| 00:00.07 | masoft | anyone who have Sarge can share /etc/init.d for me with ftp to get my needed files ?! postfix, etc |
| 00:00.39 | rbochan | O_o |
| 00:01.17 | PerfDave | masoft: Uhm, if you install postfix with apt-get, it will put all the files it needs in for you. |
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| 00:03.06 | masoft | PerfDave, I get this error after apt-get install postfix : update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/postfix: file does not exist |
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| 00:03.37 | hvega | hola |
| 00:03.56 | hvega | any people speak spanish |
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| 00:04.46 | dextroso | hi all |
| 00:04.49 | hvega | i have one dude before instalation of impresora |
| 00:04.51 | hvega | hi |
| 00:04.53 | masoft | PerfDave, can you share it for me ? |
| 00:04.59 | mihaly | hvega: http://babelfish.altavista.com/ |
| 00:05.10 | rbochan | !es |
| 00:05.10 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:05.22 | PerfDave | masoft: I don't use postfix. |
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| 00:05.53 | PerfDave | masoft: This isn't the first time you've installed postfix, is it? |
| 00:05.57 | hvega | como me conecto a debian es |
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| 00:06.25 | PerfDave | hvega: Type "/join #debian-es" into your IRC client |
| 00:06.28 | mihaly | hvega: type /j debian-es |
| 00:06.28 | masoft | PerfDave, no, I think some persons installed it before ... and remove it after ! |
| 00:06.50 | PerfDave | masoft: apt-get --purge --reinstall install postfix |
| 00:07.02 | hvega | Type / j debian.es |
| 00:07.09 | mihaly | lol |
| 00:07.11 | hvega | en donde lo typeo |
| 00:07.18 | FriXteR | can some one help me whit a scsi-raid kernel so i can install? |
| 00:07.24 | masoft | PerfDave, I got this problem again ! |
| 00:07.46 | mihaly | FriXteR: hardware raid isn't managed by debian |
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| 00:08.25 | green_earz | FriXteR: check out the debian raid1 howto > http://nepotismia.com/debian/raidinstall/ |
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| 00:08.53 | PerfDave | !tell masoft -about msg |
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| 00:09.12 | FriXteR | the problem is that i need drivers so i can find my raid disk |
| 00:09.31 | PerfDave | FriXteR: Which version of Debian are you trying to install, what RAID controller do you have? |
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| 00:10.39 | FriXteR | i havent tried to install debian but i have tryed whit slackware |
| 00:11.13 | v0L7r[-]n | Ok whats woth my runlevel 3. I tried running ./init 3 and ./telinit 3 in /sbin and there not working. Just like how runlevel 5 is runlevel 2 in Debian, What would run level 3 be ? |
| 00:11.24 | PerfDave | FriXteR: If you're not trying to install Debian, #debian is not the right place to ask questions. Try #slackware. |
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| 00:11.57 | pfizur | Good evening all. Anyone bored enough to help me out with a question regarding boot problems with Sarge on PowerMac 8600? |
| 00:12.07 | resiak | !ppc |
| 00:12.07 | dpkg | ppc is, like, short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc, or not going to be used by Apple much longer |
| 00:12.31 | masoft | doesn't anyone here /etc/init.d/postfix who can share it for me ? |
| 00:12.37 | drgreen | How do i reconfigure my keyboard? |
| 00:12.43 | pfizur | duely noted, thank ye |
| 00:12.47 | FriXteR | i know but im thinkin of install it.. but i'll try #slackware is it on efnet? |
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| 00:13.15 | drgreen | My keyboard on this laptop doesnt work, but i can ssh in from my other pc |
| 00:13.18 | PerfDave | drgreen: In what way do you want to reconfigure it? |
| 00:13.28 | deadcat | drgreen: problem solved |
| 00:13.37 | PerfDave | FriXteR: There may be a #slackware on efnet. There's probably one here on Freenode too. |
| 00:13.40 | masoft | FriXteR, Slackware is a great distro ;) even though they will drop gnome |
| 00:13.56 | drgreen | deadcat: no, i want to use my laptop's keyboard! |
| 00:13.57 | PerfDave | FriXteR: I'd recommend installing Debian though, it's been pretty happy with any hardware RAID I've thrown at it. |
| 00:14.02 | PerfDave | drgreen: In what way "doesn't work"? |
| 00:14.18 | drgreen | PerfDave: I type keys, nothing happens, capslock doesnt work etc |
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| 00:14.41 | deadcat | drgreen: then you have a fucked keyboard. |
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| 00:14.51 | drgreen | It works fine in windoze |
| 00:14.55 | puff | Anybody familiar with tiger? |
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| 00:14.59 | FriXteR | but how do i get support for ibm ServeRAID 2 |
| 00:15.01 | wwallace | hello to all |
| 00:15.04 | deadcat | drgreen: what about console? |
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| 00:15.09 | PerfDave | drgreen: How did you install SSH? |
| 00:15.09 | wwallace | can anyone help with this error? |
| 00:15.17 | PerfDave | FriXteR: Ask IBM? :) |
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| 00:15.29 | PerfDave | !tell wwallace about ask |
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| 00:15.33 | resiak | puff: Tiger as in Mac OS X? Why are you asking on #debian? |
| 00:15.34 | drgreen | PerfDave: I installed using vmware |
| 00:15.44 | PerfDave | drgreen: Within Windows? |
| 00:15.44 | wwallace | root@mp3j:/home/wwallace/XMMS-Info-2.0.6# ./xmms-info.pl |
| 00:15.44 | wwallace | Undefined subroutine &IRC::register called at ./xmms-info.pl line 8. |
| 00:15.44 | wwallace | root@mp3j:/home/wwallace/XMMS-Info-2.0 |
| 00:15.45 | masoft | wwallace, what's that ? |
| 00:15.53 | drgreen | PerfDave: yeah |
| 00:15.57 | deadcat | puff: i think hes playing golf as of this moment |
| 00:16.07 | PerfDave | drgreen: So your keyboard doesn't work in Debian running in vmware in Windows? |
| 00:16.10 | wwallace | its one of those scripts that tells people what you listening to |
| 00:16.20 | resiak | wwallace: Install the IRC.pm module? |
| 00:16.25 | wwallace | how? |
| 00:16.28 | FriXteR | ibm dosent suppport the pc server 330 any more |
| 00:16.31 | drgreen | My keyboard works in vmware, but when i boot the partion it doesnt |
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| 00:16.38 | puff | resiak: tiger as in the debian apt package tiger. |
| 00:16.44 | PerfDave | drgreen: Sounds like a vmware problem, not a Debian problem. |
| 00:16.46 | wwallace | apt-get install IRC.pm? |
| 00:16.53 | resiak | puff: Oh, my bad. |
| 00:16.56 | resiak | wwallace: No. |
| 00:17.02 | wwallace | how? |
| 00:17.03 | rbochan | drgreen: are you using kdm by chance? |
| 00:17.12 | deadcat | drgreen: time for a new laptop |
| 00:17.12 | PerfDave | wwallace: How did you install that xmms-info script? |
| 00:17.15 | drgreen | No, X isnt installed |
| 00:17.29 | wwallace | i have not installe it yet im getting an error |
| 00:17.31 | deadcat | drgreen: time for an apple laptop |
| 00:17.34 | wwallace | root@mp3j:/home/wwallace/XMMS-Info-2.0.6# ./xmms-info.pl |
| 00:17.34 | wwallace | Undefined subroutine &IRC::register called at ./xmms-info.pl line 8. |
| 00:17.34 | wwallace | root@mp3j:/home/wwallace/XMMS-Info-2.0 |
| 00:17.37 | drgreen | it worked fine in slackware =[ |
| 00:17.43 | PerfDave | wwallace: Please don't paste the same error over and over again. |
| 00:17.43 | deadcat | drgreen: go bak to slack |
| 00:17.43 | puff | tiger got stuck trying to run find through a user's very large Maildir. Now we have about eight tiger processes still running, and not responding to kill. |
| 00:17.48 | wwallace | sorry |
| 00:18.03 | PerfDave | wwallace: Maybe you're getting an error because you haven't installed it yet? :) |
| 00:18.07 | drgreen | deadcat: no i want debian |
| 00:18.08 | masoft | drgreen, everything work fine in Slackware :P |
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| 00:18.17 | dondelelcaro | puff: if they're in D, they won't respond to kill. |
| 00:18.23 | wwallace | thats what im tryng to do install it |
| 00:18.33 | deadcat | drgreen: well debian doesnt seem to play nice on your laptop.. |
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| 00:18.36 | wwallace | i decompress the tar went to the dir |
| 00:18.42 | puff | dondelelcaro: In D? |
| 00:18.51 | PerfDave | wwallace: Are you following the installation instructions? |
| 00:18.51 | drgreen | deadcat: it boots fine, just the keyboard doesnt work |
| 00:18.52 | dondelelcaro | puff: uninteruptible iosleep |
| 00:19.03 | deadcat | drgreen: ibm laptop right? |
| 00:19.03 | wwallace | and since the docs are in germany and i dont understand and theres a aperl script i tried to run to install |
| 00:19.09 | puff | wwallace: You install perl packages via perl's internal package manager, perl -MCPAN |
| 00:19.13 | drgreen | deadcat: hp pavilion |
| 00:19.14 | puff | dondelelcaro: Ouch, fun. |
| 00:19.16 | PerfDave | puff: No you don't. |
| 00:19.25 | resiak | puff: No, y... Damn you PerfDave ! |
| 00:19.28 | puff | PerfDave: You don't? |
| 00:19.40 | puff | Did the perl crowd finally ditch MCPAN? |
| 00:19.50 | PerfDave | puff: No, you use dh-make-perl to make libfoo-perl packages, so you don't trash apt. |
| 00:20.00 | resiak | !dh-make-perl |
| 00:20.00 | dpkg | hmm... dh-make-perl is a packaged script that converts Perl modules snagged from CPAN into .deb archives. You get to use CPAN archives, Debian's dependencies stay in one piece, everybody's happy. Find more information at http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/dh-make-perl.html |
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| 00:20.22 | puff | PerfDave: Oh, that loks cool as hell, yeah. |
| 00:20.37 | puff | PerfDave: Danke. I always hated that about perl on debian. |
| 00:20.51 | wwallace | errr? |
| 00:21.01 | dondelelcaro | "hated it?" |
| 00:21.16 | dondelelcaro | yeesh. dh-make-perl is one of the best parts about perl on Debian. |
| 00:22.03 | hvega | how configure ny impresora hp 1315 |
| 00:22.08 | wwallace | so no fix for my problem? |
| 00:22.27 | hvega | hi |
| 00:22.53 | hvega | dondelecaro |
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| 00:23.02 | dondelelcaro | wwallace: that script is fundamentally broken. Running a script that calls subroutines like that is a fundamentally bad idea. |
| 00:23.12 | hvega | hola dondelelcaro |
| 00:23.23 | wwallace | is there a deb that can do that? |
| 00:23.28 | dondelelcaro | wwallace: do what? |
| 00:23.44 | felesh | hvega, #debian-es |
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| 00:24.00 | GoatRoby | rbochan: Babbage: Thanks, by writing an init script i got my commands to run at boot |
| 00:24.01 | wwallace | like in amorak thers a script that if i typed in xchat /amarok it lets the people know what i am listening |
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| 00:24.09 | rbochan | GoatRoby: right on |
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| 00:24.46 | PerfDave | wwallace: Do you mean "amarok"? :) |
| 00:24.51 | puff | dondelelcaro: No, no, I always hated the fact that perl's package manager didn't play nice with debian's package manager. |
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| 00:24.57 | wwallace | hvega: localhost:631 ? |
| 00:25.06 | dondelelcaro | puff: it does if you use dh-make-perl |
| 00:25.20 | hvega | hi walllece |
| 00:25.33 | wwallace | hvega: hi |
| 00:26.08 | hvega | i have ploblem whit my impresorta hp |
| 00:26.18 | hvega | dont imprime |
| 00:26.19 | wwallace | hvega: localhost:631 ? |
| 00:26.24 | wwallace | oh sorry |
| 00:26.28 | hvega | knoppix |
| 00:26.33 | wwallace | i thought u were installing |
| 00:26.38 | wwallace | ha! |
| 00:26.39 | PerfDave | hvega: #knoppix |
| 00:26.42 | dondelelcaro | hvega: if you're using knoppix, ask #knoppix. |
| 00:26.44 | hvega | yes |
| 00:26.44 | wwallace | i knew it |
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| 00:27.24 | hvega | dont have you help me |
| 00:27.36 | wwallace | you wont have too much luck in that #knoppix channel |
| 00:27.40 | wwallace | noone talks |
| 00:27.44 | wwallace | once in a while |
| 00:27.46 | hvega | i sorry my english dont is good |
| 00:27.52 | wwallace | what do u speak? |
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| 00:27.57 | deadcat | wwallace: because they dont know what to do |
| 00:28.08 | wwallace | #debian-es |
| 00:28.09 | hvega | thack you |
| 00:28.17 | wwallace | i think greenfly |
| 00:28.18 | deadcat | hvega: #knoppix-es |
| 00:28.21 | wwallace | is preety good |
| 00:28.24 | wwallace | also dogboy |
| 00:28.26 | wwallace | is good |
| 00:28.33 | wwallace | only they rarely there |
| 00:28.34 | dondelelcaro | wwallace: lay off the enter key, please. |
| 00:28.35 | resiak | !tell wwallace -about enter |
| 00:28.35 | PerfDave | hvega: If you're using Knoppix, then #debian and #debian-es can not help you, because you are not using Debian. |
| 00:28.35 | deadcat | !tell wwallace about enter |
| 00:28.40 | wwallace | the names are they are not |
| 00:28.46 | wwallace | oops |
| 00:28.48 | wwallace | sorry |
| 00:28.53 | timvw | ls |
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| 00:32.39 | PerfDave | Cor, it's all gone quiet now :) |
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| 00:32.55 | rbochan | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 00:32.59 | rbochan | better? |
| 00:33.03 | dob1 | hi, i use xfs-xtt as font server, in the configuration file i have commented a line that contains a directory with some fonts, i have restarted the font server but when i use some program (for example abiword etc) i see always these fonts, why? |
| 00:33.33 | rbochan | dob1: there's a cache flush command, but I can't remember what it is as the moment |
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| 00:34.24 | dob1 | rbochan: yes i remember too a font - cache command but i don't remembrer the name |
| 00:34.34 | chaps0063 | any recommendations for php/css editing? |
| 00:34.36 | rbochan | I used to have to run it after updating kdm |
| 00:35.04 | PerfDave | chaps0063: Use perl ;) |
| 00:35.17 | rbochan | dob1: fc-cache -f -v ? |
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| 00:35.27 | chaps0063 | PerfDave: :-) |
| 00:35.31 | Pioto | chaps0063, i like bluefish, emacs... |
| 00:35.43 | rbochan | dob1: that should do it |
| 00:36.09 | light_punch2 | what's debian's kernel version? 2.4.27? |
| 00:36.20 | chaps0063 | Pioto: nice, I will look into bluefish. |
| 00:36.22 | deadcat | light_punch2: apt-cache search kernel-image |
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| 00:36.59 | lars^ | Does anybody know if there is made a un-officiel .deb of vmware? |
| 00:37.04 | deadcat | no |
| 00:37.15 | Pioto | i'm trying to figure out where the MAIL environment variable is set on a debian system... |
| 00:37.17 | rbochan | wouldn't it still cost $300? |
| 00:37.20 | PerfDave | lars^: If there is one, it's probably illegal :) |
| 00:37.21 | deadcat | lars^: vmware cost $$$ |
| 00:37.26 | Pioto | i can't seem to find it in /etc/profile, or anything like that |
| 00:37.30 | darkheart | Hello, I've recently installed Debian and everything was working great, however, my sound seems broke now =\ Anyone mind guiding me through a bit of troubleshooting? |
| 00:37.51 | deadcat | Pioto: grep -r MAIL /etc/* |
| 00:37.53 | PerfDave | darkheart: In what way does your "sound seem broke"? |
| 00:37.54 | light_punch2 | deadcat, slackware is on 2.4.29, but release in feb2005, debian on 2.4.27 release on june2005 |
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| 00:37.58 | Pioto | deadcat: tried that... |
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| 00:38.06 | deadcat | light_punch2: i dont need to know |
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| 00:38.18 | mfrisch | I keep getting a inconsistent kallsyms data when I compile what am I doing wrong> |
| 00:38.19 | chaps0063 | how do I get (in gnome) a panel to show what my current cpu speed is? |
| 00:38.29 | PerfDave | light_punch2: Debian also has 2.6 kernels. |
| 00:38.43 | v0L7r[-]n | Ok so I cannot reboot into runlevel 3 either. What is it that needs to be done. |
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| 00:38.59 | lars^ | deadcat: what should i use instead of vmware?, is there some opensource projetcs like it? |
| 00:39.05 | rbochan | v0L7r[-]n: man inittab |
| 00:39.07 | deadcat | Pioto: /etc/login.defs |
| 00:39.07 | light_punch2 | deadcat, all i am saying is debian should be on 2.4.29 or something since it's a later release. PerfDave , no just leave out the 2.6 kernel for now. |
| 00:39.08 | darkheart | PerfDave, Trying to load up the volume control produces an error saying there are no mixers/devices. I've tried both OSS and ALSA for xmms but they produce errors when I try to play a song as well. |
| 00:39.17 | deadcat | lars^: qemu |
| 00:39.20 | rbochan | light_punch2: why should it? |
| 00:39.24 | PerfDave | lars^: Either purchase VMWare, or use bochs, qemu or something similar. |
| 00:39.25 | v0L7r[-]n | ok I'll check it out |
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| 00:39.37 | PerfDave | darkheart: And it worked before? What changed? |
| 00:39.40 | deadcat | light_punch2: stop bitching |
| 00:39.42 | light_punch2 | rbochan, i am just comparing the 2.4 kernels. |
| 00:39.52 | PerfDave | light_punch2: Why "should it" be using 2.4.29? |
| 00:40.02 | Pioto | deadcat: oh, thanks... i guess it isn't set explicitly [i searched on MAIL=] |
| 00:40.03 | Rambo3 | sidenet s wine script is good |
| 00:40.25 | light_punch2 | PerfDave, i think 2.4.29 is the lastest stable for 2.4 |
| 00:40.43 | mfrisch | I keep getting a inconsistent kallsyms data when I compile a kernel what am I doing wrong> |
| 00:40.48 | darkheart | PerfDave, yes, it worked before. Honestly, I can't recall messing with anything to do related with sound. I deleted my user account then added it again...but I don't think that's relevent. |
| 00:40.57 | deadcat | light_punch2: you think ? why dont you check kernel.org |
| 00:40.58 | resiak | adduser you sound ? |
| 00:41.06 | PerfDave | darkheart: Uhm, is your user account in the "audio" group? :) |
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| 00:41.12 | masoft | I will get this after write : apt-get install mysql : E: Package mysql has no installation candidate |
| 00:41.14 | resiak | !lart me |
| 00:41.21 | resiak | !tell masoft -about search |
| 00:41.29 | light_punch2 | deadcat, it's 2.4.31 |
| 00:41.44 | deadcat | light_punch2: i dont need to knnow. what the fuck. |
| 00:41.56 | PerfDave | light_punch2: *shrug* 2.4.27 is the version that got into Debian 3.1, because of the way Debian's release process works. Now 3.1 has released, no newer kernels will go in. |
| 00:42.06 | light_punch2 | deadcat, choose not to know then |
| 00:42.12 | rbochan | yawn |
| 00:42.20 | deadcat | light_punch2: no because i cant cehck myself and i know. |
| 00:42.23 | dondelelcaro | most likely, anyway. |
| 00:42.31 | rixth | http://pastebin.com/314708 Okay, I'm still getting that error, but dig gmail.com mx works fine now. |
| 00:42.33 | puff | dondelelcaro: So it doesn't respond to kill, it doesn't respond to killing its parent... any suggestions? |
| 00:42.46 | dondelelcaro | puff: it won't respond until whatever it is returns. |
| 00:42.56 | dob1 | rbochan: yes the command is this but i don't understan it continue to read that line with these fonts |
| 00:42.58 | dondelelcaro | puff: there's nothing to be done about it but wait. |
| 00:42.59 | darkheart | PerfDave *grin* I didn't realize that was a requirement. I was not, and have just added myself. |
| 00:43.02 | puff | dondelelcaro: Well, short of rebooting the box, what can I do? |
| 00:43.02 | puff | Hm. |
| 00:43.02 | puff | Okay. |
| 00:43.13 | puff | I mv'd the directory out of there and started tarring it. |
| 00:43.17 | puff | Not sure what implications that has. |
| 00:43.18 | PerfDave | darkheart: You'll need to log out and log back in again. |
| 00:43.20 | rbochan | dob1: have you restarted the font server? |
| 00:43.35 | puff | Of course, that's taking forever and a day, as well. |
| 00:43.38 | dondelelcaro | puff: wait, what does ps axuf |grep fooprogram; return? |
| 00:43.42 | puff | I wonder if they're all contending for access to the same stuff. |
| 00:43.47 | dondelelcaro | puff: and check dmesg|less; as well. |
| 00:44.05 | dondelelcaro | puff: most likely you've got something wrong on the disk or the filesystem, and they're all madly trying to get the data to read correctly. |
| 00:44.11 | darkheart | PerfDave I'll be back =) |
| 00:44.24 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i dont know how to upgrade the airport card firmware. what do i do? |
| 00:44.34 | deadcat | its useless right now |
| 00:44.50 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: you may have to boot macos... I've never actually upgraded mine. |
| 00:45.01 | SDFH_Linux | no 2.6.12 kernel yet in unstable? |
| 00:45.07 | dob1 | rbochan: yes |
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| 00:45.25 | resiak | SDFH_Linux: You have the same access to packages.debian.org as we do. |
| 00:45.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: shit. no mac os. )=. maybe find someone who does hehe |
| 00:45.27 | v0L7r[-]n | So I'm lookin for something other then changing the runlevel default to 3 |
| 00:45.30 | dob1 | rbochan: i remember something about the fond dir a command for this, but don't know very well |
| 00:45.39 | bob2 | v0L7r[-]n: what are you trying to acheive? |
| 00:46.03 | puff | fooprogram being tiger or the find? |
| 00:46.08 | puff | Hm, in dmesg: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 6f6c6f74 |
| 00:46.08 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: what about it? you can always boot to runlevel 3. The question is, does runlevel 3 do anything useful? |
| 00:46.10 | v0L7r[-]n | so far I changed the runlevel to 3 instead of 2 and it did not give me runlevel 3 on reboot |
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| 00:46.27 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: so set the default to 3 by editing /etc/inittab |
| 00:46.37 | dondelelcaro | otherwise, set init=/sbin/init 3 |
| 00:46.39 | v0L7r[-]n | Thats what I did |
| 00:46.40 | bob2 | v0L7r[-]n: you know runlevel 3 is identical to runlevel 2, right? |
| 00:46.43 | deadcat | bob2: vga out on the ibook works on xfree as well. but the lcd flickers while works fine on xorg, just the MergedFB true option in the x config file |
| 00:46.56 | bob2 | deadcat: ahh |
| 00:47.10 | dob1 | it's a directory with 900 fonts i have to remove it |
| 00:47.13 | resiak | v0L7r[-]n: If you're about to run nvidia-installer, /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 00:47.15 | deadcat | v0L7r[-]n: why you wnat it in 3? |
| 00:47.37 | v0L7r[-]n | what I need is console without X |
| 00:47.41 | chaps0063 | has anyone gotten the tablet portion working on a tablet pc? |
| 00:47.53 | deadcat | v0L7r[-]n: then stop bitching |
| 00:47.58 | dondelelcaro | !tell v0L7r[-]n about nodm |
| 00:48.00 | deadcat | and remove all the x shits |
| 00:48.01 | v0L7r[-]n | So I can make changes to my XF86Config file |
| 00:48.05 | puff | dondelelcaro: Hrrm...yeah, they're all in D state. |
| 00:48.20 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: and in the future, ASK THE ACTUAL QUESTION. |
| 00:48.24 | light_punch2 | where's the official md5sum file for all the ISOs? i don't see it under debian.org/.... |
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| 00:48.38 | deadcat | light_punch2: look hardar |
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| 00:49.08 | darkheart | PerfDave, Thanks =) it works (xmms plays the song) but I can't hear anything yet haha...There are 500 different volume controls in the mixer..can't tell which one it is. |
| 00:49.18 | omi | hey all, I'm a bit confused as to when the debian installer creates /dev/discs and when it uses /dev/hd*. I installed the same sarge install on two comps, one that had scsi and software raid made /dev/discs. A system where I had one ATA drive and LVM didn't create /dev/discs and had lots of entries in dev instead |
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| 00:49.29 | light_punch2 | !hardar |
| 00:49.37 | PerfDave | omi: Is /dev/discs a udev thing? |
| 00:49.42 | omi | think so |
| 00:49.45 | dondelelcaro | light_punch2: in http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS FE |
| 00:50.05 | fman | no luck in debianppc |
| 00:50.05 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Don't hand-edit your X config file - /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 00:50.10 | omi | What I do not get is HOW debinstall determines whether to create or not /dev/discs |
| 00:50.18 | fman | guys, should I have a scripts directory in my /usr/src/kernel-headers directory |
| 00:50.19 | fman | /bin/sh: /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.11-powerpc/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory |
| 00:50.24 | resiak | PerfDave: It's devfs AIUI |
| 00:50.28 | PerfDave | omi: Maybe it creates them if you install udev? :) |
| 00:50.39 | omi | I did install udev on the later box |
| 00:50.49 | omi | but I took two installs, I didn't do anything different |
| 00:50.51 | ryushe | would compiling a kernel with gcc 4.0.1 be a problem? |
| 00:50.54 | PerfDave | fman: Have you checked the BTS for your source package, or for those kernel headers? |
| 00:50.55 | omi | one had /dev/discs another didn't |
| 00:50.58 | dondelelcaro | the installer uses devfs. What you decide to use eventually is up to you. |
| 00:50.58 | puff | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/314731 |
| 00:51.01 | dondelelcaro | ryushe: it won't work. |
| 00:51.12 | PerfDave | ryushe: If you have to ask, almost certainly. |
| 00:51.15 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, it won't work for 2.6.12.3 |
| 00:51.15 | omi | the only difference is that first system had SCSI and MD+LVM second box had ATA and only LVM |
| 00:51.18 | rbochan | dob1: I've exhausted my knowledgebase at this point |
| 00:51.28 | ryushe | ok |
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| 00:51.46 | dondelelcaro | puff: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 6f6c6f74 <-- this is bad. |
| 00:51.48 | ryushe | back to gcc 3.3 then |
| 00:52.03 | dob1 | rbochan: no problem :) |
| 00:52.16 | fman | whats BTS? |
| 00:52.23 | dondelelcaro | !tell fman -about bts |
| 00:52.25 | puff | dondelelcaro: Recommended course of action? |
| 00:52.31 | dob1 | which file fc-cache read to build the font's cache ? |
| 00:52.40 | dondelelcaro | puff: reboot, assuming you've got someone who can access a console |
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| 00:53.22 | puff | I can handle that, yeah. |
| 00:53.24 | PerfDave | ryushe: Why are you compiling your own kernel anyway? |
| 00:54.12 | ryushe | euh? |
| 00:54.14 | ryushe | why not? |
| 00:54.42 | fman | ok, nothing in BTS |
| 00:54.47 | ryushe | I find it a lot easier compiling my own then trying to figure out how the apt way of kernel getting goes |
| 00:54.48 | deadcat | PerfDave: to prove hes a man |
| 00:54.49 | Lanix | can some one tell me where i can download qt 3.2 ? |
| 00:54.57 | ryushe | nothing to do with that deadcat |
| 00:55.02 | deadcat | ryushe: sure |
| 00:55.16 | daniele83 | hi! I have a problem using some gnome apps, like ghemical, gcvs and more others: fonts and icons are very, very small. The other gtk based applications behave correctly, but some of these are unusable. |
| 00:55.17 | deadcat | Lanix: you stable/testing/unstable? |
| 00:55.26 | puff | dondelelcaro: One question... what are the odds that this will "work itself out" if I leave it alone? |
| 00:55.41 | dondelelcaro | puff: um... since it's had an oops, probably 0. |
| 00:55.44 | Pioto | daniele83: do you know if they're using gtk 1 or 2? |
| 00:55.47 | ryushe | deadcat > well, what's wrong with compiling your own kernel with patches? |
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| 00:55.56 | PerfDave | Lanix: What are you actually trying to do? |
| 00:56.02 | deadcat | ryushe: nothing. but you on your own |
| 00:56.04 | Hostile | for some reason my debian boots into single user mode for no reason, any ideas how to fix it? |
| 00:56.08 | puff | Could it lead to spontaneous system hang? |
| 00:56.13 | dondelelcaro | something has locked one of those files, then oopsed, and can't unlock it. |
| 00:56.16 | deadcat | Hostile: check /etc/inittab |
| 00:56.20 | PerfDave | ryushe: apt-get cache search kernel-image, install a kernel-image- package. Simple. |
| 00:56.23 | dondelelcaro | s/has/has probably/ |
| 00:56.28 | daniele83 | Pioto: I think the apps that have problems are in gtk1. All the rest of my gnome environment is ok |
| 00:56.33 | ryushe | PerfDave > doesn't do patches afaik? |
| 00:56.35 | puff | We had a crash a month or so ago, thought it was power problems, but... |
| 00:56.38 | dondelelcaro | puff: no, but those processes will just sit there |
| 00:56.43 | Hostile | deadcat: ok what should I make the default runlevel? |
| 00:56.44 | v0L7r[-]n | Just remove all that shit |
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| 00:56.46 | PerfDave | ryushe: Debian kernels are patched from kernel.org versions. |
| 00:56.49 | v0L7r[-]n | what the fuck is that |
| 00:56.50 | deadcat | Hostile: 2 |
| 00:56.54 | puff | Okay, sound reasoning. |
| 00:56.56 | Hostile | deadcat alright let me go check |
| 00:56.58 | deadcat | v0L7r[-]n: no clue |
| 00:57.05 | ryushe | and besides, how optimized for my system is that kernel? Will I get modules, or everything in-kernel? |
| 00:57.10 | v0L7r[-]n | you tell me to ask the right question next time |
| 00:57.16 | dondelelcaro | ryushe: that doesn't make any difference. |
| 00:57.30 | Pioto | daniele83: hmm... maybe they aren't getting proper theme settings? you using a standard gtk engine? or some custom one? |
| 00:57.31 | Lanix | am tring to instal k3b |
| 00:57.36 | deadcat | v0L7r[-]n: that was the worst question in weeks |
| 00:57.41 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: the right question is what you're actually trying to do, not what you think will enable you to fix what you think is wrong. |
| 00:57.55 | Lanix | and i get an error with qt |
| 00:58.09 | daniele83 | Pioto: I've tried all possible themes. These applications aren't affected by any theme change |
| 00:58.12 | v0L7r[-]n | As I know things coming from mnadrake there is a diferent runlevel for X and for console and x uses xdm as it's boot script |
| 00:58.13 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: ask the real question instead of wasting our time with a question that doesn't solve the problem you actually have. |
| 00:58.15 | ryushe | well depends, I prefer my device drivers to be in-kernel, and not as modules. And how will that kernel know what kind of proc I use? |
| 00:58.16 | darkheart | PerfDave, sorry to bother you again. I've managed to get it so xmms doesn't complain about the driver, but I still can't get sound coming out. |
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| 00:58.21 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: Debain is not mandrake. |
| 00:58.25 | dondelelcaro | s/ai/ia/ |
| 00:58.30 | v0L7r[-]n | I know |
| 00:58.33 | Pioto | daniele83: ya... so maybe you have to custom edit the .gtkrc for gtk1 programs? |
| 00:58.57 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: so why even bring it up? anyway, now you know. Don't repeat that mistake. |
| 00:58.59 | puff | dondelelcaro: Okay, since it's not causing damage right now, I'll announce the impending reboot now and then reboot it late tongiht/early tomorrow morning. |
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| 00:59.01 | Pioto | daniele83: .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 is an example of a file that is used, i think |
| 00:59.08 | PerfDave | ryushe: Debian kernel-images are optimised for specific CPUs and for CPU families, and heavily modular. |
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| 00:59.13 | UberJohn | I'm having issues getting X working on my system, I keep getting that their isn't any framebuffers found |
| 00:59.15 | dondelelcaro | puff: yeah... it's just that user who will be screwed temporarily. |
| 00:59.29 | ryushe | PerfDave > modular in what way? as in, modules are used? |
| 00:59.31 | PerfDave | UberJohn: /msg dpkg troubleshooting x |
| 00:59.34 | PerfDave | ryushe: Yes |
| 00:59.35 | puff | That's acceptable. |
| 00:59.37 | daniele83 | Pioto: my .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 file contains only one line: include "/home/daniele/.gtkrc.mine" |
| 00:59.40 | puff | Once again, many thanks. |
| 00:59.46 | dondelelcaro | puff: or at least, should be just that user... |
| 00:59.50 | dondelelcaro | puff: np |
| 00:59.59 | ryushe | PerfDave > then I prefer to make my own, which doesn't use modules |
| 01:00.01 | puff | Where are you, geographically? I've gotta buy you some beers one of these days :-). |
| 01:00.03 | PerfDave | ryushe: Why? |
| 01:00.18 | dondelelcaro | puff: right now I'm in finland, but normally I'm near los angeles |
| 01:00.24 | ryushe | PerfDave > well, I don't think a server with non-changing hardware needs modules |
| 01:00.34 | PerfDave | darkheart: Hmm, if you type "cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp", do you hear anything? |
| 01:00.36 | rbochan | v0L7r[-]n: zcat /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz |
| 01:00.42 | puff | Finland, fun. |
| 01:00.54 | puff | I have friends in LA, maybe I can proxy you a beer :-). |
| 01:00.57 | PerfDave | ryushe: If you're running a server, stick a Debian-provided kernel-image package so you get automatic security updates :) |
| 01:00.58 | dondelelcaro | s/and/at/ |
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| 01:01.24 | darkheart | PerfDave: No, don't hear anything. |
| 01:01.47 | puff | I think that if I worked on anything in debian, I'd take a crack at dpkg. |
| 01:01.59 | puff | Either making it friendlier, or adding a management layer on top of it. |
| 01:02.12 | PerfDave | darkheart: OK, then either your mixer levels are wrong, or your speakers are plugged in incorrectly or switched off or something. |
| 01:02.13 | rbochan | puff: add more super cow powers |
| 01:02.27 | puff | Man-eating cow powers :-). |
| 01:02.29 | puff | dondelelcaro: Oh? |
| 01:02.31 | PerfDave | darkheart: Are you using a 2.4 or a 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:02.50 | puff | dondelelcaro: I didn't say I *would* work on dpkg... :-). |
| 01:03.04 | puff | For one thing, I'd have to brush off some way-rusty C skills. |
| 01:03.11 | dondelelcaro | actually, most people shouldn't be interacting with dpkg directly... aptitude, dselect, and synaptic are the frontends that should be used... |
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| 01:03.28 | bob2 | puff: there are many management layers...aptitude, synaptic, apt-get... |
| 01:03.35 | puff | Mainly I'd like to make it easier to keep track of when/why things were installed. |
| 01:03.35 | rbochan | dondelelcaro: but dpkg makes cloning systems easy |
| 01:03.57 | dondelelcaro | rbochan: uh, so does dselect, aptitude, and apt-get... |
| 01:04.02 | pablum | aptitude does the when... |
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| 01:04.15 | puff | And beyond that, some groupware support features. |
| 01:04.23 | rbochan | dpkg --get-selctions > packages.list is one of my favorite things |
| 01:04.23 | dpkg | rbochan: I think you lost me on that one |
| 01:04.34 | puff | For when multiple people are responsible for maintaining a given box. |
| 01:04.59 | puff | Sort of sarbanes-oxley style traceability, I guess :-). |
| 01:05.03 | dondelelcaro | that's why you use sudo. |
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| 01:05.15 | puff | Yeah, we use sudo. |
| 01:05.34 | dondelelcaro | and severly restrict the people who actually have root access. Most people should only have access to specific groups on boxes. |
| 01:05.35 | pablum | sudo --> traces left in /var/log/messages |
| 01:05.43 | vincent | hrm, i like to run /usr ro, so i have dpkg setup to mount -o remount,rw before it invokes, and mount -o remount,ro after it finishes, but i'm getting a /mount: /usr is busy' error |
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| 01:05.51 | puff | I mean more like, "package Y was installed as a dependency of package X, which was installed to support end-user request Z. |
| 01:05.58 | dondelelcaro | vincent: use the lazy option. |
| 01:06.07 | vincent | ah thx |
| 01:06.12 | bob2 | puff: add annotation supporto aptitude or such |
| 01:06.16 | bob2 | that would be cool |
| 01:06.16 | puff | dondelelcaro: Those are good ways to minimize the risks, yeah. |
| 01:06.21 | bob2 | but highly non-dpkg-y |
| 01:06.21 | rbochan | puff: sounds like some big log files |
| 01:06.24 | puff | bob2: Yeah, that's what I was saying... |
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| 01:06.30 | Hostile | ok deadcat maybe thats not the problem what happens is when its booting it says...freeing unused kernel memory...then it drops to a shell |
| 01:06.47 | puff | bob2: I thought managers like aptitude depend on some sort of common data underpinning with dpkg. |
| 01:07.06 | bob2 | not really |
| 01:07.08 | dondelelcaro | vincent: err... actually, mount doesn't have that... you may need to use lsof to figure out what has something open on /usr |
| 01:07.11 | bob2 | aside from dpkg's status file |
| 01:07.14 | puff | rbochan: Yeah, we (my little group) makes do with a log file and a mailing list, but I'd like gto build it into the package management otols. |
| 01:07.36 | Hostile | deadcat, and in this shell it drops me to like no commands work |
| 01:07.37 | vincent | dondelelcaro whats the lazy option ? |
| 01:07.45 | vincent | oh hrm |
| 01:07.49 | Hostile | deadcat, all I got are like the basic coreutils commands |
| 01:07.49 | puff | Okay, gotta idle, again thanks ;-). |
| 01:07.50 | dondelelcaro | vincent: it's for umount, and is -l. You won't find it in mount. |
| 01:07.51 | vincent | yea nothing in the manpage |
| 01:08.06 | puff | Next time I'm in LA again I'll look you up. |
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| 01:08.17 | rbochan | puff: that stuff boggles me.. I"m no coder.. I've played a bit with php and python, but I just don't comprehend the languages for some reason |
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| 01:08.33 | Hostile | anyone have any ideas why when my debian boot it says "freeing unused kernel memory" then dumps me to a shell |
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| 01:08.39 | rbochan | and tcl==evil |
| 01:08.39 | dylan_ | why does gtkpod tell me that my file structure is invalid? |
| 01:08.55 | KarlosII | is there a fix or solution temporary for this dependancy issue: |
| 01:08.56 | KarlosII | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 01:08.57 | KarlosII | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.57 | KarlosII | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:08.59 | dondelelcaro | Hostile: because init=/bin/bash or something else failed? |
| 01:09.03 | KarlosII | hmm |
| 01:09.07 | dondelelcaro | KarlosII: read /topic and don't paste here. |
| 01:09.22 | Hostile | dondelelcaro, ok what file has that stuff in it, i mean what would be causing this to fail |
| 01:10.01 | dondelelcaro | Hostile: that would be the arguments that you're passing to the bootloader or what you've set using rdev. |
| 01:10.13 | dondelelcaro | Hostile: the standard is init=/sbin/init; but you could set it to almost anythign. |
| 01:10.28 | Hostile | dondelelcaro, well see it was working fine...and I didnt change anything but now its messedup |
| 01:10.38 | Hostile | dondelelcaro, what file should I look at to make sure thats not messsed up |
| 01:10.43 | CyL | how do I set the correct locale for my system? |
| 01:10.50 | dondelelcaro | Hostile: try booting with init=/sbin/init; and see if that works. |
| 01:10.58 | dylan_ | can anybody help me? why does gtkpod tell me that my file structure is invalid? |
| 01:10.59 | deadcat | CyL: dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 01:11.04 | CyL | deadcat thanks |
| 01:11.21 | Hostile | dondelelcaro, in my lilo the entry is debian so do 'debian init=/sbin/init' |
| 01:11.22 | Hostile | ? |
| 01:11.25 | v0L7r[-]n | whats fN ? |
| 01:11.32 | dondelelcaro | !info libaspell15c2 |
| 01:11.35 | dpkg | libaspell15c2: (The GNU Aspell spell-checker runtime toolkits), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.60.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 670 kB, Installed size: 2536 kB |
| 01:11.39 | dondelelcaro | Hostile: presumably. |
| 01:11.42 | v0L7r[-]n | acronym finder doesn't know |
| 01:11.51 | Hostile | ok |
| 01:11.52 | dondelelcaro | KarlosII: uh, are you actually using sid? Is your mirror up to date? |
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| 01:11.57 | dondelelcaro | v0L7r[-]n: freenode |
| 01:12.06 | dondelelcaro | (or function) |
| 01:12.12 | v0L7r[-]n | ctrl-alt-fN |
| 01:12.18 | KarlosII | dondelelcaro, maybe not |
| 01:12.18 | TheAsp | function key |
| 01:12.19 | v0L7r[-]n | like that |
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| 01:12.25 | v0L7r[-]n | to enter the console |
| 01:12.30 | TheAsp | ohhh |
| 01:12.30 | KarlosII | yes I'm using sid |
| 01:12.32 | TheAsp | F# |
| 01:12.33 | v0L7r[-]n | ooh |
| 01:12.37 | v0L7r[-]n | secial |
| 01:12.41 | TheAsp | no |
| 01:12.43 | TheAsp | the F keys |
| 01:12.47 | v0L7r[-]n | so special |
| 01:12.47 | deadcat | KarlosII: you will have to hold that upgrade |
| 01:12.47 | TheAsp | F1 F2 F3 . . . |
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| 01:12.51 | deadcat | !tell v0L7r[-]n about enter |
| 01:12.52 | KarlosII | deadcat |
| 01:12.53 | KarlosII | k |
| 01:12.56 | dondelelcaro | KarlosII: then your mirror is out of date if you can't install libaspell15c2=0.60.3-3 |
| 01:13.07 | welson | after i use dpkg --set-selections, what do i do after? |
| 01:13.21 | luulis | dylan_: it'd be better to ask in #gtkpod or something |
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| 01:13.29 | dondelelcaro | welson: apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 01:13.37 | welson | dondelelcaro: ok thanks :) |
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| 01:14.42 | omi | I made udev use devfs rules, the system boots all services until the last one (cron) and then doesn't do anything for couple of minutes; then 6 messages appear INIT: ID 1...6 respawning too fast. Disabled for 5 min. |
| 01:14.52 | chaps0063 | how do I install apache with php and mysql preconfigured? |
| 01:14.53 | v0L7r[-]n | function n ? |
| 01:15.01 | omi | INIT: no more processes in this runlevel |
| 01:15.10 | omi | any Idea what might be wrong |
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| 01:15.42 | omi | chaps0063, you still need to enable mysql module in php4.ini |
| 01:15.43 | KarlosII | dondelelcaro, actually I can select but it removes about 100 items......so I'll just have to wait |
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| 01:16.05 | chaps0063 | omi: ok. |
| 01:16.14 | omi | chaps0063, apt-get install apache php4 php4-mysql mysql-server |
| 01:16.15 | Hostile | dondelelcaro, forgive me im such a dumbass...i had lilo booting the wrong root parttion |
| 01:16.18 | Hostile | Im so stupid |
| 01:16.38 | chaps0063 | omi: ok...and after thats done? |
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| 01:16.46 | omi | chaps0063, you'll also need to uncomment mapping for .php files in /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 01:16.49 | omi | and thats about it |
| 01:16.50 | nevyn | Can't the gcc people just pick an ABI and stick to it sigh. |
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| 01:17.11 | omi | in /etc/php4/apache/php4.ini you'll need to uncomment extensions=mysql.so |
| 01:17.16 | v0L7r[-]n | know really though what is funtion N on my keyboard |
| 01:17.19 | omi | and then it should run |
| 01:17.26 | omi | but you probably want to tweak it a bit |
| 01:17.27 | v0L7r[-]n | unless you mean F3 |
| 01:17.33 | chaps0063 | omi: ok...cool...thanks. |
| 01:17.47 | omi | np |
| 01:17.51 | sess | is there a known issue with R128 and kernel 2.6.11 when using the hibernate function on laptops? |
| 01:18.10 | sess | google reveals nothing, but I can't figure out why my laptop locks up EVERy time I try to resume back to X |
| 01:18.19 | chaps0063 | omi: it starts as daemon or as inetd? |
| 01:18.20 | sess | it works fine at the console, but X resumes and locks up hard |
| 01:18.23 | rbochan | Hostile: at least you got it figured out |
| 01:18.24 | v0L7r[-]n | man I wish I was so mgnificently smart like you guys |
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| 01:19.20 | v0L7r[-]n | I'm just a stupid fuckr |
| 01:19.20 | SDFH_Linux | does linux write to fat32 fs |
| 01:19.30 | mentor | yes... |
| 01:19.31 | sess | for a long time now |
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| 01:19.43 | v0L7r[-]n | know brains |
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| 01:20.05 | Jebediah | magnificently smart enough to follow directions and not get things right because the doc is out of date? |
| 01:20.05 | drgreen | I got my keyboard working by upgrading to kernel 2.6.8 |
| 01:20.09 | v0L7r[-]n | see even my grammer is a bad |
| 01:20.10 | candrodor | (Psst, I think s/he means "grammar") |
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| 01:21.19 | drgreen | deadcat: My keyboard works now =) |
| 01:21.39 | v0L7r[-]n | so please warm my ignorence about fn with explicit meaning |
| 01:22.22 | drgreen | hey, is anyone running 2.6.8-686 and willing to compile something for me? |
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| 01:22.42 | ke6isf | drgreen: Any reason you can't do it yourself? |
| 01:22.48 | drgreen | I am on dialup and it will take me forever to download the kern source/headers |
| 01:22.55 | WolfShadow | I don't suppose anyone has run into a problem with xfree86 on sid where your screen has the top couple of inches at the bottom and a bar of rainbow lines down the right hand side? |
| 01:22.56 | rbochan | drgreen: perhaps keydev wasn't loading before? |
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| 01:25.15 | chaps0063 | omi: I did what you told me, but it doesn't process php files. |
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| 01:25.51 | drgreen | I wish the sarge disk came with kernel source =( |
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| 01:26.24 | v0L7r[-]n | ok so adm is what I need and not all that other X shit |
| 01:26.27 | v0L7r[-]n | xdm |
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| 01:26.45 | drgreen | PerfDave: are u running 2.6.8-686 ? |
| 01:26.51 | rutski89 | hello, I'm pretty sure that my ISP bloks outgoing port 25, can I get exim4 to use a different port? |
| 01:27.03 | bob2 | rutski89: no |
| 01:27.25 | MasterChief | Hi, I have a problem, I am using pureftpd and I want to enable chroots, I type in /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd-mysql -A for chroots (like to docs tell me to) and it says "Address already in use" What does this mean and how can I fix it? |
| 01:27.39 | rutski89 | bob2: k :( Time to get a new ISP then :D |
| 01:27.47 | bob2 | MasterChief: it means it is already running |
| 01:28.03 | luulis | drgreen: does sarge disk(s) not have the package kernel-source-2.6.8? |
| 01:28.06 | bob2 | MasterChief: and the docs are wrong, you'll need to look in /etc/default/ or edit /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd directly |
| 01:28.07 | ke6isf | rutski89: I recommend Speakeasy. They don't block ports. |
| 01:28.18 | ke6isf | rutski89: Unless you're running dialup. |
| 01:28.20 | PerfDave | drgreen: No :) |
| 01:28.22 | furrywolf | http://channels.debian.net/paste/372 <== lsusb. (for the people saying I have too many usb devices. :) |
| 01:28.23 | drgreen | luulis: Ive only got disk 1, and it doesnt have it =[ |
| 01:28.43 | PerfDave | drgreen: I was just recommending that you buy some Debian 3.1 DVDs :) |
| 01:29.00 | drgreen | Im out of cash till next month =[ |
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| 01:29.18 | MasterChief | bob2: I know, but I cant figure out how to stop it, I tried init.d, and /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd-mysql stop and stuff like that, no luke. Also there is no reference to stopping it in thier docs |
| 01:29.31 | chaps0063 | omi: I have it install and configured, but its not processing the php files. |
| 01:29.36 | furrywolf | drgreen: I'm out of cash until I get a new job. :P |
| 01:29.44 | rutski89 | ke6isf: nope, I'm on cable at the moment, tell me more about speakeasy; do you use it? |
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| 01:29.54 | bob2 | MasterChief: so, don't stop it, you don't want to be running it like that at all |
| 01:30.11 | bob2 | MasterChief: fix the init script or the file in /etc/default/, then restart the init script: sudo invoke-rc.d pure-ftpd restart |
| 01:30.13 | ke6isf | rutski89: Yep. Official policy that I heard in 2000 for running a DSL is "We don't care what you run for services, as long as it doesn't kill the backhaul". |
| 01:30.27 | ke6isf | rutski89: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/10577 |
| 01:30.36 | ke6isf | rutski89: It's straight xDSL, but you might be able to get somethink. |
| 01:30.43 | Gumby | does anyone here use mailfilter? I am looking to see if it is possible to use it to forward emails to another address but I cant seem to find and .mailfilter examples anywhere that show any decent rules |
| 01:30.53 | MasterChief | bob2: Why would I need to fix it? |
| 01:31.04 | bob2 | MasterChief: to pass the -A option, presumably |
| 01:31.08 | drgreen | will someone please compile this for me? =[ |
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| 01:31.27 | Tecky` | anyone care to help me w/ setting up a mail server (having a few problems) Postfix + Amavisd-NEW + Spamassassin + ClamAV + Squirrelmail |
| 01:31.28 | MasterChief | How would I do that, and why would the docs be wrong? |
| 01:31.40 | rutski89 | ke6isf: "kill the backhaul"? |
| 01:32.01 | bob2 | MasterChief: nevermind then, and the docs are assuming that you don't have an init script |
| 01:32.08 | bob2 | talk to your sysadmin, I guess |
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| 01:32.47 | ke6isf | rutski89: Taking this off channel; it's now offtopic. |
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| 01:32.55 | MasterChief | THanks |
| 01:33.50 | PerfDave | Tecky`: There are some good HOWTOs about mail setups like that but with exim, on http://www.debian-administration.org/ |
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| 01:34.00 | WolfShadow | freaky. anyone had trouble with the latest nvidia driver? it was causing some really odd display problems, searched around for one of their older ones and it works fine |
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| 01:34.47 | omi | chaps0063, what does it say? |
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| 01:35.15 | omi | chaps0063, does it send you the source of the php file? |
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| 01:35.29 | omi | have you reloaded apache? |
| 01:35.33 | fman | anyone able to help me with module-assistant |
| 01:36.01 | fman | I keep getting an error, Warning, /usr/src/linux seems to contain unconfigured kernel source! |
| 01:36.21 | fman | which is wrong, as I just checked and there is a valid .config in /usr/src/linux |
| 01:37.33 | furrywolf | hrmm, I bet I have a bad usb hub. |
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| 01:38.59 | voltr0n | How do I get back into my X ? |
| 01:39.21 | gravity | voltr0n: startx |
| 01:39.39 | voltr0n | didn't work |
| 01:39.48 | voltr0n | maybe I don't have xinit |
| 01:40.31 | voltr0n | I like that though ctl-alt-F1 and I'm in the console |
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| 01:41.28 | beardy | voltr0n: Alt-F7 |
| 01:41.34 | voltr0n | but I didn't run the apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm gdm pdm update- rc.d -f xdm remove first |
| 01:41.47 | voltr0n | and disable dm |
| 01:41.54 | voltr0n | I tried this first |
| 01:42.18 | v0L7r[-]n | ya baby |
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| 01:42.29 | v0L7r[-]n | thats fucken wicked |
| 01:42.37 | v0L7r[-]n | stooooooooooooooooooooooooookkked |
| 01:42.55 | eggenz7 | hey all..i have a microsoft trackball explorer...how do i enable all of the buttons and choose which one i want to be used as right clk? |
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| 01:43.37 | v0L7r[-]n | I don't need to do all that other crap now |
| 01:43.45 | MasterChief | can someone please tell me how to search files |
| 01:44.09 | PerfDave | MasterChief: What do you mean by "search files"? |
| 01:44.14 | beardy | MasterChief: 'locate filename' 'man find' |
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| 01:44.21 | MasterChief | thanks |
| 01:44.27 | v0L7r[-]n | So what runlevel do I go to then when running ctl-alt-F1 |
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| 01:45.35 | v0L7r[-]n | This might cause problems when making changes to my XF86Config file if X stays running |
| 01:45.36 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: YOu don't go to a runlevel, you just go to a console. |
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| 01:45.58 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Why do you want to make changes to your X config anyway? |
| 01:46.06 | v0L7r[-]n | 6 monitor |
| 01:46.13 | v0L7r[-]n | 5 video cards |
| 01:46.20 | PerfDave | *fear* |
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| 01:46.30 | v0L7r[-]n | have to run X -configure to jump start the file |
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| 01:47.01 | beardy | Probably bad habits learned elsewhere.. |
| 01:47.13 | v0L7r[-]n | So even though what I just learned is cool it ight not be what I need |
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| 01:47.36 | DA_ | any good way to get a list of all installed packages? |
| 01:47.38 | torbs | after hours and hours of headaches i'll try to ask some1 here... i run the 2.6.11-kernel on an amd 2600 and a epox 8KRAi motherboard. during heavy networktraffic the system freezes. only way to power it down is to pull the cord right out of the socket. sometimes it is stable for hours and even days but most of the time not for a very long time. i have tried diff ram so they are alright. also truied 2.4 kernel which also giv |
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| 01:48.01 | v0L7r[-]n | if I boot into console on start would alt-F7 still work to boot X |
| 01:48.16 | bob2 | HAhHA: can you not? |
| 01:48.18 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Only if X is running. |
| 01:48.26 | v0L7r[-]n | shot thats what I thought |
| 01:48.36 | manu | any idea why this does not work for i in `top -d1 | grep httpd |awk '{print $7}'`; do echo $i; done |
| 01:48.55 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Your system has lots of virtual consoles on one physical console, typically F1-F6 are your text consoles and F7 is your X console. |
| 01:48.55 | manu | it gives no output |
| 01:49.12 | beardy | manu: what are you trying to do? Use ps? |
| 01:49.13 | pureone | manu |
| 01:49.20 | PerfDave | manu: Does this work: top -d1 | grep httpd |awk '{print $7}' |
| 01:49.23 | me_here | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.30 | v0L7r[-]n | cool |
| 01:49.30 | pureone | never mind... thought you missed something |
| 01:49.37 | manu | Yes |
| 01:49.43 | manu | PerfDave: Yes |
| 01:50.00 | PerfDave | manu: The win is you! :) |
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| 01:50.26 | manu | PerfDave: I dont get you |
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| 01:50.51 | DA_ | ok i very recently did an apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade and now when switching out of X (using ctrl+alt+F1 or the like) or when blackbox exits my console is completely fucked and unreadable... what the hell caused this? |
| 01:51.08 | manu | PerfDave: any ideas why |
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| 01:51.41 | rpmx | hi |
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| 01:53.03 | edgarin | HI |
| 01:53.05 | zappacky | hi |
| 01:53.07 | DA_ | i think it has something to do with wdm or WINGs display manager but im not sure... also when i booted my console seemed to have been affected by WINGs as well (background turned red, and some strange ascii logo appeared) |
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| 01:53.13 | zappacky | anyone here evr used thermite? |
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| 01:53.42 | v0L7r[-]n | would kill work from console to shutdown X |
| 01:53.48 | manu | PerfDave: Can you hel[ |
| 01:53.49 | v0L7r[-]n | probably ha |
| 01:54.00 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: You can kill X processes from the console, it's pretty messy though. |
| 01:54.15 | PerfDave | manu: Uhm, what are you trying to do? |
| 01:54.27 | PerfDave | manu: You probably want to ask #bash about bash scripting questions. |
| 01:54.38 | v0L7r[-]n | is there a easy way to have debian boot into console wit know X |
| 01:54.38 | bob2 | zappacky: the metal-melting thing? |
| 01:55.05 | bob2 | v0L7r[-]n: are you still trying to install nvidia drivers? |
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| 01:55.22 | manu | I need to add and get the avarage memmoery that httpd is using on the server |
| 01:55.24 | v0L7r[-]n | I have to install a beta driver to for mga |
| 01:55.36 | v0L7r[-]n | and mga_hal |
| 01:55.44 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Yes. Either don't install an X display manager, or don't run it on startup. /msg dpkg nodm |
| 01:56.00 | rpmx | a one question technical, why I can not in console F1 apt-get install xmms and console F2 apt-get install abiword ? |
| 01:56.16 | PerfDave | rpmx: You can't run multiple apt-gets simultaneously. |
| 01:56.24 | bombashack | Having a problem with sound. I am getting 'desktop' sounds but RealPlayer is not working, no sound from it but it is streaming in content. |
| 01:56.25 | Phated | You could always in F1 apt-get install abiword xmms |
| 01:56.38 | bob2 | bombashack: it needs to be told to use esd |
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| 01:56.50 | bob2 | bombashack: or you can just run 'pkill esd' and it will work, but system sounds will not |
| 01:56.52 | Tecky` | freaking power went out |
| 01:56.53 | Tecky` | blah |
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| 01:57.06 | Gozar | how do I find all directorys beginning with . in my home directory? I want to search them for a specific keyword. I tryed: "find -type d -name '.*' -exec egrep -R tsocks {}/ \;" tsocks been the keyword. |
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| 01:57.18 | PerfDave | Phated! |
| 01:57.24 | bombashack | thanks bob, how do i tell it to use esd? |
| 01:57.25 | v0L7r[-]n | oh X display manager that lets me ctr-alt-F1 and alt-F7 back in |
| 01:57.32 | v0L7r[-]n | gdm |
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| 01:57.45 | v0L7r[-]n | so I need xdm only |
| 01:57.47 | bob2 | bombashack: I don't know...real player is kinda old and shit. |
| 01:57.55 | bob2 | bombashack: maybe realplayer 10 upports it, I dunno |
| 01:58.04 | rpmx | PerfDave, What isn the explanation technical ? |
| 01:58.06 | bombashack | running 10 |
| 01:58.09 | skel | Gozar: ls -la ~ | grep . | xargs grep -R tsocks maybe? |
| 01:58.10 | PerfDave | Gozar: Hang on, you want to find all directories whose names start with "." and whose names contain the phrase "tsocks"? |
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| 01:58.18 | Phated | PerfDave: 'ello. |
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| 01:58.46 | PerfDave | rpmx: The technical explanation is that apt-get locks its database while running to avoid concurrency issues caused by simultaneous package installation. |
| 01:59.00 | PerfDave | rpmx: But the simple explanation is that you can't run multiple apt-gets simultaneously :) |
| 01:59.08 | bombashack | I will see if killing esd will work |
| 01:59.41 | Gozar | Pecisk: Any dictorey starting with . (hidden) and then search those directoryes for files contaning the keyword tsocks |
| 01:59.59 | edgarin | make all make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install |
| 01:59.59 | rpmx | PerfDave, thank |
| 02:00.06 | edgarin | is used to compile kernel 2.6? |
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| 02:00.48 | skel | edgarin: yes, or you can install kernel-package and just do make-kpkg kernel_image and it will do all of those |
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| 02:01.05 | v0L7r[-]n | this is going to be a major pain |
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| 02:01.18 | edgarin | ok |
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| 02:01.24 | skel | v0L7r[-]n: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:01.30 | v0L7r[-]n | to much |
| 02:01.32 | Gozar | sorry PerfDave Any dictorey starting with . (hidden) and then search those directoryes for files contaning the keyword tsock |
| 02:01.45 | skel | Gozar: did you see my response? |
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| 02:02.26 | Gozar | skel: Yes I saw it. |
| 02:02.28 | Phated | rgrep tsocks ./.* should work. |
| 02:03.14 | UberJohn | I was pointed to the log files last time, but Like I had said before X tells me that it can find any framebuffers all the .o files it's looking for it can't find being refeneced from the libGLcore.a file |
| 02:03.39 | UberJohn | I'm using a GForce 2 Video card |
| 02:03.42 | skel | v0L7r[-]n: I think you just want to remove the init script that executed x/g/kdm |
| 02:05.01 | v0L7r[-]n | ok |
| 02:05.05 | v0L7r[-]n | I'm listening |
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| 02:05.23 | skel | v0L7r[-]n: check /etc/rc[2-3].d/SXX.xdm or gdm / kdm |
| 02:05.42 | skel | v0L7r[-]n: and just unlink it.. should just be a link to /etc/init.d |
| 02:05.46 | Gozar | skel: "ls -la ~ | grep . | xargs| grep -R tsocks" don't do it. "ls -la ~ | grep . | xargs" correctley lists all the directoryes tho on one line |
| 02:05.49 | Tecky` | Anyone willing to help me setup a mail server ? |
| 02:06.40 | PerfDave | Gozar: find .[^.]* -type f -path '*tsocks*' |
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| 02:07.12 | zappacky | rm -r / solves evrythin |
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| 02:07.34 | bob2 | Tecky`: pay someone to do it; if you screw up, it hurts other people |
| 02:07.45 | bob2 | Tecky`: or http://kirby.insanegenius.net/postfix.html |
| 02:07.48 | korhalf | how do i rm a file that begins with - |
| 02:07.51 | korhalf | for isntance -file.bmp |
| 02:07.56 | korhalf | it gives me an error |
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| 02:08.07 | korhalf | i tried rm "-file.bmp" same problem |
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| 02:08.18 | Gozar | PerfDave: It's text files that containes the word tsocks. |
| 02:08.36 | rpmx | with diff I compare diferent in files, but in folders How I can compare if number files are same ? |
| 02:08.37 | korhalf | chris@linuxbox:~$ rm "-0c1a4_fuel.bmp" |
| 02:08.37 | korhalf | rm: invalid option -- 0 |
| 02:08.37 | PerfDave | korhalf: rm -- -file.bmp |
| 02:08.56 | korhalf | thanks man, i appreciate it |
| 02:08.56 | korhalf | peace |
| 02:09.04 | nvz | !folder |
| 02:09.04 | dpkg | well, folder is a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet, or what ya do before ya doer |
| 02:09.19 | v0L7r[-]n | ok gdm is in init.d |
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| 02:09.26 | felesh | hi |
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| 02:09.30 | zappacky | !life |
| 02:09.31 | dpkg | Life? Don't talk to me about life. |
| 02:09.34 | zappacky | lol |
| 02:09.39 | zappacky | !meaningoflife |
| 02:09.46 | felesh | i can't find the calculator of gnome, what package is????? |
| 02:09.54 | zappacky | gnomecalc? |
| 02:09.58 | nvz | I wonder how many more times I will fall asleep trying to fix this windows pc |
| 02:10.00 | UberJohn | gcalc? |
| 02:10.16 | PerfDave | Gozar: find .[^.]* -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -L tsocks |
| 02:10.20 | skel | v0L7r[-]n: don't zap it there.. zap it in your default runlevel /etc/rcX.d |
| 02:10.36 | felesh | no, may to be a general package, like gnome-utilities o something like this |
| 02:10.42 | skel | v0L7r[-]n: its just a link from /etc/rcX.d -> /etc/init.d |
| 02:11.00 | zappacky | !linux |
| 02:11.00 | dpkg | methinks linux is closed |
| 02:11.06 | zappacky | lol! |
| 02:11.59 | UberJohn | I was pointed to the log files last time, but Like I had said before X tells me that it can find any framebuffers all the .o files it's looking for it can't find from the libGLcore.a file |
| 02:12.15 | zappacky | !mIRC |
| 02:12.15 | dpkg | i guess mirc is http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/mirc/exploit.html |
| 02:12.22 | Gozar | My apologuices. "find -type d -name '.*' -exec egrep -R tsocks {}/ \;" Actully works. I just did'ent give it time enof :-( |
| 02:12.48 | PerfDave | Gozar: find .[^.]* -type f -exec grep -L tsocks {} \; works for me :) |
| 02:13.12 | v0L7r[-]n | here should be a tool available to the user (e.g., RedHat's chkconfig) which can be used by the system administrator to easily manipulate at which init levels a particular init.d script is started or stopped |
| 02:13.13 | nvz | I disabled some 50 windows services and every time I turn one back on I have to reboot |
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| 02:13.30 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: update-rc.d |
| 02:13.44 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: I still have no idea why you're messing around with runlevels. |
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| 02:14.19 | nvz | the good news is its not able to get on the network yet, the bad news is its not able to get on the network yet :P |
| 02:14.25 | Matthew_I | anyone here having performance problems on amd64 with a geforce 6600 GT? |
| 02:14.34 | v0L7r[-]n | will X -configure or X -config /path work with X running |
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| 02:14.45 | v0L7r[-]n | while I make changes |
| 02:14.55 | v0L7r[-]n | or switching driver |
| 02:14.58 | PerfDave | Matthew_I: Running Sarge or amd64 sarge? |
| 02:15.02 | liable | v0L7r[-]n: sysvconfig, chkconfig.. |
| 02:15.03 | v0L7r[-]n | thats why |
| 02:15.06 | nvz | Matthew_I: care to elaborate, or just to rub in the fact that you have better hardware than everyone? 8) |
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| 02:15.11 | PandaKun | yo |
| 02:15.14 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Why does that have *anything* to do with runlevels? |
| 02:15.16 | PandaKun | is there a script to reinstall all the headers? |
| 02:15.23 | Matthew_I | PerfDave, unstable on amd64 |
| 02:15.27 | PandaKun | on amd64 |
| 02:15.34 | PerfDave | Matthew_I: Ask #debian-amd64 probably |
| 02:15.35 | PandaKun | !amd64 |
| 02:15.35 | dpkg | from memory, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 02:15.46 | Matthew_I | nvz, during wolfet if anything intresting comes on the screen frame rate drops from like 80 to 12 |
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| 02:15.48 | doojin | hi |
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| 02:15.58 | Matthew_I | nvz, expecially when it's an op;en area |
| 02:16.01 | KirbyMeister | So, I checked my /var/log/sshd.log file |
| 02:16.04 | doojin | I don't know where the opengl driver for linux is |
| 02:16.09 | Matthew_I | nvz, the graphics settings don't really change anything |
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| 02:16.14 | Matthew_I | PerfDave, did that already |
| 02:16.17 | v0L7r[-]n | I'm thinking |
| 02:16.18 | doojin | libGL.so.1 is slow |
| 02:16.21 | PerfDave | doojin: What do you mean, "the opengl driver for linux"? |
| 02:16.23 | KirbyMeister | Idiots cant even guess usernames right. |
| 02:16.31 | doojin | libGL.so.1 is too slow to player a game |
| 02:16.32 | skel | PerfDave: thats how I always have done it out of ignorance .. never known about update-rc.d |
| 02:16.34 | doojin | *play |
| 02:16.35 | nvz | might as well written that in traditional chinese for all the sense it made to me |
| 02:16.40 | skel | PerfDave: so bad advice on my part |
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| 02:16.54 | doojin | PerfDave : I mean libGL.so.1 is a kind of opengl driver |
| 02:17.06 | PerfDave | doojin: What graphics card do you have? |
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| 02:17.15 | KirbyMeister | I did a WHOIS on the IP that was dictionaring my box, and found out that the ISP is korean. |
| 02:17.17 | v0L7r[-]n | I just want to have console without X for a little while |
| 02:17.18 | PerfDave | doojin: No, it's an OpenGL library. |
| 02:17.22 | KirbyMeister | I e-mailed their abuse contact anyway. |
| 02:17.28 | v0L7r[-]n | make some changes |
| 02:17.30 | bbware | it is an ATI 9550 |
| 02:17.31 | v0L7r[-]n | test |
| 02:17.35 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: So why are you messing about with runlevels? Just stop running X. |
| 02:17.38 | skel | v0L7r[-]n: if you don't want it permenant .. then just do /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| 02:17.39 | doojin | PerfDave : I have geforce 4 420 go 32MB |
| 02:17.39 | nvz | well the bitch is back online.. time to portscan her again |
| 02:17.40 | jm_ | I'm getting a message at boot saying (approximately) "Can't open initial console" and then not much more happens |
| 02:17.52 | v0L7r[-]n | then emerge |
| 02:18.01 | skel | PerfDave: I thought he wanted debian to boot without xdm and only run as needed.. |
| 02:18.02 | jmspeex | Anyone can help? |
| 02:18.05 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Emerge? You're running Gentoo? |
| 02:18.10 | PerfDave | doojin: You need to run the non-free nVidia binary drivers. /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 02:18.18 | jmspeex | This is the result of moving my debian install from one disk to another. |
| 02:18.21 | v0L7r[-]n | no no |
| 02:18.30 | doojin | PerfDave : I executed one-liner |
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| 02:18.52 | drgreen | KirbyMeister: its probably an infected computer |
| 02:18.54 | FieldySnuts | PerfDave: v0L7r[-]n has been a troll on and off here for the past few days |
| 02:19.12 | PerfDave | doojin: Did you understand it? :) |
| 02:19.12 | KirbyMeister | drgreen: So? I dont want idiots making GNU/Linux systems look bad |
| 02:19.24 | FieldySnuts | nvz: in winshit i think the -o option passed to netstat will identify the app listening |
| 02:19.28 | v0L7r[-]n | a troll |
| 02:19.39 | PandaKun | so no one has any idea how to reinstall all my headers and libraries |
| 02:19.40 | KirbyMeister | They can go hack Windows systems for all I care, as long as they dont TOUCH Linux systems. |
| 02:19.51 | doojin | PerfDave : I modified /etc/apt/sources.list and executed one-liner |
| 02:19.58 | FieldySnuts | !hack KirbyMeister |
| 02:20.00 | nvz | FieldySnuts: I've been using nmap.. I didnt even think about using netstat 8) |
| 02:20.03 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: So just stop running X, do whatever you want to do, and start running X again. There's no need to dick around with runlevels, or reboot, or change anything in /etc/init.d/ |
| 02:20.06 | doojin | PerfDave : and the graphic card driver in XF86Config-4 is "nvidia" |
| 02:20.21 | PerfDave | doojin: Why did you modify your sources.list? |
| 02:20.24 | bbware | I need help with ATI graphic drivers installation |
| 02:20.28 | KirbyMeister | dpkg, you dont even know how much pr0n is on here... none. |
| 02:20.28 | dpkg | KirbyMeister: I think you lost me on that one |
| 02:20.34 | FieldySnuts | ask ati then, it's their shitty drivers |
| 02:20.35 | doojin | PerfDave : one-liner made me do it |
| 02:20.40 | ke6isf | bbware: OK< ask away. |
| 02:20.42 | PerfDave | doojin: "made you do it"? |
| 02:20.56 | FieldySnuts | heh that's a qotd canidate |
| 02:20.57 | doojin | One-liner made me modify sources.list |
| 02:21.02 | v0L7r[-]n | that could come in handy changing which init.d is run on which runlevel |
| 02:21.07 | PerfDave | doojin: How did it "make you"? |
| 02:21.10 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: qotd0? |
| 02:21.10 | dpkg | [qotd43] <kingk> Its pretty easy to install Flash, you just dl, unpack, and run the installer. But it doesn't work for me <takatumi> kingk: and yet you say it's easy. |
| 02:21.12 | PerfDave | bbware: /msg dpkg ati |
| 02:21.12 | bbware | i dld the drivers and cd to the folder and type the command but says permission denied |
| 02:21.28 | doojin | PerfDave : It says I have to modify sources.list |
| 02:21.32 | nvz | FieldySnuts: is there netstat on windows then I take it? |
| 02:21.40 | FieldySnuts | nvz yeah |
| 02:21.41 | ke6isf | bbware: Sounds like the executable bit isn't set. |
| 02:21.44 | doojin | PerfDave : I added contrib non-free in sources.list |
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| 02:21.46 | ke6isf | bbware: you *are* root, right? |
| 02:21.48 | FieldySnuts | nvz: it's a peice of dung but you can get the info you want |
| 02:21.55 | PerfDave | doojin: OK, fine. |
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| 02:22.15 | PandaKun | dododod |
| 02:22.22 | PandaKun | nobody knows? |
| 02:22.32 | bbware | yes logged as root |
| 02:22.33 | FieldySnuts | apparently not |
| 02:22.39 | PandaKun | =o |
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| 02:23.03 | vitriol | dpkg: why don't you answer me? |
| 02:23.05 | FieldySnuts | !hire PerfDave |
| 02:23.23 | v0L7r[-]n | Troll - idely used on IRC, UseNet, and email lists to describe a person whose posts are inappropriate, off-topic, blatantly offensive, or just plain twittish and indicitave of their underevolved state |
| 02:23.33 | nvz | FieldySnuts: gives me two pids for those two ports 8) |
| 02:23.33 | FieldySnuts | v0L7r[-]n: yeah. that's you, sometimes. |
| 02:23.33 | v0L7r[-]n | you asshole |
| 02:23.41 | FieldySnuts | v0L7r[-]n: thank you :) |
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| 02:23.50 | bob2 | come on kids |
| 02:23.54 | nvz | FieldySnuts: I need a translator here, so I can talk linux and this thing understands it |
| 02:24.10 | PerfDave | nvz: Cygwin? :) |
| 02:24.13 | FieldySnuts | nvz: tyr adding the p option too, maybe it will convert pid to actual process name |
| 02:24.36 | PerfDave | doojin: So what problem are you having? |
| 02:24.59 | vitriol | ok... dpkg doesn't seem to know much of anything about WPA on debian |
| 02:25.04 | nvz | FieldySnuts: tried -panto but that returns nothing at all.. without the p it returns a list of TCP/UDP connections |
| 02:25.08 | vitriol | anybody know where i can find some setup instructions? |
| 02:25.31 | PerfDave | nvz: -panto? It's behind you! :) |
| 02:25.33 | FieldySnuts | okay. i don't use it much so. |
| 02:25.38 | vitriol | i almost have it working from reading little scraps of stuff and sifting through docs that are 80% irrelevant |
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| 02:25.58 | cryosphere | hello |
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| 02:26.19 | cryosphere | can someone help me use scp |
| 02:26.29 | ke6isf | !scp |
| 02:26.29 | dpkg | it has been said that scp is Secure Copy, part of the ssh suite, and a very handy program. ssh + cpio. EXAMPLE: scp *.mp3 me@myotherbox:/var/tmp |
| 02:26.31 | DoppelGanger | hmmm where did i put those manuals |
| 02:26.35 | doojin | PerfDave : I have problem playing loki game demos |
| 02:26.45 | vincent | cryosphere: what do you need help w/ ? |
| 02:26.48 | cryosphere | well I know my friends ip |
| 02:26.54 | doojin | It says I have slow opengl driver libGL.so.1 |
| 02:26.54 | cryosphere | i know he has winscp |
| 02:26.59 | cryosphere | i know what ports i have open |
| 02:27.01 | doojin | PerfDave : I t says so |
| 02:27.12 | FieldySnuts | winscp is not an ssh servfer |
| 02:27.15 | nvz | ah fuck, wouldnt you know it.. two separate scvhost processes.. that doenst mean squat to me |
| 02:27.21 | cryosphere | but in the man page it looks like I have a to have a username |
| 02:27.37 | PerfDave | doojin: Are you (a) running X, (b) using the binary nvidia driver, (c) getting sensible results from glxgears? |
| 02:27.41 | vincent | nvz: my favorite is when i have 6 or 7 |
| 02:27.58 | doojin | huh? |
| 02:28.01 | vincent | cryosphere: scp requires ssh to work remotely, so your friend needs to scp remote grab |
| 02:28.01 | doojin | a, b |
| 02:28.08 | doojin | PerfDave : I do'nt know about c |
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| 02:28.28 | liable | vitriol: just look at the example config file.. |
| 02:28.37 | cryosphere | so I would have to setup an ssh server on my laptop |
| 02:28.39 | nvz | vincent: there were at least 5 |
| 02:28.44 | vitriol | liable: that went fine |
| 02:28.47 | doojin | PerfDave : I'm now using the binary nvidia driver |
| 02:28.49 | cryosphere | if I want him to be able to upload file to me |
| 02:28.58 | sykopomp | hey, I need some help with installing the debian kernel source tree for installation of the nvidia driver |
| 02:28.59 | PerfDave | doojin: How do you know you're using the nvidia driver? |
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| 02:29.09 | vitriol | problem is that when i boot up wpa_supplicant runs before the NIC comes up |
| 02:29.12 | PerfDave | sykopomp: No you don't. You need to /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 02:29.13 | bob2 | vitriol: http://webusers.physics.umn.edu/~kaminski/thinkpad/debian-sarge-on-thinkpad-t42.html |
| 02:29.16 | v0L7r[-]n | Look I'm the guy that what's to rid trolls |
| 02:29.26 | useruser | cryosphere: yes you need a server, and your friend needs an account on your box |
| 02:29.27 | FieldySnuts | engrish? |
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| 02:29.31 | sykopomp | PerfDave - what? |
| 02:29.32 | cryosphere | ok |
| 02:29.32 | nvz | I hate the fact that I have to wait 2-3 minutes for the retarded ass thing to reboot everytime I change something |
| 02:29.33 | bob2 | vitriol: google is handy |
| 02:29.41 | PerfDave | sykopomp: Type "/msg dpkg nvidia" into your IRC client. |
| 02:29.49 | nvz | I've fell asleep 3 times since I started working on it |
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| 02:30.00 | doojin | PerfDave : I replaced "nv" with "nvidia" in XF86Config-4 |
| 02:30.02 | sykopomp | eh, even if this isn't my linux box? |
| 02:30.02 | FieldySnuts | nvz: be sure to run spybot search and destroy on the stupid thing |
| 02:30.07 | colera | i am using fluxbox, how do i change the font that the windows use like for buttons and stuff? it's huge right now!! ???? |
| 02:30.07 | useruser | nvz: i hope you have a good incentive for doing that job |
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| 02:30.23 | liable | vitriol: oh, cardbus? |
| 02:30.25 | sykopomp | silly question, I should boot up mirc on my linux box.... |
| 02:30.29 | PerfDave | doojin: By hand? |
| 02:30.31 | nvz | useruser: yeah the person who pays for the internet's pc is killing the internet |
| 02:30.33 | doojin | yes |
| 02:30.33 | vitriol | bob2: thats great. exactly what i need (i think) |
| 02:30.35 | doojin | PerfDave : yes |
| 02:30.37 | vitriol | liable: yeah cardbus |
| 02:30.38 | DoppelGanger | sykopomp: funny |
| 02:30.40 | doojin | no |
| 02:30.42 | PerfDave | sykopomp: It doesn't matter. It gives you instructions. |
| 02:30.43 | doojin | PerfDave : no |
| 02:30.46 | PerfDave | doojin: /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 02:30.48 | sykopomp | oh |
| 02:30.53 | useruser | nvz: killing the internet? that's pretty severe :P |
| 02:30.53 | doojin | PerfDave : I replaced with dpkg-reconfigure |
| 02:31.02 | sykopomp | ah thanks, Perf |
| 02:31.23 | cryosphere | is there an easy gui way to set up ssh on my laptop |
| 02:31.37 | ke6isf | cryosphere: There's a very easy way to set up on the command line. |
| 02:31.43 | cryosphere | cool |
| 02:31.46 | DoppelGanger | cryosphere: read the openssh manuals |
| 02:31.52 | cryosphere | ahh |
| 02:31.55 | ke6isf | cryosphere: If it's installed, it's set up. Run it. |
| 02:32.03 | ke6isf | cryosphere: If it's not, 'apt-get install openssh'. |
| 02:32.05 | cryosphere | well i have ssh |
| 02:32.11 | cryosphere | i ssh to work all the time |
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| 02:32.19 | ke6isf | cryosphere: There isn't anything to set up then. |
| 02:32.20 | EruditeH1rmit | cryosphere: dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
| 02:32.22 | nvz | FieldySnuts: I tried this shareware thing called security task manager because I dont know how to use winxp.. it digs deeper than the task monitor in windows, even pulls out text strings from the applications memory space helps narrow down where it came from |
| 02:32.37 | EruditeH1rmit | cryosphere: make sure you set up a server |
| 02:32.41 | ke6isf | !beer DoppelGanger |
| 02:32.42 | FieldySnuts | DoppelGanger: welcome to the weekend in #debian |
| 02:32.45 | PerfDave | doojin: Check your /var/log/XFree86.0.log file to make sure you're using the binary nvidia driver - look for a line which says (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" |
| 02:32.45 | EruditeH1rmit | cryosphere: if thats what you want |
| 02:32.50 | useruser | cryosphere: /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 02:32.55 | DoppelGanger | FieldySnuts: its been like this all week man |
| 02:33.02 | cryosphere | how do I setup the server |
| 02:33.11 | doojin | PerfDave : I'll check |
| 02:33.11 | cryosphere | maybe i already have it |
| 02:33.13 | ke6isf | FieldySnuts: They were out ind roves last weekend and just ddin't stop. |
| 02:33.14 | pureone | vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 02:33.16 | DoppelGanger | did someone press a button and open the floodgates |
| 02:33.26 | FieldySnuts | DoppelGanger: weekends are usually far worse than this |
| 02:33.37 | colera | i am using fluxbox, how do i change the font that the windows use like for buttons and stuff? it's huge right now!! ???? |
| 02:33.46 | FieldySnuts | haven't even seen the gnaa idiots in a while |
| 02:33.47 | DoppelGanger | colera: check the fluxbox webpage |
| 02:33.53 | DoppelGanger | its coveredin the fluxbox faqs |
| 02:33.57 | ke6isf | !tell colera -about fluxbox |
| 02:33.59 | DoppelGanger | and don't ask me where it is LOOK |
| 02:34.07 | nvz | it would really help to know not only how to do things in windows, but wtf all these millions of services in the MSCONFIG are.. cause I am doing it the slow way, taking them off the list one at a time.. and its taking fucking forever |
| 02:34.11 | cryosphere | so i basically have to create a new user |
| 02:34.17 | doojin | PerfDave : I found "(II) LoadModule: "nvidia" in the log file |
| 02:34.28 | colera | DoppelGanger: thank you |
| 02:34.30 | useruser | colera: googling for fluxbox font size, the second hit looks auspicious |
| 02:34.32 | PerfDave | doojin: And it loads successfully? |
| 02:34.53 | doojin | why do you doubt it? |
| 02:35.00 | ntba | nvz sounds like you xp box is full of spyware |
| 02:35.05 | EruditeH1rmit | cryosphere: dpkg-reconfigure ssh, make sure you answer Yes to run sshd server |
| 02:35.08 | PerfDave | doojin: Because you're having problems? :) |
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| 02:35.21 | FieldySnuts | yes, run spybot search and destroy ( be sure to update it ) and with that i'm done giving tips for MS stuff here |
| 02:35.46 | doojin | PerfDave : (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized |
| 02:35.47 | doojin | (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture |
| 02:35.47 | jme | whoa, you're starting to scare me with ms support :) |
| 02:35.56 | pureone | check the hosts files ;) |
| 02:35.59 | ke6isf | nvz: spybot, adaware, and AVG are your friends. Have fun. |
| 02:36.11 | pureone | or use microsofts anti spyware tools :D |
| 02:36.12 | nvz | got adaware and avg.. had them before the incident |
| 02:36.15 | PerfDave | doojin: Have a read through, see if anything looks odd. If not, try glxgears. |
| 02:36.16 | ntba | so hello everybosy just setup 3.1 on my box here and i gotta say one of the easiest linux distros ive installed to date |
| 02:36.17 | jme | also see spywareblaster. just my $.02 |
| 02:36.23 | ke6isf | !lart pureone |
| 02:36.31 | pureone | haha |
| 02:36.33 | nvz | something got past avg obviously |
| 02:36.45 | Pmarc | ntba, welcome and enjoy |
| 02:36.48 | doojin | PerfDave : you look like an expert |
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| 02:36.56 | pureone | no really i like it its got alot of power in it just a shame it eats too much cpu |
| 02:37.03 | ke6isf | ntba: ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US! |
| 02:37.06 | PerfDave | doojin: I just play one on IRC. |
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| 02:37.18 | ntba | ive played around with 3.0 and ive gotta say the debian distro really pulled its stuff togerther on the installer |
| 02:37.29 | PerfDave | ntba: If you think that's good, you should check out 3.1! ;) |
| 02:37.55 | doojin | PerfDave : I can't execute glxgear |
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| 02:38.09 | PerfDave | doojin: You need to install it, and run it from an xterm. |
| 02:38.22 | PerfDave | (or Konsole, or gnome-terminal, or whatever X terminal emulator you prefer) |
| 02:38.29 | doojin | PerfDave : from apt-get? |
| 02:38.49 | PerfDave | doojin: Yes :) |
| 02:39.12 | doojin | can't find the package |
| 02:39.33 | torbs | after hours and hours of headaches i'll try to ask some1 here... i run the 2.6.11-kernel on an amd 2600 and a epox 8KRAi motherboard. during heavy networktraffic the system freezes. only way to power it down is to pull the cord right out of the socket. sometimes it is stable for hours and even days but most of the time not for a very long time. i have tried diff ram so they are alright. also truied 2.4 kernel which also giv |
| 02:39.51 | PerfDave | doojin: You can search for it on http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 02:40.06 | PerfDave | torbs: Uhm, that line got cut off. "also truied 2.4 kernel which also giv" |
| 02:40.07 | ke6isf | torbs: Which one are you using? |
| 02:40.16 | ntba | torbs onboard lan or seperate card? |
| 02:40.16 | candrodor | (Psst, I think s/he means "separate") |
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| 02:40.23 | MobyTurbo | torbs: 2.6.11 is not in Debian stable |
| 02:40.28 | doojin | PerfDave : thanks |
| 02:40.39 | torbs | ntba: 3com gbitcard but have also tried a realrek |
| 02:40.48 | torbs | MobyTurbo: same shit with 2.4 :/ |
| 02:40.58 | ke6isf | torbs: Are you running Sid? |
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| 02:41.26 | torbs | ke6isf: gah lame-alert.. sid ? ;) |
| 02:41.35 | MobyTurbo | torbs: maybe you'll have less problems if you use a Debian kernel instead of downloading one elsewhere |
| 02:41.43 | doojin | PerfDave : I can't find it in any distribution |
| 02:41.45 | Pmarc | ntba, one of the thing I like most in debian is synaptic |
| 02:41.52 | ke6isf | torbs: sid is unstable debian. |
| 02:41.59 | ke6isf | torbs: What distribution are you running? |
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| 02:42.13 | torbs | i am using debian 3.1 now |
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| 02:42.22 | torbs | same error occured with slackware though :/ |
| 02:42.36 | MobyTurbo | torbs: so am I, and the 2.6 kernel is 2.6.8, not 2.6.11 |
| 02:42.40 | PerfDave | torbs: How are you using kernel 2.6.11 in Debian 3.1? It's not in Debian 3.1. |
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| 02:42.49 | PerfDave | doojin: You're searching for package contents, not package names, right? |
| 02:43.03 | ntba | i love apt-get in general so easy imho better than rpm |
| 02:43.13 | doojin | PerfDave : I was searching for package directory |
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| 02:43.29 | torbs | PerfDave: nah i used 2.4.27 yesterday and it crashed. so i compiled 2.6.11 from kernel.org to see if it would fix anything... but..no |
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| 02:44.02 | MobyTurbo | torbs: vanilla 2.6 kernels are not for end-user usage, but rather are now a base for distros to patch into shape. |
| 02:44.02 | vitriol | ok...i seem to only have one problem now with WPA - wpa_supplicant works fine, and i have dhcp setup in /etc/network/interfaces, but i still have to run 'dhclient ath0' after booting up, or my NIC isn't running |
| 02:44.04 | PerfDave | torbs: Why not try the Debian-provided 2.6.8? You rarely have any need to compile kernels in Debian. |
| 02:44.09 | torbs | maybe not "debian-related" this.. just thought i'd ask anyway cua it's really getting on my nerves ;) |
| 02:44.15 | ntba | for instance alsa took forever to install and get running in slack but in debian i just do an apt-get install alsa-base and run alsa conf and ban ive got sound |
| 02:44.18 | sykopomp | nvidia-kernel-common is not an existing package, I can't follow the instructions given by the /msg thing |
| 02:44.27 | vitriol | it doesn't make sense. i checked my config file and it looks right |
| 02:44.30 | PerfDave | doojin: You're looking for a command. This means you're looking for the contents of a package, not a package name. |
| 02:44.38 | Pmarc | ntba, yes, you're probably better with apt-get than anything else from RH... |
| 02:44.38 | Area-51 | i tried "dpkg --purge samba" to remove the configs and stuff so i could reinstall... so i reinstalled and the old configs were still saved, so i purged again and removed /etc/samba but when i reinstall, i cant use samba because the config files are missing... umm, arent those supposed to be unpacked when i install samba? heh... |
| 02:44.46 | doojin | PerfDave : I don't understand |
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| 02:44.58 | PerfDave | doojin: Use the "search the contents of packages" thing! |
| 02:45.08 | MobyTurbo | torbs: if it's not Debian-related then why are you asking in #debian? Try ##linux or something for your generic questions. |
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| 02:45.19 | PerfDave | sykopomp: You *did* read the part of the instructions which tells you about setting up non-free and contrib apt repositories, didn't you? |
| 02:45.20 | colera | anyone know how to install the radeon drivers in debian, like for 3d and everything? |
| 02:45.25 | PerfDave | colera: /msg dpkg ati |
| 02:45.31 | sykopomp | ehZ |
| 02:45.39 | sykopomp | *cough* one sec... |
| 02:45.42 | torbs | MobyTurbo: believe me i have asked pretty much everyehere ;) this was the last outpost ;) |
| 02:45.42 | vitriol | colera: ati has proprietary drivers you can get on ati.com |
| 02:45.48 | cryosphere | ok say I have a 'good' sshd_config file |
| 02:45.55 | cryosphere | how do I add new users? |
| 02:45.58 | vitriol | colera: they even come with a graphical installer...very easy |
| 02:46.04 | MobyTurbo | !they can't help |
| 02:46.09 | FieldySnuts | !they don't know |
| 02:46.09 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 02:46.11 | FieldySnuts | that? |
| 02:46.13 | cryosphere | just like I would add a non-remote user? |
| 02:46.20 | EruditeH1rmit | cryosphere: yes |
| 02:46.24 | MobyTurbo | FieldySnuts: thanks. :-) |
| 02:46.27 | v0L7r[-]n | it say to stop X I do /etc/init.d/[g|x|w|k]dm stop |
| 02:46.27 | PerfDave | vitriol, colera: You probably want to be using the debianised packages, not Ati's installer. |
| 02:46.28 | doojin | PerfDave : you mean glxgears? |
| 02:46.35 | v0L7r[-]n | troll my ass |
| 02:46.39 | PerfDave | doojin: Yes |
| 02:46.39 | colera | vitriol: okay thanks a a lot |
| 02:46.43 | FieldySnuts | v0L7r[-]n: not now maybe later |
| 02:46.45 | Area-51 | why doesnt installing samba unpack default config files? |
| 02:46.46 | vitriol | PerfDave: i wasn't aware there was a debianized package |
| 02:46.51 | vitriol | PerfDave: in non-free ? |
| 02:46.51 | v0L7r[-]n | thanks |
| 02:46.54 | PerfDave | vitriol: /msg dpkg ati |
| 02:47.07 | doojin | PerfDave : 24 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4.800 fps |
| 02:47.08 | doojin | god damn it |
| 02:47.10 | doojin | It's too slow |
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| 02:47.24 | PerfDave | doojin: Hmm, something seems screwed up with your system :) |
| 02:47.28 | cryosphere | how do I know if my ssh server is up |
| 02:47.28 | torbs | dpkg: well not really my meaning to annoy ppl really. was just looking for some pointers or so since i really have googled quite abit. you never know what you may find or irc so ;) |
| 02:47.32 | doojin | PerfDave : I'm currently compiling mplayer |
| 02:47.39 | cryosphere | an listening to connections on port 22 |
| 02:47.39 | Area-51 | torbs: dpkg is a bot... |
| 02:47.40 | doojin | PerfDave : I think that's why glxgear was slow |
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| 02:47.54 | torbs | ohh ^^ |
| 02:48.01 | PerfDave | doojin: On my FX5200, I get: 4461 frames in 5.0 seconds = 892.200 FPS |
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| 02:48.09 | PerfDave | doojin: Uhm, yes, that would be a bad thing. |
| 02:48.10 | Area-51 | how do i mount a linux nfs share to windows 2000? |
| 02:48.16 | FieldySnuts | heh i'm at like 7200 fps, neener |
| 02:48.18 | doojin | PerfDave : I think compiling is consuming more cpu usage |
| 02:48.23 | PerfDave | doojin: And incidentally, you don't need to compile mplayer. /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 02:48.26 | nforbes | PerfDave, At fullscreen? |
| 02:48.30 | PerfDave | doojin: Yes, but it'll have an effect. |
| 02:48.39 | PerfDave | nforbes: At whatever glxgears loads itself at. |
| 02:48.43 | nforbes | Ah |
| 02:48.45 | nforbes | I was going to say |
| 02:48.52 | dan2_ | Area-51: have you tried google? |
| 02:48.58 | Teufel | Does anyone know if there is a way to set thunderbird up so that it forwards messages to a different email? Or is there a way to check your hotmail with thunderbird? |
| 02:48.59 | DoppelGanger | cryosphere: how longyou been using a linux OS |
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| 02:49.05 | Area-51 | dan2_: would i be asking if i did? |
| 02:49.12 | doojin | PerfDave : what? |
| 02:49.14 | ntba | well i just found out where im going to be spenind my lonley friday nights at ....:D the debian channel im starting to like this distro a lot might replace it as my main webserver if all goes well :D |
| 02:49.15 | Area-51 | dan2_: nothing on google is answering my question directly |
| 02:49.21 | FieldySnuts | dan2_: that's his typical attitude/response to actual help, he's kind of a pric |
| 02:49.22 | FieldySnuts | k |
| 02:49.38 | PerfDave | doojin: (a) you don't need to compile mplayer (b) compiling mplayer will negatively effect your system performance including glxgears. |
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| 02:49.59 | FieldySnuts | compiling would heavily screw up that number, but even then it shouldn't be that low. you're using software acceleration. |
| 02:50.11 | doojin | PerfDave : what the hell is marillat? |
| 02:50.13 | PerfDave | Teufel: There are plenty of Hotmail-to-POP3 gateways which you can use with Thunderbird - apt-cache search hotmail |
| 02:50.16 | cryosphere | doppler - 3 years |
| 02:50.32 | Area-51 | thanks for all the help... |
| 02:50.33 | FieldySnuts | but you don't know how to add a user or use sshd? i find that difficult to swallow |
| 02:50.36 | dan2_ | ~tell Area-51 about google windows nfs |
| 02:50.37 | deepfrze | torbs: your problem sounds more like a MB problem |
| 02:50.46 | PerfDave | doojin: He's a very nice man, who makes Debian packages of software which can't be included in Debian proper for reasons of patents. Which is great for those of us who live in countries where software patents don't apply. |
| 02:50.49 | DoppelGanger | then cryosphere Reat The Manuals |
| 02:50.50 | PandaKun | dodod |
| 02:50.52 | PandaKun | jbl yuo here? |
| 02:50.54 | cryosphere | i never had to set up sshd |
| 02:50.57 | DoppelGanger | cryosphere: learn your distro |
| 02:50.58 | vitriol | having auto ath0 and iface ath0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces should make that interface come up and try dhcp right? |
| 02:50.59 | cryosphere | until now |
| 02:50.59 | Teufel | Hm, ok thanks PerfDave |
| 02:51.03 | DoppelGanger | cryosphere: have you ever added users |
| 02:51.09 | DoppelGanger | jesus christ man |
| 02:51.12 | cryosphere | yeah |
| 02:51.14 | vitriol | i keep having to run dhclient ath0 whenever i reboot.... |
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| 02:51.16 | nforbes | doojin, What do you get when you run glxinfo | grep "OpenGL" ? |
| 02:51.17 | torbs | deepfrze: seems to me that motherboards with VIA chipsets is doomed from the start ;) |
| 02:51.26 | FieldySnuts | torbs: yep |
| 02:51.30 | rob_lt | vitriol: it is eth0, not ath0 |
| 02:51.35 | vitriol | wpa_supplicant is working fine, just no dhcp |
| 02:51.36 | nforbes | doojin, Just the first like would be sufficient |
| 02:51.43 | FieldySnuts | it's ath0 if he's got an atheros based wireless card |
| 02:51.44 | cryosphere | when i had to add someone other than root to use my laptop |
| 02:51.44 | ke6isf | vitriol: ath0 is "hang up the modem". |
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| 02:51.52 | doojin | huh |
| 02:51.57 | vitriol | i have an atheros card ;) |
| 02:52.00 | liable | ke6isf: ? |
| 02:52.00 | FieldySnuts | see |
| 02:52.01 | nforbes | Mine says "OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc." |
| 02:52.03 | deepfrze | torbs: I don't know, I have one and it is working just fine |
| 02:52.25 | ke6isf | liable: Standard Hayes command. |
| 02:53.21 | torbs | deepfrze: yeah this one worked well aswell but when i transferred files in highspeed it just freezed and been fuxxored ever since... timeconsuming stuff aswell... think i have tried almost everything ;) |
| 02:53.38 | vitriol | i have dhcp setup for ath0, then the necessary 'pre-up' commands |
| 02:53.49 | vitriol | dhcp doesn't work, but the pre-up commands are running fine |
| 02:54.00 | rob_lt | vitriol: :) I stand corrected |
| 02:54.16 | Teufel | Hmm, just did an apt-cache search hotmail and then installed a thing called Gotmail, but it didn't go into /etc or anything, don't know what I'm sposed to do to get it to work |
| 02:54.24 | jme | i hope you aren't irc'ing while standing. |
| 02:54.34 | liable | vitriol: um, it probably needs to authenticate bfore dhcp runs. |
| 02:54.40 | stew | Teufel: /usr/share/doc/pkgname |
| 02:54.44 | PerfDave | Teufel: Look in /usr/share/doc/gotmail for documentation? |
| 02:55.01 | vitriol | liable: no kidding? ...how do you make it wait? |
| 02:55.12 | vitriol | can you have a sleep command in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 02:55.19 | FieldySnuts | wenas who uses wlan lol |
| 02:55.34 | PerfDave | vitriol: You could put a sleep in a pre-up stanza, possibly. |
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| 02:55.42 | vitriol | ahh |
| 02:55.44 | PerfDave | vitriol: Or call the authentication bit in a pre-up |
| 02:56.06 | vitriol | thats already done in a pre-up |
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| 02:56.12 | vitriol | all i can really do is make it sleep |
| 02:56.40 | nvz | well, I uncovered a trojan on one machine so far. luckily there is systeminternals.com decent free utils for windblows |
| 02:57.15 | FieldySnuts | !hire nvz |
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| 03:01.47 | Teufel | If a manual says to edit the config file in ~/.appname what directory, in general, does the ~ stand for? |
| 03:02.10 | PerfDave | Teufel: ~ is a short way of saying $HOME, usually /home/$USER where $USER is your username. |
| 03:02.10 | ke6isf | Teufel: Your home directory. |
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| 03:02.25 | PerfDave | Teufel: It actually works if you just type "vi ~/.appname" or whatever. |
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| 03:03.29 | sykopomp | umm |
| 03:03.38 | sykopomp | it's asking me for a bus identifier for my video card..... |
| 03:03.52 | sykopomp | do I just give it a random name?... |
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| 03:03.59 | Gnea | sykopomp: lspci -X |
| 03:04.05 | PerfDave | sykopomp: No, you read the damn instructions and leave it blank if you've only got one card. |
| 03:04.19 | sykopomp | I'm reading! it just says "answer the questions" |
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| 03:04.42 | sykopomp | thanks thaugh... |
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| 03:05.38 | sandman | Has anyone here used microdrives? |
| 03:05.41 | sykopomp | though* |
| 03:06.32 | Bhaal | Anyone know why default xfree install in debian wont allow external connections? |
| 03:06.40 | FieldySnuts | uh because that's a very sane security default |
| 03:06.40 | sandman | Like the Hitachi 4GB? I was wondering how long Microdrives will work :) Reason I ask is that I presume they don't run @ as high RPMs are 3.5" drives, and I also don't suppose the drive head a pocket of air to support its lift above the platter |
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| 03:06.59 | rutski89 | I want to send mail via smtp.gmail.com with exim4, can it be done? |
| 03:07.09 | sandman | I'm guessing they're very low RPM, and the head is fixed. Since it's low-power, one might think Microdrives would last a very, very long time |
| 03:07.14 | FieldySnuts | why run your own smtp server? |
| 03:07.16 | Bhaal | FieldySnuts: The machine is not directly connected... How do I change this behaviour? |
| 03:07.28 | FieldySnuts | bhaal no idea |
| 03:07.34 | Bhaal | right |
| 03:07.40 | PerfDave | rutski89: Do you wish to send *all* mail from your machine through smtp.gmail.com, or just some? Does the SMTP server require authentication? |
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| 03:08.15 | rutski89 | PerfDave: I wan't to send all non-local-user mail via smtp.gmail.com, and yes, it does require authing |
| 03:08.57 | PerfDave | rutski89: It's possible, but you'll have to hand-edit the config files. The easiest thing is to do "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config", specify smtp.gmail.com as a smarthost for non-local mail, then read up on exim.org which bit you need to change. |
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| 03:09.05 | MobyTurbo | rutski89: not just smtp auth, but also TLS |
| 03:09.07 | Fixion | I just installed samba, but whenever I try to access the computer from windows, I get a password screen. But I can't get any username/password that is valid on the linux box to work for that screen. Why? |
| 03:09.26 | nevyn | Fixion: did you run smbpasswd user on the linux box? |
| 03:09.35 | PerfDave | Fixion: Read the samba documentation and howtos. It's pretty simple, but needs reading. |
| 03:09.52 | Fixion | PerfDave: hmm... I must have missed that part |
| 03:09.57 | Fixion | I read the one on TLDP |
| 03:09.59 | Teufel | Is there a way to search for a hidden file on your computer? IE /.filename |
| 03:10.00 | Fixion | nevyn: no |
| 03:10.04 | rutski89 | PerfDave: I'm acutally on gentoo, but this is the best place to ask for exim stuff :) I know my way arround the exim config, so its ok |
| 03:10.13 | ke6isf | Teufel: locate .filename comes to mind |
| 03:10.20 | rutski89 | MobyTurbo: bleh, it is isn't it :( Does exim4 support that? |
| 03:10.22 | Fixion | is there a way to configure samba to not ask for a password (public shares)? |
| 03:10.38 | MobyTurbo | rutski89: I think so, I don't know |
| 03:10.39 | FieldySnuts | yes, read the docs |
| 03:10.42 | nevyn | Fixion: yes.. go read the samba docs |
| 03:10.47 | PerfDave | rutski89: For fuck's sake, get your arse out of here if you're not running Debian. |
| 03:11.00 | PerfDave | !tell doojin about msg |
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| 03:11.22 | rutski89 | PerfDave: Acaully I do run debian, on my sever |
| 03:11.30 | FieldySnuts | rutski89: make up your mind. |
| 03:11.31 | Teufel | anyone in here use gotmail to download email from hotmail? I can't find the f'ing config file anywhere for it, search comes up blank for what it says it should be : "~/.gotmailrc" |
| 03:11.37 | PerfDave | rutski89: That's nice. If you've got a Gentoo problem, ask #gentoo |
| 03:11.50 | ke6isf | !beer perfdave |
| 03:11.54 | rutski89 | FieldySnuts: Aucally I should be asking in #exim |
| 03:11.55 | ke6isf | !beer ke6isf |
| 03:11.59 | PerfDave | Teufel: You probably need to *create* the config file if you've just installed gotmail. |
| 03:12.20 | FieldySnuts | or there might be one in /usr/share/docs/gotmail*/ or something |
| 03:12.21 | Teufel | PerfDave: and where am I sposed to find out what syntax I'm sposed to use and junk? |
| 03:12.41 | ke6isf | Teufel: Probably 'man gotmail'. |
| 03:12.43 | PerfDave | Teufel: From the gotmail documentation? "man gotmailrc" may be useful |
| 03:12.45 | rutski89 | PerfDave: Thanks for the help though, cya (sorry, I really didn't mean to offend anyone) |
| 03:12.50 | enigmus | what does aptitude means when it says "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" (unstable, those packages are mozilla-firefox, libstc++...)? |
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| 03:13.16 | Teufel | PerfDave ke6isf: no manual entry for gotmail or gotmailrc |
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| 03:13.27 | PerfDave | Teufel: Did you look in /usr/share/doc/gotmail/ ? |
| 03:13.34 | ke6isf | Teufel: I just installed it, there's a manpage. |
| 03:13.36 | FieldySnuts | damn. we can't handhold you on this, especially since we don't even run it most likely. google, find their home page, etc.... |
| 03:13.48 | FieldySnuts | i wonder if he's running debian. |
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| 03:14.04 | PerfDave | enigmus: It means that untrusted versions will be installed. |
| 03:14.34 | enigmus | PerfDave: great. why is that? it is an official repository, and an official package. |
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| 03:15.08 | PerfDave | enigmus: You're running sid, aren't you? |
| 03:15.13 | enigmus | yes |
| 03:15.24 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite enigmus |
| 03:15.25 | ravenbird | enigmus: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 03:15.41 | PerfDave | enigmus: Then you have the new version of apt which uses GPG by default to check package signatures. And it doesn't trust the packages you're asking it to install. |
| 03:16.04 | Teufel | ke6isf: ahh so I have to put in the command to download emails every time I want to read them with thunderbird? Is there a way to have them automatically forward to a different email? |
| 03:16.34 | enigmus | PerfDave: but why wouldn't it trust libstdc++ coming from a central server? |
| 03:16.34 | ke6isf | ...that was random |
| 03:16.59 | PerfDave | enigmus: Because it's checking digital signatures, not the server IP or name. |
| 03:17.05 | ke6isf | Teufel: No, you can put them in a config file. |
| 03:17.07 | PerfDave | enigmus: Read the APT documentation, check the BTS. |
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| 03:17.46 | enigmus | PerfDave: bts? |
| 03:17.47 | ke6isf | Teufel: Syntax is in the manpage. If the man page didn't get installed, do 'apt-get reinstall gotmail'. |
| 03:17.52 | PerfDave | !btssmite enigmus |
| 03:17.57 | jme | enigmus: you run sid and you don't know what the bts is? |
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| 03:18.01 | jme | wow |
| 03:18.07 | Thanatermesis | how to configure the language environment ? |
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| 03:18.37 | doojin | huh |
| 03:18.43 | doojin | the opengl is too slow in my debian |
| 03:18.50 | doojin | I turned on hardware accelaration |
| 03:18.52 | FieldySnuts | yes blame debian |
| 03:18.59 | jme | please do. |
| 03:19.07 | FieldySnuts | !mhb |
| 03:19.08 | mud | hi all, my cdrom somehow got switched to hdd how do i move it back to hdc? |
| 03:19.19 | sykopomp | problem, my mouse doesn't work anymore |
| 03:19.25 | Teufel | ke6isf: ah, found the manpage... so if I add the forward=newaddress@alkdsaf.com in the config file, it will constantly clear out my hotmail inbox and send them to the other one or do I still have to type in gotmail in the command prompt? |
| 03:19.26 | sykopomp | >.> |
| 03:19.56 | PerfDave | Teufel: You can use cron to run commands at frequent intervals, if that will help you :) |
| 03:20.00 | ke6isf | Teufel: Probably. I've never used it before - I refuse on general principle to carry a hotmail account, ergo I have no need. |
| 03:20.04 | sykopomp | nevermind, got solution |
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| 03:20.28 | Thanatermesis | how to configure the language environment in a clean debootstrap system ? |
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| 03:21.11 | Danar | can anyone help me with doom 3? |
| 03:21.16 | FieldySnuts | ID can |
| 03:21.17 | Danar | my sound is choppy |
| 03:21.18 | enigmus | jme: because of course the initials are obvious... |
| 03:21.25 | PerfDave | Danar: Turn left at the hellspawn, and pick up the shotgun ;) |
| 03:21.47 | Danar | ... |
| 03:21.57 | Teufel | PerfDave: ah thank you |
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| 03:22.07 | Danar | didn't get to a hellspawn :p |
| 03:22.16 | jme | enigmus: maybe not, you get a lot of that just from hanging around in here :) |
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| 03:22.19 | Danar | wanna fix the sound first |
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| 03:22.42 | FieldySnuts | talk to ID support then, it's their closed source app |
| 03:22.46 | PerfDave | Danar: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/ is probably your best (if not only) source of information. |
| 03:23.53 | Thanatermesis | how to set language environment in my system ? |
| 03:24.36 | PerfDave | Thanatermesis: Please don't keep asking the same question over and over again so quickly if you don't get a response. |
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| 03:24.48 | mud | oh well i just changed link "cdrom" to point to hdd instead |
| 03:24.50 | Danar | nothing there |
| 03:25.20 | liable | Thanatermesis: dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
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| 03:25.59 | PerfDave | Danar: There's lots of stuff there :) |
| 03:26.07 | FieldySnuts | again it's ID's app, talk to them, they support it, not us |
| 03:26.09 | cryosphere | whatsa good file-sharing app fro linux |
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| 03:26.13 | Danar | PerfDave: nothing _relavent_ there :p |
| 03:26.18 | Thanatermesis | PerfDave, sorry I have this problem durant 2 weeks and my brain are very HOT, Im finish to "crazy house" |
| 03:26.30 | Thanatermesis | liable, this not set a language environment |
| 03:26.33 | Danar | cryosphere: azureus for torrents, limewire for other stuff |
| 03:26.42 | PerfDave | cryosphere: scp :) |
| 03:27.05 | MobyTurbo | !confuse Thanatermesis |
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| 03:27.05 | Danar | PerfDave: :p |
| 03:27.06 | dpkg | No, who are our pants yesterday, Thanatermesis? trousers of the republic of belarus with extra cream |
| 03:27.08 | PerfDave | Thanatermesis: That's fine. But if nobody's answering, it's because nobody knows, and asking over and over again will just piss people off. If nobody here can help you, /msg dpkg further help |
| 03:27.25 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 03:27.32 | PerfDave | Danar: Read the RTCW and Q3A FAQs as well. |
| 03:27.49 | Thanatermesis | yes, bots are more help... |
| 03:28.00 | PerfDave | Danar: And failing that, then e-mail iD software and ask 'em :) |
| 03:28.01 | Danar | they can be |
| 03:28.14 | kingsley_ | Is there a utility that logs network interface use? |
| 03:28.26 | PerfDave | kingsley_: There are several, I believe. |
| 03:29.03 | kingsley_ | PerfDave: Interesting. Do you happen to recall any of their names, or how to find them? |
| 03:29.15 | TheAsp | ntop |
| 03:29.36 | PerfDave | kingsley_: The only one I've used is iftop, which is more of a real-time application than a logger. |
| 03:29.43 | FieldySnuts | @troll v0L7r[-]n |
| 03:29.53 | PerfDave | kingsley_: I've had a bit of a play with nagios, but it may be overkill. |
| 03:30.01 | PerfDave | FieldySnuts: Dude, that's old already :p |
| 03:30.14 | FieldySnuts | PerfDave: what evah. |
| 03:30.28 | kingsley_ | TheAsp: Can ntop be used as a logger, instead of a real-time monitor? |
| 03:30.29 | liable | iptraf |
| 03:30.46 | TheAsp | kingsley_: it is more like a logger then a real time monitor |
| 03:31.23 | MobyTurbo | !nickometer v0L7r[-]n |
| 03:31.23 | dpkg | 'v0L7r[-]n' is 99.760% lame, mobyturbo |
| 03:31.53 | TheAsp | hah |
| 03:32.04 | FieldySnuts | yikes |
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| 03:32.26 | TheAsp | you have to try to get that high :P |
| 03:32.39 | ke6isf | That much l33t and it's easy, I guess. |
| 03:32.47 | kingsley_ | TheAsp: That's odd, ntop's package description says it works like top, but I need to write entries to a log file. |
| 03:32.59 | TheAsp | kingsley_: how so? |
| 03:33.05 | TheAsp | kingsley_: it logs to mysql |
| 03:33.10 | TheAsp | or a file (i think) |
| 03:33.17 | TheAsp | i had it logging to mysql anyway |
| 03:33.39 | pureone | ive only used darkstat but apt-cache search network | grep stat help find a tool for the job |
| 03:33.50 | pureone | might* |
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| 03:35.01 | johnga1t | anybody here use php4-cli in debian w/ mysql? |
| 03:35.30 | kingsley_ | pureone: darkstat looks interesting and your apt-cache suggestion is fine. Thanks. |
| 03:35.39 | pureone | :) |
| 03:36.03 | Phated | FieldySnuts: *hugs* |
| 03:36.10 | FieldySnuts | yaay |
| 03:38.02 | johnga1t | why is it so dead in here? |
| 03:38.13 | FieldySnuts | user error? |
| 03:38.26 | TBBle | Everyone's gone to the test network? |
| 03:38.47 | MobyTurbo | johnga1t: past 23:30 EDT? |
| 03:38.54 | johnga1t | i suppose ... :) |
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| 03:39.02 | johnga1t | MobyTurbo: that's never stopped things before |
| 03:40.00 | MobyTurbo | does anyone know of an streaming-mp3 player that crashes less often than xmms? |
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| 03:40.34 | mame_ | hi |
| 03:40.54 | jadugar | MobyTurbo: beep might be what your looking for |
| 03:41.01 | mame_ | I have a presario R3000 and my touchpad doesnt work if someone could help me .... |
| 03:41.05 | MobyTurbo | jadugar: beep is buggy too |
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| 03:41.52 | TNKS | hi all. I was wondering, has Debian figured out when to migrate to X.org? Is X.org still the plan? |
| 03:42.12 | TNKS | (I was under the impression that the days of XFree86 were numbered). |
| 03:42.14 | TBBle | TNKS: Last week. |
| 03:42.19 | PerfDave | !topicsmite TNKS |
| 03:42.20 | simonrvn | @topicsmite TNKS |
| 03:42.20 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon TNKS. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 03:42.20 | ravenbird | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon TNKS. And all the people marvelled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 03:42.24 | ke6isf | !tell TNKS about xorg |
| 03:42.25 | simonrvn | oi |
| 03:42.26 | rob_lt | mame_: modprobe usbmouse? |
| 03:42.39 | rob_lt | mame_: sorry, modprobe mousedev |
| 03:42.40 | MobyTurbo | GMTA |
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| 03:42.50 | herbi | its bhaal |
| 03:42.53 | herbi | hide the drugs! |
| 03:42.57 | TNKS | ah. . . sorry. . . I surrender to the topic. |
| 03:43.16 | TBBle | You also have to remember to check the date the topic was set... |
| 03:43.40 | mame_ | rob_lt, i have to restart X ? |
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| 03:43.53 | MobyTurbo | the latest information about xorg in Debian is in the debien-devel-announce mailing list. |
| 03:43.57 | Bhaal | drugs? |
| 03:44.03 | MobyTurbo | s/is/is currently/ |
| 03:44.04 | herbi | what drugs |
| 03:44.10 | herbi | >_> |
| 03:44.11 | herbi | <_< |
| 03:44.14 | MobyTurbo | Bhaal: drugs? What does that word mean? |
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| 03:44.35 | Bhaal | MobyTurbo: Ask herbi |
| 03:44.44 | MobyTurbo | Bhaal: heh |
| 03:44.44 | rob_lt | mame_: you shouldn't. |
| 03:44.57 | mud | my dog ate my stash man |
| 03:45.05 | ke6isf | stoned puppy! |
| 03:45.19 | mame_ | rob-away, then it doesnt work :(' |
| 03:45.37 | mame_ | oups rob_lt then it doesnt work |
| 03:46.08 | jochensp | are there eny 2.6.12 linux kernel deb already? |
| 03:46.26 | rob_lt | mame_: hrmm.... I'm on a thinkpad, and I don't have anything special in my XF86Config-4 file, just the mousedev module loaded for the touchpad to work |
| 03:46.49 | Overand | any suggestions for a *nix infobot that *isn't* 'blootbot' or 'infobot' ? |
| 03:46.50 | Overand | a script for irssi or a .tcl for eggdrop would work, but i'd rather not go the eggdrop route |
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| 03:47.56 | rob_lt | mame_: is that an amd64? |
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| 03:48.00 | mame_ | rob_lt, I'm on an ubuntu right now and a xorg X server .... |
| 03:48.10 | mame_ | rob_lt, presario R3000 |
| 03:48.52 | rob_lt | mame_: well, you really should be in #ubuntu |
| 03:48.56 | mame_ | I dont think so because everytime i tried to install a 64bit version it didnt work .... and I had a message saying that i have to install a 32 bits version |
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| 03:49.53 | Agabus | i want to setup a user account that can only be used via ssh (secureftp), and once logged in to that account i want only a specified directory and its sub-directories available. nothing above that. for example /home/share. can anyone help? |
| 03:50.01 | rob_lt | mame_: from what I read, you might need the synaptics xfree module. See if ubuntu has a xorg-driver-synaptics or something similar |
| 03:50.01 | mame_ | rob_lt, i know but they couldn't help me more ... and on this computer with a pure debian the touchpad was working and now with ubuntu it doesnt ... |
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| 03:50.12 | MobyTurbo | !they don't know |
| 03:50.12 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 03:50.35 | rob_lt | mame_: you could also try using a knoppix CD, see if the touchpad works there, and email the xorg.conf file to yourself if it does. |
| 03:50.44 | achew22 | are there any debian zealots who would be willing to help me with a problem involving MythTV (http://mythtv.sf.net)? |
| 03:50.54 | mame_ | rob_lt, I'll try this ... |
| 03:51.03 | PerfDave | achew22: Calling people zealots probably isn't a good way to enlist their help :) |
| 03:51.03 | mame_ | knoppix uses xorg now ? |
| 03:51.50 | achew22 | PerfDave: I have been in 2 other #linux channels and the really smart ones call themselvs zealots |
| 03:51.53 | TheAsp | even if they DO use myth :) |
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| 03:52.29 | daaku | quick question, how do you type ^M (Control-M) in the terminal? |
| 03:52.45 | achew22 | isn't that how u type it? control-m |
| 03:52.47 | rob_lt | mame_: oh yeah, maybe not. I'd try the xorg-driver-synaptics package first, you can always remove it. |
| 03:52.58 | PerfDave | achew22: It's a very loaded term, some people would take offense at it. |
| 03:53.04 | rob_lt | mame_: although, there really shouldn't be much difference in the conf files |
| 03:53.10 | mame_ | rob_lt, already installed but not working |
| 03:53.18 | MobyTurbo | daaku: ^V^M |
| 03:53.20 | achew22 | okay, no offence intended |
| 03:53.30 | daaku | MobyTurbo: nice! thanks |
| 03:53.31 | mame_ | rob_lt, really weird .... |
| 03:53.41 | achew22 | PerfDave: may I pm you? |
| 03:53.45 | doojin | I can't install mplayer-586 |
| 03:54.08 | PerfDave | achew22: I'd rather you didn't. |
| 03:54.26 | rob_lt | mame_: did you restart X after installing that package? Maybe even a reboot? |
| 03:54.35 | achew22 | AAW I STUBED MY TOE!@!! |
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| 03:54.41 | mame_ | rob_lt, nope ... |
| 03:54.46 | mame_ | I'll try that |
| 03:54.51 | achew22 | oowch... |
| 03:54.55 | Teufel | I read the manual for cron and crontab, and I guess I still don't get it. How would I make a command that I want to be executed like... minutely? |
| 03:55.03 | mame_ | and I'm going to sleep ... It's 6 am here |
| 03:55.11 | ke6isf | achew22: Don't do that then. |
| 03:55.30 | achew22 | so... stubing my toe wont fix my myth problem? |
| 03:55.54 | TheAsp | doubtful |
| 03:56.03 | ke6isf | achew22: Not likely, no. |
| 03:56.07 | achew22 | darn |
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| 03:57.06 | achew22 | when i type mythtv into the console thing - it returns "Segmentation fault" someone told me that I would have to reinstall debian to fix that. can anyone tell me what I need to do |
| 03:57.11 | rob_lt | doojin: what's the problem? |
| 03:57.17 | PerfDave | Teufel: Are you looking at "man 5 crontab" or "man crontab"? |
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| 03:57.32 | ke6isf | !tell achew22 -about segfault |
| 03:57.51 | Teufel | PerfDave: man crontab |
| 03:58.09 | PerfDave | Teufel: man crontab is for the executable, man 5 crontab is for the config file :) |
| 03:58.15 | achew22 | um... whats the command ke6isf to get it to tell me? |
| 03:58.37 | ke6isf | achew22: what, for the bot to tell you about segfault? |
| 03:58.47 | Teufel | PerfDave: k I'll read up on this thanks |
| 03:58.49 | achew22 | sig11 |
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| 03:59.01 | achew22 | help me with sig11 |
| 03:59.03 | ke6isf | achew22: /msg dpkg sig11 |
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| 03:59.09 | achew22 | okay thx |
| 03:59.11 | rob_lt | computer? |
| 03:59.13 | deadcat | so now we know what software was used for all those ssh attack we get... )= |
| 03:59.17 | rob_lt | computer? |
| 03:59.24 | rob_lt | j/k |
| 03:59.24 | light_punch2 | mac os X able to read and write on ext3 file system? |
| 03:59.36 | deadcat | light_punch2: doubt it |
| 03:59.55 | deadcat | light_punch2: best was is install mol |
| 04:00.04 | MobyTurbo | light_punch2: the Unix file system it supports is FFS. |
| 04:00.18 | achew22 | could this be caused by me running linux in a 64bit with a 32bit install? |
| 04:00.30 | light_punch2 | holy crap, deadcat you still on line? i saw you this morning. |
| 04:00.46 | Teufel | What does the wildcare $ do again? |
| 04:00.48 | deadcat | light_punch2: i have irssi running on screen |
| 04:00.49 | kamaraju | How do I automatically turn off join/parted messages whenever I join #debian? Right now, I can turn them off by rightclicking on the tab and selecting #debian -> show join/parted messages. But Doing this everytime is very cumbersome. |
| 04:00.55 | MobyTurbo | (FFS = (Berkeley) Fast File System, not a certain acronym :-) ) |
| 04:00.57 | rob_lt | Teufel: ends with |
| 04:01.04 | deadcat | Teufel: end of line |
| 04:01.11 | kamaraju | I am using xchat |
| 04:01.33 | doojin | rob_lt : could you show me your sources.list? |
| 04:01.33 | doojin | I fucked up mine |
| 04:01.36 | pureone | kamarju i think its in the settings somewhere |
| 04:02.21 | rob_lt | !tell doojin about marillat |
| 04:02.25 | achew22 | ke6isf: could runing a 32bit install on a 64bit processor cause a sig11 error? |
| 04:02.27 | doojin | oh no |
| 04:02.34 | ke6isf | achew22: Dunno. Which distro are you running? |
| 04:02.39 | doojin | rob_lt : I want original one |
| 04:02.53 | doojin | send me sources.list |
| 04:02.58 | rob_lt | doojin: join #flood |
| 04:03.15 | pureone | doojin you could run apt-setup |
| 04:03.46 | achew22 | ke6isf: Debian linux |
| 04:03.49 | kamaraju | pureone: I already checked the preferences tab. I could not find anything there. I also read xchat FAQ online. Nothing in there too. |
| 04:04.01 | ke6isf | achew22: Yes, but Sarge, Sid, Etch?... |
| 04:04.08 | ke6isf | achew22: That said, it could just be a fault in the myth code. |
| 04:04.29 | achew22 | ke6isf: I think I'm running sarge, is there any way to check |
| 04:05.25 | rob_lt | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 04:05.35 | rob_lt | 3.1 is sarge |
| 04:05.37 | achew22 | 3.1 |
| 04:05.51 | achew22 | ke6isf: I AM running sarge |
| 04:06.09 | ke6isf | achew22: Indeed, you are. |
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| 04:06.19 | achew22 | :D feeling better about linux already |
| 04:06.29 | ke6isf | achew22: At any rate, segfaults are mysterious. Code can be weird on any end. |
| 04:06.52 | achew22 | so is reinstalling debian my only choice? |
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| 04:07.26 | ke6isf | It's probably more like a non-option. It's like rebuilding your house because you had a faulty power receptacle. |
| 04:07.29 | rob_lt | achew22: re-install will not make any difference |
| 04:07.45 | rob_lt | *likely not |
| 04:07.46 | achew22 | i rebuilt my house 2 times because one of my plugs wasn't working |
| 04:08.09 | ke6isf | ,,,right. |
| 04:08.39 | achew22 | we got it the 2nd time :D |
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| 04:08.41 | deadcat | achew22: you too? damn i thought i was the only one |
| 04:09.26 | doojin | rob_lt : how did you know there'is marillat's server? |
| 04:09.28 | achew22 | deadcat: Its refreshing to see another inovater |
| 04:09.40 | deadcat | amen |
| 04:10.39 | nvz | well thats one pc cleaned.. though all the XP boxen have ports 1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS and 5000/tcp open UPnP open and I have yet to figure out why. should be blocked from outside and I see no activity, so its not a real big deal |
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| 04:10.54 | doojin | my opengl is slow |
| 04:10.55 | doojin | help me |
| 04:10.58 | rob_lt | doojin: it's fairly common knowledge, but in addition to that, if you search at apt-get.org, it comes up. |
| 04:11.12 | deadcat | doojin: card, xfree/xorg? |
| 04:11.12 | TBBle | doojin: Maybe you should get out and push? |
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| 04:11.32 | rob_lt | doojin: glxinfo | grep direct |
| 04:11.33 | doojin | rob_lt : It's pretty hard for a beginner to know that |
| 04:11.49 | rob_lt | doojin: well, now you know, and you can tell the next guy that asks ;) |
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| 04:11.58 | doojin | direct rendering: Yes |
| 04:12.14 | doojin | what? |
| 04:12.17 | doojin | It says yes |
| 04:12.39 | doojin | X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
| 04:12.40 | rob_lt | doojin: also, the marillat repo is mentioned in the first hit on google for "debian mplayer" |
| 04:12.40 | doojin | 50 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10.000 FPS |
| 04:12.50 | doojin | see that |
| 04:12.57 | doojin | that's the result after I executed glxgears |
| 04:13.03 | rob_lt | doojin: ok, as deadcat asked, what type of card do you have? |
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| 04:13.11 | deadcat | doojin: /topic, DONT FUCKING paste here |
| 04:13.12 | doojin | Geforce 4 420 Go 32MB |
| 04:13.16 | doojin | It's for laptops |
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| 04:13.27 | doojin | deadcat : didn't paste but used /exec -o |
| 04:13.36 | MobyTurbo | doojin: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 04:13.36 | empty | So I am a retard |
| 04:13.38 | deadcat | doojin: DONT |
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| 04:13.51 | empty | well not a retard but more from the server world than the GUI world in Linux land |
| 04:14.07 | empty | How does one connect to an X server on a remote host? |
| 04:14.16 | deadcat | empty: ssh -X |
| 04:14.17 | empty | Tunneling apps over SSH sucks ass |
| 04:14.24 | empty | that easy? |
| 04:14.25 | deadcat | empty: try vnc |
| 04:14.26 | TheAsp | empty: XDMCP? |
| 04:14.41 | TBBle | DISPLAY=remotehost:0.0 program? |
| 04:14.48 | empty | deadcat, does -X just permit X11 forwarding? |
| 04:15.03 | deadcat | empty: ya. so you might want vnc or something |
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| 04:15.14 | rob_lt | there is also an option for compression in there somewhere, I think |
| 04:15.14 | empty | deadcat, OK, thanks |
| 04:15.19 | TheAsp | XDMCP for lan, VNC for wan |
| 04:15.35 | empty | XDMCP then :) Thanks |
| 04:15.44 | deadcat | but i dont see why you want remote X. it sucks |
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| 04:15.53 | Agabus | i want to setup a user account that can only be used via ssh (secureftp), and once logged in to that account i want only a specified directory and its sub-directories available. nothing above that. for example /home/share. can anyone help? |
| 04:15.53 | TheAsp | emag: xdmcp is a protocol |
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| 04:15.57 | TheAsp | err |
| 04:16.15 | empty | deadcat, so I can open my newsreader etc on my fileserver without wheeling my chair over |
| 04:16.24 | TheAsp | empty: you need your dm set to allow connections and run X -query foo or Xnest -query foo |
| 04:16.40 | PandaKun | yo |
| 04:16.43 | rob_lt | deadcat: I used to remote mathematica from home to the university, since their budget forced them to use maple. |
| 04:16.45 | deadcat | empty: bullshit. since you're familiar with command than gui |
| 04:16.47 | PandaKun | can anyone pm me and teach me how to compile a 32 application on a 64bit? |
| 04:16.54 | TheAsp | empty: and i'd firewall it if you can |
| 04:17.04 | deadcat | rob_lt: thats why you download illegal softwares |
| 04:17.16 | deadcat | PandaKun: fuck no. read the fucking /topic |
| 04:17.18 | TBBle | Xnest -qeury foo! Neat! Thanks. ^_^ |
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| 04:17.47 | PandaKun | sec |
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| 04:17.53 | PandaKun | *reads* |
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| 04:18.07 | rob_lt | deadcat: I had a valid license for mathematica at home, and although I had root at the uni, I didn't feel comfortable installing on their machines. |
| 04:18.14 | Liudy | Hi,Is there fvwm-themes packages in debian? |
| 04:18.19 | deadcat | rob_lt: hahah |
| 04:18.22 | daffy-pkf | lo |
| 04:18.30 | deadcat | Liudy: apt-cache search fvwm |
| 04:18.35 | empty | deadcat, um, thanks- what's bullshit anyway? |
| 04:18.47 | deadcat | empty: no clue |
| 04:19.12 | empty | deadcat, aub sucks, I hat TIN/TRN/SLRN, Pan is my friend and it let me import my score file whfrom XNews when I migrated from Windows |
| 04:19.37 | Liudy | deadcat: I have do that,but I can not see fvwm-themes,I am useing sarge. |
| 04:19.40 | daffy-pkf | can someone help me? i just made a fresh install using sarge netinst cdrom, and upgraded to sid, i installed x-window-system-core and fluxbox, but fluxbox doesn't seem to register as a window manager (when x starts it starts with xterm as a client, it's not registered in alternatives...) |
| 04:19.44 | deadcat | empty: whats wrong with doing those on your local machine? |
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| 04:20.13 | deadcat | Liudy: then there aint no fvwm themes |
| 04:20.19 | furrywolf | daffy-pkf: the moral is, don't use sid. |
| 04:20.25 | deadcat | daffy-pkf: startx `whereis fluxbox` |
| 04:20.26 | empty | deadcat, when I save files I want them saved on the remote, plus I like to queue a bunch then open Pan again on the desktop and let it DL while I take off with my laptop |
| 04:21.05 | daffy-pkf | deadcat, yes that's what i did, but i'd like not have to do that |
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| 04:21.18 | daffy-pkf | furrywolf, yes but xorg is not in testing |
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| 04:21.21 | deadcat | daffy-pkf: .xsession |
| 04:21.44 | deadcat | daffy-pkf: then wait a while |
| 04:22.04 | daffy-pkf | deadcat, i know how to do that, but i'd like to manage my wm with alternative... isn't it possible? |
| 04:22.23 | deadcat | daffy-pkf: ya. probably |
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| 04:22.57 | deadcat | daffy-pkf: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager didnt work? |
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| 04:23.18 | daffy-pkf | it syas there are no alternatives for x-window-manager |
| 04:23.31 | daffy-pkf | if i install another one than fluxbox there is one |
| 04:23.42 | deadcat | daffy-pkf: you're fucked |
| 04:23.59 | daffy-pkf | :'( |
| 04:24.15 | sess | finally got tablet working in debian after a month |
| 04:24.19 | sess | turned out it was on event0 |
| 04:24.24 | sess | woulda never checked that |
| 04:24.47 | TheAsp | hah |
| 04:24.48 | deadcat | sess: please clarify |
| 04:25.08 | sess | now my only concern is that my touchpad on the laptop is using /dev/psaux, but /dev/psaux if I recall correctly is the same as /dev/input/mice |
| 04:25.10 | rob_lt | sess: a wacom or whatever they are called? |
| 04:25.16 | sess | yep, wacom graphire |
| 04:25.33 | daffy-pkf | just one more question: should i report that as a bug of fluxbox? |
| 04:25.36 | rob_lt | sess: I troll around in awe at cgtalk.com once every couple days |
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| 04:26.04 | deadcat | daffy-pkf: sure |
| 04:26.10 | sess | and that is making relative mode act funny with the cursor |
| 04:26.19 | daffy-pkf | ok thanks |
| 04:26.19 | sess | so what should I use for my touchpad? |
| 04:26.20 | kevinv | anyone here have a fast CPU good for baking a kernel? |
| 04:26.30 | nvz | sess: your finger |
| 04:26.31 | deadcat | kevinv: ya |
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| 04:27.09 | kevinv | deadcat: could you help me with adding a bootsplash patch to the Debian Sarge 2.8 kernel? |
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| 04:27.21 | rixth | !tell rixth about strong pasword |
| 04:27.43 | deadcat | kevinv: do you care about the image after your machine is booted up? or you just want the splash DURING bootup? |
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| 04:27.57 | sess | eg, is there a /dev/psaux thats only for ps2 mice? |
| 04:28.00 | deadcat | kevinv: and a fast cpu has nothing to do with patching |
| 04:28.08 | kevinv | deadcat: the 'bootsplash.org' patch as in what SuSE has. |
| 04:28.10 | sess | or a way to relink /dev/psaux so that it doesn't respond to all mice? |
| 04:28.17 | nvz | kevinv: let me help you, by saying there is no Debian Sarge 2.8 kernel |
| 04:28.18 | sess | err respond from |
| 04:28.26 | deadcat | kevinv: so you just want some cool graphic DURING bootup right? |
| 04:28.44 | kevinv | deadcat: I perfer Debian over SuSE any day, but I like the console backdrop. |
| 04:28.51 | nvz | sess: /dev/psaux is a legacy device, when the driver is loaded, it just connects it to the input driver |
| 04:28.57 | kevinv | deadcat: extactly |
| 04:28.58 | deadcat | kevinv: so you DO want images in console as well? |
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| 04:29.08 | kevinv | deadcat: yes |
| 04:29.15 | rob_lt | sess: do you want to disable the touchpad? |
| 04:29.27 | sess | no, I want to be able to use the touchpad and the wacom |
| 04:29.27 | nvz | sess: modern kernels handle all input devices joysticks, mice, keyboards.. etc all through the input layer |
| 04:29.27 | deadcat | kevinv: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/splashy/ just install this. |
| 04:29.42 | kevinv | deadcat: thanks for your help |
| 04:29.48 | sess | nvz: /dev/psaux reads my usb mouse when I plug it in |
| 04:30.04 | sess | which isn't a big deal, its jsut that relative mode with teh wacom doesn't work Quite right |
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| 04:30.06 | TheAsp | deadcat: neat, how well does it wor? |
| 04:30.09 | sess | and Im pretty sure thats why |
| 04:30.11 | deadcat | kevinv: and this theme http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/themes/debiansplashy.tar.gz, quite easy to config |
| 04:30.16 | sess | however, absolute mode works great |
| 04:30.45 | deadcat | TheAsp: just dpkg -i the mofo, and put that theme to /etc/splashy/xxxx then make sure the config file is pointing to the right file and reboot (= |
| 04:31.04 | kevinv | deadcat: is there a screenshot of splashy in action, and how customizable is it? |
| 04:31.06 | TheAsp | deadcat: yes, but that requires a) a reboot, b) being present during the boot |
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| 04:31.34 | deadcat | kevinv: there are few themes currently. it looks just like bootsplash without all the patching |
| 04:31.34 | TheAsp | deadcat: i'm sure my box will cack next reboot, with the state of sid on my box right now |
| 04:31.45 | v0L7r[-]n | de de de de Debian |
| 04:31.56 | deadcat | TheAsp: hahaha |
| 04:32.01 | deadcat | v0L7r[-]n: shut the fuck up |
| 04:32.05 | TheAsp | heh |
| 04:32.12 | v0L7r[-]n | thank you |
| 04:32.16 | kevinv | deadcat: how easy is it to create themes? |
| 04:32.30 | v0L7r[-]n | Debian kicks some serious ass |
| 04:32.36 | deadcat | kevinv: i dont know. |
| 04:32.45 | kevinv | deadcat: Is it compatible with almost every debian-based distro as well |
| 04:33.13 | sess | pie hole |
| 04:33.14 | deadcat | kevinv: ya i think so |
| 04:33.28 | kevinv | deadcat: I noticed Ubuntu LiveCDs have the official bootsplash, plus MEPIS has it by default. |
| 04:33.41 | deadcat | kevinv: debian DONT |
| 04:33.44 | kevinv | deadcat: But I perfer just debian, by itself. |
| 04:33.55 | v0L7r[-]n | thats right some serious pie hola |
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| 04:34.52 | kevinv | deadcat: I am doing debian installations for people, and they just hate that awful text scrolling by. |
| 04:35.13 | deadcat | kevinv: then install splashy |
| 04:35.14 | kevinv | deadcat: Main reason for even wanting this. |
| 04:35.17 | kevinv | I |
| 04:35.35 | kevinv | I'll have to dual-boot to install, I'm in SuSE :( |
| 04:35.35 | deadcat | kevinv: let me reboot my ibook and use my camera to record it if you want. |
| 04:35.45 | deadcat | kevinv: you pussy |
| 04:35.58 | kevinv | deadcat: okay, please. |
| 04:36.10 | deadcat | k. will take a while since i am using the ibook |
| 04:36.15 | kevinv | deadcat: I only have SuSE because of my job. |
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| 04:37.30 | drcodedd2 | HI all |
| 04:37.32 | drcodedd2 | any one up |
| 04:37.36 | Overand | bi |
| 04:37.37 | nvz | nope |
| 04:37.38 | Overand | ... |
| 04:37.38 | Overand | no |
| 04:37.40 | Overand | heh |
| 04:37.42 | Overand | 'bi' |
| 04:37.50 | nvz | you will have to try a different FOSS network |
| 04:37.54 | nvz | this one is sleeping |
| 04:38.23 | manu | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.48 | drcodedd2 | I am looking for voice/fax answer machine |
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| 04:39.09 | drcodedd2 | that is client/server |
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| 04:41.45 | deadcat | kevinv: converting the video clip |
| 04:41.58 | kevinv | deadcat: okay |
| 04:42.12 | kevinv | deadcat: using Linux? |
| 04:42.34 | deadcat | ya |
| 04:42.59 | kevinv | what program? |
| 04:43.41 | deadcat | kevinv: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/video/demo/splashy.avi |
| 04:43.45 | deadcat | kevinv: mencoder |
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| 04:44.15 | deadcat | kevinv: splashy only works during shutdown/reboot for me, startup dont work since i have /usr in a diff partition. it will work if your /usr is the same partition as / |
| 04:44.20 | kevinv | using wget for the avi |
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| 04:45.50 | kevinv | deadcat: sorry, I got to go, there's a huge storm here. |
| 04:46.14 | kevinv | deadcat: I'll be on again another time, but I got the video, and the splashy URL, thanks |
| 04:46.18 | deadcat | kevinv: stop bitching |
| 04:46.25 | deadcat | take the storm like a man |
| 04:46.34 | sanxiyn | haha |
| 04:46.49 | deadcat | sanxiyn: i give good tips (= |
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| 04:47.15 | sanxiyn | Take the storm like a woman. |
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| 04:48.22 | bob2 | anyone happen to know how to insert my name at the bottom of a wikipedia talk section? |
| 04:48.37 | sanxiyn | bob2: ~~~ or ~~~~. |
| 04:48.44 | sanxiyn | bob2: The later inserts date too. |
| 04:49.06 | bob2 | ah, thanks |
| 04:49.57 | zorton | has anyone run into a totaly grey screen with xesrver-xorg? |
| 04:50.04 | deadcat | zorton: no |
| 04:50.38 | zorton | shame :0 |
| 04:50.57 | deadcat | thats why they in sid |
| 04:51.18 | zorton | yap |
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| 04:52.07 | zorton | the good news is that I can drop out of it quickly :) |
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| 04:52.48 | deadcat | zorton: same here. back to xfree on ppc |
| 04:52.59 | herbi | ah crap |
| 04:53.01 | TBBle | zorton: I've seen totally white, not totally grey... Check the bugreports for xserver-xorg for libvgahw.a, and try that. |
| 04:53.03 | zorton | well I would prefer not to do that here |
| 04:53.18 | zorton | TBBle: thanks for hte suggestion, let me take a look at that |
| 04:53.23 | herbi | i did a dist-upgrade this morning before i logged into irc to see that topic |
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| 04:53.39 | herbi | and now libwxgtk2.4 wont install, so bittornado, amule and gimageview are all dead heh |
| 04:53.46 | nono31 | How do I know my actual screen resolution (X) ? |
| 04:53.54 | deadcat | xrandr |
| 04:54.00 | TheAsp | xdpyinfo? |
| 04:54.01 | sanxiyn | herbi: Yes. |
| 04:54.17 | herbi | lol stupid me |
| 04:54.26 | herbi | i usually log into irc first |
| 04:54.29 | deadcat | herbi: you know it |
| 04:54.31 | sanxiyn | (libwxgtk2.4 is now named libwxgtk2.4-1, if you are curious.) |
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| 04:54.36 | herbi | today i as thinking "hey, what could go wrong" |
| 04:54.38 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what up girl |
| 04:54.45 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: HARRY POTTER IS OUT WEEEEEE!!!! |
| 04:54.47 | herbi | sanxiyn, yeah i saw |
| 04:54.49 | sanxiyn | TwistedEmotions: Yes! |
| 04:54.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: fuck him |
| 04:54.59 | sanxiyn | TwistedEmotions: Please, no spoiler. |
| 04:55.05 | TwistedEmotions | Errr... no thanks |
| 04:55.14 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: the only books i read are porn, school, and school books with porn |
| 04:55.14 | nono31 | TheAsp: thx |
| 04:55.17 | TwistedEmotions | sanxiyn: havent read it.. was kidding. |
| 04:55.20 | herbi | i blame myself really |
| 04:55.33 | sanxiyn | I heard that someone dies. |
| 04:55.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Errr... you go to same school as me you whore? What books? |
| 04:55.45 | nono31 | deadcat: thx too |
| 04:55.49 | TwistedEmotions | I heard a bunch more live.. |
| 04:56.07 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: there arent any. thats why i dont read much (= |
| 04:56.08 | sanxiyn | Ah, as in someone dies in HBP. |
| 04:56.23 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: my cpu fan is all fuckered up... ;P keeps making this annoying noise... |
| 04:56.30 | sanxiyn | (Just like Sirius died in Order of Phoenix) |
| 04:56.31 | TBBle | That's what they said about Order Of The Phoenix too. |
| 04:56.33 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: laptop? |
| 04:56.38 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I fix it by stabbing it with a fork a few times... |
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| 04:56.44 | deadcat | hahaah |
| 04:56.45 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: desktop |
| 04:57.16 | TwistedEmotions | I heard micheal jackson touches harry with his wand.. |
| 04:57.27 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: can you bring your laptop on monday? and meet me at the lib? i want to upgrade my airport card firmware using windows. |
| 04:57.31 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: fucking annoying ass noise... gonna have to buy a new fan tommorow.. |
| 04:57.32 | sanxiyn | Too bad Harry Potter ain't porn. I heard that some Chinese pirate edition contains porn. |
| 04:57.34 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: more than just touch |
| 04:57.45 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: will do. |
| 04:57.59 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: k. i will wkae up early on monday then |
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| 04:58.07 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: die. |
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| 04:58.23 | poncha | i know this may not be the right place to ask this... but i will try anyway (sorry for offtopic)... any idea how to set a *windows* keymap to send unicode utf8 to the terminal application (i use securecrt on this box) instead of local charset? [i know this aint #windows but there's a chance someone here needed to write text to remote terminal from windows some time ? :) ] |
| 04:58.25 | TBBle | sanxiyn: Does Amazon carry that edition? |
| 04:58.30 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I have to be awake to deposit a check for my dad by 9am. |
| 04:58.33 | sanxiyn | TBBle: I don't think so? |
| 04:58.44 | TwistedEmotions | poncha: start... |
| 04:58.45 | TBBle | poncha: Get PuTTY, it supports it. |
| 04:58.51 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah |
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| 04:59.12 | TwistedEmotions | poncha: start...run... "command" ... then type in del *,* ... then install debian ; ) WEEEEE |
| 04:59.12 | Hostile | thunderbird: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 04:59.17 | Hostile | how do I fix that? |
| 04:59.22 | poncha | TBBle, securecrt does get unicode when i paste (from buffer).. but when i just type ... :/ |
| 04:59.22 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah. |
| 04:59.28 | zorton | TBBle: that did it, thanks for the pointer |
| 04:59.37 | Igor2Code | hi, i have a software which would embed php, but it can't find -lphp; in whcich package -lphp is in on debian? |
| 04:59.39 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: man. i was giving bad advice to people here earlier. hahah |
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| 04:59.50 | sanxiyn | poncha: Configure SecureCRT properly. |
| 04:59.51 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I need you to take a look at my desktop when you get a chance.. |
| 04:59.58 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you ass.. hahaha... i love it. |
| 05:00.00 | TBBle | poncha: Yup, but PuTTY's free, and you can tell it what encoding to send to the other end, and it's open source, and it's free. |
| 05:00.02 | poncha | TwistedEmotions, i have debian here (dualboot :)) but i have there troubles with mouse now , cant really work there :*( |
| 05:00.08 | LinuxNIT-laptop | what options should i use in fstab so that a partition will mount at boot and be accesible by a regular user? |
| 05:00.12 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: sure. |
| 05:00.14 | TwistedEmotions | poncha: usb? |
| 05:00.18 | poncha | yeah |
| 05:00.25 | poncha | ms explorer 4.0a |
| 05:00.37 | sanxiyn | LinuxNIT-laptop: You want "defaults" and "user". |
| 05:00.41 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: when I ssh I cant get it to move the cursur all the way to the right... |
| 05:00.42 | poncha | won't move horizontally... only vertical |
| 05:00.47 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i got a gig doing web programming for my basketball instructor. doing their football related page. |
| 05:00.59 | LinuxNIT-laptop | k thanks ill try that |
| 05:01.00 | Hostile | what package comes with libmozjs.so? |
| 05:01.13 | TwistedEmotions | poncha: hahah thats the gayest thing I have ever heard... just get the motherboard to load up the usb support... that's what I did... |
| 05:01.26 | Igor2Code | where is -lphp4? :) |
| 05:01.27 | sanxiyn | Hostile: Many. (Including mozilla-firefox) |
| 05:01.27 | TwistedEmotions | poncha: not all mohterboards have it but some to.. |
| 05:01.45 | sanxiyn | Hostile: If you want to compile against it, you want mozilla-dev. |
| 05:01.46 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: a gig? |
| 05:01.49 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: of what? |
| 05:02.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: contract work? |
| 05:02.05 | poncha | TwistedEmotions, hm... i'll look for such option.. but the board here is somewhat 4 yo or so... asus though |
| 05:02.07 | herbi | oh no! |
| 05:02.07 | sanxiyn | Igor2Code: -lphp4? No such thing. |
| 05:02.09 | herbi | gaim is gone too |
| 05:02.18 | herbi | now i wont be able to contact the 3 people on my icq list... |
| 05:02.21 | sanxiyn | Igor2Code: phpize and related tools are in php4-dev. |
| 05:02.25 | Hostile | sanxiyn, ok..I just installed mozilla-thunderbird and it says it cant find libmozjs.so but its in its directory |
| 05:02.28 | Igor2Code | sanxiyn: thanx :) |
| 05:02.37 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: what? A gig of contract work? I hope they havent started contracting people by the kb... |
| 05:03.02 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no. gig. i dont know if thats how you spell the word |
| 05:03.02 | sanxiyn | Hostile: Sounds like a bug. |
| 05:03.13 | herbi | it is |
| 05:03.20 | herbi | TwistedEmotions, he means a gig...like a show...performance. |
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| 05:03.24 | TwistedEmotions | poncha: some MB's have them some dont... varies... my mohterboard autoload my usb mouse |
| 05:03.30 | sanxiyn | poncha: There's also Windows code page 65005 (and 65006), if you are curious. |
| 05:03.31 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahahahah |
| 05:03.35 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: a gig... |
| 05:03.39 | Hostile | sanxiyn, aight how do I go about reporting that? |
| 05:03.47 | poncha | btw i subscribed to gpm maillist and asked there... they said "why are you using gpm ver so old? ge a new one".. and i'm on sid for christ sake :) |
| 05:03.48 | sanxiyn | (As in chcp <codepage>. They are UTF32 encodings.) |
| 05:03.58 | herbi | ntr.v. gigged, gig?ging, gigs |
| 05:03.58 | herbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I was about to tell you... a gig worth of html... is going to take you the rest of your life to type up... hahhaah |
| 05:04.13 | sanxiyn | Hostile: reportbug mozilla-thunderbird... and install reportbug if you don't have it already. |
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| 05:04.26 | Hostile | and in the meantime, what mail client do you recommend? |
| 05:04.29 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: haha. hopefully i can get the job done and get paid. |
| 05:04.35 | sanxiyn | Hostile: mutt? :-) |
| 05:05.08 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I know *some* html... very little... but if you need help... I'm also good with windows if you need help with that |
| 05:05.10 | TBBle | On the other hand, a gig of html will take about ten minutes to generate in frontpage. |
| 05:05.40 | sanxiyn | FrontPage is great. |
| 05:06.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hehe. will ask if i needed. probably will too (= |
| 05:06.05 | TwistedEmotions | TBBle: that's because Frontpage makes good, clean, streamlined webpages. |
| 05:06.11 | sanxiyn | Nvu 1.0 is finally released, but I don't think it's up to par, just yet. |
| 05:06.25 | poncha | sanxiyn, 65005 is utf8? |
| 05:06.39 | sanxiyn | poncha: No, not utf8. |
| 05:06.58 | sanxiyn | poncha: Consult appropriate MSDN documentation for details. |
| 05:07.00 | manu | how can i get information on ide devices |
| 05:07.10 | poncha | TwistedEmotions, funny thing is this mouse not the first usb mouse on my comp... i had previous version of ms explorer before and it worked fine (but that mouse died and i had to buy new one) |
| 05:07.19 | poncha | sanxiyn, i will thanks |
| 05:07.19 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: for real man. but i havent ask how $. since i have no clue. the last time i got paid doing html work was $100 and a 47$ giftcard at nordstrom. and 2 opera ticket which i didnt go. that was for a non-profeit |
| 05:07.23 | sanxiyn | Anyway, Linspire deserves some priase for their sponsoring of Nvu, IMO. |
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| 05:07.43 | manu | how can i get information on ide devices |
| 05:07.48 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: opera tickets? Were you planning on getting laid with them? |
| 05:07.59 | sanxiyn | !repeat |
| 05:07.59 | dpkg | well, repeat is if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco), or ask about "smart questions", or for more information, ask me about <repeat> |
| 05:08.13 | TBBle | Opera tickets can get you laid? And here I thought they just got you past the bouncers at the opera... |
| 05:08.18 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah. nah. |
| 05:08.21 | manu | thank you for the bliss dpkg |
| 05:08.23 | poncha | and i have to say i liked previous mouse more... this one's wheel is too tough to click |
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| 05:09.15 | sanxiyn | It would rock if firefox, thunderbird, nvu can share the runtime (XULrunner?) |
| 05:09.29 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: if the start is paying.. then ask for 300,000 for a new mouse you need... 600,000 for a new keyboard.. and 4000 for 20hours of work.. then wait 6 months... finish the page in 15 minutes and hand it to them. |
| 05:09.34 | TwistedEmotions | *state |
| 05:09.55 | deadcat | haha.. thats some nice scam |
| 05:10.22 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I'm warning you though. If you dont delay for 6 months they will KNOW something is wrong. |
| 05:10.51 | deadcat | hahah. they want it asap but i am lazy right now |
| 05:10.57 | deadcat | sweating like a pig |
| 05:10.58 | ke6isf | A $47 gift card for Nordstrom's? What can you get with that, a pair of socks? |
| 05:11.25 | TwistedEmotions | ke6isf: a walk through the store. |
| 05:11.36 | deadcat | ke6isf: so far i got a pair of flipflop for $10. so i still have some $.. hehe i had it for about over a year now. i have nothing to buy (= |
| 05:11.41 | ke6isf | TwistedEmotions: ...and that, plus one nickel, will get you a cup of coffee. |
| 05:12.13 | Hostile | sanxiyn, how do I add a mail account in mutt? |
| 05:12.47 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: thats because your life is rich.. so you dont need material things. Or at least that's what I tell creditors when they call my house. |
| 05:13.06 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 05:13.08 | deadcat | nice |
| 05:13.24 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: want the harry potter book? I got the digital edition |
| 05:13.27 | rixth | Okay, I have a chroot /chroot. I have Apache within that chroot (/chroot/apache/bin/httpd) how do I start it with root set to /chroot? |
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| 05:13.37 | TwistedEmotions | Errr... /msg didnt work... |
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| 05:15.20 | LinunNIT-laptop | i tried using the options auto,defaults,user,noexec in my fstab and the partition mounted at boot but said that i didnt have permission to access it how can i change that? |
| 05:15.43 | sanxiyn | Oh, this is a fascinating comment: |
| 05:15.45 | deadcat | LinunNIT-laptop: uid=youruid |
| 05:15.47 | sanxiyn | "FireFox is slow and leaks memory. IE7 is the best browser out there. OpenSores can't compete." |
| 05:15.49 | sanxiyn | lolol |
| 05:16.02 | LinunNIT-laptop | thanks deadcat i'll try that |
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| 05:16.06 | doojin | hi |
| 05:16.13 | doojin | now |
| 05:16.17 | doojin | opengl works fine |
| 05:16.25 | deadcat | doojin: what you do? |
| 05:16.43 | rixth | sanxiyn, well, the first part of that statement is true |
| 05:16.55 | exobyte | why would different dialup utilities have varrying levels of success actually dialing out? |
| 05:17.01 | doojin | liboasnd.so is weird |
| 05:17.29 | Hostile | what package does pine belong to? |
| 05:17.35 | deadcat | Hostile: no pine |
| 05:17.42 | doojin | what is liboasnd.so? |
| 05:17.42 | doojin | I don't know |
| 05:17.43 | deadcat | Hostile: use mutt. pine is not free |
| 05:17.49 | deadcat | doojin: i dont know either. |
| 05:17.57 | Hostile | deadcat, I dont know how to add a mail account to mutt |
| 05:18.04 | deadcat | Hostile: you dont |
| 05:18.32 | Hostile | then how do I sync with my pop? |
| 05:18.45 | deadcat | Hostile: oh. pop. man mutt or google |
| 05:19.50 | sanxiyn | Hostile: You can set pop_host to pop://example.com, and pop_user and pop_pass to correct value. |
| 05:20.00 | rixth | Help with this please? I have a chroot /chroot. I have Apache within that chroot (/chroot/apache/bin/httpd) how do I start it with root set to /chroot? |
| 05:20.06 | sanxiyn | Hostile: But don't. |
| 05:21.59 | Hostile | hmm mutt seems like a pain in the ass |
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| 05:22.46 | LinunNIT-laptop | deadcat, just came back to thank you again it worked. i thought i had tried that ut i guess not. thanks |
| 05:22.46 | deadcat | Hostile: because you suck |
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| 05:23.29 | doojin | liboasnd? |
| 05:23.35 | deadcat | LinunNIT-laptop: what did i do again? remind me (= |
| 05:23.42 | dieguito | i have this weird problem with X and my intel video chip, i have direct rendering enabled sometimes and sometimes not... glxgears acts weird, going slow sometimes and when reszing the window going fast... games that use SDL don't have problem, but wine games with GL do have problems. any idea? |
| 05:23.54 | sanxiyn | !find libosand.so |
| 05:24.05 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libosand.so' returned no results. |
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| 05:24.21 | LinunNIT-laptop | told me what options to use in my fstab |
| 05:24.24 | LinunNIT-laptop | :) |
| 05:24.28 | deadcat | LinunNIT-laptop: oh ya |
| 05:24.30 | exobyte | easy question: I do route add default ___ x.x.x.x, what's ___? |
| 05:24.44 | Danar | freshclam keeps telling me my clamav is outdated, but i've installed and reinstalled the latest version from unstable |
| 05:25.04 | sanxiyn | exobyte: Most likely, gw. |
| 05:25.15 | exobyte | sanxiyn: GateWay? |
| 05:25.24 | sanxiyn | Yes, but you write "gw", not "gateway". |
| 05:25.28 | exobyte | yeah |
| 05:25.42 | exobyte | sanxiyn: hmm, network is unreachable |
| 05:26.01 | doojin | huh |
| 05:26.07 | exobyte | sanxiyn: I'm on a wired network, but playing with dialup. I want to confirm dialup works |
| 05:26.15 | doojin | I don't know why liboasnd.so makes sound problem |
| 05:26.25 | Danar | oh, and the version it wants is the same as that in unstable |
| 05:26.32 | sanxiyn | !find liboasnd.so |
| 05:26.42 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'liboasnd.so' returned no results. |
| 05:27.00 | affe | anyone have any ideas as to why my Debian system clock's so off? ntpdate syncs up fine, it's just when you do a process listing that you notice the diff. It's got 433 days of uptime on it so I don't know if that's got anything to do w/ it or not. |
| 05:27.18 | affe | here's a paste: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=4405 |
| 05:27.26 | exobyte | affe: low battery? |
| 05:27.26 | Danar | affe: time zone off? |
| 05:27.37 | TwistedEmotions | Wow... 433 days of up time? That's nuts.. |
| 05:27.45 | TwistedEmotions | going on like 30 minutes... |
| 05:27.52 | affe | TZ is accurate and this is a colocated server |
| 05:28.23 | joris | somthing is seriously broken... dselect claims kdm is fully installed, dpkg also claims it's installed, but apt claims it's not installed |
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| 05:28.51 | affe | I even did a hwclock --systohc thinking that maybe that it's just the hardware clock being foobared but that doesn't seem to be it either |
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| 05:29.27 | affe | TwistedEmotions: ha! |
| 05:30.42 | doojin | when I try to play soldier of fortune demo, sound initialization fails |
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| 05:31.07 | affe | the only thing that I could think of is that I did and upgrade from woody to sid a few months back but I don't see why that'd have that effect |
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| 05:31.56 | sanxiyn | affe: I remember glibc asking something time-related while woody->sarge upgrade. Did it? |
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| 05:32.24 | sanxiyn | Perhaps not related. |
| 05:32.42 | tvn | I want to reuse one of the original etc file from a package, how do I tell apt to just extract that file ? |
| 05:32.50 | affe | sanxiyn: I can't remember -- it's been too long. Should I do a dpkg --reconfigure on it? |
| 05:32.59 | SDFH_Linux | can you download a netinstall with only testing on it? |
| 05:32.59 | doojin | huhuhu |
| 05:33.16 | robbie_ | what is RIP direction in tcp/ip talk? |
| 05:33.26 | foxx | hi can any help me i need program to run a *.run file |
| 05:33.49 | sanxiyn | affe: I don't think so. I am not sure what's the problem. |
| 05:34.05 | sanxiyn | foxx: *.run is most likely a shell script. |
| 05:34.06 | Danar | affe: that's the amount of time it's been running and the time it started at... are you sure they're wrong? |
| 05:34.18 | sanxiyn | foxx: Run it with /bin/sh. (If it is made by makeself.) |
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| 05:34.44 | foxx | ok i will try that |
| 05:35.00 | SDFH_Linux | can you download a netinstall with only testing on it? |
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| 05:35.37 | doojin | hi |
| 05:35.44 | sanxiyn | SDFH_Linux: You can use d-i daily testing image. |
| 05:35.48 | doojin | Anyone who knows what liboasnd.so is? |
| 05:35.49 | affe | Danar: yes -- I'd run a /etc/init.d/apache2 restart just prior to that output (probably should have included that) so it's like 2hours40min ahead of the actual system time |
| 05:35.49 | sanxiyn | SDFH_Linux: Beware of breakages. |
| 05:36.03 | SDFH_Linux | whats the kde or gnome and kernel on it? |
| 05:36.07 | SDFH_Linux | on testing i mean? |
| 05:36.13 | sanxiyn | SDFH_Linux: For example, see http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/ |
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| 05:36.22 | sanxiyn | SDFH_Linux: Installer doesn't include KDE or GNOME. |
| 05:36.37 | pb-mwilson | SDFH_Linux: And you'd not just look for yourself because...? |
| 05:36.54 | SDFH_Linux | i cant find it |
| 05:37.00 | sanxiyn | SDFH_Linux: I heard that d-i for etch(=testing) was having problem with upgrading kernel from 2.6.8. |
| 05:37.09 | sanxiyn | SDFH_Linux: So there may be issues. Beware. |
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| 05:37.13 | Danar | robbie_: RIP is a routing protocol |
| 05:37.14 | pb-mwilson | You can't find out what version of a package is included in testing? |
| 05:37.19 | SDFH_Linux | ok |
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| 05:37.37 | Danar | affe: dunno then. maybe file a bug report? |
| 05:37.37 | sanxiyn | pb-mwilson: Well, kernel version *installer* is using is not always same as kernel version it installs. |
| 05:38.01 | sanxiyn | (Remember woody installer and "real kernel" stuff?) |
| 05:38.03 | affe | Danar: yeah, I have no clue either. thanks though |
| 05:38.06 | pb-mwilson | sanxiyn: Then it's a good thing I didn't say a single thing about a kernel, isn't it? |
| 05:38.11 | foxx | i cant /sh/ dir it says no such file or dir |
| 05:38.17 | sanxiyn | pb-mwilson: Indeed. |
| 05:38.22 | robbie_ | Danar: would having RIP Direction set to none stop my modem from routing traffic to my machine with NAT? |
| 05:38.24 | sanxiyn | foxx: What? |
| 05:38.34 | sanxiyn | foxx: Make *.run an executable, and just run it. |
| 05:38.38 | sanxiyn | foxx: Or run it with /bin/sh. |
| 05:38.46 | Danar | robbie_: uh, your modem shouldn't do nat |
| 05:38.56 | robbie_ | Danar: it does |
| 05:38.57 | foxx | ok |
| 05:39.11 | Danar | robbie_: RIP is a router protocol used among routers |
| 05:39.21 | Danar | so it's an external thing |
| 05:39.21 | pb-mwilson | sanxiyn: As opposd to just wondering what was stopping him ffrom actually looking for himself. |
| 05:40.09 | Danar | robbie_: lets routers figure out how to get things where they need to go |
| 05:40.16 | nono31 | is there some performance differences between kernels 2.6.8 and 2.6.11? Or is there significant performance differences between Xfree86 and Xord? (Because I updated to Xorg and to 2.6.11 at the same time and my box seems so much faster...) |
| 05:40.26 | sanxiyn | nono31: I don't think so. |
| 05:40.34 | sanxiyn | nono31: I haven't found much difference. |
| 05:40.40 | rixth | Help with this please? I have a chroot /chroot. I have Apache within that chroot (/chroot/apache/bin/httpd) how do I start it with root set to /chroot? |
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| 05:41.02 | Danar | robbie_: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/rip.htm |
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| 05:41.21 | sanxiyn | rixth: chroot /chroot <some command to start Apache> |
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| 05:41.48 | Danar | nono31: the kernel is faster, but not sure about xorg. it's faster for me cause it enabled direct rendering, but dunno if it's faster in general |
| 05:41.50 | rixth | bear:/# chroot /chroot/ /apache/bin/httpd -k start |
| 05:41.50 | rixth | chroot: cannot run command `/apache/bin/httpd': No such file or directory |
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| 05:42.17 | sanxiyn | rixth: Perhaps there's no such file. |
| 05:42.28 | nono31 | Danar: how I know if it enabled direct rendering? |
| 05:42.47 | rixth | sanxiyn, I can use <tab> to get the filename though, so it does exist |
| 05:42.48 | Danar | nono31: run glxinfo, it should tell you |
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| 05:43.39 | nono31 | Danar: well. but I don't know if it was enabled before... :-( |
| 05:43.48 | Danar | oh |
| 05:44.03 | Danar | well, if it's enabled now, it's about as fast as it'll go |
| 05:44.09 | bloo | Does anyone know if RockRidge and Joliet are OK with file names like "..foo" ? I'm trying to burn a DVD that has these names, and I'm getting some errors |
| 05:44.12 | Danar | if it wasn't before... doesn't really matter now :p |
| 05:44.39 | doojin | Danar : can you help me? |
| 05:45.03 | pb-mwilson | rixth: Yes, outside the chroot, there certainly seems to be. But *inside* the chroot? |
| 05:45.19 | Danar | doojin: google says: Did you mean: libasound.so ? |
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| 05:45.42 | rixth | pb-mwilson, yes, there is a /chroot/apache/bin/httpd |
| 05:45.52 | pb-mwilson | bloo: No one would ever get to know what those errors were, of course. |
| 05:45.56 | doojin | huh |
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| 05:46.10 | doojin | liboasnd.so is in Soldier of Fortune demo's directory |
| 05:46.15 | MobyTurbo | bloo: that's a broken file name in *nix and Ms file systems, because ".." means parent directory. |
| 05:46.20 | Danar | doojin: what're you trying to do? |
| 05:46.29 | doojin | I want to enable sound in SOF |
| 05:46.43 | doojin | Danar : I want to enable sound in SOF |
| 05:46.47 | dpower | anyone know if cs:s runs on linux? |
| 05:46.51 | foxx | nothing is working |
| 05:47.00 | MobyTurbo | !anyone |
| 05:47.00 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 05:47.02 | bob2 | dpower: if you buy cedega, it apparently can |
| 05:47.19 | dpower | interesting |
| 05:47.34 | sanxiyn | The lyf so short, the craft so longe to lerne. |
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| 05:47.59 | fmenard | is there any way to use grep to display the next couple of lines following a hit? |
| 05:48.16 | rixth | fmenard, in a server log? |
| 05:48.28 | sanxiyn | fmenard: -A |
| 05:48.29 | pb-mwilson | fmenard: Other than the ones that 'man grep' would show you? |
| 05:48.49 | sanxiyn | fmenard: -A NUM: Print NUM lines of trailing context after matching lines... |
| 05:49.16 | fmenard | thx |
| 05:49.43 | blahdeblah | Hi all. Is there a way to do a partial apt-get update, for only selected apt repositories? |
| 05:49.51 | bloo | pb-mwilson: that's right; hobbyist software has the worst error handling discipline - don't get me started |
| 05:50.28 | MobyTurbo | blahdeblah: comment out the ones you don't want in /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get update, do what you have to do, and uncomment them. |
| 05:50.42 | pb-mwilson | bloo: Get you started on what? How important it is to ask questions, but not provide the slightest detail? "Error handling dicipline" has zero to do with it. |
| 05:50.55 | bloo | MobyTurbo: but it's "..foo" not "../foo"; it used to work before for me with CDRs with no problems; but this new DVD-R device complains |
| 05:51.05 | blahdeblah | MobyTurbo: i meant besides the obvious - i want to do this regularly, and editing source.list every time is not going to scale. |
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| 05:51.39 | sanxiyn | blahdeblah: What kind of user interface you're thinking of. |
| 05:51.41 | bloo | pb-mwilson: write track data: error after 63488 bytes - happy now? |
| 05:51.45 | pb-mwilson | I would submit to you that if this is something you think you need to be doing regularly, your process needs re-thinking. |
| 05:51.50 | MobyTurbo | bloo: then use a different file name. |
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| 05:52.24 | MobyTurbo | blahdeblah: then write a script using sed and/or awk (or if you prefer Perl) to do it automatically. |
| 05:52.27 | blahdeblah | sanxiyn: script - i have a few packages i put in a private repository. I want to update my machines from that without hitting my Debian mirror every time i do a local package update. |
| 05:52.34 | bloo | MobyTurbo: I asked people familiar with RR or Joliet if "..foo" was a legal name, instead I'm getting a bunch of $@#$@#$ |
| 05:52.37 | sanxiyn | blahdeblah: Write a script yourself. |
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| 05:53.01 | MobyTurbo | bloo: if changing the name fixes it then fix it. |
| 05:53.10 | pb-mwilson | bloo: Yes... how *dare* anyone actuallyl ask you for any detail. The *cheek*! The *nerve*! |
| 05:53.36 | dodgey | is there a new version of kdelibs going to be uploaded into sid any time this century? :) |
| 05:53.40 | blahdeblah | MobyTurbo: maybe that's not such an unreasonable thing - rather than seding or awking, i could just prepare a file each time, move the old one aside, and move it back when i'm done. |
| 05:53.53 | pb-mwilson | dodgey: We can only hope not. |
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| 05:53.59 | MobyTurbo | blahdeblah: true, you could do that too. |
| 05:54.08 | sanxiyn | blahdeblah: You may want to have sources.list.official, sources.list.private, etc, and my-apt-get update official or my-apt-get update all. |
| 05:54.11 | bloo | pb-mwilson: I told you the error message wasn't very informative; but you insisted on claiming there's something wrong with *me* because I don't tell you; now I told you. What's your problem? |
| 05:54.13 | jetx | hey htf do you reconfigure xorg.. dpkg-reconfigure what |
| 05:54.20 | dodgey | pb-mwilson, i hate kde with a passion.. but i kind of like k3b, and its not installable for me at the moment |
| 05:54.27 | sanxiyn | (my-apt-get update official moving sources.list.official to sources.list, update, and back, etc.) |
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| 05:55.00 | sanxiyn | dodgey: GnomeBaker is quite good, IMO. |
| 05:55.12 | jetx | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??? |
| 05:55.22 | pb-mwilson | You know, they must "teach" a very... interesting process of problem resolution in schools today... |
| 05:55.22 | sanxiyn | jetx: Yes. |
| 05:55.26 | jetx | thanks |
| 05:55.30 | bloo | MobyTurbo: if you are not familiar with RR or Joliet, why not just say so (or better yet say nothing) ? (rhetorical question) |
| 05:55.53 | pax | would someone please tell me what's in the Debian DVD vs the CD, is it just more packages? |
| 05:56.07 | sanxiyn | pax: They have the same content. |
| 05:56.11 | jetx | pax: 2 dvds have it all, it takes many cd's |
| 05:56.15 | jetx | so like you said |
| 05:56.26 | pax | thank you guys. |
| 05:56.36 | MobyTurbo | bloo: I told you a way to fix the problem. If you'd rather continue to have the problem because you must live within the specs then excuse me for helping you. |
| 05:56.54 | hgh | python can have classes within classes? |
| 05:57.09 | sanxiyn | hgh: Yes. |
| 05:57.13 | hgh | nice |
| 05:57.23 | bloo | MobyTurbo: don't fool yourself |
| 05:57.23 | pb-mwilson | MobyTurbo: I imagine your solution makes it impractical to pirate whatever DVD he's trying to pirate. |
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| 05:57.28 | Agabus | i want to setup a user account that can only be used via ssh (secureftp), and once logged in to that account i want only a specified directory and its sub-directories available. nothing above that. for example /home/share. can anyone help? |
| 05:57.34 | dieguito | is there any weird problems with i955 againts i830 dri driver in the kernel? |
| 05:57.41 | sanxiyn | hgh: Can have function within function too, but in that case function is not accessible outside. |
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| 05:57.52 | sanxiyn | (Class within class is accessible.) |
| 05:57.59 | MobyTurbo | pb-mwilson: oh, if he's doing that then all bets are off. |
| 05:58.01 | hgh | what about class within function? |
| 05:58.20 | dpower | chmod |
| 05:58.28 | sanxiyn | hgh: You need to return the class itself then. |
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| 05:58.40 | bloo | pb-mwilson: that's slander. consider yourself warned |
| 05:58.43 | hgh | sanxiyn: i dont follow |
| 05:59.14 | MobyTurbo | pb-mwilson: heh, I suppose he thinks he can sue someone for something they've said in IRC. |
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| 06:00.33 | pb-mwilson | MobyTurbo: No doubt. |
| 06:00.34 | paster | "sanxiyn" at 222.233.187.114 pasted "Returning class within fuction" (14 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/373 |
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| 06:01.08 | PandaKun | sp |
| 06:01.09 | PandaKun | sup |
| 06:01.13 | sanxiyn | (A pointless example, but you can imagine other usages.) |
| 06:01.26 | pb-mwilson | PandaKun: No, thanks, I've already eaten. |
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| 06:02.54 | kimo | if apt-get decides to remove some pkgs, is there anyway I can know 'why' is that so? |
| 06:03.26 | pb-mwilson | kimo: Because you told it that it was allowed to. If you don't know the difference between 'upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade', why are you using them? |
| 06:03.51 | sanxiyn | kimo: You can use some of better frontends. |
| 06:03.54 | blahdeblah | kimo: apt-cache policy might help |
| 06:03.59 | hgh | sanxiyn: thanks for the example.. i'm just trying to create a class inside a function to encapsulate some data, but nice to see what you can all do |
| 06:04.14 | kimo | pb-mwilson: sorry, I meant, can I see why apt wants to remove. Like what is the exact conflict |
| 06:05.01 | blahdeblah | MobyTurbo/others: the suggested solution for partial apt-get updates doesn't work. It removes data about all the other repositories. |
| 06:05.12 | sanxiyn | hgh: /join #python, too. |
| 06:05.24 | pb-mwilson | kimo: I disremember the option that will cause apt-get to show you the dependency resolution tree, but the man page will show you. |
| 06:05.34 | MobyTurbo | blahdeblah: the solutions we gave are really as good as it gets. |
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| 06:06.52 | hgh | ha.. thought i was in python |
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| 06:07.27 | kimo | pb-mwilson: sorry, I tried the man page... Is this a regular cli option, or some conf file ? |
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| 06:08.17 | sanxiyn | dpkg, gcc transition is http://people.debian.org/~djpig/gcc-transition/ |
| 06:08.17 | dpkg | sanxiyn: okay |
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| 06:10.17 | krenin | hello; when I reboot my Debian machine, my cdrom0 and cdrom1 mountpoints are getting deleted. can anyone tell me why and how to get them to stay there? |
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| 06:11.32 | bob2 | er |
| 06:11.40 | bob2 | are you sure you don't mean "device nodes"? |
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| 06:11.55 | krenin | no, those are in /dev -- these files are in /media |
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| 06:12.17 | tbx | jfs_fsck /dev/sda1 = "Errors detected in the Primary File/Directory Allocation Table.", "Errors detected in the Secondary File/Directory Allocation Table.", "CANNOT CONTINUE."; which is disconcerting since this externally enclosed drive was mounted and working just lovely yesterday.... |
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| 06:12.51 | tbx | ... anyone have any ideas? |
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| 06:13.19 | MobyTurbo | !anyone |
| 06:13.19 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 06:13.24 | sykopomp | O.o |
| 06:13.27 | exobyte | I set kppp up to dial and disconnect correctly. How can I get two scripts that do the same, but without the kppp frontend? |
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| 06:13.49 | dpower | o.0 |
| 06:13.51 | ke6isf | exobyte: if{up,down} ppp0, mayhaps? |
| 06:14.00 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: pppconfig |
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| 06:14.18 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: then you can run "pon" and "poff" |
| 06:14.55 | exobyte | MobyTurbo: how debian specific is pppconfig? |
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| 06:15.29 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: the program is Debian-specific, but the files it generates are Unix compatable. |
| 06:16.03 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: (OT) if you want to generate the files by hand a section in the NetBSD guide covers that. |
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| 06:17.11 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: of course if you're crazy enough to generate all those files by hand and it doesn't work you won't get any help for it here. |
| 06:17.20 | exobyte | MobyTurbo: heh heh.. |
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| 06:17.48 | exobyte | MobyTurbo: so pon, poff, and pppconfig are debian console frontends? |
| 06:17.59 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: sure |
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| 06:18.21 | exobyte | MobyTurbo: umm |
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| 06:18.51 | exobyte | MobyTurbo: kppp does NOT create unix compatable files? |
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| 06:19.18 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: I have no idea, I've not run KDE on a regular basis for a long time. |
| 06:19.37 | MobyTurbo | exobyte: of course, since KDE works on most Unixes I suppose on a technical level it does. |
| 06:19.53 | exobyte | MobyTurbo: I only do in knoppix. I can't blame you. my normal desktop manager is winxp |
| 06:20.06 | tvn | luna |
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| 06:20.37 | exobyte | MobyTurbo: not where I'm going (integrated). I'm testing on debian- proof of concept, then off to openwrt |
| 06:20.41 | TBBle | I thought pon and poff are normal pppd commands... |
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| 06:21.02 | MobyTurbo | TBBle: they are scripts that call pppd commands, yes. |
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| 06:21.39 | tbx | does someone have any suggestions how to fsck my drive? jfs, tried jfs_fsck, and it says "CANNOT CONTINUE". |
| 06:21.53 | Oompa | Hello. I need help. I am trying to install KDE and it gives me errors when trying to connect. |
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| 06:22.05 | Oompa | I am a linux first timer so... |
| 06:22.32 | Oompa | Is there anyone that could help me? |
| 06:22.50 | w1gg3r | Oompa: are you starting with startkde or what |
| 06:22.54 | joris | Oompa: could you detail the error a bit more? |
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| 06:22.56 | MobyTurbo | tbx: I wouldn't recommend running jfs unless you need compatability with AIX. |
| 06:23.07 | Oompa | No. I did apt-get install KDE |
| 06:23.18 | Oompa | and I get 6 errors.. very long. let me get a picture of them |
| 06:23.22 | tbx | MobyTurbo: ..... erm, it's a little late for that now.... |
| 06:23.47 | tbx | MobyTurbo: ... and, which would be better, in your opinion, and why? |
| 06:23.50 | pax | holly $ never seen anything like this, jigdo D/Ling some packages at 1010.10Kb/s |
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| 06:24.18 | joris | pax: you must be on a nice fat pipe :) |
| 06:24.21 | Oompa | 8 errors now. more keep poping up.. |
| 06:24.25 | MobyTurbo | tbx: ext3 seems to be the most stable. reiser if for some reason you need more performance but with less data security. |
| 06:24.48 | MobyTurbo | tbx: and XFS if you need to work with very large files such as video editing on a constant bases. |
| 06:24.49 | pax | joris: just plain ool cable. |
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| 06:24.53 | MobyTurbo | s/bases/basis |
| 06:25.04 | joris | MobyTurbo: reiser is good if you don't mind losing your data |
| 06:25.21 | MobyTurbo | joris: I thought I said that... |
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| 06:25.31 | MobyTurbo | personally I run ext3. |
| 06:25.34 | Oompa | http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/8306/untitled0nc.png |
| 06:25.35 | tbx | MobyTurbo: okay, I'll consider switching.... *after* I can regain access to my data.... any suggestions? |
| 06:25.38 | Oompa | my errors thus far |
| 06:25.41 | joris | MobyTurbo: 'less' doesn't quite describe it in my experience |
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| 06:26.10 | MobyTurbo | joris: I did run Reiser at one point and lost data to it. That was with kernel 2.4.10 though. |
| 06:26.46 | joris | MobyTurbo: indeed... I've lost data with a wide range of kernel versions on reiser :/ |
| 06:26.48 | MobyTurbo | joris: ext3 though I've never lost data to it. |
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| 06:26.58 | w1gg3r | Oompa: are you intending to use woody? why not sarge? |
| 06:27.04 | joris | MobyTurbo: *nod nod* |
| 06:27.26 | tbx | MobyTurbo: so, do you have any suggestions? |
| 06:27.35 | Oompa | w1gg3r: All I did was install debian log in as root and typed apt-get install kde |
| 06:27.44 | MobyTurbo | joris: I think it's mostly because ext3 uses ordered writes and not too agressive caching. |
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| 06:27.52 | Oompa | w1gg3r: I don't know what woody or sarge is.... |
| 06:28.03 | MobyTurbo | tbx: jfs is not a mature filesystem under Linux. |
| 06:28.09 | joris | MobyTurbo: or because it's an 'old' filesystem, with all the kinks ironed out |
| 06:28.14 | tbx | joris: ? Any suggestions how to regain access to three hundred stinking gigs of data? |
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| 06:28.22 | tbx | MobyTurbo: Great. Okay. I get it. |
| 06:28.43 | w1gg3r | Oompa: you need to do a sarge cd up and start over again. |
| 06:28.48 | joris | tbx: could you please describe the situation/problem again for me? |
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| 06:28.57 | MobyTurbo | tbx: if you can't fsck it you're probably screwed. |
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| 06:29.04 | Oompa | w1gg3r: And that would mean? |
| 06:29.09 | liable | Oompa: apt-get install x-window-system kdm |
| 06:29.19 | tbx | jfs_fsck /dev/sda1 = "Errors detected in the Primary File/Directory Allocation Table.", "Errors detected in the Secondary File/Directory Allocation Table.", "CANNOT CONTINUE."; was fine yesterday before I unplugged it. |
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| 06:30.00 | joris | tbx: step one: do you have backups? step two: run to the store, get extra diskspace and take a *full* image of the partitions involved |
| 06:30.07 | w1gg3r | Oompa: I think you want to do sarge stable instead of woody is all im saying |
| 06:30.08 | tbx | joris: I moved a bunch of stuff into it, I umounted it, I turned it off. I turned it back on today, and blammo. |
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| 06:30.49 | MobyTurbo | Oompa: /msg dpkg install debian |
| 06:30.49 | Oompa | w1gg3r: Look this is my first time downloading linux. I have no idea what I am doing. What is sarge? |
| 06:30.51 | joris | tbx: it could very well mean some corruption slowly crept in the fs - or you might have hardware errors |
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| 06:31.19 | w1gg3r | !sarge |
| 06:31.19 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
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| 06:31.43 | tbx | joris: would it perhaps at all have anything to do with the fact that it is plugged into a mere USB 1.1 port? Perhaps placing inside the machine directly on an IDE channel would somehow miraculously help? Gettin' nervous here, because, yep, you guessed it, no backup. |
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| 06:32.31 | Oompa | w1gg3r: I got this :Debian-3.0r2.ext3-mit-backports.1gb |
| 06:32.37 | Usiu | When we should expect new apache 2.1 ? |
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| 06:32.50 | Usiu | Maybe I should compile from sources.. |
| 06:32.57 | MobyTurbo | Oompa: you want 3.1r0a |
| 06:33.00 | joris | tbx: hmmmm, it's a complex layer you would eliminate, so it's worth a shot |
| 06:33.03 | liable | !d-i Oompa |
| 06:33.03 | dpkg | Oompa, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 06:33.11 | joris | tbx: but I'm not very optimistic about it, to be honest |
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| 06:33.44 | tbx | joris: thanks for the honesty. I'll take the shot, and report back in FYI. |
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| 06:34.18 | karlfr | Oompa, the "something wicked happened resolving" error that you're getting sounds like there's a problem with your basic network configuration/connectivity. |
| 06:34.26 | w1gg3r | Oompa: they very well maybe archiving the woody repository, and that is why you are having problems connecting - because it no longer exsists under stable |
| 06:34.29 | joris | tbx: okay, good luck... and remember: you're just trying to get the data off, don't get seduced into trying to fix things before you have the data |
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| 06:35.08 | karlfr | Oompa, it could be trouble with old drivers for your network card, if so using the latest version of Debian would fix it. |
| 06:35.21 | tbx | joris: point taken. Thanks. |
| 06:35.29 | Oompa | Ok. Thanks. I will go see what I cna do. |
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| 06:36.02 | MobyTurbo | Oompa: woody was released in 2000, and it's both harder to install and has less hardware support. Get the Sarge netinst ISO, it's only 150 megs or so. |
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| 06:36.33 | MobyTurbo | oops, he's gone. |
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| 06:37.34 | jetx | xorg autodetects pretty damn good |
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| 06:38.39 | MobyTurbo | jetx: I don't care about autodetection, I've memorized my horizontal and vertical sync rates. :-) |
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| 06:38.58 | Danar | jetx: indeed. worked great for me |
| 06:39.03 | Danar | better than xf86 |
| 06:39.05 | jetx | hwinfo --monitor |
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| 06:39.19 | Danar | what's with salomon? |
| 06:39.24 | jetx | i memorized mine too before i learned that one |
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| 06:39.38 | _linuxAS_ | morning |
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| 06:40.12 | pax | you dont need to memorize your rates, your monitor specs should be on the maker's site, I guess. |
| 06:40.21 | jetx | hwinfo --monitor |
| 06:40.21 | Danar | jetx: that isn't always right |
| 06:40.31 | jetx | so far for me it is |
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| 06:40.47 | MobyTurbo | pax: I don't really need to, I have it in my monitor manual. I memorized them by mistake. |
| 06:40.49 | Danar | mine says Max. Resolution: 1280x1024, but it's actually 1600x1200 |
| 06:41.09 | jetx | no, vertical and horiz refresh rates, different |
| 06:41.22 | MobyTurbo | yeah, monitor pnp sometimes lies. |
| 06:41.37 | Danar | why would it? |
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| 06:41.50 | jetx | ddc info not always good |
| 06:41.58 | MobyTurbo | Danar: lazy hardware companies. |
| 06:42.00 | jetx | esp w/nvidia i read |
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| 06:43.17 | jetx | wtf is inconsistent kallsyms data |
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| 06:43.47 | jetx | somebody ban SaLoMoN |
| 06:43.52 | nilray | hi, I am using debian for past 6 months. I want to learn programming etc. & contribute to debian development, what is the best way to begin? |
| 06:43.53 | jetx | please |
| 06:43.59 | Danar | !ops |
| 06:43.59 | dpkg | Please invoke '! ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 06:44.18 | bob2 | Danar: ? |
| 06:44.19 | Danar | !ops SaLoMoN keeps flooding |
| 06:44.19 | MobyTurbo | !ops SaLoMoN is join/part flooding |
| 06:44.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: SaLoMoN keeps flooding |
| 06:44.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: SaLoMoN is join/part flooding |
| 06:44.26 | MobyTurbo | oops |
| 06:44.36 | bob2 | nilray: subscribing to the debian-devel mailing list is a good way to keep an eye on how things are going |
| 06:44.37 | Danar | heh |
| 06:44.40 | dreambottle | has anyone had any joy installing sarge on the walmart 'basic' laptop, everything seems to work except the wireless card |
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| 06:44.58 | bob2 | nilray: the best way to contribute is to fix bugs that you see, and build up to helping on other things |
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| 06:45.13 | Danar | thx |
| 06:45.27 | MobyTurbo | thanks bob2 |
| 06:46.14 | jetx | !bob2++ |
| 06:46.24 | Danar | that's been going on a lot, on various open source irc channels... |
| 06:46.42 | jetx | !karma bob2 |
| 06:46.42 | dpkg | bob2 has karma of 1 |
| 06:46.48 | jetx | woooo |
| 06:46.51 | tvn | karma ? |
| 06:46.53 | bob2 | debconf sounded cool |
| 06:46.57 | MobyTurbo | !bob2++ |
| 06:47.06 | bob2 | karma's been disabled for years |
| 06:47.09 | nilray | thanks bob2, which programming language is better suited for linux development? |
| 06:47.13 | bob2 | since about the time I ever came here, I think |
| 06:47.14 | jetx | !karma bob2 |
| 06:47.14 | dpkg | bob2 has karma of 1 |
| 06:47.36 | jetx | !karma jetx |
| 06:47.36 | dpkg | jetx has neutral karma |
| 06:47.40 | jetx | \o/ |
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| 06:47.54 | bob2 | nilray: depends what you want to do. I quite like python for writing new things, but C is what all the "core" linux things are written in (the kernel, libc, all the basic utilities, gnome (tho it's not core), ...) |
| 06:47.56 | MobyTurbo | nilray: whatever language is best for the job, Linux has; except for VB of course, but that sucks anyway. :-) |
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| 06:48.05 | Danar | !karma SaLoMoN |
| 06:48.05 | dpkg | salomon has neutral karma |
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| 06:48.08 | Danar | :p |
| 06:48.25 | cyzie1 | liable, u still there? |
| 06:48.28 | jetx | !nickometer SaLoMoN |
| 06:48.29 | dpkg | 'SaLoMoN' is 99.9062% lame, jetx |
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| 06:48.51 | liable | cyzie1: um, yeah. |
| 06:49.00 | MobyTurbo | !botabuse |
| 06:49.00 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 06:49.16 | jetx | how dare you abuse the bot like that MobyTurbo |
| 06:49.23 | Danar | !nickometer MobyTurbo |
| 06:49.29 | Danar | :p |
| 06:49.37 | Danar | !nickometer Danar |
| 06:49.45 | cyzie1 | liable, i woke up :P but still, i cant get the dual boot working |
| 06:49.47 | liable | Danar: play in #debian-bots |
| 06:49.47 | jetx | you broke the bot |
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| 06:49.57 | cyzie1 | anyone can help me on dual boot windows xp and debian? |
| 06:50.00 | Danar | nah, got it in pm |
| 06:50.06 | bob2 | note that learning C as a first language is a massive pain in the ass |
| 06:50.15 | bob2 | cyzie1: read the default grub config file, /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 06:50.47 | jetx | xp overwrites the mbr after lilo/grub writes it, i hear. no idea. |
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| 06:51.00 | MobyTurbo | shai_: shavua tov |
| 06:51.11 | jetx | a restore 'feature' |
| 06:51.23 | w1gg3r | cyzie1: don't think that one is possable with ntfs5, unless you do it with the boot.ini in xp |
| 06:51.48 | sdogi_ | yup |
| 06:51.57 | MobyTurbo | cyzie1: I used to dual-boot XP Home ed. and Linux. |
| 06:52.07 | Danar | cyc: you mean "can anyone..." and install xp first, linux second |
| 06:52.11 | MobyTurbo | cyzie1: now I just boot Linux. :-) |
| 06:52.12 | jetx | i dualboot w2k and debian |
| 06:52.20 | Danar | er, cyzie sorry |
| 06:52.26 | jetx | i use w2k once a week for an hour or so |
| 06:52.29 | cyzie1 | lol cyzie = cyzie1 |
| 06:52.36 | Danar | arg |
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| 06:53.11 | cyzie1 | bob2, it doenst help by reading menu.lst. cuz yeterday i work quite soemtimes onthis problem. liable know that as well <;\ |
| 06:53.19 | liable | cyzie1: I think you might need to play with the windows cd, and fix the boot loader (not mbr, but ntloader or somesuch) |
| 06:53.35 | Danar | if they're on the same hard drive, you need to repartition it, and install windows first |
| 06:53.48 | Danar | actually, windows first either way |
| 06:53.49 | jetx | there's a howto that tells you how to use ntloader to boot linux |
| 06:53.58 | bob2 | cyzie1: you deleted the defaults? that was silly. |
| 06:54.12 | jetx | logical disk manager does NOT like partiitions created in linux |
| 06:54.16 | jetx | least in w2k |
| 06:54.37 | liable | his problem was, grub didnt detect xp, and cant boot it even with the chainloader command in grub conf. |
| 06:54.51 | jetx | lilo > grub then |
| 06:54.51 | cyzie1 | bob2, deleted default, what do u mean? |
| 06:54.53 | w1gg3r | cyzie1: i would use fat32 so you can write to your xp partition |
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| 06:55.21 | MobyTurbo | jetx: I've dual-booted XP using Grub before, so I wouldn't say that. |
| 06:55.32 | jetx | i made grub function |
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| 06:55.40 | jetx | then --purged it |
| 06:55.49 | jetx | pita |
| 06:55.50 | Danar | you can write to ntfs |
| 06:55.50 | jetx | imo |
| 06:56.02 | jetx | no do NOT write to ntfs even though you can |
| 06:56.07 | MobyTurbo | jetx: lilo has its problems too. |
| 06:56.09 | cyzie1 | so, anyway to fix this problem? |
| 06:56.10 | jetx | get bart's pe builder |
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| 06:56.21 | jetx | ubcd4win |
| 06:56.25 | Danar | MobyTurbo: such as? |
| 06:57.06 | MobyTurbo | Danar: re-running lilo, which not only neccesary but sometimes can leave your computer broken when you do it. |
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| 06:57.18 | liable | cyzie1: try fix ntloader with the win install cd. (or whatever its called) |
| 06:57.30 | w1gg3r | cyzie1: I used fat32 to fix all my woes with xp and linux partitioning |
| 06:57.33 | tsohg | cyzie1: have you tried to edit on boot w/ grub and change to (0:0) or (0:1) ? |
| 06:57.39 | MobyTurbo | Danar: also it's prompt has less functionality than grub's |
| 06:57.48 | cyzie1 | liable, alright. will do that. but i gotta get the cd from my company :) and today is sunday |
| 06:57.50 | jetx | cyzie1: what do you want to do: restore the xp boot loader? get a w98 boot floppy and run fdisk /mbr |
| 06:57.54 | Danar | yeh, but i couldn't figure out grub :p |
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| 06:58.07 | cyzie1 | tsohg, yes, i did yesterday after advice from liable |
| 06:58.16 | MobyTurbo | Danar: IBM has an excellent grub tutorial in developerworks. |
| 06:58.19 | Danar | lilo has a simple menu, easy to use, does what's needed |
| 06:58.40 | Danar | when grub has ease of use, i'll consider it |
| 06:58.46 | cyzie1 | jetx, if i fix using fdisk /mbr, can i boot etch afterward? |
| 06:58.59 | jetx | cyzie1: no that will restore the nt boot loader |
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| 06:59.13 | MobyTurbo | Danar: the only thing I like about lilo is that if you don't dual boot it launches the kernel optionally with no menu. Grub never is that quiet. |
| 06:59.15 | tsohg | cyzie1: fdisk /mbr will let you boot windows but not debian |
| 06:59.21 | jetx | and it will want you to reboot after xp loads the first time after you do it |
| 06:59.43 | cyzie1 | jetx, tsohg that is not the way i want :| i hope i can dual boot them. :) not either one of them only |
| 06:59.47 | jetx | cyzie1: google smart boot manager |
| 07:00.10 | Danar | MobyTurbo: ibm tut = registration |
| 07:00.17 | jetx | cyzie1: lilo should function and be easy to configure. ymmv. |
| 07:00.53 | MobyTurbo | Danar: it's worth it. |
| 07:01.07 | jetx | yay my compile worked this time |
| 07:01.19 | Danar | i already registered before, but i don't remember what i registered as/with. |
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| 07:01.24 | Danar | don't care to do it a second time |
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| 07:02.29 | jetx | wtf is libdevmapper |
| 07:02.50 | jetx | device-mapper driver missing from kernel? |
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| 07:04.30 | jmd | #hesse |
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| 07:05.11 | tsohg | as a noob would it be better to start with c, c++ or c#, most of my work is done in a m$ world doing some vb shite for scripting |
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| 07:06.17 | bob2 | you'd be better off learning python or ruby or something |
| 07:06.24 | tvn | tsohg: depends on what you want to do |
| 07:07.08 | valdyn | tsohg: of those 3 i found c the easiest but it really depends on your background. If you're not at all familiar with assembly / pointers etc then probably c# |
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| 07:07.34 | MobyTurbo | tsohg: all three of those aren't good choices for a first language. |
| 07:08.36 | tsohg | I mostly do large scale rollouts packaging in-house and shrinkwrap apps for companys like unilever, pfizer, bluecross blueshield, use mostly WISE which is really just a VB front end |
| 07:09.28 | w1gg3r | bash is probably the first one you should try - then move into perl, which is a pain in the ass to remember it's syntax |
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| 07:09.32 | tsohg | I suppose what I want to learn is a basic logic on which is a good foundation to build on |
| 07:09.55 | pb-mwilson | w1gg3r: With your nick, I can believe it. |
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| 07:10.15 | valdyn | tsohg: do you want to mostly 'learn' or already get something quite usuable? |
| 07:10.20 | w1gg3r | hey, don't be hate'n |
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| 07:11.06 | pb-mwilson | Whatever that's supposed to mean... |
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| 07:11.21 | tsohg | I want to learn, most of the stuff that I use now is click click click, but i want to learn the backend |
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| 07:11.39 | MobyTurbo | tsohg: Python |
| 07:11.50 | overdose | hi i just installed debian, anyway my keyboard isnt setted right, how can i fix this |
| 07:11.51 | valdyn | tsohg: try C w/ the book 'The C Programming Language' |
| 07:12.28 | tsohg | thanks Moby, valdyn got a hardcopy of that one, just need a direction to start out in. |
| 07:13.08 | MobyTurbo | tsohg: that is an excelent book valdyn reccomented. |
| 07:13.37 | MobyTurbo | tsohg: pointers in C are hard unless you're like me and knew assembler beforehand. |
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| 07:15.30 | tsohg | I have Volumes of 'old books' that places I work at get rid of nutshell books, all sorts of C books, just want to start w/ a good base, I am a logic junkie and know i can expand once i get a good 'base' |
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| 07:16.45 | overdose | hi, i just installed debian for the first time, anyway, my keyboard isnt setted right, how can i fix that? |
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| 07:16.52 | MobyTurbo | tsohg: maybe you'd like scheme if you can get over the parentheses. SICP is an excellent textbook and is available over the internet for free. |
| 07:17.09 | valdyn | !keyboard |
| 07:17.09 | dpkg | A keyboard is something you hit to fix segfaults, sigsegvs, and faulty hardware or at http://store.yahoo.com/pfuca-store/, or or ask me about "keyboard specialkeys" |
| 07:17.20 | overdose | ok tnx |
| 07:17.28 | valdyn | overdose: that wasnt useful for you |
| 07:17.40 | overdose | ic, i didnt readed it yet |
| 07:17.41 | overdose | heh |
| 07:17.50 | streuner | dpkg, keymap |
| 07:17.50 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev |
| 07:17.50 | overdose | its something whit dpkg? |
| 07:17.51 | tvn | tsohg: I think the best (in term of easiness) introduction books to programming (including c/c++/java etc) are from Deitel's . It's freshman college level , very easy to follow and lots of examples. But it costs lots |
| 07:18.47 | overdose | i saved my xorg.conf file (gentoo) |
| 07:19.09 | streuner | !sunday |
| 07:19.09 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 07:19.16 | tsohg | tvn: thanks man, I will grab that one too, books/courses/lunch :) is pretty easy for me to bill out |
| 07:19.23 | valdyn | overdose: run what dpkg just recommended |
| 07:19.27 | streuner | overdose: why do you ask questions about gentoo here? |
| 07:19.47 | ke6isf | streuner: I'm not sure he's asking about gentoo. |
| 07:19.55 | overdose | i didnt asked about gentoo, i asked about changing keymaps in deb |
| 07:19.58 | bob2 | where did overdose ask anything about gentoo? |
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| 07:20.12 | streuner | <overdose> i saved my xorg.conf file (gentoo) |
| 07:20.27 | ke6isf | streuner: Scroll up a bit. He just installed Deb. |
| 07:20.41 | ke6isf | streuner: That tells me that he had an xorg.conf in a gentoo install that he preserved. |
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| 07:20.49 | overdose | or is the word gentoo also a banned word here heh |
| 07:20.57 | bob2 | no |
| 07:21.04 | cahoot | overdose: not banned but a trigger |
| 07:21.12 | streuner | overdose: if you asking questions not related to debian, yes |
| 07:21.26 | bob2 | except his/her question was about Debian |
| 07:21.31 | valdyn | overdose: try using your old gentoo config or simple copy and paste the \ Option "XkbModel" "pc104" \ Option "XkbLayout" "us" from it. |
| 07:21.36 | overdose | ok, tnx btw, got the keymap workin :) |
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| 07:22.42 | jazzanova_ | hi |
| 07:22.52 | jazzanova_ | can anyone recommend a webcam ? |
| 07:23.13 | ke6isf | Use a digital camera and set it to be a webcam. The more expensive the better. Easy peasy. |
| 07:23.35 | jazzanova_ | i have sony, it has a usb interface |
| 07:23.42 | ke6isf | OK, so use it. |
| 07:23.54 | jazzanova_ | sony cybershot |
| 07:24.16 | jazzanova_ | but how do i interface the captured video to the computer ? |
| 07:24.42 | ke6isf | Might be a frob in the camera to do that. Check your camera's documentation. |
| 07:24.42 | jazzanova_ | in realtime |
| 07:24.56 | jazzanova_ | i looked online and found nothing on this |
| 07:25.20 | jazzanova_ | sony cybershot dsc-t33 |
| 07:25.42 | ke6isf | jazzanova_: What distro are you running? |
| 07:25.46 | jazzanova_ | debian |
| 07:25.52 | jazzanova_ | sid |
| 07:25.59 | ke6isf | ...just checkin... sid?! |
| 07:26.10 | jazzanova_ | why is that bad ? |
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| 07:26.17 | ke6isf | !sid |
| 07:26.18 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 07:26.47 | jazzanova_ | i have been using it for a long time now. |
| 07:26.50 | jazzanova_ | i will be fine :) |
| 07:27.05 | jazzanova_ | never really had much problems with it. |
| 07:27.57 | ke6isf | jazzanova_: apt-cache turns up 17 different things if I do 'apt-cache search webcam', including one aptly named 'webcam'. If your Sony camera will talk to it, use one. |
| 07:28.01 | ke6isf | Mind you, I run Sarge. |
| 07:28.46 | dodgey | how do you remove a file thats called --wav? |
| 07:28.55 | dodgey | i cant escape it with slashes, or put it in quotes |
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| 07:29.10 | streuner | dodgey: use 'mc' |
| 07:29.13 | ke6isf | dodgey: ...because it assumes it's an arg to a command. |
| 07:29.31 | dodgey | i know it assumes its an arg.. which is silly :) |
| 07:29.41 | dodgey | i dont have mc installed |
| 07:29.48 | ke6isf | dodgey: Install it. |
| 07:29.56 | dodgey | rm should be able to delete it? |
| 07:30.10 | jazzanova_ | the sony website says that they don't support such mode. |
| 07:30.35 | ke6isf | dodgey: For some reason, you can't remove files that are named '&', start with a % sign, or start with a '-'. |
| 07:30.48 | toresbe | ke6isf: sure you can. |
| 07:30.49 | ke6isf | jazzanova_: Hey, you're running sid. Explore a bit. See if you can make it work, right? |
| 07:31.00 | jazzanova_ | :) |
| 07:31.01 | nevyn | dodgey: umm you can. |
| 07:31.05 | ke6isf | toresbe: Haven't been able to with just good ol' 'rm'. |
| 07:31.14 | toresbe | ke6isf: I believe the syntax is rm -- -filenamestartingwithdash |
| 07:31.17 | cahoot | dodgey: rm /tmp\--wav works here |
| 07:31.27 | simonrvn | rm -- '--wav' |
| 07:31.39 | dodgey | there it is :) |
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| 07:32.03 | ke6isf | toresbe: heh, I didn't know that. =^^= Thanks. |
| 07:32.12 | tvn | dodgey: rm -rf -- --wav |
| 07:32.17 | Tinedel | Hi all |
| 07:32.24 | toresbe | ke6isf: no prob :) |
| 07:32.24 | jazzanova_ | any suggestions for a normal webcam ? |
| 07:32.31 | ke6isf | !toresbe++ |
| 07:32.54 | toresbe | tvn: using -rf when *experimenting* with *rm* is a very very, *very* bad idea :P |
| 07:33.09 | tvn | yeh ... heheh . |
| 07:33.24 | ke6isf | tvn: That, and if you're just removing a file, -r is superfluous. |
| 07:33.26 | tvn | dodgey: rm ./--wav works too ... there are many ways |
| 07:34.00 | tvn | dammit I always use rm -rf , hell I map rm to rm -rf , I dont want to answer yes everytime |
| 07:34.02 | toresbe | Also, the manpage tells you how, also. |
| 07:34.08 | nagual | how can i add sv_SE.ISO-8859-1, or something to my terminal so that i can have swedish umlauts? |
| 07:34.13 | toresbe | tvn: that's a doubleplusbadidea |
| 07:34.31 | dodgey | thanks all.. i had been stuffing around for a while trying different things.. -- is the ticket :) |
| 07:34.33 | tvn | I also make sure my rm -rf is sudo with root ! |
| 07:34.44 | ke6isf | tvn: Ah, so you don't mind ripping out directories accidentally. Clever--. |
| 07:34.49 | streuner | nagual: apt-get install localeconf |
| 07:34.51 | Tinedel | Have smalll question... While trying to connect to WinXP hosts through smbclient got a list of directories on share then I try to enter one. Smbclient show me that directory changed but list remains the same/ any suggestions what it might be? |
| 07:34.55 | tvn | that's a tripleplusbad idea ... |
| 07:35.05 | toresbe | pabl0: uh, right, plusungood memory |
| 07:35.34 | streuner | nagual: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 07:35.59 | toresbe | ... |
| 07:36.04 | toresbe | TAPING! VIDEOTAPING! |
| 07:36.13 | Danar | heh |
| 07:36.22 | simonrvn | tvn: answer yes is because rm is being mapped to rm -i |
| 07:36.26 | ke6isf | toresbe: Uh huh. =^_^= |
| 07:36.28 | pablum | holy... don't drink ginseng when you're about to go to bed. |
| 07:36.38 | simonrvn | duh |
| 07:36.46 | Danar | lol |
| 07:37.19 | Danar | drink warm milk to counter it :p |
| 07:37.29 | toresbe | or rohypnol :O |
| 07:37.30 | toresbe | :P* |
| 07:37.51 | Danar | warm soymilk? ...prolly wouldn't work |
| 07:38.02 | ke6isf | No l-triptophan in soy. |
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| 07:38.17 | ke6isf | pablum: break out the chamomile. |
| 07:38.17 | Danar | there ya go |
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| 07:39.50 | pablum | crap this stuff really works. Went to the asian market and got some vials... |
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| 07:40.32 | Danar | course it works :p |
| 07:40.43 | Danar | better than caffiene |
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| 07:40.47 | cahoot | pablum: you confident about the contents? |
| 07:40.51 | ke6isf | pablum: Heh, I've always had the tea, and it knocks me out. |
| 07:40.51 | Danar | caffiene's bad for you |
| 07:41.07 | pablum | never tested it before. the vials are potent. |
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| 07:41.34 | ke6isf | Danar: Blasphemer! Caffeine is the one true ghod! |
| 07:41.37 | jazzanova_ | i am trying to install kphone, and it fails. i am on sid. |
| 07:41.40 | Danar | heh |
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| 07:41.46 | pablum | not so great for the tummy (doing the jumping jacks right now) |
| 07:41.52 | jazzanova_ | says libjack can't be installed. |
| 07:41.57 | jazzanova_ | but i have it. |
| 07:42.25 | pablum | !sidsmit jazzanova_ |
| 07:42.33 | pablum | Pfft |
| 07:42.33 | ke6isf | !sidsmite jazzanova_ |
| 07:42.34 | Danar | i tend to avoid caffeine |
| 07:42.36 | toresbe | Caffeine is bad for you? That's new to me. |
| 07:42.47 | valdyn | !depends kphone |
| 07:42.48 | jazzanova_ | what should i do ? |
| 07:42.50 | dpkg | kphone: depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.8), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libice6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4), libsm6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libssl0.9.7, libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxt6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0) |
| 07:43.03 | colera | toresbe: you are being sarcastic right? |
| 07:43.10 | jazzanova_ | i have on the system libjack0.100.0-0 |
| 07:43.20 | jazzanova_ | it tells me that the problem is with libjack |
| 07:43.31 | valdyn | jazzanova_: you best wait till this is fixed. |
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| 07:43.57 | jazzanova_ | can i just force the install of kphone ? |
| 07:44.07 | ke6isf | jazzanova_: It probably won't work. |
| 07:44.09 | valdyn | jazzanova_: yea, but it would probably not run. |
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| 07:44.29 | Danar | toresbe: not sure if it's really bad for your health, but has harmful affecs |
| 07:44.31 | Danar | *affects |
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| 07:44.45 | Danar | harmful/negative |
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| 07:44.53 | pablum | I was pretty stoked that I found 2 bugs in the Perl internals. Finding bugs on sid is just ho hum... |
| 07:45.00 | jazzanova_ | how would i do the force ? |
| 07:45.06 | cahoot | Danar: as water might have also |
| 07:45.08 | ke6isf | Danar: No seriously negative side effects, though it does make fun with your kidneys. That's really the worst ofit. |
| 07:45.21 | Danar | cahoot: ? |
| 07:45.23 | jazzanova_ | is it possible to revert back to sarge after an upgrade to sid ? |
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| 07:45.36 | cahoot | Danar: harmful effects |
| 07:45.37 | valdyn | jazzanova_: restore from backup |
| 07:45.37 | colera | it's bad for you heart and stomach as well |
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| 07:45.51 | jazzanova_ | don't have that |
| 07:46.00 | Danar | jazzanova_: yeh, though it might be better to set it to your default repository and wait for upgrades |
| 07:46.04 | ke6isf | colera: Too much is, yes - but an average cup of coffee won't do much unless you have a condition in the first place. |
| 07:46.11 | Danar | cahoot: i know, but... ? |
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| 07:46.24 | ke6isf | !backupsmite jazzanova_ |
| 07:46.28 | Danar | cahoot: such as? |
| 07:46.46 | ke6isf | Danar: you inhale it, you can die. |
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| 07:47.13 | Danar | that's not under normal circumstances |
| 07:47.16 | Danar | :p |
| 07:47.17 | cahoot | Danar: ingested in too large amounts water is harmful - like most things abused |
| 07:47.27 | Danar | cahoot: and what happens? |
| 07:47.46 | ke6isf | There needs to be a backupsmite. |
| 07:47.54 | ke6isf | For those who don't commit ANY backups. |
| 07:47.56 | nagual | streuner: i dont know how that should help me exactly. in X i can do umlauts just fine, but neither on a remote nor local shell, im not sure why or how i can fix that. |
| 07:47.58 | Danar | not everyone is able to make backups |
| 07:48.07 | toresbe | Danar: I've seen documented evidence that caffeine actually improves something or other in your brain permanently |
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| 07:48.17 | ke6isf | Danar: At the very least, basic configs should be backed up. |
| 07:48.18 | nagual | toresbe: url? |
| 07:48.19 | Danar | toresbe: in what amounts? |
| 07:48.21 | Danar | link? |
| 07:48.21 | nerdy2 | Danar: hyponatremia, e.g. |
| 07:48.29 | toresbe | Danar: In coffee-cup sizes |
| 07:48.35 | jazzanova_ | so how would i force an install ? |
| 07:48.42 | cahoot | Danar: water intoxication can cause cerebral edema - but this is getting way too OT |
| 07:48.45 | Danar | toresbe: takes a lot of coffee to get that much :p |
| 07:48.47 | ke6isf | There's some case from a while back where a woman who downed gallons of water per day died in her 30s of renal failure. |
| 07:49.00 | nagual | renal? |
| 07:49.08 | toresbe | Danar: The amount you'd find in a coffee-cup, smartass :P |
| 07:49.09 | ke6isf | nagual: Her kidneys failed. |
| 07:49.10 | nevyn | kidney. |
| 07:49.14 | toresbe | Don't have an URL for it |
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| 07:49.33 | ke6isf | The irony was that she was trying to *prevent* it. |
| 07:49.34 | toresbe | ke6isf: I drink a lot of water. |
| 07:49.46 | ke6isf | toresbe: Are we talking like a 5g carboy per day, though? |
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| 07:49.53 | nagual | ok |
| 07:49.56 | toresbe | ke6isf: no. :P |
| 07:50.02 | ke6isf | toresbe: There ya go. |
| 07:50.06 | toresbe | Danar: It also is believed to significantly lower the chances of getting Parkinson's, and if you *did*, it would actually lower the effects |
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| 07:50.52 | tarzeau | good morning |
| 07:50.57 | cahoot | toresbe: at least makes one fell good |
| 07:51.01 | cahoot | feel |
| 07:51.01 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: hey |
| 07:51.02 | valdyn | jazzanova_: do you actually need jackd sound output? |
| 07:51.07 | ke6isf | cahoot: So it's not all bad. |
| 07:51.11 | tarzeau | hey MobyTurbo. what's up? |
| 07:51.14 | toresbe | cahoot: That's for sure. My fave candy is actually coffee beans |
| 07:51.25 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: just hanging out in #debian. :-) |
| 07:51.26 | jazzanova_ | i don't know, its the way kphone works, i need voice over ip |
| 07:51.31 | tarzeau | is anyone from .ee or .fi here? |
| 07:51.43 | toresbe | tarzeau: I'm *in* .fi atm... :P |
| 07:51.45 | Danar | the more i hear about food & health, it seems it's good to have lots of different stuff, even if it's considered harmful |
| 07:51.45 | toresbe | tarzeau: why? |
| 07:51.47 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: on weekends? retarded ;) |
| 07:51.50 | Danar | just in smaller amounts |
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| 07:52.06 | tarzeau | toresbe: i think i'll visit .ee, but fly to .fi and take a boat back downwards |
| 07:52.09 | toresbe | "Cross-compiling Debian from Scratch" - interesting |
| 07:52.12 | valdyn | jazzanova_: 'apt-get build-dep kphone && apt-get -b source kphone' might be worth a try. |
| 07:52.23 | toresbe | tarzeau: that's what we did here at debconf... They had a day-trip to Talinn |
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| 07:52.37 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: I think it's in the weekend in Turkey still too. ;-) |
| 07:52.47 | tarzeau | toresbe: so nice, you've been there too? arf. how was it ? got some more photos of that daytrip? |
| 07:53.00 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: i'm in switzerland, and yes we also have weekend ;) |
| 07:53.46 | toresbe | tarzeau: I'm still at debconf. I didn't go to the daytrip, as I used a rare opportunity to rest. I've been recording talks from 8am to 4pm every day and rarely catching sleep until late. |
| 07:53.53 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: I'm in Brooklyn, as I think I've mentioned before. Its not a good idea to wander outside here so late so being on the computer makes sense. |
| 07:54.09 | toresbe | tarzeau: I'm in the video mixing booth right now, manning the video system |
| 07:54.11 | tarzeau | toresbe: ah nice. where in finland are you now? |
| 07:54.16 | tarzeau | helsinki? |
| 07:54.18 | toresbe | tarzeau: In Helsinki. |
| 07:54.32 | toresbe | Or, right outside it, but... :P |
| 07:54.35 | suppaman | what's .ee actually ? |
| 07:54.42 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: brooklyn? wait i know that from DOPEWARS :) where the bitches are? |
| 07:54.45 | tarzeau | !ee |
| 07:54.45 | dpkg | methinks ee is for gEEks. Estonia |
| 07:54.58 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: heh |
| 07:55.03 | suppaman | ic |
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| 07:56.01 | MobyTurbo | !lt |
| 07:56.01 | dpkg | it has been said that lt is Lithuania |
| 07:57.23 | Danar | "The paper was written by Yiban Xu, a post-doctoral research associate in the School of Nuclear Engineering, and Adam Butt," |
| 07:57.24 | MobyTurbo | dpkg: is there anything you don't know? |
| 07:57.30 | Danar | O.O |
| 07:58.04 | rbisping | got a quick question:) |
| 07:58.15 | Danar | http://news.uns.purdue.edu/html4ever/2005/050712.Xu.fusion.html |
| 07:58.38 | toresbe | Danar: "Mr. Butt"... bwahah. |
| 07:58.45 | Danar | hehe |
| 07:59.00 | rbisping | does 'mepis' cause coronaries in here? |
| 07:59.01 | MobyTurbo | which would make you Bevis I suppose |
| 07:59.04 | Danar | this is the first time i've ever actually heard of someone with such a name |
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| 07:59.24 | toresbe | haha, so many tired people in the auditorium >:D |
| 07:59.25 | MobyTurbo | rbisping: mepis isn't supported here, try its channel or ##linux |
| 07:59.29 | MobyTurbo | !mepis |
| 07:59.29 | dpkg | MEPIS is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system. Uses KDE by default, and includes the nVidia proprietary 3D driver. It also includes a custom installer on the KDE desktop, with simple LILO configuration. See http://www.mepis.org. It is NOT real Debian, attempts to use apt-get with Debian mirrors will meet with a world of hurt. /join #mepis |
| 07:59.47 | toresbe | they're all hungover from $PREVIOUS_DAY |
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| 08:00.17 | rbisping | otay |
| 08:00.21 | jazzanova_ | ok, i put the setting to sarge, and kphone was able to get installed |
| 08:00.28 | overdose | hmmm, there arent xorg .deb's available? |
| 08:00.36 | MobyTurbo | !topicsmite overdose |
| 08:00.38 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon overdose. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 08:01.06 | overdose | aww, i see now |
| 08:01.11 | Boucman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.17 | Boucman | dpkg: good bot |
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| 08:01.27 | MobyTurbo | !botsnack |
| 08:01.28 | pb-mwilson | overdose: I doubt it. |
| 08:01.52 | overdose | heh, ok |
| 08:02.07 | MobyTurbo | dpkg: test |
| 08:02.07 | dpkg | Yes, mobyturbo, you're still online. |
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| 08:03.10 | Danar | lol |
| 08:03.13 | Danar | !dpkg |
| 08:03.13 | dpkg | methinks dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack, or a smart infobot, or voltagex's friend |
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| 08:04.06 | MobyTurbo | !lol |
| 08:04.06 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a porn star. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg, or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg, or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
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| 08:04.37 | Danar | that's retarded |
| 08:04.40 | mark__ | hi all |
| 08:04.45 | rbisping | !rotfl |
| 08:04.45 | dpkg | it has been said that rotfl is Rolling On The Floor Laughing, something you're rather unlikely to be able to type in while you do it |
| 08:04.47 | MobyTurbo | Danar: so is "lol" |
| 08:04.51 | Danar | no, it's not |
| 08:05.14 | MobyTurbo | Danar: dpkg thinks it is, so that settles it. ;) |
| 08:05.25 | Danar | i think it's not, so that settles it. :p |
| 08:05.38 | mark__ | I've got a problem with pam, I added the line for ldap auth, but now for non-ldap users they need to enter thier password twice |
| 08:06.16 | simonrvn | use|try_first_pass on the last pam_*.so |
| 08:06.17 | Danar | if you like, think of 'lol' as short for '/me LOL' |
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| 08:06.24 | simonrvn | e.g. |
| 08:06.31 | simonrvn | pam_unix.so |
| 08:06.45 | simonrvn | pam_ldap.so use_first_pass. apt-get install libpam-doc |
| 08:06.45 | MobyTurbo | Danar: IMHO /me lol is just as bad |
| 08:06.50 | Danar | then? |
| 08:06.57 | mark__ | thanks again simonrvn |
| 08:07.07 | MobyTurbo | Danar: then put down that crackpipe! |
| 08:07.17 | simonrvn | np. might want to join in on #ldap too |
| 08:07.23 | Danar | what do you propose to substitute 'lol'? |
| 08:07.43 | simonrvn | lsol |
| 08:07.45 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 08:07.46 | MobyTurbo | Danar: heh |
| 08:07.46 | Danar | what better way to indicate laughing out loud? |
| 08:07.57 | simonrvn | laughs out loud |
| 08:07.57 | Danar | MobyTurbo: and... huh? |
| 08:08.01 | simonrvn | ;p |
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| 08:08.20 | TBBle | lsol? |
| 08:08.25 | Danar | lol = laughs out loud in certain contexts |
| 08:08.33 | Danar | or laughing out loud in others |
| 08:08.45 | simonrvn | i'm semi-trolling |
| 08:08.54 | simonrvn | the other half is joking |
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| 08:09.01 | MobyTurbo | or "lamer on line" alwaya |
| 08:09.06 | MobyTurbo | always* |
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| 08:09.33 | Danar | usage of 'lol' doesn't indicate a lamer, so it _is_ retarded |
| 08:09.35 | Octopuce | i have few problems on debian with my Sparc Ultra 30 |
| 08:09.49 | MobyTurbo | !aolify Danar |
| 08:10.00 | simonrvn | i imagine you'll share with us what those problems are? |
| 08:10.02 | Danar | this is the _only_ place on the net i've seen anyone say such a thing |
| 08:10.04 | Octopuce | if i use 2.4.x there are no sound |
| 08:10.12 | fhffhqvb | !sunday |
| 08:10.12 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 08:10.14 | Danar | aol has little to do with it |
| 08:10.22 | Octopuce | with cs4231 driver |
| 08:10.46 | simonrvn | so don't use 2.4 if you can help it ;) |
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| 08:10.50 | Octopuce | and if i use 2.6 the system start a fucking bad keyboard map |
| 08:11.04 | simonrvn | debian kernel? |
| 08:11.06 | Octopuce | and i can't do nothing |
| 08:11.07 | MobyTurbo | Danar: it has plenty to do with it, two thirds of "lol" is aol. |
| 08:11.16 | Octopuce | 2.6.8 |
| 08:11.29 | Danar | so? |
| 08:11.36 | simonrvn | tried talking to the sparc kernel people? |
| 08:11.50 | Octopuce | i tell to the system at the setup to use US layout |
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| 08:11.58 | Octopuce | nop |
| 08:12.08 | Danar | it's been around longer than aol |
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| 08:12.17 | Octopuce | the sound card seems to be muted on 2.4 |
| 08:12.22 | simonrvn | don't they have a mailing list, too? maybe check it out if there is one. lists.debian.org |
| 08:12.26 | MobyTurbo | Danar: I don't find that likely |
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| 08:12.42 | Octopuce | someone on a forum tell me that the sound card is always muted on 2.4 so not on 2.2 |
| 08:12.47 | simonrvn | probably debian-sparc or similar |
| 08:12.51 | Octopuce | oki |
| 08:13.03 | simonrvn | i see |
| 08:13.03 | Kepplar | Hi, I'm just wondering about Apt and Amavisd-new and spamassassin, if i apt-geted them will amavisd automatically use spamassassin, because i *think* its working out of the box, but I'm not sure how to tell |
| 08:13.04 | Danar | it's been seen as far back as 1973 :p |
| 08:13.18 | simonrvn | Danar: can you back that up? |
| 08:13.24 | Danar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lol |
| 08:13.39 | MobyTurbo | Danar: and lamers have been online that far back too, its just more common now. ;) |
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| 08:14.03 | TBBle | Octopuce: ALSA mutes your soundcard by default. I dunno about OSS. |
| 08:14.04 | Danar | MobyTurbo: you've yet to state anything in support of your argument |
| 08:14.15 | valdyn | the ugly thing about 'lol' is that people use it wherever they should put a '.' |
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| 08:14.19 | dawg | danar, have you ever spoken to someone on aol? |
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| 08:14.31 | Danar | a few times |
| 08:14.37 | Danar | long time ago |
| 08:14.42 | ElZorro | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.51 | simonrvn | i guess so :) |
| 08:14.51 | ElZorro | ops, sorry about that |
| 08:14.57 | simonrvn | OL is sometimes used mockingly, usually to imitate a teenage girl or a stereotypical AOL user, commonly portrayed as using lol and alternating caps in his or her Internet speech. In this sense, lol can be looked upon as a kind of "filler" word, akin to saying "ummm." Other ways of using LOL as humor is to "over use it," making no sense. Examples: |
| 08:14.59 | TBBle | Kepplar: Not as far as I know. You'll have to enable spamassassin in amavisd's config. |
| 08:15.06 | simonrvn | oops, got clipped |
| 08:15.10 | simonrvn | L+ |
| 08:15.14 | ElZorro | hehehe |
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| 08:15.38 | Danar | obviously overusing it is retarded |
| 08:15.42 | Danar | but i don't overuse it |
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| 08:16.02 | simonrvn | MobyTurbo: that's because there's more people on the net. of course the lamer/luser count is going to go up |
| 08:16.32 | cahoot | Danar: reconcile yourself with the fact that this is an expression of the culture in #debian |
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| 08:17.34 | Danar | it's called being anal |
| 08:17.41 | MobyTurbo | Danar: the very article you pointed me at contains "...a stereotypical AOL user, ocmmonly protrayed as using lol and alternating caps in his or her Internet speach." |
| 08:18.07 | Danar | technically i don't point _you_ at it :p |
| 08:18.12 | KerPlunk | Is there a place I can go on debian.org to inquiry on why a project isn't on debian.org....like if it's for licensing issues or whatever the reason is. |
| 08:18.17 | Danar | and i didn't use alternating caps |
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| 08:19.12 | bob2 | KerPlunk: yes |
| 08:19.13 | MobyTurbo | Danar: you *are* though an online lamer, which is only one step above an AOL user. |
| 08:19.13 | rbisping | 313373 d00d |
| 08:19.14 | nevyn | KerPlunk: google.. but what project? |
| 08:19.23 | Danar | i agree aolifying your text is stupid, but even so, 'lol' may be the one good thing that came of it |
| 08:19.25 | KerPlunk | nevyn: cinelerra |
| 08:19.26 | bob2 | KerPlunk: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package |
| 08:19.33 | bob2 | KerPlunk: massively incomplete |
| 08:19.34 | KerPlunk | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13554&package_id=50184 |
| 08:19.38 | Danar | MobyTurbo: you're calling me a lamer? |
| 08:19.49 | KerPlunk | http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 |
| 08:20.00 | MobyTurbo | Danar: well, that is what you're calling yourself when you say "lol" |
| 08:20.14 | Danar | no, it's not |
| 08:20.34 | tarzeau | bob2: are you catching up? |
| 08:20.49 | bob2 | to what? |
| 08:20.56 | Danar | it is quite clear that is not the definition, and is used only as an insult by anal people such as yourself who, for some reason, don't like it |
| 08:21.00 | ElZorro | Argument Clinic... |
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| 08:21.12 | simonrvn | YAY IT'S RAINING :D |
| 08:21.14 | MobyTurbo | Danar: I didn't write the dpkg factoid |
| 08:21.20 | Danar | lamer: Lamer is a jargon or slang name applied to individuals thought to be lacking in maturity, social skills, technical competence or intelligence. It is applied in a variety of contexts, though the proliferation of computer-mediated communication media such as IRC or BBSes may be partly responsible for bringing the term into common parlance. |
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| 08:21.25 | simonrvn | it's been sooo hot and sticky, 'bout time |
| 08:21.28 | ElZorro | No it's not |
| 08:21.29 | Danar | MobyTurbo: but you used it. i said 'people such as yourself' |
| 08:21.47 | tarzeau | simonrvn: heh, beautifully sunny morning here |
| 08:21.50 | tarzeau | bob2: nm? |
| 08:21.52 | bob2 | this discussion seems stupid *and* off-topic |
| 08:21.57 | bob2 | tarzeau: oh, no, I'm not in it yet |
| 08:22.10 | tarzeau | bob2: come on, you can do it, go for it |
| 08:22.21 | bob2 | tarzeau: oh, I know I can, I'm just embarassed about lyx |
| 08:22.29 | bob2 | I'll join nm when I upload a new version that doesn't use yada |
| 08:22.32 | simonrvn | looks like another flooding downpour |
| 08:22.57 | MobyTurbo | Theres a 70% chance of thunderstorms today according to wunderground. |
| 08:23.07 | elio_ | hello |
| 08:23.35 | ElZorro | A person which laughs in public saying "LOL" certainly lacks of intelligence, why do you that in the real world "Danar"? |
| 08:23.51 | Danar | ElZorro: of course not |
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| 08:23.58 | Danar | it's not a word |
| 08:23.59 | ElZorro | why do you do it here then? |
| 08:24.01 | Danar | it's an acronym |
| 08:24.14 | torc | can i backup openfirmware boot setting prior to installing on hd somehow? |
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| 08:24.18 | bob2 | enough |
| 08:24.27 | tarzeau | torc: on what hardware is that? |
| 08:24.27 | Danar | because it's the simplest, most effective way to communicate that i'm laughing |
| 08:24.35 | torc | tarzeau: powerbook, newworld. |
| 08:24.37 | Danar | which you can't see or hear in IRC |
| 08:24.47 | MobyTurbo | bob2: I've stopped |
| 08:24.49 | Danar | all this is obvious |
| 08:24.55 | Danar | what's the point in asking? |
| 08:24.56 | simonrvn | torc: sure, sudo nvsetenv > some_file |
| 08:25.12 | ElZorro | oh I see, well I don't care how you laugh, just go away |
| 08:25.29 | torc | simonrvn: how can i restore that later? |
| 08:25.43 | Danar | ElZorro: go away? and what have i done to warrant such hostility? |
| 08:25.50 | simonrvn | edit manually, or write a script using that info |
| 08:25.51 | tarzeau | torc: printenv and write it down to paper? |
| 08:26.04 | simonrvn | printenv only works from OF |
| 08:26.05 | tarzeau | torc: i don't remember, but not needed, otherwise #debianppc |
| 08:26.12 | tarzeau | simonrvn: yes, so? |
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| 08:26.17 | torc | yep, i need to make a "full" backup of my powerbook in order to be able to restore it to the current state. |
| 08:26.24 | simonrvn | we're talkiing in a booted box |
| 08:26.35 | simonrvn | no? |
| 08:26.46 | torc | i just boot from cd, store the "dd if=/dev/hda" on ftp, and the nvram settings. is that enough? |
| 08:26.49 | Danar | and if you don't care, why comment on it? |
| 08:27.03 | tarzeau | torc: if you don't change the nvram settings, they stay like they are now |
| 08:27.21 | tarzeau | simonrvn: probably. on sparc you can switch between the two without reboots (often) :) |
| 08:27.38 | torc | tarzeau: i will backup mac os x, and install debian instead. i think it will modify the openfirmware when it will set the boot loader, right? |
| 08:28.00 | simonrvn | yeh. they don't get wiped very easily. either pulling the battery out, or opt-cmd-p-r or similar (or booting mock os on oldworlds, not sure about newworlds) can wipe it |
| 08:28.08 | simonrvn | tarzeau: yeh, stop-a |
| 08:28.26 | simonrvn | apple's OF is sucky in many regards |
| 08:28.34 | tarzeau | torc: what mac is that? |
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| 08:28.47 | tarzeau | torc: why not dual boot? branden has a nice tutorial |
| 08:28.51 | torc | tarzeau: powerbook5,1 |
| 08:28.59 | simonrvn | torc: sure, but you *want* it to edit the nvram |
| 08:28.59 | torc | tarzeau: g4 17" |
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| 08:29.01 | tarzeau | torc: memory? |
| 08:29.05 | torc | tarzeau: 1gb. |
| 08:29.16 | torc | simonrvn: sure. thats why i need to have nvram backed up :) |
| 08:29.25 | simonrvn | :) |
| 08:29.27 | torc | simonrvn: i just dont have install cd, to bless the old system folder :)) |
| 08:29.28 | tarzeau | torc: you want to keep using mac os x |
| 08:29.37 | torc | tarzeau: why? :)) |
| 08:29.47 | simonrvn | my question exactly |
| 08:29.52 | tarzeau | torc: because it doesn't suck as much as debian |
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| 08:29.58 | torc | oh, lol :) |
| 08:30.04 | simonrvn | sure. ... |
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| 08:30.11 | MobyTurbo | torc: don't make me !lol again |
| 08:30.30 | torc | tarzeau: sure, i will use mac os x. but i just want to make sure, that debian really sucks. |
| 08:30.57 | tarzeau | torc: that's very good ;) |
| 08:31.02 | simonrvn | if i had the same box, i'd run linux only |
| 08:31.09 | torc | tarzeau: i dont even know the root password of the mac os x box ;) |
| 08:31.16 | tarzeau | torc: if it was a g3 that'd be completely a different thing, with say not more than 256 or 384 mb memory |
| 08:31.21 | TBBle | "password" |
| 08:31.24 | torc | tarzeau: and i want it stay the same, when i'll return that box to my buddy. |
| 08:31.42 | tarzeau | simonrvn: i certainly wouldn't |
| 08:31.43 | torc | tarzeau: suprisingly, that g4 has 1gb memory maximum :( |
| 08:31.48 | tarzeau | simonrvn: max. a small linux partition and dual boot |
| 08:31.49 | simonrvn | tarzeau: that's you |
| 08:32.06 | torc | and thats taking into account the hell large code generated for powerpc ;) |
| 08:32.46 | simonrvn | in a few years you won't have a choice in the matter, anyway |
| 08:33.12 | simonrvn | if you want an os not full of security holes |
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| 08:33.26 | torc | so, hd image + nvram dump is enough for full backup/restore? |
| 08:33.58 | torc | sure, the hd geometry wont change, and everything will stay the same. |
| 08:34.03 | torc | so, is it? |
| 08:34.03 | tarzeau | torc: wouldn't it be easier to install to an external hd? |
| 08:34.21 | achew22 | I want to say something, its not "empty of security holes" its just no one is willing to look for them really |
| 08:34.24 | tarzeau | torc: hehe i have some inner feeling that tells me you better don't do it |
| 08:34.25 | torc | tarzeau: for a borrowed power*book* - nope ;) |
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| 08:34.34 | qwertz_ | Hi! I've got a directory with utf8 encoded filenames. I'd like to change these names to iso8859-1 - is there any tool that can do this? |
| 08:34.38 | tarzeau | torc: and don't touch that harddisk |
| 08:34.52 | simonrvn | qwertz_: iconv |
| 08:34.53 | tarzeau | qwertz_: sure, it's called $SHELL |
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| 08:34.56 | torc | tarzeau: sure, i'll die from an electric shock ;) |
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| 08:35.08 | torc | tarzeau: that powerbook is going to kill me for that. |
| 08:35.30 | torc | and btw,does debian installer cd include curl? :) |
| 08:35.36 | tarzeau | torc: just tell me if it worked again, when you gave it back ;) |
| 08:35.39 | torc | gentoo does, thats why i am using it for the backup ;) |
| 08:35.42 | tarzeau | torc: no it doesn't |
| 08:35.53 | tarzeau | torc: debian installer cd doesn't even have wget |
| 08:35.56 | torc | tarzeau: i will. |
| 08:36.01 | tarzeau | it used to have telnet, i'm not sure if it still does |
| 08:36.12 | torc | heh. so, not even traceroute then? |
| 08:36.20 | tarzeau | torc: nope |
| 08:36.33 | torc | imho, if its a "network" install - then it should have a load of network tools. |
| 08:36.43 | tarzeau | torc: it doesn't |
| 08:36.44 | torc | in case of troubleshooting some download problems.. |
| 08:36.52 | TBBle | Sure it does. Busybox pretending to be wget to fetch udebs. |
| 08:36.59 | TBBle | OK, that's 'tool', not 'tools'... |
| 08:37.05 | torc | busybox's tar is extract only, eh? |
| 08:37.14 | tarzeau | torc: and "find" sucks |
| 08:37.20 | torc | indeed. |
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| 08:37.22 | qwertz_ | simonrvn, thanks for the suggestion but looking at the man page it seems that iconv transforms only the content of the files not the filename itself? |
| 08:37.50 | valdyn | qwertz_: why the hell would you even want to do that? |
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| 08:38.57 | valdyn | qwertz_: are you talking about a fat filesystem? |
| 08:39.46 | mark__ | question: I can't seem to set samba passwords for ldap users, the pam module for ldap is in /etc/pam.d/samba via an include. ideas? |
| 08:40.01 | qwertz_ | valdyn, no the files are already on the boxes hd, but the box uses iso not utf and the german umlauts are not displayed correctly |
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| 08:43.28 | valdyn | qwertz_: i dont know about any debian fs that would use iso to store filenames |
| 08:44.07 | TBBle | qwertz_: Uh, I don't think the fs cares about the encoding, that's up to your shell and related tools I think. So switch yourself to UTF-8, and rename the files? |
| 08:44.09 | valdyn | qwertz_: you can however still use 'iconv' |
| 08:44.28 | simonrvn | iso-8859-* i think s/he means |
| 08:44.41 | pax | is it safe to resize ext3 partition with QTParted? |
| 08:45.00 | nagual | its safe in the sense that it wont kill you |
| 08:45.10 | nagual | i make no other guarantees |
| 08:45.58 | valdyn | qwertz_: ls > file, recode the file, tiny little shell script to mv each file |
| 08:46.01 | pax | if it claims safe for NTFS why not ext3, anyone tried it? |
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| 08:47.12 | MobyTurbo | pax: the old version of partition magic I bought supports NTFS but not ext3 |
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| 08:48.08 | pax | MobyTurbo: thx, I used pm many times, I want to try QTParted using a Knoppinx disk to resize :) |
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| 08:49.45 | MobyTurbo | pax: you might want to ask your question in #knoppix then. |
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| 08:50.38 | pax | knoppix has nothing to do with my question, just asking folks if they used QTParted safely, thanks for the suggestion :) |
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| 08:51.04 | MobyTurbo | pax: it's got plenty to do with your question, not all versions of QTParted are safe. |
| 08:51.24 | KerPlunk | pax I have heard horror stories with qtparted |
| 08:51.25 | keenan | what's the easiest way to automatically start this distributed prime search program at boot time? |
| 08:51.29 | pax | You are correct. thx again. |
| 08:51.43 | keenan | do i have to write an /etc/init.d script myself? |
| 08:52.12 | pax | KerPlunk: ew, I'll stay away from it then (: |
| 08:52.21 | rata | keenan, update-rc.d ? |
| 08:53.02 | keenan | but it didn't come with a sysv-style init script |
| 08:53.43 | keenan | it automatically renices itself, i just want it run at boot, preferably as a user other than root |
| 08:54.09 | rata | keenan, ahh, so i think that you will have to. But it is very easy to wirte it :) |
| 08:54.55 | keenan | so should it use "su" to change to a different user? |
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| 08:56.01 | keenan | oh, i think "start-stop-daemon" might help |
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| 08:58.10 | rata | keenan, hmm, i dont know how to set the user, but it is posible, keep reading ;) |
| 08:58.26 | keenan | looks like start-stop-daemon has a --user option |
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| 09:01.02 | boris`` | i have a problem with debian |
| 09:02.24 | boris`` | it sucks |
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| 09:03.00 | TBBle | That's more of a CK Interface problem... |
| 09:03.11 | rata | boris``, if you want someone to help you, thats not the best way... ;) |
| 09:03.18 | keenan | all right, now it starts up when i do "invoke-rc.d sb start" |
| 09:04.09 | boris`` | rata: i don't know if you can help me |
| 09:04.27 | rata | boris``, me neither |
| 09:04.28 | boris`` | because you see, the fault is with debian |
| 09:04.32 | boris`` | the problem is that it sucks |
| 09:05.22 | rata | boris``, thats your conclusion.... thats not the real problem (the thinks which make you to think that) |
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| 09:06.10 | MobyTurbo | !sunday |
| 09:06.10 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 09:06.34 | rata | *thinks, things |
| 09:06.45 | boris`` | dpkg: you call me a freak? |
| 09:06.57 | mina_linux_Tux | some guide about drupal here ? |
| 09:07.29 | boris`` | dpkg: that may be, but it doesn't change the fact that debian sucks |
| 09:07.54 | mina_linux_Tux | boris``: why debian sucks ? |
| 09:07.55 | TBBle | boris``: That's neat. I've never see a vacuum cleaner running Debian. |
| 09:08.00 | TBBle | seen. |
| 09:08.30 | torc | what is the best block size for "dd if=/dev/hda | gzip -9c" ? |
| 09:08.35 | MobyTurbo | boris``: carrying on a conversation with a bot doesn't exactly add to your credibility |
| 09:09.52 | boris`` | debian sucks |
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| 09:10.43 | toresbe | Mmmmm... jazz music for teh win <3 |
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| 09:11.38 | dodgey | aww boris was cool |
| 09:12.18 | hiway | is there any way to enable editing the gnome menu through right-clicking on it in what's currently in unstable? |
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| 09:16.47 | visik7 | how can I keep only the last version of python installed ? |
| 09:17.07 | dondelelcaro | visik7: by using aptitude or deborphan to remove unused versions of python. |
| 09:17.21 | coll | i remember once saying that i couldnt connect to my proftpd/http server runing on the gateway from the gateway (local) machine and someone mentioned something about 'apache routing' or like that... does anyone know whats this about? |
| 09:18.04 | dondelelcaro | coll: uh, you shouldn't have a problem connecting to it |
| 09:18.12 | visik7 | coll mod_proxy |
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| 09:18.38 | dondelelcaro | (unless you're not really running apache on the gateway itself) |
| 09:19.21 | joris | for http there could be a problem with the servername directive or something |
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| 09:22.29 | boukensya | hey guys. I am looking for a very simple personal finance program so I can easily manage my funds, credit cards and transactions. I checked out gnucash and it seems way too complex for what I want to do |
| 09:22.41 | nvz | hiway wants to reprogram gnome-panel to behave like the start menu on explorer.exe |
| 09:22.45 | nvz | heh |
| 09:22.50 | GiRlY21 | Hi somebody know a program to scan all wi-fi router close of my home? |
| 09:23.16 | visik7 | why removing python2.3 gcc-3.4-base is removed too ? |
| 09:23.17 | nvz | GiRlY21: kismet |
| 09:23.22 | GiRlY21 | thanks |
| 09:23.45 | boukensya | your wifi nic needs to suport it |
| 09:24.30 | mina_linux_Tux | does drupal requires good knowledge of php ? |
| 09:24.38 | nvz | GiRlY21: kwifimanager |
| 09:24.57 | empty | GiRlY21, a basic scan is iwlist eth0(or whatever) scan |
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| 09:25.27 | nvz | GiRlY21: really all depends on if you are allowed on the network or not which tool you need >8) |
| 09:26.08 | nvz | dpkg, drupal? |
| 09:26.08 | dpkg | well, drupal is http://www.drupal.org or needs a new maintainer |
| 09:26.13 | simonrvn | should see some of the trollish emails for justfuckinggoogleit.com... (follow the easter egg) |
| 09:26.18 | simonrvn | LAME! |
| 09:27.03 | nvz | simonrvn: goto bed.. heh :P |
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| 09:27.49 | keenan | i was kinda freaking out because it froze on bootup and wouldn't let me do anything |
| 09:28.01 | simonrvn | nvz: not tired :) |
| 09:28.02 | keenan | then i added the --background option and now it works fine =P |
| 09:28.19 | nvz | simonrvn: me either .. I tried. |
| 09:28.29 | keenan | start-stop-daemon is pretty nifty |
| 09:28.44 | rata | keenan, do you make it work ? |
| 09:28.51 | simonrvn | keenan: yes it is |
| 09:29.15 | keenan | starts up in its own home directory and everything |
| 09:29.35 | boukensya | is there a program like paperport for linux? |
| 09:29.44 | keenan | so now it's hard at work using my idle cycles to solve the Sierpinski problem |
| 09:30.02 | nvz | I should've bought myself some liquer when I was buying alcohol for the minors so they could go get arrested at the Allman Brothers Concert.. heh |
| 09:30.32 | simonrvn | *blink* |
| 09:31.10 | nvz | they wonder why I wont go to concerts with them.. like c'mon guys.. I know we used to kick it in school, but you's are all like 2 years younger than me and if I goto a concert with you I will be in jail |
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| 09:31.58 | coll | dondelelcaro: probably my tcp wrappers then |
| 09:32.02 | coll | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 09:33.19 | keenan | argh, darn chinese won again: http://www.imo2005.org/results.htm |
| 09:33.42 | keenan | someone from the US team got a perfect 42 tho |
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| 09:34.00 | ocran | Hello |
| 09:34.33 | keenan | hi, ocran |
| 09:35.00 | rata | keenan, buu, argentina does not won a gold medal :( |
| 09:36.18 | keenan | rata: hey, they didn't do so bad comparatively |
| 09:36.21 | ocran | OK, so I just got finished installed to this laptop, ... Partitions: boot, win2k/nx3/swap/linux.... Anyhow, I installed windoes first, then linux, installed lilo to mbr, but can't get back to windows. I was using the "other" method in lilo. It seems that I screwed myself, anyone see any ideas? Thanks. |
| 09:36.24 | keenan | just look at bolivia =P |
| 09:36.53 | nvz | its okay for my younger 19 year old pals to get stupid drunk and beat each other up every now and then.. as long as I am not around |
| 09:37.25 | keenan | ocran: use grub |
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| 09:37.47 | ocran | keenan, you think it will be able to recover the lost cause? |
| 09:37.59 | keenan | worth a shot |
| 09:38.19 | nvz | shot of what? |
| 09:38.22 | nvz | :P |
| 09:38.24 | ocran | Yeah, what the hell.... Just if NX3 came in Linux!!! |
| 09:38.59 | rata | ocran, you can not boot into windows partition, or you delete it ? |
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| 09:40.38 | ocran | rata just can't boot into it, |
| 09:40.46 | ocran | I just mounted it to see if it was still there |
| 09:40.54 | rata | ocran, read your lilo.conf |
| 09:41.30 | rata | ocran, it says (and if i dont remember, it puts an example... but i recomend you to use grub instead of lilo :) |
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| 09:42.53 | ocran | rata, I was using the lilo method correctly(pretty sure, as I did it on a different machine the other day)... this one just has a different partition style. At the moment I am learning how to boot with grub |
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| 09:43.24 | nvz | hmm I wonder what time the store opens. I think its 6am |
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| 09:44.50 | visik7 | python2.4-mpz: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.3.92-1) but 2.4.1-3 is installed. |
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| 09:45.21 | visik7 | (just to report it) |
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| 09:45.37 | nvz | umm? |
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| 09:45.46 | nvz | if you are going to report something you report it to the BTS |
| 09:45.54 | simonrvn | visik7: apt-get install reportbug. man reportbug. we're not the BTS here |
| 09:45.57 | nvz | not to random debian _users_ in an IRC channel |
| 09:46.05 | visik7 | :) |
| 09:46.07 | visik7 | ok sorry |
| 09:46.31 | nvz | what a couple of insomniacs we are |
| 09:46.46 | visik7 | here is 11:46am :) |
| 09:46.54 | keenan | where is python2.4-mpz anyway, it's not in unstable? |
| 09:46.57 | rata | nvz, in my country are 6.49 am an i didnt sleep yet :) |
| 09:47.03 | simonrvn | indeed. i've been like this for as long as i can remember, heh |
| 09:47.21 | flux | can anyone tell me how to associate my wireless card to an ap??? maybe a website or a program??? |
| 09:47.25 | visik7 | keenan is in unstable yes |
| 09:47.27 | zumbi | jojo_: ping ! |
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| 09:47.58 | visik7 | flux setting ssid channel and wep/wpa key if it's necessary |
| 09:48.00 | ocran | Alright, I am going to go try this grub deal out. |
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| 09:48.24 | nvz | flux: use a few more question marks in place of making sense.. I can almost understand you. |
| 09:48.54 | flux | visik7 : i just got a wireless card i dont know how, is it with the iwconfig command? |
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| 09:49.20 | visik7 | check first if it's supported |
| 09:49.24 | visik7 | btw yes iwconfig |
| 09:49.33 | flux | nvz: funny, thanks for trying to help. |
| 09:49.40 | nvz | I don't know how many more times I can start xine and see that fucking christmas tree |
| 09:49.56 | keenan | hahaha |
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| 09:51.04 | nvz | its like 5 months away from christmas.. and even if it were christmas morning I don't want to see that shit |
| 09:51.16 | ^Duffy^ | what package do I need in order to allow perl to setuid? |
| 09:51.17 | nvz | I dont need festiv applications |
| 09:51.26 | ^Duffy^ | tried perl-setuid, but it doesnt exist |
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| 09:51.56 | nvz | aside from the christmas decor I much prefer xine to mplayer now |
| 09:52.02 | keenan | apt-cache search perl setuid |
| 09:52.10 | keenan | -> perl-suid |
| 09:52.13 | nvz | it really does work much better IMHO |
| 09:52.20 | ^Duffy^ | thanks ke6isf |
| 09:52.21 | ^Duffy^ | err |
| 09:52.23 | ^Duffy^ | keenan ;) |
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| 09:53.43 | keenan | I'm thinking of writing my own xine frontend |
| 09:54.27 | keenan | xine-ui is pretty ugly, and gxine and totem aren't much better |
| 09:54.37 | keenan | pyxine sounds cool but it's not maintained anymore |
| 09:55.38 | nvz | I couldnt find gxine when I installed this xine-ui package.. and the ui dissapeared after the first use.. all I got is the video window.. |
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| 09:56.02 | nvz | personally I dont like the UI anyhow.. I just want to see the video |
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| 09:56.29 | keenan | right, that's why xine-ui would be good if the menus and stuff didn't look like crap |
| 09:56.46 | keenan | just a nice window with the video in it |
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| 09:57.40 | concept10 | my process list shows a apache2 webserver and I dont have apache2 installed... what gives??: root 10361 0.0 0.6 7124 2792 ? SNs 04:51 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL |
| 09:58.30 | concept10 | should I purge it? |
| 09:58.42 | concept10 | I had it installed before just to show someone |
| 09:58.58 | paulswm | concept10: are you using apt-get or aptitude |
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| 09:59.09 | concept10 | paulswm, apt-get |
| 09:59.10 | keenan | concept10: you might have removed the meta-package but not the actual package |
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| 09:59.31 | keenan | apache2 just depends on the default one i think |
| 09:59.32 | floppyears | concept10: use aptitude it's much better than apt-get |
| 09:59.35 | concept10 | What should I do, purge |
| 09:59.35 | Mikee | on which run level should i put my script to load my firewall? |
| 09:59.40 | paulswm | concept10: use the -s option on the purge, that will simulate and you can see what it's going to do. Then do it again without the -s option. |
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| 10:00.41 | cat | hey how can i put a gpg key like this -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- |
| 10:00.42 | cat | Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) |
| 10:00.43 | floppyears | concept10: back up your config file in case you want to use it later on |
| 10:00.53 | concept10 | paulswm, should I run this: dpkg -rs --purge apache2? |
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| 10:01.36 | keenan | concept10: i think you need to remove apache2-mpm-worker, because that's the package that actually has apache2 in it |
| 10:01.37 | GiRlY21 | what i need to add in /etc/securetty to allow root to log in x.org please |
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| 10:07.13 | concept10 | keenan, thanks - that stopped and removed the server - I just need to remove the rest of the stuff |
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| 10:07.50 | keenan | concept10: "deborphan" is pretty useful for getting rid of old packages you don't need |
| 10:08.09 | concept10 | keenan, sample format? |
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| 10:09.05 | keenan | you just run "deborphan" and it gives a list of libraries that aren't being used |
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| 10:09.18 | keenan | so you can do apt-get remove $(deborphan) |
| 10:09.40 | keenan | or there's a friendly program called "orphaner" |
| 10:09.50 | Mikee | on which run level should i load my firewall? |
| 10:10.14 | concept10 | deborphan | grep apache doesnt list anything |
| 10:10.30 | GiRlY21 | what is the normal run level please |
| 10:10.31 | keenan | right, cuz by default it only list lib* packages |
| 10:10.33 | concept10 | Does orphaner depend on deborphan |
| 10:10.40 | keenan | it comes with it |
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| 10:10.46 | simonrvn | GiRlY21: grep default /etc/inittab |
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| 10:11.09 | GiRlY21 | thanks |
| 10:12.01 | deadcat | default is 2. and debian do everything on 2. fuck 3 and 5 |
| 10:12.56 | war- | Question-- Are there any good Debian apt sites like merlliat? |
| 10:13.04 | keenan | lol |
| 10:13.31 | quittt | war-, no |
| 10:13.33 | keenan | war-: debian.org/mirrors |
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| 10:13.48 | concept10 | keenan, deborphan seems great for libraries. I thought that apt-get remove would remove the meta-package and all of the associated directories or am I wrong? |
| 10:14.15 | floppyears | concept10: no, it doesn't aptitude does though |
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| 10:15.03 | keenan | right, aptitude is smart enough to know what packages aren't being used; apt-get is simpler |
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| 10:15.20 | concept10 | what about synaptic |
| 10:15.57 | concept10 | I mean does synaptic have similar behaviour to aptitude? |
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| 10:16.39 | TBBle | Well, aptitude knows which packages aren't being used that you didn't ask it to install. |
| 10:17.00 | TBBle | If you wanna know which packages aren't needed at all, that's deborphan -a |
| 10:17.25 | floppyears | war-: what's happened to merlliat ? |
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| 10:18.06 | concept10 | deborphan -a told me I dont need k3b along with alot of other stuff :) |
| 10:18.43 | keenan | concept10: it's just telling you that no other package depends on k3b, so you can remove it if you want |
| 10:18.52 | keenan | not that you "should" remove it =P |
| 10:18.53 | TBBle | Well, then nothing's requiring you to have k3b. ^_^ |
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| 10:19.34 | concept10 | keenan, TBBle thanks, I understand now. |
| 10:19.55 | caskey_ | postgress/exim/ssmtp all provide the same virtual dependency, but I can't just remove one and then install the other, how do I 'swap' exim for ssmtp w/o using dselect? |
| 10:20.21 | TBBle | concept10: No wuckers. ^_^ |
| 10:20.31 | caskey_ | I've read the man pages for dpkg and figure that turning on forcing will help, but that doesn't seem to be the right solution |
| 10:20.44 | concept10 | Okay, I removed apache-common and apache-utils and it removed everything (Synaptic). I guess I wont be putting giving webserver demos on my laptop anymore |
| 10:21.06 | keenan | caskey_: plain apt-get install doesn't work? |
| 10:21.17 | TBBle | caskey_: I presume in dselect you ask it to install one, and it should automatically remove the other one. |
| 10:21.22 | caskey_ | It tells me that ssmtp conflicts |
| 10:21.53 | concept10 | Aptitude seems okay but the interface sucks, I would only mess around it on my server box. Synaptic is a great app, probably one of the top 10 in linux IMHO |
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| 10:22.17 | TBBle | caskey_: Agree, and let it remove it. |
| 10:22.31 | caskey_ | TBBle, it says it conflicts, yeah. I'd like to do it w/o dselect because I have a .deb |
| 10:23.01 | TBBle | caskey_: Ah. _Without_ dselect, that's tricky. |
| 10:23.15 | caskey_ | TBBle, that's how I 'usually' do it. So dselect is essentially forcing it? |
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| 10:24.01 | caskey_ | TBBle, I have a custom .deb which incorporates a number of site-specific modifications that I need to replace the default mailer package with |
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| 10:24.24 | bentele | #list |
| 10:24.29 | caskey_ | TBBle, having to do this manually via dselect is just a little cumbersome |
| 10:24.41 | quittt | debian can run in a 386? |
| 10:24.42 | TBBle | Yeah, dselect is forcing it. If you watch apt doing such things, you'll see dpkg complain. So you can do the same with dpkg, I just don't remember the --force commands. |
| 10:24.57 | quittt | !386 |
| 10:25.04 | TBBle | !386 |
| 10:25.08 | war- | floppyears: nothing, just wondering if there were other ones like merlliat for other purposes, docs, or etc |
| 10:25.13 | caskey_ | TBBle, that's what I figured. Thanks |
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| 10:25.24 | floppyears | war-: oh |
| 10:25.35 | MobyTurbo | war-: http://apt-get.org/ |
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| 10:25.53 | tarzeau | quittt: really you don't want to |
| 10:25.58 | tarzeau | quittt: how much memory? |
| 10:27.14 | quittt | it is not for me |
| 10:27.18 | war- | MobyTurbo: thx. |
| 10:27.21 | quittt | which distro should I use for 386? |
| 10:27.26 | MobyTurbo | war-: np |
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| 10:27.47 | possie | hi |
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| 10:28.00 | MobyTurbo | quittt: use something with libc5 to save memory |
| 10:28.32 | possie | i want to have my module loaded before the INIT starts, how can i do this? cause i made a mkinitrd, and in /etc/mkinitrd/modules i put my qla2300_conf and qla2300 modules |
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| 10:33.16 | caskey_ | running dpkg -x gives me the files in the package but not the scripts, how can I extract the preinst scripts so I can examine them? |
| 10:33.55 | TBBle | man dpkg-deb ? |
| 10:34.13 | TBBle | No, wait. dpkg-deb -x blak out should put the scripts in blak/DEBIAN |
| 10:34.26 | TBBle | I _presume_ dpkg -x is multiplexing through to dpkg-deb. |
| 10:34.31 | caskey_ | I used dpkg -x, turns out dpkg-deb -e was it |
| 10:34.40 | TBBle | fg |
| 10:34.42 | TBBle | Ooops |
| 10:34.48 | caskey_ | after asking I realized that dpkg probably uses dpkg-deb for extraction |
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| 10:35.32 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: you like jackie chan films? |
| 10:35.45 | MobyTurbo | tarzeau: they're nice |
| 10:36.06 | tarzeau | which one is the one with the hover craft in the end? |
| 10:36.16 | nvz | Rumble In The Bronx |
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| 10:36.29 | tarzeau | MobyTurbo: friend gave me an old one (no subtitles, not english, not german) LOL |
| 10:36.32 | nvz | I got some of his earlier movies before he could speak english |
| 10:36.35 | tarzeau | nvz: thanks |
| 10:36.59 | nvz | not that he speaks english now |
| 10:37.04 | tarzeau | nvz: like "policy story 2"= |
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| 10:37.20 | ircdevil | ehrm? anybody know what version of css galeon supports ? |
| 10:37.21 | concept10 | me speaka no englsha |
| 10:37.29 | ircdevil | galeon sarge that is |
| 10:37.31 | MobyTurbo | nvz: what is wrong with the way he speak engrish? |
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| 10:37.55 | nvz | MobyTurbo: watch them movies with him and Chris Tucker, neither one of them speaks english too well |
| 10:38.14 | MobyTurbo | nvz: I think I've seen one of those. |
| 10:38.38 | nvz | damn I am getting tired now |
| 10:38.46 | concept10 | nvz, Chris Tucker is funny as hell |
| 10:38.48 | nvz | tarzeau: yeah pulp fiction is a good movie |
| 10:39.09 | concept10 | Pulp Fiction is great |
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| 10:39.15 | nvz | you get to see a woman snort heroin thinking it is cocain |
| 10:39.34 | nvz | then you get to see her husband cornholed by the police |
| 10:39.41 | nvz | its a classic |
| 10:40.00 | concept10 | nvz, you like Tarentino (sp) |
| 10:40.23 | concept10 | do you like his movies? |
| 10:40.58 | concept10 | nvz, have you ever seen his first movie? its wacked out but so damn funny at the end |
| 10:41.32 | nvz | I have no idea. |
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| 10:42.23 | tarzeau | i've only seen the one with the vamps, in mexico of him |
| 10:42.32 | nvz | I'm going to the store. or going to try anyhow. if this shitty town is awake yet |
| 10:42.43 | caskey_ | I have a .deb where I need to edit the preinst script and then install, can I do that using only the .deb and the dpkg* tools? |
| 10:42.48 | tarzeau | nvz: what time it over there? sunday? |
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| 10:42.57 | tarzeau | how much habitants in your town? |
| 10:43.00 | nvz | Sunday Morning 6:41am |
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| 10:43.15 | concept10 | this is the movie im talking about: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113101/ |
| 10:43.17 | tarzeau | nvz: no stores open sundays, here in switzerland (outside Zurich ;) |
| 10:43.32 | nvz | I have no clue of the population figures.. I could find out shortly.. its a 1.2sq mile town we call Leetsdale |
| 10:44.06 | nvz | time for all of us to hide out on little freenode, the freaks will be rushing #debian any minute |
| 10:44.09 | tarzeau | ah "From Dusk Till Dawn" is the one i've seen, and "Desperado" |
| 10:44.20 | possie | no one in here using initrd? |
| 10:44.29 | tarzeau | possie: debian is, but i don't like it |
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| 10:44.51 | Teufel | Could someone help me set up a cron command? I have read three manuals on it but don't quite undersatnd it... I just want to run the command "gotmail --folders "Inbox" every minute |
| 10:45.04 | tarzeau | Teufel: read man 5 crontab yet? |
| 10:45.16 | possie | tarzeau: i don't like it either, but i'm having a problem that i need the qla2300 driver for 2.4 kernel, and i can only find it as a module |
| 10:45.35 | tarzeau | possie: oh cool, is the module packaged for debian? |
| 10:45.54 | Teufel | tarzeau: yeah... I guess I'm stupid, I don't understand what all the crap is still. When I edit /etc/crontab it seems like there are a lot of options that I don't know wtf are there for |
| 10:46.11 | tarzeau | possie: look check this, gnu.ethz.ch/kernel-2.4.31/ |
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| 10:46.25 | tarzeau | Teufel: no you want EDITOR=yourfavourite crontab -e |
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| 10:46.31 | tarzeau | Teufel: let me give you the line you want |
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| 10:47.48 | tarzeau | Teufel: * or */1 * * * * /path/to/gotmail --folders "Inbox" |
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| 10:48.22 | nvz | speaking of puplp fiction, guess who just logged on to little freenode |
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| 10:48.24 | Teufel | tarzeau: I just put that in the /etc/crontab file? |
| 10:48.31 | possie | tarzeau: no the module isn't package for debian, it just some source code, which will create a .o file |
| 10:48.52 | nvz | Pulp Fiction even |
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| 10:49.15 | schlurchz | tarzeau: crontab -e requires an appropriate in cron.allow, IIRC |
| 10:49.26 | nvz | just seen Bruce Willis in #freenode on little freenode |
| 10:49.27 | tarzeau | schlurchz: that's usually there |
| 10:49.30 | nvz | heh |
| 10:49.36 | schlurchz | tarzeau: appropriate _entry_, I meant. |
| 10:49.45 | tarzeau | Teufel: no, run the command i told you |
| 10:49.59 | tarzeau | nvz: where? |
| 10:50.21 | tarzeau | possie: i see, no idea then, just build it? what's the problem? |
| 10:50.26 | nvz | tarzeau: #freenode, on little freenode. what I said, when I said, what I said, when I said it |
| 10:51.03 | tarzeau | 12:50 [gnu] -!- Cannot join to channel #freenode (You have joined to too many channels) |
| 10:51.08 | tarzeau | i absolutely hate freenode |
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| 10:51.17 | nvz | tarzeau: this is big freenode, its not on this server |
| 10:51.25 | schlurchz | tarzeau: Ah, I see it's enabled for Debian systems without any cron.{allow,deny}. |
| 10:51.26 | Teufel | tarzeau: Um... I'm getting a bash can't find command */1 lol... |
| 10:51.51 | tarzeau | Teufel: you have to write it when you type enter after crontab -e |
| 10:51.56 | Kepplar | tarzeau: if your using irssi+Screen, just start another screen with other channels :P |
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| 10:52.07 | tarzeau | Kepplar: i use them. but i don't want another nick |
| 10:52.18 | Kepplar | tarzeau: point |
| 10:52.21 | tarzeau | Kepplar: why not start just another server connection? |
| 10:52.24 | nvz | I don't think you have to use another screen. I am on here twice |
| 10:52.34 | Kepplar | tarzeau: will it like it? |
| 10:52.35 | tarzeau | i hate more than one screen session |
| 10:52.36 | nksen | Kepplar: but you get problems then with the default config of irssi |
| 10:52.42 | tarzeau | Kepplar: of course, i'm like on 5 servers now |
| 10:52.44 | nvz | well I am on little freenode and big freenode right now anyhow |
| 10:52.47 | Kepplar | tarzeau: same server i mean |
| 10:52.55 | tarzeau | Kepplar: no that's fine as well |
| 10:53.04 | Kepplar | cool |
| 10:53.05 | tarzeau | Kepplar: if the server doesn't absolutely suck ass |
| 10:53.27 | nksen | tarzeau: so why are you complaining? :) |
| 10:53.29 | possie | tarzeau: building the module isn't the proble, the module works, but i want to boot from my qla2300, so i need the driver to be loaded before INIT tries to execute, but even when i create the initrd, it doesn't do that |
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| 10:54.03 | Teufel | tarzeau: ah ok, but I'm getting bad doy-of-month error now, can't install |
| 10:54.04 | tarzeau | nksen: because i can't join more than 20 channels with the same nickname |
| 10:54.19 | nksen | tarzeau: oh i see. but i'm sure noone cares about your nick :) |
| 10:54.27 | tarzeau | nksen: except me |
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| 10:55.06 | torc | how do i update the current sarge to testing? |
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| 10:58.03 | pax | anyone knows how big is the Debian DVD? |
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| 10:58.13 | nvz | pax: which one? heh |
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| 10:58.17 | nvz | pax: Sarge takes two |
| 10:58.50 | pax | nvz, yes two, I'm d/l the first and it's been kicking for oover an hour |
| 10:59.25 | nvz | kudos, I gave up after a few minutes |
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| 10:59.34 | pax | ..and I'm doing 500 Kb/s |
| 10:59.47 | Teufel | How can I tell where the path to the command I'm using is? Arn't they usually in /etc ? |
| 11:00.01 | keenan | there needs to be something on debian.org that says *HINT* you don't want to download the whole thing *HINT* use netinst instead |
| 11:00.07 | pax | the thing is at 4.4GB so far, hope it will stop |
| 11:00.17 | nvz | keenan: actually there is |
| 11:00.22 | schlurchz | Teufel: try which |
| 11:00.37 | keenan | needs to have a bigger font then =P |
| 11:00.40 | nvz | keenan: most people don't know how to read.. its sad in this age people still cand read |
| 11:00.42 | schlurchz | Teufel: which <command> |
| 11:00.47 | Teufel | schlurchz: ah, thanks! |
| 11:01.14 | nvz | if they arent open by now they will be when I get there if I gotta break the door down |
| 11:01.37 | enyc | '?what nvz after? |
| 11:01.43 | pax | if every question is a stupid one, what's a channel/community for? (respectfully) |
| 11:02.07 | nvz | there are no stupid questions, just stupid people |
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| 11:02.26 | nvz | so dont feel bad :P |
| 11:02.40 | pax | ok, so if *all* people coming here are stupid then, only the elit shall come in? :) |
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| 11:03.25 | Pego | hi |
| 11:03.28 | pax | I dont feel bad at all, just another stupid reflection from another stupid Debian user wannabe :) |
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| 11:04.43 | yahalom | how can i connect to another box using xdmcp? |
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| 11:05.48 | enyc | pax: 4686706688 bytes for 3.1r0a dvd-1 4428851200 bytes for 3.1r0a dvd-2 seemingly |
| 11:06.09 | pax | enyc: thank you |
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| 11:07.07 | Dennis_ | hey all , i followed the howto form netinstall from usb stick but my pc doesn't boot from it |
| 11:07.37 | enyc | denn: well, does you machine _support_ booting from such device? |
| 11:07.46 | enyc | denn: is your bios-configureaion _set_ to boot from such device ? |
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| 11:09.16 | Teufel | tarzeau: thanks, got it all set up right now |
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| 11:09.40 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 11:09.40 | dpkg | i guess debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 11:09.46 | Teufel | !smarthost |
| 11:09.46 | dpkg | smarthost is, like, an SMTP relay. Mail-Administrator-HOWTO is at tldp.org |
| 11:10.13 | pax | Iif it mounts with # mount -w -o noatime /dev/sda1 /memstick (exemple) then it should go on /etc/fstab with options (defaults, user, auto) I believe |
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| 11:12.20 | Pego | hi anyone know a easy way to install debian with evms on root |
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| 11:13.11 | Octavian_ | hi there |
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| 11:16.13 | Octavian_ | does anyone know the package to handle locally compiled .debs? |
| 11:16.46 | linuxfreck | Octavian_: dpkg? checkinstall? |
| 11:17.13 | Octavian_ | linuxfreck: no |
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| 11:17.19 | nicknicknick | hi |
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| 11:17.25 | linuxfreck | then it depends on your definition of "handle" |
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| 11:17.54 | gdv | The following packages have been kept back: x-window-system-core xbase-clients xutils |
| 11:17.56 | nicknicknick | uhm I just deinstalled a .deb and when I do dpkg -la|grep package name ... it's still there. What should I do about that? |
| 11:17.59 | gdv | what does that actually mean? |
| 11:17.59 | nicknicknick | is that normal? |
| 11:18.05 | Octavian_ | linuxfreck: i mean... each time i recompile package from scratch (eg with other args to configure/make) i want to see it as "local" in aptitude |
| 11:18.08 | gdv | and why is that in unstable? |
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| 11:18.17 | enyc | nick: hrm, is it in state 'deinstall' ? |
| 11:18.33 | Teufel | I am looking into trying to get a smarthost to forward my email from my new mailserver. Are there sites that offer smarthosting for free? |
| 11:18.44 | Octavian_ | linuxfreck: there is pentium-builder or athlon-builder, but these are only for debs with optimation |
| 11:18.44 | nicknicknick | enyc apt-get remove packagename |
| 11:19.00 | linuxfreck | !kept back |
| 11:19.00 | dpkg | i heard kept back is when packages have not been upgraded, even though newer versions are available, because it cannot resolve dependencies for the newer version, or when you told it to hold packages, or when you used "upgrade" instead of "dist-upgrade", or the safest way to resolve this is perhaps to 'apt-get install <kept-package>' and it will resolve stuff for you.. |
| 11:19.05 | enyc | nick: erm, do "apt-cache show packagename" |
| 11:19.30 | enyc | nick: I think this is normal.. if the package includes configarion-files... debian likes to keep them installed... |
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| 11:19.42 | enyc | nick: look at the status: line from 'apt-cache show [packagename]' |
| 11:19.42 | linuxfreck | Teufel: your isp's mailserver maybe |
| 11:19.47 | Octavian_ | bye |
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| 11:19.52 | enyc | nick It may say "Status: deinstall ok config-files" ... |
| 11:19.58 | nicknicknick | enyc: Status: deinstall ok config-files |
| 11:19.58 | nicknicknick | Priority: optional |
| 11:20.10 | gdv | if I do apt-get install x-window-system, it would remove bittornado-gui, bzflag, planetpenguin-racer, tuxracer, vlc, xracer and many more. why? |
| 11:20.12 | enyc | nick: yes, that means, not installed, but configuration-files left in place |
| 11:20.15 | linuxfreck | Teufel: all mail servers have restrictions of some kind due to the spam problem |
| 11:20.19 | Teufel | linuxfreck: how would I figure out what it is? |
| 11:20.19 | gdv | I'm using xorg with sid |
| 11:20.30 | nicknicknick | ok |
| 11:20.31 | enyc | kick: you can "dpkg -P [packagename]" now to remove the config files leftover and the package will disappear from dpkg -l |
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| 11:20.56 | enyc | nick: you can also: "apt-get --purge remove [packagename]" [same thing essentially, but deals with dependancies etc. too] |
| 11:20.57 | linuxfreck | Teufel: should be in the help pages for your isp |
| 11:21.02 | qwertz_ | Where can I get the kernel-nonfree-modules-2.6.11-686-smp package although I've non-free in my sources.list I can't find it? |
| 11:21.15 | Teufel | linuxfreck: ah just googled it, does smtp.comcast.net sound right? |
| 11:21.16 | nicknicknick | thanks enyc |
| 11:21.22 | drac | qwertz_: Huh? What's that? |
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| 11:21.41 | linuxfreck | Teufel: well no idea |
| 11:21.58 | enyc | teuf: sounds right for comcast customers to deliver outbound mail.. but only comcast know.. try it;-) |
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| 11:23.12 | qwertz_ | drac, in this package are some modules that the debian maintainer see as non-free and are not in the debian kernel image package (I need tg3 from broadcom for my primergy server) |
| 11:23.27 | xtreme4s | is it possible for a file to run itself? ie execute itself? reason im asking is that im allowing files to be uploaded to my server via HTTP and i just want to check that there arnt files that can run themselves. |
| 11:24.00 | enyc | xtre: err, well.. not as such, not unless something calls it ;-) |
| 11:24.18 | xtreme4s | i knida knew that, just wanted to check :) |
| 11:24.31 | enyc | xtre: if the file(s) weew put somwhere in the active PATH of something else that doesnt specify file-path explicitly.. then could be 'tricked' into running them |
| 11:24.49 | paulswm | xtreme4s: a script can call itslef, of course, but still neeeds something else to start it off :) |
| 11:24.57 | nicknicknick | I installed some custom php4 debs. with my own php4.gd bundled. If I check the info.php it shows php4-gd bundled: like: GD Version bundled (2.0.28 compatible) . But If I test GD I get this: http://www.devledder.nl/tt/test/gdtest.php |
| 11:25.03 | xtreme4s | thanks guys :) |
| 11:25.07 | nicknicknick | nothing found in the error_log file |
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| 11:28.33 | bykte | hi if i want to install mysql from mysql.com what apt-cache should i use? |
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| 11:29.28 | shadowcat | you shouldn't |
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| 11:30.02 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 11:30.12 | bykte | shadowcat, what do you mean? |
| 11:30.32 | shadowcat | sigh |
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| 11:30.43 | bykte | i am downloading from mysql.com now |
| 11:30.51 | shadowcat | the .deb in the repositories most certainly ain't from mysql.com |
| 11:30.56 | bykte | mysql-standard-4.1.12-pc-linux-gnu-i686.tar.gz |
| 11:30.58 | bykte | this one |
| 11:31.15 | bykte | i see shadowcat |
| 11:31.32 | linuxfreck | bykte: why don't you just use the package from debian? |
| 11:31.33 | enyc | 'bykt: use "apt-cache search mysql" to search for mysql packages in your current apt repositories setup |
| 11:31.38 | TBBle | bykte: The essential and natural form of a .deb is that it ends in .deb. |
| 11:31.57 | bykte | linuxfreck, shadowcat said the .deb is not from mysql.com |
| 11:32.03 | bykte | i am afraid it might conflict with my code |
| 11:32.09 | bykte | since i am using the windows version of mysql.com |
| 11:32.10 | shadowcat | yawn |
| 11:32.18 | shadowcat | Windows version? |
| 11:32.24 | bykte | yes |
| 11:32.26 | shadowcat | you have absolutely no idea of what you're doing do you |
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| 11:33.05 | tarzeau | can any of you enjoy dancing? |
| 11:33.11 | bykte | shadowcat, yes, i do |
| 11:33.18 | bykte | i have code to access the database in windows.. |
| 11:33.23 | bykte | so i want to shift the database to linux |
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| 11:33.31 | shadowcat | *sigh* |
| 11:33.32 | shadowcat | as I said |
| 11:33.36 | linuxfreck | sarge has the mysql server from mysql.com packaged |
| 11:33.37 | shadowcat | you have no idea of what you're doing |
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| 11:33.42 | linuxfreck | the package is mysql-server. |
| 11:33.49 | shadowcat | linuxfreck: well indirectly from mysql |
| 11:33.56 | shadowcat | I bet they've modified it though |
| 11:34.02 | shadowcat | it should be good enough |
| 11:34.08 | shadowcat | bykte: install the deb |
| 11:34.13 | bykte | ok |
| 11:34.18 | shadowcat | I doubt you're skilled enough to compile mysql from scratch |
| 11:34.26 | bykte | erm yes, i dont think so |
| 11:35.02 | linuxfreck | but note that the sarge version is 4.0.24, so the new and buggy 4.1 "features" will not work |
| 11:35.16 | shadowcat | linuxfreck: unstable! |
| 11:35.20 | dondelelcaro | linuxfreck: so? get a backport of 4.1 if you want those features. |
| 11:35.23 | bykte | i not using sarge.. |
| 11:35.33 | linuxfreck | dpkg: info mysql-server sid |
| 11:35.38 | dpkg | mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10 (sid), Packaged size: 3559 kB, Installed size: 8604 kB |
| 11:35.47 | linuxfreck | sid doesn't have it, too |
| 11:35.50 | shadowcat | I'm about to pull in xserver-xorg on a test box |
| 11:35.59 | shadowcat | linuxfreck: experimental! |
| 11:36.20 | linuxfreck | shadowcat: I don't think we should recommend experimental packages to bykte |
| 11:36.26 | paulswm | No shit. |
| 11:36.30 | shadowcat | linuxfreck: true |
| 11:36.36 | shadowcat | but if he *does* want a deb |
| 11:36.37 | dondelelcaro | !info mysql-server-4.1 |
| 11:36.41 | dondelelcaro | !info mysql-server-4.1 sarge |
| 11:36.42 | dpkg | mysql-server-4.1: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1 (sid), Packaged size: 14669 kB, Installed size: 31204 kB |
| 11:36.43 | shadowcat | it'll probably be there |
| 11:36.45 | dpkg | mysql-server-4.1: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.11a-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 14214 kB, Installed size: 30420 kB |
| 11:36.49 | shadowcat | hmm.... |
| 11:36.51 | dondelelcaro | linuxfreck: ^^^ |
| 11:36.57 | linuxfreck | great :) |
| 11:37.06 | shadowcat | !info xserver-xorg |
| 11:37.08 | paulswm | dondelelcaro saves the day |
| 11:37.13 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 5523 kB, Installed size: 15540 kB |
| 11:37.17 | dondelelcaro | !tell linuxfreck -about search |
| 11:37.17 | linuxfreck | so they even changed the package name cause the 4.1 version is so wierd :) |
| 11:37.17 | bykte | ok.. |
| 11:37.31 | nicknicknick | is there a way to download or install php4 src files on sarge? |
| 11:37.36 | shadowcat | !info openoffice.org2 |
| 11:37.45 | dondelelcaro | you can /msg the bot, people... |
| 11:37.48 | shadowcat | dpkg Package 'openoffice.org2' does not exist. |
| 11:37.57 | dondelelcaro | nicknicknick: apt-get source php4 |
| 11:38.01 | linuxfreck | dondelelcaro: thanks, I new that, I just didn't realize that they changed the package name |
| 11:38.02 | nicknicknick | thanks |
| 11:38.03 | shadowcat | guess it doesn't check the experimental tree |
| 11:38.08 | TBBle | You mean the _source_ of php4? Or php4 source files? |
| 11:38.23 | dondelelcaro | shadowcat: it will if you ask it to. |
| 11:38.40 | dondelelcaro | !info openoffice.org2 experimental |
| 11:38.42 | dpkg | openoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.114-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 180 kB |
| 11:38.49 | shadowcat | ah thanks |
| 11:38.57 | shadowcat | bah I need the deb you're running :P |
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| 11:39.07 | dondelelcaro | however, experimental is not supported here... |
| 11:39.07 | shadowcat | the blootbot I'm running can't check packages |
| 11:39.09 | bykte | ok, i installed it already.. erm where do i load the database? in windows the database is at C:\mysql\data\bins |
| 11:39.11 | bykte | how about linux? |
| 11:39.12 | shadowcat | :( |
| 11:39.16 | rixth | Is there anyway in xchat (or any other client) to auto accept DCC files? |
| 11:39.26 | shadowcat | dondelelcaro: heh neither is unstable |
| 11:39.29 | dondelelcaro | rixth: yes, but you generally don't wnat to do that |
| 11:39.34 | shadowcat | but most of us run stuff off unstable anyway |
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| 11:39.41 | TBBle | bykte: /var/lib/mysql/ from memory. |
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| 11:40.16 | rixth | dondelelcaro, yeah, but I'm in a certain channel which has a queue system and I wont be up to accept it. I'd just review wht I got in the mrning and remove the badies. |
| 11:40.18 | dondelelcaro | rixth: FE, see dcc_autoget_masks in irssi |
| 11:40.24 | bykte | ok |
| 11:40.44 | rixth | Thanks |
| 11:41.15 | tarzeau | nvz: she's like dying (from the film) |
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| 11:41.38 | bykte | does mysql use compression? |
| 11:41.50 | bykte | my data is about 3mbit but the folder doesnt look like 3mbit |
| 11:41.55 | dondelelcaro | bykte: #mysql is -> that way |
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| 11:42.08 | bykte | ok |
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| 11:43.47 | rixth | dondelelcaro, ah, it's in the "IRC" menu in xchat |
| 11:44.32 | shadowcat | with the sharp ends pointing UP |
| 11:44.48 | tarzeau | and i ain't no masochist |
| 11:45.10 | rixth | shadowcat, even facing down would hurt! |
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| 11:46.02 | shadowcat | rixth: hehe |
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| 11:59.55 | tombs | hi ppl |
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| 12:02.32 | bykte | hrm.. |
| 12:02.42 | bykte | does inflating files take a long time? |
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| 12:03.36 | mike-m | gz is fast, bz2 is slow (does this answer your question?) |
| 12:03.44 | bykte | ok damn bz2.. |
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| 12:04.13 | nforbes | bz2 is smaller than gzip |
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| 12:04.51 | dylan_ | where do i find libmp3lame.so? Audacity cannot export to mp3 without it |
| 12:05.11 | bykte | isnt that the lame mp3 encoder? |
| 12:06.17 | dylan_ | yes |
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| 12:06.34 | concept10 | dylan_, install liblame0 and lame |
| 12:06.40 | dylan_ | thanks |
| 12:07.16 | dylan_ | still wont export to mp3 |
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| 12:07.30 | concept10 | did you install them? |
| 12:07.34 | dylan_ | yes |
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| 12:07.55 | Roman | Is it possible to get apt-get to tell me what version of a specific package is installed? |
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| 12:08.18 | ircdevil | what is an aural browser? |
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| 12:08.27 | ircdevil | !dict aural |
| 12:08.30 | dpkg | Dictionary 'aural' Aural \Au"ral\, a. [L. aura air.] Of or pertaining to the air, or to an aura. |
| 12:08.30 | cahoot | hearing aid |
| 12:08.39 | ircdevil | ? |
| 12:08.44 | Roman | ircdevil: a web browser that speaks to you? |
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| 12:09.02 | cahoot | Roman: or listens to you? |
| 12:09.04 | bykte | isnt that suppose to be oral? |
| 12:09.21 | Roman | oral would be spoken, aural would relate to hearing |
| 12:09.37 | ircdevil | Roman: ah |
| 12:09.37 | mike-m | !dict dpkg |
| 12:09.38 | dpkg | could not find definition for dpkg |
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| 12:10.16 | btwotch | . |
| 12:10.25 | Roman | I have a package installed using apt-get, I need to find out what version of this package is currently installed, does anyone know how I can do this? |
| 12:10.28 | bykte | !dict harry potter |
| 12:10.29 | dpkg | could not find definition for harry potter |
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| 12:12.31 | Isumi | Roman, dpkg -l |
| 12:12.52 | Roman | thanks |
| 12:13.09 | Eulex | dpkg -s works too |
| 12:13.11 | dpkg | You Fool! works too is installed! |
| 12:13.31 | niclas5 | how can i make cron NOT send mails anymore? i read the manpage, and it says, cron sends mail to root or whoever is set in the MAILTO-variable in the crontab, but i don't have that set. |
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| 12:14.29 | chocoIate | hi |
| 12:14.58 | rixth | Is there a tool to edit PDF files? |
| 12:15.03 | rikva | niclas5: do you use logcheck perhaps? |
| 12:15.15 | teprrr | rixth, kword can import pdf files, but don't know how well |
| 12:15.30 | niclas5 | rikva: no |
| 12:15.34 | Roman | How can I get apt-get to remove a package for me, but not to touch the dependancies? I want to remove svgalib and recompile my own version, but I do not want apt-get to remove kde. |
| 12:16.17 | rixth | Hmm, I want to be able to save it back. I have a 1083 page eBook, and instead of a " it has an e with a ` ontop of it. I want to replace e` with " in the whole documnet then save back to PDF |
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| 12:16.51 | nicknicknick | is it possible to use MPM prefork and worker at the same time with apache2 on sarge? |
| 12:17.40 | sanxiyn | nicknicknick: No. |
| 12:18.05 | sanxiyn | (apache2-mpm-* conflicts with each other, as they should.) |
| 12:18.18 | rikva | niclas5: what files are in /etc/cron.d/ |
| 12:19.31 | niclas5 | rikva: awstats mailman php4 |
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| 12:19.52 | niclas5 | rikva: the man page says, it is cron ITSELF sending the mail. i will try to set MAILTO="" in crontab |
| 12:19.59 | chocoIate | i'm trying to build this uniqueidentifier-0.2.tar.gz download located here -->> http://gborg.postgresql.org/project/uniqueidentifier/download/download.php ; its a custom datatype for postgresql. I have downloaded the postgresql 7.4.7 sources and as stated by the readme i copied the contents of my download in my postgresql sources "contrib" directory. However it wont build and errors as follows -->> http://pastebot.nd.edu/1810 |
| 12:20.30 | nicknicknick | sanxiyn how come that they both are listed in the apache2.conf with IfModule? |
| 12:20.42 | sanxiyn | nicknicknick: What's the problem? |
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| 12:20.58 | chocoIate | in effect the first file its pointing to is not even there. I only see a Makefile.global.in not a Makefile.global file |
| 12:21.01 | sanxiyn | (apache2.conf is from apache2-common, not from any particular MPM.) |
| 12:21.05 | nicknicknick | well not much I was just being curious why they are there and how do I find out which of the two I'm using. |
| 12:21.06 | Nick0r | hi guys, for some reason, all my logs, /var/log/syslog, daemon.log etc are empty and I've got no idea why |
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| 12:21.23 | sanxiyn | nicknicknick: apache2.conf is not from MPM packages. |
| 12:21.30 | rikva | niclas5: I know what you mean, now i think of it i also get mails from crontab though i never read them. I have no idea how to turn this off. |
| 12:21.54 | sanxiyn | niclas5: You may want to add >/dev/null to your crontab if it produces some output. |
| 12:22.04 | sanxiyn | niclas5: Or, appending to some kind of log. |
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| 12:22.23 | nicknicknick | sanxiyn: http://pastebin.com/314922 |
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| 12:22.42 | sanxiyn | nicknicknick: And? |
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| 12:22.58 | Nick0r | anyone? |
| 12:23.01 | eBug | can ayone explain why i can't compile ? |
| 12:23.07 | eBug | atto:~[0]# cc |
| 12:23.07 | eBug | cc: No such file or directory |
| 12:23.07 | eBug | atto:~[0]# which cc |
| 12:23.07 | eBug | atto:~[0]# ls -l /usr/local/bin/cc |
| 12:23.07 | eBug | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 15 2005-07-16 05:16 /usr/local/bin/cc -> /usr/bin/ccache |
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| 12:23.11 | bykte | lol |
| 12:23.14 | niclas5 | rikva: man -s 5 crontab says, you have to set MAILTO="" :-) |
| 12:23.31 | nicknicknick | sanxiyn well that's clear now. It's only "If" one of the twp modules are available. But how do I know which of the two is being used? |
| 12:24.00 | eBug | atto:~[0]# cc |
| 12:24.03 | sanxiyn | nicknicknick: dpkg -l apache2-mpm-* ? (for example) |
| 12:24.06 | eBug | cc: No such file or directory |
| 12:24.06 | niclas5 | rikva: uh, waitaminute, -s is an illegal option... (got this from a friend) |
| 12:24.13 | eBug | atto:~[0]# which cc |
| 12:24.16 | sanxiyn | eBug: But there is /usr/local/bin/cc? |
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| 12:24.22 | eBug | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.29 | sanxiyn | eBug: Check your $PATH. |
| 12:24.30 | eBug | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 15 2005-07-16 05:16 /usr/local/bin/cc -> /usr/bin/ccache |
| 12:24.36 | coll | how can i set a user to be expired? |
| 12:24.42 | coll | intentionally |
| 12:24.57 | nicknicknick | sanxiyn: http://pastebin.com/314923 |
| 12:24.58 | Nick0r | hi guys, for some reason, all my logs, /var/log/syslog, daemon.log etc are empty and I've got no idea why |
| 12:24.59 | eBug | sanxiyn which cc gives /usr/local/bin/cc |
| 12:25.11 | nicknicknick | prefork |
| 12:25.18 | sanxiyn | eBug: Perhaps which is misbehaving. |
| 12:25.29 | sanxiyn | nicknicknick: And? |
| 12:25.49 | eBug | sanxiyn which misbehaving ? |
| 12:26.09 | nforbes | eBug, Have you installed gcc? |
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| 12:26.22 | niclas5 | rikva: man crontab was supposed to say so, but it does only in netBSD: :-( |
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| 12:26.33 | sanxiyn | eBug: If which cc prints something, you should be able to run cc, not getting "cc: No such file or directory", no? |
| 12:26.54 | nforbes | When I do cc -v, I get "gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)" |
| 12:27.11 | eBug | sanxiyn atto:~[0]# /usr/local/bin/cc |
| 12:27.11 | eBug | cc: No such file or directory |
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| 12:27.15 | nforbes | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2005-06-14 23:55 /usr/bin/cc -> /etc/alternatives/cc |
| 12:27.20 | sanxiyn | eBug: Ah, okay. |
| 12:27.20 | eBug | atto:~[0]# ls -l /usr/local/bin/cc |
| 12:27.20 | eBug | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 15 2005-07-16 05:16 /usr/local/bin/cc -> /usr/bin/ccache |
| 12:27.34 | sanxiyn | eBug: And you don't have /usr/bin/ccache, no? |
| 12:27.36 | eBug | atto:~[0]# /usr/bin/ccache |
| 12:27.36 | eBug | ccache, a compiler cache. Version 2.4 |
| 12:27.56 | nforbes | eBug, Have you installed gcc? |
| 12:28.06 | eBug | yes |
| 12:28.13 | nforbes | So you can do gcc -v |
| 12:28.16 | nforbes | And you get output? |
| 12:28.26 | eBug | atto:~[0]# gcc -v |
| 12:28.26 | eBug | Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/specs |
| 12:28.27 | eBug | ... |
| 12:28.35 | nforbes | mmk |
| 12:29.02 | nforbes | eBug, do ls -al /etc/alternatives/cc |
| 12:29.09 | nforbes | Well, ls -l rather |
| 12:29.17 | sanxiyn | nforbes: As he already showed, his cc is from /usr/local and it points to ccache. |
| 12:29.25 | sanxiyn | nforbes: So no alternatives involved. |
| 12:29.41 | nforbes | sanxiyn, Having it in /usr/local seems odd |
| 12:30.03 | eBug | nforbes the idea is to override cc by ccache |
| 12:30.18 | nforbes | eBug, Oh |
| 12:30.19 | nforbes | I see |
| 12:30.21 | rixth | http://www.thomasrix.org/xchat.png << Any idea how I can stop DCC chats appearing IN a channel, I'm unable to reply, |
| 12:30.26 | nforbes | And you can run ccache fine, right? |
| 12:30.27 | rixth | TO chats people start |
| 12:30.38 | eBug | nforbes yep |
| 12:30.48 | nforbes | eBug, try logging out of your shell and then logging back in |
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| 12:31.10 | nforbes | I know FreeBSD has a thing where it doesn't immediately recognize new binaries |
| 12:31.21 | nforbes | I'm not sure if that applies to Linux too |
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| 12:34.53 | chocoIate | what does a successful make look like |
| 12:34.57 | ralf | what's better between RSA and DSA to generate a gpg key? |
| 12:35.01 | chocoIate | i just ran the make and it turned up with 1 error |
| 12:35.14 | chocoIate | should i proceed with issuing "make install" ? |
| 12:35.21 | asg | chocoIate: no, fix the error |
| 12:35.31 | asg | ralf: ask #crypto |
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| 12:35.34 | chocoIate | well, i cant. I didnt write the app |
| 12:35.37 | tarzeau | chocoIate: what are you compiling? |
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| 12:35.45 | chocoIate | a custom datatype for postgresql |
| 12:35.49 | sanxiyn | ralf: I think RSA is default, and it is fine. |
| 12:35.56 | tarzeau | rixth: tried with /msg nick msg? |
| 12:36.03 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: Ask the author. |
| 12:36.04 | xoz | ralf: dsa |
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| 12:36.25 | rixth | tarzeau, yeah, but thats a message, those were DCC Chats |
| 12:36.27 | mike-m | [-oskar-], re :) |
| 12:36.31 | Eulex | chocoIate, usually the problem ain't the program itself, but the person that compiles it. most usually you haven't got the needed dependencies installed |
| 12:36.38 | chocoIate | http://pastebot.nd.edu/1811 <-- this is the result of the make |
| 12:36.47 | tarzeau | rixth: try /dcc then? |
| 12:36.59 | rixth | tarzeau, good idea |
| 12:37.04 | mike-m | install a something-dev |
| 12:37.21 | chocoIate | well, it didnt error with anything missing :S |
| 12:37.26 | asg | chocoIate: install build-essential first |
| 12:37.37 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: "uniqueidentifier.c:21:23: uuid/uuid.h: No such file or directory" |
| 12:37.39 | Eulex | chocoIate, it doesn't find uuid.h, that's the cause of your errors |
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| 12:37.54 | tarzeau | chocoIate: it didn't find a header file |
| 12:37.56 | ralf | xoz: why dsa? more robust? |
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| 12:38.03 | rixth | tarzeau, nope |
| 12:38.09 | xoz | ralf: more secure |
| 12:38.18 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: Header is from uuid-dev. |
| 12:38.19 | ralf | slower then? |
| 12:38.26 | sanxiyn | ralf: Yes, slower. |
| 12:38.34 | ralf | good |
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| 12:38.38 | chocoIate | well, those are the only files i have from the package i downloaded |
| 12:38.39 | sanxiyn | ralf: And it's not really like NSA is trying to hack you. |
| 12:38.41 | xoz | tradeoff between security and speed |
| 12:38.48 | chocoIate | there is no uuid.h |
| 12:38.50 | Eulex | chocoIate, install the package uuid-dev? |
| 12:38.52 | asg | chocoIate: then install uuid-dev |
| 12:38.54 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: Install it. |
| 12:38.58 | chocoIate | ok |
| 12:39.11 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: Or, if your download comes with README or INSTALL, read it first. |
| 12:39.12 | ralf | a 2048 key should be enough |
| 12:39.50 | xoz | !2^2028 |
| 12:39.50 | dpkg | 2030 |
| 12:39.59 | sanxiyn | !2**2028 |
| 12:39.59 | dpkg | inf |
| 12:40.03 | sanxiyn | oh. |
| 12:40.03 | xoz | heh |
| 12:40.09 | sanxiyn | 2**20 |
| 12:40.11 | sanxiyn | !2**20 |
| 12:40.11 | dpkg | 1048576 |
| 12:40.13 | chocoIate | i did read the readme, theres no info, just state that i must run the make and make install commands |
| 12:40.15 | chocoIate | is all |
| 12:40.24 | Web-kanotix109 | |seen etorix |
| 12:40.27 | nicknicknick | Hi I'm getting lots of these lately: 5353 www-data 17 0 0 0 0 Z 0.7 0.0 0:00.71 apache2 <defunct> |
| 12:40.31 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: Okay, then instruction is misleading. :-) |
| 12:40.46 | asg | nicknicknick: start lookin in /var/log/apache2/error* |
| 12:41.12 | Web-kanotix109 | !seen etorix |
| 12:41.25 | dpkg | etorix <~etorix@usr1614-har.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 5d 20h 30m 17s ago, saying: 'e'. |
| 12:41.41 | chocoIate | yes, i guess the author thought it was the obvious and never included, or possibly had those dev packages already installed on their machine and overlooked :S |
| 12:41.44 | chocoIate | anyway, now i get : |
| 12:42.09 | Web-kanotix109 | !stockquote teu |
| 12:42.21 | chocoIate | http://pastebot.nd.edu/1812 |
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| 12:42.31 | chocoIate | this is after installing uuid-dev package |
| 12:42.35 | Esotericisms | question |
| 12:42.47 | Web-kanotix109 | not working well.... |
| 12:42.58 | nicknicknick | asg Hi I allready did that but haven't found anything suspicious: http://pastebin.com/314929 |
| 12:42.58 | Esotericisms | what exactly do I need to do to get kde install on my system when I didn't install it to begin with? |
| 12:42.58 | chocoIate | does that look like a successful make :o |
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| 12:43.28 | Eulex | chocoIate, nope, doesn't seem like it -- you could try doing make clean and then make |
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| 12:43.52 | Eulex | Esotericisms, apt-get it? |
| 12:44.09 | chocoIate | Eulex, its the same output after a make clean |
| 12:44.12 | sanxiyn | !install kde |
| 12:44.12 | dpkg | i heard install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 12:44.25 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: It looks successful to me. |
| 12:44.44 | sanxiyn | chocoIate: You have uniqueidentifier.so? |
| 12:44.45 | nforbes | sanxiyn, Except for the linker error |
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| 12:45.09 | sanxiyn | nforbes: No, it seems linking is done anyway. |
| 12:45.20 | nforbes | oh... so it is |
| 12:45.26 | Eulex | I've never seen something like "gcc: -luuid: linker input file unused because linking not done" before |
| 12:45.36 | nforbes | sanxiyn, Did you see the line above it? |
| 12:45.40 | nforbes | There's two lines on one line |
| 12:45.47 | nforbes | the make and then there's a gcc command right next to it |
| 12:46.17 | sanxiyn | nforbes: Yes. It seems the author was lazy or somehow mistaken, but build looks successful. |
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| 12:47.01 | tarzeau | is denmark/copenhagen far away from helsinki/finland? |
| 12:47.11 | Esotericisms | ok I guess some time ago I installed KDE ... this is the error I get now .... http://pastebin.ca/17905 |
| 12:47.42 | tarzeau | Esotericisms: you switched from 2.4 to 2.6 kernel or so? |
| 12:48.24 | Esotericisms | no I actually think I am running 2.2.20 (I should upgrade :/) |
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| 12:48.38 | Nick0r | hi guys, for some reason, all my logs, /var/log/syslog, daemon.log etc are empty and I've got no idea why |
| 12:48.39 | chocoman | sorry, got d/c. Yes, possibly its a success coz i just ran the make install and it seems to have gone through like a charm :) |
| 12:48.42 | Eulex | tarzeau, quite far away from each other -- I'd guess at least 800 km |
| 12:48.43 | chocoman | thanks everybody |
| 12:49.05 | tarzeau | Eulex: ouf, yeah that's pretty much |
| 12:49.25 | Eulex | tarzeau, probably even more than that |
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| 12:51.53 | Eulex | tarzeau, I was pretty near, 883 km according to geobytes |
| 12:52.25 | possie | i copied my filesystem to another harddisk, a larger one, now lilo doesn't want to boot, it only shows "LI" nothing more, which indicated that the disk geometry is wrong, seems plausible since i have a larger disk, how do i make lilo reread the disk geometry when writing boot information to mbr? |
| 12:52.41 | Guerin | !li |
| 12:52.41 | dpkg | if 'LI' is printed when the system is booted, it means that your drive is probably too large (OR you simply forgot to run 'lilo'). There is a Large-disk-mini-howto. Read it.. Boot the rescue disk, edit lilo.conf and add 'lba32' then try again., or (if drive geometry has changed) try booting from the rescue disk, mounting /, and rerunning lilo. Or you could try grub instead. :) Lithium, or Liechtenstein. |
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| 12:54.33 | wintix | i have an broadcom bcm5788 ethernet card in my laptop and it promts me for a firmware. does anyone know where to get the firmware? |
| 12:55.04 | leikh | how do i find the device that corresponds to my cdrom (/dev/*). try and fail has not been a success... |
| 12:56.10 | wintix | leikh: try /dev/cdrom ? |
| 12:56.13 | tarzeau | Eulex: thank you |
| 12:56.21 | Eulex | leikh, /dev/hdc, /dev/cdrom, /dev/scd0 etc -- but if you do not find your cd in there, it's likely that it's not detected at all, so have you checked your dmesg? |
| 12:56.31 | xoz | leikh: hwinfo |
| 12:56.41 | tarzeau | leikh: 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? scsi or ide? |
| 12:56.54 | kadigibox | I am having a problem. I cannot mount my DVD drive anymore. it was working before but now cannot mount anything at all now |
| 12:56.55 | Eulex | wintix, what driver do you use? |
| 12:57.27 | tschwinge | Hi! |
| 12:57.31 | tschwinge | I wanted to share apt's cache between multiple (two at the moment) machines and just made /var/cache/apt/archives, /var/lib/apt/lists and /etc/apt/sources.list symlinks to a hierarchy that is mounted from a server using NFS. |
| 12:57.36 | Eulex | kadigibox, done anything special since you had it working? |
| 12:57.44 | Nick0r | guys, for some reason my email isn't being delivered to my inbox.... I know it's receiving it as I'm not getting any failure notices.. and all the configs look ok, but all my log files are empty |
| 12:57.44 | Nick0r | ;s |
| 12:58.05 | tschwinge | This worked on one machine, but fails on the other like this: E: Couldn't determine free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/ - statvfs (1073741939 Value too large for defined data type) |
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| 12:58.23 | xoz | Nick0r: are you using .procmailrc? |
| 12:58.37 | Nick0r | no :o |
| 12:58.47 | kadigibox | last thing I done was play a DVD that I burned with my DVD/VCR with VLC and thats the last thing to work |
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| 12:59.01 | gioeleb | hi |
| 12:59.15 | Eulex | kadigibox, did this happen after a reboot? |
| 12:59.26 | kadigibox | I havent rebooted yet |
| 12:59.31 | Nick0r | any ideas xoz? |
| 12:59.33 | xoz | kadigibox: reboot |
| 12:59.41 | xoz | Nick0r: alias to another user? |
| 12:59.41 | leikh | xoz: hwinfo was not helpful. |
| 12:59.47 | gioeleb | is there a console tool to select which script launch on a certain runlevel? |
| 12:59.51 | kadigibox | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.57 | gioeleb | console = ncourses |
| 13:00.04 | dont-panic | leikh: eject /dev/hdc ? |
| 13:00.16 | Nick0r | xoz.... in /var/qmail/alias .qmail-nick says &nick and then in /home/nick there is a .qmail file saying ./Maildir |
| 13:00.19 | Nick0r | so it *should* work |
| 13:00.35 | Eulex | leikh, have you checked your dmesg? |
| 13:00.38 | dont-panic | leikh: or just eject |
| 13:00.44 | leikh | dont-panic: excellent :-) |
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| 13:01.05 | dont-panic | leikh: ln -s /dev/hdwhatever /dev/cdrom ;) |
| 13:01.29 | Nick0r | woops. |
| 13:01.36 | xoz | Nick0r: try not using alias to check if it works |
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| 13:01.48 | Nick0r | xoz, eh? |
| 13:01.55 | Eulex | leikh, eject -v will show lots of yummy info |
| 13:01.59 | kadigibox | I will try rebooting as soon as I have a free time between FTPing |
| 13:02.02 | Nick0r | how would that work...? |
| 13:03.10 | xoz | Nick0r: or time to use exim :0 |
| 13:04.33 | Nick0r | xoz... its been working perfectly for ages |
| 13:04.36 | Nick0r | i just messed it up today i think |
| 13:04.41 | Nick0r | but what do you mean by not using alias? |
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| 13:04.49 | Guerin | that's qmail for you |
| 13:05.10 | Nick0r | well Im happy with it |
| 13:05.14 | Nick0r | i just messed something |
| 13:05.16 | Nick0r | if the logs were working |
| 13:05.18 | xoz | Nick0r: sid or sarge? |
| 13:05.33 | Nick0r | testing |
| 13:05.35 | Nick0r | but i think errr |
| 13:05.42 | Nick0r | it was compiled from source |
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| 13:05.56 | xoz | oh well |
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| 13:06.03 | asg | Nick0r: are the messages still in the queue? what does qmail-qread and qmail-qstat say? |
| 13:06.14 | Nick0r | they aren't in to the queue no |
| 13:06.28 | Nick0r | 2and2:/home/nick# qmail-qstat |
| 13:06.28 | Nick0r | messages in queue: 43 |
| 13:06.29 | Nick0r | messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 39 |
| 13:06.35 | Nick0r | there appears to be the problem |
| 13:06.50 | bykte | why would u want to queue emails? |
| 13:07.06 | asg | Nick0r: check that your .qmail is not world writable and that the +t flag hasn't been set on it. |
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| 13:07.47 | franz | Hi all, I have installed debian testing on a laptop, I have compiled a new kernel and now, at startup, klogd is using 100% of my cpu. Does anybody know what could be the reason of this? |
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| 13:08.21 | franz | I have no messages when using dmesg btw. Is it related? |
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| 13:08.30 | PerfDave | franz: Because you compiled your own kernel, and cocked something up? ;) |
| 13:08.34 | Guerin | franz: why did you build your own kernel? |
| 13:08.43 | PerfDave | franz: Why and how did you compile your own kernel? |
| 13:08.45 | kadigibox | actualy on running ps aux I find there is 2 sh that are defunct. Is there a chance that is why my CD drive isnt working? Also how do I shut them down and the parent that is causeing them to be defunctd |
| 13:09.03 | Eulex | franz, nothing at all in the dmesg? |
| 13:09.13 | xoz | kadigibox: lsof /dev/<cdrom> |
| 13:09.25 | xoz | kadigibox: kill progs accessing it |
| 13:09.34 | xoz | kadigibox: lsof |grep /dev/<cdrom> |
| 13:09.36 | franz | PerfDave, well I have been using the same .config with another kernel and no problem at all. I must have screwed something up, but I would like to know what ;-) |
| 13:09.49 | franz | Eulex, nothing in dmesg no.. |
| 13:09.54 | xoz | franz: did you use make oldconfig? |
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| 13:10.03 | franz | xoz, yes I did.. |
| 13:10.15 | dont-panic | franz: what errors ? |
| 13:10.17 | PerfDave | franz: How did you compile the kerenel, and from what source? And why did you bother in the first place? |
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| 13:10.26 | Nick0r | asg... it hasn't... which .qmail though, the one in /home/nick ? |
| 13:10.47 | franz | PerfDave, Guerin, cause I need some non-free module (ipw22200) and because I have been able to get it to work perfectly until now.. |
| 13:10.53 | tarzeau | !pulpfiction |
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| 13:11.02 | xoz | franz: check the logs /var/log/daemon... /var/log/syslog ... etc for clues |
| 13:11.14 | franz | xoz, k |
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| 13:11.18 | franz | PerfDave, with make-kpkg |
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| 13:11.22 | PerfDave | franz: There's no need to compile your own kernel to get ipw2200 to work :) |
| 13:11.27 | Eulex | franz, that thing will work perfectly without a kernel recompile |
| 13:11.31 | franz | PerfDave, I know ;-) |
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| 13:12.02 | PerfDave | franz: Right, so you're going out of your way to make life harder for yourself, and you've broken something. I'm not inclined to offer assistance on this one, sorry. |
| 13:12.27 | Eulex | franz, why don't you ask us about the problem you had with ipw2200 on the stock kernel instead? |
| 13:12.28 | kadigibox | um ok... there is nothing accessing the cdrom cause I can open and close my cdrom drive. my problem was not being able to access CDs and my recent question was about the "sh" that was defunct |
| 13:12.38 | TBBle | ipw2200 is non-free? |
| 13:12.40 | franz | PerfDave, well you could also have said that you have no clues but I get your point and I agree |
| 13:12.55 | Nick0r | asg, none of them have +t or 007 |
| 13:13.03 | asg | Nick0r: is qmail-send still running? |
| 13:13.13 | Nick0r | qmails 22874 0.0 0.0 1516 172 ? S Jun04 9:14 [qmail-send] |
| 13:13.17 | xoz | kadigibox: can't kill it or flush it in the toilet? |
| 13:13.27 | PerfDave | franz: If I had no clue, I would have said so ;) |
| 13:13.30 | kadigibox | cant kill -9 it |
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| 13:13.40 | Nick0r | so yes, it is asg |
| 13:13.41 | sanxiyn | !info ipw2200-source |
| 13:13.43 | dpkg | ipw2200-source: (Source for the ipw2200 driver), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.4-1 (sid), Packaged size: 147 kB, Installed size: 196 kB |
| 13:13.47 | tarzeau | nvz: you don't know by chance the name of the soundtrack where there's the 4 robbers (at the very end) of pulp fiction? |
| 13:13.48 | sanxiyn | It is contrib. |
| 13:13.59 | asg | Nick0r: and also qmail-lspawn? |
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| 13:14.07 | Nick0r | root 22877 0.0 0.0 1484 156 ? S Jun04 0:12 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/ |
| 13:14.28 | franz | sanxiyn, I know but I also wanted to have bootsplash.. |
| 13:14.35 | franz | anyway thanks for you help |
| 13:14.41 | franz | *your |
| 13:15.13 | asg | Nick0r: hmmm, since that's the default delivery, there should be no reason for you to use either ~/.qmail or the alias user. |
| 13:15.20 | Nick0r | ok |
| 13:15.33 | systemadmin | hi all, question, i want to access a computer inside my house, i have a cable modem hooked to my linux box, and i want to vnc to a windows box inside my network, any ideas about this? I have tried to use bind to do it, but its not working from the outside, can i redirect the vnc port to a ip on my network? |
| 13:15.53 | Nick0r | so delete /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-nick ? |
| 13:16.07 | Nick0r | ~/.qmail is deleteed |
| 13:16.07 | apt | Nick0r: okay |
| 13:16.16 | Eulex | systemadmin, forward whatever port vnc uses in the router |
| 13:16.17 | asg | ~forget /.qmail |
| 13:16.17 | apt | asg: i forgot /.qmail |
| 13:16.27 | systemadmin | no router |
| 13:16.30 | systemadmin | linux box |
| 13:16.31 | PerfDave | systemadmin: Yes, you can. But you're better off tunnelling VNC over SSH. |
| 13:16.45 | Nick0r | so errr.... now what? |
| 13:16.45 | asg | Nick0r: the alias shouldn't ever get hit since you have a local user mailstore anyway. You can delete it. |
| 13:16.50 | PerfDave | systemadmin: Can you access your Linux box from outside your house? |
| 13:17.01 | systemadmin | yup |
| 13:17.06 | systemadmin | through no-ip.info |
| 13:17.10 | kadigibox | OK this is messed up. my DVD drive will only read DVDs and not CDs |
| 13:17.10 | PerfDave | systemadmin: With SSH? |
| 13:17.16 | Nick0r | done, and tested again, still not getting it asg |
| 13:17.21 | systemadmin | yup |
| 13:17.26 | asg | Nick0r: did you restart qmail fully? |
| 13:17.30 | Nick0r | no |
| 13:17.30 | Nick0r | sec |
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| 13:17.41 | Nick0r | doing it now.. it takes aggess :) |
| 13:18.07 | PerfDave | systemadmin: OK, so SSH to your Linux box, forward a port to the VNC port on your Windows box with SSH, connect your VNC software to the port on localhost. |
| 13:18.09 | xoz | Nick0r: have you checked bts? if you haven't touched your config, it might be a bug from upgrade? |
| 13:18.24 | Nick0r | i never upgraded it |
| 13:18.36 | systemadmin | ok, how do i port forward? new at this |
| 13:18.41 | xoz | Nick0r: so you just played with the config? |
| 13:18.41 | systemadmin | sorry to have to ask |
| 13:18.48 | DoppelGanger | man ssh |
| 13:18.56 | Nick0r | I went to install qmail-autoresponder, which involved playing with .qmail files yes |
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| 13:19.03 | PerfDave | systemadmin: What SSH client are you using at the source end? |
| 13:19.05 | Nick0r | unless qmail-autoresponder broke it!? |
| 13:19.12 | Nick0r | did a make install of that |
| 13:19.14 | PerfDave | systemadmin: As in, what are you using to connect to your Linux box with? |
| 13:19.20 | systemadmin | sshd |
| 13:19.27 | PerfDave | systemadmin: No, at the other end. |
| 13:19.39 | xoz | Nick0r: then backtrack. retrace your steps :0 |
| 13:19.45 | Nick0r | did ;s |
| 13:19.58 | systemadmin | i am on laptop with debian now, going to debian box in my basement |
| 13:20.10 | Nick0r | well...errr... xoz, i can't "unmake" so.. |
| 13:20.18 | systemadmin | and i have xvnc on this laptop |
| 13:20.22 | PerfDave | systemadmin: OK, so you're using OpenSSH to connect from your laptop to your home network? |
| 13:20.22 | asg | Nick0r: one last possible thing before I give up and send you to #qmail (ls -l /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger) |
| 13:20.27 | systemadmin | up |
| 13:20.34 | systemadmin | yup |
| 13:20.40 | Eulex | Nick0r, undo the steps that make install did |
| 13:20.49 | PerfDave | systemadmin: And you're just running "ssh" at the command line to access your basement box? |
| 13:20.57 | Nick0r | 2and2:/home/nick# ls -l /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger |
| 13:20.57 | Nick0r | prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Jul 17 14:20 /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger |
| 13:21.09 | asg | Nick0r: that's fine |
| 13:21.16 | systemadmin | yup ssh username:pass@ip |
| 13:21.24 | systemadmin | i am in as root right now |
| 13:21.30 | systemadmin | well sudo root |
| 13:21.32 | xoz | Nick0r: remove autoresponder? |
| 13:21.44 | Nick0r | errr |
| 13:21.45 | Nick0r | how? |
| 13:21.53 | Nick0r | compiled it from source |
| 13:21.59 | PerfDave | systemadmin: username:pass@ip? That's not good. |
| 13:22.06 | systemadmin | huh? |
| 13:22.09 | Eulex | Nick0r, <Eulex> Nick0r, undo the steps that make install did |
| 13:22.22 | systemadmin | isnt ssh encrypted? |
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| 13:22.28 | xoz | Nick0r: common sense :0 |
| 13:22.32 | Nick0r | I wouldn't know how... |
| 13:22.36 | Nick0r | I can see makefile |
| 13:22.43 | Nick0r | but that doesn't touch anything related to "qmail" |
| 13:22.46 | xoz | Nick0r: make unistall |
| 13:22.54 | PerfDave | systemadmin: ssh shouldn't work if you pass the password on the command line, and even if it does, you shouldn't do it anyway because you're flashing your password at anyone who cares to read ps. |
| 13:23.13 | Nick0r | make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. |
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| 13:23.37 | systemadmin | sorry your rifht |
| 13:23.41 | systemadmin | i only do username |
| 13:23.47 | VerusMaya | question... I am attempting to upgrade device driver modules on a remote server with 2.6.11-1-686-smp kernel (intel nic 'e1000' module and 3ware raid '3w-9xxx' module). I have compiled them with matching headers and compiler versions and installed them in their rightful places in /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686-smp/... Now, I cannot simply remove the old e1000 module because my only form of connection with the server is via ssh... For t |
| 13:23.58 | Esotericisms | when I try to 'startx' I get this error 'Cannot open device /dev/input/mice' |
| 13:24.12 | xoz | Nick0r: reinstall qmail... |
| 13:24.18 | Nick0r | oh dear lord |
| 13:24.18 | PerfDave | Esotericisms: /msg dpkg /dev/input/mice |
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| 13:25.15 | PerfDave | systemadmin: OK, basically you want to read the ssh manpage. But you'll want something like: "ssh username@basementip -L localport:windowsip:vncport", and then connect xvnc to localhost:localport |
| 13:25.30 | xoz | Nick0r: autoresponder is the most likely culprit... so, retrace or start from a clean slate |
| 13:25.41 | Nick0r | hmm very interesting |
| 13:25.41 | Nick0r | install: fatal: unable to write .../bin/qmail-lspawn: text busy |
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| 13:26.28 | xoz | Nick0r: kill qmail.. lsof .. look for qmail related progs and kill them |
| 13:26.31 | systemadmin | humm |
| 13:26.33 | systemadmin | ok will try |
| 13:26.48 | kadigibox | ok is there any reason a DVD player on linux would only read DVDs and not CDs? |
| 13:26.50 | Guerin | kill qmail ... then uninstall it and install exim |
| 13:27.32 | PerfDave | kadigibox: I've not come across a DVD player that couldn't read CDs. You're not trying to mount an audio CD are you? |
| 13:27.42 | Nick0r | done xoz |
| 13:27.44 | Nick0r | then start again? |
| 13:27.57 | kadigibox | even unmounted playing of audio files I cannot do |
| 13:28.14 | kadigibox | VLC will play DVD video but cannot play CD Audio |
| 13:28.38 | Nick0r | WEEE |
| 13:28.40 | Nick0r | it was that simple... |
| 13:28.42 | Nick0r | thanks xoz |
| 13:28.43 | Nick0r | star ;] |
| 13:28.49 | Eulex | kadigibox, first try mounting a data cd |
| 13:28.53 | kadigibox | and cat /dev/hdc when there is a CD in gives I/O error and with a DVD gives alot of raw output |
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| 13:29.10 | kadigibox | I have tried mounting a data CD. no go |
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| 13:29.20 | TBBle | Firewall it off. |
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| 13:29.21 | TBBle | Ooops |
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| 13:29.40 | dont-panic | kadigibox: you're trying to mount an audio cd ? |
| 13:29.44 | Nick0r | nice one |
| 13:29.48 | Nick0r | now I need to install autoresponder |
| 13:29.51 | Nick0r | without it breaking |
| 13:29.55 | kadigibox | no I am not trying to mount an audio cd |
| 13:30.13 | dont-panic | kadigibox: what are you trying to do, exactly ? |
| 13:30.15 | Guerin | kadigibox: are you trying to mount an audio cd? |
| 13:30.16 | kadigibox | but mounting a data cd is not possible eather |
| 13:30.34 | mortum | hi |
| 13:30.36 | xoz | Nick0r: perhaps, autoresponder intercepts your messages. read the README and its documentation. |
| 13:30.53 | kadigibox | I am trying to play an audio CD without mounting |
| 13:31.04 | dont-panic | kadigibox: with what application ? |
| 13:31.22 | kadigibox | vlc and xmms. both wont play CDs |
| 13:31.32 | kadigibox | but even Data CDs I cannot mount |
| 13:31.38 | dont-panic | kadigibox: maybe permissions on that device are the issue ? |
| 13:31.43 | bykte | time to throw away the laptop |
| 13:31.49 | nforbes | I want it |
| 13:31.52 | Eulex | kadigibox, "won't plat cds" is not an accurate description |
| 13:31.52 | nforbes | Send it to me |
| 13:31.58 | Eulex | *play |
| 13:32.15 | kadigibox | Look CD was working and I have permissions for it |
| 13:32.30 | Nick0r | ok |
| 13:32.31 | kadigibox | even running on su I cannot access CDs |
| 13:32.33 | Guerin | if you guys would read the backscroll |
| 13:32.48 | Guerin | he tries to cat the device with a cd in and gets an I/O error |
| 13:32.49 | kadigibox | it wouldnt be permissions if on the same drive I can play DVDs and not CDs |
| 13:32.53 | dont-panic | kadigibox: ok, so put in a data cd, and mount as root - what errors do you get ? |
| 13:33.09 | Guerin | he doesn't get permission denied, or useless data, he gets an I/O error |
| 13:33.16 | xoz | kadigibox: modprobe ide-cd |
| 13:33.20 | Guerin | which says to me that there's a driver or a hardware problem |
| 13:33.28 | Guerin | xoz: that was my next suggestion :) |
| 13:33.40 | dont-panic | ewww, modules |
| 13:33.40 | xoz | kadigibox: you need a module driver for cd |
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| 13:33.57 | kadigibox | well the thing is it WAS working yesterday |
| 13:34.06 | xoz | Guerin: yep, i read your message and follow your logic :) |
| 13:34.08 | bykte | that was yesterday it is over.. |
| 13:34.54 | Guerin | i didn't have this wicked sunburn yesterday |
| 13:35.02 | kadigibox | /home/kadigibox# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt |
| 13:35.03 | kadigibox | mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 13:35.09 | kadigibox | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, |
| 13:35.09 | kadigibox | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.09 | kadigibox | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.09 | kadigibox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:35.16 | Eulex | hehe |
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| 13:35.23 | xoz | *lucky |
| 13:35.28 | Guerin | kadigibox: don't fucking paste |
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| 13:35.51 | kadigibox | I was told to give the errors |
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| 13:35.55 | kadigibox | so I did |
| 13:36.04 | Guerin | kadigibox: put them on a dammn httpd |
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| 13:36.17 | xoz | kadigibox: hwinfo sometimes suggest what module to load for your cd |
| 13:36.19 | Eulex | kadigibox, you don't give errors like that, you use paster |
| 13:36.22 | Guerin | kadigibox: anyway, tru probing that module xooz told you |
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| 13:36.49 | dont-panic | hehe |
| 13:36.59 | asg | Guerin: just blame it on bob2 syndrome |
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| 13:37.09 | kadigibox | nothing happens when I modprob ide-cd |
| 13:37.18 | Guerin | asg: what's bob2 syndrome, apart from the obvious |
| 13:37.21 | takatumi | kadigibox: that's a good sign. |
| 13:37.21 | xoz | kadigibox: lsmod | grep ide-cd |
| 13:37.26 | Guerin | kadigibox: try playing an audio cd again |
| 13:37.35 | asg | Guerin: he has notoriously bad spelling that gets worse the later it gets. |
| 13:37.35 | Guerin | kadigibox: or mounting a data cd |
| 13:37.41 | Guerin | asg: heh, i see. |
| 13:37.47 | kadigibox | same error |
| 13:37.48 | Guerin | asg: that's about me. |
| 13:37.56 | asg | Guerin: :) |
| 13:37.58 | Guerin | kadigibox: whate kernel? |
| 13:38.01 | Guerin | s/e// |
| 13:38.03 | kadigibox | 2.6 |
| 13:38.06 | Guerin | ok |
| 13:38.19 | kadigibox | 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 |
| 13:38.19 | Guerin | i predict something's wrong with hardware |
| 13:38.27 | Guerin | kadigibox: try booting a livecd |
| 13:38.31 | bob2 | hey, my spelling is perfectly cromulant |
| 13:38.31 | Eulex | kadigibox, maybe a reboot would help? |
| 13:38.36 | Guerin | kadigibox: or using the cd drive in another OS |
| 13:38.44 | asg | bob2: ;) |
| 13:38.52 | Guerin | bob2: preschisely |
| 13:38.53 | kadigibox | well I asked if it could be the 2 running processes that are defunc |
| 13:38.56 | dont-panic | Guerin: i like the livecd idea - DSL rox for testing such things |
| 13:39.09 | Eulex | !dict cromulant |
| 13:39.11 | kadigibox | I have 2 "sh" running that are defunc |
| 13:39.11 | dpkg | could not find definition for cromulant |
| 13:39.19 | Eulex | :( |
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| 13:39.22 | Guerin | kadigibox: well, sometimes you DO have to reboot when the kernel drops the guts |
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| 13:40.02 | kadigibox | ok I am trying to cover all bases for now cause I have at least a half an hour untell my FTP transfer is done |
| 13:40.12 | xoz | kadigibox: try init 1... kill that sh . then init 2 |
| 13:40.14 | concept10 | Is there a way to use my external USB drive to do some work for my laptop. For example, use it for swap? I want to ease the work performed by the internal HD |
| 13:40.29 | Guerin | concept10: WOFT |
| 13:40.51 | Guerin | concept10: why not just buy a new hdd for your laptop when it dies? |
| 13:40.56 | concept10 | WOFT? |
| 13:41.00 | Guerin | !woft |
| 13:41.00 | dpkg | it has been said that woft is Waste of Flipping Time |
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| 13:41.07 | concept10 | heh |
| 13:41.15 | ralf | Flipping? |
| 13:41.20 | TBBle | concept10: Swap would be a bad thing to put on an external drive, I think. A pulled cable and you're boned. Hard. |
| 13:41.31 | Guerin | ralf: they call him flipper, flipper, faster than liii-ghtning |
| 13:41.33 | asg | ralf: English colloquialism for fucking |
| 13:41.40 | concept10 | Guerin, that doesnt qualify as WOFT, the external drive is faster |
| 13:41.49 | Guerin | concept10: still a woft |
| 13:41.51 | xoz | !dict flip |
| 13:41.54 | dpkg | Dictionary 'flip' (4 of 11): 1. An early assembly language on the G-15. ;; ["FLIP, A Format List Processor", W. Teitelman, Memo MAC-M-263, MIT 1966]. ;; 3. Formal LIst Processor. ;; (1995-01-31). |
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| 13:42.04 | Eulex | heh |
| 13:42.07 | dont-panic | Guerin: whatsa 'woft' ? |
| 13:42.13 | Guerin | !woft |
| 13:42.13 | dpkg | somebody said woft was Waste of Fishing Time |
| 13:42.16 | egginmilk | 'woot'? |
| 13:42.21 | concept10 | TBBle, yeah, I though abut that |
| 13:42.22 | dont-panic | Guerin: niiiiice |
| 13:42.22 | egginmilk | Hey All |
| 13:42.32 | Guerin | and we all know that all time is time which could be better spent fishing |
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| 13:42.47 | asg | Guerin: s/fishing/drinking/ |
| 13:43.10 | nforbes | s/drinking/coding/ |
| 13:43.10 | Guerin | asg: why must they be exclusive? |
| 13:43.12 | nforbes | Shoot me. |
| 13:43.21 | egginmilk | ban ban |
| 13:43.24 | asg | Guerin: they don't have to be |
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| 13:43.31 | chocoman | when i run the following command ales4all@debian:/usr/local/pgsql/share/contrib$ psql mydatabase -f uniqueidentifier.sql to register my newly built plpgsql custom datatype i get this error -->> psql:uniqueidentifier.sql:16: ERROR: could not access file "$libdir/uniqueidentifier": No such file or directory |
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| 13:43.39 | Guerin | asg: no, sir, they most assuredly enhance one another |
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| 13:43.57 | asg | Guerin: indeed |
| 13:44.20 | takatumi | drop a lil in the water and even the fish will be merry. |
| 13:44.21 | kadigibox | haha.... thanks for makeing me restart my computer with init 1..... I said I was in a FTP transfer and now I have to start all over again |
| 13:44.24 | asg | chocoman: did you put the .so library in $libdir? |
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| 13:44.26 | chocoman | the file in question is probably here in this location -->> ales4all@debian:/usr/local/pgsql/share/lib |
| 13:44.28 | nforbes | Anyone know what's up with this? |
| 13:44.34 | nforbes | WARNING: Failed to parse default value `(??????-?,???????)' for schema (/schemas/apps/gnome-terminal/global/active_encodings) |
| 13:44.35 | chocoman | yeah, the .so file is in there asg |
| 13:44.42 | Guerin | takatumi: Waste Our Fishes Too |
| 13:44.53 | chocoman | the make install did all those steps and i have verified |
| 13:44.55 | Guerin | nforbes: something's fucked |
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| 13:45.06 | Eulex | Guerin, big time |
| 13:45.06 | nforbes | Guerin, Happened when I tried to install gnome-terminal-data |
| 13:45.15 | Guerin | nforbes: the bit obfuscated by the ??????-?,??????? would be my guess |
| 13:45.15 | takatumi | Guerin: wofty. |
| 13:45.27 | kadigibox | but oh well the CD drive mounts now |
| 13:45.31 | Guerin | nforbes: what distro? |
| 13:45.33 | asg | chocoman: I'd ask #postgresql. Of the 211 people in there, someone probably knows. |
| 13:45.37 | Guerin | kadigibox: oh, it does? |
| 13:45.39 | nforbes | Guerin, etch |
| 13:45.42 | chocoman | the only thing i can think of is a permissions issue however i cannot run as root, for some reason, i dont quite rem now but i was told to not add the root user to postgresql |
| 13:45.47 | Guerin | nforbes: BTSx0r! |
| 13:46.00 | kadigibox | well a reboot worked.... although I dont like the trickery that got me to reboot |
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| 13:46.04 | nforbes | huh? |
| 13:46.05 | nforbes | ^_^ |
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| 13:46.16 | Guerin | kadigibox: yeah, that ain't pretty. |
| 13:46.21 | egginmilk | ^_^ |
| 13:46.23 | Guerin | !tell nforbes about bts |
| 13:46.23 | chocoman | i will try in postgresql |
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| 13:46.36 | concept10 | Guerin, someone put a Investigators business card on my garage |
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| 13:46.41 | nforbes | Guerin, ah hah |
| 13:46.43 | nforbes | Will do |
| 13:46.49 | Guerin | concept10: rilly |
| 13:46.55 | bodgey | is kdelibs4 installable in sid yet? :) |
| 13:47.12 | Guerin | !tell bodgey about search |
| 13:47.20 | Guerin | bah |
| 13:47.25 | Guerin | !tell bodgey about bts |
| 13:47.41 | xoz | kadigibox: oh, i thought you know what is init 1 |
| 13:47.51 | kadigibox | Im new to linux so I just trust what I am told and assuming that after saying I had a FTP transfer I wouldnt have though someone would give me a command that would reboot my system |
| 13:47.51 | bodgey | yeah.. im aware that the bug is listed against libaspell15c2 |
| 13:48.07 | asg | kadigibox: you can resume the transfer with wget -c |
| 13:48.10 | Guerin | bodgey: when a fixed package is uploaded the bug will be cloased |
| 13:48.15 | xoz | kadigibox: ah, it must be the Lag here... |
| 13:48.22 | bodgey | and the maintainer of that package almost got violent about it and told people to "fuck off and use gentoo" |
| 13:48.34 | kadigibox | the server doesnt allow resume and its sending files |
| 13:48.49 | bodgey | i would've thought the bug was with kdelibs4, for depending on a package that no longer exists.. but no bug has been listed |
| 13:48.53 | Guerin | bodgey: heh. on the BTS log? |
| 13:48.56 | xoz | kadigibox: lftp does even if the server aren't |
| 13:48.59 | bodgey | Guerin, yes |
| 13:49.04 | asg | Guerin: at least on planet |
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| 13:49.45 | kadigibox | oh well whats done is done and my DVD drive plays both DVDs and CDs now. thanks |
| 13:49.52 | Eulex | planet? |
| 13:50.06 | PerfDave | There was a mail on d-d-a about libaspell15c2 and ABI changes in sid. |
| 13:50.09 | bob2 | Eulex: planet.debian.org |
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| 13:50.10 | Hiruko | hi |
| 13:50.19 | Eulex | bob2, oh, ok |
| 13:50.23 | bodgey | i think the maintainer of libaspell15 is in the clear renaming to libaspell15c2, due to the recent GCC 4 ABI changes |
| 13:50.24 | xoz | init 1 does the job |
| 13:50.31 | Hiruko | i added pci=noacpi to my brub boot so that my network would function whith acpi enabled |
| 13:50.38 | Hiruko | this in turn disabled my synaptics touch pad. |
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| 13:50.55 | TBBle | No, only in hard disk space sales numbers. |
| 13:50.56 | TBBle | Ooops |
| 13:51.04 | bodgey | perhaps the maintainer of kdelibs4 package has gone on holidays? |
| 13:51.11 | Hiruko | also deos someone have a guide to how to make my usb mouse work? |
| 13:51.33 | egginmilk | synaptics touch pad = ps/2 mouse |
| 13:51.59 | Hiruko | yeah that works fine |
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| 13:52.10 | Hiruko | but when i add pci=noacpi it doesn't |
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| 13:54.49 | xzgv | I'm using sarge/icewm/aterm, how do i increase the font size in aterm? |
| 13:55.08 | kadigibox | init changes runlevel right? |
| 13:55.11 | bob2 | probably using an x resource |
| 13:55.16 | bob2 | kadigibox: among other things |
| 13:55.16 | dont-panic | xzgv: use a nice .Xdefaults |
| 13:55.22 | bob2 | tho I think people use telinit these days |
| 13:55.23 | Hiruko | but when i add pci=noacpi my mouse doesn't work, it's synaptics touch pad |
| 13:55.27 | Hiruko | it works without that in the boot |
| 13:55.29 | kadigibox | ok now I get why it shut down my computer |
| 13:55.33 | Hiruko | I also cannot get my usb mouse to work. |
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| 13:55.43 | dont-panic | aterm*font: 9x15 |
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| 13:56.47 | bodgey | is there a way i can force kdelibs4 to install? :P |
| 13:56.54 | Eulex | Hiruko, what mouse device are you using? |
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| 13:57.15 | mercurus | greetings, I'm having a few problems with Etch and GNOME at the present ... |
| 13:57.16 | Eulex | bodgey, probably, but it's far from recommended |
| 13:57.28 | drac | bodgey: Why wouldn't it install without forcing? |
| 13:57.33 | Hiruko | ExplorerPC/2 on /dev/psaux |
| 13:57.44 | Hiruko | My touch pad always works as long as i don't have pci=noacpi on |
| 13:57.46 | mercurus | it isn't xorg related ... I just tried to restart GNOME, and now it won't come up with the GUI ... even in failsafe mode |
| 13:57.52 | drac | Hiruko: ExplorerPS/2 and it's /dev/input/mice propably. |
| 13:57.54 | Hiruko | but my usb mouse hasn't worked on the 2.6 kernel |
| 13:57.56 | bodgey | its got a broken dep.. kdelibs4 depends on libaspell15, which has been renamed libaspell15c2 |
| 13:58.15 | mercurus | I can login at the gdm prompt, but once that happens there aren't any menus, icons, and the background doesn't change ... |
| 13:58.16 | Hiruko | drac: my touch pad works fine though |
| 13:58.16 | Eulex | Hiruko, could you try using /dev/input/mice instead? |
| 13:58.18 | bob2 | you just have to wait |
| 13:58.19 | mercurus | any suggestions ? |
| 13:58.24 | bob2 | or help the kdelibs maintainer |
| 13:58.25 | Hiruko | i can |
| 13:58.28 | drac | Hiruko: PC != PS |
| 13:58.42 | bodgey | bob2: unfortunately i cant even do.. apt-get build-dep kdelibs4 |
| 13:58.47 | MoDaX | bodgey: wait |
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| 13:59.04 | Hiruko | what? |
| 13:59.06 | bob2 | bodgey: right, you need to go deeper |
| 13:59.09 | Hiruko | oh yeah |
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| 13:59.10 | Hiruko | typo |
| 13:59.18 | MoDaX | bodgey: transitions in progress. many things break |
| 13:59.23 | bob2 | bodgey: perhaps you need to wait for other things to transition still |
| 13:59.24 | bodgey | its been a few days now.. i have to burn cds/dvds using command line tools.. i've tried gnomebaker, and graveman they SUCK big time ;) |
| 13:59.26 | Eulex | mercurus, have you got gnome installed? |
| 13:59.39 | mercurus | Eulex: yes, it has been running fine for the last 7 months ... |
| 13:59.43 | dont-panic | bodgey: try cdrecord ? |
| 14:00.00 | bodgey | yeah thats what im using.. and mkisofs |
| 14:00.04 | dont-panic | or cdrecordpro-dvd |
| 14:00.07 | mercurus | the last update was ... 1 June ... with the upgrade to etch |
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| 14:00.17 | bodgey | dont-panic, im using growisofs |
| 14:00.23 | bodgey | for dvds |
| 14:00.24 | Eulex | mercurus, have you got any other desktop environment/window manager installed that you could try? |
| 14:00.37 | mercurus | Eulex: alas no ... |
| 14:00.43 | dont-panic | aye |
| 14:00.44 | MoDaX | bodgey: downgrade to sarge |
| 14:00.52 | MoDaX | bodgey: or testing |
| 14:01.18 | mercurus | Eulex: I'll just install blackbox for a test ... |
| 14:01.19 | bodgey | im happy with sid.. just this one package im waiting on |
| 14:01.22 | Eulex | mercurus, what does running X at the console do? |
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| 14:01.47 | chocoman | asg, just in case you are able to crack this, here is the output of make install and what happens as i try to install the custom type after a successful make -->> http://pastebot.nd.edu/1815 |
| 14:02.12 | xzgv | can somebody tell me the name of the program to select fonts? i thought it was 'fontsel' |
| 14:02.15 | mercurus | Eulex: X: presents me with an XFree86 server ... no wm though |
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| 14:02.28 | dont-panic | xzgv: xfontsel |
| 14:02.31 | MoDaX | bodgey: then get the old lib from sarge manually and dpkg -i it |
| 14:02.35 | Eulex | mercurus, can you move the mouse around and do you have a pattern as background? |
| 14:02.36 | dont-panic | xzgv: but that won't do a thing for aterm |
| 14:02.41 | xzgv | don_inlab, thx, pal |
| 14:02.44 | Hiruko | hmm |
| 14:02.49 | Hiruko | eulex |
| 14:02.52 | asg | chocoman: for whatever reason, it cannot find the custom type. I don't know why though. |
| 14:02.53 | Hiruko | I changed it to that |
| 14:02.54 | mercurus | Eulex: yep, X is running fine ... |
| 14:03.01 | Hiruko | But pci=noacpi still disables it |
| 14:03.23 | mercurus | Eulex: I get to login with gdm, and that works fine ... but there's nothing on screen after a successful login |
| 14:03.27 | Hiruko | i need acpi, networking and my mouse to work all at the same time, hahah |
| 14:03.30 | mercurus | even if I do a failsafe GNOME login |
| 14:03.46 | takatumi | Hiruko: which kernel? |
| 14:03.48 | Eulex | mercurus, check your logs |
| 14:04.03 | Hiruko | 2.6.12.3 |
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| 14:04.15 | Eulex | Hiruko, compiled yourself? |
| 14:04.17 | Hiruko | Yes |
| 14:04.21 | mercurus | Eulex: there's nothing in the XFree86 log ... or syslog or messages to indicate any failure ... |
| 14:04.23 | franz | Hi all, I have a little problem with klogd, when It starts at boot, it just hangs, the only thing I get in my logs is :klogd 1.4.1#17, log source = /proc/kmsg started I have nothing when typing dmesg.. Any ideas? |
| 14:04.29 | mercurus | it seems to be running fine, but just stopping ... |
| 14:04.37 | takatumi | Hiruko: tried compiling the acpi stuff static? |
| 14:04.38 | Eulex | mercurus, .xsession-errors? |
| 14:04.41 | Hiruko | I did |
| 14:04.44 | mercurus | before starting what it usually does ... |
| 14:04.47 | chocoman | what does $ character do as in here -->> $libdir/uniqueidentifier |
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| 14:05.02 | asg | chocoman: it's a variable |
| 14:05.13 | Eulex | chocoman, retrieve the environment variable libdir |
| 14:05.22 | Hiruko | somehow i found out through tiral and error that acpi was conflicting with my network |
| 14:05.24 | Eulex | well, in shell |
| 14:05.33 | Hiruko | someone suggested pci=noacpi which solved that problem, but disabled my mouse |
| 14:05.33 | mercurus | Eulex: not as far as I can see ... if I choose "blackbox" at the gdm menu, I get a very nice blackbox screen ... |
| 14:05.36 | Hiruko | =S |
| 14:05.42 | LWATCDR | I am having a hard time just getting through the install on debian. It seems to lock on the finding the CD-Rom. I am using an old createive IDE cdrom |
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| 14:06.07 | chocoman | :S |
| 14:06.24 | systemadmin | dude that vnc through ssh rocks thanks |
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| 14:06.47 | Eulex | mercurus, this is a problem with gnome -- we had another person a week ago or so with the same problem -- and I dunno the reason |
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| 14:06.54 | chocoman | beats me, this guy who authored this custom type never supplied any useful help documenation, just said to do the make and make install |
| 14:07.04 | chocoman | while i had to install many dependencies |
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| 14:07.22 | chocoman | and do many other things which he thinks are the obvious :S |
| 14:07.24 | mercurus | Eulex: bugger. Anything I can do to help debug it ? I'm happy using bb until gnome is fixed ... but I do like GNOME :) |
| 14:07.27 | Hiruko | Eulex you think I compiled wrong? |
| 14:07.39 | chocoman | and now that i finally got through to making a sucessful make install, i hit a brick wall |
| 14:07.40 | Hiruko | I'm no expert.. been using linux for 10 days now.. but I think I got it right |
| 14:07.53 | chocoman | :( |
| 14:07.57 | asg | chocoman: and nobody in #postgresql knows anything? |
| 14:08.12 | chocoman | nope |
| 14:08.19 | Eulex | mercurus, you may want to mail debian-user and if there is any debian mailing list for gnome in debian -- also, you could try #gnome |
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| 14:08.37 | mercurus | Eulex: I can give you a list of all the packages I've updated in the last 17 days ... (I last rebooted the machine 9 days ago - that's when gnome would last have been run) |
| 14:08.48 | chocoman | nobody in postgresql has the slightest clue |
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| 14:09.07 | Guerin | bah, stupid sun |
| 14:09.17 | Guerin | i was wearing sunscreen, damn you! |
| 14:09.22 | Eulex | mercurus, you may want to check the bts (but I have no idea what package you would look in :() |
| 14:09.35 | mercurus | bts ? |
| 14:09.40 | Eulex | !bts |
| 14:09.40 | dpkg | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 14:09.54 | asg | chocoman: just out of curiosity, is there any reason you aren't using the debian postgres package and compiling from source? |
| 14:10.02 | mercurus | ah ... bugzilla :) |
| 14:10.15 | TBBle | Bugzilla? Sacreliege! |
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| 14:11.01 | Eulex | Hiruko, btw, why have you compiled your own kernel? |
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| 14:11.55 | Hiruko | I needed a 2.6 kernel that would work |
| 14:12.01 | Hiruko | The 2.6 image didn't work with my sound |
| 14:12.07 | Guerin | pebcak |
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| 14:12.14 | Eulex | Hiruko, and the new does? |
| 14:12.18 | Hiruko | Yes |
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| 14:12.26 | Hiruko | I compiled it correctly afaik |
| 14:12.33 | Hiruko | Just there's something with acpi that doesn't like anything |
| 14:12.40 | Hiruko | Just need to figure out what that is ;p |
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| 14:14.30 | mercurus | Eulex: a tenor says the problem is metacity ... |
| 14:14.58 | Eulex | mercurus, may be. tenor? |
| 14:15.05 | mercurus | I was running bb quite happily, and tried to switch to metacity ... and it stopped at exactly the same point as when I tried to load fully blown GNOME |
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| 14:15.16 | mercurus | tenor, as in ten pounds - a bet |
| 14:15.47 | paulswm | tenner |
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| 14:15.59 | paulswm | tenor is a tone |
| 14:16.14 | TiTaN_pi8 | hellow, could someone tell me why startx isn't installed on debian after i have done #apt-get install fluxbox? |
| 14:16.26 | Eulex | TiTaN_pi8, you have to install X |
| 14:16.31 | asg | TiTaN_pi8: because fluxbox doesn't require xbase-clients |
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| 14:16.37 | gravity | TiTaN_pi8: Install x-window-system |
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| 14:16.42 | TiTaN_pi8 | gravity |
| 14:16.55 | TiTaN_pi8 | gravity, when I do that, apt wants to remove fluxbox |
| 14:17.05 | gravity | er...? |
| 14:17.12 | gravity | That can't be right |
| 14:17.14 | Hostile | .. |
| 14:17.22 | TiTaN_pi8 | yeah, weird |
| 14:17.28 | gravity | You'll have to figure out why |
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| 14:17.38 | TiTaN_pi8 | mmh |
| 14:17.59 | Guerin | TiTaN_pi8: try x-window-system-core |
| 14:18.00 | TiTaN_pi8 | i have also installed xserver-svga could that have something to do with it? probably not |
| 14:18.06 | xNinja | hello...does someone know how to get all hosts/domains in a specific dns server? like if i did host -l mydomain.com ns1.mydomain.com, it will give me the names related to *.mydomain.com but how if i want to get all names in that dns server ? |
| 14:18.07 | gravity | Just try and install x-base-clients like asg said too |
| 14:18.11 | TiTaN_pi8 | guerin, i will try that |
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| 14:18.15 | Guerin | TiTaN_pi8: TiTaN_pi8 wtf, you're using x 3.3? |
| 14:18.15 | gravity | TiTaN_pi8: Dude, are you running woody? |
| 14:18.22 | Eulex | TiTaN_pi8, stable/testing/unstable? and are you using third party apt repos or packages for anything? |
| 14:18.26 | tapas | hi, if i have a file, how do i do i find out which package it's from? |
| 14:18.34 | asg | tapas: /msg dpkg search |
| 14:18.35 | gravity | tapas: dpkg -S |
| 14:18.59 | tapas | gravity: that didn't find the package for me.. |
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| 14:19.04 | TiTaN_pi8 | gravity, yes Woody |
| 14:19.06 | tapas | asg: i'll try thanks |
| 14:19.15 | gravity | Oh man |
| 14:19.23 | TiTaN_pi8 | guerin, i need 3.3 |
| 14:19.26 | Eulex | TiTaN_pi8, and how does your sources.list look? |
| 14:19.53 | tapas | gravity: ah i suppose i need to specify full path |
| 14:20.03 | gravity | tapas: Yeah, that's probably wise |
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| 14:20.17 | tapas | gravity: weird: dpkg -S /sbin/start-stop-daemon |
| 14:20.19 | tapas | dpkg: /sbin/start-stop-daemon |
| 14:20.20 | TiTaN_pi8 | eulex, i have apt looking in oldstable right now |
| 14:20.21 | shai__ | bah, I'm trying to install a package and I lack some dependancies, I'd usually just go and get them manually but at all of my debian user friends' machines there was no problem |
| 14:20.33 | shai__ | I thinked there's something messed up with my sources list |
| 14:20.33 | Eulex | TiTaN_pi8, ok |
| 14:20.42 | shai__ | can someone PM me his sources list? |
| 14:21.00 | PerfDave | shai__: What package are you trying to install, what dependencies are you missing? |
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| 14:21.37 | TiTaN_pi8 | mmh i think i'm gonna install x-system-core and afterwards see if I can install fluxbox, k? |
| 14:21.38 | shai__ | PerfDave, azureus, and I'm missing the Java virtual machine |
| 14:21.44 | PerfDave | shai__: /msg dpkg java |
| 14:22.24 | PerfDave | (unless azureus now works with Free Java, I have no idea) |
| 14:22.34 | bodgey | how do i find the build dependencies for kdelibs4, if apt-get build-dep kdelibs4 doesnt work? :) |
| 14:22.35 | asg | shai__: apt-setup will recreate sources |
| 14:23.07 | PerfDave | bodgey: If that doesn't work, the package is broken, and you'll have to do it manually. But I'd check the BTS first. |
| 14:23.13 | asg | tapas: what's wierd about that? |
| 14:23.16 | bob2 | bodgey: use them as a guide, and find the replacements manually |
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| 14:23.41 | tapas | asg: /sbin/start-stop-daemon is not a package |
| 14:23.50 | asg | tapas: no, it's a binary in the 'dpkg' package |
| 14:23.52 | shai__ | well, dpkg tells me to apt-get it, not really stating the package name |
| 14:23.59 | bodgey | i know the package is broken.. thats why im trying to rebuild it myself, the BTS has listed the bug as of yesterday.. but im getting impatient |
| 14:24.13 | bodgey | how do i list the dependancies manually? |
| 14:24.35 | asg | tapas: the factoid is probably outdated. |
| 14:24.37 | PerfDave | bodgey: If the build dependencies information in the package is broken, then you're SOL. |
| 14:24.42 | tapas | asg: aaaah.. i thought the "dpkg:" thing was a marker to tell me this output comes from dpkg :) |
| 14:24.53 | asg | tapas: :) |
| 14:24.56 | bob2 | bodgey: apt-cache showsrc kdelibs |
| 14:25.48 | tapas | asg: thanks again :) |
| 14:25.53 | bodgey | bob2: nice that works.. any bets how long this will take to compile.. 10 years? ;) |
| 14:25.59 | asg | tapas: you're welcome |
| 14:26.35 | bob2 | kdelibs is big |
| 14:26.36 | bob2 | and C++ |
| 14:26.37 | bob2 | thus slow |
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| 14:27.04 | asg | bodgey: just wait and take the opportunity to use other environments/window managers. |
| 14:27.36 | bodgey | asg: its k3b i need.. and unfortunately i cant downgrade to previous version without downgrading half my os ;) |
| 14:27.58 | asg | bodgey: it's k3b you want, other tools do the job just fine. |
| 14:28.06 | Yokalosh | i want to change the screen resolution of my debian for more screen space but currently all i can have is 800 x 600 and 640 x 480 |
| 14:28.12 | Yokalosh | what do i do? |
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| 14:28.17 | asg | !drxx Yokalosh |
| 14:28.19 | Eulex | !drxx Yokalosh |
| 14:28.19 | dpkg | Yokalosh: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root) |
| 14:28.27 | Yokalosh | thankyou |
| 14:28.51 | asg | we probably need to change that to reflect xserver-xorg also |
| 14:28.58 | Hiruko | hmm |
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| 14:29.10 | AXEPT | boas ppl alguem para ajudar? |
| 14:29.15 | Eulex | asg, xorg is in unstable yet? |
| 14:29.15 | asg | !br |
| 14:29.15 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:29.19 | asg | Eulex: yes |
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| 14:29.37 | Eulex | asg, cool :) been away for a few days |
| 14:29.41 | asg | Eulex: X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Debian 6.8.2.dfsg.1-2 20050712162020 david@squee.verizon.net) |
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| 14:30.12 | asg | PerfDave: it starts slower than xfree86 |
| 14:30.13 | Hiruko | Eulex: any ideas on why pci=noacpi would disable my mouse? |
| 14:30.14 | bob2 | until it's installable? ;p |
| 14:30.22 | FieldySnuts | !hack nvz_ |
| 14:30.41 | Eulex | Hiruko, I have no idea, it's probably a hw problem |
| 14:30.44 | shai__ | "The following packages have unmet dependencies: azureus: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or java2-runtime but it is not installable" |
| 14:30.46 | PerfDave | bob2: It seems to be very easily installable, according to the article I just read on Debian Administration. |
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| 14:31.02 | shai__ | that's after following dpkg's reciepe for installing java |
| 14:31.25 | asg | shai__: did you dpkg -i the deb the recipe generated? |
| 14:31.42 | Hiruko | :( |
| 14:31.49 | Hiruko | Urgh |
| 14:31.54 | shai__ | I've downloaded a deb and "dpkg -i"d it |
| 14:31.58 | Hiruko | how about getting a usb mouse to work? |
| 14:32.08 | Hiruko | I followed dpkg's 'usbmouse' instructions |
| 14:32.14 | bob2 | Hiruko: plugging it in should be enough |
| 14:32.17 | Eulex | Hiruko, though you could try doing cat /dev/input/eventX and touch the touchpad. if it's right, you should get lotsa garbage in the console |
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| 14:32.30 | Hiruko | i cannot modprobe hid nor mousedev |
| 14:32.40 | asg | shai__: downloaded? make-jpkg creates a deb from the downloaded upstream .bin file. |
| 14:32.43 | Hiruko | eulex it does get the touchpad event |
| 14:32.51 | Hiruko | just my useb mouse doesn't wanna do anything |
| 14:33.01 | Hiruko | i prefer is |
| 14:33.08 | Eulex | Hiruko, then do the same with the usb mouse |
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| 14:33.19 | Eulex | I thnk... |
| 14:33.26 | shai__ | I dunno, dpkg has sent me to this package - http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fcontrib%2Fj%2Fjava-package%2Fjava-package_0.24_all.deb&md5sum=91a560dfb41556008d0ffa6b0b61f2f1&arch=all&type=main |
| 14:33.38 | _paul | Hiruko: try depmod -ae ; modprobe hid |
| 14:33.49 | asg | shai__: yes, then you use the resultant 'make-jpkg' command to build a deb from the upstream .bin file. |
| 14:33.55 | mercurus | Eulex: I can't find any reference to this problem on gnome-user, or in the bts ... I'm pretty sure it is a metacity issue |
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| 14:34.09 | shai__ | excuse me for being stupid, but what IS an upstream .bin file? |
| 14:34.10 | xNinja | how to get all names in a nameserver(s) ? |
| 14:34.33 | asg | shai__: the thing you download from java.sun.com |
| 14:34.34 | Hiruko | module hid not found |
| 14:34.35 | TheAsp | shai__: the file ending in .bin from upstream |
| 14:34.35 | TiTaN_pi8 | it worked: i just installed x-window-system and let it remove fluxbox and afterward i just reinstalled fluxbox |
| 14:34.36 | TiTaN_pi8 | :) |
| 14:34.47 | asg | !win resiak |
| 14:34.48 | dpkg | Congratulations, resiak! You have won a one way ticket to Nova Scotia! |
| 14:34.54 | TheAsp | hey |
| 14:34.56 | TheAsp | i live in ns |
| 14:34.57 | TheAsp | :P |
| 14:34.59 | resiak | :O I want to go to Nova Scotia! |
| 14:35.06 | asg | yeah, much better than Bagdad |
| 14:35.07 | shai__ | OK, my problem seems to be more basic, what's upstream? |
| 14:35.21 | TheAsp | shai__: where you get the .bin file from |
| 14:35.40 | _paul | Hiruko: Why disable ACPI anyway if it works with it? |
| 14:35.45 | shai__ | K, we are going in loops. I got the package, and installed it, and I have no idea what to do now. |
| 14:35.56 | Hiruko | um |
| 14:36.01 | Hiruko | I have acpi enabled |
| 14:36.08 | TheAsp | shai__: the bin file or the deb file you created with make-jpkg? |
| 14:36.09 | Hiruko | pci=noacpi was suggested to get networking to work |
| 14:36.12 | shai__ | where do I find the .bin file, and should the answer be "in the upstream", where do I find spoken upstrean |
| 14:36.23 | Hiruko | then both acpi and netwokring work but no mouse |
| 14:36.30 | TheAsp | shai__: look up, someone already told you |
| 14:36.30 | Hiruko | with acpi=off my mouse and network work... |
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| 14:36.32 | shai__ | the file I grabbed was a .deb file |
| 14:36.42 | Hiruko | It's a loop |
| 14:36.42 | asg | shai__: java is non-free therefore not in debian. You have to download the java package from sun.com. Then, the make-jpkg command in the java-package package that you just install will build a deb file you can install that provides the necessary java runtime. |
| 14:37.34 | asg | shai__: for a bullet list rundown, /msg dpkg java-package howto |
| 14:37.41 | shai__ | so the package I got is just a tool for installing the java runtime? |
| 14:37.47 | shai__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.55 | shai__ | bah |
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| 14:38.06 | Hiruko | _paul you understand? |
| 14:38.22 | _paul | Hiruko: Sorry, thinking |
| 14:38.26 | Hiruko | kk ^_^ |
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| 14:38.43 | asg | _paul: Hiruko has the must fucked up hardware on the planet. He's been at this for a week. |
| 14:38.47 | asg | s/must/most/ |
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| 14:38.51 | Hiruko | hehe |
| 14:39.01 | Hiruko | I'm learning from my fucked up hardware though :p |
| 14:39.02 | Yokalosh | lol hiruko |
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| 14:39.25 | _paul | Hiruko: What about going into bios and using the 'reset configuration' that reassigns interupts. |
| 14:39.28 | Hiruko | Once it works just how I like it I should be a pro |
| 14:39.32 | FieldySnuts | i've already got him ignored too. |
| 14:39.33 | ciga | how do I change gcc 2.95 to gcc 3.0 on woody? I try with update-alternatives, but it just don't work. |
| 14:39.36 | Hiruko | I'll check my bios |
| 14:39.40 | _paul | Hiruko" true |
| 14:39.41 | Hiruko | FieldySnuts doesn't love me :( |
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| 14:39.58 | drac | ciga: Upgrade to Debian Stable. |
| 14:40.01 | Hiruko | kk i'll see what options i have in my bios |
| 14:40.02 | Hiruko | heh |
| 14:40.18 | resiak | ciga: Just repoint the /usr/bin/gcc symlink |
| 14:40.18 | Hiruko | lol |
| 14:40.30 | _paul | Hiriko: You may have to more pci cards too... |
| 14:40.35 | asg | ciga: either hack whatever make file is referencing gcc to reference gcc-3.0 or just change the symlinks in /usr/bin to point to the one you want to use. |
| 14:40.40 | _paul | more -> move |
| 14:40.50 | ciga | so noone knows the debian way? |
| 14:40.56 | Hiruko | i have a laptop |
| 14:41.02 | asg | ciga: yes, using update-alternatives |
| 14:41.08 | Guerin | no |
| 14:41.09 | RichiH | any suggestions on a little app that can take a few points and plot a graph (not a curve, an approximated linear function is ok)? |
| 14:41.11 | ciga | update-alternatives --install /etc/alternatives/cc cc /usr/bin/gcc-3.0 20 |
| 14:41.11 | shai__ | hmphh... there are too many files at the sun webpage (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp), which one should I get? |
| 14:41.19 | Guerin | gcc isn't handled using alternatives. Change the symlink. |
| 14:41.26 | asg | Guerin: it used to be in woody |
| 14:41.28 | _paul | ciga: Try CC=gcc-3.0 C++=g++-3.0 |
| 14:41.29 | ciga | asg: I use this, and 2.95 has 10, but gcc --version still says 2.95 |
| 14:41.31 | Guerin | of course, you could set up your own |
| 14:41.45 | resiak | ciga: I just told you the debian way. |
| 14:41.46 | Guerin | asg: oh, rilly? |
| 14:42.10 | RichiH | and i mean little literally, no maple or R |
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| 14:42.21 | shai__ | oh, that was a stupid question, nevermind |
| 14:42.24 | Atula | what package let you watch movie in ascii mode? |
| 14:42.28 | asg | Guerin: yes. It was a while back though so I might have hacked it to work properly since update-alternatives is a little flaky at times. |
| 14:42.29 | Atula | I thought it's pretty cool |
| 14:42.29 | Hiruko | _paul nothing in my bios |
| 14:42.38 | ciga | Atula: mplayer -vo aa? |
| 14:42.44 | Atula | hm |
| 14:43.01 | _paul | Hiruko: How about an option for Plug-n-Play OS? |
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| 14:43.09 | Hiruko | it's a limited bios |
| 14:43.15 | Hiruko | there's really nothing in there |
| 14:43.32 | _paul | Hiruko: Whats the box? |
| 14:43.51 | Atula | ciga: oh thanks. how can I get it in color? |
| 14:43.52 | Hiruko | This is a compaq presario r4000 |
| 14:43.59 | Eulex | hehe |
| 14:44.00 | Hiruko | Don't bash it.. I got it at a nice price |
| 14:44.11 | Eulex | I was just gonna say: "/me bets it's a compaq" |
| 14:44.13 | FieldySnuts | compaq. explains it all. |
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| 14:44.18 | asg | I don't think I'd even accept it for free. |
| 14:44.25 | Hiruko | Hey it almost works all the way |
| 14:44.25 | FieldySnuts | anyway i'm tired of dealing with the annoyance, re-ignoring |
| 14:44.28 | _paul | Hiruko: What about a new kernel? |
| 14:44.36 | FieldySnuts | buy real hardware. |
| 14:44.37 | Hiruko | 2.6.12.3 |
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| 14:44.46 | Hiruko | What's with Filedy? |
| 14:44.52 | nicknicknick | okay what support is there for GD? jpeg, png, gif, tiff, and... what else? is there a complete list? |
| 14:44.53 | resiak | Hiruko: Did it work with a Debian stock kernel? |
| 14:44.54 | ciga | Atula: I dunno |
| 14:44.59 | Hiruko | no |
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| 14:45.05 | Hiruko | Alsa also didn't work with it |
| 14:45.08 | Yokalosh | is there any way to add a higher refresh rate to the resolution menu? there is only 60hz at the moment and it is flashy |
| 14:45.11 | Hiruko | the 2.6.8 image |
| 14:45.12 | PwNaG3 | Which, if install with apt-get, is bigger? KDE or Gnome ? |
| 14:45.14 | resiak | !drxx Yokalosh |
| 14:45.16 | dpkg | Yokalosh: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
| 14:45.26 | resiak | !nickometer PwNaG3 |
| 14:45.26 | dpkg | 'PwNaG3' is 99.080% lame, resiak |
| 14:45.31 | PerfDave | PwNaG3: Depends exactly what you install :) |
| 14:45.31 | resiak | \o/ |
| 14:45.44 | PwNaG3 | heh |
| 14:45.54 | PwNaG3 | PerfDave: apt-get wont let me choose :/ |
| 14:46.06 | resiak | PwNaG3: Yes it will. |
| 14:46.14 | Hiruko | lol |
| 14:46.17 | Hiruko | apt-cache search |
| 14:46.18 | Hiruko | lol |
| 14:46.19 | _paul | Hiruko: What about pci=routeirq as a kernel option. |
| 14:46.34 | Hiruko | what does that do? |
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| 14:46.46 | ThePiratemaster | hey |
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| 14:46.47 | resiak | PwNaG3: There's gnome, gnome-desktop-environment, gnome-core in order of big to small. Similar with kde. apt-cache search --names-only gnome |
| 14:46.48 | _paul | Its in my dmesg |
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| 14:47.08 | Yokalosh | resiak: once i am in that xfree85 setup what do i do to add refresh rates? |
| 14:47.14 | asg | PwNaG3: there's also /msg dpkg install kde, /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 14:47.18 | Hiruko | _paul: i'll try that |
| 14:47.19 | resiak | Yokalosh: Tell it what your monitor can do. |
| 14:47.19 | Yokalosh | *86 |
| 14:47.35 | takatumi | Hiruko: mine is a presario 2540, might be similar, acpi, network and touchpad all works fine with this config, http://gpoppy.org/config-2.6.12 try diffing it with yours. |
| 14:47.39 | PwNaG3 | kl |
| 14:47.40 | PwNaG3 | thx |
| 14:47.47 | Hiruko | okay thanks :) |
| 14:47.49 | ThePiratemaster | what linux disto fits from some floppys and has X and runs on old hardware? |
| 14:47.56 | ThePiratemaster | couldmnt find anything on google |
| 14:48.04 | FieldySnuts | probably none, X is far too large for such a thing |
| 14:48.06 | Ronin | x and on a floppy? probibly none |
| 14:48.10 | asg | ThePiratemaster: puppy or tomsbrt |
| 14:48.11 | Eulex | ThePiratemaster, umh.... is that an oxymoron? |
| 14:48.18 | resiak | asg: tomsrtbt has X? |
| 14:48.18 | rbochan | asg: no x on tons |
| 14:48.21 | PwNaG3 | !nickometer Whisky_ |
| 14:48.22 | asg | ThePiratemaster: it's more than one floppy though |
| 14:48.31 | ThePiratemaster | it no prob |
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| 14:48.39 | asg | resiak: dunno these days. The site has links to others though. |
| 14:48.40 | briankeys | hi =) |
| 14:48.44 | ThePiratemaster | can i install in on a hard drive or keepo the floppies iwht me |
| 14:48.46 | PwNaG3 | resiak: [19:48] <dpkg> the 'lame nick-o-meter' reading for Whisky_ is 0.000% |
| 14:48.47 | PwNaG3 | heh |
| 14:48.48 | PwNaG3 | >_> |
| 14:48.51 | resiak | omg hi2u briankeys lolol |
| 14:48.53 | resiak | Ahem. |
| 14:48.55 | briankeys | lolol |
| 14:48.57 | Whisky_ | =p |
| 14:49.03 | Whisky_ | hi2u resiak asl? |
| 14:49.06 | FieldySnuts | !irritate resiak |
| 14:49.07 | dpkg | resiak: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses gnome !!!1 |
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| 14:49.11 | briankeys | r u a boy ??? |
| 14:49.15 | resiak | @annoy FieldySnuts |
| 14:49.15 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: bash: RTFM: command not found!!!!! |
| 14:49.23 | briankeys | anyway |
| 14:49.42 | briankeys | i downloaded the latest unstable testing debian |
| 14:49.45 | briankeys | installed it |
| 14:49.52 | resiak | !tell briankeys -about enter |
| 14:49.52 | asg | briankeys: there is no unstable testing debian |
| 14:50.04 | briankeys | >< |
| 14:50.15 | Eulex | briankeys, you don't install unstable or testing, you install stable and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:50.19 | resiak | Oh, christ, another "onoez sid si br0ken" person. |
| 14:50.28 | rbochan | resiak: it's sunday! |
| 14:50.31 | briankeys | ahh |
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| 14:50.41 | Eulex | !sing sunday |
| 14:50.41 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 14:50.47 | Hiruko | _paul that didn't work |
| 14:50.48 | briankeys | my only reason for upgrading at all was to get the latest version of iptables :-/ |
| 14:50.54 | resiak | rbochan: It's been Sunday since 0200 UTC on Saturday. =] |
| 14:50.54 | Hiruko | pci=routeirq |
| 14:50.58 | Eulex | briankeys, why? |
| 14:50.59 | rbochan | ;) |
| 14:51.08 | resiak | rbochan: (I know, I was there.) |
| 14:51.14 | nforbes | briankeys, You switched to sid just to get the latest version of iptables? |
| 14:51.16 | _paul | Hiruko: Sorry ;-( |
| 14:51.16 | shadowcat | Eulex: well you *can* install testing/unstable |
| 14:51.19 | briankeys | older version was so outdated :) |
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| 14:51.30 | shadowcat | if you're brave enough to try daily install image build |
| 14:51.31 | Hiruko | _paul: maybe I'll ahve to live without it :( |
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| 14:51.48 | Whisky_ | i must admit dpkg is a really really smart bot :| |
| 14:51.50 | shadowcat | don't expect it to work though |
| 14:51.54 | ludeens | hi all |
| 14:51.55 | OleMoudi | do I have to switch to single user mode to tweak additional hd's where my system is not installed in? |
| 14:52.00 | Hiruko | Then to the second thing, is there a guide for getting usb mice to work? mine doesn't work by default |
| 14:52.02 | _paul | Hiruko: is it a Usb mouse? |
| 14:52.05 | Guerin | smarter than 90% of the inhabitants of #debian |
| 14:52.09 | Hiruko | yes |
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| 14:52.13 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: that's not saying much |
| 14:52.13 | Hiruko | my touchpad actually works fine |
| 14:52.15 | Eulex | shadowcat, but I assume that's not very recommended, is it? :) |
| 14:52.16 | Hiruko | but the usb mouse doesn't |
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| 14:52.21 | eleusis | g'day |
| 14:52.27 | FieldySnuts | @aussiesmite eleusis |
| 14:52.28 | ravenbird | eleusis: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 14:52.31 | shadowcat | Eulex: note the word "brave" |
| 14:52.35 | Guerin | FieldySnuts: i wasn't trying to say much |
| 14:52.41 | FieldySnuts | resiak: we got signal! |
| 14:52.42 | _paul | Hiruko: The alternative mouse driver is usbmouse I believe? |
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| 14:52.44 | shadowcat | then again sometimes bravery is just foolishness |
| 14:52.45 | Hiruko | I have it set to /dev/input/mice and ExplorerPS/2 |
| 14:52.50 | eleusis | :) |
| 14:52.53 | Guerin | who wrote that aussiesmite factoid, it |
| 14:52.56 | Guerin | 's terribly |
| 14:52.59 | Hiruko | how do i use that/ |
| 14:53.00 | asg | Guerin: sussudio |
| 14:53.00 | Eulex | shadowcat, I did |
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| 14:53.08 | Guerin | ah, no surprises then |
| 14:53.15 | resiak | OleMoudi: No, you just edit /etc/fstab |
| 14:53.18 | danbo | hi |
| 14:53.20 | eleusis | i think there's something wrong with ssh :( |
| 14:53.21 | asg | Guerin: erm, it was Fieldy |
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| 14:53.28 | FieldySnuts | i confess! |
| 14:53.30 | Guerin | my statement holds |
| 14:53.35 | dan2 | asg: hey |
| 14:53.35 | asg | Guerin: I assumed ;) |
| 14:53.35 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 14:53.38 | shadowcat | it's all FieldySnuts's fault! |
| 14:53.40 | asg | dan2: morning |
| 14:53.42 | eleusis | it always seems to want to use ssh-askpass instead of giving me a password prompt at the terminal |
| 14:53.43 | FieldySnuts | !blame shadowcat |
| 14:53.51 | Guerin | you don't 'take a bog' |
| 14:53.51 | shadowcat | !blame FieldySnuts |
| 14:53.54 | shadowcat | :P |
| 14:53.55 | eleusis | if i remove ssh-askpass, i can't ssh anywhere |
| 14:53.58 | Guerin | a bog is another word for a toilet |
| 14:54.05 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: i didn't make up the terms, i just abused them |
| 14:54.06 | _paul | Hiruko: rmmod usbhid; modprobe usbmouse |
| 14:54.10 | Hiruko | ok |
| 14:54.13 | FieldySnuts | brb |
| 14:54.14 | resiak | Guerin: Fixify it!one |
| 14:54.23 | danbo | I just installed debian and tried to run KDE (startkde) and it said cannot connect to X server.. but then I did (startx) and I am in the debian display manager.. how do I fix this?? |
| 14:54.33 | Guerin | cba |
| 14:54.39 | Eulex | a bog is a swamp (afaik, I'm not native english) |
| 14:54.39 | shadowcat | you don't type startkde |
| 14:54.41 | dan2 | asg: I've got two six packs of coke in the glass bottles |
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| 14:54.45 | Guerin | arms hurt too much |
| 14:54.47 | asg | dan2: heh |
| 14:54.48 | danbo | what do you type |
| 14:54.51 | resiak | Guerin: Go to bed! |
| 14:54.53 | dan2 | asg: it kicks ass |
| 14:54.59 | asg | Eulex: and an English/Aussie colloquialism for toilet |
| 14:54.59 | shadowcat | you type /etc/init.d/kdm start |
| 14:55.02 | Guerin | Alien is on! |
| 14:55.06 | dan2 | asg: I put some in the freezer till the glass gets chilled |
| 14:55.11 | asg | dan2: cool |
| 14:55.12 | Guerin | can't sleep .... must watch Alien |
| 14:55.16 | resiak | FieldySnuts: You have no chance to survive make your #debian |
| 14:55.17 | shadowcat | assuming that you installed kdm, of course |
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| 14:55.19 | dan2 | asg: just like a fresh beer |
| 14:55.28 | drac | danbo: echo 'exec /usr/bin/startkde' > ~/.xinitrc (as normal user) |
| 14:55.28 | danbo | ohk |
| 14:55.29 | resiak | shadowcat: I think that that's a dangerous assumption. |
| 14:55.32 | drac | danbo: and startx starts kde |
| 14:55.32 | gravity | Guerin: Good call |
| 14:55.33 | shadowcat | either watch that or goto sleep |
| 14:55.35 | asg | dan2: :) |
| 14:55.37 | Guerin | aargh |
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| 14:55.41 | _paul | Sunday is so yesterday. Its 12:55am Monday |
| 14:55.48 | Guerin | wife wants to watch Underworld |
| 14:55.54 | eleusis | :-\ |
| 14:55.55 | resiak | !easternhemispheresmite _paul |
| 14:55.57 | resiak | :( |
| 14:56.02 | shadowcat | resiak: well he installed KDE |
| 14:56.10 | shadowcat | which should pull kdm along with it |
| 14:56.11 | _paul | Downunder thankyou... |
| 14:56.14 | danbo | okay cool. |
| 14:56.17 | resiak | shadowcat: This is true. |
| 14:56.19 | danbo | how do you start gnome though |
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| 14:56.29 | beardy | !permasunday |
| 14:56.29 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 14:56.36 | eleusis | anyone else using ssh on sid? |
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| 14:56.39 | SDFH_Linux | hello |
| 14:56.40 | drac | danbo: echo 'exec /usr/bin/gnome-session' > ~/.xinitrc (as normal user) and startx. |
| 14:56.41 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 14:56.41 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 14:56.42 | eleusis | hi |
| 14:56.50 | eleusis | :( |
| 14:56.57 | danbo | thanks a lot! |
| 14:56.58 | franz | Hi all, I get no output when I use dmesg, what could be the cause of this? |
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| 14:57.05 | TiTaN_pi8 | can anyone tell me how to stay in text-mode instead of starting x at boot? |
| 14:57.05 | shadowcat | !Guerin |
| 14:57.06 | dpkg | Piss off. |
| 14:57.08 | shadowcat | haha |
| 14:57.08 | Eulex | eleusis, that's not a question, that's a poll |
| 14:57.09 | shadowcat | figures |
| 14:57.20 | resiak | !tell TiTaN_pi8 -about nodm |
| 14:57.26 | eleusis | well hey, i explained the problem, no one seemed to notice |
| 14:57.41 | resiak | eleusis: Have you checked the BTS? |
| 14:57.49 | eleusis | yes |
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| 14:57.55 | resiak | eleusis: If so, and there are no bugs filed yet, have you filed a bug? |
| 14:58.05 | beardy | franz: anything in /var/log/dmesg? If not, I'm afraid you haven't booted yet. ;) |
| 14:58.20 | cyzie1 | hello all, how do i switch from static ip to dhcp and from dhcp to static? i need to do this frequently. can anyone help me on this problem? |
| 14:58.21 | Eulex | franz, that means nothing is logging anything to the logs -- is klogd and syslogd running? |
| 14:58.26 | tarzeau | can i have software raid (mirror) on linux sparc64? |
| 14:58.27 | eleusis | i want to confirm whether someone else can reproduce it, because it might be a configuration error on my system |
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| 14:58.38 | franz | beardy, nothing :-( |
| 14:58.46 | resiak | cyzie1: apt-cache show laptop-net # might help |
| 14:58.46 | rbochan | cyzie: therhre's an etherconf pacakge that makes it simple, alsoa couple of laptop pacakges |
| 14:58.55 | Guerin | cyzie1: i wrote a shell script to switch profiles, which you could hack on |
| 14:58.58 | franz | Eulex, klogs freezes and syslogd runs without troubles |
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| 14:59.37 | Guerin | cyzie1: it's very crude, but it was less effort for me to bang up than to figure out how the profiling and mapping works in ifupdown |
| 14:59.45 | cyzie1 | Guerin, sounds good. can i have a look plz? |
| 15:00.00 | Guerin | http://feayn.org/~lewis/ethup |
| 15:00.01 | franz | Eulex, beardy it seems that dmesg and klogd take their kernel logs on /proc/kmsg, the file exists but is empty too.. |
| 15:00.19 | cyzie1 | resiak, LoL |
| 15:00.24 | tarzeau | how to setup a software mirror , from within the debian installer? |
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| 15:01.02 | Guerin | resiak: you may take the script, but you can never take my FREEDOM |
| 15:01.22 | resiak | Guerin: Do you want to bet? |
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| 15:01.42 | cyzie1 | resiak, laptop-net sounds good. thanks to resiak and Guerin |
| 15:01.43 | Hiruko | _paul: and that disables my sound |
| 15:01.44 | Hiruko | LOL |
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| 15:02.01 | Guerin | oh, laptop-net is new, innit |
| 15:02.11 | highvoltage | hi. where can i get plain-text versions of this document: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ ? |
| 15:02.13 | gravity | laptop-net is awesome |
| 15:02.17 | yaccobb | what are main differencies between XFree86 and X.org ? I am trying to upgrade rigt now so I'd like to know... |
| 15:02.30 | Guerin | Eulex: nope... still got it here. |
| 15:02.38 | Eulex | hehe |
| 15:02.46 | Guerin | yaccobb: one's in sid. One's not. |
| 15:02.52 | asg | highvoltage: apt-get install debian-policy |
| 15:02.53 | _paul | Hiruko: So thats simple, chose what you want and boot approprately... |
| 15:03.00 | Hiruko | :p |
| 15:03.00 | highvoltage | asg: thanks |
| 15:03.01 | Hiruko | yep |
| 15:03.09 | Hiruko | 2.6 kernel boots so much faster than 2.4 |
| 15:03.11 | gravity | yaccobb: For most people, the big difference is that the newer cards are supported |
| 15:03.15 | asg | highvoltage: if there isn't an ascii version in there, you can just run html2txt on the html files to generate one, though I think there is an ascii source already. |
| 15:03.20 | _paul | Hiruko: New kernels may fix, who knows? |
| 15:03.31 | Hiruko | yeah |
| 15:03.37 | Hiruko | When does 2.8 come out ^_^ |
| 15:03.44 | Hiruko | THe odd ones are development, correct? |
| 15:03.50 | Guerin | Hiruko: probably never |
| 15:03.55 | resiak | !kernel of instability |
| 15:03.55 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal) |
| 15:04.05 | highvoltage | asg: thanks. downloading the debian-policy deb. |
| 15:04.15 | Guerin | Hiruko: 2.6 is the current development branch, and they've been talking about releasing the next one as 3.0 |
| 15:04.15 | Hiruko | Guerin: why do you say that? |
| 15:04.19 | Hiruko | oh okay |
| 15:04.26 | Guerin | though who knows what might happen between now and then |
| 15:05.19 | yaccobb | gravity, well, and any... major change ? I tryied to google something about it, but I just found out how great x.org is... ;) |
| 15:05.47 | eleusis | try xcompmgr :P |
| 15:06.09 | Thanatermesis | what are located the DB of the apt-file ? |
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| 15:06.22 | gravity | yaccobb: Nothing that affects most people. The main thing is that transitioning allowed the developers to start making big changes to improve the codebase. Those will start appearing in the next revision |
| 15:06.30 | gravity | eleusis: No one has packaged it yet for Debian |
| 15:06.34 | Guerin | yaccobb: diff the sources of xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 and xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-1 |
| 15:06.35 | gravity | Mainly because it's slow as hell right now |
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| 15:06.46 | eleusis | i know |
| 15:06.51 | eleusis | i'm using the package from kanotix |
| 15:06.54 | gravity | Ugh |
| 15:07.01 | Guerin | ... |
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| 15:07.14 | gravity | eleusis: So you like having your system run slow as hell? |
| 15:07.17 | BoDyGuArD_CaMM | hi |
| 15:07.18 | _paul | Hiruko: ? How can modprobe usbmouse disable alsa? |
| 15:07.33 | eleusis | gravity: so you like jumping to conclusions? |
| 15:07.43 | dan2 | _paul: conflicts? |
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| 15:07.53 | dan2 | tho unlikely, but possible |
| 15:07.54 | gravity | eleusis: I know that xcompmgr is slow as hell right now |
| 15:07.58 | FieldySnuts | elurin: so you like bothering people to support stuff they didn't make? |
| 15:08.00 | tzafrir | eleusis, either that or using a non-free driver, AFAIK |
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| 15:08.16 | dan2 | FieldySnuts: isn't that the point of being a maintainer in debian |
| 15:08.27 | _paul | dan2: Unknow |
| 15:08.30 | eleusis | it runs fine here |
| 15:08.31 | gravity | tzafrir: I don't think the non-free drivers can run it fast either |
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| 15:08.37 | eleusis | i'm using the drivers from nvidia.com |
| 15:08.42 | yaccobb | Guerin, gravity : so it is "clearer" code ? I guess it will prove useful in future in developement... ok, thanks for info. |
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| 15:09.02 | gravity | yaccobb: The user-end improvements will start filtering in during the next release |
| 15:09.06 | Guerin | yaccobb: well ... the main thing is shitloads of newer drivers |
| 15:09.25 | redneck | doin a sarge install, thera no sources.list, where to get one clean stable one from? |
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| 15:09.26 | FieldySnuts | xcompmgr is really unstable stuff currently, hangs my system completely, and immediately. it's all just more lame eyecandy anyway |
| 15:09.33 | tzafrir | yaccobb, considering current developemnt of the XFree codebase happens at xorg, no reason not to "move" there |
| 15:09.35 | resiak | redneck: Yes, there is one. What are you on about? |
| 15:09.54 | Guerin | redneck: apt-setup |
| 15:10.02 | redneck | resiak: thers just one security one |
| 15:10.09 | BoDyGuArD_CaMM | turkish penis web cam sex kurt_umit@hotmail.com 28 m female add pls |
| 15:10.10 | BoDyGuArD_CaMM | turkish penis web cam sex kurt_umit@hotmail.com 28 m female add pls |
| 15:10.15 | resiak | !ops BoDyGuArD_CaMM |
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| 15:10.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: BoDyGuArD_CaMM |
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| 15:10.41 | Hiruko | wow this is annoying |
| 15:10.44 | resiak | Oh well. |
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| 15:10.48 | Hiruko | _paul: now my sound suddenly doesn't work oO |
| 15:10.51 | fuzzy | hi all can someone help me with a small problem? |
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| 15:11.02 | yaccobb | wow, maybe my radeon 9250 will be there to... no more fglrx instalation... wow;) |
| 15:11.13 | resiak | !tell fuzzy -about ask |
| 15:11.14 | yaccobb | !wow |
| 15:11.14 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wow is a word begging with a 'w', then an 'o'. It ends with a 'w'. This means that it is reversible. It is a useful word for situations in which you wish to imply a feeling of general wow-ness. Best used in brackets following some other statement, like this: Debian is the best linux distro (wow). Also combine with exclamation marks for added wow-ity factor. (wow!!!) :) |
| 15:11.17 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 15:11.23 | yaccobb | sorry |
| 15:11.26 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@212.156.210.196] by dondelelcaro |
| 15:11.29 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 15:11.35 | Hiruko | what? |
| 15:11.38 | resiak | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 15:11.47 | redneck | resiak: where is the sources.list in a standard sarge install? i cant find it, just secureity! |
| 15:11.48 | FieldySnuts | they just did that in #gentoo as well |
| 15:12.05 | FieldySnuts | dalnet morons |
| 15:12.07 | resiak | redneck: /etc/apt/sources.list ... |
| 15:12.12 | Hiruko | oooh let's try this |
| 15:12.14 | Hiruko | wow!!! |
| 15:12.24 | resiak | FieldySnuts: omg yru on #gentoo ?!?!?! |
| 15:12.25 | _paul | Hiruko: What you do? |
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| 15:12.28 | Hiruko | Nothing |
| 15:12.29 | ircdevil | Hiruko: nice |
| 15:12.31 | fuzzy | i can't get apt-get update (telling me that i can fetch ftp) but it worked in the past the only thing is that i'm connected to inet and i the past via dhcp |
| 15:12.32 | dan2 | dondelelcaro: out of curiosity, who did you ban? |
| 15:12.33 | FieldySnuts | resiak: wenas who uses gentoo lol |
| 15:12.33 | Hiruko | Well I installed ndiswrapper |
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| 15:12.37 | black_Nightmare | hey there |
| 15:12.40 | Hiruko | but it worked after i installed that |
| 15:12.41 | dondelelcaro | dan2: guess. |
| 15:12.47 | redneck | people, yer know what you give you will get |
| 15:12.50 | Hiruko | then I restarted and it doesn't work.. i get that no such device error |
| 15:12.55 | FieldySnuts | please expand that to *!*@212.* ;) |
| 15:12.59 | rbochan | heh |
| 15:13.01 | dan2 | dondelelcaro: I've whois'd a dozen people |
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| 15:13.08 | resiak | dan2: 16:12 BoDyGuArD_CaMM : turkish penis web cam sex kurt_umit@hotmail.com 28 m female add pls |
| 15:13.10 | dan2 | dondelelcaro: FieldySnuts is still here |
| 15:13.14 | _paul | Hiruko: Thats the best way to do everything, nothing fixes it with time... |
| 15:13.16 | dan2 | resiak: oh, missed that |
| 15:13.17 | FieldySnuts | !smite dan2 |
| 15:13.23 | resiak | !smitesmite FieldySnuts |
| 15:13.24 | FieldySnuts | frogs? what's so scary about that? |
| 15:13.25 | drac | yaccobb: 9250 is supported by 2.6 kernel and X.Org, including 3D. |
| 15:13.29 | Hiruko | Alrighty |
| 15:13.33 | Hiruko | I may just keep using the 2.4 kernel for now |
| 15:13.36 | redneck | Guerin: still here? |
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| 15:13.41 | Hiruko | Then the only thing that doesn't work is acpi |
| 15:13.45 | black_Nightmare | just wondering but....could one kinda set up debian so it could kinda resemble windows in some place? like the system tray (together with quicklauncher) to start with |
| 15:13.45 | Hiruko | Thanks for your help :) |
| 15:13.48 | Guerin | redneck: hot damn yeahp |
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| 15:14.02 | yaccobb | drac, thank goddess;) |
| 15:14.06 | _paul | Hiruko: Did I help? |
| 15:14.10 | Hiruko | yeah :) |
| 15:14.18 | Hiruko | You gave me some things to look into |
| 15:14.23 | Guerin | resiak: teleport --without-error Oxford |
| 15:14.37 | redneck | where to find the fuc*ing sources.list for a stable debian install? |
| 15:14.40 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: google for xpde (is that it?) |
| 15:14.51 | resiak | Guerin: I bloody wish. At least my laptop's battery is good enough for the entire coach journey. |
| 15:14.55 | fuzzy | i can fetch from ftp? |
| 15:14.56 | resiak | redneck: run apt-setup |
| 15:14.56 | Guerin | 00:06:36 < Guerin> redneck: apt-setup |
| 15:14.58 | fuzzy | cant |
| 15:15.02 | kokkoo | anyone got a working example of mrtg running? and share their cfg ? |
| 15:15.09 | VerusMaya | would anyone happen to have any idea why these upgraded version modules I compiled aren't loaded, but rather the old ones? |
| 15:15.17 | Guerin | resiak: i've spend 9 hours of the past 36 on buses |
| 15:15.24 | FieldySnuts | mrtg sucks use cacti, though be sure you've got the latest version |
| 15:15.25 | _paul | Hiruko: What about a modinfo on the sound driver, one of my computers has driver options for fault motherboards? |
| 15:15.25 | Guerin | :( |
| 15:15.41 | Hiruko | Hmm the thing is though that it just worked |
| 15:15.46 | Hiruko | like a few minutes ago |
| 15:15.46 | kokkoo | FieldySnuts : catcti ? url ? |
| 15:15.47 | resiak | Guerin: Bugger. I spent about 1/3 of a week on transport while I was abroad :(( |
| 15:15.51 | Hiruko | Then i reboot and it doesn't oO |
| 15:15.57 | Hiruko | Let's see if it works when i boot into 2.4 |
| 15:15.58 | Hiruko | brb |
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| 15:16.11 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: asl? |
| 15:16.11 | dpkg | fieldysnuts, American Sign Language isn't very useful on Internet Relay Chat Old enough, Yes please, My place. above sea level |
| 15:16.13 | Guerin | resiak: i've also been reading about 39-hour train rides across kazakhstan |
| 15:16.24 | redneck | 2.4 works always well |
| 15:16.32 | xirtam_ | how can i prevent a dist-upgrade to install xserver-xorg ... ? |
| 15:16.33 | FieldySnuts | ouch |
| 15:16.42 | Guerin | resiak: and things like Herat -> Mazar-e-Sharif, 4 days by LandCruiser |
| 15:16.50 | resiak | FieldySnuts: Why do you always dpkg: rather than ! ? |
| 15:16.55 | fuzzy | failed to access the debian archive... |
| 15:16.58 | FieldySnuts | resiak: little less irritating |
| 15:17.00 | stew | xirtam_: put xserver-xfree86 on hold |
| 15:17.05 | resiak | FieldySnuts: wenas ? |
| 15:17.08 | FieldySnuts | fuzzy: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:17.14 | xirtam_ | stew: how do i do that? |
| 15:17.22 | resiak | Guerin: :O Rather you than me, mate. |
| 15:17.23 | stew | xirtam_: /msg dpkg hold |
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| 15:17.35 | resiak | *pouff* |
| 15:17.40 | fuzzy | FieldySnuts: apt-get |
| 15:17.45 | black_Nightmare | xpde.....this right? http://www.xpde.com/ |
| 15:18.07 | fuzzy | FieldySnuts: but i can't connect somehw..but i can ping :S |
| 15:18.08 | vladster | does anyone have a link to the new testing net install iso? |
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| 15:18.20 | black_Nightmare | rbochan is that it? |
| 15:18.22 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: yes, but why anyone would want that butt ugly thing is a mystery |
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| 15:18.35 | netman1 | vladster: people.debian.org/~joey/d-i |
| 15:18.56 | netman1 | vladster : sorry, s/joey/joeyh/g |
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| 15:19.24 | black_Nightmare | rbochan..lets just say -- try convience average home users to use linux instead (hoping they can get used to not having IE/OE too that is) |
| 15:19.39 | FieldySnuts | eh, why bother |
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| 15:19.47 | black_Nightmare | field..its a game character name .. 'Nightmare' was already taken so I added 'black_' ... its supposed to be a black evil horse |
| 15:19.57 | FieldySnuts | righto mate |
| 15:20.07 | stew | vladster: its been breaking a lot lately, don't know what its current state is, you might be happier installing sarge and dist-upgrading |
| 15:20.19 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: I do that almost every day with KDE |
| 15:20.23 | Guerin | can someone explain to me why people are obsessed with blackness and darkness and shadows and evilness? |
| 15:20.26 | Guerin | like |
| 15:20.33 | Guerin | why not call yourself pink_nightmare |
| 15:20.36 | yaccobb | umm, xserver-xorg package cannot be found in my repository (http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/)... |
| 15:20.37 | vladster | IO need the 2.6.12 kernel |
| 15:20.39 | findme | is there a vmware equivalent for debian? |
| 15:20.41 | xirtam_ | thx |
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| 15:20.42 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: they probably saw their favorite kiddie punk band member doing it or something |
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| 15:20.44 | Guerin | i think pink is much scarier than blacj |
| 15:20.49 | tzafrir | findme, qemu |
| 15:20.56 | findme | tzafrir, thanks |
| 15:21.06 | vladster | I tried to use it with sarge and boom went my video |
| 15:21.11 | tzafrir | not equivalent performance-wise, but nice |
| 15:21.12 | black_Nightmare | rbochan....heh ok....its just that I thought.."if linux looks like winxp then surely even a family that used to use windows has to be able to use this linux easily" |
| 15:21.21 | black_Nightmare | thats what I was thinking |
| 15:21.21 | rbochan | that's a crock |
| 15:21.22 | FieldySnuts | wtf? you're mad. |
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| 15:21.33 | FieldySnuts | you don't force someone into using something, that's just crazy |
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| 15:21.39 | puce_Wetdream | hmmm |
| 15:21.40 | black_Nightmare | guerin.. Nightmare is supposed to be black (save dark gray mane) |
| 15:22.02 | Guerin | black_Nightmare: so? Show a bit of fucking individuality. |
| 15:22.08 | yaccobb | aren't debian repositories updated globaly ? |
| 15:22.09 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: i just found his ident interesting... |
| 15:22.30 | Guerin | yaccobb: by rsync, so not all at the exact same time |
| 15:22.41 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: keep in mind that it's also not a Debian suported pacakge, so you're on your own with support |
| 15:22.44 | v0L7r[-]n | I can even use rpm's in Debian |
| 15:22.51 | FieldySnuts | v0L7r[-]n: trollign again? |
| 15:23.01 | v0L7r[-]n | fuck off |
| 15:23.02 | vladster | I am in a qundry and i do not feel like going the Gentoo route again |
| 15:23.02 | rbochan | My cat Mittens likes milk |
| 15:23.04 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 15:23.11 | yaccobb | Guerin, and how long does it take to update all of them ? |
| 15:23.12 | V0ld3mortX0r | see, now i can be a tard, too! |
| 15:23.14 | FieldySnuts | apt: nickometer V0ld3mortX0r |
| 15:23.17 | black_Nightmare | rbochan...well..as long as I can get internet browser and a good audio player working I'll be fine ... hmm I should see if theres a channel for xpde somewhere |
| 15:23.21 | FieldySnuts | yikes |
| 15:23.22 | V0ld3mortX0r | yaccobb: as long as it takes, usually |
| 15:23.23 | black_Nightmare | brb |
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| 15:24.01 | FieldySnuts | v0L7r[-]n: yeah. you answered my question for me thanks |
| 15:24.02 | v0L7r[-]n | Debian is ten times better then FC or mandrake |
| 15:24.06 | pablum | I didn't know... |
| 15:24.06 | FieldySnuts | see? |
| 15:24.11 | FieldySnuts | anyway brb food! |
| 15:24.28 | SDFH_Linux | i used to run mandrake |
| 15:24.33 | black_Nightmare | lol jeeze.. the site says its #xpde on this channel but when I check this channel is empty |
| 15:24.37 | black_Nightmare | bah |
| 15:24.38 | SDFH_Linux | the key word in that sentence is used to |
| 15:24.49 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: that should tell you plenty |
| 15:24.52 | v0L7r[-]n | Debian offers way more strategy |
| 15:24.57 | V0ld3mortX0r | black_Nightmare: hint: don't use things that aren't supported. |
| 15:25.01 | pablum | heh, 0% lameness |
| 15:25.01 | SDFH_Linux | debian runs a lot more stable |
| 15:25.03 | v0L7r[-]n | way more fun |
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| 15:25.13 | V0ld3mortX0r | v0L7r[-]n: you mean way more infrastructure |
| 15:25.18 | SDFH_Linux | i would get crashes with the programs in mandrake |
| 15:25.27 | SDFH_Linux | overall it was slower too |
| 15:25.29 | v0L7r[-]n | fucken rights man |
| 15:25.32 | FieldySnuts | SDFH_Linux: typical of mandrake or other rpm based systems |
| 15:25.37 | dontpanic | I am tring to to get the latest kernel version. I am using apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.12.2 |
| 15:25.45 | rbochan | SDFH_Linux: and you will in Debian too eventually |
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| 15:25.59 | SDFH_Linux | really why? |
| 15:26.02 | dontpanic | but it tells me it can not be found |
| 15:26.06 | cyzie1 | resiak, after install laptop-net, i cant connect to my other computer. |
| 15:26.08 | v0L7r[-]n | I'm burning my windows system |
| 15:26.09 | rbochan | because no software is without bugs |
| 15:26.13 | SDFH_Linux | k |
| 15:26.16 | ke6isf | dontpanic: What Deb version are you using? |
| 15:26.16 | V0ld3mortX0r | dontpanic: making up package names typically yields that effect, yeah |
| 15:26.18 | v0L7r[-]n | I don't need it anymore |
| 15:26.18 | black_Nightmare | looks like current xpde is dated 2005/02/06 .. hmm..is that feburary or june? |
| 15:26.23 | rbochan | dontpanic: parhaps that's because it's not in an apt repository? |
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| 15:26.42 | FieldySnuts | kittenbot: what are you? |
| 15:26.46 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 15:26.48 | SDFH_Linux | black_Nightmare you found a deb repos of xpde? |
| 15:27.01 | dontpanic | Kesist: sarge |
| 15:27.04 | black_Nightmare | sdfh....no....the date is from the xpde site itself |
| 15:27.06 | tzafrir | http://apt-get.org |
| 15:27.11 | _paul | black_Nightmare: Just use 'alien' |
| 15:27.20 | SDFH_Linux | anyone found a deb repos of xpde? |
| 15:27.23 | black_Nightmare | not to sound dumb...what is that _paul? |
| 15:27.29 | FieldySnuts | you don't wanna use rpms period even after conversion |
| 15:27.33 | dontpanic | rbochman: that is what I was thinking |
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| 15:27.37 | kittenbot | *mew* |
| 15:27.48 | _paul | black_Nightmare: alien converts .rpm to .deb |
| 15:27.55 | V0ld3mortX0r | !tell dontpanic about search |
| 15:27.56 | cahoot | dontpanic: last time I looked 2.6.11-7 was the latest - bug waitng for resolution |
| 15:27.56 | FieldySnuts | :(* just playing |
| 15:28.01 | black_Nightmare | _paul...oh ic |
| 15:28.11 | ke6isf | dontpanic: Do 'apt-cache search kernel-tree' or 'apt-cache search kernel-image' for the source tree or just a straight up install. Latest I believe is 2.6.8. |
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| 15:28.36 | V0ld3mortX0r | dontpanic: /nick dontmakeuprandompackagenamesthenwhineaboutthemon#debian |
| 15:28.48 | FieldySnuts | feh |
| 15:29.20 | yaccobb | is there some way to remove library packages with no depedencies on them ? |
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| 15:29.27 | Liudy | join #debian |
| 15:29.30 | ke6isf | deborphan |
| 15:29.35 | V0ld3mortX0r | yaccobb: debfoster, deborphan |
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| 15:29.43 | ke6isf | lindy: good job. =^^= |
| 15:29.59 | _paul | Liudy: It worked |
| 15:30.06 | black_Nightmare | sdfh..I checked.. debian package list has no xpde in it :/ |
| 15:30.24 | yaccobb | V0ld3mortX0r, thanks |
| 15:30.27 | V0ld3mortX0r | !ma |
| 15:30.27 | dpkg | i heard ma is milliampere(s). Morocco |
| 15:30.34 | black_Nightmare | well one quick question |
| 15:30.35 | _paul | black_Nightmare: Better report a bug then... |
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| 15:30.57 | V0ld3mortX0r | _paul: why? it might not bepackaged because nobody wants to support it because it's a buggy POS |
| 15:31.07 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: I'd be willing to guess that there's some lame-ass winders theme on kde-look.org |
| 15:31.14 | V0ld3mortX0r | gravity: it'd be great if it wasn't completely fucked |
| 15:31.20 | SDFH_Linux | gravity its a gui that looks just like xp |
| 15:31.23 | gravity | V0ld3mortX0r: Oh, that bad huh? |
| 15:31.27 | gravity | ew.... |
| 15:31.35 | _paul | V0ld3mortX0r: Everyone like Windows XP |
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| 15:31.41 | gravity | Heh... "The alt+tab feature in action" |
| 15:31.45 | V0ld3mortX0r | gravity: apparently... i haven't used it, just read about it. |
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| 15:31.53 | V0ld3mortX0r | _paul: that is demonstrably false. |
| 15:31.56 | black_Nightmare | I haven't tried debian yet (family pc seem to have some kind of lock, can't get to its ***ing bios to set to boot from cd first!) but could debian be set up with a 'shutdown' command and 'programs' folder in a quick minimick of windows os? |
| 15:32.17 | gravity | wtf is this? KDE with a WinXP theme? |
| 15:32.20 | V0ld3mortX0r | black_Nightmare: anything's possible |
| 15:32.30 | rbochan | gravity: bascially, yes |
| 15:32.33 | gravity | Dear lord |
| 15:32.41 | SDFH_Linux | looks just like xp |
| 15:32.44 | V0ld3mortX0r | gravity: i think it's built half from scratch, with a bunch of new apps etc. |
| 15:32.45 | rbochan | gravity: but it's 'l33t! |
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| 15:32.48 | bedboi | hi there |
| 15:33.08 | gravity | HAHAHAHAHAHA He wrote it in Kylix! |
| 15:33.24 | _paul | bedboi: Hi |
| 15:33.26 | ambrose | What's the difference between "kernel-source" and "kernel-tree" packages? |
| 15:33.26 | tarzeau | gravity: xpde? yeah only for i386 |
| 15:33.31 | SDFH_Linux | whats Kylix? |
| 15:33.32 | V0ld3mortX0r | !kylix |
| 15:33.32 | dpkg | from memory, kylix is at http://www.borland.com/kylix/ |
| 15:33.38 | V0ld3mortX0r | omfglol |
| 15:33.40 | V0ld3mortX0r | borland |
| 15:33.41 | bedboi | is it known that mozilla-firefox is broken in SID? |
| 15:33.48 | tarzeau | dpkg kylix is also not portable |
| 15:33.48 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 15:33.52 | black_Nightmare | v0ld...ok ty....if it can past a simple test in where an user is able to click a lower-left corner icon and move to 'programs' then select a program .. they passed the moving-from-winxp-to-linux test :p |
| 15:33.57 | rbochan | bedboi: no it is not |
| 15:33.59 | black_Nightmare | just a bit humor of my own there ^ hehe |
| 15:34.09 | gravity | Meh... hopefully the author is at least having fun |
| 15:34.11 | SDFH_Linux | i have mozilla 1.0.5 installed since yesterday no problem |
| 15:34.23 | VerusMaya | gah... I can't get my new compiled modules for 2.6.11-1-686-smp to load by default... system keeps on loading the previous versions, which puzzles me because I believe I overwrote them and can find no reference of where the system may be loading them from... |
| 15:34.26 | gravity | bedboi: It works for me, and it's sid, not SID |
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| 15:34.28 | bedboi | rbochan: well. it crashed a lot |
| 15:34.34 | bedboi | ok sid |
| 15:34.47 | gensmashr | !ops (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA and anal sex! |
| 15:34.47 | gensmashr | @ops (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA and anal sex! |
| 15:34.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA ... |
| 15:34.48 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit ... |
| 15:34.50 | gravlty | ~ops (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA and anal sex! |
| 15:34.50 | apt | that's too long, gravlty |
| 15:35.07 | _paul | black_Nightmare: What about just displaying the BSOD |
| 15:35.12 | V0ld3mortX0r | wtf |
| 15:35.13 | rbochan | bedboi: temporarily rename your ~.mozilla/firefox directory and see if the behaviour continues |
| 15:35.24 | black_Nightmare | _paul I don't think thats even needed at all |
| 15:35.42 | gravity | ]Cute |
| 15:35.55 | bedboi | rbochan: no. it dies. |
| 15:36.06 | bedboi | rbochan: http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=1591 i.e. |
| 15:36.21 | black_Nightmare | someone correct me if I'm wrong but... |
| 15:36.23 | bedboi | but it crashes on 99% of the pages i try to visit |
| 15:36.31 | rbochan | why would I be in a debian channel and reading a zdnet blog? |
| 15:36.46 | Guerin | bedboi: move ~/.mozilla/firefox elsewhere |
| 15:36.48 | black_Nightmare | ms officexp & ms viso = similar to koffice |
| 15:36.57 | bedboi | "Apache falls victim to OASIS patent shelter" |
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| 15:37.01 | black_Nightmare | rbochan..no idea :p |
| 15:37.06 | bedboi | rbochan: that's the article i would like to read |
| 15:37.16 | rbochan | cripes, why would anyone be reading a friggen zdnet blog |
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| 15:37.37 | bedboi | Guerin: i tried to do that... i renamed ~/.mozilla/firefox to ~/.mozilla/firecox |
| 15:37.41 | bedboi | btw same stuff happens |
| 15:37.42 | gravlty | [G][N][A][A] is looking for trolls to participate in the upcoming actions against #debian and #gentoo! JOIN TODAY! ASK JESUITX OR TIMECOP OR DCOM_ ABOUT JOINING US! You do NOT need to be a member of the GNAA. Fuck yous: gravity Phated abrotman mwilson dondelecaro paster Gnea |
| 15:37.55 | dontpanic | Thanks for the help |
| 15:37.58 | gravity | Yay. I am teh loved. |
| 15:38.05 | FieldySnuts | apparently |
| 15:38.12 | stew | gravity: right up there with paster |
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| 15:38.17 | SDFH_Linux | what is all of that? |
| 15:38.22 | Guerin | !ops 202.83.78.17 needs a permaban |
| 15:38.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: 202.83.78.17 needs a permaban |
| 15:38.23 | FieldySnuts | haha they included a bot (paster), dumbshits |
| 15:38.26 | gravity | SDFH_Linux: Just an asshole. |
| 15:38.33 | SDFH_Linux | k |
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| 15:38.46 | black_Nightmare | anyone? (just curious) |
| 15:38.47 | rapsys | hy |
| 15:38.53 | stew | SDFH_Linux: gnaa on wikipedia |
| 15:38.57 | rapsys | i am looking for a tuto |
| 15:39.08 | FieldySnuts | rapsys: um? |
| 15:39.10 | rapsys | how to rebuild a package under debian |
| 15:39.10 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: install them and decide for yourself |
| 15:39.12 | beardy | I don't understand what they want.. |
| 15:39.12 | shingouz | rapsys: just ask |
| 15:39.18 | black_Nightmare | rbochan..hm true |
| 15:39.24 | rapsys | I need to rebuild the dpkg package |
| 15:39.32 | Guerin | rapsys: no, you don't |
| 15:39.36 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
| 15:39.36 | Guerin | you might think you need to |
| 15:39.37 | rapsys | because start-stop-daemon has a bug |
| 15:39.41 | Guerin | but you absolutely do not. |
| 15:39.42 | FieldySnuts | !lart rapsys |
| 15:39.50 | rbochan | bedboi: I, and it seems no one else, is having trouble with firefox.. what version are you running? |
| 15:39.51 | rapsys | I need it |
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| 15:40.05 | bedboi | 1.0.5-1 |
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| 15:40.12 | black_Nightmare | just wondering but anyone have had any experience with this? 'Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2' |
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| 15:40.35 | rapsys | If i do this : start-stop-daemon --start --chroot /var/lib/chroot/dangerous -c dangerous:nogroup --exec /bin/dangerous |
| 15:40.40 | Guerin | bedboi: so strace it and file a bug, see what makes it go crashy |
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| 15:40.50 | FieldySnuts | rapsys: what the hell? |
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| 15:41.03 | rapsys | this stupid start-stop-daemon check for /bin/dangerous in the real tree instead of the chrooted one |
| 15:41.03 | beardy | black_Nightmare: Don't poll, ask the question if you have one. |
| 15:41.03 | Guerin | rapsys: so what does dpkg have to do with start-stop-daemon? |
| 15:41.09 | rbochan | Guerin: perhaps it auto-crashes when attempting to connect to a friggen zdnet blog? ;) |
| 15:41.14 | Haxson | Is it possible (and reasonably safe) to repartition to remove the /boot partition and move the boot stuff to /, or should I consider a complete reinstall? |
| 15:41.19 | rapsys | it's dpkg that provides start-stop-daemon |
| 15:41.23 | Guerin | rapsys: heh |
| 15:41.25 | pablum | An insidious one: it /joins, waits awhile, changes its name to something similar to an active name (a couople times) then cycles through a few of those while having the bots echo the text (using !ops and @ops), then quits. |
| 15:41.41 | FieldySnuts | rapsys: haha |
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| 15:41.53 | rapsys | dpkg --listfiles dpkg | grep start-stop-daemon |
| 15:41.56 | FieldySnuts | troll |
| 15:41.56 | black_Nightmare | beardy..I already just asked the question :-) |
| 15:42.04 | Guerin | rapsys: oh. in that case, you need to file a bug against dpkg. |
| 15:42.12 | rapsys | I did it |
| 15:42.18 | Guerin | rapsys: did what? |
| 15:42.49 | rapsys | I mail the dpkg respondible and the one that first write in c the start-stop-daemon.c |
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| 15:43.03 | rapsys | and the dpkg-team |
| 15:43.04 | Guerin | rapsys: wtf |
| 15:43.04 | mercurus | YES ! |
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| 15:43.11 | Guerin | that's not how you file a bug in debian |
| 15:43.12 | rapesys | !ops (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA and anal sex! |
| 15:43.12 | rapesys | @ops (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA and anal sex! |
| 15:43.13 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit ... |
| 15:43.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA ... |
| 15:43.14 | mercurus | I found the breaker package ! |
| 15:43.22 | stew | Haxson: its both possible and safe |
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| 15:43.23 | Guerin | !tell rapsys about bts |
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| 15:43.26 | V0Id3mortX0r | ~ops (G)(N)(A)(A) Did you know jews did wtc: http://jews.didwtc.com/ . For all you mac users: http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg Are you GAY? are you a NIGGER? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA wants you! Visit http://www.gnaa.us/ or #gnaa on irc.gnaa.us ! Join Today! Helix loves the GNAA and anal sex! |
| 15:43.27 | apt | that's too long, V0Id3mortX0r |
| 15:43.27 | V0Id3mortX0r | [G][N][A][A] is looking for trolls to participate in the upcoming actions against #debian and #gentoo! JOIN TODAY! ASK JESUITX OR TIMECOP OR DCOM_ ABOUT JOINING US! You do NOT need to be a member of the GNAA. Fuck yous: gravity Phated abrotman mwilson dondelecaro paster Gnea |
| 15:43.28 | rapsys | debian-dpkg@.....org |
| 15:43.44 | Guerin | !ops where the FUCK are you |
| 15:43.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: where the FUCK are you |
| 15:43.48 | FieldySnuts | no shit |
| 15:43.54 | bodgey | oh god, the x.org transition in debian was posted on slashdot |
| 15:43.58 | bykte- | what happenning? |
| 15:43.59 | dream | Hello. |
| 15:44.09 | dream | Hello,every one. |
| 15:44.12 | TBBle | And what'd the slashtrolls think? |
| 15:44.13 | FieldySnuts | hi |
| 15:44.15 | rbochan | bodgey: what do you think attracted the gnaa shit? |
| 15:44.26 | FieldySnuts | rbochan: interesting point |
| 15:44.34 | rapsys | someone could slap V0Id3mortX0r so we could speak |
| 15:44.35 | rapsys | ? |
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| 15:44.42 | FieldySnuts | he's not here |
| 15:44.45 | dream | Do you know? How use wu bi in Debian. |
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| 15:44.50 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@202.83.78.17] by dondelelcaro |
| 15:44.52 | FieldySnuts | dream: do what? |
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| 15:45.07 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: cheers :) |
| 15:45.08 | seldon | What _is_ this gnaa thing, anyway? |
| 15:45.12 | dream | Chinese input methor. |
| 15:45.12 | Guerin | seldon: fgi |
| 15:45.13 | dondelelcaro | who cares? |
| 15:45.18 | rbochan | bedboi: I just updated to that package and can view the friggen zdnet blog (blechhh) just fine |
| 15:45.33 | FieldySnuts | wikipedia has info if you really care.. which you shouldn't. |
| 15:45.36 | Haxson | Thanks. What's the best way to do it? Boot with Knoppix, move the files in /Boot and repartition? Is there some advice somewhere on the web? I searched but found nothing... |
| 15:45.39 | rapsys | do you think that the dpkg will be upgraded in the sarge for such bug ? |
| 15:45.42 | Guerin | rapsys: please /msg dpkg bts and follow the instructions on filing a bug. Also apt-get install reportbug |
| 15:45.51 | dream | Sorry ,My englisth is very bad... |
| 15:45.52 | FieldySnuts | rapsys: you are a troll. |
| 15:45.58 | Guerin | rapsys: depends if it's a valid security concern |
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| 15:46.18 | rapsys | I use mandriva and I don't hide it |
| 15:46.23 | FieldySnuts | heh. |
| 15:46.24 | Guerin | bah |
| 15:46.31 | rapsys | it's not a security concern |
| 15:46.32 | Guerin | rapsys: so this isn't a fucking debian issue? |
| 15:46.38 | FieldySnuts | sod off |
| 15:46.41 | rapsys | it is... |
| 15:46.50 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: you got trolled |
| 15:46.54 | concept10 | I dont hide it, lol |
| 15:46.54 | dondelelcaro | rapsys: then file a bug with a specifc use case. Otherwise, go elsewhere. |
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| 15:47.14 | rapsys | it's not a security issue if you consider that you need to replace the binary with a self conpiled one to run chroot correctly... |
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| 15:47.22 | FieldySnuts | what the hell are you talking about? |
| 15:47.26 | Guerin | rapsys: and 'file a bug' does not mean 'email some random people from the changelog' |
| 15:47.38 | rapsys | where is the bugzilla ? |
| 15:47.56 | Guerin | rapsys: /topic; /msg dpkg bts |
| 15:47.56 | dondelelcaro | !tell rapsys about reportbug |
| 15:47.59 | Guerin | christ |
| 15:48.14 | FieldySnuts | he's not using debian so it doesn't matter |
| 15:48.14 | ThePiratemaster | whats the meaning of life? |
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| 15:48.18 | rbochan | hurray for sunday! |
| 15:48.20 | FieldySnuts | ThePiratemaster: 42 |
| 15:48.23 | ThePiratemaster | tnx |
| 15:48.24 | Guerin | ThePiratemaster: 69 |
| 15:48.27 | FieldySnuts | .. |
| 15:48.37 | bykte- | !about reportbug |
| 15:48.49 | bykte- | dpkg bts |
| 15:48.49 | dpkg | it has been said that bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 15:48.54 | Guerin | wow, #debian is too stupid for me right now |
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| 15:49.01 | dondelelcaro | bykte-: /msg the bot please. |
| 15:49.04 | bykte- | ok |
| 15:49.05 | bykte- | sorry |
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| 15:49.22 | sharyari | hello |
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| 15:49.39 | sharyari | how do I install a .deb file? |
| 15:49.46 | stew | sharyari: man dpkg |
| 15:49.49 | rbochan | sharyari : clicky clicky... http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html |
| 15:50.47 | concept10 | damn I wish I had a cigar |
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| 15:51.06 | rbochan | gonna go far? |
| 15:51.21 | sharyari | thanks |
| 15:51.37 | nicolas22 | I'm having a problem with Debian 3.1r0 + KDE 3.3 running veeeeryyyy slow when i am connected to internet. I have a dial up connection so it is not all the time. The problem appears when I try to lunch some apps(like amaroK, k3b and some others), they take a lot to lunch, minutes even. But when i am offline they lunch i no more than 5secs. I tried to search in google but i found no answers. I dont think the problem is in pppd because if i do a top i see |
| 15:51.48 | rbochan | ShaiW: what your nick needs is more underscores ;p |
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| 15:52.19 | dondelelcaro | nicolas22: I would almost guess that you're having some sort of issue with name resolution of your hostname. |
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| 15:53.33 | jetx | hey how do i tell dpkg or whatever the dependency list is, that libaspell15c2 supplies libaspell15. |
| 15:53.41 | Falkom | hi my friends! |
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| 15:54.05 | xoz | nicolas22: check /etc/resolv.conf ... or route |
| 15:54.11 | Falkom | I look for a expert debian manual, please. Could you say me any? |
| 15:54.14 | doub | jetx: download the source for libaspell15 |
| 15:54.28 | doub | jetx: and modify the debian/control file accordingly |
| 15:54.30 | nicolas22 | dondelelcaro: ok, i would check my hosts, resolv.conf, etc... but i must say that it is not with all the apps just a few ones, especially the ones integrated with kde! could it be? |
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| 15:55.01 | jetx | doub: you mean the c2 one, the newer version, the one i want to function? |
| 15:55.03 | Haxson | Trying again... Re: Repartition to ditch /Boot partition: What's the best way to do it? Boot with Knoppix, move the files in /Boot and repartition? Is there some advice somewhere on the web? I searched but found nothing... |
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| 15:55.12 | TBBle | jetx: Umm. libapsell15c2 doesn't supply libaspell15. Or it shouldn't, assuming mistakes have not been made. |
| 15:55.14 | doub | jetx: yes |
| 15:55.26 | rapsys | One other thing I would know |
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| 15:55.43 | rapsys | why does or doesn't a library be in 755 mode ? |
| 15:56.09 | streuner | Haxson: war are trying to do? |
| 15:56.19 | jetx | TBBle: actuall, it(dpkg) says libaspell15c2 REPLACES libaspell15, but the dependencies don't seem to work properly(like blah.v2 supplies blah.v1) |
| 15:56.19 | streuner | Haxson: s/war/What/ |
| 15:56.24 | doub | rapsys: no need for it to be executable, just readable by who has to use it |
| 15:56.25 | rapsys | I have make my chroot works with only ld-linux.so.2 in 555 mode and other in 444 |
| 15:56.57 | Haxson | My /Boot partition turned out to be too small, so I thought I'd just get rid of it and make / bootable instead... |
| 15:56.59 | TBBle | jetx: That's beacuse libaspell15c2 does _not_ supply libaspell15. They whole point of the name change is that programs that work with the former won't work with the latter, and vice versa. |
| 15:57.11 | rapsys | then I just ask me why are they in 755 in /usr/lib ? |
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| 15:57.32 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: tell rapsys -about smart questions |
| 15:57.38 | jetx | TBBle: ok, i don't understand how something that replaces something doesn't provide that something's function, but ok... :/ |
| 15:58.00 | sleepynat | exit |
| 15:58.12 | shingouz | Haxson: maybe this is not relevant but it is /boot, not /Boot |
| 15:58.13 | shingouz | , |
| 15:58.13 | streuner | Haxson: backup the data? |
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| 15:58.36 | TBBle | jetx: "Replaces" in the dpkg context means "Is able to overwrite the files of", not "is sufficient to fufill the function of". "Provides" means that. |
| 15:58.41 | jetx | <S>treuner---> |
| 15:58.43 | nickv111 | Hmm |
| 15:58.56 | jetx | ahh TBBle |
| 15:58.57 | nickv111 | I'm having a bit of a problem... I'm trying to get an encrypted /home |
| 15:58.59 | Haxson | Yes, backup is essential... I know that. |
| 15:59.10 | jetx | not very linear though :/ |
| 15:59.11 | streuner | Haxson: ok, look at qt(parted) |
| 15:59.22 | black_Nightmare | any of you know a bit about Wine? |
| 15:59.34 | doub | rapsys: no lib has to be executed. if your /usr/lib is full of 755 lib<something>.so (regular files), it's because of some black magic |
| 15:59.35 | jetx | bond likes wine |
| 15:59.46 | stew | Haxson: mkdir /newboot ; cp -r /boot/* /newboot/ ; umount /boot ; rmdir /boot ; mv /newboot /boot; then reinstall grub with grub-install ; and update-grub |
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| 15:59.53 | nickv111 | However, I need to mount my memory stick in order to get the key, and /etc/init.d/cryptdisks runs before the system mounts filesystems. |
| 15:59.59 | stew | Haxson: and remove /boot from fstab |
| 16:00.08 | TBBle | jetx: Specifically, libaspell15c2 and libaspell15 are the same library, built with incompatible C++ binary interfaces. (cf gcc/g++ 4.0 in topic) |
| 16:00.12 | black_Nightmare | I was just wondering...does adobe photoshop5LE or elements2 work with wine or thats out of the question? :-) |
| 16:00.29 | FieldySnuts | ask #wine or something? |
| 16:00.31 | nickv111 | So... How can I mount my memory stick before /etc/init.d/cryptdisks runs? |
| 16:00.34 | rapsys | doub: black magic ? I don't understand it |
| 16:00.39 | debianman | Did you know? #debian has several undercover GNAA spies. abrotman, Phated, paster, helix, jewsdidwtc. If you don't beleive me, head to http://spies.on.nimp.org/gnaa-list-freenode.txt. |
| 16:00.40 | Haxson | Using lilo now... |
| 16:00.44 | dondeIelcaro | Heh once upon a time I hung this white cracker honkey in my back yard. She was a hot little whore, and we stuck our huge nigger phallii into her every oriface. I think we tore her shit ring. Anyway! Good fun was had by all, as nigger sperm and anal blood was used for lube when we fucked her ear. Then we stabbed her flabby white leg, and used the gaping wound as an artificial pussy. |
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| 16:00.46 | TBBle | black_Nightmare: Wine maintains a appdb, you could check there. |
| 16:00.51 | Iilo | Once white bitches get the black dick, they never go back. I constantly steal women from white men all the time. You see, honkeys, your women want you to take control, stick your penis in their asses, and make them scream like banshees!! So they come to us, and we shove 14" long and 3" wide nigger dicks up their anus, and make them lick the debris off and swallow the brown cum. Haha, stupid white boys. |
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| 16:01.03 | doub | rapsys: it's an unusual situation, which is not the result of normal operation |
| 16:01.07 | jetx | lol |
| 16:01.15 | doub | rapsys: and even more than that, useless |
| 16:01.23 | jetx | !dondelelcaro++ |
| 16:01.25 | black_Nightmare | tbble....stupid question..what is an appdb? lol |
| 16:01.40 | streuner | dondelelcaro: haha |
| 16:01.42 | TBBle | black_Nightmare: Application database. Try appdb.winehq.com, but that's just a guess. |
| 16:01.48 | black_Nightmare | ohh...ty |
| 16:01.57 | rapsys | libc-x.x.x.so is in 755 mod in /lib and I didn't touch it |
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| 16:02.14 | rbochan | black_Nightmare: also google for "frank's corner" |
| 16:02.17 | rapsys | is it the case on your box ? |
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| 16:02.39 | TBBle | rapsys: That's right. libc is executable. Try runninng it. |
| 16:02.55 | Zibar | i just installed debian base system ... i want kde, apt-get install kde ? this sounds a bit to easy .... :) |
| 16:02.57 | rapsys | it will not crash my system ? |
| 16:03.02 | jetx | where can i get a functional libaspell15 then (pdo didn't work) |
| 16:03.05 | stew | Haxson: then just re-run lilo |
| 16:03.08 | rbochan | Zibar: it is that easy |
| 16:03.12 | Zibar | ooh |
| 16:03.14 | Zibar | neat |
| 16:03.17 | TBBle | rapsys: Yes, it will not crash your system. |
| 16:03.17 | black_Nightmare | lol looks like Dragon Naturally Speaking works under wine .. my father may like that hehehe |
| 16:03.23 | doub | jetx: use etch |
| 16:03.26 | j4cbo | Zibar: you probably want kde-base |
| 16:03.30 | TBBle | jetx: There should still be a functional libaspell15 in Debian... |
| 16:03.33 | jetx | testing ugh |
| 16:03.43 | Haxson | Assuming I need to make / bootable too... |
| 16:03.47 | TBBle | Oh, guess not. |
| 16:03.49 | Zibar | so i hear that nowadays its not xfree but xorg or something thats hot ... will this be installed by default ? |
| 16:03.50 | rapsys | it show some version info and so on |
| 16:03.52 | j4cbo | the kde package will install everything remotely kde-related |
| 16:03.53 | FieldySnuts | rapsys isn't even using debian folks, so please quit spending your time on him |
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| 16:04.01 | dondelelcaro | Zibar: eventually, yes. |
| 16:04.03 | TBBle | rapsys: See? That wasn't so bad now was it? ^_^ |
| 16:04.04 | jetx | TBBle: yeah i had one, then i low level formatted cuz i was bored |
| 16:04.06 | stew | j4cbo: what is wrong with libaspell15 in sarge? |
| 16:04.08 | Zibar | ok thanks |
| 16:04.09 | stew | err jetx |
| 16:04.19 | rapsys | FieldySnuts: I use it, only on my dedicated server |
| 16:04.30 | FieldySnuts | yeah suddenly now you do. right. |
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| 16:04.40 | rapsys | and it's a hell to secure it realy... |
| 16:04.43 | TBBle | jetx: Then you're gonna have to grab the etch one. It's out of Debian, because the source package has been reuploaded. The expectation is that those who still need it will not remove it during the transition. |
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| 16:04.48 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@102.23.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 16:04.48 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 16:05.05 | jetx | stew: libaspell15 is not available, however it has been replaced by another package... (quote from apt-get install) <--stew |
| 16:05.19 | stew | jetx: oh you are on sid? |
| 16:05.23 | jetx | ya |
| 16:05.25 | TBBle | jetx: Alternatively, recompile the program you're using that needs libaspell15 with gcc-4 against libaspell15c2, assuming there's no other C++ libraries that haven't transitioned yet. |
| 16:05.36 | rbochan | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 16:05.44 | TBBle | jetx: For more details, see debian-devel-announce. |
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| 16:06.51 | jetx | TBBle: sounds like i'll be waiting on the maintainers then |
| 16:06.55 | jetx | :/ |
| 16:07.08 | doub | jetx: or use etch instead |
| 16:07.15 | jetx | it fuxors bittorrent!!! :( |
| 16:07.18 | jetx | -gui |
| 16:07.18 | streuner | dondelelcaro: what the hell is going on there? |
| 16:07.24 | j4cbo | is it safe to assume that a library upgrade that doesn't replace an old package is safe, abi-wise? |
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| 16:07.39 | j4cbo | i.e. libfoo -> libfoo ok, libfoo -> libfooc2 be careful? |
| 16:07.50 | jetx | doub: i can't stand testing when i go back to it :( i could though |
| 16:08.06 | stew | pick your poison |
| 16:08.15 | dondelelcaro | streuner: going on where? |
| 16:08.33 | streuner | dondelelcaro: well, someone used your nick to post crap? |
| 16:08.44 | dondelelcaro | streuner: not my nick... look closely. |
| 16:08.45 | doub | jetx: yeah, i did too. but seeing how sid is nowadays, my life is just a whole lot better since i replaced sid with etch |
| 16:08.47 | jetx | the L was an I in the nick |
| 16:08.52 | streuner | dondelelcaro: oh |
| 16:08.58 | doub | jetx: birds sing again, my wife is back, well, everything ;) |
| 16:09.17 | jetx | i'd rather run woody! :) j/k |
| 16:09.22 | jetx | kinda |
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| 16:09.57 | rbochan | geez |
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| 16:10.15 | pablum | streuner, it's the bot strategy: a side effect /could/ be to get the wrong person banned. |
| 16:10.19 | jetx | he inhales a fog then propels away into the fog... up his nose? |
| 16:10.23 | jetx | so he's a big booger |
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| 16:10.29 | rbochan | lol |
| 16:10.35 | streuner | dondelelcaro: dondeIelcaro |
| 16:10.49 | jetx | and Iilo |
| 16:11.27 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: i didn't see the 'I' with my fonts (desktop-system)... ;-) |
| 16:11.40 | dondelelcaro | streuner_: time to change fonts... ;-) |
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| 16:11.59 | pablum | you have to scroll back to the login (or maybe there's an easier way?) to find their ip... they change names several times |
| 16:12.14 | pablum | s/login/join/ |
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| 16:12.31 | jetx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.39 | jetx | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.44 | jetx | and whois |
| 16:12.49 | nforbes | seenserv actually |
| 16:13.01 | nforbes | (on freenode at least) |
| 16:13.05 | dondelelcaro | there are a few dozen methods that work |
| 16:13.14 | jetx | true |
| 16:13.18 | nforbes | Well, whowas doesn't work |
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| 16:13.53 | jazzanova_ | when i do apm sleep, and then wake up, my usb mouse dosen't work. what modules i need to take down and then up for it to work ? |
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| 16:14.29 | jetx | yes it just did function, iirc there's a time limit on whowas though |
| 16:14.35 | jetx | try /whowas whyduck |
| 16:14.38 | cyzie | hello guys, need yer all helps. when im at office/home, i use static. when im at client site, i use dhcp. im looking a way for faster switch |
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| 16:15.03 | jetx | or somebody recently departed |
| 16:15.06 | PerfDave | cyzie: laptop-net and similar |
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| 16:15.30 | nforbes | jetx, Oh, well it only lasts a few minutes then :\ |
| 16:15.40 | nforbes | jetx, I think SeenServ remembers forever |
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| 16:16.28 | nforbes | o; |
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| 16:18.02 | cyzie | PerfDave, laptop-net i tried just now. it doesnt appear in GUI nor in command line. somemore it make my static connection lost. |
| 16:18.13 | PerfDave | cyzie: Did you read the documentation? |
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| 16:19.10 | cyzie | yes, when i man laptop-net , it doesnt appear. when i do apt-get install laptop-net, i also install its docs |
| 16:20.06 | doub | cyzie: look in the documentation directory for this package |
| 16:20.17 | doub | cyzie: /usr/share/doc/<package name> |
| 16:21.09 | doub | !qotd |
| 16:21.10 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
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| 16:21.14 | doub | !qotd0 |
| 16:21.14 | dpkg | methinks qotd79 is <FlimFlamMan> i'd pimp my mother for a checkbox that says "enable ldap authentication" |
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| 16:21.51 | ismi | b |
| 16:22.10 | ismi | hello |
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| 16:22.53 | shai_ | well, appearently CDrecord does not like kernel <2.4 |
| 16:22.54 | ismi | any person speack spanish? |
| 16:23.03 | PerfDave | !es |
| 16:23.03 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:23.12 | shai_ | how am I supposed to burn an ISO if I can't scanbus? |
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| 16:23.22 | Jacobo221 | is there any app such that given a file with URLs it downloads those webs with their images? |
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| 16:24.02 | doub | Jacobo221: wget is your friend |
| 16:24.16 | jetx | man wget, yes |
| 16:24.24 | jetx | see also curl |
| 16:24.56 | streuner | dondelelcaro: done |
| 16:25.06 | jetx | what, the fonts? |
| 16:25.12 | streuner | yeah |
| 16:25.15 | Jacobo221 | doub: wget will also download images? |
| 16:25.20 | dondelelcaro | Jacobo221: yes. |
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| 16:25.33 | scoopexH | can anybody recommend me a management system for iptables-firewalls which allows me to maintain several iptables-firewalls from one place, using user-defined chains and has secure distribution mechanism for rules ? |
| 16:25.43 | doub | Jacobo221: everything you ask it to, that includes images by default for recursive download |
| 16:26.14 | PerfDave | scoopexH: rsync? :) |
| 16:26.46 | doub | scoopexH: uif. it has a system to use diskless firewalls taking their rules from LDAP |
| 16:26.53 | jetx | 'anybody' know if the kde3.4 on alioth would give the same libaspell problem? |
| 16:27.04 | Jacobo221 | doub, dondelelcaro thanks :) |
| 16:27.12 | TimbrWolf | Does anyone know if the Epiphany browser uses 128-bit encrypton? |
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| 16:28.27 | shai_ | DO I really have to install an older kernel if I want to burn CDs? |
| 16:28.36 | useruser | shai_: i doubt it |
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| 16:28.47 | shai_ | so what's wrong with CDrecord? |
| 16:28.57 | useruser | shai_: strangely, i don't know |
| 16:29.00 | v0L7r[-]n | I was reading up on how debian runlevels are all the same. If I make changes to a specofoc runlevels symlinks this would be incorrect. |
| 16:29.01 | jetx | doub: i tried to go back to testing once... all i could say was 'yuuuuuck' |
| 16:29.18 | TimbrWolf | shai_: Try cdrecord dev=ATAPI --scanbus |
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| 16:29.30 | doub | jetx: well, try it, and see what funny sound you will make this time |
| 16:29.42 | rob_lt | v0L7r[-]n: use update-rc.d command to startup scripts |
| 16:29.52 | Manyfold | debian sucks |
| 16:29.54 | rob_lt | *change startup scripts |
| 16:29.57 | jetx | i'm sure it will function just like sid used to |
| 16:30.00 | v0L7r[-]n | So if I want a mandrake runlevel 3 I can just modify runlevel 3 in /etc/rc.d |
| 16:30.05 | shai_ | TimbrWolf, can you join #flood? |
| 16:30.06 | jetx | manyfold sucks |
| 16:30.13 | doub | jetx: i'm using it right now, and no frickin problem |
| 16:30.18 | v0L7r[-]n | and I will have it boot into console without X |
| 16:30.20 | doub | Manyfold: you too |
| 16:30.24 | v0L7r[-]n | just the same |
| 16:30.34 | Manyfold | i have problems with alsa |
| 16:30.38 | jetx | doub: yes, i believe. it's not that, it's the lack of updates :) |
| 16:30.48 | jetx | !alsa-bork |
| 16:30.49 | dpkg | alsa-bork is probably modprobe snd-<soundcard-module> ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss, and maybe apt-get install gnome-alsamixer or alsamixergui, or apt-get install alsa-base |
| 16:30.58 | useruser | Manyfold: try ubuntu, it's miles better than debian |
| 16:31.15 | doub | useruser: better for what? |
| 16:31.19 | TBBle | j4cbo: I dunno if anyone answered your question, but "be careful" should be "different and incompatible, code that uses it needs to be recompiled" |
| 16:31.20 | useruser | doub: for people like Manyfold |
| 16:31.31 | rbochan | useruser: you mean whiners? |
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| 16:31.37 | useruser | rbochan: got it in one |
| 16:31.43 | n`ug|Pinguin | Hello |
| 16:31.43 | rbochan | !beer rbochan |
| 16:31.52 | Manyfold | i used gentoo before and then server 2003 |
| 16:32.02 | rbochan | Manyfold: my cat Mittens likes milk |
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| 16:32.13 | TBBle | jetx: Nope, I meant j4cbo, that was the person who asked the question. |
| 16:32.14 | rob_lt | v0L7r[-]n: hmmm... not sure about that. The default init level in inittab is 2. There does exist /etc/rcn.d/ n=0 to 6 though, so you can likely change it to your preference |
| 16:32.16 | shai_ | Is there any burning alternative which isn't just a frontend to cdrecord? |
| 16:32.19 | doub | jetx: lack of updates? but of course it lacks updates, that's what it's for : not to have broken updates |
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| 16:32.26 | Manyfold | and before that freebsd but i never got as many probs as with debian |
| 16:32.35 | jetx | ok i'll go run gentoo |
| 16:32.39 | jetx | NOT |
| 16:32.49 | doub | jetx: as sid is utterly broken these days, it has not much updates, yes |
| 16:33.06 | jetx | doub: it's only 50% borked :) |
| 16:33.08 | doub | jetx: so what? isn't a working libaspell what you're about? i do have it working on testing |
| 16:33.08 | shai_ | ever since I anstalled debian I just get problems upon problems... |
| 16:33.17 | useruser | shai_: i don't know, but did you try the kde thingy (i forget the name) - it has a nice setup wizard that'll try to fix your setup |
| 16:33.22 | Manyfold | for example is there a reason the make-kpkg script won't work properly after an make mrproper? |
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| 16:33.26 | shai_ | k3b? |
| 16:33.27 | jetx | k3bsetup |
| 16:33.38 | jetx | or k3b-setup or some such |
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| 16:33.50 | rob_lt | Manyfold: maybe because a make mrproper deletes the .config file? |
| 16:33.52 | jetx | xine-check for dvd setups |
| 16:34.01 | green_earz | shai_: and have you got the 2.6 kernel installed ? |
| 16:34.04 | useruser | shai_: yes |
| 16:34.07 | jetx | !rob_lt++ |
| 16:34.08 | rbochan | shai_: look on the debian-user mailing list, there's a thread from today about getting k3b set up properly |
| 16:34.08 | doub | Manyfold: well, go using those, if you're happy with them |
| 16:34.31 | doub | Manyfold: what's the point in coming to rant here about your unability to understand debian? |
| 16:34.34 | shai_ | link? |
| 16:34.51 | rbochan | shai_: look for subject "k3b should be run as root" or some such |
| 16:34.52 | jetx | apt-get install k3b supplies the script |
| 16:35.02 | Manyfold | even after cp'ing mein config file into the kernel-tree it didn't work |
| 16:35.04 | rbochan | shai_: lists.debian.org |
| 16:35.06 | jetx | apt-file search k3bsetup maybe |
| 16:35.14 | TimbrWolf | no |
| 16:35.21 | v0L7r[-]n | I figure I will change the !dm's to not start up so that I get console for runlevel 3 that way I could easially switch back to runlevel 2 defaults with X servers |
| 16:35.38 | PerfDave | Oh god, is v0L7r[-]n *still* going on about runlevels? |
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| 16:36.06 | FieldySnuts | what he's doing is trolling on and off. it's irritating. |
| 16:36.11 | Manyfold | all my friends keep telling me debian is a great os , now i just wanted to find out what they found so great. and i am really disappointed |
| 16:36.19 | ke6isf | PerfDave: /ignore, dude. |
| 16:36.23 | v0L7r[-]n | I need to have this so I can make certain X changes without X running |
| 16:36.23 | jetx | v0L7r[-]n: /etc/X11/default-display-manager controls those, i have copies of the xdm gdm and kdm ones, also an enpty one, and aliases to cp them when i want |
| 16:36.29 | jetx | empty |
| 16:36.33 | rbochan | !pity Manyfold |
| 16:36.33 | rob_lt | Manyfold: it is laid out in plain engligh in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz |
| 16:36.34 | dpkg | I pity da fool Manyfold! |
| 16:36.41 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: No, you do *not* need to fuck around with runlevels to do what you're trying to do. |
| 16:37.02 | FieldySnuts | PerfDave: he has been told that by at LEAST five people over the past few days, probably more. he is either a complete tard, or a troll. |
| 16:37.07 | useruser | Manyfold: go away and use ubuntu then |
| 16:37.09 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: Get the idea of runlevels out of your head. You don't need to touch to them. |
| 16:37.10 | shai_ | from today, you say? |
| 16:37.19 | Manyfold | and the debian help channel is very helpfull , thank you very much |
| 16:37.21 | rbochan | shai_: yep, I even replied to it |
| 16:37.30 | jetx | but, you MAY fuck around with the runlevels if you want |
| 16:37.35 | useruser | Manyfold: we aim to please. have a nice day |
| 16:37.35 | jetx | jsut you don't have to |
| 16:38.02 | jetx | also /etc/init.d/?dm stop functions |
| 16:38.05 | doub | Manyfold: given what you said first, that's not very surprising |
| 16:38.08 | FieldySnuts | jetx: don't bother trying to help him, he's been told over and over and over this same information |
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| 16:38.30 | FieldySnuts | seriously, use /ignore on folks who just Don't Get It(TM) |
| 16:38.43 | jetx | he doesn't seem as bad as manybendovers though |
| 16:38.47 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 16:38.55 | FieldySnuts | wtf is manybendovers |
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| 16:39.04 | Manyfold | no it's i said this after being ignored over and over in this channel |
| 16:39.04 | jetx | fold, bend over, ... |
| 16:39.09 | jetx | take it up the .... |
| 16:39.10 | FieldySnuts | uh ok |
| 16:39.12 | FieldySnuts | die |
| 16:39.21 | v0L7r[-]n | theres 4 ways to accomplish it |
| 16:39.26 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro, ping |
| 16:39.35 | shai_ | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/07/threads.html <-- am I even looking in the right page? |
| 16:39.38 | rbochan | shai_: I'm not finding it atm, it might have been tacked onto an earlier thread |
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| 16:40.13 | PerfDave | Manyfold: /msg dpkg further help |
| 16:40.25 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.36 | jetx | where would i look for bugreports on the test kde3.4 on alioth |
| 16:41.04 | rbochan | jetx: I don't know that you would |
| 16:41.16 | PerfDave | jetx: Does alioth not have its own bugtracker? |
| 16:41.22 | jetx | no idea |
| 16:41.23 | doub | Manyfold: my lastlog differs slightly, dear #debian luser. i see "18:30 < Manyfold> debian sucks", just after you joined |
| 16:41.37 | FieldySnuts | just fucking ignore him already, /ignore manyfold*!*@* all or similar |
| 16:41.45 | FieldySnuts | you're allowing him to waste your time |
| 16:41.52 | Manyfold | look into your log of yesterdays session |
| 16:42.04 | v0L7r[-]n | V0L7r[-]n takes out FieldySnuts legs with his dink |
| 16:42.19 | shai_ | well, it's not in july |
| 16:42.20 | PerfDave | Manyfold: Regardless of what happened yesterday, joining the channel saying "debian sucks" isn't going to encourage anyone to help you. |
| 16:42.45 | PerfDave | Manyfold: If #debian has not been able to help you, consult the resources given by /msg dpkg further help |
| 16:43.03 | doub | FieldySnuts: i wouldn't be in here if that was not for loosing my time |
| 16:43.05 | jetx | damn, they need to fix apt-file syntax in sid too |
| 16:43.15 | Manyfold | so my first problem is with aptitude he wants to install emacs-common-21 over and over again , but it's already installed so what to do if the package database is inconsistent? |
| 16:43.28 | shai_ | It a shame you can't search the archives |
| 16:43.28 | jetx | use dselect |
| 16:43.59 | PerfDave | Manyfold: What are you trying to do which causes aptitude to try and install emacs-common-21 over and over again? |
| 16:44.00 | doub | Manyfold: if it wants to install it, chances are that's because it's not installed |
| 16:44.01 | jetx | dselect is scientifically proven > apt-get or aptitude |
| 16:44.08 | jetx | just ask Guerin |
| 16:44.49 | useruser | shai_: google something site:lists.debian.org |
| 16:44.49 | doub | jetx: well maybe, but it has boring help messages and a cryptic keyboard command scheme |
| 16:45.04 | jetx | it's ui is fugly and non-intuitive |
| 16:45.10 | jetx | that's a given |
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| 16:45.50 | Manyfold | it tries to install it every time i use aptitude and it's installed cause i use emacs |
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| 16:46.03 | jetx | but when you have dep problems you cant fix with apt-get -f or aptitude whatever, dselect does function sometimes. |
| 16:46.14 | stew | shai_: http://lists.debian.org/search.html |
| 16:46.21 | rbochan | shai_: I'll see if I have my reply local still |
| 16:46.26 | rbochan | !paster |
| 16:46.27 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 16:46.43 | PerfDave | Manyfold: Give us an example of a command which causes aptitude to try and install emacs-common-21. |
| 16:47.05 | paster | "rbochan" at 24.92.249.222 pasted "k3b" (20 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/374 |
| 16:47.07 | rbochan | shai_: ^^^^ |
| 16:47.23 | ke6isf | doub: Would you propose wriging the help file in the style of H2G2? |
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| 16:47.46 | ke6isf | s/wriging/writing |
| 16:47.48 | stew | Manyfold: and what does apt-cache policy emacs21-common say for installed and candidate |
| 16:48.07 | v0L7r[-]n | PerfDave what else can I do to accomplish my task. I thought that having the Xservers disabled in one runlevel ain't such a bad idea. That way I can just use /etc/inittab to change the default. I would only use it for certain situations, but if you have a better idea then the one google provided for me let me know. |
| 16:48.16 | doub | Manyfold: "installed" as how the debian package sees it is not the same as being able to use that package. it sounds like not fully installed (that includes exectuing post-install script correctly) |
| 16:48.20 | shai_ | rbochan, that's not even the problem I'm having |
| 16:48.23 | shai_ | that's a perms issue |
| 16:48.35 | rbochan | than I've misunderstood you, sorry |
| 16:48.40 | rbochan | *then |
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| 16:48.42 | jetx | v0L7r[-]n: i told you one way that functions |
| 16:48.46 | shai_ | :/ thank's anyway |
| 16:48.57 | shai_ | can you try taking a look at my problem? |
| 16:49.11 | v0L7r[-]n | ya and you have to set the display manager again later |
| 16:49.12 | rbochan | re-'splain it por favor |
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| 16:49.18 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: You don't need to change runlevels at all fo anything that you're doing. If you want to not run X while you do something, then just stop running X. It's not hard, you don't need to change runlevels or anything. |
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| 16:49.43 | doub | ke6isf: well, that's an idea. and an esperanto translation below would fit the bill. and force users to scroll down the whole help before proceeding, with a delayed "proceed" option, would be a killer feature |
| 16:49.43 | jetx | v0L7r[-]n: i type nodm, or ysgdm, or yskdm, or ysxdm. not hard to do. |
| 16:49.53 | Manyfold | aptitude -> search foo -> + ->g and then aptitude list emacs as packet being installed to satiesfy dependencies but it's already installed and it happens every time i call aptitude |
| 16:50.18 | jetx | !tell Manyfold about fix-unmet |
| 16:50.35 | useruser | shai_: does it work if you're root? |
| 16:50.40 | shai_ | nope |
| 16:50.44 | v0L7r[-]n | update- rc.d !dm stop 99 123456, |
| 16:50.48 | PerfDave | Manyfold: What happens if you type "aptitude install emacs"? |
| 16:50.51 | shai_ | can you join #flood so I could show you a log? |
| 16:51.00 | shai_ | not a log, sorry, an output |
| 16:51.02 | doub | Manyfold: it is not fully installed if aptitude wants to install it. see the package state on the left, or what 'dpkg -s <package>' says, on the "Status: " line. if it's not 'install ok installed', then it is not fully installed |
| 16:51.06 | useruser | shai_: ok. i probably won't be so much help though |
| 16:51.12 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: No, you don't need to use update-rc.d either. |
| 16:51.24 | rbochan | !tell shai_ about paster |
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| 16:51.37 | doub | Manyfold: maybe it's time for you to RTFM, see debian-reference for example |
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| 16:52.06 | v0L7r[-]n | ok so screw disabling in anyway and look into nodm, ysgdm, yskdm,ysxdm |
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| 16:52.41 | doub | Manyfold: but if you don't like to RTFM, and want pointy-clicky interfaces, debian is obviously not for you |
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| 16:53.14 | mike-m | apt-get install synaptic |
| 16:53.27 | jetx | v0L7r[-]n: i have sudo cp /etc/X11/default-display-manager.nodm /etc/X11/default-display-manager aliased to nodm, and the appropriate file(s) there. |
| 16:53.27 | mike-m | a great dpkg interface |
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| 16:53.51 | jetx | the .nodm one is empty |
| 16:53.55 | Manyfold | just one more question i want to rebuild my debian system from ground up from sources just like gentoo does it . where can i find the manual covering this task? |
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| 16:54.10 | pumpitup | boo |
| 16:54.14 | PerfDave | Manyfold: Why do you want to do that? It's pointless. Read the APT HOWTO for working with source packages. |
| 16:54.14 | jetx | less /etc/X11/default-display-manager and cp it to .?dm |
| 16:54.37 | jetx | apt-build |
| 16:54.51 | rob__ | hello |
| 16:55.12 | goron | How can I tell gmake I want it to use Linux cp, instead of BSD cp? |
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| 16:55.21 | doub | Manyfold: you can do build it from sources, but that's utterly pointless. debian has built bridges around compile time choices by providing different packages when appropriate |
| 16:55.31 | doub | Manyfold: if you want gentoo, install gentoo |
| 16:55.58 | rob__ | anybody know about /usr/bin/ld and stripping libraries? |
| 16:56.11 | rob__ | I've really messed up my install |
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| 16:56.34 | doub | !tell rob__ -about ask |
| 16:57.25 | stew | !apt-gentoo |
| 16:57.26 | dpkg | apt-gentoo is a way of simulating the waste of time that is gentoo on your Debian system. Experience the thrill of compiling your own apps from source without actually bothering to compile them! Download it from http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/apt-gentoo/ Announcement at: http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040331.230648.aa390e61.html |
| 16:57.35 | rob__ | how do I 'unstrip' the libraries in /usr/lib ? I ran strip * and now I can't compile anything |
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| 16:57.47 | GraffAttiTudE | hello :) |
| 16:57.54 | stew | dpkg: apt-gentoo =~ s#http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040331.230648.aa390e61.html#http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg02502.html# |
| 16:57.54 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 16:58.12 | doub | rob__: they're already stripped except for debug versions (the -dbg packages) |
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| 16:58.45 | mmiikkee12 | Does anyone know where I can find a Linux driver for my Westell 6100 modem, connected through USB? |
| 16:58.50 | rob__ | I think I did a strip -s *, which strips all symbols, now I get ld errors when trying to compile |
| 16:59.01 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: ? |
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| 16:59.58 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro, you are the own of "apt" bot, yes ? |
| 17:00.08 | pablum | rob__, uh, stripping libraries? you mean, shared libraries? |
| 17:00.10 | doub | rob__: you'll have to reinstall them, then. 'apt-get --reinstall install <packages>' |
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| 17:00.48 | rob__ | right, I've tried reinstalling all the C libraries I could think of, but no luck |
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| 17:01.37 | paulswm | stew: that apt-gentoo announcement is too funny :) |
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| 17:01.54 | Eulex | woot? apt-gentoo? |
| 17:02.19 | GraffAttiTudE | http://looser.fr.tc/ <- lol |
| 17:02.20 | pablum | wtf won't xterm translate my Alt- commands! I don't want to use gnome-terminally-bloated |
| 17:02.20 | GraffAttiTudE | ;\ |
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| 17:02.48 | paulswm | Eulex: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg02502.html |
| 17:03.06 | doub | pablum: enable "meta sends escape" option (with ctrl-button1 or in x ressources, see man xterm) |
| 17:03.21 | pablum | doub, I'll try, thanks. |
| 17:03.27 | stew | paulswm: yeah. take note of the date of the message |
| 17:03.38 | pablum | hot diggety!!! |
| 17:03.41 | paulswm | Yes, I did. |
| 17:04.28 | Eulex | paulswm, hehe |
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| 17:05.16 | Eulex | they do even have a package for apt-gentoo. /me guesses it's empty |
| 17:05.21 | tzafrir_home | pabl0, what Alt commands? |
| 17:05.36 | tzafrir_home | what wm? |
| 17:05.54 | paulswm | stew: When I was a kid, the BBC broadcast the Spaghetti Harvest in Italy, complete with film of farmers getting the spagetti off the spaghetti trees. A real classic. |
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| 17:06.10 | mortum | hi |
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| 17:06.44 | ke6isf | Hi, mortum |
| 17:06.57 | doub | paulswm: did the spagetti come out of the tree with the sauce? |
| 17:07.19 | jme | yes, with some money on the side. |
| 17:07.24 | tzafrir_home | pablum, also check rxvt-unicode . *way* faster than xterm and any other term |
| 17:07.35 | paulswm | doub: IIRC it was just limp strands of spaghetti |
| 17:07.53 | pablum | doub, I'm looking at 'eightBitInput' in the man page |
| 17:07.54 | Eulex | hehe, that apt-gentoo contained one file, README, which contained "April fool!" |
| 17:08.02 | rj-away | 'lo eleusis |
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| 17:08.13 | eleusis | g'day |
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| 17:08.30 | paulswm | doub: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/1/newsid_2819000/2819261.stm |
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| 17:09.19 | pablum | tzafrir_home, long ago I tried rxvt... I can try it again but I think there was some maniac putting eight bit '-'s in the man pages and it made searches difficult. memory bad, though, I could be mistaken |
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| 17:09.32 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: I own dpkg, not apt. |
| 17:09.55 | PandaKun | you guys have a guide on installing 32bit programs on 64bit? |
| 17:09.58 | goron | Does anybody know how I can convince make to use linux cp instead of bsd cp? |
| 17:10.06 | bykte | PandaKun just add 32 bit more |
| 17:10.18 | yaccobb | i have installed xorg and then, realizing it wasn't so good idea in stable, I installed back xfree86, everything works well expect sound. |
| 17:10.33 | tzafrir_home | anybody here installed Sarge on a dell poweredge 2800? I'm trying to help someone here, and googling didn't help me much (that is: provided many hints, that appear to be dated/misleading) |
| 17:10.36 | PandaKun | huh? |
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| 17:10.44 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro, please, are posible to enter in #elive ? |
| 17:10.50 | yaccobb | what tools should I use to find out whats wrong with sound once worked ? |
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| 17:11.16 | ircdevil | did anyone ever invent a feature to go with mozilla so your bookmarks are kept on the net and availible from whatever box you happen to be situated at? |
| 17:11.22 | PerfDave | ircdevil: Yes |
| 17:11.28 | rbochan | sounds evil |
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| 17:11.30 | ircdevil | PerfDave: spill it boy |
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| 17:11.33 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: I really only have it in channels that I'm active in... you're more than welcome to run your own and use the same factoids, though. /msg dpkg your factoids |
| 17:11.33 | PerfDave | PandaKun: Ask #debian-amd64 |
| 17:11.47 | PerfDave | ircdevil: There's an extension which syncs bookmarks over FTP, can't remember what it's called. |
| 17:11.56 | ircdevil | PerfDave: ok |
| 17:12.03 | ircdevil | anyone nows? ^^ |
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| 17:12.09 | tzafrir_home | Specifically: I'd like to know if the default sarge installer should be able to install a PowerEdge 2800 with a PREC4ei as its "disk" |
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| 17:12.13 | ircdevil | err knows |
| 17:12.25 | rbochan | ircdevil: you could also host your bookmarks.html on a web server and set it as your homepage |
| 17:12.32 | mmiikkee12 | Does anyone know where I can find a Linux driver for my Westell 6100 modem, connected through USB? |
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| 17:12.49 | ircdevil | rbochan: i know, but i was wondering if there was an extentionen to do that from within mozilla |
| 17:12.56 | PerfDave | ircdevil: Look on the Firefox extension site. |
| 17:13.03 | ircdevil | PerfDave: will do |
| 17:13.06 | brrrt | hello :) what kernel-option do i need for the device-mapper |
| 17:13.09 | brrrt | ? |
| 17:13.09 | SolozerK | ircdevil > here, I think : https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=14&vid=15 |
| 17:13.20 | jme | actually, in firefox you can just load a bookmark "folder" directly in the homepage url |
| 17:13.25 | brrrt | for a 2.4 kernel |
| 17:13.45 | tzafrir_home | brrrt, could you be more specific? e.g: what kernel? what debian? |
| 17:13.49 | Thanatermesis | dondelelcaro, mmmh, I have the bot of "apt" in #elive, rickyclarkson have ported in, is very similar to dpkg (not same?), I need a little info for how to bot speaks automatically a "phrase" if have read the word "blah" in the channel. |
| 17:13.56 | PerfDave | jme: That doesn't help you when you add new bookmarks though. |
| 17:14.04 | skel | anyone running debian on a bladecenter? |
| 17:14.07 | brrrt | tzafrir_home: linux-2.4.31 on sarge |
| 17:14.11 | goron | Does anybody know how I can convince make to use linux cp instead of bsd cp? |
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| 17:14.24 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: it's relatively similar |
| 17:14.44 | jme | PerfDave: oh, that just loads all the bookmarks in separate tabs, my bad :) |
| 17:14.47 | tzafrir_home | goron, manipulate PATH? set the value of CP? |
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| 17:15.15 | dondelelcaro | goron: why would you want to? Debian ships GNU cp. |
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| 17:15.36 | goron | tzafrir_home: ok, so make just uses the path and $CP? |
| 17:15.51 | Thanatermesis | and how to make this with "dpkg" dondelelcaro ? :) |
| 17:15.53 | ke6isf | goron: Why, is it broke? |
| 17:15.54 | goron | dondelelcaro: I am not at Debian at the moment. |
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| 17:16.03 | tzafrir_home | goron, as for CP: if the makefile uses such a variable |
| 17:16.04 | yaccobb | when I try to set alsa as default multimedia system in gnome it says it failed to construct test pipeline for alsa.... what does that mean ? gmplayer or xmms's sound works well... |
| 17:16.05 | brrrt | i jujst cant find the option for device-mapper in the huge kernel menu |
| 17:16.13 | goron | tzafrir_home: It does not. |
| 17:16.26 | goron | tzafrir_home: So that leaves the PATH as the only option. |
| 17:16.47 | goron | tzafrir_home: thank you |
| 17:16.49 | kittenbot | brrrt: Does 2.4 have the device-mapper? |
| 17:16.56 | tzafrir_home | brrrt, what config did you start with? |
| 17:17.01 | brrrt | i dont know |
| 17:17.13 | tzafrir_home | kittenbot, right |
| 17:17.14 | AlienX | where can i find a net-install image for sid/unstable? (CD image) |
| 17:17.14 | enyc | Does anybody here know what 'dlloader' is [?] |
| 17:17.22 | FieldySnuts | ~gender |
| 17:17.22 | apt | I'm pregnant |
| 17:17.42 | tzafrir_home | AlienX, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ? |
| 17:17.47 | dondelelcaro | Thanatermesis: you'd have to have access to the configuration files to do that without addressing the bot. |
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| 17:18.14 | ke6isf | !tell AlienX -about netinst |
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| 17:18.42 | AlienX | tzafrir_home, i've been reading that page but it looks as though it's for testing |
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| 17:19.29 | Trev_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.47 | FieldySnuts | wang |
| 17:20.05 | PerfDave | AlienX: IYHTAYS ;) |
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| 17:20.13 | PerfDave | AlienX: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 17:20.38 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: can you connect that modem with eternet cable instead of usb? |
| 17:20.39 | brrrt | tzafrir_home: i have a custom config, now i would like to use lvm and the device-mapper seems missing on my system |
| 17:20.44 | Eulex | AlienX, you don't install unstable or testing, you install stable, change your sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade to whichever you want |
| 17:20.56 | mmiikkee12 | no, I don't have an ethernet card |
| 17:21.03 | PerfDave | Eulex: Not strictly true, you can directly netinst testing or unstable. |
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| 17:21.07 | AlienX | PerfDave, cheers |
| 17:21.13 | tzafrir_home | brrrt, as kittenbot has pointed out, device mapper was not part of 2.4, IIRC |
| 17:21.14 | AlienX | Eulex, make sense. Cheers |
| 17:21.29 | goron | tzafrir_home: If I put export PATH=/a/b/c in a file. And then execute it from Bash, then that should change $PATH, right? I just did, and it doesn't work. |
| 17:21.41 | mmiikkee12 | actually I do, but it's managed to crash both Mandriva and Windows |
| 17:21.43 | tzafrir_home | don't know how to make sense. Stop. |
| 17:21.57 | FieldySnuts | sounds like a bsd system |
| 17:22.04 | ke6isf | goron: Try 'PATH=(path goes here); export PATH' instead. |
| 17:22.06 | FieldySnuts | in which case "make love" is mildly amusing |
| 17:22.17 | splattnik | whats the command for nvidia it isnt /dpkg nvidia? |
| 17:22.21 | docvell | I have a question: Is there a log of the bootup sequence for debian (showing what is loading and when it is during bootup)? if so, where is it...because I would like to just look at it |
| 17:22.24 | FieldySnuts | nvidia one liner? |
| 17:22.41 | Eulex | PerfDave, ok -- but I can't imagine someone would recommend it |
| 17:22.44 | brrrt | tzafrir_home: i c, so it seems that i will have to use a 2.6 kernel or use lvm1 instead |
| 17:22.47 | jdhutchin1 | docvell, dmesg? |
| 17:22.52 | ke6isf | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.56 | ke6isf | !dmesg |
| 17:22.56 | dpkg | somebody said dmesg was print or control the kernel ring buffer |
| 17:22.58 | tzafrir_home | actually, it may be safer to run: PATH="whatever" command |
| 17:23.06 | docvell | ok, let me check that |
| 17:23.08 | cahoot | docvell: might look at /etc/default/bootlogd also |
| 17:23.16 | tzafrir_home | brrrt, right |
| 17:23.20 | docvell | can I do that as user or have to be root? |
| 17:23.34 | ke6isf | docvell: I think any user can. |
| 17:23.44 | goron | ke6isf: There's nothing wrong with my script, only the effects are visible within the scripts environment. I want the shell I am currently in to be changed within the script. |
| 17:23.57 | PerfDave | Eulex: I don't recommend it :) |
| 17:24.00 | PerfDave | splattnik: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 17:24.08 | brrrt | well, thx alot :D this points me to the right direction ;) |
| 17:24.12 | splattnik | PerfDave: thnx |
| 17:24.41 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: "Ethernet and USB connectivity. Ethernet is highly recommended, does not require drivers, and is not dependent on any particular OS." |
| 17:25.06 | FieldySnuts | agreed |
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| 17:25.12 | pumpitup | whats the command again to reconfigure x ? /dpkg --reconfigure x-window? |
| 17:25.20 | goron | ke6isf: Well, I know a hack solution. I will do that, but I would like to hear something else if you know. |
| 17:25.23 | drac | !drxx pumpitup |
| 17:25.24 | stew | !drxx pumpitup |
| 17:25.24 | dpkg | pumpitup: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
| 17:25.43 | ke6isf | goron: Just that one solution I offered; rebuild your PATH and export. |
| 17:25.56 | docvell | dmesg gave me a bunch of stuff.../etc/default/bootlogd didn't give me much (said it was set up as No for bootlog) |
| 17:25.58 | ke6isf | goron: For a makefile, I don't know if that'll work. |
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| 17:26.26 | goron | ke6isf: I did, but it doesn't change the outer environment. |
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| 17:26.40 | mmiikkee12 | rbochan: I don't have an ethernet card |
| 17:26.44 | ke6isf | goron: Best go for the hackish solution then. |
| 17:26.51 | kurtak | Hello: What's the best thing to do after a Hunk fails upon patching? Do you guys try to merge the files manually?? |
| 17:26.56 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: from what I've been reading, you're SOL then |
| 17:26.59 | dondelelcaro | kurtak: yes. |
| 17:27.13 | ke6isf | mmiikkee12: Anything stopping you from buying an ethernet card? |
| 17:27.18 | cahoot | docvell: the point being if you want more tha dmesg - enable bootlogd |
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| 17:27.34 | mmiikkee12 | uh... which kind should I get? |
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| 17:27.39 | goron | ke6isf: ok, it works. |
| 17:27.41 | rbochan | cheep 3com |
| 17:27.47 | ke6isf | mmiikkee12: I recommend anything by 3com. |
| 17:28.00 | nazgul | * who is using gaim messenger? |
| 17:28.01 | mmiikkee12 | actually, I have a driver disk for the modem, will that help anything? |
| 17:28.09 | ke6isf | nazgul: Yo. |
| 17:28.13 | rbochan | unlikely |
| 17:28.21 | mmiikkee12 | it's for windows |
| 17:28.26 | FieldySnuts | exactly, useless to you |
| 17:28.28 | ke6isf | mmiikkee12: Then absolutely not. |
| 17:28.33 | FieldySnuts | which is why we recommend avoiding the usb interface |
| 17:28.41 | mmiikkee12 | let me see if there are any .debs on it. |
| 17:28.43 | mmiikkee12 | brb |
| 17:28.45 | FieldySnuts | heh. there won't be. |
| 17:28.50 | rbochan | ha! |
| 17:28.55 | rbochan | that would be rich |
| 17:28.59 | ircdevil | 5$ on "no .debs" |
| 17:29.02 | PandaKun | any idea? /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/bin/../lib/libdl.a |
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| 17:29.31 | PandaKun | =o /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldl |
| 17:29.46 | mmiikkee12 | can't hurt to look... but i don't think there will be |
| 17:29.53 | Thanatermesis | how to limit/ulimit my upload ? |
| 17:30.00 | mmiikkee12 | wtf? |
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| 17:30.32 | docvell | I'm currently using the newest version of Debian 3.1 0a and just wondering...is there a way to change the video card driver from "vesa" to "nv"? I mainly use gnome (2.8.3) |
| 17:30.38 | mmiikkee12 | Interactive Video CD- Put this in your computer to see a preview of FastAccess service. |
| 17:30.39 | mrwoody | I just installed X.org (finally in Sid). Does anyone know why my Ctrl+Alt+Fn doesn't work anymore? |
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| 17:30.44 | mmiikkee12 | how useless... |
| 17:30.52 | brrrt | how safe is it to copy a .config file from 2.4.31 to 2.6.12 ? @:-/ |
| 17:31.03 | PandaKun | =o |
| 17:31.03 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: from what I"ve been reading, what you have there is basically a "dsl usb winmodem" piece of crap thingie, so unless you use ethernet to connect to it, you're out of luck |
| 17:31.05 | useruser | brrrt: you can try make oldconfig i think |
| 17:31.11 | useruser | brrrt: something like that |
| 17:31.16 | brrrt | ahh |
| 17:31.20 | tzafrir_home | brrrt, start with the default one of 2.6.8-2 or whatever |
| 17:31.26 | websdale | docvell:what video card do you have? |
| 17:31.27 | mathieu | i wouldn't do that switching from 2.4 to 2.6 |
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| 17:31.46 | brrrt | k, thx :) |
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| 17:32.01 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: yep. most manufacturers think that only windows exists, and only make drivers etc for windows. sometimes manufacturers can be convinced to make drivers, usually not |
| 17:32.01 | mrgarisson | is there a X.org .deb package for current stable? if not is there a way to x.org binary in to current stable? |
| 17:32.07 | docvell | nVidia GeForce 5200...when I configured the system, I accidently hit enter when it was on the VESA selection. I still get my gui and everything else but I want it to be the proper driver |
| 17:32.09 | FieldySnuts | mrgarisson: it's not in stable |
| 17:32.19 | mmiikkee12 | i have a ethernet card, but it locks up every OS i've booted with it in there. |
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| 17:32.23 | rbochan | mrgarisson: short of backports.org or apt-get.org you're on your own |
| 17:32.27 | mrwoody | mrgarisson: nope |
| 17:32.28 | censor | hi all |
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| 17:32.37 | kittenbot | mmiikkee12: get rid of it :) |
| 17:32.40 | mrwoody | mrgarisson: move to Sid, if you want to do that |
| 17:32.53 | mmiikkee12 | kittenbot: i didm |
| 17:32.54 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: they offer zero linux support... says so right on their web pages |
| 17:32.55 | mmiikkee12 | did |
| 17:32.58 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: i guarantee you are wasting your time, the second you say "linux" they will be wholly clueless and may even be hostile |
| 17:33.03 | censor | when running "hostname -f" i always get "hostname: Unknown host" ... same for "hostname -s" |
| 17:33.04 | mrgarisson | mrwoody: and there is sid for PPC too? |
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| 17:33.15 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: pick up another ethernet card, trust me. i've been through this. |
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| 17:33.27 | mrwoody | mrgarisson: sorry, I don't know. But I would be surprised if there isn't |
| 17:33.29 | websdale | docvell:unless you feel strongly about using free software, Nvidia's drivers are very good & there are debian packages of them |
| 17:33.34 | mmiikkee12 | lol, i signed up for netzero once and the lady didn't know what linux was... |
| 17:33.35 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: it's worth the $10 to do without the migraiens |
| 17:33.41 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: very typical |
| 17:33.43 | docvell | I know, but how do I install them and use them? |
| 17:33.47 | mrgarisson | thanks |
| 17:33.48 | PandaKun | dododo |
| 17:34.03 | brrrt | does it IYO make sense to build a monolithic kernel for a server? |
| 17:34.07 | PandaKun | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libdl.so when searching for -ldl |
| 17:34.07 | PandaKun | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libdl.a when searching for -ldl |
| 17:34.09 | censor | i've set my hostname with the hostname command, the file /etc/hostname exists, my /etc/hosts contains all the stuff that sould be there, how else can i fix this error? |
| 17:34.10 | PandaKun | any idea |
| 17:34.12 | mmiikkee12 | d-link 530tx+...? |
| 17:34.13 | FieldySnuts | @kill PandaKun |
| 17:34.19 | PandaKun | yay =D |
| 17:34.25 | mrwoody | I just installed X.org (finally in Sid). Does anyone know why my Ctrl+Alt+Fn doesn't work anymore? |
| 17:34.36 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: stick that and the word linux in google, you should find out pretty fast if people say it does or does not work in linux (specifically debian kernels) |
| 17:34.59 | FieldySnuts | mrwoody: might want to ask gravity on that |
| 17:35.01 | PandaKun | =o |
| 17:35.17 | drac | mrwoody: Doesn't work how? Nothing happens? Change driver "keyboard" to driver "kbd" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. |
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| 17:35.40 | mrwoody | FieldySnuts: gravity? |
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| 17:35.41 | FieldySnuts | if he had it as "keyboard" it wouldn't have even started |
| 17:35.52 | mrwoody | drac: There are funny symbols like P, Q, etc |
| 17:35.53 | Eulex | mrwoody, what do you expect it to do? |
| 17:35.53 | FieldySnuts | mrwoody: yes, person by the nick gravity here... nevermind he's not here currently |
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| 17:35.59 | websdale | docvell:there's a dkpg msg which tells you that but I can't remember what it is - you use "module-assistant" install the kernel module |
| 17:36.26 | websdale | docvell: & just apt-get install the other modules |
| 17:36.27 | stew | docvell: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 17:36.32 | mrwoody | Eulex: console? |
| 17:36.37 | websdale | stew:thanks |
| 17:36.45 | mmiikkee12 | cool, i found a driver for the network card, on d-link's site! |
| 17:36.55 | pablum | uff |
| 17:36.59 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: then chances are it's already available in the kernel |
| 17:37.03 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: probably not needed, most of these things are already in your debian kernel |
| 17:37.12 | Eulex | mrwoody, oh, sorry -- was thinking of the Fn key on laptops |
| 17:37.14 | docvell | websdale: Thanks...I'll try |
| 17:37.22 | mmiikkee12 | Use for 2.2.x or if your version of Linux does not have the RTL8139 module built-in. |
| 17:37.23 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: but that's a good sign. when you get the card, be sure and ask about the return policy, just in case... |
| 17:37.39 | mrwoody | drac: I will try that? |
| 17:37.40 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: oh. rtl9139 is definately supported, you're going to be fine and won't need their driver |
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| 17:37.46 | FieldySnuts | er 8139 |
| 17:37.50 | websdale | docvell: do "/msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 17:37.52 | mmiikkee12 | ok... |
| 17:37.54 | drac | mrwoody: No, I guessed your problem wrong. |
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| 17:37.58 | drac | mrwoody: Forget about it. |
| 17:38.06 | FieldySnuts | mmiikkee12: also known as realtek, a common chipset |
| 17:38.11 | rbochan | !rtl8139 |
| 17:38.12 | dpkg | from memory, rtl8139 is a RealTek PCI NIC that uses the 8139too (new) or rtl8139 (old) driver. *not* ne2k-pci, or a piece of shit card!...but some people have had good luck with it. see also <rtl81x9.c> |
| 17:38.12 | mrwoody | drac: then ? ;-) |
| 17:38.13 | mmiikkee12 | let me try it, brb |
| 17:38.26 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 17:38.28 | mmiikkee12 | !log |
| 17:38.28 | dpkg | Yeah, big guy, show me your /var/log!, or "It's /var/log, /var/log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's /var/log, /var/log, it's better than bad it's good!" |
| 17:38.34 | FieldySnuts | oh my |
| 17:38.37 | mmiikkee12 | !a |
| 17:38.38 | dpkg | it has been said that a is UK's best rock band :) |
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| 17:38.47 | mmiikkee12 | !slap dpkg |
| 17:38.52 | pablum | mrwoody, what dm? |
| 17:38.53 | mmiikkee12 | lol |
| 17:38.53 | FieldySnuts | !botabues |
| 17:38.54 | mmiikkee12 | XD |
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| 17:38.56 | FieldySnuts | feck it |
| 17:39.50 | mrwoody | drac: dm? |
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| 17:40.16 | drac | mrwoody: ? |
| 17:40.28 | drac | mrwoody: dm is Display Manager. |
| 17:41.57 | docvell | websale & stew: THANKS!!! it is doing what dpkg suggested |
| 17:42.04 | clueless | Is there a way to allow another user to run X program? |
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| 17:42.45 | stew | clueless: /msg dpkg run stuff as root ; /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie ; /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 17:43.07 | rob__ | clueless: what error are you getting when you try as a user? |
| 17:43.33 | mrwoody | drac: I use windowmaker |
| 17:43.40 | mrwoody | drac: if that is your question |
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| 17:44.17 | docvell | websale & stew: I got an error |
| 17:44.38 | docvell | websale & stew: it said Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed. # |
| 17:44.38 | docvell | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.38 | docvell | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.39 | drac | mrwoody: I didn't ask you anything. |
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| 17:45.05 | stew | docvell: did you add contrib and non-free to sources.list? |
| 17:45.06 | drac | mrwoody: pablum did. |
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| 17:45.34 | docvell | what lines do I add for my sources.list then? |
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| 17:45.48 | rob__ | no matter what I reinstall, I still get "/usr/bin/ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 0000000008048230" |
| 17:46.05 | astronut | what would cause my network card to not turn on with ifconfig eth0 up |
| 17:46.10 | mrwoody | drac: sorry |
| 17:46.11 | stew | docvell: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
| 17:46.15 | astronut | (it doesn't have settings, it's used for PPPoE) |
| 17:46.17 | rbochan | astronut: lack of proper module loading? |
| 17:46.29 | astronut | rbochan: that's what i thought, but tulip was loaded |
| 17:46.51 | astronut | rbochan: my internet dropped last night, i'm at camp, my mom was trying to fix it while i guided her over the phone |
| 17:47.01 | ldexter | YouHave nice |
| 17:47.07 | astronut | YouHave: doesn't -o defeat teh purpose? |
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| 17:47.17 | mihaly | I know its not a debian question but perhaps some one off you know. I cant find my network card in the kernel configuration menu among the Ethernet 10/100 devices. lspci says its Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10) but I cant find any matching. |
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| 17:47.39 | YouHave | astronut: why dont you try it and see? |
| 17:47.40 | astronut | mihaly: google |
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| 17:47.50 | koolmansam375 | hello |
| 17:47.51 | astronut | YouHave: i'm on some stupid java irc client...grr |
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| 17:48.03 | YouHave | haha |
| 17:48.04 | rbochan | astronut: I don't know squat about pppoe, but has the modem been reset as well? |
| 17:48.07 | swatikiss | does xorg still not work with the nvidia modules ? |
| 17:48.09 | mihaly | astronut: for what? :/ |
| 17:48.14 | astronut | rbochan: yes |
| 17:48.17 | ke6isf | !xorg-nvidia |
| 17:48.18 | dpkg | well, xorg-nvidia is http://www.livejournal.com/users/gravityboy/16446.html |
| 17:48.23 | astronut | mihaly: that string, linux |
| 17:48.42 | mihaly | astronut: I tried the name i get from lspci but got lots off post compilation topics |
| 17:48.48 | docvell | brb - doing some configing |
| 17:49.42 | rbochan | astronut: is it getting an IP that you know of? |
| 17:50.09 | astronut | mihaly: 8139too |
| 17:50.30 | orchid | mihaly: try 8139too or one of the 8139 modules |
| 17:50.31 | astronut | rbochan: i can't get the interface up |
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| 17:50.43 | rbochan | no lo either? |
| 17:50.43 | astronut | the eth0 interface never gets an IP, it just channels ppp0 |
| 17:50.49 | astronut | lo and eth1 are up |
| 17:50.58 | rbochan | got me then, sorry |
| 17:50.58 | mihaly | astronut: what do you mean? adding 8139 to the search string? |
| 17:51.07 | astronut | mihaly, no that's the answer |
| 17:51.18 | astronut | 8139too is the driver |
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| 17:52.41 | docvell | well hope it works...thank-you all for the help, I'll be sure to come here again for more help |
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| 17:53.02 | yaccobb | when I set default sink in Sound tab in gstreamer-properties to ALSA (alsasink) and test it says it failed to construct test pipeline. the same for default source :( What does that mean ? |
| 17:53.15 | astronut | yaccobb: does ALSA work? |
| 17:53.24 | mihaly | astronut: oh okey got them now... it says its for realtek cards in the linux kernal configuration... but I'll go for what you are saying... |
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| 17:53.37 | magyar | is there a client for debian that incorporates "gnutella, donkey and torrent" transactions, kind of like "shereaza" for M$? |
| 17:53.38 | v0L7r[-]n | where is my nodm or what is it's use. I have no man pages for it. |
| 17:53.38 | websdale | docvell:you'll soon find out when you reboot :) good luck |
| 17:53.39 | astronut | mihaly: realtek makes lots of chipsets others use |
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| 17:53.58 | astronut | "Changing server".....idiot |
| 17:54.00 | Attention | LOL |
| 17:54.08 | yaccobb | astronut, yes, mplayer and even GAIM works well (or "sounds well") |
| 17:54.19 | astronut | yaccobb: you have all the alsa packages installed? |
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| 17:55.07 | yaccobb | astronut, yes, it worked while ago, but i installed xorg and then moced back to xfree86 and now it doesnt. alsamixer also run without error |
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| 17:55.39 | narg | So, now the xorg is in unstable, how would I best migrate from my unoffical repository of xorg to the real one, comment out and apt-get update/upgrade? |
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| 17:56.11 | astronut | yaccobb: you probably lost some packages with the ABI change |
| 17:56.14 | drac | narg: remove your unofficial X.Org before installing official X.Org. |
| 17:56.21 | drac | narg: or all hell breaks loose. :P |
| 17:56.29 | narg | heheh... |
| 17:56.30 | astronut | yaccobb: In gravities words: "Welcome to unstable" |
| 17:56.34 | drac | narg: but Yes, to rest of your questions. |
| 17:56.40 | xoz | !get xorg |
| 17:56.40 | dpkg | xorg recently entered unstable. EXPECT MAJOR BREAKAGE. if you were previously running xorg debs from any other source you must remove all traces of xorg packages before you install the official xorg packages, or currently nvidia-glx is not working with xorg. so if you need 3d accel with an nvidia card, don't migrate to xorg, or see <xorg-nvidia> |
| 17:56.46 | AlienX | strange, the daily net install cd image doesn't have /install/2.6/linux |
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| 17:57.06 | narg | Well, glad it held it my xorg back when I did that. Time to remove it I guess then. Would --reinstall work, or should I just totally remove it? |
| 17:57.15 | ke6isf | AlienX: apt-get it later? |
| 17:57.17 | nsanity | how do you install sid? just install sarge and then dist-upgrade to sid? |
| 17:57.23 | xoz | narg: ^^^ |
| 17:57.27 | yaccobb | astronut, hehe, I was welcomed, so i quickly moved back to stable and xfree86 but not fast enough... ;) what does that pipeline error mean ? |
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| 17:57.38 | AlienX | ke6isf, i could but how do i run the installer otherwise? |
| 17:57.44 | dondelelcaro | nsanity: basically, yes. However, if you have to ask, you shouldn't be running sid. |
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| 17:57.58 | narg | nsanity: just edit sources.list |
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| 17:58.01 | ke6isf | AlienX: Like any other installer, I suspect. I won't touch sid for a reason. |
| 17:58.12 | AlienX | ke6isf, heh |
| 17:58.16 | nsanity | narg: I figured... just thought I'd ask... I've got vmware installed and I wanna play around |
| 17:58.24 | nsanity | dondelelcaro: I'm feelin dangerous today :) |
| 17:58.25 | jpablo | any one knows how to solve the missing startx problem in xorg ? |
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| 17:58.29 | sqbell | how one can know which debian version is he running? |
| 17:58.44 | sasKuach | jpablo, have you tried run just X ? |
| 17:59.00 | ke6isf | sqbell: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:59.11 | jpablo | sasKuach: that works, but donsn't parse my .xinitrc |
| 17:59.16 | sqbell | ke6isf: thanks a lot |
| 17:59.26 | xoz | jpablo: use .xsession |
| 17:59.35 | xoz | jpablo: cp .xinitrc .xsession |
| 17:59.43 | sasKuach | xoz, thanks, I had the same problem |
| 17:59.51 | nickv111 | Hmm |
| 18:00.07 | nickv111 | For some reason, X keeps crashing, leaving very vague errors on my iBook. |
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| 18:00.12 | ke6isf | dondelelcaro: The answer, sir, is in the question. |
| 18:00.14 | sqbell | ke6isf: it shows 3.1 (sarge?), and I'm sure it's not stable version.. |
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| 18:00.19 | PandaKun | dododod |
| 18:00.20 | PandaKun | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/bin/../lib/libdl.a when searching for -ldl |
| 18:00.20 | PandaKun | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libdl.so when searching for -ldl |
| 18:00.20 | PandaKun | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libdl.a when searching for -ldl |
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| 18:00.21 | PandaKun | any idea? |
| 18:00.27 | dondelelcaro | PandaKun: do NOT paste here. |
| 18:00.27 | jpablo | xoz: doesn' t work. |
| 18:00.34 | xoz | !xsession |
| 18:00.35 | dpkg | methinks xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
| 18:00.38 | takatumi | nickv111: /var/log/XFree86.0.log might be less vague |
| 18:00.54 | nickv111 | takatumi: That's what I'm looking at |
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| 18:00.57 | PandaKun | sorry dude =o |
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| 18:01.05 | ke6isf | sqbell: did you upgrade from sarge or something? |
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| 18:01.26 | sqbell | ke6isf: no, i got something before sarge stable |
| 18:01.27 | sasKuach | I keep reinstalling different C libs, but I still get ld errors when compiling |
| 18:01.53 | sqbell | ke6isf: development version, i think, and now i want to upgrade to sarge stable |
| 18:02.07 | sqbell | is there an easy way to do that w/ apt-get ? |
| 18:02.11 | ke6isf | sqbell: 3.1 is Sarge. Did you recently do an apt-get update/upgrade? |
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| 18:02.40 | nickv111 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/kUmrzu58.html |
| 18:02.47 | sqbell | ke6isf: i used update, but did not d/l all the packages that were needed to full upgrade |
| 18:02.48 | nickv111 | Those are my errors |
| 18:02.51 | takatumi | sqbell: how long since you did an upgrade? and what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 18:03.14 | corfe | so is anyone else noticing that XOrg in sid is noticeably faster than XFree86? |
| 18:03.22 | sqbell | takatumi: deb http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian/ testing main |
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| 18:03.30 | sqbell | takatumi: and #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main |
| 18:03.34 | sasKuach | corfe: no, glxgears is a tad slower for me :( |
| 18:03.36 | drac | corfe: indeed it is, at least with some drivers. |
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| 18:04.04 | drac | sasKuach: glxgears is not a benchmark. |
| 18:04.07 | ke6isf | corfe: I did in Mandreck, but that's moot since Deb runs faster than Mandrake anyway. =^^= |
| 18:04.21 | tarzeau | !seen caphuso |
| 18:04.22 | dpkg | caphuso <foobar@p5481D7E3.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 10h 51m 20s ago, saying: 'kzjx'. |
| 18:04.27 | sqbell | takatumi: and two other lines |
| 18:04.31 | tarzeau | someone feel like doing an online irc workshop? |
| 18:04.47 | tarzeau | caphuso our friend has kinda re-activated a longer summerbreak: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/ |
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| 18:05.28 | jpablo | in what package is startx supposed to be ? |
| 18:05.39 | dondelelcaro | !tell jpablo -about search |
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| 18:05.58 | drac | jpablo: You want x-window-system-core. |
| 18:06.00 | WiFiTux | is everyone with Sid, with a broken GAIM? |
| 18:06.02 | ke6isf | sqbell: You'd want to do a dist-upgrade as well, methinks. |
| 18:06.13 | drac | WiFiTux: No, everyone is not with sid. |
| 18:06.17 | takatumi | sqbell: if you want sarge, change 'testing' to read 'sarge', and update; dist-upgrade. (if you have upgraded with the testing line there, you are currently running |
| 18:06.24 | takatumi | etch) |
| 18:06.40 | WiFiTux | drac: you only read half of the question. |
| 18:07.05 | sasKuach | what are some reasons ld would give errors when compiling? what do I need to reinstall? |
| 18:07.11 | PandaKun | =o |
| 18:07.15 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: But a disqualifier of the first half would immediately disqualify the second half, right? |
| 18:07.20 | jpablo | drac already have that, and i don' t have a startx |
| 18:07.31 | xoz | !find startx |
| 18:07.35 | drac | WiFiTux: It was not a question, it was more like a poll. Have you checked BTS? |
| 18:07.40 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'startx' (3): (/usr/bin/startxfce4) in x11/xfce4-utils ;; (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients ;; (/usr/share/selinux/policy/default/domains/misc/startx.te) in admin/selinux-policy-default. |
| 18:07.43 | PandaKun | man |
| 18:07.44 | WiFiTux | ke6isf: no, I'm filtering people with sid, have problems with gaim/ |
| 18:07.46 | PandaKun | no one knows my problem |
| 18:07.56 | sqbell | ke6isf, takatumi: I'll do that, thanks a lot for help. |
| 18:07.57 | ke6isf | WiFiTux: Ah, indeed. |
| 18:07.58 | jpablo | xbase-clients i see, xorg don't let me install that. |
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| 18:08.09 | Trev_ | shorewall rules -> DNAT       net   dmz:192.168.255.110   tcp   25 This should allow forwarding of port 25 (smtp) to my webserver correct ? |
| 18:08.21 | fhffhqvb | PandaKun: inbreeding |
| 18:08.26 | PandaKun | what? |
| 18:08.27 | PandaKun | inbreeding? |
| 18:08.33 | WiFiTux | drac: bts? nah. I can install gaim, but it looks like requires some extra downloads. looks strange. |
| 18:08.44 | drac | !bts |
| 18:08.45 | dpkg | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 18:09.37 | sqbell | takatumi: it says it'll download only 95MB of archieves, is that alright? |
| 18:09.42 | WiFiTux | drac: I know what it is. Is just broken. |
| 18:09.43 | Eulex | PandaKun, you haven't asked anything -- you've just pasted an error message |
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| 18:09.53 | nickv111 | For some reason, X keeps crashing on my Apple iBook running Debian etch, leaving these messages: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kUmrzu58.html |
| 18:10.22 | jpablo | i see, mesa is the problem, i don't really need GL |
| 18:10.55 | takatumi | sqbell: depends on how many packages you have installed and what changed since you last installed it. 95MB looks kinda small though. |
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| 18:11.42 | OleMoudi | I currently have to manually run alsaconf everytime my system starts. What's bad configured or what should I do to get it done automatically? |
| 18:11.59 | GiRlY21 | . |
| 18:11.59 | PerfDave | OleMoudi: Once everything's up and running, run "alsactl save" as root |
| 18:12.04 | sqbell | takatumi: its a server, so no gui at all, apt-get upgrade was done some time before sarge stable, don't know if it has anything to do with that |
| 18:12.07 | PerfDave | OleMoudi: Then that should be restored at bootup. |
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| 18:12.28 | TheAsp | do you have hotplug and discover installed? |
| 18:12.33 | takatumi | sqbell: ok. |
| 18:12.33 | TheAsp | OleMoudi |
| 18:12.43 | OleMoudi | PerfDave, alsactl: Unknown command 'save'... |
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| 18:13.14 | PerfDave | OleMoudi: Sheesh, man alsactl |
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| 18:13.56 | OleMoudi | TheAsp, I'm installing discover right now. would it be enough? |
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| 18:14.08 | OleMoudi | PerfDave, sorry |
| 18:14.20 | TheAsp | OleMoudi: probably, why dont you want hotplug? :) |
| 18:14.49 | OleMoudi | oh, its not that i dont want it. It is already installed |
| 18:14.52 | OleMoudi | I was missing discover |
| 18:14.53 | TheAsp | oh |
| 18:14.55 | TheAsp | weird |
| 18:14.59 | TheAsp | that should have done it too |
| 18:15.08 | pablum | nice, querybts as an "additional report" prompt... |
| 18:15.09 | TheAsp | is it that your mixer isnt being restored? |
| 18:15.11 | jbrandmeyer | I just upgraded from xfree86->xorg, and ran into the strangest problem: I can't switch to one of the text consoles from the graphical one. Anyone else seen this? |
| 18:15.20 | TheAsp | are you running your own kernel? |
| 18:15.28 | GiRlY21 | For apt i use a ftp from canada Usherbrooke, i did a apt-get upgrade but no way to get automake 1.6, how to know which server got this one |
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| 18:15.44 | GiRlY21 | im still with 1.4 |
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| 18:16.20 | OleMoudi | TheAsp, a packaged one. It's just I have to run manually alsaconf everytime my system starts to get sound to work |
| 18:17.03 | OleMoudi | I ran "alsactl store" I hope that will be enough |
| 18:17.27 | takatumi | OleMoudi: just add the modules to /etc/modules, install alsa-base and alsa-utils, run alsamixer and be done with it. |
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| 18:18.07 | GiRlY21 | Perfdave there is a way to know which server got automake 1.6 to add it in apt-get list |
| 18:18.22 | TheAsp | hmm |
| 18:18.26 | xoz | OleMoudi: symlink it to /etc/rc2.d/ from /etc/init.d/ |
| 18:18.46 | OleMoudi | symlink what? |
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| 18:18.58 | rbochan | astronut: any luck? |
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| 18:19.04 | xoz | /etc/init.d/alsaconf |
| 18:19.32 | xoz | OleMoudi: /etc/init.d/alsa |
| 18:20.11 | xoz | OleMoudi: but make sure you added the module for your sound in /etc/modules |
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| 18:20.39 | keenan | how do i get my locale to be en_US.ISO-8859-1 when i'm at the console but en_US.UTF-8 when i'm in gnome? |
| 18:20.44 | priest | someone how know i amsn has a channel here? |
| 18:20.44 | drac | OleMoudi: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base, and you get to choose mixer Saving options. |
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| 18:21.09 | v0L7r[-]n | Were the hell can I find info on nodm |
| 18:21.20 | Eulex | !nodm |
| 18:21.21 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
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| 18:21.39 | Eulex | priest, eh? |
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| 18:22.15 | pablum | #msn ? |
| 18:22.17 | virgomoon | Any of you guys have experience setting up ircd-hybrid? |
| 18:22.23 | priest | Eulex: do you know if amsn's develop team has a channel on this server? |
| 18:22.47 | Eulex | priest, I dunno, have you tried #amsn? |
| 18:22.53 | priest | Eulex: yes :) |
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| 18:23.05 | Eulex | use an irc search engine, there are plenty |
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| 18:23.47 | pablum | !tell priest about freenode |
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| 18:24.21 | sess | is it possible to force X to use a device mapping even when the device is not physically present? |
| 18:24.54 | priest | can dpkg say which version sid has of a package? |
| 18:24.54 | sess | essentially I want my tablet driver and mappings to be forced even if its not plugged in, so that if Im in the middle of an X session and need it, I can plug it in and it will work |
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| 18:25.13 | rbochan | !search xfe sid |
| 18:25.16 | rbochan | oops |
| 18:25.20 | sess | if Its in when I start X, and I unplug it and and plug it back in later (even after using other usb devices) it still works |
| 18:25.23 | rbochan | !find xfe sid |
| 18:25.26 | jbrandmeyer | priest: use apt-cache show |
| 18:25.29 | dpkg | xfe: (lightweight file manager for X11), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.84-1 (sid), Packaged size: 786 kB, Installed size: 2468 kB |
| 18:25.33 | sess | so I don't see why I can't just make X set up those devices |
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| 18:25.42 | rbochan | dpkg: thanks |
| 18:25.43 | dpkg | that's ok |
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| 18:26.11 | priest | jbrandmeyer: i use sarge.. i mean the dpkg-bot in here? |
| 18:26.44 | virgomoon | Is there an ircd channel around? |
| 18:26.56 | PeterB | priest: /msg dpkg info [package] sid |
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| 18:27.02 | priest | thanks |
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| 18:28.20 | bucky | hello dpkg |
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| 18:29.04 | v0L7r[-]n | what the hell I still have gdm |
| 18:29.31 | v0L7r[-]n | all that command did is remove the xdm |
| 18:29.51 | knowledge_ | can someone help me with a little problem? |
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| 18:30.07 | hcy | can someone tell me how to do a simple text replace on a file? I want to change every instance of a double-quotation mark that appears immediately after a carriage-return, to `` |
| 18:30.25 | pablum | v0L7r[-]n, it'll probably do exactly what you tell it to, your computer. |
| 18:30.48 | PeterB | hcy: man sed |
| 18:30.56 | hcy | PeterB: ok thanks |
| 18:31.00 | v0L7r[-]n | so what's the differents between disabling the symlinks and runing !nodm and having to set the display manager later |
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| 18:32.07 | v0L7r[-]n | I'm in runlevel 3 right now by default I dont need to remove all instances of xservers from every runlevel |
| 18:32.20 | v0L7r[-]n | thats lame |
| 18:32.27 | hcy | PeterB: do you know what a newline is inside the s/something/other/ in sed? or how to specify a character at the beginning of a line? |
| 18:32.52 | v0L7r[-]n | I should be able to modify one runlevel symlink and be able to use it for trouble shouting |
| 18:33.12 | v0L7r[-]n | shoot |
| 18:33.34 | PeterB | hcy: s/^foo/bar/ |
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| 18:33.54 | hcy | PeterB: thanks so much |
| 18:34.03 | tarzeau | hi PeterB |
| 18:34.07 | tarzeau | !seen jethro |
| 18:34.07 | dpkg | jethro <~jethro@saje3.docisland.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4d 3h 40m 50s ago, saying: 'ha, I didn't know that one :)'. |
| 18:34.10 | v0L7r[-]n | enough study time to fuck shit up |
| 18:34.12 | PeterB | tarzeau: Hello. |
| 18:34.20 | tarzeau | PeterB: i wonder where jethro and jharrison are. |
| 18:34.29 | PeterB | tarzeau: My nick is 0% lame now, much better :D |
| 18:34.35 | tarzeau | PeterB: i'd liked to play some foony http://bub-n-bros.sf.net with you guys |
| 18:34.51 | PeterB | tarzeau: Maybe. |
| 18:34.58 | PerfDave | v0L7r[-]n: You still don't need to be fucking with runlevels. You've got this totally twisted in your head, and you're just making things worse for yourself. |
| 18:35.17 | v0L7r[-]n | so what the hell then |
| 18:35.26 | tarzeau | !nickometer v0L7r[-]n |
| 18:35.26 | dpkg | 'v0L7r[-]n' is 99.760% lame, tarzeau |
| 18:35.32 | v0L7r[-]n | explicit me |
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| 18:35.57 | pablum | apt-get remove <dm> |
| 18:36.18 | mmiikkee12 | it didn't work |
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| 18:37.00 | bucky | v0L7r[-]n, man update-rc.d |
| 18:37.16 | bucky | v0L7r[-]n, update-rc.d -f gdm remove |
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| 18:37.53 | tarzeau | PerfDave: enjoy your meal, i went shopping last week for very hot curry (hot madras) |
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| 18:38.41 | ke6isf | bucky: Is he STILL harping on about runlevels?! |
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| 18:39.04 | bucky | debian runlevels are confusing |
| 18:39.34 | v0L7r[-]n | why have many if there all the same shit |
| 18:39.35 | virgomoon | What does this line mean from ircd-hybrid on entering auth mode: "Only few of mere mortals may try to enter the twilight zone" ? |
| 18:39.38 | ke6isf | bucky: He's been asking hte same questions for days now. |
| 18:39.40 | pablum | raita... raita! |
| 18:39.43 | v0L7r[-]n | what a waste |
| 18:39.53 | bucky | ke6isf, hehe that's funny |
| 18:40.06 | bucky | v0L7r[-]n, go back to redhat |
| 18:40.07 | ke6isf | virgomoon: Exactly what it says. |
| 18:40.13 | v0L7r[-]n | I've been researching and trouble shooting dick nuts |
| 18:40.18 | astronut | virgomoon: they have lots of silly messages |
| 18:40.28 | virgomoon | ke6isf: is that a good oper password or not? |
| 18:40.31 | v0L7r[-]n | fuck you |
| 18:40.35 | ke6isf | !beer bucky |
| 18:40.41 | dpower | !beer asdgslkjg |
| 18:40.51 | bucky | v0L7r[-]n, no thanks.. i've already been fucked by a jew |
| 18:40.52 | dpower | !beer dpower |
| 18:41.01 | ke6isf | virgomoon: I haven't the foggiest idea. |
| 18:41.01 | dpower | wtf is that |
| 18:41.01 | dpower | Boddingtons? |
| 18:41.16 | stew | v0L7r[-]n: chill out, use /ignore |
| 18:41.23 | PeterB | dpower: Beer apparently :) |
| 18:41.27 | dpower | thx |
| 18:41.36 | ke6isf | dpower: Some british beer, as I recall. |
| 18:41.40 | dpower | ic |
| 18:41.41 | virgomoon | Normally, if I enter the wrong password, it'll say 'Invalid password' or some such. But I still can't do an oper-like things |
| 18:42.06 | pablum | darker than coors |
| 18:42.08 | stew | bucky: i don't know what you were trying to say about "jews" but please don't make such comments |
| 18:42.13 | ke6isf | Then it probably was a bad passwd. |
| 18:42.31 | ke6isf | stew: Relax, I suspect it was in response to the troll. |
| 18:42.49 | stew | ke6isf: i don't care what it was in response to, its not appropriate |
| 18:42.58 | rbochan | v0L7r[-]n: clicky clicky... http://colt.projectgamma.com/debguide/en/#SYSMGMT-RUNLEVELS |
| 18:43.00 | virgomoon | that's what I was thinking, but I can't figure out how to set it up correctly. I'm following what docs I've got, but IRC docs are woefully incomplete |
| 18:43.04 | Pingu12- | is there an array in the apt-config where I can register exceptions for apt-upgrade ? |
| 18:43.12 | Pingu12- | ( with regex ) |
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| 18:43.54 | magyar | is there a client like "shareaza" for debian that allowas running "donkey,gnutella and torrents"? |
| 18:43.58 | kurtak | I'm curious if any of ya know why i keep experiencing problems when trying to compile 2.6.11.11 and 2.6.11.12 kernel with make-kpkg. Basically my steps are 1) make menuconfig, load previous config file, save it as new kernel configuration; 2) make-kpkg kernel-image 3) wait, and then i always get a slew of errors until it quits, the first error being "drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:37: error: 'DRM' as function returning a funtion" |
| 18:44.04 | v0L7r[-]n | you fucken puss humping toads |
| 18:44.22 | stew | v0L7r[-]n: stop |
| 18:44.22 | rbochan | goodbye |
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| 18:44.50 | tzafrir_home | regarding the Dell PowerEdge 2800 I asked about earlier: supported. No problem. |
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| 18:44.53 | kurtak | I get my kernel sources from www.kernel.org. any hints on how to overcome this?? |
| 18:45.19 | astronut | kurtak: don't do config that way |
| 18:45.22 | astronut | get your old config |
| 18:45.23 | astronut | put it in |
| 18:45.23 | pablum | v0L7r[-]n enters /ignore (who'da thought?) |
| 18:45.26 | astronut | then do "make oldconfig" |
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| 18:45.36 | stew | kurtak: are you running make oldconfig after you copy and old .config file? what version of debian? |
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| 18:45.46 | v0L7r[-]n | pablum you a fag to |
| 18:45.49 | err0rr | is there any way to make rsync run slowly, like if i am mirroring a drive and i dont want to stress the hell out of the hd's |
| 18:45.59 | stew | !ops v0L7r[-]n needs a +q |
| 18:45.59 | kurtak | stew: honestly, i did make oldconfig before doing make menuconfig |
| 18:46.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: v0L7r[-]n needs a +q |
| 18:46.00 | v0L7r[-]n | wheres the love |
| 18:46.09 | Ronin | nice to see v0L7r[-]n is still on a roll |
| 18:46.09 | stew | kurtak: what version of debian / gcc? |
| 18:46.13 | ke6isf | I need to be entertained. |
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| 18:46.26 | v0L7r[-]n | gang up on v0L7r[-]n |
| 18:46.27 | ke6isf | v0L7r[-]n will do nicely for the purpose. |
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| 18:46.33 | miloS | halo! |
| 18:46.35 | miloS | :) |
| 18:47.02 | kurtak | stew: debian is sid netinstall, gcc --version says "gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-5)" |
| 18:47.10 | knowledge_ | follow the guidelines to make a kernel from there <-----what does this mean? |
| 18:47.27 | miloS | which cd's would i require to download for debian instalation? |
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| 18:47.36 | teprrr | http://pastebin.com/315147 -- is there anything I can do to make it work? |
| 18:47.37 | astronut | miloS: depends on install type |
| 18:47.47 | miloS | standard. |
| 18:47.51 | Ronin | miloS: just one usually and the rest can be installed with apt-get |
| 18:47.57 | teprrr | miloS, netinstall is fine, if you've connection available |
| 18:47.58 | astronut | miloS: you doing a network install? |
| 18:47.59 | miloS | ok. |
| 18:48.02 | astronut | you can get by with the mini cd |
| 18:48.06 | mmiikkee12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.08 | ke6isf | aw, damn, I couldn't even play with him. |
| 18:48.16 | rbochan | mmiikkee12: asked and answered |
| 18:48.24 | Ronin | ke6isf: be patient, i bet it will return |
| 18:48.25 | Eulex | teprrr, ubuntu??? |
| 18:48.25 | mmiikkee12 | it didn't work... |
| 18:48.29 | miloS | i have problams with my modem to get it working with linux aswell. |
| 18:48.35 | miloS | D-link 200 usb modem. |
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| 18:48.45 | ke6isf | Ronin: No time soon, I'm sure. He may have just gotten bored with us. |
| 18:48.47 | astronut | miloS: my first debian install was with 6 floppies (actually, 2, and rewrote images on them) |
| 18:48.49 | ke6isf | !knoppixsmite frosted |
| 18:48.57 | teprrr | Eulex, right |
| 18:49.02 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 18:49.02 | dpkg | ubuntu is probably a see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 or "Based on Debian" |
| 18:49.07 | stew | kurtak: i ask about gcc becuase i believe sid has 4.0 which shouldn't be used to compile kernels yet |
| 18:49.10 | Eulex | !based on debian |
| 18:49.10 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 18:49.10 | kurtak | astronut: okay... but then someone else here before told me that 'make oldconfig' isn't normally done with make-kpkg |
| 18:49.18 | teprrr | Eulex, trying to install it with debian's apt |
| 18:49.19 | astronut | lindows is debian based? |
| 18:49.26 | stew | astronut: yes |
| 18:49.32 | astronut | kurtak: it's what i do |
| 18:49.41 | kurtak | stew: i may have forgotten the exact debian version. how do i figure that out? |
| 18:49.43 | Eulex | teprrr, it's still ubuntu -- go ask in #ubuntu |
| 18:49.50 | teprrr | and that looks like problem with apt |
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| 18:50.17 | teprrr | but well, I'll go and ask there too |
| 18:50.20 | stew | kurtak: look for testing | unstable | sarge | sid | woody | etch in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:50.24 | Eulex | teprrr, what you're saying is that you've installed debian's version of apt on ubuntu?? |
| 18:50.31 | bucky | kurtak, are you using debian sources or kernel source from kernel.org? |
| 18:50.35 | teprrr | Eulex, no, this is debian I've here |
| 18:50.46 | teprrr | Eulex, I'm trying to convert it to (k)ubuntu |
| 18:50.49 | ke6isf | teprrr: Ubuntu is Debian like pork is kosher. |
| 18:50.57 | nerdy2 | heh |
| 18:51.07 | astronut | that makes no sense (speaking as a jew) |
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| 18:51.10 | Eulex | teprrr, not recommended and we cannot give support for that |
| 18:51.15 | kurtak | stew: oh, i think i meant "sarge" there's "testing" in sources.list |
| 18:51.27 | stew | kurtak: sarge is stable, not testing |
| 18:51.28 | kurtak | bucky: kernel source |
| 18:51.30 | ke6isf | teprrr: If you want Debian, install Debian. |
| 18:51.33 | teprrr | Eulex, yup, I know.. |
| 18:51.35 | ke6isf | astronut: ...it's not. |
| 18:51.46 | kurtak | stew: sarge was testing not too long ago, or? |
| 18:51.47 | miloS | would use recommend me use woody/sarge/knoppix? i would like to use it as a desktop os? |
| 18:51.49 | Eulex | teprrr, what you'll end up with is neither ubuntu nor debian -- you'll get a hybrid |
| 18:51.51 | teprrr | ke6isf, well, I've had debian for some time now.. |
| 18:51.51 | bucky | kurtak, did you apt-get that kernel source? |
| 18:51.53 | astronut | ke6isf: what's not? |
| 18:51.56 | stew | kurtak: yes (/topic) |
| 18:52.01 | Eulex | miloS, sarge |
| 18:52.05 | miloS | yeah. |
| 18:52.08 | kurtak | bucky: no, downloaded from kernel.org |
| 18:52.15 | ke6isf | astronut: ubuntu is not debian, pork isn't kosher. |
| 18:52.28 | miloS | Eulex would it be good for gaming? |
| 18:52.44 | astronut | ke6isf: yes, but your'e comparing noun to noun, and noun to adjective |
| 18:52.45 | Eulex | !good |
| 18:52.45 | dpkg | methinks better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 18:52.57 | kurtak | stew: so i got my initial debian install as a sarge netinstall, when it was still "testing" |
| 18:53.00 | Eulex | miloS, what do you mean by "gaming"? |
| 18:53.07 | ke6isf | astronut: Bad form, but it's the best I can think of in two seconds. I may just need more coffee. =^^= |
| 18:53.08 | stew | kurtak: sounds like it |
| 18:53.11 | miloS | to play games on. |
| 18:53.15 | astronut | ke6isf: better would be ubuntu is to debian as christianity is to judiasm |
| 18:53.25 | miloS | eg, battel field / counter-strike. |
| 18:53.46 | miloS | i`v been on FreeBSD for almost 1 year. |
| 18:53.52 | ke6isf | astronut: Yeah, well said. Thanks. |
| 18:53.54 | astronut | battlefield has a linux version? |
| 18:54.07 | kurtak | stew: then is it still okay that "testing" is still part of my sources, or should i change those to stable? |
| 18:54.14 | miloS | i dont wonna format freebsd and go to debian then format and go back to freebbsd. |
| 18:54.16 | Eulex | miloS, what you need to do is get your 3d card to work and then instal and configure wine |
| 18:54.30 | miloS | yeah. |
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| 18:54.36 | Eulex | miloS, and sure, if freebsd can do it, debian can do it |
| 18:54.40 | ke6isf | !beer astronut |
| 18:54.54 | stew | kurtak: no you dont' want to mix testing and stable |
| 18:55.02 | miloS | i play games in terminal / snake! |
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| 18:55.18 | miloS | :) |
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| 18:55.46 | kurtak | bucky: i wanted to apply some patches to the source which is why i didn't apt-get them. is there a better way i should go about this? |
| 18:55.52 | denisbr | Good Afternoon, How I start cups in Debian? |
| 18:55.55 | Rockret | how to make un-install of samba in debian 3.1 ? |
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| 18:56.28 | bucky | kurtak, no.. you know what you're doing |
| 18:56.28 | pablum | denisbr, /etc/init.d/cupsys |
| 18:56.39 | magyar | is there a client like "shareaza" for debian that allowas running "donkey,gnutella and bt" clients ? |
| 18:56.39 | stew | kurtak: which patches |
| 18:56.40 | pablum | er... start |
| 18:56.56 | denisbr | pablum: thanks |
| 18:57.06 | mmiikkee12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.14 | kurtak | stew: a radeon video driver patch so that it shuts down completely during sleep (suspend to ram or disk), b/c i have a thinkpad |
| 18:57.47 | ke6isf | mmiikkee12: Still no. Get a real NIC. |
| 18:57.51 | pablum | !kp |
| 18:57.51 | dpkg | from memory, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
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| 18:58.10 | kurtak | stew: and i also wanted to compile with compatibilities enabled, so that a sound producing software doesn't have to be run as root |
| 18:58.12 | norton | when a security hole is reported in apache, is the solution to upgrade to a newer version, or does apache make patches to secure the current version? |
| 18:58.16 | Eulex | mmiikkee12, google -- if there is one, you'll find it |
| 18:58.21 | Rockret | does anyone knows how to un-install samba ? |
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| 18:58.27 | ke6isf | Eulex: you missed. =^^= |
| 18:58.29 | stew | kurtak: why would sound software need to run as root? |
| 18:58.38 | Eulex | ke6isf, I most probably did |
| 18:58.56 | Eulex | Rockret, apt-get remove it? |
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| 18:59.03 | stew | kurtak: adduser kurtak audio ; logout and login again |
| 18:59.33 | kurtak | stew: it uses jack to spawn multiple instances, or something like this |
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| 18:59.50 | denisbr | The printconf is not running here, message error is Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 18:59.50 | denisbr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.50 | denisbr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.51 | denisbr | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'queues' |
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| 18:59.56 | Rockret | Eulex, I did but nothing to remove with apt-get remove samba |
| 19:00.00 | denisbr | Sorry for flood |
| 19:00.04 | PeterB | !tell denisbr about paste |
| 19:00.19 | pablum | #paste, even |
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| 19:01.07 | astronut | s/#paste/#flood |
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| 19:01.34 | ke6isf | Can somebody unsmite frosted? |
| 19:01.34 | Rockret | how do I can check if samba is running in my debian 3.1 ? |
| 19:01.55 | pablum | ooyeha |
| 19:02.17 | kurtak | stew: it's SuperCollider which is a realtime synthesizer and it has a server that connects with jackd, and i've just read that if you want to use it w/o being root, you have to have the realtime compatibilites enabled in the kernel source |
| 19:02.22 | tarzeau | Rockret: server or client? |
| 19:02.25 | valdyn | Rockret: why do you think samba is installed? |
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| 19:02.48 | Rockret | defulat installation ... debian 3.1 |
| 19:02.48 | mud | Rockret: ps -e | less gives process list |
| 19:02.58 | Pepper18 | Hi! I've go a question about the debian-sarge squishdot-package: Why do I need zope 2.6 even if zope2.7 is installed? |
| 19:03.02 | Rockret | let me try |
| 19:03.13 | kurtak | stew: but the sleeping problem is more important, so i have to apply a radeon patch to get that to work |
| 19:03.20 | zoid | anyone have any issues with nvidia drivers and upgrading to xserver-xorg? (it seg faults on me now, no other helpful errors either!) |
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| 19:03.33 | tarzeau | zoid: no |
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| 19:03.50 | valdyn | kurtak: you probably mean cababilities. |
| 19:03.54 | valdyn | kurtak: you probably mean capabilities. |
| 19:03.55 | zoid | hmm, wonder what could be causing this |
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| 19:04.06 | zoid | tarzeau: any idea on a good way to troubleshoot this? |
| 19:04.10 | kurtak | valdyn: yes, capabilities! |
| 19:04.28 | tarzeau | zoid: neither |
| 19:04.30 | tvn | how do I tell apache2 to not allow access to any directory with name ".something" |
| 19:04.34 | paster | "Denis" at 200.138.255.99 pasted "The printconf is not running h" (4 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/375 |
| 19:04.52 | Pepper18 | squishdot depends on zope (>...), and zope2.7 provides zope, but apt is still trying to install zope (2.6) |
| 19:04.59 | bodq | does anybody know when will wxPython for wx 2.6 be available in debian? |
| 19:04.59 | kurtak | stew: so you would just do 'make oldconfig' then make-kpkg? |
| 19:05.04 | stew | yes |
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| 19:05.10 | tarzeau | Pepper18: install the one you want manually? |
| 19:05.19 | tarzeau | Pepper18: if it also provides zope, it should be fine |
| 19:05.30 | kurtak | stew: i mean, make-kpkg kernel-image... okay, i'll try that and see what happens |
| 19:05.35 | Pepper18 | yes. don. after install squishdot zope (2.6) is installed additionally. |
| 19:05.36 | tarzeau | kurtak: wiht _ not - |
| 19:05.46 | valdyn | !info supercollider sarge |
| 19:05.54 | tarzeau | Pepper18: does it have a depends on it , a versioned one? |
| 19:05.59 | Pepper18 | so zope 2.6 and 2.7 is running |
| 19:06.03 | valdyn | !info supercollider sid |
| 19:06.04 | kurtak | tarzeau: hm? make-kpkg kernel_image? |
| 19:06.09 | dpkg | supercollider: (realtime sound synthesis server and network language interpreter), section sound, is optional. Version: 20050624-1 (sid), Packaged size: 339 kB, Installed size: 2044 kB |
| 19:06.21 | tarzeau | kurtak: yeah, i have my notes here , www.linuks.mine.nu/make-kpkg/ |
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| 19:06.27 | Pepper18 | squishdot: Depends: zope (>= 2.3.2) |
| 19:06.27 | sqbell | is amd k6-2 686 cpu ? |
| 19:06.41 | Pepper18 | zope2.7: Provides: zope |
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| 19:06.51 | Pepper18 | zope (2.6) is still installed.... |
| 19:06.58 | cahoot | tarzeau: the - works too in my experience |
| 19:06.59 | tarzeau | kurtak: and also my kernels: http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/kernel-2.4.31/ |
| 19:07.07 | tarzeau | cahoot: oh ;) i didn't know |
| 19:07.10 | ke6isf | !unknoppixsmite frosted |
| 19:07.20 | tarzeau | Pepper18: you're using aptitude or apt-get ? |
| 19:07.27 | Pepper18 | apt |
| 19:07.30 | tarzeau | Pepper18: you have debian and not something based on it? |
| 19:07.37 | Pepper18 | debian |
| 19:07.38 | tarzeau | sqbell: yes |
| 19:07.39 | Pepper18 | sarge |
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| 19:07.45 | Eulex | sqbell, an amd k6-2 is fully capable of running code produced for 686 cpus. what is your question? |
| 19:07.53 | kurtak | tarzeau: ah nice. the --initrd makes it build-in the initrd image? |
| 19:07.56 | Pepper18 | tarzeau: will try aptitude |
| 19:07.57 | sqbell | thanks a lot |
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| 19:08.06 | tarzeau | kurtak: yes |
| 19:08.07 | sqbell | Eulex: i was choosing kernel image |
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| 19:08.32 | tarzeau | kurtak: but really the -rev is the best option ;) |
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| 19:08.55 | sqbell | Eulex: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 is the best choice for me then |
| 19:09.04 | Pepper18 | tarzeau: aptitude squisdot: NEW: python2.2 .... zope zopectl..... |
| 19:09.12 | kurtak | tarzeau: why's that? i've always been curious, it's totally optionaly, right? |
| 19:09.14 | Pepper18 | tarzeau: aptitude doesn't solve the problem. |
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| 19:10.38 | hid3 | Hello everyone.. Is there any way to send a plain text message to a user connected via ssh to my machine? |
| 19:10.46 | tarzeau | kurtak: yep, depends how you configure your linux kernel |
| 19:10.50 | drac | hid3: echo <message here> | wall |
| 19:10.53 | tarzeau | kurtak: like fs code modular or in |
| 19:11.00 | tarzeau | Pepper18: i don't know then, sorry |
| 19:11.14 | hid3 | drac: thanks a lot |
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| 19:11.27 | tarzeau | drac: if the user didn't turn it off using mesg |
| 19:11.34 | Pepper18 | tarzeau: any idea whom I can ask, or shall I just open a bugreport? |
| 19:11.47 | tarzeau | Pepper18: nah, try ask again in 8 and 16 hours |
| 19:11.49 | Zibar | hi all - im trying to find the best drivers for my ati radeon x600 pro card ... ati's website hosts 2 driver sets ... one called radeon 8500 and higher and a firegl series .... im planning to install cedega later on so i want max performance and stability ... any advice ?' |
| 19:12.09 | kurtak | tarzeau, stew, valdyn, bucky, astronut: thanks guys! i'll try again with your help. much appreciated... |
| 19:12.20 | valdyn | Zibar: look at the drivers, they used to be identical |
| 19:12.29 | Pepper18 | tarzeau: thx. |
| 19:12.34 | Zibar | oh |
| 19:12.36 | valdyn | Zibar: beside that.. /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 19:12.42 | Zibar | thx |
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| 19:13.11 | black_Nightmare | hey there |
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| 19:14.10 | shai_ | what port do I need to forward for an Ident daemon? |
| 19:14.24 | black_Nightmare | just a dumb question but..it wouldn't harm any warrenty to install linux onto a name pc and still able to get it serviced for hardware difficulity as long as you're willing to lose linux on the hd? |
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| 19:15.15 | nickv111 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/kUmrzu58.html |
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| 19:15.20 | ke6isf | black_Nightmare: Check your warranty conditions and their support staff. It might void it by removing the OS. |
| 19:15.22 | tarzeau | black_Nightmare: yep |
| 19:15.39 | tarzeau | ke6isf: seriously? who does that ? |
| 19:15.53 | black_Nightmare | ke6...isn't os just supposed to be ratherly a "installed software" ? it doesn't even change the hardwares at all |
| 19:16.12 | nickv111 | Actually, many computer makers say that if you use Linux you void the warranty |
| 19:16.14 | black_Nightmare | tarzeau...ty anyhow, was curious about a new gateway and trying load debian onto it instead |
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| 19:16.21 | ke6isf | tarzeau: Just a theory. Not many people support Linux. |
| 19:16.25 | black_Nightmare | nickv...must be MS's monopoly bullshit as usual |
| 19:16.44 | ke6isf | black_Nightmare: you'd think, but just ask them about Linux. =O.o= |
| 19:16.44 | tarzeau | ke6isf: this wasn't about linux support. but hardware warranty |
| 19:16.45 | black_Nightmare | nickv.. compaq tried to offer ms/linux option years ago but MS said they wouldn't support compaq unless compaq only offered windows os |
| 19:16.56 | ke6isf | tarzeau: True, true. |
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| 19:17.09 | tarzeau | black_Nightmare: i wouldn't ask them, just remove the harddisk before you return the pc for warranty |
| 19:17.19 | nickv111 | black_Nightmare: Well, the same goes for Apple... Your warranty is void if you, like me, run Linux on your apple |
| 19:17.20 | tarzeau | black_Nightmare: that way you can also keep your software/setup |
| 19:17.26 | tarzeau | nickv111: crap! |
| 19:17.29 | ke6isf | tarzeau: Heh, wonder if they'll replace the disk if you do that. =^^= |
| 19:17.44 | tarzeau | ke6isf: you can certainly replace the disk yourself |
| 19:17.48 | nickv111 | tarzeau: What? |
| 19:17.56 | tarzeau | nickv111: i run linux too on my ibook |
| 19:18.03 | ke6isf | tarzeau: Indeed. |
| 19:18.05 | tarzeau | nickv111: and if hardware breaks, i can return it and get it replaced |
| 19:18.09 | nite613 | Is there no unrar package anymore? |
| 19:18.11 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Yeah. I have run Linux on my iBook for a long time |
| 19:18.13 | black_Nightmare | so does that mean my warrenty would also be void if I install a retail windows os over the pre-included windows os that came with the system even if both are the same version?? |
| 19:18.14 | nickv111 | Er |
| 19:18.18 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Have run* |
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| 19:18.29 | tarzeau | nickv111: your warranty is not void if you run linux |
| 19:18.31 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Erm... That's what I said |
| 19:18.41 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Well, Apple told me it was |
| 19:18.44 | tarzeau | nickv111: who? |
| 19:18.53 | tarzeau | nickv111: apple didn't. some idiot did |
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| 19:19.00 | Eulex | sqbell, ok -- then the 686 kernel image is a good choice |
| 19:19.03 | black_Nightmare | nickv..obviously apple and ms are so afraid of any "not owned by them" os on their own systems |
| 19:19.08 | black_Nightmare | this is what it sound like |
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| 19:19.17 | nickv111 | tarzeau: I see... |
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| 19:19.30 | tarzeau | nickv111: you're in the us? |
| 19:19.32 | nickv111 | tarzeau: I've just been having troubles with X on my laptop |
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| 19:19.34 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Yes |
| 19:19.46 | nickv111 | tarzeau: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kUmrzu58.html <-- My problem :-\ |
| 19:19.46 | black_Nightmare | hmm wait.....that makes me thinking..one second |
| 19:19.47 | tarzeau | nickv111: software troubles? |
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| 19:19.59 | Overand | ok |
| 19:20.03 | nickv111 | tarzeau: X is giving very vague errors |
| 19:20.16 | Overand | when i cat a really ugly binary file, sometimes my console gets 'stiuck' displaying upper ascii instead of text |
| 19:20.21 | seven_six_two | i'm using sarge on a new wd-120gb hd and for some reason my computer keeps crashing. the only errors i can find are at the end of my kern.log. I'm using 2.6.8-2-k7 and when the error occurs, the only thing i can do is ctrl+sysrq+rseiub and then an fsck after. i posted my error at http://rafb.net/paste/results/IQL5vH45.html |
| 19:20.22 | tarzeau | nickv111: no idea. tried #debianppc ? what mac do you ahve exactly? |
| 19:20.22 | Overand | any fix other than closing it down and opening a new one? |
| 19:20.26 | nite613 | Anyone? unrar? It says E: Package unrar has no installation candidate |
| 19:20.30 | nite613 | what is the replacement? |
| 19:20.40 | tarzeau | nite613: try apt-cache search |
| 19:20.44 | nairb | i'd like to change my uid in /etc/passwd. can I just chown recursively my homdir? Are there scripts to handle this? Any gotchas? |
| 19:20.44 | nite613 | I did |
| 19:20.46 | PeterB | Overand: reset |
| 19:20.51 | nickv111 | tarzeau: It seems that #DebianPPC is dead... |
| 19:21.05 | nickv111 | tarzeau: I have an Apple iBook Late 2001... ATi video card |
| 19:21.14 | tarzeau | nickv111: ibook dual g3 700? |
| 19:21.21 | Overand | PeterB: ha. |
| 19:21.24 | Overand | thanks |
| 19:21.25 | tarzeau | s/dual/dual usb/ |
| 19:21.30 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Well, 600Mhz |
| 19:21.37 | tarzeau | heh i have a very similar one |
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| 19:21.52 | tarzeau | nickv111: no idea if it helps, www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/powerpc/ |
| 19:21.54 | LinuxDude | hmm, i just installed Sarge, but i dont have /etc/dir_colors, any fix? |
| 19:22.02 | seven_six_two | now booting says /sbin/init: file not found |
| 19:22.09 | Error_X | Is there any firewall-test programs for linux? I mean, a program that tries to hack yourself.. |
| 19:22.13 | Eulex | LinuxDude, I don't have it either |
| 19:22.13 | resiak | !tell LinuxDude about lscolours |
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| 19:22.21 | nite613 | I've noticed that in unstable there is unrar-free and in woody/sarge it was "nonfree". Does that mean it's currently just missing in etch? |
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| 19:22.43 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Do you have ATi? |
| 19:22.50 | nite613 | How do I safely (?) install unrar-free from unstable on etch? |
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| 19:23.13 | PeterB | !tell LinuxDude about dircolors |
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| 19:23.27 | Eulex | nite613, I have both unrar-nonfree and unrar-free here in etch |
| 19:23.54 | pablum | !tell LinuxDude about coreutils |
| 19:23.57 | tarzeau | nickv111: i think so, yes |
| 19:24.07 | Eulex | nite613, no need to use unstable packages |
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| 19:24.24 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Whenever you use anything other than 1024x768 with X, does it jumble your screen? |
| 19:24.41 | nite613 | Eulex: Really? Maybe my source (yorku) is just bad? |
| 19:24.45 | nickv111 | tarzeau: That happens with any distro I try |
| 19:24.52 | nite613 | deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ testing main |
| 19:24.54 | Eulex | nite613, yorku? |
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| 19:25.05 | frosted | hello |
| 19:25.12 | seven_six_two | york university in toronto |
| 19:25.34 | tarzeau | nickv111: i can run 800x600 also |
| 19:25.36 | nite613 | yar. It apparently does't have unrar? I guess I'll try adding the main debian US server |
| 19:25.43 | nickv111 | tarzeau: I don't think I can even do that |
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| 19:25.52 | tarzeau | nickv111: but i really run 1024x768 only |
| 19:26.27 | seven_six_two | nite613, i usually just google for unrar debian and install it from the web |
| 19:26.37 | seven_six_two | works fine every time |
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| 19:27.13 | frosted | i am trying to zcat the netboot image to a fresh partition tho i am not sure if i should use the tarball or the initrd (ive only installed from cd or floppy before so this concept is new to me) |
| 19:27.25 | nite613 | seven_six_two: I prefer to use packages from my apt tree only, makes it easier to sort out problems. I suppose unrar is unlikely to cause problems though |
| 19:27.41 | frosted | i wonder if someone here could perhaps point me in the right direction |
| 19:27.44 | seven_six_two | nite613, i can never find it in the repos. just the free version which never works right for me |
| 19:27.54 | Eulex | hmm -- http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=unrar&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 19:28.09 | Xodarap | When I try to boot from a floppy to install debian, all I get is a message saying "Boot failed" could anyone give me some help? |
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| 19:28.38 | pablum | frosted, zcat? I'm confused. isn't dd the appropriate tool for an image->partition? |
| 19:28.44 | pingu12- | is there a tool in debian which helps to read the rest-capacity of my notebook-battery ? |
| 19:28.53 | Eulex | it has just got unrar-free in unstable, and then it's named unrar and not unrar-nonfree |
| 19:29.01 | tarzeau | pablum: he does it wrong. you're right |
| 19:29.13 | tarzeau | pingu12-: there's plenty yes |
| 19:29.20 | tarzeau | pingu12-: tried apt-cache search yet? |
| 19:29.29 | Eulex | though I've got both unrar-nonfree and unrar-free here in etch |
| 19:29.32 | pingu12- | tarzeau: which keyword ? |
| 19:29.36 | frosted | pablum: i was trying to use the method described in the faq 4.4 where someone might use a usb memory stick |
| 19:29.37 | qpee | hi upgraded to etch (mistake) and now evolution is broken. i need it badly as all my appointments are in there. i know that i should not run testing if i need something stable, but it happened now, and i'm stuck. could i somehow "downgrade" or can i see if this bug is mentioned anywhere and will be resolved soon? |
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| 19:29.40 | tarzeau | pingu12-: battery |
| 19:29.48 | tarzeau | !battery |
| 19:29.48 | nite613 | pingu12-: apm or acpi depending on which your machine supports. You'll need the kernel modules too, though they should already be there |
| 19:29.58 | pablum | frosted, which faq? |
| 19:29.59 | Amce | authvchkpw for courier imap |
| 19:30.09 | Amce | please |
| 19:30.11 | frosted | pablum 4.4.1 copying files the easy way |
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| 19:30.18 | frosted | pablum: the install faq |
| 19:30.20 | Eulex | qpee, bts |
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| 19:30.34 | pablum | frosted, that's for a compressed image |
| 19:30.36 | frosted | pablum: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en#usb-copy-easy |
| 19:30.45 | v0L7r[-]n | should auto work for mountinf a floppy |
| 19:31.01 | v0L7r[-]n | auto for filesystem type |
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| 19:31.16 | frosted | right i was trying to use the compressed image in the hd-image but thru reading i find it doesnt have network drivers |
| 19:31.21 | streuner | apt, nickometer v0L7r[-]n |
| 19:31.30 | v0L7r[-]n | getting better |
| 19:31.31 | pingu12- | tarzeau: ok, didnt think of the apt-cache mit it helped :P |
| 19:31.56 | Ronin | ke6isf: we didn't happen to make a bet on the time frame did we? |
| 19:32.04 | tarzeau | hi streuner |
| 19:32.13 | streuner | tarzeau: hey |
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| 19:32.47 | frosted | pablum: the faq describes that hd-media/boot.img.gz does not contain network drivers |
| 19:32.53 | v0L7r[-]n | mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/cdrom |
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| 19:33.18 | resiak | fpitt: Why did you use /me then? |
| 19:33.31 | dreamskm | hello! I have a simple question, and google |
| 19:33.34 | dreamskm | 's not helping me |
| 19:33.36 | fpitt | resiak, sorry |
| 19:33.45 | resiak | fpitt: I'm just wondering why people do that. |
| 19:33.48 | dreamskm | how can I change the password of a user without requiring interactive input? |
| 19:34.07 | dreamskm | i.e. how to pipe stuff to e.g. passwd so that it doesn't ask interactively? |
| 19:34.12 | PeterB | resiak: Because you usually get a star before your nick :| |
| 19:34.27 | resiak | PeterB: Erm, and that means that it's an action. |
| 19:34.29 | pablum | frosted, then (unless you find one that does) you can't install the "easy way" |
| 19:34.52 | zinx | omg ctcp hax |
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| 19:34.55 | qpee | Eulex: thx |
| 19:35.02 | PeterB | resiak: I know that. Some don't. |
| 19:35.06 | frosted | pablum: perhaps i incorrectly assumed the netboot image would be sufficient |
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| 19:35.22 | fpitt | resiak, in any case I thought that the salute was education norm |
| 19:35.51 | pablum | it's probably just fine if it is a compressed image and you are using zcat. |
| 19:35.54 | dreamskm | alternatively, how can I simply authenticate a user without requiring interactive input? |
| 19:35.55 | Eulex | !thx |
| 19:35.55 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 19:35.55 | pablum | er. frosted |
| 19:35.56 | resiak | fpitt: I thought that the standard way to say "hi" is to type "hi" and hit enter. ;) |
| 19:36.32 | fpitt | resiak, ok, i will remember this thing for the next time.. |
| 19:36.36 | frosted | pablum: there is a compressed image in a nested directory called initrd.gz |
| 19:36.51 | frosted | not sure if this is what i am looking for |
| 19:36.53 | pablum | that's not the same thing as a filesystem image. |
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| 19:36.59 | frosted | doh |
| 19:37.02 | resiak | fpitt: *shrug* I've just never understood, is all. |
| 19:37.21 | fpitt | resiak, ok peace and love :) |
| 19:37.37 | pablum | that's a file that is stored on the netboot filesystem image |
| 19:37.43 | frosted | ive only installed from cd before this whole disk image thing is new to me |
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| 19:38.57 | frosted | pablum: ok ... any ideas then? i dont wish to use floppies =) |
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| 19:39.51 | black_Nightmare | sorry if this is slight OT but...is it possible to make windows os being able to read ext3 or jrs (what was that spelling again?) formatted partitions? |
| 19:40.03 | DanC | hmm... my ubuntu box has a GUI tool for hald, I think; I don't see it on my debian sid box. |
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| 19:40.42 | seven_six_two | black_Nightmare, you can use samba |
| 19:40.47 | pablum | frosted, do you want to install with a netinst version of the debian installer, or do you want to do a netboot of a (maybe diskless) debian system |
| 19:40.48 | pablum | ? |
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| 19:41.10 | black_Nightmare | seven_six...just curious but is that difficult to install? (for winxp) |
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| 19:41.42 | DanC | maybe "hal-device-manager - Hardware Abstraction Layer user interface" is it... |
| 19:41.51 | seven_six_two | black_Nightmare, it's a linux server...oh you mean access it on the same pc while running windows? i don't think so |
| 19:42.27 | seven_six_two | black_Nightmare, windows doesn't want you to be able to i wouldn't think |
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| 19:42.32 | black_Nightmare | hm I thought someone had told me windows could be made to read ext3/jrs ...... ugh |
| 19:42.49 | DanC | hmm... installed it, but I don't see it in the gnome menus. I don't have to restart anything, do I? |
| 19:42.58 | Ronin | isnt there an app out that can do that? black_Nightmare you look on google? |
| 19:43.10 | pablum | frosted, and what architecture? |
| 19:43.15 | Zibar_ | got disconnected ... :S ... any idea why i cant run make-dpkg ? it just gives me a command not found |
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| 19:43.33 | PeterB | black_Nightmare: 437,000 hits in Google for 'windows ext3' ;) |
| 19:43.37 | Eulex | Zibar, you mean make-kpkg? |
| 19:43.54 | nickv111 | tarzeau: OK, I'm stumped |
| 19:43.59 | Zibar | yes |
| 19:44.04 | Zibar | sry |
| 19:44.10 | DanC | hal can clearly see this USB flash disk. is there some mechanism whereby it gets automatically mounted? |
| 19:44.11 | Eulex | Zibar, install kernel-package |
| 19:44.16 | seven_six_two | black_Nightmare, try this maybe: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm |
| 19:44.16 | Zibar | thx |
| 19:44.18 | covux | black_Nightmare: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm <- maybe this helps |
| 19:44.22 | Eulex | !thx |
| 19:44.22 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 19:44.24 | nickv111 | tarzeau: No matter what configuration I use, it spits out the same error. I'm going to install the X11 debug packages |
| 19:44.27 | seven_six_two | black_Nightmare, but use @ your own risk |
| 19:44.32 | tarzeau | nickv111: good luck |
| 19:44.40 | tarzeau | nickv111: i got raped too, until it worked ;) |
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| 19:44.50 | covux | seven_six_two: heh. faster ;-) |
| 19:44.53 | tarzeau | nickv111: how much memory do you have in yours? |
| 19:45.01 | Zibar | thank you very much .... :) |
| 19:45.05 | nickv111 | tarzeau: In the whole machine? 640MB |
| 19:45.09 | tarzeau | nickv111: OUF! |
| 19:45.14 | tarzeau | nickv111: and you don't run mac os x? |
| 19:45.25 | tarzeau | nickv111: if i had that much memory, i'd certainly not run crap like debian |
| 19:45.27 | nickv111 | tarzeau: No, Mac OS X pisses me off way too much |
| 19:45.29 | seven_six_two | lol |
| 19:45.32 | tarzeau | LOL |
| 19:45.35 | pablum | frosted, for example, this image is not compressed, so you either compress it (and use zcat for that operation) or use cat for that command: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 19:45.37 | tarzeau | nickv111: what about we change our ibooks? |
| 19:45.39 | DanC | gnome-volume-manager seems to be responsible, per http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/12/msg00403.html |
| 19:46.04 | nickv111 | tarzeau: Nah, I'm content with mine |
| 19:46.11 | black_Nightmare | seven_six..ty for the link anyhow..I was only looking to be able to read files from a windows computer anyway .. nothing fancy at all |
| 19:46.22 | black_Nightmare | just like reading from a disc |
| 19:46.37 | frosted | pablum: sorry i went to get some water |
| 19:46.47 | DanC | libhal.c 911 : Error sending msg: No property info.capabilities on device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/scsi_1_0_0_0 |
| 19:46.49 | pipeline | tarzeau: you're crazy. Only a madman would chose OSX over anything else at all. |
| 19:46.52 | v0L7r[-]n | I can kick some vim ass |
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| 19:47.08 | tarzeau | !seen madman |
| 19:47.09 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'madman', tarzeau |
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| 19:47.15 | seven_six_two | black_Nightmare, running linux and reading from windows partition? |
| 19:47.17 | tarzeau | pipeline: where can i find that new friend? |
| 19:47.31 | pipeline | tarzeau: try #gnustep, apparently :P |
| 19:47.33 | tarzeau | pipeline: are you serious? i mean gnome and kde .. |
| 19:47.38 | useruser | DanC: /msg dpkg audofs |
| 19:47.42 | pipeline | tarzeau: ...are both vastly better than Aqua. |
| 19:47.43 | useruser | *autofs |
| 19:47.50 | tarzeau | pipeline: i'm in #gnustep since years already ;) |
| 19:47.55 | black_Nightmare | seven_six..no... having a linux external hd but able to let windows get some files off it as well |
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| 19:48.04 | pipeline | tarzeau: I know, that's why I was kidding about #gnustep being filled with OSX users :p |
| 19:48.04 | tarzeau | pipeline: you know i still run some OPENSTEP |
| 19:48.12 | frosted | pablum: i am new to this whole imaging thing so im not sure what means are best |
| 19:48.39 | pipeline | tarzeau: I have long since given up on ObjC finding a user base. Now I'm a frothing-at-the-mouth C# zealot. |
| 19:48.48 | seven_six_two | black_Nightmare, then you'll need a separate program in windows for it to be able to read it. windows can't do it natively and i doub't they'd ever let you |
| 19:48.54 | frosted | pablum: so you are saying i can use any iso and just cat it? |
| 19:49.04 | black_Nightmare | seven_to....likewise..that link you gave me should help with that issue..again thank you hehehe |
| 19:49.13 | seven_six_two | np |
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| 19:49.35 | pumpitup | boo |
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| 19:49.50 | pablum | frosted, It appears (although I've only ever used dd for that) |
| 19:49.51 | tarzeau | re nvz |
| 19:49.55 | nvz | hello |
| 19:50.04 | seven_six_two | http://rafb.net/paste/results/IQL5vH45.html |
| 19:50.23 | nvz | I am still having network issues.. let my brothers XPMC desktop back on the MAC List.. started removing trojan after trojan |
| 19:50.26 | pablum | s/It/So it/ |
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| 19:50.41 | nvz | he's virus scanning yet again.. |
| 19:50.53 | frosted | pablum: hmm ok so can you tell me the difference between this netinst iso and the netboot tarball |
| 19:50.57 | tarzeau | nvz: he's got wingdows? |
| 19:51.00 | Eulex | nvz, he's running windows? |
| 19:51.04 | Ronin | nvz: format c and dump windows ;) |
| 19:51.13 | DanC | hmm... http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127 suggests autofs involves quite a bit of editing /etc files; I wonder how it worked without that in ubuntu; i.e. is it just normal gnome magic, or something ubuntu-specific? |
| 19:51.23 | Ronin | although im one to talk, the wifes machine is windows |
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| 19:51.34 | nvz | only thing thats bothering me, is his system idle process PID 0 is listening on various ports and often recieving connections from around the world that show up in the tcpview as ip:http or ip:80 |
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| 19:51.44 | rob_lt | Ronin: at least get her a Mac :) |
| 19:51.56 | zinx | nvz: is that all? |
| 19:51.59 | nvz | Eulex: everyone in the house runs WinXP except my brother also has an iBook running MacOSX for school |
| 19:52.04 | Ronin | rob_lt: id love it, told her to buy one too that way i wouldn't have to support it |
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| 19:52.16 | DanC | somehow autofs doesn't seem right |
| 19:52.17 | zinx | nvz: there's only one way to properly remove a trojan |
| 19:52.23 | zinx | nvz: reinstall from a known-good source. |
| 19:52.25 | nvz | that iBook is my friend.. I use it to compare logs to mine.. its the only system logging decently |
| 19:52.30 | pablum | frosted, you said you didn't have a netboot tarball... but you'd use (i think, unless tar tells you there is a .iso in the tarball) the tarball and unpack it onto an already formatted and mounted partition. |
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| 19:52.47 | mihaly | where is the boot log lockaded? |
| 19:52.49 | nvz | feels a lot like linux that MacOSX |
| 19:52.59 | frosted | pablum: heh ok now im lose woo |
| 19:53.07 | frosted | pablum: er lost that is |
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| 19:53.46 | nvz | zinx: yeah well he's got tons and tons of data on there that I am sure he doesnt want to loose.. I am trying to work with everyone to clean up the network and enforce security poilcies |
| 19:54.10 | pablum | frosted, I think you'd use the tarball for the 4.4.2, not 4.4.1, in the howto |
| 19:54.25 | pablum | but the iso is a prepared filesystem |
| 19:54.28 | suman | hi all |
| 19:54.37 | zinx | nvz: copy data off, making sure there are no executable files he could accidentally run, reinstall, copy data back |
| 19:54.41 | nvz | I need to install a virus scanner myself.. cause although the viruses arent hurting me much, I can still be a host. I am the samba fileserver..so its likely they got some of their viruses from me.. heh |
| 19:54.42 | useruser | DanC: ok. it works well for me |
| 19:54.47 | mihaly | DanC: add site:gnome.org to the search string |
| 19:55.04 | suman | when i mount a partition in rw mode only root is able to write to it... how can i give access to every user on the system to write to that partition? |
| 19:55.04 | Eulex | heh, just installed a firewall today and now I see how many connections are attempted to me from the outside -- gonna forward port 135, 137, 139, 445 and 3531 into infinity |
| 19:55.26 | zinx | nvz: you -need- to reinstall, in any case. |
| 19:55.31 | Ronin | Eulex: congratulations youve entered the world of paronia and freaking out for a while when reading log files |
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| 19:55.43 | DanC | well, what I'm wondering is: why do the debian and gentoo pages about gnome-volume-manager have so much google-juice, and I can't even find the one from gnome.org |
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| 19:56.01 | frosted | pablum: er ok |
| 19:56.04 | pureone | eulex stick netcat listening on them ports and run snort ;) |
| 19:56.16 | Eulex | Ronin, heh |
| 19:56.19 | DanC | does the gnome project not keep their docs online? hmm. |
| 19:56.24 | Eulex | pureone, that would do? |
| 19:56.27 | nvz | zinx: well I removed any infected files on my dads computer and his activity stablized.. my brothers looks badly infected I am probably going to have to take his MAC ID back off the access list cause hes fucking up the network again |
| 19:56.46 | zinx | nvz: you suck. big time. that is all. |
| 19:56.47 | pureone | show why them machines are trying to connect |
| 19:56.57 | nvz | zinx: I am trying to see if I can get to the bottom of why his idle process is accepting connections.. never seen it before |
| 19:57.05 | Eulex | pureone, ok |
| 19:57.06 | zinx | nvz: i'm blaming you for all the spam i get, and the network outtages due to DoS |
| 19:57.11 | nvz | heh |
| 19:57.14 | frosted | pablum: so using the prepared iso is a worse idea you think? |
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| 19:57.22 | dondelelcaro | just install debian... that will fix the problems |
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| 19:57.31 | nvz | without me this problem would really be running wild.. as least I am doing something |
| 19:57.34 | zinx | nvz: it's because he's got a fucking backdoored system |
| 19:57.41 | nvz | I noticed |
| 19:57.46 | zinx | nvz: Reinstall. |
| 19:57.52 | pureone | nvz you should really reinstall |
| 19:57.54 | zinx | nvz: reinstall your dad's computer too, while you're at it. |
| 19:57.57 | nvz | he even told me when he was in school he installed such a backdoor to control his system from school |
| 19:58.12 | bucky | why are all these sarge installs getting rooted? |
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| 19:58.25 | pureone | bucky url ? |
| 19:58.29 | nvz | though the letmein.com program seems to be gone.. this is something else I reckon |
| 19:58.31 | initech | bucky: wtf are you talking about? |
| 19:58.37 | zinx | bucky: installing unneeded/unsupported daemons? what sarge installs? |
| 19:58.44 | DanC | [[ An argument that does fly is that it's not the name of a package |
| 19:58.44 | DanC | anyone would ever install except to satisfy a dependency. ]] -- http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2004-September/msg00018.html |
| 19:58.47 | exobyte | what commands does pon run if I do pon foo.net |
| 19:58.49 | FieldySnuts | bucky: what sarge installs |
| 19:58.57 | pablum | frosted, it's the way you started with, but it doesn't look worse or better. You just have to change the image file you want to use to the appropriate one, and use cat instead of zcat to write it to the partition. |
| 19:58.58 | opqdonut | do 16-bit pcmcia wlan cards exist? |
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| 19:59.05 | DanC | hmm... apt-cache search gnome-volume-manager doesn't show things that depend on it... I'm sure there's a flag for that... |
| 19:59.15 | zinx | nvz: seriously dude, reinstall. |
| 19:59.17 | nvz | my brother and dad are becomming more interested in linux now that I am taking them off the network due to infections.. just that they have shitty wireless network cards.. I dont know that I could get the shit to work. |
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| 19:59.22 | resiak | DanC: man apt-cache |
| 19:59.34 | resiak | nvz: ndiswrapper really does work bloody well. |
| 19:59.46 | nvz | all the boxes on the network other than me and the iBook are wireless WinXP systems |
| 19:59.46 | FieldySnuts | if i spend 3 hours on a winshit system fixing crap like that, i get sick of it and reinstall, not worth my time |
| 19:59.55 | DanC | right, resiak ... apt-cache rdepends gnome-volume-manager shows hal and gnome-desktop-environment |
| 20:00.00 | nvz | the iBook is wireless too, I am the only wired client |
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| 20:00.15 | dreamskm | can somebody help me authenticate a user from PHP, and/or change the password of a user with a simple script? |
| 20:00.16 | resiak | DanC: I know. |
| 20:00.22 | resiak | dreamskm: #php |
| 20:00.26 | FieldySnuts | #php probably can |
| 20:00.29 | dreamskm | thanks |
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| 20:00.32 | nvz | resiak: my dad's is an internal on a HP laptop, and my brother has a USB Linksys adapter.. think its prism based |
| 20:00.36 | DanC | hmm... how did I not have hal-device-manager installed? |
| 20:00.44 | tarzeau | jharrison: hi! |
| 20:00.46 | resiak | DanC: Because you didn't install it? |
| 20:01.00 | DanC | but I have hal installed, and hal depends on hal-device-manager |
| 20:01.24 | nickv111 | Sorry to repeat, but Iim having some troubles with XFree86. My log from when I do "startx" is as follows: |
| 20:01.26 | DanC | ah... Suggests: hal-device-manager |
| 20:01.27 | nickv111 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/kUmrzu58.html |
| 20:01.28 | jharrison | tarzeau: :) |
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| 20:02.00 | nvz | resiak: other than the wifi card my brothers pc should be highly compatible hardware.. and maybe his shitty realtek onboard sound.. but he's got an AMD64 system w/ Nvidia Geforce 5200FX which should be well supported |
| 20:02.19 | DanC | no man page for hal-device-manager. hmm... |
| 20:02.20 | pablum | frosted, so just follow 4.4.1 like you'd originally planned, only use cat instead of zcat, and use the appropriate image from the mirrors on http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ instead of the non-netowrk image used in the howto. |
| 20:02.21 | resiak | nvz: Hmm, well, I dan't know anything about that stuff. |
| 20:02.25 | nvz | from my experience HP laptops have a lot of quirks with linux |
| 20:02.26 | nickv111 | I get an error that says "cannot read V_BIOS (5)" |
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| 20:02.29 | resiak | DanC: Make one and submit it? |
| 20:02.35 | nvz | resiak: me either. |
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| 20:02.54 | astronut | when i shutdown my box, it doesn't show the init shutdown messages on the tty unless you had been logged in as root.....if no one is logged in to tty1, it shuts down x, sits there at "Login: " for a bit then "SHutting down" <whomp> |
| 20:02.55 | DanC | resiak, that's quite a challenge, as I don't know what its contents should be |
| 20:03.04 | resiak | astronut: It's showing them on tty7. |
| 20:03.16 | resiak | DanC: Use the source, Luke! |
| 20:03.18 | astronut | resiak: eh?? |
| 20:03.22 | nvz | heh |
| 20:03.25 | nvz | thats funny |
| 20:03.27 | resiak | astronut: Trust me. |
| 20:03.29 | astronut | resiak: why tty7? and tty7 shuts down |
| 20:03.43 | resiak | astronut: Because you ran shutdown from tty7? |
| 20:03.47 | DanC | aha... /usr/share/doc refers me to http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/hal ; that explains why gnome.org didn't have much google-juice... |
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| 20:03.58 | resiak | Actually, I don't see it a lot since I use bootsplash ;) |
| 20:04.27 | jharrison | tarzeau: kernels working? |
| 20:05.11 | astronut | resiak...ahh |
| 20:05.19 | astronut | what about over ssh? |
| 20:05.25 | astronut | can i set it to always be on TTY1? |
| 20:05.26 | resiak | astronut: I have NFI. |
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| 20:05.31 | pumpitup | hmmm when running netcat is there a way to make it listen on all ports like netcat -l 127.0.0.1 *? |
| 20:05.36 | astronut | NFI? |
| 20:05.40 | resiak | !nfi |
| 20:05.40 | dpkg | well, nfi is No Fucking Idea |
| 20:05.43 | astronut | ah |
| 20:05.51 | frosted | pablum: ok ill give that a go... thx! |
| 20:05.52 | resiak | astronut: apt-get install wtf |
| 20:06.00 | initech | pumpitup: wtf do you want to do that for? |
| 20:06.00 | nvz | my dad doesnt do anything that if his hardware was supported that he would need windows for. as for my brother.. he's got a gateway media center desktop.. and also plays windows games and does a lot of video capture and dvd creation.. so I don't know if he could get comfortable with linux very easily. I am not so sure his remote and everything would work |
| 20:06.24 | astronut | resiak: i have it, not on my debian box atm |
| 20:06.32 | Pego | night |
| 20:06.35 | nvz | if I can figure out the wireless cards I could probably have them both using it at least as a dual-boot to get them used to it |
| 20:06.40 | pumpitup | lol well i want a way to run a "real" time logging system in eterm in the bg |
| 20:06.53 | astronut | nvz:what wifi card |
| 20:06.53 | jharrison | nvz: get an orinoco card |
| 20:06.56 | pablum | nvz, just zone him off from the rest of the network... :) |
| 20:06.58 | nvz | I can have them backup to my Samba LVM and I could scan for viruses |
| 20:06.58 | initech | nvz: no. linux death march. it's the only way!! |
| 20:07.06 | seven_six_two | nvz, i do video capture and dvd creation with sarge |
| 20:07.08 | frosted | ok here i go |
| 20:07.17 | nvz | pablum: cant. got a really shitty wireless modem/gateway |
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| 20:07.37 | pablum | nvz linux makes an excellant gw |
| 20:07.44 | nvz | seven_six_two: yeah but he's a WinXPMC moron.. if its not all pointy-clicky and he can use his remote he's gonna bitch |
| 20:07.48 | findme | with qemu i can install another debian system in my local machine right |
| 20:07.53 | pumpitup | initech : well i want a way to run a "real" time logging system in eterm in the bg |
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| 20:08.38 | seven_six_two | nvz, mainactor is "pointy-clicky" but i have to use cli for dvd file structure creation |
| 20:08.51 | nvz | only way I could better control the network would be to setup the modem as just a modem, and put a router box with a wireless card behind it.. and I dont know how to run a router/gateway or how to setup wireless in linux |
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| 20:09.05 | nvz | networking isnt my bag of tricks.. I know just enough to get by |
| 20:09.12 | pablum | more bread in the toaster |
| 20:09.39 | astronut | gateway is trivally easy |
| 20:09.51 | astronut | it's like 3 commands with ipstate |
| 20:09.56 | astronut | i don't have my box up or i'd paste em |
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| 20:10.07 | jharrison | findme: yes |
| 20:10.08 | nvz | I tried setting up a gateway before I didnt understand the whole thing. confused the hell out of me |
| 20:10.14 | findme | jharrison, thanks |
| 20:10.23 | jharrison | findme: you can install lots of stuff with qemu |
| 20:10.27 | nvz | didnt understand even how to configure the interfaces much less setup the nat |
| 20:10.39 | dings | Is there a module with 2.6.11 for Atmel AT76C502 pcmcia wlan cards? (aka. 3com 3crwe62092b) |
| 20:10.40 | astronut | nvz: NAT is trivally easy |
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| 20:11.03 | astronut | dings: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ |
| 20:11.56 | nvz | I've got an HP VectraVL and an IBM Aptiva laying here I could make into a router.. but I would have to go buy a wireless card to still allow everyone to get online. either that or just firewall myself into a corner, and let them fend for themselves.. but thats not good policy.. even though they are idiots on a hackerbait OS.. I can't be selfish.. I got to think about everyone else on the internet :P |
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| 20:12.36 | nvz | I would have to have both an ethernet and wifi lan port so I could get online wired, and all the other wireless boxes could get on.. and I havent the slightest clue how to do that shit |
| 20:12.47 | Ronin | nvz: firewalls for dummys, ipcop, smoothwall, monowall etc. |
| 20:12.51 | bkhl | findme: you should be able to do it faster with user mode Linux, though. |
| 20:13.14 | findme | bkhl, ok |
| 20:13.24 | nvz | if I turn the SBG into just a modem, and turn off the wireless and nat features.. I have to re-implement all that on the gateway I setup |
| 20:13.27 | bkhl | findme: looking for a link for you... |
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| 20:13.37 | dings | astronut: I know there is a driver with the atmelwlandriver project, I just don't know whether I need to compile it. Thought I might already have it, just unaware of the name of the module |
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| 20:13.49 | nvz | it would be nice to have a linux gateway so I can setup proxies and better logging facilities..etc |
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| 20:14.26 | dings | astronut: In debian I mean. |
| 20:14.28 | bkhl | findme: http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:14.44 | findme | bkhl, wow cool |
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| 20:16.17 | DanC | ooh... nice diagram... this is what I've been looking for to grok hal and such... http://cvs.freedesktop.org/*checkout*/hal/hal/doc/spec/hal-spec.html?only_with_tag=HEAD#ov_hal_linux26 |
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| 20:17.02 | zOap | !debian-no |
| 20:17.03 | dpkg | hmm... debian-no is den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users... |
| 20:17.06 | nickv111 | tarzeau: It works! Woohoo! |
| 20:17.12 | phillips | all of kde, all of gnome, even all of xfce is broken for me, is this the same for everybody? |
| 20:17.15 | nickv111 | tarzeau: I love framebuffer devices :) |
| 20:17.22 | tarzeau | nickv111: nice ;) |
| 20:17.38 | resiak | phillips: Are you in Sid? |
| 20:17.39 | jharrison | tarzeau: |
| 20:17.44 | nickv111 | tarzeau: One line 'Option "UseFBDev"' fixed it |
| 20:17.46 | phillips | indeed |
| 20:17.48 | resiak | phillips: Have you checked the BTS and the topic? |
| 20:17.53 | tarzeau | jharrison: http://gnu.ethz.ch/wth/ |
| 20:17.54 | phillips | yes |
| 20:18.05 | tarzeau | nickv111: great |
| 20:18.09 | resiak | phillips: And you know about the massive breakage then? |
| 20:18.12 | phillips | it says beware breakage, not informative |
| 20:18.25 | phillips | sigh |
| 20:18.25 | tarzeau | phillips: yes, same for me |
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| 20:18.28 | resiak | phillips: Have you been reading the emails on d-d-a ? |
| 20:18.29 | DanC | hmm... what I've read so far suggest that maybe if I just log out and log in, automounting usb flash disks will work... |
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| 20:18.30 | tarzeau | phillips: can you try wmaker gnustep ? |
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| 20:18.33 | phillips | thankyout, tarzeau |
| 20:18.42 | tarzeau | phillips: you're on sarge, right? |
| 20:18.44 | phillips | tarzeau, will do |
| 20:18.50 | jharrison | tarzeau: is this a train you are on? |
| 20:18.51 | tarzeau | phillips: otherwise make sure you run the libfreetype of sarge |
| 20:18.52 | phillips | tarzeau, sid |
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| 20:19.04 | phillips | x is running for me |
| 20:19.09 | tarzeau | jharrison: hehe the others were stuck in the train like for 3 hours because some problem of a blizzard ;) |
| 20:19.10 | phillips | in fact, I'm running firefox |
| 20:19.12 | RogueDopple | midnight train to georgia woo woo |
| 20:19.24 | tarzeau | jharrison: i catched the right train and was at teh lake like in an hour |
| 20:19.26 | phillips | however, no window manager, does anybody know of one that is not broken? |
| 20:19.38 | tarzeau | phillips: wmaker |
| 20:19.42 | jharrison | tarzeau: ive never been on a train |
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| 20:19.49 | tarzeau | jharrison: whoa! |
| 20:19.56 | phillips | resiak, no I haven't, d-d-a is? |
| 20:20.14 | pumpitup | is there a way to make eterm like part of the bg like a moving bg image so other windows will just appear over it |
| 20:20.36 | tarzeau | jharrison: i use train,bus and tramway daily |
| 20:20.40 | phillips | ah, wmaker has ok deps |
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| 20:21.21 | RogueDopple | jharrison: have you ever been on a horse drawn buggy :) |
| 20:21.38 | jharrison | RogueDopple: yes |
| 20:21.53 | RogueDopple | moi aussi :) |
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| 20:22.17 | resiak | phillips: Debian-Devel-Announce. A good mailing list to be on if you run Sid. |
| 20:22.28 | rebel_ | sooo, anyone tried X.org for sid yet? |
| 20:22.42 | jharrison | rebel_: no |
| 20:22.48 | PeterB | pumpitup: What about root-tail? |
| 20:22.53 | gravity | No one ever tried it. Ever. |
| 20:22.53 | pablum | a busy one |
| 20:23.02 | jharrison | what is x.org |
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| 20:23.20 | rebel_ | what do you mean what is x.org? |
| 20:23.22 | tarzeau | jharrison: sucks as much as xfree |
| 20:23.23 | RogueDopple | a xorg is an alien creature from planet morg |
| 20:23.31 | jharrison | tarzeau: yeah |
| 20:23.31 | phillips | wmaker is up, virtual desktops are broken, i.e., xinit -- :1 hangs and Xorg needs to be killed |
| 20:23.33 | rebel_ | i hear it's faster |
| 20:23.39 | jharrison | tarzeau: ncurses is way better |
| 20:23.40 | pumpitup | PeterB : never heard of that but will try to find out what it is |
| 20:23.47 | gravity | rebel_: For some people maybe |
| 20:23.54 | tarzeau | jharrison: there's qnx gui, and openstep displaypostscript |
| 20:23.55 | RogueDopple | ah ah ncurses does rock |
| 20:23.56 | nvz | yeah my brother isnt going to want to hear it, but we've been working on his pc all morning and its still behaving badly. Process 0: System Idle Process accepting connections does pretty much mean he's 0wned and going to have to reinstall |
| 20:23.56 | gravity | rebel_: Mostly it's new drivers although the old ones got improvements too |
| 20:23.57 | jharrison | rebel_: ncurses is way faster |
| 20:23.58 | phillips | thanks resiak |
| 20:24.02 | tarzeau | jharrison: and plenty more that isn't a nightmare |
| 20:24.16 | rebel_ | yes, ncurses in all it's glory and leetness |
| 20:24.25 | jharrison | tarzeau: I like ncurses gui |
| 20:24.27 | phillips | well good look sorting all this out |
| 20:24.27 | rebel_ | but try displaying a picture in it |
| 20:24.34 | RogueDopple | nvz: have you tried hitting it with a bat |
| 20:24.41 | rebel_ | or 3d |
| 20:24.44 | jharrison | rebel_: convert to ascii first to view pictures |
| 20:24.46 | nvz | RogueDopple: that wouldnt be nice :P |
| 20:24.47 | Ronin | or hitting your brother with a bat |
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| 20:24.48 | dings | where are packages previously placed in non-US? |
| 20:24.53 | rebel_ | um yeah..let's do that.. |
| 20:24.55 | gravity | dings: main |
| 20:25.05 | dings | what happened? |
| 20:25.13 | resiak | Someone set up us the bomb! |
| 20:25.15 | RogueDopple | nvz: but it is a m$ certified fix |
| 20:25.16 | tarzeau | dpkg topicbadger dings |
| 20:25.17 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that dings didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 20:25.36 | jharrison | hehe |
| 20:26.11 | dings | tarzeau: Where do you think I saw it was gone? (just curious) |
| 20:26.31 | nvz | RogueDopple: I'm not an MSCE ;) |
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| 20:26.40 | jharrison | dings: so why are you asking where the packages that use to be in non-US are? |
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| 20:26.53 | RogueDopple | nvz: me neither though i play one quite well |
| 20:27.08 | Ronin | too bad nvz cause if you were you would have come to the conclusion to reinstall hours ago ;) |
| 20:27.13 | dings | jharrison: Since the topic states "non-us is no more" .) |
| 20:27.27 | jharrison | dings: so what do you suppose happened to non-us packages? |
| 20:27.36 | RogueDopple | jharrison: stole them |
| 20:27.42 | RogueDopple | :) |
| 20:27.47 | jharrison | RogueDopple: ssshhhhhh |
| 20:27.54 | dings | jharrison: dunno, what I was realy asking is what allowed the change to be done |
| 20:28.07 | RogueDopple | gravity? |
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| 20:28.13 | gravity | RogueDopple: ? |
| 20:28.17 | RogueDopple | ha ah |
| 20:28.18 | dings | jharrison: I thought it was a result of US leguslation |
| 20:28.22 | jharrison | RogueDopple: or antigravity |
| 20:28.28 | jharrison | dings: doubt it |
| 20:28.29 | RogueDopple | woops i didn't mean the person gravity :) |
| 20:28.36 | gravity | Heh, ok |
| 20:29.18 | nvz | Ronin: heh.. well this _is_ my family.. and I dont even technically live here anymore.. I dont want to look like I came back just to terrorize their PC habbits and kick them off their own network.. I am just trying to work with them and gradually enforce better habbits |
| 20:29.22 | dings | jharrison: then my next question would be why the h*** it was there in the first place... but nevermind |
| 20:29.24 | ChrisH | Help. :) I'm trying to print a photo (JPEG) to a PCL printer. But printing through (e.g.) 'gimp' creates a 20 MB postscript file which in turn is converted into 75 MB PCL. The printer just has 16 MB memory. What's wrong? |
| 20:30.34 | RogueDopple | nvz: you terrorize ppl he he |
| 20:30.38 | pablum | ChrisH, probably nothing... it'll just take awhile to render. (just a guess.) Is it staying in the queue? |
| 20:30.39 | mud | is there a defragmenter tool for ext3 or is one not needed? |
| 20:31.03 | ChrisH | pablum: The printer is giving up on it. Sometimes it takes 1-2 hours and prints though. |
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| 20:31.32 | Agraj | I have been running unstable all this time, but now sarge is realeased I want to stay with it (for a few weeks anyway :), but I'm not seeing how to do this in synaptic |
| 20:31.34 | pablum | ChrisH, try exporting it to .ps or .eps format first, then print that. |
| 20:31.34 | jharrison | tarzeau: 2.6.12.3 is out |
| 20:31.52 | dings | Agraj: /ets/apt/sources.list |
| 20:31.56 | Agraj | do I want Preferences->distribtion->Always prefer the hightes version? |
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| 20:32.21 | dings | s/ets/etc/g |
| 20:32.35 | pablum | ChrisH, converting it to greyscale might also help. |
| 20:32.36 | resiak | Agraj: You can't downgrade from Unstable to Sarge. |
| 20:32.43 | tarzeau | jharrison: i hate it so much |
| 20:32.43 | Ronin | umm how can you be running unstable but stay with sarge? |
| 20:32.48 | tarzeau | jharrison: i'll stick to 2.4 for now |
| 20:32.49 | Pr0ph3t | hi guyz! I did make menuconfig to remove the module rivafb, but when I tryed to do make, a message of nothing to do appears |
| 20:32.50 | ChrisH | pablum: just tried saving postscript from gimp. same file size. |
| 20:33.01 | jharrison | tarzeau: :) |
| 20:33.09 | pablum | ChrisH, then use lpr to print... |
| 20:33.10 | resiak | !nickometer Pr0ph3t |
| 20:33.10 | dpkg | 'Pr0ph3t' is 99.800% lame, resiak |
| 20:33.16 | ChrisH | pablum: I just thought printing graphic-intense data is as point-and-click as text. |
| 20:33.18 | jharrison | tarzeau: why dont I just make you kernel.debs? |
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| 20:33.38 | pablum | ChrisH, it is... or should be. |
| 20:33.39 | tarzeau | jharrison: nah don't worry, i'm happy with the 2.4 one. if i really must have a 2.6, i'll bug you ok? |
| 20:33.43 | Pr0ph3t | dpkg I am 100% |
| 20:33.46 | jharrison | tarzeau: ok |
| 20:33.50 | RogueDopple | :) |
| 20:33.50 | tarzeau | jharrison: i'm having trouble with the afs still |
| 20:33.55 | jharrison | tarzeau: in 2.6? |
| 20:34.00 | RogueDopple | jharrison: squeaky |
| 20:34.08 | tarzeau | jharrison: nah 2.4. hehe on 2.6 the modules don't even compile at all ;) |
| 20:34.08 | Pr0ph3t | this bot is a peace of shit! |
| 20:34.13 | pablum | man, mozilla be slow. Firefox must be getting popular (new version) |
| 20:34.14 | tarzeau | Pr0ph3t: bullshit |
| 20:34.16 | jharrison | RogueDopple: I just ran squeaky to download and extract new kernel source |
| 20:34.18 | tarzeau | Pr0ph3t: she's excellent |
| 20:34.24 | jharrison | tarzeau: :) |
| 20:34.31 | Agraj | resiak: uh oh then |
| 20:34.33 | nvz | Basically what happened is my network connectivity was really bad, and my syslog was showing link up/down ever few minutes.. I started to investigate and then banned two MAC ID's later my dad wakes up and asks why he cant get online, I am like "You're pc is 0wn3d so I banned you from the network" and he's like "I pay for the internet, so buy em back!" heh.. he apperently thinks its that easy.. so I am showing them how hard it really is and train |
| 20:34.38 | Pr0ph3t | tarzeau, but its used for fun and profit |
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| 20:34.40 | resiak | Agraj: Just reingstall Sarge. |
| 20:34.48 | resiak | nvz: Truncated at "really is and train" |
| 20:34.49 | tarzeau | Pr0ph3t: what? |
| 20:35.07 | jharrison | RogueDopple: think ill make the backup config a commandline option |
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| 20:35.20 | RogueDopple | :) |
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| 20:35.47 | nvz | resiak: yeah I talk alot |
| 20:35.51 | nvz | a lot even |
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| 20:36.02 | Agraj | resiak: oh well it all works at the moment I'm probably running sarge plus a day or two, I'll just not update anymore for a few months until the wild wild changes settle out |
| 20:36.05 | Atula | tar comes with bz2 decompressor, right? mine said it doesn't have bzip2: cannot exec: No such file or directory |
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| 20:36.13 | ChrisH | pablum: greyscale conversion was a good idea! |
| 20:36.19 | Auryn | nvz: 0wn3d == virused and malwar'd up to the max ? |
| 20:36.24 | nvz | ... them on prevention before I do anything drastic like reinstalling.. I've just reinstalle my dad's laptop like a month ago. |
| 20:36.26 | pablum | !Pr0ph3t |
| 20:36.27 | ChrisH | pablum: I just wonder if I need a printer with 256 MB of memory to print correctly |
| 20:36.47 | Atula | nm |
| 20:36.53 | Pr0ph3t | tarzeau that nickometer is very funny |
| 20:36.57 | pablum | ChrisH, correctly, or quickly? |
| 20:37.02 | binaryc | i am trying to update to Xorg in sid, the install goes fine , but when i go to start Gdm it gives me a blue screen saying there was an error and if i would like to see it, when i say yes i get an empty blue screen , i don't know why it isn't working , please help |
| 20:37.06 | resiak | Agraj: Erm, Sarge will never catch up with you. Sarge has been frozen for months. |
| 20:37.10 | Pr0ph3t | !nickometer resiak |
| 20:37.19 | ChrisH | pablum: the printer doesn't print at all... so... correctly... or better: successfully |
| 20:37.23 | tarzeau | Pr0ph3t: yes it is, if you know how it works |
| 20:37.25 | resiak | !win me |
| 20:37.26 | dpkg | Congratulations, resiak! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 20:37.36 | tarzeau | Atula: no it doesn't |
| 20:37.40 | Pr0ph3t | hahaha |
| 20:37.46 | Pr0ph3t | !nickometer tarzeau |
| 20:37.51 | tarzeau | Atula: tar doesn't even come with gzip decompressor |
| 20:38.08 | resiak | !tell Pr0ph3t -about msgdpkg |
| 20:38.20 | Pr0ph3t | !nickometer Pr0ph3t |
| 20:38.23 | tarzeau | Atula: go check ldd /bin/tar |
| 20:38.31 | Agraj | resiak: oh, june was last month wasn't it |
| 20:38.33 | pablum | Pr0ph3t, use /msg |
| 20:38.34 | Agraj | hmm |
| 20:38.42 | tarzeau | Agraj: and july is now |
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| 20:38.58 | mud | is there a defragmenter tool for ext3 or is one not needed? |
| 20:39.00 | Agraj | tarzeau: I'm getting the hang of this now |
| 20:39.04 | stew | mud: not needed |
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| 20:39.13 | tarzeau | Agraj: nice |
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| 20:39.16 | mud | stew: thx |
| 20:39.22 | resiak | mud: One exists. |
| 20:39.29 | enveezee | I just removed his MAC ID again from the access list, cause I am about sick of pinging out |
| 20:39.46 | mud | resiak : name? |
| 20:39.58 | Agraj | tarzeau: well in this case props to the folks working on unstable, I'm amazed how little breakage I've seen for the first month of development |
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| 20:40.08 | Ronin | not really needed though |
| 20:40.10 | resiak | mud: You can search for yourself. |
| 20:40.31 | mud | resiak: okelie dokelie |
| 20:40.34 | enveezee | he's back on quarentine until he can prove he is the only one controlling that pc |
| 20:40.36 | tarzeau | Agraj: so you're new to it, right? |
| 20:40.48 | john_bart | hi i've got sarge kernel 2.6 fresh installed, and now done 'apt-get install linux-wlan-ng' which finished successfully, but 'modprobe prism2_usb' says module not found? any ideas? |
| 20:40.58 | mud | stupid flanders |
| 20:41.17 | Agraj | tarzeau: earth months? yes, I just reincarnated here |
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| 20:42.22 | tarzeau | Agraj: i meant sid (unstable) |
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| 20:42.45 | RogueDopple | not mentally unstable? |
| 20:43.40 | gihad | Hey, debian is not detecting my network card(onboard that came w/ ASUS A8N-E), and it is giving me a list of drivers to choose, Anyone have the solution ? |
| 20:43.50 | dings | john_bart: I think you need a linux-wlan-ng-modules for your kernel |
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| 20:44.27 | john_bart | dings: so presumably i should try apt-get install linux-wlan-ng-modules |
| 20:44.33 | pablum | awright, time to get to work on that serial ping proggie. |
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| 20:45.06 | dings | john_bart: apt-cache search linux-wlan-ng-modules |
| 20:45.29 | john_bart | dings: points me back to linux-wlan-ng |
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| 20:45.41 | Zibar | hi guys ... finally got kde up and running with the firegl ati drivers and opengl acc seems to be enabled .... so everything is all good except that i cant get it to run in 1280x768 .... ive set this resolution as the only one in my screens section in the config file but to no avail ... any advice ? |
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| 20:45.55 | Agraj | tarzeau: I've been running unstable for quite a while without running into a major break |
| 20:46.16 | Agraj | tarzeau: now its wanting to remove gdm though so I'm feeling a little jumpy |
| 20:46.19 | Babbage | In which channel do the mobile-phone-geeks hang out? |
| 20:46.27 | dings | john_bart: apt-cache show linux-wlan-ng |
| 20:46.30 | Agraj | tarzeau: is the testing distribution still a going thing? |
| 20:46.34 | binaryc | i am trying to update to Xorg in sid, but when i go to start X it gives me a message saying there was an error, but the error details are empty |
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| 20:47.13 | tarzeau | Agraj: heh |
| 20:47.17 | dings | Agraj: It's quite a while since woody was released |
| 20:47.21 | tarzeau | Agraj: you know what greycat thinks about gdm? |
| 20:47.27 | tarzeau | about the same, i think about it ;) |
| 20:47.35 | Agraj | tarzeau: no |
| 20:47.40 | tarzeau | Agraj: yes testing also exists. there's no plans to having it removed |
| 20:47.48 | gravity | binaryc: How are you starting X? |
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| 20:47.53 | Agraj | tarzeau: does he like to log in from the console? |
| 20:47.59 | binaryc | gravity- tried both gdm and kdm |
| 20:48.03 | john_bart | dings: ok that says its installed ok, also says "linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-modules is not available, but is referred to by another package" |
| 20:48.10 | tarzeau | Agraj: he likes xdm, i like wdm but really i prefer to log in from the console |
| 20:48.42 | gravity | binaryc: How? |
| 20:48.42 | dings | john_bart: I d't know, justst seemed to remember it needed a modules package |
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| 20:49.02 | john_bart | dings: aha ok thanks, its given me something to look at. cheers! |
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| 20:49.19 | dogayonv | how do I upgrade my system from sarge to sid? |
| 20:49.19 | Agraj | tarzeau: I like to console log in also but at some point startx seemed broken and gdm worked, and I don't see what in the list of packages to be installed is going to replace it |
| 20:49.44 | Ronin | dogayonv: can you fix it when it breaks when you run sid? |
| 20:49.56 | binaryc | gravity- command from console, |
| 20:50.00 | dogayonv | sid that unstable? |
| 20:50.08 | gravity | binaryc: That won't work. You need to use startx |
| 20:50.09 | resiak | dogayonv: /topic |
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| 20:50.16 | gravity | binaryc: Or invoke the gdm/kdm init script |
| 20:50.17 | Ronin | well its not called unstable for nothign |
| 20:50.18 | clueless | does every mta know about .forward? |
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| 20:51.23 | pablum | clueless, mtas don't know anything about .forward that I know of. |
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| 20:51.39 | pablum | the delivery agent reads that |
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| 20:52.00 | Agraj | anyone have some working repository URIs for contrib and non-free? |
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| 20:52.26 | valdyn | Agraj: any official debian mirror |
| 20:52.30 | binaryc | gravity- ahh, will try, but i will have to kill x since i am using Xchat right now, why won't xorg start with kdm in console ? |
| 20:52.48 | gravity | binaryc: Because kdm needs to set some things up. The init script handles that. |
| 20:53.23 | binaryc | gravity- but xfree86 lets it set it up? how ? |
| 20:53.23 | Agraj | valdyn: thats what I thought but they are all consistently failing for ftp.us.debian.org |
| 20:53.44 | gravity | binaryc: Huh? |
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| 20:54.23 | valdyn | "deb http://ftp.<countrycode>.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free" |
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| 20:54.28 | binaryc | gravity - x starts just fine runnning kdm from console with xfree86 the problems are occuring when i switched to xorg |
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| 20:54.59 | gravity | binaryc: Ah, then maybe it will work. You shouldn't be running two different versions of X at the same time though |
| 20:55.00 | valdyn | Agraj: where countrycode = 'de' or 'us' for me |
| 20:55.03 | gravity | binaryc: That's a very bad idea |
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| 20:55.22 | tarzeau | good night |
| 20:55.29 | tarzeau | the weekend is over soon! |
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| 20:55.38 | pablum | nooooooo! |
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| 20:55.44 | binaryc | gravity- xorg install removed xfree |
| 20:55.55 | clueless | pablum: isnt it exim that reads .forward and send mails to say procmail? |
| 20:56.00 | gravity | binaryc: Perhaps I don't understand what your problem is. Are you actually running X.Org? |
| 20:56.00 | dan2 | binaryc: what else would it do? |
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| 20:56.22 | kamaraju | When I go to http://www.greatandhra.com/movies/listen/dongadongadi_songs.html and click on the playall button at the bottom, konqueror crashes. Mozilla-firefox does not crash, but is unable to play the songs. I am wondering whether it is my configuration problem or Debian's problem or the website's problem. Any solutions are welcome. |
| 20:56.36 | clueless | pablum: isnt it exim that reads .forward and send mails to say procmail, if .forward has |/usr/bin/procmail ? |
| 20:56.45 | Agraj | I have been running unstable all this time, but now sarge is realeased I want to sta |
| 20:56.53 | pablum | huh... clueless you are right (reading manpage) |
| 20:56.53 | Agraj | sdf |
| 20:56.56 | binaryc | when x.org is installed, and i go to start x , through runing gdm from console, it doesn't start i get an error has occured do you want to see the bug report screen |
| 20:57.03 | kamaraju | Forgot to say, I am using sid. |
| 20:57.10 | binaryc | but the report is empty, so i don't know what to do to troubleshoot |
| 20:57.12 | gravity | binaryc: So, you are able to run X.Org |
| 20:57.23 | gravity | binaryc: But what you aren't able to run is gdm when you start it from the console. |
| 20:57.39 | binaryc | or anyother form of visable x |
| 20:57.45 | gihad | Hey, debian is not detecting my network card(onboard that came w/ ASUS A8N-E), and it is giving me a list of drivers to choose, Anyone have the solution ? |
| 20:57.53 | gihad | (during the install) |
| 20:57.53 | gravity | binaryc: So you are *not* able to run X.Org at all? |
| 20:58.00 | binaryc | yes |
| 20:58.03 | gravity | binaryc: You're being very obtuse here... |
| 20:58.04 | jdhutchin1 | kamaraju, have you installed a plugin to mozilla so that it can play audio files? |
| 20:58.18 | valdyn | binaryc: tell us how you 'upgraded' to xorg... |
| 20:58.27 | gravity | binaryc: So... you're running X.Org for xchat, but you can't run X.Org? |
| 20:58.46 | binaryc | no, i reinstalled xfree, Xorg is not working |
| 20:58.47 | kamaraju | jdhutchin1: Can you give a name of plugin? |
| 20:58.53 | gravity | Ok |
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| 20:59.04 | jdhutchin1 | kamaraju, search apt, I don't remember it's exact name now, but it uses mplayer |
| 20:59.05 | binaryc | sorry for being so vauge, i am unsure of what is exactly working and what isn't as i am unsure where the error is comming from |
| 20:59.13 | Agraj | valdyn: thats what I've got, except with testing |
| 20:59.20 | gravity | binaryc: You need to install X.org and put the log up |
| 20:59.23 | Agraj | valdyn: where sarge is |
| 20:59.28 | gravity | Although I have to leave in a few minutes, so there may not be time |
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| 20:59.54 | gravity | binaryc: Is there a /var/log/Xorg.0.log on your system? |
| 21:00.20 | kamaraju | jdhutchin1: I think you are talking about mozilla-mplayer. Let me install it and see how it goes. |
| 21:00.23 | valdyn | Agraj: 'wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing' works for me, so the repository seems to be ok... |
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| 21:02.21 | dogmeat | is there a open source webcrawler bot? |
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| 21:02.35 | valdyn | Agraj: i'd just try ftp.ca.debian.org or whatever is close to you |
| 21:02.37 | kamaraju | jdhutchin1: You are wonderful. Installing mozilla-mplayer solved the problem. Thanks a lot. |
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| 21:03.44 | binaryc | gravity- thanks i didn't know xorg had a log, i think i know where the problem is comming from , thanks alot |
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| 21:04.26 | Zibar | anyone have a clue as to why my xserver doesnt run 1280x768 even though its the only setting i have in the config file ? .... does it default to 1024x768 if it cant run the defined resolution ? |
| 21:04.31 | ommmg | root@baghdad:~# deluser --remove-home zero |
| 21:04.31 | ommmg | Name "main::name" used only once: possible typo at /usr/sbin/deluser line 341. |
| 21:04.36 | ommmg | what's with this :-) |
| 21:04.40 | ommmg | i'm using debian unstable |
| 21:04.45 | gravity | binaryc: No problem |
| 21:05.14 | valdyn | Zibar: are you sure its not just the only setting in your config file for the *wrong* color depth? |
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| 21:05.45 | Zibar | ive changed all color settings to 1280x768 and deleted all other possible resolutions .... |
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| 21:06.11 | Overand | Zibar: host the config file somewhere or copy the whole thing into pastebin or whatever |
| 21:06.18 | valdyn | Zibar: alright, i guess that resolution is beyodn the display specs you gave |
| 21:06.29 | valdyn | Zibar: /var/log/XFree86.0.log would know |
| 21:06.55 | Zibar | cant host it as i havent installed anything like that yet .... pastebin ? a web service ? |
| 21:07.01 | Zibar | ok |
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| 21:07.06 | Zibar | thanks valdyn |
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| 21:07.27 | SNow | hi all :) |
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| 21:07.34 | SNow | how should I install PEX/Text.pm in perl? |
| 21:07.35 | Zibar | but 1280x768 is what i used to run on winxp .... but ok, its not the same driver ...... |
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| 21:07.44 | resiak | !tell SNow -about dh-make-perl |
| 21:07.46 | fumbalah | My machine has two network cards, and I have the Ips set to be static in /etc/network/interfaces and it keeps not holding the IP |
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| 21:08.00 | resiak | ommmg: It's a slight bug in the perl script that is deluser, I'd guess. Have you checked the BTS? |
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| 21:08.32 | MrKeuner | hi, after doing transition from xfree86 to xorg I started having a problem with xterm. xterm -e "tail -f /var/log/auth.log" the window is being closed just after it is started. What can be the problem? |
| 21:08.39 | valdyn | Zibar: you gave display specs when dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 was run. if you gave to low specs, then 1280x768 cannot be run. If there's no suitable modeline in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 then it can also not be run. |
| 21:08.44 | wads3 | hello, when i try to install debian i get this error when the autodetect hardware screen comes at %5 Loading module 'ohci1394' for Texas Instruments .... and then it freezes. What should i do, how do i disable firewire? |
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| 21:08.56 | knowledge_ | Can someone here help me? |
| 21:09.04 | fumbalah | knowledge_: maybe |
| 21:09.08 | resiak | !tell knowledge_ -about ask |
| 21:09.11 | stew | wads3: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 21:09.15 | deadcat | knowledge_: probably not |
| 21:09.16 | knowledge_ | lol |
| 21:09.23 | stew | wads3: oh, during install, nm |
| 21:09.32 | valdyn | Zibar: either way the logfile will tell whatever the first reason is that made using 1280x768 impossible. |
| 21:09.39 | wads3 | stew, i didn't get that. |
| 21:09.44 | stew | wads3: nevermind |
| 21:09.58 | Zibar | ah ok, makes sense .... but wont rerunning dokg-reconfigure mess up my config file .... |
| 21:10.04 | Zibar | ok |
| 21:10.11 | Zibar | ill take a look in that log' |
| 21:10.15 | wads3 | what do you mean nevermind, it hangs up, the installation |
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| 21:10.27 | knowledge_ | ok, I freshly installed my distro and everything was working fine, and I decided to install the correct drivers for my alps touchpad by patching the kernel, everything went fine except now my wifi card isn't working |
| 21:10.29 | knowledge_ | any ideas? |
| 21:10.41 | valdyn | Zibar: running that command will not change your config file at all if you changed it manually. read the help text on top of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 21:10.51 | Zibar | k |
| 21:11.05 | valdyn | Zibar: but yea, read the log first is best you can do i guess |
| 21:11.10 | wads3 | hello, can anybody help me with my installation please? |
| 21:11.30 | deadcat | knowledge_: what "wifi" card do you have? |
| 21:11.42 | deadcat | wads3: just ask the damn question. |
| 21:11.49 | stew | deadcat: he did |
| 21:12.03 | valdyn | wads3: try disabling firewire in your bios for now |
| 21:12.05 | SNow | sniegas:/home/tomas# dh-make-perl --install text.pm |
| 21:12.05 | SNow | Cannot open text.pm/Makefile.PL: No such file or directory |
| 21:12.13 | knowledge_ | Atheros 5211 |
| 21:12.19 | wads3 | valdyn: can't do that, the option is not available |
| 21:12.27 | wads3 | using a laptop |
| 21:12.50 | deadcat | stew: my bad. i dont read historys (= |
| 21:12.56 | wads3 | i've dealt with this problem before, but it wasn't debian |
| 21:13.03 | wads3 | just turned it off with -nofirewire |
| 21:13.08 | wads3 | can i do that on debian too? |
| 21:13.14 | stew | wads3: are you installing with a 2.4 kernel or 2.6? |
| 21:13.18 | valdyn | wads3: if that is a kernel option, yea sure |
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| 21:13.32 | valdyn | wads3: or simply try linux26 at the boot prompt |
| 21:13.47 | knowledge_ | deadcat, Atheros 5211... |
| 21:14.01 | knowledge_ | (forgot to adress the message to you) |
| 21:14.14 | wads3 | stew: i am installing with the cd-iso image around 180 MB, don't know what kernel it uses |
| 21:14.22 | SNow | How can I install Pex/Text.pm with dh-make-perl or something other ? |
| 21:14.25 | gravity | MrKeuner: You probably don't have permission to access the log file |
| 21:14.39 | stew | wads3: 2.4 by default, but do as valdyn sys booting with linux26 will use a 2.6 kernel |
| 21:14.47 | stew | ^sys^says |
| 21:14.48 | wads3 | ok, thank you |
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| 21:15.11 | MrKeuner | gravity/ if I open an xterm and execute the string it works |
| 21:15.19 | MrKeuner | I'll check the permissions though |
| 21:15.21 | gravity | hrm |
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| 21:15.47 | dwu | how do i set my computer to default use gcc-3.5 |
| 21:15.51 | dwu | *3.4 |
| 21:15.58 | dan2 | gcc-4.0 is out |
| 21:16.00 | dwu | not 4.0, i have both install |
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| 21:16.10 | dan2 | dwu: man update-alternatives |
| 21:16.24 | gravity | MrKeuner: I can reproduce that... hrm |
| 21:16.36 | MrKeuner | gravity/ its readable for group adm and I am a user of adm. can still there be a permission problem? |
| 21:16.47 | knowledge_ | if anyone can help with my problem, just msg me |
| 21:16.54 | dwu | dan2: ah cool |
| 21:17.04 | gravity | MrKeuner: No, I don't think that's it... hrm |
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| 21:17.26 | Zibar | hmm, im a bit overwhelmed by the amount of data in the log - but ive pasted my config file here : http://pastebin.com/315241 .... |
| 21:17.51 | valdyn | Zibar: start by doing a 'grep EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 21:18.18 | Zibar | k |
| 21:18.34 | SNow | How can I install Pex/Text.pm with dh-make-perl or something other ? |
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| 21:19.32 | Zibar | can i paste in here ? 4 lines ? |
| 21:19.41 | gravity | MrKeuner: Would you mind filing a bug report against xterm for that/ |
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| 21:19.50 | MrKeuner | gravity/ rxvt -e doesn't work either |
| 21:19.57 | Eulex | !tell Zibar about paster |
| 21:19.57 | gravity | odd |
| 21:20.20 | gravity | MrKeuner: Hold off on that bug report then for a second... |
| 21:20.29 | MrKeuner | yeah definitely I'll file but not sure if xterm is the correct place |
| 21:20.34 | paster | "Zibar" at 212.10.166.15 pasted "xfree log" (3 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/380 |
| 21:20.50 | Zibar | neat |
| 21:21.03 | gravity | MrKeuner: Yeah, if it's an rxvt issue then it's probably not an xterm issue... |
| 21:21.25 | nickv111 | Hmm |
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| 21:21.33 | nickv111 | For some reason, alsaconf isn't recognizing my soundcard |
| 21:21.58 | Zibar | extmod module failed to load ... well, thats not it is it |
| 21:22.01 | gravity | hrm... it works with gnome-terminal |
| 21:22.07 | bahutnoenie | IS XORG ALREADY IN UNSTABLE? |
| 21:22.19 | valdyn | Zibar: no severe error there, try grepping for 'WW' |
| 21:22.22 | PeterB | bahutnoenie: YES! |
| 21:22.32 | nickv111 | !tell bahutnoenie about caps |
| 21:22.49 | bahutnoenie | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.51 | paster | "Zibar" at 212.10.166.15 pasted "xfree log" (8 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/381 |
| 21:22.51 | kyu | bahutnoenie: , yes, just did an apt-cache search xorg and it seems to be there |
| 21:22.51 | kyu | :))) |
| 21:22.59 | PeterB | bahutnoenie: Install a backport |
| 21:23.00 | stew | bahutnoenie: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 21:23.02 | MrKeuner | gravity/ I am checking debian-user logs |
| 21:23.13 | gravity | MrKeuner: Good thinking |
| 21:23.39 | nickv111 | Anyways, whenever I use "alsaconf" with the "snd-powermac" module loaded, it tells me that it couldn't find any soundcards |
| 21:23.48 | nickv111 | I've had ALSA working on this machine before with Debian |
| 21:24.14 | kyu | cust. kernel? |
| 21:24.20 | Gnea | !tell bahutnoenie about sarge->etch |
| 21:24.24 | valdyn | Zibar: thats most stupid that fglrx doesnt even see an error related to your resulution |
| 21:24.47 | gravity | ugh... non-free drivers |
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| 21:25.08 | Zibar | yes, ive done everything by the book and gotten no errors in the process .... |
| 21:25.10 | Zibar | i dont get it |
| 21:25.12 | nickv111 | kyu: Yes. |
| 21:25.34 | Zibar | this is the entire log - its a bit long : http://pastebin.com/315243 |
| 21:25.42 | kyu | Did you put support for your soundcard in to your kernel? |
| 21:25.46 | kyu | What does lspci show? |
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| 21:26.18 | nickv111 | kyu: I put it as a module. |
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| 21:26.36 | Zibar | and my config file : http://pastebin.com/315241 .... :) |
| 21:26.36 | kyu | Is it loaded? ;) |
| 21:26.41 | nickv111 | kyu: lspci shows 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI |
| 21:26.45 | v0L7r[-]n | I have rum X -configure and have produced a XF86Config file that does not pass the test. I am running 6 monitors on 5 video cards. I was able to have Xorg 6.8.2 configure a Xorg.conf file with Xorg -configure that was well enough to let me work with it. What I would like to know is if there is a good way to jump start the configuration with a better program compatible with Debian. another thing to add. I was able to get RedHat 9.0 X - |
| 21:26.48 | nickv111 | kyu: Yes, the modules are loaded |
| 21:27.26 | kyu | Your soundcard should showup on lspci also |
| 21:27.34 | v0L7r[-]n | it also used XFree86 4.3.0 |
| 21:27.37 | nickv111 | kyu: I don't know what I'm looking for... |
| 21:27.42 | kyu | for example, on my laptop i can see 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalCle... etc |
| 21:27.45 | mathieu | where do i find major/minor numbers of drivers? |
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| 21:27.57 | nickv111 | kyu: May I PM you the output of lspci? |
| 21:28.13 | kyu | Sure |
| 21:28.18 | kyu | pm me the output of lsmod also |
| 21:28.46 | MrKeuner | gravity/ Somebosy has already filed a bug against it in xterm. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=318280 but it should be a bigger problem somewhere I have no idea on. |
| 21:28.56 | Eulex | kyu, no -- let him use paster -- then other people can help too |
| 21:29.14 | valdyn | Zibar: try adding this after the comments on top( \ indicates newline ): Section "Modes" \ Modeline "1280x768" 99.38 1280 1320 1424 1640 768 770 773 808 # 99 MHz, 60.6 kHz, 75.0 Hz \ EndSection |
| 21:29.34 | Zibar | ok |
| 21:30.18 | Eulex | 1280x768? that's ann odd mode |
| 21:30.31 | valdyn | Zibar: if that does not work alone, additionally comment out the 'Load "ddc"' |
| 21:30.39 | gravity | MrKeuner: Ok, cool. Thanks for letting me know. I'll try and have a look at it asap. |
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| 21:31.53 | gravity | Ohhhh... that bug. I'd forgotten about that one. |
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| 21:32.02 | gravity | For -4 probably, although maybe I can roll it in to -3 |
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| 21:32.36 | Zibar | ok |
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| 21:32.40 | mihai_ | i'm going to get the installation system and get the packages from the internet, what repo should i use ? |
| 21:32.45 | revenger | does anyone know an usb tv tuner that works with linux? |
| 21:32.52 | mihai_ | will i have problems with testing ? |
| 21:32.59 | pudo | hi all. I have just debootstrapped a sarge but upon startup it doesn't load any services. i've checked inittab and rc*.d ... what else could be wrong? |
| 21:33.24 | Gnea | !tell mihai_ about testing |
| 21:33.28 | valdyn | pudo: what is in /etc/init.d/ ? |
| 21:33.47 | pudo | valdyn: all the startup scripts ;-) |
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| 21:34.56 | valdyn | pudo: like? tell one service |
| 21:35.18 | mirak | is there a program that can put jobs in queues ? |
| 21:35.19 | pudo | postfix, i.e. |
| 21:35.26 | mirak | I mean bash jobs |
| 21:35.35 | revenger | mirak: ah? "at"? |
| 21:35.41 | mirak | application than can be suspended with ctr+z |
| 21:35.43 | Gnea | mirak: nhup |
| 21:35.51 | Gnea | er |
| 21:35.53 | mirak | I check that |
| 21:35.53 | Gnea | nohup |
| 21:35.58 | mihai_ | so i should use testing for netinstall or stable ? |
| 21:35.59 | valdyn | pudo: oh , easier, there should be a 'mountvirtfs*', is /proc mounted? is any virtual fs mounted? |
| 21:36.10 | Gnea | mihai_: what's the purpose of the system? |
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| 21:36.18 | mirak | Gnea: hem nohup just detach a process from the shell isn't it ? |
| 21:36.31 | Gnea | mirak: read the manpage |
| 21:36.31 | mihai_ | Gnea, desktop system for learning how linux works and how to tweak it |
| 21:36.38 | pudo | valdyn: proc is there, even nfs |
| 21:36.39 | shingoki | will debian get wxWindows 2.5 any time before the seas reclaim the earth? |
| 21:36.44 | Gnea | mihai_: start with sarge and get to know that |
| 21:36.57 | pablum | Gnea, mirak nohup is for when you want the job to detach from the current terminal (and not be killed on logout) |
| 21:37.01 | mihai_ | Gnea, i told you i want to do a net-install, i won't download an entire iso |
| 21:37.05 | valdyn | pudo: nfs isnt a virtual fs |
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| 21:37.21 | valdyn | pudo: now what isnt run? |
| 21:37.28 | Gnea | mihai_: pardon me? |
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| 21:37.40 | pudo | valdyn: postfix, courier-* ..., ssh |
| 21:37.48 | mihai_ | Gnea, i will get sarge but what repo should i use for getting packages ? |
| 21:38.00 | Gnea | mihai_: whatever works |
| 21:38.09 | Gnea | mihai_: there are so many |
| 21:38.15 | yoo | Hi all ! |
| 21:38.22 | mihai_ | Gnea, i mean testing or stable ? |
| 21:38.33 | valdyn | pudo: init S for single user mode i guess, init ( any of 2-5 ) to start services again.. does that work? |
| 21:38.37 | Gnea | mihai_: just do stable (sarge) |
| 21:38.45 | pablum | mihai_, you still need the netinst image, or at least the netboot tarball to create one... the netinst image isn't a full 680M iirc. |
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| 21:39.05 | mihai_ | i know that's what i was saying |
| 21:39.07 | pudo | valdyn: init 5 has no effect whatsoever |
| 21:39.10 | v0L7r[-]n | Don't recommend Debian to your friends, recommend Ubuntu, Debian goodness without Debian BS. |
| 21:39.11 | Gnea | so was i |
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| 21:39.25 | Gnea | !tell mihai_ about arge |
| 21:39.29 | Gnea | !tell mihai_ about sarge |
| 21:39.32 | v0L7r[-]n | I agree |
| 21:39.45 | valdyn | pudo: b/c that is your current runlevel? I dont know which one you're in. ( or what debians default is ) |
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| 21:39.57 | mihai_ | Gnea, NO |
| 21:39.59 | pudo | i tried both 2 and 5 |
| 21:39.59 | Gnea | v0L7r[-]n: who invited you back here |
| 21:40.03 | v0L7r[-]n | don;t you no, it don't fucken matter |
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| 21:40.21 | Gnea | mihai_: you asked a question, i answered it. |
| 21:40.22 | Zibar | Valdyn: i get a parse error, could you send that line again ? it says Modeline VTotal Expected .... sry if i made a typo :) ... pls send it in pm if its not to much trouble |
| 21:40.29 | pablum | he still here? |
| 21:40.39 | troll | hahhaha |
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| 21:40.46 | troll | mother fuckers |
| 21:40.47 | Gnea | mihai_: don't tell me no when you don't know. |
| 21:41.08 | deadcat | troll: mother fucker |
| 21:41.13 | mihai_ | does Xorg work well with sarge? |
| 21:41.25 | deadcat | !tell mihai_ about xorg debs |
| 21:41.26 | clueless | are there any program that can 'trick' linux to think that my landscape monitor is two portrait monitor? |
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| 21:41.40 | pudo | valdyn: got any clue? |
| 21:41.40 | Gnea | !ops troll [04:40PM] <troll> mother fuckers |
| 21:41.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: troll [04:40PM] <troll> mother fuckers |
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| 21:41.54 | Ronin | i see troll is living up to thier real colors finally |
| 21:41.57 | pablum | !ops voltr0n S0106000d889789bb.vc.shawcable.net is a troll |
| 21:41.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: voltr0n S0106000d889789bb.vc.shawcable.net is a troll |
| 21:42.04 | deadcat | Gnea: i knew that mother fucker was a troll when he had his other stupid nick |
| 21:42.11 | mihai_ | debian is so old yet xorg is still unstable? why ? |
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| 21:42.21 | Gnea | deadcat: yeah he was in here trolling yesterday too |
| 21:42.25 | Gnea | !tell mihai_ about xorg |
| 21:42.30 | Ronin | mihai_: debian is old? explain that please |
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| 21:42.37 | deadcat | mihai_: define old. |
| 21:42.55 | troll | trolling my ass |
| 21:42.57 | Gnea | mihai_: it's being worked in right now. debian has been around awhile, it is constantly evolving, so it is always new |
| 21:42.58 | mihai_ | been around fo so much time// |
| 21:43.11 | deadcat | mihai_: that dont mean shit. |
| 21:43.12 | jdhutchin1 | mihai_, read the links in /msg dpkg xorg, they will explain it |
| 21:43.12 | Gnea | anyway |
| 21:43.17 | Ronin | sure you are troll |
| 21:43.17 | troll | I study hard assholes |
| 21:43.19 | Gnea | i have more important things to do, ttyl |
| 21:43.26 | Gnea | troll: kiss my ass. |
| 21:43.31 | troll | you look how far I've come |
| 21:43.33 | Ronin | mihai_: sarge is stable what 1 month? hows that old |
| 21:43.50 | valdyn | pudo: not really, if init wasnt working then you wouldnt get a login, so your error is with the rcX.d directories and links inside or some of you initscripts i guess |
| 21:43.53 | deadcat | troll: let me guess. you come here for help and didnt get any. HAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 21:44.07 | Ronin | deadcat: well they did need some handholding.. |
| 21:44.14 | deadcat | and i am one of those people who refuse to help ya |
| 21:44.22 | pablum | troll: v0L7r[-]n Don't recommend Debian to your friends, recommend Ubuntu, Debian goodness without Debian BS. |
| 21:44.23 | deadcat | Ronin: fuck 'em (= |
| 21:44.39 | mirak | revenger: I am reading at man page but I don't see how I can do what I want |
| 21:46.13 | revenger | mirak: maybe fifos? |
| 21:46.14 | revenger | mkfifo? |
| 21:46.16 | troll | When I first came in this channel to ask a couple basic questions I was ambushed with asshole |
| 21:46.20 | Zibar | ok, now it says : this section must have an identifier line ... what should go here ? the identifier for my display ? |
| 21:46.23 | nforbes | ASSHOLE |
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| 21:46.32 | revenger | revenger: just put the command into that file and on the other side read from it and execute the command? |
| 21:46.40 | revenger | mirak * |
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| 21:46.46 | mirak | revenger: it would be more this I think |
| 21:46.48 | revenger | mirak: (err file/pipe) |
| 21:46.48 | dings | This # seems to be degrading |
| 21:46.51 | troll | Is there something wronfg with asking questions in a help channel |
| 21:46.52 | deadcat | troll: yes. and i am one of them.. and you will never get help from this channel again.. haha what you gonna do? cry like a bitch? |
| 21:46.56 | revenger | mirak: pipes are easy |
| 21:46.59 | nforbes | troll, Depends on what you ask |
| 21:47.02 | stew | troll: if you have a debian question ask it |
| 21:47.08 | troll | no |
| 21:47.14 | deadcat | dings: thats comment |
| 21:47.15 | troll | I'm getting rich |
| 21:47.21 | mirak | revenger: hum what ? |
| 21:47.33 | revenger | mirak: mkfifo fifo; while :; cat fifo; done (on the other side echo "foobar" > fifo) |
| 21:47.33 | Zibar | valdyn: ok, now it says : parse error - this section must have an identifier line ... what should go here ? the identifier for my display ? |
| 21:47.34 | troll | do fuck you asshole |
| 21:47.38 | revenger | mirak: maybe that's what you want? |
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| 21:47.41 | nforbes | Ya, did you buy one of those video tapes on owning a business, troll? |
| 21:47.45 | troll | thats exactly what you are |
| 21:47.46 | deadcat | troll: make sure you use a condom |
| 21:47.48 | Ronin | maybe troll should change thier nick now that clueless is available |
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| 21:48.04 | karsten | !ops troll is, um. a troll. |
| 21:48.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: troll is, um. a troll. |
| 21:48.08 | mirak | revenger: in fact I am encoding with oggenc, and I want the encoding to start as soon as possible |
| 21:48.09 | troll | I never treat anyone that way just for being ignorent |
| 21:48.10 | Zibar | pls stop responding to the troll thing, its clogging my display |
| 21:48.10 | pablum | troll, every single time I've watched you shoot yourself in the foot (and mouth off at people) is when people reacted against you |
| 21:48.14 | troll | I never treat anyone that way just for being ignorent |
| 21:48.16 | deadcat | karsten: sunday. aint no ops here. |
| 21:48.17 | troll | I never treat anyone that way just for being ignorent |
| 21:48.26 | troll | asssshhooolee |
| 21:48.32 | mirak | revenger: but sequentially, to get encoded files as fast as I want |
| 21:48.36 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*voltr0n@*.vc.shawcable.net] by RichiH |
| 21:48.36 | *** kick/#debian [troll!richih@richih.staff.freenode] by RichiH (RichiH) |
| 21:48.36 | Ronin | ahh there thats better, cut down on the signal to noise ratio quite nicely |
| 21:48.49 | Zibar | thanks Richih |
| 21:48.51 | RichiH | np |
| 21:48.54 | nforbes | :D |
| 21:48.57 | karsten | deadcat: Hell, shoot 'em all and let god figure it out then. |
| 21:48.58 | mirak | but want to add sequentially since I don't know everything I will add |
| 21:48.58 | Kylixen | I love the smell of dieing trolls in the afternoon. |
| 21:49.04 | deadcat | karsten: hahaha. |
| 21:49.11 | deadcat | Kylixen: sunday afternoon |
| 21:49.15 | drac | Kylixen: Yeah, it makes you want fried chicken. |
| 21:49.32 | Kylixen | Indeed. |
| 21:49.37 | Kylixen | http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/ |
| 21:49.42 | Kylixen | Check that bad mammo jamma out. |
| 21:49.57 | Zibar | valdyn: i need an identifier line to that section - can i just make something up or should i use the string from my display section |
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| 21:51.05 | initech | Kylixen: it's just a mock up |
| 21:51.11 | deadcat | drac: why is it that on some config files on your site required CRT2Position and other CRT2 options when i only need MergedFB? is it because they actually use 2 monitor while i clone mine? |
| 21:51.15 | karsten | Anyone else had cups backends hanging on? In my case, the canon backend, which I don't use. |
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| 21:51.32 | Kylixen | initech: I thought it was pretty neat. |
| 21:51.48 | pablum | it's a good idea... |
| 21:52.03 | initech | Kylixen: yeah it is |
| 21:52.05 | pablum | usb only, no doubt. |
| 21:52.22 | Kylixen | initech: Well, I was saying it was revolutionary, I just said it was neat ;) |
| 21:52.30 | Kylixen | *wasn't |
| 21:52.37 | drac | deadcat: Option "CRT2Position" "Clone" if you want Cloned mode. |
| 21:52.39 | pablum | hmm, serial'd work too. or just store the icons on the keyboard. |
| 21:52.44 | MrKeuner | is debian transition to x.org complete? I am using synaptics to mark all upgrades(smart upgrade mode) and it is still not upgrading some of the x.org packages such as xbase-clients xutils and x-window-system-core. should I do something for this? |
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| 21:53.07 | Tonnerre | Excuse me, but is anyone of you familiar with autoconf by chance? :/ |
| 21:53.19 | Kylixen | pablum: It would be nice in those pesky instances you have to switch to a bizarre locale. |
| 21:53.31 | iii | how to reconfigure network with debian script with sarge ? |
| 21:53.33 | resiak | MrKeuner: You wait, basically. |
| 21:53.34 | deadcat | drac: but i dont need all thsoe CRT2 option and i still was able to clone. clone is (same output as LCD) right? |
| 21:53.41 | resiak | iii: man interfaces |
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| 21:53.46 | deadcat | iii: man 5 interfaces |
| 21:53.50 | iii | dpkg-reconfigure etherconf doesn't work |
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| 21:54.01 | deadcat | iii: do you hae etherconf? |
| 21:54.09 | drac | deadcat: Some options tend to default on something, and with luck they work. ;) |
| 21:54.13 | MrKeuner | resiak/ no problem just wanted to be sure that transition is not complete yet |
| 21:54.24 | deadcat | drac: ah. hehe. |
| 21:54.28 | iii | i want to run the installation script |
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| 21:54.51 | deadcat | iii: thats only during install i think |
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| 21:54.55 | drac | deadcat: My site is not a site btw, just mixed file storage. Looking at all those random files are usually not worth it :-) |
| 21:55.19 | Octopuce | i need to install etherconf |
| 21:55.21 | Octopuce | ? |
| 21:55.27 | Tonnerre | Has anyone of you here used autoconf so far? |
| 21:55.27 | deadcat | drac: some files are helpful hahaha. i see you helped alot of people with their config files. |
| 21:55.38 | Octopuce | and what is the script if it exist to manage servers ? |
| 21:55.41 | Tonnerre | Or can someone point me to someone who has? |
| 21:55.42 | deadcat | Octopuce: try it. |
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| 21:56.21 | Zibar | thanks for all your help valdyn .... im back in x now with the lines you told me to add, but display is still the same .... :S |
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| 21:56.48 | Tonnerre | Zibar, what's your problem with X? |
| 21:57.12 | Zibar | cant get it to run 1280 x 7868 |
| 21:57.15 | Zibar | 768 even |
| 21:57.16 | FunkyGuy | alright lame question sorry, but what file system does debian use, its Linux Ext3 right? |
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| 21:57.36 | resiak | Octopuce: base-config |
| 21:57.37 | Tonnerre | Zibar, it's not a 4:3 resolution, is that intented? |
| 21:57.38 | drac | deadcat: That's what you get on #ati and on some other channels. Maybe I should /part. But good it helped ;) |
| 21:57.40 | rixth | FunkyGuy, thats the defult, yes |
| 21:57.40 | jnk | FunkyGuy, you can choose, but it defaults to ext3 |
| 21:57.43 | resiak | FunkyGuy: You choose at install. |
| 21:57.50 | Zibar | i have a ati radeon x600 on a 16:9 lcd |
| 21:57.55 | Zibar | yes intended |
| 21:57.57 | FunkyGuy | ah ok, thanks guys, gonna go reboot and install |
| 21:58.08 | Zibar | i have installed flglrx drivers and they seem to work properly |
| 21:58.09 | stew | FunkyGuy: /msg dpkg ig |
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| 21:58.14 | rixth | Zibar, you have too much money :) |
| 21:58.21 | Zibar | i have deleted all modes but 1280x768 in my config file |
| 21:58.26 | Zibar | hehehe |
| 21:58.41 | Zibar | 26 inches :P |
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| 21:58.46 | Zibar | looks great when it works |
| 21:58.58 | Tonnerre | Zibar, is your X log up somewhere I can look at it? |
| 21:58.58 | Zibar | but it doesnt ... ( insert big whine ) |
| 21:59.03 | Zibar | hang on |
| 21:59.17 | drac | Zibar: Upload your config too, while you are at it. |
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| 21:59.53 | Zibar | i will, and thanks |
| 22:00.06 | HaroRider | anyone use redhat 9? no one in the redhat channel talks... |
| 22:00.22 | weilawei | HaroRider, why the fsck are you asking in a debian channel?! |
| 22:00.27 | Eulex | !they don't know |
| 22:00.27 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 22:00.37 | HaroRider | haha |
| 22:00.38 | paster | "Zibar" at 212.10.166.15 pasted "log file" (799 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/382 |
| 22:00.39 | nforbes | You're molesting us |
| 22:00.42 | nforbes | MOLESTING! |
| 22:00.47 | HaroRider | nah, no one is talking, at all |
| 22:00.52 | nforbes | So? |
| 22:00.52 | HaroRider | about anything |
| 22:00.53 | weilawei | try #linux |
| 22:00.56 | resiak | HaroRider: Oh what a _SHAME_ |
| 22:00.57 | weilawei | you might get lynched slower. |
| 22:01.00 | shingouz | yes, and even a knoppixsmite is not appropriate this time |
| 22:01.03 | HaroRider | lol thanks |
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| 22:01.17 | Eulex | !redhatsmite HaroRider |
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| 22:01.22 | shingouz | HaroRider: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 22:01.25 | shingouz | ;) |
| 22:01.32 | HaroRider | nah it was about wireless drivers |
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| 22:01.46 | paster | "Zibar" at 212.10.166.15 pasted "config file" (131 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/383 |
| 22:01.50 | YGingras | hi, I'd like to make multi-cd backups, what is the prefered way to do that on Sarge ? |
| 22:01.54 | Grievre | I have a load of packages that are held back, even if I do dist-upgrade. How do I figure out why they're held back? |
| 22:01.55 | Zibar | there |
| 22:02.03 | stew | Grievre: /msg dpkg held back |
| 22:02.21 | nforbes | Zibar, So what's not working? The resolution? |
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| 22:02.31 | Zibar | yes, its not the right ratio |
| 22:02.45 | Zibar | only when i switch to 4:3 does it look decent |
| 22:02.52 | Zibar | i think its running 1280x1024 |
| 22:02.58 | drac | Zibar: You have Section "Modes" with 1024x786. |
| 22:02.59 | Zibar | or 1024x768 |
| 22:03.01 | drac | Zibar: Commend it out. |
| 22:03.03 | Tonnerre | Zibar, I can't seem to find an error message in the lock |
| 22:03.05 | drac | Zibar: Comment it out. |
| 22:03.13 | Tonnerre | Zibar, I can't seem to find an error message in the log |
| 22:03.21 | drac | Zibar: SORRY. |
| 22:03.25 | drac | Zibar: Forget. I misreaded. |
| 22:03.27 | Zibar | ok Tonnere |
| 22:03.32 | Zibar | ok drac |
| 22:03.34 | nforbes | Zibar, Modes"11280x768" |
| 22:03.40 | nforbes | You spelled 1280 wrong |
| 22:03.45 | Solet-deb | what do sata hard drives look like as far as their mount path? |
| 22:03.47 | resiak | !aussiesmite SaneEnglishMonk |
| 22:03.49 | Zibar | noooo ? |
| 22:03.51 | resiak | :( |
| 22:03.55 | resiak | @aussiesmite SaneEnglishMonk |
| 22:03.55 | ravenbird | SaneEnglishMonk: why dont ya go spending all your doc on a town bike bloody hell mate |
| 22:04.00 | nforbes | Zibar, Though I'm not sure if that's the problem |
| 22:04.01 | dpkg | SaneEnglishMonk: godamnit mate it's about time i mow the brigalo suckers bloody hell |
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| 22:04.20 | Tonnerre | Ahh fglrx |
| 22:04.30 | resiak | Solet-deb: sdxY afaik. |
| 22:04.41 | nforbes | Zibar, I don't think fglrx likes your card |
| 22:04.41 | Grievre | Why does libglu1-xorg conflict with all of the mesa packages |
| 22:04.45 | nforbes | Zibar, (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported |
| 22:05.01 | Zibar | oh no, dont say that |
| 22:05.03 | drac | nforbes: "Chipset is supported", not "Chipset is not supported." |
| 22:05.09 | Solet-deb | resiak: huh? |
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| 22:05.17 | Zibar | phew |
| 22:05.18 | drac | Zibar: Try adding Option "NoDDC" to your Section "Device". |
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| 22:05.22 | Zibar | ok |
| 22:05.29 | Zibar | is that safe ? :) |
| 22:05.33 | drac | Zibar: Yes. |
| 22:05.36 | Zibar | ok |
| 22:05.36 | resiak | Solet-deb: /dev/sda1 or whatever. |
| 22:05.37 | nforbes | drac, I know, but any features that this third party may have added won't be supported, will they? |
| 22:05.46 | Solet-deb | ah ok |
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| 22:05.58 | Danar | for some reason i'm unable to install gedit |
| 22:06.11 | Tonnerre | nforbes, but third parties tend not to release drivers for OSS OSes |
| 22:06.20 | Danar | i'm using synaptic, and it won't mark it for upgrade |
| 22:06.24 | Tonnerre | As to my autoconf problem, can anyone help me? |
| 22:06.39 | nforbes | Tonnerre, Well, more like drivers for OSes other than Windows |
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| 22:06.52 | Zibar | dont laugh - but what is the fastest way to restart x |
| 22:07.05 | Danar | ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 22:07.07 | PeterB | Zibar: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace |
| 22:07.10 | Zibar | ok |
| 22:07.12 | Tonnerre | Zibar, Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc, then startx again |
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| 22:07.28 | Solet-deb | one other question... in sarge using gnome why do my windows, while full size, hide behind my bottom panels? |
| 22:07.49 | nforbes | Solet-deb, #gnome might be able to help there .. |
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| 22:08.04 | Tonnerre | Solet-deb, I bet the panels have the topmost attribute |
| 22:08.07 | Solet-deb | nforbes: but its always empty :( |
| 22:08.21 | nvz | what might I look for if I want to go grab wireless card real quick? before the store closes.. heh |
| 22:08.24 | nforbes | Solet-deb, Oh, they have their own IRC network |
| 22:08.29 | nforbes | irc.gnome.org I think |
| 22:08.40 | at0m | anyone know what my 16MB cache HD reports BuffSize=0kB on hdparm -i? how do i know the cache is used? |
| 22:08.50 | mirak | revenger: this work with batch, you do command1 | batch |
| 22:08.53 | at0m | or what doe sthat BuffSize mean |
| 22:08.55 | Danar | nvz 802.11g with better encryption than wep :p |
| 22:08.57 | mirak | command2 | batch |
| 22:09.06 | weilawei | Solet-deb, odd problem... i don't have that issue.. i installed sarge and went to sid |
| 22:09.10 | Eulex | Solet-deb, I don't think it's empty -- there's 72 people in it |
| 22:09.14 | weilawei | im still using XFree86 tho |
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| 22:09.30 | Solet-deb | eulex: is it accually active... i've never seen it active |
| 22:09.50 | at0m | weilawei, you better - i'm running xorg and it has huge memory leak |
| 22:10.02 | at0m | in 6.8.2 or so |
| 22:10.05 | weilawei | at0m, better stay with Xfree? |
| 22:10.08 | nvz | Danar: right, but I dont want to get one that isnt easliy linux compatible.. I dont know that they will have penguins on the box.. heh |
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| 22:10.17 | Eulex | Solet-deb, Althaser spoke a line 20 seconds after I joined -- but he hasn't been answered yet |
| 22:10.20 | Grievre | I'm getting a bunch of weird package conflicts between libglu1-xorg and mesa |
| 22:10.22 | Grievre | help :< |
| 22:10.25 | revenger | mirak: i see it belongs to the at family :-) |
| 22:10.34 | Danar | nvz: i've actually seen that :p (penguin on the box) |
| 22:10.38 | at0m | weilawei, i have to restart X, from time to time, it accumulates memory |
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| 22:10.47 | Danar | nvz: though it was a video card.. |
| 22:10.53 | at0m | like after a day it's at 3-6GB |
| 22:10.55 | nvz | Danar: yeah I seen it on nics before.. but not on wireless |
| 22:10.59 | weilawei | Grievre, by any chance running sid? |
| 22:11.03 | Eulex | Solet-deb, now he was answered by dtanner |
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| 22:11.16 | nvz | Danar: I am likely looking for a regular internal pci I guess. going to be making a gateway |
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| 22:11.25 | Zibar | hey guys - you did it |
| 22:11.28 | Zibar | it works |
| 22:11.32 | Cyis | at0m: so you saying xorg is better at memory? |
| 22:11.34 | Zibar | and it looks fantastic :) |
| 22:11.36 | Zibar | yay |
| 22:11.42 | nvz | might as well go pick one before the store closes and hope its not going to be a pain in my ass |
| 22:11.49 | Zibar | i guess the noddc option was the one |
| 22:11.52 | Grievre | weilawei: seeing as only sid has xorg, yes |
| 22:11.56 | weilawei | at0m, eep. i like my system working. although i ran into a weirdass problem. i have a vim open in vc1 and all efforts to use it have failed.. thats locked up. all efforts to kill vim or that vc login have failed as well |
| 22:11.59 | Zibar | thanks again |
| 22:12.03 | at0m | Cyis, i'm saying i suffer a huge memory leak on xorg 6.8.2, confirmed in #xorg |
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| 22:12.03 | mirak | Revelation: crap no it doesn't work :/ |
| 22:12.22 | weilawei | Grievre, oops.. i spaced it on xorg.. but right now xorg isn't playing nice with anything |
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| 22:12.25 | Althaser | Eulex me ? |
| 22:12.44 | at0m | luckily irc runs remotely in screen here, no need to reboot that machine eh |
| 22:12.50 | Eulex | Althaser, Solet-deb was asking if #gnome was active |
| 22:12.54 | Grievre | weilawei: ok |
| 22:12.58 | Cyis | good to know... have a bad enough problem with xfree86 chewing up memory |
| 22:13.04 | at0m | :/ |
| 22:13.28 | t3ch | i'm trying to install debian and when i try to install the base system i seem to get a problem....any ideas? the error is "debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 2)" any help is appreciated :/ |
| 22:13.29 | weilawei | and the bitch with sid right now is that it breaks compatiblity with gaim, armagetron, vlc, blender, and tons of other apps i use all the time |
| 22:13.44 | Althaser | Eulex :-) |
| 22:13.51 | weilawei | so i'm not updating any more until i hear it's calmed down |
| 22:13.54 | Solet-deb | weilawei: what are your panel properties for bottom panels |
| 22:14.07 | rbochan | can anyone recommend a business card design program? |
| 22:14.09 | Cyis | I just wish that tomcat5 in experimental would make it through |
| 22:14.20 | weilawei | orientation: bottom. size 24 px, expand, no bg |
| 22:14.23 | Kylixen | Is mplayer not on apt because of legal issues? |
| 22:14.25 | Danar | nvz: dlink seems to make compatible ones |
| 22:14.27 | Kylixen | !mplayer |
| 22:14.31 | Kylixen | =\ |
| 22:14.32 | at0m | Cyis, after boot xorg takes about 14mb here, soon it will be in the hundreds |
| 22:14.35 | Cyis | rbochan: paper biz card or CD biz card? |
| 22:14.35 | weilawei | Kylixen, yeah |
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| 22:14.37 | Eulex | !marillat |
| 22:14.43 | rbochan | Cyis: paper |
| 22:14.45 | weilawei | Kylixen, add non-free.. i htink its in there |
| 22:14.45 | jdhutchin1 | Kylixen, correct, mplayer is minefield of potential legal issues |
| 22:14.48 | Grievre | weilawei: if I do --download-only, will it not remove any packages? |
| 22:14.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, mplayer is not packaged by debian for licensing issues, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. |
| 22:14.53 | dpkg | [marillat] an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 22:15.00 | Kylixen | weilawei: Add non-free ? |
| 22:15.01 | weilawei | Grievre, download only won't install anything tho. |
| 22:15.05 | Grievre | weilawei: if I do --download-only, will it not remove any packages? |
| 22:15.07 | weilawei | Kylixen, to your apt sources |
| 22:15.08 | Eulex | dpkg is a little slow today |
| 22:15.15 | weilawei | it shouldnt |
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| 22:15.18 | weilawei | i dont know honestly |
| 22:15.21 | weilawei | never bothered with that option |
| 22:15.22 | Grievre | ugh |
| 22:15.23 | Kylixen | weilawei: I am unfamiliar. Elaborate? |
| 22:15.25 | cartel_ | if .eu has thrown out patents why does this affect debian? |
| 22:15.33 | Zibar | nn all |
| 22:15.47 | jdhutchin1 | they haven't thrown out patents iirc and there are countries outside of europe too |
| 22:15.50 | weilawei | Kylixen, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:16.04 | weilawei | after where it says deb http://blahblah stable main |
| 22:16.04 | Kylixen | Just echo non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 22:16.12 | weilawei | on that line add non-free to the end |
| 22:16.16 | jdhutchin1 | weilawei, mplayer isn't in any offical repositories, non-free included |
| 22:16.16 | Eulex | Kylixen, not really |
| 22:16.18 | Kylixen | ok |
| 22:16.19 | Cyis | rbochan: I use LaTeX to produce my own and print out on laser printer |
| 22:16.21 | weilawei | jdhutchin1, oh |
| 22:16.23 | weilawei | Kylixen, nvm then |
| 22:16.27 | at0m | anyone can advise me on where to talk hdparm - been asking for days w/o replies here |
| 22:16.27 | rbochan | latex eh? |
| 22:16.28 | drac | oh, NoDCC worked. Writes personal note. |
| 22:16.44 | Dazgard | hi, does someone know where is the postfix irc channel please ? |
| 22:16.52 | jdhutchin1 | at0m, what do you mean, talk hdparm? |
| 22:16.52 | weilawei | jdhutchin1, i had this thought that it was in non-free for some reason.. but im a vlc user anyways |
| 22:16.56 | weilawei | VLC > mplayer |
| 22:17.20 | at0m | jdhutchin1, i waqnt to know why my hd returns BuffSize=0kB while it has 16mb cache |
| 22:17.44 | at0m | the other drivers report correctly, except for one that has 8 reports 2mb |
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| 22:17.52 | Cyis | rbochan: yeah... I use a LaTeX template to produce a PDF file... |
| 22:17.59 | rbochan | Cyis: I used one a while back, I just can't remember what it was called |
| 22:18.24 | Cyis | GIMP also had a biz card script-fu I thought as well |
| 22:18.33 | Cyis | if you wanted something completely graphical |
| 22:18.41 | at0m | jdhutchin1, so if i can understand what that BuffSize exactly means, would be helpfull |
| 22:18.46 | rbochan | glabels or something like that, I think |
| 22:18.47 | at0m | but no one seems to know here eh |
| 22:18.53 | weilawei | Cyis, i have yet to figure out how to do intuitive rectangular marquees in Gimp... |
| 22:18.53 | rbochan | gimp has one too? |
| 22:18.56 | weilawei | it just doesnt seem to work |
| 22:19.25 | weilawei | like i have a 1280x1024 image,.. pick the marquee tool, set it to fixed size 800x600 px and it tries to snap to the boundaries of the image no matter what |
| 22:19.34 | Grievre | okay |
| 22:19.36 | weilawei | im spoiled from photoshop |
| 22:19.47 | Grievre | how would I brainwash apt/dpkg into believing that libglu1-xorg is in fact installed |
| 22:20.09 | Cyis | I don't do much graphical work... the image on my personal biz card is the most I've done graphically |
| 22:20.29 | Eulex | weilawei, I think that would be better aired in #gimp |
| 22:20.29 | rbochan | yes, I suck at it myself, but I already have a logo done |
| 22:20.31 | rixth | weilawei, it's a hard change from Photoship to the Gimp, I'd have to say PS is bette.r |
| 22:20.40 | weilawei | rixth, tis true |
| 22:20.43 | karsten | Grievre: Well, installing it is one option. |
| 22:20.43 | weilawei | which is why i still use PS |
| 22:20.49 | elephantman | Hi all |
| 22:20.49 | weilawei | but for that i have to reboot into windows |
| 22:20.55 | karsten | Grievre: ... 'equivs' may be what you're looking for. |
| 22:20.57 | elephantman | Is there something like "mget" on redhat ? |
| 22:20.59 | weilawei | and i like debian much better |
| 22:21.09 | weilawei | !redhatsmite elephantman |
| 22:21.10 | shingouz | elephantman: how should we know? |
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| 22:21.43 | elephantman | shingouz: saying same thing on #redhat |
| 22:21.45 | karsten | weilawei: Um. What's the marquee tool? |
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| 22:21.56 | nick23 | has anyone got X.org working with nividia cards? |
| 22:21.57 | weilawei | karsten, marquee is a fancy name for selection on graphics work |
| 22:21.59 | Cyis | weilawei: VMware ;) |
| 22:22.05 | weilawei | Cyis, EW. |
| 22:22.07 | shingouz | elephantman: ask somewhere else. this is #debian and we use, surprise surprise... Debian! |
| 22:22.09 | lcore_ | Hmm. Chrootkit wrote: Warning: `//root/.bash_history' file size is zero. What apart from an intruder could zero it? |
| 22:22.10 | weilawei | windows AND VMware |
| 22:22.22 | Cyis | that's the only way I allow Windows on my system |
| 22:22.24 | Grievre | karsten: I already explained in great detail why I can't install it >:( |
| 22:22.28 | Cyis | it gets started only when I need it |
| 22:22.30 | rixth | lcore_, I find it's sometimes zeroed |
| 22:22.35 | rixth | Just seems to happen |
| 22:22.38 | elephantman | shingouz: don't waste your time writing answer like that - i know this chan |
| 22:22.49 | karsten | weilawei: Um. OK... |
| 22:23.02 | karsten | Grievre: Oh. x.org. Expect major breakage, and RTFM. Slashdot's posted a link to same today. |
| 22:23.03 | resiak | elephantman: Why the hell are you asking us, anyway? |
| 22:23.13 | karsten | Grievre: I'm not going there for a few weeks m'self. |
| 22:23.30 | weilawei | karsten, hehe i never got it either.. i just understood that it was called a marquee tool and what it made was a selection |
| 22:23.42 | karsten | Grievre: Otherwise, interactive aptitude with both sid & testing sources is good at resolving deps. |
| 22:23.45 | nforbes | elephantman, Your ass is a bit wide today, hmm? Looks sort of grayish, and ooh... you have a tail! |
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| 22:24.01 | weilawei | What's big, grey, and doesn't matter? |
| 22:24.05 | elephantman | resiak: cause a debian user here could have had to deal with a redhat system |
| 22:24.08 | weilawei | Does it really matter? It's irrelephant. |
| 22:24.15 | karsten | weilawei: Is this the "select by color" / "select by regions" tool? Or the rectangular select? |
| 22:24.22 | nforbes | weilawei, Wow, that was really bad... hehe |
| 22:24.32 | weilawei | karsten, it's rectangular, polygonal, freehand.. |
| 22:24.34 | elephantman | weilawei: :) |
| 22:24.35 | weilawei | circular even |
| 22:24.56 | karsten | weilawei: OK... NFC. What's the image, what format? |
| 22:25.00 | resiak | elephantman: I have to deal with them at work, but surely a redhat channel is _full_ of people who use redhat and hence know these things? |
| 22:25.09 | Agraj | anyone know why this apt uri: 'deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free' fails to fetch all the contrib and non-free packages lists? |
| 22:25.26 | weilawei | lol im just trying to figure out how to do a simple rectangular selection in Gimp that doesnt act like a spastic idiot |
| 22:25.42 | elephantman | resiak: redhat chan is dead - nobody is active |
| 22:25.45 | weilawei | this one happened to be a PNG screenshot that i needed to crop |
| 22:25.52 | resiak | elephantman: Oh no! |
| 22:25.58 | nforbes | It's hard to do anything in Gimp that isn't followed by spastic idiocy, weilawei |
| 22:25.58 | weilawei | elephantman, are you by any chance related to HaroRider? |
| 22:26.17 | resiak | elephantman: What _is_ mget anyway? |
| 22:26.50 | Grievre | why is it saying some X packages can't be authenticated |
| 22:26.56 | Eulex | elephantman, maybe you could give them a description on what the command you're searching for would do? and you could try #fedora, redhat is quite similar afaik |
| 22:27.00 | Eulex | !they don't know |
| 22:27.00 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 22:27.15 | paulswm | mget is the ftp command for getting multiple files with globbing actually |
| 22:27.55 | elephantman | resiak: you are right - i don't know from what part of my brain it comes from |
| 22:28.01 | Grievre | oh |
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| 22:28.05 | Grievre | THAT'S why the packages are held back |
| 22:28.13 | elephantman | resiak: i thought it was the app to download a file from command line |
| 22:28.14 | Grievre | they require newer versions of libraries than what exist O.o |
| 22:28.19 | resiak | elephantman: wget! |
| 22:28.27 | elephantman | resiak: yep |
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| 22:28.47 | felo | help |
| 22:28.49 | felo | help |
| 22:28.49 | Danar | anyone know why gedit: Depends: libaspell15c2 (>= 0.60), but installing it wants to remove half of what's on my system? |
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| 22:28.54 | elephantman | resiak: better with the right name....sorry |
| 22:29.00 | elephantman | its on redhat sys too |
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| 22:29.05 | resiak | elephantman: wget is indeed in RedHat. |
| 22:29.16 | Eulex | !btssmite Danar |
| 22:29.22 | elephantman | resiak: well sorry - thanx |
| 22:29.23 | weilawei | Danar, the rest of your system depends on stuff that hasn't been updated yet and conflicts with the newer stuff |
| 22:29.24 | felo | i need driver daemont sound card dt0398 ubuntu system |
| 22:29.30 | resiak | !ubuntu |
| 22:29.30 | dpkg | somebody said ubuntu was a see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 or "Based on Debian" |
| 22:29.32 | Danar | Eulex: testing actually |
| 22:29.44 | resiak | Danar: No, you're not in Testing. |
| 22:29.49 | weilawei | Danar, you will royally screw yourself over if you remove half your system and then want that half back easily. |
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| 22:29.53 | paulswm | easy mistake to make, I mean an m is a w upside down |
| 22:30.02 | Eulex | Danar, oh -- but that's a problem in sid |
| 22:30.02 | nforbes | Not on my monitor |
| 22:30.03 | felo | help |
| 22:30.05 | felo | help |
| 22:30.07 | Danar | well i'm trying to get gedit from unstable :/ |
| 22:30.13 | weilawei | Therein lies your issue |
| 22:30.14 | weilawei | Don't. |
| 22:30.15 | felo | i need drivers linux ubuntu |
| 22:30.21 | weilawei | Right now unstable really is bloody unstable |
| 22:30.22 | resiak | felo: #ubuntu |
| 22:30.22 | nforbes | felo, Go away. |
| 22:30.23 | pureone | !based on debian |
| 22:30.23 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 22:30.23 | shingouz | felo: go to #ubuntu |
| 22:30.32 | felo | ok |
| 22:30.35 | felo | tanks |
| 22:30.35 | weilawei | I run unstable but I'm not updating a damn thing till it calms down |
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| 22:30.56 | pusling | weilawei: chicken ;) |
| 22:31.19 | weilawei | pusling, not stupid. i already tried it once and spent an entire night getting my system sfaely back under control |
| 22:31.22 | Atula | is it a problem going from testing to stable? I just realized my sourcelist was on "testing" so I edited it to stable.... is that harmful to the computer? |
| 22:31.25 | shingouz | pusling: he is not suicidal |
| 22:31.42 | Agraj | Atula: well it won't take you back to stable |
| 22:31.45 | resiak | Atula: It won't work... |
| 22:31.47 | resiak | !tell Atula |
| 22:31.48 | shingouz | Atula: not recommended |
| 22:31.53 | resiak | !tell Atula -about downgrade |
| 22:32.05 | Agraj | Atula: but if you aren't broken at the moment it will keep you from absorbing the latest breakage from unstable |
| 22:32.08 | weilawei | it will work if you have the balls to spend hours removing things by hand and reinstalling old versions |
| 22:32.18 | shingouz | pusling: on full automatic i guess :p |
| 22:32.34 | weilawei | i guess his system doesn't see much use most of the time |
| 22:32.44 | Atula | well... I just edited the sourcelist.... and did the apt-get update and upgrade.... and everything seems fine... |
| 22:32.59 | Atula | that's good... right? or will it sh*t on me in the future days? |
| 22:33.02 | weilawei | Atula, it wont do anything |
| 22:33.03 | pusling | shingouz: no ;) But I do have experimental in sources.list - and had dnusinows xorg-packages ;) |
| 22:33.07 | Danar | well, i can't install it from stable either |
| 22:33.09 | weilawei | Not until something newer comes into stable |
| 22:33.14 | weilawei | i.e. when hell freezes over |
| 22:33.28 | pablum | weilawei, that's not balls, that's sheer stubborn determination (and slower than a reinstall. ;) |
| 22:33.38 | weilawei | pablum, true but i had data that i wanted to keep |
| 22:33.38 | Atula | weilawei: so, from now on, everytime I do update... it's "testing" updates? |
| 22:33.43 | weilawei | and no backups |
| 22:33.51 | weilawei | Atula, you said you set it to stable |
| 22:33.53 | weilawei | so no |
| 22:33.58 | jdhutchin1 | Atula, you won't get any updates |
| 22:34.02 | Danar | actually, i can... but synaptic wouldn't let me for some reason :/ |
| 22:34.03 | Atula | oh |
| 22:34.03 | pablum | weilawei, just delete everything but /home and reinstall over the existing partition |
| 22:34.06 | Danar | works in apt-get |
| 22:34.10 | Danar | odd |
| 22:34.18 | weilawei | pablum, yeah.. but i didn't. |
| 22:34.23 | pablum | heh |
| 22:34.24 | Atula | dang... so NOW... if I edit it... and make it "testing" again... will I get updates?? |
| 22:34.26 | weilawei | i gained a lot of apt-get and dpkg experience fast though |
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| 22:34.35 | weilawei | Atula, yes |
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| 22:34.43 | mejo | hi |
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| 22:34.48 | weilawei | Testing is usually pretty safe and updated enough to be worthwhile |
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| 22:34.53 | paulswm | Atula: If you set it back to testing, all should be OK |
| 22:35.03 | Agraj | is anyone else able to get package lists for testing non-free and contrib at the moment? |
| 22:35.07 | mejo | i fail to use sftp on my server with ssh installed. |
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| 22:35.11 | weilawei | but all the best apps are in unstable which is currently as stables as a schizophrenic chimpanzees sex drive |
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| 22:35.19 | jme | who was it that was asking me about glxgears yesterday? |
| 22:35.19 | Agraj | is anyone ablt to I mean (I sure can't) |
| 22:35.20 | mejo | the sftp client tries to connect forever. |
| 22:35.28 | jme | oh, deadcat |
| 22:35.33 | Atula | um.... all netCD install (sarge) is testing? |
| 22:35.40 | weilawei | Atula, thats stable |
| 22:35.47 | mejo | i have 'Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/sftp-server' in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 22:35.47 | paulswm | Atula: No, sarge is stable |
| 22:35.47 | weilawei | etch is testing |
| 22:35.54 | Atula | um.. I did sarge.... |
| 22:35.56 | Eulex | !nyone |
| 22:36.00 | Atula | but I don't know why it's testing now... |
| 22:36.01 | Eulex | !anyone |
| 22:36.01 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 22:36.11 | weilawei | Atula, because someone changed it to testing in your sources list? |
| 22:36.12 | jme | uh, heh, that isn't right |
| 22:36.19 | drac | Atula: You did Sarge, when it was still Testing perhaps ? |
| 22:36.36 | Atula | weilawei: I think I did it when I tried to get some stuffs.... say... java... |
| 22:36.39 | weilawei | Ah |
| 22:36.41 | Atula | but that's contrib, though |
| 22:36.42 | weilawei | That explains it |
| 22:36.48 | weilawei | You mightve changed it |
| 22:36.49 | weilawei | who knoqws |
| 22:36.54 | weilawei | set it to testing and be happy |
| 22:37.02 | jme | ok |
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| 22:37.14 | Atula | is everyone running on "testing"? |
| 22:37.30 | Atula | unstable is probably not good.... but testing is okay, right? |
| 22:37.30 | weilawei | Atula, some of us run unstable.. |
| 22:37.32 | jnk | stable here, unstable on laptop |
| 22:37.33 | weilawei | but we're suicidal |
| 22:37.52 | weilawei | i run my own package by package mix of testing, unstable, and experimental |
| 22:37.53 | paulswm | Atula: Probably most people do for desktops, but not a good idea for an internet-facing server |
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| 22:37.58 | jme | running unstable here. |
| 22:37.59 | Danar | can anyone help me figure out why gedit takes forever to start? |
| 22:38.01 | Atula | ah... what they hey... it's not like I'm running a freakin' government importance stuff |
| 22:38.02 | Eulex | Atula, some run stable, some run testing and some run unstable -- and some are suicidal like pusiling to even run experimental packages |
| 22:38.08 | at0m | i use anything that works, update if it has options i need or want |
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| 22:38.19 | Atula | Eulex: like "sid"? |
| 22:38.20 | Atula | haha |
| 22:38.24 | alamar | hi |
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| 22:38.29 | weilawei | Eulex, some packages are only available in experimental |
| 22:38.33 | Atula | I like to make my computer pees.... and crap at the same time... |
| 22:38.34 | weilawei | Soooo |
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| 22:38.36 | weilawei | We wanted them |
| 22:38.38 | Atula | so I can have some sweat on my back |
| 22:38.43 | pusling | well right now - I only have OOo2 from experimental I think |
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| 22:39.13 | Eulex | weilawei, if they are are in experimental, they will afaik be quite soon in unstable |
| 22:39.14 | alamar | what ways exist to reset an interface`s rx,tx values? (ifdow/ifup doesn`t work/changing /proc/net/dev by hand doesn`t work either) |
| 22:39.23 | weilawei | to whomever just asked about contrib and non-free |
| 22:39.24 | err0rr | alamar: reboot |
| 22:39.26 | weilawei | i just grabbed them fine from.. |
| 22:39.34 | weilawei | rutgers |
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| 22:40.00 | alamar | err0rr: one of the reasons why i like linux is i normally don`t have to reboot it |
| 22:40.30 | Eulex | alamar, why do you want to do that? |
| 22:40.31 | err0rr | alamar: maybe unload and reload the module for it ? |
| 22:40.40 | weilawei | this is interesting..i have it set to unstable, tried dist-upgrade.. no updates to make and yet i'm not running gcc 4 or anything |
| 22:40.45 | weilawei | i still have gcc 3.whatever |
| 22:40.56 | weilawei | anyone know why it might do that? |
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| 22:41.03 | jdhutchin1 | when's the last time you updated? |
| 22:41.05 | pablum | Eulex, maybe because it's capable of 100x but is stuck on 10x |
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| 22:41.13 | alamar | err0rr: that works - i thought there may be a better way |
| 22:41.14 | nick23 | Where can I get xcompmgr (to get the shadow effects, etc) for X.org? |
| 22:41.24 | RogueDopple | ha ah |
| 22:41.25 | weilawei | jdhutchin1, updated my package lists? |
| 22:41.25 | weilawei | just now |
| 22:41.27 | mud | weilawei : you forgot to update |
| 22:41.36 | RogueDopple | write the xorg developer so he can scream at you nick23 |
| 22:41.42 | err0rr | alamar: dont think there is a syscall or anything built in to do it, you could add one |
| 22:41.45 | weilawei | mud, ... i open synaptic, update, then check for upgrades. or i do it with apt |
| 22:41.48 | RogueDopple | or go compile what you need |
| 22:41.50 | weilawei | i dont forget to update |
| 22:42.04 | weilawei | i do it everytime i decide i want to play package god |
| 22:42.06 | mud | weilawei: i use synaptic |
| 22:42.14 | pablum | weilawei, does gcc4 have a dep for 2.6.12? |
| 22:42.24 | pablum | no that's backards... |
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| 22:42.36 | nick23 | RogueDopple: huh? Is it not done then? |
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| 22:42.43 | alamar | hmkay thanks :) |
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| 22:43.53 | masoft | someone who know Turkish, please send a message for me ,,, |
| 22:44.00 | RogueDopple | tht was a coy way of saying those are experimental progs tht can mess up your system |
| 22:44.17 | Danar | i got gedit installed, but it just took 6 minutes to start. can anyone help me figure out why? |
| 22:44.19 | weilawei | mud, http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1138 |
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| 22:44.26 | RogueDopple | and prob won't make it into deb xorg packages for a lonnnnggg while if ever |
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| 22:44.38 | Eulex | pablum, well, I assumed he wanted to reset the packet statistics etc (rx packets, errors, tx ... rx bytes etc) shown when running ifconfig, which I don't see why anyone would like to do -- but I may be wrong |
| 22:44.42 | Eulex | !turkish |
| 22:44.42 | dpkg | methinks turkish is #turklug, or trke yardm iin #debian.tr |
| 22:44.57 | pablum | ah |
| 22:45.00 | nick23 | RogueDoople: Well I got X.org working fine within 2 minutes...runs much faster :) - was just wondering about the extra add-on tools... |
| 22:45.13 | weilawei | jdhutchin1, , http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1138 |
| 22:45.22 | RogueDopple | nick23: if youwant them you will have to compile them yourself |
| 22:45.40 | Eulex | !tell masoft about turkish |
| 22:46.27 | nick23 | RogueDopple: ahh okay..thanks |
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| 22:48.29 | mud | weilawei, nice page dude |
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| 22:48.45 | weilawei | mud, whaaaa? not my page.. twisted pastebin |
| 22:48.47 | eno | is xterm broken @ unstable? |
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| 22:49.09 | weilawei | thats just my paste |
| 22:49.41 | `UD | i have a network at home here, i have three computers on it, is it hard to setup NIS to share information over my network? |
| 22:49.41 | mud | weilawei, im just glad i know about it now |
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| 22:50.01 | weilawei | oh |
| 22:50.02 | `UD | Any advice on how i should not set it up? |
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| 22:50.19 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i'm going to try etch, and i was wondering if most ppl recommend ext3 or another, like reiserfs |
| 22:50.19 | weilawei | `UD, don't place anything over a steaming vat of lava |
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| 22:50.26 | weilawei | I like ext3 |
| 22:50.33 | weilawei | but reiser is perfectly reasonable |
| 22:50.46 | weilawei | resier4 is kinda nonstandard with regard to extended attributes |
| 22:50.50 | streuner | dpkg, filesystems |
| 22:50.50 | dpkg | Journaling filesystems in a nutshell: <peterS> fast but dangerous: reiserfs. slow but reliable: ext3. fast, mostly reliable, and *huge*: xfs. medium speed, probably reliable: jfs. unknown, probably buggy: reiser4. If you have to ask, use ext3, or see http://fsbench.netnation.com/ |
| 22:51.03 | war- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.03 | enyc | weil: hrrm well I thought taht reister was a real hassle for recovery purposes |
| 22:51.08 | paulswm | If you don't mind losing data occasionally, you could use reiser |
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| 22:51.40 | weilawei | i actually ran XFS for quite a while and was happy with it except for the lack of fs tools |
| 22:51.47 | Kylixen | I've never had any problems with reiser |
| 22:51.50 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i had problems with it while processing large movie files under suse, then tried jfs and it quickly bombed |
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| 22:51.56 | enyc | weil: ?what sort of fs tools were you missing out on? |
| 22:52.10 | `UD | weilawei: well, thats perfectly reasnoble information you passed on.. you must have a REALLY high IQ right |
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| 22:52.25 | weilawei | `UD, nah it's topping out about 2 |
| 22:52.30 | streuner | Kylixen: most people drive by car, but many people died too... |
| 22:52.33 | weilawei | enyc, patition resizing and such.. i got the urge to tweak it |
| 22:52.41 | enyc | weil : kk |
| 22:52.54 | Kylixen | Holy mother of dog, we are having a filesystem war. |
| 22:53.00 | Kylixen | I need to have sex with something... quick. |
| 22:53.04 | weilawei | Kylixen, seemed more like an intelligent debate to me.. |
| 22:53.08 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i just want the best for normal desktop use, and something that won't cause me to reinstall when the power goes out |
| 22:53.09 | paulswm | I don't see a war, just a discussion |
| 22:53.10 | weilawei | unless i was ignoring you. |
| 22:53.21 | weilawei | The_Chaos_Ewok, ext3 is safe |
| 22:53.27 | paulswm | The_Chaos_Ewok: ext3 then. |
| 22:53.54 | weilawei | Get a block you two. |
| 22:53.57 | The_Chaos_Ewok | that's what i've been using, I just wanted to see if there were any that may have improved while i wasn't looking |
| 22:54.02 | paulswm | I've tested ext3 with power-outs while writing, and it didn't break. |
| 22:54.05 | weilawei | The_Chaos_Ewok, nah not really |
| 22:54.11 | paulswm | Mind you, ntfs did well too |
| 22:54.14 | Kylixen | "arg, is reiserfs I tell yas. You slow old cronnies and your ext3, ARRRRGGGggg" |
| 22:54.24 | weilawei | my power likes to go off for longer than my UPS can handle on batterly... it survived just fine |
| 22:54.25 | streuner | Kylixen: filesystem should be just safe, its pretty annoying when you loose data with such issues... |
| 22:54.53 | Kylixen | streuner: I've never lost data, so I suppose i'm kind of at a loss for words in this situation? |
| 22:55.00 | paulswm | Yeah, you want to write all your data slowly, or just some of it fast? |
| 22:55.01 | The_Chaos_Ewok | yes and reiserfs dis bad bad things to my suse box over and over. i didn't try v4 though |
| 22:55.16 | Kylixen | I've heard of people's intel processors melting and blowing up, but that didn't sway my judgement on buying one. |
| 22:55.18 | Kylixen | Shit happens. |
| 22:55.20 | weilawei | !susesmite The_Chaos_Ewok |
| 22:55.21 | PerfDave | weilawei: Your UPS should tell your system when it's running out of power to allow for safe shutdowns :) |
| 22:55.24 | weilawei | is there a susesmite> |
| 22:55.28 | weilawei | PerfDave, at NIGHT... |
| 22:55.34 | weilawei | PerfDave, i sleep occasionally |
| 22:55.38 | paulswm | Kylixen: People's experience vary, I know others who've had no issues with resier, but I know of others who've had problems |
| 22:55.40 | weilawei | and find out about it afterwards |
| 22:55.59 | PerfDave | weilawei: Yes, your system should shut *itself* down safely when your UPS runs out of battery, it shouldn't rely on manual intervention. |
| 22:56.00 | paulswm | pablum: I don't use reiser |
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| 22:56.13 | Kylixen | Hey paulswm: ? |
| 22:56.20 | weilawei | PerfDave, i never tried setting up anything for my UPS on linux |
| 22:56.28 | Kylixen | paulswm: So a neutron walks into a bar, he sits down and has himself a drink. |
| 22:56.29 | The_Chaos_Ewok | reiser was good on my normal partitions, but the ones that i was using for video post-processing did bad bad things |
| 22:56.32 | PerfDave | weilawei: Well you should :) |
| 22:56.40 | weilawei | PerfDave, recommendations? |
| 22:56.40 | pablum | paulswm, yeah but reiser fits so well with the attack... |
| 22:56.44 | Kylixen | paulswm: He looks up at the bartender and says, "What do I owe yah?" The bartender looks at him and say, "For you, no charge." |
| 22:56.49 | PerfDave | weilawei: apt-cache search ups |
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| 22:57.05 | Kylixen | Best joke ever. |
| 22:57.09 | weilawei | PerfDave, i was hoping for anything specific but oh well. |
| 22:57.17 | paulswm | Kylixen: funny :) |
| 22:57.17 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i have a ups too, but lack the undergrad degree to get it working properly. it gives power allright, but doesn't shut my system off for me |
| 22:57.21 | Kylixen | indeed. |
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| 22:57.40 | weilawei | same |
| 22:57.41 | paulswm | Kylixen: not the best joke ever though |
| 22:57.51 | The_Chaos_Ewok | and yes i installed upsd and tried to configure it |
| 22:57.58 | PerfDave | weilawei: Well, it depends what UPS you have, for starters. apt-cache search is the easiest way :) |
| 22:58.03 | pablum | The_Chaos_Ewok, you have a serial connection or whatever to the ups? |
| 22:58.05 | weilawei | i finally got to sneak in my elephant pun when that redhat thing.... came in |
| 22:58.12 | Kylixen | paulswm: I beg to differ. |
| 22:58.23 | weilawei | mine is ethernet connected which means i should turn on ethereal |
| 22:58.28 | weilawei | and start lookseeing |
| 22:58.37 | The_Chaos_Ewok | usb...it's an apc ups es 500 |
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| 22:58.48 | irfaN | hi |
| 22:59.06 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i got apcupsd installed |
| 22:59.12 | paulswm | Kylixen: One of the best ever: |
| 22:59.16 | The_Chaos_Ewok | that was the easy part |
| 22:59.21 | paulswm | Kylixen: at a dance... |
| 22:59.27 | paulswm | Guy: "Would you like to dance?" |
| 22:59.34 | paulswm | Girl: "I don't care for this song and surely wouldn't dance with you." |
| 22:59.39 | paulswm | Guy: "I'm sorry, you must have misunderstood me, I said you look fat in those pants" |
| 22:59.49 | jeff__ | Hi all ,I'm having greif over installing Xorg : it's not migrating the templaes from xf86 please see #flood |
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| 23:00.08 | resiak | jeff__: You are running Sid, it is breaking, news at 11. |
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| 23:00.35 | irfaN | I new kernel compiling. But its give me an error "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" |
| 23:00.35 | weilawei | resiak, nice one |
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| 23:00.56 | briankeys | Quick Q: Whats the command to delete a folder and all its contents again? =) |
| 23:00.57 | resiak | jeff__: Have you had unofficial X.org debs installed? |
| 23:01.03 | resiak | briankeys: man rm |
| 23:01.10 | briankeys | rm hates me =) |
| 23:01.12 | weilawei | briankeys, rf -rf / |
| 23:01.18 | weilawei | *rm -rf / |
| 23:01.24 | rob_lt | rm /path/to/dir -rfv |
| 23:01.24 | irfaN | How can I do ? |
| 23:01.24 | The_Chaos_Ewok | weilawei: that is so lame |
| 23:01.24 | weilawei | gotta watch my typos ;) |
| 23:01.27 | resiak | jeff__: Why not backup your /etc, purge xfree and install xorg? |
| 23:01.32 | briankeys | rfv? thankyou :) |
| 23:01.33 | stew | weilawei: do not do that |
| 23:01.38 | resiak | weilawei: _don't_ tell people that. |
| 23:01.39 | weilawei | The_Chaos_Ewok, i actually did that to someone... sat down at their comp and typed it |
| 23:01.42 | weilawei | hit enter |
| 23:01.46 | weilawei | and watched it go byebye |
| 23:01.46 | rob_lt | verbose |
| 23:02.00 | jeff__ | resiak: no not that i know of I was running XF86 |
| 23:02.18 | resiak | jeff__: Try what I suggested? |
| 23:02.19 | The_Chaos_Ewok | wow, I envy you for being able to destroy. too bad it's the easiest thing to do |
| 23:02.29 | pusling | weilawei: it is not that fun. or at least you have to unmount /proc first |
| 23:02.32 | jeff__ | resiak : ok |
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| 23:02.59 | briankeys | haha... oops =) deleted my /bin folder >< |
| 23:03.01 | dings | weilawei: usually doesn't with bash or zsh |
| 23:03.04 | resiak | jeff__: I can't promise it'll work. |
| 23:03.17 | pusling | briankeys: then you cant delete any more |
| 23:03.20 | Gnea | weilawei: what, they would let you at their goat pr0n? ;) |
| 23:03.25 | spamalope | lol |
| 23:03.28 | briankeys | haha.. i sure cant |
| 23:03.41 | weilawei | Gnea, nope. he was too busy fucking some ugly ass ewe |
| 23:04.02 | pablum | pusling, the copyin memory will suffice for one instance... even if /bin is removed first |
| 23:04.03 | Gnea | weilawei: so looks matter more than respect/disrespect? |
| 23:04.07 | Eulex | what is deb_checkmd5sum? |
| 23:04.18 | jeff__ | resiak : understud .. is ther a quick and diry method for purging Xfree without bring the system to its knees ? |
| 23:04.19 | war- | Anyone here use a P4 CPU ? If so, have you ever tried using SMT instead of SMP support? |
| 23:04.21 | weilawei | Gnea, when it comes to goatse? yes |
| 23:04.22 | enyc | eule: .. trying to check the md5sum of a deb package? ;-) |
| 23:05.06 | paulswm | night resiak |
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| 23:05.11 | resiak | jeff__: Not really. |
| 23:05.19 | irfaN | I new kernel compiling. But its give me an error "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" |
| 23:05.21 | irfaN | How can I do ? |
| 23:05.21 | resiak | jeff__: I'm only grasping at straws here. |
| 23:05.33 | Gnea | weilawei: heh |
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| 23:05.40 | pablum | oh dear |
| 23:05.46 | resiak | irfaN: You did'nt build in your IDE driver and fs. Why are you rolling your own? |
| 23:05.55 | pablum | oh, during the boot. |
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| 23:06.44 | outlaw84 | I have just compiled an application where should put it? I wanto every user to be able to use it? where does most debian user put things like this? |
| 23:06.57 | outlaw84 | I was thing off /usr/local/bin |
| 23:07.01 | pusling | outlaw84: /usr/local/bin |
| 23:07.03 | PerfDave | outlaw84: /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 23:07.07 | jeff__ | resiak: thanks I appreciate the effort I'll keep after it - I may just have to wait till they get every thing recompiled around it - thanks though |
| 23:07.27 | resiak | jeff__: Sid's a nightmare at the moment. i'm very glad that I don't use it :) |
| 23:07.35 | ottoaim__ | is xorg in unstable now? a friend of mine mentioned something about it? |
| 23:07.41 | Eulex | ottoaim__, yes |
| 23:07.45 | cartel_ | yep its in unstable |
| 23:07.53 | ottoaim__ | Eulex: scary! |
| 23:07.57 | irfaN | resiak, I IDE Driver FS ext3. I did ext3 option make * |
| 23:08.28 | Eulex | ottoaim__, very -- I've been using xorg from unofficial apt repos now for almost half a year |
| 23:08.28 | resiak | irfaN: You definitely left one out. Why are you compiling your own? |
| 23:08.38 | The_Chaos_Ewok | so sid is unstable, etch is testing and sarge is stable? in increasing order of stability? |
| 23:08.40 | weilawei | as everyone freaks, weilawei is steadily trying to figure out why his system is determined not to blow up when he has it set to unstable and is trying to upgrade more things but its saying nothing is old |
| 23:08.55 | Eulex | irfaN, then you need the driver for your ide/scsi controller too |
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| 23:09.02 | weilawei | The_Chaos_Ewok, sarge-stable, etch-testing, sid-unstable, experimental |
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| 23:09.14 | pablum | irfaN, you have ramfs, too? |
| 23:09.16 | pusling | irfaN: every thing is fine. you have just reached the step not mentioned in any guides: Recompile and remember your rootfs and your ide-controller |
| 23:09.24 | weilawei | okay the rutgers mirror is officially out of date.. |
| 23:09.27 | jeff__ | ottoaim__: yes it is but I've been having problems with it - I'd hold off a week or so :-) |
| 23:09.29 | pablum | ah |
| 23:09.33 | weilawei | i switched to ftp.us.debian.org and its telling me im behind now |
| 23:09.34 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i'm on sarge, and i wand to go 1 level newer and got etch. just checking i got the right one |
| 23:09.35 | irfaN | resiak, Because My mainboard chipset is i915 |
| 23:09.46 | ThePiratemaster | hey guys, how do i get quota to work with reiserfs on a 2.4.27-1 kernel? |
| 23:09.49 | mud | weilawei, the kernel.org mirror rocks |
| 23:09.50 | weilawei | The_Chaos_Ewok, exactly |
| 23:09.51 | resiak | irfaN: Oh, fair enough. Just use an initrd. |
| 23:09.52 | Eulex | irfaN, and? |
| 23:09.56 | The_Chaos_Ewok | thnx |
| 23:10.01 | weilawei | mud, yep.. huge pipe |
| 23:10.12 | rbochan | mud: is that still the default when initially setting up apt? |
| 23:10.24 | ThePiratemaster | on sarge |
| 23:10.28 | irfaN | resiak, yes, I made initrd |
| 23:10.49 | mud | rbochan, dont know |
| 23:10.52 | ThePiratemaster | i made a sandwich... |
| 23:10.56 | ThePiratemaster | yay me |
| 23:11.01 | jeff__ | bye |
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| 23:11.34 | weilawei | pablum, PM me one |
| 23:11.52 | resiak | irfaN: Then you've not even built your root fs or ide chipset as a module :) |
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| 23:12.39 | nicknicknick | how can I locate all .php~ (backed up files) and at the same time delete them with just one command? |
| 23:12.55 | jdhutchin1 | nicknicknick, find with -exec? |
| 23:12.56 | nicknicknick | *.php~ <-- file extensions on the server |
| 23:13.18 | pablum | weilawei, too late. |
| 23:13.20 | irfaN | resiak, My boot loader is grub. My menu.lst is http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/goster.php?no=896 |
| 23:13.26 | nicknicknick | jdhutchin1 something like: find / -name *.php~ and then? |
| 23:13.31 | resiak | irfaN: I haven't got time for this. Sorry. |
| 23:13.33 | weilawei | pablum, yarr |
| 23:13.36 | jerome | are xbase-clients problems fixed with sid now ? I was about to upgrade my lappy but I heard there were some conflicts when installing xbase-clients. |
| 23:13.39 | resiak | nicknicknick: -exec rm {} \; |
| 23:13.41 | irfaN | resiak, thanks |
| 23:13.50 | ThePiratemaster | hey guys, how do i get quota to work with reiserfs on a 2.4.27-1 kernel, on sarge |
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| 23:14.00 | nicknicknick | resiak something like: find / -name *.php~ -exec rm {} \; |
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| 23:14.03 | weilawei | jerome, as of a couple days ago, the scene was heinous.. as of today ive not heard anything googd |
| 23:14.04 | PerfDave | jerome: Check the BTS, install apt-listbugs |
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| 23:14.17 | ThePiratemaster | namesys only has patches for 2.4.25, would that do? |
| 23:14.24 | weilawei | although some packages broken when i tried two days back such as blender are now updated to the new deps |
| 23:14.41 | weilawei | all that remains of my stuff that needs to be updated is vlc and gaim |
| 23:14.43 | exobyte | What happens with USB if I don't have hotplug? |
| 23:14.48 | weilawei | before im willing to update in sid again |
| 23:15.00 | TheAsp | argh |
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| 23:15.10 | rbochan | exobyte: ever get that modem thing cleared up? |
| 23:15.18 | resiak | nicknicknick: You'll want to quote the '*.php~' |
| 23:15.18 | exobyte | rbochan: mostly |
| 23:15.23 | rbochan | how so? |
| 23:15.30 | rbochan | just out of curiosity |
| 23:15.38 | PerfDave | exobyte: Hotplug just loads the right kernel modules to deal with devices as and when they're plugged in, so if you're not running it you'll have to load the modules manually. |
| 23:15.39 | pablum | nicknicknick, you have to escape the { too |
| 23:15.47 | exobyte | rbochan: pon and poff work, I just forgot to do pon myisp |
| 23:15.53 | rbochan | oh |
| 23:16.02 | exobyte | PerfDave: ahh |
| 23:16.03 | solemnwarning | is it true that debian has switched to xorg in testing and unstable? |
| 23:16.13 | TheAsp | unstable atleast |
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| 23:16.18 | exobyte | PerfDave: and if it's plugged in at boottime, the modules will be loaded |
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| 23:16.21 | bob2 | solemnwarning: no, only unstable |
| 23:16.24 | solemnwarning | k |
| 23:16.31 | jerome | PerfDave: well, I did that but there are som any bugs listed ... |
| 23:16.38 | ThePiratemaster | can i use the 2.4.25 patxch for quotas on reiserfs on a 2.4.27 kernel? |
| 23:16.42 | ma3x | hello guys, what's the name of that famous window manager, ice, or blackice? |
| 23:16.54 | bob2 | ThePiratemaster: it might work, you won't know if you don't try |
| 23:16.55 | rbochan | icewm? |
| 23:16.55 | pablum | icewm? |
| 23:16.56 | bob2 | ma3x: blackbox? |
| 23:16.56 | TheAsp | blackbox |
| 23:17.07 | TheAsp | fvwm? :) |
| 23:17.08 | ma3x | what should i install blackbox or icewm? |
| 23:17.10 | rbochan | twm? |
| 23:17.10 | ThePiratemaster | enlightment.... |
| 23:17.12 | ThePiratemaster | O_O |
| 23:17.14 | pablum | yeah, fvwm! |
| 23:17.21 | bob2 | ma3x: depends what you want |
| 23:17.23 | ThePiratemaster | :P |
| 23:17.23 | TheAsp | windowmaker! |
| 23:17.26 | pureone | fluxbox ;) |
| 23:17.27 | bob2 | icewm is windows-y, if that's what you like |
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| 23:17.33 | pablum | !wmwar |
| 23:17.35 | TheAsp | ion3!!! |
| 23:17.40 | pablum | hmm |
| 23:17.42 | rbochan | ma3x: be a man... just use mc+gpm :p |
| 23:17.44 | nicknicknick | resiak something like: find /var/www/vhosts/ -type f -name '*.php' -exec rm |
| 23:17.45 | ThePiratemaster | frisbeesquair |
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| 23:17.57 | pusling | kde! |
| 23:18.00 | ThePiratemaster | can i use the 2.4.25 patxch for quotas on reiserfs on a 2.4.27 kernel? |
| 23:18.04 | ma3x | hehe, quite a lot of choices :) |
| 23:18.07 | PerfDave | exobyte: I don't know, discover might load the correct modules at boot time, I'm not sure. |
| 23:18.11 | pablum | !start a wm war |
| 23:18.11 | dpkg | fvwm95 blows! |
| 23:18.14 | ma3x | thanks,i'll see what i decide |
| 23:18.16 | pablum | bullshit! |
| 23:18.17 | jme | well, duh |
| 23:18.19 | DNAku-san | is it true that unstable is now using Xorg? |
| 23:18.20 | jerome | weilawei, PerfDave : actually it seems the problem is not really xbase-clients related but C++ ABI / libglut related |
| 23:18.21 | pablum | oh wait... 95? |
| 23:18.24 | ThePiratemaster | man i know osme good reason not to choose frisbeesquair |
| 23:18.26 | ma3x | bye |
| 23:18.31 | rbochan | !topicsmite DNAku-san |
| 23:18.32 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon DNAku-san. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 23:18.32 | exobyte | PerfDave: ok. thx |
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| 23:18.52 | nicknicknick | pablum, resiak: something like: find /var/www/vhosts/ -type f -name '*.php' -exec rm |
| 23:18.55 | ThePiratemaster | it dont exist... |
| 23:18.56 | irfaN | Eulex, "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" What can I do ? |
| 23:18.57 | weilawei | jerome, i know.. i upgraded through that mess and downgraded by hand |
| 23:18.58 | jme | i wonder how many people will suddenly flock to unstable just because xorg is in it now. |
| 23:19.13 | pablum | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.16 | weilawei | im staying put where i am right now |
| 23:19.17 | ThePiratemaster | fsck? |
| 23:19.22 | rbochan | jme: it'll be like gnaa trolls to slashdot frist psots |
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| 23:19.28 | pablum | or find /var/www/vhosts/ -type f -name '*.php' -exec rm \{} \; |
| 23:19.37 | jme | rbochan: heh |
| 23:19.37 | cartel_ | jme: lots im sure, who dont realise how much of a moving target it is |
| 23:19.38 | pablum | one less char to type :) |
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| 23:19.47 | jme | rbochan: luckily i don't read /. |
| 23:19.52 | jme | and haven't for some years now :) |
| 23:19.54 | pablum | nicknicknick, no! |
| 23:19.55 | ThePiratemaster | irfan, tried vfsck? |
| 23:20.00 | cafuego | well |
| 23:20.02 | pablum | you didn't put the tilde after it. |
| 23:20.12 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i used http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/i386/ and got an error....perhaps i should have asked first? |
| 23:20.14 | ThePiratemaster | (al i can think off, dunno the fs that well) |
| 23:20.17 | rbochan | jme: if you were here earlier, you woudn't have had to =/ |
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| 23:20.22 | pablum | nicknicknick, so instead: find /var/www/vhosts/ -type f -name '*.php~' -exec rm \{} \; |
| 23:20.26 | jme | rbochan: hehe |
| 23:20.42 | MrMo | is there a reason why I have TWO uhci 2 port adapter and ONE ehci 4port adapert. But can only use those UHCI? and be therefore limited to full speed instead of high speed? |
| 23:20.59 | rbochan | jme: xorg entering sid was a /. earlier, brought a bunch of trolls into this channel |
| 23:21.06 | ThePiratemaster | can i use the 2.4.25 kernelpatch for fixing quotas on reiserfs on a 2.4.27 kernel? |
| 23:21.06 | jme | rbochan: ahh. |
| 23:21.14 | MrMo | I though something like [usb 2.0 pci card]->[usb 2.0 storage device] should use high speed. instead of 'full' speed |
| 23:21.17 | Eulex | irfaN, configure your kernel correctly |
| 23:21.19 | irfaN | ThePiratemaster, Yes, tried vfsck |
| 23:21.19 | The_Chaos_Ewok | is this not the net-install cd for etch? i get debootstrap error |
| 23:21.20 | rbochan | !tell ThePiratemaster about repeat |
| 23:21.24 | MrMo | but somehow the ehci driver seems not to pick up anything :( |
| 23:21.39 | resiak | ThePiratemaster: Try it and see, maybe? |
| 23:21.48 | ThePiratemaster | right... |
| 23:21.52 | ThePiratemaster | on a server |
| 23:21.56 | weilawei | meh tis sad.. rutgers is out of date *badly* but i get 80+kbps down... kernel.org is up to date but im only gettting 40kbps down |
| 23:22.03 | ThePiratemaster | an operatinal one |
| 23:22.10 | irfaN | Eulex, where is the problem ? |
| 23:22.14 | bob2 | ThePiratemaster: then you shouldn't be using reiserfs to begin with |
| 23:22.17 | weilawei | like rutgers doesnt even have the new stuff in *testing* |
| 23:22.18 | pablum | nicknicknick, if you want to do stuff like that you should expt. with it first to see if it's doing what you think it is. Put an 'echo ' in front of the 'rm' and see what it prints, or similar |
| 23:22.21 | ThePiratemaster | im gonna try something see if it screw up my kernel or not -_- |
| 23:22.27 | bob2 | ThePiratemaster: if it's going to cause problems, it's more likely to just not apply, or to fail the kernel build |
| 23:22.31 | weilawei | ThePiratemaster, keep your old one ;) |
| 23:22.34 | rbochan | bob2: care to elaborate on that? |
| 23:22.38 | AlienX | how do i get apt-get to ignore dependencies? |
| 23:22.40 | Eulex | irfaN, we've already told you what the problem is and what you need to do |
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| 23:22.47 | weilawei | AlienX, use .debs and dpkg |
| 23:22.53 | weilawei | apt-get is made for dependencies |
| 23:22.56 | ThePiratemaster | reiserfs is fast |
| 23:23.01 | ThePiratemaster | thats why i choose it |
| 23:23.02 | bob2 | rbochan: on what? |
| 23:23.09 | rbochan | <bob2> ThePiratemaster: then you shouldn't be using reiserfs to begin with |
| 23:23.12 | bob2 | AlienX: you can't get apt to ignore them |
| 23:23.12 | AlienX | thank you weilawei |
| 23:23.17 | jetx | there's one still has woody as stable |
| 23:23.27 | bob2 | rbochan: if it doesn't have features he/she needs (e.g. quota), why are they using it? |
| 23:23.28 | jetx | listed on the mirror page at debian.org, too |
| 23:23.28 | weilawei | jetx, thats bad... |
| 23:23.32 | TheAsp | ThePiratemaster: doesn't 2.6 have reiser quota support? |
| 23:23.35 | bob2 | rbochan: also, reiser's "recovery" tools are infamously bad |
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| 23:23.38 | AlienX | so i'm assuming apt cannot force an install either? |
| 23:23.42 | bob2 | AlienX: correct |
| 23:23.48 | bob2 | AlienX: unfuck your system, then use apt |
| 23:23.50 | weilawei | AlienX, yeah.. dpkg -i package.deb |
| 23:23.50 | rbochan | bob2: sorry, I didn't see the "then"in your statement,, was wondering if there was a problem with reiserfs |
| 23:23.57 | jme | bob2: language. |
| 23:24.02 | ThePiratemaster | well it saved my ass the ;ast time so i think they're okay |
| 23:24.03 | AlienX | bob2, thanks |
| 23:24.04 | weilawei | but as bob2 says unbleeping is better |
| 23:24.05 | jetx | french? |
| 23:24.06 | bob2 | jme: kthx! |
| 23:24.07 | irfaN | Eulex, I compiling kernel 2.6.12.3. But my mainboard chipset is i915 |
| 23:24.13 | AlienX | weilawei, heh thanks |
| 23:24.17 | bob2 | rbochan: ah |
| 23:24.19 | TheAsp | reiserfsck has never messed up my fs |
| 23:24.21 | BlackJudas | udev = broken |
| 23:24.25 | The_Chaos_Ewok | should i use a net-inst image from etch_d-i/? i don't know if there's an error on the iso or if i got an error downloading |
| 23:24.37 | ThePiratemaster | reiserfs all the way for me, just not the quota part |
| 23:24.40 | bob2 | rbochan: well, I am slightly biased against it for eating my /home once, but that could have been hardware problems |
| 23:24.43 | weilawei | The_Chaos_Ewok, use a sarge image and then update and upgrade |
| 23:24.47 | rbochan | heh |
| 23:24.53 | weilawei | sarge netinst plays nicely |
| 23:25.03 | irfaN | Eulex, My /boot/grub/menulst = http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/goster.php?no=896 |
| 23:25.06 | rbochan | I've been using it for about 3 years now with no snafus (knocks on desk) |
| 23:25.07 | ThePiratemaster | has anyone here tried and succeeded? |
| 23:25.15 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i have the 2 sarge dvd's |
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| 23:25.20 | weilawei | ah |
| 23:25.34 | weilawei | buy them to support debian? or burnt? |
| 23:25.34 | Eulex | irfaN, you have been told what to do: compile the fs driver and ide/scsi controller driver into the kernel, and ramfs too |
| 23:25.36 | The_Chaos_Ewok | so just remove the dvd's from my sources and add etch in their place? |
| 23:25.44 | The_Chaos_Ewok | burned |
| 23:25.45 | bob2 | one day I woke up and found my thinkpad had remounted /home ro, too, and that was ext3 |
| 23:25.53 | bob2 | so it all comes back to "computers suck" |
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| 23:25.56 | weilawei | i was thinking install sarge first, then change your sources to something like.. |
| 23:26.05 | rbochan | yes they do.. but they keep me employed :) |
| 23:26.09 | weilawei | deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 23:26.43 | The_Chaos_Ewok | i think i can handle that. sounds more fun than a new net-inst |
| 23:26.44 | weilawei | apt-get update |
| 23:26.46 | ThePiratemaster | TheASP, from what version does 2.6 have that? |
| 23:26.49 | weilawei | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:26.50 | irfaN | Eulex, one minutes.. I check it.. |
| 23:26.56 | TheAsp | ThePiratemaster: *shrug* |
| 23:27.07 | The_Chaos_Ewok | thnx weilawei |
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| 23:27.15 | weilawei | The_Chaos_Ewok, np.. hope it works |
| 23:27.16 | weilawei | gl |
| 23:27.30 | The_Chaos_Ewok | me too. i'll be back to whine if it doesn't...lol |
| 23:27.31 | launch | hi what is the name of the x11 eyes that follow my cursor please, this mayby ugly but that give me satisfaction |
| 23:27.39 | weilawei | launch, amor? |
| 23:27.43 | weilawei | wait wrong waste of life |
| 23:27.50 | The_Chaos_Ewok | amusing misuse of resources... |
| 23:27.52 | weilawei | xeyes? |
| 23:27.54 | PerfDave | launch: xeyes |
| 23:27.55 | launch | thanks |
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| 23:28.05 | PerfDave | xeyes is a great application for testing remote network X stuff. |
| 23:28.13 | weilawei | PerfDave, it is? how so? |
| 23:28.20 | weilawei | (im curious never tried remote X) |
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| 23:28.22 | ThePiratemaster | crap im gonna test the damn patch on some emulated hardware and see if it works |
| 23:28.22 | PerfDave | weilawei: Because it's nice and simple and fast to load :) |
| 23:28.44 | ThePiratemaster | c ya |
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| 23:29.01 | weilawei | after this upgrade im gonna reboot to make sure *nothing* is messed up.. so i'll return shortly |
| 23:29.14 | weilawei | PerfDave, WFT?! |
| 23:29.19 | enyc | ~ how silly |
| 23:29.21 | pablum | mmmm Opteron |
| 23:29.23 | rbochan | PerfDave: boioioioioioiooing |
| 23:29.23 | weilawei | im left speechless. |
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| 23:30.02 | shingouz | PerfDave: you should have scp'd the box over to your desktop |
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| 23:34.20 | lawnchair | ono! |
| 23:34.35 | AjLavJo | "more lemmings" |
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| 23:35.07 | zite | I just tried to install debian on a partition that was about 100gb out from the mbr and apparently grub is not cool with that, now when I boot it sayd GRUB loading, please wait... ERROR 17 |
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| 23:35.43 | zite | more info: I think it was sarge 10.1 and I was using the 2.6 kernel |
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| 23:36.09 | zite | how do I fix it? |
| 23:36.18 | PerfDave | zite: Possibly the BIOS can't handle that. You may need to locate a /boot partition nearer the start of the disk, or ask #grub |
| 23:36.22 | PerfDave | zite: "Sarge 10.1" makes no sense. |
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| 23:36.56 | irfaN | Eulex, I dont find it. Where is it ? |
| 23:36.59 | zite | oops |
| 23:37.00 | zite | 3.1 |
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| 23:38.18 | weilawei | system checks out with no comet tails |
| 23:38.23 | AlienX | hmm any chance apt-get (or dpkg) will list conflicts? It's telling me that packages depend on others and that they won't be installed but that's not terribly useful |
| 23:38.41 | weilawei | AlienX, try apt-get thedependencypackage |
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| 23:38.56 | weilawei | itll say that it wont be installed because blah blagh blah wont be installed |
| 23:38.56 | AlienX | weilawei, i have, with all of them. Same issue |
| 23:39.29 | weilawei | if you back track all the way youll find a package that needs an old one removed first and for some reason it uisnt getting removed |
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| 23:39.31 | liable | zite: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection |
| 23:39.38 | weilawei | usually that means you fscked your packaging somehow |
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| 23:39.57 | AlienX | weilawei, hmm, i haven't done anything but use apt-get. |
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| 23:40.15 | weilawei | AlienX, you can do it all with apt-get |
| 23:40.27 | weilawei | you just need a good memory or pen and paper to write down all the broken dependencies |
| 23:40.35 | Eulex | irfaN, totally depends on your root fs and ide controller |
| 23:40.47 | saskuach | how do I replace files in /usr/lib that pertain to compiling C programs? which packages do I need to reinstall? |
| 23:40.58 | AlienX | weilawei, looks like i'll start on that |
| 23:40.59 | weilawei | libc and gcc probly |
| 23:41.28 | AlienX | weilawei, it's telling me that they are broken packages so i'll just wait until they get updated |
| 23:41.45 | irfaN | Eulex, hdb5 = root fs and hda Asus DVD-RW |
| 23:41.51 | deadcat | jme: go damn. thats alot of fps... and this is plain open source ati driver? |
| 23:41.52 | figfig | I am trying to learn how to serialize, but am surprised by what I have seen. I expected that the Serializable interface would have a method in it to convert the data in the class to binary data, but for some reason the interface has no methods at all. What use is this? How does writeObject know the way I would like to convert my class to a binary stream if no such method exists. If my interface doesn't need to specify a method, why ar |
| 23:41.52 | figfig | en't all classes serializable then? I am confused. |
| 23:42.16 | figfig | oops, sorry, wrong channel |
| 23:42.22 | figfig | I meant that for #java. |
| 23:42.30 | weilawei | hehehe |
| 23:42.32 | weilawei | s'ok |
| 23:42.37 | deadcat | figfig: we dont need to know where is that for. |
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| 23:42.57 | weilawei | deadcat, be easy.. he was getting my curiousity up |
| 23:43.04 | weilawei | i was wondering what lang he meant it for |
| 23:43.52 | saskuach | weilawei, thanks, but that did help, any other ideas? |
| 23:44.03 | saskuach | meant _didn't_ help |
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| 23:44.21 | figfig | Now, how do I copy that long message into the clipboard so that I can get it to the correct channel.... oops. |
| 23:44.28 | weilawei | saskuach, you're going to have to remind me what we talked about.. i left IRC to reboot and check stuff and dont have the foggiest what i told you |
| 23:44.36 | weilawei | my memory is nonexistant |
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| 23:44.47 | figfig | d'oh |
| 23:44.53 | weilawei | OH |
| 23:44.54 | weilawei | nvm |
| 23:44.56 | weilawei | i missed that line |
| 23:44.56 | exobyte | How can I get the status of a dialup connection started with pon? |
| 23:45.00 | weilawei | um.. not sure.. |
| 23:45.01 | saskuach | you said libc and gcc |
| 23:45.04 | weilawei | any specific complaints? |
| 23:45.23 | weilawei | like an error message? |
| 23:45.36 | saskuach | I can't compile after running strip in /usr/lib |
| 23:45.44 | weilawei | OH that ... isaw that in #linux |
| 23:45.50 | weilawei | no idea.. you stripped a LOT of libs i bet |
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| 23:45.53 | saskuach | not even simple "hello world\n" programs |
| 23:45.56 | weilawei | probably most of them. |
| 23:46.00 | liable | !tell weilawei about enter |
| 23:46.07 | saskuach | yup... |
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| 23:46.42 | tordaenda | hello - has anyone tried feather linux> |
| 23:46.42 | irfaN | Eulex, http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/goster.php?no=897 |
| 23:46.49 | nickv111 | For some reason, whenever I load snd-powermac.ko on my laptop with kernel 2.6.12.3, I get a segmentation fault |
| 23:46.56 | saskuach | does reinstalling a .deb overwrite them? |
| 23:47.08 | gentgeen__ | Is there somewhere I can look for any error messages from /etc/profile ? |
| 23:47.10 | enyc | sask: overwrite _what_ ? |
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| 23:47.44 | stew | saskuach: yes |
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| 23:48.08 | saskuach | stew: thanks |
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| 23:48.53 | saskuach | what are some other really low level C libs that I can reinstall besides libc6 and libstdc++ ? |
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| 23:49.00 | tordaenda | how about xtdesk> |
| 23:49.09 | stew | that is the second person today that stripped their libs, |
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| 23:49.24 | weilawei | debian has no beef with public domain software right? they shouldn't... i've got a little python app that i've been maintaining and wouldn't mind packaging it. i just didn't want to bother with licensing (even BSD which I usually do) so i put it as public domain. |
| 23:49.28 | saskuach | no, the first, I just reg'ed a nick |
| 23:49.56 | PerfDave | weilawei: Read the DFSG :) |
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| 23:50.01 | weilawei | PerfDave, i just did |
| 23:50.05 | weilawei | and i wanted clarification |
| 23:50.20 | XFlame | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.20 | XFlame | estou com proplema no nis |
| 23:50.20 | XFlame | eu configurei o nis |
| 23:50.20 | XFlame | esta autenticando certinho no servidor, |
| 23:50.20 | XFlame | mas quando dou ypcat group no cliente não mostra nada e quando dou ypcat passwd mostra tudo certinho |
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| 23:50.39 | stew | weilawei: without a license it would not be distributable by debian |
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| 23:50.55 | weilawei | stew, public domain isn't a license |
| 23:51.00 | stew | exactly |
| 23:51.02 | weilawei | its a lack of anyone "owning" or needing a license for it |
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| 23:51.16 | ma3x | hi :) |
| 23:51.24 | fando | hey guys, my wdm startup time is sluggish since upgrading recently (both in xfree86 and x.org), what could be candidate causes? |
| 23:51.28 | weilawei | are you saying they wouldnt distribute anything public domain? |
| 23:51.30 | weilawei | @_@ |
| 23:51.34 | weilawei | that'd be odd |
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| 23:51.47 | stew | weilawei: everything must have a license |
| 23:51.50 | weilawei | "The license must explicitly permit distribution of software built from modified source code." but its things like that.. public domain says everything implicitely.. not explicitely |
| 23:51.55 | stew | weilawei: otherwise it is not distributable in all countries |
| 23:52.01 | ma3x | when i had nautilius, i had tousand of menus. Now with icewm i have very few, can i get them back somehow? |
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| 23:52.10 | weilawei | stew, oh some countries don't recognize public domain at all? |
| 23:52.14 | stew | correct |
| 23:52.19 | PerfDave | weilawei: If you license it under the Creative Commons PD license, it's probably fine because it's then explicit, but ask debian-legal. |
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| 23:52.37 | weilawei | stew and PerfDave, thanks for clarifying that |
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| 23:54.01 | fando | erm, I'll switch wdm |
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| 23:54.53 | Atula | is there a way to clean up broken packages, left over dependencies.... and orphans? |
| 23:55.01 | Atula | what's the command for it? |
| 23:55.18 | saskuach | deborphan |
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| 23:55.34 | saskuach | deborphan |
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| 23:55.56 | fando | oh yeah, how do I stop the archival of debs? my hd partition filled up the other day :( |
| 23:56.04 | saskuach | debfoster too |
| 23:56.05 | XFlame | I am with problems in the nis,,,,somebody can help me? |
| 23:56.20 | wishie | im trying to run a script to update my XMLTV listings from cron. whenever i do, it fails, with 'listing is bad'. yet if i run it manually from the command line, i get 'listing is good'..any ideas why this would happen ? |
| 23:56.27 | rbochan | fando: run 'apt-get clean' from time to time |
| 23:56.29 | stew | fando: apt-get clean will clear the space; man apt.conf to stop caching |
| 23:56.34 | amphi | fando: apt-get clean |
| 23:56.36 | nvz | looks like I will have to order a wifi card if I want one.. I was not at all impressed with the selection at any of the stores.. all over priced and garbage |
| 23:56.36 | fando | k, thanks |
| 23:56.39 | saskuach | fando, with synaptic, there's an option somewhere |
| 23:57.38 | chealer | nvz: what format do you need? |
| 23:58.08 | XFlame | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.25 | streuner | su |
| 23:58.28 | ma3x | guys i have a question |
| 23:58.33 | XFlame | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.33 | nvz | *shurg* I have no idea. dont know shit about it.. I was going to build a linux gateway to use in place of my all-in-on modem/gateway/wireless access point |
| 23:58.34 | ma3x | how do i get my menus back in icewm |
| 23:58.51 | ma3x | because before, when i had nautilius a lot of menus exist |
| 23:58.58 | nvz | 802.11b/g with WAP I guess |
| 23:58.58 | ma3x | and then in icewm everything's gone |
| 23:59.02 | ma3x | is there way to restore it? |
| 23:59.19 | stew | nvz: #wireless (at least used to be) a good place to ask about wifi cards for aps |
| 23:59.19 | saskuach | ma3x, what distro? |
| 23:59.21 | nvz | was looking for something with drivers in the kernel |
| 23:59.22 | ma3x | debian |
| 23:59.27 | XFlame | help me? |
| 23:59.41 | nvz | the ones at the store looked like crap and were all over $50 |
| 23:59.45 | chealer | nvz: you'll have to look quite a bit :/ |
