| 00:00.02 | madclicker | green_earz: kind of explains why two boot-loaders ;-) |
| 00:00.11 | stew | Tomy: when you say "doesn't see anything" how are you determining that? |
| 00:00.19 | JediMaster | is it possible to output cdrecord to a file instead of a device? (e.g. make a cd image instead) |
| 00:00.38 | shingouz | JediMaster: man mkisofs |
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| 00:00.53 | welson | Tomy, all I can say is look at the router's table for machine 2 |
| 00:00.54 | Tomy | stew: can't ping, ergo, can't ftp/http/ssh. nothing. can't do shit from three. |
| 00:00.55 | JediMaster | shingouz: does mkisofs do mixed mode? |
| 00:01.06 | stew | Tomy: see if you see the traffic with tcpdump |
| 00:01.15 | Tomy | stew: nope. none whatsoever. |
| 00:01.19 | shingouz | JediMaster: no idea, check the manual. i think it can do almost anything already |
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| 00:01.46 | stew | Tomy: reboot the switch they are connected with? |
| 00:01.48 | Tomy | stew: ofcourse, when I connect from number one through two to three I can see matching traffic. |
| 00:02.03 | Tomy | stew: no switches. |
| 00:02.07 | alexk | Anyone know if there is something that gives me the ability to detach from a remote x11 session and resume it from another computer like what screen does? |
| 00:02.20 | tuppa | freenx? |
| 00:02.35 | stew | alexk: xmove |
| 00:02.36 | tuppa | or even vnc |
| 00:02.41 | daedalus_ | alexk: xnest? |
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| 00:03.12 | green_earz | madclicker: yes if not one the other so lilo and grub are a good pair. i had it when its lilo but no grub. but i do prefer grub over lilo. Raid whys > here a handy link for debian installer software raid1 howto for ide. may be use full in the future ?? http://nepotismia.com/debian/raidinstall/ |
| 00:03.23 | ma3x | Blissex, I am waiting at your command ... |
| 00:03.41 | Blissex | ma3x: the first note is that X-Chat is not as KDE application, so unless you do a special thing it won't get the KDE fon settings. |
| 00:04.00 | Blissex | ma3x: the special thing is to add the KDE/GTK settings engine. |
| 00:04.32 | ma3x | Blissex, xchat uses monospace. But its a lot different than before |
| 00:04.36 | ma3x | before it was all readable |
| 00:04.38 | ma3x | now i get blind |
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| 00:05.13 | alexk | Thanks all. |
| 00:05.13 | Blissex | ma3x: so, have you added the GTK/KDE engine? |
| 00:05.26 | ma3x | to xchat? |
| 00:05.29 | welson | Tomy, you can see what's listed on in /proc - find /proc -iname '*forward*' -exec cat '{}' \; |
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| 00:05.43 | christor | Please I would like to modify source of the apache2...deb |
| 00:05.43 | welson | Tomy, and are you using echo or sysctl ? |
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| 00:05.53 | Blissex | ma3x: but what's the problem with those fonts? for how small they look,they look good |
| 00:05.59 | naoliv | Hi. How can I creat this socket /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock of MySQL, please? |
| 00:06.13 | stew | welson: you mean /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward? |
| 00:06.21 | lobomufas | norox: thats on my.cnf file of mysql |
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| 00:06.36 | christor | How can I modify the source of a deb packageS? |
| 00:06.38 | ma3x | Blissex, please just tell me how do I reinstall the whole X ? |
| 00:06.40 | stew | welson: one shouldn't use sysctl or echo for that, use /etc/network/options |
| 00:06.46 | ma3x | like delete fonts everything, and start from new |
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| 00:06.48 | Blissex | ma3x: because if you don't say what the problem is exactly it is hard to tell you. |
| 00:06.48 | stew | christor: /msg dpkg source |
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| 00:06.59 | lobomufas | norox: if you use a precompiled binary from mysql.com I think the socket file is under /tmp |
| 00:07.03 | Blissex | ma3x: you don't need to reinstall the whole X... |
| 00:07.12 | mwilson | Blissex: He's been rearranging X at random. |
| 00:07.17 | daedalus_ | christor: use deb-source, patch, recompile, build .debs and use dpkg to install |
| 00:07.23 | ma3x | Blissex, I want the default fonts, like after the installation |
| 00:07.23 | Blissex | mwilson: ahhhhh, but even so... |
| 00:07.26 | Tomy | welson: well, I had it in sysctl, but when I found about that shit tried echo or/and sysctl |
| 00:07.26 | welson | Tomy, stew mentioned that filie thing.. check that one too |
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| 00:07.33 | naoliv | lobomufas: Right. I will take a look here. Thank yoy. |
| 00:07.33 | daedalus_ | christor: or do you mean contributing to the project? |
| 00:07.37 | Tomy | filie ? |
| 00:07.41 | ma3x | what do I need to reinstall exactly? |
| 00:07.44 | mwilson | Blissex: And I don't mean just the configuration. |
| 00:07.45 | Blissex | ma3x: have you perchance removed the _bitmap_ fonts? |
| 00:07.46 | shingouz | mwilson: he has been rearranging the whole install for about a couple of weeks now if i am not too much mistaken |
| 00:07.48 | welson | Tomy, /etc/network/options |
| 00:07.58 | christor | in fact I want to change some information in my apache2.deb |
| 00:08.02 | Blissex | mwilson: ahhhh, a tough customer :-) |
| 00:08.06 | christor | but I don t knwo how to do |
| 00:08.08 | ma3x | Blissex, possible. Can I paste my XF86Config-4 file |
| 00:08.12 | mfrisch | how do you setup crypttab?? |
| 00:08.20 | Blissex | ma3x: paste is to pastebin.com for example |
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| 00:08.41 | PAULAO | Hi, brasilian in channel |
| 00:08.44 | christor | when I do a dpkg -x apacheé.deb I have not the same file that in the apache2.tar.gz |
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| 00:08.52 | green_earz | ma3x: the link may be of help ? font whys >http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xfs-tt |
| 00:08.53 | daedalus_ | christor: use apt-get source <pkg> to grab the source pacakge |
| 00:08.55 | Blissex | mfrisch: thats a very dangerous operation. Have a look rather at http://loop-AES.SourceForge.net/ and in particular its 'README' file |
| 00:08.58 | PAULAO | TEM ALGUM BRASILEIRO AQUI |
| 00:09.05 | shingouz | !br |
| 00:09.05 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:09.06 | Tomy | welson: nothing strange there |
| 00:09.12 | thingfish | PAULAO: we guessed by your nick - use #debian-br |
| 00:09.17 | daedalus_ | christor: then follow the roadmap I mentioned earlier. |
| 00:09.24 | welson | Tomy, i have ip_forward=no line |
| 00:09.26 | ma3x | Blissex, http://pastebin.com/332460 |
| 00:09.31 | PAULAO | THANK |
| 00:09.42 | Tomy | welson: and I have ip_forward=yes ;-) |
| 00:09.42 | welson | Tomy, on my system I have a bridge setup |
| 00:09.48 | thingfish | PAULAO: it looks real stupid to use all caps. |
| 00:09.56 | christor | daedalus_: cool thx |
| 00:10.00 | welson | Tomy, spoof_protect=yes |
| 00:10.05 | Tomy | welson: and =1 in sysctl.conf, plus a echo 1 > in a startup script.. |
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| 00:10.18 | mfrisch | Blissex got the device and have used them before, I can't remember how to setup crypttab so I have to setup the device by hand each reboot. |
| 00:10.26 | welson | Tomy, sysctl -a triggers what's set in its conf |
| 00:10.34 | Tomy | welson: tried no and yes.. |
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| 00:10.53 | Blissex | mfrisch: as in 'man crypttab'? |
| 00:10.59 | welson | Tomy, i think this is the way to do it though .. to use sysclt.conf ... so they're all '1' with find and cat? |
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| 00:11.09 | Blissex | ma3x: it is not too bad. |
| 00:11.16 | Hiryu | where can I find a stable sources.list for amd64? |
| 00:11.39 | Blissex | ma3x: I'll give you a series of commands to install packages and then a few lines to add to the fonts paths... |
| 00:11.48 | ma3x | Blissex, ok I'm ready |
| 00:11.50 | Tomy | welson: by default, mc_forwarding is 0.. tried enabling that to 1.. no effect |
| 00:11.50 | mwilson | Hiryu: There's something wrong with what it installed? |
| 00:12.11 | mfrisch | Blissex did that home /dev/hda9 /dev/sda2 I get a error. |
| 00:12.18 | Blissex | ma3x: the first things to do is 'apt-get install msttcorefonts', even if that hurts me. |
| 00:12.43 | Blissex | mfrisch: no idea, sorry I use loop-AES |
| 00:12.47 | Tomy | welson: even tried to =1 the rp_filter.. nope, nothing. |
| 00:12.57 | welson | Tomy, can I see your machine 2 router's table? (pastebin.ca) |
| 00:13.03 | pureone_ | anyone had this problem with mysql like this http://pastebin.com/332462 |
| 00:13.07 | mfrisch | Blissex THANKS |
| 00:13.22 | Hiryu | mwilson: yeh, it was giving me sid the whole time even though I told apt.conf to get me sarge, and now I have broken apps on a server |
| 00:13.42 | ma3x | Blissex, installed, next? |
| 00:13.51 | trevor | how do i get unrar? have all these backup files from wintendo's need to unrar em now |
| 00:13.54 | ma3x | All done, no errors. All fonts downloaded and installed. |
| 00:13.58 | welson | pureone_, that can happen if you deleted the debian-sys-maint mysqldb user |
| 00:14.02 | trevor | or i guess rar for rar e |
| 00:14.16 | mwilson | pureone_: Uh, it's telling you that mysql isn't running, and it's telling you WHY it isn't running. What more do you need? |
| 00:14.19 | dondelelcaro | trevor: you install it. Both rar-nonfree and unrar are packaged. |
| 00:14.20 | Blissex | ma3x: next... |
| 00:14.25 | dondelelcaro | !tell trevor -about search |
| 00:14.29 | mwilson | Hiryu: Sure it was. |
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| 00:14.43 | Hiryu | mwilson: wasn't sarge also released supporting amd64? |
| 00:14.43 | Blissex | ma3x: some of the following will fail because you already got it installed... |
| 00:14.49 | mwilson | Hiryu: No. |
| 00:14.50 | ma3x | ok, no problem |
| 00:14.56 | Hiryu | mwilson: oh great |
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| 00:15.20 | imaek | If I have a folder |
| 00:15.24 | imaek | that for some stupid reason |
| 00:15.37 | Blissex | ma3x: install these packages: xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-efont-unicode |
| 00:15.40 | chealer | isn't called a directory? |
| 00:15.42 | imaek | has decided to have the paths in the file-names instead of the acutal paths |
| 00:15.43 | chealer | !folder |
| 00:15.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, folder is a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet, or what ya do before ya doer |
| 00:15.52 | trevor | dondelelcaro: Ahh I guess I need some extra sources for my sources.list then, search shows nothing |
| 00:15.58 | Blissex | ma3x: and after these some more font packages... |
| 00:16.02 | imaek | i.e. "/script/hi.txt" is actually called that, instead of being in the folder /script/ |
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| 00:16.09 | imaek | What is the easiest way to correct that? |
| 00:16.14 | eroda | http://www.danaquarium.com/article.php?story=20050809092207718 <--- Taxing Open Source Software |
| 00:16.30 | chealer | imaek: huh? |
| 00:16.45 | ma3x | Blissex, done. Installed all those packages |
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| 00:16.59 | imaek | chealer: I have a directory of files, which I unrared, and instead of putting them into their directory |
| 00:16.59 | Blissex | ma3x: you got a fast network connection... BTW, how fast? |
| 00:17.09 | Tomy | welson: http://pastebin.ca/19588 |
| 00:17.10 | ma3x | Blissex, 1,2 Mbps |
| 00:17.12 | imaek | it added their path to their name |
| 00:17.17 | imaek | i.e. "/script/hi.txt" is actually called that, instead of being in the folder /script/ |
| 00:17.26 | Blissex | ma3x: pretty good, you also got a fair bit of space in '/'? |
| 00:17.29 | imaek | is there an easy way of fixing this? |
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| 00:17.39 | stew | Hiryu: there was sarge release of amd64 but it was unofficial |
| 00:17.39 | ma3x | Blissex, I have a lot of HDD space |
| 00:17.54 | chealer | imaek: if you have a /script/hi.txt, it's a hi.txt file in the /script directory |
| 00:18.00 | imaek | No |
| 00:18.01 | imaek | it isn't. |
| 00:18.08 | imaek | it's name is "/script/hi.txt" |
| 00:18.21 | mwilson | imaek: So? Rename it as appropriate. |
| 00:18.24 | imaek | -rw-r--r-- 1 clarkfis clarkfis 514 May 6 00:00 upload\upgrade\upg_20014\version_history.php |
| 00:18.24 | imaek | -rw-r--r-- 1 clarkfis clarkfis 4625 May 6 00:00 upload\upgrade\upg_20014\version_upgrade.php |
| 00:18.24 | imaek | -rw-r--r-- 1 clarkfis clarkfis 50112 May 6 00:00 upload\upgrade\upgrade.php |
| 00:18.27 | imaek | there are like 400 files. |
| 00:18.29 | stew | imaek: "/" is not a legal character in a filename |
| 00:18.36 | mwilson | stew: Since when? |
| 00:18.41 | imaek | stew that didn't stop unrar. |
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| 00:19.31 | stew | hrm, i could swear, /me tries to find a reference |
| 00:19.57 | Blissex | ma3x: install: ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-freefont ttf-junicode ttf-opensymbol unifont ttf-dejavu ttf-mgopen ttf-thryomanes xfonts-artwiz xfonts-intl-european |
| 00:20.04 | daedalus_ | imaek: \ != / |
| 00:20.12 | imaek | Ok |
| 00:20.13 | imaek | Well |
| 00:20.18 | imaek | How can I split them up? |
| 00:20.52 | Blissex | ma3x: the font packages I have listed so far are those that I find of particularly high quality and niceness. |
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| 00:20.57 | mwilson | stew: Anything is legal. Whether you can actually get it into the filename... that's another story. |
| 00:21.11 | ma3x | Blissex, ttf-dejavu does not install (cannot find the package) |
| 00:21.12 | blikar | Off topic question: Anyone in possesion of a HP pavilion dv 1000 notebook? |
| 00:21.18 | ma3x | Blissex, done installing. |
| 00:21.31 | blikar | I need the Quickplay thingy, hence the question |
| 00:21.37 | SDFH_Linux | definitive apt get sources list anyone want to share |
| 00:21.55 | mfrisch | SDFH_Linux apt-get.org |
| 00:22.04 | stew | mwilson: the only characters not allowed in a posix filename are / and \0 |
| 00:22.11 | Blissex | ma3x: now, now, repaste your 'XF86Config_4' to pasteBin.com |
| 00:22.12 | welson | Tomy, brb |
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| 00:23.15 | mwilson | stew: Again, let's differentiate between what a standard says you can't do, and what the filesystem ALLOWS you to do. |
| 00:23.19 | RvGaTe | funny that dpkg didn't react on my "etherwake" request... |
| 00:23.22 | Blissex | ma3x: also install BTW: gtkfontsel tkfont |
| 00:23.24 | ma3x | Blissex, http://pastebin.com/332467 |
| 00:23.43 | RvGaTe | but its a small package for WOL, very usefull |
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| 00:23.59 | ma3x | Blissex, installed. |
| 00:24.45 | nite613 | From an fsck: /dev/hda7: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while reading block 518 |
| 00:24.55 | nite613 | Is that my drive about to bite it? |
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| 00:25.08 | nite613 | It's the last partition on the drive, the others seem intact, but this one is acting quite pooched :( |
| 00:25.16 | ajs` | does anyone know how to switch the default version of gcc? |
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| 00:25.21 | Blissex | ma3x: wait a bit, I am trying to remember the name of the KDE/GTK settings engine. |
| 00:25.25 | ajs` | i installed 3.4.4 but its still using 3.3.5 |
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| 00:26.06 | stew | mwilson: how can i create a filename on my filesystem which contains a / ? |
| 00:26.10 | gravity | ajs`: Just change the symlink in /usr/bin |
| 00:26.31 | ajs` | hmm thats what i thought, but its still using the 3.3.5 libs |
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| 00:26.40 | martman | dpkg-reconfigure bind9 gives me "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: bind9 is not installed" yet when i apt get it again i get "bind9 is already the newest version." |
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| 00:27.05 | welson | Tomy, which is the number two we're talking about, what ip/s are you trying to use it as? |
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| 00:29.20 | welson | Tomy, if the mask is 24, why is the gateway on another network for line 1? |
| 00:29.59 | abrotman | there's a $VAR you can use that run-parts will send the email to someone other than root .. right ? |
| 00:30.09 | cat | when i run fetchmail it says i have mail so when i open up mutt |
| 00:30.09 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.09 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.11 | cat | any ideas? |
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| 00:30.46 | Blissex | ma3x: now 'apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt' |
| 00:30.48 | martman | now thats some serious nazi-ing....4 lines lol.... |
| 00:30.59 | ma3x | done Blissex |
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| 00:32.15 | Blissex | ma3x: now do this: 'xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1' |
| 00:32.29 | Tomy | welson: that's copy/paste from the machine in the middle (10.20.3.1), it has three cards, one for that subnet (10.20.3.0/24), and two that are put in .254 and .253 and their sole purpose is to be in the same subnet as ones on machines at 10.20.2.0 and 10.20.1.0.. |
| 00:32.45 | Blissex | ma3x: I am a bit worried that in the 'XF86Config_4' installing the font packages has not added new paths. |
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| 00:33.46 | Blissex | ma3x: and also do '(umask 0002 && fc-cache -v)' |
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| 00:33.59 | Blissex | ma3x: did you install DeFoMa? |
| 00:34.04 | ma3x | Blissex, there is some kind of error in xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 |
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| 00:34.12 | ma3x | it lists the help menu |
| 00:34.14 | Blissex | ma3x: which error? |
| 00:34.25 | dli | can I stop atd for a minimum debian system? |
| 00:34.33 | ma3x | Blissex, xset: unknown option /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 |
| 00:34.55 | Blissex | ma3x: ah yes, put a comma between the two dir paths. |
| 00:35.06 | lobomufas | dli: yep, so if you need something to program actions you will need atd or cron |
| 00:35.10 | blackout | is there a good place to figure out the status of the new compaq presario's v2311us's support under debian? |
| 00:35.29 | dli | lobomufas, I have cron running now |
| 00:35.30 | blackout | i've tried linuxlaptop.org, but could only get a spanish site and a site obviously not for that laptop |
| 00:35.37 | ma3x | Blissex, xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 ? |
| 00:35.41 | dli | lobomufas, I just want to stop atd |
| 00:35.49 | lobomufas | dli: you don't need atd then |
| 00:35.50 | Blissex | without the space. |
| 00:36.05 | Blissex | ma3x: xset fp+ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 |
| 00:36.05 | welson | Tomy, if you have subnets that should share one gateway, why are there three UG lines? |
| 00:36.10 | chealer | blackout: *try* tuxmobil.org |
| 00:36.18 | dli | lobomufas, thanks |
| 00:36.22 | ma3x | xset: bad font path element (#72), possible causes are:Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions, Directory missing fonts.dir , Incorrect font server address or syntax |
| 00:36.24 | abrotman | there's a $VAR you can use that run-parts will send the email to someone other than root .. right ? .. is it $MAILTO ? |
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| 00:36.54 | dli | lobomufas, I suppose I don't need inetd either |
| 00:36.55 | stew | abrotman: run-parts doesn't send email |
| 00:37.00 | stew | abrotman: cron does, man cron |
| 00:37.07 | blackout | chealer, no luck. |
| 00:37.11 | abrotman | stew: i realize that .. but if you put a script in cron.daily .. run-parts is what runs it .. |
| 00:37.12 | blackout | chealer, already tried that one too |
| 00:37.16 | abrotman | stew: you mean .. man 5 cron :) |
| 00:37.21 | Tomy | welson: one for each subnet (two) plus a default gw? |
| 00:37.24 | abrotman | stew: you mean .. man 5 crontab |
| 00:37.38 | ma3x | Blissex, it's giving that error I pasted |
| 00:37.44 | stew | abrotman: no i mean man cron |
| 00:37.48 | stew | cron(8) |
| 00:37.49 | abrotman | stew: man cron doesn't mention the env vars |
| 00:37.55 | Blissex | ma3x: dont worry about that. |
| 00:38.06 | chealer | blackout: if you really want an answer, there's probably no good place |
| 00:38.14 | stew | abrotman: cron(8) mentions MAILTO on this etch system |
| 00:38.20 | abrotman | stew: i read it .. that's why i was asking .. it doesn't mention $MAILTO or any other env var |
| 00:38.20 | dli | abrotman, can I stop inetd for a minimum debian system? |
| 00:38.21 | lobomufas | dli: mmm, i'm not sure if there's something more dependent on inetd |
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| 00:38.26 | abrotman | stew: not on sarge |
| 00:38.35 | Blissex | ma3x: paste to pasteBin.com the output of 'xset q' now |
| 00:38.43 | stew | abrotman: sorry. its MAILTO btw |
| 00:38.45 | abrotman | stew: i lied |
| 00:38.48 | kelan | it's double wide, it cannot hide its pride, it's double-u |
| 00:38.52 | abrotman | stew: i just didn't see it |
| 00:39.12 | abrotman | stew: and man 5 crontab mentions others |
| 00:39.13 | welson | Tomy, 10.20.1.0 10.20.254.13 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 ra1 |
| 00:39.13 | blackout | chealer, darn - thanks |
| 00:39.22 | dli | lobomufas, fingerd, lftp, netbase |
| 00:39.23 | welson | Tomy, what I'm seeing are not machines A,B,C |
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| 00:39.42 | ma3x | Blissex, http://pastebin.com/332476 |
| 00:40.21 | Tomy | welson: yes, you see a whole subnet.. and? |
| 00:40.28 | lobomufas | dli: no, i mean on the system booting, if you run all as daemons you don't need inetd for running nothing, so i don't know what could happen if you delete it |
| 00:40.32 | Blissex | ma3x: thats not right... |
| 00:40.46 | ma3x | Blissex, ? |
| 00:40.47 | dli | lobomufas, I don't have anything in inetd.conf |
| 00:40.54 | Blissex | ma3x: do you see a number of font files in both of '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1' |
| 00:41.12 | Blissex | ma3x: as in 'ls /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1' |
| 00:41.23 | welson | Tomy, so the address for machine 3 is? |
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| 00:41.27 | chealer | blackout: if you're lucky, you'll be able to figure out what's in the laptop |
| 00:41.28 | dondelelcaro | -bbbb *!~bojan*@*hstntx.swbell.net *!~suss@* *!~HG@* %*!~neoxan*@* |
| 00:41.29 | dondelelcaro | -bb %*!~knoppix@* %*!~root@* |
| 00:41.29 | dondelelcaro | +bbbb *!*bojan&@*hstntx.swbell.net *!*HG@* %*!*neoxan*@* %*!*knoppix@* |
| 00:41.37 | dli | lobomufas, the only problem is whether I can remove the package "netbase" |
| 00:41.44 | Tomy | welson: 10.20.3.1 .. |
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| 00:41.59 | chealer | blackout: if you're even more lucky, you'll be able to figure out the support for the individual components in it |
| 00:42.04 | ma3x | Blissex, ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType: No such file or directory |
| 00:42.07 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: we let knoppix@ speak now ? |
| 00:42.11 | abrotman | oh... nm |
| 00:42.26 | welson | Tomy, machine 2 10.20.2.1 and machine 1 10.20.1.1 ? |
| 00:42.31 | Blissex | ma3x: also something else is fishy: the error message you pasted above mentions the font path element #72, but the fonts path returned by 'xset q' has got half a dozen elements/ |
| 00:42.35 | chealer | blackout: if you're blessed, it will work as expected |
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| 00:42.44 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: did you mean to reset ban on suss@ also ? |
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| 00:42.52 | arango | how to create a 6-channel ogg vorbis from a DVD ? |
| 00:43.00 | Tomy | yeah.. but I've simplified the things at the begining, number three is actually in the middle.. |
| 00:43.02 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: no; that one didn't need to be readded. |
| 00:43.13 | Blissex | ma3x: and what about 'ls /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1'? |
| 00:43.15 | lobomufas | dli: it may cause more problems later if you install more packages, exim ie installs by default in inetd |
| 00:43.26 | dli | lobomufas, looks like I safely remove netbase according to the dpkg bot |
| 00:43.44 | ma3x | Blissex, it gives fonts |
| 00:43.47 | dli | lobomufas, I think I start exim from /etc/init.d/exim |
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| 00:43.54 | dli | lobomufas, I don't want exit :) |
| 00:44.00 | ma3x | Blissex, like 20 fonts and few directories |
| 00:44.03 | dli | lobomufas, I don't want exim :) |
| 00:44.14 | chealer | today I decided I was going to buy an Asus Z71A. if anybody has comments |
| 00:44.20 | ma3x | Blissex, I think easiest would be to reinstall x-window-system-core or what necessary is |
| 00:44.30 | lobomufas | dli: good choice hehe |
| 00:44.49 | Blissex | ma3x: paste to pasteBin.com the output of 'ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/' |
| 00:44.51 | lobomufas | dli: if you remove inetd and all goes well tell me, that interests me too :) |
| 00:45.00 | dli | lobomufas, right now, it still takes 16 MB for a base system, I want to push more |
| 00:45.09 | Blissex | ma3x: no, dont do that because that misses out a lot of useful things. |
| 00:45.11 | ma3x | Blissex, fonts.cache-1 msttcorefonts thryomanes ttf-junicode ttf-mgopen |
| 00:45.35 | Blissex | ma3x: OK, all the fonts are there but the paths should have been added to the X server. |
| 00:45.39 | dondelelcaro | dli: it's not like you need to install exim anyway; it just wants a mail-transport-agent, and exim is the default one. |
| 00:46.06 | Blissex | ma3x: I can't imagine why 'xset q' lists half a dozen directories and 'xset fp+ ...' says entry #72 is wrong. |
| 00:46.08 | welson | Tomy, so I have no clue what we're referring to if you're simplifying things... I don't know what we're actually referring to then.. |
| 00:46.18 | Blissex | ma3x: are you sure you don't have a remote X situation? |
| 00:46.31 | ma3x | Blissex, what's remote X station? |
| 00:46.45 | lobomufas | dli: a custom kernel will help too |
| 00:46.45 | Blissex | ma3x: are you running X applications on the same host as the server? Just a single PC, no network access? |
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| 00:46.59 | welson | tsk |
| 00:47.10 | ma3x | Blissex, I run everything on one box |
| 00:47.18 | dli | lobomufas, already, no hotplug, no serial, no parallel, no audio, no graphic, no usb |
| 00:47.32 | ma3x | Blissex, I could add manually those directories to XF86Config-4 |
| 00:47.35 | dli | lobomufas, the vmlinuz is still 1.1 MB :( |
| 00:48.40 | petemc | Post a link to your proposed redesign of the site and if it's any good we'll use it. |
| 00:48.44 | petemc | Must run on linux and work well in firefox, flash is acceptable but only on the proviso that it can fall back to a non flash version if a visitor does not have the flash plugin. |
| 00:48.47 | petemc | Thanks!!shit |
| 00:48.49 | petemc | sorry |
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| 00:49.16 | Blissex | ma3x: just to make sure, 'apt-get install defoma defoma-doc psfontmgr' |
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| 00:49.25 | dli | lobomufas, it boots up properly, and I got network :) so netbase is not required :) |
| 00:49.28 | Blissex | ma3x: and let me know if they were already installed or not. |
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| 00:49.48 | ma3x | Blissex, they were installed and updated successfully |
| 00:49.50 | lobomufas | mmm, fine, I must try with my firewall box |
| 00:49.51 | Tomy | welson: http://tomislav.raseta.net/wtf.gif :)) |
| 00:49.55 | Blissex | ma3x: there are a bit too many directories to add, as by Default uses a directory per font, usually. |
| 00:50.00 | daedalus_ | petemc: what website? |
| 00:50.09 | petemc | daedalus_: ignore that |
| 00:50.22 | lobomufas | dli: I suppose you don't have support for unuseful file systems, etc, no? |
| 00:50.27 | dli | lobomufas, and the basic system uses 6 MB memory |
| 00:50.39 | daedalus_ | petemc: well, I figured that much. Was just curious. |
| 00:50.41 | dli | lobomufas, no, not even ext2, since I'm on ext3 |
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| 00:50.58 | Tomy | welson: refresh it.. |
| 00:51.18 | petemc | daedalus_: www.bogginzine.com, if you're that curious :) |
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| 00:51.58 | welson | Tomy, to verify, now using this picture, so 3 can ping 2 and 1 correct? |
| 00:52.14 | welson | Tomy, but its 2 that can't ping 3.. |
| 00:52.16 | Blissex | ma3x: ok, in the interests of testing, do this: |
| 00:52.25 | Tomy | yeah! |
| 00:52.34 | dli | lobomufas, it was 16 MB, and it's only 6 MB now. already satisfied my side |
| 00:52.47 | lobomufas | dli: you can take a look to lfs docs, I suppose with a basic lfs+services you need you can make a really small system |
| 00:52.56 | lobomufas | so thats a little paranoid hehe |
| 00:53.18 | errorlevel | In debian, after I create a kernel-image .deb and install it, do I need to keep my kernel source directory or can my entire /usr/src be empty? (/usr/src/linux is where I have the kernel source) |
| 00:53.25 | ma3x | Blissex, yes? |
| 00:53.33 | welson | Tomy, why bother with router tables for 1, if #3 is supposed to do that job.. |
| 00:53.43 | dli | lobomufas, I see, if I can get it within 1 MB, ... |
| 00:53.48 | welson | Tomy, what's ra0 ? |
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| 00:54.33 | Blissex | ma3x: wait... testing it. |
| 00:54.33 | lobomufas | welson: software raid device |
| 00:54.43 | ma3x | ok... |
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| 00:55.19 | welson | Tomy, if ra0 is an interface on #3, it makes no sense to draw the diagram like that.. unless they're referring they have a device with a name like in their router table |
| 00:55.19 | Tomy | welson: network interface.. think of it as eth0 if it helps :) |
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| 00:55.52 | welson | Tomy, nah, you should make your diagrams clear, I have no idea where ra0 is lying.. |
| 00:56.01 | welson | Tomy, is ra0 on #3? |
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| 00:56.20 | UnKnowN_ | can any of you code scripts well? |
| 00:56.22 | arango | how to create a 6-channel ogg vorbis from a DVD ? |
| 00:56.44 | Blissex | ma3x: find /usr/share/fonts/{truetype,type1}/* -type d | xargs -n1 echo xset fp+ | sh |
| 00:56.54 | UnKnowN_ | I need it for a website |
| 00:56.58 | welson | UnKnowN_, coding scripts is really not that difficult-- scripting its called is even easier.. |
| 00:57.03 | UnKnowN_ | :D |
| 00:57.10 | UnKnowN_ | welson can you help me with doing it? |
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| 00:57.22 | ma3x | Blissex, that gave a lot of errors |
| 00:57.25 | welson | UnKnowN_, send me $$ to paypal..of course, np. |
| 00:57.29 | ma3x | starting with find: /usr/share/fonts/type1/*: No such file or directory |
| 00:57.30 | UnKnowN_ | :D |
| 00:57.37 | UnKnowN_ | welson what do you charge :P |
| 00:57.37 | Blissex | ma3x: thats fine about that. |
| 00:57.41 | Tomy | welson: ra0 on 3 connects to ra0 on 2 (same subnet, 10.20.253.x), ra 1 on 3 connects to ra0 on 1 (10.20.254.x).. |
| 00:57.45 | welson | UnKnowN_, 5$ a script.. |
| 00:57.52 | UnKnowN_ | You making that up |
| 00:57.58 | Blissex | paste again the output of 'xset q' please |
| 00:58.08 | UnKnowN_ | Its the most simple script |
| 00:58.13 | UnKnowN_ | I've tried doing it already |
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| 00:58.22 | kelan | UnKnowN_: what do you want it to do |
| 00:58.23 | UnKnowN_ | Just had trouble with the number generator |
| 00:58.37 | gdog | Say, has anyone here had any luck installing the Nvidia drivers under Debian for AMD64? |
| 00:58.37 | UnKnowN_ | Im generating numbers randomly as possible |
| 00:58.49 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 00:58.49 | dpkg | amd64 is, like, See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 00:58.52 | UnKnowN_ | So the server cant detect im doing it |
| 00:59.03 | UnKnowN_ | Im using 30 seperate computers |
| 00:59.21 | kelan | i don't get it |
| 00:59.25 | litage_ | how does one set a common $PATH for all users? when i open a new console, $PATH isn't set to what i specified in /etc/profile |
| 00:59.27 | UnKnowN_ | Off course I've turned into a virus like script now |
| 00:59.32 | kelan | are you trying to spam a site? |
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| 00:59.39 | UnKnowN_ | But specified only to those places |
| 00:59.44 | welson | Tomy, ok so paste router table for #3 unmodified this time.. |
| 00:59.46 | redguy | UnKnowN_: it seems that what you are doing is evil |
| 00:59.47 | UnKnowN_ | Not a hostile one |
| 00:59.51 | ma3x | Blissex, can I remove x-window-system-core? |
| 00:59.53 | UnKnowN_ | No no |
| 00:59.57 | UnKnowN_ | its not a hostile virus |
| 01:00.11 | Blissex | ma3x: more or less, but there is no point. |
| 01:00.15 | UnKnowN_ | I aimed it at my university to control them all at the same time :P |
| 01:00.25 | UnKnowN_ | Just part of the lab |
| 01:00.28 | kelan | litage_: PATH can also be affected by your .bash_profile or .bashrc |
| 01:00.32 | Tomy | http://pastebin.ca/19591 |
| 01:00.35 | kelan | if you use bash, that is |
| 01:01.09 | Blissex | ma3x: BTW, if you look at the KDE settings font selection dialog, do you see now a lot more fonts? |
| 01:01.10 | litage_ | kelan: that has to be specified on a per-user basis though..how can i set it for all users? |
| 01:01.40 | UnKnowN_ | lol |
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| 01:01.56 | ma3x | Blissex, nope |
| 01:01.59 | kelan | litage_: i'm telling you why the variable might not equal exactly what is in /etc/profile. if the user has something modifying it in their .bashrc/profile |
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| 01:02.26 | Blissex | ma3x: also, in 'Appearance & Themes' you should see apart from 'Fonts' also 'Gtk Styles and Fonts' |
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| 01:02.44 | PhunkSta_ | I've installed gdm and my mouse still does not work, are there some config files i need to edit or is there a config script i can run someplace to fix this problem? |
| 01:02.47 | gdog | Say, does alioth.debian.org resolve for y'all? |
| 01:02.47 | welson | Tomy, you know to simplify things you can always create a virtual host ip for #2 and #1.. so that you don't have to create a destination network x.x.x.25x.x .. |
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| 01:02.54 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: what kind of mouse ? |
| 01:02.57 | Blissex | ma3x: and you should set 'Use my KDE ....' for both style and fonts. |
| 01:03.01 | kelan | gdog: not for me |
| 01:03.06 | PhunkSta_ | 3 button scroll wheel |
| 01:03.07 | litage_ | kelan: ah, thanks =) |
| 01:03.09 | PhunkSta_ | memorex |
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| 01:03.22 | gdog | I am trying to install the Debian AMD64 port, and the howto is located on alioth.debian.org, but I can't get to the server because it won't resolve. |
| 01:03.23 | PhunkSta_ | ps/2 |
| 01:03.26 | ma3x | Blissex, it's already selectd |
| 01:03.27 | abrotman | gdog: no .. ask #debian-amd64 .. they might have a mirror |
| 01:03.29 | abrotman | !2.6mouse |
| 01:03.31 | Blissex | ma3x: did you run (umask 0002 && fc-cache -v)? |
| 01:03.39 | gdog | abrotman: okay |
| 01:03.41 | abrotman | !tell PhunkSta_ about 2.6 mouse |
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| 01:03.53 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: dmesg | grep mouse .. see it ? |
| 01:04.07 | Tomy | welson: actually, i use a 255.255.255.252 always, and it's an optimal solution |
| 01:04.15 | ma3x | yes |
| 01:04.29 | ma3x | I'm now removing x-window-system-core |
| 01:04.33 | welson | Tomy, that should only be used among 1-to-1 not for network though.. |
| 01:04.49 | welson | Tomy, (peer-2-peer).. |
| 01:05.02 | Tomy | welson: this is a dedicated p2p link.. :) |
| 01:05.23 | litage_ | kelan: my ~/.bashrc doesn't mention $PATH, so it's not modifying the $PATH from /etc/profile .. |
| 01:05.34 | Blissex | ma3x: also, as a check, run 'fc-list | egrep 'Andale|Georgia|Verdana' | sed 's/:.*//' | sort -u', what's the output like? |
| 01:05.35 | kelan | litage_: what about .bash_profile |
| 01:05.51 | PhunkSta_ | abrotman no that generates no output |
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| 01:06.10 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: did you compile your own kernel ? |
| 01:06.18 | PhunkSta_ | no i did not |
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| 01:06.28 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: see what dpkg said about a 2.6 mouse |
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| 01:06.45 | bleh^2 | are the any docs on how to build a custom exim4 daemon package? |
| 01:07.02 | litage_ | kelan: all mentions of $PATH in ~/.bash_profile are commented out |
| 01:07.11 | kelan | here in higglytown, things all jump around, just like the higglytown heroes |
| 01:07.16 | welson | Tomy, you're last .xx in the diagram are reversed for the node #3.. |
| 01:07.18 | kelan | hmm |
| 01:07.50 | kelan | litage_: what is the difference between yours and the one in /etc/profile |
| 01:08.02 | welson | Tomy, so are pinging their own subnet #'s (according from #3's eye) ok? |
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| 01:08.29 | PhunkSta_ | I followed the procedure dpkg gave but alas, modprobe psmouse, and modprobe mousedev, doesn't locate anything |
| 01:08.45 | welson | Phated, try the mouseconfig package |
| 01:08.50 | PhunkSta_ | don't not doesn't |
| 01:08.53 | welson | PhunkSta_, there's a mouse package |
| 01:09.06 | PhunkSta_ | gdm? |
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| 01:09.21 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: uname -a says what ? |
| 01:09.26 | dvs | gpm? |
| 01:09.29 | welson | Tomy, so are pinging their own subnet #'s (according from #3's eye) ok? |
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| 01:09.45 | abrotman | !gmp |
| 01:09.46 | dpkg | No, you fuck-wit, it's gpm. |
| 01:09.46 | Tomy | welson: yap |
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| 01:09.48 | abrotman | :) |
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| 01:09.57 | Tomy | welson: only 2 can't get to 1.. |
| 01:10.01 | kelan | e eats everything |
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| 01:10.15 | welson | Tomy, in other words, on machine #1, ping 10.20.254.13 is ok ? |
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| 01:10.19 | PhunkSta_ | yeah gpm |
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| 01:10.47 | welson | PhunkSta_, so use gpmdata as the device for x |
| 01:11.00 | thingfish | hey, chimay is a delicious ale - good nick. |
| 01:11.00 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: uname -a says what ? |
| 01:11.10 | nlg | ~/clear |
| 01:12.01 | welson | Tomy, same for #3 and #2 onto themselves? |
| 01:12.04 | kelan | z's only eatin' e's |
| 01:12.07 | PhunkSta_ | abrotman Linux phunkBx 2.2.20-idepci #1 then the time and date |
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| 01:12.15 | abrotman | holy fuck |
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| 01:12.20 | nlg | My console freezes while using a SMP kernel in unstable. Anyone familiar with this problem? |
| 01:12.26 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: what kind of CPU do you have ? |
| 01:12.32 | PhunkSta_ | i586 |
| 01:12.32 | dvs | ouch! |
| 01:12.41 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: how long ago did you install this system ? |
| 01:12.52 | PhunkSta_ | uhm 2 days ago |
| 01:12.55 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 01:12.56 | litage_ | kelan: my ~/.bash_profile only does 1 thing: execute ~/.bashrc, whereas /etc/profile sets $PATH, $PS1, and umask |
| 01:12.56 | abrotman | bah |
| 01:12.57 | kelan | heh |
| 01:13.00 | welson | nlg, well maybe its the getty, try an ssh session.. |
| 01:13.01 | dpkg | [d-i] the new installer for Debian 3.1 (Sarge). You ARE installing Sarge and not Woody, right? See http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer |
| 01:13.01 | abrotman | !d-i PhunkSta_ |
| 01:13.02 | dvs | PhunkSta_: That sounds like woody |
| 01:13.02 | dpkg | PhunkSta_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:13.07 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: use that image .. |
| 01:13.14 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: you have broadband right ? |
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| 01:13.16 | kelan | litage_: i mean whats the difference between your $PATH and the one set in /etc/profile |
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| 01:13.44 | redguy | Tomy: did you paste the routing table for #2 as well? |
| 01:13.48 | PhunkSta_ | yes broadband indeed |
| 01:14.01 | Tomy | welson: #1 can ping every damn IP adress, #3 also, #2 can ping itself, it's link and subnet under #3.. but nothing in 10.20.254.x or 10.20.1.x.. |
| 01:14.04 | PhunkSta_ | I am running woody right now |
| 01:14.14 | abrotman | PhunkSta_: don't do that :) |
| 01:14.16 | abrotman | !d-i PhunkSta_ |
| 01:14.17 | dpkg | PhunkSta_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:14.25 | PhunkSta_ | ahahah |
| 01:14.26 | dvs | PhunkSta_: Get sarge! |
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| 01:14.48 | litage_ | kelan: ":/usr/local/lib/jdk/bin" is missing from the end of $PATH: http://rafb.net/paste/results/spQ8uX55.html |
| 01:14.48 | PhunkSta_ | of course.... |
| 01:15.07 | Tomy | redguy: nope, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/19592 |
| 01:15.23 | PhunkSta_ | thanks guys |
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| 01:15.33 | welson | Tomy, maybe you want to look into #1 then.. |
| 01:15.38 | nlg | welson, Hm, I really have no idea... some guys on the debian buglist pointed out that it may be related to a netboot choice wether a ps2 or a usb attached keyboard is used |
| 01:15.51 | welson | Tomy, see some esoteric settings in the router for #1.. |
| 01:15.55 | dvs | PhunkSta_: We're impressed that you got woody to install though |
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| 01:16.15 | welson | nlg, ? |
| 01:16.16 | PhunkSta_ | haha, well as long as I've impressed someone |
| 01:16.20 | PhunkSta_ | :P |
| 01:16.22 | gravity | dude, boot-floppies isn't that bad |
| 01:16.28 | nlg | welson, However it probably works if I switch to using a USB-keyboard.. and the network is up and running |
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| 01:16.48 | Tomy | welson: I'll look into it some other time.. it's 3:15 AM here |
| 01:17.07 | abrotman | boot floppies rule |
| 01:17.08 | Tomy | and I'm too tired even to go wall-banging |
| 01:17.17 | welson | nlg, you're on unstable... you have to know what you're doing if you're on unstable, otherwise don't bother.. |
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| 01:17.39 | welson | Tomy, I think it sounds like something in for #1.. TTL /metric? |
| 01:17.41 | nlg | welson, erhm. I was just asking |
| 01:18.00 | welson | nlg, that wasn't asking... that's playing around.. don't play here |
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| 01:18.22 | kelan | litage_: don't know what it could be then. sorry |
| 01:18.25 | Tomy | welson: man, if you ever come to Croatia, we go on one of these: http://tomislav.raseta.net/glad/, thanx for trying to help.. |
| 01:18.29 | litage_ | kelan: thanks for your help |
| 01:18.46 | gravity | "don't play here"? wtf is up with that? |
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| 01:19.07 | nlg | welson, well, thanks anyways. I did ask however |
| 01:19.08 | gravity | nlg: Play all you want. But what he said about unstable is true. You're on your own more or less. |
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| 01:19.52 | kelan | it thinks it's king, its all time favorite thing is double-u |
| 01:20.07 | nlg | Yes, but you see the reason I asked was because I was reading the debian buglist and wanted to see if anyone happend to have the same problem... or if someone had some updates on the matter. |
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| 01:20.40 | abrotman | !tell thechris about root |
| 01:20.48 | litage_ | kelan: when i `su -` to root, $PATH isn't missing anything, but when i open up a new konsole, $PATH is missing the 1 new path i added to it. does that help the problem solving at all? |
| 01:21.04 | abrotman | hrm .. will we have to fix apt to see N=root instead ? |
| 01:21.22 | kelan | whats with the N= thing? |
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| 01:21.46 | FieldySnuts | who knows. I have I= |
| 01:22.02 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: why is that ? |
| 01:22.08 | FieldySnuts | i have no idea |
| 01:22.24 | kelan | litage_: does it happen if you open i terminal besides konsole? although, you may not have any others installed |
| 01:22.37 | nicklessa | survey on voip apps : which one works with just a microphone and speaker and sound card |
| 01:23.15 | litage_ | kelan: the same happens in xterm |
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| 01:24.01 | kelan | litage_: is your shell bash? |
| 01:24.24 | litage_ | kelan: `echo $SHELL` says /bin/bash |
| 01:24.58 | kelan | litage_: i can't think of anything else that would be run just from opening a shell, and would remove the end of the path |
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| 01:25.38 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: that is pretty damn confusing |
| 01:26.28 | aedwards | Folks, is there a open source package to control scsi tape libraries. Particularly I need a utility that can send commands to the changer to change to a particular tape. I am able to write to the tapes but I have to load the drive using the buttons on the front of the unit? |
| 01:26.34 | litage_ | kelan: any idea why konsole/xterm wouldn't execute /etc/profile? |
| 01:26.39 | kelan | with all the letters gone the spelling-bee was canceled, science teachers had their hands full, english classes could not be complete |
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| 01:27.38 | kelan | litage_: maybe /etc/profile is only used if a user-specific .bash_profile doesn't exist? you could try renaming it and see |
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| 01:27.52 | thechris | anyone know how to use cdrecord to burn a debian install cd? |
| 01:27.56 | thechris | i get errors |
| 01:28.03 | abrotman | errors like what ? |
| 01:28.11 | thechris | pg6 deosn't exist |
| 01:28.19 | abrotman | say what ? |
| 01:28.22 | andax | is it possible to create around 300 mount --bind stuff on a linux machine? i mean, is there a limit about this? |
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| 01:28.28 | thechris | /dev/pg6 does not exist |
| 01:28.57 | dvs | thechris: What command are you using to burn the ISO? |
| 01:29.04 | djcolz | hi |
| 01:29.08 | thechris | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.08 | litage_ | kelan: root has ~/.profile which only does 2 things: execute /root/.bashrc, and source /etc/profile ... but non-root users don't have ~/.profile |
| 01:29.09 | abrotman | wtf is pg6 ? |
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| 01:29.21 | thechris | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg6'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
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| 01:29.29 | dvs | thechris: You don't need the -pad option for starters |
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| 01:29.40 | abrotman | is it a scsi drive ? |
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| 01:29.43 | thechris | the command was taken directly from debian.org |
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| 01:29.56 | dvs | thechris: Why 0,6,0? |
| 01:30.02 | pzn | I installed dovecot-imapd. now I want to create an imap folder for an user and fill it with messages (from backups). anyone knows how? |
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| 01:30.17 | abrotman | thechris: is it a SCSI drive ? |
| 01:30.18 | dvs | thechris: do cdrecord -scanbus to see what device you should use |
| 01:30.21 | thechris | 0,6,0 was listed at debian.org |
| 01:30.27 | thechris | it is a normal ata device |
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| 01:30.43 | thechris | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 01:30.44 | dvs | thechris: but it is valid on YOUR system |
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| 01:31.00 | marcel_ | the kde 3.4 factoid from dpkg, is out of date? |
| 01:31.07 | thechris | i can burn data cd's in k3b, but k3b crashes if i try ISO's |
| 01:31.15 | kelan | litage_: right, for regular users its called '.bash_profile'. you could try renaming that to something else temporarily, open a terminal, and see if you have the $PATH from /etc/profile |
| 01:31.19 | marcel_ | http://www.ppcnux.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5432 |
| 01:31.34 | dvs | thechris: I think the "0,6,0" is not right for your system |
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| 01:31.54 | abrotman | marcel_: out of date how ? |
| 01:32.00 | thechris | i agree, but there isn't any obvious help on that one |
| 01:32.05 | chealer | ohoho, X.org built on all arches :) |
| 01:32.11 | dvs | thechris: cdrecord -scanbus |
| 01:32.13 | abrotman | but it is on ppc ithink |
| 01:32.18 | thechris | man cdrecord seems to assume you know where it is |
| 01:32.32 | thechris | cdrecord -scanbus gives an error -- no /dev/pg* |
| 01:32.39 | kelan | litage_: i don't know why that would make a difference, though. the bash manpage says /etc/profile gets read regardless of the existence of a user-specific one |
| 01:32.52 | litage_ | kelan: hrmmm, i be confused =( |
| 01:32.53 | dvs | thechris: cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA |
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| 01:33.34 | marcel_ | abrotman: Have a look at the url i posted |
| 01:33.41 | thechris | ok, that lists it as 1,0,0... but cdrecord still fails at no /dev/sg* |
| 01:33.46 | kelan | litage_: what i was trying to get at was that maybe for some reason bash wasn't reading /etc/profile if you had ~/.bash_profile. but that shouldn't be the case anyway. |
| 01:33.56 | dvs | thechris: Then use 1,0,0 for the dev= parameter |
| 01:33.57 | chealer | marcel_: when debian has 3.4, it will be outdated |
| 01:34.10 | litage_ | kelan: i renamed /home/nick/.bash_profile but /etc/profile still wasn't sourced/executed |
| 01:34.24 | abrotman | marcel_: i did |
| 01:34.27 | litage_ | kelan: my /etc/profile is chmod'd 644. is that correct? |
| 01:34.30 | steini | dev=1,0,0 |
| 01:34.35 | marcel_ | Right |
| 01:34.50 | abrotman | !info kdelibs sid |
| 01:34.54 | thechris | dev=1,0,0 failed: no /dev/sg* |
| 01:35.02 | dpkg | kdelibs: (KDE core libraries metapackage), section libs, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-7 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 44 kB |
| 01:35.07 | abrotman | !info kdelibs experimental |
| 01:35.11 | thechris | dev=ATAPI:1,0,0 failed -- fatal error |
| 01:35.12 | dpkg | kdelibs: (core libraries from the official KDE release), section libs, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.1-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 72 kB |
| 01:35.20 | steini | usuall /dev/scd* |
| 01:35.24 | abrotman | marcel_: that link is all kinds of wrong |
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| 01:35.39 | abrotman | marcel_: my recommendation is to run gnome instead ... :) |
| 01:35.53 | thechris | btw, sorry for not using names, but i'm in twm and don't have autocompletion... some names are white on a white BG... |
| 01:36.04 | abrotman | twm supports nick complete? |
| 01:36.12 | abrotman | thechris: pick another client? |
| 01:36.17 | abrotman | thechris: you're using bitchx? |
| 01:36.22 | kelan | litage_: yes, i think so. you could try putting something in /etc/profile to tell you if its getting read. like a line that just echoes "IN /ECT/PROFILE" |
| 01:36.28 | thechris | i'm using irssi |
| 01:36.35 | thechris | i usually use konversation |
| 01:36.39 | kelan | *ETC |
| 01:36.43 | thechris | but i can only run X11 apps as root... |
| 01:36.45 | abrotman | irssi-text has nick complete |
| 01:36.57 | abrotman | try hitting tab |
| 01:37.00 | litage_ | kelan: i exported $ASDF from /etc/profile but $ASDF was not set when i opened a new konsole, so /etc/profile isn't being sourced |
| 01:37.08 | kelan | hmm |
| 01:37.09 | RvGaTe | what font was used for the debian logo ? |
| 01:37.12 | thechris | i can't see the first letters of some of the names |
| 01:37.17 | kelan | litage_: maybe bash hates you? |
| 01:37.23 | abrotman | thechris: are you using xterm ? |
| 01:37.24 | stew | !wikifaq litage_ DotFiles |
| 01:37.25 | dpkg | litage_: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 01:37.30 | litage_ | kelan: thought about it. more than likely |
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| 01:37.33 | kelan | heh |
| 01:37.33 | thechris | like abrotman, ah, just had to copy and paste |
| 01:37.38 | litage_ | thanks |
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| 01:37.47 | thechris | < abrotman> -- i am using xterm |
| 01:37.51 | thechris | in twm |
| 01:37.57 | mrgenixus | hello, I have a broken package that won't be fixed by apt-get remove purge && apt-get install |
| 01:37.59 | steini | is it okay to run make modules_install after one have done dpkg -i when compiling a kernel? |
| 01:38.04 | mrgenixus | how do I fix the package? |
| 01:38.05 | abrotman | thechris: i've used irssi in xterm many times .. always worked fine |
| 01:38.20 | thechris | your name comes up yellow on white and is unreadable |
| 01:38.23 | kelan | RvGaTe: googling for "debian logo font" gives some good hits |
| 01:38.41 | abrotman | thechris: sounds like a bad character encoding |
| 01:38.47 | litage_ | kelan: when i su into my usual user, ~/.bash_profile is executed/sourced, but it isn' when i just open a konsole |
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| 01:39.01 | steini | to be shure that modules installs into kernel boot |
| 01:39.06 | litage_ | kelan: so maybe i should just make ~/.bashrc source ~/.bash_profile, and also have ~/.bash_profile source /etc/profile |
| 01:39.07 | thechris | in anycase i can't seem to burn the iso |
| 01:39.18 | litage_ | yechhh reminds me of spaghetti |
| 01:39.31 | kelan | litage_: oh! profile is only read for login shells |
| 01:39.41 | litage_ | kelan: ah :) |
| 01:40.13 | litage_ | so i should set $PATH separately for login shells and [local?] terminals? |
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| 01:40.32 | Rynkan | Hi there/here ;) |
| 01:40.44 | kelan | litage_: well you don't need to. next time you login, the /etc/profile will get read, and you'll have that additional portion in the PATH |
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| 01:41.10 | litage_ | kelan: "the next time i login" as in login to xdm? |
| 01:41.11 | steini | cdrecord -v dev= 1,0,0 speed=8 zzzz.iso |
| 01:41.16 | thechris | ok, i was on a different VC and saw none o the last messages |
| 01:41.20 | kelan | litage_: yeah, i think so |
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| 01:41.38 | litage_ | awesome possum. thanks a bundle for your help, i really appreciate it |
| 01:41.38 | Rynkan | I want to mount my ipod but don't know haw to adress the device to like /dev/usbX :S |
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| 01:41.53 | abrotman | !ipod |
| 01:41.53 | dpkg | [ipod] a purty silver and white or black box, definitely not bigger tha a bread box. Would be better if it supported some non-encumbered formats. apt-get install gtkpod, or see http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alinux1394.org+ipod for proof that it really does work under linux. |
| 01:41.56 | kelan | litage_: np. glad we finally figured it out |
| 01:42.03 | litage_ | :) |
| 01:42.16 | litage_ | Rynkan: i believe it's /dev/sda2 |
| 01:43.02 | Rynkan | oki |
| 01:43.03 | thechris | ha, tricked k3b. now i can write |
| 01:43.05 | kelan | is it true that the 'wheel' on the ipod does not actually spin? it just senses the pressure of your finger as you move it around the wheel? |
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| 01:43.08 | thechris | just couldn't use qt |
| 01:43.14 | thechris | file selector |
| 01:43.21 | Rynkan | kelan: yes |
| 01:43.22 | litage_ | kelan: it depends which generation of the ipod you have |
| 01:43.40 | litage_ | kelan: the first gen had a physically moving wheel. the rest use touch sensors |
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| 01:44.11 | kelan | i guess with touch sensors, there are less moving parts to have fail |
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| 01:44.54 | steini | does anyone know if it is ok to do make modules_install after dpkg -i when copiling a kernel? |
| 01:44.55 | RvGaTe | thx kelan |
| 01:44.58 | litage_ | kelan: yeah, but i find the touch wheel sensor to be a pain. the feedback from a click wheel is very useful, because you know how many lines you moved |
| 01:45.05 | abrotman | !tell steini about kp |
| 01:45.16 | kelan | RvGaTe: no problem |
| 01:45.34 | Scorpaen | !tell Scorpaen about kp |
| 01:45.51 | kelan | litage_: did the moving wheel actually give tangible clicks? |
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| 01:46.54 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: still around ? |
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| 01:47.13 | Rynkan | hmm getting this error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, |
| 01:47.13 | Rynkan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.13 | Rynkan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.14 | Rynkan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:47.16 | litage_ | kelan: i believe so |
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| 01:47.38 | Rynkan | opps :S |
| 01:47.54 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ? |
| 01:47.55 | dvs | !tell Rynkan about paste |
| 01:48.11 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: bluefox83 msg'ed me .. he is +q .. do you know why? .. sorry to bother you |
| 01:48.12 | litage_ | kelan: with an ipod, you have to look at it to know how far you've moved the selection, whereas with something like a nomad zen, you can just stick your hand in your pocket and move the jog dial and you know exactly where you are |
| 01:49.02 | dubski | hi, I have a problem creating users in gnome/users and groups. seems the home folders don't get setup with the neccessary files and the users can't log into X. is there some docs on this or does anyone have some tips? |
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| 01:49.30 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: he's out of luck then? |
| 01:49.39 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: I'm looking into it. |
| 01:49.43 | abrotman | don_inlab: oh ok |
| 01:50.02 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ^ |
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| 01:51.34 | keenan | is there a text-mode web browser that works with utf8 locales? |
| 01:51.53 | keenan | lynx, links, and elinks all have rendering bugs in en_US.UTF-8 |
| 01:52.04 | abrotman | links2 ? |
| 01:52.37 | keenan | that won't install on unstable |
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| 01:52.57 | fas3r | hi all |
| 01:53.08 | abrotman | keenan: that's the price of using unstable :) |
| 01:54.16 | keenan | yeah, i'll check links2 out as soon as it becomes installable again |
| 01:54.35 | abrotman | keenan: or figure out why the othres are broke :) |
| 01:54.58 | jdhutchin1 | dubski, have you tried adduser? |
| 01:55.01 | keenan | it looks like they just insist on using the wrong box-drawing characters |
| 01:55.17 | keenan | which confuses ncurses if they're the wrong length |
| 01:55.24 | mtnman | i see. did you get my phone msg? |
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| 01:56.22 | mwilson | ok, whyinhell is emacs-snapshot-gtk bringing in emacs21? |
| 01:56.37 | RvGaTe | http://pc.rvgate.nl/rvgate/index2.php <- how's that? :) |
| 01:57.06 | SimonRaven | because the deps for say css-mode dep on emacs21 |
| 01:57.09 | fas3r | do you know if they are a configuration file for the command "mail"? |
| 01:57.21 | mwilson | SimonRaven: Hm? |
| 01:57.22 | SimonRaven | and the menus are fucked on the gtk one |
| 01:57.58 | SimonRaven | you click, it comes down, and they disappear (/me needs to file the bug report still) |
| 01:58.00 | abrotman | fas3r: man mail ? |
| 01:58.06 | mwilson | SimonRaven: The *current* emacs-snapshot-gtk works, and is 22.x... now that it's uploaded, it deps on 21.x? hat makes no sense. |
| 01:58.20 | SimonRaven | mwilson: no, the add-ons do |
| 01:58.29 | fas3r | abrotman i have readit but it dont specify... |
| 01:58.38 | SimonRaven | that's what i was saying |
| 01:58.46 | mwilson | Just because it's now uploaded to unstable? That makes no sense. |
| 01:58.59 | dubski | jdhutchin1: am trying that now... i think the gui app i was using is broken |
| 01:59.04 | errorlevel | I can't wait until emacs hits 1.0! =) |
| 01:59.05 | SimonRaven | fas3r: go downb to the bottom, and look for FILES it should say if it does or not |
| 01:59.06 | abrotman | fas3r: bullshit |
| 01:59.12 | SimonRaven | mwilson: no no. |
| 01:59.18 | abrotman | fas3r: ALL OF IT ... READ IT ALL! |
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| 01:59.50 | PhunkSta_ | Fingers crossed, time for the big install |
| 02:00.16 | mwilson | SimonRaven: I'm not finding the dep on emacs21 |
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| 02:00.30 | kelan | abrotman: why not just read the first sentence or two and give up? |
| 02:00.36 | kelan | :) |
| 02:00.54 | martman_ | when i try to remove bind 9 i get |
| 02:00.55 | martman_ | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly |
| 02:01.01 | SimonRaven | mwilson: ok, say you want css-mode (some emacs mode module), if you want to run it, the deps for css-mode pull in emacs21, and dpkg/apt don't see that the emacs-snapshot provides it (or should, and the Provides: wasn't set) |
| 02:01.06 | abrotman | kelan: cause i'm lazy? |
| 02:01.13 | kelan | heh |
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| 02:01.24 | SimonRaven | Depends: emacs21 | emacsen |
| 02:01.35 | SimonRaven | Package: css-mode |
| 02:01.39 | kelan | abrotman: but see, fas3r is lazy too |
| 02:01.44 | mwilson | SimonRaven: Uh, you're ascribing way too much to apt. |
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| 02:01.56 | mwilson | I also don't have any modes installed. |
| 02:02.02 | SimonRaven | Provides: emacs-snapshot, emacsen, editor, info-browser, mail-reader, news-reader |
| 02:02.14 | SimonRaven | it should be seeing that, but it isn't |
| 02:02.19 | fas3r | lol i dont thinK... |
| 02:02.22 | SimonRaven | Package: emacs-snapshot-gtk |
| 02:03.08 | Fluten | I have a folder with lots of files in it, and when i do "rm -f *", it says "bash: /bin/rm: The argumentlist is too long". I found a command that erases all the files with no kernel compilation that is "find . -name "*" -print | xargs rm -fv", but i have some files that begin with a "-". What would i have to do to get the command to work with those files? |
| 02:03.11 | mwilson | apt-cache redpends says all the snapshot packages dep on emacs21-nox, but I don't see it on p.d.o. |
| 02:03.12 | SimonRaven | mwilson: then i don't know |
| 02:03.15 | dondelelcaro | !provides emacs-snapshot-gtk |
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| 02:03.18 | dpkg | emacs-snapshot-gtk: emacs-snapshot, emacsen, editor, info-browser, mail-reader, news-reader |
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| 02:03.37 | gdog | Say, is there an X.org x-windows server available in Debian stable? If so, what is the name of the package? |
| 02:03.46 | mwilson | gdog: No. |
| 02:03.48 | jdhutchin1 | gdog, no, there isn't |
| 02:03.50 | SimonRaven | no |
| 02:03.55 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: by default it will install the first pacakge listed in the Dependency list; but if you've already got the other package installed, that will satisify the dependency (unless it's versioned) |
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| 02:03.56 | SimonRaven | never will be either |
| 02:04.00 | jdhutchin1 | gdog, /msg dpkg xorg for more info |
| 02:04.01 | xenoduck | Fluten: cd ..; rm -rf foldername; mkdir foldername |
| 02:04.01 | gdog | mwilson: okay, thanks |
| 02:04.09 | chealer | !x windows |
| 02:04.09 | dpkg | It's X dammit!, or ask me about x windows trap. A) The X Window System. B) X |
| 02:04.15 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: oh yes yes. that's right |
| 02:04.28 | tnks | hi all. The "automatically installed" record-keeping that Aptitude does is really neat, but where is this information stored? |
| 02:04.29 | mwilson | feh... don't care about emacs anyway. |
| 02:04.43 | dubski | jdhutchin1: cheers adduser did the trick. |
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| 02:05.06 | Fluten | xenoduck, i have a directory in the folder i want to keep, which is why i am not using an r |
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| 02:05.29 | SimonRaven | tnks: dpkg does it too. can't recall if it's enabled by default or not. /var/log as usual |
| 02:06.01 | kelan | Fluten: do you want to keep everything in that directory, too, or just the directory itself? |
| 02:06.08 | gimper | got a q on gimp, but the gimp group is asleep. can i raise it here? |
| 02:06.18 | chealer | dpkg: no, x windows is <reply> It's X dammit! A) The X Window System. B) X |
| 02:06.18 | dpkg | okay, chealer |
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| 02:06.26 | xenoduck | Fluten: Oh. See the "-type f" and "-exec" flags to find. |
| 02:06.56 | pfizur | So |
| 02:06.58 | pfizur | My people |
| 02:07.01 | tnks | SimonRaven, /var/log? I think we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about Aptitude's 'markauto' and 'unmarkauto' commands. |
| 02:07.11 | pfizur | I have a question regarding z'mirroring of a server |
| 02:07.14 | pfizur | or perhaps clustering |
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| 02:07.32 | *** mode/#debian [-lb %+q!*@*] by dondelelcaro |
| 02:07.32 | *** mode/#debian [-f] by dondelelcaro |
| 02:07.38 | SimonRaven | oh that shit. it's internal.... RTFM, i have NFC |
| 02:07.39 | *** mode/#debian [-b %bluefox83!*@*] by dondelelcaro |
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| 02:07.56 | *** mode/#debian [+f #debian-overflow] by dondelelcaro |
| 02:07.58 | pfizur | I have 2 identical server. I want to keep them in sync as much as possible |
| 02:08.11 | pfizur | all mail, all sites, always on both servers |
| 02:08.13 | pfizur | suggestions? |
| 02:08.16 | sussudio | in soviet russia, chickens have you, then deepfry you for mass consumption. |
| 02:08.20 | pfizur | A good answer gets a bottle of wine |
| 02:08.28 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: oh, do you still need to set +F too? |
| 02:08.32 | kelan | what does a bad answer get? |
| 02:08.38 | SimonRaven | sussudio++ |
| 02:08.45 | mwilson | I hate 0-day BSP's... |
| 02:08.54 | abrotman | sussudio: i prefer mine baked |
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| 02:09.08 | gdog | Say, does it ever seem to anyone here that simply being proficient in all the debian installation, configuration, and utilities in itself is a difficult achievement? |
| 02:09.10 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: did you finally find out why he had been +q'ed ? |
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| 02:09.24 | pfizur | hmm |
| 02:09.28 | pfizur | bad answers gets boot to the head |
| 02:09.30 | SimonRaven | shake and bake: dance around, high on pot |
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| 02:09.59 | SimonRaven | gdog: no |
| 02:10.07 | mfrisch | SimonRaven :)~ |
| 02:10.10 | pfizur | And bad answers are those which include rsync |
| 02:10.58 | FieldySnuts | ~troll pfizur |
| 02:10.58 | apt | ACTION hereby declares pfizur a troll |
| 02:11.00 | kelan | pfizur: are both servers active, or is one just a backup server |
| 02:11.05 | FieldySnuts | funny. we use rsync to do all our backups, kid. |
| 02:11.15 | SimonRaven | gdog: 'no', meaning 'it isn't difficult to install or configure debian' |
| 02:11.16 | pfizur | I'm a troll? |
| 02:11.18 | pfizur | That stinks |
| 02:11.32 | SimonRaven | no you do, you're the troll, remember? :P |
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| 02:11.36 | pfizur | hmm |
| 02:11.39 | pfizur | confused |
| 02:11.39 | abrotman | gdog: not really .. it's pretty easy |
| 02:11.42 | SimonRaven | *grin* |
| 02:11.43 | FieldySnuts | @ff pfizur |
| 02:11.45 | ravenbird | pfizur: fartfish |
| 02:11.45 | pfizur | mind you all I've already had a good amount of wine |
| 02:11.58 | pfizur | <- easily confused |
| 02:12.04 | pfizur | Was only kidding about rsync |
| 02:12.06 | SimonRaven | ...when high on wine |
| 02:12.17 | pfizur | Both boxes are always on |
| 02:12.31 | pfizur | I just want to make sure if the main box goes down everyones mail and sites are in both places |
| 02:12.40 | pfizur | I don't want to be a troll |
| 02:12.46 | pfizur | Can I be a hobbit? |
| 02:12.50 | gdog | SimonRaven: I agree that the installation is easy. But I'm talking about stuff like all the dpkg-... utilities, like make-kpkg, baseconfig, hrm, basically just all the debian utilties that are specific to debian. There are a lot of them. I wish there was some place I could find a list of all of them so that I could truly understand all the programs on the debian system. |
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| 02:13.24 | SimonRaven | gdog: just take your time. you can't learn everything at once, your head will implode |
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| 02:14.01 | SimonRaven | implode into a black hole, and drag everything around you into it, never seen again in this multiverse |
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| 02:14.18 | mfrisch | gdog coffee is your friend |
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| 02:14.25 | SimonRaven | hehehe |
| 02:14.28 | jetx | 480? |
| 02:14.36 | SimonRaven | that help implosion prevention |
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| 02:14.46 | jetx | dang it's empty |
| 02:14.50 | SimonRaven | must be under a net split |
| 02:14.51 | RvGaTe | just noticed my server is 1 hour ahead of me... pffff |
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| 02:15.12 | dondelelcaro | jetx: well, most of it is because everyone got kicked off last night |
| 02:15.29 | daedalus_ | dondelelcaro: meanie. |
| 02:15.33 | daedalus_ | ;) |
| 02:15.41 | SimonRaven | i wonder where my cloak disapeared to |
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| 02:15.49 | SimonRaven | pp* |
| 02:15.50 | pfizur | The troll stole it |
| 02:15.52 | jetx | vlad stole it |
| 02:15.52 | pfizur | :) |
| 02:15.54 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 02:16.04 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i have mine! .. and some N= .. . i wonder if i'm NP complete |
| 02:16.06 | pfizur | mwa ha ha ha |
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| 02:16.24 | SimonRaven | the N= means what the ~ meant |
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| 02:16.33 | nvz | yeah whats with that change stuff :P |
| 02:16.42 | nvz | I thought that was what the test server was for |
| 02:17.03 | abrotman | SimonRaven: uhm .. ok |
| 02:17.04 | astronut | what's the standard fat32 partition type? |
| 02:17.04 | SimonRaven | the I= just means that identd was contacted and found the user |
| 02:17.15 | abrotman | what was ~ ? |
| 02:17.17 | astronut | 0B, 0C or 0F |
| 02:17.30 | astronut | that no ident was found |
| 02:17.32 | SimonRaven | just another way to show whether or not the user was found |
| 02:17.43 | astronut | abrotman: timeout or closed port for ident |
| 02:17.49 | pfizur | htmph |
| 02:17.57 | tdela | I follow the doc on kernel.org to recompiling a custom kernel, i rebooted and im still on the old one and the kernel was not listed in the GRUB menu, what can I do/did I do? |
| 02:18.05 | Fluten | hmm, there seems to be less people here than normally. arent there usually over 600? |
| 02:18.12 | abrotman | astronut: guess i never noticed |
| 02:18.13 | astronut | Fluten: no |
| 02:18.18 | astronut | abrotman: guess soo |
| 02:18.19 | SimonRaven | Fluten: see above, what dondelelcaro said |
| 02:18.28 | mfrisch | tdela you need to update grub |
| 02:18.44 | tdela | mfrisch: oh? how do i update grub, i just the lazy way "make install" |
| 02:19.00 | astronut | what's the format util? makefs? |
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| 02:19.38 | mfrisch | tdela I am lazy and use lilo, someone here should help. |
| 02:19.46 | tdela | Oh. |
| 02:19.56 | tdela | How do I update GRUB for my new kernel? |
| 02:20.05 | astronut | what's the format util in linux? thought it was makefs? |
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| 02:20.23 | abrotman | astronut: mkfs.<blah> |
| 02:20.28 | astronut | d'oh |
| 02:20.34 | astronut | no wonder tab complete broke |
| 02:20.41 | abrotman | tdela: update-grub;grub-install ? |
| 02:22.04 | tdela | ahh lets try |
| 02:22.04 | tdela | brb |
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| 02:27.06 | secher | Heyas all. I just installed xpdf, and to me it seems to be a bit lacking. Can someone recommend a PDF reader? |
| 02:27.25 | abrotman | gpdf |
| 02:27.37 | abrotman | i think there's a kde one too .. nfc what it is |
| 02:27.37 | Roburd | on a sarge x86 installation from cd, is 4Gb ram automatically detected and kernelized on an amd64 machine or do I have to enable the kernel to use the RAM on my own? |
| 02:27.43 | abrotman | !pdf |
| 02:27.43 | dpkg | [pdf] Pretty Dumb Format, or the Portable Document Format created by Adobe to replace PS for use with Acrobat or viewable with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, adobe reader (free download, but closed source and old) or gv/gnome-gv. use ps.gz instead! |
| 02:27.52 | astronut | when using mkfs, etc and such on sda1...i should have popped my h key jsut to be sure |
| 02:28.03 | astronut | eh? |
| 02:28.05 | saw8 | kpdf is really good in kde 3.4 if you are using that |
| 02:28.05 | astronut | not old |
| 02:28.11 | abrotman | astronut: say what? |
| 02:28.13 | astronut | they just released a linux version of the latest reader |
| 02:28.15 | astronut | it's very good |
| 02:28.26 | astronut | adobe reader (free download, but closed source and old) |
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| 02:28.37 | astronut | not free-libre, but good |
| 02:28.44 | astronut | it's in the marralait archive |
| 02:28.52 | abrotman | marillat |
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| 02:29.13 | astronut | i knew something was doubled there |
| 02:29.39 | bigred | anybody here have any idea why my debian server install randomly crashes under heavy load? |
| 02:29.45 | secher | abrotman: cool, thanks.. Was looking at that. WOn't use closed source software, but gpdf I'll try. It's just that my PHP/MySQL book has the text in PDF format, so I'm kind of forced to use it unless i want to lug the book around. Thanks all for the suggestions. |
| 02:29.59 | jetx | !log |
| 02:29.59 | dpkg | Yeah, big guy, show me your /var/log!, or "It's /var/log, /var/log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! It's /var/log, /var/log, it's better than bad it's good!" |
| 02:30.00 | bigred | nothing shows in the logs, no error messages, everything just stops responding |
| 02:30.16 | jetx | heat? |
| 02:30.36 | abrotman | secher: there are also apps to convert pdf to other formats |
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| 02:31.32 | secher | abrotman: really. Have to look into that as well. Thanks man. |
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| 02:31.54 | RvGaTe | i feel so stupid :( cant figure out how to change the time on my server... (maybe its becouse its 4.31 am) |
| 02:32.06 | kelan | RvGaTe: date |
| 02:32.10 | secher | man date. is easy. |
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| 02:32.20 | RvGaTe | pfff |
| 02:32.30 | RvGaTe | thx, now i can speal in peace :P |
| 02:32.36 | RvGaTe | sleap |
| 02:32.37 | martman_ | ok, apt is royal scewed up it seems, i keep get errors, most recent |
| 02:32.38 | RvGaTe | sleep |
| 02:32.38 | martman_ | E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error) |
| 02:32.38 | martman_ | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 02:32.56 | martman_ | i think all the packages should be check along with there deps |
| 02:33.02 | martman_ | any way i can do this? |
| 02:33.20 | secher | RvGaTe: sleep, while a waste of time is an unfortunate requirement of a corporeal existance. |
| 02:33.49 | RvGaTe | secher: ehmm... ok... whatever |
| 02:34.09 | secher | I hate to sleep. |
| 02:34.09 | martman_ | anyone? |
| 02:34.18 | abrotman | !tell RvGaTe about ntp |
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| 02:35.05 | RvGaTe | abrotman: good one |
| 02:35.06 | RvGaTe | thx |
| 02:35.21 | RvGaTe | now lets see if i can manage to type in those commands |
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| 02:35.49 | abrotman | RvGaTe: did i fart ? |
| 02:36.05 | RvGaTe | abrotman: dont know, cant smell it yet |
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| 02:36.49 | secher | abortman, no, I did, and you're all lucky you're not here. Unfortunately, my fiancee is not so lucky. I pity her dreams for the next 5 minutes. <grin> |
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| 02:37.11 | abrotman | secher: just pray you don't wake her with it |
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| 02:38.14 | xerophyte | Does anybody know how can i make thumpnail with gimp ? |
| 02:38.26 | abrotman | you can .... |
| 02:38.31 | martman_ | anyone? |
| 02:38.35 | abrotman | imagemagick might be better |
| 02:38.50 | xerophyte | abrotman, just wanna make one |
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| 02:39.18 | secher | wow. I have a PBS special on the Bomb for light, and it's.... frightening.. water burns, rock evaporates <shudder> And that's only the little ones. Sorry, OT, just really.. wow. |
| 02:39.22 | dondelelcaro | convert -scale '25%' a.jpg a_thumb.jpg; or similar. |
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| 02:39.51 | abrotman | xerophyte: use the Image menu .. there's a scale image .. don't overwrite the original |
| 02:40.06 | abrotman | secher: my friends are on CMT tonight :) |
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| 02:40.28 | bigred | ok, I'm gonna crash this thing again, which log files should I clear out for failure determination? |
| 02:40.29 | secher | abrotman: cmt? country music channel? |
| 02:40.45 | abrotman | secher: yeah .. but it's a show about weird small towns or something .. they are folk singers |
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| 02:41.09 | whitespace | How do I add a user to the audio group? |
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| 02:41.23 | abrotman | !tell whitespace about audio |
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| 02:41.54 | abrotman | adduser <username> audio |
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| 02:42.03 | secher | abrotman: Dude, I dig folk. Guthrie, Seeger, Baez, McKennitt, Rogers, and so on. |
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| 02:42.24 | abrotman | secher: what part of the country are you in ? |
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| 02:42.47 | bleh^2 | how do I get the info on a .deb? things like file lists, dependencies etc |
| 02:42.56 | abrotman | bleh^2: man dpkg |
| 02:42.56 | secher | abrotman: SE Pa. I'm gonna miss the Philly Folk fest this year. |
| 02:42.56 | whitespace | abrotman, thanks |
| 02:43.00 | dondelelcaro | bleh^2: by using dpkg-deb |
| 02:43.03 | abrotman | !phillysmite secher |
| 02:43.06 | bleh^2 | don: thanks |
| 02:43.11 | abrotman | secher: so am i .. i work in KoP .. |
| 02:43.20 | abrotman | secher: http://www.vanwagnermusic.com/ |
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| 02:43.25 | dondelelcaro | bleh^2: things like dpkg-deb -c foo.deb; dpkg-deb -I foo.deb; man dpkg-deb for details. |
| 02:43.32 | secher | WOOT!! Nice! We rank.. Dude, msg me with your name.. I live in Royersford. |
| 02:43.54 | bleh^2 | dondel: yeah. see that. whee :) |
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| 02:44.07 | abrotman | secher: uhm ... i live in the 'kill zone' |
| 02:44.19 | TigerTjader | i'm trying to install Debian using the network installation |
| 02:44.40 | TigerTjader | but the atp can't resolve the server address |
| 02:44.41 | abrotman | TigerTjader: and ? ... |
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| 02:44.42 | martman_ | Reading Package Lists... Error! |
| 02:44.42 | martman_ | E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error) |
| 02:44.42 | martman_ | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 02:44.43 | bleh^2 | looks like my custom exim4 package got built ok |
| 02:44.50 | martman_ | ^^^ all apt gives me now |
| 02:44.51 | abrotman | atp ? |
| 02:45.05 | TigerTjader | what do I have to do to review my network settings? |
| 02:45.45 | abrotman | not dhcp ? |
| 02:45.49 | TigerTjader | nope |
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| 02:46.24 | dad | any reason to have 6 kjournald processes running? |
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| 02:46.37 | bleh^2 | 6 partitions using journaling? |
| 02:46.38 | abrotman | you're writing really fast! |
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| 02:46.49 | dad | hmmm perhaps |
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| 02:47.10 | dad | yea, ok |
| 02:47.16 | dad | thanks |
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| 02:47.21 | bleh^2 | np :) |
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| 02:47.37 | martman_ | anyone? |
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| 02:48.08 | Psycho | FIrst time Debian Linux user (installed it two days ago). |
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| 02:48.33 | Psycho | Screen won't let me select higher than 800 x 600. How can I fix this? |
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| 02:48.56 | abrotman | screen? |
| 02:48.59 | abrotman | screen is text |
| 02:49.14 | Psycho | screen in graphical (KDE) |
| 02:49.15 | abrotman | oh wait .. you don't mean the program screen :) |
| 02:49.25 | abrotman | !drxx Psycho |
| 02:49.25 | dpkg | Psycho: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:49.31 | Psycho | correct...looking for resolution |
| 02:49.42 | TigerTjader | abrotman: what do I have to do? |
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| 02:50.19 | abrotman | TigerTjader: what is atp ? |
| 02:50.33 | Psycho | Do I type that in under a "Run command" or terminal window? |
| 02:51.07 | TigerTjader | in the network installation there's a step callet "Configure atp" |
| 02:51.18 | TigerTjader | in it I chose http |
| 02:51.27 | abrotman | wtf is atp ? |
| 02:51.29 | abrotman | !atp |
| 02:51.29 | dpkg | ping pta |
| 02:51.38 | abrotman | dpkg: you're useless |
| 02:51.55 | TigerTjader | well, tell me what do I have to do to review my network settiongs? |
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| 02:52.23 | TigerTjader | I want to check if i did'n't mistyped anything |
| 02:52.30 | TigerTjader | didn't* |
| 02:52.35 | plb | dpkg: wanker |
| 02:52.35 | dpkg | wanker is, like, giving the palm pilot a flight, massaging Kojak's head. Fuck, someone pass me the tissues. |
| 02:52.55 | bleh^2 | me beats dpkg up. the new package provides that too damnit |
| 02:53.22 | plb | dpkg: slashdot |
| 02:53.24 | dpkg | Slashdot Headlines (8 of 10): Yahoo Passes Google in Total Items Searched ;; Linux Passes the Microsoft WGA Test ;; Could IBM Shake up the Search Engine World? ;; Quantum Information Can be Negative ;; It isn't Easy Being Green and Getting to LEO ;; Establishing an IT Budget for a Small Business? ;; Epicrealm Uses Vague Patents to sue Web Sites ;; Infosec Career Hacking. |
| 02:53.29 | abrotman | TigerTjader: you're doing a PXE install .. boot floppy install .. what ? |
| 02:53.53 | TigerTjader | http://www.nl.debian.org/CD/netinst/ <-- this one |
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| 02:54.12 | secher | apt you rock. |
| 02:54.12 | apt | secher: thanks |
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| 02:55.05 | abrotman | TigerTjader: i've done quite a large number of netinst .. i have no idea what Configure ATP is ... |
| 02:55.17 | abrotman | TigerTjader: have you partitioned the drive etc ? |
| 02:55.22 | TigerTjader | sorry, it's apt |
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| 02:55.35 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:55.37 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:55.47 | TigerTjader | i have done it until it tells me to take off the cd |
| 02:55.49 | abrotman | TigerTjader: ok .. so did it ask you to configure your network ? |
| 02:55.56 | TigerTjader | yep |
| 02:56.04 | abrotman | TigerTjader: you've already rebooted ? |
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| 02:56.19 | TigerTjader | and i put there an IP, the gateway, dns, subnet mask, etc |
| 02:56.32 | TigerTjader | I rebooted about ten times already :p |
| 02:56.41 | abrotman | TigerTjader: can you login ? |
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| 02:56.54 | TigerTjader | no |
| 02:57.06 | bluefox83 | test |
| 02:57.08 | bluefox83 | yay! |
| 02:57.19 | abrotman | bluefox83: pay attention .. and thank don :) |
| 02:57.27 | bluefox83 | i was afk |
| 02:57.35 | bluefox83 | thank you dondelelcaro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:57.43 | abrotman | !tell bluefox83 about ep |
| 02:57.54 | bluefox83 | heh, sorry |
| 02:57.59 | bleh^2 | oh ffs |
| 02:58.03 | RvGaTe | is it possible keep a printjob counter? (active jobs, completed jobs) |
| 02:58.23 | bleh^2 | how can I use dpkg to replace one package with another where they both provide and conflict with the same thing? |
| 02:58.30 | bluefox83 | don't see why why not O.o |
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| 02:58.34 | abrotman | they conflict for a rewason |
| 02:58.36 | TigerTjader | abrotman: how can I change debian's network configs? |
| 02:58.45 | abrotman | TigerTjader: you have no dhcp ? |
| 02:58.49 | bleh^2 | abrot: yes. to make sure that both can't be installed at the same time. |
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| 02:58.53 | bluefox83 | bleh^2, dpkg --force-overwrite <newpackage> |
| 02:58.54 | TigerTjader | nope |
| 02:58.56 | bleh^2 | abrot: I want on to replace the other |
| 02:58.59 | bluefox83 | oops |
| 02:59.01 | bluefox83 | it's |
| 02:59.10 | bluefox83 | bleh^2, dpkg --force-overwrite -i <newpackage> |
| 02:59.13 | bluefox83 | :D |
| 02:59.22 | abrotman | bleh^2: apt-get install <pkg> |
| 02:59.30 | bleh^2 | blue: bope. didn't work |
| 02:59.36 | bleh^2 | abrot: package is on the local hd |
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| 02:59.49 | RvGaTe | TigerTjader: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:59.50 | bluefox83 | bleh^2, what package is it? |
| 02:59.52 | abrotman | TigerTjader: when you install .. it will ask you if you want to configure the network .. that's when you do it ... before you reboot |
| 02:59.57 | bleh^2 | aha |
| 03:00.03 | TigerTjader | I did it |
| 03:00.03 | bleh^2 | i think I know what caught it |
| 03:00.06 | abrotman | !nicktab |
| 03:00.06 | dpkg | Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles. For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one. |
| 03:00.20 | TigerTjader | but I want to check the configs, maybe I mistyped something |
| 03:00.24 | martman_ | Reading Package Lists... Error! |
| 03:00.26 | bleh^2 | looks like a bug in the exim4 custom build script |
| 03:00.29 | martman_ | E: Read error - read (5 Input/output error) |
| 03:00.32 | martman_ | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 03:00.35 | martman_ | ^^^ all apt gives me now |
| 03:00.46 | abrotman | TigerTjader: you'd have to be able to login |
| 03:00.46 | RvGaTe | TigerTjader: ifconfig to see the current settings of your interface |
| 03:00.51 | bluefox83 | O.o |
| 03:00.53 | bluefox83 | that was odd |
| 03:01.15 | bluefox83 | bleh^2, i don't know how to fix that..sorry |
| 03:01.28 | bleh^2 | blue: I do. thanks though :) |
| 03:01.43 | TigerTjader | ifconfig showed mme the IP and the subnet mask, these are right :) |
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| 03:02.29 | abrotman | so what can't you configure with apt ? |
| 03:02.36 | TigerTjader | but I still can't ping my router |
| 03:02.48 | TigerTjader | and apt can't resolve the hostname |
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| 03:02.53 | RvGaTe | ah |
| 03:02.55 | abrotman | TigerTjader: so you can login ? |
| 03:02.56 | Psycho | xfree86 says largest curor is 800x600. How can I modify this to 1024 x 768? |
| 03:02.59 | RvGaTe | hosts problem |
| 03:03.11 | apropos | anyone know where I can find a kernel-image package that supports megaraid w/o modules? |
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| 03:03.34 | TigerTjader | no, but there's an option to open a command prompt in the installation menu |
| 03:03.37 | apropos | for my loverly dell server that I've been working on alllllllll day? |
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| 03:04.23 | RvGaTe | TigerTjader: so you are currently working on your debian machine... and you cant access the router... |
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| 03:04.41 | TigerTjader | yes RvGaTe |
| 03:04.42 | abrotman | TigerTjader: look in /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 03:04.50 | abrotman | err |
| 03:04.54 | RvGaTe | network |
| 03:04.55 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 03:04.55 | abrotman | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:05.00 | Lord-Cereburus | hey abrotman :) been a while lol |
| 03:05.02 | Lord-Cereburus | how have you been? |
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| 03:05.27 | abrotman | Lord-Cereburus: tired! |
| 03:05.33 | Lord-Cereburus | :P |
| 03:05.33 | xfan | what do you think about the new Windows Vista ? |
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| 03:05.40 | abrotman | xfan: wrong channel |
| 03:05.45 | RvGaTe | haha |
| 03:06.00 | RvGaTe | you really want an answer to that xfan? |
| 03:06.08 | abrotman | No |
| 03:06.14 | ShauvonM | ok, so I compiled my new kernel, how do I get Grub to load it? |
| 03:06.15 | abrotman | not here .. take it to #windows |
| 03:06.34 | TigerTjader | it says /etc/network/interfaces doesn't exist |
| 03:06.37 | xfan | no, its a joke ;) |
| 03:06.44 | TigerTjader | i'm in /etc/network |
| 03:06.51 | RvGaTe | TigerTjader: its not a dir |
| 03:06.57 | Lord-Cereburus | its a file |
| 03:07.00 | TigerTjader | ah |
| 03:07.15 | TigerTjader | how do I open it? |
| 03:07.22 | RvGaTe | nano |
| 03:07.25 | RvGaTe | or pico |
| 03:07.27 | Lord-Cereburus | vi, nano, emacs, your choice of text editor |
| 03:07.34 | RvGaTe | i prefer nano |
| 03:07.40 | Lord-Cereburus | same |
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| 03:07.56 | abrotman | cat |
| 03:07.58 | abrotman | less |
| 03:07.58 | TigerTjader | it has a line "network xx.xx.xx.xx" |
| 03:07.59 | abrotman | more |
| 03:08.00 | stew | /usr/bin/editor is the best |
| 03:08.04 | gravity | I'm honestly always amazed to find people who don't use either vim or emacs to edit everything |
| 03:08.05 | TigerTjader | what do I put there? |
| 03:08.07 | abrotman | TigerTjader: you have to SHOW us those lines .. |
| 03:08.17 | abrotman | exactly as they are typed in |
| 03:08.22 | Xenguy | gravity: vim is better =) |
| 03:08.39 | TigerTjader | starting in "auto eth0"? |
| 03:08.39 | abrotman | gravity: i use nvi :) |
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| 03:09.09 | TigerTjader | iface eth0 inet static |
| 03:09.14 | TigerTjader | address 10.0.0.98 |
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| 03:09.20 | TigerTjader | netmask 255.0.0.0 |
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| 03:09.25 | Scorpaen | i've got the 2.6.12.4 kernel. i've selected in menuconfig the proper driver for my card. when i run alsaconf it says it's can't find the card. the sound system appears to be running in kde but seems to be muted although i've played with kmix quite a bit and can't get any sound out of it. |
| 03:09.26 | TigerTjader | network 10.0.0.1 |
| 03:09.26 | RvGaTe | gravity: abrotman: first i share the folder using samba, then i go ti windows and use notepad to edit it :P |
| 03:09.29 | TigerTjader | network 10.0.0.0* |
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| 03:09.47 | TigerTjader | broadcast 10.255.255.255 |
| 03:09.51 | abrotman | RvGaTe: you don't run notepad.exe in wine .. you're such a loser :) |
| 03:09.53 | TigerTjader | gateway 10.0.0.1 |
| 03:09.54 | apropos | why on earth isn't megaraid in the debian kernels? Dells are everywhere. |
| 03:10.02 | TigerTjader | commented line |
| 03:10.14 | TigerTjader | dns-nameservers 10.0.0.1 |
| 03:10.27 | RvGaTe | abrotman: pssst |
| 03:10.36 | TigerTjader | that's it |
| 03:10.44 | apropos | it's enough to make a person use suse, or something. |
| 03:10.52 | abrotman | there's a start after 10.0.0.0 ? |
| 03:10.55 | abrotman | err star |
| 03:11.02 | TigerTjader | nope |
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| 03:11.17 | kelan | does anyone know how to get the Keep command to work in aptitude? the menu option and hotkey (:) don't seem to work |
| 03:11.43 | abrotman | TigerTjader: /sbin/route -n |
| 03:11.51 | kelan | ok, i guess it works if you're on the right screen. weird |
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| 03:12.03 | TigerTjader | don't change the interfaces file? |
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| 03:13.09 | RvGaTe | thats it, this is way to late for me... im going to sleep and dream about hot sexy girls ill never get :( |
| 03:13.22 | gravity | Bah... that's loser talk |
| 03:14.09 | TigerTjader | destin-router-mask-options-metric-ref-uso-iface |
| 03:14.09 | TigerTjader | 10.0.0.0-0.0.0.0-255.0.0.0-U-0-0-0-eth0 |
| 03:14.09 | TigerTjader | 0.0.0.0-10.0.0.1-0.0.0.0-UG-0-0-0-eth0 |
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| 03:16.48 | abrotman | TigerTjader: that seems right |
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| 03:17.09 | TigerTjader | i changed the ip, it's rebooting now |
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| 03:20.30 | Linux_whore | What can I do to get internet working in Gentoo? I am using dsl. I did not change any of the settings during the install because I use automatic dhcp settings for my internet connection. |
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| 03:20.31 | TigerTjader | still can't ping the router |
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| 03:20.57 | Xenguy | o/~ peace? I hate the word... o/~ |
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| 03:22.12 | apropos | how do I boot from a megaraid device? I can't seem to compile the drivers as anything but modules. How does the kernel see the modules if it can't see the boot device? |
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| 03:23.28 | mrgenixus | why are only a few packages at a time being migrated to gcc4? why isn't the whole unstable branch being ported and then uploaded to the mirrors |
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| 03:24.35 | gravity | mrgenixus: The packages at the bottom of the dependency chain are being migrated first |
| 03:24.49 | gravity | mrgenixus: Then once a package has all its dependencies migrated, it can migrate itself |
| 03:24.49 | stew | apropos: did you compile scsi as a module and thats why its not letting you compile megaraid into the kenrel? |
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| 03:24.55 | mrgenixus | gravity: yes, so I've noticed, hy is it being done this way |
| 03:25.02 | apropos | stew: let me look |
| 03:25.08 | mrgenixus | in the mean time top-level programs are broken |
| 03:25.11 | gravity | mrgenixus: It's the only way to keep it sane |
| 03:25.26 | gravity | mrgenixus: Debian can't simply rebuild the archive. A lot of work has to be done by hand. |
| 03:25.31 | mrgenixus | gravity: but this can't all be done without affecting the mirrors? |
| 03:25.37 | gravity | mrgenixus: What do you mean? |
| 03:26.02 | mrgenixus | gravity: can't you set up an alternative store, and migrate the package tree, and then, move the whole tree to the mirrors |
| 03:26.11 | gravity | mrgenixus: Uh... that's what unstable *is* |
| 03:26.16 | gravity | mrgenixus: The alternate store |
| 03:26.19 | apropos | stew: thanks, that seems to fix that particular problem. |
| 03:26.22 | gravity | mrgenixus: If you want to be insulated from that, use testing |
| 03:26.28 | mosty | i |
| 03:26.30 | gravity | mrgenixus: Make sense? |
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| 03:27.21 | mosty | i'm trying to figure out how to use mpi cartesian topologies, is there an mpi function that will tell a particular process the "allocated" range of each dimension of the array on which the topology is defined? perhaps someone can point me at a channel where i'm more likely to find mpi coders? (#mpi and #mpich are empty) |
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| 03:27.39 | mrgenixus | well, yes |
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| 03:28.23 | mrgenixus | gravity: thanks for the explanation |
| 03:28.30 | gravity | mrgenixus: No problem |
| 03:28.58 | mrgenixus | gravity: It's juat hard having to do so many work-arounds to do a sane install of unstable |
| 03:29.13 | mrgenixus | gnome 2.10 is a pretty motivating reason to use unstable |
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| 03:29.44 | gravity | mrgenixus: It's not a huge issue for me. What's breaking for you so much? |
| 03:30.14 | mrgenixus | gksu, transcode failed to apt-get because of slang1 |
| 03:30.31 | mrgenixus | gksu is a known bug |
| 03:30.45 | sekio | mrxgenius, same for me |
| 03:30.53 | mrgenixus | everything else went pretty well, to be honest, we just fought the other prolems for a while |
| 03:31.11 | gravity | gksu? That's pretty minor... |
| 03:31.12 | mrgenixus | sekio: if you know someone with a working config file for gksu, you can load it, and then it will install right |
| 03:31.20 | mrgenixus | gravity: well, it blocks gdm |
| 03:31.26 | gravity | gdm works for me |
| 03:31.40 | mrgenixus | gravity: it may have been fixed already |
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| 03:31.49 | mrgenixus | gravity: as I said, it was a known bug |
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| 03:34.07 | gravity | mrgenixus: I haven't had a single issue with gdm in a long time |
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| 03:34.27 | Scorpaen | i have a strange problem with ALSA. when my computer boots i hear it init my speakers but i have no sound. |
| 03:34.33 | Scorpaen | alsaconf can't find my soundcard |
| 03:34.42 | Scorpaen | i have loaded the appropriate modules in my kernel |
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| 03:35.14 | mrgenixus | gravity: our install today refused to install gksu until we copied a config file from a working machine to /etc/gksu.conf on the balking machine |
| 03:35.53 | mrgenixus | gravity: we got a file missing or unreadable error, and then put a blank file in place and got different errors. |
| 03:35.53 | gravity | Hrm |
| 03:36.31 | jlmb | What does the "max" argument does on this line: password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 |
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| 03:37.23 | bsims | heh I am shocked and amazed I dist-upgraded Sid and nothing broke except for kdelibs but they have been broken for months |
| 03:37.42 | mrgenixus | the problems seem to effect new install more than upgrades, or files added to existing installs |
| 03:37.56 | gravity | That makes sense |
| 03:38.12 | mrgenixus | it does, becuase most of the dependencies already exist |
| 03:38.25 | mrgenixus | in the old versios that the top level pacakges expect to find |
| 03:38.48 | bsims | one thing that did break gimp-print was reciently replaced with gutenprint... you still need gimp-print to print from gimp... even with gutenprint drivers... I filed a bugreport |
| 03:38.50 | gravity | Well unstable is definitely in serious transition right now |
| 03:38.58 | gravity | For good reason. This stuff needs to get done. |
| 03:39.00 | mrgenixus | yeah, how longyou think that'll be? |
| 03:39.04 | gravity | No one knows |
| 03:39.10 | mrgenixus | ok |
| 03:39.23 | mrgenixus | thanks, see you later. need to go. |
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| 03:40.00 | arango | Does ogg vorbis support more than two channels (i.e. 5.1) ? |
| 03:40.05 | bsims | damn he left before I could mention the abi transition webpage in -devel's topic |
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| 03:40.49 | xb | is there some way to load "adduser xb audio" directly without having to "Log In" and "Log Out"? |
| 03:40.50 | Chromance | are there any linux based torrent sites around? |
| 03:41.50 | rob_lt | sounds nice bsims |
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| 03:42.16 | floppyears | xb: you can restart X. That usually will close all your apps and log you back in automatically though |
| 03:42.17 | psychonate | Chromance, there are a few? What are you looking for? |
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| 03:42.35 | Chromance | just anything that supports linux really!. |
| 03:42.40 | psychonate | Chromance, distros? Applications? |
| 03:42.46 | Chromance | both I guess |
| 03:42.59 | Chromance | maybe even a site with some ebooks |
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| 03:43.11 | bsims | rob_lt: want some? It's Wild Turkey |
| 03:43.23 | xb | floppyears, I know, but I want to load it with a command if its possible without having to log in again |
| 03:43.27 | GreyBear | does any one use the chating sit scribus |
| 03:43.44 | xb | can I do: adduser currentuser audio ? |
| 03:44.16 | bsims | rob_lt: Navy Rum makes my liver orgasm |
| 03:44.27 | GreyBear | does any one use the chatting site skype |
| 03:44.28 | psychonate | Chromance, don't know about ebooks. There was one torrent site that I used a while back, but I can't remember what it was anymore :(. Btw, "linux torrents" brings up some results in google |
| 03:44.42 | liable | xb: yes, then log out for it to take effect |
| 03:44.53 | bsims | Chromance: check on Uselessnet... |
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| 03:45.05 | Chromance | psychonate! thanks . and yah I tired that search. |
| 03:45.08 | Chromance | Uselessnet? |
| 03:45.12 | bsims | Usenet |
| 03:45.13 | rob_lt | Chromance: or try searching google for "linux filetype:torrent" |
| 03:45.20 | Eonn_ | guys is there an application that allows remote access to your computer via any webbrowser? |
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| 03:45.34 | xb | can I do: adduser currentuser audio does not work and that was the question |
| 03:45.44 | xb | hmm |
| 03:45.44 | bsims | Eonn_: there are java based ssh browsers |
| 03:45.50 | jlmb | What does the "max" argument does on this line: password required pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5 |
| 03:45.57 | xb | liable, adduser currentuser audio does not work |
| 03:46.06 | GreyBear | wut are u guys talking about |
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| 03:46.09 | liable | xb: and what does it say? |
| 03:46.21 | psychonate | Chromance, hmm, I think that the torrent site I was thinking of may not be around anymore heh |
| 03:46.21 | imaek | Does the debian installer support resizing partitions, or only reformatting? |
| 03:46.28 | jmd | Does anyone know what version of librt is in sid ? |
| 03:46.29 | xb | liable, adduser: The user `currentuser' does not exist. of course |
| 03:46.46 | Chromance | maybe not. |
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| 03:46.58 | Chromance | What KDE version is in debian 3.1? |
| 03:47.06 | liable | xb: well, duh, what do you think.. use your real username jeez.. |
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| 03:47.13 | Eonn_ | bsims: any names to these apps that you know of? |
| 03:47.14 | GreyBear | hey any body use skype |
| 03:47.22 | xb | liable, hehe, don't say yes then |
| 03:47.33 | bsims | Eonn_: Pan, slrn |
| 03:47.35 | jwaugh | Hello all, I have a debian / iPod related question. How do I mount my iPod to use with gtkpod? Sorry for the n00b question. |
| 03:47.43 | secher | Kk.. I;m trying to get php4 to work in apache. I need to add the line AddModule mod_php4 to the httpd.conf, however, I do not have that file. afaik, I apt-getted all appropriate php packages, and the lib_apache_php4 package as well. where am I goign wrong? |
| 03:47.51 | xb | liable, there shou |
| 03:48.12 | imaek | Does the debian installer support resizing partitions, or only reformatting? |
| 03:48.12 | xb | liable, there should be a command for this, I google it out |
| 03:48.13 | bsims | trn, rn, Emacs has its own but I cant remember teh name |
| 03:48.21 | GreyBear | wut r u guys talking about |
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| 03:48.35 | liable | GreyBear: stop repeating! |
| 03:48.44 | gravity | GreyBear: sex |
| 03:48.56 | GreyBear | liable then anwser |
| 03:48.58 | UnKnowN_ | !dpkg repeating GreyBear |
| 03:48.59 | Kvant | Chromance, 3.3.2 |
| 03:49.09 | Chromance | kvant , is that the newest |
| 03:49.22 | liable | GreyBear: no, I wont. |
| 03:49.27 | Chromance | 3.1 is still unstable version? |
| 03:49.32 | welson | secher, modules.conf? |
| 03:49.34 | liable | no, stable |
| 03:49.36 | Kvant | 3.1 is released |
| 03:49.39 | GreyBear | and u wonder y i repeat |
| 03:49.41 | jwaugh | Could anyone help me or point me in the right direction? |
| 03:49.42 | Chromance | k |
| 03:49.56 | liable | !u |
| 03:49.56 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:49.58 | Chromance | what kernal is the default in 3.1 |
| 03:50.01 | Jay | Is there a program to edit mpeg videos, such as cutting out sections and putting them back together? |
| 03:50.03 | secher | welson: I thought modules.conf was only for kernel modules.. |
| 03:50.07 | welson | secher, does var/www work? |
| 03:50.10 | Xenguy | !confuse GreyBear |
| 03:50.12 | dpkg | Yes, those are my weasel yesterday, GreyBear? lederhosen of the dictatorship of micronesia with extra herring |
| 03:50.22 | welson | secher, no, we're talking about modules for apache arent we? |
| 03:50.26 | Jay | If so, what are some good programs to do that? |
| 03:50.34 | welson | secher, /etc/apache |
| 03:50.41 | secher | welson, checking. |
| 03:50.44 | GreyBear | dpkg wut the hell |
| 03:50.45 | dpkg | somebody said wut was a lamer way of saying what |
| 03:50.51 | welson | secher, grep php /etc/apache/modules.conf |
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| 03:51.42 | jwaugh | Okay, guess nobody is going to answer my question about the iPod. Thanks. |
| 03:51.50 | stew | Chromance: 2.4.27-2 or 2.6.8-2 |
| 03:51.51 | secher | welson: found it.. the php docs apparently don't jive with Debian. Thanks! |
| 03:51.51 | welson | jwaugh, iPod sucks |
| 03:52.03 | jwaugh | What should I be using then? |
| 03:52.06 | welson | secher, so it works afterall *lol |
| 03:52.13 | jwaugh | Dell Jukebox? |
| 03:52.13 | Chromance | Stew , OH I get a choice? which choice is the best? |
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| 03:52.33 | GreyBear | retards |
| 03:52.45 | secher | welson: no, but now I know where to look and fix, thanks to your help. |
| 03:53.01 | stew | Chromance: if its newer hardware 2.6 otherwise probably doesn't matter much |
| 03:53.21 | stew | Chromance: might as well go with 2.6 |
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| 03:54.37 | welson | secher, if that's only it, you'd be dead wrong.. if the docs don't tell you, its because you're supposed to know where files are installed (dpkg -L packagename |less) |
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| 03:54.37 | Chromance | Anyone know where I can find a listing of support wireless cards for debian 3.1? |
| 03:54.53 | stew | Chromance: do you know what chipset your card uses? |
| 03:55.09 | meowsqueak | would someone kindly please send me their Debian Sid apt/source.list lines? Every one I try seems to have "broken package headers". |
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| 03:55.36 | Chromance | Well my current card uses the broadcom chipset which is a pain in the ass to setup! I want to buy a card thats supported right outta the box. No more pissing around. |
| 03:55.39 | welson | meowsqueak, sid is not meant to be "perfect" -- too bad |
| 03:55.40 | secher | welson: Kk, will remember, thanks again. |
| 03:55.52 | meowsqueak | welson: I never asked for it to be perfect. |
| 03:56.06 | welson | meowsqueak, well then, don't complain or you'll sound very stupid.. |
| 03:56.09 | stew | Chromance: prism54 probably has the best opensource support |
| 03:56.27 | Chromance | Prism54 is the chipset? |
| 03:56.33 | welson | meowsqueak, the least you can do is report the bug and be smart enough as well as brave enough not to be so stubborn |
| 03:56.34 | stew | Chromance: intel ipw2x00 has good closed source support |
| 03:56.35 | stew | Chromance: yes |
| 03:56.47 | Chromance | k |
| 03:57.30 | deadcat | Chromance: but if you ask that at a sotre. no one will know what the f you talking about. (= |
| 03:57.55 | Chromance | lol , yah I know. |
| 03:58.03 | stew | Chromance: and in that case you will definatly want a 2.6 kernel, hit f3 at the boot: prompt of the installer |
| 03:58.12 | deadcat | Chromance: you get "yes its a 54MBPS card" (= |
| 03:58.37 | stew | deadcat: right, its one of the fastest ones on the market... |
| 03:58.43 | enriched | is something up with libgmp.so.3 in unstable |
| 03:58.43 | Chromance | well I assume its gonna give me the option of which kernal. |
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| 03:59.11 | deadcat | stew: fastest open protocol |
| 03:59.35 | stew | deadcat: i had a guy at a compusa tell me that the rt8139 was the fastest ethernet chipset |
| 03:59.47 | deadcat | stew: heheh. |
| 04:00.16 | deadcat | stew: compusa guys are good at leeching warez. thats for sure. |
| 04:00.30 | welson | Chromance, rarely do you ever get 54 mps anyways.. it depends how well the equipment is working |
| 04:01.01 | sporkbomb | I wonder what would happen if a bunch of compusa guys vs bestbuy guys competed in a computer-related quiz bowl |
| 04:01.03 | deadcat | wireless sucks if you do heavy stuff. only good for surfing the net |
| 04:01.19 | deadcat | sporkbomb: depends what kind of questions (= |
| 04:01.23 | sporkbomb | a low-scoring game, perhaps |
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| 04:01.45 | deadcat | sporkbomb: they might score high on cpu and harddrive |
| 04:01.57 | deadcat | and video cards |
| 04:02.00 | Eonn_ | Guys i saw this in a post "All VNC implementations come with a web server piece. If you go to http://your.ip.address.here:5800 you will get a Java applet which allows you to connect to the linux destop". Is this possible under Debian Distros? |
| 04:02.38 | sporkbomb | deadcat: I didn't expect anyone to actually reiterate, but well done :-) |
| 04:03.15 | welson | Eonn_, its basically the applet feeded off your webserver, gets downloaded to your client pc, and then the client pc calls back to say 59xx something.. so the real connection is not really on 5800 |
| 04:03.17 | deadcat | sporkbomb: so i win? |
| 04:03.37 | welson | Eonn_, or may it be another #.. |
| 04:03.46 | sporkbomb | sure deadcat o(^_^)o |
| 04:03.56 | deadcat | i always win (= |
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| 04:04.36 | deadcat | what i want is a big ass debian swirl for the front hood of the car!! that would be nice. |
| 04:04.38 | DoppleGanger | oh i am gonna tell mom |
| 04:04.44 | Eonn_ | welson: so from a remote location if one were to type http://ipaddress:5900 that would allow access to my desktop without the need for VNC on the client side |
| 04:05.23 | Eonn_ | welson: all you would need is a java-enabled browser? |
| 04:05.37 | Chromance | anyone have a dvd link to Debian 3.1 download? |
| 04:06.40 | Eonn_ | Chromace - no - have you looked at the minimal net-install image though? |
| 04:06.47 | steini | compiling kernel 2.6.8 and ewerything is ok but one thing and the ps2 mouse dissaper - any ideas - /did compile PS/2 mouse device into the kernel, is this some conflict? P%PL is compiled in and disabled in bios ( by OS ) |
| 04:06.47 | bleh^2 | or jigdo |
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| 04:06.56 | Chromance | n/m I foudn it. |
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| 04:08.36 | meowsqueak | welson: what the hell is your problem? I wasn't complaining, I was asking for some other Sid source lines. |
| 04:09.06 | welson | Eonn_, y, the server doesn't need any java set-up but the receiving pc client needs jvm enabled in the firefox browser/whatever browser.. |
| 04:09.45 | welson | Eonn_, you can also customize the index file on the server end to change the port#, screen-size, etc.. |
| 04:10.00 | imaek | Does anyone know of a filesystem that both Mac OS X and debian can read from and write to? for a sharing partition? |
| 04:10.10 | meowsqueak | welson: I can only assume you misread someone elses comment for mine. |
| 04:10.14 | welson | Eonn_, its not very well documented and takes a little bit of practice.. |
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| 04:10.53 | welson | imaek, mac os x? there are mac fs support y.. |
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| 04:11.25 | imaek | But can debian read from and write to the standard mac format? (Something like HSF?) |
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| 04:12.12 | welson | imaek, that you'd best see about the mac fs project on linux (this is a broad project-- so basically its in the linux zone-- mac fs is non-distro related). |
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| 04:13.26 | welson | imaek, you're best bet is with mac os x linux people..#macosx , ##mac |
| 04:13.37 | imaek | i am in ##mac |
| 04:13.42 | imaek | but nobody knows :( |
| 04:14.18 | Penix | there's a project that does ext2 for OS X |
| 04:14.24 | Penix | not sure how good their write support is |
| 04:14.26 | jmd | Can somebody running sid tell me what clock_gettime(CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID, &tp_stop) returns ? |
| 04:14.30 | meowsqueak | can someone please point me at the default Sid apt/source.lst lines? At least tell me where to find them without totally reinstalling Debian... I'm NOT COMPLAINING (welson you moron) I would just like someone to do 'cat /etc/apt/sources.lst' and past the two official lines PLEASE. |
| 04:14.51 | welson | imaek, well i guess nobody knows much here either-- but there is mac fs to some extend, i don't know if its complete though, never tried it-- if its just diskettes its probably completely safe.. |
| 04:14.57 | bob2 | meowsqueak: sudo apt-setup |
| 04:14.57 | sporkbomb | meowsqueak: why don't you just leave already? |
| 04:15.08 | bob2 | meowsqueak: also, in future, backup files before fucking with them |
| 04:15.10 | meowsqueak | bob2: thanks |
| 04:15.25 | mtnman | meowsqueak: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 04:15.26 | meowsqueak | bob2: they haven't changed in years |
| 04:15.32 | meowsqueak | they just stopped working |
| 04:15.43 | meowsqueak | mtnman: thank you |
| 04:15.49 | bob2 | er |
| 04:15.52 | mtnman | you're welcome |
| 04:15.54 | bob2 | then you should look into why that happened |
| 04:16.31 | meowsqueak | bob2: ideally, yes |
| 04:16.36 | Eonn_ | welson: thanks for the information re: VNC over web. Are there any other serivces required to get this going or is that it? |
| 04:16.54 | meowsqueak | bob2: however considering they are the official lines I suspect I'm not the only one having the problem |
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| 04:17.21 | bob2 | have you actually shown the world what is in your copy? |
| 04:17.27 | bob2 | I don't see it in #flood |
| 04:17.32 | meowsqueak | I'll paste it there |
| 04:17.35 | meowsqueak | one mo |
| 04:17.55 | ajs` | there is also pastebin.org |
| 04:17.58 | welson | Chromance, if you want a dvd iso, use torrent tech with azureus (sf.net) and search for torrents-> torrentspy.com , there's illigimetate crap but there's also many legitimate linux distros being distributed this way.. |
| 04:19.47 | welson | bob2, cool, you're actually planning in breaking his machine with sid? *lol |
| 04:20.17 | bob2 | welson: what are you babbling about? |
| 04:20.36 | welson | bob2, can't wait to hear him complain even more :) |
| 04:20.50 | meowsqueak | *ahem* I've been running Sid for 4 years. |
| 04:21.14 | bob2 | welson: wtf |
| 04:21.31 | bob2 | welson: perhaps you should look at what he/she already had, and note that it's "sid" already |
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| 04:21.50 | welson | bob2, and he's never read a doc since.. you see what i mean? it really does help to rtfm once in a while :) |
| 04:22.01 | gravity | bob2: This is from the same guy who was telling people to not play in here. |
| 04:22.29 | sporkbomb | bob2: please don't stick up for n00b assholes who are afraid of manuals |
| 04:22.38 | deadcat | calm down fellas. whats with all the negative vibes? |
| 04:22.42 | meowsqueak | it amazes me... |
| 04:22.50 | bob2 | oh, for fuck's sake |
| 04:22.50 | meowsqueak | are you ALL teenagers? |
| 04:23.03 | bob2 | meowsqueak: yes, please inflame the situation, thanks |
| 04:23.06 | gravity | I don't get it... lots of hate tonight |
| 04:23.26 | mtnman | gravity: lunar cycle, perhaps. |
| 04:23.36 | gravity | mtnman: Yeah, my period is acting up :-) |
| 04:23.43 | mtnman | gravity: tmi |
| 04:23.47 | gravity | lol |
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| 04:24.06 | rob_lt | jmd: I'd help you, but I don't know any C at all. If you post a link to some source, I'll compile it here and run it, and I'm using Sid. |
| 04:25.18 | kal3l | excuseme, but i cant do make, somebody cant help me |
| 04:25.29 | gravity | kal3l: What's the error? |
| 04:25.50 | bleh^2 | woo. fixed it. bug in exim4 build process. whee |
| 04:26.36 | rob_lt | kal3l: you have build-essential installed? |
| 04:27.20 | kal3l | i have install openvpn gravity so i do tar -zxvf open... later when i do ./configure all good but when i do make said: command not found |
| 04:27.28 | welson | kal3l, speak english, you sound like a double-negative anticipator, maybe you should flush everything and give up |
| 04:28.08 | deadcat | bob2: you know how to get into a root shell in OSX by pressing a key during startup? |
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| 04:28.30 | mwilson | A single-user shell, not a root shell. |
| 04:28.31 | gravity | kal3l: Install make |
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| 04:28.45 | mrgenixus | is there a way to dist-downgrade to testing from unstable? |
| 04:28.48 | deadcat | mwilson: oh. what key do i press? what priv do i get? |
| 04:28.55 | mwilson | mrgenixus: No. |
| 04:28.56 | deadcat | mwilson: my friend showed me once. but i forgot |
| 04:29.02 | kal3l | ok thanks |
| 04:29.04 | mrgenixus | mwilson: I have to reinstall |
| 04:29.09 | bob2 | deadcat: no, I forget |
| 04:29.13 | mwilson | mrgenixus: If you say so. |
| 04:29.26 | deadcat | mrgenixus: you can use debfoster and remove every packages but the base.. MAYBE |
| 04:29.26 | bob2 | welson: please? |
| 04:29.26 | rob_lt | kal3l: apt-get install build-essential |
| 04:29.27 | mrgenixus | mwilson: it was actually a question |
| 04:29.51 | mwilson | deadcat: Hold down 's' during boot, I think. You can always search in the KB and find out what you want to know. |
| 04:30.06 | mwilson | mrgenixus: Only you can decide if you have to reinstall. |
| 04:30.08 | deadcat | mwilson: ah.. cool. |
| 04:30.24 | gravity | mrgenixus: More troubles? |
| 04:30.29 | mrgenixus | mwilson: but if I want to go from unstable to testing the recomended path is to reinstall? |
| 04:30.37 | mrgenixus | gravity: yeah, somethings wrong with metacity |
| 04:30.38 | welson | deadcat, wow, that sounds like redhat, umm 'i' ? |
| 04:30.40 | kal3l | yeah i know rob_lt thanks just i have 3 months in windows and i dont remmerber somethigs |
| 04:30.40 | deadcat | mwilson: how to search? press every key? i know c == cdrom, t == firmware, s == single now |
| 04:30.42 | mwilson | mrgenixus: I didn't and don't recommend anything at all. |
| 04:30.46 | gravity | mrgenixus: What's the problem with metacity? It's working fine for me... |
| 04:31.00 | rob_lt | ok kal3l, hope you get it working |
| 04:31.00 | deadcat | welson: what the f? whats redhat got to do with osx |
| 04:31.02 | mwilson | deadcat: Uh, you go to Apple's web site, you search in the knowledge base. |
| 04:31.09 | deadcat | mwilson: ah |
| 04:31.11 | mrgenixus | gravity: it doesn't seem to have installed or installed correctly |
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| 04:31.30 | welson | deadcat, i'm assuming 'I' for interactive, I've never used OSX, at least I'm trying to help doofus.. |
| 04:31.31 | gravity | mrgenixus: Ok, what's the status of the package? Is it installed according to apt? |
| 04:31.45 | mwilson | gravity: And apparently he thinks a messed up window manager means you have to reinstall the entire OS. |
| 04:31.54 | deadcat | welson: you calling me a doofus or calling yourself? |
| 04:31.57 | welson | deadcat, I'm assuming you're running a linux distro on osx...if its osx, comeon.. |
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| 04:32.15 | welson | deadcat, *ahem #osx |
| 04:32.20 | mwilson | "running a Linux distro on OS X"... want to explain that one? |
| 04:32.21 | deadcat | welson: no. i dont have osx on my box. my friend's school lab does |
| 04:32.31 | deadcat | welson: ahem. i am lazy |
| 04:32.31 | gravity | welson: Stop trolling |
| 04:32.41 | thechris | Need help -- i have no mouse device listed in /dev |
| 04:32.41 | deadcat | mwilson: he cant. hes stupid |
| 04:32.54 | welson | *right, I'd thought so.. |
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| 04:33.13 | deadcat | welson: so i guess that "doofus" is for me then? well, fuck you assfucker! |
| 04:33.18 | wrenchboy | hello ppl |
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| 04:33.23 | mwilson | <sigh> |
| 04:33.41 | Xenguy | blah de blah |
| 04:33.53 | wrenchboy | i am male 20 from USA |
| 04:34.03 | mwilson | wrenchboy: Who cares? |
| 04:34.03 | deadcat | wrenchboy: wrong channel |
| 04:34.13 | Xenguy | young enough to endure linux :-) |
| 04:34.16 | jair | guys I wonder a nice software to create pages in html now that i don't know very well sgml or docbook (learning) for linux sarge? |
| 04:34.25 | mwilson | deadcat: I was just going to go get the PB and find out for you, until you started calling names. |
| 04:34.29 | Ecligprs | jair, bluefish |
| 04:34.30 | deadcat | jair: bluefish |
| 04:34.35 | jair | I am trying to create my resume online |
| 04:34.46 | deadcat | mwilson: so i guess you're not gonna help? |
| 04:34.54 | jair | I have my apache up and the no-ip running as well. |
| 04:35.02 | Xenguy | jair: restructured text |
| 04:35.06 | welson | jair, dsssl |
| 04:35.17 | mrgenixus | gravity: sorry, testing, metacity was not installed with gnome-core |
| 04:35.17 | jair | weasel, dinamic ssl? |
| 04:35.19 | deadcat | jair: i have my resume in plain-text |
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| 04:35.29 | gravity | mrgenixus: Try and install it and see how it goes |
| 04:35.30 | jair | deadcat, that is what I am trying to do. |
| 04:35.33 | mwilson | deadcat: I'm not? Funny, I rather thought I had. Apparently help means searching Apple's site for you? Or alternatively rebooting my PB over and over with different keys until I find the right one? |
| 04:35.37 | jair | just kedit? |
| 04:35.41 | thechris | how does one go about setting up X in debian? |
| 04:35.41 | bob2 | jair: I hear www.nvu.com is nice, tho I'm not sure how it differs from mozilla composer (which it's based on) |
| 04:35.46 | deadcat | jair: create a file called resume, and edit with your fav editor |
| 04:35.50 | mwilson | deadcat: <shrug> Then apparently, I'm not going to help. |
| 04:35.56 | gravity | thechris: Install it |
| 04:35.58 | jair | ohhh |
| 04:36.00 | jair | cool |
| 04:36.08 | gravity | thechris: Install the package x-window-system. It'll prompt you on setting up the server. |
| 04:36.12 | deadcat | mwilson: oh. PB == powerbook. (=.. i dont know these shortterms dude |
| 04:36.17 | bob2 | jair: xml-resume-library is a nice way to have a resume that looks nice in a bunch of formats, too, but it's pretty special-purpose |
| 04:36.18 | gravity | thechris: I recommend installing discover before you install x-window-system though |
| 04:36.20 | jair | I will add some couple of images in the web site using gimp probably |
| 04:36.25 | jair | but that's it |
| 04:36.32 | thechris | gravity: will that give me a mouse device? |
| 04:36.40 | gravity | thechris: Um... no |
| 04:36.44 | welson | jair, that was a keyword |
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| 04:36.46 | sporkbomb | thechris: have you checked out the documentation that is provided on www.debian.org? Just a suggestion :-) |
| 04:36.49 | gravity | thechris: Are you running udev? |
| 04:36.51 | jair | bob2, cool I will check that and I am sure will not but very simple |
| 04:36.59 | thechris | gravity: X is set up, but i have no mouse device |
| 04:37.11 | gravity | thechris: Are you running udev? |
| 04:37.12 | thechris | gravity: i assume so. this is a new install |
| 04:37.19 | mwilson | deadcat: Besides, given where the machine(s) apparently are, and how quick you were to ask what rights you get, I can probably assume you're up to no good. |
| 04:37.31 | gravity | thechris: run 'ps -A | grep udev' and tell me if there's a udev process |
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| 04:37.51 | gravity | Or udevd rather |
| 04:37.57 | deadcat | mwilson: no. i just want to know what the key is.. my friend has all priv in the lab. |
| 04:37.57 | thechris | gravity: yep |
| 04:38.10 | bleh^2 | argh |
| 04:38.18 | bleh^2 | wtf does dpkg work on one box and not another?! |
| 04:38.30 | gravity | thechris: Do you have a ps2 mouse? |
| 04:38.35 | welson | jair, i might be wrong, but I think dsssl has support as plugins to some editors-- quanta ? |
| 04:38.48 | thechris | gravity: its usb. i've always used /dev/psaux in the past |
| 04:38.53 | gravity | thechris: Actually, as root run "modprobe mousedev". That should do it. |
| 04:39.03 | jair | welson, I will check all those options thank you |
| 04:39.04 | mwilson | Is it necessary to have more than one? Udev is a problem in search of a problem it can claim to have solved while in fact making all related problems worse. |
| 04:39.09 | gravity | thechris: Oh. Check /dev/input/mice |
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| 04:39.37 | bob2 | DSSSL is not a very general-purpose tool |
| 04:39.45 | bob2 | and it's fairly complex, and requires using SGML |
| 04:39.57 | mwilson | Who was meowsqueak? Someone else who thought everyone should do his thinking for him? |
| 04:40.01 | thechris | gravity: ok, now the mouse exists. where do i set it up to load this module on boot? |
| 04:40.09 | mrgenixus | gravity: ok, so now gnome-core won't install because it's faling on eog (eye of gnome, i think) |
| 04:40.22 | gravity | thechris: Just add the module name to /etc/modules |
| 04:40.23 | mwilson | eog sucks anyway |
| 04:40.33 | gravity | mrgenixus: Why is eog failing? |
| 04:40.37 | mrgenixus | mwilson: foad; it's blocking gnome-core |
| 04:40.48 | mrgenixus | libexif10 |
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| 04:41.03 | thechris | gravity: ok, cool |
| 04:41.03 | gravity | mrgenixus: Ok, don't bother with gnome-core |
| 04:41.17 | mrgenixus | gravity: ok... so i should install $1 instead right? |
| 04:41.27 | gravity | mrgenixus: Just install gnome-panel, metacity, gnome-session, and gnome-menus |
| 04:41.32 | bleh^2 | is there anything I need to do to give dpkg permission to replace one package with another? |
| 04:41.32 | gravity | mrgenixus: We'll go from there. |
| 04:41.42 | mwilson | bleh^2: No. |
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| 04:41.54 | mrgenixus | gravity: thanks, really appreciate you rhelp |
| 04:42.01 | gravity | mrgenixus: No problem |
| 04:42.08 | bleh^2 | mwilson: well it doesn't want to do it. it seems to be getting confused by the Conflicts line |
| 04:42.09 | bob2 | bleh^2: if you're getting an error, it's best to say that, and then show us the error |
| 04:42.24 | mrgenixus | gravity: it seems to have all resolved dependencies, but we'll see |
| 04:42.30 | deadcat | how do i mount an OSXtiger dvd iso? -o loop didnt help |
| 04:42.40 | jair | this bluefish looks and sounds very cool |
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| 04:42.44 | welson | deadcat, swearing doesn't help --doofus |
| 04:42.45 | gravity | mrgenixus: Those should pull in the major gnome things you need, including libs. You can hopefully get a basic gnome system up that way |
| 04:43.08 | mrgenixus | ok, it ran, trying to startx |
| 04:43.16 | deadcat | welson: damn took you like 5min to come up with a reply? you are slow. |
| 04:43.18 | bob2 | deadcat: -o loop -t udf? |
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| 04:43.32 | welson | deadcat, what's the matter you can't man mount ? |
| 04:43.35 | mrgenixus | ok, gnome's up, but it says it wants applets, that's all in gnome-applets right? |
| 04:43.39 | deadcat | bob2: i tried -t udf as well. no luck |
| 04:43.40 | gravity | Yeah |
| 04:43.41 | bleh^2 | dpkg: regarding exim4-daemon-x_4.50-8_i386.deb containing exim4-daemon-x: exim4-daemon-x conflicts with mail-transport-agent exim4-daemon-light provides mail-transport-agent and is installed. / dpkg: error processing exim4-daemon-x_4.50-8_i386.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing exim4-daemon-x Errors were encountered while processing: exim4-daemon-xl_4.50-8_i386.deb |
| 04:43.41 | dpkg | bleh^2: what are you talking about? |
| 04:43.48 | mrgenixus | there also seem to be no apps in applications |
| 04:43.55 | bleh^2 | bob2: that's basically iy. |
| 04:43.55 | deadcat | welson: no i disabled the man command. |
| 04:43.58 | bleh^2 | it even |
| 04:43.59 | sith-R2D2 | anybody using m0n0wall with their debian? |
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| 04:44.03 | gravity | hrm |
| 04:44.05 | welson | deadcat, well then drop dead pussy cat |
| 04:44.16 | deadcat | !ops welson is annoying me |
| 04:44.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: welson is annoying me |
| 04:44.17 | mrgenixus | gravity: I suspect there are none to include in the menu? |
| 04:44.19 | gravity | welson deadcat Would you both cut it please, or take it to /msg? |
| 04:44.24 | welson | deadcat, no more spoon feeding for ya |
| 04:44.27 | gravity | mrgenixus: Possibly. There should be a debian menu there at least. |
| 04:44.44 | deadcat | gravity: not my fault. this guy is just up my ass.. |
| 04:44.44 | mrgenixus | gravity: I don't think the debian menu is there as of gnome 2.10 |
| 04:44.51 | gravity | deadcat: /ignore |
| 04:44.55 | mrgenixus | gravity: it dropped off of mine when I upgraded |
| 04:44.56 | gravity | mrgenixus: Yeah, it is |
| 04:45.00 | deadcat | gravity: that dont help |
| 04:45.03 | gravity | mrgenixus: I've got it in mine. It moved. |
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| 04:45.09 | NeoFax99 | Having problems installing the new bluez-utils package. |
| 04:45.11 | mrgenixus | gravity: yeah? |
| 04:45.29 | gravity | hrm... I don't know how to debug that off hand, but let's see... |
| 04:45.31 | NeoFax99 | It tries to shutdown rfcomm but hangs |
| 04:45.51 | gravity | mrgenixus: You installed gnome-menus? |
| 04:45.56 | mrgenixus | gravity: i think we can figure it out, i just didn't realize that there were those sorts of component packages for gnome |
| 04:45.59 | deadcat | bob2: i get wrong fs type. bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0 |
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| 04:46.04 | mrgenixus | gravity: yeah, I think it's fine |
| 04:46.09 | bob2 | bleh^2: use apt, or "sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends exim4-daemon-light ; sudo dpkg -i exim4-daemon-x_blah.deb" |
| 04:46.16 | gravity | mrgenixus: Yeah, gnome's a big complex thing with lots of little bits. |
| 04:46.19 | bob2 | deadcat: does loop mounting other things work? |
| 04:46.22 | mrgenixus | gravity: there probably shouldn't be any apps that I can think of, except maybe xclients |
| 04:46.34 | gravity | mrgenixus: Well, that's possible. Try installing something like gedit |
| 04:46.35 | NeoFax99 | I have even tried rmmoding rfcomm first to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions? |
| 04:46.37 | mrgenixus | but those usually don't end up in the menu anyhow |
| 04:46.38 | gravity | mrgenixus: See how that goes |
| 04:46.39 | bleh^2 | bob2: fun thing is, on another box I can just install it. |
| 04:46.47 | mrgenixus | gravity: thanks for your help |
| 04:46.53 | gravity | mrgenixus: No problem |
| 04:47.06 | bob2 | bleh^2: the other box has exim-daemon-light installed? |
| 04:47.13 | bob2 | NeoFax99: nothing in the bts? google? |
| 04:47.15 | bleh^2 | bob2: had, yeah |
| 04:47.26 | bob2 | NeoFax99: are you sure linux supports your BT hardware at all? |
| 04:47.39 | NeoFax99 | Looked using google. |
| 04:47.48 | bleh^2 | well it did it once and now it wont. whee |
| 04:48.32 | NeoFax99 | bob2: Not really, but it shouldn't hang like that. The init script basically says to rfcomm unbind all then echo true |
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| 04:48.57 | bob2 | NeoFax99: hm, anything in dmesg? |
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| 04:49.04 | NeoFax99 | This is not happening. It is hanging waiting for rfcomm to stop, but it just keeps respawning rfcomm. |
| 04:49.12 | thechris | anyonw know how to set up a usb mouse |
| 04:49.30 | deadcat | bob2: mounting freedos with -o loop works |
| 04:49.46 | gravity | thechris: If it's not /dev/input/mice it's /dev/input/mouse0 or some other number (whatever is there) |
| 04:49.46 | mtnman | thecrhris: /msg dpkg usb mouse |
| 04:49.51 | nvz | thechris: plug it in |
| 04:49.57 | NeoFax99 | The dmesg is saying rfcomm initialized. When it should be killing rfcomm. |
| 04:50.08 | thechris | gravity: i have the devices listed, they just don't work |
| 04:50.22 | gravity | thechris: Neither mouse0 nor mice? |
| 04:50.24 | thechris | gravity: i can cat /dev/input/mice and get nothing |
| 04:50.43 | thechris | gravity: i do not have mouse0 |
| 04:51.02 | gravity | thechris: Nothing else in /dev/input? |
| 04:51.04 | bob2 | thechris: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 04:52.04 | gravity | heh... good riddance to that guy |
| 04:52.19 | thechris | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 04:52.37 | deadcat | gravity: i think he was angry at me... )= |
| 04:52.39 | thechris | ok, after unplugging it then plugging it back in, it works |
| 04:52.53 | thechris | i guess you have to do that if the modules aren't loaded at start |
| 04:53.00 | deadcat | gravity: you said your friend was gonna release transset and xcompmgr soon right? |
| 04:53.09 | bob2 | deadcat: what does "file" say about the image? |
| 04:53.17 | gravity | deadcat: She's working on it. I haven't heard back from her in a week or so, but I'm giving her time |
| 04:53.37 | gravity | I'm more interested in getting another 6.8 release out the door and in to testing so I can get to work on 6.9 |
| 04:53.53 | deadcat | bob2: bob2 apple partition data block size .... apple_driver_atpi ... |
| 04:54.05 | bob2 | deadcat: weh? |
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| 04:54.18 | bob2 | deadcat: that's not going to be easy to mount then |
| 04:54.26 | deadcat | gravity: cool. (= maybe i can upgrade the ibook to xorg real soon |
| 04:54.29 | bob2 | I don't know if it's possible to do partitions on loop devices at all |
| 04:54.43 | sporkbomb | deadcat: have you been a mac user for a while? |
| 04:54.48 | deadcat | bob2: can i use mol to load it? |
| 04:55.00 | bob2 | deadcat: I'd imagine that would work |
| 04:55.10 | bob2 | deadcat: perhaps there's a way to do using a loop, I dunno |
| 04:55.13 | deadcat | sporkbomb: no. i had the ibook since sep last yr. had the os for 5min then removed it |
| 04:55.23 | bob2 | heh |
| 04:55.35 | sporkbomb | deadcat: that bad eh? |
| 04:55.39 | deadcat | bob2: i guess i will try loseup on it. since i dont have dvd on the ibook and i want to test tiger (= |
| 04:56.05 | bob2 | I'm kinda surprised that a DVD has a partition table on it |
| 04:56.11 | deadcat | sporkbomb: not bad. i just prefer debian and openbox over osx. i like expose.. thats where i spent the 5min (= |
| 04:56.43 | bob2 | heh, I was highly amused to find GNOME supported my camera better than mac os x did |
| 04:56.48 | deadcat | bob2: shhh. but he got it from work (= |
| 04:57.02 | bob2 | deadcat: are yo usure it's not a dump of someone's hard disk? |
| 04:57.07 | gravity | deadcat: It's hinging on xcompmgr of all things? |
| 04:57.17 | deadcat | bob2: no. its a osx cd from the box. |
| 04:57.39 | Bac9 | anyone played around with kernel qos and can point to a good beginners guide? |
| 04:57.44 | deadcat | gravity: xorg? no i am reffering to the hang when i reboot/shutdown |
| 04:58.08 | gravity | Oh right |
| 04:58.15 | bleh^2 | this is seriously annoying |
| 04:58.18 | gravity | Well, I'm moving on 6.9 asap |
| 04:58.25 | deadcat | cool |
| 04:58.27 | gravity | So that will hopefully address that issue |
| 04:58.44 | bob2 | Bac9: the networking stuff? |
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| 04:58.55 | sporkbomb | deadcat: I've been thinking about getting a mac, but I cannot seem to make up my mind |
| 04:59.12 | deadcat | sporkbomb: its a nice machine. just get loads of ram if you use osx |
| 04:59.45 | mrgenixus | gravity: do you know what's up with exif10? |
| 04:59.56 | mrgenixus | gravity: it seems to be the blocking package right now |
| 05:00.08 | mrgenixus | ...it's not going to be installed |
| 05:00.19 | Bac9 | bob2: yep |
| 05:00.24 | sporkbomb | deadcat: are you running linux on it exclusively? |
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| 05:00.37 | Xenguy | dum de dum |
| 05:00.59 | deadcat | sporkbomb: ya. i have a 3gig file with osx10.3 for demo with mol.. but the partition table is clean hehe. |
| 05:01.00 | bob2 | Bac9: www.lartc.org and #lartc on irc.oftc.net |
| 05:01.54 | gravity | mrgenixus: Uh... that should install just fine. I have the newest version in sid on my machine. It only depends on libc |
| 05:02.06 | deadcat | sporkbomb: although i cant use mol lately because my kernel has fbsplash patched and that doesnt work with mol. its one or the other. |
| 05:02.10 | Bac9 | bob2: thanx |
| 05:02.17 | sporkbomb | deadcat: I was afraid of doing that as well, and If I that's the case, It might be more cost efficient to just get an x86 |
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| 05:02.45 | sporkbomb | deadcat: by "doing that", I meant running mostly linux on it |
| 05:02.51 | deadcat | sporkbomb: but its cool to run linux AND mac at the same time.. like F7 and F8 |
| 05:03.11 | deadcat | sporkbomb: oh ya. (=.. but sleeping the ibook is so easy here.. |
| 05:03.33 | bob2 | Bac9: wondershaper apparently works well if your needs aren't too complex |
| 05:03.55 | sporkbomb | deadcat: what do you mean by running "at the same time.. like F7 and F8" |
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| 05:04.34 | Bac9 | bob2: I was wondering how to play around witht he kernel built in features |
| 05:04.42 | deadcat | sporkbomb: start linux and X, start mol, it will run at F8 (by control+alt+f8) and switch back and forth. |
| 05:04.49 | deadcat | sporkbomb: let me link you |
| 05:04.53 | sporkbomb | thanks bro |
| 05:04.59 | bob2 | Bac9: you use the "tc" command, generally, but it's a pretty low-level interface |
| 05:05.16 | deadcat | sporkbomb: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/video/demo/mol.demo.divx4.avi |
| 05:05.18 | Bac9 | bob2: what package is that in? |
| 05:05.22 | mrgenixus | gravity: hmm, i dunno |
| 05:05.27 | sporkbomb | deadcat: thanks man |
| 05:05.27 | bob2 | !+find bin/tc |
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| 05:05.29 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 05:05.45 | mrgenixus | gravity: apt says it's depricated |
| 05:05.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/tc' (10 of 46): (/sbin/tc) in net/iproute ;; (/usr/bin/tcs) in text/tcs ;; (/usr/bin/tcd) in sound/tcd ;; (/usr/bin/tcc) in devel/tcc ;; (/usr/bin/tcal) in utils/gcal ;; (/usr/bin/tcpsvd) in net/ipsvd ;; (/usr/sbin/tcplog) in net/jail ;; (/usr/sbin/tcpsic) in net/isic ;; (/usr/bin/tcscid) in games/scid ;; (/usr/sbin/tcpick) in net/tcpick. |
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| 05:06.07 | Bac9 | bob2: found it |
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| 05:06.20 | gravity | mrgenixus: Huh? Not on my system... it's still in use |
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| 05:06.32 | gravity | Oh... nm. It is obsolete. |
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| 05:07.52 | gravity | mrgenixus: What wants to install libexif10? |
| 05:07.54 | Bac9 | bob2: what support does tc require in the kernel? do you happen to know off the top of your head? |
| 05:08.03 | mrgenixus | gravity: the problem seems to be that libexif has been upgraded to libexif12 instead of libexif10, so the package doesn't exist |
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| 05:08.10 | bob2 | Bac9: a bunch of stuff under "networking options", iirc |
| 05:08.16 | bob2 | Bac9: debian kernels almost certainly have it |
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| 05:08.29 | Bac9 | bob2: I roll my own config |
| 05:08.44 | gravity | mrgenixus: Yeah, but what packages require libexif10? |
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| 05:08.54 | mrgenixus | gravity: beagle, eog, |
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| 05:09.00 | gravity | mrgenixus: Don't install those |
| 05:09.14 | gravity | Simple solution |
| 05:09.30 | bob2 | beagle's in Debian now? |
| 05:09.45 | gravity | Yeah, finally |
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| 05:09.54 | Scorpaen | how do i get the smbmount command? |
| 05:09.55 | sporkbomb | deadcat: wow...that's pretty neat |
| 05:09.58 | mrgenixus | that's what I said |
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| 05:10.01 | Scorpaen | my freaking alsa works! yay! |
| 05:10.05 | sporkbomb | deadcat: is there a big performance hit doing that? |
| 05:10.06 | Scorpaen | now i just need to mount my mp3s |
| 05:10.07 | Scorpaen | :D |
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| 05:10.27 | mrgenixus | gravity: unfortuantely i'm trying to develop an app based on beagle anyway |
| 05:10.32 | deadcat | sporkbomb: same speed at native. i even increased the ram to 512 eventhough i only have 382 (= |
| 05:10.36 | gravity | ugh |
| 05:10.38 | mrgenixus | obviously nobody need eog |
| 05:10.46 | shimano55 | Question, Anyone here really good with GIMP? Cause there's nobody talking in #gimp. |
| 05:10.54 | mrgenixus | shimano55: no |
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| 05:10.58 | mrgenixus | shimano55: j/k |
| 05:11.05 | gravity | mrgenixus: You're going to have to work your own magic to get beagle installed. You can install the libexif10 from testing I suppose if you really want it. |
| 05:11.14 | mrgenixus | shimano55: id you try #gimp on irc.gimp.org? |
| 05:11.22 | bob2 | shimano55: best to just ask your questiom |
| 05:11.37 | mrgenixus | gravity: actually I have an older package I'm using instead, but that was my next guess |
| 05:11.40 | bob2 | this isn't CS, adding an extra level of indirection isn't encouraged ;) |
| 05:11.46 | shimano55 | mrgenixus, No I did not |
| 05:11.58 | mrgenixus | shimano55: you might have better luck there |
| 05:12.12 | shimano55 | bob2, How to I paste a layer into another layer's mask in GIMP 2.2? |
| 05:12.18 | shimano55 | mrgenixus, thanks |
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| 05:13.52 | thechris | i can't seem to install the nvidia graphics module from "non-free" |
| 05:14.01 | bob2 | !+nvidia one liner |
| 05:14.02 | dpkg | well, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 05:14.36 | bob2 | if that doesn't work, you need to say which step isn't working, and what error you get |
| 05:15.34 | mrgenixus | bob2: somebody needs to tell dpkg that we're using xserver-xorg |
| 05:15.46 | bob2 | ah, true |
| 05:15.51 | bob2 | is xorg in etch yet? |
| 05:15.57 | deadcat | nope |
| 05:16.03 | at0m|c | it has a huge memory leak here |
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| 05:16.32 | at0m|c | like it uses over 1gb after a day or so |
| 05:16.35 | gravity | no |
| 05:16.45 | gravity | -5 is hopefully the one that will hit etch |
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| 05:17.19 | deadcat | but -5 is not even in sid yet. so its gonna take a while for testing eh? |
| 05:17.19 | jm_ | 1G? that must be for X server ;) |
| 05:17.30 | gravity | Yes |
| 05:17.38 | gravity | I'm trying to build it now |
| 05:17.47 | jm_ | XFree86 hit that for me after about 8 months |
| 05:18.46 | bob2 | firefox has hit 340Mn after 12 hours |
| 05:19.04 | deadcat | gravity: how many people work with you on this? |
| 05:19.25 | jm_ | hmm I had firefox running for a month until two weeks ago and it was somewhere arround 200M |
| 05:19.27 | mrgenixus | at0m|c: i don't think it's xorg, I think it's nautilus |
| 05:19.35 | at0m|c | i dont have nautilus |
| 05:19.40 | Penix | does anyone else find beagle really evil? |
| 05:19.40 | mrgenixus | at0m|c: I mean I assume you've run the appropriate tests |
| 05:19.46 | mrgenixus | at0m|c: oh |
| 05:19.56 | at0m|c | i use xfe |
| 05:19.58 | deadcat | Penix: never heard of it |
| 05:20.02 | gravity | deadcat: A few |
| 05:20.07 | Penix | might just be me though. I have lost my evolution folders and filter settings twice now because of beagled |
| 05:20.07 | gravity | deadcat: Maybe 5 or so |
| 05:20.19 | mrgenixus | at0m|c: well nautilus is worse |
| 05:20.41 | deadcat | gravity: damn. you guys are doing a good job... i say that because i am using sid (= |
| 05:21.25 | gravity | Thank you |
| 05:21.29 | gravity | I appreciate that |
| 05:21.35 | at0m|c | mrgenixus, running xserver-xorg_6.8.2-10_i386.deb, the leak's been confirmed in #xorg |
| 05:21.46 | mrgenixus | at0m|c: ok |
| 05:21.53 | jm_ | yes most of the people had positive feedback, I can hardly remember anyone with problems |
| 05:21.54 | deadcat | at0m|c: dude. you on your own. thats not a debian package |
| 05:22.12 | at0m|c | its from an ubuntu repository |
| 05:22.23 | deadcat | at0m|c: ya. you on your own |
| 05:22.28 | at0m|c | the latest i found eh |
| 05:22.54 | jm_ | heh |
| 05:23.14 | deadcat | i notice when my machine boots up i see the [ ok ] on the alsa line... its weird.. |
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| 05:24.01 | gravity | The leak's probably still present in the debian package, although I have no idea why someone would be running Debian sid with the ubuntu xorg packages |
| 05:24.04 | gravity | They're not that far apart |
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| 05:24.53 | Penix | can anyone recommend a Linux 2.6 patchset similar to ck or mm with Xen included? |
| 05:25.35 | deadcat | gravity: is the Option "Composite" enabled by default? and the RENDER, DAMAGE options as well? |
| 05:25.51 | gravity | deadcat: It shouldn't be... |
| 05:25.59 | deadcat | oh |
| 05:26.04 | gravity | I suppose I should double check that though |
| 05:26.05 | bob2 | render should be |
| 05:26.21 | bob2 | composite is x.org slang for "PLEASE MAKE MY X SERVER SLOWER AND LESS STABLE" |
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| 05:26.34 | lonny | hello all |
| 05:26.50 | gravity | Pretty much |
| 05:26.59 | lonny | I'm having an issue setting up an integrated NIC card...is anyone here experienced here w/ NIC setup? |
| 05:27.07 | jm_ | lonny: /msg dpkg ask |
| 05:27.09 | deadcat | bob2: but thats the pretty stuff right? |
| 05:27.22 | jm_ | pretty stuff gets boring after a while |
| 05:27.42 | lonny | ahh...ok, haha |
| 05:27.43 | deadcat | jm_: ya. just like aterm.. |
| 05:27.52 | bob2 | deadcat: some of it |
| 05:27.58 | bob2 | render is pretty hot by itself |
| 05:28.14 | jm_ | yes render can be useful |
| 05:28.32 | lonny | when I try to start my eth1 I get "not correct variables" and I've set up the address, network, and netmask for a standart 192.168.1.0 network |
| 05:28.59 | lonny | to my understanding those are the only required variables |
| 05:29.05 | bob2 | lonny: so, paste the block from /etc/network/interfaces to #flood |
| 05:29.08 | bob2 | lonny: along with the error message |
| 05:29.11 | jm_ | lonny: "/msg dpkg paste" and paste it |
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| 05:29.52 | mrgenixus | no, no use pastebin! |
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| 05:30.21 | lonny | ...I know exactly what it looks like...can I just type it? |
| 05:31.07 | lonny | auto eth1 |
| 05:31.13 | lonny | iface eth1 inet static |
| 05:31.19 | lonny | address 192.168.1.1 |
| 05:31.26 | deadcat | lonny: thats pasting |
| 05:31.32 | lonny | network 192.168.1.0 |
| 05:31.44 | mrgenixus | deadcat: clearly he's typing it out |
| 05:31.47 | lonny | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 05:31.52 | mtnman | deadcat: why are you giving people such a hard time tonight? |
| 05:31.53 | mrgenixus | but he'd better to paste it |
| 05:31.59 | deadcat | mrgenixus: haha. pasting mean more than 3 lines |
| 05:32.15 | bob2 | pasting as in "cut and paste from your /etc/network/interfaces so you don't mistype it" |
| 05:32.16 | deadcat | mtnman: PMS (= |
| 05:32.34 | mrgenixus | deadcat: but he's typing it out, line by line, therefore he isn't typing |
| 05:32.39 | mtnman | deadcat: go take a pill and please don't be so negative. |
| 05:32.54 | deadcat | mtnman: ok.... |
| 05:32.59 | lonny | yes yes, so that is what my eth1 conf. looks just like that |
| 05:33.06 | lonny | have I done anything wrong? |
| 05:33.25 | mrgenixus | lonny: you started a sort of war about the definition of pasting, I think |
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| 05:33.43 | lonny | I noticed |
| 05:34.02 | lonny | does anyone know what my issue could be? |
| 05:34.10 | Penix | I upgraded to an athlon xp 2800. it's a whole *two* gigahertz. I've finally caught up to 2002 |
| 05:34.16 | thechris | hmm. i'm getting a bit sick of tracking down dependencies to get the nvidia modules to work... |
| 05:34.36 | deadcat | thechris: no problem here. |
| 05:34.43 | sith-dog | anybody listen to ytcracker? |
| 05:34.46 | lonny | I'm thinking it's driver issues...anyone else have an idea? |
| 05:34.50 | Penix | hooray for tax return funded computer upgrades |
| 05:35.24 | thechris | deadcat: how did you get it to install? |
| 05:35.28 | mtnman | penix: i still have not broken the gigaherz barrier. |
| 05:35.29 | deadcat | speaking onf return.. i never got my $ from MS settlement thing. |
| 05:35.43 | nite613 | From an fsck: /dev/hda7: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while reading block 518 |
| 05:35.44 | deadcat | !nvidia one-liner thechris |
| 05:35.46 | nite613 | It's the last partition on the drive, the others seem intact, but this one is acting quite pooched :( |
| 05:35.55 | nite613 | Is that my drive about to bite it? |
| 05:35.59 | deadcat | !tell thechris about nvidia one-liner |
| 05:36.05 | lonny | how do you view the installed hardware on your comp.? I forgot the command |
| 05:36.07 | Penix | mtnman: I had 1ghz before, but it could've been 700mhz or something, the cache and fsb are that shite on a duron |
| 05:36.16 | deadcat | lonny: lspci |
| 05:36.31 | lonny | oh...thank you sooo much....I've been trying to figure that out all night |
| 05:36.38 | lonny | I'll come back to bitch later |
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| 05:36.48 | deadcat | lonny: i will be waiting |
| 05:36.54 | deadcat | to bitch back at you |
| 05:36.58 | mtnman | penix: i'm running a couple of hand-me-down PIII's |
| 05:37.06 | thechris | deadcat: was dpkg supposed to message me? |
| 05:37.07 | Penix | mtnman: smp? |
| 05:37.12 | deadcat | thechris: the nvidia howto |
| 05:37.14 | sith-dog | anybody use Adaptec ANA-62044 in their debian box? |
| 05:37.42 | mtnman | penix: no, two separate systems... a desktop and a notebook that burns my lap. |
| 05:37.46 | Penix | ah |
| 05:38.11 | Penix | I can't believe I'm still laptopless |
| 05:38.18 | Penix | heh. laptopless |
| 05:38.26 | deadcat | Penix: tiem to step up man.. |
| 05:38.32 | oatis | is there a way to tab between desktops in kde? |
| 05:38.33 | saboteur | i have 3 laptops |
| 05:38.34 | saboteur | lol |
| 05:38.42 | deadcat | oatis: define desktop |
| 05:38.48 | saboteur | i use the medium speed one |
| 05:38.48 | gravity | I need a desktop in addition to my laptop |
| 05:38.49 | saboteur | :) |
| 05:38.56 | oatis | deadcat, the virtual desktops |
| 05:39.16 | deadcat | oatis: try alt+F1 and so on. |
| 05:39.34 | deadcat | oatis: i think kde has a menu in the config with a list of predefined keys |
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| 05:39.48 | oatis | deadcat, sweet, that worked, thnx :) |
| 05:39.49 | Penix | I'd get so much more done if I had even a slow pos notebook |
| 05:39.58 | cafuego | SimonRaven: Are you awake? |
| 05:40.01 | cafuego | (wenas) |
| 05:40.04 | deadcat | oatis: wow.. wild guess on that one.. because thats how i map my openbox (= |
| 05:40.04 | mrgenixus | Penix: sure, you could use it as a thin-client for a real machine |
| 05:40.04 | Penix | wenas |
| 05:40.12 | mtnman | penix: i used the old P133 laptop as a glorified x-terminal. |
| 05:40.16 | at0m|c | when i "hdparm -i /dev/hda", the returns contain "BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=0kB", but I'm using a Toshiba MK8026GAX with 16MB of cache. any idea's? |
| 05:40.27 | mrgenixus | mtnman: ha ha, just what I was suggestiong |
| 05:40.32 | deadcat | mtnman: thats too slow for GUI |
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| 05:40.44 | mrgenixus | deadcat: nonsense |
| 05:40.44 | mwilson | at0m|c: <shrug> hdparm doesn't recognize your drive. So? Does the kernel? |
| 05:40.48 | Penix | mrgenixus: yeah. wifi card and nfs mount, xdmcp etc. would be nice |
| 05:40.53 | lonny | ok...I get the error saying I don't have all the variables |
| 05:40.54 | mrgenixus | deadcat: as long as you run the gui on the other machine |
| 05:41.01 | deadcat | mrgenixus: takes a while to wait for gui to come up. |
| 05:41.05 | lonny | don't I only need address, netmask, and network? |
| 05:41.08 | mtnman | deadcat: actually, i' ve used a 486 as an xterminal |
| 05:41.18 | at0m|c | mwilson, hdparm does recognise it, it returns the type and i can set far most options |
| 05:41.20 | mrgenixus | Penix: I do that sometimes, except the laptop is so much better than the desktop |
| 05:41.27 | SimonRaven | cafuego: hi |
| 05:41.28 | deadcat | mtnman: damn the xserver must took like 2min |
| 05:41.44 | deadcat | lonny: man 5 interfaces |
| 05:41.45 | at0m|c | mwilson, i'm afraid it has problems w the cache on the drive |
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| 05:41.50 | mrgenixus | deadcat: there are smaller severs than XFree86 and xorg |
| 05:41.51 | lonny | kk...brb |
| 05:42.06 | mtnman | once X fired up it was pretty snappy, but no way to run firefox on the machine directly. but running ff remotely worked fine. |
| 05:42.09 | deadcat | mrgenixus: if you just gonna use a terminal why not just stick with console? |
| 05:42.20 | mrgenixus | deadcat: by terminal I mean end-point |
| 05:42.24 | deadcat | mtnman: i guess remotly is ok |
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| 05:42.49 | mrgenixus | deadcat: X11 is designed as a "terminal services" protocol, you know for serving terminals |
| 05:42.52 | mtnman | deadcat: your approval means a lot to me. |
| 05:42.58 | mrgenixus | mtnman: lol |
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| 05:43.04 | deadcat | but with a machine that slow. i dont even have the patient to apt-get upgrade (= |
| 05:43.11 | mrgenixus | deadcat: X terminal is not the same as Xterm |
| 05:43.26 | mrgenixus | deadcat: especially since by X we mean X11 |
| 05:43.27 | deadcat | mrgenixus: i dont know that.. |
| 05:43.44 | mrgenixus | deadcat: oh, well go read a wikipedia article on X11 |
| 05:43.55 | deadcat | mrgenixus: no. i am a newb and i am lazy |
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| 05:44.16 | mrgenixus | deadcat: ok /marm deadcat n00b |
| 05:44.16 | gravity | smaller x servers on linux aren't really in use though |
| 05:44.22 | lonny_ | hey dead....I read through that before..and unless I misread something it only requires address, netmask, and network....what reason would it be giving me an error saying that I don't have all the variables? |
| 05:44.26 | gravity | kdrive is around, but it's not really practical for general use |
| 05:44.33 | mrgenixus | gravity: but you could get one if you needed really basic functionality |
| 05:44.46 | gravity | I suppose for cash, yeah |
| 05:44.59 | mrgenixus | the other option is to get an actual thin-client |
| 05:44.59 | deadcat | lonny_: i wasnt paying attention to your question... sorry |
| 05:45.15 | lonny_ | deadcat: from before or just now? |
| 05:45.47 | deadcat | lonny_: i just remeber you said something about coming back and bitch. and i said. i will be waiting to bitch back at you..... |
| 05:46.02 | lonny_ | lol...oh, ok |
| 05:46.11 | deadcat | lonny_: actually i dont pay too much attention in #debian. i just start typing when i see a word (= |
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| 05:46.26 | mtnman | deadcat: if you ever programmed on punch cards, you would have more patience. |
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| 05:46.34 | deadcat | lonny_: thats why i get into lots of arguements here |
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| 05:47.02 | lonny_ | deadcat: let me know if you can help...my eth1 wont come up and I get the error that I don't have all the variables but I have all the ones that 5 interfaces lists as required...any clue why? |
| 05:47.03 | deadcat | mtnman: ya.. i cant even stand waiting for a C program to compile. thats how impatient i am. thats why i only know perl, php, shell scripts |
| 05:47.10 | lonny_ | deadcat: hah...I can see |
| 05:47.28 | jm_ | lonny_: clearly you don't |
| 05:47.30 | deadcat | lonny_: ifconfig -a shows? set the ip manually see if it works first |
| 05:47.32 | Penix | that sounds sort of backwards |
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| 05:47.43 | mrgenixus | Penix: it does |
| 05:47.49 | lonny_ | deadcat: show eth1 running in broadcast mode |
| 05:47.57 | mrgenixus | deadcat: bet you like python too, don'tyou |
| 05:48.01 | mtnman | deadcat: instead of being proud of your short attention span, you could try to develop patience. |
| 05:48.10 | ke6isf | Ghod, I need caffeine. |
| 05:48.26 | deadcat | mrgenixus: havent got into it yet.. but maybe one of these day.. programming is kinna boring to me |
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| 05:48.42 | mrgenixus | deadcat: wanna-be visualBasic programmer |
| 05:48.57 | deadcat | mrgenixus: you? because i dont like programming/programmers (= |
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| 05:49.15 | mrgenixus | deadcat: i'm calling you that |
| 05:49.22 | mtnman | deadcat: yes, complaining about anything is more interesting than writing some code. |
| 05:49.23 | lonny_ | <--------hhheeelllppp mmmeee |
| 05:49.23 | mrgenixus | deadcat: your loss |
| 05:49.33 | deadcat | mtnman: i dont know man. i dont even pay attention when people speaking to me.. i just go.. "ya.." |
| 05:49.42 | Penix | hah |
| 05:49.56 | dotz | Hi there. My question: could I make /usr/bin/python point to python2.4 instead of python2.3 in a debian-compatible way somehow? |
| 05:50.10 | deadcat | dotz: ln -s |
| 05:50.18 | liable | or whatever that a.d.d stuff is.. |
| 05:50.23 | dotz | deadcat: ... and upgrade of python2.3 will overwrite it. |
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| 05:50.33 | deadcat | liable: thats drugs? i dont take drugs either. |
| 05:50.46 | liable | mmmk |
| 05:50.52 | deadcat | dotz: ya. then you do it again. maybe update-alternatives |
| 05:51.02 | mtnman | dotz: i think either update-alternatives or equivs might help you. |
| 05:51.11 | dotz | deadcat: Won't work either. Triead that already. |
| 05:51.23 | dotz | mtnman: Hm, I'll try that equivs, thanks :) |
| 05:51.26 | deadcat | dotz: ln -sf, i am using that for gcc at the moment |
| 05:51.30 | mtnman | liable: ritalin |
| 05:51.36 | ke6isf | liable: ritalin. |
| 05:51.44 | deadcat | you guys know your drugs |
| 05:51.47 | liable | thought I spelled it wrong :) |
| 05:51.53 | dotz | mtnman: Where can I find more information about equivs ? |
| 05:52.00 | Penix | deadcat: you got that right |
| 05:52.11 | dotz | mtnman: Ah, I see. Nevermind. |
| 05:52.12 | mtnman | dotz: apt-get install equivs; man equivs |
| 05:52.18 | deadcat | isnt the side-affect for those "internal bleeding" and stuff? |
| 05:52.37 | liable | no, an urge to go to raves.. :P |
| 05:52.47 | deadcat | hahah. |
| 05:52.52 | Penix | an urge to hug people at raves |
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| 05:53.33 | deadcat | Penix: i believe those are something else |
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| 05:54.31 | dotz | deadcat: It can work for you. For me... I've got 2 pythons installed, 2.3 and 2.4. Even if I symlink (or update-alternatives) python to python2.4, next time python2.3 is upgraded, the link (or, worse, python2.4 executable) is being overwriten with the 2.3 one. For apps, where you seldom (or never) get an upgraded package, this could work. |
| 05:54.37 | Penix | deadcat: I don't know what you're suggesting. I'm just talking about a hug between friends at a rave. are you implying the presence of illicit substances at these events? |
| 05:54.48 | dotz | mtnman: There's no manpage for equivs :^) |
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| 05:55.04 | mtnman | dotz: try /usr/share/doc/equivs |
| 05:55.10 | deadcat | Penix: i dont know what you talking about. (= |
| 05:55.15 | JeffH_ | what is a good web based picture album application? |
| 05:55.22 | Penix | I bet you don't |
| 05:55.31 | Penix | !confuse deadcat |
| 05:55.32 | dpkg | No, who was my pants yesterday, deadcat? pants of the people's republic of micronesia with extra crabpaste |
| 05:55.33 | deadcat | JeffH_: libapache-gallery-mod is the best. |
| 05:55.42 | JeffH_ | deadcat: thanks. |
| 05:55.48 | dotz | mtnman: ... and, it's for package building. |
| 05:55.55 | deadcat | JeffH_: although if you want a static gal genreator. igal is easy and simple |
| 05:56.07 | JeffH_ | deadcat: gal? |
| 05:56.12 | sith-dog | Penix, WHAT does your nick mean!? |
| 05:56.15 | mtnman | dotz: i'm not sure what you are talking about. |
| 05:56.17 | deadcat | JeffH_: gallery |
| 05:56.26 | JeffH_ | hmm. |
| 05:56.29 | Penix | sith-dog: WHAT does YOUR nick mean!/ |
| 05:56.34 | Penix | or ? even |
| 05:56.41 | dotz | mtnman: equivs is a program, that helps building packages. |
| 05:56.46 | deadcat | JeffH: thats not what you want? you want album? try gallery2, but it seems confusing |
| 05:56.57 | deadcat | but very very popular |
| 05:57.21 | mtnman | dotz: it builds a kind of a dummy package |
| 05:57.30 | JeffH | deadcat: not sure I understand the difference.. I just want something I can dump pics to from my dgital camera then tell my friends the url to view them. |
| 05:57.31 | dotz | mtnman: Mhhhm. |
| 05:57.54 | deadcat | JeffH: libapache-gallery-perl is exactly that.. you just dump to a dir and "forget about it!" |
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| 05:58.02 | mike123 | Anyone know off hand how I can set php syntax highlighting for a .html in vi/vim ? |
| 05:58.16 | mtnman | dotz: however, it seems that update-alternatives is a better solution to your problem. |
| 05:58.19 | JeffH | deadcat: will it let me augment with notes/descriptions? |
| 05:58.22 | deadcat | mike123: syntax on dont work? |
| 05:58.31 | dotz | mtnman: This sucks :S |
| 05:58.33 | deadcat | JeffH: you can do filename.comment |
| 05:58.36 | jm_ | mike123: :help syntax |
| 05:58.41 | deadcat | JeffH: or dirname.comment |
| 05:58.58 | JeffH | okay.. sounds like that's what I want.. thanks. |
| 05:59.12 | deadcat | JeffH: ya. gallery.sshonly.sytes.net is what i have right now. |
| 06:00.07 | deadcat | JeffH: this dir has comment gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/for.sale/, the comment file is for.sale.comment same thing with images |
| 06:00.36 | JeffH | gallery may have been what I looked at a while back.. As I recall there's a windows client to make file uploads easy. |
| 06:00.56 | jm_ | you only need a web browser |
| 06:01.08 | deadcat | JeffH: but you still have to upload each file. what i do now is just mv *.jpg /var/www/gallery/dirname |
| 06:01.40 | jm_ | gallery allowed you to upload zip file with the pics and it could handle that just fine |
| 06:01.58 | deadcat | jm_: ya.. the word is upload |
| 06:02.12 | JeffH | will it let me organize pictures into 'sub-albums'? |
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| 06:02.32 | deadcat | JeffH: you just setup in dir tree format |
| 06:02.45 | bodom | can anyone tell me what it says when they press ctrl+alt+backspace? |
| 06:03.05 | Penix | bodom: go away |
| 06:03.17 | bodom | = / |
| 06:03.25 | JeffH | cool. thanks a ton.. time to go publish my pics of hiking my first 14k mountain. |
| 06:03.26 | Penix | :) |
| 06:03.27 | bodom | some guy in #linux said do it so i did & nothing happens |
| 06:03.35 | bodom | he said it fix my audio problem |
| 06:03.39 | Penix | hehe |
| 06:03.41 | mtnman | jeffh: where? |
| 06:03.48 | bodom | er = / |
| 06:03.51 | deadcat | JeffH: cool. |
| 06:04.00 | bodom | not very friendly to teh newbies lol |
| 06:04.05 | JeffH | mtman: Mt Bierstadt, near Georgetown, Colorado. |
| 06:04.17 | mtnman | jeffh: that's close to where i live. |
| 06:04.25 | JeffH | mtn: Denver? |
| 06:04.30 | mtnman | summit county |
| 06:04.40 | JeffH | cool.. Littleton here. |
| 06:04.51 | JeffH | you in Breck? |
| 06:04.53 | mtnman | if i lived in denver i'd call myself frontrangeman |
| 06:05.01 | JeffH | haha true enough. |
| 06:05.17 | JeffH | Gonna go do Greys/Torry's (sp) in about 6 weeks. |
| 06:06.02 | JeffH | My legs are killing me today and Bierstadt is one of the 'easy' 14ers. |
| 06:06.27 | mtnman | jeffh: i rarely hike a mountain w/o my skis. not enough snow this time of year. |
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| 06:07.01 | JeffH | that's cool. I just haven't gotten into the snowboarding/skiing thing.. |
| 06:07.16 | JeffH | Love Colorado though. |
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| 06:08.31 | JeffH | deadcat: is gallery the same thing as the libapache-gallery-mod? |
| 06:09.04 | deadcat | JeffH: thats exactly what it is. although i am using apache1.3 dondelelcaro said theres a bug with apache2 |
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| 06:09.17 | JeffH | hmm |
| 06:09.25 | JeffH | well, I'll give it a try. |
| 06:09.41 | deadcat | JeffH: if you use 1.3 you have nothing to worry about (= |
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| 06:10.15 | jm_ | no it's not the same, libapache-gallery is something simple |
| 06:10.38 | deadcat | libapache-gallery-perl.. not -mod (= |
| 06:10.38 | JeffH | yeah, but my server is apache2 and all my other web stuff works just fine.. Do you know the nature of the bug dondelelcaro was talking about? |
| 06:11.05 | deadcat | JeffH: i dont remember the bts number |
| 06:11.39 | JeffH | hmm.. that is different than gallery.. maybe I'll take a look at gallery given the bug you've mentione in libapache-gallery-perl. |
| 06:12.04 | deadcat | JeffH: ya. its diff from gallery2 |
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| 06:12.29 | streuner | deadcat: how do you 'adress' those folder with gallery.blah.blah.net? |
| 06:12.47 | deadcat | streuner: address? subdomain.. sub.subdomain |
| 06:13.07 | streuner | deadcat: well, its the same IP |
| 06:13.36 | deadcat | streuner: i setup a subdomain gallery for my dyn domain. |
| 06:14.06 | streuner | deadcat: thanks |
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| 06:28.26 | deadcat | a2en<tab> |
| 06:28.37 | JeffH | thanks. |
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| 06:29.12 | trend | hello |
| 06:29.20 | trend | How would I connect visually from a windows computer to linux? Is the best solution VNC? |
| 06:29.29 | trend | I would prefer a secure solution though |
| 06:29.57 | deadcat | trend: ya. vnc is the choice |
| 06:30.08 | trend | but VNC isn't secure (?) |
| 06:30.15 | trend | I know it use not to be |
| 06:30.21 | deadcat | trend: you can tunnel them through ssh |
| 06:30.30 | trend | good point |
| 06:30.47 | Ecligprs | hmm |
| 06:31.01 | trend | I wonder if I could make the vnc client software take up my whole screen on windows.. like take over it |
| 06:31.04 | Nurbs | one can use X forwarding and an X server on Windows, too |
| 06:31.12 | Nurbs | trend: yes. |
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| 06:32.12 | trend | hm |
| 06:32.40 | trend | when i try to maximize the screen.. the resolution because an issue.. like the remote computer is 800x640.. and local is 1280x1024 |
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| 06:32.48 | cafuego | trend: vnc tunneled through ssh. |
| 06:32.56 | manas | ftp |
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| 06:33.02 | Che | ALL HI |
| 06:33.04 | cafuego | bah, /me is slow |
| 06:33.14 | trend | so I see a small window inside of the maxed window.. and this small window is the remote computer |
| 06:33.30 | streuner | You never was fast :-P |
| 06:33.37 | deadcat | hahah |
| 06:33.42 | Nurbs | trend: well, you'd have to adjust the resolution locally to 800x640 (?) then, probably. |
| 06:33.45 | Che | how i can to russian line of this chanel? |
| 06:34.29 | cafuego | !ru |
| 06:34.30 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 06:35.00 | Che | thx, understood |
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| 06:36.14 | streuner | cafuego: How was vacation, any pictures? |
| 06:37.13 | cafuego | streuner: I had no vacation.. only a day in perth. Wife did china. www.pumble.org/china |
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| 06:38.24 | cafuego | the thingie on the wall is the Coke/Olympic committeee partnership renewal ceremony |
| 06:38.50 | deadcat | what thingy? |
| 06:39.08 | cafuego | deadcat: "bunch of people milling about" |
| 06:39.19 | deadcat | o |
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| 06:45.25 | trend | hmm |
| 06:45.48 | trend | how can I set Gnome or kde as my default GUI in VNC? |
| 06:46.24 | jm_ | read the docs in /usr/share/doc/pkgname |
| 06:48.01 | Nurbs | trend: vncserver uses ~/.vnc/xstartup which is quite similar to ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession), so you can place a "exec gnome-session" or "exec startkde" in there. |
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| 06:49.07 | trend | hmm |
| 06:49.10 | trend | i was just in there |
| 06:49.14 | trend | yeah! |
| 06:49.18 | Ecligprs | isn't vnc through ssh quite slow?-p |
| 06:49.18 | trend | it is running twm instead |
| 06:49.19 | trend | thanks |
| 06:49.27 | trend | is it? I am just using this at home |
| 06:49.52 | Ecligprs | well ok, I wouldn't use it on slower than 10Mbps full duplex though :) |
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| 06:50.26 | trend | soo... I would just change out twm & with with exec gnome-session in: |
| 06:50.26 | trend | [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup |
| 06:50.26 | trend | [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources |
| 06:50.26 | trend | xsetroot -solid grey |
| 06:50.26 | trend | vncconfig -iconic & |
| 06:50.26 | trend | xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & |
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| 06:50.35 | trend | well crap |
| 06:50.38 | Ecligprs | gosh |
| 06:50.40 | Ecligprs | don't do that |
| 06:50.45 | Ecligprs | you'll flood me out too |
| 06:50.47 | trend | did that paste 4 or 5 lines? |
| 06:50.53 | Ecligprs | I'm on gprs, for christs sake :) |
| 06:50.58 | Ecligprs | 5 lines |
| 06:50.59 | trend | or just 2 lines? |
| 06:51.02 | trend | crap.. sorry |
| 06:51.11 | deadcat | Ecligprs: gprs? is taht slow? |
| 06:51.13 | trend | I am using trillian.. and It looked like only 2 lines |
| 06:51.22 | Ecligprs | deadcat, very :) |
| 06:51.27 | trend | Ecligprs what kind of phone you have? |
| 06:51.28 | deadcat | Ecligprs: heheh.. |
| 06:51.32 | Ecligprs | I get ~30 sec lag in irc if I open google |
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| 06:51.41 | Ecligprs | siemens S55 |
| 06:51.47 | trend | wait.. back to my question :) so just swap out twm & with exec gnome-session ? |
| 06:52.00 | deadcat | trend: try it |
| 06:52.29 | Ecligprs | gprs on a train is even worse |
| 06:52.35 | Ecligprs | I got disconnected all the time :) |
| 06:52.37 | trend | wow.. I don't know if I would ever try IRC on anything less than a pda |
| 06:52.40 | deadcat | Ecligprs: hahah |
| 06:52.54 | trend | Who is your cell carrier? |
| 06:52.57 | Ecligprs | trend, I'm using my laptop to chat |
| 06:53.04 | trend | oh... |
| 06:53.06 | trend | i see |
| 06:53.12 | Ecligprs | bluetooth connection to phone |
| 06:53.14 | smartbhai | hi people can anyone tell me where to get a driver for the via VT8378 chipset for debian |
| 06:53.30 | deadcat | Ecligprs: no one next to you right? sniff sniff (= |
| 06:53.51 | Ecligprs | I was just having the same idea |
| 06:53.52 | Ecligprs | :p |
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| 06:54.06 | deadcat | Ecligprs: hahahah. i guess we're both evil |
| 06:54.58 | trend | I wonder if I have to restart the VNC-server |
| 06:55.01 | trend | because it isn't working.. |
| 06:55.18 | Ecligprs | bah |
| 06:55.21 | Ecligprs | none found :< |
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| 06:55.27 | Ecligprs | how boring |
| 06:55.40 | deadcat | Ecligprs: what software you use for bluetooth funs? |
| 06:55.59 | Ecligprs | just the stuff from bluez-* packages |
| 06:56.04 | deadcat | cool |
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| 06:56.37 | Ecligprs | uh |
| 06:56.40 | Ecligprs | my xmms died |
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| 06:57.57 | Ecligprs | gah |
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| 06:58.21 | Ecligprs | I need to register my nick so that I can join #java :< |
| 06:58.29 | trend_ | [02:58] Zeynep-[23f]: http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 06:58.33 | trend_ | kick the bastard |
| 06:58.35 | deadcat | Ecligprs: fuck them |
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| 06:58.43 | Penguin | emacs |
| 06:58.52 | Ecligprs | vim |
| 06:59.09 | Scorpaen | nano |
| 06:59.27 | Penguin | <Zeynep-[23f]> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos ！！！ |
| 06:59.37 | deadcat | Zeynep-[23f]: dammit. its bad porn. )= i typed the credit card number and it didnt work |
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| 06:59.59 | deadcat | !ops Zeynep-[23f] porn bot |
| 07:00.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Zeynep-[23f] porn bot |
| 07:00.01 | liable | Penguin: you can call ops, just do !ops foo is a porn spammer |
| 07:00.12 | Penguin | where is the @? |
| 07:00.15 | liable | Penguin: like that :) |
| 07:00.30 | liable | Penguin: dpkg's call is ! |
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| 07:00.54 | Penguin | !ops Zeynep-[23f] is porn spammer |
| 07:00.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Zeynep-[23f] is porn spammer |
| 07:00.58 | toresbe | why the HELL is my computer suddenly prioritizing DNS over /etc/hosts?! |
| 07:01.01 | smartbhai | hey people .. anyone from india here |
| 07:01.08 | Penguin | liable, thx.:) |
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| 07:01.25 | deadcat | smartbhai: nope |
| 07:01.37 | deadcat | !india |
| 07:01.37 | dpkg | hmm... india is a shit place where you can only get slackware, or paradise on earth, or http://linuxinindia.pitas.com |
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| 07:01.50 | DrZoot | is there any reason why Zeynep-[23f] is trying to give me "free prono videos" ?? |
| 07:01.57 | DrZoot | any good reason i mean |
| 07:01.59 | deadcat | hmm. no india channel |
| 07:02.06 | streuner | DrZoot: money |
| 07:02.13 | deadcat | DrZoot: maybe he has good porns.. |
| 07:02.19 | streuner | hehe |
| 07:02.39 | DrZoot | deadcat: im fairly sure ive got good pron but im not shouting it from the rooftops |
| 07:02.55 | deadcat | DrZoot: he likes to brag.. |
| 07:03.17 | toresbe | smartbhai: Quite likely, why? |
| 07:03.21 | browm | how to group a user from different location so that only this ppl can access the server in the network? |
| 07:03.38 | smartbhai | toresbe : just for achat |
| 07:03.42 | DrZoot | anyone know how to pin one repos above another? |
| 07:03.48 | smartbhai | toresbe: where u from |
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| 07:03.53 | toresbe | ah, dunno. I'm from Norway :) |
| 07:03.57 | deadcat | browm: access like what protocol? |
| 07:04.04 | toresbe | It's like India, but with shoddier food |
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| 07:04.13 | EdsipeR | i need some help |
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| 07:04.25 | streuner | thanks mentor |
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| 07:04.27 | deadcat | Ecligprs: /topic |
| 07:04.30 | browm | internet protocol |
| 07:04.31 | stumbles | hi, i have two debian machines on a home network with a printer attached to one. The printer is configured and works well via CUPS. What do i need to look into to allow printing over the network from the other machine? |
| 07:04.37 | EdsipeR | when i try to install a new package i receive E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
| 07:04.44 | deadcat | browm: like all of them? you dont |
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| 07:05.23 | defcon8 | w00t |
| 07:05.24 | defcon8 | Guerin, you there? im in istanbul now |
| 07:05.35 | stumbles | DrZoot: I have 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' inside my /etc/apt/apt.conf which does it for me |
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| 07:06.16 | DrZoot | stumbles: ill check it out, thanks |
| 07:06.28 | stumbles | DrZoot: it's in the apt-howto anyhow |
| 07:08.34 | paivakil | stumbles: tell cups to enabl printing over the network |
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| 07:09.13 | paivakil | go to http://localhost:631 |
| 07:09.14 | toresbe | Hmm, how can I make /etc/hosts override my DNS server |
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| 07:10.00 | EdsipeR | when i try to install a new package i receive E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
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| 07:10.23 | streuner | toresbe: /etc/hosts is first prior, isn't it? |
| 07:10.42 | toresbe | streuner: Nope |
| 07:10.55 | paivakil | toresbe: what do you want to do? |
| 07:10.57 | toresbe | tore@fortran:~$ grep uio /etc/hosts |
| 07:10.57 | toresbe | 127.000.000.001 pop.uio.no smtp.online.no cvs.alioth.debian.org |
| 07:11.04 | toresbe | tore@fortran:~$ ping pop.uio.no |
| 07:11.04 | toresbe | PING pop.uio.no (129.240.10.11) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 07:11.04 | s_ward | toresbe, streuner: check the order in /etc/host.conf |
| 07:11.12 | stumbles | paivakil: i had a look before i came on but couldn't find a option that looked anything like that |
| 07:11.33 | toresbe | s_ward: order hosts,bind |
| 07:11.33 | toresbe | multi on |
| 07:11.55 | streuner | s_ward: i said, system looks first in /etc/hosts - then at extern DNS servers... |
| 07:12.07 | s_ward | toresbe, then hosts should be first, strange |
| 07:12.27 | s_ward | streuner, yes, sorry |
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| 07:13.34 | toresbe | tore@fortran:~$ ping localhost |
| 07:13.34 | toresbe | ping: unknown host localhost |
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| 07:13.39 | toresbe | what the ..HELL? |
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| 07:13.53 | toresbe | it completely disregards the file |
| 07:14.24 | s_ward | toresbe, localhost should be in your hosts file, on the 127.0.0.1 line |
| 07:14.32 | streuner | yeah |
| 07:14.54 | toresbe | s_ward: I have multiple 127 lines |
| 07:14.58 | streuner | zerberus:/# cat /etc/hosts |
| 07:14.58 | streuner | 127.0.0.1 zerberus localhost |
| 07:15.06 | s_ward | toresbe, use one, with multiple aliases on it |
| 07:15.11 | Phated | That might confuse it, don't you think? |
| 07:15.34 | xinud | Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0000003c |
| 07:15.53 | stumbles | paivakil: sorry was dc |
| 07:15.55 | paivakil | toresbe: use 127.0.0.1 foo bar foobar localhost foo.bar bar.foo |
| 07:15.57 | toresbe | It's never confused it before |
| 07:16.00 | Phated | toresbe: For your uio entry, you might want to use the private LAN address of it, instead of 127.0.0.1. Alternatively, just alias a lot of things to 127.0.0.1. |
| 07:16.01 | xinud | on debian sarge ,wat could be the cause ? |
| 07:16.44 | toresbe | OK, I've wiped the misc lines |
| 07:16.47 | streuner | deadcat: How did you set the subdomain up - in /etc/hosts? |
| 07:17.03 | deadcat | streuner: not /etc/hosts, apache |
| 07:17.12 | toresbe | 127.000.000.001 localhost |
| 07:17.24 | streuner | deadcat: what's the line? |
| 07:17.54 | streuner | toresbe: why not 127.0.0.1? |
| 07:17.59 | defcon8 | lol toresbe |
| 07:18.04 | toresbe | streuner: it lookes cooler this way :P |
| 07:18.12 | s_ward | okayeeeee |
| 07:18.19 | streuner | ok, but it doesn't work :-P |
| 07:18.40 | deadcat | streuner: sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/vhost.conf |
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| 07:18.52 | streuner | deadcat: again, thanks |
| 07:19.02 | TyreseJones | How can i check that my NFS exports are working? |
| 07:19.06 | toresbe | streuner: It's always worked before |
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| 07:20.09 | deadcat | TyreseJones: exportfs -v |
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| 07:21.54 | id | if i have a 3ware RAID controller with irq 10 and a tg3 LAN (onboard) with also irq 10 assigned - is there a way to change the irq for ONE device without moving the RAID controller from one PCI slot to another ? |
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| 07:21.59 | toresbe | streuner: It worked until I set up dnsmasq on my WRT54G |
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| 07:24.45 | toresbe | tore@fortran:~$ grep fortran /etc/hosts |
| 07:24.45 | toresbe | 192.168.001.101 fortran fortran.babel |
| 07:24.45 | toresbe | tore@fortran:~$ ping fortran.babel |
| 07:24.45 | toresbe | ping: unknown host fortran.babel |
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| 07:25.12 | Ecligprs | !topicbadger toresbe |
| 07:25.14 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that toresbe didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 07:25.22 | MastrYoda | How do I install java with firefox...so I can play pogo games? |
| 07:25.36 | toresbe | apologees, that was supposed to have been a URL to the pastebin page :P |
| 07:25.40 | Ecligprs | MastrYoda, /msg dpkg java-package |
| 07:26.17 | SimonRaven | toresbe: put the .babel one first, and why the 001 bit? why not just 1? |
| 07:26.34 | toresbe | SimonRaven: Because it looks neater. It has no effect. |
| 07:26.36 | streuner | SimonRaven: look cooler |
| 07:26.41 | streuner | ;-) |
| 07:26.44 | SimonRaven | whateva :) |
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| 07:26.58 | SimonRaven | to me it just looks confusing |
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| 07:27.16 | MastrYoda | ok Ecligprs java-package is installed |
| 07:27.16 | liable | toresbe: fortran and 192.168.1.101 work? |
| 07:27.25 | MastrYoda | But it doesn't show in my about:plugins for firefox |
| 07:27.35 | s_ward | I wonder what he'll do if he ever starts adding IPv6 addresses |
| 07:27.36 | SimonRaven | um, quit the browser first |
| 07:27.39 | Ecligprs | MastrYoda, instaling java-package alone won't install java :) |
| 07:27.46 | MastrYoda | I have java installed |
| 07:27.47 | SimonRaven | yeh, that too |
| 07:27.53 | MastrYoda | root@debian:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29# ls |
| 07:27.54 | MastrYoda | libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 07:27.57 | streuner | liable: nah, he already said, nothing (DNS) works on his system anymore |
| 07:27.59 | Ecligprs | MastrYoda, you need to download the bin installer from java.sun.com and use make-jpkg on it |
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| 07:28.18 | Ecligprs | MastrYoda, symlink that to firefox plugin directory then? |
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| 07:28.54 | toresbe | liable: fortran doesn't |
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| 07:29.10 | toresbe | liable: neither does 192.168.1.101 atm, but that's another story |
| 07:29.35 | MastrYoda | @debian:~/.mozilla/plugins$ ln -s /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so . |
| 07:29.42 | MastrYoda | Ecligprs: when I start firefox it crashes now |
| 07:29.48 | Ecligprs | hehheh |
| 07:29.53 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 07:30.00 | toresbe | http://pastebin.com/332716 |
| 07:30.01 | Ecligprs | the java-package made installer creates these |
| 07:30.10 | toresbe | that's a couple relevant files |
| 07:30.21 | toresbe | I think this is my OpenWRT box screwing everything up for me. |
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| 07:31.11 | Ecligprs | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.37 | Ecligprs | MastrYoda, try removing the java and installing it with java-package way |
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| 07:31.53 | SimonRaven | probably just a lib conflict |
| 07:32.07 | Ecligprs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:32.58 | Ecligprs | uh |
| 07:33.06 | Ecligprs | laptop almost out of battery |
| 07:33.58 | kadigibox | Question. Are Mac laptops more compatible with Linux then ix86 laptops? |
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| 07:34.38 | streuner | kadigibox: no |
| 07:34.44 | Ecligprs | aww shit |
| 07:34.45 | liable | toresbe: you should be able to ping your local network address at least.. |
| 07:34.48 | streuner | kadigibox: i386 is very popular... |
| 07:34.56 | Ecligprs | my phone's charger broke again |
| 07:35.06 | kadigibox | what are issues with Mac Laptops then? |
| 07:35.20 | SimonRaven | kadigibox: that's not a question |
| 07:35.26 | kadigibox | I have a hell of a time with ix86 laptops when it comes to wifi and modem |
| 07:35.42 | SimonRaven | that's like asking what's bluer, a blueberry or a blueberry |
| 07:35.50 | kadigibox | I am trying to find something that is more compatible to put linux on |
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| 07:36.08 | toresbe | liable: I am/ |
| 07:36.10 | streuner | kadigibox: Linux or Debian? |
| 07:36.19 | toresbe | liable: I can ping my local IP |
| 07:36.19 | SimonRaven | it's not whether or not it's a mac or an x86, it's whether or not the hardware is supported |
| 07:36.20 | kadigibox | Debian is linux |
| 07:36.24 | streuner | no |
| 07:36.27 | SimonRaven | not only |
| 07:36.39 | streuner | are apples bananas? |
| 07:36.42 | Ecligprs | my laptop is fully linux compatible :p |
| 07:36.43 | kadigibox | Gnu/Linux then |
| 07:36.43 | nkuttler | kadigibox: wifi, graphics, and modem are probably not supported 100% |
| 07:36.48 | toresbe | liable: I fixed the LAN IP mess |
| 07:36.48 | toresbe | tore@fortran:~$ ping fortran |
| 07:36.49 | toresbe | PING fortran.babel (192.168.1.101) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 07:36.49 | Ecligprs | but this is also 5 years old |
| 07:37.01 | SimonRaven | kadigibox: not only. it's also hurd, and *bsd |
| 07:37.06 | toresbe | But it still completely disregards /etc/hosts |
| 07:37.23 | nkuttler | kadigibox: and there's the 'risk' of liking os x more that debian |
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| 07:37.29 | nkuttler | s/that/than/ |
| 07:37.43 | kadigibox | I dont want to use OSx |
| 07:37.43 | toresbe | uh |
| 07:37.53 | toresbe | no it doesn't... what the hell is wrong with this machine |
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| 07:38.08 | SimonRaven | tail syslog for a start ;) |
| 07:38.12 | toresbe | I don't believe this |
| 07:38.20 | toresbe | It actually was the zero padding |
| 07:38.23 | kadigibox | anyway I am trying to find a laptop that everything on it is compaitble. I was thinking that perhaps a mac laptop would be more supportive |
| 07:38.30 | SimonRaven | sounds like something died. s/w wise |
| 07:38.34 | toresbe | Why the hell has this *changed*?! |
| 07:39.04 | streuner | kadigibox: /msg dpkg laptops |
| 07:39.07 | nkuttler | kadigibox: no 3d, no wifi, no modem afaik. do some research. i'd bet an ibm would suit your needs better |
| 07:39.12 | SimonRaven | kadigibox: just like on x86, older mac ppc lappies are better supported. this has always been true |
| 07:39.32 | Ecligprs | gah |
| 07:39.36 | yoo | Hi all ! |
| 07:39.36 | Ecligprs | I need to buy a new phone |
| 07:40.13 | defcon8 | i need to buy some food but i just cant be arsed so im living on fruit juice and corn flakes atm |
| 07:40.14 | SimonRaven | new phone? we've had the same phone for like close to 10 years. it isn't a cell phone though ;) |
| 07:40.15 | kadigibox | I heard of laptops made for linux. does anyone know anything about thoes cause I couldnt find any |
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| 07:40.22 | defcon8 | cant really be arsed to do net shopping either |
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| 07:41.19 | liable | kadigibox: you cant go wrong with a thinkpad :) (except maybe if the newer ones have ati's that arent supported for 3d) |
| 07:41.23 | SimonRaven | kadigibox: i think you'll be better served by visiting some of the linux on laptop sites |
| 07:41.37 | liable | tuxmobil! |
| 07:41.40 | nkuttler | kadigibox: pic a model, look at it's specs, look if there are drivers, done |
| 07:41.43 | SimonRaven | ...and doing a lot of research |
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| 07:45.52 | litage_ | any suggestions or experiences with load balancing? |
| 07:46.17 | dimir | Morning. |
| 07:46.35 | dimir | litage_: openmosix |
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| 07:46.45 | dimir | that's the only one I've tried |
| 07:46.48 | dimir | :-P |
| 07:47.11 | toresbe | liable: support for the R300 cores is coming up! :) |
| 07:47.14 | litage_ | dimir: what's your experience with it been like? |
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| 07:47.31 | kadigibox | is there a way to make a virtual partition by mounting a fixed size file as a file system? |
| 07:48.04 | Ecligprs | my phone battery charger works only when the cord is in certain position :p |
| 07:48.12 | liable | toresbe: yeah, I dont mind, dont game, but you know how impatient some gamers are :) |
| 07:48.27 | dimir | litage_: I built the kernel with openmosix patch and openmosix tools packages for clusters and installed them on an identical machines (nodes). |
| 07:48.37 | nkuttler | kadigibox: i think you want to man mount and search for loop device |
| 07:49.03 | toresbe | liable: I don't game very much either, but 3D support is going to become fairly important on desktops |
| 07:49.09 | dimir | litage_: then I configured the nodes and voila |
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| 07:49.49 | dimir | litage_: but it was about 3 years ago, I don't know, maybe nowadays they use something else |
| 07:50.13 | litage_ | oh heheh! 3 years! :) thanks for the suggestion though, i'll give it a whirl |
| 07:50.37 | dimir | litage_: :-P |
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| 07:51.24 | ticktoc | i have laptop w/win2k that needs to print occasionally so I started smb on my sarge system, edited smb.conf and edited the workgroup, changed print system to cups, and security to share.. However, my linux box isn't showing up ANYWHERE on the doe$ system.. the only system that shows up is the laptop... |
| 07:51.26 | dimir | litage_: well, it seams to me it's still alive and kicking: http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:51.50 | litage_ | yup! |
| 07:52.40 | zOap | ticktoc, tried searching for machine in doze? |
| 07:52.44 | dimir | litage_: and Debian has it |
| 07:52.45 | liable | ticktoc: can you serach and find it? |
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| 07:52.58 | ticktoc | sorry... didn't try that approach... |
| 07:53.02 | ticktoc | :-( |
| 07:53.21 | dimir | litage_: I thought being there for many years was a good thingie ;-) |
| 07:53.26 | ticktoc | do i need to set up something on the windoes box? |
| 07:53.45 | zOap | the prinerdriver? |
| 07:53.51 | litage_ | dimir: it is! :) my comment was on how it was 3 years ago that you used it, not that it's old |
| 07:54.58 | ticktoc | give me a sec... i need to go to other room and boot up laptop again.. (i gave up earlier) and try the search thingie.. brb.. |
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| 07:56.20 | dimir | litage_: oh, and it was doing it's job very well at that time, I must say :-) |
| 07:58.05 | ticktoc | liable: no luck searching for computer on the laptap... |
| 07:59.17 | liable | ticktoc: can you ping it? did you serach by name? is the name in the hosts file for the win box? |
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| 07:59.48 | litage_ | dimir: awesome possum |
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| 08:00.28 | ticktoc | liable: ping works, i can also ftp to my linux ftp server... and http://to.my.i.p... just samba.. |
| 08:00.50 | ticktoc | just samba not wanting to cooperate :0( |
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| 08:01.21 | ticktoc | do i need to have a lmhosts file in my /etc/samba/ dir? |
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| 08:02.59 | ticktoc | liable: btw... also changed name resolver order to just bcast cause i'll just use samba here in the house behind a router w/fw and should be safe.. |
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| 08:06.43 | liable | ticktoc: sec, phone |
| 08:07.11 | Penguin | liable, ni shi ge hao ren.:) |
| 08:08.00 | ticktoc | liable: np.. |
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| 08:11.34 | rixth | Gah, Space Shuttle lands in just over 2 hours. |
| 08:11.57 | rixth | I wish them luck, too bad we don't get NASA TV here. |
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| 08:12.45 | zOap | ticktoc, do you find other win machines in your lan manager? |
| 08:13.29 | The_Ultimate_Sam | how do i add something to my K menu |
| 08:13.53 | ticktoc | z0ap: no... only the laptop shows up no matter how many systems are up (currently 3 on the lan) |
| 08:13.55 | pirre | The_Ultimate_Sam: #kde ? |
| 08:14.00 | Fanno | i think i have seen a tool somwhere for that |
| 08:14.32 | zOap | oh, well, thenit could be a doze prob? |
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| 08:15.24 | ticktoc | i have a test box beside me that has a ps that gets to hot to use it very long but it has w2k on it too and it has the same problem with samba as the laptap... |
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| 08:16.01 | zOap | but does the laptop see your y2k? |
| 08:16.18 | ticktoc | yes.. it does.. (sorry) |
| 08:16.34 | ticktoc | it just doesnt' see my linux box.. |
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| 08:17.34 | zOap | ok, well, I had that problem myself, but I could find it in a search. Are you sharing anything on samba which does not demand a user/pass? |
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| 08:17.59 | ticktoc | i applied the reg changes to this test box so it sends plain text pw.. other than that, it's the same as the laptop.. |
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| 08:18.45 | ticktoc | no... not at the moment... i just need to print from the laptop at the moment.. |
| 08:19.23 | zOap | ok, well, this shit happen, samba and doze does not always go well together.. If you are really stuck, download webdrive and use ftp/sftp. webdrive mounts to letters |
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| 08:21.19 | ticktoc | zOap: actually i had this working a long time ago with a different distro (mdk 9.0 i think) and samba 2.<something or other> and it worked fine.... but that was a while back... now i have sarge and sambe 3.X and yikes... it's givin me fits.. |
| 08:22.21 | ticktoc | does ftp/sftp let my laptop print to my linux box?? (never heard of this pkg yet) |
| 08:22.52 | pirre | sftp (1) - secure file transfer program |
| 08:22.57 | zOap | um, damn the printing thingy.. forgot.. sorry. never tried it, don't think so... |
| 08:23.02 | pirre | how is that related to printing? |
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| 08:23.43 | SimonRaven | it isn't |
| 08:23.51 | ticktoc | pirre: we were working on samba print issue... want w2, to print on my linux box printer... |
| 08:23.58 | zOap | pirre, and how does smb - show me your balls, related? |
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| 08:24.08 | zOap | um, well |
| 08:24.27 | pirre | ticktoc: ah |
| 08:25.01 | ticktoc | seee... <g>... i'll get it working.. i know it... but just not tonight... BUT.. one day.. LOL.. |
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| 08:25.26 | zOap | I'm outta here, smb sucks anyway.. |
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| 08:25.44 | ma3x | !msg dpkg font guide |
| 08:25.54 | ma3x | hell i dont see if i type / or ! |
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| 08:25.59 | pirre | zOap: hey, I haven't come up with a witty answer yet |
| 08:26.06 | SimonRaven | s,!,/, |
| 08:26.23 | ma3x | SimonRaven, whats that are you trying to scare me |
| 08:26.36 | SimonRaven | no, correcting you. man sed |
| 08:26.39 | Phated | ma3x: use / |
| 08:27.12 | ma3x | my fonts are worse than yesterday, can't set them up right |
| 08:27.17 | litage_ | what are some disadvantages to using linux-vserver? |
| 08:27.39 | ticktoc | actually.... it wouldn't hurt (me anyway) to ask it anyone has a working smb.conf file that I could look at... i'll open ftp port on my router and you can dl it to alftex.hn.org |
| 08:27.55 | zOap | litage_, why? do you need one?=) |
| 08:28.06 | ma3x | must i reinstall my whole debian for this font situation? |
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| 08:28.19 | ma3x | i've been following font guides all night long, and couldn't fix my font |
| 08:28.47 | zOap | ma3x, reinstalls is for windows, so is restart, reboot, and so on |
| 08:28.48 | litage_ | zOap: yep =P |
| 08:28.52 | b33r_ | ok, i issue this command: fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version "-1-ppc" --revision 2.6.11-10 --added-modules madwifi modules_image And then get this error:Only kernel versions 2.4.x and above are supported. |
| 08:29.13 | b33r_ | You have ..-1-ppc. |
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| 08:29.32 | SimonRaven | looks like a bug to me |
| 08:30.06 | b33r_ | here is the make command the script is using: |
| 08:30.09 | b33r_ | /usr/bin/make -C /usr/src/modules/madwifi KERNELPATH=/usr/src/linux KERNELRELEASE=..-1-ppc TARGET=ppc-elf |
| 08:30.22 | SimonRaven | er |
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| 08:30.54 | zOap | b33r_, just a thought, are you in testing or unstable? |
| 08:31.03 | b33r_ | unstable |
| 08:31.13 | b33r_ | wait |
| 08:31.14 | zOap | b33r_, well, good luck to ya:) |
| 08:31.19 | b33r_ | didnt sarge move to stable? |
| 08:31.24 | zOap | it did |
| 08:31.28 | SimonRaven | yes. from testing |
| 08:31.29 | b33r_ | ok im stable then |
| 08:31.49 | zOap | b33r_, but did you update your sources.list? |
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| 08:32.17 | b33r_ | yes, i was using a sid list |
| 08:32.23 | b33r_ | but i changed it back |
| 08:32.32 | riemensc | good morning |
| 08:32.38 | zOap | ok, cause it looks like a make complain |
| 08:32.53 | SimonRaven | looks like a buggered up script to me |
| 08:33.01 | riemensc | ive got a problem with gcc3-3 i use debian sarge i enter by kernel make menuconfig and the pc answer error1 & error2 |
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| 08:33.30 | b33r_ | http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi |
| 08:33.35 | b33r_ | is the script im using |
| 08:33.43 | riemensc | ive install gcc2-95 and have the same problem |
| 08:33.44 | SimonRaven | riemensc: yeh, we're really good mind readers here, so you don't have to tell us WTF all that meant |
| 08:33.49 | zOap | well, just some thoughts, now I'll bug out:) |
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| 08:34.32 | riemensc | everbuddy speak german? |
| 08:34.50 | SimonRaven | #debian.de does |
| 08:35.04 | az[a]zel | hello network gurus. I have a device wlan0 that has gotten dhcp info from a gateway, but no traffic will go over it. Any ideas? It is likely conflicting with eth0 |
| 08:35.30 | SimonRaven | don't /msg me |
| 08:35.58 | Gumby | I am trying to mount my initrd.img, edit a file, and then recompress it. I've been told I need to gzip it first but it doesnt seem to be a gzip archive. I can just mount it, but when I do it wont let me write to it even though its mounted rw. Can anyone possibly lend a hand? |
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| 08:38.03 | az[a]zel | my question basically is, how does one add wlan0 to the kernel routing table? |
| 08:38.41 | deadcat | az[a]zel: same as ethX |
| 08:38.44 | EfaistOs | does someone have an epson AcuLaser C1100 ? |
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| 08:39.22 | SimonRaven | no, no-one has ever had one besides you |
| 08:39.32 | deadcat | SimonRaven: he has the limited edition |
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| 08:40.05 | EfaistOs | during the configure it asks some cups-config file but I cant find it ... does someone have an idea in which package is it ? |
| 08:40.07 | Sarg3 | lol! |
| 08:40.15 | Sarg3 | apt-get install glib* |
| 08:40.23 | Sarg3 | it install all of dependences |
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| 08:40.46 | deadcat | what lang is the word Moskau? |
| 08:40.55 | az[a]zel | deadcat: route add default gw 192.168.1.1 wlan0 comes back with "network is unreachable".. I guess it's a different problem |
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| 08:41.17 | deadcat | az[a]zel: dev |
| 08:41.32 | deadcat | az[a]zel: did you man route? |
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| 08:41.56 | SimonRaven | indeed |
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| 08:43.21 | ceee | Hi. what's /etc/ld.so.nohwcap for? I'm trying to run a program, which doesn't work until now. strace tells that it tries to acces /etc/ld.so.nohwcap. But what is this file? for what? from which package? |
| 08:43.25 | liable | az[a]zel: take down eth0, unless you want the box to be a router, in which case your route cmd was wrong.. |
| 08:43.50 | deadcat | whats the diff between bittorrent and bittorando anyway? |
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| 08:44.09 | b33r_ | zOap: i upaded my sources.list file and replaced testing with stable |
| 08:44.13 | liable | same protocol, different client.. |
| 08:44.15 | b33r_ | updated apt |
| 08:44.33 | liable | b33r_: um, doesnt work that way.. |
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| 08:44.51 | b33r_ | liable: it doesnt? |
| 08:44.53 | deadcat | liable: i mean like features. i dont notice the diff at all. it used to be q to quit in nado, but now my friend said torrent has it too |
| 08:44.55 | SimonRaven | b33r_: good way to break the system FYI |
| 08:45.09 | izzyb | anyone know what the default password would be for debian sarge? |
| 08:45.12 | b33r_ | well |
| 08:45.17 | b33r_ | looks like a format is in store |
| 08:45.18 | SimonRaven | izzyb: no such thing |
| 08:45.19 | deadcat | izzyb: none |
| 08:45.22 | izzyb | I did a apt-get install base-password |
| 08:45.26 | liable | deadcat: yeah, dunno, only used bittorent, it worked ok, so I stuck with it. :) |
| 08:45.34 | deadcat | liable: ya. (= |
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| 08:45.38 | izzyb | to repare a goof I did on it |
| 08:45.43 | SimonRaven | izzyb: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
| 08:45.44 | ma3x | maybe he hit enter while asking him for pass |
| 08:45.46 | deadcat | izzyb: dpkg -L !$ |
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| 08:46.05 | liable | b33r_: yeah, if you dabbled in testing and want to go back, re-install is best. |
| 08:46.09 | deadcat | ma3x: ya. that will escape the program |
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| 08:46.33 | ma3x | deadcat, you mean it wont install? |
| 08:46.43 | deadcat | ma3x: no i mean the passwd thing |
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| 08:47.08 | ma3x | yup, so he will have his 'default' password set to nothing |
| 08:47.20 | deadcat | last time listen to Dschinghis Khan -- Moskau, Moskau before i go to sleep and wake up early for LWCE tmomorrow (= |
| 08:47.22 | freewood1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.34 | deadcat | ma3x: no. it wont let him set that passwd. try it |
| 08:47.41 | justnulling2 | i am getting "khubd timed out on ep0in" when attaching usb device is there a fix for it? |
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| 08:48.03 | az[a]zel | liable: for some reason I can't take down eth0.. so I just set it to a different network, and removed it's default gateway information from the routing table.. then I ifdown'ed and up'ed wlan0, and everything seems to be working :) |
| 08:48.04 | ma3x | deadcat, good security feature |
| 08:48.07 | izzyb | SimonRaven: thanks, I kind of figured I'd have to do a boot disk and mount the fs to correct this, but didn't think to do a fsck boot |
| 08:48.08 | SimonRaven | @fix khubd |
| 08:48.11 | deadcat | ma3x: its default. |
| 08:48.45 | liable | az[a]zel: sweet, why cant you bring down eth0 though? |
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| 08:50.34 | ma3x | for Sarge should i use apt-get install msttfonts? |
| 08:50.44 | deadcat | ma3x: sure |
| 08:50.49 | liable | msstcorefonts innit? |
| 08:50.50 | deadcat | if thats what you want to isntall |
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| 08:51.29 | liable | ma3x: you still fucking with fonts?? sheesh :) |
| 08:51.57 | ma3x | liable, I got them better with that bob2 guide, but yet firefox displays terrible |
| 08:51.59 | deadcat | ma3x: just live with bad fonts. (=.. |
| 08:52.08 | ma3x | deadcat, are you really serious? |
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| 08:52.15 | deadcat | ma3x: kde right? |
| 08:52.17 | ma3x | yes |
| 08:52.19 | deadcat | (= |
| 08:52.24 | ma3x | you too? |
| 08:52.27 | deadcat | hell no |
| 08:52.32 | ma3x | icewm?/ |
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| 08:52.46 | deadcat | openbox but ive seen kde screenshots and fonts are bad. |
| 08:53.21 | liable | I have never fucked with the fonts and find them quite acceptable, dunno. Must have low standards. |
| 08:53.29 | ma3x | it depends, on the start it seems marvelous |
| 08:53.32 | deadcat | liable: (= |
| 08:53.38 | ma3x | but then if you screw something, it get ugly |
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| 08:54.23 | deadcat | actually i had problem with fonts after fontconfig upgrade. but fixed it with an older version of /etc/fonts/{local,fonts}.conf |
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| 08:55.18 | izzyb | thanks, I'm back in... had to do the boot cd thing though, kept missing the boot prompt... |
| 08:55.53 | ma3x | deadcat, that might be my problem too. can I get somewhere that copy too? |
| 08:55.57 | Pumpkin_ | 5:30 PM is what in military time? |
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| 08:56.15 | deadcat | ma3x: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/etc/fonts/ |
| 08:56.16 | pirre | 0530 ? |
| 08:56.16 | izzyb | is there an easy way to merge an old password file with a new sarge passwd file? |
| 08:56.23 | pirre | 1730, rather |
| 08:56.29 | ma3x | thanks! |
| 08:56.37 | deadcat | ma3x: sleep time for me. |
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| 08:56.50 | izzyb | foolish me thought I'd just copy over the default sarge password file with the old one I had from a woody testing box |
| 08:56.58 | izzyb | things didn't work right after that :( |
| 08:56.58 | ma3x | sleep well, dream well! |
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| 08:57.09 | liable | izzyb: just do what dpkg told you. |
| 08:57.38 | izzyb | liable: yeah, I fixed the root password thing |
| 08:57.43 | liable | oh. |
| 08:58.18 | izzyb | I'm asking if there's a better way to merge two password files then manaully finding and copying the missing entries |
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| 08:59.25 | liable | !tell {max} about root |
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| 09:00.28 | [machine] | does anyone know what's up with alioth.debian.org? |
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| 09:00.51 | Msoffical | Hey, does anyone know where the config file for cyrus21 is located so i change where the Imap server locates the username & password? |
| 09:01.06 | freddo_ | hello, i'm a first time debian user and i'm trying to set up my computer with the debian netinst for amd64, when i'm trying to 'apt-get install xserver-xorg' (from the faq), apt doesnt find the package (i've setup a few ftp sources, may be i should select some more?). could someone point me to some docs on how to get this working? |
| 09:01.53 | liable | Msoffical: try the man page or dpkg -L cyrus21 |
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| 09:02.12 | fatal__ | freddo_: which version of debian are you running? (cat /etc/*version) |
| 09:02.13 | Msoffical | ok thanks liable :) |
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| 09:02.17 | liable | freddo_: um, xorg isnt available for sarge |
| 09:02.41 | freddo_ | fatal__ : testing/unstable |
| 09:02.55 | liable | freddo_: which faq? |
| 09:03.12 | NetDC | is there any software can instead zend? |
| 09:03.13 | freddo_ | liable : #debian on linuks.mine.nu |
| 09:03.21 | liable | freddo_: strongly not suggested to run testing/unstable to start with. |
| 09:03.23 | Ybbus | Hi I removed the Programm-Bar in KDE (that one that shows a list of the opened programms in the lower middle) and I'm not able to restore it ;) |
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| 09:03.46 | pirre | Ybbus: #kde ? |
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| 09:04.18 | liable | Ybbus: crtl+alt+backspace (if all else fails) |
| 09:04.29 | liable | Ybbus: warning, |
| 09:04.36 | freddo_ | liable : that's what i saw, i just wanted to try anyway ;) if i cant get it working i'll roll back to sarge. i was just wondering why it didnt found the package |
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| 09:04.41 | fatal__ | liable: I'd agree, but hardware support for amd64 hardware in sarge is pretty slim... so often sarge isn't a choice though. |
| 09:05.12 | liable | fatal__: indeed, but theres a amd port, which admitted I know nothing about. |
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| 09:05.31 | liable | Msoffical: please dont /msg me, read /topic |
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| 09:05.58 | liable | freddo_: you cant just roll back to sarge, its a re-install. |
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| 09:06.38 | liable | freddo_: try #debian-amd64, those guys should know :) |
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| 09:07.12 | freddo_ | liable : yes, sorry for that expression, english isnt my mother tongue. ok, i'll have a look at #debian-amd64, thanks |
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| 09:07.25 | dupondje | hi guys, how come when (in my local network) when i upload to the site, download speed drops like hell, from 10mb/sec -> 2mb/sec |
| 09:07.51 | liable | freddo_: no probs, try them, and see how you go, they are the 64 experts. :) |
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| 09:10.59 | balint | can i set the default process priority for a user? |
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| 09:11.09 | t3c0 | hi there |
| 09:11.37 | liable | balint: no idea, but maybe man nice. |
| 09:12.12 | balint | liable, i can use nice, i'm looking for a profile setting |
| 09:12.26 | ma3x | I can't understand this - I have firewire hd. Always when I boot if the hd is ON, I can't mount it. I must first reboot again and boot with HD OFF, and then turn it on and mount. But when every time I forget to turn off the HD during boot, Should I reboot always? |
| 09:13.01 | ma3x | I see no solution to this |
| 09:13.07 | liable | whats the error when mounting it? |
| 09:13.14 | ma3x | mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 09:13.48 | t3c0 | maybe a dirty chipset? |
| 09:14.00 | ma3x | no |
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| 09:14.16 | t3c0 | hmmm... |
| 09:14.24 | ma3x | its just a problem of booting I think |
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| 09:14.35 | trend | how do you add something to the rc*.d levels? |
| 09:14.40 | ma3x | let's say I boot 10 times. 5 Times will be able to mount the drive |
| 09:14.46 | liable | what about unloading modules, turn off, then turn on? |
| 09:14.50 | ma3x | and 5 times will say mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
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| 09:15.26 | AlexW | Hey Room |
| 09:15.26 | ma3x | liable, what modules exactly: ieee1394, then what else? |
| 09:15.26 | liable | even if you turn off, unplug it, then plug in again? |
| 09:15.43 | ma3x | liable, I just turned it off/on but never unplugged it |
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| 09:15.47 | shadeboboo | hi, |
| 09:15.50 | t3c0 | hi |
| 09:15.56 | liable | ma3x: I would imagine thats all for firewire. |
| 09:15.58 | AlexW | anybody here play nettoe :P |
| 09:16.01 | AlexW | im bored |
| 09:16.18 | shadeboboo | how can I close a remote connection on my server? |
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| 09:16.30 | shadeboboo | a remote ssh connection. |
| 09:16.37 | AlexW | pull out the network cable :P |
| 09:16.41 | AlexW | kill the sessions PID |
| 09:16.46 | liable | kill the bash pid |
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| 09:17.03 | Debian | Hi I need help asp please |
| 09:17.09 | AlexW | ps aux then look for the bash PID |
| 09:17.23 | Debian | I just installed guard dog now i am not ableto connect to the internet |
| 09:17.26 | AlexW | eg |
| 09:17.27 | AlexW | alex 1364 0.0 0.9 7184 2236 ? R 19:13 0:00 sshd: alex@pts/0 |
| 09:17.29 | AlexW | :P |
| 09:17.33 | AlexW | yeh anways |
| 09:17.42 | liable | Debian: god help you, guarddog is damn easy. |
| 09:17.43 | Debian | I tried uninstalling it however still not go |
| 09:17.54 | AlexW | Debian, it could be blocking outgoing ports and incoming |
| 09:17.55 | ma3x | liable, i can't unload it FATAL: Module ieee1394 is in use. |
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| 09:18.06 | ma3x | i did lsof | grep ieee1394 but nothing |
| 09:18.07 | Debian | it somehow messed up the internet connection |
| 09:18.08 | liable | ma3x: kill whats using it then |
| 09:18.12 | liable | oh |
| 09:18.23 | ma3x | how i know whats using it? |
| 09:18.26 | liable | ma3x: dmesg show anything? |
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| 09:18.42 | Debian | I'll loose all my data if i can't figure out how to fix this problem |
| 09:18.57 | ma3x | when i turned it off: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 ; ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0010b9210050e8f8] |
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| 09:19.10 | shadeboboo | I have killed PID but with who command session is always active |
| 09:19.11 | AlexW | Debian, How? |
| 09:19.15 | ma3x | ah liable |
| 09:19.17 | ma3x | i got it |
| 09:19.17 | Debian | the only way I can connect to the internet is if I keep Un installing it then Re installing it again |
| 09:19.25 | Debian | No idea |
| 09:19.35 | tosh | anyone know why vsftpd ignores my local_umask of 222? I don't want people to be able to delete their own file uploads |
| 09:19.42 | dupondje | hi guys, how come in my local networki only get 1mb upload & 2mb/sec download speed from/to my linux pc ? its connected @ 100mbit switch :s |
| 09:19.46 | ma3x | liable, i unloaded all. now first turn on HD, or first load modules/ |
| 09:19.51 | Debian | might have something to do with the 2 wire home portal |
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| 09:20.06 | liable | ma3x: from what you said earlier, hd first |
| 09:20.07 | tosh | dupondje are all your interfaces in full duplex? |
| 09:20.13 | Debian | any sugestions |
| 09:20.23 | AlexW | shadeboboo, so are you still connected? |
| 09:20.29 | Debian | yes |
| 09:20.43 | Debian | but if i log out i will not be able to logback in |
| 09:20.45 | ma3x | liable, when i do apt-get install package (may i specify autoclean) at the end |
| 09:20.53 | dupondje | eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 |
| 09:20.54 | ma3x | will that autoclean after the installation of the package? |
| 09:20.59 | AlexW | Debian, how can you lose all your data but? |
| 09:21.07 | dupondje | to other pc in network i get 10mb/sec upload & download |
| 09:21.10 | {max} | hi ! |
| 09:21.17 | AlexW | hi |
| 09:21.28 | Debian | I'll have no choice but to un install and then re install debian again to gain acess to the internet |
| 09:21.28 | {max} | i am trying to configurate a LAN |
| 09:21.35 | dupondje | but to my linux pc i only get 1mb upload & 2mb/sec download |
| 09:21.41 | liable | ma3x: rean the apt-howto, auto clean removes .debs that are no longer available, so will remove the old .deb for that package.. |
| 09:21.41 | {max} | a friewall more exactly |
| 09:21.53 | {max} | s/friewall/firewall |
| 09:21.58 | Debian | please no questiuons if you can help id appreciated it if not let me know |
| 09:22.07 | liable | {max}: could you possibly lose the leading { from your nick? |
| 09:22.09 | {max} | for that i use iptables |
| 09:22.22 | Debian | the connect can drop right now and i'l be sol |
| 09:22.28 | {max} | humm ... |
| 09:22.32 | AlexW | Debian, How old are you? |
| 09:22.48 | {max} | the matter is that every nick i search with max inside are already use ... |
| 09:22.51 | {max} | :( |
| 09:22.56 | Debian | ok you can't help |
| 09:23.02 | Debian | anyne else |
| 09:23.12 | ma3x | liable, one more final quesion: where is the complete debian manual (i was browsing many times on debian.org but it was way difficult for me to find it)? |
| 09:23.16 | Debian | of the connections drops I wil loose all the data |
| 09:23.35 | Debian | I have no idea ma3x |
| 09:23.38 | {max} | is anybody fluent with iptables / ipchains ? |
| 09:23.57 | Fleck | {max} ask ... |
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| 09:24.19 | liable | ma3x: um, you can apt-get debian-reference. dunno about a complete manual.. |
| 09:24.30 | dupondje | what could be the problem i get such slow speeds @ my debian pc ? :s |
| 09:24.32 | Debian | thats fucked up I have no choice but to unstall the os |
| 09:24.42 | liable | ma3x: did your drive work anyway? |
| 09:24.44 | dupondje | broken nic ? or can it be something else ? |
| 09:24.44 | Debian | and loose all the data |
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| 09:25.05 | liable | Debian: wtf, just unistall guarddog if you cant work it out |
| 09:25.14 | Debian | I did |
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| 09:25.36 | Debian | I have to keep un instaling then reinstalling it inorder to get back on |
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| 09:25.54 | ma3x | liable, yes it just worked now! thanks a lot man! |
| 09:25.57 | Debian | nigger rigging will not last much longer |
| 09:26.07 | steini | Debian what about using Bastille-firewall - quite user friendly |
| 09:26.19 | s_ward | Debian, you can try flushing your firewall rules and setting the default policies, see: man iptables |
| 09:26.26 | Debian | I first need to know why the ports are being blocked |
| 09:26.32 | liable | Debian: gods now's what you have done, but guarddog is about as easy as it gets, do you really need a firewall anyway? |
| 09:26.48 | Debian | I just now installed firestarter |
| 09:27.15 | Debian | to hard to explain I just need to know how to make the pc like guard dog was never installed |
| 09:27.41 | Debian | firestarter somehow managed to get me connected |
| 09:27.50 | Debian | over rose the rules on guarddog |
| 09:27.56 | liable | good, be happy :) |
| 09:28.23 | Debian | any sugestions |
| 09:28.31 | dupondje | somebody could help me plz ? :( |
| 09:28.58 | pirre | dupondje: try another nic? |
| 09:28.59 | ma3x | yes, still need however one more X restart for 3D acceleration |
| 09:29.10 | ma3x | (not that i play games, heh... but let it be working) |
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| 09:29.16 | Pego | hi |
| 09:29.18 | dupondje | pirre: sure its not some setting or smth ? |
| 09:29.26 | pirre | dupondje: what nic was it again? |
| 09:29.35 | Debian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:29.44 | s_ward | Debian, what's wrong now, I thought you said you were connected? |
| 09:29.55 | Debian | o my fucking god |
| 09:29.57 | Pego | anyone know a way to use procmail with mysql ? or something that to the same job but with a database ? |
| 09:30.00 | Debian | I wont be for long |
| 09:30.18 | s_ward | Debian, and /msg dpkg ask to see how to ask questions so we will answer them |
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| 09:30.40 | dupondje | VIA Rhine-II |
| 09:30.43 | Debian | sorry the connection is dead |
| 09:30.51 | dupondje | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.53 | liable | right.. |
| 09:31.08 | pirre | dupondje: no idea, sorry |
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| 09:31.23 | s_ward | lastlog dupondje |
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| 09:31.36 | s_ward | oops |
| 09:31.50 | james_ | Does anyone know how to find the vertical and horizontal refresh rate for a laptop monitor? Its not on any site that I have seen so far... |
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| 09:32.32 | snail | james_: one option is to tell x to try all of them and it will cycle through until it finds one that works. |
| 09:32.41 | AlexW | Debian, You entertained me |
| 09:32.53 | james_ | snail how do I do that? |
| 09:32.54 | snail | alteratively you can boot another operating system and check the hardware config there |
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| 09:33.09 | james_ | snail does windows list vert refresh rates? |
| 09:33.14 | snail | "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
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| 09:33.26 | liable | james_: google is your best bet. But you cant really hurt it, just go for the medium configuration setting and choose 60hz |
| 09:33.38 | snail | james_: not sure |
| 09:33.52 | james_ | liable i need the vertical and horizontal refresh rates |
| 09:34.01 | liable | james_: why? |
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| 09:34.12 | Drako60 | how can i format a partition for fat32? |
| 09:34.17 | james_ | liable to set up my monitor properly, it was not detected cleanly |
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| 09:34.46 | james_ | liable i cant select but low rezolutions and only 60 hertz refresh |
| 09:34.54 | s_ward | !tell Drako60 about vfat |
| 09:35.05 | james_ | resolution* |
| 09:35.45 | {max} | !tell {max} about vfat |
| 09:35.46 | liable | james_: do you have the right graphics driver though? |
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| 09:36.12 | james_ | liable most likely not, i remember having problems installing it, i should try again and see what was up |
| 09:36.23 | liable | james_: what card? |
| 09:36.54 | Drako60 | well, that almost helps, but mkfs continuely tells me /dev/hdb3 doesn't exsist |
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| 09:37.22 | zimnyx | my mozilla-mail does a weird thing http://zimny.webd.pl/moz-mail.jpg |
| 09:37.24 | liable | Drako60: does fdisk -l /dev/hdb show it? |
| 09:37.31 | Drako60 | yes |
| 09:37.36 | james_ | liable some intel graphics accelerator 900 or some such |
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| 09:37.44 | cafuego | Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the haunt, Not a tentacle was stirring, not even the Night Gaunt. The brains were hung by the intestines with care, In hopes that St. Cthulhu soon would be there. |
| 09:37.47 | Drako60 | its in fdisk and cfdisk both as hdb3 |
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| 09:38.12 | liable | james_: its not an i865 chip is it? or 875 cant remember.. |
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| 09:38.40 | ServerList | yo |
| 09:38.44 | ServerList | someone wanna help |
| 09:38.50 | liable | james_: um 855 i mean.. |
| 09:38.56 | james_ | liable currently, the only thing that seems to work is if i set it to vga |
| 09:39.03 | tosh | ServerList don't ask to ask |
| 09:39.15 | litage | i setup an ssh tunnel like so: `ssh -v -N -L 5464:HOST:80 USER@HOST` and logged in successfully. how can i now use port 5464 for web traffic? |
| 09:39.36 | james_ | liable ill check the exact chipset |
| 09:39.45 | ServerList | ok here goes |
| 09:40.16 | ServerList | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:40.19 | liable | james_: theres problems with the 855 and res.. |
| 09:40.28 | ServerList | i installed atidrivers 8-13.3 |
| 09:40.40 | ServerList | but i get no dri and 3d accel |
| 09:40.44 | james_ | liable realy? |
| 09:40.54 | s_ward | litage, you need to connect to localhost:5464 |
| 09:40.55 | ServerList | maybe somebody wanna help |
| 09:41.06 | liable | james_: yes, apt-cache show 855resolution |
| 09:41.09 | james_ | liable well, i have been having many problems, it will not even start up if i dont set it to generic vga or whatever |
| 09:41.18 | litage | s_ward: do i need to set localhost:5464 as firefox's proxy? |
| 09:42.00 | ServerList | anyone |
| 09:42.06 | ServerList | tosh: i asked already |
| 09:42.11 | ServerList | but still no help |
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| 09:42.20 | s_ward | litage, you're trying to view HOST:80 right? Instead of browsing to HOST, you browse to localhost:5464 |
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| 09:43.07 | litage | s_ward: i'm trying to route http traffic through HOST rather than my usual gateway/router |
| 09:43.12 | s_ward | litage, if you want to setup a proxy, see the -D option in man ssh |
| 09:43.14 | liable | ServerList: try #ati, seems theres no ati debian guru's on hand :) |
| 09:43.17 | litage | thanks |
| 09:44.03 | trend | how can i tell what init level I am running at? |
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| 09:44.23 | jm_ | man runlevel |
| 09:44.24 | trend | my inittab file says: id:5:initdefault: |
| 09:44.52 | liable | trend: did you edit that file? |
| 09:45.00 | trend | nope |
| 09:45.26 | trend | jm_ it would of been easier to say run runlevel |
| 09:45.34 | trend | hmm.. actually same amount of characters ;) |
| 09:45.38 | liable | centos? |
| 09:45.52 | trend | hmm.. I know I have my script in rc5.d |
| 09:45.53 | trend | gmm |
| 09:46.10 | liable | !centos |
| 09:46.10 | dpkg | i guess centos is a rebuild of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux RPMs by the community. Check it out at http://www.centos.org/projects/centos |
| 09:46.15 | trend | a redhat enterprise .. yeah |
| 09:46.54 | liable | trend: um, should I have to point out the obvious? |
| 09:46.56 | james_ | liable my video card is Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 900 |
| 09:47.09 | Phated | liable: Probably. |
| 09:47.39 | trend | what is obvious to one person isn't obvious to another, obviously ;) |
| 09:47.42 | trend | jk |
| 09:47.50 | trend | yeah.. ask in centos# or something |
| 09:47.52 | trend | but they are dead |
| 09:48.05 | trend | but.. this question really wasn't distro specific |
| 09:48.09 | jm_ | trend: or it may be easier for you to stick to Windows |
| 09:48.20 | trend | maybe so |
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| 09:48.40 | litage | s_ward: when i try use -D: "ssh -D 5464 -N -L 5464:deadorange.com:80" ssh's usage is displayed. what's wrong with that command? |
| 09:49.13 | s_ward | litage, you don't need the -L blah bit when using the -D bit |
| 09:49.23 | liable | trend: maybe centos is dead, fine, but then #redhat would be the next sane choice surely? |
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| 09:49.30 | s_ward | litage, and you're missing where to ssh to |
| 09:50.05 | james_ | init 6 |
| 09:50.08 | james_ | quit |
| 09:50.15 | james_ | thats it |
| 09:50.32 | litage | s_ward: okay, the tunnel's up. how do i now get http traffic through the tunnel (ie: so that the traffic doesn't really go through my router)? |
| 09:50.46 | liable | bugger, was going to tell hime he's prolly fucked too.. |
| 09:51.01 | liable | him.. |
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| 09:51.42 | s_ward | litage, set your browser proxy to localhost:5464 as a SOCKS 5 proxy |
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| 09:53.06 | s_ward | litage, I don't understand why it wouldn't go through your router though, you mean you have access to HOST:80 blocked at your router? |
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| 09:55.24 | litage | s_ward: i don't want my router logging which pages i view |
| 09:56.02 | s_ward | litage, oh, ok, fair enough |
| 09:56.56 | liable | !qotd 103 |
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| 09:57.06 | liable | meh |
| 09:57.09 | liable | !qotd103 |
| 09:57.09 | dpkg | somebody said qotd103 was <punchik> everytime i use google i get a message that says its no safe , and other people can read what im writing because its not encrypted <Guerin> punchik: do you care if people see what you google for? <punchik> yes <punchik> i dont want people to know that i use to look for shemales |
| 09:58.28 | litage | s_ward: after setting firefox's proxy to localhost:5464 and going to www.URL.com, how can i confirm that URL.com is being obtained through the tunnel rather than through the normal gateway/router? |
| 09:58.58 | s_ward | litage, check that it's not logged on your router? |
| 09:59.49 | SimonRaven | duh, he shoulda been more careful about what he was saying... like um, now everyone knows -- also reveals a lack of understanding that's almost pitiful. that said, it's funny, and sad at the same time |
| 10:00.06 | litage | s_ward: the traffic's still being logged in the router, so something's amiss. any suggestions? |
| 10:00.26 | SimonRaven | tell it to behave? |
| 10:01.00 | SimonRaven | or else you'll spank it with a cat5-o-nine-tails |
| 10:01.07 | litage | hahah |
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| 10:01.43 | detzli | apt-get upgrade keeps upgrading the same packages over and over, any idea why? |
| 10:01.56 | SimonRaven | they feel lonely |
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| 10:02.29 | yoo | Hi ! |
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| 10:02.38 | yoo | i can't erase my DVD+RW |
| 10:02.55 | yoo | i have three film on this DVD+RW |
| 10:03.04 | phyrster | are there any light-weight file managers which has good support for utf-8 locale? |
| 10:03.14 | yoo | i formatted it with graveman |
| 10:03.20 | phyrster | things like rox but with dual panels. |
| 10:03.22 | SimonRaven | phyrster: properly configured terminal |
| 10:03.28 | yoo | and graveman say me : already formatted |
| 10:03.30 | s_ward | litage, I'm not sure then |
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| 10:03.38 | liable | mc?? |
| 10:03.44 | yoo | but there are three film on this DVD |
| 10:03.53 | SimonRaven | mc has no utf8 support. though there's patches |
| 10:03.54 | LordLamer | hello. i use hylafax in version 4.1.7. my problem is to create a user so that i can connct to port 4559. how must an entry in hosts.hfaxd looks like? |
| 10:04.02 | phyrster | SimonRaven: yes, but you can't handle mutiple files well under console |
| 10:04.37 | SimonRaven | uh, globbing? regex? |
| 10:04.46 | phyrster | I just want a gui file manager which I can use under fluxbox. |
| 10:04.50 | SimonRaven | i'm just teasing. no worries |
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| 10:05.00 | litage | s_ward: maybe i should re-phrase my question =) |
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| 10:05.51 | JohnnyST | Is it possible to remove the x premissons with chmod only on files but not on directories? |
| 10:05.56 | SimonRaven | i just use rox - middle click on the up arrow opens the parent dir in a new window |
| 10:06.00 | litage | s_ward: when i request URL.com, i'd like firefox to send the request through the ssh tunnel to HOST, have HOST retrieve the page, then send it back to firefox |
| 10:06.22 | litage | again, through the tunnel |
| 10:06.25 | colde89 | if i get packet filterd after a ping, is this my firewall? |
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| 10:06.59 | trend | What irc clients do you'll use? |
| 10:07.09 | trend | I use to use bitchx.. but not sure how great that is anymore |
| 10:07.23 | phyrster | SimonRaven: aha. I am using rox, but how to make it open html, avi files when I click it? |
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| 10:07.51 | phyrster | SimonRaven: also. its copy function sucks. I have to manually type in path |
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| 10:08.18 | SimonRaven | the menu. 'set run action' for instance |
| 10:09.12 | ma3x | how was the default browser setting command? |
| 10:09.27 | liable | !best irc client |
| 10:09.27 | dpkg | well, irssi-text is probably the best IRC client |
| 10:09.43 | trend | nice |
| 10:09.45 | trend | let me install :) |
| 10:09.55 | trend | I believe I used that after I used bitchx |
| 10:09.59 | trend | i just couldn't remmeber the name |
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| 10:10.07 | liable | update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 10:10.37 | ma3x | thanks liable |
| 10:11.27 | hound | I'm trying to install exim4-daemon-light, but it keeps giving me the error "Exim configuration error in line 523 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: user mail was not found", so it fails at the config stage and won't complete. looking at /etc/passwd there is definietly a mail user. what could be happening? |
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| 10:14.37 | Yokalosh | is there anything like cryptomatics file2file for debian? |
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| 10:18.49 | phyrster | when I apply a patch and get this prompt, does it mean the patching is successful or not? |
| 10:18.52 | phyrster | patching file src/FbTk/Font.cc |
| 10:18.54 | phyrster | Hunk #1 succeeded at 290 (offset -3 lines). |
| 10:19.05 | phyrster | What does this hunk #1 mean? |
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| 10:19.18 | s_ward | litage, I think that's what should happen. I just tested on my system, netstat showed only connections to localhost made by firefox, however, your SSH connections may still be logged |
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| 10:19.42 | litage | s_ward: how would they be logged if they're encrypted? |
| 10:20.23 | s_ward | litage, you can see where encrypted connections go, you just can't easily see the content |
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| 10:20.46 | litage | ah |
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| 10:22.03 | litage | s_ward: thanks for your help with this =) |
| 10:22.34 | s_ward | litage, no problem |
| 10:23.19 | Moof | any idea where the hell I'd start lookign to find this problem? |
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| 10:24.11 | s_ward | litage, I'm curious, what was wrong with the stuff being logged on _your_ router? Hiding porn? :P |
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| 10:25.02 | liable | Moof: what type? |
| 10:29.01 | Moof | liable: should be plain DOS partition, made by cfdisk |
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| 10:30.10 | Moof | liable: dmesg doesnt' tell me more than "unknown parition table" |
| 10:31.11 | liable | Moof: it cant read the table, or just one partition? |
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| 10:32.59 | Moof | liable: the table, apparently |
| 10:33.05 | Moof | fdsiks and cfdisk dont' see it |
| 10:33.12 | Moof | hmmm |
| 10:33.20 | liable | the installer? |
| 10:33.20 | Moof | updatign to 2.6 didnt help |
| 10:33.36 | Moof | liable: no, a standard debian, that could read it yesterday |
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| 10:33.44 | Moof | yet knoppix, when booted, can read it |
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| 10:34.27 | liable | Moof: ok, so you can still bott, but not see the fat partiton, or not even boot? |
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| 10:35.12 | Moof | I can boot. and it's an ext3 partition |
| 10:35.20 | Moof | this is /dev/hdd1 |
| 10:35.42 | Moof | but cfdisk /dev/hdd gives me no partition table |
| 10:35.49 | liable | oh, you said dos. |
| 10:35.59 | Moof | it's a Dos partiton *table* |
| 10:36.16 | Moof | which is what I thoguht you were asking |
| 10:36.25 | liable | can gpart read it? |
| 10:36.31 | Moof | I'm not in graphical mode |
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| 10:36.58 | liable | its not graphical.. |
| 10:36.58 | Moof | but I'm assuming that if it's not in /proc/partitons, and not in fdisk or cfdisk, that gpart won't cope either |
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| 10:38.16 | liable | Moof: weird though, if you can boot your / but not another and knoppix can see it.. |
| 10:38.28 | Moof | liable: yup |
| 10:39.15 | Moof | I mean, right now I have 11 filesystems mounted on other disks and devices |
| 10:39.20 | Moof | it's just this drive |
| 10:40.49 | Moof | liable: is gpart supposed to take a long time? |
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| 10:41.33 | liable | Moof: dont think so, doesnt for me.. |
| 10:41.50 | antgel | X over ssh has stopped working recently: |
| 10:41.54 | antgel | Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server |
| 10:41.54 | antgel | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 10:42.06 | antgel | anyone else seen this? i do have xbase-clients installed |
| 10:42.21 | Moof | antgel: are you doign ti through screen? |
| 10:42.26 | antgel | also, get "Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding." |
| 10:42.31 | antgel | Moof: nope |
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| 10:43.45 | Moof | liable: it's still scannning, for me |
| 10:44.00 | antgel | if i run ssh with -v as well, i see "debug1: No xauth program." |
| 10:44.19 | drac | !mit-magic-cookie |
| 10:44.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mit-magic-cookie is 'su user_running_x -c "xauth extract - $DISPLAY" | xauth merge -' or "export XAUTHORITY=/home/<USER_RUNNING_X>/.Xauthority" (either (but not both) will let you run programs under X as root, when X was started by non-root), but xhost +localhost is damned insecure. Setting export XAUTHORITY=/home/$USER/.Xauthority in /etc/profile makes it automatic. 'zless ... |
| 10:44.21 | antgel | this is happening on two sarge severs on which it has worked in the past. |
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| 10:45.07 | liable | Moof: what have you done? stock kernel? |
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| 10:45.19 | liable | upgraded? |
| 10:45.30 | Moof | liable: yup, stock kernel. the onyl thing that's happened is a pwoercut that forced me to restart |
| 10:45.41 | Moof | I just upgraded the stock kernel to see if that might be it |
| 10:45.53 | liable | hmm, run fsck? |
| 10:46.04 | Moof | I can't |
| 10:46.09 | Moof | it can't see the partition |
| 10:46.12 | liable | course |
| 10:46.16 | liable | :( |
| 10:46.16 | Moof | and I cant' write a new partition tabel, either |
| 10:46.19 | CAiRO | how can i achieve that samba handles its user configuration independent of the system users? |
| 10:46.30 | antgel | drac: i'm not trying to run any x programs as root. |
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| 10:46.54 | drac | antgel: was expecting something else from dpkg, nevermind. |
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| 10:48.06 | liable | Moof: dunno, maybe save it in knoppix and rewrite it in debian (still makes no sense knoppix can see it) |
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| 10:49.04 | Moof | yeah |
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| 10:49.15 | Moof | once gpart finishes, I'll give that a go |
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| 10:52.57 | sciboy | Hiya, any fellow wacom users in here? |
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| 10:55.23 | caoilte | hi, i've always compiled my own kernel until recently but now i thought i'd try upgrading a custom kernel to a stock one. only after booting as far as uncompressing, my screen goes blank on stock kernels. can anyone suggest what the most likely problems I'm having might be? |
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| 10:56.30 | TyreseJones | can anyone recommend a website that shows me a howto, of how to boot dos boot disk images over my pxe network? |
| 10:56.47 | hound | Exim configuration error in line 523 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: user mail was not found <- Does anyone know what would cause this message if the user mail indeed exists |
| 10:57.37 | hound | I've purged exim4-config exim4 exim4-base exim4-daemon-light hoping it would fix it |
| 10:57.38 | s_ward | caoilte, sounds like your bootloader doesn't know about the initrd image |
| 10:57.40 | Maulkin | hound: What's on the line? |
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| 10:58.29 | hound | Maulkin, user = mail |
| 10:58.32 | good | hi |
| 10:58.34 | hound | it's part of the section mail4root |
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| 10:59.04 | datoby | hi |
| 10:59.08 | good | hjkh |
| 10:59.32 | datoby | got a problem with iptables |
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| 11:00.01 | ma3x | whats the latest stable kernel? |
| 11:00.07 | gaw_ | hi I have a little problem with my printer. The printer run as an command and in openoffice, but not in xpdf or acroread, have someone an idea? |
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| 11:00.17 | Maulkin | hound: Could you pastebin your config? |
| 11:00.31 | datoby | ma3x: http://kernel.org/ |
| 11:00.42 | ma3x | datoby, I meant for debian |
| 11:00.50 | hound | well it's just the default exim4 config from the debian package, won't install from a purge. do you want to see that file it refers to in the error? |
| 11:00.51 | ma3x | (the package) |
| 11:00.51 | datoby | apt-cache search kernel |
| 11:01.20 | ma3x | i just did, it shows 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 11:01.30 | ma3x | but in the debian newsletter i see 2.6.12 |
| 11:01.30 | liable | thats it then! |
| 11:01.32 | datoby | that's the last stable kernel |
| 11:01.49 | liable | for sarge. |
| 11:01.59 | ma3x | what for sarge? |
| 11:02.03 | ma3x | 2.6.8-2 ? |
| 11:02.08 | liable | yes |
| 11:02.18 | s_ward | ma3x, yes, is it so hard to believe? |
| 11:02.20 | ma3x | is there a new one coming soon? |
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| 11:02.25 | liable | no |
| 11:02.29 | caoilte | s_ward: hmmm it's got a initrd=/boot/initrd.gz line (lilo), or should i try changing that to initrd.img-2.6.11-1-k7? |
| 11:02.53 | ma3x | but if a new one comes, i just do apt-get update and upgrade |
| 11:03.03 | ma3x | and it will install the new one,right? |
| 11:03.04 | hound | I'm guessing there's a base package that sets up something before exim4 is installed, but I can't figure out what it would be. |
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| 11:03.21 | Ice_e | kernel compiling problem - does anyone have a clue about why the mouse is missing after compiling 2.6.8? It is the only problem... |
| 11:03.30 | dawg | ma3x, a new one *won't* be coming (bar a security release), sarge is stable |
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| 11:03.54 | liable | ma3x: you can install kernel-image-2.6-i386, which will update it whenever a patched one comes out. |
| 11:03.58 | s_ward | caoilte, try changing if initrd.gz is not the same as or isn't a symlink to initrd.img-2.6.11-1-k7 |
| 11:04.01 | datoby | i got some problems with my router |
| 11:04.05 | datoby | i changed |
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| 11:04.07 | datoby | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTDEV -p tcp --dport 28900:28970 -j DNAT --to-dest 192.168.2.8 |
| 11:04.09 | datoby | to |
| 11:04.11 | datoby | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTDEV -p tcp --dport 28900:28970 -j DNAT --to-dest 192.168.2.14 |
| 11:04.17 | ma3x | liable, this one will not update it? |
| 11:04.25 | dimir | Ice_e: you maybe using wrong mouse device, it should be /dev/input/mice |
| 11:04.32 | datoby | but the routing goes to 192.168.2.8 |
| 11:04.41 | datoby | how can i delete the old rule |
| 11:04.43 | caoilte | s_ward: ok. it might still be a zip of my custom kernel, you mean? |
| 11:04.45 | datoby | and insert the new one? |
| 11:04.59 | liable | you can manualyy, but if you install the one I said, whenever you dist-upgrade, it will upgrade it if its available.. |
| 11:05.17 | gaw_ | I use 'lpr -PHPDeskjet930C filename.pdf' in the shell, but if I give the same print command lpr -PPHPDesktjet930C in xpdf or acroread I get a client error. |
| 11:05.28 | liable | datoby: do yourself a favour and use shorewall/firehol or something.. |
| 11:05.34 | dimir | datoby: iptables -D |
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| 11:05.57 | s_ward | caoilte, yes, I'm not sure the kernel packages create a initrd.gz, I don't have one |
| 11:06.06 | ma3x | liable, what does Sid offer? |
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| 11:06.13 | hound | http://pastebin.com/332814 |
| 11:06.15 | hound | that is what I'm seeing |
| 11:06.36 | datoby | liable: im too stupid to use shorewall |
| 11:06.37 | datoby | :p |
| 11:06.38 | liable | ma3x: i think 2.6.12 at the mo. but *dont* upgrade to sid. |
| 11:06.49 | dimir | datoby: you use the same rule spec, but instead of '-A' you put '-D' to delete that rule |
| 11:06.52 | liable | datoby: ok. |
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| 11:06.58 | ginipig | to many significant changes going on in sid, atm |
| 11:07.00 | ginipig | gcc, etc. |
| 11:07.01 | datoby | dimir: yes i got it :) |
| 11:07.10 | ginipig | s/to/too/ |
| 11:07.33 | ma3x | liable, i mean what you get if you upgrade to Sid (except lability)? |
| 11:08.01 | liable | ma3x: do you need a newer one? |
| 11:08.19 | ma3x | liable, no, i just ask what features you get with the new one? |
| 11:08.31 | datoby | dimir: is there a way with iptables -F ? |
| 11:08.37 | liable | ma3x: drivers mostly, for newer hardware. |
| 11:08.38 | hound | hey there's what's happening to me: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-exim4-maintainers/2004-October/000357.html |
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| 11:09.24 | liable | ma3x: so, if everything works... |
| 11:10.13 | chaolo | ola |
| 11:10.17 | ma3x | liable, you got stable? |
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| 11:11.01 | liable | ma3x: not at the moment, but am waiting on a case for my home server. :) (which will run stable) |
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| 11:12.16 | ma3x | liable, box case? |
| 11:12.22 | liable | yeah |
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| 11:12.30 | ma3x | what kinda? |
| 11:12.53 | liable | um, antec aria mini |
| 11:13.30 | ma3x | you got url (screenshot) ? |
| 11:13.37 | ma3x | is it acool one? |
| 11:13.48 | liable | dunno yet :) |
| 11:14.38 | ma3x | you're ordered a case and dont know hwo it looks like? |
| 11:14.59 | liable | ma3x: http://www.antec-inc.com/aria.html |
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| 11:16.16 | ma3x | liable, you're building a custom system? |
| 11:16.36 | liable | I spose you could call it that. |
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| 11:17.13 | ma3x | you're getting a decent graphic card too? |
| 11:17.27 | liable | no, server. |
| 11:18.00 | ma3x | im interested if you choose amd or intel? |
| 11:18.01 | liable | wanted a microatx case, so, that looked nice.. |
| 11:18.35 | ma3x | it says it's the quietest case in the world |
| 11:19.14 | liable | ma3x: I know fuck all about hardware really, I started looking at old pc's, then I thought I would like raid, then a small case, and before I knew it, thousand bucks spent.. :) |
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| 11:19.42 | liable | ma3x: dont believe the advertisements :) |
| 11:20.13 | ma3x | liable, so what cpu you're getting? |
| 11:20.23 | liable | celeron |
| 11:20.32 | ma3x | are you kidding me? |
| 11:20.46 | ma3x | they say it's the worst cpu of intel |
| 11:20.59 | liable | asus board with a celeron was cheap, I dont need cpu power for it. |
| 11:21.01 | ma3x | are you trying not to spend much money |
| 11:21.05 | ma3x | ok |
| 11:21.31 | caoilte | sorry, don't know who i was speaking to a minute ago. tried rebooting with initrd updated and got the same problem. the kernel uncompresses and then the screen turns off and AFAIK the computer stops booting. i don't understand why i can compile and install custom debs and use stock ones on other machines but something about switching is not going right. |
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| 11:21.34 | nevyn | celerons arn't so shabby. |
| 11:21.38 | ma3x | liable, but i mean what are the most powerful cpus nowadays? |
| 11:21.50 | nevyn | opterons or xeons |
| 11:21.54 | nevyn | like always |
| 11:22.01 | ma3x | how about amd? |
| 11:22.03 | liable | ma3x: dunno, like I said, i am a bit of a hardware tard.. |
| 11:22.05 | ma3x | those FX cpus |
| 11:22.11 | nevyn | who do you think makes opterons? |
| 11:22.19 | tralala | caoilte: do you use console fb? |
| 11:22.42 | ma3x | nevyn, are they better than the FX ones? |
| 11:22.53 | nevyn | ma3x: yeah. |
| 11:22.57 | nevyn | ma3x: but $$$+++ |
| 11:23.07 | ma3x | liable, you're getting monitor too? |
| 11:23.09 | tralala | ma3x: you can find a lot of hardware info and reviews at anandtech.com |
| 11:23.12 | nevyn | ma3x: 2k australian per cpu for the top end |
| 11:23.28 | liable | ma3x: no, have a work one I can borrow for set up. |
| 11:23.31 | ma3x | can i check those at newegg.com too? |
| 11:23.34 | nevyn | ma3x: but the point is you should buy what you need.. |
| 11:23.51 | nevyn | and most things arn't cpu bound |
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| 11:24.02 | ma3x | nevyn, what are they bound then? |
| 11:24.06 | nevyn | word processing file serving etc |
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| 11:24.19 | CAiRO | is there a program similar to groups that will display all users that belong to a certain group (instead of showing all groups for a user) |
| 11:24.23 | Anthro | Anyone know of an RDF lint? I have an RDF file that firefox doesn't like, and I don't know why. |
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| 11:25.16 | nevyn | ma3x: obviously it depends on the particular usage patern. but for general desktop use (asside from playing encodeing or editing media) the cpu is mostly idle |
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| 11:25.26 | tralala | CAiRO: grep group_name /etc/groups |
| 11:25.26 | nevyn | CAiRO: cat |
| 11:25.41 | tralala | or /etc/group |
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| 11:25.54 | nevyn | /etc/group |
| 11:26.06 | CAiRO | ah, ok |
| 11:26.08 | umbop | hey can anyone recommend a good graphical sound control i.e. volume / speaker etc |
| 11:26.14 | umbop | balance, bass, yada yada |
| 11:26.24 | umbop | that will work for fluxbox |
| 11:26.42 | ma3x | nevyn, why AMD names its cpus like for eg. XP 2400+ but it runs let's say @ 2000 MHz |
| 11:26.56 | nevyn | ma3x: /j #hardware |
| 11:26.56 | ma3x | does that mean xp2400+ = intel 2,4GHz? |
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| 11:27.16 | ma3x | ok that was my last question |
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| 11:27.25 | tralala | ma3x: yes, it means that |
| 11:27.29 | nvz | ma3x: that means you will have an experience greater than if you used and intel at 2.4ghz |
| 11:27.50 | liable | !start a hardware war |
| 11:27.56 | liable | :( |
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| 11:28.43 | ma3x | actually I think AMD is a lot better than intel |
| 11:28.46 | nvz | !yinzersmite liable |
| 11:28.47 | toresbe | :seen paulswm |
| 11:28.48 | ginipig | umbop: alsamixer is probably the best |
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| 11:28.50 | toresbe | !seen paulswm |
| 11:28.50 | dpkg | paulswm <unknown@103.99.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 5d 18h 40m 5s ago, saying: 'Eew, I use Sun JDK'. |
| 11:28.51 | ma3x | but i have intel now |
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| 11:29.06 | VoX | are there any 802.11g cards supported? |
| 11:29.06 | ma3x | I've heard it's like mercedes (intel) and bmw (amd) |
| 11:29.10 | liable | !aussiesmite nvz |
| 11:29.10 | dpkg | nvz: godamnit mate it's about time i mow the brigalo suckers bloody hell |
| 11:29.17 | nvz | last 3 times I called up yinzersmite its been the same time |
| 11:29.18 | umbop | thanks ginipig |
| 11:29.20 | liable | meh |
| 11:29.29 | nvz | s/time/message/ |
| 11:29.40 | tralala | VoX: yes, there are, but finding out which are supported and which not proved to be a pita for me |
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| 11:29.50 | ginipig | with bmw, you get more bang for yor buck |
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| 11:29.51 | liable | give me a merc anytime. |
| 11:29.59 | nvz | amen |
| 11:30.00 | tralala | !tell VoX -about wireless |
| 11:30.12 | ginipig | i'll still go for the lotus, tho |
| 11:30.15 | nvz | I'd take any mercedes over any bmw |
| 11:30.31 | liable | VoX: atheros working with g here, but compile your own drivers.. |
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| 11:30.39 | nvz | I'd take a 240C over a BMW |
| 11:30.40 | tralala | nvz: A class over 7 series? |
| 11:30.42 | gaw_ | Is everyone here who has experience about the cups printer configuration in sarge? My Printer run from the prompt and in Openoffice, but doesn't work in acroread and xpdf. |
| 11:30.46 | fseek | hello |
| 11:30.51 | GregM | VoX: I believe prism G cards are supported |
| 11:31.22 | nvz | I'd take an old 190 or something even |
| 11:31.39 | nvz | actually fuck it I couldnt afford to maintain it |
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| 11:31.59 | nvz | this is why I only had my volvo 3 years |
| 11:32.00 | liable | I was gonna get one of them old ones with fins to fix up, never got around to it though.. but they look sweet. |
| 11:32.25 | ginipig | which volvo? |
| 11:32.53 | nvz | was a 1990 760 GLE in its prime |
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| 11:33.06 | nvz | needed more love (read money) than I could dish out |
| 11:33.16 | liable | volvo station wagons were actually winning class a group here for a while (surprising but true!) |
| 11:33.23 | ma3x | ive heard volvos have best accoustics |
| 11:33.37 | ma3x | does this mean you can hear the engine very loud, or its very quiet? |
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| 11:33.44 | VoX | mmm wireless looks like alot of fun then |
| 11:33.51 | fseek | you can attend a conference in it :) |
| 11:33.56 | ginipig | no, it's not the loudness of it |
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| 11:34.22 | ma3x | well is it quiet then?? |
| 11:34.34 | liable | VoX: do your homework, its the chipset that matters, and some cards change chipset without a version change, so be carefull.. |
| 11:34.41 | fseek | VoX: also intel 2200 (centrino I think) and Ralink have open source drivers, atheros works too (I don't know how well however) |
| 11:34.51 | liable | very well.. |
| 11:35.04 | VoX | liable: yeah, i shall do |
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| 11:36.38 | nvz | my engine was quiet the B280F then the head gastkets blew and I had to junk it |
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| 11:37.19 | nvz | just the gasket kit was $500 not including tools, labor, and assuming it needed nothing else.. which it would at least need fluids and a torq wrench |
| 11:37.26 | nvz | probably pressure test |
| 11:38.07 | nvz | only volvo engine with a timing chain |
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| 11:38.37 | caoilte | tralala: i don't have console fb normally, i could never get it to work with my GFX card. is there an argument to turn it off at boot with the stock kernel? |
| 11:39.20 | nvz | one of the few cars that doesnt exist in the system anymore.. cant have keys made for it or anything. was a shame I didnt have a big ranch house in BFE to park that car on and restore it |
| 11:39.27 | Moof | caoilte: nofb |
| 11:39.29 | tralala | caoilte: vga=off, afair |
| 11:39.49 | nvz | going to have to drive something cheaper like a fuckin honda maybe *shrug* |
| 11:40.12 | tralala | how about hyundai |
| 11:40.13 | ThePiratemaster | does anybody own the game farcry? |
| 11:40.17 | liable | old chrysler! |
| 11:40.19 | nvz | I'd never be able to look at a honda and see a volvo |
| 11:40.20 | tralala | really cheap |
| 11:40.37 | liable | really old I mean. |
| 11:40.46 | ThePiratemaster | i need to make a gameserver for someone for it on linux but i dont own the game |
| 11:40.58 | nvz | yeah you can get those hyndai cheap with good payments.. but I mean more cheap to maintain I am not buying new regaurdless |
| 11:41.05 | nvz | not that I can by anything right now |
| 11:41.30 | ma3x | can you play farcry on debian? |
| 11:41.41 | nvz | I am kinda spoiled from the volvo.. heated leather seats, heated electric mirrors, moon roof..etc |
| 11:41.52 | tralala | nvz: well they should be cheaper to maintain than japanese cars |
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| 11:41.58 | nvz | dont know what I will do if I end up with a ford tempo or something |
| 11:42.07 | nvz | I'd cry |
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| 11:44.08 | fatal__ | I'm spoiled from my volvo too... I don't think I'll be satisfied with any other car after my 240 GRAND LUX dies and goes to heaven.... :P |
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| 11:44.28 | nvz | mine was burried ALIVE ffs! |
| 11:44.37 | slept | I want my cdrom to unmount when I press the eject button (and to mount when I insert a disk ) autofs looks to me like it could do the mount part what do I exactly search or the umount and kill part ? Any ideas ? Or is there a way to not make the drive locked when I mounted it ? |
| 11:44.39 | kneet | fatal__, wouldn't Volvos go to Valhalla? |
| 11:45.29 | fatal__ | kneet: only amazon and older... maybe 140 too, but only the model with the "long" gearshiftstick... The "short" version is too lame. ;) |
| 11:45.45 | liable | slept: seems to work for me, sometimes I have to run eject though. |
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| 11:46.13 | nvz | I willingly slaved over maintaining and repairing that volvo.. could never do that for a ford or chevy |
| 11:46.34 | tralala | slept: I'm using autofs with timout set to 5 secs. It is *almost* the same. |
| 11:47.13 | slept | liable, tralala thanks I'll have a try |
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| 11:51.12 | kolr | hey, I'm a question concerning the current Intel Penium modles. I've just bought Pentium4 3GB S775 64BIT 1MB Cache and I'm not sure whether I should have gotten the Intel Pentium Dual Core 64BIT 2MB Cache. What the thing with the 64Bit anyway, and is it really matter whether it's 1MB cache or 2MB? Thanks. |
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| 11:52.05 | Dinkydo | I'm am trying to rebuild my php5 install with sablo xslt support. So basicaly I've added --enable-xslt --with-xslt-sablot to my ./configure. it makes and installs fine, but phpinfo() doesn't report xslt support. Reading the sites, I find I need to "make sure my sablot library is linked to -lstdc++. How do I do that? |
| 11:52.20 | pirre | kolr: google/wikipedia will answer your questions. |
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| 11:52.46 | kolr | pirre: I'm really interested in hearing Linux guys, too. |
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| 11:52.51 | OleMoudi | how can I do a loop in bash to do a command several times with different arguments taken from lines of a txtfile? |
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| 11:53.31 | kolr | pirre: I can still change the processor if I want to, but I'm not sure yet. Should I take the other processor? |
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| 11:55.26 | pirre | kolr: check out the debian ia64 port for more info. http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ |
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| 11:55.33 | tralala | OleMoudi: for line in $(cat textfile); do cmd $line; done |
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| 11:55.53 | OleMoudi | thank you very much |
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| 11:56.14 | kolr | pirre: Checking... Thanks. |
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| 11:57.17 | deckrider | Hi, what is the best way to see the symbols in a sarge .so? |
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| 11:57.49 | tralala | deckrider: strings is *a* way |
| 11:58.29 | zOap | when I have edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, do I need to reboot before it uses the changes? Or can I just set it down to a cerain runlevel or? |
| 11:58.42 | deckrider | tralala: interesting. I was trying nm, but I get things like "nm: libz.so: no symbols" |
| 11:58.50 | liable | zOap: restart x |
| 11:59.07 | zOap | liable. ok, thanks:) |
| 11:59.22 | liable | zOap: thats not a command :) |
| 11:59.30 | zOap | liable, hehe, I know:() |
| 11:59.51 | Dinkydo | how do I check if my sablot library is linked to -lstdc++, what ever that is. |
| 12:00.31 | deckrider | Dinkydo: possibly "ldd <sablot library>" |
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| 12:00.52 | deckrider | Dinkydo: ....if it was not statically linked |
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| 12:01.43 | wwallace | how do i make locate to search in the remote share locally mounted? |
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| 12:01.52 | kolr | Bah! What's the heck with this 64Bit anyway?! does everything support it?? |
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| 12:02.26 | nevyn | kolr: does ANYTHING support it? |
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| 12:02.56 | pirre | kolr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64_bit |
| 12:02.57 | umbop | wwallace, updatedb --netpaths= |
| 12:03.03 | umbop | man updatedb |
| 12:03.03 | kolr | nevyn: is it well supported by Linux, Windows, Games ... ...? |
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| 12:03.18 | kolr | pirre: Thanks again. |
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| 12:03.47 | wwallace | i did updatedb --netpaths='/mnt/mp3j/hdc1' |
| 12:03.50 | wwallace | it finish |
| 12:03.53 | pirre | kolr: a 32bit program won't run faster on 64bit just by default, it has to be told to use 64 bits |
| 12:03.53 | kolr | Will Vista work under 64bit? |
| 12:04.05 | wwallace | but it cant locate nothing on the drive? |
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| 12:04.22 | kolr | pirre: but all 32bit programs will work well under 64bit? |
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| 12:04.27 | pirre | kolr: don't know about Vista, but there a a special 64 bit edition of XP |
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| 12:04.42 | pirre | kolr: not sure, but I'd go with "yes" |
| 12:05.16 | kolr | pirre: hrmmmmmm |
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| 12:05.24 | kolr | pirre: Special edition is bad |
| 12:05.32 | kolr | pirre: I don't want special stuff |
| 12:05.39 | kolr | pirre: damn |
| 12:05.43 | tralala | kolr: discussing windows in #debian is worse |
| 12:05.56 | Gavrila | worse than? |
| 12:06.04 | Gavrila | ah ok sorry o_o |
| 12:06.06 | pirre | kolr: well, 32bit programs won't run faster with a 64bit processor, it all comes down to that. |
| 12:06.58 | kolr | pirre: my question is: Should I call the store now and ask to get the regual 32Bit processor or not? |
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| 12:07.47 | pirre | kolr: I don't know how stable the 64bit version of debian is, browse the mailing list to check |
| 12:07.54 | cuse | Hi! Does anybody know a good & cheap PDA with WLAN that supports Linux? |
| 12:08.13 | liable | !amd-64 |
| 12:08.15 | tralala | It's ok for a desktop - this is how I'm using it. |
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| 12:08.21 | pirre | cuse: google.com +pda +wlan +linux |
| 12:08.30 | pirre | !ia64 |
| 12:08.31 | dpkg | i guess ia64 is the new Intel Architecture, "Itanium", which seems pretty cool. or ages behind rs64-II , see also http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/. |
| 12:08.36 | liable | sheesh, I have bot-futz |
| 12:09.20 | tralala | cuse: sharp zaurus is a linux native pda. I don't know how good & cheap & WLAN supporting it is though. |
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| 12:10.54 | liable | hmm, the shuttle didnt dissintegrate. nice.. |
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| 12:11.24 | cuse | tralala: ok, thanks |
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| 12:12.22 | tralala | cuse: http://www.linuxdevices.com/ and http://linux-on-laptops.com/ also have some pda info |
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| 12:13.42 | MDC | using 64bit and the only thing i miss is beagle :-) |
| 12:14.29 | topyli | no beagle for amd64? |
| 12:14.46 | MDC | not yet there are som missing deps.. |
| 12:14.50 | tralala | the biggest miss is probably the openoffice |
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| 12:15.02 | topyli | what will you do with all your processor time then? ;-) |
| 12:15.11 | pirre | tralala: but can't you install the 32bit version of openoffice? |
| 12:15.12 | GregM | well we have a spaceshuttle back :) |
| 12:15.22 | topyli | heh |
| 12:15.23 | MDC | http://amd64.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?&pkg=beagle&ver=0.0.12-1&arch=amd64&stamp=1123378271&file=log&as=raw |
| 12:15.42 | Scorpaen | what's the nvidia one-liner? |
| 12:15.54 | tralala | yes, but it's 1) 32bit, 2) in chroot (which is a pita) |
| 12:15.58 | topyli | GregM: sorry, i didn't know it wasy you who did it :) |
| 12:16.01 | liable | Scorpaen: /msg dpkg nvidea one liner |
| 12:16.06 | Scorpaen | thanks liable |
| 12:16.12 | liable | nvidia even |
| 12:16.50 | GregM | topyli: yeah I was out there with my table tennis batts on the end of the run way |
| 12:17.18 | liable | hehe |
| 12:17.53 | topyli | GregM: nice job! i can hardly get a pint down my throat, let alone precision work! |
| 12:18.55 | topyli | beagle, btw, is taking 100% of processor time on my box, since i've been away for 3 weeks and there's a lot of new files and mail |
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| 12:19.58 | topyli | does beagle rock or does it suck? i can't make up my mind :) |
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| 12:21.30 | uid0 | I'm moving from red hat to Debian, is there anything anyone can tell me that's different about this distro? |
| 12:21.34 | tralala | It sucks the resources for sure. Now if this rocks is an entirely different question! |
| 12:21.53 | s_ward | beagle's not fast on reiser, they blame it on reiser, it sucks |
| 12:22.04 | tralala | !tell uid0 -about red hat tools |
| 12:22.17 | Moof | uid0: it holds your hands a lot less. you need ot know what you want to do and install and configure |
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| 12:22.52 | Moof | uid0: also, rpms don't (generally) work with debian |
| 12:23.10 | uid0 | yeah I know |
| 12:23.13 | Modulator | onko tll suomalaisia opastajia? |
| 12:23.15 | uid0 | I have a pretty good Linux understanding |
| 12:23.22 | uid0 | I just wanted to know if there were any differences |
| 12:23.28 | topyli | uid0: it's linux. but there are great differences, in package management and configuration. also, init is a bit different |
| 12:23.46 | tralala | uid0: RH is mainly about user experience. Debian is mainly about efficiency, but it's harder to use until you get used to. |
| 12:23.46 | uid0 | I'm mostly using it just as a file server, samba, and and to develop applications for my job |
| 12:23.49 | liable | Modulator: english? |
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| 12:23.56 | topyli | Modulator: ei, täällä puhutaan huonoa englantia :) |
| 12:24.04 | Modulator | ok |
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| 12:24.40 | Modulator | how can i install debian with wxp to multibooting |
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| 12:24.59 | cahoot | finnish should be the lingua franca of the linux world |
| 12:25.08 | topyli | yes! |
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| 12:25.20 | Modulator | youre right |
| 12:25.23 | topyli | and the world in general if you ask me |
| 12:25.38 | Gavrila | I suggest chinese! |
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| 12:25.48 | liable | klingon! |
| 12:25.51 | topyli | chinese is too common |
| 12:25.58 | rsff | hey guys. How do I configure which modules are loaded on sarge? I already have removed discover, and have blacklisted some drivers (Like the OSS mixer, which I don't want loaded). But I reboot, and there they are again. |
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| 12:26.22 | cahoot | rsff: hotplug at work? |
| 12:26.26 | Gavrila | liable: terrific idea!!!! what about Lilliputish? :D |
| 12:26.39 | rsff | I already have blacklisted the dirvers on /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 12:26.45 | tralala | rsff: check if you have them aliased |
| 12:26.50 | rsff | err driver/modules |
| 12:27.03 | rsff | where would I check that? |
| 12:27.13 | rsff | /etc/modules? |
| 12:27.13 | topyli | Modulator: i'm not sure but the new debian-installer should just detect windows and install a boot loader that lets you choose |
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| 12:27.39 | uid0 | when setting up debian, shoudl I set swap partition as logical, or primary as well jsut like the boot drive? |
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| 12:27.58 | liable | modules.d modules.conf |
| 12:27.58 | yazid-work | I think the new floppy installer is a tad... bare ;-) |
| 12:28.00 | Modulator | is that installer for windows? |
| 12:28.08 | rhalff_ | hi, I currently have a brand new setup with 1 debian server serving as loadbalancer and two webservers behing it running debian, is there any debian project which makes it very easy to keep the two webservers in sync ? I think the guy who is installing the server for us will create a hacked up sollution, I'm wondering if there are some projects running makeing this process easier, so it... |
| 12:28.09 | rhalff_ | ...won't become some hacked up setup. |
| 12:28.10 | tralala | rsff: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases |
| 12:28.23 | topyli | Modulator: i thought you have windows already |
| 12:28.31 | Modulator | yes i have |
| 12:28.53 | Modulator | oh you mean that dos installer |
| 12:28.57 | topyli | Modulator: so, you should somehow arrange for some hard disk space for debian and just install |
| 12:28.57 | Modulator | or something |
| 12:29.03 | liable | gah, brainfart, time for bed. nite. |
| 12:29.03 | tralala | uid0: whatever you like better |
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| 12:29.11 | uid0 | oh |
| 12:29.16 | Modulator | but whatabout that choose thing in the start |
| 12:29.24 | uid0 | and I read somewher that I need another operating system installed on the HD to boot from the harddisk |
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| 12:29.28 | uid0 | is that true, or did I read wrong? |
| 12:29.38 | Modulator | does loader configure its self? |
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| 12:29.45 | uid0 | I don't know. |
| 12:29.45 | uid0 | lol |
| 12:29.59 | topyli | Modulator: i hope someone else can confirm this, but i think the new debian installer will do this by default |
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| 12:30.13 | ma3x | is there a way to use my laptop integrated modem in debian? |
| 12:30.22 | Modulator | well can someone confirm? |
| 12:30.23 | Wyzard | Modulator: The bootloader (GRUB) is put there as part of the Debian installation |
| 12:30.39 | Modulator | does it configure itself? |
| 12:30.46 | Wyzard | Modulator: If you already have Windows installed, and some unpartitioned space in which to put Debian, just install Debian |
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| 12:30.47 | Wyzard | Modulator: yes |
| 12:30.53 | topyli | Wyzard: does the sarge installer detect windows like the ubuntu installer does? |
| 12:30.57 | Gavrila | is there a way to synchronize a folder in kde with another one? |
| 12:31.05 | tralala | !tell ma3x -about winmodem |
| 12:31.08 | ma3x | topyli, tes |
| 12:31.09 | Modulator | well can i do the partitioning in the installing |
| 12:31.16 | Wyzard | topyli: Yes |
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| 12:31.26 | Wyzard | Modulator: OK, then just install |
| 12:31.36 | topyli | ok. Modulator, you are good to go after you have arranged some space for it |
| 12:31.41 | redtime | ma3x: http://linux-on-laptops.com/ |
| 12:32.03 | rsff | tralala, found something in alsa-base. |
| 12:32.08 | rsff | however, I don't know how to edit it. |
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| 12:32.12 | Wyzard | Modulator: The installer can resize NTFS partitions to make space available |
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| 12:32.29 | rsff | install snd-pcm modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm && { modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; : ; } |
| 12:32.33 | Modulator | well should i use the windows partitioning tool to free the space and in the installer convert it to extx |
| 12:32.35 | Modulator | ? |
| 12:32.35 | greycat | Gavrila: rsync. stop thinking of KDE. |
| 12:32.35 | Wyzard | Gavrila: Make a symlink to the folder? |
| 12:32.37 | rsff | shoudl I just coment out the whole line? |
| 12:32.57 | Wyzard | Modulator: The Windows partitioner can't resize partitions |
| 12:33.00 | tralala | rsff: man modprobe |
| 12:33.04 | rsff | thanks |
| 12:33.21 | Gavrila | greycat: is it long to set up it? may I use samba shares? |
| 12:33.27 | jetx | if you dual boot, windows logical disk manager does not like partitions it didn't create at all |
| 12:33.28 | Modulator | well i try |
| 12:33.36 | topyli | Modulator: with windows/dos tools, you can only delete and create partitions |
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| 12:33.41 | greycat | what the FUCK are you talking about? samba to synchronize two local directories on the same computer...? |
| 12:33.42 | Gavrila | Wyzard: sync != copy |
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| 12:33.59 | Gavrila | greycat: nobody fuckin talked about local direcotories |
| 12:34.09 | greycat | 08:30 Gavrila> is there a way to synchronize a folder in kde with another one? |
| 12:34.11 | jetx | !fuck |
| 12:34.11 | dpkg | it has been said that fuck is a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
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| 12:34.19 | Gavrila | I didn't read "locally" |
| 12:34.24 | greycat | you DID NOT SAY anything about one of them being on a DIFFERENT computer. You mentioned a fucking GUI. |
| 12:34.34 | jetx | fuck fuck fuck a duck |
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| 12:34.44 | Gavrila | that doesn't imply wether it's local or not |
| 12:34.48 | greycat | I have NO CLUE what your GUI has to do with the question, but that was the ONLY detail you gave. |
| 12:34.58 | topyli | Gavrila: use unison, it doesn't even care if the directories are in different machines or countries :) |
| 12:35.02 | greycat | And I gave you the best answer I could: rsync. |
| 12:35.08 | greycat | I'm done listening to your idiocy now. |
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| 12:35.15 | Gavrila | that's it, so you shouldn't have concluded it was local |
| 12:35.18 | rsff | I'm just wondering. In woody, we had update-modules which would update evereything. Is modprobe the equivalent. Do i need to remove modules using it? |
| 12:35.29 | Gavrila | anyway I put another question and still I don't see why you should be rude |
| 12:35.29 | greycat | P.S. |
| 12:35.30 | greycat | !folder |
| 12:35.30 | dpkg | hmm... folder is a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet, or what ya do before ya doer |
| 12:35.36 | jetx | there is still update-modules |
| 12:35.42 | tralala | Gavrila: if you ask better questions you might get better answers |
| 12:35.49 | Gavrila | I had my OS class thank you |
| 12:35.50 | rsff | man says is obsolete |
| 12:35.56 | rsff | update-modules |
| 12:36.12 | greycat | rsff: update-modules is a debian specific hack that updates /etc/modprobe.conf and so on |
| 12:36.26 | tralala | rsff: man modprobe |
| 12:36.29 | Gavrila | it wasn't difficult and I didn't compalin about any answer... simply he's wrong and had a wrong deduction... so he could reserve hs bad talking for somebody else |
| 12:36.31 | jetx | yeah i may have heard that, but it's still there is all i'm saying |
| 12:36.34 | rsff | tralala I already have. |
| 12:36.42 | Wyzard | rsff: On 2.6 kernels, modprobe reads the files in /etc/modprobe.d directly, so there's no need for an update-modules tool to generate a modprobe.conf from them |
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| 12:37.00 | tralala | rsff: you don't need update-modules anymore. modprobe takes care |
| 12:37.02 | gnetux | hi everybody |
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| 12:37.20 | Gavrila | [14:32] <greycat> Gavrila: rsync. stop thinking of KDE. [14:33] <Gavrila> greycat: is it long to set up it? may I use samba shares? [14:33] <greycat> what the FUCK are you talking about? samba to synchronize two local directories on the same computer...? |
| 12:37.26 | rsff | Wyzard, ah. I understand. Thanks guys. |
| 12:37.26 | tralala | and it is written in the manual, afair |
| 12:37.30 | jetx | Gavrila: drop it already |
| 12:37.31 | Gavrila | I don't see where I'm wrong or rude with anyone here |
| 12:37.45 | greycat | tralala: have I stepped into a vortex to an alternate universe or something? what on earth does modprobe have to do with update-modules? |
| 12:37.49 | gnetux | anybody knows how to rip audio cds under linux??? |
| 12:37.55 | greycat | gnetux: cdparanoia |
| 12:38.22 | Wyzard | greycat: It generates a file (modprobe.conf) that modprobe used to read |
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| 12:38.24 | rsff | tralala, just checked. man pages for modprobe doesn't say anything about kernel 2.6... sorry. |
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| 12:38.27 | lanchow | gnetux: mp3burn |
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| 12:38.35 | greycat | Wyzard: right, I got that part... |
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| 12:38.37 | rsff | tralala thanks for the help. i think I can make it from here.. |
| 12:38.37 | Gavrila | topyli: thanks for the suggestion |
| 12:38.43 | Wyzard | rsff: Do you have module-init-tools installed? |
| 12:38.51 | rsff | yes. I believe so. |
| 12:39.00 | tralala | greycat: I don't know, have you? |
| 12:39.03 | Modulator | does the installer install the x-windowing? |
| 12:39.03 | rsff | yup |
| 12:39.05 | rsff | I do |
| 12:39.06 | Wyzard | greycat: Well, that explains pretty clearly what update-modules has to do with modprobe... |
| 12:39.21 | greycat | tralala: it seems that way. damned linux 2.6. everything keeps changing every time I turn around, for no discernable reason. |
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| 12:39.29 | drac | Modulator: If you make it do that, it will. |
| 12:39.36 | Modulator | i just started download the netinst |
| 12:39.45 | jetx | Modulator: the task sel one does. try apt-get install x-window-system as root and see |
| 12:39.49 | jetx | ah |
| 12:39.57 | jetx | after the reboot you will have the option |
| 12:39.59 | greycat | Wyzard: what I don't understand is the "rsff: you don't need update-modules anymore. modprobe takes care" part. |
| 12:40.04 | Modulator | but how i configure it? |
| 12:40.20 | tralala | greycat: they call it *a progress* |
| 12:40.25 | rsff | greycat, I already understood that. |
| 12:40.27 | drac | !drxx Modulator |
| 12:40.28 | dpkg | Modulator: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:40.41 | Wyzard | greycat: As I said, modprobe now reads the contents of /etc/modprobe.d directly |
| 12:40.43 | rsff | I think |
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| 12:40.48 | greycat | rsff: but *I* don't! Did you mean "users should edit /etc/modprobe.d/* directly instead of editing /etc/modutils/* and then running update-modules"? |
| 12:41.15 | Modulator | so i apt-get install xf89config that configure tool? |
| 12:41.32 | rsff | greycat: I understood that I need to remove modules using modprobe -r [modulename] that it just takes care of everything... ? |
| 12:41.33 | kolr | Another last question: Is there a major differences in performence between DDR 400 and the DDR 533 II ? Thanks. |
| 12:41.36 | greycat | and I'm *still* confused by "modprobe takes care", because that implies that if you run "modprobe foo option1 option2", that somehow (by osmosis? voodoo?) modprobe(8) will edit your config files for you. |
| 12:41.44 | jetx | Modulator: a cut down version of the reconfigure will run when it's installed |
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| 12:41.56 | Modulator | thx |
| 12:42.10 | jetx | kolr anandtech.com |
| 12:42.20 | tralala | greycat: don't worry, you don't need to understand this part - it was meant for another person |
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| 12:42.26 | rsff | ok so I guess I understood it wrong. |
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| 12:42.30 | rsff | This is confusing. |
| 12:42.32 | landslide | how do i find out what a file's permissions are in octal? |
| 12:42.42 | landslide | is there a way to get the 'file info' ? |
| 12:42.43 | greycat | !wikifaq landslide Permissions |
| 12:42.44 | dpkg | landslide: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 12:42.47 | greycat | landslide: stat(1) |
| 12:42.56 | landslide | thanks! |
| 12:43.30 | tralala | rsff: you need to edit the files in /etc/modprobe.d/, when you are ready modprobe will read these files |
| 12:43.39 | kolr | jetx, what's your problem? |
| 12:43.55 | jetx | i need more money, can i have some? |
| 12:44.05 | tralala | me too, me too! |
| 12:44.22 | jetx | 5 grand a month isn't enough dammit |
| 12:44.23 | s_ward | !money |
| 12:44.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, money is the root of all evil, but see http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 12:44.57 | kolr | jetx, yeah, you should get 10. Like me. |
| 12:45.02 | jetx | buddy! |
| 12:45.07 | jetx | i love you man |
| 12:45.28 | greycat | the *love* of money is the root of all evil. not money. |
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| 12:46.16 | tralala | kolr: then you don't need to worry about DDR400 nor DDR533 - just by them all |
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| 12:46.22 | tralala | buy |
| 12:46.56 | s_ward | maybe you should tell dpkg that :) |
| 12:47.32 | tralala | s/love/obsession/ |
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| 12:47.48 | kolr | no, but seriously, what's wrong asking about memory chips and stuff? does ALL the talk around this channel is Debian-sepcific? Come on. |
| 12:48.18 | Modulator | well now i'm going to install it |
| 12:48.22 | Modulator | bye |
| 12:48.38 | tralala | it's intended to be, thus the name - #debian |
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| 12:48.53 | tralala | notice #deiban != #debian-and-hardware |
| 12:49.02 | s_ward | isn't there a #lobby or similar for general discussion? |
| 12:49.02 | greycat | whatever. |
| 12:49.06 | cahoot | kolr: ever read Animal farm? |
| 12:49.25 | kolr | cahoot, Yes, I have. long time ago though. why? |
| 12:49.41 | greycat | you can ask hardware questions here, but we're not hardware experts, so we may not be able to answer them |
| 12:49.46 | cahoot | kolr: some are more equal than others and so on .. |
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| 12:50.12 | Gavrila | BTW it is indeed possible to use rsync with samba shares :) |
| 12:50.24 | kolr | greycat, the thing is I have a lot of respect for the guys here, that's why I ask the questions here. |
| 12:50.41 | kolr | and also I'm using Debian, too. |
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| 12:51.48 | tralala | Gavrila: rsync should be possible to use with just about anything |
| 12:52.26 | jetx | i was just telling you where to find out |
| 12:52.50 | tralala | kolr: anandtech.com is *really* a good place to learn about hardware. When you read it a bit you'll get to know that things are not simple with the hardware and there aren't easy answers |
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| 12:53.34 | tralala | i.e. the answer of DDR400 or DDR533 is "depends on what kind of apps you're going to run" |
| 12:54.03 | jetx | and on which chipset |
| 12:54.05 | tralala | the same answer goes for just about every hw question |
| 12:54.27 | jetx | then there's 'who made the mem stick' |
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| 12:54.41 | kolr | Damn! I did a typo mistake and didn't go to the right website! |
| 12:54.41 | greycat | jetx: the RAM fairies! |
| 12:54.47 | kolr | jetx, sorry! |
| 12:54.55 | jetx | the fairy pirates! (corsair) |
| 12:54.58 | yazid-work | ddr533 is at least a tad more reusable ;-) |
| 12:55.27 | kolr | and thanks for the link |
| 12:55.46 | jetx | some ppl prefer tom's hardware |
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| 12:56.09 | yazid-work | tom's hardware have nice tests which always result in something blowing up ;-) |
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| 12:56.54 | tralala | tom's has always sounded to me as an overclockers' place, where anand is more a buyers' place |
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| 12:57.54 | jetx | those N= are =fugly |
| 12:58.20 | jetx | streuner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 12:59.36 | jarjar26 | hi all |
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| 13:00.29 | DotHack | HI!! |
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| 13:00.36 | jarjar26 | las yesterday i have apt-get upgrade ... now locally on my debian web server i could acces my php web page but from exter of network i could,Nt ... why ? |
| 13:00.41 | streuner | hey jetscreamer :-) |
| 13:00.56 | Gavrila | tralala: I need to keep my laptop work synchronized on my home-workstation and viceversa; to do so I should use rsync in both ways, is it right? |
| 13:01.07 | DotHack | i have this question. I there an easy way (debconf or something) to review al configuration changes i ve made localy |
| 13:01.28 | Gavrila | I mean, reading the man it sounds that each rsync operation is one-side only... |
| 13:01.35 | DotHack | like a diff output from the default file to the configured files |
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| 13:03.07 | tralala | Gavrila: I don't know. Read some manuals, faqs, howtos, etc. |
| 13:03.14 | Wyzard | Gavrila: apt-cache show unison |
| 13:03.55 | Gavrila | k thanks all |
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| 13:05.59 | ma3x | My modem is ALI 5457 AC-Link. I run the modemscan utility and it said "capable of supporting under Linux AT LEAST modem Subsystem chips from manufacturers: Pctel, Conexant, Intel, Smartlink. So what driver should I choose? |
| 13:06.08 | ma3x | that great choice is confusing me |
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| 13:06.35 | RvGaTe | what was that package called to sync the servertime with a timeserver |
| 13:06.45 | fatal__ | ntpdate |
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| 13:07.04 | streuner | ma3x: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i eth' say? |
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| 13:07.18 | streuner | ma3x: oh wait |
| 13:07.18 | greycat | !set the time |
| 13:07.19 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 13:07.26 | streuner | ma3x: extern modem? |
| 13:07.33 | ma3x | streuner, laptop - internal |
| 13:07.46 | streuner | ma3x: did you /msg dpkg laptops? |
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| 13:08.01 | ma3x | yes, That guy wrote on the website: Sorry I'm not interested in 56k modems |
| 13:08.15 | streuner | ma3x: show us the link |
| 13:08.16 | DotHack | I want to record the current configuration changes i have made (local changes to files) to a diff so i can patch a newly installed debian server with this configuration |
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| 13:08.32 | DotHack | Is this easily doable? |
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| 13:09.02 | ma3x | streuner, http://debian.neteye.ch/ze5517ea/files/hp-pavilion-ze5517ea-install-howto |
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| 13:09.33 | tralala | DotHack: why diff and patch and not simply backup and restore? |
| 13:10.24 | DotHack | because i want to have it documenten |
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| 13:12.07 | tralala | DotHack: <backup> /etc > etc.backup.bak, echo "document it" > etc.backup.doc |
| 13:12.09 | DotHack | im currently documenting the installation of our webserver. It's a lot easier to have a diff with all the changes i've made then to try recalling them from memorie |
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| 13:13.03 | zOap | I have put "option shmconfig on" in my xf86free file, and restarted x, but still it tells me : Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? " Anyone knows why this happens? |
| 13:13.31 | zOap | xf86free-config course.. typos.. |
| 13:13.40 | greycat | neither of those filenames is correct. |
| 13:13.50 | tralala | DotHack: I find it a lot easier to put comments in the config file and back it up. No need for diff at all |
| 13:13.57 | zOap | XF86Config-4 |
| 13:13.58 | zOap | there |
| 13:14.05 | greycat | yes, that one may be correct. |
| 13:14.12 | zOap | still, problem persists |
| 13:14.17 | greycat | as long as you're using xserver-xfree86 and not xserver-xorg |
| 13:14.27 | greycat | and not the old 3.x xserver-* ones |
| 13:15.01 | zOap | greaycat, I just used the one with sarge... |
| 13:15.03 | DotHack | tralala: Yes you're right, but i really dont know wich changes i've made before so thats why i want a diff out of a stock configuration |
| 13:15.07 | zOap | and it's xfree yes |
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| 13:15.18 | ma3x | streuner, I provided you the link |
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| 13:15.25 | wwallace | what is the path where i should put the roms so xmame can find them? |
| 13:15.37 | DotHack | tralala: isnt there an easy way with apt or something? |
| 13:15.58 | tralala | DotHack: how many files do you need to diff? |
| 13:16.30 | greycat | DotHack: perhaps you should *create* a stock installation on another box (or in a chroot), and then do a "diff -r -u" on /etc between them |
| 13:16.37 | uid0 | that installation wizard after the base system is installed to select packages to install, I accidentally pressed spacebar and it went away, and rebooted the system with like nothing installed |
| 13:16.44 | uid0 | how can I bring that installation wizard back? |
| 13:16.52 | greycat | uid0: base-config I think |
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| 13:17.06 | uid0 | base-config? |
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| 13:17.14 | gypsymauro | hello |
| 13:17.15 | uid0 | I jsut type that in console, or when it's booting or something? |
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| 13:17.16 | DotHack | greycat: mmm thats an approach. |
| 13:17.17 | greycat | unless you were referring to a package selector, such as tasksel or dselect |
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| 13:17.37 | gypsymauro | someone knows the right way to enable php on debian to connect with freetds to MS SQL server without recompiling it? |
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| 13:17.51 | uid0 | yes |
| 13:17.53 | DotHack | tralala: dunno al files that dont match the md5 checksum i think |
| 13:17.54 | uid0 | tasksel |
| 13:18.09 | uid0 | that's what it was called, how can I bring that suckah back up? |
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| 13:18.23 | greycat | amazingly enough, by typing tasksel |
| 13:18.26 | tralala | unsurprisingly by typing tasksel |
| 13:18.32 | uid0 | lol |
| 13:18.33 | uid0 | sweet |
| 13:18.34 | tralala | hah, got me |
| 13:18.39 | uid0 | one more thing |
| 13:18.46 | uid0 | I'm tryin to edit the smb.conf file |
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| 13:18.52 | uid0 | btu its telling me it's locked, and I was trying to edit ti as root |
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| 13:18.55 | rocky23_ | im running kde and under printers the smb shared printer option is greyed out. i just want to connect to a windows shared printer.. ive got samba and cups installed and the smbclient which installs smb under /usr/lib/cups/backend .. can anyone help ? |
| 13:18.56 | uid0 | what can solutionize this |
| 13:18.58 | zOap | no, do NOT type tasksel, for the love of god, DON'T DO IT!! |
| 13:19.01 | jetx | mutt is cool |
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| 13:19.13 | jetx | no tasksel sucks along with craptitude |
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| 13:19.43 | jetx | yeah like they said maybe stop samba |
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| 13:20.01 | uid0 | mkay. |
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| 13:20.09 | ma3x | to where should i set /dev/modem symbolic link? |
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| 13:20.24 | greycat | uid0: no unix text editor *I'm* aware of pays *any* attention whatsoever to the voluntary unix file locking mechanisms. what COMMAND did you type, and what ERROR did you get? |
| 13:20.29 | jetx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:21.11 | streuner | ma3x: try Intel |
| 13:21.22 | tralala | DotHack: diff can run recursively, use it to find the modified files and display the differences. You could either go as greycat suggested or copy /etc/<webconf> reconfigure with package defaults and then diff against the copy |
| 13:21.54 | zOap | DotHack, you're a defacer? |
| 13:22.04 | ma3x | what does the following mean Driver snd-intel8x0m may enable codec acquisition |
| 13:22.07 | streuner | ma3x: seriell ports are /dev/ttyS0-S1 |
| 13:22.13 | ma3x | should i modprobe snd-intel8x0m? |
| 13:22.15 | DotHack | zOap: NO!!!! |
| 13:22.26 | DotHack | zOap: what makes you say that! |
| 13:22.33 | streuner | ma3x: snd-blah is for ALSA (sound) |
| 13:22.39 | zOap | DotHack, naah, just a hunch:) |
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| 13:23.08 | DotHack | zOap: yo have a bad feeling for huches dont thrust them :D |
| 13:23.29 | ma3x | streuner, flow control is software, hardware or none? |
| 13:23.32 | streuner | ma3x: sound like you have an i810 soundchip... |
| 13:23.33 | ma3x | i guess hardware, huh? |
| 13:23.37 | zOap | hehe, I never do, it always gives me all sorts of probs... :) |
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| 13:25.20 | zOap | DotHack, well, as long as you're not hacking my dot, it's all fine:) |
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| 13:25.37 | streuner | ma3x: sound shouldn't be a problem, if you using 'alsaconf' - the installer should be able to find it auto |
| 13:25.54 | streuner | ma3x: for ALSA you need a 2.6.x kernel, what kernel do you use now? |
| 13:25.59 | streuner | ma3x: uname -a |
| 13:26.14 | greycat | streuner: not a strict requirement, but certainly strongly recommended. |
| 13:26.50 | streuner | greycat: sure... |
| 13:26.58 | zOap | alsa = cheaper creaper anyways... |
| 13:27.03 | cahoot | streuner: it's a modem 'driver' |
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| 13:27.21 | ma3x | streuner, 2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 13:27.40 | streuner | ma3x: did you use 'wvdialconf'? |
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| 13:27.56 | ma3x | streuner, no. kppp |
| 13:28.08 | ma3x | streuner, it's /dev/ttysS1 |
| 13:28.10 | streuner | ma3x: try wvdial |
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| 13:28.19 | ma3x | because when i try ttys0 and 2 it doesn't work |
| 13:28.29 | ajpr | hi all. Does anyone know why some of the changes I made to debian were lost when I rebooted? (sound setup and /etc/resolv.conf) |
| 13:28.31 | ma3x | and with /dev/ttyS1 it says initializing |
| 13:28.33 | tralala | pppconfig && pppd call |
| 13:28.37 | streuner | ma3x: apt-get install wvdial or get the packages over pdo |
| 13:29.09 | ma3x | streuner, I haven't plugged in my phone line yet. |
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| 13:29.19 | ma3x | I just wanted to query the modem ... |
| 13:29.34 | streuner | ma3x: how did you install debian? |
| 13:29.42 | ma3x | netisnt cd |
| 13:29.46 | zOap | ajpr, could yuo be more vague? |
| 13:29.51 | tralala | ajpr: in some situations /etc/resolv.conf is replaced and probably you didn't save your sound settings |
| 13:29.56 | ajpr | well thats exactly what happened |
| 13:30.05 | stew | ajpr: resolv.conf was replaced by your dhcp client |
| 13:30.09 | streuner | ma3x: and kppp is on the netinstall-CD? |
| 13:30.17 | cahoot | ajpr: meaning mixer settings? |
| 13:30.21 | ajpr | stew: how do i stop it from being replaced |
| 13:30.24 | ajpr | cahoot: nope |
| 13:30.37 | stew | ajpr: man dhclient.conf |
| 13:30.49 | ma3x | streuner, no. I got it from the net |
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| 13:30.51 | tralala | ajpr: if you have to ask, probably you don't want to stop it |
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| 13:30.57 | ajpr | i had to run alsaconf to change it from using onboard sound to using my sound card |
| 13:30.57 | riemensc | spricht jemand deutsch? |
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| 13:31.10 | ma3x | riemensc, join #debian-de |
| 13:31.11 | greycat | !de |
| 13:31.11 | dpkg | it has been said that de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 13:31.36 | ajpr | tralala: i have to stop it as it tries to use my router for dns but it takes so long when it does that |
| 13:31.41 | tralala | ajpr: maybe you want to blacklist your on-board card (man hotplug) |
| 13:31.53 | ajpr | tralala: i did the blacklist steps |
| 13:31.54 | greycat | see also /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 13:32.02 | cahoot | ajpr: the pci being card1 now - or not enabled at all? |
| 13:32.07 | zOap | ajpr, block your onboard in bios? |
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| 13:32.20 | ajpr | zOap: i guess i could try that |
| 13:32.21 | streuner | ma3x: i would try wvdial, if that doesn't work /msg dpkg winmodems OR get a hardware-router - they are cheap nowadays |
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| 13:32.33 | zOap | ajpr, if it has that function, yes |
| 13:32.44 | MDC | how do I kill a process that wont die with kill -9 ? |
| 13:32.56 | tralala | ajpr: you will probably get better by configuring your router to send the *correct* dns |
| 13:33.00 | ajpr | cahoot: it just defaults to using oss on my onboard sound i think |
| 13:33.01 | zOap | MDC, -l? |
| 13:33.01 | streuner | !zombie |
| 13:33.01 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 13:33.26 | ajpr | Trace: ok thanks i will attempt that now |
| 13:33.35 | ma3x | streuner, is there a phone dialer tool? |
| 13:33.40 | riemensc | what is gcc error1 and error2 |
| 13:33.49 | streuner | ma3x: pppconfig |
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| 13:34.15 | MDC | OK, so how do i found out who's the parent? |
| 13:34.20 | ma3x | streuner, thanks |
| 13:34.27 | streuner | ma3x: listen, wvdial is pretty simple |
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| 13:34.37 | tralala | riemensc: it's not important - scroll up for the real error |
| 13:34.42 | theine | Hi, what's a kernel abi file? |
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| 13:35.09 | ajpr | hmm my router doesnt have many options for dns |
| 13:35.10 | ma3x | streuner, does it provide log? |
| 13:35.17 | ajpr | i think my router is setup correctly |
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| 13:35.35 | streuner | ma3x: can't remember - its too long ago using wvdial |
| 13:35.40 | greycat | ajpr: so either use your ISP's name servers or set up your own |
| 13:35.53 | ajpr | my router is using my ISPs nameservers |
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| 13:36.10 | streuner | ma3x: hm, output is logging in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog |
| 13:36.23 | streuner | ma3x: any pppd events |
| 13:36.30 | ajpr | but /etc/resolv.conf uses the following 3 lines: search 192.168.0.1 212.159.13.50 |
| 13:36.40 | streuner | ma3x: make sure you have a 'logger' daemon installed |
| 13:36.47 | jarjar26 | I could't acces my php web page form internet, only from local ... i could resolv that ? |
| 13:36.49 | ajpr | and it times out trying to use 192.168.0.1 as the dns |
| 13:37.21 | riemensc | gcc-295 cannot specify -o with -c or -s and multiple compilations |
| 13:37.48 | streuner | ma3x: google also for your modem chipset and linux, there are more results.... |
| 13:37.53 | riemensc | i cannot compile a avm fritz card driber for linux |
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| 13:38.04 | greycat | 09:30 stew> ajpr: man dhclient.conf |
| 13:38.06 | streuner | riemensc: DSL? |
| 13:38.11 | riemensc | isdn |
| 13:38.16 | streuner | hm |
| 13:38.29 | streuner | riemensc: what error? |
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| 13:38.38 | rocky23_ | im just trying to set my shared printer working on debian in kde.. ive done ln -s `which smbspool` /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb ENTER . but when i go to smb://mydoomain/myserver/printersharename .. it says it doesnt exist? can anyone pleas help ? :) |
| 13:39.01 | streuner | riemensc: don't /msg me please |
| 13:39.35 | streuner | riemensc: so what's the error? |
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| 13:40.17 | riemensc | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/fritz/src.sys' |
| 13:40.17 | riemensc | (cd src.drv; make CARD=fcpci) |
| 13:40.17 | riemensc | make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/fritz/src.drv' |
| 13:40.17 | riemensc | cc -c -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -D__KERNEL__ -DNDEBUG -D__fcpci__ -DTARGET=\"fcpci\" -march=i686 -O2 -Wall -I /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r`/include \ -include /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r`/include/linux/modversions.h main.c -o main.o |
| 13:40.17 | riemensc | cc: kann nicht -o mit -c oder -S und mehrere Kompilierungen angeben |
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| 13:41.00 | rocky23_ | riemensc: maybe flood would be better if your going to paste? |
| 13:41.07 | riemensc | sorry |
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| 13:41.12 | riemensc | iam a newbie |
| 13:41.23 | niclas5 | is there a shell scripting channel? |
| 13:41.38 | greycat | #bash |
| 13:41.38 | tralala | riemensc: /msg dpkg m-a |
| 13:41.56 | niclas5 | thx |
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| 13:42.05 | tralala | it's an easy way to compile stuff outside of the kernel |
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| 13:42.44 | ma3x | streuner, the modem is ALI 5457 AC-Link |
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| 13:42.49 | ma3x | so should i search for ali 5457? |
| 13:42.54 | riemensc | error by this command |
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| 13:43.56 | tralala | which command, what error (/msg dpkg paster) |
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| 13:44.17 | k-man_ | whats that x tool for showing you the scan codes of keys you press? |
| 13:44.29 | k-man_ | or is there an tool for that? I can't remember how i did it once before |
| 13:44.37 | orchid | xev |
| 13:44.49 | rocky23_ | im just trying to get my shared w2k printer working on debian in kde.. ive done ln -s `which smbspool` /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb . but when i go to smb://mydoomain/myserver/printersharename .. it says it doesnt exist? can anyone please help ? :) |
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| 13:44.55 | riemensc | gcc-295 say cannot soecify -o with -c or -s and multiple compiliations make *** error 1 |
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| 13:45.29 | k-man_ | thanks orchid |
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| 13:46.28 | pedrolito59 | hi |
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| 13:46.45 | pedrolito59 | I don't see the error on my test "if [ $NB -ge $SYN_NUM -a $MOY -le $SYN_FREQ ] ; then" |
| 13:46.52 | pedrolito59 | on a shell script |
| 13:47.25 | greycat | stick a "set -x" in your script and watch it |
| 13:47.36 | tralala | riemensc: what is your kernel version? did you compile it yourself? |
| 13:47.41 | pedrolito59 | yes |
| 13:47.56 | pedrolito59 | the error I have is " line 37: [: too many arguments |
| 13:48.06 | greycat | sounds like one of your variables doesn't contain a number |
| 13:48.16 | greycat | set -x should clear that right up for you |
| 13:48.18 | dimir | pedrolito59: sime var may be empty |
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| 13:49.10 | pedrolito59 | that's ok |
| 13:49.16 | pedrolito59 | I got the error ... |
| 13:49.28 | pedrolito59 | one of the value contains ascii caracters |
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| 13:50.50 | DotHack | how do i mail an attachment with mail? |
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| 13:51.56 | uid0 | im havin a problem starting X |
| 13:52.12 | uid0 | i get "unable to open wrapper config file /etc/x11/Xwrapper.config" |
| 13:52.14 | uid0 | errno 3 |
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| 13:53.05 | LSorensen | uid0: do you have that file? |
| 13:54.02 | stew | DotHack: it would have to already be mime-encoded into the message, mail won't do that for you |
| 13:54.17 | asg | DotHack: you could always just use mutt -a <foo> |
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| 13:55.55 | DotHack | ah ill use mutt |
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| 13:57.07 | uid0 | I don't think so |
| 13:57.09 | setuid | What causes this, and how do I fix it? W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG F1D53D8C4F368D5D Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 13:57.16 | jarjar26 | are there option in php.ini to autorise all network to see my php page ? |
| 13:58.01 | uid0 | hwo can I check if it's installed? |
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| 13:59.19 | Ungy | !mp3 player |
| 13:59.55 | LSorensen | uid0: ls -l /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
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| 14:00.24 | stew | jarjar26: if i'm understanding you correctly, you need to configure apache, not php |
| 14:00.27 | s_ward | jarjar26, not that I know of. That's more likely your webserver's job. For Apache see the "Authentication, Authorization and Access Control" in the documentation |
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| 14:01.08 | caoilte | hi, when i boot off of the stock kernel i get "crc error" "-- system halted" i understand this usually means the hard drive is broken but i can compile and boot off of custom kernels. could the install have come out wrong? |
| 14:01.14 | LSorensen | uid0: you could probably recreate it using: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
| 14:01.54 | LSorensen | caoilte: perhaps the file got corrupted somehow. could try reinstalling the kernel package |
| 14:03.02 | jarjar26 | stew, and s_ward , my static page works well, but not php page :( |
| 14:03.10 | uid0 | i get errors trying to run anything with dpkg |
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| 14:03.16 | uid0 | when I tried to install also sshd it gave me errors |
| 14:03.23 | pirre | uid0: what error? |
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| 14:03.42 | stew | jarjar26: what happens with the php page? |
| 14:03.43 | uid0 | some erros looking for dependencies |
| 14:03.48 | uid0 | is there a way to reinstall dpkg? |
| 14:03.56 | stew | uid0: what version of debian? |
| 14:04.02 | uid0 | i duno, lol |
| 14:04.14 | Modulator | hey its me again |
| 14:04.19 | pirre | uid0: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 14:04.20 | jarjar26 | stew, nothing :( i could'nt see from internet, but from my network, i see it |
| 14:04.29 | Modulator | how can i start the x-window-system? |
| 14:04.38 | Scorpaen | startx |
| 14:04.48 | LSorensen | uid0: use apt-get. it doels with dependancies for you |
| 14:04.48 | stew | jarjar26: what do you mean nothing? times out? 404? 5xx? |
| 14:05.00 | uid0 | just apt-get sshd? |
| 14:05.06 | caoilte | LSorensen: hmm, i do get the msg "Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-k7/source" "However, I can not read it: No such file or directory" "Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.11-1-k7/source" could that mean anything? |
| 14:05.16 | stew | uid0: apt-get install ssh on sarge or etch, apt-get install openssh-server on sid |
| 14:05.26 | stew | uid0: lets hope you are not on sid, though |
| 14:05.33 | uid0 | sid is the version? |
| 14:05.37 | jarjar26 | noting, no error ... se it : htt://mlc.homelinux.com:88/php2.php |
| 14:05.38 | LSorensen | caoilte: ehm, no that just means the kernel-headers package isn't installed |
| 14:06.23 | jarjar26 | no error in log, no entry in access log ... very stange |
| 14:06.26 | caoilte | LSorensen: hmm, 'kay. i just know rebooting won't help, i had the same problem when i tried installing the 2.6.7 kernel. |
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| 14:08.00 | szzs | hi, i typed a lspci cmd. 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78) this shows that i have a 3c905C-TX 3com card or just i have a 3com card which works with that driver atm? |
| 14:08.19 | stew | jarjar26: is the php page relatively simple? you might try just putting "echo( "foo"); return;" at the top of the php page to make sure it isn't a problem with your php code |
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| 14:08.39 | jarjar26 | stew, only phpinfo(); |
| 14:09.32 | jarjar26 | stew, all of my php application (like phpmyadmin, squirrelmail, working good before i do apt-get upgrade ) |
| 14:09.43 | stew | jarjar26: what version of php do you have now? |
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| 14:10.08 | uid0 | i got the dpkg errors |
| 14:10.13 | uid0 | iit got errors in the files |
| 14:10.32 | uid0 | ldconfig, start-daemon, install, update rc.d |
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| 14:10.50 | jarjar26 | stew php 4.4.0.1 |
| 14:11.12 | stew | jarjar26: oh, you are on sid... did you check the bts? |
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| 14:11.29 | jarjar26 | stew , nop :( |
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| 14:11.50 | stew | jarjar26: does phpinfo work from the cli? |
| 14:12.03 | riemensc | tralala 2.4.27-2-686 standard kernel debian sarge |
| 14:12.11 | jarjar26 | not from internet, but locally works very good |
| 14:12.21 | andyetitmoves | hi! can anyone tell me why the tar module (libtar.so) is missing from libgnomevfs2-common |
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| 14:12.39 | stew | jarjar26: you mean 4:4.4.0-1, not 4.4.0.1 right? |
| 14:12.40 | Modulator | aaarrrggghhh |
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| 14:12.56 | jarjar26 | ii php4 4.4.0-1 |
| 14:12.57 | Modulator | the x-window-system says fatal error.... |
| 14:13.12 | Modulator | why i ever did install linux!!!! |
| 14:13.21 | Modulator | i cant stand these errorer |
| 14:13.23 | Modulator | s |
| 14:13.37 | Scorpaen | Modulator, go try Ubuntu |
| 14:13.49 | szzs | hi, i typed a lspci cmd. one line is: 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78). Does this mean that i have a 3com card model 3c905C-TX? OR i have a 3com card which works with that 3c905C-TX driver? |
| 14:13.51 | Modulator | why? |
| 14:13.59 | Scorpaen | i've heard it's easier |
| 14:14.19 | Modulator | but there is no net install |
| 14:14.41 | Scorpaen | yes szzs |
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| 14:14.54 | jarjar26 | stew, in bts, i dont find bugs about php |
| 14:14.57 | szzs | Scorpaen which part is yes? |
| 14:15.14 | Scorpaen | szzs, you have that model 3com card and it should work with the 3com 905c driver |
| 14:15.16 | Modulator | I JUST INSTALLED DEBIAN AND I DONT WANT TO INSTALL IT AGAIN OR OTHER |
| 14:15.17 | prower | Hello everyone :> I'm new to Debian, so sorry if this is a common question...but would it be considered safe to use testing packages in a server environment? |
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| 14:15.46 | websdale | Modulator: well don't then |
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| 14:15.51 | Modulator | how can i reconfigure x-window-system |
| 14:15.53 | szzs | Scorpaen it should work or it is working now? |
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| 14:16.13 | s_ward | !drxx Modulator |
| 14:16.13 | dpkg | Modulator: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 14:16.24 | michael__ | hi! |
| 14:16.36 | Scorpaen | szzs, i dunno. try it? |
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| 14:16.38 | stew | jarjar26: ask #php and if you can't figure it out, file a bug |
| 14:16.42 | Scorpaen | szzs, what problem are you having? |
| 14:17.08 | szzs | it seems that my eth card cant be set to FD |
| 14:17.08 | Modulator | oh, do i have to type that dpkg-reconfigure xxxxxxx?? |
| 14:17.09 | stew | prower: no, because testing doesn't get security updates |
| 14:17.20 | Ecligprs | Modulator, yes |
| 14:17.20 | s_ward | Modulator, yes |
| 14:17.21 | szzs | Scorpaen: and i think that the driver is the problem |
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| 14:17.28 | Scorpaen | FD? |
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| 14:17.35 | szzs | Scorpaen: full dupley |
| 14:17.36 | szzs | x |
| 14:17.40 | ma3x | streuner, are you there? |
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| 14:17.55 | jarjar26 | on #php they told me to go to debian channel :( i will fill bts ! thanks for your time ! |
| 14:17.56 | Modulator | ok, but i dont understand about that configure some parts |
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| 14:18.04 | prower | stew: Oh, I see :/ And I guess the stable packages aren't updated frequently, save for security updates? |
| 14:18.14 | Modulator | i mean that keyboard thing |
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| 14:18.21 | stew | prower: they aren't updated ever, save for security updates |
| 14:18.24 | ma3x | I can connect --> PPP negotiation detected. and it provides me with dns1 dns2 ip, but I can't do nothing |
| 14:18.29 | ma3x | stew can you help me out? |
| 14:19.02 | Modulator | but i havent get that answer about why x-windows-server says fatal error and something about core devices |
| 14:19.04 | Modulator | ? |
| 14:19.09 | Pedro | fala |
| 14:19.15 | gnetux | my lmule doesn't work,sombody help me |
| 14:19.18 | uid0 | im getting these stupid errors installing sshd |
| 14:19.26 | uid0 | this sucks |
| 14:19.32 | prower | stew: Ahh...well that's kind of unfortunate, I guess getting new packages in certain cases must be rather difficult :> |
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| 14:19.40 | uid0 | btw, im using 3.0 |
| 14:19.50 | andyetitmoves | i am not able to get the tar module in gnome vfs to work, can anyone help me ? |
| 14:19.57 | stew | ma3x: "can't do nothing" what does that mean |
| 14:19.59 | Modulator | can any body help? |
| 14:20.04 | pngwn | Modulator, you may be too lazy for linux...you need to TRY to help yourself |
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| 14:20.18 | gnetux | abrotman:help |
| 14:20.19 | stew | prower: thats the whole point of stable, it's not stable as in not crashy, its stable as in not moving |
| 14:20.28 | abrotman | gnetux: hrm .. ok ? |
| 14:20.34 | Modulator | but i dont understand all the englis because i'm finnish |
| 14:20.36 | uid0 | smoeone help? |
| 14:20.40 | gnetux | abrotman:my lmule doesn't work,sombody help me |
| 14:20.42 | nkuttler_ | !tell Modulator about set up x |
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| 14:20.48 | ma3x | stew: Ican't resolv or ping |
| 14:20.51 | Modulator | osaako kukaan auttaa mua suomeks?? |
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| 14:20.54 | abrotman | gnetux: i don't even know what lmule is |
| 14:20.54 | pngwn | Modulator, is ther a #debian for finnish speakers? |
| 14:20.55 | ma3x | stew: just like if you weren't connected |
| 14:21.02 | greycat | !fi |
| 14:21.02 | dpkg | it has been said that fi is Finland, or the end of an if block, or an abreviation for First-In....as in FIFO First In First Out |
| 14:21.02 | abrotman | !fu |
| 14:21.03 | dpkg | [fu] _____ |
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| 14:21.04 | stew | ma3x: sounds like a routing problem |
| 14:21.09 | abrotman | misfire |
| 14:21.11 | Modulator | ? |
| 14:21.13 | gnetux | abrotman:symbol _7wxPanel.sm_eventTable, |
| 14:21.14 | joe____ | does anyone know how fedora does for their nice graphical boot? |
| 14:21.15 | stew | ma3x: what is your default route? |
| 14:21.18 | Modulator | i don't know |
| 14:21.21 | gnetux | version WXGTK_2.4 not defined in file libwx_gtk-2.4.so.0 with link time reference |
| 14:21.22 | greycat | gnetux: smells like C++ |
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| 14:21.28 | abrotman | gnetux: still doesn't help me ... |
| 14:21.31 | Modulator | mut varmaan joku osais auttaa... |
| 14:21.34 | SDFH_Linux | guys what debian cds do i need to do a install of debian with gnome |
| 14:21.42 | prower | stew: Hmm...well, what would be the best way of running more recent "stable" packages? |
| 14:21.43 | SDFH_Linux | i cant do the netinstall |
| 14:21.57 | Modulator | ei puhuta 'a''a'kk'o'si'' |
| 14:22.04 | gnetux | i need a sigaret :( |
| 14:22.06 | abrotman | wtf |
| 14:22.07 | Modulator | 'a' |
| 14:22.08 | abrotman | !it |
| 14:22.09 | dpkg | somebody said italian was per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 14:22.13 | greycat | prower: you can have stable, or recent. not both. |
| 14:22.38 | ma3x | stew: what does mean default route? /dev/modem |
| 14:22.41 | stew | prower: there isn't a good one. backport them by hand, read debian-security-announce, and get ready to do security backporting and patching by hand |
| 14:22.45 | CosmoDad | in my LAN, machine A's uid/gid space doesn't correspond to machine B's (being an NFS server). I think the tool "ugidd" is what I need to map, say, user "foo" on A to user "bar" on B, but I can't find a way to configure this. Can anyone help me? |
| 14:22.48 | prower | greycat: Yes, that I understand :> But if testing doesn't receive security updates, I guess that's not a viable option? |
| 14:23.00 | prower | stew: Ahh, thanks...I'll have to check that out |
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| 14:23.21 | Msoffical | Hey all when you apt-get cyrus21-imapd where is the config file located so i can change where the imap server finds login and password for email accounts? It tried to dpkg --info cyrus21-imapd but came nothing. |
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| 14:24.35 | s_ward | Msoffical, somewhere in /etc/ ? |
| 14:25.06 | Msoffical | s-ward I found /etc/cryus.conf nothing in there about the authentication |
| 14:25.36 | stew | ma3x: i mean your default tcp/ip route, as reported by ip route, or the line with the G from route -n |
| 14:25.49 | SDFH_Linux | guys what debian cds do i need to do a install of debian with gnome |
| 14:25.53 | gnetux | abrotman:i still can do nothing with my ntfs ;( |
| 14:26.00 | Ungy | Msoffical, try /j #cyrus |
| 14:26.01 | abrotman | this is why ntfs is bafd |
| 14:26.09 | joe____ | gnetux, tried NIS? |
| 14:26.45 | gnetux | joe____: to do what? |
| 14:26.47 | joe____ | CosmoDad, tried NIS? |
| 14:26.52 | joe____ | gnetux, sorry. :-) |
| 14:27.06 | riemensc | howto have multiple gcc versions on one system using them via global compiler vars is correct then? |
| 14:27.32 | ma3x | stew: 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 14:27.46 | Msoffical | ok thanks Ungy. |
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| 14:28.03 | ma3x | stew, thats with UG flags, and the first one is : 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 14:28.11 | CosmoDad | joe____: no and I don't want to |
| 14:28.23 | sinn | Hello to all. Where i can get supermount module for default kernel 2.6 in debian sarge or patch? |
| 14:28.30 | CosmoDad | joe____: it's just two or three accounts I need to map... |
| 14:28.36 | sinn | Google in silent :( |
| 14:28.51 | CosmoDad | joe____: and my machines are supposed to use different user accounts... |
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| 14:29.14 | stew | ma3x: that doens't look like ppp to me. ppp would have set up a point to point route. is this machine on some other network? |
| 14:29.34 | stew | ma3x: but its been years since i've used ppp |
| 14:29.38 | ma3x | stew, I am using my ADSL now |
| 14:29.54 | stew | ma3x: did you give pppd the defaultroute option? |
| 14:29.59 | ma3x | stew, no |
| 14:30.02 | ma3x | how I do that? |
| 14:30.07 | stew | ma3x: man pppd |
| 14:30.18 | ma3x | ah stew :and if i use kppp, the pppd daemon crashes sometimes |
| 14:30.31 | ma3x | or sometimes it works, but I get this screen "Loggin on..." and nothing happens |
| 14:30.45 | dimir | !beer dimir |
| 14:30.50 | stew | ma3x: i've never heard or kppp before |
| 14:30.51 | sinn | Hello to all. Where i can get supermount module for default kernel 2.6 in debian sarge or patch? |
| 14:30.58 | prower | Well, it is a server, so older stuff should be fine :> How often does a stable release of Debian tend to come out? |
| 14:31.00 | dimir | :-( |
| 14:31.18 | ma3x | stew, and what should i set as default route? |
| 14:31.44 | stew | ma3x: you should be telling pppd to get one from the other end, when it gets stuff from dhcp |
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| 14:32.55 | stew | ma3x: kppp depedns on ppp, its just a frontend, so man pppd still applies |
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| 14:33.26 | ma3x | stew, i can't understand pppd, too complicated for me |
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| 14:33.45 | stew | guess you are out of luck then |
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| 14:34.44 | Lee__ | how do I get a cute penguin in the upper left screen corner at boot? I already got the vga=773 part... |
| 14:35.27 | Lee__ | is it a kernel option? |
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| 14:35.58 | poncha|work | hi |
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| 14:36.56 | poncha|work | any idea why installing evolution requires removing my kernel? :) |
| 14:36.59 | dimir | lee: you will need to recompile kernel, AFAIK |
| 14:37.12 | dimir | Lee__ I mean |
| 14:37.35 | poncha|work | apt-get install evolution >>> The following packages will be REMOVED: initrd-tools kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 |
| 14:37.38 | Lee__ | no way. damn! just for a penguin...or Debian logo. |
| 14:37.47 | SDFH_Linux | what does vga=733 do? |
| 14:37.52 | Lee__ | poncha|work: that's an old kernel |
| 14:38.11 | Lee__ | SDFH_Linux: 1024x768@256 colors console |
| 14:38.19 | poncha|work | Lee__, but that operation does not include installing any other kernel image... in fact it even removes initrd |
| 14:38.35 | SDFH_Linux | Lee_ is that during boot up? |
| 14:38.41 | Lee__ | poncha|work: update your kernel to 2.6.8-2 and it should go away. |
| 14:38.50 | CosmoDad | so does anyone know how to map UIDs/GIDs from one NFS-client to different UIDs/GIDs on an NFS-server (even statically) ? |
| 14:38.52 | poncha|work | will try |
| 14:38.58 | Lee__ | SDFH_Linux: add it to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 14:39.08 | fatal__ | poncha|work: probably not related to evolution... the packages has probably been tagged for removal, so next time apt is run (which happens to be when you are trying to install evolution) is when it'll actually happen. |
| 14:39.14 | SDFH_Linux | k |
| 14:39.17 | Lee__ | that + GPM == console GUI! |
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| 14:39.52 | Lee__ | CosmoDad: NIS, I think. |
| 14:40.11 | s_ward | Lee__, does vga=733 use the framebuffer? That's where Tux lives, I think. |
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| 14:40.20 | Lee__ | dimir: would you know the kernel option for the picture, off hand? |
| 14:40.21 | fatal__ | poncha|work: try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ... or even apt-get dist-upgrade .... seems like you're running a kernel from pre-release Sarge or something. |
| 14:40.34 | CosmoDad | Lee__: ... not using NIS :) AFAIK, it uses equal accounts but does no mapping |
| 14:40.37 | Lee__ | s_ward: it does. tux isn't in that framebuffer. |
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| 14:41.06 | poncha|work | fatal__, but i did not move away from using initrd (i.e. i did not compile my own kernel , neither did i use the kernel-package ) ... and i'm running sid (from the moment this ws was installed, that was the latest kernel in sid back then iirc) |
| 14:41.25 | Lee__ | poncha|work: perhaps you should be running sarge? |
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| 14:42.11 | fatal__ | poncha|work: you're running an outdatet version of sid..... never a good thing... if you're going to run sid you most likely want to upgrade your system and install new packages more or less every day. |
| 14:42.12 | poncha|work | Lee__, why? this is a workstation, i care less of its stability than of availability of more recent packages |
| 14:42.12 | JoshH | ya, welcome to sid |
| 14:42.21 | uid0 | is there a way to run apt-get install, and have it search web instead of cdrom? |
| 14:42.35 | Lee__ | poncha|work: than read up on the definition of the word "unstable". |
| 14:42.48 | joe____ | for information: rhgb does the graphical thing while booting fedora. |
| 14:42.50 | fatal__ | uid0: apt-setup, choose http (or ftp). |
| 14:42.54 | JoshH | uid0: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, or run apt-setup |
| 14:42.55 | uid0 | k |
| 14:43.00 | dimir | Lee__: I think you will need to add a framebuffer support for that |
| 14:43.07 | joe____ | ubuntu is debian based... how do they do the graphical boot too? |
| 14:43.11 | uid0 | how do i install .deb packages? |
| 14:43.15 | JoshH | joe____: patches |
| 14:43.21 | greycat | uid0: man dpkg, man apt-get |
| 14:43.24 | Lee__ | dimir: that's what I thought, but I can get a hi-res framebuffer at boot but there's no penguin!? |
| 14:43.26 | joe____ | in my debian Iam using bootsplash, but their are waaaaaaaay nice |
| 14:43.45 | uid0 | thnx |
| 14:43.47 | JoshH | Lee__: the logo support option needs to be in the kernel |
| 14:43.55 | poncha|work | Lee__, i am not complaining on the meaning of the word "unstable" :) (in fact, beside some broken dependencies at the moment some packages are initially released , everything is as stable as it is in sarge.. ) |
| 14:43.59 | dimir | Lee__: So are you sure your kernel is compiled with a FB support? |
| 14:44.01 | Lee__ | JoshH: would you know the option or config section, off hand? |
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| 14:44.15 | JoshH | its in the framebuffer section somewhere |
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| 14:44.17 | poncha|work | ok, gonna up the kernel to the latest 2.6x in the line in sid and see what happens :) |
| 14:44.44 | Lee__ | dimir: I can work in a 1024x768 console without X and the fbcon modules is loaded. |
| 14:44.49 | Lee__ | JoshH: thanks |
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| 14:45.34 | abrotman | pff .. 80x24! |
| 14:45.52 | joe____ | JoshH, rhgb uses an X server on :1 and a gnome "vte widget"... ubuntu does all that in kernel? |
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| 14:46.21 | JoshH | joe____: i thought they just used bootsplash |
| 14:46.31 | JoshH | maybe im wrong though, i use debian |
| 14:47.18 | Lee__ | I can't wait for aalib based 3D games for a hi-res console. |
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| 14:47.48 | s_ward | aalib mplayer's good too |
| 14:47.53 | ma3x | stew are you still there? |
| 14:47.54 | CosmoDad | is it explicitly *not* recommended to use the user-space NFS server? |
| 14:48.00 | s_ward | works fine in 80x24 |
| 14:48.25 | ma3x | stew, I have successfully connected now. When I do route -n it shows 194.230.4.21 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 |
| 14:48.27 | Lee__ | CONFIG_FB_VESA! off by default in sarge. argh! |
| 14:48.33 | ma3x | But the problem is the system is still not using the connection |
| 14:48.39 | joe____ | I use debian for years now.. I saw a fedora booting yestarday and was amazed by the eye-cand stuff :-) |
| 14:48.44 | ma3x | Should I specify somewhere the interface to use? |
| 14:48.57 | joe____ | now I want something like that :-P |
| 14:49.01 | Lee__ | joe____: debian lets you configure the eye candy yourself |
| 14:49.11 | dimir | Lee__: maybe then you are missing needed /dev/fb* devices for the appropreate vga mode: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.2 |
| 14:49.37 | Lee__ | dimir: nope, I just got it. It's a CONFIG_FB_* option and it's turned off by default in sarge. |
| 14:49.55 | JoshH | joe____: the fedora boot hides all the dmesg information though, why woud you want that to be replaced by a "progress bar"? |
| 14:49.58 | joe____ | yeah Lee__ , I have patched my grub, my kernel with bootsplash.. but imho fedora looks better than my setup |
| 14:50.06 | dimir | lee: great |
| 14:50.09 | dimir | Lee__ I mean |
| 14:50.11 | joe____ | no JoshH, there is a verbose option |
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| 14:50.16 | JoshH | joe____: you can use bootsplash to make it look just like fedora |
| 14:50.19 | JoshH | http://bootsplash.org/ |
| 14:50.24 | dimir | damn, guys, cut out the underscores in your nick names :-) |
| 14:50.29 | JoshH | http://bootsplash.org/silent-mode.jpg |
| 14:50.35 | JoshH | isnt that what fedora looks like? |
| 14:50.40 | joe____ | they use a VTE widget (wich is like a console) http://developer.gnome.org/arch/gnome/widgets/vte.html |
| 14:50.53 | stew | ma3x: you still need a default route |
| 14:50.55 | JoshH | i havent seen fedora boot since FC1 |
| 14:50.57 | JoshH | so maybe they changed it |
| 14:51.10 | samuel | hello all |
| 14:51.10 | ma3x | stew, isnt that what i pasted the route? |
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| 14:51.16 | s_ward | Lee__, aah, I finally discovered where you got 773 from; I use 0x305 (773 decimal) because grub handles hex :P |
| 14:51.43 | Lee__ | s_ward: printf %d 0x305 |
| 14:51.48 | stew | ma3x: thats a host route, you need a gateway route to that host, pppd should have set this up for you if you specified the defaultroute option |
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| 14:52.02 | stew | ma3x: check if pppd is running with the defaultroute option |
| 14:52.17 | s_ward | Lee__, yes, I noticed |
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| 14:52.57 | F-Secure | that dpkg reconfigure wasn't working |
| 14:53.02 | ma3x | stew: i use wvdial. |
| 14:53.05 | Lee__ | although it seems to accept a vga=ask option too |
| 14:53.15 | s_ward | Lee__, I don't need no stinkin' decimal! I count in hex :P |
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| 14:53.33 | stew | ma3x: i use rxvt |
| 14:53.33 | ma3x | stew: if its not running with the defaultroute option, where should i specify that (in the config file?) |
| 14:53.47 | Modulator | DPKG WASN'T WORKING |
| 14:53.56 | s_ward | !shout |
| 14:54.02 | stew | ma3x: in the configuration of whatever is starting pppd |
| 14:54.19 | Modulator | how can i reconfigure x-window-system? |
| 14:54.22 | redtime | s_ward: lol :] |
| 14:54.24 | Lee__ | Modulator: congradulations! what did you do to fix it? |
| 14:54.32 | samuel | i seem to have lost the ability to automount usb drives and the like... i dont know what i did, any ideas? i can mount, and all is fine, but gnome no longer does this for me... |
| 14:54.34 | s_ward | there's one for that too |
| 14:54.36 | s_ward | !lol |
| 14:54.36 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a honey badger. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 14:54.37 | Modulator | nothing |
| 14:54.54 | stew | ma3x: i thought you said you use kppp? |
| 14:55.09 | Modulator | well i tried to install it again but you know that it's impossible |
| 14:55.12 | redtime | s_ward: i can say only this: loooool :] |
| 14:55.12 | ma3x | stew, both kppp and the other one |
| 14:55.19 | ma3x | wvdial |
| 14:55.22 | Ungy | Modulator, what is the problem? |
| 14:55.37 | Lee__ | !tell Modulator about reconfigure x |
| 14:55.45 | Modulator | x-window-server doesn't work |
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| 14:55.53 | Modulator | it says fatal error |
| 14:55.57 | Ungy | !doesn't work |
| 14:55.57 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 14:56.01 | ma3x | stew, is route = gateway? |
| 14:56.16 | rocky23_ | Modulator: dpkg --reconfigure x-server-xfree86 |
| 14:56.17 | Modulator | and something about core devices |
| 14:56.31 | rocky23_ | Modulator: was it to do with the mouse psaux ? |
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| 14:56.56 | Modulator | well i didn't understand it very well |
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| 14:57.01 | stew | ma3x: no, a route is a rule to the tcp/ip stack that says, "if you want to send a packet to x send it via y", Y could be a gateway |
| 14:57.05 | Ungy | it has to be the mouse |
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| 14:57.40 | Modulator | what is the correct driver? |
| 14:57.42 | SDFH_Linux | guys i have a laptop that i cant do a netinstall on what debian installl cds do i need not all 7 right? |
| 14:57.49 | ma3x | stew, so how can i specify that in wvdial or kppp? |
| 14:57.51 | Modulator | i selected the mice thing |
| 14:57.52 | Lee__ | here's the million dollar question, where is the boot logo stored in the kernel? |
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| 14:58.14 | stew | ma3x: are you asking me to install those and read the documentation for you? |
| 14:58.34 | ma3x | hehe nah :) |
| 14:58.39 | ma3x | im not that polite :[ |
| 14:58.43 | joe____ | depends.. in a .h file or a jpeg in a filesystem ;-) |
| 14:58.50 | Modulator | is that dpkg line correct: dpkg --reconfigure xxxxxxxxxxx? |
| 14:58.55 | ma3x | stew, btw, what did you use in your time pppd? |
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| 14:59.25 | Modulator | is that dpkg line correct: dpkg --reconfigure xxxxxxxxxxx? |
| 14:59.31 | SDFH_Linux | guys i have a laptop that i cant do a netinstall on what debian installl cds do i need not all 7 right? |
| 14:59.34 | Modulator | i am asking a question |
| 14:59.36 | stew | ma3x: /etc/ppp/ppp.on.boot.dsl iirc |
| 14:59.52 | Ungy | Modulator, yes and dude stop being so damned pushy |
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| 15:00.00 | thingfish | Modulator: yes |
| 15:00.01 | joe____ | SDFH_Linux, no.Unless you install obscure packages |
| 15:00.09 | Modulator | but i don't understand linux very well |
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| 15:00.19 | Modulator | ill come back if it does |
| 15:00.22 | Ungy | SDFH_Linux, depends on what you need base install is on Disk1 |
| 15:00.23 | Modulator | not work |
| 15:00.29 | Modulator | ill come back if it does not work |
| 15:00.35 | SDFH_Linux | i need gnome |
| 15:00.39 | Modulator | bye for now |
| 15:00.39 | joe____ | dpkg --configure only... man dpkg |
| 15:00.47 | SDFH_Linux | is gnome on disk 1 |
| 15:00.52 | thingfish | SDFH_Linux: you could probably get by with the first 3. |
| 15:00.56 | SDFH_Linux | ok |
| 15:00.57 | ma3x | stew, that's for dsl |
| 15:00.59 | stew | SDFH_Linux: there are 14 or 15 not seven. Will this machine never be on the network to install packages? or it just can't retrieve base from the net? |
| 15:01.00 | Ungy | SDFH_Linux, you need the first 3 I think |
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| 15:01.45 | SDFH_Linux | i need stew to get it installed to the point of having gnome then i will use ndiswrapper and then it will be able to go on the net |
| 15:02.06 | Ungy | so you need ndiswrapper? |
| 15:02.10 | thingfish | and I don't know where you got the idea it's only 7 CDs - it's 14. |
| 15:02.13 | SDFH_Linux | yes |
| 15:02.21 | stew | ma3x: yes. before that i probably just did pon provider, after setting up /etc/ppp/peers/provider, which just uses chat directly |
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| 15:02.36 | sirv | is there a good way to handle iptables under debian? or rather is there any other way then to write your on startup script for them? |
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| 15:03.11 | stew | SDFH_Linux: so it sounds like you just need to know which cd ndiswrapper is on? |
| 15:03.21 | SDFH_Linux | yes and a base install |
| 15:03.24 | ma3x | stew, OK I looked at kppp documentation and in the configuration "default gateway" is checked, static is unchecked and "assign the default route to this gateway" is also checked. Any problems with that? |
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| 15:03.30 | stew | SDFH_Linux: base install is on the netinst cd |
| 15:03.59 | SDFH_Linux | do you know where ndiswrapper is |
| 15:04.04 | stew | ma3x: sounds good |
| 15:04.28 | ma3x | stew: should i check 'auto configure hostname for this ip' ? |
| 15:04.34 | Lee__ | DoppleGanger: I'm not married. |
| 15:04.35 | ma3x | its warning me that i could experience some problems in X |
| 15:05.00 | Lee__ | sirv: some people like firewall builder. |
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| 15:05.16 | Lee__ | so...anyone know where the boot logo is stored in the kernel? |
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| 15:05.47 | stew | ma3x: dunno. dunno what that means |
| 15:05.53 | nvz | until I can get a card for my mp3 player to up the memory.. I think I could use a way to batch convert the songs and make a little more room. I got 28 on there now.. but I think I can sqeeze 30 :P |
| 15:05.57 | zimnyx | what can be a reason that: "module-assistant prepare" returns wanring: "Warning, /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source!". i got configured sources in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8.1/ (btw ".1" is missing in warning's path ) |
| 15:06.01 | DoppleGanger | :) |
| 15:06.16 | ma3x | stew, the main problem is that debian doesn't know what interface to use, because i have eth0 as well |
| 15:06.22 | ma3x | so does the defaultroute specify that? |
| 15:06.34 | nvz | I already clipped some songs.. but not enough to fit two more on there |
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| 15:06.57 | Lee__ | zimnyx: you can usually get away with just installing the kernel-headers package. |
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| 15:07.12 | nvz | says it supports mp3, wma, and wav. got to me some way I can make them a bit smaller |
| 15:07.16 | stew | ma3x: if you have a default route you should remove it before connecting with pppd |
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| 15:07.27 | zimnyx | Lee__: i compiled kernel on my own, do i really need it? |
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| 15:07.57 | Lee__ | zimnyx: nope. just point m-a to your configured source or link /usr/src/linux to it. |
| 15:08.01 | uid0 | is there a way to upgrade debian through the internet? |
| 15:08.11 | Lee__ | uid0: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 15:08.20 | uid0 | but I mean upgrade the whole operating system |
| 15:08.22 | uid0 | and reinstall everything |
| 15:08.32 | Lee__ | yes, that upgrades the whole operating system. |
| 15:08.35 | uid0 | kk |
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| 15:08.50 | Lee__ | reinstall != upgrade |
| 15:09.03 | kl1 | hi, to install squit is apt-get install squit ? |
| 15:09.42 | uid0 | how come it's only a 54 mb download? |
| 15:09.48 | zimnyx | Lee__: after creating symink /usr/src/linux, but the same problem occours |
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| 15:09.57 | greycat | what the hell's a squit? |
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| 15:10.10 | FieldySnuts | server quit |
| 15:10.20 | Lee__ | than you don't have configured kernel source |
| 15:10.28 | kl1 | to install squit is apt-get install squit ? |
| 15:10.32 | Lee__ | uid0: cause that's all you need to upgrade |
| 15:10.38 | uid0 | oh, ok |
| 15:10.46 | Lee__ | apt is smart |
| 15:10.50 | uid0 | but upgrading might fix all these weird errors I've been getting, right? |
| 15:10.51 | FieldySnuts | !info squit |
| 15:10.56 | FieldySnuts | !test |
| 15:11.05 | DoppleGanger | wht teh hell kinda name is squit |
| 15:11.08 | Lee__ | uid0: no, fixing all the weird errors you are getting will probably do it better. |
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| 15:11.13 | DoppleGanger | might as well be spit |
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| 15:11.24 | uid0 | what do you mean? |
| 15:11.29 | zimnyx | Lee__: i configured and compiled kernel, how is it possible that sources are not configured, file .config exists. |
| 15:11.30 | joe____ | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 15:11.30 | joe____ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.30 | joe____ | Install these packages without verification [y/N]? n |
| 15:11.30 | joe____ | E: Some packages could not be authenticated |
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| 15:11.39 | sirv | Lee__: thanks! |
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| 15:11.41 | kl1 | to install squit is apt-get install squit ? |
| 15:11.50 | jk|45 | i want to try use debian but not sure is it any different then redhat |
| 15:11.51 | warpig | kl1: yes |
| 15:11.54 | Lee__ | zimnyx: not sure. maybe you did it wrong? did you use kernel-package? |
| 15:11.54 | FieldySnuts | kl1: who knows, but please stop repeating |
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| 15:12.08 | joe____ | never happened before.. is that ok??? |
| 15:12.09 | kl1 | it says program not found |
| 15:12.12 | greycat | if you wanted squid, there's no 't' in it. |
| 15:12.15 | FieldySnuts | sigh |
| 15:12.20 | uid0 | Lee__: what did you mean by that? |
| 15:12.27 | zimnyx | Lee__: not at all, i compiled it kernel way |
| 15:12.30 | samuel | i seem to be having trouble with hal... hal no longer seems to know when new devices are plugged in... or could the problem be in hotplug? |
| 15:12.31 | stew | zimnyx: are you trying to run m-a for a kernel other than the running kenrel? |
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| 15:12.34 | uid0 | it's nto really erros, its just like failed dependencies here and files not found here and there. |
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| 15:12.43 | Lee__ | uid0: I meant you should not expect an automated process to "fix all your weird problems". be specific about your problems. |
| 15:12.44 | zimnyx | stew: no, it's for a running kernel |
| 15:13.04 | uid0 | yeah, basically most the erros i was getting were just like missing files, or missing dependencies, etc. |
| 15:13.15 | stew | zimnyx: does /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build symlink to the kenrel-source directory? |
| 15:13.35 | Lee__ | zimnyx: try making a .deb with kernel-package. |
| 15:13.38 | joe____ | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! while using apt with ftp.debian.org ... is that ok?? |
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| 15:13.47 | stew | joe____: /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 15:13.51 | FieldySnuts | ~topicsmite joe____ |
| 15:13.51 | apt | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon joe____. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 15:13.53 | kl1 | any one had install squit? |
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| 15:14.08 | FieldySnuts | kl1: you're not listening to a thing we are saying, so go away |
| 15:14.12 | micjack | holas |
| 15:14.18 | FieldySnuts | hi micjack |
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| 15:14.28 | E|ement | i wanna to use a script in debian.. to run under an username a program who run only under root?how to do this? |
| 15:14.33 | kl1 | FieldySnuts u dont tell me anything |
| 15:14.38 | stew | FieldySnuts: is there something in the /topic he should have seen? |
| 15:14.48 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.51 | joe____ | thanks. |
| 15:14.54 | micjack | holas |
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| 15:15.15 | micjack | holas |
| 15:15.16 | Lee__ | uid0: why is your system missing required files? which files? what are you trying to do? |
| 15:15.20 | stew | E|ement: sounds like a job for sudo |
| 15:15.44 | zimnyx | stew: cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build goes right into the sources |
| 15:15.47 | micjack | haver |
| 15:15.59 | micjack | ya |
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| 15:16.36 | E|ement | stew yes... something like sudo |
| 15:16.42 | micjack | hh |
| 15:16.46 | kl1 | have any one intall squit? |
| 15:16.55 | Lee__ | micjack: too much coffee? |
| 15:17.08 | E|ement | stew but in sudo reguest password for root |
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| 15:17.11 | micjack | h |
| 15:17.14 | stew | zimnyx: what does uname -r say? do you also have a /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 directory? |
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| 15:17.45 | micjack | ya |
| 15:17.46 | micjack | ok |
| 15:17.48 | micjack | ahora si |
| 15:17.55 | kl1 | que? |
| 15:17.56 | stew | E|ement: you can make it not ask for a password by configuring it with visudo ; man sudoers |
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| 15:18.04 | thingfish | !es |
| 15:18.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:18.05 | kl1 | alguien ah instalado squi? |
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| 15:18.12 | Lee__ | !es |
| 15:18.17 | E|ement | stew thanks |
| 15:18.19 | Lee__ | sorry |
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| 15:18.28 | kl1 | !es |
| 15:18.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:18.50 | kl1 | :) |
| 15:18.58 | Angel-SL | !en |
| 15:18.58 | dpkg | english, you twit |
| 15:19.07 | kl1 | !no |
| 15:19.07 | dpkg | No Offense |
| 15:19.11 | kl1 | xDD |
| 15:19.15 | Angel-SL | !yes |
| 15:19.15 | dpkg | really??? wohoo! |
| 15:19.19 | Angel-SL | LOL |
| 15:19.19 | Lee__ | I wonder what en says in #debian-es? |
| 15:19.25 | zimnyx | stew: i use 2.6.8.1 # uname -r say 2.6.8.1 # so it's the same. i got kernel sources in /usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1/ |
| 15:19.48 | kl1 | any one has install squit? |
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| 15:20.09 | Skrotto | When is 2.6.13 expected, and how soon after is debian sid expected to have a 686 image for it? :P |
| 15:20.15 | Angel-SL | !sp |
| 15:20.15 | dpkg | hmm... sp is troubled: you stats pimp! |
| 15:20.22 | kl1 | !it |
| 15:20.22 | dpkg | from memory, italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 15:20.26 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 15:20.39 | Angel-SL | !lt |
| 15:20.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lt is Lithuania |
| 15:20.49 | Angel-SL | !lt |
| 15:20.49 | dpkg | [lt] Lithuania |
| 15:20.59 | kl1 | !de |
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| 15:20.59 | dpkg | de is probably deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 15:21.20 | Ungy | !es |
| 15:21.20 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:21.24 | kopeck | just a quikie, is it still posable to isntall lilo from the netinstall CD on and exsiting install? I used to just mount the root inm /target and run lilo with Woody, but with Sarge I can't find a lilo binary and there's no /target. |
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| 15:21.42 | kl1 | any one has squit ? |
| 15:21.53 | kl1 | !fr |
| 15:21.53 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 15:21.59 | Angel-SL | !en |
| 15:21.59 | dpkg | english, you twit |
| 15:22.01 | Angel-SL | !en |
| 15:22.15 | pngwn | !pmm |
| 15:22.15 | dpkg | i guess pmm is please /msg me, don't make me spew to the channel, or you can go to #debian-bots if you want to play with me |
| 15:22.21 | kl1 | !nl |
| 15:22.21 | dpkg | .NL is the Netherlands. See http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html |
| 15:22.25 | stew | kl1: stop it |
| 15:23.06 | greycat | kl1: tell us what you think "squit" is supposed to be. |
| 15:23.15 | greycat | kl1: if you mean the caching web proxy, it's "squid" |
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| 15:23.20 | zimnyx | stew: what is weird, warning sais that there are no configured sorces in 2.6.8, not in 2.6.8.1. |
| 15:23.20 | sm | hi all |
| 15:23.37 | sm | what's the easiest way to get a running emacs to see an elisp package that's just been installed ? |
| 15:23.53 | sm | such as nxml-mode or python-mode.. without restarting |
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| 15:24.18 | stew | zimnyx: do you also have a /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8 directory? |
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| 15:24.31 | stew | sm: m-x load-file |
| 15:24.36 | zimnyx | stew: not at all, anly in 2.6.8.1 |
| 15:24.44 | sm | stew: doesn't work too well |
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| 15:24.48 | sm | try it for eg nxml-mode |
| 15:24.50 | stew | sm: why not? |
| 15:24.59 | stew | sm: what file are you loading? |
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| 15:25.13 | stew | zimnyx: this is when i reach for strace |
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| 15:25.16 | sm | (load-file "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml-mode/nxml-mode.el")) |
| 15:25.29 | PissedTrixBunny | hi, how do I check weather my ~/.xsession is working? |
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| 15:25.43 | sm | because (file-error "Cannot open load file" "xmltok") I guess |
| 15:25.44 | PissedTrixBunny | I feel like the global xsession takes over the wholet hing |
| 15:26.12 | stew | sm: i would try etc/emacs21/site-start.d/60nxml-mode.el first |
| 15:26.17 | smhar | I have 2.6.8.2-k7 kernel how do I upgrade it to 2.6.9.1-k7 ( the latest?) -I have nvidia driver |
| 15:26.25 | sm | that one complains because it doesn't know "flavor" |
| 15:26.39 | Angel-SL | any1 knows whjere to get dpkg |
| 15:26.58 | zimnyx | stew: even after " ln -s linux-2.6.8.1 kernel-source-2.6.8" warning still occours |
| 15:27.05 | greycat | Angel-SL: no, any1 doesn't know shit. |
| 15:27.09 | greycat | any1 is a fucking moron. |
| 15:27.13 | Lee__ | smhar: use kernel-package |
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| 15:27.53 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: how did you start X? |
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| 15:28.33 | Vibes | Hi all! I have a problem: all fonts in my X programs are too big, none is fairly usable :\ I used set-language-env to configure my system default local ton fr_FR... |
| 15:28.41 | sm | stew: I needed (setq flavor 'emacs21) first, that does it |
| 15:28.44 | sm | thank you |
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| 15:29.07 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, I use gdm |
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| 15:29.17 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, and it boots into fluxbox |
| 15:29.44 | joris | embarassing problem: installed apache2 and libapache2-mod-php4, but for some reason the webserver is still returning the source of the pages instead of the executed output |
| 15:30.16 | Ecligprs | joris, did you install php4 too |
| 15:30.27 | greycat | ~/.gnomerc |
| 15:30.27 | apt | ~/.gnomerc is the startup file for gdm, or <hippie> .gnomerc looks like it's pronounced "no mercy", or set the DEBUG_GNOME_SESSION variable to make ~/.gnomerc act sane |
| 15:30.41 | Lee__ | joris: there should be some stuff in /etc/apache2/ look at mods-enabled and mods-available |
| 15:30.48 | greycat | unless you clicked on "use debian session" or whatever |
| 15:30.49 | joris | Ecligprs: I installed all the default suggested dependencies, and modphp works on apache1 on the smae machine |
| 15:30.54 | joris | Lee__: it all looks fine :/ |
| 15:31.04 | PissedTrixBunny | greycat, thanks man |
| 15:31.06 | Lee__ | are you still running apache1.3? |
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| 15:31.36 | smhar | Lee__, kernel-package is installed |
| 15:31.37 | stew | joris: do you have both a LoadModule line and an AddType line for php? |
| 15:31.44 | joris | Lee__: on another ip on the same machine, yes |
| 15:31.44 | cahoot | joris: present in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled? |
| 15:31.45 | Lee__ | smhar: cool, now use it! |
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| 15:32.05 | Lee__ | joris: that might be hard to do, but I'm not sure. I always run on or the other. |
| 15:32.09 | joris | cahoot: yep, all present |
| 15:32.11 | Lee__ | s/on/one/ |
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| 15:32.40 | joris | stew: yup, both present :) |
| 15:33.30 | joris | Lee__: I'm pretty sure it's not due to the fact that I'm running both apaches |
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| 15:35.09 | EdsipeR | i got a problem, i can't run apt-get because i receive an segmentation fault from dpkg |
| 15:35.12 | EdsipeR | any ideas? |
| 15:35.27 | joris | EdsipeR: ouch... that's bad what version of debian are you running? |
| 15:35.34 | EdsipeR | sid |
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| 15:35.53 | Laibsch | Is there a way I can make the display all white or all black? I want to test for pixel failure on my laptop and do not yet have X running. |
| 15:35.54 | Lee__ | joris: okay, I was just sayin' |
| 15:36.03 | EdsipeR | joris, sid |
| 15:36.10 | beardy | Laibsch: man setterm |
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| 15:36.18 | Laibsch | beardy: Thank you. |
| 15:36.18 | Lee__ | EdsipeR: perhaps you should be running sarge? |
| 15:36.23 | joris | EdsipeR: you could try to isolate the segfault by running some dpkg operations manually, perhaps strace it |
| 15:36.29 | Angel-SL | Laibsch: logout. |
| 15:36.39 | joris | Lee__: I appreciate the help :) |
| 15:37.01 | EdsipeR | Lee__, but sid it's the unstable version, i have lot of time using this... |
| 15:37.17 | EdsipeR | joris, what you mean ? |
| 15:37.34 | Laibsch | Angel-SL: What do you mean logout? OK, it will be mostly black, then. But what about all white? I guess setterm as suggested by beardy will do the trick. |
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| 15:37.50 | joris | EdsipeR: what part don't you understand? |
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| 15:38.05 | EdsipeR | joris, how i can trace the problem... |
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| 15:38.54 | yeti | can i use a woody install CD to install sarge? |
| 15:39.07 | Lee__ | EdsipeR: perhaps you should reconsider running a developers branch if you don't know how to debug broken packages? or maybe read the developers info on the web site? |
| 15:39.14 | Lee__ | yeti: no. |
| 15:39.23 | joris | EdsipeR: strace, not trace :) apt-get install strace; strace -f [operation that causes segfault] |
| 15:39.23 | beardy | yeti: No. With a woody install cd you install woody. |
| 15:39.43 | yeti | beardy: yeah, but can i install woody, then upgrade to sarge? |
| 15:39.43 | joris | EdsipeR: it's output is very cryptic, but it's human interpretable if you use your brain |
| 15:39.54 | EdsipeR | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
| 15:40.01 | EdsipeR | i understand...let me try... |
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| 15:40.22 | joris | Lee__: hmmmm, I might have been wrong... I tried on another machine, and using the same config, apache2 works fine with php |
| 15:40.43 | beardy | yeti: Yes, but it's probably much better to get the sarge netinstaller cd, or the sarge cd or dvd-images. |
| 15:40.50 | Lee__ | it works fine with sarge here. |
| 15:41.06 | Lee__ | I have apache2 + php on two boxes ATM. |
| 15:41.25 | joris | Lee__: indeed, and I have it on one machine wich doesn't have apache 1 on it |
| 15:41.30 | cahoot | joris: out of interest - apart from your php issue no probs having both versions of apache installed? |
| 15:41.56 | yeti | beardy: okay. i don't want to use netinstaller because i might have to install it on a networkless machine, too - will CD image 1 be enough to install a base system, or will i need 1&2? |
| 15:41.58 | Lee__ | I once did have a problem with php modules loading automatically within a Xen virtual machine. |
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| 15:42.25 | beardy | yeti: For the base system, the first cd should be fine. |
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| 15:43.00 | yeti | thanks |
| 15:44.09 | joris | cahoot: not at all, actually... the worst I can imagine is a package dependency |
| 15:44.26 | joris | cahoot: it works really nicely these days... exept for that pesky php :) |
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| 15:44.39 | cahoot | joris: ok |
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| 15:45.30 | Laibsch | beardy: Thanks again for the help. Lucky me has no dead pixels! Yeah! |
| 15:45.36 | Laibsch | :-) |
| 15:45.52 | beardy | Laibsch: Great :) |
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| 15:46.45 | sobersabre | hello, how do I set ulimits on per user basis for bash users ? |
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| 15:47.06 | sobersabre | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.13 | sobersabre | nice space :) |
| 15:48.01 | ThePiratemaster | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:49.11 | sobersabre | ThePiratemaster, you get yourself a file libstdc++.so.6 , and put it into /usr/lib ..... |
| 15:49.17 | Ungy | If you were truley the pirate master you woudl know |
| 15:49.22 | ThePiratemaster | done that |
| 15:49.23 | sobersabre | :) |
| 15:49.29 | ThePiratemaster | so now it just works? |
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| 15:49.43 | Ungy | guess you rthe piratepretender |
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| 15:50.13 | sobersabre | empiric conclusions are the best, ThePiratemaster |
| 15:50.17 | ThePiratemaster | its a name dipshit, and pirates have nothing to do with librairies, software or linux |
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| 15:50.35 | Ungy | Software Pirates my good man |
| 15:50.51 | sobersabre | ThePiratemaster, it is version matching... |
| 15:50.52 | ThePiratemaster | thiose are pretenders |
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| 15:51.09 | ThePiratemaster | software pirates are just lame warezkids |
| 15:51.18 | dabaR | hah... |
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| 15:51.24 | dabaR | I love #debian, I must say. |
| 15:51.24 | sobersabre | ThePiratemaster, I wouldn't say so... |
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| 15:51.36 | ThePiratemaster | mostly they are |
| 15:51.39 | ThePiratemaster | brb |
| 15:51.51 | ThePiratemaster | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:51.56 | zimnyx | make oldconfig will prompt only for new configuration settings? |
| 15:52.03 | greycat | sobersabre: not /usr/lib. /lib. |
| 15:52.09 | Ungy | bet they would know how to find and place a library with the proper permissions in a directory |
| 15:52.23 | sobersabre | greycat, he wanted it in /usr/lib |
| 15:52.32 | sobersabre | I don't care :) |
| 15:52.32 | greycat | uh, why? |
| 15:52.37 | sobersabre | I don't care :) |
| 15:52.42 | Petaris | Has anyone delt with an SIL3114 SATA raid controller before? |
| 15:53.01 | sobersabre | where shall I put ulimit for bash users so they get this ulimit ? |
| 15:53.04 | Petaris | I can't seem to get debian to see the volume instead of the disks |
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| 15:53.11 | sobersabre | i mean ulimit call |
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| 15:53.19 | greycat | !wikifaq sobersabre DotFiles |
| 15:53.20 | dpkg | sobersabre: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 15:56.41 | Petaris | Has anyone been able to get the silicon image 3114 sata raid to work with linux? |
| 15:56.58 | Lee__ | is it possible to 'cat /dev/hda > disk.img' and write the image out to a blank disk? Will it keep the same bootloader and partitions even if the disk is a different size? |
| 15:57.29 | PissedTrixBunny | in Fedora, I remembered having something like administration services... that enabled me to configure my servers (httpd,ftp among others) via a gui. Is there something like that in Debian? I want to be able to configure my apache2, vsftpd, samba and netatalk with gui... or similiar tools for admin... thank you so much. |
| 15:58.05 | Petaris | PissedTrixBunny: Webmin maybe? |
| 15:58.12 | joris | Lee__: use dd if=/dev/hda of=disk.img - I prefer to image partiions myself |
| 15:58.12 | Lee__ | PissedTrixBunny: webmin, but a GUI for that stuff is really not very useful. samba has SWAT |
| 15:58.22 | dondelelcaro | PissedTrixBunny: the basic configuration gets done at install time using debconf; after that, you're generally going to be using a text editor unless you're doing mickey mouse stuff. |
| 15:58.25 | beardy | PissedTrixBunny: /msg dpkg webmin ? But it would be much better if you learned to configure them the real way. |
| 15:58.41 | joris | Lee__: it appears there really is an issue with running both apaches with php on the same machine :( |
| 15:58.45 | Lee__ | joris: cool, thanks. and I assume use dd the other way around to write it out? |
| 15:58.55 | joris | Lee__: yep, switch if and of |
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| 15:59.04 | Lee__ | joris: glad my random guess about apache was right :) |
| 15:59.28 | PissedTrixBunny | beardy, I do my configurations in text mode... but this will be my last week... so my bosses are scared... they want gui |
| 15:59.29 | berzerka | any comments on GNUS as mail/newsreader? worth a shot? |
| 15:59.34 | joris | Lee__: btw, you can combine this with ssh pipes for full networked disk imaging |
| 15:59.58 | Lee__ | PissedTrixBunny: your bosses probably won't have a easier time "with GUI". |
| 16:00.04 | Lee__ | joris: OMG! that's awesome! |
| 16:00.09 | joris | Lee__: let me demonstrate |
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| 16:00.35 | davis | hello |
| 16:00.38 | Gnea | sup guys |
| 16:00.44 | Gnea | <- @ LWE debian booth |
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| 16:01.07 | davis | i'm terribly confused. |
| 16:01.12 | libra102 | hello |
| 16:01.13 | joris | Lee__: try something like this: dd if=/dev/hda |ssh user@somehost "split -b 700m - diskimage- " |
| 16:01.24 | davis | i have put some commands into my in .xsession file, |
| 16:01.27 | Gnea | WORD |
| 16:01.38 | beardy | LWE? |
| 16:01.40 | Lee__ | joris: what's the split for? |
| 16:01.40 | davis | chose blackbox as my window manager in gdm |
| 16:01.45 | joris | Lee__: this splits it out in neat 700MB portions, use "cat > entire_disk.img" instead of the splitcommand for other effects |
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| 16:02.06 | Gnea | beardy: Linux World Expo |
| 16:02.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 16:02.07 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> Meet Gnea and dondelelcaro at LWE SF (Booth #2037) | GETTING DEBIAN? /msg dpkg install debian | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | BTS: /msg dpkg bts | gcc/g++ 4.0 with new ABI in sid; beware breakage! | OH NO X.org! Beware breakage! | USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Java -> /msg dpkg java | kde 3.4 -> /msg dpkg kde3.4 | NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 16:02.07 | joris | Lee__: dd if=/dev/hda |ssh user@somehost "cat > fulldisk.img" |
| 16:02.10 | davis | but the commands are not executed and my .xsession-errors file is not reporting anhy errors. |
| 16:02.14 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 16:02.26 | dondelelcaro | diff: added who is at LWE to the topic (Gnea and me) |
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| 16:02.30 | beardy | Gnea: oh |
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| 16:02.32 | Lee__ | joris: ha! my co-worker was getting all up in my face about Norton Ghost this morning! |
| 16:02.45 | joris | Lee__: fear the unix pipe! :) |
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| 16:03.03 | Gnea | beardy: same, i gotta hookup my new isp |
| 16:03.05 | PuGz | hey guys... is it difficult to get atheros madwifi support in debian? |
| 16:03.05 | joris | Lee__: depending on your needs, you can also put bzip2 --best in between or something |
| 16:03.14 | PuGz | i am thinking of switching across |
| 16:03.32 | Lee__ | joris: I know about the compression. I was planning on that. that's not hard to add to the pipe. |
| 16:03.39 | Gnea | PuGz: not at all, is that an amd64? |
| 16:03.54 | joris | Lee__: nop, not at all :) |
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| 16:04.19 | PuGz | Gnea: no... pentium M laptop: thinkpad T42p |
| 16:04.20 | kneet | Heh - aptitude gets _really_ upset if you run out of space on /var :) |
| 16:04.29 | joris | Lee__: btw, you can use tar in the same way (use "tar -cf - /path" instead of the dd part) |
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| 16:04.41 | Gnea | PuGz: ok should be alright, did you go to the website yet? |
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| 16:04.51 | PuGz | Gnea: the debian one? |
| 16:04.59 | PuGz | i have used deb b4... |
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| 16:05.04 | PuGz | just not on this laptop |
| 16:05.05 | Lee__ | joris: so it won't be bad to write out a partition table from an image made on a disk of a different size than the target? |
| 16:05.17 | doub | Lee__: one thing you can also do to help compression is writing zeroes (or whatever char suits you fine, anyway), to a file that would cover the unused space of your partitions, and then delete it, so that all those empty spaces can be made quite null on the compressed one |
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| 16:06.07 | joris | Lee__: I'm not sure, in theory it should work |
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| 16:06.07 | goccia | Lee__: it works |
| 16:06.07 | beardy | Lee__: As long as it's not smaller, it should work.. :) |
| 16:06.07 | goccia | must be bigger |
| 16:06.07 | Lee__ | interesting. very cool. |
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| 16:06.07 | Zaki | hi all |
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| 16:06.11 | joris | Lee__: got to go now - just make sure you test the image before destroying the original |
| 16:06.16 | Lee__ | thanks all, you are rad! |
| 16:06.22 | Edude03 | hey everyone |
| 16:06.25 | PuGz | Gnea: is it supported in the main installation for sarge? |
| 16:06.27 | Zaki | can you please check website and see if it's working with you? http://www.mazadmaktoob.com/cgi-bin/mdb/auction.pl?a&item_id=2062925&c=all |
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| 16:06.44 | stew | PuGz: /msg dpkg madwifi-install |
| 16:06.59 | Edude03 | Holy crap there's so many perple in here |
| 16:07.13 | cddesjar | how hard is it to upgrade my memory when running debian? i had heard somewhere that upgrading your memory may cause x to fail? |
| 16:07.22 | sobersabre | greycat, i've just browsed your homepage, and ate my guts - i'm in the middle of the same transition as u were on my webserver, minus harddisk :( |
| 16:07.33 | PuGz | stew: cool! what about ati fglrx support? |
| 16:07.44 | sobersabre | it got ... dead. |
| 16:07.44 | stew | PuGz: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 16:07.52 | PuGz | sweet |
| 16:08.13 | Skrotto | Is udev bad? |
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| 16:08.19 | streuner | yes |
| 16:08.22 | greycat | !8ball is udev bad? |
| 16:08.23 | dpkg | Yes. |
| 16:08.25 | streuner | udev is crap |
| 16:08.25 | Skrotto | hehe |
| 16:08.27 | Skrotto | why? |
| 16:08.37 | beardy | cddesjar: Wherever you heard that, it's probably wrong.. If you by "upgrade memory" mean putting in more RAM, X would only be happy about that. |
| 16:08.37 | Gnea | PuGz: try this one if that doesn't work: http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi |
| 16:08.38 | greycat | !why |
| 16:08.39 | dpkg | Because! |
| 16:08.39 | streuner | because we have many issues here |
| 16:08.40 | dmbiiii | el mariachi ? |
| 16:08.40 | doub | cddesjar: sounds like a pretty unlikely situation, except if you have some kind of badly designed drivers. just plug your new RAM in and see, chances are you won't notice any problem |
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| 16:08.55 | Edude03 | Now that im here, does anyone know how to package a debian distro as in if you make one and you have everything perfect how do you get it back on a CD so it can be insstalled on other systems |
| 16:09.00 | cddesjar | sweet...yeah i'm talking about RAM |
| 16:09.07 | Skrotto | greycat: best answer I've gotten all week.. about anything really ;) |
| 16:09.14 | cddesjar | also i am thinking of getting an external harddrive that i can plug into my usb port |
| 16:09.37 | Zaki | greycat, what was the answer why udev is bad?! |
| 16:09.38 | cddesjar | will debian recognize this like a regular usb device specified in /etc/fstab? |
| 16:09.47 | greycat | 12:08 greycat> !why |
| 16:09.47 | greycat | 12:08 dpkg> Because! |
| 16:09.51 | streuner | Skrotto: things should just work, if you have only have problems its not software which you can use |
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| 16:10.21 | aalex | Q: how can I easily add apt sources ? |
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| 16:10.27 | Skrotto | streuner: Problems with udev? I don't have any, as I'm aware of anyway :> |
| 16:10.33 | greycat | A: apt-setup |
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| 16:10.41 | stew | aalex: apt-setup ; editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:10.41 | doub | cddesjar: usb devices have variable names, depending on the order you insert them in, so it's generally not a good idea to have them in fstab |
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| 16:11.08 | aalex | thanks |
| 16:11.11 | doub | cddesjar: but i heard of pmount which would help with removable usb devices. never tried though |
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| 16:11.32 | aalex | apt-setup: command not found |
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| 16:11.38 | streuner | !find apt-setup |
| 16:11.39 | Edude03 | No one Knows? I figured some one here had to have done something similar in here |
| 16:11.48 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'apt-setup' (2): (/usr/sbin/apt-setup, /usr/lib/base-config/menu/{apt-setup|apt-setup.mnu}) in base/base-config ;; (/usr/share/debian-cd/data/woody/apt-setup.html.in, /usr/share/debian-cd/data/potato/apt-setup.html.in) in admin/debian-cd. |
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| 16:12.01 | davis | could someone please help me figure out how to get my .xsession to work? |
| 16:12.05 | streuner | aalex: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 16:12.08 | greycat | type "startx" |
| 16:12.13 | greycat | instead of using [gk]dm |
| 16:12.21 | dmbiiii | p |
| 16:12.23 | doub | aalex: you should use this command as root |
| 16:12.25 | davis | greycat: ok. i'll try that |
| 16:12.32 | aalex | must be it, doub |
| 16:12.37 | cddesjar | doub: is pmount a program? or a command? |
| 16:12.46 | doub | cddesjar: i guess both |
| 16:13.01 | aalex | chroot gives access only to sudoers to certain stuff ? is that it ? |
| 16:13.02 | cddesjar | doub: i've always mounted device according to /etc/fstab for usb devices i didn't know there was another way |
| 16:13.03 | greycat | all commands are programs |
| 16:13.03 | streuner | its NOT normal that you haven't base-config installed... |
| 16:13.12 | coreyo | has anyone had any luck getting suspend-to-ram/sleep to work with an SATA hard drive? |
| 16:13.19 | greycat | even "alias foo='echo foo'" is a program. a very short one, but still a program. |
| 16:13.30 | davis | greycat: hmm. startx works. |
| 16:13.32 | doub | streuner: base-config can be safely removed after install, IIRC |
| 16:13.43 | greycat | davis: welcome to the fucktarded world of GNOME and/or KDE! |
| 16:13.44 | Lee__ | but are all programs applications? |
| 16:13.49 | streuner | doub: sure, but who usually do this? ;-) |
| 16:13.52 | cddesjar | doub: i only have two spots for a usb device...i have a dell inspiron 1100...thus the necessity to upgrade RAM and disc space |
| 16:13.54 | davis | greycat: when I use gdm, i select blackbox session. |
| 16:13.58 | browm | is it possible to connect several vlan through adsl with single ip using NAT? |
| 16:14.01 | beardy | Edude03: Not usre what you mean, but if you want the exact same system and configuration, the hardware of the other machine have to be exactly the same. If you want the same packages installed on more boxes, save the package selection list and use it to install on the other box, and copy it's /etc perhaps. dpkg's manpage tells you how to save the packageselections, I don't remember the option exactly. |
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| 16:14.16 | greycat | davis: gdm is made by aliens. intent on conquering earth. by making people kill themselves. |
| 16:14.22 | browm | is it possible to connect several vlan through adsl with single ip using NAT?? |
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| 16:14.28 | aalex | but, if i want many sources, i would be better to edit the file manually, i guess |
| 16:14.28 | davis | greycat: lol. |
| 16:14.31 | Lee__ | greycat++ |
| 16:14.42 | streuner | aalex: answer my question |
| 16:14.43 | doub | streuner: well, maybe santa claus |
| 16:14.46 | cmatheson | hi guys, i can connect to my sql server if i type 'mysql -h localhost -u mailadmin -p', not not if i type 'mysql -h 127.0.0.1 -u mailadmin -p'... how can i fix that? |
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| 16:14.53 | streuner | doub: maybe :-) |
| 16:14.59 | Edude03 | query beardy |
| 16:15.05 | Edude03 | what the hell |
| 16:15.08 | aalex | streuner : it works as a root |
| 16:15.13 | Lee__ | I run Gnome so when people look at my laptop screen and ask me what I'm running on it and I say Linux, they don't get scared and are all like "oh, I thought Linux was hard". |
| 16:15.14 | streuner | ok |
| 16:15.16 | s_ward | cmatheson, sounds like mysql is not listening on TCP |
| 16:15.29 | doub | streuner: i'll ask him next time we'll meet |
| 16:15.33 | beardy | Edude03: Don't try. |
| 16:15.36 | cmatheson | s_ward: hmm, let me check that out |
| 16:15.43 | streuner | doub: heh? :-) |
| 16:15.48 | Lee__ | but vesafb + gpm + screen is the best window manager ever! |
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| 16:15.55 | beardy | Edude03: Please don't msg me. |
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| 16:16.11 | streuner | doub: ah ok :-) |
| 16:16.12 | s_ward | cmatheson, sorry, might be wrong, I didn't see localhost in the first |
| 16:16.18 | cmatheson | bind-address = 127.0.0.1,204.110.225.254 |
| 16:16.22 | cmatheson | s_ward: oh ok |
| 16:16.26 | cmatheson | s_ward: thanks though |
| 16:16.34 | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 | yo all |
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| 16:16.48 | fseek | hello |
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| 16:17.41 | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 | i need yo workout my key mapping... any advice |
| 16:18.01 | aalex | Sould I add more sources for specific stuff ? (i like java and php) |
| 16:18.06 | doub | Lee__: except that vesafb doesn't quite work everywhere |
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| 16:18.46 | doub | aalex: you have very strange tastes ;) |
| 16:18.55 | fseek | aalex, for java you need java-package and the binary from java.sun.com |
| 16:19.27 | aalex | fseek : both ? what about kaffe ? |
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| 16:19.49 | fseek | aalex, never used |
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| 16:20.01 | doub | aalex: kaffe is in main, so no need to add anything |
| 16:20.02 | aalex | java-package : package not found |
| 16:20.18 | PoPnow | is there anyway to make if someone access a webserver with https:// that the apache2 redirect it to another server? |
| 16:20.23 | stew | aalex: you need to add contrib sources |
| 16:20.35 | aalex | doub : need to add some source for ... which ? |
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| 16:21.07 | doub | aalex: java-package provides you with a nice .deb package out of the sun or blackdown java installers, it's not for OSS JVMs |
| 16:21.11 | greycat | PoPnow: ask #apache |
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| 16:21.43 | uid0 | everytime I try to install a package from apt-get or something, I get error mesgs. |
| 16:21.51 | uid0 | but its like 5 or 6 lines and I don't want to scroll |
| 16:21.58 | uid0 | can I PM someone who could help me with the merror msgs? |
| 16:22.03 | s_ward | !tell uid0 about paster |
| 16:22.04 | greycat | just paste the ONE line that is actually important. |
| 16:22.11 | greycat | (or use a web site, as suggested) |
| 16:22.13 | stew | PoPnow: yes, but their browsers would hopefully warn them that you are doing something wrong |
| 16:22.15 | uid0 | well theyre all important |
| 16:22.18 | uid0 | cause theyre missing files |
| 16:22.23 | uid0 | alright ill do that, one sec |
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| 16:22.51 | doub | greycat: knowing which line is important requires you to understand the message, which would be redundant |
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| 16:23.08 | aalex | doub : OXX JVMs ? |
| 16:23.13 | aalex | OSS, i mean |
| 16:23.18 | prock | which package do I need to install to get my computer to give me everlasting satisfaction? |
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| 16:23.32 | streuner | prock: NOT pr0n-get |
| 16:23.39 | aalex | prock, x-window-core ? |
| 16:23.49 | doub | aalex: Open Source Software - Java Virtual Machine |
| 16:24.16 | aalex | doub : right. so it is contrib and non-free. i get it |
| 16:24.20 | doub | aalex: java-package takes proprietary JVM packages and turns them into a .deb package |
| 16:24.28 | doub | aalex: i guess so, yes |
| 16:24.44 | PoPnow | stew: the thing is when users on the lan access the http they should connect to one server while https to another.. if you are on the internet I can redirect that in the firewall, but not inside |
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| 16:24.47 | prock | you see I try... and I try... and I try... and I try... |
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| 16:24.59 | greycat | !porn-get |
| 16:24.59 | dpkg | methinks porn-get is at http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ |
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| 16:25.02 | doub | aalex: but kaffe is free, AFAIK, so is in main already, and doesn't require re-packaging as it's OSS |
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| 16:25.08 | streuner | greycat: :-) |
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| 16:25.52 | samuel | sup all |
| 16:25.54 | uid0 | k, heres the error |
| 16:25.55 | samuel | whenever |
| 16:26.00 | uid0 | http://root.pyrogeek.net/deb_err.txt |
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| 16:26.04 | stew | PoPnow: can you change the internal dns? |
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| 16:26.09 | doub | aalex: the downside being that kaffe is not yet fully compatible with the official JVM |
| 16:26.39 | stew | and kaffe (nor any other oss jvm) doens't provide a browser plugin |
| 16:26.41 | greycat | id -u, or $UID in bash |
| 16:26.53 | prock | Loevborg: `whoami` |
| 16:26.58 | greycat | also $EUID |
| 16:27.08 | greycat | whoami(1) is lame. |
| 16:27.12 | PoPnow | stew: it's same webadress, the only thing I want to be different is if someone is using http or https.. |
| 16:27.12 | doub | prock: whoami is easily misled |
| 16:27.27 | greycat | even the man page says "same as id -un" |
| 16:27.38 | aalex | i see doub, so java is not quite ok with debian |
| 16:27.50 | fseek | mh? |
| 16:27.52 | stew | PoPnow: ask #apache |
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| 16:27.55 | Loevborg | greycat, ok it was a case of bad idociy of mine (I tried sudo echo $UID) :)) |
| 16:28.00 | greycat | Loevborg: heh |
| 16:28.08 | fseek | how to draw the wrong conclusion from strait facts :) |
| 16:28.18 | greycat | fseek: requires no special skill. |
| 16:28.19 | prock | maybe lame, but it's an intuitive command |
| 16:28.36 | s_ward | uid0, what's the output of 'echo $PATH'? |
| 16:28.38 | greycat | prock: is not. "id" is more intuitive, and doesn't require reverse-mapping the names back to numbers. |
| 16:28.40 | stew | aalex: its the other way around, debian os not quite ok with java, debian is comprised solely of free software |
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| 16:28.52 | aalex | right |
| 16:28.53 | doub | aalex: the sun JVM is not free, you can install it separately, that's what java-package is for. but debian main only provide OSS JVMs, that are not yet fully compatible. that's because of Sun licence restrictions, i guess |
| 16:29.18 | CruX | how can i run command as user when i'm root ? i can't use sudo |
| 16:29.28 | stew | doub: not becuase of the license so much as there is just so much to implement |
| 16:29.31 | prock | greycat: I simply mean that I never had to read a man page or ask anybody how to figure out which user I'm logged in as... I just intuitively guessed 'whoami' would tell me. |
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| 16:30.15 | uid0 | s_ward: /usr/local/bin, /usr/games, /usr/bin, /bin, /usr/bin/X11 |
| 16:30.33 | psychonate | CruX, er, are you root for *that* long that you need to do that? |
| 16:30.44 | doub | stew: of course, but i heard there were restrictions like, a OSS JVM developper can't even read the java API docs |
| 16:30.57 | greycat | prock: no, you did not. you saw it used somewhere. |
| 16:30.58 | samuel | whenever i try to restart the hotplug service it stalls in the usb part, ive searched the web but found nothing usefull... any ideas please? usb devices dont seem to work any longer except for the mouse???!!!??? i dont get why??? |
| 16:31.07 | beardy | CruX: su username, but why do you have to do that? |
| 16:31.11 | doub | stew: that has changed recently as the apache foundation is now developing a JVM with Sun's blessing |
| 16:31.12 | CruX | psychonate: i wanna run jackd as specified user from initscripts |
| 16:31.15 | prock | greycat: ok whatever |
| 16:31.19 | rking | In my firefox font preferences, I see "Sans Serif: [ sans-serif ]" but when i "locate sans-serif", i get nothing - how do i find out what font Firefox gets when a site does style="font-family: sans-serif" (because the font that it is using is kind of busted in some situations) |
| 16:31.20 | greycat | nobody would sit in front of a unix box for the first time and think "Hey, let's type ``whoami'' all one word no spaces!" |
| 16:31.26 | CruX | beardy: i wanna run jackd as specified user from initscripts |
| 16:31.36 | RichiH | greycat: heh |
| 16:31.38 | rking | greycat: "who am i" also works |
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| 16:31.45 | greycat | rking: yes, *that* one might be intuited. |
| 16:31.51 | s_ward | uid0, take note of the error message, you need those directories in PATH |
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| 16:32.05 | RichiH | rking: does not on this box, at least |
| 16:32.13 | greycat | especially since, in the GNU version of who(1) at least, you can capitalize the I |
| 16:32.14 | doub | rking: or even "who mum likes" or "who" followed by two non-option words |
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| 16:32.37 | uid0 | do I remove the ones it has, or I just add them? |
| 16:32.39 | rking | RichiH: it comes from the coreutils package |
| 16:32.44 | greycat | of course, who(1) is pretty useless in real life, but at least it's cute. |
| 16:32.49 | rking | right |
| 16:33.26 | masoft | after install the webmin-squid module, the squid doesn't allow persons to use Squid !!! the first http_access is : http_access allow all ! I get TCP_DENIED in LOG ... what can I do ? |
| 16:33.29 | RichiH | rking: `who` works, `who am i` does not. on debian sid, at least. and yes, i have coreutils installed ;) |
| 16:33.33 | RichiH | brb, food |
| 16:33.40 | greycat | webmin? |
| 16:33.43 | stew | doub: on the contrary, in the license in the api documentation explicitly gives you the right to read the api documentation for the purpose of creating an independent implementation |
| 16:33.47 | greycat | !pal masoft |
| 16:33.51 | s_ward | uid0, add them, it should be a colon separated list |
| 16:34.09 | uid0 | so I jsut do $PATH = /dir/dir; /dir/dir ? |
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| 16:34.47 | prock | ironically 'who are you?' tells me that you are me. |
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| 16:35.03 | greycat | uid0: no. |
| 16:35.11 | greycat | that syntax is VERY wrong. |
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| 16:35.19 | masoft | greycat, the persons that laughs for nothing, mostly are crazy :P |
| 16:35.30 | greycat | masoft: I laughed because you use webmin |
| 16:35.38 | asg | masoft: people who laugh at webmin are not crazy |
| 16:35.38 | s_ward | uid0, see the section PARAMETERS in 'man bash', and also look for PATH |
| 16:35.44 | doub | prock: as any "who [a-zA-Z] [a-zA-Z]" combination would |
| 16:35.51 | greycat | s_ward: he's going to need more than a man page, I suspect. |
| 16:36.05 | greycat | uid0: the /topic of #bash has lots of tutorials |
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| 16:36.18 | masoft | greycat, I installed because of my job ! my company wanted to write modules for webmin ... |
| 16:36.31 | rking | uid0: you should save that line for reference - as a complete anti-example. each and every piece of that is messed up. =) there shouldn't be a $ before the first PATH, there should be no spaces around the equals or after the :, and you probably should put :$PATH at the end of it all |
| 16:36.39 | greycat | masoft: then get your company to teach you how to use it. |
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| 16:36.48 | stew | rking: the "PATH" part was correct |
| 16:37.15 | masoft | greycat, my question was about Squid ! if you can't answer, why do you waste my time ?! |
| 16:37.29 | greycat | rking: don't forget : instead of ; |
| 16:37.34 | rking | stew: eehhh... that's dubious, considering that the "PATH part" had a $ stuck to it |
| 16:37.54 | rking | greycat: whoa! i didn't notice that! uid0++ |
| 16:37.55 | uid0 | ok, but do I need to put $PATH = /dirs like a normal variable declaration |
| 16:38.02 | greycat | uid0: NO! |
| 16:38.02 | uid0 | or is it another syntax, |
| 16:38.11 | greycat | uid0: read the /topic of #bash before you hurt yourself. |
| 16:38.14 | cddesjar | err...i have done a google search of pmount and i am not sure how it works. say for example, i place a usb storage device in my usb port and there is no corresponding information in /etc/fstab...how would i use pmount? |
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| 16:38.22 | greycat | there's NOTHING normal about what you just typed. |
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| 16:38.27 | doub | masoft: this channel is not a place for corporate support, if you're unhappy with the way people talk to you, go pay for support |
| 16:38.32 | Grost | anybody knowing, how to activate TSO Support for TG3 NICs ? |
| 16:38.35 | FieldySnuts | ~win doub |
| 16:38.35 | apt | Congratulations, doub! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 16:38.46 | Grost | anybody knowing, how to activate TSO Support for TG3 NICs in 2.6.12 Kernels ? |
| 16:38.47 | FieldySnuts | modinfo tg3? might provide some flags |
| 16:38.51 | FieldySnuts | we saw it hte first time |
| 16:39.04 | FieldySnuts | assuming you're using a module |
| 16:39.11 | Grost | FieldySnuts I m using monolith kernel |
| 16:39.15 | uid0 | so hwo would it be telling it those directories are for PATH |
| 16:39.18 | greycat | 12:39 #squid 20 Squid proxy server | http://www.squid-cache.org | FAQ: |
| 16:39.19 | greycat | 12:39 #webmin 1 |
| 16:39.23 | FieldySnuts | ah. no idea then |
| 16:39.29 | masoft | doub, my company doesn't pay me for squid ! if you are not here to ask your question or help another persons, you are just trying to ... !!!! |
| 16:39.29 | stew | doub: what are you claiming to be corporate? webmin or squid? |
| 16:39.33 | greycat | !wikifaq uid0 DotFiles |
| 16:39.33 | dpkg | uid0: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 16:39.45 | uid0 | mkay |
| 16:39.58 | psychonate | Is j2se 5.0 = j2se 1.5? |
| 16:40.03 | stew | psychonate: yes |
| 16:40.04 | asg | yes |
| 16:40.04 | Ungy | wonders how long masoft will last in channel |
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| 16:40.12 | greycat | seriously, you NEED to see some real live examples of what shell code looks like. the pseudo-perl you're spewing is GOING to break something. |
| 16:40.29 | psychonate | man, why does Sun always do that :( |
| 16:40.36 | psychonate | isn't Solaris the same way |
| 16:40.39 | asg | psychonate: most companies do that |
| 16:40.46 | psychonate | er, really? |
| 16:40.50 | doub | stew: people requiring corporate support (a lean and straight answer in a timely fashion, with the shiny little flowers added for free) |
| 16:40.52 | Ungy | yeah |
| 16:40.55 | psychonate | I've only noticed that with Sun. |
| 16:40.58 | asg | psychonate: windows 3.1 -> 95 |
| 16:41.05 | stew | doub: huh? |
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| 16:41.18 | Ungy | asg 3.1 was way mor epowerful then 95 how dare you rag on 3.1 |
| 16:41.25 | saloxin_ | any tips for software raid? the machine here does software raid in proprietary module, so i'd rather skip it. goal: to be able to replace 1 disk while running. raid1 + lvm? |
| 16:41.41 | stew | masoft: have you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/squid? specifically it sounds like you are looking for docs on ACLs |
| 16:41.41 | rking | how does firefox map "sans-serif" to a hard, on-disk font? does it talk to xfs or something? |
| 16:41.45 | asg | Ungy: I'm not, I'm saying that the name changed from 3.1 to 95 to provide an example for psychonate |
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| 16:42.11 | psychonate | asg, er, that's a bit different |
| 16:42.15 | Ungy | ahh ok I thought you were ripping on my beloved 3.1 |
| 16:42.19 | doub | stew: that's not the software i'm about, but people coming here with their professional habits, and who wish everyone should do the same |
| 16:42.24 | masoft | stew, all the ACLs are ok ! also the first http_access is : http_access allow all ! so it must to provide service for all ... |
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| 16:42.39 | psychonate | asg, I'm talking about dropping the first number from the version |
| 16:42.39 | doub | stew: if you want a corporate level of speaking, just pay for it |
| 16:42.48 | psychonate | asg, 1.5 > 5 |
| 16:43.08 | asg | psychonate: sun didn't, marketing though 5 was larger and therefore would sell to the drooling masses. |
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| 16:43.15 | rking | i already asked irc.mozilla.net/#firefox about the font thing, and basically got the answer that the mapping is "a unix thing" (no unix users were active at that moment, or at least none were interested) |
| 16:43.18 | s_ward | psychonate, emacs |
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| 16:43.35 | stew | doub: the question he askes was not in any way out of line. He wasn't at all demending |
| 16:43.49 | doub | stew: i'm not saying "professional" as in "knowing what one does" but rather "respect the deadline, talk with manners" |
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| 16:44.32 | deepak | hi |
| 16:44.34 | s_ward | psychonate, I seem to recall they had a 0 or 1 in front of the version number, and eventually dropped it |
| 16:44.43 | doub | stew: of course. but he did say we're wasting his [precious] time ([] added by me) |
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| 16:45.02 | fseek | Grost: don't know if it works, did you try ethtool -K eth. tso on|off |
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| 16:45.58 | deepak | can any body tell me that y debian is callled Hacker Linux |
| 16:46.02 | doub | stew: and there's no time to be wasted anywhere but in corporate environments. go f*** them all |
| 16:46.04 | deepak | can any body tell me that y debian is callled Hacker Linux |
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| 16:46.16 | Form | deepak: it is? |
| 16:46.18 | Form | that's new to me |
| 16:46.22 | Form | ;) |
| 16:46.27 | stew | doub: he asked a simple question and the response was for someone to use the bot to ridicule him, which wasn't entirely fair. and he didn't say that you were wasting his time, he said that the person ridiculing him wasn't helpful, and I agree. If you don't wish to help him, please just /ignore him |
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| 16:46.57 | doub | stew: that's ok |
| 16:47.18 | rking | deepak: here's my understanding: back in the day it had the cruftiest install process out of the big names, and fewer gui tools for system management (everyone just used the command-line dpkg/apt-get and curses-based dselect) |
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| 16:47.40 | asg | rking: some of us still do that |
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| 16:48.00 | rking | deepak: on the positive side of the "hacker linux" image is that it's always been the distro that made me feel most powerful |
| 16:48.16 | deepak | ok now i unsderstand ,, |
| 16:48.28 | doub | stew: i just had a couple of bad experiences with professional level support requirements from some people in here, so i get started pretty fast on this. sort of like the "ubuntu is debian" effect |
| 16:48.47 | deepak | no i love debain alot and i am doing Debian from last two and half yaer ,, |
| 16:48.54 | masoft | stew, thx, you tried to help instead of things what greycat and doub told ! it was because of : httpd_accel_host virtual ! I removed it and everything is now OK ;) |
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| 16:49.46 | pngwn | !thx |
| 16:49.46 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 16:49.50 | pngwn | ;) |
| 16:49.58 | MasterYoda | yup, just got kicked from ##freebsd... |
| 16:50.11 | MasterYoda | first #fedora and now ##freebsd... |
| 16:50.24 | MasterYoda | not my fault their OSes suck more than debian... |
| 16:50.43 | deepak | aand any gud hacking side where i can ragister and learn form other people . |
| 16:50.43 | MasterYoda | I am used to my crap working... |
| 16:50.57 | uid0 | it keeps telling me not a valid identifier when i tried 'setenv PATH "/dir/dir2/dir2:/dir1/dir2:/dir1" |
| 16:51.04 | uid0 | and export PATH ...etc |
| 16:51.04 | MasterYoda | deepak: hackthissite.org |
| 16:51.16 | MasterYoda | deepak: and this is the wrong place to ask that |
| 16:51.17 | deepak | ok MansteYoda |
| 16:51.18 | stew | uid0: what shell do you use? |
| 16:51.23 | deepak | ok sorry |
| 16:51.32 | uid0 | i duno |
| 16:51.36 | deepak | thanks |
| 16:51.37 | masoft | deepak, hack or crack ? |
| 16:51.39 | doub | MasterYoda: the fact that *you* get kicked doesn't have anything to do with whichever sucks more or less, or did i miss something? |
| 16:51.58 | MasterYoda | doub: oh... it does... |
| 16:51.59 | uid0 | how do I find out |
| 16:52.14 | fseek | bye :) |
| 16:52.16 | MasterYoda | doub: but before I explain this concept to you, what os do you primarily use? |
| 16:52.44 | psychonate | Does make-jpkg need to be run as root? |
| 16:52.45 | deepak | masoft hack ,, |
| 16:52.47 | s_ward | psychonate, I might be wrong, a search suggests otherwise, saying 15.34 was the first widely distributed version of GNU Emacs |
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| 16:53.01 | stew | uid0: if you didn't do anything specific to change it you use bash. and setenv is not a bash function, its a csh function |
| 16:53.12 | greycat | command. |
| 16:53.13 | uid0 | oh |
| 16:53.18 | uid0 | so what would it be |
| 16:53.19 | masoft | deepak, ok, hacking what ? hacking kernel ? hacking ... ? |
| 16:53.21 | uid0 | i tried export too |
| 16:53.22 | stew | psychonate: no run it with fakeroot |
| 16:53.23 | doub | MasterYoda: that doesn't really matter, at least to me. i use debian most often, but that's just out of ignorance, maybe those you talk about can be as valuable |
| 16:53.28 | greycat | uid0: READ THE TOPIC OF #BASH. |
| 16:53.31 | masoft | deepak, Network ? |
| 16:53.36 | greycat | uid0: read the tutorials listed therein. Or get a Unix book. |
| 16:53.37 | uid0 | greycat |
| 16:53.38 | psychonate | stew, fakeroot? I just ran it as a normal user. |
| 16:53.39 | uid0 | wtf you think i did |
| 16:53.43 | beardy | masoft: I doubt he know the difference. |
| 16:53.52 | deepak | yes masoft |
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| 16:53.57 | psychonate | stew, it made the package alright... it looks like |
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| 16:54.10 | greycat | uid0: whatever you did, it wasn't right. |
| 16:54.18 | uid0 | im not gona buy a unix book to fix one stupid problem |
| 16:54.19 | deepak | beadry i knoe the diff |
| 16:54.22 | doub | greycat: so spoke the master |
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| 16:54.37 | MasterYoda | doub: hah, I have used debian, fedora, gentoo, redhat, suse, ubuntu, and now freebsd, and debian (and ubuntu for that matter) is by far the best |
| 16:54.44 | ma3x | hey |
| 16:54.45 | ma3x | why is my modem so slow in debian? |
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| 16:54.52 | ma3x | is there something like compression that i need to enable or what? |
| 16:54.53 | stew | psychonate: ok. if it complained about needing root priveleges then you should run it with fakeroot not as root, thats all |
| 16:55.00 | ma3x | stew: anyway, got it working |
| 16:55.00 | greycat | just for grins. let's google for export PATH |
| 16:55.01 | MasterYoda | doub: easiest to use, most functional, works best, makes sense |
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| 16:55.05 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.05 | ma3x | you know what was the deal? |
| 16:55.07 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.15 | greycat | those are the first two google hits. |
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| 16:55.21 | MasterYoda | any way, I am through venting I have work to do |
| 16:55.24 | masoft | deepak, it's a little hard to learn hacking network from another persons from base ... and if you know the bases, so of course you can continue learning ;) |
| 16:55.26 | doub | MasterYoda: i guess it fits your needs better than any other one, but that doesn't mean others don't have different needs and thus answers |
| 16:55.27 | uid0 | greycat |
| 16:55.32 | uid0 | if you're going to be sarcastic and immature |
| 16:55.37 | uid0 | then don't even weaste your time dude |
| 16:55.37 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 16:55.39 | ma3x | MasterYoda, did you watch starwars? |
| 16:55.40 | bassembg | hi room |
| 16:55.43 | psychonate | stew, well, I actually did get some permission denied errors? Should I use 'fakeroot make-jpkg <java installer>' then? |
| 16:55.45 | ma3x | hi bassembg |
| 16:55.45 | greycat | no problem. I won't. |
| 16:55.52 | MasterYoda | doub: the thing about it is, it fits all my needs, from the desktop to the server and in between |
| 16:56.00 | MasterYoda | ma3x: yeah... |
| 16:56.02 | uid0 | all this bullshit ass time you been makin fun of me you couldve jsut explained what would be the command and saved both our time |
| 16:56.14 | ma3x | MasterYoda, are you that little dwarf? |
| 16:56.14 | bassembg | i'm trying to install some stuff but port 80 is closed so what to do |
| 16:56.19 | doub | MasterYoda: well, don't tell me more, we're in a public place ;) |
| 16:56.23 | MasterYoda | ma3x: yeah what about it? |
| 16:56.34 | Form | bassembg: can you use FTP? |
| 16:56.35 | MasterYoda | doub: fine by me :) |
| 16:56.41 | stew | psychonate: iirc some permission denied errors are expected, check the bts for java-package |
| 16:56.43 | ma3x | MasterYoda, you're very smart |
| 16:56.44 | bassembg | ya |
| 16:56.45 | greycat | bassembg: define "closed", and explain what you're trying to do, and how this "closure" affects it. |
| 16:56.54 | MasterYoda | ma3x: why thanks... |
| 16:56.56 | psychonate | stew, er, bts? |
| 16:57.02 | stew | psychonate: /msg dpkg bts |
| 16:57.06 | Form | bassembg: try editing /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:57.41 | Form | bassembg: maybe your mirror supports just changing http:// to ftp://, otherwise look up a mirror |
| 16:58.01 | greycat | I love how Form just assumes that bassembg has even a fraction of a Clue. |
| 16:58.08 | greycat | such optimism. |
| 16:58.09 | kneet | Is libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 available ? |
| 16:58.12 | bassembg | the proxy i'm behind is closing port 80 |
| 16:58.13 | Form | greycat: worth a shot |
| 16:58.14 | ma3x | hey stew is there such a thing as modem compression in linux? |
| 16:58.14 | MasterYoda | any way back to work |
| 16:58.15 | greycat | !redhat crap |
| 16:58.15 | dpkg | i guess redhat crap is 'apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1' if you get 'libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file' (get it from woody if you use sarge or sid), or ** NEW redhat crap! If you're missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, it's in woody's libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package (get it from oldstable/woody archives since it's obsolete) |
| 16:58.41 | greycat | bassembg: so the ENTIRE WORLD WIDE WEB is broken for you? you can't reach google or debian.org or microsoft.com? |
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| 16:58.45 | kneet | Heh - not only redhat - the latest (june) sun j2ee lib needs it |
| 16:58.45 | psychonate | stew, would it *hurt* to use fakeroot? |
| 16:58.49 | stew | psychonate: no |
| 16:58.53 | psychonate | excellent |
| 16:58.57 | greycat | kneet: because they built it on a red hat box, no doubt. |
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| 16:59.06 | kneet | greycat, they do tend to assume that yes |
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| 16:59.16 | stew | ma3x: huh? your modem should negotiate compression with the other end in hardware unless you go out of your way to disable it |
| 16:59.27 | stew | ma3x: what kind of speed are you getting? |
| 16:59.44 | Form | bassembg: try running apt-setup as root, btw |
| 16:59.44 | ma3x | stew: 2 KBytes :( |
| 16:59.51 | Form | (is that still installed by default?) |
| 16:59.52 | bassembg | when i use getinstall it couldn't counnect |
| 16:59.52 | bassembg | no i can |
| 16:59.52 | bassembg | but wait |
| 16:59.54 | bassembg | : Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-extras_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 17:00.03 | greycat | jesus fucking christ. |
| 17:00.12 | greycat | !ubuntu |
| 17:00.12 | dpkg | well, ubuntu is a see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 or "Based on Debian" |
| 17:00.18 | stew | bassembg: wrong channel |
| 17:00.50 | stew | ma3x: if the data you are transferring is already in a compressed form, then the modem won't be able to compress it further |
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| 17:01.49 | bassembg | do u think mirrormax has change some files |
| 17:02.21 | Form | I think you need to ask the mirrormax or #ubuntu people for help |
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| 17:02.31 | ma3x | stew, those speed test sites, is their data already compressed? |
| 17:02.47 | beardy | bassembg: This is #debian, you are using ubuntu, please ask the people in #ubuntu isntead. |
| 17:03.10 | bassembg | ok thanks |
| 17:03.24 | bassembg | bye |
| 17:03.58 | psychonate | well, make-jpkg is pretty nice |
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| 17:05.10 | turing | anyone here a debian build master? ;) |
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| 17:05.22 | elPepo | hi friends |
| 17:05.40 | beardy | turing: Lure them out by asking your question :) |
| 17:05.44 | elPepo | I receive this error message from slocate: NTFS-fs error (device hda1): ntfs_ucstonls(): Unicode name contains characters that cannot be converted to character set cp437. |
| 17:05.56 | turing | beardy: checking something before I ask ;) |
| 17:05.57 | elPepo | what do I have to use in fstab to fix that ? |
| 17:06.06 | abrotman | elPepo: don't use locate on your ntfs partition? |
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| 17:07.20 | lars^ | Does anybody know if bitchx support proxy? and if yes how to define it should connect thrue a proxy |
| 17:07.40 | Scorpaen | what package contains dig and/or whois? |
| 17:08.02 | abrotman | !tell Scorpaen about search |
| 17:08.08 | greycat | !dig |
| 17:08.08 | dpkg | dig is, like, part of dnsutils, or use host(1) (in the same package) for less detail, or (informally) ack == ok == right == your beneficent and gracious presence and contributions to this universe are hereby recognized by sundry and all. |
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| 17:08.31 | turing | I am setting up a debian sarge virtual mail hosting box. I need to modify libsasl2 to use courier authdaemond for authentication, which can be done with a cyrus-sasl source download + compile, but I'm wondering if I can use dpkd-buildpackage and friends to create a deb from apt-get source cyrus-sasl ? |
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| 17:09.23 | deepak | can any body knw waht is that error " freeing unused memory 200k" and after my comp dosent process |
| 17:09.27 | jaker_ | Hi |
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| 17:09.56 | abrotman | deepak: any chance you have only 192k of RAM? |
| 17:10.13 | turing | I've hand modified the build rules for a cyrus-sasl source download, but that's an ugly __ugly__ hack |
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| 17:10.17 | deepak | no i have 1GB ram in my comp |
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| 17:10.27 | lan | hi , i have mounted win on mnt and under root i can't copy some files in to my doc file in win ? |
| 17:10.35 | jaker_ | i'm quite new in debian, and i have a problem with dselect, can someone help me? |
| 17:10.42 | abrotman | jaker_: don't use it |
| 17:10.50 | abrotman | jaker_: either use apt-get/dpkg or aptitude |
| 17:10.53 | _sah_ | I am trying to install debian 3.1 on a UltraSparc 10, but the netinst image seems not to work. I googeled a lot but havent found any recent postings. As well, the current netinst iso in testing seems not to work. any help? |
| 17:10.53 | jaker_ | i use also apt |
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| 17:11.02 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 17:11.02 | dpkg | [sparc] the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 17:11.07 | turing | jaker: abrotman is right, use aptitude |
| 17:11.13 | deepak | can any body knw waht is that error " freeing unused memory 200k" and after my comp dosent process |
| 17:11.22 | jaker_ | thank |
| 17:11.24 | jaker_ | s |
| 17:11.28 | turing | apt-get + dpkg works wonderfully |
| 17:11.31 | jaker_ | i try now |
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| 17:11.51 | turing | any build masters around? |
| 17:12.01 | turing | I tried dpkg-reconfigure libsasl2, nada |
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| 17:12.13 | abrotman | #debian-mentors ? |
| 17:12.17 | abrotman | or mentor .. whatever it is |
| 17:12.25 | turing | no shit, that's a channel? |
| 17:12.26 | turing | haha |
| 17:12.30 | turing | cool, going |
| 17:12.31 | lan | i need to chage permision on mnt so that i can copy some files in to windows? |
| 17:12.41 | deepak | can any body knw waht is that error " freeing unused memory 200k" and after my comp dosent process |
| 17:12.47 | xoz | !vfatrw |
| 17:12.47 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS. |
| 17:12.58 | FieldySnuts | gah how do i get ravenbird to forget aussiesmite? tried forget aussiesmite $1 and forget aussiesmite |
| 17:13.08 | mentor | #debian-abrotmans perhaps :) |
| 17:13.09 | mith | deepak: that's not an error, that's the kernel freeing unused memory it had allocated after finishing booting. |
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| 17:13.14 | reebok | apt-problem : Think a power-outage managed to fook up my /var/lib/dpkg/available file. nor do i have a available-old. Can't run apt-get update as it doesn't write the available packages to the file. Can't do apt-get install pakage. Anyone have any ideas? Tried copying from a different comp. but different versions so wouldn't work + feels as if I'm missing something. |
| 17:13.20 | lan | ok sorry but din't under stand |
| 17:13.21 | asg | FieldySnuts: forget cmd: aussiesmite $1 (.*?) |
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| 17:13.38 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: forget cmd: aussiesmite $1 (.*?) |
| 17:13.39 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: i didn't have anything called 'cmd: aussiesmite $1 (.*?)' to forget |
| 17:13.44 | FieldySnuts | no wonder i can never remm..... |
| 17:13.56 | FieldySnuts | ~lart ravenbird |
| 17:13.58 | stew | ravenbird: /ms dpkg available |
| 17:13.58 | ravenbird | i haven't a clue, stew |
| 17:14.03 | stew | huh |
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| 17:14.09 | stew | reebok: /msg dpkg available |
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| 17:14.29 | asg | @forget cmd: aussiesmite (.*?) |
| 17:14.30 | ravenbird | asg: i forgot cmd: aussiesmite (.*?) |
| 17:14.33 | asg | FieldySnuts: have at it |
| 17:14.44 | lan | omg am so lost can some one explain that to me ? |
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| 17:14.58 | FieldySnuts | well why the hell didn't it forget it for me, i tried without $1 |
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| 17:15.03 | FieldySnuts | fookin bots. thanks asg |
| 17:15.19 | stew | lan: you should read the mount and fstab manpages |
| 17:15.23 | reebok | stew thx will try! |
| 17:15.28 | deepak | mith but when i m booting my comp ,,,it stop on this line , and after two or three houre ..no boot process continue.. |
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| 17:15.40 | deepak | mith but when i m booting my comp ,,,it stop on this line , and after two or three houre ..no boot process continue.. |
| 17:15.43 | lan | stew, first time using deb |
| 17:15.53 | FieldySnuts | there, fixed (someone thought they knew better and modified it, hence screwing it) |
| 17:15.54 | stew | lan: welcome |
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| 17:16.16 | lan | i just din't underrstan or even know how am i sopose to do it |
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| 17:16.42 | FieldySnuts | i tried to teach apt the version of that dpkg had, but it tells me to watch my language... |
| 17:16.51 | stew | lan: type "man mount" at a prompt, and "man fstab" |
| 17:16.56 | Phated | :) |
| 17:17.01 | FieldySnuts | hi Phated :) |
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| 17:17.05 | Phated | Hm. I meant to :O. |
| 17:17.10 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite Phated |
| 17:17.11 | riemensc | what chmod is in ls -rwxr-xr-x |
| 17:17.11 | ravenbird | Phated: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 17:17.12 | nagual | hm. i heard there is a script that can convert .dmg to .iso, i cant fidn the name of it, anyone know it by heart? |
| 17:17.14 | tiuzim | hi, what packages should I pass to aptitude install <package_list> to get a mysql server with client interface installed and running? |
| 17:17.16 | FieldySnuts | oh come on!! |
| 17:17.20 | Phated | Eeep. |
| 17:17.35 | riemensc | what chmod nr is -rwxr-xr-x |
| 17:17.36 | FieldySnuts | that better be a coincidence, it was giving me the other possibilities in msg |
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| 17:17.51 | deepak | mith but when i m booting my comp ,,,it stop on this line , and after two or three houre ..no boot process continue.. |
| 17:17.53 | stew | tiuzim: mysql-server mysql-client |
| 17:17.54 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: aussiesmite Phated |
| 17:17.55 | ravenbird | Phated: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 17:17.58 | FieldySnuts | what the hell |
| 17:18.02 | Phated | :| |
| 17:18.04 | asg | !wikifaq riemensc Permissions |
| 17:18.05 | dpkg | riemensc: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:18.07 | tiuzim | stew, thank you |
| 17:18.08 | abrotman | http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/08/technology/personaltech/internet_piracy/index.htm?cnn=yes |
| 17:18.10 | riemensc | yes |
| 17:18.14 | FieldySnuts | it works in msg but not in the channel, and it used to work in the channel... anyway enough channel smitihg |
| 17:18.18 | abrotman | do we need a "stealing wifi" factoid? |
| 17:18.19 | riemensc | -rwxr-xr-x in ls what for a chmod nr |
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| 17:18.21 | FieldySnuts | wow this vncc wssion ois slow |
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| 17:18.44 | mfrisch | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:19.04 | abrotman | mfrisch: it's an article about how in .us .. it could get you in trouble with the law |
| 17:19.32 | deepak | mith but when i m booting my comp ,,,it stop on this line , and after two or three houre ..no boot process continue.. |
| 17:19.33 | mfrisch | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.40 | pose1don | How do i get RSS feeds on my website? |
| 17:19.41 | deepak | mith: but when i m booting my comp ,,,it stop on this line , and after two or three houre ..no boot process continue.. |
| 17:19.47 | abrotman | pose1don: wrong channel |
| 17:19.57 | pose1don | abrotman, suggest a channel then.. |
| 17:20.04 | abrotman | #web ? |
| 17:20.06 | FieldySnuts | ... moron |
| 17:20.10 | abrotman | fuck ifi know .. this certainly isn't it |
| 17:20.15 | abrotman | pose1don: try /list |
| 17:20.32 | mfrisch | pose1don google it |
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| 17:20.35 | FieldySnuts | that's really irritating, join wrong channel, ask what is a good channel for what they are looking for. and you're an arse if you don't know where they should go. |
| 17:20.38 | pose1don | mfrisch, i have. |
| 17:20.46 | abrotman | bullshit |
| 17:20.53 | abrotman | there are plenty of articles |
| 17:20.54 | FieldySnuts | i suggest ignore |
| 17:21.02 | pose1don | i suggest fuck off |
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| 17:21.23 | FieldySnuts | that's the way to get help. have fun. |
| 17:21.35 | pose1don | I wasn't going to get any from you anyway. |
| 17:21.37 | pose1don | :p |
| 17:21.44 | FieldySnuts | i mean the entire channel now |
| 17:21.49 | finn | what would be the name of the first USB-storage-device? sda ? |
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| 17:22.01 | mfrisch | finn yes |
| 17:22.03 | deepak | mith: but when i m booting my comp ,,,it stop on this line , and after two or three houre ..no boot process continue.. |
| 17:22.05 | abrotman | finn: dmesg |
| 17:22.07 | mfrisch | finn or sda1 |
| 17:22.15 | finn | ok, thanks |
| 17:22.15 | FieldySnuts | device not partition |
| 17:22.19 | Grost | anybody knowing, how to activate tso support in Kernel ? |
| 17:22.28 | FieldySnuts | do we get to know what tso is? |
| 17:22.31 | stew | finn: depends on what other (psuedo)scsi devices you have on your system, dmesg | grep sd should tell you |
| 17:23.13 | finn | it worked with sda1 |
| 17:23.44 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: he stopped talking |
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| 17:24.27 | pose1don | abrotman, your a moron. |
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| 17:26.03 | abrotman | pose1don: you're ... idiot |
| 17:26.11 | pose1don | haha |
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| 17:26.16 | FieldySnuts | heh qotd material |
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| 17:26.25 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: yes .. i suppose it is ... |
| 17:26.27 | pose1don | You've just proven that your the idiot by actually rising to this over IRC.. |
| 17:26.28 | deepak | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.28 | pose1don | :/ |
| 17:26.30 | deepak | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.39 | FieldySnuts | ~stfu deepak for repeating |
| 17:26.49 | abrotman | pose1don: i'm an idiot? .. and you can't figure out homonyms? |
| 17:26.49 | FieldySnuts | guess that got removed too huh |
| 17:26.56 | FieldySnuts | funny how nobody notices the mass deletions |
| 17:27.07 | abrotman | i wonder how your babysitter feels about that ... |
| 17:27.11 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 17:27.31 | abrotman | i hope it involves cherries and cream! |
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| 17:27.37 | pusling | what is LWE SF ? |
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| 17:27.40 | jkaufman | hey abrotman :) |
| 17:27.43 | jkaufman | did you get my memo? |
| 17:27.44 | abrotman | jkaufman: hi |
| 17:27.46 | greycat | linux world expo |
| 17:27.47 | abrotman | jkaufman: yep |
| 17:27.48 | asg | pusling: Linuxworld Expo |
| 17:27.51 | abrotman | pusling: linuxworldexpo.com |
| 17:27.52 | jkaufman | alrighty |
| 17:27.59 | FieldySnuts | what's sf? |
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| 17:28.06 | rbochan | heh |
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| 17:28.17 | stew | FieldySnuts: san francisco |
| 17:28.21 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: significant friend! |
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| 17:28.31 | asg | FieldySnuts: can't google for toffee weed |
| 17:28.34 | greycat | speculative fiction |
| 17:28.36 | rbochan | snufalupagous food |
| 17:28.44 | pusling | why didn't somebody give me a plane ticket to SF ? |
| 17:28.45 | pusling | ;) |
| 17:28.45 | abrotman | sick fucks |
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| 17:29.33 | tarvid | i have a modem which responds to ati3 with minicom but does not pick up the phone with ath1 |
| 17:29.58 | asg | tarvid: is the phone line plugged into the modem? |
| 17:29.59 | tarvid | how can you get that close but miss? |
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| 17:30.28 | tarvid | the phone line is plugged in, a phone connected to that line sound the dial tone |
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| 17:30.57 | tarvid | it is an ltmodem |
| 17:31.02 | abrotman | ew |
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| 17:31.10 | asg | tarvid: it's possible the modem is broken. Or some win modem rubbish. |
| 17:31.17 | abrotman | !ltmodem |
| 17:31.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ltmodem is Lucent winmodem drivers: http://heby.de/ltmodem |
| 17:31.18 | tarvid | now now, lots of people have ltmodems |
| 17:31.31 | abrotman | tarvid: lots of people drive Fords too ... |
| 17:31.43 | ledet | lots of people have herpes too |
| 17:31.56 | tarvid | a typical response but this ia a case with the drivers installed and they work well enough to do ati3 in minicom |
| 17:32.00 | abrotman | ledet: but getting it is so much fun .. unlike a winmodem :) |
| 17:32.08 | ledet | abrotman: true :) |
| 17:32.21 | tarvid | and let's not forget that winmodems work with asterisk |
| 17:32.31 | ledet | abrotman: although getting rid of a winmodem is a lot easier |
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| 17:32.49 | abrotman | ledet: but you can always marry a girl with herpes :) |
| 17:32.54 | tarvid | is there a good usb modem that works? |
| 17:32.57 | abrotman | who would want to marry a woman with a winmodem |
| 17:32.58 | greycat | no. |
| 17:32.59 | SimonRaven | ledet: yeh, drop kicking it across the room |
| 17:33.03 | ledet | abrotman: lol |
| 17:33.07 | tarvid | a lot of machines lack serial ports these days |
| 17:33.09 | abrotman | tarvid: have an extra pci slot ? |
| 17:33.15 | tarvid | sure |
| 17:33.35 | tarvid | i know the venus ageres work but they are rare and not cheap |
| 17:33.39 | abrotman | http://www.usr.com/products/home/home-product.asp?sku=USR5610B |
| 17:33.48 | debianera_ | Someone can help? I wanna install PCMCIA Wi-fi card US Robotics. |
| 17:33.54 | tarvid | there are machines that do not have pci slots |
| 17:33.57 | abrotman | debianera_: chipset needed |
| 17:34.09 | abrotman | tarvid: just a possibility .. winmodems are a pain |
| 17:34.16 | abrotman | tarvid: that link is supposed to be a hardware modem |
| 17:34.33 | tarvid | i agree, i am simply trying to provide internet connectivity to Linux users |
| 17:34.36 | beardy | tarvid: Buy a real machine? ;) |
| 17:34.58 | jkaufman | as opposed to a fake one? :P |
| 17:35.01 | kadigibox | I love external modems |
| 17:35.07 | tarvid | obviously you are not sensitive to the hordes of people who can only afford old machines |
| 17:35.21 | SimonRaven | uh hunh |
| 17:35.24 | beardy | jkaufman: As opposed to one without either serial port or pci. |
| 17:35.32 | rbochan | tarvid: there are old machines and there are old machines |
| 17:35.37 | jkaufman | lol i know, i'm just teasing you :) |
| 17:35.48 | greycat | tarvid: so buy appropriate hardware. |
| 17:35.57 | greycat | where "buy" may mean "find in the trash" |
| 17:36.14 | tarvid | that is true, in this case it is a Gateway PIII-450 |
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| 17:36.23 | LSorensen | tarvid: linux is usually easiest on less than cutting edge hardware |
| 17:36.31 | rbochan | that's 2x the machine that my laptop is |
| 17:36.42 | greycat | tarvid: and you're saying a pIII-450 has *no* serial ports? |
| 17:36.45 | sinned | if i want a one line script to run at startup, where do i put that in debian? |
| 17:36.55 | tarvid | I do installs routinely, i have a few problems, modems are one of them |
| 17:36.57 | asg | sinned: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 17:36.57 | greycat | sinned: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 17:37.13 | LSorensen | tarvid: my modems always worked. Of course I never bought any modems that made my cpu do any real work |
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| 17:37.27 | tarvid | greycat, no but i have some compaq sffs that do not have serial ports |
| 17:37.32 | s0n1 | what is this.. |
| 17:37.34 | s0n1 | ssh: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied |
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| 17:37.50 | LSorensen | sinned: you could make it run from cron using the time @reboot, or you could write a script and put it in /etc/init.d/scriptname and link it to start in the right run level |
| 17:38.09 | LSorensen | tarvid: I have only seem laptops without serial ports so far, although most desktops only have one serial port left |
| 17:38.15 | greycat | tarvid: I've seen some laptops that lack them. but nowadays we have this thing called "ethernet". |
| 17:38.25 | tarvid | LSorensen, I have a T1 a cable modem and satellite at home but many of the poeple I try to help have only dialup |
| 17:38.39 | [11aa] | yes but remember that thtas US thing only |
| 17:38.49 | [11aa] | Debian is worldwide |
| 17:38.54 | [11aa] | remember that |
| 17:38.57 | LSorensen | tarvid: well I have used dialup no problem. rather easy to do, if you have a modem and not a fancy ass sound chip with stupid drivers |
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| 17:39.13 | cfer | WENAS |
| 17:39.17 | greycat | [11aa]: what's US only? shitty slow overpriced DSL? yes, that's a US thing. |
| 17:39.35 | greycat | the rest of the "industrialized" world generally exceeds the US's broadband deployment |
| 17:40.00 | [11aa] | Yes but the other day i was talkin to a guy in europe where all some people get is limited access through phone lines |
| 17:40.15 | greycat | depends on which country in .eu I imagine |
| 17:40.24 | LSorensen | greycat: the FCC sure is going to hurt DSL if they go through with their ideas |
| 17:40.32 | [11aa] | It was not UK i cant remember where he said he was |
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| 17:40.34 | reebok | stew still gives me an error : dpkg: conflicting diversions involving `/Status: purge ok not-installed' or `/Priority: optional' |
| 17:40.58 | reebok | but at least now I have an available ... no help in /msg dpkg about conflicting |
| 17:41.13 | [11aa] | im getting old memory chip is broken :-) |
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| 17:41.59 | cfer | WENAS |
| 17:42.00 | deepak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:43.03 | colera | what command should i type to get a readout of the size and availability of each partition that i have mounted? |
| 17:43.16 | colera | like used disk space etc? |
| 17:43.24 | stew | reebok: dunno, google it |
| 17:43.26 | stew | colera: df |
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| 17:43.37 | LSorensen | colera: df? |
| 17:43.39 | greycat | colera: fdisk -l |
| 17:43.58 | stew | he said mounted... |
| 17:44.01 | greycat | oh, "mounted". df then. |
| 17:44.12 | colera | stew: okay cool thanks |
| 17:44.13 | greycat | I stopped reading 3/4 of the way through the question |
| 17:44.35 | reebok | stew yep.. doing it.. thx though. Just thought you've might encountered the same error =) |
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| 17:45.33 | phyrster | where is debian's dircolors file? |
| 17:45.42 | asg | phyrster: man dircolors |
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| 17:46.28 | togusa | i just installed debian and its at the command prompt how to i load the gui? |
| 17:46.37 | phyrster | asg: I have read man. No mention of dircolors in any directory. |
| 17:46.45 | stew | togusa: run tasksel |
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| 17:48.24 | togusa | will bad sectors ruin my installation? |
| 17:48.38 | phyrster | locate/find yields no result of a file 'dircolors' |
| 17:48.44 | stew | wonder if aptitude's "tasks" should be preferred to tasksel these days? i've never used either |
| 17:48.53 | phyrster | so where the default color config stored? |
| 17:48.55 | FieldySnuts | he said man dircolors not find. |
| 17:49.04 | FieldySnuts | have fun getting help when you can't follow instructions |
| 17:49.12 | togusa | i typed tasksel and it said aptitude failed and i said are you root |
| 17:49.17 | phyrster | togusa: yes. don't install on a bad disk |
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| 17:49.28 | togusa | *it |
| 17:49.55 | phyrster | togusa: become root then |
| 17:50.05 | togusa | how? |
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| 17:50.21 | deepak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:50.41 | incorrect | what port should lmtp be on? |
| 17:50.51 | FieldySnuts | look in /etc/services ? |
| 17:50.55 | rking | In the firefox font preferences, there's an option "Sans Serif:", and mine is set to the default, "sans-serif". how does this get mapped to an actual font? |
| 17:50.57 | incorrect | its not in there |
| 17:50.57 | FieldySnuts | grep lmtp /etc/services |
| 17:51.02 | FieldySnuts | oops |
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| 17:51.09 | FieldySnuts | meant to /exec heh |
| 17:51.14 | FieldySnuts | google i guess |
| 17:51.23 | greycat | !lmtp |
| 17:51.23 | dpkg | [lmtp] Local Mail Transfer Protocol (rfc2033) |
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| 17:51.30 | reebok | sans-serif = font-family if I'm not misstaken |
| 17:51.32 | greycat | not familiar with that one. |
| 17:51.34 | cn | how i set a wallpaper on fluxbox? |
| 17:51.36 | FieldySnuts | nor am I |
| 17:51.40 | FieldySnuts | ~start a fs war |
| 17:51.41 | apt | ReiserFS is better than ext3!! |
| 17:51.46 | incorrect | found it |
| 17:51.52 | incorrect | i hate asking to find it 2 seconds later |
| 17:52.19 | evilrabbit | sweet |
| 17:52.21 | evilrabbit | :) |
| 17:52.30 | evilrabbit | I solved my own problem! |
| 17:52.40 | FieldySnuts | :D |
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| 17:52.46 | evilrabbit | behold the power of debian! |
| 17:53.05 | asg | cn: use bsetbg or Esetroot |
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| 17:53.20 | psychonate | hmm, does anyone know if the version of gaim in testing supports spellchecking? |
| 17:53.39 | psychonate | I think it either does not, or it wasn't compiled with that support |
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| 17:53.55 | s_ward | gaim has spell-checking? I didn't know that |
| 17:54.06 | cn | asg, what are them? |
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| 17:54.13 | s_ward | Then, I haven't used it for a while |
| 17:54.17 | asg | phyrster: grep for 'dircolors' in your shell dotfiles (~/.bashrc contains the relevant bits for bash) |
| 17:54.22 | psychonate | s_ward, it does, but I don't see it in this version/build |
| 17:54.29 | asg | cn: tools to set the root background to some image |
| 17:54.42 | abrotman | asg: isn't that what he asked to do? :) |
| 17:54.46 | psychonate | s_ward, so it's either too old, or just wasn't compiled with that support I suppose |
| 17:55.02 | asg | abrotman: yes |
| 17:55.17 | evilrabbit | if I have a module that worked in 2.4.27, how come it doesnt work using 2.6.8? |
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| 17:55.29 | psychonate | I think I'll check GAIM's website to see if I can eliminate the former possibility |
| 17:55.29 | evilrabbit | do I have to reget the drivers and do a modprobe on them again? |
| 17:55.43 | cn | asg, i don't find them |
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| 17:55.45 | PDani | hi |
| 17:55.59 | PDani | how can i check, that which process is using the soundcard? |
| 17:55.59 | asg | cn: then install them (/msg dpkg search) |
| 17:56.37 | asg | PDani: fuser or lsof |
| 17:56.40 | abrotman | asg: no .. don't say it! |
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| 17:56.56 | asg | abrotman: wouldn't get far in life not saying 'is' |
| 17:57.45 | abrotman | asg: life sure would be difficult without *# |
| 17:58.11 | evilrabbit | alright, I am going to part ways |
| 17:58.13 | evilrabbit | toodles |
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| 17:58.16 | phyrster | togusa: su or just login as root |
| 17:58.18 | asg | abrotman: yes |
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| 17:58.42 | Charlls | heyo |
| 17:58.54 | PDani | thx |
| 17:59.15 | gnetux | abrotman: Help me with the ntf,please |
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| 17:59.33 | abrotman | wtf is ntf |
| 17:59.38 | abrotman | shit |
| 17:59.42 | abrotman | wtf *# ntf |
| 17:59.48 | asg | abrotman: naught toast followers |
| 17:59.54 | ma3x | nation torrent fuck |
| 17:59.55 | asg | naughty rather |
| 18:00.01 | Charlls | i'm interested in using the network installation method to upgrade my RH9 system to Debian. I can download the bare essentials CD iso and start the installation just mounting the ISO image or do i need to boot it (and hence the physical CD recording becomes necessary)? |
| 18:00.10 | gnetux | abrotman: ntfs,still :bash: cd: /XP/: Permission denied |
| 18:00.23 | abrotman | !tell Charlls about debootstrap |
| 18:00.24 | stew | Charlls: /msg dpkg chroot install ; /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 18:00.27 | abrotman | !tell Charlls about debtakeover |
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| 18:00.31 | eka | hi all |
| 18:00.39 | SuperFly | Could someone help me write a startup script? I've tried hacking some other rc.d scripts with the start) and stop), with no luck :( the script that needs to run is at: http://majorgeek.net/script.sh.txt |
| 18:00.43 | eka | anyone knows of a penetration testing software for free? |
| 18:00.43 | abrotman | gnetux: /msg dpkg ntfsrw |
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| 18:00.53 | togusa | how do i access root? |
| 18:01.01 | abrotman | bah .. that's not it |
| 18:01.02 | gnetux | abrotman:/dev/hdb1 /XP ntfs ro,users,noauto 0 |
| 18:01.02 | greycat | gnetux: /msg dpkg user accessible ntfs |
| 18:01.07 | Charlls | thanks abrotman, stew :) |
| 18:01.11 | greycat | gnetux: UMASK UMASK UMASK UMASK! |
| 18:01.14 | greycat | gnetux: like the bot says! |
| 18:01.15 | gnetux | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.17 | abrotman | gnetux: i wouldn't work fro you either |
| 18:01.20 | elmagozizou | Hi...Does any one knows a repositorie where I can find nvidia modules, drivers and settings? |
| 18:01.52 | togusa | anyone know what the command to access root is? |
| 18:01.53 | asg | elmagozizou: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 18:02.11 | asg | togusa: su, sudo |
| 18:02.17 | togusa | k |
| 18:02.23 | deepak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:02.36 | stew | cd / |
| 18:02.47 | asg | deepak: then you have a serious problem. Which debian? Which kernel? |
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| 18:02.52 | deepak | freeing unused memory 200k >>>>> after no responce . |
| 18:02.53 | stew | deepak: how did you install your kernel? |
| 18:03.12 | gnetux | abrotman:thanks |
| 18:03.13 | abrotman | 192k of ram just isn't enough |
| 18:03.15 | deepak | actully its problem in my mandrake server |
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| 18:03.28 | asg | deepak: then ask #mandrake or ##linux |
| 18:03.29 | elmagozizou | asg, supose to send me a message? no? |
| 18:03.31 | deepak | its a bydefault kernel . |
| 18:03.43 | Lusid | Can anyone give me some insight into fixing a system that isn't recognizing LVM volume groups? |
| 18:03.49 | asg | elmagozizou: yes |
| 18:03.51 | deepak | where i willl connect and how?? |
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| 18:04.03 | asg | !tell elmagozizou about nvidia one-liner |
| 18:04.14 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 18:04.14 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
| 18:04.18 | asg | deepak: /join #mandrake ; /join ##linux |
| 18:04.27 | GeNeraLz | hah |
| 18:04.27 | bier | !tell me about nvidia one-liner |
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| 18:04.41 | abrotman | bier: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 18:04.56 | ecobit | anyone know why when a file is copied to floppy it doesn't actually get written until the floppy is unmounted? |
| 18:05.20 | asg | ecobit: it doesn't get written until the filesystem is 'sync(1)'d |
| 18:05.21 | stew | ecobit: that's how filesystem caching works, if you don't want that, mount it with the sync option |
| 18:05.22 | tech9iner | anyone know of a minimally comprehensive comparison tween debian' sarge and Suse 9.3 Pro please? thanks |
| 18:05.34 | bier | abhisawa: thx, "tell me" works, too =) |
| 18:05.36 | ecobit | ah, thanks |
| 18:05.37 | bier | eh |
| 18:05.38 | GeNeraLz | um |
| 18:05.43 | GeNeraLz | debian=command line |
| 18:05.44 | bier | abrotman: thx, "tell me" works, too =) |
| 18:05.47 | GeNeraLz | suse=gui |
| 18:05.49 | asg | bier: yes but it fills the channel with spew. |
| 18:05.56 | tech9iner | rofl |
| 18:05.59 | s_ward | tenthirteen, yast=evil |
| 18:06.00 | Anthro | GeNeraLz=troll |
| 18:06.00 | beardy | ecobit: the file is cached in memory, use 'sync' to flush the diskcaches, so the file is written. |
| 18:06.12 | s_ward | tech9iner ^^^ |
| 18:06.12 | bier | mkay... i'll use /msg next time ;-) |
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| 18:06.28 | tech9iner | evil?.. |
| 18:06.41 | s_ward | tech9iner, just my opinion of course |
| 18:06.46 | tech9iner | left 'eville windBLOWz' 3+ yrs back.. rofl |
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| 18:07.09 | incorrect | cyrus imap is very cool |
| 18:07.25 | asg | incorrect: *shudder* |
| 18:07.33 | tech9iner | alritey then.. guessing the 'comprehensive' bit isnt forth'cummin' hehe |
| 18:07.47 | asg | tech9iner: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 18:07.52 | GeNeraLz | www.google.com |
| 18:07.56 | tech9iner | tanx asg ;] |
| 18:07.56 | incorrect | asg? what are you shudderin about |
| 18:07.59 | abrotman | bier: less noise |
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| 18:08.21 | asg | incorrect: the cyrus utilities are crap (lame Perlish rewrites of tcl) |
| 18:08.25 | tech9iner | excellent asg .. thanks for the pointer guv ;] |
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| 18:08.58 | asg | incorrect: that and the indexing daemon does a rather good job of corrupting mailboxes. |
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| 18:09.18 | incorrect | asg, i am happy with having a quick setup and not having to worry about creating system accounts for everyone |
| 18:09.37 | asg | incorrect: whatever works for you. |
| 18:09.56 | greycat | !l33t mail |
| 18:09.56 | dpkg | <newbie> How do I configure my mail system to have users that aren't in /etc/passwd? Help me, I'm too lame to set their shell to /bin/false!!!!! |
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| 18:10.50 | elmagozizou | How I do I get out of the X mode? |
| 18:11.03 | asg | elmagozizou: Ctrl+Alt+F1 |
| 18:11.10 | beardy | elmagozizou: Ctrl-Alt-F1 |
| 18:11.26 | tech9iner | heh |
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| 18:11.35 | pi-meson | Hey, I'm having the strangest ssh problem on my sarge box; I can ssh in, but any command which dumps a lot of text to the screen causes the ssh connection to hang; for example, ls ~ works just fine but ls -la ~ causes a hang. After a hang I can just disconnect and reconnect. Anyone have any suggestions where I might start looking to debug this? |
| 18:11.53 | tech9iner | methinks there's typo/missing debian perhaps.. ;] |
| 18:12.00 | incorrect | what is loaded by gnome to control the font rendering? |
| 18:12.11 | asg | pi-meson: could be a duplex mismatch maybe |
| 18:12.14 | tech9iner | ''' ...In early 2004, I was invited to give a talk to the members of the Nashville Linux Users Group about why one should choose Linux, and why then choose '' Linux ''...''' |
| 18:12.43 | incorrect | tech9iner, so why choose linux? |
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| 18:12.48 | stew | tech9iner: wtf are you talking about? |
| 18:12.53 | GeNeraLz | lmao |
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| 18:13.41 | incorrect | i choose linux because, someone started hitting me with a stick |
| 18:13.47 | tech9iner | stew typo / missing.. linux/linux.. hello? ;];] |
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| 18:14.15 | incorrect | use linux or ill hit you with a stick |
| 18:14.17 | asg | stew: looks like the meds are starting to run out |
| 18:14.34 | pi-meson | asg: mii-tool shows 100TX-FD. and I've got (consumer-grade) 100-tx hardware all the way to my cablemodem |
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| 18:15.14 | asg | pi-meson: okay, just a guess. I assume from what you said that the upstream switch port is 100TX-FD also? |
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| 18:15.23 | GeNeraLz | use linux or i will pee on you |
| 18:15.23 | incorrect | is there an alternative to gkrellm? |
| 18:15.27 | stew | tech9iner: if you think there is a typo on that page tell manoj, not us |
| 18:15.34 | bier | i have a little problem with "something" (don't know what ;).. i have a little server with debian sarge running on it. i control this machine remotely over ssh. the problem is: if i push the backspace button, it gives me an "~" on the terminal... what could be wrong there? (sorry for the bad english ;-) |
| 18:15.37 | phyrster | incorrect: conky, torsmo |
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| 18:15.49 | incorrect | thanks phyrster |
| 18:16.09 | pi-meson | asg: yes, it is. I've tried rebooting, etc. I'm just really out of options. Maybe bad ram? does debian have something packaged that will let you check your ram without physical access to the machine (i.e. not memtest86)? |
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| 18:16.17 | phyrster | incorrect: docapps, thoug I never used it. I am using conky (was torsmo) and it's great. |
| 18:16.30 | bier | sorry, it wasn't the backslash key, it was the 'del' key |
| 18:16.46 | asg | pi-meson: do you get degredation when using scp? |
| 18:17.01 | elmagozizou | asg, and how I change it back? |
| 18:17.01 | incorrect | phyrster, i used to use gkrellm all the time, just it seems kinda not developed since 2001 |
| 18:17.09 | asg | elmagozizou: ALT+F7 (usually) |
| 18:17.15 | tech9iner | bored are we stew.. JHChrist!! chap.. irc chat's called such for a reason.. ive got midol if you'd like some friend.. did you Not note my implication of amusement/idle chatter?.. taking your hall monitor bit serious rofl |
| 18:17.16 | elmagozizou | asg, if no? |
| 18:17.27 | asg | elmagozizou: then F2-8 |
| 18:17.32 | pi-meson | asg: Yes, it starts out at something like 20 KB/sec and quickly stalls to zero. Even when I try rate-limiting it to 1 KB/sec |
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| 18:18.02 | asg | pi-meson: then I'd check cabling. Also, does ifconfig show errors on the interface (server? client?) |
| 18:18.17 | SimonRaven | servent |
| 18:18.19 | bier | forgot: i have a second debian sarge machine, without this problem... |
| 18:18.20 | SimonRaven | ;p |
| 18:18.25 | phyrster | incorrect: check out torsmo or conky(developed by gentoo guys). you can apt-get torsmo now and see whether you like it or not |
| 18:18.50 | incorrect | phyrster, ill just emerge it ;) |
| 18:18.56 | SimonRaven | blah |
| 18:19.00 | pi-meson | asg: no errors on the interface |
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| 18:19.04 | stew | tech9iner: if you found a typo, seriously, why wouldn't you tell him? |
| 18:19.05 | phyrster | incorrect: haha, you are the gentoo guy. |
| 18:19.08 | stew | oh nm |
| 18:19.28 | incorrect | phyrster, i just use what is sensible, debian is for my 50 servers |
| 18:19.30 | asg | pi-meson: hmmm, that's odd. Is there perhaps another machine with the same ip? |
| 18:19.37 | incorrect | and gentoo for my laptop |
| 18:19.39 | tech9iner | stew im not refusing to tell anyone anything chum lol.. and yes.. ditto the nevermind bit rolf |
| 18:19.42 | incorrect | i like to burn my little laptop |
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| 18:20.19 | mazingaro | ciao |
| 18:20.35 | pi-meson | asg: there shouldn't be, but what's a good way to check ? |
| 18:20.39 | phyrster | incorrect: gentoo's wiki and tips are really good. |
| 18:20.41 | yuacht | how do i send packets to a specified port? |
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| 18:21.05 | phyrster | incorrect: then emerge conky and you will love it |
| 18:21.13 | mazingaro | yuacht: stamps and a correct address |
| 18:21.19 | asg | pi-meson: not without dropping the interface and pinging from another machine. |
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| 18:21.20 | stew | yuacht: hping2, nc, telnet |
| 18:21.31 | mazingaro | nmap |
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| 18:23.46 | SimonRaven | the docs are sometimes iffy, however. i've seen a couple that could have potential security issues |
| 18:23.55 | SimonRaven | (gentoo) |
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| 18:24.25 | SimonRaven | people are slowly trickling back in i see |
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| 18:24.37 | theeil | what are the 14 iso images on the ftp servers? |
| 18:24.41 | Charlls | i have a very klunky problem with shm_open - ftruncate - mmap (apparently ftruncate doesnt really grow the file and accesing the map gives SIGBUS). I'm tempted to think this is a problem (aka bug) in the NPTL support in my kernel (2.4.30.something). I've searched a lot and apparently i'm using the thing correctly, but still gives error. Could anyone be so gentle to try to compile the source and tell me what they get? (its just a two file source |
| 18:24.41 | Charlls | with no Makefile) |
| 18:24.42 | asg | SimonRaven: we never left muhhahahah |
| 18:24.53 | SimonRaven | *we* never left ;) |
| 18:25.27 | SimonRaven | my cloak is dead for some reason |
| 18:25.29 | psychonate | hmm |
| 18:25.32 | asg | theeil: that's all of sarge. You don't need all of them, if that's what you are asking. Just get the first or a net install iso and install the reset from the net. |
| 18:25.42 | asg | SimonRaven: time to beat RichiH |
| 18:25.48 | stew | theeil: they contain every single package in debian. you only need the first to install and then you can fetch whatever else you need off the net |
| 18:25.54 | psychonate | gaim 1.3.1 has spellchecking support, so either it wasn't compiled-in or something is wrong |
| 18:25.59 | psychonate | (in testing's gaim) |
| 18:26.37 | theeil | i have a net install cd but i use rp-pppoe for adsl, can i set that up? |
| 18:26.49 | asg | psychonate: well, it depends on libaspell15 and libgtkspell so it was compiled apparently. Check /usr/share/doc/gaim/* for more info. |
| 18:27.22 | abrotman | ok .. that's it ... everyone get out! |
| 18:27.23 | LSorensen | theeil: I don't think there is any pppoe support on the netinstall cd yet |
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| 18:27.43 | asg | abrotman: no, this seat is warm and comfy. |
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| 18:27.56 | greycat | Charlls: put the source on a web site somewhere |
| 18:28.17 | FarrisG | ANyone know a way to read or convert a PageMaker .p65 file without PageMaker? |
| 18:28.27 | LSorensen | theeil: might be simplest for pppoe users to install with cd1 then setup pppoe and switch the sources.list to net for everything else |
| 18:28.38 | abrotman | asg: your seat is always warm and comfy |
| 18:28.49 | yuacht | i want to ping a computer on my local net on the port 1025... how do i do it? large and fast packets plz, need to do some security chekcing. didn't manage to use hping2 even though i tried |
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| 18:29.05 | asg | abrotman: the couch is better |
| 18:29.12 | theeil | there is an option to open a shell when i boot, can i just compile pr-pppoe, run it, then go back to the installer and run the net install? |
| 18:29.17 | GeNeraLz | ping ip |
| 18:29.28 | theeil | i have already installed the base system |
| 18:29.31 | GeNeraLz | ping 192.168.1.111 |
| 18:29.35 | yuacht | GeNeraLz, can't pick a port there |
| 18:29.37 | Scorpaen | i recompiled my kernel. now i can't modprobe nvidia. tried the nvidia one-liner install, ends with 'fatal - can't find module nvidia'. help?? |
| 18:29.45 | LSorensen | theeil: the netinstall doesn't have any ppp support included last I checked |
| 18:29.46 | GeNeraLz | ping 192.168.1.111:10000 |
| 18:29.54 | SimonRaven | you can't do that |
| 18:29.56 | LSorensen | theeil: I might be wrong thoug, it might have had it added |
| 18:29.57 | GeNeraLz | damn |
| 18:30.05 | LSorensen | theeil: might be an optional module on the net install cd |
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| 18:30.44 | theeil | no, but i can download pr-pppoe from the site and move it to my debian partition |
| 18:30.50 | psychonate | asg, I didn't find much in there. |
| 18:30.58 | psychonate | asg, I'm not sure what the problem is |
| 18:31.20 | LSorensen | theeil: hmm, I just checked. There is a rp-pppoe udeb on the net install cd. it probably would work if you ask it specifically to add the pppoe udeb. might need expert mode. |
| 18:31.26 | greycat | !info hping2 sid |
| 18:31.30 | dpkg | hping2: (Active Network Smashing Tool), section net, is extra. Version: 2.rc3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 69 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 18:31.34 | SimonRaven | theeil: or you could install debian's if it isn't already. it's the same damned thing |
| 18:31.39 | greycat | you can use that to do TCP port "pings" |
| 18:31.46 | asg | psychonate: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=305741 (might have some hints) |
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| 18:31.58 | Scorpaen | how to fix nvidia when recompiling kernel, anyone?? |
| 18:32.16 | greycat | you can't fix nvidia. |
| 18:32.23 | stew | heh |
| 18:32.26 | Scorpaen | :( |
| 18:32.28 | stew | Scorpaen: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 18:32.29 | SimonRaven | !fix nvidia |
| 18:32.36 | theeil | k, i'll try that, thanks |
| 18:32.46 | Scorpaen | stew, nvidia one liner ends with 'fatal module nvidia not found' |
| 18:32.52 | Scorpaen | when i try the nvidia one liner |
| 18:32.55 | Scorpaen | any other suggestions? |
| 18:33.08 | Charlls | greycat: im dccing you |
| 18:33.16 | greycat | Charlls: web site would've been nicer, but oh well. |
| 18:33.21 | stew | Scorpaen: then something earlier in the one liner must have broken |
| 18:33.34 | LSorensen | Scorpaen: which debian version? |
| 18:33.40 | Scorpaen | sarge 3.1 |
| 18:33.48 | LSorensen | Scorpaen: could try the howto at www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/ |
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| 18:34.11 | Charlls | greycat: just compile the two in the ready directory, g++ shm_test.cpp SCUM_Shm.cpp -o blah -*lrt |
| 18:34.18 | Charlls | g++ shm_test.cpp SCUM_Shm.cpp -o blah -lrt |
| 18:34.25 | Scorpaen | ok LSorensen thanks, checking it out |
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| 18:35.33 | Charlls | greycat: this is a posix shared memory test, start one instance like ./blah r chum and in other console start another ./blah w chum. Tell me if you see a SIGBUS |
| 18:35.34 | psychonate | asg, thanks, that did it. As soon as aspell-en is installed, it works like a charm. I'm surprised that's not a dependency... |
| 18:35.46 | asg | psychonate: it my be a Suggests: of something |
| 18:35.59 | psychonate | possibly, I don't recall |
| 18:36.02 | abrotman | !beer me |
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| 18:36.08 | psychonate | it should definitely be *at least* a suggests |
| 18:36.12 | jkaufman | !beer me |
| 18:36.13 | asg | psychonate: sounds like it |
| 18:36.16 | jkaufman | awe |
| 18:36.29 | greycat | Charlls: the first one (./Posix_Shm r chum) blows up with "sem_open::::: Function not implemented" and "Segmentation fault" |
| 18:36.36 | jkaufman | does it have a coffee feature? |
| 18:36.36 | asg | psychonate: if you had used aptitude, it probably would have been pulled in. apt-get, otoh, wouldn't pull it automatically. |
| 18:36.42 | sess | a quick reminder, does debian use runlevel 2 as teh default multiuser runlevel or 5 (eg, with XDM starting up at boot time) |
| 18:36.45 | sess | or am I way off |
| 18:36.49 | greycat | sess: grep default /etc/inittab |
| 18:36.52 | sess | I need to remove exim from my startup |
| 18:36.52 | Charlls | ah ok greycat you dont have nptl then :( |
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| 18:37.05 | greycat | Charlls: that's on a sarge box with 2.4.27-2-686 |
| 18:37.10 | sess | apt-get remove exim4 did not remove the exim binaries either |
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| 18:37.28 | asg | sess: did you install another mta in its place? |
| 18:38.38 | Ungy | net split? |
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| 18:40.15 | asg | s/proviles/provides/ |
| 18:40.15 | GeNeraLz | whee |
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| 18:40.15 | pi-meson | okay, further pushing with netcat shows that I can clearly upload and download on this machine at full speed, it's just something about ssh |
| 18:40.15 | GeNeraLz | i love netsplits |
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| 18:40.16 | asg | pi-meson: do you have a linksys router/switch/hub/kitchen-sink in between? |
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| 18:40.22 | asg | pi-meson: I've seen odd ssh borkage with older crap linksys stuff before. |
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| 18:43.28 | pi-meson | asg: no, we've got a linux machine doing ipip tunneling through a cablemodem (motorola/comcast) |
| 18:43.55 | sess | is there a directory of apt sources I can use to find debs for apps that aren't part of sarges apt tree? |
| 18:44.07 | asg | pi-meson: hmmm. Maybe time to check the openssh mailing lists or perhaps the bts. |
| 18:44.25 | vasundhar | tunneling ?? for what ? |
| 18:44.55 | cn | how can i set an icon on fluxbox? |
| 18:44.59 | vasundhar | My admin blocked freenode, not able to connect and ask, so I wanted to do it my self (Tunnel) |
| 18:45.01 | pi-meson | vasundhar : so we can be on our school's network |
| 18:45.11 | vasundhar | any knowledge sharing ove rge topic |
| 18:45.18 | pi-meson | ash: yea, I'm trying an strace on the sshd now, maybe that'll point me to something |
| 18:45.34 | green_earz | sess: apt-get.org: "Unofficial APT repositories" > http://www.apt-get.org/ |
| 18:45.43 | vasundhar | pi-meson: ? |
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| 18:46.08 | vasundhar | sshd is the Server for ssh service right? |
| 18:46.14 | asg | pi-meson: maybe. iirc, the issue I had was due to mac corruption or something similar. |
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| 18:46.27 | asg | pi-meson: I'm out of ideas. Good luck in finding a solution. |
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| 18:47.21 | pi-meson | vashundar: a lot of our school's network services are IP-acled, and some people run a tunnel so we can have a net-18 IP address |
| 18:47.34 | vasundhar | Ok , |
| 18:47.44 | vasundhar | fine I leave |
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| 18:48.06 | incorrect | does anyone here use a hosting provider? |
| 18:48.09 | sebastian_ | I run sudo mount -t ntfs -r -o umask=555 /dev/hda2 /mnt/ntfs/hda2 and it works, but as user when I open the partition the folders looks like files. |
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| 18:49.38 | smhar | is there a way to have a list a list of all packages installed in debian so when I reinstall I can just give that list and it will install everything back |
| 18:49.47 | jetx | yes |
| 18:49.48 | asg | sess: /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 18:49.50 | asg | bah |
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| 18:49.56 | asg | smhar: /msg dpkg reinstall |
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| 18:52.55 | Qalimas | when downloading iso images for stable, i want 3.1_r0a correct? |
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| 18:53.15 | asg | Qalimas: yes |
| 18:53.19 | Qalimas | thank you =) |
| 18:53.53 | AlphaOmega_wrk | how do i add 2 numbers from the command line? i.e.: $ 1 + 1 |
| 18:53.54 | AlphaOmega_wrk | 2 |
| 18:54.14 | asg | AlphaOmega_wrk: echo $(( 1 + 1 )) |
| 18:54.19 | travisat | err why? |
| 18:54.50 | goccia | AlphaOmega_wrk: bc |
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| 18:55.11 | greycat | or ((b=1+1)) if you want to store it. |
| 18:55.48 | abrotman | use c |
| 18:55.55 | greycat | or awk or perl or ... |
| 18:56.07 | Anthro | AlphaOmega_wrk: Or, if you want to stick with Bourne-compliant syntax, expr 1 + 1 |
| 18:56.08 | stew | abrotman: ((c=1+1)) ? |
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| 18:56.21 | abrotman | stew: sure .. why not :) |
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| 18:56.47 | Justin | !tell smhar about selections |
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| 18:57.24 | gilead | Hello! I'd like to set up a link to router using two links, both using same IP address so that if any of them goes down machine can still be online -- how is this called? What should I read to do this? |
| 18:57.34 | homecable | how do i see all what packs i got installed on my sys |
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| 18:57.48 | Qalimas | homecable: try dpkg -l |
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| 18:57.55 | asg | whoohoo |
| 18:57.57 | asg | !pubtime |
| 18:57.57 | dpkg | [pubtime] time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 18:57.58 | travisat | homecable: or just use aptitude |
| 18:58.09 | incorrect | what does the gnome desktop load to control fonts? |
| 18:58.19 | stew | gilead: linuxvirtualserver.org linux-ha.org ultramonkey.org #linux-ha |
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| 18:58.32 | incorrect | if i run X and a gtk app the fonts aren't consistant |
| 18:58.37 | gilead | stew: thanks! |
| 18:58.45 | homecable | how do i remove httpd ? |
| 18:58.51 | AlphaOmega_wrk | Thanks goccia |
| 18:58.56 | greycat | homecable: it's called "apache" in most cases. |
| 18:58.57 | AlphaOmega_wrk | bc is it :) |
| 18:59.00 | abrotman | homecable: how did you install it ? |
| 18:59.01 | incorrect | homecable, dpkg -P apache2 |
| 18:59.11 | abrotman | more like apache2-common |
| 18:59.12 | greycat | oh hell, I'd purge apache2 too! |
| 18:59.13 | incorrect | yes > /dev/sda |
| 18:59.14 | greycat | *shudder* |
| 18:59.17 | greycat | who would use *that*? |
| 18:59.28 | abrotman | greycat: the alternatives aren't much better :) |
| 18:59.34 | greycat | there's apache. |
| 18:59.47 | goccia | AlphaOmega_wrk: np :) |
| 18:59.54 | abrotman | oh sure .. apache1 .. but i meant .. no apache products when i said alternatives |
| 18:59.59 | incorrect | i don't use a web server, i just run around and tell everyone |
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| 19:00.23 | abrotman | incorrect: you should use netcat ... |
| 19:00.37 | incorrect | but where is the love? |
| 19:00.48 | greycat | !find love |
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| 19:00.54 | dpkg | ultrapossum-failover: (UltraPossum Master server failover module), section net, is optional. Version: 1.0rc5-3 (sid), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 276 kB |
| 19:00.55 | deefzi | incorrect, more importantly, WHAT is love >:x |
| 19:01.06 | greycat | !love |
| 19:01.06 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 19:01.20 | travisat | love is an ultrapossum??? |
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| 19:01.29 | incorrect | lol |
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| 19:02.15 | sess | bbl |
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| 19:02.18 | sess | thanks for all the help |
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| 19:02.22 | sess | got hula to replace exim4 |
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| 19:04.12 | Qalimas | im currently running kubuntu, i used to use vmware and now have an ampty 50gb partition, if i were to instlal debian on it, do i remove that partition from my kubuntu fstab? and how would i keep debian to itself without mounting the kubuntu root partition? |
| 19:05.17 | stew | Qalimas: where is it currently mounted in kubuntu? depending on where, it doesn' tmatter if you remove it. debian won't mount your kubuntu partitions until you tell it to |
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| 19:06.19 | Qalimas | stew: i see, thank you, and in kubuntu its currently mounted as /vmware |
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| 19:06.54 | stew | Qalimas: then its shouldn't matter much if kubuntu is mounting it. however you may choose to mount it to somewhere more appropriate |
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| 19:07.53 | Qalimas | stew: thank you, and yes, ill be remounting it as /debian ;) |
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| 19:13.31 | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 | where do i change the key mapping in console??? |
| 19:13.55 | smhar | Justin, thanks |
| 19:14.02 | LSorensen | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4: dpkg-reconfigure console-data or something like that. |
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| 19:15.00 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 19:15.00 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev |
| 19:15.09 | abrotman | !nickmeter CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 |
| 19:15.11 | dpkg | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 19:15.17 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: look!!! |
| 19:15.25 | abrotman | !nickometer CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 |
| 19:15.25 | dpkg | 'CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4' is 99.9736% lame, abrotman |
| 19:15.31 | abrotman | ah .. there we go .. much better |
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| 19:15.56 | s_ward | hehe |
| 19:15.57 | cone | debian-es |
| 19:16.01 | abrotman | !es |
| 19:16.01 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:16.09 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: beat my record of 99.9700!~ |
| 19:16.10 | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 | hmmm is this channel kinda childish___ |
| 19:16.18 | FieldySnuts | and i used urandom output to do that! |
| 19:16.20 | FieldySnuts | haha |
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| 19:16.24 | abrotman | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4: oh .. because your nick is sooo grown up |
| 19:16.40 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: please do a !date on him heh |
| 19:16.45 | yeti | i accidentally chose german as language during installation because it's my native language, but i want to run my system 100% in english - can i change that after the installation? |
| 19:16.46 | abrotman | !date CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 |
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| 19:16.52 | FieldySnuts | hehe. |
| 19:17.04 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: why haven't you copied that to ravenbird ? |
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| 19:17.13 | jair | hello guys, |
| 19:17.18 | abrotman | and gals .. be fair! |
| 19:17.21 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: because I can't get dpkg to do anything (ignored), gimmie the literal and i'll do it |
| 19:17.31 | LSorensen | yeti: dpkg-reconfigure locales console-data xserver-xfree86, should let you fix all the language/keymap settings |
| 19:17.34 | FieldySnuts | msg it to me it' slong |
| 19:17.35 | abrotman | !tell FieldySnuts about literal cmd: date (.*?) |
| 19:17.36 | CHA0Xm1nd-3N1GM4 | i bid you farewell... let the children play |
| 19:17.38 | FieldySnuts | ah |
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| 19:17.49 | FieldySnuts | do that for hire too :) |
| 19:17.54 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:18.13 | FieldySnuts | @date test |
| 19:18.17 | abrotman | i thought SimonRaven synced ravenbird to dpkg once in a while .. no ? |
| 19:18.19 | FieldySnuts | :x |
| 19:18.22 | yeti | LSorensen: i need german keymaps, but everything else in english, cause some of the translations sound kinda ridiculous and it's very difficult to get help if you don't know the exact english error messages |
| 19:18.28 | abrotman | @literal cmd: date (.*?) |
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| 19:18.34 | FieldySnuts | watch it that's a long one |
| 19:18.40 | FieldySnuts | what the heck? it did say okay when i told it |
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| 19:18.59 | SimonRaven | @date |
| 19:19.00 | ravenbird | The current date is Tue Aug 9 19:18:54 2005 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
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| 19:19.12 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.13 | FieldySnuts | oh |
| 19:19.13 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: not a date? |
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| 19:19.20 | FieldySnuts | it said okay, didn't give me an error |
| 19:19.22 | abrotman | it's date $1 is blah |
| 19:19.29 | FieldySnuts | i still fail to understand how all that works. |
| 19:19.44 | philips | Is there a deamon for automatically re associating with access points once you get out of range? |
| 19:19.46 | abrotman | @date $1 is <action> (sets|hooks) up $1 and $randnick on a blind date. Aren't they a (lovely|unimpressive|cute|perfect|badgeriffic|smelly|model) (couple|pair of (dingos|(african|european) swallows|kittens))) |
| 19:19.47 | ravenbird | abrotman: okay |
| 19:19.48 | greycat | "date" without arguments is a special blootbot builtin |
| 19:19.50 | abrotman | @date FieldySnuts |
| 19:19.56 | abrotman | fast |
| 19:20.05 | FieldySnuts | ah |
| 19:20.13 | LSorensen | yeti: well the locales should deal with the language of things, then the keymap is independany |
| 19:20.15 | FieldySnuts | HAH it picked EE?! |
| 19:20.17 | LSorensen | er independant |
| 19:20.19 | FieldySnuts | hahaha |
| 19:20.20 | SimonRaven | er, you need to fix that |
| 19:20.32 | abrotman | maybe fieldy will fix |
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| 19:20.36 | FieldySnuts | it was the same comand as from dpkg, why the trailing ) |
| 19:20.39 | SimonRaven | @fix abrotman |
| 19:20.43 | SuperFly | I need help with a script I have rc2.d starting at boot. This script, which is a .sh bash file, must be ran by ./scriptname.sh & at the command line. I have rc2.d running the script, but it just hangs there at boot. It's like it's not adding the & at the end. How can I get around this? |
| 19:20.51 | abrotman | @butter SimonRaven |
| 19:20.54 | abrotman | oh well |
| 19:20.58 | SimonRaven | ha ha |
| 19:21.02 | FieldySnuts | i also can't figure out why aussiesmite is broken. it works properly (different reasons not jus tone) in msg but not outsid emsg |
| 19:21.07 | FieldySnuts | ~roger abrotman |
| 19:21.07 | apt | Bend over, abrotman and take it like a man! |
| 19:21.15 | abrotman | !wilma FieldySnuts |
| 19:21.35 | FieldySnuts | brb, if someone wants to fix date and aussiesmite go for it. i dn't know what is wrong with them. |
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| 19:22.31 | greycat | ravenbird: CMD: date (.*?) =~ s/)))/))/ |
| 19:22.32 | ravenbird | greycat: OK |
| 19:22.37 | greycat | @date FieldySnuts |
| 19:23.10 | dmbiiii | s |
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| 19:23.39 | FieldySnuts | again I don't get why the same command on dpkg did not have the trailing > |
| 19:23.42 | FieldySnuts | but thanks |
| 19:23.42 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: the aussiesmite is all kinds of messed up |
| 19:23.46 | FieldySnuts | ) |
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| 19:24.03 | greycat | !literal CMD: date (.*?) |
| 19:24.03 | dpkg | CMD: date (.*?) is ($1): <action> (sets|hooks) up $1 and $randnick on a blind date. Aren't they a (lovely|unimpressive|cute|perfect|badgeriffic|smelly|model) (couple|pair of (dingos|(african|european) swallows|kittens)) |
| 19:24.09 | FieldySnuts | that's another one, it works on dpkg (though there are different phrases) but with raven, only in msg |
| 19:24.11 | greycat | only two )s on the end. |
| 19:24.17 | ale[x] | how can i find out what version of debian i'm running? |
| 19:24.18 | FieldySnuts | outside of msg, it only picks th eone |
| 19:24.21 | greycat | !version |
| 19:24.22 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. |
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| 19:24.44 | SimonRaven | great, i'm getting it from 3 sides. leave me alone, i'm busy |
| 19:24.53 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:24.54 | FieldySnuts | sounds like a personal problem |
| 19:24.57 | deathdellic | anyone running a sparc in here |
| 19:25.00 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 19:25.00 | dpkg | from memory, sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 19:25.14 | greycat | menage a quatre? |
| 19:25.16 | FieldySnuts | i'm gettin old so maybe i can't count the )'s etc |
| 19:25.18 | FieldySnuts | brb |
| 19:25.19 | ale[x] | ty |
| 19:25.51 | RichiH | asg: ? |
| 19:25.56 | abrotman | RichiH: ? |
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| 19:26.04 | PissedTrixBunny | hi everyone, I use vim. but it's not color-coded by default... I have to put "syntax on" everytime I want it to be color coded.... where do I edit to make it color coded automatically? |
| 19:26.07 | abrotman | what about bob!?! |
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| 19:26.16 | greycat | PissedTrixBunny: ~/.vimrc |
| 19:26.17 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: .vimrc ? |
| 19:26.29 | PissedTrixBunny | thanks |
| 19:26.32 | RichiH | abrotman: 20:25:33 < asg> SimonRaven: time to beat RichiH |
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| 19:26.55 | abrotman | RichiH: oh .. well .. why not? :) |
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| 19:27.02 | astronut | RichiH: wow..my head hurts...3 people there |
| 19:27.06 | astronut | 4 |
| 19:27.09 | abrotman | i need a vacation after my vacation |
| 19:27.22 | astronut | abrotman: where you going? |
| 19:27.25 | astronut | is gmail down for anyone else? |
| 19:27.35 | abrotman | astronut: probably nowhere .. but i still need a vacation |
| 19:27.40 | astronut | heh |
| 19:27.45 | abrotman | astronut: works just fine |
| 19:27.54 | [Cadet] | abrotman: I understand that. I was gone for three weeks and was more tired then if I had of worked for those three weeks |
| 19:27.56 | ale[x] | i want to upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1, should my apt-get sources be stable or testing? |
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| 19:28.12 | abrotman | [Cadet]: i was only gone 4 days :) |
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| 19:28.18 | abrotman | ale[x]: stable |
| 19:28.32 | astronut | abrotman: can't get in, my checker can but i can't |
| 19:28.35 | stew | ale[x]: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
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| 19:28.41 | abrotman | astronut: i heard gmail banned you |
| 19:29.04 | SuperFly | gang, in a .sh script, i have to put & at the end of it to have it go to the background...... how can i just be able to do a "./scrit.sh" without putting the & at the end? |
| 19:29.27 | ale[x] | k |
| 19:29.43 | LSorensen | SuperFly: well if you want it in the background, you add & at the end. |
| 19:29.53 | abrotman | SuperFly: ask #bash perhaps .. the normal way is to append a & |
| 19:29.56 | LSorensen | SuperFly: or you write a script to run another script in the background using & |
| 19:30.01 | astronut | LSorensen: he's asking what can he do to have the script do it |
| 19:30.08 | LSorensen | SuperFly: or you run it, hit control-z, type bg<enter> |
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| 19:30.11 | abrotman | LSorensen: could he fork or bg it ? |
| 19:30.24 | abrotman | i guess bg itself .. hrm .. fugly |
| 19:31.05 | abrotman | @dance |
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| 19:31.35 | LSorensen | abrotman: daemons fork and then return from the original part to background themselves I believe. I don't think a script can trivially do that. |
| 19:31.53 | abrotman | LSorensen: yes .. forking is probably not possible .. i realized that after i said it :) |
| 19:32.58 | ale[x] | heres go nothing, i never upgraded a server remotely, and pretty new to debian |
| 19:33.10 | abrotman | !bless ale[x] |
| 19:33.11 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child ale[x], who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 19:33.14 | greycat | self-backgrounding programs are EVIL! |
| 19:33.15 | psychonate | I guess nobody uses xv anymore :( |
| 19:33.18 | greycat | kill them! |
| 19:33.27 | abrotman | xv ? |
| 19:33.29 | greycat | they make it impossible to manage your services sanely |
| 19:33.29 | ale[x] | lol |
| 19:33.29 | abrotman | for what? |
| 19:33.30 | abrotman | :) |
| 19:33.32 | psychonate | images |
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| 19:33.37 | abrotman | i realize that ... |
| 19:33.39 | astronut | ale[x]: distro upgrade or just upgrading normally |
| 19:33.45 | greycat | you don't know the PID of the actual thing you want to manage and then you end up using files in /var/run and pgrep and shit like that. |
| 19:33.48 | greycat | stupid! stupid! |
| 19:33.49 | abrotman | psychonate: i switched to eog a while ago .. |
| 19:33.55 | psychonate | eog eh |
| 19:33.58 | psychonate | let me check it out |
| 19:34.13 | psychonate | I'm just looking for a quick image view that can be launched from the CL in no time at all |
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| 19:34.20 | psychonate | s/view/viewer |
| 19:34.26 | abrotman | !eog |
| 19:34.27 | dpkg | methinks eog is Eye of Gnome and has `fast zooming and scrolling, while keeping memory usage constant.' Can get it at: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/eog or for looking at pr0n |
| 19:34.32 | kickflip_ | hi every one |
| 19:34.36 | kickflip_ | :) |
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| 19:34.46 | psychonate | abrotman, er, is that for use within nautilus? |
| 19:34.47 | abrotman | psychonate: yep .. i use it to view pictures .. `eog *` ... and it loads them all up :) |
| 19:34.50 | ale[x] | astronut, don't know |
| 19:34.51 | psychonate | oh ok |
| 19:34.56 | psychonate | let me try it here |
| 19:35.04 | ale[x] | i just hit aptitude update :) |
| 19:35.08 | abrotman | and no .. not those kinds of pictures .. family pictures! |
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| 19:35.32 | homecable | how do i get php4 to work in thttpd ? |
| 19:35.34 | kickflip_ | some one have use rsync ??? for a local mirror debian |
| 19:35.34 | psychonate | you're into families... |
| 19:35.38 | psychonate | :( |
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| 19:35.46 | LSorensen | homecable: thttpd? |
| 19:35.52 | homecable | ya |
| 19:36.09 | psychonate | abrotman, worked nicely. ty |
| 19:36.20 | abrotman | i'd say pictures of my family .. but i'm sure that won't help :) |
| 19:36.41 | psychonate | that's even stranger |
| 19:36.44 | abrotman | see |
| 19:36.46 | psychonate | ...you can't win here |
| 19:36.47 | LSorensen | homecable: does it support plugins? |
| 19:36.52 | LSorensen | homecable: does it support cgi? |
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| 19:37.06 | abrotman | psychonate: if you hit .. uhm .. F11 i think .. goes into full screen slide show kind of thing |
| 19:37.18 | abrotman | homecable: there are docs at php.net |
| 19:37.31 | js_ | is there an app that can run heavy tests on a hard drive to see if something is wrong? |
| 19:37.33 | ale[x] | hmm done, that was pretty fast |
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| 19:37.48 | kickflip_ | please somo one can help me... |
| 19:37.59 | kickflip_ | some |
| 19:38.05 | kickflip_ | anie |
| 19:38.08 | kickflip_ | :S |
| 19:38.10 | abrotman | well .. i lied |
| 19:38.12 | abrotman | they aren't there |
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| 19:39.29 | ale[x] | anyone using php5 with 3.1 |
| 19:39.32 | enriched | is there an libcrypto fix for unstable |
| 19:39.37 | ale[x] | i see its only in unstable which is kinda scary |
| 19:40.08 | [11aa] | Is it posible to install another OS (that can be lilo-booted) on an already running debian... |
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| 19:40.13 | streuner | ale[x]: use php4 then |
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| 19:40.37 | ale[x] | i would like to use php5 |
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| 19:41.03 | greycat | ale[x]: /msg dpkg backports |
| 19:41.04 | streuner | ok, don't whine here then |
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| 19:41.40 | Bertram | hi all |
| 19:41.48 | Bertram | I have a question about repositories |
| 19:42.18 | Bertram | How do you redirect repositories without redirecting the domain name ? |
| 19:42.24 | ale[x] | i wasn't whining, just looking for a opinion if it was worth using php5 unstable |
| 19:42.30 | greycat | ale[x]: no. |
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| 19:43.06 | Gathond | ale[x]: unless you are somehow forced to use something that only works in php5 no |
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| 19:43.17 | streuner | ale[x]: there were reasons why it wasn't in unstable a long time, if you want use - use it |
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| 19:43.53 | ale[x] | k thanks guys |
| 19:44.00 | ale[x] | i guess i'll stick with php4 |
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| 19:44.38 | bartden | hi, i just installed debian on my acer travelmate laptop using the net install cd, installation went fine, but when i do my first boot i get hw_random: cant be loaded missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random |
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| 19:44.52 | tax0n | aren't the OO features in php5 worth switching to it? |
| 19:45.02 | Anthro | bartden: Does it prevent it from booting? |
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| 19:45.09 | s_ward | tax0n, they're a reason not to switch to it |
| 19:45.23 | Gathond | tax0n: that is a non issue if your software dont use it, my main point |
| 19:45.30 | Petaris | Can anyone tell me if it is possible to specify a driver before loading the kernel during an install? |
| 19:45.32 | tax0n | s_ward: how so...buggy? |
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| 19:45.44 | s_ward | tax0n, un-necessary |
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| 19:45.55 | bartden | Anthro yes |
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| 19:46.19 | tax0n | s_ward: i.e. you can get by on C-style structure and union coding? |
| 19:46.42 | LSorensen | tax0n: of course you can |
| 19:46.43 | greycat | why do all the popular web-scripting languages start with 'p', and why isn't pascal involved in the Great War? |
| 19:46.48 | greycat | php, perl, python |
| 19:46.58 | LSorensen | tax0n: I have sen people write OO code in C too. Might not be as easy as in C++ but you can do it |
| 19:47.00 | Anthro | bartden: Can you boot single-user? |
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| 19:47.13 | bartden | how do i do that |
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| 19:47.22 | greycat | LSorensen: I wish people would just write *good* code instead of "OO" code. |
| 19:47.26 | bartden | Anthro i'm using grub |
| 19:47.35 | LSorensen | greycat: That sure woudl be nice. |
| 19:47.40 | Anthro | bartden: Can't help you there. Grub is not my friend. |
| 19:48.00 | LSorensen | bartden: debian normalyl adds a 'recovery' version of each kernel to the grub menu. that one does single user |
| 19:48.21 | bartden | yes LSorensen but it has the same problem |
| 19:48.27 | LSorensen | bartden: otherwise, hit e on the entry, hit e on the kernel line, add 's' as an option at the end, or 'single' and then hit b to boot the edited entry |
| 19:48.27 | tax0n | what about feature of MySQL 4.1 that only work with PHP 5? |
| 19:48.32 | s_ward | tax0n, yes, quite easily |
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| 19:48.47 | bartden | LSorensen k ill try |
| 19:48.50 | Kasiope | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.50 | Kasiope | <Kasiope> /dev/what???? |
| 19:49.05 | LSorensen | bartden: did you install with 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 19:49.18 | streuner | Kasiope: /topic |
| 19:49.27 | streuner | Kasiope: install debian |
| 19:49.30 | bartden | LSorensen 2.4 |
| 19:49.47 | Kasiope | ok |
| 19:49.48 | LSorensen | bartden: I suggest trying 2.6, it seems to work better on newer machines. boot installer cd with option 'linux26' |
| 19:49.53 | bartden | LSorensen how can i select the 2.6 in the net installation menu |
| 19:49.59 | bartden | LSorensen it never asked for it |
| 19:50.12 | LSorensen | bartden: sure it did. the boot prompt had instructions about hitting function keys |
| 19:50.15 | bartden | ah k |
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| 19:51.13 | joanpau | Hi |
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| 19:51.53 | joanpau | Can somebody tell me the name of a spanish or catalan debian channel please? Thank You! |
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| 19:51.57 | greycat | !es |
| 19:51.57 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:54.47 | marc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.51 | flask- | hi I was wondering if there was a simple binary in apt that does the same thing as the 'md5' utility on BSD systems? |
| 19:54.58 | Kasiope | streuner: ok so what this means??? "usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using address 3" |
| 19:55.02 | flask- | ie, take a string on the command line and output the md5sum |
| 19:55.10 | Bertram | flask-: md5sum |
| 19:55.11 | Gathond | flask-: md5sum ? |
| 19:55.20 | Bertram | eh was quicker |
| 19:55.21 | LSorensen | flask-: echo blach | md5sum - |
| 19:55.31 | flask- | lsorenson: that give an error actually |
| 19:55.37 | LSorensen | flask-: it does? |
| 19:55.39 | Gathond | flask-: you might want sha1sum instead though (or whatever the package is called) |
| 19:55.43 | flask- | i think... one moment i'll try again |
| 19:55.44 | streuner | Kasiope: How do you get this at all? |
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| 19:55.51 | sandos_ | or tthsum |
| 19:55.52 | sandos_ | ;) |
| 19:56.05 | LSorensen | flask-: oops. echo blah| md5sum |
| 19:56.07 | Kasiope | streuner: i got it with demsg |
| 19:56.23 | flask- | ah, there ya go |
| 19:56.26 | flask- | it works that way |
| 19:56.27 | flask- | thanks |
| 19:56.36 | LSorensen | flask-: i remembered from another command I guess |
| 19:56.38 | streuner | Kasiope: your digital camera has usb-storage or not |
| 19:56.38 | ma3x | quick question |
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| 19:56.48 | ma3x | when i play DVD, i see horizontal lines (interlacing) |
| 19:56.54 | ma3x | are there some codecs needed to install? |
| 19:57.06 | streuner | Kasiope: in first case you can mount it over ide-scsi, in second case use gphoto2 |
| 19:57.11 | Kasiope | streuner: It has I found it in the list of cameras in gphoto too.. |
| 19:57.19 | LSorensen | ma3x: probably depends on the player program to some extent |
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| 19:57.25 | ma3x | LSorensen, VLC |
| 19:57.33 | LSorensen | mx: i use mplayer and like the output it has |
| 19:57.36 | LSorensen | er ma3x |
| 19:57.40 | ma3x | okay :) |
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| 19:57.53 | ma3x | LSorensen, do you get that font error when you start mplayer? |
| 19:58.06 | LSorensen | ma3x: not last I used it. |
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| 19:58.49 | ma3x | it says New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf) |
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| 19:59.10 | solemnwarning | hi all |
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| 19:59.21 | solemnwarning | i want to use apt-get install qt3* |
| 19:59.36 | solemnwarning | but i need to stop it from installing qt3-mt* |
| 19:59.49 | solemnwarning | is there a switch to not install qt3-mt*? |
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| 20:00.10 | solemnwarning | anyone? |
| 20:00.28 | greycat | you want the -dev package. |
| 20:00.28 | LSorensen | ma3x: never seen that. maybe you have a bad config file left from an old version |
| 20:00.33 | Bertram | solemnwarning: searching ... |
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| 20:00.40 | ma3x | LSorensen, i got it from marillat |
| 20:00.41 | ma3x | you? |
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| 20:01.31 | tyro10010000 | wow |
| 20:03.08 | LSorensen | ma3x: yeah from marilatt |
| 20:03.41 | LSorensen | ma3x: seems to work. sometimes it hates my onboard sound, but the machine with the sb live works great |
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| 20:04.43 | ma3x | this is stupid i have the movie i can't see it properly |
| 20:04.44 | ryoohki | i installed debian from knoppix, apt-get dist-upgrade ; and now my "lo" interface is not automatically set up right |
| 20:05.05 | LSorensen | ma3x: what output do you use? |
| 20:05.14 | ryoohki | i have to "ifconfig lo netmask 255.255.255.0 127.0.0.1 up" |
| 20:05.16 | LSorensen | ma3x: on my system I prefer using xv |
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| 20:05.30 | ma3x | LSorensen, Xvideo as well |
| 20:05.32 | LSorensen | ryoohki: we don't deal with screwy knoppix installs |
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| 20:05.39 | ma3x | but I can't even play it with gmplayer |
| 20:05.40 | ryoohki | then I can't "route add -net 127.0.0.0" |
| 20:05.45 | oatis | does anyone know how I can use DIG to get a list of all the domains a DNS server hosts? |
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| 20:05.47 | LSorensen | ryoohki: your netmask is obviously wrong |
| 20:06.02 | flask- | dammit md5sum and sha1sum print the filename after the sum, and i can't seem to turn that off. |
| 20:06.04 | ma3x | Can't open VMG info |
| 20:06.16 | LSorensen | ma3x: so mplayer and w32codecs and all that installed? |
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| 20:06.29 | ma3x | LSorensen, only mplayer and w32codecs. What else? |
| 20:06.30 | LSorensen | flask-: md5sum has an option for it |
| 20:06.39 | Justin | !wayttd ma3x |
| 20:06.40 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, ma3x? |
| 20:06.41 | LSorensen | ma3x: there used to be an mplayer-fonts package, but I think it went away |
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| 20:07.16 | flask- | LSorensen: it appears md5sum only takes -b -c and -v, none of which turn that off |
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| 20:07.31 | ryoohki | i get "SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument" |
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| 20:07.35 | Gathond | flask-: just remove it later? |
| 20:07.37 | ma3x | Justin, Play DVD movie |
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| 20:07.52 | flask- | gathond: not practical; doing this in a shell script |
| 20:07.56 | Justin | ma3x: and how are you trying to do that |
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| 20:08.12 | Gathond | flask-: so? |sed s/ .*// or some such |
| 20:08.13 | LSorensen | flask-: hmm, I wonder where I read you could turn it off |
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| 20:08.29 | LSorensen | flask-: echo blah | md5sum | awk '{print $1}' |
| 20:08.46 | flask- | ah, that works, thanks |
| 20:08.49 | ma3x | Justin, with VLC or Mplayer |
| 20:08.50 | Gathond | flask-: unless using that bit of resources tilts your whole system ... in what case I suggest dumping the whole shell script and use C or some such :) |
| 20:08.53 | ryoohki | LSorenson: "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 127.0.0.255 up" is wrong? should it be 255.0.0.0 and 127.255.255.255? |
| 20:08.57 | LSorensen | ma3x: could try xine, ogle, etc |
| 20:08.57 | PissedTrixBunny | how do I know if my system supports Kerberos 5 authentication UAM? I'm trying to set up netatalk |
| 20:09.06 | LSorensen | ryoohki: the netmask of lo is NOT 255.255.255.0 |
| 20:09.15 | Justin | PissedTrixBunny: do you know what kerberos 5 authentication is? |
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| 20:09.34 | ma3x | dont have xine |
| 20:09.35 | ryoohki | LSorenson: Should it be 255.0.0.0 and 127.255.255.255? |
| 20:09.37 | LSorensen | ryoohki: and you normally just add it in /etc/network/interfaces as man interfaces tells you |
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| 20:09.44 | ma3x | want to make it work with mplayer |
| 20:09.54 | ryoohki | LSorenson: ok |
| 20:10.11 | LSorensen | ryoohki: and then you go bother #knoppix about the mess their installer left |
| 20:10.19 | Justin | ma3x: what is the actual problem then? |
| 20:10.32 | ryoohki | LSorenson: ok |
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| 20:10.44 | ma3x | Jussi, it says can't open VMG |
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| 20:10.59 | LSorensen | ma3x: what is VMG I wonder |
| 20:11.07 | zimnyx | anyone here uses gmail as filesystem? is it usable (speed) ? |
| 20:11.08 | PissedTrixBunny | Justin, no sir. |
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| 20:11.37 | joanpau | -es exit |
| 20:11.41 | joanpau | -es exit |
| 20:11.43 | ma3x | LSorensen, I don't know |
| 20:11.44 | Justin | ma3x: maybe you should put the full log of mplayer failing to run somewhere, rather than picking a single irrelevant line? |
| 20:11.49 | Justin | PissedTrixBunny: then your system doesn't support it |
| 20:12.14 | PissedTrixBunny | sure? Debian doesn't have it automatically? |
| 20:12.17 | LSorensen | ma3x: is it a commercial dvd? |
| 20:13.03 | Justin | ma3x: now, without seeing the full log that you haven't made available anywhere, a guess would be that you never installed the css library needed to play encrypted dvds |
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| 20:13.22 | Spec | Justin: but isn't that illegal?! o.O |
| 20:13.37 | LSorensen | Spec: is what illegal? |
| 20:13.44 | Justin | Spec: of course it is |
| 20:13.44 | Spec | using libcss to decrypt dvds |
| 20:13.59 | Spec | *gasps* |
| 20:14.02 | p8m-work | LSorensen:Watching a movie you bought |
| 20:14.04 | LSorensen | spec: I would say that using it to play a dvd is legal, but using it to copy a dvd is not. |
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| 20:14.21 | Spec | naa, i'm pretty sure using it to watch a dvd (the one you spent your own damn money to BUY), is illegal. |
| 20:14.28 | ma3x | LSorensen, what do you mean commercial? |
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| 20:14.34 | LSorensen | ma3x: store bought dvd |
| 20:14.49 | FUF_ | dpkg --get-selections |cut -f 1 >> ./foo; FOO=`cat foo`; dpkg -P $FOO |
| 20:14.50 | FUF_ | HEHE |
| 20:14.50 | ma3x | yes store bought and converted to iso |
| 20:15.00 | LSorensen | ma3x: well do you have the css libs installed? |
| 20:15.06 | LSorensen | ma3x: converted? |
| 20:15.16 | Justin | FUF_: man xargs |
| 20:15.21 | Spec | (dpkg -l |grep -i libcss) |
| 20:15.24 | ma3x | LSorensen, ripped to hdd |
| 20:15.24 | OOpd | Hi, I need to know what is the matter between I use a DNS server (intranet) or I use a Netbios name, isnt both translate IP into NAMES ? |
| 20:15.27 | Spec | ma3x ^^ |
| 20:15.27 | Gathond | Spec: Im pretty sure its not (at least not where Im sitting (denmark, europe) YMMV |
| 20:15.30 | LSorensen | ma3x: how did you do that? |
| 20:15.32 | greycat | Justin: he's trying to obfuscate it on purpose. not doing very well. |
| 20:15.38 | ma3x | Spec, what? |
| 20:15.42 | Spec | Gathond: damn you denmarkian! :p |
| 20:15.42 | Justin | Spec: it's not libcss |
| 20:15.43 | FUF_ | justin: haha, thanks |
| 20:15.47 | Spec | it's not? |
| 20:15.49 | ma3x | how? |
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| 20:16.03 | LSorensen | ma3x: well some people would try dd, some readcd, etc. |
| 20:16.03 | ma3x | rip vob files,make img |
| 20:16.18 | LSorensen | ma3x: what tool made the iso? |
| 20:16.22 | PissedTrixBunny | how do I get kerberos for my system (server)? |
| 20:16.25 | PissedTrixBunny | !kerberos |
| 20:16.25 | dpkg | [kerberos] a cross-platform networked security and authentication system for accessing services. http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/, or not so well supported in debian, or getting better slowly in debian woody/sid |
| 20:16.32 | Justin | PissedTrixBunny: you don't want kerberos |
| 20:16.36 | FUF_ | actually, i was trying to obfuscate it |
| 20:16.41 | FUF_ | its a process im actually doing right now |
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| 20:16.45 | FUF_ | just to see how far it'll go |
| 20:16.47 | PissedTrixBunny | Justin, what's a alternative? |
| 20:16.49 | Spec | oi, it's libdvdread |
| 20:16.49 | LSorensen | ma3x: I also didn't know mplayer supported iso files but maybe it does. would be handy for testing dvd images |
| 20:17.00 | FUF_ | err, i meant to say, i was NOT trying to obfuscate it |
| 20:17.06 | ma3x | LSorensen, dd |
| 20:17.07 | Gathond | LSorensen: it does (at least of VCD's) |
| 20:17.12 | Justin | PissedTrixBunny: not using kerberos |
| 20:17.18 | LSorensen | ma3x: dd doesn't make iso's |
| 20:17.22 | ma3x | LSorensen, it's mounted, its just like dvd |
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| 20:17.35 | LSorensen | ma3x: mplayer often will only play dvd's when they are NOT mounted |
| 20:17.36 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.49 | LSorensen | ma3x: css dvd's can't be read that way |
| 20:17.53 | sgeigerbot | Look at whose picture is under "Open Sources": http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165194,00.html (Does Microsoft own Fox?) |
| 20:18.13 | LSorensen | ma3x: try sticking a real dvd movie in the dvd drive, and asking mplayer to play that |
| 20:18.22 | ma3x | ok hold on |
| 20:18.28 | LSorensen | ma3x: not mounted |
| 20:18.32 | Spec | sgeigerbot: hehe |
| 20:18.36 | ma3x | i know |
| 20:18.41 | LSorensen | ma3x: just mplayer dvd://dev/hdc or whatever |
| 20:19.01 | TyreseJones | my PXE server is killing me! Are there any PXE experts in here today? |
| 20:19.13 | LSorensen | ma3x: using dvdbackup or something could probably extract the files from the dvd and then mkisofs with the right dvd options could make a new iso that might work |
| 20:19.15 | ma3x | LSorensen, should i mount the dvd? |
| 20:19.18 | greycat | !ask |
| 20:19.18 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 20:19.21 | p8m-work | TyreseJones: Run! |
| 20:19.23 | LSorensen | ma3x: no mounting is not recomended |
| 20:19.39 | ticktoc | gota samba problem and nobody in samba channel is responding... maybe because it's debian versionized ... anyway.. smbd starts then dies ... here are the log.smbd entries.. [2005/08/09 14:45:21, 0] smbd/server.c:main(798) smbd version 3.0.14a-Debian started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2004 [2005/08/09 14:45:22, 0] lib/util_sock.c:open_socket_in(708) bind failed on port 139 socket_addr = 0.0.0.0. E |
| 20:19.39 | ticktoc | rror = Address already in use |
| 20:19.41 | Spec | TyreseJones: i know a little of PXE |
| 20:19.54 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: People find out only when they ask questions. |
| 20:20.20 | sgeigerbot | ticktoc: sudo lsof -i :139 |
| 20:20.20 | ma3x | LSorensen, it plays the original dvd |
| 20:20.53 | TyreseJones | p8m-work, I was just about to! |
| 20:20.59 | jonkri | when i run "apt-get -d install libgcrypt11" i get a message saying that libgcrypt11 is the newest version. how can i make sure that it's download anyway? |
| 20:21.15 | Justin | jonkri: with the reinstall option |
| 20:21.24 | concept10 | im afraid that my friend is still logged into my server, after running 'w' I get this: root tty1 - Mon16 27:27m 0.09s 0.09s -bash |
| 20:21.27 | LSorensen | ma3x: yeah. you can't dd a cdrom/dvd in the first place, that takes readcd to do reliably (dd sometimes works). you can't do it for dvd movies at all since they are encrypted. |
| 20:21.29 | TyreseJones | Spec, sgeigerbot p8m-work - I've got the whole thing working, clients can log on, and all that - my problem is trying to get dos boot disk images to load |
| 20:21.31 | jonkri | Justin: thanks :) |
| 20:21.38 | concept10 | is he still logged in? |
| 20:21.40 | abrotman | if isapnptools gets dropped .. how do you work with isa cards? |
| 20:21.50 | LSorensen | ma3x: you have to use a tool that extracts the files decrypted, and then rebuild the iso from that (mkisofs can do that.) |
| 20:21.50 | Justin | concept10: do you know what tty1 means? |
| 20:22.00 | ticktoc | lsof says --> inetd 4727 root 5u IPv4 8262 TCP *:netbios-ssn (LISTEN) |
| 20:22.03 | Spec | TyreseJones: sorry, i know nothing of this 'dos boot image' you speak of, i use the linux kernel + pxe :p |
| 20:22.05 | concept10 | virtual terminal? |
| 20:22.05 | LSorensen | ma3x: dvdauthor may or may not do anything helpful too |
| 20:22.17 | ma3x | LSorensen, VLC plays the img |
| 20:22.23 | concept10 | Justin, what does it mean |
| 20:22.25 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.27 | LSorensen | ma3x: well vlc may be less pciky about the standards |
| 20:22.31 | ma3x | the problem is i get horizontal lines |
| 20:22.33 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: I don't think anyone here supports dos. |
| 20:22.41 | LSorensen | mx: mplayer probably expects it to look like a dvd, not just a bunch of mpeg files |
| 20:22.50 | ticktoc | i enabled netbios-ssn cause win2k box not showing my linux box in network neighborhood.. |
| 20:22.59 | ticktoc | thought that might be the problem.. |
| 20:23.04 | Spec | vlc > mplayer anyways |
| 20:23.09 | Spec | !start a multimedia war |
| 20:23.22 | sgeigerbot | ticktoc: That means that inetd is listening on that port, I guess. You need to choose between using inetd and a samba daemon. |
| 20:23.36 | TyreseJones | Spec, funny! It's for BIOS updates! Okay! I don't like DOS either! |
| 20:23.52 | Spec | Okay! :) |
| 20:23.52 | concept10 | Justin, well? |
| 20:23.58 | Spec | I still can't help you, :p |
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| 20:24.13 | OOpd | a certificao LPIC-1 voltada para RedHat ou Debian? Tipo eu posso escolher? |
| 20:24.26 | ticktoc | ok... i'll give that a shot... thanks... for the help... dumb me completely forgot bout lsof (duhhhh) |
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| 20:24.32 | TyreseJones | sgeigerbot, I know we don't like DOS - but tell that to the company that makes my motherboards |
| 20:24.35 | Spec | !debian-es |
| 20:24.35 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:24.37 | sgeigerbot | concept10: tty is probably an abbreviation for "teletype". More generically, it refers to any terminal or terminal emulator. |
| 20:25.08 | concept10 | sgeigerbot, great. How do I tell if someone is still logged in or not? |
| 20:25.09 | Justin | sgeigerbot: yes, but tty1 means something quite specific |
| 20:25.15 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: are you telling me you can't boot the machine without dos disks? |
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| 20:25.24 | Spec | concept10: users, and then finger <user> |
| 20:25.25 | sgeigerbot | concept10: w |
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| 20:25.38 | Spec | concept10: and if they're logged into a tty#, ps aux |grep -i tty#, and kill the pid if you want them gone |
| 20:25.47 | TyreseJones | sgeigerbot, i need a floppy drive to do that! :) |
| 20:26.16 | savio_R | Hi, after a Sid dist-upgrade, cups prints with zero superior margin. How can solve it? Thanks. |
| 20:26.22 | savio_R | Hi, after a Sid dist-upgrade, cups prints with zero superior margin. How can solve it? Thanks. |
| 20:26.44 | p8m-work | savio_R: What was that? |
| 20:26.49 | sgeigerbot | Spec: Why don't you try to make this a little easier on yourself and us by removing some of the constraints on your situation. Whenever someone asks to do something hard like that, it is usually a simple matter of doing something simple to cause a difficult situation to become simple. Simple enough? |
| 20:26.51 | SuperFly | hrm i get some errors with disks mounting during bootup |
| 20:26.58 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: That last message was for you. |
| 20:27.00 | SuperFly | but they are no where to be found in dmesg.... where else would they be? |
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| 20:27.17 | Spec | sgeigerbot: err, that didn't make sense :-/ |
| 20:27.17 | psycose | is it normal that when i use the command $ apt-get source gnat-3.4, apt-get download gcc-3.4_3.4.3-13.* ? |
| 20:27.32 | sgeigerbot | Spec: that was for someone else. |
| 20:27.44 | Spec | sgeigerbot: oh, good, 'cause i keep reading it, and it keeps not making sense |
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| 20:28.04 | sgeigerbot | psycose: it depends on the dependencies. |
| 20:28.07 | concept10 | Spec, Thanks for the tip. There is no PID for tty1, does that mean that terminal is logged out? |
| 20:28.19 | sgeigerbot | psycose: A good example of how dependencies work: When you want to install Samba, a file-sharing program, you have to install logrotate, which is for rotating logs. logrotate depends on cron, which is for scheduling jobs (like rotating the logs). cron depends on a mail transfer agent because it sends email reminders that the various jobs were run successfully or unsuccessfully. So, in order to install a file-sharing server, |
| 20:28.19 | sgeigerbot | you have to install a mail server. |
| 20:28.24 | TyreseJones | sgeigerbot, If I had the time, or energy to open 200 cases, and reinstall floppy drives, just to update the BIOS, then I would. Failing that, I'd much rather just PXE boot them with a dos image |
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| 20:28.58 | savio_R | p8m-work, I can't print with superior margin. Cups set it to zero. |
| 20:29.00 | sgeigerbot | Spec: Do you think recursive questioning is effcient (and not annoying)? (If so, don't answer this question with anything other than a question?) |
| 20:29.21 | psycose | sgeigerbot, but what i try to tell is that is onl download gcc-3.4_3.4.3-13.* and nothing about gnat-3.4 |
| 20:29.23 | Spec | concept10: i suppose |
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| 20:29.27 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: ewwwwww. |
| 20:29.40 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: so the dos image is stored where? |
| 20:29.53 | p8m-work | TyreseJones: Why do you need to update the bios? |
| 20:30.03 | Spec | sgeigerbot: it depends if you're solving a problem or thinktanking, doesn't it? |
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| 20:30.18 | sgeigerbot | psycose: apt-get install -s gnat-3.4 |
| 20:30.30 | Gathond | psycose, probably the same source |
| 20:30.33 | TyreseJones | sgeigerbot, It's stored in my tftboot directory |
| 20:30.50 | psycose | Gathond, ok .. thanks |
| 20:30.56 | Spec | TyreseJones: what error are you getting? |
| 20:31.43 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: if you can get the machines to boot from the tftp server why can't you slip a linux kernel in place of the dos one? |
| 20:31.50 | TyreseJones | p8m-work, about half the machines have the faulty intel eepro PXE implementation, and I want to update them properly. |
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| 20:32.07 | Spec | so... |
| 20:32.20 | Spec | there's a faulty PXE implementation in your eepro cards, and you want to PXE boot them to fix this PXE problem? |
| 20:32.34 | concept10 | When changing /etc/network/interfaces from DHCP to static, should I use the values from iwconfig? |
| 20:32.35 | TyreseJones | Spec, they currently use grub PXE to boot |
| 20:32.52 | TyreseJones | which is on the localdrives |
| 20:32.52 | Spec | oh, so why aren't they booting correctly? |
| 20:32.59 | psycose | sgeigerbot, gnat-3.4 is already installed on my debian sarge... as i got problem with building an Ada shared library may be i should recompile all gnat packages.. |
| 20:32.59 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: Ah...so they aren't booting from across the network after all, are they? |
| 20:33.14 | sgeigerbot | psycose: run the command I gave you...it will show you the dependencies. |
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| 20:33.26 | TyreseJones | sgeigerbot, They boot the local HD - but then they grab the kernel from the PXE server, and boot from that |
| 20:33.28 | Spec | can you upgrade the bios via dosbox? |
| 20:33.32 | sgeigerbot | psycose: "-s" shows you what *would* be installed if you run the command. |
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| 20:34.00 | psycose | sgeigerbot, no when the pachage is already install apt tells me it is already install .. |
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| 20:34.07 | TyreseJones | Spec, I havn't tried to update the BIOS that way yet - but i don't even know if it's a pure DOS environment on the update disk |
| 20:34.17 | Spec | ah |
| 20:34.28 | Spec | so...why can't you pxe boot the dos image? |
| 20:34.39 | TyreseJones | Spec, - Because I don't know how! |
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| 20:35.06 | Spec | stick the dos image in your tftpd directory, (wherever it is, /tftpboot?) |
| 20:35.16 | TyreseJones | I changed my PXE config file, and it didn't like it! |
| 20:35.20 | sgeigerbot | psycose: apt-cache showpkg <yourpackage> |
| 20:35.21 | Spec | err |
| 20:36.25 | concept10 | When configuring your NIC, what values should you use for netmask, broadcast, etc? do I use the values from my router setup page or iwconfig?? |
| 20:36.35 | Justin | concept10: you use dhcp |
| 20:36.37 | Spec | TyreseJones: http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php#config |
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| 20:36.54 | Spec | concept10: you use the values that make sense |
| 20:36.59 | TyreseJones | Spec, I just came from that site! I was wrongly specifing the kernel! |
| 20:37.01 | sgeigerbot | TyreseJones: what were you doing wrong? |
| 20:37.07 | psycose | sgeigerbot, ok thanks so it's may be a virtual package.. |
| 20:37.08 | abrotman | dos has a kernel? |
| 20:37.13 | sobersabre | hello... has anybody heard of quirks with HP Evo W6000 machines under "non-HP" linux ? |
| 20:37.15 | muzkrat | anyone know if iptables supports a comma-delimeted host list for --src ? |
| 20:37.22 | Spec | concept10: 192.168.1.1 is gonna have netmask: 255.255.255.0, and broadcast: 192.168.1.255 |
| 20:37.23 | greycat | abrotman: in the same way that a worm has a brain, yes. |
| 20:37.28 | sobersabre | abrotman, it must have... |
| 20:37.29 | TyreseJones | sgeigerbot, I forgot to specify memdisk as the kernel |
| 20:37.30 | abrotman | greycat: heh |
| 20:37.40 | TyreseJones | Spec, thanks for taking the time to find that for me |
| 20:37.47 | concept10 | Justin, I'm changing from DHCP to static |
| 20:37.50 | abrotman | sobersabre: subtle humor sucks eh? |
| 20:37.54 | concept10 | Spec: thanks for the example |
| 20:38.04 | Spec | TyreseJones: it's easy to boot linux :p, i don't know about dos though |
| 20:38.13 | Spec | concept10: what ip are you using? |
| 20:38.22 | Spec | concept10: different subnet/broadcast for different class networks |
| 20:38.30 | sobersabre | abrotman, maybe. after months of 4-5 hrs of sleep per day. |
| 20:38.42 | Spec | you should use what ifconfig gives you for broadcast and netmask, just because that's gonna be correct |
| 20:38.57 | sobersabre | non continuous |
| 20:39.12 | concept10 | Spec, I understand that. |
| 20:39.13 | sgeigerbot | psycose: NO...THAT'S NOT THE POINT. gcc is a dependency. You need to place one brick in the wall (gcc) before you can place a brick on top of it (gnat). |
| 20:39.24 | SuperFly | but they are no where to be found in dmesg.... where else would they be? |
| 20:39.45 | abrotman | sobersabre: why ... doesn't affect me :) |
| 20:39.51 | sgeigerbot | psycose: apt-get resolves dependencies automatically, installing what it knows you need. |
| 20:39.53 | concept10 | Spec, basically what Im doing is trying to configure a server. Im using this how to and it says change your network from dhcp to static |
| 20:40.00 | TyreseJones | 4 to 5 hours sleep? your lucky! Try living my life for a few weeks, sleep to me at the moment is like microsoft creating a solid stable open source operating system that actually works out of the box, with all hardware in existance |
| 20:40.03 | Spec | SuperFly: /var/log/messages |
| 20:40.08 | abrotman | TyreseJones: you're |
| 20:40.09 | sgeigerbot | psycose: are you used to working with a dumber distro? :-) |
| 20:40.12 | Spec | SuperFly: or maybe /var/log/syslog |
| 20:40.20 | sgeigerbot | s/dumber/dumb/ |
| 20:40.22 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 20:40.22 | TyreseJones | It's not gonna happen! |
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| 20:40.34 | sobersabre | abrotman, you're special. you have a kernel ;-) |
| 20:40.45 | abrotman | sobersabre: and family jewels |
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| 20:41.01 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: damn, not this conversation again. |
| 20:41.06 | abrotman | heh |
| 20:41.18 | Spec | TyreseJones: try booting linux and seeing if you can update the bios via dosbox ^.^ |
| 20:41.21 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: how many layers of K-Y does your keyboard have on it? |
| 20:41.32 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: it's a laptop! |
| 20:41.40 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: obviously a toughbook |
| 20:41.59 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: because you whack it? |
| 20:42.22 | Spec | K-Y on your keyboard? Why? Does it make you type faster? O:) |
| 20:43.02 | psycose | sgeigerbot, as i tell apt-get to download the gnat sources ... i was wondering about why it was downloading the gcc sources... THAT's ALL ;-) |
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| 20:43.10 | concept10 | damn, one more question: If my router is using DHCP should I keep /etc/network/interfaces DHCP or could I change it to static using the IP issued by DHCP? |
| 20:43.18 | sgeigerbot | psycose: Have you figured it out now? |
| 20:43.29 | sgeigerbot | !lart psycose |
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| 20:43.57 | RichiH | gah, can someone /msg me a working lilo.conf snippet that uses initrd, please? |
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| 20:44.13 | RichiH | all this using grub has dampenend my lilo-fu |
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| 20:44.20 | sgeigerbot | RichiH: there should be one as near as your nearest knoppix CD. |
| 20:44.26 | TyreseJones | Spec - I'll give it shot, i'll let you guys know how I get on in a few seconds! |
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| 20:44.35 | RichiH | sgeigerbot: which is not very near, unfortunately |
| 20:44.58 | Spec | concept10: you should make dhcp issue the server's mac address one specific IP |
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| 20:45.22 | sgeigerbot | RichiH: Ich hoffe dies dir hilft: default=Debian image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7-1-386 append="lang=de apm=power-off hda=scsi hdb=scsi hdc=scsi hdd=scsi hde=scsi hdf=scsi hdg=scsi hdh=scsi quiet" root=/dev/hda2 label=Debian initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.7-1-386 read-write # restricted # |
| 20:45.22 | sgeigerbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.23 | concept10 | Spec, thats an idea |
| 20:45.24 | Spec | concept10: or statically set it's IP, but it shouldn't be in dhcp's range of IPs |
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| 20:45.30 | TyreseJones | Does anyone know how to remove ALL Kde Applications, except FireFox and OpenOffice? *and maybe a few others* |
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| 20:45.39 | BillyBoBob | a quick question: debian/unstable, I seem to be stuck in some kind of libgamin0/libfam0/libfam0c102 hell. A whole lotta packages want the latter (which seems to be gone in unstable) and a few here and there want libfam0 and libgamin0 just seems to screw the pooch |
| 20:45.39 | Spec | concept10: dhcp's range is probably 100-254, or something along those lines, look in the conf file |
| 20:45.49 | greycat | !sid faq |
| 20:45.49 | dpkg | sid faq is probably http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 20:46.19 | stew | TyreseJones: /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 20:46.22 | s_ward | Since when was FireFox, or OpenOffice.org a KDE application? I suppose OO.o is big enough... |
| 20:46.25 | Spec | TyreseJones: last time I checked, firefox isn't a kde application, nor is openoffice |
| 20:46.35 | stew | TyreseJones: (neither firefox nor openoffice have anything to do with kde) |
| 20:46.54 | RichiH | sgeigerbot: so it _is_ only initird=/foo.img in the section of a kernel |
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| 20:46.57 | concept10 | Spec, my DHCP range is from .2 to .40, but it never changes |
| 20:47.02 | Gathond | s_ward: probably KDE application == has entry in the KDE meny thing == true or some such |
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| 20:47.21 | Spec | concept10: make your server .42 then, just because .42 is an awesome number, and not in dhcp's dynamic pool |
| 20:47.29 | Qalimas | I realize Desbian doesn't have official KDE 3.4.2 packages for Sarge, would Kubntu's packages work? |
| 20:47.36 | concept10 | Spec, if never changes what it issues unless I use another NIC |
| 20:47.45 | stew | Qalimas: #debian-kde |
| 20:48.03 | Spec | concept10: it should be static anyways, because if your dhcp server dies, your server still has the correct ip settings to be up and fully functional |
| 20:48.14 | concept10 | This crap confuses the heck out of me |
| 20:48.22 | Spec | concept10: if it's always going to have the same address via dhcp -- why not have it static? |
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| 20:48.41 | fatal__ | Qalimas: even if they would install, next time debian is updated it would probably break and you'd need to eigther reinstall of manually fix it up.... |
| 20:48.43 | psycose | sgeigerbot, no because apt-get source gnat-3.4 _ONLY_ download gcc-3.4_3.4.3-13.diff.gz gcc-3.4_3.4.3-13.dsc gcc-3.4_3.4.3.orig.tar.gz |
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| 20:48.52 | cadu | hi |
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| 20:48.58 | sgeigerbot | RichiH: man lilo.conf for more details. |
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| 20:49.05 | Aradorn | ok if i want to install all the packages ive found with an apt-cache search <name> how would i do that without having to type in each name by hand? |
| 20:49.08 | cadu | there's a way to use DVD+rw as dvd-ram (format as ext3) and use it under linux ?? |
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| 20:49.46 | concept10 | Spec, i have no freakin idea. But - basically, I have cable internet, trying to make a test server, my WAN cable IP hasnt changed in two years so im trying to set it up to be static, maybe I should just keep it dynamic and use dyndns.blah |
| 20:49.46 | sgeigerbot | RichiH: of course, you also have to make the initrd. I haven't had a lot of luck with this sort of thing, quite frankly. The Debian installer does a wonderful job (automatically!) of setting up the initrd...so I've cheated that way a time or two. |
| 20:49.57 | abrotman | !sgeigerbot |
| 20:49.58 | dpkg | i heard sgeigerbot is see "~sgeiger" and "~seen sgeiger" ...and *everybody* knows that kawfee is a dumbass. |
| 20:50.04 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
| 20:50.13 | fatal__ | Aradorn: for a in $(apt-cache search $foo | cut -d ' ' -f1 ) ; do apt-get install $a ; done |
| 20:50.29 | Aradorn | hrm k |
| 20:50.40 | Spec | concept10: if your wan cable IP hasn't changed in two years, then there's no reason to change it to static, since it already doesn't change, :p |
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| 20:51.01 | sgeigerbot | !abrotman |
| 20:51.01 | dpkg | [abrotman] someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 20:51.04 | Spec | concept10: you don't need to use dyndns if it doesn't change |
| 20:51.30 | cadu | !greycat |
| 20:51.30 | dpkg | well, greycat is at http://209.142.155.49/greycat.yi.org/ or an error-message-to-apt-get-install translation bot, or way too quick, or magical, or http://wooledge.org/~greg/ or moron #42, or better than a gigapet, or great woodleg, or a linux distro, or sometimes has too much time on his hands, or he outgrew alt.sex.binaries back before it was even alt.binaries.pictures.erotica, or he has nice furry legs, or a sweet ride |
| 20:51.38 | s_ward | psycose, the first complete sentence at GNAT's home page should tell you something: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnat/gnat.html |
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| 20:51.53 | psycose | s_ward ok thanks ... |
| 20:52.03 | trueno | Is there a way to get evolution without having to install 100MB worth of libs? Do you know another eudora-like good email debian client? |
| 20:52.04 | concept10 | Spec, well where could I a hostname that will direct traffic to my site |
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| 20:52.34 | sgeigerbot | !greycat is also neutered |
| 20:52.34 | dpkg | okay, sgeigerbot |
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| 20:53.41 | soukihei | has anyone had major problems with the gcc packages today in sid? |
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| 20:54.19 | fatal__ | trueno: mutt is awesome once you get used to it.... if you want a light gui email client, choose one written for the desktop environment you're using.... ie. kde->kmail, gnome/gtk->balsa..... or whatever... |
| 20:54.20 | sgeigerbot | concept10: dyndns.org and use ipcheck to update the dyndns servers. |
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| 20:55.01 | cadu | 17:54 -!- Anthro [I=gss@pdpc/supporter/active/Anthro] has quit ["Leaving"] |
| 20:55.10 | cadu | what ip is that ? |
| 20:55.11 | cadu | : - ) |
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| 20:55.55 | fatal__ | there's no ip.... |
| 20:56.00 | streuner | dpkg, neutered is <reply> <sgeigerbot> !greycat is also neutered, <dpkg> okay, sgeigerbot |
| 20:56.00 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
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| 20:56.21 | concept10 | Anyone know a good simple how-to that will assist me with correctly setting up a server to host mambo or whatever on sarge? |
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| 20:56.46 | DeadLine | hi, what is the config file where i can change the system console font? |
| 20:56.53 | Spec | concept10: almost anywhere, buydomains.com or something like that |
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| 20:57.44 | psycose | sgeigerbot, have you noticed that i was talking about apt-get source <package> and you may have read apt-get install ?, next time wait a bit more before urinates .... |
| 20:57.54 | soukihei | concept10: mambo is rather easy to setup. you need to install apache, mysql, and compile a php module with the options you want. |
| 20:58.05 | soukihei | after that, follow the instructions in the mambo tarball |
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| 20:58.45 | concept10 | soukihei, I know how to do that, ive done it before. My problem comes when I try to get traffic outside of my network |
| 20:59.12 | concept10 | I guess im confused on the path |
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| 20:59.48 | bushido | hi folks |
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| 21:01.31 | streuner | solemnwarning: turn that off please. |
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| 21:02.42 | DeadLine | can nobody give me an simple answer to my simple question |
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| 21:03.33 | streuner | DeadlLine: at the start? |
| 21:03.34 | dondelelcaro | DeadLine: it depends on which console you are using/talking about. |
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| 21:03.54 | streuner | DeadlLine: you change it in lilo (vga=?) |
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| 21:04.12 | DeadLine | dondelelcaro: i mean in the system console |
| 21:04.18 | dondelelcaro | DeadLine: which system console? |
| 21:04.20 | DeadLine | streuner: i dont use lilo |
| 21:04.22 | streuner | DeadLine: or you using aterm or whatever and read their man-page |
| 21:04.26 | gpuk | hi all - I've bitten the bullet and am about to upgrade from woody to sarge. However, when I issue "aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade" aptitude wants to install some packages that used to be on the system but have since been purged - i can't seem to stop it from wanting to installall these old packages. |
| 21:04.27 | Technel | Okay, I have been trying to get PHP5 and Apache2 to work with Debian. I installed it, it worked, but preg_* PHP functions didn't work. Finally, people recommended I just reinstall everything. I am trying to shutdown Apache so I can remove it, but "/etc/init.d/apache2 stop" fails, and I don't see it in "ps -a"... |
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| 21:04.45 | DeadLine | dondelelcaro: can you be more precise with your question? |
| 21:04.53 | dondelelcaro | DeadLine: a tty? xterm? what? |
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| 21:04.57 | DeadLine | streuner: im not running X. |
| 21:05.00 | ese5 | hiya |
| 21:05.11 | DeadLine | dondelelcaro: tty in this case |
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| 21:05.23 | dondelelcaro | DeadLine: then you're going to use the vga option to the kernel to change the default vidmode; or run vidmode |
| 21:05.56 | streuner | DeadLine: should be working with grub as well |
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| 21:07.02 | ese5 | can someone help me troubleshoot a network problem? |
| 21:07.10 | streuner | ese5: ask |
| 21:07.31 | Technel | Anyone have any suggestions? |
| 21:07.33 | ese5 | i've got this debian system plugged into the router with green lights on the card and router (it's an out-of-the-box knoppix install) |
| 21:07.46 | ese5 | but it doesn't see the network |
| 21:07.50 | DeadLine | streuner: how can i know which fonts i can choose from? |
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| 21:07.52 | streuner | ese5: #knoppix |
| 21:08.02 | ese5 | ok thx |
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| 21:08.27 | streuner | DeadLine: fonts are part of X |
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| 21:08.42 | streuner | DeadLine: so you don't want fonts.. ;-) |
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| 21:09.03 | trueno | fatal__: Thanks :-) |
| 21:09.15 | DeadLine | streuner: how do you call different letter styles in console mode then? dont tell me debian has no consolefont? |
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| 21:10.40 | Assid | umm.. can someone help me setup synergy ? |
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| 21:10.54 | Assid | i get this in my syslog "synergy: FATAL: CXWindowsScreen.cpp,1312: X display has unexpectedly disconnected" |
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| 21:11.00 | winmutt | how do i get the serial number for a scsi hd? |
| 21:11.16 | nvz | winmutt: dmesg |
| 21:11.32 | DeadLine | what debian service is listening default on port 111? |
| 21:11.36 | azreal | DeadLine: consoletrans |
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| 21:11.57 | nvz | last I checked nothing was default in debian |
| 21:12.00 | azreal | DeadLine: consolechars rather |
| 21:12.07 | streuner | DeadLine: grep /etc/services |
| 21:12.15 | SuperFly | sorry, back |
| 21:12.33 | SuperFly | I get errors about disks mounting during boot (goes by really quick) but they are no where to be found in dmesg.... where else would they be? |
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| 21:12.45 | PissedTrixBunny | !swat |
| 21:12.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with |
| 21:12.47 | winmutt | nvz: all i get is model number not serial |
| 21:12.52 | streuner | DeadLine: should be portmapper |
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| 21:13.03 | PissedTrixBunny | !tell PissedTrixBunny about swat |
| 21:13.10 | _rutski89 | dpkg-reconfigure {apache2,apache2-common} isn't doing anything |
| 21:13.35 | colera | how do i get java runtime for debain without doing a manual install from the sun website? |
| 21:13.36 | micjack | holas |
| 21:13.40 | nvz | winmutt: why would the pc care what-so-ever what the serial number is on _anything_ ? |
| 21:13.41 | colera | like with apt-get? |
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| 21:14.11 | nvz | colera: d/l the Linux .bin and apt-get install java-package and use that to turn the .bin into a .deb |
| 21:14.31 | streuner | colera: look at blackdown |
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| 21:14.40 | colera | streuner: blackdown? |
| 21:14.45 | streuner | dpkg, blackdown |
| 21:14.45 | dpkg | blackdown kicks ass; they're java people for linux -- http://www.blackdown.org, or a group of Sun Java products ported to Linux by the Blackdown development team. Get it at http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html, or most mirrors have aptable sections, or a group of folks who signed NDA's with Sun and got the JDK source code. they ported it to linux and put it up on blackdown.org, or shit, use java-package |
| 21:14.51 | winmutt | nvz: for inventory / asset mgmt. I can get the serial of cpu (intel), mobo, memory, ide drives |
| 21:15.03 | winmutt | just cant get scsi serials yet :( |
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| 21:15.56 | filippo | hi |
| 21:16.02 | nvz | winmutt: sounds silly to me. an OS need not care about management of assets. I would take the fucker out and look at the serial number |
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| 21:16.49 | Technel | I do "aptitude install apache2", but /etc/apache2 does not exist... |
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| 21:17.02 | colera | nvz: where do i get the linux .bin suns website i take it? |
| 21:17.07 | nvz | streuner: notice the end of that factoid. where it says "or shit, use java-package" |
| 21:17.13 | nvz | colera: yep |
| 21:17.47 | streuner | nvz: java-package didn't work neve for me, so don't ask me about java-package ;-) |
| 21:17.54 | streuner | s/neve/never/ |
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| 21:18.09 | tessarakt | Hi! |
| 21:18.13 | nvz | streuner: works for me every time. |
| 21:18.23 | tessarakt | I cannot boot ... Lilo broken ... |
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| 21:18.31 | streuner | nvz: well, you don't use i386 and unstable then |
| 21:18.39 | yarko | Hi to all emacs users.... how can I make it to use a single ispell process or at least to don't restart it whenever I switch between the buffers... now it takes to long to switch because it starts a new ispel... |
| 21:18.49 | nvz | streuner: nope. I like my pc to work |
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| 21:19.03 | colera | streuner: do you think that blackdown is better than the software from sun? i assume it comes in a .deb? |
| 21:19.04 | yarko | tessarakt: take installation Debian CD or any liveCD linux |
| 21:19.07 | tessarakt | does anyone know a small boot CD image with which I can use root=/dev/hda1 to boot from my ext3 partition? |
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| 21:19.20 | tessarakt | "any" |
| 21:19.23 | streuner | colera: those packages are older |
| 21:19.33 | nvz | streuner: it will probably be another year before i will even look beyond sarge. with GCC 4, Xorg, Gnome 2.10, KDE 3.4..etc I dont even want to see testing/unstable |
| 21:19.35 | tessarakt | netinstall CD with rescue root=/dev/hda1 does not work |
| 21:19.40 | tessarakt | it does not have rescue |
| 21:19.46 | streuner | colera: they have a lizense to make debs, that's all |
| 21:19.51 | tessarakt | and linux root=/dev/hda1 does not work either |
| 21:20.12 | yarko | tessarakt: do not do rescue... boot regular installation, but do not perform any actions - just mount your target chroot it and run lilo |
| 21:20.15 | tessarakt | it starts booting but kernel panics when it should mount the root fs |
| 21:20.21 | streuner | colera: if java-package work, just use it then |
| 21:20.32 | tessarakt | yarko: I try |
| 21:20.34 | streuner | colera: as 'nvz' already told you |
| 21:20.40 | yarko | tessarakt: are you using fancy filesystem? |
| 21:20.47 | tessarakt | thanks - I get my laptop up here and try |
| 21:20.56 | yarko | tessarakt: why it can't mount root? |
| 21:20.56 | tessarakt | yarko: dunno what that is ... |
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| 21:21.41 | yarko | is there a chat room for emacs users anywhere?? |
| 21:22.02 | prock | yarko: um... #emacs? |
| 21:22.09 | streuner | yarko: on a wild guess, #emacs? |
| 21:22.13 | GlenneMannen | anyone know a simple proxy for debian that uses socks4? |
| 21:22.32 | streuner | Channel Users Topic |
| 21:22.32 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.02 | nvz | maybe the simple-four-foot-proxy package :P |
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| 21:23.22 | tessarakt | yarko: VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 21:23.23 | tessarakt | Please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 21:23.23 | tessarakt | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 21:23.28 | GlenneMannen | nvz: there is something like that? |
| 21:23.34 | yarko | streuner: THANX! |
| 21:23.37 | nvz | probably not |
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| 21:24.38 | yarko | tessarakt: may be try root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1 |
| 21:24.41 | PissedTrixBunny | hi, can someone tell me how to use swat. I typed in: http://localhost:901/ but it saids that connection refused |
| 21:24.44 | PissedTrixBunny | sigh |
| 21:24.47 | yarko | tessarakt: if you have hda1 |
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| 21:26.31 | trend_ | hello |
| 21:26.39 | tessarakt | yarko: can you tell me more about chroot? |
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| 21:26.40 | yarko | tessarakt: but even if changing root doesn't help - do not bother at that stage... boot installation CD, load drivers (which are not loaded with kernel) and then mount your / |
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| 21:27.07 | jshriver | is there a limit to how many files you can have in a directory? I believe I read there was a long time ago, but never thought I'd across the need. |
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| 21:27.33 | yeti | jshriver: depends on the fs afaik |
| 21:27.39 | yarko | tessarakt: nothing to tell.... if you mount your / to /target and it has boot inside, chroot /target, then mount /boot, then run lilo... and then you might get lucky... after it works, boot and install GRUB! :-) |
| 21:27.40 | jshriver | ext2 and ext3 |
| 21:27.57 | Gathond | jshriver: fs specific, but probably a global limit on number of files + one per directory |
| 21:28.03 | jshriver | I'm generating A LOT of small xml files... roughly 144k |
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| 21:28.13 | tessarakt | mount /boot? |
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| 21:28.28 | jshriver | well I'll let it ruun an see if it breaks lol |
| 21:28.32 | yarko | tessarakt: if it is a separate partition... if it is just inside / then don't do that |
| 21:28.39 | prock | jshriver: reiserfs works well for me in that situation |
| 21:29.05 | tessarakt | yarko: ok |
| 21:29.07 | prock | jshriver: mayhaps remount with noatime option |
| 21:29.50 | yoo | Hi |
| 21:30.07 | yoo | i have a dvd writter on hdc |
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| 21:30.20 | yoo | and a dvd reader on hdd |
| 21:30.29 | nvz | yoo: good for you |
| 21:30.31 | yoo | cdrecord -scanbus |
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| 21:30.48 | yoo | record: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11 |
| 21:30.49 | tessarakt | so I boot from install CD |
| 21:31.01 | yoo | drecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer |
| 21:31.12 | yoo | cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver |
| 21:31.21 | yoo | i have this error |
| 21:31.34 | yoo | i read cdrecord documentation |
| 21:31.34 | prock | foo: do you mean you have a dvd writer (not reader)? |
| 21:31.42 | yoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.46 | jbrand | anyone know how to use `apt-cache show packagename` to only show a single result (for example, from stable or from unstable) without having only _stable_ in sources.list? |
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| 21:32.01 | yoo | cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus |
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| 21:32.15 | yoo | scsibus: -1 target: -1 lun: -1 |
| 21:32.21 | yoo | arning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface |
| 21:32.25 | yeti | jshriver: german wikipedia says that a dir in ext2 can have 32768 subdir, and ~130*10^18 files per dir |
| 21:32.29 | yoo | Error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying |
| 21:32.29 | GlenneMannen | is this correct in tinyproxy: Allow 0.0.0.0/0 |
| 21:32.34 | hmakholm | yoo: Your enter key will break if you keep stressing it like this. |
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| 21:32.46 | yoo | Error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying |
| 21:32.50 | nvz | its really fucking annoying, and you arent going to get any hel[ |
| 21:32.56 | nvz | help even |
| 21:32.59 | nvz | because |
| 21:33.01 | nvz | if |
| 21:33.02 | nvz | you |
| 21:33.10 | nvz | talk |
| 21:33.14 | pepsi | stfu nvz |
| 21:33.16 | nvz | across 20 lines |
| 21:33.28 | nvz | people cant understand wtf you are talking about |
| 21:33.30 | yoo | nvz : sorry |
| 21:33.30 | s_ward | nvz, go to sleep |
| 21:33.34 | nvz | heh |
| 21:33.41 | nvz | I was thinking about it actually |
| 21:33.52 | nvz | lack of anything better to do. |
| 21:33.59 | yoo | hmakholm : what do you mean ? |
| 21:34.05 | nvz | its my birthday tommorrow whoo! |
| 21:34.07 | yoo | sorry i'm french :) |
| 21:34.08 | hmakholm | yoo: What nvz said. |
| 21:34.10 | jbrand | hah, or if you span lines, have the decency to end them in \ |
| 21:34.16 | yoo | ok |
| 21:34.32 | yoo | i just try to configure cdrecord on my 2.6.11 kernel |
| 21:34.33 | PissedTrixBunny | I'm using this: smbclient -L hostname -U username and it would not let me get on to samba server.... can someone tell me the correct protocol if I'm wrong |
| 21:34.34 | PissedTrixBunny | thanks |
| 21:34.42 | prock | yoo: your cdrecord line would likely be something like: cdrecord -vv dev=/dev/hdc -data yourimage.iso |
| 21:34.58 | yoo | i add this on grub menu.lst : hdc=cdrom |
| 21:35.05 | prock | yoo: if you are burning dvds I recommend you try growisofs, I found it to be much more reliable |
| 21:35.24 | yoo | prock :ok |
| 21:35.40 | yoo | growisofs replace cdrecord ? |
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| 21:36.00 | nvz | they are completly different programs for different tasks |
| 21:36.11 | yoo | ok |
| 21:36.23 | yoo | i use k3b and graveman |
| 21:36.58 | nvz | whats with all the talk about cdrecord |
| 21:37.12 | yoo | yes |
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| 21:38.54 | tessarakt | lilo won't run in the chroot |
| 21:38.55 | tessarakt | "Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not exist, disk scan bypassed |
| 21:38.55 | tessarakt | Fatal: Filesystem would be destroyed by LILO boot sector: /dev/hda1 |
| 21:39.29 | winmutt | anyone know how to get serial nubmers from motherboards? |
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| 21:39.53 | cadu | winmutt: well i know |
| 21:39.58 | cadu | winmutt: grab some screwdriver |
| 21:40.01 | prock | winmutt: open your case and take a look |
| 21:40.04 | cadu | open case |
| 21:40.11 | cadu | winmutt: and...look...oh and note down |
| 21:40.24 | nvz | like I said earlier. the OS has no reason in the world to know or care the serial number of _anything_ |
| 21:40.29 | winmutt | linux: inventory /asset mgmt |
| 21:40.39 | winmutt | cant open the box :( |
| 21:40.44 | winmutt | win goto 2 |
| 21:40.46 | winmutt | linux: inventory /asset mgmt |
| 21:40.48 | winmutt | er |
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| 21:40.55 | The_mystiC | hi all :) |
| 21:41.13 | The_mystiC | does anyone know how to change the apt-get source? |
| 21:41.16 | winmutt | well i cant use a hammer or screwdriver |
| 21:41.22 | winmutt | cant even reboot the box |
| 21:41.26 | nvz | The_mystiC: apt-setup or edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:41.42 | The_mystiC | nvz: thanks :) |
| 21:41.46 | winmutt | so anyone know? |
| 21:41.47 | prock | The_mystiC: apt-get source apt-get |
| 21:42.00 | nvz | if you can't touch the box, then its not your asset, and you shouldnt worry about managing it |
| 21:42.10 | duncf | lol i was just going to say that |
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| 21:42.31 | winmutt | ginsu: lol |
| 21:42.57 | Technel | I have Apache2 installed, but for some reason /etc/apache2 does not exist! Any ideas? |
| 21:44.01 | s_ward | Technel, reconfigure or reinstall it |
| 21:44.18 | The_mystiC | thanks all :) |
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| 21:45.05 | Technel | s_ward: I have tried, it just doesn't work. First, I can't even shut it down ("/etc/init.d/apache2 stop"). Second, I purge it and reinstall, and it still doesn't have the directory present... |
| 21:45.33 | s_ward | Technel, are you running Sarge? |
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| 21:45.50 | hmakholm | Technel: What do you mean, you can't shut it down? What does the initscript do when you try to stop it? |
| 21:45.51 | Technel | s_ward: Yes |
| 21:46.15 | juanma | any suggestion for a program to be packaged for debian? |
| 21:46.23 | Technel | hmakholm: http://pastebin.com/333236 |
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| 21:46.55 | Technel | hmakholm: And even better, I did "ps -a", and only 9 items come up...What?!? |
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| 21:47.26 | hmakholm | juanma: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/requested |
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| 21:47.56 | Technel | You see, once upon a time Apache2 and PHP5 did work...but preg_* functions did not work, and whatever the required package for those functions did not work either. People recommended I just reinstall Apache2/PHP5...but I can't. |
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| 21:48.08 | s_ward | Technel, `ps ax` should list all processes |
| 21:48.11 | martman | after my install the first boot wizard thingy didn start, how can i start it? |
| 21:48.55 | Technel | s_ward: No apache. http://pastebin.com/333242 |
| 21:48.58 | samuel | can someone plz tell me the difference in the linux-image-* kernel package and the kernel-image-* package? why the two names, they seem the same? |
| 21:49.11 | samuel | except linux-image- is newer |
| 21:49.42 | hmakholm | Technel: So your immediate problem is to convince dpkg to let the package be purged? |
| 21:50.07 | mike_ | Hi all, I need help with gnucash....I'm not able to show euro sign in reports; I asked on gnucash's irc, but thay can't help me...any hints? |
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| 21:50.17 | hmakholm | In that case, try 'ln -sf /bin/true /etc/init.d/apache2'. Then purge. It's kinda brute-force but should work. |
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| 21:50.34 | nvz | samuel: well kernel-image-* exists and linux-image-* does not is the only difference I can see |
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| 21:51.12 | war- | My Debian sarge box hangs on shutdown on "unmounting tmpfs" - any ideas? |
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| 21:51.23 | samuel | nvz, i swear it does!!!??? im on sid btw... |
| 21:51.48 | hmakholm | samuel: There is a plan to change the naming scheme to linux-image, but it is a bit controversial. The exact plan may still change before etch releases. |
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| 21:52.03 | s_ward | samuel, you answered your own question, it's newer :) |
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| 21:52.18 | hmakholm | ("a bit controversial" means that somebody didn't agree with it on debian-devel - it may still go through after all). |
| 21:52.37 | korhalf | im using an older kernel version |
| 21:52.42 | s_ward | samuel, other than that, there is little difference. I have had no problem using it on a sid box, but others have. |
| 21:52.46 | korhalf | that doesnt have atapi support meaning im trying to get scsi emulation going |
| 21:52.49 | Technel | hmakholm: That worked |
| 21:52.50 | korhalf | so that ic an use my burner |
| 21:52.56 | korhalf | how do i go about doing this efficiently |
| 21:53.09 | korhalf | chris@linuxbox:~$ lsmod | grep scsi |
| 21:53.09 | korhalf | scsi_mod 86052 2 [sg sr_mod] |
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| 21:53.25 | s_ward | samuel, in particular, module-assistant apparently does not like the name change |
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| 21:53.35 | samuel | oh, i see... thanks... so thats it then... s_ward i have to use it because i inadvertently upgraded udev, and a few other packages, udev wont work with anything less than 2.6.12 |
| 21:53.48 | nvz | samuel: give me a specific package name |
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| 21:54.17 | samuel | nvz, linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 |
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| 21:54.33 | nvz | !+info linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 21:54.35 | korhalf | can anyone help? |
| 21:54.38 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686: (Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on 686-class machines), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-1 (sid), Packaged size: 16318 kB, Installed size: 47400 kB |
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| 21:54.47 | korhalf | i get confused whenever i try to install a new kernel |
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| 21:54.53 | eli_ | hello people, anyone here ever use synergy? |
| 21:54.56 | korhalf | so i figure ill just get scsi emulation |
| 21:54.58 | korhalf | it isnt a big deal |
| 21:55.10 | nvz | eli_: nope, nobody. ever. |
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| 21:55.16 | martman | after my install the first boot wizard thingy didn start, how can i start it? |
| 21:55.22 | eli_ | bummer :( |
| 21:55.39 | samuel | eli_, kaizand events!!! or some crap like that |
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| 21:55.48 | samuel | kaizen |
| 21:55.53 | tessarakt | I JUST want to use a kernel from a CD to boot in my normal installation with root=/dev/hda1 |
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| 21:56.03 | tessarakt | why doesn't this work any longer? |
| 21:56.46 | korhalf | i need help getting scsi emulation working |
| 21:56.48 | MasterChief | Hi, I just installed PHP4 from source. I can't find php.ini. I tried locate php.ini, find php.ini but nothing works. Can someone help? Thanks |
| 21:56.56 | korhalf | chris@linuxbox:~$ lsmod | grep scsi |
| 21:56.57 | korhalf | scsi_mod 86052 2 [sg sr_mod] |
| 21:57.18 | chealer | MasterChief: did you try $ ls /etc/php* ? |
| 21:57.22 | Jaker_ | <ma |
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| 21:57.29 | Jaker_ | sorry |
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| 21:58.20 | honschu | I'm building a MAME-Arcade-Cabinet and I'm searching lovely vectorgraphics for the sideart. |
| 21:58.24 | korhalf | so how do i enable scsi emulation so i can use my burner |
| 21:58.42 | catlee | Can somebody point me in the right direction to how I can create a .deb from a set of binary files, where the user has to agree to a license agreement before installing? |
| 21:58.56 | nvz | I wonder what if any the significance of the capital/lowercase letters are in front of peoples hosts.. is n= and N= mean anything different? |
| 21:59.02 | honschu | korhalf: I do not need scs-emulation to get my atapi-cd-burner working |
| 21:59.10 | honschu | korhalf: scsi |
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| 21:59.24 | korhalf | what? |
| 21:59.28 | korhalf | thats cuz u have a newer kernel |
| 21:59.29 | nvz | catlee: java-package is an example. it takes the java binaries and does just that with them |
| 21:59.30 | korhalf | i have 2.4 |
| 21:59.30 | MasterChief | chealer no, but /etc/php doesn't even exsist. I don't know what I did wrong. I typed ./configure --with-apxs2=/opt/apache2/bin/apxs --with-mysql --without-pear, make, make insta;; |
| 21:59.38 | catlee | nvz: thx |
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| 21:59.50 | honschu | korhalf: ah, okay - so just load the module with "modconf" ? |
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| 21:59.58 | s_ward | korhalf, korhalf, try loading the ide-scsi (I think that's the name) module |
| 21:59.59 | korhalf | what module must i load? |
| 22:00.07 | korhalf | lsmod ide-scsi? |
| 22:00.09 | korhalf | as root? |
| 22:00.21 | honschu | by the way, is modconf gone in sarge? |
| 22:00.24 | MasterChief | Can anyone help me out? |
| 22:00.31 | nvz | honschu: nope |
| 22:00.42 | shingouz | honschu: install it |
| 22:00.53 | chealer | MasterChief: what about /etc/php4 ? |
| 22:00.53 | nvz | :) |
| 22:00.54 | honschu | ;) |
| 22:01.01 | chealer | !tell MasterChief about anyone |
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| 22:01.14 | honschu | !tell me about anyone |
| 22:01.23 | korhalf | how do i load ide-scsi |
| 22:01.23 | shingouz | korhalf: you need to tell your bootloader that the /dev/hd(whatever) is ignored in favor of the ide-scsi |
| 22:01.27 | korhalf | and how do i keep it there for bootup |
| 22:01.33 | korhalf | i use grub |
| 22:01.37 | korhalf | so how do i go about changing it |
| 22:01.37 | s_ward | korhalf, get modconf, see above |
| 22:01.39 | MasterChief | Can chealer help me? |
| 22:01.44 | MasterChief | :) |
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| 22:01.55 | nvz | !tell nvz which is better one joint or two pinners :P |
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| 22:02.18 | mike-m | !tell nvz about query |
| 22:02.18 | jonkri | if i run "apt-get --reinstall --download-only {package1 package2}" i get package1 and package2 even if they're installed, but what if i want package1 and package2's dependencies, even if they're installed? because i'm not getting them |
| 22:02.52 | korhalf | ah modconf, yeh i got it |
| 22:03.04 | korhalf | but about grub, how would i make it load hdc, i think thats the cdrom/burner |
| 22:03.07 | chealer | MasterChief: depends if you answer me |
| 22:03.07 | korhalf | load it with the ide-scsi |
| 22:03.11 | nvz | I guess all I needed was two hits so it didnt matter. I am obviously high. |
| 22:03.18 | shingouz | jonkri: apt-get install -reinstall --download-only foo bar baz |
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| 22:03.20 | nvz | something is fucking beeping outside |
| 22:03.33 | nvz | its almost strange enough for me to go see what it is |
| 22:03.53 | jonkri | shingouz: that's what i do. but i don't get foo's dependencies if they are installed already... get it? |
| 22:03.59 | s_ward | korhalf, that's not grub's job, see /etc/modules |
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| 22:04.50 | SimonRaven | nvz: i guess you have your answer =) |
| 22:04.56 | nvz | seems like I've gotten lazier since I started working at fedex |
| 22:05.04 | nvz | SimonRaven: not sure what it is though |
| 22:05.15 | korhalf | ide-cd ignore='hdc hdd' |
| 22:05.15 | korhalf | ide-detect |
| 22:05.15 | korhalf | scsi_mod |
| 22:05.15 | korhalf | sr_mod |
| 22:05.15 | korhalf | sg |
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| 22:05.24 | shingouz | jonkri: i fail to see why you want to download them again because you should have them in the cache already. if that format does not work, type in the dependencies too? |
| 22:05.26 | korhalf | sry, but thats what i got |
| 22:05.29 | SimonRaven | duh |
| 22:05.30 | korhalf | on /etc/modules |
| 22:05.35 | SimonRaven | don't paste here |
| 22:06.04 | jonkri | shingouz: i cleared my apt cache directory earlier, and i don't want to retrieve two or three packages, but like a hundred, among them gnome, which has LOTS of dependencies i need to download |
| 22:06.12 | nvz | SimonRaven: so whats with the extra vowels lately? |
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| 22:06.38 | SimonRaven | nvz: felt like it |
| 22:06.45 | korhalf | so what do i do now? |
| 22:06.55 | korhalf | chris@linuxbox:~$ lsmod | grep scsi |
| 22:06.56 | korhalf | ide-scsi 8272 0 |
| 22:06.57 | SimonRaven | zed |
| 22:07.01 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 22:07.06 | jonkri | i just want to download (--download-only) a package and it's dependencies, but i already got the package, and it's dependency installed |
| 22:07.14 | shingouz | jonkri: but you already have it installed? why download the packages in the first place. i do not know how to solve that problem |
| 22:07.18 | enveezee | SimonRaven: oh well. I can do that too :P |
| 22:07.26 | punkass | i have a debian box with two nic cards in it...some times they work fine..but many times..if i bring up eth2 (my ISP) its fine, but then bring up eth1( local LAN) it then kills eth2 |
| 22:07.27 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 22:07.29 | punkass | any thoughts? |
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| 22:07.41 | jonkri | shingouz: i want to create a pool/main structure that will be used outside of my running system |
| 22:07.44 | korhalf | execuse me?! |
| 22:07.44 | enveezee | SimonRaven: I picked up 5 e's beat that :) |
| 22:07.46 | korhalf | can anyone help?! |
| 22:07.47 | shingouz | korhalf: did you read the cd-burning howto already? it is all there for a 2.5 kernel |
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| 22:07.56 | korhalf | no, im not aware such documentation exists |
| 22:07.57 | korhalf | i googled |
| 22:08.01 | korhalf | and got nothing really, thats why i came here |
| 22:08.06 | korhalf | and i havea 2.4 kernel |
| 22:08.15 | Crell | How do I determine which package provided a given file? |
| 22:08.17 | SimonRaven | enveezee: 4, s/zee/zed/ |
| 22:08.42 | shingouz | jonkri: there is some apt-mirror or something, i fail to remember its name at the moment |
| 22:08.51 | martman | after my install the first boot wizard thingy didn start, how can i start it? |
| 22:09.09 | Crell | martman: base-config |
| 22:09.20 | martman | thanks |
| 22:09.22 | Crell | np |
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| 22:09.37 | enveezee | you know I think this irssi doesnt try my first nick if I get booted with my alternate_nick |
| 22:09.42 | shingouz | korhalf: make your bootloader ignore the ide drive in favor of the ide-scsi. afaik the ignore line does not go into /etc/modules. read the damn howto, it is all there |
| 22:09.48 | jonkri | shingouz: thank you, but i'll do this by hand |
| 22:09.52 | Crell | How do I determine which package provided a given file? |
| 22:10.00 | jonkri | shingouz: i just wanted to ask if there was like a switch i could use |
| 22:10.01 | enveezee | they have scripts to make sure your nicks are right.. but vanilla irssi doesnt handle them too well |
| 22:10.05 | jonkri | shingouz: thanks :) |
| 22:10.27 | SimonRaven | i use keepnick |
| 22:10.54 | enveezee | also irssi in debian should like come packaged with scriptassist. its like apt for irssi |
| 22:10.56 | SimonRaven | it's ignored when it isn't present, or commented out. simple |
| 22:11.19 | SimonRaven | enveezee: propose it to the packagers |
| 22:11.34 | SimonRaven | anyway, GTG |
| 22:11.49 | enveezee | SimonRaven: why so they can come up with good reasons why its not going to happen :P |
| 22:12.02 | korhalf | whats the link to the how to shingouz ? |
| 22:12.16 | SimonRaven | no, so they can drop a copy into /usr/bin or /usr/share/doc/foo |
| 22:12.41 | shingouz | korhalf: tldp has it at least. |
| 22:12.41 | enveezee | hmm.. |
| 22:13.28 | SimonRaven | anyway, the scripts from the site are in irssi-scripts |
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| 22:13.39 | SimonRaven | !info irssi-scripts |
| 22:13.42 | dpkg | irssi-scripts: (collection of scripts for irssi), section net, is optional. Version: 20050609 (sid), Packaged size: 662 kB, Installed size: 3496 kB |
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| 22:15.01 | enveezee | I still need some simple way of shrinking music files to go onto my player. says it supports MP3, WMA, and WAV. I havent tried to make sure it wouldnt play others.. all I got is mp3 and ogg and I only tried mp3. I've started trimming tracks with audacity but it doesnt help much. |
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| 22:15.05 | Eno_ | i have a kodak digital camera that shows up in dmesg, but beyond that gphoto2 or gtkam dont detect it -- is there a module i might need to load? (usb mass storage? whats it called?) |
| 22:15.40 | Gnea | Eno_: what's the model#? |
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| 22:15.50 | enveezee | I will get some 512MB cards for it in a week or two when my credit is payed and clear, but until then I want to cram at least 30 tracks onto the built-in memory |
| 22:16.04 | zinx | Eno_: usb_storage |
| 22:16.05 | kingtux | hello all |
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| 22:16.18 | kingtux | Have some questions about debian |
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| 22:16.43 | kingtux | I'm comming from using suse,redhat,whitebox,solaris,slackware |
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| 22:16.51 | Eno_ | zinx: it shows up now :] |
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| 22:16.55 | kingtux | but i still haven't found the right DISTRO for me |
| 22:17.10 | kingtux | I'm looking to run all server services on my sever |
| 22:17.20 | FieldySnuts | i just added 1GB ram to my already existing 512MB ram, and I only see 1GB in linux. the bios sees the full 1.5GB. i'm thinking i need highmem support, however I could have sworn that was for 4GB and above |
| 22:17.26 | stew | kingtux: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 22:17.32 | zinx | kingtux: All?? What possible reason could you have to run all of them? |
| 22:17.45 | LaidBack_01 | hey, the gentoo distro can't run mysql 4.1.x (server/client) and php5.x because of dependency issues. Does this hold true for the Debian distro too? Or can I use phpmyadmin for my mysql 4.1 databases in debian? |
| 22:17.47 | stew | FieldySnuts: there are two himem settings, 1-4gb and 4-64gb |
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| 22:17.52 | kingtux | well I just tried them for a few months |
| 22:17.58 | kingtux | some are used in production |
| 22:17.59 | enveezee | should be able to fit about 100 average size 3-6min songs at 128-160kbs MP3 on 512MB, but I am lucky to get 25 or so on the 128mb builtin |
| 22:18.01 | FieldySnuts | kingtux: the more services you run, the higher chance you will have of being exploited (rooted). bad idea. |
| 22:18.03 | kingtux | soma arant |
| 22:18.10 | Gnea | LaidBack_01: works fine here |
| 22:18.17 | LaidBack_01 | Gnea, good to hear! |
| 22:18.20 | Eno_ | zinx: thanks so much! |
| 22:18.30 | FieldySnuts | stew: ah. |
| 22:18.34 | Gnea | LaidBack_01: are you compiling by hand or rolling packages? |
| 22:18.41 | kingtux | I just wanted to know if debian is a really solid distro |
| 22:18.47 | FieldySnuts | yes, it is |
| 22:18.52 | Gnea | kingtux: quite so |
| 22:18.55 | kingtux | might give ti a try |
| 22:19.03 | zinx | LaidBack_01: it depends somewhat indirectly on mysql 4.0.24-10 |
| 22:19.08 | Gnea | kingtux: what do you want to be able to do? |
| 22:19.08 | kingtux | what about hardware issues |
| 22:19.19 | Gnea | kingtux: that's all kernel-based |
| 22:19.25 | FieldySnuts | kingtux: hardware issues mostly are not distro specific, as it is the kernel that deals with hardware |
| 22:19.38 | kingtux | well on one server will be pbx system |
| 22:19.38 | LaidBack_01 | Gnea, well, for ease of administration I tend to stick with the package amangers on linux for daily use servers. However, home machyines, I do about 50/50 from tarballs or souce. |
| 22:19.47 | kingtux | other nfs/web/dns |
| 22:19.50 | kingtux | in my lab |
| 22:20.09 | Gnea | LaidBack_01: nod |
| 22:20.35 | stew | FieldySnuts: and it looks like etch's 2.6 kernel has the HIGHMEM4G (1-4gb) settin by default, and sarge did for SMP kernels |
| 22:21.14 | FieldySnuts | i roll my own kernels, and did not have above 1GB before, so it's in my hands. being taken care of right now |
| 22:21.25 | kingtux | does debian come with reiserfs compiled in the kernel |
| 22:21.26 | kingtux | ?? |
| 22:21.41 | FieldySnuts | probably, at least for 3.6 |
| 22:21.47 | kingtux | I have a data partition that is reiser |
| 22:21.51 | kingtux | needs to be mounted |
| 22:21.52 | stew | kingtux: yes |
| 22:22.03 | kingtux | what is the lastest release of debian |
| 22:22.04 | kingtux | ?? |
| 22:22.07 | kingtux | serg |
| 22:22.08 | kingtux | ?? |
| 22:22.12 | stew | !sarge |
| 22:22.12 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 22:22.13 | kingtux | sarge |
| 22:22.13 | enveezee | kingtux: the Debian-Installer supports that and other filesystems. so it must be able to use it or boot from it |
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| 22:22.36 | kingtux | cool |
| 22:22.40 | MarcN | what package blanks the console? |
| 22:22.50 | enveezee | MarcN: none |
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| 22:22.54 | FieldySnuts | setterm controls that or something |
| 22:23.00 | kingtux | whats the best way to install it?? |
| 22:23.09 | enveezee | MarcN: man setterm |
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| 22:23.30 | kingtux | best way to install debian |
| 22:23.30 | shingouz | !tell kingtux about d-i |
| 22:23.41 | Gnea | kingtux: best way for you? |
| 22:23.49 | enveezee | kingtux: rube goldberg install.. |
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| 22:23.59 | shingouz | enveezee: hehe |
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| 22:24.22 | enveezee | dpkg, rube goldberg install |
| 22:24.22 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 22:24.59 | stew | kingtux: /msg dpkg netinst ; /msg dpkg ig |
| 22:25.42 | Morti | I'm having iptables issues. I need to allow data on port 443 to one host but I can't figure out how. |
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| 22:26.35 | mattes | df |
| 22:26.55 | Gnea | mattes: 0k |
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| 22:27.56 | Diablo_ | hi |
| 22:28.14 | enveezee | lil bit |
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| 22:28.29 | Diablo_ | how i can create a louncher to open a terminal and exec the counter strike server? |
| 22:28.39 | kingtux | how many cd's are sarge release |
| 22:28.49 | enveezee | Diablo_: what kind of launcher? |
| 22:29.01 | enveezee | Diablo_: and do you really want the terminal window? |
| 22:29.02 | LaidBack_01 | okay, I need to do a remote build of debian in a chroot - anyone have some quick instructions on that? |
| 22:29.18 | FieldySnuts | yes. not to do it remote. |
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| 22:29.39 | enveezee | kingtux: 14 and a half IIRC |
| 22:29.49 | enveezee | kingtux: two dvd images |
| 22:29.58 | enveezee | kingtux: or one netinstall |
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| 22:30.07 | Diablo_ | enveezee, a Desktop launcher the cs server is managed in a terminal and a i need it open |
| 22:30.19 | enveezee | Diablo_: for gnome or kde? |
| 22:30.22 | kingtux | jesus |
| 22:30.27 | kingtux | 14 disk |
| 22:30.29 | kingtux | how big |
| 22:30.30 | enveezee | yes my son? |
| 22:30.31 | kingtux | ?? |
| 22:30.33 | Diablo_ | enveezee, gnome |
| 22:30.35 | s_ward | !jesus |
| 22:30.35 | dpkg | somebody said jesus was cool, or apparently now EMACS (see emacs) |
| 22:30.40 | kingtux | holy crap |
| 22:30.48 | FieldySnuts | ~start a world war |
| 22:30.48 | apt | USA should nuke North Korea! |
| 22:30.58 | enveezee | Diablo_: right click the nautilus desktop, goto "Create Launcher" |
| 22:31.00 | FieldySnuts | d'oh |
| 22:31.28 | enveezee | use the command "x-terminal-emulator -e counterstrike-server" |
| 22:31.32 | enveezee | Diablo_: or whatever |
| 22:31.39 | Diablo_ | aja |
| 22:31.47 | enveezee | the damn launcher dialog wont come up for me, so I dont know wtf it looks like |
| 22:32.03 | kingtux | net istall same thing as cds?? |
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| 22:32.09 | liyang | Does anyone use mpd (musicpd.org) or glurp? |
| 22:32.22 | enveezee | kingtux: netinstall comes in two forms, with or without the base |
| 22:32.45 | enveezee | kingtux: both are cd images. usually around 30-150mb or so |
| 22:32.54 | kingtux | 14 cd's |
| 22:32.57 | enveezee | kingtux: there are floppy and netboot options as well, but I never done that |
| 22:33.04 | kingtux | holy crap |
| 22:33.12 | kingtux | take me a week to download |
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| 22:33.47 | enveezee | kingtux: I did the "Desktop System" from Tasksel completly and that installs ALL of X, KDE, GNOME, and much much more.. and got that all off the first 5 cds |
| 22:33.48 | cookiemonster | what could cause a system _not_ to shut down on shutdown -h now? |
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| 22:33.53 | Jaker_ | kingtux, you need only one cd when doing a net install |
| 22:34.17 | enveezee | kingtux: though some cool packages I like arent even on the first 5. like the fish fillets game for example :P |
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| 22:34.29 | Crell | Grrr.. OK, I have a reasonably fresh Sarge installation. Apache 2, and libapache2-mod-php4 are both installed. I have restarted apache. PHP file are still being sent through to the browser rather than parsed. Any ideas why? |
| 22:34.39 | enveezee | kingtux: if you have a net connection you dont have to install from cd. you can use the netinstall and install directly from the internet as you need things |
| 22:34.43 | Crell | I have symlinked the two php4 files from mods-available to mods-enabled. |
| 22:34.48 | Paganist | Hi everyone ! Where is there a log of dpkg, i been off from internet a long time and i upgrade my system but i get this and i'd like to know why: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 |
| 22:34.50 | FieldySnuts | Mem: 1555820k total |
| 22:34.52 | FieldySnuts | there we go |
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| 22:35.16 | stew | Paganist: there is no log for dpkg |
| 22:35.27 | stew | Paganist: what version of debian? |
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| 22:36.55 | Paganist | stew: sarge |
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| 22:37.15 | liyang | I've updated glurp to the latest 0.11.6 which was released at the beginning of June. Could someone have a look at my packaging / upload it? |
| 22:37.29 | Paganist | How can i investigate this ? |
| 22:37.34 | enveezee | kingtux: only packages I recall comming off cd 5 from the "Desktop System" task were hal, and udev. so you could install x and all of gnome and kde, minus a few odd ends like hal and udev with only the first 4 cds. and could probably even get most important things with 1-3 cds if you had to do cd installs. I prefer to netinstall whenever possible. burning cds is so 1990's |
| 22:38.01 | honschu | I just want to look at the picture, why doesn't this work: "gzip -dc /usr/share/doc/gs-gpl/examples/tiger.eps.gz | gv" |
| 22:38.02 | stew | Paganist: does it say what package? have you tried apt-get -f install ; and/or: dpkg --configure -a ? |
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| 22:38.16 | Paganist | stew: i will |
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| 22:38.50 | Paganist | it is just that "error 10" recalls me proprietary crap when compan9ies didn't want users to know what error happened |
| 22:38.52 | kingtux | yeah i'm download netinstall right now |
| 22:38.58 | Paganist | so you can't fix yourself |
| 22:39.03 | Paganist | cryptic |
| 22:39.20 | Paganist | stew: am gonna try this, thanks |
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| 22:40.46 | xerophyte | How easy to use LDAP? |
| 22:40.54 | ids | easy peasy |
| 22:40.55 | enveezee | kingtux: I usually go for the netinstall with base. because in rare situations you cannot get network during first-stage install, it helps to have base on cd, so you can at least boot to a running system before you _need_ network |
| 22:41.05 | Paganist | stew: even with this, i get the same |
| 22:41.16 | Paganist | error 10 |
| 22:41.36 | enveezee | kingtux: cheap wifi card you had to use ndiswrapper and build modules for may be an example |
| 22:42.01 | enveezee | never actually happened to me.. but its worth downloading the extra stuff for I think |
| 22:43.02 | kingtux | with base is an option when ur in the netinstall right?? |
| 22:43.02 | liyang | okay... so no one cares then. *shrug* |
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| 22:43.02 | enveezee | kingtux: some netinstalls are really small isos like 30mb or so.. and others are 100mb or more as they also contain all the base packages needed to boot the system |
| 22:43.02 | homecable | how do i see what packs are install ? |
| 22:43.11 | emptty | Does anyone how the text version of the dwn are generated before sending to debian-news? |
| 22:43.21 | kingtux | oh ok |
| 22:43.27 | stew | Paganist: you need to figure out what package it's complaining about |
| 22:43.39 | Paganist | stew: alsa-base |
| 22:43.56 | enveezee | kingtux: the really light ones have to d/l even the base system from the net during fisrt stage install.. this requires autodetection of the network device and settings usually |
| 22:44.03 | kingtux | Do you usually install all packages throught netinstall or after the install |
| 22:44.32 | Crell | I always install extra packages after the install. |
| 22:44.36 | stew | Paganist: see if you can remove that package or --reinstall that package |
| 22:44.46 | Paganist | stew: ok, trying |
| 22:44.51 | Crell | The "task"s in the new installer are way too big. They'll pull down hundreds of megs I don't need. |
| 22:44.58 | ind- | hello i get errors starting programs like kvirc or amarok.. this is an error: error loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: error 14 .. what i have to do? |
| 22:45.03 | liyang | Well, glurp 0.11.6 is up at http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~lh04/debian/ if anyone cares. |
| 22:45.07 | stew | Crell: so ditch them and just use aptitude / apt-get |
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| 22:45.11 | cartel_ | hey all |
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| 22:45.23 | cartel_ | anyone know how to change the administrative address cron sends stuff to? |
| 22:45.26 | cartel_ | from root@ to something else? |
| 22:45.28 | enveezee | kingtux: I normally do stage one which is basically setting keyboard and language, partition/format, copy base, kernel and bootloader then reboot and go through base-config then I skip tasksel and aptitude and just login as root on console and go from there |
| 22:45.37 | abrotman | cartel_: man cron |
| 22:45.45 | ind- | is there anyone who can help me? |
| 22:45.52 | kingtux | ok great, |
| 22:46.03 | enveezee | kingtux: I usually get screen, irssi, a better editor than nano, lsof, less..etc some essentials to get be started then just install as needed |
| 22:46.09 | jetx | no nobody can help you're helpless |
| 22:46.10 | kingtux | I'll try this....I'll be back if i need some help |
| 22:46.10 | abrotman | nvz! |
| 22:46.15 | kingtux | thanks for the info |
| 22:46.18 | enveezee | kingtux: that way I have shit to do while the rest of the system is fetched |
| 22:46.21 | ind- | ?? |
| 22:46.26 | enveezee | kingtux: install bsdgames or something :P |
| 22:46.31 | jetx | laugh, damn you! |
| 22:46.37 | abrotman | !pal jetx |
| 22:46.44 | kingtux | cool |
| 22:47.03 | ids | Hi. I keep getting the error: dpkg: error processing bash (--configure): subprocess post-installatiion script returned error exit status 1.... any ideas? |
| 22:47.06 | enveezee | abrotman: I updated the yinzersmite a little.. added like 3 more.. trying hard to think of better ones |
| 22:47.15 | Crell | stew: That's what I do. :-) |
| 22:47.18 | ind- | hey guys? |
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| 22:47.20 | abrotman | !yinzersmite enveezee |
| 22:47.26 | homecable | how do i remove ? rpc.statd |
| 22:47.27 | enveezee | abrotman: yinzers use a lot of pronouns, and as greycat showed me those arent good in a smite |
| 22:47.28 | jetx | !yinzersmite abrotman |
| 22:47.36 | abrotman | i need more philly smites |
| 22:47.58 | abrotman | hehe .. gian iggle |
| 22:48.20 | ind- | hello i get errors starting programs like kvirc or amarok.. this is an error: error loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: error 14 .. what i have to do? |
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| 22:48.33 | abrotman | ind-: install it ? |
| 22:48.40 | abrotman | !find libcrypto.so.0.9.7 sarge |
| 22:48.46 | Paganist | stew: uninstalled and tried reinstall, won't work |
| 22:48.47 | test_ | how do i change gnome session properties without logging in to that question? |
| 22:48.51 | stew | ind-: paste your sources.list into #flood |
| 22:48.52 | Gnea | hey guys |
| 22:48.57 | ind- | what is the package? |
| 22:48.58 | abrotman | Gnea: you're alive! |
| 22:48.58 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libcrypto.so.0.9.7' (1): (/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7, /usr/lib/i486/libcrypto.so.0.9.7, /usr/lib/i586/libcrypto.so.0.9.7) in libs/libssl0.9.7. |
| 22:49.01 | Gnea | how many people use debian? |
| 22:49.02 | abrotman | ind-: ^^ |
| 22:49.06 | abrotman | Gnea: three |
| 22:49.07 | Gnea | abrotman: heh yeah |
| 22:49.10 | ind- | k |
| 22:49.15 | abrotman | Gnea: oh .. and Grand Moff Tarkin |
| 22:49.20 | Crell | Gnea: One... hundred... billion... people... |
| 22:49.20 | enveezee | heh |
| 22:49.24 | cartel_ | abrotman: ahh yep... MAILTO variable |
| 22:49.29 | RvGaTe | how can i check which users i have on my debian system...? |
| 22:49.31 | cartel_ | abrotman: wonder if it accepts /dev/null |
| 22:49.33 | abrotman | cartel_: yay .. you can read ... |
| 22:49.36 | cartel_ | RvGaTe: getent passwd |
| 22:49.37 | abrotman | !prize cartel_ |
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| 22:49.46 | abrotman | cartel_: use nobody .. nobody's mail goes to dev/null |
| 22:49.50 | test_ | does anybody know that? |
| 22:49.51 | test_ | how do i change gnome session properties without logging in to that question? |
| 22:49.52 | Paganist | well, i will have to wait next week to fix this, i got to go, be back in a week |
| 22:49.53 | cartel_ | abrotman: thanks |
| 22:50.00 | Paganist | stew: thanks for your help |
| 22:50.04 | RvGaTe | cartel_: thx |
| 22:50.11 | abrotman | hrm .. pizza sounds yummy |
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| 22:50.13 | ind- | abrotman, i have this file installed |
| 22:50.17 | stew | Paganist: your next step is to try to bypass the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info that's failing |
| 22:50.19 | abrotman | of course .. so does shrimp scampi |
| 22:50.20 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah actually it does |
| 22:50.21 | stew | Paganist: or fix it |
| 22:50.35 | enveezee | abrotman: you ever had what us yinzers call "police station pizza"? |
| 22:50.45 | abrotman | Gnea: considering i spent like .. $300+ dollars last weekend .. i'll probably not be ordering :) |
| 22:50.52 | Gnea | abrotman: that's it? ;) |
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| 22:50.57 | abrotman | Gnea: and that's $300+ on things i couldn't bring home :) |
| 22:51.02 | Gnea | abrotman: i just spent over $1500 |
| 22:51.04 | abrotman | enveezee: not that i'm aware |
| 22:51.13 | abrotman | Gnea: and you were on vacation or you brought it home .. right ? |
| 22:51.19 | Gnea | abrotman: moved out of wi |
| 22:51.24 | abrotman | Gnea: where to! |
| 22:51.27 | abrotman | !phillysmite Gnea |
| 22:51.29 | Gnea | abrotman: az |
| 22:51.33 | abrotman | Gnea: i'm sorry |
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| 22:51.46 | abrotman | and look Wyzard is here too! |
| 22:51.52 | Gnea | abrotman: well i had to do *something* |
| 22:51.52 | abrotman | Gnea: see .. you kind of take it with you .. |
| 22:52.09 | ind- | abrotman, this error happened when i did an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:52.13 | abrotman | Gnea: i spent mine on beer/food/ferries/gas/drinks and a single shirt |
| 22:52.17 | abrotman | ind-: /msg dpkg paste |
| 22:52.21 | Gnea | abrotman: heh |
| 22:52.35 | abrotman | i think the beer cost the most |
| 22:52.40 | enveezee | abrotman: its the Pizza House in ambridge (american bridge) about 20mi north 65 from da' berg. the police station used to be next door.. thats why we call it that |
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| 22:52.45 | driver | salut |
| 22:52.47 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah, i got all moved in, slept, then hopped a flight to SF |
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| 22:52.58 | abrotman | enveezee: oh . a bit up past sewickley? |
| 22:53.05 | abrotman | Gnea: new job? |
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| 22:53.11 | Gnea | abrotman: *nodnod* |
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| 22:53.16 | abrotman | Gnea: i need one of those :) |
| 22:53.33 | Aonix | hey? Which imap server should I install with debian apt-get tool? :) |
| 22:53.37 | Gnea | abrotman: well, i was tired of non-IT ;) |
| 22:53.45 | abrotman | Gnea: oh .. i have an IT job |
| 22:53.51 | enveezee | abrotman: original italian-style pizza. little family-run operation. .they sneak in the back about 12noon and sit back there making homade sausage, peperoni, sause, crusts..etc and at about 5pm they open up and slang pizza out $0.70 a piece until 11pm or they run out whichever comes first |
| 22:53.55 | cartel_ | :) |
| 22:54.00 | abrotman | Gnea: anything worth mentioning ? |
| 22:54.03 | stew | courier is great until you start receiving email that is at all out of spec |
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| 22:54.09 | abrotman | cartel_: you suck! .. give me back my prize! |
| 22:54.10 | cartel_ | courier is great until you start using it |
| 22:54.11 | enveezee | abrotman: yeah past Sewickley, Edgeworth and Leetsdale |
| 22:54.22 | cartel_ | abrotman: shared folders :)? |
| 22:54.24 | Gnea | abrotman: well, it will be |
| 22:54.30 | abrotman | enveezee: i've been to sewickley .. and a place farther up |
| 22:54.30 | cartel_ | abrotman: cant argue with me anymore huh? |
| 22:54.30 | enveezee | abrotman: and the little community affectionatly called "Fair Oaks" |
| 22:54.32 | abrotman | cartel_: what about it ? |
| 22:54.32 | cartel_ | :p |
| 22:54.35 | Aonix | well, any other software BUT courier? |
| 22:54.42 | cartel_ | Aonix: cyrus |
| 22:54.44 | abrotman | cartel_: you can't make them work? |
| 22:54.46 | stew | i'm in the process of ditching courier becuase i'm tired of the author rejecting my patches that fix courier when dealing with broken emails |
| 22:55.00 | cartel_ | abrotman: i can make them work to couriers broke-ass idea of working |
| 22:55.01 | abrotman | stew: broken emails should be rejected :) |
| 22:55.05 | Aonix | cartel_ I can install it via apt-get? |
| 22:55.06 | stew | aparantly courier's author lives in some utopia where all emails are well formed |
| 22:55.06 | abrotman | i like courier |
| 22:55.13 | abrotman | Aonix: apt-cache search imapd |
| 22:55.21 | stew | abrotman: tell that to my clients who are getting broken email from their clients |
| 22:55.27 | Fanno | if i want to start a program at start up i place a script in init.d that contain the commands to start the program ? |
| 22:55.34 | cartel_ | Aonix: cyrus21-imapd |
| 22:55.40 | abrotman | stew: no .. you tell thier clients to get a decent mail server :) |
| 22:55.41 | stew | Aonix: dovecot |
| 22:55.47 | abrotman | uw-imapd |
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| 22:55.48 | cartel_ | abrotman: i used to like it until we deployed it to someone who makes use of shared folders |
| 22:55.52 | stew | abrotman: believe me, i wish i could |
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| 22:56.02 | abrotman | stew: get them to be your clients |
| 22:56.09 | abrotman | :) |
| 22:56.15 | cartel_ | abrotman: then my quality of life took a dive |
| 22:56.25 | abrotman | cartel_: dunno .. i've used them ... |
| 22:56.34 | stew | abrotman: i don't want them as clients, i would probably have to go onsite and i would probably be murdered |
| 22:56.36 | enveezee | abrotman: yeah Sewickley is alright. little town but its all there. Hospital, YMCA, Starbucks, Brugers, Monte Cellos, Pizza Roma, Fox's, Baskin Robins, Public Library with free movie/music rental and internet, banks, bars, clothing stores.. you name it. |
| 22:56.38 | cartel_ | abrotman: maybe not in the way we were |
| 22:56.47 | cartel_ | abrotman: plus we were using qmail |
| 22:56.56 | jetx | Fanno: yes, but then you would need a symlink in /etc/rc.2 (or man sysvinit) |
| 22:56.57 | abrotman | stew: hit them with a yinzersmite! |
| 22:56.57 | prock | does anyone know of a hardware router that does dialup as well as broadband? |
| 22:57.00 | enveezee | abrotman: lots of rich folk and car dealerships. BMW, Porche, Bentley. |
| 22:57.06 | abrotman | enveezee: i've been there .. i know :) |
| 22:57.06 | cartel_ | abrotman: which is probably half the problem right there :p |
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| 22:57.17 | abrotman | cartel_: i'll blame qmail way before courier |
| 22:57.31 | abrotman | qmail is like .. hot sweaty donkey balls on your nose .. nothing good about it |
| 22:57.35 | jetx | car dealerships like windows for workstations :/ |
| 22:57.54 | Fanno | jetx: if i want to find a tutorial teaching me how to do this ( for beginners ) what would i search for ? |
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| 22:58.52 | trend | what is a good irc client? I cannot use irssi.. itis screwy |
| 22:59.03 | abrotman | irssi-text |
| 22:59.05 | abrotman | xchat |
| 22:59.07 | abrotman | that's it |
| 22:59.13 | abrotman | and irssi is far preferred |
| 22:59.22 | abrotman | bitchx is for weenies |
| 22:59.26 | trend | i like irssi, but it isn't working right at all.......... |
| 22:59.27 | enveezee | abrotman: you got to have some police station pizza, its good. people come from all over to get it. |
| 22:59.34 | abrotman | trend: define not working |
| 22:59.39 | trend | i only have the last line updated.. it just keeps getting overwritten |
| 22:59.43 | abrotman | enveezee: i'd have to go visit my brother |
| 22:59.44 | trend | by the new content |
| 22:59.49 | abrotman | trend: bad terminal |
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| 23:00.12 | abrotman | trend: which terminal are you using ? |
| 23:00.14 | enveezee | I may go to the Primadonna tomorrow since its my birthday.. I havent been there since they changed ownership don't know if its still good |
| 23:00.16 | trend | i have tried gnome-terminal, then aterm.. both do the same.. actually aterm worked for 10minues or so.. now it is back to the way gnome-term works |
| 23:00.22 | ryoohki | how can I remove force the removal of a package? |
| 23:00.48 | abrotman | trend: hit ctrl-l |
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| 23:00.52 | abrotman | ryoohki: force why? |
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| 23:00.58 | trend | uhrm |
| 23:01.00 | stew | ryoohki: why can't you remove it normally? |
| 23:01.02 | abrotman | enveezee: primanti bros! |
| 23:01.25 | enveezee | bah |
| 23:01.26 | trend | yeah, that helps..but it isn't dynamic.. new content is still overwritten onj the same line.. but it does display the history above |
| 23:01.34 | sussudio | enveezee: what do you need those logs for |
| 23:01.36 | trend | know what i mean? Is this justa a 'feature'? |
| 23:01.41 | enveezee | actually I probably wont do shit tomoroow |
| 23:01.48 | trend | if so, how can I dissable it? |
| 23:02.13 | enveezee | sussudio: wanted to figure out my where abouts that week. account for the time wasted here and do the math |
| 23:02.19 | sussudio | :-| |
| 23:02.24 | beardy | trend: reset ? |
| 23:02.34 | trend | I have tried reseting many tgimes |
| 23:02.36 | trend | times* |
| 23:02.39 | sussudio | !do math |
| 23:02.46 | sussudio | mreh. |
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| 23:02.53 | abrotman | !do me |
| 23:02.55 | ryoohki | when i say remove file-rc it says sysinit needs to be upgraded, when it tries to upgrade sysvinit it say conflcts with /etc/init.d/README in file-rc !!!? |
| 23:03.00 | sussudio | !factinfo cmd: do (.*?) |
| 23:03.00 | dpkg | CMD: do (.*?) -- last modified at Sun Feb 1 11:37:24 2004 by peterS![qBB1sRBc2@adsl-64-123-113-63.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net. |
| 23:03.02 | cartel_ | hmm |
| 23:03.20 | trend | beardy: any other ideas? |
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| 23:03.33 | sussudio | !any ideas |
| 23:03.33 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of herring, a little K-Y jelly, and a handful of three-legged platypuses. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 23:03.54 | cartel_ | anyone know how to make mdadm create a raid5 array with 2 disks |
| 23:03.55 | beardy | trend: Is this in aterm? What did you do before it went bad? |
| 23:03.58 | sussudio | enveezee: are you going to accept the dcc or what |
| 23:04.00 | enveezee | heh, now a three-legged platypus would look funny |
| 23:04.03 | abrotman | trend: try xterm .. see what happens |
| 23:04.08 | enveezee | oh |
| 23:04.17 | enveezee | I almost never pay attention to that window |
| 23:04.19 | ryoohki | stew? |
| 23:04.19 | trend | I tried xterm also.. but xterm wasn't pretty like aterm |
| 23:04.33 | trend | actually, the only thing I did was setup a .Xdefaults file and populated it with settings |
| 23:04.34 | stew | ryoohki: on sid or sarge or what? |
| 23:04.36 | beardy | trend: Try a new aterm, is it the same? |
| 23:04.39 | abrotman | pretty? |
| 23:04.41 | ryoohki | sagre 3.1 |
| 23:04.43 | trend | beardy: yes same |
| 23:04.43 | Chromance | Is there a debian wireless support list somewhere? hardware support list? can't find it |
| 23:04.46 | abrotman | trend: ok .. try xchat then |
| 23:04.55 | abrotman | Chromance: same as linux |
| 23:05.02 | enveezee | I guess this will work with my firewall off |
| 23:05.06 | beardy | trend: Do you use another font than the default one? |
| 23:05.07 | abrotman | Chromance: are you looking to buy .. or looking to see if yours is supported ? |
| 23:05.09 | trend | xchat is ugly though.. |
| 23:05.12 | enveezee | I've never done dcc get before |
| 23:05.14 | abrotman | oh ffs |
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| 23:05.20 | Chromance | abrotman! both |
| 23:05.23 | abrotman | trend: try bitchx .. then complain about the others :) |
| 23:05.28 | abrotman | Chromance: what kind do you have now ? |
| 23:05.28 | trend | heh |
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| 23:05.40 | stew | !find init.d/README sarge |
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| 23:05.48 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'init.d/README' (2): (/etc/init.d/README) in admin/file-rc,base/sysv-rc ;; (/usr/lib/mozilla/init.d/README) in web/mozilla-browser. |
| 23:05.50 | chealer | Chromance: no |
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| 23:06.01 | sussudio | !fist root____1 |
| 23:06.15 | abrotman | !tell root____1 about root |
| 23:06.29 | ryoohki | stew: huh? |
| 23:06.48 | Chromance | Abrotman ! Dell 1350 wireless which uses the broadcom chipset ! pain in the ass to setup! I want a card that will be detected and work from install. |
| 23:06.56 | trend | looks like xterm works fine |
| 23:07.00 | abrotman | Chromance: a/b/g ? |
| 23:07.11 | Scorpaen | !tell scorpaen about java |
| 23:07.15 | stew | ryoohki: can you do something like apt-get install sysvinit sysv-rc file-rc- |
| 23:07.17 | bartden | hi i just installed debian with kernel 2.6. When i boot my first time i get an error i810_audio : cant be loaded missing kernel |
| 23:07.23 | Chromance | abrotman , don't matter. |
| 23:07.29 | bartden | or user mode driver i810_audio |
| 23:07.30 | Chromance | Abrotman ! G maybe |
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| 23:07.32 | abrotman | Chromance: sure it does .. |
| 23:07.34 | Scorpaen | !install java |
| 23:07.34 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? If you're in sarge or sid, ask me about <java-package>. If you're in woody, grab java-package manually from http://packages.debian.org/java-package and then ask me about <java-package> for instructions on how to use it. Also, ask me about <java-package howto> |
| 23:07.34 | stew | ryoohki: which says upgrade the first two and remove the last all at once |
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| 23:07.57 | Chromance | ? |
| 23:07.59 | chealer | Chromance: even ethernet broadcom sucks. of course ethernet broadcom is a nightmare |
| 23:08.00 | ryoohki | stew: "file-rc-" ? |
| 23:08.02 | Scorpaen | !java-package |
| 23:08.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, java-package is the new name for mpkg-j2se... err, I mean j2se-package... DAMN IT, CAN'T THEY PICK A NAME?! Anyway, it lets you build a .deb file from Sun's non-free upstream Java distributions. See "man make-jpkg". Cf. "make-kpkg" (from kernel-package).only in sarge and sid currently, but it's a -all package, so it's safe to use it in woody. This packages lives in 'contrib', so make sure you have that in your sources.list. ... |
| 23:08.10 | stew | ryoohki: yes, - means remove |
| 23:08.19 | abrotman | Chromance: linux-wlan.org maybe ? |
| 23:08.26 | stew | stop. showertime </hammer> |
| 23:08.30 | Chromance | k |
| 23:08.46 | cartel_ | hmm |
| 23:08.51 | abrotman | Chromance: then google to make sure |
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| 23:09.56 | chealer | Chromance: s/course ethernet/course wireless |
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| 23:10.00 | Fanno | what would i be serching for when i want to find a tutorial that teach me how to start up a program at computer start. |
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| 23:10.30 | Fanno | i meen dos it have a "special" tech name ? |
| 23:10.34 | abrotman | Fanno: /etc/init.d/README |
| 23:10.34 | enveezee | sussudio: thanks. took me until now to realize I am in the wrong timezone |
| 23:11.03 | sussudio | enveezee: yes. bad timezone. |
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| 23:12.07 | bartden | hi i just installed debian with kernel 2.6. When i boot my first time i get an error i810_audio : cant be loaded missing kernel or user mode driver i810_audio |
| 23:12.24 | enveezee | what time is it there now? like 10 after midnight? |
| 23:12.27 | tombs | hi ppl |
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| 23:13.04 | enveezee | sussudio: what time is it there now, 10 after midnight? |
| 23:13.24 | RvGaTe | When doing shell_exec() using php... what user will it use to do execute it? (running sarge, apache2)? (if im in the wrong channel, tell me) |
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| 23:13.34 | sussudio | enveezee: 01:13 |
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| 23:13.58 | enveezee | damn. later than I thought |
| 23:14.12 | dondelelcaro | RvGaTe: generally /bin/sh |
| 23:14.20 | enveezee | so I guess thats 6 hours difference |
| 23:15.22 | abrotman | RvGaTe: might get a better answer from #php |
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| 23:15.53 | chealer | RvGaTe: I'd guess www-data |
| 23:15.54 | RvGaTe | abrotman: i tried there, but they give me 'useless' anwer like: 'apache2 user' |
| 23:16.03 | beardy | RvGaTe: The same user that runs apache and php? |
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| 23:16.16 | enveezee | I left for work around 11am on Monday July 18. probably because the week before was the only one I got paid in full for so far.. and I left early because I had money to actually do something |
| 23:16.27 | abrotman | ok |
| 23:16.41 | enveezee | I cant remember what I do half the time.. but now I remember |
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| 23:17.25 | Crell | Has anyone used a web hosting control panel that they can recommend? |
| 23:17.26 | enveezee | I need my logs working again. got to clean up my homedir. I get into a habbit of not restoring backups of my homedir when I move around.. and I got like 5 or more homedirs inside one another |
| 23:17.33 | raphxl | hi |
| 23:18.13 | qjb | It seems like this should be a FAQ, but I'm not able to find a clear resolution....I have a SATA hard drive and a PATA CDROM drive. With the 2.6.11 kernel (and older 2.6 kernels) I am not able to see the CD-ROM, but I can see it with the 2.4 kernel. Is there something obvious I'm missing? MOre information avaiable. |
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| 23:18.30 | enveezee | it kind of bothers me having this many letters in my name. it almost takes away from how many I type |
| 23:18.31 | beardy | RvGaTe: execute 'whoami > somefile' with shell_exec() and look what it says perhaps? |
| 23:18.45 | RvGaTe | beardy: completely forgot that, thx |
| 23:19.08 | xfan | Crell : www.prodominios.com |
| 23:19.14 | RvGaTe | www-data |
| 23:19.14 | RvGaTe | hmm |
| 23:19.17 | abrotman | qjb: is it a burner ? |
| 23:19.24 | qjb | no, regular DVD-ROM drive. |
| 23:19.31 | ThePiratemaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.50 | ThePiratemaster | what it that file for and why does it not exist O_O? |
| 23:19.58 | FieldySnuts | ask whoever makes that game, closed source and proprietary, don't bother us with it |
| 23:20.11 | Karhuton | ThePiratemaster, try #cedega |
| 23:20.14 | Crell | xfan: Um, I don't speak Spanish, and I'm not looking for a web hosting service. I'm looking for a web host control panel in order to SET UP a web hosting service. |
| 23:20.36 | ThePiratemaster | Karhuton, this has absolutely nothing to do with cedega? |
| 23:20.41 | abrotman | qjb: `dmesg` doesn't show it at all ? |
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| 23:20.45 | qjb | It seems quite relevant that I'm getting the message "ata2: disabling port" on bootup, but I don't know why. |
| 23:20.54 | Karhuton | ThePiratemaster, #wine then? |
| 23:21.02 | ThePiratemaster | *sigh* |
| 23:21.03 | qjb | dmesg shows the disabling port message, but doesn't see the drive. |
| 23:21.10 | abrotman | ThePiratemaster: it's certainly not debian related .. cstrike is NOT in debian |
| 23:21.12 | unix____ | hi there, i'm at the package installation stage of the debian install, i selected my mirror etc, and i'm at the aptitude page, and i don't know how to select manual package installation. (do i just scroll to it and hit enter?) the documentation doesn't state which keys do what in this point, any ideas? |
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| 23:21.26 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: and with a nick like that he's probably a warez kiddie |
| 23:21.27 | Gnea | !xorg |
| 23:21.27 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg is X.Org X11, implementation of the X Window System, code from XFree86 4.4RC2 plus many improvements. The current release is X11R6.8.2. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/svn/xfree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for info. Now uploaded. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/07/msg00683.html, or see <get xorg> |
| 23:21.29 | ThePiratemaster | its a dedicated linux server that must run on debian |
| 23:21.35 | FieldySnuts | he's not even on the right network for such software |
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| 23:22.13 | abrotman | ThePiratemaster: that's great .. but you're missing a cstrike file .. cstrike isn't in debian |
| 23:22.17 | Karhuton | ThePiratemaster, do you have permission problem then? |
| 23:22.34 | cookiemonster | FieldySnuts: what is someone with your nick, then? :) |
| 23:22.43 | Karhuton | ThePiratemaster, are you running ./steam as root? |
| 23:22.50 | FieldySnuts | cookiemonster: huh? |
| 23:23.02 | ThePiratemaster | no as the user that own the server package as i should |
| 23:23.02 | Karhuton | ThePiratemaster, Try Steam's forums for help on the subject |
| 23:23.03 | cookiemonster | <FieldySnuts> abrotman: and with a nick like that he's probably a warez kiddie |
| 23:23.05 | beardy | ThePiratemaster: It's not free software, and not in debian. Ask the people that you bought it from? |
| 23:23.12 | FieldySnuts | Karhuton: please don't help him with commercial closed source software, we just told him he's in the wrong place. please don't crap on us like that. |
| 23:23.22 | cookiemonster | FieldySnuts: if nomen est omen on irc, that works for you, too :) |
| 23:23.23 | FieldySnuts | send a mixed message then the assholes come back later. |
| 23:23.26 | ThePiratemaster | permissions to the server files are ser 755 that should be no problem |
| 23:23.27 | Karhuton | FieldySnuts, haha :D |
| 23:23.27 | FieldySnuts | cookiemonster: engrish? |
| 23:23.31 | abrotman | ThePiratemaster: counterstrike is NOT in debian .. the problme you're having is NOT debian related |
| 23:23.34 | cookiemonster | though i am not sure what a snuts is ;) |
| 23:23.34 | FieldySnuts | Karhuton: you think i'm joking? |
| 23:23.44 | Karhuton | FieldySnuts, open-source bug bit you? |
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| 23:23.53 | FieldySnuts | Karhuton: this is fucking debian, moron. |
| 23:24.04 | Karhuton | FieldySnuts, behave |
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| 23:24.11 | korhalf | A crap |
| 23:24.11 | thingfish | I think it's supposed to be "fieldy's nuts". |
| 23:24.14 | korhalf | i got scsi emulation working!! |
| 23:24.14 | FieldySnuts | you know, it's people like this that cause the people we tell stuff is offtopic to come back. |
| 23:24.15 | korhalf | but k3b |
| 23:24.19 | korhalf | froze in the middle of a burning process |
| 23:24.20 | FieldySnuts | thanks a lot. |
| 23:24.23 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:24.25 | ThePiratemaster | fieldysnuts, keep it decent :P |
| 23:24.29 | korhalf | and one of the tracks are messed, plus the cd reads the full 15 but it only has 7 |
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| 23:24.33 | korhalf | it didnt properly write |
| 23:24.36 | korhalf | any ideas? |
| 23:24.58 | thingfish | I didn't mean crazy, I meant like cajones. |
| 23:25.00 | Karhuton | ThePiratemaster, goto steampowered.com. Won't get any help here. The forum's are pretty great. And there's always google |
| 23:25.11 | bigred | Hey guys, under heavy load my server shits itself w/ my ethernet card complaining "too much work at interrupt" |
| 23:25.12 | Karhuton | *forums |
| 23:25.17 | cookiemonster | korhalf: if you were using tao, try doa and vice versa |
| 23:25.20 | ThePiratemaster | look i know its propertairy software but if you know any opensource packages for cs (not Cs Source :P) id really like to know |
| 23:25.25 | korhalf | cookiemonster: i think it was SAO |
| 23:25.28 | korhalf | cookiemonster: i used auto |
| 23:25.29 | cookiemonster | korhalf: that's what the programmers usually suggest first |
| 23:25.33 | korhalf | Auto |
| 23:25.36 | ThePiratemaster | and where i can get those packages |
| 23:25.37 | korhalf | i used the defaults, i just selected burn |
| 23:25.38 | beardy | korhalf: Do you use sarge? SCSI emulation is not needed anymore, in sarge, to be able to use a IDE cdburner. (right?) |
| 23:25.38 | cookiemonster | sao? s? |
| 23:25.47 | korhalf | beardy: i have kernel 2.4 |
| 23:25.54 | korhalf | cookiemonster: yeh i think thats what it was |
| 23:25.55 | cookiemonster | beardy: not needed with 2.6 kernels |
| 23:25.56 | stew | beardy: its needed for 2.4 but not 2.6 |
| 23:26.02 | korhalf | i have a 2.4 kernel |
| 23:26.02 | beardy | Ok |
| 23:26.05 | korhalf | and i got scsi working |
| 23:26.07 | cookiemonster | beardy: testing has both, you choose |
| 23:26.08 | Karhuton | ThePiratemaster, there isn't any. And you're thinking debian package versions of the cs server. Not "opensource package" |
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| 23:26.16 | korhalf | like im listneing to the cd, its just on eof the tracks is fucked up and the rest didnt burn properly at all |
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| 23:26.20 | stew | solemnwarning: turn that off please |
| 23:26.24 | cookiemonster | korhalf: never heard of sao |
| 23:26.31 | stew | cookiemonster: session at once |
| 23:26.32 | korhalf | hold on let me check it again |
| 23:26.33 | cookiemonster | korhalf: for me, doa fixed all problems |
| 23:26.41 | cookiemonster | stew: ah, thanks |
| 23:26.42 | korhalf | alright |
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| 23:26.47 | korhalf | should i try that then? does everyone agree |
| 23:26.51 | korhalf | so i dont waste another cd lol |
| 23:26.58 | korhalf | evne tho they're cheap, i dont like wasting shit, im frugal |
| 23:27.00 | Demosthenes | where might i find the package list for the bare bones sarge installation |
| 23:27.08 | cookiemonster | korhalf: cd-rw are there for a reason :) |
| 23:27.20 | thingfish | Demosthenes: packages.debian.org, stable. |
| 23:27.26 | korhalf | cookiemonster: i dont got a cdrw |
| 23:27.27 | shingouz | korhalf: and you can actually burn in dummy mode too |
| 23:27.33 | cookiemonster | Demosthenes: dpkg -l on a new install, too |
| 23:27.40 | korhalf | alright ill try dummy mode right now niggazzz |
| 23:27.46 | cookiemonster | korhalf: get one, i have one esp for stuff like this |
| 23:28.11 | shingouz | korhalf: what was that last word? not a nice one at least |
| 23:28.14 | cookiemonster | korhalf: you could also try to dd if=/dev/hdyourcdrom of=/file.iso and then burn the iso |
| 23:28.24 | FieldySnuts | ~lart korhalf for the racist slang |
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| 23:28.31 | shingouz | cookiemonster: on a 2.4 |
| 23:28.32 | Demosthenes | cookiemonster: i was trying to avoid installing just to find that out ;] |
| 23:28.46 | thingfish | yes thank you, FieldySnuts. |
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| 23:28.50 | korhalf | im black |
| 23:28.52 | cookiemonster | shingouz: 2.4 supports dd, too ;) |
| 23:28.58 | enveezee | oh man that is awesome. I got to keep better logs. took grep and I only a minute or two to recall what I did two weeks ago |
| 23:29.00 | thingfish | oh well if that's true, that's different. |
| 23:29.05 | FieldySnuts | thingfish: course, we all know, if i did that, i'd be banned indefinately |
| 23:29.11 | shingouz | cookiemonster: oh, yeah sorry. i was a bit preoccupied :$ |
| 23:29.11 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:29.12 | korhalf | cookiemonster: its a music cd |
| 23:29.17 | cookiemonster | korhalf: no way for us to check. so we try to keep stuff that might be offensive away on a general basis :) |
| 23:29.23 | korhalf | k no problem |
| 23:29.23 | Demosthenes | thingfish: thats the full list of whats available. I'm looking for what minimum packages are installed bare bones ;] |
| 23:29.25 | korhalf | whitey |
| 23:29.26 | korhalf | ahha jk |
| 23:30.17 | korhalf | but yo help is appreciated |
| 23:30.17 | korhalf | im eternally greatful |
| 23:30.17 | thingfish | oh Demosthenes, you ask too much! I can't handle it anymore. |
| 23:30.17 | cookiemonster | korhalf: you can dd a music cd all right |
| 23:30.17 | deadcat | fresh baked photos from linuxworldexpo: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050808.linux.world.expo/ |
| 23:30.17 | Demosthenes | thingfish: the horror! muahaha! ;] |
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| 23:30.33 | cookiemonster | deadcat: /me read fresh baked potatoes from linuxworldexpo and was.. confused.. |
| 23:30.37 | Musggl | hi everyone ! how can I play .mov with totem player ? exist some codec to .mov ? |
| 23:30.38 | cookiemonster | poip |
| 23:30.40 | enveezee | sussudio: could I trouble you for 27, 28, and 29 too since you gave me half that week? |
| 23:30.43 | deadcat | cookiemonster: hehe |
| 23:30.44 | cookiemonster | potatoes over ip |
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| 23:30.58 | daesotho | musggl: use win32codecs |
| 23:31.05 | daesotho | with pitfdll |
| 23:31.06 | raphxl | hi guys |
| 23:31.13 | Musggl | i made, but dont play .mov |
| 23:31.18 | daesotho | its a new package that hasn't hit unstable yet |
| 23:31.31 | daesotho | gstreamer-0.8-pitfdll |
| 23:31.32 | korhalf | u said try DAO right? |
| 23:31.37 | daesotho | and win32codecs |
| 23:31.38 | stew | daesotho: its an old package that will never hit unstable |
| 23:31.38 | shingouz | !tell Musggl about marillat |
| 23:31.44 | beardy | cookiemonster: Can it be sent mashed, fried, baked, or only raw? |
| 23:31.48 | raphxl | I'm searching good and simple irc server to install in my debian box |
| 23:31.54 | cookiemonster | beardy: depends on your socket |
| 23:31.56 | raphxl | what's the best one |
| 23:32.09 | cookiemonster | beardy: you only have raw access as root, naturally |
| 23:32.11 | Musggl | sounds good .. marillat |
| 23:32.12 | Musggl | hehehhehe |
| 23:32.26 | cookiemonster | raphxl: simple and irc server are mutually exclusive |
| 23:32.30 | Musggl | thanks .. |
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| 23:32.39 | cookiemonster | raphxl: if you just want a small chat net, try jabber |
| 23:32.40 | trend | is there anyway to make xterm's background transparent? |
| 23:32.41 | shingouz | raphxl: anything as long as it is not unrealircd |
| 23:33.05 | cookiemonster | trend: if you want eyecandy, use eterm |
| 23:33.08 | raphxl | cookiemonster: I can build an irc server with jabber? |
| 23:33.16 | stew | i found ircds easier to setup than jabber ,but i haven't tried jabber in quite a while |
| 23:33.35 | trend | cookiemonster: I cannot use eterm/aterm/gnome-term :( |
| 23:33.37 | shingouz | raphxl: search for ircd and you should have several hits on apt-cache |
| 23:33.56 | raphxl | shingouz: thank, I'll take a look |
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| 23:34.15 | beardy | trend: No. So, does xterm work as it should? I wonder what's wrong with your aterm.. |
| 23:34.28 | FieldySnuts | setting up jabber certainly isn't easy, so that's not saying much |
| 23:34.41 | shingouz | raphxl: hybrid is not too bad even if it is a pain in the ass like all ircd's |
| 23:34.41 | trend | xterm works great! |
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| 23:34.57 | joesbox | i love xterm |
| 23:35.10 | trend | joesbox: have you customimzed yours any? |
| 23:35.11 | joesbox | fast, stable, never had a problem with it |
| 23:35.16 | joesbox | no |
| 23:35.28 | joesbox | default all the way |
| 23:35.43 | joesbox | don't really know how to customize xterm though |
| 23:35.57 | FieldySnuts | if you're using it, you're unlikely to be such a person anyway |
| 23:36.17 | deadcat | joesbox: .XResources |
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| 23:36.29 | trend | or .Xdefaults? |
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| 23:36.45 | stew | or whatever comes after xrdb -merge |
| 23:36.56 | trend | :) |
| 23:37.04 | korhalf | guys it froze again |
| 23:37.07 | korhalf | maybe i screwed up the scsi emulation |
| 23:37.16 | korhalf | which doesnt make sense because the cd burned fine, it just froze at track 7 |
| 23:37.21 | korhalf | and DAO froze at track 2 |
| 23:37.41 | FieldySnuts | sounds like a shitty drive, shitty media, or shitty user |
| 23:38.07 | enveezee | oh well tuesday 26th I had network isses it seems so the logs arent going to help me there. I got other logs to compare though I will compare hours with people at work if I can find anyone who still has record of them :P |
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| 23:38.20 | cookiemonster | trend: i am rather certain you can do transparency with xterm, but not sure |
| 23:38.30 | gravity | You can... but not with what's in Debian yet. |
| 23:38.31 | FieldySnuts | nope you can't |
| 23:38.32 | cookiemonster | trend: google, i guess |
| 23:38.37 | mattfury | debhelper tell mattfury flgrx |
| 23:38.38 | korhalf | FieldySnuts: its worked before |
| 23:38.38 | cookiemonster | hmmk, then |
| 23:38.39 | FieldySnuts | with xorg extensions, that's about it |
| 23:38.41 | gravity | I'm working on getting xcompmgr and transset in Debian, but it's not here yet. |
| 23:38.41 | korhalf | FieldySnuts: should i try using cd record |
| 23:38.49 | trend | cookiemonster: yeah.. I am .. just taking a wile.. |
| 23:38.51 | FieldySnuts | korhalf: nothing else is worth bothering with |
| 23:38.59 | mattfury | did i spell that right? :P |
| 23:39.04 | gravity | Besides, composite itself isn't ready, so transparent xterm should wait a year or so anyway for most people. |
| 23:39.10 | joesbox | well you probably can do transparency but you will need special tools like xcompmgr and .... shoot i forget the other one that works with xorg |
| 23:39.15 | cookiemonster | korhalf: i agree. for burning cds, there is only k3b |
| 23:39.25 | FieldySnuts | i've played with it on other systems, hangs me hard in every case, not to keen on trying it for a long time |
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| 23:39.39 | FieldySnuts | too |
| 23:39.51 | korhalf | so what now then |
| 23:39.56 | cookiemonster | <- bed |
| 23:40.07 | mattfury | someone tell me fglrx drivers? |
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| 23:40.15 | cookiemonster | korhalf: good luck |
| 23:40.17 | joesbox | i had xorg installed twice... once before it was in the deb archives and once after... both times i was not satisfied |
| 23:40.23 | FieldySnuts | @fuck ati / fglrx |
| 23:40.24 | stew | mattfury: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 23:40.30 | cookiemonster | !tell mattfury about fglrx |
| 23:40.34 | mattfury | :) |
| 23:40.35 | enveezee | I dont think there is any possible way I am mistaken here. but the various logs I am checking seem to confirm my belief. these fuckers screwed me out of at least $100 probably more. |
| 23:40.35 | gravity | joesbox: What was wrong with the debian packages? |
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| 23:40.59 | joesbox | not anything wrong with the deb packages... i just didn't like the instability of it |
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| 23:41.10 | mattfury | !tell mattfury about firegl drivers |
| 23:41.28 | korhalf | maybe my scsi emulation isnt working right |
| 23:41.49 | cartel_ | hmm |
| 23:41.55 | cartel_ | anyone know about the grub error The file /boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly. |
| 23:41.56 | joesbox | gravity: there must have been something wrong with my XF86 settings that didn't work well in Xorg... i checked and everything transfered proper but it would crash atleast once a day |
| 23:42.02 | cartel_ | grub-install |
| 23:42.02 | shingouz | mattfury: /msg dpkg the next time if you want to ask him something, works that way too |
| 23:42.04 | filemaker | I have glibc2.2 installed on my debian stable. how can i run an application which is statically linked against glibc2.0 |
| 23:42.10 | gravity | joesbox: What chipset? |
| 23:42.11 | FieldySnuts | i haven't found any instability with it at all |
| 23:42.24 | joesbox | via |
| 23:42.27 | gravity | hrm |
| 23:42.32 | joesbox | i think |
| 23:42.32 | empty_mind | I have glibc2.2 installed on my debian stable. how can i run an application which is statically linked against glibc2.0 |
| 23:42.33 | gravity | First I've heard of via issues... |
| 23:42.38 | gravity | i810 yes. |
| 23:42.41 | mattfury | shingouz, what if i just googled? |
| 23:42.50 | korhalf | Any ideas on what i should do? |
| 23:42.56 | korhalf | like right now i killed k3b |
| 23:42.56 | joesbox | i haven't set up the system in a while so i will have to pull out the paper work i had for setup |
| 23:42.59 | shingouz | mattfury: that works too most of the time :) |
| 23:42.59 | korhalf | and i cant open the cdrom |
| 23:43.04 | korhalf | its still spinning |
| 23:43.06 | korhalf | i cant open |
| 23:43.10 | joesbox | thinkpad 600x p500 |
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| 23:43.16 | gravity | joesbox: Just lspci it |
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| 23:43.22 | PandaKun | yo |
| 23:43.23 | beardy | korhalf: Have you tried with cdrecord? |
| 23:43.24 | PandaKun | yuo guys work with MRTG? |
| 23:43.31 | LilleNemi | hi |
| 23:43.38 | FieldySnuts | not if i can help it |
| 23:43.43 | korhalf | beardy: people here seem to think k3b is the only choice |
| 23:43.50 | shingouz | joesbox: you sure the video is not a neomagic? |
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| 23:44.01 | korhalf | beardy: whats the simple commands to burn a directories contents to the cd |
| 23:44.02 | tony400 | What's the free alternative to Macromedia Dreamweaver? |
| 23:44.03 | korhalf | for a music cd i mean |
| 23:44.07 | joesbox | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (r |
| 23:44.08 | FieldySnuts | tony400: common sense |
| 23:44.08 | joesbox | ev 03) |
| 23:44.08 | joesbox | 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev |
| 23:44.08 | joesbox | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.08 | joesbox | 0000:00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03) |
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| 23:44.11 | beardy | korhalf: Do they? Well, it's not. |
| 23:44.18 | korhalf | beardy: doesnt k3b use cdrecord anyway? |
| 23:44.18 | korhalf | i mean |
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| 23:44.25 | jetx | jojo,jo,jojo,jojojojo |
| 23:44.27 | FieldySnuts | yes it does but maybe it's being called wrong |
| 23:44.35 | tony400 | FieldyStats: Oh. Thank you soooo much. |
| 23:44.38 | joesbox | sorry about that.... i guess i won't be doing that again |
| 23:44.38 | joesbox | lol |
| 23:44.40 | shingouz | joesbox: thou shalt not paste here |
| 23:44.41 | jetx | k3bsetup |
| 23:44.44 | jetx | k3bsetup2 |
| 23:44.46 | joesbox | i got that |
| 23:44.47 | joesbox | lol |
| 23:44.49 | LilleNemi | =) |
| 23:44.49 | shingouz | :) |
| 23:44.55 | FieldySnuts | getting close to doing it manually again |
| 23:45.09 | beardy | korhalf: I don't know, haven't tried it. |
| 23:45.14 | PandaKun | =o |
| 23:45.16 | PandaKun | you guys use MRTG? |
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| 23:45.22 | joesbox | anyway... yes it is neomagic... i got confused with an older system i have been pissing with |
| 23:45.25 | PandaKun | i got it to work o.o |
| 23:45.29 | LilleNemi | =) |
| 23:45.32 | gravity | neomagic... ok |
| 23:45.40 | PandaKun | except it doesnt show my bandwidth traffic |
| 23:45.42 | FieldySnuts | nah, mrtg is a pain in the ass |
| 23:45.52 | FieldySnuts | i'll stick to cacti, at least until it's exploitable again |
| 23:45.57 | shingouz | joesbox: if you are trying to drive it with via drivers it is no wonder it is not too stable ;) |
| 23:46.01 | joesbox | p2 400 i think it is... still have to look up the serials |
| 23:46.01 | gravity | joesbox: Well, I'm working on getting 6.9 packages ready for when they're actually released by X.Org, so keep an eye out. Hopefully they'll work better for you. |
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| 23:46.22 | lewser | Im having a few issues after the last dist-upgrade, im running unstable, and havent really changed anything that i remember. mostly concerns apache tho. /echo postconf: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14, same goes for alot of other apps, and apache also says usr/sbin/apache-perl: error while loading shared libraries: libdb-4.2.so: cann |
| 23:46.23 | shingouz | joesbox: cat /proc/cpuinfo tells you the cpu |
| 23:46.25 | chealer | gravity: do you know if r128 has 3D support? |
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| 23:46.35 | FieldySnuts | chealer: dout that |
| 23:46.44 | lewser | tries to remove libdb/libssl, but it wants to remove 150+ other packages too |
| 23:46.44 | LilleNemi | bedtime! bye bye |
| 23:46.54 | chealer | FieldySnuts: ok. there's a RC bug about an app not running using r128 |
| 23:46.55 | korhalf | yo my cdrom is still going |
| 23:46.56 | joesbox | not that big of a deal... i did a clean sweep and decided to go to etch instead of sid |
| 23:46.56 | korhalf | how do i kill it |
| 23:47.02 | korhalf | the cd inside it wont stop spinning |
| 23:47.03 | chealer | s/not running/segfaulting |
| 23:47.03 | gravity | chealer: It's had 3d support for years |
| 23:47.11 | chealer | gravity: ok |
| 23:47.22 | gravity | chealer: Is this the lincity-ng bug? |
| 23:47.35 | chealer | gravity: thanks. yes |
| 23:47.37 | joesbox | shingouz: i know but unfortunatly i didn't put linux on it yet... i am planning on giving it away to someone that is only going to use it for web access |
| 23:47.43 | joesbox | so i am putting on win98 |
| 23:47.54 | gravity | chealer: Yeah... I haven't had time to look in to that, although I think upstream knows about it. |
| 23:47.58 | chealer | gravity: I was wondering if asking the submitter for glxinfo could be useful |
| 23:48.00 | gravity | chealer: It's on my mind though. |
| 23:48.17 | shingouz | korhalf: check if you have cdrecord running and kill it if it still runs. lsof | grep <your burner> should help too |
| 23:48.18 | empty_mind | what does this error means "symbol __on_exit, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference" |
| 23:48.20 | gravity | chealer: No, I probably need the Xorg log and .conf more than glxinfo |
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| 23:48.32 | gravity | chealer: But I need to look in to the problem a bit before I can do much about it |
| 23:48.36 | gravity | I really don't understand DRI yet |
| 23:48.38 | chealer | gravity: no worries, you're already the DD hero of the month :) |
| 23:48.43 | beardy | korhalf: Wait it out? Or a reset of the drive with hdparm? (might be bad). |
| 23:48.43 | joesbox | there is a distro out there called beatrix that default with XPde and i was thinking of using that |
| 23:48.55 | gravity | Ha! |
| 23:48.59 | gravity | chealer: Thank you :-) |
| 23:49.01 | shingouz | joesbox: if that is going to be used for web access only, slap debian on it |
| 23:49.07 | gravity | chealer: Are you maintaining lincity-ng? |
| 23:49.18 | chealer | gravity: do I look like a maintainer? |
| 23:49.27 | RvGaTe | Is it possible to make a command thats root only, available for others? |
| 23:49.32 | joesbox | but the person loves to go to a place called pogo... i have had problems getting the flash driver to work there |
| 23:49.32 | gravity | chealer: Dunno. Why not? |
| 23:49.41 | RvGaTe | without using sudo |
| 23:49.46 | joesbox | they are using advanced swf or something |
| 23:49.52 | beardy | korhalf: hmm, but if its scsi-emulated hdparm can't touch it so that's not possible.. |
| 23:49.54 | gravity | I hung around in here for a long time before I was a maintainer |
| 23:49.57 | Agrajag- | RvGaTe: why not sudo? that's what it's for.. |
| 23:49.57 | shingouz | RvGaTe: sudo. and what command are you planning to let anyone use? |
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| 23:50.26 | chealer | gravity: muahaha. I'm not officially on any project since over a year... because I didn't study computing at all yet, for one thing |
| 23:50.30 | korhalf | beardy: dude i gotta reboot brb |
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| 23:50.34 | joesbox | the topic of sudo sparks a question from me |
| 23:50.41 | gravity | chealer: Neither do I. I'm a biologist |
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| 23:50.46 | joesbox | has anyone seen the script su-to-root? |
| 23:50.57 | qjb | I solved my CDROM problem. It was a BIOS setting. I changed the ATA settings from legacy to native and it started working. (I just decided to recheck everything from scratch, and I had overlooked this before.) |
| 23:50.58 | chealer | gravity: huh |
| 23:51.00 | FieldySnuts | nope, but it sure sounds redundant by the name |
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| 23:51.05 | enveezee | sounds dangerous |
| 23:51.10 | RvGaTe | shingouz: Agrajag-, sudo somehow, doesn't let the www-data account execute a command.... im trying to create a WOL web-interface... i need access for www-data to the etherwake command... |
| 23:51.32 | joesbox | it is a sudo for idiots like i was before i figured out how to use sudo |
| 23:51.38 | FieldySnuts | or you could use php as long as it's got sockets support in |
| 23:51.43 | FieldySnuts | not something i'd recommend though |
| 23:51.44 | chealer | gravity: are you also a philosoph with a non-traditional definition of life? :) |
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| 23:51.59 | gravity | chealer: Ha! No, just a dilletante :-) |
| 23:52.02 | RvGaTe | FieldySnuts: the php wol code you find on php.net doesn't work for me |
| 23:52.04 | joesbox | i have a copy of it if anyone wants to see it |
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| 23:52.16 | chealer | while I mention that segfault, would somebody tell me if it's normal that GL apps segfault instead of reporting something useful when there's no direct rendering? |
| 23:52.19 | joesbox | it even came with a man.... i just don't know here i got it from |
| 23:52.20 | FieldySnuts | like i said, have to have sockets support compiled into php, i really hope that's not the default |
| 23:52.24 | Rawplayer | !locale |
| 23:52.24 | dpkg | it has been said that locale is something to help you using an application you don't understand because it's written in a language you don't know, by making you not understand it in a language you know. <man 7 locale> for real information. |
| 23:52.26 | gravity | joesbox: It's in the menu package, iirc |
| 23:52.27 | joesbox | i seem to be the only one that has it |
| 23:52.29 | lonny | how do I create an IP chain that will do NAT and PAT? |
| 23:52.38 | FieldySnuts | what's pat? |
| 23:52.41 | joesbox | really? ok |
| 23:52.59 | joesbox | i installed that once when i was testing out irc clients |
| 23:53.01 | arjanoosting | lewser: seems to be a know problem http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321718 |
| 23:53.04 | lonny | FieldySnuts: port address translation...usually assumed when NAT is said |
| 23:53.21 | FieldySnuts | okay, hadn't heard of that though i'm well versed in nat, curious |
| 23:53.23 | RvGaTe | FieldySnuts: becouse the php code didn't work, im using shell_exec togetter with sudo to execute the etherwake command... |
| 23:53.25 | lewser | arjanoosting, thanks alot :) |
| 23:53.32 | FieldySnuts | RvGaTe: sounds reasonable |
| 23:53.41 | lonny | FieldySnuts: do you know about ipchains as well? |
| 23:53.45 | FieldySnuts | and a hell of a lot safer |
| 23:53.52 | FieldySnuts | lonny: no, haven't used it in years |
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| 23:54.17 | RvGaTe | FieldySnuts: the config is set that www-data root and rvgate (3 users in total) have full access to the root commands... |
| 23:54.19 | lonny | FieldySnuts: do you know where I could find a good tutorial on it? |
| 23:54.20 | arjanoosting | lewser: np |
| 23:54.39 | FieldySnuts | RvGaTe: yikes, awful, who the hell wrote that |
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| 23:55.36 | RvGaTe | FieldySnuts: when doing "sudo etherwake <mac>" when logged on as rvgate works fine... but when doing it with php shell_exec, it doesn't... so its kinda fuzzy for my why not |
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| 23:56.04 | joesbox | anyone have a tut on sudo config? |
| 23:56.10 | joesbox | i need to read up on it |
| 23:56.52 | RvGaTe | FieldySnuts, if i do shell_exec("whoami"), it gives me "www-data"... so it should have access to it... |
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| 23:57.01 | chealer | gravity: did you mean dilettante? ;) |
| 23:57.02 | thorie | can someone help me? |
| 23:57.11 | joesbox | thorie: what is wrong |
| 23:57.11 | thorie | is there a network support room here? |
| 23:57.15 | gravity | chealer: Yeah :-) |
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| 23:57.21 | thorie | im having irc connection problems |
| 23:57.29 | RvGaTe | we notices |
| 23:57.31 | chealer | gravity: ok, then I have to agree |
| 23:57.31 | RvGaTe | d |
| 23:57.32 | thorie | where are the irc ops? |
| 23:57.44 | enveezee | I'm having logging problems.. thats why I am asking other people for their logs :P |
| 23:58.05 | thingfish | all the irc ops are in norway at a shrink-wrap fetishist's convention. |
| 23:58.43 | enveezee | I could still use July 27th - August 5th though the 16th-26th of July I got helped a lot. |
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| 23:59.18 | korhalf | greetings |
| 23:59.31 | joesbox | korhalf: greetings back |
| 23:59.32 | enveezee | I managed to recall June 05 - June 15th by memory |
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