| 00:00.00 | nvz | my plans are falling apart before my eyes.. especially if I dont find some people soon.. cause the other state stores and beer dist close at 9pm these foo's were supposed to get hold of me by 7 if they wanted to par-tay.. heh |
| 00:00.44 | hansvi | everyone can get an IP on my AP, but then they're stuck until they can tunnel though via OpenVPN and for that they need a key. |
| 00:01.13 | ma3x | abrotman : are you there? |
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| 00:01.29 | ma3x | oh great |
| 00:01.43 | Ipsooo | i dont see any of my neighbors cracking a vpn, but who knows |
| 00:02.06 | WiFiTux | Ipsooo: never will happend |
| 00:02.37 | nvz | yeah well shit happens.. and sometimes its eaten before its finished happening.. i found out today :P |
| 00:02.56 | doub | WiFiTux: "never" ? what's that? |
| 00:03.13 | abrotman | ma3x: kind of |
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| 00:03.26 | zOap | anyone with experience with mpg321 and playlists? emu, pl? |
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| 00:03.33 | Wyzard | Ipsooo: Wardrivers are also a concern... you wouldn't want to be held responsible for defacing some website because the attack originated from your IP |
| 00:03.34 | WiFiTux | doub: yeha |
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| 00:03.38 | fas3r | hi all |
| 00:03.51 | doub | zOap: isn't the shell completion sufficient? |
| 00:03.51 | pablum | what's the 'A' in idA (aptitude)? auto? (I've been useing apt-x/dselect) |
| 00:03.54 | Eulex | wtf -- why is whiptail running and using 100% cpu? |
| 00:03.57 | hansvi | It took a day to setup, just make sure the keys remain valid for 10 yrs :) (I had to restart a mont later :-/) |
| 00:03.58 | shingouz | Wyzard: hey! i wardrive but i do not crack |
| 00:04.04 | fas3r | i have a question about iptables... |
| 00:04.08 | doub | pablum: automatically installed as a dependency |
| 00:04.09 | Wyzard | Malicious wardriving, I should say |
| 00:04.10 | fas3r | if i write ... |
| 00:04.16 | shingouz | better.. |
| 00:04.21 | pablum | doub, thought so... reading... |
| 00:04.22 | fas3r | iptable -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT |
| 00:04.29 | abrotman | where'd he go ? |
| 00:04.30 | borojer | help, i set up hostfs in uml but everytime i close the terminal need to mount again in the uml session, how can i prevent this ? |
| 00:04.32 | fas3r | iptable -A OUTPUT -o ppp0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT |
| 00:04.33 | Ipsooo | yes i know about that |
| 00:04.34 | Eulex | let's kill it |
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| 00:04.41 | abrotman | #iptables |
| 00:04.42 | fas3r | iptable -A INPUT -i ppp0 -m state --state INVALID -j DROP |
| 00:04.43 | FieldySnuts | !kill it |
| 00:04.46 | WiFiTux | fas3r: what is it? |
| 00:04.50 | ma3x | abrotman : ok fixed it |
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| 00:04.58 | abrotman | ma3x: you got it ? |
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| 00:05.00 | ma3x | now i put fluxbox in .xinitrc, right? |
| 00:05.02 | Ipsooo | i spotted an access with no protection at all, not even wep :s |
| 00:05.04 | ma3x | yeah, thanks a lot mate! |
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| 00:05.07 | zOap | doub, don't know, but all playslists I've made, with both genuine playlistmakers and xmms won't play in mpg321.. |
| 00:05.11 | fas3r | WiFiTux its iptables |
| 00:05.13 | abrotman | !xinitrc |
| 00:05.13 | dpkg | from memory, xinitrc is just use ~/.xsession, or (See entry for ".xinitrc"), or (See entry for "xsession") |
| 00:05.14 | Wyzard | Though on the other hand, it can be helpful... I once got an IM from a friend who was sitting on the side of the road with a broken-down car, and found an open wireless network from a nearby neighborhood |
| 00:05.17 | FieldySnuts | Ipsooo: most of them are like that |
| 00:05.26 | abrotman | !tell ma3x about xsession |
| 00:05.33 | WiFiTux | fas3r: what do you want to do? |
| 00:05.34 | doub | zOap: i guess it can only handle command line arguments |
| 00:05.36 | haker | hi I'm from poland |
| 00:05.42 | abrotman | !tell ma3x about xinitrc |
| 00:05.43 | drac | ma3x: exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox.. to be exact.. |
| 00:05.48 | doub | zOap: but that's not really that hard to do with some perl magic |
| 00:05.48 | ma3x | abrotman : do i put flux or fluxbox? |
| 00:05.52 | hansvi | Wyzard: just use your cellphone! |
| 00:05.53 | abrotman | ma3x: see drac |
| 00:05.58 | zOap | doub, yes, but it says in man that it should support playlists |
| 00:05.59 | ABRAXAS77 | shingouz, ...this is old version of gnome |
| 00:06.02 | ma3x | ok thamks drac |
| 00:06.12 | Draconicus | ARGH |
| 00:06.15 | Draconicus | Goddamned highlight! |
| 00:06.17 | greycoin | I'm a new user to sarge and I'm having problems burning CDs. it says I need to use ide-scsi instead of ide-cdrom, how would I go about doing that? |
| 00:06.20 | Wyzard | haker: #debian-pl ? |
| 00:06.21 | doub | zOap: oh, didn't know. maybe they say what format it reads |
| 00:06.23 | zOap | doub, it even got an -p for it.. |
| 00:06.26 | borojer | help, i mounted my host's directory in my uml session , but everytime i exit terminal i have to do this again, how can i prevent this? |
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| 00:06.40 | haker | thanks |
| 00:06.44 | Wyzard | greycoin: What kernel version are you using? |
| 00:06.45 | zOap | doub, no, they don't.. unfortunately |
| 00:06.46 | shingouz | ABRAXAS77: the stable version of debian is not done with the latest versions. the point is not glitz but stability |
| 00:07.02 | PerfDave | borojer: Run the uml session in screen, and detach from it? |
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| 00:07.10 | fas3r | i want to know if the last line was optionnally? |
| 00:07.12 | PerfDave | greycoin: Are you using a 2.4 kernel? |
| 00:07.14 | fas3r | ... |
| 00:07.14 | shingouz | ABRAXAS77: and before you ask about moving to Sid (unstable).. don't. Sid will bite your head off |
| 00:07.20 | ABRAXAS77 | shingouz, anyway, i dont like gnome,ill download fluxbox |
| 00:07.24 | zOap | arggh |
| 00:07.32 | shingouz | gnomes are evil |
| 00:07.34 | borojer | PerfDave: no idea how to do that |
| 00:07.36 | FieldySnuts | ~irritate ABRAXAS77 |
| 00:07.36 | apt | ABRAXAS77: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses dvd thx |
| 00:07.39 | ma3x | drac : exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox in .xsession, right? |
| 00:07.40 | greycoin | perfdave: i'm almost sure I am |
| 00:07.42 | ma3x | it doesn't work |
| 00:07.44 | Eulex | ABRAXAS77, gnome 2.10 is soon in testing |
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| 00:07.48 | greycoin | wyzard: how do I check that? |
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| 00:07.54 | Wyzard | greycoin: uname -r |
| 00:08.08 | greycoin | wyzard: 2.4 |
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| 00:08.25 | Wyzard | greycoin: rmmod ide-cd; modprobe ide-scsi; modprobe sr-mod |
| 00:08.35 | Wyzard | greycoin: Your ATAPI CD-ROM now appears as a SCSI CD-ROM |
| 00:08.36 | PerfDave | greycoin: Your easiest option is probably to simply upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. It's not hard, and should make things work smoothly for you. |
| 00:08.37 | drac | ma3x: yes |
| 00:08.40 | WiFiTux | who writes the Kconfigs in the kernel? |
| 00:08.45 | drac | ma3x: .xinitrc for startx |
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| 00:09.03 | ma3x | ok, hold on |
| 00:09.13 | greycoin | Perfdave: how would I do that? and how come 2.6 would solve things? |
| 00:09.17 | greycoin | Wyzard: is that it? |
| 00:09.18 | Eulex | WiFiTux, kernel image maintainers afaik |
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| 00:09.24 | Wyzard | greycoin: Should be |
| 00:09.38 | WiFiTux | Eulex: hhmm, so not even the project developers... Heh. |
| 00:09.41 | greycoin | Wyzard: thanks! |
| 00:09.48 | Wyzard | greycoin: Note that your CD-ROM device will then be something like /dev/scd0 rather than /dev/hdc, because it's SCSI... |
| 00:09.48 | ABRAXAS77 | there is not apt-get install xfce? |
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| 00:10.01 | greycoin | Wyzard: got it |
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| 00:10.04 | deadcat | you can |
| 00:10.04 | PerfDave | greycoin: 2.6 works better with IDE CD burners. 2.4 has to pretend that your IDE device is a SCSI device, which is a bit of a hack. |
| 00:10.15 | FieldySnuts | more than a bit |
| 00:10.16 | drac | ABRAXAS77: "apt-cache search xfce" and /msg dpkg search |
| 00:10.18 | stew | ABRAXAS77: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:10.23 | ma3x | drac : it worked thanks! |
| 00:10.25 | ABRAXAS77 | thnx |
| 00:10.29 | Wyzard | ABRAXAS77: apt-cache search xfce... there are lots of XFCE-related packages |
| 00:10.37 | PerfDave | greycoin: What CPU do you have in your system? |
| 00:10.44 | Eulex | WiFiTux, I dunno really, they probably don't decide themselves |
| 00:10.53 | FieldySnuts | ID10T layor |
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| 00:10.55 | FieldySnuts | layer |
| 00:11.01 | greycoin | PerfDave: I see. How should I update it though? (x86) |
| 00:11.04 | Wyzard | ABRAXAS77: "xfce4" appears to be the top-level one which brings in everything else |
| 00:11.09 | eps | when I go desktop -> administration -> printing I get an error that the cups service could not be started. cups is installed though I can't find a start up script in /etc/init.d/ and I need to print this time table stuff :| |
| 00:11.13 | PerfDave | greycoin: What *exact* processor do you have? |
| 00:11.22 | Ipsooo | and now i have a question about the debian installer: i made a custom initrd to include dmraid, a tool that supports software raid from intel's ich5r |
| 00:11.38 | Wyzard | greycoin: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 (replace "386" with "686" or "k7" if you have a modern Intel or AMD processor, respectively) |
| 00:11.48 | abrotman | WiFiTux: read deb of the day |
| 00:11.50 | Ipsooo | also included needed libraries, but it wont work |
| 00:11.50 | greycoin | PerfDave: i686 |
| 00:12.00 | greycoin | Wyzard: heh, thanks again :) |
| 00:12.01 | ABRAXAS77 | apt-cache search xfce dont says nothing |
| 00:12.06 | PerfDave | greycoin: What Wyzard said |
| 00:12.10 | Ipsooo | what do i have to check? |
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| 00:12.34 | greycoin | PerfDave: thanks, I guess I'll give that a try. |
| 00:12.44 | deadcat | ABRAXAS77: something is wrong with your box |
| 00:12.46 | stew | ABRAXAS77: what version fo debian? |
| 00:12.51 | ABRAXAS77 | sarge |
| 00:12.54 | ABRAXAS77 | sgit |
| 00:12.57 | ABRAXAS77 | i was happy |
| 00:13.00 | ABRAXAS77 | shit! |
| 00:13.00 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
| 00:13.01 | ABRAXAS77 | shit! |
| 00:13.09 | deadcat | !tell ABRAXAS77 about enter |
| 00:13.16 | drac | !tell ABRAXAS77 about shit |
| 00:13.17 | Wyzard | ABRAXAS77: Did you install from CD or network? |
| 00:13.19 | stew | ABRAXAS77: paste your sources.list into flood |
| 00:13.22 | FieldySnuts | @shit |
| 00:13.22 | ravenbird | hmm... shit is fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
| 00:13.28 | ABRAXAS77 | jajajajaajajajajaja |
| 00:13.39 | ABRAXAS77 | Wyzard, from cd |
| 00:13.46 | WiFiTux | !nickorama ABRAXAS77 |
| 00:13.46 | stew | ABRAXAS77: err into #flood |
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| 00:13.53 | WiFiTux | hm |
| 00:13.56 | FieldySnuts | nickometer |
| 00:13.57 | ABRAXAS77 | i cant,im in my freebsd server |
| 00:13.58 | Wyzard | ABRAXAS77: Did you maybe forget to put in the CDs to be scanned for packages, when the installer asked you about doing that? |
| 00:13.58 | WiFiTux | ah |
| 00:14.04 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 00:14.07 | WiFiTux | !nickometer ABRAXAS77 |
| 00:14.07 | dpkg | 'ABRAXAS77' is 99.840% lame, wifitux |
| 00:14.08 | ABRAXAS77 | Wyzard, i installed just one cd |
| 00:14.13 | stew | ABRAXAS77: run apt-setup |
| 00:14.19 | WiFiTux | FieldySnuts: ;) |
| 00:14.23 | ABRAXAS77 | ah,yes, stew u r right |
| 00:14.25 | Wyzard | ABRAXAS77: If you didn't scan the other CDs for packages, apt doesn't know about the packages they contain |
| 00:14.26 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:14.27 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:14.27 | abrotman | !r |
| 00:14.27 | dpkg | i heard r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE" YOU MORONS! |
| 00:14.36 | abrotman | ABRAXAS77: talk like a normal fucking person |
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| 00:14.41 | abrotman | or non-fucking person |
| 00:14.45 | ABRAXAS77 | abrotman, i cant,im not normal |
| 00:14.51 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.57 | eps | agreed ^^ |
| 00:14.59 | drac | ABRAXAS77: Pretend that you are for us. |
| 00:15.00 | stew | missing required argument |
| 00:15.24 | FieldySnuts | i keep thinking tomorrow is monday because today feels like sunday here |
| 00:15.26 | FieldySnuts | !permasunday |
| 00:15.26 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
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| 00:15.34 | WiFiTux | ABRAXAS77: shush |
| 00:15.42 | ABRAXAS77 | shush? |
| 00:16.02 | pablum | es heisst "halt die fresse" |
| 00:16.07 | shingouz | FieldySnuts: it is Sunday 2: Monday, The Revenge of the Fucktards :) |
| 00:16.14 | FieldySnuts | feh |
| 00:16.19 | FieldySnuts | !dachs pablum |
| 00:16.20 | dpkg | pablum: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
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| 00:16.30 | pablum | heh |
| 00:16.44 | WiFiTux | what is dachs? |
| 00:16.45 | pablum | Dachs? |
| 00:16.47 | greycoin | PerfDave: One last question. Do I need to change anything else after I've updated my kernel? |
| 00:16.49 | pablum | roof |
| 00:16.50 | deadcat | i am having problem with x-window-system-core being removed with dist-upgrade on my ppc sid. |
| 00:16.54 | WiFiTux | oh |
| 00:16.57 | shingouz | wienerdog |
| 00:17.03 | abrotman | deadcat: you know what .. sid is broken |
| 00:17.33 | PerfDave | greycoin: You should just need to reboot. |
| 00:17.34 | FieldySnuts | when is sid not broken. |
| 00:17.39 | deadcat | abrotman: x86 is fine. everything went ok on the dist-upgrade |
| 00:17.40 | Eulex | !sunday 2 |
| 00:17.40 | dpkg | it has been said that sunday 2 is Sunday 2: Monday, The Revenge of the Fucktards |
| 00:17.44 | greycoin | PerfDave: k, trying it out now. |
| 00:17.48 | Eulex | :) |
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| 00:17.56 | shingouz | hehe |
| 00:18.02 | FieldySnuts | !blaireau shingouz |
| 00:18.02 | dpkg | ENOUGH! |
| 00:18.05 | FieldySnuts | fucer |
| 00:18.06 | WiFiTux | deadcat: is still borked for ppc |
| 00:18.13 | deadcat | i guess |
| 00:18.21 | shingouz | *i* did not make that factoid! |
| 00:18.30 | FieldySnuts | i know, somebody screwed it up |
| 00:18.30 | b1ackcr0w | lo |
| 00:18.32 | stew | !tasso FieldySnuts |
| 00:18.32 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: tasso tasso tasso tasso fungo fungo serpente! serpente! |
| 00:18.39 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 00:18.48 | shingouz | nor did i set up the sunday 2 factoid |
| 00:18.51 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: no, !blaireau is <reply> $1: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau serpent! oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 00:18.51 | WiFiTux | you guys are crazy |
| 00:18.51 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: okay |
| 00:18.56 | FieldySnuts | !blaireau shingouz |
| 00:18.57 | dpkg | ENOUGH! |
| 00:18.57 | initech | tasso? |
| 00:19.03 | FieldySnuts | what the heck |
| 00:19.10 | b1ackcr0w | need help |
| 00:19.16 | FieldySnuts | oh well. |
| 00:19.16 | WiFiTux | b1ackcr0w: good for you |
| 00:19.22 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: forget blaireau |
| 00:19.22 | dpkg | i forgot blaireau, FieldySnuts |
| 00:19.26 | initech | tasso is smoked pork shoulder ... does it have some meaning I'm not aware of? |
| 00:19.36 | abrotman | hah |
| 00:19.42 | b1ackcr0w | guessing u get this question every night |
| 00:19.44 | abrotman | !blaireau |
| 00:19.46 | FieldySnuts | those are supposed to be "badger badger badger" etc in other languages |
| 00:19.46 | shingouz | !tell b1ackcr0w about ask |
| 00:19.49 | abrotman | oh well |
| 00:19.56 | FieldySnuts | @blaireau abrotman |
| 00:19.56 | ravenbird | abrotman: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau serpent! oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 00:20.09 | b1ackcr0w | !tell |
| 00:20.12 | b1ackcr0w | ? |
| 00:20.19 | PerfDave | b1ackcr0w: If you told us what your problem was, we might be able to help you |
| 00:20.24 | b1ackcr0w | k |
| 00:20.31 | stew | dpkg: cmd: tasso (.*?) =~ s#serpente#serpento#g |
| 00:20.31 | dpkg | stew: OK |
| 00:20.32 | FieldySnuts | apt: start a world war |
| 00:20.32 | apt | Pakistan sucks! |
| 00:20.36 | beardy | b1ackcr0w: Just ask your question. |
| 00:20.37 | Wyzard | b1ackcr0w: "!tell" is a trigger for the bot to /msg you a factoid |
| 00:20.41 | b1ackcr0w | installer hangs terminally at sd_mod |
| 00:21.06 | WiFiTux | b1ackcr0w: installer? |
| 00:21.17 | FieldySnuts | apt: start a world war |
| 00:21.17 | apt | Muslims rule! |
| 00:21.23 | WiFiTux | lol |
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| 00:21.55 | Wyzard | b1ackcr0w: The installer itself, or the system after it's been installed? |
| 00:22.00 | b1ackcr0w | have burnt distro to cd from iso images |
| 00:22.18 | WiFiTux | b1ackcr0w: potatoe, Woody, Netinst? |
| 00:22.24 | abrotman | WiFiTux: not oe |
| 00:22.27 | initech | pablum: yeah here we have to use pit bulls or something |
| 00:22.35 | WiFiTux | abrotman: potato |
| 00:22.43 | lucasjb | How do I ask dpkg which package contains some program? |
| 00:22.47 | b1ackcr0w | loosing me |
| 00:22.57 | abrotman | !tell lucasjb about search |
| 00:22.59 | WiFiTux | lucasjb: apt-cache search foot |
| 00:23.04 | abrotman | WiFiTux: no |
| 00:23.06 | Eulex | lucasjb, use apt-file |
| 00:23.07 | WiFiTux | foo, not foot |
| 00:23.13 | nvz | heh |
| 00:23.18 | WiFiTux | lol |
| 00:23.18 | Wyzard | b1ackcr0w: Which version of Debian... "sarge" (the current version), "woody" (the previous release), etc. |
| 00:23.18 | beardy | hah |
| 00:23.18 | abrotman | WiFiTux: no |
| 00:23.23 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: have you check that the burned cd image integrity, ok ? |
| 00:23.25 | b1ackcr0w | sarge |
| 00:23.26 | WiFiTux | abrotman: shh! |
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| 00:23.38 | lucasjb | Thanks |
| 00:23.48 | b1ackcr0w | yup - tis ok |
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| 00:24.02 | pablum | !loose |
| 00:24.03 | dpkg | [loose] the most annoying spelling error. It's LOSE you moron. Unless of course you're using loose in a Madonna sorta way. |
| 00:24.04 | WiFiTux | abrotman: in my case, if I do a search and the foo is listed under the description, it will mention the file. |
| 00:24.08 | WiFiTux | package |
| 00:24.10 | pablum | heh |
| 00:24.26 | abrotman | WiFiTux: he wants apt-file |
| 00:24.29 | b1ackcr0w | apologies for pushing the key twice |
| 00:24.38 | b1ackcr0w | its quite late where i am |
| 00:24.41 | WiFiTux | I dunno why we all non-US have a feeling that is loose. |
| 00:24.48 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: from the main menu in the sarge installer ? |
| 00:24.56 | b1ackcr0w | y |
| 00:25.57 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: have tryed a install with the linux26 |
| 00:26.18 | ma3x | how do i load the sound? |
| 00:26.24 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: sorry linux26 option |
| 00:26.29 | b1ackcr0w | n |
| 00:26.41 | b1ackcr0w | read about this in some faqs |
| 00:26.50 | b1ackcr0w | but got lost |
| 00:27.15 | b1ackcr0w | too acustomed to remond pointy clicky installations |
| 00:27.24 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: boot the cd and type linux26 so that the 2.6 kernel will be installed from the start |
| 00:27.36 | WiFiTux | b1ackcr0w: it shouldn't be a need-to-hack-installation either. |
| 00:28.01 | Grievre | I can't even get past the first frickin screen of elecman's stager :( |
| 00:28.03 | Grievre | stage |
| 00:28.13 | b1ackcr0w | that's at the splash screen yeah? |
| 00:28.19 | ma3x | how can i increase the font of xterm? |
| 00:28.21 | green_earz | yes |
| 00:28.23 | ma3x | using fluxbox |
| 00:28.30 | ma3x | it's too small letters |
| 00:28.33 | ma3x | will get blind |
| 00:28.40 | b1ackcr0w | what's the difference (just curious)? |
| 00:28.46 | Wyzard | b1ackcr0w: "Redmond pointy-clicky installations" aren't the greatest either... I have Win2003 (as a secondary OS, after Debian) on my laptop, because the XP installer consistently and inexplicably fails to boot |
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| 00:29.11 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: the default kernel that is installed is the 2.4 |
| 00:29.23 | b1ackcr0w | ahhhhhhh |
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| 00:29.29 | Wyzard | b1ackcr0w: "linux26" will install a newer kernel which may have better support for your hardware; it isn't the default because Debian is often installed on servers whose admins like to be conservative |
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| 00:30.27 | WiFiTux | b1ackcr0w: they told you like 10 times. |
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| 00:31.47 | b1ackcr0w | sorry - will reboot my patience |
| 00:32.12 | greycoin | PerfDave: ok, big problems. |
| 00:32.24 | greycoin | PerfDave: I updated the kernel and now X won't start up |
| 00:32.31 | b1ackcr0w | thx all - back soon if it works :) |
| 00:32.38 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: bookmark the link "Debian Reference " > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html |
| 00:32.45 | PerfDave | greycoin: That's not a big problem, necessarily. |
| 00:33.06 | PerfDave | greycoin: I suspect you may need to just change your mouse device. Or if you're using the nvidia or fglrx propriatery drivers, you'll need to rebuild them for your new kernel. |
| 00:33.16 | green_earz | b1ackcr0w: all the best |
| 00:33.35 | b1ackcr0w | cheers - see you soon :) |
| 00:33.47 | greycoin | PerfDave: I'm thinking of downgrading the kernel back to 2.4 I can't really rebuild my nvidia drivers without getting online again and I can't do that properly without X, I guess |
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| 00:34.09 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 00:34.09 | dpkg | refcard is probably http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 00:34.20 | mngrif | greycoin: i surf all the time in a fbcon... use elinks, it's rather nice |
| 00:34.29 | far | Hello, How can I access a network interface (eth0) with minicom ? is it possible ? |
| 00:34.31 | PerfDave | greycoin: Your 2.4 kernel is still installed, you can select it at boot time. However, going online has nothing to do with whether or not X is working. |
| 00:34.37 | abrotman | far: why ? |
| 00:34.38 | FieldySnuts | far: no, minicom is for serial devices |
| 00:34.39 | pablum | greycoin, you don't have to 'downgrade' you just have to make a selection during the boot sequence and choose your original kernel. |
| 00:34.42 | drac | greycoin: All you need is '/msg dpkg nvidia one-liner' .. |
| 00:34.43 | mngrif | far: minicom is made for serial stuffs |
| 00:34.57 | FieldySnuts | far: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:35.01 | greycoin | PerfDave: For me it does, tho. My ISP requires authentication at their website |
| 00:35.06 | PerfDave | greycoin: One workaround would be to reconfigure X to use the Free nv driver instead of the propriatery nvidia driver for the time being. |
| 00:35.10 | mngrif | far: if you want to send out raw packets, there's plenty of things out there for it |
| 00:35.12 | PerfDave | greycoin: What sort of authentication? |
| 00:35.35 | FieldySnuts | uh every text browser i have ever used supports auth. unless it's ntlm, in which case the isp should be kicked aside |
| 00:35.44 | far | abrotman, mngrif FieldySnuts , have to access a switch using console but need a straight cable ... ( using rj45 -> db9 converter ) |
| 00:35.48 | greycoin | PerfDave:Fielyd? |
| 00:35.52 | greycoin | ouch |
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| 00:36.02 | greycoin | Fieldy: I don't know much about text browsers, sorry |
| 00:36.08 | FieldySnuts | far: what the hell? |
| 00:36.18 | mngrif | far: those are ment to be plugged into a serial cable... |
| 00:36.23 | greycoin | PerfDave: how do I select which kernel to boot? |
| 00:36.32 | drac | Heh. |
| 00:37.00 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: mhb? |
| 00:37.08 | far | FieldySnuts, mngrif one of the ends is rj45 ( with a converter ) but i think the converter also makes it nullmodem |
| 00:37.45 | mngrif | far: again, it's meant to speak serial... don't plug it into your ethernet card, it could fry something... go grab a real serial cable and have a go with minicom |
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| 00:37.59 | pablum | oi |
| 00:38.02 | FieldySnuts | !rfcsmite pablum |
| 00:38.20 | PerfDave | greycoin: You should get a grub menu at bootup, with a list of your installed kernels. |
| 00:38.30 | far | mngrif, FieldySnuts ok ... I got that part just need to get a serial cable that does this |
| 00:38.49 | PerfDave | greycoin: But really, just switch to nv for now to get X working again, or use a text-mode web browser for this stupid ISP thing of yours. |
| 00:38.58 | pablum | !annoyingputzsmite FieldySnuts |
| 00:38.59 | OldakQuill | I'm trying to "make xconfig" in /kernel-source-2.6.8/ but get the following error: * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the |
| 00:38.59 | OldakQuill | * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR |
| 00:38.59 | OldakQuill | * environment variable is set to the correct location. |
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| 00:39.03 | greycoin | PerfDave: nope, it just slides right into booting everything up |
| 00:39.06 | OldakQuill | What don't I have? |
| 00:39.08 | far | mngrif, FieldySnuts thank you |
| 00:39.09 | FieldySnuts | OldakQuill: please don't paste so much |
| 00:39.24 | PerfDave | greycoin: If you've already done the nvidia install stuff for your 2.4 kernel, then you probably don't need to go online to do it for the 2.6 |
| 00:39.26 | OldakQuill | Sorry, didn't realise it was too much |
| 00:39.28 | pablum | hey, that refcard is nifty. |
| 00:39.39 | greycoin | PerfDave: oh, ok. how would that go then? |
| 00:40.06 | PerfDave | greycoin: What do you want to do, switch to nv to get X back, or try the nvidia installer without a network connection? |
| 00:40.16 | WiFiTux | greycoin: wait. |
| 00:40.24 | greycoin | PerfDave: try the nvidia installer wihtout a network connection, I suppose |
| 00:40.46 | WiFiTux | greycoin: just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and then choose vesa! |
| 00:40.55 | OldakQuill | Do I need lib-qt3-headers? |
| 00:40.57 | WiFiTux | then do your thing and continue... |
| 00:41.25 | mount | etch it's available for download or not yet ? |
| 00:41.45 | PerfDave | greycoin: When you're booted into your 2.6 kernel, follow the instructions outlined in /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 00:41.48 | WiFiTux | mount: of course not. |
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| 00:42.05 | NewpZ | i have a photo printer (hp photosmart) the only problem is, i cant find a way to control printing pictures.. like 2 differnt pictures on 1 photo sheet OR print to the "photo tray" which is a seperate tray that holds 5x7 sheets... in windows we use the kodak software.. any clues? |
| 00:42.13 | PerfDave | OldakQuill: /msg dpkg xconfig |
| 00:42.46 | WiFiTux | NewpZ: check linuxprinting.org |
| 00:42.47 | rbochan | pablum: hell yes it is |
| 00:42.50 | greycoin | WiFiTux: but that means I'm not on nvidia though |
| 00:43.01 | pablum | ? |
| 00:43.07 | greycoin | PerfDave: If I simply recompiled from source, would that work |
| 00:43.09 | greycoin | ? |
| 00:43.10 | rbochan | refcard==nifty |
| 00:43.16 | pablum | ah... |
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| 00:43.48 | WiFiTux | greycoin: I don't unserstand you. Calm Down. When I had that problem, I would use vesa so that I could use X and do my stuff. |
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| 00:44.19 | ma3x | how can i load the NTFS driver, to write on NTFS. |
| 00:44.24 | PerfDave | greycoin: REcompiled what from source? |
| 00:44.30 | Gnea | ma3x: modprobe ntfs |
| 00:44.41 | NewpZ | WiFiTux: i dont see anything there about that |
| 00:45.01 | OldakQuill | Sadly, libqt3-dev appears to be buggy |
| 00:45.03 | Gnea | ma3x: modinfo ntfs <-- will show the module parameters: modprobe ntfs something=else |
| 00:45.13 | WiFiTux | NewpZ: check your printer, looks for it in the list and read the comments |
| 00:45.22 | greycoin | PerfDave: from the .tar.gz file I got from -- ah, nevermind. I used a series of apt-get steps |
| 00:45.37 | ma3x | Gnea : ok, i'll try |
| 00:45.56 | rbochan | OldakQuill: menuconfig works well enough |
| 00:45.59 | greycoin | WiFiTux: sure, that makes sense. I just want to try to get nvidia working right away though. If it doesn't work, I'll switch to vesa |
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| 00:46.18 | WiFiTux | greycoin: sure. Is easy. |
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| 00:46.39 | narg | Is there a way to make fstab assosiate multiple names with 1 device, aka having a cdrom drive be able to be mount and umounted interchangably between /cdrom and /media/cdrom1? |
| 00:46.58 | narg | hard links? |
| 00:47.12 | ma3x | Gnea : modprobe ntfs does *not* enable me to write to NTFS |
| 00:47.19 | Phated | No shit. |
| 00:47.27 | Phated | !ntfs |
| 00:47.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 00:47.42 | Phated | Hmmm. Might be ntfsro. |
| 00:47.47 | deadcat | someone PLEASE show this guy how to enable ntfs writable so he can fuck himself up.. |
| 00:48.06 | FieldySnuts | nobody should be shown that. |
| 00:48.10 | ma3x | whats that ntfsro |
| 00:48.20 | deadcat | FieldySnuts: please show him.. |
| 00:49.00 | FieldySnuts | ma3x: ntfs writing in linux is *extremely* dangerous, do not enable it under any circumstances. not with captive ntfs, nothing. I don't care what anybody tells you .ntfs cannot be written to safely in linux, the reason is because MS won't open up the spect, therefore, linux developers cannot write safe drivers. stay away from this. |
| 00:49.04 | NewpZ | WiFiTux: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_8100 |
| 00:49.06 | WiFiTux | ma3x: check if you have the option in the kernel |
| 00:49.23 | deadcat | i want to see that guy get fucked!!!!! |
| 00:49.26 | FieldySnuts | however if you wanna go that route, have full backups, and certainly don't ever come to us about it |
| 00:49.33 | FieldySnuts | !fuck that guy |
| 00:49.35 | NewpZ | WiFiTux: but i see nothing about pritning to the other tray or even what software to use to put 2 5x7's on one seet |
| 00:49.38 | PerfDave | The easiest way to do NTFS writing is to use ndiswrapper, I suspect. |
| 00:49.54 | bob2 | captive-ntfs, you mean |
| 00:49.57 | greycoin | PerfDave: one-liner didn't work. I guess I'm gonna have to switch kernels and try whatever Wyzard had suggested. I'll work on updating my kernel eventually. |
| 00:50.01 | rbochan | deadcat: this is the guy who let "some guy upgrade his machine to unstable" already |
| 00:50.08 | deadcat | cant he just rw in fstab? |
| 00:50.19 | FieldySnuts | deadcat: no. the ntfs driver is not even capable of writing. for good reason. |
| 00:50.20 | deadcat | rbochan: so lets fuck him up (= |
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| 00:50.26 | rbochan | he already has been |
| 00:50.31 | PerfDave | greycoin: What do you mean, "didn't work"? |
| 00:50.41 | FieldySnuts | i still don't know why we're helping, he had somebody goof his system up, THAT PERSON needs to be supporting him not us |
| 00:50.44 | deadcat | rbochan: i want to see him cry like a little bitch |
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| 00:50.48 | FieldySnuts | been watching this shit for hours |
| 00:51.02 | PerfDave | FieldySnuts: He's reinstalled now, allegedly. |
| 00:51.02 | rbochan | FieldySnuts: he's re-done the machine with stable |
| 00:51.15 | FieldySnuts | ah. i take away some of the pissed-offness then |
| 00:51.20 | cheesycow5 | hey dudes, i just found out typing "/quit [person]" makes that person quit |
| 00:51.22 | rbochan | not that that means he's yet gained a clue |
| 00:51.37 | FieldySnuts | cheesycow5: you think? |
| 00:51.40 | rbochan | cheesycow5 : my cat Mittens likes milk |
| 00:51.42 | WiFiTux | NewpZ: is supports it, You will need to google more in order to learn how to use the other bay. Or it might not matter |
| 00:51.43 | FieldySnuts | wow you got somebody |
| 00:51.48 | FieldySnuts | someone add that as a qotd please |
| 00:51.50 | WiFiTux | PerfDave: me me |
| 00:51.55 | cheesycow5 | wow |
| 00:52.08 | greycoin | PerfDave: looks like everything was installed ok but it seems to not have made any difference |
| 00:52.13 | FieldySnuts | cheesycow5: careful on freenode with that, people can be and have been killed or banned from the network for tricking people |
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| 00:52.34 | cheesycow5 | ouch, i thought i could just get banned from here |
| 00:52.42 | cheesycow5 | and i wouldnt mind that |
| 00:52.58 | FieldySnuts | how do you add a qotd anyway |
| 00:53.02 | FieldySnuts | that was good |
| 00:53.07 | greycoin | PerfDave: anyway, GRUB does show up a kernel-picking screen, so I still have 2.6 to work on at some point |
| 00:53.08 | NewpZ | WiFiTux, im more interested in getting a program like gimp to let me print my photos on the sheet the way i want, like 20 wallets, 1 8x10, 2 5x7 etc... im cant belive that gimp cant do it |
| 00:53.13 | RichiH | FieldySnuts: we wouldn't kline for that, i think |
| 00:53.21 | narg | JOKE incoming --> Anyone here about the 18 victims of recent internet fraud? :p |
| 00:53.24 | RichiH | but cheesycow5 would get a bit of talking too, yes ;) |
| 00:53.43 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: hehe i've seen it happen though it wasi n the past, and over much more severe stuff like rm -rf / (dont' do that) |
| 00:53.55 | WiFiTux | NewpZ: it should. Then you don't have it installed fine. Can you print somewhere else? openoffice or any other file? |
| 00:54.13 | rbochan | FieldySnuts: in the old warez days it was "For my ftp info, hit ALT+F4" |
| 00:54.14 | greycoin | PerfDave: maybe I should start-up X with vesa and then work on the nvidia configuration from there |
| 00:54.16 | RichiH | FieldySnuts: rm -rf / would earn you a kline faster than you can type 'a', yes |
| 00:54.20 | FieldySnuts | rbochan: yeah i know heh |
| 00:54.24 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: good |
| 00:54.34 | FieldySnuts | another lame one is /disco prettylights (don't do that) |
| 00:54.52 | RichiH | heh |
| 00:54.54 | cheesycow5 | well people arent as stupid as the old days |
| 00:54.57 | RichiH | i didn't know that one |
| 00:54.59 | NewpZ | WiFiTux, i can print from the program.. just dont know how to print photos like that... can it be it done or is there a howto? |
| 00:55.00 | FieldySnuts | i got nailed by that one, i'll admit, i'm a jackass |
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| 00:55.02 | cheesycow5 | i just wanted to relive it |
| 00:55.05 | K_Dallas | lft |
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| 00:55.07 | K_Dallas | left |
| 00:55.08 | s0n1 | hi |
| 00:55.09 | K_Dallas | right |
| 00:55.11 | K_Dallas | oops |
| 00:55.15 | FieldySnuts | i thought I had typed it with a space but nooo.. heh. |
| 00:55.18 | s0n1 | i compile kernel using make-kpkg ... |
| 00:55.19 | FieldySnuts | gave some people a very good laugh |
| 00:55.21 | cheesycow5 | what would /disco do |
| 00:55.26 | s0n1 | but don;t create initrd |
| 00:55.32 | FieldySnuts | short for /disconnect :D |
| 00:55.35 | RichiH | cheesycow5: it would expand to /disconnect |
| 00:55.37 | s0n1 | and reboot machine kernel panic |
| 00:55.50 | cheesycow5 | ah |
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| 00:56.05 | cheesycow5 | too bad im on windows 98 |
| 00:56.05 | s0n1 | who i create kernel image? initrd.. |
| 00:56.06 | s0n1 | ? |
| 00:56.07 | Guerin | if you want to kick someone, type /quit nickofthepersonyouwanttokick |
| 00:56.09 | cheesycow5 | *gets prepared for beating* |
| 00:56.16 | Guerin | so like /quit FieldySnuts |
| 00:56.22 | FieldySnuts | someone already did that |
| 00:56.27 | Guerin | oh :( |
| 00:56.29 | cheesycow5 | haha |
| 00:56.31 | FieldySnuts | scroll up heh |
| 00:56.36 | FieldySnuts | i want to add it as qotd but i don't know how |
| 00:56.43 | cheesycow5 | its already there |
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| 00:56.55 | cheesycow5 | thats where i got it from |
| 00:57.12 | Guerin | it's on bash.org about 100 times |
| 00:57.16 | Phated | FieldySnuts: It's on bash. |
| 00:57.23 | cheesycow5 | http://bash.org/?362137 |
| 00:57.26 | FieldySnuts | not with MY nick :~*( |
| 00:57.35 | Phated | Heh. |
| 00:57.49 | cheesycow5 | lol |
| 00:57.50 | FieldySnuts | !date Phated |
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| 00:57.57 | Phated | Aye. |
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| 00:59.24 | shimano55 | Question, Does anyone know a way to get XMMS to list music in the order the songs are on the cd? Or a program that does? |
| 00:59.44 | ozzloy | how do i use ntpdate to set the hardware clock? |
| 00:59.52 | Osiris | hey again peeps... today i'm trying to install a os-x like dock app ( superkaramba ), it requires "KDE headers", which i think are in kdelibs4..which has a bunch of dependencies that i don't know how to resolve with apt-get. |
| 01:00.08 | PerfDave | shimano55: The easiest way is just to rip your tracks as "${TRACKNUM} - ${TITLE}" in abcde or whatever |
| 01:00.10 | Guerin | !wayc |
| 01:00.15 | Guerin | !wayc Osiris |
| 01:00.17 | dpkg | Osiris: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 01:00.23 | lucasjb | shimano55, that track number should be part of the id3 tag on the mp3 file, you can also make it part of the file name |
| 01:00.36 | Osiris | cause i'm lazy |
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| 01:00.42 | deadcat | stop peeping moron |
| 01:00.48 | FieldySnuts | lazy but compiling.. righto. |
| 01:00.57 | Guerin | Osiris: if you were lazy, you'd use apt-get |
| 01:01.08 | Osiris | ...i want to |
| 01:01.09 | deadcat | Guerin: because hes a moron |
| 01:01.09 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: hire Guerin |
| 01:01.12 | PerfDave | Now, where did I put my wallet? |
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| 01:01.15 | FieldySnuts | hah!! |
| 01:01.22 | FieldySnuts | unbelievable |
| 01:01.23 | Osiris | how can i have apt get resolve dependencies? |
| 01:01.40 | deadcat | Osiris: you use your compiling skill to figure that one |
| 01:01.41 | PerfDave | Osiris: Which version of Debian are you running? |
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| 01:01.46 | bob2 | Osiris: superkaramba is in debian... |
| 01:01.48 | Wyzard | Osiris: Automatic dependency resolution only works for packages |
| 01:02.05 | Wyzard | Osiris: And compiling stuff from source is a bad idea unless you know what you're doing and there's no package available |
| 01:02.12 | Osiris | PerfDave: Sarge |
| 01:02.20 | Wyzard | Osiris: It's a good way to subtly break things on your system |
| 01:02.37 | Wyzard | Osiris: apt-get install superkaramba |
| 01:02.43 | Osiris | i'd like to thiink what i know what i'm doing |
| 01:02.56 | Guerin | you don't |
| 01:02.56 | Osiris | o nice. doh. |
| 01:02.58 | ozzloy | does anyone know a ntp server for southern california? |
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| 01:03.08 | Guerin | ozzloy: pool.ntp.org |
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| 01:03.11 | deadcat | ozzloy: no |
| 01:03.13 | FieldySnuts | ozzloy: it's not needed to have one close at all. use the host pool.ntp.org |
| 01:03.16 | sun_ | deadcat/quit |
| 01:03.22 | FieldySnuts | which points at a massive pool of good ntp servers |
| 01:03.23 | gentoothreefour | does anyone know why for some reason when bootsplash is change from silent to verbose there is no splash image on the background? i have splashutils installed latest version and i am having problems making the spash image display when it is in verbose |
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| 01:03.41 | deadcat | sun_: ? |
| 01:03.50 | Wyzard | Osiris: If you don't know where to get headers from, you don't "know what you're doing" in this regard |
| 01:03.51 | sun_ | deadcat sorry kbd problem |
| 01:04.04 | Osiris | it says there is no installation candidate |
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| 01:04.16 | deadcat | Osiris: upgrade to testing |
| 01:04.16 | Osiris | how do i make it search broader? |
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| 01:04.34 | Osiris | how do i make it search testing? |
| 01:04.48 | deadcat | Osiris: you add testing to your sources.list |
| 01:04.48 | zOap | Osiris, -t testing |
| 01:05.02 | Osiris | ok ty |
| 01:05.03 | Wyzard | Osiris: ah, there's no superkaramba package in stable |
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| 01:05.09 | sun_ | hi i think exim is trying to resolve my laptops domain name during bootup, even when there's no ethernet. i dont really use exim for anything except messages from dpkg and cron (very rarely), how can i stop exim from hanging when theres no ethernet connection? |
| 01:05.24 | Wyzard | Osiris: In /etc/apt/apt.conf, put the line: APT::Default-Release "stable"; |
| 01:05.26 | ozzloy | i did ntpdate pool.ntp.org and it gave: 7 Jan 08:03:47 ntpdate[5040]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting, huh? |
| 01:05.27 | deadcat | sun_: man update-rc.d |
| 01:05.33 | Wyzard | Osiris: Then add a testing line to your sources.list, and apt-get update |
| 01:05.38 | FieldySnuts | ozzloy: killall ntpd |
| 01:05.38 | bob2 | sun_: set your hostname to something in /etc/hosts |
| 01:05.45 | Osiris | anyone have any tips on me to make my li?nux more OS-X like? |
| 01:05.48 | sun_ | deadcat i dont want to deactivate exim totally |
| 01:05.52 | bob2 | Osiris: ntpd or something is running then... |
| 01:05.58 | deadcat | Osiris: buy a mac |
| 01:06.04 | Wyzard | Osiris: Then you can install stuff from testing if they aren't available in stable, but the stable versions will still be used where available |
| 01:06.33 | ozzloy | FieldySnuts, will try. then do ntpdate pool.ntp.org? |
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| 01:06.38 | zOap | Osiris, download some gtk themes and #%& why would you? If you have linux, you have linux, if you want a mac, go buy a mac |
| 01:06.41 | Osiris | i just duplicate the line and make it say testing instead of stable? |
| 01:06.47 | FieldySnuts | ozzloy: yeah. |
| 01:06.55 | Osiris | i like synaptic, how can i make it so i can just double click on a deb file and its installed? |
| 01:07.04 | zOap | omg |
| 01:07.07 | deadcat | zOap: he wants to make his thing ugly because he cant afford a mac (= |
| 01:07.08 | Wyzard | Osiris: yep |
| 01:07.09 | ozzloy | FieldySnuts, does that change the hardware clock too? |
| 01:07.15 | FieldySnuts | no idea |
| 01:07.20 | Osiris | i want a poor man's mac |
| 01:07.24 | K_Dallas | Osiris, why do you need synaptic to install deb packages? |
| 01:07.24 | Wyzard | Osiris: Actually, check apt-get.org first -- someone might have made a backport for stable, which would be preferable |
| 01:07.25 | bob2 | gentoothreefour: you seem to be in the wrong channel |
| 01:07.26 | Osiris | nothing wrong with that |
| 01:07.33 | zOap | deadcat, lol, well, good luck I say, now get the tweet out f here |
| 01:07.37 | deadcat | Osiris: no that would be a wanna be mac theme its not a mac |
| 01:07.41 | ozzloy | or just the time for debian? |
| 01:08.02 | Wyzard | Osiris: There's a lot more to OSX than the Aqua GUI layer... are you just trying to clone the Aqua look? |
| 01:08.08 | Osiris | it is if its running on a darwin os |
| 01:08.13 | Wyzard | Osiris: Since you seem to be a KDE user, you might be interested in the Baghira theme |
| 01:08.22 | ozzloy | thanx FieldySnuts, Guerin, deadcat. |
| 01:08.23 | Osiris | ...sort of ... |
| 01:08.25 | deadcat | Osiris: your best bet is pay for it |
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| 01:08.36 | jim__ | I am trying to set up sendmail, but get "550-Verification failed" when I send an email. What does this mean? |
| 01:08.48 | Osiris | damnit fuck that |
| 01:08.49 | deadcat | Osiris: and you seem like a mac user than a linux user |
| 01:08.49 | Wyzard | jim__: Sendmail, ugh :-) |
| 01:09.05 | Osiris | i hated mac pre OS -X ..but damn X is nice |
| 01:09.10 | sun_ | hi anyone know why exim timeouts during bootup when there's no ethernet? i thought it was looking up the fqdn but apparently its not? |
| 01:09.17 | deadcat | Osiris: then buy one and stop bitching |
| 01:09.28 | Osiris | lmao there's nothing wrong with themeing this bitch |
| 01:09.30 | jim__ | should I switch to another mail program? |
| 01:09.37 | Wyzard | sun_: Every time I've seen it do that, it's because /etc/hosts didn't have a mapping from the system hostname to 127.0.0.1 |
| 01:09.38 | FieldySnuts | !slap Osiris |
| 01:09.43 | Osiris | its an expression of who i am |
| 01:09.45 | zOap | Hi, I want my linux box to appear like a redmond dumb machine, what do I do? Yank out all of my cables and jump on the cpu? |
| 01:09.46 | Osiris | oucH |
| 01:09.47 | Wyzard | jim__: Exim is the default in Debian |
| 01:09.55 | rbochan | zOap: xpde |
| 01:09.57 | Osiris | :( |
| 01:09.57 | rbochan | :p |
| 01:10.00 | jim__ | perhaps I should try exim instead. |
| 01:10.05 | deadcat | zOap: yes |
| 01:10.10 | FieldySnuts | jim__: yes. |
| 01:10.11 | Wyzard | Osiris: Just take a look at Baghira -- the word is Indian for "tiger", and it's a KDE theme meant to look like OSX |
| 01:10.21 | zOap | :) |
| 01:10.24 | Osiris | nice |
| 01:10.36 | Osiris | i just need the dock i have the bars on top right |
| 01:10.41 | abrotman | and it's a character in the Jungle book! |
| 01:10.48 | Osiris | i wonder if there's a desktop widget thing other than the gnome one i could use |
| 01:10.53 | sun_ | wyzard according to hostname -v --fqdn my hostname is localhost.localdomain which is in /etc/hosts as 127.0.0.1, is this how to check what exim thinks the fqdn is? |
| 01:11.00 | Wyzard | abrotman: That was the tiger's name? |
| 01:11.02 | zOap | abrotman, isnt that "baghera"? |
| 01:11.11 | FieldySnuts | badger? |
| 01:11.18 | Osiris | badger is yummy :) |
| 01:11.18 | jim__ | I will go install exim and remove sendmail |
| 01:11.19 | abrotman | bagheera |
| 01:11.23 | jim__ | thanks for the advice |
| 01:11.23 | zOap | aah |
| 01:11.34 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start an mta war |
| 01:11.34 | dpkg | exim is a spam magnet |
| 01:11.35 | abrotman | Wyzard: yes |
| 01:11.37 | FieldySnuts | l... |
| 01:11.44 | abrotman | zOap: oyu mean the movie or the book ? |
| 01:11.45 | Wyzard | sun_: Seems right to me, but I could be wrong... I just know that adding the hostname to the hosts file has been the fix for me in the past |
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| 01:11.48 | FieldySnuts | haha as if what mta you use means you get more or less spam |
| 01:11.56 | zOap | abrotman, all, lol |
| 01:12.02 | sun_ | wyzard ok thanks |
| 01:12.27 | Gnea | FieldySnuts: actually... |
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| 01:12.37 | FieldySnuts | Gnea: yeha yeah i know no need to get techie on me |
| 01:12.46 | Gnea | :) |
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| 01:13.11 | abrotman | bouncy bouncy! |
| 01:13.14 | RichiH | FieldySnuts: i /cycle to catch spambots |
| 01:13.18 | FieldySnuts | i know |
| 01:13.24 | zOap | That one was subtle Gnea, you could just jump all over him, but you didn't. And he got the point:) how nice it is to be in here tonight:) |
| 01:13.26 | FieldySnuts | wenas who uses exim U FUX0RS |
| 01:13.33 | RichiH | if you see people quit after i cycle, that's me ;) |
| 01:13.42 | Gnea | zOap: he's used to my banter ;) |
| 01:13.47 | zOap | lol |
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| 01:14.22 | abrotman | RichiH: you mean you're a spam bot ? |
| 01:14.33 | RichiH | abrotman: almost, yes |
| 01:14.43 | s0n1 | i compile kernel perfect,... but in start kernel panic unknown-block(0/0) |
| 01:14.50 | s0n1 | i have debian sarge |
| 01:14.53 | s0n1 | grub |
| 01:14.59 | deadcat | s0n1: that dont sound perfect |
| 01:14.59 | Gnea | s0n1: which kernel? |
| 01:15.05 | Gnea | heh |
| 01:15.16 | s0n1 | 2.6.12.2 |
| 01:15.17 | FieldySnuts | apt; start an mta war |
| 01:15.18 | apt | sendmail has an evil license |
| 01:15.21 | s0n1 | make-kpkg |
| 01:15.23 | FieldySnuts | heh. nice. okay g'nite |
| 01:15.27 | s0n1 | create .deb |
| 01:15.30 | Wyzard | s0n1: Sounds like the kernel's root device is set wrong, but when you compile a kernel I'm pretty sure the root device is whatever the current root filesystem is |
| 01:15.34 | WireDDD | kernal panic < perfect |
| 01:15.37 | s0n1 | dpkg -i ... |
| 01:15.43 | s0n1 | update-grub |
| 01:15.44 | FieldySnuts | ow! |
| 01:15.48 | ozzloy | actually, my hardware clock still says it's january 7th 1980, even after doing ntpdate ntp.pool.org, how to i set the hw clock to the right time? |
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| 01:15.53 | s0n1 | but don't create initrd.img |
| 01:15.56 | Wyzard | s0n1: See if putting a correct "root=" option in your boot options works |
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| 01:16.02 | abrotman | dpkg: you're a sick one |
| 01:16.15 | rbochan | indeed |
| 01:16.18 | s0n1 | root=/dev/hda2 |
| 01:16.20 | Wyzard | s0n1: Oh, that's why... you probably just don't have the necessary drivers in your kernel |
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| 01:16.37 | Wyzard | s0n1: Did you intend to build an initrd kernel? |
| 01:16.45 | Gnea | abrotman: brings new definition to an 'impacted tooth' |
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| 01:16.55 | FieldySnuts | .... |
| 01:16.56 | s0n1 | because default kernel have 2.6.8-2 |
| 01:16.56 | abrotman | ew |
| 01:17.01 | abrotman | Gnea: you're a sick one |
| 01:17.02 | Wyzard | ozzloy: ntpd -g -q |
| 01:17.02 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:17.07 | Gnea | :) |
| 01:17.18 | Wyzard | ozzloy: If the clock is wildly wrong, ntpd will assume something strange is going on and refuse to adjust it |
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| 01:17.22 | ma3x | hi |
| 01:17.23 | deadcat | s0n1: packages.debian.org |
| 01:17.27 | Gnea | it's all those friday the 13th films i watched when i was a kid |
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| 01:17.34 | ma3x | what do i put in .xinitrc for KDE? |
| 01:17.35 | Wyzard | ozzloy: That command will do a one-shot fix-the-clock-no-matter-how-wrong-it-is... then you can run the daemon as normal |
| 01:17.38 | abrotman | Gnea: no nightmare on elm street ? |
| 01:17.42 | Gnea | i blame the television |
| 01:17.45 | s0n1 | deadcat : yep.. and? |
| 01:17.46 | deadcat | ma3x: startkde |
| 01:17.49 | abrotman | Gnea: big bird ? |
| 01:17.49 | s0n1 | download new kernel? |
| 01:17.52 | Gnea | abrotman: freddy was a fucking poser |
| 01:17.52 | deadcat | s0n1: find a new one |
| 01:18.05 | Wyzard | s0n1: You know, the security team backports fixes to stable's 2.6.8-2... if you compile a custom kernel, you lose the benefit of that |
| 01:18.07 | drac | Gnea: krueger? |
| 01:18.12 | Gnea | abrotman: sesame street ruled |
| 01:18.14 | abrotman | Gnea: oh come on .. give me one good line Jason used! |
| 01:18.18 | Gnea | drac: duh |
| 01:18.24 | kvn | Jason didn't speak |
| 01:18.27 | abrotman | !win me |
| 01:18.28 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a one way ticket to Charlotte, North Carolina ... YeeHaw!! |
| 01:18.29 | Gnea | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:18.29 | ozzloy | Wyzard, thanx! |
| 01:18.34 | Gnea | there ya go |
| 01:18.35 | Gnea | :) |
| 01:18.38 | Wyzard | s0n1: Did you intend to compile an initrd kernel? And if so, and if you're using kernel.org sources rather than a Debian kernel-source package, did you apply the necessary cramfs patch? |
| 01:18.39 | s0n1 | Wyzard : where is .config of kernel 2.6.8-2 ? |
| 01:18.50 | drac | s0n1: in /boot |
| 01:18.50 | abrotman | !cheesesmite Gnea |
| 01:18.51 | ma3x | thanks deadcat |
| 01:18.52 | deadcat | s0n1: /boot/config-`uname -r` |
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| 01:18.56 | Wyzard | s0n1: Should be in /boot, when the 2.6.8-2 package is installed |
| 01:18.57 | ozzloy | irc is the keeper of all knowledge |
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| 01:19.05 | Gnea | abrotman: hehe |
| 01:19.14 | Wyzard | s0n1: Don't compile a new kernel just to have a bigger number in your `uname -r` |
| 01:19.26 | Wyzard | s0n1: Unless you have an actual need for it, stick with 2.6.8-2 |
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| 01:19.36 | s0n1 | all right |
| 01:19.40 | s0n1 | Wyzard : tanks man; |
| 01:19.41 | deadcat | Wyzard: he wants the latest maybe |
| 01:19.49 | drac | omgwtflol 2.6.13-rc3 has inotify!#% everyone to compile. |
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| 01:20.09 | Wyzard | deadcat: That's fine, but he shouldn't sacrifice sarge's security-maintained kernel without a good reason |
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| 01:21.21 | zOap | I need an app which syncs local time with a time server...? |
| 01:21.30 | Wyzard | zOap: ntpd |
| 01:21.32 | asg | zOap: ntp is your friend |
| 01:21.33 | Oldak | Is 2.6.8 latest stable? |
| 01:21.37 | zOap | Wyzard, thanks:) |
| 01:21.39 | asg | Oldak: yes |
| 01:21.43 | zOap | asg, you too |
| 01:21.47 | FabParma | i cant use this adsl adaptor (Integrated Telecom Express RoadRunner 10 ADSL Adapter PCI ) have u idea how to make it wor on debian? |
| 01:21.47 | deadcat | Oldak: thats the last for stable |
| 01:21.48 | asg | zOap: you're welcome |
| 01:21.50 | Wyzard | Oldak: 2.6.8-2 is the kernel in sarge, the current stable release |
| 01:22.03 | Oldak | Yes - I have 2.6.8 |
| 01:22.05 | Wyzard | Oldak: It's maintained by the security team with security fixes backported from newer kernel versions |
| 01:22.15 | WireDDD | is there a channel somewhere specifically for xf86 help? |
| 01:22.22 | asg | WireDDD: #xfree86 |
| 01:22.27 | Oldak | "Security team" makes them sound like they're dressed in black with guns |
| 01:22.32 | Wyzard | hehe |
| 01:22.37 | Wyzard | Oldak: They might be... you never know |
| 01:22.43 | Oldak | Heh |
| 01:22.49 | jim__ | Can bugzilla be used with exim, or does it need sendmail? |
| 01:23.06 | asg | jim__: exim provides a sendmail compatible injector |
| 01:23.09 | Oldak | I've posted an apt-get problem, if someone could look it over and suggest something for me: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=344461 |
| 01:23.09 | drac | WireDDD: #xfree86 is pretty dead.. but then again, so is whole XFree86. |
| 01:23.13 | PerfDave | jim__: All MTAs provide a binary called "sendmail" for compatiability. |
| 01:23.23 | chealer | Oldak: actually, he's dressed in black :) |
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| 01:23.28 | jim__ | got it, thanks |
| 01:23.34 | WireDDD | drac yeah aparently |
| 01:24.22 | Wyzard | Oldak: Take one of the packages that is "not going to be installed", and apt-get install it, and apt will tell you why it can't |
| 01:24.55 | Wyzard | Oldak: Or just use menuconfig :-) |
| 01:25.18 | Oldak | Not really used menuconfig before |
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| 01:25.49 | Gnea | menuconfig is much more portable |
| 01:25.49 | Wyzard | Oldak: If you can use the arrow keys (to move up and down) and the Tab key (to move between buttons), you can use menuconfig |
| 01:25.53 | stew | i can get around menuconfig faster than the other options |
| 01:25.54 | RichiH | menuconfig >>>> xconfig |
| 01:25.59 | Wyzard | Oldak: and its only dependency is libncurses5-dev |
| 01:26.07 | asg | !compile kde stuff |
| 01:26.08 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.net/?KdeDebBuild |
| 01:26.26 | saboteur | anyone got a machine with Adaptec 7xxx HostRAID in it? :) |
| 01:26.36 | abrotman | !beer RichiH |
| 01:26.38 | Oldak | xconfig is exactly what I am trying to sort out as it is ;) |
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| 01:26.50 | asg | Oldak: xlibs-dev |
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| 01:26.58 | Wyzard | Oldak: Well, my point is, menuconfig will be easier to get working than xconfig |
| 01:27.22 | Wyzard | Oldak: And it's useful to know how to use anyway, since it can be used on systems that don't have X (or where X isn't working) |
| 01:27.26 | Oldak | asg: Same problem, sadly |
| 01:27.54 | RichiH | asg: ta |
| 01:27.59 | RichiH | !goatse abrotman |
| 01:28.05 | biohazrd | i have been having some issues during the boot process on my computer randomly rebooting. If it gets to where kde starts things work great and its seems stable. Sometimes it boots up fine on the first attempt. Other times it takes up to 15 boots to get it all the way up. I tested the memory with memtest overnight and now errors. Any ideas what to look at next? |
| 01:28.10 | RichiH | hmpf :p |
| 01:28.11 | asg | Oldak: well, menuconfig works |
| 01:28.15 | asg | RichiH: :) |
| 01:28.17 | stew | Oldak: what exactly is the problem |
| 01:28.29 | jetx | x&gconfig < menuconfig |
| 01:28.33 | Wyzard | biohazrd: CPU overheating? memtest isn't very CPU-intensive afaik, so it might not expose that sort of problem |
| 01:28.51 | biohazrd | Wyzard, no, checked in bios only about 58 deg |
| 01:29.05 | biohazrd | bios set to warn at 80 with alarm |
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| 01:29.12 | Wyzard | biohazrd: Does it consistently reboot at the same point in the boot process, or different places each time |
| 01:29.13 | biohazrd | dual cpu btw |
| 01:29.13 | Oldak | stew: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=344461 |
| 01:29.23 | biohazrd | different places all the time |
| 01:29.37 | biohazrd | tried another kernel version same results |
| 01:29.39 | Wyzard | Then it's more likely a hardware thing than software |
| 01:29.44 | biohazrd | my guess too |
| 01:29.44 | mtnman | biohazrd: how old is the motherboard? |
| 01:29.48 | biohazrd | 2 years |
| 01:29.55 | stew | Oldak: what version of debian? |
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| 01:30.00 | Oldak | Testing |
| 01:30.01 | biohazrd | nice server board, should hold up longer |
| 01:30.03 | stew | Oldak: did you recently upgrade? |
| 01:30.08 | landslide | anyone know why viewcvs's templates are screwed in debian? |
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| 01:30.17 | Wyzard | Try another OS, like Knoppix or Windows, and see if that has problems too |
| 01:30.18 | landslide | is there a place where i can get improved ones? |
| 01:30.19 | mtnman | biohazrd: i had a similar problem, it turned out to be leaking capacitors. |
| 01:30.21 | biohazrd | strange that it works fine if it gets through the boot |
| 01:30.21 | Oldak | Yesterday - but I think it is to do with some problems I had with X earlier |
| 01:30.24 | deadcat | mtnman: you guys know the tshirt for LWE yet? |
| 01:30.37 | stew | Oldak: have you tried apt-get install <list of dependencies> ? or apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 01:30.39 | asg | Oldak: parts of xorg might be going into testing as we speak, causing the issue. |
| 01:30.43 | Oldak | Is there anyway to purge apt-get to make sure it "knows" what I have installed |
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| 01:30.47 | Oldak | Yeah, both |
| 01:30.50 | abrotman | !info xterm etch |
| 01:30.56 | dpkg | xterm: (X terminal emulator), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 (etch), Packaged size: 496 kB, Installed size: 1152 kB |
| 01:30.59 | mtnman | deadcat: last i heard shaleh was unearthing a box of shirts from a few years ago. |
| 01:31.03 | Wyzard | Oldak: That question doesn't make sense |
| 01:31.10 | deadcat | mtnman: damn that suck |
| 01:31.11 | stew | asg: yikes, are ther getting into testing already? |
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| 01:31.20 | biohazrd | mtnman, why would it work fine after booting tho? |
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| 01:31.26 | asg | stew: it is supposed to be a week or so but you never know |
| 01:31.26 | stew | Oldak: apt-get already knows what you have installed |
| 01:31.27 | mtnman | deadcat: if you'd like to design and arrange for printing... |
| 01:31.29 | deadcat | mtnman: maybe sell them at a cheaper price (= |
| 01:31.31 | ma3x | where can i read info on setting up the sound card? |
| 01:31.37 | Wyzard | Oldak: Have you tried apt-get install on one of the "not going to be installed" packages? |
| 01:31.44 | stew | asg: xserver-xorg has rc bugs |
| 01:31.52 | deadcat | mtnman: not a designer |
| 01:31.53 | ma3x | it does not apear under http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 01:31.56 | maher | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.57 | asg | stew: ah, okay |
| 01:31.58 | mtnman | biohazrd: actually, i have no idea. but i think you are correct that it is a hardware thing. |
| 01:32.03 | Oldak | Yeah - it either does the same with its dependencies or says it is a "virtual package" - when I do one of the individual files it does the same |
| 01:32.03 | Wyzard | stew: That wouldn't block the client libraries |
| 01:32.07 | Oldak | maher: Yes. |
| 01:32.13 | konki | x.org?? any comments on this |
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| 01:32.28 | stew | konki: /topic |
| 01:32.36 | maher | Oldak: testing is undergoing both a gcc and xorg transtition at the same time - stuff is probably broken |
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| 01:32.42 | abrotman | yeah .. i can comment |
| 01:32.43 | biohazrd | Wyzard: does it happening at different points in the boot process lead you to any conclusions? |
| 01:32.59 | konki | thnks stew |
| 01:33.00 | biohazrd | I was hoping HDD, that would be a semi cheap and easy fix |
| 01:33.09 | Oldak | Ah, OK - when is the transition going to be over? |
| 01:33.15 | Wyzard | biohazrd: Only that it's probably a hardware problem, and that you should try other OSes to confirm |
| 01:33.17 | ma3x | how can i setup Sound/ |
| 01:33.25 | asg | Oldak: it may not be happening, that was just a theory |
| 01:33.26 | pablum | biohazrd, does it happen with a non-smp kernel? |
| 01:33.40 | dvs | ma3x: Which kernel? |
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| 01:33.48 | biohazrd | pablum, good question, i only have smp compiled |
| 01:34.00 | Wyzard | Oldak: In the case of the GCC transition, it won't be completely "done" until every C++ package in Debian has been recompiled by its respective maintainer |
| 01:34.03 | Desiac | need to sync data between 2 locaions, can anyone suggest anything other than rsync, thnx |
| 01:34.09 | biohazrd | are there any packages that test and put a load on each cpu? |
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| 01:34.20 | ma3x | dvs: the newest |
| 01:34.29 | Wyzard | Oldak: In the case of xorg, it shouldn't be so bad, but parts of it may be held up by the GCC change |
| 01:34.30 | maher | Desiac: what's wrong with rsync |
| 01:34.31 | mtnman | desiac: rsync is made for just what you described. |
| 01:34.36 | dvs | ma3x: The newest what? 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 01:34.45 | ma3x | 2.6 |
| 01:34.53 | dvs | ma3x: alsaconf |
| 01:34.55 | stew | Oldak: does it want to install anything when you type apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:34.57 | Gnea | Desiac: rsync rocks, why wouldn't you want it? |
| 01:34.59 | Wyzard | biohazrd: cpuburn is good at stress-testing one processor, and it might have an option to run multithreaded to test multiprocessor systems |
| 01:35.00 | Desiac | maher,mtnman: just wanted to see if any alternatives before i used rsync :) |
| 01:35.11 | Gnea | Desiac: you know rsync can use ssh right? |
| 01:35.13 | Wyzard | biohazrd: or crashme |
| 01:35.19 | biohazrd | Wyzard: how much could dust play a part in it, I cleaned it out yesterday and it was filthy |
| 01:35.27 | biohazrd | but it didn't fix it |
| 01:35.33 | Desiac | gnea: yeah |
| 01:35.34 | Oldak | stew: Nothing |
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| 01:35.43 | ma3x | dvs thanks , i'll try! |
| 01:35.47 | Oldak | It doesn't seem to want to install ANYTHING to do with libraries |
| 01:35.49 | dvs | mikey! |
| 01:35.50 | biohazrd | what i don't understand is how stable it is once it boots |
| 01:36.00 | maher | Desiac: i don't know of anything similar offhand |
| 01:36.04 | biohazrd | I was kinda thinking flaky bios or cmos |
| 01:36.04 | stew | Oldak: what happens when you try apt-get install libxrender-dev |
| 01:36.06 | Wyzard | Oldak: "apt-get install libncurses5-dev" ? |
| 01:36.19 | Gnea | Desiac: there's also unison but i've had not-so-good experience with it |
| 01:36.31 | maher | biohazrd: you could reflash the bios - but that's real kill or cure |
| 01:36.36 | Wyzard | biohazrd: As I said, try another OS. That's the best way to get a stress-test that's reasonably similar to Debian booting, but isn't actually Debian booting |
| 01:36.37 | landslide | anyone know if there are any improved viewcvs templates for debian? |
| 01:36.43 | Oldak | stew: libxrender-dev: Depends: libx11-dev but it is not going to be installed |
| 01:36.43 | landslide | debian sarge... |
| 01:36.49 | WireDDD | I am having some problems with a multi-mon setup, a nvidia gf4 agp and a s3 gx/dx, the only way in windows to get both cards to work is to init the pci s3 card first in the bios. if I init the pci card first X hangs when it tries to init when I have the agp card setup in the config, if I init the agp card first only that card/monitor/screen works. |
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| 01:37.01 | Wyzard | biohazrd: I would definitely not try flashing the BIOS on a system that's prone to spontaneous reboots |
| 01:37.01 | stew | Oldak: what does apt-cache policy libx11-dev report for installed and candidate? |
| 01:37.35 | biohazrd | I guess I can partition it and put on winblows |
| 01:37.42 | Oldak | Installed: (none) | Candidate: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 |
| 01:37.44 | elkid | is there a guide to set up devfs or udev ? |
| 01:37.53 | dvs | elkid: devfs is dead |
| 01:37.56 | maher | biohazrd: or try some live cd's and see if they have similar issues |
| 01:37.58 | Wyzard | elkid: apt-get install udev |
| 01:38.02 | Wyzard | elkid: and reboot |
| 01:38.06 | asg | elkid: there is a howto for udev at debian-administration.org. devfs is deprecated. |
| 01:38.09 | dvs | Wyzard: too hard |
| 01:38.18 | biohazrd | like knoppix? |
| 01:38.29 | stew | Oldak: ok, what does apt-get install libxll-dev say |
| 01:38.47 | maher | biohazrd: yes |
| 01:38.50 | Wyzard | biohazrd: Knoppix would be a good starting point, but being based on Debian, it's not *really* different... if the reboots happen with Knoppix too, I'd definitely try Windows |
| 01:38.57 | madclicker | is there a way to tell K3B to unpack and burn an ISO file instead of copying the file onto the CD? |
| 01:38.57 | stew | Oldak: do you ahve an /etc/apt/apt.conf? |
| 01:39.02 | Oldak | stew: libx11-dev: Depends: xlibs-static-dev but it is not going to be installed |
| 01:39.08 | maher | madclicker: yes |
| 01:39.14 | biohazrd | guess i better read up on parted.. |
| 01:39.20 | Wyzard | pablum: I haven't rebooted since before the "new" udev, and don't plan on doing so until after I have a 2.6.12 ready to come back with :-) |
| 01:39.21 | elkid | Wyzard, the debian kernel has everything for running allready udev? just need to install udev? |
| 01:39.21 | ke6isf | madclicker: Burn image, under utils, I think. |
| 01:39.22 | madclicker | maher: can you help a brother? |
| 01:39.32 | Oldak | stew: apt.conf.d |
| 01:39.44 | pablum | Wyzard, yeah I'm waiting for the all-clear... |
| 01:39.45 | madclicker | ke6isf: roger |
| 01:39.46 | Wyzard | elkid: Well, udev doesn't work at all with 2.4 kernels AFAIK, but provided you're running 2.6, yep, it should work |
| 01:39.53 | ke6isf | madclicker: Hang on, lemme verify that. |
| 01:40.02 | Oldak | stew: No "apt.conf", just with -.d |
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| 01:40.23 | Wyzard | pablum: There was a note on debian-kernel two days ago saying that 2.6.12 was ready to be uploaded, but I've been keeping an eye on incoming and haven't seen it yet |
| 01:40.23 | maher | madclicker: Tools -> Burn CD IMage |
| 01:40.33 | ma3x | how to give privilege to normal user to a partition? |
| 01:40.33 | pablum | woohoo! |
| 01:40.38 | ke6isf | madclicker: What maher said. |
| 01:40.42 | ke6isf | maher: thanks |
| 01:40.43 | elkid | Wyzard, ty |
| 01:40.45 | ke6isf | !beer maher |
| 01:40.46 | stew | Oldak: i dunno, keep following the dependencies, apt-get install xlib-static-dev |
| 01:40.57 | stew | Oldak: eventually you'll get to the root cause |
| 01:41.11 | Wyzard | pablum: The reason for the delay is that they're changing the package... the new source package is called "linux-2.6", and if I understood the email correctly, "kernel-source-*" will now be "linux-source-*" |
| 01:41.20 | stew | Oldak: you might get there quicker with aptitude |
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| 01:41.46 | stew | ma3x: man mount |
| 01:41.51 | asg | ma3x: it depends on the filesystem. man mount (search for 'user') |
| 01:41.59 | pablum | Wyzard, I'm trying to figure out if that's incredibly radical... don't have the debknowledge, yet. |
| 01:42.02 | FabParma | i cant use this adsl adaptor (Integrated Telecom Express RoadRunner 10 ADSL Adapter PCI ) have u idea how to make it wor on debian? |
| 01:42.05 | PerfDave | Wyzard: Is that for closer integration with Gnu/HURD? :) |
| 01:42.21 | Oldak | stew: OK, going back to zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.2.2-4) but 1:1.2.2-4.sarge.1 is to be installed | I apt-get install zlib1g-dev and it says it's installed |
| 01:42.21 | madclicker | maher: would that be the same as " Create image only" under "Burn"? |
| 01:42.23 | PerfDave | FabParma: Does it have any Linux support? |
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| 01:42.30 | Wyzard | PerfDave: hehe... I don't think so, but I think it's reasonable |
| 01:42.36 | abrotman | !tell FabParma about u |
| 01:42.37 | FabParma | PerfDave: no |
| 01:42.48 | dvs | madclicker: "linux-package" doesn't have the nice ring to it. |
| 01:43.08 | pablum | i gotcher linux-package right here! |
| 01:43.08 | stew | Oldak: have you run apt-get update recently? |
| 01:43.11 | ke6isf | In installing k3b (and, subsequently, cdrdao), I noted that cdrdao suggests gcdmaster; but, according to apt-get, it's not there. Where is this package? |
| 01:43.19 | madclicker | dvs:i ear you |
| 01:43.20 | Oldak | Yes |
| 01:43.21 | PerfDave | FabParma: So you're saying "This piece of hardware isn't supported by Linux, how can I make it work with Debian GNU/Linux"? |
| 01:43.27 | FabParma | Integrated Telecom Express RoadRunner 10 ADSL Adapter PCI i have this adaoter |
| 01:43.29 | maher | madclicker: i don't think so - doesn't that just make an iso file? |
| 01:43.31 | stew | Oldak: you have a securty line in sources.list? |
| 01:44.03 | Oldak | stew: deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main |
| 01:44.04 | dvs | FabParma: You could try discover but I don't think you'd get too far. |
| 01:44.20 | ma3x | hmmm what kernel is newer, 2.6.8-2 or 2.6.8-11 ? |
| 01:44.24 | stew | Oldak: change testing to sarge |
| 01:44.25 | madclicker | maher: am a deer in the headlights. All I know when I double click on a .ISO file it burns a bootble CD :) |
| 01:44.31 | stew | Oldak: then apt-get update ; then try again |
| 01:44.37 | stew | Oldak: testing doesn't get security updates |
| 01:44.46 | Oldak | Ok, BRB |
| 01:44.52 | Wyzard | ma3x: 2.6.8-11 |
| 01:44.52 | stew | Oldak: and you aren't running testing, you are running sarge == stable |
| 01:44.55 | FabParma | have you idea if there is a list of supported harware? |
| 01:45.05 | ma3x | thanks Wyzard |
| 01:45.20 | PerfDave | FabParma: There are no Roadrunner cards listed in the IPCop hardware compatiability list, which is a good sign that it's not supported by Linux. It may help if you know what chipset it uses. Try googling for the model name and "Linux" to see if you get any hits. |
| 01:45.27 | biohazrd | maher, Wyzard thanks for the advice.. I have to exit kde to umount /home to partition it |
| 01:45.29 | biohazrd | later.. |
| 01:45.36 | Wyzard | ma3x: 2.6.8-16 appears to be the current version in sarge |
| 01:45.37 | biohazrd | exit |
| 01:46.00 | maher | FabParma: it probably doesn't' work unless you can find evidence there is a linux driver for it |
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| 01:46.55 | FabParma | ill google again.thankYou |
| 01:47.10 | ma3x | Wyzard : as a package? |
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| 01:47.23 | Wyzard | ma3x: I'm looking at http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 01:48.19 | Wyzard | ma3x: The revision number at the end (-2, -11, -16, etc.) is Debian-specific, btw, so when you see one, you know that the software being referred to is a Debian package |
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| 01:48.48 | ma3x | Wyzard : ok, but <Wyzard> ma3x: 2.6.8-16 appears to be the current version in sarge |
| 01:48.50 | dvs | Major_Nuggs: That's better |
| 01:48.50 | drac | AFAIK, revision -2, version -16 |
| 01:48.55 | ShaiW | ermm... I'm having a problem installing a package |
| 01:49.00 | ma3x | it's 2.6.8-2, right? |
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| 01:49.06 | ShaiW | I've donwloaded it as an rpm, and renamed it to .deb |
| 01:49.12 | saboteur | woohoo, it's done: kernel-image-2.6.8aic7xxx_2.6.8-16_i386.deb |
| 01:49.13 | saboteur | :) |
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| 01:49.16 | ShaiW | and I don't even get a clear error message |
| 01:49.22 | Wyzard | ma3x: Oh, oops, sorry... I was mixing up that -2 with the one in the revision number :-) |
| 01:49.31 | asg | ShaiW: no, renaming a rpm to deb won't work |
| 01:49.31 | ma3x | :) |
| 01:49.32 | saboteur | shaiw: check out 'alien' |
| 01:49.34 | ma3x | np |
| 01:49.35 | pablum | hah |
| 01:49.38 | asg | !wayttd ShaiW |
| 01:49.39 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, ShaiW? |
| 01:49.59 | ShaiW | install an rpm package, I'll check out that "alien" gizmo |
| 01:50.08 | drac | ShaiW: Install what exactly ? |
| 01:50.17 | saboteur | alien is evil, though :) |
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| 01:50.25 | pablum | magic file extensions |
| 01:50.26 | ShaiW | VMware |
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| 01:50.46 | ma3x | Transmission failed: could not lock /var/mail/ma3x.lock |
| 01:50.53 | ma3x | anybody knows how to install that for kmail? |
| 01:50.53 | Pr0ph3t | is there a tutorial to make a kernel compiled like the debian (with patches and etc)? |
| 01:51.07 | Wyzard | ShaiW: If you're installing in a VMware virtual machine, VMware Tools should provide the driver you need... |
| 01:51.17 | saboteur | pr0ph3t: i just made one then, with make-kpkg |
| 01:51.24 | pablum | Pr0ph3t, /msg dpkg drxx |
| 01:51.29 | asg | ma3x: well, if a previous piece of code set that lockfile and died without cleaning up, just delete the lockfile. |
| 01:51.33 | dvs | saboteur: I think he want to download the Debian source |
| 01:51.36 | pablum | oops, kp, not drxx |
| 01:51.36 | asg | ma3x: otherwise, ask #debian-kde |
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| 01:51.47 | saboteur | ah, i thought he'd already done that |
| 01:51.50 | ShaiW | Wyzard, the problem was probably with me thinking for some reason that converting an rpm to a deb by simply renaming it will work |
| 01:51.51 | bigfish | whats the status on yast4debian? |
| 01:51.55 | abrotman | !tell Pr0ph3t about kp |
| 01:51.55 | maher | ma3x: how are you sendin mail? |
| 01:51.59 | Major_Nuggs | Anyone tell me how to correctly get the values for my monitor? I tried what hp said they were and nvidia disliked them.. heh |
| 01:52.07 | Major_Nuggs | hsync and whatnot |
| 01:52.10 | dvs | Major_Nuggs: Google can |
| 01:52.12 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Oh, is the RPM what VMware provided? |
| 01:52.13 | ma3x | maher : Kmail, via sendmail |
| 01:52.26 | ma3x | asg : there is no /var/mail/ma3x.lock |
| 01:52.26 | Major_Nuggs | dvs: Tried that.. nvidia said stop no and don't.. and then shutdown X |
| 01:52.30 | ma3x | it doesn't exist |
| 01:52.41 | asg | ma3x: then there is likely a permissions issue. |
| 01:52.42 | dvs | Major_Nuggs: all you would need is the horizontal and vertical frequencies |
| 01:52.53 | ShaiW | Wyzard, yep. I guess there are deb files |
| 01:52.54 | maher | ma3x: check perms on /var/mail/ma3x |
| 01:53.00 | pablum | argh! The toes on that damn gnome wallpaper keep wriggling in my peripheral vision! |
| 01:53.01 | asg | bigfish: since yast4debian isn't in debian, you'll have to tell us |
| 01:53.09 | Major_Nuggs | dvs: Aye, and I put what HP said they were for my monitor.. and for some reason it didn't work. :/ |
| 01:53.14 | dvs | pablum: ha! |
| 01:53.20 | ma3x | -rw-rw---- 1 ma3x mail 1383 2005-07-19 03:11 /var/mail/ma3x |
| 01:53.26 | bigfish | oh just wondering if any of the debian desktop crew were here |
| 01:53.36 | bigfish | pretty interesting to see it take off |
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| 01:53.42 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Might not be -- I don't think Debian is on VMware's list of officially-supported OSes -- but I'm pretty sure the aic7xxx driver is a standard part of the kernel, so you probably don't need to install anything additional anyway |
| 01:53.49 | pablum | there, better. |
| 01:53.50 | maher | ma3x: is kmail or sendmail giving you that error? |
| 01:54.00 | dvs | Major_Nuggs: Maybe the default resolution and color depth is too much? |
| 01:54.00 | ma3x | kmail |
| 01:54.18 | Wyzard | ShaiW: In fact, I'm pretty sure the Fedora system behind me uses an aic7xxx -- I'm booting it right now to check |
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| 01:54.25 | maher | ma3x: what are your mail server settings in kmail? |
| 01:54.30 | Major_Nuggs | Nah, it's worked before.. Should have saved my xorg file before installing debian.. heh |
| 01:54.34 | ShaiW | Wyzard, I'm pretty sure k7 includes it |
| 01:54.42 | pablum | those ntfs pages ought to be enough to scare anybody... |
| 01:54.54 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Try modprobing it and see if it works? |
| 01:55.31 | jim__ | is there a tool in debian for exim configuration or do I just modify files in /etc/exim4/ |
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| 01:55.36 | z36ra | anyone know anything about programming a text connection wit a modem in c++ (newbie learning)? |
| 01:55.36 | ma3x | maher : its using sendmail |
| 01:55.42 | Wyzard | jim__: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 01:55.47 | asg | jim__: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config or eximconfig (v3) |
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| 01:55.50 | ma3x | maher : i changed the dir |
| 01:55.52 | ma3x | and it worked |
| 01:55.55 | jim__ | thanks |
| 01:55.59 | maher | jim__: but you can also edit the files by hand |
| 01:56.00 | ma3x | i just didn't have permisssion for /dev/mail/ma3x |
| 01:56.00 | ShaiW | no output |
| 01:56.06 | ma3x | anyway how do i set the permission? |
| 01:56.09 | Rockret | where I can find drivers printers to install one HP 5L LASERJET ... remote p?inter in other computer using win 98 |
| 01:56.12 | asg | ma3x: /dev/mail? |
| 01:56.20 | maher | ma3x: chmod / chown |
| 01:56.28 | Wyzard | ShaiW: If modprobe gives you your prompt back without saying anything, it means it succeeded |
| 01:56.36 | asg | Rockret: linuxprinting.org |
| 01:56.37 | Major_Nuggs | Horizontal Scan Range same as hsync? |
| 01:56.41 | pablum | er... /dev/mail? |
| 01:56.43 | ma3x | asg /var/mail |
| 01:56.47 | Rockret | thanks |
| 01:56.56 | asg | ma3x: *nod* |
| 01:57.08 | Wyzard | ShaiW: And yes, my Fedora system does indeed use an aic7xxx, so I can confirm it works in Linux |
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| 01:57.18 | Wyzard | without any special third-party drivers, that is |
| 01:57.27 | Oldak | stew: Thanks, sorted now |
| 01:57.35 | zOap | !debian-no |
| 01:57.35 | dpkg | hmm... debian-no is den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users... |
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| 01:57.41 | ShaiW | is it safe erasing the space I originally allocated for windows and adding it to my OS partition, or should I use it as a new partition? |
| 01:57.47 | maher | ShaiW: aic7xxx is in the standard debian kernels |
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| 01:58.27 | dvs | ShaiW: It depends how you are going to add the space to your OS. |
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| 01:58.49 | ShaiW | using the baseinstall partitioning tools? |
| 01:59.03 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Not if you want to keep the contents of the original Debian partition |
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| 01:59.26 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Merging two partitions means deleting them both and creating a new single one in their place |
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| 01:59.34 | sykopomp1 | hey |
| 01:59.45 | pablum | s/merge/grow/ |
| 02:00.02 | Wyzard | Does D-I support filesystem resizing like that? |
| 02:00.03 | ShaiW | that was the question... Well, I guess I could find an application for merging partitions without deleting them, and I guess it would'nt be a smart thing to do |
| 02:00.22 | maher | ShaiW: parted / qtparted |
| 02:00.45 | sykopomp1 | Problem... my sound's being choppy, I'm on Sarge. I'm farily sure there's some kind of issue with artsd. I have installed the alsa packages as well. I don't know what kind of info I should give, I just know my sound's unstable, volume bounces around and it just generally suckse |
| 02:00.52 | pablum | Wyzard, I think you can do that with parted. Not sure if you can on the... root end of the partition though. |
| 02:00.59 | Wyzard | ShaiW: If your Debian and Windows partitions are both primary partitions, and the Debian partition is located immediately *before* the Windows partition, then it's safe to delete both and create a bigger one in their place |
| 02:01.17 | madclicker | when i am running the "net-install cd" i get the error message "could not find kernel image: /install/2.6/linux" i got the iso from the devel tree. |
| 02:01.27 | Wyzard | ShaiW: but you'll need to run a filesystem resizer later to grow the filesystem to fill the new length of the partition, else you won't be able to use the additional space |
| 02:01.37 | ShaiW | well, VMware does'nt work |
| 02:01.37 | asg | madclicker: devel tree? |
| 02:01.53 | madclicker | asg: yeap "july 13" |
| 02:01.54 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I've run Debian under VMware successfully in the past |
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| 02:02.07 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I don't remember needing any special setup... I never even installed VMware Tools |
| 02:02.11 | asg | madclicker: then use a newer version or a stable installer |
| 02:02.26 | ShaiW | Wyzard, have you run Debian under VMware or VMwar under debian? |
| 02:02.33 | madclicker | asg: thats the latest |
| 02:02.35 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Both |
| 02:02.52 | asg | madclicker: then use a stable one or wait until they fix the broken devel version |
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| 02:03.00 | ShaiW | well, I've just installed VMware and it's not working, do you mind joining #flood so I could show you an output? |
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| 02:03.12 | Wyzard | ShaiW: though the former not as recently -- nowadays I mostly use VMware for booting my Windows installation so I don't have to reboot |
| 02:03.13 | madclicker | asg: got it |
| 02:03.24 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I'm already there; paste away |
| 02:03.28 | ShaiW | Wyzard, that's exacly what I want to do |
| 02:03.41 | WiFiTux | stupid Sid, now wants to remove gnome. |
| 02:03.48 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Wait, so are you running Debian in VMware, or VMware in Debian? |
| 02:03.48 | asg | WiFiTux: /topic |
| 02:03.54 | WiFiTux | asg: i know |
| 02:03.56 | ShaiW | I'm now running Deb |
| 02:04.01 | ShaiW | and I wanna run windows in VMware |
| 02:04.17 | ShaiW | So that I won't have to reboot if I wanna use photoshop |
| 02:04.23 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Then you don't need the aic7xxx driver at all |
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| 02:04.35 | kittonian | hi all |
| 02:04.37 | Wyzard | ShaiW: (unless you actually have real aic7xxx hardware, of course) |
| 02:04.44 | kittonian | is there any way to make the route table permanent upon reboot? |
| 02:04.51 | WiFiTux | ShaiW: Use wine. frankscorner.org |
| 02:04.52 | asg | kittonian: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 02:05.03 | asg | kittonian: man 5 interfaces |
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| 02:05.10 | Wyzard | ShaiW: There's a patch you need to apply to VMware to make it work under 2.6 kernels |
| 02:05.11 | asg | kittonian: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 02:05.18 | WiFiTux | Wyzard: aic7 won't work with Vmware? |
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| 02:05.40 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I don't remember the URL offhand, but if you google for something like "linux 2.6 vmware nvidia", you'll find a guide on setting up VMware and the nVIdia driver on 2.6 kernels |
| 02:05.43 | b1ackcr0w | evening again |
| 02:05.47 | b1ackcr0w | :) |
| 02:05.50 | sykopomp1 | need help with sound |
| 02:05.56 | Wyzard | ShaiW: The nVidia advice there is outdated, but the link to the VMware patch is still relevant |
| 02:05.57 | b1ackcr0w | 2.6 worked :) |
| 02:05.59 | kittonian | asg, I know about rc.local, but I'm talking about this specific routing table that it auto-discovered. it's got some interesting entries that are too long to display to I can't just manually add them. I end up deleting all the routes and then rebooting to get it to come back properly after a reboot |
| 02:06.22 | stew | !wikifaq sykopomp1 UseSoundCard |
| 02:06.23 | dpkg | sykopomp1: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 02:06.25 | sykopomp1 | sound acting all choppy and crappy, I installed the ALSA package, but still have artsd around, wondering what I should do to make sound work properly. running Debian sarge |
| 02:06.26 | WiFiTux | b1ackcr0w: it does for all of us. |
| 02:06.31 | Wyzard | WiFiTux: VMware provides a virtual aic7xxx to the guest OS running under it, but if the OS you're running in it isn't Linux, you don't need a Linux aic7xxx driver |
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| 02:06.37 | maher | kittonian: doesn't /etc/init.d/networking restart rebuild the routing table/ |
| 02:06.39 | ShaiW | Wyzard, and will this patch fix the errors I've pasted? |
| 02:06.41 | sykopomp1 | kk |
| 02:06.51 | asg | kittonian: why not? past this odd entry that is too hard to manually add. |
| 02:06.54 | stew | sykopomp1: nm that won't be in the faq |
| 02:06.56 | asg | s/past/paste/ |
| 02:06.59 | WiFiTux | ShaiW: don't use Vmware!!! Use wine! |
| 02:07.09 | Wyzard | ShaiW: That sounds like you just haven't run vmware-setup.pl or something |
| 02:07.10 | abrotman | not the same! |
| 02:07.20 | kittonian | the odd entry is the one that makes it all work |
| 02:07.23 | asg | WiFiTux: fuck wine, just buy a box strong enough to run Windows and whatever software you need. |
| 02:07.35 | ShaiW | WiFiTux, wine does'nt work well |
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| 02:07.40 | Wyzard | ShaiW: btw, getting a single WIndows installation to boot both under VMware and "natively" is a little tricky |
| 02:07.55 | kittonian | maher: don't know, hadn't thought of that. maybe you're right |
| 02:08.13 | maher | kittonian: paste the odd line anyway |
| 02:08.20 | ShaiW | Wyzard, if I'll get it running under VMware I would'nt have any reason in the world to run it from boot, so I guess I'm fine with that |
| 02:08.27 | Wyzard | ShaiW: ok |
| 02:08.47 | ShaiW | did you, by any chance, mean vmware-CONFIG.pl? |
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| 02:08.58 | kittonian | ok, that's odd |
| 02:08.58 | asg | maher: it's magic. Apparently, if it's pasted, it will disappear and he will never get on the net again. |
| 02:08.58 | sykopomp1 | stew... I think I should try what the FAQ says actually |
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| 02:09.03 | kittonian | now that line isn't there |
| 02:09.06 | sykopomp1 | it sounds like it might help |
| 02:09.08 | kittonian | and all is still well |
| 02:09.12 | sykopomp1 | or d you think the issue's something else? |
| 02:09.17 | kittonian | this is very strange |
| 02:09.30 | ShaiW | Unable to find the database file (/etc/vmware/locations) |
| 02:09.31 | sykopomp1 | I want to run ALSA, after all, instead of artsd |
| 02:09.32 | stew | Skywind: no i dunno, if you found something that sounds good in the faq, by all means, try it |
| 02:09.34 | monteiro | when i make modprobe in my new recompiled kernel it says "modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented" , how i solve this? |
| 02:09.50 | maher | monteiro: install module-init-tools |
| 02:09.51 | asg | !qm_modules |
| 02:09.51 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES, or ask me about <bunk 2.6> |
| 02:09.53 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I'm pretty sure the "config" is lowercase, but then again, I'm running version 4.0.5 |
| 02:09.59 | ShaiW | so what, I need to get spoken patch, install it, and then reinstall vmware? |
| 02:10.01 | Skywind | stew, :) |
| 02:10.03 | ma3x | which fonts are suitable for firefox? |
| 02:10.06 | ShaiW | it is in lowecase, I was just emphasizing |
| 02:10.08 | ma3x | like what package? |
| 02:10.09 | dvs | sykopomp1: artsd is not a sound system |
| 02:10.19 | stew | monteiro: what version of debian? |
| 02:10.27 | monteiro | maher : tks :))) |
| 02:10.30 | monteiro | stew : etch |
| 02:10.31 | sykopomp1 | oh >.> |
| 02:10.33 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Oh, I said "setup" the first time, didn't I... sorry about that |
| 02:10.49 | sykopomp1 | then maybe I just need to change from OSS to ALSA |
| 02:10.51 | ShaiW | that's OK, but do you know what's the deal with "Unable to find the database file (/etc/vmware/locations)"? |
| 02:10.51 | sykopomp1 | let me try that |
| 02:10.53 | sykopomp1 | be back in a flash |
| 02:11.24 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Actually, I think that one's put there by the initial installation |
| 02:11.41 | ma3x | hello, any package fonts for FireFox? |
| 02:11.47 | ShaiW | hmmphh... which means the installation I have is no good? |
| 02:11.49 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Maybe you installed it improperly, or you unzipped it and are trying to run it directly rather than running the install script? |
| 02:11.55 | WiFiTux | wine is so good, that I could almost install windows with it, run vmware and install Linux in the wine windos vmware linux box@ |
| 02:12.00 | ShaiW | I dpkged it |
| 02:12.08 | WiFiTux | :/ |
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| 02:12.22 | ShaiW | WiFiTux, and then you could install wine in the linux box |
| 02:12.29 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I'm not aware of any Debian package of VMware... must be an unofficial package, but maybe it's broken |
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| 02:12.35 | abrotman | wine blows |
| 02:12.35 | WiFiTux | ShaiW: and a loop. |
| 02:12.37 | abrotman | honestly it does |
| 02:12.44 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I just installed it using the script... it's the only non-packaged software on my system |
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| 02:12.48 | WiFiTux | abrotman: sure, if you make it runs msi files |
| 02:12.49 | ShaiW | Wyzard, it used to be an rpm, I've alienated it |
| 02:12.52 | frood | wine does blow |
| 02:12.55 | Wyzard | ShaiW: ugh :-) |
| 02:12.57 | abrotman | WiFiTux: no .. for games . .it sucks |
| 02:12.58 | stew | dpkg: qm_modules =~ s#ask me about <bunk 2.6>#if you are using woody you must upgrade to sarge to use a 2.6 kernel, ask me about woody->sarge# |
| 02:12.59 | dpkg | stew: OK |
| 02:13.01 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I wouldn't really trust alien |
| 02:13.15 | ShaiW | that's the only torrent I could find |
| 02:13.20 | WiFiTux | abrotman: well I use it for apps, not games. There are other stuffs used for games, but $$ |
| 02:13.24 | frood | best to unpackage the files and copy them yourself |
| 02:13.27 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Just run the script... I put it in /opt/vmware |
| 02:13.37 | Wyzard | ShaiW: You did purchase it, right? ;-) |
| 02:13.45 | ma3x | abrotman : which package contains the standards fonts? |
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| 02:13.47 | abrotman | WiFiTux: that's all i care about .. |
| 02:13.49 | abrotman | !fonts |
| 02:13.50 | dpkg | fonts is, like, check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, http://www.dimensional.com/~bgiles/debian-tt.html (dead link) for TTF under Debian, and http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html and http://www.justlinux.com/bin/feature/story.pl?fid=1861565 or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html |
| 02:13.50 | ShaiW | sure *blink and whistle* |
| 02:13.56 | WiFiTux | abrotman: games? |
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| 02:14.03 | abrotman | WiFiTux: yes |
| 02:14.08 | abrotman | WiFiTux: what else would i use windows for ? |
| 02:14.24 | WiFiTux | abrotman: true, but I use wine for small exe files. |
| 02:14.30 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I've been told that filemirrors.com is a good place to search for the VMware installer if you need it |
| 02:14.33 | ShaiW | Wyzard, is the script somewhere within the installation or should I unpack the package? |
| 02:14.37 | WiFiTux | There are other game options, why not use them? |
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| 02:14.55 | Wyzard | ShaiW: Unpack the tarball and there's an install script inside, IIRC... I haven't installed it myself in a few years though |
| 02:14.58 | abrotman | WiFiTux: sorry |
| 02:15.08 | WiFiTux | abrotman: I only purchase games that I can play in Linux stock, like Doom 3. It's my revelation |
| 02:15.18 | frood | good plan |
| 02:15.20 | stew | dpkg: fonts =~ s#http://www.dimensional.com/~bgiles/debian-tt.html (dead link) for TTF under Debian, and#ask me about <font guide>, or# |
| 02:15.20 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 02:15.24 | frood | although a bit scarse |
| 02:15.26 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i'd just settle for wine running 5 year old games :) |
| 02:15.34 | frood | like starcraft :D |
| 02:15.41 | WiFiTux | abrotman: roms? :) |
| 02:15.54 | WiFiTux | I love Punch Out |
| 02:15.54 | abrotman | WiFiTux: no .. games |
| 02:15.58 | WiFiTux | oh |
| 02:15.58 | frood | yeah, play zelda |
| 02:16.16 | Xptical_ | how can I start a dummy process listening on a specific UDP port for the purposes of testing a portscanner? |
| 02:16.19 | Osiris | if i have a program running in the background, how can i tap into its stdout/ |
| 02:16.25 | WiFiTux | I would be happy to get counter strike to work... |
| 02:16.26 | Osiris | ? |
| 02:16.32 | stew | Xptical_: use nc aka netcat |
| 02:16.36 | frood | Xpitical :netcat |
| 02:16.42 | Xptical_ | netcat? |
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| 02:17.01 | frood | yeah man |
| 02:17.07 | frood | nc r0x0rs |
| 02:17.28 | ShaiW | ~/etc/bin/installer.sh = installer script? |
| 02:17.31 | Osiris | and dual head.. lol |
| 02:17.33 | elkid | Wyzard: sorry, again, what should i set up in my kernel to make udevd run without troubles? |
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| 02:17.36 | frood | Osiris? where have i heard that before? |
| 02:17.42 | frood | that kevin mitnick film |
| 02:17.44 | frood | .. |
| 02:17.46 | frood | can't remember |
| 02:17.49 | ShaiW | Wyzard, does ~/etc/bin/installer.sh = installer script? |
| 02:17.56 | elkid | Wyzard: in a custom 1 |
| 02:18.11 | Osiris | how can i 'fg' like for a command that i cannot fg? |
| 02:18.18 | Wyzard | elkid: tmpfs is probably all you need, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 02:18.33 | stew | Osiris: uhhh, you cannot? |
| 02:18.34 | frood | such as Osiris? |
| 02:18.37 | Osiris | how do i subscribe to the stdout of a program |
| 02:18.41 | Wyzard | ShaiW: "~/etc/bin"? Doesn't it unpack into a subdirectory of its own? |
| 02:18.49 | ShaiW | nope |
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| 02:18.49 | Osiris | like i have synaptic running now and i want to see its console output but i did not start it in a console |
| 02:18.55 | stew | Osiris: you cannot |
| 02:18.59 | Osiris | that's lame |
| 02:19.02 | Osiris | they need to have that |
| 02:19.05 | Wyzard | Osiris: Short of something like ttysnoop (maybe), you can't |
| 02:19.08 | ShaiW | but that's ok, I did'nt actually extract it to my home folder |
| 02:19.20 | frood | i think theirs an option in synaptic to show it |
| 02:19.22 | obtix | i just switched to X.org and when I start it it fails due to not detecting my keyboard all the sudden - any ideas? |
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| 02:19.38 | ShaiW | "usage: installer.sh {kind|version|convertdb|uninstall|uninstall_without_rpm}" |
| 02:19.39 | ShaiW | ??? |
| 02:19.42 | ShaiW | no "install" |
| 02:19.54 | Osiris | frood: it is but its not dynamic..most of the time i like it off but i just did a big upgrade and want to see it on |
| 02:20.08 | frood | cancel it then |
| 02:20.09 | Osiris | so in the middle of the install i want to see output, but i cant change till its done |
| 02:20.12 | frood | turn it on and resume |
| 02:20.20 | frood | it'll pick up where it left off |
| 02:20.25 | stew | Osiris: start it in a screen an detach from the screen |
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| 02:20.38 | Osiris | `screen` util? |
| 02:20.46 | stew | !screen |
| 02:20.46 | dpkg | i heard screen is like, allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and let's you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or apt-get install screen |
| 02:20.50 | monteiro | i can't install the *.run nvidia driver, it says "ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.". anyone knows how to solve this? |
| 02:20.52 | Osiris | right right just confirming |
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| 02:21.05 | ShaiW | Wyzard, do you know what argument should I show the install script? |
| 02:21.10 | abrotman | ... following the yellow star ... |
| 02:21.20 | Wyzard | ShaiW: I don't remember needing any options |
| 02:21.21 | ShaiW | is there anyway to check the argument the package tool use to start it? |
| 02:21.24 | Wyzard | ShaiW: But the install docs should cover that |
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| 02:21.47 | abrotman | llama34: counting llamas to fall asleep? |
| 02:22.11 | llama34 | abrotman: no, avoiding insluts in #allegro |
| 02:22.14 | llama34 | *insults |
| 02:22.24 | abrotman | allegro still exists ? |
| 02:22.26 | abrotman | holy crap |
| 02:22.31 | abrotman | i thought openAL killed it |
| 02:22.34 | abrotman | err wait |
| 02:22.36 | abrotman | libsdl |
| 02:22.38 | abrotman | whatever |
| 02:22.43 | WiFiTux | Osiris: :) I get confused sometimes with the mouse, but works. |
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| 02:23.44 | Osiris | WiFiTux: ? |
| 02:24.17 | fas3r | i have a big problem with iptables.... |
| 02:24.31 | fas3r | if i make it : $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $INT_IF -o $EXT_IF -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT |
| 02:24.41 | fas3r | $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXT_IF -o $INT_IF -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT |
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| 02:24.49 | fas3r | i have internet on my intranet |
| 02:25.07 | fas3r | but if i make it ; $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $INT_IF -o $EXT_IF -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT |
| 02:25.09 | `UD | with "Screen" can you share a irssi screen between two logins? |
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| 02:25.16 | fas3r | $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXT_IF -o $INT_IF -m state --state ESTABLISHED -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT |
| 02:25.20 | abrotman | #iptables |
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| 02:25.23 | stew | `UD: yes |
| 02:25.25 | fas3r | i dont have internet on my intranet ... |
| 02:25.28 | abrotman | fas3r: #iptables |
| 02:25.30 | WiFiTux | Osiris: ? |
| 02:25.31 | `UD | stew: oh kewl |
| 02:25.53 | abrotman | and stop fucking pasting |
| 02:26.03 | fas3r | abrotman, i'm on iptables by 3h and send my problem... anybody ask me |
| 02:26.20 | fas3r | lol no anybody speak... |
| 02:26.28 | Gnea | fas3r: just ask in #iptables |
| 02:26.30 | abrotman | fas3r: #debian is the WRONG PLACE |
| 02:27.01 | fas3r | anybody speak on iptables... |
| 02:27.15 | abrotman | fas3r: don't ask about it here .. this is the wrong channel |
| 02:27.23 | fas3r | why |
| 02:27.30 | _zoidberg | can anybody help me? when y try to compile a "hello world" in c++ using gcc i get this http://pastebin.com/315954 |
| 02:27.38 | abrotman | fas3r: cause this is #debian ... not #iptables |
| 02:27.39 | Gnea | fas3r: /join #iptables |
| 02:27.41 | Gnea | fas3r: just do it. |
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| 02:27.48 | fas3r | pfffffff |
| 02:27.54 | Gnea | fas3r: no one will help you here. |
| 02:28.01 | Gnea | that good enough reason? |
| 02:28.08 | fas3r | no |
| 02:28.10 | Gnea | too bad. |
| 02:28.14 | Gnea | move it or lose it |
| 02:28.21 | fas3r | ok.... stop tv |
| 02:28.28 | Xptical_ | "netcat -l -u -p 2934" doesn't seem to work. "netcat -l -t -p 80" works no problem. Any ideas? |
| 02:28.45 | Gnea | what's this 'any ideas?' crap everyone keeps saying |
| 02:28.48 | Osiris | yea WiFiTux : why'd you say you get confused with the mouse? |
| 02:28.56 | netcatc | Xptical_: yes |
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| 02:28.57 | fas3r | Xptical_, go to #netcat |
| 02:29.03 | fas3r | it's debian place here |
| 02:29.13 | Gnea | !beer fas3r |
| 02:29.18 | abrotman | oh ffs |
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| 02:29.27 | Gnea | heh |
| 02:29.28 | Osiris | dpkg -i girlfriend |
| 02:29.33 | Osiris | uhhh |
| 02:29.34 | abrotman | cute |
| 02:29.48 | Osiris | not quite what i wanted to do |
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| 02:30.34 | sykopomp2 | hey Stew |
| 02:30.35 | abrotman | Osiris: that's no way to get a date |
| 02:30.38 | stew | Xptical_: does netcat show up in "netstat -plunt | grep 2934" ? |
| 02:30.38 | sykopomp2 | can you show me that link again? |
| 02:30.42 | fas3r | and///////// |
| 02:30.56 | stew | !wikifaq sykopomp2 UseSoundCard |
| 02:30.57 | dpkg | sykopomp2: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 02:30.58 | stew | that one? |
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| 02:31.01 | sykopomp2 | thanks bud |
| 02:31.02 | Osiris | abrotman: apt get install girlfriend! |
| 02:31.06 | Osiris | lol :( |
| 02:31.15 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.18 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.24 | flux | is there a debian package for mplayer? |
| 02:31.33 | stew | flux: no, but /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 02:31.35 | Gnea | !tell flux about mplayer |
| 02:31.41 | fas3r | flux go to #mplayer.... it's debian place |
| 02:31.45 | WiFiTux | !marillat |
| 02:31.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 02:31.56 | Gnea | fas3r: that'll be enough |
| 02:31.57 | flux | hello? |
| 02:31.58 | sykopomp2 | yeah this is bizarre and doesn't help at all :( |
| 02:32.10 | fas3r | hein? |
| 02:32.12 | sykopomp2 | my sound driver isn't even in /etc/modules in the first place |
| 02:32.22 | Osiris | o cool thanks for those links to the repository |
| 02:32.26 | Grievre | doesn't need to be |
| 02:32.27 | Gnea | sykopomp2: it's probably getting picked up by discover |
| 02:32.44 | stew | sykopomp2: it could be picked up by discover or hotplug /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 02:32.52 | sykopomp2 | well |
| 02:32.54 | sykopomp2 | here's the problem |
| 02:33.01 | sykopomp2 | I'm pretty new to debian |
| 02:33.08 | sykopomp2 | and I was looking through the packages some time ago |
| 02:33.12 | sykopomp2 | and installed discover1 |
| 02:33.23 | sykopomp2 | and I just realized discover1 is older than discover... |
| 02:33.31 | Grievre | sykopomp2: OSS or alsa? |
| 02:33.32 | Gnea | !tell sykopomp2 about blacklist |
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| 02:33.40 | abrotman | sykopomp2: stop |
| 02:33.41 | abrotman | hitting |
| 02:33.43 | abrotman | enter |
| 02:34.08 | CVirus | is Debian more KDE Integrated like SuSE or more Gnome Integrated like Fedora Core ? |
| 02:34.20 | abrotman | CVirus: neither |
| 02:34.23 | stew | CVirus: its neutral |
| 02:34.25 | abrotman | CVirus: all are equal |
| 02:34.30 | CVirus | nice |
| 02:34.31 | initech | CVirus: yes |
| 02:34.47 | Grievre | sykopomp2: there should be an alias pointing to your sound card module somewhere in your modules.conf or modprobe.d |
| 02:34.51 | abrotman | !phillysmite Gnea |
| 02:34.57 | Gnea | CVirus: debian is none of those, it just is - there are sub-distributions that utilize various wm's though |
| 02:35.08 | Gnea | i hope she's cute |
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| 02:35.15 | abrotman | Gnea: odds are .. no |
| 02:35.25 | CVirus | Gnea, elaborate please |
| 02:35.32 | Gnea | abrotman: if she has std's then definately no |
| 02:35.34 | stew | Grievre: not necesarily |
| 02:35.40 | abrotman | CVirus: there are distros based on debian that center on one WM |
| 02:35.51 | CVirus | abrotman, like ? |
| 02:36.02 | abrotman | CVirus: ubuntu .. kubuntu .. knoppix etc |
| 02:36.07 | CVirus | hmm |
| 02:36.21 | CVirus | u suggest me Debian or Ubuntu ? |
| 02:36.30 | stew | debian of course |
| 02:36.32 | Gnea | CVirus: debian has become something of a 'base' distribution for which other distros (like knoppix, kanotix, ubuntu, elive, mepis, etc etc etc etc...) are based upon, but utilized different desktop methods to produce something slick and functioning |
| 02:36.45 | abrotman | Gnea: short term disability ? |
| 02:36.50 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:36.50 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:36.52 | Gnea | abrotman: lol |
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| 02:37.14 | ma3x | sendmail: |
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| 02:37.16 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.18 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.20 | ma3x | why am i getting those errors? |
| 02:37.25 | Gnea | CVirus: but see, we don't support those sub-distributions here, only that base of it all |
| 02:37.26 | CVirus | Gnea, u suggest me Debian or Ubuntu ? |
| 02:37.30 | sykopomp2 | I'm not sure actually |
| 02:37.37 | sykopomp2 | I installed the alsa package... |
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| 02:37.40 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:37.40 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:37.51 | WiFiTux | Jim? |
| 02:38.06 | Gnea | CVirus: since you are a n00b, i'd recommend ubuntu - your next step is to leave this channel and to /join #ubuntu, they will take care of you there |
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| 02:38.19 | ma3x | anybody knows that |
| 02:38.24 | ma3x | when i try to install sendmail |
| 02:38.25 | abrotman | Gnea: or tell him to come back here |
| 02:38.31 | ma3x | it says unresolvable dependencies |
| 02:38.32 | abrotman | ma3x: first tip .. don't use sendmail |
| 02:38.37 | CVirus | Gnea, I aint that n00b |
| 02:38.44 | ma3x | abrotman what should i use as local mail? |
| 02:38.50 | abrotman | ma3x: exim or postfix |
| 02:38.55 | abrotman | err exim4 or postfix |
| 02:39.00 | CVirus | I'm just leaving my distro and searching for a good one |
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| 02:39.01 | Gnea | CVirus: you are to debian in general :) |
| 02:39.09 | Gnea | CVirus: what are you on now? |
| 02:39.12 | WiFiTux | CVirus: debian, but learn yourself. Google and apt-get and apt-cache search is your friend. |
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| 02:39.20 | ma3x | abrotman : does it require any special configuration? |
| 02:39.29 | ma3x | or i just apt-install it and ready to go |
| 02:39.29 | abrotman | ma3x: depends on your needs |
| 02:39.31 | WiFiTux | s/is/are/ |
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| 02:39.40 | abrotman | CVirus: which distro are you on now ? |
| 02:39.43 | sykopomp2 | modules.conf is chock full of alsa stuff |
| 02:39.47 | SDFH_Linux | did a apt-get update and now abiword is broken |
| 02:39.47 | CVirus | Gnea, I used to be a Fedora Core user .. but now I tried SuSE and found it more KDE integrated |
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| 02:40.01 | CVirus | abrotman, now SuSE |
| 02:40.01 | WiFiTux | abrotman: Distro is XP |
| 02:40.19 | muondude | hi |
| 02:40.22 | CVirus | abrotman, but it is more KDE integrated than gnome |
| 02:40.22 | WiFiTux | or the green Mexican Edition |
| 02:40.25 | CVirus | i dun like that |
| 02:40.31 | abrotman | WiFiTux: what are you on about ? |
| 02:40.34 | Gnea | CVirus: that's cool |
| 02:40.37 | abrotman | CVirus: which do you prefer ? |
| 02:40.38 | bob2 | ma3x: you broke apt somehow |
| 02:40.44 | ma3x | bob2 why? |
| 02:40.52 | Gnea | CVirus: i went through redhat and slackware before debian |
| 02:40.55 | CVirus | abrotman, Fedora for sure |
| 02:40.58 | WiFiTux | abrotman: dope. |
| 02:40.59 | bob2 | ma3x: I don't know why you did that, but that's what the error means |
| 02:41.02 | SDFH_Linux | did a apt-get update and now abiword is broken |
| 02:41.04 | abrotman | CVirus: i meant kde or gnome |
| 02:41.10 | CVirus | abrotman, Gnome for sure |
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| 02:41.20 | Gnea | CVirus: i was the uber n00b ;) |
| 02:41.20 | ma3x | bob2 it's from synaptic, not from apt |
| 02:41.21 | abrotman | CVirus: ubuntu might be good for you .. they have a liveCD ... |
| 02:41.23 | muondude | upgraded from woody to sarge and now printing does not work; lpd -s is runing |
| 02:41.28 | bob2 | ma3x: same thing |
| 02:41.32 | muondude | lpq gives: Warning: unable to get local interface address: Connection refused |
| 02:41.32 | muondude | Warning: no daemon present |
| 02:41.35 | bob2 | ma3x: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood |
| 02:41.49 | CVirus | abrotman, already tried its live CD |
| 02:41.52 | stew | ma3x: are you still on unstable or did you reinstall? |
| 02:42.03 | CVirus | Gnea, :) |
| 02:42.04 | muondude | any suggestions; I've googled and man'd until my fingers hurt! |
| 02:42.15 | Gnea | CVirus: i would definately recommend ubuntu, and perhaps sarge once you've gotten used to the package system |
| 02:42.15 | CVirus | abrotman, but why not Debian ? |
| 02:42.22 | abrotman | CVirus: you can use debian |
| 02:42.26 | bob2 | maybe sendmail isn't installable in sid |
| 02:42.30 | abrotman | CVirus: it's just not as .. friendly |
| 02:42.31 | bob2 | that sounds a bit unlikely tho |
| 02:42.37 | abrotman | CVirus: to new users i mean |
| 02:42.39 | abrotman | !d-i CVirus |
| 02:42.40 | dpkg | CVirus, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 02:42.42 | CVirus | hmm |
| 02:42.42 | Gnea | CVirus: because i know how bad suse is, i have had to support it at work :P |
| 02:43.22 | CVirus | I think I'll go for Ubuntu |
| 02:43.46 | Gnea | CVirus: thing is, definately keep your unbuntu questions in #ubuntu and you'll be golden |
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| 02:44.01 | Gnea | :) |
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| 02:44.07 | ma3x | stew: don't listen to bob |
| 02:44.11 | ma3x | i changed to stable :)) |
| 02:44.29 | Gnea | ma3x: hush you |
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| 02:44.43 | ma3x | comeon, im just kidding |
| 02:44.45 | stew | ma3x: if i were going to listen to either bob2 or you, it would not be you |
| 02:44.51 | bob2 | then it's even less likely to be uninstallable |
| 02:44.56 | bob2 | ma3x: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood |
| 02:45.41 | Gnea | !teabag |
| 02:45.41 | dpkg | hmm... teabag is what gnea does best. |
| 02:45.46 | CVirus | Gnea, thanks for the advice :) |
| 02:46.05 | Gnea | CVirus: np - be sure to check the 2.6 option |
| 02:46.14 | CVirus | ;) |
| 02:46.15 | ke6isf | !ubuntusmite CVirus |
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| 02:46.42 | Gnea | ke6isf: that was quite unnecessary |
| 02:46.54 | ke6isf | ... |
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| 02:47.11 | ke6isf | ...sorry |
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| 02:47.19 | SDFH_Linux | did a apt-get update and now abiword is broken has anyone else had this problem? |
| 02:47.23 | TGM | Is there any way to disable apt-secure fuctionality in aptitude 2.15.0? |
| 02:47.23 | Gnea | !beer ke6isf |
| 02:47.31 | ke6isf | Gnea: You're very kind. |
| 02:47.41 | Gnea | ke6isf: gotta be |
| 02:47.53 | Gnea | being unkind sucks :) |
| 02:47.57 | ke6isf | True dat. |
| 02:48.05 | jamsi | dpkg is Gay |
| 02:48.11 | Gnea | jamsi: your mom. |
| 02:48.13 | stew | !tell jamsi about gay |
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| 02:48.46 | Gnea | no nibbles |
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| 02:48.58 | ke6isf | That wasn't even a clever troll. |
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| 02:49.19 | muondude | hello: woody to sarge upgrade now printing doesn't work |
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| 02:49.33 | abrotman | tree killer! |
| 02:49.35 | stew | muondude: you forgot to plug in the printer |
| 02:49.41 | Gnea | muondude: you may have to re-configure |
| 02:50.04 | sinned | is there any known problems with upgrading flex during a dist upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1? |
| 02:50.08 | MrKeuner | hi, I recently got apt-listchanges news that udev does not support kernel versions less than 2.6.12. However it looks like there is no 2.6.12 kernel in the repository yet. Or am I missing something? |
| 02:50.18 | abrotman | sinned: bts might have some |
| 02:50.18 | Gnea | sinned: nafaik |
| 02:50.19 | stew | MrKeuner: nope |
| 02:50.19 | muondude | stew: cute, but i never unplugged it |
| 02:50.52 | stew | muondude: it was my best guess based on the information you have given us so far |
| 02:50.56 | Gnea | MrKeuner: that's probably sid |
| 02:51.03 | stew | s/probably// |
| 02:51.09 | sinned | Gnea: nafaik? |
| 02:51.11 | Gnea | MrKeuner: they don't call it 'unstable' for nothin' |
| 02:51.12 | abrotman | MrKeuner: you could tell marco about it .. but he'd probably accuse you of being mentally deficient in 27 ways |
| 02:51.18 | Gnea | sinned: Not As Far As I Know |
| 02:51.19 | jamsi | dpkg is my kids father |
| 02:51.27 | abrotman | jamsi: stop |
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| 02:51.52 | MrKeuner | No I am alright knowing that I am not missing anything |
| 02:52.04 | muondude | Gnea: I tried that and still doesn't work; when I do lpq I get Warning: unable to get local interface address: Connection refused |
| 02:52.08 | muondude | Warning: no daemon present |
| 02:52.17 | Gnea | muondude: cups? |
| 02:52.17 | jamsi | !tell Abrotman about pregnancy |
| 02:52.29 | stew | bob2: can you +q jamsi ? |
| 02:52.48 | abrotman | jamsi: please stop |
| 02:52.53 | jamsi | oh come on. Just trying to liven this channel up |
| 02:52.55 | Gnea | muondude: yeah it means that the cupsd isn't running, you need /etc/init.d/cupsys restart and check your syslog |
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| 02:53.01 | abrotman | jamsi: please go troll elsewhere |
| 02:53.12 | Gnea | jamsi: i've got something you can liven up... |
| 02:53.24 | jamsi | alright alright don't get ur knickers in a knot i'll stop :P |
| 02:53.25 | ke6isf | jamsi: you're not even being intelligent in doing this. |
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| 02:53.29 | abrotman | !ur |
| 02:53.29 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 02:53.37 | abrotman | moron |
| 02:53.38 | ma3x | its time to sleep after |
| 02:53.41 | ma3x | 24 hours debian |
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| 02:53.54 | ma3x | now im tired :( |
| 02:53.59 | ma3x | see you tomorrow guys! |
| 02:54.00 | ma3x | :) |
| 02:54.03 | ke6isf | ma3x: Sleep is for the weak! |
| 02:54.09 | ke6isf | ...zzz... |
| 02:54.20 | ma3x | ke6isf hehe |
| 02:54.20 | RogueDopple | and senile |
| 02:54.30 | muondude | Gnea: cups is not installed; should I install it? I didn't have it in woody? |
| 02:54.31 | ke6isf | RogueDopple: ...what were we talking about? |
| 02:54.42 | RogueDopple | sleep for teh weak and senile |
| 02:54.49 | Gnea | muondude: i would highly recommend it, cups is the best printing system |
| 02:54.51 | ma3x | im just not completly satisfied |
| 02:54.58 | ma3x | because of that ntfs failure |
| 02:55.06 | Gnea | ma3x: ntfs sucks. |
| 02:55.09 | ma3x | didn't find a way to write on my ntfs partition |
| 02:55.16 | ma3x | i know but i already have a lot of data there |
| 02:55.20 | ma3x | so i want to keep writing |
| 02:55.20 | Guerin | ma3x: blame microsoft |
| 02:55.28 | Gnea | !ntfs |
| 02:55.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 02:55.30 | Guerin | ma3x: write them and complain |
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| 02:55.35 | Ipsooo | can someone tell me where is the filesystem subsection in the kernel menuconfig? i cant find it anymore |
| 02:55.50 | muondude | Gnea: I use in on the mac and another debian box, but wasn't sure I need it now... OK I'll see if that helps: Thanks.... |
| 02:55.50 | Guerin | Ipsooo: come on, look harder |
| 02:55.50 | Gnea | Ipsooo: 2.6? |
| 02:56.02 | Guerin | Ipsooo: it's not open heart surgery |
| 02:56.04 | stetyR | hola |
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| 02:56.05 | abrotman | Ipsooo: ask #kernel |
| 02:56.32 | Ipsooo | i know, but its late here, sorry |
| 02:56.35 | abrotman | wtf is .do ? |
| 02:56.42 | doub | Ipsooo: or edit .config by hand, for filesystems it's not that you require the labelled text |
| 02:56.56 | Ipsooo | lol |
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| 02:57.06 | Guerin | abrotman: dominican republic |
| 02:57.16 | abrotman | oh wait |
| 02:57.31 | abrotman | that's right dont.you.people.have.better.things.to.do |
| 02:57.31 | Guerin | no, never edit .config by hand |
| 02:57.32 | Ipsooo | i forgot i was in the device drivers section :p its really late here :p |
| 02:57.37 | Guerin | you'll break something |
| 02:57.39 | Ipsooo | im gonna hide |
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| 02:57.56 | Guerin | abrotman: do.be.do.be.do |
| 02:58.19 | Guerin | bad.boys.bad.boys.whatcha.gonna.do |
| 02:58.20 | Guerin | etc. |
| 02:58.27 | ma3x | !captiventfs |
| 02:58.27 | dpkg | it has been said that captive is The first kind of free if you squint NTFS read/write filesystem for GNU/Linux. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 02:58.49 | doub | Guerin: is it a joke? |
| 02:58.54 | abrotman | is what a joke |
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| 02:59.03 | Guerin | doub: probably ... what exactly? |
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| 02:59.05 | doub | Guerin: i mean the one about .config hand-edited |
| 02:59.14 | Guerin | doub: no, it's serious like cancer. |
| 02:59.20 | stetyR | hola |
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| 03:00.04 | doub | Guerin: in what respect would that break anything? it's just VAR=value where value is one of ynm |
| 03:00.12 | doub | Guerin: and # comments |
| 03:00.20 | doub | i fail to see what would be broken |
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| 03:01.11 | Guerin | doub: and there are inter-module dependencies, which menuconfig does for you. |
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| 03:01.31 | abrotman | Guerin: that doesn't mean you screw up the file .. you just get a crappy kernel |
| 03:01.35 | Guerin | doub: you clearly aren't even aware of this fact, so you really, really oughtn't be editing configs |
| 03:01.37 | doub | Guerin: not much that i'm aware of considering file systems |
| 03:01.39 | Guerin | abrotman: sure... |
| 03:01.45 | Guerin | doub: it's just bad advice |
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| 03:02.39 | nicolas22 | any one know's where i can find info about how to put a splash screeen while linux is booting??? something like dos de live-cd of Gentoo... i want to do this in a debian machine... thanxs!!! |
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| 03:02.43 | paul0 | where i can find help about running windows games in debian? |
| 03:02.44 | doub | Guerin: well, i agree, this is not a good advice to give |
| 03:02.52 | paul0 | i'm trying to run Mu Online in debian |
| 03:02.56 | Guerin | !find splashy |
| 03:03.07 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'splashy' returned no results. |
| 03:03.13 | Guerin | !splashy |
| 03:03.13 | dpkg | i heard splashy is a basic userspace bootsplash package which is currently in experimental but works in sarge alright. |
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| 03:04.14 | nicolas22 | it needs the vesafb, i will check out that... thanxs |
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| 03:04.49 | positrix | unless the bootsplash displays pics of scantily clad women, ill stick with text-based bootup |
| 03:04.57 | ufoalien | :D |
| 03:05.07 | Guerin | positrix: it's configurable, naturally |
| 03:05.27 | WiFiTux | hey, one quick question... how big can an etx3 drive be? |
| 03:05.37 | Guerin | WiFiTux: way bigger than you need |
| 03:05.41 | doub | Guerin: but running config again would fix those, i guess |
| 03:06.04 | Guerin | doub: maybe |
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| 03:06.22 | WiFiTux | Guerin: yeah, I'll put an 80GB here for backup, so probably I shouldn't have a probelm right? Biggest file can be 4gb? |
| 03:06.38 | Guerin | WiFiTux: waaaay bigger than that |
| 03:06.41 | Guerin | ordrs of magnitude |
| 03:06.58 | WiFiTux | Guerin: I guess you are right. No worries then. Thanks! |
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| 03:08.06 | pablum | Is it still pornography if it's etched in wood? (looking for Duerer prints for my desktop) |
| 03:08.08 | coywolf | how to change the xterm font size permenently? |
| 03:08.34 | pablum | er, large images of them, anyway. |
| 03:08.44 | ke6isf | pablum: Does it give *you* wood? |
| 03:08.46 | positrix | pablum: it its tastefully done, then its just erotic art |
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| 03:09.07 | positrix | s/it/if |
| 03:09.31 | Guerin | coywolf: read the documentation to xresources |
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| 03:10.03 | pablum | damn she's got back |
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| 03:10.09 | abrotman | coywolf: you read the man page didn't you ? |
| 03:10.36 | pablum | it's just Albrecht Duerer, but sorry Guerin |
| 03:10.45 | Whiskers | I already have a debian sarge network cd from a while back, do I need to obtain a new network install cd to get the newer debian? |
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| 03:11.16 | abrotman | Whiskers: nope .. just use http sources .. use apt-setup |
| 03:11.18 | stew | Whiskers: no, you can use that cd and upgrade via apt |
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| 03:11.49 | SDFH_Linux | anyone did a apt-get update and broke there abiword? |
| 03:11.59 | Whiskers | ok thank you |
| 03:12.03 | coywolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:12.03 | coywolf | No manual entry for xresources |
| 03:12.25 | abrotman | i didn't tell you to read that man page did i? |
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| 03:12.42 | stew | coywolf: man x ; man xrdb |
| 03:13.49 | stew | abrotman: looks like he nemed his machine after you |
| 03:13.57 | stew | awww |
| 03:14.15 | abrotman | say what ? |
| 03:14.28 | abrotman | stew: oh |
| 03:14.35 | abrotman | maybe he did |
| 03:14.46 | tvn | he hacked into abrotman 's computer is a likely |
| 03:14.54 | abrotman | not likely |
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| 03:15.22 | blackout | is there a bash/zsh command to change a relative pathname to absolute pathname? |
| 03:15.23 | black13 | from the producers of blah blah and the director yada yada ... |
| 03:15.38 | blackout | all i actually want to do is get the parent of `pwd` |
| 03:15.39 | madclicker | debian installer #$%@$%@%@%@%@&*() |
| 03:15.48 | stew | blackout: $PWD/.. |
| 03:15.50 | SDFH_Linux | anyone did a apt-get update and broke there abiword? |
| 03:16.08 | tvn | SDFH_Linux: no, not happened on Sarge |
| 03:16.19 | blackout | stew: that's a command - i need the value |
| 03:16.32 | SDFH_Linux | i run mixed stable and unstable |
| 03:16.33 | stew | blackout: no thats a value, an absolute pathname value |
| 03:16.43 | zebalin | Evening folks. Is Sid still 'unstable' (bad pun). Or have things settled down today? |
| 03:16.47 | stew | blackout: or PARENTDIR=`basename $PWD` |
| 03:16.57 | stew | blackout: err no |
| 03:17.04 | stew | blackout: PARENTDIR=`dirname $PWD` |
| 03:17.25 | maher | blackout: or use realpath |
| 03:17.31 | blackout | stew: dirname is great, thanks |
| 03:17.34 | blackout | maher: what's that? |
| 03:17.56 | maher | blackout: if you're in a symlinked dir it gives you the real path... |
| 03:18.08 | blackout | maher: i don't see it in zsh/bash |
| 03:18.16 | stew | zebalin: things have not settled down |
| 03:18.24 | maher | blackout: its in a separate package |
| 03:19.13 | zebalin | stew: i'm relatively new to debian. Sid has been 'solid' for past 5 months. Any idea how long current 'turmoil' will last, judging from past experience? |
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| 03:19.21 | abrotman | !moo |
| 03:19.21 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939 |
| 03:19.24 | ShaiW | Wyzard, will the VM always be that heavy on my box, or is it just the installation that takes up lots of resources? |
| 03:19.31 | abrotman | zebalin: WIR :) |
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| 03:19.32 | maher | zebalin: why not use stable and run unstable in a chroot |
| 03:19.33 | stew | zebalin: no way of knowing |
| 03:19.45 | abrotman | zebalin: there's no way to know .. |
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| 03:20.10 | zebalin | ok, thanks guys. appreciate the input. |
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| 03:21.59 | SDFH_Linux | anyone did a apt-get update and broke there abiword? |
| 03:22.02 | SDFH_Linux | i run mixed stable and unstable |
| 03:22.16 | maher | SDFH_Linux: why not use stable and run unstable in a chroot |
| 03:22.22 | PerfDave | SDFH_Linux: Mixing binary packages between stable and unstable is now doomed to failure. Backport stuff. |
| 03:22.42 | PerfDave | Running unstable in a chroot is also now doomed to failure :) |
| 03:22.50 | SDFH_Linux | all i know is abiword is broken now along with gaim |
| 03:22.57 | maher | SDFH_Linux: yes |
| 03:23.05 | PerfDave | SDFH_Linux: Mixing binary packages between stable and unstable is now doomed to failure. Backport stuff. |
| 03:23.05 | RogueDopple | some people never fscking learn |
| 03:23.26 | maher | PerfDave: failure is not an option - it comes included with all dists... |
| 03:23.37 | PerfDave | maher: What are you talking about? |
| 03:23.55 | zebalin | SDFH_Linux: not gaim per se, its some lib that gaim calls that will wipe KDE. |
| 03:24.03 | SDFH_Linux | yep |
| 03:24.05 | maher | PerfDave: i was refering to your doomed to failure comment |
| 03:24.13 | SDFH_Linux | lnow abiword is broken too |
| 03:24.16 | SDFH_Linux | now* |
| 03:24.16 | PerfDave | maher: Oh, so you just don't know what you're talking about ;0 |
| 03:24.28 | stew | SDFH_Linux: i don't think gaim is currently broken in unstable, but the libaspell it depends on conflicts with another libaspell |
| 03:24.34 | stew | SDFH_Linux: welcome to sid |
| 03:24.37 | maher | PerfDave: why can't you run unstable in a chroot? |
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| 03:25.11 | PerfDave | maher: ABI changes |
| 03:25.13 | stew | maher: becuase of the abi change |
| 03:25.20 | ke6isf | I propose a rename of sid to "hell". |
| 03:25.33 | SDFH_Linux | when is this ABI thing going to be done? |
| 03:25.47 | PerfDave | SDFH_Linux: When it's done. If you don't like it, don't run sid. |
| 03:25.52 | ufoalien | I've got a question: I want do create a little linux-cluster 20-30 machines, which software should I use? |
| 03:25.53 | dings | ke6isf: sid already says what it is |
| 03:25.56 | PerfDave | ke6isf: That codename is reseved for Gentoo ;) |
| 03:25.58 | maher | PerfDave: stew: the point of the chrrot is to fall back to stabl ewhen you can't fix unstable - my unstabl einstall works just fine... |
| 03:26.12 | PerfDave | maher: That's nice for you. It'll break horribly very soon. |
| 03:26.17 | SDFH_Linux | i like sid i just want to know if you guys heard when abouts it should be done? |
| 03:26.25 | dings | ke6isf: Just beacause debian releases to seldom people start using it and get trouble :) |
| 03:26.38 | ke6isf | But wait, that way, whenever soembody complains, you can just say "welcome to hell". =^^= |
| 03:26.40 | maher | PerfDave: why? i dealt with the previous 4 years of abi changes... |
| 03:26.55 | maher | ufoalien: fai? |
| 03:27.01 | PerfDave | maher: I'm sure you did. Go on dealing. |
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| 03:27.26 | zebalin | Does 'testing' have a history of breaking as badly as sid is now? |
| 03:27.32 | PerfDave | zebalin: No |
| 03:27.33 | stew | zebalin: no |
| 03:27.34 | zebalin | is broken* |
| 03:27.42 | PerfDave | SDFH_Linux: It's an ongoing process, it's hardly even started yet. Maybe a few weeks before things are mostly working, probably a few months before most stuff is ironed out. |
| 03:27.48 | stew | zebalin: it breaks but not as often and not as gloriously |
| 03:27.52 | maher | zebalin: it breaks less often, but when it does break it can take longer for the fixes to percolate down |
| 03:28.02 | SDFH_Linux | doh |
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| 03:28.12 | PerfDave | SDFH_Linux: And after these big changes, there will be others. This is standard behaviour for an unstable branch immediately following a release. |
| 03:28.24 | SDFH_Linux | ok |
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| 03:28.28 | maher | SDFH_Linux: put stuff on hold or rebuild manually |
| 03:28.30 | mngrif | what kind of utils are there for making debian-based bootdisks? |
| 03:28.37 | ufoalien | maher: hm. yes, fai-cluster.de sounds good, thx |
| 03:29.05 | maher | mngrif: bootcd |
| 03:29.48 | zebalin | Sarge is now 'stable', right? What is 'testing' called? |
| 03:30.01 | positrix | zebalin etch |
| 03:30.05 | SDFH_Linux | well i guess when it breaks to the point where i cant use it i will reinstall stable |
| 03:30.31 | coywolf | !xrdb |
| 03:30.38 | coywolf | how to use xrdb? |
| 03:30.49 | stew | coywolf: xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources |
| 03:30.51 | zebalin | etch? Don't remember that character from movie.... unless it is the etch-a-sketch toy? Where do I install from? |
| 03:31.04 | stew | zebalin: install stable and then /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 03:31.19 | stew | zebalin: the etch d-i has been "sketchy" lately |
| 03:31.25 | stew | haha i made a bad pun |
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| 03:31.42 | llama32 | * Redundant pokes his own eyes |
| 03:31.42 | llama32 | Redundant *poke* *poke* |
| 03:32.03 | coywolf | stew, xrdb: can't open file '/home/coywolf/.Xresources' |
| 03:32.09 | coywolf | stew, i dont' have Xresources |
| 03:32.15 | coywolf | stew, how to produce it? |
| 03:32.25 | stew | with a text editor, what are you trying to do? |
| 03:32.47 | coywolf | stew, try to make xterm font larger and reverse video |
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| 03:33.16 | deadcat | coywolf: touch |
| 03:33.56 | llama32 | * Redundant slaps his penis around a bit with Windows ME |
| 03:34.08 | zebalin | stew: sound good. I run mepis and kanotix. never installed debian proper. Don't want 20 CDs worth of stuff!! |
| 03:34.11 | stew | coywolf: choose a font with xfontsel, then copy the font string and put a line in .Xresources like XTerm*font: -*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |
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| 03:34.24 | stew | coywolf: and XTerm*reverseVideo: true (i think) |
| 03:34.36 | stew | coywolf: refer to the RESOURCES section of the X(7x) manpage |
| 03:34.50 | coywolf | stew, thanks |
| 03:35.09 | stew | coywolf: after you edit that file xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources to make the changes take effect |
| 03:35.23 | stew | (they won't affect already running xterms) |
| 03:35.53 | stew | if you want to make changes global to all clients, not just xterm, then use *font: ... instead of XTerm*font: ... etc |
| 03:36.12 | llama32 | * Redundant licks kazzmir's rear end |
| 03:36.12 | llama32 | Redundant *SLURRRRRRRRRRRP* |
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| 03:36.27 | Akrame | hi all |
| 03:36.33 | Akrame | someone knows how to add a sub domain ? |
| 03:36.41 | stew | Akrame: what do you mean? |
| 03:37.03 | stew | Akrame: you need to talk to the admin of your dns zone first of all |
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| 03:37.39 | ke6isf | Akrame: That's a DNS question. |
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| 03:38.35 | Akrame | i know |
| 03:38.40 | Akrame | i have got a dedicated server |
| 03:38.43 | Akrame | with mah domain name |
| 03:38.48 | Akrame | and i want to add a subdomain |
| 03:38.51 | Akrame | like webmail.me.net |
| 03:39.06 | ke6isf | Well, you put it in the zone file. Why are you asking in here, though? |
| 03:39.54 | Akrame | i dunno |
| 03:39.56 | Akrame | where to ask |
| 03:40.06 | stew | Akrame: ask the admin of the DNS for that domani |
| 03:40.08 | maher | Akrame: who runs your dns |
| 03:40.10 | stew | domain* |
| 03:40.35 | Akrame | ! |
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| 03:40.39 | Akrame | i dunno lol |
| 03:41.12 | maher | Akrame: try whois domain.name |
| 03:41.32 | ke6isf | Akrame: It's in the technical contact information for the whois record. Talk to them. |
| 03:41.57 | jake1932 | even after configuring /etc/network/interfaces with a static address, the correct static address only hold for a day - any ideas why? |
| 03:42.05 | Akrame | bye bye all |
| 03:42.10 | Akrame | thanks everybody |
| 03:42.15 | Akrame | maher , stew , ke6isf |
| 03:42.17 | Akrame | thank you |
| 03:42.21 | ke6isf | Gladly, I guess. |
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| 03:42.34 | stew | Akrame: ask one of the script kiddies who has probably owned your box to do it for you... |
| 03:42.46 | ke6isf | stew: ROFL! |
| 03:43.07 | maher | jake1932: does it change to a different one? |
| 03:43.10 | ke6isf | !ma |
| 03:43.10 | dpkg | i heard ma is milliampere(s). Morocco |
| 03:43.12 | llama32 | are there any bots i can make say amusing stuff about them licking themselves in an abnormal manner? |
| 03:43.15 | jake1932 | yep - .38 |
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| 03:43.35 | jake1932 | it was .45 when it started |
| 03:43.43 | stew | llama32: do you have a debian related question? |
| 03:43.46 | jake1932 | and whever i restart |
| 03:44.20 | maher | jake1932: can you paste /etc/network/interfaces in #flood |
| 03:44.22 | llama32 | stew: sure, i want to make bots say funny stuff via xchat on debian |
| 03:44.26 | jake1932 | will do |
| 03:44.39 | stew | llama32: apt-get install blootbot |
| 03:44.42 | stew | llama32: anything else? |
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| 03:45.39 | kevinv | deadcat: Thanks, Splashy works great! |
| 03:46.10 | deadcat | kevinv: cool. |
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| 03:46.17 | deadcat | kevinv: bootup works too eh? |
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| 03:46.30 | llama32 | stew: no, that's fine thanks |
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| 03:47.26 | llama32 | bingo! |
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| 03:52.00 | zebalin | is there a website with screen shots of the debian installer? |
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| 03:53.18 | kevinv | deadcat: yup, everything works great, it works with any debian-based distro with libc 2.3+ |
| 03:53.46 | deadcat | kevinv: nice. |
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| 03:55.40 | llama32 | anyone know of a C IRC library? |
| 03:55.42 | stew | llama32: /join #debian-bugs and lend a hand |
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| 03:58.05 | landslide | anyone know if there are any improved viewcvs templates for debian? at the moment mine are not colorized at all. |
| 03:58.06 | rosemary | I am trying to install debian sarge. I tried apt-get install x-window-system but get told package is not available, it may be missing, onsolted, or available from another source. x-wondow-system has no installation candidate. I'm installing from CDs |
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| 03:58.27 | stew | rosemary: run apt-setup |
| 03:58.32 | rosemary | obsoleted |
| 03:58.59 | stew | rosemary: they are certainly not missing or obsolete in sarge, you probably just need to setup your sources |
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| 04:00.33 | black13 | what is the debian wiki for? |
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| 04:01.25 | chealer | black13: publishing some information about Debian |
| 04:01.48 | xi4 | how would one come out of a crash when the program was useing your sound device? |
| 04:01.53 | black13 | chealer does it go through a review process ? |
| 04:02.10 | chealer | black13: obviously not...it's a wiki |
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| 04:04.23 | rosemary | stew: yes did that, and it's okay now. I remember I had difficulty with that section and pressed <enter> too quickly - thanks |
| 04:04.45 | stew | !widhe |
| 04:04.45 | dpkg | When In Doubt, Hit Enter |
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| 04:05.12 | black13 | how about the "any" key |
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| 04:06.21 | SharpShooter | in the apt config will distro update be like. deb ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/debian/ etch main |
| 04:06.43 | SharpShooter | and if i want i could replace etch w/ sid right |
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| 04:07.02 | foo | You guys recommend lame for ripping mp3's with grip, right? |
| 04:07.22 | puetzk | SharpShooter: yes, though I wouldn't recommend it right this moment |
| 04:07.33 | puetzk | the g++4 transition is still settling out :-) |
| 04:07.42 | stew | SharpShooter: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 04:09.51 | stew | foo: since lame cannot be included in debian vorbis-tools is recommended |
| 04:10.15 | foo | stew: Thanks |
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| 04:10.25 | pumpitup | boo |
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| 04:11.29 | landslide | if I accidently used rm to delete a file, can i recover it? |
| 04:11.40 | stew | landslide: it depends on the filesystem but probably not |
| 04:11.48 | stew | landslide: ext3? |
| 04:11.56 | maher | landslide: short answer no - long answerif you are on ext2 there may be a chance |
| 04:11.57 | landslide | there is no re-link command? like undelete or something? |
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| 04:12.30 | foo | stew: In grip what encoder type do I select? lame? Or something else? |
| 04:12.31 | saboteur | this is driving me crazy |
| 04:12.33 | saboteur | :( |
| 04:12.34 | rok47 | is the sid kernel image of 2.6.12 coming out soon? the udev package wont' upgrade because it requires 2.6.12 kernelis the sid kernel image of 2.6.12 coming out soon? the udev package wont' upgrade because it requires 2.6.12 kernel |
| 04:12.38 | landslide | yeah ext3... |
| 04:12.43 | stew | landslide: becuase of the way the ext3 journal works its impossible with ext3 |
| 04:12.44 | rok47 | oops sorry double write |
| 04:12.51 | landslide | ok no probs. |
| 04:12.59 | stew | foo: oggenc, but it would create oggs not mp3s |
| 04:13.04 | saboteur | i've created a kernel image with make-kpkg, but this kernel-wedge stuff i can't understand |
| 04:13.08 | stew | foo: debian cannot distribute an mp3 encoder |
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| 04:13.18 | maher | foo: but marillat does |
| 04:13.39 | foo | stew: hmm, I see. |
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| 04:13.49 | maher | saboteur: kernel-wedge? |
| 04:14.01 | saboteur | yeah, for creating a custom installer cd :( |
| 04:14.05 | foo | stew: Out of curiousity, why? |
| 04:14.15 | maher | saboteur: oh - sorry - dunno |
| 04:14.20 | pumpitup | copyrights i supose |
| 04:14.21 | maher | foo: patent issues |
| 04:14.24 | stew | foo: becuase its patented in germany and us |
| 04:14.29 | foo | maher: That's what I thought. |
| 04:14.31 | saboteur | maher: i've patched the debian 2.6.8 kernel to have a HostRAID supported driver |
| 04:15.42 | SharpShooter | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.54 | foo | maher: On the site that I got in pm it said " Yes I know, the FTP server is down. I can do nothing for you, wait." on the news... does this mean it won't work? |
| 04:17.01 | SharpShooter | how stable is etch @ this point i am installing it on 1 box right nope |
| 04:18.25 | rixth | Net split! |
| 04:18.28 | pumpitup | errr for some reason my router doesnt have port forwarding |
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| 04:28.30 | pumpitup_ | arggg anyone in here use a USR8054 router? |
| 04:30.16 | deadcat | no |
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| 04:33.54 | Supaplex | iptables > your router |
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| 04:36.00 | pumpitup_ | i know but i have 4 computers connected on it and 2 wireless.. |
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| 04:36.52 | maher | pumpitup_: google |
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| 04:37.36 | pumpitup_ | yup did hmmm wonder if dmz my lan ip would work |
| 04:37.50 | Frozen-Solid | error while loading shared libraries: libopencdk.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <- i keep getting this error despite libopencdk8 already being installed :( |
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| 04:38.46 | xsdg | Frozen-Solid: tried running `ldconfig`? |
| 04:39.33 | Frozen-Solid | nope. i'll try it now ... |
| 04:40.06 | Frozen-Solid | just ran it. and i'm still getting the error |
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| 04:41.41 | uberNUT | hi ppl |
| 04:41.52 | uberNUT | I'm building a Debian system for resale. Anyone know how to find out what software I can include? ie. Can I sell systems with Java and Flash pre-installed? |
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| 04:43.23 | deadcat | uberNUT: ya |
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| 04:44.41 | uberNUT | thx deadcat, know any docs I can use to prove this for buyer? |
| 04:44.51 | deadcat | no |
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| 04:45.17 | deadcat | aint no one gonna buy a prebuild debian box. better off with some other distro |
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| 04:45.38 | kadigibox | I would |
| 04:45.47 | kadigibox | if its not intel |
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| 04:46.20 | Frozen-Solid | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! <- i get this whenever i use apt-get... anyway to get it to auth? |
| 04:46.33 | Sup3rFly | anyone know of any free software to keep track of our IP addresses/Circuit IDs? Would love a web interface |
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| 04:47.32 | deadcat | Frozen-Solid: man apt-get search for unauth |
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| 04:48.45 | plague | Hey guys im trying to setup an ircd called ircd-hybrid.. i installed it via apt-get install ircd-hybrid. I edited the ircd.conf, and ran ircd-hybrid. When i connect to the server i get this message: --- *** No Ident response --- *** Notice -- You need to install identd to use this server --- Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Install identd) Now i can connect to any other ircd like this one for instance without needing to do anything special, how ca |
| 04:48.45 | plague | n i fix this, i can't see anything in the ircd.conf about identd? |
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| 04:48.47 | uberNUT | deadcat, already have company buying, debian is my preference |
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| 04:49.21 | deadcat | uberNUT: you on your own |
| 04:49.28 | useruser | deadcat: can you disable auth prompting on a per-source basis? |
| 04:50.31 | uberNUT | k, thx deadcat |
| 04:50.57 | foo | hmm, grip throws this: "Invalid encoder executable. Check your encoder config" - any ideas? Kinda vague, heh. |
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| 04:52.32 | mud | link to debian mplayer package that works? |
| 04:52.32 | deadcat | useruser: i doubt, but you can try. |
| 04:52.44 | deadcat | !marillat |
| 04:52.45 | dpkg | well, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
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| 04:53.36 | plague | anyone? |
| 04:53.41 | plague | !ircd-hubrid |
| 04:54.10 | Seb | can anyone tell me if cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/standings crshes their firefox ? |
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| 04:54.49 | ethics | j #ubuntu |
| 04:54.53 | ethics | bah |
| 04:54.58 | rob_lt | not here Seb |
| 04:55.04 | pumpitup_ | Seb : crashed mine |
| 04:55.05 | k-man | anyone know what the alsa drivers for the ADI AD1980 chipset are like? |
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| 04:55.23 | Seb | ethics, pumpitup_ : what versions ? |
| 04:55.45 | Seb | pumpitup_: sorry man :) |
| 04:55.47 | rob_lt | 1.04 here, and it doesn't crash. |
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| 04:55.53 | ethics | k-man check what alsa site says about it ...if it's new then check the release notes for 1.09 |
| 04:55.54 | pumpitup_ | 1.0.5 |
| 04:56.07 | k-man | thanks ethics |
| 04:56.26 | pumpitup_ | thats awfully weird hmmm |
| 04:56.45 | Seb | i have 1.0.4 and it crashes mine |
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| 04:57.14 | karsten | Seb: Firefox? |
| 04:57.17 | Seb | yeah |
| 04:57.22 | ethics | hah apparently one of my bots has timed out hehe |
| 04:57.22 | Seb | gonna file a bug then |
| 04:57.28 | rob_lt | do you have any obscure extensions installed? |
| 04:57.32 | karsten | Seb: There's a 1.0.5 out, not sure if it's in Deb/Unstable yet. |
| 04:57.45 | TNKS | hi all. Is it easy to hook in the execution of a script to a hotplug event (like a usb mouse being plugged in)? |
| 04:57.47 | karsten | Seb: Probably not worth the time. See today's Slashdot post. Or read BTS. |
| 04:57.50 | pumpitup_ | karsten : i have 1.0.5 in unstable and it crashes |
| 04:57.51 | Seb | karsten: pumpitup_'s got it, and it crashes him |
| 04:57.57 | Seb | karsten: huh ? |
| 04:58.03 | karsten | pumpitup_: Ah. NM. |
| 04:58.08 | karsten | Seb: NM. I'm behind. |
| 04:58.09 | Seb | karsten: i thought i read /. today 8) |
| 04:58.24 | ethics | TNKS: yeah hotplug has a cripts area but most of us use gnome-volume -manager |
| 04:58.31 | ethics | so scripts are not needed |
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| 04:58.43 | karsten | TNKS: I think so, check for a foo.d/ directory w/ hotplug stuff... |
| 04:58.44 | Seb | karsten: heh |
| 04:58.55 | coywolf | how to set the xterm backgroud color #FFFFDD? stew |
| 04:58.57 | karsten | TNKS: /etc/hotplug.d/ as it turns out. |
| 04:59.06 | ethics | tnks: i think man hotplug has info too |
| 04:59.07 | karsten | coywolf: man xrdm |
| 04:59.21 | apocolyptic | depian is so slow in a p2 |
| 04:59.27 | karsten | ethics: hotplug has crips? Does it have bloods? nortenos/ |
| 04:59.29 | apocolyptic | *debian |
| 04:59.35 | kyu | Seb: You should update firefox |
| 04:59.38 | Seb | kyu: hah |
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| 04:59.45 | ethics | apocolyptic dont load crap on boot 8) |
| 04:59.46 | karsten | Seb: Have you tried updating firefox? |
| 04:59.50 | karsten | Seb: ;-) |
| 04:59.55 | Seb | kyu: still pumpitup_ has the same pb with 1.0.5 |
| 04:59.57 | Seb | karsten: hah |
| 05:00.06 | TNKS | yeah. I looked at some of that documentation. But it seems that hotplugging can be a little cryptic. |
| 05:00.09 | kyu | I'm using 1.0.5-1 |
| 05:00.26 | plague | anyone? |
| 05:00.32 | ethics | TNKS: i think it needed the exact device model or something ....whats your goal? |
| 05:00.33 | coywolf | KarlosII, i dont' have xrdm! |
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| 05:00.37 | karsten | plague: any time. |
| 05:00.45 | KarlosII | karsten, heh |
| 05:00.46 | kyu | plague: sorry, what was your question? |
| 05:00.52 | KarlosII | coywolf, heh |
| 05:00.56 | plague | Hey guys im trying to setup an ircd called ircd-hybrid.. i installed it via apt-get install ircd-hybrid. I edited the ircd.conf, and ran ircd-hybrid. When i connect to the server i get this message: --- *** No Ident response --- *** Notice -- You need to install identd to use this server --- Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Install identd) Now i can connect to any other ircd like this one for instance without needing to do anything special, how ca |
| 05:00.56 | plague | n i fix this, i can't see anything in the ircd.conf about identd? |
| 05:01.08 | kyu | Ok, well that's defo a config problem |
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| 05:01.25 | plague | there is nothing about identd in ircd.conf |
| 05:01.37 | kyu | I mainly run unreal (which is really horrible by the way) and there's an option for identd |
| 05:01.44 | Grievre | plague: check the ircd.conf for a K:Line for ~*@* |
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| 05:01.51 | pego | hi |
| 05:01.51 | kyu | Perhaps the default value for the option (i.e if it's not specified in the ircd.conf) is on? |
| 05:02.11 | karsten | plague: ...or bug josh kwan. |
| 05:02.15 | coywolf | !search xdm |
| 05:02.21 | Grievre | plague: Or if hybrid uses the new format, look for a ban{} block that has ~*@* as the mask |
| 05:02.23 | plague | karsten, ? |
| 05:02.31 | plague | Grievre, ok hang on |
| 05:02.37 | TNKS | ethics, so when I pull out my usb mouse, gpm kind of dies, and I need to kick start it again. |
| 05:02.44 | pego | i have created an raid1 with one drive for add later another drive and not loose data on the first. but now i don't see how add the second :) i can only add it as spare drive :( |
| 05:02.45 | karsten | plague: The Debian developer. Friend of mine, sometimes. |
| 05:02.53 | kyu | Grievre: What does a kline have to do with the server requesting identd? |
| 05:03.08 | TNKS | ethics. . . if I plug the mouse back in. |
| 05:03.14 | Grievre | kyu: If you don't have ident, it prefixes your username with ~ |
| 05:03.20 | Seb | karsten: where you at ? |
| 05:03.22 | Grievre | a K:Line for ~*@* prevents anyone from going in without identd |
| 05:03.37 | plague | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.37 | plague | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.38 | Grievre | I'm suspicious that this is a seperate option though |
| 05:03.40 | plague | thats in there |
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| 05:03.53 | Grievre | plague: What block is that in? |
| 05:04.04 | plague | auth |
| 05:04.10 | Grievre | check if there are other auth blocks |
| 05:04.13 | Grievre | set it to no in all of them |
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| 05:05.07 | Seb | keikoz: mauvais channel |
| 05:05.16 | karsten | Seb: My computer. |
| 05:05.24 | Seb | karsten: heh, k then |
| 05:05.25 | plague | Grievre, it is set to no in all |
| 05:05.39 | uberNUT | thx all |
| 05:05.40 | karsten | Seb: About 40 mi north of you. |
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| 05:05.47 | Seb | karsten: yeah ? |
| 05:05.47 | fattyao | hi |
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| 05:05.54 | ColonelKernel | !kp |
| 05:05.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 05:05.57 | karsten | Seb: You're in SF, right? |
| 05:06.01 | Seb | karsten: yeah |
| 05:06.06 | fattyao | i have geforce ti4200 |
| 05:06.17 | fattyao | what uh "x" 4 driver? |
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| 05:06.42 | Grievre | plague: did you compile it yourself? |
| 05:06.55 | Seb | fattyao: what language do you usually speak ? |
| 05:07.02 | fattyao | english |
| 05:07.02 | plague | apt-get install ircd-hybrid and i tried the source before with the same problem |
| 05:07.09 | fattyao | but its dark and hard to type |
| 05:07.11 | Grievre | ah :< |
| 05:07.13 | fattyao | and late |
| 05:07.22 | coywolf | how to set the xterm backgroud color to #FFFFDD? |
| 05:07.27 | fattyao | i think thats the card i put in the computer :P |
| 05:07.28 | kyu | Tell me about it, 6:07am!!! |
| 05:07.52 | kyu | It's getting light, that fucking pidgeon has started up again, CHOO COO COO! CHOO COO COO! I wish i had a shotgun.... |
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| 05:08.24 | Seb | kyu: or a cat |
| 05:08.28 | kyu | I could start throwing slackware cds at it |
| 05:08.29 | coywolf | ok, done |
| 05:08.45 | fatnessurround | nvidia.com |
| 05:08.46 | coywolf | stew, i've figured it out. np now |
| 05:08.47 | fatnessurround | it is |
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| 05:08.52 | pego | i want umount /boot but it tell me it is busy but i dunno what can do /boot :/ |
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| 05:09.06 | nichos | is there a way to have wget 'get' all the files linked from an html? |
| 05:09.14 | kyu | pego: .... Why do you want to unmount boot? |
| 05:09.16 | Seb | pego: lsof /boot |
| 05:09.34 | Seb | nichos: -R ? |
| 05:09.40 | pego | kyu: some test |
| 05:10.02 | pego | Seb: klogd :/ |
| 05:10.05 | nichos | seb thats reject list |
| 05:10.08 | kyu | test? :/ Is boot a sep partition to / ? |
| 05:10.10 | Seb | pego: stop that then |
| 05:10.12 | Seb | nichos: ? |
| 05:10.18 | pego | kyu: yes |
| 05:10.19 | nichos | its a plain apache file list that i want to get |
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| 05:10.22 | nichos | seb -R is the "reject list" |
| 05:10.40 | kyu | pego: Ignore the default questions, you wouldn't believe the people who come in here sometimes heh |
| 05:10.48 | Seb | nichos: -r |
| 05:10.56 | pumpitup | ok just finished creating my iptables script err forgot where to put it in...guessing init.d? |
| 05:11.05 | Grievre | mynickisfatbum: Does ircd.conf include anything? Are there other confs? |
| 05:11.16 | plague | Gerriall, loads |
| 05:11.21 | kyu | are you running klogd? |
| 05:11.22 | nichos | seb thats gonna do it, thanks alot |
| 05:11.27 | plague | hrm nm |
| 05:11.29 | plague | i fixed it |
| 05:11.33 | plague | thats real odd |
| 05:11.40 | Seb | nichos: np |
| 05:11.55 | pego | kyu: :)) |
| 05:12.03 | plague | I deleted all of the old ircd e.g the source when i installed from it, but it still had ./ircd process running which i had to kill and didnt realise |
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| 05:12.07 | plague | thanks for the help |
| 05:12.40 | kyu | pego:klogd? |
| 05:12.56 | Seb | pego: well haven't you stopped it yet ? |
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| 05:13.07 | caojun | hello ,everyone ! |
| 05:13.13 | Seb | sup caojun |
| 05:13.20 | kyu | hello ,caojun ~ |
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| 05:13.31 | pego | kyu: yes ? i use it |
| 05:13.46 | kyu | pego: klogd uses /boot/System.map |
| 05:13.46 | mynickisfatbum | uh |
| 05:13.52 | pego | Seb: all is okay my test is finished :) thanks |
| 05:13.53 | kyu | So kill it |
| 05:13.54 | mynickisfatbum | the vidia drivers wont install |
| 05:13.59 | mynickisfatbum | the script suxxors |
| 05:14.05 | mynickisfatbum | i use debian |
| 05:14.06 | pego | kyu: i have restarted it after my test all seeams good |
| 05:14.14 | mynickisfatbum | whats the apt-get for nvidia-kernel modules? |
| 05:14.29 | kyu | mynick: apt-cache search ++ |
| 05:14.44 | Seb | dpkg, tell mynickisfatbum about nvidia |
| 05:14.58 | caojun | toshiba 490xcdt notepad computer can't driver soundcard under Debian (all version),how can i do ? i use it very well under redhat 9.0 |
| 05:15.11 | stew | mynickisfatbum: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 05:15.17 | mynickisfatbum | dpkg, tell me nvidia installer |
| 05:15.23 | mynickisfatbum | dpkg, tell fatbum nvidia installer |
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| 05:15.33 | mynickisfatbum | dpkg, tell mynickisfatbum nvidia installer |
| 05:15.35 | pego | kyu: i have another little question i wanted to copy data partition and system partition to another one and i have tried tar and cpio and both time result wasn't same size :/ |
| 05:15.41 | mynickisfatbum | wtfuors |
| 05:15.46 | Seb | mynickisfatbum: "about" |
| 05:15.47 | mynickisfatbum | tell me loser |
| 05:15.47 | stew | !tell mynickisfatbum about nvidia one-liner |
| 05:15.53 | Seb | mynickisfatbum: you can query the block privately |
| 05:15.55 | Seb | please do so |
| 05:16.03 | Seb | the bot |
| 05:16.05 | Seb | not the block |
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| 05:16.26 | kyu | pego: I can't say i've ever done that, sorry :/ |
| 05:17.03 | pego | kyu: okay thx |
| 05:17.10 | Seb | pego: you can use dd to cpy data between 2 partitions of the same size |
| 05:17.26 | pego | ANyone know what is the best way to copy data from partition to another and be sure all is ok ? |
| 05:17.38 | pego | Seb: they an't same size :( |
| 05:17.47 | Seb | caojun: well what module does it use with redhat ? |
| 05:17.49 | karsten | pego: tar |
| 05:18.02 | xsdg | pego: on the same box? I'd go with rsync |
| 05:18.04 | stew | pego: tar | cpio | rsync |
| 05:18.07 | pego | karsten: i have did that but result and source an't the same size :( |
| 05:18.20 | xsdg | stew: tar? cpio? why? |
| 05:18.27 | karsten | pego: ^^ stew |
| 05:18.34 | valdyn | pego: b/c you are using 2 different filesystem types? |
| 05:18.36 | karsten | pego: rsync should be the fastest way to sort out the bodies. |
| 05:18.44 | xsdg | stew: oh; is that "tar || cpio || rsync"? |
| 05:18.52 | stew | xsdg: yeah |
| 05:18.56 | Seb | heh |
| 05:19.01 | caojun | sb16 |
| 05:19.03 | karsten | pego: ...and there are a few reasons why there might be minor differences overall. Files themselves should be the same. |
| 05:19.05 | xsdg | stew: heh, thought you were piping from tar to cpio, and then to rsync :oP |
| 05:19.11 | caojun | Seb, sb16 |
| 05:19.11 | stew | heh, no |
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| 05:19.17 | karsten | xsdg: '||' == "or" |
| 05:19.21 | Seb | caojun: well what happens when you try to load this one now ? |
| 05:19.24 | karsten | xsdg: '&&' == "and" |
| 05:19.31 | stew | == == equals |
| 05:19.39 | karsten | stew++ |
| 05:19.56 | pego | karsten: ho but how can i be sure :/ |
| 05:20.00 | karsten | xsdg: ... in many coding langauges. Used sometimes in speech... |
| 05:20.08 | xsdg | karsten: ... |
| 05:20.08 | Seb | pego: use diff -r |
| 05:20.11 | Seb | or is it -R |
| 05:20.11 | pego | valdyn: yes reiserfs and ext3 |
| 05:20.15 | karsten | pego: ^^ |
| 05:20.21 | xsdg | karsten: (05.18.03) < stew> pego: tar | cpio | rsync |
| 05:20.31 | pego | Seb: oki i ll try |
| 05:20.32 | stew | pego: how are you measuring the sizes? |
| 05:20.32 | xsdg | karsten: I was aware of that already |
| 05:20.48 | valdyn | pego: you cant use df for that, you cant use du for comparison either.. |
| 05:20.53 | karsten | xsdg: Same thing. '|' == "or" in that usage. English isn't a compiled langauge. |
| 05:20.53 | pego | stew: du :/ |
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| 05:21.10 | karsten | stew: Careful, you may not want to know ;-) |
| 05:21.12 | caojun | Seb, I can load it ,but it can't work ! under Redhat i change the i/o addrs , i don't know how to do under Debian ? |
| 05:21.17 | pego | valdyn: ho ? diff fs so iff size ? |
| 05:21.20 | stew | pego: that is not necessarily going to be the same |
| 05:21.23 | xsdg | karsten: err... ::shrug:: |
| 05:21.31 | Seb | caojun: how do oyu do it with redhat ? |
| 05:21.36 | karsten | xsdg: ipv6 ;-) |
| 05:21.36 | Seb | caojun: make an effort man |
| 05:21.38 | valdyn | pego: particularilyt with reiserfs, yea |
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| 05:22.19 | xdsg | karsten: :o) |
| 05:22.22 | karsten | caojun: man modprobe. You can specify i/o and irq args on the command line or in /etc/modutils/ |
| 05:22.24 | caojun | Seb, i do it with command "sndconf" |
| 05:22.28 | karsten | caojun: s/modutils/modules/ |
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| 05:22.44 | pego | valdyn Seb stew karsten : thanks |
| 05:22.50 | karsten | xdsg: ::shrug:: |
| 05:23.15 | caojun | thanks for everyone ! thanks a lot. i will try it now ! |
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| 05:23.28 | welson | anyone here who takes care of tightvnc server? |
| 05:23.41 | deadcat | no |
| 05:23.43 | Seb | welson: do you have an actual question ? |
| 05:23.44 | karsten | caojun: man insmod, BTW, for io/irq. |
| 05:23.55 | karsten | !tellw welson about ask |
| 05:24.03 | xdsg | karsten: you're totalling confusing me. I got your joke, which is why I responded with a v6 client |
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| 05:24.31 | karsten | xdsg: confusion is a three-edged sword. |
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| 05:24.42 | caojun | karsten, thank you very much ! |
| 05:24.45 | Seb | heheheh |
| 05:24.52 | welson | mind me asking? is selinux something that will come into debian? |
| 05:25.10 | karsten | caojun: NP |
| 05:25.15 | Seb | welson: how is it not in ? you mean by default ? |
| 05:25.24 | stew | pego: for instance, do this: echo "a" > /tmp/blah ; du -h /tmp/blah; you might find you get different answers on different filesystems. and the answer will probably be much bigger than you expect |
| 05:25.46 | caojun | karsten, what 's "NP"? |
| 05:25.52 | karsten | welson: apt-cache search selinux. IIRC it's sort of an add-on module, I'd strongly suggest reading the docs closely and/or discussion. |
| 05:25.55 | karsten | caojun: No problem. |
| 05:25.59 | welson | Seb: yeah, actually that's what I meant-- is it worth turning it on? |
| 05:26.06 | karsten | caojun: ... or a negative-positive junction. |
| 05:26.11 | bucky | welson, it's in the 2.6 kernel |
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| 05:26.38 | Seb | welson: it's a real effort to make it work the way you need. If you ask, you probably don't need it. |
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| 05:26.51 | pego | stew: damn 4k ! |
| 05:27.08 | stew | pego: smallest file you can create is 1 inode |
| 05:27.17 | pego | stew: ho |
| 05:27.26 | karsten | pego: ... WRT stew's comment, largely having to do with the FS's blocksize. Files are actually _allocated_ in integer values of blocksize, regardless of the bit content of the file itself. |
| 05:27.30 | welson | Seb: its complex enough given that one can even use acl.. |
| 05:27.35 | karsten | stew: inode != blocksize. |
| 05:27.40 | stew | oh right |
| 05:27.53 | stew | what karsten said |
| 05:28.09 | deadcat | i've decided to allow only 15 ssh connections from 1 ip within 5 minutes. |
| 05:28.18 | stew | karsten: uhh keep that to yourself :P |
| 05:28.34 | pego | :) |
| 05:28.40 | karsten | stew: Phhbbth! |
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| 05:29.26 | karsten | pego: FWIW, inodes are the entries on the filesystem for file or directory entries. You can get inode info with FS dump/info utilities. |
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| 05:30.16 | ninja_ | simonrvn: :P |
| 05:30.43 | caojun | karsten, so long time , i run alsaconf to try it ! |
| 05:30.54 | karsten | caojun: Luck... |
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| 05:31.41 | pego | karsten: i write that down and check later. need make my transfert :/ and try playing with rsync for verify (if i manage to it) :) |
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| 05:32.45 | Seb | damn this channel is dead tonight |
| 05:32.59 | caojun | karsten, it tell me "Probing legacy ISA cards migt make your system unstable " should i accept it? |
| 05:33.06 | Seb | caojun: yes |
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| 05:33.32 | exobyte | ipchains is on my system. How well do ipchains and iptables play together (they're both on my system) |
| 05:33.46 | Seb | exobyte: you pick one of the 2 |
| 05:33.50 | Seb | exobyte: iptables |
| 05:33.55 | Seb | exobyte: and remove the other one |
| 05:34.01 | exobyte | Seb: ahh.. ok |
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| 05:36.00 | felipe_ | with iptables you can do whatever ipchais do, i think.. |
| 05:36.00 | felipe_ | its a question of rulesets |
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| 05:36.38 | exobyte | what package is dos2unix in? |
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| 05:36.45 | caojun | Seb, it tell me "Shall i try all possible DMA and IRQ combinations? With this option,some unconventional configuration might be found ,but it will take much longer time ." should i accept it ? |
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| 05:37.14 | Seb | caojun: yes |
| 05:37.45 | Seb | heh |
| 05:37.48 | Supaplex | exobyte: type /msg dpkg search |
| 05:37.57 | graeme | any trouble with X.org today? I'm doing an upgrade right now. Should i really expect breakage? |
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| 05:38.11 | Seb | graeme: how about checking the bts ? |
| 05:38.14 | htet | i have installed and old creative sound card on my debian box, my motherboard has built in sound card and the OS find it automatically when i installed it, how can I make the OS see and use the Creative sound card |
| 05:38.15 | deadcat | graeme: everything is fine now. just dist-upograde |
| 05:38.20 | karsten | graeme: apt-get install rubber-chicken |
| 05:38.27 | graeme | Seb, what's a bts? |
| 05:38.32 | Supaplex | !bts |
| 05:38.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 05:38.40 | caojun | Seb, i accept it ,and then out a box "result " only have ok butto on it ! and nothing tell me ! |
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| 05:39.02 | Seb | caojun: try command-line wish insmod then. man insmod. |
| 05:39.08 | Supaplex | !shoot graeme on sight |
| 05:39.12 | felipe_ | htet disable your on board audio on BIOS |
| 05:39.18 | Supaplex | hahaa |
| 05:39.22 | Seb | deadcat: that wasn't nice :> |
| 05:39.30 | Supaplex | nice timeing :-D |
| 05:39.34 | graeme | i've come to expect this. |
| 05:39.56 | stew | graeme: you should expect breakage |
| 05:40.04 | deadcat | Seb: ? its fine here .(= everything is good to go after dist-upgrade. those nvidia-glx and xine problems are fixed |
| 05:40.04 | Seb | !sid |
| 05:40.04 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 05:40.04 | htet | felipe so the Debian OS will see it automatically? |
| 05:40.26 | Seb | graeme: see the one before the last one ? |
| 05:40.28 | graeme | skill and/or tenacity |
| 05:40.31 | jm_ | htet: hotplug might pick it up if it's a PCI card |
| 05:40.45 | htet | it is PCI card |
| 05:40.55 | jm_ | and it doesn't detect it? |
| 05:40.55 | felipe_ | htet load the kernel module for your creative card sound |
| 05:41.01 | jm_ | then load the module manually |
| 05:41.04 | AlphaAlien | pie |
| 05:41.12 | htet | how can I do that? i m not that good |
| 05:41.25 | stew | !wikifaq htet UseSoundCard |
| 05:41.26 | dpkg | htet: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 05:41.40 | Seb | htet: you do run a debian kernel image right ? |
| 05:41.48 | htet | thx guys |
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| 05:42.25 | htet | what do u mean debian kernel image, i have recompile my kernel following instruction from website |
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| 05:42.40 | jm_ | well doh |
| 05:42.43 | Seb | htet: you need to run a debian kernel image. apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 05:42.43 | stew | htet: why? |
| 05:43.29 | stew | htet: unless you have a good reason not to use a debian kernel image, you should use one |
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| 05:44.07 | htet | i m in between, i m not totally newbie while i m still newbie :D |
| 05:44.17 | Seb | stew: heh, I do have one :> no dma in 2.6.1[01] with the debian images... |
| 05:44.20 | tarzeau | any way to hide a process from ps ? |
| 05:44.28 | Seb | htet: newbies more than others need ot run the Debian kernel images |
| 05:44.37 | htet | ok |
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| 05:44.59 | htet | ok how can i run kernel image? |
| 05:45.00 | ValheruLord | how can i make gcc 3.4 default |
| 05:45.02 | pego | my english is bad anyone can confirm that --dry-run show what would have been transferred for rsync is just a simulation of the transfer ? |
| 05:45.16 | htet | i have 2.6.10 kernel now |
| 05:45.22 | Seb | pego: yes |
| 05:45.23 | stew | pego: correct |
| 05:45.28 | stew | pego: what is your native language? |
| 05:45.33 | pego | stew: thx french |
| 05:45.38 | Seb | haha joli |
| 05:45.46 | stew | pego: apt-get install manpages-fr |
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| 05:45.50 | deadcat | ValheruLord: update-alternatives |
| 05:45.56 | cunumen | I've been using the main etch archive along with the stable non-us one, but would switching to the sarge non-us work just as well or screw things up? |
| 05:46.06 | pego | stew: ho |
| 05:46.14 | welson | why /etc/default? isn't /etc/ conffiles good enough? |
| 05:46.30 | Seb | cunumen: you want to downgrade ? |
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| 05:46.55 | jaime_alberto | hi everybody! Does anyone knows about some good channel for palm os development? here or at other server |
| 05:46.56 | Seb | welson: /etc/default usually is for the init.d scripts |
| 05:47.01 | BlackFrog | is there a guide or howto or something that shows some things to achieve a faster boot time |
| 05:47.03 | cunumen | seb, no, i mean to be a bit more current with the non-us, unless there's an etch version of that i've missed? |
| 05:47.06 | catalyst | After upgraded to Xorg from sid, I can't switch VT using ctrl+alt_f1-f5 from X, what could be goes wrong on xorg.conf? |
| 05:47.15 | Seb | !non-us |
| 05:47.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, non-us is where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see ... |
| 05:47.28 | welson | Seb: is it more largely for debugging or..? |
| 05:47.37 | caojun | Seb, modprobe snd-sb16 it tell me "Error inserting snd_sb16(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16.ko):No such device " |
| 05:47.42 | Seb | welson: not, it's for init.d scripts |
| 05:47.55 | Seb | welson: i'd swear i had just mentioned that |
| 05:47.58 | welson | Seb: I know its for those scripts.. |
| 05:48.23 | cunumen | ooh nifty, thanks seb |
| 05:48.24 | Seb | welson: so, the connection to "debugging" is... ? |
| 05:48.29 | welson | Seb: I guess I never have to touch those and just bother with update-rc.d eh? |
| 05:48.30 | Seb | cunumen: np |
| 05:48.51 | Seb | welson: maybe. You haven't stated what you're doing yet. |
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| 05:49.00 | caojun | Huahua, are you here ? |
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| 05:49.15 | welson | Seb: I don't believe /etc/default was always there, this is something new eh? |
| 05:49.17 | htet | damn, that was fast, i got sound now even with alsa which i fail to use before :) |
| 05:49.25 | Seb | welson: no |
| 05:49.38 | deadcat | welson: always there.. you just dont know |
| 05:49.43 | Seb | htet: there |
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| 05:50.46 | htet | i have installed it alsa before but don't know how to load it, i read the link u guys give me and just run alsaconf, that's all ,thx guys |
| 05:50.50 | caojun | Seb, modprobe snd-sb16 it tell me "Error inserting snd_sb16(/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16.ko):No such device " |
| 05:51.15 | Seb | caojun: then either it's not the right module, or you need some i/o params |
| 05:51.30 | welson | deadcat: right |
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| 05:51.51 | caojun | Seb, thanks ,but how i give it i/o params? |
| 05:51.58 | Seb | caojun: man insmod |
| 05:52.00 | jair | hey guys, |
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| 05:52.46 | stew | caojun: does discover not detect it? |
| 05:52.52 | caojun | Seb, insmod is only one page on my system , |
| 05:52.52 | litage | i ran `hostname client1` to change the name of my box, but why does /etc/hostname still have the old name? |
| 05:53.09 | jair | I have a external hard drive with the mbr destroyed, it is any Linux utility that can help me to recover all the files in the disk or at least create a new mbr on the external hard drive? |
| 05:53.09 | stew | caojun: does it show up in lspci? |
| 05:53.15 | Seb | litage: man hostname |
| 05:53.27 | Seb | jair: knoppix |
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| 05:53.35 | Seb | hrm nm |
| 05:53.37 | stew | litage: run hostname > /etc/hostname |
| 05:53.37 | caojun | stew, it's a ISA soundcard |
| 05:53.48 | caojun | stew, thank you ! |
| 05:53.48 | welson | jair: testdisk can try to do something.. |
| 05:53.50 | jair | Seb, ok but what utility I should use? |
| 05:54.02 | Seb | stew: or even better, read man hostname ;) |
| 05:54.07 | jair | welson, testdisk it is a linux application? |
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| 05:54.17 | felipe_ | jair gpart |
| 05:54.18 | welson | jair: y, its console |
| 05:54.36 | BlackFrog | jaime_alberto: #palm on efnet (tho not dev-specific, there are some devvrs there |
| 05:54.38 | jair | ohhh ok I will check those out |
| 05:54.47 | jair | felipe_, thank you |
| 05:54.50 | felipe_ | gpart is a nice program which lets you guess lost parttions |
| 05:54.51 | jair | welson, cool |
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| 05:55.00 | jair | felipe_, good |
| 05:55.02 | welson | jair: testdisk has worked for repairing the partition table, I don't think it fixes the bootcode.. |
| 05:55.12 | jair | ohh ok |
| 05:55.14 | felipe_ | jair :), gpart saved me the life, months ago |
| 05:55.18 | jm_ | jair: reinstall your boot loader of choice on it |
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| 05:55.37 | jair | if I can repaired the mbr will be great save a lot of time but the crucial goal is recover the data |
| 05:55.42 | stew | jair: just boot with a rescue/install/live cd and reinstall the bootloader |
| 05:56.09 | jair | stew, any how to or tutorial that can point me to??? |
| 05:56.15 | litage | thanks stew |
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| 05:56.18 | welson | jair: testdisk cannot recover the data, if its just the mbr that's corrupted then that's ok you lost no data |
| 05:56.43 | jair | I have never reinstall grub or a mbr or anything like that before, but I am creasy to do it. |
| 05:57.06 | welson | jair: make use of the find cmd with grub |
| 05:57.07 | stew | jair: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 05:57.26 | stew | jair: do you have a separate boot partition? |
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| 05:58.20 | stew | hopefully he's not confusing mbr with superblock |
| 05:59.58 | jair | stew, nope I am talking about the mbr |
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| 06:00.48 | welson | jair: zeroing out the mbr is not bad :)..your data doesn't reside there and starts much later as the filesystem |
| 06:00.58 | pego | with diff i have thing like File /mnt/test3/dev/ida/c2d7p10 is a block special file while file /dev/ida/c2d7p10 is a block special file |
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| 06:01.29 | jair | stew, the thing is this: this external hd was formated as vfat (fat32) and it was connected to back up some files in a windows computer, what happen is that after the person made the back up forgot to disconnect the external hard drive and though that was second internal hd. |
| 06:02.33 | welson | jair: so you formatted it uh? wow that's helpful.. |
| 06:02.38 | jair | when he realized that he just scape from the partitioning process of the windows and restart |
| 06:02.51 | jair | welson, nop thank god |
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| 06:03.01 | jair | welson, the drive was not formatted |
| 06:03.06 | welson | jair: that's a #windows problem |
| 06:03.08 | jair | the mbr was deleted |
| 06:03.19 | Coag | hello, there is debian netinstall that fits on a floppy right? |
| 06:03.34 | jair | nope i just need the data and want to recover it with linux |
| 06:03.38 | welson | jair: if it was a quick format, you might be able to recover it |
| 06:04.07 | stew | caojun: /msg dpkg sarge floppies |
| 06:04.16 | stew | Coag: ^^^ |
| 06:04.22 | welson | jair: in this case, testdisk does a pretty good job to tell you if it was a quick format or not.. |
| 06:04.22 | Coag | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.35 | jair | Coag, http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s02.html.en |
| 06:04.57 | Coag | yes, thank you |
| 06:05.07 | jair | Coag, check this information, it will tell you about the three or 4 floppies you will need. |
| 06:05.18 | Coag | im watning to set up debian on a machine that cannot boot directly off cd's |
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| 06:05.44 | welson | Coag: mind me asking, does it have a disk drive? |
| 06:05.49 | Coag | yes it does |
| 06:05.53 | QUACH-VU | hi can someone tell me how to check log of all connection into SSH ? |
| 06:06.06 | welson | Coag: you can try smart boot disk |
| 06:06.07 | stew | QUACH-VU: /var/log/auth.log |
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| 06:06.17 | deadcat | QUACH-VU: grep sshd /var/log/auth.log |
| 06:06.29 | nvz | man I am so damn drunk adn somehow I logged in on the first ttry |
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| 06:06.46 | stew | nvz: what password did you use? |
| 06:06.51 | nvz | my buddy said he hasnt seen my eyes in the past hour |
| 06:06.51 | stew | :P |
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| 06:07.02 | jair | welson, I did try a third party program call undelete and I was able of see mostly of the data, but I would like to know if linux have something that can check the data on it and allow me to transfer it to another storage device. |
| 06:07.04 | ValheruLord | hi all. i symlinked gcc to a wrong file but i don't know it now.. how can i set gcc 3.4 to /usr/bin/gcc with alternatives.. pls helppp.... my gcc is not working |
| 06:07.05 | nvz | stew: I am almost drunk enough to tell you what it is.. heh |
| 06:07.35 | stew | 18:41 < nvz> If'n I come back later you probably dont want to ask me anything.. cause I will probably be shitfaced |
| 06:07.40 | stew | flw |
| 06:07.46 | nvz | haha |
| 06:07.48 | litage | when i go to http://localhost:631 cups lists 2 printers "HP ... on bluebox". bluebox is another machine on my lan. why would those 2 printers show up for me? |
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| 06:07.53 | nvz | I am past shitfased |
| 06:07.55 | welson | jair: I have no clue what you're doing, you said someon formatted it.. but if it was quick you may have not lost much at all.. |
| 06:08.10 | nvz | I cant believe I can type |
| 06:08.28 | jm_ | litage: CUPS can discover printers on LAN |
| 06:08.40 | ValheruLord | hi all. i symlinked gcc to a wrong file but i don't know it now.. how can i set gcc 3.4 to /usr/bin/gcc with alternatives.. pls helppp.... my gcc is not working |
| 06:08.42 | graeme | nvz can and should are two completely different things |
| 06:08.48 | welson | ValheruLord: man update-alternatives |
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| 06:09.08 | litage | jm_: that's snazzy, but why does it say "printer_name on other_machine" rather than just "printer_name"? |
| 06:09.16 | jair | welson, right |
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| 06:09.25 | nvz | I just had to walk over to the dor and spit outside the pure alcohol I just regurgitated |
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| 06:09.54 | nvz | I was the asshoole all night.. got my ass whipped in cards |
| 06:10.02 | jm_ | litage: well I suppose it does that because it was added automatically so that you're aware it's a remote printer |
| 06:10.19 | stew | nvz: were you actually playing the game "asshole"? |
| 06:10.22 | nvz | luckily I got water and poptarts and IRC now |
| 06:10.32 | litage | jm_: the printers aren't attached to bluebox though..they're hooked up to the switch |
| 06:10.48 | nvz | I played more games that I know |
| 06:11.00 | jm_ | litage: but maybe they're configured in CUPS running on blueblox? |
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| 06:11.23 | mwilson | ValheruLord: So undo whatever it was that you did. gcc isn't controlled by the alternatives system. |
| 06:11.25 | litage | jm_: not sure what you mean |
| 06:11.41 | nvz | I can barely even aim the poptart at my mouth |
| 06:11.54 | Coag | hmmm |
| 06:12.41 | Seb | mwilson: someone actually told him to use the alternatives system :> |
| 06:12.41 | Coag | would a bios update possibly make a machine able to boot form cd? |
| 06:12.41 | mwilson | ValheruLord: What would lead you to think you needed to mess with the symlink in the first place? |
| 06:12.41 | ValheruLord | mwilson: what is the right file to symlink gcc to? |
| 06:12.41 | mwilson | Seb: Yes, and some people are morons, too. |
| 06:12.41 | welson | Coag: possibly |
| 06:12.41 | ValheruLord | mwilson: i wanna symlink it to gcc 3.4 |
| 06:12.43 | jm_ | litage: check CUPS configuration to see if the printers are configured on bluebox |
| 06:12.46 | Seb | ValheruLord: why not apt-get install --reinstall gcc |
| 06:12.48 | Coag | how does one go about a bios update on a 60mhz Pentium with no internet connection |
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| 06:13.05 | mwilson | ValheruLord: As I said, undo whatever it was that you did in the first place. And no, you don't want to symlink it to gcc 3.4... you have no reason to do that. If you think you do, you are mistaken. |
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| 06:13.20 | deadcat | mwilson: any new screenshots? |
| 06:13.20 | jair | thank you guys |
| 06:13.23 | jair | :0 |
| 06:13.43 | mwilson | deadcat: Huh? I've not changed the look of my machine in well over a year. |
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| 06:13.57 | Seb | mwilson: mod case ? |
| 06:14.10 | mwilson | Seb: Whatever that's supposed to mean. |
| 06:14.20 | nvz | is there a rube golberg bios upgrade factoid.. heh |
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| 06:14.40 | ValheruLord | Seb: tried reinstaling and also purge and installing too |
| 06:14.43 | litage | jm_: cups is running on bluebox.. |
| 06:14.51 | jm_ | litage: of course it is |
| 06:14.55 | Seb | ValheruLord: so CC=gcc3.4 make ... is not an option for you ? |
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| 06:15.06 | welson | Coag: use the smart bootdisk, you should be able to boot from the cd thereon |
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| 06:15.10 | stew | Coag: you are going to have a hard time convincing me you don't have an internet connection |
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| 06:15.26 | mwilson | ValheruLord: Why is it so hard to simply reverse whatever it was that you did to break it? |
| 06:15.33 | Coag | stew, alternate machine |
| 06:15.51 | stew | Coag: alternate machine doesn't have a floppy drive? |
| 06:15.57 | Coag | welson, it currently has an os, how do i update the bios though? |
| 06:15.59 | nvz | work is gonna suck tomorrow..what a monday// I dont think I was this drunk when I drank that 5th of imported tequilla on casey's 21st birthday :P |
| 06:16.06 | Coag | stew it does |
| 06:16.21 | Area-51 | Does anyone know of some facial regonition software or some piece of software to compare to two facial pics together to see if they match? |
| 06:16.37 | stew | Coag: do i need to connect the dots for you? |
| 06:16.46 | litage | jm_: when i go to http://bluebox:631 and try to cancel jobs or modify a printer, how can i get around the "403 forbidden"? |
| 06:16.56 | Seb | nvz: heh, want a spliff to top it up ? |
| 06:17.06 | Coag | stew: i do not even have a clew on how to get a hold on bios updates |
| 06:17.13 | welson | Coag: how do you update your bios? google it |
| 06:17.19 | mwilson | litage: You mean other than by actually configuring CUPS correctly? |
| 06:17.19 | jm_ | litage: ssh bluebox ; su - ; lynx http://localhost:631/ |
| 06:17.24 | nvz | Seb: I am lucky that poptart made it into my mouth |
| 06:17.33 | QUACH-VU | hi can someone tell me how to check log of all connection into SSH ( included IP of connection) ? |
| 06:17.37 | nvz | the water is helping :P |
| 06:17.38 | Seb | nvz: heh |
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| 06:18.39 | jm_ | litage: you can also use lp tools to list the printers or just check /etc/cups/printers.conf |
| 06:19.20 | nvz | my friends hooked me up.. they turned another fan on me, and kept ruffing me up and talking to me about things often.. kept me from zoning out and getting sick.. heh I probably did have my eyes closes sweating profusely for a few hours 8-P |
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| 06:20.41 | nvz | even knew when it was time for me to walk my drunk ass back across the street and annoy pepople on irc.. heh |
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| 06:21.26 | dan2_ | ~test |
| 06:21.26 | apt | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
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| 06:21.37 | nvz | I havent seen beta3 in a minute |
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| 06:22.01 | nvz | I remember when he first started comming here.. |
| 06:22.13 | ABRAXAS77 | when i do apt-get install kde shall install the last version? |
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| 06:22.34 | nvz | ABRAXAS77: latest in your sources anyhow |
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| 06:22.49 | nvz | ABRAXAS77: 3.4 isnt in debian that I know of |
| 06:22.49 | ABRAXAS77 | nvz, me no, i installed 1 disc |
| 06:22.56 | ABRAXAS77 | uh |
| 06:22.59 | pego | stew: so for big data transfert (like 150go) rsync ? tar ? cp ? :/ |
| 06:23.11 | teufel | dc_relay_nets='192.168.1.0/24' |
| 06:23.20 | teufel | I have exim4 set up so that anyone on my network can check mail and send out mail via SMTP. I have the line: dc_relay_nets='192.168.1.0/24' and I was wondering what it needs to be to open it up to everyone |
| 06:23.45 | ABRAXAS77 | nvz, u r right |
| 06:23.52 | mwilson | teufel: You *want* to create an open relay? |
| 06:24.03 | nvz | oh I knos I zm drunk.. heh |
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| 06:24.29 | teufel | mwilson: I guess... if that's what it's called. Does that mean I probably just leave it blank right? I remember localhost was just for the machine and this was just for the network |
| 06:24.44 | mwilson | <sigh> |
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| 06:24.49 | jm_ | teufel: no-one in their right mind will help you configure it like that |
| 06:24.55 | stew | pego: shouldn't matter much, i always use rsync for that type of thing out of habbit |
| 06:24.55 | mwilson | And people wonder why spam is the problem it is. |
| 06:25.00 | Seb | mwilson: :D |
| 06:25.19 | teufel | jm_ why? |
| 06:25.24 | nvz | I am amazed that I can type this good.. its just because I am slowed down a lot.. I keep fixing typos even though the letters are spinning arond and IO cant think straight.. heh |
| 06:25.33 | pego | stew:: i just managed to use rsync with ssh but i m in local so thee isn't a simplier way ? |
| 06:25.35 | jm_ | teufel: because we don't want another lame box serving as open relay for spammers |
| 06:25.53 | peterS | pego: rsync between two local directories? just type them both as local directories |
| 06:26.04 | teufel | jm_ well they still have to have a password and login to send/receive mail right? |
| 06:26.14 | pego | peterS: i get error hol ond |
| 06:26.16 | welson | pego: scp |
| 06:26.18 | mwilson | teufel: They do? Since when? |
| 06:26.21 | nvz | I got a box here that was probably on its way to being an open relay. |
| 06:26.23 | jm_ | teufel: that depends on your configuration |
| 06:26.36 | nvz | its banned from my MAC list |
| 06:26.41 | jm_ | teufel: if you didn't configure it for SMTP auth then they don't |
| 06:26.44 | Seb | welson: come on |
| 06:27.05 | nvz | damn windows mchnes are a pain in the nuts |
| 06:27.08 | welson | Seb: :) |
| 06:27.22 | Area-51 | Does anyone know of some facial regonition software or some piece of software to compare to two facial pics together to see if they match? |
| 06:27.29 | teufel | jm_ mwilson I'm sure it does, when I try to get or send mail with outlook or thunderbird a password box pops up, I just want to be able to use thunderbird anywhere |
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| 06:27.34 | ttick | Anyone know what might have changed with C or pmake so that after changing a file in my codebase pmake keeps thinking it needs to recompile that file on every run? (Just wondering if this is a debian thing (running etch)) |
| 06:27.58 | mwilson | teufel: What does that have to do with exim, or sending mail in general? Other than nothing, of course. |
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| 06:28.06 | pego | peterS: rsync -avz /mnt/test/data/tempo/ /home/data/tempo/ seams good ? |
| 06:28.18 | nvz | Area-51: even most photo viewers can compare photos.. like by palette..etc like gqview |
| 06:28.34 | peterS | pego: the -z won't do anything - rsync isn't talking across a network |
| 06:28.41 | nvz | facial just sounds dirty to me right now.. heh |
| 06:28.53 | teufel | mwilson: well what I'm saying is that if I open it up so that anyone can send mail via my mailserver IF they have user name and password |
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| 06:28.55 | pego | peterS: k |
| 06:28.58 | pego | peterS: thx |
| 06:29.00 | peterS | pego: other than that, it looks fine |
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| 06:29.09 | Area-51 | nvz: yea but im looking for more facial comparason not just palette because i see two people in two pics that i think look similar and i want to see if they can be matched somehow |
| 06:29.10 | mwilson | teufel: So what you're actually saying is that you're providing mail services, but you have no idea how to administer a mail server, or indeed how mail works at all. |
| 06:29.12 | Grievre | teufel: oh, pop-before-smtp |
| 06:29.20 | teufel | mwilson: that is what I wan to do that is... the dc_relay_nets fields in update-exim4.conf.conf controls who can use SMTP |
| 06:29.24 | jasoncohen | the bttv module in etch's 2.6.11 kernel doesn't load properly |
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| 06:29.33 | jasoncohen | i get "FATAL: Error inserting bttv (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)" |
| 06:29.34 | ttick | Ah, figured it out, for some reason CVS time-stamped my stuff in the future (remote CVS). |
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| 06:29.37 | Grievre | teufel: People should really use the SMTP server of the ISP they're using at the time |
| 06:29.41 | Grievre | teufel: no matter where their mail account is |
| 06:29.50 | nvz | Area-51: see the famous last words of nvz, who is drunk as all hell tonight.. heh |
| 06:29.51 | pego | peterS: rsync seems quite slow no ? |
| 06:29.51 | jm_ | ttick: that's a common problem |
| 06:29.53 | peterS | jasoncohen: "see dmesg" means run "dmesg | tail" to get more details, like what the symbol is |
| 06:29.56 | teufel | Grievre: I have it to forward to my isp's SMTP to go out |
| 06:29.58 | litage | jm_: on my local machine, `grep bluebox /etc/cups/*` returns nothing, and printers.conf and printers.conf.0 are empty, so i'm confused as to where cups is finding this "HP .. on bluebox" |
| 06:29.59 | mwilson | Hm, gravity been around tonight? |
| 06:30.02 | stew | Grievre: unless their domain publishes an spf record |
| 06:30.06 | Grievre | teufel: you don't get it |
| 06:30.09 | Grievre | stew: hm? |
| 06:30.14 | jasoncohen | peterS, i know - bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
| 06:30.20 | mwilson | litage: Your remote server is broadcasting it, of course. |
| 06:30.27 | jm_ | litage: read CUPS docs, it can discover other CUPS systems on a LAN using broadcasts |
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| 06:30.49 | welson | pego: if they're both local you can also use cp :) |
| 06:30.52 | mwilson | jm_: Another one who can't be bothered to learn how to use the tools, huh? |
| 06:30.54 | litage | ah, thanks guys |
| 06:30.58 | jm_ | mwilson: yes |
| 06:30.59 | stew | Grievre: if your domain published an spf record and you send me mail from whatever isp you happen to be connected to, my spam filters would killfile the mail |
| 06:30.59 | jasoncohen | i also had trouble compiling the ivtv driver with the 2.6.11-1-386 kernel-headers. i needed to use the 2.6.11-1-1 headers |
| 06:31.17 | Grievre | stew: ah |
| 06:31.21 | teufel | Grievre: I guess not, I can use my ISP's SMTP as a smarthost correct? |
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| 06:31.28 | peterS | jasoncohen: so, those symbols look like they ought to appear in the tveeprom module... |
| 06:31.29 | deadcat | would be nice if when ever the topic gets change it emails me the /topic (= |
| 06:31.32 | Grievre | teufel: what's a smarthost |
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| 06:31.50 | Seb | Grievre: well now *you* don't get it |
| 06:31.59 | ke6isf | !smarthost |
| 06:31.59 | dpkg | from memory, smarthost is an SMTP relay. Mail-Administrator-HOWTO is at tldp.org |
| 06:32.19 | pego | welson: i have hear that cp isn't very very good |
| 06:32.24 | teufel | Grievre: a mail server that is trusted =P |
| 06:32.25 | Seb | nvz: the horizontal position *will* be challenging |
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| 06:32.38 | _blue | evening everyone...i have a question for you all quickly |
| 06:32.40 | peterS | jasoncohen: indeed, 'nm /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-k7/kernel/drivers/media/video/tveeprom.ko' confirms this |
| 06:32.43 | mwilson | ke6isf: There you go, expecting them to actually READ again. |
| 06:32.46 | welson | pego: well it depends on how much comparisons have to be made |
| 06:32.46 | deconvolution | hi, my eterm is using a font called -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal but I cannot find it throught gnome-font selector. How do I know where the fonts listed in gnome font selector are located in which file? |
| 06:32.58 | jasoncohen | peterS, what do i do? |
| 06:32.59 | _blue | what is a decent backup tool that allows you to backup to a compressed iso, but also comes with a tool to resture that iso |
| 06:33.06 | ke6isf | mwilson: Hey, it's how *I* learned, it's how *they* should learn, right? =^_^= |
| 06:33.11 | jasoncohen | peterS, can i use the tveeprom module from 2.6.8? |
| 06:33.13 | peterS | jasoncohen: it should already have figured this out so I don't know why it didn't, but try loading that module |
| 06:33.14 | pego | welson: how much comparisons ? |
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| 06:33.24 | peterS | jasoncohen: the etch kernel comes with a tveeprom module, just load it |
| 06:33.24 | {wf}shadowspawn | ehlo |
| 06:33.39 | jasoncohen | that was it |
| 06:33.48 | Seb | helo localhost |
| 06:33.53 | {wf}shadowspawn | heh |
| 06:33.53 | stew | 250 |
| 06:33.55 | mwilson | deconvolution: Yes, eterm only supports core fonts, and I imagine the Gnome font selector, being crap, only displays fontconfig stuff. |
| 06:33.59 | nvz | Seb: dont put thoughts in my head. heh |
| 06:34.00 | jasoncohen | peterS, thanks |
| 06:34.02 | peterS | mwilson: I saw gravity about 7 hours ago, but not since |
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| 06:34.09 | {wf}shadowspawn | how do i stop the screensaver in deb from kicking in with videolan |
| 06:34.11 | jasoncohen | i'll just add that to /etc/modules |
| 06:34.13 | ke6isf | !beer stew |
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| 06:34.32 | mwilson | peterS: Ah, I'm sure -4 will get dropped by and by. |
| 06:34.40 | jasoncohen | peterS, but i thought the problem before was the bttv module so i tried using the module from 2.6.8. how do i recompile the 2.6.11 module? |
| 06:34.49 | deconvolution | mwilson: which program is good to check all the fonts installed in my system ? |
| 06:34.58 | jasoncohen | heh, should have made a backup but i thought it was broken anyways |
| 06:35.10 | mwilson | deconvolution: "check" them? Check them for what? |
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| 06:35.24 | peterS | jasoncohen: eh? kernel modules are in /lib/modules/KERNELVERSION/ so the one should not have been overwritten by the other |
| 06:35.38 | peterS | jasoncohen: or did you mean you copied a bttv.ko from one dir to the other? |
| 06:35.47 | jasoncohen | peterS, i know- i did it manually to see if the the 2.6.8 bttv.ko would work |
| 06:36.14 | jasoncohen | not realizing that it would simply refuse to load a module compiled with 2.6.8 |
| 06:36.14 | peterS | jasoncohen: reinstall the whole kernel. if you compiled it, you should have used the make-kpkg command, which produces a .deb file you can install |
| 06:36.38 | jasoncohen | easy enough- next time i won't be this stupid, heh |
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| 06:36.43 | deconvolution | mwilson: for example, I want to use a font listed in gnome-font selector but the full name (-misc-fixed-....) was not listed |
| 06:36.58 | peterS | jasoncohen: anyway, 'dpkg -i /tmp/kernel-image-*.deb' is easier than trying to extract just the right file |
| 06:37.03 | mwilson | deconvolution: For example, you didn't bother to listen to what I told you. |
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| 06:37.14 | jasoncohen | peterS, apt-get install --reinstall kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 |
| 06:37.26 | peterS | jasoncohen: right, or that, if you didn't compile your own |
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| 06:38.04 | tarzeau | what can cause a Broken pipe? "zcat: stdout: Broken pipe" |
| 06:38.12 | deconvolution | mwilson: you just said gnome-font-selector lists fontconfig fonts which are not for Eterm, did it? |
| 06:38.31 | peterS | tarzeau: the program whose output zcat was piped into exited before reading all its input |
| 06:38.42 | peterS | tarzeau: 'head' will do this, for example - it knows it doesn't need the rest of the input |
| 06:38.47 | Sultrix | Hey guys, has anyone here ever setup an IRCD with services.. more specifically ircd-hybrid and hybserv ? I have setup the ircd, and that works fine.. im trying to get services working, to my knowledge hybserv.conf is correct and it doesn't really give me any errors in hybser.log and it starts up (it creates pid file, and all neccessary files.. and is listed in ps -ax) however when i try /msg OperServ help or /msg NickServ Help it says operserv/nic |
| 06:38.52 | jasoncohen | peterS, should i restart after re-installing the kernel? |
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| 06:39.07 | peterS | jasoncohen: if it's the same kernel you have running now ("uname -r"), there is no need |
| 06:39.16 | jasoncohen | it is |
| 06:39.35 | tarzeau | peterS: what about a script with a trap, touch and makewhatis -w ? |
| 06:39.35 | jasoncohen | but it isn't loading bttv now with the same error even though tveeprom is loaded |
| 06:39.52 | jasoncohen | which makes no sense |
| 06:40.18 | peterS | jasoncohen: yeah, I dunno. nm shows that tveeprom_hauppauge_analog and tveeprom_read both exist in that module |
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| 06:40.43 | peterS | jasoncohen: well, on my box, with the 2.6.11-1-k7 variant |
| 06:42.43 | jasoncohen | tveeprom 12340 0 |
| 06:42.47 | jm_ | sultri;we have it running |
| 06:42.58 | QUACH-VU | hi can someone tell me how to check log of all connection into SSH ( included IP of connection) ? |
| 06:43.00 | jasoncohen | bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_read bttv: Unknown symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
| 06:43.02 | emilo | jm_, Cool, any chance you could help me out? |
| 06:43.10 | emilo | jm_, i can't put my finger on the problem? |
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| 06:43.14 | jm_ | emilo: with? |
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| 06:43.20 | emilo | hybserv |
| 06:43.26 | emilo | <-- sultrix |
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| 06:44.27 | jm_ | emilo: you need C/N lines in hybserv.conf |
| 06:44.34 | peterS | jasoncohen: just to check: grep tveeprom /proc/kallsyms |
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| 06:44.45 | peterS | jasoncohen: it should list those two symbols, and others, associated with the tveeprom module |
| 06:44.47 | emilo | jm_ i have those |
| 06:45.28 | peterS | jasoncohen: and they should be "T" symbols |
| 06:45.45 | emilo | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.56 | jasoncohen | peterS, nope |
| 06:46.00 | jasoncohen | don't see it |
| 06:46.15 | peterS | jasoncohen: so, your tveeprom module doesn't include those symbols? does it include other symbols? |
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| 06:46.53 | jasoncohen | peterS, yes |
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| 06:47.20 | jasoncohen | peterS, http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 06:47.24 | jasoncohen | http://pastebin.ca/18026 |
| 06:47.34 | emilo | jm_, ? |
| 06:47.34 | peterS | jasoncohen: very odd. I'm looking at the source for that module, and there's no indication that tveeprom_read is exported any differently from other symbols |
| 06:47.34 | jm_ | emilo: you also need it in ircd.conf |
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| 06:47.57 | emilo | emilo, i have a connect thing in ircd.conf for it as it is hybrid ircd 7 |
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| 06:48.46 | jasoncohen | peterS, how do i get the bttv module to load? i need it for mythtv |
| 06:48.58 | litage | how can i determine which .deb contains the driver for a particular printer? (HP Color LaserJet 2550) |
| 06:49.14 | jasoncohen | peterS, i can't use 2.6.8 because i get kernel page faults every week or so causing a hard lockup- i saw the same in mdk 10.1 with 2.6.8 |
| 06:49.28 | jm_ | litage: foomatic will have it |
| 06:49.35 | litage | jm_: foomatic-db? |
| 06:49.50 | peterS | jasoncohen: something's screwed up with that kernel. is your computer less than 8 years old? if so, try the 2.6.11-1-686 kernel image |
| 06:50.16 | jasoncohen | peterS, it's an amd 2700+ so yes |
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| 06:50.20 | jm_ | litage: install foomatic-bin |
| 06:50.26 | emilo | jm_, ? |
| 06:50.27 | peterS | jasoncohen: heh. 2.6.1-1-k7 then |
| 06:50.33 | peterS | jasoncohen: I mean 2.6.11-1-k7 |
| 06:50.35 | jm_ | emilo: see above |
| 06:50.58 | litage | jm_: apparently foomatic-bin is already installed |
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| 06:51.12 | emilo | jm_, look at msg window i will show u what i put in ircd.con f |
| 06:51.25 | jasoncohen | peterS, ok, installing |
| 06:51.38 | jasoncohen | peterS, how can they screw up the -386 kernel like that? |
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| 06:51.53 | jasoncohen | there must also be something wrong with the kernel-headers for -386 because it wouldn't cleanly compile ivtv |
| 06:51.59 | jasoncohen | it worked fine with 2.6.11-1 |
| 06:52.02 | peterS | jasoncohen: seems strange to me too |
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| 06:52.03 | jm_ | litage: and foomatic-filters-ppds? |
| 06:52.22 | jm_ | emilo: no talk here, don't msg me - and you shouldn't paste that as it contains passwords |
| 06:52.23 | litage | jm_: installing foomatic-filters-ppds now |
| 06:52.38 | jm_ | litage: read description for this package to get some more ideas |
| 06:52.47 | emilo | jm_, well u saw it so is that ok? |
| 06:52.58 | welson | what's the best setting for lan vncviewier? |
| 06:53.04 | jm_ | emilo: I didn't see anything |
| 06:53.23 | emilo | argc |
| 06:53.41 | emilo | well can u help me or not like i said i have a connect tab in ircd.conf |
| 06:53.43 | jasoncohen | peterS, thanks for all your assistance |
| 06:53.47 | peterS | jasoncohen: good luck |
| 06:54.04 | jasoncohen | i have to recompile ivtv again now |
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| 06:54.36 | jm_ | I won't help you if you won't prefix lines for me with my nick - you need to define them properly in ircd.conf and in hybserv.conf, they have to match, otherwise it won't work |
| 06:54.48 | emilo | THEY DO MATCH |
| 06:55.21 | emilo | jm_, The info in ircd.conf and hybserv.conf match. |
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| 06:55.32 | emilo | jm_, the name of the server, and ips etc.. |
| 06:55.43 | jasoncohen | peterS, bttv is loaded- thanks! |
| 06:55.49 | peterS | hey, cool |
| 06:55.50 | jm_ | emilo: are you sure you put them in proper fields? |
| 06:56.03 | emilo | cagtcyes |
| 06:56.04 | jasoncohen | peterS, but ivtv still won't compile cleanly against 2.6.11-1-k7 headers. want to see the output? |
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| 06:56.12 | emilo | ircd.conf has connect ( ); field |
| 06:56.25 | peterS | jasoncohen: go ahead and pastebin it. I probably won't be able to help, but you never know |
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| 06:56.36 | SDFH_Linux | http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/julyclean.jpg <--whats the name of the program running on the top right |
| 06:57.02 | jasoncohen | peterS, http://pastebin.ca/18031 |
| 06:58.33 | peterS | jasoncohen: those are warnings, not errors. I'm not sure what would cause them, but they may or may not mean anything |
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| 06:58.44 | jasoncohen | peterS, it compiles cleanly against 2.6.11-1 once again |
| 06:58.47 | golly | hi all |
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| 06:59.00 | jasoncohen | peterS, you sure? it didnt' load correctly before |
| 06:59.10 | jasoncohen | it said there were undefined symbols. i assumed it was that |
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| 07:00.20 | Tuttle | I would wish to tweak my kernel on running Sarge. The are some howtos for using kernel-package, but I could not find how to start configuring kernel from the debian distribution state. Where is the best howto on this? |
| 07:00.25 | pego | every time i install a package with web interface (nagios/cacti) he put that in /usr/share ( i don't backup /usr) so how can i tell all that package to go in my /home/data/www ? i don't see something like that in apache.conf |
| 07:00.48 | jm_ | Tuttle: tweak it how? |
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| 07:02.05 | Tuttle | jm_: I wish to make a minor change in the ext2 filesystem and also turn off many unneeded kernel modules. I'd like to start at _exact_ kernel konfiguration as comes in precompiled 2.6.8-2-686 that came with debian. |
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| 07:02.44 | jm_ | Tuttle: what change is that? as for that - apt-get source kernel-image-foo; you can find its config in /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 07:03.30 | jasoncohen | peterS, you were right. those were only warnings |
| 07:03.50 | jasoncohen | peterS, ivtv is reallly finicky about firmware versions. i probably was using the wrong one. |
| 07:04.05 | jasoncohen | peterS, thanks again. my mythtv box is back in commission |
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| 07:04.12 | Tuttle | jm_: I found /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686, but aren't there some debian kernel patches, or is sufficient to fetch vanilla kernel.org and use the /boot/config-2.6.8-2-686 on it and i'll get the distribution kernel? |
| 07:04.23 | peterS | jasoncohen: yeah, this is weird. init_module and cleanup_module are autogenerated from the module_init() and module_exit() macros. the process is complex but I don't know why it would suddenly fail |
| 07:04.29 | jm_ | Tuttle: that's why I told you to use apt-get source ... |
| 07:04.59 | Tuttle | jm_: I'm already running kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 07:05.01 | jm_ | Tuttle: Debian doesn't use many patches for kernel I believe, so it will probably be OK with vanilla kernel too |
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| 07:05.16 | jm_ | Tuttle: bah you're not reading it, READ IT AGAIN FIVE TIMES |
| 07:05.47 | peterS | jasoncohen: good to hear |
| 07:05.50 | Tuttle | jm_: sorry, got it at the first re-read :-) |
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| 07:06.32 | jm_ | Tuttle: there you go |
| 07:06.46 | Zta | Can start-stop-daemon be used to respawn a process, such as getty? |
| 07:07.47 | peterS | Zta: no, to respawn something like getty you really want to do it in /etc/inittab |
| 07:07.51 | Zta | Or is there another standard tool for that? |
| 07:08.13 | peterS | Zta: or /etc/inetd.conf if it needs to be spawned based on incoming network connections (not like getty) |
| 07:08.31 | Zta | peterS, well, not I don't =). I'm working on an embedded system, and sometimes I need getty to be shut down. And inittab just respawns it. |
| 07:08.43 | litage | the printer is setup and printed a testpage. when i print from firefox though, a new job doesn't show up in the cups web admin, and the doc isn't printed. any suggestions? |
| 07:08.47 | jm_ | well then you disable it in inittab |
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| 07:08.56 | peterS | Zta: well, there's daemontools which is djbware and thus not in debian |
| 07:08.57 | Zta | It's run on de serial port, so inetd won't work in this case |
| 07:09.04 | jm_ | litage: check printer configuration in firefox |
| 07:09.09 | Zta | djbware? |
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| 07:09.34 | peterS | Zta: software written by Daniel J. Bernstein. his software is licensed in a manner not compatible with the Debian Free Software Guidelines |
| 07:09.38 | Tuttle | jm_: as for the change in the filesystem, I found that the "nodump" ext2 attribute (lsattr/chattr) is inherited to the newly created files and dirs when the parent dir have it set. I find it to be rather stupid feature and wish it to change, so star can have stable incremental backups exclusion list read from the filesystem. |
| 07:09.40 | peterS | Zta: his best-known work is qmail |
| 07:10.08 | peterS | Zta: anyway, 'apt-cache search daemontools' turns up several hits - presumably things that are functionally similar, so daemontools is mentioned in their descriptions |
| 07:10.12 | jm_ | Tuttle: so you want to modify the source code to not do this? |
| 07:10.25 | peterS | Zta: use 'apt-cache show' to see more about each one |
| 07:10.33 | Zta | peterS, yes. Thanks. |
| 07:10.51 | jasoncohen | peterS, should i submit a bug report on kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386? |
| 07:10.53 | Tuttle | jm_: I inspected the kernel source and found this feature hardwired. There is no usage of this attribute in the kernel, it is aimed to be used by user. |
| 07:11.01 | peterS | jasoncohen: sure, doesn't hurt |
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| 07:11.18 | Zta | peterS, I think I'll figure something out with a script instead ;) |
| 07:11.44 | peterS | Zta: well, it looks like debian does have tools to do what you want - I just haven't used any of them so I don't know what to recommend |
| 07:11.59 | jm_ | Tuttle: well my thinking was that you wanted to disable inheritance, right? |
| 07:12.20 | Zta | peterS, I need to cross-compile them for ARM9 first anyway.. |
| 07:12.28 | Tuttle | jm_: You got it right. |
| 07:12.33 | peterS | Zta: ah, heh. debian arm binaries don't work on arm9? |
| 07:12.57 | Zta | peterS, haven't tried. I'm using Buildroot for environment. |
| 07:13.11 | Tuttle | jm_: So I think I have to alter the bitmask in the ext3 inode creating function. |
| 07:14.01 | jm_ | Tuttle: so you're using star? any particular reason? |
| 07:14.23 | Timsen | hi! |
| 07:14.59 | Timsen | i installed debian 3.1, but i want to use some older packages, for example imagemagick 5.4.4 is that possible without compiling it ? |
| 07:15.06 | litage | jm_: the printer options look okay, except i don't know about the print command: lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} |
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| 07:15.27 | jm_ | litage: change that to lp or install cupsys-bsd package |
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| 07:15.47 | Tuttle | jm_: It has several advantages against the GNU tar. For example, it's standard compliant, does include true incremental dump feature, it's faster when it comes to many files. I read the manpage from top to bottom and started to like it. :-) |
| 07:16.17 | jm_ | Tuttle: I see |
| 07:16.57 | Tuttle | jm_: I wrote the shell script to backup several servers via NFS using star. It works nicely. |
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| 07:19.06 | Tuttle | jm_: But for the home computer, there are many paths I would wish to exclude from backup dumps between my two harddisks. The ext3 nodump attribute that star can behave by seems like the best way, but it's inheritance is IMHO not reasonable. |
| 07:19.49 | litage | jm_: i changed 'lpr' to 'lp' but still can't print from firefox. any other suggestions? |
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| 07:19.54 | maher | Tuttle: what are you backing up onto? |
| 07:20.02 | cmihai | Can it print to ps? :_ |
| 07:20.15 | litage | cmihai: how can i print to ps? |
| 07:20.17 | jm_ | litage: print it to a file, then check if lp file works |
| 07:20.33 | cmihai | You do that from firefox, print to file (ps usualy). |
| 07:20.48 | Tuttle | maher: At home, I wish to make frequent selective backups from my main disk to my secondary disk serving as the big files storage. |
| 07:21.35 | cmihai | Hm... looks like the generic debian kernel doesn't like my via controller. All I get is 3MB/s from the hard drives / cd. Can't switch to dma mode either... |
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| 07:21.44 | peterS | Tuttle: I don't understand - if you have a directory with 'nodump' set - why would you *not* want that set in newly created files/dirs inside that dir? |
| 07:22.16 | peterS | Tuttle: in other words - why would you set 'nodump' on a dir if you did want to dump some things in it? |
| 07:22.19 | maher | Tuttle: why not use dirvish |
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| 07:22.55 | Tuttle | peterS: because when I later decide to put out that newly created file/dir from that nodump dir, I certainly wish it to be backed up later again. |
| 07:23.01 | cmihai | HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted. Any way to fix that without having to recompile the kernel? (VT82C586A) |
| 07:23.43 | jm_ | load the module that handles your IDE chipset |
| 07:23.47 | peterS | Tuttle: oh - so you wish to use a directory nodump flag to signal that all files inside the dir are to be ignored - but the files themselves don't get that flag, so you can later move them elsewhere |
| 07:23.50 | Tuttle | maher: How is the exclusion set when using dirvish? |
| 07:23.54 | welson | cmihai: possibly, just maybe there's a slight bug in the harddrive's firmware which might be upgradable.. |
| 07:24.08 | maher | Tuttle: you can exlcude using various regexs |
| 07:24.09 | peterS | cmihai: what kernel version? |
| 07:24.14 | cmihai | welson: nope, it happens to the DVD drive also. |
| 07:24.18 | Tuttle | peterS: exactly, I think that is the most flexible scheme |
| 07:24.23 | cmihai | 2.6.8 and 2.6.11. |
| 07:24.26 | welson | cmihai: check the bios ? |
| 07:25.03 | peterS | cmihai: the 82c586a is pretty old. is that the actual chip you have, or do you have a newer VIA chip? |
| 07:25.11 | cmihai | Yep, it works ok in other distributions. I think it can be fixed by selecting an VIA controller driver at the kernel compile... |
| 07:25.21 | Tuttle | maher: And why to maintain the information at the several places and synchronize it by hand? I see this to be stupid. Now I set the nodump at the very place where I wish the backup exclusion and the fs remembers it even after the move and reorganization. |
| 07:25.30 | welson | cmihai: nodma ? |
| 07:25.36 | cmihai | Via KT600 actually. No DMA. |
| 07:25.48 | peterS | cmihai: the debian 2.6.x kernel images definitely have a via IDE driver module. the module name is via82cxxx. |
| 07:26.03 | maher | Tuttle: ? ok - dunno what that meant |
| 07:26.08 | peterS | cmihai: if that module is not loaded, for whatever reason, I suppose you could have some problems |
| 07:26.10 | welson | cmihai: try passing something alike nodma to the kernel line |
| 07:26.36 | Tuttle | maher: ? |
| 07:26.44 | cmihai | The module looks loaded...it just won't allow me to set dma on. HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted |
| 07:26.45 | welson | cmihai: if that's what you're trying.. |
| 07:26.47 | maher | Tuttle: if dirvish doesn't meet your needs that's fine by me |
| 07:27.52 | litage | i setup 2 printers, but in firefox's print dialog, there are 6: HP_LaserJet@:64, HP_Colour@:64, xp_ps_spooldir_HOME_Xprintjobs@:64, xp_pdf_spooldir_HOME_Xprintjobs@:64, PostScript/HP_Laser, and PostScript/HP_Colour. the only one that actually prints anything is HP_Colour@:64 |
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| 07:28.03 | Tuttle | maher: it may be great software, but everything that store the exclusion list outside the data seem suboptimal to me, I would have to sync it before each backup... |
| 07:28.36 | Tuttle | maher: anyway thanks for the tip. |
| 07:28.45 | maher | Tuttle: ok - so you have some dir called foo which you don't want backed up eevn if you move it around the fs at random |
| 07:29.00 | cmihai | I guess the only reason hdparm -d 1 won't work is the kernel. I'll try to recompile it with VIA as build in, instead of a module... |
| 07:29.09 | Tuttle | maher: sure, you do not know such situations at your home box? |
| 07:29.15 | maher | Tuttle: no |
| 07:29.47 | maher | Tuttle: i back everything up except /proc /sys |
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| 07:30.01 | jm_ | you include /tmp in backups? :) |
| 07:30.07 | maher | jm_: yes |
| 07:30.34 | Tuttle | maher: Then it's okay of course. |
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| 07:31.12 | maher | Tuttle: you can do an exclude on **/foo/* - but this will match other instances of foo in other places in the fs |
| 07:31.14 | shaiW | fluxbox... won't run properly |
| 07:31.15 | Tuttle | maher: If I had the space and don't feel sorry for the hdd mechanics, I'd certainly run full dumps too. |
| 07:31.24 | shaiW | the xterm option won't work |
| 07:31.24 | peterS | cmihai: might help. 'dmesg' prints your kernel log - does it mention anything interesting about the via IDE chip? |
| 07:31.33 | Tuttle | maher: Yes, it would. :) |
| 07:31.38 | shaiW | and the config tools won't do anything at all, some of them won't even run |
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| 07:32.21 | shaiW | whenever I try to run fluxkyes, it asks me to run fluxconf and set it's path to a writable directory |
| 07:32.21 | maher | Tuttle: dirvish does incremental backups in 4-5 times the space - i have about 20G of stuff i backup onto a 200G external drive |
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| 07:32.34 | shaiW | which is annoying, because it's already set to a writeable directory |
| 07:32.54 | peterS | cmihai: also, the via82cxxx driver really needs to be loaded from the initrd, along with ide_generic, rather than later on after the disk is in use |
| 07:32.54 | shaiW | and whenever I try to set something right in fluxmenu, I get an error message quoted below: |
| 07:32.56 | cmihai | peterS: VP_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:0f.1 |
| 07:33.05 | shaiW | "(fluxbare:7930): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_set: assertion `VALID_ITER (iter, tree_store)' failed" |
| 07:33.15 | Tuttle | maher: That fits my expectations. |
| 07:33.19 | shaiW | I really don't know what all of that means, and my only question is what do I do next? |
| 07:33.55 | cmihai | peterS: oh, I don't know about that (loading it from initrd)... |
| 07:34.11 | peterS | cmihai: if you're using a debian kernel image it really *should* arrange to load all this stuff from the initrd |
| 07:34.41 | peterS | cmihai: you certainly can try recompiling with VIA IDE built in, but this may or may not make any difference |
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| 07:35.15 | peterS | cmihai: I've got a vt8237 chip as well and it works fine. as someone else suggested, next time you reboot, check your BIOS settings to make sure something isn't just disabled there |
| 07:35.53 | maher | Tuttle: i don't actually recommend backing up /tmp - i was just to lazy to add the exclusion... |
| 07:35.54 | jm_ | works fine for me too |
| 07:36.09 | cmihai | Well, yes, I am using a Debian kernel image. And I still can't set DMA. That's why I'd like to try to recompile the kernel also. I'll check my bios, but I guess if FreeBSD and SuSE work with DMA... Well, I'll see about the kernel now. Thanks. |
| 07:36.25 | shaiW | what, no fluxbox users here to the rexcue? |
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| 07:36.41 | sameer | how can i set a background image in X |
| 07:36.48 | stew | i have to backup /tmp on all my machine becuase i cannot convince my wife to stop putting files there that she wants |
| 07:36.52 | peterS | sameer: xli is one way |
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| 07:37.14 | peterS | sameer: if you use some particular "desktop environment", those have their own config applets for this stuff |
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| 07:37.22 | rosemary | trying to install debian sarge, and think I've messed up vieo card settings as startx takes me back to command prompt with message X10 fatal error" |
| 07:37.32 | stew | the first thing my wife does on a new machine is to change the /tmp/ cleaning time in /etc/default/rcS |
| 07:37.41 | Tuttle | maher: okay |
| 07:38.07 | welson | rosemary: hey I see you got an error, you actually quoted it, pretty impressive.. |
| 07:38.30 | maher | stew: i have a tmp in home - in fact i have a tmp/tmp in home... |
| 07:38.43 | rosemary | welson that is part of it |
| 07:39.13 | welson | rosemary: check your x log |
| 07:39.15 | stew | rosemary: look for EE lines in /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 07:39.34 | sanxiyn | "Probably the two most common facts to hear about Debian is that it is hopelessly outdated and stable as a rock." -- Martin Krafft |
| 07:39.58 | Wingot | sanxiyn lol |
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| 07:41.09 | sameer | peterS : iam running a standalone app with no wm and desktop |
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| 07:41.40 | peterS | sameer: use xli then. there are other apps for the same puropse but I forget what they are |
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| 07:42.19 | pego | anyone have image of a floppy that let me boot a livecd ? |
| 07:42.30 | jm_ | pego: SBM |
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| 07:42.54 | pego | jm_: thanks |
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| 07:45.52 | coywolf | what is this doing? s/[^\/]*\///g the [^\/] part |
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| 07:46.12 | jm_ | coywolf: man 7 regex |
| 07:46.15 | peterS | coywolf: [^\/] means any character other than \ or / |
| 07:46.36 | peterS | coywolf: like many regexes, it also looks like some twisted emoticon |
| 07:47.10 | sanxiyn | peterS: In this case, \ in [^\/] is most likely an escape. |
| 07:47.16 | peterS | coywolf: actually since / is used as the regex separator character, \/ just means literal / |
| 07:47.32 | peterS | coywolf: so [^\/] is like [^/] which is any character other than / |
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| 07:48.13 | coywolf | petemc, thanks |
| 07:48.13 | sanxiyn | coywolf: That regex deletes everything until the first slash. |
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| 07:49.49 | rosemary | stew: No devices detected |
| 07:50.06 | stew | !drxx rosemary |
| 07:50.07 | dpkg | rosemary: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
| 07:50.17 | stew | rosemary: what video card? what driver did you choose? |
| 07:50.18 | sameer | peterS : will xli support all jpegs.. it says it supports jfif jpeg :-| |
| 07:50.30 | peterS | sameer: all jpeg files I've ever seen were jfif format |
| 07:50.36 | teufel | How can I update exim4 once I changed a setting? Isn't there an update command I have to put in? |
| 07:51.21 | peterS | sameer: they really should have settled on .jfif as the filename convention, but too late for that now |
| 07:51.23 | rosemary | stew I thought it was s3 - worked in pclinos install |
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| 07:51.50 | rosemary | stew - I should have run knoppix and made a note of it |
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| 07:52.07 | sameer | peterS : lol .. |
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| 07:53.16 | stew | rosemary: what does lspci say it is? |
| 07:54.01 | welson | rosemary: s3 is sis i believe.. |
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| 07:54.07 | stew | welson: no |
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| 07:54.41 | welson | stew: well i guessed :-/ |
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| 07:54.48 | stew | !iydkdg |
| 07:54.48 | dpkg | If you don't know, don't guess |
| 07:54.57 | teufel | Is there a good program I can install to make a webmail site for my mail server? |
| 07:54.59 | rosemary | stew s3 Inc Trio 64 3D (rev 01) the installer preselected vesa, but I changed it to s3 |
| 07:55.09 | peterS | teufel: apt-cache search webmail server |
| 07:55.10 | jm_ | teufel: apt-cache search will help |
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| 07:55.22 | sanxiyn | peterS: Can't EXIF also use JPEG? |
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| 07:55.35 | peterS | sanxiyn: yes. exif uses jfif format |
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| 07:56.11 | hellz | is this possible with telnet: i connect to a remote machine and then execute a shell script defined in my local machine |
| 07:56.15 | stew | rosemary: vesa shoudl work, albeit slowly |
| 07:56.17 | sanxiyn | teufel: squirrelmail works. I hate it. |
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| 07:56.44 | stew | rosemary: you might search for others' xfree86config-4 on the web with the same card as you |
| 07:56.59 | stew | s3 cards have, uhh, issues |
| 07:57.03 | stew | !s3 |
| 07:57.03 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
| 07:57.19 | jm_ | I was very happy with Diamon S3 card I had, it worked great in X |
| 07:57.20 | rosemary | stew I'm googling and have the same problem on a debian list - just reding it |
| 07:57.37 | peterS | jm_: a virge? those are nice indeed |
| 07:57.39 | stew | jm_: in X v3 or v4? |
| 07:57.50 | sanxiyn | hellz: I think you can use something like Expect? |
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| 07:58.16 | hellz | what i actually have to configure routers and switches |
| 07:58.24 | peterS | hellz: or just redirect the shell script into the telnet command. surprisingly, this works |
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| 07:58.39 | teufel | sanxiyn: why do you hate it? |
| 07:58.47 | sanxiyn | teufel: A matter of taste. |
| 07:58.49 | GooooGle | I got the NetInstall verion of Debian and it was in a RAR package. So when I opened it it was all like an ISO that has already been burnt. So I burnt all the files/folders just like they were to a disc using Nero. Now, when I rebooted my system it didnt boot from the CD even though I have set the CD-ROM to be the first boot device.Heres a pic of the contents of the disc: http://tinypic.com/91bhc6.jpg |
| 07:59.17 | peterS | GooooGle: dude. where on earth did you find a Debian netinst CD image in RAR format? |
| 07:59.31 | GooooGle | peterS: Debian.org. |
| 07:59.33 | GooooGle | heh |
| 07:59.37 | sanxiyn | GooooGle: Really? |
| 07:59.39 | antenagora | GooooGle, impossible |
| 07:59.42 | GooooGle | Really :/ |
| 07:59.45 | GooooGle | hang, |
| 07:59.49 | hellz | peterS: yes that could be a solution, have to experiment i think |
| 07:59.49 | peterS | GooooGle: go to cdimage.debian.org and find the real thing |
| 08:00.10 | GooooGle | errr |
| 08:00.11 | GooooGle | URL http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 08:00.18 | GooooGle | i got that but it was opening in Winrar :| |
| 08:00.19 | stew | thats not a .rar |
| 08:00.24 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 08:00.28 | GooooGle | damn |
| 08:00.40 | sanxiyn | "So I burnt all the files/folders just like they were to a disc using Nero." hahahaha |
| 08:00.42 | peterS | GooooGle: don't use winrar to open iso files then. just burn them as-is |
| 08:00.44 | GooooGle | sirry :D |
| 08:00.45 | GooooGle | sorry* |
| 08:00.52 | sanxiyn | So you extracted .iso and burnt files. Of course it doesn't boot. |
| 08:01.29 | GooooGle | peterS: I wonder how Winrar thought of it to be a rar file. Sorry though, i didnt even bother having a look. Just woke up and saw the download had finished on dialup, heh |
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| 08:01.52 | pumpitup | dialup and debian :| |
| 08:01.53 | peterS | GooooGle: oh. when you installed winrar, it probably registered itself as the way to open .iso files. it can handle iso images in addition to rar files |
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| 08:02.07 | GooooGle | kl |
| 08:02.23 | antenagora | GooooGle, in nero Burn image |
| 08:02.38 | GooooGle | yup, I know that =p |
| 08:02.40 | nuts | hey, someone in here posted me a link some time ago about mirroring a disk in 1:1 but not trough "dd"... the disks are equal. anyone a hint? |
| 08:02.40 | antenagora | and select the .iso file you' ve downloades |
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| 08:02.50 | hellz | sanxiyn: do i have to install expect in the remote host to do that |
| 08:02.57 | stew | nuts: cp? |
| 08:02.58 | sanxiyn | hellz: No. |
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| 08:03.11 | nuts | stew: it was a link with some few commands, on the remote and the local host |
| 08:03.17 | sanxiyn | hellz: As others said, redirecting to telnet may work... |
| 08:03.18 | jm_ | peterS: yes, I think it had Virge chip in it - Viper 770 |
| 08:04.06 | jm_ | stew: v3 back then |
| 08:04.20 | liable | nuts: rsync? |
| 08:04.49 | nuts | liable: nah, i need that link though. it was something with tar | ssh and stuff like that |
| 08:05.09 | GooooGle | Who wants to exchange their broadband for elite 24/7 dialup ? |
| 08:05.11 | stew | nuts: i'd imagine you could just scp /dev/hdxx remotehost:/dev/hdxx ; but i'd wait for peterS to say, yeah that works fine before i actually did it |
| 08:05.19 | jasoncohen | peterS, now i'm getting "ati_remote: version magic '2.6.11-1-k7 386 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.11-1-k7 K7 gcc-3.3' after compiling ati_remote.c |
| 08:05.47 | nuts | stew: that link is what i need ;) |
| 08:05.54 | jasoncohen | i have kernel-headers-2.6.11-1-k7 and kernel-source-2.6.11 installed |
| 08:05.57 | nuts | if someone remembers... |
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| 08:06.20 | jasoncohen | i did a make modules && make modules_install from kernel-source 2.6.11 |
| 08:06.37 | _AleX_ | hi all. I've installed unionfs-source package, but i don't show the module under module-assistant ... an idea ? |
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| 08:08.41 | GooooGle | Elite Debian NetInstaller, here i comeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee................................ |
| 08:09.04 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 08:09.05 | stew | gee |
| 08:09.30 | pumpitup | way too late for this kind of excitment |
| 08:09.44 | jasoncohen | what's the difference between '2.6.11-1-k7 386 gcc-3.3' and '2.6.11-1-k7 K7 gcc-3.3' |
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| 08:10.04 | jasoncohen | and why isn't it compiling correctly? |
| 08:10.14 | sanxiyn | jasoncohen: 386 and K7? |
| 08:10.32 | sanxiyn | (For "why", because "it doesn't match exactly" I guess, but...) |
| 08:10.33 | wingot | jason, I believe the 386 version is designed for the i386 (altough it should have an i in front), and K7 would be a different platform |
| 08:11.05 | wingot | hmm, nevermind :P |
| 08:11.20 | peterS | wingot: BS, the 386 image is supposed to work fine on a k7 |
| 08:11.23 | jasoncohen | i'm compiling modules in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.11 in 2.6.11-1-k7 and it's installed to /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-k7 |
| 08:11.35 | jm_ | jasoncohen: apt-cache show will tell you |
| 08:11.39 | wingot | peterS thank you for clarifying, I have never heard of a K7 before |
| 08:11.47 | So3kris | Good morning |
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| 08:11.53 | sanxiyn | !k7 |
| 08:11.53 | dpkg | from memory, k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 08:11.56 | jasoncohen | jm_, apt-cache show what? |
| 08:11.57 | peterS | wingot: ahhh, k7 just means AMD athlon series |
| 08:12.02 | jm_ | jasoncohen: kernel-image-foo |
| 08:12.08 | jasoncohen | 2.6.11-1-k7 |
| 08:12.25 | wingot | thanks dpkg |
| 08:12.47 | simonrvn | dpkg: of what species art thou |
| 08:12.48 | dpkg | debianus bottus |
| 08:12.51 | rosemary | stew can I alter the framebuffer option now, or do I need to reinstall? |
| 08:13.00 | wingot | and in that case, yes, the i386 works great on the K7 |
| 08:13.07 | jasoncohen | so, i have the correct kernel installed as well as kernel-source and kernel headers for the k7. it shows that it compiled for the 2.6.11-1-k7. i don't get it |
| 08:13.29 | stew | !drxx rosemary |
| 08:13.30 | dpkg | rosemary: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
| 08:13.59 | jasoncohen | peterS, if it shows compiled for 2.6.11-1-k7 doesn't that mean it's been compiled for the K7 and not 386? |
| 08:14.05 | jasoncohen | what does "ati_remote: version magic '2.6.11-1-k7 386 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.11-1-k7 K7 gcc-3.3'" mean? |
| 08:14.18 | rosemary | dpkg I tried that before and it simply went returned cursor - but I'll try again thanks |
| 08:14.26 | jasoncohen | how can 2.6.11-1-k7 be 386? |
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| 08:14.42 | peterS | jasoncohen: aha. 2.6.11-1-k7 is the kernel version string. 386 is the CPU for which your module was compiled. it *should* be k7, yes. |
| 08:14.55 | sanxiyn | simonrvn: No! In binomial names, the first name is Capitalized. |
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| 08:15.01 | jasoncohen | peterS, how do i compile it for the k7? |
| 08:15.08 | peterS | sanxiyn: also, the genus name is probably Bottus |
| 08:15.16 | simonrvn | sanxiyn: dude, that factoid is ancient. and yes, i agree |
| 08:15.17 | sanxiyn | Oh, indeed. |
| 08:15.20 | sanxiyn | So Bottus debianus. |
| 08:15.24 | peterS | sanxiyn: yeah |
| 08:15.33 | dizzz | hello - i've a very simple question: how can i move my home directory on another drive? |
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| 08:15.42 | simonrvn | !factinfo of what species art thou |
| 08:15.42 | dpkg | of what species art thou -- it has been requested 12 times, last by simonrvn, 2m 55s ago. |
| 08:15.48 | simonrvn | yup. OLD |
| 08:15.51 | simonrvn | no date |
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| 08:16.13 | peterS | !no of what species art thou is <reply>Bottus debianus. |
| 08:16.13 | dpkg | okay, peterS |
| 08:16.26 | wingot | hmm, I take it dpkg is a bot then? |
| 08:16.29 | peterS | yeah |
| 08:16.37 | stew | !what are you |
| 08:16.38 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 08:16.38 | simonrvn | beat me to it (damn 6 load avg) |
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| 08:17.05 | fooz | i'm a bot |
| 08:17.12 | peterS | no, you're a zoof |
| 08:17.18 | peterS | which is different |
| 08:17.20 | undertow | anyone know where i can find a g3torrent .deb? its in the hoary-backports for ubuntu, but i dont have ubuntu.... |
| 08:17.29 | simonrvn | a zoof is a fuzzy bot |
| 08:17.42 | welson | wingot: dpkg is also known as a factoid |
| 08:17.42 | peterS | ah, I thought it was a different sort of bot-like creature |
| 08:17.43 | wingot | hey, I'm reinstalling Sarge from the first 3 discs (waiting for my 2 DVDs in the mail), but in the installer, I can't find the part to choose which kernel you install. It seems to be defaulting to 2.4..., but I have had a choice before |
| 08:18.02 | peterS | wingot: at the initial boot screen, hit F3 |
| 08:18.04 | umbop | hmm how would i go about sharing the screens of a laptop and an another lcd screen? |
| 08:18.06 | So3kris | Hello I have a tyan gs10 with a promise pdc20276 "raid" chip know someone how i can get it running and whitch /dev/* it is been named ? Must i fist compile the kernel on a ide disk and than copy it to the raid array ? |
| 08:18.12 | wingot | peterS, cheers |
| 08:18.29 | liable | jasoncohen: make menu-config, and change achitecture for cpu. |
| 08:18.31 | welson | umbop: depends on the laptop |
| 08:18.32 | umbop | i have a thinkpad, and want the two screens to act as one |
| 08:18.48 | jm_ | wingot: press f1 at boot prompt and read |
| 08:18.50 | welson | umbop: look up the cute xinerama option |
| 08:18.55 | streuner_ | fooz: if you are going to start such convos, its your own fault then... |
| 08:18.58 | simonrvn | @of what species art thou |
| 08:18.58 | ravenbird | Debianus bottus sp. corax |
| 08:19.00 | jasoncohen | liable, shouldn't the 2.6.11-1-k7 kernel already use the K7 architecture? |
| 08:19.01 | peterS | jasoncohen: not sure how to compile your module for the correct CPU. if you are using the module-assistant program, I think it should happen automatically. if not, it's the responsibility of the upstream module developers to get it right in their makefile |
| 08:19.10 | wingot | jm_: RTFM hey? :) |
| 08:19.12 | umbop | oh right, it's done from the BIOS ? |
| 08:19.14 | peterS | jasoncohen: the -1-k7 kernel does. compiling your module for some reason does not |
| 08:19.24 | simonrvn | @no of what species art thou is <reply>Bottus debianus sp. corax |
| 08:19.24 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 08:20.00 | liable | jasoncohen: hrm, the source config prolly doesnt specify it, though the headers might make a diff, dunno, look in the config. |
| 08:20.07 | cahoot | simonrvn: isn't it bottus sanguinum? |
| 08:20.13 | stew | "Corax is also the name of the wereravens in White Wolf's World of Darkness role-playing game system;" |
| 08:20.20 | peterS | simonrvn: come to think of it it's probably "Infobottus blooti" |
| 08:20.27 | jasoncohen | peterS, so the problem is with the module itself. would i have better luck using a -686 kernel? |
| 08:20.44 | streuner_ | peterS: LTNS, vacation? |
| 08:20.51 | jasoncohen | i just need one where bttv works |
| 08:20.53 | peterS | jasoncohen: probably not - whatever process you used to compile the module (using its own Makefile, I guess) would still compile for 386 |
| 08:21.04 | peterS | streuner_: sort of. I've been out of town a lot this past month |
| 08:21.24 | peterS | streuner_: not at debconf5, unfortunately |
| 08:21.39 | jasoncohen | peterS, is it something that could be easily changed in the module itself? |
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| 08:22.16 | streuner_ | peterS: it seems you didn't miss much there... |
| 08:22.20 | peterS | jasoncohen: from what I understand of your module makefile (from a previous paste you did), it *should* be arranging to get the right compile flags already. why it's not, I don't know. but that does seem to be the problem |
| 08:22.36 | welson | somone knows the best latency for vnc? currently i'm having trouble chekcing out vnc4server-- xrealvnc seems not to be as fast as i thought for this lan.. |
| 08:22.48 | jasoncohen | peterS, here's the module itself- http://pastebin.ca/18038 |
| 08:23.31 | peterS | jasoncohen: right, that doesn't help me - it's the Makefile that comes with the module that matters |
| 08:24.00 | peterS | jasoncohen: you might try using the 'module-assistant' debian package to build your module. I haven't used it since I don't need any custom modules, but it's supposed to be rather clever for things like this |
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| 08:25.54 | teufel | sanxiyn: hey man, I just tried to set up squirrlemail but can't seem to find the "configtest.php" file that it refers to. and yes I have tried locate |
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| 08:26.43 | jasoncohen | how would i use module-assistant with something like this? i just have a custom ati_remote.c file. GreyFoxx (the author of the driver) told me to just place it in the correct directory and run make modules && make modules_install which worked in a 386 kernel |
| 08:28.05 | peterS | jasoncohen: oh, I don't know. those instructions may only work if you have a full kernel source tree |
| 08:28.21 | peterS | jasoncohen: check the docs on module-assistant, anyway. it probably has an easy way to do what you need |
| 08:28.32 | jasoncohen | i should- i have kernel-source-2.6.11 installed and i'm compiling from the source dir |
| 08:28.37 | jasoncohen | ok, thanks |
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| 08:30.53 | sanxiyn | teufel: Are you connecting from localhost? |
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| 08:31.23 | sanxiyn | teufel: IIRC, Squirrelmail (in its default setting) can't be accessed from outside. |
| 08:31.42 | sanxiyn | teufel: Fix appropriate apache config file. |
| 08:31.56 | sanxiyn | teufel: Also, be sure to read README.Debian. |
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| 08:32.05 | Coag | does debian still have a 586 kernel? |
| 08:32.09 | laurens_ | hi |
| 08:32.10 | laurens_ | I was wondering what the reccomended spot is for putting |
| 08:32.10 | laurens_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.25 | laurens_ | I've already put powernow-k8 and cpufreq_ondemand in /etc/modules |
| 08:32.26 | teufel | sanxiyn: just changed that option from the outside |
| 08:32.31 | laurens_ | but I need to run the following comamnd at boot: |
| 08:32.37 | laurens_ | echo "ondemand" >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/*/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 08:32.42 | laurens_ | any ideas? |
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| 08:33.28 | Coag | anyone know if debian still has a i586 kernel? |
| 08:34.12 | Fleck | hi all, what was the option (mount) for usb flash drives, when i copy files, they don't get pushed in the RAM and after that copied in flash ? |
| 08:34.15 | streuner_ | Coag: /msg dpkg search |
| 08:34.38 | teufel | can someone tell me what "192.168.1.0/24" means? I understand that 192.168.1.1-whatever is like your routers IP addresses but what does the /24 mean? |
| 08:34.43 | boycer | laurens_: you could make an init script (/etc/init.d/foo), or perhaps an @reboot cron job. |
| 08:34.47 | kadigibox | hello. I have a okidata microline 591 and its not listed on linuxprinting.org. anyone know of what I should do for the printer? |
| 08:34.57 | So3kris | Hello |
| 08:35.05 | jm_ | Fleck: you mean sync? |
| 08:35.08 | TBBle | Fleck: man mount suggests 'sync'. |
| 08:35.14 | Fleck | ok :) |
| 08:35.15 | Fleck | thanks |
| 08:35.26 | boycer | laurens_: you'd need to link the init script to the appropriate /etc/rc*.d folder to get it to run at startup |
| 08:36.08 | sanxiyn | teufel: 24 is a prefix length. |
| 08:36.09 | jm_ | teufel: yes, there is someone who can tell you |
| 08:36.13 | boycer | laurens_: perhaps the @reboot cron job might be best for this situation... |
| 08:36.28 | Coag | i weas here earlier and someone gave me a link to the floppy boot images |
| 08:36.32 | Coag | can i get that again please |
| 08:36.38 | welson | teufel: its a binarial formula |
| 08:36.39 | streuner_ | kadigibox: Laser or inkjet? |
| 08:36.41 | laurens_ | boycer: I know gentoo is a dirty word, But I used to do it this way, I put it in /etc/local.start |
| 08:36.43 | sanxiyn | teufel: 192.168.1.0 means from 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.255. |
| 08:36.45 | laurens_ | would that work? |
| 08:36.54 | kadigibox | neather. 24pin DMP |
| 08:37.02 | So3kris | Have someone the pdc20276(promise"raid") running ? |
| 08:37.07 | qwertz__ | Hi! I remember there was a file where I could enter programm that are accepted as shells but can't remember it's name - any help? |
| 08:37.19 | teufel | sanxiyn: Ah ok |
| 08:37.23 | streuner_ | kadigibox: use 'groups.google.com' |
| 08:37.24 | jm_ | qwertz__: man shells |
| 08:37.27 | boycer | laurens_: not in debian... |
| 08:37.28 | deadcat | /etc/shells |
| 08:37.32 | Fleck | jm_ TBBle yep, that's it! :)) thank you guys :) |
| 08:37.52 | welson | qwertz__: ps |
| 08:37.59 | Coag | i weas here earlier and someone gave me a link to the floppy boot images can i get that link again please |
| 08:38.07 | welson | qwertz__: you forgot to say the magic word |
| 08:38.45 | streuner_ | Coag: /msg dpkg bf |
| 08:38.49 | welson | Coag: that's the smart bootdisk |
| 08:38.53 | streuner_ | Coag: s/woody/sarge/ |
| 08:39.20 | Coag | ahh ok |
| 08:39.21 | Coag | :) |
| 08:39.40 | Coag | i got my old machine connected to the internet |
| 08:39.44 | Coag | its an old 586 |
| 08:39.50 | Coag | and so i can do netinstall now |
| 08:40.08 | welson | Coag:http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html, also the other link I gave to your gave you precise instructions.. |
| 08:40.12 | litage | i want to teach a friend how to use linux, starting from the basics, to process control, security, server admin, etc. any docs that you'd recommend? |
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| 08:40.38 | So3kris | Good morning |
| 08:40.43 | simonrvn | rutebook |
| 08:40.44 | mwilson | litage: Don't YOU need to learn how to use it, first? |
| 08:40.53 | fooz | heheh |
| 08:41.02 | wingot | litage, the HOWTOs are all good, the Debian Hands on Guide are all good, but you should teach them yourself, that's the best way |
| 08:41.08 | wingot | it reinforces what you know at the same time |
| 08:41.18 | mwilson | fooz: You weren't here earlier.' |
| 08:41.21 | wingot | then again, if you don't know it, follow mwilson's advice :) |
| 08:41.32 | fooz | i think everyone capable of learning unix has already done so |
| 08:41.37 | boycer | laurens_: the neatest way would be to make an init script containing 'stop' and 'start' functionality, and making a link to this in /etc/rc2.d/ - this means some shell scripting, but there are plenty of howtos. |
| 08:41.41 | kadigibox | anyway I can print on the printer by "echo "something" > /dev/lp0" but I cant get cups to do anything on the printer |
| 08:41.44 | fooz | the rest still have trouble with the Start menu |
| 08:41.51 | litage | wingot: i'll be teaching them myself, but it's good to give them docs and such to go through and practice on their spare time, and then to come back with questions for me |
| 08:42.17 | litage | thanks for that doc wingot |
| 08:42.26 | wingot | ahh ok, well, there is a wealth of information on the internet :) |
| 08:42.45 | welson | litage: tldp.org of course! |
| 08:42.52 | wingot | look up the HOWTOs, see which ones are interesting, and look up Debian tutorials (google is your best friend) :) |
| 08:42.55 | wingot | tldp? |
| 08:43.00 | wingot | omw :) |
| 08:43.15 | wingot | ohh, the linux dev pages |
| 08:43.20 | wingot | doc* |
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| 08:43.23 | floppyears | debian-administraton.org |
| 08:43.25 | floppyears | is very useful |
| 08:43.39 | simonrvn | s/ton/tion/ |
| 08:43.47 | fooz | litage, get em a Slackware or OpenBSD box and teach em the man command |
| 08:44.08 | simonrvn | heh heh heh |
| 08:44.12 | fooz | simonrvn, it's how i learned |
| 08:44.15 | wingot | lol, gotta love the man :) |
| 08:44.30 | fooz | though nobody taught me the man command, i found it on my own |
| 08:44.30 | simonrvn | fooz: ;) |
| 08:44.31 | fooz | hehe |
| 08:44.43 | fooz | i didn't and still don't know any linux users IRL |
| 08:44.45 | wingot | fooz, you typed man man and found it didn't you ;) |
| 08:44.45 | So3kris | Is there no one that can help me white a promise driver ? |
| 08:44.53 | floppyears | apropos is a useful command too :) |
| 08:44.57 | simonrvn | man oh man ... |
| 08:44.59 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 08:45.02 | wingot | lol |
| 08:45.18 | simonrvn | man how do you use this anyway? |
| 08:45.19 | wingot | I don't like linux-admin, mainly because of the current 4th story :) |
| 08:45.26 | simonrvn | oh crap, that's a command! |
| 08:45.33 | simonrvn | *lightbulb* |
| 08:45.33 | welson | fooz: once you're a true man, you can then start saying rtfm |
| 08:45.35 | wingot | they put Debian and Unstable in the same sentence :@ |
| 08:45.37 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 08:45.51 | cmihai | Bug with ata_piix module prevent loading ide driver. |
| 08:45.51 | fooz | the openbsd faq is really good documentation though |
| 08:46.02 | So3kris | quit |
| 08:46.03 | So3kris | exit |
| 08:46.08 | simonrvn | cmihai: funny, works here |
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| 08:46.31 | simonrvn | @gravity++ |
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| 08:46.47 | cmihai | simonrvn: I rebuild initrd, and it works now. |
| 08:47.00 | fooz | welson, ok, true man |
| 08:47.03 | fooz | whatever that means |
| 08:47.20 | welson | fooz: coolman |
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| 08:48.10 | fooz | i gotta stop getting distracted from working on my PDA |
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| 08:48.28 | fooz | still haven't built that uclibc+debian based distro I meant to do for it |
| 08:49.21 | welson | is sftp supposed to be dying out of ssh? |
| 08:49.34 | simonrvn | what? |
| 08:50.55 | yaarg | haha |
| 08:51.47 | welson | i mean is the norm such that scp is supposed to replace sftp? |
| 08:52.10 | jm_ | huh? scp existed before sftp |
| 08:52.43 | simonrvn | welson: uh, since when? |
| 08:52.59 | fooz | rsync > scp |
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| 08:53.39 | Coag | just so you all know, i am going to be attempting a DEbian netinstall on an old 60mhz i586 |
| 08:53.51 | welson | fooz: ? |
| 08:53.58 | fooz | welson, @ |
| 08:54.03 | welson | that true? |
| 08:54.17 | fooz | yes, it is a fact: I shall be going to bed |
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| 08:56.55 | welson | nah... |
| 08:56.55 | simonrvn | cmihai: oh, good for you, btw |
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| 08:58.20 | shadowcat | how do you watch a dvd in debian? |
| 08:58.34 | simonrvn | with a dvd viewer |
| 08:58.52 | shadowcat | simonrvn: ya I know that |
| 08:58.57 | shadowcat | but when I start mplayer |
| 08:59.00 | shadowcat | it just crashes |
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| 08:59.08 | shadowcat | plays every other media file just fine for some reason |
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| 08:59.23 | madmax | guys, im running only linux atm, but i want to install windows xp,, due to dev reasons.. can i resize my partition somehow and install it without loosing data (like partition magic)? |
| 08:59.30 | torc | which tools can i use for ripping dvd? |
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| 09:00.25 | madmax | ups :D |
| 09:00.29 | madmax | so is there a way? |
| 09:00.34 | simonrvn | 'losing' ;). and yeh, parted |
| 09:00.42 | wingot | where theres a will, theres a way |
| 09:00.52 | madmax | simonrvn, shot! |
| 09:01.56 | wingot | lol, the Debian installer keeps detecting a floppy drive, and wanting to install the kernel drivers :) |
| 09:02.05 | wingot | it's a laptop, with no floppy drive :P |
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| 09:04.27 | torc | simonrvn: why does my powerbook dvd driver eject any dvd i put in? |
| 09:04.31 | torc | drive* |
| 09:05.15 | simonrvn | NFC. is the disc ok? |
| 09:05.39 | sour | maybe it isn't hungry |
| 09:05.41 | torc | yes. |
| 09:05.54 | torc | i tried with several ones ;) |
| 09:06.12 | simonrvn | did it get banged up recently? |
| 09:06.37 | torc | simonrvn: no, maybe that is the sarge installation cd, that broke it? |
| 09:06.59 | simonrvn | i very much doubt it. |
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| 09:07.23 | Maconly34 | Hi every body |
| 09:07.36 | simonrvn | i have a gcc 4 ftbfs issue here. bbl |
| 09:08.03 | wingot | when I get to the choice of kernels, I have kernelimages of 386, 686, and 686-smp. What are the 686's? |
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| 09:08.37 | torc | hdparm -i /dev/hdc does say, that its matshitadvd-r uj-815. maybe there are some region issues? |
| 09:08.43 | liable | !686 |
| 09:08.43 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel |
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| 09:10.14 | wingot | so for a P4 processor, the best option would be to use a 686 over a 386 kernel? |
| 09:10.18 | wingot | !smp |
| 09:10.18 | dpkg | somebody said smp was (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's |
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| 09:11.03 | bean | Does the FHS define a place for permanent mounts? e.g. a big second disk |
| 09:11.05 | wingot | would I be correct to assume that I should use the 686-smp kernel then for my P4 laptop? |
| 09:11.21 | torc | how do i install mplayer on sid? |
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| 09:11.26 | Phated | You would not, unless your laptop had two processors. |
| 09:11.30 | Maconly34 | nedd help to install Debian "Sarge" from CD on PB G4 : problem -> because a dead screen on my PB G4, I search how to set external display as primary |
| 09:11.32 | Phated | Or HT. |
| 09:11.46 | wingot | Phated, aren't P4's by default hyperthreaded? |
| 09:11.56 | Phated | Not a clue. Maybe. Check. |
| 09:12.17 | ttick | is there any way to instigate a coredump of a runnin program? |
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| 09:12.33 | jm_ | ttick: you can attach to it with gdb |
| 09:12.46 | Eulex | morning |
| 09:12.47 | ttick | jm_ okay, thanks |
| 09:13.16 | drac | wingot: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i flags (do you see 'ht' there? btw, if you don't it still could be hyperthreaded) |
| 09:13.20 | shadowcat | morning |
| 09:13.31 | mike-m | morning |
| 09:13.33 | cmihai | Maconly34: can't say much about PB, but on my x86 laptop, it's a laptop setting. You just plug in the external monitor, and it works. Sometimes on my stinkpad, I have to press FN + F7, so it's a laptop setting. I know, my LCD has a big hole in it :) |
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| 09:13.40 | Karnaugh | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 09:13.42 | Karnaugh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:13.45 | Karnaugh | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 09:13.47 | Karnaugh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:13.53 | Karnaugh | ok that wasnt what i ment to paste |
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| 09:14.00 | shadowcat | hmm |
| 09:14.05 | drac | Karnaugh: www.pastebin.com |
| 09:14.22 | Karnaugh | I wanted to just ask why there is an antidependancy with python-twisted and supybot |
| 09:14.36 | cmihai | Karnaugh: Sid ? |
| 09:14.40 | Karnaugh | cyes |
| 09:14.48 | cmihai | Get used to it. |
| 09:14.53 | Karnaugh | ... |
| 09:15.11 | Karnaugh | that doesnt make any sense |
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| 09:15.25 | b3nj | hi everybody, one stupid question. i've installed postgresql and i would like to use phppgadmin but I *really* don't know what is the default username/password to connect on the database |
| 09:15.32 | drac | Karnaugh: Unstable, being actually unstable makes some sense. |
| 09:15.34 | cmihai | Karnaugh: you're luck it only wants python-twisted out. If you're not carefull, there's some packages in sid that take out gnome, kde, X, etc. |
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| 09:16.20 | cmihai | There's some pretty neat stuff in Sid also, like udev wanting 2.6.12, but 2.6.11 available... you know. That's why it's called "unstable" :) |
| 09:16.37 | Eulex | !topicsmite Karnaugh |
| 09:16.38 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Karnaugh. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 09:16.41 | mike-m | :-) unstable ! |
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| 09:16.54 | cmihai | unstable, un-usable... whatever ;) |
| 09:16.58 | zite | if a readme says add xxx to my login settings, any idea what that might mean? |
| 09:17.00 | Karnaugh | why am I getting topic smited? |
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| 09:17.12 | Karnaugh | I dont see anything in the topic that answers my question really |
| 09:17.19 | cmihai | sid faq? |
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| 09:17.29 | drac | beware breakage? |
| 09:17.32 | jm_ | zite: how about being a bit more specific? |
| 09:17.33 | Eulex | Karnaugh, just a few big "beware sid breakage" in it |
| 09:17.47 | Karnaugh | that looks like its talking about gcc |
| 09:17.53 | Karnaugh | not supybot/python-twisted |
| 09:18.00 | Eulex | Karnaugh, and it affects everything else |
| 09:18.03 | zite | "you need to add the following to your login settings:" |
| 09:18.08 | jm_ | read the fucking changelogs and stop whining already |
| 09:18.12 | zite | then it lists a few lines of commands |
| 09:18.21 | Jooon | if you have several computers that should have the same debian packages installed, is there a good way to sync that, not using rsync or nfs or anything like that? |
| 09:18.21 | jm_ | what is listed as the follwoing? |
| 09:18.45 | b3nj | nobody here uses postgresql ? |
| 09:18.51 | cmihai | Jooon: something like apt-cache ? |
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| 09:19.06 | cmihai | I mean, apt-proxy |
| 09:19.11 | GooooGle | heh |
| 09:19.13 | cmihai | Or something like that. |
| 09:19.26 | Karnaugh | b3nj: yea, why? |
| 09:19.37 | zite | export PSPDEV="/usr/local/pspdev" |
| 09:19.38 | GooooGle | I just installed Debian from the NetInstall, configured PPP but when I try to connect using "pppd" it says this: http://pastebin.com/316103 |
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| 09:19.52 | jm_ | zite: that's for your shell |
| 09:20.17 | b3nj | Karnaugh: i'm not able to connect to my database with phppgadmin, and i'm asking about how to connect |
| 09:20.30 | Jooon | cmihai: those tools are good to have a local mirror, so you don't pull from a debian mirror all the time, but I want to make sure they have the same packages installed, and an easy way to install and remove for every computer. I could just write a small tool to tell me if they are out of sync, but I wondered if someone already had written it |
| 09:20.35 | Maconly34 | cmihai: When I start no problem, de screen show txt... but after to type "install" the las msg is "loading ramdisk" and the install switch on internal screen -> blind install |
| 09:20.35 | zite | so where should my shell login settings be? |
| 09:20.37 | jm_ | GooooGle: your pap/chap-secrets file are missing some entries |
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| 09:20.43 | umbop | hmm why when i click on a link i evolution it doesn't open it up in firefox? |
| 09:20.48 | umbop | despite firefox being my only browser |
| 09:20.50 | jm_ | in shell startup files |
| 09:21.01 | GooooGle | jm_: So what should I do now? :S |
| 09:21.14 | jm_ | GooooGle: is this PPPoE? |
| 09:21.20 | GooooGle | PPPoE ? :/ |
| 09:21.32 | zite | I guess I'm asking how to get there |
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| 09:21.45 | zite | or a specific file you're talking about |
| 09:21.49 | jm_ | zite: man <yourshell> - i.e. man bash, see FILES section |
| 09:21.51 | Karnaugh | b3nj: so then your question is probably more along the lines of phppgadmin - sorry cant help you there, I dont use nasty PHP tools |
| 09:22.00 | Eulex | hehe |
| 09:22.14 | zite | man bash o.0 that sounds like fun ^_^ |
| 09:22.15 | zite | thanks |
| 09:22.44 | b3nj | Karnaugh: thanks from a nasty boy |
| 09:22.45 | GooooGle | jm_: :S |
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| 09:24.36 | zite | sorry, I keep forgetting that help files in linux are actually, you know, helpful |
| 09:25.11 | simonrvn | zite: they are. good ol' *nix tradition |
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| 09:25.35 | POVaddct | zite: man bash, search for INVOCATION |
| 09:25.55 | GooooGle | jm_: I have entered everything correctly. Everything it asks for is there :? |
| 09:25.56 | GooooGle | :/ |
| 09:26.02 | concept10 | Anyone have detailed knowledge of gnome themes. I want to change the color of the title bars and input boxes |
| 09:26.08 | Maconly34 | need help to install Debian "Sarge" from CD on PB G4 : problem -> because a dead screen on my PB G4, I search how to set external display as primary |
| 09:26.09 | zite | I found it |
| 09:26.20 | jm_ | GooooGle: obviously not, how do you connect? |
| 09:26.39 | GooooGle | jm_: It's dialup. I entered everything it asked for "pppconfig" correctly. |
| 09:26.53 | Eulex | concept10, go look at some gtkrc's in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes |
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| 09:27.19 | jm_ | GooooGle: well enable debug for pppd, try to connect, read PPP Howto and check your logs |
| 09:28.02 | GooooGle | jm_: Right, but How do I enable debug? |
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| 09:28.37 | tbx | So. I've plugged in my usb external drive. Now what? |
| 09:28.52 | concept10 | Eulex, gtkrc means ? gimp tool kit ________ |
| 09:29.16 | Eulex | concept10, I dunno, but they contain theme settings |
| 09:29.33 | concept10 | Eulex, thanks anyway |
| 09:29.35 | liable | GooooGle: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27782.html |
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| 09:29.45 | GooooGle | liable: Ubuntu :| |
| 09:29.58 | liable | GooooGle: fucking read it.. |
| 09:30.14 | GooooGle | !oalify lilalinux |
| 09:30.24 | GooooGle | heh |
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| 09:30.40 | liable | *plonk* |
| 09:30.45 | jm_ | GooooGle: it's in options file |
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| 09:31.10 | GooooGle | jm_: Thanks, i'll read through it and ask if I have further problems. |
| 09:31.26 | concept10 | Eulex, thanks for that tip! |
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| 09:31.55 | Teufel | when I try to send an email it gives me this error: "relay not permitted" and I can't figure out which exim4 option I have wrong =x |
| 09:32.04 | jethro | @annoy liable |
| 09:32.04 | ravenbird | liable: bash: RTFM: command not found!!!!! |
| 09:32.11 | jethro | hi #debian |
| 09:32.23 | tosh | im trying to connect to my mysql database through odbc and I'm trying to test the connection using isql but I get the errormessage: [ISQL]ERROR: Could not SQLConnect. I have the correct credentials in /etc/odbc.ini any tips? |
| 09:32.33 | GooooGle | hang.,.. |
| 09:32.36 | So3kris | hello |
| 09:34.14 | tbx | So. I've plugged in my usb external drive. udev installed. usbmount installed. Nothing is appearing in fstab. What now? |
| 09:34.39 | liable | !confuse jethro |
| 09:34.39 | tosh | tbx see dmesg to see if a device name was created |
| 09:34.39 | dpkg | Yes, those is my gouda today, jethro? shirts of the people's republic of tibet with extra cream |
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| 09:35.33 | tbx | tosh: yes, sda has been found. |
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| 09:36.03 | liable | jethro: how'd the date go? |
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| 09:36.41 | spiorf | highvoltage, what does meat the "dfsg" in xorg package version (6.8.2.dfsg.1-3) ? |
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| 09:36.57 | spiorf | highvoltage, this autocomplete SUCKS |
| 09:37.11 | tbx | tosh: ... and I have manually created fstab entries. Thanks for the tip. |
| 09:37.23 | tbx | tosh: all is good now. |
| 09:37.41 | drac | spiorf: debian free software guideline |
| 09:37.45 | mc____ | hi, i wanted to upload a backup on my server with following command: ssh user@server "cat /backup/hda1.tar.gz" | tar -xpz -C / but cat cant find the file although it is there |
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| 09:38.09 | drac | spiorf: some 'non-free' fonts that are in X.Org are removed from X.Org packages in Debian. |
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| 09:38.27 | spiorf | thanks drak |
| 09:38.37 | EruditeHermit | is there a way of telling whether a system is using a swap partition? |
| 09:39.13 | cmihai | just type free... |
| 09:39.28 | petemc | mc____: didnt you untar it to / ? |
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| 09:39.42 | EruditeHermit | cmihai: Swap: 0 0 0 |
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| 09:39.55 | cmihai | man swapon. |
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| 09:40.02 | drac | EruditeHermit: You don't have swap. |
| 09:41.04 | EruditeHermit | swapon: /dev/hda6: Invalid argument |
| 09:41.10 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 09:41.15 | EruditeHermit | drac: I do, it just stopped working for some reason |
| 09:41.16 | tbx | why when I do mv -f or cp -f does it still ask for confirmation? |
| 09:41.30 | EruditeHermit | drac: atleast I have a partition designated for it |
| 09:41.34 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: check if hda6 *really* is the swap partition |
| 09:41.36 | EruditeHermit | drac: and its in fstab |
| 09:41.40 | jethro | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:41.42 | jethro | oups |
| 09:41.43 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
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| 09:42.03 | EruditeHermit | /dev/hda6 6778 6838 489951 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
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| 09:42.37 | Teufel | Could someone throw me a good link to read up on how the /<number> is explained in IP addresses? For example, I know 192.168.1.0/24 = 192.168.1.0-255 but I don't know why... |
| 09:42.46 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: cat /proc/mounts | grep hda6 (just to be sure) |
| 09:43.09 | EruditeHermit | POVaddct: nothing |
| 09:43.17 | drac | EruditeHermit: /dev/hda6 none swap sw 0 0, or what do you have in fstab ? |
| 09:43.18 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: mkswap /dev/hda6 |
| 09:43.29 | petemc | Teufel: google for define cidr |
| 09:43.42 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: then: swapon -a |
| 09:43.42 | EruditeHermit | drac: yep |
| 09:43.55 | Teufel | petemc: thanks |
| 09:44.10 | EruditeHermit | POVaddct: seemed to work |
| 09:44.20 | EruditeHermit | POVaddct: what happened to my swap? |
| 09:44.26 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: dunno |
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| 09:45.12 | EruditeHermit | POVaddct: will it be automounted at boot from now on ( I have an entry for it in fstab) |
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| 09:45.22 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: yes |
| 09:45.28 | EruditeHermit | POVaddct: ok thanks |
| 09:45.32 | EruditeHermit | weird |
| 09:46.03 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: btw, swap isn't "mounted", i check /proc/mounts just in case it is mounted as a file system |
| 09:46.17 | jm_ | heh interesting things for listed for dpkg 2.0 |
| 09:46.59 | EruditeHermit | POVaddct: would not having a swap effect boot time? |
| 09:47.36 | POVaddct | EruditeHermit: no, if the init script can't activate swap, you simply have less virtual memory |
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| 09:50.28 | harsha | Hi everyone! |
| 09:50.53 | harsha | The sarge installer has issues with fonts. |
| 09:51.10 | harsha | My emacs fonts are screwed up. Has anyone gone through this? |
| 09:51.44 | harsha | am I missing some font packages? |
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| 09:53.48 | Grievre | dpkg, ubuntu? |
| 09:53.48 | dpkg | methinks ubuntu is a see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 or "Based on Debian" |
| 09:53.52 | Teufel | petemc: I don't quite understand CIDR: If I wanted to include EVERY IP address into my network (0-255.0-255.0-255.0-255) would that mean like 192.168.1.0/1 ? |
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| 09:54.54 | Grievre | Teufel: 0.0.0.0/0 |
| 09:55.23 | Teufel | Grievre: so 0.0.0.0/1 would be leaving out 32 bits right? |
| 09:55.30 | Grievre | or anything /0 really |
| 09:55.35 | Grievre | no /1 would be leaving out 31 bits |
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| 09:55.56 | Grievre | 0.0.0.0/1 would be all IPs from 0.0.0.0-127.255.255.255 |
| 09:56.37 | Teufel | Grievre: ah, |
| 09:57.59 | Teufel | Grievre: so thats not really referring to the 'real' ipaddress, but just the sub one through a router or what not using CIDR right? |
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| 09:59.43 | Teufel | Anyone have any suggestions on a VPN daemon? Anyone dislike openvpn? |
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| 10:01.14 | d03boy | i couldnt get openvpn to work... but im sure you could |
| 10:01.24 | d03boy | i cant even get my scroll wheel to work :\ |
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| 10:01.41 | Rawplayer | Teufel: openvpn is fine |
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| 10:01.44 | Teufel | d03boy: I'm sure you know more about linux than I do... but I'll try, no harm in that eh? |
| 10:01.47 | Rawplayer | it works gr8 |
| 10:02.22 | turlututu | hey, does anyone use guarddog ? i need to know a little thing |
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| 10:03.00 | Teufel | Rawplayer: let me see if I am thinking of this correctly. If I have my exim4 configuration to only let people on my network (192.168.1.0/24) to send out mail, then when someone connects with vpn from somewhere else, it will let them too right? |
| 10:03.01 | Eulex | !anyone |
| 10:03.01 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 10:03.22 | d03boy | using xev I find that my forward/back buttons on my mouse are the same as my left and right click buttons. What determines this? I need to fix it |
| 10:03.33 | turlututu | sorry i speak french :p |
| 10:03.36 | Rawplayer | depends if you allow the network on the otherside of the vpn |
| 10:03.47 | d03boy | !ask |
| 10:03.47 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic (sicco)! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 10:03.59 | Eulex | !fr |
| 10:03.59 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 10:04.10 | petemc | Teufel: the vpn should make those people appear as if they're on the 192.168 network |
| 10:04.15 | turlututu | ok thx |
| 10:04.15 | Rawplayer | !ppc |
| 10:04.15 | dpkg | rumour has it, ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc, or not going to be used by Apple much longer |
| 10:04.22 | petemc | quit that |
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| 10:04.33 | Teufel | petemc: so I would need to broaden my range form exim4 right? |
| 10:04.37 | GooooGle | ok I configured /etc/ppp/options and set "auth" to "noauth". I bypassed the first step but now it just hangs here: http://pastebin.com/316129 :::: I even tried different ports for the modem, nothing. |
| 10:04.42 | petemc | Teufel: no |
| 10:05.17 | Eulex | GooooGle, is there an option to run it in verbose mode? |
| 10:05.28 | petemc | Teufel: personally i use smtp auth to allow my users to relay |
| 10:05.31 | Wazup | What is the signal for ctrl-z? I can't seem to know which one it is in signal(7), I first thought it was SIGINT but it isn't. |
| 10:05.40 | GooooGle | Eulex: Havent seen it. But it just hangs there :/ |
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| 10:05.56 | Teufel | petemc: could you help me get that going? or point me to a link? |
| 10:05.59 | petemc | Wazup: susp |
| 10:06.22 | Teufel | petemc: that is what I wanted to do originally but I couldn't send out mail from outside the network when connecting with thunderbird or outlook |
| 10:06.24 | petemc | Teufel: there are many different ways to do it |
| 10:07.07 | petemc | Teufel: less /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.SMTP-AUTH |
| 10:07.15 | Wazup | petemc: But that isn't in the man page for POSIX signals :S |
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| 10:08.44 | petemc | Wazup: man 2 sigsuspend ? |
| 10:08.50 | kekkeri | ciao a tutti :] |
| 10:09.03 | GooooGle | Eulex ? |
| 10:09.03 | petemc | Wazup: apropos signal |
| 10:09.14 | jm_ | Wazup: I don't think you get a signal for that |
| 10:09.29 | Eulex | !tell kekkeri about it |
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| 10:10.00 | Eulex | GooooGle, verbose mode usually shows more info about what it is trying to do |
| 10:10.21 | Wazup | petemc: Thanks! I should have caught that one, I feel bad. |
| 10:10.21 | kekkeri | !tell kekkeri about al |
| 10:10.27 | GooooGle | Ermm, i'll have a look at the options file if there is a verbose mode. Reboot................ |
| 10:10.39 | Wazup | jm_: I'll give sigsuspend a try and let you know in a couple. |
| 10:10.47 | kekkeri | jii ^^___^ |
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| 10:11.02 | Teufel | petemc: thanks, I gave that a read, I'll try and figure it out tomorrow, ganna get some sleep |
| 10:11.07 | jm_ | Wazup: sigsuspend is something entirely different |
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| 10:13.23 | _linuxAS_ | hi |
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| 10:13.36 | liable | GooooGle: are you trying to start a pppd connection, by running 'pppd'? |
| 10:13.50 | kekkeri | miii ganstaaa :~~) |
| 10:14.21 | jm_ | GooooGle: I told you to enable debug mode |
| 10:14.45 | jm_ | GooooGle: and you should really use pon to connect |
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| 10:15.02 | jm_ | that explains why it's "hanging" |
| 10:15.11 | Crumpet | has anybody got kernel 2.6.12.3 ? |
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| 10:15.29 | jm_ | Crumpet: I suppose many people have it |
| 10:15.36 | Crumpet | im having trouble finding the 4kstacks option |
| 10:15.37 | boycer | Crumpet: I do... |
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| 10:15.43 | Jeffro | hi |
| 10:15.43 | rixth | !anybody |
| 10:15.44 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 10:15.51 | boycer | Crumpet: but I don't know about that I'm afraid :( |
| 10:15.52 | Jeffro | i need someserious help |
| 10:15.52 | Wazup | jm_: you are right. Hmm, so there isn't a signal for ctrl-Z :( |
| 10:16.00 | Crumpet | and i think i need it for the nvidia driver to work |
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| 10:16.06 | kekkeri | is my kernel stable + |
| 10:16.08 | Wazup | That ain't cool. |
| 10:16.08 | kekkeri | ? |
| 10:16.09 | Jeffro | i made a mistake in the fstab file, now my system is readonly |
| 10:16.10 | kekkeri | keko@debian:~$ uname -a |
| 10:16.10 | kekkeri | Linux debian 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 10:16.10 | kekkeri | keko@debian:~$ |
| 10:16.17 | Jeffro | so i can't boot debian |
| 10:16.23 | jm_ | Wazup: nope |
| 10:16.35 | kekkeri | my kerrnel <3 :D |
| 10:16.38 | Jeffro | Im on Windows XP now can i edit the fstab file from here? |
| 10:16.39 | kekkeri | hehe |
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| 10:16.56 | Crumpet | anybody no where i can fnd the CONFIG_4KSTACKS in kernel 2.6.12.3? |
| 10:17.00 | drac | Crumpet: Kernel Hacking, in Menuconfig. There is Search too, with / key. |
| 10:17.01 | Teemu_K_ | Jeffro: no you don't, but |
| 10:17.07 | Eulex | Jeffro, use a live cd |
| 10:17.12 | Jeffro | i did |
| 10:17.14 | Crumpet | u tried cant see it |
| 10:17.20 | Jeffro | I tried knoppix |
| 10:17.21 | Crumpet | i* |
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| 10:17.25 | Jeffro | but i cant save the file |
| 10:17.29 | yaarg | Crumpet: grep 'CONFIG_4KSTACKS' config |
| 10:17.36 | Eulex | Crumpet, it *is* there |
| 10:17.37 | yaarg | Crumpet: .config |
| 10:17.39 | antenagora | bye all |
| 10:17.45 | Guerin | Crumpet: you're fucking unqualified to configure a kernel if you can't use menuconfig |
| 10:17.50 | Teemu_K_ | Jeffro: boot that install cd and go to single state or something, and moun then that harddrive/partition and edit, save |
| 10:17.55 | yaarg | LOL @ Guerin |
| 10:17.57 | Guerin | Crumpet: use a debian kernel image; they work perfectly. |
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| 10:18.10 | Jeffro | single state... |
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| 10:18.21 | Jeffro | how to do that im using network install cd |
| 10:18.33 | Teemu_K_ | Jeffro: butbut, what that knoppix said when you tried to save? |
| 10:18.37 | Crumpet | nope |
| 10:18.41 | rixth | Crumpet, if you can't use menuconfig, you should be using offcial Debian kernels |
| 10:18.42 | ricky_clarkson | If computer A sends an ARP request or reply to computer B, and computer C notices it, will computer C do anything with the data in it? |
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| 10:18.48 | Crumpet | grep CONFIG_4KSTACKS .config |
| 10:18.52 | Jeffro | that its readonly |
| 10:18.53 | Guerin | Jeffro: mount your root and chroot |
| 10:18.53 | Crumpet | returns nothing |
| 10:18.56 | Jeffro | i tried to remount |
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| 10:19.02 | rixth | Crumpet, bullshit. |
| 10:19.03 | Guerin | Jeffro: man mount |
| 10:19.04 | Jeffro | its mounter on default |
| 10:19.08 | Teemu_K_ | Jeffro: you have mounted it using wrong flags |
| 10:19.12 | Guerin | Crumpet: then you're fucked. use a debian kernel. |
| 10:19.16 | Crumpet | you want a screen shot? |
| 10:19.24 | ricky_clarkson | I want a user shot. |
| 10:19.24 | rixth | Crumpet, did you put it in all caps? |
| 10:19.24 | Jeffro | but its mounted on defaulkt |
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| 10:19.29 | Jeffro | and i cant unmount it |
| 10:19.32 | Guerin | Crumpet: seriously, you're too useless for this. Give up. |
| 10:19.38 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd1 |
| 10:19.38 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
| 10:19.42 | Guerin | arr |
| 10:19.43 | rixth | Guerin, he should be using gconfig. |
| 10:19.51 | Guerin | rixth: no, he shouldn't be using anything |
| 10:19.51 | rixth | If anything, at his level, |
| 10:19.53 | Crumpet | ive even searched for it in the arch specific configs |
| 10:20.00 | Guerin | gconfig is buggy as shite |
| 10:20.19 | drac | Crumpet: Kernel Hacking, in Menuconfig. There is Search too, with / key. WHAT PART OF THAT YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND? |
| 10:20.23 | ricky_clarkson | Guerin: You should take a sample of your stool to a medic, if so. |
| 10:20.33 | yaarg | < Crumpet> you want a screen shot? <-- lol, best line eva |
| 10:20.41 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd0 |
| 10:20.41 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
| 10:20.48 | Teemu_K_ | dpkg: :P |
| 10:20.48 | dpkg | from memory, p is 1. piano (musical direction) 2. proton |
| 10:20.51 | Teemu_K_ | drac: :P |
| 10:20.53 | Guerin | oh, cruel /dev/random |
| 10:21.02 | ricky_clarkson | Guerin: Verily. |
| 10:21.07 | Jeffro | ok, how do i get in single state on the install cd? |
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| 10:21.26 | Guerin | wtf is single state? |
| 10:21.35 | jm_ | probably single user mode |
| 10:21.41 | Guerin | Jeffro: you don;'t need to |
| 10:21.41 | Jeffro | <Teemu_K_> Jeffro: boot that install cd and go to single state or something, and moun then that harddrive/partition and edit, save |
| 10:21.56 | Guerin | just mount your fucking / rw and chroot |
| 10:22.06 | Guerin | Teemu_K_ is delusional |
| 10:22.10 | Jeffro | ok |
| 10:22.10 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: How are you mounting? |
| 10:22.12 | Jeffro | il try |
| 10:22.24 | Jeffro | mount /dev/hdc2 / |
| 10:22.36 | Guerin | Jeffro: bah |
| 10:22.36 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: Try mkdir /tmp/newroot |
| 10:22.38 | Jeffro | but i could before cause KNOPPIX is mounting itself |
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| 10:22.40 | Guerin | man mount |
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| 10:22.45 | Guerin | and think about it a little bit |
| 10:22.45 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: Then mount /dev/hdc2 /tmp/newroot |
| 10:22.49 | Crumpet | still cant find it, i know where it supposed to be a did it with 2.6.12.2 about 4 days ago |
| 10:22.54 | Jeffro | ok |
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| 10:22.55 | Jeffro | il try |
| 10:22.56 | GoOOgLE | Eulex: No such thing as verbose and it still hangs :[ |
| 10:23.00 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: Then chroot /tmp/newroot |
| 10:23.02 | Jeffro | il come back if it fails |
| 10:23.05 | Jeffro | chroot? |
| 10:23.09 | Guerin | i'm sure you will... |
| 10:23.10 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: man chroot |
| 10:23.11 | Jeffro | is that like cd |
| 10:23.14 | Guerin | NO |
| 10:23.15 | Jeffro | cd tmp |
| 10:23.19 | Eulex | GoOOgLE, how am I supposed to know? |
| 10:23.35 | Guerin | wow, stupidity factor 100 in here today |
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| 10:23.37 | Jeffro | i should be able to mount as root |
| 10:23.40 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: It's like cd, except that it puts your whole environment at the directory you specify. |
| 10:23.43 | Vinland | What causes segmentation faults? Bad ram? |
| 10:23.47 | Guerin | Jeffro: FUCK OFF AND READ man mount |
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| 10:23.53 | Guerin | DO IT NOW |
| 10:23.53 | ricky_clarkson | Guerin: Calm down, flower. |
| 10:23.54 | Jeffro | and type nano /tmp/newroot/fstab |
| 10:24.02 | ricky_clarkson | Guerin: Calm down dear, it's only a mouse. |
| 10:24.07 | Guerin | STOP WASTING OUR FUCKING TIME |
| 10:24.07 | jm_ | Vinland: might be, or bugs |
| 10:24.09 | Guerin | etc. |
| 10:24.09 | Jeffro | then i can save it yes? |
| 10:24.20 | Guerin | Vinland: /msg dpkg sig11 |
| 10:24.24 | Vinland | jm_ - My whole debian box crapped out |
| 10:24.25 | jm_ | Jeffro: you have our permission |
| 10:24.29 | Jeffro | lol |
| 10:24.30 | Jeffro | ok |
| 10:24.31 | tosh | im trying to connect to my mysql database through odbc and I'm trying to test the connection using isql but I get the errormessage: [ISQL]ERROR: Could not SQLConnect. I have the correct credentials in /etc/odbc.ini any tips? |
| 10:24.31 | kekkeri | :d hahah |
| 10:24.33 | jm_ | Vinland: use memtest86* |
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| 10:24.38 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: I've given you instructions. |
| 10:24.40 | Vinland | it started with segmentation faults, then when I went to reboot it wont reboot |
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| 10:24.46 | Vinland | it just hands trying to start mysql |
| 10:24.47 | Jeffro | btw i know how to mount but it WAS ALREADY mounted |
| 10:24.51 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: I'd recommend getting a separate box to IRC from at the same time. |
| 10:25.02 | Jeffro | im on winxp now |
| 10:25.14 | Jeffro | xchat-text woulndt work |
| 10:25.16 | ricky_clarkson | Jeffro: Right. Get another WinXP box to IRC from. |
| 10:25.23 | GoOOgLE | jm_: I disabled auth as the problem was earlier. Now it does say PPP Generic drivers etc. etc. but then it just hangs there. I have tried changing protocols and modem ports too, still nothing. |
| 10:25.29 | liable | Jeffro: get the root terminal in knoppix, umount it, remount it read write, edit done... |
| 10:25.40 | Jeffro | ok |
| 10:25.42 | Jeffro | thats clear |
| 10:25.46 | Jeffro | cya soon |
| 10:25.49 | yaarg | lol |
| 10:25.52 | yaarg | bet we don't |
| 10:25.54 | kekkeri | i need exploits!!! |
| 10:26.05 | ricky_clarkson | kekkeri: I'll exploit you if you like. |
| 10:26.17 | ricky_clarkson | !exploit kekkeri |
| 10:26.24 | jm_ | GoOOgLE: someone else and me have told you not to start pppd like that, use pon -- this is explained in /usr/share/doc/pppd so read everything in there |
| 10:26.39 | kekkeri | :] |
| 10:26.43 | GoOOgLE | k. |
| 10:26.58 | Eulex | kekkeri, subscribe to debian-security-announce |
| 10:27.02 | ricky_clarkson | !cmd: exploit (.*?) =~ s/sow/sew/ |
| 10:27.11 | ricky_clarkson | St00pid bot. |
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| 10:27.41 | drac | !tell smhar about away |
| 10:27.55 | kekkeri | ^__^ |
| 10:28.02 | kekkeri | jävla mamma :) |
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| 10:28.32 | Internat | did that actually do something, the tell thing? |
| 10:28.37 | Internat | !tell internat about away |
| 10:28.49 | ricky_clarkson | Internat: /msg dpkg away |
| 10:29.01 | Eulex | kekkeri, stop trolling |
| 10:29.09 | Internat | aha! |
| 10:29.13 | ricky_clarkson | Internat: /msg dpkg help tell |
| 10:29.31 | kekkeri | ricky_clarkson: dont need to sploit me :/ but i need good source :P |
| 10:29.43 | ricky_clarkson | kekkeri: Try the Linux source. |
| 10:29.43 | kekkeri | Eulex: ill fuq u |
| 10:29.48 | ricky_clarkson | It might not be good, but it's amusing. |
| 10:29.57 | umbop | hmm i can't get my screens to share, i have a laptop, and another lcd screen, and i want to share them both |
| 10:30.27 | ricky_clarkson | umbop: Share as in VNC, same image on both, Xinerama, or what? |
| 10:30.30 | kekkeri | :/ lamah |
| 10:30.36 | ricky_clarkson | Not that I could answer, either way. |
| 10:30.58 | umbop | ricky_clarkson: share as in, basically the two screens act as one big screen |
| 10:31.05 | kekkeri | a ki a ski thuj riki |
| 10:31.06 | kekkeri | :D |
| 10:31.11 | liable | !xinerama |
| 10:31.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, xinerama is where you have several monitors but only one logical desktop -- XFree86 4.0 has it!, or http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html |
| 10:31.19 | umbop | ooo thats what i need |
| 10:31.37 | ricky_clarkson | Well, there's a nice friendly howto there. |
| 10:31.45 | umbop | yeh reading now thanks, also have one other question |
| 10:31.54 | umbop | how do i set it so any link in a window opens in firefox |
| 10:32.05 | umbop | as it stands, if i click on a link i evolution or another app, nothing happens |
| 10:32.11 | ricky_clarkson | umbop: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 10:32.21 | umbop | thanks |
| 10:32.40 | ricky_clarkson | Can somebody ban or even k-line kekkeri please? |
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| 10:33.03 | Crumpet | im really not wasting your time ive tried looking in kernel hacking, searching with / in menuconfig, grep'ing for CONFIG_4KSTACKS in .config and the Kconfigs in the arch's |
| 10:33.06 | ricky_clarkson | "<kekkeri> do u have or not... i can give 1000 bots 4 a source" |
| 10:33.22 | ricky_clarkson | !ops kekkeri seems to want to be removed (see above) |
| 10:33.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: kekkeri seems to want to be removed (see above) |
| 10:33.25 | simonrvn | ricky_clarkson: #freenode |
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| 10:33.50 | kekkeri | wtf!!!!! dats mudafuka!!! dats not my wirted!!! |
| 10:33.56 | umbop | hmm i get No alternatives for --x-www-browser. |
| 10:33.57 | ricky_clarkson | simonrvn: LoRez is a staffer, he's been highlighted now. |
| 10:34.01 | Eulex | ricky_clarkson, he /msg'ed you? |
| 10:34.11 | ricky_clarkson | umbop: You have to press the keys according to what you want to appear. |
| 10:34.22 | ricky_clarkson | Eulex: He did, based on #debian chatter. |
| 10:34.22 | kekkeri | hell NO! |
| 10:34.23 | simonrvn | kekkeri: go back to school, you skipping classes or something? |
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| 10:34.25 | kekkeri | :> |
| 10:34.35 | toresbe | kekkeri: servinmoekki perkele kiitos. |
| 10:34.37 | toresbe | kekkeri: tukka. |
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| 10:34.56 | drac | toresbe: servinmoekki ? |
| 10:34.58 | kekkeri | i call bolice! |
| 10:35.07 | ricky_clarkson | I call the barmy |
| 10:35.11 | drac | toresbe: that's not finnish :) |
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| 10:35.24 | toresbe | Servinmökki! |
| 10:35.26 | Eulex | I call the bilitary |
| 10:35.26 | kekkeri | bolice <# |
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| 10:35.28 | kekkeri | bolice <3 |
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| 10:35.40 | drac | hah |
| 10:35.41 | simonrvn | exbloit |
| 10:35.52 | ricky_clarkson | I think we have a bidiot. |
| 10:35.53 | poliisi | -.- |
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| 10:35.59 | jix | hi |
| 10:36.06 | toresbe | poliisi: saatani perkele |
| 10:36.09 | simonrvn | ricky_clarkson: indeed |
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| 10:36.13 | poliisi | :D |
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| 10:36.34 | ricky_clarkson | Shit, I just wrote BarpPacket in my source code.. ;( |
| 10:36.36 | umbop | ricky_clarkson: sorry, i don't quite understand, i have to press the keys according to what i want to display? i tried update-alternatives --list --x-www-browser |
| 10:36.41 | simonrvn | toresbe: could you tell the little script kiddie to go away? kthx |
| 10:36.48 | poliisi | you all re underarrested!!!! KÄDET YLÖS HOUSUT ALAS!!! |
| 10:36.51 | ricky_clarkson | umbop: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 10:36.56 | ricky_clarkson | umbop: That isn't the same. |
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| 10:37.04 | simonrvn | better than getting overarrested |
| 10:37.13 | umbop | oh sorry |
| 10:37.27 | ricky_clarkson | "umbop: You have to press the keys according to what you want to appear." - now you see why I said that? ;) |
| 10:37.49 | majk | Hi, when I have tmpfs (/dev/shm)..users can write there and they can eat RAM, so is possible to set any quota to tmpfs ? I've tryied it, but kernel write tmpfs: No value for mount option 'usrquota'. Any way how to solve it ? |
| 10:38.00 | toresbe | poliisi: Uskalias matka. |
| 10:38.05 | jm_ | majk: read tmpfs.txt |
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| 10:38.15 | umbop | aye thanks :) |
| 10:38.29 | Wazup | jm_: Found it SIGTSTP, that would catch ctrl-z |
| 10:38.33 | trc | for three days already aptitude update + aptitude upgrade wants to remove nearly 3 gigs in sid, leaving the whole system naked: don't upgrade! wait until when, anyone knows? |
| 10:38.36 | toresbe | poliisi: Kohtalokas tapaaminen... Syöksee maailmat sotaan |
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| 10:38.52 | Eulex | trc, until it's fixed |
| 10:39.14 | trc | yeap, hoping someone would say: later today or so |
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| 10:39.40 | toresbe | poliisi: Kun rauhan keinot on käytetty, on aika lämmittää tuikkupankit! |
| 10:39.54 | jm_ | Wazup: well I don't think it's quite like that |
| 10:40.11 | toresbe | poliisi: Ei armoa! |
| 10:40.30 | toresbe | poliisi: Ei pakoa! |
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| 10:40.37 | jix | what is the easiest way to remove all optional software packages? |
| 10:40.47 | Wazup | jm_: I tried it, it works well. When I do a ctrl-z form the tty, it would catch it and handel it they way I tell it to. Any how, just wanted to let you know. |
| 10:41.05 | yuacht | when my friend tries to upload stuff to my ftp he gets "directory listing failed", but i can do it from my internal network so what's the problem? |
| 10:41.28 | toresbe | poliisi: Valmistaudu vuosisadan turpakäräjiin!! |
| 10:42.20 | liable | jix: like in kde or gnome? try debfoster and deborphan |
| 10:42.23 | nagual | yuacht: probably nat and passive/active mode |
| 10:42.31 | nagual | open 20 AND 21 |
| 10:42.38 | nagual | and use passive |
| 10:42.45 | jm_ | Wazup: strace doesn't confirm this |
| 10:43.04 | yuacht | nagual, ok |
| 10:43.04 | yuacht | thx |
| 10:43.17 | majk | works quota on /dev/shm (tmpfs) ? |
| 10:43.27 | jix | liable: no all software that i ever installed on the computer and that is not needed for apt/dpkg and debian |
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| 10:44.11 | Wazup | jm_: Hmm, I'll look into it tomorrow, its getting late. Thanks for the info dude! |
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| 10:44.34 | jix | it's a vserver and the hoster wants money for a re-install |
| 10:44.55 | jm_ | Wazup: I remember I was calling sending SIGTSTP myself in my S-Lang based irc client (the one I am using now) |
| 10:45.06 | jm_ | Wazup: that's how it's done in ircii too IIRC |
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| 10:45.54 | jeffro | heyyyy |
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| 10:46.00 | yuacht | nagual, but i changed my default port to 2121, so should i still unlock that and 20? |
| 10:46.09 | jeffro | Im in KDE finlly |
| 10:46.57 | jeffro | but i still have to umount an mount my windows partition -.-" |
| 10:47.13 | Eulex | jeffro, set up your fstab |
| 10:47.18 | jeffro | i did |
| 10:47.23 | jeffro | i think it was good |
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| 10:47.36 | Eulex | jeffro, it obviously ain't if it ain't working |
| 10:47.52 | jeffro | /dev/hdc1/windowsntfsdefaults,umask=022,errors=remount-ro00 |
| 10:48.03 | jeffro | what wrong with the line? |
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| 10:48.07 | liable | !vfatrw |
| 10:48.07 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS. |
| 10:48.11 | Eulex | jeffro, mount ir ro |
| 10:48.25 | jix | does apt complains if it deinstalls itself or something it depends on? |
| 10:48.26 | jeffro | read only? |
| 10:48.27 | Eulex | *it |
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| 10:48.44 | jeffro | umask=022 this is readonly |
| 10:48.49 | jm_ | no it's not |
| 10:49.06 | jeffro | while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x |
| 10:49.31 | yuacht | nagual, u here? |
| 10:49.33 | Internat | so.. are the umasks for that inverted? |
| 10:49.35 | liable | !ntfsro |
| 10:49.39 | snail | i've been trying to subscript to some of the debian mailing lists, but I haven't recieved the expected confirmation email. is anyone else seeing issues? |
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| 10:49.44 | Eulex | jeffro, /dev/sda2 /windows ntfs ro,user,umask=0222 0 0 |
| 10:50.03 | Internat | u have 2 many 2's |
| 10:50.04 | shaiW | is there any argument I need to use to make mkisofs include all subfolders in a given directory? |
| 10:50.04 | jeffro | can i change sda? |
| 10:50.07 | poliisi | heheh :D |
| 10:50.13 | jeffro | i have hdc1 |
| 10:50.16 | Wazup | jm_: I don't know why it worked for me, I was looking into google and search string "SIGTSTP ctrl-z" comes up with 800+ sites, examples too. I mean I'm trying it right now and it works. You might be right though. For now I say piece out, I'm off to bed. |
| 10:50.21 | jm_ | shaiW: call it correctly and it will |
| 10:50.21 | poliisi | peace <3 |
| 10:50.22 | poliisi | :) |
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| 10:50.25 | drac | jeffro: No you can't, you must. |
| 10:50.33 | jeffro | lol |
| 10:50.36 | jeffro | !lol |
| 10:50.36 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a ubuntu user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 10:50.41 | shaiW | mkisofs * -o ps.iso ? |
| 10:50.43 | Eulex | Internat, yeah, I do -- will change it to umask=022 |
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| 10:50.53 | jm_ | no, pass it the dir, not * |
| 10:51.19 | Eulex | jeffro, of course you should change it to the right device |
| 10:51.20 | yuacht | what do you guys have against ubuntu? :P |
| 10:51.37 | drac | yuacht: Nothing, but it's off-topic here. |
| 10:51.40 | kekkeri | ubunti sounds like bolice :P |
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| 10:51.45 | jeffro | ok |
| 10:51.46 | ronino | hi |
| 10:51.47 | kekkeri | too african :D |
| 10:51.51 | nagual | yuacht: |
| 10:51.58 | jeffro | ubuntu is NOT debianj |
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| 10:52.18 | nagual | i use ubuntu also |
| 10:52.20 | ronino | i have installed 3.1 and now want to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel, what do i have to do? |
| 10:52.50 | guigui | hasn't 3.1 already a 2.6 kernel ? |
| 10:52.52 | phillijw | i ctrl+alt+backspaced out of X, and got a few XFree errors, how do I get back to the login screen or whatever? |
| 10:52.54 | nagual | but i must say, i prefer debian a lot, loads of odd small stuff happening on ubuntu i dont experience on debain, ever. |
| 10:52.57 | ronino | apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 lists serveral packages |
| 10:52.59 | drac | ronino: "apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6", "apt-get install one of them" |
| 10:53.00 | jeffro | ok |
| 10:53.01 | nagual | guigui: yes |
| 10:53.02 | jeffro | im gonna reboot |
| 10:53.08 | Eulex | ronino, you don't upgrade to 2.6, you just install it and select it the nest time you reboot |
| 10:53.12 | liable | phillijw: alt +f7 |
| 10:53.14 | ronino | drac: hehe, the question is, which one? |
| 10:53.24 | phillijw | thanks |
| 10:53.25 | drac | ronino: What kind of CPU do you have ? |
| 10:53.27 | ronino | Eulex: i see |
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| 10:53.35 | ronino | drac: a 1 ghz pentium III |
| 10:53.42 | drac | ronino: 686 one then. |
| 10:53.45 | Eulex | ronino, you still keep the old one |
| 10:53.55 | ronino | drac: kernel-image-2.6-686? |
| 10:54.01 | drac | ronino: sure. |
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| 10:54.13 | phillijw | alt+f7 didnt do anything :\ |
| 10:54.15 | ronino | Eulex: okay, so i need to edit the grub.conf to make the 2.6 the default one? |
| 10:54.19 | Eulex | ronino, you mean kernel-image-2.6.8-686 |
| 10:54.31 | liable | phillijw: sorry, yeah, startx or whatever. |
| 10:54.37 | Eulex | ronino, it will probably automatically become the default one |
| 10:54.41 | drac | Eulex: kernel-image-2.6-686 is meta-package for latest 2.6 available, so it works too. |
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| 10:54.48 | Eulex | drac, oh, ok |
| 10:54.57 | ronino | Eulex: okay, i'll see |
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| 10:55.21 | phillijw | i did startx, but it took me to my old desktop.. i'd prefer either the one I was on, or the login screen |
| 10:55.28 | yuacht | where can i check what ports are in use by apps? |
| 10:55.34 | liable | phillijw: what dm? |
| 10:55.40 | phillijw | gdm |
| 10:55.49 | phillijw | i think.. |
| 10:56.01 | liable | phillijw: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 10:56.05 | cahoot | yuacht: lsof -i |
| 10:56.05 | phillijw | thanks |
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| 10:56.15 | jix | dselect has 3 groups Required, Standard and Optional is there a way to list all installed optional packages? |
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| 10:56.29 | priest | which graphical html-editors is common/good/easy to use? |
| 10:56.44 | jm_ | jix: yes |
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| 10:56.54 | jix | jm_: how? |
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| 10:57.01 | liable | priest: easy = nvu |
| 10:57.06 | jeffro | still doesnt work |
| 10:57.07 | jm_ | jix: man grep-dctrl |
| 10:57.13 | jm_ | jix: or man dpkg-awk |
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| 10:57.16 | Eulex | !doesn't work |
| 10:57.16 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 10:57.24 | jeffro | it only works after the command: mount -o umask=0222 -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /windows |
| 10:57.43 | yuacht | cahoot, thanks... and btw do i need inetd for anything? i'm running my server apps as daemons |
| 10:57.59 | Coke | I work. |
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| 10:58.31 | yuacht | because i thought i'd remove inetd then since it blocks up the ports i need |
| 10:58.38 | liable | jeffro: in fstab, do you have /windows or /mnt/windows? |
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| 10:58.43 | jeffro | ok i still cant see my windows directory without mounting, i changed |
| 10:58.54 | jeffro | i have /windows |
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| 10:59.02 | jeffro | i made a map for that |
| 10:59.04 | Eulex | jeffro, define "can't see" |
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| 10:59.09 | Coke | jeffro: map? |
| 10:59.15 | jeffro | directory |
| 10:59.21 | jeffro | i cant view its contents |
| 10:59.24 | cahoot | yuacht: I just disabled inetd |
| 10:59.32 | rage | Does anyone know if transet and xcompmgr are floating around somewhere as debs? |
| 10:59.34 | Coke | jeffro: did you mount the correct device to that path? |
| 10:59.43 | Crumpet | omg i used check my fat32 mout with you talking about it |
| 10:59.51 | Crumpet | and ive repartitioned it ;( |
| 10:59.54 | jeffro | but if i go to a terminal and use mount -o umask=0222 -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /windows it does work |
| 10:59.56 | Crumpet | into ext3 |
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| 11:00.00 | Eulex | jeffro, define "can't view" |
| 11:00.08 | Crumpet | all my unbacked up data :( |
| 11:00.14 | Coke | Crumpet: partitions don't use filesystems |
| 11:00.26 | Crumpet | well formated it then |
| 11:00.33 | jeffro | can't view, cant see the contents in any browses or fiile manager |
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| 11:00.58 | Coke | jeffro: yes, that is how you mount a filesystem. either you do that manually with the command you just pasted or you use /etc/fstab to do it on boot. |
| 11:01.15 | Coke | jeffro: a device MUST be mounted before you can list it's contents. |
| 11:01.20 | jeffro | i want it in fstab |
| 11:01.24 | liable | jeffro: paste the fstab to #flood or a paster. |
| 11:01.24 | jeffro | and so i did |
| 11:01.34 | Eulex | jeffro, what happens when you try to view the dir? |
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| 11:01.34 | Crumpet | type /mount <whatever> |
| 11:01.43 | Crumpet | or reboot if you have added it to fstab |
| 11:01.44 | GooooGle | jm_: |
| 11:01.48 | d03boy | ok, I've got my 7 button mouse almost working except it has the forward/back buttons and the scroll wheel backwards. How can I reverse these? |
| 11:01.50 | Coke | Crumpet: all the ext2 -> ext3 really does is create journal files. you can still mount it as ext2 if you want. |
| 11:01.53 | jeffro | ok |
| 11:01.54 | Khad1234 | I'm looking for a linux compatible (debian supported) 2 port sata raid controller, could someone tell me what I should go for? |
| 11:01.56 | jeffro | il do it in flood |
| 11:01.59 | priest | liable: does debian has nvu? |
| 11:02.13 | liable | !info nvu sarge |
| 11:02.14 | GooooGle | jm_: "pon" brings me back to the prompt. Meaning the demon's running i suppose? But the Modem is still not dialling. |
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| 11:02.22 | yuacht | cahoot, okay, tried /etc/init.d/inetd stop but it didn't disable it... how do i do it? |
| 11:02.25 | liable | !info nvu sid |
| 11:02.30 | dpkg | nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section web, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.0pre-1 (sid), Packaged size: 8871 kB, Installed size: 27495 kB |
| 11:02.37 | jeffro | pasted |
| 11:02.43 | rage | mmm |
| 11:02.45 | priest | liable: only in sid then? |
| 11:02.54 | jm_ | GooooGle: enable pppd debugging and verbose mode for chat to see what is going on, check logs - and you might need a proper init string |
| 11:02.55 | cmihai | What's this I heard about no LDFLAGS support in Debian, but supported in Ubuntu? I'm not really sure about what this is all about (i guess it passes some flags to ld), but could someone clear this up for me? |
| 11:02.55 | liable | priest: only sid atm, but there are source, and even .debs out there.. |
| 11:02.58 | Crumpet | Coke: no most of my music and video files were on a fat32 partition, i just reinstalled debian and ive accidently reformatted it to ext3 lol |
| 11:03.00 | drac | !info nvu testing |
| 11:03.14 | jeffro | so why isnt it mounted correctly in the boot |
| 11:03.18 | cyzie | good day everyone. when u issue top, i see there is 1 zombie there. what does it means? i got a few it is bad, if it is bad, how can i kill it? |
| 11:03.23 | Coke | yuacht: 1) was there any output from the stop script, 2) how do you know it's not terminated? |
| 11:03.25 | rage | !info xcompmgr sid |
| 11:03.28 | Coke | Crumpet: ah. bad move. |
| 11:03.35 | d03boy | I tried editing my ~/.Xmodmap file, but it doesnt seem to do anything at all... what should I try alternatively to reset my mouse buttons? |
| 11:03.48 | GooooGle | jm_: Debugging is enabled. No option for verbose anywhere. I'll check logs. |
| 11:04.03 | jm_ | GooooGle: man chat, should be -v |
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| 11:04.09 | Coke | d03boy: repeat the question and ask it like a real question, please. |
| 11:04.12 | yuacht | Coke, lsof -i, still listening.. and no, no output... haven't checked the logs though |
| 11:04.14 | Crumpet | self: don't reinstalled OS at 3am your going to make a mistake |
| 11:04.14 | GooooGle | thanx |
| 11:04.16 | jm_ | you have to change that in provider script IIRC |
| 11:04.28 | Coke | yuacht: ps -A | grep inetd |
| 11:04.38 | jeffro | anyone? |
| 11:04.47 | Khad1234 | anyone? |
| 11:05.07 | jeffro | whats wrong with my fstab?!?!?!?!?! |
| 11:05.07 | GooooGle | jm_: Where's that script ? |
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| 11:05.23 | frood | hey all |
| 11:05.24 | Coke | jeffro: chill! |
| 11:05.27 | jm_ | GooooGle: did you even read stuff in /usr/share/doc/pppd? |
| 11:05.29 | liable | jeffro: what are the characters inbetween the options? |
| 11:05.32 | yuacht | Coke, 1072 ? 00:00:00 inetd |
| 11:05.33 | migma | !anyone |
| 11:05.33 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 11:05.40 | jeffro | comma's |
| 11:05.43 | frood | any clues how to solve this? write: /dev/pts/5: Permission denied |
| 11:05.44 | GooooGle | jm_: I only had ppp there :| |
| 11:05.47 | Coke | yuacht: even after /etc/init.d/inetd stop? that's broken then. |
| 11:05.55 | jm_ | GooooGle: ok so read stuff in ppp dir |
| 11:06.03 | jm_ | ahh of course, packagename is ppp, silly me |
| 11:06.09 | Coke | frood: yes, set write permission for the user and/or group you want. |
| 11:06.13 | Crumpet | jeffro: copy the line you have in /etc/fstab and paste it here |
| 11:06.16 | d03boy | My ~/.Xmodmap file contains this line "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7" but I also tried it as "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" and neither of these reverse my scrollwheel on my mouse, and the forward/back buttons. The buttons do work, but they are reversed. How can I reverse them? |
| 11:06.19 | yuacht | Coke, Jul 19 14:17:54 localhost inetd[16200]: execv /usr/sbin/identd: No such file or directory <- found that in /var/log/daemons.log |
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| 11:06.26 | Coke | frood: man chmod; man chown |
| 11:06.28 | jeffro | /dev/hdc1/windowsntfsro,user,mask=02200 |
| 11:06.43 | yuacht | Coke, is apt-get remove netkit-inetd safe? |
| 11:06.45 | frood | to /dev/pts/*? |
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| 11:06.51 | Crumpet | ntfs? |
| 11:07.01 | d03boy | reverse, meaning that the scrollwheel goes forward/back and the forward/back buttons scroll |
| 11:07.01 | jeffro | yes its a ntfs file system |
| 11:07.03 | frood | i chmod g+w those nodes |
| 11:07.04 | Coke | yuacht: well, inetd is no requirement AFAIK |
| 11:07.14 | frood | and added myself to the group |
| 11:07.15 | Crumpet | have you got ntfs support enabled in the kernel? |
| 11:07.18 | drac | jeffro: mask is not same as umask |
| 11:07.18 | yuacht | Coke, good... since i'm not using it |
| 11:07.19 | liable | jeffro: is there a charecter inbetween the 0 0? |
| 11:07.19 | frood | but it still isn't soing it |
| 11:07.32 | jeffro | oh |
| 11:07.38 | jeffro | a tab |
| 11:07.39 | jeffro | i see |
| 11:07.45 | jeffro | forgot the u for mask |
| 11:07.49 | liable | jeffro: and inbetween 022 and 0 |
| 11:07.53 | jeffro | !tell me about enter |
| 11:07.55 | jix | jm_: dpkg-awk 'Status:[^-]installed' 'Priority:optional' -- Package | grep . | awk '{print $2}' | sort did it thanks |
| 11:07.59 | jeffro | dont know |
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| 11:08.02 | Coke | frood: are you in that group which has write permissions. |
| 11:08.05 | jeffro | its very close |
| 11:08.13 | yuacht | Coke, ohh, i guess i was using it since it wanted to remove most of my server apps :D but WHY won't it shut down? |
| 11:08.18 | jeffro | but if i press tab it goes to far |
| 11:08.40 | jeffro | should i rewrite that line? |
| 11:08.44 | frood | i think so, i'll double check. It was owned by the group "tty" so i added myself to that |
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| 11:09.24 | mike-m | hey Coke |
| 11:09.25 | Coke | yuacht: that's a good question. probably broken. |
| 11:09.31 | simonrvn | frood: um, remove yourself from tty group. it's useless, and a security risk |
| 11:09.53 | yuacht | Coke, i just wanna get rid of this: inetd 1072 root 4u IPv4 3702 TCP *:ftp (LISTEN) to be able to use proftpd! |
| 11:09.55 | Coke | frood: you need to restart your root shell for the new group membership to be effective. |
| 11:09.55 | jm_ | indeed, you shouldn't be in tty group |
| 11:09.58 | Coke | mike-m: ? |
| 11:10.07 | Coke | yuacht: killall -TERM inetd |
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| 11:10.14 | frood | ah yes |
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| 11:10.33 | frood | now it works |
| 11:10.38 | jm_ | Coke: you don't have to restart it |
| 11:10.42 | Crumpet | jeffro: /dev/hda1 /mnt/c ntfs defaults,ro,utf8 0 0 |
| 11:10.44 | frood | yeah you do |
| 11:10.46 | Coke | jm_: only way I know |
| 11:10.53 | jm_ | Coke: man newgrp ; man sg |
| 11:10.56 | mike-m | Coke: oops, wrong person |
| 11:10.59 | Crumpet | jeffro: just change the drive and mount point |
| 11:11.02 | trand | mlterm is unmanintained any more? |
| 11:11.14 | jeffro | ok il try tat as second option |
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| 11:11.21 | yuacht | Coke, yay, now it works! thanks |
| 11:11.24 | jeffro | first check if putting u for mask works |
| 11:11.30 | cyzie | good day everyone. when u issue top, i see there is 1 zombie there. what does it means? i got a few it is bad, if it is bad, how can i kill it? |
| 11:11.37 | frood | ok, if i add myself to tty group, write works. if i take myself away from it, write stops working. What else could you sugggest |
| 11:11.40 | jm_ | cyzie: /msg dpkg zombie |
| 11:11.48 | Coke | jm_: can newgrp add a group as well? |
| 11:12.10 | jm_ | Coke: no, you add yourself to a group and then use one of those commands to avoid having to restart things |
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| 11:12.27 | shaiW | would creating a large swap partition be useful to cover for low RAM? |
| 11:12.32 | Coke | jm_: and how does one add ones self to the group? :) |
| 11:12.38 | jeffro | yes |
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| 11:12.55 | jeffro | make a swap partition from 512 mb |
| 11:12.59 | cyzie | jm_, dpkg doesnt stated how to kill the zombie. merely explaning what is zombie and in what condition it occur. |
| 11:13.05 | jm_ | Coke: using the well documented commands |
| 11:13.06 | shaiW | I have a GB swap partition |
| 11:13.10 | Crumpet | jeffro: just make sure you have NTFS file system support enabled in your kernel |
| 11:13.17 | jeffro | it is |
| 11:13.17 | jm_ | cyzie: it tells you you can't kill zombie processes |
| 11:13.20 | shaiW | but only 256ram |
| 11:13.27 | jeffro | because if i mount it myself it works |
| 11:13.35 | shaiW | and I try to ran azureus and vmware at the same time |
| 11:13.37 | Crumpet | jeffro: hmmm |
| 11:13.38 | simonrvn | frood: the problem is deeper. opening up a hole is not going to fix the deeper issue |
| 11:13.47 | jeffro | *rebooting......... |
| 11:13.49 | Coke | jm_: ok. I edit /etc/group and add my currently logged in user to the group "test" and then I run newgrp test to have it added to the list of groups displayed when you run "groups" ? |
| 11:13.58 | shaiW | I mean, if I'll create a 3GB swap partition, could I allocate 256 MBs to vmware? |
| 11:13.59 | cyzie | jm_, alright. but can we detect what process cause this zomebie |
| 11:14.00 | cyzie | ? |
| 11:14.07 | Crumpet | jeffro: that should work provind the parition and mount point are valid |
| 11:14.13 | jm_ | Coke: well I would use adduser if I were you, but yes |
| 11:14.23 | frood | simonrvn: i'm sure you're right. so if you've got any good ideas..? |
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| 11:14.28 | jm_ | cyzie: well what process is it? |
| 11:14.49 | Coke | jm_: what if you don't want to change the GID of the process, but only add a new group to the group list? |
| 11:14.52 | outlaw84 | Does debain need exim4 to work properly? |
| 11:15.05 | cyzie | jm_, that is what im asking. how am i know which process cause this zomebie to happen |
| 11:15.09 | jm_ | Coke: that's just groupadd |
| 11:15.21 | Coke | jm_: ok |
| 11:15.22 | jm_ | cyzie: logic&skills |
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| 11:16.33 | Eulex | !debain |
| 11:16.34 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 11:16.36 | simonrvn | frood: check the settings for ttys. there's a file to set that up in /etc/default, and the init script involved reads that thing. also i'd look at some of the stuff in /etc/security. also, are you running udev? if so, udev might have some poopoo data for some reason (computer crash corrupted data, whatever). |
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| 11:17.06 | frood | ah ok |
| 11:17.14 | frood | so doing a chmod -R o+w /dev/pts was a bad idea too huh? |
| 11:17.18 | jeffro | hey hey |
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| 11:17.32 | jm_ | that doesn't matter as it's a pseudofs |
| 11:17.33 | umbop | hmm i'm reading the howto for http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html however, in the example it gives, it defines both screens, as there's two display devices. However, i only have one display device, but two monitors, so i'm confused how i would do it for that case |
| 11:17.36 | frood | after removing myself from group "tty" |
| 11:17.38 | jm_ | it will be OK for next reboot |
| 11:17.39 | jeffro | one "u" does make a difference |
| 11:18.04 | jeffro | another problem |
| 11:18.24 | jeffro | my sound mixer settings keeps reseeting after each boot |
| 11:18.30 | jeffro | how do i prevent this |
| 11:18.39 | simonrvn | save them. |
| 11:18.41 | Eulex | jeffro, using oss or alsa? |
| 11:18.41 | jm_ | run alsactl store if you're using ALSA |
| 11:18.47 | jeffro | how do you save them.. |
| 11:18.52 | simonrvn | ^^^^ |
| 11:19.01 | Eulex | jeffro, install oss-preserve if you're using oss |
| 11:19.10 | frood | jm_ ah, so doing that as a fix is ok? no gaping security hole? |
| 11:19.14 | jeffro | dont know what it is |
| 11:19.18 | jeffro | its in my ar |
| 11:19.20 | jeffro | bar |
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| 11:19.27 | jeffro | using kde |
| 11:19.29 | simonrvn | bar? |
| 11:19.35 | jeffro | panel/bar |
| 11:19.39 | jm_ | frood: no, I wanted to say it won't retain new chmod settings, it will be reset for next reboot |
| 11:19.51 | frood | o i c |
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| 11:20.07 | simonrvn | p j d |
| 11:20.18 | Eulex | jeffro, lsmod|grep sound |
| 11:20.21 | jeffro | ok it called kmix |
| 11:20.22 | cahoot | yuacht: read the Debian reference |
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| 11:20.55 | frood | i think its all got something to do with when i ran chown -R root:admins /usr/bin; chmod -R o-x /usr/bin... my write has not worked since |
| 11:21.00 | jeffro | soundcore 3268 2 [i810_audio] |
| 11:21.03 | Eulex | jeffro, if you get more than something like "soundcore 9760 1 snd", you've got oss |
| 11:21.20 | simonrvn | oh boy. be careful with that |
| 11:21.24 | liable | oss |
| 11:21.26 | jeffro | but im using kmix |
| 11:21.30 | Eulex | jeffro, afaik you've got oss |
| 11:21.32 | simonrvn | so? |
| 11:21.49 | jeffro | then what do i have to do then |
| 11:21.58 | Eulex | jeffro, and lsmod|grep snd doesn't show anything? |
| 11:22.10 | jeffro | nothing |
| 11:22.19 | simonrvn | kmix is just a mixer. it's not the sound system *available* to kmix |
| 11:22.28 | Eulex | jeffro, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 11:22.29 | shaiW | appearently I can't look into ISO files |
| 11:22.40 | shaiW | I'm missing something called Joliet SVD which I can't find in apt-cache |
| 11:22.47 | umbop | hmm for what sound cards is OSS compatible for? |
| 11:23.00 | Eulex | umbop, why care? use alsa |
| 11:23.07 | umbop | just wondered |
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| 11:23.15 | shaiW | for some reason the CD I've burned came out with shortened filenames, and I don't know if I should blame cdrecord or mkisofs |
| 11:23.15 | simonrvn | umbop: if your sound hardware can use alsa, use alsa |
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| 11:23.28 | simonrvn | (i.e., there's a driver for it) |
| 11:23.29 | jeffro | and then? |
| 11:23.35 | Eulex | jeffro, run alsaconf |
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| 11:23.38 | shaiW | what should I do? |
| 11:23.52 | Eulex | jeffro, but beware, things might be killed |
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| 11:23.57 | jeffro | ok |
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| 11:24.08 | simonrvn | shaiW: joliet extensions are a kernel option |
| 11:24.10 | jeffro | No supported PnP or PCI card found. |
| 11:24.15 | jeffro | Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips? |
| 11:24.23 | simonrvn | you didn't remove the oss driver |
| 11:24.23 | shaiW | what do I need to do if I want to look into ISOs? |
| 11:24.23 | liable | umbop: lspci |grep audio |
| 11:24.26 | jeffro | its a builtin |
| 11:24.28 | cahoot | Eulex: you're alson in for the task to explain howto modify hotplug/discover |
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| 11:24.36 | tbx | sane-find-scanner and scanimage -L are both happy, but xsane doesn't see anything to use. howto? |
| 11:24.38 | simonrvn | then you're fucked. rebuild your kernel |
| 11:24.49 | Eulex | cahoot, what? |
| 11:24.50 | jeffro | me? |
| 11:24.50 | liable | jeffro: modprobe -r i810_audio |
| 11:25.05 | liable | jeffro: modprobe snd-intel8x0 |
| 11:25.07 | simonrvn | never mind |
| 11:25.07 | xst | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.08 | jeffro | i810_audio: Device or resource busy |
| 11:25.09 | cahoot | Eulex: for a successful change from oss to alsa |
| 11:25.17 | shaiW | I need to rebuild my kernel if I want to look into ISOs? and the guys that made the kernel image could'nt of think of it in advance? |
| 11:25.21 | liable | jeffro: stop using the fucker then :P |
| 11:25.45 | jeffro | cant |
| 11:25.48 | Eulex | cahoot, from my experience, the alsa packages takes care of that |
| 11:25.51 | jeffro | how to fully stop it? |
| 11:26.00 | liable | jeffro: lsof /dev/dsp |
| 11:26.03 | Eulex | jeffro, kill any program that use it |
| 11:26.22 | simonrvn | kill kmix |
| 11:26.35 | Eulex | and artsd, if it's running |
| 11:26.42 | jeffro | cant kill |
| 11:26.45 | jeffro | artsd |
| 11:26.46 | d3s | how can I be certain that my radeonfb is used for my framebuffer instead of vesafb? I've already put video=radeonfb on my grub and everything seems fine. Can't figure out what's the diff. |
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| 11:27.02 | liable | killall -9 artsd |
| 11:27.03 | jeffro | keeps coming back |
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| 11:27.31 | cahoot | jeffro: disable it in kde control center |
| 11:27.39 | jeffro | modprobe: Can't locate module snd-intel8x0 |
| 11:28.09 | Eulex | jeffro, have you compiled your own kernel? |
| 11:28.16 | jeffro | dont knoq |
| 11:28.23 | jeffro | i just installed debian |
| 11:28.36 | Eulex | what kernel are you running then? |
| 11:28.36 | jeffro | network install |
| 11:28.43 | jeffro | how to check? |
| 11:28.47 | mike-m | although the kernel from debian has this module |
| 11:28.51 | liable | jeffro: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-i386 |
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| 11:29.02 | mike-m | (2.6.x) |
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| 11:29.09 | liable | jeffro: uname -r |
| 11:29.09 | jeffro | Kon pakket kernel-image-2.6-i386 niet vinden |
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| 11:29.26 | jeffro | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 11:29.37 | liable | jeffro: get a 2.6 one. |
| 11:29.39 | mike-m | passe en 2.6 |
| 11:29.45 | jeffro | package name? |
| 11:30.03 | liable | jeffro: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 11:30.19 | umbop | hmm anyone familiar with xinerama? |
| 11:30.20 | mike-m | jeffro: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 11:30.30 | jeffro | kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 11:30.35 | mike-m | his ok! |
| 11:30.40 | umbop | as i've read the howto, but confused how i set it up for 2 monitors one device, as appose two devices |
| 11:30.50 | liable | jeffro: whats your cpu? |
| 11:31.06 | jeffro | i know i ned 386 |
| 11:31.23 | Eulex | jeffro, answer the question. what's your cpu? |
| 11:31.25 | jeffro | intel celleron 733 mhz |
| 11:31.47 | liable | jeffro: get that one then. |
| 11:31.50 | jeffro | see |
| 11:31.55 | jeffro | i know what i need |
| 11:31.56 | jeffro | :P |
| 11:32.02 | jeffro | im not THAT stupid |
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| 11:32.08 | jeffro | its done |
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| 11:32.14 | jeffro | what now |
| 11:32.25 | Eulex | jeffro, you want 686, not 386 |
| 11:32.35 | liable | jeffro: actually, you can run a 686, but.. |
| 11:32.35 | jeffro | 386 works best |
| 11:32.40 | jeffro | thats the debian i installed |
| 11:32.47 | neiljp | someone I know is doing a new debian install, and doing etch - is etch vaguely stable atm? (with the recent sid instabilities I've heard about recently) |
| 11:32.53 | jeffro | and 686 will slow down my ram |
| 11:32.56 | liable | jeffro: reboot, choose the 2.6 |
| 11:33.02 | Eulex | jeffro, 686 is faster than 386, and there's no problem in running 686 |
| 11:33.12 | Eulex | jeffro, and why do you think 686 will slow down your ram? |
| 11:33.20 | jeffro | cause i had it before |
| 11:33.25 | jeffro | and im used to 385 |
| 11:33.26 | cahoot | Eulex: what's the point in complicating things even more? |
| 11:33.28 | jeffro | and im used to 386 |
| 11:33.34 | tbx | sane-find-scanner and scanimage -L are both happy, but xsane doesn't see anything to use. howto? |
| 11:33.40 | jeffro | jeffro: reboot, choose the 2.6 ??? what do you mean |
| 11:33.49 | jeffro | is it going to ask something |
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| 11:34.20 | Eulex | cahoot, I can't see any complicating anywhere, I just pointed out that 686 is faster than 386 for him and that it will do no harm |
| 11:34.20 | jeffro | oh i see |
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| 11:34.24 | jeffro | it will be in grub |
| 11:34.25 | liable | reboot the machine, in grub, the new kernel will be the first, just hit enter or wait. |
| 11:34.26 | [-oskar-] | how can i download a packet instead of install it ? |
| 11:34.28 | Asbernx | How do you find out what Kernal you have? Can you use the console to find out. Im completely new to linux and its not what i use most oif the time |
| 11:34.34 | Crumpet | my kernel is config is starting to really piss me off |
| 11:34.42 | cahoot | tbx: oyu *are* member of scanner group now? |
| 11:34.51 | Crumpet | i cant find 4K stacks anywhere |
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| 11:35.18 | Crumpet | any chance kernel.org have applyed that patch to remove it? |
| 11:35.37 | Eulex | Asbernx, uname -r |
| 11:35.43 | Crumpet | or whoever packages the kernel distros |
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| 11:36.30 | cahoot | Crumpet: 2.6.12.3 seems to lack the option |
| 11:36.41 | Crumpet | thank you |
| 11:36.47 | Crumpet | so im not stupid |
| 11:36.59 | Crumpet | they were flaming me earlier |
| 11:37.04 | cahoot | Crumpet: 2.6.11.6 still has it |
| 11:37.21 | Crumpet | ive got to go all the back to then :( |
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| 11:37.43 | cahoot | Crumpet: unless they've renamed the entry |
| 11:37.50 | jeffro | im back |
| 11:38.01 | jeffro | what ow? |
| 11:38.03 | jeffro | now |
| 11:38.09 | Crumpet | cahoot: :( i only want the nvidia drivers to work |
| 11:38.20 | liable | jeffro: alsaconf |
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| 11:38.28 | Ar0n | hello |
| 11:38.30 | cahoot | Crumpet: need 4k stack for that? |
| 11:39.01 | jeffro | i got 2 choises |
| 11:39.02 | Crumpet | cahoot: i want to disable 4k stack |
| 11:39.08 | jeffro | legecy bla bla and intel 8x0 |
| 11:39.14 | liable | jeffro: intel |
| 11:39.17 | Crumpet | cahoot: ive read they dont work properly with 4kstacks |
| 11:39.39 | pego | anyone knwo the command that ssh do when i dpkg-reconfigure ssh to regenerate the key ? |
| 11:39.42 | cahoot | Crumpet: isn't 8k the default? |
| 11:39.43 | jeffro | want to modify etc/modprobe.d/soun |
| 11:39.53 | Crumpet | cahoot: thats what i thought |
| 11:39.55 | liable | yes |
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| 11:40.22 | Crumpet | cahoot: but when i tried and insert them i get: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12.3/nvidia/nvidia.ko): No such device |
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| 11:40.31 | jeffro | hopw this will boost my volume a lil bit |
| 11:40.38 | jeffro | standard its so soft |
| 11:40.48 | jeffro | its done |
| 11:40.50 | liable | jeffro: now 'alsamixer' |
| 11:41.06 | jeffro | wow |
| 11:41.08 | liable | jeffro: then alsactl store |
| 11:41.09 | jeffro | what to edit |
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| 11:41.26 | Crumpet | cahoot: i dont see why they would remove 4kstacks since it is a better option |
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| 11:41.41 | Crumpet | chealer: i can understand them just setting 4kstacks as default |
| 11:41.47 | Crumpet | cahoot * |
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| 11:41.56 | tbx | cahoot: yup. |
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| 11:43.19 | jeffro | lol |
| 11:43.21 | umbop | hmm how do i reinstall java-common? |
| 11:43.24 | jeffro | kmixer doesn even wor |
| 11:43.30 | d3s | how can I use mini 4x4 font on my framebuffer? what should I add in grub? |
| 11:43.31 | jeffro | but volume is boosted a lot |
| 11:43.31 | Guerin | umbop: man apt-get |
| 11:43.33 | jeffro | :D |
| 11:43.39 | cahoot | Crumpet: my bad - 4k stack is there if you enable kernel debugging |
| 11:43.39 | jeffro | and programs load faster |
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| 11:43.51 | nomed^ | hi all |
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| 11:44.05 | Eulex | jeffro, then dumb kmix doesn't understabd alsa -- or you need to configure it to do that |
| 11:44.13 | jeffro | doesnt matter |
| 11:44.16 | Crumpet | cahoot: is it called somet else? |
| 11:44.20 | jeffro | xmms understands vloume |
| 11:44.23 | cahoot | tbx: usb scanner or what? |
| 11:44.23 | nomed^ | do you know if it exists a template to wite a man? |
| 11:44.23 | jeffro | control |
| 11:44.43 | jeffro | OMG when i rightclick xmms i have a shitty font |
| 11:44.44 | cahoot | Crumpet: Use 4Kb for kernel stacks instead of 8Kb (NEW) |
| 11:45.01 | jeffro | let me guess, controll center |
| 11:45.03 | umbop | hmm apt-get --reinstall java-common doesn't work |
| 11:45.05 | Crumpet | not there |
| 11:45.08 | tbx | cahoot: usb, yes, and yes supported; worked with a forme distro. |
| 11:45.08 | Eulex | jeffro, it's a gtk1 app, get used to it |
| 11:45.27 | jeffro | i must look at a very smaal font |
| 11:45.32 | Crumpet | cahoot: does it say it depends on anythig else been enabled? |
| 11:45.37 | jeffro | cant it be bigger/better |
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| 11:45.51 | cahoot | Crumpet: -> Kernel hacking-> Kernel debugging |
| 11:46.00 | Crumpet | hmm |
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| 11:46.12 | Crumpet | cahoot: strange i have that enabled |
| 11:46.19 | jeffro | i guess its bitstream o_o |
| 11:46.28 | cahoot | Crumpet: probaly need enable Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers |
| 11:46.38 | Crumpet | cahoot: done that too |
| 11:47.18 | Ar0n | i have a problem with crontab i have a file named my.crontab and i have the correct things in it bit it does not want to execute the command |
| 11:47.25 | cahoot | Crumpet: scroll down to the very last entry in Kernel debugging |
| 11:47.32 | Ar0n | 45 13 * echo "run at 5 after 4 every sunday" > /home/ar0n/gyik/schedule.txt |
| 11:48.05 | cahoot | tbx: udev/devfsd or static dev? |
| 11:48.38 | tbx | cahoot: udev installed and running. |
| 11:48.43 | Crumpet | cahoot: the last one is Kprobes |
| 11:49.28 | cahoot | tbx: my guess is udev trouble - sorry no idea how to solve |
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| 11:49.52 | tbx | cahoot: okay, I'll save it for another time. thanks. |
| 11:50.10 | jm_ | Ar0n: wtf |
| 11:50.36 | jeffro | xmms is really shitty font in options!!!!!! |
| 11:50.52 | cahoot | Crumpet: strange - I'm just reading from menuconfig on 2.6.12.3 |
| 11:50.55 | Ar0n | jim_: crontab is making a run schedule for programs |
| 11:51.24 | jm_ | Ar0n: the nick is jm_ if you're talking to me - you can't have it in a random file |
| 11:51.39 | Ar0n | oh sorry jm_ :D |
| 11:51.43 | Crumpet | cahoot: yeah it is, i only downloaded it this morning havent done owt to it |
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| 11:51.53 | jeffro | cant i chan ge it? |
| 11:52.11 | Ar0n | jm_: where can i put it then ? |
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| 11:52.39 | jm_ | Ar0n: you have to use crontab file or crontab -e to add it |
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| 11:53.02 | jeffro | how do I enable font antialiasing for gtk1 apps |
| 11:53.40 | Ar0n | jm_: well i use it like you said |
| 11:53.48 | Guerin | jeffro: put on blurry glasses |
| 11:53.52 | jm_ | Ar0n: does crontab -l list it? |
| 11:54.00 | Ar0n | jm_: yes |
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| 11:54.20 | jm_ | Ar0n: wait, your syntax is wrong, man 5 crontab |
| 11:54.24 | d03boy | anyone know why /dev/psaux wouldnt be accepting any movement from my synaptics touchpad? |
| 11:54.35 | d03boy | it uses my mother mouse instead |
| 11:54.38 | d03boy | *other |
| 11:54.39 | Ar0n | 45 13 * echo "run at 5 after 4 every sunday" > /home/ar0n/gyik/schedule.txt |
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| 11:54.47 | Khad1234 | has somebody got a working sata raid controller with debian? |
| 11:54.49 | ulrich_ | hi! |
| 11:54.56 | Ar0n | well the chat client sniffs out those * from it |
| 11:54.56 | Eulex | jeffro, did you enable bitmap fonts when configuring X? |
| 11:55.08 | jeffro | i think so |
| 11:55.17 | Ar0n | 45 13 |
| 11:55.19 | Eulex | jeffro, disable them |
| 11:55.21 | jeffro | other programs are normal |
| 11:55.25 | jeffro | like s-chat |
| 11:55.27 | jeffro | how |
| 11:55.31 | jeffro | base-config ? |
| 11:55.37 | Ar0n | jm_: strange ... |
| 11:55.39 | Eulex | no, it's one of the X packages |
| 11:55.51 | Ar0n | jm_: do i have to need rott privileges ? |
| 11:56.00 | jeffro | so how do i do it |
| 11:56.01 | Ar0n | jm_: i mean root |
| 11:56.16 | simonrvn | rott's funnier |
| 11:56.25 | Ar0n | yes :D |
| 11:56.32 | simonrvn | (not that funny, but more like 'cute') |
| 11:56.55 | jm_ | Ar0n: no, it works for users too |
| 11:57.06 | Ipsooo | Khad1234 > i heard that 3ware controllers are ok |
| 11:57.08 | jeffro | eulex: how do i disable them |
| 11:57.14 | Ar0n | jm_: than its more stranger ... |
| 11:57.41 | Eulex | jeffro, dpkg-reconfigure on a package, though I don't remember which |
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| 11:57.56 | phako | hi there |
| 11:58.04 | simonrvn | xserver-xorg|xfree86 |
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| 11:58.20 | cahoot | Eulex: fontconfig |
| 11:58.43 | simonrvn | oh, fontconfig stuff, ok |
| 11:58.44 | jm_ | Ar0n: did you press enter at the end of the line? |
| 11:58.52 | Guerin | gtk1 doesn't do antialiasing |
| 11:58.58 | ulrich_ | after setting up pubkey authentication, I wonder what is the way I can disable password authentication for my account? |
| 11:59.03 | Guerin | so the fuzzy glasses are your only hope |
| 11:59.03 | Eulex | cahoot, yeah, that's it |
| 11:59.17 | jeffro | lol |
| 11:59.19 | Guerin | ulrich_: man sshd_config |
| 11:59.20 | Eulex | Guerin, though it seemed like he got a bitmapped font... |
| 11:59.24 | jeffro | but i want the font what bigger |
| 11:59.25 | simonrvn | or too old of a prescription ;) |
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| 11:59.27 | Guerin | Eulex: irrelevant |
| 11:59.29 | splattnik | whats the difference between system group and user group? |
| 11:59.32 | jeffro | its very tiny |
| 11:59.33 | Guerin | jeffro: so change it |
| 11:59.39 | Guerin | !gtk fontsize |
| 11:59.39 | dpkg | If gtk1 fonts are fucked and switch won't fix them, copy a file from /etc/gtk/gtkrc.$LOCALE to ~/.gtkrc and replace the specified font with whatever you like from xfontsel. |
| 11:59.45 | greycat | splattnik: the number. |
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| 11:59.51 | jeffro | native, autohinter or none |
| 11:59.51 | liable | Khad1234: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html ,http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html |
| 12:00.07 | Guerin | jeffro: follow the instructions |
| 12:00.13 | simonrvn | autohinter behaves better |
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| 12:00.19 | jeffro | yes but whats best for xmms |
| 12:00.20 | Guerin | jeffro: this has exactly 0 bearing on whether gtk1 fonts are antialiased |
| 12:00.21 | Ar0n | jm_: i have two new lines at the end of the file ... |
| 12:00.23 | jeffro | the options |
| 12:00.24 | jeffro | xD |
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| 12:00.27 | Guerin | jeffro: NOTHING DOES |
| 12:00.34 | jeffro | sigh |
| 12:00.48 | simonrvn | jeffro: xmms. doesn't. use. fontconfig. nor. will. it. be. anti-aliased. |
| 12:00.52 | jeffro | so im stuck to getting 4 magnifieing glasses |
| 12:00.52 | Guerin | jeffro: if you want a shiny-looking xmms, use beep-media-player |
| 12:00.55 | simonrvn | period. |
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| 12:01.07 | jeffro | doesnt support 1500+ |
| 12:01.10 | simonrvn | jeffro: click the little d next to the scope |
| 12:01.14 | Guerin | jeffro: 1500+? |
| 12:01.22 | jeffro | mp3's |
| 12:01.28 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 12:01.33 | Guerin | damn straight |
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| 12:01.45 | jeffro | its for the option! |
| 12:01.45 | d03boy | would anyone be able to give me a hint as to what /dev/ device my synaptics touchpad might use? apparently it doesnt use any of the "mouse" devices |
| 12:01.47 | Guerin | jeffro: why not? |
| 12:01.55 | greycat | touchpads are normally /dev/psaux |
| 12:01.58 | jeffro | cause it crashes |
| 12:02.01 | simonrvn | hmm, i need to make another pipe bowl... |
| 12:02.04 | jeffro | with 1500+ mp3s |
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| 12:02.18 | viper_ | hmmm I have a winXP vpn server and a debian router.. now the problem is that I can`t receive multiple VPN connections... I've been told that some good router configs can help this... how can I set up iptables to make this possible ... currently I am forwarding port 1723 and 500 |
| 12:02.19 | Guerin | jeffro: i recommend mpd and *mpc |
| 12:02.26 | Eulex | d03boy, /dev/input/eventX |
| 12:02.29 | Crumpet | cahoot: im going to try installing again, cant think of anything else to do |
| 12:02.37 | d03boy | Eulex, i'll try that |
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| 12:02.38 | Guerin | jeffro: or cplay, which can play literally anything you can decode |
| 12:02.40 | Guerin | anyway |
| 12:02.43 | jeffro | and those are? |
| 12:02.44 | Ribaiano | hi |
| 12:02.44 | Guerin | -> doco on pakistan |
| 12:02.54 | simonrvn | moc is pretty neat too |
| 12:02.56 | coywolf | what's the differences between .Xdefaults and .Xresources ? |
| 12:03.05 | jeffro | or i have to use rytmh box but also crashes |
| 12:03.15 | greycat | one's deprecated |
| 12:03.17 | ulrich_ | Guerin, I rather meant doing afterwards what 'adduser --disabled-password ..' does with a new account... |
| 12:03.24 | liable | d03boy: mine used to work on psaux. |
| 12:03.28 | greycat | and the other one is supposed to be read automagically but I wouldn't count on it. |
| 12:03.30 | Ribaiano | portugues |
| 12:03.33 | greycat | !br |
| 12:03.33 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 12:03.34 | simonrvn | greycat: in a literal mood, today, eh? ;) |
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| 12:03.52 | Ar0n | jm_: im really stupid ... ive got the path wrong ... :) |
| 12:04.05 | d03boy | liable, I think mine did too... I cant figure out why it doesnt work anymore (at some point I disabled it, but I dont remember how) |
| 12:04.08 | Ar0n | jm_: thank you ! |
| 12:04.15 | jeffro | can videolan listen mp3s? |
| 12:04.16 | liable | d03boy: bios? |
| 12:04.28 | d03boy | I looked, it was enabled still... unless I overlooked something |
| 12:04.42 | liable | d03boy: thats where mines disabled.. |
| 12:04.59 | d03boy | i might check again, thats most likely where I would've done it |
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| 12:05.18 | jeffro | are there codecs for linux |
| 12:05.22 | jeffro | divx and such |
| 12:05.23 | simonrvn | man if openbios or linuxbios were more mature, i'd have one of them already installed.... what a scam, anywhere from 30 to 60 U$D to 'upgrade' one.... |
| 12:05.51 | d03boy | i'm doing "cat /dev/input/everything" and not getting anything when I touch the touchpad... so I can only assume its disabled in the bios |
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| 12:06.02 | simonrvn | ...and mostly to cope with winbloze's borkedness |
| 12:06.06 | d03boy | in which case, I will brb |
| 12:06.08 | jeffro | hello, anyone knows if there are codecs like divx for linux |
| 12:06.09 | jm_ | Ar0n: ok |
| 12:06.10 | simonrvn | stupid... |
| 12:06.45 | liable | jeffro: from marillat, w32codecs |
| 12:07.28 | jeffro | he couldnt find it |
| 12:07.31 | jeffro | apt-get |
| 12:07.45 | liable | !tell jeffro about marillat |
| 12:08.02 | cahoot | simonrvn: just curious - who demands moneyfor a bios upgrade? |
| 12:08.15 | greycat | either that or he's using a 2.6 kernel and didn't modprobe the thing that makes /dev/psaux work. |
| 12:08.16 | jeffro | ok so i have do download mplayer too |
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| 12:08.57 | simonrvn | cahoot: only place i found. you know of a better one? /me is newbie with things x86 |
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| 12:09.04 | jeffro | um what sid or sarge? |
| 12:09.30 | simonrvn | sid is unstable. sarge is stable |
| 12:09.41 | jeffro | and i have sarge or sumthing |
| 12:09.43 | simonrvn | man that sounds nice 'sarge is stable' |
| 12:10.04 | jeffro | ok |
| 12:10.08 | jeffro | where to add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 12:10.16 | jeffro | i remember it in the installation |
| 12:10.19 | simonrvn | man sources.list |
| 12:10.25 | jeffro | ...... |
| 12:10.29 | liable | jeffro: read the goddamn factoid... |
| 12:10.30 | jeffro | stupid manual |
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| 12:10.39 | liable | no, stupid jeffro |
| 12:10.43 | simonrvn | stupid luser not wanting to rtm |
| 12:10.52 | Eulex | pebkac |
| 12:11.25 | jeffro | nvm |
| 12:11.33 | jeffro | just base-config :D |
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| 12:16.45 | drizzt_ | hello :) |
| 12:16.47 | dan2_ | ~test |
| 12:16.48 | apt | Test Failed! |
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| 12:17.59 | Nrg | hello |
| 12:18.00 | drizzt_ | all: are the registered nicks here the sames as on usual freenode? |
| 12:18.03 | Nrg | and argh |
| 12:18.21 | Nrg | new udev in unstable prevents the whole upgrade from happening because I don't have kernel 2.6.12 installed |
| 12:18.30 | Nrg | 257 packages not upgraded because of that :( |
| 12:18.33 | jm_ | welcome to unstable |
| 12:18.35 | greycat | !pal udev/gnome/2.6 users |
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| 12:18.39 | liable | drizzt_: um, yeah. |
| 12:18.40 | jm_ | we in #debian love it |
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| 12:19.04 | Nrg | is there any other solution that compile 2.6.12 and boot it? |
| 12:19.07 | Nrg | than |
| 12:19.13 | greycat | that sounds like a winner |
| 12:19.32 | drizzt_ | liable: so if I gohst drizzt here, it will not kick me on real freenode? |
| 12:19.54 | Ronin | real freenode? |
| 12:20.05 | liable | drizzt_: this is real freenode... |
| 12:20.07 | cmihai | Damn, QNX 6.3 is sweet. |
| 12:20.09 | jm_ | dirz;what re you on about? this is freenode |
| 12:20.23 | drizzt_ | ok |
| 12:20.24 | Ronin | drizzt_: your not on the test freenode server youre on the real one |
| 12:20.27 | MoDaX | Nrg: put udev on hold |
| 12:20.31 | liable | Nrg: remove/hold udev |
| 12:20.33 | drizzt_ | ok |
| 12:20.34 | Nrg | or is there some repo with 2.6.12 kernels for unstable? |
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| 12:20.45 | POVaddct | Ford-Prefect: /topic |
| 12:20.47 | Nrg | liable & modax, thanks.. I'll try that |
| 12:20.59 | Ford-Prefect | POVaddct thanks :) |
| 12:21.07 | drizzt_ | so running irssi with -p 90001 didn't brought me to the test freenode? |
| 12:21.15 | carcrashnights | What is the package name for latex? It escapes me at the moment. |
| 12:21.23 | jm_ | 90001? :) |
| 12:21.26 | drizzt_ | tetex |
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| 12:21.29 | drizzt_ | 9001 |
| 12:21.33 | jm_ | carcrashnights: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:21.38 | J_P | hi all |
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| 12:21.43 | drizzt_ | or tetex_latex |
| 12:22.09 | MoDaX | Nrg: "aptitude hold udev" or with synaptic in case you're wondering how |
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| 12:22.19 | Ford-Prefect | but still, anyone feel (or perhaps know) where I can find the driver for an ATI radeon 9200 (I belive) |
| 12:22.36 | Ford-Prefect | gforce |
| 12:22.38 | drizzt_ | bye bye, I'll try again joining the test freenode |
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| 12:22.55 | POVaddct | Ford-Prefect: geforce is nvidia, not ati |
| 12:22.57 | liable | a radeon gforce? |
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| 12:23.09 | d03boy | ughhh... i'm so confused |
| 12:23.27 | lord_rob | Ford-Prefect: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html ? |
| 12:23.34 | Ford-Prefect | POVaddct: mine is ATI, and it's a very much cheaper version... but alsmot same technology |
| 12:23.36 | d03boy | X doesnt detect /dev/psaux at all (while I have my mouse unplugged) |
| 12:23.43 | Ford-Prefect | lord_rob: yes! that's the one :) |
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| 12:24.19 | lord_rob | Ford-Prefect: then google next time :) |
| 12:24.30 | greycat | fglrx is crap. |
| 12:24.32 | POVaddct | fuck those closed source driver shit |
| 12:24.33 | Ford-Prefect | lord_rob: well, it's kind of hard when you are in terminal mode only |
| 12:24.39 | phako | are there any known issues with xorg in debian and linuxwacom? the driver seems to have stopped working |
| 12:24.46 | greycat | d03boy: /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
| 12:24.53 | d03boy | k |
| 12:25.05 | jeffro | what ws the signal to kill a process |
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| 12:25.11 | Khad1234 | please help, i'm looking for a inux compatible sata raid controller |
| 12:25.12 | jeffro | somthing with 9 |
| 12:25.20 | lord_rob | Ford-Prefect: indeed |
| 12:25.27 | jm_ | Khad1234: go to Linux SATA status page and read |
| 12:25.37 | Ronin | kill -9 but its a bit like killing fly with a hammer jeffro it works but can cause damage |
| 12:25.51 | jeffro | but i want to kill apt-setup |
| 12:25.51 | Hiruko | how do i get into the alsa configuration? |
| 12:25.56 | jeffro | alsaconf |
| 12:25.57 | POVaddct | Ford-Prefect: ATI Radeon 9200PRO 5960 runs with xfree 4.3.0.1 w/o problems |
| 12:26.07 | J_P | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.16 | greycat | ATI Radeon 9000 runs with xserver-xorg with no problems *and* with 3D acceleration |
| 12:26.17 | Hiruko | thanks |
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| 12:26.46 | jeffro | bash: kill: apt-setup: no such pid???? |
| 12:26.55 | Nrg | modax, thanks for the tip, but I already know it.. been using debian over 10 years :) just didn't think about that.. somehow I imagined that I have to upgrade udev since it's core package :) |
| 12:27.13 | Nrg | modax, and it did the trick. |
| 12:27.21 | jm_ | udev is core package? I certainly hope not |
| 12:27.21 | jeffro | nvm i did it |
| 12:27.35 | Nrg | jm: well at least it will be :) |
| 12:27.38 | jeffro | debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
| 12:27.49 | jm_ | Nrg: I certainly hope not |
| 12:27.54 | Nrg | devfs was stripped out in 2.6.12 etc |
| 12:28.04 | Nrg | and hal requires udev.. |
| 12:28.12 | Ford-Prefect | POVaddct: what driver should I use then? because the fglrx is the only one I know of that have worked |
| 12:28.34 | d03boy | hmm |
| 12:28.34 | greycat | !info udev sid |
| 12:28.36 | POVaddct | Ford-Prefect: radeon driver works fine here |
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| 12:28.41 | dpkg | udev: (/dev/ management daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.063-1 (sid), Packaged size: 286 kB, Installed size: 888 kB |
| 12:28.46 | Nrg | thanks to you all.. have to get some food now:) |
| 12:28.46 | greycat | *optional*. |
| 12:28.50 | drac | Ford-Prefect: I'm running 9200 Pro with driver "radeon", and playing Enemy Territory without any problems. |
| 12:28.58 | POVaddct | Ford-Prefect: which xfree version do you have? |
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| 12:29.10 | jm_ | I couldn't care less about hal |
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| 12:29.16 | Ford-Prefect | POVaddct: well... I updated yesterday :/ |
| 12:29.29 | Ford-Prefect | and I run sid... |
| 12:29.34 | Ford-Prefect | that should tell it all |
| 12:29.35 | greycat | jm_: I'm sorry, Dave... |
| 12:29.38 | POVaddct | Ford-Prefect: hmm |
| 12:29.39 | Ford-Prefect | drac: thanks |
| 12:29.49 | jm_ | greycat: heh |
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| 12:30.29 | Ford-Prefect | POVaddct: yeah, I know... but I haven't been online with the system for 3 months, and when I get online it's with the faulty uppdates :/ |
| 12:30.48 | umbop | hmm why doesn't XFree86 -scanpci return anything? |
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| 12:32.14 | d03boy | well......... this whole time I thought I had a synaptics touchpad, when really I have an ALPS... how great... find to uninstall drivers :| |
| 12:32.17 | lord_rob | I'm trying to upgrade SID with aptitude, and I have a lot of dependancies problems (the biggest problem is x-window-system-core which cannot be upgraded). I haven't done anything right now, just watched the output of aptitude. Isn't it better to wait a few days before upgrading the X server ? |
| 12:32.41 | jeffro | best video player?? |
| 12:32.46 | Ford-Prefect | lord_rob: welcome to my world, but it didn't really warn me :/ |
| 12:32.50 | drac | !tell jeffro about polls |
| 12:32.54 | liable | jeffro: google. |
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| 12:33.02 | lord_rob | Ford-Prefect: don't you use aptitude ? |
| 12:33.09 | jeffro | but i want to know what a good program is |
| 12:33.18 | jeffro | i dont want to use EVERY player in the world |
| 12:33.23 | d03boy | use mplayer |
| 12:33.23 | lord_rob | Ford-Prefect: when I see such a screen, I'm not so confident about upgrading |
| 12:33.25 | drac | jeffro: vlc, mplayer, xine.. pick one. |
| 12:33.28 | jeffro | ok |
| 12:33.29 | liable | jeffro: there free, try em, make up your own mind. |
| 12:33.31 | jeffro | thanks |
| 12:33.40 | jeffro | hey vlc |
| 12:33.45 | jeffro | isnt that videolan |
| 12:33.47 | d03boy | yes |
| 12:33.48 | Ford-Prefect | lord_rob: yes, I do, and I had to download heck of alot missing parts manually... because it removed some things for me... I was very unlucky :/ |
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| 12:33.56 | jeffro | i like tthat program |
| 12:34.00 | jeffro | had it for windows ^_^ |
| 12:34.00 | d03boy | ...k |
| 12:34.09 | d03boy | i was using it, but decided to switch to mplayer |
| 12:34.14 | Ford-Prefect | with the radeon driver I get the same problem... and a dri problem |
| 12:34.25 | d03boy | i was having a few issues with vlc + firefox |
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| 12:34.38 | jeffro | ok.. |
| 12:34.47 | Ford-Prefect | "DRIScreenInit failed" |
| 12:34.48 | drac | Ford-Prefect: drm and radeon needs to be loaded in kernel (modprobe radeon), and driver "radeon" in xorg.conf. |
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| 12:35.00 | lord_rob | thanks for your help Ford-Prefect ... think I'll wait a little bit before upgrading :) |
| 12:35.29 | raboof | if anyone complains about wdmLogin suddenly taking way too long after an upgrade (like I did some time ago), tell them to run `fc-cache' as root. That solves it. |
| 12:35.30 | Ford-Prefect | drac: right you are... (sorry for beeing such a pain in the behind but I've litterally forgot 70% of what I once knew) |
| 12:35.47 | drac | Ford-Prefect: and X.Org needs 2.6 kernel to have new enough DRM for DRI. |
| 12:35.49 | Ford-Prefect | lord_rob: atm, I am a living warning sign... ;) |
| 12:35.55 | drac | Ford-Prefect: 2.4 just causes Version Mismatch. |
| 12:36.02 | Ford-Prefect | drac: I got the 2.6 kernel |
| 12:36.05 | drac | Ford-Prefect: Ok. |
| 12:37.01 | Ford-Prefect | anyone feeling like taking me on and helping me get the module loaded? |
| 12:37.09 | Ford-Prefect | *puppy eyes* |
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| 12:39.07 | drac | Ford-Prefect: open /etc/modules in editor, and "radeon" there as first module. |
| 12:39.16 | drac | Ford-Prefect: quit X and modprobe radeon |
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| 12:39.48 | greycat | you might want agpgart before radeon |
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| 12:40.16 | bluefox83 | ya know what, i can't seem to get my nvidia driver to work |
| 12:40.27 | bluefox83 | i modprobe it, an dit loads |
| 12:40.31 | bluefox83 | i start X with it |
| 12:40.34 | bluefox83 | and it crashes |
| 12:40.40 | bluefox83 | says there's no nvidia driver |
| 12:40.45 | bluefox83 | i'm baffled |
| 12:41.05 | PerfDave | bluefox83: How did you install the nvidia driver? |
| 12:41.12 | bluefox83 | ... |
| 12:41.24 | bluefox83 | if i can modprobe the driver doncha think it's installed? |
| 12:41.28 | jm_ | no |
| 12:41.38 | jm_ | there's kernel module and then there's X11 driver |
| 12:41.38 | bluefox83 | yes i installed the freakin driver |
| 12:41.52 | PerfDave | bluefox83: I asked *how* you installed it, not *whether* you installed it. |
| 12:42.09 | bluefox83 | i used module assistant auto-install nvidia |
| 12:42.56 | umbop | hmm ok i've just read http://quark.humbug.org.au/publications/xfree86/xinerama.html |
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| 12:43.06 | umbop | followed it word for word, and well i get a complaint saying no screens found now |
| 12:43.20 | bluefox83 | i get that too :/ |
| 12:43.25 | umbop | all i want is to use dual monitor, with one graphics card |
| 12:43.45 | umbop | ann bluefox83 but thats probably because your XF86Config is wrong, same as mine |
| 12:43.56 | PerfDave | bluefox83: What *exact* error message do you get? Can you paste your /var/log/XFree86.0.log to the pastebot? |
| 12:44.04 | sdogi_ | doesn't it say any error before saying no screens found |
| 12:44.06 | sdogi_ | it usually does |
| 12:44.07 | Ford-Prefect | drac: thanks :) |
| 12:44.07 | bluefox83 | no..i'm using Xorg >.> |
| 12:44.21 | Ford-Prefect | hmmm, it seem to claim I don't have x-window-system-core installed |
| 12:44.32 | bluefox83 | i might as well trash xorg and reinstall xfree86, huh? |
| 12:44.38 | PerfDave | bluefox83: So you're running unstable, and things are breaking, and this surprises you? |
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| 12:44.40 | liable | Ford-Prefect: hmmmm, install it? |
| 12:44.51 | bluefox83 | PerfDave, no, doesn't really suprise me |
| 12:44.56 | Ford-Prefect | liable: yes, I am doing that as we speak ;) |
| 12:45.01 | coywolf | what's the differences between .Xdefaults and .Xresources ? |
| 12:45.05 | gilead | bluefox83: nvidia driver works fine with xorg, no need to go back to xfree86 |
| 12:45.12 | liable | Ford-Prefect: out of interest, did you install x-window-system? |
| 12:45.19 | jm_ | Debian's standard X session scripts don't give a shit about .Xdefaults |
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| 12:45.24 | PerfDave | bluefox83: Hint - if you're running xorg, it's worth saying so. |
| 12:45.29 | liable | Ford-Prefect: before I mean.. |
| 12:45.29 | umbop | hmm ok any chance i could get some help, pretty please! |
| 12:45.39 | Ford-Prefect | liable: I've had it before yes |
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| 12:45.44 | umbop | with dual monitor - two monitors - one laptop / one ati card |
| 12:45.44 | bluefox83 | PerfDave, why? it's basically the next step in the X window system |
| 12:45.45 | m4lu8 | umbop, what's your issue? |
| 12:45.47 | PerfDave | bluefox83: /msg dpkg xorg-nvidia |
| 12:45.56 | umbop | i've followed the howto's for xinerama |
| 12:46.02 | GregM | waht are the benefits of Xorg over Xfree86 ?? |
| 12:46.09 | m4lu8 | ah. a subject i'm quite fond of. |
| 12:46.14 | liable | Ford-Prefect: so you had installed it, and then you needed to install x-window-system-core? |
| 12:46.17 | gilead | umbop: this can generally be caused by 1. screen names mismatch 2. screens are configured out of monitor's range |
| 12:46.20 | PerfDave | bluefox83: Because xorg is in unstable. If you're running unstable, it's also worth mentioning that. |
| 12:46.20 | drac | umbop: X.Org or XFree86 ? |
| 12:46.21 | priest | when will xorg be default instead of xfree86? |
| 12:46.22 | greycat | !xorg advantages |
| 12:46.23 | dpkg | xorg advantages are numerous, but not numerous enough to risk breaking Sarge. The Composite extension increases eye candy, the Damage extension makesd XOrg faster locally and on a network. Oh, and unlike XFree 4.4+, XOrg is DFSG Free |
| 12:46.34 | umbop | XFreer86 |
| 12:46.39 | m4lu8 | Mmm. Eyecandy. |
| 12:46.44 | gilead | umbop: first try to launch first monitor, then second one, separately |
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| 12:46.52 | greycat | I'm not sure that's a complete list (or even showing the most important ones). |
| 12:47.04 | umbop | well i can get both monitors to see the same thing |
| 12:47.10 | umbop | i.e. duplicate screens |
| 12:47.11 | Ford-Prefect | can't find Xorg in the lists in aptitude |
| 12:47.14 | drac | umbop: X.Org would support accellerated dualhead with ATi, XFree86 doesn't. |
| 12:47.17 | Ford-Prefect | (using sid) |
| 12:47.26 | umbop | ach |
| 12:47.33 | umbop | xinerama is part of XFree86 |
| 12:47.36 | umbop | which supports dual head |
| 12:47.36 | PerfDave | !info xserver-xorg sid |
| 12:47.38 | liable | Ford-Prefect: if you cant even find it.... |
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| 12:47.42 | greycat | dpkg, xorg disadvantages is <reply> Currently, Xorg in sid breaks nvidia-glx (see <xorg-nvidia>), and it collides with the C++ ABI upgrade. |
| 12:47.42 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 12:47.43 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 5523 kB, Installed size: 15540 kB |
| 12:47.48 | drac | umbop: mergedfb pseudo-xinerama is part of X.Org. :-) |
| 12:47.57 | m4lu8 | umbop, you are starting x with the xinerama option, yes? |
| 12:48.01 | umbop | yes |
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| 12:48.12 | jm_ | the net update will (has?) fix nvidia-glx stuff |
| 12:48.17 | jm_ | next* |
| 12:48.18 | drac | umbop: http://hdr.unk.fi/~drac/dualhead_with_mergedfb_on_radeon.txt would work with X.Org, but you have XFree86 :-( |
| 12:48.22 | PerfDave | I'm not going to install xorg at least until all the bugs are ironed out. XFree86 works just fine for me ta, and with nvidia :) |
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| 12:48.26 | Ford-Prefect | what's the pack name again? |
| 12:48.33 | umbop | ok sorry i'm getting confused here. Can i have dual monitor with one graphics card from a laptop and an lcd screen with XFree86? or do i need X.org ? |
| 12:48.34 | greycat | dpkg, xorg advantages =~ s/The Composite/The ATi drivers are *dramatically* better; the Composite/ |
| 12:48.34 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 12:48.35 | m4lu8 | i'd make my XF86Config file available for you to see, but my home box, my Nvidia (twinview) xinerama box, is offline, THANK YOU timewarner. |
| 12:48.49 | gilead | umbop: paste your X config file somewhere and go back with URL |
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| 12:49.09 | torrent | i have an xorg.conf for a quadro if that helps |
| 12:49.12 | gilead | umbop: xfree86 is fine for that |
| 12:49.17 | liable | m4lu8: time warner? |
| 12:49.40 | m4lu8 | go, broadcom, go! |
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| 12:51.27 | Ford-Prefect | now it's solved :) |
| 12:51.50 | umbop | http://sial.org/pbot/11850 |
| 12:51.51 | Ford-Prefect | thank you very much for your help |
| 12:52.01 | umbop | that's my XF86Config-4 |
| 12:52.05 | Ford-Prefect | I am getting a crashcourse in brushing off my linux/debian skills |
| 12:52.44 | FFAMax | hello ppl |
| 12:52.48 | Guerin | !ppl |
| 12:52.49 | xtz | hi there, i added a new NIC in my debian box, configurated it in "/etc/network/interfaces", but it still dont work. It show mac address "FF:Ff:ff:ff:ff:ff" in ifconfig... what can i do ? |
| 12:52.49 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
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| 12:53.08 | BobW | anyone know why some commands dont work on a remote nc connection using UDP, they work for normal TCP |
| 12:53.29 | Ford-Prefect | oh great. . . xine have no sound! *muttres* |
| 12:53.38 | Ford-Prefect | but that is something I will have to solve later today |
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| 12:54.19 | nsk | hi |
| 12:54.34 | nsk | I am installing debian3.1r0 from a 2-DVD set I downloaded |
| 12:54.36 | Ford-Prefect | and it seems as the x-window-system packs are ok now in SID on ftp.debian.org |
| 12:54.44 | umbop | it doesn't like the fact that i have declared two screens |
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| 12:55.07 | nsk | I booted with DVD1, I partitioned, I saw a list of packages, some of them already chosen and I chose some additional I like |
| 12:55.11 | FFAMax | pls, help me - i want download new pakeges by internet, but unknow name of command (program for update) |
| 12:55.18 | nsk | now it downloads lots of stuff from a mirror |
| 12:55.22 | nsk | but my question is |
| 12:55.24 | gilead | umbop: try to leave only one bit depth/resolution, the same for both screen, which you're sure is working |
| 12:55.32 | jm_ | nsk: you can write longer lines you know |
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| 12:55.49 | nsk | what is being downloaded, exactly? it got some security updates and theadditional stuff I checked |
| 12:55.53 | boycer | FFAMax: aptitude, or apt-get |
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| 12:55.56 | nsk | but I see it downloads much more stuff |
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| 12:56.15 | nsk | why it downloads all that stuff since I have 2 DVDs full of debian packages ?? |
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| 12:56.38 | umbop | well it;s saying Undefined device "ati technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility M6 LY 2" referecned by Screen "Second Screen". |
| 12:56.48 | wingot | !sudo |
| 12:56.48 | dpkg | it has been said that sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon.It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 12:57.09 | gilead | umbop: also, I don't see second monitor section |
| 12:57.18 | nsk | !passwd |
| 12:57.18 | dpkg | New password: |
| 12:57.27 | nsk | !su |
| 12:57.27 | dpkg | Password: |
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| 12:57.38 | nsk | !cp |
| 12:57.38 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cp is a command used to copy a file/folder to another destination without affecting the original file/place (basic syntax: cp /this/file.blah /here/) |
| 12:57.38 | RichiH | heh |
| 12:57.46 | boycer | !botabuse |
| 12:57.46 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 12:57.56 | nsk | so anyone can answer me the question? |
| 12:58.06 | boycer | nsk: Debian likes the internet. |
| 12:58.24 | d03boy | brb humans, wish me luck |
| 12:58.27 | RichiH | nsk: did you add your dvd to the repository? |
| 12:58.32 | Ford-Prefect | debian on freenode, it's greeeeat! |
| 12:58.34 | Ford-Prefect | ;) |
| 12:58.35 | boycer | nsk: you only need cds or dvds if you don't have an internet connection. |
| 12:58.37 | nsk | oh |
| 12:58.37 | Ford-Prefect | leter guys |
| 12:58.42 | RichiH | nsk: i.e. does debian know there are packages on the dvds? |
| 12:58.43 | Ford-Prefect | thanks for all the help :) |
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| 12:58.51 | nsk | my laptop doesn't have an internet connection always |
| 12:58.51 | RichiH | nsk: also, did you upgrade to testing? |
| 12:59.09 | boycer | nsk: so only install/upgrade stuff when it does :) |
| 12:59.31 | nsk | I hope this installer gets refactored in 3.2/4.0... |
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| 13:00.01 | benjamindees | nsk, apt-cdrom |
| 13:00.03 | boycer | nsk: why? what's wrong with it? And what's 'refactored' anyay? |
| 13:00.18 | liquid_ | hi, how can I download these packages using apt: http://pastebin.com/316189 and NOT installing them? I need them for a network install. |
| 13:00.30 | gilead | nsk: I haven't seen the new installer, but old one was asking questions where it's supposed to find packages, be sure you did configured your DVDs as as source |
| 13:00.32 | nsk | it asked me read agile development and XP |
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| 13:00.39 | greycat | "refactor" is a buzzword that developers are using for the last 8 months or so |
| 13:00.48 | nsk | boycer: read agile devel and XP |
| 13:00.53 | benjamindees | OT, but anybody have a fark.com account, who wants to post a ps for me? |
| 13:00.57 | jm_ | gilead: new one does exactly the same |
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| 13:01.11 | boycer | nsk: what's that then? |
| 13:01.11 | liable | a ps? |
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| 13:01.27 | d03boy | it works! praise the lord! thanks to whoever told me to /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
| 13:01.34 | benjamindees | liable, photoshop (contest) entry |
| 13:01.41 | nsk | boycer: XP is extreme programming |
| 13:01.45 | greycat | !praise the greycat |
| 13:01.54 | liable | benjamindees: oh, thanks for clarifying. :) |
| 13:01.54 | d03boy | =] |
| 13:01.56 | nsk | !praise the nsk |
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| 13:02.00 | Dave2 | Hey. Can anyone give me any pointers as to being able to forward non-local mail a la http://www.exim.org/eximwiki/FAQ/Routing_to_remote_hosts/Q0304 , but where the remote host uses SMTP AUTH? I've looked around and can't see anything on it. (This is with exim 4, running on etch, if that matters) |
| 13:02.36 | nsk | now I understand why it downloads |
| 13:02.53 | nsk | it asked me where to get apt packages |
| 13:03.02 | liable | xtreme programming... wtf. what do they use electrified keyboards whilst programming in the shower??? |
| 13:03.30 | nsk | I thought it alreasy knew I booted from a full DVD, so as a user I thought Debian installer was smart and was asking me from where to get additional packages or security fixes |
| 13:03.34 | nsk | so I answered FTP |
| 13:03.42 | nsk | come on |
| 13:03.49 | boycer | hmmm - extreme programming. sounds suspiciously like bollocks to me. |
| 13:03.56 | nsk | is this installer in C or in C++ ? |
| 13:04.00 | gilead | btw, nsk, you used 'refactored' term incorrectly here, you meant 'fixed' ;-) |
| 13:04.02 | GooooGle | Im dialing to my ISP using CHAT. Everything turns out fine, the modem dials but it just hangs up at the end and doesnt connect. I tried different expectations for the "Login" and "Password" fields. |
| 13:04.10 | nsk | lol gilead |
| 13:04.17 | PerfDave | Dave2: /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH may have the information you want :) |
| 13:04.38 | Dave2 | /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH: No such file or directory |
| 13:04.42 | Dave2 | hehe |
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| 13:04.49 | nsk | who developed this installer? even minesweaper is user-unfriendly, it needs me ton use Enter to play, but it should be Spacebar |
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| 13:04.58 | Dave2 | exim4-base |
| 13:05.11 | nsk | where can I find a mailinglist or webpage for the debian installer project ? |
| 13:05.28 | PerfDave | nsk: http://www.google.com/ |
| 13:05.31 | boycer | nsk: fgi - debian-installer |
| 13:05.43 | GooooGle | PerfDave: Im dialing to my ISP using CHAT. Everything turns out fine, the modem dials but it just hangs up at the end and doesnt connect. I tried different expectations for the "Login" and "Password" fields. |
| 13:05.52 | nsk | nah, too lazy to google it |
| 13:06.00 | boycer | nsk: then just shut up |
| 13:06.12 | umbop | ok here is the error log for my XF86Config when i try to startx -- +xinerama http://sial.org/pbot/11851 and this is the config itself http://sial.org/pbot/11852 |
| 13:06.19 | nsk | if it's C I could fix this f* installer |
| 13:06.23 | PerfDave | GooooGle: I've never used dial-up in Linux :) |
| 13:06.29 | GooooGle | =p |
| 13:06.33 | thom_ | What do you do if you have forgotten your root password? |
| 13:06.39 | boycer | nsk: so fix it already!! This is open source after all. |
| 13:06.44 | GooooGle | thom_: Format =p |
| 13:06.52 | greycat | nsk: #debian-boot |
| 13:06.53 | nsk | I want the cvs vers |
| 13:06.54 | liquid_ | hi, what should I do about this: http://pastebin.com/316198 |
| 13:07.18 | greycat | liquid_: man apt-get |
| 13:07.19 | thom_ | GooooGle Aside from that |
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| 13:07.24 | lord_rob | thom_: boot with a knoppix-like cd |
| 13:07.27 | umbop | it doesn't like the part where it starts to assign device section with no busID to the pimary device |
| 13:07.29 | gilead | umbop: try to add eg. BusID"PCI:1:0:0" to Device sections (the same BusID for both) |
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| 13:07.36 | nsk | thank you greycat |
| 13:07.40 | umbop | hmm ok |
| 13:07.40 | streuner | greycat: you want sent this idiot to them? I think they have fun ... ;-) |
| 13:07.41 | liquid_ | greycat I got that from man apt-get :/ |
| 13:07.41 | thom_ | lord_rob knoppix like? |
| 13:07.55 | nsk | I am not an idiot streuner |
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| 13:08.11 | GooooGle | apt-get -d ?? :/ |
| 13:08.19 | pattern_ | what's a good app to catalog audio CDs? (ideal app would automatically search CDDB for title of CD & song names, and allow a felxible way of searching for CDs/songs) |
| 13:08.23 | lord_rob | thom_: www.knoppix.net |
| 13:08.32 | streuner | nsk: well, before you critizise, make sure you do stuff as good as others |
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| 13:09.18 | jethro | !lart nsk |
| 13:09.25 | lord_rob | thom_: while in knoppix, you can mount your root partition then remove the root password, as explained in the debian install manual |
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| 13:09.46 | liable | !forgot root password |
| 13:09.54 | liable | gah |
| 13:09.54 | jm_ | !i forgot root's password |
| 13:09.54 | dpkg | 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work); For GRUB (e.g. sarge): in step 1, press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same. |
| 13:10.01 | liable | jm_: thanks |
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| 13:10.33 | liquid_ | GooooGle yeah according to the manpage -d = download only but somehow I'm doing something very stupid which I didn't figure yet |
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| 13:13.14 | jan_ | Hmm, stupid question, but i always wondered why there isn't a non-US testing/unstable |
| 13:13.29 | asg | jan_: /topic |
| 13:13.29 | jm_ | jan_: you should read release notes for Sarge |
| 13:13.36 | jan_ | i see |
| 13:13.37 | jan_ | ok |
| 13:13.38 | jm_ | ohh and topic |
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| 13:14.11 | jan_ | non-us is no more. |
| 13:14.15 | jan_ | aah, ok , thanks:) |
| 13:14.16 | nkuttler | lord_rob: usually you can access any box you have physical access to |
| 13:14.21 | darkskiez | lord_rob: if you have physical access to a machine you can just read the harddisk |
| 13:14.40 | jan_ | already kernel 2.6.12 packages in the loop? |
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| 13:14.53 | darkskiez | lord_rob: for a little bit of added security, you can password protect your bios and grub/lilo, but if it can be taken apart...your boned without encryption |
| 13:14.57 | jm_ | jan_: /msg dpkg search |
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| 13:15.13 | jan_ | jm_: well, obviously not on the official servers |
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| 13:15.45 | jm_ | jan_: so why are you asking if you know the answer? |
| 13:16.20 | octopuce | can i get the last kernel in a Deb package |
| 13:16.24 | octopuce | ? |
| 13:16.37 | nkuttler | octopuce: /msg dpkg kp |
| 13:16.39 | jan_ | perhaps there are some deverloper packages; dunno :) |
| 13:16.48 | jm_ | you can make your own |
| 13:17.07 | umbop | ahh got it working now it needed the BUSID |
| 13:17.09 | jan_ | i was planning it anyway :) |
| 13:17.18 | PerfDave | octopuce: Define "last kernel"? Which version of Debian are you running? |
| 13:17.25 | jethro | !nonus jan_ |
| 13:17.26 | dpkg | Hey, jan_, the topic says non-us doesn't exist anymore. Wheee! Ask me about 'non-us'. |
| 13:17.40 | umbop | thanks gilead |
| 13:17.45 | liable | !irritate jethro |
| 13:17.45 | dpkg | jethro: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? how does I run teh grafixx windows !!!! |
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| 13:17.51 | gilead | np umbop :) |
| 13:18.01 | jethro | dpkg: PLZ HELP !!!! |
| 13:18.02 | gilead | umbop: that was one lousy article you used, next time first try to use one of the HOWTO-s ;-) |
| 13:18.04 | umbop | must eat now :) starving! |
| 13:18.09 | umbop | yeh |
| 13:18.11 | emfpilot | Hello all.. just wondering does X.org look any better than free86? |
| 13:18.13 | liable | heh |
| 13:18.24 | streuner | emfpilot: no |
| 13:18.26 | greycat | it looks however you tell it to look |
| 13:18.30 | jethro | emfpilot: it looks the same by default. |
| 13:18.39 | emfpilot | ok thx |
| 13:18.45 | gilead | emfpilot: yes, if you have an application which can use new bells & whistles |
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| 13:19.13 | emfpilot | Right on, thx |
| 13:19.20 | octopuce | thank you |
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| 13:21.09 | junix|work | is there an easy way to setup vnc4server to work with display 0 on X? |
| 13:21.29 | petemc | junix|work: change your display variable and start it |
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| 13:21.35 | gilead | junix|work: your X server should have built-in VNC capability, try to use 'vnc' X module |
| 13:21.43 | petemc | junix|work: or use rfb |
| 13:21.44 | mammoth | ow |
| 13:21.57 | jm_ | junix|work: rfb or similar |
| 13:22.01 | jm_ | or x11vnc |
| 13:22.06 | petemc | or vino |
| 13:22.20 | nsk | !lart nsk |
| 13:22.33 | nsk | !lart jethro |
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| 13:24.55 | saboteur | i have just built d-i with the target of build_netboot_2.6, but it didn't create a dest directory or anything in it :( |
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| 13:25.30 | space_cow_boy | I can ssh into a box, but when I try to scp files to that box, nothing happens. I don't get prompted for a password or anything, the server just ignores me and nothing happens. What is wrong? |
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| 13:25.57 | greycat | what scp command are you typing? |
| 13:26.01 | BobW | how can i ping a udp port |
| 13:26.05 | BobW | netcat? |
| 13:26.08 | asg | BobW: netcat |
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| 13:26.23 | space_cow_boy | greycat scp www.tar.gz clark@IPADDRES |
| 13:26.36 | asg | space_cow_boy: put a ':' after IPADDRESS |
| 13:26.38 | gilead | space_cow_boy: scp www.tar.gz clark@IPADDRES: |
| 13:26.38 | greycat | you need a : on the end |
| 13:26.48 | mammoth | ow |
| 13:26.49 | jm_ | haha nice one ;) |
| 13:26.51 | greycat | I'm surprised you didn't get a syntax error |
| 13:26.52 | oukki2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.53 | space_cow_boy | thanks lol oops |
| 13:27.00 | jm_ | it created a file name clark@IPADDRES |
| 13:27.01 | space_cow_boy | haha, it has been a while (blush) |
| 13:27.04 | asg | greycat: usually, that just copies the files locally |
| 13:27.07 | boycer | space_cow_boy: and you'll probably need to 'rm clark\@IPADDRES' too... |
| 13:27.10 | jm_ | so no syntax error |
| 13:27.15 | BobW | asg, is there a ping switch or something, i cant find it |
| 13:27.16 | Coke | !lol |
| 13:27.16 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a knoppix user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 13:27.21 | greycat | imadev:~$ scp .profile greg@wooledge.org |
| 13:27.21 | greycat | imadev:~$ |
| 13:27.24 | greycat | interesting. |
| 13:27.41 | asg | greycat: ls -l greg@wooledge.org |
| 13:27.46 | boycer | greycat: ls greg* |
| 13:27.49 | greycat | asg: already did, then deleted it :) |
| 13:27.49 | Coke | greycat: yeah |
| 13:27.51 | asg | BobW: just try to open the port. |
| 13:27.53 | asg | greycat: :) |
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| 13:28.08 | asg | greycat: that is the single biggest nagging typo I perform regularly. |
| 13:28.11 | oukki2 | . |
| 13:28.30 | Coke | greycat: scp wouldn't know where on wooledge.org to copy your file |
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| 13:28.39 | greycat | Coke: I expected an error |
| 13:28.48 | Coke | greycat: that would have been more logical, yes. |
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| 13:29.02 | lord_rob | emfpilot: if you upgrade to Xorg right now, it will more likely look like nothing at all, because you won't get all the dependancies... |
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| 13:29.36 | space_cow_boy | thanks guys, lol I can't believe I forgot the format for scp |
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| 13:30.07 | dave | hi! anyone experienced with preseeding and custom debian-boot cds ? |
| 13:30.22 | emfpilot | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
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| 13:31.08 | laserite | hi there, i'm installing an amd64 with 2 sata drives with sil3114 sata raid driver, when i create a raid0 volume in bios, debian boot cd sees two sdx drives instead of one, why? |
| 13:31.15 | nsk | what's the meaning of that image ? |
| 13:31.28 | jm_ | laserite: because it's not hardware RAID |
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| 13:31.38 | laserite | yep it is, i double checked |
| 13:31.39 | nsk | sil3114 is software raid |
| 13:31.45 | laserite | it's not even fake hw raid, as 3112 |
| 13:31.45 | jm_ | it isn't |
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| 13:31.53 | nsk | it is |
| 13:32.03 | Terra-Niux | I cant apt-get libapache2-mod-php5 it says Building Dependency Tree... Done Package libapache2-mod-php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 13:32.12 | nsk | I also thought sil was hardware when I buyed my first sil, but then I found it isn't. |
| 13:32.20 | FieldySnuts | laserite: what is happening is, they say it is hardware raid. in reality it is not, it depends on drivers (usually windows drivers) to fully function, therefore, it is not 100% hardware but more like 80% |
| 13:32.21 | laserite | jm_, it is, i double checked, i own an 3112 and i know it's fake hw raid, but 3114's much better, it's hw raid |
| 13:32.36 | FieldySnuts | no it is not. but have fun arguing with us. |
| 13:32.38 | PerfDave | Bah. Using jigdo in $HOME which is NFS-mounted over 10baseT is slow. I am foolish for not realising why it was taking so damn long. |
| 13:32.41 | nsk | 3114 is much better but still software |
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| 13:32.48 | laserite | ok, ok, i'm not having fun... :) |
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| 13:32.54 | dobby | hello when i ask my browser the question to load www.university.gov.au what does my dns do. Does my resolver search for www.university.gov.au. or www.university.gov.au ? |
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| 13:32.57 | FieldySnuts | i have never seen an si* be 100% hardware, ever |
| 13:33.03 | FieldySnuts | which is why i avoid them |
| 13:33.24 | greycat | dobby: strace it and find out. |
| 13:33.26 | FieldySnuts | frustrating situation, i know |
| 13:33.26 | PerfDave | dobby: It does what your web browser tells it to :) |
| 13:33.27 | Terra-Niux | any idea? |
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| 13:33.30 | jm_ | laserite: naah, it's software based - check Linux SATA page |
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| 13:33.46 | PerfDave | Terra-Niux: Which version of Debian are you running? I didn't think that PHP5 was in Debian. Are you using unofficial repositories? |
| 13:33.47 | dobby | So it does not always search with the FQDN? |
| 13:33.52 | laserite | jm_, oki... checking... (thanks) |
| 13:33.55 | N-GaG3 | im dialing to my ISP using Chat under Debian. everything is ok according to the SysLog but just before it connects, it disconnects with "Failed - No Carrier" in the SysLog....[ The modem sounds perfectly normal too ] |
| 13:34.03 | FieldySnuts | i've certainly never seen an sata "raid" card that was 100% hardware |
| 13:34.05 | Terra-Niux | im not sure, I did an aptitude search and its in there, I want to install it |
| 13:34.10 | FieldySnuts | and I have seen a lot of them |
| 13:34.10 | PerfDave | dobby: The DNS resolver does what it's told to by the application calling it. |
| 13:34.10 | jm_ | laserite: dm-raid can be used for this |
| 13:34.20 | PerfDave | Terra-Niux: Which version of Debian are you running? |
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| 13:34.43 | migma | !chap |
| 13:34.43 | dpkg | hmm... chap is (Challenge-Handshake Authentication Protocol) an authentication protocol used to log on a user to an Internet access provider. CHAP is used to periodically verify the identity of the client by using a 3-way handshake. This is done upon initial link establishment, and may be repeated anytime after the link has been established. |
| 13:34.43 | Terra-Niux | Sarge I think |
| 13:34.46 | laserite | jm_, dm-raid? what's that? (sorry for my ignorance) |
| 13:34.49 | Terra-Niux | hang on |
| 13:34.52 | ricky_clarkson | Not a huge problem, but my sound skips when I switch from X to tty. Any solutions? |
| 13:34.52 | PerfDave | Terra-Niux: You think? |
| 13:34.58 | ricky_clarkson | Preferably not water-based. |
| 13:35.00 | jm_ | laserite: Linux SATA FAQ has a link, go there and read |
| 13:35.04 | Terra-Niux | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 |
| 13:35.06 | PerfDave | ricky_clarkson: xterm? :) |
| 13:35.08 | asg | ricky_clarkson: what kernel are you using? |
| 13:35.09 | Terra-Niux | what do you want? kernel? what? |
| 13:35.17 | liable | GoOooOGlE: carrier check = no |
| 13:35.21 | Terra-Niux | it is Sarge |
| 13:35.21 | ricky_clarkson | 2.6.5-3.142919693498298234 |
| 13:35.30 | laserite | jm_, ok thanks! |
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| 13:35.34 | jm_ | laserite: np |
| 13:35.37 | PerfDave | Terra-Niux: What does "apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php5" tell you? |
| 13:35.42 | asg | ricky_clarkson: do you have the pre-emptive functionality enabled? |
| 13:35.51 | GoOooOGlE | liable: Where's that, in /etc/ppp/options? (I suppose?) |
| 13:35.52 | ricky_clarkson | asg: Not afaik. |
| 13:36.00 | asg | ricky_clarkson: you might want to enable that, it should help. |
| 13:36.04 | Terra-Niux | libapache2-mod-php5: |
| 13:36.04 | Terra-Niux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.04 | Terra-Niux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.04 | Terra-Niux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.04 | Terra-Niux | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.04 | Terra-Niux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:36.21 | greycat | !pal apache2 users |
| 13:36.23 | migma | !flood |
| 13:36.23 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 13:36.28 | liable | GoOooOGlE: I use wvdial, but yeah, its somewhere in the ppp files. |
| 13:36.34 | GoOooOGlE | k |
| 13:36.38 | GoOooOGlE | brb |
| 13:36.42 | ricky_clarkson | asg: That's not simple to do though, is it? |
| 13:36.46 | laserite | jm_, i see, this is a new server, i should go with sw raid right? |
| 13:36.50 | Terra-Niux | that enough? |
| 13:36.52 | asg | ricky_clarkson: recompile the kernel basically |
| 13:37.01 | jm_ | laserite: up to you |
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| 13:37.10 | ricky_clarkson | asg: Sucks to that. |
| 13:37.10 | asg | ricky_clarkson: CONFIG_PREEMPT=y |
| 13:37.20 | GoOooOGlE | liable: by the way, What's Carrier ? |
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| 13:37.33 | ricky_clarkson | GoOooOGlE: A kind of pigeon. |
| 13:37.38 | GoOooOGlE | :| |
| 13:37.40 | asg | !rfc1149 |
| 13:37.40 | Dave2 | PerfDave, after a bunch of playing around, I can't get it to actually authenticate to the SMTP server; "2005-07-19 14:24:00 1Dus4i-0006Kn-0b ** dave@jpgclan.com R=send_to_gateway T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<dave@jpgclan.com>: host auth.smtp.1and1.co.uk [212.227.15.163]: 550 must be authenticated". I've configured it as in the link I pasted earlier for forwarding all mail, and followed the directions |
| 13:37.41 | dpkg | i guess rfc1149 is Standard for the transmission of IP datagrams on avian carriers. D. Waitzman. Apr-01-1990. (Format: TXT=3329 bytes) (Status: EXPERIMENTAL) |
| 13:37.41 | Dave2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.45 | greycat | it's what your modem needs to Detect |
| 13:37.50 | PerfDave | Terra-Niux: /msg dpkg paster |
| 13:38.09 | liable | GoOooOGlE: the actual signal I think. |
| 13:38.10 | GoOooOGlE | I didnt get it but anywya, i'll try carrier check = no |
| 13:38.13 | Terra-Niux | did you want the output? |
| 13:38.21 | GoOooOGlE | Actually i'll hope to find carrier check = no :| |
| 13:38.36 | liable | GoOooOGlE: its in the docs for pppd |
| 13:38.37 | PerfDave | Dave2: You should be able to set up everything other than SMTP AUTH using "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" then just poke in the SMTP auth stuff at the end. |
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| 13:38.42 | GoOooOGlE | k thx |
| 13:38.45 | PerfDave | Dave2: You *did* restart exim, didn't you? |
| 13:39.03 | braniff | how do i persist entries in /etc/network/interfaces from one boot to the next ?? |
| 13:39.18 | Dave2 | PerfDave, yes. |
| 13:39.23 | GregM | :wq |
| 13:39.29 | PerfDave | braniff: Entries in /etc/network/interfaces *are* kept between boots, that's what it's there for. |
| 13:39.52 | braniff | PerfDave, hmm... my entries were erased |
| 13:40.13 | ricky_clarkson | ETOO_MANY_DAVES |
| 13:40.29 | migma | braniff: did you open the file as root? |
| 13:40.49 | dancios | Ecuse me :) I've got problem..... when i switch from XF86 to x.org. There is Error when Gnome starts about XKB and i cannot switch to console becouse layout is strange........., and when i return to Xfree86 everything seems to be ok ? What can couse this problem ? |
| 13:41.01 | braniff | migma, yes, # cat /etc/network/interfaces gives nothing |
| 13:41.14 | migma | hmm |
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| 13:42.01 | PerfDave | dancios: You're running unstable :) |
| 13:42.20 | dancios | PerfDave : so X.org is still experimental ? |
| 13:42.29 | PerfDave | dancios: No, it's unstable :) |
| 13:42.41 | jme | heh, i was wondering why apt wasn't finding any updates forever. forgot i had it in a crontab :D |
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| 13:43.36 | dancios | PerfDave unstable is always stable..... but gnome is complayning about some librarys so there was quick comeback to xfree86 |
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| 13:43.51 | PerfDave | dancios: No, unstable is not always stable. |
| 13:43.52 | migma | :O |
| 13:43.53 | jme | um. |
| 13:43.58 | jme | unstable is NOT always stable ;) |
| 13:44.04 | jme | unstable is a huge moving target. |
| 13:44.05 | migma | unstable != stable |
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| 13:44.29 | jme | well, maybe not a huge moving target, but you get the idea |
| 13:44.37 | drac | dancios: Change driver "keyboard" or "Keyboard" to "kbd" from xorg.conf. |
| 13:45.06 | dancios | PerfDave especiali gnome complayning about 5libraris and few program containing kaybord in name.... and X11.org was working slower than xfree86 on my voodoo3 |
| 13:45.39 | drac | dancios: XKbRules "xfree86" to "xorg" |
| 13:45.48 | PerfDave | dancios: Yes, you're running unstable, that sort of stuff happens. Especially after a new release. If you're running unstable, you should have enough clue, with the aid of the BTS, to fix it. If you don't, don't run unstable. |
| 13:46.02 | BobW | can i rename a file in cron.hourly so cron will skip it? |
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| 13:46.24 | greycat | I suppose you can. |
| 13:46.33 | greycat | of course it's run-parts that's skipping it, not cron per se. |
| 13:46.37 | jme | i thought cron ran things in those directories whatever the name was? |
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| 13:47.03 | greycat | no, it reads /etc/crontab and the personal crontabs. |
| 13:47.04 | asg | jme: no, run-parts will skip certain filenames that doen't meet a certain criteria |
| 13:47.13 | greycat | /etc/crontab has a run-parts line that reads cron.daily etc. |
| 13:47.22 | BobW | asg, whats the criteria? |
| 13:47.27 | greycat | BobW: man run-parts |
| 13:47.31 | jme | greycat: i knew that. |
| 13:47.32 | asg | BobW: Debian cron script namespace (^[a-z0-9][a-z0-9-]*$). (man run-parts) |
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| 13:47.50 | PissedTrixBunny | wild day... |
| 13:47.59 | dancios | Thanks for help :) and ideas what could be wrong :) |
| 13:48.05 | asg | PissedTrixBunny: farmers after you again? |
| 13:48.24 | jme | heh |
| 13:48.25 | PissedTrixBunny | asg: noo..... the kids don't give me any cereals... |
| 13:48.42 | stew | silly |
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| 13:48.56 | asg | PissedTrixBunny: demand a cut of the profits, buy some Boo Berry or Count Chocula |
| 13:49.13 | PissedTrixBunny | I like fruity loops |
| 13:49.20 | PissedTrixBunny | colorful and sweet |
| 13:49.23 | greycat | I think you could take out Toucan Sam. |
| 13:49.46 | jme | celebrity death match! trix bunny vs. toucan sam! |
| 13:49.50 | greycat | grab some cereal and run into your rabbit hole, and he can't fit that beak down through the opening |
| 13:50.35 | Dave2 | PerfDave, yay, got it working, thanks |
| 13:50.54 | PissedTrixBunny | hey, how do you "generate" and "startup" file for fluxbox? |
| 13:51.04 | PerfDave | Dave2: Winnar! :) |
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| 13:51.25 | BobW | jme, i think toucan sam would peck bunny real hard |
| 13:51.25 | ricky_clarkson | What's a .ACT file that an MP3 player records to? |
| 13:51.38 | PerfDave | You know, if I still had an unstable system, I'd look at patching exim4-config's debconf thing to allow SMTP auth at install / reconfigure time. |
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| 13:52.06 | PissedTrixBunny | I remember cp it from a certain directory.... where is it? (to get a "startup" file for fluxbox) |
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| 13:53.26 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: /usr/share/doc/fluxbox/examples perhaps? |
| 13:53.53 | dobby | Back to the dns ;-) i just strace it. But what is the difference if i enter www.ubs.ch or www.ubs.ch. into my browser. Do i force the dns to lookup the query at the dns root server. Or do I get the request back if the ip is found? |
| 13:54.12 | PissedTrixBunny | you suck!!! I just want some cereals.... you're just like those horrible kids... spoonfeed me for once! |
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| 13:54.14 | Scognito | hi all |
| 13:54.16 | greycat | dobby: your web browser is *not* host(1). |
| 13:54.25 | greycat | dobby: it's a GUI application built for drooling windows users |
| 13:54.35 | ana | hola |
| 13:54.45 | greycat | !spoonfeed PissedTrixBunny |
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| 13:55.12 | PerfDave | dobby: Using a comma-terminated name in DNS doesn't mean it'll go ot the root servers. It just means that a resolver won't try to append a local part on to the domain name. |
| 13:55.13 | dobby | greycat: sorry but i dont understand that. I thought when i do a request it always do a FQDN reuquest from dns to dns |
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| 13:55.15 | Scognito | i can umount my ipod that is under /dev/sde2 but i still got "do not disconnect" message on the ipod...someone that has ipod can help me? |
| 13:55.25 | mfrisch | ok I just used kpkg where is the deb? |
| 13:55.27 | greycat | dpkg, spoonfeed $1 is <reply> Silly $1, Unix tricks are for bots. |
| 13:55.28 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 13:55.38 | greycat | mfrisch: .. |
| 13:55.48 | dobby | Thank you PerfDave! Thants what i wanted to know |
| 13:56.14 | PissedTrixBunny | !spoonfeed PissedTrixBunny |
| 13:56.14 | greycat | PerfDave: comma? wtf? |
| 13:56.15 | dpkg | Silly PissedTrixBunny, Unix tricks are for bots. |
| 13:56.27 | PissedTrixBunny | that's cute.... I like that |
| 13:56.30 | PerfDave | greycat, dobby: Sorry, I meant full-stop. |
| 13:56.38 | PerfDave | dobby: If I type "http://antipode" (a local machine) into my web browser, my local DNS server will check antipode.localdomain which resolves. If I put "http://antipode." it would try to find some global "antipode" which won't work unless I'm using Alternic or some other crap ;) |
| 13:56.43 | The_Bartender | can someone tell me which channel on here helps you learn how to MIRC script? |
| 13:57.01 | greycat | hahaha, #mirc doesn't exist or is hidden |
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| 13:57.23 | jethro | !fgi themolester mirc+scripts+howto |
| 13:57.24 | dpkg | themolester: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=mirc+scripts+howto |
| 13:57.26 | jethro | damn |
| 13:57.27 | Gathond | The_Bartender: a windows channel might have more luck with knowing that |
| 13:57.31 | eye69 | The_Bartender: mIRC is a closed source commercial Windows IRC client. You're not likely to find that here. |
| 13:57.33 | jethro | I so suck at typing .. |
| 13:57.38 | Gathond | damn he left |
| 13:57.48 | jethro | themolester: sorry about the fgi |
| 13:57.59 | stew | yeah, damn |
| 13:58.10 | PeterB | There's always !tell... |
| 13:58.13 | dobby | Thanks guys! |
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| 13:58.52 | PissedTrixBunny | how do I list packages again? |
| 13:58.56 | greycat | !faq PissedTrixBunny |
| 13:58.56 | PissedTrixBunny | dpkg ls? |
| 13:58.57 | dpkg | PissedTrixBunny: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 13:58.57 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
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| 13:59.07 | mfrisch | ok I just used kpkg where is the deb? |
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| 13:59.11 | greycat | mfrisch: .. |
| 13:59.11 | liable | hah |
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| 13:59.18 | PissedTrixBunny | waah wah!!! |
| 13:59.26 | mfrisch | greycat where? |
| 13:59.29 | greycat | mfrisch: .. |
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| 13:59.46 | liable | mfrisch: in the dir where you made it from, prolly /root |
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| 14:00.18 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, man, I thought you called me a fag.... that wouldn't be cool.... but if you did... I'd say: "why, are you interested in creating a inter-animal thing? you know.... cat and bunny....you know....aah, I'll be here all day" |
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| 14:00.49 | liable | wow |
| 14:00.54 | Gnea | oh my |
| 14:01.04 | Gnea | is that a gnome or a troll |
| 14:01.24 | mfrisch | liable nope but I have stuff called stamp in the source |
| 14:01.28 | Ronin | well that was interesting, im thinking troll |
| 14:01.34 | Gnea | likewise |
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| 14:01.55 | liable | mfrisch: go down one dir from source, which is .. btw |
| 14:02.02 | PeterB | mfrisch: greycat told you three times. It's in ../ |
| 14:02.24 | mfrisch | liable I did look nothing there?!? |
| 14:02.54 | greycat | mfrisch: then perhaps your make-kpkg encountered errors. |
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| 14:03.48 | GoOooOGlE | liable: Havent been able to find that setting. Took a picture of my screen in "syslog". It says "Abort On: NO CARRIER" but I cant figure out where to control what it aborts on. >>> http://tinypic.com/91i2gw.jpg |
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| 14:03.54 | concept10 | Anyone heard of the 3com audrey? |
| 14:04.04 | greycat | you took a jpeg image of text? |
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| 14:04.19 | stew | concept10: i have one |
| 14:04.22 | liable | apparently.. |
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| 14:04.23 | mfrisch | liable greycat THANKS |
| 14:04.31 | GoOooOGlE | greycat: Couldnt copy it :/ Or atleast i couldnt copy it and bring it to windows to show it u guyz :| |
| 14:04.34 | concept10 | Stew: really? |
| 14:04.40 | stew | concept10: yes |
| 14:04.45 | bodgey | can anyone tell me if kdelibs4 depends on libaspell15 still in the latest sid? |
| 14:04.45 | greycat | oh, he's a *windows* user. that explains it. |
| 14:04.49 | GoOooOGlE | =p |
| 14:04.58 | liable | GoOooOGlE: why not comment that line? |
| 14:05.02 | concept10 | stew, can it run linux or only qnx |
| 14:05.06 | xoz | mfrisch: echo "alias cd ..='..' " >> ~/.bashrc |
| 14:05.08 | stew | concept10: i have it in my kitchen, i use it to control the mp3 jukebox and read recipies while i'm cooking |
| 14:05.09 | GoOooOGlE | liable: Those are logs. |
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| 14:05.13 | stew | concept10: only qnx |
| 14:05.17 | greycat | xoz: what in the fuck? |
| 14:05.44 | xoz | greycat: to save typo when you go up one level |
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| 14:06.04 | stew | xoz: i don't think that does what you think it does |
| 14:06.06 | liable | GoOooOGlE: /etc/ppp/peers/your-isp |
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| 14:06.09 | concept10 | stew, I want to get one to get a cheap touchscreen lcd monitor and use it for another embedded car device. DO you think that is possible? |
| 14:06.14 | xoz | stew: try it |
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| 14:06.44 | stew | concept10: i wouldn't recommend it |
| 14:06.47 | xoz | ah, alias ..='cd ..' |
| 14:06.55 | stew | concept10: its slow and the screen is very low res |
| 14:06.57 | PeterB | xoz: -bash: alias: cd: not found |
| 14:07.01 | GoOooOGlE | liable: I tried that but it didnt have any such thing so I tried adding it myself. But using common sense, "detect carrier = no" didnt fit right. So I couldnt think of any other sentence to put there :S |
| 14:07.10 | xoz | PeterB: alias ..='cd ..' |
| 14:07.13 | concept10 | stew, do you have a picture of your setup? |
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| 14:07.17 | stew | concept10: you would have to have 802.3 in your car |
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| 14:07.31 | stew | since there is no 802.11 for audrey |
| 14:07.45 | stew | concept10: no picture currently |
| 14:07.57 | concept10 | stew, No I want to rip the screen out of the device |
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| 14:08.35 | stew | concept10: what would you drive the screen with? its not like you are going to find that the screen is connected via a vga cable and serial cable |
| 14:08.40 | liable | GoOooOGlE: for a start its 'carrier check = no', secon, the isp is whatever you called it when you did pppconfig, and there is that exact same shit as you showed, in the file.. |
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| 14:09.01 | concept10 | stew, I want to put a embedded linux device or computer in the car for gps, mp3, dvd, etc. I need to get a cheap touchscreen |
| 14:09.06 | xoz | and alias ...='cd ../..' for 2 level |
| 14:09.10 | GoOooOGlE | liable: Ive been searching through pppconfig for the last 30 minutes, nothing. |
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| 14:09.44 | concept10 | stew, I could probably hack together a cable |
| 14:09.49 | stew | concept10: are you going to unsolder the graphics card from the audrey? |
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| 14:10.03 | liable | GoOooOGlE: gah, /etc/ppp/peers/whateveryoucalledit |
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| 14:10.37 | GoOooOGlE | liable: Yeah, but then i put "carrie check = no" there ? :| |
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| 14:10.52 | stew | concept10: in general you cannot just rip out a lcd from an embedded device and hook it to another, otherwise we'd all have nice laptop lcds as cheap desktop displays |
| 14:10.58 | liable | GoOooOGlE: no, just comment out the carrier check line. |
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| 14:11.15 | GoOooOGlE | liable: But there isnt any :S |
| 14:11.30 | liable | GoOooOGlE: /j #flood |
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| 14:12.02 | concept10 | stew, im thinking the audrey has a standard vga display |
| 14:12.02 | bugged | hippl |
| 14:12.13 | GoOooOGlE | there |
| 14:12.14 | stew | concept10: no possible way |
| 14:12.22 | doub | stew: isn't the signal the same? i'm sure it's possible with some bit of black electronic magic |
| 14:12.26 | stew | doub: no |
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| 14:12.41 | stew | doub: the signal is propietary |
| 14:12.46 | deepan | please answer this question regarding http tunneling http://pastebin.com/316235 |
| 14:12.48 | stew | and it doesn't support vga resolutions in the first place |
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| 14:13.22 | doub | stew: oh ok, i thought you were talking about laptop lcds |
| 14:13.28 | stew | doub: same thing |
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| 14:13.38 | stew | doub: they do not use any standard signalling |
| 14:14.07 | liable | GoOooOGlE: one sec, I am having a brain fart... |
| 14:14.07 | doub | stew: yes, but that's just the same as with samba. no explained standard, but still, we can |
| 14:14.09 | wingot | hey guys, where do I find the conf file that will stop debian from loading the gdm every time Debian starts (ie. I want it to boot to a console)? |
| 14:14.12 | GoOooOGlE | :| |
| 14:14.12 | stew | doub: google around for people wishing they could re-use an lcd from a laptop for a desktop / other purposes |
| 14:14.13 | GoOooOGlE | k |
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| 14:14.17 | asg | wingot: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 14:14.17 | priest | does someone know if CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 2 works in Sarge? (2.6 kernel) |
| 14:14.17 | doub | stew: why would that be different with hw? |
| 14:14.33 | wingot | cheers asg |
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| 14:14.52 | stew | doub: i'm not saying its impossible, i'm saying its prohibitively difficult / expensive |
| 14:15.02 | doub | stew: yes, of course |
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| 14:16.43 | PeterB | deepan: #fedora, or just run sshd on port 80 and use ssh port forwarding |
| 14:16.52 | doub | hugh that's harsh |
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| 14:17.31 | concept10 | hmm... I will get a cheap touchscreen lcd somewhere |
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| 14:17.57 | mopatop | hey guys - how can I increase the display resolution of the console? svgatextmode looks a little..... dangerous |
| 14:18.00 | deepan | PeterB: how do i run sshd on port 80.. |
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| 14:18.07 | PissedTrixBunny | you know, I'm just wondering, is there a way to change the color in my Xterm? I don't want Eterm or anything... I just want Xterm.... |
| 14:18.11 | asg | wingot: yes, X will not be removed. If you want to still keep the dms around, just remove the relevant symlink from /etc/rc2.d |
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| 14:18.20 | PeterB | deepan: man sshd_config |
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| 14:18.40 | deepan | thanks PeterB |
| 14:18.45 | doub | especially considering all those proprietary stuff and informations are private only for the sake of some not-fully-grown-up (aka CEO) which has a bigger one than everybody else |
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| 14:19.13 | Tuttle | Hi, I've recompiled the kernel-package and there seem to be disabled DMA for my IDE disks. I use NVidia NForce2 motherboard and I *think* it uses "AMD and nVidia IDE support BLK_DEV_AMD74XX". This module is loaded, but hdparm keeps telling "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted" when setting DMA on. Does anyone know what else I have to enable in the kernel configuration? |
| 14:19.23 | GoOooOGlE | ermmmm, liable ? |
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| 14:19.54 | liable | GoOooOGlE: its in man ppd, I am trying to set it up myself at the mo, cause I dont actually use it... |
| 14:20.04 | GoOooOGlE | k |
| 14:20.09 | GoOooOGlE | take ur time :) |
| 14:20.20 | PeterB | !ur |
| 14:20.20 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
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| 14:21.10 | madclicker | need a network configuration tool like the old "netconf" |
| 14:21.27 | GoOooOGlE | !yo |
| 14:21.27 | dpkg | yao! |
| 14:21.33 | scheff | hi. |
| 14:21.33 | GoOooOGlE | !lol |
| 14:21.33 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a lOler. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
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| 14:22.04 | PeterB | !tell GoOooOGlE about msgdpkg |
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| 14:22.20 | GoOooOGlE | err :p |
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| 14:23.31 | mopatop | anyone know increase the display resolution of the console? svgatextmode looks a little..... dangerous, cheers |
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| 14:24.01 | doub | mopatop: maybe you're lucky and a framebuffer is available for your graphic card |
| 14:24.52 | mopatop | doub, how would I enable that? I have a dell poweredge 1850 which I want to display status information on without having to run X |
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| 14:25.50 | doub | mopatop: i don't know if you can with a framebuffer, depends on what it wants as a resolution. and that didn't tell us what graphic card you have. lspci might know better |
| 14:26.03 | r0ver | hello anyone using gaim witch silc support ? |
| 14:26.16 | doub | r0ver: no |
| 14:26.29 | wade | Q: Has anybody installed 3.1 SPARC on a Marathon U10 motherboard? |
| 14:26.50 | r0ver | why the gaim package doesn't support silc? |
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| 14:27.05 | r0ver | is it licence restrictive or smt ? |
| 14:27.12 | mopatop | doub, I think it's a Radeon 7000 (RV100) |
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| 14:28.04 | liquid_ | okay eaccelarator is awesome |
| 14:28.12 | drac | mopatop: radeonfb, vesafb, vesafb-tng.. pick one, they all work in your card. |
| 14:28.27 | doub | mopatop: i think there's some kind of fb for ati radeons. see the kernel docs (kernel-doc-$(uname -r) package maybe) |
| 14:28.47 | doub | mopatop: as drac says |
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| 14:29.00 | mopatop | thanks - so how do I enable whichever one I choose and configure it? |
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| 14:29.53 | mopatop | fbset? |
| 14:29.59 | GoOooOGlE | screw NetInstall of Debian. Which CD's do i need to get everything set and running on my system? |
| 14:30.05 | doub | mopatop: modprobe <module>, and fbset yes |
| 14:30.14 | mopatop | thanks |
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| 14:30.23 | liable | GoOooOGlE: well, fucked if I can remember, its possible, I have done it before, its in one of the files, and I cant be bothered reading all the docs for you. (even though its quite simple, and fucked if I know why I cant find it...) :P |
| 14:30.25 | Lumination | okay.... bad gcc |
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| 14:30.30 | Lumination | I think |
| 14:30.33 | doub | mopatop: maybe vga=<whatever option>, see the framebuffer howto on tldp.org |
| 14:30.38 | GoOooOGlE | lol |
| 14:30.56 | GoOooOGlE | liable: Just tell me which CD's to get. I'll download the good version of Debian. NetInstall sux0rz :p |
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| 14:31.25 | PerfDave | Lumination: Define "everything" :) |
| 14:31.29 | PerfDave | ARgh |
| 14:31.33 | PeterB | !be netinst barbie |
| 14:31.33 | dpkg | net install is so HARD! |
| 14:31.36 | PerfDave | GoOooOGlE: Define "everything" :) |
| 14:31.43 | Lumination | I'm trying to run 'make menuconfig' on two separate kernel revisions and I am getting all sorts of compile errors of different types... I was upgrading packages with apt, and I believe I was using shady sources because stuff messed up after that. all I am using now is the Debian official sid source. How to I DOWNGRADE all packages to only official debian sid packages? |
| 14:31.53 | liable | GoOooOGlE: net install on dial-up is a bad idea. cd one will do, get two as well if you have a friend with a fast connection... |
| 14:32.14 | PerfDave | Then again, I now have a pair of Sarge DVDs for great goodness. |
| 14:32.26 | GoOooOGlE | PerfDave: X + KDE + Necessary Packages && The rest I can get via apt-get when i really need them. |
| 14:32.46 | liable | cd one has always done me, except having to futz getting wvdial.. |
| 14:32.49 | Ronin | isnt that just the cd1 then? |
| 14:32.53 | liable | yes |
| 14:33.01 | PerfDave | GoOooOGlE: Define "necessary packages" :) |
| 14:33.06 | Lumination | (note: I am using sid because of the ability to get newer software upgrades) |
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| 14:33.20 | GoOooOGlE | PerfDave: Something life wouldnt be complete without :| |
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| 14:33.31 | doub | Lumination: what about the ability to get a totally screwed up system? ;) |
| 14:33.35 | Ronin | GoOooOGlE: that counts out yoru computer then |
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| 14:33.49 | Lumination | doub: that too, but still doesn't fix my situation... lol |
| 14:33.53 | doub | Lumination: that's such a feature, everyone wanted it, microosft first |
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| 14:34.02 | liable | GoOooOGlE: cd will give you gnome/kde, cd2 for good measure, cd3 for even more good measure.... |
| 14:34.18 | deepan | PeterB: running sshd at 80 will help if my computer if i have firewall in remote system .. what if i have firewall in my own system and want to connect to a remote thru ssh |
| 14:34.20 | GoOooOGlE | liable: Define "good measure" of CD2 :p |
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| 14:34.40 | Ronin | good measure = better safe then sorry |
| 14:35.00 | liable | GoOooOGlE: for me, wvdial (for modem) even though I have never had cd2, so I'm not sure if its even on there. |
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| 14:35.15 | GoOooOGlE | liable: WvDial's on CD1 or 2 ? |
| 14:35.19 | PeterB | deepan: ? |
| 14:35.33 | Lumination | I should've stayed with etch or something... but I can't should've done something when it's already done... is there a way to repair? |
| 14:35.35 | liable | GoOooOGlE: plus prolly kernel source blah, you can find out whats on what i believe. |
| 14:35.41 | liable | GoOooOGlE: not on 1 |
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| 14:35.49 | GoOooOGlE | k ill get the 1st 2 CD's |
| 14:35.53 | PeterB | deepan: Oh, I meant running sshd on port 80 on remote, not local. |
| 14:36.02 | deepan | ya |
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| 14:37.07 | deepan | i have a firewall in local .. only 80 outgoing is allowed in local.. remote system has no firewall .. i have to connect from local to remote using ssh.. |
| 14:37.17 | archpollux | hi] |
| 14:37.29 | archpollux | it seems subversion segfaults on export |
| 14:37.38 | stew | deepan: so run an ssh server on port 80 |
| 14:37.41 | PeterB | deepan: Like I said, run sshd on port 80 on remote, and then you can connect to remote with ssh. |
| 14:37.44 | Lumination | does anybody know off hand what variable specifies what version of gcc to use to compile? |
| 14:37.59 | gilead | Lumination: CC |
| 14:38.01 | archpollux | Lumination: CC |
| 14:38.04 | Lumination | ah right thanks |
| 14:38.10 | greycat | or HOSTCC |
| 14:38.14 | Lumination | lemme try that... if that doesn't work then it's obviously not gcc itself |
| 14:38.17 | archpollux | Lumination: specify as gcc-VERSION |
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| 14:38.27 | greycat | or I_AM_A_NEWBIE_MAKEFILE_WRITER_AND_THIS_IS_MY_COMPILER |
| 14:38.43 | Lumination | HOSTCC="gcc-VERSION-3.3" ???? |
| 14:38.45 | greycat | or hey, maybe you should actually read the makefile? |
| 14:38.48 | greycat | wow, there's an idea |
| 14:38.53 | gilead | Lumination: gcc-3.3 |
| 14:39.05 | archpollux | Lumination: the only way to specify version is to specify which executable to run |
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| 14:39.11 | Lumination | lol oh okay |
| 14:39.22 | mopatop | doub, drac, sorted now - thanks for your help! |
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| 14:39.53 | pattern_ | what's a good app to catalog audio CDs? (ideal app would automatically search CDDB for title of CD & song names, and allow a felxible way of searching for CDs/songs) |
| 14:39.55 | deepan | stew: PeterB .. my local has firewall .. it does not forward 22 connections.. can i make my local also use 80 instead of 22? |
| 14:40.08 | stew | deepan: yes, man ssh, man sshd_config |
| 14:40.08 | Lumination | HOSTCC="gcc-3.3" make menuconfig <----- correct syntax? |
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| 14:40.33 | PeterB | deepan: Bah. There's an option for ssh that specifies which port to connect to. |
| 14:41.17 | simonrvn | anyone on the west coast (canada or u.s., doesn't matter) can do me a favour and do a traceroute to 66.11.161.129, and paste me the output in a /query window? thanks |
| 14:41.27 | Lumination | okay still getting the errors.... |
| 14:41.29 | Lumination | this sucks |
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| 14:41.37 | Lumination | tried 3.3 and 4.0 |
| 14:41.54 | deepan | ya.. i saw.. -p for port.. sorry and thanks stew |
| 14:41.55 | Lumination | am I missing something? (besides common sense) |
| 14:41.56 | simonrvn | also, someone in europe or asia would be cool, too |
| 14:42.04 | simonrvn | same request |
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| 14:42.16 | drac | Lumination: MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.3" make menuconfig |
| 14:42.20 | stew | simonrvn: i have one from TX if you want it |
| 14:42.30 | simonrvn | stew: that's fine |
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| 14:42.40 | Lumination | no-go |
| 14:42.40 | madclicker | which package contains kernel header files? |
| 14:42.55 | Lumination | messed up libraries, then? |
| 14:43.01 | greycat | madclicker: kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 14:43.17 | drac | Lumination: libncurses5-dev and build-essential installed ? |
| 14:43.31 | Lumination | checking... |
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| 14:44.20 | noise_ | hey how do I apply a prepatch (2.6.13-rc3)?? |
| 14:44.23 | Lumination | libncurses5 v5.4-9 no build-essential package.... that might be important,eh? |
| 14:44.31 | greycat | noise_: same way you apply any normal patch |
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| 14:44.44 | noise_ | uh... |
| 14:44.50 | drac | Lumination: apt-get installl libncurses5-dev build-essential |
| 14:45.19 | greycat | anyone who's competent to be building prerelease kernels (and configuring them! My god! that's horrendous!) should be competent to read the README file in the source directory, or man patch. |
| 14:45.21 | noise_ | should I patch the 2.6.12.3 kernel? |
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| 14:46.10 | Lumination | downloading. |
| 14:46.34 | Lumination | wow... they really should tell you that there's a package called "build-essential" then you could probably gather that it's important without all this LOL |
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| 14:47.05 | Lumination | brb all of this is making me want a cigarette hehe. |
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| 14:47.08 | cire | what do you use to make a video clip out of jpg images? |
| 14:47.17 | debtrai|work | anyone can tell me howto enable userdir in apache2 ? I've set UserDir enabled and UserDir public_html in /etc/apache2/mod-enabled/userdir.conf but still get Forbidden error |
| 14:47.22 | Gathond | cire: mencoder |
| 14:47.27 | cire | thanks |
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| 14:47.48 | Gathond | altough I've found it to (at PNG's) sometimes producing garbage .. about 9 GB of it |
| 14:47.54 | simonrvn | thanks again to all who helped |
| 14:48.12 | Sup3rFly | anyone monitor their Windows Servers (Event Logs) via Syslog?? |
| 14:48.17 | MrKeuner | hi, it looks like all /dev/usb/lp devices are created accept /dev/usb/lp0 why would that be? |
| 14:48.58 | stew | Sup3rFly: at least pretend this is a debian question by saying "via Syslog on debian" |
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| 14:49.09 | Sup3rFly | i am :) |
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| 14:51.43 | Lumination | okay |
| 14:51.45 | Lumination | new errors |
| 14:51.48 | Lumination | scripts/lxdialog/lxdialog.c:211: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'fprintf' differ in signedness |
| 14:51.58 | stew | thats not an error, its a warning |
| 14:51.59 | Lumination | a whole bunch of those pointer targets in passing argument stuff |
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| 14:52.10 | stew | you should expect a lot of warnings when compiling the kernel, ignore them |
| 14:52.15 | Lumination | okay cool |
| 14:52.22 | PerfDave | !warnings |
| 14:52.22 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software throws warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informational output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 14:52.26 | Lumination | works for me |
| 14:52.53 | Lumination | sweeeeeeeet. thanks alot for your help. |
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| 14:53.44 | Lumination | is there a doc that explains descriptions of menuconfig options? |
| 14:53.56 | stew | there is a help button in menuconfig |
| 14:54.11 | PeterB | Lumination: The built in help texts. |
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| 14:54.40 | Lumination | and a detailed one, at that.... nice. I feel like a newbie with all of this lol. lotta good M$ experience does you. |
| 14:54.46 | Gathond | Lumination: the build in help function yes |
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| 14:56.57 | hid3 | Hello.. maybe anyone cold tell me please, wht is more secure: to give a user all access in 'sudo' or to make 'su' reachable only from 'root' group, add that user to group and give him the password? |
| 14:57.14 | greycat | hid3: if he can become root, AT ALL, it makes no difference. |
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| 14:57.48 | hid3 | I see.. thanks. |
| 14:58.05 | greycat | once he's root, he can do anything you can do, and you can't stop him |
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| 14:58.26 | Gathond | hid3: differs, the sudo thing means user account breached, root beached, the su - thing means the user needs to have the root password, which can also be a bad thing |
| 14:58.38 | archpollux | greycat: i think he means what is more susceptible to more users becoming root than intended |
| 14:58.46 | Gathond | greycat: I think (as I understood it) he is concerned with others becomming root |
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| 14:59.22 | greycat | if he wants to share the root password with his friends, you can't stop him. if he wants to add his friends to your "root group", you can't stop him. |
| 14:59.37 | greycat | if he wants to visudo so that everyone in the system can become root at will, you can't stop him. |
| 15:00.13 | hid3 | why everyone in the system? just a two people.. |
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| 15:00.54 | Gathond | greycat: one could limit that somewhat using sudo, but that wouldof cause not be giving full access |
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| 15:01.21 | Gathond | hid3: his point is that if one person has root access he can do anything, including giving that access to a third party |
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| 15:01.41 | noise_ | I am getting many errors patching 2.6.12.3 with 2.6.13-rc3, why? |
| 15:01.44 | greycat | (either intentionally or not) |
| 15:02.01 | greycat | noise_: why should we care? ask ##linux |
| 15:02.03 | FieldySnuts | because you patch it against 2.6.12 |
| 15:02.06 | PerfDave | hid3: Why does your user require root access? |
| 15:02.08 | hid3 | well.. let's say someone breaks into the system by guessing some user's password.. he does su, but he needs root password which is difficult to guess, BUT if he does sudo -s, he already is uid 0 :\ |
| 15:02.32 | noise_ | FieldySnuts: wich kernel should I use? |
| 15:02.33 | FieldySnuts | only the admin needs root access, nobody else. this isn't windows XP. |
| 15:02.40 | FieldySnuts | !lart noise_ |
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| 15:02.44 | nforbes | hid3: You can make sudo use the root password. |
| 15:02.52 | greycat | noise_: one that doesn't say "release candidate" or "prerelease" or "my initials" would be a good guess. |
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| 15:03.07 | FieldySnuts | i gave him the answer |
| 15:03.15 | nforbes | hid3: Just stick Defaults rootpw at the top of your sudoers |
| 15:03.19 | greycat | FieldySnuts: of course he'd have to *read* it. |
| 15:03.27 | FieldySnuts | but you're right it's not a debian issue |
| 15:03.49 | noise_ | ... thx anyway |
| 15:04.05 | hid3 | nforbes: thanks, didn't knew that.. |
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| 15:07.10 | Gathond | hid3: you can also limit the commands available through sudo |
| 15:07.54 | madclicker | anyone knows what the fudge happened to "kernel-headers-2.6" |
| 15:07.55 | madclicker | ? |
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| 15:08.03 | PissedTrixBunny | is it good to create a DocumentRoot directory for servers in your $HOME? |
| 15:08.18 | PissedTrixBunny | or should I place them a level up.... say /home/? |
| 15:08.18 | wingot | I'm wanting sudo to allow wingot to execute shutdown and restart, but when I use visudoers, I get a syntax error on line 8 ("wingot [TAB] ALL=(root)[TAB]shutdown") |
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| 15:08.36 | hid3 | Gathond: I'll use sudo in order to give permission for some users and I'll add only those commands there which they need in order to work.. |
| 15:08.46 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: It means that you have to have bits of your home directory readable by www-data, which probably isn't good. |
| 15:08.59 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: Why would you use /home/ for websites, instead of for user home directories? |
| 15:09.05 | Gathond | hid3: in that case sudo would be more secure than su by default |
| 15:09.09 | PissedTrixBunny | Pef |
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| 15:09.33 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, that's what I meant? is it safe to put the webdir in my home dir? |
| 15:09.50 | wingot | I'm wanting sudo to allow wingot to execute shutdown and restart, but when I use visudoers, I get a syntax error on line 8 ("wingot [TAB] ALL=(root)[TAB]shutdown"). Any idea what the syntax problem is? |
| 15:09.57 | cahoot | wingot: the manpage for sudoers have working examples |
| 15:10.05 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: And as I said, you'll need to make parts of your home directory readable by www-data. Whather that's "safe" or not is up to you |
| 15:10.13 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, I'm also planning to put all of the servers home dir there.... since I am turning this computer into a secure server which runs samba/ftp/http/vncserver |
| 15:10.14 | PerfDave | hid3: Which commands are you planning on adding? Why do these users require root? |
| 15:10.33 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: You're making no sense. |
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| 15:10.59 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, I am plannin to make apache Document Root in ~/www |
| 15:11.13 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: Why? |
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| 15:11.19 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: What's wrong with /var/www ? |
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| 15:11.38 | greycat | ~ refers to a specific user's home dir (usually *you*) |
| 15:11.47 | greycat | why would apache look in YOUR home dir for its document roto? |
| 15:11.54 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, it's too far down/up... I want my bosses to just see them right away... |
| 15:12.00 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: Or are you talking about mod_userdir? |
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| 15:12.26 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, no I am making ~/www for var/www |
| 15:12.37 | PeterB | PissedTrixBunny: Symlink it? |
| 15:12.41 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: But ~ is context-sensitive |
| 15:12.50 | jojo | Suppose I want to build a module against the default sarge Linux kernel (linux-2.4.27-2), and don't want to get "unresolved symbol" error, which packages should I have installed and what do I need to do? |
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| 15:13.16 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: speak clearly. tell us exactly what you are putting in what file. |
| 15:13.23 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: So when apache runs, ~ will be Apache's home directory, which is /var/www, so Apache will use /var/www/www as a directory. |
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| 15:13.42 | jojo | (Separate module package.. In this case it's from zaptel-source) |
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| 15:14.09 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: Just use /var/www already, and put a symlink in from individual user's home directories if they need something more point-and-drool |
| 15:14.11 | ValheruLord | hi all. I wanna ask about two things that i was'nt able to understand.. What is project SCUd and Vancouver Prospectus in general |
| 15:14.12 | greycat | "Apache" does not have a home directory. |
| 15:14.24 | PerfDave | greycat: Sorry, user www-data's home directory is /var/www |
| 15:14.48 | greycat | PerfDave: ok, that's more like it... now, are we sure that "~" is meaningful in the context of the *.conf files? |
| 15:15.03 | greycat | and if so, are we sure that it expands to ~www-data, and not, say, ~root? |
| 15:15.13 | PerfDave | greycat: Nope, I've never tried to do anything as unusual as what PissedTrixBunny is suggesting ;0 |
| 15:15.17 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, no... ~/www IS the home directory... |
| 15:15.17 | greycat | these are the kinds of questions #apache exists to answer, I imagine. |
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| 15:15.26 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: stop being a fucktard. |
| 15:15.33 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: You don't know what you're talking about. |
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| 15:15.42 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: Just use /var/www already. |
| 15:15.47 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, well... just making things easier for future |
| 15:16.04 | PeterB | If that's called easier... :| |
| 15:16.04 | greycat | if you wanted things to be EASIER, you'd stop being VAGUE and INCOMPREHENSIBLE |
| 15:16.08 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: Or go hassle #apache about it, so we don't have to painfully elucidate ;) |
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| 15:16.31 | stew | ValheruLord: in a nutshell, project SCUD == having a team of people to assist the DPL and be delegated tasks by the gpl. Vancouver == a proposal to split supported arches into 1st tier and second class citizens, only 1st tier would get testing and official support, 2nd tier gets community support |
| 15:16.39 | stew | s/gpl/dpl/ |
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| 15:17.06 | ValheruLord | stew: ok thanks |
| 15:17.10 | snail | PissedTrixBunny: there's a standard for what files go where. FHS. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ |
| 15:17.12 | PissedTrixBunny | PerfDave, well.... it's unsual I give you that... but my question is... whether it's safe or not |
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| 15:17.49 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: It's hard to say if it's "safe" when (a) your plan makes no sense whatsoever and (b) you haven't defined "safe" in any useful context |
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| 15:18.22 | PerfDave | PissedTrixBunny: Though if it'll get you to just use /var/www, I'm happy to tell you that whatever the hell it is that you're suggesting will lead to you getting rooted by a million script kiddies. |
| 15:18.27 | greycat | we don't even know what line he put in what file yet. |
| 15:18.27 | snail | PissedTrixBunny: if you want safe, use selinux "/join #selinux" |
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| 15:19.16 | jethro | !hack PissedTrixBunny |
| 15:19.28 | wingot | lol |
| 15:19.31 | wingot | go dpkg! |
| 15:19.48 | highvoltage | if dpkg has the porn, can we apt-get it? |
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| 15:20.09 | greycat | !porn-get |
| 15:20.09 | dpkg | i heard porn-get is at http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ |
| 15:20.11 | wingot | I believe so, but dpkg probably hid it in a root access only |
| 15:20.19 | migma | !lart PissedTrixBunny |
| 15:20.20 | wingot | lol |
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| 15:20.57 | S4nD3r_ | I need some help.... In Gnome, my taskbar, menubar, disapeared, how recover that? |
| 15:21.00 | pattern_ | how can i convert from flac to mp3 format? |
| 15:21.06 | claus | Linux Kernel 2.6.12 seems neither to be in unstable nor in experimental. not even with new package name 'linux-2.6'. Is there an devel snapshot somewhere. I want to help testing. |
| 15:21.13 | migma | i guess dpkg can safely delete him now, as it already got all the good stuff :P |
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| 15:21.37 | PerfDave | pattern_: /msg dpkg lame - MP3 encoders aren't in Debian due to patent restrictions. |
| 15:21.42 | jeffro | hey |
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| 15:21.47 | jeffro | got a queston again |
| 15:21.49 | PerfDave | pattern_: You probably want to use Ogg Vorbis though, since MP3 decoders will soon be removed as well. |
| 15:22.01 | S4nD3r_ | helooow |
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| 15:22.13 | jeffro | i want to make a shortcut |
| 15:22.18 | jojo | claus, I think there is a #debian-kernel if I'm not misstaken |
| 15:22.30 | migma | jeffro: man ln? |
| 15:22.32 | pattern_ | thanks, perfdave |
| 15:22.35 | jeffro | i want a map in my home directory that refers to /windows/blablabla |
| 15:22.44 | umbop | hmm if i've just plugged a usb mouse into my laptop, how can i make it configure it now on the fly? would i need to run xf86config again? |
| 15:22.44 | claus | jojo: thanks, i'll ask there |
| 15:23.10 | PerfDave | jeffro: You don't want a "shortcut", that's a Windows ".lnk" file which doesn't do very much under Linux. You want a link - man ln |
| 15:23.23 | PerfDave | umbop: Are you running hotplug? |
| 15:23.25 | liquid_ | this is starting to work on my nurves: 1324 www-data 16 0 0 0 0 Z 0.3 0.0 0:00.01 apache2 <defunct> |
| 15:23.25 | jeffro | I mean |
| 15:23.31 | jeffro | when i start vlc |
| 15:23.35 | liquid_ | this is starting to work on my nurves: 1324 www-data 16 0 0 0 0 Z 0.3 0.0 0:00.01 apache2 <defunct> <-- nothing found in error_log |
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| 15:23.37 | PerfDave | umbop: You shouldn't be running xf86config - /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 15:23.38 | liquid_ | woops |
| 15:23.40 | greycat | !pal apache2 |
| 15:23.41 | Gathond | liquid_: it that a permanent situation? |
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| 15:23.49 | jeffro | i want to goto my home directory and enter a part of my windows partition |
| 15:23.52 | liquid_ | Gathond no, random |
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| 15:23.57 | umbop | i had hotplug yes, but i just installed usbmgr etc and i think it removed it |
| 15:24.08 | Gathond | liquid_: apache might have defunct processes at times during its starting/stopping children |
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| 15:24.22 | migma | jeffro: ditto |
| 15:24.22 | liquid_ | Gathond please explain in more details |
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| 15:24.42 | Gathond | liquid_: a defunct process it one that is closed but awaits its parent to fetch its exit code |
| 15:24.44 | umbop | i haven't configured xf86config, stupid of me to suggest considering it's usb |
| 15:24.45 | liquid_ | as in meaning: the defunct occured during the stop/start |
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| 15:24.50 | PerfDave | jeffro: I have a "data" symlink in my home directory, so ~/data/ works just like /mnt/data/foo/bar/ |
| 15:24.52 | umbop | why would i need to md5sum anything? |
| 15:25.01 | liquid_ | Gathond but is it normal? |
| 15:25.01 | umbop | i am wanting to get my usb mouse working |
| 15:25.05 | jeffro | ok |
| 15:25.11 | jeffro | hoew to create them easy? |
| 15:25.14 | jojo | ln -s |
| 15:25.18 | PerfDave | jeffro: "man ln" already! |
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| 15:25.19 | Gathond | liquid_: so while apache closes down children after they have done their job it will be defunt until the parent gets around to fetch its exit status code |
| 15:25.23 | migma | umbop: /msg dpkg x md5sum |
| 15:25.24 | stew | umbop: /msg dpkg xmd5 ; /msg dpkg drxx |
| 15:25.25 | jeffro | i am reading it |
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| 15:25.34 | jeffro | now im trying to make some sense of it |
| 15:25.38 | migma | omg |
| 15:25.41 | PerfDave | umbop: If you use xf86config, it will break Debian's X configuration database. Read the factoid to find out (a) if you've done this and (b) how to fix it. |
| 15:25.43 | migma | rtfm ffs |
| 15:25.43 | liquid_ | aha so Gathond: there is no need to worry about anything? |
| 15:25.53 | Gathond | liquid_: as long as they are not permanently hanging around there yes, having them for a second or some such is normal |
| 15:25.56 | umbop | no i haven't done that |
| 15:26.10 | PerfDave | umbop: Double-check. |
| 15:26.13 | umbop | i was asking if i SHOULD do that |
| 15:26.14 | greycat | PerfDave: or (c) he doesn't care and he can just use the xf86config output |
| 15:26.25 | greycat | umbop: do whatever you like. |
| 15:26.25 | Gathond | liquid_: if the same defunt process shows up for a long time it probably indicates a bug in the program, but otherwise it is normal |
| 15:26.53 | PerfDave | umbop: It's not a good idea unless you know about how debconf interacts with files. |
| 15:27.04 | migma | !drxx umbop |
| 15:27.05 | dpkg | umbop: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) |
| 15:27.08 | liquid_ | Gathond I doubt the bug but I will investigate now that I know what I should be looking for |
| 15:27.11 | madclicker | where would i find in the pool directory the kernel files? |
| 15:27.16 | liquid_ | Gathond thanks for the very detailed explaination |
| 15:27.28 | wingot | anyone able to 1)explain how to makefile a tar.gz, or 2)point me to a tutorial/HOWTO that explains same |
| 15:27.43 | PerfDave | umbop: Anyway, reconfiguring X isn't necessarily what you want to do. |
| 15:27.46 | umbop | presumably xf86config won't configure my usb mouse, it would be the usbd that picks it up? |
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| 15:28.01 | PerfDave | Oh, fuck it, I give up. |
| 15:28.01 | stew | madclicker: in the k directory |
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| 15:28.11 | umbop | oh dear |
| 15:28.13 | greycat | umbop: /msg dpkg usbmouse |
| 15:28.16 | umbop | thanks |
| 15:28.18 | possie | anyone know a good ticket system for a support help desk? |
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| 15:28.42 | xerophyte | when i do iptables -nL dynamic its show all the ips address which is blocked but it does give the headers too .. is there anyway i can tell the iptables not to display the headers |
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| 15:30.04 | umbop | hmm, ok, if i have a laptop and i am wanting to use the nipple on the laptop sometimes, and a usb mouse when i am at home or work, am i going to have to switch between xf86config's for each one each time? |
| 15:30.24 | umbop | as reading the dpkg output, i need to config x |
| 15:30.40 | stew | umbop: no, just use /dev/input/mice |
| 15:30.53 | umbop | i used /dev/input/mice last time and it didn't like it |
| 15:30.56 | umbop | so i used /dev/psaux |
| 15:31.08 | stew | umbop: 2.6 kernel? /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
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| 15:31.10 | umbop | and that seem to work fine on the laptop |
| 15:31.21 | umbop | 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 15:31.58 | madclicker | anyone knows what the fudge happened to "kernel-headers-2.6"? |
| 15:32.06 | jeffro | i've RTFM now something that isnt in the manual |
| 15:32.08 | Yaksman | can anyone tell me the command to dump out a list of packages that I can use to install them on another machine (say for an automated install) |
| 15:32.09 | stew | !devinputmice |
| 15:32.09 | dpkg | always ALWAYS pick /dev/input/mice, regardless. no really. Yes, even on a 2.4 kernel, even with PS/2. The rest should take care of itself. Sometimes you need to `modprobe mousedev`. It doesn't always take care of itself. ;-) |
| 15:32.21 | Yaksman | the packages currently installed, that it |
| 15:32.22 | Yaksman | is |
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| 15:32.40 | xoz | umbop: make your nipple as the core pointer and so that even if you remove your usbmouse, it will have no problem. both should be configured properly in your XF86Config-4 |
| 15:32.53 | madclicker | am looking for kernel header files for a 2.6 kernel. Can you help a brother? |
| 15:33.14 | migma | jeffro: perhaps actually trying to comprehend what it says would help |
| 15:33.20 | migma | :-) |
| 15:33.25 | blenda | when creating a new filesystem with mkfs.ext3, 5% of all the blocks are reserved for the super user. are there any dangers by giving less space to the super user? |
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| 15:33.43 | jeffro | nvm |
| 15:33.45 | jeffro | i got it |
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| 15:33.55 | umbop | hmm as the core pointer? you mean implement both mice in the xf86config ? |
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| 15:34.04 | madclicker | am looking for kernel header files for a 2.6 kernel. Can you help a brother? |
| 15:34.14 | xoz | umbop: yep |
| 15:34.24 | jojo | madclicker, apt-cache search kernel-headers-2.6 |
| 15:34.32 | umbop | thanks xoz |
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| 15:34.42 | maxsim | hi, I try to configure vpopmail and qmail, but when I try to get my mail, I've got this message : /usr/sbin/vchkpw: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory |
| 15:35.03 | maxsim | I use vpopmail from dotdeb.org in stable |
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| 15:35.13 | greycat | maxsim: raise your ulimit or softlimit in the run/init.d script |
| 15:35.18 | greycat | whichever. |
| 15:35.26 | Downix | morning everyone |
| 15:35.26 | bruno_ | I have got a bootable CD, and a box which can only boot on usb key. Any idea how to boot from the usb key with the ISO image of the CD (it contains software enabling to configure my server) ? The USB key is huge (1Go). |
| 15:35.43 | maxsim | greycat I try |
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| 15:36.17 | Downix | does anyone know where I can go to find toshiba laptop warning beeps? |
| 15:36.20 | xoz | umbop: and you can add the option AllowMouseOpenFail in the ServerFlags so that X will not bomb even if you have no mouse. |
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| 15:36.30 | PeterB | Downix: Google. |
| 15:36.37 | umbop | ahh that's a cool feature |
| 15:37.15 | madclicker | jojo: thank you very much |
| 15:37.15 | Downix | tried google |
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| 15:37.47 | maxsim | greycat I edit /etc/init.d/vpopmail and I find the line ulimit -v 3072 is this line ? |
| 15:37.59 | wingot | I've got the blender i386 folder extracted, and run the makefile (using make), but how do I actually run Blender now? |
| 15:38.15 | Downix | all I got on goggle was a ton of people asking about what the warning beeps mean |
| 15:38.19 | umbop | hmm in the protocol would i have ImPS/2? |
| 15:38.40 | drac | umbop: ExplorerPS/2, and if it doesn't work ImPS/2. |
| 15:38.49 | S4nD3r_ | So by the way, how many linux distribution there are in the world now? About 1k !? |
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| 15:39.00 | petemc | S4nD3r_: distrowatch.com |
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| 15:39.02 | umbop | and one final qustion, is there a quick way to reload X ? |
| 15:39.12 | xoz | umbop: most likely if you have a usb wheel mouse |
| 15:39.15 | greycat | you can't "reload" a running X server |
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| 15:39.26 | greycat | it probes for stuff at initialization time |
| 15:39.26 | drac | umbop: ctrl-alt-backspace (or /etc/init.d/xdm restart (or gdm or kdm)) |
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| 15:39.42 | drac | restart, not reload d'oh :) |
| 15:39.58 | umbop | ok let me check |
| 15:40.05 | PissedTrixBunny | I have two SATA drive..... I mounted the second to a directory which I want to change..... what's the name of the second drive? /dev/hda2? how do I go about chaging the mount point... thanks |
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| 15:40.34 | xerophyte | is there anyway i can get ip address and hostname with one signle iptables command like iptables -L chain |
| 15:40.38 | bassembg | hi room |
| 15:40.56 | bassembg | still with the same problem of yesterday |
| 15:40.57 | madclicker | is there a network configuration tool in debian? |
| 15:41.01 | madclicker | like netconf? |
| 15:41.13 | bassembg | how to make sh files run on my linux |
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| 15:41.29 | migma | bassembg: sh filename |
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| 15:41.42 | PissedTrixBunny | I have two SATA drive..... I mounted the second to a directory which I want to change..... what's the name of the second drive? /dev/hda2? how do I go about chaging the mount point... thanks |
| 15:41.49 | migma | !repeat |
| 15:41.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, repeat is if nobody answers your question, don't just repeat it. Spamming the channel and getting ignored/banned/silenced isn't going to get a faster answer; spamming is a function of time. More likely, nobody knows the answer (/msg dpkg ask), or you need to provide more information (/msg apt sicco), or ask about "smart questions", or for more information, ask me about <repeat> |
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| 15:42.40 | jeffro | hey, got another problem |
| 15:42.41 | PissedTrixBunny | madclicker, ifconfig? ifupdown... ifplugd? |
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| 15:42.49 | PissedTrixBunny | jeffro, don't we all. |
| 15:42.51 | jeffro | i recently downloaded some midi's but they wont work |
| 15:43.03 | PissedTrixBunny | xmms, not working? |
| 15:43.07 | Rakkis | hello.. is there anything special I should worry about when migrating my debian computer from x86 to amd64? |
| 15:43.10 | maxsim | greycat that work fine thanks a lot |
| 15:43.15 | jeffro | no xmms cant start them |
| 15:43.16 | qwertz__ | Hi! Is there a tool that logs which processes cause which cpu load? |
| 15:43.19 | Rakkis | debian package/software -wise that is |
| 15:43.22 | bassembg | migma it doesn't work |
| 15:43.25 | bruno_ | any idea how to create a bootable usb key from a iso cd bootable image ? |
| 15:43.32 | jeffro | no combaitle |
| 15:43.34 | migma | bassembg: ./filename |
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| 15:43.35 | jeffro | but |
| 15:43.42 | jeffro | it opens them with kmid |
| 15:43.49 | jeffro | and then i get a error |
| 15:43.55 | cahoot | jeffro: you *have* set up the system for handling midi? |
| 15:43.55 | Ronin | bruno_: damnsmalllinux i believe does that |
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| 15:43.59 | PissedTrixBunny | maybe midi is corrupted |
| 15:44.03 | jeffro | how to do that |
| 15:44.06 | jeffro | it isnt corrupt |
| 15:44.12 | PissedTrixBunny | aumix? |
| 15:44.13 | jeffro | i dled it with windows xp |
| 15:44.16 | jeffro | and it worked |
| 15:44.18 | PissedTrixBunny | oh.. |
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| 15:44.44 | PissedTrixBunny | what's the name of the second hard drive on your comp? /dev/hda2? or /dev/hdb? |
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| 15:45.00 | jeffro | error message: cant open /dev/sequencer. Problably there's another program using it |
| 15:45.02 | bruno_ | Ronin, in what way ? |
| 15:45.08 | Phated | PissedTrixBunny: The latter. |
| 15:45.19 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: hda2 is a partition |
| 15:45.31 | jeffro | but then when i use the command: lsof /dev/sequencer it said that there's no such fule |
| 15:45.34 | jeffro | file |
| 15:45.36 | Downix | I hate laptops |
| 15:45.38 | jan_ | Great, I upgraded to 2.6.11-1 (package), and init complains it cannot find /dev/console 2.4.27 works fine |
| 15:45.42 | bassembg | migma , i try this too |
| 15:45.57 | Downix | one of my toshibas has Debian installed, but it refuses to connect to the network |
| 15:46.02 | Ronin | bruno_: maybe i misunderstood, you want a linux distro on a usb key? |
| 15:46.06 | migma | bassembg: err, you actually have to replace filename with the *actual* name of your script :-) |
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| 15:46.28 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I mounted the second hard drive and now it has a mount point... but I want to change this mount point.... how do I do this... I thought I would use mount /dev/hdb /mount/point/here.... but didn't work... |
| 15:46.34 | TwistedEmotions | Laptops: ...more problems, less keyboard space.. |
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| 15:46.46 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: man fstab, man mount |
| 15:46.47 | Downix | Twisted: If I didn't need the mobility.... |
| 15:46.53 | saberworks | is there a way to list all crons on the entire system with one command? I know how to do crontab -u [user] -l but I want to list crontabs from all users |
| 15:46.54 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: man cfdisk |
| 15:46.54 | wingot | when I try to run blender, I get the error message error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3:cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. |
| 15:46.57 | jeffro | pissedtrixbunny: fire umount |
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| 15:47.00 | Downix | noone's made a solid Linux laptop |
| 15:47.01 | wingot | Any idea how to fix it? |
| 15:47.01 | greycat | you should create partitions on the hard disk. |
| 15:47.02 | jeffro | pissedtrixbunny: fire umountfirst |
| 15:47.17 | TwistedEmotions | Downix: I feel you man... same problems here. |
| 15:47.21 | greycat | wingot: you typed "apt-get install blender" and it did not work> |
| 15:47.34 | bruno_ | Ronin, no I have a bootable CD (with some specific software) and want to be able to copy it on an usb key in order to boot a computer with this image. My computer is only able to boot from usb key. |
| 15:47.35 | jeffro | but my problem |
| 15:47.36 | greycat | or you compiled it on one debian system and then installed it on another? |
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| 15:47.41 | jeffro | I cant play midi's |
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| 15:47.53 | greycat | or, god forbid, you downloaded someone's PREBUILT BINARY version of it from god knows where and expected that to work? |
| 15:47.54 | jeffro | and /dev/sequencer doesnt exist |
| 15:47.59 | Ronin | bruno_: understood, like i said denser then normal today |
| 15:48.03 | bassembg | migma . i'm not so silly |
| 15:48.05 | PissedTrixBunny | how come my second drive is mounted as /dev/sdb1? |
| 15:48.08 | wingot | greycat: I had a tar.gz from "The Complete Linux Handbook", and I used the makefile |
| 15:48.20 | bassembg | i did that :) |
| 15:48.21 | migma | bassembg: bash filename |
| 15:48.22 | cahoot | jeffro: you should use google |
| 15:48.23 | wingot | I checked it was a i386, but wasn't sure about what else I would have to do |
| 15:48.27 | jeffro | ok |
| 15:48.34 | PissedTrixBunny | actually... all my drives are sda/sdb... |
| 15:48.35 | jeffro | il try that AGAIN. |
| 15:48.50 | bassembg | it must start running smoethly |
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| 15:49.06 | cahoot | jeffro: what soundcard? |
| 15:49.10 | bassembg | but it is not running , i think i need some updats |
| 15:49.13 | greycat | !find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 sid |
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| 15:49.28 | TwistedEmotions | What is the newest kernel version released under unstable? |
| 15:49.29 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' returned no results. |
| 15:49.45 | jojo | jeffro, Use timidity. It's a software midi synth/player |
| 15:49.58 | PissedTrixBunny | what's the difference between hda and sda? |
| 15:49.59 | greycat | !find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 woody |
| 15:50.08 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: hda is IDEish, sda is SCSIish |
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| 15:50.19 | PissedTrixBunny | thanks |
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| 15:50.29 | greycat | also hda means "first controller, first disk on it" and sda just means "the first disk on the whole system, tee hee" |
| 15:50.44 | wingot | greycat: is it looking for a different linuxes dependencies? If so, I can just download the .deb and use apt-get |
| 15:50.48 | greycat | and you get to guess how it counts them. |
| 15:51.13 | possie | why is it that when i do something like dpkg -l | grep some-long-package-name that it get's trimmed? isn't there away to see the full name even if i grep for the name? |
| 15:51.19 | greycat | wingot: I don't know what the fuck it's looking for since you still haven't told us whether you COMPILED this yourself, or whether your tar.gz and your makefile had prebuilt binary components in it. |
| 15:51.24 | greycat | arc1:~$ ls /usr/lib/libstdc++* |
| 15:51.25 | greycat | /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.7 |
| 15:51.39 | greycat | whatever fucking libstdc++ that thing is looking for, it's not a normal part of sarge or sid. |
| 15:51.39 | wingot | greycat, I did not compile it myself no |
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| 15:51.51 | greycat | wingot: then that is where you screwed up. |
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| 15:51.58 | wingot | ok, thank you |
| 15:52.23 | m4lu8 | busybox + buildroot + 10 dell servers + pxelinux == Awwww yeeeh. |
| 15:52.26 | greycat | and you can thank C++ for being such a friendly language, with such a nice stable ABI. |
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| 15:52.59 | greycat | anyone who's putting prebuilt binary C++ objects on CD-ROMs and shipping them out should be building them STATICALLY LINKED. |
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| 15:53.09 | action09_ | hi all , is there a terminal with tabs under Sarge please ? (Eterm and xterm can't do it) but maybe i'm wrong :) |
| 15:53.15 | greycat | the gnu C++ ABI changes completely every couple years |
| 15:53.21 | greycat | so nothing remains compatible |
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| 15:53.41 | rbochan | action09_: konsole and or multi-gnome-terminal will do that |
| 15:53.41 | xoz | new g++ is stricter and has better way to track warnings |
| 15:53.50 | wingot | ok |
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| 15:54.31 | lestest | hi there ... on a fresh stable installation kernel stucks on usb 2-3: control timeout on ep0out any clue? |
| 15:54.36 | spiderworm | hi anyone here know why when i want to install apache-ssl or mod-ssl on this older debian box running woody, it wants to uninstall perlmagick? |
| 15:55.11 | greycat | hey dpkg! Where's that result I asked for! |
| 15:55.22 | greycat | !faq possie |
| 15:55.23 | dpkg | possie: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 15:55.28 | greycat | COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 15:55.30 | TwistedEmotions | How do you get lilo to pick up on new kernel headers again? |
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| 15:55.36 | TwistedEmotions | I mean a new kernel install |
| 15:55.40 | TwistedEmotions | I forget the command.. |
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| 15:56.05 | greycat | that would be "lilo". |
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| 15:56.22 | gba | If I set the DEB_HOST_* variables on the command line where I call dpkg-buildpackage will the rules script use "my" variables setiings? |
| 15:56.39 | TwistedEmotions | hahahhaha... I wasnt running as root ;P |
| 15:57.41 | TwistedEmotions | Just installed kernel... sudo apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.11-9-em64t-p4-smp |
| 15:57.50 | TwistedEmotions | and lilo command doesnt pick up on it.. |
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| 15:57.57 | TwistedEmotions | anyone wana take a guess why? |
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| 15:58.26 | dema_fals | hai' |
| 15:58.27 | gba | I want to set the DEB_HOST_* variables so I can compile for my specific processor. How can I do that? |
| 15:58.31 | TwistedEmotions | forget it... |
| 15:58.31 | dema_fals | hiii' |
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| 15:58.34 | TwistedEmotions | got class |
| 15:58.37 | TwistedEmotions | later guys |
| 15:58.37 | rbochan | TwistedEmotions: already customized lilo.conf? |
| 15:58.38 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 15:58.49 | dema_fals | ;)) |
| 15:58.54 | spiderworm | hello? anyone know about the perlmagick thing? |
| 15:59.00 | TwistedEmotions | rbochan: not really... added a windows HD... but that's it... gotta go .. late ;)\ |
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| 15:59.29 | wingot | what is a good way to test if my internet connection is up and running under linux? |
| 15:59.49 | rbochan | google.com |
| 15:59.52 | S4nD3r_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.09 | wingot | lol, I was thinking of using google.com, but I was more referring to which command? |
| 16:00.23 | rbochan | firefix http://www.google.com |
| 16:00.30 | rbochan | *firefox |
| 16:00.36 | greycat | wingot: ping |
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| 16:00.50 | greycat | or wget, netcat, etc. |
| 16:00.57 | sgeigerbot | Does someone speak IMAPv4 well enough to explain how a message is deleted? I have the msg ID already. |
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| 16:01.05 | sgeigerbot | ...and I've logged in... |
| 16:01.10 | migma | wingot: ifconfig ? |
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| 16:01.18 | eka | hi all |
| 16:01.28 | eka | how to use the multi-volume option in tar?? |
| 16:01.39 | wingot | "ping: unknown host http://www.google.com" means no connection? |
| 16:01.47 | sgeigerbot | ...and i'm reading the RFC...but I don't see how delete and expurge pertain to deleting a single message. |
| 16:01.49 | jeffro | what is salsa sequencer? |
| 16:01.54 | wingot | and more importantly, how do I stop a running process/program? |
| 16:02.11 | jeffro | kill processid |
| 16:02.13 | migma | wingot: man kill |
| 16:02.17 | jeffro | if if wont work |
| 16:02.23 | jeffro | you use kill -9 pid |
| 16:02.23 | migma | wingot: and man ps |
| 16:02.24 | gba | eka: _m option |
| 16:02.33 | gba | s/_m/-M/ |
| 16:02.42 | eka | gba: yes buy how to specify lenght of volume? |
| 16:03.43 | wingot | thanks :) |
| 16:03.51 | gba | -L , --tape-length=NUM |
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| 16:04.00 | wingot | I didn't put a end condition on my ping localhost, so it just kept going and going :) |
| 16:04.17 | gba | NUM is the number of Bytes |
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| 16:04.46 | ^rob^ | hi |
| 16:04.56 | eka | gba: that goes with the -M option? |
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| 16:04.58 | migma | wingot: ^C |
| 16:04.59 | ma3x | hi guys |
| 16:05.07 | ^rob^ | does anyone managed to chroot with ftpd ? |
| 16:05.09 | ma3x | yesterday i screwed my ntfs partition |
| 16:05.12 | gba | eka: Try it out. I cannot remember |
| 16:05.14 | ma3x | any idea how to restore it? |
| 16:05.16 | migma | wingot: aka ctrl+c |
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| 16:05.35 | rbochan | ma3x: this is #debian, not #winders AND you were warned |
| 16:05.41 | gba | eka: The last time I tar on floppies was 7 years ago on Sun workstations |
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| 16:05.45 | wingot | ohh ok, I tried ctrl-break earlier, it wasn't doing anything, thanks :) |
| 16:05.49 | eranj | hey guys |
| 16:05.51 | migma | !specific |
| 16:05.51 | dpkg | specific is, like, specifics is probably just saying 'it doesn't work' or 'what is wrong' will get you nowhere. be specific. |
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| 16:06.14 | ma3x | rbochan: okay, so next time i wanna know |
| 16:06.24 | ma3x | what kind of partitions are both linux/windows writable? |
| 16:06.32 | eranj | Do you know a nice mp3 edit program? |
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| 16:06.37 | wingot | ma3x: fat partitions |
| 16:06.37 | jan_ | Hi, i have some problems with X.org |
| 16:06.42 | migma | ma3x: vfat |
| 16:06.44 | jan_ | (EE) I810(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. |
| 16:06.58 | ma3x | but fat partitions cannot contain files larger than 2 GB, right? |
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| 16:07.09 | mith | ma3x: right |
| 16:07.12 | wingot | fat16 can't, but I believe fat32 can |
| 16:07.18 | mith | wingot: it cannot |
| 16:07.22 | wingot | ok |
| 16:07.25 | migma | no it can't |
| 16:07.53 | greycat | jan_: look for more clues in the log file. |
| 16:08.01 | greycat | jan_: e.g. something like AGP GART failures... |
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| 16:08.09 | wingot | ok, I have my modem (NAT) connected to my linux machine view CAT5 cable (Ethernet), what do I have to do to connect to the world? |
| 16:08.20 | xoz | ma3x: you can have bigger than 2GB using vfat.. use parted to create the vfat fs |
| 16:08.24 | greycat | anyway, that's not really a "problem". just a lack of a feature you seem to want. |
| 16:08.32 | wingot | I've tried finding a HOWTO, but failed |
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| 16:08.47 | migma | wingot: you mean "NIC" |
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| 16:09.11 | lestest | hi there ... is there a way to reneter the first boot configuration (i need to select packages to install easly) |
| 16:09.19 | wingot | pardon migma? |
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| 16:09.29 | rbochan | lestest: you mean base-config ? |
| 16:09.32 | wingot | My modem has both a CAT5 output port, and a USB port |
| 16:09.33 | ^rob^ | nobody use ftpd here? |
| 16:09.34 | fatal__ | wingot: try setting your NIC to use dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces and use ifup ... see man interfaces and man ifup |
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| 16:10.01 | fatal__ | wingot: gnome also has some network configuration gui iirc.... |
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| 16:10.05 | herz | FUCK ALL OF YOU |
| 16:10.07 | herz | SHUT UP BITCH |
| 16:10.09 | herz | BAN ME |
| 16:10.11 | herz | HAHAHAHHJAA |
| 16:10.14 | lestest | rbochan: the dialog wich tells you wich kind of installation you want (Workstation, Web Server, ... |
| 16:10.19 | herz | HAHAHAHHJAA |
| 16:10.20 | herz | BAN ME |
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| 16:10.40 | asg | !ops herz is asking for it |
| 16:10.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: herz is asking for it |
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| 16:10.48 | Phated | Heh. |
| 16:10.52 | herz | :D |
| 16:10.52 | migma | :) |
| 16:10.54 | herz | HAHAHAHA |
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| 16:11.12 | lestest | rbochan: right |
| 16:11.13 | lestest | :) |
| 16:11.23 | GoOooOGlE | how big is the package: kde-base? |
| 16:11.27 | rbochan | lestest: it's abeen about 3 years since I actually saw that screen, but I believe it used to be part of base-config, or possibly rtasksel |
| 16:11.30 | rbochan | er.. tasksel |
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| 16:11.33 | greycat | GoOooOGlE: ask apt-cache |
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| 16:11.45 | lestest | rbochan: base-config |
| 16:11.45 | asg | that's what they call 'suicide by op' |
| 16:11.45 | lestest | :) |
| 16:11.47 | lestest | thankz |
| 16:11.55 | rbochan | good luck |
| 16:11.57 | fosza | Is it possible to add files to an iso image? if so, how? |
| 16:12.05 | rbochan | tasksel is pretty awful though, imo |
| 16:12.08 | S4nD3r_ | The best choice is CrossOver Office, that really works Flash Studio... |
| 16:12.15 | MrKeuner | is debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso enough for a sarge with gnome-desktop-environment? |
| 16:12.18 | GoOooOGlE | greycat: No connection yet, im downloading Debian CD 1, 640mb, 15.71mb done at 4 kbps =p |
| 16:12.27 | Rawplayer | sure MrKeuner |
| 16:12.41 | MrKeuner | Rawplayer/ thanks |
| 16:13.16 | greycat | then ask packages.debian.org |
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| 16:13.25 | greycat | or ask dpkg, in /msg |
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| 16:14.24 | Slippy | omg - quite alot of people in here ;) |
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| 16:15.34 | Ungy | is there a screen capture command in kde? |
| 16:15.42 | fosza | Is it possible to add files to an iso image? if so, how? |
| 16:15.44 | rbochan | Ungy: ksnapshot |
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| 16:16.10 | cmihai | Any LyX users around? If so, what's wrong with LyX's paste? It simply won't paste (even as external lines/paragraphs), but paste the stuff I just deleted or selected in LyX, or even paste stuff over and over again. But NEVER does it paste what I want it to paste (like what's supposed to be in the clipboard), what I just copied! |
| 16:16.18 | rbochan | fosza: I don't know of a way directly, but you can mount the iso, copy it elsewhere, add whatever, then create a new iso |
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| 16:16.54 | cooly | hi. how can i create shared library libc-client.so from imap-2004e source. there is libc-client in debian packets but it is very old (2002). i would like to compule new one (2004) |
| 16:16.57 | eranj | GNUSound doesn't support mp3? |
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| 16:17.26 | fosza | rbochan, good point but my iso is a bootdisk, if I directly copy it to a folder i will lose those bootdisk data. |
| 16:17.48 | rbochan | fosza: I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't imagine so |
| 16:17.57 | Ungy | rbochan how do I access it? |
| 16:18.03 | rbochan | Ungy: you install it |
| 16:18.09 | Ungy | it is installed |
| 16:18.27 | rbochan | then it should be in the menu, or you can call it from a term |
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| 16:18.54 | jan_ | greycat: http://www.smets.cx/Xorg.0.log thats my log |
| 16:18.54 | fosza | rbochan, I will give it a try thx =), so mounting the image and copy to a folder and repackge the image huh? |
| 16:19.17 | rbochan | fosza: that's the way I've done it, but like I said, I don't know about the bootable stuffs |
| 16:19.29 | jan_ | greycat: it looks like the screen is just blank, and it doesn't seem to respond locally, only thru ssh orso |
| 16:19.32 | fosza | thx anyway |
| 16:19.40 | rbochan | good luck, let me know |
| 16:19.42 | greycat | don't you just love it when you tell them to READ their logs and instead of doing that, they post it so YOU can read it instead of them? |
| 16:20.09 | rbochan | greycat: I live for it ;) |
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| 16:20.12 | cahoot | cmihai: seems to work as expected here - 1.3.4 |
| 16:21.08 | cmihai | cahoot: well, not here. Any text I select (let's say firefox) pastes fine in Kate. Won't paste in LyX. Instead, it pastes the lines I just deleted or something else. It worked a few times, now it's broke. |
| 16:21.09 | greycat | huh? how come there's no word AGP in that entire log file *anywhere*? |
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| 16:21.37 | cmihai | Now I'm trying to write a book (some 600 pages) in LyX. If that keeps up, I'll go nuts. |
| 16:21.57 | rbochan | cmihai: then you'll be just like us! <thunder clap> |
| 16:22.11 | cahoot | cmihai: works even from ff here |
| 16:22.18 | jan_ | greycat: nvm, i think i got the problem, i need a 2.6.12 kernel, 2.6.11 is too old |
| 16:22.21 | Phated | I believe the SFX you were looking for was <ominous laugh>. |
| 16:22.22 | action09_ | rbochan ah ok thanks i knew multi-gnome-terminal great :) |
| 16:22.31 | rbochan | right on |
| 16:22.36 | cmihai | I've tried everything: C+c in firefox/C+v, Shift+insert, edit - paste, edit - paste external selection/as lines/as paragraphs.etc |
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| 16:22.44 | rbochan | Phated: mwahahhahaa |
| 16:22.52 | action09_ | another thing i d/l yesterday the last kernel from kernel.org (vanilla) and ther's no more realtek8139 module in it . wierd ! :( |
| 16:22.55 | action09_ | weird |
| 16:22.56 | Phated | I'm not the one trying to use lyx. |
| 16:23.05 | greycat | action09_: there was never a module named realtek8139 |
| 16:23.12 | cahoot | cmihai: maybe of no significance - I use the qt version |
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| 16:23.13 | rbochan | action09_: rtl8138 or rtl8139too? |
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| 16:23.22 | greycat | rbochan: nope, nope. |
| 16:23.22 | rbochan | *8139 |
| 16:23.24 | action09_ | greycat yes sorry rtl8139too |
| 16:23.26 | greycat | keep trying folks! |
| 16:23.27 | cmihai | cahoot: so do i. |
| 16:23.29 | greycat | action09_: nope. |
| 16:23.39 | jan_ | greycat: any knowledge of 2.6.12 debian kernels |
| 16:23.45 | greycat | eventually *one* of you should come up with a valid module name! |
| 16:23.50 | jan_ | as in, is there a .config somewhere |
| 16:23.50 | action09_ | i did a grep '8139' in /usr/src/linux an nothing |
| 16:23.51 | rbochan | or have they finally incororated that into tulip now too? ;) |
| 16:24.01 | csdgp | the 8139 is 8139too I believe |
| 16:24.08 | greycat | !win csdgp |
| 16:24.09 | dpkg | Congratulations, csdgp! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 16:24.13 | action09_ | it's not anymore in make menuconfig... |
| 16:24.23 | greycat | action09_: ask a linux kernel channel. |
| 16:24.24 | echnaton | hi.. i want to compile my own kernel.. i need a howto |
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| 16:24.31 | action09_ | greycat ok thanks |
| 16:24.32 | greycat | echnaton: ask a linux kernel channel |
| 16:24.35 | echnaton | kay |
| 16:24.40 | jtza8 | My USB mouse works on other distros but X says it's missing. I then load mousedev and X runs but the mouse won't move. |
| 16:24.44 | cmihai | Paste works great with anything else... |
| 16:24.49 | greycat | jtza8: /msg dpkg usbmouse |
| 16:24.57 | cahoot | cmihai: and etch to be sure |
| 16:25.01 | rbochan | ahh.. 81339... the bane of any network with any actual throughput |
| 16:25.01 | jtza8 | Thanks |
| 16:25.19 | echnaton | but what is different in kernel compilinge and configuring in debian? |
| 16:25.28 | greycat | echnaton: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 16:25.33 | cmihai | cahoot: Sarge, Sid, Etch, FreeBSD...same problems after some use of LyX. Are you a regular user? |
| 16:25.35 | umbop | hmm hey guys, i'm running debian, with fluxbox, on a laptop ibm thinkpad, and when i leave my pc for a while being idle, the rdesktop running to a server, when i go back, i can use the mouse and everything, but when i go to type nothing gets inputted onto the screen, but i can do a ctrl + alt + backspace, to restart X, which ends up working fine then |
| 16:25.53 | cahoot | cmihai: more ofa sporadic lyxer |
| 16:25.58 | rbochan | echnaton: basically, better automation and management |
| 16:26.07 | antgel | we use sa-exim. quite often an email comes into my inbox which thunderbird flags as junk, and it's correct. how is it that thunderbird has better detection than spamassassin which is a dedicated tool? |
| 16:26.11 | echnaton | ? rbochan |
| 16:26.27 | umbop | so i'm not too sure why it keeps doing that |
| 16:26.30 | rbochan | echnaton: what greycat said |
| 16:26.37 | echnaton | kay |
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| 16:26.40 | cahoot | cmihai: and definitely no 600pp books |
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| 16:27.31 | rbochan | umbop: have you looked at the debian-laptop mailing list? you might find a bunch of answers there |
| 16:28.23 | umbop | well i think it might be something to do with fluxbox and rdesktop maybe, or rdesktop and X, as when i initiate rdesktop for the first time, nothing happens, and i have to kill the process, then when i initiate it again, it works fine, if i leave it idle then nothing can be inputted anywhere |
| 16:28.59 | wingot | what irc programs are built into the Debian Sarge Disc 1-3> |
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| 16:29.32 | nforbes | wingot: Arr, can't you use netinstall? |
| 16:29.32 | ma3x | can i convert ntfs to vfat? |
| 16:29.39 | mith | no |
| 16:29.53 | greycat | if you can use an IRC client, you can fucking use apt-get over the internet. |
| 16:30.11 | greycat | conversely, if you cannot use apt-get over the internet, I fail to see how an IRC client could be useful |
| 16:30.13 | wingot | good point greycat :P |
| 16:30.22 | cahoot | cmihai: not a plehtora of pasting probs to find on lyx user ML |
| 16:30.24 | Slippy | grin |
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| 16:30.40 | ma3x | greycat: talking to me? |
| 16:31.01 | wingot | then I now have 2 questions. How do I get apt-get to use the internet (I can't see it in the man pages), and what is a good debian irc program? |
| 16:31.13 | greycat | ma3x: did you mention IRC clients? net installs? |
| 16:31.13 | ma3x | wingot: base-config |
| 16:31.19 | jeffro | how to configure alsa-sequencer |
| 16:31.23 | ma3x | greycat: nope bro, :P |
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| 16:31.32 | greycat | ma3x: then no, I was not talking to you. |
| 16:31.35 | ma3x | oki |
| 16:31.45 | cahoot | jeffro: what card? |
| 16:31.46 | rbochan | wingot: apt-setup, xchat, irssi |
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| 16:32.02 | dj_doc | wingot: vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:32.08 | jeffro | intel 810 |
| 16:32.11 | jeffro | blabla |
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| 16:32.52 | wingot | 3MB package list? Nice |
| 16:33.05 | jeffro | but i have installed alsa but i cant use the sequencer |
| 16:33.05 | rbochan | lots of packages |
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| 16:33.27 | jeffro | error message: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: Onbekend bestand of map |
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| 16:34.19 | asg | !kill ntlm authenticated sites |
| 16:34.34 | jeffro | !kill |
| 16:34.37 | echnaton | is there a qt4 dev deb package? |
| 16:34.47 | jeffro | !lol |
| 16:34.47 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a ubuntu user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
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| 16:35.52 | rbochan | echnaton: not in sarge, try pacakges.debian.org or apt-cache search |
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| 16:36.06 | echnaton | hm kay |
| 16:36.46 | echnaton | rbochan, in unstable |
| 16:36.51 | echnaton | so i should not use it? |
| 16:37.02 | rbochan | are you using unstable? |
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| 16:37.09 | echnaton | no stable sarge 3.1 |
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| 16:37.14 | rbochan | answered |
| 16:37.20 | echnaton | and you? |
| 16:37.34 | rbochan | depends on the machine I'm using |
| 16:37.53 | PissedTrixBunny | is it possible to make a link to a folder within another folder? |
| 16:37.55 | echnaton | kay |
| 16:38.01 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: man ln |
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| 16:41.35 | MrKeuner | why is http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/ taking me to http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/ ? |
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| 16:42.45 | jeffro | maybe the latest? |
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| 16:43.19 | rorot | help, I used tcp_wrapper for vsftpd, and when I wrote 'vsftpd: 192.168.0.2: set VSFTPD_LOAD_CONF /etc/vsftpd.2.conf , the vsftpd couldnt load vsftpd.2.conf when 192.168.0.2 connected, why ? |
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| 16:44.21 | Area-51 | im trying another copy of debian in vmware and im going to recompile the kernel, so, should i compile using the processor of the host system or...? (debian testing, vmware wrkstn 5) |
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| 16:45.36 | liquid_ | hi what If I have lots os dynamic php pages and using eaccelator.. what cache site would be advised? I set it on 32Mb of my RAM now |
| 16:45.48 | liquid_ | s/site/size |
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| 16:46.53 | Gandacu | hi. I've been trying to find out if a Sarge installation will put up a firewall by default. I've installed amanda (the backup client) and although the port 10080 is in the /etc/services, connections on that port fail. |
| 16:47.14 | Gandacu | and amanda is running |
| 16:47.38 | Area-51 | sarge includes a firewall like 99% of all other linux's, its called iptables, you just need to setup rules |
| 16:47.46 | Gandacu | I looked in the rules |
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| 16:48.12 | Gandacu | there seems to be nothing there. unless I don't know what I'm looking for. |
| 16:48.25 | Area-51 | install nmap then do "nmap localhost" and see if the service is running |
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| 16:48.38 | Gandacu | super. will do that, thanks. |
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| 16:49.08 | tosh | anyone know why I don't have a /dev/bluetooth/rfcomm/0 device? |
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| 16:49.21 | echnaton | while kernel configuring in deb: do i need : /dev file system support ? |
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| 16:49.36 | Area-51 | tosh: modules isnt loaded or its not supported by your running kernel |
| 16:49.42 | echnaton | hm its obsolete ==> do not use it |
| 16:49.43 | echnaton | ? |
| 16:50.04 | black13 | how do i fix "svn: 'foo' is not a working copy directory" |
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| 16:50.27 | tosh | Area-51 but hcitool scan hci0 works fine?! |
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| 16:50.59 | Pego | hi |
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| 16:51.33 | Area-51 | tosh: then sorry mate, im not sure |
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| 16:53.03 | Area-51 | echnaton: where are you seeing that? |
| 16:53.04 | highvoltage | dj_doc: i think i'll stick to irssi, thanks. |
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| 16:53.31 | echnaton | file systems->pseudo filesystems |
| 16:53.45 | Area-51 | i dont use it |
| 16:53.51 | Gandacu | alright... 10080/udp open|filtered amanda |
| 16:54.44 | echnaton | me2 Area-51 |
| 16:54.55 | echnaton | i think now udev handels this |
| 16:55.11 | echnaton | handles |
| 16:55.46 | Area-51 | yup |
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| 16:56.04 | fosza | When I 'dd' a floppy is it possible to increate the size of that image? because I would like to add more file to the image later on. |
| 16:56.12 | fosza | increase |
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| 16:56.34 | rbochan | fosza: you make my brane ache |
| 16:56.59 | Area-51 | fosza: mount the image to the local filesystem, add files to it, then recreate the image? |
| 16:57.33 | fosza | Area-51, yea |
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| 16:59.26 | fosza | rbochan, I was able to create an iso using dd and was able to mount the image, but the image contain a size which is only 1.4MB so I was not able to add more stuff to the image. |
| 16:59.32 | akamol | hi, I try to install debian on an usb hdd connected to ibm thinkpad r50. Installation seems to run properly but grub messes up. it is configured by swtup to look on hd0,0, it should be hd1,0. When I change that, it is loading the kernel, but after that there is a kernel panik ( /dev/console does not exist...) I use debian 3.1 linuxtag edition |
| 16:59.50 | Area-51 | fosza: so then dont add more stuff to it |
| 16:59.52 | saberworks | I have a process that shows up as "perl" in ps but it's being run by "www-data" and it's taking up 99% CPU. I think it may be something malicious. Is there a way, based on process ID, to find out EXACTLY what command is actually running? |
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| 17:00.07 | saberworks | whenever I kill it, it starts back up immediately :( |
| 17:00.08 | Osiris | hey, i've been lurking lately, would everyone agree lurking in help chat rooms is good practice to learn or you think i'd learn more in forums? |
| 17:00.21 | thingfish | Osiris: both are good. |
| 17:00.42 | fosza | Area-51, I just want to know if it's possible to increase the size when using dd, any hints? |
| 17:00.44 | Area-51 | akamol: sounds like the loading kernel doesnt have support to access the usb hdd -- i would suggest recompiling the kernel with better usb hdd support built in instead of loading as a module |
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| 17:01.08 | Area-51 | fosza: if you increase the size then you wont be able to write it to a floppy seeing a floppy is 1.44mb |
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| 17:01.34 | fosza | Area-51, I am not planning to write back to a floppy, I am planning to write to CD =) |
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| 17:02.35 | Area-51 | fosza: im not exactly sure other than mounting the image to the local fs and create a new image |
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| 17:02.50 | fosza | anyway, thx a lot |
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| 17:06.26 | akamol | area-51: well, should i use gentoo, then?!? ( ;) ) how could i compile a kernel without a running system? Maybe another kernel on the DVD would work? I know there are several 2.4 and 2.6 and 2.6.8 and so on, but i did not figure out how to make setup a bit more interactive... |
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| 17:07.08 | soccos | how do I associate mailto: hrefs in firefox with thunderbird instead of evolution? |
| 17:07.44 | Area-51 | whoa what? |
| 17:08.05 | Draconicus | apt seems to want to remove lots of unrelated installed stuff when I try to install vital bits. I think parts of apt are severely outdated. Would this have something to do with it? |
| 17:08.06 | apt | that's too long, Draconicus |
| 17:08.28 | Area-51 | akamol: umm, what are you trying to do? |
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| 17:08.48 | Draconicus | Damned bots. |
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| 17:08.57 | CLucas916 | whats the package that has startx? |
| 17:09.02 | Draconicus | ... |
| 17:09.10 | Area-51 | Draconicus: possibly, but it sounds like its removing old packages not being used or packages that could be conflicting with that piece of software |
| 17:09.17 | highvoltage | xserver-xorg? |
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| 17:09.28 | Area-51 | CLucas916: yea, install x-window-system xserver-xorg (or xserver-xfree86) |
| 17:09.29 | Draconicus | Area-51 It's trying to remove the KDE core to install jackd. |
| 17:09.42 | Draconicus | I don't think that's the case. :P |
| 17:09.42 | Area-51 | Draconicus: oh, hah, ive run into that one before |
| 17:09.50 | rbochan | CLucas916: apt-cache search startx |
| 17:09.51 | Seb_Insta | hello |
| 17:09.52 | akamol | debian system on external usb hdd with grub on external hdd while internal hdd leaves untouched (windows... (has to...)) |
| 17:09.53 | Area-51 | ive got no idea, lol |
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| 17:10.04 | Area-51 | rbochan: what the **** |
| 17:10.06 | rbochan | Draconicus: welcome yo sid |
| 17:10.07 | Draconicus | I'm upgrading synaptic, which is what wants to do it. |
| 17:10.14 | viper_ | hmmm I have a winXP vpn server and a debian router.. now the problem is that I can`t receive multiple VPN connections... I've been told that some good router configs can help this... how can I set up iptables to make this possible ... currently I am forwarding port 1723 and 500 |
| 17:10.33 | Draconicus | rbochan: I'm on etch... |
| 17:10.57 | rbochan | then wait a day or 2.. .there's massive changes afoot |
| 17:11.07 | Area-51 | Draconicus: use gnome of fluxbox, so when it removes kdecore you dont have to worry ;) |
| 17:11.09 | Draconicus | It's just a synaptic bug. It happened before. |
| 17:11.20 | rbochan | have you reported this bug? |
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| 17:11.32 | Draconicus | Area-51: That's not the problem. I use GNOME, but I use apps that need the KDE core, like Rosegarden. |
| 17:11.43 | Area-51 | true |
| 17:11.53 | cahoot | soccos: http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20041015_using_firefoxs_mozex_extension_to_call_an_external_mail_program.phtml |
| 17:12.03 | Area-51 | i would follow rbochan's advice and submit a bug report and usually these things resolve within a few days |
| 17:12.25 | Area-51 | its probebly a dependancy/conflict glitch |
| 17:12.32 | simonrvn | Draconicus: does rosegarden do editing, like you can select parts of a file out, and copy them eleswhere (like a new file in rosegarden)? |
| 17:12.38 | simonrvn | else* |
| 17:12.46 | Area-51 | i do have to admit that i love aptitude but some of the quirks drive me nuts |
| 17:12.47 | Draconicus | Rosegarden decided to forget how to properly initiate the sequencer when I installed some new JACK goodies, so I figured an upgrade was in order. I went to do that, and it showed that it wasn't even installed ("okay..."). So I go to install it and it tries to remove KDE, when Rosegarden is a KDE APP. |
| 17:12.49 | akamol | viper: multi point router is your friend. i only know some not that cheep ones... A friend has some cisco routing and vpn harware... |
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| 17:13.05 | rbochan | Area-51: ??? re:<Area-51> rbochan: what the **** |
| 17:13.08 | soccos | cahoot: can I do it with update-alternatives? |
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| 17:13.35 | Draconicus | simonrvn: Dunno. I haven't played with that stuff. However, Rosegarden is nice. It's no Anvil Studio, but then again Anvil Studio only edited midis.... which is all I edit anyway. :P |
| 17:13.46 | viper_ | akamol isn`t this possible in iptables then ? |
| 17:13.53 | cahoot | soccos: actually this seems to be a better description: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/12/1644203 |
| 17:13.59 | runa_ | hey ;) I've upgraded my debian amd64 testing/unstable and now, with libgtk2.0-0 (2.6.8-1) neither firefox or thunderbird works. This is a known problem (reported on bts) but I don't know where to get an older version compiled for amd64. Any ideas? |
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| 17:14.12 | Area-51 | 12:09 < rbochan> CLucas916: apt-cache search startx |
| 17:14.18 | rbochan | what about it? |
| 17:14.43 | rbochan | he asked what package contained that file, I showed him a way to find out |
| 17:14.46 | Area-51 | its startx... he needs the x-window-system and an xserver, just installing a misc x clients package (via searching the cache) would get him no where |
| 17:14.47 | akamol | viper: not sure... vpn with multipoint (transparent ip's on both sides) is not that easy. |
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| 17:14.52 | simonrvn | Draconicus: ok. i'll look into it. audacity is ok for what i'm doing now, but it only exports 3 file formats (one of them i'm using, but i'd like to use other formats, like flac for instance) |
| 17:15.21 | Draconicus | I can't use Audicity, because it loves to not see ANY FUCKING INPUT MODULES. |
| 17:15.35 | Draconicus | Pardon my vulgarity. :P |
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| 17:15.58 | rbochan | I've been accused of vulgarity, I say it's bullshit |
| 17:16.11 | Draconicus | With the latest synaptic, jackd now requires a bunch of authentication stuff, as well as removing KDE. |
| 17:16.14 | Draconicus | This is insanity. |
| 17:16.31 | Seb_Insta | please, i've latest debian stable and i do installed the raid controler and two disk in harware mirror. the mirror is mounted of the raid controler, but the system cannot detect this. sorry for my bad english i'm french. Thanks |
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| 17:16.41 | Draconicus | Rosegarden, a KDE app, requires jackd, which requires KDE to be removed, which means the Rosegarden won't work... |
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| 17:16.57 | akamol | viper: do you have a hardware router or a linux system working as router? |
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| 17:17.12 | Osiris | Draconicus: that's a bitch |
| 17:17.12 | randey | h |
| 17:17.17 | viper_ | akamol debian running iptables |
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| 17:17.31 | Draconicus | This doesn't make sense... all I did was install some vital JACK components... that wouldn't cause this. |
| 17:17.42 | Draconicus | Things seem to be uninstalling themselves. Bizarre. |
| 17:17.52 | Area-51 | Draconicus: i ended up trying to install jackd from source instead of a debian package |
| 17:17.52 | jeffro | Hello, how to install alsa-oss wrapper? |
| 17:17.53 | Draconicus | Should I report this as a bug? |
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| 17:18.04 | Draconicus | Area-51: Any success? |
| 17:18.05 | Area-51 | jeffro: google.com |
| 17:18.06 | simonrvn | Draconicus: it's the c++ abi transition, it's fucking up a lot of stuff, and kde is c++ heavy, and i imagine it's a bit of a pita to transition it properly |
| 17:18.18 | jeffro | I tried Area51 |
| 17:18.28 | rbochan | Draconicus: clicky clicky... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=318098 |
| 17:18.29 | Area-51 | Draconicus: yes, it was installed, as for making it work, i dont know enough about jackd |
| 17:18.35 | simonrvn | sorry for that horrible sentence construction... *eek* |
| 17:18.36 | Draconicus | jeffro: TRY HARDER. |
| 17:18.43 | jeffro | but all is about source and such |
| 17:18.56 | Draconicus | Try adding "binary" or "package" to your search |
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| 17:18.59 | jeffro | and for debian i had to use a apt-get command |
| 17:19.04 | jeffro | SO I DID |
| 17:19.11 | jeffro | but it still nort working |
| 17:19.18 | jeffro | i just want midi support damnit |
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| 17:19.40 | Area-51 | jeffro: use alsa, not oss |
| 17:19.53 | jeffro | i use alsa |
| 17:20.01 | jeffro | i want to use the alsa-oss WRAPPER |
| 17:20.02 | Area-51 | then why would you use the oss wrapper? heh |
| 17:20.05 | Area-51 | hmm |
| 17:20.14 | jeffro | For kmix and other programs |
| 17:20.17 | Area-51 | what soundcard do you have? |
| 17:20.20 | jeffro | and kmid |
| 17:20.24 | jeffro | intel 810 |
| 17:20.26 | simonrvn | *still* on alsa / oss stuff? sheesh. he was here hours ago with us trying to help him with that |
| 17:20.46 | jeffro | yes but now i cant listen midi's |
| 17:21.02 | rbochan | you say that like it's a bad thing... |
| 17:21.14 | Area-51 | jeffro: http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+i820&module=intel8x0 |
| 17:21.15 | jeffro | when i play a midi it say's /dev/sequencer doesnt exist |
| 17:21.20 | Area-51 | heh |
| 17:21.27 | Area-51 | then you dont have your alsa setup properly |
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| 17:22.21 | Osiris | damn that's an understatement :) |
| 17:22.22 | jeffro | so i must use the source... |
| 17:22.35 | Area-51 | jeffro: not neccessarily |
| 17:22.43 | jeffro | it says i have to use the source... |
| 17:22.47 | Area-51 | can you listen to regular music? |
| 17:22.56 | jeffro | yes |
| 17:22.59 | jeffro | but not midi |
| 17:23.02 | shingouz | there is an alsa-oss module already in the debian kernels |
| 17:23.03 | jeffro | alsa works |
| 17:23.11 | jeffro | but without the midi support |
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| 17:23.20 | jeffro | thats in the oss wrapper |
| 17:23.23 | Area-51 | then you should try alsa from source ;P |
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| 17:23.33 | jeffro | omg |
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| 17:23.42 | Osiris | lol @ "Hackers" on Encore Mystery... so lame..fbi peeps busting in with cops. fuck them. |
| 17:23.43 | jeffro | i really have to work oh so hard to listen a midi.... |
| 17:23.45 | Draconicus | Damn... I can't use Rosegarden now. ;_ |
| 17:23.47 | Draconicus | ;_;* |
| 17:23.49 | shingouz | and when the kernel compile starts i will definitely hide in the refrigerator |
| 17:23.54 | Draconicus | Just when I was eager to compose something, too. :\ |
| 17:23.56 | akamol | viper: openvpn on Win? |
| 17:23.58 | Draconicus | Oh well. Time to play with audio stuff. |
| 17:24.11 | Draconicus | CRAPS |
| 17:24.15 | jeffro | delicues |
| 17:24.17 | Draconicus | No JACK server without jackd |
| 17:24.18 | simonrvn | cd /usr/share/alsa-base; sudo ./snddevices |
| 17:24.20 | Osiris | Draconicus: plural? |
| 17:24.28 | jeffro | extra obstacle for debian users |
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| 17:24.34 | simonrvn | hardly |
| 17:24.36 | jeffro | Note to debian users: You need to save this information into a file in the /etc/modutils/ directory (Eg. /etc/modutils/alsa) and run update-modules |
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| 17:24.49 | Draconicus | Osiris: Yes. It provokes humor. |
| 17:24.58 | shingouz | jeffro: wtf you talking about now? |
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| 17:25.14 | jeffro | thats i have to do too |
| 17:25.20 | jeffro | for damn midi support |
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| 17:25.30 | soccos | cahoot: another (simple) solution - http://www.bytecave.net/anders/guide/MultiplePage/TroubleShooting.html |
| 17:25.38 | ConneXion | hey can anybody tell me the name of the base package for the xserver? |
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| 17:25.50 | simonrvn | ^^^ will fix /dev/sequencer .... |
| 17:25.51 | rbochan | !tell ConneXion about install x |
| 17:26.08 | ConneXion | nice bot |
| 17:26.12 | ConneXion | :D |
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| 17:26.16 | ConneXion | thanks |
| 17:26.17 | rbochan | good luck |
| 17:26.20 | jeffro | what will fix /dev/sequencer |
| 17:26.20 | shingouz | dpkg: botsnack |
| 17:26.23 | jeffro | the source? |
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| 17:26.42 | simonrvn | NO |
| 17:26.45 | simonrvn | cd /usr/share/alsa-base; sudo ./snddevices |
| 17:26.49 | shingouz | jeffro: where the hell did you find the documentation you are reading? |
| 17:27.00 | distempr | I need to write a couple cron bash scripts. Where would you say these need to reside on the filesystem? |
| 17:27.02 | jeffro | in this chat seesion |
| 17:27.03 | echnaton | what is initrd.img ? |
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| 17:27.12 | simonrvn | pulled it out of some INSTALL file from upstream i bet |
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| 17:27.30 | greycat | distempr: dependson what they do. |
| 17:27.30 | jeffro | should it work now? |
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| 17:27.40 | greycat | distempr: /usr/local/bin is a good place for most things |
| 17:27.46 | shingouz | jeffro: i am not going to scroll up umpteenthousand lines to see the links. be vague if you want. |
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| 17:27.57 | heart0gold | how would I disable user's access to scp & ftp while allowing ssh usage? |
| 17:28.01 | distempr | greycat: thanks, they'll run sa-learn and a bunch of other menial mail tasks. |
| 17:28.01 | jeffro | http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+i820&module=intel8x0#Inst |
| 17:28.05 | xoz_ | jeffro: or ~/bin |
| 17:28.38 | valdyn_ | heart0gold: how would that make sense? scp is possible with ssh. |
| 17:28.42 | jeffro | this is strange |
| 17:28.54 | jeffro | i did it |
| 17:29.00 | jeffro | then i open kmid |
| 17:29.04 | jeffro | then setup midi |
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| 17:29.15 | jeffro | there is no midi device... |
| 17:29.21 | Seb_Insta | please, i've latest debian stable and i do installed the raid controler and two disk in harware mirror. the mirror is mounted of the raid controler, but the system cannot detect this. sorry for my bad english i'm french. Thanks |
| 17:29.26 | greycat | distempr: /usr/local/bin sounds good then |
| 17:29.29 | rbochan | !fr |
| 17:29.29 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 17:29.40 | jeffro | it is impossible |
| 17:29.45 | jeffro | damn midi support |
| 17:29.46 | shingouz | jeffro: why can't you do what simonrvn told you to do? |
| 17:29.46 | Seb_Insta | merci |
| 17:29.52 | jeffro | i did that |
| 17:29.55 | jeffro | it worked |
| 17:29.55 | jeffro | then |
| 17:29.59 | valdyn_ | Seb_Insta: its probably software raid. linux cant grok windows software raid. |
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| 17:30.04 | jeffro | i want to listen to a midi and i wont play |
| 17:30.13 | jeffro | because there is no midi device |
| 17:30.19 | jeffx | jeffro: use timidity to play |
| 17:30.20 | shingouz | jeffro: are you vague on purpose? |
| 17:30.28 | jeffro | no im not |
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| 17:30.39 | rbochan | PerfDave: RUN! |
| 17:30.41 | jeffro | oh no timidity |
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| 17:30.50 | jeffro | i have to use the commandline ever time |
| 17:30.56 | jeffro | big filenames -.-" |
| 17:30.59 | deepan | i changed the Port option in sshd_config file to 80 in a remote system (remote.com) and tried to connect to that system with the command ssh remote.com -p 80 -v .. but it does not connect.. it says timed out.. please see http://pastebin.com/316354 |
| 17:31.02 | shingouz | jeffro: the stuff you slap here is completely unhelpful, i can only see whining and a lot of enters |
| 17:31.09 | PerfDave | rbochan: Why? |
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| 17:31.20 | greycat | shingouz: /ignore him. you know you want to. |
| 17:31.23 | rbochan | take my word for it ;) |
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| 17:31.31 | shingouz | *plonk* |
| 17:31.34 | PerfDave | deepan: Did you restart sshd after changing the configuration file? |
| 17:31.35 | adapter | how can i restore my gnome interface settings to default? |
| 17:31.40 | useruser | any hungarian speakers here can tell me what this says? http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/Archivum/linux-200207/msg01379.html |
| 17:31.40 | shingouz | ahhh... lot better this way :) |
| 17:31.52 | greycat | adapter: mv ~/.gnome ~/.dead-gnome |
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| 17:32.03 | greycat | adapter: and anything else it created, also ~/.gconf* and so on |
| 17:32.36 | PerfDave | Is there a way in mutt to mark a message as replied? The status flags have gotten screwed up on one of my messages, due to a network hiccup. |
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| 17:33.08 | greycat | PerfDave: might be easier to edit the mailbox (mbox format) or rename the file within the maildir (Maildir/ format) |
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| 17:33.24 | PerfDave | greycat: Bah :) |
| 17:33.29 | simonrvn | PerfDave: F1 ;p |
| 17:33.29 | adapter | it didn't worked |
| 17:33.31 | rbochan | PerfDave: reply again? |
| 17:33.39 | deepan | i changed the Port option in sshd_config file to 80 in a remote system (remote.com) and tried to connect to that system with the command ssh remote.com -p 80 -v .. but it does not connect.. it says timed out.. please see http://pastebin.com/316354 |
| 17:33.57 | adapter | i wanted to restore my taskbar and windows settings... |
| 17:34.08 | rbochan | deepan: did you restart sshd after the change? |
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| 17:34.59 | PerfDave | rbochan: That's inelegant :) |
| 17:35.07 | rbochan | sure, but it might work |
| 17:35.07 | jnk | What adsl modem + router would you recommend for good network stability? |
| 17:35.20 | jnk | (all-in-one I mean) |
| 17:35.25 | cahoot | PerfDave: got asmall r on such msgs here |
| 17:35.28 | ConneXion | okay I'm having problems with my xserver... whenever it starts up it just gives me a black screen with no option to Ctrl-Alt-Bkspce. is there a full list of packages associated with Xorg? |
| 17:35.33 | shingouz | jnk: anything that connects with ethernet to your computer |
| 17:35.50 | rbochan | ConneXion: pacakges.debian.org will show you all dependencies |
| 17:35.52 | jnk | shingouz, ah I forgot to add: with wireless :) |
| 17:35.54 | jeffro | How do i install a sequencer in alsa....... |
| 17:35.56 | rbochan | er.. packages.debian.org |
| 17:36.04 | jeffro | I mean a midi device |
| 17:36.05 | ConneXion | hermmm.... okay |
| 17:36.05 | PerfDave | cahoot: Yes, and I don't, that's the point ;) |
| 17:36.08 | valdyn_ | ConneXion: try ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 17:36.13 | jnk | shingouz, (it's the stability of the wireless network which worries me) |
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| 17:36.31 | jeffx | jeffro: timidity :> |
| 17:36.38 | ConneXion | ahhh yes the terminal hotkey |
| 17:36.39 | jeffro | Timidity wont start |
| 17:36.41 | ConneXion | forgot about that |
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| 17:36.44 | ConneXion | hold on, testing |
| 17:36.53 | jeffro | i rightclicked the midi file and open with timidity |
| 17:36.59 | jeffro | nothing happens |
| 17:37.15 | Eulex | jeffro, do it in a console and check what error you get |
| 17:37.19 | shingouz | jnk: i use SMC thingies here. they all are good though |
| 17:37.50 | valdyn_ | jeffro: how about reading the documenation to timidity? |
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| 17:38.13 | jeffro | i cannot get in the directory midi's |
| 17:38.25 | jeffro | my command line changes to a: > |
| 17:38.25 | heart0gold | Valandil I know scp is possible with ssh, I just want to make it harder for our contractors to download all of our code at once |
| 17:38.30 | ConneXion | that's giving me way too many accessories for X... I just need a listing of the packages for the core so I can downgrade |
| 17:38.51 | deepan | ya i restarted sshd PerfDave |
| 17:38.54 | yuacht | greycat, you love ubuntu right? ;) |
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| 17:38.59 | Valandil | heart0gold: hum? |
| 17:39.16 | valdyn_ | heart0gold: move 'scp' away ( man dpkg-divert ) |
| 17:39.24 | cahoot | PerfDave: replied msgs look like this in ls: 1121766364.8930_0.host:2,RS |
| 17:39.32 | Valandil | ah *ggg* |
| 17:39.37 | jnk | shingouz, thanks |
| 17:39.50 | jeffro | /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg: No such file or directory timidity: Can't read any configuration file. Please check /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg |
| 17:41.15 | heart0gold | valdyn_ I awnt to 'divert' it only for a particular user(s) -- not for the entire system |
| 17:41.30 | valdyn_ | heart0gold: however, if you contractors can read code, they can probably use tar and pipes so uh, that doesnt make it 'hard' |
| 17:42.03 | valdyn_ | heart0gold: oh, make it executable only for members of a certain group, but divert it too. |
| 17:42.19 | rbochan | valdyn_: I was just thinking along those lines |
| 17:42.39 | rbochan | just not sure in my head how to go about it |
| 17:42.43 | rbochan | yet |
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| 17:44.26 | jeffro | i dont hear anything |
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| 17:45.57 | jeffro | ok someone explain me to do a alsa install of the intel 810 sound/midi device before i explode |
| 17:46.10 | jeffro | because i just want to listen to some midi's |
| 17:46.23 | jeffro | nvm gotto eat -.-" |
| 17:46.35 | rbochan | !daft |
| 17:46.35 | dpkg | from memory, daft is wird |
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| 17:47.27 | ConneXion | is the package for the xserver xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg? |
| 17:47.41 | simonrvn | depends which debian version you're on |
| 17:47.41 | ConneXion | (running xorg btw) |
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| 17:47.57 | ConneXion | but it says that the xserver-xorg package points to another package |
| 17:48.03 | ConneXion | and it doesn't give any more information |
| 17:48.12 | simonrvn | sarge, etch, sid? |
| 17:48.31 | PissedTrixBunny | !faq |
| 17:48.31 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 17:51.33 | deepan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:52.00 | rbochan | deepan: did you restart sshd after the change? |
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| 17:52.24 | valdyn_ | deepan: and you are behind a router / firewall? |
| 17:52.25 | deepan | ya restarted |
| 17:52.29 | Rawplayer | maybe webservr running? |
| 17:52.36 | rbochan | does ISP block port 80? |
| 17:52.40 | deepan | ya i am behind a firewall.. only 80 is allowd |
| 17:52.47 | deepan | no blocking from isp |
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| 17:53.05 | valdyn_ | deepan: allowed? that is not useful, is it forwarded to your host? |
| 17:53.09 | Ronin | isp allow port 80? |
| 17:53.39 | valdyn_ | deepan: err, i meant, is your ssh server behind a firewall? |
| 17:53.54 | deepan | i have a global ip.. valdyn_.. |
| 17:54.22 | deepan | and i allow ssh |
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| 17:54.58 | valdyn_ | deepan: either your ssh isnt running on port 80 ( which you already confirmed false ), or the packet isnt reaching your ssh server. |
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| 17:55.28 | valdyn_ | deepan: telnet server 80 |
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| 17:57.45 | elkid | is there yet gnome 2.10 for sarge any backport? |
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| 17:58.15 | rbochan | elkid: check apt-get.org and/or backports.org ? |
| 17:58.36 | Slippy | anyone got a mplayer backport for unstable? |
| 17:59.01 | valdyn_ | Slippy: that is nonsense question, since a 'backport' ports back from unstable. |
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| 17:59.06 | rbochan | !tell Slippy about mplayer |
| 17:59.36 | elkid | rbochan, i have ckecked backports.org |
| 18:00.03 | deepan | valdyn_: i am able to ssh to my server from my server.. and sshd is running at 80 .. thats also confirmed |
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| 18:00.15 | Eulex | elkid, then you're most probably out of luck -- though you can also try to google for it |
| 18:00.26 | valdyn_ | deepan: so 'telnet server 80' from your client |
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| 18:01.25 | valdyn_ | deepan: timeout could either way indicate that the packets are dropped, which is only done by a firewall |
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| 18:03.25 | deepan | i had allowed all connection in firewall from that paticular client.. |
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| 18:04.06 | valdyn_ | deepan: and that firewall is on the same host? |
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| 18:04.19 | deepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.28 | rbochan | d'oh |
| 18:04.29 | deepan | ya .. its firewall in the same host.. |
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| 18:04.35 | deepan | no proxy ..only one computer |
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| 18:04.42 | deepan | the one from which i am working |
| 18:04.46 | deepan | now |
| 18:05.07 | valdyn_ | deepan: so its configured differently than you think, since packets are obviously drop |
| 18:05.15 | valdyn_ | dropped |
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| 18:05.39 | valdyn_ | deepan: did you run the telnet command yet ( see above ) ? |
| 18:05.48 | gnd | hi, I'm recompiling my kernel, one question, would an AMD Sempron go in the Processor Family under K7 or K8? |
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| 18:06.07 | valdyn_ | deepan: '/etc/init.d/apache(2) stop' btw |
| 18:06.30 | valdyn_ | gnd: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:06.56 | PerfDave | gnd: I think k8 is for Opteron and AMD64 stuff... |
| 18:07.04 | deepan | ya telnet said timed out. . valdyn_ |
| 18:07.11 | BananaJoe | i think you can use k7 for your sempron |
| 18:07.31 | valdyn_ | deepan: so look into your firewall or your isp |
| 18:07.55 | gnd | Athlon/duron/K7 |
| 18:08.05 | valdyn_ | deepan: if *anything* was reachable ( be it httpd or sshd then telnet wouldnt time out ) |
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| 18:08.21 | gnd | Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8 |
| 18:08.30 | valdyn_ | deepan: if there was no firewall like thing you'd get a connection refused in case nothing is running on that port. |
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| 18:09.05 | elkid | rbochan, i found gnome2.10, but it is not for sarge i wonder if there is for sarge |
| 18:09.31 | gnd | cpuinfo just says vendor_id: AuthenticAMD cpu family: 6 model : 8 model name : AMD Sempron(tm) 2500+ |
| 18:10.10 | deepan | there is nothing named httpd in /etc/init.d/ and there is a file named krfb_httpd in usr bin.. |
| 18:10.14 | resuDaed | hi guys, quick bash question... I have a list of files on stdout seperated by newlines and I want to run a command on each of them ... unfortuantly they have spaces in the names ... any ideas? |
| 18:10.20 | valdyn_ | gnd: go w/ k7 |
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| 18:11.16 | gnd | ok, thanks |
| 18:11.20 | valdyn_ | deepan: netstat -plt |
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| 18:11.54 | wingot | what is the name of the debian config util? (ie. the command) |
| 18:12.14 | Rawplayer | o_O |
| 18:12.22 | Rawplayer | apt-setup? |
| 18:12.22 | valdyn_ | wingot: no such thing, if you are looking for something like yast, what are you trying to configure? |
| 18:12.29 | Eulex | wingot, dpkg-reconfigure package-name |
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| 18:12.39 | gnd | dpkg --reconfigure packetname ? |
| 18:12.47 | valdyn_ | gnd: no |
| 18:13.06 | wingot | no, I mean, remember when you installed debian, that screen you had once the computer restarted? |
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| 18:13.14 | afabian | resuDaed, run them through sed or awk, put ' ' around each line, so the spaces don't leak out. |
| 18:13.19 | Eulex | wingot, what screen? |
| 18:13.23 | wingot | and it had the apt-get setup and things |
| 18:13.24 | valdyn_ | wingot: base-config |
| 18:13.28 | wingot | cheers |
| 18:13.36 | valdyn_ | wingot: 'apt-setup' |
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| 18:13.53 | wingot | base-config was the one I was looking for |
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| 18:14.25 | gnd | isn't sempron to athlon64 what duron was to athlon? |
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| 18:14.56 | deepan | valdyn_: http://pastebin.com/316392 |
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| 18:17.09 | valdyn_ | deepan: netstat -plt does show which process is listening on each port, why'd you skip pasting that? |
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| 18:18.49 | mihaly | For some reason only root and the first user I created is able to use sound... I get something about not having permissios to the sound device |
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| 18:19.15 | valdyn_ | mihaly: adduser user audio |
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| 18:19.44 | valdyn_ | mihaly: adduser <user> audio |
| 18:20.06 | rbochan | valdyn_: is there a way to do that w/out having to logout and back in? |
| 18:20.20 | mihaly | valdyn_: do I need to log in/out after that? |
| 18:20.52 | valdyn_ | rbochan: you could just log in, logging out isnt required to open a new login, but you *have* to log in. |
| 18:20.56 | valdyn_ | mihaly: yea |
| 18:21.11 | deepan | valdyn_: tcp 0 0 *:http *:* LISTEN 5215/sshd |
| 18:21.32 | valdyn_ | deepan: alright, so sshd is working and listening on all interfaces |
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| 18:21.47 | valdyn_ | deepan: blame your firewall or your isp ( and search for the error there ) |
| 18:22.07 | deepan | k.. will try to figure out that |
| 18:22.44 | mihaly | valdyn_: yea it work now, thanks |
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| 18:23.23 | tarzeau | greycat: can i query you? |
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| 18:26.13 | darkskiez | WHT the hell is a WHT file, as in dirent.h DT_WHT, I know what a SOCK/LNK/CHR/FIFO etc are |
| 18:26.34 | Rawplayer | did you giggled? |
| 18:26.49 | darkskiez | yeh, anyone that mentions it, know what it is |
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| 18:26.54 | possie_ | hi |
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| 18:27.49 | possie_ | when i'm booting my system using lilo, instead of the LILO beeing printed out, i see 3 time the L (from LILO) underneath each other, i know the meanings of L LI LI- etc, but i haven't seen this, anyone else perhaps? |
| 18:28.01 | asg | darkskiez: try #c |
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| 18:28.37 | darkskiez | asg: cheers |
| 18:28.40 | ph8 | lo guys |
| 18:28.47 | ph8 | I've just apt-got sendmail |
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| 18:29.03 | ph8 | and tried a basic thing with php to test it (<?php mail(...) ?>) etc |
| 18:29.05 | ph8 | It's not sending |
| 18:29.13 | echnaton | what is initrd.img? |
| 18:29.15 | ph8 | Getting this error: Jul 19 19:20:02 prodigy sm-mta[20900]: j6JNK2Ml020900: SYSERR(root): hash map "access": unsafe map file /etc/mail/access.db: World writable directory |
| 18:29.23 | ph8 | but that file is rw-r-x--x |
| 18:29.26 | ph8 | the directory is 750 |
| 18:29.29 | ph8 | so any ideas? |
| 18:29.49 | asg | ph8: try #sendmail first |
| 18:30.05 | asg | echnaton: a small root filesystem that is loaded into memory to allow modules to be inserted into the kernel. |
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| 18:30.38 | ph8 | ty |
| 18:30.51 | echnaton | hm compiled the new 2.6.12.3 kernel and made my kernel deb file and installed it, but there is no initrd.img is it neceessary? |
| 18:31.03 | asg | echnaton: did you compile it with make-kpkg? |
| 18:31.36 | echnaton | yes |
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| 18:31.37 | asg | echnaton: or rather did you use make-kpkg --initrd ... |
| 18:31.41 | fosza | How do I add files to an iso image? |
| 18:31.48 | echnaton | no i did not use make-kpkg --initrd |
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| 18:31.52 | echnaton | should i? |
| 18:31.53 | asg | fosza: create a new image with mkisofs |
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| 18:32.11 | asg | echnaton: yes, it won't create the initrd unless you use 'make-kpkg --initrd ...' |
| 18:32.20 | echnaton | kay |
| 18:32.21 | markit | hi, with sarge install, how can I install kernel 2.6.x? seems it installs 2.4.x, |
| 18:32.32 | asg | markit: type 'linux26' at the boot prompt |
| 18:32.41 | fosza | asg: is it possible to put use windows bootable file? |
| 18:32.51 | asg | markit: if you've already installed, apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install one from the resultant list) |
| 18:32.54 | markit | asg: thanks a lot |
| 18:32.58 | asg | markit: you're welcome |
| 18:33.07 | asg | fosza: what's that? |
| 18:33.27 | echnaton | asg so he compiles the deb file again with initrd? |
| 18:33.41 | augusto_hp | i installed a Debain Sarge 3.1 r1 in a machina that is acting like and File Server in a network, it has a 80gb HD and i am receiving this msg during its boot: hdc: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8). What it is ? |
| 18:33.42 | fosza | asg: is it possible to put windows bootable file using mkisofs? |
| 18:33.42 | asg | echnaton: yes, use the same command line as before but with the --initrd option. |
| 18:33.55 | asg | fosza: oh, like el torito? |
| 18:34.08 | echnaton | thx asg |
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| 18:34.38 | igorlinux | !noscreens |
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| 18:34.43 | igorlinux | !screensfound |
| 18:34.43 | asg | !no screens found |
| 18:34.44 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 18:34.57 | igorlinux | af |
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| 18:34.58 | asg | igorlinux: in the future, /msg dpkg liskeys foo, /msg dpkg listvals foo |
| 18:35.02 | douba | !list |
| 18:35.02 | dpkg | one warez list being sent |
| 18:35.09 | igorlinux | q merda viu |
| 18:35.54 | igorlinux | and what about de frame buffer? |
| 18:36.08 | asg | igorlinux: disable it if it causes problems. |
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| 18:36.19 | igorlinux | its the problem |
| 18:36.20 | igorlinux | but |
| 18:36.25 | igorlinux | the comand |
| 18:36.28 | igorlinux | i dont know |
| 18:36.50 | asg | igorlinux: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 18:37.05 | augusto_hp | i installed a Debain Sarge 3.1 r1 in a machina that is acting like and File Server in a network, it has a 80gb HD and i am receiving this msg during its boot: hdc: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8). What it is ? |
| 18:37.10 | Eulex | igorlinux, what video card and what driver? |
| 18:37.31 | igorlinux | nvidia geforce 2 MX |
| 18:37.38 | Eulex | augusto_hp, means that it can't find the cd device |
| 18:37.45 | Eulex | igorlinux, and what driver? |
| 18:37.49 | igorlinux | nv |
| 18:38.00 | augusto_hp | euler; i will see that, thx man |
| 18:38.58 | Eulex | igorlinux, look in the xfree log in /var/log for (EE) |
| 18:39.06 | igorlinux | [Eulex]: ok |
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| 18:40.22 | IRCMonkey | trying to install Sarge on an old powerpc ! How do I start the installation ??? |
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| 18:40.54 | IRCMonkey | Have anyone of you tried It ?? |
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| 18:40.58 | mlevine | ? |
| 18:41.17 | tarzeau | IRCMonkey: not newworld? forget it |
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| 18:41.36 | IRCMonkey | hmm.. I just thought It was possible |
| 18:41.56 | Eulex | tarzeau, "newworld"? |
| 18:42.14 | tarzeau | Eulex: is it gray or colored? |
| 18:42.15 | tarzeau | or white? |
| 18:42.18 | Eulex | tarzeau, oh, found a dpkg factoid for it |
| 18:42.38 | tarzeau | if there's something that sucks more than an oldworld mac. then that's my life |
| 18:42.57 | IRCMonkey | Its a 8200/120 power mac |
| 18:43.22 | IRCMonkey | would be nice to give it new life with linux |
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| 18:43.39 | Eulex | !oldworld |
| 18:43.39 | dpkg | oldworld is probably the term used to describe Apple PowerMacs that use a hardware MacOS ROM. They must use quik to boot, not yaboot/ybin. |
| 18:44.11 | Eulex | !newworld |
| 18:44.11 | dpkg | newworld is, like, the term used to describe Apple PowerMacs which do not contain MacOS in ROM. NewWorlds include all iMacs, iBooks, Blue G3s, and all G4s. They cannot use quik or BootX, they must use yaboot/ybin. |
| 18:44.47 | PeterB | !tell igorlinux about away |
| 18:44.53 | igorlinux | ta tiau |
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| 18:45.08 | m4lu8 | Would someone know how to set a client's hostname = dhcp server sends it? |
| 18:45.08 | IRCMonkey | so how do I get the mac to boot from the cdrom ? Hold down some key or something ? |
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| 18:46.58 | Eulex | IRCMonkey, maybe this will help: http://www.instituteofthefuture.org/technotes/debian.html |
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| 18:47.23 | ales | hello, can you help ? ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger ... installing debian on travelmate 8000 |
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| 18:47.53 | Eulex | IRCMonkey, this seems promising: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/vuln-dev/2001-q1/0652.html |
| 18:48.11 | aaronlin | Where do I begin if I want to install software on debian? |
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| 18:48.32 | m4lu8 | aaronlin, you begin at the beginning. |
| 18:48.37 | Eulex | aaronlin, apt-cache search for it? |
| 18:48.39 | aaronlin | Right now, I want to get at least an internet browser and irc client that runs in the console |
| 18:48.40 | m4lu8 | or, man apt. |
| 18:48.57 | IRCMonkey | thanks :) |
| 18:48.58 | aaronlin | is apt similar to yum? |
| 18:49.12 | mage_ | no |
| 18:49.16 | IRCMonkey | I´ll try to make a bootfloppy |
| 18:49.17 | mage_ | yum is similar to apt. |
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| 18:49.20 | floppyears | please use aptitude instead of apt |
| 18:49.27 | mage_ | floppyears: why ? |
| 18:49.37 | PeterB | IRCMonkey: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install |
| 18:49.41 | ales | i installed, rebooted abd on ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Edge set to Level Trigger got stuck - any idea ? |
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| 18:50.24 | floppyears | mage_: it handles recommends sanely, it also keeps track of the packages that are updated, upgraded; also it removes packages when they are no longer needed |
| 18:50.45 | mage_ | deborphan does that too |
| 18:50.47 | h3xis | anyone know why my changes made to /dev aren't saved whenever i reboot my machine? |
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| 18:50.55 | maj_g00n | ales : try to boot with kernel option "acpi=off" |
| 18:50.57 | IRCMonkey | oh... I see.. the 8200 is oldworld |
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| 18:51.14 | ales | maj_g00n: ok, i will |
| 18:51.17 | floppyears | mage_: http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=111649 |
| 18:51.22 | valdyn_ | h3xis: because you are using udev ? |
| 18:51.54 | floppyears | mage_: the logs that aptitude can be very useful |
| 18:51.58 | X-TRaZy | I have a remote machine which has kernel oopsed, and will not reboot....How can I force a reboot? |
| 18:52.04 | echnaton | hm iam looking for nice debian wallpaper: red debian logo black background |
| 18:52.10 | h3xis | valdyn_, yeah i thought that was the problem, but how do i fix it? is there like a file that i edit to tell it to leave my changes along or something? |
| 18:52.10 | mage_ | I don't care about logs |
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| 18:52.46 | valdyn_ | h3xis: nope, you have to edit stuff in /etc/udev/ for specific 'custom' /dev/ entries |
| 18:52.59 | floppyears | mage_: they are useful if you need to look back and figure out what packages have been upgraded that could be causing problems |
| 18:53.02 | h3xis | ugh. ok, alright thanks |
| 18:53.02 | fosza | I created a image.iso by using 'dd' is it possible to add files in the image by mounting the image? |
| 18:53.06 | ales | maj_g00n: just boot acpi=off ? |
| 18:53.37 | valdyn_ | fosza: no |
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| 18:54.43 | jair | we got 2 250 hdd and could use some help partitioning up the drive |
| 18:54.55 | manu | where can i find log files for remote mysql connections |
| 18:54.59 | fosza | valdyn_, =( any reason for it? I dd from floppy and I was able to copy file to the image by mounting it, but it has limited of space. |
| 18:55.05 | dp_wiz | any ideas why system hangs up while booting, moments after series of "02 Cpu error (08) ? |
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| 18:55.24 | bBfish|Desktop | oh hi, a lot of people here |
| 18:55.26 | manu | I get connection refused error when trying to connect to the server |
| 18:55.36 | valdyn_ | fosza: an iso image is already full, you cannot add stuff to it, secondly iso9660 does not support additions |
| 18:55.40 | manu | I need to fid the reason why |
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| 18:55.54 | manu | where do they get logged |
| 18:56.08 | fosza | valdyn_, thx |
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| 18:56.32 | valdyn_ | fosza: you need to create an entirely new image with the files from your iso and whatever else. |
| 18:56.36 | jair | does 5g for / 40 for /usr, 200 for /home and for second hdd 250 for /data |
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| 18:56.53 | Eulex | dp_wiz, googled for the error? |
| 18:56.53 | valdyn_ | jair: on a desktop / home box? |
| 18:56.58 | fosza | valdyn_, but my bootable are windows files, is it still possible to make it happen? |
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| 18:57.06 | jair | server |
| 18:57.20 | ales | maj_g00n: i am on grub menu, wcan you tell what to say ? (sorry i had lilo before) |
| 18:57.30 | floppyears | jair: that is more than plenty |
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| 18:57.41 | jair | we allready have it. |
| 18:57.45 | jair | it was donated to us |
| 18:58.03 | valdyn_ | jair: 20 for /everyting is fine. i cant tell you what you need in /home, nor what kind of databases you are trying to serve from /var |
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| 18:58.32 | manu | where can i find log files for remote mysql connections in server I get connection refused error when trying to connect to the server |
| 18:58.48 | ales | halo, i am dummie, how to boot from grub with acpi=off ? i am on grub menu, wcan you tell what to say ? (sorry i had lilo before) |
| 18:58.53 | valdyn_ | jair: 40 for /usr is by far to huge. |
| 18:59.08 | Osiris | how can i make sure my nvidia card was recognized correctly and that i can fully do 3d? |
| 18:59.10 | jair | well, we were thinking that itd be nice to sepperate what would go in usr and / |
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| 18:59.19 | jair | what is the largest size for usr u could think of |
| 18:59.23 | Osiris | and if 3d doesnt work, how do i make it work? |
| 18:59.27 | valdyn_ | jair: 10 for /usr is by easily more than enough |
| 18:59.29 | maj_g00n | ales : you have to edit the entry you are trying too boot. press e key and you vil have an editor, add acpi=off at the end of the string starting with "kernel" |
| 18:59.35 | valdyn_ | jair: 10 for /usr is by far easily more than enough |
| 19:00.06 | valdyn_ | jair: the remaining partitions depends on what you are going to do.. so i cant give you numbers. |
| 19:00.15 | dieguito | hello, im using x.org, has anyone lost the @ sign in the Q? i mean, when your press altgr + q you should get a @ in "la" keyboards. anyone? |
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| 19:00.34 | fosza | valdyn_, but my bootable are windows files, is it still possible to make it happen? |
| 19:00.47 | jair | so, 10 for / and 10 for /usr |
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| 19:00.55 | valdyn_ | fosza: yea, man mkisofs i guess |
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| 19:01.38 | valdyn_ | jair: what else are you going to split off? 5 for / and 10 for /usr is for both more than enough. huge amounts of whatever data you want to have on that serve rshould be on different partitions again |
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| 19:02.11 | jair | we can manipulate that stuff later, but we wanted a 3rd party oppinion on it. |
| 19:02.14 | jair | cool, thanks |
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| 19:02.32 | valdyn_ | jair: data mounts etc can trivially be move to whatever new partition anyway. |
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| 19:03.06 | jair | true |
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| 19:03.28 | ales | maj_g00n: wow! \o/ works! |
| 19:03.31 | jair | thats wy we wanted to get numbers to start |
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| 19:04.56 | ConneXion | hey does anyone know where to get a font for X that looks and has the same characters as the terminal font? |
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| 19:05.14 | ValheruLord | can i give color support to nano? |
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| 19:05.34 | manu | where can i find log files for remote mysql connections in server I get connection refused error when trying to connect to the server |
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| 19:06.00 | jnk | ConneXion, easy, pick anyone and set your terminal font to it |
| 19:06.01 | DamonG | hello |
| 19:06.12 | Ipsooo | manu > /var/log/mysql/mysql.err maybe |
| 19:06.15 | DamonG | i need help |
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| 19:06.40 | Ipsooo | or mysql.log |
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| 19:07.04 | Eulex | DamonG, then ask |
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| 19:07.30 | ConneXion | jnk: see I am ssh-ing to a server that uses ansi escape sequences and characters for line-drawing, etc, and all of the X fonts show up as question marks or D's or something when I need it to display the exact same characters as the tty |
| 19:07.31 | Eulex | ValheruLord, check man nano, but I don't think so |
| 19:07.35 | valdyn_ | jair: / w/o usr is ~200mb for me, not counting squid and /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 19:08.25 | jnk | ConneXion, isn't it a problem with your terminal? have you tried using another one? |
| 19:08.30 | DamonG | i compile the kernel 2.6.12.3 and replaced in my sarge |
| 19:08.31 | ValheruLord | Eulex, i just saw it in the lfs book.. while configuring --enable-color ;) |
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| 19:08.46 | ConneXion | it renders perfectly when in a full-screen tty, but not in a console window |
| 19:08.49 | DamonG | changed the grub an reeboot |
| 19:08.53 | DamonG | and reboot |
| 19:08.55 | jair | valdyn_, but normally in sarge you do not have to separate /usr ?? |
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| 19:09.16 | ConneXion | because the X fonts have different character assignments... I got the colors and everything to work just fine, but the line-drawing characters are not showing up right. |
| 19:09.17 | valdyn_ | jair: that's right. |
| 19:09.35 | doub | jair: you can do as you please, on any sort of linux or unix system. it's just a better thing to do |
| 19:09.38 | jair | valdyn_, I think that the ones you separate for easy recover or back up are "/" "/home" and "swap" correct??? |
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| 19:10.14 | DamonG | but when start the kernel showme an error |
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| 19:10.41 | jair | doub, what will be the advantage of separate the /usr from the debian system I mean from / |
| 19:10.49 | doub | jair: you can see the difference on low-end hardware, if you have a single partition for the whole system, it's a bit slow on apt-get upgrades for example |
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| 19:11.11 | jair | doub, nice |
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| 19:11.26 | Tak | is there an easy way to make a package as "hold" with apt? |
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| 19:11.55 | ConneXion | any ideas what the closest to the tty fonts for X is? |
| 19:11.55 | streuner__ | Tak: /msg dpkg hold |
| 19:12.05 | valdyn_ | jair: / if /lib , /sbin and /boot is on it, yes. Howevwer it depends on your backu strategy, i just put everything debian ever touches on 1 partition and back that up with mondo, rest is 'data' i can backup via any other method like rsync. |
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| 19:12.20 | mathieu_ | aptitude hold package |
| 19:12.30 | jair | doub, so the ideal thing will be "/" 5GB swap = 1GB "/home" rest of the hda and the other hdb 250 GB correct? |
| 19:12.34 | PeterB | ConneXion: Fixed ? |
| 19:12.57 | valdyn_ | doub: this should mean 'disks', not partiotions? |
| 19:13.03 | Tak | thanks streuner |
| 19:13.08 | ConneXion | yes |
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| 19:13.10 | ConneXion | but where? |
| 19:13.21 | DamonG | VFS: cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) |
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| 19:14.06 | DamonG | sombody can help me? |
| 19:14.17 | m4lu8 | Probably. |
| 19:14.23 | greycat | DamonG: custom kernel, right? |
| 19:14.30 | afabian | heh. |
| 19:14.33 | doub | valdyn_: the same is true for partitions : the head has less path to make to have similar data |
| 19:14.50 | DamonG | yes |
| 19:14.52 | doub | valdyn_: "locality of reference" is how it's called about databases |
| 19:14.56 | greycat | !custom kernel |
| 19:14.56 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
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| 19:15.06 | Osiris | how can i make sure my nvidia card was recognized correctly and that i can fully do 3d? |
| 19:15.07 | jair | valdyn_, with that scenario, what would be the sizes |
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| 19:15.15 | Tak | perfect! thanks again |
| 19:15.16 | valdyn_ | doub: yea, i understand ( i cant imagine the impact to be large however ) |
| 19:15.19 | greycat | Osiris: glxgears, make sure it's more than 200 FPS |
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| 19:15.29 | greycat | Osiris: also see glxinfo, and read the X logs. |
| 19:15.42 | Osiris | ty greycat |
| 19:15.47 | valdyn_ | jair: which scenario? |
| 19:15.57 | DamonG | with kernel 2.4.27 works correctly |
| 19:16.12 | DamonG | but 2.6.12.3 not works |
| 19:16.19 | valdyn_ | jair: my / is 20G, i use 5.4 of those, and i use more there than any server would ever need. |
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| 19:16.43 | Osiris | synaptic just recently started asking me for my root password as well as my keychain password now.. any idea why? |
| 19:17.03 | ales | wow. grub really rocks. |
| 19:17.12 | eren | hm compiled my own kernel and now it prints: pmouse could not found?!? |
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| 19:17.19 | greycat | !tell eren about custom kernel |
| 19:17.26 | DamonG | the grub is correctly configured |
| 19:17.33 | valdyn_ | jair: so i'd recommend 10 for /, non-debian stuff and /home elsewhere. |
| 19:17.35 | greycat | !works in 2.4 |
| 19:17.36 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
| 19:17.44 | DamonG | yes works |
| 19:17.45 | doub | valdyn_: one example i have here is apt-get getting stuck on "Reading database..." on a unipartition system. the same hw was before partitionned, and never exhibited such slowness |
| 19:17.46 | ales | i like the editing option before you boot :) |
| 19:17.53 | greycat | See also "/msg dpkg 2.6 mouse" |
| 19:18.08 | jair | so no /usr, or is that a fbsd thing? |
| 19:18.20 | greycat | there is a /usr directory |
| 19:18.35 | jair | i know there is, but in debian is it recomended |
| 19:18.38 | greycat | if you're asking whether that should be on a separate partition, that's up to you |
| 19:18.39 | valdyn_ | jair: its my choice, everyone does it diferent. |
| 19:18.40 | SlackER | somebody uses xfce4? |
| 19:18.51 | greycat | some people like /usr to be separate so they can mount it readonly |
| 19:18.53 | highvoltage | SlackER: I use it. |
| 19:19.03 | SlackER | highvoltage, i installed it in my sarge |
| 19:19.08 | doub | jair: the advantage of having /usr on a separate partition is that / is not that big, and as such easy to backup |
| 19:19.09 | SlackER | because somebody told me is good... |
| 19:19.11 | highvoltage | not at this specific moment though, but i regularly do. |
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| 19:19.15 | highvoltage | kewl. |
| 19:19.18 | SlackER | i dont know how to put dark theme |
| 19:19.19 | ConneXion | are the tty fonts unicode by default? |
| 19:19.19 | DamonG | VFS: cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 19:19.19 | DamonG | Please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 19:19.19 | DamonG | Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-blobk(0,0) |
| 19:19.22 | jair | doub, good |
| 19:19.26 | astronut | I am trying to get the wheel mouse side of my laptop touchpad working off a live cd prior to installing linux on it. I found this page (http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#Touchpad) online, but replacing the mouses in xorg.conf with these values did nothing...any one have experienc with this? |
| 19:19.27 | greycat | DamonG: configure it properly this time. |
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| 19:19.45 | greycat | if you used an initrd configuration, make sure you built the initrd image. |
| 19:19.47 | doub | jair: whereas /usr has only binaries, which are usually useless to backup as you only have to apt-get them back |
| 19:19.55 | DamonG | grub its correctly configured |
| 19:20.05 | greycat | s/binaries/standard files/ |
| 19:20.20 | jair | doub, where does apache, samba, and things like that go? |
| 19:20.33 | greycat | apache's document root is /var/www in debian |
| 19:20.35 | valdyn_ | doub: though that might take a multiple of the time that restoring from backup would need.. |
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| 19:20.39 | greycat | configs are in /etc/apache |
| 19:20.42 | MrKeuner | http://code.google.com/patches.html has anybody heard of a debian build for this? |
| 19:20.55 | greycat | samba has a database in /var/lib/samba and configs in /etc/samba |
| 19:20.55 | hid3 | is there any way to force sudo ask for password every time a users tries to use sudo? (let's say I type sudo -s, enter my pass, then logout, login again and when I try sudo -s again, it doesn't ask for password, but gives the shell at once) |
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| 19:21.04 | DamonG | the configuration of the 2.6.12.3 is the same that 2.4.27 |
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| 19:21.11 | DamonG | on the grub |
| 19:21.25 | doub | jair: as usual for a unix system, /etc for config, /usr for binaries, /var for variable data (database, web pages...) |
| 19:21.28 | greycat | DamonG: read the KERNEL config, then. and read "man make-kpkg" and especially read the initrd part. |
| 19:21.34 | greycat | DamonG: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 19:21.43 | randomity | hid3: sudo by default trusts you for 5 minutes. You can change it in /etc/sudoers with visudo |
| 19:21.52 | doub | valdyn_: of course. it then depends if either size or time is important |
| 19:21.53 | jair | doub, i know these things, thanks |
| 19:22.03 | hid3 | aah, didn't knew that :-) thanks anyway |
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| 19:22.17 | doub | jair: maybe i didn't get your question then' |
| 19:22.24 | jasoncohen | peterS, this is strange. i ran make xconfig and changed the architecture from 386 to Athlon/K7 and then rebuild all kernel modules with make modules && make modules_install. ati_remote then loaded properly but i began getting the same problem with tveeprom! |
| 19:22.46 | jasoncohen | i had to re-install kernel-image-2.6.11-1-k7 |
| 19:22.48 | randomity | hid3: Don't edit /etc/sudoers on your own. Use visudo instead. If you want to use a different editor, set the EDITOR var before running visudo |
| 19:22.58 | reda | What is the recommended place to put iptables script? |
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| 19:23.22 | valdyn_ | reda: /etc/init.d/README |
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| 19:23.34 | echnaton | hey what is pmouse ?! |
| 19:23.36 | jair | doub, yeah, dont worry about it, |
| 19:23.42 | DamonG | thanks for all |
| 19:23.45 | DamonG | bye bye |
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| 19:23.48 | greycat | echnaton: how would WE know? it's YOUR custom kernel fuck-up. |
| 19:23.51 | valdyn_ | reda: if are lazy, /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 19:23.52 | valdyn_ | reda: if you are lazy, /msg dpkg rc.local |
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| 19:23.59 | greycat | !debian kernel image |
| 19:23.59 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who compile their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
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| 19:24.26 | green_earz | reda: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:24.42 | nucleuz | Tungtvann |
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| 19:24.45 | nucleuz | oops |
| 19:24.47 | astronut | I am trying to get the wheel mouse side of my laptop touchpad working off a live cd prior to installing linux on it. I found this page (http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#Touchpad) online, but replacing the mouses in xorg.conf with these values did nothing...any one have experience with this? |
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| 19:25.03 | echnaton | greycat shut up you ******** |
| 19:25.04 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a scripting war |
| 19:25.22 | echnaton | nobody asked you |
| 19:25.27 | echnaton | so shut up |
| 19:25.28 | doub | greycat: do you know where the 99 figure is from? my though is more on 5, as some people just want to know better. and often they are debian users (not to mistake for #debian users though) |
| 19:25.40 | valdyn_ | reda: however, its probably better to use one of he gazillion of firewall frameworks in debian |
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| 19:27.10 | doub | greycat: the fact is, however, that we usually never hear about successful kernel compiles in here, so it introduces a serious bias |
| 19:27.20 | greycat | doub: it says "99% of the people *in here*" |
| 19:27.38 | doub | greycat: of course. i red it a bit late, but that doesn't change my point |
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| 19:28.01 | reda | green_earz: do you have more details? |
| 19:28.07 | greycat | doub: I don't know how many silent successes there are. I do know I'm tired of hearing whining from the failures. |
| 19:28.22 | echnaton | so ignore it greycat |
| 19:28.41 | streuner | echnaton: its ok NOW |
| 19:28.50 | echnaton | streuner, NO |
| 19:28.56 | doub | stupid poll: did you ever successfully compile a kernel with kernel-package the debian way? |
| 19:29.00 | echnaton | streuner, du bist deutscher |
| 19:29.16 | greycat | !bad polls |
| 19:29.16 | dpkg | The reasons we hate polls are because: 1) they are a massive waste of IRC and bandwidth and screen real estate when asked in a 700 person channel. Did you want 700 answers? 2) They're often a prelude to isolating one helper and barraging him or her in /msg. BAD! |
| 19:29.28 | doub | greycat: i know, i know, just kidding |
| 19:29.28 | valdyn_ | !debian kernel image |
| 19:29.28 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
| 19:29.29 | streuner | echnaton: du hörst JETZT auf damit. |
| 19:29.34 | valdyn_ | doub: ^^^ |
| 19:29.34 | Osiris | glxgears is running at about 80fps (not 200+), dont know what to make of glxinfo's output. http://pastebin.com/316452 how can i make my system use hardware 3d? |
| 19:29.46 | echnaton | nein streuner sag das greycat der hat damit angefangen! VERSTANDEN |
| 19:29.47 | greycat | Osiris: ask #nvidia |
| 19:29.49 | echnaton | UNVERSCHÄHMTHEIT |
| 19:29.52 | green_earz | reda: just wait i trick some thing down |
| 19:29.54 | greycat | Osiris: or /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner assuming you're on sarge. |
| 19:30.04 | greycat | if you're on sid/xorg, read "/msg dpkg listkeys xorg" |
| 19:30.29 | reda | green_earz: ok |
| 19:30.38 | doub | greycat: what about xen? you need to compile your own Xen patched Linux kernel with debian experimental xen packages ;) |
| 19:30.42 | Osiris | greycat: thanks i am on sarge |
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| 19:31.18 | m4lu8 | Would someone know how to set a client's hostname = dhcp server sends it? |
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| 19:31.28 | greycat | doub: then I guess configuring a linux kernel is the admission price for xen. |
| 19:31.45 | greycat | damned if *I'll* help them with it, though. I have better things to waste time doing. |
| 19:31.48 | m4lu8 | dhcp server is sending out a host name param, but i can't seem to determine what's (not) being done with it. |
| 19:31.55 | Osiris | damn that one liner is the shit! |
| 19:32.20 | Osiris | ty greycat |
| 19:32.34 | doub | greycat: as a debian package, yes. you can also use the pre-compiled multi-os binaries and kernels, but that's just not fun, and even more than that, not done the Debian Way(tm) ;) |
| 19:32.35 | green_earz | reda: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz > 3. running iptables |
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| 19:33.13 | greycat | oh, I see... "not fun" meaning "I didn't have to endure three levels of hell" |
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| 19:33.43 | doub | greycat: that's a bit overreacting, but that's quite like that, yes |
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| 19:34.02 | doub | greycat: i like to know what happens under the hood, but maybe that's just me |
| 19:34.05 | Osiris | i totally agree and i dislike the aura of something needing to be hard. OS X proves it doesnt have to be like that |
| 19:34.18 | rbochan | !macsmite Osiris |
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| 19:34.45 | greycat | yeah, but OS X is BSD based, and BSD kernels Just Work without needing -pre-this and -rc-that and -mm-fooznitz patches |
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| 19:35.09 | echnaton | !tell greycat rules |
| 19:35.21 | Osiris | but bsd feels purerer and more stable.. like the ctrl-alt-del menu in bsd setup |
| 19:35.27 | Osiris | linux would just reboot right |
| 19:35.28 | doub | Osiris: there's a difference between "need to" be hard, and "allows for fancy things, thus requiring you to know better" |
| 19:35.28 | reda | green_earz: thanks; that's what i was looking for |
| 19:35.37 | green_earz | np |
| 19:35.39 | greycat | ctrl-alt-del in linux is handled by a line in /etc/inittab |
| 19:35.44 | PissedTrixBunny | in .bash_profile, I added the line: export PATH=~/bin:"{PATH}" but ~/bin doesn't work.... did I write it correctly? |
| 19:35.50 | greycat | you can configure it to run whatever command you like |
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| 19:35.52 | randomity | Osiris: you can set what ctrl=alt=del does in linux |
| 19:35.58 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: ${PATH} |
| 19:36.04 | greycat | dollar signs are a bit important there. |
| 19:36.15 | Osiris | randomity: shh i'm on an irrational rant. AND LINUX SUCKS! j/k j/k j/k |
| 19:36.22 | doub | Osiris: for example, m$ is really simple on the surface, but try to fix that kind of broken simplicity |
| 19:36.39 | doub | Osiris: and even worse, try to do fancy stuff with it |
| 19:36.45 | Osiris | doub: yea totally i was just saying i like the idea of it being able to be simple and powerful |
| 19:36.47 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I had that in... I just wrote it wrong here.... it still doesn't work |
| 19:37.02 | Osiris | or for it to be as simple as you want it to be |
| 19:37.02 | doub | Osiris: but on being simple, i totally agree |
| 19:37.07 | Eulex | Osiris, simple != powerful |
| 19:37.11 | Osiris | not true |
| 19:37.13 | randomity | Osiris: Ahh, where would we be without irrational ranting. EMACS IS BETTER THAN KDE!!!! GNOME IS BETTER THAN VI!!! |
| 19:37.14 | valdyn_ | PissedTrixBunny: are you trying this from X ? |
| 19:37.18 | Osiris | you can have simple and powerful look at gmail |
| 19:37.24 | PissedTrixBunny | valdyn_, yes. |
| 19:37.35 | Osiris | randomity: GNOME IS BETTER THAN VI! totally. :p lol |
| 19:37.36 | valdyn_ | PissedTrixBunny: and you are using gdm to log in? |
| 19:37.36 | PissedTrixBunny | valdyn_, I'm workin on a terminal |
| 19:37.47 | greycat | if ~ doesn't work then use $HOME like you're supposed to. |
| 19:37.51 | doub | Osiris: that's the same as what larry wall states in the camel book about perl : keeping the simple things simple, and allowing for complex things not to be overly complex |
| 19:37.53 | PissedTrixBunny | valdyn_, yes, I use gdm... but I'm running fluxbox |
| 19:37.58 | valdyn_ | PissedTrixBunny: sure i know, still what im asking matters |
| 19:38.05 | Osiris | doub: i totally feel that |
| 19:38.21 | Osiris | now where's my dro pipe |
| 19:38.25 | valdyn_ | PissedTrixBunny: gdm sets your PATH, for whatever fucked up reason that i do not understand, 'grep PATH /etc/gdm/gdm.conf' |
| 19:38.26 | doub | Osiris: like requiring you to reinvent the wheel because you just want some little extra stuff |
| 19:38.34 | greycat | !wikifaq PissedTrixBunny DotFiles |
| 19:38.35 | dpkg | PissedTrixBunny: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:38.38 | greycat | valdyn_: you too. |
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| 19:39.34 | smo_ | hi i m trying to install domino i have an error in my log about libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 No such file or directory |
| 19:39.34 | Osiris | damn. just at the time i was about to launch a 804 coninection irc flood bot |
| 19:39.35 | cello_rasp | hey is net install for unstable only or can i make edits to point to stable packages? |
| 19:39.37 | smo_ | what can i do? |
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| 19:40.23 | rbochan | cello_rasp: all the recent netinstall ISOs default to stable |
| 19:40.46 | randomity | PissedTrixBunny: try .bashrc instead of bash_profile |
| 19:40.52 | Eulex | smo_, what is domino and how are you trying to install it? |
| 19:40.54 | tech13 | got a new machine (homebrew), and it is fairly unstable, what are some things to run or check to see what part needs returned? (memtest86 says everything is ok) |
| 19:41.07 | X-TRaZy | Need recomm. on which USB WLAN dongle to buy.... |
| 19:41.28 | greycat | my god, that's the second libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 today |
| 19:41.34 | greycat | where are these things *coming* from? |
| 19:41.44 | Eulex | X-TRaZy, any with a natively supported chipset in linux |
| 19:41.45 | rbochan | greycat: your nightmares |
| 19:41.55 | greycat | we need a new "redhat crap" factoid apparently |
| 19:42.03 | X-TRaZy | Eulex: HW-list? URL? |
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| 19:42.10 | greycat | assuming of course anyone manages to track down *this* particular broken C++ library dependency problem. |
| 19:42.32 | Eulex | X-TRaZy, google |
| 19:42.44 | sparr_ | whats the mkXXfs command for FAT32? |
| 19:43.00 | greycat | !find mkfs.vfat sarge |
| 19:43.04 | rbochan | X-TRaZy: there's some sort of hardware list thingie at linuxquestion.org you might have a look at |
| 19:43.18 | rbochan | * linuxquestionS.org |
| 19:43.18 | Osiris | what does this mean? Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 19:43.18 | Osiris | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.19 | Osiris | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.29 | X-TRaZy | rbochan: Ok...thanx...I will loook into it... |
| 19:43.35 | valdyn_ | greycat: i think i just commented out gdm setting the path for me. |
| 19:43.43 | r_marvin | Osiris: the answer is a few lines above those |
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| 19:44.17 | smo_ | i install domino normally like described by ibm... and error about this file libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 not during the setup but when i launch it |
| 19:44.30 | Eulex | X-TRaZy, also, don't buy things listed in the ndiswrapper compatibility list (if they haven't got a native driver, that is, but then I don't see why people would even try to use it with ndiswrapper) |
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| 19:44.48 | Osiris | it says gaim and gaim-extendedprefs are not installed, but they are..i'm using it right now |
| 19:45.40 | greycat | smo_: and did you track that library down? |
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| 19:46.04 | smo_ | can t locate any libstdc++-libc6 in my system |
| 19:46.13 | smo_ | and don t know the package for it |
| 19:46.15 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.15 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:46.29 | greycat | it's found in the oldstable (woody) repository from packages.debian.org |
| 19:46.35 | greycat | have fun. |
| 19:46.38 | smo_ | ok |
| 19:46.44 | smo_ | thanks |
| 19:46.55 | Osiris | what can i do about it saying gaim doesnt exist? |
| 19:46.57 | Osiris | it does |
| 19:47.36 | greycat | dpkg, redhat crap is also ** NEW redhat crap! If you're missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, it's in woody's libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package (get it from oldstable/woody archives since it's obsolete) |
| 19:47.36 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 19:47.40 | greycat | !redhat crap |
| 19:47.40 | dpkg | redhat crap is, like, 'apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1' if you get 'libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file' (get it from woody if you use sarge or sid), or ** NEW redhat crap! If you're missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, it's in woody's libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package (get it from oldstable/woody archives since it's obsolete) |
| 19:48.12 | Osiris | dpkg reminds me of infobot |
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| 19:48.22 | greycat | it's based on infobot's general UI |
| 19:48.25 | astronut | !bot |
| 19:48.25 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 19:49.09 | Osiris | cool |
| 19:49.18 | m4lu8 | Yeeh. |
| 19:49.47 | astronut | so, i'm trying to configure my laptop's touchpad on a live cd, prior to moving to a dual boot...it works ok, except there's a strip down the side that is used as a mouse wheel, based on software mapping... i removed all the mice entreis in xorg.conf and used the stuff here (http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#Touchpad) but it makes no difference...what should i look at to try to change? |
| 19:49.51 | astronut | entries* |
| 19:50.11 | Eulex | astronut, dual boot != debian |
| 19:50.14 | Eulex | umh |
| 19:50.20 | astronut | Eulex: it's a generic linux question |
| 19:50.20 | Eulex | live cd != debian |
| 19:50.23 | greycat | astronut: ask #xorg |
| 19:50.26 | astronut | and i'm a debian user on my other 3 systems |
| 19:50.30 | astronut | greycat: did, the channels idle |
| 19:50.35 | greycat | !they don't know |
| 19:50.35 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 19:50.43 | cello_rasp | can Parted handle FAT32 ? |
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| 19:51.39 | astronut | anyway, the plan is to install debian as the 2nd boot |
| 19:51.42 | afabian | I love that sassy little bot. |
| 19:51.45 | oKtosiTe__ | grrr! I recently moved, and in the bulding I live in now, we have a different provider. One which blacks port 25, I found out after moving my server. They do offer batched smtp, but I'm not sure if that's gonna help, and if so, how to set it up... |
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| 19:51.53 | oKtosiTe__ | blocks even |
| 19:52.27 | Eulex | cello_rasp, why don't rtfm and/or try it out yourself? |
| 19:52.43 | smo_ | greycat i just installed libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 and it s ok |
| 19:52.59 | PissedTrixBunny | !spoonfeed PissedTrixBunny |
| 19:53.00 | dpkg | Silly PissedTrixBunny, Unix tricks are for bots. |
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| 19:53.30 | greycat | oKtosiTe__: ask them. |
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| 19:54.12 | CAiRO | hmm, how can i block / turn off flash for all firefox users at once except for one? |
| 19:54.15 | robert__ | anyone who wants to help me find sid/unstable swedish url for my sources.list? can't find it on google 'hihi' |
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| 19:54.51 | greycat | psycose: without leading spaces. |
| 19:54.58 | rutski89 | This serious scaraes me, its rsyncs default action http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2585909.html#2585909 (its the gentoo forums... but this issue IS occuring on a debian box) |
| 19:55.06 | rutski89 | **seriously |
| 19:55.21 | Eulex | robert__, use apt-setup, and ftp on ftp.du.se is among the fastest (at least for me) |
| 19:55.22 | Slippy | robert__: just use apt-setup |
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| 19:55.29 | a1fa | hi |
| 19:55.42 | robert__ | Eulex: Thx!, mate! |
| 19:55.46 | a1fa | does anybody know of a Virtual Server provider based on Debian? |
| 19:55.52 | robert__ | Slippy: Thx, mate!! |
| 19:55.59 | Eulex | !thx |
| 19:55.59 | CAiRO | hmm, i have like 10 versions of libflashplayer.so installed.. how can i find out which one is the right one? |
| 19:55.59 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 19:56.36 | greycat | rutski89: is it possible to explain what the problem is without forcing me to look up what 6 different switches all mean (one of them being --force)? |
| 19:56.37 | markit | damn, the installer asks me about a cd-rom or a ftp/http source for the rest of the install, but without setting the adsl connection it fails when I choose http |
| 19:56.40 | Sclewin | What is the easiest way to install Debian? |
| 19:56.45 | greycat | !install debian |
| 19:56.46 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 19:57.03 | afabian | rutski89, in what universe is --delete --force a default? They're big, ugly command line switches that stick out like sore thumbs and say "I'm dangeround and I'm telling you up front. Enough rope to hang yourself is enough rope to do something useful." |
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| 19:57.31 | afabian | dangerous, rather |
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| 19:57.46 | Slippy | heh, how many keywords does this bot have? |
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| 19:58.01 | psycose | hi |
| 19:58.02 | ConneXion | okay, is anyone familiar with line-drawing fixes in konsole... some line-drawing characters are not drawn correctly |
| 19:58.03 | Sclewin | ok, thanks |
| 19:58.05 | ConneXion | ? |
| 19:58.09 | greycat | Slippy: a billion |
| 19:58.14 | Eulex | !stats |
| 19:58.14 | dpkg | Since Tue Jul 12 12:29:21 2005, there have been 98 modifications, 4626 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1556 commands. I have been awake for 7d 7h 28m 53s this session, and currently reference 25831 factoids. I'm using about 15960 kB of memory. With 2 active forks. Process time user/system 1597.54/74.56 child 1779.5/139.37 |
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| 19:58.25 | Slippy | greycat: ....reiight |
| 19:58.29 | rutski89 | afabian: heh, --delete tells rsync to do a full sync, makeing the two directories look exactly the same, by _deleting_ any files that exist on the local dir, but not on the host |
| 19:58.30 | a1fa | exit |
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| 19:58.46 | rutski89 | afabian: --force tells --delete to delete directories as well, even if they are not-empty |
| 19:58.57 | resiak | rutski89: Yes. What is your point? |
| 19:58.57 | debianuser | is there a free or comercial software, that can scan a bridge traffic for viruses ? the bridge is runing deb |
| 19:59.03 | Rubin | andy gcc4 packages out for sarge? |
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| 19:59.19 | rutski89 | resiak: --delete really should fail when trying to delete a root:root file as the user rutski89 |
| 19:59.26 | afabian | rutski89, --delete it's not the default. no delete, and any existing files are left there. |
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| 19:59.29 | afabian | it's = is |
| 19:59.40 | Eulex | Rubin, nope |
| 19:59.53 | Jondo | Hi, I'm getting hda: DMA timeout error and ide: failed opcode was: unknown and then my computer locks up, shortly after booting. Is my harddrive fcsked?????? |
| 19:59.53 | resiak | rutski89: You realise that you have to have w on the _directory_ containing the file (and _only_ that) to delete it, right? |
| 20:00.01 | randomity | debianuser: clamav |
| 20:00.06 | rutski89 | afabian: by "default" I meant that the sticky bit, or some weird permissions thing might be set to run rsync with root perms by default |
| 20:00.43 | Eulex | Jondo, may be -- have it worked before? |
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| 20:01.00 | psycose | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.06 | Jondo | Eulex: This is on my main workstation. It started acting funny just last night. |
| 20:01.15 | Eulex | !btssmite spycose |
| 20:01.23 | resiak | psycose: In what way doesn't it work? |
| 20:01.30 | oKtosiTe__ | greycat: Is it tachnically possible? It's after office hours? |
| 20:01.47 | resiak | rutski89: Oh, and is that an Xebian box that I see, not a Debian one? |
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| 20:02.05 | rutski89 | resiak: its just debian for the xbox... |
| 20:02.17 | Eulex | rutski89, it's still not debian |
| 20:02.20 | greycat | oKtosiTe__: only they will know what their service consists of. |
| 20:02.22 | rutski89 | resiak: oh, hmm.. i never knew that; the /home/rutski89/www dir has "drwxr-xr-x rutski89 users", does that give rutski89 the ability to detel root:root files if they are in that dir? |
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| 20:02.29 | rutski89 | Eulex: yea, i guess thats true |
| 20:02.32 | greycat | rutski89: YES!! |
| 20:02.37 | greycat | !wikifaq rutski89 Permissions |
| 20:02.38 | dpkg | rutski89: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 20:02.51 | Eulex | !based on debian |
| 20:02.51 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 20:02.54 | greycat | finally, we know what the issue was. |
| 20:03.01 | resiak | rutski89: No, it's not Debian. And yes, it does. If you don't like that behaviour, you set +t on the directory. |
| 20:03.03 | rutski89 | greycat: thanks :) |
| 20:03.04 | oKtosiTe__ | greycat: their site indicates they know very little altogether... )-: |
| 20:03.22 | psycose | resiak bug 317289, it just failed to create the kdevelop project file ... |
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| 20:03.35 | emfpilot | hello all.... df reports 594mg used on / however du only shows a total of 33mb... all ext3; are there any utilites to fix this? fsck doesn't seem to help |
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| 20:03.38 | rutski89 | resiak: yup, sounds good, thanks for the help :) |
| 20:03.40 | rutski89 | pace |
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| 20:03.48 | rutski89 | **peace |
| 20:03.52 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 20:04.01 | greycat | but if there are join floods from tor, it's going back, lilo :-P |
| 20:04.10 | psycose | resiak, it says CMake Error: Could not create named generator KDevelop3 |
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| 20:04.20 | resiak | psycose: Oh. I don't have a clue, but you should give information when asking a question. |
| 20:04.25 | afabian | Xebian actually looks much more like a modified Debian than an alternative distribution. The repositories, for instance, are the Debian repositories. A couple of custom packages to deal with xbox hardware with "xebian" in the version string, and a few modified config files. |
| 20:04.32 | ConneXion | what kind of encoding does the VGA font in tty terminals use? |
| 20:04.58 | Eulex | ConneXion, whichever you want |
| 20:06.24 | ConneXion | by default? |
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| 20:06.41 | ConneXion | because my line-drawing characters are getting *slightly* better in konsole with ibm850 encoding |
| 20:06.48 | ConneXion | but still not right. |
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| 20:08.18 | cello_rasp | can i run parted when booting netinst from floppy? |
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| 20:10.27 | wsmith | Let's say I have the first three CD-ROMs of sarge. Can I just copy all three CDs to the same directory and use that as an archive? |
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| 20:11.12 | emfpilot | hello all.... df reports 594mg used on / however du only shows a |
| 20:11.12 | emfpilot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.12 | emfpilot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:13.14 | Ipsooo | anyone ever used dmraid? a tool to discover software raid arrays |
| 20:13.31 | pedro420 | anyone have problems with fasttrack in apllon |
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| 20:13.48 | Eulex | !anyone |
| 20:13.48 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 20:13.59 | jayeola | heh |
| 20:14.26 | Ipsooo | where is anyone then? bring him back here :p |
| 20:14.26 | Eulex | please ask your questions instead of "anyone using bleh" |
| 20:14.41 | highvoltage | /nick anyone |
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| 20:15.21 | pedro420 | my fast track does not connect why? |
| 20:15.31 | greycat | ask #gift-fasttrack |
| 20:15.33 | Ipsooo | i'd like to know if someone know about the "no block devices found" error that dmraid throws me |
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| 20:16.21 | resiak | emfpilot: Paste the output of du -shx / and df -h / |
| 20:16.25 | resiak | emfpilot: on a pastesite |
| 20:16.38 | Osiris | pastebin.com is te shiz |
| 20:16.47 | emfpilot | k 1 sec |
| 20:16.59 | Osiris | ernesto, you will be missed |
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| 20:17.24 | Osiris | fine bitches, leave! |
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| 20:18.18 | pedro420 | typed in command brought up nothing abot fasttrack |
| 20:18.32 | cello_rasp | damn, i cannot find up-to-date sarge network install floppy images .. anyone care to help? Downloading a CD image for the net install images defeats the purpose (and no, network dirver boot is not on the credit card image) ;} |
| 20:18.50 | greycat | !d-i |
| 20:18.50 | dpkg | i guess d-i is the new installer for Debian 3.1 (Sarge). You ARE installing Sarge and not Woody, right? See http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer |
| 20:18.53 | Osiris | cello_rasp: man up and get the cd |
| 20:18.55 | greycat | click |
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| 20:19.20 | a1fa | does anybody know a virtual server provider who offers VS on Debian? |
| 20:19.24 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.26 | a1fa | err. Debian VS? |
| 20:19.30 | resiak | pedro420: Join the #gift-fasttrack channel. |
| 20:20.02 | cello_rasp | Osiris, THATS A great, HELPFUL, and RELEVANT suggestion for a network install problem! |
| 20:20.05 | cello_rasp | congrat |
| 20:20.11 | pedro420 | resiak: how do i do that? |
| 20:20.22 | Ipsooo | cello_rasp > what do you mean with up-to-date images? a newer kernel? |
| 20:20.22 | resiak | pedro420: How did you join #debian ? |
| 20:20.23 | Osiris | cello_rasp: i try. thanks. |
| 20:20.27 | greycat | cello_rasp: what's wrong with the floppy images linked from the d-i page? |
| 20:20.29 | cello_rasp | sarge |
| 20:20.48 | cello_rasp | nothing greycat. that's awesome |
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| 20:21.38 | a1fa | i am looking for a debian VSP? |
| 20:21.43 | rbochan | greycat: can you suggest a way to discuss/cal to attention a packaging issue with kde 3.4.1? #debian-kde is a morgue |
| 20:21.52 | PissedTrixBunny | when I connect to my vncserver.... I can only see the gray desktop and an X for a mouse... what did I do wrong? |
| 20:21.57 | greycat | find the debian-kde mailing list |
| 20:22.12 | a1fa | Osiris : dont msg me, please |
| 20:22.24 | rbochan | ok, thanks, I wasn't sure if it was being discussed thwere or not, since 3.4.1 isn't yet "official" |
| 20:22.36 | psycose | ok so a good post would be i had a problem trying to create a new C / CMake based Projects using KDevelop3 on Debian GNU/Linux sarge, debian bug reference #317289 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317289) / not referenced @bugs.kde , it run CMake ./ -GKDevelop3 then CMake Error: Could not create named generator KDevelop3 then ... then *** end with state : 255 ***, see u ;-) |
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| 20:22.53 | Slippy | PissedTrixBunny: maybe you've set it up on the wrong screen |
| 20:22.57 | jeffro | hi |
| 20:23.01 | prodope | how do i make /dev/hdb1 automount on startup ? |
| 20:23.01 | jeffro | i have again... |
| 20:23.05 | jeffro | another problem |
| 20:23.08 | greycat | prodope: man fstab |
| 20:23.10 | Osiris | a1fa: sorry, just trying to help |
| 20:23.11 | jeffro | Prodobe |
| 20:23.17 | jeffro | man fstab |
| 20:23.18 | prodope | greycat: thanks |
| 20:23.22 | jeffro | damn |
| 20:23.25 | jeffro | beat me too it |
| 20:23.35 | nvz | 14 hours later I am finally stablizing :P think I'll spend some vertical time now |
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| 20:23.55 | jeffro | i just inserted a new audio card |
| 20:23.59 | PissedTrixBunny | Slippy, I just use vnc... and it's on :1 |
| 20:24.02 | jeffro | but i dont hear anything |
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| 20:24.07 | nvz | my blood alcohol level is probably still well over the legal limit |
| 20:24.08 | a1fa | Osiris : i want to buy monthly service, |
| 20:24.09 | a1fa | lol |
| 20:24.12 | PissedTrixBunny | Slippy, how do I set it up so that it's on :0? |
| 20:24.14 | a1fa | i am asking if people know |
| 20:24.17 | resiak | !tell jeffro -about enter |
| 20:24.20 | resiak | !faq jeffro |
| 20:24.21 | dpkg | jeffro: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 20:24.24 | Osiris | a1fa: you can pay me. |
| 20:24.44 | rbochan | resiak: and I was just about to tel him about my cat ;) |
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| 20:25.01 | a1fa | hm |
| 20:25.02 | a1fa | idiot |
| 20:25.09 | emfpilot | resiak: what is strange when i play mp3's my root directory seems to get full after a few cd's nothing seems to fix this but a cold boot... So this is why I was searching / to begin with... i can never find any files of real size |
| 20:25.12 | a1fa | dont frustrate me |
| 20:25.20 | a1fa | anybody know of a good vsp provider? |
| 20:25.21 | Osiris | :( |
| 20:25.56 | resiak | emfpilot: Look in /tmp , see if your music player is decoding them to there and not rming them afterwardse |
| 20:25.59 | Osiris | hey a1fa what's the p stand for? |
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| 20:26.34 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: use RFB |
| 20:26.39 | emfpilot | resiak: /tmp is 8.4K and never changes... I did think of that.. I also have 480mb free in /tmp |
| 20:26.50 | PissedTrixBunny | !RFB |
| 20:26.50 | dpkg | well, rfb is Remote FrameBuffer, A simple protocol for sending graphics to be displayed on a remote display. |
| 20:26.56 | prodope | what should the options be in fstab if i'm mounting an ext2 drive? the same as /dev/hda1? |
| 20:27.02 | prodope | errors=remount-ro ? |
| 20:27.08 | theDark | hello everybody, does anyone know, how i could configure a channel in the ircd-hybrid packet, i've already searched, but nothing found...thx |
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| 20:27.14 | PissedTrixBunny | nvz, how do I do that? edit in config file? |
| 20:27.23 | greycat | prodope: 'defaults' |
| 20:27.24 | resiak | emfpilot: Not a clue then. |
| 20:27.35 | a1fa | greycat |
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| 20:27.40 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: RFB is the protocol used in vnc, but the vncserver package actually starts its own xserver, rfb is for use with the x server |
| 20:27.44 | prodope | greycat: dump and pass both 0, i'm guessing? |
| 20:27.46 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: you install RFB |
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| 20:28.10 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: run x0rfbserver instead of xvncserver |
| 20:28.11 | emfpilot | resiak: I figured as much, kinda sucks and kill uptime but O' well. Thanks for you efforts |
| 20:28.21 | Ipsooo | afia > there's redwoodvirtual.com, but i don't know if they're good or not |
| 20:28.31 | Ipsooo | a1fa sorry |
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| 20:28.56 | smo_ | how can i list all programs using port 25 for exemple??? |
| 20:28.58 | PissedTrixBunny | nvz, is it better than vncserver? |
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| 20:29.04 | greycat | smo_: lsof -i :25 |
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| 20:29.16 | smo_ | thanks greycat |
| 20:29.19 | Eulex | !better |
| 20:29.23 | randomity | PissedTrixBunny: Anything to do with VNC is crap. Get NX |
| 20:29.29 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: its completly different. like I said VNC is RFB+an Xserver. RFB is just RFB |
| 20:29.34 | dpkg | i heard better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 20:29.42 | a1fa | Ipsooo : i found that on google.. they are not @ arms legnth |
| 20:29.47 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: xvncserver not only isnt compatible with X it doesnt even require you have X to use it |
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| 20:30.06 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: it starts its own server. RFB is to use one thats running |
| 20:30.18 | randomity | VNC is slow, NX is fast |
| 20:30.23 | Eulex | hmm, dpkg is slow today |
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| 20:30.34 | nvz | maybe he's hungover like me |
| 20:31.15 | nvz | I can wet my tounge with a sip of something.. but my troat has been dry for like 12 hours.. doesnt seem to be any thing I can do about it :P |
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| 20:31.21 | theDark | i have the ircd-hybrid packet installed, can anybody say to me how to create channels there? thx |
| 20:31.32 | resiak | theDark: Its manual? kthxbi |
| 20:32.05 | resiak | nvz: Dry trouts are bad. They normally die. |
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| 20:32.12 | nvz | yeah |
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| 20:32.16 | Lorvija | hi, what's the easiest software to mirror 2 hard drives? so it seems there's only one to the user.. |
| 20:32.30 | jayeola | lvm? |
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| 20:32.45 | Lorvija | jayeola okay thanks, i'll check it out |
| 20:32.46 | Eulex | Lorvija, raid? |
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| 20:33.03 | jayeola | ya, raid |
| 20:33.16 | action09 | hi all hoc can i know if his backport source is not an old one available for woody ? or it is ok for actual sarge.. i know stable is stable and keep.. stable but if the link is 6 months old... please: "deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable all" |
| 20:33.21 | nvz | I'd like to still be asleep but I sense its better for me to be upright and awake |
| 20:33.23 | Lorvija | hmm program called "raid" or just raid..? (: |
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| 20:33.29 | nvz | at least for awhile |
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| 20:34.06 | jeffro | if you apt-get a source file where will it be? |
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| 20:34.16 | peterS | jeffro: 'apt-get source' goes to current directory |
| 20:34.21 | jeffro | ok |
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| 20:34.36 | peterS | jeffro: it doesn't require root, just write access to current dir |
| 20:34.38 | resiak | action09: Why not ask http://www.backports.org/ ? |
| 20:34.44 | jeffro | ok |
| 20:34.55 | jeffro | but with installing im always root |
| 20:35.03 | PissedTrixBunny | Slippy, do I need to keep the vncserver package installed or can I just remove it after I got rfb installed? |
| 20:35.04 | jeffro | i need source says the WIKI |
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| 20:35.23 | Hohlraum | hey guys.. i have several servers i need to build with varying x86 hardware .. i was thinking about just doing a netinstall with one and then creating an internal mirror to do a netinstall locally with the rest. is there a guide to doing this somewhere? |
| 20:35.28 | greycat | action09: check the dependencies against what your sarge box has |
| 20:36.05 | action09 | greycat, how ? |
| 20:36.08 | action09 | please |
| 20:36.43 | valdyn_ | Hohlraum: doesnt sound like you need a complete mirrors, look at apt-proxy probably. |
| 20:36.59 | PissedTrixBunny | do I need to keep vncserver package after I installed rfb package? |
| 20:37.07 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: nope |
| 20:37.17 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: not unless you need vnc |
| 20:37.54 | PissedTrixBunny | nvz, other vnc client will be able to "vnc" into my computer with x0rfbserver on? |
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| 20:37.57 | greycat | action09: the dependencies aren't listed on the page itself? |
| 20:38.05 | nvz | PissedTrixBunny: yes |
| 20:38.09 | greycat | action09: give us a URL so we have some clue what you're looking at |
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| 20:38.28 | action09 | greycat, ah ok i can d/l a .deb and look in it ? http://www.apt-get.org/list/?site=609 |
| 20:38.58 | greycat | ugh... there's a lot on that page. |
| 20:39.12 | action09 | :) |
| 20:39.16 | DeDeDeDah | I am new to Debian. What source files should I download from www.kernel.org for the stable version of Sarge? |
| 20:39.18 | greycat | which package are you *actually* trying to get? |
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| 20:39.30 | greycat | DeDeDeDah: what's wrong with the kernel you have now? |
| 20:39.30 | FieldySnuts | DeDeDeDah: use debians precompiled kernels |
| 20:39.38 | action09 | greycat, amule :) |
| 20:40.01 | DeDeDeDah | greycat: ACPI support is not enabled. |
| 20:40.07 | hyde | PissedTrixBunny: i've found x11vnc to perform better than rfb |
| 20:40.08 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, it is |
| 20:40.21 | greycat | action09: hmm, ok. not in sarge. I guess what you'll have to do is add the source to your sources.list, then apt-get update, then "apt-cache show amule". |
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| 20:40.29 | Hohlraum | valdyn_: how will that help increase the speed of the installs thought? .. does the debian installer support keeping all downloaded packages on the server? |
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| 20:40.46 | action09 | greycat, and look for the dependencies ? |
| 20:40.55 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I am using 2.2.27-2-386 |
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| 20:41.01 | bungopolis | ssh logging seems to be off by default, but I cant find anywhere to enable it? |
| 20:41.19 | DeadZed | How can I make a backup of my debian on ext3 .. to be copied to fat32 and then back on ext3 again after resize/format ? |
| 20:41.23 | peterS | Hohlraum: not for the first stage of the install. but yes, after that. for the first stage, you want to use a 'netinst' CD, not the 'businesscard' or smaller images, because the netinst has enough on it not to need to download stuff for the first stage |
| 20:41.29 | DeadZed | tar doesnt seem to work |
| 20:41.42 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: When I try installing the ACPI ulility it gives me a message that ACPI is not enabled in the kernel. |
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| 20:42.04 | Hohlraum | peterS: thats still a lot of re-downloading over the internet. |
| 20:42.11 | peterS | DeadZed: no need to reformat on resize. if you can manage to unmount everything related to the disk in question (perhaps booting a live CD), you can just run 'parted' |
| 20:42.17 | DeadZed | Hohlraum netinstall takes about 2 hours on 125 kbps adls |
| 20:42.39 | DeadZed | peterS I need to make my current debian part bigger |
| 20:42.45 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Any ideas? |
| 20:42.52 | action09 | greycat, thanks for the help :) |
| 20:43.00 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: tasso Phated |
| 20:43.00 | DeadZed | so .. backup debian and then back after resize |
| 20:43.00 | dpkg | Phated: tasso tasso tasso tasso fungo fungo serpento! serpento! |
| 20:43.02 | DeDeDeDah | On shutdown my computer does not turn off. |
| 20:43.10 | FieldySnuts | hit the power button, then. geez |
| 20:43.13 | peterS | Hohlraum: not at all. you download the netinst CD once. you install it on the first box. the latter stages of this install downloads other crap. you tell it not to delete this. then you install 'apt-proxy' or 'apt-cacher' (if the latter, you also need apache). |
| 20:43.20 | DeadZed | DeDeDeDah kick it with all your strgth |
| 20:43.31 | DeadZed | strngth* |
| 20:43.33 | DeDeDeDah | FieldySnuts: I need it to turn off. |
| 20:43.43 | DeadZed | pull out the cord |
| 20:43.45 | nvz | can I buy a vowel? |
| 20:43.47 | DeadZed | and kick it as well |
| 20:43.47 | FieldySnuts | then push the power button |
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| 20:43.51 | peterS | Hohlraum: then you migrate your downloaded packages from /var/cache/apt/archives/ into the apt-proxy world |
| 20:43.54 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, then upgrade your kernel to something newer -- btw, what are you running? potato? woody? |
| 20:43.57 | DeadZed | yea .. and then push poer too |
| 20:43.57 | peterS | Hohlraum: then on your other machines you use the same netinst CD, and when it comes time to pick the debian mirror, you use your apt-proxy installation |
| 20:43.58 | FieldySnuts | when it says "power off" or something |
| 20:44.12 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: 2.2.27-2-386 |
| 20:44.16 | nvz | haha |
| 20:44.18 | FieldySnuts | i have to all the time, can't use acpi / apm or whatever on an smp system |
| 20:44.23 | Hohlraum | peterS: so you can tell it not to delete the packages it downloads.. good.. thats all I needed to know.. just as long as it doesn't redownload stuff from the mirrors for the other netinstalls |
| 20:44.25 | FieldySnuts | good lord |
| 20:44.29 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, that was not what I was asking |
| 20:44.31 | FieldySnuts | yes, get used to hitting the power button |
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| 20:44.34 | FieldySnuts | !hack DeDeDeDah |
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| 20:45.04 | DeadZed | peterS do you make backups ? |
| 20:45.07 | peterS | Hohlraum: right. I can't give you a step-by-step for that, because it's been awhile since I've installed sarge |
| 20:45.10 | PissedTrixBunny | nvz, is rfb secure? |
| 20:45.15 | peterS | DeadZed: very infrequently, unfortunately |
| 20:45.21 | DeadZed | uhhh .. #debian is mad .. as always |
| 20:45.22 | DeDeDeDah | FieldySnuts: I need it to work or I will switch to Fedora. |
| 20:45.30 | cougar` | HEllo everyone |
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| 20:45.43 | PissedTrixBunny | !spoonfeed myself |
| 20:45.44 | dpkg | Silly myself, Unix tricks are for bots. |
| 20:45.52 | PissedTrixBunny | clear |
| 20:45.54 | hyde | PissedTrixBunny: not really |
| 20:45.54 | DeadZed | DeDeDeDah were all scared .. dont threaten so harshly |
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| 20:46.05 | FieldySnuts | DeDeDeDah: we give a shit. you're using an ANCIENT kernel, this is YOUR fault not the distro. |
| 20:46.06 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, there are much newer debian stock kernels. you should upgrade. and are you on potato or woody, or something like that? |
| 20:46.09 | DeDeDeDah | DeadZed: I was teaseing :) |
| 20:46.10 | PissedTrixBunny | hyde, safer than vncserver? |
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| 20:46.22 | hyde | PissedTrixBunny: i don't think so, neither is very secure |
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| 20:46.31 | cougar` | Question : What should happen when I hit the Power Button on the front of the case with Linux Debian installed. Will it Shutoff Immed, Start a Shutdown Sequence, or do nothing? |
| 20:46.40 | hyde | PissedTrixBunny: read up on ssh port forwarding for some sort of security |
| 20:46.49 | DeadZed | do nothing |
| 20:46.55 | DeadZed | no .. shutdown |
| 20:46.58 | DeadZed | sorry :) |
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| 20:47.05 | cougar` | If the power button is held, it should shut off, right? |
| 20:47.11 | cougar` | Wait |
| 20:47.13 | peterS | cougar`: if you've got ACPI kernel modules loaded, I think it starts a shutdown sequence. if you don't, I think it does nothing unless you hold it down for 4 seconds |
| 20:47.16 | FieldySnuts | hold it for four seconds yes |
| 20:47.19 | shimano55 | Question, Does anyone know how to set-up grip for mp3encode, cause im using the grip default, but when I try to encode it says that the encoder executable is invalid. |
| 20:47.26 | Hohlraum | i was impressed as hell by freebsd 6beta.. i hit the power button during the installer and it asked me if i really wanted to stop the install :) |
| 20:47.35 | cougar` | PEterS : Is there anyway I could find that information out? |
| 20:47.35 | peterS | Hohlraum: oh, nice |
| 20:47.36 | hyde | having it actually power down is useful though |
| 20:47.37 | FieldySnuts | that is NOT a clean shutdown unless you told the system to shut down, and you got to "power off" or whatever |
| 20:47.48 | FieldySnuts | freebsd is great |
| 20:47.56 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I have no idea what I used. Seriously :(. I just used the network install disk. |
| 20:47.56 | PissedTrixBunny | !faq |
| 20:47.57 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 20:48.44 | DeadZed | FieldySnuts alot of distros dont shut down all the way , yes |
| 20:48.48 | DeadZed | dunno why |
| 20:48.52 | Hohlraum | i'm actually using a firewall project called pfSense that is based on freebsd.. other than the freebsd cdloader not liking usb cdrom drives (all my linux install cd's didn't have a problem with it) .. its been pretty neat.. its based on monowall. its a pretty amazing firewall. very professional. |
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| 20:49.12 | yanqi | hi |
| 20:49.33 | DeadZed | ANYONE !!!!!!!!! how do I friggin backup my ext3 debian so that I can get it back after resize ????? |
| 20:49.40 | cougar` | peterS : How do I check if I have ACPI kernel modules? |
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| 20:49.47 | peterS | cougar`: lsmod |
| 20:49.49 | r_marvin | DeadZed: cp -av |
| 20:49.51 | DeadZed | and dont tell me just "tar" |
| 20:49.54 | FieldySnuts | !stfu DeadZed |
| 20:49.54 | DeadZed | yea |
| 20:49.55 | dpkg | SHUT THE FUCK UP DeadZed! |
| 20:49.58 | r_marvin | -x , sorry |
| 20:49.59 | hyde | DeadZed: cpio? |
| 20:50.01 | DeadZed | what about permissions |
| 20:50.18 | cougar` | I see nothing mentioning ACPI |
| 20:50.20 | r_marvin | cp -ax should work just fine, or tar-cpf |
| 20:50.21 | DeadZed | if youre such friggin admins .. dont you do backups |
| 20:50.21 | peterS | DeadZed: fat32 won't store permissions so you *have* to use tar or cpio or star or one of those things |
| 20:50.29 | DeadZed | yea |
| 20:50.29 | FieldySnuts | use rsync -avD to copy it somewhere else, it's more careful about permissions etc |
| 20:50.35 | DeadZed | so how do I use tar |
| 20:50.38 | DeadZed | I used |
| 20:50.43 | FieldySnuts | DeadZed: yes, ever 4 hours in fact. we also help people who are not asshats |
| 20:50.47 | Eulex | DeadZed, RTFM |
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| 20:50.58 | DeadZed | tar cpf debian-backup.tar / --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/proc/ --exclude=/tmp/ exclude=/lost+found/ exclude=/sys/ |
| 20:51.02 | cougar` | peterS : I don't have ACPI ... damn |
| 20:51.06 | DeadZed | Eulex RTFM |
| 20:51.10 | DeadZed | RTFM google.copm |
| 20:51.11 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: My first question was where I download the latest kernel source to compile a kernel. I have the instructions for compiling the kernel, but don't know what source to use. |
| 20:51.16 | r_marvin | DeadZed: also check out -l |
| 20:51.22 | FieldySnuts | DeadZed: and you wonder why you aren't getting too much help here. |
| 20:51.29 | Hohlraum | cougar: apm should work.. is it an SMP box? |
| 20:51.39 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: It devolved into the other questions. |
| 20:51.42 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, you don't need to compile any kernel |
| 20:51.43 | DeadZed | why dont tar cpf debian-backup.tar / --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/proc/ --exclude=/tmp/ exclude=/lost+found/ exclude=/sys/ work ?? |
| 20:51.56 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I want to :) |
| 20:52.08 | FieldySnuts | Eulex: we've tried to tell him that at least 3 times, he's not able to comprehend, or doesn't care |
| 20:52.09 | hyde | you're missing some double dashes on the last two excludes? |
| 20:52.25 | peterS | DeadZed: instead of all the --exclude, try --one-file-system |
| 20:52.49 | DeadZed | exactly? |
| 20:52.52 | peterS | DeadZed: also, if you output a tarfile to the current directory, it will tar itself up recursively. using --one-file-system or --exclude properly will prevent this |
| 20:53.08 | FieldySnuts | don't even use tar, use rsync, but not that I know what I'm talking about after doing this for 8 years |
| 20:53.10 | DeadZed | why cant it do recursively |
| 20:53.15 | DeDeDeDah | FieldySnuts: Ok, how do I have the assurance that the SATA devices will be referenced the same way in the upgraded kernel? |
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| 20:53.36 | Hohlraum | deadzed: it'll try to store itself in itself is all he meant :) |
| 20:53.47 | DeDeDeDah | FieldySnuts: How do I make sure I can recover if the SATA devices are referenced in a different way? |
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| 20:53.52 | peterS | DeadZed: also, hyde has a point. if you *do* want to use --exclude, make sure you spell it --exclude (: |
| 20:53.54 | DeadZed | so how do I use rsync then .. dont tell me to read man .. cause 14 y.o punks tell me to read man tar all the time |
| 20:54.07 | zimnyx | do you know some GUI linux FTP client (gftp is really shit) |
| 20:54.21 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, you don't "upgrade" kernels, you install a new one along with the old one |
| 20:54.21 | peterS | DeadZed: 'rsync -ax / /mnt/fat32fs' but that will just copy your filesystem as-is, so you have the permissions problem |
| 20:54.23 | DeadZed | peterS well .. i must exclude some dirs , right |
| 20:54.26 | hyde | DeadZed: those are preeety smart 14 year olds then |
| 20:54.37 | Eulex | zimnyx, gftp-gtk rules imho |
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| 20:54.50 | DeadZed | hyde you can read man linux and linux admins bible |
| 20:54.58 | cougar` | Well |
| 20:55.06 | distempr | I'm a 14 year old genius. man rsync |
| 20:55.11 | cougar` | I'm back |
| 20:55.13 | cougar` | I hit the power button and OFF IT WENT! |
| 20:55.21 | zimnyx | Eulex: gftp has fucked up interface, really sucks. |
| 20:55.22 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Yes, however will not the new kernel, when installed, run some configuration scripts to complete the install that renames the devices? |
| 20:55.23 | cougar` | Fricken turned off imediately! |
| 20:55.28 | hyde | DeadZed: i can read alot of things |
| 20:55.29 | cougar` | WHICH really sucked |
| 20:55.42 | distempr | cougar`: isn't that the desired effect? |
| 20:55.42 | DeadZed | hyde please go read then :) |
| 20:56.01 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I am trying to listen. |
| 20:56.07 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, why should it?? |
| 20:56.11 | cougar` | No : I woulda either liked it to do nothing, or start a shutdown sequence |
| 20:56.12 | hyde | DeadZed: i'm not the one asking for help am i? |
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| 20:56.20 | DeadZed | peterS what about permissions with rsync -ax / /mnt/fat32fs |
| 20:56.31 | DeadZed | hyde please stop spamming |
| 20:56.38 | r_marvin | DeadZed: that's pretty good advice, you know? after 7 years of linux, i still read man pages regularly |
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| 20:56.40 | hyde | smirk |
| 20:56.45 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Dunno .. I just know the last time I added a more recent kernel it could not find the SATA drive. |
| 20:56.52 | DeadZed | r_marvin Im soo happy for you |
| 20:56.53 | peterS | DeadZed: rsync is like cp, it just copies files. it'll preserve permissions but the FAT filesystem won't |
| 20:57.00 | DeDeDeDah | And I tried to boot using the old recovery kernel. |
| 20:57.02 | hyde | DeadZed: keep in mind rsync won't help much unless you're backing up to another filesystem that can hold the permissions |
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| 20:57.11 | DeadZed | if youre so smart maybe you can tell me how to back up ext3 then please |
| 20:57.21 | r_marvin | on fat32? |
| 20:57.24 | DeDeDeDah | DeadZed: With a tape drive :) |
| 20:57.26 | r_marvin | use tar |
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| 20:57.29 | distempr | DeadZed: man tar |
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| 20:57.35 | hyde | distempr: heh |
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| 20:57.41 | jasoncohen | DeadZed, just tar the damn thing |
| 20:57.41 | DeadZed | yea ,.,.,,, I wil go and buy a tape drive and use tar |
| 20:57.46 | hyde | distempr: he's got trouble reading it seems |
| 20:57.46 | DeadZed | thsnks a lot |
| 20:57.54 | r_marvin | man tar, with close attention to -c , -f, -p and -l |
| 20:57.59 | DeadZed | jasoncohen how? |
| 20:58.02 | DeadZed | smart ass |
| 20:58.04 | outlaw84 | can I hope to get macromedia shockwave to work i firefox under debian? |
| 20:58.09 | r_marvin | and be more polite next time |
| 20:58.16 | distempr | hyde: yep. I'm pretty lazy myself, but he's ridiculous. This is why people in #debian get pissed I assume ;) |
| 20:58.17 | bungopolis | outlaw84: thre is no shockwave forf linux, but flash will work fine |
| 20:58.18 | jasoncohen | DeadZed, tar czvf backup.tar.gz /home/ |
| 20:58.18 | jeffro | hello |
| 20:58.20 | jasoncohen | for example |
| 20:58.22 | DeDeDeDah | DeadZed: Wait a minute now, jason is not the smart ass, I am! |
| 20:58.27 | DeadZed | tahts what I did |
| 20:58.33 | jasoncohen | DeadZed, or tar czvf backup.tar.gz / |
| 20:58.36 | r_marvin | outlaw84: you can hope, but it's an ampty hope :( |
| 20:58.39 | DeadZed | tar cpf debian-backup.tar / --exclude=/mnt/ --exclude=/proc/ --exclude=/tmp/ exclude=/lost+found/ exclude=/sys/ |
| 20:58.39 | hyde | distempr: heh, there's tons of literature out there on backing up... i don't know what the problem is |
| 20:58.41 | jeffro | is there any other way then running qsynth/ fluidsynth to get my midi working |
| 20:58.51 | DeDeDeDah | I do appreciate the help I really do. |
| 20:58.52 | yanqi | i heard that debian was painful to configure ? is it "as hard" to maintain as bsds ? easier ? tougher ? |
| 20:58.57 | peterS | DeadZed: *or* ... create a unix filesystem on top of your FAT one, and use that |
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| 20:59.01 | r_marvin | DeadZed: exclude uses -- |
| 20:59.04 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, new kernels do not "rename" device names, though they may have other names for the same devices -- try /dev/sdX instead of /dev/hdX |
| 20:59.09 | outlaw84 | damn it! evertime I fix some need i linux the others in the house find some shit that doesn't work! |
| 20:59.13 | cougar` | Channel : So, anyway I can get Debian to either shutdown -h now when I hit the PowerButton, or totally ignore it? I'm pretty sure the BIOS is set for a delay |
| 20:59.13 | DeadZed | madhouse |
| 20:59.15 | jasoncohen | DeadZed, i have a simple script that backs up my /home and /etc directories every night as a cron job and i just use tar |
| 20:59.22 | hyde | DeadZed: the double dashes on the last two excludes are still missing in your command |
| 20:59.26 | DeadZed | crazy friggin geeks |
| 20:59.27 | cougar` | Channel : I'm goin' to confirm the BIOS in a second |
| 20:59.27 | peterS | DeadZed: like this: dd bs=1M count=4000 < /dev/zero > /mnt/fat32/backup.img |
| 20:59.29 | jasoncohen | tar & date |
| 20:59.31 | distempr | DeDeDeDah: use udev, it's quite excellent in retaining the /dev structure. |
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| 20:59.39 | jasoncohen | DeadZed, would you like to see my backup script? |
| 20:59.41 | distempr | hyde: yep, man perl, man bash which ever. |
| 20:59.54 | peterS | DeadZed: then losetup /dev/loop0 /mnt/fat32/backup.img |
| 20:59.57 | DeadZed | jasoncohen yes, plese ,,, though google is full of them |
| 21:00.00 | peterS | DeadZed: then mke2fs /dev/loop0 |
| 21:00.03 | jeffro | Is there a midi player with a built-in software synthesizer |
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| 21:00.14 | peterS | DeadZed: then mkdir /mnt/backup; mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/backup |
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| 21:00.20 | peterS | DeadZed: then just cp -ax / /mnt/backup |
| 21:00.24 | peterS | DeadZed: then umount /mnt/backup |
| 21:00.28 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I should rephrase, the source for the kernel does not reference the device by the same name. :) |
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| 21:00.39 | DeadZed | peterS Thanks .. I try :) |
| 21:00.40 | cougar` | Channel : Since the computer immediately turned off the computer, I seriously hope it didn't corrupt anything. |
| 21:00.47 | peterS | DeadZed: the bs=1M count=4000 at the beginning means approximately 4 GB. adjust as needed |
| 21:00.50 | kittiy | hi |
| 21:00.53 | distempr | peterS: You have more patience than I do. And I'm a nub. |
| 21:00.57 | resiak | !nub |
| 21:01.02 | resiak | :-\ |
| 21:01.05 | peterS | DeadZed: end result: a whole filesystem image in a file on your fat32 partition |
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| 21:01.11 | jeffro | !noob |
| 21:01.11 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
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| 21:01.30 | distempr | :o How insulting. |
| 21:01.38 | DeadZed | peterS how do I get it back? |
| 21:01.38 | kl1_ | hi i dont know how to execute a shell in fluxbox.. |
| 21:01.40 | jeffro | ypu it is :P |
| 21:01.47 | distempr | Heheh. |
| 21:01.51 | resiak | kl1_: Right-click and pick one from the menu. |
| 21:01.56 | kittiy | anyone wont to talk to me |
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| 21:02.08 | DeadZed | peterS with losetup I get it back again ? |
| 21:02.08 | jeffro | now does anyone knows if there's a midi player with built-in software synthesizer |
| 21:02.09 | peterS | DeadZed: after booting from your CD media or whatever... mount the fat32 on say /mnt/fat32. mount the new ext3 fs on say /mnt/root. then..... |
| 21:02.11 | resiak | !tell kittiy -about ask |
| 21:02.13 | kl1_ | resiak there is the menu, but i doesnt work.. |
| 21:02.15 | peterS | DeadZed: right, or you can shortcut: |
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| 21:02.21 | resiak | !doesn't work |
| 21:02.21 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 21:02.26 | cougar` | PeterS : Any ideas? |
| 21:02.28 | peterS | DeadZed: mount -o loop /mnt/fat32/backup.img /mnt/my_old |
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| 21:02.31 | DeadZed | peterS I need to read all that again |
| 21:02.32 | ghee | why is it, that after I have upgraded to debian 3.1 aka sarge, my performance with samba is a lot bader than before? everything is installed correctly. the nic is set to full duplex, even the same config for samba is in use.... |
| 21:02.33 | eka | hi all |
| 21:02.39 | jeffro | hi |
| 21:02.39 | peterS | DeadZed: the -o loop makes 'mount' run the losetup thing for you automatically |
| 21:02.42 | jeffro | now does anyone knows if there's a midi player with built-in software synthesizer |
| 21:02.44 | kittiy | resiak what |
| 21:02.53 | eka | when my machine boots.... it says ... freeing kernel memory ... and freezes |
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| 21:02.59 | peterS | DeadZed: if you can scroll up it's all in there. if that's problematic I can repeat it in privmsg or something |
| 21:03.03 | shingouz | !ask |
| 21:03.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic (sicco)! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 21:03.03 | resiak | kittiy: Do you have a question for the channel? If so ask it. |
| 21:03.08 | shingouz | kittiy: ^^^ |
| 21:03.16 | jeffro | am i ignored....... |
| 21:03.17 | DeadZed | damn ... .. are you all americans here ? .. everyone is shouting at the same time man |
| 21:03.21 | peterS | heh |
| 21:03.26 | jeffro | looks like ive been voiced |
| 21:03.29 | jeffro | xD |
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| 21:03.39 | action09 | wha do i need to select for 'MLDonkey core' in kmldonkey please ? |
| 21:04.08 | jeffro | i really am voiced XD omg |
| 21:04.08 | peterS | hmmmm, I was pondering getting a shower just now, then I saw a lightning strike about half a second before the thunder |
| 21:04.09 | kittiy | shingouz what is it with resiak |
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| 21:04.19 | resiak | ... |
| 21:04.26 | kittiy | .... |
| 21:04.30 | resiak | *plonk* |
| 21:04.31 | jeffro | ........ |
| 21:04.37 | shingouz | kittiy: the same as with me. if you have a question, ask away. do not ask to ask |
| 21:04.40 | kittiy | me |
| 21:04.59 | jeffro | now does anyone knows if there's a midi player with built-in software synthesizer |
| 21:05.04 | kittiy | what i dont get it |
| 21:05.05 | peterS | jeffro: timidity |
| 21:05.12 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Ok, what kernel should I add? |
| 21:05.12 | jeffro | ok |
| 21:05.16 | jeffro | il try that one |
| 21:05.17 | Eulex | !tell jeffro about repeat |
| 21:05.19 | peterS | jeffro: it does require a set of patches, which at one time none were available as free software |
| 21:05.20 | mngrif | hey, uh, there's an editor out there that is written in ASM that emulates like 3 other editors while keeping below 100KB... anyone know the name of what i'm talking about? |
| 21:05.27 | eka | i'm getting ... freeing kernel memory when booting and frezees there |
| 21:05.27 | peterS | jeffro: I can't recall whether that situation has improved |
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| 21:05.31 | shingouz | kittiy: do you have a question you want to ask? |
| 21:05.32 | eka | any idea how to fix? |
| 21:05.38 | eka | using woody with grub |
| 21:05.40 | resiak | mngrif: Why not search for "small editor" |
| 21:05.40 | DeDeDeDah | EUlex: Apparently I need to add a later kernel. I appreciate your help. |
| 21:05.46 | DeadZed | ehh .. #debian will always be #debian :( |
| 21:05.46 | resiak | !tell eka -about enter |
| 21:05.48 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, 2.6.8 or 2.6.11 |
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| 21:05.54 | peterS | jeffro: (by 'set of patches', I mean the midi voice samples) |
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| 21:05.58 | jeffro | peters: you talking about soundfonts |
| 21:06.00 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Thank you very much |
| 21:06.01 | peterS | yeah |
| 21:06.06 | kittiy | how do udo the icos |
| 21:06.18 | jeffro | but i dont want to use qsynth/fluidsynth all the time |
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| 21:06.27 | kittiy | faces |
| 21:06.29 | peterS | jeffro: it can use Gravis Ultrasound patches, and it did, until someone noticed that Gravis had never given anyone permission to distribute these.... (: |
| 21:06.30 | mngrif | resiak: i've already googled just about everything, otherwise i wouldn't be asking in a channel that tells everyone to google everything |
| 21:06.31 | jeffro | its annoying to start 3 programs to listen to a midi |
| 21:06.31 | SigmaX | Hey; uh, how do I go about reinstalling not only a package, but it's config files? I really messed up my cyrus settings, and wanna start over from scratch. |
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| 21:06.43 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, 2.6.8 exists in the sarge apt repo, if you run etch, you get 2.6.11 too |
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| 21:06.50 | shingouz | kittiy: a bit more information on the channel, what icons, what faces, on what? where? |
| 21:06.55 | nvz | SigmaX: purge it with apt-get --purge remove |
| 21:06.56 | jeffro | i have a really good soundfont |
| 21:06.59 | mngrif | SigmaX: you 'purge' a package instead of uninstalling it |
| 21:07.05 | Eulex | jeffro, get a better one |
| 21:07.09 | peterS | jeffro: well, I don't know what formats timidity supports. you'll have to look into it |
| 21:07.19 | jeffro | strange i thuaht ensoniq had a hardware synth |
| 21:07.25 | SigmaX | nvz: Thanx... I've used Debian for over a year bud hadn't figured that out... :-P |
| 21:07.25 | Frozen-Solid | is there an easy way to make a mpg123 playlist from a huge directory of mp3s with subdirectories and whatnot? |
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| 21:07.43 | nvz | SigmaX: keep in mind though its against debian package policy to remove or modify a users configs in any way... so this doesnt effect your configs in your homedir |
| 21:07.44 | jeffro | frozensolid: better use rythmbox |
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| 21:07.46 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I will use 2.6.8 |
| 21:07.47 | SuperTony | wei |
| 21:07.56 | mngrif | Frozen-Solid: find ./ -name "*mp3" > playlist |
| 21:07.57 | kittiy | tht on sigmax just did one |
| 21:08.05 | jeffro | rytmhbox has a really good library |
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| 21:08.17 | kittiy | that |
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| 21:08.20 | zero-1 | hello |
| 21:08.23 | Frozen-Solid | <jeffro> frozensolid: better use rythmbox <- 1) why exactly? 2) is it commandline based? |
| 21:08.25 | kittiy | hi |
| 21:08.26 | nvz | I like amarok better.. its quicker at indexing and WAY more featureful |
| 21:08.27 | zero-1 | i have a question |
| 21:08.42 | kittiy | what |
| 21:08.48 | kl1_ | any good video player? |
| 21:08.59 | kittiy | i am |
| 21:09.00 | jeffro | Cause it has a library where you can sort it out and add everything in one time and it is not commandline based |
| 21:09.01 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, you may want to try 2.6.11 too, 2.6.8 has problems with some scsi controllers |
| 21:09.09 | resiak | mngrif: I was meaning use apt-cache search, but I can't find anything that looks like what you're talking about |
| 21:09.11 | Eulex | !tell kittiy about repeat |
| 21:09.12 | zero-1 | im trying to start aftersteo under debian woody 3.0 r5 on ppc, and it says i have to set up my local by using -L |
| 21:09.13 | sean_micken|work | i would like to build my own packages (right now i wish to build a "dspam" package) -- could someone point me to a good tutorial on doing this? |
| 21:09.18 | Frozen-Solid | jeffro: i need a commandline based one -- i dont have access to x |
| 21:09.19 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: do you need something that is command-line? I know of curses based that will run on console.. but command-line you may need to use mpd and a cli client |
| 21:09.20 | zero-1 | what do i have todo |
| 21:09.20 | SuperTony | join |
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| 21:09.23 | kittiy | what |
| 21:09.24 | jeffro | why not |
| 21:09.24 | zero-1 | im kind of lost |
| 21:09.32 | peterS | jeffro: hmmm. timidity "Uses Gravis Ultrasound compatible patch files and SoundFont2 patch files as the voice data for MIDI instruments" |
| 21:09.40 | resiak | nvz: Yay, mpd! |
| 21:09.46 | Frozen-Solid | cuz i'm running it on a box that doesnt have full graphics drivers for it yet? |
| 21:09.47 | jeffro | ok pters |
| 21:09.50 | kittiy | euelx what |
| 21:09.54 | shingouz | kittiy: what client are you using? |
| 21:09.55 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: command-line means like bash.. type a command get a response.. there are UI's on the console that are not command-line |
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| 21:10.08 | monk | can someone help me |
| 21:10.16 | kittiy | what |
| 21:10.24 | shingouz | monk: not unless you ask the question |
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| 21:10.33 | Eulex | !tell kittiy about nicktab |
| 21:10.44 | Frozen-Solid | nvz: okay well then whatever the correct term is: i need one that doesn't need x or any kinda visual output aside from a standard console |
| 21:10.47 | kittiy | euelx what |
| 21:11.01 | jeffro | wow timidity is hard... |
| 21:11.01 | monk | ../lib/libresolv.so.2 << what package include this file? |
| 21:11.04 | resiak | Frozen-Solid: cplay, or mpd and nmpc |
| 21:11.05 | shingouz | kittiy: what linux are you using |
| 21:11.07 | kittiy | u tellme euex |
| 21:11.14 | kittiy | what |
| 21:11.15 | resiak | !find libresolv.so.2 |
| 21:11.19 | peterS | monk: /msg dpkg search /lib/libresolv.so.2 |
| 21:11.24 | peterS | oh yeah, find, not search, sorry |
| 21:11.32 | shingouz | someone +q that one :( |
| 21:11.35 | Frozen-Solid | resiak: waht's better/easier to use/faster/easier to make playlists in? |
| 21:11.46 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I appreciate your help. Thanks. Installing now. |
| 21:11.51 | resiak | Frozen-Solid: I love mpd, but try both for yourself and see. |
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| 21:11.53 | zero-1 | b |
| 21:11.54 | jeffro | oh frozensolid whats the name of your gfx card? |
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| 21:11.58 | monk | dpkg doesn't give me anything when i search |
| 21:12.01 | kittiy | red hat |
| 21:12.10 | peterS | monk: also, since it's already installed on your system, try 'dpkg -S libresolv.so.2' |
| 21:12.12 | Eulex | monk, libc6 |
| 21:12.19 | shingouz | kittiy: how about going to a redhat channel then? |
| 21:12.20 | Frozen-Solid | jeffro: i forget the codename for the gamecube's graphics card. but it's a gamecube :P |
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| 21:12.29 | shingouz | thanks bob2 |
| 21:12.30 | jeffro | cool, try ati |
| 21:12.33 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I just wanted to brag that I had a custom compiled kernel to my friends :) |
| 21:12.39 | Frozen-Solid | jeffro: the best gc-linux has to offer right now is a gc-based SDL |
| 21:12.48 | jeffro | yeah i know |
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| 21:12.57 | DeadZed | peterS .. you told me to dd a partition . . thats no good .. cause I wont be able to fit that image onto resized ext3 |
| 21:12.59 | jeffro | im gonna get a gclinux gc about a week |
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| 21:13.07 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: I use cplay. there are others like mp3blaster, juice. |
| 21:13.13 | peterS | DeadZed: no I didn't, you don't have to dd it, you can mke2fs a new filesystem and use 'cp -ax' |
| 21:13.13 | jeffro | gottogo to bathroom xD |
| 21:13.21 | monk | hostname: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libresolv.so.2: invalid ELF header |
| 21:13.23 | jeffro | also |
| 21:13.28 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, if that's just the reason for compiling a custom kernel, you won't get any help here |
| 21:13.29 | mbirkis | how do i mount a directory with a specific user as owner using fstab? |
| 21:13.32 | jeffro | gc-linux isnt debian xD |
| 21:13.34 | bob2 | monk: something has screwed your disk |
| 21:13.35 | peterS | DeadZed: I meant to use dd only to create the right partition size. redirect from /dev/zero, not from your existing partition |
| 21:13.50 | Frozen-Solid | jeffro: uh... it's debian sid as far as i understood |
| 21:14.09 | Eulex | monk, that file is in libc6, which you must have installed. I suspect it's b0rked |
| 21:14.10 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: it may be based on debian, but its not debian |
| 21:14.21 | resiak | mbirkis: man mount, or /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 21:14.31 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: debian doesnt have a distro that runs on a gamecube |
| 21:14.34 | DeadZed | ipeterS isnt there a simple way to create image/package of my ext3 and put it on anoher ext3 ? |
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| 21:14.48 | Frozen-Solid | it still uses all of debian's distros... the only thing non-debian in it is the fact you replace the sdl with a custom one for the gamecube |
| 21:14.59 | resiak | !based on debian |
| 21:14.59 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 21:15.01 | monk | Eulex: after my electric got shut off and when i reboot my computer that file gone |
| 21:15.11 | monk | and it fucked up my system |
| 21:15.22 | DeadZed | resiak easy, easy ,,, no need to sapm |
| 21:15.24 | Eulex | monk, what fs are you using? and btw, that means it's corrupted |
| 21:15.28 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I need to use powernowd, what are my chances of it working? |
| 21:15.34 | Frozen-Solid | resiak: yes. i know i get a debian answer, hence why i'm in #debian and asking for a debian answer |
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| 21:15.44 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: you're full of shit :P the debian installer doesnt support installing to a gamecube, which doesnt even have a fixed disk of any kind AFAIK |
| 21:15.45 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, I have NFI |
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| 21:15.53 | monk | Eulex: i dont know what file system i'm using |
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| 21:15.56 | monk | how do i check? |
| 21:15.57 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: nor does it have kernels or anything else that will work on there |
| 21:16.01 | DeadZed | peterS isnt there a simple way to create image/package of my ext3 and put it on anoher ext3 ? |
| 21:16.03 | Eulex | monk, /etc/fstab |
| 21:16.06 | monk | when i next reboot i have to run fsck |
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| 21:16.17 | ska-fan | Where do I send mail to to (un)subscribe to bug mail? |
| 21:16.26 | monk | ex2 |
| 21:16.27 | Frozen-Solid | nvz: the install is done into an iso file that you load via nbd -- the kernel is loaded via a hack, but everything else is still debian |
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| 21:16.37 | monk | Eulex: ext2 |
| 21:16.45 | bob2 | ska-fan: I'm almost certain you have to do it through the web |
| 21:16.59 | nvz | Frozen-Solid: you apperently dont know what debian is. it takes more than a deb package or two to make debian |
| 21:17.10 | Eulex | monk, there's your problem. use ext3. ext2 doesn't have a journal, so if it gets corrupted, it is corrupted and fsck has a much smaller chance of being able to fix it |
| 21:17.14 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: This is part of a cluster. I need to be able to turn power on and on through the network to each cluster member from the head computer. |
| 21:17.46 | monk | Eulex: How do i change it to ext3? |
| 21:17.54 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, and what has powernowd got to do with that? |
| 21:17.57 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Excuse me, I need to be able to turn power on. |
| 21:17.58 | Frozen-Solid | nvz: i KNOW it's not 100% official debian. but it's still running debian and tehrefore i am asking debian based questions in a debian chatroom - if i were asking a gamecube specific question i'd be elsewhere, but i'm not. so i would REALLY appreciate not being jumped on every time imention i'm running gc-linux |
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| 21:18.23 | Frozen-Solid | jeffro asked why i didnt have x, and i asnwered - that is all. |
| 21:18.24 | ska-fan | bob2: Actually, I just saw that pts@qa.debian.org worked. |
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| 21:18.43 | ska-fan | i.e. it processes majordomo type requests. |
| 21:18.47 | nvz | just dont call it debian, and dont expect to get support with it and there wont be a problem |
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| 21:18.52 | monk | Eulex, so i just need to reinstall libc6 to get that file back? |
| 21:18.58 | cougar` | Hello all : So I'm a paranoid mofo and since I shut down the computer immed by the power button, I was trying to see what happend when I hit the power button.... well, I'm trying to run fsck .... |
| 21:19.03 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, man powernowd and you'll see why I'm asking you that |
| 21:19.06 | cougar` | and the result I get is 1.35 |
| 21:19.08 | bob2 | ska-fan: oh, bah, sorry, I thought you were refering to bugzilla for some reason |
| 21:19.09 | nvz | people will answer you in the best debian way they know and you can take it or leave it |
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| 21:19.20 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Yeah :( I need to read more. |
| 21:19.25 | Eulex | monk, probably -- and I dunno how to make it ext3 |
| 21:19.29 | jeffro | well i had knoppix but none wanted to help me... |
| 21:19.37 | Eulex | anyway, g2g for a while |
| 21:19.53 | PeterB | monk: /msg dpkg ext2->ext3 |
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| 21:20.02 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I see said the blind man who picked up a hammer and saw. |
| 21:20.03 | cougar` | What the hell is 1.35? |
| 21:20.09 | jeffro | !ext2->ext3 |
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| 21:20.17 | Octavian_ | hi there |
| 21:20.21 | jeffro | !tell me about ext2->ext3 |
| 21:20.33 | Octavian_ | does anyone know a package to handle locally modified debs? |
| 21:20.35 | PeterB | !tell jeffro about msgdpkg |
| 21:20.46 | bob2 | Octavian_: what is there to handle? |
| 21:20.52 | monk | tune2fs -j /dev/hda1 will remove hda1 partition? |
| 21:21.00 | jeffro | !jeffro |
| 21:21.14 | monk | is it format partition Eulex? |
| 21:21.16 | cougar` | How do I scroll up a window? |
| 21:21.17 | jeffro | !jeffro tell PeteB about he understood it. |
| 21:21.26 | Octavian_ | bob2: well... optimization, changed configure/make settings |
| 21:21.35 | cougar` | I have a monitor hooked up to my box, and I'm tyring to scroll up the output |
| 21:21.37 | peterS | cougar`: depends on your IRC client. in many of them you can just use PgUp |
| 21:21.48 | bob2 | Octavian_: not possible, in general |
| 21:21.58 | peterS | cougar`: for linux console stuff (not an irc window), sometimes Shift-PgUp |
| 21:22.13 | cougar` | okay |
| 21:22.14 | jeffro | ok |
| 21:22.17 | cougar` | That worked! Nice job! |
| 21:22.18 | Octavian_ | bob2: hmm... but i am shure that i saw such a package recently in apt... dont know the name though |
| 21:22.21 | jeffro | timidity is HARD |
| 21:22.25 | jeffro | !lol |
| 21:22.26 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a knoppix user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 21:22.46 | jeffro | :D greycat kills a Debian Based user |
| 21:22.58 | bob2 | Octavian_: there isn't one, in general. pentium-builder might help. |
| 21:23.14 | takatumi | Octavian_: try mercurial |
| 21:23.17 | Octavian_ | bob2: i saw that one, but its only for optimizaton |
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| 21:23.33 | PeterB | monk: No. You'll still have your data. |
| 21:23.33 | cougar` | peterS : fsck -V / results with fsck 1.35 (20-Feb-2004) then says /sbin/fsck.xfs (1) -- /] fsck.xfs /dev/hda1 |
| 21:23.53 | Octavian_ | takatumi: :) now i have cvs, subersion, bitkeeper and git... thats enough for me ;) |
| 21:24.17 | cougar` | peterS : What is the result of the check? I'm paranoid and I'm checking if the filesystem suffered from me turning off the machine so wrong :P |
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| 21:24.34 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I did the kernel upgrade and get a kernel panic. pivot-root No such file or device |
| 21:24.37 | guptan | how is fontconfig, xft and pango are related? how do I patch pango (a module) i have module-name-fc.la & module-name-fc.so files available in /usr/lib/pango/version/modules directory and module-name-xft.so module-name-xft.la as patch files obtained from www |
| 21:25.15 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I assume the device name is different for the SATA drive. |
| 21:25.32 | cougar` | Can anyone help?! |
| 21:25.35 | peterS | cougar`: I have very little experience with XFS |
| 21:25.48 | cougar` | okay |
| 21:26.09 | cello_rasp | i am repartitioning with space for win, installing debian and then installing win98. will the work or have i forgotten something about windows installs that fucks up existing linux? |
| 21:26.16 | DeDeDeDah | 2.2.27-2 boots, 2.4.2 kernel panic |
| 21:26.17 | jasoncohen | what architecture option to i need for 686 in make menuconfig - pentium pro says M686 which looks correct |
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| 21:27.01 | PeterB | cello_rasp: Windows will overwrite your bootloader. |
| 21:27.19 | cello_rasp | argh |
| 21:27.47 | drac | jasoncohen: eh, you choose pentium pro from menuconfig, it's written in name there (IIRC) |
| 21:27.48 | cougar` | BRB |
| 21:28.02 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I do appreciate your help. Where do I go from here :( |
| 21:28.03 | r_marvin | cello_rasp: put windows first, debian after that |
| 21:28.03 | jasoncohen | drac, ok, done |
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| 21:29.27 | Slippy | I like food |
| 21:29.44 | bob2 | guptan: not finding an answer in #ubuntu or #fedora does not make this a Debian question |
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| 21:29.51 | bob2 | guptan: ask in #gtk+ on irc.gnome.og |
| 21:30.07 | guptan | bob2, i asked in #debian |
| 21:30.19 | guptan | oops |
| 21:30.30 | cello_rasp | what sort of partition is recommended when using both win and linux and fdisk only allows 1 primary partition? |
| 21:30.40 | peterS | jasoncohen: yes, pentium pro was the first i686 chip. you've got an athlon xp so I wonder why you need to know (: |
| 21:30.48 | jeffro | fat |
| 21:30.58 | jeffro | cellorasp use fat |
| 21:31.00 | guptan | sorry bob2 i got it |
| 21:31.22 | guptan | (i thought we were talking in #ubuntu ;) |
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| 21:31.53 | jasoncohen | peterS, because the k7 kernel was giving me grief |
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| 21:32.17 | jasoncohen | when i compiled kernel modules with k7 it gave me the tveeprom module problem |
| 21:32.35 | peterS | jasoncohen: ok that's a bit weird. anyway, yeah, pentiumpro ought to work fine |
| 21:32.55 | d03boy | woo got cpu throttling working... now I need to make the screen turn off when the laptop lid is closed... to google I shall go |
| 21:33.43 | wam | how do I tell udev to always create this device? mknod afa0 c 253 0 - My udev is on tmpfs |
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| 21:34.10 | jasoncohen | peterS, is there something wrong with the 2.6.11 kernel in etch? it seems like it has a lot of issues |
| 21:34.10 | AlienX | hmm looks like gaim is broken in sid |
| 21:34.22 | smo_ | why lotus notes is so used , i just installed domino server on debian and notes client on xp and what s more???? |
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| 21:35.19 | PissedTrixBunny | how do I install cups? |
| 21:35.20 | jasoncohen | AlienX, you sure it's not gaim-encryption? |
| 21:35.23 | PissedTrixBunny | !cups |
| 21:35.23 | dpkg | from memory, cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it. what breast size?, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
| 21:35.25 | ellobo | so did X.org packages entered unstable ? i am asking since the message was here last friday already :P |
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| 21:35.39 | bob2 | ellobo: yes |
| 21:35.42 | jasoncohen | AlienX, with gaim-encryption enabled gaim will freeze on startup i believe |
| 21:36.47 | ellobo | is it "safe" to update/upgrade ? |
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| 21:37.41 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, I did say I had to g2g for a while -- and now I'm back -- what is the name of the sata drive on 2.2.27? btw, 2.4.2 is ancient too |
| 21:37.43 | |dennis| | !FreeS/WAN |
| 21:37.43 | dpkg | it has been said that frees/wan is a kernel network extensions to provide secure communications over the internet with trusted hosts. Visit webpage @ http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeswan/. |
| 21:37.50 | Slippy | ellobo: somewhat "safe" yes |
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| 21:38.22 | AlienX | jasoncohen, gaim won't even install due to "broken package" and saying "gaim: Depends: libaspell15c2 (>= 0.60) but it is not going to be installed |
| 21:38.26 | cougar` | Okay : My friend says that my Dell Dimension has Softoff in the BIOS but has no option in the BIOS to turn it off. But, Debian does not see the feature on the BIOS, and ignores it. Or, the BIOS on the Dimension sees basically DOS, and turns off immediately when I hit thw power button. |
| 21:38.29 | DeDeDeDah | I just switched from a 2.4 to a 2.6 kernel, the serial ATA drive device name is not being picked up with 2.6 correctly it seems. How do I fix this. |
| 21:38.39 | cougar` | Is there anyway I can fix this behavior? |
| 21:38.50 | jasoncohen | AlienX, oh, ok |
| 21:38.55 | jasoncohen | different problem then |
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| 21:39.21 | Octavian_ | DeDeDeDah: what driver are u using? |
| 21:39.46 | davr | AlienX: I have the same problem: gaim wants to install libaspell15c2, but libaspell15c2 conflicts with libaspell15 which is required for all of KDS |
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| 21:40.28 | AlienX | davr, yeah, that's exactly what's going on with me |
| 21:40.49 | Slippy | aargh...don't you just hate it when your butt and legs falls asleep and you don't notice it before it's too late?! ..just fell off my friggin chair in effort to get a cup of coffee |
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| 21:41.10 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, are you listening to me? btw, what 2.6? |
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| 21:41.19 | daffy-pkf | hmmm, i need help guys, apt ask me to run "apt-get -f install", it want to install a package, but then tells me it can't because it want to replace a file used by another package, then i try to remove that packages wich use that file, but it ask me to run "apt-get -f install" |
| 21:41.24 | davr | AlienX: Apparently it's related to the gcc 4.0 c++ issues, I guess all I can really do is wait a while until the packages get sorted out. |
| 21:41.30 | liquid_ | apt-get install urmom |
| 21:41.44 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Sorry .... nature called. 2.6.8 |
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| 21:42.12 | AlienX | davr, that's ok. I just got a computer from a friend to sell and it has a lesser than legitimate copy of windows on it so I installed debian to try out the new installer (which is pretty impressive) so I have my other box running a different distro |
| 21:42.21 | davr | daffy-pkf: I would look for a flag that forces it to overwrite the file that already exists, and call apt-get -f install --(that flag), then remove both of the packages which use that file, then install the one you want |
| 21:42.25 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, and what's the sata drive device? |
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| 21:42.54 | daffy-pkf | davr> ok thanks |
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| 21:43.24 | Octavian_ | ciao |
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| 21:43.26 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: How do I determine that sir? As in the actual hardware used? |
| 21:43.46 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, check the root device in grub/lilo |
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| 21:43.59 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Ok |
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| 21:44.09 | Hohlraum | anyone know if the new 3.1 installer works with dell poweredge 1850 and 2850 .. or if all hoops needed for woody still need to be 'jumped' ? |
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| 21:44.49 | cougar` | Whose been here for a while? Can anyone do a search for fsck -V / in this channel and paste to me what I said. PLEASE |
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| 21:45.07 | bwlang | under what circumstances do you need to use nagios-dbnamehere instead of nagios-text? seems like a lot of extra complexity |
| 21:46.15 | Eulex | cougar`, I cannae -- my fs is mounted |
| 21:46.17 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I am looking in the grub device map. It has (hd0) /dev/dhc |
| 21:46.35 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: That is in device.map |
| 21:46.51 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: It is the only entry. |
| 21:47.06 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, do you mean /dev/hdc? btw, you should look in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:47.06 | cougar` | That's okay |
| 21:47.29 | bob2 | Hohlraum: nothing on google? |
| 21:47.32 | cougar` | It's okay. aktinos helped me out |
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| 21:47.38 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Ok, thanks. I have never done this before. |
| 21:47.38 | bob2 | Hohlraum: I'd assume it'd work, if a stock 2.6 kernel works on it at all |
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| 21:48.21 | Vinland | whats a good firewall to use ..besides firestarter? |
| 21:48.33 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I see, thanks so much. ( Light turns on! ) |
| 21:48.37 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, check for a line like "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12.1.custom.1.1 root=/dev/sda5 ro" and paste it here |
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| 21:49.13 | Eulex | root=/dev/whatever is the important part |
| 21:49.13 | PeterB | cougar`: Shall I /msg you that line? |
| 21:49.18 | monk | Hey if i do tune2fs -j /dev/hda1 will it format the partition |
| 21:49.18 | monk | ? |
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| 21:49.32 | Slippy | no |
| 21:49.35 | monk | oh |
| 21:49.42 | monk | it just change from ext2 to ext3? |
| 21:49.42 | cougar` | PeterB : Damn, way too many peterS: No thanks man, aktinos helped me out. |
| 21:49.48 | Slippy | yup |
| 21:49.52 | monk | cool |
| 21:49.53 | cougar` | Thanks for offering tho |
| 21:49.53 | monk | thanks |
| 21:50.04 | monk | hey Thanks Eulex |
| 21:50.07 | monk | :) |
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| 21:50.14 | monk | i reinstall libc6 AND IT WORKS |
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| 21:50.38 | Eulex | monk, heh, ok |
| 21:50.43 | monk | :) |
| 21:50.49 | PeterB | !tell monk about enter |
| 21:51.08 | d03boy | does anyone know why my acpi events wouldnt be working? is that common? |
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| 21:52.20 | kingsley_ | d03boy: My understanding is that acpi is hardware dependent, and various manufacturers don't adhere to a standard. |
| 21:52.27 | cougar` | Okay : ACPI is detected by my Debian system but is disabled. #Linux people handed my issue over to this channel. They don't know why its disabled. If you join #flood I can show u the ouput from dmesg | grep ACPI |
| 21:53.17 | kingsley_ | cougar`: Show me |
| 21:53.44 | Oldak | I have xfonts-efont-unicode installed and UTF-8 set as default, but most scripts don't display? |
| 21:53.56 | yuacht | how can i change my password and override the "password too simple" thingy using passwd? |
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| 21:54.02 | d03boy | ok |
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| 21:54.18 | rob_lt | Recommendations for a good font to use in a spreadsheet where the text must be small (8 pt) and exported to pdf? |
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| 21:54.38 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2.686-smp root=/dev/dhc1 ro |
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| 21:54.55 | kingsley_ | cougar`: Have you tried googling for "ACPI: Interpreter disabled."? |
| 21:55.06 | cougar` | Nope, but now I will |
| 21:55.29 | Slippy | rob_lt: dunno...verdana is my favourite though |
| 21:55.32 | grepper | cougar`: is it an older bios ? |
| 21:55.42 | cougar` | LOL |
| 21:55.42 | cougar` | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/11/msg00329.html |
| 21:55.44 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, you're device is spelt wrong -- I guess you mean /dev/hdc1 |
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| 21:56.03 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Yes sorry. |
| 21:56.09 | green_earz | yuacht: passwd username |
| 21:56.25 | yuacht | green_earz, yes but it says my new password is too simple |
| 21:56.29 | yuacht | but i still wanna use it |
| 21:56.33 | yuacht | i HAVE to use it |
| 21:56.33 | yuacht | :) |
| 21:56.50 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I had to type it in. I am on another computer here. |
| 21:57.11 | green_earz | yuacht: change the password to a better one |
| 21:57.29 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: So I add an option for booting with /dev/sdc1 and try it, or something like that? |
| 21:57.37 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, ok -- try changing it to /dev/sdc1 and try kernel 2.6.8 and 2.6.11 -- but *don't* do this change on your old working 2.2 kernel |
| 21:57.42 | Eulex | yeah |
| 21:57.46 | Slippy | yuacht: are you issuing a passwd user as root? -although it has a point you know..simple passwords suck |
| 21:57.47 | cougar` | kingsley_ : I'm on #linux : More people helpin' out there than here, would you care to join #linux? |
| 21:58.03 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Thanks, your great. Trying now. Thanks for your patience. |
| 21:58.45 | yuacht | Slippy, i know they suck but i don't have any choice since it's my friends acc, and he must have that password... already tried to convince him to change, if that succeeded i wouldn't be asking here right ;) |
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| 21:59.25 | Slippy | yuacht: heh fair enough...but just do a passwd user as root |
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| 22:02.35 | yuacht | Slippy, will do :) |
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| 22:04.44 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: It seems to be indentifying the drive as a SCSI device sda |
| 22:04.59 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, then try /dev/sda1 |
| 22:05.11 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Ok |
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| 22:05.27 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, you could try running fdisk -l from a live cd with a 2.6 kernel |
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| 22:07.26 | th0ger | I want to reload a sound module with new options (snd_via82xx), but i depends on many other sound modules. How can i do this without rebooting? |
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| 22:07.56 | th0ger | modprobe -r doesnt work :( |
| 22:08.09 | Eulex | th0ger, remove the ones it depends on? |
| 22:08.24 | Eulex | or rather, the ones that are depending on it |
| 22:08.31 | th0ger | its about 10-15 ! |
| 22:08.45 | th0ger | i dont want to do that manually |
| 22:09.11 | cougar` | Okay |
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| 22:10.20 | Eulex | th0ger, if I don't remember wrong alsaconf unloads all modules before probing -- run it and then cancel it |
| 22:10.50 | cougar` | Here's the deal everyone : apt-get install acpi worked fine. apt-get install acpid worked fine. Came to configuration screen and well, Kernel does not have ACPI enabled. In order to be able to use the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface support you need to recompile your kernel with ACPI support enabled. |
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| 22:10.58 | cougar` | I have no idea how to recompile a kernel |
| 22:11.08 | busboy | hi, anyone familar with geeklog? |
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| 22:11.42 | Eulex | cougar`, what kernel? |
| 22:11.51 | cougar` | No idea |
| 22:11.55 | cougar` | How do I tell you that? |
| 22:12.15 | Eulex | uname -r |
| 22:12.16 | th0ger | Eulex: i tried that :), but if i cancel it (so it doesnt mess up my config) it doesnt reload the modules :( |
| 22:12.53 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: That worked. Thank you!!! |
| 22:13.04 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, yw |
| 22:13.23 | Eulex | th0ger, nope it doesn't -- you said you wanted to unload them and load the audio driver again with other params |
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| 22:13.43 | cougar` | Eulex : 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 22:14.01 | th0ger | Eulex: ill try it again |
| 22:14.16 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: It also turned off by itself on shutdown!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!! Way to go!!!!!!!! |
| 22:14.28 | Ipsooo | is there any way to update busybox used in the sarge installer? |
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| 22:14.37 | Eulex | th0ger, so why don't you modprobe the driver now then? |
| 22:14.55 | zite | how do I mount my ntfs partition? |
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| 22:15.29 | Eulex | cougar`, check /boot/config-2.4.27-2-386 to see if acpi is enabled... though it should be |
| 22:15.35 | Ipsooo | mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /mnt/ntfs i guess |
| 22:15.37 | PeterB | zite: man mount, man fstab, /msg dpkg mount |
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| 22:15.42 | zite | thanks |
| 22:15.49 | PeterB | zite: Make that /msg dpkg mount ntfs |
| 22:16.00 | Eulex | zite, add -o umask=022 to the command Ipsooo gave you |
| 22:16.11 | jayeola | ! |
| 22:16.50 | Yaksman | modprobe ntfs might help |
| 22:16.57 | Ipsooo | 022? ntfs writing is supported? |
| 22:17.03 | Yaksman | then again, my modules.conf might be hosed... |
| 22:17.13 | zite | says mount point /mnt/ntfs doesn't exist, do I need to create a folder with that name? |
| 22:17.20 | Ipsooo | yes zite |
| 22:17.24 | Eulex | Ipsooo, oh, sorry, -o umask=022,ro |
| 22:17.29 | Ipsooo | or any other name you like |
| 22:17.29 | Yaksman | mkdir /mnt/ntfs |
| 22:17.42 | th0ger | Eulex: ive got it working.... |
| 22:17.51 | Eulex | th0ger, ok |
| 22:17.54 | cougar` | Eulex : I apologize : I had to go get dinner |
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| 22:18.07 | cougar` | Eulex : I'm back and checking now |
| 22:18.19 | Ipsooo | eulex, actually i don't know about ntfs writing, it may be supported now, i can't tell |
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| 22:18.23 | PeterB | !congratulate th0ger |
| 22:18.24 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies th0ger, you did it! |
| 22:18.29 | zite | :D thank you |
| 22:18.32 | omry_ | what command line util can give me the time elapsed between two calls? (stopwatch like) |
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| 22:19.15 | Yaksman | you prolly have to compile the kernel by hand and enable read/write ntfs to do writable |
| 22:19.20 | DeDeDeDah | omry_: Using the Bourne Again Shell? |
| 22:19.21 | cougar` | Eulex : I'm using 'more' on that file and trying to do a search for acp and it's not finding anything, gonna grep instead |
| 22:19.23 | jasoncohen | peterS, bttv seems really messed up in 2.6.11. first i have to unload tveeprom and then load bttv and it still fails |
| 22:19.27 | Yaksman | it's supposed to be really unstable |
| 22:19.28 | Eulex | Ipsooo, supported in the latest kernels, but very limited -- can not create, delete or resize files, just change files without changing the size of them |
| 22:19.36 | omry_ | DeDeDeDah, yes. |
| 22:19.44 | Eulex | cougar`, grep for ACPI |
| 22:20.03 | cougar` | Eulex : lots of info on ACPI |
| 22:20.07 | Ipsooo | ok, thx for the info eulex |
| 22:20.28 | cougar` | Eulex : Not sure what I'm lookin' for |
| 22:20.34 | cougar` | Eulex : paste in #flood? |
| 22:20.54 | Eulex | cougar`, sure |
| 22:21.07 | cougar` | Okay |
| 22:21.16 | th0ger | PeterB: dpkg thankx hippies ;) |
| 22:21.51 | omry_ | DeDeDeDah, if that was an answer rather than a question, care to elaborate? |
| 22:22.02 | DeDeDeDah | timeit |
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| 22:22.49 | Eulex | cougar`, do a reboot and check your dmesg |
| 22:22.51 | cougar` | Eulex : Then if that checks out okay : Why is it not working and why does when I try to install acpid tell me it not enabled in kernel |
| 22:23.09 | cougar` | so reboot now, and check dmesg for APCI? |
| 22:23.09 | DeDeDeDah | omry_: timeit will run some code and tell you how long it took. Perhaps this is not what you want exactly. |
| 22:23.33 | PeterB | DeDeDeDah: You mean time(1), right? |
| 22:23.46 | cougar` | Eulex : I don't understand |
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| 22:24.09 | th0ger | Can i check which options a module is loaded with? |
| 22:24.10 | DeDeDeDah | timeit [Benchmark] |
| 22:24.16 | Eulex | cougar`, yes, reboot, and check your dmesg for anything that has to do with ACPI |
| 22:24.26 | omry_ | DeDeDeDah, not exactly, but it can help. how can I use it? from scripts only? |
| 22:24.28 | cougar` | EULEX : I have that info for you |
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| 22:24.42 | Eulex | cougar`, ok |
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| 22:24.52 | cougar` | Eulex : pasting in #flood |
| 22:25.26 | dave | Hey, I have the 2.6.8-2-686-smp kernel (debian), and I'm trying to get the snd-azx alsa driver installed, what's the best way of doing this? (the driver doesn't come with the kernel :-/) |
| 22:25.34 | DeDeDeDah | omry_: You want your script to measure the time between the execution of one command to another and print it out, is that it? |
| 22:26.07 | DeDeDeDah | Like initialize a timer to zero, start a timer, and print it? |
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| 22:26.16 | cougar` | Eulex : Done |
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| 22:27.02 | omry_ | debhelper, no, I want to time a part of the execution of my script. |
| 22:27.03 | DeDeDeDah | omry_: That BASH command will print out the time it took between the call and return. |
| 22:27.20 | Eulex | cougar`, "ACPI: Interpreter disabled." is your problem -- google for it, and you may also want to try out a newer kernel, like 2.6.8 or 2.6.11 |
| 22:27.48 | cougar` | Eulex : Okay |
| 22:27.50 | cougar` | Thanks |
| 22:27.51 | glasse | omry_: you can do: time command, or if you need more than that, try: time bash -c "script fragment" |
| 22:27.54 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: Eulex just recommended a new kernel to me. I used 2.6.8 and it worked. |
| 22:28.11 | glasse | omry_: Not exactly like a stopwatch, though. It only works on whole commands |
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| 22:28.20 | cougar` | DeDeDeDah : One difference though, I'm new when it comes to using a diffierent kernel |
| 22:28.31 | cougar` | There isn't a simple update feature right? |
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| 22:28.59 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: So was I. You install another one. Keep the old one. When your system boots it will give you another option. |
| 22:29.04 | jeffro | Got another queston, i downloaded timidity patches |
| 22:29.09 | jeffro | but ho to install them |
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| 22:29.20 | jeffro | its a deb file |
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| 22:29.27 | cougar` | DeDeDeDah : Want to help me out plz? |
| 22:29.35 | Eulex | jeffro, dpkg -i filename |
| 22:29.40 | omry_ | glasse, DeDeDeDah, thanks. |
| 22:29.42 | cougar` | DeDeDeDah : Walk me thru it |
| 22:29.49 | Eulex | cougar`, apt-cache search kernel-imag |
| 22:29.50 | Frozen-Solid | is there a way to get cplay show ID3 tags? |
| 22:30.00 | Eulex | cougar`, apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 and install the one you want |
| 22:30.07 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: I can try, with the watchfull eye of others here. I am new. First though may I ask are you using an IDE drive? |
| 22:30.18 | cougar` | Yes |
| 22:30.32 | eeyore- | hmm, so X in sid has already switched over to xorg? i see 6.8.2.dfsg |
| 22:30.34 | Eulex | cougar`, then there should be no such problem like DeDeDeDah had |
| 22:30.34 | cougar` | IDE : Yes |
| 22:30.41 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: Are you using the Gnome desktop? |
| 22:30.51 | cougar` | I'm not using any GUI |
| 22:30.55 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, what has that to do with it?? |
| 22:30.56 | cougar` | all command line |
| 22:31.04 | cougar` | I'm psyched |
| 22:31.22 | Eulex | cougar`, sarge, etch or sid? |
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| 22:31.28 | cougar` | Sarge |
| 22:31.32 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Sorry, I should ask him to run the Synaptic Package Manager |
| 22:31.33 | jeffro | What does this mean? No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 10 - this instrument will not be heard |
| 22:31.33 | jeffro | No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 11 - this instrument will not be heard No pre-resampling cache hit (Start) |
| 22:31.53 | eeyore- | jeffro: you haven't got any sounds for your MIDI |
| 22:31.57 | cougar` | Debian Sarge RC3 |
| 22:32.00 | eeyore- | jeffro: go download some samples |
| 22:32.04 | Eulex | cougar`, ok, what cpu? |
| 22:32.11 | jeffro | do you mean a sf2 file? |
| 22:32.17 | cougar` | Intel Pentium 3 933 MHz |
| 22:32.20 | jeffro | i allready have 2 of them |
| 22:32.27 | cougar` | Eulex : How can I give you the correct info? |
| 22:32.37 | Eulex | cougar`, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 22:32.41 | DeDeDeDah | cougar1: Eulex will help you |
| 22:32.45 | eeyore- | jeffro: it's whatever your midi device will accept ... i don't know much about it beyond that. there are various formats of midi samples around. |
| 22:32.56 | jeffro | ok |
| 22:33.08 | eeyore- | jeffro: thing seems to be complicated, though, with editing text files to map sound to various banks and stuff .... |
| 22:33.20 | cougar` | 686 .... hmmmm |
| 22:33.24 | jeffro | but qsynth worked so timidity has to work? |
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| 22:33.32 | cougar` | Eulex : Used to be 386 |
| 22:33.35 | jeffro | dont know how to setup it |
| 22:33.46 | Eulex | cougar`, 386 will work too, but it will be slower than 686 |
| 22:33.52 | jayeola | yiiihaaa! debain's installed on a PIII box, now it's time to start borking it |
| 22:34.05 | Eulex | !debain |
| 22:34.06 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 22:34.15 | eeyore- | jeffro: if qsynth works, why not keep using it? :-) timidity was a pain in the a** for me to set up all sounds .... i don't have it any more |
| 22:34.22 | cougar` | Eulex : I want to tell you this : I can't be online if this box is not running. I can, with some reconfiguring on my network to make my LinkSys router start to be a gateway again. So... is this okay to proceed? |
| 22:34.29 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: I understand what you are saying, run it directly from the command line when you help people instead of using the GUI. |
| 22:34.30 | jeffro | yes but qsynth is very annoying too |
| 22:34.36 | cougar` | Eulex : We want 686 bud! |
| 22:34.43 | jeffro | i have to boot it every time i want to hear midi |
| 22:34.54 | jeffro | after that if i wantto listen to something else |
| 22:35.03 | jeffro | i have to g in as root and kill-9 it |
| 22:35.06 | Eulex | cougar`, installing that kernel won't make you automatically reboot or something like that |
| 22:35.13 | cougar` | Eulex : Okay |
| 22:35.13 | resiak | jeffro: If you're sure that you have a SoundFont2 sound card, you can load the sf2s onto it with awesfx. |
| 22:35.19 | cougar` | Eulex : Downloading now |
| 22:35.26 | jeffro | its a ensoniq |
| 22:35.33 | jeffro | soundblaster pci 64 |
| 22:35.37 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: With Eulex helping you this will be a piece of cake. |
| 22:35.41 | resiak | !tell jeffro -about enter |
| 22:36.12 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, yes, everyone has apt-get, and it's easier to help people by just giving them a command, than telling them to do something specific in some gui |
| 22:36.21 | cougar` | Yeah |
| 22:36.23 | jeffro | I know, but i forgot to tell somthing so i type another time |
| 22:36.26 | cougar` | I'm psyched |
| 22:36.43 | jeffro | um |
| 22:36.50 | jeffro | How do you start awesfx |
| 22:37.02 | resiak | !installit |
| 22:37.02 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 22:37.08 | jeffro | i apt-getted it before |
| 22:37.16 | cougar` | Eulex : I'm getting configuration prompts... what to do? |
| 22:37.25 | Eulex | jeffro, RTFM'ed yet? |
| 22:37.26 | resiak | Although it may not be right for your card. I played around with it for a while on my emu10k1 at home and it did good things. |
| 22:37.27 | cougar` | Eulex : Install a boot block using the existing /etc/lilo.conf? |
| 22:37.29 | jeffro | but awesfx is a non-existing command |
| 22:37.48 | jeffro | man awesfx No manual entry for awesfx |
| 22:38.08 | Eulex | cougar`, are you running lilo? then I'm afraid I can't help you -- I have never used lilo, and I recommend switching to grub |
| 22:38.26 | Eulex | jeffro, dpkg -L awesfx |
| 22:38.29 | resiak | jeffro: dpkg -L awesfx; ls /usr/share/doc/awesfx |
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| 22:40.25 | cougar` | Eulex : So I'm not screwed, you just can't help me. In otherwords, I'ms crewed |
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| 22:41.03 | Eulex | cougar`, someone else will probably be able to help you |
| 22:41.04 | cougar` | Eulex : How do abort this install procoess? |
| 22:41.14 | Eulex | cougar`, don't |
| 22:41.15 | jeffro | No AWE synth device is found |
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| 22:41.24 | jeffro | Cant do that :( |
| 22:41.34 | cougar` | Eulex : I doubt it, no one else seems to be interested |
| 22:41.46 | PeterB | cougar`: Unless you've messed with your lilo.conf you should be fine. |
| 22:42.01 | cougar` | PeterB : I have not |
| 22:42.02 | Eulex | cougar`, if you abort it, you'll end up with a halfly installed kernel |
| 22:42.09 | cougar` | There is no way I can switch from LILO to Grub? |
| 22:42.33 | cougar` | EUlex, PeterB, join #flood |
| 22:42.41 | Eulex | already there |
| 22:42.45 | ryan_ | hey, totaly offtopic question, but i figure someone might know. I'm looking for a kit to mount 4 or 5 hard drives sideways in 3 5.25 bays, and i'm looking for a kit to do it, anyone know where to get one or what it's called? |
| 22:42.58 | Blissex | ryan_: 3ware |
| 22:42.58 | jeffro | Cougar: apt-cache search grub |
| 22:43.12 | eeyore- | ryan_: there are several models out on the market. |
| 22:43.25 | eeyore- | ryan_: google for "ide 3 to 5" or some such |
| 22:43.27 | jeffro | i recommend you download the documentation too |
| 22:43.39 | jayeola | newbie quick poll: lilo or grub |
| 22:43.41 | eeyore- | ryan_: the other possible solution is to make them all firewire :-) |
| 22:43.46 | jeffro | GRUB! |
| 22:43.53 | Eulex | jayeola, grub |
| 22:43.55 | TheAsp | jayeola: that doesnt even deserve to be asked |
| 22:44.09 | jeffro | lilo is \|/ |
| 22:44.14 | Eulex | grub is idiot-safe and b0rking-safe |
| 22:44.14 | jeffro | far beneath |
| 22:44.16 | ryan_ | eeyore-, thanks. |
| 22:44.27 | cougar` | What do I do?! |
| 22:44.35 | jeffro | apt-cache search grub |
| 22:44.36 | cougar` | Eulex : I pasted |
| 22:44.39 | cougar` | I can't |
| 22:44.40 | ryan_ | I';m not looking for a RAID enclosure, just wanna save some space in my case :) |
| 22:44.44 | Eulex | cougar`, I know, I dunno |
| 22:44.49 | ryan_ | they're actauly sata drives |
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| 22:44.54 | cougar` | I'm already in kenrel configuration! ;( |
| 22:44.57 | jayeola | well i'm used to grub. it's a fresh deb install with lilo. installer says to strengthen lilo against physical attacks |
| 22:44.58 | TheAsp | ryan_: baycool 3 |
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| 22:45.02 | DeDeDeDah | Eulex: Is it easy to use grub to dual boot XP? |
| 22:45.03 | glasse | cougar`: Do you have another OS installed on your HD? |
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| 22:45.13 | pippijn | hi all |
| 22:45.15 | cougar` | Nope :( |
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| 22:45.17 | glasse | cougar`: Do you have any other bootable partitions? |
| 22:45.24 | pippijn | how do I get rid of all the packages except for the base? |
| 22:45.25 | cougar` | Can I abort, then apt-get remove the kernel I'm trying to use? |
| 22:45.33 | cougar` | Glasse : Nope :( |
| 22:45.35 | jeffro | YES DEDEDEDEDAH |
| 22:45.44 | Eulex | DeDeDeDah, as I said before, I completely dunno about lilo |
| 22:45.47 | jeffro | im doint it to |
| 22:45.48 | glasse | cougar`: You can hit "Yes" here, then |
| 22:45.53 | jayeola | howver i'm not afraid of lilo - just wanna see if i can use grub with deb |
| 22:46.04 | cougar` | Okay done |
| 22:46.08 | jeffro | im using grub with debian.... |
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| 22:46.10 | cougar` | Testing lilo.conf ... |
| 22:46.10 | cougar` | Testing successful. |
| 22:46.10 | cougar` | Installing the partition boot sector... |
| 22:46.10 | cougar` | Installation successful. |
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| 22:46.12 | glasse | cougar`: As you can see, it is warning you in case you have another OS or another bootable partition |
| 22:46.15 | resiak | jayeola: If you're installing Sarge, Grub is the default and the only sane choice. |
| 22:46.15 | glasse | Oh, hahaha |
| 22:46.23 | cougar` | crap |
| 22:46.24 | Eulex | cougar`, do not paste in here |
| 22:46.29 | cougar` | Too many channels |
| 22:46.31 | cougar` | Sorry |
| 22:46.33 | Eulex | cougar`, use paster or #flood |
| 22:46.41 | jeffro | or when you past |
| 22:46.43 | cougar` | Channel : Sorry |
| 22:46.47 | jeffro | delete those crazy icons |
| 22:46.47 | cougar` | Eulex : I thought I was in flood |
| 22:46.47 | pippijn | anyone? |
| 22:46.53 | TheAsp | ryan_: well, it gets 3 drives in a double height 5 1/4, http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=VDCB3 |
| 22:47.06 | cougar` | Eulex : I'm on a Mac box ssh into Linux box doing the install |
| 22:47.07 | Eulex | pippijn, apt-get remove them? |
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| 22:47.24 | cougar` | Can I switch from lilo to grub easily? Or you do not recommend? |
| 22:47.27 | leumas | hi |
| 22:47.36 | cougar` | Eulex : I answered yes and install is complete |
| 22:47.43 | resiak | pippijn: Why are you doing that, out of interest? |
| 22:47.44 | cougar` | Eulex : and successful |
| 22:47.51 | rbochan | pippijn: depending on what you've got installed, it might even be easier to start from scratch rather than pick away at stuff for an hour |
| 22:48.01 | pippijn | hm |
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| 22:48.04 | leumas | i have a trouble, gnome-volume-manager only wors with root user |
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| 22:48.26 | pippijn | resiak: I want to get rid of the packages I don't want but well... it is so much |
| 22:48.34 | Eulex | cougar`, now you afaik should be ready to restart and choose the new kernel -- though you'll need physical access to the box |
| 22:48.35 | pippijn | I will just reinstall then |
| 22:48.44 | Eulex | pippijn, debfoster? |
| 22:48.45 | cougar` | I do |
| 22:48.51 | pippijn | debfoster? |
| 22:48.52 | pippijn | ... |
| 22:48.54 | pippijn | let me see |
| 22:49.06 | cougar` | Eulex : I do...What will I be asked? |
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| 22:49.49 | pippijn | is there a meta port for the base? |
| 22:49.56 | pippijn | a meta package |
| 22:50.06 | Eulex | cougar`, afaik what kernel to boot -- but I dunno how the prompt will look or anything -- as I said before, I've never even seen or touched lilo |
| 22:50.11 | rbochan | pippijn: it's the netinst cd |
| 22:50.15 | cougar` | Okay |
| 22:50.24 | cougar` | I will now restart |
| 22:50.27 | cougar` | Wish me luck everyone |
| 22:50.29 | pippijn | hey |
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| 22:50.34 | pippijn | Eulex: debfoster is cool |
| 22:50.35 | seto_ | hi |
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| 22:50.38 | Eulex | cougar`, so I don't guarantee anything |
| 22:50.47 | cougar` | Eulex : It's okay |
| 22:50.51 | Eulex | pippijn, yeah, it is |
| 22:50.52 | cougar` | lets hope! |
| 22:51.06 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: God speed :) |
| 22:51.08 | StuckMojo | anyone else getting "can't load default font fixed" when trying to start X in sid? |
| 22:51.25 | pippijn | it needs a lot of concentration |
| 22:51.25 | StuckMojo | i have, and have reinstalled, xfonts-base |
| 22:51.25 | seto_ | what is the tool to modify the gtk font ? someone here give one one day but I forgott ! so .. I reask |
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| 22:51.33 | zorton | I hate finding bugs listed in the database that havne't bene resolved :( Ref: 267969 |
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| 22:51.53 | pippijn | Eulex: a whole lot of concentration |
| 22:51.56 | pippijn | so brb |
| 22:51.58 | pippijn | thanks |
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| 22:52.15 | Eulex | pippijn, it sure does, I usually correct my mistakes afterwards :) |
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| 22:53.25 | eowo | Can someone please tell me how i can change the wireless chanel on a wireless network card, tried google didnt find anything, i dotn have x installed |
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| 22:53.33 | a1fa | hi.. |
| 22:53.36 | a1fa | pastebin? |
| 22:53.43 | cougar` | Okay |
| 22:53.44 | Eulex | eowo, iwconfig? |
| 22:53.45 | rasputnik | eowo: iwconfig? |
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| 22:53.52 | a1fa | i get bunch of errors: dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. |
| 22:53.58 | a1fa | start-stop, and etc.. |
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| 22:54.00 | seto_ | no idea ? |
| 22:54.05 | eowo | k i'll try that |
| 22:54.07 | eowo | thank you |
| 22:54.07 | a1fa | what package are these file with? |
| 22:54.11 | beardy | a1fa: /msg dpkg paster |
| 22:54.21 | cougar` | Eulex : No prompt.... LILO wrote alot of periods, then it booted. and uname -r results in 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 22:54.44 | paster | "a1fa" at 24.144.49.234 pasted "error" (7 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/384 |
| 22:54.46 | Eulex | cougar`, heh, ok -- at least it works |
| 22:54.49 | pippijn | shit |
| 22:54.58 | rbochan | cougar`: was that supposed to happen? |
| 22:54.58 | pippijn | Eulex: I removed gdm by mistake ;) |
| 22:55.00 | cougar` | Eulex : I think it umm, chose the new on by default! |
| 22:55.02 | a1fa | i get this error when i do apt-get update |
| 22:55.06 | a1fa | err |
| 22:55.08 | a1fa | apt-get install |
| 22:55.14 | cougar` | rbochan : I have no idea |
| 22:55.15 | rasputnik | If I need an ipw2100 driver, is there an 'official' debian package, or is it taboo (as its non-free)? |
| 22:55.18 | cougar` | But I'm up and running |
| 22:55.24 | cougar` | Ummm |
| 22:55.26 | rbochan | cougar`: by default, lilo.conf point to /vmlionuz, which is a symlink to the most recently installed kernel |
| 22:55.27 | cougar` | yeah :P |
| 22:55.31 | th0ger | how do i easily edit/view running services in deb? (mandrake: ntsysv + chkconfig) |
| 22:55.34 | cougar` | rbochan : Awesome |
| 22:55.36 | rbochan | */vmlinuz |
| 22:55.47 | cougar` | So, Eulex : I'm done? |
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| 22:56.01 | rbochan | if you want to choose shich to boot into, you'll have to read up on the lilo.conf and edit it appropriately |
| 22:56.05 | Eulex | rbochan, sounds kinda stupid, cos you'll have to go in with a livecd if it refuses to boot |
| 22:56.11 | mfrisch | make-kpkg RULES! |
| 22:56.23 | a1fa | yo? |
| 22:56.24 | ccbailey | Damn straight. |
| 22:56.26 | rbochan | Eulex: that's why I never use a default lilo.conf |
| 22:56.37 | Eulex | cougar`, well, 2.6.8 is installed -- what was your original problem? :) |
| 22:56.38 | pippijn | whoa damn |
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| 22:56.42 | pippijn | Eulex: this is too tedious |
| 22:56.43 | cougar` | ACPI :P |
| 22:56.47 | pippijn | I won't do this |
| 22:56.50 | Eulex | cougar`, oh, yeah |
| 22:57.04 | Eulex | pippijn, it will be worth it in the end |
| 22:57.09 | pippijn | really? |
| 22:57.13 | a1fa | ~ldconfig |
| 22:57.14 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, ldconfig is not working... |
| 22:57.14 | pippijn | I don't think so |
| 22:57.20 | cougar` | Eulex : is it advised to remove the old kernel? |
| 22:57.21 | pippijn | Eulex: I mess up a lot |
| 22:57.21 | a1fa | wtf is ldconfig? |
| 22:57.28 | a1fa | what package is it part of? |
| 22:57.29 | pippijn | as I don't know what is in base and what not |
| 22:57.36 | pippijn | m4 is in base afaik |
| 22:57.36 | mfrisch | but I cannot get device-mapper to work. Does that have to be in the kernel or mod? |
| 22:57.40 | Eulex | pippijn, run debfoster regularly and it will keep track of what packages you want |
| 22:57.40 | pippijn | but I dont know |
| 22:57.43 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: Does ACPI work now? |
| 22:57.49 | pippijn | well |
| 22:57.51 | pippijn | do I want m4? |
| 22:57.55 | TheAsp | a1fa: part of libc6, it manages the cache of info about your libraries |
| 22:57.59 | pippijn | gnu macro processor |
| 22:58.05 | pippijn | nothing seems to depend on it |
| 22:58.08 | a1fa | i just bought VPS |
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| 22:58.11 | a1fa | VSP* |
| 22:58.12 | cougar` | DeDeDeDah : How do I know for sure: I'm not going to push the power button and have the machine turned off |
| 22:58.19 | Eulex | cougar`, you may remove the old kernel, you may also keep it -- but keep it just to be sure |
| 22:58.23 | cougar` | DeDeDeDah : I'll install acpid now |
| 22:58.29 | cougar` | I'll keep it |
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| 22:58.30 | TheAsp | cougar`: you need acpid for that |
| 22:58.38 | Eulex | cougar`, check your dmesg |
| 22:58.43 | DeDeDeDah | cougar`: Do a shutdown and see it if turns off automatically :) |
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| 22:59.02 | cougar` | Okay |
| 22:59.10 | a1fa | TheAsp: i bought VSP, and i cant download any packages now |
| 22:59.14 | cougar` | dmesg | grep -i acpi gave alot of info! More then before :P |
| 22:59.18 | TheAsp | a1fa: wtf is vsp |
| 22:59.24 | mfrisch | vsp? |
| 22:59.30 | cougar` | It's UP! |
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| 22:59.41 | beardy | a1fa: Check if your root's .profile file has the correct path. Mine is "PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11" and make sure there is an "export PATH" on the line under. |
| 22:59.47 | cougar` | DeDeDeDah: is that why my linux bos says Power Off and doesn't turn off :P |
| 22:59.47 | a1fa | virtual server provider |
| 23:00.03 | a1fa | export PATH |
| 23:00.07 | a1fa | its there |
| 23:00.13 | rbochan | cougar`: is this an older machine? |
| 23:00.20 | beardy | a1fa: And the path is correct? |
| 23:00.22 | cougar` | SWEET! ACPId installed! |
| 23:00.23 | a1fa | yup |
| 23:00.27 | pippijn | Eulex: it is too tedious now but after the reinstall I will still do that with debfoster :) |
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| 23:00.36 | cougar` | rbochan : P3 933 Dell Dimension 4100 |
| 23:00.58 | Slippy | Later guys |
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| 23:01.02 | rbochan | cougar`: ok, because some older machines work just fine with apm loaded |
| 23:01.24 | aaronlin | I want to install lynx web browser on Debian. Can I type: apt-get install lynx if I haven't configured apt? |
| 23:01.27 | cougar` | APM is disabled |
| 23:01.31 | Eulex | cougar`, ok, congrats :) |
| 23:01.33 | a1fa | uh |
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| 23:01.36 | a1fa | path is missing |
| 23:01.43 | a1fa | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.45 | cougar` | Eulex yeah! |
| 23:01.47 | rbochan | aaronlin: config apt first or it won't know where to get the package from |
| 23:01.53 | shimano55 | Question, Where can I download lame so I can encode mp3s? |
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| 23:02.16 | a1fa | thats fixed ;) |
| 23:02.19 | a1fa | more errors |
| 23:02.25 | a1fa | install-info |
| 23:02.29 | Eulex | alfa, ldconfig is in libc6, start-stop-daemon is in dpkg |
| 23:02.36 | aaronlin | rbochan: Do I need to configure manually? |
| 23:02.36 | rbochan | shimano55: debian offers it |
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| 23:02.50 | a1fa | yeya |
| 23:02.52 | a1fa | foxed |
| 23:02.54 | a1fa | fixed |
| 23:02.54 | rbochan | aaronlin: run 'apt-setup' as root, and it will set you up |
| 23:02.55 | a1fa | :) |
| 23:02.57 | a1fa | path sucks |
| 23:02.59 | a1fa | thanks guys |
| 23:03.04 | cougar` | Well I can remove acpi package cause thats like LAPTOP info :P |
| 23:03.21 | aaronlin | rbochan: Is it very easy after thta? |
| 23:03.27 | rbochan | aaronlin: clicky clicky... http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html |
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| 23:03.38 | cougar` | hehe |
| 23:03.41 | cougar` | acpi - Shows battery status information |
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| 23:03.53 | Eulex | cougar`, it can show a lot more |
| 23:04.09 | cougar` | Eulex : acpi -V not showin' anything |
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| 23:04.29 | Eulex | cougar`, heh -- then you haven't got anything that can show any info for it |
| 23:04.36 | cougar` | rgr |
| 23:04.44 | shimano55 | rbochan, I do apt-get install lame, and it says "Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 23:04.44 | shimano55 | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 23:04.44 | shimano55 | is only available from another source |
| 23:04.44 | shimano55 | E: Package lame has no installation candidate |
| 23:04.44 | shimano55 | ". |
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| 23:04.58 | Eulex | cougar`, it can show thermal info, battery info, fan info, ac info etc |
| 23:05.04 | cougar` | cool |
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| 23:05.14 | Eulex | cougar`, but only if your hardware supports it |
| 23:05.17 | shimano55 | oops |
| 23:05.21 | beardy | !tell shimano55 about paster |
| 23:05.24 | jdhutchin1 | shimano55, then you don't have your apt sources set up correctly |
| 23:05.28 | cougar` | Eulex : How do I know what my power button will do now? Without doing it :P |
| 23:05.39 | Vinland | I can't seem to boot with my debian box anymore. A started to get segmentation faults a while ago when running commands. Then when I restarted the box it wouldn't boot. It doesn't give me an error message it just says "egrep (GNU grep) 2.5.1 This is free software". And hangs, I cntrl c to pass it during the boot, it prints that out a few more times and then hangs again. I booted with knoppix and fscked hda1. still no booting |
| 23:05.44 | jdhutchin1 | !tell shimano55 about marillat |
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| 23:06.27 | rbochan | jdhutchin1: that's from marillat? |
| 23:06.39 | Eulex | cougar`, I dunno |
| 23:06.48 | cougar` | Eulex : HAHA :P |
| 23:07.02 | rbochan | damn, so it is |
| 23:07.11 | cougar` | Eulex : Why did we just go thru the trouble, if any, umm, for ACPI :P |
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| 23:07.29 | Eulex | cougar`, you can check for things like "kernel: ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PBTN]" in your dmesg |
| 23:07.30 | Hilferd | WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111WE IS A LOSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 |
| 23:07.39 | Eulex | kick him |
| 23:07.49 | gravity | !ops Hilferd |
| 23:07.50 | cougar` | ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] |
| 23:07.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Hilferd |
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| 23:07.55 | Hilferd | we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s |
| 23:08.06 | Hilferd | we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s |
| 23:08.06 | Hilferd | are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s we are loser,s |
| 23:08.12 | TheAsp | we are? :) |
| 23:08.23 | gravity | But we also know how to use an apostrophe |
| 23:08.27 | jayeola | yo mother is a looser |
| 23:08.30 | streuner | what a moron :-) |
| 23:08.44 | oKtosiTe | We are losers who don't know how to spell... |
| 23:08.44 | TheAsp | gravity: i think you mean comma |
| 23:08.50 | cougar` | Eulex : That results in ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] |
| 23:08.53 | gravity | TheAsp: That too |
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| 23:09.08 | gravity | Christ... that's what I get for trying to be witty while doing a zillion things at once :-p |
| 23:09.13 | TheAsp | hehe |
| 23:09.20 | Eulex | cougar`, I dunno, you wanted acpi? and afaik it will make it turn off when you run shutdown or make it able to reboot |
| 23:09.21 | cougar` | Eulex : I'm assuming that if I press power button, it will power off eh :P |
| 23:09.30 | TheAsp | cougar`: in theory, it will shut down |
| 23:09.37 | Eulex | cougar`, yes, and it would do that without acpi |
| 23:09.45 | TheAsp | cougar`: you may need to set your bios to "suspend on power button" or something like that |
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| 23:09.57 | TheAsp | otherwise it will shut off |
| 23:10.15 | cougar` | Eulex : I want it ignore the press of the power button unless I hold it in. |
| 23:10.30 | TheAsp | then you dont want acpi |
| 23:10.32 | TheAsp | :P |
| 23:10.38 | laabxol | Hello! |
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| 23:10.51 | cougar` | TheASP : My bios has no option to turn it off. Jowi on #linux said that the box does support Soft Power Off |
| 23:11.08 | TheAsp | press button with acpi -> shutdown -h, hold button and it will power off without shutting down |
| 23:11.14 | cougar` | Oh |
| 23:11.21 | cougar` | Really, so It will shut down? |
| 23:11.25 | TheAsp | yeah |
| 23:11.26 | cougar` | shutdown -h :P |
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| 23:11.33 | cougar` | Coooool That as my ultimate goal |
| 23:11.37 | Eulex | shutdown -hP now |
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| 23:11.38 | nite613 | which sort of font packages do I need to install to get more fonts for the gimp text tool? There's tex fonts, gs fonts, X fonts, etc I'm just confused as to which I need |
| 23:11.40 | TheAsp | cougar`: and it should power off at the end |
| 23:11.44 | cougar` | Awesome |
| 23:11.52 | Eulex | nite613, ttf fonts |
| 23:11.55 | Blissex | nite613: X fonts |
| 23:12.16 | rbochan | nite613: msttcorefonts! |
| 23:12.22 | cougar` | Guys : How can I test this without runin anything? Do I want to go to Single User Mode, and will acpid still be running? That way I don't risk hurting files |
| 23:12.23 | Blissex | nite613: X fonts, which come in two varieties, but either should work. |
| 23:12.37 | rbochan | here a font there a font everywhere a font font |
| 23:12.50 | Eulex | we should get a fontbadger |
| 23:12.56 | TheAsp | cougar`: there is probably little risk of ruining stuff with an accidential power off |
| 23:12.59 | rbochan | cougar`: prepare for the worst case |
| 23:12.59 | nite613 | I wonder if that helped :P |
| 23:13.03 | Phated | Old defoma had a farm, de-f-o-m-a? |
| 23:13.09 | rbochan | :) |
| 23:13.19 | cougar` | okay |
| 23:13.23 | cougar` | wish me luck |
| 23:13.32 | cougar` | is there a scirpt that power off runs? |
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| 23:13.45 | cougar` | to see that PWRF runs shutdown -Ph ? |
| 23:14.11 | cougar` | F it! I'm goin' for it! |
| 23:14.14 | TheAsp | /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh |
| 23:14.17 | nvz | cougar`: why is the power not going off? |
| 23:14.27 | Eulex | !fontbadger |
| 23:14.27 | dpkg | font font font font font font font font install it install it font font font font font font font font for gi-imp gi-imp font font font font... |
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| 23:14.59 | TheAsp | btw, i dont think you need -P with shutdown |
| 23:15.12 | nvz | Eulex: fieldysnuts? |
| 23:15.53 | Eulex | TheAsp, maybe not but you mean to do at least shutdown -h now |
| 23:16.16 | Eulex | nvz, eh? |
| 23:16.19 | TheAsp | Eulex: yeah, that was obvious :P |
| 23:16.34 | beardy | Is 'halt' completely separate from 'shutdown'? |
| 23:16.40 | nvz | Eulex: you were acting like a bot whore.. thats FieldySnuts job |
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| 23:17.08 | Eulex | nvz, hehe, I'll make him forget |
| 23:17.11 | nvz | i think I am as close to recovered from last nightas I will be today.. I think I can go eat something |
| 23:17.17 | TheAsp | beardy: no |
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| 23:17.45 | TheAsp | beardy: see the halt manpage |
| 23:17.46 | streuner | beardy: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10208 2005-01-04 23:43 /sbin/halt |
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| 23:17.57 | aaronlin | rbochan: thanks |
| 23:18.00 | zite | how do I copy a directory? |
| 23:18.00 | streuner | beardy: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18516 2005-01-04 23:43 /sbin/shutdown |
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| 23:18.07 | gerhard0815 | hi |
| 23:18.09 | aaronlin | apt-setup worked flawlessly |
| 23:18.11 | aaronlin | exit |
| 23:18.17 | nvz | sure will be nice. all I ate before I par-tay'd last night was cherry twisslers |
| 23:18.26 | nvz | or is it twizzler |
| 23:18.27 | nvz | heh |
| 23:18.29 | gerhard0815 | im searching for a 2.6.11 source |
| 23:18.39 | gerhard0815 | for my sarge r0 dsitro |
| 23:18.47 | gerhard0815 | i mean an image |
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| 23:19.26 | gerhard0815 | may someone help me? |
| 23:19.26 | Eulex | gerhard0815, 2.6.11 ain't in sarge |
| 23:19.34 | gerhard0815 | hm |
| 23:19.45 | nvz | next time I throw a party there will have to be food |
| 23:19.51 | streuner | gerhard0815: so run testing/etch |
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| 23:20.02 | Ronin | nvz: you threw a party with no food???? tsk tsk |
| 23:20.07 | liable | or just get the image from there. |
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| 23:20.22 | gerhard0815 | i dont wanna trash my system... |
| 23:20.29 | nvz | Ronin: hey, the party wasnt at my house.. I brought the alcohol.. heh |
| 23:20.36 | Ronin | ahh ok then |
| 23:20.57 | laabxol | Hello, Is there someone who can help me about setting up Xserver under Sarge? |
| 23:21.06 | streuner | gerhard0815: its a open secret that many people run unstable kernels in testing |
| 23:21.16 | gerhard0815 | laabxol: just run xf86config or something |
| 23:21.31 | streuner | laabxol: what videocard do you have? |
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| 23:21.58 | cougar` | Oh hell yeah! |
| 23:22.00 | cougar` | I'm happy now |
| 23:22.17 | nvz | I brought a case of beer, will brought little less than half a case, and all James had was a bunch of couches, some white christmas lights at his house, an ipod full of music hooked to the stereo and some playing cards.. oh yeah and a half a bag of snyders jalepeno chips |
| 23:22.21 | TheAsp | cougar`: sweet. |
| 23:22.21 | nvz | those fuckers were hot |
| 23:22.23 | laabxol | I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but, I cannot get it work |
| 23:22.29 | streuner | laabxol: what videocard do you have? |
| 23:22.47 | cougar` | Eulex : TheAsp : rbochan : Thanks for your help and assistance. Really appreciate it |
| 23:23.03 | laabxol | The computer is an IBM thinkpad 600x |
| 23:23.18 | cougar` | Guys : You shoulda saw me trying to press the power button, was treating it like as if I was gonna get shocked.... LOL |
| 23:23.19 | streuner | laabxol: that didn't answer the question |
| 23:23.28 | streuner | laabxol: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 23:23.30 | cougar` | tHit the power button, and boom, box when down for HALT! SO SWEET! |
| 23:23.33 | laabxol | The video card is NeoMagic |
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| 23:23.42 | streuner | laabxol: run 'lspci -v | grep -i VGA |
| 23:23.45 | Ronin | nvz: one case? so what did everyone else drink? |
| 23:23.46 | Eulex | cougar`, yw |
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| 23:23.55 | beardy | TheAsp: thanks |
| 23:24.05 | Eulex | laabxol, so use the neomagic driver -- btw, what neomagic card? |
| 23:24.09 | gerhard0815 | ok..what should i add to sources.list for a 2.6.11 kernel? |
| 23:24.27 | Eulex | gerhard0815, just get the kernel image deb from packages.debian.org |
| 23:24.33 | gerhard0815 | ok ^^ |
| 23:24.51 | nvz | Ronin: heh.. they were fishin before they came |
| 23:24.56 | gerhard0815 | hm...how to switch resolution in textmode? |
| 23:25.07 | nvz | Ronin: it was only a few friends. |
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| 23:25.13 | gerhard0815 | framebuffer or something... |
| 23:25.15 | nvz | supposed to be more, but nobody showed up |
| 23:25.27 | `UD | Question: running irssi on your firewall to connect to the net could be unsafe right? if some one had an exploit to get root access? |
| 23:25.39 | nvz | there were only 3 of us.. so we each had a decent ammount in a short time, without eating |
| 23:25.41 | laabxol | ok, I'll try it |
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| 23:26.07 | streuner | laabxol: keep in mind, in debian we need often the chipset in order to help... |
| 23:26.07 | Ronin | ahh the empty stomach drunk, heh i know it well |
| 23:26.25 | laabxol | I even repeated the installation many times with no succes |
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| 23:26.31 | Eulex | `UD, you shouldn't run irc as root, if that's what you're asking |
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| 23:27.07 | beardy | gerhard0815: fbset, if you are using a frambuffer console. You can not resize textmode consoles other than when booting. |
| 23:27.09 | `UD | Eulex: i know that, what i am asking is, even if i irssi is running as a user, could some one use an exploit to gain root access? |
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| 23:27.30 | laabxol | OK, but how is it possible to know the chipset? do I have to open it? |
| 23:27.35 | Eulex | `UD, maybe. maybe not. you never know |
| 23:27.42 | Eulex | laabxol, lspci |
| 23:27.49 | `UD | Eulex: thanks |
| 23:27.49 | gerhard0815 | beardy: wich package do i need for this? |
| 23:27.50 | streuner | laabxol: no, 'lspci' is your friend |
| 23:27.50 | asdf__ | my hp nx8220 latop does not work with X, I am running debian stable (3.1) and its graphics card is an ATI X600. I am trying to find what's the correct driver to use ('ati' driver option in X does not work). Google hasn't been helpful either. Any pointers/ideas? |
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| 23:28.27 | Eulex | asdf__, define "does not work" |
| 23:28.31 | gerhard0815 | beardy: i dont have a framebuffer console yet, but want one ^^ |
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| 23:28.34 | streuner | laabxol: an alternative is 'cat /proc/foo' |
| 23:28.38 | laabxol | Ok, I,ll see it with that friend |
| 23:28.41 | gravity | asdf__: You probably want to use the backported X.Org packages |
| 23:29.22 | krezel | any particular reason why my totem-xine would be displaying everything in seipa/green tones instead of color? (Unstable with X.org) |
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| 23:29.40 | gerhard0815 | wrong codec? |
| 23:29.41 | asdf__ | gravity: you reckon? I even tried switching to sid yesterday but it didn't help at all. I will probably switch to etch but I wanted to have X working first |
| 23:29.53 | gravity | asdf__: X.Org in unstable didn't work for you? |
| 23:29.59 | krezel | gerhard0815: I think the codec is fine, I've got w32codecs installed |
| 23:30.01 | gravity | asdf__: It should support your card |
| 23:30.05 | asdf__ | gravity: where can I get those backported X.org packages? |
| 23:30.19 | asdf__ | gravity: well, what is the name of the package I have to install? |
| 23:30.20 | krezel | even movies that played fine before are now funky colored |
| 23:30.23 | streuner | dpkg, get xorg debs |
| 23:30.33 | streuner | dpkg, listkeys xorg |
| 23:30.34 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'xorg' by key (7): CMD: xorgsmite (.*?) ;; xorg sarge ;; get xorg ;; xorg advantages ;; xorg-nvidia ;; xorg ;; xorg disadvantages. |
| 23:30.42 | streuner | dpkg, get xorg |
| 23:30.43 | dpkg | xorg recently entered unstable. EXPECT MAJOR BREAKAGE. if you were previously running xorg debs from any other source you must remove all traces of xorg packages before you install the official xorg packages, or currently nvidia-glx is not working with xorg. so if you need 3d accel with an nvidia card, don't migrate to xorg, or see <xorg-nvidia>, or <xorg sarge> |
| 23:30.44 | gravity | asdf__: http://www.inittab.de/blog |
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| 23:30.59 | gravity | nvidia-glx should ow work with X.Org |
| 23:31.03 | gravity | That's outdated. |
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| 23:31.15 | laabxol | Thank you for your help, I am going to try, I'll be back later. |
| 23:31.17 | gravity | Although I'd love to get confirmation on that from anyone with nvidia and the -3 packages... |
| 23:31.18 | Eulex | asdf__, have you tried commenting out Load "GLCore" and Load "dri" in XF86Config-4? |
| 23:31.35 | asdf__ | Eulex: yes, it does not work :/ |
| 23:31.46 | honschu_ | Hi, is there a abstraction-layer for windows-only printers to use the proprietary driver? |
| 23:31.51 | Eulex | asdf__, do you get any error? |
| 23:31.57 | streuner | gravity: someday i'll buy a nvidia videocard... ;-) |
| 23:32.04 | asdf__ | Eulex: yes I get no screens fouund |
| 23:32.15 | gravity | streuner: I'm trying to avoid it myself. I have no desire for one, although more and more I feel like I need one to deal with bugs. |
| 23:32.31 | streuner | gravity: hm |
| 23:32.46 | gravity | Although I still need a machine to put one in. That's first priority :-) |
| 23:32.48 | beardy | gerhard0815: The package fbset is in, is called fbset. (/msg dpkg search) However, if you are going to use the VESA framebuffer, you can not change it's size, in any way, other than when booting. (unless this has changed in 2.6 kernels) |
| 23:32.54 | Eulex | asdf__, that's not a real error -- checked /var/log/XFree86.0.log? |
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| 23:32.59 | gravity | Using a single laptop for all of X work is a bit insane |
| 23:33.00 | streuner | gravity: hehe |
| 23:33.13 | rbochan | !no screens found |
| 23:33.13 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 23:33.24 | Eulex | gravity, you've got an ati card? |
| 23:33.25 | asdf__ | Eulex: no I am affraid I haven't :/ |
| 23:33.26 | gravity | asdf__: Yeah, post your logfile in a pastebin somewhere |
| 23:33.29 | gravity | Eulex: Yes |
| 23:33.36 | Eulex | ok |
| 23:33.50 | gravity | asdf__: It's possible that you don't need the backported packages |
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| 23:34.02 | asdf__ | gravity: I am on windows now, I will reboot and get the logfile |
| 23:34.17 | asdf__ | gravity: what do you suggest then? |
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| 23:34.20 | gravity | asdf__: Ok... I have to go for a little while. If no one else can help you, I'll help out when I get back |
| 23:34.30 | streuner | asdf__: wtf you haven't a i-net connection in debian? |
| 23:34.42 | gravity | asdf__: First get that logfile. If no one can help you when you get that up, try the backports. |
| 23:34.55 | saboteur | anyone clued up with debian-installer? |
| 23:35.02 | gravity | asdf__: Hopefully someone will help you before I get back. |
| 23:35.03 | asdf__ | streuner: I can't get on irc from the command line, I can't use a console irc client |
| 23:35.03 | saboteur | i tried in here yesterday but not much luck :) |
| 23:35.09 | honschu_ | Hi, is there a abstraction-layer for windows-only printers to use the proprietary driver? |
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| 23:35.15 | streuner | asdf__: heh? |
| 23:35.16 | asdf__ | gravity: I asked here last night too, no joy |
| 23:35.20 | Eulex | asdf__, why? |
| 23:35.23 | gravity | asdf__: Ok |
| 23:35.37 | Eulex | asdf__, tried pork or irssi? |
| 23:35.41 | punkrockmcduck | hi everybody |
| 23:35.47 | TheAsp | i prefer chicken |
| 23:35.47 | asdf__ | streuner: I don't know how to use a console irc client |
| 23:35.50 | punkrockmcduck | i have a question about XFCE. does anyone here use it? |
| 23:36.07 | Eulex | punkrockmcduck, goto #xfce |
| 23:36.09 | Ronin | got one little sob here too streuner if your on a roll |
| 23:36.14 | punkrockmcduck | thanks |
| 23:36.17 | streuner | asdf__: pretty easy, just install it (apt-get install irssi-text) |
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| 23:36.28 | gerhard0815 | beardy: ok, if i installed "fbset" i just have to add an opntion to grub? |
| 23:36.29 | beardy | asdf__: apt-get isntall irssi-text, irssi, /connect server.foo, /join #channel, /quit, when you are done |
| 23:36.48 | streuner | asdf__: run as user in irssi (/connect irc.debian.org) and /j #debian, done. |
| 23:36.50 | Ronin | asdf__: beardy missed an important part, open a term, start a screen, irssi etc |
| 23:36.58 | beardy | Ronin: No |
| 23:37.11 | Ronin | ok only us addicts run it in a screen |
| 23:37.12 | Eulex | Ronin, he haven't got X running |
| 23:37.17 | beardy | Ronin: He said "console" |
| 23:37.28 | Ronin | ahh, missed that part, must have been off making supper |
| 23:37.34 | beardy | Ronin: Yeah, that comes later :) |
| 23:37.58 | asdf__ | ok, I will do that now |
| 23:37.58 | ratifers | boa noite !! |
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| 23:38.22 | Ronin | speaking of which i better go check on it |
| 23:38.24 | ratifers | quando o usbview detecta um dispositivo em vermelho e pq ?? ele naum funcionara ?? no linux ?? |
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| 23:38.35 | Eulex | !br |
| 23:38.36 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 23:39.33 | gerhard0815 | how to set framebuffer as kernelparameter? |
| 23:39.35 | mngrif | Next expisode of LINK-MAN, we find Link-Man has lost his dog, Four-Oh-Four! |
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| 23:40.28 | streuner | gerhard0815: read kernelparameters.txt in your linux sources (docs)? |
| 23:40.29 | Eulex | gerhard0815, video=vesafb vga=mode (where mode is vesa vbe mode in hex + 200h) |
| 23:40.31 | seven_six_two | can anyone recommend a good prog to grab photos from a sony cybershot? i looked, and can't find info on how to do it. |
| 23:40.48 | streuner | seven_six_two: gphoto2 |
| 23:40.58 | Eulex | seven_six_two, tried just plugging it in and mounting it? |
| 23:41.18 | dak | anyone know why kdebase wont install on sid ? it bitches about depends and how it wont install them |
| 23:41.22 | streuner | seven_six_two: mount it, if it has usb-storage, if not just use gphoto2 |
| 23:41.30 | gerhard0815 | thx |
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| 23:41.39 | Eulex | !topicsmite dak |
| 23:41.39 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon dak. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 23:41.53 | dak | im reading the topic |
| 23:41.58 | dak | well before you did that |
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| 23:42.03 | gerhard0815 | im gonne reboot ^^ |
| 23:42.26 | beardy | gerhard0815: I think that depends on which framebuffer driver you are using, look in /usr/src/linux-sourcedir/Documentation/fb/*.txt which parameters you should give to the kernel. |
| 23:42.33 | Eulex | dak, that gcc/g++ 4,0 breakage affects *everything* |
| 23:42.37 | Eulex | beardy, he left |
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| 23:42.47 | dak | eulex and you cant downgrade right ? |
| 23:42.52 | leumas | hi |
| 23:42.54 | seven_six_two | Eulex, i plugged it in, but the only thing in /dev/usb is hiddev0 |
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| 23:43.06 | beardy | Eulex: His loss, I guess.. |
| 23:43.57 | Eulex | seven_six_two, fdisk -l /dev/sda? sdb, sdc, etc |
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| 23:44.08 | Eulex | dak, you can, but not without major hassle |
| 23:44.11 | leumas | i have installed gnome-volume-manager and hal, but gvm dont mount automaticly |
| 23:44.21 | deckrider | hi, I use debian/sarge and am using gaim to connect to msn. However, at work, they use msn messenger, but with a different protocol....perhaps sip? is there any software available to send/receive instant messages with that protocol? |
| 23:44.26 | leumas | debian sid |
| 23:44.35 | streuner | seven_six_two: what does 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' say? |
| 23:45.12 | seven_six_two | no such file or dir |
| 23:45.18 | rbochan | deckrider: gaim seems to have a plugin for jsut about everything, have you check the gaim homepage? |
| 23:45.26 | seven_six_two | i'm going to try another usb port. i tried the front one... |
| 23:45.34 | streuner | seven_six_two: have you loaded 'ide-scsi'? |
| 23:45.47 | seven_six_two | yes |
| 23:45.52 | deckrider | rbochan: yes, I have....they have a "summer of code" project to add a plugin for that, but I assume that means they don't currently have one |
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| 23:46.05 | leumas | anybody have installed gnome-volume-manager? |
| 23:46.11 | Thanatermesis | $ /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 23:46.11 | streuner | seven_six_two: custom kernel? |
| 23:46.14 | Thanatermesis | Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing |
| 23:46.18 | Thanatermesis | any idea ¿? |
| 23:46.26 | seven_six_two | nope. debian sarge installed it |
| 23:46.42 | zite | the little kde bar at the bottom isn't responding - what do I do? |
| 23:46.47 | beardy | leumas: You will get more and better help if you just ask your question. |
| 23:46.52 | dak | Eulex even if i build from source, like with apt-build i will still have problems ? |
| 23:47.00 | streuner | seven_six_two: and 'cdrecord -scanbus' give you any results? |
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| 23:47.49 | streuner | seven_six_two: that's very odd, btw. |
| 23:48.02 | streuner | seven_six_two: Do you have 'hotplug' installed? |
| 23:48.07 | leumas | oki |
| 23:48.20 | rbochan | deckrider: I see a bunch of sip based libraries, but I'm not seeing any sort of IM client |
| 23:48.23 | streuner | seven_six_two: dpkg -l hotplug | tail -1 |
| 23:48.31 | leumas | gnome-volume-manager cant mount automaticly my cdrom |
| 23:48.44 | leumas | how i can fix that? |
| 23:48.48 | deckrider | rbochan: yeah, thats about all I can see also....but thanks anyway |
| 23:49.00 | seven_six_two | yes. cdrecord says 2.6.8 introduced incompatible interface changes |
| 23:49.10 | rbochan | deckrider: does amsn not do it? |
| 23:49.25 | deckrider | rbochan: I don't know actually.... |
| 23:49.38 | streuner | seven_six_two: connect the camera and run 'gphoto2 --list-files |
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| 23:50.32 | seven_six_two | damn. unknown model. i know it works though. i did it before with debian |
| 23:50.47 | sykopomp | hey, I'm on Sarge, and I'm having some problems getting ALSA to run properly on my system, I don't really know where to start. My problem is that sound is choppy and unstable. |
| 23:51.08 | seven_six_two | but it wasn't with a clc program. i though i just mounted and copied. i don't remember where the dev showed up last time |
| 23:51.40 | streuner | seven_six_two: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /somewhere |
| 23:52.52 | Eulex | seven_six_two, fdisk -l /dev/sda? |
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| 23:53.27 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
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| 23:55.13 | sykopomp | any ideas? |
| 23:55.39 | Eulex | sykopomp, are you sure you're running alsa? |
| 23:55.49 | seven_six_two | streuner, thats the one. i didn't think it was sda...thanks muchly |
| 23:55.59 | eowo | I set the ssid, chanel and the nick using ifconfig, is there anyhting i'm missing as my router isnt showing the debian box as attached? |
| 23:56.08 | sykopomp | Eulex... actually no, I'm not... |
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| 23:56.55 | sykopomp | not sure, taht is |
| 23:56.58 | Eulex | sykopomp, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
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| 23:57.13 | eowo | sorry i ment using iw config |
| 23:57.39 | kadigibox | Anyone in here take a linux certification test? I am wondering how hard it is. |
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| 23:59.29 | Eulex | sykopomp, working? |
