FieldySnuts | asdf |
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| 14:22.28 | FieldySnuts | Dragon-Eater-AFK: please don't msg me |
| 14:22.33 | debianppc | Hi, I use debian sarge on ppc, I have a slight problem, I have heartburn but nothing to take for it right now, is it a myth or does milk help with heartburn? |
| 14:22.36 | exerd | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.40 | FieldySnuts | oh. his script msgd me the answer. |
| 14:22.46 | FieldySnuts | thanks but i doubt the ops would like that heh |
| 14:23.26 | migma | exerd, did you edit your /etc/fstab? |
| 14:23.28 | debianppc | heartburn.. milk, anyone? |
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| 14:23.43 | directhex|work | are you certain the camera presents itself as a fat32 volume? not all do |
| 14:23.47 | exerd | migma, no. What shall i add there? Thanks for help! |
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| 14:24.14 | vladkao | helix: don't you play frozen bubble sometimes? :D |
| 14:24.42 | migma | /dev/sda1 /mnt/DIGITALCAMERA auto defaults 0 0 |
| 14:24.55 | helix | vladkao: that doesn't require dri |
| 14:25.28 | vladkao | helix: oh... :-) |
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| 14:25.36 | jharrisonwk | bub-n-bros? |
| 14:25.37 | migma | exerd, and try to mount it |
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| 14:26.26 | exerd | migma, Hm strange it still says i need to specify filesystem |
| 14:27.10 | cahoot | exerd: you are sure the camera is mountable per se? |
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| 14:27.15 | migma | exerd, fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 14:27.17 | directhex|work | i already asked that |
| 14:27.37 | stouset | Geez. Every day it seems it takes longer to log into irc.debian.org |
| 14:27.37 | migma | exerd, you can check there what the FS is |
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| 14:27.49 | exerd | migma, nothing happens |
| 14:27.51 | kneet | stouset, easy - don't log out :) |
| 14:27.56 | stouset | kneet: Laptop. |
| 14:28.06 | exerd | migma, its blank |
| 14:28.14 | kneet | stouset - same here - but I don't tend to take it with me ;) |
| 14:28.22 | Hairst | how can i extrakt .bin file? |
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| 14:28.40 | FieldySnuts | !start a world war |
| 14:28.40 | dpkg | Muslims rule! |
| 14:28.46 | greycat | !.bin |
| 14:28.46 | dpkg | i heard .bin is NOT a meaningful filename extension. apt-get install file, then run file on your .bin and see what the hell it is. Or read it with less. Or read the damned README that should have come with it. If it looks like a shell script, try "sh myfile.bin". the extension some jdk installers have, these are executable files; also there is a macintosh archive format with that extension, or a name given to CD images, in conjunction ... |
| 14:29.17 | Ekaterin | How can I stop elm complaining that it can't find a termcap entry for xterm? |
| 14:29.33 | greycat | run mutt instead |
| 14:30.37 | FieldySnuts | okay. what am I doing wrong: literal CMD: start a world war (*.?) i get no response |
| 14:30.58 | Phated | FieldySnuts: literal start a world war |
| 14:31.09 | FieldySnuts | doesn't always work |
| 14:31.20 | Ekaterin | greycat: I probably can't convince all my users to switch to mutt. Oddly enough, though, that same PC has no trouble with pine. |
| 14:31.21 | Phated | !literal start a world war |
| 14:31.22 | dpkg | start a world war is <reply> (Israel kicks Saudi ass|Muslims rule|Fundamentalist Islam will conquer the Christians|EU 0wnz the USA|USA should nuke North Korea|Brits will one day stomp the IRA|Pakistan sucks|India will get its ass kicked by Pakistan|The USA will get flattened by China|Pakistan will get turned into a sheet of glass by Iran|China will nuke France for the hell of it)! |
| 14:31.23 | FieldySnuts | okay that did work. guess i don't understand the differences |
| 14:31.25 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Does to. |
| 14:31.49 | simonrvn | holy fuck |
| 14:31.55 | greycat | Ekaterin: recompile elm not to use fucking termcap |
| 14:31.55 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Only if it were start a world war <nick> or something, then you'd use literal CMD: start a world war (.*?) |
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| 14:32.04 | greycat | Ekaterin: unless this is BSD, termcap has been obsolete for 10 years |
| 14:32.06 | simonrvn | terminfo works better anyway |
| 14:32.13 | tomb0y | hairst: convert to iso then do waht you want with it. |
| 14:32.45 | directhex|work | tomb0y, what makes you think it's a CDRWIN image? |
| 14:32.50 | simonrvn | it's less pokey and picky omn linux. termcap on bsd... ugh. still sucks ;p |
| 14:33.06 | tomb0y | directhex|work: he stated extract. |
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| 14:33.30 | directhex|work | tomb0y, so what exactly? it could be a selfgz installer or something, like the sun jre installers |
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| 14:33.49 | simonrvn | i should go up to kahnawake sometime this week |
| 14:33.52 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.04 | Ekaterin | I don't actually have an /etc/termcap file on any of my machines, but it's just this one machine that won't run elm. I'm searching for a more recent Debian package of elm now. |
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| 14:34.16 | simonrvn | type apt-cache search apache mod bandwidth first |
| 14:34.30 | simonrvn | Dragon-Eater-AFK: ^^^^^ |
| 14:34.31 | benh | howdy all... any one rember what the chmod trick is to get every file created in a dir to be someuser:someuser ? |
| 14:34.32 | scytheman_ | or use apt-file or packages.debian.org |
| 14:34.48 | Spec | benh: chown? |
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| 14:34.51 | simonrvn | benh: chown dude |
| 14:34.52 | greycat | benh: man chown |
| 14:35.37 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | not giving me what im looking for simonp |
| 14:35.42 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | simonrvn |
| 14:35.48 | benh | Spec: I know that I can chown the dir but though that there was something that I could set with chmod so that when i CREATE a file or dir with in that dir then it becomes someuser... |
| 14:36.07 | simonrvn | benh: set(g|u)id |
| 14:36.08 | Spec | okay. |
| 14:36.08 | Learn | isn't that the sicky bit ? |
| 14:36.10 | ethics | whats the term for when you want mail to have higer priority than http etc bandwidth shaping? |
| 14:36.15 | simonrvn | Learn: no |
| 14:36.19 | greycat | !wikifaq Learn Permissions |
| 14:36.20 | dpkg | Learn: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 14:36.43 | Learn | Bah, it's not like I need it anyway |
| 14:36.45 | benh | simonrvn: cool thanks |
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| 14:37.32 | simonrvn | benh: np |
| 14:37.34 | qwertz__ | Hi! Why isn't it possible to do a "iptables -A OUTPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT" iptables complains that it can't use OUTPUT with -i lo - so the question is how to enable the traffic on localhost? |
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| 14:38.02 | stouset | qwertz__: Look at it closer |
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| 14:38.25 | stouset | qwertz__: You're saying you want to filter *output* traffic by the interface on which it *enters* your computer. |
| 14:38.26 | simonrvn | Dragon-Eater-AFK: then fine tune the search. it takes multiple arguments (keep then to a minimum), and might want to add --names-only to your options |
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| 14:39.07 | qwertz__ | stouset, you are so right |
| 14:39.08 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | got it already simonrvn i guess |
| 14:39.15 | stouset | qwertz__: Always am :-) |
| 14:39.28 | simonrvn | modest |
| 14:39.31 | Spec | that's not true! |
| 14:39.37 | simonrvn | NOT |
| 14:39.48 | Spec | otherwise you'd be able to tell me with 100% accuracy what the flight speed of an african sparrow is |
| 14:39.57 | simonrvn | fucking fast |
| 14:39.58 | debianppc | african swallow |
| 14:40.04 | simonrvn | yeh swallow |
| 14:40.09 | Hairst | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.14 | simonrvn | fucking fast |
| 14:40.20 | debianppc | man |
| 14:40.26 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 14:40.32 | debianppc | i got heartburn, and I need to be at work in half an hour |
| 14:40.35 | debianppc | i feel horrible |
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| 14:40.42 | zinx | a laden african swallow... |
| 14:40.54 | ethics | Spec, with or against the wind? |
| 14:40.56 | abrotman | debianppc: at least you're not throwing up |
| 14:40.57 | debianppc | but not a europeon swallow |
| 14:41.05 | debianppc | abrotman: thank god no |
| 14:41.22 | zinx | debianppc: a european swallow couldn't carry a coconut, silly |
| 14:41.31 | simonrvn | debianppc: a half teaspoon of baking soda in warm water, make sure to dissolve the baking soda. you'll burp like hell, but it works nice |
| 14:41.44 | debianppc | some physicians say milk is good, calcium counters the acid, some people say milk is not good because the fat and other stuff in it makes the stomach secrete more acid |
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| 14:41.52 | debianppc | i haven't got any baking soda |
| 14:42.03 | Nosf3ratu | I know this is a loaded question, but what's the preferred journaling filesystem? I know XFS largely performs the best, but I'm pretty sure it loses data. Does everyone just use EXT3? Is Reiser feasible or still alpha quality? |
| 14:42.06 | simonrvn | why the fuck not? ;) |
| 14:42.17 | debianppc | well |
| 14:42.19 | thomas_adam | Well, Milk of Magnesia does help. I suffer with acute heartburn at times -- feels like I'm having a heart-attack usually. |
| 14:42.20 | zinx | Nosf3ratu: use ext3 or xfs |
| 14:42.21 | debianppc | i dunno |
| 14:42.23 | simonrvn | i'm j/k |
| 14:42.26 | debianppc | i never felt the need to buy some |
| 14:42.27 | debianppc | heh |
| 14:42.41 | debianppc | i need to install slash'em on my ppc before i go to work |
| 14:42.47 | debianppc | need something to play |
| 14:42.47 | simonrvn | i always try to have some basic home remedies around |
| 14:42.49 | Morpheus8 | Nosf3ratu, I use reiserfs (3x) |
| 14:42.54 | stouset | Spec: The flight-speed of an African swallow is inversely proportional to the square of its weight and any burden it might be carrying and directly proportional to how aerodynamic its shape is, plus the power in its wings and its skill at flying. |
| 14:43.01 | Nosf3ratu | Then I'll use ext3...I'm sick of random things coming up missing. |
| 14:43.07 | debianppc | stouset: huh? |
| 14:43.13 | stouset | Spec: The average is around 186,000mi/sec |
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| 14:43.52 | debianppc | i don't care what you science says, a goddamned 5 ouce bird can NOT carry a 5 pound coconut |
| 14:43.55 | Morpheus8 | Nosf3ratu, what is the purpose of the filesystem? |
| 14:43.57 | debianppc | your* |
| 14:44.01 | Nosf3ratu | Morpheus8, home use |
| 14:44.05 | pack | Nosf3ratu: theres no good answer. ext3 is nice cause at its heart it's ext2 and ext2 is proven. People have had nightmares with reiser (though not in a few years) and XFS is a bit bolt on and seems to have weirdness with nfs and samba sometimes. |
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| 14:44.12 | stouset | debianppc: He could grip it by the husk... |
| 14:44.15 | Nosf3ratu | Morpheus8, the particular mount will be shared data over nfs |
| 14:44.19 | Nosf3ratu | (mp3 and etc) |
| 14:44.22 | debianppc | its not a matter of where it grips it |
| 14:44.26 | simonrvn | they wouldn't carry around cocnuts anyway, they don't eat cocnuts |
| 14:44.29 | debianppc | its a simple matter of weight ratios |
| 14:44.29 | Morpheus8 | Nosf3ratu, Then go with ext3 |
| 14:44.32 | simonrvn | coco* |
| 14:44.40 | coroner | clue searching...network adapter kernel module is not automatically loaded w/ custom kernel. why? |
| 14:44.43 | Nosf3ratu | Okay, sounds like a good idea. |
| 14:44.44 | Nosf3ratu | Thanks. |
| 14:44.47 | debianppc | anyway |
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| 14:44.49 | debianppc | take it easy |
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| 14:45.13 | greycat | how would xfs cause trouble with samba, since samba is totally in userspace? |
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| 14:45.22 | grahamoz | j macosx |
| 14:45.38 | dbeal | Is there a special reason why directory permissions (in debian) for "others" are so liberal? Is this just to make things easier for newbs? For example, if root makes a file in their home directory, it defaults to being world readable. |
| 14:45.56 | simonrvn | that's umask |
| 14:45.57 | pack | greycat: i'm not really sure, but theres a thread on the amd64 list about someone having weirdness. |
| 14:45.58 | bob2 | XFS causes trouble by replacing your files with a series of NULLs on hard crashes |
| 14:45.59 | greycat | dbeal: ls -ld /root |
| 14:46.02 | bob2 | which is awesome |
| 14:46.07 | greycat | dbeal: man chmod |
| 14:46.16 | simonrvn | which usually don't affect the data itself |
| 14:46.17 | greycat | and WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU LOGGING IN AS ROOT? |
| 14:46.21 | bob2 | dbeal: it's assumed that if root wants something private, it will be |
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| 14:46.38 | simonrvn | root is supposed to have a clue |
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| 14:46.43 | intension | !hi |
| 14:46.43 | dpkg | hello, intension |
| 14:47.30 | bob2 | Gil_: sorry I didn't make it down |
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| 14:47.42 | dbeal | I know, umask is 022 everywhere. I just don't really understand the mentality behind it. Normal users have the same situation, so I could have used any user as an example instead of root. |
| 14:48.03 | Nosf3ratu | bob2, that's exactly what I'm talking about. |
| 14:48.03 | greycat | dbeal: because there's nothing to hide, unless you MAKE something private, in which case you can chmod 600 it. |
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| 14:48.12 | Nosf3ratu | If I have a hard crash, I can just about count on losing something. |
| 14:48.19 | Nosf3ratu | Whole directories, usually. :\ |
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| 14:48.21 | dbeal | I seem to remember trying a more restrictive umask for root, but that it caused problems occasionally. |
| 14:48.28 | greycat | dbeal: why are you so concerned about whether someone can read your .bashrc |
| 14:49.06 | dbeal | greycat, it's this question that leads me to believe that there is a "liberal" security policy in place. Although I think or believe it's more unix than Debian per se. |
| 14:49.25 | bob2 | dbeal: you're mistaken |
| 14:49.32 | bob2 | Nosf3ratu: I just use ext3 these days |
| 14:49.34 | greycat | well yes, unix is anarchistic and open and friendly and education-oriented. |
| 14:49.38 | greycat | it's a community operating system. |
| 14:49.40 | dbeal | greycat, or for example, how a programs environment (or command line) might be visible to all users. |
| 14:49.42 | bob2 | Nosf3ratu: being a bit slower is better than eating my disk |
| 14:49.46 | Hairst | how can i extrakt .bin file? please help somebody |
| 14:49.48 | greycat | users are expected to read each other's dot files to see how to do things |
| 14:49.58 | streuner | Why the fuck there are still people here in #debian who telling people there might be an 'other OS' which is based on debian and should work better? |
| 14:50.02 | greycat | !tell Hairst about .bin |
| 14:50.26 | directhex|work | Hairst, you STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN ANY USEFUL INFO |
| 14:50.33 | bob2 | streuner: if you want to whinge about someone in particular, please do |
| 14:51.00 | directhex|work | !vague |
| 14:51.02 | directhex|work | hrm, isn't that the factoid? |
| 14:51.03 | simonrvn | ness |
| 14:51.04 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 14:51.06 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 14:51.06 | dpkg | VAGUENESS KILLS! |
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| 14:51.16 | streuner | bob2: there is a german 'sprichwort' 'getroffene Hunde bellen'... |
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| 14:51.19 | simonrvn | ok, there's 2 now :) |
| 14:51.21 | RichiH | kills kitten, i presume? |
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| 14:51.34 | greycat | RichiH: it's intentionally vague. |
| 14:51.35 | bob2 | I don't read german |
| 14:51.46 | directhex|work | nah, we must have a factoid that better describes people who repeat the question over and over, refusing to give clarifications, and only ever taking bad advice if at all |
| 14:51.48 | RichiH | greycat: heh |
| 14:51.54 | F-Lelo | Are any of you using beedingsnort rules? I would like to know your impressions of it |
| 14:52.07 | RichiH | bob2: i do |
| 14:52.12 | simonrvn | ... |
| 14:52.48 | Hairst | directhex|work @or a name given to CD images, in conjuction with a ".cue" file@ but i want to extract everything on the file to my pc ..do you know now waht i wantt? |
| 14:52.49 | qwertz__ | Is it possible to add two or three hosts to the -d option of iptables (can't use the netmask style in this case) or have I to add for every host a iptables entry in my script? |
| 14:53.03 | pack | eH! ken u t3ll m3 hw 2 nmap? kthxbye!11!! |
| 14:53.15 | RichiH | bob2: oh, the saying.. 'hit dogs bark' |
| 14:53.19 | Learn | translation ? |
| 14:53.29 | directhex|work | Hairst, have you run "file therandomthingy.bin" yet as requested? does the .bin come with anything else? |
| 14:53.41 | Learn | pack: man nmap |
| 14:53.48 | simonrvn | pack: k3n y00 stfukthxbyez1!!11!1 ;p |
| 14:54.24 | pack | learn : attempt at vague humor. perhaps it was to real to be funny |
| 14:54.33 | petemc | qwertz__: im pretty sure you'll need a line per host if using cidr isnt an option |
| 14:54.45 | Hairst | directhex|work it comes with one .cue file |
| 14:54.46 | wols | Hairst: look for bin2iso if it's CDR image file |
| 14:54.58 | greycat | Hairst: then use cdrdao |
| 14:54.59 | greycat | NEXT! |
| 14:55.04 | petemc | Hairst: mplayer can play .bin files directly |
| 14:55.05 | simonrvn | heh |
| 14:55.05 | tarzeau | NeXT, please. |
| 14:55.10 | directhex|work | Hairst, right. so why were you unable to say so 25 minutes ago? |
| 14:55.19 | directhex|work | petemc, where .bin means what exactly? |
| 14:55.22 | wols | directhex|work: typing is hard |
| 14:55.23 | Hairst | directhex|work sorry then.. |
| 14:55.29 | qwertz__ | petemc, thanks |
| 14:55.37 | simonrvn | !be a typing barbie |
| 14:55.38 | dpkg | Aww, typing is hard! Let's go shopping, simonrvn |
| 14:55.40 | petemc | directhex|work: he said he had a .cue file - i made some assumptions - and i dont feel i need to explain them to you |
| 14:55.42 | Learn | pack: Meh - i'll stfu then |
| 14:55.51 | nvz | this was brought to my attention earlier this moring by a fellow traveller of this IRCdom of plenty, why the hell isnt blootbot in sarge? |
| 14:55.51 | wols | binarydigit: bin is a CDR image with the error correction left in |
| 14:55.53 | directhex|work | bin/cue are a Global Hawk Technologies CDRWIN disk image. you can convert to .ISO with bchunk |
| 14:55.58 | nvz | I looked, couldnt find a reason |
| 14:56.01 | directhex|work | wols, not neccessarily |
| 14:56.23 | simonrvn | nvz: was supposed to be. got an update and everything |
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| 14:56.32 | wols | directhex|work: yes, it's pretty generic. but in this day and age of p2p it's a fairly safe bet :) |
| 14:56.36 | FieldySnuts | !hire simonrvn |
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| 14:56.47 | gromf | hello everybody ! |
| 14:56.51 | simonrvn | ugh. *HORRIBLE* job |
| 14:56.54 | directhex|work | wols, cdrwin images haven't been used for warez since safedisc 2 stopped being used |
| 14:56.56 | FieldySnuts | lol |
| 14:57.15 | wols | directhex|work: guess what's used for svcds :) |
| 14:57.16 | gromf | Can someone help me with a samba print server ? I would like to share *just one* printer |
| 14:57.29 | simonrvn | use cups |
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| 14:58.46 | simonrvn | cups does ipp, which winbloze clients grok |
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| 14:58.51 | directhex|work | wols, it's a long time since i grew out of downloading crap off the internet |
| 14:59.16 | petemc | directhex|work: where do you get your crap now? |
| 14:59.19 | gromf | simonrvn: what does "grok" mean ? |
| 14:59.20 | wols | simonrvn: not the old ones |
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| 14:59.27 | directhex|work | petemc, play.com for the most part |
| 14:59.29 | simonrvn | wols: true |
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| 14:59.45 | simonrvn | @dict grok |
| 14:59.47 | ravenbird | Dictionary 'grok' (1 of 2): /grok/, var. /grok/ vt. [common; from the novel "Stranger in a Strange Land", by Robert A. Heinlein, where it is a Martian word meaning literally `to drink' and metaphorically `to be one with'] The emphatic form is `grok in fullness'. 1. To understand. Connotes intimate and exhaustive knowledge. When you claim to `grok' some ... |
| 15:00.25 | gromf | simonrvn: how can I tell cups to let my box see the web page on the port 631 ? |
| 15:00.27 | RichiH | he who does not know grok, not read stranger in a strange world, he has |
| 15:00.35 | greycat | or the jargon file |
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| 15:00.46 | greycat | or anything written on the internet in the last 20 years |
| 15:00.53 | RichiH | which is a Bad Thing, as stranger in a strange world is a friggin' great book! |
| 15:00.56 | simonrvn | gromf: i don't know. i'm lucky enough not to have to deal with crappy clients like that |
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| 15:01.06 | greycat | RichiH: s/world/land/ |
| 15:01.13 | RichiH | greycat: ah, true |
| 15:01.20 | simonrvn | i read the book. really good |
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| 15:01.31 | RichiH | greycat: been too long since i last read it :( |
| 15:01.46 | RichiH | simonrvn: indeed. one of heinlein's best |
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| 15:01.57 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 15:02.08 | greycat | I think Moon is a Harsh Mistress is his best though |
| 15:02.30 | RichiH | along with tramp royale, the moon is a harsh mistress, citizen to the galaxy and time enough for love |
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| 15:02.50 | RichiH | greycat: yes, it's definately better than siasl |
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| 15:03.04 | jharrisonwk | greycat: lol |
| 15:03.07 | RichiH | greycat: but then, tmiahm is the best book he wrote. ever. so that's easy ;) |
| 15:03.10 | Rockret | does anyone knows where I can find plug-in to ARK .. read .RAR ? |
| 15:03.21 | RichiH | Rockret: apt-get install rar unrar |
| 15:03.50 | Rockret | thanks |
| 15:03.55 | RichiH | dpkg: find dvi2pdf |
| 15:04.06 | RichiH | np |
| 15:04.06 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'dvi2pdf' returned no results. |
| 15:04.48 | FieldySnuts | !bite RichiH |
| 15:05.14 | RichiH | FieldySnuts: help me find that trice-damned program, instead :p |
| 15:05.47 | RichiH | friend of mine swears he has no other sources.list entries than the debian ones. still, he has dvi2pdf |
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| 15:05.50 | cahoot | RichiH: dvipdfm not what you want? |
| 15:06.12 | Spec | stouset: you're telling me the average flight speed of an african swallow is 186 thousand miles per second? |
| 15:06.29 | stouset | Yes, actually. |
| 15:06.29 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 15:06.31 | streuner | dvipdfm-cjk - A DVI to PDF translator with CJK support (dummy package) |
| 15:06.31 | streuner | dvipdfmx - A DVI to PDF translator with CJK support |
| 15:06.32 | Spec | stouset: the bird would disintegrate when it's flying |
| 15:06.35 | tarzeau | !dachs FieldySnuts |
| 15:06.36 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 15:06.43 | stouset | Spec: Not if it was flying in space. |
| 15:06.44 | FieldySnuts | @aussiesmite tarzeau |
| 15:06.45 | ravenbird | tarzeau: what the do-dar are you drinking mate |
| 15:06.49 | Spec | stouset: true, true :p |
| 15:06.51 | RichiH | cahoot: woot! |
| 15:07.00 | RichiH | cahoot: i did not know there was a dvipdfm |
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| 15:07.08 | greycat | jharrisonwk: sure you want to do that? |
| 15:07.11 | RichiH | cahoot: up to now, i mostly used texi |
| 15:07.17 | stouset | Spec: Also, at that speed it would have infinite mass, so it could tear to shreds all it wants and still be intact ;) |
| 15:07.19 | jharrisonwk | greycat: sure why not |
| 15:07.28 | Spec | hehe |
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| 15:07.37 | FromTO | I got this new MP3 player I am trying to mount with no luck. dmesg says "SCSI device sda: 2051809 512-byte hdwr sectors (1051 MB) says" but when I try and add a /dev/sda mount in fstab and try to mount the disk it says /dev/sda does not exist?? |
| 15:07.40 | cahoot | RichiH: IIRC LyX uses that |
| 15:07.44 | jharrisonwk | greycat: I dont like lol any more then the rest of them but if it gets you to kill the honey badgers thats fine with me |
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| 15:07.47 | greycat | FromTO: fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 15:08.00 | FieldySnuts | sda1 |
| 15:08.02 | stouset | FromTO: You can't mount a disk. You have to mount a partition. |
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| 15:08.13 | FieldySnuts | mount partitions not disks, unless it's a cd/dvd |
| 15:08.14 | simonrvn | RichiH: tetex-bin: /usr/bin/dvipdfm |
| 15:08.24 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: mmmmmm grilled octopus |
| 15:08.32 | FromTO | greycat: nothing shows up |
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| 15:08.43 | RichiH | simonrvn: heh, well, i only used texi2pdf with it |
| 15:08.47 | mtnman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:08.55 | tim_h_ | FromTO: lsmod shows usb-storage |
| 15:08.57 | tim_h_ | ? |
| 15:09.19 | simonrvn | or a zip disk |
| 15:09.26 | FieldySnuts | he's got that part right, he's trying to mount the wrong thing |
| 15:09.43 | simonrvn | the 100 MB ones anyway |
| 15:09.50 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: ick |
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| 15:10.01 | jharrisonwk | does the sony dsc-w5 work with linux? |
| 15:10.02 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: you can keep mine. i prefer other stuff |
| 15:10.11 | FromTO | tim_h_ lsmod shows usb_storage 59456 0 |
| 15:10.14 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: octopus is gooodddd |
| 15:10.17 | simonrvn | i've had calamari, good stuff when done right, rubbery otherwise |
| 15:10.22 | LSorensen | jharrisonwk: what is that? digital camera or something? |
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| 15:10.31 | jharrisonwk | LSorensen: yes |
| 15:10.32 | mtnman | simonrvn: i could say the same of chicken. |
| 15:10.35 | FieldySnuts | FromTO: you have that part working fine. you're just trying to mount the wrong thing, which is why greycat asked you do to what he did. |
| 15:10.42 | simonrvn | mtnman: hehe, too true :) |
| 15:11.02 | mtnman | simonrvn: especially when it _was_ a rubber chicken. |
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| 15:11.23 | simonrvn | oooh *ppzzzztt* (bill the cat imitation) |
| 15:11.26 | jharrisonwk | looking into a digital camera and want linux compatible |
| 15:11.57 | aFlag | where can i find a description of what is in each sarge cd? |
| 15:12.00 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: can I interest you in some squid? |
| 15:12.11 | nvz | jharrisonwk: anything with removable media or usb-mass storage, which is pretty much every camera ever made |
| 15:12.15 | FieldySnuts | that's tough to tell, in my experience it's been pretty much bring it home and try (usually over usb, usb-storage), and be sure to ask the store about its return policy. |
| 15:12.16 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: i don't think i like. no you can't. but i get weak knees for sweets |
| 15:12.19 | tim_h_ | FromTO: It might not help you in this case but "scsiinfo -l" is very handy to identify scsi partitions. apt-get install scsitools |
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| 15:12.29 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: what about conch? |
| 15:12.34 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: i'm going to starbucks in a few minutes... |
| 15:12.41 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yes i love sweets in a couch |
| 15:12.45 | simonrvn | ugh, starbucks. eveeil |
| 15:12.46 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: they have starbucks in sweden? |
| 15:12.56 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: no no |
| 15:12.59 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: CONCH |
| 15:13.00 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: i hate shells or conch , |
| 15:13.01 | FieldySnuts | i used to like eating squid. then i used some for fish bait, after cleaning those nasty things out, i can't quite eat it |
| 15:13.11 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: nah. no way i'm going to even smell at it |
| 15:13.18 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: its good |
| 15:13.21 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: SWITZERLAND! |
| 15:13.23 | streuner | aFlag: that would imply that someone had to download all CD's first..., no a factoid exists for woody CD's |
| 15:13.30 | streuner | s/had/have/ |
| 15:13.31 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: I meant switzerland :) |
| 15:13.33 | simonrvn | heh. if you eat animal, i think you should be able to stomach gutting it. IMO |
| 15:13.39 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: hey what about lobster? |
| 15:13.55 | darxeth | how can i search for fonts? i want to install arabic fonts... |
| 15:13.59 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: ill gut whatever you want |
| 15:14.05 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: nope, neither |
| 15:14.05 | FieldySnuts | !gut jharrisonwk |
| 15:14.13 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: i generally don't like seafood |
| 15:14.18 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: goats, sheep, chickens, cows, etc... |
| 15:14.23 | stouset | tarzeau: Heathen. |
| 15:14.24 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: no seafood? :( |
| 15:14.29 | tim_h_ | darxeth: apt-cache search font? |
| 15:14.35 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: and no vegetables |
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| 15:14.45 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: we have the fish here that tastes like butter |
| 15:14.48 | streuner | argh, its impossible to see all factoids from greycat... |
| 15:14.50 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you wont even know its fish |
| 15:14.54 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yeah sheep, rubbits, cows, chicken, all fine |
| 15:15.01 | greycat | !cd contents |
| 15:15.01 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. |
| 15:15.03 | streuner | !listauth greycat |
| 15:15.04 | simonrvn | jharrisonwk: yes. i would gut my own food too, or go pick it, or whatever. it shows respect for the creature you're about to eat, that you're willing to deal with it in life as well as death |
| 15:15.05 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'greycat' (15 of 822): /dev/input/mice ;; CMD: pay (.*?) (.*?) ;; CMD: readmesmite (.*?) ;; be bash barbie ;; clit ;; emoticon ;; hitachi vibrator ;; impatience ;; rn ;; srs ;; vim for windows ;; wdyc ;; woody screwup ;; woody xf4 ;; worked in 2.4. |
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| 15:15.07 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: no vegetables? |
| 15:15.10 | streuner | greycat: yeah, that one. |
| 15:15.16 | tarzeau | !clit |
| 15:15.16 | dpkg | well, clit is slang for the clitoris, or that little pointer-device on the home row of some laptops |
| 15:15.16 | greycat | !woody cd |
| 15:15.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, woody cd is a bad idea, but available at http://www.greenbush.com/, or http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-cd/woody/i386/debian-30r1-i386-binary-1.iso, or http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-cd/woody/i386/debian-30r1-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 15:15.21 | tarzeau | !hitachi vibrator |
| 15:15.21 | dpkg | it has been said that hitachi vibrator is http://www.libida.com/content/shop/toys/item.php?view=toys&product_id=001037 |
| 15:15.29 | FieldySnuts | oh my |
| 15:15.30 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: you must have indian in your blood |
| 15:15.39 | simonrvn | jharrisonwk: yes. i'm metis |
| 15:15.46 | greycat | I guess someone overwrote the cd contents factoid. |
| 15:15.49 | tarzeau | !listauth tarzeau |
| 15:15.49 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'tarzeau' (15 of 82): amiga on shell ;; amigshell ;; bouncy ;; driftnet ;; gnome2 release ;; insult-tr ;; k&r ;; lolita ;; my friend ;; myass ;; pet ;; ralph ;; slutware ;; timidity ;; webredirect. |
| 15:15.49 | greycat | !factinfo cd contents |
| 15:15.50 | dpkg | cd contents -- last modified at Thu Jun 9 09:47:39 2005 by dondelelcaro!~don@archimedes.ucr.edu; it has been requested 5 times, last by greycat, 49s ago. |
| 15:16.03 | tarzeau | heh |
| 15:16.05 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: thats an idian tribe found in the north USA/CA right? |
| 15:16.16 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you like the possum? |
| 15:16.30 | FieldySnuts | !slutware |
| 15:16.31 | dpkg | i guess slutware is a variation of slackware |
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| 15:16.37 | aFlag | streuner, what do you mean? I want to know what packages are in each cd on sarge |
| 15:16.37 | streuner | uh, clever |
| 15:16.39 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: insult-tr test |
| 15:16.41 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: only cuddling. not eating |
| 15:16.50 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: they are tasty |
| 15:16.53 | greycat | aFlag: nobody here knows. grab the CDs and find out, or do what the "cd contents" factoid said to do. |
| 15:16.59 | streuner | aFlag: greycat already told you... |
| 15:17.01 | simonrvn | jharrisonwk: mixed people. european and abo (cree, ojibwe, in the west, mic'mac and other nations in the east, well, you get the idea ;) |
| 15:17.02 | tarzeau | !my friend |
| 15:17.03 | dpkg | methinks my friend is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/porn-get |
| 15:17.10 | darxeth | tim_h_ it says: xfonts-intl-arabic is already the newest version, and i still cant see arabic when i try to write in arabic in a word editor, why? |
| 15:17.11 | tarzeau | !forget my friend |
| 15:17.11 | dpkg | i forgot my friend, tarzeau |
| 15:17.17 | tarzeau | !lolita |
| 15:17.17 | dpkg | i guess lolita is Lesbian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 |
| 15:17.20 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 15:17.21 | tarzeau | !forget lolita |
| 15:17.21 | dpkg | i forgot lolita, tarzeau |
| 15:17.23 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: insult-tr? |
| 15:17.23 | dpkg | (/me gets some turkish friends and then we sing "IPNE <name>") |
| 15:17.24 | aFlag | greycat, i didn't think anyone here knew, but i thought it might be some page with it |
| 15:17.28 | tarzeau | !gnome2 release |
| 15:17.29 | dpkg | gnome2 release is, like, scheduled for june 21 (2002), according to http://www.gnome.org |
| 15:17.31 | simonrvn | darxeth: use the font |
| 15:17.32 | darxeth | dpkg i want to be your friend too, you are so cool! |
| 15:17.32 | dpkg | darxeth: what are you talking about? |
| 15:17.35 | greycat | tarzeau: careful... |
| 15:17.44 | greycat | tarzeau: it'll start to /ignore you if you "forget" too many times |
| 15:18.05 | simonrvn | @forget lolita |
| 15:18.06 | ravenbird | i forgot lolita, simonrvn |
| 15:18.11 | darxeth | dpkg i dunno.. your nick is cool and... whatever :D ;> |
| 15:18.11 | dpkg | darxeth: what are you talking about? |
| 15:18.13 | simonrvn | @forget my friend |
| 15:18.13 | ravenbird | simonrvn: i forgot my friend |
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| 15:18.24 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: we only have lucayan indians here and caribs but they died out when slaving started after columbus came |
| 15:18.29 | darxeth | simonrvn what do you mean use the font? |
| 15:18.31 | tim_h_ | darxeth: probably because you dont use that fonts, and you shoulf look for a arabig true type font I guess. |
| 15:18.42 | simonrvn | darxeth: use the font in the document/app |
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| 15:19.04 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: like racoons? |
| 15:19.12 | simonrvn | jharrisonwk: yeh, i'm pretty familiar with the carib and taino people, and what happened |
| 15:19.25 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: well alrighty then |
| 15:19.33 | tarzeau | greycat: no more forgets |
| 15:19.35 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: where were the caribs found mostly? |
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| 15:19.49 | darxeth | tim_h_ simonrvn i did apt-get install [font] ... what else do you mean? i can switch to write in english and hebrew but still not arabic... |
| 15:19.57 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: not on the grill |
| 15:20.21 | simonrvn | jharrisonwk: i try to find out what happened, and if any of the people survived the holocaust. hmm, /me tries to remember the territorial map... |
| 15:20.27 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you only eat the traditional meats then? |
| 15:20.45 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yes then |
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| 15:20.52 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you are missing out |
| 15:20.59 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: you ever had the monkey brain? |
| 15:21.01 | simonrvn | cuba, jamaica, taino cuba also, and further down. both spread throughout the area |
| 15:21.05 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: probably, but i don't care. YUCK no |
| 15:21.14 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: very good |
| 15:21.22 | simonrvn | had interations with the south americans peoples too IIRC |
| 15:21.30 | jharrisonwk | simonrvn: lucayans where mostly bahamas area though |
| 15:21.35 | simonrvn | oh ok |
| 15:21.45 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 15:21.46 | jharrisonwk | caribs were hostile and moved around a lot |
| 15:21.50 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 15:22.03 | jharrisonwk | the caribs chased the lucayans up from south america and stole their women |
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| 15:22.21 | simonrvn | i see |
| 15:22.25 | jharrisonwk | ate them too |
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| 15:22.42 | simonrvn | yummay |
| 15:22.45 | MichaelSaunders | I run an ISP in australia I have 100Mbs of capacity. I want to run a debian how do I set it up easily |
| 15:22.53 | simonrvn | </facetious> |
| 15:22.57 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: im just kidding about the monkey brain hehe |
| 15:23.07 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: and the possum and racoon too |
| 15:23.09 | jharrisonwk | :-P |
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| 15:23.16 | greycat | MichaelSaunders: /msg dpkg install debian |
| 15:23.43 | salahuddin | while using debian if i resetup windows how to recover the grub or lilo ? |
| 15:23.47 | MichaelSaunders | greycat: sorry debian mirror |
| 15:23.57 | wols | MichaelSaunders: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.html |
| 15:24.16 | simonrvn | yay, another mirror in .au. the users there will be happy |
| 15:24.16 | greycat | salahuddin: boot the install CD, get to a shell, mount your root file system, chroot into it, and rerun the boot loader installer |
| 15:24.31 | salahuddin | thanx |
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| 15:24.32 | bob2 | just one working .au mirror would be good |
| 15:24.41 | simonrvn | hey bob2 |
| 15:24.43 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: i'm away in starbucks for frappucino and sweets |
| 15:24.46 | bob2 | all the mirrors are either broken, incomplete or out of date |
| 15:24.49 | bob2 | or all 3 |
| 15:24.52 | bob2 | hey simonrvn |
| 15:24.54 | simonrvn | :( |
| 15:25.01 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: mmmmmm frappucino |
| 15:25.11 | bob2 | which is ok, now I have dsl I can just use ftp.debian.org :-) |
| 15:25.13 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: yes :) |
| 15:25.27 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: ffffffrrrrraaaaapppuuuucccciiinnnooo |
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| 15:25.43 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: teepee for my bung holelio |
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| 15:27.59 | simonrvn | bob2: oh cool. when did you get dsl? |
| 15:28.12 | bob2 | a while ago |
| 15:28.24 | bob2 | but it was irritatingly unstable until recently |
| 15:28.33 | bob2 | and multiple techs came out but could not figure it out |
| 15:28.37 | fefe | what is the name of samba's autoconfig tool...the wizard like thing? |
| 15:28.39 | bob2 | until one went and HAD A LOOK AT THE LINE |
| 15:28.41 | simonrvn | ok. nice, innit :) |
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| 15:28.48 | simonrvn | ha |
| 15:28.50 | bob2 | and noticed that the part that comes into the house was underwater |
| 15:28.57 | bob2 | which somewhat reduces it's efectiveness |
| 15:29.01 | bob2 | so now that's fixed |
| 15:29.02 | RichiH | bob2: o_0 |
| 15:29.04 | simonrvn | uh, yeh :) |
| 15:29.10 | simonrvn | fefe: swat? |
| 15:29.12 | wols | bob2: proper insulation! |
| 15:29.17 | bob2 | RichiH: it's in a metal box on the side of the house, under the gutter |
| 15:29.18 | jharrisonwk | dsl sucks |
| 15:29.24 | bob2 | RichiH: when it rained, it filled up with water |
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| 15:29.33 | bob2 | jharrisonwk: about 2% of .au's population can get cable |
| 15:29.37 | simonrvn | better than dialup... |
| 15:29.44 | bob2 | wols: yeah, it's in a ball of silican goo now ;) |
| 15:29.45 | jharrisonwk | bob2: dsl still sucks |
| 15:29.55 | RichiH | bob2: just drill a hole in the bottom ;p |
| 15:29.56 | bob2 | jharrisonwk: compared to what? ethernet? |
| 15:30.00 | bob2 | RichiH: haha |
| 15:30.01 | fefe | simonrvn: no its something else...autmotically starts when I run a debian install but not working in ubuntu... |
| 15:30.13 | bob2 | RichiH: I didn't even imagine something like that could happen |
| 15:30.16 | kevin__ | jim: got my sound working yesterday, it was the fact that my alsa had corrupted on download |
| 15:30.20 | bob2 | fefe: you're in the wrong channel |
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| 15:30.30 | bob2 | fefe: people not answering you in #ubuntu is not a reason to bug folks here |
| 15:30.31 | simonrvn | wouldn't know about ubuntu, nor what you mean besides the init script (samba) |
| 15:30.33 | jharrisonwk | bob2: fibre |
| 15:30.48 | simonrvn | oh bah, not everyone can even afford fibre |
| 15:30.48 | fefe | bob2: debain based :P |
| 15:30.55 | fefe | *debian |
| 15:31.01 | bob2 | fefe: doesn't matter |
| 15:31.02 | jharrisonwk | fefe: ubuntu is NOT debian |
| 15:31.20 | bob2 | yadayada |
| 15:31.23 | RichiH | somehow, /me doubts fefe is _the_ fefe |
| 15:31.24 | greycat | !they don't know |
| 15:31.25 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 15:31.30 | bob2 | dealt with, no need to rant |
| 15:31.30 | simonrvn | just be patient, you'll get answered eventually |
| 15:31.41 | wols | RichiH: with a sg hostmask VERY VERY unlikely... |
| 15:31.46 | RichiH | bob2: possible, yes. happen to yourself, never |
| 15:31.52 | RichiH | wols: my point, yah |
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| 15:32.06 | hyhy | Hello, quick linux newbie question. How do I check my remaining hard drive space? |
| 15:32.12 | simonrvn | df, di |
| 15:32.14 | wols | RichiH: and if the real one would ask questions like him... oh well... |
| 15:32.24 | wols | hyhy: df and du |
| 15:32.30 | wols | simonrvn: check your typing :P |
| 15:32.45 | hyhy | Like, what's the command in console? |
| 15:32.48 | simonrvn | no, it exists. just forgot du :) |
| 15:32.48 | green_earz | hyhy: df -h |
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| 15:33.16 | hyhy | Thanks |
| 15:33.40 | simonrvn | hmm, time for lunch |
| 15:34.28 | green_earz | hyhy: and usefull link for debian know how is > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html |
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| 15:35.05 | wols | simonrvn: so which package has "di" again? |
| 15:35.11 | simonrvn | di |
| 15:35.35 | streuner | !info di |
| 15:35.38 | dpkg | di: (advanced df like disk information utility), section utils, is optional. Version: 3.11.dfsg.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 80 kB |
| 15:36.59 | raf256 | its so nice of skype to release a neat debian package, isnt it? |
| 15:37.02 | raf256 | !skype |
| 15:37.02 | dpkg | hmm... skype is a non-free (beer) voip application that is cross platform. See http://www.skype.com/, or based on proprietary, closed-source protocols |
| 15:37.32 | streuner | raf256: it would be nicer if there sources is opensource ;-) |
| 15:37.49 | raf256 | streuner: well.. some companies actually want to make money ;) |
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| 15:38.03 | Learn | raf256: you can make money with support |
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| 15:38.25 | raf256 | Learn: hmm yeah, but they should have _freedom_ to choose the way how they want to earn money.. :) |
| 15:38.26 | zinx | for something like skype, you can make money with services |
| 15:38.30 | petemc | support? skype just works for the most part |
| 15:38.34 | zinx | (and that's exactly what they do) |
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| 15:41.45 | dbeal | You can be open-source, open standards, and open protocol, and still charge money for your software. |
| 15:42.00 | kevin__ | well it is getting time for Lunch so have a good lunch time and I will see you all later |
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| 15:44.04 | simonrvn | 0? |
| 15:44.08 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 15:45.30 | nvz | I'm feeling like a bicycle all of a sudden |
| 15:45.41 | greycat | "too tired"? |
| 15:45.44 | nvz | yep |
| 15:45.49 | bob2 | oh lord |
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| 15:46.07 | Despite | help me please, i try to setup a PCMCIA DE-660 whis is supported by pcnet_cs but it seem that it's recognized as an anonymous memory card and a dont have eth0 device! what should i do please! |
| 15:46.27 | nvz | must be the daylight. I am not used to it |
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| 15:46.41 | nvz | I should close the door, and cover up the windows.. |
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| 15:47.22 | rocky23 | can someone tell me what i could use to clone a floppy disk to an image and then clone it back to another floppy, so it contains all the boot options/files/size of disk etc |
| 15:47.49 | Despite | dd if= of= |
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| 15:47.56 | cup | how does debian do auto hardware discovery? Is it the discover tool? |
| 15:47.58 | netman1 | rock23: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=filename |
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| 15:48.07 | nvz | cup: yes |
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| 15:48.49 | Despite | is there a pcmcia guru ? PLEASE! |
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| 15:48.53 | LSorensen | cup: discover and hotplug |
| 15:49.05 | rocky23 | netman1: will that format if if i do dd if=/home/test of=/dev/fd0 now ? |
| 15:49.06 | LSorensen | Despite: does anyone remember what the acronym means? |
| 15:49.12 | nvz | I've only been up like 8 hours, but I am tired as hell all of a sudden |
| 15:49.13 | JohnFlux | I install vsftpd, and can log in but I can't upload files. I got the permissions correct... |
| 15:49.24 | netman1 | rocky23: formating is an unknown thing by Linux |
| 15:49.26 | cup | cheers |
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| 15:49.29 | LSorensen | rocky23: formating (low level) of a floppy is different than formating a filesystem on it, so no |
| 15:49.37 | LSorensen | netman1: it most certainly is not |
| 15:49.44 | rocky23 | ok thanks ill just pre format it before i copy |
| 15:49.58 | LSorensen | netman1: the linux superformat utility is probably the best floppy formatter there is |
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| 15:50.25 | LSorensen | netman1: and mkfs is a utility to format filesystems. |
| 15:50.41 | netman1 | LSorensen: but as far as I know it doe low level formats, not dos (= filesystem formats) |
| 15:50.42 | LSorensen | netman1: although format probably shouldn't ever have been applied to the creation of filesystems |
| 15:50.57 | colmore | hello, has anyone here had any luck getting the digitizer on a wacom tablet PC to work? |
| 15:51.06 | JohnFlux | as an ftp user, i can create a directory, but can't upload a file! |
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| 15:51.19 | LSorensen | netman1: superformat does low level on floppy, on dos format did low level and filesystem on floppies and just filesystem on other disks |
| 15:51.40 | LSorensen | colmore: I did once many years ago. The xfree86 howto's worked just fine |
| 15:52.01 | netman1 | LSorensen: it's a distinction I thought rocky wouldn't make. |
| 15:52.11 | LSorensen | netman1: it was technically wrong of dos to call it formating when doing filesystem creation |
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| 15:52.27 | netman1 | Lsorensen : couldn't agree more. |
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| 15:53.16 | LSorensen | netman1: so linux does know what formating is (that's what superformat does) and it is required on floppies, at least once (unless thye come preformated and even then they are sometimes deteriourated enough to need it). making filesystems (amazing how mkfs is exactly that) is a much better name for what dos/windows calls formating |
| 15:53.41 | rocky23 | netman1: i know the difference between formatting and fs creation, i just wondered if there was an all in one utilty that would preformat matching on the source image parameters etc |
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| 15:53.50 | cup | when I plug my usb mouse in, the usbmouse module does not automatical load into the kernel, any pointers on where to start? |
| 15:53.56 | LSorensen | netman1: I think solaris (at least used to) call it formating when laying out partitions on a drive, and then they would mkfs the filesystem on those partitions |
| 15:54.15 | LSorensen | rocky23: well superformat is great. It has enough options to do almost anything you want |
| 15:54.24 | LSorensen | cup: install hotplug? |
| 15:54.34 | FieldySnuts | ~start a world war |
| 15:54.34 | apt | Pakistan will get turned into a sheet of glass by Iran! |
| 15:54.34 | cup | yes |
| 15:54.37 | LSorensen | cup: assuming your kernel didn't have hotplug support turned off |
| 15:55.26 | colmore | LSorensen: they haven't been working for me, sadly |
| 15:55.49 | colmore | They seem to suggest I'm going to need to run setserial, but don't exactly explain what I'm supposed to do with it |
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| 15:57.38 | LSorensen | colmore: setserial? isn't it usb? |
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| 15:59.36 | colmore | no, it's a built in digitizer on a convertable tablet laptop |
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| 15:59.38 | smo_ | hi |
| 15:59.42 | colmore | it's serial |
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| 15:59.56 | smo_ | what can i use to read .fla ??? |
| 16:00.03 | xzgv | i'm trying pekwm, installed/tried fspanel and fbpanel to compliment it. Are there any other lite panels? |
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| 16:01.07 | colmore | (though honestly i can't understand why, it's 2005 and windows certainly has an easier time juggling USB devices than serial devices.. you'd think they could just emulate USB) |
| 16:01.11 | LSorensen | colmore: oh I see. how old is that? |
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| 16:01.15 | colmore | brand new |
| 16:01.27 | LSorensen | colmore: hmm, I hope it's not proprietary in some way |
| 16:01.28 | colmore | toshiba R10, it was just introduced to the market in may |
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| 16:01.39 | LSorensen | colmore: I have only ever used external usb wacom tables |
| 16:01.50 | colmore | no, people have gotten other toshiba tablets to work, but i can't seem to follow in their footsteps |
| 16:01.55 | et | smo_: it's a flash format, perhaps you can use ffmpeg to play it like swf |
| 16:01.55 | LSorensen | colmore: if they were smart it should be the same. |
| 16:02.14 | LSorensen | colmore: hmm, not sure. I guess I can't help since I haven't used the serial models and don't know what would be involved. |
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| 16:04.01 | colmore | (hold on i'll try to find some instructions, and maybe you could explain them in more detail if you have experience configuring hardware and X, which I don't) |
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| 16:04.19 | jblack | Hi. I'm looking for the svn for acpi-support. Does anybody know where it is? (I don't see it listed at http://svn.debian.org) |
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| 16:04.40 | jblack | I'm also looking for a handful of other things like acpi-support, which don't seem to be listed there. |
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| 16:05.21 | greycat | sounds like a google question to me |
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| 16:07.25 | jblack | greycat: It doesn't seem to be much of a google question to me. I'm already at debian's authoritive site for svn, and its not listed. The stuff that does show up at google is googlesludge. |
| 16:07.55 | bob2 | jblack: mjg59 would know |
| 16:08.20 | jblack | would he know about the whole pile, or just acpi-support specifically? |
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| 16:08.38 | bob2 | about acpi stuff in general, yeah |
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| 16:08.42 | zetor | hi all! |
| 16:08.56 | huron_ | hi all, I'm wondering if it's possible to use scp and tar with a pipe in between ... |
| 16:09.00 | huron_ | lease register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel |
| 16:09.00 | huron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.00 | huron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.05 | huron_ | oups |
| 16:09.16 | huron_ | something like scp me@host:file.tar.gz | tar xvf |
| 16:09.19 | greycat | huron_: yes. |
| 16:09.26 | greycat | huron_: but use ssh, not scp. |
| 16:09.29 | et | huron_: use ssh instead |
| 16:09.34 | jblack | (I'm attempting to head off the same round of questions over the next X days for things like "kernel-package", "kbd-chooser", "kernel-wedge", "base-config.udeb"... |
| 16:09.46 | greycat | ssh me@host cat file.tar.gz | tar xvf - |
| 16:09.48 | bob2 | jblack: they're in d-i cvs |
| 16:10.09 | bob2 | er, svn |
| 16:10.12 | zetor | anyone knows if Gnome 2.10 is ok in Sid now? |
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| 16:10.21 | greycat | !bts |
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| 16:10.22 | dpkg | i guess bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 16:10.25 | huron_ | greyson: ok, I'll try that |
| 16:10.34 | jblack | Which is at svn.debian.org I believe. These aren't listed on the list |
| 16:10.35 | greyson | ?? |
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| 16:11.17 | streuner | zetor: if you refering to all parts are uploadet then i would say yes |
| 16:11.38 | streuner | s/uploadet/uploaded/ |
| 16:11.39 | greyson | greycat: Actually... there's some weirdness about that if you're going to a different architecture... uuencoding and then uudecoding on the other side fixes it. |
| 16:11.40 | pink1 | hola - Can anyone recommend an IRC bot for me to instal on Sarge on my server ? |
| 16:11.41 | huron_ | greyson: actually, my goal is to untar the file on a different machine |
| 16:11.56 | huron_ | I'm not sure I quite understand your advice ... |
| 16:12.02 | smo_ | what can i use to read .fla files ??? |
| 16:12.13 | et | smo_: does ffmpeg help? |
| 16:12.20 | greycat | greyson: uh, no, there is not. |
| 16:12.22 | K_Dallas | smo_, the flashplayer plugin then open it in your browser |
| 16:12.25 | zetor | streuner: thanx! i might try dist-upgrade then... |
| 16:12.30 | smo_ | i know dallas |
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| 16:12.41 | K_Dallas | smo_, i am not sure but maybe there is a standalone flashplayer too |
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| 16:12.44 | smo_ | but not in a browser, possible?? |
| 16:12.52 | streuner | zetor: /msg dpkg upgrade tests |
| 16:12.55 | smo_ | i have plashplayr |
| 16:12.56 | greycat | greyson: unless you've managed to dig up systems on which tar(1) produces a different format |
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| 16:13.00 | smo_ | but problem with apt |
| 16:13.04 | greyson | greycat: "Archive contains [obsolescent] base-64 headers" or some such. |
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| 16:13.13 | smo_ | 1 dependance is unavailable.. |
| 16:13.16 | greycat | sounds like you have incompatible tars. |
| 16:13.18 | et | huron_: you need to connect through ssh to the remote machine and run 'cat file' there, and untar it locally from stdin |
| 16:13.23 | et | huron_: like greycat said |
| 16:13.25 | zetor | streuner: thanx! |
| 16:13.28 | greyson | greycat: I was dealing with this yesterday going from a Sparc to an intel box. |
| 16:13.41 | streuner | zetor: so which version of debian do you running actually? |
| 16:13.41 | Delph | huron_: you might need a few -c's or a > file in that pipe as well. |
| 16:13.41 | greyson | greycat: Both debian. |
| 16:14.07 | greycat | greyson: still sounds like a tar bug to me. perhaps GNU tar has a bug on 64 bit arches. |
| 16:14.17 | zetor | streuner: sarge |
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| 16:14.30 | greyson | greycat: The sparc and intel *are* both 32-bit (sparcstation20) |
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| 16:14.46 | Delph | you want to cat the tar file into a ssh session that is running the remote command untar -f - in the correct directory. |
| 16:14.47 | streuner | zetor: upgrade tests was for woody->sarge |
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| 16:15.01 | huron_ | et: I get the idea ... but the cat will just output the file to stdout, I need to go back to the destination machine in between (?) to untar it there |
| 16:15.07 | streuner | zetor: how long do you use debian sarge? |
| 16:15.13 | yipstar | howdy debian users |
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| 16:15.21 | yipstar | I just installed 3.1 sarge |
| 16:15.39 | yipstar | and would like to add the etch testing branch to my apt sources file |
| 16:15.53 | et | huron_: the pipe is made on your machine, locally. |
| 16:15.55 | zetor | streuner: ok...i usually net-install testing..then dist-upgrade(after base-install) |
| 16:16.05 | yipstar | what is the correct lines to add to my /etc/apt/sources.list field? |
| 16:16.14 | streuner | yipstar: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 16:16.18 | greyson | greycat: The only other difference is that one was sarge, and one was woody. |
| 16:16.22 | pink1 | hola - Can anyone recommend an IRC bot for me to instal on Sarge on my server ? |
| 16:16.25 | et | huron_: just type ssh me@host cat file | tar xv |
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| 16:16.39 | yipstar | streuner: ty |
| 16:17.04 | streuner | hm |
| 16:17.08 | streuner | dpkg stable->testing |
| 16:17.09 | dpkg | it has been said that stable->testing is edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'woody' or 'stable' to 'testing' (but comment out security.debian.org's line). Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Two important things: testing gets NO security updates. Deal, or go home. Secondly, you MUST subscribe to d-d-a (/msg dpkg d-d-a) or I will come and pour hot grits down ... |
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| 16:17.30 | huron_ | et: right, it says tar : Read XX bytes from - |
| 16:17.32 | AlphaUser | I'm using Gnome, I just did a full upgrade and now it seems almost like the refresh rate on my monitor isn't right. The screen extends both left and right beyond where my monitor displays (can move cursor offscreen) |
| 16:17.45 | yipstar | so I can't run stable and testing? |
| 16:17.48 | yipstar | and the same time |
| 16:17.50 | greycat | ``What I thing GNU tar should do is [....] This will require removing the support for obsolete base-64 headers, but that's OK; it was only in a briefly-released test version.'' -- http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-tar/2003-09/msg00002.html |
| 16:18.00 | streuner | yipstar: no |
| 16:18.02 | et | huron_: of course, because the stdout of 'ssh ...' is on your local machine |
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| 16:18.08 | AlphaUser | I also use other OS' on this machine, so I don't want to make adjustment on my monitor, and am wondering if there is some other way to adjust the display |
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| 16:19.01 | huron_ | et: I be missing the point here ;-) ... |
| 16:19.08 | huron_ | I might |
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| 16:19.51 | Ummbop | ach! my password has stopped working on here, :( |
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| 16:21.01 | greyson | greycat: I just tried it sarge/sparc -> sarge/x86 and it was fine... must have been a difference in versions of tar from woody. |
| 16:21.10 | yipstar | streuner: thanks for info |
| 16:21.28 | Ummbop | anyway, just wondering if anyone is familiar with monitoring software for cross platforms i.e windows2k3/unix/winNT etc for monitoring services, checking disks, making sure everything is running fine, checking schedules? |
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| 16:21.42 | Ummbop | hmm and databases as well |
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| 16:22.14 | master_of_puppet | hi, i've just made mkfs.ext3 to a wrong partition! Is it possible to recover the files on that Partition |
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| 16:22.32 | dbeal | ow, nasty |
| 16:22.44 | et__ | master_of_puppet: very hard |
| 16:23.26 | dbeal | mkfs writes superblocks all over the partition |
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| 16:23.47 | raghu | #knoppix |
| 16:23.53 | raghu | hello |
| 16:23.58 | et__ | superblocks are not the big problem, worse is inode tables |
| 16:24.29 | streuner | dpkg, stable->testing =~ s/woody/sarge/ |
| 16:24.30 | raghu | hello i have some problems in knoppix |
| 16:24.30 | dpkg | streuner: OK |
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| 16:25.24 | vezult | !knoppix |
| 16:25.24 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or no more debian then mandrake is redhat. |
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| 16:26.25 | greycat | dpkg, knoppix =~ s/more debian then/more debian than/ |
| 16:26.25 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
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| 16:27.33 | dbeal | master_of_puppet: maybe check out the testdisk package |
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| 16:28.22 | bLAStY_ | greycat, wow, that bot takes reg exps? :-) |
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| 16:28.46 | bLAStY_ | quite slick |
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| 16:29.00 | dbeal | master_of_puppet: also perhaps, foremost |
| 16:29.47 | Ummbop | hmm anyone here ever setup a mail server that offers the same functionality as exchange? |
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| 16:30.12 | Ummbop | i'm aware there are patches and such out there, but not sure how good they are etc |
| 16:30.12 | greycat | bLAStY_: it's not really regexes. it's just strings. |
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| 16:30.18 | streuner | Ummbop: google for SMTP HOWTO |
| 16:30.26 | dbeal | same functionality = You mean fill up your hard drive and crash your computer? |
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| 16:30.36 | shingouz | hmm... does someone know without hitting google what timezone Thailand is in? |
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| 16:31.12 | streuner | .sg folks should know it |
| 16:31.25 | Lafy | could someone tell me what should be in my sources.list? |
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| 16:31.42 | streuner | Phated: are you around? |
| 16:32.00 | shingouz | hitting google :) |
| 16:32.07 | Peterken | Hello, is it possible to have dual screen ? I'm searching on it on google but there is not much information |
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| 16:32.22 | shingouz | Lafy: use apt-setup |
| 16:32.31 | LeeHong | does someone know how to downgrade 'gcc-lib' from 3.3.6 to 3.3.5? thanks in advance! |
| 16:32.35 | bob2 | Peterken: sure, the keyword is "Xinerama" |
| 16:32.37 | jungle | Peterken: Xinerama, search for that |
| 16:32.37 | bob2 | LeeHong: why? |
| 16:32.43 | shingouz | +7 seems like |
| 16:32.45 | Peterken | tnx bob2, jungle |
| 16:33.19 | LeeHong | I am compiling something, which required 3.3.5 |
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| 16:33.28 | bob2 | I really dobt that |
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| 16:34.21 | mattl_ | if i've made a change to my /etc/resolv.conf - what steps do i need to do to get it to be recognised/reloaded? |
| 16:34.28 | albo | is it possible to do a raid with 1 36G and 3 18G ? |
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| 16:35.03 | streuner | mattl_: DHCP? |
| 16:35.06 | LeeHong | actually it try to find some files under /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5 |
| 16:35.17 | mattl_ | streuner: no, fixed IP. |
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| 16:35.37 | orchid | names |
| 16:35.37 | greycat | albo: you could make an 18 GB RAID-1 setup. |
| 16:35.39 | bob2 | LeeHong: what on earth is it? |
| 16:35.43 | streuner | mattl: ifdown -a, ifup -a |
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| 16:36.20 | albo | greycat:ah , so partition the 36G in half ! |
| 16:36.22 | LeeHong | it's abnf compiler |
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| 16:36.32 | LinkinTurk | hello to all |
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| 16:36.48 | LinkinTurk | how i can extrach *.rar files?? |
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| 16:36.56 | greycat | LinkinTurk: install unrar |
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| 16:36.58 | LinkinTurk | unrar cant run |
| 16:37.02 | greycat | why not? |
| 16:37.12 | LinkinTurk | impossible greycat |
| 16:37.19 | shingouz | vague... |
| 16:37.20 | justin | !lart LinkinTurk |
| 16:37.30 | greycat | !confuse LinkinTurk |
| 16:37.31 | dpkg | Yes, who are my hamster yesterday, LinkinTurk? wellies of the monarchy of liechtenstein with extra cheese |
| 16:37.31 | exalted | hi, i need information about debian minimal installation: Where can i find what is being set and installed during minimal installation on my system? |
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| 16:37.33 | www | hi |
| 16:37.36 | amolina_ | hola |
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| 16:37.51 | greycat | exalted: it's all open source. |
| 16:37.54 | www | how to limit incoming traffic without using the imq patch ? |
| 16:38.04 | tim_h_ | should I expect problems when I update woody to sarge over ssh? |
| 16:38.06 | greycat | www: you *can't* limit what people send to you. |
| 16:38.08 | LinkinTurk | i cant install unrar |
| 16:38.15 | greycat | LinkinTurk: WHY THE FUCK NOT? |
| 16:38.18 | shingouz | still very vague.. |
| 16:38.19 | cmihai | Then install rar |
| 16:38.36 | exalted | greycat, i want to know what is being set and installed package per package... |
| 16:38.48 | www | greycat : i need to set up a low latency on ssh, telnet, www with a good bandwidth for ftp etc |
| 16:39.02 | greycat | www: and this has.... *what* to do with incoming traffic? |
| 16:39.14 | greycat | exalted: so go read the source. Ask #debian-boot for more info. |
| 16:39.14 | FieldySnuts | @pee on www |
| 16:39.26 | greycat | www: lartc.org |
| 16:39.29 | bob2 | charming |
| 16:39.34 | Lafy | i just typed apt-get upgrad and it told me 230 upgraded, 17 not upgraded. what does this mean and should i say yes? |
| 16:39.34 | greycat | www: or better yet, use openbsd for the firewall and read the PF FAQ |
| 16:39.37 | www | they recommend using imq |
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| 16:39.38 | exalted | greycat, i ment if there is an info. page where i can find this info. |
| 16:39.49 | www | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.06 | tim_h_ | I have no physical |
| 16:40.07 | bob2 | Lafy: we can't guess what you have in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:40.11 | tim_h_ | oops |
| 16:40.12 | LinkinTurk | debian:/home/ersin# apt-get install rar |
| 16:40.12 | LinkinTurk | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 16:40.13 | LinkinTurk | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 16:40.13 | LinkinTurk | Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 16:40.17 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 16:40.20 | mattl_ | www: what's not 100% stable? |
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| 16:40.32 | shingouz | LinkinTurk: do not paste here |
| 16:40.33 | Lafy | bob2: does that mean it's going to upgrade 230 things or 17 things? |
| 16:40.36 | bob2 | Lafy: if you'r using "stable", tho, sarge came out recently, so almost all of the packages will be upgraded |
| 16:40.37 | cmihai | LinkinTurk: so get "rar" yourself. |
| 16:40.38 | greycat | !info unrar-nonfree sarge |
| 16:40.43 | greycat | hrm. |
| 16:40.45 | greycat | !info unrar-nonfree sid |
| 16:40.50 | greycat | hrm hrm. |
| 16:40.53 | FieldySnuts | dpkg is pretty lagged today |
| 16:40.58 | greycat | is dpkg broken, or is it actually removed? |
| 16:41.10 | bob2 | Lafy: 230 |
| 16:41.12 | greycat | FieldySnuts: no, it replied in /msg to say that the packages do not exist. |
| 16:41.17 | FieldySnuts | ahh |
| 16:41.27 | greycat | !info unrar sid |
| 16:41.29 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
| 16:41.37 | greycat | oh, they renamed it again... |
| 16:41.48 | greycat | !info unrar sarge |
| 16:41.51 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-0.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
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| 16:41.54 | greycat | there you go.' |
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| 16:42.12 | znh | Hm.. anyone known with SOCKS v5? |
| 16:42.20 | cmihai | It's unrar-free now.. |
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| 16:42.21 | FieldySnuts | engrish? |
| 16:42.24 | Lafy | bob2: i ran apt-setup and it put testing entries into my sources.list... i dont think i want testing... |
| 16:42.26 | shingouz | LinkinTurk: you need the non-free in sources.list, update, then install unrar |
| 16:42.31 | znh | I'd like to run a SOCKS v5 server on one of my servers, however I can't find any software for it :/ |
| 16:42.48 | bob2 | Lafy: then change it back |
| 16:42.51 | FieldySnuts | haven't looked ver hard huh |
| 16:42.54 | bob2 | znh: it's non-free |
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| 16:43.01 | bob2 | which is crap and stupid |
| 16:43.02 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | lol |
| 16:43.03 | bob2 | go NEC |
| 16:43.07 | znh | bob2: really :/ ? |
| 16:43.08 | LinkinTurk | shingouz ok |
| 16:43.11 | LinkinTurk | thanks |
| 16:43.12 | greycat | bob2: he meant "It's unrar-free and unrar now, instead of unrar and unrar-nonfree" |
| 16:43.13 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | i like the looks of my Webmin now |
| 16:43.14 | bob2 | a friend of mine packaged it the other week |
| 16:43.16 | Lafy | yeah but my old sources was pointing to a server that's down. and i dont entirely understand how this shizzle works |
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| 16:43.20 | sobersabre | hi |
| 16:43.25 | bob2 | greycat: I was talking about socks |
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| 16:43.30 | greycat | oh. |
| 16:43.32 | sobersabre | what should be the maximum ulimit -f value in bash ? |
| 16:43.34 | yipstar | can I apt-get mod_fastcgi for apache 1.3 running sarge? |
| 16:43.36 | znh | bob2: what's NEC? |
| 16:43.44 | bob2 | znh: the company that wrote it |
| 16:43.45 | bob2 | iirc |
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| 16:44.00 | usuario__ | que haceis |
| 16:44.05 | greycat | sobersabre: probably a power of 2. |
| 16:44.09 | greycat | sobersabre: happy testing. |
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| 16:44.15 | usuario__ | justo |
| 16:44.21 | greycat | !es |
| 16:44.22 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:44.39 | greycat | A few more of these, and I'm going to +q usuario*!*@* |
| 16:44.47 | usuario__ | hola |
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| 16:44.50 | greycat | !es |
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| 16:44.51 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 16:44.55 | www | is the linux kernel 2.6 in sarge compiled with HTB ? |
| 16:44.57 | FieldySnuts | thanks |
| 16:45.10 | greycat | www: grep HTB /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 16:45.13 | FieldySnuts | what's htb? |
| 16:45.16 | greycat | whatever the fuck HTB is. |
| 16:45.21 | Lafy | is there an unstable/updates? or something to that effect? |
| 16:45.23 | www | okay |
| 16:45.25 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: htb? |
| 16:45.25 | greycat | Lafy: no |
| 16:45.25 | dpkg | hmm... htb is the Hierarchical Token Bucket approach to traffic shaping and bandwidth limiting. Details and patches to kernel and iproute at http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/ |
| 16:45.39 | Lafy | is there still stable, unstable, and testing? |
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| 16:45.42 | bob2 | Lafy: yes |
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| 16:46.17 | shingouz | Lafy: the order is stable, testing, unstable (and you do not want to be on unstable) |
| 16:46.26 | Lafy | oh |
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| 16:46.39 | www | is there any advantage to download the 14 cd's instead of the 2 DVDs ? |
| 16:46.49 | tylerdurdenXX | hi |
| 16:46.52 | valdyn | www: less disk juggling? |
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| 16:46.53 | shingouz | www: the dvd's cannot be used on a cd |
| 16:47.05 | www | i mean on boot options etc ? |
| 16:47.09 | shingouz | no |
| 16:47.35 | bob2 | I want more upstream |
| 16:47.35 | incorrect | is it possible to script fdisk, i've got lots of systems to build, and id rather not have to run fdisk everytime |
| 16:47.38 | cmihai | I don't think you'd even need DVD2 |
| 16:47.41 | bob2 | 256kbit/s is shit |
| 16:47.44 | cmihai | It's ...full of crap :) |
| 16:47.52 | www | with woody there were some cd's with some boot options |
| 16:47.53 | bob2 | you don't even need dvd1 |
| 16:47.55 | FieldySnuts | i have 400something up but it still bites |
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| 16:48.01 | greycat | !d-i |
| 16:48.02 | dpkg | hmm... d-i is the new installer for Debian 3.1 (Sarge). You ARE installing Sarge and not Woody, right? See http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 16:48.26 | shingouz | 1024. bwahaha ;) |
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| 16:48.50 | Lafy | if i run apt-get upgrade and it upgrades 214 things how likely is it that my system is broken when i'm done? |
| 16:49.04 | loocek | I've installed stable, but I haven't kernel source in /usr/src, but I need because I want install alsa, from where can I take this source ? |
| 16:49.10 | cmihai | What are you upgrading from ?! |
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| 16:49.21 | Lafy | i haven't touched this machine in like 6 months |
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| 16:49.26 | greycat | Lafy: "quite", for some values of "broken". |
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| 16:49.31 | Lafy | it's just been sitting there trafficing mail |
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| 16:49.42 | greycat | trafficking. |
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| 16:49.48 | kevin__ | need help with ati video |
| 16:49.50 | greycat | (Isn't English great?) |
| 16:49.55 | Lafy | sure why not |
| 16:49.56 | loocek | is there any way to take source with configuration to my installed system ? |
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| 16:50.13 | sdjgjasgjasdgj | can someone please tell me how could I make a ACL for squid that adds a header to all the pages that my users opens ? It's emergency .. |
| 16:50.20 | valdyn | loocek: you dont need kernel source for alsa. |
| 16:50.23 | Lafy | is stable still woody and testing sarge? |
| 16:50.25 | kevin__ | have radeon 7200 but can only get 800 x 600 |
| 16:50.26 | greycat | Lafy: no |
| 16:50.28 | Lafy | lol |
| 16:50.30 | greycat | !topicsmite Lafy |
| 16:50.31 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Lafy. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 16:50.35 | valdyn | loocek: uname -r please |
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| 16:50.54 | loocek | valdyn: but alsa-driver need /usr/src/linux... |
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| 16:51.02 | valdyn | loocek: no it does not |
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| 16:51.06 | valdyn | loocek: uname -r please |
| 16:51.08 | Lafy | so that means that if i was using testing before i should be using stable now? |
| 16:51.33 | loocek | valdyn:2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 16:52.07 | ajatollah | I seem to be having a problem with XFree on sarge |
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| 16:52.24 | valdyn | loocek: im not sure recent alsa would work at all with such an old kernel.. |
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| 16:52.28 | streuner | ajatollah: what videocard do you have? |
| 16:52.46 | Spec | meh, one of my debian boxes just crashed :-/ |
| 16:52.47 | ajatollah | streuner : nvidia GeForce2mx |
| 16:52.57 | valdyn | loocek: you're running a woody system and want to stick to woody? |
| 16:53.03 | streuner | ajatollah: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 16:53.04 | kevin__ | ati radeon 7200 64mb |
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| 16:53.17 | valdyn | loocek: or is this kernel just a last piece of "woody" on your sarge/stable system? |
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| 16:53.50 | toro_ne | e aeeeeeeeee |
| 16:54.11 | toro_ne | brasilllllllllll |
| 16:54.18 | terr | I'm wondering if someone can help me with an alien install. I've converted the .rpm to the .deb, now I'm looking at the man mages from apt-get install and I do not see an option whereby I can direct it to use the file I've got. |
| 16:54.20 | loocek | valdy: :) yeah, because I have sarge |
| 16:54.21 | greycat | !br |
| 16:54.22 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 16:54.39 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | !nl |
| 16:54.39 | dpkg | .NL is the Netherlands. See http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html |
| 16:54.42 | greycat | they must have something hallucinogenic in the water supply down there. |
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| 16:55.27 | valdyn | loocek: install a sarge kernel ( apt-cache search kernel-image-2.4 ), install the headers fitting to that image ( "apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" ) once that newer kernel is running. |
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| 16:55.43 | toro_ne | o rafael tristao é muto gay |
| 16:55.45 | loocek | valdyn: what is the way (in general), to compile alsa with no need kernel-source ? |
| 16:55.46 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | What chmod do the mysql files need to be? |
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| 16:56.03 | toro_ne | seus gay |
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| 16:56.22 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | evil |
| 16:56.28 | valdyn | loocek: compiling drivers in debian usually only requires the kernel-headers as mentioned above. They take less space and most importantly are already correctly and completely configured. |
| 16:56.31 | cast | alright, somewhat of a OT question but i am using debian :). iptables *doesnt* do a DNS lookup everytime its traversing a chain when you make rule along the lines of iptables -A INPUT -s asdf.com -j ACCEPT does it? |
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| 16:57.07 | sobersabre | cast, it should |
| 16:57.20 | idnar | uhm, doesn't it look it up and insert an IP into the table? |
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| 16:57.37 | sobersabre | idnar, no. |
| 16:57.42 | sobersabre | afaik.. |
| 16:57.56 | valdyn | loocek: feel free to try installing those headers for your current kernel, but i doubt that would work, and i doubt sarge's alsa would compile against that old kernel of yours ( though its possible ). |
| 16:58.04 | sobersabre | you use hosts when ip changes. |
| 16:58.08 | www | are some people here using an adsl connection ? i want to be able to make some downloades and browse without huge delays ? |
| 16:58.28 | cast | wouldnt that introduce lag along with a billion hits to the dns server though? |
| 16:58.30 | resiak | Get a faster connection? |
| 16:58.31 | idnar | sobersabre: nope, it does the DNS lookup on the commandline |
| 16:58.38 | xiaomai | when i try 'snmpwalk localhost ssCpuRawUser', it doesn't work (i get a bad oid error)... why can't i see it? |
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| 16:58.45 | www | resiak if you pay it yes |
| 16:58.48 | valdyn | loocek: so I recommend starting w/ a sarge kernel-image of your choice. |
| 16:58.49 | idnar | elvardein:~> sudo iptables -A INPUT -s google.com -j ACCEPT |
| 16:58.50 | idnar | elvardein:~> sudo iptables -vL INPUT |
| 16:58.50 | idnar | ... |
| 16:58.51 | ksn | I use it @ home and have no problems with it |
| 16:58.54 | idnar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:59.09 | idnar | actually, it adds three rules, one for each google.com address |
| 16:59.19 | nunez | whats the difference between normal mozilla and firefox? |
| 16:59.31 | valdyn | nunez: why dont you try them? |
| 16:59.38 | resiak | www: I don't see the point of your original question. |
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| 16:59.46 | xiaomai | nunez: firefox is based on mozilla, but it's much more light-weight |
| 16:59.46 | streuner | nunez: firefox called 'lightweighted' ;-) |
| 16:59.46 | idnar | doing DNS lookups on the fly would be insane, anyway |
| 16:59.56 | cast | my iptables -L lists domain names, not ip's which is why i was curious |
| 17:00.04 | andrre | can any one help installing a vpn |
| 17:00.04 | snowshelbi | hi, trying to get ipw2100-source with apt-get but i am getting "can't find package" error. i googled and someone had a similar problem nd talked about adding "contrib" to etc/apt/sources.list what does he mean by that? |
| 17:00.09 | valdyn | nunez: user visible difference is quite small (imo) except for the default theme. |
| 17:00.19 | loocek | valdyn: then I should install kernel-headers , and try install alsa , yeah ? |
| 17:00.19 | idnar | cast: it's doing a reverse-lookup on the IP addresses |
| 17:00.24 | jasoncohen | nunez, firefox is meant to be lighter- and it's just a browser- mozilla is meant as a suite- it has a mail, chat and several other components |
| 17:00.28 | xiaomai | snowshelbi, have you tried opening up that file? |
| 17:00.31 | idnar | cast: pass -n |
| 17:00.31 | nunez | ight |
| 17:00.33 | snowshelbi | yes |
| 17:00.36 | nunez | Thanks |
| 17:00.46 | jasoncohen | nunez, apt-cache show mozilla-firefox and apt-cache show mozilla |
| 17:00.56 | xiaomai | snowshelbi, add 'contrib' next to every place that you see 'main' |
| 17:01.02 | valdyn | loocek: yea, "apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i alsa" |
| 17:01.12 | snowshelbi | ah i see how it works |
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| 17:01.16 | snowshelbi | alright, thanks |
| 17:01.21 | www | so what do you do to browse without delays and download at the same time ? |
| 17:01.35 | cast | hmm, alright |
| 17:01.35 | valdyn | loocek: install a sarge kernel first however, and reboot to have it running... |
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| 17:01.58 | [TD]Porno | http://www.monstersgame.de/?ac=vid&vid=8997 |
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| 17:02.04 | andrre | I new on ubuntu and i dont know how to install a VPN can any one help me |
| 17:02.10 | cast | im writing firewall rules and i have to include security.debian.org, hence the thought wheither i should use -d security.debian.org or -d xxx.xxx.xx.xx |
| 17:02.19 | valdyn | andrre: /j #ubuntu |
| 17:02.24 | resiak | www: ... I accept that when I use my connection for one thing, it'll be slower if I do other stuff concurrently. Alternatively I use wget to download things and limit its rate. |
| 17:02.24 | shingouz | andrre: yes. /join #ubuntu and /part #debian |
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| 17:02.26 | loocek | valdyn: but...I see that there are kernel-headers only for2.4.27, and I have 2.4.18 |
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| 17:02.48 | terr | I'm wondering if someone can help me with an alien install. I've converted the .rpm to the .deb, now I'm looking at the man mages from apt-get install and I do not see an option whereby I can direct it to use the file I've got. |
| 17:02.54 | www | resiak : problem is browsing is very slow as all my bandwidth is taken |
| 17:02.55 | kevin__ | can anyone help me? i need help editing system files to support my ati video card so i can get a resolution greater than 800x600 |
| 17:03.11 | Dr_O | terr: dpkg -i *.deb |
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| 17:03.16 | valdyn | loocek: thats right, 2.4.18 is not supported in sarge. So install a sarge kernel, the 2 reasons repeated: 1) 2.4.18 is unsupported in sarge 2) alsa might not function at all with 2.4.18 |
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| 17:03.19 | sobersabre | kevin__, so you need somebody to edit your files ? |
| 17:03.20 | ksn | ok, here goes a queston, how do I get the PSM packages for mozilla? I have tried apt-get install but it comes up with packages not found |
| 17:03.29 | terr | Dr_o thanx |
| 17:03.30 | Ahmet_S | whats the new name of unrar package |
| 17:03.30 | resiak | www: So ... download things when you're not browsing? Or use wget and limit its download rate? |
| 17:03.37 | louis__ | hi, what's a stock debian kernel binary that has support for both nvidia and alsa? |
| 17:03.44 | sobersabre | Ahmet_S, apt-cache search unrar |
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| 17:03.47 | www | i am downloading the sarge cd's with bittorrent not wget |
| 17:03.48 | kevin__ | i can edit but dont know what to edit |
| 17:03.58 | shingouz | Ahmet_S: unrar |
| 17:04.02 | roler | how can I reconfigure what sound device my mozilla-firefox uses? |
| 17:04.06 | greycat | www: so tell your bit torrent client to limit its download rate. SHEESH!! |
| 17:04.11 | greycat | www: and YES, bittornado can do that. |
| 17:04.13 | sobersabre | kevin__, i think you should take a reference from ATI site... |
| 17:04.22 | jasoncohen | LinkinTurk, apt-get install unrar-free or unrar |
| 17:04.23 | greycat | !smite www |
| 17:04.25 | kevin__ | did it before but had to reinstall and lost notes |
| 17:04.31 | simonrvn | louis__: none. only 2.6 debian kernels will have alsa - don't expect nvidia in them. |
| 17:04.39 | loocek | valdyn: then I might install just 2.4.31 from source and I will have a new kernel with headres...and all |
| 17:04.40 | www | i have tried it at the btt client but it does not work |
| 17:04.45 | www | still eats all my bdwdth |
| 17:04.46 | greycat | www: then file a bug report |
| 17:04.48 | kevin__ | ati only supports 8500 and higher i have 7200 |
| 17:04.50 | simonrvn | 2.4 ones won't. that's a custom kernel |
| 17:04.55 | mtnman | is 166 deg F hot for a cpu temp? |
| 17:05.12 | valdyn | loocek: if you are capable of doing that alone, sure go ahead. I'm not going to walk anyone through compiling its own kernel though :) |
| 17:05.13 | sobersabre | kevin__, use ati default driver from XFree86 |
| 17:05.14 | greycat | apt: (166-32)*5/9 |
| 17:05.14 | apt | 74.444444444444 |
| 17:05.15 | simonrvn | what's that in C? |
| 17:05.18 | www | problem is filing a bug report is slow |
| 17:05.22 | louis__ | simon, ok hmm.. there's no hooks for nvidia in the kernel if I install an optional NVidia module even? |
| 17:05.23 | simonrvn | i would say so |
| 17:05.24 | www | i want it fixed today |
| 17:05.26 | thomas_adam | It's 31C here. |
| 17:05.32 | louis__ | simon, for 2.6 that is |
| 17:05.45 | abrotman | if you can't cook eggs on your CPU .. you're not working hard enough |
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| 17:05.55 | simonrvn | louis__: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 17:05.59 | resiak | www: Erm, bittorrent can limit your download rate really easily |
| 17:06.03 | kevin__ | what is command for editing system peripherals? |
| 17:06.25 | valdyn | kevin__: do you know what that is supposed to mean yourself? |
| 17:06.37 | resiak | www: apt-get install bittornado, man btdownloadcurses |
| 17:06.37 | loocek | valdyn: :), ok , I don't know how install new kernel in "debian way" , after apt-get install I will must configure him ? |
| 17:06.46 | terr | Dr_o any idea where dpkg put it? |
| 17:06.49 | www | ok |
| 17:06.58 | terr | Dr_o I got no errors and no warnings. |
| 17:07.00 | kevin__ | reconfigure video, mouse and monitor from a command line |
| 17:07.00 | valdyn | loocek: apt-get install kernel-image-whatever <- that is everything |
| 17:07.05 | www | i ll try |
| 17:07.07 | www | bye |
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| 17:07.28 | valdyn | loocek: pick -386 or an image fitting your CPU. |
| 17:07.35 | jasoncohen | loocek, why not just use 2.4.27 or 2.6.8? both are in sarge, and they both will get security fixes |
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| 17:07.43 | loocek | valdyn: ok , when I install this I'll come back :) |
| 17:07.53 | valdyn | loocek: alright. |
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| 17:08.05 | louis__ | simon, I think this may be equivalent to what I've already installed |
| 17:08.12 | nakee | how do I tell dpkg to remove a package no matter what errors? |
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| 17:08.20 | ksn | abortman: then my laptop is doing rather well then lol, you can cook an egg on it 30 mins after startup lol |
| 17:08.31 | valdyn | nakee: that is ugly and filthy and causes cancer, what do you want to achieve? |
| 17:08.31 | simonrvn | ugh |
| 17:08.34 | simonrvn | too hot |
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| 17:08.45 | js | is it possible to set up so the /proc/<pid>'s belong to the users who the processes belong to without patching my kernel? |
| 17:08.46 | abrotman | ksn: too hot .. bad for system .. is it overclocked ? |
| 17:09.08 | js | actually, make that so they are only readable by taht user |
| 17:09.12 | ksn | no, it is just a very old p1 133 |
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| 17:09.31 | nakee | valdyn something got ruined with the mozilla-firefox apckage and now its either installed or uninstalled apt-get -f install didnt work nothing else worked |
| 17:09.33 | jasoncohen | ksn, what's the idle temp? |
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| 17:09.42 | nakee | I cant remove it or reinstall it |
| 17:09.44 | terr | ksn: what are you using that old P1 133 for? |
| 17:09.48 | abrotman | ksn: if that's a P133 .. it shouldn't be nearly that hot |
| 17:09.50 | ksn | no idea don't want to freek by finding out |
| 17:09.58 | ksn | laptop |
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| 17:10.01 | valdyn | nakee: the actual error message would be useful. |
| 17:10.03 | jasoncohen | nakee, dpkg -l mozilla-firefox |
| 17:10.05 | abrotman | mtnman: you stud! |
| 17:10.07 | jasoncohen | what's the status? |
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| 17:10.13 | jasoncohen | "it's either installed or uninstalled"...well duh |
| 17:10.21 | nakee | iF |
| 17:10.28 | mtnman | abrotman: yeah, its my second fastest machine now. |
| 17:10.33 | js | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.34 | jago | #ubuntu |
| 17:10.36 | js | oops |
| 17:10.47 | nakee | jasoncohen it think its install not all the files are there |
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| 17:11.05 | simonrvn | @tell marqueitor about root |
| 17:11.06 | jasoncohen | if that's the case apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox |
| 17:11.11 | valdyn | nakee: why dont you paste the error message? |
| 17:11.16 | mtnman | the cpu is upto 160 def F (70.5 C) |
| 17:11.19 | jasoncohen | that would be nice too |
| 17:11.25 | jasoncohen | mtnman, holy crap that's high |
| 17:11.43 | nakee | hmm didn't notice the time I gtg:) sorry for disturbing |
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| 17:11.51 | louis__ | simon, what exactly does module assistant do? |
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| 17:11.52 | mtnman | jasoncohen: yeah, very uncomfortable on the old lap, i must say. |
| 17:12.06 | jasoncohen | mtnman, at least on AMD XP chips, the max temperature is 60 C- then it starts crashing and you begin to shorten the lifespan of the CPU |
| 17:12.06 | mtnman | jasoncohen: and that is with the fan on high. |
| 17:12.09 | xaphod | How do I find out how many messages are waiting in postfix's queue, unsent? |
| 17:12.20 | kevin__ | how do i rerun setup |
| 17:12.20 | bob2 | xaphod: postqueue -p |
| 17:12.26 | terr | mtnman: how do I find out what the cpu temps are |
| 17:12.27 | xaphod | thanks! |
| 17:12.31 | simonrvn | louis__: please tab complete, it's easily missed right now. do apt-cache show module-assistant |
| 17:12.36 | abrotman | jasoncohen: it's a bit higher than that .. |
| 17:12.38 | mtnman | terr: i'm running an app called xmbmon |
| 17:12.44 | jasoncohen | mtnman, my amd athlon xp 2700+ runs at 35 C idle and 45 C at 100% CPU but laptop cooling isn't as good- |
| 17:12.50 | jasoncohen | abrotman, perhaps 65 then? |
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| 17:12.57 | ajatollah | streuner: i mean nvidia driver works already, both commercial "nvidia and free "nv" drivers, but video playback on X seems weird for some files with an ugly blur on the right side of the video window |
| 17:13.09 | mtnman | any ideas how i can get this thing to run a bit cooler? |
| 17:13.09 | HanClinto | Does anyone here have a favorite hex editor? |
| 17:13.16 | valdyn | ajatollah: with which viewer? |
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| 17:13.21 | Wowzer | i've been trying to get exim4 to work with spamassassin and having little luck. I've googled, and done what was listed, but am not sure if what's written is applicable to sarge. Does anyone know of a tutorial/help for me? |
| 17:13.34 | xaphod | bob2: it is as i feared - i sent multiple emails at the same time from my postfix server to hotmail. After a few hotmail started giving back "connection refused" (presumably because i was trying to connect to too many in too short a time period). I figured postfix would just hang on to the fails and retry them, but it didn't! how come?! |
| 17:13.35 | abrotman | jasoncohen: i think it's 75ish .. but depends on the family |
| 17:13.37 | jasoncohen | abrotman, i had a cooling issue before where dust was covering my cpu fan (dusty area) and as soon as the temp went over 60-65 the machine would reboot |
| 17:13.42 | ajatollah | valdyn: totem, xine and selfcompiled mplayer |
| 17:14.11 | abrotman | jasoncohen: i think it depends on the family within AthlonXP |
| 17:14.14 | jasoncohen | abrotman, you sure? i thought that it was bad for the chip to run over 60-65, and once you got at 70-80 the chip could be destroyed |
| 17:14.22 | jasoncohen | oh, i see |
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| 17:14.26 | ajatollah | valdyn, streuner: as the problem persits on both drivers I tink is something about X |
| 17:14.27 | ttick | Wowzer: are you trying to get spamassassin to run per-user, or as a daemon? |
| 17:14.29 | simonrvn | my g3 mac: temperature : 34-36 C (uncalibrated) |
| 17:14.35 | louis__ | oh wait, there are alsa modules for this kernel =) Wonder how I missed it! Thanks guys |
| 17:14.41 | Wowzer | daemon |
| 17:14.41 | valdyn | ajatollah: more like something about your hardware i think |
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| 17:14.45 | ksn | I am going to get a laptop cooler in the next week or so, maybe that will help me because I am going to keep plugging away at this Debian I love to learn new things on here. It shear exileration to configure something and have it working |
| 17:14.49 | abrotman | jasoncohen: you're talking about the engineer specs .. real world may vary :) |
| 17:14.52 | ttick | Wowzer: how many people on your machine? |
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| 17:15.04 | mtnman | jasoncohen: well, this pIII is up to 71.5 and not quite dead yet. |
| 17:15.07 | ajatollah | valdyn, streuner: I tought so, but I also have slackware 10 on that machine, and no signs of such a trouble :s |
| 17:15.11 | bob2 | xaphod: hotmail refuses mail entirely from people on dynamic ips |
| 17:15.12 | Wowzer | not too many...it's for a non-profit group...about 5-10 |
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| 17:15.30 | sobersabre | is fs.file-max in sysctl means maximal file size or maximal files count ? |
| 17:15.31 | jasoncohen | well, i'm about 15-20 C lower than 60 C so i don't think i'll have to worry, heh |
| 17:15.34 | valdyn | ajatollah: i'd try mplayer -vo help, try different video output methods and see if the problem persists. |
| 17:15.40 | jasoncohen | it idles at around 95 F |
| 17:15.41 | ajatollah | valdyn, streuner: it only happens o avi files, not on mpegs |
| 17:15.52 | abrotman | jasoncohen: http://www.cpu-world.com/info/id/AMD-K7-identification.html |
| 17:16.00 | quittt | nicotine is great |
| 17:16.01 | simonrvn | sobersabre: count |
| 17:16.03 | valdyn | ajatollah: avi is only a container, sais nothing about the encoding. |
| 17:16.11 | xaphod | How do i set postfix to not consider it a success if upon attempting to send an email it gets Connection Timed out ?? It isn't even giving me back a bounce?! |
| 17:16.12 | ttick | Wowzer: well, not sure how to get it to run for large environments, but I have it setup so exim4 delivers to procmail and procmail runs spamassassin for each user (I have 5 on my system) |
| 17:16.15 | mtnman | i'm curious why this thing is running so hot. i wonder if the monitor is calibrated correcctly. |
| 17:16.25 | ajatollah | yes, I tried that, XV is the one witht the problem, I tried irect X11 rendering, and plays fine, but I cannot scale videos using that |
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| 17:16.45 | abrotman | jasoncohen: notice .. some go up to 100C |
| 17:16.51 | bob2 | xaphod: I'd be very surprised if postfix ever lost mail, tho. look at your logs again and see what it says happened to them. |
| 17:16.54 | valdyn | ajatollah: vo gl should work alright on nvidia |
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| 17:17.39 | ajatollah | valdyn : ok, thnks, I'll be trying that one onceUI return home, I thank you very much for your hel, I'll get back here to tell the results |
| 17:17.41 | jasoncohen | abrotman, for my XP chip i see T 90C and V 85 C. what's T & V stand for? |
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| 17:17.43 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: hire Phated |
| 17:17.52 | ajatollah | *help |
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| 17:18.03 | snowshelbi | i am having a little trouble with modul-assistant while installing the ipw2100 drivers. i followed the instructions in the readme.debian file it came with but i am getting a what i think is a compile error (a bunch of errors produced by the make file ranging, especially missing header files) |
| 17:18.09 | space | how can i reach the same effect in grub, than with the vga=... line in lilo.conf? |
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| 17:18.25 | bob2 | snowshelbi: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 17:18.28 | ec_ | I cannot get my sound working after installing 2.6.12 |
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| 17:18.41 | sobersabre | simonrvn, how can i see what is the actual file size limit ? |
| 17:18.42 | valdyn | snowshelbi: dpkg -l kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 17:18.46 | ec_ | I didn't change any sound related kernel config settings either |
| 17:18.47 | FieldySnuts | don't blame us, not a debian kernel |
| 17:18.47 | ttick | Wowzer: basically, get procmail to do local delivery, and have an rc.spamassasin file called as one of the procmail filters. I believe if you google procmail spamassassin, you'll see the 9line procmail recipe. |
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| 17:18.54 | xaphod | bob2: i have looked. the first few go thru fine, and then I get F2956229C7: ...queued... F2956229C7: removed connect to mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.190.50]: Connection timed out (port 25) |
| 17:18.55 | resiak | ec_: Oh what a shame. Since that's not in Debian, that's your own problem. |
| 17:19.05 | sobersabre | simonrvn, except creating an enormous file and see when it fails... |
| 17:19.10 | bob2 | xaphod: it won't be removed if the connection timed out |
| 17:19.10 | simonrvn | sobersabre: man sysctl |
| 17:19.12 | snowshelbi | i think i already got the kernel headers by using m-a prepare no? |
| 17:19.14 | ec_ | ok |
| 17:19.16 | bob2 | xaphod: not unless you've found a big bug |
| 17:19.21 | Wowzer | sorry- was on the phone. Ttick- do you have an FAQ/help guide for getting to work with individual users? That would be okay as well---I dont have many users. |
| 17:19.34 | valdyn | snowshelbi: run that command and tell its output.. |
| 17:19.43 | xaphod | bob2: well.. uh.. i know for a fact the recipients didnt' get the email, postqueue -p says nothing in the queue... uh, what else? |
| 17:19.48 | Wowzer | ok...googling now...tx |
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| 17:19.57 | bob2 | xaphod: so read your logs again |
| 17:20.03 | snowshelbi | esired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 17:20.03 | snowshelbi | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
| 17:20.03 | snowshelbi | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 17:20.03 | snowshelbi | ||/ Name Version Description |
| 17:20.03 | snowshelbi | +++-==============-==============-============================================ |
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| 17:20.04 | ttick | Wowzer: hmm, I set mine up a long time ago, but perhaps the spamassassin page has it, or procmail page. |
| 17:20.10 | simonrvn | uh |
| 17:20.11 | valdyn | haha |
| 17:20.13 | bob2 | xaphod: if it couldn't deliver it after a few days, it will have bounced it back to the author |
| 17:20.16 | jasoncohen | well people ever learn? |
| 17:20.18 | simonrvn | *sigh* |
| 17:20.25 | xaphod | bob2: what i quoted above is the entirety of one email that didn't make it, in the logs. nothing else is present. |
| 17:20.36 | sobersabre | jasoncohen, well or will ? |
| 17:20.40 | bob2 | xaphod: that's not true, it's your summary |
| 17:20.42 | yipstar | I'm running sarge 3.1 stable. is there a non-free distribution site I can add to my /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
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| 17:20.45 | bob2 | xaphod: put the entire log online somewhere |
| 17:20.47 | snowshelbi | oops |
| 17:20.48 | ttick | Wowzer: hold on, I'll post my rc.spamassassin on nopaste |
| 17:20.56 | resiak | !tell yipstar aboutnon-free |
| 17:20.57 | snowshelbi | did you see the output at least? |
| 17:20.58 | resiak | !tell yipstar about non-free |
| 17:21.01 | jasoncohen | sobersabre, *will |
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| 17:21.12 | Wowzer | k..thx |
| 17:21.14 | valdyn | snowshelbi: missed the last line. |
| 17:21.16 | resiak | snowshelbi: No. /topic |
| 17:21.17 | bob2 | snowshelbi: don't crap flood |
| 17:21.20 | simonrvn | some people do learn, some don't |
| 17:21.20 | valdyn | snowshelbi: only that one matters. |
| 17:21.38 | xaphod | bob2: sure, entire log going up... one sec |
| 17:21.43 | snowshelbi | ii kernel-headers 2.4.27-10 Linux 2.4.27 kernel headers for 386 |
| 17:21.47 | jasoncohen | it's not like it's very difficult to use a pastebin or #paste |
| 17:22.00 | jasoncohen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:22.08 | rpozo | hi all |
| 17:22.08 | ttick | Wowzer: http://rafb.net/paste/results/avrrJ798.html |
| 17:22.15 | yipstar | resiak: ok, I'm down with the philosophy of why to not use non-free. I just need to install libapache-mod-ssl and i think i can only get it from non-free. |
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| 17:22.18 | rpozo | i'm going crazy over here trying to work through this install |
| 17:22.18 | Wowzer | ty |
| 17:22.22 | snowshelbi | i am sorry...i realize how stupid it was :( i am at fault for not reading the topic |
| 17:22.24 | ttick | Wowzer: sure :) |
| 17:22.28 | resiak | yipstar: READ THE FACTOID |
| 17:22.40 | rpozo | it's coming up on almost 24 hours with absolutely no progress and I'm stuck so I'm hoping someone in here can assist |
| 17:22.43 | valdyn | snowshelbi: alright, that looks good, try running "m-a clean" and repeat compiling your driver. |
| 17:23.01 | rpozo | The installer is error'ing out when it tries to bring up the partitioning system |
| 17:23.02 | bob2 | rpozo: you'd need to ask a specific question first... |
| 17:23.10 | bob2 | rpozo: check you burnt the cd correctly |
| 17:23.11 | rpozo | it says no partitionable media found |
| 17:23.18 | snowshelbi | m-a clean says no package specified |
| 17:23.21 | rpozo | bob2: the cd is fine |
| 17:23.32 | bob2 | rpozo: what sort of machine is it? |
| 17:23.58 | rpozo | i built the machine but the drives are in a raid 5 array being run from an adaptec 2200S |
| 17:24.05 | valdyn | snowshelbi: m-a clean ipw2100 |
| 17:24.05 | snowshelbi | i did m-a clean ipw2100 then m-a a-i ipw2100 and i still get the same error |
| 17:24.10 | rpozo | I've already verified that the 2.6.8-11 kernel natively supports that controller |
| 17:24.29 | xaphod | bob2: ok, http://tdot-uw.dyndns.org/mail.log.0 is up. If you search in it for "onesteptofar", that's an example of one of the emails that didn't make it, and doesn't seem to still be around. |
| 17:24.29 | valdyn | snowshelbi: ls /usr/src/*deb |
| 17:24.30 | rpozo | aacraid and sd_mod come up just fine |
| 17:24.53 | snowshelbi | no such file or directiory |
| 17:24.57 | rpozo | the thing is it can't find the array to do the install so I can't get passed that part |
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| 17:25.50 | miguel | is it possible to run a shell script on backgroud, without attaching it toa tty? |
| 17:26.10 | xaphod | miguel: nohup script.sh params 2>&1 1>/dev/null & |
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| 17:26.21 | yipstar | resiak: thanks for the help got what I need and I'm removing non-free now. |
| 17:26.21 | rpozo | directhex: you there |
| 17:26.23 | rpozo | ? |
| 17:26.31 | resiak | yipstar: Erm |
| 17:26.38 | snowshelbi | valdyn, no such file or directory |
| 17:26.46 | resiak | yipstar: I wasn't telling you not to use it. |
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| 17:26.59 | yipstar | resiak: right you were just teaching me about it |
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| 17:27.30 | resiak | yipstar: No, I invoked that factoid because it tells you how to use non-free. |
| 17:27.43 | rpozo | bob2: any ideas? |
| 17:27.44 | bob2 | xaphod: it got accepted by hotmail |
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| 17:28.08 | bob2 | rpozo: I've never installed onto "hardware" raid, sorry. try asking on the debian-user list, maybe? |
| 17:28.12 | xaphod | bob2: can you give me a line # where you see that? I'm sorry if i've wasted your time, but the email didn't get to his acocunt... |
| 17:28.19 | yipstar | resiak: ok, I guess the wording of the factoid seems to imply most debianers frown upon non-free |
| 17:28.20 | snowshelbi | hmm, i must go. well, at least i am one step closer to getting this thing to work. thanks |
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| 17:28.40 | bob2 | xaphod: Jun 22 15:26:48 tdot-uw postfix/smtp[26780]: F2956229C7: to=<onesteptofar@hotmai |
| 17:28.42 | yipstar | resiak: but thank you for helping me solve my issue |
| 17:28.43 | bob2 | l.com>, relay=mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.167.5], delay=62, status=sent (250 <2005062 |
| 17:28.46 | bob2 | 2192542.3A340229BE@tdot-uw.dyndns.org> Queued mail for delivery) |
| 17:28.48 | bob2 | oops |
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| 17:29.09 | resiak | yipstar: It does. It's important that people know why non-free is separate. |
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| 17:29.14 | xaphod | bob2: but then right after smtpd says it has a timeout |
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| 17:30.33 | bob2 | xaphod: I'm almost certain those are other messages |
| 17:30.51 | zetor | hi all! |
| 17:30.51 | bob2 | xaphod: I could be wrong tho, it is 0330 |
| 17:30.54 | xaphod | bob2: ok. Well, i hate hotmail. Thanks very very much for your help, i think you should be bob#1 :) |
| 17:30.56 | roler | if I am running esd and a program writes to /dev/dsp should it mix? Or is there another device for esd tha I should use? |
| 17:31.27 | rpozo | is anyone here familiar with installing debian onto a hardware based raid 5 array? |
| 17:31.32 | FieldySnuts | roler: not a device, but these applications have to talk directly to ESD. that is to say, they have to have esd support built in |
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| 17:31.59 | zebedee | Hi all. Has anyone any experience with setting up a PPTP server/client combo? I'm having problems with the linux client side. |
| 17:32.05 | miguel | xaphod, this command nohup doens't work, when i logout the process is stoped |
| 17:32.12 | bob2 | an adaptec 2200S is hardware raid? |
| 17:32.14 | FieldySnuts | rpozo: if it's a real scsi , and real raid (not software or something lame), then all you do is go into the scsi bios send set up your arrays. the first array will show up as sda, second as sdb... ide or not 100% hardware, i have no idea (and those suck anyway) |
| 17:32.25 | roler | fieldysnuts; well my problem is with firefox... it's using /dev/dsp and obviously I am not getting sound because esd is using /dev/dsp ... I have no idea what to do in order ot make flash get sounds (right now, flash is freezing ALL open browsers) |
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| 17:32.41 | bob2 | ah, scsi-320 |
| 17:32.48 | abrotman | should be the same for true hardware raid .. with any disk type |
| 17:33.01 | FieldySnuts | roler: if the application doesn't have esd support, it's not going to work |
| 17:33.04 | bob2 | rpozo: does the 2.6 or 2.4 kernel work better? |
| 17:33.06 | FieldySnuts | bbl |
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| 17:33.49 | resiak | roler: You never found the moz wrapping stuff? |
| 17:34.27 | cmihai | Does anyone use JEdit? |
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| 17:34.52 | resiak | !anyone use |
| 17:34.52 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 17:35.13 | cmihai | That's nice. |
| 17:35.35 | resiak | roler: dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-browser |
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| 17:35.45 | Delph | cmihai: yup. What do you want to know about it? |
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| 17:36.06 | xaphod | miguel: no, that shouldn't happen... |
| 17:36.14 | cmihai | Delph: well, I'm not sure it's just JEdit or every other Java App, but the fonts really look aliased, and ugly. |
| 17:36.24 | abrotman | that'd be java :) |
| 17:36.28 | cmihai | I've used JEdit on an number of platforms, and it looks a lot better. |
| 17:36.41 | cmihai | I guess.. |
| 17:36.52 | cmihai | But... any ideas on how to improve the font look? |
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| 17:36.57 | kitty_ | I wanna use xterm for irssi, but changing windows with alt+<number> just outputs other stuff, how do I work around this? |
| 17:37.17 | Delph | try asking the people who wrote it. |
| 17:37.36 | js | kitty_: esc+number, meta+number, or use aterm |
| 17:37.40 | cmihai | I am. |
| 17:37.40 | resiak | kitty_: Use a decent terminal. |
| 17:38.01 | cmihai | Still wondering if other people were experiencing problems with font look (JDK 1.5 patch 3, latest JEdit) |
| 17:38.01 | caphuso | kitty_: configure xterm properly... see the metaSendsEscape resource |
| 17:38.13 | Delph | cmihai: why not try a java channel. |
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| 17:38.16 | abrotman | cmihai: i only know two people who use jedit .. and i'm not even sure they do anymore |
| 17:38.24 | roler | resiak; no man |
| 17:38.28 | cmihai | Delph: I am. |
| 17:38.31 | roler | resiak; :( |
| 17:38.45 | resiak | roler: dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-browser |
| 17:38.55 | roler | resiak; it says it's not installed |
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| 17:39.04 | resiak | roler: Meh. |
| 17:39.08 | roler | resiak; installing. |
| 17:39.10 | zetor | streuner: just a little feedback...did a dist-upgrade from stable(sarge) about ten minutes ago;everything is working good so far...me happy! |
| 17:39.23 | roler | resiak;i guess I can't use firefox then? |
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| 17:39.45 | resiak | roler: Sure you can. But why not try Galeon? ;) |
| 17:39.58 | zetor | streuner: sarge-->sid |
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| 17:40.45 | roler | resiak; do you know how Flash sound works/ Does flash pipe sound through the browser to pipe through the sound device? Or does the Flash plugin write directly to the device? |
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| 17:41.15 | resiak | roler: It opens and locks /dev/dsp, which is insanely annoying :) |
| 17:41.37 | roler | resiak; the browser does? |
| 17:41.43 | resiak | roler: The plugin does |
| 17:41.51 | roler | sigh... |
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| 17:41.56 | roler | resiak; so there is no fix for my issue then? |
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| 17:43.10 | sobersabre | what is the kernel variable kernel.HZ supposed to mean ? |
| 17:43.21 | resiak | roler: d-r m-b sets up a wrapper for plugins, and I _think_ that it'll work for Firebadger too. However, I don't _know_ because there's no option for aoss (the ALSA wrapper) so I just run galeon with aoss galeon. |
| 17:43.32 | greycat | sobersabre: "tick" frequency |
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| 17:43.50 | sobersabre | ok... is it CPU speed related ? |
| 17:43.58 | tvn | I added DocumentRoot /FullPath/WWW to /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and restart apache2 daemon but it still show the default page. Did I miss something ? |
| 17:44.03 | roler | resiak; well i'm using esd... should I be using the ALSA SD instead? |
| 17:44.19 | sobersabre | tvn... do the logs scream anything ? |
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| 17:45.11 | greycat | sobersabre: no, it's not related to CPU speed |
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| 17:45.34 | ttick | does anyone know if gnome-volume-manager runs as a system daemon, or if the user has to start a background process when the log in? |
| 17:45.44 | resiak | roler: ALSA's not a daemon, and in the long run will make all these problems go away. You may well already be using it... But the fact that you're running esd suggests that you're running Gnome and hence need esd for its sounds. esd and alsa don't seem to get along, which is a pisser. |
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| 17:45.50 | resiak | ttick: The latter |
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| 17:46.03 | resiak | ttick: hald and dbus run on startup |
| 17:46.10 | ttick | resiak: okay, thanks. that eases my concerns. |
| 17:46.13 | tvn | sobersabre: I don't see any error or warning in the logs |
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| 17:46.39 | bobw_ | Hey guys |
| 17:46.48 | roler | resiak; at this point I am not caring about gnome sounds anymore. Because when i'm doing development and have 10 browsers open and they all crash because of 1 stupid flash banner ad with sound, that is a real pisser |
| 17:46.51 | thegraham | Hi, I had exim4 setup to use authenticated SMTP for my smarthost (BT Yahoo) which was working until recently, and now no longer does... I've got the/etc/exim4/passwd. client setup and my update-exim4.conf.conf tells it to use the right smarthost, so what am I doing wrong? All my emails bounce back saying i need to send using authenticated SMTP |
| 17:47.27 | bob2 | thegraham: what did you change since it last worked? |
| 17:47.28 | resiak | roler: Disable esd! |
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| 17:48.50 | ttick | You know, it's kinda annoying that every other kernel fails to turn off the power on my various machines when I issue a "halt". It's kinda weird. In 2.2 it worked occationall, in 2.4 sometimes, in 2.6 is works on a machine it never worked on before, but on another it just gives me the "Power Down." message. Strange. |
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| 17:49.16 | bob2 | ttick: load the apm module |
| 17:49.54 | ksn | I m ahaving some fun, it seams that someone (customer found a loop in my security) and has installed a crap load of spyware on my public pc's lol |
| 17:49.59 | ttick | bob2: hmm. that might be a good idea. thanks, I'll try |
| 17:50.19 | greycat | lol is not a punctuation character |
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| 17:50.39 | roler | resiak; good enough. seems to work.. just gotta learn to share the device myself now, but better than a crashing browser |
| 17:50.46 | sdschulze | Anybody experiences with latex-beamer? I always get "Undefined control sequence" when compiling documents with class beamer. |
| 17:51.10 | resiak | !tell roler about dmix |
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| 17:51.37 | resiak | roler: Hmm, that one's no help if you haven't already set up alsa... |
| 17:51.52 | roler | well I think I have it setup |
| 17:52.02 | resiak | !tell roler -about alsa 2.6 |
| 17:52.16 | resiak | roler: You _are_ using a 2.6 kernel, aren't youL |
| 17:52.44 | resiak | roler: If not, your ALSA life will be made easier if you do. :) |
| 17:53.13 | thomas_adam | sdschulze: Using the example docs, or ones you have written yourself? |
| 17:53.14 | thegraham | bob2: nothing |
| 17:53.23 | resiak | roler: I'm heading off now. Enjoy! |
| 17:53.25 | thegraham | bob2: maybe updated? |
| 17:53.51 | sdschulze | thomas_adam: well, the latter and something from somebody else |
| 17:53.57 | sdschulze | But I can try the examples, too. |
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| 17:54.26 | roler | resiak; yes I am using 2.6 |
| 17:54.33 | roler | resiak ; thanks man, i appreciate it |
| 17:54.35 | sdschulze | thomas_adam: oh, and one generated from LyX |
| 17:54.52 | thomas_adam | sdschulze: Ugh. Lyx produces sketchy LaTeX at best. |
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| 17:55.04 | sdschulze | thomas_adam: the same with /usr/share/doc/latex-beamer/solutions/short-talks/speaker_introduction-ornate-2min.en.tex |
| 17:55.10 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | how can i as root retrieve a password? |
| 17:55.17 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | not remove but retrieve of another account |
| 17:55.29 | thomas_adam | Dragon-Eater-AFK: Just change it. |
| 17:55.46 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | :s |
| 17:55.52 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | i accidently did something stupid |
| 17:55.59 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | so.. |
| 17:56.14 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | its the mysql acc |
| 17:56.27 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | i AS root are getting denied |
| 17:56.44 | h0bbel | anyone have any idea why i can't install sarge off a nec dvd_rw ND.3520A? It starts the install, and then I get "installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted" . :( |
| 17:56.52 | zinx | isn't there some sort of admin mode you can start mysql in |
| 17:56.54 | ksn | Dragon-Eater-AFK: sounds like me ALL of the time, doing something that I shouldn't lol |
| 17:57.25 | h0bbel | Dragon-Eater-AFK: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/resetting-permissions.html |
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| 17:58.13 | abrotman | Dragon-Eater-AFK: or ask #mysql |
| 17:58.28 | abrotman | thomas_adam: pasties! |
| 17:58.37 | thomas_adam | :) |
| 17:58.39 | sdschulze | thomas_adam: It seems to be a path/location problem. |
| 17:58.44 | abrotman | you know .. when i say that .. i sound perverted .. because .. not everyone knows it's food |
| 17:58.52 | sdschulze | I'm not that familiar with location in TeX... |
| 17:58.56 | thomas_adam | abrotman: No? |
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| 17:59.32 | Jon | I'm trying to rescue a laptop with a busted CD-ROM via debian dvd. it's too broken to install debian properly but not broken enough to stop it booting. however, the console on F2 doesn't have access to fdisk, which is essential. I remember woody's did. would I be better off with woody's CD here? (I'm trying to copy grub's stage{1,2} files onto an ext2 partition to facilitate booting windows) |
| 18:00.11 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | h0bbel urs one is fault |
| 18:00.25 | abrotman | thomas_adam: you know .. pasties .. boobie things |
| 18:00.35 | thomas_adam | No? |
| 18:00.39 | abrotman | thomas_adam: really? |
| 18:00.44 | abrotman | maybe they don't have those in .uk |
| 18:00.54 | abrotman | damn our conservative government! |
| 18:00.54 | thomas_adam | It's not a word I'd associate in that manner, no. |
| 18:01.03 | Learn | pasties ?! |
| 18:01.12 | anubis_EO | can anyone tell me how to stop apache2 from defaulting to a virtualhost if it does not match a NameBased Virtual host entry?? |
| 18:01.39 | abrotman | thomas_adam: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pasties |
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| 18:01.42 | Learn | ahh Pasties: "a pair of adhesive patches worn to cover the nipples of exotic dancers and striptease performers " |
| 18:01.57 | abrotman | thomas_adam: pasties! |
| 18:02.00 | abrotman | mmm .. pasties |
| 18:02.01 | thomas_adam | Heh. |
| 18:02.09 | Jon | anubis_EO: it defaults to the first virtualhost entry - so put a dummy one in first |
| 18:02.14 | Learn | abrotman: pasties sounds like panties |
| 18:02.28 | abrotman | ok |
| 18:02.47 | abrotman | thomas_adam: though .. the pronounciation is different |
| 18:02.48 | Learn | Yeah... |
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| 18:03.52 | simonrvn | it's pastries you silly boy ;P |
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| 18:05.43 | abrotman | simonrvn: no .. it's pasties |
| 18:05.56 | abrotman | simonrvn: it's a food .. called pasty .. or pasties in plural |
| 18:05.59 | h0bbel | hrm, nevermind pasties. help me with my cdrom :-) |
| 18:06.04 | Learn | !start pasties war |
| 18:06.04 | simonrvn | pasties, like the little flowers on cakes? |
| 18:06.10 | abrotman | simonrvn: see the URL i pasted for thomas_adam above |
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| 18:06.11 | abrotman | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pasties |
| 18:06.14 | abrotman | or that |
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| 18:06.26 | abrotman | www.joespastyshop.com |
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| 18:06.40 | alexou_ | hi |
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| 18:07.18 | anubis_EO | Jon: but i'm using the sites-available sites-enabled method of running virtual hosts. how do i know which one will be read first??? |
| 18:07.29 | M4hd1 | hi, could anybody help me with smth? My kernel that used to compile fine with make-kpkg now gives me a lot of /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.10/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: i486-linux-gnu-gcc: command not found msgs :( what could b wrong? |
| 18:07.36 | abrotman | h0bbel: but pasties are good! |
| 18:07.49 | h0bbel | sure. but that doesn't help me right now :-) |
| 18:07.53 | simonrvn | ah, i see |
| 18:07.58 | simonrvn | little meat pie |
| 18:07.59 | alexou_ | i have probleme with my debian, acpi doesn't wan't to shutdown my computer, whan i i do acpi=off and apm=on my pc doesn't want to boot |
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| 18:08.09 | abrotman | h0bbel: your CD is broken ? |
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| 18:08.17 | abrotman | simonrvn: roughly .. but darn good |
| 18:08.25 | simonrvn | anubis_EO: sites-available never gets read |
| 18:08.27 | h0bbel | no, fresh download, fresh burn and it boots from it fine |
| 18:08.37 | abrotman | alexou_: how old is oyur ocmputer ? .. APM is old and broken |
| 18:08.38 | abrotman | !apm |
| 18:08.38 | dpkg | methinks apm is Advanced Power Management. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Power_Management |
| 18:08.43 | simonrvn | anubis_EO: only if the symlink exists in -enabled does it get read |
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| 18:08.52 | abrotman | h0bbel: so what's wrong ? |
| 18:09.14 | h0bbel | I get "installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted" |
| 18:09.22 | abrotman | scsi? sata? laptop ? |
| 18:09.26 | xaphod | Hey all, does the current Sarge installer support the root partition installed in a raid5 configuration atop an SATA physical device using LVM2 ? ie. root-on-raid5-on-lvm2-on-SATA |
| 18:09.29 | h0bbel | ide |
| 18:09.35 | alexou_ | abrotman 2 year old, but with acpi the computer doesn't shutdown :S |
| 18:09.49 | abrotman | alexou_: the implementation of acpi could be wrong on your computer |
| 18:09.51 | MrBallZ | hi =) |
| 18:09.52 | anubis_EO | simonrvn: i've got right now 3 virtual host symlinks from enabled to available, how do i, choose whic is the default virtualhost?? |
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| 18:10.08 | anubis_EO | *which |
| 18:10.17 | abrotman | h0bbel: can you mount it manually from the other console? .. and did you try 2.4 and 2.6 images ? |
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| 18:10.29 | alexou_ | abrotman the pb is when I active legacy support in my bios |
| 18:10.29 | simonrvn | you should see a 000default one or similar |
| 18:10.45 | h0bbel | abrotman: i did try both 2.4 and 2.6, haven't tried mounting it in any other way |
| 18:10.51 | MrBallZ | question: how should the settings in fstab be, so that when a particular partition is mounted at boot up , can be assigned to a certain user , or in other words that that certain user can have full control over it |
| 18:11.00 | abrotman | h0bbel: did you ask #debian-boot ? |
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| 18:11.06 | abrotman | h0bbel: i assume you m ean the sarge installer |
| 18:11.08 | oiio_ | since debian has released the next version, my apt-get update/dist-upgrade no longer get anything. I am currently on sarge. What do I need to change? |
| 18:11.08 | simonrvn | anubis_EO: and it's vice-versa, FYI. available *to* enabled. you have it reversed there in your statement |
| 18:11.18 | h0bbel | abrotman: yes |
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| 18:11.27 | abrotman | oiio_: sarge is stable |
| 18:11.30 | simonrvn | oiio_: uh, it's stable. |
| 18:11.36 | MachineScrew | I need to write to my 60gb HD as a normal user in GNOME how do i do this |
| 18:11.41 | greycat | MrBallZ: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 18:11.52 | Jon | anubis_EO: put the dummy entry in httpd.conf, before the Include conf.d/* etc. style-lines to guarantee it |
| 18:11.55 | simonrvn | MachineScrew: take a pen, then write on the drive with it |
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| 18:12.15 | MachineScrew | It mounts fine no problem there |
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| 18:12.20 | anubis_EO | simonrvn: :-) typo. k so i create a symlink with 000default to the default virtualhost? |
| 18:12.21 | oiio_ | abrotman hmm. Whatever I have -- there are no updates for it |
| 18:12.23 | simonrvn | i also do what Jon just said, i designate a default vhost |
| 18:12.27 | MachineScrew | simonrvn: funny |
| 18:12.28 | alexou_ | when i active "legacy support" in my bios acpi doesn't work but when "legacy support" is off, acpi work, i don't understand |
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| 18:12.48 | anubis_EO | i'll give that a try |
| 18:12.55 | simonrvn | MachineScrew: you'll need to be a little more specific as to your intentions |
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| 18:13.25 | abrotman | oiio_: yes .. it's stable |
| 18:13.33 | abrotman | alexou_: so .. keep it off ? |
| 18:13.45 | MachineScrew | simonrvn: I can't create directories or other files as a normal user |
| 18:13.55 | simonrvn | i wonder when these spammers will get a clue |
| 18:14.03 | MachineScrew | simonrvn: its formated with ext3 |
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| 18:14.18 | snowshelbi | re |
| 18:14.24 | alexou_ | abrotman, if it's off i can't have a dual boot, i can't choose at the grub or lilo boot without legacy support |
| 18:14.25 | simonrvn | MachineScrew: check the perimssions on the dir it's mounted to, then you might want to use the 'user' option in fstab |
| 18:14.34 | snowshelbi | so anyone who can help me with this module-assistant not installing ipw2100? |
| 18:14.36 | abrotman | alexou_: it's a dell isn't it ? |
| 18:14.42 | wasdasd | hello |
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| 18:14.50 | wasdasd | i have a massive problem |
| 18:15.05 | MachineScrew | simonrvn: Ubuntu dose somthing with USB drives its not in fstab or mtab |
| 18:15.08 | abrotman | wasdasd: put the lotion in the basket! |
| 18:15.19 | alexou_ | abrotman no, msi mother bird i have coose all the components |
| 18:15.24 | wasdasd | i cant ping myself (127.0.0.1) |
| 18:15.26 | simonrvn | MachineScrew: or even 'users' so that any user can read write to it. might want to look at setting that dir setgid, and a common group, like 'users', to allow writes |
| 18:15.28 | wasdasd | sendmsg(3, {msg_name(16)={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0.1")}, msg_iov(1)=[{"\10\0\230\357\213H\0\7\321\372\272B\\\200\0\0\10\t\n\v"..., 64}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 64recvmsg(3, 0xbfffeb30, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 18:15.34 | abrotman | alexou_: and if you turn off legacy acpi .. windows won't boot ? |
| 18:15.38 | abrotman | wasdasd: firewall ? |
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| 18:15.57 | simonrvn | MachineScrew: well we're not using ubuntu. |
| 18:16.15 | wasdasd | yes.. but not locally |
| 18:16.23 | wasdasd | and i should be able to ping myself, shouldnt i ? |
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| 18:16.30 | abrotman | wasdasd: ifconfig -a .. is lo there? |
| 18:16.34 | MachineScrew | simonrvn: I have changed the permesions on the drive I have changed the owner and nothing works |
| 18:16.47 | wasdasd | and with firefox i get this uberstrange error |
| 18:16.51 | wasdasd | lo is there |
| 18:16.58 | wasdasd | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.02 | wasdasd | with firefox: |
| 18:17.03 | alexou_ | abrotman i can't choose windows at the boot without legacy, because my keyboard is an usb |
| 18:17.04 | wasdasd | open("/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/chrome/chrome.rdf", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0664) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)bind(32, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(695), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
| 18:17.14 | wasdasd | also as root ! :-| |
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| 18:18.03 | simonrvn | 0.0.0.0:695 ? and wth are you running firefox as root? |
| 18:18.33 | simonrvn | MachineScrew: well, you can take my advice or leave it. |
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| 18:19.37 | alexou_ | thanks abrotman i stop windows for a moment :)) |
| 18:19.54 | abrotman | alexou_: that shouldn't matter .. |
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| 18:21.13 | xaphod | Can someone explain to me how one uses RAID5 and LVM at the same time? |
| 18:21.39 | Antisoche | Software RAID? |
| 18:21.46 | MachineScrew | simonrvn: took it worked |
| 18:21.57 | xaphod | antisoche: VIA chipset, so yeah, might as well use md instead of fakeraid |
| 18:22.00 | MachineScrew | simonrvn:thnks |
| 18:22.17 | simonrvn | ok. np |
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| 18:22.42 | xaphod | ... so does RAID5 run on top of LVM pv's (physical volumes) ? |
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| 18:23.02 | Jon | argh |
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| 18:23.23 | Antisoche | xaphod: I think you want to setup your RAID partition first and then run LVM on top of that. The other way doesn't really make much sense. |
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| 18:23.54 | wafasd | yo sorry |
| 18:24.00 | xaphod | really? so it's root-on-lvm2-on-RAID5 then? |
| 18:24.01 | wafasd | my firefox froze up again :/ |
| 18:24.32 | thedudethatcantp | inghimself.. |
| 18:24.45 | simonrvn | cantpee? |
| 18:24.50 | thedudethatcantp | ping |
| 18:24.54 | thedudethatcantp | :( |
| 18:24.57 | simonrvn | ee? |
| 18:25.00 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 18:25.10 | Tiberio | hi, who to list the shared directories whit NFS in the remote server from my desktop? |
| 18:25.11 | peeless | i just came in some minutes ago.. i cant ping myself |
| 18:25.22 | peeless | and i get strange errors |
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| 18:25.30 | Antisoche | xaphod: I think so. LVM can do RAID 1 striping, for example, so RAID 5 on top of that sounds like a mess. |
| 18:25.53 | xaphod | that would indeed be a mess :) Ok. i'll go read some howto or something |
| 18:25.54 | peeless | strace-firefox.log.2:open("/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/chrome/chrome.rdf", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0664) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)strace-firefox.log.2:bind(32, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(695), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied |
| 18:26.12 | peeless | and this happens even with root.. |
| 18:26.15 | Jon | peeless: is lo up |
| 18:26.20 | peeless | lo is up |
| 18:26.26 | Jon | ah well,out of ideas :) |
| 18:26.28 | simonrvn | peeless: this sounds newbie-sih, and stupid, but have you tried a reboot? how's your memory situation, is your swap full up? are the partitions full? how about the network its on, is it congested? |
| 18:27.03 | peeless | does lo need to show 127.0.1 during an ifconfig ? |
| 18:27.08 | Jon | yes |
| 18:27.13 | simonrvn | 127.0.0.1 is the default address |
| 18:27.14 | peeless | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.22 | Jon | try ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up |
| 18:27.22 | simonrvn | (in debian, anyway) |
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| 18:27.45 | peeless | h |
| 18:27.47 | peeless | ah :) |
| 18:27.51 | peeless | now i can ping myself |
| 18:27.53 | TeLLuS | Hi all.. Problem with new SATA swraid. Booted on IDE set up SATA as RAID with dmraid -ya got /dev/mapper/isw_fhgfg.. partition and swap and copied all from the ide drive. Next thing I'm trying to make a initrd but get:mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.11-1-686-smp 2.6.11-1-686-smp \n Unknown DM device 254:3 Should I use mdadm instead? |
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| 18:28.08 | Jon | peeless: yeah that's a weird thing I found out the hard way... not sure how you got into a situation where lo was down, though |
| 18:28.08 | peeless | i brb :))))) |
| 18:28.40 | peeless | could you tell me what to write into /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 18:28.58 | simonrvn | peeless: /join #flood for a sec |
| 18:29.09 | peeless | k |
| 18:29.12 | peeless | i try |
| 18:29.19 | Tiberio | hi, who to list the shared directories whit NFS on the remote server? |
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| 18:30.39 | simonrvn | Tiberio: eh? you can see them with 'mount' (no quotes) |
| 18:32.04 | yipstar | I apt-get installed apache 1.3 however i don't seem to have an httpd.conf file in /etc/apache, any pointers? |
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| 18:32.44 | yipstar | am i to copy the default config file from /usr/share/apache ? |
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| 18:33.12 | greycat | yipstar: dpkg --purge --force-depends apache; apt-get install apache |
| 18:33.13 | abrotman | yipstar: apache-common was installed ? |
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| 18:33.44 | Tiberio | simonrvn, I want to list all directories that the remote server export from my debian desktop. |
| 18:34.00 | greycat | Tiberio: NFS? showmount -e hostname |
| 18:34.13 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 18:34.50 | yipstar | abrotman: libapache-mod-ssl |
| 18:35.07 | abrotman | yipstar: that's not a package that would have a config file |
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| 18:35.15 | abrotman | well .. not a httpd.conf |
| 18:35.26 | yipstar | so i need to install apache-common |
| 18:35.29 | yipstar | ? |
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| 18:36.03 | abrotman | yipstar: it shuld be installed as soon as you install apache or apache2 |
| 18:36.45 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | Finally :"D |
| 18:36.45 | jair | hello guys I am having a little problem with my laptop and the acpi, on the kernel 2.6.8-2 i686, I did install a kernel image from "testing" and the computer works good I type "halt" and it turn off completely, I type "shutdown -h now" and it also turn it off completely. How could i fix that in the kernel for sarge which is the flavor I am running "stable"? |
| 18:37.07 | jair | should I do a "apt-get dist upgrade? |
| 18:37.10 | Tiberio | greycat, I don't have the showmount command.. What's the package |
| 18:37.10 | Dragon-Eater | me got a debian server up and running and placing old backups of mysql files etc in 5 hours and 26 minutes |
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| 18:37.23 | diegows | hello |
| 18:37.26 | Dragon-Eater | good ey for a noob like me :p |
| 18:37.31 | diegows | whereis are the gpg debian public keys? |
| 18:37.35 | yipstar | abortman: yes apache-common was installed with I did apache-mod-ssl |
| 18:37.48 | diegows | i need check de Release.gpg file but i can't find de pub keys |
| 18:38.05 | valdyn | jair: dont try that, if a testing kernel works, stick to that kernel, "backporting" that fix from 2.6.whatever to a sarge kernel is not worth it and pointless |
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| 18:39.23 | jair | valdyn, how are you? |
| 18:39.33 | greycat | !find bin/showmount$ sarge |
| 18:39.39 | valdyn | fine, thanks. |
| 18:39.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/showmount' (1): (/sbin/showmount) in net/nfs-common. |
| 18:40.16 | jair | valdyn, this is what is happening, I install the .deb kernel 2.6.11.1 ok from testing, but when I boot I do not have alsa working. |
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| 18:40.31 | jair | valdyn, I will have to reconfigure alsa and wireless on that kernel?? |
| 18:40.49 | valdyn | jair: is that a self compiled kernel? |
| 18:41.04 | jair | valdyn, but the alsa will work on that kernel the same alsa modules from the 2.6.8 on 2.6.11? |
| 18:41.11 | peeless | re .. now the first issue with firefox and pinging localhost is solved |
| 18:41.18 | jair | valdyn, yes |
| 18:41.18 | Tiberio | greycat, thanks |
| 18:41.21 | bobwJek | anyone have some good open source GUI attractive network/system diagram software?? |
| 18:41.25 | peeless | dhanx simonrvn and the other dudes |
| 18:41.27 | jair | valdyn, it is a .deb |
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| 18:41.41 | snowshelbi | hmm, ok this is weird, i am truying to install ipw2100 through module-assistant but it fails in the process. it complains in the error log about a missing workqueue.h but when checking in the directory the file is there :S |
| 18:41.42 | jair | valdyn, I download it from the packages of testing |
| 18:41.44 | simonrvn | np |
| 18:41.54 | h0bbel | hrm, the debian sarge installer doesn't like cdroms on IDE4 ;-) |
| 18:41.55 | valdyn | jair: now, did you compile the kernel-image? |
| 18:42.04 | peeless | but.. i cant connect to irc through 6667 .. but to 994 is no problem.. |
| 18:42.08 | simonrvn | bobwJek: dia? though i hear it isn't great |
| 18:42.10 | valdyn | jair: ops, ignore above line, did you compile or install a kernel-image? |
| 18:42.26 | jair | snowshelbi, we can do it together I can help you with that. |
| 18:42.27 | bobwJek | simonrnv: thanks |
| 18:42.28 | simonrvn | peeless: that might be your isp, or your tunnel provider if using ipv6 |
| 18:42.45 | peeless | naw dude, its me.. |
| 18:42.50 | peeless | it works within windows :( |
| 18:42.52 | simonrvn | i've used dia briefly, it seemed simplistic, but ok for that |
| 18:42.53 | valdyn | jair: i can get that info if you paste the output of "uname -r" |
| 18:42.54 | snowshelbi | jair: yay cool |
| 18:43.01 | jair | valdyn, I download the kernel image from the main debian.org packages. |
| 18:43.08 | peeless | "futex(0x81f34b0, FUTEX_WAIT, 54, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" |
| 18:43.22 | simonrvn | goddamn, what's wrong with that box? |
| 18:43.23 | valdyn | jair: ok, alright. Alsa drivers are in there, try rerunning alsaconf I guess. |
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| 18:43.35 | simonrvn | overloaded? |
| 18:43.42 | peeless | mine ? |
| 18:43.46 | valdyn | jair: also /msg dpkg alsa 2.6 |
| 18:43.46 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 18:43.48 | peeless | im running fluxbox .. |
| 18:43.50 | jair | valdyn, this is the kernel i am running |
| 18:43.51 | jair | kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 |
| 18:43.56 | peeless | nothing else open than firefox.. |
| 18:44.10 | simonrvn | peeless: how about in the background? heh, strange |
| 18:44.15 | valdyn | jair: alright, dont confuse this with 2.6.11.1, its -1 ) |
| 18:44.17 | jair | valdyn, I did not success |
| 18:44.22 | snowshelbi | ah...but i have a 2.4 kernel |
| 18:44.25 | simonrvn | 'succeed' |
| 18:44.27 | peeless | well it is an old PIII ... |
| 18:44.30 | snowshelbi | i dont see how our problems are related? |
| 18:44.36 | valdyn | jair: error message? |
| 18:44.38 | jair | snowshelbi, hmmm why you do not install kernel 2.6.8 |
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| 18:44.47 | snowshelbi | me m-a is complaining about a missing header file that is actually there! |
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| 18:45.00 | jrbn | hi people, i have a problem with my debian box, may I ask here? |
| 18:45.00 | jair | valdyn, nope I do not get any error it jost do not work |
| 18:45.11 | peeless | but now only 141 of 250 MB RAM are used... |
| 18:45.23 | valdyn | snowshelbi: if you were the one trying to compile ipw2100, then use a 2.6.x kernel, 2.4 is not supported by the ipw2100 driver |
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| 18:45.33 | jair | kernel-image-2.6.11.1-686 |
| 18:45.37 | simonrvn | ah, that's why |
| 18:45.46 | valdyn | jair: you mean its not finding your soundcard? |
| 18:46.09 | simonrvn | peeless: shouldn't matter, i'm typing from a p2/350, 128 MB RAM |
| 18:46.31 | simonrvn | though the mobo is more recent =) |
| 18:46.36 | snowshelbi | valdyn, i am using the ipw2100-source. is that too unsupported? |
| 18:46.41 | simonrvn | mmm, garbage finds ;) |
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| 18:46.49 | jair | snowshelbi, please type this on your terminal as root: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 18:47.02 | jair | snowshelbi, sorry apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 18:47.08 | simonrvn | jair: uh, what? |
| 18:47.12 | valdyn | snowshelbi: ipw2100-source requires a 2.6.4+ kernel |
| 18:47.13 | peeless | mhm.. damn .. :/ |
| 18:47.13 | simonrvn | oh, hehe |
| 18:47.18 | snowshelbi | ah... |
| 18:47.30 | snowshelbi | hmm, how long will reinstalling the kernel take? |
| 18:47.40 | simonrvn | not long |
| 18:47.45 | valdyn | snowshelbi: its on http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net |
| 18:47.51 | valdyn | snowshelbi: 20 seconds? |
| 18:47.52 | gin_ | how can i know my ip-host witha command from console without /sbin/ifconfig -A |
| 18:48.03 | jair | snowshelbi, easy and quick |
| 18:48.07 | greycat | gin_: you can't. |
| 18:48.25 | greycat | Unix is not designed to let you write a script to determine what your own IP addresses are. |
| 18:48.35 | valdyn | jair: missing a precise description of what does not work w/ alsaconf still ) |
| 18:48.36 | greycat | especially if you're inside a NAT |
| 18:48.41 | jair | snowshelbi, I have to resintall mine to so download the http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net driver and firmware |
| 18:48.53 | jair | valdyn, ok |
| 18:48.56 | greycat | you, the administrator, the GOD of UNIX, are assumed to know. |
| 18:49.17 | justin | sure you can |
| 18:49.28 | justin | wget -qO- checkip.dyndns.org |
| 18:49.47 | jair | valdyn, I did try to run alsaconf running the testing kernel, it damage the alsaconf in the other kernel as well. and i did not recive any error but it just do not give me sound |
| 18:49.49 | greycat | justin: I should have gone on to say "without asking someone in the outer world for help" |
| 18:50.18 | greycat | Microsoft should run a service that spits out your IP address for you. |
| 18:50.21 | justin | greycat: well there isn't much you can do when you are behind a NAT'd address |
| 18:50.24 | greycat | They're big enough to handle it. |
| 18:50.26 | jair | valdyn, if I reconfigure alsa running the kernel 2.6.8-2 this will affect the other kernels I might have on my system? |
| 18:50.29 | valdyn | jair: the tool "alsaconf" doesnt give sound, run it, tell me what it finds or does not find. |
| 18:50.50 | valdyn | jair: unlikely |
| 18:50.51 | greycat | Google is more likely to do it, however. They're big enough *and* smart enough. |
| 18:50.56 | slept | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.21 | jair | valdyn, the tool find the sound card and then it write the configuration to modconf.d or something like that |
| 18:51.40 | valdyn | jair: great, so your sound should be working that far. |
| 18:51.59 | gin_ | how is named, the property to monitoring my inet velocity to Add in the bar ? |
| 18:52.00 | jair | valdyn, then i tried the speaker-test and did not give me sound? or I should try first the "alsactl store" then run speaker-test? |
| 18:52.02 | greycat | imadev:~$ curl checkip.dyndns.org |
| 18:52.02 | greycat | <html><head><title>Current IP Check</title></head><body>Current IP Address: 10.76.142.103<!-- proxy --></body></html> |
| 18:52.08 | greycat | hmm, not too bad. |
| 18:52.09 | jair | hmmm |
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| 18:52.46 | greycat | gin_: I don't understand what you mean by "Add in the bar" |
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| 18:53.06 | justin | greycat: bar graph i think |
| 18:53.20 | greycat | like the ones on http://209.142.155.49/greycat.yi.org/graphs.cgi ? |
| 18:53.21 | valdyn | jair: check your volume settings |
| 18:53.27 | valdyn | jair: like with alsamixer |
| 18:53.32 | jair | valdyn, I will reboot ok this is the kernel 2.6.8-2-686 the one i am running now, alsa works here perfecly the only problem on this kernel is that do not turn off the battery fan and wireless connection. |
| 18:53.38 | jair | ok |
| 18:53.45 | gin_ | greycat, Add to panel, sorry. |
| 18:53.51 | jair | valdyn, I will reboot with the other kernel the testing one |
| 18:53.54 | greycat | sounds, err, gnomish. |
| 18:54.13 | peeless | hi greycat |
| 18:54.14 | jair | valdyn, If I reinstall alsa in the other kernel those changes will affect this one i am on ? 2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 18:54.43 | Rex | hi |
| 18:54.44 | valdyn | jair: unlikely ( im not sure ) |
| 18:55.07 | Rex | does anyone here have or know supermount patch for kernel 2.6.12? |
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| 18:55.25 | gin_ | greycat i don't remember what it is the name.. |
| 18:55.44 | Rex | .. |
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| 18:56.11 | xegsys | hi all |
| 18:56.16 | jair | snowshelbi, did you start the installation of your kernel 2.6? |
| 18:56.17 | Rex | Anybody know or have the patch of supermount for kernel 2.6.12 |
| 18:56.22 | Rex | hi xegsys |
| 18:56.32 | peeless | read(3, 0xbffff360, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)futex(0x81ec8c0, FUTEX_WAIT, 4, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)futex(0x81ec8c0, FUTEX_WAIT, 5, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 18:56.40 | abrotman | peeless: drink more |
| 18:56.51 | valdyn | jair: alsa should work the same on both, but volume settings may not be restored when switching kernels, so check your volume settings |
| 18:56.53 | peeless | anyone might know why i can connect to irc using ssl and port 994 but not 6667.. ?! |
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| 18:57.03 | xegsys | quick question.. I made a mistake when choosing my debconf configuration option on first boot (I'd like to use gnome, not dialog). Any idea where the setting can be changed? I tried /etc/debconf.conf - doesn't seem to be there |
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| 18:57.06 | justin | peeless: firewall |
| 18:57.09 | gin_ | greycat, do u remember dude ? |
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| 18:57.09 | Rex | pee , i think you will need bnc :\ |
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| 18:57.19 | peeless | abrotman, ive just come back from rehab.. |
| 18:57.26 | abrotman | with rsync .. if $FILE is deleted from SRC .. will it be removed from DEST ? |
| 18:57.32 | greycat | gin_: how the fuck am I supposed to remember something I've never seen? |
| 18:57.35 | justin | abrotman: if you tell it to |
| 18:57.36 | peeless | justin, no, its the linux ...... it works with windows |
| 18:57.41 | abrotman | justin: suppose i don't :) |
| 18:57.46 | simonrvn | xegsys: dpkg-reconfigure debonf. but leave it on dialog. you might regret it later if you have to run the xserver-xfree86 one again |
| 18:57.52 | abrotman | justin: i assume you mean the default is to not delete from DEST |
| 18:57.54 | simonrvn | xegsys: er, debconf |
| 18:58.01 | justin | abrotman: man rsync /delete |
| 18:58.05 | gin_ | greycat, never have u seen a monitor networking ? |
| 18:58.09 | xegsys | simonrvn: thanks!! |
| 18:58.10 | snowshelbi | jair, i am checking first what is this cfq / deadline stuff someone told me to change in my bootloader |
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| 18:58.11 | greycat | gin_: no. |
| 18:58.18 | abrotman | justin: yeah .. i found the --del-after etc .. |
| 18:58.23 | xirtam | i get a gpg-error on apt-get update ... anyone could give me a hint to import the right key? |
| 18:58.23 | gin_ | :S |
| 18:58.25 | Rex | does anyone here have or know supermount patch for kernel 2.6.12? |
| 18:58.30 | greycat | !tell Rex about repeat |
| 18:58.32 | jasoncohen | this is strange, when i try to install fam (replacing gamin so that i can satisfy amarok's build dependencies) apt-get wants to remove 423 packages! |
| 18:58.43 | Rex | WOW SAMEONE SAW ME! |
| 18:58.47 | jasoncohen | the last time i did this it just removed gamin and libgamin and installed fam |
| 18:58.50 | greycat | Rex: twice. |
| 18:58.53 | abrotman | heh |
| 18:58.58 | gin_ | greycat, exist a system monitor, right ? |
| 18:58.59 | valdyn | jasoncohen: try aptitude for the same thing? |
| 18:59.00 | Rex | and i didnt see the answer ! |
| 18:59.05 | jasoncohen | valdyn, same output |
| 18:59.07 | abrotman | justin: have you used rsync for local copying ? |
| 18:59.10 | greycat | Rex: maybe there wasn't one |
| 18:59.11 | jasoncohen | valdyn, they want to remove the same packages |
| 18:59.28 | Rex | !tell greycat about rude |
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| 18:59.37 | valdyn | jasoncohen: so a ( probably caused by transition ) bug in sid? |
| 18:59.45 | greycat | !tell Rex about *plonk* |
| 18:59.51 | jasoncohen | valdyn, probably |
| 18:59.59 | jasoncohen | guess, i'm not recompiling amarok SVN today |
| 19:00.05 | Rex | !tell greycat about ignored |
| 19:00.13 | Rex | !tell greycat about ignore |
| 19:00.17 | jair | snowshelbi, no my friend what computer do you have? processor? |
| 19:00.21 | simonrvn | Rex: stop acting like a dumbass, please |
| 19:00.23 | abrotman | !botabuse |
| 19:00.23 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 19:00.26 | jair | snowshelbi, it is a laptop right? |
| 19:00.28 | Rex | lol |
| 19:00.32 | jasoncohen | valdyn, http://pastebin.ca/15665 |
| 19:00.33 | Rex | nice bot ;) |
| 19:00.39 | greycat | dpkg, ignore is also the only method a busy person has to deal with pests |
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| 19:00.44 | greycat | damn it. |
| 19:00.44 | Rex | i wasnt know all have acess to it :) |
| 19:00.54 | simonrvn | woops :) |
| 19:01.02 | snowshelbi | jair, laptop |
| 19:01.12 | SAD-PERSON | :( |
| 19:01.14 | valdyn | jasoncohen: i yesterday tried apt-get install kde-devel, since kde requires fam and that conflicts w/ gamin that resulted in just the same.. |
| 19:01.16 | Rex | Is there anyone here have or know supermount patch for kernel 2.6.12? |
| 19:01.24 | sypher | hey guys, i have a nice problem here ... got some files with this name "directory\filename.extension" ... i want to rename them all to just "filename.extension" ... is there an automatic way to do that? :/ |
| 19:01.41 | resiak | greycat: Yes? |
| 19:01.45 | simonrvn | greycat: try it |
| 19:01.46 | Rex | i wasnt know the problem is nice thing! |
| 19:02.06 | greycat | dpkg, ignore =~ s/way./way, or the only method a busy person has to deal with annoying pests./ |
| 19:02.06 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 19:02.06 | asuffield | greycat: you need 'ignore (.*)' or some crap like that |
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| 19:02.20 | abrotman | Rex: stop repeating .. have oyu even *tried* google ? |
| 19:02.21 | rr72 | trollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll |
| 19:02.21 | greycat | asuffield: I don't want to change the CMD one. just the "ignore" one without arguments. |
| 19:02.27 | jasoncohen | valdyn, a few days ago, when i did apt-get build-dep amarok (installs kde-devel) it removed gamin and libgamin and installed the needed kde devel packages. how do i report a bug like this, or do i? |
| 19:02.34 | jair | snowshelbi, ok I will reboot and start configuring mine |
| 19:02.41 | greycat | simonrvn: yes, it worked. |
| 19:02.42 | jair | snowshelbi, I will be back in a sec |
| 19:02.46 | simonrvn | cool |
| 19:02.46 | Rex | abro , i havent reprat |
| 19:02.52 | asuffield | greycat: oh, hmm, parser bug |
| 19:02.53 | Rex | check what did i sayed |
| 19:02.57 | asuffield | or design flaw, rather |
| 19:03.00 | abrotman | Rex: yes you did .. i just saw you ask before you and greycat traded insults |
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| 19:03.09 | Rex | show me |
| 19:03.09 | Rex | :] |
| 19:03.14 | Rex | past it here please |
| 19:03.16 | jair | I have a IBM laptop but also a ethernet wire connection until i run the wireless ;) |
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| 19:03.28 | greycat | I never insulted him until the "annoying pests" bit. |
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| 19:03.34 | abrotman | Rex: if you'd READ THE TOPIC .. you know pasting is frowned upon |
| 19:03.37 | valdyn | jasoncohen: i'd have a look if it isnt filed already, not sure which package to file it against. |
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| 19:03.50 | snowshelbi | jair, so will i, i just installed it |
| 19:03.51 | rr72 | jerk |
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| 19:03.55 | Rex | i disbled topic showing! |
| 19:04.06 | veleno | i have a pdf which i'd like to convert so that in each paper there are 2 pages: is there any tool to do that? |
| 19:04.09 | jasoncohen | valdyn, apt-get install kde-devel seems fine here |
| 19:04.12 | abrotman | Rex: you're a bad netizen |
| 19:04.22 | Rex | and why i would care? |
| 19:04.24 | jair | snowshelbi, ok'let me go to the other kernel ok ;) |
| 19:04.26 | eeyore- | veleno: CUPS, print something 2-Up format |
| 19:04.27 | jasoncohen | valdyn, 22 new installed, 4 to remove (gamin, gnome, gnome-desktop-environment, libgamin0) |
| 19:04.27 | valdyn | jasoncohen: probably b/c you do not have gnome installed.. |
| 19:04.29 | abrotman | fucking moron |
| 19:04.35 | jasoncohen | valdyn, i do - i use gnome 2.10 |
| 19:04.46 | simonrvn | abrotman: i suggest *plonk* |
| 19:04.49 | Rex | ammmm , is there samethinges new in "abrotman fucking moron" ? |
| 19:04.52 | abrotman | *plink* |
| 19:04.58 | valdyn | jasoncohen: oh nm, the thing got fixed overnight. |
| 19:05.04 | abrotman | simonrvn: i have much less brain matter than greycat :) |
| 19:05.12 | jasoncohen | valdyn, the problem is only with fam |
| 19:05.17 | Rex | wow you have brain! |
| 19:05.26 | Rex | thats look great |
| 19:05.29 | jasoncohen | valdyn, do you use fam or gamin? |
| 19:05.38 | Rex | but the question is , can you or did you used it before? |
| 19:05.41 | Rex | ;) |
| 19:05.44 | valdyn | jasoncohen: true, fam removes still all of gnome. |
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| 19:06.22 | abrotman | valdyn: it removes the metapackage |
| 19:06.25 | jasoncohen | valdyn, still? this is new to me- it didnt' happen a few days ago- perhaps a week |
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| 19:06.47 | Rex | valdyn , use kde its better |
| 19:07.01 | resiak | !start a wm war |
| 19:07.01 | dpkg | fvwm95 sucks! |
| 19:07.16 | jasoncohen | yeah, removing just gnome isn't a big deal as it's just the meta package but when i install fam it wants to remove half my system |
| 19:07.16 | Rex | !start openbox |
| 19:07.22 | valdyn | abrotman: apt-get install fam will remove all of gnome for me, not just the metapackage |
| 19:07.25 | Rex | !start a enbox |
| 19:07.34 | phorce1 | how can one see a "snapshot" of the bandwidth flowing through eth0? Glanced at my cable modem lights and the activity light is on steady -- trying to figure out which machine is sucking up the bandwidth. (woody on the machine I want to check most) |
| 19:07.36 | Rex | !start a wm ox |
| 19:07.36 | abrotman | valdyn: famd ? |
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| 19:07.39 | resiak | !stab Rex |
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| 19:07.43 | Rex | !start a wm openbox |
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| 19:07.49 | abrotman | phorce1: ntop ? |
| 19:07.52 | resiak | Rex: Please shut the hell up. |
| 19:07.53 | valdyn | abrotman: yea well, the package is called "fam" |
| 19:07.54 | Rex | !start a wm fluxbox |
| 19:08.01 | resiak | !tell Rex -about msgdpkg |
| 19:08.04 | Rex | !start a wm blackbox |
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| 19:08.12 | abrotman | valdyn: i thught it was famd .. but on sarge .. that package is required for the metapackage 'gnome' |
| 19:08.12 | phorce1 | abrotman: Thx -- looking to see if it's here. brb |
| 19:08.14 | jasoncohen | abrotman, yeah, does it do the same for you? |
| 19:08.19 | Rex | !start kde |
| 19:08.20 | jasoncohen | valdyn, should i report it on the fam package? |
| 19:08.21 | Rex | lol |
| 19:08.27 | Rex | i know why the bot didnt answer! |
| 19:08.29 | abrotman | jasoncohen: dunno .. i'm not messing with fam :) |
| 19:08.32 | Rex | i have been ignored him |
| 19:08.32 | Rex | :D |
| 19:08.35 | Dragon-Eater | !start rhino |
| 19:08.41 | valdyn | abrotman: i see, were talking about sid. |
| 19:08.48 | abrotman | valdyn: /msg dpkg sid |
| 19:09.03 | resiak | !ops <whine>Rex is a taaaard</whine> |
| 19:09.04 | valdyn | abrotman: i know that factoid by heart ) |
| 19:09.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: <whine>Rex is a taaaard</whine> |
| 19:09.05 | simonrvn | i see rex is still acting like a dumbass *sigh*. Rex i suggest you read a netiquette guide |
| 19:09.10 | Dragon-Eater | [23/Thu 21:05] <dpkg> the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 19:09.13 | valdyn | abrotman: were trying to figure out which package is broken. |
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| 19:09.20 | Rex | now dpkg is unignored |
| 19:09.22 | jasoncohen | valdyn, it just wants to remove gnome for you? for me it wants to remove all of gnome, kde and many other packages |
| 19:09.28 | Rex | !start openbox |
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| 19:09.36 | resiak | Dragon-Eater: Yes, thank you for that. |
| 19:09.37 | Rex | !start a wm war |
| 19:09.37 | dpkg | fluxbox blows! |
| 19:09.40 | valdyn | jasoncohen: i dont have kde installed |
| 19:09.40 | abrotman | valdyn: check the depends for fam .. i guess .. sounds like a = instead of => etc |
| 19:09.45 | *** part/#debian Rex (~Rex@217.164.63.217) |
| 19:09.46 | jasoncohen | valdyn, ah |
| 19:09.47 | simonrvn | it's because of libfam0c102 |
| 19:09.48 | Dragon-Eater | np resiak |
| 19:09.51 | exerd | hi i need some help mounting my viking usb 2.0 memory! |
| 19:09.52 | valdyn | abrotman: yea, something like that, not found yet |
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| 19:09.56 | jasoncohen | valdyn, what severity should i report the bug as? |
| 19:09.57 | simonrvn | they dep on libfam0c102 |
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| 19:10.00 | Rex | what did i do? |
| 19:10.01 | abrotman | oh .. this should be good |
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| 19:10.07 | simonrvn | jasoncohen, valdyn ^^^ |
| 19:10.14 | Rex | i have been unignored *!*@ ! |
| 19:10.17 | LoRez | Rex: stop playing with the bots |
| 19:10.18 | psyklops | what is x.org's package named? |
| 19:10.23 | Dragon-Eater | LoRez |
| 19:10.23 | greycat | psyklops: it's not in debian yet |
| 19:10.24 | Rex | now i can see all thinges! |
| 19:10.24 | simonrvn | thank LoRez |
| 19:10.26 | valdyn | simonrvn: ah nice, so api transition bug? |
| 19:10.26 | abrotman | psyklops: not in debian yet |
| 19:10.26 | Hohlraum | is there an nvidia deb set in the debian archives for kernel 2.6 ? .. i thought there was when I was following sarge previously. |
| 19:10.28 | Dragon-Eater | bots are here to play with |
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| 19:10.32 | Dragon-Eater | and help out too |
| 19:10.32 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: in /msg |
| 19:10.32 | phorce1 | abrotman: this machine also keeps randomly dropping "eth0 --- no resources" (or something like that, forgot to copy before I started screen) errors. Makes it suspect. Installing ntop now |
| 19:10.33 | simonrvn | valdyn: seems so |
| 19:10.33 | valdyn | simonrvn: err, abi |
| 19:10.39 | valdyn | simonrvn: thanks |
| 19:10.41 | abrotman | Dragon-Eater: the bots are not really to play with |
| 19:10.42 | simonrvn | yeh abi |
| 19:10.43 | LoRez | Dragon-Eater: no, playing with the bots is done in /msg |
| 19:10.45 | Rex | loRez , can i play with it in privte pleace? :) |
| 19:10.54 | abrotman | kill him! |
| 19:10.57 | jasoncohen | simonrvn, you sure? i have gnome 2.10 and KDE installed and libfam0c102 is uninstalled |
| 19:11.00 | Rex | what? |
| 19:11.00 | Dragon-Eater | then why do all bots contain some funny / entertaining messages? |
| 19:11.03 | resiak | Rex: In private is okay. |
| 19:11.04 | psyklops | hm... so if I wanted it would I have to compile it myself? (I think that might be pretty tough, X is hard to just configure, can't imagine compiling) |
| 19:11.06 | simonrvn | i'd keep libfam0c102 installed until it's fixed |
| 19:11.07 | Rex | i really like that bot! |
| 19:11.08 | jair | snowshelbi, are you there? |
| 19:11.08 | jasoncohen | simonrvn, i think gnome/kde can use gamin or fam |
| 19:11.12 | Rex | id like to try it! |
| 19:11.13 | Dragon-Eater | !man pr0n |
| 19:11.15 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: to be used sparingly. |
| 19:11.20 | resiak | Dragon-Eater: Within _reason_ they are amusing tools. |
| 19:11.24 | simonrvn | look at libgnomevfs2-common |
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| 19:11.29 | simonrvn | jasoncohen: ^^ |
| 19:11.29 | resiak | LoRez: Not a furry, but a clunky! |
| 19:11.31 | Dragon-Eater | i didnt say u should use them millions of times |
| 19:11.47 | Dragon-Eater | but some are funny u wanna share with a room |
| 19:11.48 | jair | snowshelbi, ok I have a very good tutorial for that configuration of the centrino a very good how-to |
| 19:11.48 | Rex | loRez , whats the privte pleace whats i can play with that bot in? |
| 19:11.54 | Dragon-Eater | and have a grouplaugh :p |
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| 19:12.01 | LoRez | Rex: it's called query |
| 19:12.08 | Dragon-Eater | Like, why did the chicken crossed the road? |
| 19:12.10 | jasoncohen | simonrvn, ah, you're right |
| 19:12.11 | Rex | wow! |
| 19:12.14 | Dragon-Eater | coz he were on the windows side. |
| 19:12.15 | snowshelbi | nice |
| 19:12.16 | Rex | and its will work? |
| 19:12.18 | snowshelbi | link me :D |
| 19:12.21 | simonrvn | of course, i just checked it :) |
| 19:12.22 | phorce1 | Dragon-Eater: but if every person logged in uses them only twice in public there would be no room for other conversation |
| 19:12.22 | Rex | i was thinking about a chan! |
| 19:12.24 | greycat | Rex: /query dpkg |
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| 19:12.33 | Rex | why i cant use /msg ? |
| 19:12.40 | Dragon-Eater | phorce1 but not everyone comes at once |
| 19:12.41 | beardy | Is it sunday already? |
| 19:12.41 | Rex | or even notice! |
| 19:12.47 | resiak | !permasunday |
| 19:12.47 | Spec | beardy: nope |
| 19:12.47 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 19:12.48 | Dragon-Eater | nor everyone likes playing with bots |
| 19:12.50 | valdyn | jasoncohen: "apt-get install fam libfam0c102" |
| 19:12.53 | Dragon-Eater | so that would decrease dramaticly |
| 19:12.58 | Dragon-Eater | !deadrat |
| 19:12.59 | dpkg | [deadrat] cf: roothat, redhat |
| 19:13.04 | Rex | loRez keep your brain cold |
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| 19:13.09 | Dragon-Eater | !ratdead |
| 19:13.13 | Dragon-Eater | mmz |
| 19:13.21 | Rex | if your brain cold , be sure your brain is safe from explodeing :) |
| 19:13.33 | Rex | you can test this in seince class :) |
| 19:13.35 | valdyn | jasoncohen: its a disability of apt-get or aptitude to chose installing libfam0c102 over removing a shitload |
| 19:13.37 | simonrvn | i wouldn't bother with fam, gamin conflicts with it |
| 19:13.40 | Rex | well waiy |
| 19:13.49 | Rex | cold + hat = very fast explode! |
| 19:13.51 | phorce1 | Dragon-Eater: It's a "feel for it" thing. Have to see what's going on in chan and decide for yorself if you think bot-abuse is a good thing at the time |
| 19:13.54 | jasoncohen | valdyn, that problem must have just been introduced |
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| 19:13.56 | sypher | hey guys, someone knowns whats the perl expression to substitute "whatever its before the \" to another thing ? |
| 19:13.56 | snowshelbi | jair, yay, done compiling my ipw2100 stuff, now i am getting the firmware |
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| 19:14.05 | Dragon-Eater | !roothat |
| 19:14.06 | dpkg | A newer Linux distro which has gained a large following of clueless people. Great for the "Start Menu" crowd who'd like to be techno trendy. Advantages: Running the default setup can win you many new friends, a la root@localhost. See also: calhaira, hackware, plebian, SuRE. slang for RedHat Linux, or see yerrowdog. tarballlinux |
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| 19:14.09 | LoRez | sypher: try #perl? |
| 19:14.10 | Dragon-Eater | rofl :p |
| 19:14.12 | simonrvn | i know you can lose functionality, but they're gonna move to gamin anyway |
| 19:14.16 | Dragon-Eater | !plebian |
| 19:14.16 | dpkg | If Linux was a religion, and GNU its church, Debian GNU/Linux would be the Amish distribution. Anyone who ever ran apt-get will agree that it is "da bomb". And what's with this woody stuff, were all the good names taken? Bow three times toward Richard Stallman whenever you boot this. See also: hackware, roothat, calhaira, SuRE. |
| 19:14.22 | Rex | perl? |
| 19:14.25 | Dragon-Eater | rofl |
| 19:14.28 | LoRez | Dragon-Eater: play with the bot in private or risk being muted. |
| 19:14.28 | Rex | what is perl? |
| 19:14.30 | valdyn | jasoncohen: i dont know, if fam depended on libfam0c102 that problem would not exist. |
| 19:14.35 | Rex | isnt it php? |
| 19:14.40 | Dragon-Eater | LoRez then id take the risk... |
| 19:14.43 | FieldySnuts | no, google for each |
| 19:14.47 | Dragon-Eater | coz i rarely do these things |
| 19:14.55 | Rex | whats u do? |
| 19:15.02 | Dragon-Eater | and if u want to ignore me under him, go ahead. |
| 19:15.10 | Dragon-Eater | its most likely C++ |
| 19:15.18 | Hohlraum | is there an nvidia deb set in the debian archives for kernel 2.6 ? .. i thought there was when I was following sarge previously. |
| 19:15.20 | jasoncohen | simonrvn, this is odd- i have libgnome2vfs-common installed but i didnt' have libfam0c102 installed which is its dep |
| 19:15.26 | Dragon-Eater | what are you dpkg? |
| 19:15.30 | resiak | !tell Hohlraum -about nvidia howto |
| 19:15.34 | resiak | !what are you? |
| 19:15.34 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 19:15.37 | valdyn | jasoncohen: its an alternative dep |
| 19:15.40 | simonrvn | strange. could be from the pkg-gnome repo at alioth ? |
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| 19:15.48 | simonrvn | aah |
| 19:15.50 | sypher | LoRez, well, thanks anyway... |
| 19:16.04 | jasoncohen | valdyn, i still can't do apt-get build-dep amarok |
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| 19:16.23 | valdyn | jasoncohen: did you "apt-get install fam libfam0c102 ? |
| 19:16.25 | simonrvn | no, gamin conflicts with libfam0c102 too |
| 19:16.29 | Peterken | Hello, I have a dual screen but i have only 1 video card. Xinerama are settings for dualscreen with 2 videocards. Anyone know what my Video card settings has to be for my second screen? |
| 19:16.41 | jasoncohen | valdyn, yes |
| 19:16.46 | simonrvn | Tapt-get install libfam0c102 \n he following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 19:16.46 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.52 | jasoncohen | valdyn, but it used to do that automatically |
| 19:16.54 | Souza10 | a |
| 19:16.56 | simonrvn | oops mispaste |
| 19:17.01 | LoRez | anybody having problems with a debootstrap of sid hanging on configuring base-config? |
| 19:17.02 | simonrvn | cut off the T |
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| 19:17.13 | jair | snowshelbi, what tutorial did you follow? |
| 19:17.21 | jasoncohen | valdyn, i installed fam and the libfam package causing gamin and libgamin to be removed |
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| 19:17.25 | simonrvn | LoRez: sid and deboostrap don't mix very well quite often |
| 19:17.29 | jair | snowshelbi, I forgot where is mine |
| 19:17.31 | simonrvn | deboot* |
| 19:17.31 | jasoncohen | but apt-get -f build-dep amarok still just gives: |
| 19:17.36 | Rex | exploding brain |
| 19:17.38 | jasoncohen | E: Build-dependencies for amarok could not be satisfied. |
| 19:17.39 | valdyn | jasoncohen: works for me: The following packages will be REMOVED: \ gamin gnome gnome-desktop-environment libgamin0 |
| 19:17.44 | Rex | i have to goo for watching tv |
| 19:17.45 | Rex | when i back |
| 19:17.46 | LoRez | simonrvn: that's disappointing |
| 19:17.51 | Rex | send the bot to the privte pleace |
| 19:17.56 | Rex | id like to play with it :D |
| 19:18.16 | simonrvn | LoRez: testing does. i just edit sources.list once base-config is done |
| 19:18.19 | beardy | !away |
| 19:18.19 | dpkg | We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. so please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back, as there are over 800 people here. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. in BX, /set auto_away off, /saveirc, or nick changes are just as annoying |
| 19:18.27 | raf256 | can I move an application window to other display (like from :1 to :0) I have KDE desktop on both |
| 19:18.30 | Rex|[Tv] | hahaahah |
| 19:18.34 | LoRez | simonrvn: yeah, that's what I was just doing |
| 19:18.35 | Dragon-Eater | so? |
| 19:18.44 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: use /msg |
| 19:18.46 | Rex|[Tv] | beardy , no one care if you are away or not |
| 19:18.46 | Rex|[Tv] | ;) |
| 19:18.47 | resiak | raf256: apt-cache show xmove |
| 19:18.48 | simonrvn | um, ban evasion |
| 19:18.55 | Rex|[Tv] | for my self i dont care! :p |
| 19:19.08 | valdyn | jasoncohen: guess you will have to look into the build-depds and search for that exactly cant be satisfied.. |
| 19:19.08 | Rex|[Tv] | !tell Dragon-Eater away |
| 19:19.12 | Dragon-Eater | ahaha |
| 19:19.14 | Dragon-Eater | lol |
| 19:19.18 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
| 19:19.20 | Rex|[Tv] | !tell Dragon-Eater afk |
| 19:19.21 | Rex|[Tv] | !tell Dragon-Eater doe |
| 19:19.22 | Dragon-Eater | grr |
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| 19:19.23 | Rex|[Tv] | !tell Dragon-Eater die |
| 19:19.24 | Dragon-Eater | dont ban me greycat |
| 19:19.27 | resiak | !permasunday |
| 19:19.27 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 19:19.27 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@217.164.63.217] by greycat |
| 19:19.30 | simonrvn | FFS |
| 19:19.31 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 19:19.39 | beardy | Ops, clean up please. |
| 19:19.39 | Dragon-Eater | ... |
| 19:19.43 | simonrvn | thank you greycat |
| 19:19.46 | resiak | greycat++ |
| 19:19.59 | Dragon-Eater | who is 217.164.63.217? |
| 19:20.00 | Dragon-Eater | not me? |
| 19:20.05 | simonrvn | no |
| 19:20.11 | jasoncohen | valdyn, ok, thanks for the help. should i report a bug on fam asking that they add libfamc102 as a dep? |
| 19:20.14 | LoRez | the other jackass :) |
| 19:20.20 | simonrvn | haha |
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| 19:20.22 | asker | #debian Rex|[Tv] H ~Rex@217.164.63.217 :0 Rex |
| 19:20.24 | Dragon-Eater | Rex|[Tv] is ~Rex@217.164.63.217 * Rex |
| 19:20.29 | Dragon-Eater | got him |
| 19:20.30 | Dragon-Eater | :p |
| 19:20.32 | l984 | Can I run the debian install off root.img w/out rebooting? what would execute the image? |
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| 19:20.42 | resiak | !tell l984 -about debootstrap |
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| 19:20.49 | *** part/#debian Rex|[Tv] (~Rex@217.164.63.217) |
| 19:20.49 | valdyn | jasoncohen: i would try that, however the maintainer might blame apt-get. But my point would be that apt-get cannot solve such dependencies. |
| 19:20.54 | snowshelbi | jair, for what? installing ipw2100? |
| 19:20.58 | EmleyMoor | I'm having problems with a local compile of cdrdao - it can erase CD-RWs but if I try to record a CD, it just drops back to the command prompt |
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| 19:21.02 | Dragon-Eater | i think +q = more enoying then +b |
| 19:21.06 | jasoncohen | valdyn, neither can aptitude |
| 19:21.10 | abrotman | heh |
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| 19:21.20 | valdyn | jasoncohen: gets to hard to find solutions by search the whole db or scimming thru the recommends. |
| 19:21.20 | simonrvn | Dragon-Eater: 'enjoyable' |
| 19:21.32 | Dragon-Eater | lol nice symonim |
| 19:21.42 | Dragon-Eater | himself! |
| 19:21.49 | Gnea | hrm |
| 19:21.58 | abrotman | Gnea: i got sunburnt while i was out there! |
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| 19:22.11 | Dragon-Eater | Friends make u poor, girls make u go crazy so ill just be alone ;) |
| 19:22.13 | Gnea | abrotman: ih pa? |
| 19:22.13 | valdyn | jasoncohen: there's no straight way to solve this for a dependency resolution algorithm, as far as i can see |
| 19:22.18 | abrotman | Gnea: WI! |
| 19:22.22 | Gnea | abrotman: u were here? |
| 19:22.25 | Gnea | heh |
| 19:22.31 | Gnea | yeah i can see that happening |
| 19:22.32 | abrotman | Gnea: yes .. i told you i was going to be .. |
| 19:22.48 | abrotman | Gnea: i showed up early for my flight on monday .. laid in the grass .. bad sunburn! |
| 19:22.48 | Gnea | abrotman: short term memory sucks :( |
| 19:22.49 | xirtam | how do i set xfree86 as default xserver (i tried xorg ... from ubunto) ... ? |
| 19:22.56 | Gnea | lol |
| 19:23.01 | Gnea | oops |
| 19:23.09 | beardy | phorce1: silvertape? or glue? |
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| 19:23.11 | greycat | !thursday |
| 19:23.11 | dpkg | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent), or tight-underwear day. |
| 19:23.12 | Gnea | abrotman: that's what SPF is for ;) |
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| 19:23.32 | abrotman | Gnea: i was all over the state .. hurley, minocqua(sp?) .. |
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| 19:23.34 | simonrvn | i need new glasses. keep meaning to go to the optometrist, but i also keep procrastinating |
| 19:23.39 | abrotman | Gnea: it was 11am .. didn't think i needed it |
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| 19:23.45 | phorce1 | abrotman: any ideas for something to get a quick snapshot of bandwidth through an interface without 3 days of man page reading? <grin> I thought ntop was going to pop up a display like top -- not so. |
| 19:23.45 | Gnea | heh |
| 19:23.51 | FieldySnuts | it'd help if it wasn't so damned expensive |
| 19:24.06 | Gnea | abrotman: didn't you know the hole in the ozone grows? |
| 19:24.23 | abrotman | Gnea: i guess |
| 19:24.25 | phorce1 | beardy: thin wire frame -- broke at weld joints. no way to tape or glue |
| 19:24.29 | jasoncohen | valdyn, found the problem |
| 19:24.43 | radical_ | Gnea: but we can compensate by increasing co2 emission |
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| 19:24.44 | abrotman | phorce1: i thought it would |
| 19:24.44 | EmleyMoor | How do I tell what a program is doing if the obvious answer is "not a lot but no error message, just terminating"? |
| 19:24.54 | Gnea | radical_: for now |
| 19:24.54 | jasoncohen | valdyn, libxine-dev requires slang1-dev and slang1-utf8-dev which aren't available |
| 19:25.02 | FieldySnuts | EmleyMoor: strace program |
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| 19:25.30 | FieldySnuts | EmleyMoor: can be confusing but sometimes the last page or so of output gives a hint |
| 19:25.49 | ariston | does anyone know why i'd be getting this when i try to mount something from my nfs server: "unknown nfs mount option: nfsv3" running sarge w/ 2.6.11.8 with nfsv4 and nfsv3 support |
| 19:25.50 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: what, glasses, contacts? |
| 19:25.55 | radical_ | Gnea: after that we need to patch -p1 < ozonelayer-1.2-11.patch |
| 19:25.57 | DimmuR | Hi i have some problem with lirc. I'm trying to compile modules but it cant find /usr/src/linux/2.6.11.12/build/include/linux/version.h file... I checked and i have no directory .../build/,, in my kernel (i have compilled this kernel and use it now) - any hints what to do? |
| 19:25.57 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: yesh |
| 19:26.01 | FieldySnuts | yeah... |
| 19:26.02 | moi | hey folks, i've downloaded the src-pkg of courier-imap, and modified the debian/rules file to my needs (just enabled authvchkpw). now my question: is it possible to teach "apt-get" to download (if an imap update is available) the src-pkg, enable somehow my authvchkpw option, compile and install it? at the moment the package is on hold, but that's not a satisfying solution... |
| 19:26.12 | Gnea | radical_: heh you've got problems |
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| 19:26.29 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: we're partly covered, thankfully |
| 19:26.31 | phorce1 | abrotman: looks like it's designed to be looked at using http from another machine. I've shut down all other machines and have only command line on here. When ntop starts it says "waiting for http connection on port xxxx" |
| 19:26.33 | idimmu | i upgraded my unstable box the other day and now bash seems to be nackered... |
| 19:26.34 | idimmu | idimmu@willow:/$ ls |
| 19:26.34 | idimmu | bincdrometchomelibmediaoptrootsysusrvmlinuz |
| 19:26.34 | idimmu | bootdevfloppyinitrdlost+foundmntprocsbintmpvarwritable |
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| 19:26.43 | FieldySnuts | @abuse idimmu |
| 19:26.46 | idimmu | any idea where my spaces have gone? :( |
| 19:26.51 | idimmu | meh |
| 19:26.58 | FieldySnuts | you used \ instead of / ? |
| 19:27.02 | phorce1 | abrotman: somehow I doubt that's gonna be a lynx friendly display |
| 19:27.03 | simonrvn | up to a certain amount. might even be able to get anti-reflection coating this time. so expensive that stuff |
| 19:27.06 | beardy | phorce1: Are you, or any friend handy with a torch or solder? Maybe you can fix it, but probably better to get them fixed at where you buy your glasses. I've never broke my glasses in two, only had to tighten the screws for the glass occasionally. |
| 19:27.12 | idimmu | no..... |
| 19:27.35 | abrotman | phorce1: probably not .. sorry |
| 19:27.42 | abrotman | phorce1: did you try apt-cache search ? |
| 19:27.42 | greycat | idimmu: try "reset" first. |
| 19:27.52 | greycat | could be a terminal problem |
| 19:28.12 | idimmu | hmm ok |
| 19:28.15 | greycat | failing that, perhaps you have managed to redirect stdout through a FIFO/socket that's being read by tr -d ' ' |
| 19:28.23 | idimmu | nope /o\ |
| 19:28.30 | idimmu | heh |
| 19:28.32 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... I can't see it doing anything obviously wrong - it opens the toc then seems to exit normally - it just doesn't do what it should |
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| 19:30.02 | phorce1 | abrotman: working with it now. lots of search terms that return lots of useless packages (traffic, bandwidth, eth*, etc...) |
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| 19:30.22 | abrotman | phorce1: i'm sure .. 'network usage monitor' ? |
| 19:30.28 | bobwJek | can someone tell me why i cant open my display when running nmapfe as root |
| 19:30.40 | abrotman | bobwJek: who are you logged into X as ? |
| 19:30.42 | idimmu | ah, restarted screen, and problem solved :o |
| 19:30.49 | bobwJek | abrotman, a user |
| 19:30.52 | jasoncohen | valdyn, i got it working |
| 19:30.52 | idimmu | thanks ladies <3 |
| 19:30.55 | abrotman | bobwJek: that'd be why |
| 19:30.55 | greycat | bobwJek: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
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| 19:31.09 | jasoncohen | valdyn, i had to apt-get install slang1-dev which removed aalib1-dev, libsdl1.2-dev and libslang2-dev |
| 19:31.13 | xTina | Anyone with d-i preseeding experience around? |
| 19:31.21 | phorce1 | abrotman: looking at "netdiag" now |
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| 19:31.59 | moi | hey, anyone a solution for my, pkg-src / apt-get upgrade problem? |
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| 19:32.16 | moi | .. i've downloaded the src-pkg of courier-imap, and modified the debian/rules file to my needs (just enabled authvchkpw). now my question: is it possible to teach "apt-get" to download (if an imap update is available) the src-pkg, enable somehow my authvchkpw option, compile and install it? at the moment the package is on hold, but that's not a satisfying solution... |
| 19:32.20 | abrotman | moi: i'm not sure what you're asking is possible .. short of some kind of script you write yourself |
| 19:32.34 | pll | does anyone know what file the getnetgrent is defined in? or what package needs to be installed which includes that lib ? |
| 19:32.38 | moi | abrotman, ah ok, so now ready solution for such a situation |
| 19:32.40 | bobwJek | greycat, abrotman, thank you....however i just ran a new shell and did a su rather than su - and it worked fine |
| 19:32.46 | moi | no* |
| 19:32.54 | abrotman | moi: not that i'm aware of |
| 19:33.02 | moi | abrotman: thanks |
| 19:33.25 | Radiance | any one know what is responsible for creating /var/run/utmp ? (after every boot it is created) |
| 19:33.36 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... someone's found the same problem I'm having and suggests using the previous version |
| 19:33.45 | abrotman | phorce1: nload ? |
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| 19:35.13 | abrotman | phorce1: maybe not |
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| 19:35.13 | simonrvn | moi: scripted, with a local debian repo |
| 19:35.13 | xirtam | how do i set xfree86 as default xserver (i tried xorg ... from ubunto) ... ? |
| 19:35.24 | simonrvn | then it'll show up in the package db (if the local repo is in sources.list) |
| 19:35.32 | FieldySnuts | doubt anyone knows (we don't do those things) |
| 19:35.38 | phorce1 | abrotman: netdiag looks promising. shows load in packets though, not K/sec |
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| 19:35.50 | simonrvn | xirtam: they conflict. install one, the other goes |
| 19:35.53 | moi | simonrvn: sounds quite difficult |
| 19:35.58 | beemer | HI |
| 19:35.59 | simonrvn | moi not really |
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| 19:36.11 | moi | simonrvn: nah, then it's ok, just thought there is a ready-to-go solutionf for this |
| 19:36.26 | simonrvn | moi: might be, i dunno of one |
| 19:36.43 | beemer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.44 | simonrvn | one of the DDs might have something. i need to do something like that here |
| 19:36.44 | moi | simonrvn: thanks anyway :) |
| 19:36.48 | simonrvn | np |
| 19:37.02 | me_here | hello people |
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| 19:37.38 | phorce1 | abrotman: netdiag is a package containing multiple programs. Have to look at README.Debian to see what they are |
| 19:37.43 | xirtam | simonrvn: jup, i did, but now i cannot start xfree86 ... it freezes ... ? |
| 19:37.56 | abrotman | phorce1: you might want to try nload quickly before you get stuck on that one |
| 19:37.59 | simonrvn | read the log |
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| 19:38.08 | abrotman | phorce1: i'm not sure exactly which type of display you're looking for |
| 19:38.34 | xirtam | simonrvn: there is no error in the log ... everything looks fine there ... |
| 19:39.18 | fatt | Hello. I'm installing Debian Sarge 3.1 using the net install floppies and each time I get to the "download installer compontents" it aborts as it's loading libslang2-udeb. Can anyone help me? I need to know why and how I can fix it. |
| 19:39.23 | simonrvn | xirtam: you running from startx or a dm? |
| 19:39.48 | phorce1 | abrotman: adding it now. netdiag has one that shows this machine isn't hammering the net but it shows only a running (additive) total of traffic, not a X/sec breakdown. |
| 19:39.53 | xirtam | startx |
| 19:39.54 | simonrvn | xirtam: see ~/.xession-errors or the dm's log |
| 19:40.10 | abrotman | phorce1: doesn't that activity light also show incoming packets? .. ie .. people pinging you etc |
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| 19:41.37 | FieldySnuts | phorce1: iptraf |
| 19:41.45 | FieldySnuts | you can config it to show it in whatever units you want |
| 19:42.05 | simonrvn | hey cfq is making this box behave better. before a load of 2-3 would make everything stall |
| 19:42.40 | phorce1 | abrotman: that's what I'm looking for as well. Net is broken down wierd inside the house though. 2 live IP's one with this machine, the other on a router with internal 192.168.x.x IPs feeding other machines and VOIP (Vonage) phone (which is on hook and not doing anything) |
| 19:42.46 | simonrvn | append="elevator=cfq" # useful on desktops / workstations |
| 19:43.01 | empty | simonp, what is cfq? |
| 19:43.03 | abrotman | phorce1: oh .. soundsl ike fun |
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| 19:43.13 | fatt | can anyone help me? |
| 19:43.16 | FieldySnuts | and what's an elevator |
| 19:43.17 | simonrvn | Documentation/sched-design.txt |
| 19:43.22 | empty | neither dpkg nor apt-cache are helping me |
| 19:43.23 | FieldySnuts | mkay |
| 19:43.25 | simonrvn | Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
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| 19:43.45 | simonrvn | and other sched-* files if you want |
| 19:44.03 | Spec | Is it possible to download only one file out of any given torrent? |
| 19:44.19 | phorce1 | abrotman: and, as usual this starts when I have 600000000 other things to do. I have to leave in a few to go pick up my Father's ashes from the funeral home and get some more of the stuff packed up at his house. then I'll be away from these machines for the next 3 days. |
| 19:44.23 | xirtam | simonrvn: nothing in there ... ;( |
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| 19:44.30 | xirtam | everything looks fine ... ;( |
| 19:44.31 | empty | simonp, thanks |
| 19:44.39 | empty | simonrvn I meant |
| 19:44.46 | simonrvn | xirtam: :(. hmm, dunno |
| 19:44.51 | Gnea | abrotman: i don't suppose you recall the name of the package with the updated pci ids in it would ya? someone told me the other day and i've spaced since :/ |
| 19:44.55 | abrotman | phorce1: what fun |
| 19:45.02 | Gnea | i tried searching and nothing |
| 19:45.04 | abrotman | Gnea: caphuso/cafuego knows it |
| 19:45.05 | simonrvn | update-pciids |
| 19:45.08 | abrotman | or that |
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| 19:45.24 | simonrvn | in /usr/sbin IIRC |
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| 19:45.50 | simonrvn | sorry, /usr/bin |
| 19:46.23 | abrotman | be nice if the man page said what the primary distribution site was :) |
| 19:46.33 | simonrvn | my old one. 2004-12-06 16:08 pci.ids.old. new one i just fetched: 2005-06-23 19:45 pci.ids |
| 19:46.46 | simonrvn | http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids.bz2 |
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| 19:46.59 | simonrvn | run the thing... |
| 19:46.59 | xirtam | simonrvn: i think i found a problem: i installed xorg from ubuntu and its still there. when i try to remove xorg-common debian wants to remove all x-applications. the dependency is still on xorg ... any ideas? |
| 19:47.02 | abrotman | but the man page doesan't say |
| 19:47.28 | shingouz | do we have a factoid on the pci id's here? might be useful occasionally |
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| 19:47.53 | greycat | !busid |
| 19:47.54 | dpkg | busid is, like, lspci -X might also help |
| 19:47.57 | simonrvn | xirtam: use aptitude. you can choose the debian packages that way, the ubuntu ones are all named ubuntu - or most of them are |
| 19:47.57 | greycat | !bus id |
| 19:47.57 | dpkg | If you're asking about Bus ID, chances are you need to get a kernel that has agpgart support for your video chipset. Usually this means 2.4.x, but 2.2.25 also has some. When dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 asks you for your Bus ID, if you use x86 (meaning a PC), just leave it blank. |
| 19:48.09 | phorce1 | abrotman: thanks for the help. Looks like this machine isn't the problem anyway. Avg of about 10kbits/sec in and <1kbit/sec out through eth0 right now. And since the last "other machine" got shut down on the router I'm seeing the activity light on the cable modem flashing again rather than staying on steady. |
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| 19:48.19 | shingouz | naah..i meant the link simonrvn just posted |
| 19:48.20 | abrotman | !pciids is run update-pciids or see http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:48.21 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 19:48.27 | shingouz | we have :) |
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| 19:48.29 | abrotman | shingouz: good ? :) |
| 19:48.34 | shingouz | very good |
| 19:48.54 | procrastinator | Is it possible to boot a cd from grub? |
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| 19:48.59 | shingouz | just that remembering all those links is pretty much impossible imho. factoids are good |
| 19:49.06 | simonrvn | !pciids is also run update-pciids to update your PCI ID database, if your lspci output shows "unknown device" |
| 19:49.06 | dpkg | simonrvn: okay |
| 19:49.45 | empty | so just iosched=cfq in my menu.1st, cool |
| 19:49.57 | jasoncohen | valdyn, now everything appears to be working. i even reinstalled aalib1-dev and then did apt-get buld-dep amarok. it was able to remove aalib1-dev, gamin and libslang2 correctly and install the needed deps |
| 19:50.03 | intension | shingouz so how do you remember all those factoids then ? |
| 19:50.13 | simonrvn | empty: i put elevator=, that doc might be old |
| 19:50.17 | shingouz | intension: /msg dpkg listkeys foo |
| 19:50.18 | fatt | can anyone help me with my Debian install? I'm having some trouble with my net install |
| 19:50.37 | Dragon-Eater | stabs iIzzyb for 13041722 damage, INSTANT DEATH. and earned 407764852047 golden bars for killing iIzzyb (Taken : 9681750655188 golden bars, kills: 24 , survivers: 0 (last one: Nobody )) |
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| 19:50.53 | simonrvn | W. T. F. |
| 19:51.05 | simonrvn | !plonk |
| 19:51.06 | dpkg | i guess plonk is the sound that a name makes when hitting the ignore list or killfile |
| 19:51.11 | empty | simonrvn, thanks again |
| 19:51.15 | simonrvn | np |
| 19:51.31 | iIzzyb | what's with Dragon-eater? |
| 19:51.52 | simonrvn | he's on bad drugs |
| 19:51.55 | shingouz | maybe a change of diet would help? |
| 19:52.01 | simonrvn | like prozac or something |
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| 19:52.27 | iIzzyb | anyway, as I was saying, I'm having network problems, but I think its really an irq issue |
| 19:52.29 | vezult | simonrvn: sounds more like PCP |
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| 19:52.38 | simonrvn | hahaha |
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| 19:52.53 | simonrvn | hmm, on second thought, i think you're right =) |
| 19:53.01 | drraid | I deleted my /etc/exim4 directory on accident, then tried apt-get removing and re-installing exim4, but it hasnt recreated the config directory(ies) and files.. what should i run? |
| 19:53.14 | simonrvn | nasty shit that pcp |
| 19:53.44 | xirtam | simonrvn: but thats not the problem ... i cannot remove xorg ... because it removes the hole xapplications ... ;( |
| 19:53.47 | drraid | all disassociative anestetics are evil |
| 19:53.52 | iIzzyb | linux seems to detect and load the correct driver, but can't access the network, cant even manually configure it |
| 19:53.56 | fatt | I get to the part in the net install where it's installing the base system and about halfway through, I get an error. So I check the log and it has a ton of errors similar to this: "/dev/root: ioctl BLKBSZGET failed: Invalid argument" and "/dev/loop/0:ioctl BLKGETSIZE64 failed: No such device or address" |
| 19:53.59 | fatt | what does it mean? |
| 19:54.13 | FieldySnuts | don't ask us, we don't support xorg and certainly can't support fixing problems that may cause |
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| 19:54.40 | milo53 | somebody speaks spanish???? |
| 19:54.43 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: do you know where I can read more on schedulers in 2.6? On a beginner level, i'd like to goof around with em |
| 19:54.46 | tcsetattr | drraid, install the deb with dpkg -i --force-confmiss |
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| 19:54.50 | milo53 | I neeed a little help!! |
| 19:54.52 | shingouz | !es milo53 |
| 19:54.52 | jazzmanss | !spanish |
| 19:54.53 | simonrvn | xirtam: yes it is the problem. *i've done it*. i've fixed it. |
| 19:54.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:54.54 | xirtam | how can i call the reconfigure to select the xfree86 as the default x-server ... ? |
| 19:55.02 | drraid | thank you tcsetattr |
| 19:55.06 | PleJ | hello im working with sudo, code in sudoers file is "userblabla ALL=NOPASSWD:/bin/grep -v blabla /path/inputfile > /path/outputfile" and it says that i have no promessions on outputfile. If i skip the "> /path/outputfile" it works buts doesn't save the output. I need some help please |
| 19:55.08 | iIzzyb | on one machine, the nic gets irq0, and on another it gets irq 23 |
| 19:55.12 | simonrvn | xirtam: edit the symlink in /etc/X11 |
| 19:55.13 | FieldySnuts | and how do I tell which scheduler I'm using, dmesg | grep -i sched just shows schedulers being registered nothing more |
| 19:55.16 | iIzzyb | both are completely different nics |
| 19:55.26 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: should say (default) |
| 19:55.34 | xirtam | simonrvn: ok, this points allready to xfree86 |
| 19:55.47 | simonrvn | io scheduler cfq registered (default) |
| 19:55.52 | milo53 | somebody??? spanish speaker.. HELP!!! |
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| 19:55.57 | shingouz | !es |
| 19:55.57 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:55.59 | xirtam | simonrvn: i should remove all ubuntu packages using aptitude? |
| 19:56.00 | FieldySnuts | !stfu milo53 |
| 19:56.01 | dpkg | SHUT THE FUCK UP milo53! |
| 19:56.16 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: nope |
| 19:56.19 | fatt | did anyone see my message? |
| 19:56.35 | milo53 | ok thanks |
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| 19:56.43 | shingouz | fatt: you are online but i guess we are clueless at the moment |
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| 19:57.05 | drraid | tcsetattr, i ran that on the .deb and it still hasnt rebuilt the /etc/exim4 directory with files, am i doing it incorrectly? |
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| 19:57.29 | fatt | shingouz: okay, thanks for the reply... just a little frazzled, 'cause I've never run into anything like this |
| 19:57.37 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: http://pastebin.ca/15674 |
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| 19:58.10 | will_ | Anyone there any good at ethernet config? |
| 19:58.13 | shingouz | fatt: i have a feeling that error is a new one as everyone is quiet |
| 19:58.30 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: cat /proc/cmdline and show me |
| 19:58.35 | iIzzyb | will_, what's the problem? |
| 19:58.44 | shingouz | will_: the correct way here is to state the problem on the channel |
| 19:58.51 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: rw root=/dev/hde6 panic=5 |
| 19:58.56 | fatt | shingouz: meaning it's not a problem that will get fixed today? lol |
| 19:59.13 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: add elevator=the_desired_scheduler |
| 19:59.17 | shingouz | fatt: i think so. maybe i f you grab another version of the installer? |
| 19:59.17 | iIzzyb | has something changed in pc hardware recently that I missed |
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| 19:59.39 | Mondoshawan | hi all |
| 19:59.45 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: which I have no idea on, which is why I was asking about basic docs. the ones in Documentation confuse me. and I still don't know which one i'm using, I have to be using SOME scheduler |
| 19:59.49 | simonrvn | iIzzyb: older x86 machines don't go above 16 |
| 19:59.56 | fatt | shingouz: thought about it, but I'm pretty sure I have the latest version of the floppy images (no cdrom drive) |
| 19:59.59 | Mondoshawan | can me somebody tell how i can recover files they are deletet with rm |
| 20:00.02 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: default is as |
| 20:00.11 | FieldySnuts | Mondoshawan: backups, else give up, and abck up in the future |
| 20:00.12 | simonrvn | unless it was patched |
| 20:00.27 | shingouz | fatt: how about if you try the previous version of the images if you can find them? |
| 20:00.34 | iIzzyb | Mondoshawan, sadly, I don't think you can |
| 20:00.36 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: okay. this is a real SMP system, i wonder what would be best for it, desktop. sometimes used for gaming. |
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| 20:00.45 | FieldySnuts | i'll read up on as |
| 20:00.46 | simonrvn | cfq |
| 20:01.01 | FieldySnuts | didn't see docs on cfq either (grumble) |
| 20:01.05 | Mondoshawan | But why he show me if i type sudo la -la "insgesamt 51" |
| 20:01.06 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 20:01.12 | FieldySnuts | i'll mess with it later (remote currently) |
| 20:01.17 | fatt | shingouz: do you know where I might be able to find them? I think they only have the latest images up on debian.org |
| 20:01.36 | FieldySnuts | !confuse Mondoshawan |
| 20:01.36 | shingouz | fatt: you ask some tough questions today. i have no clue |
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| 20:01.36 | dpkg | No, where is your gerbil today, Mondoshawan? lederhosen of the democracy of tahiti with extra crabpaste |
| 20:01.44 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: I'd read it |
| 20:01.48 | Mondoshawan | :-) |
| 20:02.02 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: hint: the stuff in the kernel docs doesn't help at all for a typical user.. too advanced |
| 20:02.29 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: you might even understand what simonrvn is saying when he geeks out. i would be lost |
| 20:02.32 | simonrvn | ok. i'll dumb it down. also the links i was shown were rather more laypeople level |
| 20:02.38 | Mondoshawan | omg i've lsot my file s :-((((((((((((((( |
| 20:02.44 | stouset | Holy fuck. |
| 20:02.45 | Mondoshawan | thanks you all |
| 20:02.55 | simonrvn | heh *blush* |
| 20:02.56 | abrotman | stouset: that's where jesus came from |
| 20:02.56 | Mondoshawan | bye |
| 20:03.00 | PleJ | hello im working with sudo, code in sudoers file is "userblabla ALL=NOPASSWD:/bin/grep -v blabla /path/inputfile > /path/outputfile" and it says that i have no promessions on outputfile. If i skip the "> /path/outputfile" it works buts doesn't save the output. I need some help please |
| 20:03.01 | FieldySnuts | Mondoshawan: take a lesson from this: have full backups.. yes it might cost you a bit but it's worth it. |
| 20:03.02 | fatt | shingouz: lol, thanks a ton for your help :-) |
| 20:03.03 | simonrvn | abrotman: hehehe |
| 20:03.09 | FieldySnuts | !comfort Mondoshawan |
| 20:03.10 | dpkg | There, there, Mondoshawan. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 20:03.20 | stouset | abrotman: I'm talking about the Supreme Court giving the thumbs-up to cities using eminent domain for purely commercial purposes. |
| 20:03.26 | abrotman | stouset: i saw that |
| 20:03.27 | shingouz | fatt: hmmm.. is this your first debian install? |
| 20:03.37 | stouset | What...the...FUCK |
| 20:03.42 | Spec | eminent domain? |
| 20:03.53 | iIzzyb | so, what are likely causes of problems involving network cards that are detected, and modules loaded, but don't function? |
| 20:03.58 | stouset | Spec: taking property |
| 20:04.18 | caphuso | PleJ: that can't work. the redirection is done by the shell you run that command in, so sudo has no chance of ever affecting it |
| 20:04.23 | Spec | so...cities can take property for purely commercial purposes? |
| 20:04.31 | will_ | izzyb: two ethernet cards, both the same module driver, 2.6 kernel orders the card numbers (eth0, eth1) differently. Not helpful for my dhcp setup... |
| 20:04.31 | abrotman | Spec: it means if the gov't wants it .. they can take it .. no matter what you say .. basically .. it's a <nelson>HAHA</nelson> |
| 20:04.32 | stouset | Yes. |
| 20:04.41 | Spec | yes, i remember now |
| 20:04.42 | fatt | shingouz: yup... I've installed quite a few systems (my latest being Ubuntu), but never felt brave enough to dabble with debian or slackware...the "tough" ones. |
| 20:04.43 | shingouz | iIzzyb: can you tell the modules to use some fixed irq? some modules accept several parameters |
| 20:04.51 | Spec | since when have they been allowed to do that? |
| 20:04.58 | shingouz | fatt: /msg dpkg chroot install |
| 20:04.59 | abrotman | Spec: mostly .. forever |
| 20:05.03 | Spec | that's what I thought |
| 20:05.04 | iIzzyb | will_ sounds like you have the same problem as me |
| 20:05.13 | Spec | it's not anything new, is it? |
| 20:05.19 | shingouz | fatt: not something for the n00bs though, means you have to do it by hand. everything |
| 20:05.31 | iIzzyb | shingouz, not sure, I've tried 4 different nics, all different modules, all same problem |
| 20:05.33 | Spec | And the cities do have to compensate for the property they yoink, don't they? |
| 20:05.37 | shingouz | fatt: that way you would get debian on the system though.... |
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| 20:05.39 | stouset | They have to pay you for it, but that ignores the fact that it may have sentimental value (i.e., grandparents' house), be crucial in your ability to produce (i.e., a farm), or have other value that's not purely market based. |
| 20:05.39 | abrotman | Spec: but now they say it's ok for commercial development .. they used to only do it for public stuff .. like parks/highways etc |
| 20:05.44 | fatt | shingouz: what's that? |
| 20:05.45 | shingouz | iIzzyb: ouch |
| 20:05.45 | iIzzyb | I'm thinking it's a chipset issue not spacific to the nics |
| 20:05.49 | Spec | abrotman: oh, okay |
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| 20:06.04 | iIzzyb | 4 different boxes too, different cpus and everything |
| 20:06.08 | stouset | i.e., now they can take your house away because they want to put a Starbucks somewhere. |
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| 20:06.10 | thraddie | hello |
| 20:06.14 | Spec | yeah, if they take my house to put up a walmart i'm gonna kill 'em all |
| 20:06.25 | Spec | stouset: all my friends work at starbucks :-/ |
| 20:06.33 | Spec | 9 or 10 of 'em |
| 20:06.52 | drraid | dpkg -i --force-confmiss / confnew isnt recreating /etc/exim4 for my deleted directory/files, is there soemthing else i should run? |
| 20:06.53 | stouset | You're going to have to kill them before they try and take over your land. |
| 20:06.54 | thraddie | q: could anybody name a console wget-like tool with multithreading download capability, which support http proxy? aget/manda tools dont |
| 20:07.02 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 20:07.02 | shingouz | fatt: basically you boot the system with any linux, chroot onto the hd and run debootstrap to suck in the rest of the system, make the appropriate files by hand and turn the thing into a bootable system. reboot and start installing the rest of the toys with apt-get or whatever |
| 20:07.13 | drraid | rofl dpkg |
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| 20:07.26 | fatt | yikes |
| 20:07.27 | FieldySnuts | !start a world war |
| 20:07.27 | dpkg | Israel kicks Saudi ass! |
| 20:07.33 | will_ | ilzzb: you think so? I can get it to swap the cards over manually, and so on, but where to specify which alias (eth0, eth1) is which at boot time is my problem... |
| 20:07.46 | FieldySnuts | ifname |
| 20:07.50 | shingouz | fatt: as i said, not for n00bs. doable and educating but not reall easy |
| 20:07.55 | stouset | drraid: use dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:08.12 | FieldySnuts | or ifrename, something like that |
| 20:08.21 | drraid | unfornately, dpkg-reconfigure exim4 and exim4-config havent rebuilt the files either |
| 20:08.34 | iIzzyb | will_ oh, maybe not. so you have net access with the nics? |
| 20:08.48 | drraid | as that tries to write to directories which are none existant |
| 20:08.53 | fatt | shingouz: I'm certainly not a n00b, but I'm not sure if I'm far enough along to install the base system by hand... can I run that command using the floppy install system? |
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| 20:09.25 | iIzzyb | fatt, it's not that hard |
| 20:09.32 | shingouz | fatt: did you check what dpkg has to say about the chroot install? there is a pretty good link in the factoid. the process sounds worse than it really is |
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| 20:09.43 | shingouz | !chroot install |
| 20:09.44 | dpkg | from memory, chroot install is http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/DebianChrootInstall |
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| 20:10.06 | fatt | I may have to try that |
| 20:10.35 | will_ | ilzzyb: yup. They work fine, but with the device names the opposite way around. I cant specify which is which with a kernel option, 'cause they're module based drivers. I'm also thinking about /etc/modules.conf, which has got 'do not edit this file' written all over it. |
| 20:10.40 | iIzzyb | :) that looks like a good one |
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| 20:11.07 | cfan | hi.. i want to shift to debian from fedora core 3.. can people tell me what flavour i should use in debian |
| 20:11.24 | shingouz | fatt: at least you know a hell of a lot more about installing debian after that |
| 20:11.28 | iIzzyb | will_, You just need to make sure the nic you want to be first is loaded before the other |
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| 20:11.52 | shingouz | !tell cfan about d-i |
| 20:11.54 | fatt | I'm gonna get out of here, but I may be back with more questions, depending on how much fun I have with a chroot install! Thanks for your help, everyone... especially you, shingouz |
| 20:11.57 | iIzzyb | will_, but not sure how to do that with the automagical debian config |
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| 20:12.37 | iIzzyb | so, no thoughts on what's causing my nic problems :( |
| 20:12.47 | will_ | ilzzyb: well, whatever really. apparently ordering the module names in /etc/modules would do it, BUT they're both the same NIC card, dammit. |
| 20:13.35 | shingouz | iIzzyb: check your bios for the hell of it, i have had some problems if i tell the bios that i have a pnp-enabled o/s |
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| 20:13.50 | iIzzyb | oh, sorry will_, that complicates things |
| 20:14.07 | iIzzyb | does the module allow you to specify? |
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| 20:14.25 | iIzzyb | will_ if the nics are the same, why the need to swap them? |
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| 20:14.38 | drraid | aaaah what file in exim4 builds the damn directory |
| 20:14.43 | incorrect | is there a way to change the senders email address when using mail or mailx ? |
| 20:14.46 | stouset | drraid: I told you. |
| 20:14.48 | iIzzyb | shingouz, thanks for the tip, I hadn't even thought to check that one |
| 20:14.50 | greycat | incorrect: stop spamming. |
| 20:14.51 | stouset | drraid: dpkg-reconfigure exim4 |
| 20:14.57 | drraid | stouset, i run dpkg-reconfigure exim4 |
| 20:14.58 | incorrect | green_earz, im not |
| 20:15.00 | incorrect | oops |
| 20:15.03 | will_ | ilzzyb: Hang on, I'll read a few more man pages and so forth. I suppose I could swap the cables over, but I wanted to keep both kernels bootable just now. |
| 20:15.09 | stouset | drraid: And that doesn't do it? |
| 20:15.10 | caphuso | drraid: exim4-config |
| 20:15.15 | cfan | speak yar.. some one tell me which flavour i should choose... in debian.. |
| 20:15.15 | stouset | drraid: then apt-get install --reinstall exim4 |
| 20:15.16 | caphuso | drraid: not exim4 |
| 20:15.22 | incorrect | greycat, im not, im annoyed with nagios being send as nagios |
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| 20:15.24 | stouset | cfan: Cherry. |
| 20:15.31 | drraid | exim4-config tells me the files and directories do not exist to modify |
| 20:15.32 | shingouz | iIzzyb: hope it works |
| 20:15.38 | drraid | when i create them, it says templates are missing |
| 20:15.42 | cocozz | Hi , I just installed nfs but when trying to mount a server directory I get : mount: RPC: Unregistered softwre |
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| 20:16.17 | iIzzyb | doh! no ping available in the netinstall shell? |
| 20:16.18 | jasoncohen | valdyn, this is strange- libgamin0 replaces AND provides libfam0c102 |
| 20:16.19 | Le_Vert | bonsoir tout le monde |
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| 20:16.26 | greycat | !fr |
| 20:16.26 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 20:17.09 | Le_Vert | sorry dpkg bot ^^ |
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| 20:17.31 | Sneg | does linux reserve part of my drive? when i did a df -h, it says that my size is 111GB, using 104GB, and 1.1GB free, with the usage percentage being 100%. |
| 20:17.47 | greycat | Sneg: yes, 5% is reserved for root (man tune2fs) |
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| 20:19.11 | drraid | --reinstall isnt rebuilding, as well as dpkg-reconfiguring it |
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| 20:20.24 | jasoncohen | drraid, --reinstall doesn't rebuild? it just installs the package again |
| 20:20.25 | jair | guys I am trying to get the kernel headers to install correcly my ipw2100 and I do not find kernel headers for the kernel testing 2.6.11.1??? what i should do? |
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| 20:20.31 | smagy2 | hello folks can someone please tell me what the following errors mean http://rafb.net/paste/results/Vcta9984.html (note machine is running suse, i didn't get help from suse, hence back to ppl i trust in debian) |
| 20:20.49 | Sneg | greycat, thanks, i have it set to 1 percent now. would it do any harm to put it to 0? |
| 20:20.51 | vezult | !they dont know |
| 20:20.58 | jasoncohen | drraid, the purpose of --reinstall is so that if you deleted some necessary files for an app you can simply reinstall it without first removing it |
| 20:21.02 | jair | this is where I get the kernel image from : http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/ |
| 20:21.03 | greycat | Sneg: depends on how you use the FS |
| 20:21.06 | jasoncohen | it'll just overwrite the current files |
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| 20:21.14 | drraid | It doesnt install the config directory or files |
| 20:21.28 | Sneg | greycat, it has my os running off of it, what would happen if it fills up all the way? |
| 20:21.34 | drraid | Nor does the dpkg-reconfigure. Am i doing it wrong> |
| 20:21.37 | jair | and this is the error I am getting when I run make make install: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Kl3pUR84.html |
| 20:21.46 | greycat | you have One Gigantic Root File System? In that case, you definitely want minfree to be 5%. |
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| 20:22.54 | jasoncohen | jair, don't you mean make && make install? |
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| 20:23.36 | jasoncohen | drraid, you want to apt-get install --reinstall exim4-config |
| 20:23.38 | Sneg | greycat, would 1.1GB reserved be enough for root? |
| 20:23.42 | doug | if i install apache2 with apt and then php4 next, will apache2 become aware of php4's presence or do i need to do some conf editing or perhaps just apt reinstall apache now that php is on? |
| 20:24.08 | drraid | BWAAAH |
| 20:24.26 | jasoncohen | drraid, exim4 is just a metapackage |
| 20:24.43 | jasoncohen | drraid, next time do dpkg -L package |
| 20:24.52 | jasoncohen | that'll show you what files the package has installed |
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| 20:25.24 | jasoncohen | drraid, better yet you could have done apt-file search nameofmissingfile |
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| 20:25.48 | will_ | doug: I think php install will change the apache config. If not, its only a few lines to change. |
| 20:25.49 | drraid | unfortunately i get /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: exim4-config is broken or not fully installed |
| 20:25.53 | asuffield | greycat: depends how gigantic it is. 5% of a 250Gb filesystem is too much |
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| 20:26.03 | jasoncohen | drraid, after reinstalling? |
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| 20:26.17 | drraid | yes |
| 20:26.23 | drraid | im doing it again though |
| 20:26.25 | greycat | asuffield: a 250 GB root file system is too much |
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| 20:26.33 | bourneagain | Is there anyway to overclock a network card. I want to get 1.3 out of a 1 G card. |
| 20:26.33 | jasoncohen | drraid, hmm, dpkg -l exim4-config |
| 20:26.42 | greycat | !pal bourneagain |
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| 20:26.57 | drraid | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.01 | drraid | is whats listed |
| 20:27.10 | doug | Wait instead of just doing apt on php4, should i do it on the libapache php4 thing too? |
| 20:27.18 | jair | jasoncohen, correct you know what I am talking about |
| 20:27.26 | jasoncohen | drraid, apt-get -f install |
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| 20:27.37 | asuffield | greycat: One Gigantic Root File System on any modern hardware will *always* be too much. the smallest hard drive you can sanely get nowadays is 80Gb |
| 20:27.43 | paulswm | bourneagain: not something we'd know about here |
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| 20:27.56 | cfan | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.04 | cfan | some one speak.. |
| 20:28.07 | jair | jasoncohen, the thing is that i can not find the kernel-headers for this kernel on the main ftp place of debian testing. |
| 20:28.08 | paulswm | !what's really annoying |
| 20:28.08 | dpkg | repeating, or me telling you what's really annoying |
| 20:28.16 | FarrisG | I have a very dumb question I'm pretty sure I know the answer to: Is there any way to create a single, logical volume that spans two external disks? |
| 20:28.16 | greycat | "flavour"? |
| 20:28.18 | drraid | error403: Unsplit config selected and /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template missing ... exiting |
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| 20:28.24 | error403 | .... |
| 20:28.25 | drraid | is the error now when i apt-get -f install |
| 20:28.25 | greycat | cfan: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 20:28.28 | asuffield | like flavoured condoms |
| 20:28.33 | error403 | drraid, ??? |
| 20:28.34 | greycat | cfan: or if that's too complicated, /msg dpkg install debian |
| 20:28.39 | jasoncohen | jair, what kernel? |
| 20:28.45 | Spec | I'd have to say go with strawberry~debian |
| 20:28.47 | Spec | ^.~ |
| 20:28.50 | drraid | No no no error403, im sorry, i was posting my error |
| 20:28.51 | greycat | FarrisG: yes |
| 20:28.58 | error403 | hah |
| 20:28.58 | bourneagain | greycat: It is pretty funny I admit. However what I am wondering is why they limited 1G to 1G, the number is just too round. |
| 20:29.02 | drraid | irony serves me nightmares when my errors match the nics of people im talking too |
| 20:29.03 | will_ | doug: oh its a while back I tried this, but I think it was pretty straightforward. If you want php as an apache module, use the libapache thing. If you want it as an executable separate cgi process, use the php package. The php manual talks about the difference at some length... |
| 20:29.04 | jasoncohen | drraid, weird- exim4.conf.template is part of exim4-config. it should have been installed |
| 20:29.06 | error403 | error403 can be an annoying name sometimes |
| 20:29.09 | error403 | >.< |
| 20:29.16 | paulswm | I think cherry glow-in-the-dark debian. |
| 20:29.20 | jasoncohen | drraid, apt-get remove --purage exim4-config |
| 20:29.23 | jasoncohen | drraid, apt-get install exim4-config |
| 20:29.31 | drraid | ok |
| 20:29.32 | FarrisG | greycat: Does it require any special tools? |
| 20:29.34 | jasoncohen | drraid, make the first line apt-get remove --purge exim4-config |
| 20:30.08 | bourneagain | greycat: I did see special ethernet drivers that are low latency that speed things up. That was interesting. To communicate between cluster members. I admit it is a funny question. And you HAVE to know I was kidding ;) |
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| 20:30.22 | doug | will: on the php4 apt install, it threw in the dependencies which included the lib apaches and php4-common... |
| 20:30.48 | jair | jasoncohen, I am looking for the image of this kernel 2.6.11-1-686 |
| 20:30.53 | Althaser | how can i create ATM-ethernet bridge in speedtouch ? please |
| 20:30.58 | jair | jasoncohen, sorry the headers |
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| 20:31.20 | mxn | Hello. |
| 20:31.30 | jair | jasoncohen, so i went to the web site of kernel.org and check if I can see the headers there??? |
| 20:31.33 | greycat | FarrisG: /msg dpkg lvm |
| 20:31.42 | FarrisG | greycat: danke |
| 20:32.00 | jasoncohen | jair, apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.11.-1-686 |
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| 20:32.11 | paulswm | jair: apt-cache search kernel-headers-2.6.11 |
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| 20:32.25 | jasoncohen | jair, have you done an apt-get update ? |
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| 20:33.19 | will_ | doug: I think you should be ok then. Couldn't say much more just now, its a while since I installed it, and my debian box is offline just now. IIRC, the install was pretty straightforward... |
| 20:33.37 | mxn | Hi. I'm trying to secure my sshd up. At the moment, I use my system username/password to logon. Should I change this to a passphrase method? |
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| 20:34.02 | jair | jasoncohen, I would like that be easy as you are tyoing it, remmeber I am running sarge "stable" and I install this kernel that is "testing" so I just download the " kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686_2.6.11-5_i386.deb " and run dpkg -i so i did not need the headers for that, but now to build or compile my wireless I need it. |
| 20:34.02 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: http://simonraven.nuit.ca/blog/ |
| 20:34.36 | jasoncohen | jair, oh, i forgot you were on sarge |
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| 20:35.17 | jasoncohen | jair, you will either need to download the kernel-headers for 2.6.11-1-686 or you can add a testing source and make an /etc/apt/apt.conf to specify sarge as the default version |
| 20:35.34 | jasoncohen | jair, that way you can install it with apt-get -t testing kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686 |
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| 20:36.06 | haehae | is there a script to generate the /dev/ devices with mknod ? .. |
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| 20:36.13 | jasoncohen | jair, if you're going to use a kernel from testing you want a testing source |
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| 20:36.15 | greycat | haehae: man MAKEDEV |
| 20:36.19 | jasoncohen | jair, that way you can get updates to the kernel |
| 20:36.22 | jasoncohen | for security |
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| 20:37.02 | jair | jasoncohen, I want to avoid install other testing packages, all I want is the headers that is it, I do not need other testing packages so i don't really want to add the testing source list to the apt directory. |
| 20:37.07 | zetor | jair: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 20:37.28 | jasoncohen | zetor, his problem is he wants a testing kernel on sarge |
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| 20:37.46 | jasoncohen | jair, if you add a testing source and set your default distro to sarge ,you'll only get sarge packages unless you manually specify otherwise |
| 20:38.01 | jasoncohen | jair, either use 2.6.8 from sarge or add a testing source so you can get updates to 2.6.11 |
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| 20:38.12 | jasoncohen | jair, why do you need 2.6.11 anyways? |
| 20:38.19 | zetor | jasoncohen: ok...why..?? |
| 20:38.30 | jair | please guys check this directory I can not find the headers here but i download the kernel image I am using right now: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686_2.6.11-5_i386.deb |
| 20:38.43 | jasoncohen | zetor, why what? |
| 20:38.51 | MasterYoda | my rss-glx screensavers are not listed by xscreensaver, any ideas? |
| 20:39.35 | jasoncohen | jair, you can download it here - http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686 |
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| 20:39.40 | jair | jasoncohen, because I was having problems turning off my laptop with kernel 2.6.8-2 it do not work well with my ibm r51 the kernel 2.6.11 it turn off everthing good. |
| 20:39.41 | liable | jair: why dont you just download the headers package and install it with dpkg? |
| 20:39.41 | zetor | jansoncohen: testing kernel on sarge....? |
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| 20:40.05 | jasoncohen | jair, but it's easier/better to use a testing source so you can patch the kernel |
| 20:40.16 | jair | jasoncohen, lucky ;) I could not fing it though thanks I will bookmark that page... :) |
| 20:41.14 | jair | jasoncohen, how could I do that ??? I have als my apt repositories for sarge right I have to add one for testing and how I tell apt-get just update ot download the headers? |
| 20:41.28 | jasoncohen | easy |
| 20:41.32 | jair | liable, if you scroll you will see that that is what i use. |
| 20:41.34 | simonrvn | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00016.html |
| 20:42.01 | jasoncohen | jair, first, type this as root "cho 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf" |
| 20:42.07 | jasoncohen | jair, first, type this as root "echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf" |
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| 20:42.55 | jasoncohen | jair, then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and add a testing entry, then apt-get update |
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| 20:43.47 | jasoncohen | jair, i.e. deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 20:44.16 | jasoncohen | jair, you might also want to add a deb-src entry so you can recompile the packages on your system |
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| 20:44.39 | jasoncohen | jair, then apt-get update ; apt-get -t testing kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-686 |
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| 20:46.49 | will_ | doug: any luck? |
| 20:46.57 | jair | jasoncohen, cool my friend you rocks |
| 20:47.09 | jair | jasoncohen, I installed the headers, ;) |
| 20:47.15 | simonrvn | @ops stupid spammy dufus * valys http://bride.ru?brid=38888 -->> very funny :))))))))) |
| 20:47.16 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: stupid spammy dufus * valys http://bride.ru?brid=38888 -->> very funny :))))))))) |
| 20:47.25 | jasoncohen | jair, now, just to make sure do an apt-get upgrade - you should see 0 new packages |
| 20:47.28 | jair | jasoncohen, have you ever configure the wireless ipw2100? |
| 20:47.31 | caphuso | simonrvn: he's already gone |
| 20:47.32 | jasoncohen | jair, no, sorry |
| 20:47.33 | simonrvn | woops, sorrry for reposting that URI |
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| 20:48.21 | xirtam | i get an error from xfree86: can't find file "pc/en" for symbols include ... how do i solve this situation ... ? |
| 20:48.29 | simonrvn | caphuso: yeh yeh, whateva ;p *grin* |
| 20:49.02 | xirtam | simonrvn: i come closer ;)) |
| 20:49.10 | jasoncohen | jair, when you do an apt-get upgrade, you'll get security updates for sarge + updates on your 2.6.11 kernel-image and header packages |
| 20:49.12 | idnar | simonrvn: cool, I always wanted a Russian bride |
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| 20:49.34 | jair | jasoncohen, it looks like I need also the modules?? /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686 |
| 20:49.49 | jair | jasoncohen, that did not come with the package kernel-headers? |
| 20:49.50 | simonrvn | idnar: well gol-damn, here's your chance ;P |
| 20:50.06 | bernouli | hello, i want to install a program which need libpython2.3.so.1.0, but in my system is libpython2.4.so.1.0 installed, how can i tell him to use the latest one? |
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| 20:50.54 | sobersabre | what is a listbox email ? |
| 20:51.02 | rpozo | has anyone else experienced the sarge installer freezing at configure the network? Everything work perfectly up till then and then the keyboard freezes and I can't continue |
| 20:51.11 | jasoncohen | jair, that's part of kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 |
| 20:51.22 | jasoncohen | jair, dpkg -L kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 |
| 20:51.42 | sobersabre | rpozo, it can be because of interrupt problems, and is it usb keyboard ? |
| 20:51.44 | jasoncohen | jair, i thought you already installed the kernel-image package? |
| 20:52.14 | bernouli | i tried to make a symbolic link, but it wont work |
| 20:52.16 | rpozo | and an even better question, is there a sarge installer ISO with a later kernel version than what is on the debian site? |
| 20:52.27 | rpozo | perhaps 2.6.11 or 2.6.12? |
| 20:52.38 | jasoncohen | rpozo, no- sarge has 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 |
| 20:52.39 | jair | jasoncohen, yes |
| 20:52.45 | jasoncohen | rpozo, etch has 2.6.11 |
| 20:52.54 | sobersabre | guys... what is a listbox email address .. ? |
| 20:53.07 | sobersabre | 1st time i hear something like it... |
| 20:53.07 | rpozo | jasoncohen: yes I know, but there are usually other ISO images floating around with later kernel versions on them |
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| 20:53.40 | jasoncohen | you mean unofficial images? that's probably not a great idea |
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| 20:54.14 | jair | jasoncohen, ok |
| 20:54.19 | jasoncohen | rpozo, 2.6.11 wont' be entering sarge, so if you had a 2.6.11 kernel you would need a testing source for updates |
| 20:54.22 | jair | thank you for your help I will be baclk |
| 20:54.24 | mick_home | hi everyone |
| 20:54.29 | jair | I will try something here |
| 20:54.31 | jair | ;) |
| 20:54.48 | jim | rpozo: there is an experimental installer with 2.6.11 |
| 20:55.00 | jasoncohen | then you're not installing sarge |
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| 20:55.17 | mick_home | i hope it is ok to ask a Windows question here (I'm rather new to being a Windows admin) - I'm more of a Linux and *BSD guy myself |
| 20:55.17 | thorie | how do i recover my root password? |
| 20:55.30 | jim | but maybe you're installing at all :) |
| 20:55.37 | mick_home | i was wondering, is Windows a true mutiuser system (from the kernel design) |
| 20:56.07 | jasoncohen | jim, if you really need 2.6.11, it makes more sense to install sarge and then upgrade to 2.6.11 |
| 20:56.12 | zetor | mick_home: nope! |
| 20:56.13 | mick_home | or will one user be able to crash their login session (and crash someone else's) |
| 20:56.22 | jasoncohen | sorry, not upgrade- install 2.6.11 as a new kernel |
| 20:56.29 | mick_home | zetor: ah shit |
| 20:56.32 | thorie | hello... i forgot my root password... what should I do? |
| 20:56.32 | mick_home | thanks |
| 20:56.37 | jim | mick_home: you were right the first time... |
| 20:56.41 | mick_home | and is there something like ulimit on Windows? |
| 20:56.41 | jdhutchin1 | thorie, use a rescue cd |
| 20:56.44 | shingouz | thorie: relax is the first thing |
| 20:56.50 | cfan | http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/ ... guys please tell me which iso i am suppose to download.. why are there so many iso files |
| 20:56.51 | zetor | nick_home:sorry! |
| 20:56.52 | thorie | jdhutchin1: i can't reboot the machine, it's a production server |
| 20:56.55 | shingouz | !tell thorie about i lost root's password |
| 20:57.14 | jim | jasoncohen: what if they can't install at all unless it is with a newer kernel? |
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| 20:57.19 | shingouz | thorie: you cannot reboot the thing and it is a live server? you are screwed |
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| 20:57.28 | thorie | ok |
| 20:57.32 | mick_home | so i can at least narrow the damage that a rogue app can do |
| 20:57.34 | thorie | so how can I get my root password? |
| 20:57.37 | beardy | thorie: Do you remember if it was a good or bad (strong or weak) password? |
| 20:57.51 | thorie | beardy: it was a weak password... like pass1 or pass123 |
| 20:57.53 | jim | mick_home: yes, you can. Install debian. |
| 20:57.54 | beardy | thorie: Start cracking I guess.. |
| 20:58.00 | mick_home | i hate the beaurocracy of most work environments |
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| 20:58.06 | mick_home | jim: if i could, i would |
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| 20:58.25 | jasoncohen | jim, i guess in that case you have to use an unofficial iso or etch |
| 20:58.41 | cfan | http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/ ... guys please tell me which iso i am suppose to download.. why are there so many iso files |
| 20:59.09 | shingouz | thorie: a production server with a weka root p/w... jfc.. how the hell did you get root privs on the damn thing in the first place |
| 20:59.09 | mick_home | jim: some people are forced to admin windows boxen |
| 20:59.30 | mick_home | lol |
| 20:59.31 | jim | mick_home: people here won't even support linux dists based on debian... |
| 20:59.31 | thorie | ok |
| 20:59.33 | zetor | nick_home: if in Windows..the best thing you can do is SHUT DOWN activeX!!! |
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| 20:59.45 | beardy | thorie: And when/if you find it, choose a stronger password, and make sure you remember it. |
| 20:59.47 | thorie | i guess i have to shutdown |
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| 20:59.52 | mick_home | zetor: it is relatively secure |
| 21:00.04 | zetor | it is NOT!!! |
| 21:00.11 | mick_home | i added a few things the xpy |
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| 21:00.17 | mick_home | i said relatively |
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| 21:00.25 | jdhutchin1 | mick_home, relative to what? |
| 21:00.37 | mick_home | i used xpy to secure most things and i have some paranoid firewall rules |
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| 21:00.53 | mick_home | jdhutchin1: relative to me not doing anything |
| 21:00.56 | thorie | how do i make a debian rescue CD? |
| 21:00.56 | jim | mick_home: probably it would be better for you to contact microsoft support... microsoft is -not- supported here |
| 21:01.21 | mick_home | and then i ask, "is there an equivalent to ulimit" |
| 21:01.37 | mick_home | its a question that only a linux or bsd user would know |
| 21:01.42 | jim | why are you still discussing windows? |
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| 21:02.09 | beardy | thorie: Use SystemRescueCD http://sysresccd.org (Gentoo-based) Or some knoppix variant. tomsrtbt if all you got is floppy. |
| 21:02.26 | thorie | will tomsrtbt be enough to get my root password? |
| 21:02.32 | jim | if someone wants to help you that's here, fine, but take it to /msg or to another channel |
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| 21:02.36 | zetor | nick_home: this is a Debian channel... |
| 21:02.43 | beardy | thorie: Not get, but to set a new one, yes. |
| 21:03.22 | beardy | thorie: Read the factoid dpkg told you. |
| 21:03.22 | jasoncohen | mick_home, there's #linux for generic linux questions but you're question is directed at windows so they might not answer there either |
| 21:04.06 | thorie | i never got a factoid |
| 21:04.08 | thorie | from dpkg |
| 21:04.35 | incorrect | i can't see in sendmail how to set a subject |
| 21:05.13 | tcsetattr | sendmail is an MTA, not a message editor |
| 21:05.23 | caphuso | incorrect: you write "Subject: foo" |
| 21:05.27 | caphuso | duh |
| 21:05.42 | Ox_King | heh |
| 21:06.09 | junix|work | is 2.6.12.1 going into unstable anytime soon? |
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| 21:06.42 | shingouz | !tell i lost root's password |
| 21:06.42 | thorie | what do i do after i boot the rescue floppy?? |
| 21:06.49 | shingouz | thorie: ^^^ |
| 21:06.54 | thorie | !tell i lost root's password |
| 21:06.59 | asker | :) |
| 21:07.00 | shingouz | !i lost root's password |
| 21:07.05 | thorie | 12:33 <dpkg> No, thorie, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 21:07.12 | asker | !forgot password |
| 21:07.12 | caphuso | thorie: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
| 21:07.12 | shingouz | bah |
| 21:07.14 | asker | :P |
| 21:07.19 | thorie | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.23 | asker | haha |
| 21:07.52 | shingouz | grrrrr.... |
| 21:08.02 | shingouz | <mummbbbblegruummble> |
| 21:08.31 | Virtual | What can I do if I get : Fatal screen error: No screens found ? |
| 21:08.48 | thorie | this floppy disk thing is confusing |
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| 21:08.57 | carcrashnights | Virtual: Reconfigure X. |
| 21:09.04 | thorie | is there a tiny debian .iso i can use? |
| 21:09.08 | Phated | streuner: Yes? |
| 21:09.14 | streuner | Virtual: what videocard do you have? |
| 21:09.20 | shingouz | !tell Virtual about no screens found |
| 21:09.24 | shingouz | !tell Virtual about drxx |
| 21:09.27 | Virtual | streuner ati radeon 9250 |
| 21:09.34 | streuner | Phated: shingouz asked serveral hours ago, what timezone is thailand... |
| 21:09.41 | shingouz | +7 |
| 21:09.46 | Phated | Eh, UTF+7? |
| 21:09.53 | caphuso | UTC |
| 21:09.57 | shingouz | i already googled. thanks Phated in anyvcase :) |
| 21:09.58 | streuner | Virtual: /msg dpkg ati |
| 21:10.08 | Phated | shingouz: No worries. |
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| 21:10.26 | Phated | caphuso: THou shalt not correct the typos of one newly awake. |
| 21:10.37 | caphuso | Phated: Thou |
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| 21:10.46 | Ox_King | heh |
| 21:10.46 | caphuso | SCNR :) |
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| 21:10.49 | streuner | Phated: morning :-) |
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| 21:10.54 | Phated | caphuso: *bite* |
| 21:10.57 | Phated | streuner: Morning. |
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| 21:11.36 | beardy | thorie: SystemRescueCD is about 100MB. knoppix:es are up to a full cd. Google for other livecds if you want. |
| 21:11.41 | mikaEL` | how can i mount a USB drive in debian sarge ?? |
| 21:11.47 | hcy | hey guys... i did an apt-get upgrade and it gives me a list of a few packages that have open bugs... I want to install all the rest but skip those with the bugs, but if I say 'n' for 'no' it doesn't install any of them. How do I do it? |
| 21:11.53 | caphuso | Phated: a bit out of me before breakfast? your stomach won't take that... |
| 21:12.00 | hcy | mikaEL`: what's the problem? |
| 21:12.04 | Phated | caphuso: It IS breakfast! |
| 21:12.09 | kartoo | hi |
| 21:12.10 | LoL` | I have 4 IP's with my Server but it only uses one of them when connecting to IRC. Can I use another one to connect to IRC > |
| 21:12.19 | streuner | mikaEL`: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /some_folder |
| 21:12.21 | mikaEL` | I wanna transfer some files on a flash pen drive |
| 21:12.24 | shingouz | hcy: /msg dpkg hold |
| 21:12.29 | beardy | thorie: But whats confusing about tomsrtbt? |
| 21:12.39 | dbeal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:12.43 | empty | beardy, remember your audience... |
| 21:13.06 | dbeal | yeah, /dev/sd[abc][123] /mnt |
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| 21:13.22 | hcy | shingouz: thanks |
| 21:13.34 | thorie | beardy: i downloaded the dos package, and when i ran install, it said something about not having enough memory... which is insane because i have over 2 gigs of ram |
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| 21:13.40 | WillR | HELP ! my mail server wont boot up.. all i did was shut it down.. now i keep getting READ ONLY errors on boot then it just hangs at READ ONLY |
| 21:13.43 | beardy | empty: Yeah, but if he is running a "production server" and probably is paid for it, I expect some knowledge. |
| 21:13.53 | WillR | i cant get a prompt at all |
| 21:14.06 | caphuso | beardy: you're too optimistic for this world |
| 21:14.07 | CdW | I have 4 IP's with my Server but it only uses one of them when connecting to IRC. Can I use another one to connect to IRC ? |
| 21:14.22 | caphuso | CdW: depends on your client |
| 21:14.27 | beardy | caphuso: Yes, sometimes I am.. |
| 21:14.27 | empty | beardy, you expect- I suspect by now his employers expect no such lofty thing |
| 21:14.36 | paulswm | beardy: You display a touching, if misplaced, faith in human nature :P |
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| 21:15.08 | CdW | caphuso: I can use any one of irssi, scrollz or BitchX |
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| 21:15.59 | empty | WillR probably filesystem errors- boot to single user mode and try to fsck it |
| 21:16.17 | shingouz | brb |
| 21:16.24 | TCW | n8 |
| 21:16.26 | beardy | empty: Please define the audience, I want to hear it. |
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| 21:16.30 | caphuso | CdW: with irssi you can use the -h command line option, the -host option of connect/server/... or "/set hostname" |
| 21:16.34 | caphuso | dunno about the other two |
| 21:16.44 | ryoohki | what is the debian equivelent of chkconfig? |
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| 21:17.05 | caphuso | ryoohki: what is chkconfig? |
| 21:17.07 | beardy | thorie: Download a knoppix .iso. Burn that onto a cd. |
| 21:17.10 | empty | beardy, a "production" "server" "admin" that uses a weak root PW and does not know how to recover it |
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| 21:17.21 | thorie | beardy: im halfway done downloading the minimal 100 MB debian cd |
| 21:17.26 | ryoohki | caphuso: redhat edit rc?.d files |
| 21:17.36 | beardy | thorie: Use that then. |
| 21:17.38 | ryoohki | caphuso: chkconfig samba on |
| 21:17.41 | caphuso | ryoohki: rm/ln or update-rc.d or rcconf or ... |
| 21:17.48 | empty | beardy, ...then announces on IRC he has a weak root password and can't even be root to repel attackers, and I am betting has not disabled root logins via ssh |
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| 21:18.02 | kie27 | greetings all, is this the right place to ask a bind/dns question? (i am running debian stable) |
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| 21:18.22 | mxn | Hi. I'm trying to secure my sshd. At the moment, I use my system username/password to auth. Should I change this to a passphrase method? |
| 21:18.30 | ryoohki | ok: update-rc.d |
| 21:18.32 | empty | !ask |
| 21:18.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic (sicco)! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 21:18.38 | mikaEL` | I have mounted my flash drive (mount -t vfat /dev/da1) and I copied my files , after I have umounted (umount /dev/sda1) .. Is safe to remove my flash pen NOW ?? |
| 21:18.39 | ryoohki | much thanks |
| 21:18.47 | caphuso | mikaEL`: yes |
| 21:19.02 | mikaEL` | but my flash still flashes in red .. |
| 21:19.14 | empty | mxn, first step is to remove roots login capability over SSH |
| 21:19.22 | mxn | empty: Yep, done that. |
| 21:19.24 | beardy | empty: Yeah.. thanks. |
| 21:19.52 | jasoncohen | anyone know what's going on with the debian security team? they haven't released a security update in nearly 3 weeks and there are a number of vulnerable packages in sarge. |
| 21:19.54 | WillR | is there a startup or receovery cd of some kind for debian?? i only have install cd and its not helping me |
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| 21:20.25 | empty | WillR, you can boot to recover CD then use ctrl-alt-f2 to get a shell |
| 21:20.34 | empty | WillR, err the install cd I mean |
| 21:20.51 | Ick | is converting from sarge to etch as simple as replacing "sarge" wiht "etch" it /etc/apt/sources.list and running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? |
| 21:20.55 | kie27 | ok, have bind9 and apache running on debian stable, i recently bought the domain free-barcode.org, i have added this entry to the zones in /etc/bind/named.conf and added entries in apache, however it is not resolving properly (my other domains such as hotsite.to) are resolving ok. |
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| 21:21.27 | WillR | (empty): the install cd has option to get a shell but doesnt let me do nething |
| 21:21.29 | Ick | in* /etc/ |
| 21:21.32 | ttick | I'm trying to get a machine setup with fluxbox as the wm, and nautilus as the filebrowser (because it works with gnome-volume-manager). and so far so good, except nautilus file icons are all blank paper, instead of icons associated with filetypes. Which package do I need to install to get the icons in nautilus? |
| 21:21.39 | jasoncohen | empty, if you're using public key encryption with encrypted private keys, is it still insecure to allow root login? |
| 21:21.42 | ubuh-huntuh | Is there any Linux file system that allows compression? I'd like to create an compressed partition and share it with NFS for backups over the network (dump, ufsdump). |
| 21:21.45 | WillR | something is wrong with my boot up.. keeps giving me readonly FS errors and hangs |
| 21:22.22 | sobersabre | is anybody here familiar with EFI ? |
| 21:22.27 | ttick | WillR: hmm, maybe your FS is a type that isn't compiled into the kernel natively? |
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| 21:22.40 | Ick | is converting from sarge to etch as simple as replacing "sarge" wiht "etch" in /etc/apt/sources.list and running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? |
| 21:22.53 | vezult | Ick: yes |
| 21:22.54 | WillR | (ttick): been working fine for 3 weeks... just rebooted and now this.... (was rebooted before and came up fine too) |
| 21:23.14 | vezult | Ick: you may want: apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 21:23.26 | jasoncohen | Ick, yes it is |
| 21:23.30 | ttick | WillR: okay, so you're saying nothing changed between reboots and all of a sudden you can't get your rootfs to come up? |
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| 21:23.45 | WillR | right |
| 21:23.47 | jasoncohen | Ick, if you do an apt-get upgrade you'll probably see a number of packages held back. apt-get dist-upgrade will fix that |
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| 21:24.03 | WillR | starts all the rgular services in the background.... |
| 21:24.05 | *** part/#debian razzmatazz (Razzmatazz@213.197.163.38) |
| 21:24.11 | WillR | but give s a ton of Readonly errors inbetween |
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| 21:24.37 | snowy` | I just would like to say thanks to all of you guys! I have finally got wireless running! You guys helped me from step 0 :D thanks a lot! |
| 21:24.40 | WillR | then hangs with "READ ONLY" and cant do nething..... |
| 21:24.48 | ttick | WillR: sorry, can't help you. maybe if you post the errors on nopaste, someone will take a look. |
| 21:25.02 | gvandora | I'm having problems getting bootlogd to work. Anyone know how to fix the ioctl (/dev/ttyzf, TIOCCONS): Bad file descriptor error? |
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| 21:25.30 | blu | is there a "sounds-like" dictionary. e.g. I want to know what sounds like "frolf" but isn't (nor golf) ? |
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| 21:25.49 | procrastinator | ARRRRGH, tar, what the hell is wrong with you? |
| 21:25.55 | jello | hello all, i'm having a problem with ssh in sarge. I can ssh to my machine okay and get a session, but if I try to run a command using ssh (eg. sftp, or ssh localhost /bin/sh) the connection closes without running the command. Can anyone help? You can see the debug output from sshd and sftp client at http://www.nahmias.net/ssh/. |
| 21:26.03 | procrastinator | (unexpected EOF of my only backup) |
| 21:26.06 | cocozz | Hi , I just installed nfs but when trying to mount a server directory I get : mount: RPC: Unregistered softwre |
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| 21:26.13 | lampshade | So ugh, I hate to ask this but, Sarge, the old testing, was released as Stable, right? So does the new testing get a new Toy Story character name? SID is always unstable, right? just the testing and official get new names? |
| 21:26.15 | pipeline | cocozz: portmap isn't running. |
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| 21:26.30 | jello | lampshade: testing ==> etch |
| 21:26.33 | pipeline | cocozz: That, or the portmap configuration isn't kosher. Check /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny |
| 21:26.34 | cocozz | piped, yes it is |
| 21:26.51 | cocozz | piped, those config files are also ok :( |
| 21:28.08 | ttick | !seen directhex |
| 21:28.08 | dpkg | directhex <~jms@shields.gotadsl.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 20h 52m 54s ago, saying: 'fuck it, i'm going to bed. if it's not one troll it's another, i wonder why i bother seing as i had other things to do tonight'. |
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| 21:28.36 | thorie | what does this mean "reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work)" ??? |
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| 21:29.54 | wigwam | what's the command again to convert a java binary download to a .deb? |
| 21:30.05 | pipeline | make-jpkg or something |
| 21:30.07 | caphuso | wigwam: make-jpkg |
| 21:30.11 | wigwam | thanks ;) |
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| 21:31.01 | gvandora | I'm having problems getting bootlogd to work. Anyone know how to fix the ioctl (/dev/ttyzf, TIOCCONS): Bad file descriptor error? Any suggestions? |
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| 21:31.49 | gass | hello |
| 21:32.04 | bucky | olleh |
| 21:32.04 | gass | does anyone know where is openoffice.org2 packages foramd64? |
| 21:32.09 | gass | does anyone know where is openoffice.org2 packages for amd64? |
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| 21:32.13 | baikonur | hi |
| 21:32.19 | simonrvn | no |
| 21:32.43 | bucky | gass, is there a 64 bit version of openoffice.org2 ? |
| 21:32.47 | kie27 | what do i need to change to allow normal users to be able to use ping again, (currently root only) |
| 21:33.11 | baikonur | after upgrading to kernel 2.6.12 from 2.4.21 I get alsactl: set_control:994: bad control.6.value type at startup, I'm running sid, how can I solve this error? |
| 21:33.13 | gass | bucky: openoffice.org compiles in 64 bit ... but i don't have all build-dependencies |
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| 21:33.21 | gass | and need that to do a work |
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| 21:33.42 | bucky | wow didn't know openoffice.org compiles in 64 bit |
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| 21:34.09 | gass | bucky: is ooo2 beta from experimental |
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| 21:34.40 | jair | guys I am trying to run the command make && make install on the configuration and installation of ipw2100 ??? http://rafb.net/paste/results/vGsFUD46.html |
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| 21:35.03 | jair | I think I have to do something with the modules directory but I do not really exacly what? |
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| 21:35.10 | gass | humm ... build-dep are in unstable |
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| 21:35.29 | jair | anyone here can check the error I am getting at this link: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vGsFUD46.html |
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| 21:36.04 | K_Dallas | jair, i think you have to install headers for your kernel |
| 21:36.13 | K_Dallas | or the source |
| 21:36.51 | jair | K_Dallas, I did isntall the headers already, I install the image kernel too. |
| 21:36.55 | will_ | ilzzyb: you still there? Found the answer to my problem buried deep in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
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| 21:37.29 | bucky | jair, what does l -d /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/ say? |
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| 21:38.09 | jair | bucky, one second ok ;) |
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| 21:38.58 | jair | bucky, caracas:/usr/src/ipw2100-1.1.0# l -d /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/ |
| 21:38.58 | jair | -su: l: command not found |
| 21:38.59 | Virtual | How do I change the name of my machine? |
| 21:39.12 | jair | bucky, caracas:/usr/src/ipw2100-1.1.0# ls -d /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/ |
| 21:39.12 | jair | /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/ |
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| 21:39.33 | jair | bucky, what is the command ??? l -d is not found |
| 21:39.43 | trouble | hi. does someone know what type of encryption 'aay8d2BVOeruz' is? |
| 21:39.45 | kie27 | ok, it's working www.free-barcode.org i just had to kill and restart named |
| 21:39.48 | bucky | ls .. is good |
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| 21:40.27 | K_Dallas | jair you probably need the source for the kernel but what do you have in that dir of yours anyways? |
| 21:40.43 | bucky | jair, does modules-assistant have the option of building that for you.. i'd atp-get it and look into it because ipw2100-source is available in sarge |
| 21:40.58 | jair | K_Dallas, so i need what download the gz file ? the soruce? |
| 21:41.16 | K_Dallas | maybe not, see what bucky is saying |
| 21:41.28 | bucky | K_Dallas, there's no build directory in his /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/ |
| 21:41.34 | K_Dallas | i see |
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| 21:41.59 | K_Dallas | bucky, i have for my kernel tho |
| 21:42.37 | bucky | K_Dallas, i never use headers.. a lot of modules won't build against them |
| 21:42.55 | jair | bucky, yes but the thing is that this is sarge stable running a kernel from testing, i download the kernel image and kernel headers by itself from the testing ftp but I have the sarge districution. the reson why is because this testing kernel fix a problem of turn off complete my laptop the kernel 2.6.8 do not turn off my fan, batter and wireless |
| 21:43.15 | douglas | which package name am i looking for for a program that needs GD installed .. libgd-dev? libgd-gif-tools? which is the most-inclusive gd package i should install |
| 21:43.35 | douglas | for graphics manipulation apparently |
| 21:43.41 | bucky | jair, so? |
| 21:44.13 | jair | bucky, I can not apt-get install because my apt- repositories are all sarge |
| 21:44.25 | bucky | jair, have you apt-get module-assistant |
| 21:44.41 | bucky | jair, apt-get module-assistant and run it |
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| 21:45.15 | jair | bucky, i have that module assistant I have the wireless runnign and everyting good if I run the kernel 2.6.8 from sarge but the computer do not turn off qhen i run the halt or shutdown commands |
| 21:45.18 | jello | hello all, i'm having a problem with ssh in debian sarge. I can ssh to my machine okay and get a session, but if I try to run a command using ssh (eg. sftp, or ssh localhost /bin/sh) the connection closes without running the command. Can anyone help? You can see the debug output from sshd and sftp client at http://www.nahmias.net/ssh/. |
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| 21:45.29 | jair | bucky, I dod not need to run that |
| 21:45.39 | bucky | why not? |
| 21:45.47 | Eno_ | what modules do i need to get my usb printer on kernel 2.4 (sarge)? |
| 21:45.50 | jair | bucky, I configure in the other kernels without run the module-assistant |
| 21:45.59 | bucky | jair, you need to build a module for every different kernel\ |
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| 21:46.04 | RichardC | where is the sudoers file? |
| 21:46.07 | [sess] | recently I was playing with Gentoo, and their vim is all colorcoded in EVERYTHING, also it returns you to to the last place you were editing in each document you were working on. How can I get this in debian? |
| 21:46.12 | bucky | jair, then you know more about it than me |
| 21:46.18 | Silicon | ./etc |
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| 21:46.50 | [sess] | richard: why not just visudo |
| 21:47.09 | bucky | [sess], edit ~/.bashrc and uncomment the color lines |
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| 21:47.45 | bucky | [sess], i don't know about returning you to to the last place you were editing in each document |
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| 21:49.45 | ohad | tzafrir_laptop, hry |
| 21:49.48 | ohad | tzafrir_laptop, hey |
| 21:50.00 | ohad | tzafrir_laptop, how are you? |
| 21:50.07 | Virtual | Linux 192.168.40.1 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Thu May 19 17:53:30 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux - how do I change that in stead of 192.168.40.1 to apear Virtual ? |
| 21:50.08 | [sess] | bucky: nothing in my .bashrc even related to vim, and I already get color in bash and xterms during listing... |
| 21:50.13 | jair | bucky, correct so then this kernel do not have a module builded that is why I am getting that error? |
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| 21:50.35 | tzafrir_laptop | ohad, hi |
| 21:50.40 | chealer | Virtual: what does $ hostname return? |
| 21:50.47 | jair | bucky, so then I could not run or create that module manually without use the module-assistamnt? |
| 21:50.55 | paulswm | [sess]: If you mean context highlighting, I get that in vim and gvim, with regard to the last place thing, I assume that's a vim set up thing |
| 21:51.04 | Virtual | chealer, 192:~# hostname |
| 21:51.04 | Virtual | 192.168.40.1 |
| 21:51.08 | bucky | [sess], alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
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| 21:51.37 | chealer | Virtual: ...man hostname |
| 21:51.38 | bucky | [sess], that's not in .bashrc ? |
| 21:51.43 | paulswm | bucky: He's talking about context highlighting in vim, not terminal colors for ls |
| 21:51.54 | paulswm | *rolleyes* |
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| 21:52.00 | lampshade | Does debian still act funny when dealing with apache2? Like how it does the virtual hosting and how it doesn't use httpd.conf? I remember it being weird |
| 21:52.10 | [sess] | yes, vim context editing |
| 21:52.16 | [sess] | highlighting rather |
| 21:52.40 | NewpZ | hi can someone take a look at this? |
| 21:52.41 | NewpZ | http://pastebin.com/303164 |
| 21:52.49 | paulswm | [sess]: read the vim docs, it's all in the vim setup |
| 21:52.55 | bucky | lampshade, it acts funny because all the configuration files are in /etc/apache2... is that funny? |
| 21:52.56 | NewpZ | i think my linux box has been slow lately cause of that crap |
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| 21:53.11 | paulswm | [sess]: or grab the .vimrc file from gentoo |
| 21:53.24 | jasoncohen | is it considered a bug that aptitude and apt-get can't be used together because aptitude's db will go out of sync and try to install packages which are already installed even after an aptitude update, or is that how aptitude is supposed to function (i.e being used alone) |
| 21:53.36 | Eno_ | what modules do i need to get my usb printer on kernel 2.4 (sarge)? |
| 21:53.46 | paulswm | jasoncohen: Ir's a bug, use one or the other |
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| 21:53.58 | lampshade | bucky: I just remember something like for virtual hosts, you had all kinds of weird symlinks and things like that. Have you done any virtual hosting with it? |
| 21:54.01 | Whoppix27 | hello folks |
| 21:54.12 | jasoncohen | paulswm, it's a known bug w/o a fix? |
| 21:54.12 | Whoppix27 | can u read me? |
| 21:54.22 | paulswm | jasoncohen: At least I've seen it said here that it's a bug, I always use command line aptitude anyway |
| 21:54.31 | chealer | is it the same for synaptic/aptitude |
| 21:54.36 | jasoncohen | paulswm, i'm talking about command line aptitude |
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| 21:54.46 | jasoncohen | chealer, no- i never have problems using synaptic |
| 21:54.56 | jasoncohen | is synaptic a frontend for apt or aptitude? |
| 21:54.59 | bucky | lampshade, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ has symlinks to /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 21:55.03 | chealer | jasoncohen: but using aptitude when you use synaptic too? |
| 21:55.08 | kzar | does anyone know how I can make a shell script wait for enter to be pressed? |
| 21:55.12 | jasoncohen | chealer, yes |
| 21:55.13 | chealer | jasoncohen: for apt, I guess |
| 21:55.31 | chealer | ok, so that explains why I don't use aptitude |
| 21:55.53 | jasoncohen | i can use apt & synaptic w/o problems |
| 21:56.00 | chealer | yeah I know that |
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| 21:56.08 | jasoncohen | but if i want to install a package with recommends from the command line i can't |
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| 21:56.28 | jasoncohen | i would have to do apt-get remove --purge aptitude, then apt-get aptitude and then do it |
| 21:56.30 | chealer | but trying to use aptitude I always wondered if it was normal that it looked broken or if it was really broken |
| 21:56.32 | jasoncohen | or just use aptitude |
| 21:56.45 | jasoncohen | how does it look broken? |
| 21:56.57 | theb0y | hello, can anyone tell me how I'm able to check whether my dialup modem on COM1 is alive? |
| 21:57.08 | tarzeau | theb0y: use minicom? |
| 21:57.08 | kzar | check its pulse |
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| 21:57.23 | theb0y | tarzeau: ok, and how to check if it works ? |
| 21:57.29 | beardy | theb0y: atz |
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| 21:57.48 | tarzeau | theb0y: using AT commands |
| 21:57.49 | beardy | theb0y: or dial somewhere |
| 21:57.49 | jasoncohen | why does aptitude read the package list & build package dependencies before & after running an upgrade even if nothing was upgraded? |
| 21:58.03 | paulswm | kzar: man bash, shell builtin functions, read -- or /join #bash |
| 21:58.05 | Gnea | W: Unable to locate package update-pciids |
| 21:58.09 | Gnea | wtf... |
| 21:58.24 | caphuso | Gnea: hint: not all commands are in packages of the same name |
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| 21:58.44 | paulswm | Gnea: apt-file is your friend |
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| 21:58.59 | paulswm | !wb FieldySnuts |
| 21:59.00 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! FieldySnuts has returned! |
| 21:59.03 | cusco | bash: apt-file: command not found |
| 21:59.07 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
| 21:59.09 | Gnea | caphuso: thanks |
| 21:59.17 | Gnea | :*) |
| 21:59.22 | paulswm | cusco: you have to install it first |
| 21:59.56 | theb0y | tarzeau: i see this:,..OL.Ç..ÇÇ.Ç....Mì-+.Mÿ--ÿ, |
| 22:00.01 | theb0y | tarzeau: strange chars.. |
| 22:00.05 | tarzeau | theb0y: that's good |
| 22:00.11 | tarzeau | theb0y: you got the minicom configured wrong |
| 22:00.12 | theb0y | tarzeau: every letter i'm typing is like ,..OL.Ç..ÇÇ.Ç....Mì-+.Mÿ--ÿ, junk hehhh |
| 22:00.13 | dings | s there a new tric to nvtv? I seem unable to get a picture. I do however get some flickering when pressing "tv on" |
| 22:00.15 | theb0y | ic ? |
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| 22:00.20 | tarzeau | theb0y: yeah that's PEBKAC |
| 22:00.49 | paulswm | The id 10 T error |
| 22:00.54 | theb0y | where is the config file tarzeau? |
| 22:00.54 | bucky | [sess], which vim do you have and do you have vim-scripts ? |
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| 22:01.00 | theb0y | tarzeau: what must i do? ;) |
| 22:01.04 | tarzeau | someone to play some bubble bobble dreamland levels? |
| 22:01.14 | tarzeau | theb0y: configure minicom probably 9600 8bit 1stopbit |
| 22:01.21 | theb0y | tarzeau: how to? |
| 22:01.30 | tarzeau | theb0y: staart with ctrl-a ? or so |
| 22:01.34 | tarzeau | or h |
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| 22:01.46 | chealer | jasoncohen: aptitude install foo always wants to remove tons of packages. does that look like what you were talking about? |
| 22:01.49 | beardy | theb0y: Alt-z gives help screen. |
| 22:01.53 | theb0y | 38400 8N1 |
| 22:02.01 | tarzeau | theb0y: try 9600 |
| 22:02.09 | bucky | aptitude sucks a big one |
| 22:02.16 | tarzeau | bucky: try moo |
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| 22:02.27 | jasoncohen | chealer, i don't get that- sounds like your aptitude db is out of sync- try doing apt-get remove --purge aptitude and then apt-get install aptitude and try installing the package you want with aptitude |
| 22:02.31 | theb0y | tarzeau: i'm trying to figure out how to change it to 56000.. it's unclear how to.. |
| 22:02.42 | bucky | [sess], apt-cache search vim |
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| 22:02.51 | tarzeau | theb0y: should be fairly easy. wanna play bub-n-bros? |
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| 22:03.15 | jair | bucky, I run the command and I think i have a good answer: are you still here? |
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| 22:03.31 | beardy | theb0y: You can only get 38400 when connecting modem to modem anyway. |
| 22:03.33 | bucky | jair, no.. i'm not here |
| 22:03.39 | bucky | !ignore jair |
| 22:03.47 | tarzeau | jethro, paulswm: #bub-n-bros now? |
| 22:03.51 | tarzeau | mort_: you too! WAKE UP |
| 22:03.53 | chealer | jasoncohen: I could do that...but I wouldn't do that each time |
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| 22:04.33 | mort_ | tarzeau: hmm |
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| 22:04.53 | jasoncohen | chealer, you would have to do it only once |
| 22:05.05 | jasoncohen | chealer, currently it seems you have to either use aptitude or apt-get/synaptic |
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| 22:05.14 | FieldySnuts | io scheduler cfq registered (default) |
| 22:05.19 | FieldySnuts | there we go. we'll see how this works out |
| 22:05.20 | jasoncohen | chealer, if you just used aptitude it would work fine |
| 22:05.28 | Virtual | How can I mount a fat32 partition so that also the users on the system may have access to it and not only root? |
| 22:05.32 | chealer | jasoncohen: you mean only once if I stick with aptitude only, right? |
| 22:05.32 | tarzeau | mort_: LOL 232300 POINTS IN LEVEL 1 ;) |
| 22:05.45 | tarzeau | LOOOOL DIAMONDS I AM SO THE DRUGDEALER BITCH DRAGON |
| 22:05.48 | jasoncohen | chealer, yes |
| 22:06.03 | chealer | jasoncohen: yeah, but it doesn't have a GUI to replace synaptic...so I'll consider myself damned |
| 22:06.09 | theb0y | tarzeau: with wvdial i get: --> Modem not responding. how is that possible? the baudrate has been set good in the config.. and the modem is connected |
| 22:06.10 | chealer | aptitude-damned |
| 22:06.12 | mort_ | tarzeau: that is why it's the dreamalnd! |
| 22:06.13 | jair | hahaha |
| 22:06.20 | beardy | !user accessible fat32 |
| 22:06.21 | dpkg | To get an NTFS or VFAT file system accessible by users and groups on the local machine, man mounts; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, fmask, dmask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like conv=auto,uid=<user>,gid=<group>,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 into your fstab's mount option field |
| 22:06.27 | mort_ | anyone else ready to bubble? |
| 22:06.38 | tarzeau | http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 22:08.00 | jair | how could I install this package:? http://rafb.net/paste/results/a3i5Zt60.html |
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| 22:08.36 | chealer | jasoncohen: purging "solved the problem", so thanks for letting me know I'm not alone |
| 22:08.37 | turb | what should i do to assign eth1 an ip address at boot time? |
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| 22:08.57 | Czesiu | turb: edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:09.24 | turb | Czesiu, how? |
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| 22:10.01 | Czesiu | turb: as root run: joe /etc/network/interface |
| 22:10.02 | Virtual | How can I mount a fat32 partition so that also the users on the system may have access to it and not only root? |
| 22:10.19 | turb | Virtual, umask=0000 |
| 22:10.25 | budluva_ | what is the difference between vnc and xforwarding? they're both forms of a remote desktop right? |
| 22:10.46 | turb | Czesiu, vi |
| 22:10.54 | jdhutchin1 | budluva, vnc is a completely different protocol, basically sends jpeg images (iirc) over the network |
| 22:11.13 | jdhutchin1 | x forwarding forwards x server stuff, just like how you access x on a local machine |
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| 22:12.00 | Czesiu | turb: ok, if you like it :) Look at http://blabluga.hell.pl/interfaces for example. Run man interfaces to learn more. |
| 22:12.07 | budluva_ | jdhutchin1 so you use x forwarding with a gui or no? |
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| 22:12.19 | bucky | turb, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-high-static |
| 22:12.21 | colter | After manually selecting the x-core, gdm, gnome et al, gnome's "Applications" menu entry: "Debian Menu" is empty. Can anybody tell me what package I'm missing? |
| 22:13.04 | jasoncohen | there doesn't seem to be a bug report about apt & aptitude not working together |
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| 22:14.21 | turb | thank you all |
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| 22:14.30 | jasoncohen | colby, apt-get install menu menu-xdg |
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| 22:14.42 | beardy | !tell Virtual about user accessible fat32 |
| 22:17.01 | Peterken | Hello, i get an error on startx, he says Fatal server error: Requested Entity already in use. What mistake could it be? |
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| 22:17.02 | jasoncohen | should i report the aptitude bug? how could it have not been reported if so many people know about it? |
| 22:17.02 | colter | jasoncohen: I assume you meant me and not colby. Thanks for the tip |
| 22:17.33 | caphuso | jasoncohen: what bug? |
| 22:18.36 | jasoncohen | caphuso, the bug which prevents aptitude and aptitude from being used together. aptitude's db gets out of sync and it starts trying to install random packages which were removed in the past. it can't be fixed with an apt-get update |
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| 22:18.44 | jasoncohen | *it can't be fixed with an aptitude update |
| 22:18.46 | caphuso | jasoncohen: that's not a bug |
| 22:18.47 | Guerin | jasoncohen: /msg dpkg aptitude |
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| 22:18.59 | jasoncohen | the only fix is to apt-get remove --purge aptitude and re-install |
| 22:18.59 | Virtual | How can I configure a network between my laptop and my desktop ? Preferably with internet sharing also |
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| 22:19.14 | caphuso | jasoncohen: it's not the only fix. it's just the easiest one |
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| 22:19.19 | jair | guys how could I remove a kernel that I installed using dpkg -i? |
| 22:19.33 | prodope | when i'm compiling a kernel, do i need to be root to 'make, make modules_install, and make install'? all three? |
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| 22:19.42 | beardy | jair: Using aptitute. |
| 22:19.43 | Guerin | jair: you know how to use dpkg -i but not -P or -r? |
| 22:19.46 | jasoncohen | caphuso, how is that not a bug? why should aptitude have to be used alone? |
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| 22:19.55 | Guerin | jair: man dpkg |
| 22:20.01 | paulswm | caphuso: Well good, thanks for clearing that up, someone here the other day waid that aptitude and apt-get not working together was a bug. |
| 22:20.03 | WiFiTux | what is the debian way of removing an old kernel from the grub menu.lst ? |
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| 22:20.05 | jair | Guerin, thank you |
| 22:20.06 | trouble | does someone know what type of encryption 'aay8d2BVOeruz' is? |
| 22:20.06 | prodope | jair: apt-get remove --purge <kernel> |
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| 22:20.23 | jair | prodope, I used dpkg -i to install it |
| 22:20.23 | Guerin | trouble: impossible to telll |
| 22:20.26 | jasoncohen | WiFiTux, if you have gnome you can use boot-admin which is quite easy |
| 22:20.29 | Guerin | jair: irrelevant. |
| 22:20.32 | prodope | jair: ok... |
| 22:20.34 | trouble | hm |
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| 22:20.36 | prodope | jair: apt-get remove --purge <kernel> |
| 22:20.37 | jair | ohh ok |
| 22:20.37 | paulswm | WiFiTux: apt-get (or aptitude) remove <kernel> |
| 22:20.38 | WiFiTux | jasoncohen: yep, I gues I can. Thanks |
| 22:20.40 | jair | ;) |
| 22:20.50 | caphuso | jasoncohen: it doesn't have to. all you need to do is keep both metadata caches in sync |
| 22:20.52 | WiFiTux | paulswm: will that remove the custom kernel? :) |
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| 22:21.09 | caphuso | jasoncohen: which is a PITA, so don't bother and just use aptitude |
| 22:21.10 | paulswm | WiFiTux: Yes, I remove them with 'aptitude purge' actually |
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| 22:21.34 | directhex | jasoncohen, boot-admin is bugged severely, as in "if you use this, you won't be able to boot windows anymore" |
| 22:21.46 | hiaslboy | anybody does know how to set up a xinarama solution or where can read it up? |
| 22:21.47 | polm | Is there a HOWTO for using DMIX with ALSA on my Debian ? |
| 22:21.52 | WiFiTux | paulswm: cool |
| 22:22.06 | paulswm | WiFiTux: if you do 'COLUMNS=200 dpkg -i|grep kernel-image", you'll see the package name of your custom kernel |
| 22:22.08 | Guerin | polm: /msg dpkg dmix |
| 22:22.14 | loz | hi. anyone here had a problem where running the kernel-2.6-686-smp seems to cause their 2nd nic to not produce a valid eth1? |
| 22:22.14 | directhex | !tell polm about dmix |
| 22:22.15 | WiFiTux | now I have to figure out a nice and siiimple way to use openvpn |
| 22:22.23 | jasoncohen | paulswm & caphuso : i don't see why that's not a bug. aptitude is described as an apt frontend. if that's the case, why must it be used exclusively? the synaptic gui is also a lot better than aptitude's visual mode |
| 22:22.24 | WiFiTux | paulswm: ;) |
| 22:22.26 | paulswm | WiFiTux: dpkg -l I mean |
| 22:22.32 | jair | thank you guys I am getting this error message: when i am trying to use the module-assistant -->http://rafb.net/paste/results/4grjNY76.html |
| 22:22.46 | jasoncohen | directhex, oh? |
| 22:22.55 | caphuso | jasoncohen: yes, and apt-get is also a apt frontend. that doesn't mean you can simply intermix them |
| 22:23.03 | jasoncohen | caphuso, how do you keep them both in sync? |
| 22:23.09 | caphuso | jasoncohen: i don't |
| 22:23.14 | jair | and this one tells me that the kernel headers is not installed when i installed already http://rafb.net/paste/results/KraVFY72.html |
| 22:23.25 | Guerin | jair: you didn't rtfm and do m-a prepare, did you? |
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| 22:23.57 | FieldySnuts | !dachs jair |
| 22:23.57 | jair | guerin not idea of the meaning of those words? |
| 22:23.58 | dpkg | jair: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
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| 22:24.30 | Agrajag- | Guerin: i was talking to you yesterday about mplayer problems, and you gave me that list of deps to install - i just got around to it - and these are the broken packages i get: "libfaad2-dev: Depends: libfaad2-0 (= 2.0.0-0.5) but 2.1.beta+cvs20050130.05-0.0 is to be installed" and "libtheora-dev: Depends: libtheora0 (= 0.0.0.alpha4-1.1) but 1.0.alpha3-2 is to be installed" |
| 22:24.30 | Guerin | jair: read man m-a |
| 22:24.40 | paulswm | jasoncohen: Just use one or the other exclusively, I don't see a problem with that. |
| 22:24.40 | Agrajag- | im not sure how to go about fixing that |
| 22:24.46 | Guerin | jair: like you ought to have done first thing. |
| 22:24.56 | jair | guys I really wanted to fix this problem but it looks like I will have to wait until the next kernel came out for "sarge" stable |
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| 22:25.14 | caphuso | jair: good luck with that |
| 22:25.33 | jasoncohen | caphuso, i still don't see how it's not a bug. the documentation doesn't say not to use both together and apt-get is faster. i would just like to be able to install packages with recommends from the command line |
| 22:26.03 | Guerin | jasoncohen: what's stopping you? |
| 22:26.04 | streuner | jair: you need in this case more than luck |
| 22:26.06 | jair | Guerin, http://rafb.net/paste/results/VBCisj12.html this is what I can not understand |
| 22:26.15 | jair | hahaha |
| 22:26.16 | Guerin | jair: read the fucking manual! |
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| 22:26.38 | Guerin | jair: read it! It contains CLEAR and EXPLICIT instructions on how to prepare your system to use module-assistant |
| 22:26.44 | jasoncohen | Guerin, the fact that i can't use both together without aptitude's db going out of sync. caphuso said there was a way to keep the caches in sync but he didn't say how. |
| 22:26.58 | Guerin | jasoncohen: there's no reason to use apt-get. Use aptitude. |
| 22:27.10 | Guerin | jasoncohen: aptitude can do all you want of it. |
| 22:27.31 | jair | Guerin, so then this is what I will do, i will remove that kernel and compile my own kernel using the one from kernel.org |
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| 22:27.51 | directhex | why must people be violently stupid? |
| 22:27.54 | caphuso | jasoncohen: *sigh* i didn't say it because it's friggin' obvious how do it |
| 22:28.02 | streuner | jair: why not just use etch? |
| 22:28.05 | directhex | the kind of stupid that jumps out of your monitor and punches you in the face? |
| 22:28.13 | Guerin | jair: NO. Use the tools available to you... just use them PROPERLY. Like, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS first! |
| 22:28.25 | jair | thank you guys, it looks like I have to do it that way back up my data and use it. |
| 22:28.32 | Guerin | directhex: you gotta wonder. |
| 22:28.34 | jasoncohen | Guerin, yeah, but it seems unnecessarily slow when it's doing basically the same thing 95% of the time |
| 22:28.39 | Guerin | jasoncohen: ? |
| 22:28.42 | jair | streuner, you have a point :) |
| 22:28.52 | jair | streuner, but I really like sarge |
| 22:28.59 | kittonian | are there any known issues with the adaptec aha-2940uw scsi controller and the sarge installer with the 2.6 kernel? |
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| 22:29.09 | jair | Guerin, thanks and comedown ;) |
| 22:29.12 | jasoncohen | caphuso, doesn't "aptitude update" update the cache? doing that doesn't fix the problem- as i said earlier |
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| 22:29.18 | Guerin | jasoncohen: you notice a meaningful speed difference? I mean, apart from the additional couple sec at start and end while it loads and saves state for 15,000 packages... |
| 22:29.26 | Agrajag- | Guerin: those errors i got, is that the same as what you got? |
| 22:29.35 | jasoncohen | Guerin, no- just that |
| 22:29.37 | Guerin | Agrajag-: yeah, I replied last night. |
| 22:29.39 | streuner | jair: well, sarge is good and stable - good for servers... |
| 22:29.47 | Guerin | Agrajag-: aptitude install libtheora0=0.0.0.alpha4-1.1 |
| 22:29.49 | directhex | kittonian, some new adaptecs don't work on 2.6.8 |
| 22:30.01 | jasoncohen | Guerin, but i would say it takes longer to load the state and it does it twice unlike apt which only does it once |
| 22:30.14 | jasoncohen | seems signifigantly longer for that part |
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| 22:30.19 | p5yop5 | hi |
| 22:30.21 | chealer | the aptitude bug report mentions it could be fixed in experimental |
| 22:30.23 | Guerin | jasoncohen: give over. How old is your machine that that's meaningful - it's ALMOST meaningful on my p2-233 |
| 22:30.25 | Agrajag- | Guerin: and i suppose libfaad 2.0.0-0.5 |
| 22:30.34 | IR9557 | holaaa |
| 22:30.34 | jair | streuner, that is where I use it for |
| 22:30.48 | jair | streuner, my laptop can use testing like you said |
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| 22:30.58 | Guerin | Agrajag-: oh, right. using packagename=version will force the installation of that specific version. |
| 22:31.00 | jair | streuner, I will have to backup everything then though ;) |
| 22:31.08 | Agrajag- | yep ok ta |
| 22:31.18 | Agrajag- | those two packages seem to be the problem |
| 22:31.27 | jasoncohen | Guerin, it's a P4 1.6 GHz. it's not the time so much as the ratio difference. an apt-get upgrade is almost instantaneous on apt-get if there are no updates- but aptitude loads/saves its state before and after even with 0 updates |
| 22:31.28 | Guerin | Agrajag-: before you remove them |
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| 22:31.52 | kittonian | directhex: the 2940UW is not a new Adaptec card |
| 22:31.57 | Guerin | Agrajag-: find out where they came from - they're not in debian, and I don't believe they're in marillat either. |
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| 22:32.16 | Guerin | jasoncohen: -----< what's this? |
| 22:32.27 | Agrajag- | hmm well that's very strange, as im quite sure they're the only repos i have |
| 22:32.35 | jasoncohen | ..my name? |
| 22:32.35 | jasoncohen | heh |
| 22:32.40 | challenged | kittonian, advansys chipset used to work on 2.4 kernels havent had one for a few years |
| 22:32.41 | Guerin | jasoncohen: a hair being split |
| 22:32.50 | jasoncohen | ah |
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| 22:33.16 | challenged | kittonian, i think that may be your chipset if its not the adaptec ones |
| 22:33.30 | jasoncohen | if i use aptitude, i also can't use synaptic, right? |
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| 22:34.00 | challenged | kittonian, yeah had the same numbering etc |
| 22:34.01 | Guerin | jasoncohen: synaptic is a front to apt-get, yes. |
| 22:34.13 | mtgh | Does anyone know a freenode channel where I can ask a vb question? |
| 22:34.28 | kittonian | challenged: it's an actual adaptec card not an onboard controller |
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| 22:34.41 | jasoncohen | caphuso, is the obvious solution you mentioned earlier to run aptitude update frequently? |
| 22:34.46 | resiak | mtgh: #vb ? #visualbasic ? Use your imagination! |
| 22:34.52 | streuner | mtgh: if you refering to VisualBasic you might be out of luck, keep in mind its OT here |
| 22:34.56 | gravity | mtgh: Freenode is pretty much devoted to Free Software, so there probably isn't a channel for that |
| 22:35.08 | gravity | Although stranger things have happened |
| 22:35.11 | jasoncohen | if that's the solution, i don't see how it will work if running aptitude update doesn't work when it breaks |
| 22:35.12 | kittonian | really what I'd like to know is what's the absolute best scsi (u320/u160) raid controller that I can get that will for sure work without issue with sarge |
| 22:35.21 | caphuso | jasoncohen: no, of course not. you need to make sure aptitude knows about all the other meta information it uses too |
| 22:35.29 | kittonian | the 2200S definitely isn't the one. it's been two days of torture and it simply doesn't work |
| 22:35.38 | jasoncohen | caphuso, how does apt-get know? |
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| 22:35.42 | caphuso | jasoncohen: it doesn't |
| 22:35.43 | challenged | kittonian, ahh sorry its early i misread ist not a new adaptec as is not an adaptec |
| 22:35.45 | kittonian | so i'd like to give the client another option if they demand it |
| 22:35.59 | jasoncohen | so, why does apt-get work? |
| 22:36.04 | caphuso | jasoncohen: it doesn't |
| 22:36.06 | pjz | anyone know how to get ant (on debian) to build and allow access to the libs in /usr/share/java ? |
| 22:36.11 | kittonian | challenged, it is an adaptec it's an adaptec 2940UW host controller |
| 22:36.12 | jasoncohen | ...- it seems to work for me |
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| 22:36.37 | jungle | kittonian, serveraid maybe |
| 22:36.41 | challenged | kittonian, asc7890 chip id expect |
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| 22:37.10 | jasoncohen | can you tell me your obvious solution? i don't see anything in aptitude's man page and i would like to continue using synaptic |
| 22:37.32 | kittonian | challenged, nope it's an actual adaptec chip |
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| 22:37.53 | kittonian | no worries, i'm pretty sure it'll be fine. it's in the supported scsi controllers list |
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| 22:38.12 | kittonian | and has been for quite some time but I wanted to see if anyone had any experience with it to know for sure |
| 22:38.28 | kittonian | jungle: ibm serveraid? |
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| 22:38.42 | challenged | kittonian, probably most of the compaq/HP ones as they are supporting linux on servers............asc = adaptec semi conductors....just the chip name |
| 22:38.45 | jasoncohen | caphuso, can you tell me your obvious solution? i don't see anything in aptitude's man page and i would like to continue using synaptic? |
| 22:39.02 | kittonian | jungle, good suggestion but that's about the lowest performance raid controllers i've ever dealt with and super expensive to boot |
| 22:39.08 | tcsetattr | aic7xxx is the module |
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| 22:39.50 | caphuso | jasoncohen: you do it by using aptitude, and keeping the other stuff in sync to it |
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| 22:40.22 | caphuso | the other way round isn't possible, unless you like spending hours with manually teaching aptitude about stuff |
| 22:40.32 | jasoncohen | ok, that's all i wanted know |
| 22:40.34 | hikenboot | does anyone know how to get into the bios on sun sparc stations so I can boot from the debian netinstall cd? |
| 22:40.35 | kittonian | ok, off that topic for a moment. is it possible during the install to setup a software raid 5 array, even if yoou only have 3 total drives in the system? The client wants RAID 5 running so he can hot swap the drives if one fails without going down (this was the reason for him spending the cash on the 2200S) |
| 22:40.57 | FieldySnuts | you are not going to hot swap using software raid |
| 22:41.15 | pjz | what's a good java sdk to use? from where? blackdown? |
| 22:41.23 | kittonian | FieldySnuts: that's what I thought. it's got to be a hardware raid solution in order to allow hotswap |
| 22:41.37 | FieldySnuts | kittonian: that's right, and all of the hardware has to support it as well, including the disks |
| 22:41.39 | turb | i plugged in my camera some time ago and debian stuck. afraid to do it again |
| 22:41.55 | Guerin | caphuso: EOL time :) |
| 22:42.03 | kittonian | regardless, can a raid 5 array at least be setup (software raid 5) during the installation so he's at least got that going across all 3 disks? |
| 22:42.06 | FarrisG | I have 6 usb hard drives, all the same model and manuf. Is there any way to make udev always assign the same /dev node to the same drive? I was accomplishing my needs with e2label, but now that I want to use LVM I'm having problems when /dev/sdb is unplugged and later becomes /dev/sdc |
| 22:42.08 | tcsetattr | hikenboot, don't say "BIOS", that's a PC word. Press Stop-A (Hold down the "Stop" key and press A) |
| 22:42.18 | directhex | caphuso, is moo essential or not? |
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| 22:42.33 | caphuso | directhex: of course |
| 22:42.56 | p5yop5 | hi |
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| 22:43.02 | p5yop5 | is this debian channel? |
| 22:43.03 | pjz | anyone have suggs on which jdk to use? |
| 22:43.09 | hikenboot | thanks a lot tcsetattr never worked with them before! hey will the debian netinstaller cd work on these systems? |
| 22:43.09 | pjz | p5yop5: yep |
| 22:43.10 | takatumi | a --chagelogs flag to get changelogs from changelogs.d.o would have been great. (similar to aptitude) |
| 22:43.11 | p5yop5 | cool |
| 22:43.17 | resiak | p5yop5: No, it's a mushroom. |
| 22:43.17 | streuner | p5yop5: just ask |
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| 22:43.32 | p5yop5 | I use to use Debian, was my first distro, now I run Gentoo, my second distro |
| 22:43.34 | pjz | p5yop5: or don't bother, I can't get an answer out of anyone |
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| 22:43.40 | cddesjar | anyone have any idea why i would time out with firefox at my home (instead i have to use konqueror) but when i go to a coffee shop to use the wireless i have no problems |
| 22:43.48 | FieldySnuts | @troll pjz |
| 22:43.49 | tcsetattr | hikenboot, if you got the sparc CD image :) |
| 22:43.53 | p5yop5 | streuner: I will have to use Debian again 'cause I friend needs it |
| 22:43.54 | cddesjar | using firefox or thunderibrd |
| 22:44.03 | distempr-o_O | I've installed the nvidia drivers the "debian" way. Now, after upgrading, it tells me that it can't find the nvidia module. While it's there under /lib/modules/xx.xx.xx, I can modprobe it etc, X just can't find the damned thing :/ Help! |
| 22:44.05 | hikenboot | ok thanks that saved me the time i thought there was only one of them |
| 22:44.13 | cddesjar | !gentoo |
| 22:44.14 | dpkg | it has been said that gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/, or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385, or rice rice rice rice |
| 22:44.17 | challenged | FarrisG, look at gnome-volume-manager, it wont do what you want but it will mount whatever it gets given to a specific place automatically... |
| 22:44.20 | streuner | p5yop5: tell your friend he should visit us |
| 22:44.25 | turb | i'm trying to plug the camera agaian..!!! pray it'll work |
| 22:44.36 | pjz | FieldySnuts: yeah, I'm trolling for answers |
| 22:44.38 | FarrisG | challenged: Thanks, but won't get me what I need. |
| 22:44.48 | pjz | FieldySnuts: I'm trying to get tomcat4 to work with this xplanner thing the boss wants set upt |
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| 22:44.51 | turb | it's in |
| 22:44.58 | p5yop5 | streuner: naa,, she is a non-techie non-geekie |
| 22:45.00 | cddesjar | !greenhouse |
| 22:45.00 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 22:45.13 | CosmoDad | on the client side, what do I have to do to make make a machine get its hostname assigned via DHCP (using the ISC client)? Is there any configuration setting I need to do? |
| 22:45.14 | cddesjar | lol |
| 22:45.26 | beardy | What are we, debian users called? |
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| 22:45.39 | p5yop5 | dpkg I don't have nothing against Debian... |
| 22:45.47 | resiak | FarrisG: Yes, there is a way. It involves editing udev.rules |
| 22:45.52 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 22:45.53 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 22:45.53 | pjz | FieldySnuts: and it's not working because it can't find the libs that are clearly in /usr/share/java/, so I was hoping there was a better java build that would find them there |
| 22:46.05 | cddesjar | !bloodbot |
| 22:46.05 | dpkg | perhaps you mean blootbot |
| 22:46.12 | p5yop5 | streuner: when I installed Debian on this friend I had problems with the Floopy |
| 22:46.12 | challenged | FarrisG, you may be able to make a symlink using the hotplug scripts... |
| 22:46.14 | cddesjar | !blootbot |
| 22:46.14 | dpkg | blootbot is probably a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 22:46.19 | FarrisG | resiak: Yes, I know, but I don't know what logic can be used in a udev rule to identify a unique drive unit |
| 22:46.19 | FieldySnuts | pjz: dunno, i could care less when it comes to java |
| 22:46.23 | FieldySnuts | @fuck java |
| 22:46.28 | pjz | FieldySnuts: thanks, you're so helpful |
| 22:46.31 | FieldySnuts | np |
| 22:46.35 | streuner | p5yop5: /msg dpkg ig |
| 22:46.43 | cddesjar | ravenbird comes would be spelled cums |
| 22:46.44 | p5yop5 | streuner: is there a way to mount Floppies automatically? and to read write Windows format, and any format for that matter? |
| 22:46.44 | ravenbird | cddesjar: are you using Windows? |
| 22:46.46 | cddesjar | lol |
| 22:46.48 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 22:46.49 | cddesjar | nope |
| 22:46.55 | pjz | FieldySnuts: an, on the other hand, fuck you for making #debian a less helpful place than it could be |
| 22:46.55 | cddesjar | i am using debian |
| 22:46.56 | cddesjar | why? |
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| 22:47.16 | FarrisG | sheesh |
| 22:47.23 | FarrisG | I was just about to solve pjz's problem |
| 22:47.26 | FarrisG | what a turd |
| 22:47.34 | streuner | p5yop5: vfat is supported very well, but NOT NTFS |
| 22:48.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 829] by debhelper |
| 22:48.12 | cddesjar | is there a sarge package for netscape? |
| 22:48.17 | resiak | FarrisG: man udev |
| 22:48.17 | Dragon-Eater | @fuck deadrat |
| 22:48.22 | caphuso | cddesjar: mozilla-browser |
| 22:48.25 | resiak | cddesjar: Why would you want that? |
| 22:48.33 | cddesjar | cause i can't get firefox to work at home |
| 22:48.35 | beardy | p5yop5: Just mount the floppies. Take a look at mtools too. |
| 22:48.35 | caphuso | Phated: eeek! |
| 22:48.36 | Dragon-Eater | @fuck phaethon |
| 22:48.37 | cddesjar | i don't know why |
| 22:48.40 | Phated | HAHAH. |
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| 22:48.43 | FieldySnuts | HEH |
| 22:48.47 | cddesjar | it's spelled cums!!! |
| 22:48.48 | FieldySnuts | !stgart a world war |
| 22:48.50 | Phated | caphuso: Eek to you to, luv. |
| 22:48.54 | FieldySnuts | ~start a world war |
| 22:48.54 | apt | Pakistan sucks! |
| 22:49.12 | Phated | cddesjar: Only by illiterate AOLified porn writers. |
| 22:49.17 | bucky | p5p5op are you using the mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy command? |
| 22:49.28 | Dragon-Eater | I am using !deadrat |
| 22:49.30 | Phated | Oops, sorry, illiterate and AOLified in the same sentence was redundant. |
| 22:49.34 | Dragon-Eater | !deadrat |
| 22:49.34 | dpkg | i guess deadrat is cf: roothat, redhat |
| 22:49.37 | Dragon-Eater | oh wait :p |
| 22:49.37 | p5yop5 | beardy: but the thing is that I wanted to make it automatically for this non-techie non-geekie woman |
| 22:49.52 | Gnea | actually, it is 'cum' and not 'come' |
| 22:49.55 | cddesjar | i guess AOL runs netscape now don't they? i forgot about that |
| 22:50.03 | caphuso | can we now go back to pretending to be mature? |
| 22:50.05 | Dragon-Eater | i am using !plebian!!! |
| 22:50.06 | cddesjar | but he said comes so it would be cums |
| 22:50.10 | Dragon-Eater | !plebian |
| 22:50.10 | dpkg | If Linux was a religion, and GNU its church, Debian GNU/Linux would be the Amish distribution. Anyone who ever ran apt-get will agree that it is "da bomb". And what's with this woody stuff, were all the good names taken? Bow three times toward Richard Stallman whenever you boot this. See also: hackware, roothat, calhaira, SuRE. |
| 22:50.11 | Phated | Woo, look at the porn writers coming out of the woodwork. |
| 22:50.12 | p5yop5 | bucky: I can use all commands available, but the plan was that as soon as the floppie is inserted to mount it automatically |
| 22:50.13 | bucky | p5p5op i don't think automount works for floppies |
| 22:50.17 | gravity | !botabuse |
| 22:50.17 | mfrisch | cddesjar there "geeks" invented it |
| 22:50.17 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 22:50.36 | bucky | p5p5op but i might be wrong... you might google for it |
| 22:50.42 | beardy | p5yop5: That is doable. I haven't tried, so I don't know how. Look at how livecds does it, they always seem to have automounting. |
| 22:50.47 | cddesjar | !Windows |
| 22:50.47 | dpkg | from memory, windows is from memory, windows is a 32 bit shell on a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system, originally designed for a 4 bit microprocessor, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition, or if it doesn't work there's this little button called "off" on your computer. praying helps too. es una mierda! :), or not on topic here, or see panic(3) |
| 22:50.51 | p5yop5 | bucky: so what do you suggest me to do to set up floppies easy for this woman non-geeki non-techie? |
| 22:51.06 | Phated | Woo, someone fucked with the windows factoid. |
| 22:51.10 | bucky | p5p5op do a google search for floppy+automount |
| 22:51.13 | mfrisch | p5yop5 in gui? |
| 22:51.15 | cddesjar | ha ha ha |
| 22:51.15 | Dragon-Eater | !suse |
| 22:51.15 | dpkg | [suse] a linux distribution that can be found at http://www.suse.com, or german, open source, *nix. . . you do the math. the root of all that is wrong and evil, or #suse |
| 22:51.16 | FieldySnuts | !amuse test |
| 22:51.23 | Gnea | Phated: if i wrote porn no one would read it ;) |
| 22:51.23 | gravity | cddesjar: Please /msg the bot if you want to play |
| 22:51.28 | gravity | Dragon-Eater: Please /msg the bot if you want to play |
| 22:51.29 | cddesjar | sorry |
| 22:51.29 | streuner | Dragon-Eater: stop that |
| 22:51.32 | bucky | mfrisch, yes that's what he means |
| 22:51.34 | Dragon-Eater | yeah i know :p |
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| 22:51.38 | Dragon-Eater | im gone already sjeez |
| 22:51.38 | gravity | Dragon-Eater: Then do it |
| 22:51.41 | Phated | Gnea: You'd be surprised how many sick, sick people there are around. |
| 22:51.41 | distempr-o_O | Can someone help with nvidia? |
| 22:51.44 | dan2 | !helixsmite FieldySnuts |
| 22:51.49 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 22:51.52 | p5yop5 | mfrisch: of course, for this non-techie non-geeki person... I put on her computer rox filer and flux... |
| 22:51.58 | gravity | !tell Dragon-Eater-AFK about away |
| 22:51.59 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: rahulesmite dan2 |
| 22:51.59 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Still trying to write a proper CMD: (.*?) factoid? :) |
| 22:52.02 | shingouz | !tell distempr-o_O about nvidia one liner |
| 22:52.02 | Gnea | Phated: that's the thing - i know, so it wouldn't be any fun |
| 22:52.03 | FieldySnuts | no :( |
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| 22:52.13 | Dragon-Eater-AFK | !tell gravity about pr0n |
| 22:52.14 | FieldySnuts | where the heck did rahulesmite go. |
| 22:52.15 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Heheh. *hughug* |
| 22:52.16 | me_here | lol |
| 22:52.25 | dan2 | !beta3smite FieldySnuts |
| 22:52.30 | *** mode/#debian [+o caphuso] by ChanServ |
| 22:52.35 | polm | How can I create device "/dev/dsp0"? All of the ALSA dmix configs reference dsp0 . I only have "/dev/dsp". |
| 22:52.35 | *** mode/#debian [+q dpkg!*@*] by caphuso |
| 22:52.35 | paulswm | o.O |
| 22:52.35 | CosmoDad | on the client side, what do I have to do to make a machine get its hostname assigned via DHCP (using the ISC client)? Is there any configuration setting (dhcp.conf) I need to do? |
| 22:52.36 | FieldySnuts | nuff please |
| 22:52.36 | cddesjar | does bittorando have a nice gui like azureus? |
| 22:52.37 | shingouz | Dragon-Eater-AFK: please.. play with the bot in a msg |
| 22:52.37 | *** mode/#debian [-o caphuso] by caphuso |
| 22:52.39 | WiFiTux | openvpn is telling me to define KEY_DIR, is that like define $KEY_DIR /etc/openvpn? |
| 22:52.39 | streuner | Dragon-Eater-AFK: adios |
| 22:52.44 | Gnea | heh |
| 22:52.49 | distempr-o_O | shingouz, I'm aware of this. I've used it forever :), now why the fuck won't my X load? spewing "Unable to locate module nvidia" |
| 22:52.55 | Gnea | bot abuse |
| 22:53.03 | Phated | caphuso: :O |
| 22:53.04 | mfrisch | p5yop5 gnome has automount in seperate deb. and automount panel ....gdesktop has a mount tool. |
| 22:53.11 | gravity | distempr-o_O: Are you using the nvidia driver? |
| 22:53.16 | shingouz | distempr-o_O: no clue on that, sorry. i do not have nvidia here at all, i am all matrox |
| 22:53.20 | p5yop5 | if there is way to automount flppies, I would appreciate guidance and help... preferebly on GUI like Flux and with icons |
| 22:53.26 | Gnea | WiFiTux: it means define the directory where you keep your keys at |
| 22:53.35 | distempr-o_O | gravity, Aye, well the debian packages. |
| 22:53.46 | p5yop5 | mfrisch: but I want Flux + rox filer |
| 22:53.52 | streuner | gravity: LTNS |
| 22:53.56 | gravity | distempr-o_O: Sorry. Can't help you. I don't know anything about the non-free driver |
| 22:53.56 | Gnea | ah, another compiled kernel |
| 22:53.57 | Phated | p5yop5: Which will NEVER automount. |
| 22:54.02 | gravity | streuner: LTNS? |
| 22:54.06 | polm | How can I create /dev/dsp0 ? |
| 22:54.08 | streuner | !LTNS |
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| 22:54.09 | kazim | hi |
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| 22:54.14 | shingouz | distempr-o_O: you sure you have the correct kernel is the only thing that comes into my mind |
| 22:54.14 | resiak | Phated: It won't? |
| 22:54.16 | gravity | polm: man MAKEDEV |
| 22:54.21 | kazim | why aterm don't read .Xdefaults please ? :/ |
| 22:54.24 | WiFiTux | Gnea: yeah, I know. How? $KEY_DIR /etc/openvpn says is a directory and can't be |
| 22:54.25 | streuner | gravity: Long Time No See |
| 22:54.25 | resiak | Phated: Worksforme. |
| 22:54.30 | Phated | resiak: Not easily, anyway. I've never had Flux + rox automounty. |
| 22:54.34 | mfrisch | p5yop5 give me a sec |
| 22:54.37 | gravity | streuner: Ah. I've been around, just quiet and working on other things :-) |
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| 22:54.45 | resiak | Phated: Just run g-v-m. Done. |
| 22:54.50 | distempr-o_O | shingouz, yep, double, triple checked... modprobe nvidia works fine... X won't load. |
| 22:55.04 | Phated | resiak: He doesn't want to, it seems. <shrug> I'm not bothered. :) |
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| 22:55.10 | challenged | polm: whatever your reading sounds wrong..... |
| 22:55.18 | shingouz | distempr-o_O: i have to take the fifth here |
| 22:55.20 | mfrisch | p5yop5 apt-get install gdesklets. It should work. It is icons. |
| 22:55.21 | Gnea | WiFiTux: right, /etc/openvpn is just the base config dir - do something like this: mkdir /etc/openvpn/mykeys && export KEY_DIR="/etc/openvpn/mykeys" |
| 22:55.24 | p5yop5 | Phated: why not? I am setting Debian for a non-techie non-geekie person, she needs to point-and-click approach |
| 22:55.28 | challenged | !tell polm about dmix |
| 22:55.37 | Phated | p5yop5: So do what resiak said. Install g-v-m. |
| 22:55.43 | WiFiTux | Gnea: ahh export! |
| 22:55.48 | polm | challenged: none of those configs work. I've tried all three as my .asoundrc . |
| 22:55.48 | Gnea | :) |
| 22:55.51 | challenged | polm: top link in the factoid read there all you need is about 1 3rd down the page..... |
| 22:55.58 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Tried Linspire? |
| 22:56.00 | resiak | Phated: A Gentoobie was telling me about a non-Gnomish hal-and-dbus-based automounter the other day. I'm gonna try it out ot some point and I'll let you know how it works out (if you like) |
| 22:56.02 | directhex | distempr, dpkg -l nvidia* - do version numbers all match up? is nvidia-glx ii'd? |
| 22:56.04 | challenged | polm: did you config the aps? |
| 22:56.07 | p5yop5 | Phated: for Flux + Rox? |
| 22:56.12 | polm | challenged: I still have all my legacy OSS stuff fighting over /dev/dsp |
| 22:56.20 | Gnea | resiak: 'gentoobie'? heh |
| 22:56.26 | distempr-o_O | shingouz, heh thanks for trying ;) |
| 22:56.30 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: I don't know how to use linspire, I only know Debian and Gentoo... |
| 22:56.30 | challenged | polm: what kernel? |
| 22:56.31 | resiak | p5yop5: I use it with Openbox and rox-filer |
| 22:56.33 | Phated | resiak: Hah, no thanks. I mount stuff myself, thanks. Kindly explain g-v-m + Rox + Flux to p5yop5, if you please. |
| 22:56.34 | mfrisch | is that like a doobie |
| 22:56.38 | p5yop5 | and Flux and Rox sort of |
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| 22:56.52 | polm | challenged: 2.6.8 |
| 22:56.57 | thomas_adam | Flux, eh? I'm sorry. |
| 22:57.02 | mfrisch | p5yop5 try it... |
| 22:57.02 | Phated | thomas_adam: Oi. |
| 22:57.06 | shingouz | polm: i fyou are trying to run alsa you need to make the oss modules go away. try blacklisting them |
| 22:57.09 | thomas_adam | I'm still sorry. |
| 22:57.30 | polm | shingouz: I am trying to provide dmix support to my legacy OSS apps. |
| 22:57.39 | p5yop5 | mfrisch: yeah I am getting ideas... there's gotta be a way this lady can just click the floppy and open and save stuff without a hassle |
| 22:57.40 | challenged | polm: when you say you have oss apps that are clashing are you meaning like gnome/kde sounds etc? |
| 22:57.41 | polm | shingouz: I've made this work in the past. |
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| 22:57.46 | resiak | p5yop5: Actually, tbh I use nautilus not rox for mounty stuff, but it can probably be poked. apt-get install gnome-volume-manager; adduser youruser plugdev; log out and in; run gnome-volume-manager |
| 22:57.50 | shingouz | polm: remove the oss modules and use the alsa-oss |
| 22:57.50 | resiak | polm: aoss ? |
| 22:57.54 | kittonian | can anyone tell me for sure whether or not the sarge installer supports creating a raid 5 array on the drives that you are going to install the OS onto and use for bootup? |
| 22:58.13 | challenged | polm: or actuall apps like say xine vs mplayer vs xmms no work also? |
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| 22:58.21 | mfrisch | p5yop5 this makes an icon over the desktop point-and-drool. |
| 22:58.25 | thomas_adam | kittonian: It supports Raid -- I'm not sure if it does raid5 though -- ask #debian-boot |
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| 22:58.28 | IR9557 | im a problrn |
| 22:58.33 | IR9557 | tengo un problema |
| 22:58.41 | thomas_adam | IR9557: Spanish? |
| 22:58.41 | IR9557 | 2 monitores |
| 22:58.43 | njan | I don't suppose anyone in here has any idea what 'dpkg_progress' is when it's at home, do they? |
| 22:58.44 | streuner | !es |
| 22:58.44 | IR9557 | sip |
| 22:58.47 | polm | challenged: I don't have problems with ALSA supporting apps. They all 'dmix' fine. It's just the OSS stuff that wont. |
| 22:58.51 | IR9557 | tengo un problema |
| 22:58.52 | shingouz | dpkg is +q |
| 22:58.54 | streuner | apt, es |
| 22:58.54 | apt | Para los usuarios debian de habla hispana que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #debian-es -- Spanish-speaking debian users requiring support, please join #debian-es |
| 22:59.00 | streuner | apt, br |
| 22:59.00 | apt | from memory, br is Brazil, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:59.03 | paulswm | !tell IR9557 about es |
| 22:59.12 | paulswm | Crap, portuguese |
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| 22:59.32 | streuner | shingouz: oh, missed that - thanks. |
| 22:59.35 | paulswm | Sorry IR9557 |
| 22:59.37 | myren | is there a thunderbird/firefox channel anywhere? |
| 22:59.38 | challenged | polm: and did you set up sound using alsaconf or did discover/hotplug guess most of it? |
| 22:59.45 | myren | thunderbird is beign a freak of nature |
| 22:59.48 | Phated | myren: irc.mozilla.org, probably. |
| 22:59.48 | eason | Anyone had a problem where lines randomly start showing up in KDE title bars and whatnot? For example: http://eeg3.com/misc/KDE_problem.png |
| 22:59.49 | IR9557 | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usabled configuration |
| 22:59.51 | thomas_adam | myren: There might be on irc.gimp.org |
| 23:00.03 | beardy | p5yop5: On the other hand, if this person is non-technical, buy her a usb-stick and check that it works. You will probably hear complains about broken floppies, to little space to save things on, and so on. |
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| 23:00.09 | thomas_adam | IR9557: check your logs. |
| 23:00.13 | IR9557 | this is my problem |
| 23:00.19 | beardy | p5yop5: +otherwise |
| 23:00.22 | Eno_ | can someone point me to an easy way to share my printer with a windows comp? |
| 23:00.29 | streuner | IR9557: nvidia? |
| 23:00.34 | cddesjar | anyone want a copy of the Debian GNU/Linux bible |
| 23:00.36 | p5yop5 | beardy: she saves simple stuff like excel files... |
| 23:00.39 | streuner | IR9557: or ATI? |
| 23:00.40 | IR9557 | sip |
| 23:00.46 | thomas_adam | cddesjar: No. |
| 23:00.47 | beardy | Eno_: samba or cups ? |
| 23:00.52 | IR9557 | nv and s3 virge |
| 23:00.52 | me_here | Eno_: setup samba !!! |
| 23:00.58 | Eno_ | beardy: yeah.. its the samba configuration that kills me |
| 23:01.01 | IR9557 | have 2 |
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| 23:01.06 | polm | challenged: I've tried using alsaconf and hotplug. I'm not sure if one, or neither, actually created the /dev/dspX entries. |
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| 23:01.27 | polm | challenged: I'm thinking I somehow need to remove /dev/dsp and get /dev/dspX going. |
| 23:01.37 | p5yop5 | beardy: I took the challenge to show how Debian was superior to Windows by installing on her old lappie... I succeded on several areas, but I was a utter failure on floppy and dhclient |
| 23:01.38 | challenged | polm: what you need is probably the alsa9 libs....my dmix was glitchy like yours untill i changed my esdsink to alsasink in gnome and went to 1.0.9.....but i had a new card which wasnt supported till 1.0.8 so it may be card spoecific.. |
| 23:01.42 | thomas_adam | polm: Hmm? Are you saying the entries don't exist? |
| 23:01.45 | mfrisch | I thought you set up cups then samba to use the printer |
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| 23:02.01 | gravity | p5yop5: gnome-volume-manager works nicely for me most of the time |
| 23:02.13 | jharrison | tarzeau: ping |
| 23:02.15 | p5yop5 | I couldn't figure out how to she would connect to internet at boot time, and she had to go into root type dhclient and exit root |
| 23:02.26 | dan2 | asg: ping |
| 23:02.33 | challenged | polm, well atm you already have the HW0:3 working...its more getting apps to go via alsa i think which is the soundserver outbound |
| 23:02.35 | polm | thomas_adam: I do not have /dev/dspX. I only have "/dev/dsp". |
| 23:02.37 | beardy | p5yop5: Don't be offended, but the fault is (probably) yours. Try again/more :) |
| 23:02.44 | challenged | polm what WM you use? |
| 23:02.52 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: There are several ways to automout and configure services -- but I question the security in doing so. |
| 23:02.58 | thomas_adam | polm: OK. |
| 23:03.02 | polm | challenged: I just want the OSS apps to dmix. |
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| 23:03.09 | p5yop5 | beardy: I know.. I also failed to get sound working and MPlayer for internet video streaming and sound |
| 23:03.09 | polm | challenged: GNOME 2.10 |
| 23:03.21 | challenged | polm: your on unstable? |
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| 23:03.26 | myren | cant find a thunderbird channel; why must this mail app be so braindead. it just doesnt know how to use multiple smtp servers. it always uses the default, even if i'm sending with another email address. ddumb ass piece of crap. |
| 23:03.40 | me_here | p5yop5: which version of debian do you use ? |
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| 23:03.47 | thomas_adam | myren: So use a different one -- say, mutt. |
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| 23:03.50 | mfrisch | myren Evolution rocks |
| 23:03.52 | K_Dallas | myren, have you paid for thunderbird? |
| 23:03.52 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: this is really a simple lady that needs to write excel programs and enjoys evangelical songs on internet and videos |
| 23:04.00 | polm | challenged: yup, unstable. |
| 23:04.03 | polm | http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg13586.html |
| 23:04.06 | phorce1 | p5yop5: If she can handle 2 simple clicks set /floppy to auto-fs in /etc/fstab and make it mountable by anyone. Create 2 shell scripts and make icons to them on her desktop. Click the MOUNT icon does a 'mount /floppy' click the UNMOUNT icon to do a 'umount /floppy'. She inserts disk, clicks MOUNT, then can save anything she wants to /floppy. Click UNMOUNT and take the floppy out. |
| 23:04.07 | myren | i'll pay for it when it stops sucking ass |
| 23:04.14 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Is she that retarded that she can't learn how to login ? |
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| 23:04.19 | K_Dallas | so go and buy outlook if you like |
| 23:04.22 | challenged | polm: well alsa 1.0.9 is in unstable but only the drivers i think im on etch with pinholes. |
| 23:04.30 | myren | i have yet to setup mutt for all my systems |
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| 23:04.36 | K_Dallas | nobody is forcing you to use that, there are a multitude of email clients |
| 23:04.38 | challenged | polm: have you set up gnome for it? alsasink? |
| 23:04.40 | Hikaru79 | Can someone take a look at this thread please? : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=336558 |
| 23:04.42 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: I mean you can even by-pass the *DM if you wanted and have it boot into a GUI environment. |
| 23:04.47 | p5yop5 | me_here: I used Sarge Minimal CD install and from then on I build the entire thing by hand. Because It was a 266MHz with 128M RAM |
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| 23:05.22 | me_here | p5yop5: ok, thx |
| 23:05.23 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: I did that... when login it took her directly to GUI |
| 23:05.33 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Right -- so where's the problem? |
| 23:05.46 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: I assume she knows how to navigate things from there? |
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| 23:06.06 | p5yop5 | phorce1: that's an excelent idea... where may I find such a scripts? |
| 23:06.17 | polm | challenged: how do I setup/confirm alsalink ? |
| 23:06.18 | scar_ | whats the free hdd space cmd again? |
| 23:06.30 | thomas_adam | scar_: df -h |
| 23:06.34 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: yeah she knows how to navigate of course, but command line is beyond her scope... |
| 23:06.37 | phorce1 | p5yop5: I put the entire requirement for BOTH scripts in my mesage above |
| 23:06.37 | scar_ | !thx |
| 23:07.09 | Roadrunne | hi, what do i have to do to start apache and mysql automatically at system start? |
| 23:07.11 | mfrisch | phorce1 I told him about the same thing too :)~ |
| 23:07.19 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Well, if she only needs to use the Internet,, launch OO.o and what have you, I fail to see why she'd be that concerned by it -- there's plenty ways to enumerate things -- you could even setup a kiosk-based system for her. |
| 23:07.21 | myren | i'd like to eliminate all but the last 10 days from my mailbox; are there any programs which would do this directly on my mbox file? |
| 23:07.37 | phorce1 | p5yop5: MOUNT owuld be 'mount /floppy' UNMOUNT = 'umount /floppy' (after setting /floppy up correctly in /etc/fstab) |
| 23:07.46 | caphuso | myren: mutt |
| 23:07.58 | myren | mutt is hardly meant for scripting |
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| 23:08.07 | mfrisch | myren nail |
| 23:09.12 | phorce1 | mfrisch: /me piddled around with automount stuff for about 30 minutes back in potato -- fixed my /etc/fstab for /cdroms and /floppies and wrote a couple of scripts -- never looked at automounter again. |
| 23:09.14 | beardy | myren: 'man mail' ? |
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| 23:09.39 | p5yop5 | phorce1: ok let me get this straight the icon has to have MOUNT='mount /floppy' and another with UMOUNT='umount /floppy' right? |
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| 23:10.08 | challenged | polm: For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcard which doesn't support hw mixing. |
| 23:10.10 | mfrisch | phorce1 gdesklets would set it up for him gui. I thinks she can mount a disk |
| 23:10.31 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: You could just use: "mount /foo || umount /foo" if it can launch an xterm or somesuch. |
| 23:10.41 | challenged | polm: so just load up alsa-source Module assist it and see if that makes a difference....you may need the libs from alsa themselves .... |
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| 23:11.26 | p5yop5 | phorce1: and would that work with Flux + Rox filer?? I can't use KDE or Gnome on her frail lappie |
| 23:11.36 | phorce1 | p5yop5: no, you write bash scripts called MOUNT and UNMOUNT (note the caps to avoid confusion with the actual mount command). Then your icons point to those scripts. How you set the icons up depends entirely on the WM you are using. I don't use and windowing at all on my debian boxen so I couldn't help there |
| 23:11.40 | challenged | polm: it should be working from what i can see unless your missing the snd-OSS copatibility modules lsmod and see? |
| 23:11.41 | otroean | Hi. How can i change the password for a user? |
| 23:12.00 | BlueShift | otroean: passwd $user |
| 23:12.01 | me_here | otroean: just tell passwd <user> |
| 23:12.02 | phorce1 | p5yop5: "scripts" == "bash scripts" |
| 23:12.24 | thomas_adam | phorce1: You wouldn't need two icons -- you can do it in one -- see my last message, above. |
| 23:12.40 | phorce1 | p5yop5: bash scripts will work with anything |
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| 23:13.42 | phorce1 | thomas_adam: I think it needs to mount and stay that way while she fiddles with files in an XWindows file manager -- then unmount when done |
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| 23:14.12 | phorce1 | thomas_adam: don't want to confuse her with having to close an xterm that got opened |
| 23:14.13 | thomas_adam | phorce1: Really... |
| 23:14.27 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: phorce1 ok I'm getting great ideas on how to solve this... I'll be back with the actuall computer, I don't have it now |
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| 23:14.46 | p5yop5 | phorce1: yeah XTERM would be too much for her... |
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| 23:14.59 | Le_Vert | j'en devient dingue |
| 23:15.02 | cddesjar | how do i edit the menu under windowmaker |
| 23:15.33 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: do you have by any chance any cool Grub Splash? |
| 23:15.36 | cddesjar | it's a different menu then my kde menu |
| 23:15.39 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Of course not. |
| 23:15.46 | challenged | cddesjar: which one? |
| 23:15.49 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: I use lilo, anyhow. |
| 23:15.52 | p5yop5 | I have GrubSpalsh with my Gentoo,, I don't know if that 's possible with Debian |
| 23:16.14 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: but the thing is that it's possible... |
| 23:16.16 | cddesjar | challenged: my menu i get when i left click the screen |
| 23:16.27 | challenged | cddesjar, the debian menu is one way the rest is your WM's way |
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| 23:16.34 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: I wouldn't worry about a splashscreen, if she can't handle an xterm, to be frank. Sheesh. |
| 23:16.35 | cddesjar | it's the debian menu |
| 23:16.45 | cddesjar | that's the one i need to edit! |
| 23:16.55 | challenged | cddesjar, man menu |
| 23:17.04 | cddesjar | ok |
| 23:17.11 | challenged | cddesjar, that is a program actually called menu hehe |
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| 23:17.26 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: do you have by any chance a graphical login with cool pictures? |
| 23:17.34 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: I use startx, so no. |
| 23:17.47 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: the thing is that I am setting it up for her... |
| 23:17.50 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Do you by any chance know how to use google to find some? |
| 23:17.55 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: I enjoy promoting linux... |
| 23:18.12 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: That's nice. |
| 23:18.32 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: yeah... now I am in CLI and it's not very pleasent experience to browse internet in this environment |
| 23:18.42 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: elinks is just fine. |
| 23:18.49 | cddesjar | still not sure about how to edit the menu however |
| 23:18.51 | thomas_adam | Install zgv, and it's even better. |
| 23:19.03 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: does elinks work with framebuffer? I have lynx here and doesn't |
| 23:19.06 | streuner | p5yop5: to tell you the truth, she should learn how to use her system.... |
| 23:19.11 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Uh huh. |
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| 23:19.18 | beardy | p5yop5: links -g |
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| 23:19.47 | p5yop5 | streuner: to tell you the truth I agree, after setting everything she forgot her password and didn't tell for weeks.. |
| 23:20.28 | cddesjar | argh..challenged can you give me another hint..of where the file is located? |
| 23:20.30 | p5yop5 | streuner: then I gave it to her again, couldn't login... then didn't know how to save a documnt on OO for XP format... and a bunch of other things |
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| 23:20.45 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: So install windows for her. |
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| 23:21.00 | p5yop5 | streuner: her solution was to buy a new computer with XP!! that broke my heart after all my hard work |
| 23:21.10 | streuner | thomas_adam: you know pretty well, you have to learn in every system |
| 23:21.16 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: I installed flux +Rox |
| 23:21.34 | thomas_adam | streuner: Yes, but it looks like this won't be happening for his friend. |
| 23:21.41 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: I see. |
| 23:21.55 | thomas_adam | p5yop5: Why not KDE or one of the other shit DEs, which are more windows like |
| 23:22.06 | p5yop5 | thomas_adam: but I'll manage to fix all this, so she'll have the best experience with Linux ;-) |
| 23:22.07 | [bono] | Question: Im looking for a sql database design tool (ideally a .deb) which would allow me to build tables, specify foreign keys, add fields, and generate sql create commands. Any suggestions? |
| 23:22.11 | p5yop5 | I am not giving up... |
| 23:22.20 | thomas_adam | [bono]: dia. |
| 23:22.38 | MinDUrBzns | how can I get info. about my video card, sound card..etc ? |
| 23:22.38 | FarrisG | Has anyone here ever successfully used devlabel before? It doesn't appear to do what it's supposed to |
| 23:22.44 | streuner | p5yop5: well, if somebody have NO interest about you can forget it then... |
| 23:22.44 | [bono] | thomas_adam: dia can generate sql CREATE commands? didnt know that! :-) thanks |
| 23:22.47 | FarrisG | It seems to ignore UUID |
| 23:22.49 | thomas_adam | [bono]: I believe there's a python script to convert it to SQL, but if you need to do it that way, you should just learn anout normalisation. |
| 23:22.57 | challenged | cddesjar, check in your home directory and /usr/lib/menu i think.....dpkg -L menu will show what paths it used....depending on what you want to do you may just need tgo run commands |
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| 23:23.19 | p5yop5 | streuner: I'll be back here when I get hold of her lappie, to work my $%@#% off... |
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| 23:23.43 | thorie | hello... i want to split a log file into multiple files based on a delimeter like ^From.*@.*%d%d%d%d$ -- how should I do this? a bash script would be ideal? |
| 23:23.52 | Kupal[] | someone apt-get install postfix-mysql lately, get using passwords NO in log file, but they are set in the .cf files? |
| 23:23.53 | MinDUrBzns | How can I get info about my hardware, especialy my video and sound card ? |
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| 23:24.02 | thomas_adam | MinDUrBzns: lspci |
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| 23:24.07 | MinDUrBzns | thanx |
| 23:24.09 | beardy | thomas_adam: man logrotate ? |
| 23:24.15 | beardy | sorry |
| 23:24.16 | thomas_adam | thorie: man csplit |
| 23:24.21 | beardy | thorie: man logrotate |
| 23:24.49 | thorie | ty |
| 23:24.58 | me_here | do any of you use gentoo besides debian ? |
| 23:25.09 | thomas_adam | me_here: The file manager? No. |
| 23:25.14 | p5yop5 | I use GEntoo!! |
| 23:25.31 | beardy | haha |
| 23:25.34 | Rockret | I made one big mess in my other computer. I deleted partition primary before extended. The partition were reisferfs, and now qpart is giving critical error. Anyone have one idea to fix that ? |
| 23:25.38 | p5yop5 | me_here: I use GEntoo |
| 23:25.39 | me_here | thomas_adam: nope, not the file manager, the other OS |
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| 23:25.47 | BlueShift | me_here: i used to... until i got tired of compiling. :p |
| 23:25.52 | streuner | me_here: ask a debian related question - gentoo questions are for #gentoo |
| 23:26.07 | crashbg | i will start directly: i have 2 nics for 2 isps working simultaniously and one nic for the internal network; i use iptables + iproute but can make them work at the same time |
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| 23:26.28 | p5yop5 | me_here: try Stage 1/3 installation... that's the best |
| 23:26.33 | crashbg | i have one default gateway provided by /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:26.44 | oklinux | any opion on libranet ? |
| 23:26.58 | MinDUrBzns | can anyone explain this to me, I tried to launch stellarium, : Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 23:26.59 | crashbg | because if i configure the second default gateway via the second NIC the first one stops working |
| 23:27.08 | me_here | streuner,Blueshift: i'm back on debian too, first of all, cause system is too slow and my personal feeling debian is very fast to install took just 2 hours to be in gnome and kde :) |
| 23:27.09 | Hikaru79 | Can someone take a look at this thread please? : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=336558 |
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| 23:27.41 | MinDUrBzns | sdl: Couldn't set 1024x768 video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual! |
| 23:27.55 | MinDUrBzns | what should I do ? |
| 23:27.59 | p5yop5 | me_here: I think compiling kills the hdd really fast... |
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| 23:28.46 | me_here | p5yop5: i think it kills my nerves ! |
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| 23:28.51 | me_here | lol |
| 23:28.54 | MinDUrBzns | anyone ? |
| 23:28.59 | p5yop5 | me_here: lol |
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| 23:29.01 | beardy | !anyone |
| 23:29.04 | *** mode/#debian [-q dpkg!*@*] by caphuso |
| 23:29.06 | oklinux | does any one know anything about libranet ? |
| 23:29.08 | *** mode/#debian [-o caphuso] by caphuso |
| 23:29.12 | MinDUrBzns | can anyone explain this to me, I tried to launch stellarium, : Xlib: extension "GLX" |
| 23:29.12 | MinDUrBzns | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.14 | beardy | !anyone |
| 23:29.14 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 23:29.20 | trave11er | Hikaru79: did you look in installation manual whether booting from a usb drive is at all supported? |
| 23:29.30 | Rockret | anyone know one software to remove partitions in harddisk ? |
| 23:29.31 | p5yop5 | damn!! this dpkg is immortal!!! |
| 23:29.47 | challenged | if my terminal screens are not translating the ansi lines etc for things like midnight commander is that locales or something else? |
| 23:29.59 | Hikaru79 | trave11er, you can boot Linux off a CD and a flash drive, why would it be unsupported for a usb external drive? |
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| 23:30.02 | p5yop5 | dpkg has been kicked out several times and still comes back... must be some type of Terminator class robot |
| 23:30.14 | MinDUrBzns | can anyone explain this to me, I tried to launch stellarium, : Xlib: extension "GLX" |
| 23:30.14 | MinDUrBzns | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.15 | streuner | hehe :-) |
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| 23:30.28 | beardy | !tell MinDUrBzns about repeat |
| 23:30.28 | MinDUrBzns | what is the problem ? |
| 23:30.40 | MinDUrBzns | ok |
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| 23:30.49 | trave11er | Hikaru79: i don't know. that's why i suggest to look through manual, to see if there is any relevant information. |
| 23:31.05 | MinDUrBzns | !GLX |
| 23:31.05 | dpkg | i guess glx is opengl for X. Currently, Matrox MGA-G200, MGA-G400, ATI Rage based cards, Intel i810 cards, and nvidia's RIVA series are supported. it can be grabbed from CVS at :mailto:pserver:anonymous@cvs.utah-glx.sourceforge.net:/cvs/utah-glx or at http://utah-glx.sourceforge.net, or ask me about `glx debs`, or included in XF4 nowadays and uses dri, so utah-glx is obsolete. |
| 23:31.19 | caphuso | oh damnit |
| 23:31.23 | zak | anyone know how to set language in a HD install of knoppix? i know knoppix != debian, but #knoppix seems very quiet... |
| 23:31.29 | trave11er | Hikaru79: if you will not find anything relevant, try sending a message to debian-boot@lists.d.o |
| 23:31.30 | MasterChief | How to I search apts |
| 23:31.31 | challenged | MinDUrBzns, apt-get install nvidia-glx maybe....are you nvidia? |
| 23:31.36 | subvertir | yeah... that factoid was relevant back in the X 4.0.1 days |
| 23:31.42 | MasterChief | I tried apt-cache search apt |
| 23:31.44 | beardy | zak: Ask #knoppix, this is #debian. |
| 23:31.49 | subvertir | now it's just silly - does _anyone_ use utah-glx now? |
| 23:32.06 | zak | beardy: i just explained why i didnt get a response in #knoppix... |
| 23:32.09 | MinDUrBzns | this is mine : VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device |
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| 23:32.24 | beardy | zak: Bad exscuse. |
| 23:32.24 | subvertir | MinDUrBzns, that's probably not supported by the DRI. because it sucks. |
| 23:32.29 | Hikaru79 | According to the Debian manual: Generally, the Debian installation system includes support for floppies, IDE drives, IDE floppies, parallel port IDE devices, SCSI controllers and drives, USB, and FireWire. The file systems supported include FAT, Win-32 FAT extensions (VFAT), and NTFS, among others. |
| 23:32.33 | MasterChief | Any one? |
| 23:32.34 | Hikaru79 | So it definetly sounds like it should be supported |
| 23:32.40 | MinDUrBzns | ouch |
| 23:32.45 | Hikaru79 | But it doesn't expand on where I should put the bootloader. I'll keep looking. |
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| 23:33.01 | WiFiTux | b/wc |
| 23:33.01 | subvertir | MinDUrBzns, if you want decent 3D performance go pick up any ATI or Nvidia card |
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| 23:33.11 | zak | beardy: ok, suppose i was lying that this was knoppix, and it is now really debian. how do i set the language? |
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| 23:33.13 | subvertir | they're cheap as hell, it's not worth the trouble messing with anything else |
| 23:33.14 | beardy | zak: dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 23:33.15 | MasterChief | Someone please help me. |
| 23:33.22 | challenged | MinDUrBzns, it's not a 3d card matey...its a basic office style card barely does directX |
| 23:33.23 | MinDUrBzns | so what are the best video and sound cards supported? i will buy new ones.. |
| 23:33.40 | streuner | Hikaru79: usually on the first HD on your system... |
| 23:33.42 | trave11er | MasterChief: apt-cache search keyword |
| 23:33.56 | subvertir | Yeah, in inclusion to being out of date the factoid doesn't include a concise description of what the GLX actually is |
| 23:34.00 | subvertir | just ixnay that shiznit |
| 23:34.03 | streuner | Hikaru79: thats the place where bootloaders usually should live... |
| 23:34.05 | Hikaru79 | streuner, that's the thing, though. I want this USB drive to be bootable from anywhere. If I put the bootloader on hda1, then it will only boot on my computer. |
| 23:34.08 | zak | beardy: thanks, i guess knoppix differs there tho [d'oh!] cus it wont work for me :) |
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| 23:34.24 | Hikaru79 | I want to put it on the USB drive itself so that I can boot it from any computer that can boot from USB in its BIOS |
| 23:34.31 | challenged | MasterChief, apt-cache search FOO |
| 23:34.41 | Wyzard | MinDUrBzns: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and make sure the GLX extension is enabled... GL should still be available, though without hardware acceleration it'll be very slow |
| 23:34.51 | Hikaru79 | Sort of like a LiveCD or Live flash drive |
| 23:34.58 | Hikaru79 | Except ... a live external usb mass storage device :P |
| 23:35.09 | directhex | i865 onboard (intel extreme 2) is a bad joke |
| 23:35.10 | MinDUrBzns | i have Xorg |
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| 23:35.14 | MinDUrBzns | whow should it be |
| 23:35.18 | directhex | especially on xfree86 4.3 |
| 23:35.19 | Wyzard | MinDUrBzns: xorg isn't in Debian |
| 23:35.21 | beardy | zak: Install sarge insteat. |
| 23:35.25 | directhex | MinDUrBzns, what linux distro do you run? |
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| 23:37.51 | zak | beardy: not an option. im on dialup, that and knoppix seems fine [until everything went german] |
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| 23:38.15 | subvertir | germany would be such a nice country if it weren't for all those germans |
| 23:38.17 | subvertir | mein taterhosen! |
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| 23:38.46 | catalyst4000` | hmmph |
| 23:38.50 | K_Dallas | Q: I have added a kde repos to my file and now when i upgrade, it keeps almost all the packages back. How should i force the upgrade? thanks |
| 23:38.55 | ttick | in debian, is there a prefered place to put in little local things that need to run at bootup, something like an rc.local or something? (need to do a mobprobe or two to start sound working) |
| 23:38.59 | streuner | subvertir: tell that some german woman! ;-) |
| 23:39.08 | catalyst4000` | anyone have any suggestions on getting framebuffer to work with the binary nvidia driver |
| 23:39.13 | caphuso | ttick: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 23:39.24 | caphuso | catalyst4000`: don't |
| 23:39.29 | catalyst4000` | I've been surching with no luck :( |
| 23:39.34 | beardy | zak: Buy a dvd or cd set from somewhere in your country. http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 23:40.00 | directhex | ttick, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
| 23:40.08 | subvertir | streuner, if I went to germany I'd scream 'mein taterhosen' out of the window of my car |
| 23:40.20 | catalyst4000` | caphuso: don't as in do not even try, it's useless? |
| 23:40.27 | subvertir | to accurately represent the southern united states |
| 23:40.28 | ttick | chaph thanks |
| 23:40.28 | ttick | caphuso: hmm, no response. |
| 23:40.31 | caphuso | catalyst4000`: won't work |
| 23:40.42 | catalyst4000` | eh |
| 23:40.44 | zak | with GRUB, should initrd be a kernel arg, or is it handled by grub? reworded: should it be "kernel /vmlinuz initrd="blehh""? |
| 23:40.44 | caphuso | ttick: learn how to use your IRC client |
| 23:40.50 | streuner | subvertir: Lederhosen ! |
| 23:40.51 | challenged | K_Dallas: do you want them all upgraded? |
| 23:41.02 | ttick | caphuso: yeah, sorry, kinda new to IRC (if you can believe it). |
| 23:41.19 | K_Dallas | well i want to get at least the core of the new kde so i cold install kolab |
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| 23:41.35 | ttick | caphuso: heh, dpkg was just a little slow, I guess. |
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| 23:42.01 | challenged | !pinning |
| 23:42.02 | dpkg | [apt-pinning] 'man apt_preferences', or add testing and unstable lines to sources.list, create /etc/apt/preferences containing "Package: *nPin: release a=testingnPin-Priority: 900n\nPackage: *nPin: release o=DebiannPin-Priority: -10n", then apt-get install foo/unstable, or http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/mail#1 or http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 23:42.15 | K_Dallas | challenged, that was for me, right? |
| 23:42.39 | challenged | K_Dallas, there a pinning howto in a factoid let me just call out to the gods |
| 23:42.49 | K_Dallas | ok, thanks |
| 23:42.52 | challenged | d_dallas last link was good for me yesterday im mixing unstable and etch sources |
| 23:43.05 | K_Dallas | i see, thanks |
| 23:43.10 | challenged | K_Dallas, np just learnt it myself ehhe |
| 23:43.20 | K_Dallas | :) that is why this chan is so great |
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| 23:46.30 | error403 | on a really old machine (AMD k6), should i run a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 23:47.07 | bobbens | error403: i run a 2.6.10 kernel on a pentium pro :P |
| 23:47.12 | error403 | ok |
| 23:47.17 | error403 | cool |
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| 23:47.26 | caphuso | error403: the amount of RAM is more important |
| 23:47.33 | akbg | my cyrix p166+ run with a 2.4 kernel :P |
| 23:47.37 | error403 | erm, on the netinstal, whats the parameter for 2.6 kernel? |
| 23:47.43 | akbg | linux26 |
| 23:47.49 | spoop | how much ram should you have |
| 23:47.53 | error403 | thats the one! |
| 23:47.54 | rr72 | how do i set up sharing x? like i want to run an X program over ssh |
| 23:47.55 | error403 | thanks.... |
| 23:47.55 | catalyst4000` | 4GB |
| 23:48.01 | error403 | i have 128MB of RAM on this |
| 23:48.01 | akbg | de nada |
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| 23:48.06 | error403 | and a 333MHz k6 |
| 23:48.08 | catalyst4000` | that's how much I should have :) |
| 23:48.16 | catalyst4000` | but I don't :( |
| 23:48.43 | FarrisG | when a usb hard drive is plugged in, there is SYSFS info for both the USB bus device and the SCSI bus device. Is there anyway to write a udev rule for the scsi device referencing SYSFS info from the usb bus? |
| 23:49.13 | challenged | catalyst: you may need turn on 4GB memory in the kernel... |
| 23:49.25 | challenged | catalyst4000`, ^^^ |
| 23:49.27 | hikenboot | ok i know this isnt the group for it...where is there an irc channel for sun sparc stations? |
| 23:49.51 | catalyst4000` | oh... it's not a kernel limitation for me... it's a monetary limitation |
| 23:50.05 | error403 | i know the feeling catalyst4000` |
| 23:50.19 | trave11er | hikenboot: there is #debian-sparc... |
| 23:50.24 | hikenboot | thanks! |
| 23:50.28 | trave11er | hikenboot: it's not awfully active though |
| 23:50.29 | rr72 | excuse me |
| 23:50.39 | catalyst4000` | i spend too much money on other things and neglect my poor poor computer... |
| 23:50.42 | hikenboot | well i have simple sparc install questions |
| 23:50.42 | trave11er | hikenboot: what's the problem? |
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| 23:50.52 | error403 | erm, i have the netinstaller stuck in an infinite loop... think maybe i need the 2.4 kernel?> |
| 23:50.56 | trave11er | hikenboot: shoot |
| 23:51.06 | catalyst4000` | my poor poor P4 3.0ghz, 512mb computer |
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| 23:51.11 | HanClinto | I installed the package "xserver-xfree86", but when I type "startx", it doesn't know what I'm talking about. What package must be installed in order to run xserver? |
| 23:51.11 | hikenboot | hit stop-a then type boot cd then it asks me for [cd] |
| 23:51.23 | hikenboot | tying to install sarge on it |
| 23:51.25 | bobbens | HanClinto: x-window-system-core |
| 23:51.32 | directhex | HanClinto, x-window-system-core |
| 23:51.33 | trave11er | hikenboot: hm, asks for what? |
| 23:51.34 | error403 | catalyst4000`, i always say that a P4 is an expensive heating device... |
| 23:51.40 | catalyst4000` | yeah... it is |
| 23:51.40 | resiak | !faq HanClinto |
| 23:51.41 | hikenboot | [cd] |
| 23:51.41 | dpkg | HanClinto: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 23:51.43 | trave11er | hikenboot: boot cd should start booting |
| 23:51.46 | catalyst4000` | i was very upset with this |
| 23:51.51 | catalyst4000` | i should've stuck with AMD |
| 23:51.57 | hikenboot | nope it doesnt wondering if i have to burn image differnently |
| 23:51.59 | error403 | hehe |
| 23:52.03 | HanClinto | Thx all -- sry for not checking the FAQ |
| 23:52.05 | hikenboot | burning it on a pc |
| 23:52.11 | hikenboot | using debian and k3b |
| 23:52.14 | catalyst4000` | prescHOTT |
| 23:52.15 | HanClinto | But thankyou -- I was searching for "xserver", not "x-server" |
| 23:52.17 | trave11er | hikenboot: i usually burn with speed=4 for sparc |
| 23:52.24 | error403 | catalyst4000`, im running a Sempron 2200, 1.5GHz oc'ed to 1.7 ghz |
| 23:52.31 | hikenboot | i tried it on 1x |
| 23:52.39 | trave11er | hikenboot: should be fine |
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| 23:52.43 | hikenboot | still same thing |
| 23:52.44 | trave11er | hikenboot: what machine, what image? |
| 23:52.44 | error403 | and it outperforms P4's up to about 2.8 GHz |
| 23:52.52 | catalyst4000` | well, after the extra money spent on aftermarket cooling, im not doing to bad |
| 23:52.58 | catalyst4000` | but that was added expenses |
| 23:53.01 | directhex | 3800+ athlon 64, 2gb ram, geforce 6800 gt, 20.1" tft |
| 23:53.11 | error403 | catalyst4000`, watercooling? |
| 23:53.15 | catalyst4000` | noooo |
| 23:53.23 | catalyst4000` | heat pipes |
| 23:53.25 | error403 | directhex, where you live so i can steal your rig? |
| 23:53.34 | hikenboot | debian-testing-sparc-netinst.iso |
| 23:53.43 | catalyst4000` | and I still hit 60+ during kernel compiles |
| 23:53.51 | catalyst4000` | thank you Intel, or Untel |
| 23:53.52 | trave11er | hikenboot: hm, why don't you just try sarge? |
| 23:53.54 | directhex | plus, we get our new hardware tomorrow at work |
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| 23:54.15 | hikenboot | well I wanted the people buying them to have 2.6 kernel |
| 23:54.17 | error403 | catalyst4000`, my sempron is idling at 55 at the moment ... fucking summer... |
| 23:54.32 | catalyst4000` | im sitting at 42 |
| 23:54.39 | directhex | catalyst4000`, you should have researched your purchase a little better. as it stands, intel have the highest IPC lowest heat x86 part on the market, in pentuim-m |
| 23:54.41 | trave11er | hikenboot: there is currently no sparc installer media with 2.6 kernel |
| 23:54.55 | hikenboot | oh i see i thought testing was on 2.6 |
| 23:55.00 | trave11er | hikenboot: well, you can netboot a 2.6 image |
| 23:55.14 | error403 | heh |
| 23:55.21 | catalyst4000` | directhex: bought the preschott during the "hype" faze |
| 23:55.24 | trave11er | hikenboot: you can install sarge and then upgrade the kernel to 2.6 |
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| 23:55.32 | hikenboot | hmm saw somthing about tftp for it |
| 23:55.46 | error403 | catalyst4000`, hyperthreading not what its cracked up to be? |
| 23:55.47 | directhex | catalyst4000`, i wasn't aware of a hype phase, it was outperformed by northwood in almost every benchmark |
| 23:55.51 | hikenboot | cis there a ftp image that you can just boot to for sparc? |
| 23:55.56 | error403 | hmm |
| 23:56.01 | error403 | does Prescott have HT? |
| 23:56.04 | error403 | i cant remember |
| 23:56.05 | catalyst4000` | yeah |
| 23:56.06 | error403 | i dont have one.. |
| 23:56.07 | error403 | :P |
| 23:56.09 | trave11er | hikenboot: yes |
| 23:56.20 | catalyst4000` | its a horrid processor |
| 23:56.27 | hikenboot | I saw nothing on debian site about this...can you pass me a link? |
| 23:56.27 | error403 | heh |
| 23:56.35 | error403 | catalyst4000`, you know what you should do... |
| 23:56.42 | error403 | underclock it, run it as a silent server |
| 23:56.43 | error403 | :P |
| 23:56.45 | catalyst4000` | ha |
| 23:56.51 | trave11er | hikenboot: http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 23:56.59 | Guerin | error403: you'll have about 6.1G left over |
| 23:57.07 | trave11er | hikenboot: and check out http://wiki.debian.net/?SparcInstallationNotes |
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| 23:57.18 | error403 | Guerin, i know.... im then installing apache, php and mysql on it... |
| 23:57.18 | error403 | :D |
| 23:57.19 | catalyst4000` | i could donate my system to the homeless, provided they find an outlet, they'll survive any winter |
| 23:57.30 | hikenboot | thanks |
| 23:57.53 | asker | when i list files in a directory i want to get only names of files |
| 23:57.56 | asker | how can i do this ? |
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| 23:58.05 | error403 | holy shit - i swear my debian install just said "Extracting spaghetti" |
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| 23:58.16 | trave11er | asker: but not directories? |
| 23:58.20 | directhex | !info spaghetti |
| 23:58.23 | asker | trave11er directories too |
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| 23:58.29 | trave11er | asker: ls? |
| 23:58.39 | asker | trave11er but i need to get it like a column |
| 23:58.42 | directhex | dpkg Package 'spaghetti' does not exist. |
| 23:58.45 | trave11er | asker: ls -1 |
| 23:58.48 | asker | when i write "ls -l" it show |
| 23:58.49 | asker | hmm |
| 23:58.56 | asker | thanks |
| 23:59.27 | error403 | hmm |
| 23:59.31 | error403 | maybe im just too tired.. |
| 23:59.53 | challenged | YAY some spammer in aus got busted....56 million emails in 1 year...... |
