| 00:00.01 | redhand | ops, sorry... |
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| 00:00.14 | doub | anyone knows how to install grub on a usb hard drive? |
| 00:00.23 | jim | nvz: use the force, nuke! I am my father! |
| 00:00.30 | roswel | hi everybody |
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| 00:00.39 | nvz | something like that |
| 00:00.46 | FieldySnuts | ~irritate jim |
| 00:00.47 | apt | jim: wenas who uses sound hello? |
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| 00:01.21 | roswel | I just migrated from samba 2.2 to samba 3.0.14a, from woody to sarge, and my samba is dead now :( |
| 00:01.31 | nvz | I need to go lay down in the dark somewhere.. I am exausted and confused. not being of any help to anyone :P |
| 00:01.41 | roswel | btw I did not find any doc to help me to migrate from my old samba to the new one :( |
| 00:01.53 | jim | it's dead, jim |
| 00:01.55 | FieldySnuts | well no kidding .you jumped a major version and a very major version. no way the config file is going to be the same |
| 00:01.56 | roswel | All my users profiles are corrupted... |
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| 00:02.11 | redhand | FieldySnuts, i think the same thing |
| 00:02.14 | FieldySnuts | likely need to config from the start (nice testing before you did this, by the way) |
| 00:02.18 | Phroziac | Ok, it's pretty sad, but it looks like the sarge 14 disc set is ONLY binaries. ;/ |
| 00:02.23 | roswel | Does somebody have an idea about it? |
| 00:02.23 | jim | your users are corrupted??! that's the issue! |
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| 00:02.52 | Nebulous | roswel: check samba.org for any migration tools? |
| 00:02.58 | roswel | I checked |
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| 00:03.29 | kromagg | could anybody enlighten me on a good way to measure the total traffic through an ethernet device, in- and outbound? |
| 00:03.41 | roswel | Nebulous: i check and found nothing... I seem to be the only one with this problem... |
| 00:03.59 | Nebulous | roswel: are they actually corrupted, or just unusable with the new version? |
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| 00:05.00 | roswel | Nebulous: hummm actually I think they are corrupted... But i'm not so sure it's stored correctly on the samba side, but windows cannot retore the default, and I cannot edit my desktop preferences anymore.... |
| 00:05.14 | ice_1963 | i'm running gnome with sarge can i install kdegames ????? |
| 00:05.27 | nvz | ice_1963: nope not allowed. |
| 00:05.36 | redhand | ice_1963, yes... i'm running kaffeine at this moment on gnome |
| 00:05.41 | Nebulous | roswel: try setting 'encrypt passwords = no' in the smb.conf ? |
| 00:05.47 | nvz | ice_1963: you will be thrown out of the fraternal order of gnomes |
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| 00:06.01 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 00:06.02 | redhand | nvz, hahahahhaha |
| 00:06.20 | aurax | is there a way i can see my income/outcome over lan ? |
| 00:06.25 | redhand | kde games... i don't like them |
| 00:06.27 | aurax | without mrtg and all that stuff, easy mb/s |
| 00:06.36 | roswel | Nebulous: Actually, if I erase the old profile, and create a new one it work perfectly, but as soon as i try to use an old one, windows cannot restore anything, and i cannot edit my preference anymore |
| 00:06.45 | nvz | aurax: visit your banking website ? |
| 00:06.58 | aurax | huh? |
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| 00:07.16 | aurax | i just like to know if i can see my current in/outcome |
| 00:07.20 | nvz | aurax: without any context I assume you mean finances |
| 00:07.25 | aurax | noo |
| 00:07.25 | aurax | lol |
| 00:07.26 | Nebulous | roswel: from reading through the notes, it looks like they turned on encryption for passwords in 3.0 by default, and any accounts created prior to 3.0 won't work unless you specify not to use encrypted passwords |
| 00:07.27 | aurax | i said over lan |
| 00:07.38 | aurax | [03:06] <aurax> is there a way i can see my income/outcome over lan ? |
| 00:07.41 | aurax | over = of |
| 00:07.44 | aurax | 3am here :) |
| 00:08.07 | Nebulous | roswel: and I'm not sure what you mean by 'profile', user account? samba configuration file? |
| 00:08.12 | nvz | you could say something related to networking like upstream/downstream or something |
| 00:08.12 | aurax | the point is i got a dedicated @ iweb and every file i grab doesnt pass 50kb/s |
| 00:08.22 | nvz | income is a financial term |
| 00:08.25 | aurax | they say the uplink is ok and all but i done belive it |
| 00:08.27 | aurax | yeah nvz |
| 00:08.28 | aurax | i kno |
| 00:08.29 | roswel | Nebulous: I speak about my user roaming profile. I'm running samba as a PDC |
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| 00:08.40 | aurax | so i wanna know if its possible to see my current down/upstream |
| 00:08.41 | Phroziac | Hmm, i was wrong. Can't just copy the discs to the drive like that. they interfere with eachother. hmmm. |
| 00:08.57 | Nebulous | roswel: hmm, i've never played with that on samba. so users can authenticat to samba, but their profiles don't get moved over? |
| 00:09.08 | roswel | Nebulous: ACtually the account are working properly, but the user setting are not restored |
| 00:09.10 | redhand | anyone knows any repository of wine+winetools ? |
| 00:09.38 | roswel | Nebulous: the profile get moved over but seemed to be unusable by windows :( |
| 00:09.44 | aurax | redhand yeah, apt-get install wine wine-tools |
| 00:09.49 | aurax | ;p |
| 00:09.50 | Nebulous | roswel: check the permissions between the old profiles and the new ones that get successfully created? |
| 00:10.07 | aurax | Nebulous u have any idea how can i see my current up+down stream? |
| 00:10.17 | aurax | shell app |
| 00:10.19 | FieldySnuts | ~u |
| 00:10.19 | apt | It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1.. See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:10.24 | Nebulous | aurax: ethereal might tell you, but that's an X app |
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| 00:10.25 | redhand | aurax, they aren't on my repository list ;/ |
| 00:10.26 | aurax | Nebulous YOU have any idea how can i see my current up+down stream? |
| 00:10.31 | aurax | err |
| 00:10.36 | roswel | Nebulous: I did it. It's actually almost the same except a strange ACL |
| 00:10.40 | Phroziac | U is a dutch word for you. |
| 00:10.42 | roswel | with a user named default |
| 00:10.49 | aurax | !tell redhand about mirrors |
| 00:11.04 | elirips | hello. has someone an idea how i could make X execute a script on pressing a key-combination like alt+5 or something similar? i am using debian sarge with a 2.6.11 kernel. |
| 00:11.15 | aurax | smp? |
| 00:11.15 | Phroziac | Is there a howto for making a local apt mirror out of the cd set? |
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| 00:11.27 | aurax | what cpu u got ? |
| 00:11.50 | Nebulous | roswel: is that default owned acl present on the old profile or the new one? |
| 00:12.07 | roswel | Nebulous: on the new one |
| 00:12.19 | Nebulous | roswel: does it work if you copy that over to the old one? |
| 00:12.42 | roswel | Nebulous: I did not try |
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| 00:13.28 | roswel | Nebulous: I'll try, give me a minute |
| 00:13.38 | Nebulous | roswel: yeah, it woudln't hurt to try that |
| 00:13.50 | Nebulous | roswel: sort of a voodoo fix |
| 00:14.26 | ice_1963 | lol |
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| 00:15.29 | gnetux | help |
| 00:15.35 | gnetux | i need help |
| 00:15.46 | ice_1963 | me to |
| 00:15.47 | gnetux | to configure apt-get |
| 00:16.22 | gnetux | do you know where can i get source.list? |
| 00:16.35 | Nebulous | you can type it in |
| 00:16.38 | ice_1963 | for |
| 00:16.46 | ice_1963 | vi |
| 00:16.51 | gnetux | i should configure it |
| 00:17.06 | gnetux | but i don't know what to write in |
| 00:17.22 | redhand | bye for everyone |
| 00:17.44 | Nebulous | gnetux: type man sources.list -- it had some examples in it |
| 00:17.57 | ice_1963 | :0) |
| 00:18.06 | Nebulous | about 2 pages down |
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| 00:20.13 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:20.13 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939, or cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
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| 00:20.21 | abrotman | gnetux: apt-setup |
| 00:20.42 | gnetux | yes |
| 00:20.45 | abrotman | gnetux: apt-setup |
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| 00:21.08 | roswel | Nebulous: it doesn't change anything |
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| 00:21.53 | Nebulous | roswel: yeah, I'm not finding too much myself. one thing that did catch my eye is "profile acls = Yes" in the [profiles] section... |
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| 00:22.39 | abrotman | !boo |
| 00:23.08 | roswel | Nebulous: yes, It cacthed my eyes too. I tweaked it already, without any positive results :'( |
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| 00:23.29 | abrotman | ask #samba ? |
| 00:23.39 | Nebulous | well, i hope someone can help you figure it out, because i have to leave |
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| 00:23.57 | sparr_ | is there a debian-friendly way to parallelize the boot (init, specifically) processes? |
| 00:24.00 | abrotman | asstronaut: you cannot speak |
| 00:24.19 | abrotman | sparr_: debian - friendly .. not that i'm aware .. but IBM has a nice doc on it |
| 00:24.45 | abrotman | sparr_: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-boot.html?ca=dnt-437 |
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| 00:25.37 | martman | i heard you can run the netinstall installer over ssh but cant seem to find anything in the manual, any ever use this anychance? |
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| 00:26.25 | gnetux | <abrotman> Thenk you very much!!! |
| 00:26.28 | abrotman | martman: try starting it in expert mnode |
| 00:26.30 | abrotman | mode even |
| 00:26.31 | Stereo | random trivia a friend and I argue about: is a swap partition useless if you have lots of ram? |
| 00:26.34 | abrotman | gnetux: you're welcome |
| 00:26.42 | abrotman | Stereo: depends |
| 00:26.48 | abrotman | Stereo: define lots .. |
| 00:26.59 | martman | i dont hvave a monitor |
| 00:27.03 | abrotman | Stereo: and define the system standard usage |
| 00:27.04 | Stereo | more than you would ever need for the box's defined usage |
| 00:27.16 | Rawplayer | Stereo: is it? |
| 00:27.16 | abrotman | martman: oh .. you still have to hook monitor for a few minutes afaik |
| 00:27.19 | Stereo | standard usage would be, let's say, a mail server |
| 00:27.21 | Stereo | yeah |
| 00:27.30 | martman | abrotman dam....reaaaaaaaly hoping to avoid that |
| 00:27.32 | Rawplayer | whats a lot? |
| 00:27.37 | Rawplayer | 64 mb? |
| 00:27.43 | dad | lol! |
| 00:27.46 | abrotman | Stereo: let's put it this way .. if the system exhausts RAM and has no swap . it crashes |
| 00:27.59 | abrotman | Stereo: does that answer your question ? |
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| 00:28.13 | martman | abrotman what if i net boot the sucker? |
| 00:28.19 | martman | will that do anything for me? |
| 00:28.20 | Stereo | doesn't it crash if it exhausts the swap too? |
| 00:28.21 | abrotman | martman: you mean pxe ? |
| 00:28.27 | martman | yeah |
| 00:28.39 | FieldySnuts | no, the kernel will start randomly killing things |
| 00:28.47 | abrotman | martman: you still have to .. start it .. martman you might .. get away with FAI |
| 00:28.48 | flosch | is there a way to install kde from "testing"? |
| 00:28.48 | abrotman | !fai |
| 00:28.48 | FieldySnuts | it doesn't always have the chance to do this however, and it can hang hard |
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| 00:29.01 | Stereo | ah yes, true |
| 00:29.02 | copyleft | apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common returns: E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-common |
| 00:29.03 | abrotman | Stereo: if it can't kill things .. it will die .. |
| 00:29.15 | gentgeen__ | How can I replace every colon in a text file with a line break? |
| 00:29.17 | martman | abrotman hmmmm, which a "linux ssh" at boot would work lol |
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| 00:29.19 | Rawplayer | apt-cache search nvidia |
| 00:29.20 | abrotman | Stereo: but yes .. FieldySnuts is right .. ideally the system will start killing processes if available memory gets low |
| 00:29.29 | Stereo | had this happen to me a couple of years ago |
| 00:29.33 | abrotman | gentgeen__: sed |
| 00:29.37 | copyleft | Rawplayer: returns nothing, tried it :( |
| 00:29.42 | copyleft | just a program that id ont need |
| 00:29.44 | Stereo | abrotman: but only if it has swap? |
| 00:29.44 | abrotman | Stereo: yes .. swap is important |
| 00:29.48 | martman | maybe i can get a floppy distro to start ssh and then run the installer from cd |
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| 00:30.06 | abrotman | Stereo: should happen no matter what .. but memory leaks can happen fast .. swap helps |
| 00:30.15 | Stereo | uh huh |
| 00:30.22 | dad | hey, i have a debian testing system. aptitude says there's all these dependency problems, but the packages it's saying are needed are installed - any idea how to tell aptitude to re-scan and re-figure dependencies? |
| 00:30.26 | abrotman | martman: hrm |
| 00:30.28 | abrotman | !phys |
| 00:30.30 | abrotman | no .. |
| 00:30.31 | abrotman | !dphys |
| 00:30.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: where is it! |
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| 00:30.56 | Stereo | cool, I think this settles our bet |
| 00:31.01 | abrotman | Stereo: does it ? |
| 00:31.05 | abrotman | Stereo: might want to ask #kernel also |
| 00:31.13 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, sed -e 's/:/\n' FILENAME ? |
| 00:31.14 | Stereo | yeah. I think I won. |
| 00:31.17 | Stereo | will do |
| 00:31.21 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: is dpkg dying again? |
| 00:31.21 | Stereo | cheers abrotman :) |
| 00:31.28 | gentgeen__ | is \n gonna do it? |
| 00:31.28 | Stereo | thanks FieldySnuts too |
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| 00:31.35 | abrotman | gentgeen__: might have to escape \n |
| 00:31.41 | FieldySnuts | ;) |
| 00:31.51 | gentgeen__ | \\n right? |
| 00:31.55 | abrotman | try it |
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| 00:32.03 | FieldySnuts | \\badger |
| 00:32.08 | abrotman | since you didn't redirect .. it's just going to the screen . you'll know quickly |
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| 00:32.42 | gentgeen__ | -e expression #1, char 7: unterminated `s' command |
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| 00:33.00 | abrotman | gentgeen__: put a / at the end |
| 00:33.04 | abrotman | before the ' |
| 00:33.09 | abrotman | might want a /g also |
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| 00:34.47 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, thanks for the help -- Just FYI- sed -e 's/:/\n/g' FILENAME did the trick |
| 00:35.20 | Technel | Hello, I have chose to switch from Slackware to Debian. I download the image for the netinstall and burned it to a CD. I have a dual-boot between Slackware and Windows XP. They are both on separate harddrives (with hda1 beind primary/windows and hdb2 being slave/linux). I want to erase Slackware. Now, on the partition page, I selected the second harddrive and I selected "All files on one partition"? Is this correct? I am skeptical be |
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| 00:36.08 | abrotman | gentgeen__: good |
| 00:36.26 | abrotman | !ig |
| 00:36.30 | abrotman | @ig |
| 00:36.36 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: dpkg is having issues |
| 00:36.45 | abrotman | apparently ravenbird is too ... |
| 00:36.48 | abrotman | ~hi |
| 00:36.48 | apt | hello, abrotman |
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| 00:36.51 | abrotman | @hi |
| 00:36.59 | abrotman | ~ig |
| 00:36.59 | apt | hmm... install guide is http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ or http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst or if you're totally clueless read http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016&page=1 too |
| 00:36.59 | shingouz | !test |
| 00:37.02 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 00:37.05 | shingouz | hah |
| 00:37.07 | abrotman | shingouz: he's toast afaict |
| 00:37.20 | shingouz | so it seems. he needs to lay off the weed |
| 00:37.23 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i think ravenbird is dying |
| 00:37.24 | Tuyn | anyone have an idea how to fix "Fatal server error: addscreen/screeninit failed for driver 0"? |
| 00:37.37 | abrotman | Tuyn: check your /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 00:37.58 | abrotman | Technel: then manually do it |
| 00:38.08 | Technel | abrotman: Yeah, okay. |
| 00:38.08 | Tuyn | how do you check it? what command? |
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| 00:38.21 | shingouz | Tuyn: less is good for that |
| 00:38.31 | abrotman | Tuyn: less .. cat .. more ... vi... nano .. nvi |
| 00:39.03 | Tuyn | no such file or directory.... |
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| 00:39.21 | Tuyn | ive tried cat and just tried less same error :( |
| 00:40.06 | RetroMan | i have a general debian philosophy question |
| 00:40.09 | shingouz | Tuyn: how about ls the directory and see if you see something that would be applicable then? like XFree86.log or something? |
| 00:40.23 | gnetux | how could i discover wich verison of xfree is installed on my pc??? |
| 00:40.23 | Venson | RetroMan: all is one and one is all |
| 00:40.30 | shingouz | Tuyn: it should be the file abrotman mentioned though |
| 00:40.33 | abrotman | gnetux: dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
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| 00:40.42 | abrotman | shingouz: unless he has xorg |
| 00:40.44 | Tuyn | so do ls /var/log/xfree86.0.log? |
| 00:41.03 | gnetux | thanks |
| 00:41.04 | shingouz | abrotman: true. or runs something odd |
| 00:41.04 | RetroMan | lets say I have packageA installed, and lots of packages depend on it... lets say I want to upgrade packageA one day, but thre is no official package built yet. What is the best way to handle this? |
| 00:41.13 | EvilSporkMan | my DVD burner has failed very soon after startup in K3B with the message "resource temporarily unavailable" twice now. I am writing to DVD+R at 4x; the burner is supposed to support 8x burning but trying this gave me a buffer underflow. I have successfully burned DVDs on runs prior to this and i have not rebooted since. what could be causing this error? |
| 00:41.21 | shingouz | Tuyn: no. ls /var/log |
| 00:41.24 | EvilSporkMan | oh, and I'm on AMD64 running testing |
| 00:41.25 | Tuyn | it says the info can be found in /var/log/xfree86.0.log but cant figure out how to look at it or what to fix |
| 00:41.32 | RetroMan | Using checkinstall is nice, but I get a failure when it tries to overwrite data from packageA |
| 00:41.44 | shingouz | Tuyn: in that case less that file then |
| 00:41.50 | RetroMan | and I cant remove packageA, because apt wants to remove everythign that dpeend on it too |
| 00:41.51 | FieldySnuts | ~samir |
| 00:41.51 | apt | Yes, this is horrible, this idea! |
| 00:42.10 | gnetux | can i convert *.rpm to *.deb? |
| 00:42.16 | abrotman | Tuyn: unix is case sensitive |
| 00:42.21 | abrotman | gnetux: yes |
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| 00:42.28 | gnetux | how? |
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| 00:42.32 | abrotman | !alien |
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| 00:42.41 | FieldySnuts | forgeiners? |
| 00:42.44 | gnetux | only with alien? |
| 00:43.07 | EvilSporkMan | yes, you can only convert RPM to deb with the utility for converting RPM to deb |
| 00:43.20 | gnetux | i want to install my radeon's driver but it's an rpm |
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| 00:44.29 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 00:44.59 | ryden | !ati debs |
| 00:45.02 | ryden | O_o |
| 00:45.09 | shingouz | @ati debs |
| 00:45.16 | shingouz | fsck.. |
| 00:45.20 | shingouz | ~ati debs |
| 00:45.20 | apt | rumour has it, ati debs is http://space.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina@tin.it/debian/fglrx-installer.html, or http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 00:45.21 | Tuyn | abrotman: yeah just noticed and cussed at myself like a red headed step child |
| 00:46.05 | ryden | ~aarich |
| 00:47.02 | Tuyn | .... |
| 00:47.05 | Tuyn | mother.... |
| 00:47.16 | Tuyn | changed it to 8 colors and it finally loaded the gui |
| 00:47.21 | sparr_ | dependency information is implicit in the numbering of rc.d links, so parallelization cannot be done perfectly automatically. however, services with the SAME order number can be parallelized. are there any tools to accomplish this? i notice over half of my links are order number 20, and there is also a large chunk at 99, those could be done in parallel to save time. |
| 00:47.34 | Tuyn | too bad i can only see like a fourth of the screen at once and the mouse doesnt work |
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| 00:48.51 | Tuyn | ok mouse issue resolved |
| 00:49.04 | shingouz | Tuyn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 <-- as root |
| 00:49.05 | Tuyn | so is there an easy way to change the resolution in debian? |
| 00:49.17 | Tuyn | that the only way to change the resolution? |
| 00:50.10 | shingouz | Tuyn: pretty much. why would you like to change the resolution all the time in anycase. once is enough ;) |
| 00:50.33 | Tuyn | yeah.... |
| 00:50.45 | abrotman | ~reboot dpkg |
| 00:50.49 | Tuyn | still though, need to figure out drivers for video card so i can get more than one color |
| 00:50.59 | Tuyn | more than 8 colors i mean |
| 00:51.09 | abrotman | spoiled children .. |
| 00:51.14 | shingouz | ~tell Tuyn about ati debs |
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| 00:55.02 | EvilSporkMan | is dpkg broken? |
| 00:55.08 | EvilSporkMan | topic might want to mention that =\ |
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| 00:56.51 | Technel | Okay, I had Debian overwrite the partition Slackware was on, but when the GRUB bootloader prompt came up, it said it detected Windows XP and Slackware??!? Shouldn't Slackware be long gone..? |
| 00:57.09 | gnetux | /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 175: fakeroot: command not found??? |
| 00:58.15 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: he's been broken a lot lately .. |
| 00:58.56 | Thanatermesis | X server its a device in /dev ? |
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| 01:00.23 | Tuyn | fdlskflahfjdhskfjasdhfjkahdfjksdhafjkl |
| 01:00.26 | Tuyn | stupid damn thing |
| 01:01.20 | Akbar | Thanatermesis.. no |
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| 01:01.57 | Akbar | it's a gui framework |
| 01:02.12 | Thanatermesis | :( |
| 01:02.24 | Thanatermesis | not is posible to use with a normal device/file? :( |
| 01:02.33 | Technel | This channel has more messages about people joining/leaving than actual talking :D |
| 01:02.43 | Akbar | hahah |
| 01:02.53 | dad | hey, i have a debian testing system. aptitude says there's all these dependency problems, but the packages it's saying are needed are installed - any idea how to tell aptitude to re-scan and re-figure dependencies? |
| 01:03.09 | dad | or do i have the whole thing wrong? |
| 01:03.15 | dockane | i read a lot about linux and problems wiht fonts ... but i could not find anything to my particular problem. overall i am happy with the fonts, but in firefox the 'i' on _some pages gets rendered very strange: it joints other letter randomly and ligatures the wordl has not seen before. any ideas ? |
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| 01:04.43 | dockane | this makes the picture of the text very nervous |
| 01:05.21 | abrotman | Technel: wrong time of day |
| 01:05.35 | abrotman | dad: apt-get update |
| 01:05.43 | EvilSporkMan | Technel: do you have a separate partition for /boot? |
| 01:05.47 | abrotman | !fonts |
| 01:05.52 | abrotman | ~fonts |
| 01:05.52 | apt | rumour has it, fonts is check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html for installing packaged as well as not packaged truetype fonts, http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html and you can get the MS core fonts from http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ now |
| 01:05.52 | Phroziac | hey, apt keeps bitching about my locale not being set. How can i set it? (its actually perl bitching, but it happens when i run apt) |
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| 01:06.03 | abrotman | Phroziac: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 01:06.05 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 01:06.05 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 01:06.06 | dad | abrotman: hmmm |
| 01:06.11 | abrotman | dpkg: are you fixed? |
| 01:06.27 | abrotman | ~fix dpkg |
| 01:06.27 | apt | ACTION takes dpkg to the vet for a "special" visit. |
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| 01:06.40 | Phroziac | abrotman: haha, it complains about the locales when i do that too :D |
| 01:06.44 | Phroziac | anyway, thanks. |
| 01:06.51 | abrotman | Phroziac: yes .. but that's how you fix it |
| 01:06.53 | litage | can debian run on Dell or HP high performance production servers? |
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| 01:07.02 | Technel | I had Debian install itself on my second harddrive with the "Erase all files" features, and yet, ironically, Slackware 10.1 (which was on the harddrive before) is still there! |
| 01:07.04 | abrotman | litage: why wouldn't you be able to? |
| 01:07.07 | dondelelcaro | litage: if the kernel can, Debian can. |
| 01:07.17 | gnetux | to know wich kernel is in use??? |
| 01:07.26 | abrotman | what is a dell high performance server anyways ? |
| 01:07.32 | abrotman | gnetux: uname -a |
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| 01:07.57 | Phroziac | hmm. en.ISO-8859-1...cannot open locale definition file `en': No such file or directory |
| 01:08.01 | Phroziac | other then that, it worked |
| 01:08.13 | abrotman | cute |
| 01:08.17 | EvilSporkMan | Technel: grub doesn't "detect" the distro |
| 01:08.24 | Phroziac | By the way, how can i switch locales? is there a howto? |
| 01:08.31 | abrotman | Phroziac: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 01:08.34 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:08.36 | litage | abrotman: i'm not sure if debian supports that various, high-end hardware |
| 01:08.36 | abrotman | !locales |
| 01:08.37 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. You can override this in your personal dotfiles, of course (see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles) |
| 01:08.48 | abrotman | litage: such as ... ? |
| 01:08.49 | Phroziac | ok, the dotfiles is what i wanted. |
| 01:09.04 | flosch | is there a way to install kde from "testing" instead of "unstable"? |
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| 01:09.07 | MrRagga | http://www.durak.org/sean/pubs/kfc/ ;) |
| 01:09.11 | EvilSporkMan | Technel: there's an entry in the grub configuration files that gives the text to show with each operating system. you must have grub installed somewhere on the first hard drive? |
| 01:09.13 | litage | abrotman: whatever's usually in things like a blade server |
| 01:09.14 | abrotman | flosch: on what ? |
| 01:09.15 | Phroziac | I really speak english but having the system in dutch would help me learn dutch. |
| 01:09.21 | abrotman | litage: does dell make blades ? |
| 01:09.32 | abrotman | Phroziac: you're weird :) |
| 01:09.34 | flosch | abrotman, unstable... the unstable packages are broken, but i want to install KDE .. :/ .. |
| 01:09.35 | litage | abrotman: not sure about dell, but hp does |
| 01:09.40 | abrotman | i know HP does .. |
| 01:09.52 | abrotman | litage: those HP blades *used* to come woth debian installed .. i |
| 01:09.56 | abrotman | i'm not sure they do now |
| 01:10.00 | abrotman | with debian |
| 01:10.12 | abrotman | flosch: i doubt it would work |
| 01:10.13 | litage | abrotman: ah sweet. right now you can choose between redhat, suse and openvms |
| 01:10.20 | dondelelcaro | litage: again, if the kernel supports the hardware, odds are Debian supports it. |
| 01:10.31 | flosch | :( |
| 01:10.31 | litage | dondelelcaro: awesome |
| 01:10.33 | litage | thanks guys |
| 01:10.35 | abrotman | litage: you should get the model .. then try google "model# debian" |
| 01:10.36 | dondelelcaro | the OS vendor may not support Debian, but that's not our problem. |
| 01:10.39 | dad | litage: it's actually the kernel that supports hardare - Debian provides the user space, daemon, and librarys to glue it all togather |
| 01:10.53 | litage | thanks, i will |
| 01:11.14 | abrotman | why doesn't dell sell blades ? |
| 01:11.17 | Technel | EvilSporkMan: The first harddrive is Windows XP, so no, GRUB is not on there |
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| 01:11.40 | abrotman | Technel: first partition ? |
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| 01:12.34 | Technel | abrotman: Here is the deal. I have two harddrives, 160gb and 30gb. The 160 is for Windows, 30 is for Linux. (hda and hdb). I chose to clear the second harddrive, but GRUB still allows me to access Slackware -- which should have been formatted |
| 01:12.48 | Technel | and GRUB was not installed before, LILO was |
| 01:12.50 | abrotman | Technel: did you have the installer install grub ? |
| 01:13.27 | abrotman | Technel: did you not partition the second hdd ? |
| 01:13.27 | Technel | yes |
| 01:13.30 | maher | Technel: are you sure it boots slackware and not debian? |
| 01:13.50 | abrotman | why doesn't amazon total the wishlist again |
| 01:13.51 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:14.05 | Technel | maher: Judging by the fact that I had XFCE installed on Slackware, my home folder was still there, and I didn't finish setting up Debian yet --yes |
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| 01:14.27 | WiFiTux | is there any debian app that will scan by PC for security problems? |
| 01:14.30 | WiFiTux | Auditor? |
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| 01:14.47 | WiFiTux | iptables, users... bla bla |
| 01:14.48 | Technel | abrotman: Well, I just selected "Erase Primary Slave hdb (30gb / whatever...)" |
| 01:14.49 | EvilSporkMan | Technel: slackware may put /home on its own partition...run cfdisk /dev/hdb and see if there's more than one partition. for good measure, do it for hda too |
| 01:15.09 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: uh, the typical one is chkroot; but that's looking for a particular class of issues. |
| 01:15.10 | Phroziac | What's it doing that takes so long when it's generating a locale? |
| 01:15.27 | maher | Technel: look for /etc/debian_version |
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| 01:15.32 | Technel | EvilSporkMan: Is it possible that Slackware created an ext3 partition on hda? Because I noticed that...and SWAP as well |
| 01:15.34 | abrotman | Phroziac: pickin boogers |
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| 01:15.58 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro: hhmm I wonder if I'm secure enough. I have iptables blocking all external but 80 ssh and hostname |
| 01:16.04 | EvilSporkMan | Technel: yep, certainly possible...how big is the partition on hda? interesting that swap would be there too |
| 01:16.12 | abrotman | WiFiTux: that's different |
| 01:16.24 | WaREX | I having problems with backstreet ruby in using "nvidia" driver: whe I run with "nv" it works for 2 heads, but fails if I use the "nvidia" driver on XFree86 |
| 01:16.25 | abrotman | WiFiTux: you want a port scanner .. not a system auditor ? |
| 01:16.30 | WiFiTux | abrotman: that is part of security. |
| 01:16.39 | WiFiTux | a system auditor, yes |
| 01:16.42 | abrotman | WiFiTux: you said auditor .. you want a port scanner .. i think |
| 01:16.46 | WiFiTux | port scanner comes with gnome :) |
| 01:16.51 | abrotman | it does? |
| 01:16.55 | WiFiTux | Does |
| 01:16.59 | abrotman | dunno . |
| 01:17.02 | EvilSporkMan | WiFiTux: you can have all your ports open and still be secure afaik |
| 01:17.03 | Technel | EvilSporkMan: 160gb |
| 01:17.13 | EvilSporkMan | Technel: er, the ext3 partition |
| 01:17.14 | WiFiTux | I know. I now want an Auditor |
| 01:17.18 | Phroziac | abrotman: seriously |
| 01:17.22 | WiFiTux | EvilSporkMan: :) yeah, I removed windows |
| 01:17.24 | abrotman | Phroziac: pickin ass ? |
| 01:17.31 | mark_ | hi everyone, I'm having a problem with pam_ldap... |
| 01:17.32 | Technel | EvilSporkMan: oh, it was like 30mb or something -- and there was like 5mb swap |
| 01:17.36 | abrotman | WiFiTux: you could use tripwire |
| 01:17.37 | mark_ | from /var/log/auth.log (client) "Invalid user maksym from ::ffff:127.0.0.1" |
| 01:17.44 | EvilSporkMan | Technel: that was probably /boot |
| 01:17.45 | abrotman | mark_: sorry .. that was me |
| 01:17.46 | mark_ | more info at: http://pastebin.com/328874 |
| 01:17.48 | WiFiTux | abrotman: what does that do? |
| 01:17.49 | dondelelcaro | Phroziac: it really doesn't take that long unless you're building all of the locales or your machine is slow. |
| 01:17.53 | Technel | EvilSporkMan: For LILO? |
| 01:17.55 | abrotman | WiFiTux: apt-cache show tripwire |
| 01:18.01 | abrotman | !tripwire |
| 01:18.01 | dpkg | [tripwire] a File System integrity checker for "Intrusion Detection" using cyrptographic checksums such as MD5 and Blowfish. Layman's terms: It tells you if you've been haX03d and 0w3n3d.. Use AIDE instead, or for open source tripwire see http://www.tripwire.org/, and for CVS instructions see http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3130 |
| 01:18.07 | Technel | (which I installed to the MBR when Slack was installed) |
| 01:18.11 | WiFiTux | abrotman: yeah, I;m on ti |
| 01:18.23 | mark_ | abrotman: eh? |
| 01:18.24 | abrotman | WiFiTux: apt-cache search security audit |
| 01:18.27 | Phroziac | dondelelcaro: 233mhz :) it didnt take long at all on the real computer. |
| 01:18.27 | abrotman | mark_: joke! |
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| 01:18.43 | abrotman | Phroziac: yes .. that wil take a bit |
| 01:18.45 | dondelelcaro | Phroziac: it still shouldn't take that long |
| 01:18.56 | dondelelcaro | (unless you're building a bunch of locales that you won't actually use) |
| 01:18.59 | WiFiTux | abrotman: I don't know why I even ask. I know I have to go there |
| 01:19.01 | dondelelcaro | (or have no memory) |
| 01:19.04 | abrotman | how long has he been building it ? |
| 01:19.09 | Phroziac | dondelelcaro: dondelelcaro just en and nl |
| 01:19.11 | Technel | Okay, I created a Net Install disc to install Debian. When prompted, I said that I wanted to choose which packages to download. It downloaded some things, and goes to the login. What happened to me selecting the packages I want? |
| 01:19.12 | mark_ | abrotman: sorry... was up far too late trying the crack this problem... |
| 01:19.27 | abrotman | Technel: try aptitude or tasksel |
| 01:19.38 | abrotman | tasksel .. super generic .. probably not what you want |
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| 01:19.56 | adsadsad | hi all |
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| 01:20.39 | dondelelcaro | iirc, the "I want to decide which packages to install" is equivalent to "Don't install anything for me, I'll install it myself" |
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| 01:21.15 | Technel | abrotman: aptitude looks like what I need -- is it possible to get XFCE from there instead of GNOME? |
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| 01:21.40 | adsadsad | how can i exclude packages the from the sarge base system? how can tell it to the debian-installer? |
| 01:21.50 | maher | Technel: if you've installed base just install what you need |
| 01:21.52 | dondelelcaro | Technel: it's possible to install any package you want from there. |
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| 01:22.02 | adsadsad | i want only the kernel and apt-get to post manually install what i want |
| 01:22.03 | bernouli | nmap os scan is interesting right? |
| 01:22.16 | Technel | Okay, then I assume it is in there. Cool |
| 01:22.19 | dondelelcaro | adsadsad: the base install is minimal; if there are packages that it installs that you don't want, remove them later. |
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| 01:22.27 | maher | adsadsad: base is called base cos it contains useful things like libc and perl |
| 01:22.29 | WiFiTux | abrotman: there are 2 nessuss or tiget. |
| 01:22.33 | WiFiTux | tiger |
| 01:22.34 | adsadsad | the sarge base system seems too huge for my old pc :) |
| 01:22.38 | maher | adsadsad: which i assume you want |
| 01:22.48 | Phroziac | ok its done by the way. |
| 01:22.58 | adsadsad | i don't want libc and ppp ecc ecc |
| 01:23.02 | abrotman | Technel: yes |
| 01:23.10 | WiFiTux | adsadsad: woody r0cks! |
| 01:23.10 | abrotman | WiFiTux: are you asking or teling ? |
| 01:23.18 | adsadsad | i don't use this things, i don't compile ecc only a server with apache |
| 01:23.23 | maher | adsadsad: how big is the hd? |
| 01:23.23 | abrotman | adsadsad: you don't want libc ? |
| 01:23.24 | dondelelcaro | adsadsad: uh... you realize that EVERYTHING depends on some version of libc? |
| 01:23.26 | WiFiTux | abrotman: both? Just in case people has heard of a recomended one |
| 01:23.31 | adsadsad | 100 |
| 01:23.34 | adsadsad | mb |
| 01:23.37 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: hey .. give him some slack :) |
| 01:23.42 | WiFiTux | :/ |
| 01:23.58 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i see a client and a server |
| 01:24.03 | FieldySnuts | if you remove libc, you will permanently fuck your install |
| 01:24.06 | adsadsad | oh yes i want the shared libaries of libc but nothing more |
| 01:24.13 | WiFiTux | abrotman: yeah, too complicated. I rather try tiger :) |
| 01:24.17 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: no .. there won't be an install :) |
| 01:24.21 | dad | adsadsad: knoppix |
| 01:24.26 | dondelelcaro | adsadsad: the only stuff that is installed is the base system unless you select something else. |
| 01:24.29 | abrotman | adsadsad: DO NOT TOUCH libc |
| 01:24.33 | dondelelcaro | dad: that won't help him at all. |
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| 01:24.42 | dad | :( |
| 01:24.42 | BhaalWK | Whats the easiest way of getting a screen snapshot in X these days? |
| 01:24.52 | FieldySnuts | import -window root (part of imagemagick) |
| 01:24.53 | dondelelcaro | BhaalWK: import -window root foo.png |
| 01:24.55 | WiFiTux | BhaalWK: PrintScreen? |
| 01:24.58 | adsadsad | i get a base system of 200 mb |
| 01:24.59 | abrotman | !tell BhaalWK about screenshot |
| 01:25.09 | adsadsad | without select nothing |
| 01:25.11 | dondelelcaro | adsadsad: then you're not using the expert install. |
| 01:25.14 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: same issue as before with dpkg ? |
| 01:25.20 | BhaalWK | Thanks |
| 01:25.28 | WiFiTux | adsadsad: a new installed sarge is 370mb |
| 01:25.29 | adsadsad | yes i do expert26 at the bootprompt |
| 01:25.29 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: nah, different. |
| 01:25.32 | abrotman | !tell adsadsad about deborphan |
| 01:25.47 | Technel | Okay, say I want to download everything in a certain category. I press enter when it is selected, but it doesn't actually select all of the files...(aptitude) |
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| 01:26.11 | dondelelcaro | Technel: hit ? to see the help. It's + to install. |
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| 01:26.20 | litage | what file extension does a printer driver have? i'm trying to install a printer in OOo but am having difficulty supplying it with drivers |
| 01:26.27 | Technel | dondelelcaro: Oh, okay |
| 01:26.34 | FieldySnuts | extensions don't mean anything in the linux world |
| 01:26.40 | adsadsad | can i use deborphant in the install steps? |
| 01:26.49 | litage | FieldySnuts: i know, but usually files still have extensions |
| 01:26.50 | nono31 | is there any Java code in OpenOffice2 ?? debian tree say that it depends on libhsqldb-java ... weird!! |
| 01:26.58 | dondelelcaro | adsadsad: if you really need anything more minimal than that, just use debootstrap to do the install. |
| 01:27.01 | FieldySnuts | nono31: yes, a TON |
| 01:27.13 | maher | litage: are you using cups? |
| 01:27.17 | nono31 | FieldySnuts: a TON ? what means? |
| 01:27.18 | dondelelcaro | adsadsad: you can then chroot and do whatever you want with the resultant absolutely minimal install. |
| 01:27.20 | adsadsad | dondelelcaro: so i should use debuan from scratch? |
| 01:27.30 | litage | maher: yes |
| 01:27.45 | dondelelcaro | adsadsad: NO. Use debootstrap. This has nothing to do with debian from scratch. |
| 01:27.48 | litage | maher: but OOo doesn't list any printers that are configured in cups |
| 01:27.49 | maher | litage: point a browser to localhost:631 to configure cups |
| 01:27.59 | litage | maher: cups is already config'd |
| 01:28.08 | adsadsad | ah, trying |
| 01:28.15 | maher | litage: are your printers working outside OO? |
| 01:28.18 | gnetux | mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified |
| 01:28.20 | adsadsad | thank all, for now :) |
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| 01:28.24 | litage | maher: yes |
| 01:28.39 | gnetux | why i cant mount my win partition??? |
| 01:28.39 | RogueDopple | OO has a utility to add your rpinter |
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| 01:28.49 | abrotman | gnetux: ntfs ? |
| 01:28.52 | dondelelcaro | !tell gnetux -about ntfsrw |
| 01:28.52 | Phroziac | Ok that dotfiles thing is huge and tells alot of stuff i already know, and i'm too lazy to read it. Is there a "howto use a different locale per user"? |
| 01:28.53 | gnetux | yes |
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| 01:29.00 | litage | RogueDopple: yes: spadmin |
| 01:29.01 | dvs | gnetux: Cause you're doing it wrong |
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| 01:29.25 | litage | RogueDopple: but spadmin's not finding any printer drivers on my system |
| 01:29.27 | gnetux | so what i should do??? |
| 01:29.31 | abrotman | !tell Phroziac about locale |
| 01:29.39 | FieldySnuts | lay off more than one ? to start |
| 01:29.39 | RogueDopple | weird |
| 01:29.45 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: why??? |
| 01:29.46 | Phroziac | thanks. i think. |
| 01:29.48 | RogueDopple | wierd |
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| 01:30.24 | Phroziac | Oh, by the way, that bot message should maybe be adjusted, unless it's supposed to sound that funny. |
| 01:30.41 | dondelelcaro | Phroziac: you'll have to be way less vague |
| 01:30.43 | dvs | gnetux: For starters, make sure you have the ntfs kernel module loaded |
| 01:30.52 | gnetux | how? |
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| 01:30.58 | FieldySnuts | geez |
| 01:31.00 | mentor | !locale |
| 01:31.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, locale is something to help you using an application you don't understand because it's written in a language you don't know, by making you not understand it in a language you know. <man 7 locale> for real information. |
| 01:31.05 | dvs | gnetux: lsmod |
| 01:31.06 | Phroziac | lol |
| 01:31.08 | mentor | heh |
| 01:31.12 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:31.12 | SimonRaven | someone pinged me? |
| 01:31.12 | dondelelcaro | !factinfo locale |
| 01:31.13 | dpkg | locale -- last modified at Wed Jul 6 12:52:14 2005 by greycat!rfc1413@wooledge.org; it has been requested 7 times, last by mentor, 13s ago. |
| 01:31.16 | mentor | no. It's meant to be like that. |
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| 01:31.31 | Phroziac | ok, well, I like it. |
| 01:31.32 | abrotman | SimonRaven: ravenbird is . dead maybe? |
| 01:31.34 | abrotman | @hi |
| 01:31.35 | FieldySnuts | that's great |
| 01:31.38 | mark_ | SimonRaven: ldap god... |
| 01:31.41 | abrotman | SimonRaven: or hates me |
| 01:31.46 | SimonRaven | abrotman: why do you think ravenbird is dying? |
| 01:31.46 | dvs | !ding |
| 01:31.47 | dpkg | [ding] some york term meaning fat common people. a dictionary, http://www.freshmeat.net/projects/ding/ |
| 01:31.52 | SimonRaven | mark_: hardly |
| 01:31.52 | abrotman | @test |
| 01:31.53 | FieldySnuts | @abuse dvs |
| 01:31.55 | gnetux | and what should i see there??? :( |
| 01:31.58 | abrotman | ravenbird: love me |
| 01:31.58 | SimonRaven | lemme test |
| 01:31.58 | ravenbird | abrotman: i don't know |
| 01:32.01 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 01:32.03 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:32.05 | SimonRaven | oh |
| 01:32.06 | mark_ | SimonRaven: still having a problem with pam_ldap (well you know more than me) |
| 01:32.22 | mentor | !dinf #~ s/some york term meaning fat common people./ |
| 01:32.23 | mentor | !dinf #~ s/some york term meaning fat common people.// |
| 01:32.24 | FieldySnuts | SimonRaven: someone's been deleting a lot of factoids in apt, maybe somebody is doing it to ravenbird as well |
| 01:32.26 | SimonRaven | @test2 |
| 01:32.27 | ravenbird | No I'm not online anymore |
| 01:32.28 | mentor | ferg |
| 01:32.34 | abrotman | mentor: ok |
| 01:32.38 | mentor | !ding =~ s/some york term meaning fat common people.// |
| 01:32.38 | dpkg | mentor: OK |
| 01:32.38 | SimonRaven | lost contact with the db |
| 01:32.39 | abrotman | @date fiberin |
| 01:32.49 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.51 | gnetux | no there is no ntfs module |
| 01:32.54 | mentor | sniff...at least abrotman understands me |
| 01:32.56 | WaREX | how to make the initrd using make-kpkg? i've read the debian-kernel-recompile without a clue! |
| 01:32.57 | TuxRazor | XF86Config-4 problem........... Fatal error: no screen found |
| 01:33.09 | abrotman | mentor: I'm fluent in =~ :) |
| 01:33.11 | SimonRaven | WaREX: why do you want an initrd? |
| 01:33.15 | dondelelcaro | WaREX: if you're using make-kpkg, you almost never want an initrd. |
| 01:33.18 | mentor | and #~ |
| 01:33.19 | dvs | gnetux: Then load it |
| 01:33.19 | mentor | ? |
| 01:33.23 | SimonRaven | mark_: same as yesterday? |
| 01:33.37 | abrotman | ravenbird: mhb |
| 01:33.37 | ravenbird | abrotman: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 01:33.41 | mark_ | SimonRaven: well yes but I've progress a bit |
| 01:33.42 | WaREX | SimonRaven: i'm getting a VFS: cannot open root device "hda1" |
| 01:33.47 | mentor | PEBCAK |
| 01:33.49 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: taking to the wrong bot |
| 01:33.50 | gnetux | dvs: how |
| 01:33.54 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i know .. |
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| 01:34.00 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: ravenbird wasn't responding earlier |
| 01:34.08 | TuxRazor | XF86Config-4 problem........... Fatal error: no screen found. Can anyone help me? I've been editing the file all day! x.x |
| 01:34.08 | dvs | gnetux: You're new to linux, aren't you? |
| 01:34.13 | litage | would a printer driver be a .ppd.gz, or .xml, or..? |
| 01:34.18 | abrotman | TuxRazor: look in the error file ? |
| 01:34.24 | gnetux | dvs:ehm |
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| 01:34.31 | gnetux | dvs:yes |
| 01:34.32 | maher | litage: i don't think that's the problem |
| 01:34.34 | abrotman | !tell TuxRazor about no screens found |
| 01:34.36 | SimonRaven | WaREX: and you think an initrd is going to help? no, build in your drivers for like oh, i don't know, filesystem, the bus(ses) the hard drives are sitting on, that kind of thing |
| 01:34.43 | dvs | gnetux: As root, modprobe ntfs |
| 01:34.47 | mark_ | SimonRaven: "getent group" lists both ldap and user password, but still can not ssh using ldap user (http://pastebin.com/328874) |
| 01:34.53 | WaREX | so i need to know if it is the lack of initrd |
| 01:34.55 | SimonRaven | mark_: well, progress is good |
| 01:34.59 | litage | maher: what might be the problem then? |
| 01:35.03 | Phroziac | Ok, man 7 locale wasn't exactly what i was looking for. i'm not coding anything, i just want a user to have a different language then default. |
| 01:35.10 | gnetux | dvs:and it will work any time i poweron my pc??? |
| 01:35.12 | SimonRaven | mark_: ssh is rather picky with pam |
| 01:35.14 | TuxRazor | Ok, new problem: No devices Detected |
| 01:35.19 | SimonRaven | mark_: as you've seen |
| 01:35.26 | SimonRaven | mark_: lemme see |
| 01:35.28 | dvs | gnetux: No, that's what your /etc/fstab file is for |
| 01:35.40 | dvs | gnetux: and you're not done after modprobe. |
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| 01:35.56 | maher | litage: do you have cupsys-bsd installed |
| 01:36.10 | gnetux | dvs:so what's the next step? |
| 01:36.14 | SimonRaven | mark_: try setting UseLogin to no |
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| 01:36.30 | litage | maher: nope |
| 01:36.32 | mark_ | SimonRaven: where? |
| 01:36.33 | WaREX | gonna check if its the devfs |
| 01:36.38 | maher | litage: install it |
| 01:36.43 | SimonRaven | mark_: sshd_config |
| 01:37.04 | dvs | gnetux: as root, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdXX /mnt/dir, where XX is the drive letter and partition number of your NTFS drive and /mnt/dir is the mount point of your partition (the dir you want it to appear under) |
| 01:37.15 | TuxRazor | Ok, new problem: No devices Detected. No one can help me? :') |
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| 01:37.50 | maher | TuxRazor: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 01:38.18 | dvs | TuxRazor: search your /etc/XF86Free.0.log for (EE) |
| 01:38.18 | gnetux | dvs:and if i need to use it with my user account(or mount)??? |
| 01:38.20 | TuxRazor | Yep, dpkg-reconfigure , not a command |
| 01:38.38 | TuxRazor | (EE) No devices detected. Duh |
| 01:38.46 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: esr? |
| 01:38.47 | ravenbird | well, esr is a very clever Linux d00d with lots of very interesting philosophical and political texts. a guy who has some ideas about guns The geezer who wrote Cathedral and Bazaar.. Eric S. Raymond |
| 01:39.07 | dvs | gnetux: Then add "-o user" just before the -t option in the mount command |
| 01:39.15 | maher | TuxRazor: have you hand editted the config file at any point? |
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| 01:39.26 | abrotman | TuxRazor: be root |
| 01:39.28 | TuxRazor | Yeah, at almost every point |
| 01:39.34 | abrotman | !drxx TuxRazor |
| 01:39.35 | dpkg | TuxRazor: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:39.38 | abrotman | TuxRazor: see the last part |
| 01:39.40 | Epod69 | hey, the computer still reboots during loading kde =( !!!! I was once able to get in as root and typeing startx. I loged out and went to log in as my user account and it froze during kde start up (loading perefrials). I restarted my computer and now which ever account I start kde with it reboots now in the same spot loading kde..anyone know what could be causeing this ? |
| 01:39.51 | maher | TuxRazor: ask dpkg about xmd5sum |
| 01:40.20 | gnetux | dvs:mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, |
| 01:40.21 | gnetux | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.21 | gnetux | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.21 | gnetux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:40.27 | SimonRaven | !factinfo cmd: drxx (.*?) |
| 01:40.27 | dpkg | cmd: drxx (.*?) -- last modified at Wed Jul 27 01:19:56 2005 by abrotman!~abrotman@abrotman.active.supporter.pdpc. |
| 01:40.33 | dvs | i love it! |
| 01:40.38 | abrotman | why me?!??! |
| 01:40.43 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 01:40.45 | FieldySnuts | why not |
| 01:40.51 | SimonRaven | haha |
| 01:40.52 | FieldySnuts | apt: start a world war |
| 01:40.52 | apt | India will get its ass kicked by Pakistan! |
| 01:41.08 | dvs | abrotman: your real name is "Murphy" right? ;-) |
| 01:41.13 | adsadsad | mkfs program is not available in the installer shell, what i should use to format the /target in ext2? |
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| 01:41.23 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 01:41.23 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
| 01:41.25 | FieldySnuts | mke2fs? |
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| 01:41.37 | maher | gnetux: what does file -s /dev/hdb1 say |
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| 01:41.41 | BrianAnthony | how do I set X to not load on startup |
| 01:41.45 | dvs | gnetux: Oh, and by the way, don't flood |
| 01:41.49 | gnetux | dvs: 0_0 |
| 01:41.54 | adsadsad | fiberin: ok :) |
| 01:42.05 | adsadsad | sorry i'm really newbie |
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| 01:42.29 | dvs | !tell BrianAnthony about nodm |
| 01:42.31 | mark_ | SimonRaven: no joy |
| 01:42.41 | gnetux | ERROR: cannot open `say' |
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| 01:43.00 | maher | gnetux: ytpe: file -s /dev/hdb1 |
| 01:43.19 | Monty_ | guys where can i find a list of the commands for bots in this channel |
| 01:43.20 | gnetux | what? |
| 01:43.25 | TuxRazor | dpkg say that I shall "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" but it say "dpkg-reconfigure is not a command! |
| 01:43.26 | dpkg | that I shall "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" but it say "dpkg-reconfigure is not a command! |
| 01:43.33 | Rawplayer | Monty_: /topic |
| 01:43.34 | maher | gnetux: don't put the say on the end |
| 01:43.38 | SimonRaven | mark_: *sigh*. /me ponders and eats |
| 01:43.55 | gnetux | OEM-ID "NTFS " |
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| 01:44.04 | gnetux | you mean this? |
| 01:44.27 | maher | gnetux: does lsmod | grep nt show the ntfs module is loaded? |
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| 01:44.48 | mark_ | SimonRaven: do you want access to the machine? |
| 01:44.55 | SimonRaven | mark_: no |
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| 01:45.02 | gnetux | ntfs 102164 0 !!!! |
| 01:45.05 | Stun | Alguem pode me ajudar ? |
| 01:45.07 | mark_ | SimonRaven: ok |
| 01:45.22 | TuxRazor | Kuso! dpkg say that I shall "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" but it say "dpkg-reconfigure is not a command!" |
| 01:45.25 | FieldySnuts | puto? |
| 01:45.29 | maher | gnetux: ok - i don't know why it isn't working - can you still boot windows on that partition? |
| 01:45.37 | gnetux | yes |
| 01:45.39 | dvs | FieldySnuts: dont swear! ;-) |
| 01:45.39 | Stun | Alguem pode me ajudar ? |
| 01:45.43 | Stun | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.45 | SimonRaven | TuxRazor: why are you doing that? |
| 01:45.46 | Stun | YES NO |
| 01:45.47 | awb4422 | After I installed mythtv - the mythtv user isn't on the same shell and doesnt have the authority to run the X server - how/where can i change this? |
| 01:45.54 | FieldySnuts | argh, ignored |
| 01:45.59 | SimonRaven | Stun: #debian-es |
| 01:46.00 | TuxRazor | I've edited XF86Config-4 |
| 01:46.22 | Stun | SimonRaven =] |
| 01:46.25 | maher | TuxRazor: did you do the md5sum thing? |
| 01:46.31 | TuxRazor | Yep |
| 01:46.44 | dvs | gnetux: Then "mount -o user -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt" should have worked. |
| 01:46.45 | adsadsad | can i see where a symbolic link point by ls? |
| 01:46.51 | maher | TuxRazor: did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 as root? |
| 01:46.52 | FieldySnuts | man ls |
| 01:46.53 | dvs | adsadsad: ls-l |
| 01:46.59 | SimonRaven | adsadsad: yes |
| 01:47.00 | TuxRazor | Yep |
| 01:47.10 | maher | TuxRazor: and what happened? |
| 01:47.13 | gnetux | thanks to everyone |
| 01:47.21 | dvs | gnetux: it worked? |
| 01:47.31 | gnetux | Finaly yes |
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| 01:47.40 | gnetux | Thanks to everyone |
| 01:47.41 | TuxRazor | maher: "dpkg-reconfigure is not a command" |
| 01:47.44 | FieldySnuts | got to love outrageously obvious slashdot stories: IT: Hiring Good Programmers Matters |
| 01:47.46 | dvs | gnetux: then edit your /etc/fstab before you forget |
| 01:47.54 | Kupal[]__ | If im having issues with a serial port, would i possible need a kernel recompile? |
| 01:48.01 | gnetux | wich part??? |
| 01:48.02 | SimonRaven | TuxRazor: yes it is. probably not in your $PATH |
| 01:48.02 | FieldySnuts | "YRO: Sky Blue; Euopean Parliment Vetoes" |
| 01:48.09 | dvs | gnetux: Add a new line |
| 01:48.16 | gnetux | and |
| 01:48.22 | TuxRazor | Where is the file located then? |
| 01:48.27 | TuxRazor | *comand |
| 01:48.32 | dvs | gnetux: use the parameters you just used to get it mounted. |
| 01:48.35 | maher | TuxRazor: /usr/sbin |
| 01:48.35 | SimonRaven | /usr/sbin |
| 01:48.36 | FieldySnuts | TuxRazor: what distro are you using? |
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| 01:49.21 | gnetux | /dev/hdb1 and ntfs as type??? |
| 01:49.22 | TuxRazor | I think it is Net installer sarge |
| 01:49.30 | TuxRazor | Or something |
| 01:49.43 | dvs | gnetux: yes. and the mount point you want and the "user" option |
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| 01:50.12 | gnetux | what should i write into the user option? |
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| 01:50.40 | dvs | gnetux: I'd use "ro,user,auto" |
| 01:50.41 | SimonRaven | it *is* the option |
| 01:51.12 | gnetux | dvs:Thanks a lot |
| 01:51.19 | dvs | gnetux: No prob |
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| 01:51.22 | gnetux | now i'm going to bed |
| 01:51.29 | TheSin | anyone know how to fix |
| 01:51.30 | SimonRaven | g'night |
| 01:51.31 | TheSin | RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address |
| 01:51.36 | BourneAgain1 | I should do a review comparing FAI and Microsoft deployment methods. |
| 01:51.38 | TuxRazor | Ok, I'm off to try once again, I'll be back if I get more trouble |
| 01:51.39 | gnetux | i worked all day and need to sleep |
| 01:51.53 | gnetux | thenkyou again |
| 01:51.54 | SimonRaven | TheSin: exactly what it says. it can't assign the address you're trying to set |
| 01:52.05 | TheSin | the eth interface works but ifconfig shows a 169.x.x.x address and so it reports the wrong ip to all services |
| 01:52.11 | gnetux | maher:thankyou too |
| 01:52.17 | TheSin | the address is valid though |
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| 01:52.29 | SimonRaven | mark_: Q: is that user in /etc/passwd / /etc/shadow, or is that a ldap user? |
| 01:52.32 | gnetux | good bye everyone |
| 01:52.38 | TheSin | and it works with that address I'm ssh'd to it right now |
| 01:52.41 | gnetux | thanks a lot |
| 01:53.11 | SimonRaven | TheSin: iproute and ifconfig operate differently |
| 01:53.14 | TheSin | could it be the nic module being wrong? |
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| 01:53.24 | Kupal[]__ | how can one test a serial port? |
| 01:53.29 | TheSin | but it messes up mdns :\ |
| 01:53.35 | Kupal[]__ | its not really responsive, i think something is wrong.. |
| 01:53.37 | SimonRaven | no, since you wouldn'r even be able to do anything to it |
| 01:53.50 | SimonRaven | Kupal[]__: minicom |
| 01:53.54 | SimonRaven | Kupal[]__: cat |
| 01:54.13 | SimonRaven | Kupal[]__: um, it's a serial port... |
| 01:54.15 | dvs | Kupal[]__: minicom |
| 01:54.29 | Kupal[]__ | minicom just is plank my pix doesn't output jack. |
| 01:54.35 | Kupal[]__ | could i be missing something in the kernel? |
| 01:54.40 | mark_ | SimonRaven: user is in ldap, normal users in /etc/password can log on file (eg root) |
| 01:54.56 | dvs | Kupal[]__: Like the serial module? |
| 01:55.06 | SimonRaven | mark_: is this etch or sarge? |
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| 01:55.31 | martin | If you want to test your modem, it's easy open two terminal windows, in one do cat /dev/ttyS0 (change this to your serial port) and in another terminal type printf "ati0\r" > dev/ttyS0 |
| 01:55.34 | SimonRaven | (though i haven't seen anything different in pam for either) |
| 01:55.36 | Kupal[]__ | dvs: yes, i figured that was it.. |
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| 01:55.52 | Phroziac | Ok i should be done having to ask questions for a few more months! |
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| 01:55.58 | mark_ | SimonRaven: kubuntu (*ducks down*) |
| 01:55.59 | dvs | martin: I prefer "ath1" |
| 01:56.02 | Kupal[]__ | dvs: i just never have to muck with the serial, and since serial is so simple, i thought perhaps i might be going of the deep end .. |
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| 01:56.38 | SimonRaven | mark_: i can't help you, i don't know if ubuntu patched it differently from debian or not |
| 01:57.00 | SimonRaven | mark_: why does it keep searching for base="dc=clubrooms,dc=org" |
| 01:57.03 | SimonRaven | ? |
| 01:57.21 | Janos | hey there, i've a old computer (PIII 800MHz, 512MB) with a good old isa modem, i remember been able to use that modem under linux with no problem, but right now it doesn't work, this is what i get from dmesg "Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 48 ports, IRQ sharing enabled |
| 01:57.21 | Janos | ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A |
| 01:57.21 | Janos | " and almos at the end i have "ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!" |
| 01:57.26 | SimonRaven | and this, BIND dn="cn=admin,dc=engclubrooms,dc=org". which is it? |
| 01:57.35 | SimonRaven | mark_: ^^^ |
| 01:58.16 | Kupal[]__ | where would serial support in menuconfig be ? |
| 01:58.36 | Janos | so basically ttyS0 my first serial port it's working but the modem has that message, any idea of what it is |
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| 01:59.07 | mark_ | SimonRaven: cn=admin,dc=engclubrooms,dc=org is the admin user, ou=users,dc=engclubrooms,dc=org is where users are/// |
| 01:59.10 | martin | Janos: can you do a cat /dev/ttyS0 as root ... what does it tell you? |
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| 01:59.50 | SimonRaven | mark_: but what about the search base i pasted? why is that popping up? i'd check your slapd.conf (let's take this to #ldap) |
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| 02:00.15 | Janos | cat /dev/ttyS0 just stays there |
| 02:00.19 | martin | good |
| 02:00.21 | Janos | so it can open it |
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| 02:00.30 | mark_ | SimonRaven: ok its quiet there |
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| 02:00.51 | martin | open another terminal and type printf "ati0\r" > /dev/ttyS0 (as root) |
| 02:01.04 | Janos | but cat /dev/ttyS1 says "cat: /dev/ttyS1: No such device" |
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| 02:01.07 | nrclf | software raid... |
| 02:01.13 | Janos | doing that |
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| 02:01.23 | nrclf | /dev/md0 doesnt exist, if i mknod it, it disappears when i reboot. wtf :( |
| 02:01.26 | martin | yea your modem is on /dev/ttyS0 |
| 02:01.34 | gdog | Has anyone here installed the Nvidia drivers under AMD64 system? |
| 02:02.02 | Janos | marcel, well o dont get nothing on the cat side |
| 02:02.04 | martin | leave the cat /dev/ttyS0 running while you do a printf "ati0\r" > /dev/ttyS0 on another terminal |
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| 02:02.28 | martin | the first terminal should then display something like 56000 OK or something |
| 02:02.38 | martin | or 14000 lol |
| 02:02.42 | Janos | martin, nope |
| 02:02.43 | martin | or 300 lol |
| 02:02.49 | martin | nothing? |
| 02:03.15 | narg | gah, anybody know what xorg drivers to use for eMachine built in crap? (helping someone on another channel :p) |
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| 02:03.41 | DoppelGanger | tell them to find out what agp they have |
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| 02:03.47 | DoppelGanger | lscpi -vvv narg |
| 02:14.27 | maher | narg: its not that whiner luminerd is it? |
| 02:14.27 | narg | nah |
| 02:14.27 | narg | Hes not even on freenode |
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| 02:14.27 | narg | :p |
| 02:14.27 | Janos | martin, my modem is not on /dev/ttyS0 |
| 02:14.28 | Desiac | tring to add another ip to my NIC, i've tried using, 'iface eth0:1 inet static' then declaring the interface, but doesn't seem to work, anyone have any suggestions |
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| 02:14.28 | Rucas | penis |
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| 02:14.28 | maher | Desiac: try etherconf or edit /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 02:14.29 | SimonRaven | that was mature |
| 02:14.29 | Desiac | maher: yeah i've put that line in interfaces, along with address/network/gw/and netmask settings |
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| 02:14.29 | Technel | Is it possible to use apt-get or aptitude to download XFCE (instead of Gnome or KDE)? |
| 02:14.29 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 02:14.29 | Technel | How? |
| 02:14.29 | SimonRaven | just do it. start by /msg dpkg search |
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| 02:14.29 | SimonRaven | that'll help you find what you want |
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| 02:14.29 | gdog | Has anyone here installed the Nvidia drivers for X under and AMD64 system? |
| 02:14.29 | mk270 | when i upgraded to sarge mozilla got nice anti-aliased fonts, but no longer displayed as much of unicode - i lost hebrew, chinese, ipa, etc - how do i get this back? install more font pages, or tweak mozilla? |
| 02:14.29 | Matthew_I | gdog: I have |
| 02:14.29 | maher | Desiac: what does the new card show up as tho? eth0:1 is virtual interface off of eth0 afaik - the new card is probably eth1 |
| 02:14.29 | Desiac | maher: this is my second entry in interfaces, iface eth0:1 inet static / address 192.168.1.21 / network 192.168.1.0 / netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 02:14.29 | Technel | SimonRaven: Got it, thanks |
| 02:14.30 | Desiac | yeah im trying to setp a virtual ip, on eexisting card |
| 02:14.30 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 02:14.30 | maher | Desiac: look at dmesg or the logs |
| 02:14.30 | Desiac | want to access 2 networks, over the 1 nic |
| 02:14.30 | Matthew_I | gdog: u having trouble with it? |
| 02:14.30 | mage | ugh, how can I track font problems? I dont get a readble font in bittorrent |
| 02:14.30 | gdog | Matthew_i: Yeah, it complains about my architecture. It says "You must have an Linux-ia64 architecture to run this video driver installer, but your architecture is Linux-x86_64 |
| 02:14.30 | maher | Desiac: does it show up in ifconfig? |
| 02:14.30 | Desiac | nup |
| 02:14.30 | Janos | anyone, any idea why when the kernel serial driver is loading i get this on my modem serial port "ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!" instead of something sane like "ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A" |
| 02:14.30 | gdog | How can I change the name of my architecture, aren't the AMD and intel processors supposed to be totally compatible in the 64 bit world? |
| 02:14.30 | Matthew_I | gdog: use the debian packages, you are running x86_64, not ia64 |
| 02:14.30 | Technel | I am on root. I do "apt-get install xfce4" and it says, "Unable to lock administration directory (whatever), is another process using it?" |
| 02:14.30 | maher | Desiac: do you get any errors? |
| 02:14.30 | Desiac | maher: only eth0 shows up |
| 02:14.30 | Matthew_I | gdog: ia64 would be itainium |
| 02:14.31 | Desiac | not when i stop restart the networking |
| 02:14.31 | Matthew_I | gdog: what kernel are you running? |
| 02:14.31 | Matthew_I | gdog: also are you running pure64 or i386 debian? |
| 02:14.31 | gdog | Matthew_I: 2.6 |
| 02:14.31 | gdog | It's generic AMD64-debian |
| 02:14.31 | Matthew_I | gdog: is it a custom kernel or a debian kernel? |
| 02:14.31 | gdog | I downloaded the net-inst. |
| 02:14.31 | gdog | A debian kernel |
| 02:14.31 | Matthew_I | gdog: what is the complete kernel version? |
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| 02:14.31 | maher | Desiac: if you type ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 what happens? |
| 02:14.32 | gdog | oops |
| 02:14.32 | Epod69 | you die |
| 02:14.32 | cokecan | Hello all |
| 02:14.32 | gdog | uname -a says: 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic |
| 02:14.32 | Technel | Anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:14.51 | Desiac | maher: worked, must have been my netwoprk setting :) |
| 02:14.57 | cokecan | Can anyone help me out? |
| 02:15.00 | maher | Technel: do ps auxw and look for other apt's dpkg's running |
| 02:15.01 | cokecan | :) |
| 02:15.02 | Desiac | maher: really appreciate it, thnx |
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| 02:15.36 | maher | cokecan: ask a question |
| 02:15.55 | cokecan | hehe, I'm thinking where I should start |
| 02:16.07 | maher | maher: if not delete the lock file its complaining about |
| 02:16.14 | daedalus_ | Technel: are you running synaptic, dselect, or aptitude anywhere? |
| 02:16.18 | Matthew_I | gdog: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 02:16.19 | maher | cokecan: start at the beginning |
| 02:16.24 | Matthew_I | gdog: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 nvidia-kernel-source |
| 02:16.31 | Matthew_I | gdog: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 nvidia-kernel-source kernel-package |
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| 02:16.38 | maher | cokecan: go on past the middle till you reach the end, then stop |
| 02:16.44 | gdog | Matthew_I: okay |
| 02:16.53 | cokecan | Um, well, I was in here earlier today trying to get sound. 'streuner' was helping me try to figure out kernel and video card issues |
| 02:16.57 | Technel | daedalus_: I do not have a window manager yet -- I was using Aptitude, but I closed it when it was done, yet the process still shows up |
| 02:16.58 | Matthew_I | gdog: let me know when that is done and I can walk you through the rest |
| 02:17.08 | maher | Technel: kill it |
| 02:17.10 | gdog | Matthew_I: there isn't a nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 02:17.35 | Matthew_I | gdog: add non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:18.10 | daedalus_ | Technel: follow maher's advice and kill it (kill -9 if it comes down to it) |
| 02:18.35 | daedalus_ | Technel: though if you kill -9 it, you'll probably have to go through and remove some locks by hand |
| 02:18.38 | cokecan | I am currently running Debian Sarge on a 2.4.27-2-686 kernel |
| 02:18.43 | Technel | maher, daedalus_: I did "kill 5199" and it is still there |
| 02:18.59 | Technel | Can I just re-login? |
| 02:19.04 | Technel | or restart |
| 02:19.10 | gdog | I added non-free to apt sources and ran apt-get update, but it still doesn't show the nvidia-kernel-sources package. |
| 02:19.15 | cokecan | Before, when I tried to upgrade to the 2.6.8 kernel, during reboot, I got a "no screens found" error |
| 02:19.51 | Matthew_I | gdog: paste your sources.list line (no the whole thing) |
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| 02:20.25 | daedalus_ | Technel: nah... restarting wouldn't accomplish anything beyond kill -9'ing it... you'd still have to clean up after it. |
| 02:20.36 | daedalus_ | Technel: so, kill -9 5199 |
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| 02:20.45 | cokecan | Can anyone help? |
| 02:20.51 | cat | cokecan: try asing |
| 02:20.54 | cat | *asking |
| 02:21.00 | daedalus_ | Technel: -9 is the force-kill signal |
| 02:21.10 | Matthew_I | cokecan: what is teh error? |
| 02:21.22 | Matthew_I | cokecan: or, please reword the error |
| 02:21.39 | cokecan | Well, I wrote down the last 3 lines that made any sense |
| 02:21.43 | cokecan | Hold one sec |
| 02:22.08 | Technel | I restarted and apt-get worked this time :) |
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| 02:22.16 | cokecan | "pivot_root: no such file or directory" <-- line1 after "no screens" |
| 02:22.28 | ozzloy | i'm trying to reset the time, but i get this: keithRichards:~# ntpdate pool.ntp.org \n 3 Aug 12:20:07 ntpdate[4783]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting |
| 02:22.42 | ozzloy | how do i kill the ntp socket? something like kill ntp? |
| 02:22.43 | cat | ozzloy: try killing the pid |
| 02:22.51 | TuxRazor | Guess what, there is no dpkg-reconfigure in /usr/sbin, as someone said |
| 02:22.52 | cokecan | "/bin/init: 432: can not open dev/console: no such file" <--- line 2 |
| 02:22.55 | Matthew_I | ozzloy: run /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart |
| 02:23.08 | cat | ozzloy: /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart; |
| 02:23.23 | cokecan | "Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!" <--- last line, then it just hung |
| 02:23.38 | TuxRazor | :O Your kernel is a murderer |
| 02:23.47 | cokecan | I knew it! |
| 02:23.48 | Matthew_I | cokecan: does your old kernel still work? |
| 02:23.49 | ozzloy | Matthew_I, cat, how did you guys know that? thanx |
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| 02:24.10 | Matthew_I | ozzloy: dude, we are so awesome :) |
| 02:24.18 | cat | ozzloy: by reading |
| 02:24.26 | cokecan | It did, until the nVidia driver messed that up |
| 02:24.39 | ozzloy | hehe, yes you are awesome... cat reading what? |
| 02:24.44 | cokecan | Then I messed everything up, so I installed fresh |
| 02:24.49 | Matthew_I | ozzloy: honestly, I learned it just by messing with it, or maybe I read it, I don't remember |
| 02:24.54 | cat | ozzloy: www.debian.org/doc |
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| 02:25.07 | diomedes | anyone use bacula |
| 02:26.00 | gilv | when i try to convert files from GB2312 to UTF-8 with iconv, it often stops because some characters are not recognized, but when i open those files with gedit, i can save save into UTF-8, it works perfect. How to make it work with a command line ? |
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| 02:26.54 | ozzloy | ic ic ok, i got one more. how do i make sure that the system knows that the hw clock is set to local time? |
| 02:27.15 | adsadsad | i think the debian installer performs: debootstrap sarge /target file:////cdrom |
| 02:27.21 | adsadsad | i'm right? |
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| 02:27.37 | Phroziac | Well, damn. After setting locale, perl still complains about it. |
| 02:27.43 | cokecan | ........ |
| 02:27.55 | cat | adsadsad: right |
| 02:28.06 | maher | Phroziac: log out and log back in and see if it works |
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| 02:28.19 | Technel | I installed XFCE4, but "startx" does not work...Any ideas? |
| 02:28.32 | cokecan | Anyone know the best way to upgrade my kernel? Get sound? And get the nVidia driver working? |
| 02:28.33 | adsadsad | can i modify the cdrom debian tree to exclude unwanted base packages? |
| 02:29.02 | adsadsad | i've triedy modifynt sarge/stable/Packages file |
| 02:29.13 | maher | adsadsad: your probably best off installing using debootstrap into a chroot and then seeing if you cn get a working systemin < 100mb |
| 02:29.18 | cat | adsadsad: read the licenced on it, |
| 02:29.21 | cat | and then modify it |
| 02:30.18 | adsadsad | ok, realizing and trying |
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| 02:30.25 | Phroziac | maher: ok |
| 02:30.58 | mombof | any yoots know the proper syntax for ifconfig media type? i have a g3imac that won't autosense |
| 02:31.19 | maher | mombof: try mii-tools |
| 02:31.22 | Technel | Anyone? |
| 02:31.28 | mombof | tx |
| 02:31.37 | Phroziac | ok thanks. fixed now. |
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| 02:31.44 | gilv | How to convert a text file from GB2312 to UTF-8 ? |
| 02:31.44 | adsadsad | cat: i can't get what is the licenced? |
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| 02:31.52 | adsadsad | the license? :) |
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| 02:32.41 | aktinos | gilv: recode GB2312..UTF8 textfile |
| 02:33.10 | cokecan | No one can help me? |
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| 02:34.03 | Matthew_I | cokecan: I can help you |
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| 02:34.18 | Matthew_I | cokecan: it's just I may be slow responding, I keep getting disconnected from ssh |
| 02:34.21 | daedalus_ | Technel: any luck? |
| 02:34.25 | Matthew_I | but I have irssi in a screen so I will be ok |
| 02:34.36 | Matthew_I | cokecan: have you completely hosed your system or can you still access it? |
| 02:34.54 | cokecan | Mathew_I: I reinstalled it :) |
| 02:34.57 | jazzanova | hi |
| 02:34.59 | chalenged | cokecan: apt-cache search kernel-image pick one the do the /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 02:35.16 | cokecan | What is the one liner? |
| 02:35.23 | cokecan | I don't understand. |
| 02:35.23 | jazzanova | i have gotten my webcam to work with spcaview, but it doesn't work with gnomemeeting. any ideas ? |
| 02:35.28 | chalenged | type /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 02:35.29 | cokecan | Forgive me |
| 02:35.32 | daedalus_ | Technel: the kill -9 won't release the locks, so apt still won't work even after you kill the program |
| 02:35.36 | chalenged | in chat the bot has the message |
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| 02:35.46 | shadow98 | how can i check and make sure my isp delegated my class c to a certain set of name servers? |
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| 02:35.51 | chalenged | !nvidia one liner |
| 02:35.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 02:36.14 | cokecan_ | Ok, I am on my laptop |
| 02:36.25 | Matthew_I | chalenged: send that to gdog |
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| 02:37.00 | daedalus_ | !tell gdog about nvidia one liner |
| 02:37.04 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: ok, so can you still boot your machine? |
| 02:37.28 | shadow98 | hey im drinking a out of a cherry coke can |
| 02:38.17 | daedalus_ | shadow98: Uh... what do you mean "delegated"? |
| 02:38.20 | cokecan | Both machines are running perfect, the desktop (which I am trying to upgrade) is a fresh start |
| 02:38.47 | cokecan | I did the apt-cache command and it gave me a lot of info |
| 02:38.50 | daedalus_ | shadow98: and that's totally not a debain question.... #networking or somesuch |
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| 02:39.14 | Matthew_I | cokecan: ok, so apt-get install kernel-image (pick one) |
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| 02:39.36 | cokecan_ | Oh crap, I entered that one line thing |
| 02:39.40 | chalenged | cokecan : copy down the name of the image you would like....normally kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 for P4s.....chat cpu you have? |
| 02:39.50 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: let it finish then |
| 02:40.02 | cokecan_ | I got an error |
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| 02:40.08 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: post it |
| 02:40.29 | chalenged | if its a few lines use flood or paster |
| 02:40.31 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: so if you want you can use kernel-package to compile your own kernel, if you are into that sort of thing] |
| 02:40.57 | Matthew_I | !dpkg awesome |
| 02:40.57 | dpkg | rumour has it, awesome is me |
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| 02:41.02 | Matthew_I | sweet! |
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| 02:41.38 | cokecan | "Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source failed. Ignoring this package. Maybe you need to add something to the source.list. Maybe the contrib and non-free archives" |
| 02:41.55 | Matthew_I | cokecan: do you ahve non-free? |
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| 02:42.08 | chalenged | !non-free sources |
| 02:42.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, non-free sources is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then apt-get update, or but bear in mind that you'll be installing non-free software. This may have onerous terms; check the licenses. |
| 02:42.10 | cokecan_ | I don't know what it is |
| 02:42.33 | chalenged | do what dpkg said 8) |
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| 02:42.41 | Matthew_I | because dpkg is awesome |
| 02:42.46 | chalenged | i just love bots.... |
| 02:42.50 | daedalus_ | chalenged: use !tell <nick> about <blah> |
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| 02:42.53 | spanglesontoast | where can I get glibc 2.4.5? |
| 02:42.59 | Matthew_I | !dpkg tell cokecan about awesome |
| 02:43.03 | Matthew_I | see :) |
| 02:43.24 | gilv | Why gedit can open my GB2312 file and save it in utf8 with no problem, but not iconv or recode ? (the file contain also non GB2312 characters on which iconv stops the conversion process). What can I do ? |
| 02:43.26 | daedalus_ | you don't even need the 'dpkg' |
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| 02:43.36 | dsias | any news about php5-imap? not in sid currently |
| 02:43.38 | chalenged | daedalus_ i did but he didnt get it the first time so i just decided to spam as its not too active atm here |
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| 02:43.40 | Matthew_I | gilv: what does iconv do? |
| 02:44.08 | gilv | Matthew_I: it shows the file until the first unrecognized character |
| 02:44.08 | AdrianLP | Hi all. I have a brother HL-1435 that has worked fine using cups till the last few days. I can still print locally, but when windows XP tries to add it as a printer I see this in my logs: "rpc_server/srv_spoolss_nt.c:find_printer_index_by_hnd(268) find_printer_index_by_hnd: Printer handle not found: _spoolss_writeprinter: Invalid handle (OTHER:588:1662)" I know my Samba password is correct (I reset it with smbpasswd), and I told cups |
| 02:44.08 | AdrianLP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:44.47 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: Sounds like a samba problem? #samba? |
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| 02:45.16 | cokecan | Ok I have the file open, now what do I add to it and where? |
| 02:45.29 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: Think so? Ok, I'll try there. |
| 02:45.45 | chalenged | on the lines that say Main put main contrib non-free instead then save and apt-get update |
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| 02:45.58 | gilv | Matthew_I: iconv converts well until reaching an unrecogized character when i use the command: iconv -f GB2312 myfile.txt |
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| 02:46.20 | cokecan | Where it says "main" at the end? |
| 02:46.23 | Matthew_I | gilv: sorry, I can't help you, maybe convert with vim |
| 02:46.24 | blitx | Damnit I love Debian 3.1. |
| 02:46.26 | gilv | gilv: but gedit does the conversion with no problem |
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| 02:46.42 | gilv | Matthew_I:how with vim ? |
| 02:46.43 | Matthew_I | !dpkg debian love |
| 02:46.43 | cmorgan | vncserver doesn't appear to be executing ~/.vnc/xstartup, did the name of the startup file change? |
| 02:46.56 | Matthew_I | gilv: no idea |
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| 02:47.17 | cokecan_ | ??? |
| 02:47.18 | stew | cmorgan: if it did it should be documented somewhere in /usr/share/doc/vncserver/ |
| 02:47.42 | cmorgan | stew: checking now |
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| 02:48.36 | MoonGladeGal | what should my root partition type be... primary or logical? |
| 02:48.50 | Matthew_I | MoonGladeGal: let the installer do it automatically |
| 02:48.57 | blitx | I've used Windows since Windows for Workgroups exclusively and last Saturday I installed Debian 3.1 on this machine. I like it every bit as much as Windows and then some. |
| 02:49.04 | Matthew_I | MoonGladeGal: use reiserfs as the partition type, unless you have reasons not too |
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| 02:49.10 | drusscol | I have a dvd burner in a usb2 enclosure. How can I burn to it using dvdrecord or whatever, or how can I find out? I see some kernel messages relating to the ub driver and /dev/ub/a, but I'm not familiar with that, and dvdrecord -scanbus just gives a bunch of errors. |
| 02:49.20 | MoonGladeGal | why not ext3? |
| 02:49.25 | cokecan | Ok Ok |
| 02:49.31 | cokecan | It worked! |
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| 02:49.37 | cokecan | Well, I think it did |
| 02:49.44 | cokecan | It went through the whole install |
| 02:49.54 | gilv | is it possible to use gedit as a command line to just open a file and save it with the system encoding ? |
| 02:49.58 | cokecan | 1 part down |
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| 02:50.43 | mombof | maher, any way to make it stick? I get it up but it won't stay |
| 02:50.57 | cokecan | Now after after running the "one liner" what do I do? |
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| 02:51.16 | Matthew_I | MoonGladeGal: i find it better |
| 02:51.20 | Matthew_I | MoonGladeGal: more stable, and faster |
| 02:51.26 | Matthew_I | MoonGladeGal: others will tell you different |
| 02:51.41 | cokecan | Matthew_I: what now? |
| 02:51.54 | Matthew_I | cokecan: where did we leave off |
| 02:52.02 | cokecan | I did the one liner |
| 02:52.17 | Matthew_I | cokecan: did that work? |
| 02:52.22 | cokecan | Yes sir |
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| 02:52.39 | adsadsad | debconf uses perl, is debconf needed after the installation? |
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| 02:52.57 | Matthew_I | cokecan: ok what are you trying to do now? |
| 02:53.05 | Matthew_I | cokecan: u trying to get your sound working? |
| 02:53.16 | cokecan | What do I do after the nvidia packages install? |
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| 02:53.37 | cokecan | How do I know that it worked? |
| 02:53.51 | cokecan | Yes, sound or new kernel next |
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| 02:54.26 | Matthew_I | cokecan: well you will have to do nvidia stuff again after kernel |
| 02:54.34 | Matthew_I | cokecan: what kernel version are you running? |
| 02:54.45 | cokecan | 2.4.27-2-686 |
| 02:55.21 | Matthew_I | cokecan: upgrade to 2.6 |
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| 02:55.29 | Matthew_I | cokecan: then you sound should work |
| 02:55.43 | abrotman | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 02:55.49 | gdog | What's the difference between debian-pure64 and debian-amd64? |
| 02:55.58 | elmagozizou | hi...I just installl debian..but I get no sound..What couls it be? |
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| 02:56.05 | elmagozizou | could* |
| 02:56.10 | stew | gdog: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 02:56.10 | cokecan | How should I do that, last time I did an apt-get kernel install, I got a "no screens found" error amugst other things |
| 02:56.14 | Matthew_I | gdog: nothing they are the same |
| 02:56.15 | abrotman | !tell elmagozizou about sound |
| 02:56.17 | abrotman | !tell elmagozizou about audio |
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| 02:56.34 | stew | !wikifaq elmagozizou UseSoundCard |
| 02:56.35 | dpkg | elmagozizou: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 02:56.37 | abrotman | there is only pure64 right now |
| 02:56.43 | Matthew_I | cokecan: apt-get install kernel-image |
| 02:56.50 | Matthew_I | cokecan: pick a 2.6 kernel |
| 02:57.10 | Matthew_I | cokecan: apt-get install discover |
| 02:57.15 | abrotman | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 02:57.20 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 02:57.20 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
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| 02:58.12 | traumator | someone know how i can install a Quickcam Messenger webcam under Sarge ? |
| 02:58.13 | cokecan | Ok I did apt-get ..... discover |
| 02:58.50 | adsadsad | traumator: for peeps? :) |
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| 02:59.05 | Matthew_I | cokecan: did you install a kernel-image? |
| 02:59.21 | cokecan | Oops, I am now, I went out of order :) |
| 02:59.23 | Matthew_I | cokecan: are you using grub? |
| 02:59.30 | cokecan | Yes |
| 02:59.48 | cokecan | Done |
| 03:00.23 | Matthew_I | cokecan: ok apt-get install alsa-utils |
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| 03:00.38 | traumator | adsassad : what do you mean d00d |
| 03:00.45 | cokecan | ok |
| 03:00.59 | abrotman | did you just fuckikng say d00d? |
| 03:01.02 | cokecan | Done |
| 03:01.18 | traumator | hehe |
| 03:01.37 | adsadsad | ops i don't know about d00d |
| 03:01.39 | Matthew_I | cokecan: ok, reboot into your new kernel, then run alsamixer |
| 03:01.45 | lunaphyte | hello |
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| 03:01.51 | cokecan | Wish me luck |
| 03:02.08 | Matthew_I | cokecan: will do, but with debian... you don't need luck |
| 03:02.11 | traumator | d00d that not nice i just want to install my webcam for women on msn |
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| 03:02.38 | cokecan_ | I needed it last time, lol |
| 03:03.00 | Matthew_I | traumator: good idea :) let the ladies see you for who you are, and what you look like :) |
| 03:03.09 | adsadsad | ehehe :) sorry i i'm a newbuy, but i think u should do something like: |
| 03:03.22 | abrotman | traumator: on debian ? |
| 03:03.25 | traumator | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.29 | lunaphyte | i was having some trouble w/ a netinst of etch, and found a few comments saying use sarge, etch wasn't ready yet - but i was curious about installing sarge if i want to follow testing. |
| 03:03.29 | adsadsad | apt-get install peeppackage |
| 03:03.31 | cokecan_ | Matthew_I |
| 03:03.36 | Matthew_I | word |
| 03:03.37 | cokecan_ | I got an error |
| 03:03.39 | traumator | yea debian... |
| 03:03.45 | Matthew_I | traumator: what's got you down? |
| 03:03.51 | abrotman | traumator: it's usb? |
| 03:03.57 | traumator | yes |
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| 03:04.07 | abrotman | lsusb show it ? |
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| 03:04.18 | cokecan_ | pivot_root: No such file or directory |
| 03:04.54 | traumator | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. |
| 03:04.59 | BrianAnthony | okay, when my computer's booting it tells me I have a WD40xxx hardrive 40gb at hdb. but when I try to mount it it's nowhere to be found |
| 03:05.02 | abrotman | is that it ? |
| 03:05.02 | cokecan_ | /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: no such file |
| 03:05.05 | traumator | yea |
| 03:05.11 | abrotman | traumator: do you have hotplug or usbmgr installed? |
| 03:05.13 | abrotman | !webcam |
| 03:05.32 | cokecan_ | Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 03:05.52 | traumator | hotplug yes but no usbmgr |
| 03:05.55 | cokecan_ | :-( |
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| 03:06.05 | elmagozizou | abrotman, Im using debian sarge...and I load the OSS module, but still without sound |
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| 03:06.11 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: what did you do? |
| 03:06.24 | cokecan_ | I did what you said |
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| 03:06.38 | abrotman | elmagozizou: did you read what dpkg said ? |
| 03:06.42 | cokecan_ | This is the same thing that happened last time |
| 03:06.51 | abrotman | traumator: google for the driver you need |
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| 03:07.43 | elmagozizou | abrotman, yeah I load the OSS module..with discover but doesnt work |
| 03:08.01 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: heh |
| 03:08.06 | cokecan_ | I changed over to that kernel easily on my laptop |
| 03:08.12 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: did you install the right kernel? |
| 03:08.16 | abrotman | elmagozizou: did you read what dpkg said? |
| 03:08.34 | cokecan_ | 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 03:08.43 | elmagozizou | abrotman, and with alsa tells that erase the OSS module from /etc/modules but it doesnt apear |
| 03:08.56 | abrotman | elmagozizou: are you running a 2.6 kernel ? |
| 03:09.03 | elmagozizou | abrotman, yeah |
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| 03:09.04 | abrotman | !alsa |
| 03:09.09 | abrotman | dpkg: ? |
| 03:09.11 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: are you runing 686? |
| 03:09.12 | abrotman | dpkg: die |
| 03:09.13 | dpkg | I'll murder you abrotman! Slice you into bitsa and feed you to my children! |
| 03:09.18 | abrotman | !alsa |
| 03:09.20 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:09.27 | cokecan_ | I was runing 686 before |
| 03:09.40 | abrotman | !alsa tutorial |
| 03:09.40 | dpkg | from memory, alsa tutorial is at http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=541 |
| 03:09.43 | abrotman | bah .. |
| 03:09.44 | abrotman | ffs |
| 03:09.56 | abrotman | elmagozizou: install alsa .. do what it askss .. make sounds |
| 03:10.00 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: like does your processor support 686 |
| 03:10.10 | cokecan_ | P4 3GHz |
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| 03:10.56 | Lanix | is there a tool that would show me a list of services i can activate or deactivate ? |
| 03:11.04 | adsadsad | init.d? |
| 03:11.12 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: you need the kernel-image-2.8.6-my-Athlon64-system-owns-yours-and-yours-runs-hotter kernel version |
| 03:11.21 | Lanix | graphical ? |
| 03:11.28 | cokecan_ | I hate you :-) |
| 03:11.31 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: :) |
| 03:11.42 | BrianAnthony | how do I chown all files and folders |
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| 03:11.59 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: I really don't know what is wrong, it seems to happen with 2.6 kernels, maybe you should try a different 2.6 kernel or the i386 one |
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| 03:12.31 | cokecan_ | I'm about to say f-it and order AMD 64 |
| 03:12.47 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: :) |
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| 03:13.59 | cokecan_ | Who makes a good mobo that will accept 4 512MB sticks of memory, SATA, AGP? |
| 03:14.40 | Nwallins | cokecan_: lots.. check http://newegg.com/ |
| 03:14.40 | cokecan_ | Currently I'm running ASUS P4C800 Deluxe |
| 03:15.03 | traumator | how do i get 2.6.8-2-386 source ? |
| 03:15.24 | SDFH_Linux | any word on kernel 2.6.12? |
| 03:15.25 | cokecan_ | I need a package, I'll look tomorrow in class. |
| 03:15.29 | abrotman | traumator: apt-cache search kernel-source 2.6 |
| 03:15.47 | abrotman | cokecan_: what is wrong? |
| 03:16.12 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: asus of course |
| 03:16.21 | cokecan_ | Everything! :-) ASUS? |
| 03:16.28 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: mine is pcie rather than AGP |
| 03:16.35 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: also I have no firewire, but I have dual channel |
| 03:16.39 | abrotman | cokecan_: do any kernels work? |
| 03:16.54 | cokecan_ | My 2.4.27-2-686 works |
| 03:17.05 | abrotman | and a 2.6 ? |
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| 03:17.19 | abrotman | did you update-grub;grub-install /dev/device before rebooting ? |
| 03:17.28 | cokecan_ | With the 2.6 I hit errors |
| 03:17.30 | abrotman | and i know you shouldn't have to ... |
| 03:17.38 | abrotman | what's wrong with using the 2.4 kernel ? |
| 03:17.54 | abrotman | did you compile hte 2.6 kernel ? |
| 03:17.55 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: tell him what the problem is, tell him how much 2.4 sucks |
| 03:17.56 | adsadsad | someone know where i can find references to write a pmode32 driver for old common pci vga adapters like s3? |
| 03:18.08 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: tell him now you have to do ide-scsi to burn cd's |
| 03:18.11 | Lanix | omg a graphical tool that would alow me to enable o desable services like shh or telnet or my iptables ect .... i thaut it was services admin but nothing comes up when i select it .... any ideas |
| 03:18.13 | abrotman | Matthew_I: right .. but 2.4 bootts .. 2.6 doesn't .. which one sucks ? |
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| 03:18.28 | abrotman | Laney: rcconf .. update-rc.d .. not much else .. |
| 03:18.36 | traumator | damn.. there is no 2.6.8-2-386 source in the rep ? |
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| 03:18.43 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: tell him that 2.6 owns all people who go by the name of abrotman |
| 03:18.48 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: let him know the deal :) |
| 03:18.56 | traumator | there is only 2.6.8-16 |
| 03:18.56 | abrotman | traumator: apt-cache search kernel-source 2.6 |
| 03:19.10 | abrotman | that's the one you want then |
| 03:19.21 | Kupal[]__ | nothing like re-compiling a kernel for a serial port.. top it all, its XEN it its Weird.. |
| 03:19.43 | traumator | yea but it not 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 03:19.51 | abrotman | no shit |
| 03:19.53 | abrotman | god ... |
| 03:20.05 | abrotman | fucking install the one that is there .. source doesn't have an architecture |
| 03:20.10 | vick | Hello, after installing X and starting it i found that i have very thin vertical and horizontall lines (doesn't change for desktop enviroments eg. twm, fluxbox, neither for xdm or kdm), what could be the possible problem(s) and solution(s) ? |
| 03:20.18 | abrotman | vick! |
| 03:20.29 | gilv | when running the command "echo foo > myfile", how to do so that foor is print at the end of the file, and not in a new file ? |
| 03:20.29 | Guerin | vick: what server, what card, what driver? |
| 03:20.42 | abrotman | gilv: >> |
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| 03:21.05 | vick | hey abrotman |
| 03:21.11 | vick | :D |
| 03:21.21 | vick | yep |
| 03:21.30 | vick | it turned out i had to remove that sig thing |
| 03:21.34 | vick | but i had to append -something |
| 03:21.36 | abrotman | we said that :) |
| 03:21.38 | vick | didn't remember |
| 03:21.47 | vick | yep, except for the correct package name |
| 03:21.51 | vick | it was close tho |
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| 03:21.55 | vick | Thanks a lot for the help :D |
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| 03:22.03 | drusscol | does anyone have any idea how to get linux to recognize a dvd burner in a usb enclosure, or where it can be found if it is being recognized?? |
| 03:22.04 | abrotman | vick: now answer Guerin |
| 03:22.07 | cokecan_ | Sorry, I was on the phone |
| 03:22.20 | cokecan_ | I WANT MY COMPUTER TO WORK!!!!! :-D |
| 03:22.28 | abrotman | kick it |
| 03:22.32 | gilv | how to get a log of the error of iconv ? |
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| 03:22.48 | jdhutchin1 | try the bounce treatment- drop it and see how high it bounces, cokecan_ |
| 03:22.49 | vick | Guerin: i tried dpkg -l X and Xorg and Xfree86, didn't get any results |
| 03:22.54 | jdhutchin1 | if it doesn't work, you then know why |
| 03:22.55 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: I want your crap to work too |
| 03:23.03 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: it's weird what is happening over there |
| 03:23.08 | dinesh | Hi Guys, I downloaded debian sarge using netinst |
| 03:23.10 | vick | Guerin: My VGA card is Nvidia FX 5200 ultra, but actually i'm using vmware |
| 03:23.15 | cokecan_ | It's old, that's why |
| 03:23.26 | cokecan_ | And ASUS doesn't like the 2.6 kernel |
| 03:23.35 | dinesh | but when its 90% machine's powergone |
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| 03:23.58 | dinesh | Is there a method to recover downloaded files |
| 03:24.22 | abrotman | wget will continue |
| 03:24.30 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: it's probably to old to have sloar shielding |
| 03:24.36 | cokecan_ | I find it funny that my laptop did fine |
| 03:24.42 | cokecan_ | sloar shielding? |
| 03:24.56 | dinesh | it downloaded in base configuration |
| 03:25.06 | vick | Guerin: Section "Device" then Identifier "Generic Video Card" then Driver "vmware" then EndSection |
| 03:25.06 | dinesh | now it ask for apt-source again |
| 03:25.16 | cokecan_ | I need me a Gibson |
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| 03:26.21 | cokecan | I really don't want to goto class tomorrow |
| 03:26.25 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: solar shielding, it's a hoax |
| 03:26.41 | cokecan | Oh |
| 03:27.28 | Matthew_I | cokecan: but yeah, not sure why your system is not working |
| 03:27.34 | Matthew_I | cokecan: does it even halfway boot up? |
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| 03:28.09 | cokecan_ | Yea, almost all the way, past the usb crap, and right aftwer the dvd rw and the dvd drives |
| 03:28.15 | vick | Hello, after installing X and starting it i found that i have very thin vertical and horizontall lines (doesn't change for desktop enviroments eg. twm, fluxbox, neither for xdm or kdm), what could be the possible problem(s) and solution(s) ? ( /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 says Section "Device" then Identifier "Generic Video Card" then Driver "vmware" then EndSection ) ( my VGA card nvidia Geforce FX 5200 ultra but i am actually using vmware ) |
| 03:28.20 | vick | Thanks in advance. |
| 03:28.50 | cokecan_ | Well, I am now on www.tigerdirect.com looking for a new mobo + proc |
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| 03:29.47 | psychonate | Is Sarge relatively stable? I use Ubuntu on a box and rather like the package management, so I would like to try Debian on another box. I don't like old packages (not too old at least), so I was thinking about trying Sarge, since Sid sounds too unstable. Does that sound reasonable? |
| 03:29.57 | abrotman | psychonate: yes |
| 03:30.15 | abrotman | psychonate: i use sarge currently .. uhm .. pretty damn stable |
| 03:30.56 | psychonate | Yeah, that sounds good. I want something rather stable with fairly recent packages. Sarge sounds like it offers both, but I wasn't totally sure. |
| 03:30.59 | Matthew_I | psychonate: it's not that sid is unstable, it is just in an inconsistant state, in other words, some packages may have broken deps |
| 03:31.02 | Roburd | is anything special required other than modifying swap partition size when adding ram to a machine? I have one that had 1 Gb and I add another Gb and it wont get to the GRUB screen anymore. I pull it out and it works fine. The sticks are all identical. |
| 03:31.20 | Matthew_I | psychonate: sarge will slowly get old, until the next release which should not take 3 years this time... |
| 03:31.58 | cokecan_ | Dang it! I found a mobo, but it only has 3! I say 3 memory slots! |
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| 03:32.09 | psychonate | Matthew_I, well, I suppose I will try Sarge first. If I find that after a while the packages seem too old, then I guess I will try Sid. |
| 03:32.12 | vick | abrotman: Could you help me out ? |
| 03:32.30 | psychonate | Matthew_I, I like having new versions of packages, but I'm not too crazy about fixing dependencies. |
| 03:32.31 | Matthew_I | psychonate: you could also use testing or just download what you want to from either |
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| 03:32.44 | Matthew_I | psychonate: why? cause apt is awesome and it can do stuff like that |
| 03:32.49 | blitx | How do I take a screen shot in Debian 3.1? |
| 03:32.56 | abrotman | vick: i'm heading to bed .. i'm a tired pup . got up at .. 630EST . it's now 1130 :) |
| 03:33.02 | cokecan_ | ksnapshot |
| 03:33.09 | abrotman | !drxx vick |
| 03:33.10 | dpkg | vick: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 03:33.21 | psychonate | Matthew_I, so you're saying that if some dependency problems do come up, I will likely be able to fix them without *too* much trouble with apt? |
| 03:33.37 | cokecan_ | blitx: right click desktop and click run command, then type in ksnapshot |
| 03:33.47 | Matthew_I | psychonate: maybe |
| 03:33.53 | dondelelcaro | psychonate: so long as you're running stable, you shouldn't run into those issues. |
| 03:33.53 | Matthew_I | psychonate: but yes |
| 03:33.54 | Roburd | thanks for not responding. it was a bios issue |
| 03:33.54 | blitx | got it, thanks |
| 03:34.03 | abrotman | psychonate: might want to stick with testing if you think sid will be too unstable .. and if you don't want issues .. run stable |
| 03:34.03 | psychonate | I'm basically looking for the newest packages available without causing instability. |
| 03:34.07 | dondelelcaro | psychonate: if you're running unstable, they generally can be worked out fairly trivially if you understand what you're doing. |
| 03:34.19 | psychonate | Sarge sounds like it would be the best compromise between the two. |
| 03:34.24 | Matthew_I | psychonate: what I am saying is if you want to use both stable and unstable, you can |
| 03:34.40 | cokecan_ | Is it an AMD thing to only use 3 memory slots? |
| 03:34.41 | Matthew_I | psychonate: but start with sarge |
| 03:34.41 | psychonate | Mixing and matching packages? |
| 03:34.47 | dondelelcaro | Matthew_I: please don't ever recommend mixing stable and unstable here unless you plan on being in channel 24x7 |
| 03:34.48 | abrotman | psychonate: you can always start with sarge . . then upgrade |
| 03:34.52 | Roburd | can anyone guess at when amd64 might be included into mainstream? |
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| 03:35.14 | cokecan_ | Roburd: What do you mean |
| 03:35.15 | cokecan_ | ? |
| 03:35.16 | abrotman | yes .. mixing bad |
| 03:35.28 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: so your system is dying right after loading usb stuff? |
| 03:35.34 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: I say try a newer 2.6 |
| 03:35.40 | Matthew_I | cokecan_: maybe pull one from unstable |
| 03:35.43 | dondelelcaro | (and personally dealing with any problems that such a mixture causes; note: with the various transitions that we're undergoing, mixing unstable with anything besides large quantities of alchohol can be hazardous to your health) |
| 03:35.46 | psychonate | OK, I think I will try Sarge first, and then upgrade if I feel the need. I appreciate your comments. Thanks :) |
| 03:36.08 | cokecan_ | How do I pull one from unstable? The USB is quite a ways before the failure |
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| 03:36.42 | adsadsad | disable usb? |
| 03:36.42 | cokecan_ | The last thing to run is the optical drives |
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| 03:37.51 | Roburd | cokecan: the amd64 version of Sarge has been deemed stable by debian but has not yet been officially released. I am wondering in general how long it takes for a port to be deemed stable and then get included in the archive? |
| 03:38.22 | cokecan_ | Got ya, I thought you meant something else |
| 03:38.24 | maher | Roburd: the next release will have amd64 - they only just missed this one... |
| 03:38.25 | Roburd | cokecan: weeks? months? years? |
| 03:38.30 | Roburd | thx |
| 03:38.54 | maher | Roburd: but amd64 sarge is probably reasonably functional of you want to use it |
| 03:39.09 | Roburd | so maybe in a couple of months? |
| 03:39.16 | Roburd | maher: thanks |
| 03:39.28 | maher | Roburd: use it now - it will never be released as sarge because sarge is already done |
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| 03:39.40 | dondelelcaro | Roburd: it's not an official release, it's just a release supported by Debian Developers. |
| 03:39.43 | Roburd | ahh. so it will be in etch? |
| 03:39.47 | maher | Roburd: yes |
| 03:39.55 | vick | heh |
| 03:40.08 | vick | Hello, after installing X and starting it i found that i have very thin vertical and horizontall lines (doesn't change for desktop enviroments eg. twm, fluxbox, neither for xdm or kdm), what could be the possible problem(s) and solution(s) ? ( /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 says Section "Device" then Identifier "Generic Video Card" then Driver "vesa" then EndSection ) ( my VGA card nvidia Geforce FX 5200 ultra but i am actually using vmware ) |
| 03:40.26 | vick | Kind of like a shadow, as if X didn't finish inital starting. |
| 03:40.51 | Roburd | thanks for the info cokecan, maher, dondelelcaro. |
| 03:40.58 | Aonelyn | heh , how do i install bit torrent =P |
| 03:41.11 | DoppelGanger | carefully |
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| 03:41.41 | cokecan_ | Matthew_I: How do I get an unstable version? |
| 03:41.53 | Guerin | cokecan_: you don't |
| 03:42.04 | cokecan_ | Oh |
| 03:42.06 | cokecan_ | Ok |
| 03:42.11 | cokecan_ | Makes sense.... |
| 03:42.12 | DoppelGanger | steal it from a man named Shaft |
| 03:42.22 | Roburd | John SHaft? |
| 03:42.33 | recall | they need to keep etch as testing indefinately |
| 03:42.39 | recall | the name, I mean |
| 03:42.51 | Aonelyn | wtb information on how to install bit torrent..pst =) |
| 03:42.55 | recall | because Debian Etch is the coolest sounding name yet |
| 03:42.56 | DoppelGanger | of course john shaft |
| 03:43.11 | dondelelcaro | Aonelyn: aptitude install bittornado. |
| 03:43.20 | Aonelyn | lol whats that |
| 03:43.26 | DoppelGanger | a tornado |
| 03:43.28 | Roburd | they say that dude's a bad mutha (shut yo mouth). ;) |
| 03:43.28 | Guerin | Aonelyn: suck and see |
| 03:43.40 | DoppelGanger | Roburd: you talking about shaft |
| 03:43.43 | Aonelyn | dont see anything |
| 03:43.53 | dondelelcaro | Aonelyn: apt-cache show bittornado; |
| 03:43.55 | cokecan_ | Athlon 64, which socket do I want? |
| 03:43.55 | Roburd | <-- who me?? |
| 03:43.57 | dondelelcaro | !tell Aonelyn -about search |
| 03:44.01 | recall | actually, just rename Debian as Etch |
| 03:44.07 | DoppelGanger | :) |
| 03:44.21 | Roburd | :) |
| 03:44.22 | recall | the confusion would be hilarious! |
| 03:44.53 | cokecan_ | Matthew_I: Which AMD64 socket is recomended? |
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| 03:45.19 | recall | I'm serious, woody vs. etch, is there even a question? |
| 03:45.24 | recall | :) |
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| 03:45.35 | DoppelGanger | i kinda like woody for its other connotations |
| 03:45.49 | DoppelGanger | only thing i can think of with etch is etch a sketch |
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| 03:45.51 | sbolivar | i have a problem copying the following file: |
| 03:45.57 | sbolivar | root@laptop:/home/sbolivar# cp /home/sbolivar/roms /usr/share/games/xmame/roms |
| 03:45.57 | sbolivar | cp: omitting directory `/home/sbolivar/roms' |
| 03:45.57 | sbolivar | root@laptop:/home/sbolivar# |
| 03:46.00 | Roburd | :) |
| 03:46.01 | Aonelyn | hey i did apt-cache show bittornado |
| 03:46.05 | Aonelyn | now what |
| 03:46.06 | Aonelyn | heh |
| 03:46.10 | Roburd | shake it and it goes away? |
| 03:46.11 | sbolivar | what am i doing wrong? |
| 03:46.11 | DoppelGanger | sbolivar: man cp |
| 03:46.14 | dondelelcaro | sbolivar: roms is a directory; use the -r option; man cp |
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| 03:47.39 | Roburd | does anyone know of a better way than top to report the same kind of stuff? (top is incorrectly reporting physical memory stuff). :( |
| 03:47.55 | recall | does anyone know what KDE's font path is? maybe I missed it, but it seems rather undocumented |
| 03:47.59 | dondelelcaro | Roburd: no, it's not incorrectly reporting it; you're just not understanding the output from top |
| 03:48.14 | dondelelcaro | Aonelyn: read /topic and do not /msg me; I gave you the command to install it already. |
| 03:48.15 | Roburd | ok |
| 03:48.25 | Roburd | read the manual i suppose? |
| 03:48.29 | recall | double 'does anyone...'s, uh oh! |
| 03:48.34 | chealer | recall: try asking #debian-kde |
| 03:48.39 | gilv | Is there a command that prints the number of lines of a text file ? |
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| 03:48.51 | dondelelcaro | Roburd: it's slightly more complex; top reports RSS and VSS; those are real numbers, but they like because a large percentage of that is shared between processes. |
| 03:48.54 | sbolivar | thank you |
| 03:48.54 | dondelelcaro | gilv: wc -l |
| 03:48.55 | chealer | gilv: man wc |
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| 03:49.39 | Aonelyn | dondelelcaro whoa chill sorry im not used to this irc network..im usualy on irc.eqemulator.net ... |
| 03:49.50 | d0s4gw | hey, i'm having a problem accessing certain web pages |
| 03:50.01 | DoppelGanger | d0s4gw: try lynx |
| 03:50.02 | DoppelGanger | he he |
| 03:50.03 | d0s4gw | things like yahoo mail dont work in linux, but the work in windows |
| 03:50.06 | vick | :( |
| 03:50.09 | dondelelcaro | Aonelyn: well, I'd strongly suggest reading /topic then; since it's explained there. |
| 03:50.17 | Aonelyn | i dont read topics |
| 03:50.20 | Aonelyn | sorry |
| 03:50.20 | MoonGladeGal | what is tmpfs /dev/shm ? |
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| 03:50.22 | Aonelyn | dont flame me |
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| 03:50.36 | Guerin | sounds like a great opportunity to get free of yapoo |
| 03:50.59 | daedalus_ | !doesn't work |
| 03:50.59 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 03:50.59 | Guerin | if it's true, which i suspect it's not |
| 03:51.04 | Roburd | top is saying Mem: 906736k total, 902732k used, 4774k free, 2652k buffers but there is 2gb in machine. what am I missing? |
| 03:51.11 | d0s4gw | well its not just yahoo. things like my bank website and that other stuff dont work either |
| 03:51.17 | d0s4gw | although gmail works... |
| 03:51.20 | Guerin | Roburd: a kernel with himem |
| 03:51.23 | dondelelcaro | Roburd: you're missing himem support |
| 03:51.26 | Guerin | d0s4gw: get a bank with a real website |
| 03:51.30 | d0s4gw | jesus |
| 03:51.33 | daedalus_ | !tell d0s4gw about doesn't work |
| 03:51.34 | d0s4gw | get fucked |
| 03:51.35 | dondelelcaro | Roburd: you probably need to recompile that kernel |
| 03:51.43 | Guerin | d0s4gw: sounds like he got fucked |
| 03:51.44 | DoppelGanger | wth |
| 03:51.47 | DoppelGanger | he he |
| 03:51.49 | DoppelGanger | yeah |
| 03:51.58 | daedalus_ | *laughs* |
| 03:52.04 | DoppelGanger | must have been something someone said |
| 03:52.07 | recall | yahoo is funky, their launch music video service is way too constricted |
| 03:52.10 | DoppelGanger | :) |
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| 03:53.22 | vick | Hello, after installing X and starting it i found it have a kind of shadow above it, as if it didn't continue loading, but actually things like fluxbox work beneath the shdow (doesn't change for desktop enviroments eg. twm, fluxbox, neither for xdm or kdm), what could be the possible problem(s) and solution(s) ? ( /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 says Section "Device" then Identifier "Generic Video Card" then Driver "vesa" then EndSection ) ( my VGA card nvidia Geforce FX 5 |
| 03:53.29 | Roburd | thanks Guerin, dondelecaro. |
| 03:53.44 | vick | Guerin: Could you help me out please ? |
| 03:54.46 | Guerin | vick: use 'vn' instead of vesa |
| 03:54.49 | Guerin | bah |
| 03:54.50 | Guerin | nv |
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| 03:56.07 | chealer | I just red something quite funny in Joerg's announce : "Joey Schulze from the Security Team" ^_^ |
| 03:56.29 | SDFH_Linux | any word on when 2.6.12 will be released for debian? |
| 03:56.36 | chealer | SDFH_Linux: it's done |
| 03:56.42 | Guerin | SDFH_Linux: in about -2 weeks |
| 03:56.52 | vick | Guerin: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0, after 0 requests (0 unknown processed) with 0 events remaining |
| 03:56.53 | SDFH_Linux | cool |
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| 03:57.04 | Guerin | vick: dunno, then |
| 03:57.11 | john | How can I uninstall kde via apt-get remove? |
| 03:57.12 | Guerin | vick: rtfl |
| 03:57.17 | Guerin | !remove kde |
| 03:57.18 | dpkg | from memory, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 03:57.21 | vick | what's rtfl ? |
| 03:57.49 | vick | Guerin: removing kde will help ? |
| 03:57.59 | chealer | !2.6.12 |
| 03:57.59 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, 2.6.12 is Kernel 2.6.12 has changes which require looking at.udev users need to use 0.58. VMware is known to have patches. Virtual midi alsa is also not included would appear, alsa 1.0.9 modules from alsa-source fixes. |
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| 03:58.09 | john | no, that was for me |
| 03:58.10 | john | probably |
| 03:58.11 | john | lol |
| 03:58.16 | chealer | what's that alsa trouble? |
| 03:58.26 | SDFH_Linux | si there a deb repos with kde 3.4.2 yet? |
| 03:58.29 | john | wow, it's removing everything lol |
| 03:58.36 | chealer | SDFH_Linux: #debian-kde |
| 03:58.38 | john | i want k3b and all that.. oh well, i'll reinstall all that other junk |
| 03:58.45 | john | ty |
| 03:58.47 | Roburd | thanks for the help. I gotta drop on the bed now. night. |
| 03:58.56 | drusscol | does anyone know if it's possible to burn a vfat partition directly onto a dvd and mount it in linux/windows? |
| 03:59.00 | vick | Guerin: Could i take this issue to other channels perhaps someone there know ? |
| 03:59.40 | vick | Guerin: wanna see a screenshot ? |
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| 04:00.14 | mombof | the flames are gonna fly on thisone.....how do you undelete on an ext3 fs |
| 04:00.34 | vick | Guerin: i am not braging, i mean in concern to the problem |
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| 04:01.36 | useruser | where are mouse pointer images stored? |
| 04:03.07 | ^ZeRoCoL^ | hi |
| 04:03.31 | ^ZeRoCoL^ | how to send read confirmation on evolution mail client ??? |
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| 04:04.55 | vick | Could someone help me out please with my X windows problem ? |
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| 04:05.35 | daedalus_ | !tell vick about ask |
| 04:05.42 | Aonelnnn | bleh..can someone walk me through a bit torrent install =/ <--newbie |
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| 04:05.58 | vick | !ask |
| 04:05.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 04:06.07 | vick | Hello, after installing X and starting it i found it have a kind of shadow above it, as if it didn't continue loading, but actually things like fluxbox work beneath the shdow (doesn't change for desktop enviroments eg. twm, fluxbox, neither for xdm or kdm), what could be the possible problem(s) and solution(s) ? ( /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 says Section "Device" then Identifier "Generic Video Card" then Driver "vesa" then EndSection ) ( my VGA card nvidia Geforce FX 5 |
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| 04:06.23 | vick | Debian version 3.1, Stable. |
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| 04:07.45 | cokecan | Can someone tell me which 64 bit processor is good? |
| 04:07.46 | daedalus_ | vick: have you tried using the nvidia drivers? |
| 04:07.51 | chealer | dpkg: 2.6.12 is also the kernel in which the new kernel packaging was introduced. see http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6.html for the list of new binary packages built |
| 04:07.51 | dpkg | okay, chealer |
| 04:08.12 | metaperl | !nvidia one-liner |
| 04:08.12 | dpkg | hmm... nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 04:08.45 | daedalus_ | cokecan: both flavors work.... you probably don't want an Itanium though |
| 04:08.57 | chealer | cokecan: that's a strange question |
| 04:10.22 | cokecan | I'm sorry, what is a good Athlon 64 bit processor? |
| 04:10.27 | cokecan | No gaming |
| 04:10.41 | cokecan | Just a well built desktop |
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| 04:18.55 | vick | debhelper, metaperl: I am getting them now. |
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| 04:22.27 | TwistedEmotions | Hi guys... wondering does anyone have a php webpage already done that I can look at that covers the basics so I can learn it... ? |
| 04:22.42 | vick | metaperl, daedalus_: i've got `module assistant , installation of nvidia-kernel-source source failed. ignoring this package. maybe you need to add something to sources.list, maybe the contrib and non-free archives` |
| 04:22.47 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: try asking #php |
| 04:22.48 | TwistedEmotions | whoops... thought I was in #php... hehehe |
| 04:22.51 | kamaraju | Let's say I have two files file1, file2. I modify these files slightly and create file3, file4 respectively. Now is there any way I can create a single patch which when applied will create temp3, temp4 from temp1, temp2? I know how to get individual patches (diff temp1 temp3 > patch1; diff temp2 temp4 >patch2). But I want a single patch file instead of two patch files. Is it possible? |
| 04:23.12 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: hahah in there... but typed to the wrong room ;) |
| 04:23.24 | dondelelcaro | kamaraju: diff temp1 temp3 > patch; diff temp2 temp4 >> patch; |
| 04:23.48 | shivraj | kamaraju dont you thinkure nuts |
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| 04:24.16 | shivraj | and dondelelcaro is wrong |
| 04:24.30 | kamaraju | dondelelcaro: What if there are very large number of files? |
| 04:24.38 | dondelelcaro | kamaraju: use a for loop |
| 04:24.47 | dondelelcaro | kamaraju: or, if you've got two directories, use the -R option of diff |
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| 04:24.53 | EvilSporkMan | why does the GPL FAQ claim that source must be available by mail order when the GPL itself doesn't seem to mention this? |
| 04:25.09 | kamaraju | dondelelcaro: ok. Thanks |
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| 04:25.42 | shivraj | fuck i need some pussy |
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| 04:26.04 | kamaraju | shivraj: Why do you think I am nuts? If you dont know the answer just shut up. No need to criticize others like that. |
| 04:26.07 | chalenged | cokecan_: 64 bit cpus just work using 64 bit...the generally run 32 bit software too...ie AMD64 is mixed Pure64 = only 64 bit versioning i beleive |
| 04:26.16 | dondelelcaro | kamaraju: the dude was already banned |
| 04:26.17 | chealer | kamaraju: he already got foot |
| 04:26.40 | dondelelcaro | EvilSporkMan: because that's usually how the "offer to give source valid for 3 years" is generally given |
| 04:27.04 | dondelelcaro | EvilSporkMan: in most cases, (like Debian) the source is provided alongside, so those GPL clauses don't activate. |
| 04:27.09 | daedalus_ | !tell vick about nvidia one liner |
| 04:27.20 | kamaraju | dondelelcaro: chealer: thanks. I was a bit late on sending that messsage. By the time I sent that message, he was banned. Thanks |
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| 04:27.43 | EvilSporkMan | dondelelcaro: oh, i get it...i didn't think of how the usual case wouldn't activate that clause |
| 04:27.55 | chealer | vick: do you have non-free and contrib sources? |
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| 04:28.13 | dondelelcaro | EvilSporkMan: yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be done by mail, but that's a reasonable method. |
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| 04:28.45 | AdrianLP | The #samba channel has all been totally useless in getting answers to a printing problem of mine. Are samba questions allowed at all here? I'm running it on a Debian box. |
| 04:29.00 | daedalus_ | Go for it. |
| 04:29.28 | daedalus_ | It's totally out of my league, but someone might know something about it. |
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| 04:29.43 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: you can ask any question related to Debian here; it's just that you're often better off asking them in the channels that are specific to an app if they exist. |
| 04:29.45 | AdrianLP | I've installed a printer with cups in Debian. Then remotely installed that printer with windows. When I try to print from windows, I get this error: tdb(/var/cache/samba/printing/HL-1430.tdb): rec_free_read bad magic 0xfee1dead at offset=47732 |
| 04:30.15 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: I have indeed tried that. The channel is all but dead, and the two who are speaking don't seem to know any solutions. |
| 04:30.24 | AdrianLP | I've searched google, I see others with the same problem. |
| 04:30.31 | daedalus_ | The key part of all that, I assume, is that you had the windows box working at some point? |
| 04:31.47 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: Yes, this printer on this Debian box could be printed too just fine from Windows. And, in fact, the Debian box will still print locally just fine. |
| 04:32.01 | roast | my home directory loses its 'other' executible bit from time to time, locking apache out of my public_html. is there a reason why it randomly reverts even after I issue yet another "chmod u+x ~"? where should I check/change this behavior? |
| 04:32.03 | vick | chealer: added them now and trying |
| 04:32.13 | AdrianLP | When printing remotely I also see this error: find_printer_index_by_hnd: Printer handle not found: _spoolss_writeprinter: Invalid handle (OTHER:5109:6030) But again local printing works fine. |
| 04:32.26 | Aonelnnn | BITCHES |
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| 04:33.44 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: Have you tried deleting /var/cache/samba/printing.tdb and restarting samba? |
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| 04:34.28 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: err... well, that tdb file in /var/cache/samba/printing |
| 04:34.30 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: No, I didn't know that Samba would remake that file. |
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| 04:34.40 | daedalus_ | Yeah, it's just a volatile cache |
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| 04:35.19 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: as far as I can tell |
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| 04:35.28 | AdrianLP | Deleted. Restarting samba. |
| 04:35.31 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: might want to back it up, just ot be safe |
| 04:35.36 | daedalus_ | ewps |
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| 04:35.46 | AdrianLP | You're right, its back. Let me see if same errors on remote printing occur. |
| 04:35.55 | benjamindees | what do I need to sacrifice to get Mozilla to respect my umask? |
| 04:36.15 | daedalus_ | benjamindees: your firstborn? |
| 04:36.32 | benjamindees | daedalus_, that poses a problem... |
| 04:36.34 | daedalus_ | benjamindees: seriously,,, What do you mean by "respect my umask"? |
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| 04:36.47 | litage | any comments on WD's 10,000rpm SATA Raptor drives? |
| 04:37.00 | mage | hey can I tell synaptic to only look at one repository at a time without removing it? |
| 04:37.03 | benjamindees | daedalus_, directories created by Moz are, umm, 066 I think |
| 04:37.42 | benjamindees | daedalus_, oops, not 066 |
| 04:37.53 | benjamindees | 755 |
| 04:38.34 | mage | without removing the other ones I mean.. I wish to check for updates in stable but have unstable in there too |
| 04:38.34 | benjamindees | and, bugzilla is a mess, they think they've fixed it like three different times... |
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| 04:39.34 | benjamindees | they even blame gtk, though I'm not sure whether Deb uses gtk in Moz or not |
| 04:41.18 | AdrianLP | Heh, now when I tried to add the printer in windows, the user/pass I provide during the install says the account hasn't enough credentials to access the account. In cups I've made sure that user jedi can access it. The samba log doesn't say auth failed, but it does say: find_printer_index_by_hnd: Printer handle not found: _spoolss_writeprinter: Invalid handle (OTHER:5109:6138) as before |
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| 04:42.00 | daedalus_ | benjamindees: hmmm... I don't know. A glance through google didn't yield anything tasty. |
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| 04:43.01 | adsadsad | how can i know the current root path? |
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| 04:43.34 | dbernar1 | hi, I have a printer. Its model is not shown in my gnome-cups-add when I try to add it. I also use ubuntu sometimes, and the printer is shown in the same place as described. I have reasons to believe this printer's driver is in the gimp-print package, sound reasonable? |
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| 04:43.40 | chealer | adsadsad: do you mean the path of root's home? |
| 04:43.51 | benjamindees | adsadsad, not sure if this is what you want, but 'echo $PATH' as root |
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| 04:44.06 | dbernar1 | maybe he wants absolute path |
| 04:44.11 | adsadsad | the path i set with chroot |
| 04:44.28 | benjamindees | ah, no, that's kind of the point of chroot |
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| 04:45.15 | dbernar1 | ok, well, I am gonna go try it out. |
| 04:45.16 | adsadsad | ah |
| 04:45.23 | Gumby | I keep getting errors saying my locale isnt set. Is there an easy way to set this up? |
| 04:45.43 | vick | What does 'No screen found' output of X means ? |
| 04:45.57 | chealer | !no screens found |
| 04:45.57 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 04:46.12 | chealer | Gumby: try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 04:46.54 | AdrianLP | Perhaps samba is pooched, in my case, and needs --purge --reinstall ? |
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| 04:47.29 | adsadsad | benjamindees: /etc/networking/interfaces is a kernel conf file? |
| 04:47.59 | vick | i got failed to load module GLcore , module doesn't not exist |
| 04:48.06 | vick | should i go for apt-get install GLcore ? |
| 04:48.19 | benjamindees | adsadsad, not technically |
| 04:48.27 | litage | does the linux kernel support SATA II yet? |
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| 04:48.31 | adsadsad | benjamindees: so if i chroot where newroot/etc/networking/interfaces doesn't exists the ethernet stop to work? |
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| 04:49.10 | benjamindees | adsadsad, ethernet stops working because /proc isn't mounted |
| 04:49.14 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: maybe http://www.mail-archive.com/samba@lists.samba.org/msg36638.html ? |
| 04:49.15 | chealer | vick: no. how did you install the driver? did you follow andrew shulman's howto? |
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| 04:50.06 | adsadsad | so also /proc from /etc/fstab is under the chroot newroot? |
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| 04:50.56 | benjamindees | adsadsad, honestly I'm not the guy to ask about that; google can probably help |
| 04:51.15 | vick | chealer: andrew shulman ? |
| 04:51.37 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: How do you duplicate a printer? |
| 04:51.42 | vick | !tell vick about nvidia one-liner |
| 04:51.46 | adsadsad | ok, but better try :) |
| 04:51.47 | vick | grr |
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| 04:52.06 | vick | !tell chealer about nvidia one-liner |
| 04:52.10 | chealer | !nvidia-howto |
| 04:52.10 | dpkg | hmm... nvidia-howto is http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Sid, or http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt for Woody. |
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| 04:53.19 | vick | what's the diffrence between Sarge, Sid and woody? |
| 04:53.19 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: That is to say, I can make a new instance of the printer, but that doesn't seem to create a new UNC for the printer instance. |
| 04:53.41 | chealer | vick: sarge is stable, sid is unstable, woody is "old stable" (the previous stable) |
| 04:53.43 | dbernar1 | vick: /msg dpkg versions |
| 04:53.49 | chealer | !tell vick about releases |
| 04:54.10 | dbernar1 | right... |
| 04:54.18 | benjamindees | how can I find out what a "gtk2 filepicker" looks like? |
| 04:54.30 | Gumby | chealer: hrm, I ran that. Still getting local errors "man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct |
| 04:54.31 | Gumby | " |
| 04:54.35 | Gumby | I get that when running man |
| 04:54.40 | chealer | benjamindees: I guess you'd open a file using a GTK[2] app |
| 04:54.51 | Gumby | where are these variables located? |
| 04:55.06 | chealer | Gumby: what does $ locale basically return? |
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| 04:55.36 | dbernar1 | ok, well, does any of you guys know about gimp-print? I am trying to get my printer set up, and I believe the driver is in gimp-print. I use sarge, and dpkg says the package is in sid. Also, there is a foomatic-db-gimp-print package on sarge. I installed it, it did not add the printer drivers I want./ |
| 04:55.46 | Gumby | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 04:55.47 | Gumby | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 04:55.47 | Gumby | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 04:55.47 | benjamindees | chealer, gimp for instance? |
| 04:56.00 | Gumby | and then the rest show locales (mostly en_CA) |
| 04:56.05 | chealer | benjamindees: hopefully |
| 04:56.20 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: I have no idea :( |
| 04:56.38 | daedalus_ | But perhaps this is a more tractable problem? |
| 04:56.47 | drusscol | anyone know what port webmin listens on? |
| 04:56.55 | daedalus_ | 10000 |
| 04:56.55 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: More tractable? |
| 04:56.57 | Gumby | usually 10000 by default |
| 04:57.09 | daedalus_ | adrianLP: tractable == solveable |
| 04:57.18 | drusscol | thanks |
| 04:57.19 | chealer | Gumby: do you have en_CA ISO-8859-1 checked in dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
| 04:57.52 | Gumby | chealer, yes I do |
| 04:58.05 | Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.05 | Gumby | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.09 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: Well, yes/no. Making a second instance of a printer may or may notn even solve the problem :( |
| 04:58.28 | daedalus_ | Well, true... though it's better than nothing, mayhaps? |
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| 04:59.29 | paivakil | looks like /msg dpkg guidelines gives an incomplete message? |
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| 05:00.00 | dbernar1 | maybe this is easier to answer. I am thinking of installing a sid package onto my sarge. Does that sound not stupid? is there sometyhing I should know about? |
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| 05:00.12 | chealer | !factinfo guidelines |
| 05:00.12 | dpkg | guidelines -- last modified at Mon Jul 18 14:49:27 2005 by stew!~stew@dsl254-118-199.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net; it has been requested 221 times, last by chealer, 9s ago. |
| 05:00.23 | benjamindees | ugh, gtk2 filepickers don't respect umask either :( |
| 05:01.12 | recall | dbernar1, read any bug reports, and if your in a mission-critical situation, don't update anything that could affect that. |
| 05:01.26 | paivakil | chealer: it ends with ``8) No trolls or spam., if'' |
| 05:01.26 | chealer | dbernar1: yes, how to setup a sarge/sid mix (without going to unstable) |
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| 05:01.36 | chealer | paivakil: you're right, let's kill stew |
| 05:01.37 | paivakil | somthing wrong at my end? |
| 05:02.41 | chealer | paivakil: I sent him a memo |
| 05:02.57 | benjamindees | !tell dbernar1 about quick sid/sarge mix |
| 05:03.08 | dbernar1 | hehe, mission critical... |
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| 05:03.42 | recall | ugh. is there any reason the freetype autohinter would make my fonts look worse? |
| 05:03.52 | recall | because they do. |
| 05:03.53 | predius | I get "automake: no `Makefile.am' found or specified" when I run automake, when Makefile.am is right there. |
| 05:04.00 | predius | What could be the problem? |
| 05:04.43 | chealer | dpkg: no, nvidia-howto is http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Etch. Warning : follow the instructions with some care. in particular, if you don't know better, set NVDIST=stable instead of testing or unstable |
| 05:04.44 | dpkg | okay, chealer |
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| 05:05.32 | Gumby | hooray for blootbot |
| 05:05.36 | Gumby | hehe |
| 05:05.59 | deadcat | whats the command to reconfig apache modules? |
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| 05:06.51 | chacho | is there a way to get XMMS to remove duplicates from the playlist |
| 05:07.17 | daedalus_ | deadcat: apachectl restart? |
| 05:07.19 | chacho | like if you add a directory, add some songs to that directory, then add the directory again |
| 05:07.28 | chacho | get it to only keep the new ones you put in that directory |
| 05:07.32 | deadcat | daedalus_: no. load an apache mod |
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| 05:08.01 | daedalus_ | chacho: #1: not a debian problem. #2: I don't know of any method to uniqque songs. |
| 05:08.36 | chacho | k, sorry, just no one talks in the xmms channel :/ |
| 05:09.01 | daedalus_ | deadcat: dpkg-reconfigure apache or apache-modules? (guess) |
| 05:09.02 | deadcat | daedalus_: damn its in dpkg-reconfigure apache )=. i thought it was a diff name |
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| 05:09.08 | daedalus_ | Hehe |
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| 05:09.15 | recall | chacho, have you searched for a xmms plugin? |
| 05:09.27 | deadcat | daedalus_: hmm. doesnt show php5 |
| 05:09.28 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: I got it! Thank you, the article you sent worked. I just added a second printer (well its the same printer, different name), and windows can install/use this one fine. It just can't, for some reason, use the old printer which is the same printer with a different name. Samba bug perhaps. |
| 05:09.30 | recall | that has to be a popular request, and should be easy to do |
| 05:09.34 | chacho | recall, no i havent, good idea |
| 05:10.39 | lordfreak | hi people |
| 05:10.41 | deadcat | is php5 only work with apache2? i am on apache |
| 05:10.48 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: cool. Glad I could help. FYI: I plugged in a fraction of the error message into google and just went through the results... only 3 pages to drill through. |
| 05:11.14 | dbernar1 | will cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list open sources.list, duplicate your sarge lines |
| 05:11.25 | dbernar1 | should eh? |
| 05:11.30 | lordfreak | there are any chanel about Solaris ????? |
| 05:11.31 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: I kept trying different portions, I found results, most were unanswered group questions though. Nothing more annoying then that. |
| 05:11.33 | daedalus_ | deadcat: heh, no, in fact, they recommend that you _dont_ go to apache2 |
| 05:11.39 | deadcat | daedalus_: try it |
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| 05:11.48 | deadcat | daedalus_: cool (= |
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| 05:12.19 | chealer | deadcat: I doubt it. php5 recommends apache2, however |
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| 05:12.26 | daedalus_ | AdrianLP: Yeah, I saw those too... I think the one that worked was the very last page, iirc :) |
| 05:12.37 | chealer | deadcat: s/I doubt it/No |
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| 05:12.52 | daedalus_ | chealer: eh? That's not what I heard |
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| 05:13.30 | cplx | Why is it when I su to root from another user.. going 'su root' I put my pass in and then it says its invalid.. |
| 05:13.31 | cplx | any ideas? |
| 05:13.32 | deadcat | if i have php5, should rm the php4 stuff? |
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| 05:13.46 | dbernar1 | ok that does not work, you cant have same input and output file. |
| 05:13.50 | chealer | daedalus_: about which version is recommended, just look at the changelog ( http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php5/news/1.html ) |
| 05:13.59 | dbernar1 | which is irrelevant now. |
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| 05:14.31 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: I think the error is with how Windows caches the printer name, perhaps. I renamed my original printer in cups to "old", and the new working one to "HL-1435", which is what I used previous. Making appropriate changes in Windows, the error about not enough credentials comes up again. |
| 05:14.46 | chealer | deadcat: libapache-mod-php5 should conflict with libapache-mod-php4 |
| 05:15.08 | deadcat | chealer: ok. because its showing 4 in phpinfo. |
| 05:15.26 | chealer | deadcat: ...and you have php5? |
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| 05:15.32 | cplx | Why is it when I su to root from another user.. going 'su root' I put my pass in and then it says its invalid.. |
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| 05:15.40 | deadcat | chealer: both right now. php4 will rm squirrelmail as well. |
| 05:16.05 | mwilson | cplx: What do you expect it to do, when you put in the wrong password? |
| 05:16.20 | cplx | mwilson: im not that thick.. I can login to root directly with the pass im using *sigh* |
| 05:17.10 | chealer | deadcat: how did you get php5 installed while keeping php4 :? |
| 05:17.22 | fortysixand2 | cplx: probably will make no difference, but have you tried just "su"? |
| 05:17.32 | cplx | fortysixand2: yes.. I tried just su |
| 05:17.38 | deadcat | chealer: no clue. apt-get php5 today. 4 stayed |
| 05:17.45 | dbernar1 | so.......how about that bug report, that I should look into about installing a sid package onto sarge. Is that the bts? |
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| 05:18.03 | daedalus_ | chealer: that's so totally in unstable. |
| 05:18.13 | mwilson | cplx: And the *actual* error message you receive is...? |
| 05:18.18 | Sazpaimon_ | Anyone ever install vhcs via debian? |
| 05:18.19 | cplx | ... |
| 05:18.24 | chealer | dbernar1: hum...which bug report? |
| 05:18.35 | fortysixand2 | cplx: ok, is your use in the "wheel" group? I think you have to be in that group to be able to su |
| 05:18.40 | mwilson | cplx: You find it odd that someone asks that? |
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| 05:18.43 | mwilson | fortysixand2: No. |
| 05:18.47 | fortysixand2 | or you used to be, anyway |
| 05:18.49 | cplx | mwilson: what other message would I get.. 'su: incorrect password' |
| 05:18.51 | dbernar1 | 19:01 < recall> dbernar1, read any bug reports, and if your in a mission-critical situation, don't update anything that could affect that. |
| 05:18.57 | mwilson | Or you never had to be, actually. |
| 05:19.21 | mwilson | Since, after all, there is no 'wheel' group in Debian. |
| 05:19.25 | fortysixand2 | you;re an ass |
| 05:19.34 | fortysixand2 | I'm trying here |
| 05:19.39 | fortysixand2 | to the best of my knowledge |
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| 05:19.44 | recall | dbernar1, I meant for the specific package, sorry if I wasn't clear |
| 05:19.51 | fortysixand2 | you are always short with people |
| 05:19.52 | daedalus_ | chealer: *shrugs* The php.net folks don't recommend it. I guess if the debian way dictates apache2... potential for bad server behaviour though *shrugs* |
| 05:19.56 | fortysixand2 | why do you even bother? |
| 05:19.58 | mwilson | Really. The group doesn't exist, has never existed, but I'm an ass for asking him the actual error message he receives. |
| 05:20.05 | dbernar1 | off course, I knew that. thanks. W#here do I look for bug reports, is that the bts? |
| 05:20.18 | fortysixand2 | you're right |
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| 05:20.20 | fortysixand2 | I'm sorry |
| 05:20.28 | fortysixand2 | It's been a horrible day |
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| 05:20.34 | chealer | daedalus_: heh. PHP really should work with apache2 |
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| 05:21.03 | recall | dbernar1, yes |
| 05:21.08 | dbernar1 | oki |
| 05:21.20 | deadcat | i jsut rm all the php4 packages. but php5 just isnt loading. |
| 05:21.21 | daedalus_ | chealer: In general it does, but the PEAR modules aren't thread safe because it's a user-submission thing and making thread safe modules is hard.... |
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| 05:21.50 | daedalus_ | chealer: and apache2 depends upon it's modules being thread safe in most cases. |
| 05:21.59 | recall | dbernar1, if you don't have it installed, look into apt-listbugs |
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| 05:22.19 | chealer | daedalus_: oh, I don't know much about pear |
| 05:22.19 | ke6isf | What's a good utility to monitor a serial port? |
| 05:22.35 | deadcat | no *php*.so in /usr/lib/apache/1.3/ |
| 05:22.41 | mwilson | Define "monitor". |
| 05:23.01 | dbernar1 | recall: look into like what? man apt-listbugs perhaps? |
| 05:23.04 | chealer | deadcat: so you have both libapache-mod-php4 and libapache-mod-php5 installed at the same time? |
| 05:23.07 | daedalus_ | chealer: neither do I, but there's a veritable shitstorm in the php+apache groups about it.... |
| 05:23.14 | deadcat | chealer: all php4 stuff are gone now. |
| 05:23.14 | chealer | deadcat: s/have/had |
| 05:23.22 | ke6isf | mwilson: Something like modem lights. Note, it's not a modem - it's a handheld sync cradle. |
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| 05:23.24 | deadcat | chealer: i had them. ya. |
| 05:23.50 | recall | dbernar1, it's a debian package. it will fetch bug reports before a package is installed. |
| 05:23.55 | chealer | deadcat: that's strange. apt-cache show libapache-mod-php5 |
| 05:23.55 | chealer | [...] Conflicts: php3, php4 (<< 4:4.3.8-6), libapache-mod-php4 |
| 05:24.05 | dbernar1 | recall: when you say look into, what do I do? |
| 05:24.17 | deadcat | chealer: oh damn. |
| 05:24.27 | recall | apt-get install apt-listbugs =) |
| 05:24.37 | deadcat | anyone here using php5 in sid? |
| 05:24.55 | dbernar1 | abnd then apt-listbugs gimp-print, and that will tell me...I suppose... |
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| 05:26.00 | deadcat | chealer: HAHAHAH. fuck me. i installed libapache2-mod-php5 (= |
| 05:26.02 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 05:26.35 | recall | dbernar1, apt-listbugs list gimp-print, apt-listbugs --help if you have trouble |
| 05:26.36 | chealer | deadcat: your evil side can't get enough of bleeding edge |
| 05:26.47 | AdrianLP | daedalus_: I just wonder if its a Windows error, or Samba. The article you sent me to suggests it might be a Samba 3.x error, and I am indeed using3.0.14a-Debian. |
| 05:27.01 | mike-m | I can't show this text in color with bash using konsole: echo '\[\033[01;30m\]mike' |
| 05:27.01 | recall | you need to be root to use apt-listbugs |
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| 05:27.13 | deadcat | chealer: hahah.. i think it was the rush to apt-get it and tab completion did me good. (= |
| 05:27.24 | dbernar1 | no bugs |
| 05:27.35 | mike-m | heu 1 not 01 |
| 05:27.43 | dbernar1 | 1 mino-resolved. So then it will work on my sarge, the sid package with no bugs? |
| 05:27.48 | deadcat | chealer: thanks works (= |
| 05:27.52 | chealer | deadcat: oh... bash_completion? |
| 05:28.04 | exobyte | modem question- is Data Terminal Ready set by default? Setting the override on with the dip switch make the modem not hang for 45 sec before dialing |
| 05:28.24 | recall | dbernar1, well, you can't say that with total confidence, but it does have a greater chance of working |
| 05:28.37 | jazzanova | is it possible to raw-copy data from a smaller partition to a larger one ? |
| 05:29.06 | deadcat | chealer: ya. but i dont know why i typed the 2 in there. maybe i copied the line and missed the libapche-mod-php5 |
| 05:29.07 | recall | apt-listbugs also integrates into the apt utilities, so whenever you install a package, the BTS is checked |
| 05:29.09 | dbernar1 | recall: error...Reading extended state information |
| 05:29.13 | dbernar1 | bah |
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| 05:30.09 | dbernar1 | recall: second try...The following packages have unmet dependencies:gimp-print: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but 1.8.0-4 is installed.Depends: libgutenprintui2-1 (>= 4.3.99+cvs20050715) but it is not installable ---this means I have to force those versions right? |
| 05:30.35 | mike-m | nevermind, $TERM shows me xterm, and not bash :/ |
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| 05:31.13 | chealer | deadcat: cool, I never tried bash_completion yet. is it turned on by default now? |
| 05:31.19 | dbernar1 | $SHELL=/bin/bash |
| 05:31.22 | recall | dbernar1, that's where a mixed system gets tricky. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version |
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| 05:31.25 | mike-m | arf :p ! |
| 05:31.42 | deadcat | chealer: no. i have it souced in .bashrc |
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| 05:32.32 | deadcat | squirrelmail wants apache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork libapache2-mod-php4 libzzip-0-12 php4-common squirrelmail-locales |
| 05:32.34 | chealer | deadcat: ah, ok |
| 05:32.36 | deadcat | )= |
| 05:32.57 | dbernar1 | whatever, Ill just install, and see if it breaks...what do you do once it breaks something? |
| 05:33.06 | cplx | mwilson: yeah.. I do |
| 05:33.16 | vick | i am sick of x-window-system |
| 05:33.25 | vick | and these shadow i am getting |
| 05:33.46 | cplx | how dI check if its in the wheel group? |
| 05:34.18 | dbernar1 | oh, wow, its installing... |
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| 05:35.45 | vick | Fedora and Debian use the same X window system ? |
| 05:36.20 | vick | With Fedora i didn't have to do that all, X windows never gave me simmiliar errors |
| 05:36.23 | ke6isf | vick: Did you have a better option in mind? |
| 05:36.41 | vick | better option than what ? |
| 05:36.45 | chealer | !x windows |
| 05:36.45 | dpkg | It's X dammit!, or ask me about x windows trap. A) The X Window System. B) X |
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| 05:37.03 | dbernar1 | well, I installed gimp-print and no printers seem to have been added to my pruinter add utility...too bad, well, I may have to call it a try...I can still print from another distro, and from windows...: - / |
| 05:37.53 | chealer | vick: Fedora uses X.Org, which is basically newer than XFree86 |
| 05:37.58 | dbernar1 | how would I restart cups? |
| 05:38.11 | vick | chealer: is that available in debian ? |
| 05:38.25 | chealer | dbernar1: try /etc/init.d/cupsys |
| 05:38.30 | chealer | vick: only in sid |
| 05:38.40 | vick | Debian 3.1 ? |
| 05:38.43 | litage | apart from HP and Dell, what other manufacturers sell rack-mountable servers? |
| 05:38.50 | saboteur | ibm |
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| 05:39.05 | ke6isf | litage: eracks, ibm. I think Penguin sels them too. |
| 05:39.06 | chealer | vick: no. sid is unstable |
| 05:39.13 | chealer | !tell vick about releases |
| 05:39.18 | litage | thanks |
| 05:39.24 | deadcat | chealer: woohoo. nothing seem to be broken on my webpage from migrating to php5 |
| 05:39.34 | saboteur | we use ibm |
| 05:39.56 | chealer | deadcat: don't worry, I'm sure you'll pay for using sid sooner or later ;) |
| 05:40.14 | dbernar1 | ya, that works. Anyhow, epson sucks my ballz right about now, sorry about the language:) |
| 05:40.18 | vick | chealer: sid is not in the list ? |
| 05:40.36 | mike-m | sid IS sid |
| 05:40.37 | mike-m | :p |
| 05:40.41 | vick | Debian as a system is more decent than Fedora. |
| 05:40.48 | vick | but i am just having too much trouble with it. |
| 05:41.03 | vick | first the apt-get problem, now the X problem :( |
| 05:41.04 | mike-m | sid aka still in development |
| 05:41.05 | ke6isf | vick: OK, what are the symptoms? |
| 05:41.08 | chealer | vick: indeed. you'd need to check the link to find about sid |
| 05:41.12 | chealer | !tell vick about sid |
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| 05:41.35 | deadcat | chealer: hahah. |
| 05:41.46 | vick | what's funny ? |
| 05:41.58 | deadcat | vick: sid breaking on me.. inevitable |
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| 05:42.30 | vick | lol |
| 05:43.08 | recall | ok, I think i'm more lost than ever in trying to face my fonts....defoma, x-ttcidfont-conf, Xft, fontconfig, freetype *explodes* |
| 05:44.33 | mage | defoma-user update fixed my fonts for bittorrent :) |
| 05:44.39 | vick | chealer: Do you mind if i talk to you in private ? |
| 05:44.45 | chealer | vick: about what? |
| 05:44.53 | vick | my problem. |
| 05:44.55 | recall | does anyone have tips? the links dpkg recommends didn't do the trick, as several mini-howtos have failed also |
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| 05:45.44 | mage | hey can I tell synaptic to only look at one repository at a time so I can check for updates in stable while I have unstable in my repositories? |
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| 05:46.06 | chealer | vick: unless you have a reason to believe I know better than everyone else about your problem and other people couldn't benefit from the conversation, ask in the channel |
| 05:46.19 | dbernar1 | mage, in fact I just did that a moment ago. |
| 05:46.39 | dbernar1 | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version mage |
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| 05:47.15 | recall | i've rearranged my paths in X's config, enabled autohinting (looks worse now?), added truetype ttcidfont lines to local.conf, and...I forget. |
| 05:47.35 | exobyte | When I try to connect to the internet with my modem, the modem stalls for 45 sec (exactly), dials, then fails. Subsequent tries work |
| 05:47.38 | stouset | Anyone know how to concatenate a bunch of .wmv files? I don't mind reencoding as long as there's not much quality loss. |
| 05:47.47 | recall | oh, dpi:unscaled, set dpi to 100 as now recommended by debian |
| 05:47.58 | jm_ | stouset: /msg dpkg anyone |
| 05:48.06 | _blue | i bet this has been asked to death.... |
| 05:48.18 | _blue | but can someone point me to a guide on installing xorg on sarge |
| 05:48.31 | jm_ | you need x.org from backports.org |
| 05:48.33 | _blue | are there some unsupported working debs out there, or do i have to compile? |
| 05:49.12 | stouset | jm_: Sorry, despite what dpkg says I didn't realize that "does anyone" was grammatically incorrect. |
| 05:49.36 | jm_ | stouset: it's not about being gramatically incorrect, it's about being a stupid yes/no question |
| 05:49.50 | stouset | Actually, I was asking a yes/no question. |
| 05:50.00 | stouset | And if anyone answered yes, I would have asked them how. But thanks for playing! |
| 05:50.01 | _blue | jm_: are they usually stable enough? |
| 05:50.06 | jm_ | ok, so the answer is yes |
| 05:50.06 | recall | =) |
| 05:50.23 | stouset | Thanks, that's all I needed to know. |
| 05:50.34 | jm_ | _blue: no idea, people have generally had good experience when upgrading in sid |
| 05:50.45 | _blue | jm_: i plan on running sarge with these debs |
| 05:51.19 | _blue | any experiences on that? |
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| 05:51.57 | stouset | _blue: Watch how you phrase that question. jm_ is likely to answer, "Yes, there are experiences on that." |
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| 05:52.11 | _blue | stouset: ill just try the bloody debs |
| 05:52.18 | _blue | if it doesnt work, ill use xfree |
| 05:52.26 | stouset | _blue: That's the spirit :) |
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| 05:52.53 | _blue | stouset: i'm getting gutsy here mate, testing E17 and xorg on sarge |
| 05:52.53 | _blue | LOL |
| 05:53.03 | _blue | this is supposed to dual as a home server / dummy workstation |
| 05:53.28 | stouset | _blue: If you want to get really spontaneous, try running Fresco. |
| 05:53.46 | _blue | stouset: no thanks |
| 05:54.05 | vijayendra | hi all |
| 05:54.06 | _blue | ;) |
| 05:54.16 | _blue | ill be back here often after i install sarge |
| 05:54.20 | stouset | Suit yourself. |
| 05:54.25 | stouset | _blue: Quick question. |
| 05:54.31 | _blue | stouset: shoot |
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| 05:54.35 | stouset | Why go through all this trouble for sarge, if it's just a home dummy machine. |
| 05:54.46 | _blue | stouset: like i said, never used a debian based distro before |
| 05:54.46 | stouset | Howdy, overfiend. |
| 05:54.53 | vick | If i am using vmware (vmware workstation 5) on Debian 3.1 Stable, in configuration of X i go for the driver of vmware or the driver of my actual physical vga card which is nvidia geforce FX 5200 ultra ? |
| 05:54.55 | ke6isf | !debian based |
| 05:54.55 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 05:55.01 | _blue | this is gonna be a server box... |
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| 05:55.09 | _blue | but it needs to run xorg and dual as a workstation when necessary |
| 05:55.09 | stouset | _blue: Okay, that works. Stable would probably be the best idea for you, then. |
| 05:55.29 | _blue | so since debian is known to be stable, even when you throw experimental stuff in there |
| 05:55.35 | _blue | it was the natural choice.... |
| 05:55.49 | mage | my serverbox almost became unstable :) |
| 05:55.52 | stouset | _blue: Needs to run xorg? :) |
| 05:56.03 | _blue | stouset: like i said, needs to dual as a workstation when needed |
| 05:56.05 | recall | it's a pretty server |
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| 05:56.18 | jm_ | vick: vmware |
| 05:56.24 | stouset | _blue: Still not seeing what's wrong with xfree in that case. |
| 05:56.24 | recall | speaking of pretty, fixing fonts, anyone? =) |
| 05:56.30 | sadfgg | Is there some command to set a new document_root? I'm building a script so it would be nice |
| 05:56.37 | vick | jm_: therefor driver 'vmware' ? |
| 05:56.38 | stouset | _blue: Might be less work to just run xfree, unless you have a really compelling reason. |
| 05:56.44 | mage | recall, what'd you do to your fonts? |
| 05:56.47 | _blue | stouset: i like xorg |
| 05:56.50 | ke6isf | sadfgg: document_root in what context? |
| 05:57.02 | stouset | _blue: What about it? :) |
| 05:57.03 | recall | I tried to make them look acceptable |
| 05:57.04 | _blue | brb, gonna read some debian docs |
| 05:57.04 | mage | _blue, they split very recently, whats the difference? |
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| 05:57.18 | _blue | mage: as far as i can tell for my purposes, none at all |
| 05:57.26 | recall | it didn't really work out, i've been type-faced! |
| 05:57.28 | _blue | but i like xorg, thus i use it |
| 05:57.31 | stouset | _blue: Then once again, why go through all the trouble? :) |
| 05:57.44 | sadfgg | ke6isf, for apache, sorry |
| 05:57.46 | _blue | stouset: trouble, there are bloody debs that are usually stable enough available on backports... |
| 05:57.48 | stouset | _blue: Not trying to talk you out of it, just think you might be going through a lot of unnecessary effort for little reason. |
| 05:57.49 | _blue | why NOT!?1 |
| 05:58.06 | _blue | stouset: if i read docs and find too much effort, xfree will remain |
| 05:58.18 | benjamindees | you said you wanted a stable box, that's why not |
| 05:58.19 | ke6isf | sadfgg: in your apache conf, look for the DocumentRoot tag. |
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| 05:58.28 | KerPlunk | I have like 20 2048x1024 pictures that are a meg each...I want to proportionally make them smaller and get them to like around 100kb |
| 05:58.29 | stouset | _blue: Suit yourself. G'luck! |
| 05:58.32 | _blue | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.34 | _blue | peace |
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| 05:58.38 | ke6isf | sadfgg: If there's anything that's the same, check it before you change it - but you might want to change those as well. |
| 05:58.42 | KerPlunk | Anyone know the convert line to compress pictures and keep most of the quality? |
| 05:58.45 | vick | dpkg: vmware |
| 05:58.45 | dpkg | vmware is probably for 2.6 kernels, download the patches from ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware, read the README, or #vmware, or vmware 5.0 supports 2.6 kernels happily |
| 05:58.50 | dotCOMmie | I just pulled a harddrive out of an old machine into a new one and fdisk and cfdisk show it to be an EZ-Disk partition.. how do I mount/read this |
| 05:58.58 | vick | Does that mean i should go with a 2.6.x kernel and my problem would be solved ? |
| 05:59.23 | mage | vick, it means what it means (hey I'm fitting in here!) |
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| 05:59.42 | jm_ | vick: yes, this is explained in their documentation |
| 05:59.46 | ke6isf | vick: It means to ask in #vmware. |
| 05:59.52 | jbAU | I'm having some difficulties setting up a ADSL connection - |
| 06:00.02 | vick | ke6isf: no |
| 06:00.08 | cbr | what's the most usual make-kpkg line? with initrd? |
| 06:00.20 | ke6isf | jbAU: What are the symptoms, and what kind of ADSL (e.g., static, PPPoE...) |
| 06:00.34 | jbAU | The pppoe configuration is setup correctly and authenticates no sweat, but when I try to ping out it says the gateway is says it not permitted |
| 06:00.34 | exobyte | When I try to connect to the internet with my modem, the modem stalls for 45 sec (exactly), dials, then fails. Subsequent tries work |
| 06:00.41 | sadfgg | ke6isf, yes Directory |
| 06:00.42 | takatumi | cbr: the usual one is without --initrd :P |
| 06:00.53 | cbr | takatumi: why without? |
| 06:01.00 | jbAU | i've setup on my mac and tried it and that works fine - it's getting the correct ip address and gateway |
| 06:01.06 | ke6isf | sadfgg: You running apache2? |
| 06:01.22 | sadfgg | ke6isf, never =) |
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| 06:01.30 | sadfgg | ke6isf, 1.3.33 |
| 06:01.31 | ke6isf | sadfgg: Heh. =^^= |
| 06:01.52 | takatumi | cbr: you usually don't need one. |
| 06:01.58 | stouset | Is there a way to get wget to display only the progress bar as output? I tried -q and -nv, but neither of those did what I want (caused wget to go completely silent). If so, how? |
| 06:02.03 | ke6isf | sadfgg: May or not be able to help you then - I run 2. |
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| 06:02.13 | ke6isf | sadfgg: Is the Directory a subset of another tag? |
| 06:02.14 | cbr | takatumi: so i just type # make-pkg --initrd kernel_image? |
| 06:02.21 | sadfgg | ke6isf, ok, it's not treesafe |
| 06:02.24 | cbr | or do i need to put a name insteal of kernel_image? |
| 06:02.34 | takatumi | cbr: that'll do. |
| 06:02.51 | vick | is there a 2.6.x kernel for debian 3.1 ? |
| 06:02.53 | jbAU | ping: sendto: Operation not permitted |
| 06:02.54 | sadfgg | ke6isf, you should read the recommendation if you use it in producion |
| 06:03.01 | jbAU | vick: yes there is |
| 06:03.11 | ke6isf | sadfgg: Probably, just accustomed to it. Pointer to recommendation? |
| 06:03.14 | jbAU | vick: apt-cache search 2.6 |
| 06:04.01 | takatumi | cbr: you may need --append_to_version as well, man make_kpkg |
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| 06:04.30 | cbr | takatumi: without that how will the kernel-name be? |
| 06:04.58 | sadfgg | ke6isf, We do not recommend using a threaded MPM in production with Apache2. Use the prefork MPM instead, or use Apache1. For information on why, read the related FAQ entry on using Apache2 with a threaded MPM |
| 06:05.04 | sadfgg | ke6isf, http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php |
| 06:05.39 | sadfgg | ke6isf, switch =), wait to apache 2.1 |
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| 06:05.49 | recall | how long has the debian search engine been disabled now? |
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| 06:06.07 | ma3x | hello lads |
| 06:06.22 | gogo3or | hello I installed debian and forget add about swap partition, how can I resize partition in ease way? |
| 06:06.28 | Deb_Newbie | hey all. What are some good sources for Debian? |
| 06:06.31 | peterS | gogo3or: I recommend just using swap *files* instead |
| 06:06.32 | dabaR | hi, laddy, as warcraft 2 characters would say... |
| 06:06.38 | peterS | gogo3or: much simpler, and no messing about with resizing partitions |
| 06:06.40 | sep | gogo3or, use a swap file. it's easier, and not that much worse |
| 06:06.41 | sadfgg | ke6isf, apache 1.33.3 is has a total other architecture |
| 06:06.47 | stouset | gogo3or: Resizing a partition is not fun. Use a swap file. |
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| 06:07.07 | peterS | gogo3or: create a file of the size you want, using dd since that's easiest: dd < /dev/zero > /swap0 bs=1M size=512 |
| 06:07.14 | peterS | gogo3or: then mkswap /swap0 |
| 06:07.22 | sadfgg | ke6isf, thats why they created 2, its a begining of the fortune stable version |
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| 06:07.28 | peterS | gogo3or: then cat >> /etc/fstab "/swap0 none swap defaults 0 0" |
| 06:07.30 | peterS | gogo3or: then swapon -a |
| 06:07.34 | ke6isf | sadfgg: Gonna have to sit down soonly, as this may require a new config file. =O.o= |
| 06:07.36 | ma3x | is there TV software to watch online tv? |
| 06:07.46 | sadfgg | ke6isf, =) |
| 06:07.48 | gogo3or | peterS, ok thanks buy give me resource how to do this |
| 06:08.02 | sadfgg | ke6isf, don't you declare your'e settings =) |
| 06:08.02 | peterS | ma3x: several of them. xawtv is the original. |
| 06:08.12 | ma3x | peterS, is it free ? |
| 06:08.17 | sadfgg | ke6isf, it's quite the same in 1.3.33 |
| 06:08.21 | peterS | ma3x: well, that's for if you have a TV capture card |
| 06:08.32 | ke6isf | sadfgg: Then it will probably not be much issue. Just feeling a little lazy at the moment is all. |
| 06:08.43 | peterS | ma3x: if you mean Internet streaming video, you want totem-xine, mplayer, gxine, or something like those |
| 06:09.03 | sadfgg | ke6isf, ok, I just want you to have a stable/safe webserver up and running |
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| 06:09.19 | ke6isf | sadfgg: Appreciate it. Seems to be otherwise stable. |
| 06:09.20 | peterS | gogo3or: note, in the dd command, "bs=1M count=512" gives you half a gigabyte. adjust to suit your needs. |
| 06:09.22 | ma3x | but I meant real tv, not streams. Like watch cnn, bbc ... |
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| 06:10.03 | vick | 2.6.8.2 is the latest on debian ? |
| 06:10.06 | exobyte | how can I log everything in and out of a serial port? Maybe /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 06:10.09 | peterS | ma3x: if you have a video capture card, so that you can plug your cable TV feed into your computer, then you need to set up your card for a video4linux kernel driver |
| 06:10.10 | sadfgg | ke6isf, 2 is stable, but not secure enough, but you're webserver is prob not heavy trafficed |
| 06:10.24 | gogo3or | peterS, thanks a lot |
| 06:10.35 | sadfgg | ke6isf, do you know some Perl? |
| 06:10.42 | peterS | gogo3or: no problem |
| 06:10.43 | debSarge | How can I list all the packages installed on my debian system along with their type - stable/testing/unstable |
| 06:10.47 | sep | vick, latest on sarge you mean |
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| 06:11.02 | peterS | vick: yeah, on debian *unstable* kernel 2.6.12 is available now |
| 06:11.10 | sep | debSarge, if your mixing packages from different repos, your in big troubble |
| 06:11.15 | mwilson | debSarge: They don't have a "type". |
| 06:11.19 | vick | oh |
| 06:11.26 | vick | sid is actually kind of cool |
| 06:11.30 | ma3x | peterS, I have cable modem and router. They provide me internet. Is it possible to get it over that line or must I use a new plug (cable)? |
| 06:11.37 | sep | vick, dont run Sid unless you _realy_ know what your doing |
| 06:11.38 | sadfgg | peterS, I know you're good at C, How can I put: <?php require_once ('header'); ?> in the top of a file with Perl (if you know that as well)? |
| 06:11.46 | vick | i really don't see why should kernel 2.6.11.12 be in the unstable |
| 06:11.55 | peterS | sadfgg: I have no idea how you can mix perl and php, or even if it's possible |
| 06:11.56 | debSarge | So there is no way I can find out if I installed any unstable package by mistake? |
| 06:11.57 | ke6isf | sadfgg: Not at all, much to my chagrin. |
| 06:12.05 | ke6isf | sadfgg: As far as traffic, it's pretty marginal. |
| 06:12.16 | mwilson | debSarge: How would you do that by mistake? |
| 06:12.24 | sep | vick, it filters down to testing after some criterions are met |
| 06:12.33 | peterS | vick: a lot of people have trouble finding kernel 2.6.12 on sid because the package names have changed from kernel-* to linux-* |
| 06:12.35 | mage | php and perl are very similar, why dont you just pick one? |
| 06:12.36 | sadfgg | peterS, no, I just want to text manipulate html files and then convert them to php |
| 06:12.46 | vijayendra | hi single click on my touchpad is not working...on single click its doing past operation..any reason why? |
| 06:12.53 | sadfgg | peterS, and then I need this line at the top of each files |
| 06:13.07 | ma3x | peterS, is there wireless tv pcmcia card? |
| 06:13.08 | sadfgg | peterS, do you know how to do it with Perl? |
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| 06:13.22 | mage | sadfgg, so a perl script makes the php pages? |
| 06:13.40 | peterS | sadfgg: it's not about the source language. I think with any means of generating an HTML page, if you want the web server to process it through php, you can just output the appropriate MIME type |
| 06:13.50 | sadfgg | mage, perl writes the includers in the top, yes |
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| 06:13.58 | debSarge | I had modified sources.list and added unstable....did some stuff an then removed it. Want to check if I had installed any package during this confusion! |
| 06:14.01 | peterS | sadfgg: application/x-httpd-php4 in particular |
| 06:14.06 | peterS | sadfgg: but I'm not sure about that |
| 06:14.21 | mage | that might work with mod_php |
| 06:14.24 | Deb_Newbie | Anybody know of some good sources for apt? |
| 06:14.27 | vick | with all that checks for stable or unstable i'm having more problems than in distributions which doesn't do that |
| 06:14.36 | sadfgg | peterS, I just need the code in the top of all files, then I'm done |
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| 06:14.46 | sadfgg | mage, ? |
| 06:15.06 | debianuser | good morning anyone online that can help me with a sasl error, i get different errors with different mail clients..: this is one of them postfix/smtpd[6928]: fatal: SASL per-process initialization failed |
| 06:15.08 | peterS | sadfgg: however ... as others have noted, it's a pretty insane setup to produce pages from Perl and then process them with PHP as well. you can probably just as well pick one or the other |
| 06:15.09 | sadfgg | mage, ?php require_once ('header'); ?> is just an includer written in php |
| 06:15.40 | takatumi | Deb_Newbie: apt-setup or pick a mirror from the list at debian.org |
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| 06:15.43 | sadfgg | peterS, for file in $(find /personal/www/x/ -name "*.php"); do sed -i \ |
| 06:15.43 | sadfgg | -e '1s/.*/<?php require_once (header.inc.php); ?>\n\n&/ ; $s/.*/&\n\n<?php require_once (footer.inc.php); ?>/' \ |
| 06:15.43 | sadfgg | -e "s/(header.php)/('header.inc.php')/g" -e "s/(footer.php)/('footer.inc.php')/g" \ |
| 06:15.43 | sadfgg | "$file"; done |
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| 06:15.44 | mwilson | Deb_Newbie: "good" sources? |
| 06:15.49 | dimir | Morning. |
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| 06:16.09 | Deb_Newbie | mwilson, yea with stuff like mplayer on it and like streamtuner |
| 06:16.14 | peterS | sadfgg: don't know what you're trying to accomplish with that search/replace. it has nothing to do with perl. |
| 06:16.21 | sadfgg | peterS, http://rafb.net/paste/results/i1uFO221.html |
| 06:16.28 | mwilson | Deb_Newbie: Whatever streamtuner is supposed to be. |
| 06:16.38 | chealer | vick: there's actually no such thing as 2.6.8.2. debian's "2.6.8-2" is 2.6.8.1 |
| 06:16.45 | sadfgg | peterS, I want this operation done with Perl |
| 06:16.50 | takatumi | streamtuner is cool. |
| 06:17.03 | peterS | mwilson: dude, if you don't know what streamtuner is, clearly you can't answer his question. you could have, I dunno, just ignored it |
| 06:17.03 | Deb_Newbie | mwilson, it plays radio |
| 06:17.04 | chealer | recall: which search engine? |
| 06:17.29 | sep | debSarge, did you insall or upgrade anything while having unstable sources ? |
| 06:17.32 | peterS | sadfgg: you want to use perl instead of shell + sed, then? this has nothing to do with online access but is just a one-time search/replace deal? |
| 06:17.37 | recall | dpkg -l | awk '{print $1}' | apt-show-versions | grep unstable |
| 06:17.37 | dpkg | apt-show-versions |
| 06:17.42 | takatumi | Deb_Newbie: streamtuner is in main, /msg dpkg marillat for mplayer |
| 06:17.42 | recall | whoever was asking... |
| 06:18.02 | sadfgg | peterS, exactly |
| 06:18.04 | recall | chealer, the debian.org search engine |
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| 06:18.24 | chealer | recall: oh... |
| 06:18.44 | peterS | sadfgg: I fail to see the point. you've got a working command line, I guess. well, let me look at it for a moment |
| 06:18.47 | recall | debSarge, try the above command |
| 06:18.49 | Deb_Newbie | takatumi, ok just type in /msg dpkg marillat or type with for mplayer too? hehe I'm alittle new at this |
| 06:18.52 | debSarge | Sep: I am not sure. Did it sometime back. |
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| 06:19.08 | takatumi | !tell Deb_Newbie -about marillat |
| 06:19.18 | Deb_Newbie | takatumi, woot thanks |
| 06:19.32 | sep | debSarge, read what recall posted it will tell you f you have any unstable packages |
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| 06:20.17 | mwilson | peterS: Or he could have identified what it was. |
| 06:20.33 | debSarge | I dont have apt-show-versions on my system. Is it part of Sarge? |
| 06:20.39 | peterS | mwilson: anyone who could answer his question would already know what it was. so that seems a bit pointless |
| 06:20.41 | mwilson | peterS: No doubt you have the entire package list memorized, but I don't. |
| 06:20.53 | stouset | mwilson: Psh, slacker :) |
| 06:21.03 | recall | debSarge, it would be rather ironic if it was unstable =) |
| 06:21.13 | chealer | !tell debSarge about info apt-show-versions sarge |
| 06:21.31 | sadfgg | peterS, have you looked at it? |
| 06:22.04 | vick | does apt-get have resume in it ? |
| 06:22.11 | stouset | vick: yes |
| 06:22.26 | vick | should i specific or does it do it automaticly ? |
| 06:22.31 | stouset | vick: Automatically. |
| 06:22.39 | vick | Can i exit with cltr+c ? |
| 06:22.43 | stouset | vick: Yes. |
| 06:22.43 | peterS | sadfgg: I can't think of any way to do it in perl that's less trouble than what you already have |
| 06:22.44 | vick | or is there a better way ? |
| 06:22.53 | stouset | vick: You know, every one of those questions you could have answered by just trying it =P |
| 06:22.59 | sep | vick, cant you just let it run and use another console ? |
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| 06:23.06 | sadfgg | peterS, http://sial.org/howto/perl/one-liner/ |
| 06:23.10 | vick | what ? |
| 06:23.25 | vick | stouset: no if i lost the download and figured out there was no resume |
| 06:23.28 | sadfgg | peterS, Search for: Add a line to a file, there I think I have it |
| 06:23.33 | vick | stouset: that would be :( |
| 06:23.38 | sadfgg | peterS, thank you anyway |
| 06:23.54 | stouset | vick: Fair enough. Like sep said, though, why not just use another term? |
| 06:23.56 | Deb_Newbie | thanks for help guys brb |
| 06:23.58 | vick | stouset: do you know of a better cleaner way to exit from apt-get during download other than cltr+c ? |
| 06:24.15 | stouset | vick: Ctrl+C works fine. |
| 06:24.18 | mwilson | vick: There needs to be a better way? |
| 06:24.51 | sep | vick, the cleanest way is ofcouse to let it finish |
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| 06:25.12 | peterS | sadfgg: oh, adding a line to a file is easy enough. incorporating the find statement is the interesting part, and open-coding the -i |
| 06:25.18 | stouset | vick: All Ctrl+C does is send a signal to the process. The process is responsible for terminating cleanly and dying once it receives the signal, and apt has a signal handler that cancels the download and terminates. |
| 06:25.29 | sadfgg | peterS, echo "test" | perl -i -ple 'print q{#!/usr/bin/perl} if $. == 1; close ARGV if eof' |
| 06:25.34 | peterS | sadfgg: you can't use -i unless you want to stick to an external find command |
| 06:25.38 | sadfgg | peterS, that is what I was after |
| 06:25.50 | arg` | i was trying to install an independant package called chksfv but its not working. how do i do a make etc. |
| 06:26.17 | peterS | sadfgg: and open-coding -i is *really* *really* annoying, believe you me. File::Find is a bit annoying until you get used to it, but not bad then |
| 06:27.09 | sadfgg | peterS, how would that look with File::find ? I have never used :: |
| 06:27.21 | sadfgg | peterS, it's modules right? |
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| 06:27.41 | peterS | sadfgg: one thing I'd suggest in your sed command is, instead of 1s/.*/<?php require_once (header.inc.php); ?>\n\n&/, I would use 1s/^/<?php require_once (header.inc.php); ?>\n\n/ |
| 06:27.47 | debianuser | good morning anyone online that can help me with a sasl error, i get different errors with different mail clients..: this is one of them postfix/smtpd[6928]: fatal: SASL per-process initialization failed |
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| 06:28.26 | sadfgg | peterS, sed is history for me =) |
| 06:28.42 | peterS | sadfgg: File::Find looks like this: perl -MFile::Find -e 'find(sub { ... }, ".")' iirc |
| 06:28.47 | Sazpaimon_ | Guys |
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| 06:28.52 | sadfgg | peterS, I'm about to convert all sed codes to Perl, i'm soon done with it |
| 06:28.59 | Sazpaimon_ | how do I apt-get ProFTPd with Mysql support? |
| 06:29.38 | peterS | sadfgg: shrug, it's your time. I do believe you should be asking all this in #perl, not here, though. I note that you're in that channel so you don't have the excuse of just not knowing about it |
| 06:30.07 | yumeng | Sazpaimon_: aptitude install proftpd-mysql |
| 06:30.15 | arg` | peterS how do i configure and make a package that i untarred from a .gz ? |
| 06:30.30 | peterS | arg`: follow the instructions |
| 06:30.31 | sadfgg | peterS, well, back to #perl then |
| 06:30.33 | Sazpaimon_ | aptitude? |
| 06:30.36 | debSarge | Is apt-show-versions part of unstable only? |
| 06:30.36 | Sazpaimon_ | alias for apt-get? |
| 06:30.43 | sadfgg | peterS, thank you for taking your time |
| 06:31.02 | peterS | Sazpaimon_: not an alias, a different program that does lots of interesting things. it happens to feature a subset of the apt-get UI |
| 06:31.32 | jm_ | he doesn't even have to use s command, i will do the job |
| 06:32.03 | recall | debSarge, no. all releases |
| 06:33.36 | debSarge | So do I need to upgrade apt to be able to run the command. Currently I am unable to run it |
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| 06:34.26 | recall | apt-get install apt-show-versions ? |
| 06:34.36 | dabaR | !do I have java installed on my computer? |
| 06:34.44 | dabaR | haha |
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| 06:34.52 | dabaR | sorry, thought it was kinda funny. |
| 06:35.17 | recall | may have worked better without do I =) |
| 06:35.17 | peterS | !do dabaR's mom |
| 06:35.21 | dabaR | ahha |
| 06:35.59 | dabaR | lol... |
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| 06:36.52 | dabaR | haha |
| 06:37.09 | ClemM | Hi guys what's up? |
| 06:37.19 | ke6isf | ClemM: Up is what you are directly beneath. |
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| 06:37.27 | dimir | hey hey, nothing, I guess. |
| 06:37.28 | ClemM | Funny guy |
| 06:37.31 | dimir | :-) |
| 06:37.32 | ClemM | :P |
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| 06:37.38 | dimir | :-) |
| 06:37.40 | mla | Hi |
| 06:37.53 | dabaR | please refrain from making me laugh. |
| 06:37.54 | mla | I have a big problem with an upgrade in sid |
| 06:37.58 | ke6isf | !up |
| 06:37.58 | dpkg | the *ceiling* moron, or a direction directly opposing the pull of gravity |
| 06:38.06 | ClemM | lol |
| 06:38.11 | jm_ | mla: so perhaps you should not use sid |
| 06:38.17 | mla | I need a kernel-image-2.6.12 |
| 06:38.30 | ClemM | for what/ |
| 06:38.34 | mla | jm_: yes, but I use sid for 4 years |
| 06:38.37 | mla | udev |
| 06:38.40 | jm_ | mla: it doesn |
| 06:38.52 | jm_ | 't look like that has been long enough for you to be able to solve problems on your own |
| 06:38.52 | mla | I have a problem with udev since several weeks |
| 06:39.02 | jm_ | kernel-images have been renamed in sid |
| 06:39.11 | ClemM | what is sid? |
| 06:39.22 | mla | renamed ? |
| 06:39.24 | ke6isf | !sid |
| 06:39.24 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
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| 06:39.52 | ClemM | I see. |
| 06:40.02 | recall | hm, toy story goes back farther than Debian? |
| 06:40.26 | paivaki1 | so, sid != unstable?? |
| 06:40.33 | ClemM | aparently |
| 06:40.36 | dimir | mla: 2.6.12? I don't see it |
| 06:40.38 | ke6isf | paivaki1: No, sid = unstable. |
| 06:40.41 | dabaR | This packages lives in |
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| 06:41.03 | mla | ok thanks |
| 06:41.08 | mla | I see the rename |
| 06:41.28 | dabaR | sorry. 'contrib', so make sure you have that in your sources.list. I add eb http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ stable contrib and I get errors on update. |
| 06:41.39 | dabaR | deb, rather. |
| 06:41.46 | dimir | linux-image? whatta |
| 06:42.00 | dabaR | ke6isf: no, sid == unstable;) |
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| 06:42.27 | ClemM | Hey guys i have a question.. What would you install on a 3gb hard drive on a pentium 1... I have mandrake on it but it sucks mouse wont work.. graphic card problems any suggestions? |
| 06:42.37 | paivaki1 | ke6isf: so why did dpkg say ``Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless...'' etc? |
| 06:42.51 | kernelvn | d |
| 06:42.54 | debSarge | Thanks sep, Recall, Chealer and mwilson for your help. I dont have any package from Unstable installed on my Sarge :) |
| 06:42.55 | streuner | ClemM: so what do you expect here? |
| 06:43.04 | ClemM | debian |
| 06:43.05 | ClemM | :P |
| 06:43.11 | recall | debSarge, no problem =) |
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| 06:43.14 | Guerin | ClemM: try it and see |
| 06:43.28 | cbr | is the amd64 port for debian usable? |
| 06:43.44 | deadcat | cbr: sure. |
| 06:43.52 | deadcat | debian.org |
| 06:43.58 | sep | cbr, it's just like any other port of debian |
| 06:44.09 | paivaki1 | cbr I am using amd64; trt #debian-amd64 |
| 06:44.18 | paivaki1 | s/trt/try |
| 06:44.24 | cbr | paivaki1: does it have less packages than 386? |
| 06:44.36 | dimir | dabaR: just tried 'deb http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ stable contrib' worked for me, do you have connection problems, or check the line. |
| 06:44.41 | ke6isf | dabaR: I thought my syntax was wrong. |
| 06:44.46 | paivaki1 | yes - i386 specific packages are not there |
| 06:44.53 | dabaR | I screwed it up, thanks, dimir. |
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| 06:45.04 | ke6isf | paivaki1: I suspect dpkg is telling you to ask for more details. |
| 06:45.06 | dabaR | ke6isf: I dont get your sentence, I think it was too. |
| 06:45.07 | dimir | dabaR: OK |
| 06:45.20 | cbr | paivaki1: does flash work in webpages? |
| 06:45.40 | paivaki1 | i always disable flash |
| 06:45.44 | ke6isf | dabaR: s/thought/suspected/ |
| 06:46.02 | dabaR | ya, I kinda suspected that to be what you meant. |
| 06:46.14 | dabaR | anyhow, java installs.......I should just do it manually... |
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| 06:52.17 | Guerin | why linux-image? what was wrong with kernel-image? |
| 06:52.29 | Guerin | i mean, linux-image IS more correct, but still... |
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| 06:54.01 | benjamindees | multiple kernels |
| 06:54.24 | peterS | Guerin: there's the hurd and freebsd and some crazed group even wants netbsd |
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| 06:55.04 | Guerin | peterS: indeed there is |
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| 06:55.23 | peterS | Guerin: even heard of debian + opensolaris, which makes the netbsd people sound sane, but anyway. |
| 06:56.20 | nagual_ | how do you make an at signh on a german layout keyboard? |
| 06:57.00 | kon_ | alt+64 |
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| 07:05.32 | coywolf | how to dump screen? |
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| 07:06.17 | dimir | oh my, never take a dump on the screen! |
| 07:06.22 | dimir | :-) |
| 07:06.27 | dimir | sorry, what do you mean, what screen? |
| 07:06.50 | mike-m | screendump .. or man screen, sorry man, I don't know |
| 07:07.34 | dimir | oh, the terminal emulator |
| 07:07.43 | mike-m | I think so |
| 07:07.45 | coywolf | i mena in X |
| 07:07.49 | coywolf | mean in X |
| 07:07.57 | dondelelcaro | !tell coywolf about screenshot |
| 07:08.15 | dimir | lol |
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| 07:09.11 | ztrajp | A new day with a new problem, when i mount.cifs an win2k3 share eg. /home, all dir owned by root, i there a way to make every dir owned by the user ? |
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| 07:09.47 | dimir | ztrajp: I think you will need to set it in /etc/exports |
| 07:09.50 | mike-m | coywolf: with convert, use import |
| 07:09.54 | mike-m | import --help |
| 07:10.14 | dimir | oops, this was not the nfs mount |
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| 07:10.21 | mike-m | heu non, not convert, imagemagick |
| 07:11.44 | dimir | ztrajp: anyway, I think it's configured on the w2k cifs server side. |
| 07:11.58 | dimir | not the client side |
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| 07:12.43 | coywolf | how to get the window id? mike-m |
| 07:13.19 | mike-m | import -window root root.jpeg |
| 07:13.32 | mike-m | or just import root.jpeg and click the window |
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| 07:13.50 | mike-m | you can specify the extension, for instance png |
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| 07:14.00 | mike-m | man import |
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| 07:18.36 | sep | ztrajp, use uid and gid when mounting, but mounting home as cifs.. sounds scary to me. |
| 07:19.03 | sep | ztrajp, i would rather mount /home/username if you _have_ to |
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| 07:21.19 | debianuser | good morning anyone online that can help me with a sasl error, i get different errors with different mail clients..: this is one of them postfix/smtpd[6928]: fatal: SASL per-process initialization failed |
| 07:21.21 | gusar612 | Hello! Got a problem with my network. I have a client that is connected to internet via a router. The client can ping, telnet addresses outside of the network but it cant reach any of my apt sources. I have the same apt sources on my client as on my router so i know that they work. Any ideas why apt wont work on my client? |
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| 07:22.30 | ztrajp | sep, the problem is that win2003's share is \home and you can not mount eg. \home\testuser in the case every user hase to be an share on the w2k3. |
| 07:22.41 | sep | gusar612, can you resolve hostnames ? |
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| 07:23.19 | litage | how does one select low- to high-end production server hardware from the main vendors (HP, IBM, Dell, etc)? |
| 07:23.47 | gusar612 | doesnt seem like it sep =( |
| 07:23.51 | gusar612 | That must be why |
| 07:23.52 | sep | litage, + intel |
| 07:24.13 | sep | gusar612, check /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 07:25.49 | sep | gusar612, are you female ? |
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| 07:26.27 | litage | sep: any suggestions on how to select hardware/hardware series? (eg: IBM xSeries, etc..) |
| 07:26.54 | sep | litage, idnetify you r needs. compare to the hardware. verify compatibility to linux before buying ? |
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| 07:27.33 | sep | litage, your asking a very vauge question you know |
| 07:27.40 | litage | sep: true |
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| 07:28.07 | gusar612 | no sep =P... ill slap your back then instead! (better? =) |
| 07:28.28 | sep | gusar612, yes better :) |
| 07:28.32 | sep | <- scared ! |
| 07:28.39 | gusar612 | got so carried away there =) |
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| 07:28.53 | litage | sep: i've gone through the main vendors' websites, it's very difficult to decide which line of hardware you need |
| 07:29.01 | gusar612 | well.. get another problem now tho =P |
| 07:29.12 | gusar612 | It stops half way through apt-get update |
| 07:29.25 | gusar612 | even tho i got exactly the same sources.list file on my router |
| 07:29.30 | gusar612 | and that one wont stop half way through |
| 07:29.37 | sep | litage, you must identify your needs first. then go look for hardware that matches, if you start looking at hardware you'r just window shopping |
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| 07:30.08 | sep | litage, perhaps nice when your female looking for clothes... but not good when you'r planing on investing on a multi $$$$ server |
| 07:30.48 | sep | gusar612, it never just stops. it puts out an error i assume |
| 07:30.58 | gusar612 | no it just stops |
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| 07:31.23 | litage | sep: i know what i need, but i don't know what the difference is between an HP ProLiant, Integrity, Integrity NonStop, etc server is |
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| 07:31.34 | gusar612 | every time i try it it stops in some kind of %.. this time it was 33% and it says "connecting to ...." |
| 07:31.35 | litage | they just have useless little blurbs such as: "Industry standard servers optimised for Windows®, Linux®, and Netware® environments" |
| 07:31.35 | sep | gusar612, no it dosn't , it either hangs waithing on nameresolution or tcp timeouts or does it return to command promt |
| 07:31.52 | gusar612 | ok it doesnt return to command prompt |
| 07:32.05 | gusar612 | what log do i check for errors? |
| 07:32.16 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how I can make a anonymous link to my email... I mean instead of emailing me directly it goes through a dummy email address? |
| 07:32.28 | benjamindees | litage, mostly markup |
| 07:32.34 | sep | gusar612, wait see if it posts an error after a few miutes |
| 07:32.34 | peterS | TwistedEmotions: google for anonymous remailer |
| 07:32.36 | litage | benjamindees: ? |
| 07:32.39 | gusar612 | ok |
| 07:32.50 | benjamindees | litage, that's usually the difference |
| 07:32.51 | peterS | TwistedEmotions: or mail anonymizing service |
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| 07:33.00 | gusar612 | ok sep it gave me "time out" now |
| 07:33.36 | litage | benjamindees: so what do you suggest? |
| 07:33.50 | TwistedEmotions | peterS: thanks. |
| 07:33.56 | sep | gusar612, and it stopped right in middle of a download ? then i'd verify your connection, if it stopped inbetween 2 sources i'd verify typos in sources list |
| 07:34.15 | benjamindees | litage, like sep said, depends on what you want |
| 07:34.16 | gusar612 | the two machines got the same connection (UMLs) |
| 07:34.28 | gusar612 | going to check for typos once again |
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| 07:35.12 | benjamindees | litage, verifiable linux support of course is the most important feature |
| 07:35.23 | litage | aye |
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| 07:35.33 | sep | litage, you better dig deeper then the marketing speak, if you want to identify the real differences. it's often down to how tight you can pack things. and how redundant things are. |
| 07:35.44 | litage | though no linux support is given unless you use rhel or suse or some other yuck |
| 07:35.48 | rixth | I just tried Windows Vista. Ick! |
| 07:36.13 | litage | sep: right, but there are no comparisons and data like that available on the vendors' sites |
| 07:36.15 | rixth | It seems all it's about is fading windows, when you open one, it zooms up into view, I hate that crap. |
| 07:36.22 | Gumby | did you really expect anything non ick? |
| 07:36.26 | rixth | They still have the 'Windows Classic' theme though :) |
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| 07:36.43 | sep | litage, search for downloads and get the manuals then |
| 07:36.59 | rixth | Gumby, not really no, but I expected better than what was on offer. |
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| 07:38.43 | gusar612 | sep: No typos in the sources.list file now. I coppied it from the router. I get the same error every time. |
| 07:38.48 | gusar612 | Stops at 31% |
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| 07:38.56 | gusar612 | and connection times out |
| 07:40.23 | gusar612 | I just saw something. Its when it tries to use ftp source that it stops. |
| 07:40.25 | litage | btw, is there anything special to know about buying a rack/rack cabinet? |
| 07:41.24 | peterS | litage: not really. make sure it's solid construction, and if some of your equipment has rack arms that need to secure to both front and back, pay attention to the depth range your arms allow |
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| 07:41.43 | Deb_Newbie | woot I got my mplayer working :) |
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| 07:42.20 | peterS | litage: features would be locking doors, removable side panels for easier access to cables, built-in power, casters |
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| 07:42.31 | Gumby | Deb_Newbie: now get mplayer plugin working |
| 07:42.32 | Gumby | hehe |
| 07:42.50 | peterS | litage: though last time I cared I added my own casters to a rack, that worked fine. I highly recommend having casters, one way or another |
| 07:42.56 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, well I installed mozplugger. And that seems to work well |
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| 07:43.10 | sep | gusar612, check firewall's perhaps one uses passive other active. |
| 07:43.23 | sep | gusar612, perhaps one goes thru nat the other not |
| 07:43.38 | gusar612 | humm... ok |
| 07:44.15 | sep | gusar612, i guess the router nats , so your router have real ip, no worry for ftp. but the internal clients might have issues |
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| 07:44.44 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, hehe nvm I see it won't play ifilm stuff :( |
| 07:44.55 | sep | gusar612, what firewall you run on that ruter. and do you use the ipconntrack ftp moules ? |
| 07:45.05 | Gumby | do you have w32codecs installed? |
| 07:45.23 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, yep just did that. I can play movies on ebaumsworld |
| 07:45.39 | litage | thanks peterS |
| 07:45.50 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, so what's the best way to install mplayerplug-in? |
| 07:46.09 | sep | litage, for rack that you have the depth needed and that there are rails in both ends. i actualy got a rack cabinet once where the rear rails was optionals |
| 07:46.23 | Gumby | Deb_Newbie: Mine didnt compile properly. But then I realized it was working. |
| 07:46.26 | sep | litage, try mount a 20kg server with only front rails... |
| 07:46.33 | Gumby | so I am not sure what I installed to get it working. |
| 07:46.33 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, lol |
| 07:46.41 | Gumby | but it was a debian package |
| 07:46.42 | Gumby | lol |
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| 07:46.49 | Gumby | I dont think official thouigh |
| 07:47.02 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, do you remember where you got it? |
| 07:47.24 | litage | sep: don't rails go on the sides of servers?? |
| 07:47.26 | Gumby | Deb_Newbie: maybe mozilla mplayer |
| 07:47.40 | Gumby | mozilla-mplayer |
| 07:47.47 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, k let me check |
| 07:47.53 | Gumby | if you have the mplayer source setup I think its there |
| 07:47.57 | sep | litage, hmm your right. the things the rails are fastened too... dont remember the english word |
| 07:48.09 | Gumby | ftp.nerim.net |
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| 07:51.14 | litage | sep: doesn't the depth depend on the rack-mountable servers that you're going to install into the rack? |
| 07:51.31 | litage | sep: or is that backwards? ie: i should buy a cabinet and then choose servers that fit in it? |
| 07:51.35 | febo | Hi all, I have problems installing sarge on my SATA disk ( notebook). Do you think would be possible to install directly on Sata ? |
| 07:51.53 | gusar612 | sep: my router uses quagga |
| 07:52.04 | sep | litage, depends,. if you know what you are going to have then it's easy. but it you need a cabinet where things get added every year.. |
| 07:52.36 | gusar612 | and im not aware of any firewall installed |
| 07:52.37 | sep | gusar612, you have real ip's on all interfaces of the router ? |
| 07:52.42 | gusar612 | yes |
| 07:52.48 | sep | gusar612, ahh |
| 07:52.48 | litage | sep: we " need a cabinet where things get added every year.." |
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| 07:53.30 | sep | litage, just get something so deep you can pick and choose when you buy servers. having to small a cabinet is a royal pain in the ass |
| 07:53.50 | sep | and having servers stick out 20 cm's is realy not profesional looking :P |
| 07:54.02 | litage | hahah |
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| 07:54.10 | litage | sep: are there several standard depths? |
| 07:54.30 | sep | 60 -80 -100 -120 are the most common |
| 07:54.47 | sep | but 60 is just a big kabeling cabinet imho |
| 07:54.59 | sep | get 2meters should fit most stuff :)) |
| 07:55.31 | gusar612 | sep: how can it be that http sources works when ftp doesnt? |
| 07:55.34 | litage | 2 meters deep?? |
| 07:55.42 | litage | that's deeper than i am tall! |
| 07:57.00 | Phated | Definitely fit most things then, eh. |
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| 07:57.10 | sep | gusar612, use only http sources nad try |
| 07:57.20 | gusar612 | yes that works sep |
| 07:57.23 | litage | aren't most rack-mounted servers only at most 1 meter deep? |
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| 07:57.32 | sep | gusar612, well.. |
| 07:57.49 | gusar612 | so it must be something blocking ftp connections in my router? |
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| 07:57.51 | sep | litage, most |
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| 07:58.26 | X2 | hi, im just wondering if ftp.au.debian.org is working properly. There hasn't been any software package upgrades in 2 weeks. is this right? |
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| 07:58.35 | joosep | Can anyone help me configure authbind? |
| 07:58.42 | joosep | I need to give access to port 113 |
| 07:59.02 | joosep | But I don't wan't to run the programs as root... |
| 07:59.05 | litage | sep: what sorts of rack-mounted servers are more than 1m deep? |
| 07:59.30 | sep | litage, big ones ? |
| 07:59.39 | litage | hahah |
| 07:59.47 | joosep | I read the man pages, created the file 113 to /etc/authbind/byport and made it executable, but still no luck |
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| 08:01.06 | htedrom | happy birthday to me |
| 08:01.19 | htedrom | happy birthday happy birthday happy birthday to me |
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| 08:01.54 | Deb_Newbie | Gumby, hehe found a pkg off http://fatboy.umng.edu.co/debian/pool/contrib/m/mplayerplug-in/ |
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| 08:02.04 | sep | htedrom, congrats! :P |
| 08:02.11 | X2 | celebrating it a bit late |
| 08:02.13 | X2 | lol |
| 08:02.16 | sep | have cake! |
| 08:02.22 | X2 | and beer ! |
| 08:02.39 | gusar612 | late? |
| 08:02.42 | gusar612 | Its early |
| 08:02.50 | htedrom | thanks guys |
| 08:02.52 | X2 | what time there? |
| 08:02.57 | gusar612 | 10 am |
| 08:03.01 | htedrom | it's 1:00am here |
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| 08:03.06 | Nwallins | 4am, 40oz still kinda heavy |
| 08:03.24 | X2 | htedrom: you compute's clock is wrong then |
| 08:03.41 | htedrom | oh? |
| 08:03.48 | X2 | -htedrom- TIME Wed Aug 3 13:01:40 2005 |
| 08:03.53 | X2 | lol |
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| 08:04.07 | htedrom | shit it's a day off |
| 08:04.18 | htedrom | too |
| 08:04.31 | htedrom | lol fuck it |
| 08:04.34 | htedrom | i'm gonna go start drinking |
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| 08:05.35 | tarzeau | does the debian-installer over network work for nvidia forcedeth? |
| 08:06.25 | EvilSporkMan | how do i get sed to eliminate a line entirely, including the newline? |
| 08:06.57 | tarzeau | EvilSporkMan: 1d ? |
| 08:07.02 | tarzeau | EvilSporkMan: deletes the first line |
| 08:09.44 | EvilSporkMan | tarzeau: guess it's time to rtfm...the only sed command is s as far as i'm concerned |
| 08:09.45 | s_ward | EvilSporkMan, #sed might be a better place to ask |
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| 08:10.32 | tarzeau | EvilSporkMan: you're wrong |
| 08:10.38 | EvilSporkMan | tarzeau: i know =) |
| 08:10.45 | EvilSporkMan | thanks for the help, i've got it now |
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| 08:12.09 | debianuser | where can i report an abuse (sshd and other port attacks from the same ip) ? |
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| 08:13.04 | Grant85 | Does some one know what this means? chage: can't open shadow password fileadduser: `/usr/bin/chage -M 99999 postfix' returned error code 1. Aborting. |
| 08:13.09 | s_ward | debianuser, to abuse@<user's ISP> |
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| 08:13.29 | debianuser | i can't find out the isp... it's not listed on ripe.net |
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| 08:14.06 | streuner | debianuser: your own ISP? :-P |
| 08:14.10 | paivaki1 | debianuser: whois -H <ipaddress> |
| 08:14.27 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to get your website listed with yahoo or google? |
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| 08:16.35 | Grant85 | Can anyone help me? |
| 08:16.47 | TwistedEmotions | !tell Grant85 about ask |
| 08:17.04 | Grant85 | Does some one know what this means? chage: can't open shadow password fileadduser: `/usr/bin/chage -M 99999 postfix' returned error code 1. Aborting. |
| 08:17.07 | Grant85 | :) |
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| 08:17.32 | cartel_ | hey all |
| 08:17.40 | Grant85 | TwistedEmotions, i recieve that error when installing postfix |
| 08:17.44 | cartel_ | can anyone tell me a prog for splitting a large file into several chunks? |
| 08:17.45 | cartel_ | that is fast? |
| 08:18.08 | sep | cartel_, split |
| 08:18.13 | streuner | !info split |
| 08:18.13 | debianuser | anyone here with some sasl/postfix experience |
| 08:18.22 | streuner | dpkg, find split |
| 08:18.24 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'split' (3): cl-split-sequence ;; splitvt ;; wavsplit. |
| 08:18.27 | TwistedEmotions | debianuser: some postfix here.. |
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| 08:18.43 | Grant85 | lol @ TwistedEmotions, i just gave you a postfix qustion :( |
| 08:18.45 | nkuttler | Grant85: is that stable? |
| 08:18.46 | sep | debianuser, youv asked 3 times already eiter your question it to vauge or non knows. try #postfix |
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| 08:19.14 | TwistedEmotions | Grant85: haha true. Err... Your trying to install and apt gives you that error? |
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| 08:19.31 | streuner | knusper:/home/user# dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man1/split.1.gz |
| 08:19.31 | streuner | coreutils: /usr/share/man/man1/split.1.gz |
| 08:19.36 | cartel_ | cartel, thanks! |
| 08:19.42 | cartel_ | er |
| 08:19.45 | cartel_ | >_< |
| 08:19.48 | cartel_ | sep, thanks! |
| 08:20.14 | Grant85 | TwistedEmotions, yep apt-get gives me that error |
| 08:20.18 | elirips | hello people. can i somehow make X execute a script when a certain key-combination is pressed (like alt+5 or something similar)? i am using sarge, with kde 3.3.2, xfree86 4.3, kernel 2.6.11.9. |
| 08:20.31 | Grant85 | nkuttler, im running sarge |
| 08:20.36 | liable | elirips: xmodmap, xbindkeys |
| 08:20.40 | s_ward | elirips, look in KDE control center |
| 08:20.44 | TwistedEmotions | Grant85: sorry bud... dont know ;( |
| 08:20.51 | Grant85 | lol |
| 08:20.55 | Grant85 | bugger |
| 08:20.57 | elirips | liable: thanks. |
| 08:21.14 | elirips | s_ward: you think there is an option in the kde control center? i did not find anything, do you know where to find it? |
| 08:21.16 | nkuttler | Grant85: is it the postinst script failing? or is that the only error? |
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| 08:21.59 | gogo3or | show to change size of font of Non-Kde apps in KDE I have too small fonts |
| 08:22.03 | joosep | anyone know when kdelibs4-dev will be installable in unstable' |
| 08:22.13 | nkuttler | what is chage supposed to be anyhow... |
| 08:22.16 | joosep | can't compile any kde apps |
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| 08:22.35 | Grant85 | nkuttler, postinst script failing. |
| 08:22.44 | Grant85 | nkuttler join flood quickly unless i can paste 4 lines here? |
| 08:22.50 | elirips | s_ward: now i found it, thanks. |
| 08:22.51 | joosep | it says it depends on libfam-dev, but it's not in the repos |
| 08:22.53 | nkuttler | Grant85: no |
| 08:23.12 | Grant85 | nkuttler, can you join #flood? |
| 08:23.18 | nkuttler | Grant85: put a +x at the top of the postinst script a 'set +x' |
| 08:23.39 | litage | any idea what the difference is between the Xeon DP and MP? |
| 08:23.40 | ztrajp | Is there a script for ssh that automatic login to the server and execute a program ? |
| 08:23.46 | Grant85 | eh where do i put a set +x? |
| 08:23.52 | nkuttler | Grant85: 2nd line |
| 08:24.04 | nkuttler | Grant85: /var/lib/dpkg/info/postfix.postinst probably |
| 08:25.10 | elirips | and is there a command i can call to cleanly close my all my xsessions, and restart xfree86? do the keyboard shourtcuts set in the kde control center also work when kdm is running? |
| 08:25.11 | nkuttler | ztrajp: ztrajp cron + ssh keys? |
| 08:25.49 | nkuttler | elirips: what do you mean by cleanly and all? how many xservers are you running? |
| 08:26.18 | s_ward | elirips, ah, glad you did, I was just going to tell you after installing the thing -- I'll PURGE it now :) |
| 08:26.57 | whitespace | How should the shebang look if I run both bash and perl in a script? |
| 08:27.05 | elirips | nkuttler: i am running one xserver. cleanly, i mean so that it saves my session, terminates all running apps, actually does the same when i click logout (reason: i need to restart x with a different config file to enable/disable tv-out. i would like to bind a hotkey to that). |
| 08:27.20 | nkuttler | whitespace: #bash, #perl, i think i told you before |
| 08:27.25 | elirips | s_ward: why you dont like it? |
| 08:27.49 | gogo3or | why I have got small font in non-kde apps? |
| 08:27.55 | nkuttler | elirips: i don't use kde. did you check the control center? |
| 08:28.12 | nkuttler | kontrol center even |
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| 08:28.58 | s_ward | elirips, that would get into WM/DE war territory, most of it is a personal dislike of KDE that will cause some never ending argument of why I'm a kunt :) |
| 08:29.10 | elirips | nkuttler: yes, i can bind key-combinations to a script there. but what command do i need to call to make the script terminate my kde-session, shutdown x, and restart it with a different config-file? |
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| 08:29.52 | elirips | s_ward: ah, okay, i see. so let's leave it like that ;) |
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| 08:30.12 | nkuttler | elirips: no idea |
| 08:30.22 | benjamindees | elirips, you're way into "write a script" land |
| 08:30.44 | benjamindees | elirips, which will be tricky 'cuz it will have to kill xfree86 |
| 08:31.20 | elirips | benjamindees: well, in wort case i'll simply do a 'sh /etc/init.d/xfree86 stop'. but that is not what i think of a 'clean' logout. |
| 08:31.21 | nkuttler | benjamindees: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart should do |
| 08:31.56 | benjamindees | nkuttler, or that, but when? how do you know you're logged off? |
| 08:32.02 | s_ward | elirips, there are logout and shutdown commands in kcontrol, haven't seen a restart session |
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| 08:32.13 | nkuttler | benjamindees: how do you logout in the first place? |
| 08:32.29 | nkuttler | elirips: try google, #debian-kde, #kde |
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| 08:32.33 | benjamindees | nkuttler, that should be easy in kde |
| 08:32.40 | benjamindees | nkuttler, probably a dcop call or something |
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| 08:33.05 | nkuttler | benjamindees: can you do such a thing from bash? |
| 08:33.14 | benjamindees | nkuttler, undoubtedly |
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| 08:33.38 | nkuttler | nice |
| 08:33.59 | elirips | thanks people for your help. guess i'm going to ask about it on the debian-kde-mailinglist. guess someone there should know what i have to call.. |
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| 08:34.21 | benjamindees | ask in #kde |
| 08:34.36 | Deb_Newbie | Anybody know how to get rid of the icons on gnome's desktop? I want to remove Computer, My home and wastebasket. |
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| 08:35.31 | benjamindees | or, does logging out restart x anyways? |
| 08:35.36 | Gathond | Deb_Newbie: you cant delete them? |
| 08:36.18 | Hackel | Deb_Newbie: Configuration Editor - /apps/nautilus/desktop |
| 08:36.30 | s_ward | benjamindees, logging out shuts down X, I think -- if you have a DM running, it will display that |
| 08:36.31 | Deb_Newbie | Hackel, woot thanks |
| 08:36.32 | Gathond | Deb_Newbie: if you cant then try somewhere in nautilus settings dialog (dont use gnome myself though, so I dont have a specific item to check), seems to remember it having an option for it to not control the desktop |
| 08:36.51 | Deb_Newbie | Gathond, thanks for info |
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| 08:37.35 | leminhteo | hi all |
| 08:38.01 | libertine_ | Hackel: thx |
| 08:38.14 | benjamindees | ah, kdm has an option to restart X on logoff |
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| 08:40.01 | benjamindees | in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, TerminateServer=true |
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| 08:41.52 | Dazgar1 | hi |
| 08:41.53 | eduard | Hi, whats the right place to ask about apache2/mofd_perl stuf? |
| 08:42.25 | Dazgar1 | how can i install debian on a dell dimension with sata please ? |
| 08:42.48 | Nwallins | carefully |
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| 08:43.47 | liable | Dazgar1: depends on the controller. http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
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| 08:44.28 | pink1 | I/m running sarge - how do I connect my thunderbird to my localhost to POP my mail? |
| 08:44.51 | resiak | eduard: #apache , probably |
| 08:45.04 | rixth | eddul, and #perl possibly #mod_perl |
| 08:45.06 | s_ward | eduard, #apache #apache-modules here if it appears to be a Debian specific problem |
| 08:45.42 | rixth | eduard is an op in #mod_perl :) |
| 08:46.08 | Dazgar1 | liable: ata_piix a*i think |
| 08:46.39 | liable | Dazgar1: did you read the link? |
| 08:46.55 | s_ward | yeah.. 'tis #modperl I think |
| 08:46.58 | Dazgar1 | doing it right now :) |
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| 08:47.08 | amorphix | hi guys |
| 08:47.37 | amorphix | im getting failed cronjob emails saying users dont exist when they do. is there something i need to do to update my users db? |
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| 08:49.59 | pink1 | how do I get my thunderbird to connect to localhost to POP the mails off postfix? |
| 08:50.25 | Gathond | pink1: postfix has no pop support, what pop server do you use |
| 08:50.30 | b0rre | Hi! When Debian try to mount '/', I get an error; invalig argument. This happendes after Debby have checked the disk for errors. |
| 08:50.41 | pink1 | Ermm - dunno |
| 08:50.41 | rocky23 | hi all, im trying to get my ups to communication with my debian box, its a smart ups and uses usb.. on the other server which uses uhci, i just compiled in the usb options needed and uhci and it was fine, but my other box uses OHCI its got all the usb options in and ohci controller in and i can " cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" and i can see it under there but apcupsd still says cant find usb device?? on boot up i get OHCI_hcd option workaround unavai |
| 08:50.44 | Gathond | pink1: postfix is an smtp server only, it sends/recieves mail |
| 08:51.16 | pink1 | ok - so how do I POP the mails off localhost then? |
| 08:51.19 | Gathond | pink1: it does not provide a means pop3/imap access to mailboxes on the mail server, something else is required for that, if it is needed |
| 08:51.59 | Gathond | pink1: seems kinda pointless to ude pop to localhost though, cant mozilla read the mailbox format directly? |
| 08:52.10 | pink1 | dunno...... |
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| 08:52.22 | pink1 | I use firefox |
| 08:52.30 | resiak | pink1: The correct answer is "yes". Why are you trying to do what you are? |
| 08:52.52 | Gathond | pink1: but anyway, you would need to 1. find out which if any pop server is installed, 2. configure/install one |
| 08:53.03 | Gathond | pink1: is firefox not a browser only thing? |
| 08:53.21 | pink1 | yes |
| 08:53.28 | pink1 | I use thunderbird for mails |
| 08:54.07 | pink1 | can I connect thunderbird to the local mailboxes? |
| 08:54.11 | Gathond | pink1: ok, resiak seems to think it can read the mailspool directly (I agree it most likely can, but I never used thunderbird so not sure how) |
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| 08:54.17 | resiak | Gathond: I do? |
| 08:54.34 | resiak | Gathond: I said it can read _mbox_. Didn't say it can read the mailspool directly. :) |
| 08:54.38 | Gathond | resiak: you said the answer was yes? ... or was that to something else? :) |
| 08:54.40 | pink1 | resiak - I am trying to learn how this machine works :-) |
| 08:54.53 | Gathond | resiak: ahh ok |
| 08:55.12 | resiak | pink1: You probably want to set up procmail or something, and make it deliver your mail to a Maildir in ~. As a bonus, you'll be able to write .procmailrc rules! \o/ |
| 08:55.22 | b0rre | How come I get a 'invalid argument' while trying to mount hda1 as '/' ? |
| 08:55.35 | b0rre | Where to get more information about this 'invalid argument' ? |
| 08:55.45 | Gathond | b0rre: you have an invalid argument in the mount statement somewhere? |
| 08:55.53 | b0rre | During installation |
| 08:56.08 | pink1 | resaik: I take it procmail is a POP server? |
| 08:56.22 | pink1 | how do I get it fired up? |
| 08:56.29 | Gathond | pink1: no, procmail is a mail sorting system |
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| 08:56.41 | b0rre | I've partioned my hda1 in to three partions. (1swap+/&/home). During the inst. it says I need to mount /. I choose hda1, and it gets 'invalid argument'. The same error on all partions. |
| 08:56.43 | pink1 | Aaaarrrgh !! |
| 08:56.50 | benjamindees | heh |
| 08:57.10 | pink1 | what do I need to do here ? |
| 08:57.11 | Noid | b0rre: are you sure / is in hda1? |
| 08:57.12 | Gathond | pink1: the point is that there is no need for a pop server to read mail locally |
| 08:57.18 | benjamindees | pink1, what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 08:57.35 | liable | b0rre: can you paste fdisk -l, and fstab to a paster? |
| 08:57.49 | Gathond | pink1: as thunderbird should be capable of reading the mail directly since its already in the filesystem |
| 08:57.52 | pink1 | I want to learn how to connect my sarge laptop to it's own mail |
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| 08:57.59 | rocky23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.14 | pink1 | I can not get thunderbird to read the local mailboxes |
| 08:58.15 | benjamindees | pink1, "it's own mail" == system messages and such on the laptop? |
| 08:58.19 | pink1 | yes |
| 08:58.29 | resiak | pink1: Point it at ~/Mail |
| 08:58.33 | wwallace | after installing debian and do the command startx my laptop screen goes black and i cent even get into a f-1 or f-2 console |
| 08:58.34 | resiak | Oh wail |
| 08:58.36 | benjamindees | pink1, did you forward root mail to your user? |
| 08:58.38 | resiak | I lie, ignore me. |
| 08:58.39 | wwallace | what can i do? |
| 08:58.41 | pink1 | yes |
| 08:58.46 | resiak | wwallace: Did you install Sid? |
| 08:58.47 | benjamindees | pink1, what resiak said |
| 08:58.53 | resiak | benjamindees: I was wrong. |
| 08:59.01 | wwallace | i intalled.............. |
| 08:59.02 | aurax | can someone hook me up with linkspeed test |
| 08:59.11 | aurax | some 50megs file |
| 08:59.13 | b0rre | noid: This is where I choose where '/' should be. I've tried to set '/' at hda1 and *2. The same error. I can't initalize linux partition :-( |
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| 08:59.24 | wwallace | debian 31 -roa-i386-netinst-iso |
| 08:59.37 | benjamindees | pink1, okay then point it to /var/mail/username |
| 08:59.43 | resiak | wwallace: Which version of Debiandid you install? It may interest you to know that Sarge's X doesn't play nicely with some recent laptop graphics chipsets. |
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| 09:00.16 | wwallace | i dont knowwich one i installed |
| 09:00.17 | Noid | b0rre: do what liable said then, and paste too the exact error you get |
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| 09:02.10 | rhalff | hi is anyone useing the dexter php5 packages ? |
| 09:02.24 | rhalff | I want to upgrade them, but install tells me a lot of php5 packages will be removed then. |
| 09:02.29 | pink1 | benjamindees - that didn;t work |
| 09:02.37 | pink1 | it's refusing the connection |
| 09:02.39 | sim__ | Anyone using qt4-dev-tools from unstable. It segfaults on me everytime I launch assistant |
| 09:02.39 | Trace | Hello, does anyone how to use partimage with "-B"? I tyied several hours but still don't know how. |
| 09:02.49 | b0rre | noid: no I can't. But I ran 'fdisk -l' in 'ash', and found out there is difference between physical and logical endings. Does this has anything with BIOS conf to do? |
| 09:02.53 | rhalff | I wonder if they are integrated into new packages or that functionality will be gone after I upgrade. |
| 09:02.56 | benjamindees | pink1, it's not a server, just a local file |
| 09:03.03 | pink1 | yes |
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| 09:03.44 | pink1 | but if I ca=hange the localfile - i will lose my regular mail |
| 09:04.18 | sim__ | mornfall, hey how's it going? |
| 09:04.56 | pink1 | I have accounts for my usual mail from my mailserver and I want my local mail as well |
| 09:05.16 | qpee | hi, if i have made a copy of a source tree of a specific application and have made modifications to it , i get the differences using diff -u. but how could i use that unified diff to `patch` the original? i mean it's not just one file i modified but 10 in different sub-directories. any ideas? |
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| 09:05.38 | benjamindees | pink1, actually thunderbird seems to have no support for mail files |
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| 09:06.13 | pink1 | so - can I set up my localhost as if it was a mailserver ? |
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| 09:07.31 | jm_ | qpee: man patch |
| 09:07.40 | sim__ | nick psimon |
| 09:07.44 | trueno | Hi! Is it safe to connect to a windows 2003 server using rdesktop? (i.e. will the session be encrypted?) |
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| 09:08.34 | Gathond | trueno: configuration dependent I think |
| 09:08.58 | simon_p | mornfall, hey are you awake? |
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| 09:09.55 | netcraft | hiya |
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| 09:10.50 | simon_p | no one's using qt4? I don't believe that :) |
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| 09:11.29 | simonrvn | no. |
| 09:11.30 | trueno | Gathond: Is there any tutorial somewhere? I can't manage to find it... |
| 09:11.37 | shikna | is it possible to set up a proxy on debian server and use it only for eggrop connection as smth like tunnel ? work around for autokill on my irc network ;) |
| 09:11.52 | Gathond | trueno: dont know, I think its a server configuration though |
| 09:12.07 | mornfall | simon_p: hmh? |
| 09:12.20 | simon_p | mornfall, not sleeping ha :) |
| 09:12.24 | simonrvn | i fail to see how qt4 would be pertinent to me when nothing's built on it yet |
| 09:12.30 | Gathond | trueno: that is, if ssl is enabled on the windows server it would be encrypted, if its not enabled it will not, but I dont really use windows for that kind of thing |
| 09:12.53 | simon_p | simonrvn, well but it will be :) one day |
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| 09:13.01 | benjamindees | pink1, okay, here's what you can do |
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| 09:13.23 | sciboy | Heya, if i want to ask questions about midi/music composition under linux, which channel should i hit?> |
| 09:13.35 | mornfall | simon_p: naah :) |
| 09:13.44 | benjamindees | pink1, you can make a symbolic link from your mozilla "local folders" in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird to /var/mail/whatever |
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| 09:13.50 | trueno | Gathond: The thing is that copying files through rdesktop works faster than using winscp |
| 09:13.55 | pink1 | benjamindees - -I'm all ears |
| 09:13.58 | simon_p | simonrvn, I have this little problem, I need GUI to be running on windows too, so I installed qt4 and it segfaults :( |
| 09:14.08 | Zap-W | why isnt prozilla packaged in unstable? |
| 09:14.23 | Gathond | trueno: probably, I've found most scp implementations on win32s to be really really bad performance wise |
| 09:14.26 | benjamindees | pink1, first off you'll have to find the profile name, so 'ls ~/.mozilla-thunderbird' |
| 09:14.30 | simon_p | mornfall, is it working for you or you haven't tried yet? |
| 09:14.40 | mornfall | simon_p: working what? |
| 09:14.45 | simon_p | mornfall, qt4 |
| 09:14.58 | mornfall | simon_p: i have qt4 and kdelibs-trunk compiled |
| 09:15.41 | pink1 | benjamindees - no such file |
| 09:16.01 | simon_p | mornfall, I tried both qt4-dev-tools from unstable and compile it myself: debs segfault everytime, my compiled version only sometimes :( any suggestions? |
| 09:16.09 | benjamindees | pink1, you added the period? do you have thunderbird working? |
| 09:16.17 | pink1 | yes and yes |
| 09:16.27 | benjamindees | pink1, you're on Debian? |
| 09:16.30 | mornfall | simon_p: no idea |
| 09:16.51 | simon_p | mornfall, hmmm, too bad, so you haven't tried the debs? |
| 09:17.00 | mornfall | simon_p: nope, are there any? :) |
| 09:17.02 | pink1 | benjamindees - sorry typo |
| 09:17.09 | trueno | Gathond: Tha's why I am interseted in knowing whether connections through rdesktop are encrypted... |
| 09:17.09 | pink1 | appreg profiles.ini wcf9wt55.default |
| 09:17.10 | simon_p | mornfall, sure in unstable |
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| 09:17.28 | simon_p | mornfall, anyway hows school and job? |
| 09:17.48 | Noid | b0rre: i wouldn't know, sorry |
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| 09:18.35 | b0rre | This is just awkward. I got a new error message when I've tried to enter cfdisk. 'logical partions overlaps!'. I don't even have a logical partion! |
| 09:18.41 | b0rre | partition. |
| 09:18.51 | pink1 | benjamindees - did you get that? |
| 09:19.32 | liable | b0rre: sounds a bit screwy, if its a new install, I would start again.. |
| 09:19.42 | benjamindees | pink1, okay, probably should also check that your username is listed in 'ls /var/mail' |
| 09:19.56 | b0rre | liable, yeah, it's a new install. OK. I'll give it another shot. |
| 09:19.59 | liable | b0rre: this is with a sarge cd, not woody? |
| 09:20.07 | mornfall | simon_p: goes well |
| 09:20.12 | pink1 | benjamindees - it is |
| 09:20.31 | sciboy | With apt, how do i force it to install a package dispite a dependency is missing? |
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| 09:21.45 | benjamindees | pink1, okay, so do 'ln -s /var/mail/$USER ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/wcf9wt55.default/Mail/Local Folders/$USER' |
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| 09:22.43 | b0rre | liable, what is the differ? I've got a netdebby which has a kernel 2.2.20 per default |
| 09:22.58 | X2 | sciboy, i don't think you can >_> |
| 09:23.15 | pink1 | benjamindees - "when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory" |
| 09:23.39 | benjamindees | pink1, you've got an extra space somewhere |
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| 09:23.43 | liable | !d-i b0rre |
| 09:23.44 | dpkg | b0rre, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:24.16 | liable | b0rre: woody is the old stable (a few years old) sarge is the new stable. :) |
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| 09:24.27 | s_ward | sciboy, if apt has already downloaded the package, it may be in /var/cache/apt/archives, you can use dpkg with its own force/ignore dependencies options to install it |
| 09:24.32 | b0rre | cfdisk are saying that my disk has 128 heads. This is not true. i got 16. It also says that I've got 504 cyls, this is also not true |
| 09:24.39 | b0rre | Why are debby detecting this all wrong? |
| 09:24.42 | benjamindees | pink1, oops, try 'ln -s /var/mail/$USER ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/wcf9wt55.default/Mail/Local\ Folders/$USER' |
| 09:24.52 | pink1 | benjamindees - I copied and pasted your command ;-) |
| 09:25.19 | amorphix | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:25.22 | clusty | hello |
| 09:25.23 | pink1 | just s/$USER/myname |
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| 09:25.36 | amorphix | im getting failed cronjob emails saying users dont exist when they do. is there something i need to do to update my users db? |
| 09:25.39 | benjamindees | pink1, if you want, but it's a valid variable |
| 09:25.47 | clusty | i am looking for a profiling prograam that runs on AIX |
| 09:25.56 | clusty | anyone now of any? |
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| 09:26.25 | sajtipajti | Hi |
| 09:26.27 | liable | nerim is having problems today? |
| 09:26.41 | jm_ | clusty: IBM has documentation on-line, it tells you how to profile things |
| 09:26.41 | amorphix | can one just copy the usersdb from a backup? |
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| 09:27.09 | sajtipajti | I like to boot from an usb pen, but it is not work |
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| 09:27.18 | clusty | jm_: i have no clue of the site :-D |
| 09:27.20 | sajtipajti | how can I make it? |
| 09:27.20 | pink1 | benjamindees - do I restart thunderbird then? |
| 09:27.26 | jm_ | clusty: bah http://publib16.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ds_form?lang=en_US&viewset=AIX |
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| 09:27.43 | ^Daknet^ | how can I unload a module? |
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| 09:27.50 | amorphix | rmmod |
| 09:27.50 | rocky23 | does anyone mind helping me with getting apcupsd to see my ups? as the kernel seems to see it fine :/ |
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| 09:27.54 | ixion | hi, how can I change my nameservers? I have edited interfaces name servers and up/down'd them but the change is not taking effect |
| 09:27.58 | benjamindees | pink1, yes you will have to |
| 09:28.06 | faber2 | how can i have a colored prompt in bash? |
| 09:28.08 | liable | no, modprobe -r |
| 09:28.10 | b0rre | Thanx for helping out, anyway, noid, liable. :-) |
| 09:28.16 | ^Daknet^ | how can I get the list of modules loaded in my kernel? |
| 09:28.19 | amorphix | ixion: restart networking? |
| 09:28.28 | ixion | amorphix, I've rebooted - still no change |
| 09:28.29 | faber2 | lsmod |
| 09:28.30 | clusty | plese send the link again |
| 09:28.34 | sajtipajti | You can change the nameservers in the /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:28.34 | liable | b0rre: get the sarge installer.... |
| 09:28.35 | ixion | can ping name servers, but cannot resolve |
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| 09:28.47 | clusty | i use the bloody CGI IRC and my poage got reloaded |
| 09:28.49 | ^Daknet^ | thanks |
| 09:28.52 | b0rre | liable, I'm downloading netinst from the link which you gave me |
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| 09:28.53 | ixion | thanks, that what I Was look in for |
| 09:28.57 | liable | b0rre: :) |
| 09:28.58 | sajtipajti | If somebody can help me in this usb problem please go to private |
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| 09:29.06 | pink1 | benjmaindees - restarted but it's not collected the mails |
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| 09:29.26 | b0rre | How small can my disk be to run debian? |
| 09:29.35 | leminhteo | how to backup file in debian? |
| 09:29.35 | b0rre | I just want it work as a router and nothing more |
| 09:29.40 | Learnin-Bash | how to install mysql on debian please? |
| 09:29.41 | benjamindees | pink1, should be a new folder in local folders, your username |
| 09:30.18 | ixion | Learnin-Bash: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 09:30.21 | rocky23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.34 | pink1 | benjamindees - - BNGO !!!! you'e a star - many thanks |
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| 09:30.53 | rocky23 | b0rre: you could always use something like a floppy based dist, like Leaf Bering UCLIBC, google :) its nice |
| 09:30.55 | dak | how do u tell x what keyboard/mapping to use at startup? |
| 09:31.05 | rhalff | can someone tell if the official unstable of php5 is complete, like has dom etc. |
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| 09:31.12 | ^Daknet^ | doing lsmod I get the list of mods now installed, right? |
| 09:31.14 | floppyears | hi |
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| 09:31.17 | rocky23 | dak: x config ? |
| 09:31.22 | liable | dak: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:31.27 | rocky23 | ^Daknet^: yes |
| 09:31.27 | b0rre | rocky23: haha.. :--) |
| 09:31.41 | dak | well that problem is it dont work :/ |
| 09:31.46 | dak | im on a dell laptop |
| 09:31.48 | floppyears | I'm having problems starting mysqld |
| 09:31.50 | rocky23 | b0rre: or use dpkg to reconfiig the config if you cant work it out like liable said :) |
| 09:31.54 | ^Daknet^ | how can I get the list of all mods (also not installed)? |
| 09:31.54 | ixion | bastard thing, now I can resolve from the box but squid is still throwing up dns errors |
| 09:32.00 | dak | like i can set it to work in metacity and icewm but not xfce |
| 09:32.03 | s_ward | leminhteo, cp, tar, flexbackup, amanda, ... the list goes on |
| 09:32.19 | floppyears | I pasted the output in #flood |
| 09:32.22 | b0rre | rocky23, i'm waiting on the download of sarge something, netinst. :-) |
| 09:32.24 | floppyears | please can somebody help me |
| 09:32.28 | rocky23 | ^Daknet^: type modconf |
| 09:32.29 | dak | by using the gnome keyboard app but it wont work in xfce yeah iknow it isnt gnome and all |
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| 09:32.35 | ^Daknet^ | great! |
| 09:32.47 | ixion | b0rre, if all you want is a router: www.ipcop.org |
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| 09:32.59 | floppyears | can somebody please help me |
| 09:33.05 | ixion | b0rre, unless you want to actually learn something at the same time |
| 09:33.13 | floppyears | the error says: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' |
| 09:33.14 | b0rre | er. the last one |
| 09:33.16 | pink1 | benjmaindees - -do you feel like helping me resolve the problems the local mails are showing - they're all "unable to lookup laptop via gethostbyname()" |
| 09:33.24 | b0rre | I don't learn anything from www.ipcop.org ? |
| 09:33.27 | b0rre | :D |
| 09:33.31 | ixion | a little |
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| 09:33.33 | Gathond | floppyears: and does that exist? |
| 09:33.37 | Learnin-Bash | ixion: I also need to install the latest php. |
| 09:33.44 | floppyears | Gathond: no, and I created by using touch. |
| 09:33.57 | Gathond | floppyears: that wont work |
| 09:33.59 | ixion | Learnin-Bash, using the method you used to install mysql, try figure out how to install php |
| 09:34.05 | floppyears | Gathond: but then when I try to start mysqld it shows this error message, and deletes the file :( |
| 09:34.06 | amorphix | im getting failed cronjob emails saying users dont exist when they do. is there something i need to do to update my users db? |
| 09:34.14 | floppyears | Gathond: how can I create it then ? |
| 09:34.18 | Learnin-Bash | apt-get install php-server? |
| 09:34.24 | amorphix | hi |
| 09:34.26 | ixion | Learnin-Bash, as a hint, apt-cache search XXX will search for packages with XXX in their name |
| 09:34.28 | benjamindees | pink1, are you using nfs? |
| 09:34.28 | Gathond | floppyears: that file is made by mysql and is the socket which programs should use to communicate |
| 09:34.33 | ixion | no, you dont want a server |
| 09:34.37 | ixion | php is not a server |
| 09:34.42 | Gathond | floppyears: mysql should make it, if configured to do so |
| 09:34.43 | ixion | apt-get install php4 |
| 09:34.44 | floppyears | Gathond: oh, sockets, I rememeber now :) |
| 09:34.53 | Learnin-Bash | ok!! |
| 09:34.57 | dubski | anyone know of a url with a guide on how to share a cable internet connection from debian to a windows box using 2 nics in the deb box? |
| 09:35.05 | floppyears | Gathond: any ideas on what's causing this problem or how can I solve it ? |
| 09:35.12 | pink1 | benjamindees - dunno - I just installed sarge and whatever cam with it |
| 09:35.13 | Learnin-Bash | is there php5? |
| 09:35.13 | Gathond | floppyears: if mysql is configured to use unix sockest for communication it makes that socket file (or some socket file) |
| 09:35.35 | benjamindees | pink1, okay so maybe /etc/hosts is wrong |
| 09:35.36 | ixion | dubski, do you understand the concepts and the requirements? eg, what NAT is, what routing is, how it works? |
| 09:35.37 | amorphix | dubski the debian networking howto will explain it |
| 09:35.43 | Gathond | floppyears: wrong path setup? mysql using one and client using another |
| 09:36.07 | floppyears | Gathond: what log can I check to see which one of those is the problem ? |
| 09:36.08 | amorphix | dubski then you use ipmasq howto for the net sharing part |
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| 09:36.23 | dubski | ixion: sort of. i've played around with the config files but it breaks things when i do |
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| 09:36.31 | ^Daknet^ | how can I get infos about a specific module ( like thermal)? |
| 09:36.39 | Gathond | floppyears: check the mysql configuration as for the location of the socket file, then check the client to check if its the same |
| 09:36.45 | amorphix | doesnt need to be complicated |
| 09:36.46 | dubski | amorphix, are those guides on debian.org? |
| 09:36.47 | ixion | dubski, ok so what have you got at the moment? how is it configured? |
| 09:36.52 | Gathond | floppyears: btw, the client dont happen to be in a chroot? |
| 09:36.52 | amorphix | dubski sure |
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| 09:37.27 | dubski | cable modem going into deb box (eth1) and network cable going to windows box via eth0 |
| 09:37.29 | floppyears | Gathond: no, I'm just trying to do "/etc/init.d/mysqld start" and it gives me this error. Everything is running on my own machine. |
| 09:37.31 | sajtipajti | Anybody know about usb pen? |
| 09:37.32 | benjamindees | pink1, is laptop listed in /etc/hosts ? |
| 09:37.37 | pink1 | benjamindees - does /etc/hosts have to include the hostname? |
| 09:37.43 | amorphix | dubski thats same as my setup |
| 09:37.59 | rocky23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.07 | benjamindees | pink1, no but it has to either be there or resolvable through dns |
| 09:38.08 | ixion | dubski, have you got the cable modem and ppoe or whatever you need to use working? |
| 09:38.10 | dubski | amorphix: sweet... |
| 09:38.11 | Gathond | floppyears: might be a problem with the username/password for the debian-maint user? |
| 09:38.12 | pink1 | I have cat'd both files and the names do not exist in both |
| 09:38.23 | ixion | dubski, can the the linux machine communicate with the internet is what I mean |
| 09:38.39 | ^Daknet^ | I'd like to know more infos about the mod "thermal", how can I do? |
| 09:38.50 | dubski | ixion: yep.. using it now via deb... just can't need to get eth0 to connect to the win box |
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| 09:39.18 | benjamindees | pink1, try adding it to the end of the line that starts with 127.0.0.1 |
| 09:39.27 | ixion | dubski, is the windows box and the linux machine connected via a switch/hub or are you using a crossover cable? |
| 09:39.38 | jetx | !ixion++ |
| 09:39.39 | pink1 | benjamindees - now we come to the interesting bit - I would like to name my laptop by a subdomain and then set up some kind of dynamic DNS on my fixed server |
| 09:39.46 | dubski | ixion, crossover |
| 09:39.47 | ixion | jetx?? |
| 09:39.58 | amorphix | whats this ! ++? |
| 09:40.05 | jetx | !karma |
| 09:40.05 | dpkg | jetx has neutral karma |
| 09:40.10 | amorphix | heh |
| 09:40.10 | ixion | dubski, ok have you given both machines static IP's on the same subnet? |
| 09:40.21 | benjamindees | pink1, ugh, well sorry but I really need to go |
| 09:40.33 | amorphix | ixion is networking guru |
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| 09:40.47 | ixion | eh, no |
| 09:40.52 | benjamindees | pink1, that's kind of involved, perhaps someone else can help |
| 09:40.59 | pink1 | benjamindees - no problem - many thanks |
| 09:41.04 | amorphix | how do i network my toaster? |
| 09:41.09 | dubski | ixion, nah. thats the part i'm having problems with. when i edit /etc/network/interfaces things stop working |
| 09:41.15 | larsie | amorphix :D |
| 09:41.18 | amorphix | ;-) |
| 09:41.20 | ixion | dubski, join #flood |
| 09:41.32 | dubski | ok |
| 09:41.41 | ixion | amorphix, I own the domain eviltoaster.co.uk :) |
| 09:41.49 | amorphix | woah |
| 09:41.56 | qpee_ | how can i use the -x parameter for diff if i want to use multiple filenames/directories? the man doesn't say anything about that. it just says PATTERN |
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| 09:41.59 | amorphix | do you wanna sell it? |
| 09:42.01 | amorphix | :P |
| 09:42.02 | ixion | lol no |
| 09:42.13 | benjamindees | pink1, I will suggest you can get a dynamic dns name from www.no-ip.com |
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| 09:42.46 | amorphix | ive had 6 toasters in less than 2 years |
| 09:42.52 | benjamindees | pink1, if that's what you're looking for, but gtg... |
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| 09:44.02 | amorphix | i guess its time to reboot |
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| 09:46.01 | Grant85 | Hello, when installing postfix i receive the following error: chage: can't open shadow password fileadduser: `/usr/bin/chage -M 99999 |
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| 09:48.07 | ixion | who are you logged in as |
| 09:48.15 | Grant85 | root |
| 09:49.07 | floppyears | Gathond: thanks for your help so far :) . How can I check and see if the password for debian-sys-maint is the correct one ? |
| 09:49.10 | Zap-W | yo |
| 09:49.28 | Zap-W | anyone having trouble with gmplayer? mine gets stuck in vo: X11 running at 1024x768 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display) |
| 09:49.29 | Zap-W | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.43 | Gathond | floppyears: what exactly does the mysql log say? |
| 09:49.47 | Grant85 | ixion: root? |
| 09:50.07 | ixion | I dunno.. |
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| 09:52.07 | eIzo | hi ppl |
| 09:52.21 | eIzo | i've got a quick question |
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| 09:52.48 | floppyears | Gathond: I'll paste in flood what it says |
| 09:53.13 | Grant85 | LOL @ ixion |
| 09:53.22 | Gathond | floppyears: no need, does it say the password fails? or the login is denied? |
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| 09:53.43 | eIzo | im setting up vpn with poptop |
| 09:54.01 | jetx | i can't ping my isp's dns server. i also seem to be unable to do dns lookups. |
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| 09:54.21 | jetx | and i have this big fugly red light on my modem |
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| 09:54.33 | eIzo | but sometimes get the error in syslog "/dev/pts 3 no such file or directory" |
| 09:54.34 | floppyears | Gathond: it says that it can't connect to the socket, and also unknown variable 'old_passwords=1' |
| 09:54.36 | jetx | err router |
| 09:55.24 | Gathond | floppyears: seems like the problem would be the socket file, and not the login information, is my.cnf configured to put the socket file in the used location? |
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| 09:56.18 | eIzo | or /dev/pts [whatever] sometimes it connects fine - and sometimes it says it can't find /dev/pts X |
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| 09:58.08 | floppyears | Gathond: yes, they point the the right location |
| 09:58.47 | eIzo | i also sometimes get error GRE : Bad checksum from pppd |
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| 09:59.05 | cartel_ | whats the opposite to split? |
| 09:59.08 | cartel_ | cat ? |
| 09:59.13 | floppyears | Gathond: how can I check and see if something is already using that port for some reason ? |
| 09:59.29 | rocky23 | would anyone mind lending a hand to help me get apcupsd working with my usb back ups |
| 09:59.41 | rocky23 | floppyears: netstat -pant |
| 10:00.05 | cartel_ | i need to put back together a file split with split |
| 10:00.16 | s_ward | cartel_, yes, use cat |
| 10:00.24 | cartel_ | how? |
| 10:00.33 | yam | weird... need to network boot from a 3com gigabit (tigon3) nic, but nic rom doesnt show up |
| 10:00.44 | cartel_ | in dos you could do: copy foo+bar+baz quux |
| 10:00.51 | s_ward | cartel_, cat file1 file2 ... -- see the man page |
| 10:00.53 | rocky23 | cartel: man split |
| 10:01.18 | floppyears | Gathond: nothing is using that port already :( |
| 10:01.20 | cartel_ | rocky23: i did |
| 10:01.24 | Vyrus001 | how do i change my console resolution? (when i boot my system i get this tiny 800 X 600 window that dosent fill the screen, but x boots in 1024 X 768) |
| 10:01.43 | cartel_ | s_ward: oh i see |
| 10:01.54 | cartel_ | s_ward: hopefully cat wont bung it up |
| 10:02.02 | Kev0r | i've got gnome-volume-manager installed via apt-get, now i need to compile other options into it, can i just run Makefile and it gets overwrited |
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| 10:02.53 | Gathond | floppyears: its not a port as such, its a local socket file, no network thing involved |
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| 10:03.31 | dv__ | hello. |
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| 10:04.11 | dv__ | I know that kde3.4 isnt supported yet. |
| 10:04.18 | dv__ | but I can't install kde 3.3 either! |
| 10:04.35 | gusar612 | What package should i download to get access to lssrc command? |
| 10:04.57 | dv__ | does gcc 4.0 and/or X.org break something regarding kde3.3? |
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| 10:05.23 | s_ward | Vyrus001, kernel options do that, add them to your boot loader config, see <kernel-docs>/fb/ for what to add |
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| 10:05.50 | tigermb | where can i find the people of debian-openoffice? |
| 10:06.06 | rocky23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.10 | floppyears | Gathond: I don't remember doing anything to it. It was running fine, but when I rebooted the machine about 1 hour ago, it failed to start :( |
| 10:07.09 | Gathond | floppyears: strange, I dont have a solution at hand though |
| 10:07.17 | rocky23 | floppyears: whats prob |
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| 10:07.29 | Madkiss | hi all. |
| 10:07.41 | Madkiss | When creating cpio-archives, how do I include symlinks? |
| 10:07.41 | rocky23 | Madkiss: hi |
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| 10:10.29 | floppyears | rocky23: mysql won't start. It says that it couldn't connect to localhost through the socket file :( |
| 10:10.48 | rocky23 | floppyears: is it creating this socket file ? |
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| 10:11.00 | rocky23 | floppyears: is there an error saying why it cant create it or anything |
| 10:11.12 | eIzo | can anyone who has setup vpn server successfuklly plz priv me - need help urgent |
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| 10:13.18 | rocky23 | would anyone mind lending a hand to help me get apcupsd working with my usb back ups, ive done it on one server, but the other one just doesnt seem to see it, it using uhci on the working and ohci on the other.. can anyone help please |
| 10:13.22 | rocky23 | what happened to bob2 and that :/ |
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| 10:13.40 | sumonish | hi all |
| 10:13.45 | rocky23 | hi |
| 10:13.49 | floppyears | rocky23: no, I'll paste the output in flood so that you can take a look at it |
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| 10:15.11 | gogo3or | hello folks |
| 10:15.36 | sumonish | im trying to setup an Nforce ethernet device and i can seem to get it to work i have downloaded and installed Nforce drivers from Nvidia but it still wont autodetect the device is there a manual command i can use |
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| 10:16.01 | rocky23 | summonish: what chipset does it use? |
| 10:16.07 | rocky23 | is it a nic ? |
| 10:16.11 | sumonish | Athlon Nvidia |
| 10:16.24 | sumonish | yep an onboard nforce chip |
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| 10:16.45 | sumonish | does sond an network (both work had fedora on prev) |
| 10:17.07 | rocky23 | sumonish: what did it use on fedora for chipset |
| 10:17.39 | sumonish | installed Nforce drivers and used redhat network tools to configure |
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| 10:18.51 | htedrom | hey guys is there any way i can start mounting home directories on a different partition? |
| 10:18.53 | htedrom | after the install? |
| 10:19.05 | rocky23 | sumonish: got to admit ive only every used 3com / intel etc nics as then i can just compile the drivers in to the kernel without having to patch etc |
| 10:19.27 | streuner | htedrom: man fstab, man mount |
| 10:19.49 | htedrom | thanks streuner |
| 10:20.00 | sumonish | hrm ohwell ill have to keep googleing |
| 10:20.27 | IRCMonkey | Im having problems installing gtk-gnutella on Debian. The installer script says "Now you must run '/usr/bin/make'", and I dont know how to do that :( |
| 10:20.40 | rocky23 | streuner: ever used apcupsd ? :) |
| 10:20.49 | IRCMonkey | Sorry.. I know that must be a newbie Q |
| 10:20.57 | liable | sumonish: if you have the kernel module installed, just modprobe foo. |
| 10:20.57 | gogo3or | can i add monitor to my laptop and install some software on another computer the laptop will be only the screen for the pc |
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| 10:21.18 | rocky23 | IRCMonkey: are you compiling gnutella or installing via apt-get ? |
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| 10:21.27 | IRCMonkey | Im compiling |
| 10:21.35 | IRCMonkey | Is there a package ??? |
| 10:21.43 | liable | IRCMonkey: um, how abot typing '/usr/bin/make'?? |
| 10:21.54 | rocky23 | IRCMonkey: gtk-gnutella - shares files in a peer to peer network |
| 10:22.07 | rocky23 | IRCMonkey: apt-cache search something - is your friend |
| 10:22.18 | IRCMonkey | It says "no such file" |
| 10:22.35 | rocky23 | IRCMonkey: man apt . thinkgs like apt-cache show gtk-gnutella are good too |
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| 10:22.38 | liable | !info gtk-gnutella sarge |
| 10:22.41 | dpkg | gtk-gnutella: (shares files in a peer to peer network), section net, is optional. Version: 0.95-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 1572 kB, Installed size: 5264 kB |
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| 10:22.57 | dv__ | man man |
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| 10:23.02 | jm_ | sumonish: latest kernels support nforce ethernet chipset |
| 10:23.03 | htedrom | hey all can i delete and remake my swap partition? |
| 10:23.07 | dv__ | I don't understand those kde errors |
| 10:23.12 | htedrom | i'm trying to make it bigger, and i've got some unpartitioned space |
| 10:23.16 | jm_ | htedrom: what's the point? |
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| 10:23.54 | htedrom | jm_: make it bigger...when i made it i could only spare 400 megs |
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| 10:24.02 | htedrom | and i just read it should be at least as big as my ram |
| 10:24.08 | htedrom | 640 |
| 10:24.14 | jm_ | htedrom: so do it |
| 10:24.18 | htedrom | i can? |
| 10:24.22 | jm_ | that depends on your usage and whatnot |
| 10:24.22 | htedrom | it won't freak out sarge? |
| 10:24.26 | jm_ | you have my permission! |
| 10:24.29 | htedrom | haha thanks |
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| 10:24.40 | dv__ | has kde3.3 been broken or what? |
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| 10:24.59 | liable | htedrom: um, do you ever actually use any swap? I have 512 ram, and as far as I am aware have never actually used swap, even running kde... |
| 10:25.20 | ttick | if I want to relay my mail from my laptop through my server in a secure way, basically what would I need? Any howto's or suggestions on where I might start looking for a guide for that kinda setup? |
| 10:25.23 | jm_ | htedrom: swapoff it first, or if that won't work use single user mode |
| 10:25.27 | htedrom | liable: yea, but usually it doesn't get above 200 |
| 10:25.38 | jm_ | tticka;imaps or access it via web using https |
| 10:25.57 | IRCMonkey | hmm.. right.. Iĺl have to get the package from the Debian site. Its not on the danish debian server :/ |
| 10:26.11 | ttick | jm_: well, i can read mail with imaps, but not send it that way, right? |
| 10:26.13 | kneet | I swear tar cvf isn't supposed to segfault on me |
| 10:26.16 | htedrom | liable: i check it with systemload |
| 10:26.39 | htedrom | fuck it i don't want the headache |
| 10:26.45 | htedrom | i'm just gonna leave it at 400 |
| 10:26.50 | liable | htedrom: well, do what you want, but if you dont use all the swap you have, why bother? |
| 10:26.56 | htedrom | yea |
| 10:27.05 | ValheruLord | checking for g++... no gcc is installed why can this be |
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| 10:27.52 | jm_ | ttick: yes |
| 10:28.00 | liable | ValheruLord: what are you doing? |
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| 10:28.16 | ValheruLord | liable, compilation |
| 10:28.19 | liable | !b-e ValheruLord |
| 10:28.20 | dpkg | ValheruLord: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 10:28.30 | jm_ | ttick: well you could still send it at the place you currerntly are, but it may not come from the same address and all that |
| 10:28.30 | ttick | jm_: I'm wondering how to set up exim for secure relay or something. Not really sure what to google for at this point. |
| 10:28.56 | ValheruLord | liable, build essential gives errors |
| 10:29.06 | liable | ValheruLord: installing it? |
| 10:29.17 | ValheruLord | yes |
| 10:29.26 | rocky23 | ValheruLord: what errors :) |
| 10:29.34 | liable | well, thats a whole different problem... |
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| 10:29.50 | ValheruLord | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:29.56 | ttick | jm_: right now I'm basically forced to scp the mailfile over to the server, then startup mutt on the server through ssh and send it. Not really my ideal solution. :/ |
| 10:30.00 | ValheruLord | it is a testing distro |
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| 10:30.37 | ^Daknet^ | why can't I load the apm module on my kernel? this is the utput: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device |
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| 10:30.45 | jm_ | ttick: ahh smtp-auth |
| 10:30.53 | jm_ | ^Daknet^: try using ACPI instead |
| 10:31.06 | ttick | jm_: oh, okay, hmm, that might be something to check out. Thanks for the lead. |
| 10:31.24 | jetx | well that was gay |
| 10:31.33 | jetx | oh sorry |
| 10:31.35 | ^Daknet^ | how can I use ACPI to use stand-by? |
| 10:31.39 | jetx | well that was hetero |
| 10:31.56 | liable | ValheruLord: can you paste the errors on a paster for apt-get install build-essential. |
| 10:32.45 | htedrom | hey all, got another q |
| 10:32.57 | jetx | need an R? |
| 10:33.03 | htedrom | it's ok if i've got two different filesystem types right? |
| 10:33.03 | jetx | buy a vowel! |
| 10:33.06 | liable | ^Daknet^: for ease of addressing you, could you kindly remove the leading ^ from your nick? |
| 10:33.08 | jetx | yes |
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| 10:33.34 | ^Daknet^ | yes, shure |
| 10:33.37 | htedrom | cool, and nah keep your R |
| 10:33.58 | ^Daknet^ | trying |
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| 10:34.16 | jetx | some commands will not descend into a different fs w/o specifically instructing it to, but yeah it's ok |
| 10:34.21 | larsie | Noid, liable, ah, thanx for helping out. The sarge thing worked much better.. :--) |
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| 10:34.27 | larsie | (I'm b0rre btw) |
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| 10:34.35 | liable | larsie: :) |
| 10:34.37 | Daknet | here I am |
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| 10:35.02 | liable | Daknet: thanks :) (btw just use /nick newnick :) |
| 10:35.17 | larsie | ? |
| 10:35.21 | larsie | :) |
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| 10:36.09 | Daknet | I'd like to stnd-by my laptop. How can I do this under linux? |
| 10:36.17 | Daknet | stand-by |
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| 10:36.34 | liable | Daknet: laptop? |
| 10:36.39 | jetx | aka "how do i get my laptop to go on standby" |
| 10:37.03 | jetx | insert laptop make/model here |
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| 10:37.26 | Daknet | Fujitsu Siemens AMILO |
| 10:37.31 | liable | Daknet: it takes a bit of fux0ring, but can be done, lots of hits on google, just bare with it and take your time. |
| 10:37.40 | jetx | (bear) |
| 10:37.44 | keir | why, after upgrading to xorg, does ctrl + alt +Fx not work to switch to terminals from X? |
| 10:37.54 | jetx | because you're not worthy |
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| 10:38.04 | dubski | your alt key is broken |
| 10:38.07 | jetx | you didn't sacrifice that goat |
| 10:38.11 | keir | lol |
| 10:38.20 | zOap | can I mount ftp with mount or another app? |
| 10:38.23 | htedrom | hey ladies got another one |
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| 10:38.47 | htedrom | how do i found out what programs are using a mounted fs? i'm trying to umount but it keeps saying it's busy |
| 10:38.59 | htedrom | i could just kick down a few runlevels |
| 10:39.04 | htedrom | but if there's an easier way... |
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| 10:39.05 | zOap | htedrom, try with -l |
| 10:39.18 | liable | htedrom: lsof /dev/foo |
| 10:39.31 | htedrom | thanks |
| 10:39.49 | qzio___ | 606449032611 |
| 10:40.29 | htedrom | what's famd? |
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| 10:40.50 | htedrom | nvm |
| 10:40.53 | htedrom | got the man page |
| 10:41.12 | liable | annoying?? |
| 10:41.18 | jetx | file alteration monitor (seems to get installed with some gnome thing) |
| 10:41.31 | nicknicknick | okay my box hits a load of 78 en up. check server status: http://pastebin.com/329097 |
| 10:41.38 | nicknicknick | s/en/and |
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| 10:42.35 | htedrom | can i kill it? it's keeping tabs on the fs i'm trying to umount |
| 10:42.42 | liable | htedrom: yes |
| 10:42.47 | htedrom | thanks |
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| 10:43.12 | Learnin-Bash` | how to extract a .zip file? |
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| 10:43.19 | dv__ | unzip |
| 10:43.27 | liable | Learnin-Bash`: apt-get install unzip |
| 10:43.59 | htedrom | fuck kdeinit has got its fingers on it too |
| 10:43.59 | Learnin-Bash` | how to extract a .zip file? |
| 10:44.02 | htedrom | i'm just gonna reboot |
| 10:44.30 | liable | htedrom: why? |
| 10:44.38 | htedrom | restart x, i mean |
| 10:44.48 | nicknicknick | load average: 101.76, 94.88, 76.24 |
| 10:45.10 | nicknicknick | it's apache causing this: http://pastebin.com/329097 |
| 10:45.24 | espi | hi, whats the ports work apt-get ? |
| 10:45.43 | liable | um ftp or http? |
| 10:46.42 | liable | mmmm, rib bones are almost done... smell goood :) |
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| 10:47.36 | Guerin | espi: if you don't know, you don't need to know |
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| 10:48.27 | nicknicknick | anyone know a solution without rebootinh the server? |
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| 10:48.41 | nicknicknick | if not, I'm rebooting it. |
| 10:49.03 | jm_ | nicknicknick: did you check why it's so high? |
| 10:49.05 | OsRo | hi! |
| 10:49.09 | OsRo | root 12932 0.0 0.0 1516 476 ? D 11:01 0:00 du -hs Webs/ |
| 10:49.26 | OsRo | kill -9 12932, no kill |
| 10:49.35 | espi | thanks . |
| 10:49.42 | Guerin | OsRo: no shit |
| 10:50.06 | nicknicknick | jm_ yes, apache |
| 10:50.07 | Guerin | nicknicknick: i take it restrating apache doesn't help |
| 10:50.14 | nicknicknick | Guerin indeed |
| 10:50.23 | Guerin | nicknicknick: killall? |
| 10:50.27 | jm_ | nicknicknick: what state are those processes in? |
| 10:50.28 | nicknicknick | allready did |
| 10:50.35 | Guerin | checikk the process stated in ps |
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| 10:50.37 | nicknicknick | jm_ please define that |
| 10:50.42 | jm_ | nicknicknick: ps auxw |
| 10:50.42 | nicknicknick | okay |
| 10:50.42 | Guerin | yeah, like jm_ says |
| 10:50.53 | OsRo | how to kill the process ? |
| 10:50.57 | jm_ | check the STAT column |
| 10:50.57 | Guerin | wow, my typing is very poor |
| 10:51.01 | Guerin | OsRo: can't |
| 10:51.04 | Guerin | !zombie |
| 10:51.04 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 10:51.05 | OsRo | :-( |
| 10:51.07 | nicknicknick | state: S |
| 10:51.07 | oZt | kill -9 pid |
| 10:51.18 | Guerin | s should be killable |
| 10:51.22 | oZt | Or what kind of process?... |
| 10:51.24 | jm_ | all of them are in state S and you have such a high load? can't be |
| 10:51.25 | Guerin | certainly with -9 |
| 10:51.26 | OsRo | Guerin, no zombi, zombi = z this process D |
| 10:51.32 | _flosch | hi |
| 10:51.47 | jm_ | OsRo: what is Webs/ ? |
| 10:51.59 | nicknicknick | Guerin the problem is that killall apache2 seem to solve it .. but it occurs once in a while ... I just want to get rid of these high loads .... it's just that this opteron box can handle such a load otherwise it would be screwed up. |
| 10:52.01 | Guerin | OsRo: it's proibably waiting for a parent process to die. Try finding that. |
| 10:52.13 | OsRo | personal directory |
| 10:52.19 | jm_ | is it a remote mount? |
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| 10:52.43 | nicknicknick | yeah my server is remote. |
| 10:52.51 | Guerin | he's not talking to you |
| 10:53.08 | jm_ | that was a question for OsRo, but I refuse to prefix questions for him with his nick because he doesn't prefix answers for me |
| 10:53.12 | nicknicknick | Rebooting is the easiest but a rather dirty way to solve the actual problem. The loads get higher and higher |
| 10:53.48 | jetx | !jm_++ |
| 10:54.54 | OsRo | sorry jm_ |
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| 10:55.09 | OsRo | jm_, no is local mount |
| 10:55.24 | jm_ | OsRo: check your logs for any possible errors |
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| 10:58.02 | jm_ | OsRo: or dmesg |
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| 11:01.30 | dubski | i've got a deb box connected to cable and have networked it with an xp box. any idea how I can find out what values to give the xp box for dns ip's? |
| 11:01.55 | jm_ | dubski: your ISP's if you're not running any caching server on the router |
| 11:01.58 | litage | how can you install RPMs in Debian? |
| 11:02.36 | dubski | jm_ , i figured that but i don't know them and don't know how to find out from the deb box , is it possible? |
| 11:02.38 | dimir | litage: using alien |
| 11:02.49 | jm_ | dubski: uff /etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:03.00 | dubski | jm_ cheers |
| 11:03.31 | larsie | uhm, liable, this wouldn't work afterall. I got a LVM error message. Does LVM produce a error log somewhere? |
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| 11:04.33 | Zap-W | hey |
| 11:04.42 | Guerin | been tryin' to meet you |
| 11:05.06 | litage | the current openoffice 2beta only comes in rpm format. how do Debian users install it? using alien? |
| 11:05.18 | Guerin | litage: don't |
| 11:05.22 | litage | Guerin: heh, why not? |
| 11:05.29 | jm_ | it will make a mess |
| 11:05.30 | Guerin | if you have to ask, it's definitely in the 'too-hard' basket |
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| 11:05.45 | litage | :( |
| 11:05.50 | Guerin | every incarnation of it i've tried has been horribly, utterly broken |
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| 11:06.08 | litage | hahah i see. so i should just wait it out until 2.0 is released? |
| 11:06.14 | valdyn_ | litage: oo2.org is in debian/experimental ( which isnt recommended to use but probably better than trying to mess with rpms |
| 11:06.33 | jm_ | ehh there's a link to Debian + OOs 2 |
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| 11:06.40 | litage | thanks valdyn_ |
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| 11:06.54 | jm_ | http://packages.debian.org/experimental/editors/openoffice.org2 |
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| 11:06.57 | jm_ | ahh too late |
| 11:07.12 | htedrom | shitt guys i fucked something up pretty good |
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| 11:07.21 | jetx | \o/ |
| 11:07.22 | htedrom | when i boot into kde from kdm |
| 11:07.28 | htedrom | i just get a console screen top right |
| 11:07.33 | litage | valdyn_: have you been to oo2.org? it's a bit...strange. |
| 11:07.38 | htedrom | and i have to boot programs from the command line |
| 11:07.45 | htedrom | it's like the windows manager is busted or something |
| 11:07.49 | jetx | sounds like startx -e |
| 11:07.59 | dubski | that means kde hasn't loaded |
| 11:08.01 | knt | does reiserfs support exist in the netinstall cd? |
| 11:08.02 | fab | hot to resize/move an ext3 partition? |
| 11:08.04 | jetx | i get that when i startx -e icewm |
| 11:08.23 | htedrom | dubski: why? |
| 11:08.24 | jetx | fab: back up the data, repartition |
| 11:08.28 | valdyn_ | litage: hmm, I didnt find it particularily strange, and i dont remember much about it. |
| 11:08.55 | htedrom | dubski: i tried booting without any free space by accident...it didn't go over well...so i freed up some space |
| 11:08.55 | litage | valdyn_: it's photos of asian people...? |
| 11:08.56 | jm_ | hmm what does -e do? |
| 11:09.04 | htedrom | and now this is where i am |
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| 11:09.09 | jetx | runs a command i 'think' |
| 11:09.12 | dubski | htedrom: sorry i'm to new to help but this happen to me once. sounds like x is loading but not kde |
| 11:09.20 | htedrom | yea |
| 11:09.22 | htedrom | that's my feeling too |
| 11:09.29 | jetx | that command specifys that it runs icewm instead of the alternative-default |
| 11:09.40 | jetx | as in update-alternatives |
| 11:09.47 | valdyn_ | litage: oh 'http://oo2.org/', that isnt related at all to openoffice2 |
| 11:09.53 | jm_ | can't find it in any man pages, you should use something like startx icewm |
| 11:09.55 | dubski | htedrom: did kdm load first? |
| 11:10.01 | htedrom | yea |
| 11:10.03 | htedrom | kdm loads fine |
| 11:10.09 | valdyn_ | litage: www.openoffice.org is their site, my mention of oo2.org was only in reference to openoffice 2 |
| 11:10.20 | litage | valdyn_: ohhh hahha |
| 11:10.29 | htedrom | when i say startx -e kde on the console i have |
| 11:10.29 | jetx | i 'think' i read xtartx --help (which is hard to actually be able to read, iirc) |
| 11:10.31 | htedrom | this is what i get |
| 11:10.36 | knt | doesn't anybody know whether reiserfs support exists in netinstall cd or not? is it possible to learn it from anywhere? (without downloading whole image...) |
| 11:10.36 | jetx | err startx |
| 11:10.42 | dubski | htedrom: beyond my experience i'm afraid :-( |
| 11:10.56 | htedrom | Using authority file /home/htedrom/.Xauthority |
| 11:10.57 | valdyn_ | htedrom: startx -e startkde |
| 11:10.58 | Noid | knt: there is reiserfs support, yes |
| 11:11.00 | htedrom | Writing authority file /home/htedrom/.Xauthority |
| 11:11.01 | jetx | knt iirc yes but i forget |
| 11:11.04 | htedrom | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 11:11.04 | htedrom | xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no program named "/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm" in PATH |
| 11:11.04 | htedrom | Specify a program on the command line or make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 11:11.04 | htedrom | is in your path. |
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| 11:11.11 | fab | jetx: is it possible to make an image to the disk? |
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| 11:11.17 | knt | Noid, jetx: thanks. |
| 11:11.36 | htedrom | valdyn_: that's the output from startx -e kde |
| 11:11.55 | jm_ | you should use startx startkde if anything |
| 11:11.57 | valdyn_ | htedrom: there is an executable named 'kde' anywhere? |
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| 11:12.01 | jetx | fab if you mean make an iso from the partition, yes. dd. |
| 11:12.06 | jetx | it's startkde iirc |
| 11:12.14 | ixion | what does iirc mean ? |
| 11:12.15 | ixion | !iirc |
| 11:12.16 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 11:12.19 | ixion | ah |
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| 11:12.39 | user0001 | Hello |
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| 11:13.06 | jetx | gah jm_ beat me typing startkde :/ |
| 11:13.15 | user0001 | Anyone can help me? |
| 11:13.20 | htedrom | hmmm |
| 11:13.22 | htedrom | ok well |
| 11:13.24 | htedrom | that worked |
| 11:13.27 | htedrom | it started kde |
| 11:13.35 | htedrom | but it looks like everything is back to defaults |
| 11:13.35 | jetx | no anyone can't help you because you didn't ask anything |
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| 11:13.49 | htedrom | although it loaded my session just fine |
| 11:13.59 | jetx | !tell user0001 about ask |
| 11:14.39 | user0001 | I have dual boot installation: windows xp home and debian 3.1 (in hda6). I reinstalled Windows and overwritted GRUB mbr |
| 11:14.52 | user0001 | I dont have debian rescue disk |
| 11:15.03 | htedrom | sweeeet |
| 11:15.17 | dimir | useruser_: get one :-) |
| 11:15.17 | OsRo | jm_, i no look errors, i restart computer |
| 11:15.17 | Guerin | user0001: get one |
| 11:15.18 | dimir | oops, user0001 that is |
| 11:15.22 | Guerin | !beer dimir |
| 11:15.27 | user0001 | where ?? |
| 11:15.27 | jetx | user0001: boot the install disk, take it all the way up to the partitioning portion (don't partition) shell out and chroot |
| 11:15.37 | dimir | !beer Guerin |
| 11:15.37 | Guerin | user0001: install cd will do |
| 11:15.46 | dimir | :-) the same! |
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| 11:16.05 | user0001 | I used netinstall CD: does it work?? |
| 11:16.09 | jetx | yes |
| 11:16.11 | jm_ | OsRo: it might have troubles umounting / then |
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| 11:16.19 | jetx | there is a howto somewhere btw |
| 11:16.32 | user0001 | and what should I do once the CD loads?? |
| 11:16.35 | jetx | but it will say the same as i told you |
| 11:16.41 | jetx | /lastlog jetx |
| 11:17.06 | OsRo | jm_, device is busy |
| 11:17.13 | user0001 | you told something about chroot? |
| 11:17.16 | OsRo | jm_, i restart |
| 11:17.16 | jm_ | OsRo: yes, exactly ... |
| 11:17.17 | jetx | yes |
| 11:17.27 | user0001 | what should I key in |
| 11:17.34 | Guerin | user0001: boot, drop to a shell, mount your /; chroot; run grub-install && update-grub && reboot |
| 11:17.36 | dubski | boddingtons YUM! |
| 11:18.07 | jetx | user0001: ah i forgot the mount portion |
| 11:18.13 | jetx | !guerin++ |
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| 11:18.35 | cbr | why does kernel-package still do packages that are named kernel-image and not linux-image? |
| 11:18.36 | user0001 | how do u mount? it seems the netinst CD does not have /dev/hda6 ? |
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| 11:18.52 | Guerin | you don't need to take it anywhere, just drop into the alt-f2 shell which gives you a busybox with mount and chroot |
| 11:18.54 | jm_ | debian uses devfs on installation media |
| 11:19.13 | Guerin | user0001: don't know the details of your box, sorry. |
| 11:19.17 | jetx | it's that target0/lun0 crap right? |
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| 11:19.25 | larsie | Hey, I got 527Mbytes disk. Would that be large enough to debian+netfilter ? |
| 11:19.46 | jm_ | yes |
| 11:19.56 | larsie | nice, thx. |
| 11:20.18 | ixion | how can I search for large files? |
| 11:20.18 | jetx | user0001: find the howto :) |
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| 11:20.25 | KinG | Slm |
| 11:20.26 | jm_ | ixion: info find |
| 11:20.26 | KinG | dgdopjgdg |
| 11:20.27 | KinG | fdgþhfdkpðhfh |
| 11:20.28 | KinG | fphfkðhfg |
| 11:20.28 | KinG | hdfþlhfg |
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| 11:20.35 | ixion | !info find |
| 11:20.38 | KinG | hi |
| 11:20.39 | jetx | woody makes a kickass rescue cd btw |
| 11:20.42 | jm_ | no, in your shell |
| 11:20.50 | Guerin | KinG: are you always this much of a fucktard? |
| 11:20.50 | FabParma | what is the best way to resize an ext3 partition? |
| 11:21.00 | Guerin | FabParma: back up your shit and repartition |
| 11:21.02 | KinG | Ananý SIkerým Senýn Piç kusuru |
| 11:21.10 | Ronin | KinG: wrong language |
| 11:21.10 | keir | why, after upgrading to xorg, does ctrl + alt +Fx not work to switch to terminals from X? |
| 11:21.22 | KinG | He he ondan Bacýnýda SIKEM |
| 11:21.23 | KinG | sEIN |
| 11:21.24 | jm_ | keir: is it enabled in configuration? |
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| 11:21.40 | keir | jm_, i havent a clue, wheres the relevant config file? |
| 11:21.50 | user0001 | is it a official howto in ldp ?? |
| 11:21.51 | jm_ | keir: I haven't a clue, I use Sarge |
| 11:22.06 | keir | :( |
| 11:22.07 | jm_ | keir: ls /etc/X11 I suppose |
| 11:22.26 | KinG | Ronin Senýnde ananýn Amýna Koyam Sonra Bacýnýda Ustune Koyamda SýKem oLurmu Lann Lameg |
| 11:22.29 | jm_ | but beware of editing it manually, that can cause issues with XFree86 and dpkg-reconfigure - /msg dpkg x md5 |
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| 11:22.36 | FabParma | Guerin: i ihave fully personalized my apps and os. to save just the data is uninportant |
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| 11:22.52 | Ronin | KinG: in case you havent caught on yet english would be nice |
| 11:23.02 | keir | jm_, i assume its xkb i need to configure,.... but there are loads of files for it, im not sure which one i need |
| 11:23.09 | keir | keir@debian:~$ ls /etc/X11/xkb/ |
| 11:23.09 | keir | README compat.dir keycodes rules types |
| 11:23.09 | keir | README.config compiled keycodes.dir semantics types.dir |
| 11:23.09 | keir | README.enhancing geometry keymap symbols xkbcomp |
| 11:23.09 | keir | compat geometry.dir keymap.dir symbols.dir |
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| 11:23.13 | KinG | ya ya ý`m Turkýsh |
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| 11:23.19 | ixion | I can see from the info that find -size xxx will find a file of that size, but how do you make it find files bigger? |
| 11:23.27 | jm_ | keir: xkb? no, XFree86 has an option called DontVTSwitch |
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| 11:23.32 | Guerin | FabParma: so back up your customisations only. You asked for the BEST way, not the way which suited yoour special case. |
| 11:23.33 | KinG | no speaK englýsh Ronin |
| 11:23.35 | jm_ | ixion: read info find, all of it |
| 11:23.36 | faber2 | -size +10K |
| 11:23.40 | Guerin | keir: don't fucking paste, you twat. |
| 11:23.48 | user0001 | anyway, thanks. I'll try again |
| 11:23.50 | s_ward | !tr |
| 11:23.50 | dpkg | trke yardm iin #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
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| 11:24.02 | keir | Guerin, sorry |
| 11:24.09 | jetx | user0001: http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstallerFAQ #28 |
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| 11:24.21 | snail | KinG: broken english is acceptable |
| 11:24.24 | KinG | Guerin: fuck you |
| 11:24.28 | user0001 | thank you |
| 11:24.30 | KinG | snail nO |
| 11:24.32 | Guerin | KinG: take a number |
| 11:24.36 | Ronin | funny how they always know those works |
| 11:24.40 | Ronin | umm words |
| 11:24.53 | htedrom | i think if you restart kde enough times, it fixes itself |
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| 11:25.17 | jetx | hmmm seems some d-i images have rescue as a boot: option? |
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| 11:25.24 | Guerin | jetx: not the ones i used |
| 11:25.59 | jetx | quote: If you have a version of the installer that is later than that released in sarge, proper rescue support is included, just boot the installer with "rescue" and follow the prompts until it mounts your hard disk and gives you a shell chrooted into your system. |
| 11:26.05 | Guerin | wtf |
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| 11:26.12 | KinG | Guerin ALL_RIGHT , I TOOK |
| 11:26.14 | jetx | guess it's the dailys |
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| 11:26.43 | Guerin | if there was ever any doubt that america was utterly and irrevocably fucked, http://www.americanrightsatwork.org/workersrights/eye7_2005.cfm is the proof |
| 11:26.43 | keir | jm_, where should i put that option? |
| 11:26.57 | Guerin | KinG: ok, now get in line. It's a long fucking line. |
| 11:27.00 | jm_ | keir: you first have to find if it still applies to X.org config file |
| 11:27.14 | kami268 | Hi i am using a Kontron embedded PC with a Geode CPU but i cant read out the cpu temperature?? |
| 11:27.14 | kami268 | can anyone help me or no a place where i can talk about this special systems? |
| 11:27.19 | user0001 | reading it... |
| 11:27.26 | htedrom | hey all, i'm trying to partition this free space, but cfdisk won't let me change the filesystem to linux |
| 11:27.26 | user0001 | let's see... |
| 11:27.29 | Guerin | by 'america' i mean 'the united states of america', clearly. |
| 11:27.40 | Ronin | Guerin: they killed happy hour here years ago, hell they hold bartenders responsible if i get tanked and drive home |
| 11:27.46 | Guerin | Ronin: wtf |
| 11:28.13 | htedrom | we're all fucked guerin |
| 11:28.21 | Ronin | but ya tellig folks who they can and cant talk to off work is well stupid |
| 11:28.24 | htedrom | it's just a question of when and how much we pay for it |
| 11:28.24 | jm_ | kami268: is this a laptop? |
| 11:28.27 | Guerin | htedrom: some more than others |
| 11:28.36 | user0001 | Thanks a lot: all the morning searching google and no useful info |
| 11:28.36 | jetx | htedrom: maybe unmount it... |
| 11:28.44 | kami268 | no this is an embedded board |
| 11:28.44 | KinG | Guerin : MY, *HOTMAÝL, ADDRESS, bulutumm@hotmail.com COME THERE |
| 11:28.52 | htedrom | haha hey, i'm canadian...if you go down, we're hot on your heels |
| 11:28.54 | user0001 | I'll try it |
| 11:28.55 | kami268 | everything on one platine |
| 11:28.58 | user0001 | Bye... |
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| 11:29.07 | jm_ | ahh well check if lm-sensors supports it |
| 11:29.08 | kami268 | but no display or anything else |
| 11:29.11 | Guerin | KinG: why? you're the one who wants to fuck ME |
| 11:29.13 | Ronin | looks like you have a new friend Guerin |
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| 11:29.33 | Guerin | my hotmail address is gofuckyourselfyoustupidtwat@hotmail.com |
| 11:29.33 | htedrom | jetx: it's not mounted |
| 11:29.36 | jetx | Guerin: ur sow seksi |
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| 11:30.15 | jetx | htedrom: then as root maybe |
| 11:30.18 | KinG | Guerin: ,ALL_RIGHT, YOU, FucK |
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| 11:30.33 | kombi | why on earth would a script run on shell but not with cron? |
| 11:30.43 | jetx | see? homeboy should already have been banned |
| 11:30.46 | htedrom | that was a exploration of the english language |
| 11:30.46 | kami268 | the problem is that Kontron give me module to read the tempareture but the problem is they are compiled on another kernel and there are no sources |
| 11:30.50 | Guerin | yeah, talk dirty, baby |
| 11:30.54 | htedrom | jetx: i'm root :( |
| 11:31.08 | kombi | file permissions are ok, cron is root's.. |
| 11:31.14 | htedrom | jetx: and another thing, every time i make a change and try to write it, it says it can't "re-read the table" and asks me to reboot |
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| 11:31.55 | liable | wtf |
| 11:31.59 | kombi | does cron run on a different runlevel or something? |
| 11:32.04 | jetx | htedrom: so did you ever? (reboot) |
| 11:32.10 | kombi | couldn't could it? |
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| 11:32.12 | htedrom | jetx: yep...3 times now |
| 11:32.27 | htedrom | but KDE messed up and sidetracked me |
| 11:32.37 | htedrom | it does the change when i reboot |
| 11:32.47 | htedrom | but i still can't change the fs type to ext |
| 11:32.53 | jetx | htedrom: are all the other partitions umounted, and/or is there an extended partition? |
| 11:33.13 | htedrom | er...yea there is another extended partition |
| 11:33.17 | jetx | you don't change it to ext in cfdisk, you just change it to 83(linux) iirc (or is it 82) |
| 11:33.19 | htedrom | you can only have one? |
| 11:33.39 | htedrom | oh...i figured 85 |
| 11:33.41 | htedrom | 82 is swap |
| 11:33.44 | jetx | you can have many logicals on one extended iirc |
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| 11:33.55 | liable | 85 is windows extended iirc |
| 11:33.56 | s_ward | kombi, is cron actually running? Check with `ps`; also, cron may not be able to find your script if you didn't give an absolute path, or it's not in its own search path |
| 11:34.00 | jetx | i forget. (don't like extended) |
| 11:34.08 | kami268 | jm_: still there? |
| 11:34.22 | KinG | _SerhaT_ ananýn Sýkýyým Konussana Lannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn pÝç Kusuru |
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| 11:34.26 | KinG | _SerhaT_ ananýn Sýkýyým Konussana Lannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn pÝç Kurusu |
| 11:34.38 | jm_ | kami268: yes |
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| 11:35.11 | Daknet | how can I conf gtk? |
| 11:35.17 | jetx | 4 primaries are more than enough for anybody! (see also 640k) |
| 11:35.19 | liable | KinG: go away please |
| 11:35.22 | htedrom | ok i played with cfdisk |
| 11:35.25 | htedrom | i'm gonna reboot |
| 11:35.25 | snail | Daknet: why do you need to configure gtk ? |
| 11:35.28 | htedrom | brb hopefully |
| 11:35.31 | htedrom | thanks jetx |
| 11:35.42 | kami268 | jm_: do you understand my problem? lm-sensors has got no support for this but i am searching for a place where people use this systems? |
| 11:35.43 | Guerin | liable: watch it, he might want a threesome |
| 11:35.55 | jetx | !ops KinG is annoying try /lastlog KinG |
| 11:35.55 | liable | weeeee |
| 11:35.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: KinG is annoying try /lastlog KinG |
| 11:36.02 | Daknet | I installed skype...its fonts are too great... |
| 11:36.04 | kombi | s_ward: let me check.. |
| 11:36.44 | kombi | s_ward: I seems to be running, another script executed fine.. |
| 11:37.35 | jetx | i nominate Guerin and jm_ for op status |
| 11:37.44 | Daknet | all fonts on my sys are good (sans 10). But skype has menus with font greater then 10px...why? |
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| 11:38.13 | jm_ | kami268: well if lm-sensors has no support for it, then you have to find something that does |
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| 11:38.24 | liable | hmm, we do seem to have a lack of ops lately.. |
| 11:38.33 | ixion | they are hiding |
| 11:38.41 | Guerin | liable: s/lately/permanently/ |
| 11:38.48 | s_ward | kombi, is the script executable? How are you telling cron to run it? |
| 11:38.51 | Daknet | I'm using gnome, but, from kde, I can change gtk style...it affect also the style of gnome... |
| 11:39.05 | Daknet | is this normal? |
| 11:39.06 | ixion | someone type ixion pls |
| 11:39.12 | liable | !give me ops |
| 11:39.12 | dpkg | give liable ops |
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| 11:39.18 | liable | bah |
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| 11:39.23 | jetx | gnome is like gtk based, kde is like qt based... so what do you expect |
| 11:39.24 | larsie | WoW! Great! I've got a swap partition on 62.5Mbytes!! |
| 11:39.24 | liable | didnt meen that |
| 11:39.25 | kombi | s_ward: script is 777, works when executed by hand. Crontab contains full path |
| 11:39.28 | ixion | !spank liable |
| 11:39.33 | ixion | heh |
| 11:39.39 | liable | excellent.. |
| 11:39.47 | larsie | !spank larsie |
| 11:39.51 | ixion | !kick liable |
| 11:39.58 | liable | I havent been spanked nearly enough lately :) |
| 11:39.59 | jetx | ya'll just go priv |
| 11:39.59 | ixion | weak |
| 11:40.01 | kami268 | jm_: do you know where i can find some people how can help me? |
| 11:40.26 | Daknet | so, can I change my skype look from gnome? |
| 11:40.26 | Xik0 | can i trust in torsmo memory results? I mean.. it's a lot difference from de top or cat /proc/meminfo |
| 11:40.46 | Daknet | or how can I change qt look? |
| 11:41.00 | jm_ | kami268: beats me, I have never heard of this thing before (I do remember reading about this once, probably some kernel related talk) |
| 11:41.05 | Guerin | the big rule about ops is that if you ask, you'll never recieve |
| 11:41.14 | Guerin | i don't want ops anyway |
| 11:41.23 | Guerin | too much authority for me to misuse |
| 11:41.29 | s_ward | kombi, I'm not sure at this point :/ Could it be cron attempting to run with sh, while your script has bash-isms in it? |
| 11:41.30 | jetx | right, therefore you get ops |
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| 11:41.36 | Guerin | hell, i'm already a schoolteacher, i already have far too much power |
| 11:41.36 | larsie | "and if you want' ye shall be @" |
| 11:41.40 | Guerin | nope |
| 11:42.05 | kombi | s_ward: that might be a good clue.. |
| 11:42.09 | liable | Guerin: I remeber doing a listkeys for ops, and there was that one, I asked dpkg and it told me to get fucked and tell someone who cares :) |
| 11:42.09 | ixion | liable: |
| 11:42.13 | liable | ixion: |
| 11:42.16 | ixion | ta |
| 11:42.23 | htedrom | hey jetx, i've got the partition, but when i try and mount it with mount -t auto it doesn't work..it wants me to specify the fs |
| 11:42.42 | kami268 | jm_: kernel related stuff is good because i have got a libaray file for this sensors but dont know how to use it |
| 11:42.42 | htedrom | jetx: i'm guessing -t Linux won't work |
| 11:42.44 | jetx | htedrom: you partitioned it. now you need to 'format' it |
| 11:42.51 | htedrom | ahhh ok |
| 11:42.54 | htedrom | right |
| 11:43.06 | jetx | htedrom: mke2fs -j /dev/hdblah forinstance, for ext3 |
| 11:43.11 | kombi | s_ward: when executed with cron the scipt throws "tar: child died with signal 13", which to my knowledge is some kind of access violation, but tar should perform the same under sh and bash... |
| 11:43.22 | liable | heh |
| 11:43.27 | liable | !i want ops |
| 11:43.28 | dpkg | Heh, fuck off and beg to someone who cares |
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| 11:43.40 | liable | ^^ thats the one.. |
| 11:43.55 | kofj | does vsftpd run as root ? |
| 11:44.15 | jm_ | kami268: libarray? |
| 11:44.16 | jetx | !i want guerin to have ops |
| 11:44.25 | jetx | :( |
| 11:44.31 | dimir | kombi: how do you execute it? |
| 11:44.36 | jetx | :p btw |
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| 11:44.48 | petemc | kofj: any app that lists on a port < 1024 must be root at least soeme of the time |
| 11:45.01 | kofj | thanks |
| 11:45.21 | kombi | dimir: /path/to/script.sh |
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| 11:46.40 | valmik | does apple powerbook tackpad works on linux ? |
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| 11:47.18 | liable | valmik: #debian-ppc |
| 11:47.29 | valmik | ok thanks |
| 11:47.40 | lunaphyte-work | i was having some trouble w/ a netinst of etch, and found a few comments saying use sarge, etch wasn't ready yet - but i was curious about installing sarge if i want to follow testing. |
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| 11:48.12 | kombi | dimir + s_ward: the strangest thing is, it works on the other debian boxes, just not this one |
| 11:48.17 | liable | lunaphyte-work: you were using an etch install cd? or official sarge? |
| 11:48.37 | ixion | !ping |
| 11:48.37 | dpkg | pong |
| 11:48.50 | kami268 | jm_: sorry libs :) |
| 11:48.54 | larsie | This is so f'king weird.. My debby refused to go on with 65.2Mbyte swap area, I decreased it, just for fun, to 62.5 and it worked! |
| 11:49.10 | liable | debby? |
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| 11:49.21 | ixion | like annie, only different |
| 11:49.36 | jm_ | kami268: what libs file is this? |
| 11:49.48 | htedrom | ok just one more Q and i think i'm done for the night...i want to mount /home, from now on, on my new partition...so i mount the new partition at /home in fstab, and move the existing home folder to the new partition..right? |
| 11:49.50 | larsie | Debby= female version of debian |
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| 11:50.19 | liable | htedrom: yes. |
| 11:50.19 | Guerin | htedrom: yeah |
| 11:50.19 | ixion | debian is a female |
| 11:50.25 | htedrom | sweet thanks guys |
| 11:50.32 | Guerin | htedrom: make sure all the dotfiles etc. get moved |
| 11:50.42 | Guerin | ixion: debian is an OS, OSen don't have gender |
| 11:50.44 | htedrom | k |
| 11:51.05 | ixion | OSes |
| 11:51.07 | Guerin | and even if debian HAD a gender, it'd be hermaphroditic, since it's named after and created by a man AND a woman |
| 11:51.11 | Guerin | OSen |
| 11:51.16 | ixion | OSes |
| 11:51.27 | liable | whatever... |
| 11:51.29 | ixion | :) |
| 11:51.29 | Guerin | i bet you say 'boxes' too |
| 11:51.38 | ixion | if its a female box, yes |
| 11:51.40 | ixion | boxess |
| 11:51.57 | Guerin | ... |
| 11:51.59 | lunaphyte-work | liable: i was using en etch netinstall cd (debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso) |
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| 11:53.06 | Matt138 | hey i just installed debian 3.1 and when the computer loads it loads up in a commandline instead of a GUI, how do i get the gui? |
| 11:53.39 | liable | lunaphyte-work: right which is testing.. file a bug to the devs.. |
| 11:53.43 | Guerin | Matt138: run tasksel and install 'desktop' |
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| 11:54.05 | lewwy | hello guys |
| 11:54.07 | Matt138 | how do i do that? |
| 11:54.11 | Guerin | Matt138: or if you want something a bit more custom, run from a root shell: aptitude install x-window-system xfce4 |
| 11:54.11 | liable | Matt138: as root |
| 11:54.12 | lunaphyte-work | liable: bug filed - that's where i read the comment 'use sarge installer' |
| 11:54.19 | Guerin | Matt138: from your command line |
| 11:54.23 | Guerin | Matt138: as root |
| 11:54.31 | Matt138 | i mean what do i type, i'm new to this |
| 11:54.40 | Guerin | Matt138: tasksel |
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| 11:54.49 | lewwy | I am considering purchasing a new system, however the question of whether to get 32bit or 64bit looms. I use windows too. What should I go? |
| 11:54.53 | Guerin | Matt138: or aptitude install x-window-system xfce4 |
| 11:54.57 | Guerin | your choice |
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| 11:55.07 | Guerin | if you have slow internet i suggest the latter |
| 11:55.35 | liable | Matt138: why didnt you just install it to start with? log in as root, type ..tasksel.. pick desktop. |
| 11:55.38 | s_ward | kombi, different versions of bash, cron, etc? (be back in a bit) |
| 11:55.38 | lunaphyte-work | which is fine, but i was curious about switching to testing after installing sarge, and how all of the existing stable packages from the install would be handled |
| 11:56.06 | Matt138 | i thought i did, infact i'm sure i picked desktop |
| 11:56.09 | liable | lunaphyte-work: just change your sources, update, upgrade.. |
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| 11:56.15 | Matt138 | but it has a star next to mail server here |
| 11:56.39 | lewwy | I am considering purchasing a new system, however the question of whether to get 32bit or 64bit looms. I use windows too. What should I go? |
| 11:56.39 | liable | Matt138: yes press spacebar next to desktop. |
| 11:56.49 | Matt138 | ah |
| 11:57.00 | Matt138 | that explains a lot |
| 11:57.12 | Matt138 | i didn't push space, thanks a lot:) |
| 11:57.17 | larsie | :D |
| 11:57.26 | Matt138 | i hate being a noob |
| 11:57.32 | larsie | Nah |
| 11:57.38 | Guerin | Matt138: it's a temporary condition, and curable |
| 11:57.40 | Covener | Recently I've noticed my gtk2 apps don't have my AA settings applied unless gnome-settings-daemon is running :/ Fontconfig is configured correctly and my .gtkrc-2.0 doesn't do much more than set gtk-font-name -- am I missing something? If I run any of the gnome-control-center tools gnome-settings-daemon is then running in the BG and my fonts/AA stuff change. |
| 11:57.48 | Matt138 | lol |
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| 11:58.10 | lunaphyte-work | liable: thanks. |
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| 11:59.53 | snadge | can someone maybe briefly explain libaspell15 and libaspell15c2 situation? more specifically why both are installable now :) |
| 12:00.11 | ttick | anyone know if etch's default exim4 includes TLS (transport layer security) support? the exim-tls package seems to be missing. |
| 12:00.13 | liable | what do we win? |
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| 12:01.03 | jetx | i yawned and i stretched, and it really felt good, until i hit the ceiling fan :/ |
| 12:01.23 | liable | snadge: if you are running sid, then maybe you should read the topic.. |
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| 12:01.49 | jetx | ah btw ctrl alt Fx does work in sarge/xorg |
| 12:02.04 | kipperleopnh | vs |
| 12:02.10 | snadge | liable, i've been aware of this for weeks now.. previously the conflicting aspell packages conflicted though.. now they're allowed to coexist? |
| 12:02.12 | jetx | iirc that's settable though |
| 12:02.18 | kipperleopnh | reeeeeeeeeeee |
| 12:02.38 | kipperleopnh | zsddddddddddd |
| 12:02.46 | Guerin | snadge: apparently so |
| 12:02.56 | Guerin | snadge: perhaps they occupy different namespace now? |
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| 12:03.24 | snadge | the c2 one is 40k, the plain one is 690kb.. hmm |
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| 12:03.30 | liable | snadge: its sid, going through a fairly large transition, shit is broken/uninstallable. deal with it.. |
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| 12:03.42 | |Trev1 | ok - sarge - audo works fine via kde test sound.. kplayer works .. music cds I cannot get to play.. trying xmms.. is there something else I should use ? |
| 12:03.43 | Guerin | snadge: sounds like the c2 is a dummy package |
| 12:03.56 | kombi | man apt-get |
| 12:03.57 | Guerin | snadge: you could veify this quite trivially |
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| 12:04.15 | Rama | hello ! Has anyone ever experienced a problem with what looks like a stuck key, but is not, beginning at boottime after USB initialisation ? |
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| 12:05.07 | Guerin | |Trev1: remove the | from your nick |
| 12:05.09 | snadge | guerin: yes.. libaspell15 is a dummy package.. its interesting that someone suggested that as a fix weeks ago, and got screamed at for it |
| 12:05.22 | snail | Rama: sounds like you've autodetected the wrong kind of mouse/keyboard |
| 12:05.24 | dimir | or else.. |
| 12:05.26 | dimir | :-P |
| 12:05.29 | Guerin | |Trev1: tell xmms to use the arts output plugin or use a kde player or kill arts altogether |
| 12:05.31 | Laibsch | It appears I hve some problem with my kernel sources. I cannot compile as a normal user who is member of the group src. Is it normal that everything under /usr/src/linux should be owned by root.root? I thought it should be root.src. But it appears root.root is also set in the tarball. :-$ |
| 12:05.36 | |Trev1 | ok |
| 12:05.37 | Guerin | snadge: oh really |
| 12:05.39 | netmask | good morning! I'm trying to install debian on a sun ultra5 (sparc64) using the network method, but I couldn't find the correct floppy image to do the basic boot... in ftp there is only ine 5MB img file... anyone can help? |
| 12:05.51 | snail | Rama: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 12:06.36 | Guerin | Laibsch: not dfebian kernel sources? |
| 12:06.39 | Guerin | s/f// |
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| 12:07.04 | Rama | snail: now it occures to me that there are a mouse and a keyboard plugged in (it's a laptop) :p |
| 12:07.13 | Laibsch | Guerin: I think they are official debian sources. They have a debian dir. |
| 12:07.18 | Rama | snail: trying to reboot without the external keyboard... |
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| 12:07.45 | snadge | guerin: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=318182 |
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| 12:08.00 | liable | !tell netmask about sarge bootfloppies |
| 12:08.20 | liable | gah, mandriva |
| 12:08.39 | Rama | snail: OK, that was it. c(_) <----- this is the beer I owe you :p |
| 12:08.41 | Laibsch | Guerin: The name of the tarball is kernel-source-2.4.26.tar.bz2. I can get you an md5 if you want. I think I usually stick with debian sources. |
| 12:08.47 | snadge | ahh, the suggested fix was to say that the package libaspell15c2 proviles libaspell15, this is different to having a dummy package how? |
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| 12:09.18 | dimir | hey |
| 12:09.22 | allgood | can somebody help me with pppd? |
| 12:09.31 | liable | Laibsch: how are you trying to compile it? |
| 12:09.36 | allgood | I use pty, persist and maxfail 0 options... |
| 12:09.47 | liable | allgood: more info.. |
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| 12:09.53 | allgood | if the link goes down for more than 4 hours, it stops from retrying |
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| 12:10.05 | allgood | pppd[14478]: Couldn't allocate pseudo-tty |
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| 12:10.25 | allgood | seens like that on retry it doesn't free the used pty and tries to allocate another |
| 12:10.47 | htedrom | getting something to work the way i want it to in linux gives me sexual pleasure |
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| 12:11.07 | sleon|work | hi |
| 12:11.10 | liable | Laibsch: hmm, you compiling a vanilla kernel? |
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| 12:11.23 | sleon|work | is there a 2.6 kernel which supports megaraid 320 ? |
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| 12:11.49 | liable | sleon|work: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 12:11.52 | Laibsch | liable: ATM I did just a make menuconfig which complains that it cannot "rm -f include/asm" which is no wonder since the include dir is owned by root.root and set to 644. |
| 12:12.13 | Laibsch | liable: Pretty much vanilla. What do you mean? The source if from debian. |
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| 12:13.31 | liable | Laibsch: your running menuconfig as? |
| 12:13.50 | Laibsch | a normal user with group src |
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| 12:16.06 | Laibsch | I guess I could fix this for now by "chown -R root.src /usr/src/linux" but I am surprised the official sources come with ownership root.root or don't they? |
| 12:16.15 | liable | Laibsch: ls -l /usr/src |
| 12:16.20 | sleon|work | liable, thx, it is not sata though :) |
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| 12:17.36 | liable | sleon|work: oh, sorry, should still be sorta relevent. sata works, ata should :) |
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| 12:18.31 | Laibsch | liable: I do not think this will help. The problem starts one dir level deeper. Anyway, here it comes. I left out stuff unrelated to the kernel sources. |
| 12:18.44 | Laibsch | liable: lrwxrwxrwx 1 leggewie leggewie 20 Aug 4 13:54 linux -> kernel-source-2.4.26 |
| 12:18.45 | soar | exit |
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| 12:18.56 | terpstra | does anyone know of a pam plugin which connects to a pam proxy daemon? so that, for instance, apache2 can check a password without needing shadow access (ie: forward login check to the daemon/proxy)? |
| 12:19.06 | Laibsch | liable: drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Jul 22 06:22 kernel-source-2.4.26 |
| 12:20.04 | Laibsch | liable: I think the following is much more interesting. |
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| 12:22.15 | liable | Laibsch: how did you download it? apt-get or with a browser? |
| 12:22.32 | Laibsch | liable: apt-get |
| 12:22.47 | jak | hello everybody. ive just deleted my half /var/lib (dont ask :)... now i want to fix my system, but apt-get dist-upgrade says, that some files to some packages are missing and it assumes, that this package wasnt installed. how to make apt to reinstall all packages with broken files? THX!! |
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| 12:23.30 | Laibsch | liable: No offense. But I think you are heading down the wrong path. May I ask you to get the debian sources and see via "tar -tvjf" if they also have ownership of root.root? |
| 12:23.35 | tarzeau | jak: how? why? |
| 12:23.44 | Laibsch | liable: That is what is strange. |
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| 12:23.45 | tarzeau | jak: that's like making chmod -R 666 / |
| 12:23.59 | jak | tarzeau: i know... |
| 12:24.04 | tarzeau | jak: backup? |
| 12:24.06 | Guerin | !lost var |
| 12:24.06 | dpkg | i heard lost var is so you nuked /var? never fear, 'tis but a flesh wound! See http://linux.sys-con.com/read/32607.htm?CFID=133431 |
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| 12:24.46 | tarzeau | has someone recently tried hurd or kfreebsd? |
| 12:24.51 | Guerin | nope |
| 12:24.59 | Guerin | been meaning to do hurd, but skool has been out |
| 12:25.08 | liable | Laibsch: I have 3 debian sources and 2 non, and they have root root (that I downloaded from a browser) or root src from apt-get |
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| 12:25.56 | Laibsch | liable: Thanks for checking. I'll just delete the source and redownload it and see what it looks like. bbl. |
| 12:26.18 | cbr | if my kde is compiled with gcc 3.3, do i have to compile a theme with gcc 3.3 too? |
| 12:26.23 | redcliffe | hi - i'm setting up a new debian box using the latest debian installer netinst snapshot - just wondering how to partition my drives to use with LVM |
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| 12:27.03 | redcliffe | when i go into configure logical volume manager it won't let me create physical volumes - it says i have no physical partitions |
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| 12:27.34 | jak | anybody knows how to tell apt to reinstall packages which have missing files? |
| 12:28.07 | egil_ | hello |
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| 12:28.13 | nkuttler | jak: install --reinstall, dpkg --force-help |
| 12:28.23 | jak | nkuttler: ok, thx |
| 12:28.41 | jak | stupid question, i found it in the man page of apt-get... |
| 12:28.45 | jak | sorry :) |
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| 12:32.29 | Matt138 | debian configuration is asking for my video card's bus identifier...but my motherboard is by a bankrupt company and theres no online documentation so i can't find it...what can i put?lol |
| 12:32.39 | sep | Matt138, leave emthy |
| 12:32.45 | sep | Matt138, unless you have multiple gfx cards |
| 12:32.49 | cbr | how can i switch to gcc-3.3 when i'm in sid? |
| 12:32.53 | cbr | so that 3.3 would be default |
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| 12:33.04 | sep | Matt138, and if you have multiple cards you can find it by lspci -X |
| 12:33.06 | Matt138 | ok |
| 12:33.06 | Lumination | hey... I'm not sure what channel this pertains to, so I'm asking it in all channels I think I could get help from... I'm using etch with ALSA, and yesterday, my ALSA mixer just disappeared... I'm sure something changed, but I know I didn't do anything directly to the sound system, so something indirect must have happened... does anyone have any ideas why this may have occurred? |
| 12:33.28 | sep | Lumination, realy in _all_ channels ? |
| 12:33.45 | liable | Laibsch: actually, I dunno if I can make sense of my sources or images, I cant be sure why some are different.. |
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| 12:34.06 | Lumination | sep: yes... every single one... |
| 12:34.08 | Lumination | lol |
| 12:34.09 | Laibsch | liable: I'll just see. |
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| 12:34.19 | Lumination | just #alsa, #debian, and #kde (because I'm using k) |
| 12:34.22 | sep | Lumination, tried runnig alsamixer from a term and look for errors ? |
| 12:34.29 | Lumination | lemme check |
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| 12:35.17 | Lumination | okay... I have access to alsamixer from root, but from my normal user account that I could access it with up until now I get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Permission denied" |
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| 12:36.15 | sep | Lumination, and yur user is in the audio group ? |
| 12:36.29 | liable | Laibsch: hmm, actually my source can be root root, but the link is root src.. |
| 12:36.30 | ttick | okay, so why is it that in the configuration for exim4 when I select "don't split-up my files" it still leaves me with directories with configuration files in them, and no monolithic file? |
| 12:36.36 | Lumination | ahhhh... I did mess with my users for a squid installation.. lemme check that |
| 12:36.47 | Laibsch | liable: The link does not matter much. |
| 12:37.24 | Laibsch | @All: Are debian kernel sources distributed with ownership root.root or root.src? |
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| 12:37.38 | liable | Laibsch: /j #flood and you can see my mess..\ |
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| 12:38.13 | Lumination | sep: how do you list the groups a user is in from command line? usermod I think but I don't know how to "query" a user (for lack of a better term) |
| 12:38.24 | Laibsch | liable: Go ahead |
| 12:38.27 | peterS | Lumination: id |
| 12:38.52 | sep | Lumination, you mean something like getent group audio |
| 12:39.01 | Lumination | k |
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| 12:39.14 | Lumination | lol no users in group heh... |
| 12:39.16 | peterS | sep: that's the converse of what he asked |
| 12:39.30 | Lumination | okay so how to I just append a group to my user instead of replacing all of the ones I'm currently in with audio? |
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| 12:39.42 | zinx | Lumination: id user |
| 12:39.57 | sep | peterS, hm right you are |
| 12:39.59 | peterS | Lumination: adduser yourself audio |
| 12:40.06 | Lumination | k |
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| 12:40.24 | Lumination | uid=1000(anthony) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),29(audio),1002(smb) |
| 12:40.25 | Lumination | sweet |
| 12:40.30 | peterS | an unintuitive invocation of adduser, to be sure, since it normally, you know, creates users |
| 12:40.44 | peterS | Lumination: log out / log in for this to take effect, btw |
| 12:41.03 | sep | peterS, type addgroup instead then |
| 12:41.06 | jm_ | or use newgrp |
| 12:41.27 | Lumination | okay |
| 12:41.28 | Lumination | thanks |
| 12:41.31 | cbr | how can i switch to gcc-3.3 while in sid? |
| 12:41.46 | peterS | cbr: aptitude install gcc-3.3; export CC=gcc-3.3 |
| 12:41.48 | Lumination | thanks for all of your help guys. |
| 12:42.22 | peterS | cbr: or export CXX=g++-3.3 if that's what you had in mind |
| 12:42.24 | cbr | peterS: the variable does the trick? |
| 12:42.35 | peterS | cbr: it does for most 'configure' scripts. it doesn't for bald Makefiles |
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| 12:43.31 | cbr | peterS: can i run make with it though? |
| 12:43.36 | cbr | will it work? |
| 12:43.44 | peterS | cbr: what I said |
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| 12:43.59 | cbr | no? |
| 12:44.00 | peterS | cbr: most configure scripts will recognise a CC environment variable and arrange to pass it on into the makefile |
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| 12:44.11 | Lumination | nice |
| 12:44.15 | Lumination | worked like a charm (of course ;) |
| 12:44.23 | Lumination | now I have my electro and breaks again hehe |
| 12:44.28 | peterS | cbr: if you don't run a configure script, of course, this won't happen. then CC will normally not override the makefile's own notions |
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| 12:45.06 | cbr | okay, thanks |
| 12:45.23 | peterS | cbr: you can (almost) always override Makefile variables on the 'make' commane line. so like 'make CC=gcc-3.3 ...' |
| 12:45.40 | peterS | cbr: but note that some projects are happier with you directly overriding CC like this than others |
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| 12:46.40 | tiresias | hi all |
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| 12:47.23 | tiresias | anyone knows in which unstable package is the file `/usr/include/X11/extensions/xf86misc.h` ? |
| 12:47.41 | peterS | tiresias: /msg dpkg find X11/extensions/xf86misc.h |
| 12:47.42 | larsie | Does 'unexpected PTL reloc by 0x6f8' say anything to you? |
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| 12:47.52 | larsie | I've tried 6 times to install debian on my computer, but no good results. |
| 12:48.00 | liable | Laibsch: see what I mean? |
| 12:48.08 | tiresias | petemc, thx |
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| 12:48.40 | peterS | tiresias: guessing it'll be libxxf86misc-dev, but check and see |
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| 12:49.05 | Laibsch | liable: looks like a big mess indeed ;-) And I think you tinkered so I cannot draw any conclusions. |
| 12:49.16 | liable | larsie: is this brand new sort of hardware? |
| 12:49.24 | larsie | No. Old one. |
| 12:49.32 | larsie | P-III 700. iNtel 815 chipset |
| 12:49.47 | Laibsch | I wish http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kernel-source-2.4.26&version=testing&arch=all listed the ownership of the files as well. |
| 12:49.48 | larsie | I don't see if that's matter. Linux is the choice of the poor student ^^ |
| 12:50.10 | liable | Laibsch: yeah, I dont know why the perms are different on some files than others.. |
| 12:50.17 | robbie_ | does anyone know of any co-hosting places in sydney australia that are under $100? I have a tower |
| 12:50.31 | Laibsch | larsie: No. Linux is the choice of the smart, capable of independent thinking (!) student |
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| 12:50.42 | peterS | Laibsch: also the choice of a lot of stupid people |
| 12:50.44 | liable | Laibsch: but its the same issue you are facing, obviously.. |
| 12:50.53 | tiresias | petemc, it's weird, it's in xlibs-static-dev. That package is installed and I do not have the file... |
| 12:51.06 | CAiRO | if i want to move a software raid to another computer, do i have to pay attention to anything special or just move the drives and that's it? |
| 12:51.08 | gnetux | Hi evryone |
| 12:51.19 | sep | CAiRO, remember to take backups first |
| 12:51.24 | peterS | tiresias: have you got the latest of everything? xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4 was released not too long ago, and it moved a few things around |
| 12:51.28 | liable | Laibsch: I hadnt ever really looked untill you said about it, I config and make as root, so no probs.. |
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| 12:51.47 | Laibsch | liable: I think that is discouraged. |
| 12:52.01 | liable | Laibsch: yeah, whatever :P |
| 12:52.02 | tiresias | petemc, i still am under xfree86 |
| 12:52.17 | gnetux | anybody know how to install flash plugin? |
| 12:52.34 | peterS | tiresias: oh so you aren't running unstable. then /msg dpkg find X11/extensions/xf86misc.h sarge |
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| 12:53.13 | liable | Laibsch: anyway, config as root cant really be an issue.. |
| 12:53.14 | s_ward | gnetux, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 12:53.24 | tiresias | peterS, yes I am, but I will switch to Xorg |
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| 12:54.09 | Laibsch | liable: that only make the problem appear later. |
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| 12:54.19 | redcliffe | hi - i'm having problems with debian-installer and lvm |
| 12:54.22 | gnetux | s_ward:apt-get acnnot find it |
| 12:54.36 | redcliffe | when it lilo's the drive it fails to load the bootloader |
| 12:54.50 | redcliffe | error seems to be "Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?" |
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| 12:55.19 | liable | Laibsch: cool, make sure you come back and tell me how you fixed it :) |
| 12:55.21 | s_ward | gnetux, sorry, only appears to be in unstable, you're running sarge I assume? |
| 12:56.01 | liable | Laibsch: even if you are in src group, doesnt mean you can compile.. |
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| 12:56.16 | s_ward | gnetux, nope, it's definitely there |
| 12:56.22 | s_ward | gnetux, it's in non-free, btw |
| 12:56.25 | redcliffe | anyone know how to deal with that? |
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| 12:56.35 | s_ward | gnetux, contrib, even |
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| 12:57.22 | gnetux | s_ward:yes that's right sarge |
| 12:57.30 | maketo | does anyone know how to find out if a file is open using the O_DIRECT flag? I tried lsof +f g but it seems to not work on /proc based systems |
| 12:57.50 | Laibsch | liable: I am pretty sure a "chown -R root.src /usr/src/linux" will "fix" the problem |
| 12:57.50 | Laibsch | ... until the next time you update your kernel sources. That is why I am here, to understand the _underlying_ problem if there is one. |
| 12:57.56 | gnetux | s_ward:so what should i do? |
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| 12:58.23 | noclue | anyone use torsmo? |
| 12:58.26 | greycat | maketo: well... if you can reinvoke the program in question, you could strace it to see what args it passes to open() |
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| 12:58.41 | JZA | hi can anyone help me with the use of wget |
| 12:58.42 | maketo | greycat : it is oracle |
| 12:58.55 | maketo | greycat : it claims it is using O_DIRECT but I would liek to know |
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| 12:59.00 | liable | Laibsch: yeah, but you will have to use fakeroot for compile.. |
| 12:59.02 | JZA | I want to download all the content from a site starting with the folder, but the site just download the index.html ... how can I also include the linked files |
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| 12:59.08 | sep | JZA, man wget |
| 12:59.09 | greycat | maketo: still, if you can make it reopen the file at will, you can strace it during that time period and see |
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| 12:59.32 | Trev_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:59.44 | liable | Laibsch: but, why is the perms root root to start with, thats the big question :) |
| 12:59.47 | maketo | greycat: I think the only way to do that is to bring the database instance down and start up again _ have thought of this but can't do it - production system :( |
| 12:59.55 | maketo | greycat: any other way? |
| 12:59.59 | greycat | none I know of |
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| 13:00.15 | maketo | uhh thanks anyways |
| 13:00.37 | JZA | sep I read/try some but they dont seem to do what I want, I want to download the whole structure of a website and it just downlaod the index.html |
| 13:00.50 | greycat | JZA: man wget *harder* |
| 13:01.00 | greycat | hint: search for "recurs" |
| 13:01.11 | ttick | Okay, I'm trying to set up SMTP-AUTH on exim4 and for it to use /etc/shadow for authentication. I've commented out the lines in the exim.conf.template file that seem to corrispond to plain_saslauthd_server: and login_saslauthd_server: (as per the instructions in the readme) but I'm saying ELHO to the server and it doesn't give me any AUTHs back. Any suggestions? |
| 13:01.16 | sep | JZA, man wget. search for recursive |
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| 13:01.37 | s_ward | gnetux, it's there in sarge, make sure you have "contrib" listed in the deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:01.58 | abrotman | gnetux: you're still here? |
| 13:02.00 | s_ward | gnetux, do an apt-get update before trying to find the package |
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| 13:02.17 | greycat | or "recursion", which is also present in this case |
| 13:02.43 | gnetux | i have done,i just downloaded the package from debian.org |
| 13:02.57 | gnetux | dpkg -i it |
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| 13:03.20 | liable | ouch |
| 13:03.22 | s_ward | hehe |
| 13:03.27 | gnetux | abrotman:hi |
| 13:04.05 | Lumination | hey I'm getting no help at #squid... anybody know anything about the squid server? |
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| 13:04.15 | jm_ | Lumination: /msg dpkg anyone |
| 13:04.23 | Lumination | k |
| 13:04.23 | greycat | !ask |
| 13:04.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:04.33 | peterS | !they don't know |
| 13:04.33 | dpkg | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 13:04.39 | Lumination | lol |
| 13:04.40 | Lumination | nice |
| 13:04.55 | Lumination | okay... so here's my question: I'm having some trouble accessing my squid server from outside localhost... is there a configuration directive I'm missing? |
| 13:05.01 | jm_ | yes |
| 13:05.09 | jm_ | re-check ACL section |
| 13:05.13 | greycat | no wonder they didn't answer you |
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| 13:05.25 | Lumination | hehe |
| 13:05.56 | greycat | no version info given. no config file snippets given. no logfile messages given. no precise symptom given. |
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| 13:06.29 | larsie | "could be anything" |
| 13:06.35 | greycat | 42 |
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| 13:06.51 | tralala | yeah, 42 is good enough |
| 13:07.01 | larsie | heh |
| 13:07.09 | tralala | even more - it is correct! |
| 13:08.43 | mkl1525 | HI! I need to recomplie apache2 mpm-prefork to raise the ServerLimit definition above 256 childs, what would be the best way to do this (without breaking the debian package concept) or are there already packages that have the limit raised? |
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| 13:09.06 | jm_ | mkl1525: debian source package |
| 13:09.13 | greycat | mkl1525: /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 13:10.04 | Matt138 | the debian installation is saying "rebuilding the database. This may take some time" but it doesn't appear to be doing much, how do i know when its finnished? |
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| 13:10.58 | liable | Matt138: has it finished now? |
| 13:11.13 | tralala | Matt138: when you get the prompt back, you will know it's done |
| 13:11.25 | liable | Matt138: has it finished now? |
| 13:11.26 | Matt138 | well i can type now |
| 13:11.35 | Matt138 | thats the prompt back isn't it? |
| 13:11.39 | tralala | it has finished then |
| 13:11.42 | Matt138 | oh ok |
| 13:11.50 | Technel | What is the command to search for apt-get programs again? |
| 13:12.00 | larsie | apt-cache search |
| 13:12.03 | azreal | Matt138: being able to type doesnt mean there is a prompt yet. |
| 13:12.09 | s_ward | Technel, /msg dpkg search -- tells all |
| 13:12.16 | Technel | Thanks |
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| 13:14.01 | Trev_ | Is there a place for Sarge Feedback ? where I could mail developers or project folk and give feedback on Sarge ? |
| 13:14.30 | LSorensen | Trev_: what kind of feedback? |
| 13:14.43 | Trev_ | Just overall feedback on the OS.. the project as a whole.. ect.. |
| 13:14.58 | Trev_ | good feedback if that is what you mean =) |
| 13:14.59 | tralala | Trev_: /msg dpkg bts |
| 13:15.10 | greycat | Trev_: probably the mailing lists |
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| 13:15.22 | cytomatrix | hi |
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| 13:15.24 | cytomatrix | Why does debian have 14 iso images? |
| 13:15.30 | cytomatrix | Do i need all of them? |
| 13:15.31 | Trev_ | I figured mailing lists../shrug.. just did not want to overlook something obvious =) |
| 13:15.36 | greycat | because 13 wasn't enough |
| 13:15.40 | jelly | cytomatrix: cause it's BIG! |
| 13:15.44 | cytomatrix | oh ok |
| 13:15.48 | greycat | !install |
| 13:15.48 | dpkg | hmm... install is To test sarge (upcoming Debian 3.1) see <http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/>. For woody (Debian 3.0), see http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html or the official guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/woody - see the tips at http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/tips or http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 13:16.04 | greycat | out of date factoid :( |
| 13:16.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg should be told Sarge isnt test anymore :( |
| 13:16.21 | cytomatrix | Do i need all of them to install debian? |
| 13:16.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | you need 1 |
| 13:16.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | for best effect 4 |
| 13:16.39 | cytomatrix | k |
| 13:16.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | i have all 14 ;) |
| 13:16.45 | cytomatrix | lol |
| 13:16.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | and the 2 dvds :D |
| 13:16.48 | azreal | cytomatrix: no, you just need the first one, or an even smaller netinst iso, read the docs. |
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| 13:17.22 | Lumination | is there possibly a list of common services to linux and what purpose they serve? |
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| 13:17.26 | ttick | Hmm, I wish dpkg would reply to me when it doesn't know anything about a topic. |
| 13:17.36 | bartden | hi, does anyone know a mp3 player in console ?? |
| 13:17.39 | jm_ | ttick: it doesn't do that anymore |
| 13:17.45 | ttick | anyone know if exim-heavy is deprecated? |
| 13:17.48 | jm_ | bartden: /msg dpkg anyone |
| 13:17.49 | mkl1525 | jm_, greycat thanks will have a look |
| 13:18.01 | ttick | jm_: yeah, the silent failure is kinda frustrating. |
| 13:18.05 | azreal | ttick: yeah, i miss that too. |
| 13:18.22 | ttick | Okay, I'm trying to set up SMTP-AUTH on exim4 and for it to use /etc/shadow for authentication. I've commented out the lines in the exim.conf.template file that seem to corrispond to plain_saslauthd_server: and login_saslauthd_server: (as per the instructions in the readme) but I'm saying ELHO to the server and it doesn't give me any AUTHs back. Any suggestions? |
| 13:19.24 | ttick | google has a lot of references to exim-heavy, but it doesn't seem to be in the apt reps. Wondering if it's deprecated and just included in exim-base. |
| 13:19.32 | greycat | Lumination: /etc/services is rather "complete", but it's just suggested port numbers. Not enforced. |
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| 13:19.48 | jm_ | it's called exim4-daemon-heavy |
| 13:19.52 | greycat | bartden: mpg321 |
| 13:19.53 | Lumination | greycat: k thanks |
| 13:19.56 | tralala | bartden: mpg123 or mpg321 |
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| 13:20.01 | ttick | jm_ okay, I'll check that out. |
| 13:20.40 | ttick | jm_: maybe that's why my config options don't seem to be changing much -- though it would be nice if it told me TLS wasn't supported in the current daemon. |
| 13:21.11 | Lumination | I was looking more for some stuff I can have take away from the runlev 2 and free up some ram |
| 13:21.23 | jm_ | ttick: read package description |
| 13:21.28 | ralf | !lkh |
| 13:21.29 | dpkg | hello\n |
| 13:21.40 | ralf | !l-k-h |
| 13:21.41 | jm_ | ttick: light has TLS support, not not AUTH support it seems |
| 13:21.56 | ttick | jm_: ah. hmm. strange. okay. |
| 13:21.57 | peterS | ralf: what do you want to know about linux-kernel-headers? |
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| 13:23.00 | Matthew_I | cokecan: I left you yesteday |
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| 13:23.07 | Matthew_I | cokecan: but you are probably not even around to read that |
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| 13:24.11 | ttick | jm_: grr. Still no "AUTH" after I EHLO the server. Am I missing some test condition here? |
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| 13:24.40 | ttick | jm_: sorry, wasn't really directed at you. unless you're keeping this secret from me, then it was. ;) |
| 13:24.50 | dsa | hi i have hardly any knowledge of linux someone setup a server for me almost a year ago and i just switched ISPs and network confirguation is different now, im unable to connect this linux debain server to the rest of the network 'packet log: INPUT DENY' keeps showing up - can anyone help? |
| 13:25.35 | jm_ | ttick: naah, I am not familiar with this |
| 13:25.42 | stew | dsa: that someone setup a firewall script somewhere that needs to be altered |
| 13:25.42 | dsa | how can i disable or configure this firewall |
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| 13:26.14 | dsa | i remember something of firewall.sh is there anyway i can undo all the things it has performed? |
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| 13:26.29 | SnuS | hello. How can I mount an ext3 partition read-only, from fstab ? |
| 13:26.38 | peterS | SnuS: put 'ro' in the options field |
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| 13:26.47 | peterS | SnuS: which is the fourth column |
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| 13:26.52 | SnuS | defaults,ro ? |
| 13:26.59 | SnuS | or "ro" instead of defaults ? |
| 13:27.02 | sep | dsa: frankly i'd think it would be easier to reconfigure your router to use the same ip numbering scheme as you used before. but if you intend to re number your debian the op config is in /etc/network/interfaces. and you also need to edit your firewall script to match the new ip series. and then restart the networking and firewall (do a reboot if you dont know how) |
| 13:27.05 | peterS | SnuS: 'defaults' is just a placeholder meaning 'no options', so you can omit it if you actually do have an option |
| 13:27.31 | ttick | jm_: okay, thanks anyway. |
| 13:27.53 | sep | dsa, and if you have services bound to spesific ip addresses those must be changed too. (unlikly but not rare) |
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| 13:28.09 | Maneiten | Hi. How can I check how much RAM I've got installed from linux/debian? |
| 13:28.15 | dsa | ok |
| 13:28.18 | greycat | Maneiten: free |
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| 13:28.31 | greycat | (or dmesg, top, etc. |
| 13:28.31 | Lumination | does debian setup any default cron or atd jobs at install? |
| 13:28.39 | greycat | Lumination: cat /etc/crontab |
| 13:28.39 | sep | dsa, so chaing the lan ip series of your broadband router is perhaps a much easier feat |
| 13:28.43 | Lumination | thanks |
| 13:28.46 | Maneiten | greycat: right.. thanks :) |
| 13:29.06 | dsa | someone should be in to do this server from scratchsoon it hasnt been reall touched for over 6 months |
| 13:29.14 | SnuS | peterS so /dev/hdb1 /mnt/mp3/mp31 ext3 defaults 0 0 ? |
| 13:29.17 | dsa | thanks |
| 13:29.25 | Lumination | at jobs are in crontab as well? |
| 13:29.34 | peterS | SnuS: yeah except "ro" instead of "defaults" |
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| 13:29.48 | SnuS | grr. that's what I ment :) |
| 13:29.56 | peterS | Lumination: no, cron and at are separate systems these days |
| 13:30.07 | peterS | Lumination: they were the same daemon on old Unixes but not on modern Linux |
| 13:30.14 | ailas | some python skilled man here? need to reload one python script from terminal if i could ... |
| 13:30.23 | ailas | if there is some command for python |
| 13:30.32 | Lumination | k |
| 13:30.36 | ailas | kill -2 doesn't work |
| 13:30.41 | Matt138 | i just got a message saying GDM is probably configured wrong and to restart it once its been configured correctly, how do i configure it? |
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| 13:30.56 | SnuS | great, thank you. |
| 13:31.04 | peterS | ailas: you'll have to restart it - kill it and start it up the same way you started it the first time |
| 13:31.11 | sep | Matt138, are you sure it's not saying that X is configured wrong ? |
| 13:31.26 | Matt138 | sorry yeh ,your righ tit was that |
| 13:31.26 | sep | !drxx matt138 |
| 13:31.27 | dpkg | matt138: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:31.28 | dsa | sep: the firewall script i used to run use to masq for the rest of the network (debian used to share the net, now its the router) if i just rename the file and reboot do you think i'll be ok? |
| 13:31.41 | dsa | rename it meaning so it wont startup from whereever its being start on boot from |
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| 13:32.39 | sep | dsa, i'd rather ou not invoke it from your boot scripts then just renaming it. becouse something is gogin to be looking for it when you boot. , dsa you must also unconfigure your external interface in the interfaces file |
| 13:32.49 | sep | dsa, remove the auto part of that interface |
| 13:32.57 | dsa | yeah ive removed the other interface already |
| 13:33.00 | dsa | and set this one to auto for the router |
| 13:33.17 | Matt138 | i entered that and it says command not found, i checked the spelling |
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| 13:33.21 | dsa | its geting an ip fine and can ping outside network fine |
| 13:33.29 | sep | dsa, well look in /etc/rc2.d for things that might load your firewall and remove that |
| 13:33.32 | ailas | peterS: there is no other way?? |
| 13:33.41 | zOap | sep, hi, u know how to mount ftp on unix? |
| 13:33.54 | dsa | the firewall script i had before was just one .sh file soley there to share the internet to the rest of the internal network, no longer needed so i just renamed it and rebooted |
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| 13:34.11 | peterS | ailas: no other way, in general. specific python programs might support something else. |
| 13:34.11 | sep | !msg zOap, |
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| 13:34.52 | sleon|work | hi |
| 13:34.57 | dsa | only thing i think i need to get working now is samba ill just edit the config to change which devices to listen on |
| 13:35.01 | sep | zOap, look at the lufs-utils package |
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| 13:35.16 | sleon|work | which driver should i take for broadcom crop. netxtreme bcm5721 lancard? |
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| 13:35.17 | dsa | btw sep you look to be pretty busy atm but thanks for helping me |
| 13:35.23 | sleon|work | it is 1 gig 100 mbit card |
| 13:35.25 | sep | dsa, np |
| 13:35.27 | zOap | sep, yeah, I did, but I couldn figure out how to get it to kernel... |
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| 13:35.39 | sep | zOap, it requites a patch |
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| 13:35.52 | zOap | sep, no worries, I'll figure it out:) thanx mate:) |
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| 13:36.03 | Matt138 | i entered "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and it didn't recognise the command |
| 13:36.09 | sep | zOap, i'd use the module-assstant to compile the kernel module |
| 13:36.32 | dsa | sep: so now i can ping to and from but cannot access samba shares, ive edittd the config and restarted the service, any other suggestions? |
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| 13:36.40 | zOap | sep, OK, me too, but I may have messed up the version numbers |
| 13:37.11 | dsa | maybe any host files i have to edit or dns or something |
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| 13:37.55 | sep | dsa, check /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny |
| 13:38.05 | Matt138 | oic i spelt reconfigure with a g, damn dyslexia |
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| 13:38.10 | sep | dsa, and use netstat -plont to verify samba is listening on your interface |
| 13:38.13 | Agrajag- | anyone know how i can disable the virtual screen size? ie. i want 800x600, and not to scroll around |
| 13:38.53 | sep | zOap, tried m-a a-i lufs ? |
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| 13:38.54 | tralala | Agrajag-: remove the higher resolutions from the config file |
| 13:39.16 | tralala | or use xrandr to switch between the resolutions |
| 13:39.21 | sep | !drxx Agrajag- |
| 13:39.22 | dpkg | Agrajag-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:39.30 | Technel | I tried changing my resolution in XF86Config, but it is still like 600x800 |
| 13:39.52 | sep | !drxx Technel |
| 13:39.53 | dpkg | Technel: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:39.57 | sep | !md5x Technel |
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| 13:40.24 | sep | !tell Technel about xmd5 |
| 13:40.31 | dsa | yes smbd is running on this interface/ip address |
| 13:40.33 | Agrajag- | i have tv out. i want to use 1280x1024, but when i watch tv i want to switch to 800x600. this works. except that it scrolls around in 800x600 on the tv when i switch to that (tv can't do 1280x1024) |
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| 13:40.48 | tralala | Agrajag-: xrandr |
| 13:41.10 | tralala | or if you use kde, it has a windows like tool for changing the resolution |
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| 13:41.53 | ttick | is PAM just /etc/shadow? Or is it something more? |
| 13:41.55 | tralala | gives |
| 13:41.58 | Agrajag- | look i can change resolution fine - just when i change to 800x600 it scrolls around |
| 13:42.01 | sep | ttick, lots more |
| 13:42.06 | sep | ttick, /etc/pam.d |
| 13:42.08 | dsa | and /etc/hosts is pretty much clear, allow and deny are empty isthat ok? |
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| 13:42.24 | ttick | sep: are the passwds the same as what's in /etc/shadow? |
| 13:42.27 | tralala | Agrajag-: please, just try xrandr, please |
| 13:42.30 | Agrajag- | ok |
| 13:42.40 | sep | dsa, perhaps you need to alter more configs in your smb.conf file. have you been running wins server perhaps ? |
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| 13:42.52 | dsa | um ill have a look |
| 13:43.11 | ttick | sep: reason I ask, is I'm trying to set up SMTP-AUTH for exim, and I've found a howto on setting up PAM instead of /etc/shadow, and the howto doesn't seem to tell me the difference. |
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| 13:43.40 | sep | ttick, what passwords ? pam is a system where you can authenticate against different files. perhaps you have user info on a database. or a smartcard reader or a iris scanner or a dns analyzing system or voice recognition or whatever |
| 13:43.55 | dsa | what would it sayif i was running wins? i dont thinki see anythig |
| 13:44.16 | ttick | sep: hmm. then I have no idea why I've been lead down this road. :/ |
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| 13:44.28 | sep | ttick, becouse exim can use pam to authenticate. |
| 13:44.37 | sciron | how can I force the password configuration for mysql? dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server doesn't seem to cut it |
| 13:44.41 | sep | and pam can use whatever backend you choose to store the passwords |
| 13:44.58 | sciron | and i'm quite mysql ignorant |
| 13:45.17 | sep | sciron, you mean how you can set a password on mysql ? |
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| 13:45.19 | stew | sciron: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian |
| 13:45.28 | Jarky | well, since yesterday evening, when I do a /dns in xchat I get this message: (";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached") |
| 13:45.30 | zOap | sep, it gives me errors: http://pastebin.com/329189 |
| 13:45.31 | Jarky | any ideas, why? |
| 13:45.36 | sciron | sep> that would work as well, even.... dpkg-reconfigure was the easiest way I could think of |
| 13:45.37 | sep | sciron, if your mysql ignorant use phpmyadmin install that and browse to your ysql server |
| 13:45.41 | Jarky | it has to do with my ISP, nameservers? |
| 13:45.46 | sciron | ty both sep & stew |
| 13:45.46 | dsa | damn sep are you a robot? |
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| 13:46.03 | sep | dsa, no it's just to late on my working day to start on something new |
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| 13:46.17 | sep | dsa, so i try answering a few simple questions in #debian. |
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| 13:46.26 | sep | since i cant code for shit :P |
| 13:46.46 | ttick | sep: ah. hmm. I was trying to go for a minimally complicated solution (KISS) just to get this AUTH thing running. Do I really need/want to go down this PAM rabbit hole? The README seems to think that I can run the sasl-daemon to have exim use /etc/shadow. |
| 13:46.50 | dsa | hehe well you're greatl appreciated for eventhough there's probably know way of us really showing it |
| 13:46.51 | peterS | sep: coding for money is more fun anyway |
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| 13:46.56 | dsa | people like you make the world go around |
| 13:46.56 | sep | Jarky, verify your nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:46.58 | zignig | bleh! |
| 13:46.58 | peterS | sep: so don't worry about what you can't do |
| 13:47.02 | peterS | zignig! |
| 13:47.09 | zignig | peterS: maaate :) |
| 13:47.22 | zignig | peterS: wassup? |
| 13:47.24 | dsa | for noobs like us anyway |
| 13:47.30 | peterS | zignig: nothing much. been awhile. |
| 13:47.34 | sep | peterS, it's not like i have to litte to do,. but i go home in 10 mins so i dont want to beging anything big |
| 13:47.57 | Jarky | sep: the problem exists since yesterday evening, never have I edit this conf yet. |
| 13:47.59 | sep | peterS, allways wanted to learn coding (beyond pascal i had in school 10 years ago) |
| 13:48.05 | abrotman | !moo |
| 13:48.05 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939, or cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
| 13:48.13 | zignig | peterS: it has been awhile, i've actally been having fun at my new job , nor ircing on company time anymore ;) |
| 13:48.20 | dsa | i havnt touched samba but the security was and still is on user, whats the most public option i can set for samba so network users can access their shares ASAP? ill worryabout security later |
| 13:48.26 | abrotman | zignig: you should fix that |
| 13:48.36 | sep | Jarky, well try nameresolution in your shell first. if that also fail look at the config |
| 13:48.39 | zignig | abrotman: hehe. |
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| 13:49.05 | zignig | abrotman: i've been more than busy keeping servers alive; M$ grrr |
| 13:49.11 | sep | dsa, have your users chaned passwords or usernames ? if not dont mess with the security |
| 13:49.20 | peterS | zignig: ah, heh |
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| 13:49.25 | Jarky | sep: which is the command? just "nameresolution"? |
| 13:49.39 | abrotman | zignig: would you rather be doing programming? |
| 13:49.54 | sep | Jarky, just read the textfile /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:49.57 | stew | Jarky: something like "host google.com" in a shell |
| 13:50.04 | greycat | Jarky: apt-get install dnsutils |
| 13:50.06 | zignig | peterS: definatly, python in my choice. |
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| 13:50.11 | ailas | peterS: thanks |
| 13:50.13 | abrotman | i asked :) |
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| 13:50.20 | abrotman | zignig: so get a job doing that? |
| 13:50.25 | sep | Jarky, ahh i like the host command. |
| 13:50.33 | peterS | abrotman: he just got *this* job a few months ago |
| 13:50.35 | lildude | are samsung printer good |
| 13:50.37 | Jarky | greycat: everything installed, ok sep let me check. |
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| 13:50.44 | lildude | what wirles linux card |
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| 13:50.56 | zignig | abrotman: I quite enjoy my job ATM, just bitching. A spot in R&D is coming up in a few months (maybe) |
| 13:51.00 | peterS | stew: I love how google.com has replaced rs.internic.net as the default way to test your resolver |
| 13:51.08 | Jarky | sep: malibu:/home/jesus# host otenet.gr |
| 13:51.08 | Jarky | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 13:51.11 | abrotman | zignig: woohoo |
| 13:51.12 | zignig | abrotman: for a country wide (.au) ISP |
| 13:51.19 | abrotman | peterS: so .. what's your point? :) |
| 13:51.21 | Jarky | so, next step? /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 13:51.23 | greycat | peterS: funny, I always used yahoo |
| 13:51.31 | sep | Jarky cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:51.41 | sep | Jarky, and verify that against your isp's nameservers |
| 13:51.43 | abrotman | zignig: sounds like fun . except that win32 thing :) |
| 13:51.48 | peterS | greycat: ah, so you weren't around before yahoo was born. n00b. (: |
| 13:51.57 | stew | peterS: but what has replaced 128.2.1.2 as people's default ip address to test connectivity with? |
| 13:51.59 | zignig | abrotman: the takeover has already begun (MWHAHAHA) |
| 13:52.08 | abrotman | zignig: can i help? |
| 13:52.17 | Jarky | sep: it says only nameserver 192.168.1.1 (via eth) |
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| 13:52.18 | peterS | stew: people don't usually test reverse lookups. when your forward lookups work, generally everything works |
| 13:52.26 | zignig | abrotman: perhaps :} |
| 13:52.39 | peterS | stew: I didn't even know about 128.2.1.2 - nice hostname |
| 13:52.40 | sep | Jarky, and you have a nameserver running on 192.168.1.1 in your lan ? |
| 13:52.43 | lildude | any one use wirells router? |
| 13:52.48 | stew | peterS: no, that just used to be the most common thing to ping when you wanted to see if there was any connectivity |
| 13:52.49 | lildude | samsung printer used? |
| 13:52.50 | dsa | thanks sep its not working from this laptop but runs fine from others |
| 13:52.56 | dsa | thanks for your help today |
| 13:52.56 | abrotman | zignig: i'd .. just have to move :) .. which is actually .. quite ok for me |
| 13:53.12 | peterS | stew: shoulda known cmu would have the second class B in the whole world |
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| 13:53.16 | stew | peterS: they used to switch up the reverse on it to funny stuff just becuase so many people were doing this, but they took it offline |
| 13:53.26 | Matt138 | in the xserver configure ation which mouse portoption do you pick for a PS/2 mouse |
| 13:53.31 | Jarky | sep: 192.168.1.1 is the ip of my router, where I have put the primary and secondary dns nameservers. |
| 13:53.34 | zignig | abrotman: where are you now ? |
| 13:53.51 | abrotman | zignig: philly :) |
| 13:53.58 | sep | Jarky, try querying those nameservers directly |
| 13:54.04 | zignig | abrotman: ah yes Looooong way then |
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| 13:54.14 | Jarky | sep: by host? |
| 13:54.25 | sep | Jarky, host www.cnn.com ipaddressofnamesrver |
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| 13:54.46 | abrotman | zignig: if i start rowing now .. i could be there ... by xmas if i use the currents! |
| 13:54.51 | peterS | stew: "host quit.ucsd.edu" - and think about the nslookup command line interface |
| 13:54.53 | abrotman | zignig: xmas 2006 :) |
| 13:55.12 | greycat | peterS: deprecated. :) |
| 13:55.13 | zignig | abrotman: zepplin |
| 13:55.17 | peterS | greycat: bah (: |
| 13:55.23 | stew | peterS: hah |
| 13:55.23 | abrotman | zignig: oh yeah .. i'll need music :) |
| 13:55.28 | Jarky | sep: I did it, it seems that it works |
| 13:55.32 | sep | Jarky, sound like some dns cache/proxy on your router stopped working. if it's a dumb box restart the thing. if it's a linux troubleshoot it. |
| 13:55.38 | zignig | abrotman: and sandwitches. |
| 13:55.40 | tralala | greycat: which one? host? |
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| 13:55.42 | peterS | stew: I swear there used to be a quit CNAME use.exit.to.quit.nslookup.something.edu somewhere. I just don't remember where |
| 13:55.45 | greycat | tralala: nslookup |
| 13:55.51 | abrotman | zignig: i'll bring fishing line .. |
| 13:55.52 | tralala | ah, k |
| 13:56.33 | zignig | abrotman: a hydrogen zepplin would be easy(ish) to make; kind um , hindenburg is the problem |
| 13:56.47 | abrotman | zignig: nah .. not a problem ... |
| 13:57.15 | abrotman | though .. if richard branson can do a hot air baloon .. so can i! |
| 13:57.23 | abrotman | what does he have that i don't!?!? |
| 13:57.29 | zignig | abrotman: he's got lots of hot air to start with. |
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| 13:58.34 | sep | im off home goodnight |
| 13:58.42 | zignig | sep: gnite |
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| 14:00.08 | dings | What would be the easiest way to store a 7 GB file on a vfat filesystem? |
| 14:00.20 | skate | huh? |
| 14:00.29 | Gathond | dings: not sure vfat supports more then 2 GB per file |
| 14:00.38 | greycat | I'm awfully sure it can't. |
| 14:00.42 | skate | it can't. |
| 14:00.44 | abrotman | 4GB i think .. and it can't |
| 14:00.48 | skate | hence the "huh?" |
| 14:00.50 | Gathond | dings: you could use split I assume, as long as you dont want to access it while it is on there |
| 14:00.53 | abrotman | oh .. split! |
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| 14:01.02 | dings | Gathond: It doesn't. So I'll have to split it somehow |
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| 14:01.15 | skate | what kind of file is it dings |
| 14:01.15 | Gathond | dings: yes, so use split |
| 14:01.29 | dings | Gathond: thanks |
| 14:01.58 | Matt138 | i can't configure the x server properly! i must be going wrong somewhere i've tried it a few times now and always goes wrong! lol |
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| 14:02.30 | lleandro-fc | how i block the login of root? |
| 14:02.41 | skate | Matt138, try looking at the log file for errors maybe? |
| 14:02.56 | doub | Matt138: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 -plow' if you want it to guess the most appropriate values automagically |
| 14:03.00 | Matt138 | even if i did i wouldn't know what the errors meant tbh |
| 14:03.04 | doub | Matt138: but it might not work as expected |
| 14:03.11 | Matt138 | meh worth a try |
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| 14:04.39 | Ronin | lleandro-fc: isnt it blocked by default? |
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| 14:05.44 | stew | doub: -plow is the default anyway, it's not needed |
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| 14:06.18 | Technel | How do I create a launcher on my XFCE panel that opens up the menu like when you right click on the desktop? |
| 14:06.27 | doub | stew: huh? i guess it depends on what's been answered to the debconf priority question |
| 14:06.50 | stew | doub: man dpkg-reconfigure |
| 14:07.11 | lleandro-fc | Ronin, not now |
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| 14:07.55 | zOap | dumb question, I know... But I'm running kernel 2.6.8-2-386, uname -r verifies this. I've apt-get the kernel-headers for that kernel, and it lies in /usr/src/. I'm trying to build shfs into kernel, but I get all kinds of errors when m-a a-i shfs. I didnt do anything else but apt-get the headers. Should I do more? symlinks, build? help! |
| 14:08.03 | nunez | Is there a way to join files together that are downloaded from a newsgroup? |
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| 14:08.20 | peterS | nunez: aub is the traditional script for downloading and assembling your pr0n |
| 14:08.27 | peterS | nunez: there are competitors, apt-cache search for them |
| 14:08.31 | Matt138 | doub, i did the reconfigure thing with the -plow on the end and it jsut did exactly the same thing as without it |
| 14:08.34 | nunez | peterS: I'm using brag |
| 14:08.36 | dimir | lol |
| 14:08.53 | nunez | peterS: But it downloads to Example: sit.001-sit.500 |
| 14:08.59 | doub | Matt138: yes, my bad, it's not -plow |
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| 14:09.06 | nunez | peterS: is it possible to just mv all to .sit? |
| 14:09.08 | yam | anyway using tigon3 gigabit nics? |
| 14:09.11 | yam | anyone |
| 14:09.15 | Matt138 | oh |
| 14:09.21 | peterS | nunez: you know, I have no idea. ask 'file' what the files look like |
| 14:09.43 | peterS | nunez: or try 'cat filename.sit.* > filename.sit' |
| 14:09.44 | Matt138 | if its not plow what is it? |
| 14:09.46 | nunez | peterS: data |
| 14:09.47 | doub | stew: do you know what's the debconf priority level which asks the least possible questions ? 'critical'? |
| 14:10.07 | greycat | doub: whichever one's on the other end of the list from "low" |
| 14:10.14 | peterS | nunez: or just use 'uudeview' which claims to handle that stuff automatically |
| 14:10.27 | doub | greycat: that's the one i'm searching for right now ;) |
| 14:10.33 | peterS | nunez: or xdeview if you need a GUI |
| 14:11.11 | cplx | any ideas when I type 'apt-get update' it takes a while and says there is no updates.. it been like 2 weeks and there has been no update.. im running unstable btw.. |
| 14:11.13 | doub | Matt138: try with '-pcritical' |
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| 14:11.20 | Matt138 | ok |
| 14:11.36 | peterS | cplx: your mirror is one of the unlucky ones that broke when ftp-master moved? |
| 14:11.44 | nunez | peterS: Thanks man |
| 14:11.49 | greycat | doub: how hard is it to arrow all the way up/down until it doesn't go any more? |
| 14:11.56 | greycat | sheesh. |
| 14:12.00 | cplx | peterS: no idea..? How do I tell/ |
| 14:12.12 | peterS | cplx: what mirror do you use in sources.list? |
| 14:12.43 | cplx | peterS: ftp.wa.au.debian.org |
| 14:12.49 | doub | greycat: sorry? i don't understand |
| 14:13.00 | greycat | doub: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 14:13.09 | doub | greycat: yes, that's what i just did |
| 14:13.20 | peterS | cplx: ok I haven't heard the status of that one. try a different mirror, at random. or try http://ftp.debian.org/debian which should always work |
| 14:13.26 | greycat | doub: if you use the dialog interface, as most people should, it gives you a list of them arranged vertically and you just arrow up/down through them |
| 14:13.30 | nunez | greycat: Do you get paid to sit in here and help people all the time? |
| 14:13.40 | greycat | nunez: your payment's past due. |
| 14:14.05 | stew | doub: or man 7 debconf (as it says in the dpkg-reconfigure manpage) |
| 14:14.07 | doub | greycat: yes, i know. that's what i just did |
| 14:14.23 | cplx | peterS: Cheers, I'll use that for now.. |
| 14:14.35 | peterS | cplx: someone else in wa reports that ftp.wa.au.debian.org is not getting updates. it's not just you |
| 14:14.38 | doub | stew: it's "critical", after checking. thanks anyway. man 7 debconf doesnt' tell much more, btw |
| 14:14.39 | nunez | greycat: Very past due, you have no idea lol |
| 14:14.56 | doub | stew: just how to change that value, not what to put in |
| 14:14.56 | stew | doub: it woudl have told you critical, though |
| 14:15.02 | nunez | greycat: You have helped me a number of times, must appreciated may I say, also for other like peterS |
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| 14:15.15 | stew | doub: debconf(7) lists low medium high critical |
| 14:15.34 | zOap | noone knows how to build/install kernel headers? |
| 14:15.58 | stew | zOap: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 14:16.04 | Matt138 | doub, still says its not set up correctly... |
| 14:16.18 | doub | Matt138: what does it say? |
| 14:16.21 | stew | !coffee doub |
| 14:16.26 | zOap | Stew, I know, but don't I have to do more? like make or something, m-a? |
| 14:16.30 | peterS | cplx: someone suggests mirror.aarnet |
| 14:16.45 | doub | stew: thanks |
| 14:16.52 | Matt138 | i cannot start the xserever it is likly that it is not set up correctly would you like to view the server output to diagnoset he problem |
| 14:17.02 | stew | zOap: not for kernel headers, you need kernel headers to use m-a to install some other module, though. what are you trying to do? |
| 14:17.13 | peterS | cplx: meaning http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian |
| 14:17.17 | doub | Matt138: maybe grep for 'EE' in your /var/log/XFree86.?.log if any |
| 14:17.46 | zOap | stew, I'm trying to install shfs, but get error: http://pastebin.com/329189 |
| 14:17.55 | Matt138 | doub: theres too many wordsi n that sentence i don't understand to be able to do that :P |
| 14:18.28 | cplx | peterS: Just found out that my ISP (iiNet) offers one :) getting full 1.2mbps off it eheh |
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| 14:18.30 | doub | Matt138: you should find a file in /var/log/ named XFree86.<some number>.log |
| 14:18.31 | zOap | stew, lufs that is... |
| 14:18.35 | peterS | cplx: w00t |
| 14:18.37 | Matt138 | ok |
| 14:18.58 | cplx | peterS: eheh, cheers for your help mate :) |
| 14:19.02 | peterS | no problem dude |
| 14:19.03 | doub | Matt138: usually /var/log/XFree86.0.log. so use "grep 'EE' /var/log/XFree86.0.log" to get what went wrong |
| 14:19.05 | Matt138 | what command accesses a directory? |
| 14:19.11 | greycat | lots of them. |
| 14:19.14 | Matt138 | oh |
| 14:19.14 | doub | Matt138: "cd" |
| 14:19.25 | zignig | Matt138: and 'ls' to list |
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| 14:20.43 | zOap | stew, actually I get the same errors when trying to build both lufs and shfs.. So I reckon I'm missing something.. But I installed shfs succesfully on kernel 2.4.27 |
| 14:20.50 | Matt138 | doub: ok i typed in what you said |
| 14:21.01 | abrotman | zOap: are you on sid ? |
| 14:21.03 | doub | Matt138: did it return something? |
| 14:21.10 | zOap | abrotman, no, sarge |
| 14:21.18 | Matt138 | doub: (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER |
| 14:21.21 | Matt138 | next line: |
| 14:21.31 | Matt138 | (EE) No Devices Detected |
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| 14:22.48 | zOap | abrotman, why, could that cause my errors? |
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| 14:23.11 | doub | Matt138: ok, can you paste the whole file ? ('/msg dpkg paster' for how to do this, do *not* paste directly in this channel) |
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| 14:23.21 | Frolic | hello all. |
| 14:23.45 | graeme | how do i set my mime-type default file associations? |
| 14:23.46 | Frolic | who i can view the total of packages at sarge or sid versions? |
| 14:23.50 | Matt138 | umm but i'm on a different computer:S |
| 14:24.07 | Frolic | 10.000? 20.000? |
| 14:24.20 | stew | zOap: after you installed kernel-headers and build-essential, "m-a a-i lufs" should work |
| 14:24.39 | zOap | stew, but it doesnt. http://pastebin.com/329189 |
| 14:24.59 | doub | Matt138: well, maybe then open the file with your favorite text editor, look at the lines above the '(EE)' to see if it yelds anything meaningful |
| 14:25.10 | zOap | stew, something is wrong... But I don't know what... |
| 14:25.21 | doub | Matt138: but that's a hard thing to do if you don't know what you're looking for |
| 14:25.31 | doub | Matt138: maybe look for lines starting with (WW) |
| 14:25.37 | stew | zOap: do you have a /usr/src/kenrel-headers-2.6.8-2-386 directory? |
| 14:25.45 | zOap | stew, yes |
| 14:25.50 | Matt138 | ok |
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| 14:26.06 | Matt138 | dunno how to run a text editor or anything tho lol |
| 14:26.17 | zOap | stew, and uname -r outputs the same |
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| 14:26.38 | rumpl | Matt138, nano, emacs ... |
| 14:26.42 | jaime | hello i want to know if i can install xorg |
| 14:26.50 | jaime | for and old installation |
| 14:27.03 | tezra | when init runs on boot time which user is it using to run the init scripts or rc.local? |
| 14:27.07 | Matt138 | rumpl: i just don't know how to run anything from the command line lol |
| 14:27.11 | Matt138 | i'll figure it out |
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| 14:27.28 | rumpl | Matt138, type emacs /var/log/XFre... |
| 14:27.35 | jaime | what is the apt-get line to donwlad xorg?'' |
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| 14:27.51 | zOap | jaime, apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 14:27.51 | rumpl | jaime, apt-cache search xorg |
| 14:28.01 | doub | Matt138: 'editor /var/log/XFree86.0.log' should give you the default editor with this file |
| 14:28.03 | peterS | jaime: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main |
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| 14:28.22 | Matt138 | rumpl: emacs:command not found. I take it i don't have the program |
| 14:28.33 | rumpl | Matt138, try nano |
| 14:28.50 | Matt138 | it opened it now, thanks |
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| 14:29.21 | rumpl | Matt138, what is the error you get when you start an x |
| 14:29.40 | permee | good afternoon people |
| 14:29.45 | Matt138 | doub: found 2 lines beginnign (WW) |
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| 14:30.02 | doub | Matt138: what do they say? |
| 14:30.03 | rumpl | Matt138, and??? what does it say |
| 14:30.28 | Matt138 | The directory "/usr/x11/fonts/cyrillic" does not excist |
| 14:30.36 | Matt138 | entry delted from font path |
| 14:30.42 | doub | Matt138: that one doesn't matter |
| 14:30.45 | Matt138 | and then the same but cid insteead of cyrillic |
| 14:30.47 | rumpl | Matt138, nevermind that |
| 14:30.58 | greycat | if he's going to paste EVERY fucking warning from the X log, we'll be here all day. |
| 14:31.04 | blikar | non linux/debian related question coming through: Anyone here has a HP pavillion dv1000 series notebook? |
| 14:31.05 | rumpl | Matt138, tell me what happens when you run x |
| 14:31.13 | nrclf | 420 smoke lunix all day |
| 14:31.23 | paolob | Hi guys! Does the usb cnet singlepoint modem work with debian? thank you! |
| 14:31.23 | Matt138 | it says it can't run it and probably isn't configured properly |
| 14:31.47 | stew | zOap: so you have the kenrel headers installed but you don't have the scripts/gcc-version.sh script? |
| 14:31.52 | rumpl | Matt138, does your monitor blinks? |
| 14:31.53 | stew | zOap: that sounds odd? |
| 14:32.00 | Matt138 | yes |
| 14:32.26 | zOap | Stereo, yes, it sounds really odd, since gcc is installed... |
| 14:32.33 | permee | peeps how do i reset screen resolution?@install i said 1024X7689 and now i can only get 800X600 or less :-( |
| 14:33.03 | mkl1525 | jm_, greycat have tried to add "AP2_CONFLAGS = $(CFLAGS) -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT = 2048 -pipe -I/usr/include/xmltok -I/usr/include/openssl -Wall" but "debuild -us -uc" fails with "Fatal error at line 765", so is there any better place to put the server_limit config? |
| 14:33.44 | rumpl | Matt138, maybe it's the HorizSync and Vertrefresh... try dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and change the monitor config,.. |
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| 14:33.54 | abrotman | Matt138: paste you entire log file .. with the pastebin or something similar .. DO NOT PASTE IT HERE |
| 14:34.01 | greycat | !peeps |
| 14:34.01 | dpkg | hmm... peeps is a marshmallow chick product by Just Born, http://www.marshmallowpeeps.com There have been no confirmed sightings of these marshmallows on IRC, so anyone asking for them is being optimistic at best. stick them in the microwave for 30 seconds for a yummy treat. The Unofficial Peeps FAQ is available at (http://www.geekbabe.com/peeps/peepfaq.html) |
| 14:34.17 | Matt138 | i can't its on a different comp i don't knwo whow to access IRC on that one |
| 14:34.19 | rumpl | abrotman, he can't its on the other machne |
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| 14:34.22 | abrotman | so what? |
| 14:34.25 | abrotman | use a damn floppy |
| 14:34.39 | rumpl | Matt138, you have net on the other one?? |
| 14:34.39 | abrotman | usb drive .. cd .. whatever ... |
| 14:34.49 | abrotman | can he irc from the other box? |
| 14:34.54 | abrotman | if so .. he could paste it in #flood |
| 14:34.55 | greycat | or a network. |
| 14:34.58 | Matt138 | rumpl: yes |
| 14:35.14 | greycat | 10:35 CTCP VERSION reply from Matt138: mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 14:35.14 | rumpl | apt-get install xchat-text and come back... |
| 14:35.16 | greycat | Aha. |
| 14:35.22 | Matt138 | abrotman: floppy doesn't work ont hat comp |
| 14:35.32 | rumpl | Matt138, apt-get install xchat-text and come back... |
| 14:35.34 | greycat | does the fucking NETWORK CARD work? |
| 14:35.42 | Matt138 | ok |
| 14:35.55 | permee | thx a lot dpkg problems solved now and some english standard added at once great channel lol |
| 14:36.05 | Matt138 | rumpl: done so |
| 14:36.15 | greycat | permee: tomorrow's lesson will be on punctuation |
| 14:36.30 | rumpl | Matt138, what so... |
| 14:36.46 | permee | will be here greycat |
| 14:36.58 | Matt138 | rumpl:its installing the program |
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| 14:37.17 | onlinebacon | hi, how many cds do i need to download to install debian? |
| 14:37.19 | Matt138 | ok i have the prompt back |
| 14:37.24 | greycat | onlinebacon: zero or more |
| 14:37.35 | permee | onlinebacon 1 |
| 14:37.40 | onlinebacon | thanks |
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| 14:37.42 | rumpl | Matt138, connect now |
| 14:38.00 | Matt138 | rumpl, how? |
| 14:38.06 | rumpl | Matt138, hava you tried to change the monitor configuration |
| 14:38.09 | ma3x | how do you set volume on debian without using mixer? |
| 14:38.12 | greycat | rumpl: he's a mIRC user. |
| 14:38.28 | rumpl | greycat, ... |
| 14:38.34 | Matt138 | yeh but don't hold it against me |
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| 14:38.53 | ma3x | I've done this on freebsd, something like set mixer 100:100 |
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| 14:38.57 | ma3x | how do you do that on debian? |
| 14:39.01 | peterS | ma3x: aumix has a command line |
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| 14:39.14 | peterS | ma3x: I forget the details but it's similar in spirit to 'set mixer 100:100' |
| 14:39.23 | permee | k till tomorrow ,i'll bring me own ballpoint ;-) |
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| 14:39.27 | ma3x | ok, let me install it |
| 14:39.36 | rumpl | Matt138, ok i dont know what is mirc, nevermind, so like i said i think that you problem is just that the horisontal sync and refresh rate is out of bounds, try to fix that |
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| 14:39.51 | Matt138 | i don't knwo whats in bounds tho |
| 14:40.04 | ma3x | why is my sound so bad when i hear something loud? |
| 14:40.12 | ma3x | it doesn't matter if CD, or local file or stream |
| 14:40.16 | peterS | ma3x: quite possibly just a limitation of your hardware |
| 14:40.18 | greycat | rumpl: mIRC is the most common MS Windows IRC client. |
| 14:40.22 | peterS | ma3x: in fact, probably that |
| 14:40.31 | ma3x | peterS, not possible, on the last installation of debian everything was just fine |
| 14:40.35 | rumpl | Matt138, try this HorizSync 28.0 - 49.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 |
| 14:40.36 | Matt138 | o donwlad xorg?'' |
| 14:40.36 | Matt138 | * csdgp has joined #debian |
| 14:40.36 | Matt138 | <zOap> jaime, apt-get install xser |
| 14:40.40 | Matt138 | oops soory |
| 14:40.43 | Matt138 | wrong button |
| 14:40.54 | zOap | Matt138, wasthat for me? |
| 14:40.55 | rumpl | greycat, thanks |
| 14:40.56 | peterS | ma3x: hardware wears out. but try booting your old kernel and see if the problem goes away |
| 14:41.07 | peterS | ma3x: if it's not the hardware it's the device driver |
| 14:41.12 | Matt138 | nope i just acidently copied random text |
| 14:41.14 | ma3x | peterS, I can't. My old debian's gone! |
| 14:41.18 | zOap | lol |
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| 14:41.33 | ma3x | peterS, it's probably the driver, but what could be wrong? I used alsaconf |
| 14:41.58 | peterS | ma3x: probably a difference between the alsa and the non-alsa driver, then. something different in how they set up the mixer |
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| 14:42.27 | peterS | ma3x: out of curiosity, what chipset is this? lspci -n | awk '/0401/{print $3}' |
| 14:43.16 | ma3x | 10b9:5451 |
| 14:43.26 | ma3x | it's conexant |
| 14:43.32 | ma3x | but the driver for it is accer or something |
| 14:43.36 | ma3x | it's ac97 |
| 14:43.52 | peterS | ma3x: ah, ALi onboard sound |
| 14:43.59 | ma3x | yes peterS |
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| 14:44.14 | ma3x | I really hate this, im pro musician and can't hear the sound as I want to |
| 14:44.21 | peterS | I was just curious, I don't know anything specific about those chips. I don't have one. |
| 14:44.52 | peterS | if you really need good sound for your work (or just enjoyment), you might spend $15 on a SBLive! or something |
| 14:45.11 | ma3x | peterS, but I can't I have laptop |
| 14:45.18 | ma3x | unless there is pcmcia or something |
| 14:45.18 | peterS | ma3x: ahh |
| 14:45.24 | stew | ma3x: then make it $50 for a usb sb live :) |
| 14:45.35 | peterS | ma3x: well, you can buy "USB speakers" which is actually a USB-connected sound card, built into your speakers |
| 14:45.43 | ma3x | I have already top notch speakers |
| 14:45.46 | ma3x | that's not the problem |
| 14:45.47 | peterS | ahhh |
| 14:45.48 | kon_ | usb sound eek =) |
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| 14:46.34 | sciron | actually external sound cards are often superior to internal ones |
| 14:46.42 | rumpl | Matt138, so what's going on there, you still alive or jumped out the window... |
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| 14:46.52 | kon_ | yes, but made mad experience with external USB soundcards |
| 14:47.01 | sciron | ha, lol, yeah, there is that ;) |
| 14:47.50 | peterS | ma3x: you could drop the ALSA driver and load 'trident', which is the OSS driver corresponding to your chip |
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| 14:48.07 | peterS | ma3x: that involves doing 'lsmod' and then 'rmmod' anything that starts with snd_ |
| 14:48.09 | shingouz | kon_: usb sound is not too good but it is not as bad as you'd think. and that is pretty good endoersement coming from someone like me who does not like usb in the first place |
| 14:48.11 | peterS | ma3x: and then modprobe trident |
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| 14:48.22 | ma3x | peterS, let me try :) |
| 14:48.34 | peterS | ma3x: if that works, and it's what you want, you can make it permanent by adding a line "trident" to /etc/modules. then it will load next boot |
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| 14:49.37 | ma3x | ERROR: Module snd_ali5451 is in use |
| 14:49.45 | kon_ | shingouz, nope isnt too bad, but i prefer firewire :) |
| 14:49.47 | ma3x | is the mixer using it? |
| 14:50.03 | blikar | non linux/debian related question coming through: Anyone here has a HP pavillion dv1000 series notebook? |
| 14:50.04 | kon_ | ive had bandwidth problems with usb 1.x cards |
| 14:50.21 | shingouz | kon_: sure if you have firewire |
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| 14:50.40 | yam | cannot get 3com to boot over network (pxe) |
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| 14:50.51 | yam | anyone on a scenario like this? |
| 14:50.54 | peterS | yam: PXE is a PITA to set up at the server end |
| 14:51.04 | peterS | yam: so many ways to get it wrong, including vendor bugs on clients |
| 14:51.06 | kon_ | PITA? |
| 14:51.11 | kon_ | ah |
| 14:51.12 | greycat | !PITA |
| 14:51.12 | dpkg | pita is probably pain in the ass or whats usually for supper :) |
| 14:51.12 | peterS | pain in the anterior |
| 14:51.13 | kon_ | i get it |
| 14:51.17 | ma3x | peterS, I can't unload the snd module or any of the others |
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| 14:51.21 | yam | PXE: I have it working greaty with intel nics |
| 14:51.31 | peterS | ma3x: you have to unload them in order - you can't unload something that something else is depending on |
| 14:51.33 | cappiz | where do i change the splash picture for gnome login? |
| 14:51.39 | yam | peters: no problem with intel's |
| 14:51.48 | yam | peters: only with this 3com cards |
| 14:51.54 | peterS | ma3x: and you can't unload the interesting ones if you are still running sound apps, like a volume control panel applet or something |
| 14:51.55 | ma3x | peterS, starting from the first one in lsmod? |
| 14:51.56 | yam | which room doesnt even show up at boot up |
| 14:52.02 | yam | room=rom |
| 14:52.03 | peterS | ma3x: right |
| 14:52.27 | peterS | yam: I haven't tried PXEing a 3com. make sure the boot rom is enabled - there may be a bios setup thing to set this |
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| 14:52.38 | stew | ma3x: try modprobe -r instead of rmmod |
| 14:52.44 | peterS | ...or that (: |
| 14:52.53 | ma3x | peterS, thanks it worked now :) |
| 14:53.01 | yam | peters: yeah.. true.. there's an option to enable pxe (which is disbaled as default), I enable it but nothing... its weird... |
| 14:53.02 | XTF | Hi. Why does kernel-image-2.6 depend on 2.6.8 instead of 2.6.11? |
| 14:53.06 | peterS | ma3x: right, now 'modprobe trident' and see if your sound is any better |
| 14:53.44 | peterS | yam: I'm not much of a PXE expert, all I know about it is that I failed to get it to work with a really old IBM machine which supports "netbooting" but I'm guessing that's not actually true PXE |
| 14:53.56 | LSorensen | peterS: how old? |
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| 14:54.00 | peterS | yam: but before failing to get it to work, I read the docs and discovered that it was really finicky in all respects |
| 14:54.10 | peterS | LSorensen: pentium 133. I can't even get the case open so I don't know exactly what the components are |
| 14:54.18 | LSorensen | peterS: yeah that's too old for pxe. |
| 14:54.25 | yam | peters: probalby not... since pxe rocks for me... have been 2 days reading at 3com and googling, but no luck |
| 14:54.38 | peterS | yam: oh well. good luck, dude, you're way ahead of me |
| 14:54.40 | yam | will keep on trying before fighting my dealer in order to swap this card for an intel fiber one. |
| 14:54.44 | LSorensen | peterS: pxe is nice. the older boot methods were not very standard and more of a hasle to deal with |
| 14:55.00 | peterS | LSorensen: if the older boot methods were worse to set up than pxe, that's bad indeed |
| 14:55.11 | LSorensen | peterS: generating a boot image for the old boot methods was a nightmare |
| 14:55.19 | peterS | LSorensen: see, I can netboot real Unix boxes, the ones where you just have to have tftp and bootp somewhere |
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| 14:55.33 | LSorensen | peterS: like making tagged images for netboot/etherboot |
| 14:55.39 | peterS | ehhh. |
| 14:55.44 | LSorensen | peterS: sure, but unix boxes have sane firmware in general |
| 14:56.06 | peterS | LSorensen: so like the old netboot cards actually made you insert a miniature network stack into the boot image, to finish bootstrapping? |
| 14:56.17 | LSorensen | peterS: older decstations had broken tftp in many firmware versions so you had to use DEC MOP boot instead |
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| 14:56.31 | peterS | LSorensen: even MOP, I'm not afraid of, although I've never needed to use it (: |
| 14:56.32 | LSorensen | peterS: I believe so. |
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| 14:57.12 | LSorensen | peterS: I think it at least downloaded into ram the image tagged with what address each part had to be in, then jumped to that code, and it had size limits and such that were a pain |
| 14:57.36 | jcoiron | I just had a look at the FAQ (link in the topic) and there're some porn links on the page... it's really, really disturbing... I'll try to delete it |
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| 14:57.53 | peterS | LSorensen: oh *fun* |
| 14:58.06 | miz | xcf = native gimp format? |
| 14:58.09 | peterS | miz: yes |
| 14:58.10 | greycat | jcoiron: which page specifically? |
| 14:58.12 | LSorensen | peterS: and of course novell liked one method, ibm another, intel a 3rd, etc |
| 14:58.17 | mage | LSorensen: ever strap bigger straps? :) |
| 14:58.18 | jcoiron | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 14:58.26 | peterS | miz: the name is from some building where the gimp was originally developed, or something like that. it doesn't really mean anything anymore |
| 14:58.29 | LSorensen | mage: nope |
| 14:58.30 | jcoiron | the home page |
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| 14:58.47 | miz | Mmk, thanks |
| 14:58.51 | greycat | you're the second person who has said this, but there are none when *I* go there. Is this a non-english browser thing? |
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| 14:59.06 | jcoiron | greycat: yes, a french one |
| 14:59.15 | greycat | [current page size 2110 bytes] (last edited 2005-03-11 16:17:20 by GreyCat |
| 14:59.36 | mage | then it wasn't that bad, not quite "in my day our bootstraps were so wimpy we had to bootstrap bigger straps to get anywhere!" |
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| 15:00.18 | Ferhat | hi how to start iptables for debian on system boot ? |
| 15:00.27 | greycat | so, uh.... how *do* you get to the french version of the home page? |
| 15:00.33 | stew | Ferhat: /etc/init.d/README and /msg dpkg rc.local |
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| 15:00.35 | maja | how do i test if a floppy drive is working 100% ? |
| 15:00.52 | LSorensen | Ferhat: use shorewall or firehol, or just dpkg-reconfigure iptables and ask it to run at boot, and set the rules manually |
| 15:01.04 | LSorensen | mage: superformat has a nice test method |
| 15:01.06 | peterS | maja: 'fdutils' has various programs that can stress-test a floppy drive |
| 15:01.08 | LSorensen | er maja |
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| 15:01.13 | mage | greycat: try index.html.fr or index.fr.html if nobodu comes up with something |
| 15:01.14 | miz | Hmm... Just wondering... Anyone else has pings of 160ms+ to google? |
| 15:01.23 | maja | ta |
| 15:01.24 | greycat | mage: it's a wiki. |
| 15:01.29 | peterS | maja: fdutils includes superformat, as LSorensen said |
| 15:01.30 | stew | LSorensen: i don't think iptables even provides an initscript anymore |
| 15:01.35 | LSorensen | miz: which google server? |
| 15:01.40 | Ferhat | LSorensen shorewall support NAT ? |
| 15:01.43 | LSorensen | stew: oh. maybe not. I use shorewall |
| 15:01.44 | jcoiron | greycat: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PageAccueil |
| 15:01.47 | LSorensen | Ferhat: of course |
| 15:01.52 | miz | 216.239.39.99 |
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| 15:02.05 | Ferhat | hmm thanx |
| 15:02.06 | maja | will give thies a try thanks peterS LSorensen |
| 15:02.06 | miz | Whatever resolves for .com |
| 15:02.08 | LSorensen | miz: hmm, 22ms from here |
| 15:02.10 | rob_newbie | Hello everyone! I havee a problem with my add/remove applications in system tools. anybody able to help? |
| 15:02.20 | miz | :[ Mmk |
| 15:02.23 | LSorensen | miz: google.com resolves differently depending on where on the internet you are |
| 15:02.25 | peterS | 40 ms |
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| 15:03.03 | mage | 75 |
| 15:03.07 | shingouz | rob_newbie: what are you talking about? |
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| 15:03.42 | shingouz | jcoiron: it is a wiki. edit the pr0n links out |
| 15:03.52 | mage | miz: I get 40ms from my google servers, so like you're screwed in some way ;) |
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| 15:04.08 | greycat | shingouz: he can't. You need an account, because, well, people without accounts keep adding pr0n links. |
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| 15:04.18 | greycat | but I've edited that page now. |
| 15:04.20 | jcoiron | shingouz: I'm searching for the link |
| 15:04.23 | shingouz | greycat: hmm.. good point |
| 15:04.25 | jcoiron | ha. ok |
| 15:04.33 | rob_newbie | When I start the app all it does is sit there with a busy pointer. I am running ubuntu. |
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| 15:04.46 | greycat | ask #ubuntu |
| 15:04.49 | shingouz | rob_newbie: #ubuntu |
| 15:04.53 | greycat | we don't even know *what* app you mean. |
| 15:04.58 | greycat | probably some weird GNOME shit. |
| 15:05.03 | peterS | maybe ubuntu only has one app |
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| 15:05.11 | Supaplex | haha peterS |
| 15:05.14 | rob_newbie | newest version |
| 15:05.17 | jcoiron | greycat: right, no bad links now, thks |
| 15:05.20 | shingouz | rob_newbie: #ubuntu |
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| 15:05.45 | vasi | hi, i'm from the Fink distribution for OS X...we have a crappy SSL policy, and we're trying to find out what Debian does currently so we can be more like you :-) |
| 15:06.01 | dings | I was under the impression that ubuntu is just about a subset of debian. |
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| 15:06.15 | rob_newbie | I am sorry shingouz what do you mean by #ubuntu? |
| 15:06.23 | peterS | rob_newbie: it's a different irc channel |
| 15:06.25 | peterS | rob_newbie: this is #debian |
| 15:06.27 | vasi | i see a bunch of docs on the website, i'm not sure which is current...hope someone can clarify |
| 15:06.29 | Supaplex | only apt is similar, the distros are very different |
| 15:06.34 | rob_newbie | Ahh I see |
| 15:06.44 | rob_newbie | Sorry everyone |
| 15:06.48 | Supaplex | <smirk> just like mandrake and redhat are identical. |
| 15:06.48 | peterS | rob_newbie: you're welcome to hang out here, but we can't really help you with ubuntu stuff |
| 15:07.08 | shingouz | rob_newbie: /join #ubuntu and ask there |
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| 15:07.25 | graeme | vasi, if you don't get answers here, the debian mailing lists might be more helpful |
| 15:07.44 | vasi | graeme, thanks |
| 15:07.52 | shingouz | dings: /msg dpkg based on debian |
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| 15:09.02 | graeme | vasi, fink is rad. good work y'all |
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| 15:09.11 | vasi | :-) |
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| 15:09.19 | dings | shingouz: I'm aware debian has spawed alot. Just thought ubuntu just reduced theire universe to be able to release more often |
| 15:09.46 | shingouz | dings: what ubuntu says is their business. the fact remains that ubuntu is not debian |
| 15:09.57 | peterS | Supaplex: peaches aren't supposed to be crunchy. you got the pit, I think. it's actually poisonous |
| 15:10.13 | Supaplex | nawe, I tossed that |
| 15:10.32 | dings | shingouz: feel's like a default answer =) |
| 15:10.32 | Supaplex | good observation though |
| 15:10.58 | cappiz | where do i change the splash picture for gnome login? |
| 15:11.06 | Supaplex | all in favor of a #debian-purist channel say I ;) |
| 15:11.33 | graeme | if it takes the jerks outa here i'm all for it |
| 15:11.40 | shingouz | dings: and it is also the only one that works. ubuntu is not debian not because it is not called debian but because it has been modified _from_ debian |
| 15:11.54 | graeme | you can have a debian-kde-purist channel too. |
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| 15:11.57 | mage | cappiz: gdm config file somewhere ;) |
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| 15:12.14 | Supaplex | graeme++ |
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| 15:13.23 | shingouz | Supaplex: i am not a purist btw. i am just stating a fact. if you try to do things the real debian way you may very well end up screwing up your ubuntu. people who run ubuntu do not necessairly know howo to run debian or suse either |
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| 15:14.10 | dbernar1 | ya, its pretty similar in some things. But then not as good in things it does different. |
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| 15:14.13 | Supaplex | I have no freaking ubuntu so there's nothing to screw up. and that's their issue because, the ubuntu was isn't in #debian |
| 15:14.16 | dings | shingouz: true. I do like the release frequently thing though |
| 15:14.29 | Supaplex | was/way/ |
| 15:14.43 | rob_lt | Here's a stupid question I can't think to ask anywhere else. If I save a plain text document as .rtf, and someone tries to open it in MS Word or something, would that pose any problems? |
| 15:14.58 | jane | Do people see ubuntu as a newbie starter distro? |
| 15:15.01 | Supaplex | rob_lt: word opens rtf just fine. |
| 15:15.06 | shingouz | dings: i do not personally care about how often they release. apt-get takes care of it in anycase |
| 15:15.21 | rob_lt | Supaplex: right, but it is not actually rtf, it is a plain text file saved as .rtf instead of .txt |
| 15:15.28 | ma3x | peterS, it's not any better with trident. |
| 15:15.31 | peterS | rob_lt: it'd probably open just fine |
| 15:15.37 | mage | rob_lt: mv lala.txt lala.rtf? |
| 15:15.39 | peterS | ma3x: it works but not any better? |
| 15:15.49 | Gathond | Supaplex: which would be a good reason why one should inform them that ubuntu is therefore not supported here, rather than just giving them advice that might screw up their sustem simply because they have not realised ubuntu is not entirely debian ? |
| 15:15.56 | ma3x | peterS, yes, not any better the same |
| 15:15.57 | rob_lt | peterS: thanks, that's what I figured. |
| 15:15.58 | dbernar1 | why not just save it as a plain text file? word opens those as well. |
| 15:16.13 | shingouz | Gathond: we usually inform people to ask in some other channel |
| 15:16.16 | Supaplex | rob_lt: try it and see. I don't think it'll work, but then again rtf is plain text at the encoding level, so maybe it'll be smart enough to know it's not actually rtf. |
| 15:16.18 | peterS | ma3x: in that case I'm guessing the hardware is just losing quality at the boundaries of its specs, over time. but that's just a guess |
| 15:16.24 | Gathond | shingouz: I know |
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| 15:16.33 | peterS | rob_lt: apparently an RTF file named *.doc opens fine in word |
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| 15:17.01 | Gathond | shingouz: and as I understood Supaplex and graeme they disagreed with that practice |
| 15:17.13 | shingouz | Gathond: so did i |
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| 15:17.28 | Lumination | hello. is there an RDP server for linux? |
| 15:17.43 | LSorensen | Lumination: like vnc? |
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| 15:17.49 | shingouz | Lumination: apt-cache search rdp |
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| 15:17.52 | rob_lt | peterS: thanks again |
| 15:18.01 | rob_lt | !tell mingNfs about root |
| 15:18.19 | LSorensen | Lumination: thre are windows remote desktop clients, but I doubt anyone made a server. use vnc |
| 15:18.25 | LSorensen | Lumination: or use X |
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| 15:20.37 | Supaplex | Gathond: my appologies for even implying ubuntu users do anything with apt. the point I was attempting to establish w/o a long winded encyclopedia of discussion was pretty much, any distro that uses apt isn't debian just because it uses apt. (and also an implicit "we can't help you"). |
| 15:21.05 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 15:21.39 | rob_lt | hey person |
| 15:22.00 | Faithful | Hey got ADSL2+ on (at last) |
| 15:22.45 | sciron | am having some hima issues with mysql/webmin/phpbb-conf-mysql... all from the testing branch. where would an appropriated place to ask questions be? |
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| 15:23.15 | Phroziac | wow, channel full enough? |
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| 15:23.30 | greycat | #gentoo is bigger |
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| 15:23.52 | zap | hi. how would you remove a custom added email header in a maildrop (or procmail) filter? reformail does not seem to have this ability. |
| 15:23.53 | shingouz | sciron: maybe #mysql if there is such a channel. and webmin creates a lot of problems, lose it and go ssh. safer that way |
| 15:24.03 | Phroziac | With locales, after i set up a new one, for it to work, will i have to install anything else? |
| 15:24.18 | Phroziac | greycat: been there before, heheh. |
| 15:24.36 | shingouz | Phroziac: dpkg-reconfigure locales and it jsut works |
| 15:24.38 | greycat | Phroziac: set the LANG variable, see "man locale" |
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| 15:24.48 | shingouz | ah. of course :$ |
| 15:24.54 | jane | Anyone here use sendYmail, anything better out there? |
| 15:24.58 | sciron | there is a #mysql channel, and webmin isn't even available publicly, I bound it to one nic for usage with things I don't want to learn... okie, I'll hit them next, thanks |
| 15:25.02 | Phroziac | Ok. |
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| 15:25.17 | greycat | all the other LC_* things are. |
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| 15:25.37 | Phroziac | greycat: export LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8 <-- like that? |
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| 15:26.08 | greycat | !wikifaq Phroziac DotFiles |
| 15:26.09 | dpkg | Phroziac: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 15:26.19 | Phroziac | ok |
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| 15:26.21 | LSorensen | jane: you mean sendmail? |
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| 15:26.30 | LSorensen | jane: I would think both exim4 and postfix woudl be better |
| 15:27.09 | jane | LSorensen no sendYmail is a perl script for yahoo mail |
| 15:27.10 | smagy2 | hello folks, i had installed some packages using apt-get yesterday, but i can't recollect which ones, is there a way to find out what were the ones that were installed, say like there is a changelog type file that has this information |
| 15:27.45 | LSorensen | jane: oh. why would anyone use yahoo mail? |
| 15:27.53 | greycat | smagy2: only if you're in sid. |
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| 15:28.00 | KerPlunk | smagy2: cat /root/.bash_history|grep "apt-get install" |
| 15:28.01 | jane | lol |
| 15:28.04 | LSorensen | greycat: how does sid do it? |
| 15:28.09 | greycat | the 10-year-old wishlist bug asking for a log file for dpkg was FINALLY answered in dpkg 1.13.* |
| 15:28.14 | asg | smagy2: if you didn't run 'apt-get clean', look in /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 15:28.18 | jazzanova | smagy: you can look at the timestamps of .debs in the apt archives |
| 15:28.20 | Kvant | smagy2, try this: ls -lstr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | less +G |
| 15:28.28 | greycat | and it didn't even get to celebrate its 10th birthday either. |
| 15:28.35 | greycat | we were looking forward to it. |
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| 15:29.54 | ma3x | peterS, it's fine now |
| 15:29.59 | peterS | ma3x: eh? what did you do? |
| 15:30.02 | ma3x | peterS, the PCM level was almsot %100 |
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| 15:30.14 | ma3x | I got it down to %70-80 |
| 15:30.20 | peterS | ma3x: aha. so it's a matter of *how* the mixer levels were being used |
| 15:30.25 | smagy2 | LSorensen: i am using stable :( |
| 15:30.37 | ma3x | yes, fortunately! |
| 15:30.38 | smagy2 | KerPLunk: no history that is why the question |
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| 15:30.45 | smagy2 | Kvant: thanks, will try that |
| 15:31.04 | smagy2 | asg: hmmn, will try that |
| 15:31.06 | peterS | ma3x: good to know it wasn't your hardware *or* your driver causing the problem (: |
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| 15:31.50 | ma3x | peterS, damn yes, otherwise I would start thinking about bying a new card |
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| 15:31.53 | ma3x | and that costs |
| 15:32.00 | LSorensen | smagy2: well I guess there just isn't a way to tell unfortunately. Only hints from your bash history, any file stamps in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and such |
| 15:32.03 | peterS | ma3x: yeah especially what's available for laptops |
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| 15:32.44 | ma3x | peterS, but if I get one of those SB Live killers, will I have sound with a better quality? |
| 15:33.03 | smagy2 | LSorensen: yeah, Kvant's suggestion worked out well |
| 15:33.07 | smagy2 | thanks a bunch folks! |
| 15:33.24 | peterS | ma3x: I really have no idea. I find no fault with motherboard sound chips myself. maybe I don't know what to listen for. my speakers are also a $30 special including woofer |
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| 15:33.41 | LSorensen | peterS: well speakers like that will make anything sound crap :) |
| 15:33.43 | ma3x | peterS, what kind of speakers you got? |
| 15:34.02 | peterS | ma3x: no particular name brand. two little desk speakers plugged into a cube-shaped woofer on my floor |
| 15:34.08 | LSorensen | peterS: of course if your ears can't tell, or you don't care, then you certainly shouldn't spend more money on speakers |
| 15:34.11 | ma3x | peterS, harman/kardon ? |
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| 15:34.33 | peterS | ma3x: no, the logo on the front is some "CA" thing |
| 15:34.33 | ma3x | LSorensen, mine can tell very good! |
| 15:34.40 | LSorensen | peterS: me on the other hand would be tempted to spend $500 on a set of speakers if I had the money |
| 15:35.01 | LSorensen | ma3x: well then you don't want a laptop |
| 15:35.08 | ma3x | LSorensen, not me. I would spend max $200 |
| 15:35.08 | peterS | LSorensen: I could use more volume. my speakers don't amplify the sound quite enough, and distort when it gets loud. but other than that, I think they sound fine |
| 15:35.14 | Fluten | top says i have 900MB total memory, most of it used, 6MB free, 800MB swap used, and 400MB cached. Does using that much memory as cache slow my system down? |
| 15:35.31 | LSorensen | Fluten: and what does 'free' say? |
| 15:35.32 | peterS | Fluten: no. you *want* to have lots of cache |
| 15:35.35 | Gathond | Fluten: no, it speeds it up |
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| 15:35.50 | LSorensen | Fluten: cache is memory used for soemthing useful until needed for something else |
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| 15:36.12 | LSorensen | Fluten: swap used on the ohter hand sounds odd |
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| 15:36.17 | peterS | Fluten: "free memory is wasted memory". cache is a better use for your memory than just sitting there |
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| 15:36.22 | ma3x | peterS, Thanks a lot! I'm always very happy when I receive help :) |
| 15:36.30 | isleshocky77 | hello room |
| 15:36.34 | isleshocky77 | Does anyone know how to mount a NON-local linux server to another linux server? |
| 15:36.36 | peterS | ma3x: heh. turns out I didn't even solve your problem. I'm glad you did, though |
| 15:36.41 | Fluten | hmm, just 5 months ago i bought a 512MB stick to fill my last memory slot, and now it looks like i should of bought 1GB |
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| 15:36.56 | greycat | !should of |
| 15:36.57 | dpkg | GODS DAMN YOU, it's "should have"! Not "should of"! |
| 15:37.07 | ma3x | Fluten, do you play the flute? |
| 15:37.15 | Fluten | ma3x, not for a long time |
| 15:37.18 | eXistenZ | Does anyone know a good media player? |
| 15:37.19 | LSorensen | ma3x: good speakers would make a laptop sond better than the crap they build into them. an external high qaulity sound device (if one is supported by linux) would probably make another slight imprevement, but not compared to just getting decent speakers |
| 15:37.23 | isleshocky77 | I got a rediculous deal on 512's $17.99, bought two of them to make a 1gb |
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| 15:37.30 | ma3x | Fluten, did you just begin? |
| 15:37.41 | Fluten | ma3x, no |
| 15:37.52 | LSorensen | Fluten: running kde? |
| 15:37.58 | peterS | LSorensen: USB sound is USB sound. I imagine if you can buy a high-quality USB sound chip, Linux would drive it fine |
| 15:37.58 | Fluten | LSorensen, no, icewm |
| 15:38.17 | peterS | LSorensen: ...not that I have ever tested this theory |
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| 15:38.38 | LSorensen | peterS: well creative has some rather impresive looking ones that are not just usb sound. |
| 15:38.44 | eXistenZ | Is it recommended to upgrade my kernel? |
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| 15:38.52 | isleshocky77 | Does anyone know how to mount a NON-local Debian box to another debian box? |
| 15:38.52 | LSorensen | peterS: usb speakers if good quality would work fine though |
| 15:38.58 | peterS | LSorensen: you mean they use their own spec rather than adhering to the USB audio spec? |
| 15:39.12 | LSorensen | peterS: given they are multi channel, rather than just stereo output, yes |
| 15:39.20 | LSorensen | peterS: and offer midi, optical ports, etc |
| 15:39.21 | Fluten | IsaacHaze, i've done ftpfs before, but it's a little bit sloppy |
| 15:39.25 | peterS | ah I see |
| 15:39.26 | knt | a barebone debian installation should fit in 50-60Mb. but despite giving a 100mb space to /, installer still complains about disk size. |
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| 15:40.25 | knt | any debian fork for a `normal' installatin. (no fucked up packages, nu gui, nothing. i want my debian!) |
| 15:40.29 | peterS | hmmm. the laundromat is slightly cheaper on Thursday mornings, IIRC. I should go take advantage of this. later, people |
| 15:40.30 | LSorensen | peterS: hmm, I wonder what the new Xfi chip creative's web site has info on is all about. emu10kx replacement I wonder. |
| 15:40.33 | jane | has anyone ever used pebble |
| 15:40.43 | LSorensen | knt: I find a barebones install comes in around 120M |
| 15:40.45 | peterS | LSorensen: yeah, I know nothing about advanced sound chips / products |
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| 15:41.13 | knt | i missed an answer sorry... (i closd the wrong window.) |
| 15:41.43 | concept10 | I need some advice.. if someone stole my laptop is there anyway to trace back to it? |
| 15:41.53 | peterS | <LSorensen> knt: I find a barebones install comes in around 120M |
| 15:41.56 | LSorensen | peterS: audigy 2 ZS is a usb connected monster |
| 15:41.58 | peterS | ha |
| 15:42.07 | peterS | he done it again |
| 15:42.14 | LSorensen | peterS: they even have a version that does video capture |
| 15:42.30 | peterS | LSorensen: that puts it firmly in the realm of USB2 then, I guess |
| 15:42.31 | jdhutchin1 | concept10, you could ask local IT people to try to look out for the mac of your laptop in case anyone plugs it in |
| 15:42.40 | jdhutchin1 | concept10, other than that, there's not a whole lot |
| 15:43.07 | peterS | concept10: install spyware that calls home all the time, and redirect its destinations to your own web site |
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| 15:43.11 | concept10 | jdhutchin1, thats what im thinking about |
| 15:44.15 | ma3x | This is interesting |
| 15:44.16 | LSorensen | peterS: oh for sure. |
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| 15:44.23 | ma3x | can I bind a key to do 2 actions? |
| 15:44.28 | ma3x | like mute unmute |
| 15:44.30 | LSorensen | peterS: the non video capture one might work on usb1. not sure |
| 15:44.32 | concept10 | Im thinking that if someone uses the net with the laptop, how could I trace it back to a particular IP address or hotspot |
| 15:44.33 | empty | arg... these bladeservers I am working on have a single usb/cd/floppy unit they share (like a KVM). When I switch it to a server it detects fine, but when I switch *away* the box I am switching off of crashes |
| 15:44.44 | LSorensen | ma3x: why would you mute and unmute at the same time? |
| 15:44.48 | LSorensen | ma3x: that's a no-op |
| 15:44.52 | ma3x | not at the same time LSorensen |
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| 15:44.55 | ma3x | one after the other |
| 15:45.01 | LSorensen | ma3x: oh you want to bind it to toggle |
| 15:45.05 | ma3x | yes LSorensen |
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| 15:47.30 | JR28 | hi everybody |
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| 15:48.27 | JR28 | some french people here ? |
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| 15:48.38 | LSorensen | ma3x: well on alsa you can do stuff like: amixer sset Master toggle |
| 15:49.14 | boycer | !fr |
| 15:49.15 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 15:49.59 | JR28 | thanks :o) |
| 15:50.01 | permee | au nom de dieu |
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| 15:50.35 | ma3x | I can't understand: aumix -v M (mutes the sound) but aumix -v m (does NOT) |
| 15:50.40 | ma3x | what's wrong? |
| 15:51.08 | empty | arg... these bladeservers I am working on have a single usb/cd/floppy unit they share (like a KVM). When I switch it to a server it detects fine, but when I switch *away* the box I am switching off of crashes the krenel... Any ideas? |
| 15:51.30 | Gh0sty | hello, i've a problem with gnome on debian sid, when i open root shell it asks for a default keyring password, but i don't recall setting such a password, any ideas how to reset it or how to set it (or just turn the thing off) ??? |
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| 15:52.29 | greycat | "open root shell"?? |
| 15:52.34 | greycat | what the fuck is gnome smoking *this* week? |
| 15:52.42 | Gh0sty | well an xshell ... |
| 15:52.48 | greycat | so you started gnome as root? |
| 15:52.52 | Gh0sty | terminal ... |
| 15:52.54 | Gh0sty | no |
| 15:53.13 | LSorensen | ma3x: aumix sucks. use alsa |
| 15:53.16 | Gh0sty | i meanth a root terminal |
| 15:53.29 | RogueDopple | you mean alsamixer right |
| 15:53.36 | stew | amixer |
| 15:53.51 | Gh0sty | then it first asks for that default keyring password, then it asks for root password if i press cancel and then it asks again for the default keyring password |
| 15:54.14 | LSorensen | runge: no amixer actually for command line tasks |
| 15:54.15 | Gh0sty | it can be cancelled (don't actually know what it does) but its nagging ... |
| 15:54.19 | LSorensen | er RogueDopple |
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| 15:54.23 | greycat | Gh0sty: you have to tell us what command your crack-whore is running. |
| 15:54.32 | greycat | Gh0sty: we can't guess, except that it probably involves ssh in some way |
| 15:54.40 | Gh0sty | hmm?? |
| 15:54.55 | Gh0sty | just gnome and then start an root terminal under gnome |
| 15:55.04 | Gh0sty | then it start what is called gnome-keyring |
| 15:55.10 | zamolxes | !nickometer D3v1L |
| 15:55.10 | dpkg | 'D3v1L' is 99.530% lame, zamolxes |
| 15:55.14 | Gh0sty | and that asks for a default keyring password |
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| 15:55.23 | ix | !nickometer toresbe |
| 15:55.30 | D3v1L | ? |
| 15:55.39 | astronut | How can I change the egnine/method firefox uses to play sounds? |
| 15:55.48 | greycat | Gh0sty: we have NO fucking clue what "start an root terminal under gnome" does. |
| 15:55.53 | D3v1L | zamolxes do u have any question? |
| 15:55.58 | greycat | Gh0sty: you have to tell us what command it's issuing |
| 15:56.08 | zamolxes | D3v1L, no, i had a question for dpkg, and it answered. thanks for caring |
| 15:56.08 | goccia | gnome-keyring ? it sound like kde-wallet |
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| 15:56.31 | astronut | goccia: is that anything like microsoft wallet? icckkk |
| 15:56.39 | goccia | astronut: i think so :) |
| 15:56.42 | Gh0sty | gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator |
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| 15:56.54 | ma3x | LSorensen, does ALSA have command line? |
| 15:56.56 | astronut | How can I change the egnine/method firefox uses to play sounds? |
| 15:57.09 | astronut | ma3x: command line to do what? |
| 15:57.09 | covux | astronut: /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc <- there you can change sound wrappers |
| 15:57.12 | D3v1L | zamolxes ok, if u prefer to talk with bots, have a nice conversation |
| 15:57.17 | ma3x | astronut, like set pcm 100:100 |
| 15:57.21 | astronut | covux: thanks |
| 15:57.25 | astronut | ma3x: yes |
| 15:57.28 | yeti | hi - does the debian stable netinst CD come with a 2.6 kernel on it? my laptop has a cl6729 pcmcia bridge, and it seems that 2.4 doesn't support it |
| 15:57.28 | astronut | alsactl i think |
| 15:57.40 | astronut | sorry |
| 15:57.41 | astronut | amixer |
| 15:57.44 | zamolxes | D3v1L, well it was not a casual conversation, i was just asking for a piece of information the bot was able to provide, that's all |
| 15:57.58 | astronut | None XF86AudioRaiseVolume :ExecCommand /usr/bin/amixer set 'Master',0 1+ |
| 15:58.02 | astronut | oops |
| 15:58.05 | ma3x | let me check it |
| 15:58.07 | astronut | just change the 1+ to 100 |
| 15:58.12 | ma3x | hehe |
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| 15:58.15 | greycat | !find bin/gksu$ sarge |
| 15:58.21 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/gksu' (1): (/usr/bin/gksu) in admin/gksu. |
| 15:58.37 | astronut | covux: it's not in about:config i'm assuming |
| 15:58.41 | greycat | ```gksu is a Gtk+ frontend to /bin/su. It supports login shells and preserving environment when acting as a su frontend. ...'' |
| 15:58.45 | zamolxes | see? other people talk to dpkg as well :) |
| 15:58.47 | greycat | oops, one too many `s |
| 15:59.00 | astronut | # which /dev/dsp wrapper to use |
| 15:59.00 | astronut | FIREFOX_DSP="auto" |
| 15:59.02 | covux | astronut: ive never searched there :-) |
| 15:59.05 | goccia | ahhh gksu it's ok |
| 15:59.07 | astronut | what do i change that to to use ALSA? |
| 15:59.19 | Gh0sty | is gnome on freenode? |
| 15:59.22 | Gh0sty | not sure :p |
| 15:59.25 | Gh0sty | lets have a look |
| 15:59.33 | stew | Gh0sty: irc.gnome.org iirc |
| 15:59.33 | astronut | Gh0sty: i believe so |
| 15:59.42 | astronut | stew: i think tha'ts a cname to freenode |
| 15:59.45 | greycat | there is a #gnome here |
| 15:59.56 | greycat | probably not as good as the one on irc.gnome.org |
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| 16:00.07 | covux | astronut: mostly this wrapper is used for flashplugin and since flash uses oss you could try aoss as wrapper |
| 16:00.08 | astronut | wait, that's kde |
| 16:00.08 | astronut | sorry |
| 16:00.15 | stew | astronut: no its a cname to irc.gnome.org |
| 16:00.22 | stew | err irc.gaim.org |
| 16:00.25 | stew | stop |
| 16:00.26 | astronut | gimp? |
| 16:00.30 | stew | that one :) |
| 16:00.43 | greycat | which is in turn a CNAME for irc.us.gimp.org |
| 16:00.45 | astronut | covux: the gmail notifier switched from running a command to playing a sound through firefox |
| 16:00.54 | astronut | how doe sthe variable work is the question |
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| 16:01.04 | astronut | need alsa for the mixing |
| 16:01.22 | goccia | covux: i have alsa but fireox plays when i get into a flash site |
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| 16:01.48 | ma3x | astronut, how do I make one button for mute, unmute? |
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| 16:02.03 | astronut | ma3x: None XF86AudioMute :ExecCommand /usr/bin/amixer sset 'PCM',0 toggle |
| 16:02.03 | covux | goccia: maybe it chooses arts wrapper when its on auto |
| 16:02.21 | astronut | my firefox i have to kill any other sound before it plays flash |
| 16:02.22 | goccia | covux: no way : arts is not welcome in here :) |
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| 16:03.04 | ma3x | thanks astronut |
| 16:03.05 | goccia | covux: i guess is a mantainer magic job : can ubuntu's follow ? |
| 16:03.08 | covux | goccia: i use aoss cause i route all my sound through dmix |
| 16:03.13 | astronut | ma3x: no problem |
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| 16:04.18 | goccia | covux: i just told apt to install firefox and i was surprised when first it played :) |
| 16:04.56 | nite613 | how can I convert an ext3 back to ext2? |
| 16:04.59 | covux | goccia: are you able to play e.g. a mp3 in xmms and flashsound simultanously? |
| 16:05.18 | JR28 | I'm actually downloading the 14 CD of the Debian.. must I take the "buisnesscard" file in the list ? |
| 16:05.29 | LSorensen | ma3x: amixer is an alsa utility for the command line. the example I gave you will work to toggle mute/unmute |
| 16:05.39 | covux | goccia: thats what i need dmix for |
| 16:05.39 | greycat | JR28: STOP! |
| 16:05.45 | JR28 | sorry ? |
| 16:05.48 | goccia | covux: going to |
| 16:05.55 | greycat | JR28: WHY are you downloading 14 CDs? |
| 16:06.10 | greycat | are you going to duplicate them and then sell them locally? |
| 16:06.24 | Gh0sty | hm, now there's a tought :p |
| 16:06.36 | JR28 | because i cannot install debian from the net (net install) |
| 16:06.43 | JR28 | my modem isn't detected |
| 16:06.45 | yeti | greycat: i think he's downloading them 'cause http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/ shows 14 CD's ;) |
| 16:06.54 | nunez | How do i uncompress par files, par2/parachive do not uncompress them |
| 16:07.01 | greycat | I think it's because he's clue-deficient. |
| 16:07.11 | Gh0sty | nunez: par files shouldn't be uncompressed |
| 16:07.14 | greycat | which fact is further evidenced by his possession of a winmodem |
| 16:07.15 | LSorensen | ma3x: what sound chip do you have? |
| 16:07.20 | JR28 | not at all greenfly.. i don't sell anythinh |
| 16:07.32 | Gh0sty | par files contain some kind of checksum and fixing information |
| 16:07.33 | nunez | Gh0sty: I've downloaded them from newsgroups, there has to be a way to do it |
| 16:07.42 | ma3x | LSorensen, I'm not sure... conexant is the card name |
| 16:07.47 | ma3x | the chip is either ali or trident |
| 16:07.47 | greycat | JR28: you are downloading a WHOLE LOTTA SHIT you will never, ever use. |
| 16:07.48 | Gh0sty | usually for a bunch of rars |
| 16:07.55 | greycat | JR28: just get ISO #1 and nothing else. |
| 16:08.09 | zinx | hell |
| 16:08.18 | zinx | just get the business card cd |
| 16:08.19 | ma3x | greycat, where can you download those 14 cds? i've never seen that on debian.org |
| 16:08.22 | Gh0sty | nunez: take a look at this: http://www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=6 |
| 16:08.33 | zinx | ma3x: didn't look very hard, did you? |
| 16:08.33 | JR28 | really ? |
| 16:08.56 | JR28 | why 14 CD so ? |
| 16:08.58 | ma3x | zinx, not at all, Just seen the netinstall, floppies ... |
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| 16:09.14 | ma3x | but 14 CDs, that 's crazy |
| 16:09.19 | greycat | JR28: because #14 has "Ed's quitessential tools for the amoeba microbiologist" |
| 16:09.21 | ma3x | why would you ever need 14 cds/ |
| 16:09.28 | zinx | ma3x: the netinstall/business card cds are what sane people download.. JR28 clearly is not sane :) |
| 16:09.29 | JR28 | sorry but i'm an new user of linux |
| 16:09.30 | greycat | +n |
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| 16:09.36 | greycat | JR28: just get ISO #1 and then install from that. |
| 16:09.46 | JR28 | ok thank you :) |
| 16:09.47 | zinx | ma3x: you wouldn't |
| 16:09.48 | greycat | JR28: and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T USE WINMODEMS! |
| 16:09.49 | ma3x | JR are you microbiologist ? :) |
| 16:09.51 | JR28 | but why 14 CD so ? |
| 16:09.55 | JR28 | no ma3x lol |
| 16:09.56 | Gh0sty | i always download first cd |
| 16:10.14 | JR28 | winmodem ?! |
| 16:10.15 | zinx | JR28: there are 14 cds because there is 14 cds worth of packages in debian; you have no use for most of the packages |
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| 16:10.24 | Gh0sty | if hardware doesn't work straight away at least you can install basic setup and then recompile kernel and add drivers if needed |
| 16:10.26 | greycat | JR28: you said your "modem" was not detected. |
| 16:10.35 | greycat | I conclude, therefore, that it's no modem at all, but rather, a Winmodem. |
| 16:10.37 | LSorensen | ma3x: lspci -n |grep 0401 |
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| 16:10.42 | LSorensen | ma3x: that will list your sound chip |
| 16:10.48 | greycat | either that or you are *really* clueless. |
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| 16:11.39 | JR28 | no i got a modem/routeur (sorry i don't know how it's called in english) |
| 16:11.46 | Georgee | hi, how would i open an RPM in linux? I tried dpkg and ./ but neither work |
| 16:11.47 | Georgee | any ideas? |
| 16:11.48 | ma3x | 0000:00:06.0 0401: 10b9:5451 (rev 02) |
| 16:11.48 | nunez | Gh0sty: hmm, I have a much of blah.001-blah.500 etc.. types |
| 16:11.49 | yeti | JR28: you will very probably need only the first two CDs, they contain everything you will need for a start |
| 16:11.55 | JR28 | my mother card has a LAN controller |
| 16:11.56 | ma3x | LSorensen, what do you conclude from that output? |
| 16:12.01 | nunez | Gh0sty: I've tried to cat them to a file, but it doesnt work |
| 16:12.04 | greycat | Georgee: don't. get a .deb instead. |
| 16:12.12 | Gh0sty | JR28: winmodem = basicaly 1 chip which puts telephone info to digital info, the driver (only windows drivers available in 99% of the cases which explains the name) a real modem does it all in hardware |
| 16:12.25 | Georgee | greycat: its the only thing available on LimeWire |
| 16:12.26 | Gh0sty | nunez: if you have those files then its a multipart zip or rar |
| 16:12.32 | Gh0sty | try unzip or unrar |
| 16:12.39 | LSorensen | ma3x: why is it in the last week EVERYONE has a @#$@#$ ALI sound chip in their laptops? |
| 16:12.49 | JR28 | ok Gh0sty but i'm on the LAN in fact |
| 16:12.50 | Gh0sty | the par files are extra data files if one or more of the zip files is broken |
| 16:12.52 | greycat | Georgee: if I hated you (and I'm starting to...), I'd just tell you to use alien and enjoy the pain. |
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| 16:13.00 | LSorensen | ma3x: where did these ali based laptops come from? |
| 16:13.05 | greycat | I can't be arsed to find out what the "right" answer is. |
| 16:13.23 | Gh0sty | it contains enough checksum data to recover rars or zips based on the good files |
| 16:13.25 | ma3x | LSorensen, the great inventor Hewlet Packard!~ |
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| 16:13.36 | greycat | But I know for sure, any question to which "a Limewire RPM" is a potential answer, can't be the right question in the first place. |
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| 16:13.40 | LSorensen | ma3x: oh dear. yet another outsourced model with random hardware |
| 16:13.46 | astronut | covux: you there? |
| 16:14.42 | LSorensen | ma3x: well add snd-ali5451 to /etc/modules, and on next boot you should be running alsa. also apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 16:14.42 | covux | astronut: yep. sorry when ive mist a question. |
| 16:14.47 | astronut | covux: trying to set it for alsa, but not sure how... |
| 16:14.57 | LSorensen | ma3x: then you should be able to use alsamixer and amixer (for scripting like keys) to control it |
| 16:15.01 | astronut | covux: if i knew how it worked.... |
| 16:15.14 | LSorensen | ma3x: assuming you are running sarge with a 2.6 kernel |
| 16:15.20 | ma3x | LSorensen, I already run all that |
| 16:15.25 | covux | astronut: what soundcard do you have? |
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| 16:15.29 | LSorensen | ma3x: does alsamixer already work? |
| 16:15.32 | ma3x | ali5451 is already default |
| 16:15.38 | ma3x | LSorensen, yes, perfect! |
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| 16:15.50 | takatumi | ali5451 works like a charm here. |
| 16:15.58 | LSorensen | ma3x: does 'amixer sset Master toggle' work? |
| 16:15.58 | nunez | Gh0sty: Weird, I dont have anything like that I have a blah.par2 and a blah.sit.0-600 |
| 16:16.00 | astronut | covux: nforce audio...intel soundcard |
| 16:16.12 | ma3x | LSorensen, yes! |
| 16:16.16 | astronut | covux: i have SW mixing, i just need to get FF to use it |
| 16:16.23 | LSorensen | ma3x: so tie that to your mute key |
| 16:16.42 | ma3x | LSorensen, I tied it to another. The default mute key is undetectable :) |
| 16:16.42 | LSorensen | ma3x: similar commands can be made for voume up/down keys |
| 16:16.43 | Gh0sty | nunez: the 0-600 files are zip or rar multipart files |
| 16:16.47 | george_007 | Where in XF86config-4 should I put line from xvidtune: "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 |
| 16:16.52 | Gh0sty | try unzip or unrar on the first one of those |
| 16:16.57 | LSorensen | ma3x: no key code for it? not nice of it |
| 16:16.58 | astronut | ma3x: i showed you volume up/down ;-) |
| 16:16.58 | covux | astronut: sw mixing throught dmix, artsd, esd? |
| 16:17.03 | nunez | Gh0sty: doesnt work |
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| 16:17.05 | astronut | covux: alsa |
| 16:17.10 | ma3x | astronut, yes its great! |
| 16:17.10 | astronut | dmix i believe |
| 16:17.17 | astronut | is the one it's called |
| 16:17.36 | astronut | the native alsa one |
| 16:17.38 | greycat | george_007: you'll have to create a whole modelines section for it. google should help. |
| 16:17.42 | ma3x | I don't have dmix |
| 16:17.44 | covux | astronut: do u have a .asoundrc file in youre home dir |
| 16:17.49 | ma3x | last time I tried to install it ,failed |
| 16:17.53 | astronut | covux: yes |
| 16:17.59 | astronut | like i said, everything else mixes fine |
| 16:18.01 | astronut | just not firefox |
| 16:18.04 | Gh0sty | nunez: have a google for multipart compressed archives, perhaps that will come up with something |
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| 16:18.09 | cyzie | anyone know how to forward (am i using the correct term, forward?) X to another PC? something like vnc in windows |
| 16:18.13 | ma3x | astronut, whats wrong with ff? |
| 16:18.20 | greycat | cyzie: /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 16:18.31 | Gh0sty | cyzie: yes |
| 16:19.01 | cyzie | thanks greycat |
| 16:19.07 | Gh0sty | turn on the xforward value on sshd |
| 16:19.09 | astronut | ma3x: it needs nothing using the device to play sound...as if it was an old oss program |
| 16:19.16 | Gh0sty | and start x without the no-listen switches |
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| 16:19.27 | astronut | oss need exclusitivity (mplayer is set for that cause dmix was choppy) |
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| 16:21.56 | LSorensen | Gh0sty: the no listen has nothing to do with ssh x forwarding. |
| 16:22.07 | LSorensen | Gh0sty: changing that is still not recomended |
| 16:22.17 | covux | astronut: so what you exactly want to archieve is that gmail can play through firefox and flashsound works? |
| 16:22.29 | astronut | covux: all FF sound |
| 16:22.29 | LSorensen | Gh0sty: all that is needed is the X forward setting on the sshd server and to have xauth installed on the sshd server |
| 16:22.30 | astronut | hmm |
| 16:22.30 | goccia | covux: ok i've done it : i'm running firefox1.0.6 form sid on sarge and there are problems :1) sometimes it can't find flashplugin 2) i cannot run xmms while using firefox :) |
| 16:22.35 | astronut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:22.44 | astronut | in pcm.dsp0 |
| 16:22.54 | astronut | one sec, let me talk to #alsa |
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| 16:23.25 | IronTalon | 'lo all, and fellow NTLer |
| 16:23.50 | Gh0sty | LSorensen: yeah sorry i was confused :) |
| 16:24.04 | Gh0sty | i have both local and remote x-servers running ... |
| 16:25.27 | LSorensen | Gh0sty: it took me a while to discover that xauth on the server was key :) |
| 16:25.31 | Tony_Sidaway | Using Debian stable. Would appreciate pointers on how to recover after accidentally deleting everything under /dev. Is there a script to recreate them all? A package to install? |
| 16:25.42 | covux | goccia: what soundcard you use? |
| 16:25.47 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: hmm, MAKEDEV can create some of them |
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| 16:25.52 | kelt | is there a way to ghost my debian machine to another machine on the network? |
| 16:26.09 | Tony_Sidaway | LSorensen: Thanks, I'll give it a go. |
| 16:26.14 | goccia | covux: ah this is a old yahmaha opl |
| 16:26.21 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: of course you have to tell it a lot of things to make |
| 16:26.31 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: I think the install normalyl creates /dev |
| 16:26.42 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: another option is switching to udev, although that isn't excactly perfect |
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| 16:27.12 | kelt | basically I want to make a backup of my debian webserver onto a new machine and use it as a backup if something happens to my first webserver |
| 16:27.13 | covux | gocci: kde or gnome? |
| 16:27.16 | Tony_Sidaway | Oh I wonder is I do a dpkg search on /dev stuff. Just refresh whatever base packages... |
| 16:27.36 | chris | kelt: i like booting both machines into knoppix, on the origional do dd if=/dev/hda | netcat ip 8000 and on the 'to be ghosted' netcat -l -p 8000 | dd of=/dev/hda |
| 16:27.39 | kelt | I was thinking of purchasing Norton Ghost, but I wanted to know if there was another way... perhaps better |
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| 16:27.52 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: unfortunately I don't think /dev belongs to a package. I think debootstrap/d-i creates them |
| 16:27.52 | goccia | covux: kde but i don't give any more chances to kde sound system : i'm happy like this :) |
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| 16:28.15 | goccia | covux: you see ? i'm enjoing firefox1.0.6 ... |
| 16:28.18 | Tony_Sidaway | LSorensen: Thanks for the insights. I shouldn't have much trouble. |
| 16:28.30 | kelt | chris: could I setup a script to do this automatically for me? |
| 16:29.01 | chris | kell: you could...are you trying to do nightly backups ? |
| 16:29.12 | kelt | chris: well something like that |
| 16:29.25 | covux | goccia: if you can live with just closing all soundproducing apps before watching flashfilm or visiting flashbased hp in firefox we are done ;-) |
| 16:29.28 | kelt | I wanted it to be automatic, I donno about every night, but maybe |
| 16:29.32 | chris | keli: i would look into rdiff-backup or rsync, they're more suited towards this and can be automated |
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| 16:30.36 | Bac9 | is there any way to get all allsa apps to use dmix and not ust the apps of the current user? (so that I can have system daemons and regular apps play sound)? |
| 16:30.41 | kelt | chris: okay, thanks... rdiff-backup will make backups of the harddrive? like config and scripts and everything? :) |
| 16:30.53 | kelt | I'll go look it up on google |
| 16:31.21 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: try: /var/lib/dpkg/info/makedev.postinst |
| 16:31.30 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: that appears to create /dev |
| 16:31.32 | MDC | is there a package that does the following automagical at bootup? echo "engage scsi" > /proc/driver/xxx , cause i'd like to do it the debian way... |
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| 16:31.35 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: well most of it |
| 16:31.52 | LSorensen | MDC: what does that do? |
| 16:31.59 | covux | goccia: otherwise you have to choose one of softwaremixing options like arts,esd soundwrapper or dmix (dmix is not to easy to configure) |
| 16:32.13 | LSorensen | MDC: the devian way is to create a script to do it in /etc/init.d and add it to /etc/rcS.d with a symlink and the level to run at |
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| 16:33.18 | Kumpel | hingwah, anyone here using vlc with snd_emu10k1 over SPDIF for ac3 and dts sound in dvds ? |
| 16:33.55 | Tony_Sidaway | LSorensen: I'm running a MAKEDEV -v update now and it seems to be quite busy! :) |
| 16:34.00 | LSorensen | Kumpel: using alsa? |
| 16:34.09 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: no idea what that option does. |
| 16:34.20 | LSorensen | Tony_Sidaway: the makedev.postinst runs MAKEDEV with a bunch of options though |
| 16:34.22 | Tony_Sidaway | LSorensen: -v is just verbose. |
| 16:34.32 | MDC | LSorensen: you're right but i thought it might exists a packages that did it, i'll have to issue that command to find my tape on the scsi controller.. |
| 16:34.35 | Tony_Sidaway | I'll try the postinst now |
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| 16:34.36 | Kumpel | LSorensen, yes |
| 16:34.46 | LSorensen | Kumpel: does vlc use the alsa interface? |
| 16:35.00 | LSorensen | MDC: odd. |
| 16:35.13 | LSorensen | MDC: I would have thought it just detected tape drives if the scsi tape module was loaded |
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| 16:35.34 | Kumpel | LSorensen, jep - i have sound breaks for half a second every 2 minutes |
| 16:35.50 | LSorensen | Kumpel: have you tried mplayer or xine or something in case it is a vlc problem? |
| 16:36.03 | LSorensen | Kumpel: I don't have anything to connect to psdif so I never tried it |
| 16:36.06 | eXistenZ | what is the main package for tex? |
| 16:36.10 | Kumpel | LSorensen, sure - with xine no problem ! |
| 16:36.12 | goccia | covux: yes i know : i was just saying firefox works like a charm in debian , no need to complain for crappy macromedia applets nor for frame injections expoloits : i run sarge and i'm very very happy and for all we know todady : SAFE ! |
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| 16:36.49 | LSorensen | Kumpel: well must be a bug in vlc. if it is reproduceable, maybe file a bug |
| 16:36.58 | LSorensen | eXistenZ: tetex-bin? |
| 16:37.12 | Gumby | can anyone lend a quik hand. I am trying to install a package and it is conflicting with another. The only conflict is one image file. I am trying to use --force-conflicts but I must not be doing it right. Can anyone suggest a better way or the proper syntax? I have tried dpkg -i --force-conflicts packagename.deb and also dpkg -i packagename --force-conflicts |
| 16:37.24 | MDC | LSorensen, I thought so too, it could have something todo with the cciss driver.. |
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| 16:37.41 | Kumpel | LSorensen, ok |
| 16:37.45 | goccia | covux: it is mozilla foundation not debian (i heard today ) going the wrong side :) |
| 16:38.33 | goccia | covux: and xmms too :) |
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| 16:39.12 | flosch | hi |
| 16:39.47 | flosch | i'm getting tons of "the drive appears confused" messages, does anybody know what it mean? |
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| 16:40.34 | covux | goccia: yep.. :-) |
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| 16:40.47 | cddesjar | if i wanted to run windows xp via vmware workstation, should i get the vmware workstation for linux or for windows? ii know this may seem like a rather stupid question. |
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| 16:41.06 | guk | vmware for linux |
| 16:41.14 | guk | because vmware for windows RUNS on windows |
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| 16:41.38 | zacem | How i add php4 for apache ? |
| 16:41.55 | stew | zacem: apt-get install php4 |
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| 16:42.40 | zacem | stew: i install php4 but now working php4 |
| 16:42.55 | JoshH | libapache-mod-php4 |
| 16:43.02 | JoshH | add the php lines to httpd.conf |
| 16:43.06 | JoshH | or it wont work |
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| 16:43.15 | stew | zacem: uncomment the AddType line for .php in httpd.conf |
| 16:43.16 | SoTMaR | Hi everybody |
| 16:43.16 | cddesjar | thanks guk |
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| 16:43.28 | covux | zacem: and dont forget to restart apache :-) |
| 16:43.41 | JoshH | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 16:43.41 | JoshH | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.45 | takatumi | how mature is text to speech software? would listening to a large book be intellible? |
| 16:43.56 | takatumi | /li/ligi |
| 16:43.58 | LSorensen | MDC: cciss as in compaq? |
| 16:44.01 | JoshH | LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so |
| 16:44.01 | JoshH | AddModule mod_php4.c |
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| 16:44.05 | JoshH | the path will be different on debian though |
| 16:44.09 | Isarian | How to I get to an SRM prompt on an alpha that's set to autoboot? |
| 16:44.17 | rghrd | Whenever i start X, i get 'GLcore does not exist' |
| 16:44.17 | silverbb | I'm trying to install libgdl-1-dev, but synaptic complains about libgdl-1.0 is not going to be installed. How do I fix this? |
| 16:44.21 | zacem | Thanks all :) |
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| 16:45.00 | Lumination | does anyone know of a program to get rid of files with duplicate checksums, leaving only one? |
| 16:45.04 | Isarian | I tried Ctrl+C but nothin happened |
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| 16:45.19 | LSorensen | Isarian: hit escape before it boots |
| 16:45.20 | Pupeno | Hello. |
| 16:45.31 | cappiz | how do i change the splash during GNOME loading? |
| 16:46.13 | JoshH | cappiz: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8 |
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| 16:47.27 | MDC | LSorensen: yes, the server is a HP proliant 380 |
| 16:47.32 | Pupeno | I Have a Debian 3.0 where I'd like to have a clean sources.list (that is, with the official Debian repositories, for 3.0, and nothing more). Where can I get a template and a list of mirrors or something like that ? |
| 16:47.42 | greycat | just run apt-setup |
| 16:47.50 | LSorensen | Isarian: here is the srm console manual: http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/info/semiconductor/literature/srmcons.pdf |
| 16:48.09 | Pupeno | # apt-setup |
| 16:48.09 | Pupeno | su: apt-setup: command not found |
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| 16:49.18 | Pupeno | It seems I do not have apt-setup installed. |
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| 16:49.46 | redspike | Hi, I have a Windows 2003 server with AD, and have sucessefuly set up samba and winbind so i can mount my windows shares, but i dont get the premissions on files in linux that i have set in windows 2003 ad, how can i change the privs in ad (win2k3) from Linux/Samba? |
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| 16:50.07 | Pupeno | Any other way to achieve my goals (or a way to install apt-setup wihout apt) ? |
| 16:50.21 | zacem | stew: i add php for apache but i try to apache and see save screen for file this why ? |
| 16:50.39 | stew | zacem: you need an AddType line for .php |
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| 16:50.58 | SoTMaR | stew, have you cleaned the cache of the browser? |
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| 16:51.01 | zacem | stew: i add line php for apache! |
| 16:51.04 | stew | SoTMaR: nope |
| 16:51.10 | cappiz | JoshH thanks alot :D |
| 16:51.12 | stew | zacem: and restarted apache? |
| 16:51.14 | zacem | stew: This is AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 16:51.15 | zacem | AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps |
| 16:51.18 | zacem | stew: yes |
| 16:51.59 | stew | zacem: do you have a LoadModule line for mod_php4? |
| 16:52.29 | stew | or libphp4 whatever, it's called... |
| 16:52.32 | zacem | stew: httpd.conf ? |
| 16:52.39 | greycat | !find apt-setup$ woody |
| 16:53.06 | JoshH | zacem: yes, httpd.conf |
| 16:53.12 | zacem | Oh! |
| 16:53.18 | JoshH | it should be just like the line i posted earlier except with a different path to the module |
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| 16:53.28 | JoshH | im not sure where the modules are on debian atm |
| 16:53.30 | Isarian | LSorensen: Thank you very much :) |
| 16:53.56 | JoshH | see where the other modules are in httpd.conf and copy one of them |
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| 16:54.38 | zacem | JoshH: How loadmodule satire write to me please.. |
| 16:54.53 | zacem | JoshH: Loadmodule mod_php4 ? |
| 16:55.09 | rghrd | Whenever i start X, i get 'failed to load module GLcore, module GLcore does not exist'. |
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| 16:56.36 | zacem | stew: How loadmodule satire write to me please.. |
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| 16:57.14 | stew | LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so |
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| 16:57.21 | stew | satire? |
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| 16:59.09 | zacem | stew: Thanks. |
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| 16:59.26 | greycat | I don't think that word means what he thinks it means. |
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| 17:00.40 | silverbb | how do I force apt-get to get an experimental package? |
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| 17:01.15 | JoshH | apt-get install -t experimental <package> |
| 17:01.29 | JoshH | but as the saying goes |
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| 17:01.35 | Spec | greycat: who/which word? |
| 17:01.37 | JoshH | if you have to ask, you shouldnt use experimental ;) |
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| 17:01.50 | silverbb | :-D |
| 17:01.52 | johnga1t | what's the best way (w/o opening box) to see what chipset a debian box is running? |
| 17:01.55 | muhoo | php4-4.3.10 won't build on sid, patches fail. how can i get it to build? |
| 17:02.05 | JoshH | johnga1t: lspci, dmesg |
| 17:02.07 | Spec | johnga1t: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:02.28 | johnga1t | Spec: this gives cpu speed, not chipset, right? |
| 17:02.37 | Spec | not sure, it might? :p |
| 17:02.38 | JoshH | right |
| 17:02.39 | muhoo | in fact, it looks like every single patch fails. |
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| 17:02.41 | johnga1t | JoshH: thanks. |
| 17:03.26 | johnga1t | anyone here using intel's 915g chipset under debina? |
| 17:03.34 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 17:03.34 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 17:03.34 | muhoo | and, of course, i'm on a deadline and desperately need php4 (building it to link with libmysql14) |
| 17:03.46 | JoshH | muhoo: whats the build error |
| 17:03.54 | muhoo | JoshH: #flood? |
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| 17:04.08 | greycat | if it's an X question, try the VESA driver in XFree, or X.org. |
| 17:04.12 | JoshH | i just joined |
| 17:04.18 | valdyn_ | johnga1t: lspci |
| 17:04.25 | johnga1t | valdyn_: thanks. |
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| 17:04.38 | muhoo | >000-200503131325_CVS.patch fails, basically |
| 17:04.56 | JoshH | applying the patch fails? |
| 17:05.27 | Spec | muhoo: i don't get it, you're on a deadline and you're using sid? |
| 17:06.19 | RogueDopple | smart |
| 17:06.53 | cbr | muhoo: yeah, better try like gentoo or ubuntu or smth 8) |
| 17:07.02 | Spec | or...stable debian... |
| 17:07.03 | idimmu | i think people knock sid too much, especially in production environments |
| 17:07.08 | JoshH | ok muhoo first, delete the source directory, extract it again, and try applying the patch again, thats what i need to see |
| 17:07.08 | muhoo | Spec: my dev box has been sid for years now |
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| 17:07.11 | muhoo | Spec: the post-sarge-release dist-upgrade destroyed me utterly |
| 17:07.16 | codex | Are there open-office 2 debs? |
| 17:07.25 | cbr | yes |
| 17:07.33 | idimmu | the post-sarge-release dist-upgrade worked totally fine for me |
| 17:07.33 | cbr | somewhere on openoffice.org |
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| 17:07.53 | Spec | idimmu: want a cookie? |
| 17:07.58 | JoshH | i was already running sid before sarge, and haven't dist-upgraded since i first installed the box, so i havent had a problem |
| 17:07.58 | muhoo | thanks. i'm not getting into a distro flamewar. i like debian. i like sid. i don't run production on sid, never have. but my dev/testing box is. |
| 17:08.01 | idimmu | sure |
| 17:08.23 | Spec | muhoo: okay, that's good :p |
| 17:08.25 | JoshH | dist-upgrading a box that's already running sid is bad |
| 17:08.27 | muhoo | btw, the dist-upgrade on my stable boxes went just swimmingly. nice work, folks! |
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| 17:08.38 | valdyn_ | JoshH: bullshit. |
| 17:09.01 | johnga1t | anyone using debian w/ 915g chipset? |
| 17:09.19 | JoshH | valdyn_: do it if you want, it's your box. |
| 17:09.25 | Spec | !anyone use |
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| 17:09.28 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 17:10.11 | johnga1t | Spec: why doesn't anyone use? |
| 17:10.19 | muhoo | JoshH: tell you what. i'm going to delete everything in my scratch dir and apt-get -b source php4-mysql again |
| 17:10.27 | Spec | read what dpkg has to say |
| 17:10.43 | JoshH | muhoo: well what you posted was just the messages saying the previous patch was detected |
| 17:10.51 | JoshH | i need to see if it applied cleanly the first time |
| 17:11.00 | muhoo | JoshH: k. |
| 17:11.20 | mops | how to prevent /sbin/getty from respawning when killed? |
| 17:11.29 | muhoo | hmm. dist-upgrading is bad? didn't know that. been doing it for 4 years now. |
| 17:11.30 | valdyn_ | mops: edit /etc/inittab |
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| 17:11.34 | mops | because I killed 3 of them(there were 6 naturally) |
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| 17:11.57 | mops | I have commented out last 3 lines :( |
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| 17:12.03 | mops | 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 |
| 17:12.05 | gearry | can somebody tell me what packaged contains pg_config |
| 17:12.06 | mops | is commented |
| 17:12.12 | gearry | I have not been able to find it |
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| 17:12.35 | JoshH | muhoo: dist-upgrade will remove packages if the dependencies aren't sorted out yet, upgrade is safer. then you can try upgrading other packages one at a time to see if there are any problems. |
| 17:12.38 | sep | mops, reboot, (restart init) |
| 17:12.41 | mops | and also 4,5 are commented too |
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| 17:12.50 | mops | sep, so reboot is needed, hmm |
| 17:12.52 | JoshH | also, these days you should use aptitude |
| 17:12.54 | valdyn_ | mops: restart inetd ( /etc/init.d/inetd restart ) |
| 17:12.57 | mops | ok, thanks a lot |
| 17:13.06 | johnga1t | Spec: k ... have read. find it cryptic. is the chipset annoying driver-wise? |
| 17:13.22 | johnga1t | what are people's favorite sites for ordering barebones pcs (that are debian-friendly) |
| 17:13.23 | sep | mops, what you hope to gain by removing 3 ttys ? |
| 17:13.32 | mops | valdyn_: inetd, ISN'T running... |
| 17:13.34 | Spec | i haven't a clue, i don't have that chipset |
| 17:13.36 | muhoo | JoshH: ok, thanks |
| 17:13.42 | JoshH | johnga1t: newegg, zipzoomfly |
| 17:13.43 | mops | sep: good feeling :) |
| 17:13.52 | mops | and 3 less lines in ps axu :) |
| 17:14.07 | muhoo | JoshH: ok, i think i see what the problem is |
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| 17:14.17 | sep | johnga1t, you realy inteterested in norwegian webshops ? :P |
| 17:14.32 | johnga1t | sep: not so much :) |
| 17:14.33 | muhoo | i need to extract the source, then change the dsc and build/control to change the dependency to libmysql14. |
| 17:14.47 | muhoo | apparently, i'm doing that on a tree that has patches already applied, and that's dumb. |
| 17:14.54 | valdyn_ | mops: ops sorry, just run 'init q' |
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| 17:15.21 | JoshH | i would say that if you got a php patch from CVS, you should only try it on php downloaded from php.net, not the debian source. but ive never tried it either way. |
| 17:15.34 | muhoo | JoshH: i'm not applying any patch from cvs |
| 17:15.49 | mops | and where it is documented that 'init q'? |
| 17:15.53 | muhoo | all that is in the actual debian/rules file |
| 17:15.58 | JoshH | ah, i see |
| 17:16.03 | mops | aha, ok |
| 17:16.12 | neopopular | hello i have a problem with iptables,, when i entry it rule iptables -t filter -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p udp -j DROP .. my pc cant resolv a domian |
| 17:16.14 | muhoo | the maintainers of this package like to be very current, i suppose ;-) |
| 17:16.20 | muhoo | good for them |
| 17:16.26 | JoshH | it should be 4.4.0 then ;) |
| 17:16.29 | mops | valdyn_: thanks a lot for help |
| 17:16.31 | muhoo | heh |
| 17:16.31 | neopopular | my firewall posted in http://pastebin.com/329315 |
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| 17:17.06 | s_ward | neopopular, DNS needs UDP *and* TCP port 53 |
| 17:17.19 | muhoo | ok, where is the faq entry on how to make changes to a package using the new system? |
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| 17:18.21 | muhoo | debhelper has changed a lot since i last used it in 2003 ;-) |
| 17:18.52 | neopopular | s_ward first to add this iptables -t filter -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT |
| 17:19.13 | s_ward | neopopular, I saw, sorry, jumped in early |
| 17:19.34 | eXistenZ | how can I mount iso images |
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| 17:19.56 | streuner | exobyte: mount -o loop /blah.iso /foo |
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| 17:20.03 | muhoo | JoshH: let me rephrase. i want to make changes to this already-patched tree, and build it. |
| 17:20.06 | streuner | eXistenZ: ^^ |
| 17:20.08 | abrotman | neopopular: did you ask #iptables ? |
| 17:20.16 | neopopular | s_ward iptables -t filter -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT iptables -t filter -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p udp -j DROP |
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| 17:20.34 | neopopular | but i cant resolv a domain |
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| 17:21.16 | eXistenZ | yo streuner =) |
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| 17:21.53 | abrotman | neopopular: ask #iptables .. but i'm fairly certain that DNS opens a random UDP port to listen on .. and well .. you've blocked all them |
| 17:21.59 | abrotman | and i mean a DNS query |
| 17:22.19 | stew | neopopular: you would also need to accept outgoing packages to dport 53 and incoming related package |
| 17:23.09 | abrotman | stew: he's not blocking out . is he? |
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| 17:23.18 | stew | who knows? |
| 17:23.32 | abrotman | yes .. ask #iptables ... |
| 17:23.37 | neopopular | abrotman i want block all udp scanner with that rule |
| 17:23.48 | abrotman | neopopular: ask #iptables .. |
| 17:23.54 | stew | but --dport probably should have been --sport |
| 17:24.12 | stew | or just accepted through a ESTABLISHED rule |
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| 17:24.38 | web | is there a way to install debian on a running system |
| 17:24.38 | abrotman | neopopular: you're not doing a ESTABLISHED for UDP .. ask #iptables .. please |
| 17:24.45 | stew | oh right |
| 17:24.46 | abrotman | !tell web about debootstrap |
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| 17:24.53 | abrotman | !tell web about debtakeover |
| 17:24.55 | synstar | I've installed pure-ftpd - but i cant connect to it via ftp localhost. It displays service not available? |
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| 17:26.14 | muhoo | advice? |
| 17:27.07 | abrotman | synstar: start it |
| 17:27.47 | web | abrotman: can those things go as a far as format the hd and install from scratch ? |
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| 17:28.12 | abrotman | web: uhm .. debtakeover maybe .. why can't you do a fresh install ? |
| 17:28.22 | web | abrotman: cause the box is 60 miles away |
| 17:28.35 | abrotman | web: you need a car! |
| 17:28.47 | muhoo | debian/rules unpatch worked ;-) |
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| 17:28.57 | synstar | abrotman, when i enter '/usr/sbin/pure-ftpd &' i get 'Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use' |
| 17:28.59 | web | abrotman: yes thats the last resort.... rather save many hours |
| 17:29.15 | abrotman | synstar: that would be the WRONG way to start it |
| 17:29.31 | abrotman | web: try reading the stuff for debootstrap .. i've never used it |
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| 17:29.39 | greycat | synstar: lsof -i :21 |
| 17:30.03 | synstar | abrotman: how do i start it? |
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| 17:30.16 | cokecan | Good day all! |
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| 17:30.20 | abrotman | synstar: do what greycat said first |
| 17:30.33 | eeyore- | hmm, debian has moved to installing packages with verification? interesting |
| 17:30.43 | cddesjar | where would the directory for my C header files be located for my current running kernel? |
| 17:30.45 | synstar | abrotman, inetd 7045 root 4u IPv4 10425 TCP *:ftp (LISTEN) |
| 17:31.13 | cokecan | So I was sitting at school today, and I was missing my Debian machine, so |
| 17:31.16 | cokecan | oops |
| 17:31.23 | eeyore- | cddesjar: you don't need kernel headers for compiling many programs. you need the headers that the libc was compiled with at the time |
| 17:31.24 | cokecan | So I got to thinking |
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| 17:31.38 | cokecan | How can I remote desktop my debian machine? |
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| 17:31.43 | cddesjar | i'm trying to install vmware workstation and it's asking me about the location of my c headers |
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| 17:32.15 | tag | How do I setup my X to accept connections from another system again? |
| 17:32.30 | eeyore- | how do i get dselect to install packages *and* do the verification? |
| 17:32.32 | greycat | cddesjar: you mean your KERNEL headers? apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 17:32.57 | eeyore- | it's asking me, "install these packages without verification?", and i just installed gnupg, but it doesn't seem to want to verify them :-p |
| 17:32.59 | RogueDopple | cokecan: use openssh |
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| 17:33.11 | RogueDopple | tag: why would you do such a thing |
| 17:33.25 | cokecan | Will that work from Windows? I am on Windows at school |
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| 17:33.29 | tag | RogueDopple: So I can run X apps on another system thats what X was designed for? |
| 17:33.32 | kbrooks | !qotd71 |
| 17:33.32 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd71 is <kbrooks> i believe /var gets rm -rf'd at every boot |
| 17:33.35 | RogueDopple | cokecan: you ssh to the box |
| 17:33.38 | RogueDopple | from windows |
| 17:33.41 | RogueDopple | using putty |
| 17:33.47 | greycat | tag: the X protocol is designed for it, yes. |
| 17:33.50 | RogueDopple | tag: use openssh |
| 17:33.57 | RogueDopple | ssh in |
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| 17:34.00 | tag | RogueDopple: open ssh to connect to my display? |
| 17:34.01 | RogueDopple | forward your X |
| 17:34.11 | tag | RogueDopple: Not familiar |
| 17:34.16 | streuner | !tell RogueDopple about enter |
| 17:34.34 | cokecan | How do I do it? |
| 17:34.41 | RogueDopple | mah ssh |
| 17:35.17 | harfooz | hi all -- I've been using the netinstall iso for my installations. Our LUG is wanting to do an install-fest next month. Should I dl the 14 CD isos to have, or is that overkill? |
| 17:35.30 | tag | RogueDopple: I don't quite get how that is going to work, can you provide more details? |
| 17:35.44 | cddesjar | thanks greycat |
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| 17:36.08 | c01100011 | i want to switch from hotplug to usbmgr to reduce my boot time, but usbmgr doesn't detect my usbkeyboard/hub |
| 17:36.26 | RogueDopple | www.openssh.com hmmm manuals/ man ssh && man sshd_config |
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| 17:37.10 | cbr | when you install xorg to sid and it says that it conflicts with xfree, should you use the -f flag to force it? |
| 17:37.15 | tag | RogueDopple: How is that going to get my X apps on the remote machine to connect to my local X server, that doesn't make any sense |
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| 17:37.35 | kbrooks | i'm on knoppix and i demand help |
| 17:37.42 | greycat | what -f flag would that be? |
| 17:37.46 | cbr | force |
| 17:37.50 | cbr | for apt-get |
| 17:37.55 | cbr | it didnt work though |
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| 17:38.03 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.03 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.05 | streuner | cbr: migration to xorg is usually wihtout pain |
| 17:38.11 | silverbb | tag: the traffic to the X server is tunnelled thru the ssh connection. That is to make it a secure connection. |
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| 17:38.11 | greycat | you could try NOT being stupid next time.... |
| 17:38.20 | J_P | hi all |
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| 17:38.21 | kbrooks | i'm on knoppix and i demand help |
| 17:38.22 | kbrooks | i'm on knoppix and i demand help |
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| 17:38.31 | J_P | people, anyone here use clamav in sarge ? |
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| 17:38.50 | tag | silverbb: Oh -o ForwardX11 ? |
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| 17:39.19 | J_P | i am install here but in boot show this message : Warning : "This version ingine of clamav in outdated". Don't PANIC. |
| 17:39.38 | RogueDopple | so um don't panic |
| 17:39.40 | J_P | security team sill be relaese new stable version of clamav ? |
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| 17:39.56 | simonrvn | J_P: yes, see volatile |
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| 17:40.23 | MegaByte | Hey, do you know how do I redirect the sound that a program is doing to a file? |
| 17:40.25 | tag | that doesn't seem to work so hot |
| 17:40.29 | MegaByte | can be a wav file |
| 17:40.31 | J_P | simonrvn: repeat you sentence with other words please ! |
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| 17:40.56 | s_ward | J_P, /msg dpkg volatile |
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| 17:41.05 | greycat | MegaByte: vsound |
| 17:41.08 | streuner | dpkg, volatile |
| 17:41.08 | dpkg | [volatile] debian-volatile, a project aiming to gather fast moving targets in an own "release" system. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.net/ |
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| 17:41.33 | basix | i have a debian router / firewall server which is NATing all computers @ my place. the problem is that I can't send email using outlook express or any email client. do i need to open up some ports in my firewall? |
| 17:41.46 | jorge | alguien sabe español? |
| 17:41.47 | J_P | s_ward: ok |
| 17:41.52 | streuner | !es |
| 17:41.52 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:41.53 | RogueDopple | 1es |
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| 17:41.59 | RogueDopple | he he |
| 17:41.59 | greycat | !mail tutorial |
| 17:41.59 | dpkg | [mail tutorial] at http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
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| 17:42.20 | cbr | the migration xfree -> xorg should be as easy as apt-get install xserver-xorg right? |
| 17:42.27 | chris | basix: try telnetting to port 25 of your mail server from one of the machines behind NAT to see if you can connect, if not somethign is being blocked, then use tcpdump to figure out what's going on |
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| 17:42.33 | greycat | cbr: just tell us WHAT PROBLEM YOU ACTUALLY HAVE. |
| 17:42.34 | greycat | Jesus. |
| 17:42.35 | silverbb | basix: 25 if using smtp |
| 17:42.45 | c01100011 | i want to switch from hotplug to usbmgr to reduce my boot time, but usbmgr doesn't detect my usbkeyboard/hub |
| 17:43.08 | basix | chris: its not a mail server. i am simply retrieving email from my gmail account... |
| 17:43.09 | RogueDopple | c01100011: keep repeating we keep ignoring |
| 17:43.14 | cbr | greycat: i have none but another guy is trying to do apt-get install xserver-xorg and it says that it conflicts with xfree and doesnt install it |
| 17:43.30 | chris | basix: sounds like a mail server to me |
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| 17:43.44 | greycat | cbr: well he could always dpkg --purge --force-depends xserver-xfree86 first. |
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| 17:43.53 | greycat | cbr: a bit brute-force but hey... |
| 17:44.07 | c01100011 | sorry RogueDopple but i thought maybe my message got lost in the clutter , as it is more active than usual, |
| 17:44.09 | basix | chris: err... ok |
| 17:44.15 | simonrvn | J_P: volatile is for things like clamav and spamassassin |
| 17:44.35 | simonrvn | J_P: so you can get recent updates to things like that |
| 17:44.38 | jorge | si alguien sabe español que chatee con migo |
| 17:44.38 | goccia | cbr: in sid ? i've installed xorg courtesy of apt in sarge esay! |
| 17:44.42 | greycat | !es |
| 17:44.43 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:45.21 | J_P | simonrvn: yeh i getting upgrade from deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile stable/volatile main :-) |
| 17:45.29 | J_P | debian is very good :-) |
| 17:45.33 | simonrvn | J_P: there ya go |
| 17:45.37 | johnga1t | anyone using 865g w/ debian here? |
| 17:45.46 | J_P | simonrvn: thank you! |
| 17:45.51 | simonrvn | J_P: np |
| 17:45.57 | simonrvn | !volatile |
| 17:45.57 | dpkg | i guess volatile is debian-volatile, a project aiming to gather fast moving targets in an own "release" system. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.net/ |
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| 17:46.37 | streuner | dpkg, seen g4lt |
| 17:46.37 | dpkg | g4lt <galt@g4lt.base.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 301d 17h 9m 50s ago, saying: 'toresbe actually no, policy states taht no package needs to depend on anything on base'. |
| 17:46.40 | goccia | cbr: do a apt-get *-s* install x.... wher -s is "simulate" |
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| 17:46.50 | simonrvn | @volatile is <reply>debian-volatile, a project aiming to gather fast moving targets in an own "release" system. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.net/. add 'deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile stable/volatile main' to sources.list |
| 17:46.50 | ravenbird | ...but volatile is already something else... |
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| 17:46.57 | simonrvn | @volatile |
| 17:46.57 | ravenbird | somebody said volatile was chillin' |
| 17:47.03 | simonrvn | @no volatile is <reply>debian-volatile, a project aiming to gather fast moving targets in an own "release" system. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.net/. add 'deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian-volatile stable/volatile main' to sources.list |
| 17:47.04 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 17:47.18 | J_P | simonrvn: why debian team not put volatile as one upgrade for bugs.. As one simple bug for example... |
| 17:47.39 | simonrvn | J_P: i don't know. ask them, or see the site |
| 17:47.41 | J_P | simonrvn: then apt-get update; apt-get -f dist-upgrade get that |
| 17:47.45 | J_P | simonrvn: ok |
| 17:48.00 | goccia | a security fix called "volatile" will scare me a lot |
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| 17:49.29 | LSorensen | volatile is I believe meantt to deal with things like antivirus systems, and other things which stop working if not updated frequently |
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| 17:50.03 | _allanon | like internet explorer. |
| 17:50.15 | _allanon | miss an update, and your OS is dead. |
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| 17:50.34 | zinx | if your OS runs IE, it's already dead |
| 17:50.38 | RogueDopple | _allanon: get the update and your system and OS is till dead |
| 17:50.42 | zinx | no need for missing an update |
| 17:50.49 | RogueDopple | still* |
| 17:50.49 | silverbb | lol |
| 17:50.51 | deadcat | is it hard to image a debian installation? what do i use? |
| 17:50.53 | _allanon | nah, it works fine. |
| 17:51.02 | _allanon | just stick to the microsoft-endorsed websites |
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| 17:51.22 | TwistedEmotions | hahahahha |
| 17:51.22 | LSorensen | _allanon: can you download all the fixes for windows in the time you have before it is likely compromised? |
| 17:51.37 | goccia | i heard micr$ will do a "vaporware" rep for i.e. |
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| 17:51.56 | _allanon | LSorensen: well, you need to disable some services before you plug in the network cable.. |
| 17:52.08 | _allanon | burned myself a couple of times there. |
| 17:52.09 | zinx | you need to put it behind a firewall |
| 17:52.18 | deadcat | how can i image a customized debian installation to a cd so i can isntall taht to like 50 other machines? |
| 17:52.20 | LSorensen | _allanon: being behind a linux router or something is a good start. |
| 17:52.22 | zinx | which only allows outgoing connections |
| 17:52.46 | goccia | deadcat: partimage ? got a server too ... |
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| 17:52.50 | c01100011 | deadcat, hardrive image qtparted and a knoppix disk works nice |
| 17:53.23 | Kitty-Kun | can anyone recommend a good tv tuner pci card? |
| 17:53.26 | deadcat | goccia: probably not. he just wants to burn it to a cd so he can do it to everymachine |
| 17:53.48 | c01100011 | deadcat- are all the other machines the same ? |
| 17:53.48 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: hauppauge cards are very nice. like pvr250 and 350 |
| 17:53.49 | deadcat | c01100011: explain how. |
| 17:53.55 | deadcat | c01100011: ya. |
| 17:54.02 | harleyg | anyone here able to gimme a hand with debootstrap, send me a pm if ya can ;) |
| 17:54.03 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: runs ivtv driver I believe |
| 17:54.05 | goccia | deadcat: ops : my bad : burning is not partimage business :) |
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| 17:54.31 | _allanon | Kitty-Kun: terratec cinergy 400 worked fine for me. has a philips saa7134 on it. |
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| 17:54.44 | Kitty-Kun | link please? |
| 17:54.50 | _allanon | www.google.com |
| 17:55.08 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: certainly from what I have read the pvr250/350 cards are the most respected for running myth and the like |
| 17:55.16 | c01100011 | deadcat- look into partimage |
| 17:55.20 | Mondoshawan | hi all! Can somebody help me? I have a bug on firefox with macromedia flashplayer 7! Some Text is invisible on diffrent flash websites cause they use system fonts |
| 17:55.23 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: GO TO SLEEP. |
| 17:55.24 | cureless | Kitty-Kun: I have a pvr250 |
| 17:55.30 | LSorensen | Mondoshawan: flash is a bug |
| 17:55.36 | Mondoshawan | :-) |
| 17:55.45 | RogueDopple | ha ha |
| 17:56.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hehe. woke up already. cant really sleep at sj.. too noisy outside. |
| 17:56.09 | deadcat | c01100011: ok |
| 17:56.11 | Mondoshawan | This Bug is a Bug just on Linux ! |
| 17:56.19 | Mondoshawan | :-( |
| 17:56.24 | cokecan | How do I install a VNC server on my machine? |
| 17:56.26 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ohh... I woke up cause of a niughtmare ;( |
| 17:56.46 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: fucking windows... |
| 17:57.04 | goccia | holy words |
| 17:57.09 | OsRo | como puedo borrar un archivo que se llama -x |
| 17:57.13 | Kitty-Kun | the WinTV-pvr 250? |
| 17:57.15 | deadcat | c01100011: thats what i need. thanks (= |
| 17:57.20 | s_ward | !es |
| 17:57.20 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:57.20 | c01100011 | !es |
| 17:57.28 | cureless | OsRo: english ( rm ./-x ) |
| 17:57.32 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: HAHAHA. |
| 17:57.35 | gentgeen__ | cokecan, apt-get one of these http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&keywords=vnc&sourceid=mozilla-search |
| 17:57.39 | OsRo | sorry cureless |
| 17:57.50 | s_ward | cokecan, how do you install anything? apt-cache search vnc ; apt-get install ... |
| 17:57.53 | c01100011 | lost the race , congratulaions s_ward |
| 17:57.54 | cureless | OsRo: and that's the answer, rm ./-x |
| 17:57.55 | OsRo | the message is for debian-es |
| 17:58.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what you mean i got rooted? and i sent you a like to some nice buttons for your page instead of freakin text (= |
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| 17:58.05 | cureless | OsRo: but that's still the answer :-) |
| 17:58.06 | LSorensen | mon: do you have msttcorefonts installed? |
| 17:58.08 | OsRo | thank cureless |
| 17:58.13 | cokecan | Hey now, I'm new to this |
| 17:58.15 | cokecan | hahah |
| 17:58.25 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no... the php picture popup link... |
| 17:58.26 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: sounds right. |
| 17:58.26 | TwistedEmotions | brb |
| 17:58.34 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: I think that one even has a nice remote and all |
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| 17:58.41 | s_ward | cokecan, we at least expect you to have attempted to read the docs |
| 17:58.45 | Pupeno | How can I see which installed packages do not come from a standard Debian source (or where they came from) ? |
| 17:58.46 | F0ckF3ar22 | IM trying to install debian using floppy because i dont have a cd rom drive |
| 17:58.47 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: dont know what you talking about. |
| 17:59.00 | F0ckF3ar22 | my second flo;ppy always screws up |
| 17:59.04 | F0ckF3ar22 | can anyone gimme a hand |
| 17:59.08 | empty | holy shit, I just compiled 2.6.10 with the stock Debian config from 2.6.8 in 9 minutes |
| 17:59.10 | gentgeen__ | cokecan, http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages will be your friend for a while |
| 17:59.17 | c01100011 | just wondering - is there a floppy net install ? |
| 17:59.22 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: did you test the floppies first? |
| 17:59.25 | gentgeen__ | till you get better with apt-cache search |
| 17:59.26 | LSorensen | c01100011: yes |
| 17:59.32 | cokecan | Thanks guys |
| 17:59.36 | greycat | empty: does it boot? |
| 17:59.38 | LSorensen | c01100011: you use the boot, root and netinst floppy images |
| 17:59.42 | cappiz | is there any way i can change the background color during the splash loading? |
| 17:59.44 | F0ckF3ar22 | LSorensen, the first floppy works |
| 17:59.53 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: well maybe your second floppy is defective |
| 17:59.54 | F0ckF3ar22 | The first one is the Boot.img |
| 18:00.03 | cappiz | JoshH is there any way i can change the background color during the splash loading? |
| 18:00.08 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: floppies are very unreliable |
| 18:00.12 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: <acronym title="what the fuck!!!">huh?</acronym> |
| 18:00.12 | TwistedEmotions | <br> |
| 18:00.12 | TwistedEmotions | <a href="google.com" title="root mother fucker -- ROOT!!!">/</a> |
| 18:00.18 | TwistedEmotions | Err.. sorry guys.. |
| 18:00.21 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: I tend to use superformat in linux to do a thorought test |
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| 18:00.30 | F0ckF3ar22 | Lorensen, whats superformat |
| 18:00.41 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: thats example of using the popup thing. |
| 18:00.42 | Kitty-Kun | so |
| 18:00.46 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: look at code.html.. did you do that? |
| 18:00.51 | Kitty-Kun | who thinks longhorn's gonna suck? |
| 18:00.57 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: yes. i wrote that. |
| 18:00.58 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: kk. Just didnt know if someone changed it. |
| 18:00.59 | cureless | F0ckF3ar22: if your floppy doesn't work, throw it away, use another, repeat until successful. |
| 18:00.59 | Kitty-Kun | -raises hand- |
| 18:01.04 | F0ckF3ar22 | im using rawwrite on windows |
| 18:01.05 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ;) jkin.. |
| 18:01.05 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: does it matter? people will buy it anyhow |
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| 18:01.13 | c01100011 | Kitty-Kun- vista- now go sit in the corner |
| 18:01.14 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: the nt version? |
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| 18:01.32 | Flendor | What kind of a name is "Vista" anyway :/ |
| 18:01.33 | F0ckF3ar22 | no xp version |
| 18:01.43 | LSorensen | Flendor: one that gets you sued apparently |
| 18:01.53 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: didn't know there was one |
| 18:01.56 | cureless | c01100011: Longhorn is "another" version, probably a branch that will be renamed something else for the server version |
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| 18:02.02 | Flendor | LOL; I didn't hear about that... Better look at /. |
| 18:02.03 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: well make sure you format the disks first, and NOT quick format. |
| 18:02.14 | deadcat | c01100011: so i need partition image. and knoppix to boot-in new machine and restore to hd? |
| 18:02.19 | LSorensen | Flendor: apparently no one did a google search on vista first |
| 18:02.36 | F0ckF3ar22 | Lsorensen doesnt rawwrite format them good |
| 18:03.00 | c01100011 | deadcat- that is what i would do , but there may be a faster way concidering you have to do 50 machines |
| 18:03.12 | LSorensen | deadcat: how about something like systemimager? |
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| 18:03.20 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: no it doesn't format them at all |
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| 18:03.25 | Kitty-Kun | can anyone recommend any other tv tuners? |
| 18:03.29 | simonrvn | Kitty-Kun: how is that relevant here? and why should we care? |
| 18:03.29 | Morti | What about Vista? |
| 18:03.37 | Morti | I installed Vista this morning. Removed it again about an hour ago. |
| 18:03.53 | simonrvn | Kitty-Kun: (wrt 'longhorn') |
| 18:04.00 | F0ckF3ar22 | LSorensen, i had some bullshit on a floppy then i used rawrite to put in th eboot.img and it loaded up fine on the computer im using it on |
| 18:04.03 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: the pvr[23]50 are the only ones I would currently consider until hdtv starts to be useful |
| 18:04.06 | F0ckF3ar22 | im trying to put debian on a c1xs vaio |
| 18:04.10 | cureless | Kitty-Kun: what's wrong with the Hauppage ones? |
| 18:04.11 | F0ckF3ar22 | that desnt have a cd rom drive |
| 18:04.13 | deadcat | LSorensen: is that easier than partimage? |
| 18:04.14 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: disks left around deteriorate and need reformating |
| 18:04.31 | LSorensen | deadcat: might be. I never used either. a client/server system sound handy for setting up a bunch of machines though |
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| 18:04.41 | deadcat | LSorensen: true. |
| 18:04.56 | LSorensen | deadcat: you just boot the client on the machine, and it images from the network server |
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| 18:05.18 | F0ckF3ar22 | LSorensen whats the second disk |
| 18:05.44 | F0ckF3ar22 | root.img? |
| 18:05.54 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: well boot is first, then root is what it asks for second, then netinst or something is last |
| 18:06.15 | simonrvn | net- or cd-drivers |
| 18:06.29 | Kitty-Kun | price |
| 18:06.32 | Kitty-Kun | that's all |
| 18:06.36 | cureless | F0ckF3ar22: root.img is the root image ... :-) Basically the disk/files/etc. The first one was the kernel. |
| 18:06.40 | LSorensen | net-drivers to do net install, cd-drivers to install from cd (on machine that can't boot from cd) |
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| 18:06.54 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: they don't cost that much |
| 18:06.54 | Kitty-Kun | i'm paying more b/c there's software i can't use included... |
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| 18:07.02 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: and you get what you pay for |
| 18:07.09 | Kitty-Kun | yeah i know |
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| 18:07.17 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: supported hardware is a good thing. the included software, who cares. |
| 18:07.23 | Kitty-Kun | but i don't want to have to pay for useless software |
| 18:07.37 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: using what every developer seems to use ensures drivers will continue to work |
| 18:07.46 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: and what do you think they cahrge for the software they include? |
| 18:07.50 | Kitty-Kun | it's just stupid... unless i can load it on my paren'ts computer without the card... |
| 18:08.00 | Kitty-Kun | i'll ask my parents about it |
| 18:08.02 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: the software might be worth $5 |
| 18:08.07 | c01100011 | LSorensen - you get what you pay for !? if that was true linux would be crap |
| 18:08.10 | cureless | Kitty-Kun: most of the tuners you'll buy will have included software, otherwise just buy something off of ebay. Try a Hauppauge WinTV-Theater, with no dvr. |
| 18:08.30 | Kitty-Kun | because they're the ones buying it for christmas that's a problem >.> |
| 18:08.40 | jerome | considering exim4, what's the proper way to use different smtp (smarthost in exim4 slang) ? |
| 18:08.46 | LSorensen | c01100011: sometimes you get more than you pay for too |
| 18:09.00 | LSorensen | c01100011: bedies copying bits is free, copying silicon isn't |
| 18:09.04 | ptlis | Any ideas where I could get trunking for network cable from? |
| 18:09.05 | LSorensen | er besides |
| 18:09.07 | cureless | Kitty-Kun: how old are you? (you don't have to answer if you don't want) |
| 18:09.21 | Blitz | i installed apache2 on sarge and cannot access the server throu the internet. i set up my router to forward port 80 to the server. what's my mistake? |
| 18:09.42 | LSorensen | Blitz: what port did you confiugre apache2 to use? does netstat -anp show apache2 listening on port 80? |
| 18:09.43 | cureless | ptlis: trunking? |
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| 18:09.53 | zuralin | are YOU trying to access it using your WAN address? |
| 18:09.58 | LSorensen | ptlis: like vlan trunking? |
| 18:10.03 | F0ckF3ar22 | LSorensen, im a little bit of a newb..but im curious.. when i load the boot.img disk i gget an error after its installing things it said.. Boot failed change disks |
| 18:10.09 | ptlis | cureless, The plastic trunking you put along walls etc.. |
| 18:10.19 | Kitty-Kun | i'm 16 |
| 18:10.23 | Kitty-Kun | -sigh- |
| 18:10.24 | ptlis | I probably used the incorrect term. |
| 18:10.29 | s_ward | jerome, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and answer the questions |
| 18:10.30 | Blitz | LSorensen: netstat -nap shows apache2 on 80,81,82 (my virtual hosts) and i forwarded 80 |
| 18:10.34 | empty | greycat, i will let you know |
| 18:10.52 | zuralin | Blistz, are YOU trying to access it using your WAN address? |
| 18:10.58 | empty | greycat, 2x Xeon 3.2G and I niced make to -10 |
| 18:11.02 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: never seen that. you boot the boot disk, then it asks for root, so you swap to the root disk and hit enter, then later it asks for a disk to load drivers from and you give it net-drivers |
| 18:11.19 | Blitz | zuralin: yes |
| 18:11.20 | Blitz | http://84.172.245.184 |
| 18:11.34 | LSorensen | Blitz: you can only test from outside the network unless you have a VERY good router configured by a very competent admin |
| 18:11.37 | zuralin | it "works" |
| 18:11.48 | zuralin | Blitz, your router doesnt support loopback |
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| 18:11.56 | LSorensen | Blitz: anything sold by linksys/dlink/usr etc doesn't seem to do that |
| 18:12.10 | LSorensen | Blitz: you will have to use the internal ip from inside |
| 18:12.18 | jerome | s_ward: actually, this is not handled by debconf |
| 18:12.18 | F0ckF3ar22 | what does that mean then |
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| 18:12.31 | Blitz | okay... thanks... i installed a new router today, because the old one is send to smc .... broken :( |
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| 18:12.45 | deadcat | LSorensen: if i use systemimager, wont the hostname be the same? |
| 18:12.50 | F0ckF3ar22 | LSorensen, i get a message that says Boot Failed: Please change disks and press a key.... |
| 18:12.51 | cureless | ptlis: office depot would seem like the place to get that. I remember getting catalogs from other companies but I can't recall all their names. |
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| 18:12.59 | LSorensen | deadcat: I think you can script changes to be made |
| 18:13.11 | Blitz | does http://pharao.ath.cx also work? |
| 18:13.21 | deadcat | LSorensen: ah. bettre read more of the manual (= |
| 18:13.21 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: then I suspect you aren't booting from the floppy at all, or the floppy wasn't written properly by rawrite |
| 18:13.23 | ptlis | cureless, thanks. |
| 18:13.26 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: or you are not using the boot disk to boot from |
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| 18:13.46 | F0ckF3ar22 | LSorensen, i see the debian logo and it saysgnu/linux |
| 18:13.50 | F0ckF3ar22 | and then it says loading linux |
| 18:13.54 | F0ckF3ar22 | loading initrd.gz |
| 18:14.00 | F0ckF3ar22 | then it goes for a little bit |
| 18:14.02 | F0ckF3ar22 | then boot failed |
| 18:14.11 | s_ward | jerome, #flood |
| 18:14.15 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: most likely the disk is defective then |
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| 18:14.24 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: it should say 'decompressing' |
| 18:14.32 | F0ckF3ar22 | maybe cuz i didnt do a full format |
| 18:14.32 | F0ckF3ar22 | right |
| 18:14.34 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: try different floppies and format them fully first |
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| 18:14.41 | Kitty-Kun | somebody recommended one other card what was it? |
| 18:15.13 | cureless | F0ckF3ar22: if the floppy fails throw it away, get new floppies. |
| 18:15.21 | cureless | Kitty-Kun: the WinTV-Theater? |
| 18:15.51 | Kitty-Kun | no something else |
| 18:15.57 | Kitty-Kun | it had a weird name |
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| 18:16.12 | LSorensen | 13:54 < _allanon> Kitty-Kun: terratec cinergy 400 worked fine for me. has a philips saa7134 on it. |
| 18:16.17 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: that? |
| 18:16.18 | c01100011 | FockF3ar22- probably can pick up a cdrom drive for a few bucks and order a set of debian cds for less |
| 18:16.44 | F0ckF3ar22 | yeah c01100011, i might do that but i wanna see if i can install debian through floppy now |
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| 18:17.27 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: well try a full (non quick) format of each floppy and then try copying a 1.4M file (or files) to each and copy them back and make sure they read ok |
| 18:17.30 | F0ckF3ar22 | do you need internet access to do the debian floppy installation |
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| 18:18.09 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: of course. |
| 18:18.14 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: hence the net install |
| 18:18.14 | F0ckF3ar22 | ok |
| 18:18.17 | F0ckF3ar22 | yup lol |
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| 18:18.25 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: you could use a cdrom instead if you want |
| 18:18.27 | F0ckF3ar22 | is it gonna ask me You need to be connected |
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| 18:18.47 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: no it will expect a working ethernet connection |
| 18:19.16 | Kitty-Kun | what would the kernel module names for either set of cards be? |
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| 18:19.49 | F0ckF3ar22 | LSorensen can i just wait till both the boot.img,and root.img are finished installing |
| 18:19.51 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: ivtv for the pvr cards. |
| 18:20.00 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: sure |
| 18:20.07 | F0ckF3ar22 | kk |
| 18:20.16 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: you can wait until it tries to detect the network connection |
| 18:20.23 | F0ckF3ar22 | ok |
| 18:20.44 | LSorensen | F0ckF3ar22: if you require pppoe or pptp or anything else wierd, it won't work. if you go through a router, that's fine. |
| 18:20.51 | Schiz0 | I'm having a probelm with the xserver, I had it running fine, then last night my HDD overheated and I shut it down, today when I boot the box up, no x server was running, and when I run startx it doesn't do anything, I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and set everything up agian, still nothing, anyone know whats going on? |
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| 18:21.20 | Kitty-Kun | where would that be? |
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| 18:21.51 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: ivtv.sourceforge.net |
| 18:21.59 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: not packaged for debian yet it seems |
| 18:22.11 | Kitty-Kun | those are the drivers for it? |
| 18:22.21 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: for the pvr250/350 yes |
| 18:22.34 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: no clue about the other one. probably bt878 or something |
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| 18:23.36 | Kitty-Kun | so i would just have to compile those, or would i have to start them every time? |
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| 18:24.03 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: probably have to compile them and install them (maybe add it to /etc/modules) |
| 18:24.19 | Kitty-Kun | why isn't it already in the kernel? |
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| 18:24.54 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: it's stil being developed a lot with new features and such, so I guess it hasn't been submitted yet |
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| 18:25.48 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: after all things with version 0.2.x aren't that complete looking yet, although it really does work very well |
| 18:25.48 | Kitty-Kun | not being updated since april 24 is a lot of development? |
| 18:25.56 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: I think they work in cvs. |
| 18:26.03 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: like most sane developers |
| 18:26.23 | LSorensen | Kitty-Kun: lost of mailing list traffic |
| 18:26.38 | F0ckF3ar22 | OMG |
| 18:26.41 | F0ckF3ar22 | floppy suck bals |
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| 18:26.57 | Kitty-Kun | still no release for 4 months... |
| 18:27.00 | Schiz0 | Anyone know why I can't get xserver to run? |
| 18:27.29 | F0ckF3ar22 | !help |
| 18:27.33 | F0ckF3ar22 | +) |
| 18:27.41 | usn | hi all |
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| 18:30.29 | s_ward | jerome, I think you can specify multiple smarthosts by colon separating them |
| 18:30.57 | eXistenZ | How can I upgrade my kernel to 2.6? through apt-get? it's a sarge verison. |
| 18:31.07 | eXistenZ | *4.6 |
| 18:31.17 | eXistenZ | mmm |
| 18:31.17 | jerome | s_ward: it doesn't seem well supported, as far as I read about it :/ |
| 18:31.28 | abrotman | eXistenZ: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 .. install the one for your CPU |
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| 18:31.35 | jerome | s_ward: that was the start point of my problems :) |
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| 18:31.57 | eXistenZ | cool |
| 18:32.03 | eXistenZ | and how can I upgrade x |
| 18:32.08 | abrotman | upgrade to waht? |
| 18:32.10 | eXistenZ | is the packaged called x11? |
| 18:32.18 | LSorensen | eXistenZ: xfree86 4.3 is current in sarge. |
| 18:32.20 | abrotman | eXistenZ: apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 18:33.14 | greycat | eXistenZ: man apt-cache, man dpkg, man apt-get |
| 18:33.20 | greycat | !pkgmgmt |
| 18:33.20 | dpkg | well, pkgmgmt is Debian Package Management - Most Important Commands: http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.html or 'man apt-get'; 'man apt-cache', or apt-get install apt-dpkg-ref, or ask me about apt howto |
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| 18:36.44 | Martin | Question: When bringing up a dhcp based lan connection with ifup, is there a way in dhclient-enter-hooks.d to get the logical name for the connection? |
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| 18:37.58 | LSorensen | Martin: what is a logical name? |
| 18:38.23 | Martin | In my /etc/network/interfaces I have "iface mylan inet dhcp" and I start the connection using ifup eth0=mylan. |
| 18:38.40 | LSorensen | Martin: hmm, don't know. |
| 18:38.48 | LSorensen | Martin: never used things like that |
| 18:38.52 | Martin | I use a fancy feature of ifupdown... starting a connection by map name |
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| 18:39.07 | Martin | mylan is the logical name in this case |
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| 18:39.23 | Martin | if-up.d scripts actually get this with the $LOGICAL env. var |
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| 18:39.37 | Martin | but dhcp scripts don't :-( |
| 18:39.46 | gearry | any apache/perl gurus here? |
| 18:39.54 | simonrvn | no. #apache |
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| 18:40.06 | simonrvn | @tell gearry -about guru |
| 18:40.24 | Martin | anybody? |
| 18:40.28 | gearry | ahh, but this is specific to Debian |
| 18:40.35 | gearry | I will try #apache |
| 18:40.47 | eXistenZ | abrotman: am I supposed to delete the old kernel package after downloading the new one? |
| 18:41.01 | abrotman | eXistenZ: i wouldn't until you're 100% sure it works correctly |
| 18:41.12 | simonrvn | gearry: then check the BTS |
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| 18:42.31 | eXistenZ | I see |
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| 18:42.38 | gearry | nah, I am using apache-perl |
| 18:42.45 | gearry | so I don't think that is my problem |
| 18:42.46 | omry_ | hi, anyone knows if applications are getting mouse events directly from X or from the windows manager? |
| 18:43.00 | gearry | I am trying to install Apache::Request |
| 18:43.28 | gearry | I thought it might be provided by libapache-request-perl |
| 18:43.34 | Martin | When bringing up a dhcp based lan connection with ifup, is there a way in dhclient-enter-hooks.d scripts to get the logical name for the connection? Anybody? Wisper me for more details... |
| 18:43.35 | gearry | but it does not seem to be |
| 18:43.53 | gearry | or at least the one provided in libapache-request-perl is out of date |
| 18:44.01 | gearry | so I tried to install from CPAN |
| 18:44.06 | gearry | it failed |
| 18:44.22 | GiacomoL | hyia, is ftp.uk.debian.org ok? I'm getting Connection refused from apt-get |
| 18:44.24 | child | hello! question: just switched to xorg from xfree86 in debian unstable, is it safe to remove /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?? |
| 18:44.39 | JoshH | child: yes |
| 18:45.04 | abrotman | GiacomoL: try another mirror .. apt-setup |
| 18:45.25 | GiacomoL | abrotman: will do now, tnx |
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| 18:45.42 | Martin | No ifupdown gurus here??? I'm sad. lol |
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| 18:46.14 | child | JoshH: how do I check that xfree86 is all gone from my system? is the seach in synaptic after xfree86 enough? |
| 18:46.17 | sTone_heAd | Martin, ifdown eth0 |
| 18:46.18 | abrotman | Martin: you can use the preup etc in the interfaces file |
| 18:46.29 | abrotman | oh .. whoops .. ignore me |
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| 18:46.56 | eXistenZ | abortman: what am I supposed to do to fix this? .[Message] Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module. |
| 18:46.57 | eXistenZ | [Message] Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched. |
| 18:46.57 | eXistenZ | [Error] Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult rea |
| 18:47.08 | goccia | what ? |
| 18:47.11 | abrotman | yeah .. |
| 18:47.15 | abrotman | ditto .. |
| 18:47.22 | guacharo | hi friends, could anyone tell me if there is a channel to talk about smartcards? |
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| 18:47.22 | Martin | ? |
| 18:47.53 | F0ckF3ar22 | hey LSorensen |
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| 18:47.55 | F0ckF3ar22 | Arey ou tehre |
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| 18:48.00 | F0ckF3ar22 | I need some help |
| 18:48.08 | Martin | Me too lol |
| 18:48.24 | greycat | !ask |
| 18:48.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:48.35 | F0ckF3ar22 | Im installing debian using floppies... after the boot.img floppy it said USb Mass Storage supported.. does that mean i could install another linux os using my ipod? |
| 18:48.37 | muhoo | JoshH: thanks. it worked great. i apt-get -b source php4-mysql, then edited the debian/control file to remove the dependency, then did debian/rules unpatch, then debuild, and.... bob's your uncle. |
| 18:48.40 | abrotman | Martin: what is the logical name for a dhcp connection ? |
| 18:48.50 | muhoo | s/remove/change/ |
| 18:48.51 | JoshH | nice |
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| 18:49.08 | muhoo | again, thanks. /me is happy |
| 18:49.12 | eXistenZ | abrotman: Can you please help me with that? |
| 18:49.26 | abrotman | Martin: please don't do that |
| 18:49.33 | abrotman | eXistenZ: i have never ever seen that message |
| 18:49.41 | GiacomoL | F0ckF3ar22: as theory goes, yes, you should be able to |
| 18:49.43 | abrotman | Martin: please don't msg me .. talk in the channel |
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| 18:49.54 | GiacomoL | F0ckF3ar22: never tried it though :) |
| 18:50.18 | abrotman | Martin: TALK IN HERE |
| 18:50.19 | F0ckF3ar22 | gaicomol, nicee |
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| 18:50.44 | abrotman | Martin: i will not respond to /msg |
| 18:50.57 | F0ckF3ar22 | martin you silly man |
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| 18:51.00 | F0ckF3ar22 | you silly boy |
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| 18:51.11 | F0ckF3ar22 | you silly dog |
| 18:51.16 | F0ckF3ar22 | messaging people like that |
| 18:51.27 | abrotman | F0ckF3ar22: stop hitting enter |
| 18:51.32 | abrotman | Martin: you have to talk in here ... |
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| 18:51.56 | Martin | ah |
| 18:51.57 | Martin | ok |
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| 18:52.19 | Martin | I have a line in /etc/network/interfaces that say "iface MyLan inet dhcp" |
| 18:52.27 | Martin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.27 | abrotman | Martin: and now you'll have to repeat it all :) |
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| 18:52.36 | Martin | all work's fine but the dhcp hook scripts don't get the logical name... |
| 18:52.46 | Martin | the scripts in if-up.d etc have $LOGICAL defined with, in this case, MyLan as the value but dhcp hook script don't have anything like that |
| 18:53.06 | abrotman | now if only i had a single dhcp linux box here :) |
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| 18:53.15 | Martin | I was wondering if there was a file on disk that contained interface info (dev + logical name) at pre-up time |
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| 18:53.27 | Martin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.40 | Martin | there! :-) |
| 18:53.50 | Trev1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:54.08 | exobyte | I'm having trouble getting my modem working, so I tried it in windows (and it worked fine). I'm looking at the windows log, http://pastebin.ca/19319 and seeing a lot more stuff sent before the dial. Would changing the chatscript help? |
| 18:54.18 | Sunny|busy | hey - is there a room to get help with VLOS? |
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| 18:54.51 | corallis | does anyone know what this error means when I try to compile a C file in KDevelop3? "aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library" |
| 18:55.29 | s_ward | corallis, do you have libtool? |
| 18:55.29 | lunaphyte-work | why might setting vga=xxx in menu.lst for grub not have any effect? |
| 18:55.32 | Martin | abrotman: still there? |
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| 18:55.52 | abrotman | Martin: i am .. but i only asked what a logical name was .. i don't have any dhcp linux boxen here .. |
| 18:55.54 | JohnnyST | Hi what is a good msn client program? |
| 18:56.00 | corallis | s_ward: no, I dont |
| 18:56.00 | JohnnyST | gaim? |
| 18:56.03 | Martin | :-( |
| 18:56.04 | abrotman | Martin: did you try reading the man page for dhclient ? |
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| 18:56.11 | abrotman | JohnnyST: amsn ? |
| 18:56.12 | s_ward | corallis, try installing it :) |
| 18:56.13 | Neo_X_Saibot | hello, i am a new, and how i can upgrade my kernel 2.4 to 2.6.12 ? |
| 18:56.24 | corallis | s_ward: I just did, it seems to be working fine now.. thanks :) |
| 18:56.24 | me_here | coralllis: you're missing libtool, get libtool (apt-get install libtool) |
| 18:56.25 | abrotman | apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 18:56.27 | JohnnyST | abrotman, ok. |
| 18:56.28 | Bigsteve | lunaphyte-work: Just a guess but maybe your kernel doesnt have support for a vga console compiled in |
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| 18:56.58 | Martin | yes |
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| 18:57.30 | GiacomoL | what's the difference between kernel-tree and kernel-source? |
| 18:57.41 | Neo_X_Saibot | only found a 2.6.11 |
| 18:57.54 | abrotman | do you need 2..6.12? |
| 18:58.10 | Neo_X_Saibot | i dont know :) |
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| 18:58.20 | abrotman | then just install what's there |
| 18:58.43 | Neo_X_Saibot | when i install a 2.6 kernel, my systen can detect my hard drive |
| 18:58.48 | cokecan | This is so awesome, I am on my Windows machine controlling my laptop that is beside me |
| 18:58.55 | Neo_X_Saibot | can't found the hard drive |
| 18:59.08 | abrotman | cokecan: you've tried synergy2 ? |
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| 18:59.24 | cokecan | I haven't heard of it, what is it? |
| 18:59.49 | Phated | synergy2++ |
| 19:00.03 | eXistenZ | abortman: am I supposed to restart debian after installing the new kernel? |
| 19:00.09 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:00.13 | abrotman | !synergy |
| 19:00.13 | dpkg | [synergy] Gemma, or a KM program (think KVM without any video), see http://synergy2.sourceforge.net |
| 19:00.26 | me_here | GiacomoL: kernel tree will install the directory layout for your kernel with headers source etc. in it, whereas kernel-source is just the source |
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| 19:00.44 | eXistenZ | abortman: though it didn't say this |
| 19:00.59 | abrotman | eXistenZ: ok .. then don't |
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| 19:01.43 | GiacomoL | me_here: tnx... so, if I wanted to compile from scratch a 2.6 kernel + modules, do I need only to get -source? |
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| 19:02.36 | cokecan | abrotman: what is synergy? |
| 19:02.54 | abrotman | cokecan: synergy2.sf.net |
| 19:03.10 | abrotman | cokecan: http://synergy2.sf.net |
| 19:03.32 | abrotman | cokecan: if you have multiple machines with multiple monitors . it's the way to go |
| 19:03.46 | me_here | GiacomoL: yes, but it is better with recent kernels to have the headers too, but you don't need them strictly only if you want to have the latest headers linked to your programs (if you are a programmer) |
| 19:04.20 | me_here | GiacomoL: or if you install some program which depends on latest headers |
| 19:04.50 | GiacomoL | me_here: but to compile external modules ike, say, hostap, I don't need them, right? |
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| 19:06.24 | me_here | GiacomoL: nope, i don't think so, but go try and if you get problems with external modules get the headers right, if all else fails it's your external modules fault or some misconfiguration |
| 19:06.30 | cokecan | I have a laptop and a desktop |
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| 19:06.55 | GiacomoL | me_here: thanks, very appreciated :) |
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| 19:06.58 | cokecan | Soon to be 2 desktops + laptop |
| 19:07.03 | chris | meh |
| 19:07.18 | me_here | GiacomoL: no problem, you're welcome :) |
| 19:07.20 | rr72 | how do i remove all file associated with a package? apt-get remove * doesnt get rid off every file |
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| 19:07.28 | abrotman | cokecan: i understand that .. you can use your desktop kb/mouse to contorl your laptop .. and dozens of other machines that have thier own monitor |
| 19:07.34 | abrotman | rr72: man dpkg |
| 19:07.47 | cokecan | Oh I got you |
| 19:07.51 | GiacomoL | rr72: apt-get --purge remove yourpkg |
| 19:08.03 | edzu | Hello |
| 19:08.03 | abrotman | cokecan: if you'd read the website . it would make sense |
| 19:08.14 | rr72 | ty GiacomoL |
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| 19:08.17 | kaiowa | why if i type altgr +2 i obtain a argument requeest and no t a slash key? how could i know my keyboard ?? |
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| 19:09.19 | masoft | is it possible to active NAT for internet sharing and start DNS, too ? |
| 19:09.39 | d_ | question: is there anyway to my promise fasttrack TX4000 raid card drivers without rerolling a kernel? |
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| 19:11.04 | abrotman | GiacomoL: man dpkg |
| 19:11.06 | cokecan | I swear my laptop is working hard today |
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| 19:11.29 | cokecan | Using 173.3MB of 250.2 |
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| 19:12.57 | Kitty-Kun | hi |
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| 19:13.11 | s_ward | d_, possibly, try looking at m-a aka module-assistant |
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| 19:15.13 | meneg | hello, I was wondering if anyone knows a way to find out all the lib- packages that are not dependencies to other packages for fast cleanup. |
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| 19:16.03 | agilman | apt-get remove appname :) |
| 19:16.09 | kittenbot | deborphan ? |
| 19:16.11 | me_here | meneg: try using sed, grep, awk and perl on your package list |
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| 19:16.40 | me_here | meneg: filtering for dependencies, i don't know if there is a ready made script |
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| 19:17.02 | meneg | kittenbot: oh yeah, I recall that name somehow |
| 19:17.04 | abrotman | !tell meneg about deborphan |
| 19:17.17 | meneg | yep, ok, thanks |
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| 19:17.40 | d_ | in module-assistant, where should my packages to be built be? |
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| 19:20.38 | kitty-kun | hi ^^ |
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| 19:21.00 | eXistenZ | how can I solve the kernel panic - no /dev/console problem |
| 19:21.28 | chris | eXistenZ: did you upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6 recently ? |
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| 19:22.00 | eXistenZ | chris: from 2.4 to 2.8 |
| 19:22.03 | eXistenZ | erm |
| 19:22.04 | eXistenZ | I think so |
| 19:22.05 | eXistenZ | 2.6 |
| 19:22.13 | chris | yeah, so the handling of sata devices changed |
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| 19:22.30 | chris | they used to be seen as ide devices, now they're seen as scsi |
| 19:22.37 | eXistenZ | what am I supposed to do |
| 19:22.38 | d_ | whats the command to check my kernel version? |
| 19:22.39 | eXistenZ | I have SATA |
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| 19:22.52 | chris | so edit /boot/grub/menu.1st and change the root from hda1 to sda1 |
| 19:22.57 | chris | d_: uname -a |
| 19:23.08 | d_ | thx |
| 19:23.15 | tricaric | any CVS expert? |
| 19:23.31 | AjLavJo | what's the simplest way to remove kde and all it's apps? can it be done with apt? |
| 19:23.49 | me_here | AjLavjo: yes |
| 19:24.06 | AjLavJo | one singel line or? |
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| 19:24.25 | me_here | AjLavJo: apt-get purge kde ?? |
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| 19:24.32 | tricaric | I'm trying to checkout a project using CVS: this in general works, but from debian machines I get always a strange error.. |
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| 19:25.06 | AjLavJo | umm can't do that with my apt |
| 19:25.08 | tricaric | it looks like I'm redirected to the samba CVS server, even if the original server has nothing to do with samba!! |
| 19:25.44 | tricaric | the original server is: |
| 19:25.59 | me_here | AjLavJo: sorry i think it should be apt-get remove kde |
| 19:26.03 | tricaric | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@alien.ssl.berkeley.edu:/home/cvs/cvsroot checkout boinc |
| 19:26.11 | d_ | can I add package options to module-assistant |
| 19:26.12 | d_ | ? |
| 19:26.16 | AjLavJo | well it's not that simple i tried it |
| 19:26.42 | tricaric | and if you use it with -t, you see that it sends you to :pserver:cvs@pserver.samba.org:2401/cvsroot |
| 19:26.45 | tricaric | and then dies... |
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| 19:27.07 | me_here | AjLavJo: if there are any dependencies, you first remove the depending packages then kde |
| 19:27.23 | tricaric | I don't get it, and that seems to happen on linux boxes only... |
| 19:27.42 | AjLavJo | if i can remove the base package it will remove everything else too with apt |
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| 19:27.57 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 19:27.57 | eXistenZ | chris: the hde is fine kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-386 root=/dev/hde3 ro |
| 19:28.04 | solemnwarning | ive just connected up webcam |
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| 19:28.07 | abrotman | sde3 |
| 19:28.10 | solemnwarning | what /dev should it be? |
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| 19:28.27 | eXistenZ | abrotman: I've always used hde here, did it change? |
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| 19:28.46 | abrotman | eXistenZ: that's what chris just told you |
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| 19:29.02 | abrotman | !rootsmite eXistenZ |
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| 19:29.23 | eXistenZ | abrotman: in the 2.4 kernel, which works, here is the line: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hde3 ro |
| 19:29.27 | rr72 | is there a way to list all off the uninstalled packages with config files remaining? |
| 19:29.37 | chris | eXistenZ: so change it to root=/dev/sde3 ro |
| 19:29.38 | abrotman | eXistenZ: read what chris said |
| 19:29.53 | abrotman | rr72: man dpkg .. it will help you purge files |
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| 19:30.24 | rr72 | i don't want to purge i want to list what packs have config files still present |
| 19:30.48 | abrotman | dpkg -l | egrep ^rc |
| 19:30.49 | dpkg | No packages found matching |
| 19:30.53 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 19:30.53 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
| 19:31.25 | rr72 | so execute that? |
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| 19:31.40 | landstalker | hi all, anyone having problems with apt? |
| 19:31.41 | rr72 | ty |
| 19:31.46 | rr72 | no |
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| 19:31.59 | abrotman | apt: test |
| 19:31.59 | apt | Test Failed! |
| 19:32.02 | abrotman | landstalker: nope |
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| 19:32.05 | landstalker | hmmm, looks like a site is down to me |
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| 19:32.44 | landstalker | Err http://ftp.uk.debian.org stable/main Release |
| 19:32.44 | landstalker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.51 | rr72 | how do i clean up files with out re installing the pack? |
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| 19:33.01 | borondil | MSG dpkg guidelines |
| 19:33.08 | Bigsteve | landstalker: yeah i got that earlier too |
| 19:33.18 | landstalker | ahh cool, was thinking it was me, lol |
| 19:33.47 | AjLavJo | can i see what's installed with apt? |
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| 19:34.29 | drac | AjLavJo: dpkg -l |
| 19:34.33 | landstalker | use dpkg to see whats installed |
| 19:34.56 | abrotman | rr72: man dpkg .. for the third time |
| 19:34.57 | d_ | what is the debian command to reroll a kernel (and, will it keep my old settings and just append me new ones) |
| 19:35.07 | landstalker | lol abrotman |
| 19:35.08 | abrotman | !tell d_ about kp |
| 19:35.08 | rr72 | im reeding more indepth |
| 19:35.17 | abrotman | rr72: good plan :) |
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| 19:36.01 | landstalker | I usually start with apropos dpkg then dpkg --help then man dpkg (replace dpkg with any package name |
| 19:36.03 | d_ | abrotman: real quick, just want to make sure, will it overwrite my current kernel settings? |
| 19:36.27 | AjLavJo | is there a quicker way to remove all kde apps? |
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| 19:36.38 | AjLavJo | or do i have to remove them one by one? |
| 19:36.41 | landstalker | maybe dpkg -e *kde ? |
| 19:36.45 | exobyte | I'm having trouble getting my modem working, so I tried it in windows (and it worked fine). I'm looking at the windows log, http://pastebin.ca/19319 and seeing a lot more stuff sent before the dial. Would changing the chatscript help? |
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| 19:37.36 | landstalker | sry, dpkg -r *kde maybe |
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| 19:37.53 | rg58sma | hii goodday |
| 19:37.59 | AjLavJo | still not possible |
| 19:38.09 | rg58sma | i have a questions about |
| 19:38.25 | rg58sma | the mac address of pc of the net |
| 19:38.32 | landstalker | yeah just noticed, there should be some way, but its waying up the time it takes to find out against the time it takes to do it |
| 19:38.52 | landstalker | the mac address of pc of the net? Thats a new one on me |
| 19:39.31 | kitty-kun | could somebody give me a link to an easy to understand guide to making packages? Or at least one that's not split into chapters |
| 19:39.31 | harfooz | hi all. Anybody know how to get OpenOffice Writer to start with a default paper size of Letter rather than A4? I've checked psprint.conf in /etc/ and /usr/lib/openoffice/share/psprint and both of those say letter for the paper size, but everytime I open writer it starts with A4. |
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| 19:40.36 | stew | kitty-kun: apt-get install maint-guide ; /usr/share/doc/maint-guide |
| 19:40.40 | rr72 | ?tell rr72 about purge |
| 19:40.54 | rr72 | !tell rr72 about purge |
| 19:40.56 | FarrisG | I've adopted this DNS server that seems to be configured strangely (badly). I can't totally overhaul it right now, but I need to add reverse records for all my boxes. Can anyone help me figure out how to do that in this screwed up bind configuration? |
| 19:41.07 | stew | rr72: please msg the bog: /msg dpkg purge |
| 19:41.11 | stew | err bot |
| 19:41.13 | kitty-kun | that's split in chapters... |
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| 19:41.19 | kitty-kun | is there any other? |
| 19:41.26 | stew | kitty-kun: there is also a .pdf a .ps and a .txt in there |
| 19:41.32 | rr72 | at least i didnt show publicly |
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| 19:41.40 | FarrisG | No zones are actually defined in /etc/bind/*. The server seems to get its zones/record info from /var/cache/bind |
| 19:41.40 | stew | kitty-kun: and one big sgml |
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| 19:41.58 | Ungy | ok I give up what the hell is cialis and why do peopel keep spamming me abotu it |
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| 19:42.12 | JoshH | Ungy: its a boner pill |
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| 19:42.34 | sampo_v2 | is there a "debian" way to choose which version of gcc the system should use? |
| 19:42.34 | Ungy | a boner pill oh cool I shoudl get some of that I have a problem getting it down |
| 19:42.34 | rr72 | ED treatment |
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| 19:43.19 | landstalker | kitty-kun http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/pdf/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO.pdf |
| 19:43.25 | Ungy | ED there is some guy named ED that has his own special treatment |
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| 19:43.58 | sampo_v2 | i'd prefer gcc 3.4 instead of gcc 4.0 as a default, but i don't want to remove gcc 4.0 |
| 19:44.01 | Ungy | I learn a lot from just idleing in this channel |
| 19:44.11 | cokecan | I am really beginning to not like Windows |
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| 19:44.42 | Ungy | cokecan what is the problem |
| 19:44.57 | landstalker | its windows, period |
| 19:45.31 | d_ | 2% make config # or make menuconfig or make xconfig (or, for 2.6.x |
| 19:45.31 | d_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:45.35 | d_ | none of those commands work |
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| 19:45.49 | cokecan | It's just not fun, I really boring. I lost interest in computers for quite some time. I'm just now getting back into the swing of things after rediscovering linux |
| 19:45.55 | valdyn_ | sampo_v2: update-alternatives |
| 19:46.04 | joseni | quit |
| 19:46.11 | abrotman | d_: it shouldn't |
| 19:46.20 | Ungy | I really like windows as a desktop it has some really cool features in general it has some really nice features and some really good software available for it I admit some of the design ideas behind it are rather stupid though |
| 19:46.26 | landstalker | whats the error d_? |
| 19:46.36 | joseni | watts |
| 19:46.37 | Deb_Newbie | Hello all. I"m having trouble trying to change my resolution in gnome. Any ideas? I tried the xfree86config and that did work eaither. It's still stuck in 800 x 600 |
| 19:46.43 | sampo_v2 | valdyn_: any hints on using it? i tried "update-alternatives --list gcc" doesn't say anything |
| 19:46.51 | d_ | abrotman: im following the directions in the README you !told me about |
| 19:46.51 | Ungy | cokecan windows boring? linux is boring windows is exciting |
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| 19:46.57 | d_ | abrotman: and its not working |
| 19:47.06 | valdyn_ | sampo_v2: 'cc', not 'gcc' |
| 19:47.08 | Ungy | with windows you never know what the hell might happen |
| 19:47.10 | d_ | landstalker: make: *** No rule to make target `gconfig'. Stop. |
| 19:47.12 | abrotman | d_: why not? .. did you copy the config from /boot? |
| 19:47.25 | d_ | abrotman: didnt say to |
| 19:47.37 | Ungy | with linux once you get ti working it just works and you don;t have to do anything unless you upgrade |
| 19:47.38 | cokecan | Ungy: To each his own I guess |
| 19:48.00 | abrotman | d: sorry .. forgot that part .. not everyone wants to copy the current config |
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| 19:48.29 | sampo_v2 | valdyn_: "update-alternatives --config cc" says that there is only 1 program which provides cc |
| 19:48.48 | d_ | abrotman: id like to keep what I have an just append the modules I want to add (firewire [my ipod hangs the kernel boot when its connected], and my promise fasttrack tx4000 raid controller) |
| 19:48.50 | naddar | anyone can help me with webmin |
| 19:48.51 | landstalker | Ungy thats not always true. Sometimes you are forced into an upgrade and have to reconfigure things. |
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| 19:49.00 | valdyn_ | sampo_v2: and? you have both, gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 installed? |
| 19:49.04 | abrotman | d_: so you're patching the kernel ? |
| 19:49.07 | naddar | Error - Bad Request |
| 19:49.09 | naddar | This web server is running in SSL mode. Try the URL https://homewskh:10000/ instead. |
| 19:49.09 | sampo_v2 | valdyn_: yes, of course |
| 19:49.10 | d_ | abrotman: yes |
| 19:49.13 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 19:49.13 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 19:49.14 | Ungy | landstalker true ok but not very often with debian |
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| 19:49.26 | abrotman | d_: ok .. copy the config .. then make menuconfig or whatever you use .. |
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| 19:49.38 | abrotman | d_: copy it to .... uhm .config |
| 19:49.41 | Ungy | if you want exciting linux try ubuntu or gentoo |
| 19:49.42 | valdyn_ | sampo_v2: then you might have to use dpkg-divert on /usr/bin/gcc and create a symlink of you choice |
| 19:49.51 | d_ | abrotman: in /usr/src/ ? |
| 19:49.53 | naddar | abrotman: what should i use then |
| 19:49.55 | streuner_ | !lart Ungy |
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| 19:50.00 | landstalker | Ungy I am yet to find out about Debian upgrades. Used to red at |
| 19:50.00 | naddar | if webmin is not good |
| 19:50.03 | landstalker | *hat |
| 19:50.03 | abrotman | d_: whereever your source is |
| 19:50.04 | abrotman | naddar: vi |
| 19:50.06 | d_ | k |
| 19:50.14 | Behi | Any Java programmers here? |
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| 19:50.19 | abrotman | #java ? |
| 19:50.21 | naddar | vi is a editor |
| 19:50.23 | streuner_ | Behi: #java |
| 19:50.26 | Behi | I know |
| 19:50.33 | streuner_ | Behi: would be a better bet ;-) |
| 19:50.50 | Behi | I have a question about Java and internet proxies |
| 19:50.54 | Ungy | landstalker they freeze pacakges so a stable version will work until support is dropped at the current rate if you have Sarge it will be stable except for security updates for the next 2 years at least |
| 19:51.00 | valdyn_ | sampo_v2: like: dpkg-divert /usr/bin/gcc && ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc |
| 19:51.09 | naddar | abrotman: vi is a editor right? |
| 19:51.10 | Coke | I just rebooted with a new kernel and now I can't get my USB working properly. I've loaded ehci-hcd (I have support for that on my motherboard), what else is needed to get /proc/bus/usb contain devices? |
| 19:51.13 | Ungy | streuner_ why you gotta lart me |
| 19:51.19 | sampo_v2 | valdyn_: ah. now i get it. thanks for your help |
| 19:51.20 | abrotman | naddar: yes |
| 19:51.20 | Behi | :) |
| 19:51.21 | cokecan | I can't wait for Monday... |
| 19:51.32 | abrotman | Behi: yes .. #java |
| 19:51.35 | streuner_ | Ungy: stupid troll, troll somewhere else :-) |
| 19:51.35 | cokecan | I get more memory for my laptop |
| 19:51.40 | naddar | abrotman: dont you know a good one like webmin that is with kde or something |
| 19:51.43 | valdyn_ | sampo_v2: ops, above misses the step of deleting the old /usr/bin/gcc after diverting it |
| 19:51.50 | cahoot | Coke: uhci/ohci ? |
| 19:51.51 | Behi | ok |
| 19:51.52 | landstalker | anyone any idea how much learning I have to do?: |
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| 19:51.55 | sampo_v2 | valdyn_: or give -f to ln |
| 19:51.55 | Behi | forget about it ;) |
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| 19:51.58 | abrotman | naddar: yeah .. kterm+vi :) |
| 19:52.10 | cokecan | Trolls? who remembers lucky trolls? |
| 19:52.11 | jim | Behi: so... #java :) |
| 19:52.13 | d_ | abrotman: bash: menuconfig: command not found |
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| 19:52.19 | Simos | hi some one running etch have segfault using -m owner withip6tables ? |
| 19:52.21 | abrotman | d_: make menuconfig |
| 19:52.30 | cokecan | Wow, what an unusual trend |
| 19:52.33 | d_ | abrotman: make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 19:52.37 | FarrisG | are there any scripts that will take my existing DNS records and generate reverse records? |
| 19:52.39 | Behi | How do you Debian guys feel about Ubuntu? Friend or foe? |
| 19:52.44 | d_ | theif |
| 19:52.46 | d_ | ie |
| 19:52.46 | Ungy | streuner_ someone was talking abotu linux being exciting I have to say it is not very exciting cause it is so damned stable I need some excitment in my life that si why I use sid as my desktop |
| 19:52.49 | DoppelGanger | foe |
| 19:52.49 | zinx | Behi: not debian |
| 19:52.51 | Coke | cahoot: I don't think I need it. Do I? |
| 19:52.51 | cokecan | I haven't tried Ubuntu |
| 19:52.52 | streuner_ | oh, trolltime :-) |
| 19:52.57 | zinx | Behi: there is no "friend" or "foe" |
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| 19:53.05 | cahoot | Coke: IIRC yes |
| 19:53.15 | zinx | Behi: but don't ask for help about it in here, not because we dislike/like it, but because we don't know anything about it :P |
| 19:53.16 | Coke | cahoot: doesn't help. |
| 19:53.17 | Behi | zinx: what not debian? |
| 19:53.17 | abrotman | d_: are you in the source directory? |
| 19:53.21 | honschu | Why am I banned from #debian.de ? (due to my dynamic-IP?) |
| 19:53.26 | d_ | abrotman: yes |
| 19:53.37 | Behi | zinx: LOL! |
| 19:53.39 | d_ | abrotman: /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 19:53.40 | landstalker | Ubuntu is cool, nice easy desktop distro tbh |
| 19:53.40 | abrotman | d_: does any make blah work ? .. like make gconfig ? |
| 19:53.47 | streuner_ | honschu: surly not because you use dynamic IP |
| 19:53.48 | Coke | cahoot: my /proc/bus/usb is still empty |
| 19:53.52 | d_ | abrotman: no sir |
| 19:53.54 | GiacomoL | landstalker: I had an horrible experience with Kubuntu |
| 19:54.00 | DoppelGanger | honschu: cause some idiot who had your ip pissed off an op |
| 19:54.15 | streuner_ | hm |
| 19:54.20 | landstalker | me sort of too. For some strange reason my wireless card works a lot better with ubuntu then kubuntu |
| 19:54.39 | honschu | DoppelGanger: mhm... isn't it possible to bann by authenticated nickname? |
| 19:54.41 | landstalker | given that it doesn't seem to work with kubuntu |
| 19:54.42 | streuner_ | landstalker: ask that in #ubuntu |
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| 19:54.55 | streuner_ | landstalker: we aren't care much |
| 19:55.01 | DoppelGanger | honschu: yes |
| 19:55.01 | landstalker | I'm not asking,, carrying on the converstation, do keep up |
| 19:55.25 | honschu | DoppelGanger: How can I talk to a #debian.de admin to unbann the dynamic-ip-range? |
| 19:55.30 | abrotman | d_: you gotta fix that first :) |
| 19:55.33 | cokecan | Ungy: I have had so much fun installing tools, attempting to install themes, using tools that I never used on windows, etc on Linux |
| 19:55.37 | landstalker | streuner, its we "don't" care much, nice try though :) |
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| 19:55.48 | ttick | Okay, I've been trying to set up SMTP-AUTH on exim4 4.52 on Etch. I want it so my laptop is relaying though my server. After I send mail in mutt the laptop passes it over to the server, but then fails the auth challege. And then I think tries and sends the message in the clear, because hte email still got through. What's going on? |
| 19:55.49 | d_ | abrotman: im 4 days into linux, so Im not sure how |
| 19:55.50 | DoppelGanger | have someone thts there do it or talk to a freenode op |
| 19:55.50 | streuner_ | honschu: change your IP and go back into the channel |
| 19:56.04 | abrotman | d_: apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev |
| 19:56.08 | landstalker | what struener said is the easiest option |
| 19:56.13 | streuner_ | honschu: or /msg an OP |
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| 19:56.14 | jim | Behi: that pretty much goes for comparisons too... we don't compare (which is what your question asked for) because there's generally no basis for comparison... it's too much work to understand all dists |
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| 19:56.19 | Ungy | cokecan so you like to screw with your system |
| 19:56.31 | landstalker | dildonics is back |
| 19:56.31 | cokecan | Yes |
| 19:56.39 | honschu | streuner_: msg an OP is a good idea - but how do I get the nickname? |
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| 19:56.51 | stew | d_: what are you compiling a kernel? if you have only used linux a few days, you proabably shouldn't |
| 19:56.52 | Ungy | cokecan and you ran out of things ot screw with on windows? |
| 19:56.54 | streuner_ | honschu: /msg chanserv help |
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| 19:57.08 | d_ | stew: im trying to install my raid card |
| 19:57.10 | streuner_ | honschu: how to find out, who is OP in #debian.de |
| 19:57.13 | stew | d_: what card? |
| 19:57.17 | kitty-kun | what's the command line command to move a file? |
| 19:57.20 | d_ | stew: promise fasttrack tx4000 |
| 19:57.20 | landstalker | mv |
| 19:57.22 | honschu | streuner_: yes |
| 19:57.25 | streuner_ | honschu: /msg chanserv access #debian.de list |
| 19:57.32 | d_ | stew: the doc from promise.com is 2 years old |
| 19:57.33 | cokecan | No, I just didn't like "the norm" of things |
| 19:57.44 | cokecan | I was so used to Windows |
| 19:57.48 | stew | d_: are you sure the default kernels don't already support it? |
| 19:57.56 | d_ | stew: no |
| 19:58.00 | d_ | stew: how do I check |
| 19:58.06 | landstalker | kitty-kun how long you been using linux for? |
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| 19:58.16 | Ungy | cokecan well you can try the 200+ linux distros the 3 BSD distros and the other *nix based distros out there and you should probably get bored around the time your childrens childrens die |
| 19:58.19 | kitty-kun | 6 months... haven't had to move a file yet |
| 19:58.23 | d_ | stew: its not listed in df |
| 19:58.31 | landstalker | lol, lots of people use that command to rename them too |
| 19:58.35 | Ungy | kitty-kun, man mv |
| 19:58.40 | honschu | streuner_: sry "/msg chanserv access #debian.de list" doesn't give any answer. |
| 19:58.42 | cokecan | hahahah |
| 19:58.51 | stew | d_: the debian kenrels contian just about everything available in the kernel sources |
| 19:59.03 | stew | d_: have you figured out the name of the module yet? |
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| 19:59.09 | cokecan | I wold like to try a few Distros, i.e. Slackware, Gentoo, FreeBSD |
| 19:59.15 | cokecan | would* |
| 19:59.19 | landstalker | BSD isn't Linux |
| 19:59.20 | abrotman | Ungy: more than 3 bsds |
| 19:59.22 | streuner_ | honschu: you using a wrong irc-client then |
| 19:59.32 | d_ | stew: well, whenever i have my iPod conencted through firewire, my kernel will stall during boot, and my fasttrack card doesnt show my hdds /dev/ locations for my raid arrays |
| 19:59.36 | eXistenZ | I cannot find the glibc among the packages, does anyone know what is its name |
| 19:59.41 | honschu | streuner_: I didn't know that BitchX is a wrong IRC Client |
| 19:59.45 | d_ | stew: no i havent |
| 19:59.45 | Ungy | abrotman, true I only count the bgi three though |
| 19:59.46 | streuner_ | it is |
| 19:59.57 | streuner_ | honschu: use irssi |
| 20:00.00 | abrotman | Ungy: dunno . dragonfly seems to be big enough |
| 20:00.04 | streuner_ | honschu: or xchat |
| 20:00.14 | honschu | streuner_: :-( BitchX is so cool |
| 20:00.15 | Ungy | abrotman, damn forgot abotu that one |
| 20:00.25 | abrotman | Ungy: and of couse ... debian/bsd does exist :) |
| 20:00.28 | abrotman | course |
| 20:00.31 | Ungy | abrotman, what is BeOS built on? |
| 20:00.33 | streuner_ | honschu: in this case actually not... |
| 20:00.49 | valdyn_ | eXistenZ: look for libc6 |
| 20:00.55 | stew | d_: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 20:01.12 | honschu | streuner_: Okay, I'll get irssi - bye and thx |
| 20:01.14 | abrotman | Ungy: nothing afaik .. ground up OS |
| 20:01.25 | landstalker | yup, BeOS ground up |
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| 20:01.41 | Ungy | abrotman ahh I thougt it was BSD based as well but wasn;t sure I know it is *nix based |
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| 20:02.02 | abrotman | Ungy: no .. it's not based on anything afaik .. i'm not even sure it's posix compliant |
| 20:02.07 | cokecan | Hey guys, anything to IRC other than help/chat? Since I am new to LInux I have become new to IRC. |
| 20:02.21 | abrotman | cokecan: yeah .. there are games |
| 20:02.23 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:03.14 | abrotman | now if only i could remember the channel |
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| 20:03.23 | cokecan | abrotman: Really? Not much into games, though. |
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| 20:03.39 | eXistenZ | Does anyone has radeon 9200 here? |
| 20:03.46 | abrotman | cokecan: thinking games |
| 20:03.49 | stew | eXistenZ: 42 people do |
| 20:04.27 | abrotman | what's that channel ricky_clarkson is always getting people to go to .. it's a math game .. hrm |
| 20:04.29 | Lusid | I have a box using LVM across two drives, one mounted at / and one mounted at /var. The box won't come up now... says it can't mount the volumes... I have Knoppix running, I installed LVM into Knoppix, and was able to mount the drives... so, what would cause it not to work on Debian's boot up? |
| 20:04.33 | eXistenZ | stew: Did you try to install it with the ATI Proprietary Linux driver? |
| 20:04.38 | LSorensen | eXistenZ: I imagine a few unfortunate people do |
| 20:04.44 | stew | eXistenZ: no |
| 20:05.06 | valdyn_ | !tell eXistenZ about ati drivers |
| 20:05.09 | chris | Lusid: you need to build your init.rd correcetly to run lvm on / |
| 20:05.24 | zuralin | Anyone know why my ctrl+alt+Fx keys don't work in Gnome but work while in GDM? |
| 20:05.41 | Lusid | chris: It's been working fine for about 5 months now... we just had to relocate the box, and now it won't start up. |
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| 20:07.43 | chris | hm |
| 20:07.52 | Lusid | Actually, I have an initrd.img.old pointing at boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-1-686, and have an initrd.img pointing at boot/initrd.img.2.4.27-2-686... could it be that it never got restarted after reboot, and that caused it? |
| 20:08.17 | Lusid | Maybe setting it back to the old image will fix it? |
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| 20:08.34 | ma3x | I see most persons who write emails encrypt their messages. What does this bring? |
| 20:08.35 | streuner_ | Lusid: depends how your bootloader handle it ;-) |
| 20:08.47 | streuner_ | Lusid: do you use lilo? |
| 20:09.00 | Lusid | I don't remember if I used lilo or grub on this box. |
| 20:09.03 | Lusid | One sec. |
| 20:09.26 | Lusid | I think lilo. |
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| 20:09.45 | streuner_ | Lusid: well, look in /etc/lilo.conf and change it if necessary |
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| 20:10.05 | mops | is there some good converter (from bin to hex to dex and reverse) in debian? |
| 20:10.10 | mops | dec |
| 20:10.27 | ma3x | I mean what's the big deal if you sign your message? |
| 20:10.32 | jim | gforth |
| 20:11.08 | Lusid | streuner_: But if it can't mount the drive in the first place, how could it access /etc/lilo.conf? |
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| 20:11.38 | streuner_ | Lusid: why you can't mount the drive? |
| 20:11.53 | eXistenZ | what do I have to do if make-kpkg doesn't work |
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| 20:12.05 | AlexDusty | hello |
| 20:12.15 | streuner_ | eXistenZ: pray? |
| 20:12.19 | AlexDusty | Anyone using sarge for AMD64? |
| 20:12.22 | eXistenZ | I don't know |
| 20:12.27 | takatumi | eXistenZ: read the error message, man make-kpkg, google etc. |
| 20:12.36 | streuner_ | AlexDusty: #debian-amd64 |
| 20:12.42 | Ungy | AlexDusty, of course people use it otherwise it wouldn;t be supported |
| 20:12.52 | ma3x | Can anybody explain me this? Message was signed with unknown key 0x721EB1B0CEE45978. The validity of the signature cannot be verified.Status: No public key to verify the signature |
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| 20:13.04 | AlexDusty | streuner: thanks, I didn't noticed it :) |
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| 20:13.33 | Ungy | ma3x its a private key they didn;t bother paying for someone else to sign there shit for them |
| 20:13.34 | jim | ma3x: info gpg |
| 20:13.36 | AlexDusty | ungy: yes, I know *someone* uses it, I was asking if any users here willing to help me :) |
| 20:13.49 | streuner_ | !amd64 |
| 20:13.49 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 20:13.56 | AlexDusty | !amd64 |
| 20:14.15 | Technel | I installed XFCE4 on Debian using apt-get. I am trying to add the XFCE Menu (the one shown when you right click on your desktop) to the bar. I could do it in Slackware 10.1 by going right clicking, going to add, and "XFCE Menu", but that option is not displayed on Debian. Any idea why? It is possible that Debian has an older build of XFCE4? |
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| 20:14.19 | xinming | !java2-runtime |
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| 20:14.30 | streuner_ | AlexDusty: dpkg ignores message which people post in a certain time |
| 20:14.36 | ma3x | Ungy, what's the big deal if you put that key to the mail? |
| 20:14.37 | streuner_ | messages* |
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| 20:15.05 | Ungy | ma3x what big deal I am not makign any big deal about it is someone else I dunno what the problem is |
| 20:15.35 | streuner_ | AlexDusty: /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 20:15.38 | stew | ma3x: the idea is that a signed message give you the ability to verify its author and that it was not altered since it was signed |
| 20:15.40 | streuner_ | AlexDusty: np |
| 20:16.04 | Ungy | ma3x the idea is secure e-mail communications |
| 20:16.05 | sirsndethmtl | I was wondering if someone might be willing to give me a handle on something here...I reinstalled Debian Sarge w/ a 2.6 kernel this time, because I f'd the old install when I was updating stuff using dselect. Anyhow, now I can't get my CDroms to mount and I've never been able to get my printer to work either for some strange reason |
| 20:16.10 | jim | ma3x: info gpg |
| 20:16.33 | jim | maybe you should discuss this when you are informed about the subject |
| 20:16.34 | streuner_ | hm |
| 20:16.36 | ma3x | stew, how can you verify its author? If he sends you twice email, you will see the same key, right? |
| 20:16.44 | jim | ma3x: info gpg |
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| 20:17.14 | xinming | anyone here can give me a url for installing the java2 runtime? |
| 20:17.31 | stew | ma3x: import his key from a public server first |
| 20:17.35 | jim | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.54 | ma3x | stew: how? |
| 20:17.58 | stew | ma3x: man gpg |
| 20:18.00 | jim | ma3x: info gpg |
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| 20:18.06 | Souza10 | How do I have to configure my firewall to start my squid with authentication? at the moment I just can start it with my firewall totaly opened. just after my squid is working I can run my firewall. What is wrong? |
| 20:18.14 | ma3x | thanks stew |
| 20:18.18 | Souza10 | it seens to be something with ncsa_auth because when I look at my squid's log it stops at this line "helperOpenservers: Starting 5 'ncsa_auth' processes" |
| 20:18.32 | ronald_o | anyone has a good sources.list for 3.1/unstable? |
| 20:18.32 | xinming | jim: thanks |
| 20:18.53 | jim | could someone quiet him for about 3 hours so he has a chance to read and think at least once? |
| 20:19.01 | stew | ma3x: if you import his/her key into your keyring, your mua should be able to verify the authenticity of the message |
| 20:19.01 | streuner | ronald_o: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 20:19.04 | sirsndethmtl | maybe that's it...maybe someone should just give me a good sources list |
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| 20:19.12 | sirsndethmtl | and I should try to update again |
| 20:19.12 | jim | xinming: welcome |
| 20:20.20 | ma3x | stew: how to import the key from mail in Kmail |
| 20:20.27 | jim | ma3x: info gpg |
| 20:20.35 | jim | could someone quiet him for about 7 hours so he has a chance to read and think at least once? |
| 20:20.38 | abrotman | gnupg ? |
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| 20:21.12 | s_ward | looks like I ignored him, I can't hear him... |
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| 20:21.18 | abrotman | heh |
| 20:21.24 | abrotman | doesn't kde have a key manager ? |
| 20:21.26 | jim | the info page is not under the command name? |
| 20:21.45 | sirsndethmtl | okay, well thanks...I think for listening... |
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| 20:21.50 | abrotman | hrm .. jim .. not sure .. |
| 20:21.50 | s_ward | sirsndethmtl, handling of ATAPI CD drives changed from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 |
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| 20:22.01 | s_ward | oh well, hone |
| 20:22.05 | abrotman | jim: i stopped using gpg when it became more work than benefit |
| 20:22.07 | s_ward | s/hone/gone/ |
| 20:22.07 | ma3x | abrotman, this key do you need only the key numbers, or the key file? |
| 20:22.13 | ma3x | What should be exported? |
| 20:22.17 | abrotman | ma3x: you have to read! |
| 20:22.19 | abrotman | !gnuph |
| 20:22.20 | abrotman | !gnupg |
| 20:22.20 | dpkg | [gnupg] the gnu privacy guard, a free replacement for PGP. at http://www.gnupg.org/ |
| 20:22.22 | demon | does anyone know why debootstrap blows up with "Couldn't find these debs: [random number]" if any includes or excludes are specificed? |
| 20:22.22 | ronald_o | * |
| 20:22.24 | abrotman | !gpg |
| 20:22.25 | dpkg | methinks gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard, a free public-key encryption program available , now in main . or http://www.gnupg.org, but apt-get install gnupg |
| 20:22.26 | demon | er, specified |
| 20:22.45 | nrclf | hey dpkg wtf is linux |
| 20:22.53 | tag | heh |
| 20:23.00 | abrotman | dpkg: linux |
| 20:23.00 | dpkg | linux is, like, closed |
| 20:23.07 | nrclf | haha |
| 20:23.24 | abrotman | dpkg: wtf ffs |
| 20:23.26 | dpkg | no binary found. |
| 20:23.30 | abrotman | bastard |
| 20:23.38 | cokecan | Where is a good place to download versions of Linux? |
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| 20:23.49 | abrotman | distrowatch.com |
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| 20:24.09 | s_ward | http://www.kernel.org/ -- of course, if you're asking for Linux-based distributions, that's a different matter |
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| 20:24.37 | cokecan | Thanks abrotman, any recomendations other than Debian (which I am going to keep on my laptop) |
| 20:24.49 | cureless | cokecan: what is your goal? |
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| 20:25.42 | cokecan | To take over the world from my bed |
| 20:25.45 | cokecan | :-D |
| 20:25.53 | permee | anyone had trouble with desktop right side being "cut off" ? |
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| 20:26.08 | s_ward | !anyone |
| 20:26.08 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 20:26.50 | cokecan | I want a stable desktop that will allow me to edit photos, play music, and watch movies. I want to be able to back up data with my dvd rw. |
| 20:26.51 | greycat | 3.1 unstable is an oxymoron |
| 20:26.53 | mrgenixus | anybody heard of mezzp |
| 20:26.59 | s_ward | permee, err, no, sounds a bit strange, try adjusting your monitor |
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| 20:27.06 | permee | dpkg : stick to punctuation lol |
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| 20:27.22 | streuner | greycat: well, if someone asking for a sources.list (unstable) its not only the version ... ;-) |
| 20:27.51 | permee | s_ward thanks mate the monitor it self you mean?no way to do this via software/app? |
| 20:27.55 | greycat | here's a helpful hint: if you can't figure out how to run unstable, perhaps you shouldn't. |
| 20:28.20 | streuner | i just told him that 5 minutes ago (/msg dpkg sid faq) |
| 20:28.52 | DoppelGanger | no one ever pays attention |
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| 20:29.12 | s_ward | permee, yes, the monitor itself; or, check your current resolution is actually supported |
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| 20:29.17 | s_ward | permee, are you running X? |
| 20:29.27 | abrotman | cokecan: there are many .. go to distrowatch .. read the descriptions .. find one that interests you |
| 20:29.40 | abrotman | cokecan; another place to check is lwn.net |
| 20:29.41 | s_ward | (probably a silly question) |
| 20:29.41 | mrgenixus | has anyone here ever heard of mezzo. |
| 20:29.51 | abrotman | yes |
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| 20:30.07 | jim | it means medium I think |
| 20:30.15 | jim | like mezzo soprano |
| 20:30.19 | abrotman | heheh |
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| 20:31.03 | permee | @ s_ward : current resolution is okay,it is just that the desktopitself is not exactly displayed in the middle of the screen,ergo scrollbars in browser are invisible |
| 20:31.03 | ravenbird | permee: okay |
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| 20:31.06 | jim | on the teevee, the mezzo soprano is the guy who handles the money |
| 20:31.17 | mrgenixus | jim: I mean like the mezzo interface for linux |
| 20:31.27 | Phated | ravenbird: forget s_ward : current resolution |
| 20:31.27 | ravenbird | i forgot s_ward : current resolution, Phated |
| 20:31.30 | abrotman | ravenbird: forget current resolution |
| 20:31.30 | ravenbird | i didn't have anything called 'current resolution' to forget, abrotman |
| 20:31.33 | greycat | if ((x != 0)) && ((x+1%5 == 0)) |
| 20:31.35 | greycat | bah. |
| 20:31.37 | abrotman | ravenbird: forget s_ward : current resolution |
| 20:31.37 | ravenbird | abrotman: i didn't have anything called 's_ward : current resolution' to forget |
| 20:31.42 | abrotman | bah |
| 20:31.47 | Phated | Slowpoke. |
| 20:31.52 | s_ward | :) |
| 20:31.53 | abrotman | Phated: thanks :) |
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| 20:32.14 | Phated | FURREH |
| 20:32.19 | permee | s_ward : ermmm ,yes i am running X |
| 20:32.45 | Phated | Ew. |
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| 20:33.15 | jim | Phated: are you gonna be one of those chicks that has like 200 cats? |
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| 20:33.27 | Phated | jim: No. |
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| 20:33.36 | abrotman | hey ... |
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| 20:33.45 | shingouz | i hate cats |
| 20:33.46 | s_ward | permee, if you change resolution, press Ctrl-Alt-KP_Plus (+ on the numeric keypad), do you still get a bit cut off? |
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| 20:34.35 | streuner | in mittle-edge they hate cats, because cats are the most evil animals... |
| 20:34.37 | jim | now THERE is a channel stopper :) |
| 20:34.52 | greycat | in soviet russia cat hates you! |
| 20:34.53 | permee | s_ward : erm nice trick but it just changed my resolution heheboth sides were " cut off" |
| 20:34.59 | streuner | greycat: haha |
| 20:35.05 | greycat | had to be done... |
| 20:35.20 | s_ward | permee, yeah, is it cut off, or can you move your pointer to the edge of the screen to see it? |
| 20:35.35 | s_ward | permee, or is that what you originally meant by "cut off"? |
| 20:35.47 | eXistenZ | where can I look at the kernel's configurations? |
| 20:35.53 | greycat | /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 20:36.02 | streuner | If you ever saw how they play with a mouse till they kill them, you know why |
| 20:36.23 | jim | eXistenZ: if you print it, anywhere you want... |
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| 20:36.41 | eXistenZ | jim: I like your humor. |
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| 20:37.09 | permee | s_ward : yes i can move my pointer to the edge and see it then,not in default resolution tho i just can't seem to adjust the desktop as for example i could in yoper |
| 20:37.23 | ttick | Okay, trying to install swaks to debug my SMTP setup. It's asking for Net::SSLeay. I'm trying to CPAN it but get stuck I could not find your OpenSSL in `INSTALLDIRS=site'. OpenSSL is installed, where do I look for the installdir? |
| 20:37.41 | jim | it's sorta meant to show you can turn most things on their side and see a different view |
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| 20:38.09 | jim | except Phated tho, don't turn her on her side, she'll spray you :) |
| 20:38.30 | deadcat | what smulticast install mean? |
| 20:38.38 | s_ward | permee, it seems like your monitor's being a bit funny with the default resolution |
| 20:38.40 | sussudio | jim: it's what mydaus meliceps do. |
| 20:38.46 | greycat | ttick: did you install the -dev package? |
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| 20:39.03 | jim | sussudio, what's that? |
| 20:39.03 | TGM | Can anybody explain exactly what a udeb is? I did not follow the installer's history. |
| 20:39.13 | sussudio | jim: google for it. |
| 20:39.13 | greycat | !udeb |
| 20:39.13 | dpkg | udebs are microdebs, "regular debian packages that are not policy compliant. They are used by the new debian-installer project, to build up the actual system that then installs debian." -- thus spake Joey Hess, the great debian genius |
| 20:39.15 | ttick | greycat: nope, openssl-dev, you mean? |
| 20:39.16 | s_ward | permee, what model is your monitor, what resolution are you trying, and with what graphics card? |
| 20:39.19 | permee | s_ward : refresh rates and syncs are fine tho, |
| 20:39.33 | jim | TGM: it's a deb that doesn't have to follow policy, essentially |
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| 20:40.00 | jim | Joey Hess gave me my first debian cd |
| 20:40.01 | permee | s_ward: monitor:samsung lcd inch and nVidia nForce chipset |
| 20:40.08 | befa | hi all |
| 20:40.13 | TGM | But it works like a normal one? and presumably the end result is about equivlent to having used normal debs? |
| 20:40.42 | jim | well I think there's a udpkg |
| 20:40.51 | greycat | whichever one Linux System Labs used back then |
| 20:40.52 | sussudio | greycat: from badgers |
| 20:40.59 | jim | and it might be part of busybox |
| 20:41.03 | deadcat | whats multicast install mean? |
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| 20:41.12 | ttick | greycat: hmm, confused as to which is the openssl dev package. |
| 20:41.22 | jim | I guess it's like what norton ghost does |
| 20:41.30 | petemc | ttick: the package you want is #debian |
| 20:41.34 | petemc | gah |
| 20:41.44 | deadcat | jim: i dont know what that does. is that mean 1 box at a time or more than 1 at a time? |
| 20:41.44 | s_ward | ick, lcd |
| 20:41.51 | petemc | ttick: apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl , or even better, apt-get install swaks |
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| 20:42.06 | TGM | Why are normal debs not used? OT are udebs only used when space is limited such as the netinstall Cds? |
| 20:42.09 | s_ward | permee, I'd be clutching at straws trying to solve the rest of this problem |
| 20:42.16 | jim | well usual installs are one box at a time |
| 20:42.17 | s_ward | :( |
| 20:42.28 | permee | s_ward : well no probs earlier just with kanotix (debian based ) |
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| 20:43.12 | streuner | greycat: i bought mine from a german vendor, i paid about 50 bucks, 9 CD's with KDE (woody) the whole package was based on potato |
| 20:43.22 | permee | s_ward : thanks anyway mate,i was just wondering whether there was an app like alsa config in yoper,well yoperconf really were settings could be adjusted after install |
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| 20:44.03 | jim | TGM: udebs are free of policy requirements, so the installer team can include udebs in the repository without having to follow a packaging policy that was written for normal packages |
| 20:44.25 | s_ward | permee, yoper, not Debian? Have you tried asking in yoper's IRC channel, if it has one? |
| 20:44.44 | greycat | streuner: did that 50 bucks include a donation to the project? |
| 20:44.54 | permee | s_ward :running debian now,used to run yoper |
| 20:44.59 | s_ward | permee, ah, I missed you say it earlier |
| 20:45.13 | streuner | greycat: uhm, 1 DM which was about 0.50 $ |
| 20:45.26 | greycat | streuner: bah. hardly worth the effort of filling out the paperwork :-/ |
| 20:45.42 | streuner | greycat: 1 buck is 1 buck... |
| 20:45.43 | s_ward | permee, ther's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:45.48 | TGM | ok... so udebs are just things in the repository (for setting up an installer), not thing actually used by the installer? |
| 20:45.50 | s_ward | s/ther/there/ |
| 20:45.52 | greycat | streuner: I suppose. |
| 20:46.01 | streuner | greycat: pretty easy to transfer over paypal |
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| 20:47.00 | permee | s_ward:i'll try that one again,might do it now !! |
| 20:47.27 | permee | s_ward : thanks for your time mate |
| 20:47.35 | s_ward | no problem |
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| 20:49.57 | liran__ | can i flush the local cache dns? |
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| 20:50.06 | loocek | how to turn on notify on konsole that I have mail (in /var/mail) ?? |
| 20:50.19 | liran__ | loocek: i think its mesg |
| 20:50.29 | liran__ | loocek: wait, no. thats for write |
| 20:50.44 | loocek | I have mesg on |
| 20:50.46 | TGM | doh... know i understand it. udebs are used because things like preinst scripts would not be usable on the new system as the needed architecture would not yet be in place. |
| 20:50.52 | liran__ | loocek: what you need is 'biff' try it |
| 20:51.11 | loocek | liran__: what is biff ? |
| 20:51.17 | liran__ | man biff |
| 20:51.19 | abrotman | !biff |
| 20:51.19 | dpkg | [biff] a mail notification tool |
| 20:51.54 | streuner | dpkg, info biff |
| 20:51.56 | dpkg | biff: (a mail notification tool), section mail, is extra. Version: 1:0.17.pre20000412-1.3 (sid), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 92 kB |
| 20:51.57 | loocek | without biff it can't be ?? |
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| 20:52.19 | TGM | what pints the message normally? login? |
| 20:52.22 | cokecan | How do I do the uber cool ksmoothdock? |
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| 20:52.55 | s_ward | liran__, local cache, do you mean with nscd? If so, stop it and start it again |
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| 20:53.13 | abrotman | streuner; good try :) |
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| 20:53.34 | streuner | abrotman: yeah, it isn't very informative |
| 20:53.45 | abrotman | streuner: yeah .. damn maintainers :) |
| 20:53.47 | abrotman | !maint biff |
| 20:53.49 | dpkg | biff: Dave Holland <dave@debian.org> |
| 20:54.16 | streuner | Who using biff anyways... |
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| 20:55.05 | abrotman | streuner: i use it .. as a verb :) |
| 20:55.33 | abrotman | streuner: you're in the states right? |
| 20:55.33 | streuner | good that you don't use it as your first name ;-) |
| 20:55.53 | streuner | nah, germany |
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| 20:55.57 | abrotman | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=biff |
| 20:56.08 | abrotman | see the definition about 1/3 down .. An outdoor toilet; an outhouse. |
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| 20:56.38 | eXistenZ | abrotman: Can you please look at this document? I want to understand simply if I'm supposed to choose either installing using dpkg method or module-assistance or simply I have to do both. here is the link: http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html#install |
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| 20:56.52 | abrotman | i odn't have ati stuff |
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| 20:57.01 | usn | good night |
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| 20:57.26 | purestor1_ | Is there a command that allows me to get the first xxx bytes from a file? |
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| 20:57.38 | eXistenZ | abrot: well, just read that part please. |
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| 20:57.58 | s_ward | purestor1_, head |
| 20:58.26 | purestor1_ | s_ward: Ah, cool that works with bytes, too. Thanks |
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| 20:58.36 | jfa | shift-u: del topic de #debian: USE #flood or /msg dpkg |
| 20:58.37 | jfa | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.39 | apokryphos | Is there a command to display *Network* uptime? |
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| 20:59.54 | deadcat | i am wondering how much a contractor would charge to do a customized debian machine and deploy that to 50 machines? |
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| 21:00.11 | liran__ | s_ward: whats nscd? |
| 21:00.16 | chris | deadcat: are the machines identical ? |
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| 21:00.20 | deadcat | chris: ya. |
| 21:00.25 | deadcat | chris: hopefully |
| 21:00.42 | s_ward | liran__, name service cache daemon -- /msg dpkg nscd |
| 21:00.54 | merlin262 | anyone familiar with debian's openjade here? |
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| 21:00.57 | s_ward | oh, that's not very helpful.. |
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| 21:01.18 | ederson | #debian-oo |
| 21:01.21 | liran__ | lol didnt know i have it installed |
| 21:01.23 | abrotman | eXistenZ: download the packages .. then dpkg -i them |
| 21:01.35 | prodope | how would i mount a directory on another computer so it can be read by users on this computer and used for ftp and such? |
| 21:01.35 | liran__ | or actually i dont |
| 21:01.35 | s_ward | liran__, if that's running locally to cache domain lookups, then you restart it: /etc/init.d/nscd restart |
| 21:01.37 | abrotman | then use m-a |
| 21:01.40 | FarrisG | Ok. My DNS server has a "192.rev" file it loads, but it has no reverse records in it. Can I just put standard bind reverse ptrs in it? |
| 21:01.44 | prodope | the other computer is a win2000 machine |
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| 21:02.27 | jcole | !rsh |
| 21:02.28 | dpkg | if you can't find it, ask me about netstd |
| 21:02.29 | s_ward | liran__, it might be your upstream name servers caching things longer than they should |
| 21:02.43 | s_ward | liran__, in that case, the only thing I know to do is wait |
| 21:03.03 | jcole | how do i make rsh work in debian? any howto guides out there? |
| 21:03.17 | jcole | !netstd |
| 21:03.17 | dpkg | hmm... netstd is the Standard Net Tools |
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| 21:03.34 | merlin262 | jcole, are you sure you want rsh, it's not exactly the most secure.... |
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| 21:03.52 | jcole | i know it's not secure, but i have an app that *needs* it |
| 21:04.06 | merlin262 | ouch |
| 21:04.08 | s_ward | which app is that? |
| 21:04.15 | jcole | i've set up a user account for it |
| 21:04.20 | jcole | s_ward: loadrunner |
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| 21:05.05 | ulitz | does anyone know of an mirrors for the ivtv drivers through apt? |
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| 21:05.07 | jcole | s_ward: commercial web load testing tool... i want to use a *nix host instead of a win32 host |
| 21:05.50 | zinosat | I'd like to know hot to reply to messages on MLs I'm not subscribed to, with a mail client. I don't know hot to use the in-reply-to string. do you know how to specify it in mutt? |
| 21:06.03 | petemc | zinosat: g |
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| 21:06.43 | ulitz | does anyone know where to find v4l drivers? |
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| 21:07.03 | petemc | ulitz: the kernel |
| 21:07.22 | eXistenZ | how can I change one of the kernel's configuration? |
| 21:07.32 | ulitz | petemc: is it compiled in by default? |
| 21:07.36 | zinosat | petemc, "g" is group-reply |
| 21:07.44 | petemc | ulitz: its in debian kernels, yes |
| 21:07.51 | petemc | zinosat: im aware of that |
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| 21:08.03 | ulitz | so how do I load the v4l module? |
| 21:08.19 | zinosat | petemc, you mean I shoud inctude the in-reply-to string there right? |
| 21:08.24 | petemc | ulitz: you need to find a how to, im sure google has one |
| 21:08.37 | cokecan | Yea! I got my sound working on my laptop! |
| 21:08.39 | eXistenZ | abrotman: is it fine to change one of the kernel's configurations through the config file in the /boot? |
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| 21:08.54 | jcole | i'm on my own... google time (again) |
| 21:09.20 | prodope | how do i mount a directory on a win98 (fat32) from my linux machine? |
| 21:09.26 | petemc | zinosat: the jury is still out on that topic, i just let mutt do its thing |
| 21:09.36 | petemc | prodope: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 21:10.56 | prodope | petemc: i can't do it with mount? only through fstab? |
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| 21:11.13 | petemc | prodope: you can |
| 21:11.36 | welson | i'm not very intermediate with some terminology, mind me asking.. after a reportbug someone said to rather report the bug to upstream.. what does he mean by upstream? |
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| 21:11.54 | nkuttler | welson: the original author(s) |
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| 21:12.02 | welson | nkuttler, ok |
| 21:12.26 | prodope | i'm trying mount -t vfat //helium/shared /home/shared/helium |
| 21:12.38 | petemc | prodope: thats smb |
| 21:13.23 | prodope | ok, so i have to use smbfs? |
| 21:13.32 | petemc | yeah |
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| 21:13.53 | prodope | ok, now i'm getting this error from dmesg: smb_fill_super: missing data argument |
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| 21:14.36 | petemc | prodope: you misuderstand the purpose of irc, its not there to tell you how to do everything, more to fill int he blanks when you canty understand how tos etc |
| 21:14.58 | ulitz | petemc: can't seem to load the v4l drivers.. |
| 21:15.00 | simonrvn | petemc: yup |
| 21:15.03 | prodope | man, i've been trying to get this working for a while |
| 21:15.09 | prodope | reading lots of man files |
| 21:15.26 | prodope | if you can help in anyways, that would be great |
| 21:15.32 | petemc | prodope: well, you've just now found out you're moutnign a network filesystem, read up on that |
| 21:15.43 | petemc | ulitz: which guide are you following? |
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| 21:16.10 | ulitz | sorta my own.. |
| 21:16.24 | petemc | ulitz: it doesnt seem up to the task, consult another one |
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| 21:17.00 | rob_lt | Hey, does xorg replace xfree86 in testing? |
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| 21:17.09 | petemc | rob_lt: no |
| 21:17.15 | petemc | ermm, sorry |
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| 21:17.15 | rob_lt | petemc: ok, thanks |
| 21:17.19 | petemc | rob_lt: it will |
| 21:17.26 | rob_lt | petemc: ok, still in unstable then |
| 21:17.34 | petemc | as far as im aware, yeah |
| 21:17.34 | ulitz | petemc: like modprobe v4l should work right? |
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| 21:17.55 | petemc | ulitz: guesswork will get you nowhere |
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| 21:18.27 | d_ | anyone know how I would go checking/activating/adding a module for my promise fasttrack PCI raid controller? |
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| 21:19.13 | Technel | What is the command to open up that config menu that has Nautilus automatically open with --no-desktop |
| 21:19.31 | jim | d_: umm... it's better if you find out those things before you buy new hardware... |
| 21:19.32 | petemc | Technel: gconf-editor,i think |
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| 21:20.04 | d_ | jim: umm.. i had it in my computer for about a year and a half and just installed linux 4 days ago |
| 21:20.10 | Technel | petemc: Yep, thank you. |
| 21:20.14 | jcole | prodope: smbmount //server/share /local/share -o username=prodope |
| 21:20.36 | petemc | d_: google to find out which driver it needs, if your kernel has it, load it |
| 21:20.41 | rob_lt | d_: modprobe is the command to install a module... I'm not sure what you need for your raid controller though. |
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| 21:20.52 | rob_lt | s/install/load |
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| 21:21.34 | jcole | prodope: //server/share can be ntfs, fat32, ext, xfs, reiser, etc... as long as the client is running windows file sharing or samba |
| 21:21.42 | jim | d_: oh, ok... so first off, consider that a note for the future... research OS stuff before buying new hardware... and for now, unfortunately it might work, it might not... otoh I think I saw a question or three about promise raid controllers in the kernel config |
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| 21:22.08 | Technel | What is the command to uninstall packages in Debian? |
| 21:22.21 | jim | dpkg --help |
| 21:22.21 | dpkg | Dpkg: Package Manager for Debian. Synopis: dpkg [options] action |
| 21:22.29 | simonrvn | man apt-get man dpkg |
| 21:22.30 | Technel | Thanks |
| 21:22.35 | Akbar | or.. apt-get remove --purge.. |
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| 21:22.56 | psychonate | Which is better to use in most cases: dpkg or apt-get? Or is it just a matter of preference? |
| 21:23.01 | d_ | jim: i went through the README file for the kernel drivers, but they didnt work, I was in the directory for my source (/usr/src/linux/kernel_source***) and make gconfig and all those other commands didnt work |
| 21:23.07 | Akbar | apt handles deps |
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| 21:23.28 | c0unt3r | hello |
| 21:23.29 | d_ | jim: i tried using module-assistant but didnt see any options for promise |
| 21:23.31 | psychonate | ah, yes, I see what you mean |
| 21:23.43 | psychonate | Akbar, what about apt-get vs. aptitude? |
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| 21:23.55 | Akbar | aptitude is menu like |
| 21:24.10 | Akbar | start it up and see for yourself |
| 21:24.16 | xrgtn | This was discussed before, but I don't see any outcome -- krb5kds doesn't bind to "lo" interface... |
| 21:24.17 | jim | d_ module-assistant is for -separate- packages containing kernel-loadable modules |
| 21:24.22 | psychonate | Akbar, still installing. |
| 21:24.28 | d_ | jim: what do you suggest? |
| 21:24.33 | Akbar | apt-get is cute :) |
| 21:24.40 | CooooooKIE_Crisp | hello. when i try to kill x by press alt+backspace it just returns me to the gnome logon screen which is still running it. how exactly do i kill x? |
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| 21:24.48 | psychonate | Akbar, I've used it in Ubuntu, but not aptitude. |
| 21:24.49 | d_ | jim: i tried googling every combination.. mostly found stuff in other languages that didnt translate well |
| 21:24.50 | xrgtn | I saw proposals to add an cmdline option to kdc but neither was implemented |
| 21:24.59 | Akbar | CooooooKIE_Crisp.. /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 21:25.05 | jim | d_: I -think- there might be modules in the kernel source that might support your device |
| 21:25.15 | d_ | jim: how do I turn it on? |
| 21:25.29 | d_ | jim: because I dont see the /dev/ in df |
| 21:25.29 | sorush21 | anyone recommend good free webhosting... |
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| 21:25.52 | d_ | diablo:/usr/src# make config |
| 21:25.52 | d_ | make: *** No rule to make target `config'. Stop. |
| 21:26.01 | jim | you have to find out definitively which driver is for your card |
| 21:26.07 | d_ | i have the driver |
| 21:26.15 | s_ward | CooooooKIE_Crisp, that's not X, it's GDM |
| 21:26.16 | jim | what's the name of it? |
| 21:26.41 | jim | that's very promising... (oshit, another pun...) |
| 21:26.53 | AlexDusty | hello, anybody knows how to modify an initrd image? |
| 21:26.54 | d_ | jim: dunno, dled the source and couldnt make it |
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| 21:27.07 | jcole | As root I did: |
| 21:27.07 | jcole | echo "ALL: localhost" >> /etc/hosts.allow; echo "localhost" >> /etc/hosts.equiv |
| 21:27.07 | jcole | As regular user i did: |
| 21:27.10 | jim | what's the file name? |
| 21:27.11 | jcole | echo "localhost" >> $HOME/.rhosts |
| 21:27.11 | jcole | But, |
| 21:27.11 | jcole | rsh user@localhost ls |
| 21:27.13 | jcole | still does not work.. any ideas? |
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| 21:27.14 | d_ | jim: when I say make, I mean i couldnt make config in the kernel source |
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| 21:27.34 | d_ | jim: ft3xx.o is the name of the driver |
| 21:28.00 | jim | see what happens when you modprobe ft3xx |
| 21:28.22 | d_ | not found, sec |
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| 21:28.59 | rob_lt | !test |
| 21:28.59 | dpkg | Sorry, rob_lt, I didn't get your test. |
| 21:28.59 | jcole | oops |
| 21:29.21 | jim | ok... it would be good if someone could find you a debianized source package for it |
| 21:29.24 | Aeng | can anyone reach vmware.com? |
| 21:29.30 | d_ | jim: tell me about it |
| 21:29.31 | Aeng | seems to be down... |
| 21:29.42 | Rawplayer | i can ping i |
| 21:29.43 | Rawplayer | t |
| 21:29.48 | d_ | ft3xx.o |
| 21:29.58 | Aeng | hrm |
| 21:30.04 | Aeng | must be this connection then |
| 21:30.08 | rumpl | Aeng, been there 2min ago.. |
| 21:30.30 | Stereo | I have two directories that contain nested directories of files, e.g. foo/a/aa , foo/a/bb , bar/a/aa , bar/a/cc , etc. . Is there a clean way of merging them both, overwriting the older version of duplicates with the newer one? |
| 21:30.39 | psychonate | I remember using an animated splash screen for lilo. Does such a thing exist for grub? I haven't really used grub much. |
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| 21:31.01 | d_ | jim: the source wont compile because there is no options for 2.6 kernel |
| 21:31.03 | Technel | How do I change the resolution of the command line outside of X? |
| 21:31.10 | ulitz | when I load the videodev drivers.. shouldn't the device /dev/video0 be created? |
| 21:31.19 | rumpl | d_ what are you trying to do |
| 21:31.35 | Aeng | ah ok there it goes |
| 21:31.36 | d_ | rumpl: trying to get my PCI raid controller to work |
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| 21:31.41 | Aeng | thanks |
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| 21:32.00 | douglas | man i love firing up a net install cd into a windows box and just deleting the fucking partitions and going buckwild configuring sound and all the glory!!! Yeah! |
| 21:32.05 | rumpl | d_ ane the problem is what? there's no drivers? |
| 21:32.10 | apokryphos | Is there a command to display *Network* uptime? |
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| 21:32.18 | petemc | ulitz: any decent guide should tell you to check dmesg and /var/log/messages |
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| 21:32.32 | douglas | petemc: Yeah baby!!! Yeah! |
| 21:32.35 | douglas | all right. |
| 21:32.37 | davidmccabe | Hi folks. What is a command-line utility that searches through the package database? |
| 21:32.37 | rumpl | Technel, it's not the resolution, you need frame buffers |
| 21:32.45 | d_ | rumpl: well, i dled the source from promise.com, but it wont compile (i follow the README perfect), I want to check to see if its a module in the kernel already, and how to turn it on if so |
| 21:32.54 | Technel | rumpl: Right, how do i change it? I know I have before, I can't remember how though |
| 21:33.02 | petemc | davidmccabe: /msg dpkg search |
| 21:33.11 | douglas | davidmccabe: apt .. apt-get install __package name___, apt-get search _____ ... |
| 21:33.30 | rumpl | well did you search in the config of the kernel |
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| 21:33.36 | davidmccabe | douglas: one would think so, but no. |
| 21:33.38 | davidmccabe | petemc: thanks. |
| 21:33.39 | d_ | rumpl: i dont know how |
| 21:33.45 | petemc | douglas: its apt-cache search |
| 21:33.47 | rumpl | Technel, you must set it in lilo.conf if you have fb |
| 21:33.56 | rumpl | d_ go in /usr/src |
| 21:33.58 | douglas | shit did i say apt cache search |
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| 21:34.00 | douglas | i mean get |
| 21:34.02 | simonrvn | man apt |
| 21:34.03 | douglas | i meant search |
| 21:34.05 | Technel | rumpl: No, I have GRUB |
| 21:34.06 | rumpl | d_ do you have kernel source? |
| 21:34.15 | rumpl | Technel, sorry then i dunno |
| 21:34.17 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 21:34.25 | d_ | rumpl: yes |
| 21:34.29 | douglas | fuck i just spilt all my jameson all over the keyboard |
| 21:34.41 | douglas | I knew it was apt cache goddamnit |
| 21:34.44 | rumpl | d_ is it untared? |
| 21:34.49 | douglas | that was my last glass |
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| 21:35.00 | d_ | rumpl: kernel-source-2.6.8 its a folder |
| 21:35.08 | rumpl | d_ once untard make an symbolic alias name linux |
| 21:35.11 | d_ | rumpl: i apt-get installed it |
| 21:35.15 | stew | d_: what are you going to enable in the kernel that is not already enabled in a debian kernel? |
| 21:35.18 | rumpl | d_ man alias |
| 21:35.37 | stew | rumpl: wtf is man alias supposed to show him? |
| 21:35.49 | d_ | stew: i dont know, but my raid array hdds arent showing up with I try and list them |
| 21:35.54 | rumpl | stew, how to make aliases |
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| 21:36.06 | stew | rumpl: alias is a shell function |
| 21:36.14 | s_ward | Technel, if using the automagic kernel list, add the relevant options to the line beginning: # kopt= |
| 21:36.16 | rumpl | stew, so.... |
| 21:36.26 | d_ | stop fighting! |
| 21:36.27 | s_ward | Technel, and run update-grub afterwards |
| 21:36.36 | stew | rumpl: so it doesn't have a manpage |
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| 21:36.57 | Technel | s_ward: In menu.lst? |
| 21:36.59 | rumpl | stew, shit i ment man ln |
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| 21:37.03 | s_ward | Technel, yes |
| 21:37.04 | rumpl | stew your right |
| 21:37.05 | d_ | >< |
| 21:37.05 | stew | d_: if your card was supported by a 2.6.8 kernel the debian kernel will have it supported |
| 21:37.17 | morphiushacker | #flood |
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| 21:37.24 | d_ | stew: it should, how do I test to see if its there? |
| 21:37.25 | rob_lt | you don't have to update grub like you do lilo |
| 21:37.27 | stew | d_: are you running discover? |
| 21:37.31 | d_ | stew: no |
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| 21:37.47 | d_ | stew: im apt-getting it now |
| 21:37.55 | Technel | s_ward: I found # kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro, but what option do I need to add? |
| 21:38.10 | s_ward | Technel, that's something you'll need to find out by reading the kernel docs |
| 21:38.13 | d_ | stew: what do I do with it? |
| 21:38.32 | d_ | stew: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20619 (FastTrak TX4000) shows up |
| 21:38.32 | stew | /etc/init.d/discover restart ; it should hopefully load the driver for your raid card |
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| 21:38.43 | s_ward | Technel, the framebuffer docs are in Documentation/fb |
| 21:38.47 | stew | d_: shows up where? |
| 21:38.55 | d_ | stew: when I type discover in a shell |
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| 21:39.31 | stew | d_: then it should hopefully have loaded the driver for you and you should have access to your raid card now |
| 21:39.50 | Technel | s_ward: Where is Documentation? |
| 21:39.50 | morphiushacker | How can I start a program when linux starts? I know I can use init scripts but A) I need to pass parameters/switches to the program I start and B) they are a little complex. Is there a more dos-style batch file type way of doing this and/or can I pass parameters within an init script? |
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| 21:40.02 | ulitz | petemc: wouldn't loading v4l in x.org work? |
| 21:40.08 | d_ | stew: okay.. how can I find where it is so I know how to mount it? |
| 21:40.11 | s_ward | Technel, install kernel-doc-<version> |
| 21:40.39 | s_ward | Technel, then it will be in /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-<version>/ |
| 21:40.42 | sorush21 | anyone here using afraid.org |
| 21:40.56 | valdyn_ | morphiushacker: which init script is 'less complex' than a simple dos batch file? |
| 21:40.57 | stew | d_: dmesg | less ; and look towards the end of the file, it should tell what devices it's using, probably /dev/sda or something similar |
| 21:41.11 | stew | morphiushacker: what program are you trying to start? |
| 21:41.16 | stew | morphiushacker: and how did you install it? |
| 21:41.25 | morphiushacker | I'm saying, as far as I know there isn't one. I was wondering if there was. |
| 21:41.31 | morphiushacker | I installed the program via apt. |
| 21:41.35 | Technel | How do I free locks? |
| 21:41.44 | stew | morphiushacker: what is it? |
| 21:41.53 | morphiushacker | It origionally started in a script which i disabled (on purpose) |
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| 21:42.06 | stew | morphiushacker: how did you disable it? |
| 21:42.11 | morphiushacker | I need to start it in a different mode. |
| 21:42.16 | valdyn_ | Technel: which kind of lock? |
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| 21:42.25 | stew | Technel: generally stop the program holding on to the lock, but you should be more specific |
| 21:42.33 | Technel | Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 21:42.35 | douglas | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.38 | douglas | woops |
| 21:42.44 | valdyn_ | Technel: look at /var/run/ |
| 21:42.44 | morphiushacker | I don't remember, exactly, but I commented it out of some obscure script. It did the trick. |
| 21:42.48 | stew | Technel: stop apt | aptituce | synaptic or whatever you left running |
| 21:42.58 | stew | morphiushacker: you need to find that obscure script then |
| 21:43.12 | morphiushacker | why can't I just use another one? |
| 21:43.17 | stew | morphiushacker: you can |
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| 21:43.23 | Technel | stew: I didn't leave apt running. |
| 21:43.23 | stew | morphiushacker: i don't know why you want to |
| 21:43.32 | stew | Technel: aptitude | synaptic then |
| 21:43.33 | morphiushacker | and will that obscure script pass the switches I need? |
| 21:43.34 | stew | Technel: or dpkg |
| 21:43.44 | morphiushacker | so why not just create a new one elsewhere? |
| 21:43.52 | morphiushacker | would you know how to do that? |
| 21:43.56 | stew | morphiushacker: i would |
| 21:43.57 | Technel | stew: Stop isn't even a command |
| 21:44.00 | Feral_Kid | Is there any packages that will allow for a quick e-mail server setup? It needs to do postfix with all the antispam stuff, webmail and if it could be administered from LDAP as opposed to having to create user accounts, that would be good to go as well... |
| 21:44.08 | stew | christ |
| 21:44.08 | d_ | stew: VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) readonly. |
| 21:44.08 | d_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.10 | valdyn_ | Technel: 'ps aux | grep dpkg' |
| 21:44.21 | d_ | stew: sda is my usb hdd |
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| 21:44.38 | Technel | root 5605 0.0 0.0 1700 352 pts/2 R+ 16:44 0:00 grep dpkg |
| 21:44.38 | Technel | michael:/home/michael# kill 5605 |
| 21:44.38 | Technel | bash: kill: (5605) - No such process |
| 21:44.49 | stew | shit what am i doing here on a sunday... i'm outa here |
| 21:44.58 | douglas | fuck it's sunday? |
| 21:45.04 | douglas | friggin #debian fucking up time and shit |
| 21:45.08 | Technel | haha |
| 21:45.17 | valdyn_ | Technel: haha, why are you trying to kill a process coming from a command that just finished? |
| 21:45.18 | FieldySnuts | ~permasunda |
| 21:45.19 | FieldySnuts | ~permasunday |
| 21:45.29 | douglas | and the speed .. that doesn't help |
| 21:45.30 | Technel | valdyn_: Because I can't run apt-get!! |
| 21:45.33 | ma3x | how can I copy the material from camcorder to the hdd ? |
| 21:45.35 | douglas | gotta lay off the crank |
| 21:45.35 | FieldySnuts | jesus, the onslaught of deletions on apt continues |
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| 21:45.43 | FieldySnuts | guess nobody noticed |
| 21:45.46 | rob_lt | killall -9 apt-get |
| 21:45.48 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: permasunday |
| 21:45.48 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:45.51 | douglas | FieldySnuts: put your trust in apt .. it will trust you |
| 21:45.57 | valdyn_ | Technel: that's beyond logic, anyway: reboot or delete the lockfile. |
| 21:46.01 | Technel | michael:/home/michael# killall -9 apt-get |
| 21:46.01 | Technel | apt-get: no process killed |
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| 21:46.15 | FieldySnuts | apt: gender? |
| 21:46.15 | apt | I'm female |
| 21:46.27 | Technel | valdyn_: As I asked before, HOW do I delete / WHERE is the lockfile? |
| 21:46.27 | douglas | that just blew my mind |
| 21:46.33 | s_ward | Technel, try ps ax | grep apt -- should find aptitude, apt-get or synaptic, then kill the relevent process ID |
| 21:46.38 | deadcat | someone apt-get update && apt-cache search xorg on testing please |
| 21:46.43 | valdyn_ | Technel: and i told you to look in /var/run/ |
| 21:46.47 | welson | lsof is something i use when i can't find the process locking something else.. |
| 21:46.49 | ma3x | how to copy from firewire camcorder to HDD ? |
| 21:46.54 | rob_lt | Technel: and nothing in /var/lock or /var/run? |
| 21:47.00 | douglas | why do the && when you could just do;this? |
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| 21:47.14 | FieldySnuts | good habbit |
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| 21:47.22 | Technel | /var/run has some things in it, I don't see anything about apt |
| 21:47.25 | Sazpaimon_ | hey guys |
| 21:47.30 | douglas | hey! |
| 21:47.30 | Sazpaimon_ | who has experience with webmin? |
| 21:47.31 | Technel | or dpkg |
| 21:47.31 | FieldySnuts | ~handhold Technel |
| 21:47.31 | apt | ACTION takes Technel by the hand. "There, there. It'll all be better soon." |
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| 21:47.38 | FieldySnuts | Sazpaimon_: very few as it sucks |
| 21:47.38 | douglas | Sazpaimon_: yes |
| 21:47.40 | welson | rob_lt, what type of camcorder? |
| 21:47.41 | deadcat | Sazpaimon_: no one |
| 21:47.46 | douglas | Sazpaimon_: not impressed |
| 21:47.49 | FieldySnuts | damn, it really is sunday here |
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| 21:48.04 | Sazpaimon_ | I need to get bind set up |
| 21:48.04 | douglas | Shit that means it's monday soon!!! Jesus!@ |
| 21:48.05 | Sazpaimon_ | "Failed to start BIND : Unknown error" |
| 21:48.10 | d_ | question: discover shows that my PCI raid card is enabled, but I cant find it to mount it |
| 21:48.12 | Sazpaimon_ | is what it gives me when I try to start it |
| 21:48.14 | FieldySnuts | set it up manually, webmin is not the way to do so |
| 21:48.20 | FieldySnuts | or pay an admin |
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| 21:48.23 | kelippoth | !users |
| 21:48.23 | dpkg | it has been said that users is Mithrandi |
| 21:48.25 | FieldySnuts | ~fuck Technel |
| 21:48.35 | FieldySnuts | fine guess i'll stop using apt since he's neutered. |
| 21:48.42 | mulet_ | could someone explain me why even the latest release i just installed keep running kernel 2.4 and xfree86 |
| 21:48.43 | douglas | FieldySnuts: stop bumming me out on spacetime continuiums! |
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| 21:49.03 | FieldySnuts | mulet_: those are still the defaults |
| 21:49.08 | chris | mulet_: to install with 2.6 type 'linux26' at the command prompt |
| 21:49.12 | s_ward | mulet_, because you didn't select the new ones |
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| 21:49.41 | rob_lt | douglas: && neads a successful completion of the previous command before continuing, while ; will simply execute command after command, regardless of whether or not they return an error. |
| 21:49.54 | Sazpaimon_ | alright then |
| 21:49.56 | Sazpaimon_ | what about VHCS |
| 21:50.01 | Sazpaimon_ | anyone good with that? |
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| 21:50.30 | Maneiten | "version magic '2.6.11-1-686 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.11-1-686 gcc-3.3" <- does that mean I should have compiled a driver with gcc3.3? |
| 21:50.41 | Maneiten | It says so when I try to load a driver I just compiled :) |
| 21:50.50 | valdyn_ | Technel: look at /var/lib/dpkg/lock |
| 21:50.54 | mulet_ | i can configure and compile a 2.6 but i'm still amazed to see such old stuff kernel2.4/sfree86 in the latest release |
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| 21:51.12 | FieldySnuts | whine whine |
| 21:51.13 | Technel | valdyn_: Doesn't matter, I restarted. And now apt-cache can't find kernel-docs-2.6.8 anymore. nice |
| 21:51.48 | mulet_ | there is matter to whine, indeed |
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| 21:52.10 | s_ward | Technel, kernel-doc-2.6.8 |
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| 21:52.22 | valdyn_ | Technel: why did your dpkg crash in the first place? did you run kill(all) -9 on it ? |
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| 21:53.12 | valdyn_ | !kill |
| 21:53.18 | valdyn_ | !kill -9 |
| 21:53.30 | s_ward | hehe |
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| 21:55.33 | s_ward | valdyn_, I think you just killed all the people wanting our help.. no one's asking anything |
| 21:55.36 | magnew | Hie! I'm unsuccessfully trying to apt-get'ing php5-mysqli. Am I in the right place for getting help? |
| 21:55.37 | ma3x | is Netgear Network-Card 10/100/1000 debian compatible? |
| 21:55.45 | s_ward | damn, famous last bloody words |
| 21:55.48 | FieldySnuts | not specific enough, what model number |
| 21:56.32 | valdyn_ | !php5 |
| 21:56.32 | ma3x | PCMCIA / 32Bit N° article original: GA511GR |
| 21:56.32 | dpkg | i guess php5 is at ``deb http://packages.dotdeb.org ./'' but remember to read http://devel.dotdeb.org and remove the line or you'll hose your system, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/12/msg01992.html (for sid), but don't yell at us when they break your system, or see http://bugs.debian.org/262977 |
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| 21:56.57 | magnew | :) thanks |
| 21:56.58 | FieldySnuts | I don'know, stick the brand name, model number and "linux" in google, you should find pointers |
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| 21:57.08 | FieldySnuts | generally netgear stuff sucks though, good luck |
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| 21:57.26 | nite613 | alias murder='kill -9' |
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| 21:57.35 | FieldySnuts | @murder nite613 |
| 21:57.37 | Vyrus001 | yo... anybody know where i can still get a good wpa cracker? (an alt mirror for peap perhaps?) |
| 21:57.39 | ma3x | FieldySnuts, can you recommend me something? |
| 21:57.45 | FieldySnuts | Vyrus001: go away cracker |
| 21:57.53 | chris | Vyrus001: there are no good wpa crackers |
| 21:58.03 | ma3x | can anybody recommend a good pcmcia wireless card? |
| 21:58.06 | Vyrus001 | the peap one wasent bad |
| 21:58.07 | nite613 | is cracker considered a racial slur in this channel? ;) |
| 21:58.08 | Maneiten | How can I compile something with a specific version of GCC? |
| 21:58.08 | ma3x | that is very linux compatible? |
| 21:58.16 | Vyrus001 | i uesd to habe it but i lost it |
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| 21:58.27 | e2e | Hi, i'm looking for an administrator+user manual for debian, the manuals which i found (includes debian.org) seems "old" or incomplete, except progeny's user guide. |
| 21:58.36 | FieldySnuts | you can take it however you want, however I mean in the term of malicious use of knowledge |
| 21:58.38 | zinx | Maneiten: use gcc-specificversion instead of gcc |
| 21:58.42 | s_ward | Maneiten, CC=gcc-<version> |
| 21:58.44 | nite613 | e2e: Sounds like you've found them |
| 21:58.44 | Vyrus001 | ma3x: the 108 netgear one works pritty well |
| 21:58.48 | FieldySnuts | which hacker does not describe, but is a lame media term |
| 21:58.50 | FarrisG | How do I use awk to print "first item <SPACE> fourth item"? if I do {print $1 " " $4} I get a newline between them |
| 21:58.52 | Vyrus001 | and it runs with madwifi drivers on linux |
| 21:58.58 | Maneiten | zinx: well, its a driver, so it uses "make" and "make instal" :> |
| 21:59.06 | zinx | Maneiten: kernel driver? |
| 21:59.12 | Maneiten | zinx: yupp |
| 21:59.17 | Maneiten | Think so :> |
| 21:59.21 | Maneiten | Its the ipw2200 |
| 21:59.22 | zinx | Maneiten: first off, i will note that you should be using make-kpkg |
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| 22:00.01 | zinx | Maneiten: second, if you can't use make-kpkg for whatever reason, use 'make CC=gcc-version ... ' like 'make CC=gcc-3.4 ...' for instance |
| 22:00.12 | valdyn_ | Maneiten: why not 'apt-get install ipw2200-source && m-a a-i ipw2200' ? |
| 22:00.12 | dondelelcaro | FarrisG: '{print "$1 $4"}' should work |
| 22:00.29 | Maneiten | zinx: allright |
| 22:00.31 | ma3x | how about this one: D-Link PC Card 128Bit WEP, 108MB |
| 22:00.35 | ma3x | is it compatible? |
| 22:00.43 | zinx | Maneiten: if you can use make-kpkg, "fakeroot env MAKEFLAGS='CC=gcc-3.4' make-kpkg --revision=foo modules_image" works rather well, and produces a nice package for you |
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| 22:01.04 | dondelelcaro | FarrisG: err, nevermind. your example actually does work; you've just got a newline somewhere else; EX: echo a b c d|awk '{print $1 " " $4}' |
| 22:01.04 | ma3x | is D-LINk compatible? |
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| 22:01.17 | Maneiten | zinx: How do I recognize something as a "kernel driver"? Aren't every driver a kernel-driver? :) |
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| 22:01.32 | zinx | Maneiten: believe it or not, some are user-space |
| 22:01.40 | e2e | nite613: last update for progeny's guide in 2003... |
| 22:01.42 | zinx | Maneiten: USB devices like printers and scanners mostly |
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| 22:01.49 | Maneiten | I see :) |
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| 22:02.17 | zinx | Maneiten: the difference is, you don't have to recompile them every kernel upgrade, and they don't require your running kernel's headers specificly ;) |
| 22:02.25 | FarrisG | dondelelcaro: I don't think so. If I put the " " between them, it puts a newline. If I put "" between them, it concatenates them without a space or a newline |
| 22:02.35 | zinx | Maneiten: also, they are all most likely packaged for you already |
| 22:02.39 | dondelelcaro | FarrisG: run the example that I gave you |
| 22:03.00 | douglas | i see my digital timewarner cable box thingy has itself an IP address .. Though it's not running debian, are people attempting to do k-rad things with that? |
| 22:03.15 | FieldySnuts | "k-rad"? wtf is that |
| 22:03.25 | douglas | Oldschool terminology bitch |
| 22:03.28 | FarrisG | dondelelcaro: Huh... Weird |
| 22:03.33 | douglas | because i am so oldschool |
| 22:03.34 | zinx | FieldySnuts: /<-r4d d00d |
| 22:03.35 | idimmu | kicking radical |
| 22:03.38 | FieldySnuts | don't call me a bitch, asshole, I will rip your head in half |
| 22:03.44 | douglas | word idimmu |
| 22:03.59 | douglas | FieldySnuts: near NYC? c'mon over pussy! |
| 22:04.01 | Maneiten | zinx: thanks.. works now :) |
| 22:04.07 | idimmu | word |
| 22:04.09 | douglas | i'll pay your cab fare to the hospital |
| 22:04.11 | dondelelcaro | douglas, FieldySnuts: take it elsewhere, please. |
| 22:04.20 | douglas | dondek: true, aiight. |
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| 22:04.38 | douglas | dondelelcaro: that is ... |
| 22:04.43 | Gospel | hi |
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| 22:10.14 | d_ | alright friends, i have two arrays (that work in windows, im dual booting), and im trying to get them to work in debian, but, discover shows my raid card, but df doesnt show my drives |
| 22:10.28 | deadcat | how do i mount a dvd iso? |
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| 22:11.11 | mallok | Need to know what should I put in "nameserver 1" and "nameserver 2" fields of my domain registration form, where should these values point to? |
| 22:11.15 | FieldySnuts | man mount, look at the loop option |
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| 22:11.28 | mallok | Can be that values IP addresses? |
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| 22:11.34 | deadcat | FieldySnuts: i have mount -o loop blah.iso /mnt/blah |
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| 22:11.40 | deadcat | FieldySnuts: udf is loaded |
| 22:11.52 | FieldySnuts | udf doesn't have anything to do with it |
| 22:11.55 | chris | mallok: nameservers that are going to tell the world where your domain is |
| 22:11.56 | deadcat | oh |
| 22:11.58 | FieldySnuts | bbl |
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| 22:12.08 | mallok | Can be that values IP addresses? |
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| 22:12.17 | FieldySnuts | mallok: huh? |
| 22:12.40 | mallok | Can be ip addresses just domain names |
| 22:12.42 | mallok | ? |
| 22:12.45 | deadcat | ok how do i mount osxtiger.iso ? (= |
| 22:12.53 | FieldySnuts | i have no idea what you're asking.. bbl |
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| 22:13.50 | sprink | I love you dpkg |
| 22:14.01 | mallok | My problem is that I have filled that values with IP addresses pointing to my name server that resolves the name for my machine |
| 22:14.09 | ma3x | FieldySnuts, what does your nick mean? |
| 22:14.42 | mallok | but when I fill that addresses, the webpage that let me fill that values suddenly says that the values that I had just entered were invalid |
| 22:15.44 | deadcat | how do i end the [pdflush] procs? kill? |
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| 22:16.10 | mallok | I think that my name server is well configured, anyway I do not understand why I cannot point to my machine (that is where the domain should point to) |
| 22:16.12 | opensrc | hello. |
| 22:16.15 | ma3x | deadcat, just kill it |
| 22:16.20 | deadcat | k |
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| 22:16.40 | opensrc | can i ask a question about pam.d? |
| 22:16.40 | FieldySnuts | you don't do that |
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| 22:17.06 | deadcat | FieldySnuts: they are left behind from using losetup |
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| 22:17.35 | opensrc | hello... |
| 22:17.36 | kingmike | Anyone can compile OCaml programs using camlimages on debian ? |
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| 22:17.47 | FieldySnuts | they can? |
| 22:17.53 | kingmike | I always get an error related to libtiff.so.3 |
| 22:18.01 | kingmike | where can I find this library ? |
| 22:18.11 | opensrc | i have a question on ssh. anyone can help? |
| 22:18.16 | streuner | kingmike: /msg dpkg search |
| 22:18.20 | deadcat | opensrc: ask the fucking q |
| 22:18.23 | streuner | opensrc: no |
| 22:18.33 | streuner | as long as you don't ask |
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| 22:18.41 | e2e | kingmike: apt-cache search libtiff |
| 22:18.45 | opensrc | each time, i log in my machine. |
| 22:18.53 | d_ | alright friends, i have two arrays (that work in windows, im dual booting), and im trying to get them to work in debian, but, discover shows my raid card, but df doesnt show my drives |
| 22:18.54 | deadcat | !tell opensrc about enter |
| 22:18.57 | kingmike | streuner, e2e : thanks |
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| 22:19.05 | opensrc | there is a message "you have new mail" |
| 22:19.10 | opensrc | but i'm sure i don't. |
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| 22:19.18 | deadcat | opensrc: yes you do. |
| 22:19.22 | opensrc | anything wrong about my sshd or pam.d config. |
| 22:19.43 | deadcat | opensrc: read your $MAIL or something |
| 22:19.51 | e2e | opensrc: :) type mail command and see what you got |
| 22:19.52 | kingmike | opensrc : type mail in a command line |
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| 22:20.11 | kingmike | opensrc : it is not email, it is system mails |
| 22:20.20 | opensrc | $MAIL is pointing to my mailbox. |
| 22:20.39 | deadcat | if he doesnt know about his mails, mail(1) is gonna fuck hiim up. just type "from" |
| 22:20.49 | s_ward | d_, look in dmesg for signs of what devices your arrays might be using; also, try fdisk -l, rather than df |
| 22:20.54 | sadfgg | How do I generate the default ~/.gconf/ files for a user if I just created him? |
| 22:21.08 | deadcat | sadfgg: /etc/skel/ |
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| 22:22.01 | d_ | s_ward: i did both those options, the drives dont show up |
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| 22:22.10 | sadfgg | deadcat, ok, how would that look with a command, lets say I create the user x? |
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| 22:22.31 | opensrc | both mail and from show my mails.. of course. |
| 22:22.38 | opensrc | i didn't see anything wrong. |
| 22:22.39 | deadcat | sadfgg: cp that dir to /etc/skel then create user y |
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| 22:22.58 | opensrc | deadcat: my question is that i don't have new mail, but |
| 22:23.11 | opensrc | it always says that 'you have new mail' |
| 22:23.17 | s_ward | d_, dmesg has no signs of detecting your RAID? You might need to load the relevant kernel module(s) manually -- I don't know what those relevant modules are |
| 22:23.25 | nunez | anybody download from newsgroups and familiar with the par2 and .001-200 etc.. process of uncompressing? |
| 22:23.41 | d_ | s_ward: how would I load them (im a 4 day out linux newb) |
| 22:23.43 | kingmike | sadfgg : In my opinion, he just has to open a session |
| 22:23.48 | FieldySnuts | nah, we don't hang out on warez groups |
| 22:23.56 | sadfgg | deadcat, ok, but If the Gnome settings change then this is worhless |
| 22:24.01 | s_ward | d_, modprobe <modulename> |
| 22:24.12 | deadcat | opensrc: i dont know. what mua and mta you using? what shell? |
| 22:24.15 | zinx | nunez: par2 is an error correction scheme |
| 22:24.19 | deadcat | sadfgg: no shit. |
| 22:24.22 | zinx | nunez: not compression |
| 22:24.26 | opensrc | i'm using postfix. |
| 22:24.34 | opensrc | and .. bash. |
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| 22:24.55 | opensrc | i checked my pam.d/ssh file |
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| 22:24.59 | sadfgg | kingmike, yes, but how, I want this to be done in a script (I don't want to login GDE with the new user) |
| 22:25.06 | opensrc | it's correct. |
| 22:25.08 | deadcat | opensrc: $MAIL points to $HOME/Maildir or $HOME/Mail right? |
| 22:25.19 | d_ | s_ward: nothing, it doesnt show up, only the PCI card shows up in #discover |
| 22:25.32 | opensrc | $MAIL points to /var/mail/username... |
| 22:25.42 | opensrc | i think it's right, is it? |
| 22:25.46 | ulitz | so anyone know how to load v4l drivers for /dev/video0 to exist? |
| 22:25.49 | cat | anyone here knows a good place to buy books? |
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| 22:25.54 | deadcat | opensrc: default postfix uses maildir |
| 22:25.55 | cat | any stores? |
| 22:26.14 | gravity | A local used book shop |
| 22:26.14 | s_ward | d_, what is the PCI card? (model/chipset) |
| 22:26.17 | deadcat | cat: stores == super markets? |
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| 22:26.29 | cat | deadcat: book stores, |
| 22:26.30 | opensrc | my MAILDIR is empty |
| 22:26.36 | opensrc | is it the problem about? |
| 22:26.37 | d_ | s_ward: promise fasttrack tx4000 ata133 |
| 22:26.41 | sadfgg | How do I open a session for user x to generate his ~/.gconf/ files? |
| 22:26.42 | deadcat | cat: books are useless |
| 22:26.50 | opensrc | i will try to set it to /var/mail/username then. |
| 22:26.56 | sparr_ | how can i enable DVD burning (specifically the DVD-ish image sizes, instead of maxxing at 99min CDs) in xcdroast? ive already got the appropriate CDR_SECURITY option set |
| 22:26.57 | opensrc | will report back soon. |
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| 22:27.03 | opensrc | thanks, deadcat. |
| 22:27.05 | cat | deadcat: why u say that? |
| 22:27.06 | d_ | s_ward: the drivers I dled off promise dont compile under 2.6 |
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| 22:27.18 | deadcat | cat: fucking oreilly (= |
| 22:27.37 | kingmike | sadfgg : maybe you can create a 'test' account, then open it, and make a .tar.gz with the .gconf files, then make a script to untar the files |
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| 22:27.56 | deadcat | common guys. how do i mount a dvd image? |
| 22:28.03 | deadcat | dvd iso image |
| 22:28.12 | FieldySnuts | mount -o loop blah.iso /some/mount/point |
| 22:28.25 | FieldySnuts | if that doesn't work, hell if I know because i do it daily |
| 22:28.33 | opensrc | deadcat: it doesn't work. |
| 22:28.34 | peterS | FieldySnuts: and if you add -r, it doesn't warn you about being read-only |
| 22:28.37 | sadfgg | kingmike, then again, if the GNOME setting file changes this is worthless, I need the .gconf files to be generated from the current version to the user |
| 22:28.41 | FieldySnuts | rather redundant |
| 22:28.49 | FieldySnuts | ~doesn't work |
| 22:28.49 | apt | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 22:28.53 | deadcat | FieldySnuts: must specify fs type |
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| 22:29.07 | FieldySnuts | no idea, try -t iso9660 |
| 22:29.19 | peterS | deadcat: should only be needed if the iso9660 module isn't already loaded |
| 22:29.20 | FieldySnuts | should definately be figuring this out on it's own though, something may be wrong with that iso |
| 22:29.26 | ssusee | can i install xorg by commond apt-get? |
| 22:29.31 | d_ | yes |
| 22:29.43 | d_ | apt-cache search xorg |
| 22:29.53 | zinx | no |
| 22:29.59 | deadcat | peterS: i think i have iso9660 compiled in. since i can mount cds that way. |
| 22:30.00 | zinx | xorg is only in sid, and you don't want to run sid. |
| 22:30.12 | d_ | heh |
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| 22:30.17 | ssusee | thank you very much |
| 22:30.19 | deadcat | peterS: this is a osxtiger.iso though |
| 22:30.33 | peterS | deadcat: oh, could be hfs or udf too then |
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| 22:30.36 | gravity | !xorg sarge |
| 22:30.36 | dpkg | i heard xorg sarge is http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ for sarge backports of the xorg packages. Use at your own risk. |
| 22:30.38 | nunez | zinx: All these files I've downloaded have .001-.200 extentions, yet dont have a .rar file? |
| 22:30.39 | deadcat | peterS: ok |
| 22:30.55 | FieldySnuts | grep iso proc/filesystems (as root), if it returns iso9660, then the module is loaded or compiled in |
| 22:31.00 | d_ | !promise raid |
| 22:31.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, promise raid is annoying to get working in debian; some fine gentleman made a howto for potato: http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1067&nIdPage=4 and another equally fine gent made one for woody: http://colby.tjs.org/~brendandg/promise-ft66-howto/howto.html |
| 22:31.01 | kingmike | ssusee : what desktop do you plan to use ? |
| 22:31.01 | peterS | nunez: point unrar at the first one |
| 22:31.06 | peterS | nunez: it should get the hint |
| 22:31.08 | FieldySnuts | modprobe -v iso9660 , if that fails, then ya screwed i guess |
| 22:31.11 | ma3x | FieldySnuts, what means your nick? |
| 22:31.14 | peterS | nunez: and next time *buy* your software and/or other media |
| 22:31.14 | nunez | peterS: Doesnt work |
| 22:31.15 | d_ | !promise sarge |
| 22:31.25 | deadcat | FieldySnuts: no need. i can mount regular cds. |
| 22:31.31 | ma3x | !sarge |
| 22:31.31 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
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| 22:31.48 | FieldySnuts | then you should be able to mound that iso. this means that it is not, in fact, an iso9660 image. it may be corrupt. what does file whatever.iso return? |
| 22:31.58 | deadcat | i am gonna use qemu to see if it boots |
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| 22:32.14 | phonic | it seems like gnome has 45 broken packages in unstable. can i get in |
| 22:32.18 | s_ward | d_, was that: modprobe ft3xx you tried? |
| 22:32.19 | phonic | it seems like gnome has 45 broken packages in unstable. can i get it from some other place? |
| 22:32.23 | FieldySnuts | phonic: gnome is eternally broken |
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| 22:32.50 | phonic | :-( |
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| 22:33.31 | deadcat | whats the command/option to run qemu? i rarely use it. qemu-ppc or qemu? |
| 22:33.39 | Stormchaser | Hi! Where can UI find helvetica font? |
| 22:33.45 | Stormchaser | s/UI/I |
| 22:34.09 | sparr_ | What tools exist for burning DVDs in linux without SCSI emulation? Are there front ends or GUIs for them? |
| 22:34.29 | deadcat | sparr_: apt-cache search dvd record |
| 22:34.29 | peterS | Stormchaser: a real helvetica? you probably have to pay for one |
| 22:34.35 | DoppelGanger | dear god |
| 22:34.44 | deadcat | DoppelGanger: what? |
| 22:34.55 | DoppelGanger | sparr_'s question |
| 22:35.00 | peterS | Stormchaser: some cheap knockoff? gsfonts-x11 and msttcorefonts (the latter not being free software) both have helvetica-a-likes |
| 22:35.09 | deadcat | DoppelGanger: i thought you were looking for me |
| 22:35.34 | Stormchaser | peterS: Thanks :) That's what I am looking for :) |
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| 22:35.41 | DoppelGanger | sorry deadcat i like my _____ live |
| 22:35.47 | TheHobbit | hi all... |
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| 22:36.05 | deadcat | DoppelGanger: the f you talking about? |
| 22:36.26 | daedalus_ | sparr_: not that I know of... all dvd/cd burners taht I've run across have required scsi emulation. |
| 22:36.30 | DoppelGanger | 5 letter word begins with a p, its a joke |
| 22:36.31 | hyde | synonym for cat |
| 22:36.36 | hyde | alive not dead |
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| 22:37.25 | deadcat | DoppelGanger: then next time dont "dear god" on me (= |
| 22:37.34 | deadcat | i am busy you know |
| 22:37.34 | DoppelGanger | ha ha |
| 22:37.42 | Simos | i've just make apt-get update on testing release , and iptables have a bug when using -m owner and segfault, could be a good idea using iptables from stable source ? |
| 22:37.52 | TheHobbit | I have problems in using make-kpkg, namely the initrd I got, has no initrd/vesafb.ko module, and after the boot, the vga=something option doesn't work.... |
| 22:38.24 | s_ward | Simos, probably not, why don't you just not upgrade iptables for now? |
| 22:38.25 | DoppelGanger | Simos: try it and tell us |
| 22:38.45 | Simos | i'm using it now |
| 22:38.48 | Simos | and look work |
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| 22:39.30 | Simos | 1.2.11 look work new 1.3.1_2 segfault |
| 22:39.31 | darkskiez | what would be the cause of a machine stalling on boot while exporting nfs paths ? |
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| 22:40.04 | daedalus_ | darkskiez: bad dns server? |
| 22:40.07 | DoppelGanger | so um rip out the new package and install the old one or compile it |
| 22:40.07 | FieldySnuts | nfs being shitty? |
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| 22:41.39 | s_ward | Simos, by defintion, packages in testing and unstable may not always work correctly, they are being tested, after all; if you don't understand that, or don't want that, don't use testing |
| 22:41.44 | AjLavJo | hey,i got a english keyboard now, is there a way to change that_ |
| 22:41.45 | darkskiez | daedalus_: thats my only hypothesis so far |
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| 22:42.16 | reilithion | Hi all. |
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| 22:42.42 | s_ward | Simos, however, if you can say exactly what went wrong, and read up on how to provide bug reports, by all means send in a bug report |
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| 22:43.03 | Simos | i understand , i use it on expèerimental shell hosting (so why not testing ?) but 90% of my chain is using -m owner and so |
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| 22:43.17 | Simos | i've already posted a bug report |
| 22:43.17 | goron | What does heterarchical mean in "Heterarchical network"? |
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| 22:43.36 | FieldySnuts | @gender |
| 22:43.36 | ravenbird | I'm pregnant |
| 22:43.47 | Simos | but it's hard for me speak english so i've been so synthetic |
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| 22:44.06 | reilithion | Just got my new lappy in the mail. There's something that came with it I can't figure out what to do with. |
| 22:44.33 | darkskiez | daedalus_: i have a server dead remotely and its sitting at that stage on boot. argh, |
| 22:44.53 | peterS | @congratulations |
| 22:44.56 | reilithion | It's a little boxy thing about 1 inch by half and inch by half an inch |
| 22:45.10 | reilithion | Looks like it's supposed to have a cord going through it |
| 22:45.14 | FieldySnuts | right, we'll figure out what it is from that |
| 22:45.20 | reilithion | the casing is a thin layer of plastic |
| 22:45.28 | peterS | reilithion: does it feel like a heavy magnet? |
| 22:45.31 | reilithion | inside, it's metal. |
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| 22:45.32 | FieldySnuts | put a picture up or something? |
| 22:45.33 | reilithion | Yes, kinda |
| 22:45.37 | ulitz | does anyone here use gnome-meeting? |
| 22:45.40 | reilithion | but it doesn't seem to be magnetic |
| 22:45.46 | FieldySnuts | ferrite? |
| 22:45.48 | ifvoid | reilithion: just iron, probabl |
| 22:45.48 | ifvoid | y |
| 22:45.49 | peterS | reilithion: it's for a VGA cable then |
| 22:45.53 | FieldySnuts | ulitz: used to, stopped since it's a peice of shit |
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| 22:45.59 | ifvoid | peterS: or the phone line |
| 22:46.05 | peterS | reilithion: you can pry it open then snap it on your cable |
| 22:46.06 | ulitz | FieldySnuts: what you use? |
| 22:46.12 | FieldySnuts | ulitz: a phone |
| 22:46.14 | AjLavJo | are not there a package manager that comes with debian? |
| 22:46.19 | DoppelGanger | ha ha |
| 22:46.19 | reilithion | What does it accomplish? |
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| 22:46.22 | FieldySnuts | geez. |
| 22:46.31 | ulitz | FieldySnuts: guess that would work |
| 22:46.44 | FieldySnuts | induces inductance in the wire, if you care you can google, the end result is to filter noise off of the line |
| 22:46.55 | reilithion | Ah. I see. |
| 22:46.56 | reilithion | Thanks. |
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| 22:47.07 | peterS | reilithion: bottom line, slightly clearer vga signal |
| 22:47.08 | daedalus_ | AjLavJo: Yes, dpkg. There are many many interfaces |
| 22:47.08 | ulitz | regardless.. haven't been able to get v4l loaded |
| 22:47.16 | ifvoid | reilithion: you probably won't need it, unless the noise gets in the way |
| 22:47.21 | AjLavJo | hmm okay |
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| 22:47.28 | AjLavJo | a gui one? |
| 22:47.37 | DoppelGanger | AjLavJo: debian.org |
| 22:47.54 | DoppelGanger | the answer is there somewhere i bet |
| 22:48.00 | daedalus_ | AjLavJo: apt-get is good for command line use... dselect if you don't have a gui, but synaptic is probably the best one to use if you have a X running. |
| 22:48.13 | daedalus_ | AjLavJo, synaptic |
| 22:48.16 | reilithion | Cool. Thank you, peterS, ifvoid. |
| 22:48.18 | ulitz | anyone use ivtv with debian? |
| 22:48.34 | AjLavJo | thank you, really nice of you to give me atleast one name daedalus_ |
| 22:49.01 | dli | daedalus_, I found dselect is useless for a n00b. runing tasksel should be ok |
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| 22:49.16 | TheHobbit | trying again..... How do I specify to make-kpkg to place a module (namely vesafb.ko) in the initrd image? I belive I must put some script in /etc/mkinitrd/scripts but how the script is called? and what should it do? |
| 22:49.20 | ulitz | are there any repos for the ivtv drivers.. I should say.. or at least any docs on how to load v4l |
| 22:49.22 | AjLavJo | anywhere i can read about my keyboard type problem, just the wrong language |
| 22:49.26 | daedalus_ | dli: true... though once you get beyond "I wanna set up X", it fail pretty miserably |
| 22:49.31 | dli | AjLavJo, apt-get install tasksel;tasksel |
| 22:49.50 | AjLavJo | i have tasksel thank you |
| 22:49.59 | TheHobbit | AjLavJo: try to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 -plow |
| 22:50.09 | dli | AjLavJo, than, get X and run synaptic |
| 22:50.10 | TheHobbit | and select the right kbd language |
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| 22:50.36 | AjLavJo | got x... so i am going to install synaptic :) |
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| 22:50.56 | daedalus_ | Holy spilt batman |
| 22:51.00 | AjLavJo | i just need to know how to fix the language of the keyboard too, would be easier to type too |
| 22:51.05 | TheHobbit | AjLavJo: if we are talking about console, replace xserver-xfree86 with console-common |
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| 22:51.24 | TheHobbit | AjLavJo: I gave you the answer |
| 22:51.27 | s_ward | ulitz, have you been to: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php ? |
| 22:51.29 | bruno_ | does installing unsermake harm automake in any way?!?!?! |
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| 22:51.34 | AjLavJo | oh i see |
| 22:51.35 | dli | AjLavJo, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, it will ask you to select your keyboard |
| 22:51.37 | FieldySnuts | damn lay off the punctuation |
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| 22:51.49 | TheHobbit | dli: only if priority is low |
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| 22:52.03 | TheHobbit | dli: I was thinking to fill a bug about it |
| 22:52.24 | TheHobbit | selection of keyboard should be at least 'medium' |
| 22:52.25 | daedalus_ | AjLavJo: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:52.42 | daedalus_ | AjLavJo, err... dli already has you covered I see |
| 22:52.43 | bruno_ | I NEED A REALLY QUICK HELP HERE!! |
| 22:52.44 | ulitz | s_ward: yeah... it said I needed to add contrib or non-free servers.. not sure which ones to use though |
| 22:52.45 | bruno_ | does installing unsermake harm automake in any way?!?!?! |
| 22:52.47 | TheHobbit | daedalus_: he must add -plow |
| 22:52.49 | DoppelGanger | wtf |
| 22:52.55 | daedalus_ | !tell bruno_ about ask |
| 22:52.59 | DoppelGanger | bruno_: stop whinning |
| 22:53.09 | daedalus_ | TheHobbit: why does he have to -plow? |
| 22:53.12 | dli | TheHobbit, I remember it asked me |
| 22:53.32 | TheHobbit | daedalus_: because the priority of the question about keyboard is 'medium' |
| 22:53.33 | s_ward | ulitz, http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=DebianHowTo |
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| 22:53.56 | TheHobbit | so it doesn't show iunless either debconf is configured to show low prioority question |
| 22:53.56 | daedalus_ | TheHobbit: So? questions default to medium priority |
| 22:54.03 | TheHobbit | or you add -plow |
| 22:54.29 | daedalus_ | TheHobbit: hmm.... |
| 22:54.31 | bruno_ | guys.. quick question here.. im on a hurry.. |
| 22:54.34 | bruno_ | does installing unsermake harm automake in any way?!?!?! |
| 22:54.36 | TheHobbit | daedalus_: sorry, I meant 'has priority higer than medium' |
| 22:54.41 | DoppelGanger | wtf |
| 22:54.41 | TheHobbit | lower |
| 22:54.42 | daedalus_ | TheHobbit: Ah |
| 22:54.46 | dondelelcaro | bruno_: it shouldn't; but if you continue repeating, you will be devoiced. |
| 22:54.50 | DoppelGanger | bruno_: piss off |
| 22:54.56 | TheHobbit | ok is 1 in the morning here |
| 22:55.00 | Simos | is possible back from testing release to stable , if i'll decide ? if so is there any documentation about ? |
| 22:55.04 | bruno_ | thanks.. thats all i wanted to know |
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| 22:55.40 | dli | TheHobbit, what if I choose to install in a specific language from a sarge disk? would the keyboard be correct then? |
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| 22:55.54 | TheHobbit | dli: no idea.... |
| 22:56.09 | dondelelcaro | peterS: there's your answer. ;-) |
| 22:56.31 | TheHobbit | dli: never tried that..... I normaly set LANGUAGE to en_us, but i still have an italian keyboard |
| 22:56.53 | s_ward | ulitz, if you still have trouble, you might want to try asking in #ivtv-dev (which I found out in the FAQ... all this from simple searches) |
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| 22:57.04 | dli | TheHobbit, great, debian should be international from the beginning |
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| 22:57.51 | ulitz | s_ward: thanks for your help |
| 22:57.55 | ulitz | greatly appreciated |
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| 22:58.16 | douglas | ok so i know how to startx .. but how could i kill x? |
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| 22:58.28 | douglas | not that i would or anything, hypothetically |
| 22:58.45 | dli | douglas, Ctl-Alt-Backspace |
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| 22:58.51 | dondelelcaro | douglas: just exit your window manager |
| 22:58.54 | douglas | that just brings me back to the login |
| 22:58.54 | daedalus_ | douglas: Uh, exit your wm? |
| 22:59.03 | douglas | looks like gdm |
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| 22:59.26 | daedalus_ | douglas: oh, if you started it via startx, then you probably have to do a /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 22:59.27 | douglas | i mean, kdm would be all pretty-like .. i think it's gdm |
| 22:59.44 | TheHobbit | AjLavJo: I was thinking, you may also select the layout from the gnome keyboard configuration tool.... and I think kde has somthing like that... |
| 22:59.47 | dli | douglas, try, /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 22:59.48 | douglas | daedalus_: ok thanks that sounds rightish .. i'll fire that up |
| 22:59.55 | douglas | dli: ty. |
| 23:00.33 | AjLavJo | i am removing anything that has to do with kde, i dont like it that much :) |
| 23:00.36 | TheHobbit | gonna slip.... |
| 23:00.40 | TheHobbit | sleep |
| 23:01.16 | douglas | i think it's xdm, whatever that is |
| 23:01.19 | douglas | it's not gdm |
| 23:01.36 | douglas | damnit |
| 23:01.43 | douglas | not that either.. i'll reboot |
| 23:01.46 | dli | douglas, /etc/init.d/xdm stop & |
| 23:01.54 | FieldySnuts | xdm just runs whatever you have configured in rc.conf |
| 23:01.55 | douglas | & what? |
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| 23:02.22 | FieldySnuts | Install mozilla-1.7.11 into /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-1.7.11/image/ category www-client wee |
| 23:02.32 | douglas | Hey -- no big whoop, i'll reboot.. it's just that thing, you know, where debian users want to avoid screwing up their uptime at all costs |
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| 23:03.01 | dli | douglas, no need to reboot |
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| 23:03.08 | black_Nightmare | hey there |
| 23:03.08 | DoppelGanger | seriously |
| 23:03.39 | douglas | i did a ps -aux|grep dm and saw xdm .. |
| 23:03.53 | black_Nightmare | any of you know if theres a way to see a table of what res/etc your card could do? |
| 23:04.06 | guiss | is there someway to change debian init procces in order to make it look like redhat, gentoo or ubuntu init? |
| 23:04.50 | douglas | guiss: probably but debian doesn't make it really easy for you |
| 23:05.04 | Wyzard | guiss: You mean the "[ ok ]" things? |
| 23:05.13 | douglas | easier to config kernels on installs than x windows |
| 23:06.23 | cbr | does prelinking work in debian? |
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| 23:06.40 | guiss | Wyzard, yes, the ok things |
| 23:06.43 | Wyzard | guiss: There's some work underway to convert some of the initscripts to use the LSB functions, which provide that "look"... but the LSB functions have some limitations which makes them unsuitable for some initscripts |
| 23:06.56 | Wyzard | cbr: apt-get install prelink |
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| 23:07.12 | cbr | Wyzard: but it works? |
| 23:07.46 | Wyzard | cbr: It wouldn't be in a release if it didn't work |
| 23:08.07 | cbr | Wyzard: do i have to do something special while using prelink and kde? |
| 23:08.07 | s_ward | cbr, I have it installed, and I haven't had any problems |
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| 23:08.18 | cbr | s_ward: how often do you run it |
| 23:08.34 | Wyzard | cbr: No different than you'd do with any other distro, I'd think |
| 23:08.56 | cbr | Wyzard: on gentoo i remember there was some KDE_IS_PRELINKED variable or smth |
| 23:09.00 | Wyzard | cbr: I don't use prelinking myself since it's incompatible with debsums (and I don't use KDE so I don't suffer from its long dynamic-link times) |
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| 23:10.06 | Wyzard | cbr: No idea what that USE flag would be for... prelinking isn't supposed to affect the way programs run or anything |
| 23:10.27 | cbr | Wyzard: it wasnt an USE flag, it was an environment variable |
| 23:11.05 | s_ward | cbr, it's only run when I update something like OO.o |
| 23:11.07 | Wyzard | cbr: Well, at any rate, I don't know what it does and I can't think of any reason why it would be necessary |
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| 23:11.15 | Wyzard | cbr: It probably just controls some convenience feature |
| 23:11.18 | s_ward | cbr, I haven't enabled regular prelinking |
| 23:11.31 | cbr | s_ward: what do you mean? |
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| 23:13.27 | s_ward | cbr, IIRC prelink is run by the openoffice.org install; there's also a cron script to run prelink daily, but it is only enabled if you change a variable in /etc/default/prelink |
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| 23:13.35 | dak | really wish kde would get fixed |
| 23:13.40 | Wyzard | cbr: According to Google, KDE_IS_PRELINKED "disables kdeinit"... I guess it means that KDE programs load themselves directly rather than using whatever mechanism kdeinit has to try to mitigate the link problem |
| 23:13.45 | Echizen | what file do i edit to change from dhcp to static ip? |
| 23:13.52 | Wyzard | Echizen: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:14.11 | Echizen | you know the syntax? |
| 23:14.20 | Wyzard | Echizen: man interfaces |
| 23:15.30 | cougar` | Hey all |
| 23:15.39 | cougar` | Hey Wyzard |
| 23:15.54 | Wyzard | hi |
| 23:16.51 | cougar` | Wyzard : Help me accept or not log these requests PLZ! Bro, I think it is causing network congestion |
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| 23:17.20 | Wyzard | cougar`: Logging or not logging packets has no effect on network congestion |
| 23:17.23 | cougar` | When I'm using TeamSpeak on another machine, if I talk in long sentences, my voice is broken up |
| 23:17.37 | Wyzard | cougar`: You're receiving the packets (and thus using the bandwidth) whether you log them or not |
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| 23:17.56 | cougar` | Yeah, but the logging might be slowin' down my machine. My machine is not super duper |
| 23:18.04 | Wyzard | cougar`: And a few small packets per second will not make any noticeable difference on a broadband connection |
| 23:18.15 | Wyzard | cougar`: Unless it's a 386 or something, it really doesn't matter |
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| 23:19.35 | cougar` | I'm disagreein' cause I'm lookin' at iptraf and when I'm on TeamSpeak, it's goin' nutz with the network activity, plus the logging of those 10.x address every couple of seconds, that's gotta task the machine or sumthin |
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| 23:20.07 | Exodus | Hello |
| 23:20.09 | Wyzard | cougar`: Well, real-time voice transmission does use lots of bandwidth, so of course you'll see lots of network activity |
| 23:20.19 | EmeraldCat | If both processors on a dual processor motherboard attempt to access a device at the same time, will the computer crash? |
| 23:20.23 | Agrajag- | does anyone know, if you have 2 keyboards connected to a computer (one ps/2 style, one usb), if you can have one for one X server (say, on :0) and another for :1 ? |
| 23:20.23 | Wyzard | cougar`: But writing a few lines to a text file isn't going to affect that |
| 23:20.36 | cougar` | Yeah but Wyzard : All that transmission on top of the constant logging of the 10.x addresses is BS |
| 23:21.08 | Wyzard | cougar`: The transmission is happening regardless, and you're receiving the DHCP packets regardless. The only difference would be whether they get logged. |
| 23:21.14 | Exodus | I have a problem updating my kernel to newer version, my Keyboard doesn't respond after modules load. Anyone know how to fix this prob? |
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| 23:22.23 | Wyzard | Agrajag-: There's a kernel patch called Ruby which allows multiple independent keyboards, so that you can start separate X servers with separate input devices... but I've found that X has issues with failing to properly initialize the video cards when you have two separate instances running at the same time |
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| 23:23.15 | EmeraldCat | or is the motherboard ROM supposed to do contention management? |
| 23:23.52 | Agrajag- | Wyzard: see i'd like to run a separate X on my tv out. when i have 2 keyboards connected at the moment, they both seem to work |
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| 23:24.22 | Wyzard | Agrajag-: Ordinarily when you start X, it disables any other video cards besides the one(s) it's currently using... there's a config option called "SingleCard" which disables that behavior, so theoretically you can run simultaneous independent X servers on different video cards, but I've attempted it with several combinations of different kinds of video cards, and found that the second X instance fails to start properly when the fi |
| 23:24.22 | Wyzard | rst one is already running, and usually hangs the machine |
| 23:25.05 | Agrajag- | ok, but i want to use the same video card, just use the video out for the 2nd X (is this even possible?) |
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| 23:25.31 | Echizen | hey Wyzard, i read that man and did what it said but now when i restart networking it errors on reconfiguring network interfaces "SIOCADDRT: File exists". i searched for that file and didnt find it. any ideas? |
| 23:25.41 | Wyzard | Agrajag-: That's probably not possible at all... only if the two parts of your video card are separately addressable on the PCI bus |
| 23:25.44 | Agrajag- | i've tried using the nvidia twinview and clone options, that works, but i get screwy resolutions and stuff |
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| 23:25.55 | Wyzard | Agrajag-: i.e. if the "normal" video and the TV-out show up as separate devices in "lspci" |
| 23:25.55 | EmeraldCat | or is that the OS's job? (contention management) |
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| 23:26.17 | Agrajag- | ah ok.. no i dont think they do. i'll have a mess around with the twinview stuff then |
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| 23:26.36 | dob1 | there are problem to upgrade gcc ? |
| 23:26.38 | cougar` | Wyzard : Would this work? Plz join #flood |
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| 23:27.43 | EmeraldCat | what is a "kernel NULL dereference exception"? |
| 23:27.49 | Wyzard | Agrajag-: There's a product called "Desktop Multiplier" from a company called "Userful" which provides an alternate solution, using a single X server (so there are no issues with initializing the video card) and a virtualization layer to make it act as multiple independent sessions |
| 23:28.03 | Wyzard | EmeraldCat: a bug in the kernel |
| 23:28.04 | cureless | EmeraldCat: what did you get that on? |
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| 23:28.30 | EmeraldCat | Got it on CPU 1: fsck-ext2 |
| 23:28.34 | Echizen | Wyzard, any ideas? |
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| 23:28.44 | Wyzard | Agrajag-: if your video card's two outputs are separately addressable by a single X instance (which is fairly likely), then that would work for you, but it costs money |
| 23:28.55 | EmeraldCat | Knoppix 3.4 Beta <-- |
| 23:29.01 | cureless | EmeraldCat: can you reproduce it? |
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| 23:29.20 | EmeraldCat | cureless: the exact wording? |
| 23:29.26 | ulitz | what must I do to get the device /dev/video0 to exist? |
| 23:29.26 | cureless | EmeraldCat: you might want to report it to the Knoppix people |
| 23:29.36 | cureless | EmeraldCat: no, the error, can you make it do it again? |
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| 23:29.48 | Wyzard | Echizen: "File exists" is a misleading error message... it sounds like it was trying to add an entry to the routing table, but the entry was already there |
| 23:30.04 | cureless | EmeraldCat: it's a kernel bug, but it might be because of specific knoppix patches, so report it to them first. |
| 23:30.36 | Wyzard | Echizen: Either your network interface is in a confused state, or (more likely) you made some sort of mistake in your interfaces file |
| 23:30.59 | Echizen | hmm.... |
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| 23:31.18 | EmeraldCat | cureless: It happens _every_ time a fsck force check is run on hda1 (Spec: TYAN TOMCAT II dual Pentium MMX motherboard @ 200 MHz) |
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| 23:31.47 | EmeraldCat | if fsck is not run everything goes ok. |
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| 23:32.14 | EmeraldCat | ...but then X Windows hangs. |
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| 23:32.48 | Echizen | may i paste 4 lines? |
| 23:33.11 | purestor1_ | Would anyone here recommend or tell me not to use some "debian hardening" packages for a server? I've read some controversial opinions on these. |
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| 23:34.02 | Echizen | iface eth0 inet static |
| 23:34.02 | Echizen | address 192.168.1.102 |
| 23:34.02 | Echizen | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 23:34.02 | Echizen | gateway 192.168.1.1 |
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| 23:34.16 | Echizen | anything wrong with that, Wyzard? |
| 23:34.18 | cureless | EmeraldCat: well, the kernel NULL dereference is a kernel error, probably caused by some user space app. Tell them your config and stuff. |
| 23:34.31 | EmeraldCat | Interestingly the same thing happens when "swapper"? is run as well (tho. this is rare -- it happened once, probably a fluke.) |
| 23:34.51 | EmeraldCat | kay. |
| 23:34.59 | cureless | EmeraldCat: kernel problems, tell them about it |
| 23:35.25 | cureless | EmeraldCat: sometimes if you see this on specific hardware it might be acpi related, try to change those settings, report to them. |
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| 23:37.36 | ulitz | I don't have a /dev/video0 device but when I run lsmod I get this showing up.. videodev 9920 0 |
| 23:37.50 | systemadm | how can i see if someone is pinging my server? |
| 23:38.01 | cureless | systemadm: tcpdump |
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| 23:38.11 | EmeraldCat | it could (probably is, now that you mentioned it) ACPI related -- Knoppix complains of an ACPI bug and attempts to set ACPI itself?, but I looked to change the ACPI settings and there is no way to change them using the retarted AMI ROM on the motherboard. |
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| 23:38.41 | cureless | EmeraldCat: dissable them on boot. |
| 23:39.07 | s_ward | purestor1_, by all means, use the hardening packages, but don't take them for granted -- they don't guarantee your box is "secure" |
| 23:40.19 | cureless | this seems to be the quiet time... |
| 23:40.25 | cureless | everybody idling |
| 23:40.29 | ulitz | s_ward: still haven't gotten /dev/video0 up yet.. isn't v4l compiled into debian kernels |
| 23:40.40 | AjLavJo | yeah i know |
| 23:40.49 | s_ward | Echizen, if you ever need to paste more than a few lines, use the paster or #flood: /msg dpkg paster |
| 23:41.12 | s_ward | ulitz, I'd imagine it's compiled as a module |
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| 23:41.30 | ulitz | s_ward: then wouldn't modprobe v4l work? |
| 23:41.31 | AjLavJo | why is that people like to make fun of other people nowdays, what kick do they get out of that_ |
| 23:41.43 | cureless | humor? |
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| 23:42.05 | cureless | I don't see how that has changed "nowdays". |
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| 23:42.13 | AjLavJo | i highly doubt that the people made fnu of find it THAT much fun |
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| 23:42.37 | systemadm | can i do a tcpdump on a ip and specific port? |
| 23:42.51 | dondelelcaro | systemadm: yess. |
| 23:42.51 | cureless | systemadm: yes, read the man page |
| 23:43.02 | AjLavJo | since it is neither helpful or any point of it |
| 23:43.34 | cureless | AjLavJo: you're over simplifying things. |
| 23:43.36 | avrfreak | with apt-get can i upgrade my kde? |
| 23:43.43 | cureless | avrfreak: yes |
| 23:43.57 | AjLavJo | well just made my point |
| 23:44.34 | cureless | ? |
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| 23:45.44 | ulitz | does anyone know how to get /dev/video0 created? |
| 23:45.52 | ulitz | what module must I load? |
| 23:46.00 | AjLavJo | i have a question if i have many locale(?) thats updated can i remove them in any way? since i wont need more then one or two really |
| 23:46.12 | avrfreak | cureless and which is the sintax for the kde? |
| 23:46.27 | dondelelcaro | AjLavJo: see the localepurge package. |
| 23:46.32 | cureless | avrfreak: I think you mean syntax for apt-get (apt-get install kde) |
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| 23:46.54 | purestor1_ | s_ward: Of course, I understand that there are a lot of more things to a secure box than a kernel patch. I'm rather asking for an opinion whether they are really an improvement if you have basically "locked down" things, i.e. deactivated all unneeded services and let run everything but simple HTTP over SSL. |
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| 23:47.11 | AjLavJo | and in other words, how do i do that? dpkg -l ? |
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| 23:47.46 | s_ward | purestor1_, they are merely an aid to that, if you are confident you have done that, then you don't need the harden packages |
| 23:47.47 | cureless | ulitz: have you tried hotplug? does it not load the driver you want? |
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| 23:48.12 | cureless | ulitz: otherwise look at /lib/modules/xxx/kernel/drivers/media/video, maybe one of them will work for you. |
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| 23:48.40 | cureless | ulitz: a lot of cards use the bttv driver IIRC. |
| 23:48.44 | Anders | can someone tell me about a shell tool for dumping the contents of a CD to an iso |
| 23:48.50 | d_ | libncurses5-dev is already the newest version. |
| 23:48.50 | d_ | diablo:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8# make menuconfig |
| 23:48.50 | d_ | make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 23:48.54 | cureless | Anders: dd |
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| 23:49.05 | herbi | anyone here using an ipod shuffle? |
| 23:49.08 | d_ | weird? |
| 23:49.10 | Anders | dd if=/dev/zero of=file.iso ? |
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| 23:49.16 | Anders | er |
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| 23:49.17 | herbi | i cant seem to get mine fully operational under debian |
| 23:49.20 | ulitz | cureless: yeah.. just trying to get the device created.. someone mentioned that I needed to load v4l and I have since tried.. can't find on google |
| 23:49.22 | Anders | /dev/cdrom |
| 23:49.29 | cureless | Anders: probably /dev/cdrom better than /dev/zero :-) |
| 23:49.34 | s_ward | ulitz, there is no v4l in _my_ kenrel (which is 2.6.12-1-k7), just v4l2-common, v4l1-compat, and plenty of device specific modules |
| 23:49.36 | herbi | nobody? |
| 23:49.37 | dondelelcaro | d_: uh, if htere's no rule to make menuconfig, you're not building in a kernel source directory. |
| 23:49.48 | kreg | anyway to test if my motherboard memory is running in dual channel or not? |
| 23:49.59 | cureless | ulitz: search for your card, not v4l (though it is a v4l thing) |
| 23:50.07 | s_ward | ulitz, did the instructions for Debian on the ivtv wiki work? If not, what went wrong? |
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| 23:51.26 | ulitz | s_ward: I get to this.. and then it fails |
| 23:51.28 | ulitz | module-assistant auto-build ivtv-unstable |
| 23:52.06 | s_ward | ulitz, do you have a kernel-headers package installed? |
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| 23:52.43 | ulitz | thought I did |
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| 23:53.14 | ulitz | got to reboot into other kernel.. be right back |
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| 23:54.19 | d_ | i cant figure this out: how do I check to see if my PCI raid card was loaded by the kernel? |
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| 23:55.32 | felesh | buenas |
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| 23:55.43 | felesh | el driver de nvidia me falla cuando pongo el Load "glx" |
| 23:55.47 | felesh | alguien sabe pq? |
| 23:55.53 | FieldySnuts | !sp |
| 23:55.56 | gravity | !es |
| 23:55.56 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:56.01 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 23:56.21 | kitty-kun | um... what's the package name for kde? |
| 23:56.30 | gravity | kitty-kun: aptitude install kde |
| 23:56.37 | kitty-kun | ok |
| 23:56.47 | felesh | sorry :) |
| 23:56.53 | s_ward | !tell kitty-kun about search |
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| 23:57.13 | MrBallZ | hi, im installing debian Sarge , to a pentium 4 3.2 with HT , wich kernel image should i use , 2.8 686 with SMP or without SMP ??? |
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| 23:57.32 | Maliuta | is it a multi-proccessor machine? |
| 23:57.32 | exobyte | How can I watch what goes to and from a serial port? |
| 23:57.40 | ulitz | s_ward: did a apt-cache search and didn't find the headers.. think I have them though |
| 23:57.41 | FieldySnuts | 2.8? |
| 23:57.54 | ulitz | 2.10 |
| 23:57.57 | MrBallZ | Maliuta, no , only 1 cpu |
| 23:58.08 | ulitz | 2.6.10.. sorry |
| 23:58.09 | Maliuta | MrBallZ: theres your answer then |
| 23:58.15 | FieldySnuts | HT, |
| 23:58.26 | s_ward | ulitz, they should be in /usr/src/ |
| 23:58.39 | ulitz | s_ward: got it |
| 23:58.47 | d_ | s_ward: sorry to bug yah, but how do I tell if I module is loaded in my kernel? |
| 23:58.56 | gravity | lsmod |
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| 23:59.08 | s_ward | d_, ask the channel -- lsmod |
| 23:59.22 | gravity | combine it with grep for a fearful duo |
| 23:59.22 | MrBallZ | Maliuta: , so no smp then ? |
| 23:59.43 | Exodus | I have a problem updating my kernel to newer version, my Keyboard doesn't respond after kernel modules are loading. Anyone know how to fix this prob? |
| 23:59.56 | Maliuta | MrBallZ: no |
