| 00:00.02 | Randall64 | lower expectations? |
| 00:00.17 | AjLavJo | experiance |
| 00:00.56 | jetx | more like " omg finally it's not yet another clubie oh thank god i don't have to deal with another idiot!" |
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| 00:01.41 | Randall64 | Hey, it is awful quiet in here. |
| 00:01.56 | s_ward | We're holding our breath with you |
| 00:01.57 | jetx | it gets that way when i have a question, too |
| 00:02.08 | jetx | 'nobody knows' |
| 00:02.36 | ke6isf | Randall64: Actually, it's the sound of 1s and 0s flying around. |
| 00:02.59 | Randall64 | hey, it powered off |
| 00:03.17 | Randall64 | I can't remember what acpi being on used to break on this crappy peecee. |
| 00:03.26 | Randall64 | ah well, I'm sure I'll find out soon |
| 00:03.47 | s_ward | I'm sure we will too |
| 00:04.01 | ke6isf | We all will find out, sooner or later. In the Twilight Zone. |
| 00:04.08 | Randall64 | not with off you won't |
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| 00:05.17 | Randall64 | Now I just have to find a new case for $idle_athlon64_htpc that is bearable in my entertainment center. |
| 00:05.27 | Randall64 | Anyone have a recommendation? |
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| 00:05.39 | bluefox | wow, can't install apt-file |
| 00:06.00 | bluefox | probably need to wait a few days and try again |
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| 00:06.20 | mtnman | q |
| 00:06.29 | Randall64 | p |
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| 00:09.02 | jetx | bluefox: libapt-pkg-perl: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.9 but it is not installable |
| 00:09.05 | jetx | that's why |
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| 00:09.14 | bluefox | i know |
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| 00:09.31 | Borg^Queen | So who was saying there's a hotplug fix coming? |
| 00:09.53 | jetx | i know the fix: apt-get remove --purge hotplug* discover* |
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| 00:10.59 | Borg^Queen | jetx: o_0 bad man |
| 00:11.07 | Tye_ | I can't decide if I should use freetype or xtt. Any suggestions? |
| 00:11.12 | jetx | it's true though |
| 00:11.36 | jetx | xtt imo but you'll need to manually edit XF86Config-4 (as stated when you install it) |
| 00:11.53 | jetx | and change the fontpath to 7110 from 7100 |
| 00:11.55 | jetx | iirc |
| 00:12.09 | Tye_ | Why do you prefer xtt, if I may ask? |
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| 00:12.29 | jetx | neato little font tweaks. you don't need it. |
| 00:12.39 | jetx | freetype works just fine |
| 00:13.09 | Tye_ | Will I have any problems later in time because of the manual editing of XF86Config-4 do you think? |
| 00:13.11 | CaT[tm] | hey folks. what's the name of the uril that'll allow me to install a new debian system 'in-place'? ie whilst the drive is already connected to a pc with a linux OS on it (different drive to the OS drive) |
| 00:13.16 | jetx | !xmd5 |
| 00:13.16 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
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| 00:14.38 | Tye_ | CaT[tm]: debootstrap |
| 00:14.46 | CaT[tm] | woo |
| 00:14.49 | CaT[tm] | thanks. :) |
| 00:15.04 | CaT[tm] | good stuff for when you want to do an install before turning up at the data centre :) |
| 00:15.15 | Tye_ | jetx: How often does the X file need to be edited, unless I do something "special"? |
| 00:15.25 | Tye_ | cat: The data centre? |
| 00:15.44 | CaT[tm] | tye: well from my perspective, the data centre :) |
| 00:15.49 | jetx | Tye_: never, till you change stuff (imo ymmv) |
| 00:16.13 | Tye_ | jetx: Well, it'll be a good learning experience. I'll take your route. Cheers! |
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| 00:17.51 | gnetux | somebody knows how to install java plugin??? |
| 00:17.55 | Tye_ | Do you guys think I should report a spelling mistake in the Debian documentation? |
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| 00:18.47 | Tye_ | gnetux: I did it yesterday, was easy |
| 00:19.10 | gnetux | how |
| 00:19.21 | gnetux | is there an deb package??? |
| 00:19.26 | Borg^Queen | yes |
| 00:19.39 | Tye_ | You could google for blackdown |
| 00:19.52 | Tye_ | That's what I did last night. |
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| 00:22.43 | Tye_ | jetx: I don't see anything in the documentation about changing the fontpath from 7100 |
| 00:23.07 | s_ward | "blackdown kicks ass" (dpkg) :) |
| 00:23.42 | jetx | the install script give you the instructions, Tye_ |
| 00:24.01 | Tye_ | jetx: Then I didn't read carefully enough ... :-( Bad me. |
| 00:24.29 | jetx | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.05 | Tye_ | Lets see if that worked. Brb. Thanks jetx. |
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| 00:26.56 | Tye_ | Uhm. When you exit to GDM, X restarts, doesn't it? |
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| 00:28.33 | Borg^Queen | eeewwww |
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| 00:28.45 | Borg^Queen | S0L1DUS: thanks for sharing... NOT |
| 00:28.52 | Borg^Queen | ooooh netsplit |
| 00:29.31 | S0L1DUS | O_o |
| 00:29.53 | Valen | any hints on where to start looking for how to package initrd-tools from source? there is a bug in the script that tells it what module to use for my scsi card, unfortunatly i am an utter noob and have no idea how to procede |
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| 00:30.23 | Valen | i have it on another debian system, i want to make the .deb file to replace the one on the install CD |
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| 00:30.54 | Borg^Queen | Valen: google for "initrd tools, deb" |
| 00:31.18 | Borg^Queen | Oh to package |
| 00:31.24 | Valen | yeah |
| 00:31.27 | Borg^Queen | apt-get install checkinstall |
| 00:31.35 | jetx | i have a dum question: do i need 3d support in my vid driver to watch a movie? or just for gaming |
| 00:31.37 | Borg^Queen | this will allow you to make deb packages |
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| 00:31.50 | Borg^Queen | jetx: just for gaming |
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| 00:32.04 | jetx | cool thanks |
| 00:32.13 | Borg^Queen | :) |
| 00:32.17 | Borg^Queen | Where's my chocolate? |
| 00:32.25 | jetx | in my peanut butter |
| 00:32.35 | s_ward | jetx, if your gaming is nethack, you won't even need graphics :) |
| 00:32.42 | Valen | Borg^Queen, so that'll use the dsc file or some such? |
| 00:32.53 | Borg^Queen | both |
| 00:32.56 | s_ward | jetx, oh, and mplayer has an aalib output |
| 00:33.01 | Borg^Queen | Its on the cd Valen |
| 00:33.07 | Tye_ | jetx: Can I ask a dumb question too? How do I know which fontserver I'm running? |
| 00:33.29 | jetx | Tye_: you also have to install the font server iirc |
| 00:33.33 | jetx | !find xtt |
| 00:33.34 | rutski89 | TwinView is making windows maximize accross both screens; how do i fix this? |
| 00:33.34 | Talhadar | The documentation at Debian.org lists 32MB of ram as the minimum amount of memory a system must have to run Debian. Is this true? I have a Dell Latitude XPi 100SD with 12MB of memory, am I SOL? I only ask since I keep on getting __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0xf0/0) etc. When booting up, right after "Setting up filesystem..." comes up |
| 00:33.41 | Valen | i am working on another system atm, i cant get my main one to boot (the scsi driver fails) |
| 00:33.44 | Borg^Queen | I have tons of dumb questions, when can I start asking? |
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| 00:33.51 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'xtt' (6 of 49): (/usr/bin/xttitle) in x11/xttitle ;; (/usr/lib/cups/filter/texttops) in net/cupsys ;; (/usr/include/AL/alexttypes.h) in libdevel/libopenal-dev ;; (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libxtt.a) in x11/xserver-xfree86 ;; (/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/tk/texttag.rb) in interpreters/libtcltk-ruby1.8 ;; (/usr/lib/ruby/1.9/tk/texttag.rb) in interpreters/libtcltk-ruby1.9. |
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| 00:34.05 | s_ward | Borg^Queen, after you have read documentation :) |
| 00:34.10 | Valen | Borg^Queen, if you dont sombody else will ;-P |
| 00:34.17 | Borg^Queen | s_ward: damnit |
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| 00:34.33 | Borg^Queen | Valen: from the band or B5? |
| 00:34.44 | bluefox | just start asking Borg^Queen |
| 00:34.53 | Valen | B5 of course ;-> |
| 00:34.57 | bluefox | they'll either ignore you or send you to manuals :p |
| 00:34.59 | Tye_ | jetx: Hm, seems xtt isn't installed here. Shouldn't X have complained? Or did it just fallback gracefully? |
| 00:35.00 | Borg^Queen | bluefox: I was kidding but thanks |
| 00:35.10 | Borg^Queen | manuals I can always use |
| 00:35.12 | Valen | B5 > ST teheheheh |
| 00:35.20 | jetx | tye it's designed to fallback gracefully.... (looking for the package name) |
| 00:35.27 | Tye_ | Neat! |
| 00:35.29 | Borg^Queen | Valen: LOL |
| 00:35.42 | jetx | !info xfs-xtt |
| 00:35.49 | dpkg | xfs-xtt: (X-TrueType font server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:1.4.1.xf430-5 (sid), Packaged size: 1155 kB, Installed size: 2244 kB |
| 00:36.24 | jetx | sg1>b5 |
| 00:36.28 | Tye_ | jetx: And here came the documentation you were talking about, that talks about 7110! |
| 00:36.35 | jetx | ahh |
| 00:36.43 | jetx | i forgot the exact details :/ |
| 00:37.02 | Valen | problem is in the source package theres nothing to make |
| 00:37.03 | Tye_ | Logging out to GDM and then back in restarts X, right? |
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| 00:37.14 | Valen | theres not even a .c file that i can |
| 00:37.16 | jetx | no Tye_ |
| 00:37.27 | jetx | /etc/init.d/?dm restart as root |
| 00:37.28 | Valen | compile lol |
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| 00:38.51 | s_ward | jetx, I thought it did, oh well, something I'll have to investigate some other time, if I ever logout (tend to just lock the screen) |
| 00:39.29 | Tye_ | Let's see what happens when I'm logged in and restart GDM. |
| 00:39.36 | jetx | heh |
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| 00:39.59 | Valen | whats this "mystery word" thing? |
| 00:40.04 | mhall | What's wrong with this command? It always downloads firefox from experimental instead of stable. sudo apt-get -t stable install --reinstall mozilla-firefox |
| 00:40.29 | poonj | hey guys.. |
| 00:40.41 | poonj | I'm trying to print out a text file, but then it gets cut off |
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| 00:40.59 | mhall | What's wrong with this command? It always downloads firefox from experimental instead of stable. sudo apt-get -t stable install --reinstall mozilla-firefox |
| 00:41.00 | Tye_ | Odd, GDM didn't start it seemed like. So I logged in as root and started it myself. That worked. |
| 00:41.01 | poonj | using lpr that is....what do I have to do to get it to auto wrap |
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| 00:41.25 | mhall | BTW sorry for repeat if that's repeated. ISP is broken. |
| 00:42.00 | mhall | Tye_: apt-get install --reinstall should fix your init scripts |
| 00:42.23 | mhall | can anybody read this? |
| 00:42.27 | jetx | mhall: same if you change stable to sarge? |
| 00:42.31 | neuonyx | i cant |
| 00:42.32 | neuonyx | haha |
| 00:42.36 | mhall | jetx: ok let me try |
| 00:42.40 | mhall | neuonyx: hehe |
| 00:42.49 | jetx | mhall: jsut a thought, no idea if it might help |
| 00:42.52 | mhall | neuonyx: i wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't |
| 00:43.34 | jetx | Tye_: you do the /etc/init.d/?dm restart AS root |
| 00:43.38 | mhall | quiet in here |
| 00:43.42 | mhall | makes me suspicious |
| 00:43.48 | Tye_ | jetx: I did it, with sudo, when logged in. |
| 00:43.53 | jetx | it's sunday the funday |
| 00:44.14 | mhall | jetx: no it's not happening |
| 00:44.27 | mhall | jetx: not for me, i ate some undercooked meat and drank a lot yesterday |
| 00:44.28 | jetx | ah well another theory blown |
| 00:44.33 | mhall | jetx: so my body is rebelling |
| 00:44.38 | yoo | Good night all ! |
| 00:44.46 | jetx | yoo say hi to hoo |
| 00:44.47 | Borg^Queen | GN |
| 00:44.49 | mhall | i still have not eaten anything because my stomach is unstable |
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| 00:44.58 | Borg^Queen | aaww |
| 00:45.05 | mhall | and i have a horribly busy week coming up |
| 00:45.10 | nvz | I guess you will have to reinstall :P |
| 00:45.19 | mhall | have to leave my job and go back to school |
| 00:45.19 | jetx | pepto-bismol |
| 00:45.33 | mhall | jetx: yeah that's what i'm thinking |
| 00:45.37 | Tye_ | mhall: My stomach was unstable after a trip to Mexico, but I'd say it's down to sarge now. |
| 00:45.45 | yoo | jetx : what "hoo" does it mean ? |
| 00:45.47 | mhall | but up to now i had not been hungry yet anyhow so it was not a big issue |
| 00:45.57 | yoo | i don't find it in my dictionnary |
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| 00:47.23 | mhall | Tye_: lol! |
| 00:47.39 | mhall | Tye_: mine's experimental |
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| 00:47.54 | mhall | Tye_: and segfaulting regularly, despite a core dump yesterday |
| 00:48.02 | nvz | eww |
| 00:48.10 | mhall | Tye_: i don't have a GDB build for it either |
| 00:48.25 | mhall | so i can't install a cleanup handler |
| 00:48.47 | Tye_ | I took a memdump of mine and sent it to a lab. Maybe they found the bug, I get the results back tomorrow. |
| 00:48.48 | yoo | jetx : you sleep ? :) |
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| 00:49.20 | jetx | yoo: sometimes |
| 00:49.20 | mhall | Tye_: hopefully they don't come back with a kludgy patch |
| 00:49.34 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro, you here? |
| 00:49.36 | Tye_ | mhall: The doctor said it's either a bug or a virus. |
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| 00:49.49 | mhall | !poke dondelelcaro |
| 00:49.54 | jetx | yoo: yoohoo is an american slang for saying 'hi' |
| 00:49.58 | astronut | anyone have an iRiver H10 mp3 player? |
| 00:49.59 | yoo | :) |
| 00:50.10 | jetx | or more like hey you maybe |
| 00:50.10 | mhall | Tye_: f0ck |
| 00:50.15 | SerajewelKS | jetx, it also sounds gay |
| 00:50.16 | mhall | Tye_: that's typical Mexico |
| 00:50.18 | yoo | oki |
| 00:50.26 | yoo | i understand jetx |
| 00:50.32 | jetx | SerajewelKS: only real men can comfortably use it, true |
| 00:50.51 | jetx | and women |
| 00:51.13 | yoo | so you are american boy jetx |
| 00:51.34 | SerajewelKS | yoo, 80% of the people here are teenage american boys |
| 00:51.36 | mhall | i'm more of the type that would say 'yo' or 'what's up?' |
| 00:51.38 | yoo | i'm french |
| 00:51.49 | yoo | ok |
| 00:51.51 | mhall | yoo: how did you get your IP to reverse into dyndns.org? |
| 00:51.51 | Borg^Queen | boys |
| 00:51.56 | jetx | yoo: yeah i'm a 44 year old boy |
| 00:52.05 | jetx | true story |
| 00:52.07 | yoo | i'm 28 |
| 00:52.08 | SerajewelKS | mhall, maybe that's his domain... |
| 00:52.11 | Borg^Queen | 44, in female years = 14 |
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| 00:52.20 | SerajewelKS | mhall, looks like a dynamic dns service, so he probably owns the "yoo" subdomain |
| 00:52.39 | yoo | mhall : i configure a reverse DNS on free ISP |
| 00:52.40 | astronut | SerajewelKS: doesn't matter |
| 00:52.49 | astronut | SerajewelKS: he has to have control over his ISP's dns |
| 00:52.52 | jetx | Borg^Queen: more like 22-28 for me :) |
| 00:52.55 | astronut | yoo: what ISP? |
| 00:52.56 | yoo | you know free (the provider) |
| 00:53.03 | mhall | most ISPs won't let you get a reverse |
| 00:53.07 | mhall | that's pretty sweet |
| 00:53.12 | yoo | free is a européen provider |
| 00:53.18 | Borg^Queen | jetx: men aren't allowed to set the conversion standards |
| 00:53.21 | SerajewelKS | yoo, free.fr? |
| 00:53.24 | astronut | yoo: ah, didn't know em |
| 00:53.25 | yoo | YES |
| 00:53.25 | Tye_ | free.fr, that brings back memories |
| 00:53.35 | yoo | free.fr |
| 00:53.39 | yoo | :) |
| 00:54.02 | yoo | the reverse DNS is free with this provider |
| 00:54.05 | mhall | are there any Unicode-safe IRC text clients? |
| 00:54.08 | yoo | so i configure it |
| 00:54.14 | zinx | mhall: irssi, i think |
| 00:54.16 | SerajewelKS | mhall, xchat i think |
| 00:54.31 | mhall | Yeah irssi is giving me some mojibake. |
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| 00:54.39 | Borg^Queen | later boys thanks for the help |
| 00:54.41 | zinx | mojibake? o_O |
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| 00:54.43 | mhall | To borrow the great Japanese term... |
| 00:54.44 | Borg^Queen | s_ward: thanks |
| 00:54.45 | astronut | mhall: irssi |
| 00:54.46 | jetx | you can type something in xchat to make it use utf-8 |
| 00:54.51 | astronut | for text |
| 00:54.52 | jetx | i forget what though :/ |
| 00:54.53 | astronut | xchat for gui |
| 00:54.57 | s_ward | Borg^Queen, no problem |
| 00:55.01 | Borg^Queen | :) |
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| 00:56.24 | mhall | zinx: mojibake, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojibake |
| 00:56.28 | UnKnowN_ | What is signal 11? |
| 00:56.30 | mhall | zinx: it's a good term |
| 00:56.44 | UnKnowN_ | ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (4) |
| 00:56.44 | UnKnowN_ | Initializing OpenGL display |
| 00:56.44 | UnKnowN_ | ...setting mode 3: 640 480 |
| 00:56.44 | UnKnowN_ | Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 |
| 00:56.44 | UnKnowN_ | XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized |
| 00:56.44 | UnKnowN_ | XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480 |
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| 00:56.54 | UnKnowN_ | opps |
| 00:57.01 | UnKnowN_ | meant to paste one line |
| 00:57.23 | s_ward | why do you do it? You could have always used paster |
| 00:57.24 | UnKnowN_ | say Recieved signal 11 exiting after that |
| 00:57.33 | Tye_ | I have a hard drive in my server that's rapidly dying (took three weeks of music for me). I'd like to unmount it, but it won't let me, says it's busy. And -f doesn't help. |
| 00:57.50 | Valen | shoot it |
| 00:58.09 | mhall | UnKnowN_: man 7 signal |
| 00:58.23 | UnKnowN_ | how do i fix it?! |
| 00:58.46 | Tye_ | Uh-oh. umount -f requires kernel 2.1.116! Maybe my kernel isn't new enough! |
| 00:58.47 | mhall | UnKnowN_: ok look in /var/log for your X log |
| 00:58.54 | mhall | UnKnowN_: then grep for (EE) to start |
| 00:59.07 | mhall | Tye_: lol, try the lsof command |
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| 00:59.18 | mhall | Tye_: and see if you can see what is accessing the drive |
| 00:59.36 | UnKnowN_ | thats a lot of work :S |
| 01:00.04 | CrocoJet | I am using gnome and other computer with win 98 .. I dont have samba installed .. how my linux is seeing other computer ? |
| 01:00.23 | UnKnowN_ | typed greb EE |
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| 01:00.55 | mhall | fuck Comcast |
| 01:01.01 | Tye_ | Ugh. That ain't a pretty command. At least not to my eyes. I'm RTFM:ing no. |
| 01:01.01 | mhall | bastards |
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| 01:01.26 | UnKnowN_ | did i do it right? |
| 01:01.29 | mhall | Tye_: oh grep the lsof output for the mount directory of the drive |
| 01:01.35 | mhall | Tye_: that will cut down some |
| 01:01.37 | Tye_ | mhall: Didn't get anything |
| 01:01.37 | SimonRaven | tell me about it, they won't do fuck all for spam coming off their network |
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| 01:01.52 | UnKnowN_ | just tell me what to type Im a n00b |
| 01:02.00 | pureone | alot of isps wont |
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| 01:02.01 | UnKnowN_ | I just started last week :S |
| 01:02.09 | UnKnowN_ | well started using linux |
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| 01:02.41 | ice_1963 | i have had it with this hp printer |
| 01:02.55 | mhall | Tye_: ! that is real odd |
| 01:02.57 | Tye_ | mhall: If I don't get anything when greping after the mount point, does that mean that no file is open from the disk? |
| 01:03.23 | Tye_ | mhall: I find it quite odd that it ate my whole music collection. It's also a bit odd that I will have to rip >300 CDs again. |
| 01:03.24 | mhall | Tye_: it should, from my experience with killing off processes to unmount stuff |
| 01:03.30 | mhall | Tye_: what FS? |
| 01:03.37 | Tye_ | No wait, the word isn't odd, it's damn irritating. FS is ext3. |
| 01:03.46 | mhall | Tye_: maybe there is a God and (s)he takes orders from RIAA |
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| 01:04.01 | Tye_ | It's my own friggin' CDs most of them. I paid for them. |
| 01:04.12 | mhall | Tye_: ext3 would not generally do that. i'm also surprised |
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| 01:04.30 | mhall | Tye_: perhaps the drive's demise came a bit sooner than you thought, and IDE ran out of spare sectors |
| 01:04.46 | mhall | Tye_: and also, i'm kidding about RIAA |
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| 01:04.55 | mhall | but probably a bad time for a joke ;-) |
| 01:05.04 | ice_1963 | RIAA ok :0)- |
| 01:05.43 | Tye_ | Maybe I did something wrong. The drive was unmounted. Then I fscked it. It came upon a billion errors, complaining about a bad area (I think). I said Y to all the question. |
| 01:06.08 | Tye_ | Now the server beeps every ten minutes or so. I think it's related to the disk. |
| 01:06.35 | jetx | Tye_: i did that once. the drive was being mis-reported. i trashed all the data. |
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| 01:07.10 | jetx | Tye_: low level format fixed it |
| 01:07.12 | jetx | hth |
| 01:07.22 | mhall | Tye_: oh no wonder |
| 01:07.23 | Tye_ | What do you mean by mis-reported jetx? |
| 01:07.34 | Tye_ | Damnit. It didn't have to happen, I guess. |
| 01:07.37 | mhall | Tye_: when you hit yes to fsck some of the Y actions will kill the data |
| 01:07.52 | Tye_ | mhall: And there's a way that doesn't kill the data? |
| 01:07.59 | jetx | Tye_: i'm not exactly sure, but it was either like the fs or the goemetry |
| 01:08.03 | mhall | Tye_: your best bet is when you have issues, get as much out as you can by using Knoppix and mounting as ext2 |
| 01:08.05 | jetx | it was a while ago |
| 01:08.28 | Tye_ | jetx: I don't think this is the issue now, since it's been running for a few months working fine. |
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| 01:08.44 | mhall | the thing is, UN*X FSes screw up so rarely, and they assume users have backups |
| 01:08.50 | TNKS | hi all. I noticed that aptitude has some "keep" and "hold" options for packages. How does this work/compare with apt-pinning? If I mark a package as "keep" does that stick after the upgrade? |
| 01:08.51 | Tye_ | mhall: Then I know for next time ... Anyway, I will put up a server with another big disk at our country house, and rsync every night. |
| 01:08.52 | UnKnowN_ | what do i type mhall?! |
| 01:08.59 | mhall | so they do not try to make rescue disks |
| 01:09.07 | mhall | or rescue software |
| 01:09.16 | twirl83 | I configured fetchmail with 2 pop accounts. I want to filter all mail coming from the first account to mailbox1, and all mail coming from the second to mailbox2.. how can this be done ? |
| 01:09.23 | ke6isf | Reminds me, I have to alter my backup processes on my server. |
| 01:09.27 | mhall | because they figure, this is for enterprises purposes, everybody has a tape backup |
| 01:09.38 | Valen | any suggestions for a windows iso editor? |
| 01:09.39 | Tye_ | And nobody's a poor student. |
| 01:09.50 | Valen | need to change initrd in the installer image |
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| 01:09.54 | ke6isf | Valen: In #debian? |
| 01:10.07 | mhall | twirl83: people tell me editing those files is hard |
| 01:10.14 | Tye_ | mhall: Do you think there's a way to get it back? |
| 01:10.14 | Valen | its a debian installl cd |
| 01:10.18 | mhall | twirl83: i never really made too many of em |
| 01:10.35 | Valen | theres a bug in mkinitrd |
| 01:10.36 | mhall | twirl83: if you can code, i'd try looking through the source to see what's supported in the config file reader |
| 01:10.45 | twirl83 | mhall: I wrot .muttrc, .fetchmailrc, .procmailrc, they still need tweaking |
| 01:10.56 | mhall | Tye_: unlikely |
| 01:11.05 | mhall | Tye_: but try mounting at ext2 in knoppix |
| 01:11.13 | mhall | Tye_: and see if you can copy anything out |
| 01:11.27 | mhall | Tye_: also, mount in the RO mode |
| 01:11.41 | Tye_ | Will try that mhall, thanks. I'm never putting anything worth anything on that disk agian. |
| 01:11.55 | pepsi | has anyone here used a Keyspan USB-serial adapter with linux? |
| 01:13.05 | mhall | Tye_: yeah maybe use it for compiling crap |
| 01:13.17 | mhall | Tye_: i have a couple of 'compile crap' disks around |
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| 01:13.38 | ice_1963 | has anyone install a printer in sarge yet ????? |
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| 01:14.03 | Tye_ | ice_1963: We have printers you access from sarge at my university ... |
| 01:14.07 | jetx | no there are no printers |
| 01:14.17 | RogueDopple | ha ha |
| 01:14.22 | Tye_ | Sorry, my bad. The printers will be included in etch. |
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| 01:14.41 | RogueDopple | damn it i will have to wait for etch, whyyyy? |
| 01:14.52 | mhall | hmm |
| 01:14.56 | mhall | can anybody see this? |
| 01:15.00 | mhall | ISP is being weird |
| 01:15.06 | Tye_ | mhall: He's not logged on |
| 01:15.14 | Tye_ | * anybody :No such nick/channel |
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| 01:15.45 | bloom | mhall: ISP isn't logged on either, so I doubt he's being wierd |
| 01:15.45 | ice_1963 | tye i can't get this hp Deskjet 3745 to install |
| 01:15.48 | mhall | Tye_: lol |
| 01:16.08 | mhall | bloom: I'm gonna log on to him and fsck his devices. |
| 01:16.29 | Tye_ | Wow, that's a cheap printer. $39. I'm sure the black ink costs more. |
| 01:17.05 | mhall | Tye_: I get foreign cheapo cartridges since I usually just print crap anyhow. |
| 01:17.19 | mhall | I can order a full load of all 4 colors + black for maybe 10-12 bux. |
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| 01:17.20 | Tye_ | ice_1963: Sorry, can't help you. Never installed a printer in Linux, much less a USB version. |
| 01:17.29 | mhall | And I get random free peripherals when I order |
| 01:17.46 | Tye_ | Free! What kind of peripherals? USB mug warmer? |
| 01:18.06 | mhall | like, optical mice |
| 01:18.16 | Tye_ | For $12? |
| 01:18.19 | mhall | and other random gadgets |
| 01:18.27 | covux | ice_1963: what do youve tried to install the printer? |
| 01:18.30 | mhall | Tye_: my mom is an artist so we order a lot of em at a time |
| 01:18.41 | Tye_ | mhall: Ah, that explains it (I think). |
| 01:18.43 | mhall | Tye_: they cost about 12 bux per load, all put together |
| 01:18.51 | mhall | Tye_: we order in batches of 5 loads or so |
| 01:18.53 | oKtosiTe | I've never heard anyone call an optical mouse a gadget before. |
| 01:19.05 | mhall | oKtosiTe: well that's not the only thing i get |
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| 01:19.09 | ice_1963 | i have a hp photosmart printer thri to get a Driver for that not a linux Box |
| 01:19.13 | Tye_ | "The Olive Symphony, a Linux-powered hi-fi wi-fi stereo hub" Lol, hi-fi wi-fi. Sorry, I need to sleep. |
| 01:19.15 | mhall | oKtosiTe: once i got a lighted pen for writing in the dark |
| 01:19.29 | mhall | maybe a mouse pad once |
| 01:19.30 | mhall | etc. |
| 01:19.41 | Tye_ | mhall: Gimme URL. |
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| 01:20.03 | mhall | i always have had good luck with Epson C series |
| 01:20.11 | mhall | along with GIMP print and CUPS |
| 01:20.20 | mhall | Tye_: let me get it |
| 01:20.27 | Tye_ | You may. |
| 01:20.58 | cddesjar | hi, i just used synaptic to upgrade some packages...it all went smoothly except when it opened up the terminal, the fonts were all symbols and not an appropriate and readable font type |
| 01:21.01 | Tye_ | ice_1963: Is your problem that you don't have a driver for your HP printer? Have you looked at stuff like CUPS, or does that seem foreign to you? |
| 01:21.13 | cddesjar | how do i change this? |
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| 01:21.49 | Tye_ | cddesjar: Do you mean the terminal, as in ctrl+alt+f1, or a virtual terminal? (sorry, my terminology is naff) |
| 01:21.58 | ice_1963 | can't get a Driver at all |
| 01:22.21 | mhall | shimano55: a cyclist i presume? |
| 01:22.38 | cddesjar | hmm...synaptic opened a "terminal" on it's own and it asked me whether or not I wanted to install a package that had a bug report (i only know this from running this in aptitude in the terminal earlier) |
| 01:22.45 | Tye_ | /nick ShimanoXTR |
| 01:22.48 | shimano55 | whall, you presume correctly |
| 01:23.16 | Tye_ | cddesjar: Do you know which package that was? |
| 01:23.21 | covux | ice_1963: so you tried cups + foomatic-filters allready? |
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| 01:23.34 | cddesjar | python and some lib packages i think |
| 01:23.40 | ice_1963 | yes i have |
| 01:24.13 | Tye_ | Should I read about the Common UNIX Printing System, or look at Pimp Cups - personalized! ? |
| 01:24.20 | shimano55 | whall, I ride a Giant OCR3 with Shimano Ulta components |
| 01:25.00 | shimano55 | ohh. mhall..got it |
| 01:25.01 | nvz | sounds dirty when you say it like that |
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| 01:25.13 | shimano55 | mhall, I ride a Giant OCR3 with Shimano Ulta components |
| 01:25.22 | shimano55 | sorry...m looked like a w |
| 01:25.35 | shimano55 | nvz, funny...very funny man ;) |
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| 01:25.45 | nvz | shimano55: does your ass hurt? |
| 01:25.46 | nvz | heh |
| 01:27.06 | mhall | Tye_: http://www.ink4inkjets.com/ |
| 01:27.12 | nvz | !yinzersmite shimano55 |
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| 01:27.30 | mhall | Tye_: as long as you don't have to have the absolute best print quality, their stuff works great for me |
| 01:27.31 | Tye_ | I've a question. Alt+b in the terminal used to take me back one word, now it produces an â |
| 01:27.44 | Tye_ | Will check it out, "whall" |
| 01:27.46 | Horstderschwulea | Hello gus |
| 01:27.52 | mhall | Tye_: you can fix that by changing your inputrc |
| 01:27.56 | shimano55 | nvz, heheh, I gotta learn all those commands...very useful I see... |
| 01:28.00 | Horstderschwulea | Sorry hello gays |
| 01:28.19 | ke6isf | Horstderschwulea: You're on a roll tonight. |
| 01:28.26 | mhall | Tye_: we've been using it the better part of a year or more with no issues |
| 01:28.27 | Horstderschwulea | Yes |
| 01:28.42 | bluefox | shimano55, a company named shimano makes some of the best fishing reels you can get |
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| 01:28.53 | Tye_ | mhall: Thanks for the inputrc tip. Is there's a Debian way to do it, or do I just vi it? |
| 01:28.58 | nvz | shimano55: yeah yinzersmite is my smite. its for people who talk like pittsburghese ig'nent yinzers from Picksburgh |
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| 01:29.13 | mhall | nvz: Get outta hee' yah schmendrick! |
| 01:29.24 | nvz | !yinzersmite mhall |
| 01:29.50 | mhall | Tye_: i just 1337h4x0r1z3d the file with nano |
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| 01:30.05 | ke6isf | And the scary thing is, I can speak yinzer just by reading phonetically. =O.o= |
| 01:30.07 | Tye_ | mhall: You |
| 01:30.08 | cisco | sd |
| 01:30.16 | Horstderschwulea | What is good about debian? |
| 01:30.17 | Tye_ | mhall: You're really 1337 if you use nano. Yuck. |
| 01:30.26 | Tye_ | Horstderschwulea: You can do apt-get moo!!! |
| 01:30.27 | mhall | nvz: what is a yinzer then? something of an urban PA redneck equivalent? |
| 01:30.43 | Horstderschwulea | Yes nona is the biggest shit |
| 01:30.47 | Horstderschwulea | try the vi |
| 01:30.50 | nvz | mhall: http://www.pittsburghese.com/ |
| 01:30.55 | vladster | if you are configuring a base install of gentoo, there is no other choice |
| 01:30.55 | shingouz | Horstderschwulea: and you get the best and friendliest support on this channel ;) |
| 01:31.03 | ke6isf | Horstderschwulea: Aside from package handling, it has the largest number of packages available. |
| 01:31.07 | Tye_ | mhall: Am I stupid if I say that everything expect for two lines in /etc/inputrc is commented out? |
| 01:31.09 | mhall | vladster: It's Gentoo's official editor. |
| 01:31.18 | astronut | !ops Horstderschwulea is a known troll who has struck #suse and #ubuntu already |
| 01:31.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Horstderschwulea is a known troll who has struck #suse and #ubuntu already |
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| 01:31.29 | UdontKnow | astronut: I am looking |
| 01:31.29 | Tye_ | mhall: And Gentoo is definitely 1337 (but pretty nice still) |
| 01:31.30 | shingouz | Horstderschwulea: seriously, the packagehandling is awesome |
| 01:31.37 | Horstderschwulea | But gentoo I think has the same package list or? |
| 01:31.38 | mhall | Tye_: Well there is the global inputrc. |
| 01:31.42 | mhall | Tye_: And a local one. |
| 01:31.44 | vladster | n chit |
| 01:31.47 | mhall | Tye_: Come to #flood for a sec |
| 01:31.50 | aka_druid | Horstderschwulea, bye |
| 01:31.52 | shingouz | astronut: :o ? |
| 01:32.01 | vladster | there is also pico |
| 01:32.03 | astronut | shingouz: or so i heard in #freenode |
| 01:32.09 | shingouz | hmm |
| 01:32.11 | Horstderschwulea | and i thought gentoo has the same package system like debian? |
| 01:32.17 | ke6isf | Horstderschwulea: Nope |
| 01:32.18 | Horstderschwulea | hello aka |
| 01:32.21 | pureone | no |
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| 01:32.27 | Horstderschwulea | long not see you |
| 01:32.30 | bluefox | gentoo uses emerge |
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| 01:32.40 | aka_druid | Horstderschwulea, yeah.. it was like... 2 bans ago? |
| 01:32.41 | Horstderschwulea | you wanna be my biatch |
| 01:32.55 | pureone | !makesense |
| 01:32.55 | dpkg | somebody said makesense was if we can't understand what you want we can't give you an answer. Here's a hint, use complete sentances, proper punctuation and correct spelling. It also helps if you use the correct terminology. And one more thing, no aolspeak. |
| 01:33.33 | Tye_ | mhall: You've got stuff in your file that I don't have. Are you running sid or sarge? |
| 01:33.35 | bluefox | what the hell is aolspeak? acronym galore? |
| 01:33.37 | aka_druid | goin home :))) |
| 01:33.38 | aka_druid | laters |
| 01:33.39 | bluefox | *acronyms |
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| 01:33.48 | s_ward | What happened to 9 character limits on IRC nicks? |
| 01:33.52 | mentor | UdontKnow: :) |
| 01:33.55 | poonj | anyone here use nuvexport? |
| 01:34.06 | astronut | s_ward: server setting (compile time or in code) |
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| 01:34.14 | mhall | Tye_: well i added to the file via googling |
| 01:34.17 | mhall | Tye_: I have the decidedly non-unix habit of always using arrows and page up / page down. |
| 01:34.29 | mhall | Tye_: That file even followed me to work, where it's supported as written by Solaris 9 bash 2.05 |
| 01:34.30 | ZombB | May it cause problems to add deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free in sources.list when running etch/testing ? |
| 01:34.31 | s_ward | astronut, Well, I think freenode should use it |
| 01:34.31 | bluefox | tsk tsk tsk |
| 01:34.53 | mhall | Problem with that would be, so many people, there'd be nick duplications. |
| 01:35.04 | astronut | mhall: 26^9? you kidding? |
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| 01:35.08 | mhall | So everybody would be appending stupid numbers and crap into the end of their nicks. |
| 01:35.11 | Tye_ | mhall: It's a lot of settings in there you have |
| 01:35.24 | Tye_ | mhall: I take that as a personal attack |
| 01:35.29 | mhall | astronut: Of which a very small percentage are real words / sounds. |
| 01:35.30 | bluefox | mhall, you mean like me? |
| 01:35.34 | bluefox | oh wait.. |
| 01:35.35 | bluefox | heh |
| 01:35.44 | mhall | Tye_: troll me not |
| 01:35.44 | bluefox | i don't have a number at the end of my nick tonight >.> |
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| 01:35.48 | mhall | Tye_: i'm trying to help |
| 01:36.05 | mhall | astronut: and many open sourcers thinking ideologically similar to each other |
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| 01:36.19 | mhall | astronut: and therefore reuse similar memes regularly, like 42, etc. |
| 01:36.27 | astronut | mhall: lol, fair point |
| 01:36.30 | dli | how to show a filename with the full path |
| 01:36.35 | astronut | mhall: i'm guessing michael hall or similar is your real name? |
| 01:36.47 | Tye_ | mhall: Sorry. Anyway, some of the things in the file seem to be to give functionality I already have, like being able to use home/end. |
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| 01:37.00 | mhall | astronut: matt actually but yes |
| 01:37.13 | mhall | astronut: some confuse me with john maddog hall and such |
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| 01:37.34 | mhall | but i'm really JAPH. Just Another POSIX Hacker |
| 01:37.36 | mhall | ;-) |
| 01:37.51 | astronut | mhall: was a guess... |
| 01:37.55 | mhall | astronut: right |
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| 01:38.07 | mhall | astronut: not faulting, just informing ;-) |
| 01:38.12 | astronut | oh, i know |
| 01:38.16 | astronut | should have guessed matt, more common |
| 01:38.46 | usual | is gnome broken in sid? |
| 01:38.51 | mhall | astronut: no worries |
| 01:38.52 | Tye_ | mhall: "# To allow the use of 8bit-characters like the german umlauts, comment out the line below." I can do german umlaut without that line commented out |
| 01:39.04 | mhall | astronut: /whois mhall works |
| 01:39.14 | debootstrap | hi all, does any know why debootstrap is giving this error for sarge? E: Couldn't download libgcrypt7 ?? |
| 01:39.19 | mhall | Tye_: yes, about this, i did not verify all of the comments |
| 01:39.31 | s_ward | !broken in sid |
| 01:39.31 | dpkg | well, duh, what'd you expect, of course it's broken. see sid |
| 01:39.32 | mhall | Tye_: i tried to retain their original contents as assembling the file |
| 01:39.34 | Tye_ | debootstrap: Same happened to me, I got the Debian installer on CD ... |
| 01:40.03 | Tye_ | mhall: The funny thing is, my file has the same thing. So my file sort of contradicts how the system behaves. |
| 01:40.15 | mhall | Tye_: i think maybe they mean either the numpad alt-codes will be affected or the physical umlaut keys on a DE keyboard but not both |
| 01:40.18 | usual | is there a command to install gnome2 in sid? cause gnome and gnome-core and gnome-desktop-environment don't work |
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| 01:40.25 | debootstrap | Tye_, thx |
| 01:40.36 | Tye_ | debootstrap: The ~100MB one works a charm. |
| 01:40.41 | astronut | mhall: didn't on rigtht click |
| 01:40.51 | jmnet | I really need help, I have been tring to get my .php pages to connect to my mysql server, but it keeps saying "fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect()" and I am running mysql 4.1.11, can anyone help? |
| 01:40.53 | mhall | Tye_: yes, also there is the fact that 2.6 is very different about how it does keyboard stuff than 2.4 |
| 01:41.02 | mhall | astronut: ! whoising myself worked |
| 01:41.05 | astronut | says unknown on right click, works on whois |
| 01:41.08 | Tye_ | mhall: And sarge runs 2.4 as default. |
| 01:41.16 | debootstrap | Tye_, thx i'll give it a shot.. |
| 01:41.17 | astronut | weird |
| 01:41.31 | ZombB | May it cause problems to add deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free in sources.list when running etch/testing ? |
| 01:41.32 | Tye_ | astronut: Try the command /whois ... Works fine for me. |
| 01:41.44 | astronut | Tye_: i said it worked on whois |
| 01:41.49 | astronut | <astronut> says unknown on right click, works on whois |
| 01:42.03 | mhall | Tye_: i'd say all you really need would be forward-word and backward-word |
| 01:42.04 | Tye_ | astronut: Sorry, my eyes are starting to shut down. It's late over here :-( |
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| 01:42.14 | mhall | Tye_: i'd say all you really need would be forward-word and backward-word |
| 01:42.37 | mhall | Tye_: and you could deal with the rest later |
| 01:42.55 | Tye_ | mhall: Yeah. You know what I'm doing now? I'm editing the file, but on the server. |
| 01:43.01 | tbx | seemingly at random, upon boot, my optical drive fails detection. When it succeeds, it first does "hdc: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8)" twice, then "hdc: no response (status = 0x90), resetting drive", then fine. When it fails, it does the same, but instead of success gets the IRQ failure again. Can anyone help me lock this down? BTW, this only occurs inside debian - outside debian, the drive works perfectly. Also, in another machine, works perfectly. |
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| 01:43.16 | mhall | Tye_: also if you want a quick fix for all users, then i'd go with hacking the /etc version when you get your dotfile version fixed up |
| 01:43.33 | astronut | Tye_: no problem |
| 01:43.38 | mhall | Tye_: i believe the file is somewhat like an emacs config, in that keys call elisp-like routines |
| 01:43.58 | mhall | Tye_: and any arbitrary combination that actually gets seen by the shell could probably be remapped |
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| 01:44.20 | mhall | Tye_: say if you were willing to type Swedish with no umlauts you could make the umlauts do funny things |
| 01:44.22 | Tye_ | mhall: Seems advanced ... Would it be enough to open a new virtual terminal to reload the .inputrc? |
| 01:44.34 | s_ward | jmnet, do you have php4-mysql installed? |
| 01:44.42 | Tye_ | mhall: And that's how people remap their caps lock to do other things. |
| 01:44.43 | mhall | Tye_: there is also some keystroke that convinces it to be reloaded by the readline library |
| 01:45.06 | jmnet | s_ward, yup |
| 01:45.15 | Tye_ | Okay, starting an rxvt doesn't help. But I logged on with a terminal, and there it works fine. |
| 01:45.36 | mhall | Tye_: Ctrl-X Ctrl-R |
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| 01:45.52 | mhall | Tye_: also, rxvt's are weird and do not always send the proper key codes |
| 01:45.59 | Tye_ | mhall: But it does without the .inputrc file in my home dir as well :-( It's only in rxvts that it doesn't work, it seems |
| 01:46.04 | mhall | Tye_: please do retry with xterm |
| 01:46.17 | mhall | Tye_: i did not realize you were an rxvt user |
| 01:46.20 | zinx | mhall: nah.. they just don't always have the right TERM (or any correct setting for it, for that matter) |
| 01:46.22 | Tye_ | ^x ^r didn't help. |
| 01:46.24 | jmnet | i am using the syntax: mysql_connect ("localhost", "user", "password") or die(mysql_error()); |
| 01:46.32 | ludi | What should I do if I don't see the a printer driver for the particular Manufacturer and Model of printer that I have attached to my USB port? It's a Canon i860 by the way. Thanks. |
| 01:46.41 | mhall | zinx: ah, well i'd heard of issues |
| 01:46.48 | mhall | zinx: would it be happy as an xtermc? |
| 01:46.55 | mhall | zinx: i usually have best luck with that code |
| 01:46.57 | Tye_ | Need to get a sweater and socks, it's cold in the nights. Brb. |
| 01:46.57 | zinx | mhall: i doubt it |
| 01:46.58 | mhall | zinx: type* |
| 01:47.01 | kenboo | ludi, are you using cups? |
| 01:47.32 | ludi | kenboo: Yep |
| 01:47.37 | tbx | kenboo: no, and I keep on getting kicked in the nards, too! Ouch! Should I use one? |
| 01:47.53 | mhall | Tye_: alright, you need rxvt-color or rxvt-unicode terminal types |
| 01:48.00 | zinx | mhall: there's an actually rxvt term entry, but i'm not entirely sure it works |
| 01:48.03 | mhall | Tye_: i think if you try that you will fare better |
| 01:48.04 | zinx | erh, actual |
| 01:48.11 | mhall | zinx: yeah i saw |
| 01:48.13 | zinx | it -should-, but that doesn't mean much ;) |
| 01:48.14 | ludi | In fact, the entire "I series" of Canon printers seems to be missing from Cups.... |
| 01:48.19 | mhall | zinx: terminfo is quite well proofread |
| 01:48.27 | mhall | zinx: it's been around since system v |
| 01:48.41 | zinx | mhall: that doesn't mean current emulators still follow their entries properly :/ |
| 01:48.54 | covux | jmnet: did you install the phpX-mysql package? |
| 01:48.55 | mhall | i'm gonna go get some free food at my friend's restaurant |
| 01:49.04 | mhall | no sense paying for it if i might barf it up |
| 01:49.16 | jmnet | covux: no, going to give that a shot |
| 01:49.16 | mhall | zinx: i've not found a case of this myself |
| 01:49.26 | mhall | zinx: but i do not use many terminals either |
| 01:49.41 | mhall | i once had an old-school WISE monochrome terminal on solaris 2 |
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| 01:49.48 | mhall | and the terminfo was 100% correct |
| 01:50.09 | jmnet | covux: when I try to get it with apt-get, it says there is no such package |
| 01:50.13 | dli | where to start? to install debian using a 256 MB usb memory |
| 01:50.13 | mhall | hardest part was using fucking vi to fix the getty entry |
| 01:50.19 | zinx | mhall: heh :) |
| 01:50.24 | mhall | dli: one sec, and i'll get a URL |
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| 01:50.34 | mhall | dvs: i had green screen %-) |
| 01:50.35 | covux | jmnet: X stands for 3,4 or 5. depends on youre php version you have installed |
| 01:50.50 | mhall | dvs: %-) is the official green screen smily |
| 01:51.09 | dvs | mhall, that's messed up! ;-) |
| 01:51.10 | jmnet | covux: ah, then yes, I have version 4.1.11 |
| 01:51.16 | s_ward | jmnet, I thought you said you had php4-mysql installed? Next question is, is it loaded in your configuration? |
| 01:51.27 | banedon | hi how do I route port 80 to another box using debian? |
| 01:51.29 | banedon | anyone? |
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| 01:51.52 | carrott | heh |
| 01:51.53 | carrott | ook |
| 01:52.00 | jmnet | s_ward: I'm pretty sure, but how do I double check? |
| 01:52.03 | tbx | seemingly at random, upon boot, my optical drive fails detection. When it succeeds, it first does "hdc: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8)" twice, then "hdc: no response (status = 0x90), resetting drive", then fine. When it fails, it does the same, but instead of success gets the IRQ failure again. Can anyone help me lock this down? BTW, this only occurs inside debian - outside debian, the drive works perfectly. Also, in another machine, works perfectly. |
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| 01:52.12 | dvs | carrott, iptables. |
| 01:52.15 | carrott | raqndomness in computers is scary |
| 01:52.21 | carrott | iptables will do the trick |
| 01:52.23 | carrott | cool |
| 01:52.24 | dvs | like that q |
| 01:52.30 | mhall | dvs: i got it for 10 bux at a garage sale because old-school UNIX doesn't do VTs |
| 01:52.40 | mhall | dvs: sadly Solaris 10 STILL does not support VTs |
| 01:52.43 | carrott | my aim is to have a gateway between the web and the webserver serving webmail sitting on the internal network |
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| 01:52.46 | s_ward | jmnet, I'm not sure if it's apache 1.3, in your httpd.conf, poossibly; with apache 2 look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled |
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| 01:52.50 | carrott | will port 80 be able to flwo both ways? |
| 01:52.54 | carrott | flow |
| 01:52.55 | dvs | mhall, Wait. You bought it for your home? |
| 01:53.01 | jmnet | s_ward: ok |
| 01:53.08 | ke6isf | carrott: Yeah, if you tell it to. |
| 01:53.14 | carrott | cool |
| 01:53.18 | carrott | ok awesome |
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| 01:53.24 | carrott | I spent 2 days trying with squid |
| 01:53.26 | s_ward | jmnet, are you using apache or apache2? |
| 01:53.28 | carrott | squid kicked my ass |
| 01:53.29 | mhall | alright, for the guy who needed memstick debian... |
| 01:53.36 | carrott | "rverse proxy" aHHAHAGG |
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| 01:53.42 | dli | mhall, yeah? |
| 01:53.45 | jmnet | s_ward: apache |
| 01:53.52 | spectie | ok, so i screwed up installing libc6 and now ldconfig segfaults |
| 01:53.57 | spectie | and libc6 isn't properly installed |
| 01:54.06 | spectie | is there a way offixing this without a reinstall? |
| 01:54.10 | trueno | get xorg |
| 01:54.22 | dli | trueno, xorg in debian yet? |
| 01:54.23 | carrott | I ama amazned how well debian works but scred when i try n play a porn in kaboolde launched from teh comand line and it fails after playing movie half way with all inda kde compinas on the terminal but the movie playing fine in xorg |
| 01:54.33 | jmnet | s_ward: i have this: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so |
| 01:54.41 | carrott | it complains audio in use |
| 01:54.44 | carrott | maybe by gaim? |
| 01:54.45 | carrott | hmm |
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| 01:54.57 | mhall | dli: link is coming |
| 01:55.00 | mhall | dli: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s04.html.en |
| 01:55.04 | Tye_ | mhall: Sorry, girlfriend woke up and forced me to join her in the bed. Managed to break free though. |
| 01:55.08 | s_ward | jmnet, that's for php4, you need the one for php4-mysql too |
| 01:55.11 | dli | mhall, thanks a lot |
| 01:55.19 | mhall | Tye_: and you are complaining about that? |
| 01:55.21 | dabreegster | Hey. Anybody know if it's possible to use an external serial dialup modem to make local phone calls? It has audio jacks for headphones and a mic. |
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| 01:55.24 | mhall | dli: sorry for the delay |
| 01:55.27 | mhall | dli: ISP is crappy |
| 01:55.42 | s_ward | jmnet, oh,wait, it might be loaded elsewhere |
| 01:55.55 | mhall | i wish all the times I disappeared could be explained by a girl kidnapping me |
| 01:56.05 | mhall | but generally they are because of Comcast |
| 01:56.15 | Tye_ | mhall: Is the terminal type set in an environment variable? |
| 01:56.27 | dli | mhall, no simple way? similar to a CD image? |
| 01:56.28 | mhall | dabreegster: i actually did experiment with this |
| 01:56.29 | Tye_ | mhall: Well, my biological clock is fscked up. It's boring to lie in bed. |
| 01:56.37 | mhall | dabreegster: once i needed to dial into a contest number |
| 01:56.45 | Valen | mhall, it'd only be goot if she was hawt and she wanted you as a sex slave |
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| 01:57.01 | dabreegster | mhall: It's basically for convenience. Is it easy? |
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| 01:57.19 | Valen | if she kidnapped you and left you in a septic tank while she awaited your ransom that would be less than cool |
| 01:57.22 | mhall | dabreegster: so i found i could dial it up with atdt xxxxxxx, then <space> if i wanted to abort because it was busy, and a/ to redial instantly |
| 01:57.39 | dabreegster | mhall: Neat |
| 01:57.54 | mhall | dabreegster: then <space> to abort once connected successfully |
| 01:57.55 | Tye_ | Valen: In the first case, you do actually long for playing around with your freshly installed Sarge box. |
| 01:58.13 | mhall | dabreegster: i hooked the phone up to the phone jack, and cranked the modem speaker up to max to listen to the dial process |
| 01:58.17 | cokecan | hello all |
| 01:58.19 | Valen | Tye_, me? |
| 01:58.26 | Tye_ | Valen: Well, me at least. |
| 01:58.31 | mhall | dabreegster: my particular modem instantly reconnected the phone jack when i aborted the dial procedure |
| 01:58.33 | dli | mhall : I thought comcast gives you 4 Mbps internet |
| 01:58.35 | s_ward | jmnet, in your php.ini, do you have a line saying ";extension=mysql.so"? If so, remove the ';' |
| 01:58.42 | Valen | i want to use linux as my main OS rather than windows |
| 01:58.46 | Valen | noble goal no? |
| 01:58.52 | jmnet | s_ward: ok |
| 01:58.54 | dabreegster | mhall: Yeah, I don't think it'll be hard. What's the easiest way to send the commands and stuff? A special wvdial configuration? Or sending/recieving from /dev/modem? |
| 01:58.54 | mhall | dli: well; yes; for latent-tolerant stuff like BT or HTTP or FTP |
| 01:59.07 | Tye_ | Valen: Very noble. It's very nice, I do that. |
| 01:59.09 | mhall | dli: but for stuff like VOIP or IRC or AIM, it's horrifying |
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| 01:59.14 | Valen | lesse i made a new initrd.deb and replaced the one on the cd |
| 01:59.21 | mhall | dabreegster: that's a tricky question |
| 01:59.31 | mhall | dabreegster: i'd say, go old-school and use tip or minicom |
| 01:59.38 | dabreegster | mhall: alright |
| 01:59.38 | dli | mhall, can you ssh to a box, and run irc there? |
| 01:59.43 | carrott | is voip over linux doible? |
| 01:59.44 | mhall | dabreegster: also grab the manual pdf to get their at commands |
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| 01:59.55 | carrott | damn so much linux to learn so little time |
| 02:00.00 | dli | Vladi, why do you need windows? for its viruses? |
| 02:00.00 | carrott | damn damn |
| 02:00.02 | Lafy_ | why would wbinfo -u and -g work, but -t and -a return NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED? |
| 02:00.08 | carrott | my windows is hell |
| 02:00.08 | Valen | carrott, most of the voip hardware runs linux |
| 02:00.11 | carrott | virus city |
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| 02:00.15 | mhall | dabreegster: you'll probably want some of the vendor at commands for stuff like volume, and maybe playing with the jacks |
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| 02:00.24 | carrott | I have liek 2 programs to eat virus but still virus |
| 02:00.25 | Tye_ | carrott: It works fine with Skype |
| 02:00.33 | carrott | and sun JAVA on window is slow as shit |
| 02:00.33 | Valen | heck damn small linux comes with a voip client |
| 02:00.40 | carrott | for some damn reason |
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| 02:00.46 | carrott | is ibm java better than sun |
| 02:00.47 | Valen | thats just java |
| 02:00.51 | mhall | dabreegster: also i have heard some contact management software will generate touch tones for you or dial stuff up with your modem and then abort it so your handset will work to talk |
| 02:00.53 | carrott | my work uses ibm jvm |
| 02:00.55 | carrott | heh |
| 02:00.58 | carrott | sun sucks |
| 02:01.12 | carrott | sun needs to embrace linux |
| 02:01.19 | Tye_ | Is carrott trolling? |
| 02:01.19 | carrott | and sell hardware |
| 02:01.21 | mhall | dabreegster: old-school win 3.1 contact manager generated touch tones for phone numbers, then you could put the phone by your speaker, and it'd dial |
| 02:01.26 | Tye_ | carrott is trolling. |
| 02:01.31 | carrott | no im saying what on me mind u commmy |
| 02:01.36 | Valen | mhall, thats hardcore |
| 02:01.39 | Valen | i want one |
| 02:01.54 | Valen | pc speaker? |
| 02:02.03 | dabreegster | mhall: Cool. Happen to know if this'll do anything special as far as charges on a phone bill? I'd just be dialing local numbers. |
| 02:02.13 | dabreegster | mhall: I really wouldn't think it would, but I'd like to be cautious. |
| 02:02.14 | Jamsi | Hey guys - I have a linux box with two network cards, if I add another one will that automatically become eth2 when I reboot? Will it not fuck with the arrangements of the current network cards, IE eth0 is external, eth1 is itnernal etc. |
| 02:02.15 | mhall | dli: yeah that's probably what i'm gonna do |
| 02:02.23 | mhall | dli: ssh to my elite sparc linux box |
| 02:02.30 | mhall | dli: with mad crazy uptime, etc. |
| 02:02.50 | Tye_ | Jamsi: I think it depends on the modules. Would it be the same kind as any of the others? |
| 02:03.02 | Jamsi | not sure sorry |
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| 02:03.32 | Tye_ | Jamsi: If you have type A and type B, and then add another type A, I think it would become eth1 and eth1 would get bumped to eth2. But I'm not sure. |
| 02:03.42 | mhall | Valen: i think it used the FM soundcards with old-school win 3.1 directsound drivers |
| 02:03.54 | Valen | where does one look for modules for various kernerl versions? |
| 02:04.05 | mhall | dabreegster: as far as i can tell, phone lines are dial mode neutral |
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| 02:04.12 | Jamsi | Tye_ well tahts gonna suck :P |
| 02:04.17 | dontpanic | Hi all |
| 02:04.18 | mhall | dabreegster: the way you dial does not affect cost, only what you dial |
| 02:04.49 | mhall | dabreegster: i wouldn't be the best guy to ask though because i'm JAPH (just another posix hacker) at a cell phone company |
| 02:04.50 | Valen | eventually i want to have my house running linux |
| 02:05.01 | Valen | video server etc |
| 02:05.04 | Tye_ | Jamsi: If that will happen you just prepare it and replace all eth1 entries with two, or you use the new NIC in place of the old eth1. |
| 02:05.06 | mhall | Valen: that's going to take a real weird fs |
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| 02:05.13 | mhall | Valen: like maybe the literal filesystem |
| 02:05.26 | mhall | Valen: where it stores everything on paper in cabinets and does OCR |
| 02:05.37 | astronut | anyone have an iRiver H10 mp3 player? |
| 02:05.37 | mhall | Valen: and... the device drivers... those would be insane |
| 02:05.50 | Valen | mhall, as in all the electrical devices |
| 02:05.54 | Tye_ | astronut: Why? Do you have a question about it? |
| 02:06.03 | Faithful | what's the command to fix the cut & paste in vi on debian? |
| 02:06.04 | astronut | Tye_: ya, linux support |
| 02:06.06 | Valen | by ssh |
| 02:06.22 | Tye_ | I'm not so crazy about running Linux everywhere. Having open source, hackable systems though, that'd be cool. |
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| 02:06.52 | astronut | Tye_: not running linux, using linux to synch with, etc |
| 02:06.55 | Tye_ | astronut: I'm sure there's no problem copying files to it. Iriver is usually fine. Do you want to do something special? |
| 02:06.59 | Xenguy | Faithful: :set paste ? |
| 02:07.07 | astronut | their website has some kind of eliza that says it's a mass storage device and does NOT support linux..but i'm guessing/hoping that just means it's just not supported by their tech support |
| 02:07.07 | Valen | oh for fucks sake |
| 02:07.16 | Valen | freekin installer cant hack a "size mismatch" |
| 02:07.25 | Faithful | Xenguy: thanks |
| 02:07.43 | Tye_ | astronut: I think you're right. |
| 02:07.47 | Valen | just wasted another cd |
| 02:07.50 | astronut | Tye_: hope so |
| 02:07.53 | astronut | will prob order it soon |
| 02:08.17 | Xenguy | Faithful: yw - if you want to create a hotkey (e.g. F8) for toggling that, I can help also |
| 02:08.32 | Tye_ | mhall: I've set my $TERM to rxvt-color. Should ^b automagically start working right after that, in the same terminal? Or does it seem like I'm smoking crack? |
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| 02:08.51 | moo | can someone point me to a guide to compiling x.org? |
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| 02:08.56 | moo | something that lists all the deps |
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| 02:09.13 | astronut | moo: gentoo/ |
| 02:09.15 | astronut | ?* |
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| 02:09.20 | moo | no, debian |
| 02:09.25 | Faithful | Xenguy: I am not that much of a vi aholic although I probably should be |
| 02:09.28 | moo | lol i would be in #gentoo otherwise :p |
| 02:09.29 | Xenguy | Faithful: hrm, simpler than I recall: stick this line in your ~/.vimrc -> set pastetoggle=<F9> |
| 02:09.34 | astronut | moo: ah, just look at build deps in the control file |
| 02:09.41 | moo | i dont know what that means |
| 02:09.44 | insec | como faco para baixar de um site, por exemplo, do arquivo 100 a 200 sem precissa ficar digitando, wget lalala/100, lalala/101 |
| 02:09.46 | insec | ? |
| 02:09.51 | astronut | moo: thought you were on #freenode, sorry, wasn't paying attention to the chan i was in |
| 02:09.56 | astronut | moo: you have the debian source? |
| 02:09.59 | dontpanic | I was dooing an apt-get search and I am seeing kernel-source and kernel patches for 2.6.8 |
| 02:10.04 | moo | nah i just have the plain x.org source |
| 02:10.09 | Xenguy | Faithful: well if you are using vim, it's a useful one-liner |
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| 02:10.16 | moo | i could apt get the source from debian if it makes a difference |
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| 02:10.21 | Tye_ | insec: Para hablar español, ven a #debian-es |
| 02:10.23 | moo | if i apt get source will it also apt get all the dev package deps? |
| 02:10.25 | dontpanic | does any one know what they are patching? |
| 02:10.26 | astronut | moo: that would be better |
| 02:10.35 | astronut | moo: think so, if not, it will tell you all of them |
| 02:10.40 | moo | k |
| 02:10.55 | moo | i was trying to build it earlier today, i would build it till it failed, install the pkg it needed and try again |
| 02:11.02 | moo | but it just took too damn long :p i built it like 5 timse |
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| 02:11.23 | astronut | best bet would be apt-get source xorg, cd xorg-whatever, debuild |
| 02:11.28 | s_ward | apt-get build-dep <package> -- gets the build dependencies for a package |
| 02:11.34 | Faithful | Xenguy: hit me with it |
| 02:11.39 | jmnet | s_ward: ok, I commented the line, still no workie |
| 02:11.52 | astronut | moo: or listen to s_ward, that's a better idea |
| 02:11.54 | moo | argh |
| 02:11.54 | s_ward | jmnet, you mean un-commented, I hope |
| 02:11.56 | moo | ok |
| 02:12.00 | moo | that makes sense but... |
| 02:12.11 | jmnet | s_ward: lol, ya |
| 02:12.33 | moo | ok im running 3.1 |
| 02:12.38 | moo | but im not seeing an x.org package |
| 02:12.39 | astronut | sarge? |
| 02:12.45 | s_ward | jmnet, even after restarting apache? I think it should load at runtime, but it might not |
| 02:12.51 | Tye_ | Isn't X.org only in sid? |
| 02:12.55 | mhall | Tye_: no, it should work, if it's going to work |
| 02:12.56 | moo | argh |
| 02:13.09 | mhall | Tye_: the term type is watched by the shell |
| 02:13.11 | Tye_ | mhall: Good, cause it doesn't! |
| 02:13.18 | Xenguy | Faithful: hrm, simpler than I recall: stick this line in your ~/.vimrc -> set pastetoggle=<F9> |
| 02:13.36 | jmnet | s_ward: restarted both mysql and apache |
| 02:13.53 | moo | build-dep huh, never heard of that command, thats cool |
| 02:13.57 | Valen | how can i run mkinitrd from within the installer? |
| 02:14.15 | Tye_ | mhall: I don't really know what means for me |
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| 02:14.25 | oKtosiTe | moo: are drop shadows that important to you? |
| 02:14.53 | moo | no |
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| 02:15.24 | moo | but i need a newer x |
| 02:15.28 | moo | cos i need mutouch driver |
| 02:15.35 | moo | and the one that comes with sarge is too old |
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| 02:15.52 | s_ward | jmnet, if you call phpinfo() does it show the mysql module? |
| 02:16.17 | cisco | good night |
| 02:16.30 | cisco | I need some help |
| 02:17.14 | moo | ls |
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| 02:17.19 | moo | HEY! where are all my files?!? |
| 02:17.20 | cisco | I want to know how Ican do a shortcut |
| 02:17.32 | moo | ln -s /blah /blah/blah |
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| 02:18.31 | dockane | http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/ |
| 02:18.45 | s_ward | moo, you can have fun all night with that: cd blah; ls -- "what the.." -- cd blah; ls ... |
| 02:19.11 | dockane | sorry, wrong channel |
| 02:19.14 | cisco | no one knows?? |
| 02:19.20 | moo | cisco i just told u |
| 02:19.24 | jmnet | s_ward: ya, says it in the supported databases |
| 02:19.34 | moo | ln -s /source /target ln means link -s means symbolic not hard |
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| 02:20.03 | jmnet | s_ward: mod_php4 |
| 02:20.11 | cisco | nice |
| 02:20.18 | cisco | thx |
| 02:20.21 | moo | np |
| 02:20.44 | jmnet | s_ward: dont see a mod_mysql or anything, how do I add that in |
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| 02:21.19 | moo | apache-mysql ? |
| 02:21.30 | mhall | Tye_: ! very odd behavior in your terminal |
| 02:21.45 | mhall | Tye_: find /usr/share/terminfo -name \*rxvt\* -print |
| 02:21.49 | mhall | Tye_: try all of these |
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| 02:22.28 | mhall | Tye_: if it fails then i'd head over to bugs.debian.org/rxvt, provide an explanation of the regression, the inputrcs (global, local) in effect at the time and the terminal types tried |
| 02:22.37 | UnKnowN_ | All your Linux are belong to us |
| 02:22.42 | mhall | Tye_: rxvt has long been a bit weird in its key handling |
| 02:22.54 | mhall | Tye_: i never did understand it on a technical level though |
| 02:23.06 | Tye_ | mhall: But wait a minute. I'm sure it's my fault. |
| 02:23.06 | mhall | UnKnowN_: All your mom is belong to me! |
| 02:23.09 | tbx | seemingly at random, upon boot, my optical drive fails detection. When it succeeds, it first does "hdc: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8)" twice, then "hdc: no response (status = 0x90), resetting drive", then fine. When it fails, it does the same, but instead of success gets the IRQ failure again. Can anyone help me lock this down? BTW, this only occurs inside debian - outside debian, the drive works perfectly. Also, in another machine, works perfectly. |
| 02:23.12 | UnKnowN_ | All your Linux are belong to us |
| 02:23.14 | UnKnowN_ | All your Linux are belong to me! |
| 02:23.15 | UnKnowN_ | All your Linux are belong to me! |
| 02:23.17 | UnKnowN_ | ME! |
| 02:23.23 | mhall | oops |
| 02:23.32 | mhall | !tell UnKnowN_ about repeat |
| 02:23.33 | Tye_ | mhall: If I do "export TERM="rxvt-color", should it work fine after that? |
| 02:23.42 | ZombB | how can I change the default compiler in debian e.g. from gcc3.3 to gcc3.4 |
| 02:23.43 | mhall | Tye_: i'd assume so, yes |
| 02:23.50 | mhall | Tye_: if not try the other term types |
| 02:23.57 | mhall | Tye_: and if they do not work, file a bug |
| 02:24.12 | mhall | Tye_: also the codes i gave you for inputrc |
| 02:24.19 | mhall | Tye_: they do not specify Alt-b |
| 02:24.24 | mhall | Tye_: you will need to change them |
| 02:24.35 | Tye_ | Oh. Alt-b is what I've been trying. |
| 02:24.45 | Tye_ | Or, which codes? |
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| 02:26.01 | mhall | Tye_: the ones i programmed for that are Alt-LArrow and Alt-RArrow |
| 02:26.19 | mhall | Tye_: i'm finding you a doc that will explain what to replace these with to get the codes you desire |
| 02:26.23 | mhall | Tye_: one moment |
| 02:26.34 | mhall | Tye_: and i'm sorry for not explaining this more clearly earlier on |
| 02:26.35 | dabreegster | mhall: Sorry, wandered off and ate dinner. Thanks for the info, I'm going to try it out now. Bye. |
| 02:26.36 | Tye_ | Hm |
| 02:26.49 | moo | hey what package is path in |
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| 02:27.08 | Tye_ | mhall: "\e[5C": forward-word <- is this ctrl+arrow? |
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| 02:28.05 | arango | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.56 | Tye_ | mhall: Every once in a while I get the following. Could it be related? "atkbd.c: Keyboard on isa0060/serio0 reports too many keys pressed." |
| 02:28.59 | S0L1DUS | im using dvd::rip and its working like a charm |
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| 02:29.04 | mhall | Tye_: that should be ctrl right arrow |
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| 02:29.15 | mhall | Tye_: and the backward should be ctrl right arrow |
| 02:29.27 | asuffield | Tye_: that's unrelated. AT-type keyboards only support depressing up to three keys at once |
| 02:29.42 | mhall | Tye_: that error is possibly due to your keyboard controller having an odd buffering setup |
| 02:29.49 | mhall | Tye_: also, what asuffield said |
| 02:29.52 | Tye_ | asuffield: Hm. This is a laptop, I don't think I have an AT keyboard. |
| 02:29.59 | mhall | asuffield: thanks for the clarification on that |
| 02:30.00 | asuffield | laptop == fucked up hardware |
| 02:30.11 | Tye_ | And this didn't happen in Sid. By the way, it's a Thinkpad. |
| 02:30.34 | asuffield | modern keyboards tend to do more - but PC keyboards are stupidly sophisticated pieces of hardware, and some still have the annoying old limitations |
| 02:31.01 | asuffield | Tye_: probably the kernel just supressed the message as useless noise |
| 02:31.05 | s_ward | ok jmnet, you should see a table of info about the mysql module in the output of "<?php phpinfo(INFO_MODULES); ?>" (it's not anyting in the apache Loaded Modules section, mod_*) |
| 02:31.06 | Tye_ | The funny thing is it does it on its own. |
| 02:31.11 | Tye_ | When I don't touch the keyboard. |
| 02:31.13 | mhall | Tye_: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/30/Bash_Configuration.pdf is the link for you |
| 02:31.24 | Tye_ | Thanks mhall! |
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| 02:31.40 | mhall | Tye_: that link explains how to take care of everything |
| 02:31.49 | Tye_ | Great! |
| 02:31.53 | mhall | Tye_: and how to retrieve the readline codes for the keys you want |
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| 02:33.45 | mhall | asuffield: i wish laptops were not soo bizarre |
| 02:33.47 | Tye_ | Now I also know that it was rms that wrote bash. Impressive! |
| 02:33.48 | jmnet | s_ward: the only time mysql shows up is in the supported database section |
| 02:33.53 | brimstone | how do i fix this? "zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.2.2-4) but 1:1.2.2-4.sarge.2 is to be installed" |
| 02:33.55 | asuffield | I wish laptops were not so *crap* |
| 02:33.55 | mhall | asuffield: my 64-bit one is a real bastard |
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| 02:34.31 | asuffield | Tye_: not if you've seen the code, it isn't |
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| 02:34.36 | mhall | brimstone: hmm do you have multiple rels of debian in the sources.list |
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| 02:34.55 | asuffield | bash is quite horrible |
| 02:34.56 | mhall | i gotta go get food |
| 02:35.01 | Tye_ | asuffield: Ignorance is bliss! |
| 02:35.03 | brimstone | mhall: i used to have stable and testing, but then i commented out the stable one, and it still errors after an apt-get update/upgrade :/ |
| 02:35.06 | Tye_ | mhall: Thanks for all the help! |
| 02:35.15 | asuffield | mhall: just so long as you never have to debug it |
| 02:35.27 | mhall | brimstone: are you sure you don't mean apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 02:35.37 | brimstone | mhall: i did one of those too |
| 02:35.47 | jmnet | s_ward: FYI..mysql IS NOT in my modules.conf file |
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| 02:35.59 | mhall | just get my happy tweaked inputrc, enable advanced completion, and 50% of my commands type themselves |
| 02:36.09 | mhall | supposedly zsh is better at this stuff |
| 02:36.21 | mhall | but some of their idioms are odd and it's not available on all of my boxes |
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| 04:50.27 | eggy | help us please :( |
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| 04:51.14 | stouset | With? |
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| 04:52.18 | NoRC | how hard is it to hook up a mobile phone to a debian box to send sms via command line? |
| 04:52.24 | NoRC | or something similar |
| 04:52.28 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know how to access a windows directory that is shared over a lan? |
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| 04:54.16 | TwistedEmotions | Hmm.. |
| 04:54.25 | TwistedEmotions | That's great. |
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| 04:55.13 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know of a program that will allow me to share files between linux and windows? |
| 04:55.16 | prodope | how would i permanently mount a windows 95 share on a networked computer |
| 04:55.21 | prodope | 98, sorry |
| 04:55.29 | TwistedEmotions | Except for samba.. |
| 04:55.42 | TwistedEmotions | I just want to send like 10 files from my sisters computer to mine.. |
| 04:55.47 | mwilson | NoRC: Considering that there are any number of applications to do it directly, not to mention that most phone providers allow you to simply email the phone, why would you want to control the phone directly? |
| 04:55.49 | TwistedEmotions | and AIM wont accept it.. |
| 04:56.13 | prodope | scp ? |
| 04:57.09 | Lord-Cereburus | mwilson: just for future referance,(i solved it, and it had everythign to do with the two bits of info i gave), its chown root.<group for su access> /bin/su followed by chmod 4750 /bin/su. the way i had done it originaly caused a permissions problem. |
| 04:57.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | prodope: you mean a samba share? |
| 04:57.35 | TwistedEmotions | prodope: doesnt SCP require a server on the windows computer? |
| 04:58.30 | prodope | Kamping_Kaiser: yeah |
| 04:58.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | yes it does |
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| 04:59.03 | prodope | Kamping_Kaiser: i'm doing mount -t //helium/shared ./ and i get this for dmesg: smb_fill_super: missing data argument |
| 04:59.17 | NoRC | mwilson... because im not going to pay some company $5000 for using their web gateway for a application im writing |
| 04:59.30 | NoRC | Id rather write my own solution to the problem than use a 3rd party. |
| 04:59.37 | prodope | for/from |
| 04:59.44 | NoRC | That way its all on me and i dont have to worry about anything going wrong on their end or what not. |
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| 05:00.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | prodope: you meed the type of shrae after -t |
| 05:00.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | *share |
| 05:00.11 | prodope | sorry, -t smbfsd |
| 05:00.12 | prodope | sorry, -t smbfs |
| 05:00.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | not sure. it's s amba thing |
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| 05:10.24 | TwistedEmotions | Message from syslogd@localhost at Sun Aug 7 22:10:11 2005 ... |
| 05:10.24 | TwistedEmotions | localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold Message from syslogd@localhost at Sun Aug 7 22:10:11 2005 ... |
| 05:10.24 | TwistedEmotions | localhost kernel: CPU1: Temperature above threshold |
| 05:10.30 | TwistedEmotions | Sorry... |
| 05:10.38 | TwistedEmotions | Err... I keep getting that error message.. |
| 05:11.08 | TwistedEmotions | and I cdoublt that the CPU is actually overheating because with windows it doesnt overheat and I refuse to believe that it does with linux |
| 05:12.11 | TwistedEmotions | Is there some way to check to see what the temperature is set for and how to change it? |
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| 05:13.10 | Lord-Cereburus | TwistedEmotions: you could check the fan and make sure its not defective... other than that i'm really not sure |
| 05:13.30 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: it's a new fan... tested it.. seemed to work fine... |
| 05:13.35 | Lord-Cereburus | hm |
| 05:13.42 | TwistedEmotions | I mean... 46degrees... not GREAT.. |
| 05:13.46 | TwistedEmotions | but not horrible.. |
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| 05:14.07 | Lord-Cereburus | not great either |
| 05:14.14 | ozzloy | what does the "pc" stand for in ppc? "power personal computer"? no dice on google yet |
| 05:14.16 | Lord-Cereburus | mine is at 30degrees |
| 05:14.19 | TwistedEmotions | Isnt that what I said? |
| 05:14.21 | Lord-Cereburus | power pc |
| 05:14.28 | Lord-Cereburus | power personal computer rather |
| 05:14.36 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: I ran at -2 degree C.. |
| 05:14.36 | Lord-Cereburus | yeah, i'm just quoting you :) |
| 05:14.38 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
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| 05:14.50 | TwistedEmotions | But too much power... wasting electricity.. |
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| 05:15.00 | ozzloy | really? that sounds kinda weird.. can't think of anything else it would be though |
| 05:15.22 | TwistedEmotions | I have pictures of my CPU with frost on it.. wasnt a good idea... but was damn funny.. |
| 05:15.23 | Lord-Cereburus | maybee the temp is being read wrong |
| 05:15.42 | sigp239 | Does anyone here use AbiWord? |
| 05:15.56 | Lord-Cereburus | only way i can think of really testing it is getting an external thermom and installing it(like the ones that come with fan power modulator kits) |
| 05:16.04 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: is there some way to just kill it? I know it's not safe but I really dont care... I was thinking about buying a new chip anyways.. |
| 05:16.05 | Lord-Cereburus | i want to see those pics lol |
| 05:16.18 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: let me see if I can find it.. |
| 05:16.24 | pygrammer | sigp239, open office kills abiword |
| 05:16.25 | ozzloy | sigp239, i have used it before, a while ago |
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| 05:16.47 | Lord-Cereburus | well if you really want to kill a cpu, best way(in my oppinion) is to get a tank of liquid nitrogen, freeze the chip, throw it in the air... with a bbgun aim and shoot ;p |
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| 05:17.46 | ke6isf | TwistedEmotions: You can drip water into the circuitry. I've heard one story where it neatly cracks the ceramic. |
| 05:17.57 | sigp239 | pygrammer: Why? |
| 05:18.07 | pygrammer | sigp239, it's just better |
| 05:18.20 | Lord-Cereburus | it has a nicer interface imho, but to each his/her own |
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| 05:18.40 | TwistedEmotions | ke6isf: I got my slurpee... what now? |
| 05:18.49 | Lord-Cereburus | lol |
| 05:18.54 | sigp239 | pygrammer: How so? |
| 05:19.19 | pygrammer | More features; better features; closer in resemblance to Office |
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| 05:19.48 | mwilson | Resemblance to Office is somehow important? |
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| 05:19.51 | Lord-Cereburus | and its somewhat compatible with office format |
| 05:20.26 | sigp239 | Lord-Cereburus: And AbiWord is less compatible with office format? |
| 05:20.48 | Lord-Cereburus | i really wouldnt know, havnt used it much ;) |
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| 05:24.02 | tag | whats up with the ancient copy of rhino in apt? |
| 05:24.58 | _rene_ | Rhino 1.6R1 2004-11-29 Changes in 1.6R1 rhino1_6R1.zip |
| 05:24.59 | _rene_ | Rhino 1.5R5 2004-03-25 Changes in 1.5R5 rhino1_5R5.zip |
| 05:25.11 | _rene_ | it's not THAT ancient. only one version behind |
| 05:25.24 | _rene_ | and well, there may be a reason. ask the maintainer :) |
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| 05:30.16 | BhaalWK | *tumbleweed* |
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| 05:32.00 | tag | _rene_: Yeah its only 1 version and 1.5 years behind |
| 05:32.03 | tag | :-) |
| 05:32.18 | tag | also, ant seems to be broken? |
| 05:32.24 | _rene_ | 1 version. depending on what happened in that version there may be a reason |
| 05:32.28 | _rene_ | as said, as the maintainer |
| 05:32.37 | tag | how do I find out who the maintainer is? |
| 05:32.55 | _rene_ | apt-cache show for example. or packages.debian.org. or... |
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| 05:33.53 | bodom | If I use apt-get does Fluxbox automatically add it to the menu? |
| 05:33.57 | bodom | <-noob question |
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| 05:34.07 | bodom | or if i did, fluxbox-generate_menu ? |
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| 05:36.22 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ovaici@sbcglobal.net/album?.dir=6e57&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos |
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| 05:37.46 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: did that link work? Freaking yahoo... |
| 05:37.59 | Lord-Cereburus | will check now |
| 05:38.10 | Lord-Cereburus | yep :) |
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| 05:38.35 | ABRAXAS7 | the channel of ebian in spanish was hacked |
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| 05:38.40 | ABRAXAS7 | debin |
| 05:38.44 | bodom | lol |
| 05:38.46 | ABRAXAS7 | debian! |
| 05:38.52 | ABRAXAS7 | by somebody called _hellboy_ |
| 05:39.07 | Lord-Cereburus | how the hell did you get it that cold? |
| 05:39.29 | ABRAXAS7 | te stupid lammer yesterdy started insult and making dos to all users |
| 05:39.51 | ABRAXAS7 | and now we havent #debian-es |
| 05:39.54 | dave007 | Hi I just install debian and I want to apt-get gnome (Im using unstable) but I get that I have unmet dependencies (gnome-desktop-enviroment and gnome-office), what could I do? |
| 05:40.34 | jm_ | you could use stable instead of unstable |
| 05:40.40 | jm_ | obviously not now ... |
| 05:40.43 | xsdg | ABRAXAS7: are you identified with nickserv? |
| 05:41.07 | dave007 | jm_ but this has never occured before, and I always use unstable |
| 05:41.09 | ABRAXAS7 | xsdg, no,how can i contact? |
| 05:41.11 | Lord-Cereburus | xsdg: he isnt |
| 05:41.14 | ABRAXAS7 | aahh |
| 05:41.19 | ABRAXAS7 | identifed |
| 05:41.19 | ABRAXAS7 | no |
| 05:41.27 | ABRAXAS7 | caus now i have problem with my nick |
| 05:41.29 | jm_ | dave007: the hell it hasn't - GNOME has been broken in unstable for a while when a transition to 2.10 started |
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| 05:41.52 | dave007 | damn |
| 05:42.00 | ABRAXAS77 | xsdg, now yes |
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| 05:42.13 | xsdg | ABRAXAS77: the channel is +r because of the floods, which only allows identified people to join |
| 05:42.35 | Reptile4 | when i try to run apache, i get this error "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so into server: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Bad address" anyone know how I can fix this? |
| 05:43.09 | ABRAXAS77 | xsdg, u r right,now im in the channel,but yesterday he hacked to the users |
| 05:43.17 | ABRAXAS77 | many users,me include |
| 05:43.38 | Lord-Cereburus | he doesnt actualy have to join the chan to get the user list |
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| 05:43.45 | xsdg | ABRAXAS77: what do you mean by "hacked" a portscan usually isn't harmful |
| 05:43.56 | ABRAXAS77 | xsdg, DOS |
| 05:44.06 | ABRAXAS77 | or ddos |
| 05:44.07 | ABRAXAS77 | lag |
| 05:44.10 | ABRAXAS77 | i dont know |
| 05:44.23 | ABRAXAS77 | he soped the internet connection of the users |
| 05:44.34 | ABRAXAS77 | xsdg, what we can do now? |
| 05:44.40 | xsdg | ABRAXAS77: hrm; I'd recommend talking to your ISP if that happens again |
| 05:44.56 | Lord-Cereburus | and if it happened on freenode, drop a line with the staffers |
| 05:44.57 | ABRAXAS77 | yes |
| 05:45.13 | xsdg | Lord-Cereburus: *cough* |
| 05:45.17 | ABRAXAS77 | Lord-Cereburus, who r the staffers? |
| 05:45.26 | Lord-Cereburus | well there you have it |
| 05:45.30 | Lord-Cereburus | :p |
| 05:45.40 | ABRAXAS77 | u mean,the operatos of the channel? |
| 05:45.46 | ABRAXAS77 | operators |
| 05:45.46 | zamolxes | and he was probably from outer space with their alien dos |
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| 05:46.29 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: ;) Peltier w/600 Watt Power Supply and water cooling ;) |
| 05:46.42 | Lord-Cereburus | TwistedEmotions: haha nice :) |
| 05:46.52 | TwistedEmotions | Lord-Cereburus: yeah.. I was bored. |
| 05:47.07 | Lord-Cereburus | thats great lol |
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| 05:49.00 | ABRAXAS77 | his actually nick is shellboy,he is connected to debian-es,and active |
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| 05:49.33 | torc | how do i update the boot loader on powerpc? |
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| 06:01.13 | Reptile4 | when i try to run apache, i get this error "Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so into server: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Bad address" anyone know how I can fix this? |
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| 06:02.46 | floppyears | hi |
| 06:02.57 | floppyears | can someone suggest me a good rss news reader ? |
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| 06:05.42 | Eonn | guys how do i temporarily stop iptables service |
| 06:06.31 | doobiean | try /etc/init.d/iptables stop |
| 06:07.06 | Eonn | nope |
| 06:07.16 | sep | Eonn, since there are many ways you can run iptables it's hard to answer since you dont tell us how you run it. |
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| 06:07.36 | Eonn | sep> its a basic sarge install. Default settings |
| 06:07.50 | Eonn | having an issue with samba and i just wanted to see whether it was a firewall problem |
| 06:08.00 | sep | you mean you havent configured your firewall yet |
| 06:08.04 | Eonn | as it is refusing to connect to localhost 127.0.0.1 |
| 06:08.06 | sep | in that case it's not running |
| 06:08.32 | floppyears | Eonn: you can always use kill -9 |
| 06:08.45 | nkuttler | um |
| 06:09.09 | sep | eonn : read /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz to figure out how you want to run your iptables |
| 06:09.15 | Eonn | so would you have any idea why I get the message "Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (connection refused)" when i run the command smbclient -L wutang (wutang is the host name) |
| 06:09.28 | sep | floppyears, get a grip man. your rambeling |
| 06:10.28 | sep | Eonn, try /etc/init.d/samba restart , then look in /var/log/daemons.log. also netstat -plont, figure out if smb and nmb processes are listening |
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| 06:11.28 | sep | Eonn, and you can ofcouse have a iptables firewall script installed that start your firewall for you. but a firewall that blocks 127.0.0.1 from itself... not the most clever idea imho |
| 06:11.46 | doobiean | Eonn, i think that you need to open ports 137, 138, and 139 tcp and udp for samba to work |
| 06:12.40 | Eonn | netstat -plont does not show smb and nmb |
| 06:12.52 | sep | Eonn, then you need to start samba |
| 06:13.19 | sep | it's probably called smbd tho |
| 06:13.22 | dotCOMmie | I made a few dummy packages (libfreetype6 libmagick6 .. and others) so I could install kismet without all kinds of junk but when I try to apt-get kismet it says that it still needs libfreetype6 (and some other which I made dummies) |
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| 06:13.37 | Eonn | i have started samba |
| 06:14.11 | sep | Eonn, if you had samba running, then smbd would be listening, and you'd see that in netstat -plont. so you are not running samba. |
| 06:14.13 | doobiean | smbd start nmbd start |
| 06:14.24 | sep | read daemon.log to get error messages |
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| 06:14.45 | Reptile4 | i try to run apache, and i get the error "libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires" anyone know how I can fix this? |
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| 06:16.00 | balzac_ | hello |
| 06:16.14 | dotCOMmie | Reptile4: the Reptile4 from dropnet? |
| 06:16.31 | nkuttler | Reptile4: check the bts |
| 06:17.10 | Reptile4 | nkuttler bts? |
| 06:17.12 | Reptile4 | dotCOMmie: yes :D |
| 06:17.16 | balzac_ | i'm working on editing a .bashrc file to include a pointer to ruby, which i've just installed |
| 06:17.17 | nkuttler | Reptile4: /topic |
| 06:17.18 | balzac_ | from source |
| 06:17.33 | nkuttler | balzac_: a pointer? |
| 06:17.39 | balzac_ | well, not a pointer |
| 06:17.43 | wi43 | an alias |
| 06:17.52 | balzac_ | maybe so. here's the instruction: |
| 06:17.53 | balzac_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.59 | balzac_ | http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/?Chapter=00 |
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| 06:18.10 | balzac_ | i've done everything up till that line about editing .bashrc |
| 06:18.25 | wi43 | hmm, maybe it is already in your path |
| 06:18.26 | sep | Reptile4, you have ofcouse done the ovious and verified that that file is on your system ? |
| 06:18.27 | Eonn | sep: output of deamon.log :Aug 7 20:30:57 localhost smbd[4693]: [2005/08/07 20:30:57, 0] param/loadparm.c:map_parameter(2470) |
| 06:18.27 | Eonn | Aug 7 20:30:57 localhost smbd[4693]: Unknown parameter encountered: "domain" |
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| 06:18.46 | balzac_ | i'm not sure where in .bashrc to add "$HOME/bin" |
| 06:18.47 | Hiryu | I need a good scsi raid controller that works under debian-amd64... can anyone recommend anything? |
| 06:18.51 | Reptile4 | sep: yes the file is on my system, the package is installed |
| 06:18.53 | nkuttler | balzac_: try PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar, anywhere |
| 06:19.02 | TK-1 | Netsplit Detected irc.freenode.net from: zelazny.freenode.net |
| 06:19.22 | balzac_ | roger zelazny wrote some good books |
| 06:19.40 | torc_ | zangband is fine\ |
| 06:19.45 | balzac_ | i love the sci-fi author names for freenode. that's so friggin cool i can't stand it. |
| 06:20.17 | balzac_ | nkuttler, i'm going to try what you said |
| 06:20.29 | balzac_ | PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar |
| 06:20.59 | nkuttler | balzac_: and export PATH after |
| 06:22.02 | balzac_ | PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar export PATH ? |
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| 06:22.18 | balzac_ | i'm a linux newb, so i need all instruction 100% explicit |
| 06:22.29 | nkuttler | balzac_: no, google "bash change path" |
| 06:22.45 | nkuttler | balzac_: foo, bar are placeholders you fill out correctly |
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| 06:23.47 | Eonn | how do i completely remove samba and start again? |
| 06:23.56 | nkuttler | Eonn: purge it, man apt-get |
| 06:24.18 | dotCOMmie | Eonn: apt-get --purge remove samba |
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| 06:27.00 | dilku | does anyone know how to change the Keyboard layout dynamically? |
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| 06:27.13 | balzac_ | nkuttler, maybe this is correct: PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin |
| 06:27.23 | nkuttler | balzac_: try it |
| 06:27.33 | nkuttler | dilku: in x try xmodmap |
| 06:27.33 | balzac_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.46 | Eonn | nkuttler: apt-get remove --purge samba |
| 06:27.57 | Eonn | looking like its going to remove but not purge |
| 06:28.23 | nkuttler | Eonn: why do you think that |
| 06:28.44 | Eonn | its not giving any message to indicate the purge option is being actioned |
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| 06:28.59 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know of a program that can compress pictures on a mass level... like 50 pictures at once? |
| 06:29.16 | nkuttler | TwistedEmotions: what kind of pictures |
| 06:29.37 | balzac_ | shouldn't the first part be named for the thing i type to invoke ruby? |
| 06:29.54 | balzac_ | like: ruby=$PATH:$HOME/bin |
| 06:29.55 | crispynix-v6 | TwistedEmotions: you could easily write a script in bash to do with with imagemagick's convert |
| 06:30.04 | crispynix-v6 | *do it with |
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| 06:30.05 | balzac_ | why Path=&PATH |
| 06:30.06 | nkuttler | balzac_: you add the path with the ruby binary to your old path |
| 06:30.16 | nkuttler | balzac_: because you change $PATH. do echo $PATH |
| 06:30.17 | TwistedEmotions | nkuttler: just .jpg's |
| 06:30.19 | balzac_ | how do i identify my old path |
| 06:30.30 | TwistedEmotions | crispynix-v6: been meaning to learn to use bash ;( |
| 06:30.33 | nkuttler | TwistedEmotions: look into the imagemagick tools |
| 06:30.43 | wi43 | echo $PATH; |
| 06:30.43 | TwistedEmotions | nkuttler: kk |
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| 06:30.47 | Eclipser | whoa |
| 06:31.20 | crispynix-v6 | TwistedEmotions: example: for x in *.png; do convert $x ${x##png}.jpg; done (NOT TESTED; might try replacing ## with % too) |
| 06:31.40 | crispynix-v6 | er, replacing ## with %% (two percents) |
| 06:32.04 | balzac_ | it worked, but i'm still clueless |
| 06:32.26 | balzac_ | oh well, thanks for the help |
| 06:32.32 | nkuttler | balzac_: try man bash, search for PATH |
| 06:32.42 | balzac_ | thanks |
| 06:32.57 | balzac_ | well, my ruby is installed finally |
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| 06:33.29 | SDFH_Linux | how do you restart samba on the command line |
| 06:33.36 | nkuttler | balzac_: btw, you may want to install stuff in ~/local, not ~/ directly, gets messy |
| 06:33.51 | nkuttler | SDFH_Linux: /etc/init.d/samba restart |
| 06:33.56 | SDFH_Linux | k |
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| 06:34.30 | doobiean | or smbd restart - nmbd restart |
| 06:35.47 | crispynix-v6 | TwistedEmotions: working example: for x in *.png; do convert "$x" "${x%png}jpg"; done |
| 06:36.01 | crispynix-v6 | dangit |
| 06:36.12 | crispynix-v6 | TwistedEmotions: two percents (my client filters one for some reason) |
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| 06:36.33 | Drac[SLEEP] | heya. Where's the list of things to start specifically with Blackbox? |
| 06:36.41 | TwistedEmotions | crispynix-v6: I just run that command in console? |
| 06:36.49 | nkuttler | Drac[SLEEP]: things? /usr/share/doc/blackbox? |
| 06:36.58 | crispynix-v6 | TwistedEmotions: yep, with changes if necessary (e.g. specify options for convert) |
| 06:37.04 | nkuttler | TwistedEmotions: no, man convert for a start |
| 06:37.24 | Drac[SLEEP] | Applications. A file you can add to, nkuttler |
| 06:37.24 | nkuttler | crispynix-v6: he wants jpg->jpg |
| 06:37.25 | crispynix-v6 | TwistedEmotions: and man bash too =) (or type help) |
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| 06:37.36 | crispynix-v6 | nkuttler: well, I said it was an example |
| 06:38.01 | crispynix-v6 | basically you want to use a for loop like that, and substitution works as demonstrated |
| 06:38.07 | crispynix-v6 | but with two percents instead of one |
| 06:38.12 | nkuttler | Drac[SLEEP]: um that has to be the menu system, never messed with it, man update-menus for a start |
| 06:38.28 | Drac[SLEEP] | Eh. Nevermind. It's not important. |
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| 06:39.21 | TwistedEmotions | crispynix-v6: nkuttler: thanks |
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| 06:48.43 | Cyis | anyone got a suggestion of where to look on Sarge GNOME config to change the default media player from Rythmbox to XMMS? |
| 06:48.56 | Cyis | can find the settings for email and web client but not media player |
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| 06:51.50 | ozzloy | what is a good programming book? for programming in general, not a specific language? |
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| 06:56.59 | crispynix-v6 | ozzloy: I don't think there are [m]any books that cover language-agnostic programming concepts, but I could be wrong... |
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| 06:57.09 | ozzloy | like a book on good programming practices |
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| 06:57.33 | knt | is there any standard method for running initscripts/daemons under rbash instead of bash? |
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| 06:58.16 | crispynix-v6 | ozzloy: ah, search at e.g. amazon.com for programming concepts |
| 06:58.40 | crispynix-v6 | ozzloy: for security-specific stuff, perhaps search for buffer overruns or safe programming, dunno |
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| 07:01.21 | yxa | might be a little offtopic but anyone knows of a good pki solution (commercial or not) with a nice gui, web enrollment, oscp, sdk, vpn, hardware token support, etc? |
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| 07:01.59 | ozzloy | crispynix-v6, not interested in security ... well i guess i should make secure code. do you know any of those books it turns up? |
| 07:02.17 | ozzloy | for search on "programming concepts" |
| 07:02.23 | crispynix-v6 | ozzloy: no, I'm still struggling with C pointers ;o |
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| 07:03.10 | sep | you cant find anything on this page ? http://www.pki-page.org/ |
| 07:03.19 | alex_ez | hi, guys |
| 07:03.39 | alex_ez | sep: PKI Page... |
| 07:05.49 | SDFH_Linux | whats the command to get all kde |
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| 07:08.37 | jordin | alguien de #debian-es? |
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| 07:08.51 | cat | que pasa jordin / |
| 07:08.58 | jordin | jue que ha pasao con el canal? |
| 07:09.03 | cat | nose |
| 07:09.05 | jordin | ha desaparecio? |
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| 07:09.21 | jordin | es que entre ayer y anteayer despues de unos dias ocupao |
| 07:09.29 | jordin | y me entra a #overflow |
| 07:09.33 | cat | ah |
| 07:09.34 | cat | nose |
| 07:09.39 | jordin | no has probao tu |
| 07:09.47 | jordin | ni en freenode ni en debian servers |
| 07:09.52 | jordin | vaya con el xchat |
| 07:09.55 | jordin | cohoné |
| 07:10.02 | musasabi | Is there a way to install a package into a debian system (mounted) with a foreign architecture? |
| 07:10.02 | jordin | ueno na era pa ver si alguien sabi algo |
| 07:10.17 | jordin | musasabi, apt? |
| 07:10.43 | jordin | ueno na cohon,e nu se que le habra pasao al canal |
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| 07:12.17 | musasabi | jordin: how would I use apt in that situation? I cannot really chroot there as it has a foreign architecture and I don't think I can tell apt to use /foo/bar as filesystem root. |
| 07:12.29 | knt | what's the function of libraries under /usr/lib/gconv? which ones are necessary? |
| 07:12.31 | alex_ez | musasabi: use alien... apt-get install alien |
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| 07:13.24 | jordin | alien is for convert packages rpm to deb or urpmi to .deb no? |
| 07:13.31 | jordin | mmm |
| 07:13.31 | jm_ | knt: iconv conversion modules |
| 07:13.44 | alex_ez | jordin: not only rpm... ; |
| 07:13.45 | alex_ez | ;) |
| 07:13.47 | knt | jm_, thanks. |
| 07:14.10 | musasabi | alex_ez: with --to-tgz ? |
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| 07:14.43 | alex_ez | musasabi: just alien mypkg.rpm mypkg.deb |
| 07:14.58 | musasabi | Is that any different from dpkg -X, (I am interested in getting the postinstall scripts right) |
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| 07:15.26 | alex_ez | musasabi: what format you need? |
| 07:15.37 | alex_ez | which? |
| 07:15.47 | musasabi | alex_ez: I have mypkg.deb and am running debian. I want to install it for the debian system mounted on /foo/bar, but I cannot chroot there (different architecture). |
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| 07:18.43 | monkey- | has the debian secuity deb url changed? I cant find a reference that it has, but http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main doesn't seem to work at all |
| 07:19.16 | jm_ | run apt-setup ... |
| 07:19.23 | monkey- | I did |
| 07:19.32 | jm_ | it generates valid entries |
| 07:19.37 | monkey- | security.debin gets a 404 error |
| 07:19.54 | jm_ | no it doesn't |
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| 07:20.19 | monkey- | Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Packages |
| 07:20.19 | monkey- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.23 | monkey- | yes |
| 07:20.36 | monkey- | this is what apt-setup generated |
| 07:20.41 | jm_ | no: |
| 07:20.41 | jm_ | Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Release |
| 07:20.47 | jm_ | and so on for three more entries |
| 07:20.58 | jm_ | actually 4 |
| 07:21.28 | monkey- | *runs apt-setup again* |
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| 07:23.18 | floppyears | hi |
| 07:23.40 | alex_ez | musasabi: hmm... try: chmod +x mypkg.deb; ./mypkg.deb |
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| 07:24.14 | floppyears | I have a ps file is there any way that I can copy the text in it or select it somehow so that I can copy it ? |
| 07:24.45 | jm_ | never heard of pstotext? |
| 07:25.11 | alex_ez | floppyears: text from ps ? |
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| 07:25.33 | monkey- | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main <-- that is the line that apt-setup generates and it causes this error --> Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages |
| 07:25.34 | monkey- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.46 | monkey- | all other apt urls work, just not the secuirty one |
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| 07:26.02 | alex_ez | look at your fw |
| 07:26.26 | monkey- | yet my other apt sources work fine |
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| 07:27.02 | floppyears | jm_: thanks |
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| 07:27.31 | jm_ | monkey-: for the last time, it works fine |
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| 07:28.19 | foo | I currently dual boot on my laptop with windows and mandrake 10.1 I want debian sarge, though. Can I install debian sarge *only* over the mandrake installatio and keep windows? |
| 07:29.00 | Guerin | foo: sure |
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| 07:29.19 | foo | Boot manager will recognize windows and everything? I currently use lilo ..debian uses grub? I forget |
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| 07:30.09 | Fleck | hey is there some1 who uses krusader? |
| 07:30.13 | monkey- | jm_, Would you like a screen dump of it now? Saying "for the last time" doesn't make it work magically... |
| 07:30.41 | postel | foo: boot with the install media and when the time comes point it to the mandrake partition, it would writ eover it |
| 07:30.57 | tarzeau | foo: they don't recognize OPENSTEP, but windows should be fine |
| 07:31.10 | alex_ez | foo: debian you or lilo, either grub |
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| 07:31.52 | postel | foo: you can have lilo with debian, boot with media, edit the config. /sbin/lilo and you're done |
| 07:32.00 | liable | was I the only one that didnt make sense for? |
| 07:32.31 | alex_ez | foo: debian use... |
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| 07:34.16 | jm_ | monkey-: funny how it works for everyone but you, and you insist there's a problem with the host |
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| 07:36.32 | xonic | if i have seperate partitions like /home /usr et al, and i accidentally run soemthing like shred /dev/hda (all the partitions are on hda), and i still need to access my /home partition, will they be erased (assuming that I hit CTRL-C at 7 percent once I realized that I wanted to erase /dev/hdb instead) |
| 07:36.53 | jm_ | xonic: maybe, try recovering using gpart |
| 07:36.56 | monkey- | jm_, I am not insisting at all, I pasted the error here and asked for some help. apt-setup, as you suggested, did not fix anything |
| 07:37.18 | jm_ | monkey-: the host works, you have to look on your side for issues |
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| 07:37.48 | xonic | jm_: well, i rebooted and it said 'no operating system found', does Linux store partition information in the MBR or is it somehow stored across the disk? (the filesystem was ReiserFS) |
| 07:38.08 | jm_ | xonic: MBR keeps data for primary partitions |
| 07:38.28 | xonic | hmn, crap |
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| 07:39.10 | xonic | i suppose this is one of those tough-luck mistakes i will have to learn from.. |
| 07:39.19 | liable | xonic: try gpart as jm_ suggested, it can guess and rewrite your partition table (hopefully :) |
| 07:39.26 | jm_ | no, you can find "lost" partitions with gpart |
| 07:39.43 | jm_ | otherwise you can always try to find it manually and modify partition table by hand |
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| 07:40.09 | xonic | sigh.. all my mp3's .... :( |
| 07:40.22 | liable | ouch.. |
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| 07:40.40 | xonic | ah well, it's just data.. theres plenty of data kickin' around.. i will find more |
| 07:40.44 | xonic | :) |
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| 07:41.25 | Guerin | xonic: see, if you'd shared them all on freenet, you'd be able to get them all back |
| 07:41.50 | Zta | Right. I've made some sort of a package, and during installation I cat an extension to /etc/modules, and during removal I want to remove this extension from /etc/modules again. Is there a smart way of doing this? =) |
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| 07:42.10 | Zta | I can see that files like /etc/inetd.conf are full of tags. |
| 07:42.17 | jm_ | Zta: why not rely on modules.conf/modprobe.d? |
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| 07:42.29 | xonic | freenet eh? i've never heard of that |
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| 07:43.14 | Zta | jm, You're right. But.. I'm working on an old linux 2.4 system. Does it have this too? |
| 07:43.30 | jm_ | Zta: modules.conf is for 2.4 (man update-modules) |
| 07:43.39 | Zta | It's a module-init-tools issue, right? |
| 07:43.57 | jm_ | no, module-init-tools uses modprobe.d |
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| 07:47.07 | Zta | Um, so I can't use any /etc/modproble.d/* ? |
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| 07:47.40 | monkey- | If I can wget the Packages.gz file that apt-get update claims is not there, what are the possible things to look into? |
| 07:47.57 | Zta | I could make my own /etc/modprobe.d/ dir and have /etc/init.d/S15modules build the /etc/modules from these text files. |
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| 07:48.40 | unruled | can anyone help me on how to install .deb files? |
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| 07:48.49 | unruled | =/ n00b =( |
| 07:49.44 | Guerin | !faq unruled |
| 07:49.46 | dpkg | unruled: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 07:49.47 | liable | !smart questions |
| 07:49.47 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with computer experts. |
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| 07:50.08 | Guerin | unruled: aptitude install <packagename> |
| 07:50.23 | TwistedEmotions | if you accidentally install-grub <wrongdrive> is there a uninstall function? |
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| 07:50.32 | unruled | thanks =) |
| 07:50.42 | TK-1 | Netsplit Detected irc.freenode.net from: zelazny.freenode.net |
| 07:50.42 | liable | TwistedEmotions: no, you have to overwrite it. |
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| 07:51.46 | TwistedEmotions | ;P |
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| 07:51.46 | TwistedEmotions | What was that comment? |
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| 08:07.58 | zimnyx | zOap: yep i am command guy, but i can't use some apps without mouse there. |
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| 08:08.15 | zOap | lilo, what about my nine oclock irc date???? :D |
| 08:08.26 | zOap | ok |
| 08:08.27 | zimnyx | zOap: btw, remote desktop can be run via ssh, so what's the difference |
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| 08:08.39 | zOap | bandwith |
| 08:09.00 | zOap | offcourse:) |
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| 08:11.53 | Gumby | woohoo |
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| 08:12.10 | jim | mmhmm |
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| 08:14.22 | liable | weeee |
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| 08:17.11 | TwistedEmotions | Weee ;) |
| 08:17.16 | liable | hah |
| 08:17.18 | TwistedEmotions | Im back. |
| 08:17.22 | zOap | yeah, somewhat interesting.. It seems I'm the only one not being tossed off yet:) |
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| 08:17.38 | TwistedEmotions | zOap: you never got kicked? |
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| 08:17.57 | zOap | TwistedEmotions, nope, been here and seen you guys in and out like a rollercoaster:) |
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| 08:18.09 | liable | TwistedEmotions: wtf did you mean by I fux0red #debian? |
| 08:18.43 | TwistedEmotions | liable: you are OBVIOUSLY the reason for the netsplit.. |
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| 08:18.55 | liable | !fuck TwistedEmotions |
| 08:19.03 | liable | :P |
| 08:19.07 | TwistedEmotions | liable: ;) I love you. |
| 08:19.10 | liable | good timing that :) |
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| 08:19.26 | ColonelKernel | !Kp |
| 08:19.26 | dpkg | kp is probably To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 08:19.34 | TwistedEmotions | Damn.. What are the chances after a netsplit like that the !bot still works? |
| 08:19.39 | oskie | what package do you need to put a laptop in suspend mode using ACPI? |
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| 08:20.15 | zOap | dunno |
| 08:20.17 | TwistedEmotions | oskie: apmd? |
| 08:20.19 | zOap | !bot |
| 08:20.19 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 08:20.28 | zOap | yeah |
| 08:20.33 | oskie | TwistedEmotions: apm!=acpi ... apm is deprecated in favor of acpi.. |
| 08:20.35 | liable | oskie: um, just echo 3 >> proc something or other |
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| 08:20.49 | silensius | error in kde kontrol center : /usr/lib/libkfontinst.so.0: undefined symbol how to resolve this ? |
| 08:20.54 | liable | oskie: cant remember :) |
| 08:20.56 | TwistedEmotions | oskie: Err... sleepd should work..? |
| 08:20.58 | oskie | liable: hmm yes i wonder which tho... |
| 08:21.23 | TwistedEmotions | acpi - displays information on ACPI devices |
| 08:21.23 | TwistedEmotions | acpid - Utilities for using ACPI power management |
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| 08:21.53 | TwistedEmotions | oskie: tried those two? |
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| 08:22.10 | oskie | TwistedEmotions: got those two installed |
| 08:22.17 | liable | oskie: its fairly easy to find on google, which I cant be bothered doing for you :) |
| 08:22.20 | TwistedEmotions | oskie: ;( Sorry then... |
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| 08:22.59 | oskie | hm.. echo standby/mem/disk >/sys/power/state |
| 08:23.37 | liable | um, thats not the one I was thinking of.. but hey, try it :) |
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| 08:23.51 | liable | that looks like suspend to me. |
| 08:23.52 | TwistedEmotions | Wonder if I reconnect if it will let me back in... |
| 08:24.03 | liable | try it! |
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| 08:24.14 | TwistedEmotions | liable: ;P |
| 08:24.15 | J-Ph | i get XPareGeometry errors at "make" time |
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| 08:24.26 | J-Ph | (after successfully configure amule) |
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| 08:24.52 | liable | whats the prefix to usernames, anyone? |
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| 08:25.01 | liable | in here at the moment. |
| 08:25.25 | liable | like N or I |
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| 08:28.32 | TwistedEmotions | Wow.. |
| 08:28.35 | TwistedEmotions | that sucked. |
| 08:28.41 | TwistedEmotions | aww shit.. |
| 08:28.44 | TwistedEmotions | 6 people. |
| 08:28.48 | TwistedEmotions | great. |
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| 08:28.54 | TwistedEmotions | !fuck |
| 08:28.55 | dpkg | [fuck] a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
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| 08:29.08 | TwistedEmotions | liable: Can you real this? |
| 08:29.16 | TwistedEmotions | *read |
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| 08:29.24 | liable | TwistedEmotions: hehe we are 2 of 7 in debian.. |
| 08:29.33 | TwistedEmotions | We RULE! |
| 08:29.41 | TwistedEmotions | !slap liable |
| 08:29.50 | liable | hah, give me ops, i'll kick your ass! |
| 08:29.55 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha |
| 08:29.59 | TwistedEmotions | I dont have ops ;( |
| 08:30.29 | TwistedEmotions | this is kinda pimp... like messaging.. but in public room. |
| 08:30.29 | liable | thank fuck for that :) |
| 08:30.29 | liable | hehe |
| 08:30.33 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha |
| 08:30.48 | TwistedEmotions | Are you implying that I would be a bad op? |
| 08:31.01 | liable | no, never, a crazy op! |
| 08:31.16 | TwistedEmotions | A quick kick of you and me and the room would be in control. |
| 08:31.24 | TwistedEmotions | WTF happened to everyone? |
| 08:31.38 | liable | dunno, I started lagging, so reconnected.. |
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| 08:31.45 | TwistedEmotions | Awww.. |
| 08:31.50 | TwistedEmotions | this sucks... |
| 08:31.53 | TwistedEmotions | 2/9 |
| 08:31.56 | TwistedEmotions | Weee... 8 |
| 08:32.00 | liable | here they come |
| 08:32.11 | liable | maybe.. |
| 08:32.13 | TwistedEmotions | haha.. no I think that was the end of the rush.. |
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| 08:32.24 | TwistedEmotions | awww.. spoke too soon. |
| 08:32.30 | TwistedEmotions | That's the end. |
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| 08:32.45 | liable | hah, what the fuck is going on. |
| 08:32.59 | TwistedEmotions | ? |
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| 08:33.04 | liable | they must be getting booted to overflow |
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| 08:33.09 | TwistedEmotions | People went to #knoppix? |
| 08:33.17 | liable | eh? |
| 08:33.24 | TwistedEmotions | Ohhh nooo! |
| 08:33.27 | TwistedEmotions | #windows! |
| 08:33.38 | liable | be the fullest knoppix has ever been.. |
| 08:33.46 | TwistedEmotions | true.. |
| 08:33.48 | liable | !annoy TwistedEmotions |
| 08:33.55 | liable | grrr |
| 08:33.56 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha bot got kicked |
| 08:34.09 | TwistedEmotions | or sleeping on the job it would seem ;) |
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| 08:34.10 | liable | when? |
| 08:34.15 | TwistedEmotions | just kidding |
| 08:34.17 | TwistedEmotions | it's here |
| 08:34.20 | liable | \!irritate TwistedEmotions |
| 08:34.23 | TwistedEmotions | just not alive |
| 08:34.27 | liable | !irritate TwistedEmotions |
| 08:34.28 | dpkg | TwistedEmotions: wenas where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol !!!! |
| 08:34.36 | TwistedEmotions | ohh ;) |
| 08:34.39 | TwistedEmotions | Good |
| 08:34.43 | liable | nah, just me being a tard.. |
| 08:34.47 | toresbe | is this really freenode Debian? |
| 08:34.55 | TwistedEmotions | toresbe: netsplit... |
| 08:34.56 | liable | dunno |
| 08:35.03 | TwistedEmotions | ohh... |
| 08:35.04 | toresbe | 10:34 -!- Irssi: #debian: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] |
| 08:35.08 | TwistedEmotions | you mean is this the REAL one? |
| 08:35.14 | TwistedEmotions | I hope so.. |
| 08:35.14 | toresbe | yeah |
| 08:35.15 | liable | yeah it is, weird server shits going on.. |
| 08:35.23 | toresbe | yeah |
| 08:35.24 | TwistedEmotions | otherwise were dumb for sitting here. |
| 08:35.29 | TwistedEmotions | well. |
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| 08:35.39 | toresbe | 10:07 [freenode2] -lilo(I=lilo@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Global Notice] Life will be....exciting.... for a bit |
| 08:35.39 | TwistedEmotions | Wee.. |
| 08:35.44 | TwistedEmotions | it's the REAL ONE :) |
| 08:35.55 | TwistedEmotions | Damn... we were 2/7 |
| 08:35.59 | TwistedEmotions | We ruled.. |
| 08:36.02 | TwistedEmotions | Felt good. |
| 08:36.06 | liable | haha |
| 08:36.19 | TwistedEmotions | hell even 3/11 was good. |
| 08:36.39 | pepsi | liable, identd or not |
| 08:36.49 | liable | pepsi: ahh |
| 08:36.52 | TwistedEmotions | brb.. gonna get some food.. dont leave guys ;) |
| 08:37.24 | liable | hmm, no nickserv... |
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| 08:38.36 | deadcat | what the bloody hell did you lads do to #debian? |
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| 08:38.56 | Nigel | deadcat: freenode... |
| 08:38.59 | deadcat | ah |
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| 08:39.13 | Nigel | god, these changes are MAD |
| 08:39.17 | Kizmet | lol |
| 08:39.23 | Kizmet | chat are they doing now ? |
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| 08:39.37 | toresbe | webstreams are fun |
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| 08:40.16 | liable | deadcat: hehe, me and TwistedEmotions were two out of seven in here.. |
| 08:40.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | lol |
| 08:40.28 | liable | deadcat: and three were bots! |
| 08:40.39 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: we RULED WITH A IRON FIST! |
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| 08:40.51 | liable | !fist TwistedEmotions |
| 08:40.59 | jim | we fisted with an iron rule? |
| 08:41.13 | TwistedEmotions | Wow.. Im not that kinda whore ;) |
| 08:41.20 | liable | heh |
| 08:41.35 | deadcat | liable: i /quit (= |
| 08:41.40 | liable | how can you ident without nickserv? |
| 08:41.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: haha. now i am coming back to take back what was mine again |
| 08:42.03 | deadcat | liable: i dont know. it just works |
| 08:42.22 | liable | deadcat: but your not are you? |
| 08:42.22 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Are you challenging me? |
| 08:42.34 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you are soooo on the list now.. add yourself. |
| 08:42.41 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am calling you a yellow belly. |
| 08:42.46 | deadcat | (= |
| 08:42.47 | liable | deadcat: see the prefix to usernames? |
| 08:42.55 | liable | N or I |
| 08:43.14 | deadcat | liable: no. i dont get it. |
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| 08:43.20 | deadcat | ah |
| 08:43.45 | deadcat | like Maulkin here has I= |
| 08:43.49 | liable | yep.. |
| 08:43.56 | Maulkin | ? |
| 08:44.08 | liable | Maulkin: are you identified? |
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| 08:45.02 | Maulkin | Nope, nickserv isn't around yet. |
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| 08:45.08 | Maulkin | (by the looks of things anyway) |
| 08:45.14 | liable | SimonRaven: maybe you know, whats the prefix I or N to user names? |
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| 08:45.40 | deadcat | i told nickserv to take a 15min break |
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| 08:45.51 | Maulkin | Oh, prehaps I am. It's +i |
| 08:45.51 | Nigel | liable: I= identd, N=no-identd |
| 08:46.01 | SimonRaven | liable: see #freenode |
| 08:46.29 | liable | Nigel: but no nickserv.. |
| 08:46.50 | Nigel | liable: identd is different from nickserv |
| 08:47.11 | liable | ohh, how so? |
| 08:47.43 | Nigel | hmmmm, google identd |
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| 08:48.03 | Nigel | it's a little proggy that runs on port 113 |
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| 08:48.16 | liable | SimonRaven: I would think #freenode is pretty hectic at the moment, not much chance of voice for me :) |
| 08:48.23 | liable | Nigel: ok, thanks |
| 08:48.37 | Nigel | ./msg dpkg identd |
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| 08:49.52 | xinming | anyone here can tell me why will I be kicked? :-S |
| 08:50.15 | liable | in overflow? for idling. |
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| 08:52.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | how can you rename all the files in a folder from upercase to lowercase? |
| 08:53.14 | deadcat | Kamping_Kaiser: rename, its a directory. NOT folder |
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| 08:53.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | deadcat: sorry :( |
| 08:53.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | I'm still using doze wording sometimes :) |
| 08:54.07 | deadcat | Kamping_Kaiser: you can still use "folder," just dont do it when using linux |
| 08:54.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | *hangs head* |
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| 08:55.50 | PoPnow | what's the best way to change the whole host name on a debian box? |
| 08:55.56 | liable | Kamping_Kaiser: try #bash :) |
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| 08:56.11 | sep | !hostname |
| 08:56.11 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist |
| 08:56.13 | deadcat | PoPnow: /etc/hostname |
| 08:56.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | thanks liable I'll give it a go :) |
| 08:56.26 | sep | PoPnow, dont foget to check /etc/hosts, /etc/mailname also |
| 08:57.08 | hoe | Kamping_Kaiser: you can just execute sth like `perl -e '@files=`ls -1 /path`; while (@files) do {pop(lc($files))};' dunno if it works, it's been a while since I wrote my lsat perl script |
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| 08:57.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | hoe: thankjs I'll try it |
| 08:57.39 | golly | anyone got suggestions on an IRC channel where i can find out about mdamd raid? |
| 08:57.56 | golly | sorry mdadm |
| 08:58.02 | cHeap | google for example :) |
| 08:58.12 | golly | cHeap: yeah? |
| 08:58.22 | cHeap | joke :) |
| 08:58.22 | deadcat | golly: yeah |
| 08:58.25 | sep | golly, if you want to "find out" abot it you should start with the documentation, irc channels is usualy not for going introduction courses |
| 08:58.27 | liable | golly: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-adv/raid.htm dunno if you seen it.. |
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| 08:59.06 | golly | liable: yeah seen it. I got a few recover q's for the experienced. |
| 08:59.52 | PoPnow | sep: I don't use that box for mail :-) but anything I need to do if I use samba? |
| 09:00.09 | liable | golly: ok, thats not me :) |
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| 09:00.15 | deadcat | PoPnow: server? samba, client? smbclient |
| 09:00.45 | sep | PoPnow, you want to check that name if you change the hostname, and a unix box allways use mail if nothing else to alert root about errors or events |
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| 09:01.06 | deadcat | damn my machine CANT multi-task at all. i am compiling a kernel and firefox is NOT comming up... like 30secs already |
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| 09:01.18 | PoPnow | deadcat: samba server |
| 09:01.20 | sep | PoPnow, for samba you read /etc/samba/smb.conf, and you read /usr/share/doc/samba* files |
| 09:01.29 | dimir | Morning. |
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| 09:01.36 | jonaskoe1ker | question: where can I find a good explanation of main/contrib/non-free and stable/testing/unstable? |
| 09:01.59 | sep | golly, if it's a debian box, just as in here |
| 09:02.03 | jonaskoe1ker | sorta' like the one on debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 09:02.10 | jonaskoe1ker | but preferably more in-depth |
| 09:02.30 | golly | sep : it's debian based, but not pure.....Mepis to be exact |
| 09:02.46 | sep | golly, then ask in #mepis perhaps ? |
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| 09:03.21 | golly | sep : be there....a bunch of enthusiasts but not raid experts......wuill be a long serch methinks. |
| 09:03.24 | sep | isn't that like knoppix ? livecd thing? you run mdadm on several cd's ? :) |
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| 09:03.51 | golly | sep: mepis does have a live cd version......just easier to install to HDD when you want |
| 09:03.58 | PNG | hello, I need to add ftp account to my server, I want an easy package to install, any tips? |
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| 09:04.16 | jonaskoe1ker | question 2: iirc, there's a debconf (i.e. user-friendly-dialog-'ish) tool for setting up /etc/apt/sources.list--what's the (package|executable) name? |
| 09:04.17 | deadcat | PNG: wu-ftpd is easy |
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| 09:04.22 | sep | PNG aptitude search ftp |
| 09:04.31 | sep | golly, i see |
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| 09:04.49 | sep | jonaskoe1ker, apt-setup |
| 09:04.55 | jonaskoe1ker | ahh... |
| 09:04.58 | PNG | sep: I need an "EASY" one.. |
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| 09:05.12 | PNG | and good one too.. |
| 09:05.14 | deadcat | sep: use windows |
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| 09:05.19 | deadcat | PNG: ^^ |
| 09:05.25 | sep | deadcat, ??? |
| 09:05.27 | sep | oh |
| 09:05.34 | deadcat | sep: sorry about that (= |
| 09:05.43 | jonaskoe1ker | sep (or anyone else): package name? |
| 09:05.50 | golly | png : you want a client or a server? |
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| 09:06.12 | deadcat | jonaskoe1ker: apt-setup |
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| 09:06.43 | PNG | golly: I need to install it as a server on my machine |
| 09:07.02 | deadcat | PNG: apt-cache search ftp |
| 09:07.08 | golly | PNG: what version of debian are you on? |
| 09:07.15 | PNG | woody |
| 09:07.27 | hoe | is there a way to enable (radeon|vesa)fb on debian precompiled kernel (2.6.8-2@sarge stable), since simply adding video=radeonfb:1024x768@100, or do I need to recompile with radeonfb compiled in /not as a module/? |
| 09:07.33 | jonaskoe1ker | hm: apt-get install apt-setup \n Read pkg list \n build dep tree \n E: Couldn't find package apt-setup |
| 09:07.49 | jonaskoe1ker | .. I got ftp.debian.org/ main stable & testing |
| 09:07.54 | deadcat | hoe: video=.... will/should work |
| 09:07.57 | golly | png : what package manager you use? |
| 09:08.12 | deadcat | hoe: grep -i radeon /boot/config-`uname -r` |
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| 09:08.24 | deadcat | golly: you a moron too? |
| 09:08.25 | PNG | golly: apt-get |
| 09:08.27 | liable | jonaskoe1ker: you should have it already. |
| 09:08.41 | jonaskoe1ker | $ locate apt-setup \n $ |
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| 09:09.08 | jonaskoe1ker | s/$/#/ at that |
| 09:09.11 | PNG | so? |
| 09:09.12 | golly | png : cool..try here http://www.projektfarm.com/en/support/debian_setup/ |
| 09:09.16 | liable | jonaskoe1ker: just run it. |
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| 09:09.22 | liable | jonaskoe1ker: as root |
| 09:09.23 | PNG | golly: I need just apt-get it |
| 09:09.27 | jonaskoe1ker | command not found :( |
| 09:09.27 | PNG | damn |
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| 09:09.44 | deadcat | PNG: search for ftp server you stupid fuck |
| 09:09.54 | PNG | deadcat: I need a fucking easy one |
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| 09:10.00 | deadcat | hahah. moron talking to another moron. |
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| 09:10.18 | liable | jonaskoe1ker: are you using debian? |
| 09:10.22 | deadcat | PNG: easiest is wu-ftp.. i told you already |
| 09:10.24 | jonaskoe1ker | yes (!!) |
| 09:10.33 | liable | !find apt-setup |
| 09:10.41 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'apt-setup' (2): (/usr/sbin/apt-setup, /usr/lib/base-config/menu/{apt-setup|apt-setup.mnu}) in base/base-config ;; (/usr/share/debian-cd/data/woody/apt-setup.html.in, /usr/share/debian-cd/data/potato/apt-setup.html.in) in admin/debian-cd. |
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| 09:11.01 | golly | png : then apt-get proftpd or vsftp up to you.... |
| 09:11.03 | deadcat | PNG: or better, ftpd |
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| 09:11.08 | liable | jonaskoelker: you should have base-config.. |
| 09:11.19 | jonaskoelker | didn't have, apt-getting it as we speak |
| 09:11.27 | jonaskoelker | :O |
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| 09:11.36 | jonaskoelker | and wow, apt-setup is there :) |
| 09:11.44 | jonaskoelker | thanks all |
| 09:11.46 | deadcat | PNG: you want one of us to install it for you? is that easy enough for ya? |
| 09:11.48 | jim | how would you not have base-config>? |
| 09:11.51 | PNG | how to config proftpd, i installed it before but couldnt config |
| 09:12.02 | liable | jim: good question.. |
| 09:12.03 | jonaskoelker | dunno... may have deleted it, for some stupid reason |
| 09:12.13 | deadcat | PNG: proftpd is NOT easy |
| 09:12.15 | golly | png : do a man proftpd and rtfm |
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| 09:12.29 | deadcat | PNG: ^^ basically he dosnt know |
| 09:12.53 | jim | deleted? just so you know... you should never remove anything controlled by a package |
| 09:12.58 | golly | deadcat: nope....never used it |
| 09:13.17 | golly | deadcat: thought I'd be smarmy chump |
| 09:13.22 | jonaskoelker | s/deleted/uninstalled/ |
| 09:13.27 | deadcat | golly: you at the right place (= |
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| 09:13.29 | zOap | my laptop turns off when I close it. How can I make it not? |
| 09:13.29 | jonaskoelker | w. some package manager |
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| 09:13.36 | jonaskoelker | (synaptic, most likely) |
| 09:13.42 | deadcat | zOap: what laptop |
| 09:13.42 | liable | zOap: apm or acpi? |
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| 09:14.45 | zOap | liable, it's a Elitegroup... apm acpi? how can i tell? |
| 09:14.45 | liable | zOap: bios I would think, otherwise you would have known the hell to get it to actually do that :) |
| 09:14.46 | deadcat | golly: dont /msg me. read /topic |
| 09:14.58 | golly | read /topic? why? |
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| 09:14.58 | PNG | how to remove a package i dont need with apt? |
| 09:15.00 | zOap | liable, the thing is, in kernel 2.6.8 it does not. But in 2.4.27 it turns off... So... |
| 09:15.06 | liable | golly: if you had read it, you would know.. |
| 09:15.17 | deadcat | golly: /msg bots NOT people |
| 09:15.19 | jim | PNG: man apt-get |
| 09:15.27 | aubergine | png: apt-get remove packet |
| 09:15.28 | deadcat | PNG: you are one lazy fuck |
| 09:15.45 | PNG | deadcat fuck u :) |
| 09:15.47 | golly | mmkay |
| 09:15.48 | liable | zOap: apm I think, which is bios controlled. |
| 09:15.49 | PNG | jim u too :) |
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| 09:15.55 | deadcat | PNG: bring it bitch! (= |
| 09:15.56 | golly | png vs deadcat smackdown |
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| 09:16.08 | zOap | liable, ok, I'll check into it.. apmd I guess then? |
| 09:16.09 | golly | png just left |
| 09:16.21 | deadcat | golly: hes a fucking pussy. |
| 09:16.25 | liable | zOap: yeah me thinks, dpkg -l apmd |
| 09:16.34 | golly | deadcat: heh |
| 09:16.43 | liable | zOap: I cant remember if apm is enabled in 2.6 |
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| 09:17.07 | jim | what's N= and I=? |
| 09:17.21 | rhowe | The ${var//FOO/BAR} substitution is a bash-ism, no? |
| 09:17.27 | liable | jim: apparently identd or not. |
| 09:17.48 | jm__ | rhowe: zsh knows that too |
| 09:17.50 | deadcat | rhowe: whats //? ive seen ## and %%, not // |
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| 09:18.04 | rhowe | deadcat: replace all instances of FOO in $var with BAR |
| 09:18.12 | deadcat | rhowe: nice |
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| 09:18.15 | rhowe | jm__: OK, but sh shouldn't be expected to grok it? |
| 09:18.29 | jim | autoop? |
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| 09:18.33 | jm__ | rhowe: doesn't look like it |
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| 09:18.46 | rhowe | jm__: Then why, pray tell, does zgrep contain "i=${i//\\/\\\\}" on line 103, yet begin #!/bin/sh? :) |
| 09:19.41 | jm__ | rhowe: mine doesn't |
| 09:19.48 | rhowe | jm__: Debian stable |
| 09:20.22 | jm__ | rhowe: let me check another system, mine's not quite up-to-date |
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| 09:20.53 | rhowe | jm__: OK.. grep 2.5.1.ds1-4 seems to be afflicted, at least |
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| 09:21.24 | rhowe | grep in unstable has this instead: i=$(echo "$i" | sed -e 's/[\\|&]/\\&/g') |
| 09:21.53 | jim | confirmed... my zgrep is the same |
| 09:22.00 | jm__ | rhowe: that's how it looks here too |
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| 09:22.44 | knt | when i try to chroot to fs directory, it complains about "`/bin/sh': No such file or directory". but i'm sure fs/bin/bash exists. what could be the problem? |
| 09:23.10 | deadcat | knt: chroot /fs /bin/bash ? |
| 09:23.15 | liable | knt: did you do mount -a? |
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| 09:24.23 | knt | deadcat, it doesn't work when i give the full path too. |
| 09:24.30 | deadcat | knt: dang |
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| 09:24.34 | knt | liable, it's a local directory. mount what? |
| 09:24.54 | knt | liable, if you'd ask, i mounted proc/dev/tmpfs |
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| 09:25.50 | knt | deefzi, any other ideas? |
| 09:25.53 | rhowe | hm.. I wonder if it's been reported and fixed already though, since unstable seems to be fine |
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| 09:25.54 | knt | oops. |
| 09:25.56 | marccd | Debconf tells me that The above is not true of Linux kernel version 2.6 (nor of the 2.5 series after the "O(1) scheduler" was included); │ |
| 09:26.05 | knt | deadcat, any other ideas? |
| 09:26.14 | marccd | I am sorry, it tells me that I should set X's nice to 0, is this true on 2.6? |
| 09:26.23 | marccd | I have it at -10, and running 2.6 |
| 09:26.26 | saloxin | knt: I came late to this. what is your problem? |
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| 09:27.51 | jm__ | rhowe: surprise surprise -- 314211 |
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| 09:28.11 | knt | saloxin, ok dk. fixed. thanks for your interest. |
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| 09:28.47 | marccd | What does ^ mean, shift? |
| 09:28.50 | marccd | in bash |
| 09:29.00 | saloxin | marccd: ctrl |
| 09:29.06 | marccd | saloxin: ah |
| 09:29.09 | jim | depends on context |
| 09:29.19 | fonebone | Does anyone here use DirectVNC and if so do they find it less of a resource hog than XRealVNC on X? |
| 09:29.21 | jim | show the whole thing |
| 09:29.32 | marccd | I still have a question, does X's nice matter in 2.6 kernels' |
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| 09:30.32 | rhowe | jm__: ta :) I was looking for that |
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| 09:35.09 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ;) Trying to get reconnected properly? |
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| 09:36.30 | knt | i've a testing debian-fork in my /dev/hdb1. is it possible to run it by using a program/emulator, like re-starting computer and chosing /dev/hdb1 as first boot device? |
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| 09:38.06 | floppyears | knt: you are probably looking for something like vmware or something similar |
| 09:38.20 | knt | floppyears, any OSS alternative? |
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| 09:39.03 | jm_ | knt: xen, qemu, ... |
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| 09:39.59 | knt | jm_, thanks. |
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| 09:40.26 | hoopdreams | Does anyone here use DirectVNC and if so do they find it to be less of a resource hog than xrealvnc on x? |
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| 09:41.20 | nostradam | Guys: building a mailserver. what partition type should I give / and /var..? |
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| 09:41.40 | nostradam | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:43.15 | Valen | got me a problem |
| 09:43.26 | Valen | attempting to install libncurses5-devel |
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| 09:43.42 | Fleck | help i can't install kdelibs4-dev because of libfam0 - libfam0 whant's to remove ALL KDE packages ;( |
| 09:43.45 | s00tsup | I have a problem like that |
| 09:43.56 | Fleck | but i need kdelibs for compiling apps |
| 09:43.56 | s00tsup | with libncurses5-dev |
| 09:44.00 | Valen | i get an error "depends libncurses5 (= 5.4-4) but 5.4-9 is to be installed |
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| 09:44.17 | s00tsup | I cant even install it |
| 09:44.23 | Valen | " |
| 09:44.31 | sep | Valen, devel are you sure it's called -dev ususaly |
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| 09:44.38 | floppyears | nostradam: I don't think that the partition type matters. I believe that the size matters more in your case |
| 09:44.38 | Valen | yeah sotty |
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| 09:45.02 | Valen | i tried update, all is well |
| 09:45.11 | Valen | i tried -f and no joy |
| 09:45.19 | Valen | same error |
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| 09:45.54 | sep | Valen, sarge etch or sid? ?= |
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| 09:46.07 | Valen | sarge i believe, latest stable |
| 09:46.08 | Fleck | anyone? |
| 09:46.10 | Valen | 3.1a |
| 09:46.14 | stouset | TwistedEmotions: Made it in, I see! |
| 09:46.24 | Valen | had a hell of a time just getting this far |
| 09:46.26 | stouset | TwistedEmotions: What about or poisoned chocolate duck empire? |
| 09:46.26 | nostradam | thanks floppyears |
| 09:46.39 | sep | Valen, try install libncurses5-dev |
| 09:46.47 | Valen | i did |
| 09:46.50 | Xteven | hello, who can I talk to about kerberos cross-realm stuff ? (#kerberos is almost empty, #heimdal does not exist) |
| 09:46.54 | Valen | thats when i have that error |
| 09:46.56 | TwistedEmotions | stouset: ;( All good things must come to an end ;P |
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| 09:47.04 | sep | 5.4.4 is the correct version, are you sure you dont have unofficial of mixed sources ? |
| 09:47.12 | stouset | TwistedEmotions: So what was the problem? That wasn't a particularly good idea. |
| 09:47.16 | Valen | i have nfi |
| 09:47.20 | stouset | TwistedEmotions: I would have expected it to last forever. |
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| 09:47.33 | TwistedEmotions | stouset: I though so too ;( |
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| 09:47.44 | sep | Valen, try commentig out that, update then install |
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| 09:47.48 | Valen | i installed off the cd then broke that somewhat when i had to DIY my own mkinitrd off the install cd |
| 09:47.53 | jm_ | hmm haven't noticed N= and I= shit before |
| 09:47.54 | Valen | comment out what? |
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| 09:48.08 | sep | Valen, what is nfi ? |
| 09:48.13 | SimonRaven | jm_: new stuff with hyperion |
| 09:48.15 | Valen | no "fine" idea |
| 09:48.26 | SimonRaven | no fucking idea |
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| 09:48.41 | Valen | learn me for being nice lol |
| 09:48.41 | sep | Valen, edit /etc/apt/source.list |
| 09:48.58 | sep | Valen, make sure you have only stable or sarge in there and only official sources. |
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| 09:49.18 | jm_ | SimonRaven: just reading about it |
| 09:49.21 | xerophyte | how can i type ^M in vim |
| 09:49.34 | SimonRaven | xerophyte: ^v^m |
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| 09:49.45 | sep | Valen, if you have no idea what im talking about, then you can , rm /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-setup , to make a new correct list |
| 09:49.46 | SimonRaven | or just ^m. what is it you want? |
| 09:50.02 | xerophyte | silensius, thx |
| 09:50.15 | Valen | i just set it all back to one mirror |
| 09:50.15 | xerophyte | SimonRaven, thx i want |
| 09:50.19 | Valen | (off isp) |
| 09:50.32 | Valen | it is alledgedly of stable |
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| 09:50.52 | sep | Valen, since 5.4.4 is in sarge (what yuou should have) but 5.4.9 is in sid |
| 09:50.56 | SimonRaven | oi, fugly when long |
| 09:50.56 | Valen | the last line is "E: Broken packages" |
| 09:51.18 | Valen | i am tempted to just try starting again |
| 09:51.36 | sep | Valen, try update and install then |
| 09:51.38 | Valen | i need to find a sample initrd.conf file though |
| 09:51.45 | Valen | sep, did, same error |
| 09:51.52 | sep | Valen, your isp's mirror is on the official mirrors list ? |
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| 09:52.24 | Valen | no, just to make sure i'll put it to official list |
| 09:52.25 | sep | Valen, i'd try to rm /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-setup to have a new correct sources list generated. |
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| 09:53.14 | Valen | i can edit the sources ok |
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| 09:53.27 | Valen | i have set it to an official server, one that comes in setup |
| 09:53.34 | Valen | apt-get update |
| 09:53.49 | Valen | apt-get install -f libncurses5-dev |
| 09:54.00 | Valen | no luck |
| 09:54.02 | sep | Valen, never use -f |
| 09:54.17 | Valen | no difference with or without it seems |
| 09:54.21 | sep | Valen, apt-get install libncurses5 libncurses-dev |
| 09:54.25 | PoPnow | will this remove everything that has to do with swat, like config files, password files and so on.. "apt-get remove swat --purge" |
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| 09:54.41 | sep | Valen, +5 |
| 09:55.02 | Valen | libncurses5 is latest version it says |
| 09:55.05 | Valen | then the same error |
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| 09:55.40 | SimonRaven | dpkg --audit; dpkg --configure --pending; dpkg --configure <package name> |
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| 09:56.33 | Valen | SimonRaven, me? |
| 09:56.34 | sep | Valen, dpkg -l libncurses5 what version you have installed |
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| 09:57.00 | dds | I've written a bunch of files to a portable MP3 player which represents itself as a vfat fs; unfortunately, the fat table was not written in alphanumerical sort order by the filemanager I used to do the copying (ROX). Anyone know of any utility I can use to rewrite the FAT for a directory in alphanumerical order? |
| 09:57.06 | Valen | 5.4-9 |
| 09:57.21 | sep | Valen, then your not running sarge |
| 09:57.29 | jm_ | dds: what's the point? |
| 09:57.31 | sep | Valen, you must set your sources to the release your running |
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| 09:57.44 | dds | you'd be amazed how hard it is to search for this on google or apt, given the prevalence of documentation for just accessing vfat filesystems. |
| 09:58.10 | sep | Valen, or you might have accidentaly grabbed some packages from a non sarge source ie your running a mixed release and have messed up |
| 09:58.14 | Valen | ok this be rooted i'll start again |
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| 09:58.24 | dds | jm_, well, the CD I moved over is the listening practice to a textbook which has 99 tracks (each particular section of a lesson broken down as fine as possible for repeating) but they are all in random order on the player. |
| 09:58.32 | Triffid_Hunter | dds: move all the files off it, then copy them back in alphabetical order? |
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| 09:58.36 | Valen | biggest problem i have in installing is there is an error in the mkinitrd script |
| 09:58.46 | Valen | it tells it to load a scsi module that dosent exist |
| 09:58.51 | dds | Triffid_Hunter, well, I could do that I guess, but it seems like this would be a common enough problem to have a utility. |
| 09:58.53 | Valen | for my scsi card |
| 09:59.01 | jm_ | dds: ahh I wrote sortmv.sh for that |
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| 09:59.04 | sep | Valen, you tried with 2.4 kernel or 2.6 kernel ? |
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| 09:59.09 | Valen | both |
| 09:59.12 | sep | Valen, booting cd with linux or linux26 |
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| 09:59.14 | sep | ohh |
| 09:59.24 | Valen | 2.6 dosent ship with the module at all |
| 09:59.32 | dds | jm_, yeah, that's a fine little thing to do.. I just vaguely recalling there being some utility for this in fBSD and I was thinking there would be something available. |
| 09:59.37 | Valen | i have been trying to do this for like 4 days now |
| 09:59.40 | sep | Valen, seriously ? what module/card |
| 09:59.44 | Valen | i am getting very frustrated |
| 09:59.51 | Valen | initio a100u2w |
| 09:59.55 | Valen | module name is a100u2w |
| 10:00.05 | Valen | bug is it tries to load inia100 |
| 10:00.28 | dds | the player is actually really slow to access even though it's USB2 (the emulation of an msdos filesystem is the problem as this little puppy has a shit processor) so I'm trying to avoid moving off and moving back |
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| 10:00.41 | jm_ | dds: I might need it too since mine doesn't work 100% correctly |
| 10:00.44 | dds | and also, simply for the future, I'd like to be able to drag a bunch of files over with ROX instead of always doing it form the command line |
| 10:00.57 | Valen | i can actually get around that if i make my own initrd while using the install cd |
| 10:01.11 | dds | optimally, this would be something the vfat kernel module would just handle, keeping the sort order in a directory to match standard UNIX sort order |
| 10:01.12 | dds | so |
| 10:01.16 | Valen | but last time i did that i didnt know what else to put in there apart from scsi and reiser |
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| 10:01.34 | Valen | i cant seem to find a default config file for it that has most things |
| 10:01.35 | Zap-W | anyone know a site with all commercial linux games |
| 10:01.41 | dds | the bottom line, though, is that nobody listening right now knows of a utility to do what I want? (and, if you're curious, no there is not a flag to mount to do it, either) |
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| 10:01.51 | Triffid_Hunter | dds: standard unix sort order isn't stored on disk.. its just that ls sorts by default |
| 10:01.57 | Valen | and i cant work out how to re-run what the installer does after i have fixed the line in mkinitrd |
| 10:01.59 | sep | Valen, so you adde your module to /etc/mkinitd/modules and made a new initrd ? |
| 10:02.04 | Valen | yes |
| 10:02.05 | dds | Triffid_Hunter, right, but sort order is stored on FAT is what I'm saying. |
| 10:02.16 | Valen | not bad for my first attempt at linux i hope |
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| 10:02.30 | dds | Triffid_Hunter, I'm not saying "the vfat module should do it like the ext2 one" but "the vfat module should make it look like the ext2 one" |
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| 10:02.59 | bjv | apt-get bandwidth limiting, is there something in can quickly implement that someone knows of? |
| 10:03.09 | sep | Valen, mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-kernelversion kernelversion |
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| 10:03.29 | Valen | i made another install cd with my own version of the .deb for mkinitd but it complained that it was the wrong size |
| 10:03.39 | Valen | oooh that may be handy |
| 10:03.45 | bjv | roomie is yelling, so im thinkin like something that can be done in ~2 mins :P |
| 10:03.46 | Valen | i'll blow this away and try that |
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| 10:03.50 | sep | Valen, look in /lib/modules for the kernelversion |
| 10:03.54 | sep | or in uname -a |
| 10:04.08 | bjv | what is the term for bandwidth limiting? |
| 10:04.11 | bjv | traffic shaping? |
| 10:04.15 | Valen | throttling |
| 10:04.17 | bjv | *searches on google* |
| 10:04.17 | sep | bjv, yes or qos |
| 10:04.18 | bjv | throttling |
| 10:04.36 | Valen | qos isnt speed limiting its preferential treatment |
| 10:04.43 | sep | bjv, just bandwith limiting can also be 'rate limiting' |
| 10:04.44 | bjv | is there a deb package, that can cover a whole connection? |
| 10:05.01 | bjv | just basic throttling, for the whole thing. (looking for quick fix) :P |
| 10:05.06 | Valen | ok booting |
| 10:05.08 | sep | bjv, if you want to also have qos , i'd use wondershaper package |
| 10:05.08 | Valen | yet again lol |
| 10:05.11 | liable | Valen: but what does your sources list point too? |
| 10:05.22 | bjv | wondershaper |
| 10:05.24 | bjv | k |
| 10:05.24 | jm_ | bjv: trickle? |
| 10:05.28 | sep | bjv, if you only want to ratelimit. a tc rule can be enouf |
| 10:05.32 | jm_ | or just use wondershaper |
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| 10:06.21 | Valen | sep will that work when the kernel i am running from is the one on the boot cd? |
| 10:07.25 | bjv | ill just do wondershaper real quick, then look at other options later. :P |
| 10:07.32 | sep | Valen, that what ? |
| 10:07.45 | bjv | hell knows no fury like a woman robbed of bandwidth by apt-get. |
| 10:07.53 | Valen | the mkinitrd |
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| 10:08.37 | marccd | how can I see what process is using a file |
| 10:08.46 | jm_ | marccd: /msg dpkg open files |
| 10:08.52 | sep | Valen, no you must then specify root also i think |
| 10:09.00 | Valen | liable, nothing i just formatted the thing |
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| 10:09.20 | marccd | jm_: dpkg is dead |
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| 10:09.35 | marccd | nevermind |
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| 10:10.09 | sep | Valen, you mean during install before you reboot to kernel on harddrive ? |
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| 10:10.19 | Valen | sep yes |
| 10:10.23 | Valen | i cant boot the kernel |
| 10:10.34 | Valen | . / is on scsi hdd |
| 10:10.40 | ginipig | good evening southern-hemisphere-ians |
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| 10:10.51 | Valen | it tries to load a non existant module to use that scsi disk |
| 10:10.54 | Valen | then dies |
| 10:11.11 | marccd | If I have the source of a 2.6.13-rc3 kernel, and I download rc6, can I just patch it on top of it? |
| 10:11.17 | liable | Valen: what about expert mode, and load the one you know works? |
| 10:11.31 | Valen | it is a *BOOT* problem |
| 10:11.36 | Valen | it installs fine |
| 10:11.41 | liable | ohh. |
| 10:11.41 | marccd | ahh I need the VI patches.. |
| 10:11.52 | Valen | the initrd image is WRONG |
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| 10:12.19 | Valen | i need to make a working initrd while using the installer |
| 10:12.35 | sep | Valen, before you reboot to the harddrive you can use a second console chroot to the harddrive add your module to the list in mkinitd |
| 10:12.46 | sep | then run the mkinitrd command and it should function normal |
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| 10:13.09 | Eonn | gus should i install samba as a service or init.d |
| 10:13.21 | Eonn | having issues with not being able to start smbd |
| 10:13.21 | Valen | sep thats what i did last time, but all the config files were empty |
| 10:13.27 | Valen | its just installing now |
| 10:13.34 | sep | Eonn, samba will be heavily uses = service, used rearly init.d |
| 10:13.43 | sep | umm inet.d i mean |
| 10:14.23 | sep | Valen, the module list you mean ? it's default empty |
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| 10:14.48 | Eonn | sep: so as a service |
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| 10:15.02 | Valen | then how does the installer make the initrd aware of reiser? |
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| 10:15.49 | Valen | rather load the reiser module into initrd? |
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| 10:16.32 | Valen | allrighty at console |
| 10:16.38 | Valen | fresh instal waiting to die |
| 10:16.39 | sep | Valen, mkinitrd should autoload the modules you need to boot, only add the ones it dont get by itself |
| 10:16.40 | Eonn | sed: so install as a service? |
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| 10:16.47 | sep | Eonn, yes |
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| 10:17.06 | Eonn | yeah thats what i thought, i cant get smbd to start |
| 10:17.10 | sep | Valen, a safer bet is not use reiser |
| 10:17.23 | Valen | sep i think the problem with that is when i run mkinitrd i do so from within the install environment |
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| 10:17.53 | Valen | so when i boot again it only loaded stuff for scsi and reiser, it didnt seem to know about my ide or cdrom drives |
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| 10:18.31 | sep | Valen, you should chroot to your harddrive ? |
| 10:18.39 | Valen | sep i am guessing at this point i should chroot to /target |
| 10:18.56 | Valen | yah thats done |
| 10:19.05 | sep | and do it all from there |
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| 10:20.24 | Valen | like i said i started using linux a week ago |
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| 10:24.24 | mike-m | Valen: \o/ |
| 10:24.24 | mike-m | I use linux systems over 1 year |
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| 10:24.24 | sep | Valen, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=285005 |
| 10:24.24 | mike-m | 1 year and 3 months :) |
| 10:24.24 | Valen | dosent get me out of this problem though |
| 10:24.38 | Valen | <- currently coming to you on a P1 200 with 48mb of ram running win2k |
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| 10:24.56 | Valen | ok i edited the mkinitrd script |
| 10:25.34 | sep | Valen, you can fix the pci.lst entry that way the mkinitrd will load the correct module witout you having to add things manualy |
| 10:26.13 | sep | Valen, afk good luck |
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| 10:40.13 | karl_ | I am unable to scan under user saned (used from inetd.conf) Any ideas ? |
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| 10:40.50 | Tye_ | What do you mean by scan? |
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| 10:41.11 | ilTizio | libc6 2.3.5-3 broke postfix 2.2.4-1, am I the only one? |
| 10:41.46 | liable | ilTizio: why not look in bts. |
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| 10:42.10 | ilTizio | on bugs.debian.org/libc6 I didn't find anything |
| 10:42.15 | ilTizio | liable: any ref? |
| 10:43.00 | liable | ilTizio: sid yes? |
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| 10:43.17 | ilTizio | liable: yes |
| 10:43.49 | liable | ilTizio: could be other stuff. libc6-dev or whatever else you last updated that seems to have broken it.. |
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| 10:45.40 | KudoZero | HI to everyone... I'm having problems with apt-get the result is http://pastebin.com/331858 I cannot install anything. Thanks in advance. :) |
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| 11:02.34 | *** topic/#debian is GETTING DEBIAN? /msg dpkg install debian | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | BTS: /msg dpkg bts | gcc/g++ 4.0 with new ABI in sid; beware breakage! | OH NO X.org! Beware breakage! | USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Java -> /msg dpkg java | kde 3.4 -> /msg dpkg kde3.4 | NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 11:02.49 | und0 | ma3x: http://www.cdemu.org/ there's an "install" section... |
| 11:02.55 | Triffid_Hunter | lol ma3x you first need some kernel sources to patch.. and unless you can get the same config/source set for your current kernel you'll have to install a new one |
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| 11:04.00 | ma3x | how do you patch exactly the kernel sources? |
| 11:04.09 | ma3x | the directory? |
| 11:04.16 | ma3x | und0, will look right waway |
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| 11:04.40 | redcliffe | hi - anyone here familiar with the lkm trojan? |
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| 11:04.52 | Rawplayer | like no? |
| 11:05.21 | liable | redcliffe: google false positives if chkrootkit gave that to you.. |
| 11:05.23 | redcliffe | i think i may have got it from the kernel image i downloaded from mirror.pacific.net.au |
| 11:05.52 | und0 | TeamGuard: don't know if i can help, what are you trying to run? |
| 11:05.55 | redcliffe | liable: yeah, i've been looking for that so far haven't found much info - i'll try seraching under false postives though |
| 11:06.01 | liable | redcliffe: debsums also |
| 11:06.31 | redcliffe | thanks i'll try that too |
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| 11:07.29 | liable | s00tsup: please dont /msg me, tead /topic |
| 11:07.35 | liable | read |
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| 11:07.57 | routeskeeper | please point me a good tutorial on using wifi (external wifi card, USB interface) |
| 11:08.55 | TeamGuard | und0, well I pretty much get that error all the time now.. noticed it first time when I was trying to start apache though |
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| 11:09.07 | OleMoudi | how do i update gnome menu to display recently installed packages? |
| 11:09.26 | Xik0 | hi here, it's possible to change the swap size? |
| 11:09.28 | routeskeeper | OleMoudi: install "smeg" |
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| 11:10.25 | und0 | OleMoudi: should be automatic, but you can try with "update-menus" from root |
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| 11:11.21 | routeskeeper | OleMoudi: some packages don't insert shortcuts to the gnome menu automatically, in this case, you have to use smeg to edit the menu manually |
| 11:11.35 | AjLavJo | what does the topic mean with "no more non-us" ? |
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| 11:12.55 | s_ward | AjLavJo, there used to be a non-us archive for packages containing encryption routines that couldn't be distributed from US servers due to laws that have since changed |
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| 11:13.30 | s00tsup | Hi-How can i get ncurses-devel library? |
| 11:13.33 | AjLavJo | ah okay |
| 11:13.33 | ma3x | und0, can you help me out? |
| 11:13.39 | AjLavJo | thanks for the info |
| 11:13.45 | Phated | s00tsup: apt-get install libncurses5-dev. |
| 11:13.50 | liable | libncurses5-dev |
| 11:13.55 | liable | meh |
| 11:14.15 | s00tsup | it doesnt work |
| 11:14.32 | AjLavJo | anyone experianced with dosemu i can't find how you make a virtual directory there |
| 11:14.34 | liable | !it doesn't work |
| 11:14.39 | s00tsup | already tried, it says there is a file which referes to it |
| 11:14.45 | liable | ffs |
| 11:14.45 | s00tsup | but that it is not there |
| 11:14.50 | liable | 1hi |
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| 11:14.54 | und0 | ma3x: dunno, but i've never used cdemu =) |
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| 11:15.40 | und0 | TeamGuard: are you using apache-ssl or apache2? |
| 11:15.41 | liable | dpkg: lazy bot |
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| 11:15.53 | ma3x | und0, i just can't understand this step 2. you need the source of your current running kernel. /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build/include needs to point at it. |
| 11:15.58 | ma3x | now I got the kernel sources |
| 11:15.59 | TeamGuard | und0, it's apache 1.3 |
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| 11:16.07 | ma3x | but I don't understand the 2nd part of the step |
| 11:16.39 | TBBle | ma3x: You don't want kernel sources, you want kernel-headers |
| 11:16.50 | liable | its a symlink. |
| 11:16.56 | s00tsup | is there any other way for getting that library? |
| 11:16.59 | ma3x | TBBle, thanks |
| 11:17.28 | ma3x | so 'the source of my running kernel' is the headers? |
| 11:17.31 | ma3x | that makes no sense |
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| 11:17.52 | und0 | ma3x: as TBBle say, you need to install the kernel-headers package for the kernel you are using |
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| 11:21.29 | redcliffe | anyone know if there are any currently known vulnerabilities in ssh in debian unstable? it's openssh_4.1p1 Debian-6, openssl 0.9.7g |
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| 11:22.32 | TBBle | ma3x: If you were building your kernel under a system that didn't provide useful things like kernel-package, you'd have to keep the built source for your running kernel (all 500MB of it) lying around in case you ever wanted to build a kernel module. This is what the instructions are referring to. In Debian's case, you use kernel-headers, and save yourself several-hundred megs. |
| 11:22.49 | und0 | TeamGuard: to me, seems you are trying to use something related with SSL, the error messages is about a library that belongs to libssl0.9.7 package |
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| 11:23.54 | ma3x | TBBle, thanks for the explanation |
| 11:24.05 | ma3x | and now this 3rd step says: build the module: $ make |
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| 11:24.14 | ma3x | but in what directory you type 'make' ? |
| 11:24.18 | TBBle | No whuckers. I built cdemu the other day, and my system crashed and my dog caught fire. |
| 11:24.29 | und0 | =) |
| 11:24.30 | TBBle | ma3x: The directory the module's in. |
| 11:24.33 | TeamGuard | und0, I seem to be getting the error wherever, when I try to upgrade php, apache or just about anything (even non-web related programs..) it's also complaining about the post-installation script and dpkg |
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| 11:24.51 | ma3x | ok, it didn't work before without the kernel headers :p |
| 11:24.51 | und0 | TeamGuard: are you running Sarge? |
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| 11:24.56 | TBBle | Yeah. |
| 11:25.08 | TeamGuard | und0, never heard of it... how could I find out? |
| 11:25.33 | und0 | TeamGuard: are you running Debian? =) |
| 11:25.37 | TBBle | On the plus side, it turned out that the image also couldn't be read by anything else I threw at it. Dodgy cue/bin as it turns out. |
| 11:25.42 | TeamGuard | und0, yes, yes I am :) |
| 11:25.58 | und0 | TeamGuard: ok, Sarge is the latest Debian stable |
| 11:26.14 | TBBle | Is this still the error where openssl wants an executable stack? |
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| 11:26.57 | und0 | TeamGuard: you should see in a console login something like "Debian GNU/Linux Stable blah blah" |
| 11:26.58 | TeamGuard | und0, oh, I see.. I installed this quite a while ago, so I'd bet all my money it's a fairly outdated version |
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| 11:27.27 | Tye_ | cat /etc/debian_version? |
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| 11:28.02 | TeamGuard | it says unstable, I don't like the sound of that |
| 11:28.30 | TBBle | That'd be sid then. |
| 11:28.34 | und0 | TeamGuard: yep, not good if you don't want to help developing next Debian release... |
| 11:28.40 | TBBle | Which is odd. I thought sid said "testing/unstable". |
| 11:28.52 | liable | should.. |
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| 11:29.10 | TeamGuard | ya ur right, testing/unstable |
| 11:29.15 | TBBle | Maybe it's unstable that predates testing? That'd make it... pre-potato? |
| 11:29.19 | TBBle | Oh, OK. |
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| 11:29.46 | TeamGuard | pre-potato does sound more fancy though |
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| 11:30.05 | J_P | hi all |
| 11:30.14 | TBBle | TeamGuard: That'd make it late 90's. |
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| 11:30.30 | und0 | TeamGuard: pre-potato probably means Slick, so more that 8 years old =) |
| 11:30.36 | TeamGuard | und0, alright, I seriously don't think my linux-skills could come in handy for anyone, so should I just wipe the system and reinstall everything? |
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| 11:31.34 | und0 | TeamGuard: there's no automatic way to move from unstable to stable |
| 11:31.36 | TeamGuard | ya I installed this years ago... and it's been working fairly good, so I never bothered to dig deeper in the mysterious world of debian-releases/updates |
| 11:31.45 | EzoNaan | Hello, I have a rather stupid question.. How do I make apt/dpkg/anything reset the config files of a package that i apt-getted to the defaults? |
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| 11:32.26 | liable | TeamGuard: you may be running testing. look in /etc/apt/sources/list |
| 11:32.27 | TBBle | Sure there is. Point your sources at testing, and wait for the next release. |
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| 11:33.03 | und0 | TBBle: i think he should better stay with stable |
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| 11:33.16 | TBBle | EzoNaan: purge and reinstall the package. |
| 11:33.29 | TeamGuard | und0, I see...! well then, to save myself the headache of trying to manually move from unstable to stable I'll just wipe it and start over from scratch |
| 11:33.36 | und0 | TBBle: sorry, i've misread your reply =) |
| 11:33.36 | TBBle | und0: True, but pointing at testing will at least keep you more up to date than pointing at stable while you wait for the release. |
| 11:33.39 | TBBle | ^_^ |
| 11:33.43 | EzoNaan | TBBle, dpkg --purge .. ;apt-get install .. ? |
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| 11:33.58 | TeamGuard | liable, ya it's testing alright >_< |
| 11:33.59 | TBBle | EzoNaan: Yeah. Of course, if there are dependancies, it's gonna be pain. |
| 11:34.14 | und0 | TeamGuard: do you have something running/valuable installed? |
| 11:34.17 | EzoNaan | TBBle, I tried that, it doesnt seem to write a new config file. |
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| 11:34.35 | TBBle | O_O Did --purge remove the old config file? |
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| 11:34.58 | EzoNaan | TBBle, no. |
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| 11:35.06 | TeamGuard | und0, yeah probably... but I think the ftp is still working so I'll just transfer it to another computer... |
| 11:35.12 | TBBle | EzoNaan: Are you sure it belongs to the right package? |
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| 11:35.51 | EzoNaan | TBBle, The package is apache2 and the config is /etc/apache2. I think that should be right. |
| 11:36.09 | liable | EzoNaan: aptitude purge apache2 |
| 11:36.13 | TBBle | EzoNaan: /etc/apache2 isn't a file, that's a directory. ^_^ --purge'll only take it if it's empty. |
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| 11:36.50 | TBBle | EzoNaan: Things like apache modules, and tnings like phpmyadmin will add to that directory. I also suspect apache2's removal scripts won't whack things you've created yourself. |
| 11:36.50 | und0 | TeamGuard: my suggestion is, make backup of configurations and data, change the apt source from testing/unstable to stable, and reinstall "manually" all the packages, if something goes awry reinstall from scratch... =) |
| 11:36.58 | EzoNaan | TBBle, Ohh.. I thought it'd eat the whole thing :) |
| 11:37.03 | TBBle | EzoNaan: dpkg -S /etc/apache2 to see what owns what. |
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| 11:37.26 | EzoNaan | TBBle, okay |
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| 11:38.31 | und0 | TeamGuard: to reinstall all packages you can use something like: apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | awk '{prinr $1};'` |
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| 11:39.01 | und0 | TeamGuard: better looking on google cause i'm bad to remember long command sequences... |
| 11:39.02 | TeamGuard | und0, whoa alright, sounds like a good idea! thanks a bunch =) |
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| 11:40.13 | und0 | TeamGuard: even if you install from scratch, you can save the list of installed packages with "dpkg --get-selections" and reinstall them with --set-selections |
| 11:40.53 | und0 | TeamGuard: should be explained on the dpkg and apt manuals, or you can ask the channel bot about it |
| 11:40.55 | kneet | sarge net install - install of base system - finishes size check - then starts validating packages. Gets to net-tools - and throws : debootstrap error - couldn't download net-tools. On the second virt console I can see that only packages up to net-tools have been downloaded (/target/var/cache/apt/archives) but only 2% disk in use is showing. Hints? |
| 11:41.43 | liable | try a different mirror. |
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| 11:41.51 | TeamGuard | und0, that's great, appriciate the help :) |
| 11:41.59 | kneet | liable, Hmm - haven't set a mirror manually - I'll go give that a go |
| 11:42.12 | TBBle | Hmm. If it's a really out of date unstable, then maybe pointing it at stable and dist-upgrading _might_ work... ^_^ |
| 11:42.13 | und0 | TeamGuard: no problem |
| 11:42.42 | und0 | TBBle: or not, better have a plan B... =) |
| 11:42.45 | TeamGuard | und0, isnt the manual-command for apt-get..: man apt-get? |
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| 11:42.55 | liable | kneet: um, ignore me, if its off the cd.. then dunno, try md5sum the cd.. |
| 11:43.14 | und0 | TeamGuard: yes, and "man dpkg" for dpkg |
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| 11:43.27 | kneet | liable, Installed a different machine with this CD yesterday :/ |
| 11:44.05 | TeamGuard | und0, thought so... yet another dissapointing 'error while loading shared libraries: libgbdm.so.3: bla bla...' |
| 11:44.07 | Tye_ | kneet: Could this CD-ROM be bad? |
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| 11:44.24 | kneet | Just running the "Check CD-ROM integrity" process |
| 11:44.40 | Tye_ | The CD drive that is. |
| 11:44.48 | liable | kneet: is it downloading or installing the base? net cd or business card? |
| 11:45.00 | kneet | It does complain about the integrity - I should have thought to check - but since it worked yesterday .... |
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| 11:45.44 | kneet | It's a file in ./pool - on the CD |
| 11:46.02 | und0 | TeamGuard: your system could be a little hosed, try "apt-get update" and "apt-get -f install" |
| 11:46.59 | kneet | liable, Tye_, took the CD out, pit it back in, ran integrity check and it went thru - gonna try base install again |
| 11:46.59 | smhar | what is apt-get -f install |
| 11:47.16 | und0 | smhar: try to fix dependecies |
| 11:47.41 | und0 | dependencies |
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| 11:48.25 | TeamGuard | und0, it didnt work no miracles... it gives me the exact same error |
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| 11:48.58 | TeamGuard | und0, I think I'm just going to go with the 'wipe-it-all' plan and go stable this time |
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| 11:49.04 | und0 | TeamGuard: i'm assuming your HW is ok, a lot of problems cames from, for example, bad RAM or a faulty power supply |
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| 11:49.30 | kuru | how do I know if I'm running xorg? I upgraded to unstable but answered xorg as my default xserver but I'm not sure what I'm running now |
| 11:49.31 | mhall | Hello all, what can be done to improve the performance of SSH 2? It's always half the speed of raw FTP. Seems like more than could be explained just by cryptographic overhead. I tried to benchmark it but OpenSSH refuses to provide a 'none' cipher. |
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| 11:50.19 | mhall | kuru: hmm xdpyinfo | head if you have X up |
| 11:50.26 | und0 | kuru: X -version |
| 11:50.42 | mhall | und0: doh, i forgot about that method ;-) |
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| 11:50.57 | xt3rminalx | hey |
| 11:51.05 | xt3rminalx | how can I find my root password? |
| 11:51.09 | mhall | I think I might have to install SSH on a Solaris box and dtrace it. |
| 11:51.10 | TeamGuard | und0, well this error occured as I was upgrading phpmyadmin to the latest version, via apt-get... perhaps I misspelled it all and typed: apt-destroy computer |
| 11:51.10 | DoppelGanger | ha ha |
| 11:51.12 | DoppelGanger | wtf |
| 11:51.13 | xt3rminalx | I cant su anymore |
| 11:51.15 | eye69 | xt3rminalx: You can't. |
| 11:51.20 | xt3rminalx | damn |
| 11:51.22 | xt3rminalx | well |
| 11:51.28 | kuru | vendor string: The X.Org Foundation |
| 11:51.31 | xt3rminalx | Its the first time in in my ubuntu box |
| 11:51.31 | DoppelGanger | xt3rminalx: how the hell do you forget your root password |
| 11:51.32 | dabaR | well, otherwise others could too. |
| 11:51.32 | kuru | that should say, right? |
| 11:51.32 | xt3rminalx | and now |
| 11:51.36 | xt3rminalx | well |
| 11:51.37 | DoppelGanger | wtf |
| 11:51.38 | smhar | und0, you are right about the hw bit. I have a 6yrs pld self-made pc, an 1000Mgz Athlon, been running smoothly with linux.. and been running debian contiously for morethan 6 months 24/7 |
| 11:51.39 | mhall | xt3rminalx: your best bet if it's your box would be knoppix |
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| 11:51.42 | xt3rminalx | I wasnt prompted to set it |
| 11:51.43 | DoppelGanger | xt3rminalx: get out now idiot |
| 11:51.47 | und0 | TeamGuard: try with "dpkg --configure -a" |
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| 11:51.50 | kuru | und0, that doesn't tell me anything useful (for what I need to know) |
| 11:51.51 | mhall | kuru: right, x.org |
| 11:51.56 | eye69 | xt3rminalx: #ubuntu |
| 11:52.00 | xt3rminalx | wtf |
| 11:52.03 | xt3rminalx | you fucking jerk |
| 11:52.08 | xt3rminalx | I wasnt prompted to set it |
| 11:52.11 | xt3rminalx | only my username |
| 11:52.12 | s_ward | xt3rminalx, boot some live cd (knoppix), mount your HDD and run john (the ripper) on your /etc/shadow |
| 11:52.20 | dabaR | xt3rminalx: ubuntu does not use a root account, but sudo, sudo uses your password, prepend sudo to a command you want to have run as root. wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo will tell you more. |
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| 11:52.32 | Tye_ | mhall: Morning Matt |
| 11:52.38 | smhar | und0, but recenly I am facing sudden reboots, hanging and stuck in boot failures.. that I can oly accuse the hw for |
| 11:52.38 | s_ward | xt3rminalx, it could take a while, if you chose a decent password |
| 11:52.45 | xt3rminalx | hm |
| 11:52.47 | dabaR | xt3rminalx: chill, #ubuntu is where you could get your answer answered easier, really. |
| 11:52.54 | xt3rminalx | okay |
| 11:52.55 | xt3rminalx | thanks |
| 11:53.01 | dabaR | welcome. |
| 11:53.17 | mhall | why does fucking ubuntu encrypt their shit with a bogus SSL cert? |
| 11:53.17 | TeamGuard | und0, that didnt work either, but to save you from that one gigantic headache I'm about to cause you, I'll just wipe this darn computer instead |
| 11:53.23 | s_ward | oh, ubuntu... ther is no root password, yeah, ask on ubuntu |
| 11:53.24 | und0 | kuru: i was sure that command showed the X.org string somewhere... =) |
| 11:53.28 | mhall | that's so ridiculously moronic i cannot comprehend it |
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| 11:53.42 | kuru | und0, yeah, but not easy to spot.. something about reporting bugs |
| 11:53.46 | kuru | und0, but now I'm pissed off |
| 11:54.06 | kuru | und0, I didn't modify configuration files, I didn't restart X a hundred times, I didn't do _anything_! |
| 11:54.14 | kuru | und0, all I did was 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to unstable |
| 11:54.18 | kuru | und0, and it all just _works_ |
| 11:54.22 | kuru | completely unacceptable! |
| 11:54.27 | floppyears | hi, I'm having problems with dpkg |
| 11:54.37 | und0 | kuru: =) |
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| 11:54.46 | mhall | oh, and sudo is horrifying for me sometimes |
| 11:54.52 | dabaR | mhall: so, the SSL is not secure? |
| 11:54.57 | floppyears | it seems that it can't remove zope-externaleditor |
| 11:55.00 | mhall | i despise any file that requires special editors |
| 11:55.11 | mhall | i thought that's why we had open source |
| 11:55.13 | floppyears | it says that the post-removal script returned error exit status 1 |
| 11:55.18 | mhall | so there would not be special editors |
| 11:55.19 | s_ward | mhall, not that I've looked into it too much, how's the certificate bogus? Because it isn't signed by a "recognised" CA? |
| 11:55.21 | mhall | and special formats |
| 11:55.31 | dabaR | mhall: you can open /etc/sudoers with a normal editor, save it and it qworks. |
| 11:55.38 | Gathond | mhall: what special editor for sudo? |
| 11:55.39 | mhall | dabaR: it's just 'slow sockets layer' |
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| 11:55.45 | dabaR | visudo is not a special ediitor, it just checks the file before you close it. |
| 11:55.46 | mhall | well yes you can |
| 11:55.52 | mhall | but that editor checks the file |
| 11:55.52 | floppyears | is there any option or command that I can use to force it to remove even it has problems with the script ? |
| 11:56.03 | asuffield | sudo doesn't need a special editor. visudo is a wrapper which makes sure that you don't install a non-functional config file |
| 11:56.05 | mhall | and from what i see you can't do the check without that editor |
| 11:56.08 | dabaR | so, whats wrong with having a check? |
| 11:56.09 | Gathond | mhall: visudo simply runs a syntax check on it afterwards (actually I think visudo uses $EDITOR as editor, but not sure) |
| 11:56.24 | mhall | Gathond: ah, that's acceptable |
| 11:56.27 | s_ward | mhall, it _doesn' |
| 11:56.32 | asuffield | "vi /etc/sudoers" is fine. "sudo visudo" is fine. "sudo vi /etc/sudoers" is dumb. that's the point of visudo |
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| 11:56.46 | s_ward | mhall, it _doesn't_ require a special editor, visudo just runs a check on it after |
| 11:56.56 | mhall | asuffield: for me it's all the same since i have bash 3 completion |
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| 11:57.02 | mhall | asuffield: which is sudo aware |
| 11:57.04 | und0 | floppyears: mmh, this should not happen, are you running stable? |
| 11:57.18 | asuffield | mhall: not inside vi you don't. the problem with the third one is that if you fuck up, you can't fix it, because now sudo doesn't work any more |
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| 11:57.41 | Gathond | mhall: or no, visudo honors the VISUAL or EDITOR variable if they contain an editor on its list of approved editors ... afaiks in the man page |
| 11:57.42 | mhall | hmm |
| 11:57.52 | TeamGuard | hey guys, when downloading debian.. is it the i386 version I need? (running some pentium computer...) |
| 11:57.52 | mhall | now I see why Sun switched to RBAC |
| 11:58.02 | s_ward | TeamGuard, yes |
| 11:58.07 | TeamGuard | s_ward great, thx |
| 11:58.18 | mhall | Gathond: heh, what oddness |
| 11:58.26 | s_ward | TeamGuard, unless it's one of those new-fangled 64-bit things, you might want to try ia-64 |
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| 11:58.54 | TeamGuard | s_ward, it's not... so I suppose the i386 one will do fine :) |
| 11:59.04 | dabaR | yA, it does use $EDITOR... |
| 11:59.05 | und0 | TeamGuard: if you have a network connection, download the netinstall (120 MB) and install only the packages you need |
| 11:59.25 | Gathond | mhall: has some reason I suppose, perhaps it has to know the editor and be able to make a tempory file to syntax check, as you could otherwise end up with a defective file and not being able to du anything about it since sudo now no longer works |
| 11:59.35 | TeamGuard | und0, the netinstall you say... interesting.. I'll go look for it :) thanks |
| 11:59.53 | mhall | Gathond: alright i see the way around it |
| 12:00.05 | mhall | Gathond: you can use it to do the syntax check on an alternate file |
| 12:00.17 | und0 | TeamGuard: you should find it in the same place of the CD images, IIRC |
| 12:00.19 | mhall | Gathond: so, copy it, edit it, check it, then copy it back |
| 12:00.34 | mhall | Gathond: but you'd still be subject to the multiple edits race |
| 12:00.49 | mhall | Gathond: hence why many large systems are moving to xml / database configuration |
| 12:00.54 | TeamGuard | und0, minimal networkinstallation-cd... that sounds about right |
| 12:01.00 | mhall | Gathond: then you have atomicity, transactions, and rollbacks |
| 12:01.22 | mhall | Gathond: so if that crap happens you can at least get 1) it applied 2) it did not apply |
| 12:01.35 | mhall | Gathond: and no chance of 0.5, 1.5, 3, etc. |
| 12:01.40 | TeamGuard | und0, ya only takes 2min and 30sec to download.. this'll save me some time! thanks |
| 12:01.53 | mhall | Gathond: downside being, slow + complex |
| 12:02.04 | und0 | TeamGuard: and some bandwidth |
| 12:02.07 | floppyears | und0: no, unstable |
| 12:02.45 | und0 | floppyears: have you looked in the Debian BTS? |
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| 12:04.29 | floppyears | und0: thanks, that was the one place I forgot to check :) |
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| 12:05.51 | und0 | floppyears: if you find nothing, you need to fix it yourself, increase the dpkg verbosity an look where it fails, and report the bug =) |
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| 12:06.17 | floppyears | und0: the bug is in the system :) |
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| 12:09.00 | kurtak | Hello everyone- i have an issue with some characters across multiple apps not showing correctly. i have a feeling it's a unicode issue, but not exactly sure. basically, the problematic characters look like a little box with 4 characters (hex numbers), like FF on the top row, and FD on the bottom row. Does anyone here have any hints??? |
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| 12:11.24 | und0 | kurtak: probably the font you are using don't have the necessary glyphs, in what application you see that? |
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| 12:12.50 | Genscher | does anybody knows if sarge needs rebooting if i add a partition? |
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| 12:13.02 | kurtak | und0: ah, thanks! i see them in almost all apps i use in X, like firefox, xchat, thunderbird... |
| 12:13.16 | stew | Genscher: it does not |
| 12:13.20 | und0 | i've installed a bunch of chinese and japanese fonts, but still in the homepage of wikipedia see some of this boxes |
| 12:13.40 | kurtak | und0: but the chars aren't oriental at all |
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| 12:14.29 | kurtak | und0: like this word: ?tems the first char there is the box with FFFD |
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| 12:14.47 | kurtak | und0: what do you see? heh |
| 12:14.57 | Genscher | stew: it's a running univeristy server. so are you sure? ;) |
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| 12:15.08 | stew | Genscher: positive |
| 12:15.20 | und0 | kurtak: with "echo $LANG" what you get? |
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| 12:15.52 | kurtak | und0: "en_US" |
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| 12:17.15 | und0 | kurtak: you should try with "en_US.UTF-8" or something like that, try "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 gnome-terminal" (i assume you are running gnome...) |
| 12:17.40 | kurtak | und0: nah, i'm using fluxbox |
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| 12:17.43 | Genscher | does anybody knows how i get this nice partition menu? "fdisk" just shows me some "command (m for help):" |
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| 12:18.02 | jm_ | Genscher: try cfdisk |
| 12:18.03 | kneet | cfdisk? |
| 12:18.16 | Genscher | ahh. thank you :) |
| 12:18.28 | jm_ | ok, so now we can answer your question - yes, several people know |
| 12:18.30 | und0 | kurtak: ok, "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 your_preferred_virtual-terminal" =) |
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| 12:18.45 | clown_ | does nagat supporting nagios's cfg_dir? |
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| 12:19.13 | Genscher | damn!! |
| 12:19.31 | Genscher | "can't reread table please reboot to update table" |
| 12:20.06 | jm_ | try using sfdisk -R |
| 12:20.24 | kurtak | und0: okay, what does that actually do, just change the encoding for just my terminal (aterm) |
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| 12:21.04 | und0 | kurtak: yes, if i didn't make errors |
| 12:21.06 | clown_ | Genscher: because you're changed the partition table before |
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| 12:21.14 | und0 | made |
| 12:21.30 | kurtak | und0: how does that help the other apps? |
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| 12:21.57 | Genscher | clown_: i just tried cfdisk and made some new partition. |
| 12:22.04 | und0 | kurtak: if this solves the problem, you reconfigure your locales to make it permanent |
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| 12:23.00 | clown_ | Genscher: if you're changed PT on your boot device, you have to reboot =( |
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| 12:23.25 | und0 | kurtak: IIRC that locales is the right place to configure it, ah and look in your .bashrc/.zshrc for any LANG= |
| 12:23.30 | Genscher | clown_: i can't reboot because it's a webserer of my university. |
| 12:24.07 | Genscher | that's why i asked if creating partitions need rebooting |
| 12:24.46 | clown_ | Genscher: only for _boot_ device |
| 12:25.31 | Genscher | clown_: if i have only one raid device, it is my boot device ;) |
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| 12:25.52 | clown_ | does anybody have a success story with nagat? |
| 12:26.02 | kurtak | und0: i paste the char into my aterm (after changing $LANG) and it just shows "\ufffd" |
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| 12:26.41 | clown_ | Genscher: that's your luck =( ;) |
| 12:27.40 | und0 | kurtak: your /etc/locale.gen has the UTF-8 entries? |
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| 12:27.54 | kurtak | und0: i'll check |
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| 12:28.29 | und0 | kurtak: if not you "dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales" and add what you need |
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| 12:28.39 | kurtak | und0: actually, no, just this one en_US ISO-8859-1 |
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| 12:29.16 | kurtak | und0: okay, thank you so much! i'll try this out and see how it goes. i really appreciate it! |
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| 12:29.29 | und0 | kurtak: no problem |
| 12:29.37 | kurtak | und0: configuring locales isn't something i'm too familiar with yet |
| 12:29.42 | Wyzard | Genscher: If anything on the disk is in use at the time you repartition it (such as a filesystem being mounted), the kernel can't re-read the partition table on the fly, so you have to reboot for it to see the new partitioning |
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| 12:30.16 | und0 | kurtak: you do this at installation time, i've done mine when was running Slink... =) |
| 12:30.16 | Wyzard | Genscher: You can look at the messages printed when you quit fdisk to see whether it succeeded |
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| 12:31.16 | und0 | kurtak: ok, i've done it not so long ago to try to understand the UTF stuff... |
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| 12:32.14 | kurtak | und0: ah cool.. i finally have the time now to go after this problem.. i've been putting it off |
| 12:32.35 | Genscher | Wyzard: remote location reboot with some internet server sucks ...i 'll never know if it comes back online ;) |
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| 12:33.43 | micha | hello |
| 12:34.12 | und0 | kurtak: you should find some document/white paper on using UTF-8 on Debian, i don't have the link at hand, but google should find it |
| 12:34.50 | kurtak | und0: cool, will do. |
| 12:35.07 | und0 | und0: yep, first link: http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html |
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| 12:41.12 | cocozz | buenas |
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| 12:41.29 | cocozz | conoceis algun programa (en consola) para monitorear el trafico que pasa por la tarjeta de red ? |
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| 12:41.48 | Tye_ | I need to do arithmetic (simple addition) with a command. Is there such a command? |
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| 12:42.00 | jm_ | Tye_: yes |
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| 12:42.23 | Tye_ | jm_: I can't figure out what to google for. Would you like to help, please? |
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| 12:42.36 | fatal__ | Tye_: bc |
| 12:42.40 | Tye_ | Thanks fatal! |
| 12:42.41 | und0 | Tye_: dc |
| 12:42.43 | jm_ | Tye_: man expr, you can also use bc |
| 12:42.53 | IsaacHaze | ruby -e 'puts 1+1' |
| 12:43.57 | s_ward | python -c 'print 1+1' # :P |
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| 12:44.44 | s_ward | !es cocozz |
| 12:44.49 | s_ward | !es |
| 12:44.49 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:44.52 | jm_ | Tye_: most shells also support arithemtic evaluation, i.e. bash, zsh, ksh ... |
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| 12:45.00 | jm_ | arithmetic |
| 12:45.04 | IsaacHaze | perl -e 'print 1+1' |
| 12:45.04 | TBBle | echo $[2+2]? |
| 12:45.06 | IsaacHaze | =] |
| 12:45.07 | micha | i have a question |
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| 12:45.21 | Tye_ | jm_: Okay, so how do I do $i + 14? |
| 12:45.27 | Tye_ | $i is an integer |
| 12:45.30 | jm_ | Tye_: did you read man expr? |
| 12:45.31 | s_ward | oh, not here now, bah, I typed too quick for tab-completion |
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| 12:45.52 | Tye_ | jm_: I'm in bc, it's not so easy as I imagined. I'll check expr |
| 12:46.10 | Tye_ | jm_: Ah, expr looks easy. Thanks |
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| 12:46.18 | Tye_ | Sweet! |
| 12:46.19 | jm_ | Tye_: well bc is different, you'll have to feed it the expression on stdin |
| 12:46.26 | jm_ | $(()) is even easier |
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| 12:47.25 | s_ward | micha, don't tell everyone, everyone will want one. Just ask, we'll try not to bite :) |
| 12:47.30 | und0 | micha: ask freely =) |
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| 12:49.21 | slobfish | how can i switch to sid? |
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| 12:50.00 | und0 | slobfish: if you need to ask better if you stay with stable |
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| 12:50.31 | und0 | slobfish: no offence, but this isn't the best moment to ride unstable |
| 12:50.37 | teval | Is there an easy way to change what order rc scripts run in? |
| 12:50.54 | slobfish | right but i just want to test it |
| 12:50.55 | jm_ | !wayttd teval |
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| 12:50.57 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, teval? |
| 12:51.10 | teval | dpkg, To get NIS to start up earlier |
| 12:51.21 | Tye_ | No, I can't figure this out :-( I have a number of images on the format 0629-1-arbitrary_name.jpg, 0629-2-foobar.jpg. I need to increase the counter number (1, 2, etc) by 14 in each case. Any ideas anyone? |
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| 12:51.24 | micha | can anyone help me with the gcc? |
| 12:51.51 | teval | dpkg, I'm having NIS issues and I think that might be the problem |
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| 12:51.55 | und0 | micha: maybe, but first you need to say your problem |
| 12:52.01 | Fanno | hi all, i just instaled debian and i notis when it start's up it start's somthing caled AppleTalk form the discriptsion i cant see what id dose , as i can understand its some protocol to talk with apple computers ? |
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| 12:52.23 | jm_ | teval: yes, you can do that, but defaults should be fine |
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| 12:52.43 | useruser | is there a trick to running opera 8 on sid? every time I try to load a page, either xfs (if running) or the X server goes wild |
| 12:52.47 | teval | jm_, They aren't, it executes usless things between NIS and the networking that break badly |
| 12:52.53 | kosuke | when packaging a .deb for sid using dpkg-buildpackage for eventual upload to debian, should gcc/g++ be version 3.3, 3.4 or 4.0 ? |
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| 12:54.31 | jm_ | teval: between NIS and networking? I hope you mean between networking and NIS |
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| 12:54.43 | teval | jm_, Heh, yeah that order >P |
| 12:55.26 | und0 | Fanno: yes, should be "netatalk" |
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| 12:55.53 | streuner | hm |
| 12:56.11 | jm_ | teval: well feel free to modify it |
| 12:56.15 | stouset | What's the location of the Debian repository that has all revisions of the pool? |
| 12:56.22 | stouset | i.e., every package in Debian ever |
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| 12:56.39 | streuner | sdn? |
| 12:56.44 | streuner | dpkg, sdn |
| 12:56.44 | dpkg | it has been said that sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problem. |
| 12:56.44 | und0 | stouset: the old one? |
| 12:56.45 | micha | und0: i want to compile my codes, that i've written in win xp *argh* and now the gcc says an error msg about the header files |
| 12:56.59 | Fanno | und0: yes u found out its caned that can i "uninstall" that if i dont have any apple pc's ? |
| 12:57.05 | stouset | snapshot.debian.org doesn't exist =\ |
| 12:57.06 | teval | jm_, Is there a way to get a list of what happens on bootup? I have an error but it passes by too quickly |
| 12:57.07 | streuner | stouset: archive.d.o is pretty dead ;-) |
| 12:57.17 | teval | jm_, chown fails somewhere because NIS starts up too late |
| 12:57.19 | jm_ | teval: enabled bootlogd |
| 12:57.19 | und0 | Fanno: dpkg --purge netatalk |
| 12:57.24 | teval | jm_, Thank you |
| 12:57.25 | TBBle | stouset: Read that again. |
| 12:57.41 | stouset | TBBle: Ah, duh |
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| 12:57.54 | jm_ | teval: there's a way to affect how this is handled on ugprades, but I forgot where to look |
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| 12:59.05 | und0 | micha: maybe the header file is missing, is your code portable? |
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| 12:59.15 | Fanno | und0: thanks |
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| 12:59.26 | streuner | jm_: /var/log/dmesg ? |
| 12:59.28 | und0 | Fanno: no problem |
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| 12:59.50 | und0 | stouset: maybe snapshot.debian.net |
| 12:59.50 | micha | und0: for example iostream.h or stdlib.h, should i use others? |
| 12:59.59 | stouset | und0: That was it. |
| 13:00.02 | teval | jm_, bootlogd is already in the default runlevel |
| 13:00.08 | und0 | micha: iostream should be C++ |
| 13:00.11 | Fanno | do i in inittab setup if i want to startx at startup the same way as in mandriva ? |
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| 13:00.41 | streuner | Fanno: read /msg dpkg wm |
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| 13:01.17 | sciboy | Update my Wacom script : http://www.sciboy.org/downloads/findwacom |
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| 13:01.20 | jm_ | streuner: no |
| 13:01.22 | sciboy | Updated* |
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| 13:01.28 | jm_ | teval: but it's not enabled by default |
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| 13:01.36 | und0 | micha: you probably need to install g++ if you need to compile C++ |
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| 13:01.39 | streuner | jm_: hehe, that's what i thought :-) |
| 13:01.55 | micha | ok i'll try |
| 13:01.58 | micha | thanks |
| 13:02.12 | und0 | micha: no problem |
| 13:02.25 | teval | jm_, Ah, thank you |
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| 13:03.45 | streuner | !info build-essential |
| 13:03.48 | dpkg | build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (sid), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
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| 13:06.36 | streuner | oh, a new feature of 'dancer' |
| 13:07.03 | jm_ | it's hyperion now ;) |
| 13:07.03 | stew | streuner: N=? |
| 13:07.10 | streuner | >>N<<=ding@pcp06953945pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net |
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| 13:07.23 | stew | gee, what a neat feature... |
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| 13:07.27 | jm_ | yeah, what's wrong with good old ~ |
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| 13:08.11 | kurtak | und0: do you use firefox? |
| 13:08.27 | kurtak | und0: if so, what's your encoding? UTF-8? |
| 13:08.54 | kurtak | und0: i installed the new locales, and i'm not seeing any difference |
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| 13:09.48 | Orfeous | does anyone have some tips for increasing speed over SAMBA? |
| 13:10.10 | Orfeous | i got a gigabit LAN but can only reach like 5-6mb/s over samba via Winblows ;) |
| 13:10.29 | kurtak | und0: ah, hold on |
| 13:10.30 | und0 | KursK: yep, Unicode (UTF-8) |
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| 13:14.11 | sep | Orfeous, read usr/share/samba-doc-ja/docs/Speed.txt in the samba-doc package |
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| 13:14.50 | gypsymauro | hi |
| 13:15.00 | medusaXX | is there any information when a php5 package comes into sid? |
| 13:15.02 | gypsymauro | there is a command line w3c html validator |
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| 13:15.21 | wickedpuppy | hi anyone knows where is .emacs ? |
| 13:15.28 | jm_ | medusaXX: are you using sid? |
| 13:15.30 | mink | does anyone have a suggested sources.list? |
| 13:15.33 | streuner | medusaXX: /msg dpkg info php5 |
| 13:15.38 | jm_ | gypsymauro: tried tidy? |
| 13:15.40 | und0 | wickedpuppy: in your home? |
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| 13:15.47 | sep | mink, : apt-setup |
| 13:15.49 | medusaXX | uhm |
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| 13:15.54 | palius | hi folks... who can help me? i've installed my conexant modem on my debian... but i would know how can i connect it (inserting username and password).. |
| 13:15.55 | wickedpuppy | hmms .. i can't find it |
| 13:16.02 | medusaXX | when was it added? |
| 13:16.02 | wickedpuppy | i can only see .emacs.d |
| 13:16.06 | mink | sep - mmmm will try that |
| 13:16.09 | wickedpuppy | the directory that is |
| 13:16.11 | medusaXX | i'm sorry |
| 13:16.17 | streuner | medusaXX: look at pdo |
| 13:16.27 | medusaXX | pdo? |
| 13:16.40 | streuner | medusaXX: packages.debian.org - there is usually a date for |
| 13:16.46 | medusaXX | thanks |
| 13:16.59 | und0 | wickedpuppy: you can create one, "touch .emacs" and you are done =) |
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| 13:17.21 | wickedpuppy | oh ah .. hmms thought it will be done by emacs .. oh well i got it :P |
| 13:17.23 | wickedpuppy | thanks guys |
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| 13:18.10 | und0 | wickedpuppy: probably you havent modified nothing yet in emacs |
| 13:18.14 | me_here | !tell /me about unc |
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| 13:18.35 | palius | how can i have access on net with my modem usb adsl ù(i've already install it) |
| 13:19.05 | wickedpuppy | ah probably ... yes i want to turn transient mode on .. thats why |
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| 13:19.08 | Skrotto | Hi.. I plugged out my Sony Ericsson K750i (usb-storage) from my computer, and now I can't reconnect it. dmesg and /var/log/kern.log only shows: http://rafb.net/paste/results/T2urnr50.html - is there any way to reset/stop this seemingly endless loop? |
| 13:19.15 | wickedpuppy | well i touched .emacs and done it :P |
| 13:19.17 | und0 | palius: is ethernet? |
| 13:19.30 | sep | palius, load the module, configure the interface, and very much easier with a real network based modem then the usb stuff |
| 13:19.30 | palius | und=: no |
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| 13:19.55 | palius | sep: how can i do it? ppoe knows only ethernet cards |
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| 13:20.57 | und0 | palius: i've done only one time with a USB ADSL modem |
| 13:21.21 | palius | und0: ok.. |
| 13:21.25 | sep | palius, you have loaded the module for your adsl usb modem ? |
| 13:21.36 | palius | yes |
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| 13:21.49 | jm_ | where did you find this module? |
| 13:21.52 | palius | seP on the boot my pc recognize it... |
| 13:22.04 | sep | palius, and what interface did it end up on ? check dmesg |
| 13:22.41 | palius | sep:what d u mean? |
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| 13:23.32 | streuner | mwilson: well, "HyK5Lf2V" wonderful :-) |
| 13:23.34 | palius | a my friend says to me use pppoa don't use ppoe |
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| 13:25.20 | sep | !pppoe |
| 13:25.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, pppoe is ppp over ethernet, apt-get install pppoe pppoeconf and read /usr/share/doc/pppoe/README.Debian This is rp-pppoe, but with the scripts rewritten. For PPPOE support in 2.4 kernels enable EXPERIMENTAL Features and go to Network Device Support |
| 13:25.34 | sep | read that README file. |
| 13:25.52 | jm_ | pal;you need to use whatever your ISP tells you to use |
| 13:26.16 | sep | your adsl modem have to have an interface assiged to it, you can figure out what by reading dmesg |
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| 13:26.26 | sep | pablum, or perhaps my ifconfig -a |
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| 13:26.57 | bushido | hi folks |
| 13:27.19 | illsci | whats a debain way to see what services are turned on |
| 13:27.26 | illsci | can you list services that are on with update-rc |
| 13:27.31 | illsci | er update-rc.d i mean |
| 13:27.33 | jm_ | no |
| 13:27.39 | illsci | how can you list them |
| 13:27.47 | illsci | other than doing ps or netstat |
| 13:27.49 | jm_ | with ls or with other packages |
| 13:27.56 | illsci | what other packages |
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| 13:28.11 | sep | illsci, ls /etc/rc2.d ? |
| 13:28.15 | micha | und0, still here? |
| 13:28.19 | illsci | yeah but theres more than one run level |
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| 13:28.26 | illsci | .... there isnt anything like chkconfig |
| 13:28.26 | jm_ | apt-cache search sysv init |
| 13:28.28 | und0 | micha: yep |
| 13:28.33 | bushido | i have compiled alsa support into my kernel, also installed alsa-base and alsa-utils, but when i want to configure gstreamer via gstreamer-properties, the only thing i can select is oss ( i guess because i have also compiled oss-emulation as module). how can i achive that i can also choose alsa in the gstreamer-properties menu? |
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| 13:29.09 | routeskeeper | do you know any good tut on setting up wifi, using a USB wifi interface? |
| 13:29.11 | und0 | bushido: do you have configured alsa with "alsa-utils"? |
| 13:29.36 | bushido | und0: well i did alsaconf as root |
| 13:29.49 | micha | can i paste my error mesg here? |
| 13:29.59 | bushido | but there is no command like "alsa-utils" |
| 13:30.12 | teval | Is it normal for NIS to report two sets of each group? for example if I'm in my local /etc/group and in the NIS group (identical names) it reports it twice when I type groups |
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| 13:30.19 | und0 | micha: no, let me join #flood |
| 13:30.21 | bushido | not quite sure if i know what you mean |
| 13:30.35 | illsci | hey |
| 13:30.42 | und0 | micha: but i'm not so expert in C++ |
| 13:30.49 | illsci | what if its not set to start in rc2.d |
| 13:31.00 | illsci | so ls /etc/rc2.d isnt going to tell you what else gets started |
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| 13:31.18 | illsci | if it starts in 3..... is there a chkconfig utility that will list what gets started in what run level |
| 13:31.22 | illsci | for debian |
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| 13:32.58 | illsci | hola |
| 13:33.10 | stew | !red hat tools |
| 13:33.10 | dpkg | If you're a (former) Red Hat user looking for Red Hat Tools on debian, you won't find many. But: chkconfig={sysvconfig,sysv-rc-conf,rcconf,update-rc.d}; service=invoke-rc.d; kudzu=discover; rc.local=bootmisc; etc. |
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| 13:33.56 | sep | illsci, and it never starts in runlevel 3 fyi |
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| 13:34.17 | RvGaTe | Is there any other cool stuff i can do with my debian server instead of using it as a webserver, ircbot, samba server and printserver ? |
| 13:34.22 | und0 | bushido: sorry, my mistake, the command is alsaconf and it belongs to alsa-utils |
| 13:34.36 | bushido | und0: np |
| 13:34.46 | kurtak | und0: what was that command you asked me to do from the very beginning? it changed the locale for my favorite terminal?? |
| 13:34.46 | jdhutchin1 | RvGaTe, it'll do whatever you want it to do |
| 13:34.51 | sep | RvGaTe, EVERYTHING!!! |
| 13:35.13 | RvGaTe | jdhutchin1: sep, i know i can do everything, but what are some really cool stuff i should check out..? |
| 13:35.43 | pngwn | heh |
| 13:35.50 | me_here | i have upgraded my software through aptitude, now i don't get into gnome (happened to me last time again, but there my default user has been erased out of his own group) anyone any clues = |
| 13:35.56 | me_here | s/=/?/ |
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| 13:36.04 | illsci | sep: |
| 13:36.11 | illsci | scripts get started in run level 3 |
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| 13:36.18 | und0 | kurtak: it wasn't a command, it change a variable ($LANG), you do it something like "export LANG=..." |
| 13:36.22 | illsci | thats why there is S scripts in /etc/rc3.d |
| 13:36.28 | illsci | so looking in /etc/rc2.d isnt enough |
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| 13:36.32 | illsci | fyi |
| 13:36.40 | sep | RvGaTe, lessdisks, boot other computers from your server, asterisk use your server as your house PBX system, nagios/munin/cricket/mrtg/etc/etc monitor all your network devices, and send you alerts when events happen |
| 13:36.43 | bushido | und0: i just found out why it didnt work: the package gstreamer0.8-alsa must be installed :) |
| 13:36.52 | sep | illsci, a debian NEVER run in rl3 unless you edit it to do so |
| 13:36.57 | und0 | bushido: =) |
| 13:36.58 | sep | illsci, it's allways in rl2 |
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| 13:37.21 | und0 | kurtak: should read: "a local variable" |
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| 13:37.26 | illsci | hmmm ok |
| 13:37.27 | RvGaTe | sep: monitoring the network sounds cool... |
| 13:37.31 | berzerka | hello guys. my amp cant handle mono input. i have lots of mono music (chiptune stuff). can i make xmms/mpg123/whatever duplicate the mono channel before output? or can that maybe be configured via alsa? |
| 13:37.33 | illsci | good to know |
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| 13:37.52 | jm_ | unaffiliated/penix - nice, no dots in hostnames anymore, I wonder how many things this will break |
| 13:38.07 | sep | RvGaTe, smokeping is nice. if you want to detect varable wireless networks |
| 13:38.24 | sep | illsci, redhat ususaly use different runlevels for stuff, not so in debian. |
| 13:38.26 | jm_ | berzerka: man mpg321 |
| 13:38.33 | cahoot | berzerka: mp3s or wavs? |
| 13:38.37 | RvGaTe | sep: the box doesn't have a wireless card... |
| 13:38.39 | kurtak | und0: oh, i did that, wasn't there something else? |
| 13:38.44 | Warbo | Hi, does anyone know why adding a user doesn't let them use GNOME or KDE? My original user can, and logging in consoles as a new user works, just not a window manager. Help! |
| 13:38.44 | berzerka | cahoot: mp3s mainly. |
| 13:38.57 | illsci | sep: yeah, ok... so runlevel2 it is |
| 13:39.00 | sep | RvGaTe, ither does mine, but it monitors the endpoints thru ping tests |
| 13:39.05 | berzerka | jm_: no way to do it system, or device-wide? |
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| 13:39.23 | RvGaTe | sep: got any docs ? |
| 13:39.38 | jm_ | berzerka: it's worth checking ALSA docs (I think dmix can do this) |
| 13:39.38 | kurtak | und0: now i type "locale charmap" it gives me back "UTF-8", $LANG = en_US.UTF-8 |
| 13:39.40 | und0 | kurtak: with export you modify the enviroment variable in your terminal, if you use "LANG=... your_command" is only for the command |
| 13:39.42 | sep | RvGaTe, install the package read the docs in it |
| 13:39.54 | kurtak | und0: but everything's the same |
| 13:40.00 | berzerka | jm_: ill do that, thanks. |
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| 13:40.44 | und0 | kurtak: =) |
| 13:41.02 | und0 | kurtak: what you get if you use the "locale" command? |
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| 13:42.18 | greycat | Gah. What's all this "I=" and "N=" crap in everyone's new hostmasks now? Does that mean all our +q's and +b's need to be redone? |
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| 13:42.43 | greycat | Will my ignore list need to be redone too? |
| 13:42.44 | s_ward | Identd'd, Non-identd'd |
| 13:42.55 | timo | greycat, http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
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| 13:44.18 | asuffield | greycat: yup. I'm rather amused by all the trouble over identd, which is utterly useless |
| 13:45.51 | me_here | i have upgraded my software through aptitude, now i don't get into gnome (happened to me last time again, but there my default user has been erased out of his own group) anyone any clues ? |
| 13:46.21 | illsci | whats the best way to change network and hostname settings on debian |
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| 13:46.51 | [AWAY]Mega[WORK] | illsci use command "hostname" |
| 13:46.54 | greycat | illsci: edit the files, first. |
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| 13:47.07 | illsci | what files besides /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts |
| 13:47.10 | [AWAY]Mega[WORK] | illsci or edit the file /etc/hostname |
| 13:47.11 | greycat | then if you really want to be sure you got it all right, reboot. |
| 13:47.13 | sep | illsci, network in /etc/network/interfaces, and /etc/resolv.conf, hostname in /etc/hostname /etc/mailname and /etc/hosts |
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| 13:47.24 | illsci | thanks |
| 13:47.24 | greycat | illsci: /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:47.42 | asuffield | and /etc/bind/* |
| 13:47.59 | greycat | I'll assume he doesn't run a DNS server |
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| 13:48.08 | asuffield | that would be sarcasm |
| 13:48.21 | asuffield | there's a bunch of other daemons which copy it though |
| 13:48.24 | asuffield | apache, samba, etc |
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| 13:48.36 | greycat | and MTAs |
| 13:49.11 | kurtak | und0: locale shows all those vars = en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 13:49.41 | RvGaTe | how can i view the current rights on a file/dir ? (the chmod value) |
| 13:50.04 | Neko_ | RvGaTe: ls (man ls) |
| 13:50.08 | greycat | ls -ld _thething_ |
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| 13:51.28 | RvGaTe | thx greycat |
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| 13:51.38 | und0 | kurtak: ok, try to paste some UTF-8 in your terminal, or download http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/download/UTF-8-demo.txt.gz and cat it |
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| 13:52.32 | brusso | hello |
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| 13:52.48 | brusso | I need help to configure cyrus+mysql |
| 13:53.02 | brusso | auxpropfunc error no mechanism available |
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| 13:54.46 | und0 | brusso: i suppose you need mysql to store credentials (username/passwd), you have two choices IIRC, using PAM or using mysql directly via SASL |
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| 13:55.57 | kurtak | und0: cating that demo file actually shows most chars but not all of them |
| 13:56.34 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 13:56.42 | brusso | und0: mysql is installed and run. I need use PAM, but not run! :( |
| 13:56.51 | und0 | kurtak: it's something =), you need to install the missing fonts, i suppose |
| 13:56.58 | solemnwarning | i ran apt-get install apache2 php4 but i cant view php pages |
| 13:57.15 | solemnwarning | it keeps trying to make me download the php page, not view it |
| 13:57.54 | und0 | brusso: you should find a quite simple to follow tutorial on the net to configure it, i don't have the link at hand right now, let me check if i can retrieve it |
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| 13:58.21 | solemnwarning | any idea whats wrong? |
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| 13:58.36 | davis | hello |
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| 13:58.53 | Althaser | hellow |
| 13:58.54 | ssm | solemnwarning: what's in your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled? |
| 13:58.54 | brusso | und0: I have 3 how-to, but don't run!! |
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| 13:59.16 | phaedral | hi all; grep will search text in a file but what do I use to search for text in all files of a directory? |
| 13:59.19 | ssm | solemnwarning: do you have some php4 symlinks in that dir? |
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| 13:59.44 | brusso | und0: do you need a idea for this error "auxpropfunc error no mechanism available" |
| 13:59.45 | EasterSunshine | phedral: grep search-text * |
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| 14:00.00 | phaedral | EasterSunshine: thx; can google from there |
| 14:00.20 | phaedral | thought grep was one-file-only for some reason |
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| 14:00.44 | und0 | brusso: no, i've played with Cyrus long time ago |
| 14:00.55 | solemnwarning | ssm: |
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| 14:00.56 | solemnwarning | http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/phpmyadmin/phpMyAdmin-2.6.3-pl1.tar.gz |
| 14:00.58 | solemnwarning | bah |
| 14:01.06 | solemnwarning | i hate when copy dont work |
| 14:01.10 | solemnwarning | mikoto:~# ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ |
| 14:01.10 | solemnwarning | cgid.conf cgid.load userdir.conf userdir.load |
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| 14:01.24 | ssm | solemnwarning: ( cd /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ && ln -s ../mods-available/php4.* . ) |
| 14:01.53 | ssm | solemnwarning: then reload your apache |
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| 14:01.54 | davis | hello |
| 14:02.30 | solemnwarning | mikoto:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled# /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 14:02.30 | solemnwarning | Forcing reload of web server: Apache2grep: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.*: No such file or directory |
| 14:02.30 | solemnwarning | . |
| 14:02.40 | und0 | brusso: you can skip the part about web-cyradm (if you don't need an http interface for creating accounts): http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/index.html |
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| 14:03.06 | davis | a while back, i was getting errors with my hard disk. I was told how to adjust the fsck settings so they would occur every 6 times on my root partition. I have duped the fs to a new disk now and I dont need the fsck to happen so often. How do I revert back to a normal fsck schedule? |
| 14:03.12 | wickedpuppy | anyone knows if k3b can burn .img files ? |
| 14:03.21 | ssm | solemnwarning: is there no php4.* files in /etc/apache2/mods-available? |
| 14:03.36 | brusso | und0: yes, it's how-to I use |
| 14:03.41 | solemnwarning | no |
| 14:04.03 | butch | Hello everyone. |
| 14:04.04 | kneet | then you may need libapache2-mod-php installed |
| 14:04.23 | ssm | solemnwarning: The package libapache2-mod-php4 should be installed |
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| 14:04.34 | solemnwarning | installing |
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| 14:04.50 | solemnwarning | w00t |
| 14:04.54 | solemnwarning | that fixed it :) |
| 14:04.54 | cahoot | davis: man tune2fs (if ext3) |
| 14:05.12 | davis | cahoot: yah its ext3 |
| 14:05.18 | davis | what is the normal schedule |
| 14:05.27 | ssm | solemnwarning: nice. :D |
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| 14:06.19 | kneet | By the way - the symlinking of sites and mods available to enabled - you have a2ensite, a2dissite, a2enmod and a2dismod - a2enmod php4 will for example link both php4.conf and php4.load for you |
| 14:06.52 | und0 | brusso: have you looked this one? www.web-cyradm.org/documentation/debian_sarge-cyrus-howto.pdf |
| 14:06.56 | stew | wickedpuppy: depends on what the .img is. what does "file blah.img" say it is? |
| 14:07.05 | butch | I have a question concerning perl, up-to-date Debian sarge. Error message: "DBD driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 639.". I am quite sure that attribute should be known. Does anyone have some pointers for me? |
| 14:07.05 | ssm | kneet: thanks, I was not aware of those |
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| 14:07.18 | kneet | ssm, found them by accident :) |
| 14:07.23 | stew | wickedpuppy: or how was the .img created? |
| 14:07.27 | brusso | und0: thanks |
| 14:07.48 | nostradam | guys still writing down some stuff for my debian/postfix mailserver (under vmware) should I install using the 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? what's the difference...? |
| 14:07.49 | kneet | ssm, and was very pleased :) After moving to a2 from 1.3.x I've been surprised how easy config and maintainance is |
| 14:08.06 | wickedpuppy | img is image file of course |
| 14:08.08 | ssm | kneet: I agree |
| 14:08.22 | und0 | brusso: no problem |
| 14:08.30 | wickedpuppy | its detected in nero .. but i read somewhere saying k3b won't burn it |
| 14:08.37 | davis | cahoot: tune2fs does not show me the current settings. it definetly will allow me to specify it. |
| 14:08.42 | und0 | nostradam: pratically HW support |
| 14:08.57 | cahoot | davis: tune2fs -l should |
| 14:09.24 | nostradam | und0: so no difference as to stability..? |
| 14:09.25 | stew | wickedpuppy: image of what? of a iso9660 filesystem? |
| 14:09.31 | wickedpuppy | yup |
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| 14:09.36 | wickedpuppy | iso9660 |
| 14:09.39 | stew | wickedpuppy: then of course it can burn it |
| 14:09.39 | micha__ | und0: how should i use the g++?? "g++ foo.cpp" isn't right? |
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| 14:09.53 | wickedpuppy | ah k |
| 14:09.56 | wickedpuppy | thanks dude |
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| 14:10.12 | davis | ok. many thanks. |
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| 14:10.23 | davis | i set it to be 15. Is that the normal value? |
| 14:10.42 | cahoot | davis: 33 here by the looks of it |
| 14:10.49 | mkl1525 | Hi! I'd like to rsync files that are newer than xx days from main to backup server. Found that rsync supports tar options in it's exclude options but I'd need the newer-mtime option as include option - any thoughts how to handle the problem? |
| 14:10.52 | davis | ok many thanks. |
| 14:11.13 | und0 | nostradam: depends princpally on your HW, opinions are various, someone find the 2.4.x series awfull |
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| 14:12.07 | und0 | micha__: g++ should be the compiler for C++ code, so don't know what could be wrong |
| 14:12.13 | nostradam | with vmware hardware compatibilty should be no issue...only main thing that remains is stabilty I guess.? |
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| 14:13.01 | micha__ | ok thanks |
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| 14:13.48 | nostradam | thanx und0 I think I'll go for the 2.6 kernel.. |
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| 14:14.52 | marioly | server irc.infogroup.cl |
| 14:15.03 | und0 | nostradam: if you find problems you can try the 2.4.x series =) |
| 14:15.09 | mfrisch | How do I get my fan to work on my laptop? |
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| 14:15.51 | aubergine | blow with it |
| 14:16.13 | nostradam | und0: I'll keep it in mind ;-) |
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| 14:17.06 | Snark | salut |
| 14:17.13 | Sredherr | Hola! |
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| 14:18.40 | Snark | I can post a comment to his blog |
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| 14:20.09 | tike | how do I disable the firewall ? |
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| 14:20.36 | kitchen | after some fruitless rtfming and stfwing, I can't seem to find how to verify an install (the equivalent of rpm -Va) hints? |
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| 14:21.23 | Sredherr | unfamiliar with rpm -Va |
| 14:21.23 | patofiero | [5~ |
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| 14:21.35 | kitchen | 'verify all installed packages' |
| 14:21.38 | Sredherr | what do ytou need to verify about the install? |
| 14:21.41 | und0 | Sredherr: you're not alone |
| 14:21.42 | tike | or how do I open a couple of ports ? |
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| 14:22.02 | Gozar | Hello. I have reseantley upgrated from woody to sarge, Now when I try to edit my crontab I get this error :"/tmp/crontab.RVOXKk/crontab":8: bad day-of-week errors in crontab file, can't install. I don't get the error! |
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| 14:22.06 | kitchen | well, I'd like to make sure for instance, that cron is still what I installed :-) |
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| 14:22.28 | greycat | tike: there is no firewall by default in debian. whatever firewall you have, *you* made it. |
| 14:22.35 | Sredherr | I think that aptitude will give you detailed info regarding all installed pkgs, but I am a newbie |
| 14:23.01 | tike | greycat: I know, debian based, I thought maybe there was a debian app to do that |
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| 14:23.04 | bonez39 | what might this mean: I have never seen this error before... > "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! scribus" it shows up with apt-get upgrade |
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| 14:23.10 | giskard | hi all |
| 14:23.16 | und0 | kitchen: so info about installed package? |
| 14:23.21 | greycat | !based on debian |
| 14:23.22 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 14:23.35 | kitchen | I'm looking for something like an md5sum compare |
| 14:23.47 | greycat | kitchen: debsums |
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| 14:23.59 | tike | ... |
| 14:24.01 | tike | :( |
| 14:24.37 | kitchen | bingo |
| 14:24.41 | kitchen | thanks greycat |
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| 14:25.16 | micha__ | ok i'm out, see you.. |
| 14:25.18 | ImEatingPringles | hi everybody, I'm a newbie at linux. Got a question about debconf. I've read that different options in the debconf menu depending on how you installed debian. My question is: how do you get those missing options to show up again? Do you have to recompile the kernel? |
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| 14:26.25 | und0 | ImEatingPringles: look for "dpkg-reconfigure" |
| 14:26.32 | nkuttler | ImEatingPringles: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 14:26.35 | ImEatingPringles | fantastic thank you |
| 14:26.38 | ImEatingPringles | thanks guys |
| 14:26.42 | micha__ | tasksel?? |
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| 14:27.17 | giskard | someone here has a nvidia pci-e card (especially a FX 6200) and can suspend (to disk) his laptop? |
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| 14:28.54 | Ungy | from command prompt how can I check for kernel version? |
| 14:29.03 | giskard | uname -a |
| 14:29.08 | Ungy | thanks |
| 14:29.11 | giskard | uname -r (sorry) |
| 14:29.21 | Supaplex | man uname ;) |
| 14:30.01 | Ungy | is it better to use 386 or 686 or is thre a huge difference |
| 14:30.12 | kitchen | depends |
| 14:30.23 | kitchen | if you have a 386, trying to use 686 would be a big difference :-) |
| 14:30.46 | und0 | =) |
| 14:30.49 | kitchen | heard using 686 on a 686 rathern than 386 on 686 is 10+% better |
| 14:30.50 | Supaplex | dimir: it's freely downloadable now. and instead of 111 levels of insanity, they have 10 more level sets for even more insanity. :) |
| 14:30.57 | greycat | kitchen: or an AMD. |
| 14:31.00 | Tye_ | How is it I check if a string contains something? Not grep is it? |
| 14:31.21 | greycat | Tye_: if [[ $foo = *bar* ]] ; then echo foo contains bar; fi |
| 14:31.27 | Tye_ | Thanks greycat! |
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| 14:32.21 | taker | !greenhouse |
| 14:32.21 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
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| 14:33.27 | mikeX | well said |
| 14:33.30 | dimir | yeah |
| 14:33.31 | dimir | :-) |
| 14:34.39 | jonkri | can i have postgresql and mysql installed both at the same time? |
| 14:34.52 | greycat | yes |
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| 14:35.51 | TK-1 | yo people what the command to get into the config for me video again pls |
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| 14:36.16 | illsci | whats a apt-get source for sarge.... where do they ahve them listen on debian.org |
| 14:36.24 | illsci | i only used cdrom when i set it up |
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| 14:36.31 | illsci | and i want to use debian.org now... |
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| 14:36.46 | giskard | TK-1, dpkg-reconfigure -plow xerver-xorg? |
| 14:37.26 | TK-1 | i dont think its that one |
| 14:37.26 | greycat | giskard: nice ass-umption. |
| 14:37.46 | greycat | illsci: apt-setup |
| 14:37.57 | giskard | greycat, uhm..what is the answer? |
| 14:38.10 | illsci | thanks |
| 14:38.50 | stew | !drxx TK-1 |
| 14:38.52 | dpkg | TK-1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 14:39.05 | TK-1 | cheers stew |
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| 14:39.40 | giskard | greycat, what are the difference between my and stew answer? |
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| 14:39.57 | stew | giskard: he's likely not using xorg |
| 14:40.00 | s_ward | giskard, xfree86 (not everyone is silly enough to run testing or unstable) |
| 14:40.18 | giskard | stew, right :) |
| 14:40.19 | greycat | giskard: you assumed he's using sid. not safe to assume. |
| 14:40.25 | und0 | me2 |
| 14:40.44 | stew | giskard: and -plow is not needed btw, low is the default for dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 14:41.08 | Gavrila | does anyone know how to solve spamassassin problem against laast perl upgrade in sid? |
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| 14:42.18 | TK-1 | whats the commands to start a the gui again people |
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| 14:42.23 | TK-1 | summin like startx |
| 14:42.25 | TK-1 | is it? |
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| 14:42.31 | stew | TK-1: startx |
| 14:42.47 | stew | TK-1: or /etc/init.d/?dm restart |
| 14:42.53 | dimir | !greenhouse |
| 14:42.53 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 14:43.02 | dimir | oh, OK |
| 14:43.04 | giskard | stew, why deboconf ask for a standard priority? |
| 14:43.22 | stew | giskard: dpkg-reconfigure ignores the debconf settings and does low |
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| 14:43.58 | tdela | topic |
| 14:44.01 | stew | giskard: (read the dpkg-reconfigure manpage) |
| 14:44.03 | tdela | er |
| 14:44.11 | giskard | stew, i'm reading it. |
| 14:44.13 | tdela | baaaaah Xorg still busted, damnit. |
| 14:44.29 | tdela | whats going on with it? I mean what happens when it breaks? |
| 14:44.47 | Gavrila | no one using spamassassin ? :( is it old fashioned? |
| 14:44.56 | greycat | tdela: what problem are you having? |
| 14:45.14 | stew | tdela: anything we know of is in the bts |
| 14:45.34 | greycat | "beware breakage" just means things *might* break |
| 14:45.38 | tdela | greycat: That I can't install debian til its fixed :( |
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| 14:45.54 | stew | tdela: don't use sid, just stick with sarge or etch |
| 14:45.58 | tdela | I'm waiting to install it again until xorg is all fixed again. |
| 14:46.08 | tdela | stew: is that xorg though, i mean its probably still 4.x? |
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| 14:46.36 | stew | tdela: its xfree86 with some drivers backported from xorg |
| 14:46.39 | greycat | tdela: what the fuck are you talking about? |
| 14:46.42 | keith80403 | Is there an RPM <-> apt/dpkg cross reference list somewhere? |
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| 14:47.13 | Ungy | can I safely apt-get install grub over a lilo and not encounter any problems I ma doign this remotley |
| 14:47.26 | tdela | to sum it up, i want the latest X for radeon 9800 pro support? |
| 14:47.37 | greycat | ask #ati |
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| 14:48.47 | stew | whois tdela |
| 14:48.48 | s_ward | Ungy, does lilo work? Do you really need grub? If the answers are "yes" and "no" (or other non-"yes" answer) respectively, I'd stick with lilo. |
| 14:48.51 | stew | err |
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| 14:48.54 | PissedTrixBunny | hi. I created a file call ".xsession" in my ~/ directory and put "exec /usr/bin/startfluxbox" and in my .fluxbox/startup I put "xterm&", yet it doesn't seem to start up xterm when I log in... did I name something incorrectly? |
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| 14:48.59 | cmartine | how do you convert an ext2 to ext3 filesystem live |
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| 14:49.06 | lindenle | cmartine: |
| 14:49.07 | drac | tdela: If you want 3D, you can install ATi propietary drivers for XFree86 or X.org, and it doesn't make big difference wich one is it. But if you choose to use Open Source, currently only 2D, you definately want X.org. |
| 14:49.13 | lindenle | cmartine: tune2fs -j |
| 14:49.20 | stew | cmartine: /msg dpkg ext2->ext3 |
| 14:49.22 | SnuS | how can I have a 20 load avarage, when my top process(imap) is using 5% cpu and 0.3% mem ? and the system is crawling |
| 14:49.29 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: I'd just put xterm& in the .xsession file before the exec startfluxbox |
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| 14:49.56 | greycat | SnuS: top, vmstat |
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| 14:50.07 | SnuS | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.18 | mwilson | PissedTrixBunny: Yes, it never got to the xterm invocation. Also, I doubt you have a binary named "xterm&". |
| 14:50.19 | Ungy | s_ward I have one machien with llo and 11 others with grub so I figured using the same for all is probably best |
| 14:50.19 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, the file name ".xsession" is correct? |
| 14:50.26 | SnuS | as I said, I used top, sorting by cpu and mem, and nothing is using very much |
| 14:50.39 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: did fluxbox start? yes? then it's correct. |
| 14:50.43 | SnuS | nothing to bring it to 20 load. |
| 14:50.45 | cisco | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:50.57 | Gavrila | is anyone using spamassassin in sid? |
| 14:51.02 | greycat | SnuS: you need to dig deeper. look for heavy swapping, etc. |
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| 14:51.06 | PissedTrixBunny | mwilson, I don't mean to have just xterm, I wrote a script and has that in my ~/bin I want that script to start |
| 14:51.12 | s_ward | Ungy, well, you can apt-get install grub, and there will be no problem, until you grub-install over lilo |
| 14:51.18 | SnuS | greycat explain. |
| 14:51.22 | s_ward | Ungy, then you better make sure grub works |
| 14:51.29 | Ungy | ahh ok |
| 14:51.31 | greycat | SnuS: swapping. thrashing. paging in and out. |
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| 14:51.43 | SnuS | I suspect exiscan. |
| 14:51.58 | SnuS | greycat could you point me to some docs ? |
| 14:51.59 | mwilson | PissedTrixBunny: Whatever that's supposed to mean... the point is that "xterm&" does not mean the same thing as "xterm &" |
| 14:52.06 | stew | SnuS: exiscan would show up in top, afaik |
| 14:52.10 | greycat | SnuS: man vmstat, google, etc. |
| 14:52.15 | stew | SnuS: you want to look at vmstat |
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| 14:53.34 | greycat | mwilson: sure it does. |
| 14:53.57 | zjd__ | hey all, i just did a install of kernel-image-2.6.8-2, but ti didn't come with any net modules, so it doesn't recognize my ethernet card |
| 14:54.07 | greycat | zjd__: wrong. |
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| 14:54.26 | greycat | well, it might not recognize your ethernet card (we have no way of knowing...) but the first statement is wrong. |
| 14:54.27 | zjd__ | greycat, can you point me in a direction of where i went wrong? |
| 14:54.34 | LSorensen | zjd__: it comes with lots of network modules |
| 14:54.36 | illsci | how do you get sasl support into postfix on debian? |
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| 14:54.42 | LSorensen | zjd__: wat network card do you have? |
| 14:54.46 | TK-1 | ffs i give up my graphics card on me linux box has fukd up again |
| 14:54.49 | zjd__ | a generic realtek card |
| 14:54.57 | zjd__ | i was using rtl8139.o |
| 14:54.58 | zjd__ | before |
| 14:55.03 | greycat | zjd__: it's 8139too now. |
| 14:55.14 | LSorensen | zjd__: rtl8139 was replaced by 8139too |
| 14:55.16 | zjd__ | it ddidn't come with anything |
| 14:55.21 | zjd__ | with 8139 in the name |
| 14:55.25 | und0 | illsci: IIRC, you need to replicate the sasldb in the postfix chroot |
| 14:55.26 | LSorensen | zjd__: sure it does |
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| 14:55.36 | mwilson | greycat: Does it? Hm. News to me. I thought the separation mattered. (tests) Hm, you're right. My bad. So his only problem was one of ordering. Or does that depend on which shell you run .xsession with? |
| 14:55.36 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I tried putting "xterm &" and another script name into .xsession but it still would not start up... is there a global one that I can edit that makes a script start everytime anyone logon to the station? |
| 14:55.36 | drac | find /lib/modules | grep 8139 |
| 14:55.43 | zjd__ | maybe my locatedb isn't up to date |
| 14:55.47 | LSorensen | zjd__: dpkg -L kernel-image-2.6.8-2-cputype |grep 8139 |
| 14:55.48 | zjd__ | i will try that drac |
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| 14:55.53 | Tye_ | Am I blind for not seeing the problem with this? filename=`echo $1 | sed s/images\///` |
| 14:55.53 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, log into fluxbox I mean thanks |
| 14:55.54 | s_ward | PissedTrixBunny, try sticking the xterm line before your fluxbox line |
| 14:56.03 | greycat | mwilson: I have no clue what his .fluxbox/blahblah file does, so I simply suggested moving it into .xsession where I *know* what it'll do. |
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| 14:56.08 | zjd__ | what do you know |
| 14:56.08 | PissedTrixBunny | s_ward, that's what I did actually |
| 14:56.10 | zjd__ | you were right |
| 14:56.15 | zjd__ | =) |
| 14:56.17 | chris_ | this is odd, i have a machine with load 2.3,2.5,2.5 and top shows 100% cpu utilization but none of the listed processes show more than .1% cpu usage |
| 14:56.21 | mwilson | PissedTrixBunny: And did you follow his instructions and load the window manager LAST? |
| 14:56.28 | LSorensen | Tye_: filenale=`echo $1 | sed -e s%images/%%` |
| 14:56.30 | kurtak | PissedTrixBunny: do you put your startup apps in ~.fluxbox/apps? |
| 14:56.33 | chris_ | how does one find what's eating your cpu if top doesn't show it ? |
| 14:56.34 | LSorensen | Tye_: might be simpler. |
| 14:56.41 | kurtak | b/c that's where they should be |
| 14:56.43 | tdonahue | i am confused... i'm running sid, and yes I do understand that unstable does occasionally mean unstable, but why are so many libraries being uploaded with a new name (c2 at the end) when they look like they are just version upgrades/bug fixes.... |
| 14:56.44 | PissedTrixBunny | kurtak, no. |
| 14:56.47 | Tye_ | LSorensen: I've never seen the use of % before |
| 14:56.51 | PissedTrixBunny | mwilson, yes |
| 14:56.52 | zjd__ | darnig, when i try to insmod it says, -1 unknown symbol in module |
| 14:56.54 | LSorensen | tdonahue: c++ ABI change |
| 14:56.55 | tdonahue | does it have something to do with the gcc 4.0 conversion? |
| 14:57.02 | greycat | Tye_: or: filename=${1/images/} |
| 14:57.14 | LSorensen | Tye_: you can use any character as delimeter in sed. using something other than / is handy when you are trying to use / in the string |
| 14:57.18 | LSorensen | Tye_: and you forgot -e |
| 14:57.19 | mwilson | tdonahue: So, you run unstable, but can't be bothered to pay attention to d-d, or d-u? Yes, unstable is going through an ABI transition. |
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| 14:57.30 | stew | LSorensen: you don't need -e |
| 14:57.31 | greycat | LSorensen: -e is optional with only one argument |
| 14:57.32 | PissedTrixBunny | mwilson, it still wouldn't work |
| 14:57.33 | PissedTrixBunny | darn |
| 14:57.44 | kurtak | PissedTrixBunny: that's where i put mine, and it works. you have to check up on the syntax for that file. basically, apps that you want on start is a line like: [startup] xterm |
| 14:57.44 | Tye_ | LSorensen: That seems to work fine, thank you! |
| 14:57.45 | LSorensen | stew: well I feel safer always using it :) |
| 14:57.46 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: you really need to learn the joys of screen |
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| 14:57.57 | Phated | Hear hear. |
| 14:57.58 | stew | Tye_: it would also have workedif you put quotes around the "s/images\///" |
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| 14:58.02 | LSorensen | Tye_: most likely the shell was eating your \ |
| 14:58.09 | stew | yes |
| 14:58.17 | LSorensen | Tye_: you should have put the sed expression in single quotes or used \\ instead |
| 14:58.19 | stew | s/most likely// |
| 14:58.23 | tdonahue | mwilson, yes, i know the ABI transition is going on, i just didn't realize that was where the packages coming from |
| 14:58.46 | mwilson | tdonahue: So what you mean is that you didn't know the ABI transition was going on. It's OK to admit that. |
| 14:58.46 | greycat | Tye_: sorry, I forgot you had that extra / on it. filename=${1/images\//} |
| 14:59.22 | Tye_ | stew: I never get this ... It seems like belt and suspenders to have both "" and \/. |
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| 14:59.37 | mwilson | tdonahue: It's only been publicized all over, and discussed on mailing lists, and described in changelogs for all these packages you're seeing... there's no reason you'd have known about it. |
| 14:59.41 | zjd__ | it gave me an error when running insmod, but it seems to be working anyways |
| 14:59.42 | kurtak | PissedTrixBunny: there's more explanation about the fluxbox startup files and even an example "apps" file if you man fluxbox |
| 14:59.45 | Tye_ | stew: But wait, do I include the s within the quotes? I didn't try that |
| 14:59.49 | zjd__ | thank you guys for your help |
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| 15:00.49 | stew | Tye_: the shell used the belt and sed used the suspenders |
| 15:01.19 | zjd__ | if i want to load 8139too at boot time, i add "8139too" to my /etc/modules file? |
| 15:01.22 | stew | Tye_: inside the quotes, that makes the entire quoted expression an argument to sed that the shell doesn't try to interpret |
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| 15:02.27 | Tye_ | stew: Ah, thanks. I used to do s/"funny characters here"/foobar/ |
| 15:02.38 | kurtak | How can i remount my drives, say if i change fstab? |
| 15:02.53 | Tye_ | kurtak: mount -a works |
| 15:02.59 | kurtak | OH |
| 15:03.08 | technos | I'm just wondering why someone would wear both belt *and* suspenders. Some horrible fear of having their pants fall down? |
| 15:04.12 | greycat | maybe you just need pants that fit |
| 15:04.43 | stew | who needs pants anyway |
| 15:05.06 | Tye_ | technos: More chances for bling-bling |
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| 15:05.17 | technos | greycat: Typically those who need tighter pants are the ones least likely to wear a belt. |
| 15:05.21 | illsci | with dpkg how do you tell what package a file belongs to |
| 15:05.22 | illsci | ? |
| 15:05.30 | greycat | man dpkg |
| 15:05.31 | stew | illsci: dpkg -S filename |
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| 15:07.56 | Gavrila | I get this error with /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart: "Could not create INET socket on 127.0.0.1:783: Cannot assign requested address (IO::Socket::INET: Cannot assign requested address)" |
| 15:08.03 | Gavrila | what could it be? |
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| 15:09.50 | gumpstered | how can you which processes are tied to each of the open ports |
| 15:10.08 | stew | gumpstered: /msg dpkg open ports |
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| 15:10.20 | stew | Gavrila: are you running it as root? |
| 15:10.27 | Gavrila | _St, sure |
| 15:10.31 | Gavrila | stew, sure |
| 15:10.43 | stew | is something already listening on that port? |
| 15:11.07 | kurtak | Okay, so i mount my windows c: drive at startup, but i can't use any of it as a user b/c all files there have permissions: drwxr--r-- root root. Is it safe to chmod -R everything there? |
| 15:11.09 | Gavrila | shouldn't the error ,essage be different in that case? |
| 15:11.19 | greycat | chmod -R IS NEVER SAFE. |
| 15:11.30 | greycat | and it will have NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on a non-unix file system |
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| 15:11.39 | greycat | (which is not to say it's safe. it's just that it didn't kill you THIS time.) |
| 15:11.46 | fatal__ | kurtak: you can't chmod files on a fat/ntfs partition. |
| 15:11.53 | greycat | !vfatrw |
| 15:11.53 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS. |
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| 15:12.00 | Gavrila | stew: anyway netstat -a | grep 783 doesn't shot anything |
| 15:12.10 | kurtak | greycat, fatal__: OK, good to know |
| 15:12.18 | kurtak | What's the best thing to do then? |
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| 15:12.23 | streuner | Gavrila: what distro are you running actually? |
| 15:12.23 | stew | Gavrila: netstat -an |
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| 15:12.40 | kurtak | To get me as a user to use that drive?? |
| 15:12.54 | stew | Gavrila: without the n 783 will get translated using /etc/services |
| 15:12.56 | Gavrila | streuner: debian/unstable, everything was fine until yesterday upgrade (I didn't upgrade since 20 days) |
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| 15:13.10 | Gavrila | stew, I'm checking |
| 15:13.14 | streuner | Gavrila: so there is nothing in BTS? |
| 15:13.27 | Gavrila | streuner: I haven't been able to find anything |
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| 15:14.15 | kurtak | greycat, fatal__: I had "user" as part of the options in fstab for that drive, but that didn't seem to help. What's the best thing for me to do so that i can use the drive w/o being root? |
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| 15:14.25 | gumpstered | unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 337861 15064/postmaster /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432 |
| 15:14.29 | gumpstered | why does netstat -nalp show that instead of postgres running on port 5432?...no errors were in the log |
| 15:14.36 | streuner | Gavrila: Have you looked here too? http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/ |
| 15:14.52 | EEop | Hi, I'm reading the instructions to download the .jigdo files in the mirrors and I have no idea which file I must download. |
| 15:14.53 | Justin | gumpstered: uh, because postmaster is the actual name of the program? |
| 15:15.02 | EEop | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/jigdo-cd/ |
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| 15:15.19 | Gavrila | stew: I get this tcp 0 1 192.168.15.15:34971 127.0.0.1:783 SYN_SENT 6770/spamc |
| 15:15.20 | EEop | this is the server, and there is a lot of binary files |
| 15:15.30 | zjd__ | Does no kernel come with builtin smbfs support? Do i have to make my own kernel config to get smbfs mount support? |
| 15:15.36 | EEop | and which of those I must download? |
| 15:15.40 | greycat | kurtak: set the umask properly. |
| 15:15.44 | Gavrila | It shoouldn't be listening, am I wrong? |
| 15:15.48 | gumpstered | Justin but i dont see a postgres on an open port |
| 15:15.58 | Justin | gumpstered: did you configure it to open one? |
| 15:15.58 | Ungy | is gaim still broken in sid I can't find the bug number ;-( |
| 15:16.10 | zjd__ | never mind, i am a moron |
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| 15:16.18 | tekonivel | hello you lot. i'm finally in the process of setting up a GNU box at home, after years of llameness. i popped in to ask what's the kenrle version all the (ool Debian-cats run these days? |
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| 15:16.39 | streuner | Ungy: What does BTS say? |
| 15:16.51 | kurtak | greycat: i just tried remounting after changing the options field, taking out 'user' and putting in umask=002. is that not proper? |
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| 15:17.16 | greycat | kurtak: man mount, for the full set of options. |
| 15:17.17 | Ungy | streuner, BTS? |
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| 15:17.25 | streuner | !tell Ungy about bts |
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| 15:17.30 | tekonivel | i've set up the new unstable, and am running 2.8.6-2-686. kernel compilation will commence once i get to know which version i want |
| 15:17.42 | kurtak | alrighty |
| 15:17.47 | stew | tekonivel: why would you compile your own kernel? |
| 15:17.49 | Justin | tekonivel: you want the one that you already have |
| 15:17.58 | mwilson | Gaim was never broken in Sid. |
| 15:18.06 | streuner | hehe |
| 15:18.09 | agentbob | is there a url with instructions on upgrading from 3.1? |
| 15:18.18 | streuner | mwilson: is that a joke? :-) |
| 15:18.19 | tekonivel | stew: out of habit. besides i need some things compiled in, that are not |
| 15:18.19 | Justin | agentbob: upgrading to what? |
| 15:18.26 | agentbob | to latest stable? |
| 15:18.28 | mwilson | streuner: Not at all. |
| 15:18.34 | Ungy | streuner I have been searchign for it on here I can't freaking navigate this damned bts site |
| 15:18.35 | mwilson | agentbob: 3.1 IS the latest stable. |
| 15:18.40 | tekonivel | stew: it's also a great way to have a peek at the current features of the kernel |
| 15:18.41 | streuner | well, in this case you aren't running gaim... |
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| 15:19.00 | stew | tekonivel: are you planning on using udev? |
| 15:19.01 | agentbob | hmf... when i do apt-get upgrade;, it's showing 283 packages... |
| 15:19.02 | mwilson | streuner: I'm not? If you say so. I guess this window on my screen is only my imagination. |
| 15:19.02 | plugwash | what exactly is /var/lib for? |
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| 15:19.13 | stew | plugwash: /msg dpkg fhs |
| 15:19.13 | tekonivel | Justin: you reckon i won't want to have 2.6.11 |
| 15:19.28 | Justin | tekonivel: if you don't know if you need it or not, you don't need it. |
| 15:19.32 | agentbob | chance of things breaking if I go through with upgrading all those packages? |
| 15:19.50 | tekonivel | stew: well, i haven't been at Linux for a while, but that static /dev is a thing of the past by now, i hope |
| 15:19.52 | streuner | mwilson: lots of people said that gaim was horribly broken in sid last week... |
| 15:19.54 | tekonivel | Justin: now now... |
| 15:19.56 | mwilson | agentbob: And what are you currently running? |
| 15:20.03 | mwilson | streuner: Lots of people are morons, too. |
| 15:20.06 | stew | tekonivel: if you are going to use udev in sid, you need 2.6.12 |
| 15:20.07 | Gavrila | streuner: there's a similar bug but bottom line different, since it talks about already in use addresses |
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| 15:20.26 | tekonivel | stew: sid? this is etch |
| 15:20.32 | agentbob | mwilson? how do i find out? |
| 15:21.07 | tekonivel | stew: well, the latest unstable anyway |
| 15:21.08 | stew | 11:17 < tekonivel> i've set up the new unstable... |
| 15:21.26 | TK-1 | root |
| 15:21.40 | tekonivel | trout welds itself to tekonivels hand |
| 15:21.58 | stew | tekonivel: http://debian.org/releases |
| 15:21.58 | tekonivel | O_o |
| 15:22.08 | stew | tekonivel: stop, wtf are you talking about? |
| 15:22.18 | Gavrila | stew, what do you think about the result we found? where could I look at? |
| 15:22.29 | tekonivel | stew: lol |
| 15:22.46 | drac | stew: he just called you lamer online? :/ |
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| 15:22.59 | compubomb | which of these torrents do i need ? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/ |
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| 15:23.13 | compubomb | i mean, there is like 14 cd's |
| 15:23.17 | stew | Gavrila: i dunno |
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| 15:23.32 | stew | compubomb: you only need the first, or a netinst, read the install guide |
| 15:23.33 | compubomb | i just want to get the base of debian installed |
| 15:23.38 | compubomb | stew: k |
| 15:23.46 | stm | hi |
| 15:23.55 | stew | Gavrila: see if you can bind to the port with nc or something, maybe |
| 15:24.07 | Gavrila | Is anyone else here having problem starting spamassassin service in Sid? |
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| 15:24.18 | tekonivel | stew: there's a problem with udev on <2.6.12, then? |
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| 15:24.31 | greycat | tekonivel: stew: perhaps sid's new udev has migrated into etch |
| 15:24.51 | stew | greycat: he doesn't know if he's on etch or sid anyway |
| 15:25.05 | stew | greycat: it hasn't moved to etch yet |
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| 15:25.22 | sussudio | what the hell? |
| 15:25.22 | stew | tekonivel: the udev in sid requires 2.6.12, the udev in etch does not, you need to figure out which you are on |
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| 15:25.24 | tekonivel | stew: lol, you're damn right. i hope i'm on unstable |
| 15:25.34 | stew | tekonivel: i hope you are not |
| 15:25.39 | tekonivel | stew: <grin> |
| 15:25.54 | sussudio | what's with the hostnames? |
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| 15:26.05 | greycat | sussudio: http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 15:26.11 | sussudio | mreh. |
| 15:26.51 | tekonivel | about that trout-bashing. i'm gonna need some more of that |
| 15:27.12 | stew | tekonivel: stop talking about trout, or join #trout or something |
| 15:27.13 | tekonivel | sigh... i always was confused about this naming-scheme of Debian |
| 15:27.34 | tekonivel | stew: :) take it easy mate (: |
| 15:27.52 | tekonivel | oh well, so i'm on testing, the etch |
| 15:27.59 | tekonivel | that's the final verdict |
| 15:28.38 | greycat | !info udev etch |
| 15:28.40 | greycat | !info udev sid |
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| 15:28.48 | dpkg | udev: (/dev/ management daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.065-1 (sid), Packaged size: 296 kB, Installed size: 924 kB |
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| 15:28.54 | dpkg | udev: (/dev/ management daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.056-3 (etch), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 684 kB |
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| 15:30.02 | grendal_prime | what is the command to query memory status of a machine? |
| 15:30.22 | grendal_prime | thought dmesg gave that info but umm cant seem to find it |
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| 15:30.27 | tekonivel | grendal_prime: try free(1) |
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| 15:30.47 | tekonivel | grendal_prime: depends what you want, obviously |
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| 15:31.00 | grendal_prime | total memory on the macine is good |
| 15:31.06 | grendal_prime | actually i did find it with dmesg |
| 15:31.22 | tekonivel | grendal_prime: ok |
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| 15:32.02 | stew | grendal_prime: free || cat /proc/meminfo |
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| 15:34.16 | grendal_prime | thanks stew |
| 15:35.58 | TeamGuard | whats a good ftp daemon to use? |
| 15:36.19 | SnuS | I liked proftpd . |
| 15:36.30 | TeamGuard | I suppose I'll go with that then |
| 15:36.46 | TeamGuard | by the way, SnuS, are you Swedish? |
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| 15:37.10 | SnuS | TeamGuard no, I am not. nickname is inspired by snuff, though. |
| 15:37.54 | TeamGuard | fair enough! |
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| 15:45.33 | palius | how can i configure (username and password) my usb modem on debian... i've already install it, but i don't know how can i configure it!!help me! |
| 15:45.44 | sussudio | !irritate palius |
| 15:45.45 | dpkg | palius: HELP ME!!! where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol U FUX0RZ |
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| 15:46.04 | tekonivel | lol |
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| 15:46.14 | tekonivel | what a foul-mouthed bot |
| 15:46.52 | gumpstered | when a program asks for a port of an application it needs to connect to, can you just point it too the file name of the socket? |
| 15:47.24 | hax | does anyone recommend an rss reader? |
| 15:47.24 | palius | so can anyone help me?! :( |
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| 15:48.28 | tekonivel | hax: i use NewsTicker under Emacs, most other Emacsers use Gnus in that environment. Opera has rss reader too, but that's about all i know of |
| 15:48.40 | hax | tekonivel: eww, emacs |
| 15:48.41 | hax | heh |
| 15:48.50 | tekonivel | hax: :^) |
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| 15:49.07 | Thanatermesis | why did has removed rezound from testing ? |
| 15:49.26 | stew | gumpstered: no, port and domain sockets are completely different |
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| 15:49.54 | Gumby | should I be within a specific directory when running this? |
| 15:49.57 | stew | !why is rezound not in testing |
| 15:49.57 | dpkg | rezound is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=rezound |
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| 15:50.46 | Thanatermesis | thanks stew |
| 15:51.22 | hax | could someone please help me get bluez working? i'm stuck |
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| 15:51.52 | gumpstered | stew how do i get a program to use a domain socket instead of a port? |
| 15:52.39 | Thanatermesis | for what day lib*jack* version 0.100 are out ? :/ |
| 15:53.06 | stew | gumpstered: what program? |
| 15:53.34 | gumpstered | request tracker |
| 15:54.01 | stew | gumpstered: dunno, have you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/pkgname? |
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| 15:55.14 | TeamGuard | I just ran apt-get install apache, then apt-get install php4... however, the php module wasnt put in the apache module configuration file, and neither can I find the location of the php module... could anyone of you give me a hint? :) |
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| 15:56.49 | greycat | echo "$i" |
| 15:56.52 | greycat | ECHAN |
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| 15:57.42 | stew | TeamGuard: dpkg -L libapache-mod-php4 |
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| 15:59.00 | TeamGuard | you're my hero, stew |
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| 16:00.09 | fatal__ | TeamGuard: before you ask, use a2enmod. ;) |
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| 16:02.23 | joeyz34 | I'm in desperate need of help, our old IT manager left us with a debian box that's running our mail and website, and i need to find out how to assign a name server to the box so we can rehost our site since our other domain expired and we can't get ahold of the old IT manager who registered everything |
| 16:02.24 | madclicker | am trying to conect to a apt source at ftp://debian.lcs.mit.edu/ but am getting "connection refused" but i can lftp to the location? |
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| 16:02.57 | joeyz34 | I am a complete noob when it comes to debian though, so I'm very confused tryign to read online about using hostname, bind and ifcomfig |
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| 16:03.10 | mtnman | joeyz34: you can get free dns service at dyndns.org |
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| 16:04.06 | humbolt | how can I find out, where the font that I am using (I have the font name) is located on the hdd? |
| 16:04.11 | file-upload | HI |
| 16:04.17 | madclicker | never mind, it was a glitch |
| 16:04.23 | madclicker | works now |
| 16:04.27 | file-upload | jemand deutscher hier ? |
| 16:04.56 | sussudio | NEIN! |
| 16:05.00 | mtnman | humbolt: man find or man locate |
| 16:05.01 | madclicker | yahh |
| 16:05.13 | madclicker | ich fershtein |
| 16:05.20 | sussudio | !dachs file-upload |
| 16:05.22 | dpkg | file-upload: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
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| 16:05.45 | jph | darf ich dich wass fraggen? |
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| 16:06.13 | joeyz34 | mtnman, you'll have to excuse my ignorance, our current IT guy is on vacation and since I'm the most tech savvy (which isn't saying much at all) person still in the office, i've been assigned this task to get a .net website up |
| 16:06.18 | humbolt | mtnman: the name of the font is not necessarily the filename! |
| 16:06.31 | file-upload | könnt ihr mir bitte sagen welches ich leiber nehmen soll , suse 9.3 oder debian ? ist für ein server ? |
| 16:06.37 | joeyz34 | dyndns.org seems to assign _____.dyndns.org or something like tha |
| 16:06.38 | humbolt | there is some X tool fot that, as far as I remember. |
| 16:06.39 | joeyz34 | t |
| 16:06.52 | sussudio | joeyz34: that has exactly zero to do with debian, hasn't it? |
| 16:07.01 | sussudio | .net = microsoft |
| 16:07.08 | joeyz34 | I registered a domain name on godaddy.com and it's asking for our nameservers |
| 16:07.24 | greycat | joeyz34: and? |
| 16:07.40 | joeyz34 | and i don't know what they are |
| 16:07.45 | joeyz34 | from what i can find on google |
| 16:07.49 | greycat | they're the ones that you set up |
| 16:08.01 | file-upload | könnt ihr mir bitte sagen welches ich leiber nehmen soll , suse 9.3 oder debian ? ist für ein server ? |
| 16:08.06 | joeyz34 | yeah, that's where i'm lost |
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| 16:08.16 | joeyz34 | i'm confused on how to set one up |
| 16:08.19 | greycat | if you don't set up your own name servers for the domain, then you'll have to get go-daddy to do it, or something. assuming they offer that service |
| 16:08.28 | greycat | ask #dns or get the o'reilly book |
| 16:08.52 | joeyz34 | k, i'll head over there and ask |
| 16:08.54 | joeyz34 | thanks |
| 16:09.14 | Thanatermesis | how to look what repo are from a package ? |
| 16:09.34 | cahoot | humbolt: fc-cache -l? |
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| 16:10.28 | file-upload | kann mir jemand sagen `? |
| 16:10.29 | stew | Thanatermesis: i think you have your places in the wrong nouns |
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| 16:10.46 | file-upload | ? |
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| 16:10.57 | stew | !de |
| 16:10.58 | dpkg | [de] deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 16:11.33 | file-upload | lol |
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| 16:11.37 | file-upload | ok mach ich |
| 16:11.44 | file-upload | thx |
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| 16:12.27 | ZweIstEin | is debian better than fc4 ?? |
| 16:12.37 | ZweIstEin | ^^ |
| 16:12.50 | stew | ZweIstEin: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 16:12.57 | ZweIstEin | k |
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| 16:14.12 | mtnman | joeyz34: you can also pay them a small amount to do dns for any domain. |
| 16:14.14 | mtnman | humbolt: the name of the font is usually at least _part_ of the filename. |
| 16:14.14 | mtnman | joeyz34: i would recommend that you read the dns howto at tldp.org for an overview. |
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| 16:15.36 | dubski | hi, i've just created an rc.firewall file using quicktables... can anyone tell me how i can make this run on boot? |
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| 16:16.11 | steini | got problem compiling a kernel 2.6 |
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| 16:16.33 | streuner | steini: so just using a kernel-image instead? |
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| 16:16.52 | steini | ok try that |
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| 16:17.32 | steini | noone on that channel |
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| 16:17.47 | Phated | ... No one told you to go to another channel. |
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| 16:18.23 | steini | sorry littlebit confused at the moment :-) |
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| 16:19.12 | steini | what does this error messge mean "ake[1]: *** [include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h] Error 1"? |
| 16:19.39 | Gavrila | My network init script doesn't start dhclient automatically anymore, though it is specified in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:19.45 | Gavrila | any hint= |
| 16:19.45 | Gavrila | ? |
| 16:19.58 | sussudio | !any ideas |
| 16:19.58 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of ground beef, a little sauerkraut, and 42 three-legged hamsters. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 16:20.08 | greycat | it means "you can't compile a kernel yet. try a kernel-image" |
| 16:20.19 | Gavrila | maybe it's connected with spamd not assigning the local IP |
| 16:20.24 | steini | maybe i justok greycat try that |
| 16:21.16 | mwilson | Maybe not, since spamd wouldn't have anything to do with assigning any IP's. |
| 16:21.51 | Gavrila | Could not create INET socket on 127.0.0.1:783: Cannot assign requested address (IO::Socket::INET: Cannot assign requested address) |
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| 16:22.18 | Gavrila | mwilson: maybe yes then |
| 16:22.20 | stew | Gavrila: do you even have a loopback ineterface? |
| 16:22.27 | greycat | Gavrila: does "ifconfig -a" show a valid loopback? |
| 16:22.33 | Gavrila | stew: yes I should have |
| 16:22.38 | greycat | SHOULD?? |
| 16:22.56 | stew | Gavrila: we all agree that you should have |
| 16:22.59 | Gavrila | of course there is |
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| 16:23.38 | Gavrila | greycat: it was a way to imply that I'm clueless |
| 16:23.45 | LSorensen | Gavrila: custom kernel or what? |
| 16:23.48 | greycat | run "ifconfig -a" and check. |
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| 16:24.03 | Gavrila | greycat: already done, there's a valid lo |
| 16:24.14 | Gavrila | LSorensen: last 2.6.12 debian image |
| 16:24.18 | Gavrila | latest* |
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| 16:24.40 | LSorensen | Gavrila: was root running whatever caused the message? |
| 16:24.46 | Gavrila | LSorensen: sure |
| 16:25.04 | stew | Gavrila: can you bind to that socket with nc? |
| 16:25.05 | LSorensen | Gavrila: does netstat -anp|grep 783 show anything? |
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| 16:25.22 | Gavrila | LSorensen: nope |
| 16:25.22 | LSorensen | Gavrila: you can't connect a new process to a port until all other thigns have stopped using it |
| 16:25.35 | Gavrila | LSorensen: yes but it's free |
| 16:25.44 | LSorensen | Gavrila: an you still can't start spamassasin now? |
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| 16:25.57 | Gavrila | yep, spamd refuses to do it |
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| 16:26.26 | Gavrila | root@Punkov:/home/stefy # LANG="C" spamd |
| 16:26.26 | Gavrila | Could not create INET socket on 127.0.0.1:783: Cannot assign requested address (IO::Socket::INET: Cannot assign requested address) |
| 16:26.27 | LSorensen | Gavrila: well I can give it a shot on my machine... just a moment... |
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| 16:27.34 | Gavrila | LSorensen: thanks |
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| 16:29.22 | LSorensen | Gavrila: hmm, starts nicely. |
| 16:29.36 | LSorensen | Gavrila: 2.6.12 you said? |
| 16:29.39 | Gavrila | LSorensen: yes |
| 16:29.50 | Gavrila | Linux version 2.6.12-1-k7 (dilinger@mouth) (gcc version 4.0.1 (Debian 4.0.1-2)) #1 Wed Jul 20 23:17:47 UTC 2005 |
| 16:29.51 | LSorensen | Gavrila: hmm, I am still on 2.6.11, haven't rebooted in a while |
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| 16:30.31 | greycat | is that a custom kernel? |
| 16:30.32 | LSorensen | Gavrila: unless unix sockets, or the loopback or something is broken, I don't really have a clue. Did you try rebooting inncase your machine is just crazy? |
| 16:30.42 | stew | no thats sid's kernel |
| 16:30.45 | LSorensen | greycat: it looks like the current kernel in sid |
| 16:30.47 | Gavrila | LSorensen: since yesterday upgrade (it was 15 days I didnt' upgrade) I had this problem and the network init not starting dhcp anymore |
| 16:30.49 | greycat | ah, I didn't know sid had .12 now |
| 16:31.04 | LSorensen | greycat: yeah linux-image-2.6.12 (no more kernel-image-*) |
| 16:31.20 | greycat | !kernel of gratuitous change |
| 16:31.20 | dpkg | Linux 2.6; see <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513> |
| 16:31.46 | Gavrila | LSorensen: yes I rebooted already |
| 16:31.48 | LSorensen | Gavrila: very odd. well something mustbe causing it. You could try booting 2.6.11, and you could try just rebooting, and see if either helps. |
| 16:32.00 | Gavrila | LSorensen: ok Im' trying the older kernel |
| 16:32.01 | LSorensen | Gavrila: obviously something changed that isn't happy. |
| 16:32.21 | Gavrila | LSorensen: ehe yes, but I didn't find any clue yet :) thanks for the help BRB with .11 |
| 16:32.30 | LSorensen | gav: If nothing helps, maybe a bug report would get you help from the maintainer if anything is known to have changed that could cause problems. |
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| 16:32.49 | me2you | hello, how am I able to e2fsck my disk and let e2fsck to fix errors without i need to reboot my computer? |
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| 16:33.27 | greycat | FUCK. It's linux-headers-2.6.12* too. |
| 16:33.42 | LSorensen | greycat: yep. replace kernel with linux in headers, image and source |
| 16:33.43 | greycat | that means all our FAQs that have "apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" will break. |
| 16:33.51 | LSorensen | greycat: that's right. m-a is rather confused too |
| 16:34.00 | LSorensen | greycat: d-i is messed up, etc. |
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| 16:36.27 | me_here | where is libatk-bridge ? i cannot find it through apt |
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| 16:36.46 | concept10 | I am installing a new Sarge server, but I forgot to yank the Hauppage TV GO card out of there. Will removing this free system resources? It will not be used. |
| 16:37.11 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: Shouldnt make a difference |
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| 16:37.52 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: The only had it will effect anything is if you set it up, and run it.. |
| 16:37.57 | LSorensen | concept10: shouldn't matter unless you actually load the driver (which probably isn't installed) |
| 16:38.28 | Gavrila | LSorensen: yes .11 is fine.... damn I've lost a lot of time and didn't think about the new kernel.. :( |
| 16:38.40 | LSorensen | Gavrila: hmm, ick! |
| 16:38.47 | TwistedEmotions | ident still aint working huh? |
| 16:38.50 | Farris1 | How would you do a search and replace in vim to replace a backslash and a newline with ""? |
| 16:38.55 | Ungy | is there a program that can convert from openoffice documents to pdf format? |
| 16:38.58 | LSorensen | Gavrila: So who does the bug report go to? new kernel people or spam assasin or perl? |
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| 16:39.10 | LSorensen | Ungy: like load openoffice, select save as pdf |
| 16:39.18 | Ungy | seriously? |
| 16:39.19 | agentbob | is there anyway to get the deafult mysql-server conf file from the package? |
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| 16:39.42 | dextroso | hi all |
| 16:39.53 | Gavrila | LSorensen: I don't know really, cause I don't know how the port binding works for spamassassin |
| 16:39.55 | Ungy | LSorensen, I don;t see pdf as available format |
| 16:40.11 | agentbob | i chose not to overwrite while installing, and now mysql wont boot... |
| 16:40.19 | LSorensen | Gavrila: well the error is clearly from a perl program, so I guess either perl has to learn something about 2.6.12 or 2.6.12 actually broke something |
| 16:40.29 | LSorensen | Ungy: I am pretty sure it's a seperate option in openoffice |
| 16:40.43 | mwilson | Ungy: Or maybe just by pushing the PDF button in the toolbar? |
| 16:40.49 | dextroso | anyone have avermedia tv card? |
| 16:40.52 | Gavrila | anyway since the dhcp prblem I'd say it's a kernel bug either, or something changed the way .12 handles things |
| 16:41.02 | LSorensen | Ungy: file: export as pdf |
| 16:41.10 | Gavrila | LSorensen: yes, we're saying almost the same thing :) |
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| 16:41.22 | LSorensen | Gavrila: I believe dhcp uses a socket system too, so yeah maybe there is a bug in the 2.6.12 packages. |
| 16:41.29 | Ungy | mwilson ahh damn I shouldn't hide toolbar |
| 16:41.40 | wers | is there a gtk-based config tool for samba like SWAt? |
| 16:41.44 | pmitros | If I have a computer running Debian with two hard drives, and I'd like to install Debian on the other drive, is there any reasonable way to do that? Or should I just reboot to a Debian install CD? |
| 16:41.53 | mwilson | wers: Does there need to be one? |
| 16:41.58 | Gavrila | LSorensen: thanks for your help |
| 16:42.06 | stew | pmitros: /msg dpkg chroot-install ; /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 16:42.11 | wers | mwilson .. yes i cant get swat to work.. |
| 16:42.15 | pmitros | stew: Thanks. |
| 16:42.31 | LSorensen | pmitros: you could either copy everything over after making partitions and such, or do a debootstrap after making partitions, or boot the installer. booting the installer would of course take care of everything and is probably simplest |
| 16:42.43 | Gavrila | LSorensen: anyway what could I file a s bug? I mean should I just tell them "it's not working well?" |
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| 16:42.54 | mwilson | wers: Really. And what does that mean, exactly, and why would a GTK configuration tool make any difference? |
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| 16:43.15 | LSorensen | Gavrila: spamassasin's spamd can't bind socket with 2.6.12 but can with 2.6.11, and dhcp client doesn't work with 2.6.12 but does with 2.6.11 |
| 16:43.28 | LSorensen | Gavrila: add some details. run: reportbug linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 |
| 16:43.34 | LSorensen | Gavrila: answer some questions |
| 16:43.37 | wers | mwilson after reading the doc i tried to connect to localhost:901 but it just keeps connecting..... |
| 16:43.49 | wers | mwilson so i figured there is another tool.. |
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| 16:44.15 | marcel_ | hi |
| 16:44.20 | Gavrila | LSorensen: I didn't say dhclietn doesnt' work... I said it's not started by the network inint script, I have to start it manually after the initi |
| 16:44.26 | marcel_ | i have a problem installing debian |
| 16:44.35 | Gavrila | anyway I'll do that way thanks |
| 16:44.37 | mwilson | wers: And did you actually *install* swat? Is it listed in inetd.conf, as it should be? Did you restart inetd? |
| 16:44.49 | marcel_ | it doesn't find my partitions! i guess the installer is using parted? |
| 16:44.49 | wers | mwilson . yes, and yes |
| 16:44.59 | LSorensen | Gavrila: hmm, ok that's a bit odd too though |
| 16:45.08 | agentbob | where can i find default config files for a given package? |
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| 16:45.22 | mwilson | agentbob: In the package, of course. |
| 16:45.24 | wers | agentbob .. google.. ; ) |
| 16:45.40 | marcel_ | with fdisk and cfdisk i can see the partition tables but with parted there is an error |
| 16:45.53 | LSorensen | marcel_: and the error is? |
| 16:45.56 | agentbob | mwilson: how do i extract it from the package? |
| 16:46.01 | stew | agentbob: there are example configs for mysql-server in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/examples |
| 16:46.14 | agentbob | stew: thanks! |
| 16:46.27 | LSorensen | agentbob: well you could use dpkg-dev -x package /some/tmp/dir to extract everything to somewhere and go find the config files |
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| 16:47.42 | stew | the config files wouldn't be there though, they are created by debconf |
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| 16:48.02 | LSorensen | stew: some config files are generated by debconf. |
| 16:48.08 | zbiw | hello |
| 16:48.16 | zbiw | i'm french but i need some help |
| 16:48.17 | mwilson | oooh, new netrw |
| 16:48.17 | stew | LSorensen: there is only one, and its generated by debconf |
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| 16:48.30 | marcel_ | LSorensen: "Error: Unable to satisfy all contsraints on the partition" |
| 16:48.40 | stew | LSorensen: oh nm you are talking in general, i'm talking about mysql-server (which is what he's worried about) |
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| 16:48.51 | LSorensen | stew: well then the default is whatever your answers to the questions causes it to generate |
| 16:49.07 | zbiw | i try to mount a ide hard drive on my pc by usb |
| 16:49.24 | zbiw | when mount is done |
| 16:49.28 | Lorvija | whats the easiest way of backupping whole system to usb drive and also one remote system which is running linux? |
| 16:49.38 | ffod | dae galera |
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| 16:49.52 | zbiw | yeah but |
| 16:50.04 | zbiw | only root can read files |
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| 16:50.12 | zbiw | so i try chmod or chown |
| 16:50.17 | Flendor | Evening. |
| 16:50.24 | zbiw | but it doesn't work |
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| 16:50.55 | stew | zbiw: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 16:50.57 | zbiw | i can't read music files on the hard drive mounted on usb |
| 16:51.01 | concept10 | what package should I install to get openssh? is it openssh-server? |
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| 16:51.24 | stew | concept10: if you are on sid, yes |
| 16:51.33 | concept10 | stew, sarge |
| 16:51.35 | stew | concept10: on sarge/etch it's ssh |
| 16:51.52 | concept10 | alright, thanks stew |
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| 16:53.03 | sinned_ | hello |
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| 16:53.35 | sinned_ | anyone here ever installed k3b on debian |
| 16:53.39 | zbiw | what are the option i should use with chmod and chown to read all the files ? |
| 16:53.44 | oscar | I have a sony vgn-s260 laptop and thinking of moving it to debian any pointers. (I am going to use debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso unless anyone thinks i should try something different) |
| 16:53.50 | zbiw | i've tried chown -R |
| 16:53.54 | greycat | zbiw: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 16:53.58 | zbiw | but it doesn't work too |
| 16:54.02 | greycat | zbiw: you CANNOT chmod or chown on a DOS file system |
| 16:54.08 | oscar | thinking = doing |
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| 16:54.23 | zbiw | ok |
| 16:54.29 | zbiw | the file system is ntfs |
| 16:54.31 | sinned_ | or does anyone know how to deal with libtasn1-2-dev: Depends: libtasn1-2 (= 0.2.10-3) but 0.2.10-4 is to be installed |
| 16:54.41 | sinned_ | i've come across this so many times trying to install obscure packages |
| 16:55.04 | greycat | zbiw: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 16:55.39 | greycat | !user accessible ntfs |
| 16:55.39 | dpkg | To get an NTFS or VFAT file system accessible by users and groups on the local machine, man mount; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, fmask, dmask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like conv=auto,uid=<user>,gid=<group>,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 into your fstab's mount option field |
| 16:55.41 | greycat | that one too. |
| 16:56.10 | zbiw | so how can i do to read files on usb drive whithout being root |
| 16:56.29 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 16:56.31 | stew | zbiw: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 16:56.33 | sinned_ | use gid= |
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| 16:56.51 | sinned_ | make the usb drive's entry in fstab automatically set the gid to a group that whatever users you want to access it are a part of |
| 16:56.54 | zbiw | what is /msg dpkg vfatrw? |
| 16:56.58 | zbiw | please ? |
| 16:56.58 | greycat | fuckin' hell. you tell them THREE TIMES, once even a spoonfeeding, and they just sit there and ask the same fucking question over and over... |
| 16:57.14 | stew | zbiw: type that into your irc client, and the dpkg bot tells you what you need to know |
| 16:57.18 | s_ward | zbiw, try typing it in your irc client |
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| 16:57.35 | yuacht | how do i reconfig packages? |
| 16:57.42 | greycat | man dpkg-reconfigure |
| 16:57.48 | greycat | depends on the package though |
| 16:57.53 | zbiw | ho thank's |
| 16:57.53 | sinned_ | greycat, any idea how to override Depends: libtasn1-2 (= 0.2.10-3) but 0.2.10-4 is to be installed |
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| 16:58.01 | sinned_ | like to change that to >= |
| 16:58.09 | greycat | sinned_: /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 16:58.13 | sinned_ | ok |
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| 16:58.27 | Nick_Hacked | I NEED HLPE |
| 16:58.27 | ma3x | Hi, this is annoying me - on every KDE startup, before it loads completly, I get the sound too LOUD. And then when it finishes loading, it's diminished again |
| 16:58.35 | stew | sinned_: what package? in general you shouldn'thave to mess with that |
| 16:58.50 | sinned_ | stew, i'm trying to install kdelibs4-dev |
| 16:58.55 | sinned_ | but it has a chain of unmet dependencies |
| 16:59.01 | zbiw | thank's very much |
| 16:59.06 | zbiw | i'll try it now |
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| 16:59.10 | Fabsmad | I'v downloaded a .bin file. Could be this file an image (like .iso) to write in a CDrom? If yes, how can I do this on debian? |
| 16:59.12 | zbiw | sorry i'm newbie on debian |
| 16:59.17 | stew | sinned_: on sid? |
| 16:59.22 | sinned_ | and the 4th in the chain, dpkg is trying to install libtasn1-2 version 0.2.10-4 |
| 16:59.28 | zbiw | and i'm not used to use irc |
| 16:59.32 | yuacht | greycat, thanks... you don't happen to know how to remove the driver installed by official nvidia.sh files? |
| 16:59.34 | sinned_ | and it requires 0.2.10-3 specifically |
| 16:59.42 | sinned_ | apt-get doesn't have the -3 version available |
| 16:59.45 | zbiw | and i speak english juste a bit |
| 16:59.49 | ma3x | hello do you know why the sound level is so much different,before and after 'KDE initialization' |
| 16:59.51 | stew | sinned_: you are not on debian |
| 16:59.53 | sinned_ | stew, i dont' even know, i dist-upgraded from unstable |
| 16:59.57 | sinned_ | err to unstable |
| 17:00.01 | stew | sinned_: or you need to apt-get update |
| 17:00.09 | stew | !info libtasn1-2 sid |
| 17:00.09 | ma3x | hi stew |
| 17:00.20 | dpkg | libtasn1-2: (Manage ASN.1 structures (runtime)), section libs, is important. Version: 0.2.13-1 (sid), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 17:00.36 | stew | sinned_: ^^^ if you were on unstable it woudl be trying to install 0.2.13-1 |
| 17:00.37 | sinned_ | oh |
| 17:00.38 | sinned_ | haha |
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| 17:00.43 | Nick_Hacked | i need teh help!!! |
| 17:00.47 | sinned_ | i'm not on anything at this point |
| 17:00.50 | stew | sinned_: no current debian version has 0.2.10-4 |
| 17:00.52 | sinned_ | i've had this same problem with other packages |
| 17:00.56 | Nick_Hacked | plz help!! |
| 17:01.08 | sinned_ | my sources.list has stable, testing, experimental, and unstable |
| 17:01.16 | stew | Nick_Hacked: we cannot help until you ask a question |
| 17:01.18 | nkuttler | !tell Nick_Hacked about ask |
| 17:01.25 | stew | sinned_: wtf |
| 17:01.26 | Nick_Hacked | how do i get porn off of my computer. |
| 17:01.35 | stew | Nick_Hacked: man rm |
| 17:01.45 | sinned_ | i can't remmeber why i have all of them |
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| 17:01.57 | sinned_ | deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable ./ |
| 17:01.57 | sinned_ | deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/sarge/ ./ |
| 17:01.59 | Nick_Hacked | but it's like all over |
| 17:02.03 | sinned_ | i have weird sites like that in it |
| 17:02.04 | Nick_Hacked | and there's goatse on the front |
| 17:02.07 | Nick_Hacked | i think i got a virus |
| 17:02.09 | TwistedEmotions | What port does cups work on? |
| 17:02.14 | LSorensen | TwistedEmotions: 631 |
| 17:02.21 | sinned_ | mplayer really made my dependency tree fucked up |
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| 17:02.27 | sinned_ | i think i had to install a few things from source |
| 17:02.40 | sinned_ | and install 3rd party .deb packages off other sites |
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| 17:02.46 | TwistedEmotions | LSorensen: thanks ;) |
| 17:03.17 | zbiw | i've edit fstab to : |
| 17:03.22 | zbiw | # /etc/fstab: static file system information. |
| 17:03.22 | zbiw | # |
| 17:03.22 | zbiw | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> |
| 17:03.23 | zbiw | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
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| 17:03.26 | zbiw | /dev/hda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 17:03.27 | sinned_ | i'm trying to compile k3b from source right now because apt-get's dependencies for the k3b package don't work for me |
| 17:03.28 | zbiw | /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 |
| 17:03.30 | zbiw | /dev/hda7 /var ext3 defaults 0 2 |
| 17:03.32 | stew | zbiw: stop |
| 17:03.32 | zbiw | /dev/hda8 /windows vfat defaults 0 2 |
| 17:03.34 | zbiw | /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 17:03.36 | zbiw | /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 17:03.37 | s_ward | zbiw, please don't paste here |
| 17:03.38 | zbiw | /dev/sda1/media/sdantfsdefaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=00200 |
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| 17:03.42 | nkuttler | zbiw: stop spamming |
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| 17:03.44 | s_ward | !tell zbiw about paster |
| 17:03.44 | Nick_Hacked | http://www.howtofoldashirt.net/singing_in_the_rain_remix.phphttp://www.howtofoldashirt.net/singing_in_the_rain_remix.phphttp://www.howtofoldashirt.net/singing_in_the_rain_remix.phphttp://www.howtofoldashirt.net/singing_in_the_rain_remix.phphttp://www.howtofoldashirt.net/singing_in_the_rain_remix.phphttp://www.howtofoldashirt.net/singing_in_the_rain_remix.phphttp://www.howtofoldashirt.net/singing_in_the_rain_remix.php |
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| 17:04.07 | sinned_ | Depends: dbus-qt-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not installable... plus it requires gcc 4.0 and a version of libxrender1 that isn't even in testing |
| 17:04.11 | agentbob | hmmm i think /etc/init.d/mysql was supposed to be updated but wasn't during the upgrade.. |
| 17:04.12 | zbiw | i'm sorry |
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| 17:04.29 | sinned_ | i don't undersatnd how anyone is able to install the k3b package if it's requiring versions of a package that isn't in testing yet |
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| 17:04.34 | goccia | sinned_: i see on my sarge-a-bit-sid-a-lot-alioth no problems : Conf kdelibs4-dev (4:3.4.1-1 experimental-debian-qt-kde:experimental) |
| 17:04.38 | concept10 | I have just setup a new Sarge default install. Anyone know a good tutorial to create an environment to setup a couple of websites? I have two computers (desktop and sarge server) behind a wireless router with cable internet, static IP |
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| 17:04.44 | mwilson | sinned_: Perhaps they aren't. |
| 17:04.46 | pack | i was installing debian on a laptop and the power went out wiht out configuring everything. any good ways to reconfig? |
| 17:04.47 | zbiw | so now i should mount /media/sda if i understood |
| 17:04.48 | zbiw | ? |
| 17:05.03 | sinned_ | ok goccia let me see if i'm trying to get the same version as you, 3.4.1-1 |
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| 17:05.17 | mwilson | goccia: Gee, and yours doesn't have ANYTHING unofficial in it, does it? </sarcasm> |
| 17:05.18 | goccia | sinned_: sources are stable and alioth |
| 17:05.22 | nkuttler | pack: were you still in the installer? what part? |
| 17:05.32 | goccia | mwilson: :) |
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| 17:05.47 | Ferhat_ | hi |
| 17:06.04 | agentbob | salutations |
| 17:06.12 | pack | nkuttler: after you reboot and you've selected what type of machine you wish to install |
| 17:06.14 | sinned_ | goccia, what's alioth |
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| 17:06.24 | Ferhat_ | /etc/init.d/mysqld is deleted how to make mysql startup script or restore ? |
| 17:06.26 | sinned_ | is that the new testing ? |
| 17:06.30 | nkuttler | pack: what type of machine? |
| 17:06.38 | nkuttler | pack: ... what were the choices? |
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| 17:06.58 | agentbob | ferhat: having the same problem... |
| 17:06.59 | pack | nkuttler: i plugged the machine back in and turned it on and it went into X just fine. it's just going to be a desktop. Desktop, Mail server, Print Server |
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| 17:07.05 | goccia | sinned_: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 17:07.34 | stew | Ferhat_: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 17:08.02 | pablum | http://www.debian.org/ports/ |
| 17:08.03 | sinned_ | thanks goccia that might be exactly what i need |
| 17:08.04 | zbiw | i've edit fstab |
| 17:08.17 | zbiw | and when i mount dev/sda1 |
| 17:08.29 | goccia | sinned_: np :) |
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| 17:08.42 | nkuttler | pack: if x runs everything is good, maybe some packages weren't configured, try dpkg --configure --pending |
| 17:08.43 | zbiw | there is an error : /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sda busy |
| 17:08.54 | sinned_ | goccia, how's that go in sources.list |
| 17:08.55 | Ferhat_ | agentbob have solution ? |
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| 17:09.00 | mwilson | sinned_: So you're not going to run testing any more? |
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| 17:09.12 | s_ward | zbiw, type 'mount', is sda1 in that list? |
| 17:09.18 | pack | nkuttler: thanks |
| 17:09.24 | agentbob | ferhat: read stew's msg |
| 17:09.25 | sinned_ | mwilson, i think i'm going to try to force everything to unstable |
| 17:09.35 | sinned_ | unless mplayer doesn't want to work that way |
| 17:09.37 | goccia | sinned_: deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1 ./ |
| 17:09.49 | mwilson | Oh, brother. |
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| 17:09.56 | stew | sinned_: mplayer isn't in unstable either, /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 17:10.10 | agentbob | still doesn't work though... init.d/mysql is trying /usr/bin/safe_mysql when that doesn't exist.. theres a /usr/bin/mysqld_safe though |
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| 17:10.19 | goccia | sinned_: a couple of qt-bus-something are from sid just in case .. |
| 17:10.19 | juanma | hello |
| 17:10.20 | pablum | Any problem with the logic?: I'm using pure amd64 because (I have an amd64 and), although I lose some apps that haven't been ported to a amd64 architecture, I am less susceptible to security exploits because they are going to be written to a 32bit x86 environment (i.e., the most common architecture). |
| 17:10.26 | ana001 | ola |
| 17:10.29 | juanma | i have installed shorewall for using nat |
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| 17:10.43 | mwilson | pablum: How do you figure? |
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| 17:10.56 | juanma | and share the modem internetc conection of my server with the laptop |
| 17:10.58 | ubuser | hi! |
| 17:11.04 | juanma | but it does not work |
| 17:11.10 | pablum | no chroot environment for 32bit apps... hmm. if it doesn't require a library though... |
| 17:11.20 | Sarge3 | hi people! |
| 17:11.23 | juanma | can anybody help me? |
| 17:11.35 | TwistedEmotions | !tell juanma about ask |
| 17:11.36 | pablum | mwilson: is that all the chroot env is doing is altering lib paths? |
| 17:11.42 | nkuttler | !tell juanma about doesn't work |
| 17:11.56 | mwilson | pablum: No. |
| 17:12.05 | juanma | nkuttler: shorewall start |
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| 17:12.26 | juanma | nkuttler: does not allow me to conect to internet from my laptop |
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| 17:12.34 | juanma | using the server as gateway |
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| 17:13.12 | juanma | nkuttler: do you know how to use shorewall? |
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| 17:13.34 | Sarge3 | anyone know how to install the speedtouch in sarge? |
| 17:13.45 | goccia | juanma: shorewall works very well : you can get some pre-coocked conf on shorewall site , docs as well |
| 17:13.57 | Sarge3 | eciadsl is not supported |
| 17:14.15 | juanma | goccia: where can i find them? |
| 17:14.16 | Sarge3 | sorry for my english, but i'm italian :D |
| 17:14.39 | juanma | goccia: i need share my modem conection with a laptop |
| 17:14.41 | s_ward | Sarge3, if you prefer to speak Italian, you can try this: |
| 17:14.42 | s_ward | !it |
| 17:14.42 | dpkg | italian is probably per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 17:14.55 | Sarge3 | lol! |
| 17:14.59 | Sarge3 | bischeri lol |
| 17:14.59 | goccia | juanma: tell apt to get'em : apt-cache search shorewall | grep doc |
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| 17:15.40 | Sarge3 | no, i like to speak english, only that i'm not a teacher, so i don't speak english very well |
| 17:15.41 | Sarge3 | :D |
| 17:15.44 | juanma | goccia: I have it configured |
| 17:16.04 | juanma | goccia: but there is a bit thing that is wrong |
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| 17:16.32 | goccia | juanma: read shorewall-faq |
| 17:16.49 | werewolfi | does somebody know how to get the fonts within gtk smaller again after they automatically grown |
| 17:16.49 | juanma | goccia: yes, I had done it yet |
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| 17:17.26 | juanma | goccia: well, I have put this on /etc/shorewall/masq |
| 17:17.28 | uwe | is there a set of graphical adminstration tools used in debian |
| 17:17.33 | pepsi | werewolfi, you check the resolution in the font preference panel? |
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| 17:18.11 | juanma | ppp0 eth0 |
| 17:18.17 | goccia | juanma: perfect |
| 17:18.19 | werewolfi | pepsi: thx, i'll try |
| 17:18.22 | s_ward | Sarge3, have you seen this: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ |
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| 17:18.46 | juanma | goccia: the firewall works well, but the conection is inaccesible from the laptop |
| 17:19.28 | jwaugh | Hopefully someone can help me quick here.... anybody know why my computer would completely DIE? The entire things huts down it SEEMS when I'm using anything involving aptitude or package installation however, it's shut down a few times for no reason. |
| 17:19.38 | juanma | goccia: what sould I write in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 17:19.52 | fseek | jwaugh maybe faulty ram? |
| 17:20.07 | juanma | address 192.168.0.2 |
| 17:20.21 | TwistedEmotions | Question... I know this is probably the wrong room.. but I just put up a website and I want it on yahoo and google? How do I do that? |
| 17:20.22 | juanma | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 17:20.26 | jwaugh | Well, I HATE saying this here. When I was stupid using WinblowZ I never had the problem. :( |
| 17:20.32 | juanma | broadcast 192.168.0.255 |
| 17:20.46 | juanma | this was for the server |
| 17:21.12 | juanma | the following is for the laptop |
| 17:21.13 | jwaugh | TwistedEmotions :: use a search engine submit tool Google it. :-) I'm sure you'll find lots of them. |
| 17:21.15 | juanma | address 192.168.0.3 |
| 17:21.22 | goccia | juanma: i do not want to annoy people in here ,trust me : go and get a one/two/thre interfaces conf on shorewall site : just copy them up |
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| 17:21.35 | tico26 | anyone know of decent Point-of-Sale (POS) sw for linux that includes credit card support and uses buttons large enough for use w/ a touch screen? |
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| 17:22.07 | juanma | goccia I have read the two interfaces shorewall doc |
| 17:22.32 | juanma | and I have done all that is said there |
| 17:22.50 | juanma | I only modified these archives: |
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| 17:23.19 | juanma | interfaces, masq, zones, policy and shorewall.conf |
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| 17:23.57 | goccia | juanma: you need two lines in interfaces : net ppp0 detect routefilter,norfc1918,tcpflags,blacklist and loc eth0 or 1 192.168.1.255 tcpflags |
| 17:24.08 | LSorensen | tico26: credit card support often involves some proprietary interface with whichever company you deal with for credit card transactions. There is not as far as I know a standard for that. |
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| 17:24.24 | PSparrow | hi, I'm looking for a reduced mirror of sid, to use it at home |
| 17:24.25 | LSorensen | tico26: as for PoS software, never looked. freshmeat.net might find some. |
| 17:24.34 | PSparrow | is there something like? |
| 17:24.36 | juanma | goccia: please, can you repeat me that? |
| 17:24.40 | LSorensen | PSparrow: just make one. apt-cacher, apt-proxy, etc |
| 17:24.54 | LSorensen | PSparrow: apt-move |
| 17:25.02 | s_ward | juanma, scroll up |
| 17:25.05 | PSparrow | LSorensen, but this is very big |
| 17:25.07 | tico26 | yeah -- found plenty on freshmeat, didn't see anything that fit the bill too closely -- was hoping someone had something they could recommend ... :( |
| 17:25.20 | PSparrow | I want one with only important packages |
| 17:25.21 | juanma | I mean, i cannot distiguis the two lines |
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| 17:25.26 | PSparrow | about 3 or 4 gb |
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| 17:25.36 | toresbe | hey guys |
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| 17:25.47 | toresbe | What's the oneliner to enable tcp routing? |
| 17:26.04 | goccia | juanma: in this chan all bots are not vegetarian : they will eat me alive if i do that |
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| 17:26.13 | agentbob | theres no apt-cache search anymore? |
| 17:26.23 | astronut | agentbob: since when? |
| 17:26.33 | fseek | toresbe echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 17:26.41 | s_ward | agentbob, works on both my sarge and my sid box |
| 17:26.42 | fseek | if you mean ip routing |
| 17:26.44 | agentbob | apt-cache seach gtk |
| 17:26.45 | agentbob | E: Invalid operation seach |
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| 17:26.51 | juanma | goccia: XD |
| 17:27.04 | agentbob | err |
| 17:27.06 | agentbob | right |
| 17:27.08 | astronut | agentbob: add an 'r' |
| 17:27.11 | juanma | well, i will done it, |
| 17:27.17 | agentbob | hehehe |
| 17:27.21 | agentbob | mea culpa |
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| 17:28.21 | toresbe | fseek: there it was, thanks |
| 17:28.25 | stew | toresbe: edit /etc/network/options ; /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 17:28.31 | toresbe | s/tcp/ip |
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| 17:28.34 | juanma | goccia: are you sure that it must be 192.168.1.255 instead of 192.168.0.255? |
| 17:28.36 | toresbe | stew: even better, thanks |
| 17:28.49 | goccia | juanma: check also IP_FORWARDING=On in /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf |
| 17:28.50 | juanma | goccia: and detect instead of - |
| 17:28.57 | juanma | goccia: ok |
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| 17:29.11 | Sarge3 | lol |
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| 17:29.25 | goccia | juanma: i actually have 192.168.5.255 :) but i'm wierd :) |
| 17:29.28 | ma3x | hey dudes, know where can i get times new roman? |
| 17:29.34 | uwe | um, is there a gui tool for debian for mount and stuff, i know its easy to do in fstab, but still in need a gui. |
| 17:29.34 | Lorvija | I'm going to use usb drive to backup my stuff.. What's the best filesystem to handle BIG files.. ~250gb ? |
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| 17:30.07 | juanma | goccia: done |
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| 17:30.48 | goccia | juanma: do your zones ... |
| 17:30.59 | ma3x | where can i get times new roman from? |
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| 17:31.26 | stew | juanma: what are you doing? in general broadcast can be left blank, unless you are doing something abnormal |
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| 17:31.30 | juanma | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.42 | s_ward | juanma, no spaces |
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| 17:31.50 | juanma | stew: thanks |
| 17:31.51 | stew | juanma: and the broadcast for 192.168.0.0/24 is definately 192.168.0.255 and not 192.168.1.255 |
| 17:32.09 | juanma | stew: ok |
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| 17:33.33 | juanma | goccia: thanks for all, now it works! |
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| 17:33.46 | cddesjar | oh boy i got to fill out my first bug report today! |
| 17:34.14 | samuel | hello all, anyone here know what i can use to put into a "DiskOnChip" memory card an OS? |
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| 17:34.26 | goccia | juanma: good i love shorewall :) |
| 17:34.32 | fseek | btw, speaking of shorewall, did anybody notice that the bogons addresses (norfc1918) are wrong? |
| 17:34.44 | takatumi | samuel: sarge won't do? |
| 17:34.47 | cddesjar | oh no dpkg is gone! |
| 17:34.53 | stew | !test |
| 17:34.53 | dpkg | Yes, stew, you're still online. |
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| 17:35.21 | takatumi | !stew++ |
| 17:35.34 | ma3x | where should i unpack truetype fonts? |
| 17:35.53 | pngwn | I hope his bug report had more merit ;) |
| 17:35.53 | takatumi | ma3x: why are you unpacking it? |
| 17:36.08 | ma3x | because it's tar.gz |
| 17:36.08 | toresbe | stew: impressively enough, that killed my connection O_o |
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| 17:36.23 | samuel | takatumi, no, no, thats not what im asking... ive a SBC that only has one IDE channel and a "DiskOnChip" memory module, im stumped as to how to put an OS without a CD drive and without a previous OS, i was thinking about a network boot but I have no clue how to do this |
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| 17:37.02 | cddesjar | ma3x: /msg dpkg font guide |
| 17:37.14 | cddesjar | or http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
| 17:37.18 | toresbe | stew: well, now that |
| 17:37.28 | ma3x | cddesjar, thanks |
| 17:37.33 | toresbe | stew: well, now that I fixed my routing brainfart, er, still no forwarding |
| 17:37.35 | takatumi | samuel: pxe boot? |
| 17:37.37 | cddesjar | it's very helpful |
| 17:37.49 | s_ward | fseek, nobogons ¬= norfc1918 |
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| 17:38.22 | stew | toresbe: you can check the forwarding bit with cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 17:38.23 | fseek | s_ward in shorewall rfc1918's and bogons used to be in one file |
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| 17:38.43 | fseek | I also checked the CVS version, they're still there |
| 17:38.54 | toresbe | stew: thanks |
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| 17:39.08 | toresbe | stew: 1 |
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| 17:39.18 | stew | toresbe: then forwarding is enabled, what are you trying to do? |
| 17:39.43 | toresbe | stew: Forwarding is being able to use the machine as a gateway, right? Just making sure :P |
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| 17:40.00 | juanma | airport extreme is still unsupported? |
| 17:40.01 | mofino | I'm having trouble adding a system user with 'adduser' in sarge. I'm getting: adduser: No options allowed after names. |
| 17:40.08 | mofino | This could be why I never use it to add users :) |
| 17:40.28 | mofino | Args are: adduser --system --home /tmp --shell /bin/false --no-create-home --group httpd --disabled-password --disabled-login |
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| 17:40.49 | stew | toresbe: yes, it means it will be willing to consider copying packets from one interface to another |
| 17:41.02 | mofino | Copied almost verbatum from adduser --help |
| 17:41.03 | ubuh-huntuh | I'm trying to backup 3 GB file over the network. When the file is on Linux machines (2.4.20 & 2.4.22) I get the error 75: cannot lstat file... value is too large. When the file is on a Solaris machine. The backup runs fine. So does this mean lstat in 2.4.20 doesn't support files larger than 2GB? |
| 17:41.04 | toresbe | stew: yeah |
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| 17:41.36 | toresbe | stew: well, eth0 is the LAN, 192.168.1.101, eth1 is some 80.something IF |
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| 17:41.54 | mofino | ubuh-huntuh, search google on removing that limit |
| 17:41.57 | fseek | mh, bye all |
| 17:42.01 | stew | toresbe: are you trying to masquerade? |
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| 17:42.08 | Phated | mofino: Put the arguments before the name, then. |
| 17:42.12 | toresbe | stew: yeah |
| 17:42.16 | mofino | Phated, what? |
| 17:42.25 | mofino | Phated, I didn't even put the name |
| 17:42.26 | stew | toresbe: did you add a rule to your FORWARD chain in iptables? |
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| 17:42.33 | toresbe | stew: I am *really* not up on IP theory, obviously. :P |
| 17:42.34 | mofino | Phated, even if I do, it doesn't work. |
| 17:42.35 | toresbe | stew: nope |
| 17:42.38 | Phated | mofino: Uhm. Oh. |
| 17:42.46 | mofino | Phated, I think it's a bug. |
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| 17:42.56 | takatumi | toresbe: just use firehol or something similar and be done with it. |
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| 17:43.17 | mofino | The adduser script in debian is god awful anyway. |
| 17:43.33 | goccia | firehol is very easy to set it up |
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| 17:43.47 | Phated | mofino: <shrug> Well, that was the logical deduction from the error... but if it doesn't work anyway... well, don't use it. :) |
| 17:44.00 | mofino | Phated, yeah |
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| 17:44.09 | mofino | Phated, the group doesn't exist, so that was the problem |
| 17:44.17 | mofino | Phated, it didn't tell me that of course. |
| 17:44.17 | Phated | Ah. |
| 17:44.35 | PSparrow | sid is too fat to use with debmirror, Is there some lists to reduce it by using the --skippackages option? |
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| 17:45.05 | cddesjar | for some reason, when i boot my computer my vmware modules aren't loaded so i need to go and config it everytime i want to run vmware |
| 17:45.34 | greycat | for some reason, we don't support vmware here.... oh yeah. It's probably that non-Free commercial proprietary thing. |
| 17:45.57 | greycat | anyway, if you just want a module to be loaded at boot time, "man modules" |
| 17:46.01 | cddesjar | ouch greycat...that's mean |
| 17:46.08 | mofino | cddesjar, is it? |
| 17:46.17 | cddesjar | if i didn't have to use arcivew i wouldn't use that shitty os |
| 17:46.21 | grendal_prime | i keep getting this sent to may admin account |
| 17:46.23 | grendal_prime | fetchmail: another foreground fetchmail is running at 4657. |
| 17:46.31 | grendal_prime | its a cron job...i dont want this error |
| 17:46.33 | cddesjar | well no not really |
| 17:46.41 | grendal_prime | well not emailed to mw that is |
| 17:46.50 | s_ward | cddesjar, see: /etc/modules # and to stick my 2p in, it's perfectly reasonable to deny VMware support |
| 17:46.52 | stew | toresbe: either look for the iptables / masquerade howto, or what takatumi said, use firehol or shorewall or ipmasq or something... |
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| 17:47.32 | FieldySnuts | ~lart vmware |
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| 17:47.39 | s_ward | cddesjar, I assumed that's what you meant by 'modules' anyway |
| 17:47.57 | cddesjar | oh...i wasn't expecting debian to give me support |
| 17:48.17 | cddesjar | lol...it cost 200 dollars for that program they're the ones that better be doing the supporting |
| 17:48.21 | s_ward | !tell toresbe ipmasq |
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| 17:48.35 | s_ward | !tell toresbe about ipmasq |
| 17:48.44 | grendal_prime | by the way here is the syntax fo that cron job fetchmail -s -f /root/.fetchmailrc |
| 17:48.55 | s_ward | !tell toresbe about ip-masq |
| 17:49.18 | grendal_prime | is there a --nomessage flag...cause i cant seem to find anything in the man for cron on this |
| 17:49.21 | stew | grendal_prime: fetchmail can run as a daemon so there is no reason to run it from cron |
| 17:49.33 | cddesjar | ok...i'm taking the plunge...be back soon...or maybe not |
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| 17:50.36 | Xik0 | how i change the default locale? |
| 17:50.49 | s_ward | !tell Xik0 about locales |
| 17:50.50 | asg | Xik0: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 17:50.51 | KaOS-bEat | hi there, i have my inet connection up through a tun device, pinging is no problem at all, other programs seem to look for an ethX device, any way around this? |
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| 17:51.55 | asg | FieldySnuts: have you looked at qemu |
| 17:52.11 | s_ward | KaOS-bEat, check that the default route goes via your tun device |
| 17:52.25 | KaOS-bEat | s_ward: how do I do that? |
| 17:52.45 | s_ward | KaOS-bEat, `ip route show` (from the iproute package) |
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| 17:52.57 | KaOS-bEat | ok lemme check |
| 17:53.09 | uwe | is there something similar to dpkg-reconfigure mount-points! |
| 17:53.22 | vincent | uwe: what are you looking to do ? |
| 17:53.35 | greycat | "man fstab"? |
| 17:53.37 | stew | uwe: editor /etc/fstab |
| 17:53.39 | FieldySnuts | asg: nah, really don't have a need or interest for such things |
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| 17:54.02 | goccia | is that true qemu works even better then vmware ? |
| 17:54.10 | vincent | no |
| 17:54.12 | greycat | try both and find out |
| 17:54.15 | uwe | im treying to help a newnewenwnewbiiie getting his first linux running and usable |
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| 17:54.34 | greycat | uwe: have him read "man fstab" |
| 17:54.43 | ameliaG | can anyone help me, i'm having problems configuring x |
| 17:54.48 | greycat | !drxx ameliaG |
| 17:54.48 | dpkg | ameliaG: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 17:55.07 | IRCMonkey | does anyone know if debian comes with an IRC client????? |
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| 17:55.12 | greycat | IRCMonkey: yes |
| 17:55.20 | greycat | not in the base system, of course. |
| 17:55.22 | stew | IRCMonkey: /msg dpkg search |
| 17:55.52 | goccia | IRCMonkey: i'm afraid : only for beautiful people |
| 17:55.57 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 17:56.25 | greycat | goccia: if only that were the case. |
| 17:56.41 | KaOS-bEat | s_ward: off course I don't have the package installed... and apt-get doesn't get me further without inet... |
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| 17:57.10 | s_ward | KaOS-bEat, do you have 'route' |
| 17:57.11 | ameliaG | having trouble selecting which server driver to use for my latop |
| 17:57.16 | ameliaG | laptop |
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| 17:57.25 | KaOS-bEat | s_ward: yes |
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| 17:57.52 | uwe | but one can set the mount points in the installation process , so why wouldnt be there a tool to do it in an installed system! |
| 17:57.56 | *** part/#debian bender-rw- (N=juergens@port-212-202-190-59.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 17:58.01 | Midknight | How many people are using debian right now!!!!!!!! |
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| 17:58.08 | greycat | 7 |
| 17:58.09 | mith | Midknight: 2 |
| 17:58.23 | Tomatix | btw, I am having problems with my tv-tuner... |
| 17:58.31 | greycat | !bad polls |
| 17:58.31 | dpkg | The reasons we hate polls are because: 1) they are a massive waste of IRC and bandwidth and screen real estate when asked in a 700 person channel. Did you want 700 answers? 2) They're often a prelude to isolating one helper and barraging him or her in /msg. BAD! |
| 17:58.36 | Tomatix | it wont search for channels :o( |
| 17:58.53 | mith | Midknight: don't /msg me you fag |
| 17:58.54 | s_ward | KaOS-bEat, I forget the exact syntax, try: route -n |
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| 17:59.19 | mith | Midknight: don't /msg me you fag |
| 17:59.33 | KaOS-bEat | s_ward: everything goes through tun0 |
| 17:59.39 | thingfish | plonk |
| 17:59.44 | Tomatix | anyone in here who got my question above... |
| 17:59.50 | ameliaG | my laptop is a toshiba portege a200, i've tried tga but that nay works |
| 17:59.56 | KaOS-bEat | or lo, for 127.0.0.1 but that won't help me either |
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| 18:00.14 | Midknight | is debian good for hosting servers????? |
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| 18:00.23 | s_ward | KaOS-bEat, what applications appear to be looking for ethX device? |
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| 18:00.40 | BradDaBug | is scintilla broken in testing? |
| 18:00.50 | neila | I'm using debian |
| 18:01.01 | mith | Midknight: no, it's broken, and if you /msg me for responding to this, you are retarded. |
| 18:01.06 | neila | debian is good |
| 18:01.11 | oskie | BradDaBug: hah I was just about to ask the same.. I'm using scite, and it's basicly unusable because of graphics issues or something |
| 18:01.11 | neila | very good |
| 18:01.20 | KaOS-bEat | I don't know if they are looking for it, but I supppose they do, basically everything ... I can ping www.google.com, it resolves an ip and ping really fast |
| 18:01.29 | BradDaBug | i can't use anjuta right now... arg |
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| 18:01.37 | Nick_Hacked | hey |
| 18:01.39 | Nick_Hacked | what's up ppl |
| 18:01.46 | Nick_Hacked | happenin' in da hood G? |
| 18:02.03 | pureone | k |
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| 18:02.32 | BradDaBug | is there a way to revert packages back to an earlier version? |
| 18:02.49 | mith | Midknight: what the fuck. stop /msg'ing me. Your irc client is highlighting shit when I prefix a line with your name. I am not /msg'ing you. You on the other hand ARE /msg'ing me. Please learn how to use your irc client or shut up. |
| 18:02.49 | s_ward | KaOS-bEat, so what's wrong exactly? Correct resolving and fast pings are something I don't always get, I'm jealous |
| 18:03.30 | KaOS-bEat | I can't browse, I can't irc, I can't do anything but PING, not exactly sth to be jealous off ;) |
| 18:03.48 | ameliaG | my display is Intel 855GM - AGP 4x |
| 18:03.58 | Nick_Hacked | DUDE |
| 18:04.01 | mith | BradDaBug: uninstall the current version completely and install the old version. |
| 18:04.03 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.05 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.05 | *** kick/#debian [Nick_Hacked!N=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
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| 18:04.10 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.12 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.13 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.14 | ameliaG | but the is no intel option in xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:04.15 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.17 | mith | Midknight: STOP /MSG'ING ME |
| 18:04.17 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
| 18:04.19 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.19 | KaOS-bEat | maybe I can turn my expensive laptop into a ping machine |
| 18:04.19 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.19 | s_ward | !ops Nick_Hacked is spamming |
| 18:04.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Nick_Hacked is spamming |
| 18:04.20 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.22 | ma3x | go go greycat |
| 18:04.22 | pureone | !ops Nick_Hacked troll |
| 18:04.22 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Nick_Hacked troll |
| 18:04.24 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.28 | Nick_Hacked | IT'S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL |
| 18:04.29 | swhitt | man now i have that song stuck in my head |
| 18:04.29 | *** kick/#debian [Nick_Hacked!I=rfc1413@wooledge.org] by greycat (greycat) |
| 18:04.31 | goccia | where's ravenbird ? |
| 18:04.39 | greycat | BAN LIST IS FULL?!? |
| 18:04.42 | greycat | what the fuck.. |
| 18:04.45 | pureone | haha |
| 18:04.46 | KaOS-bEat | greycat: thank you |
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| 18:04.54 | goccia | hahahah |
| 18:04.54 | ameliaG | am i in the wrong channel? |
| 18:04.59 | mith | probably |
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| 18:05.04 | Rawplayer | hey whats with the gay idents on freenode and hosts |
| 18:05.07 | greycat | !gay |
| 18:05.08 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 18:05.11 | Rawplayer | does anyone know the story behind it |
| 18:05.20 | greycat | Rawplayer: http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
| 18:05.20 | thingfish | thank you, greycat. |
| 18:05.28 | KaOS-bEat | s_ward: I was saying (b4 the flood) I can't browse, I can't irc, I can't do anything but PING, not exactly sth to be jealous off ;) |
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| 18:05.33 | Rawplayer | okay |
| 18:05.47 | pureone | kaos-beat what exactly happens when you try nc -v www.google.com 80 ? |
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| 18:06.02 | *** mode/#debian [-bbb %cra|g!*@* %overcool!*@* %*!~bojan*@*hstntx.swbell.net] by greycat |
| 18:06.06 | swhitt | is there an easy way to automatically update packages |
| 18:06.23 | greycat | wait, how can the ban list STILL be full after I just *removed* three bans? |
| 18:06.23 | goccia | loveley old wierd netcat |
| 18:06.25 | LoRez | swhitt: cron-apt will auto-download them, you may be able to make it auto-install them too |
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| 18:06.33 | mwilson | swhitt: You can troll somewhere else, you know. |
| 18:06.40 | swhitt | troll? |
| 18:06.42 | ameliaG | thanks for the help everyone, your great! |
| 18:06.46 | BradDaBug | the scintilla problem started after i installed a new version of pango |
| 18:06.47 | *** part/#debian ameliaG (N=amelia@82-71-83-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 18:06.50 | KaOS-bEat | pureone: command not found... which is bad because I can't install anything from the net |
| 18:06.53 | mith | greycat: gogo dancer powah |
| 18:06.55 | BradDaBug | but i can't uninstall pango without basically uninstalling everything |
| 18:07.04 | Sarge3 | i go eat |
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| 18:07.13 | mwilson | BradDaBug: Without uninstalling anything that depends on Pango, right. |
| 18:07.17 | greycat | for fuck's sake, there are only 62 bans |
| 18:07.18 | ma3x | why don't i have /etc/X11/XftConfig ? |
| 18:07.18 | s_ward | swhitt, auto-apt cron-apt they're called something like that |
| 18:07.20 | pureone | ok try telnet instead |
| 18:07.21 | mwilson | BradDaBug: hardly "everything". |
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| 18:07.29 | swhitt | LoRez, s_ward: thanks |
| 18:07.32 | LoRez | greycat: I think the large banlist thing went away |
| 18:07.36 | KaOS-bEat | pureone, telnet google? |
| 18:07.37 | pureone | or use your browser and tell me what it says |
| 18:07.48 | BradDaBug | so i can't really revert to an old vesion of pango to fix scintilla |
| 18:07.50 | pureone | no my bad just use your browser |
| 18:07.53 | greycat | LoRez: so how are we supposed to deal with trolls and spammers? |
| 18:08.00 | swhitt | mwilson: sorry to bother you, jeez |
| 18:08.13 | LoRez | greycat: I'm finding out what's up |
| 18:08.14 | pureone | does it say "connection timed out" "connection refused" "no host found" ? |
| 18:08.17 | greycat | LoRez: thanks |
| 18:08.21 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 18:08.51 | mwilson | BradDaBug: If you have stuff installed that depends on the later version, I suppose not. That's your own choice, when you use anything other than the stable distribution. |
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| 18:09.22 | KaOS-bEat | pureone, timed out |
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| 18:09.51 | KaOS-bEat | but route -n shows tun0 for my ip |
| 18:10.11 | greycat | KaOS-bEat: uh. this is #debian. |
| 18:10.27 | KaOS-bEat | #greycat yes |
| 18:10.35 | asg | hah |
| 18:10.39 | greycat | last time I checked, linux didn't have tun* interfaces. |
| 18:10.52 | greycat | is that the latest gratuitous change in 2.6.x.y? |
| 18:10.55 | asg | greycat: tun0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:FF:03:71:D9:22 |
| 18:11.07 | nobody__ | I gotta question. I have a box running Debian Stable (through dist-upgrades for the past 4 years or so). When I rebooted today, it showed LI instead of LILO, so I can't boot it. It's a 200GB hard drive on an oldish motherboard (PIII-850). It's my first reboot in many months. I'm now booted of of my FSF membership CD, so have limited functionality (no X, so limited web browsing). |
| 18:11.08 | greycat | asg: openbsd? or debian? |
| 18:11.13 | mith | err, i thought they were called sitX in linux? |
| 18:11.13 | asg | greycat: debian, 2.6 |
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| 18:11.34 | KaOS-bEat | greycat, tun support in kernel 2.6, modprobe tun and /dev/tun est la... |
| 18:11.35 | greycat | so debian is following 2-3 years behind openbsd now? |
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| 18:11.42 | FieldySnuts | greycat: 2.6 has had tun for a while, you just rarely see them |
| 18:11.46 | s_ward | I have a tun, 2.6.8, for a freenet6 tunnel |
| 18:11.56 | nobody__ | Used to boot fine. Possible motherboard lost hard drive settings, although I would guess then it wouldn't get as far as LI. I also played with BIOS settings, and I couldn't make it work (although I didn't know too much about what to do) |
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| 18:11.58 | greycat | does that mean we'll get PF soon? |
| 18:12.01 | FieldySnuts | i used one when i played with ipv6 and that was quite a while ago |
| 18:12.04 | FieldySnuts | hopefully |
| 18:12.04 | nobody__ | Any clues about how to recover it/ |
| 18:12.05 | nobody__ | ? |
| 18:12.18 | mith | greycat: don't talk like that, you're making me feel funny DOWN THERE |
| 18:12.20 | nobody__ | Might be something else. |
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| 18:12.59 | deepz | how do i see my windows drives fron debian |
| 18:13.01 | greycat | mith: oh, that's just a badger gnawing on your ankle. he'll go away if you say "SNAKE!" to him. |
| 18:13.03 | St_Iron | hi |
| 18:13.05 | KaOS-bEat | well I have to go... I'll come back later |
| 18:13.05 | deepz | i mean in the same machine |
| 18:13.12 | goccia | nobody__: hmm : i'm not using lilo but if iirc you should rerun lilo |
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| 18:13.36 | mith | greycat: oh wow, he did |
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| 18:13.45 | mwilson | greycat: *We* already have pf. :) |
| 18:13.49 | mith | !mith greycat |
| 18:13.52 | nobody__ | goccia: I will try that. |
| 18:13.52 | greycat | mwilson: I meant "we" as in debia |
| 18:13.54 | ma3x | i have a few .ttf fonts. Where should I copy them to? |
| 18:13.54 | greycat | +n |
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| 18:13.56 | mith | dpkg: fuck you too buddy. |
| 18:13.57 | nobody__ | goccia: Thanks. |
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| 18:14.20 | mith | greycat: make dpkg not ignore me :( |
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| 18:14.28 | greycat | mith: I can't. literally. |
| 18:14.32 | greycat | he's not my bot |
| 18:14.46 | mith | whose is he |
| 18:14.47 | ma3x | where should i copy ttf fonts? |
| 18:14.51 | greycat | !who owns you |
| 18:14.52 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
| 18:15.00 | mith | ~mith dondelelcaro |
| 18:15.11 | mith | o, apt ignores me too now, I see how it is. |
| 18:15.27 | ma3x | mith you flooded him? |
| 18:15.35 | mith | no. |
| 18:15.43 | ma3x | then its your bad day |
| 18:15.51 | ma3x | you ignore him too |
| 18:15.52 | mith | dondelelcaro doesn't like me :P |
| 18:15.55 | mwilson | greycat: Having now used both pf and iptables, I'm not using iptables any more. :) |
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| 18:16.09 | ma3x | mwilson, good decision |
| 18:16.13 | mith | ma3x: dpkg has had me ignored for over a year. |
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| 18:16.27 | ma3x | mith, don't worry he'll get over it |
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| 18:17.15 | sadfgg | which IRC server should I use to connect to the official #Perl? |
| 18:17.22 | ma3x | any idea to what dir/ to copy ttf fonts? |
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| 18:17.44 | electron | hi. what line i have to insert to /etc/apt/sources.list if I need to download sun java with .deb package?? |
| 18:17.55 | greycat | why does #perl hide themselves? |
| 18:17.58 | mwilson | Probably to a directory you're planning on adding to your fontpath. |
| 18:17.59 | ma3x | is /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType for .ttf fonts? |
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| 18:18.05 | sadfgg | electron, deb http://z42.de debian/ |
| 18:18.06 | sadfgg | deb-src http://z42.de debian/ |
| 18:18.17 | neila | deb ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/java-linux/debian sarge non-free ? |
| 18:18.26 | takatumi | ma3x: didn't you read this? http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt |
| 18:18.26 | electron | thx |
| 18:18.28 | mwilson | electron: None. As per the license, it is forbidden to distribute Sun Java. |
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| 18:18.51 | ma3x | takatumi, I did! But I already have .tar.gz fonts another collection, and I want to copy them somewhere |
| 18:18.52 | greycat | !java licensing |
| 18:18.52 | dpkg | read the faq at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html#s-license-concerns |
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| 18:19.11 | ma3x | java is free to use, right |
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| 18:19.22 | greycat | depends on how you define "use" |
| 18:19.23 | ma3x | or should i pay $15 a month? |
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| 18:19.29 | greycat | (and "free") |
| 18:19.45 | ma3x | use = home use :) |
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| 18:20.06 | greycat | for more details, consult your lawyer. welcome to the 21st century, sponsored by Microsoft(R)(tm) |
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| 18:20.20 | iRSd07 | selam lan.. |
| 18:20.28 | takatumi | ma3x: read the last part of that file. |
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| 18:20.41 | asg | !tr |
| 18:20.41 | dpkg | trke yardm iin #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
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| 18:22.37 | nejucomo | Hrm... I installed "gnome-desktop", but when I click "Applications -> Desktop Preferences -> Theme" I get a window saying either metacity isn't installed or gconf is broken. Do I have to use metacity (instead of sawfish) to get gnome themes?! |
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| 18:23.13 | CargolNet | hi there, has someone installed the xen virtualizer in debian? |
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| 18:23.55 | naddar | anyone knows where wine install that software? |
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| 18:24.01 | nejucomo | That menu item launches "gnome-theme-manager". When I run it from a terminal it says: "(gnome-theme-manager:4254): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Could not open network socket." Anyone else seen this? |
| 18:24.17 | FieldySnuts | "that" software? |
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| 18:24.19 | vladuz976 | does anybody know what xcb is and does? i get an error while compiling e17 |
| 18:24.22 | electron | all these servers havn't java :( |
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| 18:24.41 | FieldySnuts | vladuz976: probably best off to ask the E guys, last I knew they were on efnet #e |
| 18:24.54 | vladuz976 | FieldySnuts: they don't answer |
| 18:25.13 | FieldySnuts | good luck here then, very few experiment with e17-cvs |
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| 18:26.00 | aaronlin | I'm a new linux user that started off with Fedora, but is now struggling with Debian. Can someone recommend me a good site to help me, particularly right now with setting up a printer? |
| 18:26.49 | Sarge3 | mhmh |
| 18:27.02 | Sarge3 | debian.org is g00d |
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| 18:27.24 | s_ward | !tell aaronlin about printer |
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| 18:27.54 | ma3x | takatumi, what's Xft2 ? |
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| 18:27.58 | ma3x | there is no such package |
| 18:28.14 | ma3x | that walkthrough is not telling me much |
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| 18:28.21 | thingfish | printing shouldn't be too hard to set up. I was missing gs-esp, but once I got that, my printer setup (used kcontrol) worked fine. |
| 18:28.43 | aaronlin | If my printer is hooked up using USB, will I need to use CUPS? |
| 18:28.47 | covux | how or where can i get a list of all commands for dpkg bot? |
| 18:28.56 | thingfish | but then I elected to install Print Server during base install. |
| 18:29.05 | thingfish | aaronlin: yes, you'll probably want to use cups. |
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| 18:29.18 | Gathond | aaronlin: you probably want some sort of printer system |
| 18:29.29 | aaronlin | Gathond: What do you mean? |
| 18:29.42 | FieldySnuts | printing not hard to set up in linux... chuckle, that's a good one |
| 18:29.58 | Gathond | aaronlin: you never as such need cups, there are several printing systems |
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| 18:30.00 | s_ward | covux, /msg <bot> help tends to work |
| 18:30.09 | aaronlin | Gathond: I see. Which is easiest to use? |
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| 18:30.21 | Gathond | FieldySnuts: buy a PS printer and you are fine in my experience |
| 18:30.26 | covux | s_ward: thanks |
| 18:30.30 | Gathond | aaronlin: cups probably |
| 18:30.42 | FieldySnuts | Gathond: indeed. unfortunately they are considerably more expensive |
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| 18:30.53 | FieldySnuts | ah well, you get what you pay for. don't by shitty printers. |
| 18:30.56 | mwilson | FieldySnuts: Not particularly. |
| 18:31.18 | Gathond | aaronlin: provided you have a postscript printer and you never need any printer queue with several documents you can just cat stuff into the printer device |
| 18:31.35 | Gathond | but a printer spooler generally offers more control over driver options and such |
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| 18:31.52 | Gathond | FieldySnuts: I dont think HP even makes laser printers that is non PS |
| 18:32.00 | aaronlin | hmm...I have a Brother HL-1440 |
| 18:32.03 | Gathond | FieldySnuts: so not that expensive I think |
| 18:32.24 | Gathond | aaronlin: iirc that does not talk postscript, so some sort of driver is probably required |
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| 18:32.59 | StarFire | Hi all |
| 18:33.18 | Servo888 | Anybody good with pppd? I'm having an issue where pppd reports... "unrecognized option '/dev/usb/acm/0'" Where .../acm/0 is my modem. |
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| 18:34.15 | SuperFly | how do i disable Exim? not sure how that got installed on my base system |
| 18:34.26 | aaronlin | Gathond: I see. I know that before on Fedora the computer was able to automatically detect it |
| 18:34.31 | mwilson | SuperFly: Uh, because it's supposed to be? |
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| 18:34.49 | aaronlin | I tried using KDE tools on Debian to pick it up; the printer was picked up, but for some reason I still cannot print to it |
| 18:34.58 | PissedTrixBunny | !tell PissedTrixBunny about netatalk |
| 18:35.00 | StarFire | I'm trying to create a Debian package myself... |
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| 18:35.13 | SuperFly | hrm |
| 18:35.17 | SuperFly | what's the best way to remove it? |
| 18:35.25 | Servo888 | man apt-get =\ |
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| 18:35.44 | StarFire | dh_make created the debian/control file and filled Standards-Version: 3.6.1, but lintian complains about the version being out of date |
| 18:35.50 | PissedTrixBunny | does anyone have experience wit "netatalk"? I am trying to get it to work... where would I begin looking? resources? |
| 18:36.00 | mwilson | SuperFly: To not remove it. |
| 18:36.05 | StarFire | Does anyone know the current version for Standards-Version? |
| 18:36.15 | SuperFly | why? |
| 18:36.19 | SuperFly | i don't want smtp running |
| 18:36.22 | mwilson | PissedTrixBunny: "get it to work"? What gave you the idea it didn't? |
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| 18:37.54 | mwilson | SuperFly: It's not listening on other than localhost unless you specifically told it to when it asked you. No, no, don't bother claiming it didn't ask you... we all know it did. A correctly configured *nix box has local mail. Deal with it. |
| 18:38.02 | pureone | superfly just make exim4 listen on the address 127.0.0.1 no one will be able to connect to it from the outside |
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| 18:38.20 | thingfish | aaronlin: try adding gs-esp - it worked for me. |
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| 18:38.57 | s_ward | StarFire, would that not be in the policy manual? |
| 18:38.58 | samuel | whats the audio device in debian if i have oss compatibility installed for non-alsa apps please? |
| 18:39.28 | samuel | should be /dev/dsp no? |
| 18:39.59 | jetx | anybody know why the debian sid linux-source wont build |
| 18:40.31 | thingfish | aaronlin: I think you'll need to restart cups after adding gs-esp (/etc/init.d/cupsys restart). |
| 18:40.49 | s_ward | samuel, /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/OSS-Emulation.txt.g |
| 18:40.58 | s_ward | z |
| 18:41.00 | samuel | s_ward, thanks |
| 18:41.01 | ma3x | Can't locate module ati_agp <- does that mean module is not compiled into the kernel?/ |
| 18:41.20 | jetx | no |
| 18:41.37 | jetx | it means probably that the module is not compiled out of the kernel |
| 18:41.46 | StarFire | s_ward: Chapter 5.6.11 Describes the format, but has no actual version number that I could fill in... |
| 18:41.51 | ma3x | so what should one do jetx ? |
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| 18:42.02 | s_ward | StarFire, look at the footer |
| 18:42.07 | jetx | recompile, do without, whatever you like. |
| 18:42.30 | ma3x | jetx, it should be compiled without that module, right? |
| 18:42.30 | jetx | but, it doesn't mean it's not compiled INTO the kernel |
| 18:42.32 | Rawplayer | !dpkg gentoo |
| 18:42.32 | dpkg | well, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/, or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385, or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
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| 18:43.01 | jetx | ma3x: what kernel. a stock, or are you compiling one |
| 18:43.11 | StarFire | s_ward: Thank you very much. There's a german saying when you don't see the obvious, that's the way I feel now... |
| 18:43.46 | ma3x | jetx, 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 18:43.55 | s_ward | StarFire, no problem, I'm only guessing there btw, but I believe that is the version you're looking for |
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| 18:44.39 | StarFire | s_ward: I suppose it's the correct one... it's close enough to 3.6.1 and higher ;-) |
| 18:45.47 | jetx | ma3x: ok a stock kernel. the module 'should' be available, but you say it says it's not. ls /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/char/agp |
| 18:46.09 | s_ward | Hehe, StarFire, if you see the package info: http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-policy.html |
| 18:46.26 | jetx | ma3x: maybe as root load the module |
| 18:46.32 | takatumi | ma3x: grep CONFIG_AGP_ATI .config |
| 18:46.36 | s_ward | StarFire, the package itself conforms to policy 3.6.1.1, and there's a message saying it needs to be updated to 3.6.2 |
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| 18:46.49 | jetx | takatumi: it's a stock, not a compilation (afaik) |
| 18:46.53 | ma3x | ls: /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/char/agp: No such file or directory |
| 18:47.00 | darklines | good evening all |
| 18:47.11 | takatumi | jetx: then he would have the config in /boot/ |
| 18:47.28 | jetx | ma3x: what does uname -r return |
| 18:47.43 | ma3x | 2.4.27.2-686 |
| 18:47.47 | mith | jetx: 8.2.0 |
| 18:47.50 | ma3x | ah hold on |
| 18:47.57 | jetx | yeah |
| 18:48.29 | jetx | so try the same area, but change it to 2.4.27-whatever |
| 18:48.40 | StarFire | s_ward: I'll try with 3.6.2.1 |
| 18:48.59 | ma3x | jetx, what do you mean try the same area? |
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| 18:49.38 | jetx | ls a bunch |
| 18:49.53 | jetx | find the agp |
| 18:49.57 | jetx | use the source luke |
| 18:50.10 | ma3x | and enable it as module there? |
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| 18:50.44 | jetx | no. you're looking to verify the existence or non-existence of the module |
| 18:50.55 | jetx | use modconf to load modules |
| 18:51.09 | jetx | (easier than explaining the other way) |
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| 18:51.36 | ma3x | one moment |
| 18:51.42 | jetx | oh and get a real kernel |
| 18:51.55 | jetx | some day |
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| 18:52.33 | Cool_Mc_Cool | hi guys... I have a little trouble here installing sarge.... |
| 18:52.41 | ma3x | jetx /lib/modules/2.4.27.2-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp doesnt exist either |
| 18:52.43 | jetx | christ i2c and zoran are borked in latest kernel sources :( |
| 18:52.54 | jetx | ok then you don't have one maybe |
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| 18:53.07 | ma3x | what to do, upgrade kernel? |
| 18:53.18 | jetx | me, i would, but ymmv |
| 18:53.33 | jetx | apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6, pick one, apt-get install it |
| 18:53.40 | jetx | or linux-image if sid |
| 18:53.51 | Cool_Mc_Cool | is here someone who has installed sarge on a Dell inspiron 7500? |
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| 18:54.44 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 18:54.44 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 18:55.12 | ma3x | haha |
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| 18:55.19 | takatumi | Cool_Mc_Cool: http://www.linux-laptop.net/dell.html |
| 18:55.48 | Cool_Mc_Cool | thanks takatumi... I'm going to check it |
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| 18:56.58 | stew | Cool_Mc_Cool: also tuxmobile.org |
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| 18:57.16 | stew | Cool_Mc_Cool: or actually tell us the problem you are having |
| 18:57.41 | zgh | can anyone tell me why my wired and wireless ethernet cards would swap designations (eth0 -> eth1)? |
| 18:57.54 | zgh | it has borked my config and don't understand why |
| 18:58.03 | FieldySnuts | depends on which one the kernel sees first, i use an app to switch them after the fact hang on |
| 18:58.17 | zgh | i can't figure out ifrename at all |
| 18:58.28 | zgh | not using it yet but i think i need to |
| 18:58.30 | Cool_Mc_Cool | well, basically fron the begining the installer tells me that "can't read xxxx.file from the CD" |
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| 18:58.40 | Cool_Mc_Cool | that I should check the CD integrity |
| 18:58.49 | StarFire | s_ward: 3.6.2.1 is gracefully accepted ;-) |
| 18:59.00 | s_ward | StarFire, good good |
| 18:59.00 | FieldySnuts | zgh: i use nameif |
| 18:59.23 | Cool_Mc_Cool | thing that I do... and it fails... it says that my CD is not a original Debian CD instaler or something like this |
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| 18:59.40 | goccia | what ? |
| 18:59.49 | zgh | FieldySnuts: thanks i'll look into it |
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| 18:59.56 | Cool_Mc_Cool | but I donwloaded the CD straight from Debian |
| 19:00.15 | stew | Cool_Mc_Cool: scratched? bad burn? |
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| 19:01.04 | Cool_Mc_Cool | in fact... I md5sum ed the cd and it says everything is ok |
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| 19:01.37 | Cool_Mc_Cool | I md5sum the CD from my Red Hat... which is the system I want to replace |
| 19:01.52 | goccia | well done |
| 19:02.08 | goccia | i mean : part II :) |
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| 19:02.31 | Cool_Mc_Cool | IMHO in think it's something with the drivers that the installer is trying to use for my Toshiba CD-ROM |
| 19:04.08 | aubergine | how can i get a vhost on this irc servers ? |
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| 19:05.13 | Cool_Mc_Cool | guys I'm at work right now... I'll be back in a while |
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| 19:08.43 | emorys | folks. how come a simple, basic webmail service like fastmail.fm hides my ip address while the secure service of safe-mail.net does not?? |
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| 19:09.06 | Bazz | so, i copied some new ttf font files to my /usr/share/fonts/default/TrueType dir, and ran ttmkfdir and i see that fonts.scale has the new fonts in it. now how do i get those font's to be available? i tried xset fp rehash and restarting xfs, but neither worked |
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| 19:10.59 | janatwork | moin |
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| 19:12.28 | peery | anyone know of a graphing tool, like dot, that does not do automatic layout? |
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| 19:15.50 | Gathond | peery: dont know what dot does, so hard to say |
| 19:15.58 | Gathond | peery: octave or gnuplot perhaps |
| 19:16.12 | peery | Gathond: too low level :-) |
| 19:16.27 | concept10 | This guys posts a how to on setting up a ISP, is this overkill for a couple of sites? or a good solution? http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/perfect_setup_debian_sarge/index.php |
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| 19:18.18 | PoPnow | what's the best way to copy the whole /var to another drive and then mount it to a new mountpoint? what command is best to use to copy so all chmod will get right |
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| 19:18.46 | deadcat | PoPnow: rsync |
| 19:18.46 | greycat | mount, cp -a, umount, mv, mount |
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| 19:18.54 | dazedyugo | hello all |
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| 19:19.05 | dazedyugo | can anyone recommmend me a good system info reporting utility? |
| 19:19.13 | deadcat | dazedyugo: cd /proc |
| 19:19.16 | greycat | maybe an extra "mount" and/or "umount" as required |
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| 19:19.32 | StarFire | dazedyugo: lshw |
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| 19:20.38 | dazedyugo | StarFire: thanks |
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| 19:21.34 | deadcat | StarFire: lshw seems like hwinfo eh? |
| 19:22.06 | PoPnow | greycat, hmm why should I mv after I have cp -a? |
| 19:22.21 | StarFire | deadcat: AFAIK yes |
| 19:22.31 | greycat | mv the old /var out of the way so you can mount the new one there. oh yeah, I forgot the mkdir. |
| 19:23.07 | PoPnow | greycat: ah.. now I'm with you.. hehe |
| 19:24.03 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i think if you volunteer, you get special badge holders... not sure. |
| 19:24.22 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Im down but I dont know shit ;( |
| 19:24.36 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: dont have to. just say "check debian.org" |
| 19:24.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahah then why dont they just leave a poster there saying check debian.org |
| 19:25.07 | deadcat | hahah |
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| 19:25.20 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: are you volunteering? |
| 19:25.43 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i doubt it. they dont make me feel like i am one of them. (= |
| 19:26.12 | vincent | hrmm if i wanted to make a list of what ports an vuln scanner like nessus used, what would be a good approach ? |
| 19:26.16 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i mean i know don and jeremy, but not the other dudes |
| 19:26.19 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Add them to the list ;P |
| 19:26.26 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: well take care of it. |
| 19:26.28 | deadcat | vincent: /etc/services |
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| 19:26.38 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: HAHAHAHA. ya. |
| 19:26.46 | vincent | deadcat: it doesn't use all of them |
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| 19:26.55 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Send me a copy of the list... I am going to start on it.. |
| 19:27.06 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: HAHAHAHAH... |
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| 19:27.28 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I stole your buttons ;P haha http://ovaici.homelinux.com |
| 19:27.37 | TwistedEmotions | @ the bottom. |
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| 19:28.12 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nice. (=.. but i think your javascript for loading the image is lagging since i think i downloads all the images |
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| 19:28.37 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: are you using root-tail to display your apache log to your workspace? so you know whos visiting? |
| 19:28.41 | marcel_ | i have a problem, base-config isn't running: |
| 19:28.41 | illsci | hey in debiany in the interfaces file .... you have dns-nameservers are they a comma seperated list |
| 19:28.44 | marcel_ | http://phpfi.com/73216 |
| 19:28.48 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: it's not java... |
| 19:28.50 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: just html |
| 19:28.51 | illsci | or are there mulitple lines of dns-nameservers |
| 19:28.52 | illsci | ? |
| 19:28.59 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: javascript. |
| 19:29.06 | greycat | there is no "dns" in man interfaces on my sarge box. |
| 19:29.17 | illsci | dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1, 192.68.10.1 ... |
| 19:29.22 | illsci | or on seperate lines |
| 19:29.26 | greycat | what file is that, and on what operating system and version? |
| 19:29.38 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: WTF? What are you talking about the apache log shit? Im using a counter service.. |
| 19:29.44 | illsci | in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:29.50 | nanok | greycat: works with resolvconf package installed, iirc |
| 19:29.52 | greycat | in sarge? |
| 19:29.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: /var/log/apache2/access.log |
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| 19:29.56 | illsci | yes |
| 19:29.57 | greycat | nanok: ah. |
| 19:29.58 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: tail -f that file |
| 19:30.17 | nanok | greycat: the file is /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:30.25 | greycat | illsci: nanok suggests that it's from the resolvconf package, so perhaps it's documented in /usr/share/doc/resolvconf/ |
| 19:30.36 | illsci | naw if you do man interfaces |
| 19:30.38 | illsci | it comes up |
| 19:30.40 | illsci | im reading it now |
| 19:30.43 | greycat | not on MINE it doesn't. |
| 19:30.44 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: do I have to be in a certain directory when I do that? |
| 19:30.48 | greycat | does resolvconf replace the man page too? |
| 19:30.50 | illsci | it does on mine |
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| 19:31.00 | greycat | !find interfaces.5.gz sarge |
| 19:31.09 | aurax | hello, can anyone guide me to a good dns server howto, that explains how to make primary and secondeary |
| 19:31.12 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no. just use root-tail to read it. |
| 19:31.16 | greycat | aurax: ask #dns |
| 19:31.17 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'interfaces.5.gz' (2): (/usr/share/man/man5/interfaces.5.gz) in base/ifupdown ;; (/usr/share/man/man5/vlan-interfaces.5.gz) in misc/vlan. |
| 19:31.17 | FieldySnuts | google for dns howto |
| 19:31.26 | aurax | no shit FieldySnuts |
| 19:31.29 | aurax | REALLY? |
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| 19:31.35 | greycat | aurax: yes. |
| 19:31.43 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: your links are too dark (blue,black) cant see. )= |
| 19:31.48 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: oh.. I get it... it updates... |
| 19:31.56 | FieldySnuts | aurax: okay since you are being a dick head and that's how I learned (and I am a moron), you're on your own |
| 19:32.02 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: was thinking about changing that.. |
| 19:32.07 | greycat | so, if resolvconf doesn't provide an interfaces.5.gz file, how is it overriding the normal sarge man page? |
| 19:32.08 | TwistedEmotions | ;) The videos are pimp |
| 19:32.16 | greycat | !find interfaces.5 sarge |
| 19:32.21 | FieldySnuts | pimp? did I accidentally join efnet #rap ? |
| 19:32.24 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'interfaces.5' returned no results. |
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| 19:32.31 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: lots of download. (= |
| 19:32.45 | greycat | huh? how did that get NO results? |
| 19:32.48 | aurax | FieldySnuts oh thx |
| 19:33.06 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: true... ;) I added hella shit.. |
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| 19:33.26 | FieldySnuts | greycat: someone appears to be tinkering rather heavily with dpkg and apt (forgetting factoids etc), maybe it's related. maybe not. |
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| 19:33.35 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. looking nice.. maybe you should get a image gallery with thumbnails or something. |
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| 19:34.07 | greycat | FieldySnuts: I get weird results from packages.d.o too. |
| 19:34.11 | greycat | usr/share/man/man5/interfaces.5.gz base/ifupdown |
| 19:34.14 | greycat | ^^ that's normal. |
| 19:34.15 | SuperFly | gents, dumb question |
| 19:34.21 | FieldySnuts | ah |
| 19:34.22 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.23 | SuperFly | at my login screen, it says Debian GNU/linux testing/unstable |
| 19:34.24 | greycat | ^^ that's not. |
| 19:34.30 | greycat | err... Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that |
| 19:34.34 | deadcat | !tell SuperFly about enter |
| 19:34.35 | SuperFly | Why is that..... I thought I had the latest stable. What's the best way to find out |
| 19:34.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah... actually.. that's a good idea... need to find code to do that |
| 19:34.46 | deadcat | SuperFly: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 19:35.28 | SuperFly | deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ stable main |
| 19:35.28 | SuperFly | deb-src http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ stable main |
| 19:35.28 | SuperFly | deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main |
| 19:35.28 | SuperFly | deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main |
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| 19:35.33 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 19:35.35 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you can install libapache-gallery-perl <-- BEST gallery ever, or if you want isntall gallery2 (i dont know how this work but very popular) |
| 19:35.37 | abrotman | SuperFly: read the topic |
| 19:35.43 | deadcat | !moron SuperFly |
| 19:35.44 | dpkg | SuperFly: You are moron #41 |
| 19:35.48 | SuperFly | hah |
| 19:35.48 | SuperFly | thanx |
| 19:35.55 | HmJ | is it possible to force bind reply all requests as if it was zone blabla.com ? |
| 19:36.04 | greycat | HmJ: ask #dns |
| 19:36.24 | SuperFly | it lists deb-src several times |
| 19:36.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Do you have a gellery? |
| 19:36.52 | SuperFly | what am i suppost to look for in sources.list? |
| 19:36.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hell ya. |
| 19:37.24 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ;) I love you... want to send me the page script? I installed the gallery you told me about.. |
| 19:37.26 | und0 | SuperFly: presence of unstable entries |
| 19:37.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: haha like the frozen cpu? |
| 19:37.39 | concept10 | TwistedEmotions, what how to did you use to setup your server? |
| 19:37.49 | SuperFly | just see testing main |
| 19:37.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: which one? libapache-gallery-perl? you setup a subdomain for it |
| 19:37.56 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: apache2 ;) |
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| 19:38.18 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: wait.. what was your question? |
| 19:38.19 | greycat | SuperFly: testing would do it. |
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| 19:38.27 | concept10 | TwistedEmotions, Did you use a how to? |
| 19:38.41 | SuperFly | is there a GUI to modify that list? |
| 19:38.48 | greycat | SuperFly: editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:38.50 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: Not exactly.. I use a deadcat ... |
| 19:38.50 | greycat | or apt-setup |
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| 19:39.02 | deadcat | hahahah |
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| 19:39.05 | nrclf_ | rly |
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| 19:39.07 | concept10 | TwistedEmotions, so just use deatcat? |
| 19:39.07 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: it's easy.. just install and edit the files in /var/www/ |
| 19:39.27 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: that was a joke.. deadcat is a person ;) |
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| 19:39.41 | deadcat | concept10: you apt-get install deadcat |
| 19:39.42 | Supaplex | haha |
| 19:39.47 | TwistedEmotions | ahaha |
| 19:39.55 | concept10 | TwistedEmotions, I know how to do that... My problem is the last server I setup, I cant access it outside of my LAN |
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| 19:40.04 | Supaplex | ln -s `which cat` /bin/deadcat |
| 19:40.07 | TwistedEmotions | Error: Package lacks intelligence. |
| 19:40.11 | deadcat | when you're done setting up apache2, just --purge deadcat |
| 19:40.20 | deadcat | HAHAH |
| 19:40.23 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 19:40.25 | concept10 | clamav reports deadcat virus |
| 19:40.42 | Supaplex | he's infect0red us all |
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| 19:41.03 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: you have to open at least port80.. no other way ;_ |
| 19:41.26 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: I am just running it off of my desktop ;) |
| 19:41.27 | concept10 | port 80 is open by default, is that correct? |
| 19:41.35 | greycat | define "open". |
| 19:41.41 | greycat | !open ports |
| 19:41.41 | dpkg | open ports is probably netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or (also, see 'open files') |
| 19:41.48 | greycat | !closing ports |
| 19:41.48 | dpkg | <greycat> Whenever a newbie talks about "opening" or "closing" ports, you're in for a hell of a time helping it to unlearn whatever fucked-up concepts it's picked up. |
| 19:41.55 | deadcat | concept10: no. your router or whatever forwards the port to the machine |
| 19:41.59 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: how do I create a subdomain or whatever? Just send me whatever files you have setup and I will copy ? ;) |
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| 19:42.13 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ok. |
| 19:42.18 | concept10 | I did port fowarding to the internal IP address of the server |
| 19:42.25 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ;) I lub u |
| 19:42.31 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: sure, lemmie tarball up this root^H^H^H^Htoolkit before I send. |
| 19:42.50 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 19:42.51 | TwistedEmotions | Supaplex: ;) WEeeeee I love chkrootkit |
| 19:42.57 | concept10 | greycat, if you can access the web, that should mean 80 is open, correct? |
| 19:43.23 | nanok | greycat: good factoid..it is such a...fact |
| 19:43.25 | Supaplex | thansk for reminding me |
| 19:43.26 | concept10 | could someone tell me if this howto is overkill for what I want to do: http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/perfect_setup_debian_sarge/index.php |
| 19:43.35 | greycat | concept10: that would be outgoing traffic. |
| 19:43.39 | concept10 | Just scan the basic purpose |
| 19:43.43 | greycat | concept10: so, what on *earth* are you actually asking us? |
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| 19:43.58 | Supaplex | he wants to run multiple instances of vim. |
| 19:44.05 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: use english keyboard ;) |
| 19:44.30 | concept10 | on earth is.. I want to setup a couple of content management systems on a fresh install of sarge that I can access outside on my internal network |
| 19:44.37 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/vhost.conf this is for apache1.3 but should work for 2, i have Include /etc/apache/vhost.conf in /etc/apache/httpd.conf, so if you dont want this to be external file, just put them at the end of the apache2.conf file i think |
| 19:44.39 | concept10 | basic question |
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| 19:44.52 | greycat | concept10: so don't firewall it. problem solved. |
| 19:45.00 | Pihti | Hi, I have problem with debian sarge (stable) and starting openoffice |
| 19:45.03 | deadcat | concept10: no such thing as perfect |
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| 19:45.33 | concept10 | deadcat, I didnt write the article, it could be called burger server for all I care, as long as it works |
| 19:45.34 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Errr... I dont know if I want the file to be external.. ;) |
| 19:45.38 | Supaplex | deadcat: well, except for me. ;o) |
| 19:45.46 | emorys | folks. how come a simple, basic webmail service like fastmail.fm hides my ip address while the secure service of safe-mail.net does not?? |
| 19:45.46 | Pihti | I need to write my bills and openoffice is not starting, so I have a severe problem |
| 19:45.49 | emorys | Folks, folks. |
| 19:45.53 | deadcat | Supaplex: hahaha. |
| 19:46.00 | emorys | i have been looking so hard for a proper mail service. |
| 19:46.03 | deadcat | Supaplex: sir, you're a perfect10 (= |
| 19:46.11 | emorys | i finally found fast-mail and now i find it is not masking my ip address in mail sent! |
| 19:46.16 | concept10 | Pihti, use a pen and paper |
| 19:46.26 | emorys | safe-mail, i mean. |
| 19:46.29 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i do it that way because i have a list of vhost on my machine |
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| 19:47.00 | Pihti | concept10: i need also to do my company's papers, they are only in electronical form (oocalc) and if the oocalc refuses to start i am in trouble |
| 19:47.09 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Errr.. I dont even see a vhost file in /etc/apache2 |
| 19:47.16 | concept10 | greycat, could /etc/network/interfaces using DHCP be my problem? |
| 19:47.19 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: let me take a look |
| 19:47.22 | Pihti | This is not fun at all |
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| 19:47.27 | vincent | TwistedEmotions: sites-enable/000default |
| 19:47.29 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: open ;) |
| 19:47.32 | greycat | concept10: a server running dhcp? good luck. |
| 19:47.33 | deadcat | ya |
| 19:47.38 | greycat | (running dhcp client) |
| 19:47.52 | concept10 | greycat, so disable dhcp and manually configure? |
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| 19:47.58 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: so just add it in there? |
| 19:48.01 | concept10 | is that a better solution |
| 19:48.22 | greycat | concept10: think. if you have a dynamic address, how would the clients reach you? |
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| 19:48.32 | Pihti | The openoffice calc starts to load, but when the loader progress bar reaches end, it refuses to open the main program |
| 19:48.38 | concept10 | ddclient, dyndns |
| 19:48.41 | Pihti | what in the hell van do this? |
| 19:49.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh. in default, add the libapache- stuff to the end |
| 19:49.04 | concept10 | greycat, but my IP address is static, I have cable internet but it never changes |
| 19:49.35 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 19:50.24 | TwistedEmotions | awww fuck.. I wrote it to sites-enable/000-defautl or whatever |
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| 19:50.39 | greycat | that's not static. that's luck. |
| 19:50.49 | greycat | but if you want to rely on that luck, go ahead. |
| 19:50.49 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: fixed it. |
| 19:51.08 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: cool. just change the values for the vhost |
| 19:51.15 | Pihti | prelinking openoffice binaries does not help at all |
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| 19:51.16 | concept10 | I met a girl on Yahoo personals that works for comcast and I hooked her up and she hooked me up |
| 19:51.29 | mz_work | hmmm my dynamic i.p. (cable) never changes either unless a put up a new MAC address i.e. new router |
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| 19:51.45 | Scorpaen | nvidia installer says i need libc headers. how do i install them? |
| 19:51.53 | deadcat | concept10: when you say hook <me/her> you mean ...? |
| 19:52.08 | concept10 | greycat, well I just need to test some setups before I move them to another host |
| 19:52.10 | deadcat | !nvidia one-liner Scorpaen |
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| 19:52.18 | concept10 | deadcat, heh |
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| 19:52.24 | Scorpaen | !nvidia one-liner |
| 19:52.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 19:52.42 | concept10 | deadcat, you wouldnt believe that story if I told you :) |
| 19:52.43 | deadcat | concept10: (= |
| 19:52.49 | Scorpaen | thanks deadcat |
| 19:52.51 | deadcat | concept10: i believe anything |
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| 19:53.52 | concept10 | deadcat, she didnt hook me up with a static ip but I spent some time in her faux silk sheets, :) |
| 19:54.13 | deadcat | concept10: fuck the static ip (= |
| 19:54.18 | concept10 | HA! |
| 19:54.36 | Pihti | My nerves did not work anymore so I upgrade to testing, if the DAMNED openoffice could start now... |
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| 19:54.54 | Scorpaen | wow this is so easy |
| 19:55.01 | Scorpaen | i come from gentoo |
| 19:55.04 | TwistedEmotions | concept10: fuck her harder and I'm sure you can get a free static ip.. |
| 19:55.10 | Scorpaen | got tired of installing stuff all the time |
| 19:55.19 | Scorpaen | er, got tired of compiling stuff all the time |
| 19:55.33 | concept10 | deadcat, a month later my cousin told me he met some girl in that same area and went home with her and after further discussion I found out it was the same girl and I almost fell out. I was truly scared. |
| 19:55.42 | psychonate | What is stderr short for? |
| 19:55.42 | nanok | Scorpaen: wellcome to earth, you humanoid.. |
| 19:55.42 | psychonate | standard ...? |
| 19:55.49 | stew | error |
| 19:55.51 | karnov | exit |
| 19:55.57 | Scorpaen | nanok, thanks. :) |
| 19:55.59 | deadcat | concept10: damn. what city is that? |
| 19:56.05 | p8m-work | I'm attempting to install Debian on an old laptop (Gateway solo 2100) and it can't load the i82365 module and the cardbus slots don't work. What could cause this? |
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| 19:56.36 | concept10 | deadcat, umm.. Dallas / Ft.worth metrople |
| 19:56.48 | deadcat | concept10: ah.. no wonder. |
| 19:57.04 | Sarge3 | it's wonderful! |
| 19:57.10 | concept10 | deadcat, why do you say that? |
| 19:57.10 | Sarge3 | gimp is the perfection! |
| 19:57.12 | Scorpaen | ok it says i need to add contrib and non free archives. how do i go about doing that? (nvidia installer) |
| 19:57.12 | Musggl | I have debian and win 98 .. and I have two sound board (pci), how i can select one to use with linux ? |
| 19:57.16 | Sarge3 | i love open source |
| 19:57.30 | deadcat | Musggl: dont load the other module |
| 19:57.39 | deadcat | Musggl: chances are one card is not supported anyway (= |
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| 19:57.53 | concept10 | Sarge3, open source, open legs and open beer bottles is the way to go. |
| 19:58.03 | deadcat | concept10: hhaha |
| 19:58.22 | Pihti | 1 hour 18 min downloading... |
| 19:58.27 | Pihti | hmmm. |
| 19:58.43 | Musggl | deadcat, in file /etc/modprob.d/sound I have |
| 19:58.44 | Musggl | alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371 |
| 19:58.44 | Musggl | options snd-ens1371 index=0 |
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| 19:59.01 | deadcat | Musggl: i guess the blacklist file for hotplug maybe |
| 19:59.05 | Pihti | Musggl: that one is for sound blaster 128 |
| 19:59.26 | Musggl | I want that linux load (boot) snd-ens1371 |
| 19:59.28 | Pihti | Musggl: can you send us lspci printout? |
| 19:59.35 | Musggl | ok |
| 20:00.14 | nanok | p8m-work: hm.. that's...vague |
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| 20:00.49 | Pihti | Musggl: look at audio lines |
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| 20:01.23 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: what up |
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| 20:01.45 | meowwuff | using mdadm how do I initalize /dev/md0?.. |
| 20:01.54 | meowwuff | cause everytime i run mdadm to create the array it wont let me.. |
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| 20:02.08 | PoPnow | to mount a dir on /dev/hdb1/var to /var in /etc/fstab is this the way to do it "/dev/hdb1/var /var ext3 defaults 1 2" I can't get it to work |
| 20:02.16 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: sup |
| 20:02.25 | meowwuff | tells me error /dev/md0 no such device etc.. |
| 20:02.59 | greycat | I seriously doubt you have a device called /dev/hdb1/var |
| 20:03.14 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: do you get diff badge holder? "... are at the exibitor check-in desk." |
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| 20:03.59 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: I will, yes; the badge holder doesn't really matter for the people who will just be helping every now and then |
| 20:04.05 | PoPnow | greycat.. hehe ok I have a dir called var on /dev/hdb1 and I would like to mount it to /var |
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| 20:04.11 | lilo | erm, under protest ;) |
| 20:04.22 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: doh. (= no special priv. for me then eh? |
| 20:04.24 | Blissex | meowwuff: what's difficult to understand in «/dev/md0 no such device» |
| 20:04.34 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i want VIP |
| 20:04.34 | meowwuff | blissex: haha, nothing :)_ |
| 20:04.38 | nanok | PoPnow: you dont mount dirs, first of all |
| 20:04.41 | meowwuff | blissex: except it doesnt freaking WORK |
| 20:04.55 | Blissex | meowwuff: it is not that interesting to say '' does not work''. |
| 20:04.56 | meowwuff | blissex: despite the fact that it exists.. I was wanting to know how to initailize /dev/md0 |
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| 20:05.21 | greycat | PoPnow: then the device is /dev/hdb1 |
| 20:05.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: are you at moscone centre right now? |
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| 20:05.39 | Blissex | meowwuff: ''exist'' is a rather philosphical term... As far as the 'md' system is concerned, virtual RAID devices are _defined_ explicitly. |
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| 20:06.10 | meowwuff | blissex: via mdadm.conf which I've done. |
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| 20:06.17 | Blissex | meowwuff: I supect you imagine RAID devices to work differently from what they actually do. |
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| 20:06.20 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: no |
| 20:06.26 | iostream | Hi. During install, debian asks me about my domainname, what am I suppose to type in that box, if the machine has no domainname? |
| 20:06.28 | alc_ | hi all |
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| 20:06.42 | Blissex | meowwuff: have you also done 'meadm --create' or something like that? |
| 20:06.48 | meowwuff | blissex: of course man |
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| 20:07.03 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: what the hell dude. the website said monday and theres like 4 names there. (= |
| 20:07.05 | Cipo | ciao a tutti |
| 20:07.12 | meowwuff | blissex: i've done everything, including reading all the documentation,. |
| 20:07.14 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: *shrug* |
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| 20:07.28 | Cipo | qualche italiano? |
| 20:07.40 | Pihti | Cipo, english only |
| 20:07.41 | deadcat | Cipo: no italiano |
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| 20:07.49 | FieldySnuts | tasso? |
| 20:07.54 | Blissex | meowwuff: uhmmm.... Have you also tried '--query' and '--scan' to see what you have actually defined? |
| 20:08.07 | Cipo | ok...sorry;) |
| 20:08.08 | Zap-W | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.52 | Blissex | meowwuff: BTW, what about using DM and LVM2/EVMS2 instead? That's the path to the future. |
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| 20:09.11 | meowwuff | blissex: cause i've never used it before, it scares me :) |
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| 20:09.53 | X2 | hi, guys |
| 20:10.12 | meowwuff | blissex: ya erm 1 sec |
| 20:10.12 | Scorpaen | the nvidia install says i need to add contrib and non free archives. how do i go about doing that? (nvidia installer) |
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| 20:10.40 | Blissex | meowwuff: however DM with LVM2 or EVMS2 is probably a bit easier too. Especially EVMS2, which has got a fairly nice ''partition magic'' style frontend. |
| 20:10.47 | X2 | what linux IDE would you recommend for writing some C++ code ? vi/gcc is way too slow |
| 20:10.51 | Blissex | Scorpaen: to '/etc/apt/sources.list' |
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| 20:11.03 | Blissex | X2: too slow in what sense? |
| 20:11.24 | meowwuff | blissex: using an application because its prettier isn't what I watn, I'd rather get this raidarrayinitalized and working properly.. |
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| 20:11.31 | welson | my mysql fails to start due to me accidently deleting the debian-sys-maint user in the db, anyone knows how i can fix this? |
| 20:11.44 | Scorpaen | Blissex, what line(s) do i add to that file? |
| 20:12.11 | X2 | Blissex : i like the way of bc31 on dos.. alt+f9 compile, highlighted code, etc.. |
| 20:12.16 | vincent | Scorpaen: edit /etc/apt/sources.list man 'sources.list' to find the syntax |
| 20:12.22 | Blissex | Scorpaen: that depends on which repositories you are using, it would be very nice to read this HOWTO (indeed every Debian user should be very familiar with that).http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ |
| 20:12.36 | Scorpaen | ok i'll check it out |
| 20:12.56 | Blissex | X2: But VI (VIM more precisely) with GCC does all that. |
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| 20:13.06 | X2 | Blissex: i have to edit, save, compile, run... for every single change :| |
| 20:13.15 | Blissex | X2: however, there many other development environment... |
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| 20:13.28 | LSorensen | X2: :w<enter> :make<enter> |
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| 20:13.41 | Blissex | X2: no you don't. :-) Perhaps reading a nice VIM (remember: VIM) manual will help immeasurably. |
| 20:14.02 | PissedTrixBunny | xnet |
| 20:14.07 | PissedTrixBunny | exit |
| 20:14.09 | PissedTrixBunny | clear |
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| 20:14.16 | SimonRaven | @quit |
| 20:14.20 | Blissex | X2: VIM has integrated compile/jump to error message/... facilities too, all activatable with single keypresses if you want. |
| 20:14.26 | SimonRaven | !quit |
| 20:14.26 | dpkg | try /quit |
| 20:14.44 | X2 | Blissex: some code completitions would be very nice too :) |
| 20:14.46 | Blissex | X2: plus highlighting etc. Of course quite a few other development environment have something like that. |
| 20:14.49 | Pihti | x2, istall motor |
| 20:14.58 | Pihti | it works finne also |
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| 20:15.16 | Blissex | X2: and VIM it has code completion! And some mad soul has even added ''intellisense'' like features to VIM. |
| 20:15.27 | vincent | what are some good load monitoring tools like top but give more info about what is using the cpu ? |
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| 20:15.45 | Blissex | X2: really, VIM has all that. The one thing that it does not do it write Make files for you. |
| 20:16.04 | Pihti | Motor does even makefiles if you need them |
| 20:16.06 | Blissex | X2: if you want IDEs that automagically write project/Make file for you, there are several. |
| 20:16.17 | Pihti | I do not understand how vim works |
| 20:16.18 | nanok | Blissex: others? that is, somebody actually bothered to replace vim with something else?...strange.. |
| 20:16.21 | nanok | :) |
| 20:16.28 | Pihti | just able to edit if nothing else is usable :D |
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| 20:16.51 | Blissex | X2: Anjuta, KDevelop (Motor apparently too), Eclipse, are the major ones. |
| 20:16.53 | PissedTrixBunny | hi everyone, samba isn't working out too well with the mac machine at work (especially with Tiger). Is there a different protocol that's good to setup lan network on Debian (acting as server) for all the Mac machine to access... here's what I've been looking at: AppleTalk... netatalk... please chime in... thanks |
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| 20:17.11 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: uh... NFS? |
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| 20:17.21 | greycat | c'mon. |
| 20:17.21 | Blissex | X2: but probably you need to learn a new editor. So your choice is either to get deeper into VIM or learn a new IDE and environment. |
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| 20:17.27 | vincent | ahah gc |
| 20:17.32 | Blissex | vincent: 'htop' for example |
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| 20:18.11 | vincent | hrm ill check it out. trying to see why this system has such a high load, i think an app is causing the cache to thrash |
| 20:18.32 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, but I heard that NFS is very hard to secure |
| 20:18.33 | Jimmy-HPC | anyone know why rsync updates for my internal debian mirror are not updating and don't output error messages to the console |
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| 20:18.36 | deefzi | vittu et on huono päällepuhuttu ääninäyttely täs sin citys |
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| 20:18.42 | X2 | Blissex, Pihti : thanks, i'm trying with motor and kdevelop right now.. i'm very familiar with bc on dos, that's why i mention it |
| 20:18.44 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I want user authentication on LAN |
| 20:18.51 | streuner | deefzi: english |
| 20:19.02 | SimonRaven | netatalk. it's a buncha macs |
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| 20:19.11 | SimonRaven | they'll have clients |
| 20:19.12 | deefzi | streuner, whoops. alt-numbered on wrong channel. :-/ |
| 20:19.12 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: you were looking at SAMBA. and you complain about NFS's security? |
| 20:19.16 | greycat | !pal PissedTrixBunny |
| 20:19.21 | streuner | deefzi: hehe |
| 20:19.25 | SimonRaven | greycat: :D |
| 20:19.32 | decaf | im looking for somebody to steal freeipods.com and mp3players4free.com's code for me, and im willing to pay at minimum $5,000 for the job. im not looking in the chan, so msg me if interested, only SERIOUS inquiries please. you need to be able to take the code as well as the database. |
| 20:19.33 | PissedTrixBunny | hehe... SAMBA is pretty secure... I guess... I don't know |
| 20:19.43 | SimonRaven | uh, not really |
| 20:19.48 | Yabden | to hell if it is |
| 20:19.54 | greycat | decaf: go away. |
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| 20:20.04 | PissedTrixBunny | but I need a solution that works with all computers... mac and pc |
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| 20:20.16 | PissedTrixBunny | what about xinetd? |
| 20:20.20 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: ask #samba why it failed. |
| 20:20.20 | SimonRaven | decaf: get a fucking life, retard |
| 20:20.21 | vincent | samba secure ? heh it ships with like 5-6 vulns |
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| 20:20.43 | Feyr-Wrk | what changed between apache 1.3.26 and 1.3.33 that would prevent a config line "include /etc/sitesconfig/sites" from working? "sites" being a directory containing multiple files to include |
| 20:20.54 | SuperFly | ugh. need some help again. i have a script called syslog2mysql.sh that needs to start upon boot, AFTER mysql starts.... I have the script in /etc/init.d ... so how can I have it start after mysql starts? |
| 20:21.12 | streuner | oh oh |
| 20:21.13 | SimonRaven | decaf: if you were actually serious, would you ask publically, in a public channel? i don't fucking think so, mr. nsa luser |
| 20:21.20 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I've been working on samba... but there's a known issue between samba and Tiger... so I'm abandoning that... I'm just looking for a different way to do it... a different protocol... I wonder if netatalk is the best.... what about xinetd? |
| 20:21.20 | Pihti | SuperFly: use a number S** bigger than mysql has |
| 20:21.21 | Blissex | SuperFly: higher numbered link... |
| 20:21.46 | SuperFly | ok, how do i figure out what number mysql uses? sorry, never used this before |
| 20:21.49 | SimonRaven | lilo: it's called "calling the bluff" |
| 20:21.55 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: as soon as you said it HAD to work on "pcs", whatever that means (I assume it means "microsoft windows XP boxes with no 3rd party software"), that limited your options dramatically. |
| 20:22.07 | streuner | Can we get just get rif of this moron? |
| 20:22.11 | lilo | SimonRaven: I think you are underestimating some folks' lack of understanding of where they are 8) |
| 20:22.11 | Pihti | SuperFly: look at rc.d directories |
| 20:22.11 | oskie | does anyone know if GNU readline is programmed by a single person? i can't find an archive for the bug-readline mailing list, there's no bug tracker, and there's no AUTHORS or THANKS document in the tarball |
| 20:22.12 | streuner | s/rif/rid/ |
| 20:22.13 | SimonRaven | SuperFly: number of what? |
| 20:22.19 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: whatever windows or mac os X porblems you're having, they're out of scope here. |
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| 20:22.27 | SimonRaven | lilo: possibly :) |
| 20:22.50 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I want to install a software onto my Debian server... to run a LAN protocol... |
| 20:23.00 | PissedTrixBunny | I'm not installing anythign onto windows or Mac |
| 20:23.04 | PissedTrixBunny | kind of like FTP |
| 20:23.07 | PissedTrixBunny | but for LAN |
| 20:23.19 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: right. that's why I said you're stuck. |
| 20:23.20 | Pihti | PissedTrixBunny: then install a ftp server and block it in your firewall |
| 20:23.32 | greycat | not willing to install anything on the windows box == you are stuck with microsoft's offerings. |
| 20:23.38 | SuperFly | ok.. i see now. what does the S##<script> mean? |
| 20:23.48 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro, are you there? |
| 20:23.53 | greycat | SuperFly: read /etc/init.d/rc |
| 20:23.53 | Pihti | you can install a ftp server, but BLOCK IT IN THE FIREWALL!!!! |
| 20:24.01 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I see. so there's not garantee thing... |
| 20:24.08 | vincent | don't run ftp |
| 20:24.08 | SimonRaven | lilo: just that that "proposal" is entrapment, and it triggered some cop radar in my head |
| 20:24.22 | Supaplex | apt look at dpkg |
| 20:24.28 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: so it's SMB or HTTP. |
| 20:25.02 | SimonRaven | can we like, get a k-line for that idjit? |
| 20:25.34 | Supaplex | ftp is teh suck for non anonymous logins. |
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| 20:25.41 | greycat | ftp is teh suck. |
| 20:26.01 | greycat | although it sucks *slightly* less when it's anonymous. |
| 20:26.05 | SimonRaven | thank you :) |
| 20:26.10 | stew | something tells me the NSA wouldn't be using a cablemodem in Queens, NYC, but i dunno |
| 20:26.21 | greycat | stew: adds authenticity...? |
| 20:26.24 | SimonRaven | stew: no, but it stinks |
| 20:26.42 | SimonRaven | "smells like pork" |
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| 20:26.44 | stew | who knows |
| 20:26.52 | greycat | either way, not someone we want here |
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| 20:26.57 | stew | absolutely |
| 20:26.59 | SimonRaven | exaclty |
| 20:27.00 | Supaplex | stinks? the NSA or NYC? or both? |
| 20:27.10 | greycat | SuperFly: "decaf" |
| 20:27.17 | greycat | err, Supaplex |
| 20:28.03 | dondelelcaro | Jimmy-HPC: ? |
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| 20:29.36 | saintiss | hi |
| 20:29.47 | saintiss | I'm trying to build a package using dh_make and debuild |
| 20:29.54 | emorys | how come safe-mail, marketed as a secure mail solution, broadcasts my ip in the headers of all sent mail? |
| 20:29.57 | emorys | even fastmail.fm does not do this. |
| 20:30.14 | saintiss | however, the *deb I end up with does not contain any files created by make... even though these files are in debian/tmp |
| 20:30.27 | saintiss | (on a sidenote, I'm using compat 4 so I wouldn't expect a tmp/ dir actually) |
| 20:30.45 | PissedTrixBunny | how do I compress files into *.zip file? |
| 20:31.00 | streuner | PissedTrixBunny: man zip? |
| 20:31.05 | dondelelcaro | emorys: to prevent abuse, probably enough. |
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| 20:33.39 | ThePiratemaster | does anyone know any shells that allow me to configure acces restrictions for users? |
| 20:33.51 | Pihti | rsh |
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| 20:33.58 | Pihti | rlogin |
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| 20:34.12 | Thanatermesis | cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.cinelerra.org rejected access to /var/lib/cvs for user anoncvs |
| 20:34.15 | Thanatermesis | any idea ? |
| 20:34.23 | greycat | ask the people who run that server |
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| 20:34.33 | greycat | !any idea |
| 20:34.33 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of ground beef, a little WD-40, and a handful of rabid ostriches. And keep the cops off my back for the next few hours! |
| 20:34.46 | astronut | .... |
| 20:34.50 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 20:34.53 | streuner | didn't it say it already - no anonymous user |
| 20:34.53 | astronut | who the hell came up with that list of ingredients? |
| 20:34.58 | Supaplex | emorys: must you ask that same question every hour? is it not plainly obvious the people that setup and maintain those sites are responsible? what possible change on your client do you think could influence that? and further more, what does it have to do with debian? |
| 20:35.01 | greycat | astronut: dpkg. |
| 20:35.09 | astronut | greycat: was given them by someone |
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| 20:35.15 | greycat | !factinfo any idea |
| 20:35.16 | dpkg | any idea -- created by greycat <~wooledg@192.35.79.70> at Thu Aug 19 13:24:04 2004 (354 days); it has been requested 28 times, last by greycat, 43s ago. |
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| 20:35.58 | astronut | greycat: ah...what the heck were you thinking? |
| 20:35.58 | ThePiratemaster | any bashlike shells :P |
| 20:36.04 | Supaplex | yea, I have an idea. but I'll need 15 meters of garden hose, a chicken and large swimming pool. |
| 20:36.12 | greycat | astronut: it's randomized, of course. |
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| 20:36.13 | welson | how can i repair mysqld if i accidently deleted the user debian-sys-maint ? |
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| 20:36.49 | astronut | greycat: how do i get the ruleset or whatever out of him |
| 20:37.07 | saintiss | I'm trying to build a package using dh_make and debuild |
| 20:37.10 | saintiss | however, the *deb I end up with does not contain any files created by make... even though these files are in debian/tmp |
| 20:37.13 | saintiss | (on a sidenote, I'm using compat 4 so I wouldn't expect a tmp/ dir actually) |
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| 20:37.19 | Supaplex | I didn't, until now read dpkg's response on "any idea", but I still remember the general idea. :p |
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| 20:37.37 | Crell | Is there a "common" or "recommended" place to run chrooted deamons such as bind or postfix? I'm walking through a tutorial that is suggesting /var/lib/bind/, which doesn't quite make sense to me. I'm no expert, though, so I thought I'd check here. |
| 20:37.40 | stew | welson: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian |
| 20:37.46 | greycat | astronut: /msg dpkg literal any idea |
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| 20:37.58 | greycat | which is a redirect to "any ideas" |
| 20:38.08 | astronut | heh |
| 20:38.16 | SuperFly | omg. this initd stuff is complicated |
| 20:38.18 | astronut | greycat: i wish someone had a tutorial for dpgk and a list of factoids |
| 20:38.22 | SuperFly | what is the difference between S and K scripts?! |
| 20:38.27 | greycat | astronut: the "list" would be thousands long. |
| 20:38.30 | greycat | SuperFly: Start, Kill |
| 20:38.32 | stew | SuperFly: start and kill |
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| 20:39.04 | stew | Crell: /msg dpkg fhs |
| 20:39.34 | SuperFly | most of the Kill scripts are in rc6.d by default? |
| 20:39.37 | Crell | I've read that before. It doesn't say anything about chrooted deamons, though, does it? I don't remember it doing so when last I read it. |
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| 20:39.51 | greycat | SuperFly: probably. |
| 20:39.54 | LSorensen | SuperFly: 6 and 0 |
| 20:39.58 | greycat | SuperFly: but they're symlinks, not scripts. |
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| 20:40.05 | astronut | why does dpkg not have a debian user host? |
| 20:40.07 | stew | Crell: no it doens't specifically cover chrooted daemons, but it would tell you what /var/lib/ is for and you could decide if you think there is a better place |
| 20:40.07 | LSorensen | SuperFly: since that is reboot and shutdown after all |
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| 20:40.28 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: Invalid command 'PerlSetVar', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration, this is on apache2. |
| 20:40.34 | LSorensen | astronut: what do you mean? |
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| 20:40.52 | Petrov | how can i install xserver? |
| 20:41.00 | astronut | LSorensen: --- [dpkg] (N=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) : apt backup |
| 20:41.04 | LSorensen | Petrov: apt-get install x-server-system |
| 20:41.04 | astronut | unafilliated |
| 20:41.05 | Crell | stew: The reason I am asking is to see if there is a general consensus on the matter. I am more than happy to go with the majority. :-) |
| 20:41.09 | LSorensen | Petrov: er x-window-system |
| 20:41.11 | astronut | not debian/bot/dpkg |
| 20:41.27 | LSorensen | astronut: what would you expect to see? |
| 20:41.34 | astronut | LSorensen: see above |
| 20:41.35 | LSorensen | astronut: dpkg@debian? |
| 20:41.35 | greycat | "apt backup" is no longer accurate |
| 20:41.37 | stew | Crell: /var/lib/ is by far the most common place afaik |
| 20:41.45 | astronut | dpkg@debian/bot/dpkg |
| 20:42.01 | astronut | (hyperion uses /'s not .'s for vhosts) |
| 20:42.10 | Crell | OK. Better a non-perfect standard than a perfect chaos. |
| 20:42.11 | Crell | Thanks. |
| 20:42.15 | Petrov | LSorensen: I do that but it does not work |
| 20:42.15 | stew | Crell: /usr, /etc/ are out of the question, somehwere in /home could be argued for |
| 20:42.29 | LSorensen | Petrov: how does it not work? |
| 20:42.42 | LSorensen | Petrov: it fails to install, or it doesn't work after you configure it? |
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| 20:42.59 | Crell | stew: Agreed. I tend to use /home for non-home stuff that I want owned by non-root, like IMAP Maildirs, etc. |
| 20:43.24 | astronut | Crell: that's what /var is for |
| 20:43.26 | greycat | my maildirs are literally *in* their respective users' home directories, where god (djb) intended. |
| 20:43.29 | Petrov | LSorensen: it doesn't work after i configure et |
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| 20:43.35 | SuperFly | Why does it create a symlink in each of the rc*.d directories? |
| 20:43.37 | welson | stew, thanks, I've already been checking out that file after realizing i did this mistake-- but still even with my created ~/,my.cnf file my daemon is not loading ( http://pastebin.ca/19567 ) |
| 20:43.43 | greycat | SuperFly: that's how sysvinit works. |
| 20:43.49 | astronut | greycat: djb is god? |
| 20:43.51 | greycat | SuperFly: the same script is used for both starting and killing the service |
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| 20:43.55 | greycat | astronut: in this case :) |
| 20:43.56 | LSorensen | Petrov: maybe you configured it wrong, or you ahveunsupported hardware |
| 20:43.57 | astronut | greycat: qmail fan i'm assuming |
| 20:43.59 | Crell | astronut: Yes, but /home is easier to backup in one shot. (It also is on a separate, much larger hard drive on my server. <g>) |
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| 20:44.13 | astronut | Crell: *nods* |
| 20:44.21 | hans | can anyone point me to saslauthd in debian? I can't figure out what package it might be |
| 20:44.22 | astronut | need to backup server |
| 20:44.29 | hans | (ultimate goal: postfix sasl ldap) |
| 20:44.29 | stew | welson: you recreated the debian-sys-maint user? |
| 20:44.36 | astronut | hans: sasl |
| 20:44.37 | Petrov | LSorensen: apt-get install x-window-system-core ??? |
| 20:44.45 | LSorensen | Petrov: core has less stuff |
| 20:44.47 | astronut | hans: which version of sasl? |
| 20:44.52 | hans | 2 is fine |
| 20:44.53 | astronut | 2 or 7? |
| 20:44.53 | LSorensen | Petrov: x-window-system has more stuff included |
| 20:44.55 | stew | welson: and gave it a password? and you put the password in /etc/mysql/whateveritwas.cnf? |
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| 20:45.02 | astronut | err, 1 or 2 |
| 20:45.09 | hans | i have libsasl2 and libsasl2-module... |
| 20:45.12 | Patrick` | did anyone catch who k-lined decaf, only he's back under a different nick? |
| 20:45.13 | astronut | libsasl2, libsasl2-* |
| 20:45.32 | Patrick` | s/?// |
| 20:45.33 | greycat | Patrick`: most likely lilo |
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| 20:45.42 | Patrick` | greycat: k, will give him a bell |
| 20:45.44 | stew | Patrick`: we don't see who does the kline |
| 20:45.54 | astronut | hans: sasl2-bin |
| 20:46.00 | astronut | sasl2-bin: usr/sbin/saslauthd |
| 20:46.07 | hans | thanks |
| 20:46.13 | astronut | hans: apt-file is your friend :-) |
| 20:46.37 | stew | Patrick`: "/stats p" will give you a list of freenode staff you can /msg |
| 20:46.39 | websdale | Petrov:you should have an error log in /var/log for XFree86 if you tried to start X but it failed |
| 20:46.40 | hans | not familiar with apt-file, I'll have to check it out. |
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| 20:46.48 | Patrick` | stew: yeah, it's just picking the right one ... |
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| 20:47.01 | Patrick` | stew: and all the channels relevant are +m COUGH #FREENODE COUGH |
| 20:47.02 | astronut | hans: it searches within a dbase of debian packages for files they contain |
| 20:47.10 | stew | Patrick`: /stats p |
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| 20:47.22 | Patrick` | stew: ah, there's 2 |
| 20:47.22 | stew | Patrick`: there are only 2, this is a server feature specifically for this purpose |
| 20:48.11 | hans | astronut: cool, thanks. |
| 20:48.54 | welson | stew, there's not supposed to be a user debian-sys-maint in the linux os, correct? i can't even run a mysql_safe startup with root or mysql user |
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| 20:49.49 | Jimmy-HPC | hi dondelecaro, you helped me out a lot last time and I was hoping you had a couple of spare minutes |
| 20:49.49 | lilo | did decaf come back under a different nick? |
| 20:49.51 | lilo | ah |
| 20:50.13 | john_ | Hi folks, I just installed deb with the new installer and it installs me grub... Anyone may tell me the equivalent to the "lilo" command for grub please ? |
| 20:50.14 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro: I needed to ask a couple questions about debian mirroring |
| 20:50.17 | stew | welson: oh i see, you can't even start mysql to fix the fact that you broke it. |
| 20:50.27 | ma3x | lilo, yes, he said you couldn't put him another kline |
| 20:50.27 | Patrick` | john_: grub is too different |
| 20:50.30 | Jimmy-HPC | john_: grub_install |
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| 20:50.52 | stew | welson: back up your databases, and --reinstall it maybe? or dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server maybe? |
| 20:51.18 | welson | stew, how do i change the question-level with dpkg-reconfigure on a package? |
| 20:51.20 | john_ | Jimmy-HPC, Ok, thanks. So if as for lil9o i modify the config file and rnu this command, it wil setup my mbr the way i have set in the config file right ? |
| 20:51.43 | welson | stew, i remember getting more prompts at one point-- |
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| 20:51.55 | Jimmy-HPC | john_: i believe there are a couple of things after the command that you have to say |
| 20:51.58 | dondelelcaro | Jimmy-HPC: sure, ask away. |
| 20:52.03 | Blissex | welson: I think that is a FAQ for MySQL. There are also #MySQL and #SQL channels that can help you find the FAQ :-) |
| 20:52.04 | stew | welson: dpkg-reconfigure -p<level> wehre level is low,medium,high,critical. low is the default |
| 20:52.05 | welson | aye.. anyone can refresh my poor memory? |
| 20:52.14 | welson | ok ok..thanks :). |
| 20:52.25 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro: alright so i'm trying to mirror debian-security |
| 20:52.27 | stew | Blissex: mysql is not likely to help him with this as it is a debian specific problem |
| 20:52.33 | LSorensen | welson: just adjust the refresh setting in your bios and it will take care of it for you |
| 20:52.36 | welson | Blissex, actually the debian-sys-maint is os specific.. |
| 20:52.37 | Jimmy-HPC | but the rsync just doesnt' do anything when i issue the command |
| 20:52.47 | Jimmy-HPC | and there is no console output |
| 20:52.54 | Blissex | welson: basically look for the '~/.my.cnf' file for 'root', if I understand whats the problem about. |
| 20:52.56 | LSorensen | Jimmy-HPC: add -v |
| 20:52.57 | Jimmy-HPC | so I guess I'm asking is mirroring debian security really necessary? |
| 20:52.59 | john_ | Jimmy-HPC, argh, that's just too shitty to change the bootloader that way, liloo was just so simple and cool |
| 20:53.09 | stew | Blissex: how is that going to help? |
| 20:53.10 | Jimmy-HPC | -v has already been added and there is still no output |
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| 20:53.29 | LSorensen | jim: security is almost never mirrored. I seem to recall they prefer it to be that way |
| 20:53.32 | Jimmy-HPC | john: i agree, but grub really isn't that bad, let me find a good guide for it |
| 20:53.50 | Jimmy-HPC | john: as i remember gentoo has a really good guide for making grub work correctly, let me fin dit |
| 20:53.56 | LSorensen | john_: grub is much simpler than lilo when setup, especially on debian sarge and newer |
| 20:54.14 | LSorensen | john_: update-grub generates a good menu.lst and you are all set |
| 20:54.25 | john_ | LSorensen, i simply modify the config file and type lilo.... How complicated is this ? |
| 20:54.41 | takatumi | john_: in grub you just modify the config, done. |
| 20:54.44 | john_ | LSorensen, oh, ok, i'll try that way |
| 20:54.44 | LSorensen | john_: the fact you had to type lilo makes it too complex. with grub you simply edit the config. |
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| 20:54.57 | stew | welson: http://forums.rimuhosting.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97 |
| 20:55.19 | LSorensen | john_: of course with grub on debian you generally don't even need to do that, installing a new kernel adds to the list, removing a kernel removes from list, at least if you installed sarge from scratch, or added the kernel-image hooks |
| 20:55.26 | john_ | LSorensen, ok, so simply using this utility will set it up and write to the MBR, right ? |
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| 20:55.48 | LSorensen | john_: no you do that once. once done it is done forever. grub-install /dev/hda or where your MBR is |
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| 20:56.03 | BobW | can someone help me send mail from my debian box |
| 20:56.06 | LSorensen | john_: update-grub maintains the menu.lst config file |
| 20:56.10 | BobW | how can i reconfigure my exim settings? |
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| 20:56.24 | BobW | dpkg-reconfigure exim4 didnt work |
| 20:56.30 | stew | BobW: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 20:56.34 | john_ | LSorensen, if i want to edit the config file and then write to the mbr, how should i do ? |
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| 20:57.00 | takatumi | john_: it's already written to the MBR, get on with it. |
| 20:57.00 | john_ | "manually" edit the config file |
| 20:57.02 | danilom | hi, what can i control using samba scripting in a hybrid net? |
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| 20:57.15 | john_ | takatumi, changes i will do are not in the mbr |
| 20:57.22 | BobW | stew, should i split everything into smaller files...whats best? |
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| 20:57.28 | takatumi | john_: doesn't matter. info grub |
| 20:57.29 | Jimmy-HPC | john_: well here's the fast explanation here, you have to configure /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/grub.conf, as I remember its the same, and I don't know how to tell which one is used right off hand, on debian I'm pretty sure that /boot/grub/menu.lst is the thing to edit, so assuming its edited correctly, the procedure is as follows: |
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| 20:57.37 | stew | BobW: i dunno |
| 20:57.42 | BWX-anarcarrot | is there a free cd burning software, with neat GUI for windows? |
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| 20:58.04 | stew | BWX-anarcarrot: wrong channel |
| 20:58.12 | LSorensen | john_: you writing to the MBR and editing the config have nothing to do with each other on gurb, which is how it should be. lilo's design was stupid |
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| 20:58.39 | Jimmy-HPC | john_: run grub as root and type root (hd0,0) assuming that your boot partition or whatever partition that contains /boot is |
| 20:58.44 | john_ | LSorensen, so grub loads the config file at boot ? |
| 20:58.58 | Jimmy-HPC | john_: then setup (hd0) |
| 20:58.59 | pirre | b |
| 20:59.05 | Jimmy-HPC | and it should work |
| 20:59.08 | pirre | s/b// |
| 20:59.15 | Jimmy-HPC | err type quit after that |
| 20:59.55 | LSorensen | john_: yes. grub reads all files from the filesystem it needs. lilo makes a map of blocks when you run lilo and saves that. that's why lilo breaks if you change any boot files, while grub just keeps working |
| 21:00.16 | BWX-anarcarrot | stew, yes... sorry, but where to ask? #gnu gives me only disrespect |
| 21:00.19 | john_ | LSorensen, ok, thanks |
| 21:00.21 | LSorensen | john_: lilo knows nothing about filesystems. |
| 21:00.48 | LSorensen | john_: it just hard codes file locations. if the kernel wasn't added to lilo's map you can't boot it. grub can boot anyting you tell it to boot if it can read your disk |
| 21:00.48 | john_ | LSorensen, got it, thanks |
| 21:01.07 | LSorensen | john_: grub on a floppy is a great way to recover the boot on a system, since it can boot the system's own kernel from the hd |
| 21:01.09 | john_ | I am gonna try this |
| 21:01.12 | Jimmy-HPC | LSorenson: I will agree that lilo has its advantages |
| 21:01.26 | Pihti | LSorensen: can the Grub also start a bootable cdrom? |
| 21:01.54 | Jimmy-HPC | but yes being able to change the config of grub on the fly before bootign is very nice because as you said the configuration is stored on the filesystem rather than hardcoded |
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| 21:02.08 | Jimmy-HPC | Pihti: indeed it can |
| 21:02.09 | LSorensen | Pihti: hmm, never looked. |
| 21:02.23 | dondelelcaro | Jimmy-HPC: anyway, what is the command that you're using to mirror security.debian.org? |
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| 21:02.45 | Jimmy-HPC | I'm using the standard rsync command that is used in the script downoaded fro debian.org |
| 21:02.47 | nanok | Pihti: it can as long as it is on the same media, that's for sure, in theory it just can, but it does need the bios to know about the cdrom device first |
| 21:02.50 | Pihti | If it could be configured like that, it would help me to use a grub floppy with a install cd that is bootable... |
| 21:02.51 | nanok | at least for now |
| 21:03.11 | nanok | that is, if the bios cant boot off cd, grub will not be able to either |
| 21:03.13 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro: in fact, the script that you sent me the link to |
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| 21:03.37 | takatumi | Pihti: yes, it can, look at info grub there are examples iirc. |
| 21:03.39 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro: I am not sure whether having a separate mirror for non-us and for security is even necessary |
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| 21:03.55 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro: perhaps you can give me your opinion on that |
| 21:03.57 | Pihti | nanok, but I have pc machines where bios does not know the hard disk either, and lilo boots without problem on those units :D |
| 21:04.06 | Pihti | and it starts off hard disk :D |
| 21:04.07 | TwistedEmotions | I am trying to get php galley to work in apache2 and I am getting the error "Internal Server Error" yada yada... dont know what is going on ;( Help? |
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| 21:04.14 | nanok | Pihti: no |
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| 21:04.27 | dondelelcaro | Jimmy-HPC: security probably, assuming you're running a lot of stable machines; if it's all testing/unstable; no. |
| 21:04.28 | nanok | Pihti: who loads lilo , than? |
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| 21:04.38 | nanok | Pihti: and where from |
| 21:04.39 | dondelelcaro | Jimmy-HPC: as far as non-us, no there's no reason to mirror that at all. |
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| 21:04.49 | Pihti | nanok, the bios knows barely how to read the lilo :) |
| 21:05.03 | Pihti | it does not support 13 gig hard disk at all :D |
| 21:05.05 | Skrotto | Hi.. if I wanted to patch a debian stock kernel (linux-image-2.6.12), would that require me to recompile the whole kernel and other drivers (ipw2200 and fglrx) that I've got installed? |
| 21:05.05 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro: alright, confirmed my suspicions; so which mirror can I use for security? |
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| 21:05.51 | nanok | Pihti: that is another story, but it knows how to boot a hdd |
| 21:05.54 | fatal__ | Skrotto: depends on what the patch changes.... |
| 21:05.57 | takatumi | Skrotto: safer to patch a kernel.org vanilla source, debian kernels might be patched. |
| 21:06.01 | Pihti | yeah |
| 21:06.05 | Pihti | just barely :D |
| 21:06.23 | nanok | Pihti: thats all it needs |
| 21:06.27 | Pihti | but the grub disk sounds interesting... |
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| 21:06.46 | nanok | after the kernel takes over, it doesnt care about what the bios says about the ide drives |
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| 21:07.11 | Skrotto | fatal__, takatumi: it's a patch affecting only cdc-acm.c - one file. |
| 21:07.18 | Pihti | I had some troubles not a long ago with lilo, so grub could be solution. If it can start a cd, it would be a killer app for me |
| 21:07.21 | Pihti | :) |
| 21:07.28 | wishkah | hi, n00b question: apt-get php4 doesn't include mysql support - how to include it? |
| 21:07.42 | Pihti | wiskah, install postgres |
| 21:08.17 | wishkah | I have existing mysql tables |
| 21:08.18 | nkuttler | wishkah: apt-cache search php mysql |
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| 21:08.49 | wishkah | apt-get install php-mysql |
| 21:08.51 | wishkah | seems so obvious :) |
| 21:08.54 | wishkah | thanks |
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| 21:09.09 | Skrotto | fatal__, takatumi: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg36847.html <- thats the patch btw. :) |
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| 21:09.58 | dondelelcaro | Jimmy-HPC: you have to use s.d.o iirc; the following command should work rsync --recursive --links --hard-links --times --verbose --compress --delete rsync://security.debian.org/debian-security |
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| 21:10.14 | wishkah | umm, what's the default mysql "root" password set to? |
| 21:10.16 | rking | so, i'm trying to install the VMWare .rpm, and "alien" says it's not converting the preinst/postinst scripts. i'm wondering how important they might be -- should i go ahead and rerun alien with the --scripts option? |
| 21:10.21 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: we are having hell of a problem with apache2 and libapache-gallery-perl. want to help out? |
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| 21:11.28 | Blissex | rking: because scripts designed for RedHat are going to work without changes on Debian? :-) |
| 21:11.46 | nkuttler | wishkah: apt-get install mysql-doc, search for 'forgot password' or something. maybe you can log in if you are root |
| 21:11.49 | wishkah | nm, google is your friend :) |
| 21:11.56 | wishkah | mysqladmin -u root password your_secret_password |
| 21:12.05 | rking | Blissex: well, right - i'm thinking i'm just going to try to install the naked files and see if vmware runs. i guess i can always dpkg --remove |
| 21:12.26 | Blissex | rking: you can always look at the scripts and do what they do manually... |
| 21:12.46 | rking | Blissex: i'm kind of unsure about how to do that... apt-get install rpm and read help, i guess? |
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| 21:13.14 | Jimmy-HPC | dondelecaro: your suggestion works, thanks, btw what does s.d.o iirc mean?? |
| 21:13.24 | dondelelcaro | Jimmy-HPC: security.debian.org |
| 21:13.48 | dondelelcaro | (it could also mean svn.debian.org or somethingelse.debian.org...) |
| 21:13.54 | Jimmy-HPC | oh hahah, (embarassed) thanks for your help, its much appreciated |
| 21:14.00 | Blissex | rking: yes |
| 21:14.25 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: ah, that issue; yeah, I haven't played much with it yet. |
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| 21:14.47 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ah. so you know (=.. its TwistedEmotions, i am using 1.3 hehe |
| 21:14.50 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ^^ |
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| 21:15.14 | Skrotto | Is linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 a rc-release or something? |
| 21:15.15 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: do you have a working gallery? |
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| 21:15.23 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: yes |
| 21:15.30 | dondelelcaro | (but in Apache 1) |
| 21:15.40 | TwistedEmotions | ;( |
| 21:15.53 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: you cant get it to work either? |
| 21:15.54 | deadcat | apache1.3 here as well. thank god i didnt get 2 hahah |
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| 21:16.38 | mattfury | where could i get compiled *deb* kernel? |
| 21:16.42 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: no, I just don't use Apache 2. |
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| 21:16.49 | eeyore- | howdy |
| 21:16.55 | Pihti | mattrufy, use aptitude |
| 21:16.57 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: ;) Ohhh... |
| 21:17.04 | dondelelcaro | mattfury: from your local debian mirror |
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| 21:17.35 | prodope | does smbmount not come with samba/samba-common ? |
| 21:17.38 | deadcat | i got grsec patched and enabled /proc restriction. hella cool hahah |
| 21:17.39 | mattfury | pihiti: what would i type in? |
| 21:17.45 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: anyway, that issue is with Apache::Gallery trying to load the wrong modules for mod_perl (which have only been renamed about 3 times) |
| 21:17.47 | pirre | prodope: packages.debian.org |
| 21:17.48 | deadcat | prodope: smbclient |
| 21:17.48 | mattfury | i tryed kernel-2.6 |
| 21:18.09 | xerophyte | for example i have test1/move_test and /tmp/test1/somefile .. how can i move mv test1 /tmp i get error saying mv: cannot overwrite directory .. how can i overwrite it |
| 21:18.16 | dondelelcaro | !find linux-image- |
| 21:18.16 | prodope | deadcat: i have the smbclient package installed as well... smbmount not found |
| 21:18.18 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'linux-image-' (5): linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 ;; linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 ;; linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp ;; linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 ;; linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7-smp. |
| 21:18.19 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: php-pear for php5 is confusing too. php4 has it as php4-pear |
| 21:18.28 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: will look to find cure.. |
| 21:18.43 | Skrotto | What's with the -1- in those images? |
| 21:18.44 | deadcat | prodope: smbfs |
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| 21:19.11 | Pihti | mattfury: if you do not know what you are doing do not mess with kernels, ok? |
| 21:19.20 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: basically you're seeing #316172 and related issues |
| 21:19.21 | arango | what is the recommender ogg quality setting for CD quality ? |
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| 21:19.28 | dondelelcaro | arango: there isn't one. |
| 21:19.45 | dondelelcaro | arango: ogg is lossy; if you want cd quality use flac. |
| 21:19.51 | Drako60 | i need some help i have a harddrive i'm trying to recover, it was originally in a windows machine, formated to fat32 the errors i get when linux boots is here http://pastebin.com/332316 |
| 21:20.04 | arango | dondelelcaro: almost CD-quality, quasi-CD, how ever you want to call it |
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| 21:20.23 | abrotman | Drako60: back up your data .. NOW |
| 21:20.26 | dondelelcaro | arango: then what that means is dependant upon the listener, the music, and the sound system that it is being played on. |
| 21:20.27 | abrotman | if there's any left :) |
| 21:20.43 | Drako60 | thats what i'm trying to do abrotman but how do i get access to it |
| 21:20.48 | deadcat | ah flac! (= |
| 21:21.03 | abrotman | Drako60: it won't mount ? |
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| 21:21.45 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: Err.. how do I get to #316172? |
| 21:21.47 | Drako60 | well part of it does mount |
| 21:21.56 | abrotman | no . it either mounts .. or it doesn't |
| 21:22.02 | abrotman | each partition ... i mean |
| 21:22.13 | Drako60 | abrotman, is the drive recoverable or is the harddrive itself garbage? |
| 21:22.29 | mattfury | argh all the packages where do i find it? |
| 21:22.32 | Drako60 | yeah its devided into 6 partitions, hdc1 mounts |
| 21:23.02 | abrotman | each partition ... i mean? |
| 21:23.04 | abrotman | bah |
| 21:23.08 | abrotman | Drako60: and the others ? |
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| 21:23.30 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: bugs.debian.org/316172 |
| 21:23.38 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: got it ;) |
| 21:23.41 | takatumi | mattfury: try apt-cache search linux-image |
| 21:23.58 | abrotman | mattfury: sid/etch/sarge ? |
| 21:24.13 | abrotman | mattfury: and what cpu ? |
| 21:24.33 | takatumi | and left or right handed. |
| 21:24.43 | astronut | and male or female? |
| 21:24.50 | abrotman | vi or emacs |
| 21:25.04 | astronut | there's a female version of the kernel...it turns on extra buffering once a month |
| 21:25.25 | takatumi | geiser |
| 21:26.23 | Scorpaen | hey prodope did u figure out smbmount? |
| 21:26.29 | Scorpaen | i'm haivng the same problem... |
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| 21:26.54 | mattfury | abrotman: sarge, 2.0ghz amd? |
| 21:27.02 | mattfury | i cant even remember... |
| 21:27.14 | mattfury | ix86 |
| 21:27.19 | emorys | how secure is a standard webmail service like FastMail.FM if both contacts use it and log in using SSL? |
| 21:27.25 | zbiw | hello |
| 21:27.29 | zbiw | i need some help |
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| 21:27.38 | stew | mattfury: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 21:27.38 | abrotman | mattfury: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 21:27.41 | zbiw | i speak english just a bit |
| 21:27.46 | abrotman | stew: you owe me a beer! |
| 21:27.50 | zbiw | but i'll try to be understood |
| 21:27.52 | stew | !lose abrotman |
| 21:27.53 | dpkg | abrotman: You Lose. |
| 21:27.55 | abrotman | shit .. i could ahve stayed at stew's place last night ! |
| 21:27.56 | arango | Any hints of what number I should use for --quality for ogg ? |
| 21:28.05 | stew | abrotman: were you in brooklyn? |
| 21:28.11 | emorys | arango, 6 is ogg's sweet spot. |
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| 21:28.27 | emorys | it's vorbis, actually. ogg is just the container. |
| 21:28.28 | zbiw | i miss the files dev/sda1 and dev/sa2 |
| 21:28.32 | arango | emorys: thanks |
| 21:28.38 | abrotman | stew: i got to my sister's at 8pm last night .. and contemplated a partial trip back to philly ... |
| 21:28.48 | prower | Hello everyone :> I'm considering installing Debian 3.1 as the OS on a web server I'm setting up...how does it stand up security-wise in comparison with other distributions? |
| 21:28.51 | zbiw | how can i do to restore it ? |
| 21:28.52 | abrotman | stew: she's between worcester and providence |
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| 21:29.06 | abrotman | !fr |
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| 21:29.06 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 21:29.17 | Vladi | hi, im trying to get a listing of all the files on an ftp server is that possible? |
| 21:29.29 | Drako60 | abrotman, ok hdc1 mounts, hdc2 locks the system, hdc3 on doesn't exsist |
| 21:29.34 | nkuttler | zbiw: why did you remove them? try man MAKEDEV |
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| 21:30.01 | abrotman | Drako60: you can dd the entire drive .. but i'd back up any files you care about .. sounds like the drive is shot to me |
| 21:30.16 | abrotman | !shoot Drako60's drive |
| 21:30.32 | takatumi | zbiw: /msg dkpg usb_storage |
| 21:30.34 | Drako60 | right |
| 21:30.37 | stew | abrotman: yeah, you should have stopped by |
| 21:30.49 | zbiw | thank's |
| 21:30.51 | Drako60 | you don't think formatting it would do any good? |
| 21:31.05 | abrotman | stew: actually .. i totally could have stopped in for lunch .. i ate at the rampako(sp?) rest stop at about 1230 |
| 21:31.12 | zbiw | i haven't remove theme |
| 21:31.30 | zbiw | i've just done a umount /..... |
| 21:31.48 | zbiw | and an error occured |
| 21:31.50 | nkuttler | zbiw: do what takatumi told you |
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| 21:32.23 | Phated | Uhm... And how do you think you would have remounted /? Or use anything on it, for that matter? |
| 21:32.48 | zbiw | thank you |
| 21:32.53 | takatumi | heh |
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| 21:33.01 | nkuttler | i wonder how to unmount / if it's busy... |
| 21:33.02 | Zap-W | what came before debian Potato |
| 21:33.07 | abrotman | !releases |
| 21:33.08 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06). The next release will be Etch. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 21:33.19 | abrotman | Zap-W: i think debian.org has that info |
| 21:33.30 | pder | DEBIAN DO NOT SUPPORT COMPUTER |
| 21:33.50 | nkuttler | pder: /msg dpkg caps |
| 21:33.51 | Phated | That has to be the worst troll ever. |
| 21:33.55 | abrotman | how did he get unbanned again ? |
| 21:33.55 | takatumi | pder: buy a new keyboard. |
| 21:34.01 | dondelelcaro | pder: lose the caps please, and be less vague. |
| 21:34.11 | Phated | HEH. |
| 21:34.12 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: he's a troll . .he's been banned numerous times before |
| 21:34.15 | Phated | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 21:34.28 | emorys | Safe-mailTM doesn't require you to fill in any personal information in order to use it. |
| 21:34.39 | emorys | yet it includes your ip address in each and every sent mail. |
| 21:34.45 | emorys | does that make sense? |
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| 21:35.03 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@cpe-24-208-247-116.twmi.res.rr.com] by dondelelcaro |
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| 21:35.07 | takatumi | emorys: dude, it's been a few hours with safemail, try another one, nobody seems to use it. |
| 21:35.25 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: did he msg you ? |
| 21:35.41 | deadcat | abrotman: i told him to /msg dondelelcaro (= |
| 21:35.44 | deadcat | HAHAHAH |
| 21:35.45 | abrotman | what? |
| 21:35.53 | abrotman | deadcat: no you didn't |
| 21:36.00 | deadcat | just kidding |
| 21:36.03 | emorys | takatumi, but i otherwise like safe-mail. |
| 21:36.03 | abrotman | at least .. i would hope you didn't |
| 21:36.06 | emorys | why such a fatal flaw? |
| 21:36.27 | abrotman | ask them ? |
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| 21:36.43 | takatumi | emorys: torify safe-mail :P |
| 21:36.58 | emorys | what's torify? |
| 21:37.04 | abrotman | !tor |
| 21:37.05 | dpkg | [tor] a system of proxies to maintain anonymity, see http://tor.eff.org/ or not allowed on #debian, see http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor |
| 21:37.09 | stroga | is it policy conform to use the date in the form of as YEAR.MONTH.DAY as package version ? |
| 21:37.12 | emorys | abrotman, i did, i have still not received a reply. |
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| 21:37.36 | emorys | you don't allow proxies here? |
| 21:37.42 | concept10 | could someone help me setup a beowolf cluster using 34 ipods with burned LCDs and low batteries? |
| 21:37.52 | emorys | SUCH A BASIC RIGHT AND YOU HAVE FELT FIT TO ABOLISH IT? |
| 21:37.57 | takatumi | emorys: that factoid needs revision. |
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| 21:38.09 | Pihti | emorys, take the caps off |
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| 21:38.20 | emorys | pihti, it makes me angry. |
| 21:38.22 | Phated | Ah, shut up, you'd be whining more when every troll used it and never got permanently banned. |
| 21:38.33 | Drako60 | abrotman, my brother isn't going to be happy if his HDD is shot |
| 21:38.45 | concept10 | ignore that last post, that was a friend |
| 21:38.48 | eeyore- | it's fairly trivial to set up your own mailer + webmail front end |
| 21:38.53 | Drako60 | but from what i'm seeing in dmesg, it looks like the drive has been dropped |
| 21:38.58 | eeyore- | so what's the *real* question here? anonymity? |
| 21:38.59 | zbiw | i don't understand how MAKEDEV works, could someone explain me a bit please ? |
| 21:38.59 | abrotman | Drako60: uhm .. don't forget to ask him if he backed up his important data |
| 21:39.15 | Drako60 | he didn't |
| 21:39.24 | abrotman | Drako60: then . who should he blame? |
| 21:39.26 | takatumi | zbiw: aren't you running udev? |
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| 21:39.57 | jim | emorys: no proxys. deal with it. if you run one, then it gets banned, and the isp gets a nice little note saying when and what IP. Hope that helps... have a nice day |
| 21:40.17 | abrotman | Drako60: drives die .. it's part of owning a computer |
| 21:40.18 | zbiw | i don't know |
| 21:40.25 | eeyore- | Drako60: well, at least the electronics still function :-) dd_rescue, please |
| 21:41.00 | crazy2k | Hello. I've got a grub.conf in /boot/grub on my Ubuntu partition and another one on my Debian partition. How do I tell the system which one it has to use? |
| 21:41.12 | abrotman | eeyore-: i mentioned that .. he can't mount the partitions |
| 21:41.13 | eeyore- | what the heck is safemail anyway? |
| 21:41.30 | Pihti | jim, is the no proxy system just because lamers use them to try to take channels? |
| 21:41.34 | eeyore- | abrotman: you shouldn't have to be able to mount partition if you just dd_rescue the entire disk (or entire partitions) |
| 21:41.51 | eeyore- | abrotman: knoppix comes with dd_rescue |
| 21:41.53 | abrotman | eeyore-: yes .. but what good will those images be ? :) |
| 21:42.02 | eeyore- | abrotman: surprisingly good |
| 21:42.10 | abrotman | eeyore-: he's gone now |
| 21:42.31 | eeyore- | abrotman: there are just a few sectors he can't read ... dd_rescue will just get him nice partition images with a few holes, easily fixed by e2fsck after the fact :-) |
| 21:42.43 | abrotman | eeyore-: did you check his url ? |
| 21:42.57 | eeyore- | abrotman: just four sectors, yes |
| 21:43.11 | abrotman | eeyore-: and those are just the ones he tried to access :) |
| 21:43.31 | abrotman | news sucks |
| 21:43.43 | emorys | eeyore, Nine years of dedicated development yielding the best, safest, most beautifully elegant algorithms in the business is the basis backbone and basis of SAFe-mail. |
| 21:43.46 | eeyore- | abrotman: chances are still good that they'll clump around the same area. you'll see they offset each other by 2 each time |
| 21:43.59 | abrotman | eeyore-: well . if he comes back .. i'll have him talk to you :) |
| 21:44.06 | emorys | pardon |
| 21:44.09 | emorys | i have to go |
| 21:44.25 | eeyore- | abrotman: so yeah, looks like a localized error based on (limited) sampling of errors :-) |
| 21:44.43 | abrotman | eeyore-: he said there were 6 partitions .. he can only mount 1 |
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| 21:44.53 | abrotman | err .. "are" 6 partitions :) |
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| 21:45.34 | outlaw84 | how do you force an application to use a specifik net device if the application doesn't support selecting device? |
| 21:46.01 | ma3x | abrotman, hi |
| 21:46.10 | balzac | simple question - how to i access man pages for a particular utility from the command prompt? |
| 21:46.21 | abrotman | oh .. don't you hi me! |
| 21:46.29 | takatumi | balzac: man man? |
| 21:46.31 | abrotman | balzac: man blah |
| 21:46.34 | balzac | thanks |
| 21:46.34 | arango | is it possible to copy an ac3 stream to ogg ? |
| 21:46.35 | outlaw84 | balzac: man <util> |
| 21:46.40 | abrotman | balzac: man -k <searchterm> |
| 21:46.45 | balzac | thanks |
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| 21:47.23 | jim | balzac: like which one for example? |
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| 21:47.27 | mattfury | hey |
| 21:47.35 | welson | balzac, tkman |
| 21:47.36 | mattfury | is socket 478 celeron? |
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| 21:48.00 | welson | balzac, (gui) |
| 21:48.00 | abrotman | it's more than one thing |
| 21:48.03 | abrotman | mattfury: why? |
| 21:48.03 | eeyore- | outlaw84: you might look into whether that said application allows "binding" to set of addresses (that's typically how you "select a network device") |
| 21:48.04 | cavic | does gzip have a 2GB filesize restriction? |
| 21:48.20 | ma3x | can anybody read me the default fonts from kde control center/ |
| 21:48.22 | ma3x | plz |
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| 21:48.25 | eeyore- | outlaw84: if it doesn't let you bind to specific addresses, you either (a) give up, or (b) fix it in the code |
| 21:48.29 | mattfury | abrotman, because i just d/l'd a amd -kernel :( |
| 21:48.43 | balzac | thanks welson |
| 21:48.56 | abrotman | mattfury: yes .. you said you have an Athlon iirc |
| 21:48.56 | balzac | ok, time to go get fresh air |
| 21:49.03 | jim | ma3x: read the docs, or better, read the source and/or config files |
| 21:49.07 | abrotman | <mattfury> abrotman: sarge, 2.0ghz amd? |
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| 21:49.15 | FieldySnuts | well then. that's a different host it set me to |
| 21:49.16 | eeyore- | mattfury: socket 478 is intel |
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| 21:49.29 | FieldySnuts | should be fun for ban scripts |
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| 21:49.36 | crazy2k | Hello? |
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| 21:49.38 | ma3x | jim, looks like you read a lot. where is the config file? |
| 21:49.43 | FieldySnuts | hi? |
| 21:49.56 | jim | ma3x: on your system |
| 21:49.56 | khaled_240 | hi all |
| 21:49.59 | takatumi | FieldySnuts: with what? |
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| 21:50.04 | i0nz | why does firefox and mozilla keep freezing? |
| 21:50.08 | mattfury | this is crazy how can i get my sysinfo |
| 21:50.17 | FieldySnuts | define sysinfo |
| 21:50.18 | i0nz | what wouild cuase this |
| 21:50.19 | i0nz | ? |
| 21:50.24 | ma3x | jim, what's the name of the config? |
| 21:50.28 | takatumi | mattfury: dmesg, lspci, cpuinfo, hwinfo |
| 21:50.29 | eeyore- | mattfury: how do you know what you have in your car? you look ... same as your computer |
| 21:50.32 | Oryn | i0nz: running sid? |
| 21:50.39 | emorys | folks. i emailed my email provider almost 24 hours ago. |
| 21:50.41 | i0nz | what is sid |
| 21:50.43 | emorys | no response. |
| 21:50.49 | jim | it is a name formed by putting characters one after another |
| 21:50.51 | emorys | what am i to do now? |
| 21:51.04 | Oryn | lol @ jim |
| 21:51.08 | i0nz | Oryn, im on plak |
| 21:51.12 | i0nz | Oryn, im on phlak |
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| 21:51.19 | marccd | What package in debian provides /usr/lib/pkgconfig/xcomposite.pc ? |
| 21:51.20 | Oryn | whats that? |
| 21:51.21 | mattfury | CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz |
| 21:51.22 | ma3x | jim is our big philosopher |
| 21:51.22 | eeyore- | mattfury: how do you know if you got an open diff or limited-slip? you jack up the car and spin the wheels ... get your hand dirty. same as with the computer. open the case, *look* |
| 21:51.29 | takatumi | mattfury: man apt-file |
| 21:51.34 | i0nz | Oryn, is there anything there that would cause it? |
| 21:51.37 | outlaw84 | eeyore-: thanks, It doesn't seam to allow binding to an adress so I'll take (c) comming up with an other solution |
| 21:51.45 | eeyore- | outlaw84: can't |
| 21:51.55 | jim | ma3x: can't you find it yourself? |
| 21:52.04 | eeyore- | outlaw84: if the code only binds to "any" address, then you gotta change it :-) |
| 21:52.10 | ma3x | jim, no idea, if i dont know the name of the config |
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| 21:52.15 | Oryn | i0nz: doggie mozilla?? compiled for wrong libs? |
| 21:52.22 | mattfury | ok enough philosphies |
| 21:52.27 | witch | i0nz: all othere apps are fast and not freezing? |
| 21:52.36 | abrotman | mattfury: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 21:52.38 | i0nz | witch, yea |
| 21:52.39 | abrotman | yay .. problem solved |
| 21:52.45 | jim | then I have a suggestion..... |
| 21:52.51 | i0nz | orchid, whats doggie mozilla? |
| 21:52.52 | jim | determine the name |
| 21:53.00 | outlaw84 | eeyore-: its writen i C++ I am only skilled at Java :/ |
| 21:53.06 | Oryn | i0nz: duff / broken |
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| 21:53.24 | i0nz | Oryn, so do I need to complie one from source? |
| 21:53.27 | crazy2k | Hello. I've got a grub.conf in /boot/grub on my Ubuntu partition and another one on my Debian partition. How do I tell the system which one it has to use? |
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| 21:53.33 | Oryn | i0nz: I roll my own mozilla |
| 21:53.53 | i0nz | Oryn, i dpkg -P mozilla and firefox then apt-get them again and it still does the same thing |
| 21:54.14 | takatumi | crazy2k: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst point it to the right partion. |
| 21:54.20 | ma3x | jim, i did something with that font guide and ruined my firefox view |
| 21:54.20 | Oryn | i0nz: do they freeze instantly? |
| 21:54.29 | eeyore- | outlaw84: grep the code for INADDR_ANY and change it to appropriate address (based on parameter, perhaps?) ... similar code for this should be easy to locate on the web |
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| 21:54.50 | ma3x | although i removed all those fonts and directories from XF86Config, i still can't get my old nice view in firefox |
| 21:54.56 | outlaw84 | eeyore-: Its a dc client that I am trying to reduce transfer speed of... I wanted to try using shaper but it doesn't seam to work... because I dont wanto limit the speed within my own network just towards internet |
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| 21:55.24 | Oryn | i0nz: try running them from a shell and watch for errors |
| 21:55.27 | jim | go over what you did, in detail... for each thing you did, research all possible exact effects it could have upon your system, then determine which if any did in fact happen |
| 21:55.32 | crazy2k | takatumi: But I have two menu.lst. That's what I mean. |
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| 21:55.42 | eeyore- | outlaw84: in that case, if you want to shape traffic, why don't you do it based on protocol/port number? |
| 21:56.39 | jim | I guess the new server's doing that |
| 21:56.46 | eeyore- | FieldySnuts: hmm, must be new feature |
| 21:56.48 | takatumi | crazy2k: what does /boot/grub/device.map say? |
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| 21:56.54 | outlaw84 | eeyore-: every set upp connection gets on a new port exept the connection to the hub |
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| 21:57.37 | crazy2k | takatumi: (hd0) /dev/hda |
| 21:57.52 | ma3x | jim, what new server/ |
| 21:58.21 | outlaw84 | eeyore-: I did a grep for INADDR_ANY and got (1) tcpaddr.sin_addr.s_addr = htonl(INADDR_ANY); (2) sock_addr.sin_addr.s_addr = htonl(INADDR_ANY); |
| 21:58.26 | witch | ma3x: Hyperion instead of Dancer ircd |
| 21:58.38 | takatumi | crazy2k: and where is /boot? |
| 21:58.48 | ma3x | witch, are you greek? |
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| 21:59.02 | crazy2k | takatumi: How do I know that? (I'm a newbie) |
| 21:59.08 | witch | ma3x: no why? |
| 21:59.13 | crazy2k | takatumi: Oh wait, I know. |
| 21:59.15 | ma3x | Hyperion |
| 22:00.13 | witch | Why the hell must I be greek, if the irc server program is named Hyperion? |
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| 22:00.23 | crazy2k | takatumi: No, I don't know. I thought I would find it in fstab but it isn't there. |
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| 22:01.14 | Scorpaen | hey crazy2k haven't i seen you in #gentoo ? |
| 22:02.13 | crazy2k | Scorpaen: Yes, I remember you too. How you doin'? |
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| 22:02.30 | Scorpaen | good, man. got tired of xmms / alsa problems in gentoo, and compiling stuff all the time |
| 22:02.33 | outlaw84 | eeyore-: should I be able to replace INADDR_ANY with an IP? |
| 22:02.35 | Scorpaen | figured i'd give Debian a shot. |
| 22:02.49 | crazy2k | Scorpaen: Oh, heh. I didn't switch. I installed Debian and Ubuntu on my mom's computer. Heh. |
| 22:02.56 | Scorpaen | :) |
| 22:03.06 | takatumi | crazy2k: which menu.lst is being read now? |
| 22:03.11 | Scorpaen | i still got a gentoo server, but debian for the workstation :) |
| 22:03.33 | emorys | Safe-mailTM doesn't require you to fill in any personal information in order to use it. |
| 22:03.38 | streuner | !gentoosmite Scorpaen |
| 22:03.50 | X2 | guys, can you recommend a nice c for linux doc ? if is handy to you, ofc |
| 22:04.01 | crazy2k | takatumi: I'm now on Ubuntu, but I know there's a different one, the one I've seen when I booted Debian. |
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| 22:04.27 | Sarg3 | i'm installing kubuntu |
| 22:04.47 | witch | crazy2k: /boot is in / , if there is no extra partition for it |
| 22:04.56 | Sarg3 | but i prefer installing ubuntu and then install kde |
| 22:05.05 | X2 | devhelp does not help too much |
| 22:05.09 | witch | and where / is depends on what and how you are booting |
| 22:05.10 | streuner | Sarg3: #ubuntu |
| 22:05.17 | takatumi | Sarg3: so why are you announcing it here? |
| 22:05.30 | crazy2k | witch: Yeah, well, then I have two /boot's. Right now the system is using Debian's grub.conf and I want it to use Ubuntu's. |
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| 22:07.16 | takatumi | crazy2k: leave it at debian, will be easier on the way back. |
| 22:07.33 | crazy2k | takatumi: But I need to remove Debian, that's the problem. |
| 22:07.58 | takatumi | crazy2k: then why are you here? ask #ubuntu |
| 22:08.18 | streuner | or just install debian |
| 22:08.18 | crazy2k | takatumi: It's my mother's computer. Don't get mad at me. I would stay with Debian. |
| 22:08.34 | FieldySnuts | which doesn't change the fact you shouldn't be asking us |
| 22:08.36 | Sarg3 | takatumi i don't know :D |
| 22:08.43 | Sarg3 | i have nothing to do |
| 22:08.52 | Sarg3 | it's installing... |
| 22:08.58 | crazy2k | takatumi: I thought I should ask here because it's actually using Debian's grub.conf right now. |
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| 22:09.30 | witch | beside that there should be no difference between ubuntu an debian writing the boot sector - hopefully |
| 22:09.37 | takatumi | crazy2k: it wouldn't be, debian does not use grub.conf |
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| 22:10.23 | occy | Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background. <-- I did /etc/init.d/mysql start [stopped before hand] and I'm getting that error. any ideas? I've googled but haven't found anything helpful. |
| 22:10.34 | Sarg3 | Hydroxide (I=user@debian/developer/Hydroxide) |
| 22:10.36 | Sarg3 | adshudsahudsahudsa |
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| 22:10.44 | Sarg3 | what kind of mask is it? |
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| 22:10.59 | Hydroxide | Sarg3: freenode just changed the way their hostmasks look |
| 22:10.59 | streuner | You must be crazy to think, there is a distro which is even more userfriendly |
| 22:11.00 | Scorpaen | i need ncurses-devel to use make menuconfig but i can't find it wiht apt-get install |
| 22:11.07 | Hydroxide | Sarg3: err, their cloaks |
| 22:11.14 | Hydroxide | Sarg3: it's a standard Debian developer freenode cloak |
| 22:11.15 | Sereal | How do I find a list of my wireless drivers? |
| 22:11.21 | Hydroxide | Sarg3: brb, my IRC client is a bit messed up, reconnecting |
| 22:11.25 | streuner | You can handle Linux or NOT.... |
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| 22:11.29 | Sarg3 | gh |
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| 22:11.39 | kbrooks | DEB! |
| 22:11.40 | rking | Sarg3 = dvorak user. |
| 22:11.41 | nkuttler | Scorpaen: libncurses5-dev |
| 22:11.48 | Scorpaen | thanks |
| 22:11.49 | Sarg3 | Sarg3 = n00b |
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| 22:12.07 | abrotman | duh |
| 22:12.19 | Sarg3 | •rking• what's "dvorak"? |
| 22:12.21 | rking | oh, no, i was wrong, qwerty - i thought the asdf pattern was dvorak |
| 22:12.26 | Sarg3 | fuck to invision... |
| 22:12.28 | Sarg3 | :D |
| 22:12.29 | rking | Sarg3: it's a different way to layout your keys |
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| 22:12.33 | Sarg3 | yes |
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| 22:12.54 | Sarg3 | i'm italian :D |
| 22:12.59 | abrotman | !it |
| 22:12.59 | dpkg | hmm... italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 22:13.15 | Sarg3 | i know :D |
| 22:13.41 | Sereal | How do I find out what verson of the linux kernel i'm running? |
| 22:13.45 | Hydroxide | Sereal: uname -r |
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| 22:14.01 | takatumi | Sereal: use modconf, easier that way or modprobe -l |
| 22:14.09 | turing_ | does anyone have .debs for the patched cyrus sasl2 library? |
| 22:14.09 | Sereal | Thanks |
| 22:14.21 | turing_ | I need the frost patches for crypted passwords integrated intoa deb |
| 22:14.30 | turing_ | I can't believe I've had trouble finding this, actually ;) |
| 22:14.35 | turing_ | and http://frost.ath.cx/software/cyrus-sasl-patches is down :( |
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| 22:15.28 | streuner | !tell turing_ about search |
| 22:16.08 | streuner | postfix, cyrus? |
| 22:16.14 | abrotman | ask #cyrus ? |
| 22:16.23 | streuner | or #postfix |
| 22:16.23 | abrotman | oh |
| 22:16.26 | abrotman | wait .... |
| 22:16.28 | turing_ | streuner |
| 22:16.33 | abrotman | if the site is down .. find a mirror |
| 22:16.35 | abrotman | !mg |
| 22:16.35 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or maint-guide.en.html in sarge/sid). 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, it is also the shorthand for Madagascar |
| 22:16.36 | abrotman | !nm |
| 22:16.36 | dpkg | well, nm is New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. And also nevermind, or a program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 22:16.37 | streuner | turing_: ? |
| 22:16.39 | turing_ | thanks |
| 22:16.41 | turing_ | heh |
| 22:16.45 | abrotman | and read those |
| 22:16.54 | Sarg3 | can i show my next new site? |
| 22:17.02 | Sarg3 | i'm working... |
| 22:17.04 | turing_ | abrotman: there are no mirrors that I can find |
| 22:17.11 | turing_ | I've been looking |
| 22:17.13 | FieldySnuts | we'd prefer not to be spammed, thanks though |
| 22:17.17 | turing_ | also I have not been able to find a patched deb |
| 22:17.18 | abrotman | then you have to ask #cyrus .. or something |
| 22:17.31 | turing_ | I'm asking here if anyone knows |
| 22:17.48 | streuner | #cyrus 21 Cyrus IMAP and SASL: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/ | http://asg.web.cmu.edu/twiki/bin/view/Cyrus/WebHome | http://nakedape.cc/info/Cyrus-IMAP-HOWTO/quickstart-fedora.html |
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| 22:18.01 | takatumi | turing_: http://www.waybackmachine.org/ :P |
| 22:18.35 | turing_ | Results: 1 through 1 of 0 (0.482 secs) |
| 22:18.36 | turing_ | :P |
| 22:18.39 | mith | turing_: why not apt-get source cyrus-sasl; (or whatever it's called) apply teh patch and rebuild? |
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| 22:18.54 | turing_ | mith: would be great: I don't have the patch |
| 22:19.02 | turing_ | and I can't find it ;( frost is down.. |
| 22:19.12 | turing_ | and #cyrus doesn't respond ;) |
| 22:19.15 | mith | turing_: i'm sure it's mirrored somewhere on google or in a mailing list archive somewhere. |
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| 22:19.17 | turing_ | or I should say "no one there" does |
| 22:19.20 | turing_ | mith: so was I |
| 22:19.25 | turing_ | until I searched |
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| 22:19.35 | streuner | turing_: have a little patient |
| 22:19.41 | mith | turing_: what's the patch do exactly? |
| 22:19.55 | turing_ | mith: it patches libsasl2 to understand crypted passwords |
| 22:20.01 | mith | crypted how? |
| 22:20.07 | abrotman | !moo |
| 22:20.07 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939, or cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
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| 22:20.19 | turing_ | mysql crupt |
| 22:20.23 | turing_ | er, crypt, heh |
| 22:20.25 | mith | turing_: oh, you mean in the sasl.users or whatever file? |
| 22:20.30 | FieldySnuts | ~start a world war |
| 22:20.30 | apt | Pakistan will get turned into a sheet of glass by Iran! |
| 22:20.35 | turing_ | mith: no when you are storing user info in mysql |
| 22:20.39 | turing_ | for authdaemond |
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| 22:20.51 | takatumi | abrotman: http://gpoppy.org/2005-04-01-011442_1024x768_scrot.png |
| 22:20.54 | saboteur | ooh |
| 22:20.58 | saboteur | that would be useful |
| 22:21.04 | turing_ | I _wish_ I could get postfix just to use authdaemond |
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| 22:21.10 | mith | I just use qmail+vpopmail+sasl patch, vpopmail has no problems storing encrypted passwords. :) |
| 22:21.15 | turing_ | but all of my feeble attempts have failed |
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| 22:21.21 | abrotman | takatumi: do it again with bork! |
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| 22:21.27 | turing_ | mith but no equiv for postfixadmin exists for qmail |
| 22:21.32 | hiperg | good evening |
| 22:21.33 | saboteur | when i upgraded from woody to sarge, i went from a hacked up pwcheck to sasl's mysql support and it was from crypt to plain |
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| 22:21.35 | turing_ | otherwise I would be using it ;) |
| 22:21.36 | saboteur | :( |
| 22:21.38 | abrotman | !aptitude moo |
| 22:21.38 | dpkg | hmm... aptitude moo is a hidden thingy... try aptitude moo with -v option, or with -vv or -vvv and so on... ;) |
| 22:21.41 | hiperg | i have some problem, i need some help |
| 22:21.49 | mith | turing_: umm, qmailadmin/vqadmin are the best web-based mail admin peices of software I've ever used. :) |
| 22:21.52 | turing_ | saboteur: yeah |
| 22:22.03 | turing_ | vqadmin is ok but there is no delegation |
| 22:22.09 | turing_ | anyway I'm knee deep in postfix |
| 22:22.18 | turing_ | and what's pissing me off is I have another functional postfix install |
| 22:22.19 | abrotman | #postfix ? |
| 22:22.19 | hiperg | i have a new line in my pppoe config: plugin rp-pppoe.so eth2 |
| 22:22.23 | turing_ | but I didn't keep a local copy of the patch |
| 22:22.25 | abrotman | turing_: you're in the wrong channel |
| 22:22.26 | hiperg | if i delete it i cannot connect |
| 22:22.27 | abrotman | i think |
| 22:22.28 | turing_ | abrotman: not much use |
| 22:22.36 | abrotman | turing_: guess what .. not everyone here uses postfix |
| 22:22.38 | mith | turing_: you use qmailadmin for the user facing side and vqadmin for the admins. |
| 22:22.39 | saboteur | this is a sasl issue isn't it? |
| 22:22.40 | hiperg | since i have it in my config i cannot surf pages |
| 22:22.43 | turing_ | abrotman: you appear to be bored or something |
| 22:22.44 | saboteur | its not really a postfix issue |
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| 22:22.49 | hiperg | please...:( |
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| 22:23.09 | abrotman | turing_: you appear to be flooding the channel with postfix/cyrus issues .. that aren't related to debian :) |
| 22:23.11 | turing_ | bye |
| 22:23.12 | RichiH | do i have to do anything fancy apart from what is described on http://kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40 in order to install a kdm theme? |
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| 22:23.17 | abrotman | *sniff* |
| 22:23.18 | mith | turing_: why not just take the source on the working machine and diff it to the original and get your patch then? |
| 22:23.22 | RichiH | oi abrotman |
| 22:23.27 | sgeigerbot | Which webcam-producing company has the best reputation for working with the linux community? |
| 22:23.34 | abrotman | RichiH: help me .. i'm sad .. some sad wanker ignored me! |
| 22:23.34 | FieldySnuts | none |
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| 22:23.46 | saboteur | :) |
| 22:23.51 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: !date him ! |
| 22:23.53 | Midwarrior | I NEED help PLEASE |
| 22:23.57 | FieldySnuts | stfu Midwarrior |
| 22:23.57 | abrotman | !date turing_ |
| 22:23.59 | RichiH | abrotman: aw, gee, poor you |
| 22:24.01 | HiPerG | who know what is it? plugin rp-pppoe.so eth2 |
| 22:24.17 | abrotman | RichiH: i know .. it's a rough life .. |
| 22:24.23 | RichiH | FieldySnuts: randnick is eeevil and you know it |
| 22:24.27 | shingouz | !tell Midwarrior about ask |
| 22:24.30 | Midwarrior | what driver do i pick for nVidia on the installer for X server?????? |
| 22:24.31 | abrotman | Midwarrior: you're not asking in the correct manner |
| 22:24.32 | FieldySnuts | Midwarrior: if you'd like to ask your question without YELLING AT US, we may answer. otherwise, we might just not know, or migh tno tcare |
| 22:24.36 | RichiH | sgeigerbot: if you find out, tell me |
| 22:24.37 | abrotman | !tell Midwarrior about ep |
| 22:24.41 | abrotman | !tell Midwarrior about nvidia one liner |
| 22:24.43 | FieldySnuts | eh too many punctuation repeats, screw it, ignore |
| 22:24.45 | gravity | Midwarrior: nv |
| 22:24.51 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: huh |
| 22:24.51 | HiPerG | what is it? plugin rp-pppoe.so eth2 |
| 22:24.52 | abrotman | RichiH: you want to see sgeigerbot ? |
| 22:24.56 | RichiH | my experiences with logitech were hard, at best |
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| 22:25.04 | gravity | !tell Sarg3 about xorg sarge |
| 22:25.09 | shingouz | Midwarrior: vesa should work during the install. worry about the full setup when the system is actually up and running |
| 22:25.17 | gravity | Sarg3: Check what the dpkg bot just told you |
| 22:25.23 | FieldySnuts | they're webcams, typically extremely low quality windows only devices, i wouldn't dare count on them working in linux, especially officially |
| 22:25.23 | RichiH | abrotman: why not, i have not eaten recently, either |
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| 22:25.27 | gravity | Sarg3: It's how to get the xorg backports specially for sarge |
| 22:25.28 | abrotman | he just got told a bunch of stuff |
| 22:25.32 | abrotman | RichiH: you should rectify that |
| 22:25.41 | HiPerG | i have to ask again: what is it? plugin rp-pppoe.so eth2 |
| 22:25.48 | lluka | hey does anyone know how to set an ati card to "agp mode" ? |
| 22:25.50 | abrotman | gravity: any idea on time frame for etch/xorg ? |
| 22:25.52 | Sarg3 | mnhmh |
| 22:26.02 | Sarg3 | but that's unofficial |
| 22:26.06 | gravity | abrotman: Hopefully -5, which I'll upload as soon as its built, will hit testing in the normal time frame |
| 22:26.10 | RichiH | abrotman: i was about to do the same |
| 22:26.12 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: did you find my porn site? |
| 22:26.14 | gravity | Sarg3: That's more official than anything else you'll get for sarge |
| 22:26.24 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: yeah .. it was the same one with my mom's porn |
| 22:26.27 | gravity | Sarg3: That is a backport of the version in unstable for sarge |
| 22:26.42 | gravity | Sarg3: If you compile it yourself, you're just asking for it |
| 22:26.49 | gravity | In addition to spending a stupid amount of time doing so |
| 22:26.53 | abrotman | RichiH: did you eat yet? |
| 22:26.54 | sgeigerbot | RichiH: I would be satisfied if new webcam hardware were supported reasonably well...but you can't even ask for that! |
| 22:26.57 | abrotman | RichiH: isn't it .. like .. 2am there ? |
| 22:27.11 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: that asswipe? |
| 22:27.19 | arango | how can I convert an ac3 to ogg with six channels ? |
| 22:27.23 | shingouz | Midwarrior: do not msg me |
| 22:27.24 | RichiH | abrotman: i meant i could not puke if i saw his pic |
| 22:27.30 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: you'd do her too ! |
| 22:27.33 | RichiH | abrotman: i ate at 1900 |
| 22:27.40 | RichiH | abrotman: and it's 0027 local |
| 22:27.47 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: what's her page on hotornot.com ? |
| 22:27.49 | abrotman | RichiH: i thought you were .. german-esque time |
| 22:27.51 | RichiH | sgeigerbot: indeed. they all suck |
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| 22:27.57 | RichiH | abrotman: i am |
| 22:27.57 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: i think she's #1 rated |
| 22:27.58 | FieldySnuts | yes they do |
| 22:28.02 | RichiH | abrotman: it's 0027 in germany |
| 22:28.10 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: No, that's my grandma. |
| 22:28.15 | abrotman | RichiH: you should move to philly so you can eat at a normal time :) |
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| 22:28.21 | RichiH | abrotman: pft |
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| 22:28.46 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: oh ok |
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| 22:28.48 | lluka | has anyone got an ati radeon card to work ? |
| 22:28.52 | ippio | anyone has ACCESS RUNNER ADSL USB MODEM installed? |
| 22:29.03 | abrotman | I DO NOT! |
| 22:29.17 | Midwarrior | I have a problem with video card driver installing; I'm running the newest stable Debian version. I expected it to do server hosting. and i want my video card to work |
| 22:29.18 | takatumi | lluka: should work reasonably well with xorg. |
| 22:29.19 | abrotman | lluka: /msg dpkg ati debs |
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| 22:29.40 | lluka | i've already installed the drivers |
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| 22:29.42 | abrotman | Midwarrior: servers don't run X ... problem solved .. go home .. get a pizza .. and some beer |
| 22:29.45 | lluka | but it thinks its a pci card |
| 22:29.45 | lluka | :/ |
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| 22:29.58 | abrotman | so you want your pci card to do agp ? |
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| 22:30.21 | Midwarrior | man will people ever stop being assholes??? |
| 22:30.22 | thingfish | abrotman: if you had lobster along the way, you can be forgiven. |
| 22:30.44 | abrotman | thingfish: i had .. none of the normal stuff from new england .. but i'm quite capable of making lobster myself |
| 22:30.47 | shingouz | ippio: if you have even the slightest choice, get yourself something that actually connects with ethernet instead of usb. usb adsl is a serious pain in the ass an not worth the effort |
| 22:30.53 | thingfish | no, they will not. |
| 22:31.06 | abrotman | thingfish: i really wanted chowder |
| 22:31.12 | ippio | shingouz..i've already installed it. it works only that i don't how can i configure it |
| 22:31.18 | apt-get`moo | gh |
| 22:31.26 | abrotman | !sing g4lt |
| 22:31.26 | dpkg | sometimes he p4rks in h4ndic4pped sp4ces, while h4ndic4pped people m4ke h4ndic4pped f4ces, g4lt's 4n 4ssshoooole... |
| 22:31.35 | thingfish | abrotman: well you could probably handle chowder then, it's not that complicated. |
| 22:31.39 | shingouz | ippio: huh? what does it show up as? |
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| 22:31.45 | abrotman | thingfish: i certainly could ... |
| 22:31.59 | streuner | hm |
| 22:31.59 | thingfish | clams, cream, milk, potatoes, parsley... |
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| 22:32.02 | abrotman | thingfish: but lobster is far easier .. especially since i don't screw it up with melted butter |
| 22:32.10 | ippio | shingouz: when i boot my pc it wait until it connect ... but i don't how isert username and password |
| 22:32.17 | madclicker | ahoy, experiencing problems with grub "sarge instaaller" official on Adaptec 2120S "hardware raid". Grub reports " Running 'grub-instaall --recheck --no-floppy "(hd0)" failed |
| 22:32.19 | FieldySnuts | engrish? |
| 22:32.20 | jrr | anyone know of an editor that can hide the color formatting characters? |
| 22:32.21 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:32.26 | shingouz | ippio: the modem shows up as what? ifconfig -a |
| 22:32.44 | abrotman | jrr: nvi |
| 22:32.50 | abrotman | ed |
| 22:32.51 | thingfish | I agree abrotman, I don't really like all that butter with lobster. |
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| 22:33.03 | abrotman | thingfish: i don't like butter much with any seafood :) |
| 22:33.07 | moya | is it legal to use a proxied rewriterule that include a external program rewritemap ? |
| 22:33.12 | abrotman | seafood tastes so good on its own |
| 22:33.14 | moya | apachectl doesn't complain but the external program is never executed |
| 22:33.16 | thingfish | maybe a little spritz of lemon, but otherwise I'm just fine with naked lobster meat. |
| 22:33.24 | shingouz | smoked salmon.. yum |
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| 22:33.27 | FabParma | How can i uninstall a package(qtparted) ? |
| 22:33.27 | thingfish | exactly |
| 22:33.33 | abrotman | ew .. no lemon .. lemon bad .. butter bad .. old bay .. so fucking wrong |
| 22:33.43 | shingouz | FabParma: apt-get remove package |
| 22:33.44 | abrotman | FabParma: man apt-get |
| 22:33.46 | abrotman | FabParma: man dpkg |
| 22:34.05 | thingfish | eww yes, old bay is nasty on anything but boiled shrimp. |
| 22:34.12 | shingouz | FabParma: man aptitude |
| 22:34.15 | madclicker | is there a channel for debian installer? |
| 22:34.17 | abrotman | no . old bay .. wrong .. everywhere! ..w rong wrong wrong |
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| 22:34.25 | streuner | madclicker: why? |
| 22:34.27 | abrotman | madclicker: is it hardware or software raid ? |
| 22:34.28 | thingfish | although my folks fix crabs with old bay, and they're tasty as hell. |
| 22:34.35 | streuner | abrotman: haha |
| 22:34.40 | madclicker | abrotman: hardware |
| 22:34.45 | abrotman | streuner: but i'm not joking :) |
| 22:34.48 | FabParma | abrotman: i dont knew was possible by "apt" , thank you |
| 22:34.49 | abrotman | wait .. kill the :) |
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| 22:35.05 | abrotman | madclicker: maybe see if #grub has an idea ? |
| 22:35.15 | madclicker | abrotman: thx |
| 22:35.17 | streuner | madclicker: nothing in ig? |
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| 22:35.31 | streuner | !ig |
| 22:35.31 | dpkg | somebody said ig was for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
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| 22:35.43 | madclicker | streuner: i missed that |
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| 22:36.12 | ma3x | my xfonts got ugly. if i reinstall kde would that renew it? |
| 22:36.25 | mwilson | ma3x: Why would it? |
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| 22:36.37 | ma3x | mwilson, because of reinstalling |
| 22:36.41 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
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| 22:36.54 | beeto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:37.03 | mwilson | ma3x: Again, why would reinstalling change anything? |
| 22:37.14 | abrotman | mwilson: think .. *windows* :) |
| 22:37.33 | kaplanfx | Is there a console based news reader that will handle binaries? Google refuses to give me a good answer. |
| 22:37.43 | ma3x | mwilson, so what do you suggest instead of reinstalling? |
| 22:37.44 | kaplanfx | specificaly yenc |
| 22:37.45 | dondelelcaro | beeto: you mean add line numbers? There's a code environment for that, iirc. |
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| 22:37.46 | abrotman | tin ? |
| 22:37.51 | dondelelcaro | beeto: try asking in #latex |
| 22:38.01 | gravity | ma3x: What did you change to make your xfonts ugly? |
| 22:38.01 | abrotman | kaplanfx: try tin .. or maybe slrn ? |
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| 22:38.08 | ma3x | in the first place i don't understand: when i change the fonts directories in xfree config, it still reads the removed directories |
| 22:38.14 | kaplanfx | abrotman: ok, I'll check those out, thanks |
| 22:38.15 | streuner | madclicker: well, it seems to me ig mention only software-RAID ... |
| 22:38.15 | ma3x | gravity, i installed some new |
| 22:38.31 | mwilson | kaplanfx: You really do have to load the browser when you plan on looking things up in Google. |
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| 22:38.42 | gravity | some new...? |
| 22:38.50 | ma3x | msttcore or something like that |
| 22:38.58 | ma3x | i was following the fonts guide |
| 22:38.58 | abrotman | gravity: fonts |
| 22:39.02 | mwilson | gravity: He's been copying fonts around randomly since last night. |
| 22:39.11 | ma3x | that's right |
| 22:39.13 | gravity | ah |
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| 22:39.14 | abrotman | my job this evening will be to de-n00bie vague statements :) |
| 22:39.17 | thingfish | I bet all kinds of nasty things go on in #latex. |
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| 22:39.20 | madclicker | streuner: i installed mandrake 9.0 a few years ago without any problems with lilo on the same hardware, you mean to tell debian is not capable to install? |
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| 22:39.30 | ma3x | abrotman, now you write some strange characters |
| 22:39.37 | mwilson | gravity: Running ttmkfdir here, mkfontalias there, etc, etc |
| 22:39.39 | kurt__ak | I have pkg B and C that are dependent on pkg A, but I want to start compiling my program A from cvs, so how can i have all this still work together? b/c if i try to uninstall pkg A, dpkg complains about the dependencies, and now it makes me think if i force out A, will B and C still work? |
| 22:39.39 | ma3x | those n00 look like blinking eyes |
| 22:39.40 | abrotman | ma3x: i like snoopy and woodstock |
| 22:39.42 | thingfish | or is that #shrink-tubing... |
| 22:39.47 | e2e | Hi, i've a problem "title" fonts with a few apps... I can't explain the problem clearly, so here is two screenshot: 85.96.215.59/mplayer.jpg 85.96.215.59/gabber.jpg |
| 22:39.47 | streuner | madclicker: no |
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| 22:39.50 | ma3x | snoopy |
| 22:39.56 | ma3x | abrotman, you're snoopy |
| 22:40.07 | abrotman | ma3x: i'm not snoopy ... |
| 22:40.12 | gravity | mwilson: Ah, fun |
| 22:40.18 | abrotman | if i could be a comic book character .. i'd choose .. DANGERMOUSE! |
| 22:40.22 | ma3x | mwilson, this is not true, i haven't run ttmkfdir, or mkfontalias |
| 22:40.24 | abrotman | err cartoon character |
| 22:40.27 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I think you should just stick to trying to get your head out of your ass. One thing at a time. |
| 22:40.27 | IsaacHaze | thingfish: ...with a hairdryer |
| 22:40.27 | dondelelcaro | kurt__ak: so build .debs from CVS. |
| 22:40.33 | ma3x | mwilson, maybe when i installed with apt-get that has been done automatically |
| 22:40.35 | mwilson | gravity: For him, apparently. Gods only know what he's broken. |
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| 22:40.41 | thingfish | LineOf7s: I predict it will only last as long as abrotman's nightly drinking session. |
| 22:40.44 | streuner | madclicker: What's the model of the raid-controller? |
| 22:40.50 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: if it doesn't affect my driving .. why bother |
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| 22:40.59 | shingouz | abrotman: i'd prolly qualify for taz |
| 22:41.00 | kaplanfx | mwilson: hmm /msg google doesn't work? |
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| 22:41.06 | kaplanfx | heh j/k |
| 22:41.06 | madclicker | streuner: Adaptec RAID 2120S |
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| 22:41.10 | thingfish | hehe IsaacHaze |
| 22:41.12 | LineOf7s | thing: That'll save me some time then. |
| 22:41.18 | abrotman | shingouz: not who would you be llike .. which would you choose to be |
| 22:41.23 | tdela- | i am using a usb mouse, which device is it for configuring X? |
| 22:41.26 | mwilson | gravity: No -5 yet, huh? |
| 22:41.26 | madclicker | streuner: the installation went ok, but grub is dead |
| 22:41.31 | kurt__ak | dondelelcaro: so i dont need to uninstall the package in question first in order to do that? |
| 22:41.34 | turing_ | yo, anyone know the dkpg-* build tools? |
| 22:41.43 | gravity | mwilson: I'm going to build it tonight, but I'm waiting on an arch |
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| 22:41.44 | abrotman | !tell tdela- about usbmouse |
| 22:41.48 | Jimmy-HPC | anyone know anything about FAI installations? I keep getting an error that says /tmp/disk_var.sh was not found and don't know why... |
| 22:41.51 | gravity | mwilson: It should be ready to go though |
| 22:41.52 | turing_ | trying to reconfigure libsasl2 ;) |
| 22:41.59 | shingouz | abrotman: hm. /me tries to think but is short on caffeine |
| 22:42.04 | tdela- | thanks |
| 22:42.06 | abrotman | shingouz: hehe |
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| 22:42.25 | mwilson | gravity: Should I let this one install? |
| 22:42.25 | e2e | The menu and title fonts doesn't appear, i couldn't find what could be the problem. This happens only a few application, like xmms, gabber, xchm, mplayer |
| 22:42.31 | jan_ | Hi, guys, i have a logrotate question: http://rafb.net/paste/results/uE2fzt88.html lograted creates logname.1.1.1.1... and ofcourse i dont want that |
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| 22:42.55 | LineOf7s | Loathe as I am to be one of those people that turn up out of nowhere and dump their problems on the channel, here I go: |
| 22:43.04 | abrotman | LineOf7s: wait! |
| 22:43.10 | LineOf7s | D'oh |
| 22:43.16 | abrotman | LineOf7s: ok .. go |
| 22:43.17 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:43.19 | IsaacHaze | =] |
| 22:43.21 | LineOf7s | Cool. ;o) |
| 22:43.25 | ma3x | mwilson, help me, i'll ya? |
| 22:43.31 | ma3x | abrotman, 00 |
| 22:43.52 | mwilson | ma3x: With what? I have no idea what you've done to the box. |
| 22:43.55 | LineOf7s | With a number of diff UPS-monitoring thingies installed on the Debian installation I inherited, how can I determine which one is the one that's currently in use? And there is one - I've seen it work... |
| 22:43.59 | abrotman | jan_: for starters .. rotate 1 will only give you one back up |
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| 22:44.16 | ma3x | mwilson, i want to have only the default fonts (like when i fresh isntalled sarge) |
| 22:44.24 | abrotman | LineOf7s: ps aux ? .. see anything running ? .. like apccd or upsd .. or whatever it was |
| 22:44.53 | mwilson | ma3x: Well, then you'd better start undoing whatever you've done. |
| 22:45.00 | ddfire | hi kde give me this error evry time i move the mouse "mime type lost application/octet-stream" |
| 22:45.09 | ma3x | mwilson, I can't. I don't know how!? |
| 22:45.17 | sgeigerbot | jan_: Note: /var/log/apache2/* means "every file in the /var/log/apache2/ directory. You probably wanted /var/log/apache2/*.log |
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| 22:45.40 | LineOf7s | <ding><ding><ding> We have a winner. Thankyou abrot :o) Powstatd is the culprit. |
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| 22:46.12 | abrotman | mwilson: birds? |
| 22:46.16 | sgeigerbot | mwilson: hiya |
| 22:46.18 | Scorpaen | im trying to configure my own kernel - when i execute make, i get this: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'. Stop. |
| 22:46.20 | abrotman | LineOf7s: nickcompete is GOOD! |
| 22:46.25 | abrotman | complete is too |
| 22:46.53 | takatumi | !qotd 113 |
| 22:46.59 | ma3x | ok at least tell me where can i read about the fonts |
| 22:47.00 | LineOf7s | I'm an abbreviator. It's a failing of mine. :o) |
| 22:47.00 | takatumi | :( |
| 22:47.04 | ma3x | setting up/installing/configuring |
| 22:47.04 | gravity | mwilson: I think it'll be a good bet. The big thing is that gcc has been fixed |
| 22:47.10 | ma3x | where is the debian official help? |
| 22:47.13 | abrotman | !qotd114 |
| 22:47.13 | dpkg | i guess qotd114 is <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 22:47.15 | ddfire | can someone help me??? |
| 22:47.18 | abrotman | takatumi: that one >? |
| 22:47.18 | gravity | mwilson: Although if you have an i810 I'd say wait it out |
| 22:47.39 | streuner | madclicker: sounds like a bug (installer), try also #debian-boot |
| 22:47.41 | takatumi | abrotman: no 113, related to your nick complete. used to be. |
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| 22:47.53 | mwilson | gravity: Several, but none that I'm running Debian on. One that I've run Ubuntu on, though, and 810 seems to work there. |
| 22:48.08 | abrotman | takatumi: oh .. unsure .. start again .. at 1 :) |
| 22:48.14 | gravity | mwilson: Yeah, it works for some people but not others. The upstream driver is crap. |
| 22:48.26 | madclicker | streuner: thanks i will, am trying to chroot to target. Hope ill be able to doit manually |
| 22:48.29 | gravity | mwilson: We need to pull it from HEAD or someone's forked driver. I'm not sure which yet. |
| 22:48.30 | takatumi | abrotman: no, no it works qotd113, I added a space. |
| 22:48.48 | sgeigerbot | jan_: You can also use prerotate to run a command to save your log files. I think there's probably another way to do this, though. I susupect that you can also save all log files by tweaking the "rotate" parameter, too. I'm checking on that. |
| 22:48.51 | abrotman | !qotd113 |
| 22:48.51 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd113 is greycat|home | TummyAcid: TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB!!! Tab is your friend! Use the tab key! |
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| 22:49.16 | mwilson | gravity: <shrug> It was just one of those "let's see if Ubuntu is still crap... yeah, it's still crap" kind of things... normally that box runs oBSD. |
| 22:49.22 | gravity | Ah |
| 22:49.23 | takatumi | nickcomplete -> tab, get it? o_O |
| 22:49.42 | mwilson | gravity: So if it works, or not... <shrug> |
| 22:50.11 | sgeigerbot | jan_: use "olddir <directory>" to save all of your old logs. |
| 22:50.22 | gravity | mwilson: Well, I have a lot more faith in -5. A few drivers need backports, but other than that we've largely been reduced to fixing things like typos, so it's probably fairly solid for most people. |
| 22:50.25 | takatumi | gravity: I'm still running the ubuntu xorg debs, waiting for -5 to try it fresh. :) |
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| 22:50.35 | gravity | takatumi: Why not -4? |
| 22:50.47 | gravity | takatumi: You know the Debian ones are derived from Ubuntu's |
| 22:50.52 | mwilson | gravity: I read d-x... there've been a lot of "typos". |
| 22:50.52 | sgeigerbot | jan_: did you see what I wrote? |
| 22:51.04 | gravity | mwilson: Yeah... |
| 22:51.15 | jan_ | err sorry, was afk for a min |
| 22:51.41 | jan_ | sgeigerbot: i'll test it |
| 22:51.42 | jan_ | hang on |
| 22:51.46 | takatumi | gravity: I know, but it's all set to my liking, so thought I would start from -5, since it'll be out soon, will wait a few more days. :) |
| 22:52.02 | gravity | takatumi: Sounds good. Let me know if you have any problems. |
| 22:52.08 | sgeigerbot | It, by god--that's it! The difference between gravy and gravity. |
| 22:52.17 | jan_ | sgeigerbot: but the main problem is the uncompressed .1 stuff :) |
| 22:52.17 | abrotman | can i be dangermouse? |
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| 22:52.34 | takatumi | gravity: sure, xorg is the only thing that gives my radeon IGP340 DRI, so it's high on my list. |
| 22:52.44 | sgeigerbot | jan_: well, change the /var/apache2/ line, as I mentioned above. |
| 22:52.53 | thingfish | gravity is also without calories. |
| 22:53.12 | gravity | takatumi: I have the exact same chip |
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| 22:53.17 | jan_ | sgeigerbot: hmm, you could be right, so i should combine it wilth the olddir thingie |
| 22:53.22 | gravity | takatumi: And that's the exact reason why I pushed to get it in to Debian myself :-) |
| 22:53.27 | jan_ | logs dont have a .log extention |
| 22:53.30 | gravity | takatumi: DRI works great here for me :-) |
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| 22:53.32 | takatumi | gravity: \o/ |
| 22:53.37 | ma3x | jan_, are you jim? |
| 22:53.46 | jan_ | no i'm not |
| 22:53.47 | jan_ | i'm jan |
| 22:53.48 | jan_ | =) |
| 22:53.52 | sgeigerbot | jan_: Change your apache config so that log files do end with log...then you won't have a problem. |
| 22:53.52 | abrotman | jim: are you jan_? |
| 22:54.13 | jan_ | sgeigerbot: thats about euhm, 300 vhosts =) |
| 22:54.13 | sgeigerbot | jan_: you realize you have two problems. Solve them one at a time. |
| 22:54.45 | sgeigerbot | jan_: It sure is good that you took the time to learn sed or a language like python...otherwise you'd have to edit those by hand. |
| 22:54.50 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 22:54.53 | jan_ | sgeigerbot: i'll just remove the .* logs, an create a oldlog dir |
| 22:54.59 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: you're so lazy :) |
| 22:55.02 | jan_ | perl ! |
| 22:55.09 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: thank you. |
| 22:55.18 | abrotman | eww .. no perl .. only weirdos like dondelelcaro use perl :) |
| 22:55.29 | jan_ | lol :) |
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| 22:57.09 | gdog | How can I tell my system to downgrade to stable from testing, I changed my sources.list to say stable, but it's not downgrading the packages. |
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| 22:57.34 | jan_ | -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long |
| 22:57.34 | stew | gdog: you can't, you'd have to reinstall |
| 22:57.42 | jan_ | thats what i really hate, now i have to write a for loop |
| 22:57.44 | stew | jan_: use xargs |
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| 22:57.47 | gdog | stew: doh. Are other people having problems with GCC 4.x? |
| 22:58.02 | stew | gdog: probably, check the bts |
| 22:58.02 | gdog | Is anyone in here having problems with gcc 4.x? |
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| 22:58.09 | jan_ | stew: i think xargs will give me the same thing |
| 22:58.12 | gdog | stew: bts? |
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| 22:58.21 | stew | jan_: no, this is exactly what xargs was built for |
| 22:58.28 | gdog | stew: is there an apt information bot here? |
| 22:58.36 | stew | gdog: /msg dpkg bts |
| 22:58.58 | gdog | oh well, I guess I'll re-install my system... |
| 22:59.05 | FieldySnuts | ~troll gdog |
| 22:59.05 | apt | ACTION hereby declares gdog a troll |
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| 22:59.10 | welson | jan_, for i in a b c d; do rm $i; done :) |
| 22:59.33 | jan_ | welson: hey, i really know how to write a for lus you know |
| 22:59.36 | jan_ | :) |
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| 22:59.45 | jan_ | stew: hm, i see |
| 23:00.02 | gdog | Why did FieldySnuts just declare me a troll? |
| 23:00.10 | welson | jan_, xargs works great with the find cmd |
| 23:00.18 | gravity | xargs is my hero |
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| 23:00.45 | gdog | ~troll FieldySnuts |
| 23:00.46 | apt | ACTION hereby declares FieldySnuts a troll |
| 23:00.50 | thingfish | gdog: the acid he took put him on a bummer trip. |
| 23:00.56 | gdog | thingfish: okay |
| 23:01.02 | jan_ | find . -name '*1' | xargs rm |
| 23:01.04 | jan_ | xargs: rm: Argument list too long |
| 23:01.05 | abrotman | !lart IBM/Lenovo |
| 23:01.06 | jan_ | hmm |
| 23:01.15 | welson | jan_, -type f |
| 23:01.19 | Agrajag- | gday. im trying to load the lirc_gpio module from the lirc-modules-source package after compiling it. i get "card type 0x71, id 0x11822" and "TV card type 0x71 not supported". i have 3 bttv based cards. i have an idea it's looking at the wrong one, as dmesg tells me the 3rd card is "bttv2: detected: Twinhan VisionPlus DVB-T [card=113], PCI subsystem ID is |
| 23:01.23 | FieldySnuts | man xargs, look at the n flag |
| 23:01.30 | jan_ | welson: euh .. it's the same |
| 23:01.37 | stew | shouldn't have to, xargs should split it into multiple commands |
| 23:01.38 | welson | jan_, doing that will recursive do it down subdirectory |
| 23:01.39 | Agrajag- | whoops. next (important) part of that is "1822:0001" |
| 23:01.41 | FieldySnuts | lame, gdog msgs me and immediately quites |
| 23:01.47 | welson | jan_, euh not! |
| 23:02.17 | welson | jan_, man find -- echo first to be sure then apply it.. |
| 23:02.27 | Agrajag- | now i dont know if it's coincidence, but the id in "card type 0x71, id 0x11822" looks to me like it's looking at that bttv2 card, when i want it to look at the bttv1 card |
| 23:02.44 | Agrajag- | anyone know if it's possible to specify to the lirc_gpio module which card to try? |
| 23:02.54 | jan_ | welson: the -name thing will fix the problem you're thinkging about |
| 23:02.59 | jan_ | in my case that is |
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| 23:03.13 | jan_ | if you have a directory with a 1 in, you have a problem :) |
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| 23:03.15 | welson | jan_, what ever, go ahead and do it and do it like that everytime then |
| 23:03.26 | ma3x | damn! |
| 23:03.28 | ma3x | ive spent my whole life on these fonts |
| 23:03.38 | jan_ | welson: it's already dont, thanks for your help =:) |
| 23:03.47 | ma3x | if you do not tell me how to restore back my original fonts, im gonna remove x-window-system-core |
| 23:03.47 | welson | tsk |
| 23:03.53 | stew | ma3x: /msg dpkg font guide |
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| 23:04.01 | ma3x | stew: that actually screwed me! |
| 23:04.03 | gravity | ma3x: Why? |
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| 23:04.14 | Borg^Queen | hey people there was supposed to be some fix released today, was it? |
| 23:04.20 | ma3x | because it pissed me off |
| 23:04.20 | gravity | ma3x: First, try purging the font packages you installed... |
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| 23:04.26 | ma3x | it brought me some windows fonts |
| 23:04.32 | ma3x | and it overwrote the default fonts probably |
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| 23:04.38 | ma3x | gravity, i did! |
| 23:04.46 | ma3x | and still got stupid fonts like times new roman installed |
| 23:04.46 | Borg^Queen | I think it was for hotplug? |
| 23:04.53 | gravity | hrm |
| 23:05.04 | Nomad_1 | Is ia64 the distro that's compatable with 64-bit processors? |
| 23:05.05 | gravity | ma3x: You don't want times new roman any more? |
| 23:05.09 | ma3x | NOO |
| 23:05.22 | gravity | ma3x: Ok. Let me find it so you can rm it |
| 23:05.25 | gravity | one sec |
| 23:05.30 | ma3x | how can i find out with what font am i viewing what im typing now? |
| 23:05.31 | sgeigerbot | Nomad_1: ia64 is an architecture. |
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| 23:05.37 | ma3x | when i type zero i see EYE |
| 23:05.44 | ma3x | how can i find out what font is it |
| 23:05.55 | sgeigerbot | Nomad_1: ...but, yes, that is for 64bit intel processors. |
| 23:06.06 | ma3x | that's the problem in first place |
| 23:06.09 | ma3x | i don't know what to remove |
| 23:06.14 | ma3x | only times new roman might not be enough |
| 23:06.22 | ma3x | i want to have nothing else but the basic fonts |
| 23:06.34 | gravity | one second. Calm down and let me look around... |
| 23:06.39 | ma3x | and that stupid KDE control center, when i clickkeed on defaults, it applied non defaults |
| 23:06.46 | abrotman | jrr: don't msg me |
| 23:06.51 | abrotman | jrr: ask here |
| 23:06.56 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: may I msg you? ;-) |
| 23:06.58 | stew | abrotman: you got mentioned on planet.d.o today |
| 23:07.02 | gravity | ma3x: Check /usr/share/fonts/ |
| 23:07.03 | Nomad_1 | sqeigerbot: I understand this. What I'm asking is whether ia64 is the 64-bit arch. or not? (Distros like Ubuntu call the arch. amd64, but I don't think that that's a universal monicar.) |
| 23:07.05 | sgeigerbot | moo. |
| 23:07.10 | abrotman | jrr: and i apologize . i thought you meant you didn't want colors .. then use vim |
| 23:07.13 | abrotman | stew: ? |
| 23:07.14 | welson | ma3x, use strace, or something that does probing-- possibly lsof or another x<smthing> program might.. |
| 23:07.15 | sgeigerbot | Nomad_1: yes...it is. |
| 23:07.25 | ma3x | fonts.cache-1 truetype |
| 23:07.30 | abrotman | stew: let me catch up |
| 23:07.35 | jrr | abrotman: i'm not talking about syntax hilighting - i'm talking about coloring text |
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| 23:07.40 | sgeigerbot | Nomad_1: ia means, I think, "intel architecture" |
| 23:07.43 | Nomad_1 | So would ia64 be compatable with an AMD 64-bit processor? |
| 23:08.05 | ma3x | i will remove /usr/share/fonts/truetype |
| 23:08.05 | sgeigerbot | Nomad_1: So...I don't think it is...but I might be wrong. |
| 23:08.10 | LinunNIT-laptop | what is sid equivalant to (testing or unstable or what)? |
| 23:08.16 | abrotman | jrr: coloring which text ? |
| 23:08.27 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 23:08.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 23:08.27 | ma3x | oh shit |
| 23:08.29 | stew | abrotman: http://www.damog.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=5&Itemid=76 |
| 23:08.32 | sgeigerbot | Nomad_1: damn, a thousand people should be able to chime in one this one...but htey aren't. |
| 23:08.34 | ma3x | i forgotthe trutype |
| 23:08.41 | ma3x | so i removed usr/share/fonts |
| 23:08.47 | ma3x | good that it wasnt /usr/share |
| 23:08.53 | abrotman | stew: tarzeau got mentioned too! |
| 23:08.57 | zinx | Nomad_1: No. |
| 23:09.00 | cat | hey how can i create a gpg key? |
| 23:09.14 | zinx | Nomad_1: ia64 is Intel's failed 64-bit architechture, x86-64 is what you're looking for. |
| 23:09.19 | sgeigerbot | cat: gpg --gen-key |
| 23:09.25 | gravity | cat: Read the gpg book in /usr/share/doc/gnupg-doc |
| 23:09.35 | ma3x | where can i see default XF86Config-4 ? |
| 23:09.39 | ma3x | can anybody give me url? |
| 23:09.48 | jrr | abrotman: like when ls does different colors for different file types |
| 23:09.48 | Nomad_1 | sgeigerbot: <nods> I've tried to boot from a buisiness card and minimal (net) install cd of the ia64 arch. from them, but my computer didn't even try to boot from the CD. Although it'll boot my Ubuntu install CD just fine so I know it's not a bios problem. |
| 23:09.48 | stew | ma3x: there is no default |
| 23:09.52 | LinunNIT-laptop | thanks guys |
| 23:09.55 | abrotman | stew: yeah .. linking to that page was a bad idea :) |
| 23:10.00 | ma3x | stew: there is when you install XFree |
| 23:10.06 | ma3x | when you configure with the defaults |
| 23:10.15 | stew | ma3x: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 23:10.16 | abrotman | stew: i haven't maintained that site for crap .. it's basically just a no-bandwidth limit for photo hosting :) |
| 23:10.17 | cat | sgeigerbot: then how do i put it on evolution? |
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| 23:10.22 | sgeigerbot | Nomad_1: zinx just answered you. |
| 23:10.51 | stew | ma3x: you probably should /msg dpkg xmd5 |
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| 23:11.10 | abrotman | stew: guess i should really take the whole thing down .. hrm |
| 23:11.24 | Nomad_1 | zinx: Looking at one of their mirror ftp pages I don't see an x86-64 download. |
| 23:11.42 | pusling | hmm... libstdc++6 is upgradable... any warnings except the usual ones ? |
| 23:11.47 | stew | dpkg: drxx is also if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:11.48 | dpkg | is also if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5>: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:11.50 | sgeigerbot | cat: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/tutorials/kjcole/gpg.html |
| 23:11.51 | zinx | Nomad_1: it's entirely possible there's still no official x86-64 packages |
| 23:12.05 | stew | wtf |
| 23:12.06 | Nomad_1 | <grumbles> |
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| 23:12.37 | zinx | Nomad_1: in any case, ia64 is _NOT_ what you want. |
| 23:12.53 | Nomad_1 | I don't know how to compile a distro from source so I have to rely on finished packages. |
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| 23:13.16 | Nomad_1 | Zinx: Thanks man. |
| 23:13.27 | ma3x | should i re-make fonts directory or something similar? |
| 23:13.37 | cat | sgeigerbot: thnx |
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| 23:14.26 | Gumby | when trying to make an initrd I am doing mkinitrd -o initrd-foo.img 2.6.12 the process seems to complete, but initrd-foo.img is nowhere to be found. Am I missing something? |
| 23:14.28 | Nomad_1 | Is there another way to get Debian onto an AMD64 box? |
| 23:14.33 | steini | Hi folks, i am compiling 2.6.8 kernel and get this in ../messges "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled."?? |
| 23:14.41 | stew | Nomad_1: ask #debian-amd64 |
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| 23:14.54 | Gumby | steini: enable loadable module support in the kernel |
| 23:14.58 | JediMaster | hi guys |
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| 23:15.08 | Nomad_1 | stew: roger. Thanks man. |
| 23:15.19 | stew | steini: do you have a good reason to compile in the first place? |
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| 23:15.28 | JediMaster | quick question, what's the easiest way to make an ISO of a cd that is mixed (data and audio) as DD only seems to read the data tracks |
| 23:15.46 | steini | alredy did that that is not the case is there some way to install modules in kpkg |
| 23:15.46 | ma3x | stew, I still see times new roman, and courier. How do I really remove them? |
| 23:16.05 | madclicker | how could i fix this "the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly"? |
| 23:16.08 | steini | yes stew |
| 23:16.48 | welson | JediMaster, k3b |
| 23:16.50 | sgeigerbot | cat: np |
| 23:17.01 | Gumby | steini: what does grep -i CONFIG_MODULES /usr/src/kernel-you-are-compiling/.config |
| 23:17.03 | cat | i already figured it out, thnx for you'r help mr sgeigerbot |
| 23:17.05 | Gumby | return |
| 23:17.09 | JediMaster | welson: without kde installed? |
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| 23:17.22 | sgeigerbot | cat: :-) |
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| 23:17.29 | stew | steini: make-kpkg --added-modules=foo, or use m-a; but for modules you would need to compile the kernel, you know |
| 23:17.31 | gilber | Hello, how i can get amule in sarge? |
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| 23:17.48 | welson | JediMaster, cdrecord |
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| 23:17.52 | stew | ma3x: everything i know about fonts i learned from /msg dpkg font guide |
| 23:18.18 | sgeigerbot | gilber: There's always the option of compiling from source and then running "sudo checkinstall -D" instead of "make install" |
| 23:18.18 | gilber | how i can join stable + some packages of sid, for example amule? |
| 23:18.23 | stew | gilber: /msg dpkg simple sid backport ; /msg dpkg backports |
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| 23:18.59 | ma3x | stew: how can i find out what font are now loaded? |
| 23:19.12 | ma3x | or the letters i see now, what font is it? |
| 23:19.18 | ma3x | how can i find out that ? |
| 23:19.27 | steini | stew is there someting in debian like make modues modules_install |
| 23:19.51 | gilber | stew how i can do this? |
| 23:19.59 | welson | steini, you shouldn't have to with make-kpkg |
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| 23:20.24 | stew | steini: make-kpkg? what module are you trying to add to your kenrel? |
| 23:20.28 | steini | why not welson |
| 23:20.30 | abrotman | what's up with the odd N=blah ? |
| 23:20.38 | welson | steini, because you don't have to |
| 23:20.39 | steini | 2.6.8 |
| 23:20.49 | abrotman | steini: no .. you don't have to .. |
| 23:20.49 | ddfire | hi one question how i can add something to the menu wich is displayed when i click on the rigth boton (of the mouse)? |
| 23:20.50 | abrotman | !kp |
| 23:20.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 23:20.51 | stew | !tell gilber about simple sid backport |
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| 23:21.27 | Nethox | Hi |
| 23:21.30 | stew | ddfire: depedns on what WM / DE you use |
| 23:21.39 | stew | ma3x: i dunno, run xfontsel |
| 23:21.40 | gilber | ok stew i will try, thanks |
| 23:21.59 | ma3x | XFree86 does a rather poor job of rendering Type1 fonts these days,and if this is above your better looking fonts, you can get a some pretty ugly results. |
| 23:22.05 | ma3x | Exactly that's it! |
| 23:22.15 | ma3x | poor rendering |
| 23:22.21 | abrotman | !fonts |
| 23:22.21 | dpkg | fonts is, like, check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, ask me about <font guide>, or http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html and http://www.justlinux.com/bin/feature/story.pl?fid=1861565 or http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html |
| 23:22.36 | ma3x | damn the fonts |
| 23:22.45 | ma3x | i got hunched back now |
| 23:22.51 | ma3x | 3 days and nights installin |
| 23:23.01 | Blissex | ma3x: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxFonts.html too |
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| 23:23.37 | ma3x | anyway do i need this line? |
| 23:23.39 | ecobit | where does /etc/ld.so.nohwcap come from? |
| 23:23.39 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:23.41 | Blissex | ma3x: actually X does a pretty good job of rendering PS fonts, if you use the 'freetype' module instead of the 'type1' module. |
| 23:23.42 | ddfire | stew i am using KDE |
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| 23:23.53 | daesotho | so firefox automatically uses totem to play .wmvs |
| 23:24.06 | daesotho | totem doesn't play .wmvs |
| 23:24.08 | stew | ddfire: ask #debian-kde |
| 23:24.09 | Blissex | ecobit: it is related to an extension for GLIBC 2.3.4 and following, |
| 23:24.13 | ma3x | Blissex, does that mean I should remove type1 line and add freetype instead? |
| 23:24.13 | ddfire | thanks |
| 23:24.17 | daesotho | mplayer plays .wmvs |
| 23:24.22 | Blissex | ma3x: yes, read that page... |
| 23:24.31 | daesotho | how to get firefox to use mplayer? |
| 23:24.38 | daesotho | or get totem to play .wmvs? |
| 23:25.09 | welson | daedalus_, apt search mplayer plugin |
| 23:25.18 | Blissex | daesotho: change the associations... Firefox preferences. Also, ask in the irc://irc.mozilla.org/MozillaZine channel for Firefox etc. stuff |
| 23:25.55 | nerdy2 | totem-xine will play .wmv's if you have the right codecs, totem-gstreamer might as well with the gstreamer-pitfdll plugin |
| 23:25.56 | daedalus_ | welson: apt-search your mom |
| 23:26.05 | daedalus_ | welson: ;) I know it was a typo |
| 23:26.25 | welson | daedalus_, i meant to remove that if i were you |
| 23:26.26 | Blissex | ma3x: what you should do is to specify only two font rendering modules (assuming you don't use Speedo fonts) and they should be 'freetype' and 'bitmap', and because of a very odd reason 'freetype' should come before 'bitmap', and 'bitmap' should be explicitly listed. |
| 23:26.31 | daesotho | thanks all |
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| 23:27.35 | daedalus_ | welson: Uh... what? |
| 23:27.48 | welson | daesotho, apt-cache search is a cmd in xterm |
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| 23:28.53 | ecobit | Blissex: will apps crash if its not there? i'm missing that and some other /etc/ld. stuff |
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| 23:29.32 | Blissex | ecobit: I hope not, but it should be there and contain 'downgrade-to-old-glibc' if it is there. |
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| 23:29.38 | Kasiope | hi there |
| 23:29.40 | Kasiope | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.44 | steini | one simple question - is there any way to install modules after one have made make-kpkg.... and dpkg -i.... ? because of the error message in /var/log/messages "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled."? |
| 23:30.50 | liable | steini: can you still load modules though? |
| 23:30.53 | stew | Blissex: are you sure it should be there, none of my boxes seem to have it? |
| 23:31.28 | X2 | bye guys. thanks for help |
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| 23:31.39 | stew | steini: what modules are you trying to add? |
| 23:31.41 | lluka | hey anyone familiar with ati drivers? |
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| 23:31.52 | abrotman | #ati is |
| 23:31.53 | stew | lluka: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 23:31.54 | Blissex | stew: depends on which version of the GNU LIBC package you are using -- it is a hack to help the 2.3.2 to 2.3.5 transition... |
| 23:31.56 | lobomufas | hi |
| 23:32.03 | welson | Kasiope, tar |
| 23:32.11 | Kasiope | welon, tar? |
| 23:32.15 | Kasiope | welson, tar? |
| 23:32.32 | welson | Kasiope, apt-get install tar if you don't have it |
| 23:32.33 | kurumin | Marcos |
| 23:32.40 | Ezther | what's a good way to umount /home so I can do a resize2fs then remount my logical volume after resizing? right now I get umount: /home: device is busy |
| 23:32.40 | ecobit | Blissex: i don't know what's going on, but some of the /etc/ld. files are disappearing in front of my eyes on one system. are they dynamically generated? |
| 23:32.55 | Blissex | ecobit: some are. The cache for example. |
| 23:33.04 | kurumin | Alguém fala portugês? |
| 23:33.06 | welson | ~tell Kasiope about tar |
| 23:33.11 | stew | !portuguese |
| 23:33.11 | dpkg | well, portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:33.20 | Blissex | ecobit: the '/etc/ld.so.conf' is however ''static'' and very important. |
| 23:33.24 | Kasiope | welson tar is not for splitting |
| 23:33.35 | welson | Kasiope, man tar, you can create volume sets |
| 23:33.38 | madclicker | how could i fix this "the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly"? |
| 23:34.17 | stew | Kasiope: what are you trying to do? |
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| 23:34.29 | gilber | stew , about amule, in sid backport after of apt-get -b souce amule, what is the next step |
| 23:34.53 | Kasiope | stew:i'm trying tosplit a tar file some gigas and when i joint them i can't find some files |
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| 23:34.58 | stew | gilber: dpkg -i the package it built |
| 23:35.03 | steini | stew it is all about loading modules with the new kernel in the startup to get the ps mouse working |
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| 23:35.22 | stew | steini: why are you compiling a kernel in the first place? |
| 23:35.24 | Tomy | hi, any network experts alive? |
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| 23:35.38 | FieldySnuts | experts are usually paid |
| 23:35.39 | ma3x | Blissex, is this the package that i need tot install " freetype1-tools " ? |
| 23:35.43 | FieldySnuts | but we can try |
| 23:35.43 | stew | Kasiope: you are splitting them with split? |
| 23:35.51 | dondelelcaro | !tell Tomy -about ask |
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| 23:35.54 | Blissex | ma3x: no, that module is already part of X |
| 23:35.59 | Kasiope | stew: that's right |
| 23:36.02 | steini | whant to clone my system with mondo midi to dvd |
| 23:36.06 | stew | Kasiope: how are you joining them? |
| 23:36.11 | Blissex | ma3x: 'freetype1-tools' are just command line utilities. |
| 23:36.21 | ma3x | Blissex, but what should i put in xfreeconfig for truetype fonts/ |
| 23:36.45 | Kasiope | stew:i join them in windows |
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| 23:36.56 | FieldySnuts | theres the problem |
| 23:36.56 | Tomy | I have three computers that are used as network routers, everyone in their own subnet |
| 23:37.03 | stew | Kasiope: i wouldn't blame split |
| 23:37.06 | ecobit | Blissex: i'm looking at strace output from kmail crashing. the only thing that i see wrong in the output is ld.so.nohwcap and ld.so.preload "No such file or directory". could these be the cause of it segfaulting? |
| 23:37.12 | FieldySnuts | win had problems with large files anyway especially over 2GB |
| 23:37.14 | FieldySnuts | has |
| 23:37.21 | Kasiope | stew: i join them with cat in windows |
| 23:37.26 | Tomy | one is connected to two and two is connected to three |
| 23:37.32 | Kasiope | cat nombre del archivo >> nombre archivo |
| 23:37.33 | ma3x | Blissex, I meant freetype |
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| 23:37.43 | Kasiope | cat filename >> filename |
| 23:37.52 | Tomy | from number one and two I can ping, ftp and do everything, but from number three I can only ping number two but not one |
| 23:38.01 | FieldySnuts | win is the problem, seriously it acts goofy with large files |
| 23:38.02 | Tomy | ip_forward is enabled on all |
| 23:38.11 | Tomy | any clues? |
| 23:38.15 | stew | Kasiope: you can rejoin them on the linux side to verify that the split was correct |
| 23:38.44 | Tomy | and clients that connect to number three and use it as gateway can access number two and one normally |
| 23:38.50 | Blissex | ma3x: you just need to edit the 'XF86Config_4' file... |
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| 23:38.57 | FieldySnuts | number one... the larch. |
| 23:39.04 | MrBallZ | hi, i just installed Sarge , and everything is ok , the thing is that open office wont start, any of the apps that make the suite , it seems like its going to start, because the taskbar bar for the program appears, but then dissapears ... what could it be? |
| 23:39.11 | Kasiope | stew: I'll try |
| 23:39.19 | Tomy | FieldySnuts ? |
| 23:39.25 | ma3x | Blissex, exactly, what line do i add for freetype? |
| 23:39.28 | welson | Tomy, have ip forward for both interfaces on machine 2 |
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| 23:39.54 | Tomy | welson: yes |
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| 23:40.10 | welson | Tomy, find /proc -iname '*forward*' |
| 23:40.11 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.13 | shingouz | ma3x: use dpkg-reconfigure instead, do not hand-hack the file please. |
| 23:40.20 | golly | can anyone recommend software in Debain to convert a Divx avi to DVD video? |
| 23:40.25 | Tomy | but I simply don't get it how clients that use number three can ping and use number two and one normally |
| 23:40.27 | welson | Tomy, and see if there's anything else relevant to forward (echo 1 > ..) |
| 23:40.51 | Blissex | ma3x: these two lines, in exactly this order, and no other font module: |
| 23:40.53 | Tomy | but from machine number three I can't do shit, I can only ping the IP of number two |
| 23:40.54 | ma3x | shingouz, I tried to reconfigure with, but the goofy fonts still display |
| 23:40.55 | Blissex | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.55 | Blissex | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.02 | Tomy | welson: been there, done that |
| 23:41.06 | Tomy | welson: no change |
| 23:41.39 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: wenas who uses dvd kk |
| 23:41.51 | welson | Tomy, what's the router table for machine 2? |
| 23:42.24 | Blissex | ma3x: also please read the page at the URL I gave you, because are far more complex than you seem to have realized. |
| 23:42.31 | ma3x | let me test it |
| 23:42.36 | ma3x | yes it is very complex |
| 23:42.42 | ma3x | i just can't believe it |
| 23:42.42 | madclicker | green_earz: thanks, I wish some of these help pages tried installing grub on SCSI HW/RAID |
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| 23:42.48 | Blissex | golly: 'transcode' |
| 23:43.26 | Tomy | welson: normal, I've added networks for number one and number three with the default gateway being cards on their end for each one |
| 23:43.29 | golly | Blissex: cheers. |
| 23:43.42 | Blissex | ma3x: for example I hope you have realized that there are at least half a dozen ''core'' font systems in a typical GNU/Linux system... And each has to be configured differently, that's why DeFoMa (a horrid hack) exists. |
| 23:43.43 | steini | welson think Bastille firewall is the simplest way to forward masqurate |
| 23:43.50 | welson | Tomy, you know what a gateway is? |
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| 23:43.59 | Tomy | welson: yes |
| 23:44.11 | gilber | stew , about amule, in sid backport i write apt-get -b source amule but it not end |
| 23:44.19 | welson | Tomy, y, also look at your firewall rule tables |
| 23:44.24 | Tomy | welson: flushed it |
| 23:44.40 | Tomy | welson: none whatsoever |
| 23:45.34 | welson | Tomy, well you know that your gateway is the problem, so look at its rule's tables.. |
| 23:45.36 | gilber | i get a message ... ;exit 1; fi |
| 23:45.53 | gilber | what can i do?? |
| 23:46.11 | covux | MrBallZ: did it print anything out if you start openoffice in a shell? |
| 23:46.47 | Tomy | welson: I have an identical network at another location and it works perfectly. And I have even a larger one that does OSPF with backup connections through various media (wireless) and it also works perfectly |
| 23:47.16 | green_earz | madclicker: am i right in thinking that the scsi will boot from the mbr. of the drive picked in the scsi chain. have a look at the ide raid doc for mdadm, it as a section on installing grub on to the mbr. |
| 23:47.41 | Tomy | welson: but the thing that amazes me is is that clients that connect to number three can access one and two normally, and they use number three as gateway (dhcp assigned ip address and gw).. |
| 23:47.57 | green_earz | madclicker: thats if its raid1 |
| 23:48.15 | Kasiope | stew: this one can be used?? dpkg-split |
| 23:48.26 | welson | Tomy, can two ping 3? |
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| 23:48.33 | madclicker | green_earz: i dont use mdadm, the card is a SCSI RAID H/W from adaptec 2120S |
| 23:48.38 | Tomy | welson: yap |
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| 23:49.04 | green_earz | madclicker: ok |
| 23:49.15 | ma3x | Blissex, it changed, but its very ugly |
| 23:49.18 | Tomy | welson: absolutely everything works for everyone and everything connected to that network, except I can't do shit from machine three |
| 23:49.28 | ma3x | Blissex, where can I upload a snapshot of my screen? |
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| 23:49.32 | Tomy | welson: I can ping number two and that's about it |
| 23:49.42 | MrBallZ | covux: what would be the command , ooowriter ??? |
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| 23:50.27 | madclicker | green_earz: i tried second time, but still get "/boot/grub/stage1 cannot read corectly" |
| 23:50.37 | Kasiope | dpkg-split may be used tojoin in a windows OS? |
| 23:50.47 | covux | MrBallZ: yes. or openoffice |
| 23:50.48 | Blissex | ma3x: there are some image paste sites, or you can DCC it to me, but I am not sure I did remember to configure my fw to let DCC in. But try. |
| 23:51.00 | ma3x | ok |
| 23:51.02 | VeloxRaptor | oh meu deus |
| 23:51.03 | VeloxRaptor | oh meu deus |
| 23:51.06 | welson | Tomy, well there's tcpdump machine 1 may be getting something from machine 3 |
| 23:51.06 | ma3x | im not sure if mine works too |
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| 23:51.57 | covux | MrBallZ: oowriter one o to much :-) |
| 23:51.59 | thingfish | meu deus do ceu |
| 23:52.16 | MrBallZ | covux: it seems i know what the problem is :D |
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| 23:52.46 | Tomy | welson: Tried that, no result. I've checked MAC addresses also, no conflict whatsoever. Running ntop on all three machines, also. I have no clue. |
| 23:52.48 | Blissex | ma3x: thats not too bad... What's the problem. |
| 23:52.56 | green_earz | madclicker: sorry i can not help. if you can not get is sorted here drop on to debian-user@lists.debian.org mail list |
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| 23:53.08 | ma3x | Blissex, let me send you one more, you'll get it detailed |
| 23:53.14 | covux | MrBallZ: kewl :-) |
| 23:53.23 | Tomy | welson: I'm one stop from banging my head against the wall and blaming it all on gremlins. |
| 23:53.43 | madclicker | green_earz: roger |
| 23:53.49 | green_earz | np |
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| 23:54.24 | welson | Tomy, are you listening to both interfaces on machine 2 at the same time? |
| 23:54.29 | ma3x | Blissex, it looks like a handwritten letter from 300 years ago to the Bishop |
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| 23:54.59 | ma3x | I only want the default font |
| 23:55.05 | madclicker | green_earz: just to let you know, lilo works like a charm |
| 23:55.06 | Tomy | welson: hmm, listening with what? |
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| 23:55.14 | Shadowcat | heh lilo |
| 23:55.19 | Blissex | ma3x: font characters that small it is not bad at all. |
| 23:55.19 | ma3x | if that's not possible, I'd like to know what package should I reinstall, or how to start from beginning |
| 23:55.23 | Shadowcat | I don't think I've ever seen debian with lilo |
| 23:55.24 | welson | Tomy, tcpdump f |
| 23:55.33 | welson | Tomy, for acknowledgments, etc.. |
| 23:55.39 | ma3x | Blissex, can you tell what font that is? |
| 23:55.42 | MrBallZ | covux: it worked |
| 23:56.00 | MrBallZ | covux: i deleted the .oppenoffice folder in my home , thanks man |
| 23:56.00 | MrBallZ | :D |
| 23:56.02 | MrBallZ | bye bye |
| 23:56.04 | ma3x | Blissex, in the control center when I click on defaults it sets to other defaults (not like when I installed debian) |
| 23:56.22 | Blissex | ma3x: looks like Times, but for glyphs with so few pixels it is hard to manke distintive shapes. |
| 23:56.54 | Blissex | ma3x: you have a lot more problems thant Type1 fonts here... Let's go thru them. |
| 23:57.23 | ma3x | yes please |
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| 23:57.34 | ma3x | I'm ready to comply |
| 23:57.35 | DoppleGanger | um no please |
| 23:57.54 | ma3x | DoppleGanger, stay aside please |
| 23:57.59 | green_earz | madclicker: thats intresting ? but its up and runing, lilo do the job,! |
| 23:58.12 | Tomy | welson: machine 2 doesn't see anything coming from number 3.. but I can connect normally from number 1 or 2 to 3 |
| 23:58.32 | welson | Tomy, ? connect to what from 1,2, or 3? |
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| 23:58.41 | madclicker | green_earz: odd, but never the less it just booted fine. |
| 23:58.52 | Tomy | welson: from 1or2 to 3 |
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| 23:59.06 | welson | Tomy, I give up |
| 23:59.20 | gilber | stew thanks, now i have amule in sarge!!!! wheeeeeeeee!!!! |
| 23:59.30 | stew | !yay |
| 23:59.30 | dpkg | yay! |
| 23:59.46 | Tomy | I guess I'll blame it all on gremlins. |
