| 00:00.03 | beardy | korhalf: Got your cd out? :) |
| 00:00.04 | thorie | :( |
| 00:00.18 | redguy | can someone point me to a windows networking channel? |
| 00:00.28 | beardy | redguy: /list |
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| 00:01.06 | thingfish | redguy: #corporate-scum |
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| 00:01.32 | enveezee | got screwed out of hours a lot at work. I already submitted copies of my shitty pay stubs.. but I am comparing my hours, with other peoples hours as well as with my participation on #debian which I do before and after work every day. to make sure I am not exaggerating anything |
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| 00:02.09 | thingfish | enveezee: don't let those bastards get away with it. |
| 00:02.31 | chealer | gravity: just wondering, would you expect dfsg.1-5 to get to testing? |
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| 00:02.44 | thorie | ??????????????????? |
| 00:02.45 | thorie | ???????? |
| 00:02.47 | thorie | ???????????????? |
| 00:02.47 | thorie | ? |
| 00:02.50 | enveezee | cause they already suggested paying me for 6 more hours for June 18-22, but they actually owe me for 7.5 from what I can see |
| 00:02.50 | thorie | ?????????????? |
| 00:02.54 | beardy | thorie: Stop it. |
| 00:03.03 | gravity | chealer: I'm going to build it tonight and upload tomorrow. After that, it'll hopefully go in after the normal period. I think this'll be the one to go in. |
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| 00:03.11 | enveezee | that was that week I got sick as fuck the logs sussudio gave me show |
| 00:03.33 | chealer | gravity: greaaaat :D |
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| 00:03.54 | chealer | gravity: who's sponsoring you? ;) |
| 00:03.55 | thingfish | enveezee: isn't it just like them, those damn bourgeiosie owners of the means of production... |
| 00:04.06 | gravity | heh |
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| 00:04.31 | gravity | I can't imagine anyone ballsy enough to sponsor someone like me for something like Xorg. |
| 00:04.44 | yoo | Somebody know how to install ProDVD support for cdrecord ? |
| 00:04.44 | enveezee | thingfish: fauk em. I went to work yesturday, and when the clock didnt accept my badge the first 5 times I went right back home. If it doesnt work, neither do I.. thats my new policy |
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| 00:04.56 | enveezee | it worked today.. so I stayed |
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| 00:05.04 | deadcat | gravity: are you dave nusinow? i am reading the debian weekly news (= |
| 00:05.09 | thingfish | enveezee: obviously a workplace with serious problems. |
| 00:05.11 | gravity | deadcat: Yes |
| 00:05.17 | enveezee | they didnt even bitch at me for not telling anyone I was there or leaving |
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| 00:05.29 | gravity | dwn is slightly wrong.... 6.9 isn't out yet. Just a release candidate. That was what I blogged about. |
| 00:05.31 | enveezee | cause they know if they bitch at me I am suing their asses |
| 00:05.36 | thingfish | enveezee: I suggest immediate revolution - possibly armed. |
| 00:05.50 | enveezee | thingfish: brand new business, they are all kinds of fucked |
| 00:05.54 | chealer | gravity: yeah, I was wondering if it was out when I red the news |
| 00:06.05 | gravity | Yeah... just the release candidate. I still have time :-) |
| 00:06.17 | gravity | Hopefully with -5 I can put 6.8 largely behind me and move on. |
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| 00:06.29 | chealer | gravity: the point is, you're in DWN again :) |
| 00:06.31 | deadcat | gravity: nice nice |
| 00:06.39 | gravity | chealer: Yay fame :-p |
| 00:07.09 | enveezee | the first week I worked June 10-15 seems right I calculated 2 hours training and stuff monday, and then 26 hours after that for Tues-Fri and I got paid for those.. after that it gets ridiculous |
| 00:07.33 | PSK | i need help - i'm attempting to get debian on a powerbook 3400c. can anyone help me? |
| 00:08.01 | enveezee | I've been here over a month now and year to date I've not made $500 |
| 00:08.12 | enveezee | I mean I've made it, I just havent been paid |
| 00:08.17 | beardy | PSK: Just ask. |
| 00:08.19 | sussudio | enveezee: accept dcc |
| 00:08.21 | thingfish | intolerable |
| 00:08.27 | PSK | i believe that's what i just did |
| 00:08.34 | gravity | PSK: What's your specific issue? |
| 00:08.46 | PSK | i can't start yaboot |
| 00:08.48 | ecobit | what port(s) does gpg use? |
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| 00:09.04 | sagarp | where does kde store info about fonts? like what is the difference between the root fonts folder, and the user's fonts:/system folder?? |
| 00:09.04 | gravity | PSK: You might want to ask in #debianppc |
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| 00:09.13 | PSK | ok |
| 00:09.18 | enveezee | sussudio: thank you. :) |
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| 00:09.26 | sussudio | k. |
| 00:09.28 | ecobit | sagarp: or #debian-kde |
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| 00:10.43 | thorie | hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 00:10.57 | dvs | thorie: Hello, Jerry |
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| 00:11.27 | thorie | dvssssssssssssssss |
| 00:11.30 | thorie | :( |
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| 00:11.37 | PSK | i see no signs of life in #debianppc |
| 00:11.41 | dvs | thorie: Why are you hissing at me? |
| 00:11.41 | thingfish | thorie, you are becoming an irritant. |
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| 00:12.27 | thingfish | dvs: all these things are eventually attributable to faulty biochemistry. |
| 00:12.34 | dvs | ha! |
| 00:12.51 | enveezee | I need to check with a few different people at work now. get the spreadsheets from the idiot, and then compare them with his boss's documents, and also with hours sheets other people have kept if I can find anyone who still has their own records |
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| 00:13.10 | thorie | can someone help me? |
| 00:13.12 | thingfish | thorie, is, no doubt, suffering from some sort of cerebral imbalance. |
| 00:13.23 | dvs | thingfish: I live close to a nuclear power plant. Does that count? |
| 00:13.32 | dz | Are there woody netinst iso images somewhere still? My system got hosed before I upgraded, and I want to restore the old packages before upgrading. |
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| 00:14.02 | jonkri | what is the easiest way of booting a iso file without burning it on a cd? (i have grub) |
| 00:14.04 | Eto_Demerzel | hello |
| 00:14.23 | thingfish | dvs: well, but you might have solid genetic background in spite of it, unlike thorie. |
| 00:14.26 | Wyzard | jonkri: You can't |
| 00:14.29 | enveezee | jonkri: what has grub got to do with anything? |
| 00:14.31 | dvs | ;-) |
| 00:14.32 | beardy | jonkri: There is no one. |
| 00:14.39 | jonkri | enveezee: grub's a boot loader? |
| 00:14.47 | enveezee | jonkri: not going to boot a cd image |
| 00:14.52 | jonkri | Wyzard, beardy: oh, that's a shame |
| 00:14.59 | enveezee | jonkri: unless you burn the cd, then the BIOS can boot it |
| 00:15.03 | jonkri | can i launch the image from my system then? |
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| 00:15.14 | enveezee | you could burn it :) |
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| 00:15.32 | beardy | jonkri: A cd isn't that expenxive is it? |
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| 00:15.37 | jonkri | enveezee: i could have done that if i could, but i can't |
| 00:15.41 | Eto_Demerzel | jonkri: you can load any file system once the kernel is up and running |
| 00:15.53 | enveezee | my credit should have been paid off two fucking weeks ago and I should have memory in the mail right now |
| 00:16.08 | Eto_Demerzel | jonkri: that means that your computer can't understand what an ISO is unless its already loaded a kernel (catch-22) |
| 00:16.13 | jonkri | beardy: well, i believe i will have to burn and test 50 different images and i have no cd burner on my computer |
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| 00:16.53 | Eto_Demerzel | jonkri: is there any specific reason you want to boot a CD using a boot loader? |
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| 00:16.58 | jonkri | can i emulate a bios that is loading the disk somehow? it's a anaconda installation that i'm experimenting with |
| 00:16.58 | trend_ | hello |
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| 00:17.08 | beardy | jonkri: Why do you need to do that? What are you trying to do? |
| 00:17.13 | Wyzard | jonkri: You could use VMware |
| 00:17.18 | enveezee | jonkri: get vmware with a test lisc or something |
| 00:17.24 | Wyzard | jonkri: It can connect an iso file to its virtual CD-ROM drive |
| 00:17.37 | thingfish | enveezee: send their CEO a little card saying you've petitioned your local parish priest to say a funeral mass in his honor. |
| 00:17.42 | jonkri | beardy: test my debian anaconda installation |
| 00:17.49 | enveezee | thingfish: I am going to construct a large dildo out of houshold objects with to fuck these hoes with if they dont have my money. |
| 00:17.51 | jonkri | Wyzard: isn't vmware proprietary? |
| 00:17.57 | Eto_Demerzel | jonkri: it's starting to make a weird sense to me now...you want to test boot ups? |
| 00:18.00 | jonkri | enveezee: test lisc? |
| 00:18.01 | Wyzard | jonkri: Yes, you'd have to buy it |
| 00:18.06 | thingfish | enveezee: now I like your creativity. |
| 00:18.16 | thingfish | I'd say go with that. |
| 00:18.18 | Wyzard | jonkri: But if you do this sort of thing often, it'd be worth it |
| 00:18.22 | enveezee | jonkri: yeah they give you a test or trial lisc to try it or to beta-test the latest |
| 00:18.30 | jonkri | Eto_Demerzel: i want to know weather or not the image successfully starts anaconda before i burn it |
| 00:18.35 | enveezee | jonkri: otherwise vmware workstation is like $300 or more |
| 00:18.37 | jonkri | Wyzard: thanks |
| 00:18.39 | thingfish | make it a very wide and warty dildo. |
| 00:18.39 | beardy | jonkri: Try a virtual machine, as suggested. |
| 00:18.39 | enveezee | IIRC |
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| 00:19.24 | jonkri | can i at least test if it's bootable somehow? |
| 00:19.33 | jonkri | (easily, like, right now) |
| 00:19.44 | Wyzard | jonkri: isoinfo -d -i filename.iso |
| 00:19.45 | enveezee | thingfish: oh yes. and high friction materials with excrecions of inflaminatory liquids |
| 00:19.52 | jonkri | Wyzard: thanks |
| 00:19.57 | Wyzard | jonkri: I think that says whether it's bootable (look for "El Torito" mentioned) |
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| 00:20.24 | enveezee | damn I left a lot of letters on my tray that turn |
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| 00:21.38 | abrotman | that's it .. you're all fired! |
| 00:21.45 | dvs | yippie! |
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| 00:22.04 | JovenComunista | hello |
| 00:22.06 | jonkri | Wyzard: great! "El Torito VD version 1 found, boot catalog is in sector 112" |
| 00:22.07 | jonkri | thanks everyone |
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| 00:22.34 | nashirak | Hey guys... I used to have my box setup where I by default would grab the "testing" packages, but could get unstable by simply saying "apt-get install packagename/unstable". I don't remember how to set this up again. Can someone point me in the right direction (I think its a simple 1-2 lines in a config file). |
| 00:22.40 | JovenComunista | how can i install the openoffice 2.0 beta in debian sarge? |
| 00:22.44 | abrotman | jonkri: you got VD ? |
| 00:22.50 | Crell | Debian has a system image tool, does it not? I want to snapshot an install so that I can screw with it, then restore from the image afterward so that I can futz in a different direction. It's just a single partition. |
| 00:22.55 | abrotman | !tell nashirak about pinning |
| 00:22.55 | chealer | jonkri: get sid sources |
| 00:22.56 | enveezee | lilo: is there any significant difference between the I= and the i= on the host? showed I= when you left and i= when you joined.. it varies case, |
| 00:23.03 | chealer | jonkri: sorry |
| 00:23.07 | abrotman | Crell: systemimager .. or something like that |
| 00:23.07 | theeil | i installed rp-pppoe using the download from their site, ran adsl-setup, then adsl-start. it printed: ..Connected, but when i tried to use mozilla, it could not connect to google.ca. ping google.ca does not work either. |
| 00:23.11 | chealer | JovenComunista: : get sid sources |
| 00:23.15 | abrotman | !mtu |
| 00:23.15 | dpkg | hmm... mtu is Maximum Transferrable Unit.. Maximum Transmission Unit, or what tracepath (package iputils-tracepath) can find about, or can be configured in interfaces - see <interfaces> |
| 00:23.23 | Wyzard | nashirak: Put in your /etc/apt/apt.conf... APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
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| 00:23.36 | Wyzard | nashirak: and put an unstable source in your sources.list |
| 00:23.47 | dvs | theeil: You do know that rp-pppoe is part of Debian. |
| 00:23.48 | JovenComunista | chealer: ok thanx :) |
| 00:23.49 | abrotman | Wyzard: xenogears! |
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| 00:23.53 | Eto_Demerzel | my problem: i have dhcpd configured properly on my linux desktop. how do i give internet access to a laptop i pluginto it via crossover cable. i googled it but iptables, tunneling and routing all seem to confuse me. |
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| 00:24.08 | nashirak | Wyzard abrotman: Thx guys |
| 00:24.08 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 00:24.09 | dpkg | IP masquerading allows several machines to share one Internet connection. Learn about it at http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-ip-masq.html or don't mix the slink ipmasq deb and a 2.2.x kernel, or available at ipmasq.cjb.net, or ipmasq package is evil, before coming here to ask help with unexpected network problems, first remove it! See also: masq |
| 00:24.09 | Wyzard | abrotman: Working on it |
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| 00:24.14 | Wyzard | abrotman: I got GTA3 a few weeks ago too |
| 00:24.15 | Crell | abrotman: Hm, looks impressive. But that looks like it's for network installs. Which I suppose this could count as... Have you used it? |
| 00:24.16 | chealer | JovenComunista: sorry, experimental sources |
| 00:24.19 | abrotman | Wyzard: uh oh |
| 00:24.33 | abrotman | Crell: nope ... |
| 00:24.39 | thingfish | man, I think I'm going to have to give up pot if I'm going to get a decent job...sucks. |
| 00:24.40 | Crell | Ah good. :-) |
| 00:25.00 | abrotman | thingfish: you oculd become a dealer ... |
| 00:25.04 | theeil | dvs: no, how do i use that? is it a different command? |
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| 00:25.20 | thingfish | abrotman: no good - I want to smoke it, not make money off it. |
| 00:25.25 | dvs | theeil: install the "pppoe" package |
| 00:25.26 | Crell | No, drug dealers never use their own shit. Only Linux dealers do that. :-) |
| 00:25.27 | thingfish | too risky :( |
| 00:25.29 | JovenComunista | chealer: hehe ok man... thanx |
| 00:25.33 | JovenComunista | again :) |
| 00:25.34 | abrotman | thingfish: oh yeah .. what a dumb idea i had |
| 00:25.47 | Eto_Demerzel | thingfish: the solution is easy. get addicted to heaver stuff like crack and just use pot to make money |
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| 00:26.01 | thingfish | abrotman: I live literally just down the street from my local police station. |
| 00:26.12 | abrotman | thingfish: do they serve donuts downstairs? |
| 00:26.15 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:26.16 | Eto_Demerzel | thingfish: give them a discount? |
| 00:26.16 | akant | stupid question, why would Debian sarge drop and ask me to enter a runlevel at boot? |
| 00:26.20 | akant | :( |
| 00:26.21 | sagarp | so does nobody know where kde stores the font info?? |
| 00:26.25 | thingfish | you funny boys |
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| 00:26.27 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
| 00:26.35 | sagarp | abrotman nobody is in there |
| 00:26.41 | sagarp | well nobody is aroudn at least |
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| 00:26.45 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: just a sec |
| 00:26.47 | concept10 | anyone know the the name of that mp3 player that is sort of like rhythmbox with the funny name? |
| 00:27.22 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: are you installing new fonts? |
| 00:27.27 | Wyzard | concept10: I don't know the name offhand, but if you mean the one I think you mean, it's a .NET app, and you can probably find a link in the Mono website's list of .NET apps that use it |
| 00:27.28 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: try kde control panel |
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| 00:27.58 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: if you just want to install fonts you can do so through the control panel |
| 00:27.58 | sagarp | Eto_demerzel yeah but i can't find the font-install thing...and i uh, accidentally deleted my fonts in those folders X| |
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| 00:28.33 | concept10 | Wyzard, you must be talking about Muine, thanks ... but the player im talking about is called something with two words, cant figure it out |
| 00:28.33 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: fonts depend on x server ... not sure why KDE fonts would be separate |
| 00:28.43 | Crell | Hm. Quick'n'dirty method, boot to CD, mount an SMB share, dd a disk image over. Then to restore, dd it back, also from CD. Sound non-stupid? |
| 00:28.58 | Wyzard | concept10: No, there's another one, besides Muine |
| 00:29.00 | sagarp | Eto_Demerzel well there is the fonts:/ virtual folder thing...but i dont know where those files are actually stoerd |
| 00:29.02 | gravity | concept10: quod libet? |
| 00:29.39 | concept10 | gravity, thanks, thats it |
| 00:29.43 | gravity | sagarp: ~/.fonts? |
| 00:29.56 | concept10 | quod libet == funny name :) |
| 00:29.57 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: /etc/X11/fonts/ |
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| 00:30.00 | abrotman | sagarp: yes there is |
| 00:30.07 | Wyzard | concept10: Interesting... I hadn't heard of that one |
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| 00:30.22 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: but like i said, if YOU (i.e. user) are installing fonts just for yourself do it thru KDE's control panel |
| 00:30.23 | gravity | I use it |
| 00:30.29 | gravity | muine is great, but I hate its shuffle function |
| 00:30.36 | sagarp | Eto_Demerzel, but where does it specify what fonts are specific for "root" or "normal user" |
| 00:30.44 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: it doesn't |
| 00:30.50 | joesbox | how does one submit a package for official archive? |
| 00:30.51 | sagarp | Eto_Demerzel for displaying in the fonts:/ path in konqueror |
| 00:30.54 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: /etc/X11/fonts is for xserver |
| 00:30.59 | gravity | Also the muine dep on mono is a bit unstable... |
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| 00:31.04 | gravity | Verrry big software stack |
| 00:31.17 | concept10 | gravity, They should change the name of that, Quod Libet, WTF is that? |
| 00:31.21 | sagarp | Eto_Demerzel then how come if i look at fonts:/ as root, i t's different than fonts:/ as regular user |
| 00:31.29 | joesbox | or atleast approval for the official archive |
| 00:31.29 | gravity | concept10: It means "As you like it" or something similar |
| 00:31.36 | Wyzard | gravity: I've been using Muine for a few months in sid and haven't had problems with it so far |
| 00:31.56 | gravity | Wyzard: I used it early on, and then I had major issues and switched to quod libet. |
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| 00:32.08 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: hmm...that sounds like something KDE does on its own |
| 00:32.09 | gravity | Wyzard: Muine works now for me, but I'm still wary |
| 00:32.29 | abrotman | now you know why kde sucks :) |
| 00:32.35 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: i've never played around with fonts in KDE |
| 00:32.37 | sagarp | =/ |
| 00:32.43 | kelan | hey! |
| 00:32.45 | abrotman | maybe ask #kde ? |
| 00:32.59 | sagarp | nobody's answering =( |
| 00:33.08 | concept10 | gravity, I need a player sort of like Rhythmbox but is much more robust, which do you suggest? |
| 00:33.16 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: are your x fonts still there? |
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| 00:33.22 | sagarp | Eto_Demerzel yes they are |
| 00:33.36 | joesbox | i go with little things... that is when i found xmcd |
| 00:33.44 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: then KDE should work fine minus any fonts that you installed |
| 00:33.44 | gravity | concept10: quod libet is pretty solid, although it's more of a power user's thing. It's got full regex abilities |
| 00:33.56 | abrotman | Crell: why? |
| 00:33.56 | enveezee | concept10: amarok |
| 00:33.58 | gravity | concept10: It's built on python, which makes it really slow to start, but other than that it's pretty awesome |
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| 00:34.15 | sagarp | Eto_Demerzel, no...because i'm a retard and accidentally deleted fonts from the root's fonts:/ thing..so some windows open up (like the control panel) with no fonts |
| 00:34.16 | gravity | concept10: I haven't had a single issue with it since I started using it, and it's written by a debian developer |
| 00:34.21 | gravity | concept10: So the packages are up to date |
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| 00:34.37 | gravity | amarok looks cool too |
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| 00:34.42 | gravity | I haven't really used it though |
| 00:34.53 | Eto_Demerzel | sagarp: i see lol...just a sec...my only guess is that its in .kde in your home folder |
| 00:34.53 | sagarp | maybe i have to restart x |
| 00:35.06 | Crell | amarok is very fancy. I find Juk to be simpler and better implemented, myself. |
| 00:35.08 | chealer | amarok is kool |
| 00:35.09 | concept10 | gravity, cool. Rhythmbox is okay, but I have files on external drives and it takes forever to find them every startup |
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| 00:35.10 | enveezee | there are some apps cool enough to ignore that they are programmed with QT |
| 00:35.12 | sagarp | Eto_Demerzel ok i'm gonig to try to restart kde |
| 00:35.23 | gravity | concept10: Yeah, give quod libet a go. I like it. |
| 00:35.26 | metaperl | amarok is very solid now |
| 00:35.29 | concept10 | yeah, i ignore qt apps |
| 00:35.31 | gravity | concept10: If not, hopefully there's somthing for you out there. |
| 00:35.33 | metaperl | and it is unmatched in useability |
| 00:35.45 | keenan | is there a way to see what packages provide some virtual package with just apt-get that doesn't need root privileges? |
| 00:35.53 | gravity | Yeah, amarok looked like it was the most useable player around. I just don't like using qt apps these days unless I have to |
| 00:36.01 | keenan | apt-cache show www-browser, for example, yields no output |
| 00:36.03 | FieldySnuts | indeed on qt |
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| 00:36.14 | concept10 | I wish that someone would just make a mega player |
| 00:36.17 | sagarp | ok that worked =P |
| 00:36.20 | gravity | keenan: grep-dctrl should do it.... uh... let me see |
| 00:36.21 | concept10 | *mega* |
| 00:36.32 | mikeX | yeah, a pity it's qt indeed :/ |
| 00:36.32 | chealer | keenan: s/show/showpkg |
| 00:36.46 | keenan | ah, thanks |
| 00:36.48 | enveezee | could be worse.. could be tk |
| 00:36.51 | mikeX | but it still rocks :/ (part from the 20-30% cpu on my box ) |
| 00:37.02 | FieldySnuts | rather it be tk than that bloated shit |
| 00:37.04 | gravity | enveezee: No one would know about it if it was in tk :-) |
| 00:37.17 | enveezee | heh |
| 00:37.46 | concept10 | I have too many players on my machine, xmms, bmp, vlc, realplayer, mplayer, totem-xine, gxine, gnome cd player |
| 00:37.49 | mikeX | haha, indeed |
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| 00:37.55 | mikeX | like snackamp |
| 00:38.00 | abrotman | concept10: no totem-gstreamer? |
| 00:38.02 | mikeX | or whatever it's called |
| 00:38.10 | enveezee | I only use ogg123 and madplay anymore |
| 00:38.14 | mikeX | cplay |
| 00:38.16 | mikeX | :/ |
| 00:38.19 | enveezee | cplay is still my frontend |
| 00:38.30 | Eto_Demerzel | hmm...so any recommendations on how to give a dhcpd server running on eth0 also provide internet access to any machine you hook upto it? |
| 00:38.33 | concept10 | abrotman, nope, totem-xine, gstreamer totem didnt work and I didnt want to mess around with it |
| 00:38.48 | chealer | BTW, is it true that gstreamer will be removed from testing :? |
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| 00:38.58 | enveezee | I am trying to figure out a way to squeeze more songs on my portable player until I can get my fuckin money and order more memory for it |
| 00:39.07 | RvGaTe | FieldySnuts: i got the sudo thing working... i had to make sure www-data didn't have to type in a password, so the config file looked like: User_Alias WOL = rvgate, www-data; Cmnd_Alias ETH = /usr/sbin/etherwake; WOL ALL= NOPASSWD:ETH.... and it worked perfectly :D |
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| 00:39.25 | concept10 | enveezee, remove the songs you dont listen to much |
| 00:39.28 | gravity | enveezee: apt-cache showpkg www-browser |
| 00:39.34 | abrotman | concept10: i think i've had more luck with gstreamer |
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| 00:39.40 | gravity | I knew it was in apt-cache somewhere |
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| 00:39.48 | enveezee | its only 128mb I got 28 on there,, I wanted 30 |
| 00:39.49 | enveezee | heh |
| 00:39.51 | mikeX | chealer, really? where did you hear that? |
| 00:39.51 | frem | I have an old sarge net-install disk from when sarge was in testing... can I use it to install sarge stable? |
| 00:39.55 | mattfury | how do i set resolution higher than if supported? |
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| 00:40.06 | abrotman | frem: you can .. but probably better to get a released one |
| 00:40.09 | mattfury | i just can handle 800x600 anymore! |
| 00:40.11 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 00:40.11 | dpkg | methinks d-i is the new installer for Debian 3.1 (Sarge). You ARE installing Sarge and not Woody, right? See http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer |
| 00:40.13 | gravity | crap... wrong person |
| 00:40.13 | enveezee | when you are out all day you can easily listen to even 30 songs 6 times |
| 00:40.22 | dvs | !drxx mattfury |
| 00:40.23 | dpkg | mattfury: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:40.26 | gravity | keenan: apt-cache showpkg www-broser |
| 00:40.26 | chealer | mikeX: on d-d-a and packages.qa.d.o seems to confirm. but I still find it hard to believe |
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| 00:40.37 | mikeX | chealer, how come? |
| 00:40.41 | Eto_Demerzel | mattfury: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:41.05 | chealer | mikeX: how come I find it hear to believe or how come it would be removed? |
| 00:41.06 | enveezee | it takes SD/MMC cards up to 512MB so I should be getting at least one of those. they are about $30 on pricewatch. I dont know if there would be any real advantage to getting more than one or not yet |
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| 00:41.16 | chealer | mikeX: s/hear/hard |
| 00:41.26 | mikeX | chealer, removed |
| 00:41.26 | enveezee | who knows I may start using this as a memory card drive and using those for incremental backups |
| 00:41.39 | concept10 | abrotman, what is gstreamer anyway? is it a library like xine? |
| 00:41.54 | mikeX | a bit more concept10 |
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| 00:42.12 | Wyzard | concept10: It's a multimedia framework, similar to DirectShow in Windows |
| 00:42.13 | Eto_Demerzel | are there any howto's for the non-geeky types that want to have internet connection sharing thru their linux desktop? |
| 00:42.18 | chealer | mikeX: I don't even know |
| 00:42.21 | abrotman | !gstreamer |
| 00:42.21 | dpkg | i guess gstreamer is a cool multimedia framework, talk to the developers in #gstreamer |
| 00:42.36 | enveezee | concept10: its a very large multimedia componant of gnome. |
| 00:42.36 | abrotman | Wyzard: hehe .. directshow |
| 00:42.41 | concept10 | I just bought one of those 9.99 disposable cameras, about to solder on a connector |
| 00:42.43 | chealer | mikeX: apparently due to RC bugs, but I don't really find them |
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| 00:43.25 | mikeX | :/ |
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| 00:43.50 | enveezee | sure would make a space effecient portable storage to use those little flash memory for backups and such |
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| 00:44.03 | enveezee | havent used them extensivly to know how reliable they are |
| 00:44.32 | Wyzard | enveezee: Flash memory would be good for occasional backups, but not frequent writing |
| 00:44.54 | Wyzard | enveezee: After a few thousands or tens of thousands of writes, it wears out |
| 00:44.56 | concept10 | Thats why I like gnome over kde, They are slow and steady on working on the whole desktop package |
| 00:45.10 | enveezee | I've heard they have a lifecycle. thats why I am glad my player has removable storage as well as internal |
| 00:45.20 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: you're about to start another war... |
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| 00:45.41 | enveezee | Wyzard: the internal can be used mostly for settings after I get removable memory that I can replace if it wears out |
| 00:45.45 | mikeX | let's flame ya all :D |
| 00:45.46 | concept10 | No war, just my opinion |
| 00:46.10 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, nobody sane argues about desktop managers |
| 00:46.28 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: heh...i've seen crazy stuff from both |
| 00:47.03 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: at work we had someone using gnome and they were completely lost |
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| 00:47.25 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: when we swtiched them to KDE they were ok...just depends on how smart the end user is |
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| 00:47.41 | karsten | How do you configure smtp auth in exim4? |
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| 00:47.56 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, how do you get lost in gnome? kde has bigger menu and more options .. |
| 00:48.13 | deadcat | karsten: what up... just got home from linuxworld few hrs ago (= |
| 00:48.24 | karsten | deadcat: I'll be there tomorrow. |
| 00:48.26 | karsten | At work ATM> |
| 00:48.27 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, oh, Okay, they were coming from windows |
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| 00:48.33 | karsten | deadcat: ... got Xen? ;-) |
| 00:48.36 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: um...just wasn't familiar with the interface. couldn't figure out settings... |
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| 00:48.59 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: the biggest problem was that if he saved a file to his "desktop" it would not appear there unless he specifically refreshed it |
| 00:49.14 | deadcat | karsten: nah.. no xen. heheh. i will be there on thur.. want to see some photos of today? |
| 00:49.24 | mikeX | is it me or is lablgtk fucking weird? |
| 00:49.27 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: and not being a computer geek and just wanting to get his work done it would irritate him |
| 00:49.30 | enveezee | Wyzard: why would the flash have a lifecycle shorter than say ram or something I wonder |
| 00:50.14 | Wyzard | enveezee: The way it works is completely different from RAM |
| 00:50.14 | karsten | deadcat: Sure. |
| 00:50.23 | karsten | deadcat: ...and I won't even bitch about being on dialup. |
| 00:50.27 | karsten | deadcat: ... coz I'm not. |
| 00:50.31 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 00:50.32 | deadcat | damn |
| 00:50.34 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, yeah, files not appearing on the desktop irked me when I first start using linux myself, I started with kde and then went to gnome |
| 00:50.48 | Eto_Demerzel | enveezee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEPROM |
| 00:50.54 | enveezee | :) |
| 00:50.55 | Wyzard | enveezee: Erasing flash involves electrons somehow tunneling through a barrier of some sort... and after too many times, the barrier breaks down |
| 00:50.56 | karsten | dpkg: exim4 smtpauth is see http://www.chrissearle.org/archives/2005/05/19/sendmail-exim4/ |
| 00:50.56 | dpkg | karsten: okay |
| 00:51.10 | liable | deadcat: did you get to hump tux again? :) |
| 00:51.14 | karsten | dpkg: forget exim4 smtpauth |
| 00:51.14 | dpkg | karsten: i forgot exim4 smtpauth |
| 00:51.22 | karsten | dpkg: exim4 smtpauth is see http://www.chrissearle.org/archives/2005/05/19/sendmail-exim4/ or find your own damned reference. |
| 00:51.22 | dpkg | okay, karsten |
| 00:51.31 | deadcat | liable: nah.. i told him i grapped his ass last year (= |
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| 00:51.40 | deadcat | karsten: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050808.linux.world.expo/ |
| 00:51.42 | karsten | liable: I want the BSD devilettes to show again. |
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| 00:52.04 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: well KDE does a better job of providing what non-techie ppl need |
| 00:52.04 | liable | karsten: sexy? |
| 00:52.12 | liable | never seen em.. |
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| 00:52.58 | Wyzard | Eto_Demerzel: KDE puts more focus on eyecandy, if that's what you mean |
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| 00:53.05 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: all i really care about is firefox, thunderbird and python...the rest is not important |
| 00:53.07 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, thats just an opinion rather that fact. I understand you talk about non-techie. I consider myself a technie, but I get lost in linux in general sometimes. |
| 00:53.07 | Wyzard | Eto_Demerzel: GNOME makes usability a high priority though |
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| 00:54.18 | Eto_Demerzel | Wyzard: well yah but the problem is that the "desktop" not refreshing might be a nuissance in your and my world but the end of the world for someone who's used to windows |
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| 00:54.48 | Eto_Demerzel | Wyzard: i like anything that makes ppl leave me alone and shutup |
| 00:54.48 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, from time to time when I look at my process list, I tell myself I want to learn what every process is doing then I back off because there is too much stuff to know. I have no clue how developers remember this crap. |
| 00:55.16 | Wyzard | Eto_Demerzel: If you mean updating itself when files are added or removed, it does |
| 00:55.25 | enveezee | I think I should just say fuck asking you guys stuff and just sit here and read this wikipedia all day |
| 00:55.30 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: its their job...i make it a point to stay away from hacking because i can waste days sorting out the details |
| 00:55.31 | Wyzard | Eto_Demerzel: (Provided FAM is working properly, but that's true of KDE too) |
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| 00:55.48 | concept10 | enveezee, yeah, do that |
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| 00:56.44 | brady | is it possible send a browser an xml file with an associated (xsl) style sheet, and the browser applies the style sheet? |
| 00:56.45 | Eto_Demerzel | Wyzard: i have no clue what was wrong with the box he was running. we started him on GNOME and it wouldnt run right...then i figured i'd switch him to KDE and it worked fine. |
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| 00:57.05 | brady | or does the xml->html conversion need to happen server side? |
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| 00:57.26 | Eto_Demerzel | enveezee: omg....i read the wikipedia everyday...its how i waste time at work |
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| 00:57.40 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, he just probably gained some experience with linux in general. I bet if you stuck him on gnome now, he wouldnt complain as much |
| 00:57.55 | FieldySnuts | yes he would (gnome) |
| 00:58.02 | Wyzard | Eto_Demerzel: Well, that's an isolated event... I run GNOME on several systems, running sid even, and it's fine |
| 00:58.05 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: heh...i'm not here to "convert" people...i just wanna get by and pretend i know stuff |
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| 00:58.19 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, sounds like a plan! |
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| 00:59.00 | concept10 | Eto_Demerzel, is your employer looking for some GNOME guys? I know how to apt-get install and everything |
| 00:59.01 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: i gave up on the regular net admins at my work when they told me that an xlib sync'ing error was a problem with my RAM |
| 00:59.18 | Eto_Demerzel | concept10: um...i dunthinkso |
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| 00:59.34 | enveezee | Eto_Demerzel: yeah well closest thing I get to a computer at work is a motorola 2-way radio or a slim client running windows server |
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| 00:59.57 | Eto_Demerzel | enveezee: sounds like fun :) |
| 01:00.08 | keenan | how come links works fine except when TERM=linux, in which case it has rendering bugs? |
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| 01:00.30 | robin_sz | morning girls ... |
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| 01:01.17 | Eto_Demerzel | so nobody knows how to make dhcpd also allow internet access to anything i plug upto it? |
| 01:01.26 | robin_sz | quick question for you ... imagine I want to set up a wireless hotspot, with the usual "pay for a ticket" access control .. is there a debian package or other well-thought-of project I should look at? |
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| 01:01.45 | Eto_Demerzel | i have two network cards... eth1 is connected to a DSL router and eth0 is connected to my laptop via crossover |
| 01:01.57 | Wyzard | Eto_Demerzel: apt-cache show ipmasq |
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| 01:02.19 | enveezee | heh this wikipedia got me laughing my ass off |
| 01:02.20 | Eto_Demerzel | Wyzard: i had a feeling someone would say that....hmm after my coffee break |
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| 01:04.14 | abrotman | Wyzard: i already told him that |
| 01:04.19 | abrotman | Wyzard: like .. 1.5 hours ago |
| 01:04.37 | Eto_Demerzel | enveezee: try reading some of the "controversial" articles like big bang theory...creationists nuke those every once in a while |
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| 01:05.57 | xD | sterling.freenode.net |
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| 01:06.19 | robin_sz | there are creationists on the internet? |
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| 01:06.33 | FieldySnuts | they are everywhere to annoy you |
| 01:06.35 | FieldySnuts | ~politics |
| 01:06.35 | apt | Yerp. Everyone has their own opinion. Please discuss them elsewhere. This is #debian, not #politics. [If you wanna discuss politics, that's cool, just do it elsewhere.] |
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| 01:06.59 | robin_sz | coo. I thought they were all driving around in donkey carts and wearing black |
| 01:07.00 | Eto_Demerzel | robin_sz: i knew a creationist that had a PhD in geology and worked for an oil company surveying new wells |
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| 01:07.15 | Eto_Demerzel | robin_sz: if you think about it for a while you'll see how messed up that is... |
| 01:07.16 | robin_sz | yeah, 'k |
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| 01:07.35 | robin_sz | right . abck to my wireless hotspot question ;) |
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| 01:07.36 | abrotman | Eto_Demerzel: stop |
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| 01:07.43 | Eto_Demerzel | what did i do? |
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| 01:07.46 | trend | anyone use SELinux in here with debian? |
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| 01:08.03 | abrotman | Eto_Demerzel: stop discussing religion/polititcs |
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| 01:08.21 | Eto_Demerzel | ah lol |
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| 01:08.41 | saturne | hi |
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| 01:10.01 | saturne | it is possible using rsync with ssh with a different port, as rsync [options] -e 'ssh' -p 2222 or rsync [options] -e 'ssh -p 2222'? |
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| 01:10.59 | abrotman | man rsync? |
| 01:11.03 | Eto_Demerzel | Wyzard: are you serious about ipmasq being the only way? this stuff is incredibly complicated |
| 01:11.11 | abrotman | no ti's not |
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| 01:11.17 | abrotman | apt-get install ipmasq |
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| 01:11.25 | Eto_Demerzel | Wyzard: i just installed it and i'm looking at /etc/ipmasq/rules/ |
| 01:11.28 | FieldySnuts | damn that's annoying |
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| 01:11.49 | saturne | oups, an error.. lol it's possible |
| 01:11.56 | saturne | abrotman, no :) |
| 01:11.59 | saturne | thanks |
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| 01:12.40 | karsten | dpkg: forget exim4 smtpauth |
| 01:12.40 | dpkg | i forgot exim4 smtpauth, karsten |
| 01:12.48 | theeil | pppoe is not working for me |
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| 01:13.00 | Eto_Demerzel | theeil: that's cuz ppoe works for me now! |
| 01:13.06 | karsten | dpkg: exim4 smtpauth is read /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH |
| 01:13.06 | dpkg | karsten: okay |
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| 01:14.02 | Eto_Demerzel | geez i wish my gf was as smart as dpkg |
| 01:14.19 | abrotman | Eto_Demerzel: she's a blowup doll? .. i mean .. fuck .. dpkg is just a bot |
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| 01:14.25 | theeil | i ran the pppoe configuration utility and clicked connect now at the end but nothing happened, anyone know of any simple things i could have missed or done wrong? (isp=sympatico) |
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| 01:14.48 | dvs | your ISP is Sympatico. That's what's wrong |
| 01:14.56 | FieldySnuts | indeed |
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| 01:15.16 | theeil | dvs: what's wrong with sympatico? |
| 01:15.17 | FieldySnuts | plus, it's annoying tryign to use pppo{a,e} directly on your system, much easier to pickup a dsl "router" and let it do that crap |
| 01:15.26 | dvs | yup |
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| 01:15.52 | FieldySnuts | pppo{a,e} f*ckin sucks (though I use it) |
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| 01:16.17 | dvs | theeil: They always manage to mess up even the simplest things. |
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| 01:16.54 | Xik0 | i'm running SID with Gnome, and i want to try xfce, but i'm afraid that xfce packages mess up with my menu gnome like kde packges. this can happen? |
| 01:16.58 | theeil | dvs: ok, but i am not about to change isp, what can i do to work around their crap? |
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| 01:17.18 | Eto_Demerzel | theeil: when i still used ppoe the debian setup utility always worked provided that i had the proper kernel modules installed |
| 01:17.36 | abrotman | Xik0: use the menu system |
| 01:17.37 | Eto_Demerzel | theeil: that's assuming that your ISP is configured correctly |
| 01:18.00 | theeil | well it seems as though i do (intel e100...) |
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| 01:18.04 | FieldySnuts | which is a far jump when you're talking sympatico |
| 01:18.17 | dragonfly | why does Debian not like my monitor? it is a Dell 17" LCD |
| 01:18.17 | theeil | it's working fine now on gentoo w/ rp-pppoe |
| 01:18.23 | FieldySnuts | "Dell" |
| 01:18.31 | dragonfly | yeah :S |
| 01:18.50 | scarynetworkguy | !tell dragonfly about smart questions. |
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| 01:19.20 | theeil | dragonfly: it likes my dell 17" LCD monitor just fine ;) |
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| 01:20.10 | theeil | it just "does not like" my ISP |
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| 01:21.13 | dvs | theeil: I'd look at the chatscript logs and see what's wrong there. |
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| 01:22.17 | dragonfly | i'm sure its probably just a setting somewhere....long as I know that I "should" or "does" work without a whole lot of rewriting configs and such I have hope |
| 01:22.38 | dragonfly | a little bit is OK, but I get easily lost and discouraged when it gets to be hours and hours of work |
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| 01:23.10 | scarynetworkguy | dragonfly: Have you even tried reading the docs? |
| 01:23.24 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: you have no idea how hard that is! |
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| 01:23.38 | theeil | dvs: OK, where do i find this log? |
| 01:23.48 | dvs | theeil: I think it's "plog" |
| 01:24.08 | dragonfly | little bit, i'm still currently researching the problem\ |
| 01:24.10 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: True. I'm just wacky that way I guess. |
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| 01:24.30 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i use cisco manuals to keep my car from rolling downhill |
| 01:24.42 | theeil | dvs, can i read it w/o booting debian? |
| 01:24.43 | scarynetworkguy | dragonfly: And were you planning to, at some point, tell us what the problem is? |
| 01:25.01 | dvs | theeil: I'm not sure where it's kept |
| 01:25.03 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I use HP-UX doc for that. |
| 01:25.08 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 01:25.33 | marccd | how can I list the files in a .deb file? |
| 01:25.38 | robin_sz | hmmm. NoCatAuth seems to be the wireless access control technology of choice ... |
| 01:25.51 | dvs | marccd: dpkg -L |
| 01:26.24 | marccd | dvs: but the package is not installed |
| 01:26.37 | dragonfly | yeah, i don't remember the exact error message but it was something along the lines of the X server being unable to start, but it will run in command line just fine |
| 01:26.38 | marccd | dvs: --content |
| 01:26.42 | dvs | marccd: Then look on the Debian website |
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| 01:28.20 | theeil | dvs: in /var/log/syslog i found i pile of stuff from pppd that looks good (no error) |
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| 01:28.47 | kingtux | installing deb for the 1st time right now....Just felt like letting everyone know |
| 01:28.50 | kingtux | netinstall |
| 01:28.55 | kingtux | can't wait for it to be done |
| 01:29.03 | dvs | theeil: No connection either. |
| 01:29.08 | scarynetworkguy | dragonfly: Could you vague it up a little? We are in danger of maybe getting some useful information here. |
| 01:29.09 | kingtux | thats real geeky |
| 01:29.29 | Puppowa | hey guys, i'm running into a bizarre problem... when i reboot now, it seems that i lose a bunch of device files, including the whole /dev/input directory, and things like /dev/dsp, /dev/audio, mixer, etc. when i run the /dev/MAKEDEV script, it doesn't seem to restore them... any ideas? |
| 01:29.31 | dvs | theeil: Until you see that #*#*@!#@%@%@%@#$ junk, you don't have a connection. |
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| 01:29.44 | dvs | Puppowa: udev? |
| 01:30.01 | Puppowa | dvs: not sure what it is? i can look into it though... |
| 01:30.04 | chealer | kingtux: you can watch TV meanwhile to compensate the geekiness level |
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| 01:30.33 | FieldySnuts | @annoy dragonfly |
| 01:30.34 | ravenbird | dragonfly: Oooooh, aaah, Hmmm???? |
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| 01:30.59 | litage | what advantages are there for getting 2x1GB ram sticks rather than 5x512MB? |
| 01:31.23 | vinson | i *accidentally* deleted /etc/bind/named.conf, how can i retrieve the original? |
| 01:31.30 | abrotman | 2GB is less than 2.5GB |
| 01:31.34 | Wyzard | litage: More slots free so you can add more later :-) |
| 01:31.43 | theeil | dvs: "#*#*@!#@%@%@%@#$" I have never seen anything like that, on gentoo, mandrake, .....so on |
| 01:31.54 | vinson | i did apt-get remove bind9, then apt-get install bind9 with no luck |
| 01:32.09 | dvs | theeil: Have you looked at the logs on gentoo, mandrake,... ? |
| 01:32.11 | abrotman | did you purge it ? |
| 01:32.16 | vinson | no |
| 01:32.22 | vinson | apt-get purge? |
| 01:32.24 | SimonRaven | vinson: dpkg -x the deb somewhere |
| 01:32.29 | abrotman | vinson: man dpkg .. --force-miss-conf or some crap |
| 01:32.37 | SimonRaven | --force-confmiss |
| 01:32.47 | SimonRaven | the miss-conf-contest |
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| 01:33.09 | abrotman | SimonRaven: you gonna do the evening gown? |
| 01:33.19 | SimonRaven | who can configure bind9 for authoritative DNS services in the least amount of time |
| 01:33.34 | litage | thanks Wyzard |
| 01:33.50 | Puppowa | dvs: ah thanks! it looks liek i just need to run udevstart and it reinstalls them |
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| 01:34.17 | dvs | Puppowa: no prob. |
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| 01:34.29 | abrotman | spatula? |
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| 01:35.07 | FieldySnuts | spatula city? |
| 01:35.13 | FieldySnuts | "I liked the store so much, I bought it!" |
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| 01:35.25 | dvs | you bought the company? |
| 01:35.33 | FieldySnuts | UHF |
| 01:35.41 | dvs | I know. |
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| 01:36.00 | FieldySnuts | sure ya did |
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| 01:37.03 | nautiazn85 | If I don't load the module for a certain device... is that an effective way of saving poewr on a laptop? Or does the device still consume power? |
| 01:37.31 | SimonRaven | enabling power saving features would work better i think |
| 01:38.00 | nautiazn85 | simonraven: i mean in addition to all the power saving features |
| 01:38.02 | abrotman | !uhf |
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| 01:38.45 | SimonRaven | power is still going through AFAIK. the drivers are just an interface to the hardware |
| 01:38.58 | nautiazn85 | simonraven: that's what i thought |
| 01:39.00 | nautiazn85 | cool thanks |
| 01:39.10 | theeil | i may have found it, can someone confirm: /etc/network/interfaces should have iface eth0 inet ppp\n provider myisp (from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-high-pppoehttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-high-pppoe) |
| 01:39.16 | SimonRaven | probably less than if they were in actual use, but the computer still knows the stuff is there |
| 01:39.29 | SimonRaven | oi vey |
| 01:39.52 | SimonRaven | theeil: /join #flood |
| 01:39.59 | abrotman | did anyone tell him to try mtu ? |
| 01:40.27 | kingtux | just did a net install |
| 01:40.35 | RvGaTe | http://pc.rvgate.nl/ <- whahooo, im soooo proud of it, it actually works when you "wake" one up |
| 01:40.40 | SimonRaven | i set mine there as well as in /etc/ppp/options |
| 01:40.42 | kingtux | the only package i installed was mailserver |
| 01:40.43 | dvs | !beer kingtux |
| 01:40.59 | kingtux | how can i get kde and gnome installed |
| 01:41.09 | kingtux | also good sources list for apt |
| 01:41.10 | dvs | !tell kingtux -about kde |
| 01:41.14 | asg | kingtux: /msg dpkg install kde, /msg dpkg install gnome |
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| 01:41.34 | SimonRaven | weee, 'nother 'split |
| 01:41.47 | theeil | always use dsl-provider? |
| 01:41.50 | SimonRaven | kingtux: the ones you have are good. |
| 01:42.06 | kingtux | what ones?? |
| 01:42.08 | PandaKun | yo |
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| 01:42.13 | PandaKun | can anyone help me install SNMP v3? |
| 01:42.14 | dvs | nes |
| 01:42.15 | SimonRaven | theeil: that's the file name. it could well be flignerfishduder, but it has to exist |
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| 01:42.40 | abrotman | lilo: stop this crazy ride |
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| 01:43.03 | kicker_ | how do i merge other menus debian menu (like kde)? |
| 01:43.26 | abrotman | install menu |
| 01:43.49 | theeil | SimonRaven: where should this file be? |
| 01:43.58 | SimonRaven | PandaKun: install the net-snmp stuff. it handles all 3 versions |
| 01:44.12 | SimonRaven | theeil: /etc/ppp |
| 01:44.24 | SimonRaven | run pppoeconf |
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| 01:44.39 | abrotman | asg: dance |
| 01:44.43 | asg | !bounce |
| 01:44.44 | dpkg | BOIIIIINNNNGGG! |
| 01:44.46 | SimonRaven | too late |
| 01:44.48 | abrotman | !dance |
| 01:44.55 | FieldySnuts | !gender |
| 01:44.57 | FieldySnuts | ~gender |
| 01:44.57 | apt | I'm sexless |
| 01:45.04 | SimonRaven | @gender |
| 01:45.04 | kicker_ | abrotman ok thank will try |
| 01:45.05 | ravenbird | I'm not sure |
| 01:45.09 | Eto_Demerzel | hi again guys |
| 01:45.13 | abrotman | asg: prize FieldySnuts |
| 01:45.15 | SimonRaven | hello |
| 01:45.20 | asg | abrotman: not on your life |
| 01:45.25 | FieldySnuts | wtf is prize |
| 01:45.26 | SimonRaven | (and we're not all guys) |
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| 01:45.32 | abrotman | asg: love SimonRaven |
| 01:45.34 | FieldySnuts | god damn it that's getting fucking annoying |
| 01:45.38 | abrotman | !prize FieldySnuts |
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| 01:45.41 | SimonRaven | (i am, but not everyone is) |
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| 01:45.53 | SimonRaven | the splitting? yeh |
| 01:45.59 | SimonRaven | ohnoz |
| 01:45.59 | Eto_Demerzel | i got dhcpd to provide internet access without going into complicated ipmasq rules if anyone is interested |
| 01:46.07 | abrotman | asg: eat dpkg |
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| 01:46.13 | Aquarina | hi |
| 01:46.17 | FieldySnuts | someone do !hire Phated for me ;) |
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| 01:46.22 | abrotman | !hire Phated |
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| 01:46.23 | asg | abrotman: that's too much cruft for anyone to stomach |
| 01:46.24 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
| 01:46.25 | SimonRaven | Eto_Demerzel: post it somewhere, let googlebot find it ;) |
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| 01:46.26 | theeil | SimonRaven: #flood |
| 01:46.28 | abrotman | asg: heh |
| 01:46.35 | Aquarina | does someone have a scanner? |
| 01:46.41 | FieldySnuts | i'm sure someone does |
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| 01:46.55 | SimonRaven | theeil: did you run pppoeconf yet? |
| 01:47.04 | abrotman | !scanner |
| 01:47.04 | dpkg | scanner is probably a device used to copy an image from a physical source (e.g., photograph) into a computer. Also, ask me about sane |
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| 01:47.08 | Eto_Demerzel | SimonRaven: i don't have accounts to any forums or mailing lists :( |
| 01:47.16 | Aquarina | to which group should i be added to use a scanner? |
| 01:47.19 | SimonRaven | Eto_Demerzel: i meant web site, sorry |
| 01:47.23 | theeil | SimonRaven: yes |
| 01:47.30 | trend | anyone use SELinux in here with debian? Can you use SELinux with the Gre kernel patch or other patchs? |
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| 01:47.51 | FieldySnuts | wouldn't count on it, generally you use one patch, and if you try to do others it fails |
| 01:47.54 | Aquarina | do i have to change something in the conf files of sane? |
| 01:47.56 | SimonRaven | theeil: so the file should be there. and by default the init scripts should run it on boot if you told it to do so |
| 01:48.05 | Eto_Demerzel | well anyway, in case it helps anyone in the near future you can put "option routers a.b.c.d." where a.b.c.d is the static ip address of ethX that dhcpd runs from |
| 01:48.05 | trend | FieldySnuts: that makes sense |
| 01:48.16 | trend | well, is SELinux the new bes4t? |
| 01:48.17 | SimonRaven | trend: grsec2 is rather picky with whome it shares a kernel |
| 01:48.24 | trend | oh |
| 01:48.29 | abrotman | trend: apt-cache search grsec |
| 01:48.29 | SimonRaven | the oroginal too for that matter |
| 01:48.31 | asg | trend: it would likely depend on how much of grsec you patched in. Chances are, they won't work together since there are similarities between the two. |
| 01:48.35 | Eto_Demerzel | that goes in /etc/dhcpd.conf |
| 01:48.37 | SimonRaven | @shoot my typist |
| 01:48.50 | theeil | SimonRaven: i will just try again :( |
| 01:48.55 | trend | I thought grsec is only avail in testing and above? |
| 01:48.56 | Eto_Demerzel | thanks for putting up with me guys...take care |
| 01:49.10 | abrotman | !find grsec sarge |
| 01:49.11 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'grsec' (2): kernel-patch-2.4-grsecurity ;; kernel-patch-grsecurity2. |
| 01:49.12 | FieldySnuts | generaly if you're doing stuff like that you roll your own kernels anyway |
| 01:49.13 | asg | trend: you can patch vanilla kernel.org kernels too |
| 01:49.13 | SimonRaven | @dhcp |
| 01:49.14 | ravenbird | i guess dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol. Ask me about "dhcp client". |
| 01:49.18 | trend | yeah |
| 01:49.20 | FieldySnuts | especially on 2.6 kernels |
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| 01:49.38 | abrotman | @date FieldySnuts |
| 01:49.41 | FieldySnuts | yay |
| 01:49.49 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: not nearly as good as last time :) |
| 01:49.56 | FieldySnuts | oh god when it picked EE haha |
| 01:50.07 | FieldySnuts | i had it pick caphuso once, whom was really mad and banned me |
| 01:50.13 | daedalus_ | FieldySnuts: you can now carry a pair of coconuts |
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| 01:50.17 | abrotman | i thought he banned dpkg |
| 01:50.19 | FieldySnuts | I already was |
| 01:50.31 | FieldySnuts | maybe, but at least me, maybe both of us |
| 01:50.36 | SimonRaven | @dhcp without fuss is <reply><Eto_Demerzel> you can put "option routers a.b.c.d." where a.b.c.d is the static ip address of ethX that dhcpd runs from |
| 01:50.37 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: okay |
| 01:51.11 | FieldySnuts | oh and blaireau too |
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| 01:51.25 | abrotman | !dachs |
| 01:51.30 | FieldySnuts | gone? |
| 01:51.30 | abrotman | !dachs FieldySnuts |
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| 01:51.31 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 01:51.32 | SimonRaven | @forget dhcp without fuss |
| 01:51.32 | FieldySnuts | oh |
| 01:51.33 | ravenbird | i forgot dhcp without fuss, SimonRaven |
| 01:51.43 | SimonRaven | it's under dhcp ipmasq |
| 01:51.55 | FieldySnuts | apt: dachs $1 is <reply> $1: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 01:51.55 | apt | okay, FieldySnuts |
| 01:51.59 | FieldySnuts | ~dachs test |
| 01:51.59 | apt | test: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 01:52.01 | FieldySnuts | ;D |
| 01:52.20 | abrotman | !tasso FieldySnuts |
| 01:52.21 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: tasso tasso tasso tasso fungo fungo serpente oooh serpenteeee! |
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| 01:52.31 | FieldySnuts | heh, my conspirator |
| 01:52.32 | abrotman | i'm corrupting th ebots |
| 01:52.42 | abrotman | !blaireau FieldySnuts |
| 01:52.43 | FieldySnuts | tasso is my favorite, italiano? |
| 01:52.44 | dpkg | ENOUGH! |
| 01:52.46 | FieldySnuts | HAHAHAHAH |
| 01:52.47 | abrotman | see .. no workie |
| 01:52.50 | asg | abrotman: how long since they went lowercase on the n=, i=? |
| 01:53.10 | abrotman | asg: they moved to new ircd code over the weekend i gathered .. i was on a boat |
| 01:53.17 | SimonRaven | asg: since the move to hyperion |
| 01:53.22 | FieldySnuts | ~tasso ravenbird |
| 01:53.22 | apt | ravenbird: tasso tasso tasso tasso fungo fungo serpente oooh serpenteeee! |
| 01:53.25 | asg | abrotman: earlier today, it was uppercase here N=, I= |
| 01:53.27 | asg | SimonRaven: ^^ |
| 01:53.28 | SimonRaven | over the last coupla days |
| 01:53.34 | trend | hmm.. well, how would you'll compare selinux with grsecurity2 ?I just need to run a webserver with ssh.. will they both provide me with the same level of security? |
| 01:53.36 | abrotman | asg: oh .. didn't notice the lower case |
| 01:53.50 | SimonRaven | trend: they do similar things |
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| 01:53.58 | abrotman | asg: i'm so slow .. i thought oscar mayer was the king of germany |
| 01:53.59 | FieldySnuts | ~say ravenbird: fefefe is <reply> fefefe |
| 01:53.59 | apt | ravenbird: fefefe is <reply> fefefe |
| 01:54.04 | FieldySnuts | didn't think so |
| 01:54.07 | trend | what is the name of it gr2secrutiy? because google doesn't pupll it up |
| 01:54.08 | asg | trend: se will be far more powerful but is still to immature. |
| 01:54.13 | kamaraju | On a 2.6.11-1-686 kernel, I tried installing madwifi drivers. I did m-a update, m-a prepare, m-a auto-install madwifi. But after that if I do, modprobe ath_hal, I am getting an error saying FATAL: Error inserting ath_hal (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/ath_hal.ko): Invalid module format . What should I do? |
| 01:54.20 | SimonRaven | spelling it correctly helps |
| 01:54.25 | Puppowa | hey guys, thanks for clueing me into udev... after adding udevstart to rc2.d, the sound and mouse are working fine |
| 01:54.26 | FieldySnuts | ever worked with acls? don't. talk about annoying |
| 01:54.48 | SimonRaven | and fucking unstable on ppc |
| 01:54.53 | abrotman | kamaraju: sid ? |
| 01:54.56 | FieldySnuts | SimonRaven: don't fucking swear |
| 01:55.01 | Puppowa | unfortunately now i have a new problem -- starting a gnome console doesn't work, i get a message that i couldnt create a child process... looked that up and it seems like a udev issue, but i can't see how to resolve it... |
| 01:55.04 | kamaraju | abrotman: Yes. I am using Sid. |
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| 01:55.18 | SimonRaven | i'll fuckijng swear if i fucking want to, fuck. ok, fuck? |
| 01:55.20 | abrotman | kamaraju: what happens if you compile your kernel with gcc3.x and your module with 4.x ? |
| 01:55.25 | SimonRaven | hehehe |
| 01:55.26 | FieldySnuts | hehe |
| 01:55.29 | FieldySnuts | @ff SimonRaven |
| 01:55.30 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: fartfish |
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| 01:55.44 | asg | SimonRaven: iirc, fuck is the 2nd most useful word in the English language, besides 'OK' |
| 01:55.59 | marccd | what is the difference between athlon-4 and athlon-xp *CFLAGS* ? |
| 01:55.59 | abrotman | asg: i prefer 'more' |
| 01:56.09 | SimonRaven | asg: fuck yeh |
| 01:56.09 | frem|desktop | I just got Debian installed, and now it's spewing out "rtl8154.c: Rx status -84" nonstop! |
| 01:56.11 | asg | abrotman: more is for sucks, less is the shit |
| 01:56.12 | abrotman | marccd: i think athlon4 is amd64 |
| 01:56.15 | kamaraju | abrotman: I did not compile my kernel. I am using debian's kernel-image. Was it compiled with 3.x? |
| 01:56.20 | abrotman | asg: more more more! |
| 01:56.22 | marccd | abrotman: ? |
| 01:56.23 | FieldySnuts | @blaireau abrotman |
| 01:56.24 | ravenbird | abrotman: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau serpent! oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 01:56.26 | abrotman | kamaraju: i have no idea :) |
| 01:56.32 | asg | abrotman: less less less |
| 01:56.36 | abrotman | kamaraju: it was a wondering question |
| 01:56.38 | FieldySnuts | ~blaireau me |
| 01:56.38 | apt | fieldysnuts: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau serpent! oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 01:56.43 | FieldySnuts | wooties |
| 01:56.44 | abrotman | asg: you don't take direction very well |
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| 01:56.58 | SimonRaven | asg: that way --> |
| 01:57.01 | asg | abrotman: I do, I went in a completely different direction though |
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| 01:57.01 | SimonRaven | ;p |
| 01:57.01 | abrotman | asg: see . uppercase now |
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| 01:57.20 | SimonRaven | the wandering case |
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| 01:57.22 | asg | abrotman: wtf |
| 01:57.32 | abrotman | asg: if i were lilo .. maybe i could tell you |
| 01:57.38 | frem|desktop | I can't make it stop! As soon as it's booted it just goes on "rtl8154.c: Rx status -84". I can't seem to kill it with Ctrl+C or Ctrl+D either. |
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| 01:58.23 | asg | SimonRaven: do you know if asuffield is involved with the new code base? |
| 01:58.29 | SimonRaven | NFC |
| 01:58.37 | abrotman | asg: do you read planet.d.o ? |
| 01:58.47 | asg | abrotman: yeah, seems someone isn't too happy |
| 01:59.09 | abrotman | asg: you think? |
| 01:59.14 | FieldySnuts | someone who realizes this may get them severely larted do this: |
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| 01:59.33 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.37 | asg | FieldySnuts: 22:05 < FieldySnuts> someone who realizes this may get them severely larted do this: |
| 01:59.40 | asg | 22:05 -!- sgeigerbot [n=user@h216-170-007-123.adsl.navix.net] has joined #debian |
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| 01:59.43 | asg | FieldySnuts: that should be qotd'd |
| 01:59.46 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:59.53 | FieldySnuts | i don't know how to |
| 02:00.05 | FieldySnuts | do what i asked too, slaves |
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| 02:00.21 | asg | FieldySnuts: don't push it or you will get a nasty skin rash |
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| 02:00.29 | Puppowa | anyone know if i can safely remove udev and go back to devfs? |
| 02:00.42 | FieldySnuts | :x |
| 02:00.49 | FieldySnuts | sgeigerbot: please, leave the building |
| 02:01.09 | sgeigerbot | FieldySnuts: Cruising for a bruising. |
| 02:01.17 | Aquarina | i can't have access to the scanner as normal user |
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| 02:01.54 | FieldySnuts | so stick it in a new group (scanner maybe) and shove yourself into that group |
| 02:02.03 | SimonRaven | Puppowa: neither is great, but devfs is worse |
| 02:02.06 | Aquarina | should i be listed in a special gloup? |
| 02:02.21 | abrotman | i hate gloup |
| 02:02.34 | SimonRaven | "ooh, gloup for dinner!" |
| 02:02.36 | Aquarina | *group |
| 02:02.37 | asg | !qotd135 |
| 02:02.37 | dpkg | < FieldySnuts> someone who realizes this may get them severely larted do this: -!- sgeigerbot [n=user@h216-170-007-123.adsl.navix.net] has joined #debian |
| 02:02.43 | FieldySnuts | heh nice |
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| 02:02.49 | SimonRaven | Aquarina: scanner group probably exists already |
| 02:02.57 | Aquarina | yes |
| 02:03.01 | FieldySnuts | may i suggest a space between my sentance end and the join though, looks like i said it |
| 02:03.08 | Aquarina | i've been in both scanner and sane |
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| 02:03.17 | Aquarina | but still no luck |
| 02:03.19 | liable | did you log out? |
| 02:03.23 | Puppowa | SimonRaven, ah |
| 02:03.23 | Aquarina | no |
| 02:03.27 | Aquarina | should i? |
| 02:03.33 | Puppowa | i guess i can always use bash within emacs... ;) |
| 02:03.39 | liable | yes |
| 02:03.46 | Aquarina | k |
| 02:03.49 | Aquarina | let's try |
| 02:03.59 | SimonRaven | so adduser your_user scanner, log out, log in, then chown root:scanner /dev/dev_scanner_symlink_points_to ; chmod 660 /same/fucking/file |
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| 02:04.29 | FieldySnuts | pissy pissy |
| 02:04.36 | SimonRaven | tired tired |
| 02:04.37 | frem|desktop | does apt-get have some sort of search function? |
| 02:04.40 | sgeigerbot | !php FieldySnuts |
| 02:04.45 | SimonRaven | apt-cache does |
| 02:04.49 | FieldySnuts | ~hack sgeigerbot |
| 02:04.49 | apt | ACTION 0WnZ sgeigerbot and steals all of the p0rn on the hard drive. |
| 02:05.14 | fabsoft | hi |
| 02:05.19 | asg | FieldySnuts: spaces added. Check the fortune source file in 24 hours or so for the better output (http://gimp.shacknet.nu/code/debian/debian-irc-qotd.fortune) |
| 02:05.34 | SimonRaven | oi |
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| 02:05.35 | Aquarina | scanimage -L only shows me my bttv board |
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| 02:06.42 | FieldySnuts | yeck |
| 02:06.51 | FieldySnuts | ~yorkshiresmite sgeigerbot |
| 02:06.55 | FieldySnuts | bleh |
| 02:06.56 | Aquarina | what can i do to make scanimage detect my scanner? |
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| 02:07.05 | SimonRaven | some of them are priceless |
| 02:07.13 | Aquarina | sane-find-scanner detects it! |
| 02:07.27 | asg | sgeigerbot: :) |
| 02:07.47 | FieldySnuts | @aussiesmite sgeigerbot |
| 02:07.48 | ravenbird | sgeigerbot: what the do-dar are you drinking mate |
| 02:07.50 | SimonRaven | !qotd8 |
| 02:07.50 | dpkg | <Michiel1983> dpkg: I have problems with boot for the 2.6.9 kernel, I got a kernel panic:Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,3) On undernet they told me to: go to irc.freenode.net, join #debian and ask dpkg about bobbitt |
| 02:08.04 | sgeigerbot | ravenbird: Fat Tire. |
| 02:08.04 | ravenbird | bugger all, i dunno, sgeigerbot |
| 02:08.10 | asg | !qotd6 |
| 02:08.10 | dpkg | <d0ugie> kickin it real on efnet, doing takeovers on #hack manually, typing really fast to mode -o everyone <sussudio> d0ugie: can you stop being a sad wanker? |
| 02:08.24 | SimonRaven | @dict sad wanker |
| 02:08.28 | ravenbird | could not find definition for sad wanker |
| 02:08.29 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 02:08.35 | fabsoft | where i can find files that contains the list of packages available onto sources.list ? |
| 02:08.45 | sgeigerbot | !Fat Tire is amber ale from New Belgium Brwing Company, For Collins, CO USA |
| 02:08.45 | dpkg | okay, sgeigerbot |
| 02:08.46 | asg | fabsoft: apt-cache search |
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| 02:08.52 | Puppowa | damn this thing is crippled |
| 02:09.01 | asg | fabsoft: tangentially, /msg dpkg cd contents |
| 02:09.03 | Puppowa | i can't even ssh anywhere because it can't create a pseudo-terminal |
| 02:09.23 | SimonRaven | so get rid of udev and use real a /dev |
| 02:09.29 | FieldySnuts | yeah |
| 02:09.35 | Aquarina | is there a way to make scanimage detect my scanner? |
| 02:09.41 | fabsoft | no, i wanna know in that file resides the conntant of the sources list |
| 02:09.44 | Puppowa | im not sure how to get rid of it |
| 02:09.49 | SimonRaven | that's one of the many reasons why i ditched it on most of my machines |
| 02:09.55 | fabsoft | because i wanna share it to 2 pcs |
| 02:09.57 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: are you simonrvn with some vowels? |
| 02:09.57 | Puppowa | can i just not start it? |
| 02:10.02 | asg | !qotd1 |
| 02:10.02 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
| 02:10.05 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: indeed |
| 02:10.06 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: udevsmite $1 is <action> randomly deletes entries in /dev for $1, then magically makes them reappear with different names, and bogus permissions |
| 02:10.07 | ravenbird | okay, FieldySnuts |
| 02:10.15 | FieldySnuts | @udevsmite Puppowa |
| 02:10.17 | SimonRaven | hehehe |
| 02:10.26 | PandaKun | yo guys |
| 02:10.30 | PandaKun | "Resolving www.dreamro.net... failed: Host not found." any idea how to fix that? |
| 02:10.43 | asg | PandaKun: fix /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:10.48 | stew | PandaKun: man resolv.conf |
| 02:10.51 | FieldySnuts | set up nameservers in resolv.conf (man resolv.conf) |
| 02:10.54 | PandaKun | odd |
| 02:10.58 | PandaKun | it worked for other file |
| 02:10.59 | PandaKun | files |
| 02:10.59 | Puppowa | oh noes ;( |
| 02:11.09 | PandaKun | why does it work for other files? |
| 02:11.13 | asg | PandaKun: www.dreamro.net. 14399 IN CNAME dreamro.net. |
| 02:11.24 | FieldySnuts | 'files' ? |
| 02:11.26 | PandaKun | so I should?.. |
| 02:11.30 | PandaKun | yeah from sourceforge and such |
| 02:11.32 | asg | PandaKun: and what other file are you talking about? |
| 02:11.41 | fabsoft | anyone know where is the files contains the list of packages and info ? |
| 02:11.44 | PandaKun | sourceforge files such as Cacti etc |
| 02:11.51 | PandaKun | apt-cache search. |
| 02:11.51 | asg | !qotd73 |
| 02:11.51 | dpkg | qotd73 is probably <wokker> initech, i thought greycat disliked him as well, but then i read that he wanted to lick him ... i was most confused |
| 02:11.55 | FieldySnuts | echo "nameserver 4.2.2.4" > /etc/resolv.conf to get started at least, this WILL blow out anything existing in there |
| 02:12.02 | fabsoft | PandaKun, i wanna share that file ! |
| 02:12.05 | FieldySnuts | but you'll be able to resolve |
| 02:12.13 | SimonRaven | !qotd19 |
| 02:12.14 | dpkg | from memory, qotd19 is <Overfiend> "PHP 5! Now with Zend-enhanced multicrashing! Reserve your copy today!" |
| 02:12.15 | PandaKun | huh? |
| 02:12.20 | fabsoft | without redownload sources.list on the other machines |
| 02:12.28 | stew | fabsoft: /var/lib/dpkg/available ? |
| 02:12.36 | PandaKun | whoa it worked fieldy |
| 02:12.42 | PandaKun | what on earth is nameserver 4.2.2.4? |
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| 02:12.50 | fabsoft | searching ... |
| 02:12.53 | SimonRaven | !qotd20 |
| 02:12.54 | dpkg | < ceige> dpkg: I'm not stupid! I use MSN! |
| 02:12.58 | stew | a nameserver that the owners of which wish that you weren't using |
| 02:12.59 | asg | !qotd131 |
| 02:12.59 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
| 02:13.12 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 02:13.13 | SimonRaven | hehhehe |
| 02:13.22 | FieldySnuts | !qotd0 |
| 02:13.23 | FieldySnuts | ;x |
| 02:13.23 | PandaKun | lmfao. |
| 02:13.26 | PandaKun | owned |
| 02:13.27 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: They anti-knoppix posse was getting on my nerves. Besides, I got a new gf...and I've been spending a lot of my free time in RL with her and running. I needed a break from work. |
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| 02:13.33 | fabsoft | stew, it is possible to share this file on other machines ? |
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| 02:13.40 | sgeigerbot | s/new/yet another/ |
| 02:13.43 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 02:13.49 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: oh coolo, good for you. got a life, eh? :) good |
| 02:13.50 | FieldySnuts | new std? |
| 02:13.53 | FieldySnuts | wrong window |
| 02:13.59 | stew | fabsoft: why? you don't want to apt-get update on the other machines? |
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| 02:14.03 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: I was seriously burned out. |
| 02:14.03 | fabsoft | without get a wrong system ... |
| 02:14.16 | fabsoft | because my connection is very slow |
| 02:14.22 | asg | sgeigerbot: you've been spending time in RL with her and running? |
| 02:14.28 | SimonRaven | er, s/coolo/cool/ |
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| 02:14.39 | stew | fabsoft: you should probably, instead look at apt-move apt-proxy or apt-cacher |
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| 02:14.46 | sgeigerbot | asg |
| 02:14.49 | sgeigerbot | asg: yes |
| 02:14.59 | SimonRaven | @qotd27 |
| 02:15.00 | asg | sgeigerbot: that can get you into trouble in some states |
| 02:15.02 | SimonRaven | !qotd27 |
| 02:15.03 | dpkg | <yevgeniy2> !sest <yevgeniy2> !test <yevgeniy2> !test <yevgeniy2> !test -!- yevgeniy2 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood] <dpkg> No, yevgeniy2, you're not online any more. |
| 02:15.03 | fabsoft | ok |
| 02:15.10 | stew | fabsoft: you can *maybe* share that file if all the machines have *exactly* the same sources.list |
| 02:15.14 | FieldySnuts | hah |
| 02:15.15 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: I see you are pimping for some good causes on your Web site. One of these days I'm going to be more like you...but the computer hobby has really been sucking up my time. |
| 02:15.17 | asg | sgeigerbot: congrats nontheless. We send hugs. |
| 02:15.23 | sgeigerbot | asg: :-) |
| 02:15.37 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: gee, thanks. *blush*. i do what i can |
| 02:15.40 | Nurbs | I very much prefer a plain http proxy over apt-proxy or apt-cacher, mhm |
| 02:15.57 | Nurbs | hooray, sgeigerbot *yawn* ) |
| 02:15.58 | FieldySnuts | ~win sgeigerbot |
| 02:15.59 | apt | Congratulations, sgeigerbot! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:16.17 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: I've been thinking a lot about wikipedia and how I could combine my hobby and my desire to be more helpful to others... |
| 02:16.30 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: and do it on wikipedia? |
| 02:16.37 | FieldySnuts | ~do it |
| 02:16.37 | apt | ACTION does it. |
| 02:16.42 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: some sort of non-profit. (even freenode is an excellent contribution) |
| 02:17.00 | FieldySnuts | i got a non-profit bank account right here ---> |
| 02:17.00 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: no...I mean, coming up with an idea like starting wikipedia. You know, some great idea... |
| 02:17.18 | SimonRaven | oooh, i see |
| 02:17.33 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: learning free software is a good first step. |
| 02:17.43 | Puppowa | ooh, i figured it out... had to add a "devpts" entry to /etc/mtab? |
| 02:17.46 | Puppowa | will it stay there? |
| 02:17.48 | SimonRaven | hey, nano does do syntax highlighting. none that i've seen yet though |
| 02:17.49 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven & asg: I've also been hanging out in #python |
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| 02:17.52 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: for sure |
| 02:17.53 | sgeigerbot | ...as has bob2 |
| 02:17.53 | asg | Puppowa: no |
| 02:18.00 | SimonRaven | oh yeh |
| 02:18.02 | Puppowa | any way to make it permanant? |
| 02:18.14 | sgeigerbot | !love Python |
| 02:18.20 | asg | sgeigerbot: tried python for a while. I keep going back to Perl though :) |
| 02:18.33 | Puppowa | can i just put it in fstab instead? |
| 02:18.34 | SimonRaven | i'll have to use my old nick, as i've reached my channe;l limit on this network ;) |
| 02:18.34 | asg | Puppowa: add a devpts entry /etc/fstab |
| 02:18.37 | sgeigerbot | asg: I don't see how... |
| 02:18.38 | Puppowa | oh ok |
| 02:18.44 | SimonRaven | !love FieldySnuts |
| 02:18.48 | FieldySnuts | !! |
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| 02:19.01 | FieldySnuts | @date dpkg |
| 02:19.06 | asg | sgeigerbot: the fringes (mssql, ldap, and a few others) are not ripe in python yet while they are in perl. |
| 02:19.18 | SimonRaven | eew, mssql |
| 02:19.19 | FieldySnuts | hehe i get nervous using that, as should anyone else, it could pick any op or oper |
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| 02:19.34 | asg | SimonRaven: yeah |
| 02:19.43 | sgeigerbot | asg: Yeah, there is that. But in the long run, Python seems like a much better choice.. |
| 02:19.55 | sgeigerbot | asg: It's just easy... |
| 02:20.03 | asg | sgeigerbot: in most cases, I agree. I still have a soft spot for perl though. |
| 02:20.20 | asg | SimonRaven: I remember what they did to the dino pen a few years back |
| 02:20.28 | abrotman | SimonRaven: we were hosting a SQLserver not under our control .. fucking thing destroy our internet connection |
| 02:20.33 | stew | i've been doing perl for all client work and python for all personal hacking, i can count on the perl stuff being more reusable as new clients will more likely be able to support perl than python for the time being |
| 02:20.48 | stew | given the choice i'd take python though |
| 02:20.56 | SimonRaven | only dns i had back then for a while was the named running on my box.... |
| 02:21.05 | SimonRaven | freaky |
| 02:21.06 | asg | stew: yeah, you want to love it, it just doesn't go the last mile in a lot of cases. |
| 02:21.13 | stew | and if you are worried about the lack of libraries in python, all you have to do is look at ruby to make yourself feel better :) |
| 02:21.28 | abrotman | heh |
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| 02:21.30 | asg | stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby |
| 02:21.31 | abrotman | that's not nice |
| 02:21.33 | SimonRaven | ruby's ldap sucks hairy donkey balls |
| 02:21.44 | stew | ruby seems like a neat language but the libraries are quite bleak currently |
| 02:21.47 | abrotman | asg: you're a nice boss .. mine woudl never beat me off |
| 02:21.52 | stew | hah |
| 02:21.58 | gravity | Ruby is wonderful |
| 02:21.59 | FieldySnuts | that needs to be qotd'd as does the response |
| 02:22.03 | gravity | But yeah, the libs aren't all there yet |
| 02:22.05 | FieldySnuts | (in one) |
| 02:22.06 | sgeigerbot | SimonRaven: That might be good if you are a hairy donkey. |
| 02:22.06 | gravity | rails aside |
| 02:22.13 | asg | abrotman: hah |
| 02:22.15 | SimonRaven | yeh, but what a pian having to work with the ldap in it... *sigh* |
| 02:22.25 | SimonRaven | sgeigerbot: ba-dum-tssh |
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| 02:22.35 | sgeigerbot | yeah...I know... |
| 02:22.44 | asg | abrotman: yes, you need to qotd that one. |
| 02:22.55 | abrotman | asg: you know how to work the bot :) |
| 02:23.00 | asg | so do you |
| 02:23.14 | SimonRaven | work it, babay! |
| 02:23.21 | abrotman | oh fuck |
| 02:23.24 | abrotman | !qotd135 |
| 02:23.24 | dpkg | < FieldySnuts> someone who realizes this may get them severely larted do this: -!- sgeigerbot [n=user@h216-170-007-123.adsl.navix.net] has joined #debian |
| 02:23.28 | abrotman | !qotd136 |
| 02:23.28 | dpkg | hmm... qotd136 is <klien_bottle> anyone have any idea why my fonts look so jaggedy in kde 3.3? <klien_bottle> i think it has to do with antialiasing |
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| 02:23.32 | abrotman | fucking shit |
| 02:23.36 | abrotman | !qotd137 |
| 02:23.36 | dpkg | well, qotd137 is <www> when i apt-get upgrade, my system wants to update a lot of packages <www> how to avoid that ? |
| 02:23.37 | sgeigerbot | children... |
| 02:23.39 | abrotman | grr |
| 02:23.39 | SimonRaven | oops |
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| 02:23.42 | abrotman | !qotd138 |
| 02:23.42 | dpkg | somebody said qotd138 was <PerfDave> tkooda: SO READ THE FUCKING MANUAL FOR THE FUCKING THING YOU'RE FUCKING WELL UPGRADING TO, YOU FUCKING MORON! |
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| 02:23.52 | abrotman | oh ffs .. noone fixed qotd0 .. you're all fucking fired |
| 02:23.59 | FieldySnuts | ~stfu dpkg |
| 02:24.02 | abrotman | !qotd139 |
| 02:24.05 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:24.07 | abrotman | i found a free one |
| 02:24.10 | SimonRaven | fucking fuck fucking fuckers fuck fuck fuck |
| 02:24.16 | FieldySnuts | @stfu dpkg |
| 02:24.17 | ravenbird | SHUT THE FUCK UP dpkg! |
| 02:24.25 | gravity | Thank god. I hate this job anyway. |
| 02:24.34 | FieldySnuts | fired? terminated? |
| 02:24.36 | abrotman | !qotd139 is <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
| 02:24.36 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
| 02:24.41 | abrotman | asg: that? |
| 02:25.02 | abrotman | or did i miss something? |
| 02:25.51 | SimonRaven | !qotd44 |
| 02:25.52 | dpkg | [qotd44] <morning> telnet have any recent vulns? |
| 02:25.57 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:25.59 | sgeigerbot | dpkg: STFU is not Chinese food, so shut the fuck up. |
| 02:26.00 | dpkg | SHUT THE FUCK UP is not Chinese food, so shut the fuck up.! |
| 02:26.08 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 02:26.08 | abrotman | gah fuck |
| 02:26.17 | abrotman | we broke dpkg |
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| 02:26.22 | abrotman | qotd0 =~ s/|134)/|134|135|136|137|138|139)/ |
| 02:26.26 | FieldySnuts | @hire sgeigerbot |
| 02:26.29 | SimonRaven | gahfuckltefish |
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| 02:26.49 | abrotman | shit .. i need bot help! |
| 02:26.56 | FieldySnuts | your bot-fu is weak |
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| 02:27.01 | SimonRaven | dpkg: qotd0 =~ s/|134)/|134|135|136|137|138|139)/ |
| 02:27.01 | dpkg | SimonRaven: that's too long |
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| 02:27.04 | abrotman | see |
| 02:27.10 | abrotman | i need bot help! |
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| 02:27.19 | abrotman | how to fix! |
| 02:27.20 | SimonRaven | add one at a time |
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| 02:27.37 | abrotman | SimonRaven: no . .the factoid is too long |
| 02:27.40 | FieldySnuts | @penixsmite test |
| 02:27.45 | sgeigerbot | FieldySnuts: Thanks, but I already have a glamorous job as an IT Director, earning $7.05/hr. |
| 02:27.45 | FieldySnuts | ~penixsmite test |
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| 02:28.01 | DKM | anyone know where iptables is located in debian? |
| 02:28.01 | FieldySnuts | ~mhallsmite test |
| 02:28.01 | apt | Fuck test. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 02:28.03 | FieldySnuts | finally |
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| 02:28.13 | SimonRaven | oh. then start another, like qotd00, and say so in qotd0 |
| 02:28.19 | abrotman | DKM: /usr/share/doc/iptables |
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| 02:28.26 | DKM | much appreciated |
| 02:28.31 | gravity | DKM: In the iptables package |
| 02:28.38 | FieldySnuts | you could have a series of like qotd-a qotd-b each having the numbers you want then call those then call.... |
| 02:28.52 | abrotman | SimonRaven: can't i .. like (|1|2|3|4|5|6) etc .. ? |
| 02:29.03 | abrotman | SimonRaven: i mean .. it wouldn't always work .. but ... |
| 02:29.10 | FieldySnuts | you could have a series of like qotd-a qotd-b each having the numbers you want then call those then call.... |
| 02:29.13 | FieldySnuts | ahem |
| 02:29.25 | SimonRaven | @tell FieldySnuts -about repeat |
| 02:29.29 | SimonRaven | ;p |
| 02:29.29 | FieldySnuts | no |
| 02:29.35 | asg | abrotman: that was sufficient |
| 02:29.36 | FieldySnuts | fuCough |
| 02:30.00 | Puppowa | hrmn, so i added the devpts line to /etc/fstab, took it out of mtab, and rebooted... and now it seems broken again |
| 02:30.07 | DKM | shit, i can't vi iptables? |
| 02:30.12 | SimonRaven | abrotman: well, gotta have something... we can improve on it later |
| 02:30.20 | DKM | how do i open the ssh port? |
| 02:30.28 | FieldySnuts | there's a qotd |
| 02:30.33 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:30.33 | dpkg | <greycat> I will not run it on Solaris. I will not run it in Madrid or Paris. I will not run the Enterprise. I do not like it in my eyes. |
| 02:30.35 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:30.43 | DKM | !qotd00 |
| 02:30.43 | dpkg | <kingsley> OK, there are just a few things that I'd rather do before I resort to using 2.6: I'd rather get a vasectomy with a weed whacker, an enema with a garden hose, slam my nose in a car door, have a proctologist named Dr. Hook and watch Roseann Barr do a strip-tease. |
| 02:30.46 | abrotman | !literal qotd00 |
| 02:30.46 | dpkg | qotd00 is <reply> see qotd((|1)(|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)) |
| 02:30.51 | abrotman | seem ok ? |
| 02:30.55 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 02:31.02 | FieldySnuts | @irritate abrotman |
| 02:31.03 | ravenbird | abrotman: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? who uses cable ???/ |
| 02:31.05 | SimonRaven | tha works |
| 02:31.05 | abrotman | no shit |
| 02:31.07 | abrotman | !beer me |
| 02:31.26 | DKM | !qotd02 |
| 02:31.30 | abrotman | no |
| 02:31.31 | SimonRaven | !qotd53 |
| 02:31.31 | dpkg | qotd53 is probably <Cyph_> i'm stoned, but the segfaults are real abrotman |
| 02:31.34 | abrotman | see .. it doesn't always work |
| 02:31.36 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:31.37 | dpkg | elnovato | bah,m finally i undestood Jedit is the best IDE ever ever |
| 02:31.39 | deadcat | !qotd |
| 02:31.40 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
| 02:31.50 | abrotman | !qotd is also try qotd00 |
| 02:31.50 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 02:31.56 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:32.00 | abrotman | see .. no workie |
| 02:32.02 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:32.10 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:32.10 | dpkg | somebody said qotd74 was < DrBlink> wow i didnt kno linux had an interface |
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| 02:32.26 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:32.30 | SimonRaven | need to reduce the number looked up |
| 02:32.49 | SimonRaven | oh, hmm. yeh, well 'cause there aren't enough to fill up to 199 |
| 02:32.59 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: %s%s%s\t\n? |
| 02:33.00 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: I wish you would RTFM. |
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| 02:33.28 | abrotman | SimonRaven: not yet .. but it's getting there |
| 02:33.31 | samuel | hello all |
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| 02:33.32 | abrotman | !qotd139 |
| 02:33.32 | dpkg | i guess qotd139 is <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
| 02:33.37 | abrotman | is that what asg wanted ? |
| 02:33.58 | abrotman | wow .. for a sick twist |
| 02:34.05 | abrotman | qotd00 could call qotd00 |
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| 02:34.12 | Trace | hello, Does gpart have GUI? |
| 02:34.30 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:34.38 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:34.47 | FieldySnuts | ~tell abrotman -about repeat |
| 02:34.54 | Nigel | lol |
| 02:34.56 | FieldySnuts | :D |
| 02:35.04 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: thanks :) |
| 02:35.06 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:35.15 | SimonRaven | !qotd62 |
| 02:35.15 | dpkg | <fenix> My discover is problem people!!! Not find ide or scsi automatic <fenix> Help!! Discover Problem!!! PEOPLE!! <asg> fenix: yes discovering people can be a bit disconcerting |
| 02:35.25 | FieldySnuts | heeh |
| 02:35.36 | samuel | ive put some new modules in /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/net/atheros (madwifi) and did update-modules but still i cant get the modules to load... where is the right place to put kernel modules? they load fine if i give the full path, and the card works, but not by giving just the name |
| 02:35.47 | abrotman | depmod -a ? |
| 02:35.56 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 02:35.56 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd41 is <Mandork_> how does pron work anyways ? |
| 02:36.06 | FieldySnuts | bad. |
| 02:36.12 | abrotman | i didn't make it |
| 02:36.14 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:36.17 | abrotman | well . i don't htink i did |
| 02:36.20 | FieldySnuts | !blame abrotman |
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| 02:36.25 | FieldySnuts | fucking god fucking shit damn it |
| 02:36.28 | FieldySnuts | @blame abrotman |
| 02:36.32 | abrotman | !factinfo qotd41 |
| 02:36.33 | dpkg | qotd41 -- created by Guerin <~magpie@220.123.169.73> at Thu Jul 22 06:10:22 2004 (383 days); it has been requested 58 times, last by abrotman, 37s ago. |
| 02:36.34 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: mhb |
| 02:36.35 | ravenbird | bugger all, i dunno, FieldySnuts |
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| 02:36.39 | FieldySnuts | apt: mhb |
| 02:36.42 | FieldySnuts | adsfgasdf |
| 02:36.51 | abrotman | @date Phated |
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| 02:36.54 | FieldySnuts | haha |
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| 02:37.00 | kritical | anyone care to help a noob with restarting my exim mail server?... /msg me :D |
| 02:37.06 | FieldySnuts | @hire Phated |
| 02:37.07 | SimonRaven | we *MUST* be bored, we've been playing with the bots for an hour |
| 02:37.20 | SimonRaven | !msg me |
| 02:37.20 | dpkg | Nobody is going to /msg you. Especially, don't /msg simonraven. |
| 02:37.23 | abrotman | !mhb |
| 02:37.23 | kerneld | Branden about? Someone ripped off his STFU pic: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/21452252/ |
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| 02:37.26 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: happy? |
| 02:37.32 | abrotman | !tell FieldySnuts about literal mhb |
| 02:37.33 | FieldySnuts | yes, especially if you literal it |
| 02:37.35 | FieldySnuts | thanks |
| 02:37.37 | abrotman | bah |
| 02:37.39 | kritical | dpkg: why do you say that? |
| 02:37.40 | abrotman | !tell FieldySnuts about literal magic hate ball |
| 02:37.43 | DKM | can someone please tell me how to open prot 22 in debian? |
| 02:37.47 | kerneld | (Not sure it was his to begin with) |
| 02:37.49 | DKM | *port |
| 02:38.04 | abrotman | DKM: install ssh |
| 02:38.06 | FieldySnuts | hi :) |
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| 02:38.22 | tengulre | a.txt --> http://www.testdemo.com/a.iso , I want to use command 'cat a.txt | wget ' to get a.iso, but failed! why? |
| 02:38.27 | DKM | crap, ssh isn't installed by default? |
| 02:38.30 | gravity | kerneld: I think Branden got it from somewhere else too |
| 02:38.34 | FieldySnuts | ~mhb |
| 02:38.34 | apt | somebody said mhb was magic hate ball is <action> shakes the Magic Hate Ball. All the world's problems are caused by... Javascript! |
| 02:38.35 | FieldySnuts | rad |
| 02:38.41 | sgeigerbot | DKM: sudo apt-get install ssh <- it's that easy. |
| 02:38.41 | FieldySnuts | oh god fuck shit cuntshitter |
| 02:38.50 | stew | tengulre: cat a.text | xargs wget |
| 02:38.52 | FieldySnuts | @mhb |
| 02:38.53 | ravenbird | it has been said that mhb is magic hate ball is <action> shakes the Magic Hate Ball. All the world's problems are caused by... Democrats! |
| 02:38.55 | FieldySnuts | ;/ |
| 02:39.00 | FieldySnuts | i suck |
| 02:39.11 | SimonRaven | !qotd78 |
| 02:39.12 | dpkg | from memory, qotd78 is <BiZARRE> why cant I type my password when I try to login? <Phated> BiZARRE: Your password isn't echoed to the console. <BiZARRE> what? <BiZARRE> well, how do I type in the password? <Seb> BiZARRE: you hit the keys one by one <BiZARRE> nothing happens when I hit the keys <paulswm> UNtil you hit 'enter' <BiZARRE> the only key working is enter <BiZARRE> ok |
| 02:39.12 | sgeigerbot | DKM: would you prefer that "default == insecure" ? If you want to open up ports, you should do it... |
| 02:39.19 | FieldySnuts | ohy my god |
| 02:39.21 | FieldySnuts | hahahaha |
| 02:39.36 | SimonRaven | there's some real doozies in there |
| 02:39.47 | DKM | ai just want to make ssh work |
| 02:39.56 | sgeigerbot | On IRC you can be dumb, but you cannot hide. |
| 02:40.02 | stew | !flw0 |
| 02:40.03 | abrotman | !qotd114 |
| 02:40.03 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd114 is <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 02:40.04 | FieldySnuts | you hid for a few weeks. |
| 02:40.15 | SimonRaven | !qotd80 |
| 02:40.16 | dpkg | methinks qotd80 is <toresbe> Holy shit! <toresbe> My Ultra 1 is streaming kernel panics! <toresbe> oh crap - It's the BSOD screensaver <toresbe> I fall for that motherfucker every time |
| 02:40.24 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 02:40.26 | abrotman | stew: just !flw iirc |
| 02:40.27 | abrotman | !flw |
| 02:40.27 | dpkg | <SquireCD> deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib <tarzeau> SquireCD: YOUR SOURCES.LIST IS WRONG! <SquireCD> tarzeau: WTF is wrong with it? <greycat> for one thing, it says "unstable". <SquireCD> yes it does, and it's always worked <SquireCD> for 3 years it's been fine <SquireCD> i have contrib in my sources, what does that do? |
| 02:40.32 | abrotman | stew: see :) |
| 02:40.33 | sgeigerbot | Okay, the masterbotting has to stop. |
| 02:40.35 | samuel | ive put some new modules in /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/net/atheros (madwifi) and did update-modules but still i cant get the modules to load... where is the right place to put kernel modules? they load fine if i give the full path, and the card works, but not by giving just the name |
| 02:40.36 | DKM | sgeigerbot: says sudo command doesn't exist |
| 02:40.38 | FieldySnuts | ~tasso sgeigerbot |
| 02:40.39 | apt | sgeigerbot: tasso tasso tasso tasso fungo fungo serpente oooh serpenteeee! |
| 02:40.59 | SimonRaven | yeh, ok, let's stop. it's even getting to me |
| 02:41.03 | sgeigerbot | DKM: If you don't know what sudo does, you should install it on a box and get familiar with. If you can, just "apt-get install sudo" right now. However, instead of using sudo, you can simply become root (with "su") and then run the command without sudo. |
| 02:41.04 | abrotman | samuel: did you try depmod -a ? |
| 02:41.05 | FieldySnuts | roger |
| 02:41.23 | FieldySnuts | heh. |
| 02:41.33 | samuel | abrotman, sorry no didnt see that |
| 02:41.33 | DKM | awesome |
| 02:41.35 | samuel | lemme see |
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| 02:42.54 | SimonRaven | asg: thanks BTW |
| 02:42.55 | sgeigerbot | DKM: Then (as root), type "visudo" and add this line: sgeiger ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL (replacing "sgeiger" with your username) |
| 02:43.00 | FieldySnuts | Phated: asking for trouble there missy |
| 02:43.01 | samuel | abrotman, still does not find it, i thought depmod was run by update-modules? |
| 02:43.20 | Phated | FieldySnuts: I'm in class, what can you do to me? |
| 02:43.21 | sgeigerbot | DKM: or, alternatively "sgeiger ALL=(ALL) ALL" |
| 02:43.24 | kritical | anyone here use exim? I've got a simple problem.. care to pm me?.. it's such a simple problem you'll probably laugh at me :D |
| 02:43.30 | FieldySnuts | Phated: teach you something |
| 02:43.31 | abrotman | samuel: what happens when you modprobe it ? |
| 02:43.38 | samuel | abrotman, not found |
| 02:43.46 | sgeigerbot | DKM: See these examples: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/sudoers |
| 02:43.48 | stew | kritical: /etc/init.d/exim4 restart |
| 02:43.56 | samuel | abrotman, but if i insmod it with full path then its fine |
| 02:44.02 | abrotman | !insmod |
| 02:44.02 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 02:44.20 | kritical | stew: I got it restarted... my problem is with an aliase I added to /etc/aliases not working |
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| 02:44.37 | stew | kritical: run newaliases |
| 02:44.44 | kritical | ;O |
| 02:44.47 | DKM | sgeigerbot: i type in su |
| 02:44.56 | samuel | abrotman, yes, but i have to load all deps one by one if i insmod it |
| 02:44.56 | kritical | queue laughter at me... now! |
| 02:45.04 | samuel | abrotman, all with the full path |
| 02:45.08 | DKM | sgeigerbot: then i type in apt-get install ssh |
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| 02:45.27 | sgeigerbot | DKM: Somebody once told me that RETURN is not punctuation. |
| 02:45.38 | abrotman | samuel: afaik .. depmod -a should fix that |
| 02:45.52 | Phated | FieldySnuts: Oooh NAUUGHTY |
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| 02:46.24 | samuel | abrotman, thanks for the help anyways... ill try putting the whole path in the /etc/modules file.... see what happens :) |
| 02:46.27 | big____ | ~ops ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A GAY NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA IS LOOKING FOR YOU!! VISIT HTTP://GNAA.US/ TO FIND OUT HOW TO JOIN TODAY!! HTTP://JEWS.DIDWTC.COM/ HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG |
| 02:46.27 | apt | ...but ops is already something else... |
| 02:46.32 | big____ | !ops ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A GAY NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA IS LOOKING FOR YOU!! VISIT HTTP://GNAA.US/ TO FIND OUT HOW TO JOIN TODAY!! HTTP://JEWS.DIDWTC.COM/ HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG |
| 02:46.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A GAY NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA IS LOOKING FOR YOU!! VISIT HTTP://GNAA.US/ TO FIND OUT HOW TO JOIN TODAY!! HTTP://JEWS.DIDWTC.COM/ HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG |
| 02:46.34 | sgeigerbot | DKM: ...and? |
| 02:46.36 | big____ | @ops ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A GAY NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA IS LOOKING FOR YOU!! VISIT HTTP://GNAA.US/ TO FIND OUT HOW TO JOIN TODAY!! HTTP://JEWS.DIDWTC.COM/ HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG |
| 02:46.36 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: ARE YOU GAY? ARE YOU A NIGGER? ARE YOU A GAY NIGGER? THEN THE GNAA IS LOOKING FOR YOU!! VISIT HTTP://GNAA.US/ TO FIND OUT HOW TO JOIN TODAY!! HTTP://JEWS.DIDWTC.COM/ HTTP://DEBIAN.ON.NIMP.ORG |
| 02:46.37 | SimonRaven | see qotd110 and 111 |
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| 02:46.44 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 02:46.45 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:46.46 | SimonRaven | oh wonderful, some gnaa troll |
| 02:46.50 | jkaufman | how pleasant |
| 02:46.52 | SimonRaven | thank you |
| 02:46.55 | gravity | helix: Thanks |
| 02:46.59 | DKM | sgeigerbot: then it it failed to get get some files, i think it tried to get them from the cdrom which i disconnected |
| 02:47.14 | DKM | sgeigerbot: should i reconnect the cdrom with the debian cd inside and run the command again? |
| 02:47.19 | SimonRaven | must be stupid, just asking for it like that |
| 02:47.25 | kritical | thanks stew! |
| 02:47.36 | stew | kritical: you're welcome |
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| 02:48.16 | sgeigerbot | DKM: First off, you need to rewrite /etc/apt/sources.list Do you have "apt-setup" If not, you will need to somehow run this command: sudo apt-get install base-config |
| 02:48.46 | sgeigerbot | DKM: apt-setup will walk you through setting up /etc/apt/sources.list to download packages from the Internet instead of trying to get them from the CDROM. |
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| 02:49.14 | DKM | sgeigerbot: excellent, 1 sec |
| 02:49.31 | sgeigerbot | DKM: Once you have /etc/apt/sources.list set up, you will want to comment out or remove all references to your CDROM apt archive. |
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| 02:50.13 | samuel | abrotman, if you have to run depmod then what is update-modules for? |
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| 02:50.31 | sgeigerbot | DKM: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt The Debian Reference Guide used to be known as The Debian Quick Ref |
| 02:50.31 | sgeigerbot | erence [but now it's too big to be "quick"] and is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html ~+debian reference |
| 02:50.34 | FieldySnuts | asshat |
| 02:50.38 | sgeigerbot | DKM: extra, extra, read all about it, unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't |
| 02:50.38 | sgeigerbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.44 | abrotman | samuel: room service ? |
| 02:50.47 | sgeigerbot | DKM: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 02:50.52 | sgeigerbot | DKM: http://wiki.debian.net/ |
| 02:51.09 | samuel | abrotman, if its obsolete why include it? |
| 02:51.10 | abrotman | samuel: you might want to ask #kernel why you have to use the full path .. and that might give you a clue which file to fix |
| 02:51.11 | samuel | oh well... |
| 02:51.13 | FieldySnuts | oh that's lame people.didwtc.com does exist. it changes the word "jews" to "people" in the resulting article |
| 02:51.15 | CrocoJet | anyone use kernel 2.6.12.4 ? |
| 02:51.16 | FieldySnuts | what morons |
| 02:51.22 | samuel | abrotman, ill do that, thanks |
| 02:51.24 | sgeigerbot | DKM: that should get you started. |
| 02:51.29 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: ok .. that's kind of .. funny .. in a bad way .. |
| 02:51.38 | FieldySnuts | sort of.. maybe |
| 02:51.40 | DKM | sgeigerbot: thanks a bunch |
| 02:51.42 | FieldySnuts | that someone took the time heh |
| 02:51.44 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: try http://badgers.didwtc.com/ :) |
| 02:51.50 | FieldySnuts | no. |
| 02:52.10 | FieldySnuts | don't go to the nimp.org url that's for sure |
| 02:52.15 | jkern | CrocoJet yep |
| 02:52.22 | FieldySnuts | stupidly, i think i visited that before |
| 02:52.26 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: it's actually funny |
| 02:52.30 | abrotman | Badgers have claimed responsibility for the attacks. |
| 02:52.30 | abrotman | A world wide search for Badgers has begun. |
| 02:52.33 | FieldySnuts | hahaha |
| 02:52.35 | FieldySnuts | sorry... |
| 02:52.37 | sgeigerbot | DKM: no problem. If you have problems setting up /etc/apt/sources.list and instlaling ssh, keep asking about it in here.. This channel is the greatest; they will help you through this. |
| 02:52.59 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: it was funny :) |
| 02:53.01 | CrocoJet | how can i find "Unable to find the QT installation" ? |
| 02:53.14 | CrocoJet | was trying to compile kernel |
| 02:53.21 | abrotman | CrocoJet: libqt-dev |
| 02:53.25 | DKM | sgeigerbot: can u just refer me to a url where i can download the required packages, and thus change "deb file://cdrom/ sarge main" in /etc/apt/sources.list to some kind of url? |
| 02:53.27 | liable | samuel: try putting them in one dir, up. ie not in kernel dir.. |
| 02:53.33 | CrocoJet | ok |
| 02:53.35 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:53.35 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:53.38 | CrocoJet | let me try via apt-get |
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| 02:54.03 | sgeigerbot | DKM: type "/join #flood" |
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| 02:54.10 | SimonRaven | you don't need qt dev shit to build a kernel. get libncurses5-dev |
| 02:54.17 | inde | hi, i added http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ in my sources.list but when i do apt-get install kde-core i get this error.. kde-core depends by arts but it is not going to be installed. why? |
| 02:54.23 | abrotman | SimonRaven: make qconfig |
| 02:54.29 | SimonRaven | i don't get this gui crap to configure a kernel |
| 02:54.35 | abrotman | SimonRaven: neither do i |
| 02:54.37 | SimonRaven | they both suck |
| 02:54.40 | abrotman | duh |
| 02:54.43 | abrotman | use menuconfig! |
| 02:54.47 | inde | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/arts/ |
| 02:54.52 | inde | there is arts here |
| 02:54.52 | abrotman | inde: #debian-kde |
| 02:54.59 | SimonRaven | i *have* tried them, to see. and yes, they suck hard on car tailpipes |
| 02:55.10 | abrotman | !s3 |
| 02:55.10 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
| 02:55.15 | abrotman | SimonRaven: that much ? |
| 02:55.19 | CrocoJet | abrotman, is it "libqt3-dev - Qt development files" ? |
| 02:55.21 | SimonRaven | *nods* |
| 02:55.23 | FieldySnuts | wtf |
| 02:55.27 | abrotman | CrocoJet: have you tried menuconfig ? |
| 02:55.33 | kritical | stew: in the 'man newaliases' it says that it's not needed for exim... also I tested it and the aliase still doesn't work... feel like troubleshooting for a noob?.. otherwise I can hit the doc for awhile |
| 02:55.53 | CrocoJet | abrotman, first time ... compiling kernel here |
| 02:56.32 | CrocoJet | abrotman, >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. |
| 02:56.45 | abrotman | CrocoJet: apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 02:56.52 | abrotman | CrocoJet: why are you building a kernel ? |
| 02:56.53 | CrocoJet | thanks |
| 02:56.54 | stew | kritical: i'm sorry i don't use exim. try man 5 aliases as well, search for aliases in /usr/share/doc/exim4*/* ; ask in #exim |
| 02:57.20 | jkaufman | !beer |
| 02:57.20 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, beer is liquid gold mate |
| 02:57.24 | CrocoJet | well .. i am curious ! |
| 02:57.27 | CrocoJet | lol |
| 02:57.30 | abrotman | !tell CrocoJet about kp |
| 02:58.28 | kritical | thanks again stew :D |
| 02:58.38 | CrocoJet | well ihave menu !! |
| 02:58.46 | abrotman | !kp |
| 02:58.46 | dpkg | well, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 02:58.48 | CrocoJet | and now ? God ! lot things to setup |
| 02:58.49 | SimonRaven | well good for you |
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| 03:00.44 | sgeigerbot | !+Fat Tire |
| 03:00.44 | dpkg | i heard fat tire is amber ale from New Belgium Brwing Company, For Collins, CO USA |
| 03:01.00 | abrotman | fort collins .. stupid fucking bot |
| 03:01.10 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: I was drinking beer... |
| 03:01.15 | SimonRaven | afk |
| 03:01.17 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: aren't you always .... |
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| 03:01.50 | stew | they make a lot more than amber ale... |
| 03:02.06 | stew | !fat tire is also http://www.newbelgium.com/ |
| 03:02.06 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 03:02.29 | sgeigerbot | :-) |
| 03:02.37 | samuel | liable, nope, not there either, worth a try though |
| 03:02.39 | sgeigerbot | !+guinness |
| 03:02.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, guinness is the best beer in the world |
| 03:02.41 | samuel | thanks |
| 03:02.53 | SDFH_Linux | oh no not that again |
| 03:03.01 | stew | !guinness is also good for you |
| 03:03.01 | DKM | sgeigerbot: u are my hero. i typed in apt-get install ssh and it downloaded everything and now it works! :) |
| 03:03.01 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 03:03.02 | sgeigerbot | !beer is also see guinness and Fat Tire |
| 03:03.17 | sgeigerbot | DKM: don't forget to install sudo and follow the instructions I gave you. |
| 03:03.36 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: maybe you're too drunk to be botting |
| 03:03.37 | sgeigerbot | !sgeigerbot is also DKM's hero |
| 03:03.37 | dpkg | sgeigerbot: okay |
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| 03:04.16 | DKM | i can leave that to the client, as long as ssh works my job is done :P |
| 03:04.58 | liable | samuel: are they in your modules.dep file in the parent dir? |
| 03:04.59 | sgeigerbot | DKM: You are doing this for someone else? Are you not going to learn Linux yourself? |
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| 03:05.31 | DKM | sgeigerbot: i wish i could, by i have only 3 more hours to provision another 12 servers |
| 03:05.55 | DKM | sgeigerbot: otherwise i'd be more than willing to dabble all night |
| 03:06.00 | sgeigerbot | DKM: windows or linux servers? |
| 03:06.19 | DKM | 8 windows, 4 fc2 |
| 03:06.20 | samuel | liable, they will be in a sec... thanks :) |
| 03:06.31 | DKM | fc2 is much easier for me |
| 03:06.39 | sgeigerbot | DKM: bleh. |
| 03:06.45 | DKM | debian i have never had much experience in |
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| 03:07.04 | sith-R2D2 | is anybody using m0n0wall with their debian? |
| 03:07.05 | sgeigerbot | DKM: Just remember: the support for Debian is better. |
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| 03:08.08 | DKM | very much so my friend |
| 03:08.21 | DKM | i'm sure i'll be back here with more queries |
| 03:08.31 | sith-R2D2 | dkm - you use m0n0wall with your debian? |
| 03:08.31 | DKM | thanks again for all your help |
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| 03:08.50 | DKM | no i am not sorry |
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| 03:10.03 | sgeigerbot | test |
| 03:10.08 | samuel | liable, this has to be a cruel joke or something... it still doesnt find them |
| 03:10.44 | samuel | i mean its no big deal, i can always just set something up to insmod them on every boot, just wtf? |
| 03:10.44 | jd|laptop | samuel, how did you install your kernel? |
| 03:10.54 | jd|laptop | and how did you install these modules? |
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| 03:11.44 | SDFH_Linux | anyone know where i can get the xmms-perl file i have tried at apt-get.org with no success |
| 03:12.04 | metaperl | I would like to figure out how to fix this problem I get from time to time: /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy |
| 03:12.17 | sgeigerbot | SDFH_Linux: apt-get install libxmms-perl - Interactive remote control for XMMS (X MultiMedia System) in perl |
| 03:12.20 | mhall | Hello, all. I am having an issue with xorg getting stuck in a SIGALRM / sigreturn loop and locking the console of this box. |
| 03:12.21 | samuel | jd|laptop, its just a stock debian kernel... and got the kernel headers and the madwifi source then compiled and installed... pretty straight forward, worked fine till i upgraded from kernel-image to linux-image this morning... could that be it? |
| 03:12.22 | sgeigerbot | SDFH_Linux: I'm using sid... |
| 03:12.41 | sgeigerbot | mhall: hiya. |
| 03:12.56 | samuel | jd|laptop, i did get the source again and recompiled after that |
| 03:12.56 | BhaalWK | Is there a safe way to convert a regular drive to a software raid0? |
| 03:12.57 | SDFH_Linux | k |
| 03:13.05 | BhaalWK | Without losing any data |
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| 03:13.38 | sgeigerbot | BhaalWK: Sure, backup your data. |
| 03:13.41 | samuel | jd|laptop, the modules work, if i insmod them in the right order the device works fine, just i cant modprobe them for some odd reason |
| 03:13.47 | beardy | !find xmms-perl sarge |
| 03:13.52 | dpkg | libxmms-perl: (Interactive remote control for XMMS (X MultiMedia System) in perl), section perl, is optional. Version: 0.12-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 76 kB, Installed size: 312 kB |
| 03:13.58 | beardy | SDFH_Linux: /msg dpkg search |
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| 03:14.17 | SDFH_Linux | thanks sgeigerbot found it |
| 03:14.21 | SDFH_Linux | and beardy :P |
| 03:14.32 | sgeigerbot | SDFH_Linux: all I did was type "apt-cache search xmms-perl" |
| 03:14.33 | samuel | i tried asking in #kernel as abrotman kindly suggested but they are all asleep |
| 03:14.37 | samuel | i guess |
| 03:14.39 | SDFH_Linux | k |
| 03:14.46 | abrotman | really? |
| 03:14.46 | BhaalWK | sgeigerbot: Well what Im doing is migrating 2 drives from a crappy PCI Highpoint ATA raid card to software raid... But I dont wanna lose any data... |
| 03:14.53 | abrotman | samuel: is'nt there like 200 people there? |
| 03:14.59 | samuel | 53 |
| 03:15.18 | BhaalWK | samuel: 42 |
| 03:15.19 | BhaalWK | :) |
| 03:15.22 | liable | samuel: do you have the headers for that kernel installed? |
| 03:15.23 | sgeigerbot | !tell BhaalWK about unix lessons |
| 03:15.24 | abrotman | oh |
| 03:15.46 | samuel | liable, yep... its all there |
| 03:16.12 | BhaalWK | sgeigerbot: I dont need lessons in backing up data... Ive just never done this before in my 9yrs of using Linux... |
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| 03:16.34 | BhaalWK | sgeigerbot: I was just wondering if anyone knew if it could be done... Thats all... |
| 03:16.34 | samuel | liable, the modules work... they compiled fine... its just modprobe that doesnt... i dont get it... usually the problems are with the modules... |
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| 03:16.55 | samuel | liable, if i insmod them in the right order the device is just dandy |
| 03:17.04 | sgeigerbot | BhaalWK: fair enough. I guess you know enough not to hang yourself with that rope. |
| 03:17.36 | stew | BhaalWK: you wrote the data in windows? or is the raid array accessible as is in linux? |
| 03:17.40 | TwistedEmotions | How do you run a .sh file? |
| 03:17.40 | BhaalWK | sgeigerbot: Indeed... Before going ahead I am duplicating the drives to another machine... Im just hating this stupid raid card... |
| 03:17.43 | liable | samuel: have you rebooted? I know its generally not needed, but I have had that prob with the madwifi modules before, and they worked after a reboot. |
| 03:18.03 | sgeigerbot | BhaalWK: well, since raid0 is mirroring, that seems reasonable. |
| 03:18.08 | samuel | liable, thanks... ill give it a try... ill brb |
| 03:18.11 | beardy | TwistedEmotions: Make it runnable, or 'sh file.sh' |
| 03:18.47 | sgeigerbot | BhaalWK: my guess is that you would be alright. |
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| 03:18.51 | BhaalWK | stew: I have moved the raid array off the stupid PCI card, am able to remount everything as hda (from sda) I just wanna convert the drives to using software raid without losing the data... |
| 03:19.24 | sgeigerbot | BhaalWK: ...since you can apt-get install mdadm ...and get things setup from there... |
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| 03:19.40 | BhaalWK | Im just wondering if I will lose the data when I initialise the array? |
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| 03:20.01 | stew | BhaalWK: what I have done in the past is to create a raid 0 array that is degraded (the missing drive being the one with the data). then copy the data from the other drive to the degraded array, then add the other drive and let it mirror |
| 03:20.04 | sgeigerbot | BhaalWK: what do you have against trying (after doing a backup)? |
| 03:20.26 | BhaalWK | sgeigerbot: time :) |
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| 03:20.43 | BhaalWK | stew: That makes sense... |
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| 03:21.22 | samuel | liable, worth a try at least |
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| 03:21.46 | liable | samuel: did you compile them again, or just copy over from the old kernel? |
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| 03:21.53 | BhaalWK | Okey... Soon as the new machine is finished with its seagate drive check I will ghost to it... |
| 03:22.06 | stew | BhaalWK: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html <- just ignore the fact that this is sata and you don't want it but watch what he does with the raid |
| 03:22.08 | liable | samuel: after running make -n install, all it seams to do is run depmod -ae |
| 03:22.09 | samuel | liable, compile again - new madwifi source and everything |
| 03:22.33 | liable | samuel: latest snapshot? |
| 03:22.39 | samuel | liable, cvs |
| 03:22.54 | liable | samuel: maybe try the older one.. |
| 03:23.13 | BhaalWK | stew: Ahhh thanks |
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| 03:23.45 | Flyboy | Need some help with a dual-boot setup. I'm using GRUB as my bootloader. I have two drives: an IDE, with my Linux partition, and an SATA, with my Windows partition. I can't seem to find the right incantation to make the Windows partition boot (Linux is fine, I'm using it now). I'm guessing it's related to the fact that SATA is treated as SCSI, but I don't know what to list as the root for that drive. |
| 03:23.52 | samuel | ill get on it... but im thinking it might just be easier to do it from a script at boot or something |
| 03:24.04 | samuel | liable, but ill try the snapshot |
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| 03:24.07 | samuel | thx |
| 03:24.21 | Angel-SL | :@ |
| 03:24.42 | Angel-SL | anyone knows who is that Chatterobot?? |
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| 03:24.55 | BhaalWK | stew: my problem is that this is an already installed and fully working system |
| 03:25.05 | shimano55 | Question, RPM's work on Debian right? |
| 03:25.06 | sgeigerbot | Flyboy: I would guess you need an initrd with support for the SATA drive. |
| 03:25.23 | lazlo | would you guys like to help a girl in distress?......im trying to download the iso of debian i have an amd aqua michael david 64 processor and in debian.org is it the iso image ia 64 |
| 03:25.28 | gravity | shimano55: Sort of. They're not recommended |
| 03:25.36 | chealer | shimano55: somehow...as gravity said |
| 03:25.37 | shimano55 | hmm..ok then |
| 03:25.41 | shimano55 | thanks |
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| 03:26.07 | lazlo | which iso is recommended |
| 03:26.42 | chealer | hum, an "amd aqua michael david 64 processor" :? |
| 03:27.00 | thd | a seldom used script that I did not write has been giving this error in the past few months the file *.cgi "is of type application/x-perl" "mozilla does not know how to handle". A similar message appears in firefox. What debian upgrade may have changed apache in such a way that I cannot find what is wrong? |
| 03:27.01 | Flyboy | sgeigerbot: Does the default install not include SATA support in the initrd? |
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| 03:27.55 | sgeigerbot | Flyboy: what default? I have no idea how your initrd was created. |
| 03:28.05 | liable | Flyboy: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 03:28.10 | Flyboy | lazlo: I'm also running an AMD64; when I went to install Debian a couple of weeks ago, AMD64 was still in beta. Just use the regular x86 images. |
| 03:28.24 | TheDemon | what's the command in the install disk to use the 2.6 kernel and do a minimum install? |
| 03:28.38 | lazlo | im sorry its amd 64 which is the correct iso image for an amd 64? |
| 03:28.40 | liable | linux26 |
| 03:28.48 | liable | !amd64 |
| 03:28.49 | dpkg | hmm... amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 03:28.53 | chealer | TheDemon: I don't know what you mean by minimum install |
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| 03:29.09 | TheDemon | uhm |
| 03:29.11 | TheDemon | like |
| 03:29.15 | TheDemon | the bare minimum |
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| 03:29.25 | TheDemon | i'm installing on a 200MHz laptop |
| 03:29.29 | TheDemon | with a 1GB hdd |
| 03:29.40 | liable | thats a base install, which you choose at the end.. |
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| 03:29.50 | TheDemon | gotchya |
| 03:29.53 | TheDemon | so type linux26? |
| 03:30.00 | chealer | I'm not sure there's an option for that. AFAIK the installer installs more than the minimum by default |
| 03:30.01 | Flyboy | sgeigerbot: I don't recall taking any special action, so it would be a basic install with a 2.6 kernel |
| 03:30.04 | liable | yeah |
| 03:30.23 | TheDemon | also, i'm kinda new to this, can xorg be used instead of xfree86? |
| 03:30.29 | Flyboy | lazlo: Just grab the x86 ISO. They'll work. I'm using one right now. |
| 03:30.29 | psychonate | I would like to install *nix on my laptop, but it only has a floppy drive and no NIC :( |
| 03:30.41 | psychonate | It's older than Moses |
| 03:31.02 | chealer | psychonate: heh, does it have a screen? |
| 03:31.12 | psychonate | yeah, but it's not very big at all |
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| 03:31.14 | Flyboy | sgeigerbot: I do have access to the drive once Linux is booted, but I don't know if the initrd has support or not. |
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| 03:31.23 | Christophe971 | is there someone from gwada here ? |
| 03:31.34 | psychonate | I have a modem card is all |
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| 03:31.48 | psychonate | I guess if by some odd chance I found a NIC card for it, I could pick it up |
| 03:31.49 | chealer | psychonate: you should be able to install debian from floppies (but not a 2.4 kernel I believe). of course, you have to want it |
| 03:31.56 | Flyboy | sgeigerbot: initrd is /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 03:31.59 | dafen | I tried to see if kernel 2.6.10 is available in testing release, but it still only has 2.6.8 as the newest, y? |
| 03:32.04 | psychonate | chealer, what kernel? |
| 03:32.26 | chealer | psychonate: sorry, I meant not a 2.6, so a 2.4 |
| 03:32.35 | psychonate | ah alright |
| 03:32.40 | psychonate | I wouldn't mind that too much |
| 03:32.54 | Christophe971 | si ou ka soti de gwada là , vin aura #gwadanux |
| 03:32.56 | liable | dafen: 2.6.11 is avaiable in etch iirc |
| 03:33.05 | dafen | sorry? |
| 03:33.07 | dafen | I only use apt-get |
| 03:33.11 | dafen | so... you figure |
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| 03:33.27 | psychonate | chealer, I don't think 2.4 vs. 2.6 would make much of a difference on that thing lol |
| 03:33.29 | liable | wow.. |
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| 03:33.52 | liable | dafen: etch is the name for testing... |
| 03:33.53 | psychonate | chealer, how many floppies do you think we're talking about heh? |
| 03:33.57 | mhall | Alright. I figured this out. It appears to be a flow in the X smart scheduling architecture. |
| 03:33.58 | dafen | my apt-cache only shows 2.6.8 so far the highest |
| 03:33.58 | chealer | psychonate: I tend to agree |
| 03:34.00 | dafen | oh, really!? |
| 03:34.10 | dafen | so testing no longer as a testing version? |
| 03:34.14 | liable | dafen: then you are running sarge/stable |
| 03:34.14 | mhall | That creates infinite loops when certain slow system calls return EINTR. |
| 03:34.23 | dafen | wait... as I understand debian |
| 03:34.34 | dafen | the testing always refer to currently testing version |
| 03:34.38 | liable | !releases |
| 03:34.38 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06). The next release will be Etch. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 03:34.41 | dafen | so if sarge becomes stable |
| 03:34.52 | chealer | psychonate: no idea. if you really mean that the media problem isn't just booting but getting the hole debian from flopy, I suppose that would be painful. check the install guide anyway |
| 03:35.08 | dafen | the the testing will e etch |
| 03:35.24 | gravity | dafen: right |
| 03:35.31 | gravity | dafen: This already has happened |
| 03:35.33 | dafen | ok, so I did update with testing |
| 03:35.37 | dafen | apt-get update |
| 03:35.43 | dafen | then I rean apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 03:35.45 | psychonate | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:35.48 | dafen | the newest shown is 2.6.8 |
| 03:36.08 | Angel-SL | how do i check what version of debian i'm running??? |
| 03:36.09 | dafen | and my source.lst has the testing appended |
| 03:36.14 | liable | !info kernel-image-2.6.11-i386 |
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| 03:36.27 | Angel-SL | how do i check what version of debian i'm running??? |
| 03:36.33 | chealer | !info kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 |
| 03:36.37 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.11-7 (sid), Packaged size: 14167 kB, Installed size: 42816 kB |
| 03:36.45 | Angel-SL | how do i check what version of debian i'm running????????// |
| 03:36.46 | chealer | Angel-SL: $ apt-cache policy |
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| 03:37.09 | chealer | Angel-SL: alternatively, by repeating until you die. then you won't need to know anymore |
| 03:37.17 | gravity | Angel-SL: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:37.49 | chealer | Angel-SL: as gravity says, that command will tell you more simply unless you're running a non-stable version |
| 03:38.07 | gravity | Yeah... not the best answer. There's no great answer |
| 03:38.14 | chealer | yeah :/ |
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| 03:38.28 | chealer | don't we have a factoid for that :S |
| 03:38.36 | Angel-SL | i remember a user on irc using the gcc to check that out |
| 03:38.51 | chealer | Angel-SL: you can use any package that changes fast |
| 03:39.03 | Angel-SL | aw well |
| 03:39.11 | Angel-SL | at least i'm using sarge. |
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| 03:39.29 | chealer | that just requires the person who asks to know about something like packages.d.o, which is unlikely if the person doesn't know which release it's running |
| 03:39.40 | buu | Hrm. I've got two, probably some what related problems. My first problem is that only one program at a time can use my sound card, when I know it's capable of more. My second problem is that whenever a video game trys to play music I get these odd 'stutters' ever couple of minutes where a small portion of the sound seems to repeat |
| 03:39.54 | buu | Anyone happen to have an idea what might fix this sort of thing? |
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| 03:40.47 | chealer | buu: for the first problem, are you using KDE? |
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| 03:40.57 | buu | chealer: Nope. |
| 03:41.14 | buu | I am running the ever useful ratpoison. |
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| 03:41.46 | psychonate | I've heard much of this ratpoison |
| 03:41.47 | dafen | so kernel-source greater than 2.6.8 is not available for testing? |
| 03:41.49 | psychonate | though never tried it |
| 03:41.50 | setient | anyone here use debian/alpha on a dec multia |
| 03:41.57 | buu | psychonate: It's sexy. |
| 03:42.06 | liable | dafen: yes, 2.6.11 is.. |
| 03:42.09 | buu | psychonate: None of this 'desktop' or 'menubar' crap getting in my way. |
| 03:42.17 | dafen | liable, show me your sourc.e.list |
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| 03:42.30 | liable | dafen: I dont run etch |
| 03:42.32 | psychonate | buu, I was big on fluxbox for a while, then XFCE4 |
| 03:42.39 | aaronlin | What is CMOS/BIOS? |
| 03:42.43 | dafen | then how'd yo get 2.6.11? |
| 03:42.45 | psychonate | buu, now I'm messing with... GNOME (save the spam) ;) |
| 03:42.49 | dafen | yor runing unstable? |
| 03:42.55 | liable | !info kernel-image-2.6.11-1-i386 etch |
| 03:43.04 | buu | psychonate: Ratpoison is just so clean and nonintrusive. But I spend all my time in a shell anyways. |
| 03:43.05 | ff7h | CMOS/BIOS is where they keep the smors |
| 03:43.13 | setient | Anyone? |
| 03:43.14 | liable | !info kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 etch |
| 03:43.17 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.11-7 (etch), Packaged size: 14167 kB, Installed size: 42816 kB |
| 03:43.27 | liable | dafen: ^^ |
| 03:43.28 | dafen | Imean the kernel-source |
| 03:43.29 | chealer | !anyone |
| 03:43.29 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 03:43.41 | dafen | kernel-source is still 2.6.8 |
| 03:43.53 | chealer | dafen: there's only a kernel source for 2.6.8 |
| 03:43.55 | chealer | in etch |
| 03:43.57 | metaperl | question 1: is there a good audio recording tool besides Krec? question 2: is there a good IRC channel for discussing Debian sound issues? |
| 03:44.08 | metaperl | i imaine demudi.org would be a good palce to search |
| 03:44.11 | dafen | well, but Ineed 2.6.9 or higher |
| 03:44.12 | chealer | metaperl: 2. none but this one |
| 03:44.14 | beardy | metaperl: audacity? |
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| 03:44.27 | buu | Isn't there a software mixer I can just install? |
| 03:44.35 | mwilson | Pretty much anything at all would be better than krec. Two tin cans and a string, perhaps. |
| 03:44.37 | metaperl | beardy: i have audacity. i will try it out |
| 03:44.41 | chealer | dafen: and a stock kernel won't do? |
| 03:44.45 | metaperl | mwilson: lol |
| 03:44.53 | dak | hrm |
| 03:44.54 | dafen | no |
| 03:44.56 | chealer | buu: I heard about dmix |
| 03:44.58 | dafen | only kernel-source |
| 03:45.01 | Theoden | Anyone remember the command to make chanserv sit in a channel? |
| 03:45.05 | psychonate | buu, why do you use X at all then? Just in case you happen to need an app that requires X? |
| 03:45.06 | dak | god when the hell is kde going to get fixed |
| 03:45.15 | kritical | does anyone know how to uninstall exim4 without uninstalling my-sql? |
| 03:45.17 | dafen | I wanna compile a newer one, since my current runs out of some features to support my T42 LAPTOP |
| 03:45.24 | mwilson | After all, it's KDE, so high functionality isn't on the list of priorities. |
| 03:45.25 | chealer | dafen: then you can't get it from a testing repository |
| 03:45.25 | beardy | Theoden: say "help" to it? |
| 03:45.30 | buu | psychonate: Exactly. |
| 03:45.39 | buu | psychonate: That and this way my terminals are larger than normal. |
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| 03:45.43 | dak | i know wilson but still i just want it so xfce will do kde support |
| 03:45.48 | metaperl | wow, audacity is sa-weet.. thanks beardy |
| 03:46.06 | buu | chealer: Well, apt-get hasn't =] |
| 03:46.17 | deadcat | metaperl: i believe the term is "sa-weed" |
| 03:46.17 | dafen | well, how long am Isupposed to wait? |
| 03:46.28 | dafen | at least for getting 2.6.10 in testing |
| 03:46.38 | Theoden | beardy: Not covered there. |
| 03:46.44 | beardy | metaperl: no problem |
| 03:46.51 | liable | dafen: what doesnt 2.6.8 support? |
| 03:46.56 | chealer | dafen: you'll wait forever for 2.6.10 |
| 03:47.09 | dafen | why? |
| 03:47.13 | dak | i just grabbed headers for 2.6.13 in sid |
| 03:47.16 | dafen | as Iremembered before |
| 03:47.18 | dak | ac tho |
| 03:47.25 | dafen | sarge updates 2.6 kernel monthly |
| 03:47.31 | dafen | from 2.6.0 to 2.6.8 |
| 03:47.34 | dafen | Imean't source |
| 03:47.40 | Angel-SL | !angel-sl |
| 03:47.47 | dak | ah i didnt know sarge did that, thats good to know |
| 03:47.48 | chealer | !tell buu about dmix |
| 03:47.49 | Theoden | Anyone else know the command to make chanserv sit in a channel? |
| 03:48.02 | Pumpkin_ | http://www.local6.com/news/2272794/detail.html |
| 03:48.12 | dafen | so now etch will stick with 2.6.8 until its' stable?! |
| 03:48.16 | dafen | that sounds crazy |
| 03:48.20 | chealer | dafen: huh? |
| 03:48.28 | Angel-SL | Theoden, know that ur in a wrong chan? go to #help i think |
| 03:48.33 | chealer | dafen: no |
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| 03:49.01 | chealer | Theoden: ask /msg chanserv help or #freenode |
| 03:49.10 | dafen | o,k my point is simple: wanan grap a higher kernel-source out of etch ASAP |
| 03:49.21 | buu | Ok, while I'm asking, how do I tell if I'm on alsa or oss? |
| 03:49.24 | liable | kernel.org! |
| 03:49.32 | chealer | liable: argh |
| 03:49.42 | liable | buu: alsa modules start with snd- |
| 03:49.45 | dafen | the kernel source at kernel.org generally can't be run |
| 03:49.50 | buu | liable: Just lsmod and look? |
| 03:49.52 | dafen | it generates kernel panic as Itried once |
| 03:49.55 | liable | chealer: what? |
| 03:49.58 | liable | buu: yeah |
| 03:50.06 | dafen | only debian kernel-source runs well |
| 03:50.13 | buu | liable: so if I've got snd_seq_oss, snd_cs46xx and such, it's alsa? |
| 03:50.18 | ff7h | it's ok to run people over in a hummer Pumpkin |
| 03:50.18 | liable | dafen: bullshit, you fuxored the config.. |
| 03:50.23 | liable | buu: yeap |
| 03:50.24 | dafen | no Ididn't |
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| 03:50.30 | dafen | I've compiled kernel since 2.2 |
| 03:50.33 | dafen | for 30 times |
| 03:50.35 | chealer | liable: there are better ways to get >= 2.6.9 kernel sources on debian than getting vanilla kernels |
| 03:50.36 | buu | liable: I see. Thanks. |
| 03:50.51 | liable | dafen: ok, so everyone else running them must be delusional |
| 03:51.10 | dafen | make-kpkg xconfig? |
| 03:51.15 | dafen | like use debian way? |
| 03:51.18 | dafen | did you try this way? |
| 03:51.20 | liable | chealer: indeed, please explain that to dafen |
| 03:51.41 | liable | dafen: yes! have three on my thinkpad now.. |
| 03:51.54 | dafen | so without any patches? |
| 03:52.01 | liable | yes! |
| 03:52.10 | dafen | and use make-kpkg module_images kernel_impages? |
| 03:52.23 | liable | meh |
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| 03:52.32 | dafen | and you got a runinng kernel without problem?! |
| 03:52.43 | dafen | how come the only time I |
| 03:52.56 | dafen | v tried kernel.org I got a kernel panic during boot? |
| 03:53.08 | chealer | me and a friend just bought2 Z71A-based laptops from NCIX (british columbia). we expect to run them without any non-debian stuff :) about 1500$ each |
| 03:53.29 | dafen | so your source are pulled off directly form kernel.org? |
| 03:53.35 | metaperl | does anyone know how to get a level-check with audacity before hitting record? hitting record and pause doesnt give a level-check |
| 03:53.36 | dafen | and it's compiled with make-kpkg |
| 03:53.37 | chealer | dafen: you were lacking fs/HDD drivers? |
| 03:53.39 | daedalus_ | dafen: because you likely missed something critical in the config... the config changes every so often.... it's easy to miss omsething |
| 03:53.40 | dafen | and running without panic? |
| 03:53.49 | dafen | I think I used the same config |
| 03:53.58 | dafen | I did initrd too |
| 03:54.10 | dafen | but it still panics, and the config works well on debian kernel source |
| 03:54.13 | dafen | the same config file |
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| 03:54.28 | dafen | it's 1 year ago, then after that, I never look back to kernel.org |
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| 03:54.49 | dafen | maybe that time I was unlunck? |
| 03:55.17 | liable | dafen: build all your fs and ide etc stuff into the kernel and dont use initrd.. |
| 03:55.23 | dafen | yep |
| 03:55.30 | dafen | I build them all in, I know it, |
| 03:55.35 | dafen | I am not a newbie |
| 03:55.35 | daedalus_ | dafen: debian kernel source is patched, so the config file might not have been compatible... also, if you didn't have the kernel versions exactly right, the config file is probably incompatible... |
| 03:55.48 | dafen | really? |
| 03:56.03 | dafen | so it was the config file messed up with original kernelsource? |
| 03:56.06 | daedalus_ | dafen: often you can get away with copying the file, but not always. |
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| 03:56.33 | landslide | how long until debian supports kde 3.4? |
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| 03:56.42 | landslide | is there a roadmap? |
| 03:56.50 | chealer | landslide: ask #debian-kde |
| 03:57.07 | dafen | btw, for suspend to disk, and suspend to memory for ibm thinkpad t42, do I still need those patches as 2.6.5 needs? |
| 03:57.11 | landslide | thanks |
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| 03:57.24 | liable | !topicbadger landslide |
| 03:57.24 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that landslide didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 03:58.49 | DJ_Necrogami | here's my problem!! I have a 2wire wireless B PCMCIA card Onrinco chipset it dosnt detect in ubuntu Hoary it detects there's a card installed but no power light and dmesg outputs "Aug 9 22:32:58 localhost kernel: cs: unable to map card memory!" ive searched around many people seem to be having this problem anyone know a solution to help me fix this problem |
| 03:59.12 | daedalus_ | !tell DJ_Necrogami about not dbian |
| 03:59.20 | daedalus_ | !tell DJ_Necrogami about not debian |
| 03:59.26 | chealer | buu: what's your sound card? is it something like an emu10k? |
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| 03:59.50 | DJ_Necrogami | guess what |
| 03:59.50 | Angel-SL | daedalus_, did you know ubuntu is made using debian??????? |
| 03:59.52 | DJ_Necrogami | this is Debian |
| 04:00.11 | DJ_Necrogami | since its done a complete repackage from the debian repo's |
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| 04:00.44 | gravity | DJ_Necrogami: Not debian. |
| 04:00.49 | liable | !tell DJ_Necrogami about based on debian |
| 04:00.51 | DJ_Necrogami | debian |
| 04:00.52 | gravity | DJ_Necrogami: If it was Debian, it'd be called debian |
| 04:00.59 | gravity | But it's not |
| 04:01.02 | DJ_Necrogami | w/e |
| 04:01.15 | DJ_Necrogami | its STILL the same problem regardless what my "GUI tells me" |
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| 04:01.30 | dafen | ok now the main trouble for my laptop is that when battery gets criticle , it doesn't shutdown automatically |
| 04:01.31 | gravity | It's not a problem with Debian |
| 04:01.42 | dafen | I've heard it requires a lot tricks to do so |
| 04:01.59 | ardy | is there a gcc channel? |
| 04:01.59 | DJ_Necrogami | since PCMCIA / Hotplug and All other Kernel stuff was Downloaded w/ apt-get and installed from debian ftp repo's |
| 04:02.15 | reilithion | Ok, I know my wireless network card is working because I can log onto the wireless router itself. But I can't connect to the Internet through it like the windows laptops around here can. Do I need to set the router as a gateway or something? |
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| 04:04.26 | ardy | #join gcc |
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| 04:04.51 | Agent-MHX | can anyone help me with kubuntu? |
| 04:05.03 | gravity | Agent-MHX: #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
| 04:05.09 | Agent-MHX | i'm banned from ubuntu |
| 04:05.14 | gravity | Agent-MHX: Not our problem |
| 04:05.14 | liable | haha |
| 04:05.15 | reilithion | lol |
| 04:05.18 | Agent-MHX | :) |
| 04:05.34 | DJ_Necrogami | Damn Debian Users are turely pricks |
| 04:05.39 | deadcat | Agent-MHX: hahaha. you deserve it. |
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| 04:06.06 | deadcat | #ubuntu is user friendly. if you get banned there. you wont last long here. |
| 04:06.08 | liable | Agent-MHX: time to be nice to the ops in #ubuntu and say you will never do it again.. :) |
| 04:06.09 | gravity | DJ_Necrogami: We'll help debian users |
| 04:06.23 | Ubernewbie | debain rulz :P |
| 04:06.38 | deadcat | Ubernewbie: dont push it |
| 04:06.43 | Ubernewbie | k |
| 04:06.44 | Ubernewbie | lol |
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| 04:07.16 | pepsi | how can i pass a file to a program so it uses it for standard input? `cat file | program` works, but cant i use > or something to do that too? |
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| 04:07.29 | sussudio | !confuse pepsi |
| 04:07.30 | dpkg | Yes, who are their hamster today, pepsi? shirts of the monarchy of micronesia with extra herring |
| 04:07.35 | reilithion | I'm really upset. I can't figure out why I can't connect to the Internet with my Debian lappy |
| 04:07.41 | pepsi | sussudio, thanks |
| 04:07.51 | sekio | reilithion, what's the problem |
| 04:07.53 | gravity | pepsi: < |
| 04:07.58 | sussudio | !< |
| 04:08.12 | EvilSporkMan | is there some new copy protection out that beats cdparanoia? I'm ripping a pretty virgin copy of Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill (acoustic) and cdparanoia is having read errors at the ends of tracks (been trying on track 7 for a while now) |
| 04:08.46 | reilithion | The wireless card is working, because I can connect to the router (it has port 80 open for admin stuff) but when I open a browser and try to connect to any website, it just sits there and eventually tells me that it can't find whatever I'm trying to connect to. |
| 04:08.49 | sussudio | EvilSporkMan: cdparanoia is probably resisting the Alanis CD. i would too. |
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| 04:09.13 | liable | reilithion: fix your resolv.conf |
| 04:09.20 | DJ_Necrogami | lol sussudio lmfao .. i would do |
| 04:09.22 | DJ_Necrogami | to** |
| 04:09.23 | pepsi | gravity, that doesnt seem to work, at least with echo |
| 04:09.25 | EvilSporkMan | sussudio: i had it happen with (an admittedly scratched copy of) Mars Volta's Frances the Mute |
| 04:09.51 | pepsi | works with cat though |
| 04:09.57 | reilithion | which one? |
| 04:10.06 | gravity | pepsi: works with cay |
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| 04:10.12 | gravity | cat even |
| 04:10.18 | reilithion | the one in /etc/dhcpc or the one in /etc ? |
| 04:10.23 | pepsi | does echo do something different that makes it not work? |
| 04:11.13 | liable | reilithion: /etc/resolv.conf, whats in it? |
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| 04:11.15 | gravity | dunno. < is the standard |
| 04:11.34 | reilithion | search linuxcertified.com |
| 04:11.42 | reilithion | nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 04:11.48 | reilithion | nameserver 192.168.0.2 |
| 04:11.57 | reilithion | EOF |
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| 04:12.28 | liable | your router is 192.168.1.1? |
| 04:12.36 | pepsi | ok, so `cat < infile > outfile` seems to use infile for cat's stdin and outfile for its stdout, is that correct? |
| 04:12.39 | reilithion | No, the router is 192.168.0.2 |
| 04:12.45 | reilithion | 1.1 is the dsl modem |
| 04:13.13 | gravity | pepsi: yes |
| 04:13.52 | liable | reilithion: try putting in the dns servers for your isp, and see if it works. |
| 04:13.58 | reilithion | Frankly, I don't know what ought to be in resolv.conf |
| 04:14.26 | reilithion | How do I find the dns servers? |
| 04:15.12 | ale[x] | try 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 |
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| 04:18.12 | reilithion | I pinged debian.org on this machine (runs WinXP) to find its IP address. I pinged 192.25.206.10 from my Debian lappy and it comes back to me with 100% packet loss. |
| 04:18.57 | reilithion | Added those two IPs to resolv.conf and it still can't find anything |
| 04:19.01 | deadcat | topic |
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| 04:20.12 | reilithion | deadcat: I'm trying to get connected to the Internet through an unencrypted network. |
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| 04:20.28 | deadcat | reilithion: why you telling me? |
| 04:20.41 | reilithion | I thought you were asking me what I was talking about when you said "topic" |
| 04:20.49 | deadcat | reilithion: oh. i missed the / (= |
| 04:20.53 | liable | reilithion: you can ping the router though? |
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| 04:20.55 | reilithion | lol |
| 04:20.58 | reilithion | yeah |
| 04:21.03 | Area-51 | so is there a big difference between nfs-kernel-server and nfs-user-server and like which one should i use? (debian sarge, kernel 2.6.11.8) |
| 04:21.04 | reilithion | I can even log onto it and change stuff |
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| 04:21.25 | liable | can you ping www.google.com? |
| 04:21.47 | reilithion | Trying now |
| 04:21.50 | reilithion | It's sitting there. |
| 04:22.14 | sekio | area51, it depends, the kernel server is faster and more(?) secure, the user server is slower and more configurable |
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| 04:22.40 | reilithion | ping: unknown host www.google.com |
| 04:23.39 | deadcat | ping 147.144.1.2 |
| 04:23.53 | lazlo | q! |
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| 04:25.03 | freddo_ | hello |
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| 04:25.31 | reilithion | PING 147.144.1.2 (147.144.1.2) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 04:25.36 | reilithion | and now it's sitting there again. |
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| 04:25.49 | deadcat | reilithion: you got no connection |
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| 04:26.31 | liable | reilithion: check your gateway etc |
| 04:26.39 | aaronlin | Debian did not pick up my monitor, so it treated it as a generic monitor, so my monitor cannot have a resolution greater than 800x600. What program should I run to fix this? |
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| 04:27.15 | reilithion | Where can I learn how to check my gateway and "etc."? |
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| 04:27.40 | reilithion | I mean, I'd be happy to rtfm if I could find the fm |
| 04:27.44 | liable | reilithion: man interfaces, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples |
| 04:27.57 | reilithion | thanks |
| 04:28.13 | andyetitmoves | can anyone tell me why i get "Couldn't create temporary FIFO" when I try to become root from within aptitude ? |
| 04:28.13 | liable | man iwconfig too :) |
| 04:28.58 | smains | aaronlin, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:29.05 | freddo_ | i'm having problems with apt-get telling me: 'Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server', 'Xlib: No protocol specified', 'frontend: cannot connect to X server :0.0' and finally exitting with 'error exit status 1'. i get this with thunderbird, less and openssh, could someone help me to get it working? |
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| 04:29.25 | aaronlin | thanks |
| 04:29.27 | smains | aaronlin, then you can make the advanced monitor thingie where you manually input the monitor specs |
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| 04:31.18 | aaronlin | no such command as dpkg-reconfigure |
| 04:31.30 | aaronlin | nm |
| 04:31.38 | aaronlin | I needed to be root |
| 04:31.57 | narg | I find adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to your PATH is nice |
| 04:32.00 | narg | you cant run anything |
| 04:32.03 | narg | but you know it exists! :p |
| 04:32.39 | jetx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:33.16 | jetx | !hwinfo |
| 04:33.16 | dpkg | [hwinfo] your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
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| 04:33.33 | narg | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.39 | chealer | freddo_: what's the link between apt-get and the others? |
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| 04:35.37 | narg | If you did a swapon, it it till boot, or until you swapoff? |
| 04:35.38 | freddo_ | chealer, i'm trying to 'apt-get install less', for example, and i get the Xlib related messages... |
| 04:35.57 | freddo_ | chealer, same for thunderbird and openssh |
| 04:36.10 | Supaplex | is there anyway to determine what releases of wine have hit testing for the last 6 months? |
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| 04:36.28 | chealer | freddo_: hum, what do you have in dpkg-reconfigure debconf? |
| 04:37.19 | freddo_ | chealer, may i copy/paste the result to you in msg? |
| 04:37.31 | chealer | freddo_: paste it on #flood |
| 04:37.36 | freddo_ | k |
| 04:38.41 | chealer | heh...what's your release? |
| 04:39.04 | deadcat | how do i check the ip of 80.248.225.27? which is someone on the this irc server. |
| 04:39.20 | freddo_ | the amd64 testing/unstable |
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| 04:39.46 | chealer | freddo_: do you know about sux? |
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| 04:39.53 | freddo_ | chealer, but i bet i probably made a mistake somewhere |
| 04:40.34 | freddo_ | chealer, no what is it? |
| 04:40.44 | chealer | !tell freddo_ about sux |
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| 04:41.06 | liable | deadcat: why? |
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| 04:41.36 | chealer | freddo_: anyway, install it and login as root using sux |
| 04:41.39 | loke- | sup |
| 04:41.41 | loke- | people |
| 04:42.25 | freddo_ | chealer, ok thank you, i'm going to try that |
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| 04:44.05 | SimonRaven | deadcat: host $IP |
| 04:44.12 | SimonRaven | or dig -x $IP |
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| 04:45.24 | deadcat | liable: someone is going while with my gallery |
| 04:48.16 | freddo_ | chealer, what ever i do, apt-get gives me that Xlib message too for sux and openssh-server (i just tried to install bsdgames, and it works ok) |
| 04:49.14 | chealer | freddo_: ah...so you can't install sux? |
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| 04:49.46 | freddo_ | chealer, yes i can't |
| 04:49.55 | liable | deadcat: oh, restart it. kick em off :) |
| 04:50.12 | chealer | freddo_: freddo_what happens if you run it in a tty? |
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| 04:50.30 | chealer | double freddo_: sorry, it's getting late |
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| 04:52.42 | freddo_ | chealer, the same, it cannot connect to the x server |
| 04:52.58 | freddo_ | chealer, ok, no problems, thanks for your help again |
| 04:53.36 | chealer | I guess you could try running your x terminal as root |
| 04:54.03 | Supaplex | is there a mailing list that publishes releases of packages as they're approved for the testing branch? |
| 04:54.24 | deadcat | liable: i guess. i guess i can use route to block them. hehe |
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| 04:54.41 | freddo_ | chealer, i already tried that and it doesnt help :( |
| 04:54.42 | deadcat | liable: using windows to visit my site is bad.. but the dude uses opera.. thats a nono to me |
| 04:54.56 | liable | haha :) |
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| 04:55.07 | freddo_ | chealer, i also tried to 'xhost +localhost' too |
| 04:55.24 | Supaplex | xhost is evil. use ssh with X fowarding. |
| 04:55.28 | liable | deadcat: how many hits did you get when you put that url up? |
| 04:56.04 | deadcat | liable: let me wc -l it |
| 04:56.13 | deadcat | liable: i dont mind the hits. just not opera (= |
| 04:57.01 | ohad_ | postfix anyone ? i have setup everything and for some reason when i send myself an email i don't get anything in my logs and in the bounce back. #postfix is asleep |
| 04:57.06 | deadcat | liable: 478 not counting me. |
| 04:57.07 | ohad_ | any ideas? |
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| 04:58.25 | liable | deadcat: shit, fair bit for pasting it here. Thats not 478 ip's though? |
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| 04:58.47 | deadcat | liable: oh. (=.. no thats all the hits including that ip |
| 04:59.06 | deadcat | liable: grep 2005 access.log | grep linux |grep world |grep -v DIDNT |wc -l |
| 05:00.21 | liable | deadcat: k, about 15 from me :) |
| 05:00.40 | chealer | freddo_: sorry, I have no clue |
| 05:00.43 | ohad_ | postfix anyone? |
| 05:00.43 | deadcat | liable: hhahaah. |
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| 05:02.05 | freddo_ | chealer, no problems and thanks a lot, i'm going to look at how to install sux |
| 05:02.12 | exobyte | Will this make allow me to read from foo as though it's a file? mkfifo foo ; tail -f bar > foo ; cat foo |
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| 05:09.31 | Jay | Has anyone in here tried to compile Stepmania from source? |
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| 05:13.22 | Area-51 | does anyone know how to mount a debian nfs export to a windows 2000 machine? :) |
| 05:13.35 | deadcat | Area-51: no |
| 05:13.38 | dondelelcaro | Area-51: why bother? export it as smb |
| 05:13.42 | deadcat | they prefer samba for this case |
| 05:14.01 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: how $ did you guys make today? |
| 05:14.02 | Area-51 | yes, but something seems eithor b0rked with samba or my network config on the debian box |
| 05:14.11 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: none, it's all donations |
| 05:14.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: who donates the tshirts? |
| 05:14.48 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: we take out the cost of the t-shirts from the amount paid, and everything left over goes to SPI |
| 05:15.04 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ah.. ncie.. |
| 05:15.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i got a large.. figure medium is gonna come back and bite me later on. |
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| 05:16.52 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 05:17.12 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: did you get anything useful? cool? |
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| 05:18.02 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: nah, not really; didn't actually bother to collect swag there |
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| 05:18.35 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: (=. the retractable rj45 cable is useful.. |
| 05:19.20 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: all the tshirts are L, but not debian L, they are big... lets hope they shrink like a bunch of bitches |
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| 05:26.52 | tbx | could someone please point me to some bashrc niftiness examples? For instance, I would like my prompt to list the current dir, not the entire path. |
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| 05:27.12 | deadcat | tbx: search PS1 on google |
| 05:27.30 | jm_ | tbx: bash prompt howto |
| 05:27.34 | deadcat | tbx: thats \W <- basename(dir) |
| 05:27.53 | jm_ | and man bash and read PROMPTING section |
| 05:28.08 | rking | deadcat: why'd you cave? you can't give the direct answer... even /i/ know that |
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| 05:28.27 | Angel-SL | is there a way to printscreen in debian |
| 05:28.30 | deadcat | rking: you want a piece of me? (= |
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| 05:28.41 | tbx | jm_: yes, thanks, I did start reading man bash, but damn, that sucka's long! |
| 05:28.53 | tbx | deadcat: thank you. |
| 05:28.56 | Angel-SL | is there a way to printscreen in debia? |
| 05:29.00 | rking | deadcat: ehh... dead cats are already progressing towards the "pieces" stage... i think i'll leave that one in its own decadence |
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| 05:29.08 | Angel-SL | HEy |
| 05:29.11 | Angel-SL | is there a way to printscreen in debia? |
| 05:29.15 | deadcat | rking: pussy.. |
| 05:29.28 | Angel-SL | hello |
| 05:29.31 | Angel-SL | is there a way to printscreen in debia? |
| 05:29.33 | Angel-SL | ??? |
| 05:29.34 | rking | Angel-SL: i'll be like deadcat: apt-get install imagemagick; import foo.png |
| 05:29.42 | jair | guys exist a package in debian which one will allow me to create a vpn? |
| 05:29.42 | dondelelcaro | Angel-SL: you don't need to repeat; and yes, there are ways of doing that. |
| 05:29.50 | jair | or secure pptp connection? |
| 05:29.57 | deadcat | rking: thats the spirit |
| 05:30.01 | jair | or I should go with a tunneling vnc? |
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| 05:30.08 | dondelelcaro | jair: just use openvpn or similar. |
| 05:30.10 | rking | jair: apt-cache search vpn; or consider using ssh, which is better anyway |
| 05:30.23 | jm_ | jair: several |
| 05:30.43 | Angel-SL | imagemagick is already the newest version. |
| 05:31.10 | rking | Angel-SL: sweet, then just import foo.png; (or import goat.gif, if you're into that sort of thing) |
| 05:32.03 | Angel-SL | where does it save to? |
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| 05:32.09 | jair | the issue my good colegues is that in my network I have a 70 % of win xp users and the other ones are debians some netbsd and freebsd |
| 05:32.15 | rking | Anders: foo.png or goat.gif if you're into that sort of thing. |
| 05:32.20 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: guess what i was gonna say to the fedora booth? (= hahahh |
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| 05:32.43 | jair | dondelelcaro, rking jm_ with thouse suggestions I will be able to connect to either systems win and unix? |
| 05:32.48 | jair | linux as well? |
| 05:32.51 | rking | jair: ssh works on windows with putty, and ssh + X even works with cygwin. |
| 05:32.53 | Angel-SL | where does it save the import to? |
| 05:33.09 | rking | Angel-SL: dammit, foo.png or goat.gif if you're into that sort of thing. |
| 05:33.10 | jair | rking, cool |
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| 05:33.15 | rking | Angel-SL: try it |
| 05:33.23 | Angel-SL | and |
| 05:33.25 | cahoot | Angel-SL: even bothered to look in the present dir? |
| 05:33.26 | jair | rking, but I will have to do a tunneling from the ssh to vnc right? |
| 05:33.43 | Angel-SL | where does my dcc receive files go to |
| 05:33.47 | Angel-SL | xchat |
| 05:33.52 | deadcat | Angel-SL: ~ |
| 05:33.59 | jair | I normally use putty to connect from windows clients to linux ones |
| 05:34.05 | jair | it wokrs perfect I love it |
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| 05:34.12 | rking | jair: well, if you already have some nazi vpn thing set up by some gestapo sysadmin, you'll just have to use whatever they give you... but if you're the one setting stuff up, consider just basic ssh solutions |
| 05:34.19 | jair | but if a user outside will try to conenct to a windows machine |
| 05:34.29 | Angel-SL | deadcat, ~? |
| 05:34.42 | jair | they will need some kind of program to remotely control or access the network |
| 05:34.56 | rking | jair: samba share the stuff onto a decent machine... don't try to make windows work when it doesn't want to, is my opinion |
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| 05:35.12 | jair | rking, nice |
| 05:35.38 | jair | I am the IT director so I am the one that can implement stuff "thank god" ;) |
| 05:36.07 | reilithion | this is starting to get really confusing |
| 05:36.07 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know why I keep getting blocked? |
| 05:36.09 | TwistedEmotions | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 05:36.09 | TwistedEmotions | error403: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' |
| 05:36.18 | Angel-SL | :@ |
| 05:36.36 | TwistedEmotions | Do I not have a required package installed? I installed mysql-server5.0 or whatever |
| 05:36.41 | rking | jair: take my advice with a grain of salt - i use mutt for email, not outlook express, so there are plenty of users that wouldn't "get" my answers to their questions |
| 05:37.19 | jair | I use thunderbird for the client email |
| 05:37.26 | jair | in both linux and win |
| 05:37.33 | jair | they are very similar in both |
| 05:37.37 | dak | anyone know what package has wlanctl-ng, checked aptcache in sid and it dont |
| 05:37.37 | jair | works great |
| 05:37.44 | dak | and im on google looking all over |
| 05:38.08 | reilithion | It seems that I need to set the IP for my DSL modem as my default gateway. But the modem is in network 192.168.1 and in order to get to it, datagrams have to go through the router, which is on network 192.168.0. When I try to route add default gw 192.168.1.1 ath0, it says the network is unreachable. wtf? |
| 05:38.24 | jair | check in debian.org/packagelist |
| 05:38.54 | jair | hmmm |
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| 05:38.56 | dak | u mean packages.debian.org ? |
| 05:39.00 | jair | yes |
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| 05:39.03 | jair | dak, yes |
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| 05:39.25 | dak | its not jair |
| 05:39.48 | dak | i cant even find the friggin home page for the app |
| 05:39.57 | dak | never mind the deb |
| 05:40.10 | dak | its gotta be some script for redhat i guess |
| 05:40.19 | dak | airsnort calls for it tho |
| 05:41.00 | reilithion | Could I just start up routed and let it handle things? |
| 05:41.22 | SimonRaven | trying to get rid of some noise in a sound file, due to an over-emphasised 'k', and end up sounding like 'dzzt' instead of 'k'. i'm using audacity. HTF do i fix this? |
| 05:41.48 | dak | wrong chan man |
| 05:41.55 | SimonRaven | tried lowering the amplitude but that didn't work out too well |
| 05:42.01 | dak | think they just try to stick to like debian problems and the os its self |
| 05:42.09 | dak | you check your wires ? |
| 05:42.19 | dak | and u sure you are using the right driver for your sound card ? |
| 05:42.33 | dak | iv had that with wrong soundcard drives a long time ago like real long time ago |
| 05:42.42 | SimonRaven | duh, i wouldn't hear anything if i didn't use the right driver. ffs |
| 05:42.51 | SimonRaven | @kill dak |
| 05:42.55 | dak | uhm yeah you would simon |
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| 05:43.41 | dak | over 11 ears of linux use, you tend to find some odd things out simon |
| 05:43.52 | dak | dick |
| 05:44.05 | liable | reilithion: this is ppoe I take it? |
| 05:45.22 | reilithion | You know, liable, I don't really know for sure. I don't think I need to worry about ppoe, but I'm obviously no expert. |
| 05:45.44 | dak | dsl is ppoe |
| 05:45.51 | SimonRaven | why involve a routing daemon in a simple default route set up? |
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| 05:46.07 | reilithion | *shrugs* Ok, so it's ppoe. I know nothing. |
| 05:46.14 | dak | what are u doing ? |
| 05:46.23 | SimonRaven | pppoe |
| 05:46.33 | deadcat | dak: nothin much. watching the game. having a bud. |
| 05:46.36 | SimonRaven | not much different than dialup, fyi |
| 05:46.42 | liable | heheh |
| 05:46.43 | dak | reilithion do you have your drivers loaded for the nic ? |
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| 05:47.04 | SimonRaven | in terms of config, and stuff |
| 05:47.19 | reilithion | I just want to get my laptop to connect to the Internet. It goes Laptop -> Wireless card -> D-Link wireless router -> DSL modem |
| 05:47.36 | dak | dude i know |
| 05:47.37 | liable | reilithion: can your router handle the connection, then just use your router as the gateway.. |
| 05:47.41 | deadcat | reilithion: looks do'able |
| 05:47.45 | Yzze | Alguem do Brasil? |
| 05:47.48 | dak | what kind of wireless card do u have ? |
| 05:47.51 | dak | wtf |
| 05:47.54 | reilithion | Athlon |
| 05:47.57 | dak | god you are so confusing |
| 05:48.04 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:48.06 | SimonRaven | um, so why aren't you setting the router as default gateway? |
| 05:48.13 | dak | the computer that is linux, what is it wired or wireless ? |
| 05:48.16 | reilithion | er |
| 05:48.18 | reilithion | no |
| 05:48.22 | reilithion | Atheros 5212 |
| 05:48.29 | SimonRaven | means fuck all to me |
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| 05:48.38 | deadcat | i think hes trying to confuse you guys. |
| 05:48.38 | reilithion | wireless |
| 05:48.47 | liable | atheros.. |
| 05:48.53 | SimonRaven | and i doubt this has anything to do with the routing table |
| 05:49.01 | reilithion | Sorry. I'm trying to work with you guys here. I'll try to be more verbose and communicative. |
| 05:49.11 | SimonRaven | it still is meaningless. and irrelevant |
| 05:49.37 | dak | http://linux.seindal.dk/item23.html reilithion that is a guide for your card |
| 05:49.39 | dak | in debian |
| 05:49.44 | SimonRaven | why isn't the router doing the dailing anyway? |
| 05:50.06 | reilithion | SimonRaven what do you mean? |
| 05:50.11 | dak | to me, i think the fastest way of getting wifi to work on most cards is ndiswrapper, but im lazy |
| 05:50.17 | liable | ewww |
| 05:50.30 | dak | and i have alot of cards so its just easyer |
| 05:50.35 | dak | 1 module at least |
| 05:50.42 | SimonRaven | default route to router, router does the pppoe |
| 05:50.46 | SimonRaven | simple. |
| 05:50.57 | dak | reilithion u dont need to screw with the default route |
| 05:51.06 | dak | ima paste u my /etc/network/interfaces line |
| 05:51.09 | dak | for my wlan0 |
| 05:51.10 | dak | k ? |
| 05:51.19 | reilithion | ok |
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| 05:51.39 | SimonRaven | that's what routers do, you know |
| 05:51.42 | SJr|Tecra | apt-get install libapache-mod-dav hangs, what can I do |
| 05:51.43 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 05:51.47 | dak | see its just like a normal setup |
| 05:51.53 | dak | just its wlan0 not eth0 |
| 05:52.03 | dserban_ | What's the correct "way" to set system-wide prompts (PS1) in bash? /etc/profile?? |
| 05:52.06 | dak | and see u gotta see what it is on your card, im looking at this howto and it calls it ath0 not wlan0 |
| 05:52.24 | jm_ | dserban_: man bash will tell you which files it reads on startup (invocation section) |
| 05:52.37 | reilithion | Yeah, the card works fine |
| 05:52.44 | reilithion | It can talk to the router |
| 05:52.47 | dak | and all u need to get your ip is to run dhcp reilithion... just read that url http://linux.seindal.dk/item23.html its step by step. |
| 05:52.47 | reilithion | but no further. |
| 05:52.49 | dserban_ | jm_, thanks. |
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| 05:53.03 | dak | its better then anyone in this chan can help u with because it tells u every thing man |
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| 05:53.36 | dak | reilithion make sure u have pcmcia-cs tools installed |
| 05:53.45 | mwilson | dak: But apparently written by someone who thinks 'u' is a word. |
| 05:53.58 | dak | i didnt write it. |
| 05:54.25 | dak | its .dk what can you expect |
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| 05:54.57 | dak | and as for my saying "u" i dont care i type so much every day my fingers feel like they wanna fall off so whatever im lazy on irc |
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| 05:55.18 | mwilson | Awwwww... |
| 05:55.20 | dak | :/ |
| 05:55.25 | mwilson | Everyone cry for dak. |
| 05:55.30 | dak | please cry |
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| 05:55.44 | dak | mwilson i bet i could make ya feel bad for me but i wont... |
| 05:55.53 | nkuttler | muahahah |
| 05:56.04 | dak | well mroe then fingers hurting |
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| 05:56.18 | nitinshantharam | noone here has heard of smart battery system have they? |
| 05:56.26 | reilithion | How come I can ping my router but not my DSL modem? |
| 05:56.29 | dondelelcaro | nitinshantharam: just ask your actual question. |
| 05:57.00 | dak | like bone marrow failure compaird to fingers hurting is a joke |
| 05:57.00 | nkuttler | reilithion: add more information to your question |
| 05:57.06 | nitinshantharam | fine, does anyone have a ferrari 4000 (laptop) and have battery support / monitoring working at all - it uses the smart battery system |
| 05:57.08 | SJr|Tecra | Guys when I try and install libapache-mod-dav it hangs, what can I do? |
| 05:57.13 | mwilson | I already feel badly for you. It's sad that your schooling has left you expressing yourself so poorly. |
| 05:57.19 | dondelelcaro | reilithion: your DSL modem may not actually have an ip. |
| 05:57.23 | dak | idds are he is pinging him self nkuttler |
| 05:57.30 | mwilson | Not install libapache-mod-dav? |
| 05:57.45 | dak | mwilson wanna pay off the rest of my student lones then ? |
| 05:57.57 | dondelelcaro | SJr|Tecra: give us the exact output of what you are doing (/msg dpkg paster) and explain how it "hangs" |
| 05:58.54 | ohad_ | when trying to login to postfix i get the following error chdir mydomain.here/ohad/: No such file or directory? |
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| 05:59.28 | reilithion | nkuttler: I'm set up like this: laptop -> wireless card -> D-link wireless router -> dsl modem |
| 05:59.33 | dondelelcaro | ohad_: you appear to have not configured postfix correctly, nor to have created the directories it needs for your improper configuration. |
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| 05:59.37 | Agent-MHX | i like porn |
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| 05:59.45 | reilithion | I can ping the router, so the card is working, but I can't ping the modem |
| 05:59.47 | mwilson | reilithion: Why should you be able to ping the modem? |
| 05:59.50 | MrBucket42 | Hello! |
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| 06:00.23 | MrBucket42 | I modified my "interfaces" file. How do I implement the changes without rebooting? |
| 06:00.29 | dondelelcaro | MrBucket42: ifup -a; |
| 06:00.39 | dondelelcaro | (with possibly some ifdown'ing) |
| 06:00.52 | ohad_ | dondelelcaro, SOMTHING A BIT MORE SPECIFIC? |
| 06:01.01 | SJr|Tecra | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/458 |
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| 06:01.10 | ohad_ | sorry for the caps |
| 06:01.12 | mwilson | Wouldn't you just want to use /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
| 06:01.14 | MrBucket42 | dondelelcaro- If I do ifdown wont I get disconnected? |
| 06:01.21 | MrBucket42 | I am trying to do this remotely. |
| 06:01.22 | dondelelcaro | MrBucket42: generally, yes. |
| 06:01.32 | rking | ohad_: grep mydomain /etc -ris |
| 06:01.33 | MrBucket42 | Maybe it would be better just to reboot. |
| 06:01.45 | rking | ohad_: if one of the results is a postfix file, maybe start there. |
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| 06:01.47 | mwilson | You don't think rebooting is going to disconnect you? |
| 06:01.54 | rking | ohad_: or sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix |
| 06:02.05 | dondelelcaro | MrBucket42: it would probably be best to bring up a temporary interface; and then test the changes by using ifdown and ifup on the interfaces that youve changed. |
| 06:02.29 | dondelelcaro | ohad_: lose the caps please; You've set your hostname to myhostname which won't work at all, and then haven't created the directories that correspond to your configuration. |
| 06:02.30 | litage | where is kmail's log file kept? i can't seem to find it |
| 06:02.33 | MrBucket42 | mwilson- If I do ifdown I wont be able to reconnect after I do it... if I reboot I will be able to reconnect after it finishes. |
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| 06:02.58 | ohad_ | ok. thx |
| 06:02.58 | mwilson | MrBucket42: If you say so. |
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| 06:03.29 | dondelelcaro | litage: most user-oriented programs don't have logfiles. |
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| 06:03.54 | litage | dondelelcaro: really??? |
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| 06:04.28 | dimir | Morning. |
| 06:04.28 | rking | litage: check ~/.xsession-errors |
| 06:05.01 | rking | litage: the "user-oriented programs" typically just output trouble to STDOUT, which in the case of programs invoked through normal X means, gets redirected to ~/.xsession-errors |
| 06:05.08 | litage | rking: i'll check that, but the reason i'm wanting to find kmail's log(s) is to see how it's connecting and handling smtp traffic |
| 06:05.22 | rking | litage: strace. always strace. |
| 06:05.22 | mwilson | litage: Badly. |
| 06:05.23 | nkuttler | litage: try find ~/.kde -name kmail or similar |
| 06:05.42 | rking | am i the only one who uses strace 2+ times a day? |
| 06:05.49 | rking | if so, i feel lonely. |
| 06:05.53 | dimir | nkuttler: it's in ~/.kde/share/apps |
| 06:06.03 | nkuttler | dimir: tell him |
| 06:06.07 | dimir | :-) |
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| 06:06.30 | dimir | rking: I use it pretty much ;-) |
| 06:06.43 | rking | dimir: *phew* |
| 06:06.46 | dimir | lol |
| 06:06.59 | dimir | !beer rking |
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| 06:08.18 | Scorpaen | hey guys i got a custom kernel. boot perfectly except for if i have initrd line in kernel |
| 06:08.27 | Scorpaen | i have to take the initrd line out of grub |
| 06:08.30 | SJr|Tecra | Ah Scorpaen |
| 06:08.33 | dimir | wow |
| 06:08.34 | Scorpaen | i get cramfs and kernel panic |
| 06:08.39 | Scorpaen | hi SJr|Tecra |
| 06:08.49 | SJr|Tecra | are you the one and the same from Undernet |
| 06:08.50 | dondelelcaro | SJr|Tecra: right; so remove them and add them back only to the kernel images that need them. |
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| 06:08.58 | dondelelcaro | s/SJrTecra/Scorpaen/ |
| 06:09.01 | mwilson | Scorpaen: Does your custom kernel use an initrd |
| 06:09.03 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, yes |
| 06:09.14 | Scorpaen | mwilson, not sure |
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| 06:09.36 | mwilson | Scorpaen: How can you not be sure? |
| 06:09.47 | Scorpaen | mwilson, it won't boot if i have that line in grub |
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| 06:10.01 | mwilson | Scorpaen: That's not what I asked you. |
| 06:10.07 | Lafy | what ports would samba need open for authentication against a win2k domain? |
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| 06:10.21 | SJr|Tecra | ram disk |
| 06:10.27 | SJr|Tecra | ? |
| 06:10.38 | Scorpaen | ah right |
| 06:10.40 | dimir | Lafy: depends on what does it use, kerberos auth, ldap auth, ldaps auth? |
| 06:10.48 | Scorpaen | i know it can be used for pretty fbsplash |
| 06:10.54 | Scorpaen | what kernel options do i need to enable it? |
| 06:11.10 | dimir | scarynetworkguy: vga |
| 06:11.14 | mwilson | Why do you need to enable it? |
| 06:11.16 | dimir | Scorpaen that is |
| 06:11.17 | dimir | :-) |
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| 06:11.26 | litage | thanks guys |
| 06:11.31 | Lafy | dimir: i really dont know... i'm happy to use whatever works.... |
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| 06:11.44 | Scorpaen | ok |
| 06:12.32 | dimir | Lafy: OK, open 389, 636, 88, 137, 138, 139 |
| 06:13.13 | dimir | Lafy: wait, these will be needed open on a win box |
| 06:13.14 | dimir | :-) |
| 06:13.20 | Lafy | yes i know... |
| 06:13.26 | dimir | OK |
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| 06:13.58 | dimir | first 2 are LDAP, next (636) is LDAP over SSL, next is kerberos and last 3 are NetBIOS crap |
| 06:14.18 | Lafy | i'd like to setup an ip-in-ip tunnel from the lan network card on my win2k box, through my firewall (crappy little router) to my debian box... is that possible? |
| 06:14.28 | dimir | s/first 2 are/first 1 is/ |
| 06:14.33 | naoliv | Hi. SOmeone can say to me what is the option "use-session-dbus" and what it does, on the file "/etc/X11/Xsession.options", please? |
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| 06:15.13 | EL | Hello all, i got my TV Tuner card working, and i am using tvtime to watch cable...i was wondering if anyone knows of a good aplication to record TV to my HDD? |
| 06:15.26 | jm_ | naoliv: check what it does in other files |
| 06:15.32 | deadcat | EL: mythtv or freevo |
| 06:15.35 | dimir | Lafy: I didn't quite get what you'd like to do :-/ |
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| 06:16.44 | EL | are they on apt? |
| 06:16.52 | naoliv | jm_: The problem is that I don't know what is "dbus". I did a "man Xsession.options" to see what is this option, but the man paga is outdated and don't have this information. |
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| 06:18.24 | dondelelcaro | EL: there are unnoffical packages of mythtv available that are fairly good; they're not in Debian primariliy because the mythtv system is really set up to take over the box and just do mythtv |
| 06:18.57 | Lafy | dimir: i have a w2k box and a debian box, the debian box is an email server, it checks the w2k box to validate user accounts against the domain. the w2k box has been hacked a bunch of times so i just tossed it behind a crappy little d-link router. now i want to allow the debian box access to the domain through the router... i would _like_ to use ip-in-ip (no real reason why...)... basically i want to allow the debian box access to the active directo |
| 06:20.13 | Lafy | all my problems started when i opened up those ports so that my email server could authenicate... it allowed people to hack into the w2k box and mess it up... |
| 06:20.24 | dondelelcaro | Lafy: why not just migrate everything to LDAP or similar and ditch AD? |
| 06:20.35 | dondelelcaro | Lafy: and then just limit access to those ports to the Debian box? |
| 06:20.39 | Lafy | because that would be a bunch of work? |
| 06:20.55 | mhall | Alright, so I have an X server that keeps getting stuck in an infinite loop. I learned that one of the apparent causes is the X 'smart scheduler' so I disabled this. Now instead of locking up in a SIGALRM / sigreturn loop with the kernel it's stuck in a loop inside itself. Now, how do I trace its activity since strace will not show what it's up to? |
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| 06:21.53 | dondelelcaro | Lafy: so instead of fixing the real problem that is leading to your users information being readable by anyone, you're just going to patch around it? |
| 06:21.58 | Lafy | mhall: this might be a silly suggestion... but maybe ask in #kernel? |
| 06:22.05 | mhall | Lafy: I will try it. |
| 06:22.20 | dondelelcaro | mhall: attach gdb to it |
| 06:22.34 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: do you have the green tshirt with you? can you take a pic of it? my friend cant make it on thur so i might have to buy it for him. |
| 06:23.20 | mhall | dondelelcaro: Alright, I know how to do this. |
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| 06:23.32 | Lafy | i hate wireless |
| 06:23.32 | mhall | dondelelcaro: But I'm admittedly woefully incompetent with gdb. |
| 06:23.44 | mhall | dondelelcaro: So, backtrace, and what else should I collect? |
| 06:23.59 | dondelelcaro | mhall: and just step through the bits where it is looping non stop |
| 06:24.00 | dimir | Lafy: you need only a Debian box to access AD on win box, right? |
| 06:24.05 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: http://gallery.donarmstrong.com/2005/07_july/012_can_we_please_take_this_picture_20050712.jpg |
| 06:24.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: thanks. oh damn. i got medium. i thought i got a large. )= |
| 06:24.31 | mhall | dondelelcaro: My understanding is, X is single threaded. |
| 06:24.33 | rking | mhall: also, don't forget ol' ltrace |
| 06:24.36 | mhall | dondelelcaro: So that should work. |
| 06:24.39 | mhall | rking: ltrace? |
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| 06:25.03 | mhall | dondelelcaro: Now, as for break points, break on the functions that are often appearing in the backtrace output? |
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| 06:25.15 | rking | mhall: "library" trace - it traces user-side function calls rather than kernel-side calls only, like strace does |
| 06:25.17 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: http://gallery.donarmstrong.com/2005/07_july/debconf/p1010277.jpg may be better; http://gallery.donarmstrong.com/2005/07_july/debconf/p1010637.jpg is the black one |
| 06:25.28 | mhall | rking: ah, elite, same -p argument is acceptable? |
| 06:25.38 | dondelelcaro | mhall: sure, or just attach it when it is looping |
| 06:25.50 | mhall | dondelelcaro: Yeah it's in the loop as we speak. |
| 06:25.52 | rking | mhall: sho'nuff. |
| 06:27.04 | mhall | rking: hmm, weird crap |
| 06:27.13 | mhall | rking: it's not calling into a lib either |
| 06:27.22 | dondelelcaro | mhall: yeah, it's probably a tight loop |
| 06:27.26 | mhall | rking: i think maybe GDB now |
| 06:27.35 | rking | mhall: ok, that's fine... ltrace won't catch something like this: while (1) { int a = b * 2; } |
| 06:27.42 | mhall | dondelelcaro: the loop with smart sched enabled was quite a loose loop |
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| 06:28.09 | rking | mhall: yeah, gdb it up. bt helps, and otherwise start learning the help system that's builtin, e.g., help info |
| 06:28.29 | larsie | Hey.. I don't get this. I've recently installed Debian on my computer and I find very little when I do 'apt-cache search'.. |
| 06:28.32 | mhall | All I get out of GDB is "#0 0xb7512bde in ?? () |
| 06:28.33 | Lafy | dimir: i need for my debian box to access ad on my w2k box behind my router, but nothing else on the internet to be able to access the ad |
| 06:28.49 | mhall | er oops |
| 06:29.01 | mhall | All I get out of GDB backtrace is "#0 0xb7512bde in ?? ()" |
| 06:29.03 | rking | mhall: if you're going to be debugging stuff like this, you should have versions with symbols compiled in. |
| 06:29.19 | rking | mhall: know what i mean? |
| 06:29.20 | mhall | rking: Problem is that symbol debug X is totally different code. |
| 06:29.35 | mhall | rking: Statically compiled, probably behaves totally differently from what I hear. |
| 06:29.45 | rking | mhall: right - you'll have to compile your own X or find a .deb of something with symbols |
| 06:29.48 | mhall | rking: I think probably what I need is unstripped non-debug X. |
| 06:30.03 | mhall | rking: They have a symbol deb, but it's all static built and fucked up. |
| 06:30.08 | dondelelcaro | mhall: yes, which is why you'll have to use the -dbg package or beg someone to give you the dh_strip output. |
| 06:30.19 | rking | mhall: exactly. an example of a kind of package like that is debugperl, which i used today to find a problem with some code |
| 06:30.47 | larsie | How can I configure apt so that I can find more when I do apt-cache search? I'm interested in installing 'irssi-text' && ssh(d). |
| 06:30.48 | rking | dondelelcaro: baz? |
| 06:30.51 | dimir | Lafy: doesn't that mean you just nead to set up a firewall? That'd be simple. |
| 06:31.01 | dondelelcaro | !info bazaar-dbg |
| 06:31.03 | dpkg | bazaar-dbg: (arch revision control system debug symbols), section devel, is extra. Version: 1.4.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1110 kB, Installed size: 4212 kB |
| 06:31.09 | rking | larsie: alias apt-cache='links http://packages.debian.org' |
| 06:31.10 | dondelelcaro | rking: see above. |
| 06:31.12 | Lafy | dimir: the router is a firewall... |
| 06:31.20 | EL | is there a program that i can use, that does not take over the box, that i can record somthign of tv with? |
| 06:31.30 | EL | like tvtime...with a record button? hehe |
| 06:31.56 | Lafy | dimir: debian <---> The_Internet <---> d-link_router <---> w2k_active_directory |
| 06:31.57 | larsie | rking: You mean putting this line into sources.list or just write in console? |
| 06:31.59 | deadcat | EL: write one and let me get a copy (= |
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| 06:32.25 | rking | larsie: o |
| 06:32.29 | larsie | ???? |
| 06:32.37 | dimir | dimir: well set it up to accept connections to these ports only from the Debian box and forward these to AD. |
| 06:32.40 | rking | larsie: i'm kind of joking - just saying that http://packages.debian.org has more than apt-cache |
| 06:32.49 | EL | hahah, ill get right on that....how do all the pirates do it? |
| 06:32.58 | Lafy | dimir: i'm not sure that it's that configurable... |
| 06:33.07 | Lafy | it's a d-link router.. it's not very good... i'll take a look though... |
| 06:33.08 | mhall | I've seen numerous things on the 'net about this bug, both ATI and nvidia video. |
| 06:33.23 | mhall | Apparently what happens is that X has some form of internal timeslicing. |
| 06:33.25 | jaalto | Ahem - I've lost the package name that contains "debbuild". Does anyone know? I've tried dlocate, apt-cache searh |
| 06:33.25 | davis | where can i get the font "snap"? |
| 06:33.26 | Lafy | dimir: are all those ports tcp? |
| 06:33.29 | larsie | rking: how to search for stuff on packages.debian.org without downloading stuff from web |
| 06:33.45 | mhall | And, this causes calls to get interrupted with EINTR if they take a long time to complete. |
| 06:33.54 | larsie | I mean.. is it possible to download it by apt-get ? |
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| 06:34.01 | mhall | Like, on a system with a heavy load (mine) where call response time is very slow. |
| 06:34.10 | rking | larsie: yep - locate the packages you want with p.d.o, and then apt-get 'em. |
| 06:34.17 | EL | how come wmv;s dont play...so do, some dont? |
| 06:34.23 | larsie | What's p.d.o ? |
| 06:34.23 | EL | i got w32codecs |
| 06:34.29 | mhall | Then, it gets stuck in some kind of bizarre infinite loop trying to retry the calls, and always failing because of timeslice size limitations. |
| 06:34.30 | EL | what else do i need? |
| 06:34.32 | rking | larsie: packages.debian.org. =) |
| 06:34.45 | larsie | haha |
| 06:34.55 | mhall | Supposedly, disabling X smart scheduler would fix this. Admittedly, it did get _much_ better, but it's still fucked up. |
| 06:35.04 | larsie | oh, but I did the 'apt-get install irssi-text', it has allways worked before. |
| 06:35.15 | mhall | Interestingly in this instance, I triggered it with Azureus, and for most people it occurred in games. |
| 06:35.20 | dondelelcaro | larsie: what exactly is the issue? which packages are not showing up? |
| 06:35.33 | mhall | Also, it's apparently been happening since 2003 with no fix yet. |
| 06:35.41 | rking | larsie: oh... hrm, well, irssi-text is still the name as of unstable |
| 06:36.05 | rking | mhall: maybe noone's been bold enough to recompile X with symbols just to hunt down this problem. (seriously =)) |
| 06:36.11 | EL | ne1 know how to run wmv files under linux? |
| 06:36.13 | larsie | dondelelcaro: alot exactly.. I'm on another debian computer right now, and get like 8-9 results when 'apt-cache search irssi', downstairs (on the computer this problem is conserning) I got nada. |
| 06:36.18 | deadcat | !ne1 |
| 06:36.19 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 06:36.25 | larsie | The issue is that I'm noob and can't solve this problem. |
| 06:36.27 | rking | EL: mplayer, /msg dpkg mplayer? |
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| 06:36.30 | mhall | rking: Yeah, the last X bug I helped diagnose was quite a neat bug. |
| 06:36.51 | larsie | rking: okey, so you're saying that it's differents name of unstable irssi, ans stable irssi? |
| 06:37.00 | dondelelcaro | larsie: give us the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache search .|wc -l; |
| 06:37.02 | rking | mhall: honestly, i've never bothered bug-hunting X. it crashes and i just blink and log in again. =) |
| 06:37.07 | dondelelcaro | larsie: use the paster bot to paste it. |
| 06:37.31 | larsie | I can't paste it. THe problem is on a nother computer, which I don't have accsess to (can't install sshd). |
| 06:37.49 | larsie | and I don't got x. |
| 06:37.50 | dondelelcaro | larsie: well, we're going to be pretty hard pressed to help you wihtout that information. |
| 06:37.56 | larsie | :--) |
| 06:38.01 | larsie | I see. |
| 06:38.05 | rking | larsie: no - i'm just saying that irssi-text is the thing you used to use, and the absolute bleeding edge debian still uses that name... so everything in the middle is probably still the same. can you vaguely describe what happens with apt-get install irssi-text |
| 06:38.26 | larsie | k. give me' two secs. |
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| 06:40.25 | larsie | ofc. It was a n00b mistake. The sources.list was not correct. I've got # infront of 'deb ftp://debian.marked.no blabla'. |
| 06:40.34 | larsie | 'can't find the package' I got some error |
| 06:40.54 | mhall | rking: The last bug I found would only appear in the production version. |
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| 06:41.05 | dondelelcaro | larsie: ok; run apt-setup or similar, then apt-get update; then it should be fixed. |
| 06:41.14 | rking | mhall: which absolutely no X developer would be running. =) |
| 06:41.18 | mhall | rking: It was a bug in the X dynamic loader. |
| 06:41.49 | mhall | rking: They patched the SPARC kernel to disallow execution of instructions in VM pages not marked with PROT_EXEC. |
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| 06:42.04 | mhall | rking: And X mmaped executable code files into regions without that flag set. |
| 06:42.22 | larsie | dondelelcaro: have done the update, and it seems to work. ANother short question. Is it possible to do a RAS on my Debian? Like, people calling to this computer, the computer hangs up, then do the call back to the first caller? |
| 06:42.23 | mhall | rking: So it would segfault when it called these internally loaded entry points on startup. |
| 06:42.27 | rking | mhall: so which half was the bug? the one that mapped the code into those regions? |
| 06:42.28 | dimir | Lafy: to make sure, set up for both TCP and UDP |
| 06:42.36 | Lafy | ok |
| 06:42.53 | mhall | rking: Right. POSIX says calling entry points in regions not marked with PROT_EXEC is unspecified behavior. |
| 06:42.53 | larsie | I need to route a user, by modem, on my lan --> internet. |
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| 06:43.01 | litage | how can i determine with netstat or some other command which ports kmail is using? |
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| 06:43.20 | mhall | rking: And the kernel did the right thing. Because it's important to have data execution protection to prevent large classes of security bugs. |
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| 06:43.59 | rking | mhall: does linux not have an analog for solaris's PROT_EXEC flag? |
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| 06:44.24 | mhall | rking: An implementation may permit accesses other than those specified by prot; [MPR] however, if the Memory Protection option is supported, the implementation shall not permit a write to succeed where PROT_WRITE has not been set or shall not permit any access where PROT_NONE alone has been set. The implementation shall support at least the following values of prot: PROT_NONE, PROT_READ, PROT_WRITE, and the bitwise-inclusive OR of PROT_ |
| 06:44.32 | mhall | rking: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/mmap.html |
| 06:45.12 | dondelelcaro | larsie: sure, shouldn't be a problem. I've personally never done it, but assuming you can get the information on who is calling from the modem, it should be no big deal. |
| 06:45.18 | rking | mhall: hrm... right, that all maxes sense, so why was this only a problem on solaris? |
| 06:45.46 | mhall | rking: No it was only a problem on certain Linux systems that had processors with certain kinds of paging chips. |
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| 06:45.54 | mhall | rking: Debian on SPARC was what was affected. |
| 06:46.08 | mhall | rking: Note I specifically never said Solaris was involved. |
| 06:46.23 | rking | right, i assumed. =) |
| 06:46.58 | mhall | rking: It would probably happen the same way on Solaris provided they'd set that check up in their kernel paging code. |
| 06:47.09 | larsie | dondelelcaro: where could I locate such a program? |
| 06:47.27 | mhall | rking: That is the sort of error that would be largely cross-platform because it depends more on the HW than the SW. |
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| 06:47.51 | mhall | rking: I think Linux had just been a bit... lackadaisical about checking that flag before. |
| 06:48.31 | mhall | rking: So when they had a crackdown, X broke because they were working off the i386 behavior. The code would work great on i386 because that chip apparently does not support PROT_EXEC checks as well as SPARC. |
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| 06:48.59 | rking | mhall: ahhh |
| 06:49.43 | mhall | rking: So, yes, I will have to try -dbg and see what goes down. |
| 06:49.50 | rking | i386 is probably doing that at the request of some poor vendor that couldn't do some hack without it |
| 06:49.56 | mhall | rking: I would not be a bit surprised if they acted entirely differently. |
| 06:50.19 | rking | mhall: then there's your solution! just run the -dbg version all the time. =) |
| 06:50.24 | mhall | rking: What are you talking about? Intel would never compromise on something like that! Oh, wait, they would, wouldn't they? ;-) |
| 06:50.31 | mhall | rking: I think it takes many times the RAM. |
| 06:50.38 | mhall | rking: But then again, fuck it, I have 1GB. |
| 06:50.49 | dondelelcaro | mhall: it tkaes a bit more, but it's rarely noticeable |
| 06:50.52 | dondelelcaro | (unless you have no ram) |
| 06:51.10 | mhall | rking: But I meant more, the dbg version would lock up in a different fashion, rather than not lock up at all. ;-) |
| 06:51.34 | mhall | How can I get X to clean up after itself and not fuck the console if it won't respond to a signal 15 kill? |
| 06:51.42 | mhall | Or, can I make the console reset itself? |
| 06:51.51 | mhall | Now I am on SSH from a tertiary box. |
| 06:51.56 | dondelelcaro | mhall: just type reset |
| 06:52.08 | mhall | dondelelcaro: I thought reset was text only. |
| 06:52.26 | mhall | dondelelcaro: And if I'm on SSH, would I need to somehow say to reset a different other device? |
| 06:52.27 | dondelelcaro | mhall: no, it just ouputs the escape codes to reset the terminal as indicated in termcap |
| 06:52.35 | rking | mhall: hrmm... reset; echo <ctrl+v><esc>c; i think there's one more i do if either of those fail |
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| 06:53.09 | rking | mhall: you could potentially echo ^V<esc>c > /dev/pts/X |
| 06:53.13 | dondelelcaro | it's pretty straight forward |
| 06:53.29 | rking | mhall: maybe redirect reset > /dev/pts/X |
| 06:53.50 | mhall | Alright, but what if my graphics FB memory is foobarred? |
| 06:53.55 | mhall | Which is what I think it's doing. |
| 06:54.05 | mhall | How could I force my card to do a VGA reset? |
| 06:54.08 | defcon8 | morning people |
| 06:54.16 | dimir | morning. |
| 06:54.28 | mhall | I know how to do this in win, but not Linux. Ironic, as I hate Windows. |
| 06:54.33 | dondelelcaro | mhall: just switch vts |
| 06:54.42 | rking | mhall: good question... how do you do it in windows? |
| 06:54.51 | rking | mhall: ya dang windows-lubber. |
| 06:55.27 | mhall | rking: Well, it's sort of tricky to describe, but if you have a graphics card with hotkeys, you hotkey between two video modes. |
| 06:55.31 | dondelelcaro | (if you're remote, it shouldn't really matter) |
| 06:56.04 | mhall | dondelelcaro: Right, it's more of a question of how to avoid rebooting the box to fix the console every 30 min. so I can restart X and examine the bug more. |
| 06:56.11 | mhall | dondelelcaro: It's just getting really annoying. |
| 06:56.15 | rking | mhall: Alt+SysRq+R ? |
| 06:56.37 | mhall | rking: that's probably what I need |
| 06:56.47 | mhall | rking: I have that enabled and working actualy |
| 06:56.56 | mhall | rking: Because I did an S U B the other day |
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| 06:58.03 | mhall | rking: But generally, you can use that hacky trick to unscrew a corrupted display on Windows. |
| 06:58.20 | mhall | rking: Linux does not have a similar hotkeying available except when X is running. |
| 06:58.22 | dondelelcaro | mhall: you shouldn't need to munge with the box, just start up X |
| 06:58.34 | mhall | rking: And generally that's when you need it least! |
| 06:58.48 | mhall | dondelelcaro: But it only happens with a certain app going. |
| 06:59.03 | mhall | dondelelcaro: So I have to start the app and set it into the settings that piss off X |
| 06:59.22 | mhall | dondelelcaro: Since it relies on me loading the box to make system calls time out in the X scheduler |
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| 07:00.46 | jm_ | mhall: tried using textmode/savetextmode? |
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| 07:01.27 | mhall | Fucking Comcast. |
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| 07:01.49 | dondelelcaro | mhall: sure, so just set up an appropriate script to run the apt and do whatever needs to be done |
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| 07:02.27 | dondelelcaro | mhall: anyway, good luck with that... me is horizontal |
| 07:03.18 | jm_ | mhal;tried using textmode/savetextmode? |
| 07:03.20 | jm_ | doh |
| 07:03.46 | rking | jm_: HAANNh-haah </nelson> |
| 07:04.18 | Lafy | dimir: you still there? |
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| 07:06.45 | Lafy | can someone help me get winbindd working? |
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| 07:11.38 | larsie | dondelelcaro: You mentioned it prolly won't be a problem to do a RAS solution on my debian machine. What is the name of this solution (found nada on 'ras+debian' @ google.com). ? |
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| 07:13.13 | Jewbarki | how do I drop out of xwindows so I can install the nvidia driver? |
| 07:13.53 | Jewbarki | I've tried running a few commands that I've found in google and it keeps telling me that the x session is still in effect |
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| 07:15.15 | jm_ | jewb;stop the dm |
| 07:15.21 | Eonn_work | g'day all |
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| 07:15.37 | jm_ | damn, people are impatient/have lousy connections today |
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| 07:17.38 | dimir | lol true |
| 07:18.02 | dimir | Lafy: I'm somewhere here :-) |
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| 07:19.11 | Lafy | i formatted my w2k server after all my problems, i've got it so that the debian box can access the ports on the w2k box, and nothing else on the net can, but now i cant get samba to connect to the domain... |
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| 07:20.07 | dimir | Lafy: netbios traffic is reaching the win box? |
| 07:20.08 | Lafy | when i do net join -S MyServer -U Administrator it tells me "Can't contact LDAP server", but then it tells me "Joined Domain THEALLIANCECA" |
| 07:20.18 | Lafy | dimir: i'm not sure... how would i check? |
| 07:20.56 | dimir | Lafy: with tcpdump, you can see the ports it's sending packet's to |
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| 07:21.11 | Trace | Hello, can anybody tell me what "fdisk /mbr" mean? |
| 07:21.12 | Lafy | sorry |
| 07:21.16 | dimir | jm_: now I see even better what are you talking about |
| 07:21.17 | Lafy | my internet cuts out... i hate wireless |
| 07:21.18 | dimir | :-P |
| 07:21.25 | Lafy | anyway... |
| 07:21.34 | Lafy | how would i know if netbios traffic is reaching the domain? |
| 07:21.38 | dimir | travisat: format the master boot record |
| 07:21.40 | benley | Trace: it's a DOS command that reinstalls the default master boot record |
| 07:21.43 | dimir | trace that is |
| 07:22.02 | benley | Trace: i.e. replaces lilo or grub with the dos bootup bits |
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| 07:22.08 | Trace | benley, reinstall? |
| 07:22.12 | dimir | Lafy: with tcpdump, you can see the ports it's sending packet's to |
| 07:22.43 | Trace | benley: so, fdisk /mbr don't modify partition table? |
| 07:22.46 | benley | Trace: correct. |
| 07:22.54 | Lafy | dimir: tcpdump? |
| 07:23.02 | dimir | Lafy: run tcpdump on the debian box and watch what ports it is sending packets to when you execute 'net join' |
| 07:23.07 | dimir | Lafy: a-ha |
| 07:23.12 | Lafy | i dont have tcpdump |
| 07:23.13 | dimir | Lafy: never used it? |
| 07:23.18 | dimir | Lafy: apt-get it |
| 07:23.22 | Lafy | never used it, dont seem to have it... |
| 07:23.28 | dimir | the package has the same name |
| 07:23.41 | danja | anyone help with general breakage following apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 07:23.58 | Trace | benley, "fdisk /mbr" is just an dos command? Linux also have fdisk. |
| 07:24.06 | dimir | Lafy: play with it, get used to it, really really useful tool, beleave me :-) |
| 07:24.07 | benley | Trace: linux has an fdisk, but it is not the same fdisk. |
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| 07:24.31 | danja | I think I need to reinstall libs, but I don't know which... |
| 07:24.54 | Trace | Thx, So, fdisk /mbr in dos just reinstall first 446 bytes in MBR, am i right? |
| 07:25.02 | dimir | danja: do just an 'upgrade' |
| 07:25.23 | benley | Trace: yeah ... not sure on the number of bytes, but you probably looked that up. |
| 07:25.28 | dimir | Trace: 512 AFAIK |
| 07:25.54 | Trace | dimir: what does AFAI mean? |
| 07:26.11 | benley | asfarasIknow |
| 07:26.11 | rking | Trace: "as far as I [know]" |
| 07:26.36 | dimir | travisat: http://pclt.cis.yale.edu/pclt/BOOT/PARTITIO.HTM |
| 07:26.37 | dimir | :-P |
| 07:26.57 | dimir | ?afaik |
| 07:27.07 | Trace | rking: benley told me fdisk /mbr in dos don't modify partiton table, mbr is 512 bytes, and partiton table is 64 bytes. |
| 07:27.21 | dimir | !imnkatf |
| 07:27.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, imnkatf is I May Not Know All That Far |
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| 07:27.42 | Trace | so, if benley is right, dimer, it should be 446 bytes and with 2 bytes at the end. |
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| 07:28.15 | rking | Trace: yeah, fdisk /mbr has a totally different purpose from every other fdisk in the world - that /mbr is equivalent to linux's "lilo" or "grub" |
| 07:28.34 | dimir | from the link I gave you: The first 446 bytes of this record are a program that is to be executed. The rest of the record is a two byte header and four 16-byte table entries to define up to four partitions. |
| 07:28.44 | rking | Trace: you could fdisk /mbr all day long if you have a debian boot floppy to get back in, as far as i know. |
| 07:28.52 | Lafy | dimir: how do i use this? |
| 07:29.01 | danja | dimir: you mean apt-get upgrade? (apt's now grumbling - can't find stuff) |
| 07:29.18 | nkuttler | !tell danja about errors |
| 07:29.53 | Trace | rking: So, fdisk /mbr in dos or debian boot floppy actually means copy some image back to certain disk? |
| 07:30.08 | mkl1525 | Hi! When our apache tries to create more then 256 childs it quits with "[alert] (11)Resource temporarily unavailable: setuid: unable to change to uid: 33" 33 is www-data, we're using apache2-mpm-prefork 2.0.54-4 on a debian sarge box - has anyone ever experienced this behavior? Google wasn't really useful, showed only that it seemed to be a debian not an apache problem |
| 07:30.12 | dimir | danja: yes. Well, then run 'apt-get update' before it |
| 07:30.23 | d03boy | can someone remind me how to install a .deb file? is it using dpkg? |
| 07:30.43 | nkuttler | d03boy: yes |
| 07:30.48 | danja | have done. also netselect-apt. |
| 07:30.53 | dimir | Lafy: well, you can run it without args to see all the traffic |
| 07:31.10 | Lafy | yeah it shows me A LOT of ssh packets... (since i'm connected through ssh....) |
| 07:31.11 | Trace | if use floppy, the image is in floppy, but if run in dos, where is original image? |
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| 07:31.19 | Lafy | in fact i see nothing but ssh.... |
| 07:31.27 | dimir | Lafy: you have to run tcpdump on one session and then, from another, run 'net join' command and see where it is trying to connect to |
| 07:31.40 | Lafy | ok, and how do i filter out all the ssh packets? |
| 07:31.41 | dimir | Lafy: grep the ssh out |
| 07:31.48 | Lafy | grep doesn't seem to work... |
| 07:31.48 | rking | Trace: "format /mbr" is a dos/windows thing, and i think it just copies windows's opinion of the bootup record to the disk |
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| 07:32.14 | Trace | Thanks!! rking |
| 07:32.20 | saloxin_ | tcpdump -i bla0 ! oprt ssh |
| 07:32.25 | danja | nkuttler: apt-get dist-upgrade (unstable) resulted in mysqld segfault; Java crash |
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| 07:32.36 | saloxin_ | oprt== port |
| 07:32.36 | Lafy | i _HATE_ wireless |
| 07:32.42 | streuner | rking: fdisk /mbr 'repairs' the MBR - that's all |
| 07:32.43 | Lafy | aaaanyway... |
| 07:32.47 | rking | mysqld has /anything/ to do with Java? |
| 07:32.48 | danja | nkuttler: exact messages very, very long |
| 07:32.52 | Lafy | dimir: how do i "grep the ssh out"? |
| 07:32.53 | rking | streuner: right |
| 07:32.56 | nkuttler | danja: welcome to unstable |
| 07:33.02 | danja | rking: both dead |
| 07:33.08 | saloxin_ | Lafy: tcpdump -i eth? ! port ssh |
| 07:33.08 | nkuttler | danja: check the bts, /msg dpkg bts |
| 07:33.11 | rking | danja: rimshot! |
| 07:33.22 | nkuttler | danja: /msg dpkg paste |
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| 07:33.58 | Lafy | what are these 802.1d packets i'm getting every 2 seconds? |
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| 07:34.18 | streuner | Lafy: be more vague |
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| 07:34.34 | dimir | Lafy: tcpdump dst port ! ssh |
| 07:34.37 | Lafy | 02:48:32.119477 802.1d config 8000.00:02:fd:47:e7:c9.8019 root 8000.00:02:fd:47:e7:c9 pathcost 0 age 0 max 20 hello 2 fdelay 15 |
| 07:34.41 | danja | nkuttler: I'm irc'd on different machine - anything specific to look for? |
| 07:35.01 | streuner | Lafy: into console and even in irc-client too? |
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| 07:35.46 | Lafy | huh? |
| 07:35.50 | Lafy | i'm using mIRC |
| 07:36.03 | Lafy | oh, that was humour wasn't it? |
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| 07:36.09 | Lafy | i got it... a little late... |
| 07:36.20 | Lafy | that's funny... |
| 07:36.29 | Lafy | you called me vague... |
| 07:36.32 | Lafy | i showed you the packet |
| 07:36.39 | streuner | Lafy: do you get those output in your irc-client? |
| 07:36.42 | streuner | as well |
| 07:36.47 | Lafy | no? |
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| 07:37.19 | Lafy | how do i exclude 2 ports? |
| 07:38.01 | streuner | Don't be so sensible |
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| 07:38.35 | streuner | "be more vague" means ironically GIVE US MORE INFOS! |
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| 07:39.02 | Lafy | streuner: right, which is why i pasted the packet.... |
| 07:39.29 | streuner | Lafy: We haven't still an answer to the question |
| 07:39.36 | streuner | Lafy: do you get those output in your irc-client? |
| 07:39.41 | streuner | as well |
| 07:39.43 | Lafy | no |
| 07:39.48 | Lafy | how many times are you going to ask that? |
| 07:39.59 | Lafy | 02:48:32.119477 802.1d config 8000.00:02:fd:47:e7:c9.8019 root 8000.00:02:fd:47:e7:c9 pathcost 0 age 0 max 20 hello 2 fdelay 15 |
| 07:40.01 | Lafy | ... |
| 07:40.04 | streuner | Lafy: <Lafy> no? |
| 07:40.05 | msch_ | i won't ask that ;) |
| 07:40.27 | Lafy | are you just trying to be difficult? |
| 07:41.03 | msch_ | anybody out there ever had a make modules just not do anything at all? |
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| 07:41.18 | streuner | *PLONK* |
| 07:41.48 | jm_ | msch_: yes, people that disable modularity in kernel :P |
| 07:42.04 | dimir | Lafy: you can't exclude 2 ports, but you can use 'portrange'. Check the tcpdump man page, please. |
| 07:42.11 | msch_ | ha, good answer |
| 07:42.22 | fatal_ | fuck.... After upgrading hardware to Asus A8N-SLI on my i386 Sarge install the machine goes bezerk like every 2 weeks..... googling for "oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2" it seems like others has been hitting the same problem when running linux 2.6.8.... has anyone here encountered the same thing and knows a solution/workaround? (I guess the problem is solved in newer 2.6 kernels, but I'd like to avoid running unofficial kernels if I can...) |
| 07:42.24 | Lafy | why am i using tcpdump in the first place? |
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| 07:42.40 | msch_ | jm, in all seriousness, i killed a make modules_install with a ctrl c yesterday |
| 07:42.52 | msch_ | and now i can't get anything to make in my /usr/src/linux |
| 07:43.03 | jm_ | msch_: shouldn't be a problem |
| 07:43.04 | msch_ | not make menuconfig, not make clean, not anything |
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| 07:43.09 | dimir | Lafy: to see what ports the Debian box is connecting to when you execute 'net join' command, FFS. |
| 07:43.25 | msch_ | i've blown away the dir, redownloaded 2.6.12.4 |
| 07:43.27 | Lafy | it's connecting to ldap and microsoft-ds |
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| 07:43.34 | msch_ | and still nothing |
| 07:43.37 | fatal_ | This is a snippet from /var/log/messages ... same thing over and over in the log.. http://gamezone.fjortis.info/~gem/oom-messages.txt |
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| 07:43.42 | msch_ | i can make everywhere else |
| 07:44.03 | dimir | Lafy: bingo, you will need port 445 to be open in addition (microsoft-ds) |
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| 07:44.19 | rking | fatal_: "oom" usually stands for "out-of-memory" |
| 07:44.23 | msch_ | jm_: any ideas? |
| 07:44.45 | jm_ | msch_: what exactly happens? |
| 07:44.47 | fatal_ | rking: yeah... but whats leaking? I've got plenty of ram... |
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| 07:44.58 | Lafy | uh... dimir: i opened every port... |
| 07:45.00 | rking | fatal_: top it up (M) |
| 07:45.08 | msch_ | jm_: quite literally nothing |
| 07:45.16 | d0ugie | why are there updates for the whois client? I mean, it seems to be a relatively simple program ... could there possibly be any holes or performance enhancement discoveries at this point? |
| 07:45.18 | msch_ | jm_: i type make menuconfig |
| 07:45.19 | dimir | Lafy: and you still cannot connect? |
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| 07:45.20 | Lafy | all traffic from my debian box to my router is forwarded to the w2k box... |
| 07:45.25 | Lafy | and it still cannot connect... |
| 07:45.34 | msch_ | jm_: and it just sits there, top shows nothing, cpu does nothign |
| 07:45.40 | fatal_ | rking: I'd expect the machine to recover after the oom killer has triggered and freed up ram... but it doesn't.... just keeps on triggering and I can barely reboot the machine (without using the power button). |
| 07:45.57 | dimir | Lafy: can you ping the win box? |
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| 07:46.13 | jm_ | msch_: try make -d menuconfig to see what is going on |
| 07:46.14 | Lafy | yes |
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| 07:46.26 | msch_ | jm_: ps, this is my first irc session, so if i'm doing something totally wrong or annoying, just let me know |
| 07:46.33 | greentrace | Trace:hello |
| 07:46.35 | floppyears | hi |
| 07:46.42 | stew | d0ugie: http://changelogs.debian.org/whois |
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| 07:46.53 | jm_ | msch_: it's OK, just don't paste here (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 07:46.56 | floppyears | does anybody here use the 2.6.12.4 kernel ? I'm having some problems with audio and was wondering if anyone could help me. |
| 07:46.57 | rking | fatal_: yeah, sometimes OOM type stuff sucks a lot. at work we have a production server that struggled with the same kind of problem - we couldn't even ssh into the box while it was choking its memory away |
| 07:47.08 | dimir | Lafy: can you telnet to it's port 445 for example? |
| 07:47.25 | liraz | I am unable to extract hebrew files from an archive, they all fail. I'm guessing this has everything to do with hebrew support with in the terminal. Any ideas? |
| 07:47.26 | floppyears | sound works fine except when I'm watching tv from my tuner card :( |
| 07:47.45 | SimonRaven | liraz: utf8 support helps |
| 07:47.49 | Lafy | dimir: yes i can telnet to 445 |
| 07:48.17 | rking | liraz: i can't imagine what the terminal thinks having anything to do with an archive extraction failing |
| 07:48.18 | msch_ | jm_: ok cool, thanks for the help...now it pukes some output and stops after " Must remake target `scripts_basic'. |
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| 07:48.30 | liraz | rking, well most apps are command based =) |
| 07:48.38 | liraz | file-roller specifically |
| 07:48.43 | d0ugie | what's up with files appended with a ~? are they backups of a remote editing session that got killed before the file was saved? |
| 07:48.58 | rking | liraz: right, but you can do: tar xvzf tenach.tgz > /dev/null and no output will ever be seen, although the files should extract |
| 07:49.03 | liraz | SimonRaven, helps? so I will have to set my terminal to utf-8? |
| 07:49.19 | liraz | rking, really? |
| 07:49.22 | liraz | will try |
| 07:49.38 | rking | liraz: well, my point is that it's probably failing for some totally other reason |
| 07:49.45 | SimonRaven | um, why not just leave off the v... |
| 07:49.52 | msch_ | jm_: also, right after the make there are some Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children. |
| 07:50.08 | stew | d0ugie: generally yes |
| 07:50.12 | liraz | well another problem is that lots of these files(archive names) are in hebrew too |
| 07:50.14 | rking | SimonRaven: sorry, typed it out of habit |
| 07:50.32 | rking | liraz: do you know if they're UTF-8 or some crappy other encoding? |
| 07:50.34 | SimonRaven | utf console will help |
| 07:50.46 | SimonRaven | knowing that will too |
| 07:50.51 | SimonRaven | er, utf8* |
| 07:50.52 | jm_ | msch_: tried make mrproper? keep in mind this will delete everything you configured/built |
| 07:51.15 | SimonRaven | ok, back to setting this up |
| 07:51.18 | liraz | rking, /dev/null at the end doesn't work. |
| 07:51.22 | liraz | rking, not sure :/ |
| 07:51.30 | rking | liraz: it's worth sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales; and enable he.IL-UTF-8 |
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| 07:52.08 | msch_ | jm_: that's cool, already blew everything away... make -d mrproper just spits about 10 Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children. |
| 07:52.28 | jm_ | msch_: yeah that's normal, make will fork a lot usually |
| 07:52.57 | msch_ | jm_: but then it just sits there...same as before |
| 07:53.57 | dimir | Lafy: can you check event log or something on win box to see what's the reason of not allowing debian box to join the domain? |
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| 07:54.55 | liraz | when trying 'enable he.IL-UTF-8' I receive: bash: enable: he.IL-UTF-8: not a shell builtin |
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| 07:55.08 | dimir | lol |
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| 07:55.32 | dimir | liraz: during the locales reconfiguration select the he.IL-UTF-8 |
| 07:55.42 | rocky23_ | in kde im trying to install my windows shared printer, ive downloaded the driver and its on the printer test section and when i click test it says "unable to create temporary printer" why would this ? |
| 07:55.54 | dimir | liraz: enable (in this case) was not a cups command nor bash built-in :-) |
| 07:56.19 | msch_ | jm_: still sitting, it's like nothing happens, i've never seen anything like it |
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| 07:57.18 | Valen | #ipcop |
| 07:57.27 | Valen | sorry |
| 07:57.35 | Valen | meant to have a /j infront of that |
| 07:57.35 | Lafy | dimir: "The session setup from the computer DELL02 failed to authenticate. The name of the account references in the security database is DELL02$. The following error occured: Access is denied." |
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| 07:58.46 | Lafy | why does it add a $ to the computer name? |
| 07:58.47 | dimir | Lafy: hmm, maybe you should delete it (the computer) from AD and add again, or something |
| 07:58.57 | dimir | Lafy: ask Bill |
| 07:58.58 | dimir | :-P |
| 07:59.02 | jm_ | msch_: yes, but what command does it run? |
| 07:59.13 | Lafy | ... |
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| 07:59.31 | msch_ | jm_: not sure what you mean |
| 07:59.44 | rocky23_ | lafy: you got shared win2k printers working in linux ? |
| 07:59.52 | Lafy | no idea |
| 07:59.53 | msch_ | jm_: i get a Reading makefile `/usr/src/linux-2.6.12.4/arch/i386/Makefile' (search path) (no ~ expansion)... |
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| 08:00.16 | msch_ | jm_: followed by 7 Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children. |
| 08:00.58 | RichiH | and a new kernel to boot |
| 08:01.25 | jm_ | msch_: surely it mentiones the programs that starts too |
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| 08:02.44 | Lafy | dimir: the output from net join is : |
| 08:02.45 | Lafy | [2005/08/10 03:15:54, 0] utils/net_ads.c:ads_startup(183) |
| 08:02.45 | Lafy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.45 | Lafy | Joined domain THEALLIANCECA. |
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| 08:02.52 | _blue | anyone here use pork as an AOL AIM client/? |
| 08:03.10 | Lafy | 4 lines is a flood these days? |
| 08:03.13 | dimir | Lafy: how do you run 'net join' exaclty |
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| 08:03.28 | Lafy | net join -S dell01 -U Administrator |
| 08:03.32 | liraz | SInce i'm mucking around with all this encoding and have no idea what I'm doing, i've tried to search for a tutorial explaining what this encoding stuff is but actually cant find anything. WHat would I search for? linux locales tutorial? charset encoding? |
| 08:03.32 | Lafy | then i type my pass when it asks |
| 08:03.44 | RichiH | Lafy: anything above 3 lines has been since at least 2000 |
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| 08:04.10 | Lafy | well it was only 3 lines pasted... |
| 08:04.12 | msch_ | jm_: not that i can see, i don't want to spew it all over here...but i get a make -d mrproper; GNU Make 3.80; Copyright blah blah; Reading makefiles...; Reading makefile `Makefile'...; some sigchlds; Reading makefile line from before; some more sigchlds |
| 08:04.17 | Lafy | but i pasted them right after saying something... |
| 08:04.22 | dimir | Lafy: try 'net ads join -S dell01 -U Administrator' |
| 08:04.33 | msch_ | jm_: and that's it, it's really like it's not doing anything |
| 08:04.49 | jm_ | msch_: /msg dpkg paste and paste it on that site |
| 08:05.01 | RichiH | oi jm_ |
| 08:05.10 | jm_ | RichiH: heya |
| 08:05.13 | Lafy | dimir: if i do net ads join it fails, if i do net rpc join it succeeds... |
| 08:05.23 | dimir | Lafy: then do rpc |
| 08:05.30 | Lafy | yeah i did |
| 08:05.38 | RichiH | jm_: how's you? |
| 08:05.40 | Lafy | so i've joined the domain.... |
| 08:05.47 | dimir | good for you |
| 08:05.49 | Lafy | wbinfo -t should work now, right? |
| 08:05.57 | msch_ | jm_: hrm, don't seem to have that down |
| 08:06.04 | dimir | Lafy: beats me |
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| 08:06.20 | msch_ | jm_: sorry for being ignorant, i'm just really new to this irc business |
| 08:07.38 | jm_ | msch_: type "/msg dpkg paste" in your IRC client and read what it tells you |
| 08:07.51 | zuen | i'm using dhcp on this debian machine. how do i stop dhcp from updating /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 08:07.59 | jm_ | RichiH: quite good, boss is on vacation and there's not too much work substituting him ;) |
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| 08:10.26 | msch_ | jm_: okay: it says it's at http://channels.debian.net/paste/459 |
| 08:11.06 | jm_ | msch_: you can tell it that this is for #debian and the bot will inform us about it ;) |
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| 08:11.39 | jm_ | msch_: doh, let me see how to run it properly |
| 08:12.28 | jm_ | msch_: ahh make -dd, or just run make -n first and I'll compare it to 2.6.12.3 |
| 08:12.38 | jm_ | well make -n menuconfig, you should do the same for -d |
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| 08:12.51 | msch_ | jm_: cool; when i try the only channels it lists are #debian-bots, #opencity, #overflow, #r, and #sourceforge, i tried #debian-bots, is that wrong? |
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| 08:13.01 | jm_ | hmm make -d spews a lot of crap here |
| 08:13.15 | jm_ | msch_: no, it just means we won't see the notification |
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| 08:13.41 | msch_ | jm_: ahhh, how do i make it so you see the announcement? |
| 08:13.56 | jm_ | msch_: just tell it to mention it in #debian |
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| 08:14.45 | msch_ | jm_: make -n menuconfig gives : make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=scripts/basic and then just sits |
| 08:14.56 | jm_ | msch_: damn, I see you can't do that, well the easiest is to just give me the URL like you did earlier |
| 08:15.12 | msch_ | jm_: cool, i thought i was crazy ;) |
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| 08:16.38 | jm_ | msch_: hmm you sure you don't have some make script in the way? |
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| 08:17.07 | kl1 | any one knows how can i see the computers around me on terminal? |
| 08:17.09 | coywolf | how to get the date of 1123662321? this doesn't work: date -d 1123662321 +%s :( |
| 08:17.41 | jm_ | coywolf: "info coreutils date" and read |
| 08:17.52 | jm_ | it's in examples |
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| 08:18.14 | coywolf | jm_, what part? |
| 08:18.21 | jm_ | coywolf: see above |
| 08:18.28 | jm_ | darn pinfo doesn't like that syntax |
| 08:18.32 | coywolf | jm_, what part in it? |
| 08:18.51 | technos | kl1: Well, one easy way is to ping your broadcast address. Or if they're windows machines, use smbclient to list those with services. Or install a port scanner, and scan the subnet. |
| 08:18.54 | msch_ | jm_: positive, the directory is new, freshly unpacked from source |
| 08:19.01 | msch_ | jm_: i've done that twice now |
| 08:19.31 | jm_ | msch_: no I mean type 'which make' or 'type make' |
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| 08:20.05 | jm_ | msch_: did you delete the old dir before unpacking it? |
| 08:20.42 | msch_ | jm_: which make returns: /usr/bin/make; yes, i rm -rf the dir before unpacking |
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| 08:21.21 | RichiH | jm_: good to hear that :) |
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| 08:21.30 | RichiH | jm_: yah, my usual lag.. ;) |
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| 08:21.37 | RichiH | real life and other bothers :p |
| 08:21.50 | jm_ | RichiH: hehe |
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| 08:22.24 | technos | Goddamnit.. |
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| 08:22.47 | kl1 | technos the comand to scan the sub net is nmap local ip? |
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| 08:22.51 | jm_ | msch_: that looks fine, I really have no idea what is wrong with it, -n in particular should work just fine since it only prints stuff |
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| 08:23.45 | technos | Spent a day down in Oregon.. Fought with a dialup modem for hours to check my email, because cable and dsl are nil out there in the boonies of Hermiston... Now I find out there's a freaking open 802.11 network blanketing the county. |
| 08:23.55 | msch_ | jm_: yeah, i agree, everything seems fine, the only anomoly was ctrl-c the build, but i've done that many times, i appreciate the help |
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| 08:24.00 | msch_ | but damn am i stuck |
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| 08:25.26 | jm_ | msch_: yeah that shouldn't affect it, make -dd and strace should be able to pinpoint the problem |
| 08:25.29 | fooz | technos, you should get a cell phone and use that to get online |
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| 08:27.14 | technos | fooz: I have one, but it's GPRS and untetherable. I'll be swapping it for an EDGE/bluetooth tetherable in a couple weeks though. |
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| 08:27.34 | fooz | technos, which? |
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| 08:29.26 | msch_ | jm_: strace make -dd menuconfig hangs in the middle of a read(4, |
| 08:29.35 | msch_ | jm_: any suggestions? |
| 08:29.53 | jm_ | msch_: don't use -dd with strace ;) |
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| 08:30.12 | jm_ | msch_: run strace -o /tmp/strace.out -s 512 -f make menuconfig and then check the file it creates |
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| 08:30.56 | technos | fooz: Looking at the Nokia 6x30's. |
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| 08:31.09 | fooz | i want a treo 650 |
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| 08:31.51 | technos | fooz: I don't. Hell no. Cingular has nothing but problems with them, and I'm conscripted to them for service, soooo. |
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| 08:32.25 | fooz | i haven't heard of anything wrong with em |
| 08:33.06 | Lafy | what package would ldap.h be in? |
| 08:33.20 | technos | fooz: I'll just tether whatever I get to my existing Palm. Bluetooth on them is a joke. Firmware updates required to resemble normal functionality? Bleh. |
| 08:33.35 | pusling | Lafy: apt-file search ldap.h |
| 08:33.54 | Lafy | i dont have apt-file... |
| 08:34.04 | fooz | technos, i just got a lifedrive. it's part of the reason why i want a treo |
| 08:34.05 | Lafy | installing... |
| 08:34.10 | pusling | Lafy: apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update |
| 08:34.12 | fooz | need a replacement for my T610 |
| 08:34.23 | msch_ | jm_: same thing: just sits in the middle of a read(3, |
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| 08:35.42 | pusling | Lafy: libldap2-dev: usr/include/ldap.h |
| 08:35.45 | technos | fooz: The T610 isn't a bad unit. What doesn't it do that you need? |
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| 08:36.02 | fooz | technos, intelligence |
| 08:36.26 | jm_ | msch_: what is fd 3? |
| 08:36.34 | Lafy | thanks pusling |
| 08:36.49 | fooz | technos, tried Series 60 (one N-Gage, one N-Gage QD) the OS was OK but the API was unintelligible and the phones extremely flaky.. both rebooted or crashed many times per day |
| 08:37.09 | msch_ | jm_: oh crap... over my head again, what's fd? |
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| 08:38.13 | kzm | Anybody know Gnuplot? Can I use it (or something else) to produce a "live" real-time graph from stdin? |
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| 08:38.35 | jm_ | msch_: file descriptor look for an open returning 3 (before the read that hangs obviously) |
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| 08:38.46 | jm_ | kzm: of course |
| 08:38.57 | fooz | technos, T610 is nice, stable and usable but doesn't do much.. really slow UI, no chance of me putting apps on it, crippled java, weak contacts/addressbook support |
| 08:39.04 | technos | fooz: The ngage are flaky. Buddy has a QD, it hard locks more often than a P3 with a dead cooling fan. The Symbian 60 phones I've used weren't all that bad, no reboot problems. I'll agree that programming for them is a pain, but hey, at least you can get a dev kit without jumping through the the nda hurdles. |
| 08:39.22 | AlexW | is it possible to get colored ssh |
| 08:39.26 | kzm | jm_, could I bother you for a slight elucidation? |
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| 08:39.53 | jm_ | kzm: no, I don't use gnuplot, I did some graphs with ploticus instead |
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| 08:40.03 | coywolf | how to get the date of 1123662321? this doesn't work: date -d 1123662321 +%s :( |
| 08:40.20 | fooz | technos, I work at Fry's, so there's lots of geeks around.. seems like 1 in 5 employees has a Treo.. and maybe 1 in 10 customers |
| 08:40.33 | technos | fooz: Ah, so you want overlap. I don't. I like single purpose devices. A cell phone should be capable of making phone calls and pushing data for me. Anything more than that, I already have a damn pda. :) |
| 08:40.44 | Oliver1 | Does Debian have some Graphical System Manager , like SuSE , Mandriva ?? |
| 08:40.49 | fooz | technos, well i'm not going to stop carrying my Lifedrive :) |
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| 08:41.18 | kzm | I want a window showing my CPU temp (I have some problems with sudden shutdowns). I can get the temp as a stream of ints by polling /proc/, but how do I plot them in real time? |
| 08:41.34 | dimir | coywolf: date +"%d%m%Y-%H%M%S" or something, depends what you need |
| 08:41.40 | fooz | technos, but if you want a nokia series 60 phone you're already carrying two PDAs, almost |
| 08:41.56 | jm_ | kzm: use munin instead |
| 08:42.04 | fooz | it's just a cripply one.. why not go all the way? |
| 08:42.33 | dimir | Oliver1: aptitude |
| 08:42.52 | jm_ | kzm: alternatively, just grab the values and plot it from the file, plocitucs can do this and AFAIK gnuplot too |
| 08:42.53 | coywolf | dimir, i have the second: 1123662321? how to get the date? dimir |
| 08:42.58 | groton | anyone could help on how to install the documentation of GLX on the kdevelop3? |
| 08:43.05 | liable | Oliver1: not really. |
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| 08:43.22 | fooz | coywolf, Wed Aug 10 10:25:21 2005 CEST |
| 08:43.25 | liable | Oliver1: but you can get different tools for different stuff. |
| 08:43.37 | kzm | jm_, I'm apt-getting munin now, and will take a look at it. |
| 08:43.40 | coywolf | fooz, how did you get that? |
| 08:43.40 | kzm | thanks. |
| 08:43.53 | fooz | coywolf, a MUD |
| 08:43.57 | jm_ | kzm: munin runs from cron, so its granularity is 1 minute |
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| 08:44.21 | coywolf | fooz, ? |
| 08:44.39 | fooz | coywolf, a game did it for me. |
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| 08:45.31 | jm_ | he still didn't read info page for date ... |
| 08:46.02 | fooz | i don't know how to do it with date |
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| 08:47.33 | fooz | it has really weak info documentation |
| 08:47.47 | jm_ | it has good info docs |
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| 08:48.37 | fooz | I typed 'info coreutils date' as it said in the manpage |
| 08:49.15 | fooz | i hate texinfo.. such a pain |
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| 08:52.31 | jm_ | yeah and /usr/bin/info is a pain too, although it should be easier to read with emacs, I seem to recall you're emacs user |
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| 08:52.52 | fooz | technos, i did ask a t-mobile salesman about the unstable ngages, and he said they shouldn't do that.. but he also said his 6600 did the same thing.. and had to return it for a new one |
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| 08:54.44 | Ecligprs | o.O |
| 08:55.05 | Ecligprs | dpkg-reconfigure updated my clock and made my screen blank for like 10secs |
| 08:55.06 | Ecligprs | funny |
| 08:57.57 | liable | !test |
| 08:57.57 | dpkg | No, liable, you're not online any more. |
| 08:58.04 | liable | didnt think so. |
| 08:58.31 | RichiH | liable: it's all the static irssi produces that makes one think one could be online, sometimes |
| 08:58.43 | Nigel | hey RichiH |
| 08:59.02 | liable | heh |
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| 08:59.32 | msch_ | jm_: hey, back again on that kernel compile problem, the fd read is on /dev/null ?? |
| 09:00.57 | msch_ | jm_: from strace: open("/dev/null", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3; fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0666, st_rdev=makedev(2, 2), ...}) = 0; read(3, ; (hanging there) |
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| 09:02.56 | jm_ | msch_: hmm might make sense to compare the output to a working example |
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| 09:05.12 | msch_ | jm_: i hear that... care to paste me one? i can build anything but a working kernel apparently :) |
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| 09:07.13 | rocky23_ | m trying to get a printer which is shared on w2k working on kde, under control center what do i select, cups or lrp/lprng print system or what? to get it working |
| 09:07.41 | msch_ | rocky23_: i use cups |
| 09:07.44 | sep | rocky23_, i use cups |
| 09:07.56 | msch_ | sep: ! |
| 09:07.56 | sep | rocky23_, what you need to ask yourself is... what do you use |
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| 09:08.03 | rocky23_ | msch: after i select cups smb option is greyed out |
| 09:08.15 | jm_ | msch_: it's 33000+ lines |
| 09:08.27 | sep | rocky23_, and you have installed samba-client ? |
| 09:08.28 | liable_ | fuck, i just dropped my thinkpad, the cd tray flew out, and now its bent :( |
| 09:08.29 | dimir | rocky23_: yes, select the smb and give it uri to your printer share |
| 09:08.49 | dimir | rocky23_: you might need to join the domain first |
| 09:09.02 | shangxd | right |
| 09:09.04 | msch_ | jm_: holy fuck... and after i spent all afternoon defending linux against any notions of "winrot" type behavior |
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| 09:09.30 | sep | msch_, why you need to compile kernel anyway ? |
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| 09:10.00 | rocky23_ | dimir: yes but that option is greyed out like i said lol |
| 09:10.07 | msch_ | sep: well, i need to compile iso8859-1 support in so i can mount my usb camera |
| 09:10.26 | liable | hmm, time to break out the little hammer.. |
| 09:10.27 | Eonn_work | rocky: do you have samba configured and running? |
| 09:10.45 | jm_ | msch_: how big is yours? |
| 09:10.49 | rocky23_ | Eonn_work: to my knowledge :) |
| 09:10.57 | jm_ | msch_: Debian kernels should have that enabled |
| 09:10.58 | msch_ | sep: i tried to build the module, ctrl-c to get our of that, and haven't been able to compile anything in kernel source tree since then |
| 09:11.01 | sep | rocky23_, and you ahve joined the domain (if you run a domain that it) |
| 09:11.10 | rocky23_ | sep: i have that bit working :) |
| 09:11.15 | dimir | rocky23_: oh, out, too bad :-) |
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| 09:11.50 | rocky23_ | Eonn_work: its the smbclient which creates the smb backend tho? and i installed that |
| 09:12.05 | dimir | rocky23_: well, try to configure cups directly, start up cupsys and go to the browser http://localhost:631 |
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| 09:12.25 | Eonn_work | what do you see when you type #testparm? |
| 09:12.28 | sep | rocky23_, installing samba-client should pull in everything you need |
| 09:12.33 | dimir | rocky23_: then go to printers, login with you root account, and add one |
| 09:12.35 | msch_ | got a custom kernel from before...ugh |
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| 09:12.39 | Oliver1 | People, I want to download Debian and I neeed to now, does it have some tools for installing .deb packages, I mean , when I want to install some program which need more stuff(dependeces). Example : I select OPEN OFFICE and some package manager select automaticly dependeces whic I nead to install. ? |
| 09:13.05 | Eonn_work | Oliver1 - dpkg -i <package.deb> |
| 09:13.10 | sep | Oliver1, you type aptitude update && aptitude install openoffice.org |
| 09:13.17 | msch_ | Oliver1: it's called apt, and it is the god of package management |
| 09:13.41 | Oliver1 | You mean nam of that package manager is APTITUDE ? |
| 09:13.47 | rocky23_ | dimir: when i do that it asks to select a device and smb isnt tere |
| 09:13.51 | Eonn_work | Oliver: yes |
| 09:13.59 | Oliver1 | Thanks a lot ! |
| 09:14.01 | dimir | Oliver1: Debian package manager handles the dependencies in one of the most effective ways, go for it |
| 09:14.15 | Eonn_work | Oliver: simply apt-get nameofpackage |
| 09:14.22 | Oliver1 | Oh, tomorrow I am starting with deb download |
| 09:14.22 | msch_ | jm_: my strace.out only get's 3043 |
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| 09:14.30 | msch_ | jm_: to your 33000 |
| 09:14.46 | Eonn_work | Oliver: or if you dont know the name: apt-cache search <partofname> |
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| 09:15.05 | SimonRaven | apt-get install |
| 09:15.17 | Eonn_work | Thats my total debian knowlege in two lines...there ive said it |
| 09:15.35 | rocky23_ | sep: yes but when i go to page, and put in url underl ocation it asks me to select device |
| 09:15.59 | rocky23_ | sep: is it a lpd/lpr host or printer ? |
| 09:16.10 | msch_ | Eonn_work: the nice thing is that that's about all you need to know |
| 09:16.23 | dimir | rocky23_: what? Select "Manage Printers"->"Add Printer" (give root creds)->give name, location(ip)->Windows printer (at the bottom) and so forth |
| 09:16.56 | Eonn_work | msch: yeah have to say, i've swapped from fedora to Debian and have been impressed with the simplicity of package managing |
| 09:17.08 | rocky23_ | dimir: i add printer, insert root pw. then it goes location, i put that in then it says "device for kyocera" appsocket or internet printing http or ipp or ldp/lrp ot parallel port or usb |
| 09:17.33 | sep | Eonn_work, you kidding, i switched from redhat/fedora and apt-get and aptitude was like salvation !! |
| 09:17.40 | msch_ | Eonn_work: yeah man, rpm makes me want to kill myself...we run some redhate enterprise boxes at work and i just hate them |
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| 09:18.11 | sep | Eonn_work, i never had problems that was not my own fault anymore. on redhat i frequently had problems i could not blame myself for |
| 09:18.13 | jm_ | msch_: what's the last exec you see? |
| 09:18.17 | Eonn_work | sep: thats what im saying - aptitude is great |
| 09:18.32 | dimir | rocky23_: at the bottom! |
| 09:18.37 | sep | Eonn_work, argh i read that as not been inmpressed.. sorry |
| 09:18.44 | msch_ | rocky23_: check this out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27736 |
| 09:18.46 | rocky23_ | dimir: bottom ? :) |
| 09:18.49 | dimir | rocky23_: there is a "windows smb printer" selection |
| 09:18.52 | dimir | damnit |
| 09:19.10 | dimir | "Windows printer via Samba" |
| 09:19.10 | rocky23_ | dimir: not on mine |
| 09:19.14 | sep | rocky23_, sounds like your samba install is incompleate |
| 09:19.14 | Eonn_work | sep: nah i have been blown away with the level of debian community support and package management - definately two compelling reasons to go Deb |
| 09:19.21 | dimir | the last one from the drop-down box |
| 09:19.21 | rocky23_ | thats not on there for me, this is the problem |
| 09:19.21 | sep | rocky23_, have you installed samba-client ? |
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| 09:19.26 | rocky23_ | sep: yes |
| 09:19.33 | sep | rocky23_, and your in the domain ? |
| 09:19.43 | sep | rocky23_, what release is it sarge ? |
| 09:19.49 | rocky23_ | sep: yes i followed "http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3487081 |
| 09:19.49 | rocky23_ | " for that |
| 09:19.54 | rocky23_ | sep: yes |
| 09:19.57 | Eonn_work | rocky23: can you see the share when you browse via konqueror? |
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| 09:20.26 | msch_ | jm_: execve("/bin/cat", ["cat", "/dev/null"], [/* 47 vars */]) = 0 |
| 09:20.30 | Eonn_work | rocky: in the address bar: //workgroup/ |
| 09:20.39 | msch_ | jm_: hrm, /dev/null again |
| 09:21.13 | sep | rocky23_, and you have installed all these ??? cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd, foomatic-db |
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| 09:21.33 | rocky23_ | Eonn_work: it says file or folder doesnt exist when i just put in domain name ? |
| 09:21.52 | jm_ | msch_: wtf |
| 09:21.57 | rocky23_ | sep: not the bsd so it seems :) |
| 09:22.17 | sep | rocky23_, grab that too and restart cupsys and try again |
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| 09:22.19 | jm_ | msch_: I have this on line 2656 |
| 09:22.35 | msch_ | jm_: holy fuck jm, figured it out |
| 09:22.56 | msch_ | jm_: /dev/null has the wrong major/minor |
| 09:23.14 | rocky23_ | sep: ok just installing cuposmatic-ppd as well :) man why odesnt it install all of them from just supsys |
| 09:23.16 | msch_ | jm_: you're a god for helping me work through this |
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| 09:23.30 | Eonn_work | rocky: have you added a samba user |
| 09:23.31 | sep | rocky23_, so you can install just what you need, |
| 09:23.40 | jm_ | msch_: haha how stupid, should be obvious from the stat you pasted earlier but I didn't think this would be wrong ;) |
| 09:23.41 | sep | rocky23_, and not what someone else thinks you might need |
| 09:23.58 | rocky23_ | sep: but u need all this for normal printing ? or just windows printing |
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| 09:24.14 | jm_ | msch_: was it char or block 2,2? |
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| 09:24.23 | incorrect | are there alternatives to swatch? |
| 09:24.28 | msch_ | jm_: i guess man, i've been staring at this for the better part of 3 hours now... obvious! |
| 09:24.45 | Eonn_work | rocky: most people will buy a standalone print server for approximately $100, makes setting up printers over a network much easier |
| 09:24.57 | msch_ | jm_: char 2,2 |
| 09:24.58 | sep | rocky23_, it provides the bsd style print commands wraped into cups style |
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| 09:25.10 | rocky23_ | sep: bsd is what windows uses is it ? |
| 09:25.15 | sep | rocky23_, that you dont need in a homogenus enviorment |
| 09:25.23 | sep | rocky23_, who knows what windows needs |
| 09:25.33 | rocky23_ | sep: oh well lets see then after all this :) |
| 09:25.41 | sep | rocky23_, i just read the docs and it's recomended |
| 09:25.52 | msch_ | sep: windows needs black voodoo magic and ritual sacrifice |
| 09:26.08 | msch_ | rocky23_: i've def had this set up before many times |
| 09:26.23 | jm_ | msch_: pty stuff |
| 09:26.24 | rocky23_ | sep: i can now see the smb backend :) |
| 09:26.29 | sep | rocky23_, printing to windows shares are usualy easy |
| 09:26.34 | jm_ | msch_: the question is what has changed this |
| 09:26.40 | msch_ | rocky23_: my advice is to follow that link i pasted and use it as a guideline to editing the config files |
| 09:26.43 | rocky23_ | sep: i just obviously didnt have the right package to have this smb backend |
| 09:26.49 | sep | rocky23_, obviouslt |
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| 09:27.19 | msch_ | rocky23_: i find it much easier than using the gui, i know that's counterintuitive, but worth a shot if you're stuck here? |
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| 09:27.40 | Eonn_work | rocky: have you tried using SWAT then? |
| 09:27.50 | rocky23_ | sep: the damn kyocera doesnt show up but the epson does grrr. ill see if the epson works as atleast thats something |
| 09:27.53 | rocky23_ | Eonn_work: swat ? |
| 09:27.56 | msch_ | jm_: i agree, i'm checking logs and things now, trying to find out if i did something stupid totally hammered the other night |
| 09:28.00 | sep | rocky23_, now you can install your printer using whatever method you please. kde printer tool or the localhost:631 |
| 09:28.01 | Eonn_work | rocky: a front end for samba |
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| 09:28.07 | zimnyx | i got soundcard detection problem. on 2.6.8 it was detected fine, but on 2.6.12 (same config) it;s not detected. when i modprobe my_snd_driver, i only get message: "PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:0d.0 # PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:0f.0". any ideas? |
| 09:28.13 | jm_ | msch_: hehe |
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| 09:28.26 | jm_ | zimnyx: that looks OK |
| 09:28.40 | Eonn_work | rocky: i think it installs itself be default with debian sarge... however i could be wrong |
| 09:29.00 | zimnyx | jm_: but i got no info in dmesg like: Souncard foo detected /dev/foo ... |
| 09:29.00 | sep | Eonn_work, ofcouse swat is not installed by default! |
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| 09:29.14 | jm_ | zimnyx: using ALSA? you can check stuff in /proc |
| 09:29.34 | Eonn_work | sep: sorry i dont remember installing it and it was on my machine... thus the deliberation |
| 09:29.40 | zimnyx | jm_: yep ALSA, wait a sec. |
| 09:29.57 | rocky23_ | sep: unable to create th foomatic driver epson stylus photo_830_gimp print.. either that driver does not exist or u dont have the required perms for that operation.. well im guessing it has the driver otherwise why let me select it ? |
| 09:30.02 | Eonn_work | sep: it might be listed as a recommended package under deselect |
| 09:30.31 | rocky23_ | sep: i hit cancel and it works ok ? dodgy :/ |
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| 09:30.51 | sep | rocky23_, cups contains a list of drivers you can select the drivers even if you dont have it installed |
| 09:30.52 | zimnyx | jm_: alsa /proc says "No soundcards" |
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| 09:31.35 | rocky23_ | sep: any reason my kyocera wouldnt appear in the scan list but the epson does ? |
| 09:31.36 | jm_ | zimnyx: ok, did you compile the kernel by yourself? |
| 09:31.44 | Eonn_work | rocky: ..and correct me again if im wrong sep, but most laser printers will accept generic postscript drivers? |
| 09:31.55 | sep | rocky23_, kyocera is a printer brand ?? |
| 09:31.59 | nevyn | yes |
| 09:32.00 | zimnyx | jm_: ok, i see the card, thanks,. |
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| 09:32.18 | zimnyx | jm_: i always compile kernel by myself |
| 09:32.19 | sep | Eonn_work, depends on the printer, man cheap color lasers dont |
| 09:32.20 | rocky23_ | sep: yer |
| 09:32.25 | zimnyx | just to learn |
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| 09:32.45 | nevyn | hrm |
| 09:33.01 | sep | Eonn_work, richo's OEM printers aficio are good PCL and PS support |
| 09:33.04 | nevyn | a HP color is like $370 or less US |
| 09:33.28 | Eonn_work | sep: yeah just installed a couple of HP's on our work network and the PS drivers did the job |
| 09:33.34 | sep | Eonn_work, i install printers in cups and print to them from windows using Postscript driver anyway so i dont remember whitch of my printers upport ps and witch dont |
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| 09:36.12 | nelse | guten morgen |
| 09:36.34 | msch_ | jm_: oh wow...awesome, i was mv'ing files to /dev/null |
| 09:36.34 | Eonn_work | nelse - g'day |
| 09:36.37 | technos | It's morning all right.. A good one, that remains open to debate. |
| 09:36.41 | msch_ | jm_: <- nice |
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| 09:36.59 | jm_ | msch_: yes, that won't quite work |
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| 09:37.04 | Eonn_work | Well its night over here...and a cold one in sydney tonight |
| 09:37.18 | msch_ | technos: oh god, where is it morning |
| 09:37.30 | nelse | berlin :) |
| 09:37.51 | technos | msch_: It's morning in the continental US for starters.. Very early morning here in Seattle. |
| 09:37.55 | msch_ | jm_: wow, cleaning up my mp3s, not a good move... |
| 09:38.08 | msch_ | technos: no no no, it's still nightime here in colorado |
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| 09:39.09 | Eonn_work | where is everyone else from? |
| 09:39.23 | daos | wondering if someone can help me do some http host redirection from Apache |
| 09:39.38 | Eonn_work | comeon im expecting 537 replies :) |
| 09:40.10 | nevyn | which is reccommended swat or webmin-samba? |
| 09:40.29 | daos | use the smb.conf file |
| 09:40.29 | rocky23_ | to get printer drivers to work i just install this gimp-print thing is that the best way ? |
| 09:40.30 | Eonn_work | nevyn - either - swat is pretty good |
| 09:40.36 | msch_ | nevyn: i like swat |
| 09:40.51 | daos | you will get a better understanding of samba if you do |
| 09:40.55 | msch_ | nevyn: but prefer vi /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 09:41.04 | Eonn_work | msch: lol |
| 09:41.05 | technos | msch_: See that clock? See how the big hand is on the right of the clock? When it's both dark out and the hand is on the right side of the face, it's morning. :) |
| 09:41.07 | nevyn | bleh it's not for ME!!! |
| 09:41.16 | msch_ | daos: ++ |
| 09:41.16 | nevyn | it's for users to be able to do stuff like add a user |
| 09:41.25 | daos | msch_ :D |
| 09:41.42 | Eonn_work | nevyn - you dont need a front end to add a user |
| 09:41.46 | msch_ | technos: no no no, morning is when the big fireball in the sky makes it not dark |
| 09:41.57 | nevyn | Eonn_work: I don't no. |
| 09:42.02 | msch_ | technos: although, i'd prefer it be sometime between 10-11 am |
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| 09:42.16 | nevyn | Eonn_work: where I'm deploying this they do. |
| 09:42.20 | daos | does anyone know if I can just do it with the Aliases and Redirects of the default server? |
| 09:42.25 | rocky23_ | anyone? is the best way to get printer drivers setup is to install gimp-print ? |
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| 09:42.47 | Eonn_work | nevyn: smbpasswd -a <username> |
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| 09:43.07 | nevyn | Eonn_work: far too hard. |
| 09:43.27 | Eonn_work | nevyn: lol are you kidding? |
| 09:43.48 | Eonn_work | nevyn: thats the joy of linux |
| 09:43.56 | rocky23_ | how do you guys get printer drivers for linux then ? :) |
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| 09:44.22 | technos | msch_: Here in the technos household, that time when the Evil Fireball crests the horizon and starts burning my eyeballs is called "bed time", for those that work graveyard shift are cursed to a vampire's sleeping schedule. |
| 09:44.26 | sep | rocky23_, i allways buy printers that have either ps or pcl |
| 09:44.31 | Eonn_work | rocky: first go the the manufacturers website and see whats there |
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| 09:44.49 | sep | rocky23_, and cups contains drivers for lots and gimp-print for lots more |
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| 09:45.05 | msch_ | nevyn: it looks like webmin-samba is still in unstable, maybe swat cause it's been around longer? |
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| 09:45.29 | nevyn | msch_: sarge box. |
| 09:45.30 | sep | rocky23_, and www.linuxprinting.org have a database of printers where you can learn about the different drivers that work well with a printer |
| 09:45.45 | nevyn | msch_: bothe are availible. |
| 09:45.56 | msch_ | technos: damn! that's no good...unless of course you prefer it ? |
| 09:46.10 | rocky23_ | sep: the ones i need say use the gimp-print driver? thats another piece of software tho ? |
| 09:46.12 | daos | so, anyone have any ideas for me? |
| 09:46.41 | msch_ | nevyn: why are users adding themselves anyway? seems like too much control for a user that can't operate the commandline |
| 09:46.51 | msch_ | nevyn: but that aside, i prefer swat |
| 09:47.01 | msch_ | nevyn: mostly just cause i know it better though... |
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| 09:47.38 | sep | rocky23_, thats in cupsys-driver-gimpprint cupsys-driver-gimpprint-date |
| 09:47.58 | sep | rocky23_, but check www.linuxprinting.org first and see if that gimprint driver is the best driver to use for your printer |
| 09:48.27 | sep | rocky23_, perhaps also foomatic-db-gimp-print |
| 09:49.05 | rocky23_ | sep: yeah ive checked and it says so :) |
| 09:49.19 | deefzi | what did RST mean on tcp-packets? |
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| 09:49.34 | daos | wondering if someone can help me do some http host redirection from Apache |
| 09:49.36 | fooz | reset |
| 09:49.38 | daos | does anyone know if I can just do it with the Aliases and Redirects of the default server? |
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| 09:50.30 | Gavrila | I get this error with cups: cancel: cancel-job failed: client-error-forbidden It's a job-location permissions issue but the manual is not clear about it. Any hint? |
| 09:50.46 | msch_ | aight all, i'm out... |
| 09:50.54 | msch_ | jm_: thanks for the help |
| 09:50.56 | Gavrila | I forgot to mention that this error occurs when I try to cancel a job |
| 09:51.09 | sep | Gavrila, doing that as root, or a user ? |
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| 09:51.19 | sep | Gavrila, you must be root or the user that made the job i belive |
| 09:51.22 | Gavrila | sep: both |
| 09:51.39 | Gavrila | none of them worked... |
| 09:52.09 | Gavrila | so I guess somwhere is stated that jobs can't be canceled on my machine... but where?? |
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| 09:53.40 | rixth | How do you request operator status from ChanServ? |
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| 09:54.06 | rocky23_ | sep: ive installed that driver and now when i go to install a driver nothing comes in the manufacturer list.. i can only selecto there.. how would i select the gimp option ? |
| 09:54.15 | jm_ | rixth: /msg chanserv help |
| 09:54.27 | SiliconViper | rixth, /msg chanserv OP #Channel <name> |
| 09:54.34 | rixth | SiliconViper, thanks |
| 09:54.43 | SiliconViper | rixth, glad to help. ^_~ |
| 09:55.08 | rixth | An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #mychannel |
| 09:55.38 | SiliconViper | So, I've got a package I want to install, but it depends on a package that is already installed, just not under the name it expects. What should I be looking at to install said package (the one with so-called 'unmet' dependancies)? |
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| 09:55.45 | sep | rocky23_, you restarted cupsys ofcouse |
| 09:55.56 | sep | rocky23_, i dont know i never use that |
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| 09:57.16 | blackninja666uk | Hello |
| 09:57.16 | blackninja666uk | i need some help regarding installation of the debian |
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| 09:57.56 | Ronin | blackninja666uk: we cant help till we know the problem |
| 09:58.01 | SiliconViper | I suppose a more concise question would be: How do I tell apt/dpkg that a package is already installed? |
| 09:58.17 | blackninja666uk | well |
| 09:58.23 | blackninja666uk | i downloaded 14 cds |
| 09:58.41 | a8809xl | whats the 666 about 0_o |
| 09:58.45 | daos | well can someone atleast tell me how to install mod_proxy, mod_proxy_http? |
| 09:58.49 | blackninja666uk | i basically use redhat |
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| 09:59.09 | blackninja666uk | and when we install full redhat it take 3 cds |
| 09:59.27 | daos | I searched dselect and it came back with nothing |
| 09:59.34 | Ronin | blackninja666uk: install of debian actually takes only one, the rest is extras all available using apt-get |
| 09:59.38 | snail | blackninja666uk: yes, but debian includes way more stuff than redhat |
| 09:59.40 | cat | daos: with apt? |
| 09:59.47 | technos | blackninja666uk: Debian includes two copeis of every package (source and binary) and lots more stuff than Redhat. |
| 09:59.49 | blackninja666uk | yes |
| 09:59.58 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, those 14 cds basically contain everything in the archives. |
| 10:00.02 | blackninja666uk | secondly |
| 10:00.08 | daos | cat: shouldn't that mean that dselect has it too? |
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| 10:00.33 | blackninja666uk | does the debian support ATI Readon 9200 SE graphic card |
| 10:00.34 | cat | well, yeah |
| 10:01.02 | daos | cat: comes back with the same thing |
| 10:01.09 | pif | hi, is there a script to reinstall all installed packages? (i have a fs corruption and some files are missing) |
| 10:01.10 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, it DOES... but ATI's drivers are a bit.... slow, in my experience. |
| 10:01.20 | daos | I am doing an update, maybe that will help |
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| 10:01.49 | blackninja666uk | yes |
| 10:02.03 | blackninja666uk | but in Fedora Core 4 it run perfect |
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| 10:02.24 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, but yes, since your question was if it runs, yes. It runs, and runs as good as it does in any other distribution. |
| 10:02.56 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, I just wish ATI would produce better linux drivers... |
| 10:03.13 | Ronin | blackninja666uk: it runs very nicely for me, however im not a gamer so i also dont need those obscene fps |
| 10:03.49 | SiliconViper | Yeah... that's where I noticed the 'slowness' that I was referring to, Ronin. For everything else, it's great. |
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| 10:04.30 | SiliconViper | Ronin, hence why I'm now using an nVidia card. No intention to start a hardware war, though. ;p |
| 10:04.40 | Ronin | :) |
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| 10:05.07 | blackninja666uk | Hello Ronin |
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| 10:06.16 | blackninja666uk | Can you please tell me why my ATI Graphic Card is Slow on Debian. but it works properly in Fedora |
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| 10:06.35 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, no, it's not slow in Debian, that was just poor wording on my part. |
| 10:06.56 | blackninja666uk | ok |
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| 10:07.13 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, I was meaning in comparison to ATI's Win32 drivers, those they produce for Linux are sub-par, and of poorer performance. In my experience. |
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| 10:07.40 | blackninja666uk | no i am not comparing the debian with windows |
| 10:07.58 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, the Fedora and Debian ones would be equal. |
| 10:08.00 | blackninja666uk | i am comparing debian with Fedora Cor 4 |
| 10:08.11 | blackninja666uk | yes |
| 10:08.37 | blackninja666uk | but graphic quality is not good as Fedora has |
| 10:08.44 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, yes, it is. |
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| 10:09.21 | sep | blackninja666uk, you mean you arent running the same resolution as you did on redhat ? turn up the resolution then. |
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| 10:09.37 | Orfeous | want some squid configuration help please |
| 10:09.39 | blackninja666uk | no resulation is same |
| 10:10.07 | liable | whats fc4 use? xorg? |
| 10:10.07 | blackninja666uk | is it any graphic difference between KDE 3.4 na dKDE 3.3 |
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| 10:10.17 | sep | blackninja666uk, and you are using the same drivers ? or are you using vesa ? |
| 10:10.27 | Stefano | hello everybody. I'm using sid on my notebook, an hp pavilion dv1000. I'm using xorg now (after the passage) but the xv is not working anymore (or,at least, not everytime). Here's what I get by mplayer or vlc:[00000307] a52 decoder: A/52 channels:6 samplerate:48000 bitrate:448000 |
| 10:10.28 | Stefano | X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) |
| 10:10.28 | Stefano | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.28 | Stefano | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:10.30 | sep | liable, both fc4 and 3 use xorg i belive |
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| 10:10.35 | blackninja666uk | using ATI drivers |
| 10:10.37 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, KDE 3.4 has a bit more eye candy, from what I recall. (I'm a gnome user, personally). |
| 10:10.40 | Stefano | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.02 | blackninja666uk | but debian doesnot tell which driver it is using |
| 10:11.19 | SiliconViper | blackninja666uk, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 10:11.57 | SiliconViper | Anyways, I'm gonnna leave before I mislead more people with my poor wording. Gonna play with Gentoo for a week or so, then come back home to my lovely Debian. Just for a change of pace. |
| 10:11.57 | blackninja666uk | ok |
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| 10:12.04 | Stefano | what could be it? |
| 10:12.11 | Stefano | my video card is a i915 |
| 10:12.15 | blackninja666uk | and the last question |
| 10:12.31 | blackninja666uk | i want to install full 14 cds |
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| 10:12.39 | liable | I have no idea, but in the graphics department, i have no problems believing fc4 has better support than debian.. |
| 10:12.54 | liable | blackninja666uk: you dont need all of them.. |
| 10:12.56 | a8809xl | hey, what do you guys think of ubuntu |
| 10:12.59 | blackninja666uk | is there any way in the cds that i give the command and it starts install full cd |
| 10:13.07 | a8809xl | trying to catch a ride on debians coattails ? |
| 10:13.12 | snail | blackninja666uk: you can't install them all, because some of them aren't compatible with each other |
| 10:13.32 | blackninja666uk | i see |
| 10:13.39 | snail | blackninja666uk: you can't have 14 webservers listening on port 80, for example (or not without special config) |
| 10:13.45 | liable | you cant *install* a cd. you can install some applications from it... |
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| 10:13.52 | blackninja666uk | ok |
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| 10:13.54 | blackninja666uk | thanks |
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| 10:14.07 | snail | blackninja666uk: use aptitude and select all the games ;) |
| 10:14.26 | blackninja666uk | because i move from fedora to Debian |
| 10:14.38 | SkuLLy | Can someone tell me how to load the module for adaptec 2200 raid controller ? |
| 10:14.39 | blackninja666uk | it is really difficult to install and run |
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| 10:14.45 | SkuLLy | on install that is |
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| 10:16.27 | liable | SkuLLy: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
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| 10:17.07 | SkuLLy | thx liable |
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| 10:25.47 | Ice_e | hi - am compiling a kernel 2.6.8 and got ps/2 mouse finally working - but no networking - think that the problem lies in this line in ../messages "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" |
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| 10:26.29 | Ice_e | but with kernel 2.4.7 it is "Loaded 741 symbols from 36 modules" |
| 10:26.37 | musicistaCont | hi |
| 10:27.03 | musicistaCont | i have a problem whit kdevelp 3.2.0 |
| 10:27.05 | Ice_e | hi musicista quiet here at the moment |
| 10:27.07 | musicistaCont | the code completion dont'work |
| 10:27.19 | paulie_c | Ice_e: did you load the proper modules during install? |
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| 10:27.35 | liable | Ice_e: why not just use a debian 2.6.8 kernel/ |
| 10:27.40 | Ice_e | dit just dpkg -i.. |
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| 10:28.09 | musicistaCont | i make a new PSC but when i use ctr+space it don't work |
| 10:28.16 | Ice_e | leable, trying to get that working |
| 10:28.30 | liable | Ice_e: what do you mean? |
| 10:28.36 | Eonn_work | ls |
| 10:28.51 | kadigibox | Hello everyone. are Frog Pad keyboards compatible on Debian? I would assume so but just checking |
| 10:29.03 | liable | !tell Ice_e about nicktab |
| 10:29.03 | Ice_e | compiling but the modules does not installs as they should |
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| 10:29.41 | liable | Ice_e: no, why not just apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386/ |
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| 10:31.24 | Ice_e | did try that but the mouse whas missing and it is strange that it dpkg does install a pair of kernels |
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| 10:32.13 | Ice_e | paulie_c: how do do you load the modules in debian i used to use Mandrake before |
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| 10:33.38 | liable | Ice_e: please explain what you mean, by mouse was missing? |
| 10:33.53 | liable | Ice_e: what kind of mouse? |
| 10:34.48 | Ice_e | the kernel did compile cleanly but without mouse support but that is ok now did disable usb mose in bios and compile ewerything MOUSE in the kernel |
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| 10:35.22 | liable | Ice_e: why dont you just install a debian 2.6 kernel, with apt-get? |
| 10:35.24 | Ice_e | it should be becouse of the error melding in ../messages |
| 10:36.06 | Ice_e | I am new to debian to tell you the trout although i have experiense with Mandrake |
| 10:36.23 | Ice_e | but find them to be to money oriented to day |
| 10:36.29 | liable | Ice_e: do you speak any other languages that you may be more comfortable with, than english? |
| 10:36.33 | Ice_e | but that is another story |
| 10:37.04 | Ice_e | just the mother language |
| 10:37.11 | liable | ok. |
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| 10:38.32 | Ice_e | any idea about "No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" in ../messages? |
| 10:38.46 | liable | Ice_e: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 10:39.02 | liable | Ice_e: you can ignore that message. |
| 10:39.12 | Ice_e | what does it mean |
| 10:39.33 | Ice_e | one kernel is missing or something like that |
| 10:39.55 | liable | Ice_e: I dont know actually, but all my compiled ones say that, but the modules still load.. |
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| 10:40.15 | Ice_e | liable: you got the same messages |
| 10:40.27 | liable | Ice_e: yes, and you can ignore them. |
| 10:40.28 | Ice_e | how can you see if the modules are loaded |
| 10:40.45 | liable | Ice_e: just load them, then look at lsmod.. |
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| 10:48.57 | larsie | How can I just test if my modem does work against a housenumber/isp ? |
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| 10:51.49 | X2 | hi |
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| 10:52.11 | jm_ | larsie: dial the number and listen to it? |
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| 10:52.47 | larsie | ah, 'dial cmd not found |
| 10:53.00 | jm_ | erhm you use minicom for example |
| 10:53.29 | liable | maybe try pppconfig? |
| 10:53.43 | larsie | I'm installing minicom now |
| 10:54.04 | larsie | I've installed mgetty for dialing back to the first caller. But First I just need to check if this modem does work. |
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| 10:54.25 | jesperj | is kde 3.4 available somehow for sarge? |
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| 10:54.40 | liable | !topicsmite jesperj |
| 10:54.43 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon jesperj. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 10:54.49 | chaica | hi |
| 10:55.29 | larsie | uhm, jm_ , minicom says it's offline. It means that the modem is not installed/not working then(?) |
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| 10:55.48 | jm_ | larsie: did you tell it which port to use? and set the settings like speed? |
| 10:55.49 | Msoffical | hi all what is the best Imap Server from debian's packages that has the /var/mail configurations setted (uw-imap is awful) |
| 10:55.57 | chaica | I'm using mirror option of wget and in the same time i'd like to ignore some directories, so I'm using --exclude-directories option, but it doesn't work at all, the excluded directories are downloaded. |
| 10:56.53 | jesperj | liable, ok :) |
| 10:57.09 | liable | :) |
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| 10:57.54 | larsie | jm_: yeah, but I think I've done that settings concerning mgetty. which file to edit? |
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| 10:58.35 | jm_ | larsie: for minicom? you can do it interactively, look in the lower left for a hint |
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| 11:00.02 | bartden | hi, anyone here who knows how i can make BitchX do a auto command on connect ?? |
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| 11:01.57 | bleeber | Question: I have this machine where I have done an lspci and it states that I am using a Realtek card but wheneven I modprobe 8139too it fails to load and the card is still unrecognized. I get the same from the 8139cp module... Any suggestions |
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| 11:02.27 | pirre | bleeber: lspci -v ? |
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| 11:03.12 | bleeber | yeah |
| 11:03.35 | bleeber | it says Realtek Unknown Device: 8139 |
| 11:03.36 | liable | whats it say when you modprobe it? |
| 11:03.56 | liable | oh. |
| 11:03.59 | bleeber | the standard error when modprobed |
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| 11:04.20 | bleeber | incorrect module parameters |
| 11:04.28 | jesperj | liable, http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34 does not seem to load |
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| 11:04.57 | bleeber | very strange.. |
| 11:05.12 | bleeber | anyone ever seen this before.. lspci sees the card but I cant load the module |
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| 11:06.01 | liable | jesperj: same here, must be down or something.. |
| 11:07.15 | bleeber | this is what lspci says |
| 11:07.17 | bleeber | 0000:00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.: Unknown device c139 (rev 10 |
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| 11:07.59 | liable | try update lspci, is it very new/ |
| 11:08.29 | liable | meh, my keyboard is not happy since I dropped my laptop :( |
| 11:09.37 | drac | /usr/bin/update-pciids |
| 11:10.02 | bleeber | lspci is new? |
| 11:10.02 | bleeber | why do you say that? |
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| 11:10.40 | Nigel | bleeber: he was saying two things at once |
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| 11:10.56 | Nigel | He was meaning, update lspci, and is your device new |
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| 11:11.07 | Nigel | I believe |
| 11:11.14 | liable | hehe, what a tard, update lspci, what was I thinking... |
| 11:11.22 | bleeber | Nigel, how would I go about doing that |
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| 11:11.34 | liable | bleeber: what drac wrote.. |
| 11:12.13 | bleeber | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 11:12.13 | bleeber | update-pciids: decompression failed, probably truncated file |
| 11:12.36 | Eonn_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.46 | Nigel | bleeber: may need to "apt-get install bzip2" |
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| 11:12.55 | Nigel | thats the format the download is in |
| 11:12.57 | ricky_clarkson | Yo. |
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| 11:13.34 | bleeber | Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8139 |
| 11:13.36 | bleeber | same thing |
| 11:13.41 | bleeber | thanks for the update though' |
| 11:13.52 | ricky_clarkson | !vnc |
| 11:13.52 | dpkg | i guess vnc is Virtual Network Computing (GUI remote-access), at http://www.realvnc.com, or http://www.tridiavnc.com, or ask me about x-not-vnc |
| 11:14.11 | ricky_clarkson | realvnc - is that appropriate for sending an X display out? |
| 11:15.21 | asuffield | it could be used but you want to be looking at NX |
| 11:15.26 | sep | ricky_clarkson, if you want to see what's on the monitor (like windows vnc) you must use the x11vnc package, otherways i'd use the tightvnc |
| 11:15.40 | liable | bleeber: so, is it a new card/ |
| 11:15.52 | sep | ricky_clarkson, and freeNX is a alternatice |
| 11:15.58 | bleeber | thanks for all your help guys.. Ill do some more google'ing for now |
| 11:16.06 | bleeber | its not a new card |
| 11:16.14 | bleeber | its the standard 8139too card |
| 11:16.27 | asuffield | NX is considerably faster for X forwarding, and it's not bad at windows either |
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| 11:16.41 | ricky_clarkson | sep: I don't really care whether it's the stuff on the monitor - having a separate display works for me. |
| 11:16.41 | bleeber | i have the exact same card running in a idetical box |
| 11:16.55 | bleeber | *identical |
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| 11:17.04 | ricky_clarkson | I did try using X forwarding, but I think the X server I used (Cygwin's Xorg) is b0rked. |
| 11:18.04 | ma3x | hey |
| 11:18.16 | ma3x | are there wireless routers over 30 meters (indoors) ? |
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| 11:19.11 | sep | ricky_clarkson, install tightvncserver then |
| 11:19.20 | sep | ricky_clarkson, that's easy to get going atlest |
| 11:20.15 | ricky_clarkson | DISPLAY=:0.0 tightvncserver & |
| 11:20.18 | ricky_clarkson | Something like that? |
| 11:20.27 | sep | ricky_clarkson, just aptitude install tightvncserver |
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| 11:20.40 | ricky_clarkson | sep: I did that. |
| 11:20.44 | liable | bleeber: if its onboard, maybe check the bios. |
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| 11:21.16 | sep | ricky_clarkson, and if you want to show display 0.0 (the monitor) you must use x11vnc as i said earlier |
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| 11:21.47 | MilitantDK | I've installed debian 3.1, and have openssl installed, but I'm missing pem.h evp.h and err.h. any idea on what to do? can't seem to find anything on google. |
| 11:21.53 | musicistaCont | i have a problem with kdevelop 3.2.0 code completion don't work only whit libstdc++ i make new PSC database but nothig what i have to do? |
| 11:21.56 | sep | ricky_clarkson, when it's installed you read the docs |
| 11:22.07 | sep | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.17 | jm_ | MilitantDK: /msg dpkg search |
| 11:22.27 | bleeber | thanks all. Ill work on this later.. take care |
| 11:22.29 | ricky_clarkson | I read the README.inetd. |
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| 11:23.07 | Nigel | MilitantDK: your compiling a program? |
| 11:23.20 | ricky_clarkson | sep: Does tightvncserver simulate a display? Can I connect to that display remotely via VNC then, is that the general idea? |
| 11:23.45 | hound | I am getting a strange problem trying to install exim4 on one of my machines. I get "2005-08-10 11:17:19 Exim configuration error in line 523 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: user mail was not found" at the configure stage of the package install, which is it trying to run update-exim4.conf |
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| 11:23.55 | ricky_clarkson | What Windows VNC client isn't spyware? ;) |
| 11:24.00 | seb__ | sup people |
| 11:24.19 | skinny | hi :-) when trying to make a net install (MINIMAL CD), after selecting the mirror, the installer downloads some stuff, detects the hardware and then complains that it can't find a Debian CDROM. Is this a known problem ? |
| 11:24.19 | sep | ricky_clarkson, tightvnc |
| 11:24.20 | hound | and can't identify user or group mail even though they exist in /etc/passwd. |
| 11:24.36 | sep | ricky_clarkson, _all_ vnc server run on non 0.0 displays |
| 11:24.40 | seb__ | all my GTK apps have real tiny fonts, how do I change that ? |
| 11:24.51 | sep | except x11vnc that can connect to 0.0 |
| 11:25.13 | jm_ | seb__: /msg dpkg gtk font size |
| 11:25.25 | hound | I've tried tracing through the code to figure out how it tries to determine the user exists but haven't found it yet, can anyone give me a hint at what it might do? maybe I'm missing a package it needs. |
| 11:25.33 | Nigel | MilitantDK: in future its not nice to PM people without asking, but ok, from your reponse i can ask you, did you download the openssl dev package? |
| 11:25.57 | ricky_clarkson | sep: I see, thanks. |
| 11:26.15 | skinny | seb__, did u installed transcode fonts? |
| 11:26.15 | MilitantDK | it was in my default install of debian from an iso |
| 11:27.01 | Nigel | MilitantDK: i suspect you need to "apt-get install libssl-dev" |
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| 11:28.13 | MilitantDK | Nigel: trying. thx for your time. new on irc also, so i don't know how to personalize my answer directly to you |
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| 11:28.57 | MilitantDK | Nigel: that seemed to solve my problem. thx a bunch :) |
| 11:29.05 | Nigel | MilitantDK: no problem |
| 11:29.09 | seb__ | skinny: i did |
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| 11:29.24 | Nigel | MilitantDK: happy to help |
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| 11:30.03 | tosh | whats a good automounter for my cdrom? |
| 11:30.16 | seb__ | skinny, jm_ : som the pb is that the default font specified in my .gtkrc is listed in gtkfontsel, but highlighting it in there doesn't change anythingm it's like it's listed somehow but X can't access it |
| 11:30.16 | jm_ | automount |
| 11:30.20 | ricky_clarkson | sep: In RealVNC Viewer, I specify the machine's IP address in 'Server'. Should I be specifying the display in there too somehow? It doesn't ocnnect. |
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| 11:30.42 | Genscher | hi there :) i have some udf problem |
| 11:30.42 | jm_ | seb__: xterm -fn 'fontseltext' and see if it works |
| 11:30.50 | seb__ | ricky_clarkson: if your displya is not :0 yeah you need to |
| 11:31.06 | ricky_clarkson | How? |
| 11:31.21 | smhar | anyone know of a good toturial for getting usb flash and camera's automounted in debian |
| 11:31.33 | jm_ | smhar: tried usbmount? |
| 11:31.50 | seb__ | jm_: xterm: unable to open font "fontseltext", trying "fixed".... |
| 11:31.59 | seb__ | jm_: so yeahm gtk uses fixed onlym it seems |
| 11:32.03 | liable | smhar: gnome does it iirc, if you use gnome.. |
| 11:32.07 | jm_ | seb__: uhm you're supposed to replace that with the real font selection as seen in gtkfontsel |
| 11:32.19 | seb__ | ricky_clarkson: vncviewer yourhost:1 for instance |
| 11:32.19 | sep | ricky_clarkson, i run tightvncserver as the user i am, |
| 11:32.29 | sep | ricky_clarkson, get asked a password (one time only) |
| 11:32.31 | seb__ | jm_: oh I see :) |
| 11:32.32 | Genscher | i put some dvd in my write but mounting sais "unkown filesystem 'udf'". so i installed udftools. but "apt-get install udftools" / depmod shows me some unresolved symbols in some kernel drivers (pcmcio.o..<-- i did not enable pcm) |
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| 11:32.52 | sep | ricky_clarkson, and conenct from a windows box with ip:1 |
| 11:32.53 | jm_ | Genscher: your kernel has to support UDF |
| 11:33.15 | Genscher | jm_: no possibility to get udf without new kernel? |
| 11:33.17 | seb__ | jm_: that worked with -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 |
| 11:33.19 | ma3x | has anybody had experience with D-Link wireless? |
| 11:33.27 | jm_ | Genscher: are you using Debian kernels? |
| 11:33.30 | smhar | jm_, liable , not tried usbmount or gnome but tried fiddlinig with udev and got no where |
| 11:33.30 | liable | no, noone |
| 11:33.34 | seb__ | jm_: funny thing is, that same one listed in .gtkrc doesn't yield any difference whatsoever |
| 11:33.37 | jm_ | seb__: right so font is there and it works |
| 11:33.42 | Genscher | no, my own 2.4.22 xfs smp kernel... |
| 11:33.47 | seb__ | jm_: yeah, so gtk is fucking me up then |
| 11:33.54 | jm_ | smhar: ahh I use hotplug to mount it at home and automount at work |
| 11:34.07 | jm_ | seb__: are you sure it's GTK app and not GKT2 app? |
| 11:34.19 | jm_ | Genscher: right, so maybe it's recompile time for you |
| 11:34.24 | ricky_clarkson | sep: It works, but it's a bit hard to read text on it. |
| 11:34.30 | seb__ | jm_: not sure, for now both xmms and gimp are giving me grief |
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| 11:34.54 | CVirus | how can i mount a .mdf file ? |
| 11:35.03 | jm_ | seb__: xmms is GTK1, GIMP in Sarge is GTK2 |
| 11:35.35 | jm_ | CVirus: convert it to cue/bin and use cdemu, or convert it to iso and use loop mount, or enhance cdemu to handle MDF/MDS files |
| 11:35.37 | seb__ | jm_: well that .gtkrc trick didn't change anything for xmms nor for gim[ |
| 11:35.40 | seb__ | gimp |
| 11:35.46 | Genscher | jm_: i never compiled it on my server :( nahh.... thank you for your help. i have to use ext2 then. |
| 11:35.52 | jm_ | seb__: what font are you looking at in xmms? |
| 11:36.00 | jm_ | Genscher: you can install Debian kernels |
| 11:36.13 | Genscher | i need xfs, i2o, smp,.. |
| 11:36.14 | seb__ | jm_: the oopen file dialog box |
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| 11:36.21 | Genscher | is the the kernel with xfs? |
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| 11:36.25 | Shimonn | hi |
| 11:36.25 | CVirus | jm_: thanks .. i'll google about converting it to iso ... thanks again |
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| 11:36.46 | ricky_clarkson | sep: seb__: Thanks for your help, great. |
| 11:36.59 | tosh | whats a good automounter for my cdrom? |
| 11:37.04 | seb__ | jm_: somehow everything gtk related uses a tiny fixed font... |
| 11:37.08 | seb__ | ricky_clarkson: no problem |
| 11:37.12 | Shimonn | i need a wifi PCI card. what should i buy to have no compatibility problem with Debian ? |
| 11:37.19 | seb__ | tosh: shitm been told twice already |
| 11:37.24 | jm_ | seb__: right, that's GTK |
| 11:37.28 | smhar | jm_, with kde when I plug the flash key the required modules are automatically loaded but nothing else.. but I can mount it manually from the console |
| 11:37.30 | seb__ | jm_: yup |
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| 11:37.39 | seb__ | jm_: any other ideas ? :\ |
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| 11:38.36 | Baiowlop | hey guys, i was wondeirng where i could get hold of the vmware console for linux, so i can vmware onto a server? |
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| 11:38.52 | jm_ | seb__: WFM |
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| 11:39.04 | jmd | #hesse |
| 11:39.04 | seb__ | Baiowlop: wild guessm vmware.com ? |
| 11:39.12 | Baiowlop | i have checked there, but it's not there |
| 11:39.18 | seb__ | dpkg wfm ? |
| 11:39.18 | dpkg | wfm is probably Works for Me, or some strange corruption of hopwfm, or what fucking manual? |
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| 11:39.31 | seb__ | jm_: shite :) |
| 11:39.37 | Bwl | In sarge, why doesn't kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686 have ext2 compiled in -- while -2-386 does? |
| 11:39.42 | seb__ | jm_: thanks for your help anyway, man |
| 11:39.49 | jm_ | seb__: just copied gtkrc.uk, changed font size, and XMMS uses it fnormally |
| 11:39.51 | Bwl | This makes mondo unusable for -2-686 kernel. |
| 11:40.07 | jm_ | Bwl: doesnt matter since it uses initrd |
| 11:40.16 | seb__ | jm_: well gtkfontsel somehow doesn't display my fontm it allows me to pick it, but doesn't display it |
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| 11:40.27 | Baiowlop | dpkg vmware |
| 11:40.27 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, vmware is for 2.6 kernels, download the patches from ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware, read the README, or #vmware, or vmware 5.0 supports 2.6 kernels happily |
| 11:40.28 | seb__ | so my problemn comes from there, somehow gtk can't disqply them |
| 11:40.32 | seb__ | oh well |
| 11:40.38 | seb__ | i'll look into it some more later |
| 11:40.41 | seb__ | thx again |
| 11:40.50 | jm_ | seb__: that's unusual, maybe your font configuration in X config file is not OK |
| 11:41.03 | seb__ | jm_: i would think that too |
| 11:41.23 | seb__ | thx again, bye |
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| 11:42.27 | Eonn_work | nextimerpyreest |
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| 11:44.57 | dupondje | hi guys, dmesg is getting flooded with messaged like 'evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 4, Code: 4, Value: 28 |
| 11:45.03 | dupondje | any id how to disable that ? |
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| 11:46.18 | omry_at_work | how do I add a new backend to apt-proxy? |
| 11:46.31 | omry_at_work | can't seem to get it to work. |
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| 11:50.42 | b_52GM | hi |
| 11:50.52 | b_52GM | could i ask a delicate question |
| 11:50.54 | b_52GM | ? |
| 11:51.19 | jm_ | b_52GM: we don't know, could you? /msg dpkg ask |
| 11:51.42 | b_52GM | ok :) |
| 11:52.06 | b_52GM | do someone have install oracle10g before on debian? |
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| 11:52.09 | Delfix | hola |
| 11:52.24 | b_52GM | hi |
| 11:52.28 | Delfix | español? |
| 11:52.54 | tosh | b_52GM its not supported on debian |
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| 11:53.22 | b_52GM | tosh: you mean install oracle on debian is not possible? |
| 11:53.29 | petemc | b_52GM: it is |
| 11:53.34 | Delfix | necesito ayuda para instalar debian a base de paquetes |
| 11:53.44 | b_52GM | freench |
| 11:53.45 | b_52GM | :) |
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| 11:54.02 | s_ward | !es Delfix |
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| 11:54.10 | s_ward | !es |
| 11:54.10 | Delfix | s_ward español? |
| 11:54.10 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:54.14 | tosh | b_52GM I haven't had any luck with it... installscript says its not supported |
| 11:54.15 | Delfix | !es |
| 11:54.26 | b_52GM | tosh: ok :( |
| 11:54.27 | Delfix | thx |
| 11:54.38 | b_52GM | tosh: finally where you pt oracle? |
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| 11:55.56 | tosh | b_52GM sorry? |
| 11:56.42 | b_52GM | tosh: i mean where finally did you install oracle |
| 11:56.51 | b_52GM | under wich plateforme |
| 11:56.58 | tosh | b_52GM no, ended up installing it on a solaris box |
| 11:57.15 | nilse | is libc6 broken in sid ? i get an error while using apt-get upgrade |
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| 11:57.35 | b_52GM | tosh oh solaris |
| 11:57.43 | b_52GM | ok |
| 11:57.49 | b_52GM | tosh: thanks |
| 11:57.50 | Bwl | jm_: It seems like mondo doesn't work if ext2 isn't compiled in anyway. I guess I'm forced to downgrade to -2-386 then (since I want security updates for the images and not the source..). :/ |
| 11:58.29 | jm_ | Bwl: or maybe you could compile a custom kernel |
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| 11:58.38 | hound | I am trying to install exim4, and having a lot of problems. I did an strace of exim4 and this is what I get: http://pastebin.com/333628 |
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| 11:59.05 | hound | It gives a permission denied trying to open /etc/passwd (that would should do it!) but my permissions have it set for global readability. |
| 11:59.09 | b_52GM | nice day to all |
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| 11:59.19 | hound | So I'm not sure why it would be denied |
| 11:59.24 | Bwl | jm_: Yes, I would if it were my own server. No-one will re-compile that kernel later, only apt-get upgrade the kernel. |
| 11:59.39 | tosh | hound it can't open the logfiles either, you sure those are correct permission-wise? |
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| 12:00.55 | hound | tosh, they don't exist yet, this is right when it is trying to install the package, and exim4-config doesn't create /var/log/exim4 |
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| 12:01.05 | fseek | helo |
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| 12:01.16 | fseek | mrhm, hello |
| 12:01.26 | obscuresoul | does anybody knows how to add modules to initrd? |
| 12:01.36 | vivek | D [10/Aug/2005:12:30:51 +0530] [Job 20] ESP Ghostscript 815.00: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 |
| 12:01.54 | vivek | i am having trouble with cups ... somehow Ghostscript keeps failing |
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| 12:02.02 | vivek | how do i fix this ? |
| 12:02.33 | hound | This is inside a vserver so I have limited /dev/ nodes created, and I'm assuming it must be missing one. It WAS installed and working, I don't know what led to it's demise. |
| 12:02.54 | hound | But it just says /etc/passwd, nothing about /dev's |
| 12:03.23 | Bwl | Anyone care to explain the man-page for grub-reboot, 'Reboots into the specified OS entry in menu.lst (where "entry" is the entry number in menu.lst)'. I don't have any entry number in menu.lst, and if they want me to count manually -- is that beginning with 0 or 1? |
| 12:03.51 | fseek | 0 I think, not sure however |
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| 12:04.21 | jm_ | Bwl: with 0, install grub-doc |
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| 12:05.00 | Ben__ | hallo, hat einer von euch schon mal mit einem nortel baystack 450 gearbeitet? |
| 12:05.09 | Bwl | jm_: I would like to believe that man grub-reboot would be sufficent for that operation tho. Thanks. |
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| 12:06.38 | obscuresoul | does anybody knows how to add modules to initrd? |
| 12:06.58 | jm_ | Bwl: it's not |
| 12:07.02 | Bwl | jm_: I guess. :) |
| 12:07.32 | fseek | obscuresoul gunzip it (if compressed) and then mount it using -o loop |
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| 12:07.44 | fseek | add the file you need, umount, gzip |
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| 12:08.03 | redspike | is tehre anyway to get "autologout" from x/xdm when a user idle? |
| 12:08.05 | fseek | (maybe you need also to change some configuration file) |
| 12:08.07 | hound | oh that's interesting, it opens /etc/passwd previously and it worked |
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| 12:09.10 | vivek | anyone else have trouble with gs esp ? |
| 12:09.41 | jm_ | redspike: xautolock can call a command for you |
| 12:11.02 | vivek | how do i downgrade from debian testing package to the stable package ? |
| 12:11.33 | obscuresoul | fseek there is no other way? like add the modules to /etc/modules or /etc/modules.conf (can't remember at the moment) |
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| 12:12.59 | shadowcat | vivek: man dpkg |
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| 12:13.53 | fseek | obscuresoul that's not what you asked :) |
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| 12:14.52 | obscuresoul | fseek but adding modules do modules.conf doesn't enough? |
| 12:14.54 | obscuresoul | argh lol |
| 12:15.03 | obscuresoul | do you know any tut? |
| 12:15.17 | redspike | jm_: thanx iam look at it.. |
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| 12:18.15 | vivek | what's the file where package pinning details should be place ? |
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| 12:18.24 | vivek | /etc/apt/preferences ? |
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| 12:18.50 | obscuresoul | yes |
| 12:18.58 | vivek | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.08 | ^Mephisto^ | does anyone know if i can make the delete key in gnome actually *delete* a file, instead of moving it to the annoying trash bin? |
| 12:19.26 | obscuresoul | vivek y |
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| 12:20.17 | fseek | obscuresoul do you only need to load a module on boot? |
| 12:20.30 | fseek | obscuresoul in that case, try modconf as root |
| 12:21.13 | vivek | ah finally ... gs-esp is broken in unstable/testing |
| 12:21.29 | liable | thats good? |
| 12:21.57 | vivek | no finally getting my printer to print is good ... |
| 12:22.03 | liable | obscuresoul: just add whatever module to /etc/modules.. |
| 12:22.18 | obscuresoul | fseek yes only on boot |
| 12:22.19 | larsie | Is the '9 pin(smallest one)' the ttyS0 or S1 ?? |
| 12:22.20 | obscuresoul | :P |
| 12:22.41 | jm_ | larsie: the size doesn't tell you if it's ttyS0 or ttyS1 |
| 12:22.42 | vivek | larsie: the first one is usually ttyS0 |
| 12:22.47 | vivek | and the second one is S1 |
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| 12:23.07 | znx | :) |
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| 12:25.32 | larsie | jm_: ah, okey, the modem won't dial out on tts0/s1. |
| 12:25.48 | jm_ | larsie: do you get any response from it at all? |
| 12:26.19 | larsie | Nah, not yet. The 'ready to send' LED are red thou.. |
| 12:26.32 | larsie | I don't know if its working at all.. never tried it. |
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| 12:26.47 | larsie | and beside, I only got a 12v, so I tried that one. |
| 12:26.54 | larsie | I don't konw if that's something to do with it |
| 12:27.16 | hound | why is it when I type su -s /bin/bash Debian-exim I get a message No Shell |
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| 12:28.51 | melitical | Hi. i have a problem with ethernet. i could't connect the internet |
| 12:29.20 | melitical | i use a debian woody version. |
| 12:29.28 | hound | bah! I can do it on any other system. |
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| 12:30.21 | larsie | jm_: so, is there any other way to check if the modem is actually working exept minicom? |
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| 12:30.56 | jm_ | larsie: minicom will be by far the easiest choice |
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| 12:32.12 | liable | melitical: any reason for using woody? |
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| 12:32.36 | larsie | jm_: k. does 'offline' mean that 'modem isn't intact' or ' the modem is just not connected to isp/whatevah'. ? |
| 12:32.50 | liable | larsie: pppconfig or wvdial should work if the kernel detects the device.. |
| 12:33.11 | melitical | i haven't tried Linux before. Somebody said woody is most reliable version so i use it. |
| 12:33.30 | jm_ | larsie: does it respond to any commands? |
| 12:33.45 | melitical | i am rookie on Linux |
| 12:34.08 | liable | melitical: woody is the old stable, and is a bit long in the tooth now. if you have just installed, maybe better to install the new stable, which is sarge. |
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| 12:34.52 | Orfeous | need some squid help :) |
| 12:35.15 | Orfeous | i want to use webfiltering.. to filter out like ads..scripts..activex..etc. |
| 12:35.38 | liable | !tell melitical about d-i |
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| 12:36.17 | nextime | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.37 | jm_ | Orfeous: use privoxy/dansguardian for that, they work just fine with squid |
| 12:36.54 | larsie | jm_: Not yet, i've only tried 'atd 63953090',and that didn't work. The only thing that point outs that the modem is still intact is if I open minicom for second time, it says: /dev/ttys1 is locked. |
| 12:37.03 | jm_ | there's also squidguard/adzapper |
| 12:37.06 | larsie | Is the last part relevant/or does say anything? |
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| 12:37.22 | Orfeous | jm_: ok, have you experiences with this? |
| 12:37.26 | Orfeous | can we talk priv? |
| 12:37.40 | jm_ | larsie: just send it AT command and it should respond with OK, don't bother dialing until that works - that message is fine because the first copy of minicom has locked it |
| 12:38.16 | jm_ | Orfeous: I have used DG in the past, now I am using privoxy - there's no big deal about it, privxoy docs have details about configuring it (but I don't do it their way) |
| 12:38.21 | larsie | jm_: yeah, so it says. So, when minicom is able to lock it,the modem is working |
| 12:38.32 | jm_ | larsie: no |
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| 12:38.38 | Orfeous | jm_: can we talk priv? |
| 12:39.33 | hound | Okay narrowed down my problem a little more, I did a diff of a working system and a broken system and this is what I got: http://pastebin.com/333654 (ignore the very first line, that was an oops in the paste) |
| 12:40.04 | jm_ | Orfeous: no, just ask here |
| 12:40.06 | hound | don't know why bash has permission denied, but the locales don't exist there, could that be my problem? |
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| 12:40.13 | hound | I ran dpkg-reconfigure locales but it didn't fix anything |
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| 12:40.27 | hound | the - are the broken system the + are the working one |
| 12:40.28 | Orfeous | jm_: ok :( |
| 12:40.55 | Orfeous | jm_: what does your squid and privoxy do for you? |
| 12:41.11 | jm_ | Orfeous: uhm I use squid for caching and privoxy for filtering |
| 12:41.24 | Orfeous | jm_: ok, what squid version? |
| 12:41.42 | jm_ | Orfeous: the one from Sarge |
| 12:42.03 | Orfeous | jm_: ok, and that is version? |
| 12:42.10 | Orfeous | i have squid 2.5.10 |
| 12:42.10 | jm_ | Orfeous: packages.debian.org |
| 12:42.13 | Orfeous | latest stable |
| 12:42.15 | streuner | dpkg, info squid sarge |
| 12:42.20 | dpkg | squid: (Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache)), section web, is optional. Version: 2.5.9-10 (sarge), Packaged size: 749 kB, Installed size: 2024 kB |
| 12:42.23 | jm_ | Sarge is stable yes |
| 12:43.17 | Orfeous | yes |
| 12:43.32 | Orfeous | jm_: have you only installed squid-package? or something more? |
| 12:43.33 | Oliver1 | Somebody know how to connect more than 4 IDE devices on motherbord which support 4 (2 IDE cable) ? |
| 12:43.55 | js_ | Oliver1: get a controller card |
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| 12:43.59 | Orfeous | Oliver1: use Controller card |
| 12:44.06 | liable | 1get anoter card? |
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| 12:44.10 | jm_ | Orfeous: squid and privoxy |
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| 12:44.27 | Oliver1 | What is that CONTORLER CARD ? |
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| 12:44.43 | streuner | Oliver1: google for 'IDE Controller Card' |
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| 12:45.10 | js_ | Oliver1: its a pci card that you can put two more ide cables in, to connect more devices |
| 12:45.20 | Orfeous | jm_: ok, i have tried to configure my squid for my LAN but it seems that it does not work :( when i tell my browser to use the proxy adress.. nothing happens when o try to see a webpage.. just searching....searching... |
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| 12:45.40 | Orfeous | jm_: maybe you can help me to get squid to work for me if i tell you my LAN details. |
| 12:45.51 | Orfeous | i only want computers on my LAN to have access to proxy |
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| 12:46.04 | Eonn-work | Orfeous - well problem solved, no adds, no active X, nothing |
| 12:46.05 | jm_ | Orfeous: you need to edit squid config file and set ACL-s properly |
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| 12:48.12 | Orfeous | Eonn-work: hehe :) |
| 12:48.22 | Orfeous | jm_: i have tried.. but it seems not working. |
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| 12:48.35 | streuner | dpkg, doesn't work |
| 12:48.36 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 12:48.43 | jm_ | Orfeous: it shouldn't be hanging in that case, it would tell you it has been rejected |
| 12:48.59 | Orfeous | jm_: should i leave everything else as default and just do the acl and access thing? |
| 12:49.24 | jm_ | Orfeous: yes, use defaults until you get familiar with it |
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| 12:50.25 | Orfeous | jm_: ok, now then how do i setup the config so only my computer on my LAN have access and no others. |
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| 12:50.44 | Valen | anybody here have mppc working with poptop? |
| 12:50.48 | Eonn-work | dpkg - angry..angry - logical, but angry |
| 12:50.58 | jm_ | Orfeous: http_access allow localhost |
| 12:51.06 | Valen | i have followed the howto's, patched everything with mppc |
| 12:51.07 | chete | hello which is the spanish channel |
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| 12:51.13 | jm_ | that should be default anyway |
| 12:51.18 | Angel-SL | !take a screenshot |
| 12:51.26 | liable | chete: #debian-es |
| 12:51.34 | chete | thanks!!! |
| 12:51.36 | Valen | but when i throw files around the windows connection info thingie says 0% compression |
| 12:51.40 | jm_ | ahh no it's probably commented out, so just remove the comment |
| 12:52.05 | BobW | When i try to mount my cdrom ($mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom) it gives me the error message "mount: mount point /cdrom is a symbolic link to nowhere" |
| 12:52.10 | chete | alguien me podria ayudar?? |
| 12:52.14 | greycat | !es |
| 12:52.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:52.26 | Orfeous | jm_: its allready have that line as default |
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| 12:52.38 | liable | chete: um, /j #debian-es |
| 12:52.39 | jm_ | Orfeous: so it accepts them |
| 12:52.46 | Angel-SL | dpkg, how do you take a screenshot in Debian |
| 12:52.58 | jm_ | Angel-SL: /msg dpkg screenshot |
| 12:53.10 | jm_ | you were told about 6.5 hours ago |
| 12:53.10 | Orfeous | jm_: ok.. so my computers is accepted on my LAN? |
| 12:53.17 | Angel-SL | i know |
| 12:53.19 | jm_ | Orfeous: no, this is for localhost only |
| 12:53.20 | Angel-SL | testing.. |
| 12:53.41 | Orfeous | jm_: ok, but i want access to my computers.. |
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| 12:53.46 | jm_ | Orfeous: so add them |
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| 12:54.03 | Orfeous | jm_: where? and how? |
| 12:54.07 | dimir | BobW: well, isn't the error message self-explanatory? See 'ls -lAd /cdrom' where is it pointing to |
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| 12:54.12 | Vladi | hi, i have reiserfs and i did a --rebuild-tree -S to recover some deleted files and now after i copy new stuff over to it i sometimes click on a folder and get the contents of the previous folder in that folder can somone help? |
| 12:54.26 | jm_ | Orfeous: in config file, sheesh - use acl line, there's plenty of examples in there |
| 12:54.57 | liable | Angel-SL: this is a gentoo link, but still relevent.. http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Make_a_Screenshot_with_PrintScreen_Key |
| 12:55.18 | Orfeous | jm_: sorry for asking so much.. but its better to ask than not :P i have allready tried to setup everything with no success so thats why im asking ;) |
| 12:55.18 | BobW | dimir, the /cdrom is pointing to /media/cdrom which is there |
| 12:56.00 | dimir | BobW: well, try to mount it to /mnt, for example |
| 12:56.26 | tosh | anyone that has a exim.conf I can have a copy of, and who is using a userbased recipient setup? |
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| 12:56.50 | dimir | BobW: and, is /dev/cdrom pointing to a proper device? |
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| 12:57.22 | BobW | dimir, yes, /dev/cdrom is pointing to /dev/hdc |
| 12:57.50 | dimir | BobW: so when you mount it to somewhere else? |
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| 12:58.18 | CrokOdeal | Hi |
| 12:58.23 | BobW | dimir, i can mount the cdrom anywhere but /cdrom |
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| 12:59.15 | dimir | BobW: well, /media/cdrom should be pointing to /media/cdrom0, do you have'em? |
| 12:59.23 | tosh | can I add smbfs entries to fstab? |
| 12:59.31 | liable | yes |
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| 13:00.16 | PeterB | tosh: /msg dpkg smb share fstab |
| 13:00.24 | tosh | thanks |
| 13:00.24 | BobW | dimir, ah.../media/cdrom0 folder is missing |
| 13:00.25 | dimir | tosh: only that you might need to store your password there, in clear text |
| 13:00.32 | Orfeous | jm_: i dont get this with acl :( |
| 13:00.32 | BobW | dimir, not sure how that happened??? |
| 13:00.47 | dimir | BobW: erm, no |
| 13:00.48 | Orfeous | jm_: im trying to read examples but i dont get it.. what to type? |
| 13:00.48 | dimir | :-) |
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| 13:01.34 | dimir | BobW: always follow symlinks until you get to a real-existing object :-P |
| 13:01.54 | jm_ | Orfeous: use the src ACL type, I don't have time to give you every command, they're all documented |
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| 13:02.14 | BobW | dimir, yes good point, an oversight on my part...need something to eat i guess |
| 13:02.21 | Orfeous | jm_: ok, i can try.. |
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| 13:02.34 | dimir | BobW: bon appetite, then |
| 13:02.37 | CrokOdeal | hi all, i have a problem with a folder turned as a file looking something like this : ?r-Srwsr-x .... oO Can you help me please ? |
| 13:02.48 | Orfeous | jm_: "acl mylan src 10.10.2.1-10.10.2.254/24" should that work? |
| 13:02.54 | dimir | :-P |
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| 13:07.20 | CrokOdeal | k thx |
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| 13:10.00 | Orfeous | jm_: i added this lines.. |
| 13:10.07 | Orfeous | acl mylan src 10.10.2.0/24 |
| 13:10.14 | Orfeous | http_access allow mylan |
| 13:10.29 | Orfeous | maybe that should be ok |
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| 13:11.13 | Eonn-work | Night all |
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| 13:17.40 | Oliver1 | Hey, what is the diference between EXT2 and EXT3 file system ? I mean, what shoul I use and why ?? |
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| 13:17.56 | und0 | Oliver1: journal |
| 13:17.59 | Jumpy | hi |
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| 13:18.19 | Oliver1 | Journal ? That is not EXT2 or EXT3 ? |
| 13:18.33 | js_ | ext3 is journalled |
| 13:18.39 | Jumpy | i have a problem with kdevevlop 3.2.0 code completion don't work only with libstdc++ 3.4 |
| 13:18.39 | PeterB | Oliver1: Ext3 is Ext2 with a journal. |
| 13:18.56 | Jumpy | have you sameudeas? |
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| 13:19.36 | Oliver1 | What is journal ? |
| 13:19.37 | saturne | hello |
| 13:20.21 | xoz | Oliver1: google ext3 journal |
| 13:20.30 | sep | Oliver1, think of it a magical object that allow you to skip the fsck on reboots |
| 13:20.32 | Orfeous | Oliver1: ext3 is a journaling system |
| 13:20.33 | Oliver1 | PeterB , what is better with journal or without yournal ? |
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| 13:20.34 | sep | :) |
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| 13:20.48 | saturne | it is possible to logs all file transfers with sftp, as it's possible with ftp daemon? howto? |
| 13:20.49 | sep | !bettetr |
| 13:20.50 | sep | !bettet |
| 13:20.58 | PeterB | Oliver1: With. |
| 13:21.04 | sep | Oliver1, that depends on your needs |
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| 13:21.41 | Jumpy | Hi!, i have a problem with kdevevlop 3.2.0, code completion don't work only with libstdc++ 3.4 have you same ideas? |
| 13:21.49 | Oliver1 | OK, thanks. But I heard that linux partitions doesnt need to DEFRAGMET ? Is it case with both EXT2 and EXT3 ? |
| 13:22.13 | saturne | Oliver1, yes |
| 13:22.14 | sep | Oliver1, yes |
| 13:22.27 | Oliver1 | ok, thanks, no more questions :) |
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| 13:23.05 | greycat | #sed would be the place for the real gurus |
| 13:23.08 | greycat | bah. |
| 13:23.17 | LSorensen | Oliver1: just try not to fill them past 90% |
| 13:23.19 | greycat | I swear irssi hates me sometimes. |
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| 13:23.53 | Orfeous | need help get squid to work.. |
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| 13:26.16 | monggapchiki | chat |
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| 13:28.01 | joe__ | any magic trick to get jave working in firefox on debian ? I followed the instructions, but no luck :( |
| 13:28.03 | Marctraider | how do i install debian??????????? |
| 13:28.13 | greycat | christ on a stick. |
| 13:28.23 | asg | greycat: christsicles? |
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| 13:28.30 | greycat | how do people GET this stupid? |
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| 13:29.02 | Marctraider | that was a joke, i wanted to test you guys ;) |
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| 13:29.20 | defcon8 | i like the "isnt linux a trojan" stuff |
| 13:29.27 | defcon8 | i like to ask that kinda stuff on dalnet |
| 13:29.30 | Guerin | Marctraider: well,, you proved your poor comedy skills |
| 13:29.50 | Marctraider | Guerin: It wasnt comedy. |
| 13:30.03 | Guerin | Marctraider: you're quite right, it wasn't |
| 13:30.08 | greycat | it's called trolling. |
| 13:30.23 | defcon8 | Guerin, :D |
| 13:30.28 | Marctraider | Not really. |
| 13:30.31 | defcon8 | were you the guy coming to istanbul? |
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| 13:30.58 | Marctraider | In fact, I was already being told what answer I could expect here, so it is. |
| 13:30.58 | Guerin | defcon8: yeah, eventually |
| 13:31.01 | joe__ | Actually.. I have a question. My laptop boots in 800x600. So when I log out from KDE, X11 just goes black |
| 13:31.20 | Guerin | defcon8: looking like september or so next year |
| 13:31.28 | hound | is there a virt package that includes all the base packages? and what is it? |
| 13:31.41 | defcon8 | next year? :| |
| 13:31.46 | omry_at_work | say I got a machine called a inside the lan, and the comany domain is b.com. can I configure my mail so that I can send mail to user@a.b.com ? |
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| 13:32.25 | Guerin | defcon8: i'm not leaving until next year |
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| 13:32.41 | Guerin | this is what i'm calling 'advance research' |
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| 13:33.31 | defcon8 | ok |
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| 13:33.49 | defcon8 | what is this n= shit? |
| 13:34.09 | Guerin | it's n=ew |
| 13:34.28 | defcon8 | im not fkn new |
| 13:34.34 | defcon8 | my name is like 1.5 years old |
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| 13:34.57 | greycat | *sigh* |
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| 13:35.03 | asg | *grimace* |
| 13:35.05 | xoz | defcon8: no ident |
| 13:35.10 | defcon8 | ahh ok |
| 13:35.16 | defcon8 | i need to open my ident server again |
| 13:35.22 | [AWAY]Mega[Work] | good morning all |
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| 13:35.23 | greycat | defcon8: it's lilo's latest crack-induced vomitus |
| 13:35.28 | defcon8 | lol |
| 13:35.39 | greycat | hey wait... wasn |
| 13:35.45 | greycat | 't it capital N yesterday? |
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| 13:36.15 | xoz | n= or i= is confusing |
| 13:36.39 | greycat | I could've sworn I was an I=rfc1413 not an i=rfc1413 |
| 13:36.46 | asg | greycat: it was |
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| 13:36.53 | asg | greycat: I asked last night; nobody knew |
| 13:36.59 | greycat | so it's changing on a day by day basis too? |
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| 13:37.02 | greycat | wow. go lilo. |
| 13:37.05 | Jumpy | Hi, i have a problem with kdevevlop 3.2.0 code completion don't work only with libstdc++ 3.4, Have you same ideas? |
| 13:37.42 | greycat | me either. it's utterly pointless. |
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| 13:37.54 | greycat | you already had a distinguishing ~ before non-idented nicks. |
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| 13:38.03 | greycat | hey, how come HE got a capital N? |
| 13:38.08 | ajpr | hi all..again |
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| 13:38.24 | k-man_ | how can i redirect say, 10 lines from the output of a process which i have to use ctrl-C to stop? |
| 13:38.28 | k-man_ | ie... |
| 13:38.36 | greycat | k-man_: | head -10 |
| 13:38.39 | k-man_ | tzap -a 0 -r "ABC TV" > report |
| 13:38.45 | k-man_ | oh |
| 13:38.48 | greycat | oh god, not a tzap question again. |
| 13:38.52 | sgeigerbot | !+greycat |
| 13:38.52 | dpkg | methinks greycat is at http://209.142.155.49/greycat.yi.org/ or an error-message-to-apt-get-install translation bot, or way too quick, or magical, or http://wooledge.org/~greg/ or moron #42, or better than a gigapet, or great woodleg, or a linux distro, or sometimes has too much time on his hands, or he outgrew alt.sex.binaries back before it was even alt.binaries.pictures.erotica, or he has nice furry legs, or a sweet ride, or neutered |
| 13:39.05 | k-man_ | greycat, whats wrong with that? |
| 13:39.10 | greycat | dpkg, greycat =~ s/, or neutered// |
| 13:39.10 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
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| 13:39.18 | sgeigerbot | greycat: :-) |
| 13:39.33 | sgeigerbot | greycat: how are you? Long time... |
| 13:39.36 | greycat | k-man_: someone in #bash was having trouble with that yesterday or the day before. apparently his copy of tzap was not working properly with respect to stdout redirection |
| 13:40.23 | k-man_ | greycat, ahh... |
| 13:40.27 | k-man_ | thats my problem i think |
| 13:40.31 | k-man_ | its not redirecting to a file |
| 13:40.35 | k-man_ | or to anything |
| 13:40.44 | greycat | UTSL |
| 13:40.50 | k-man_ | whats that? |
| 13:40.52 | Guerin | k-man_: you might be redirecting the wrong file descriptor |
| 13:41.10 | chaica | snif snof, personne pour me conseiller une bonne cl? usb wifi 802.11g ? |
| 13:41.11 | k-man_ | Guerin, i don't think so as when i redirect, i see nothing on the screen |
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| 13:41.20 | Guerin | k-man_: hrm, righto |
| 13:41.28 | Guerin | k-man_: tee? |
| 13:41.29 | greycat | k-man_: does | head -10 work? |
| 13:41.53 | k-man_ | greycat, no |
| 13:41.57 | defcon8 | what is a channel about medical stuff here? |
| 13:41.57 | k-man_ | nothing happens |
| 13:42.05 | defcon8 | its just that i got my ear pierced and i need to ask some stuff |
| 13:42.07 | greycat | probably a buffering issue |
| 13:42.21 | k-man_ | greycat, hmmm... |
| 13:42.22 | Guerin | defcon8: just leave it alone and keep it clean |
| 13:42.26 | Guerin | it won't kill you |
| 13:42.40 | defcon8 | yeah but like when can i change it and stuff |
| 13:42.41 | greycat | k-man_: wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFaq#faq9 |
| 13:42.43 | defcon8 | and how to clean it |
| 13:43.05 | Guerin | defcon8: your friendly mutilator didn't tell you this? |
| 13:43.38 | defcon8 | umm well he told me to put cream and shit on it when showering and im aloud to change after 10 days |
| 13:43.52 | Guerin | so what more do you need to know? |
| 13:44.02 | greycat | Does rxvt have anything equivalent to xterm's ttyModes resource? |
| 13:44.11 | greycat | Or does aterm have such a thing? |
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| 13:44.25 | Guerin | wound care 101: if it weeps, cover it; if you can't cover it, put cream on it to seal it off. If it doesn't weep, keep it clean and leave it alone. |
| 13:44.32 | defcon8 | like am i meant to clean it |
| 13:44.42 | Guerin | absolutely |
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| 13:44.54 | Guerin | if you don't clean it, it'll get skanky |
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| 13:45.17 | juanja | hello |
| 13:45.22 | hound | is there something like a boostrap virtual package? |
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| 13:46.24 | incorrect | if i did ProxyPass / http://x.x.x.x would the virtual host of the current machine be transmited to x.x.x.x ? |
| 13:46.46 | incorrect | or would it just try and connect to the raw ip address? |
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| 13:47.04 | defcon8 | Guerin, do i clean it within 10 days? |
| 13:47.08 | Gavrila | cups denies to every user (root also) the right to delete jobs, does anyone know where to look at? |
| 13:47.13 | tk-2 | whats a good ftp software to run with apache 4 websites etc |
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| 13:47.19 | Guerin | defcon8: clean it daily |
| 13:47.30 | Guerin | tk-2: lftp |
| 13:47.37 | defcon8 | but it really hurts when i touch it |
| 13:47.37 | dimir | hound: did you mean debootstrap package? |
| 13:47.40 | defcon8 | and how to clean it |
| 13:47.44 | Guerin | !best ftp client is lftp |
| 13:47.44 | dpkg | i already had it that way, Guerin |
| 13:47.54 | Guerin | defcon8: warm water, mild disinfectant |
| 13:47.59 | Guerin | !botsnack |
| 13:48.05 | k-man_ | hmmm.. its deffinately a buffer problem i think |
| 13:48.05 | defcon8 | would oxygenated water do? |
| 13:48.06 | frem | my /var/lib/dpkg/avalable file is corrupt. How would I regererate it? |
| 13:48.09 | Guerin | defcon8: no |
| 13:48.11 | defcon8 | or tenture d'iyote? |
| 13:48.22 | Guerin | frem: dselect --update |
| 13:48.40 | juanja | identify |
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| 13:49.03 | defcon8 | ok i googled |
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| 13:49.06 | frem | Guerin: Thanks. :-) |
| 13:49.08 | hound | dimir, I'm trying to reinstall debian without breaking everything that's there. |
| 13:49.13 | Guerin | frem: --update might be wrong, actually |
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| 13:49.23 | hound | i just want to revert the basic debian back to how it was |
| 13:49.25 | Guerin | frem: man dselect will tell you |
| 13:49.31 | Guerin | hound: reinstall |
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| 13:49.53 | frem | Guerin: It was "update". But now that I know what progrm does it, i'm fine. |
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| 13:50.22 | Guerin | or read the debootstrap scripts, see what packages it calls in, and remove all the others with a nifty awk line |
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| 13:51.18 | k-man_ | anyone know of a tool that can monitor a dvb tv channel and report on the error rates and signal to noise ratio? |
| 13:51.24 | nvz | well happy birtday to me :) |
| 13:51.36 | Guerin | nvz: i see you're drunk already |
| 13:51.37 | nvz | its a shame going to work is the most exciting thing I have to do |
| 13:51.42 | ServerList | how to force unmount |
| 13:51.45 | Guerin | oh :( |
| 13:51.48 | Guerin | ServerList: -f |
| 13:51.50 | nvz | na I drank all my alcohol over the weekend |
| 13:51.58 | greycat | ServerList: with a shotgun |
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| 13:52.11 | hound | lol |
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| 13:52.38 | ServerList | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.38 | ServerList | umount2: Device or resource busy |
| 13:52.38 | ServerList | umount: /mnt/hdd-ext3: device is bus |
| 13:52.41 | nvz | besides I am 22 now, the alcohol b-day was last year |
| 13:52.42 | ServerList | anyother way |
| 13:52.52 | Guerin | ServerList: make the device not busy |
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| 13:53.28 | Guerin | ServerList: find out what's using it, with lsof or fuser, or use umount -l if you're happy to risk whatever's open being corrupted |
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| 13:53.37 | Guerin | unwise if you don't know what's open |
| 13:53.41 | tk-2 | how do u open lftp when its installed |
| 13:53.51 | Guerin | tk-2: 'lftp' |
| 13:53.56 | Guerin | tk-2: in a shell |
| 13:54.14 | greycat | you don't open programs. |
| 13:54.25 | greycat | they're airtight, hermetically sealed for your protection |
| 13:54.31 | tk-2 | is this a client or server |
| 13:54.31 | greycat | if you open them, the magic smoke escapes |
| 13:54.37 | Guerin | client |
| 13:54.37 | greycat | tk-2: apt-cache show lftp |
| 13:54.40 | stew | huff the magic smoke! |
| 13:54.42 | nvz | heh |
| 13:54.43 | Gavrila | tk-2: is a client |
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| 13:54.49 | greycat | tk-2: man lftp |
| 13:55.07 | tk-2 | ah i want sum server software 2 go with apache etc any recormendations |
| 13:55.20 | greycat | tk-2: learn how to read. then learn how to write english. |
| 13:55.22 | greycat | that's my recommendation. |
| 13:55.28 | Guerin | tk-2: thas not what u asked 4 lol |
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| 13:56.33 | defcon8 | right i need sea water |
| 13:56.41 | tk-2 | no need 2 be cocky greycat im fkin nakerd wiv like 2 hrs sleep in the last 48hrs |
| 13:56.42 | defcon8 | twice a day on my ear but i guess salty water would do |
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| 13:56.52 | Guerin | tk-2: thx 4 sharin d00d |
| 13:57.10 | ServerList | Guerin: how to fix curropted files |
| 13:57.18 | greycat | ServerList: rm |
| 13:57.31 | Guerin | ServerList: don't allow them to become corrupted in the first place; restore from backups |
| 13:57.31 | ServerList | shuddup greycat |
| 13:57.36 | Guerin | in order of ease |
| 13:57.38 | streuner | haha |
| 13:57.42 | Guerin | ServerList: he's right |
| 13:57.54 | Guerin | tk-2: vsftpd |
| 13:58.03 | xiptos | Hi all! Just a question... does anybody have problems (full crash) with firefox and flash? |
| 13:58.04 | ServerList | Guerin: well see i was dl something from bittorrent but i had to do a hard boot because of porn |
| 13:58.06 | streuner | ServerList: delete those files and re-install |
| 13:58.07 | Guerin | tk-2: warning: setting up a ftpd requires the ability to read |
| 13:58.14 | Ice_e | one problem regarding a newly compiled kernel - no internet connection - any ideas - eth1 came up correctly thoug |
| 13:58.17 | ServerList | how do i fix those bittorent files |
| 13:58.18 | Guerin | ServerList: gutted |
| 13:58.19 | greycat | setting up an ftpd requires brain damage |
| 13:58.30 | Guerin | ServerList: delete them and download them again |
| 13:58.39 | greycat | unless you have a VERY specific reason for it, such as "I want anonymous FTP users to be able to send me warez" |
| 13:58.59 | dimir | I thought they speak correct English in England :-) |
| 13:59.07 | streuner | Guerin: sounds like my echo :-) |
| 13:59.12 | Guerin | greycat: heh, that's exactly why i run a ftpd ... except it's not for warez, it's for tv broadcasts |
| 13:59.19 | Guerin | streuner: right |
| 13:59.23 | greycat | Guerin: close enough :) |
| 13:59.25 | idnar | greycat: the problem is, there aren't any great protocols for uploading stuff |
| 13:59.30 | stew | greycat: i setup teh ftp, plz send me w4rez |
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| 13:59.46 | Guerin | greycat: when they broadcast anything decent on tv in korea, i'll gladly watch it :) |
| 13:59.46 | ServerList | what |
| 13:59.46 | greycat | stew: they create such funny directory names, too. |
| 13:59.51 | idnar | greycat: ssh-based stuff is painfully slow if you don't have great processing power on hand |
| 13:59.53 | ServerList | that is a nono for me |
| 14:00.04 | ServerList | see i got those file up for 3 days |
| 14:00.10 | ServerList | i just dont wanna delete em |
| 14:00.21 | Guerin | ServerList: so let me get this straight |
| 14:00.22 | streuner | ServerList: oh well |
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| 14:00.34 | Guerin | ServerList: you had to hard reboot your debian box because of porn? |
| 14:00.34 | tosh | anyone know if there is any other possibility than evolution exchange connector to get mail from an exchange server? |
| 14:00.47 | Guerin | tosh: outlook? |
| 14:00.54 | NublaII | have you tried imap? |
| 14:00.54 | Guerin | <heh> |
| 14:01.01 | NublaII | depends how i´t's configured... |
| 14:01.07 | ServerList | yes |
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| 14:01.16 | tosh | Guerin outlook is a no-no :) |
| 14:01.18 | ServerList | i was gonna watch porn |
| 14:01.25 | ServerList | o just had to do hard boot |
| 14:01.25 | Guerin | ServerList: musta been some nasty porn |
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| 14:01.32 | Guerin | tosh: so should exchange be |
| 14:01.38 | ServerList | its a mouse fucks a giant spider |
| 14:01.41 | tosh | I need more than imap... meetings, shared calender, etc |
| 14:01.48 | xiptos | No one has crashes with firefox and flash? |
| 14:02.00 | larsie | Nah |
| 14:02.00 | Guerin | xiptos: no one hasn't |
| 14:02.03 | larsie | Firefox rules |
| 14:02.07 | larsie | :---D |
| 14:02.13 | Gavrila | ServerList: lol |
| 14:02.14 | Valen | tosh check Hel Club Pony Gir |
| 14:02.16 | NublaII | then no... I don't know of anything else that provides that much 'integration' |
| 14:02.18 | LSorensen | tosh: so go buy something commercial. |
| 14:02.19 | Valen | bah stupid paste thing |
| 14:02.19 | stew | tosh: there is no way to do shared calendar without talking mapi to exchange which means outlook or exchnage connector |
| 14:02.23 | xiptos | Guerin: excelent! what am I doing wrong? :) |
| 14:02.26 | LSorensen | tosh: or write one. |
| 14:02.32 | Valen | tosh, rather http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ |
| 14:02.40 | Guerin | xiptos: running flash. |
| 14:02.40 | Valen | looks to integrate with exchange somewhat |
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| 14:02.56 | xiptos | Guerin: lol! |
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| 14:03.10 | LSorensen | xiptos: flash plugin on linux is THAT badly written |
| 14:03.10 | streuner | ServerList: you don't get any answers in #slackware or #gentoo? |
| 14:03.23 | Guerin | xiptos: i said 'no one han't' - meaning 'nobody who uses flash and firefox is exempt from crashiness because flash is a worthless piece of shit' |
| 14:03.24 | tosh | valen thanks |
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| 14:03.52 | xiptos | Guerin: right... that's what I thought... |
| 14:04.08 | xiptos | LSorensen: with opera (ugh) it works fine... |
| 14:04.16 | davi__ | What package to install the pthread man pages ? |
| 14:04.17 | stew | Valen: open-xchange doens't integrate with exchange, it is trying to replace it |
| 14:04.22 | LSorensen | xiptos: ehm, no opera blows up frequently on me too when using flash |
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| 14:04.29 | abrotman | LSorensen: which version? |
| 14:04.32 | LSorensen | davi__: the -dev man pages I think |
| 14:04.38 | LSorensen | abrotman: all of them I have tried |
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| 14:04.47 | abrotman | LSorensen: i've been using it with flash for a while .. but i use the flash from macromedia .. not the debian package |
| 14:04.52 | LSorensen | abrotman: haven't had 8.02 long enough to know if it blows up to |
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| 14:04.58 | chocoIate | hi |
| 14:04.59 | xiptos | LSorensen: well, I usually don't use opera a lot... only when firefox crashes... ;) |
| 14:05.07 | LSorensen | abrotman: I use the marilatt package of the macromedia flash (I think). |
| 14:05.09 | abrotman | LSorensen: i have seen where flash makes it use a ton of CPU .. but not crash it |
| 14:05.23 | abrotman | LSorensen: hrm .. maybe that's the difference? .. though it seems unlikely |
| 14:05.29 | davi__ | thanks LSorensen |
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| 14:05.45 | abrotman | !beer me |
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| 14:06.01 | chocoIate | i run debian sarge and all of a sudden after 2 months gedit stops to function. I reboot my pc and i cant login into gnome desktop anymore. It displays the message about gnome-panel failure everytime i try to boot in gnome |
| 14:06.08 | chocoIate | anybody got ideas ? |
| 14:06.14 | LSorensen | chocoIate: disk full? |
| 14:06.35 | LSorensen | chocoIate: disk failure? |
| 14:06.39 | tk-2 | anyone done that freeipod thing? |
| 14:06.42 | Guerin | chocoIate: what changed? |
| 14:06.45 | chocoIate | how do i check, though i dont think its the disk being full. I am able to login via kde by the way |
| 14:06.48 | hound | chocoIate, whenever gedit stops working for me it turns out famd went haywire |
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| 14:07.09 | hound | no idea about gnome-panel |
| 14:07.34 | chocoIate | should i just remove the gedit package through kde and try ? |
| 14:07.44 | kurtak | Curious - I'd like to try out some sound production in linux, and i'm compiling a custom kernel for debian.. Would it be okay NOT to include OSS (and all the support under that) in the kernel? I should be using ALSA exclusively |
| 14:08.02 | chocoIate | maybe try to remove the gnome-panel package and reinstall it, would that help any ? |
| 14:08.02 | tk-2 | anyone know any ftpclients gui based? |
| 14:08.10 | Guerin | tk-2: gftp |
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| 14:08.28 | tk-2 | thx guerin |
| 14:08.40 | tk-2 | im new to linux anyway like first 3 days |
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| 14:09.12 | larsie | nice |
| 14:09.13 | larsie | :---) |
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| 14:09.40 | nvz | perhaps its linux that is new to you. |
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| 14:11.26 | hound | AH! I fixed it. Somehow I got a root dir that was 750 |
| 14:11.31 | hound | what a pain |
| 14:11.32 | nvz | I wonder if I should cook something before I go to work. got some green beans and carrots in the fridge ... mmmm |
| 14:11.38 | hound | who does such a thing |
| 14:11.58 | nvz | root apperently |
| 14:11.58 | Theoretic | tk-2: I dont think debian is good for beginners. |
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| 14:12.07 | hound | :) |
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| 14:12.38 | tk-2 | ah well its bit 2 late now |
| 14:12.49 | Guerin | bah |
| 14:12.53 | Guerin | debian is fine for beginners |
| 14:12.57 | vivek | why is not good ? |
| 14:13.02 | LSorensen | Theoretic: I think debian is good for everyone |
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| 14:13.18 | Guerin | it's good because it doesn't trick beginners into thinking they can stay beginners for ever |
| 14:13.22 | vivek | debian and slackware are nice for beginners ;0 |
| 14:13.23 | LSorensen | Theoretic: might as well leran the right way to do things right away rather than learn bad habits from some of the other distributions |
| 14:13.33 | LSorensen | vivek: slackware just plain isn't nice |
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| 14:13.41 | Guerin | yup |
| 14:13.42 | dabaR | and what later, then? |
| 14:13.43 | tech9iner | thingfish hey buuuuuuuddie!! ;] |
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| 14:13.53 | Guerin | that whole 'no package management' thing hurts |
| 14:13.55 | nvz | slackware definatly isnt for slackers |
| 14:13.56 | thingfish | hey tech9iner, whassup |
| 14:13.58 | tech9iner | dat notify bits kinda handy pal ;] |
| 14:14.04 | thingfish | hehe yeah |
| 14:14.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 609] by debhelper |
| 14:14.13 | Loevborg | argh. how do I make "ls *" see hidden (dot) files also in zsh? |
| 14:14.15 | nvz | talk about manual labor |
| 14:14.19 | LSorensen | nvz: it is if you maintain it |
| 14:14.25 | Loevborg | the man page is woefully unhelpful. |
| 14:14.27 | greycat | Loevborg: in bash, it would be "shopt -s dotglob" |
| 14:14.28 | dabaR | If debian is good for beginners, what after debian then? |
| 14:14.30 | vivek | they have a package management system ... but no dependency management ... |
| 14:14.34 | LSorensen | nvz: but yes it's not for slackers if you run it |
| 14:14.40 | Guerin | dabaR: debian |
| 14:14.40 | tech9iner | iz chattn ya up thingfish over in ?? [u know ;] before realizing notify was from here ;] |
| 14:14.45 | vivek | but you don't need it too often ... |
| 14:14.53 | dabaR | wtf? |
| 14:14.56 | greycat | Loevborg: but why aren't you using "ls -a"? |
| 14:14.57 | Guerin | dabaR: why must there be a different distro? |
| 14:14.58 | vivek | almost every library is carefully packed .... |
| 14:14.59 | LSorensen | dabaR: what more could you need. it's clean, organized, consistent, has lots of help channels for support, and has more packages than anything else available. |
| 14:15.02 | dabaR | ah |
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| 14:15.18 | dabaR | you mean, like first use stable, then rest? or something? i dont get it. |
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| 14:15.28 | dabaR | LSorensen: read their comments above. |
| 14:15.28 | Loevborg | greycat, I want to "mv dir/* ." |
| 14:15.46 | greycat | Loevborg: ah. you lied. :) |
| 14:15.50 | Guerin | dabaR: start with stable, then branch out as you feel ready |
| 14:15.58 | Loevborg | greycat, I simplified things a bit :) |
| 14:16.00 | greycat | anyway, if it's not dotglob in zsh, switch to bash. |
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| 14:16.05 | LSorensen | dabaR: well if you want to develop for debian, you maight want unstable or something, or a chroot with unstable. differnet needs mean different release points of debian. for a server, you would only want stable. for a new user, stable is preferable too |
| 14:16.17 | dabaR | why would I I dont need the apps, anyhow, I think I got your point above, I got here a second too late, so I missed the meaning. |
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| 14:16.30 | SuperCow | anyone here ever use the openssl command? |
| 14:16.36 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 14:16.36 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 14:16.37 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 14:16.40 | greycat | !win Guerin |
| 14:16.40 | dpkg | Congratulations, Guerin! You have won the US presidency! |
| 14:16.44 | SuperCow | for extracting a certificate from a p12 file? |
| 14:16.45 | Orfeous | need help to get squid work.. |
| 14:16.46 | Guerin | not again! |
| 14:16.47 | Ecligprs | haha |
| 14:16.47 | stew | LSorensen: hasn't chrooted unstable from stable gotten all broken by the ABI change? |
| 14:16.48 | LSorensen | dabaR: debian's amazing package quality and package management makes it easy to use for a beginer, and saves lots of hassle and time for the advanced user |
| 14:16.51 | dabaR | bahaha. |
| 14:16.52 | Ecligprs | :D |
| 14:17.00 | greycat | !tell Orfeous about ask |
| 14:17.01 | SuperCow | Because I use "openssl pkcs12 -in exportFile.p12 -out MyCert.pem: and have to copy and paste the last certificate |
| 14:17.05 | SuperCow | must be an easier way |
| 14:17.16 | greycat | !tell Orfeous about /join #squid ;-) |
| 14:17.20 | Guerin | kneet: greycat uses compicated macros |
| 14:17.24 | greycat | Guerin: he does ont. |
| 14:17.25 | LSorensen | stew: debootstrap might need fixing, but the chroot should still work fine once you get it setup. You can just make a stable chroot, and apt-get upgrade it (if you can in fact upgrade to sid at all at the moemnt) |
| 14:17.25 | SuperCow | !tell greycat about tell |
| 14:17.25 | greycat | not. |
| 14:17.29 | Guerin | he never actually types anything original |
| 14:17.35 | Guerin | he just has macros for everything |
| 14:17.35 | greycat | lies! |
| 14:17.40 | dabaR | no< I know whyu use debian, I use it... I just read what you guys were saying above, and missed the start of gthe conversation, so I missed some points. |
| 14:17.43 | Guerin | that's how come he's so fast |
| 14:17.45 | kneet | Start a regulars war? |
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| 14:17.58 | Guerin | see, he even has one for lies! |
| 14:18.01 | Orfeous | greycat: haha |
| 14:18.07 | Guerin | probably /l or something |
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| 14:18.18 | greycat | if I had a /l it would be for lart |
| 14:18.23 | Guerin | oh |
| 14:18.33 | stew | LSorensen: ok. i just thought i saw someone who might know better than us say something to the effect. these days i just keep one spare machine running sid that I only boot up to do package debugging on, which is much easier, if you have a spare machine... |
| 14:18.37 | SuperCow | so no one uses openssl to get certs from p12 files eh? |
| 14:18.38 | LSorensen | Guerin: some people can type. It makes them able to type out long lines of text in no time. sometimes they even have knowledge and hence can spit that out too in no time, |
| 14:18.44 | SuperCow | drates |
| 14:18.46 | SuperCow | drats |
| 14:18.50 | SuperCow | ah welll |
| 14:18.54 | Guerin | LSorensen: rarely do these two align |
| 14:19.03 | SuperCow | I've searched this man page top to bottom, cannot find what I am looking for |
| 14:19.03 | LSorensen | stew: I think the chroot is easier. that way you can repair it from stable outside the chroot if needed |
| 14:19.14 | Loevborg | greycat, I found it, it's ls *(D) |
| 14:19.15 | LSorensen | Guerin: really? |
| 14:19.21 | LSorensen | Guerin: I have seen a few |
| 14:19.38 | dabaR | with eyes? |
| 14:19.46 | Guerin | LSorensen: judging by the amount of verbal detritus on teh intarwebs and in print, definitely. |
| 14:20.02 | LSorensen | Guerin: well that's different. I meant on these irc help channels. |
| 14:20.05 | kneet | Guerin, I see you don't comment on the detritus here in channel |
| 14:20.19 | Guerin | LSorensen: same applies |
| 14:20.25 | Guerin | kneet: never! |
| 14:21.44 | LSorensen | Loevborg: whatever does that do? |
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| 14:22.19 | kneet | Guerin, I was more interested in the reaction time - not the typing time - by the time I notice someone's said anything then either yourself, or greycat or one of the other regulars has already replied :) |
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| 14:22.53 | LSorensen | kneet: maybe you are lagged |
| 14:23.01 | LSorensen | kneet: and some people read and type very fast |
| 14:23.15 | Ecligprs | I type quite fast but I read very slowly |
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| 14:23.19 | Ecligprs | it's counterproductive |
| 14:23.20 | dabaR | LSorensen: So they are not bots? |
| 14:23.36 | kneet | Don't think I'd dare call greycat a bot ;) |
| 14:23.48 | vivek | Ecligprs: you need to improve your span ;) |
| 14:24.00 | vivek | and read phrases and instead of words |
| 14:24.05 | kneet | Ecligprs, so - can your reading keep up with what you're typing? |
| 14:24.14 | LSorensen | dabaR: amazingly they aren't. sometimes peopel will see a standard question and ask one of the bots to spew the standard answer |
| 14:24.17 | Ecligprs | kneet, usually no |
| 14:24.23 | kneet | :) |
| 14:24.29 | stew | ok, i have a shell server in the closet, i run irc from it via ssh/screen. lately my ssh sessions have been seeming to freeze for 20 seconds or so at a time. seems to happen in times of inactivity. they always come back, but it takes 20 seconds. if i kill the xterm and ssh in again / reattach, the session is responsive immediately. the machine is not swapping or at high load, cant figure out what might be causing it |
| 14:24.30 | Loevborg | LSorensen, turn off GLOB_DOTS for that glob so .vimrc etc. is matched in ls ~(D) |
| 14:24.33 | Ecligprs | well, of course I know what I write since I have to think what I write :) |
| 14:24.47 | Ecligprs | but if I'd read the sentence afterwards, it'd take more time than writing it |
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| 14:25.01 | stew | other wierd stuff... doesn't happen to my wife, whe is using the machine the exact smae way (irc in screen via ssh) |
| 14:25.14 | stew | and it didnt' happen for the week when i was away and sshed in from far away |
| 14:25.23 | avalente | http://ysmv7.sourceforge.net/screenshots/linux/linux_slackware_roger_krowiak.png -> anyone knows the name of the XMMS skin in this screenshot? |
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| 14:26.05 | stew | i guess i should try stracing the sshd when its frozen. anyone have any other bright ideas? |
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| 14:26.32 | streuner | avalente: no email? |
| 14:26.43 | avalente | streuner: nop |
| 14:26.59 | hound | stew, I had a problem like that, ended up being my router |
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| 14:27.13 | avalente | well.. maybe.. thanks* |
| 14:27.26 | hound | shouldn't have piled stuff on top of it I guess, or maybe should have used the right voltage power adapter |
| 14:27.42 | bujin | hello |
| 14:27.47 | streuner | avalente: 1001winampskins.com |
| 14:28.06 | streuner | avalente: there should be some skins which look similar... |
| 14:28.11 | stew | hound: there is no router inbetween here and there |
| 14:28.13 | dabaR | do we look bright stew;) |
| 14:28.30 | bujin | anybody can tell me why php5 isnt available in stable version ? |
| 14:28.40 | greycat | because it's not stable. |
| 14:28.52 | greycat | and more importantly, because it WAS NOT stable at the time stable became stable. |
| 14:28.55 | kneet | greycat - and php4 is? :) |
| 14:28.58 | greycat | and stable means "no new stuff" |
| 14:29.08 | greycat | kneet: it was close enough that it had no open RC bugs |
| 14:29.16 | bujin | ok thanks |
| 14:29.35 | Frem | does anyone know if LinNeighborhood works anymore? When I use it, nothing works and samba spits out usage messages to the terminel. |
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| 14:30.10 | avalente | streuner: do they work with XMMS? |
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| 14:30.52 | Nurbs | "dpkg --forget-old-unavail" doesn't seem to remove anything from /var/lib/dpkg/info, even though some older packages of mine are most certainly purged and no longer available, but still in there. any reasons? can I rebuild the file from scratch? |
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| 14:31.57 | streuner | avalente: not version 3, but version 2 |
| 14:32.12 | avalente | k thanks |
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| 14:35.31 | kreep- | (newbie) hi, I have a debian unstable/testing box, can you tell me how to install some new fonts, and how to set xorg to use them? the default ones are really ugly |
| 14:35.58 | vivek | kreep-: choose fonts from apt-get and install them |
| 14:36.05 | vivek | kreep-: and xfontsel |
| 14:36.11 | stew | kreep-: /msg dpkg font guide |
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| 14:36.41 | nakee | what command remove/adds demons to a run level? |
| 14:37.14 | kreep- | vivek stew thank you |
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| 14:39.16 | bujin | how can i install php4 in apache? |
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| 14:39.39 | kneet | bujin, apache 1 or 2 ? |
| 14:39.53 | avalente | myXMMS :) |
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| 14:40.14 | kneet | bujin, apt-cache search libapache-mod-php should help :) |
| 14:40.28 | outlaw84 | what do I write in fstab on the mounting point for a swap partion? I find "none" or "swap" on the internet but when I try that it tells me that none or swap doesn't exist |
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| 14:42.24 | Orfeous | i want to integrate squid with privoxy |
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| 14:45.10 | bujin | kneet, apache2 |
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| 14:46.01 | kneet | bujin, You'll need the php packages and the apache2 php module installed then |
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| 14:46.20 | bujin | is php5 stable enough ? |
| 14:46.31 | kneet | Only used 4. |
| 14:46.31 | tdela | ahh i had to do it all from source yesterday |
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| 14:46.47 | tdela | took hours to clean up the mess with php5 |
| 14:46.53 | tdela | use with discretion :p |
| 14:46.58 | Ecligprs | :p |
| 14:47.00 | bujin | hahhaa |
| 14:47.15 | bujin | ill use php4 better |
| 14:47.21 | outlaw84 | what do I write in fstab on the mounting point for a swap partion? I find "none" or "swap" on the internet but when I try that it tells me that none or swap doesn't exist |
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| 14:48.54 | Loevborg | outlaw84, /dev/hda6 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 14:49.07 | Loevborg | outlaw84, is what I have |
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| 14:50.02 | outlaw84 | I tryed that... but when I run mount /dev/hda6 it says that none doesn't exist |
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| 14:50.49 | outlaw84 | :/ |
| 14:51.17 | Orfeous | hmm |
| 14:51.18 | Loevborg | outlaw84, If I'm not mistaken, you don't "mount" swap partitions but use "swapon" |
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| 14:51.53 | arcane | What is the correct way to populate my NIS tables with data from my local files? |
| 14:51.55 | peppo | is there a guide somewhere for making the step to UTF8 in Debian? |
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| 14:53.06 | abrotman | !utf |
| 14:53.09 | abrotman | !utf8 |
| 14:53.09 | dpkg | [utf8] how the Perl people spell UTF-8. See also <UTF-8>. |
| 14:53.12 | abrotman | heh |
| 14:53.22 | peppo | !unicode |
| 14:53.23 | dpkg | [unicode] THE DEVIL! |
| 14:53.33 | abrotman | !tell peppo about utf-8 |
| 14:53.47 | arcane | !nis |
| 14:53.48 | dpkg | i guess nis is the Network Information System. It can be used to distribute files across networks. It is commonly used to maintain staff directories and files like /etc/group. Many sysadmins hate it because it is insecure. See also NFS.. Network Information Service, or http://www.levenez.com/NeXTSTEP/Xedoc.gif |
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| 14:54.16 | RvGaTe | !etherwake |
| 14:54.17 | outlaw84 | !vfat |
| 14:54.17 | dpkg | i heard vfat is a very fat 32 bit version of a pathetic filesystem, or apt-get install dosfstools, then man mkfs.vfat, or for info on getting write access for regular users, "/msg apt vfatrw" |
| 14:54.30 | RvGaTe | wtf, no !etherwake? |
| 14:54.32 | roods | is there anyway in csh to figure out what the name of the file that is running is |
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| 14:54.41 | abrotman | man csh ? |
| 14:54.44 | samuel | does anyone know what the standard PXE boot port is? i have found 4011 and 69 in several places, so im not sure what one to use? |
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| 14:54.58 | stew | roods: echo $0 ? |
| 14:55.00 | arcane | Anyone in here that runs NIS? Need help on how to populate my NIS tables. Thank you! |
| 14:55.02 | Loevborg | roods, is it not $0? |
| 14:55.04 | abrotman | samuel: i tihnk it's commonly referred to as the TFTP port |
| 14:55.05 | greycat | in *csh*? |
| 14:55.08 | outlaw84 | !ntfs |
| 14:55.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 14:55.13 | peppo | thanks abrotman! this is for a friend, he'll appreciate it |
| 14:55.24 | abrotman | peppo: and if he doesn't .. don't tell him i gave it to you |
| 14:55.25 | samuel | abrotman, thanks ill look for that |
| 14:55.43 | outlaw84 | !ext3 |
| 14:55.43 | dpkg | from memory, ext3 is the One True Filesystem. If you have to ask what filesystem you should be using, use ext3. Ask me about "ext2->ext3", "xfs" and "ricerfs". |
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| 14:56.01 | peppo | :) |
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| 14:56.05 | roods | thanks col that works |
| 14:56.41 | roods | s/col/cool/ |
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| 14:56.46 | xfan | it's reiserfs |
| 14:56.54 | imgrey | SYN all |
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| 14:58.07 | stew | RST |
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| 14:58.32 | roods | is there a chan for debian on the ppc? |
| 14:58.42 | stew | roods: #debianppc |
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| 14:59.49 | JeffC | how do I install drivers for an Nvidia card? |
| 15:00.09 | LSorensen | JeffC: www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/ has a howto |
| 15:00.15 | ufoalien | JeffC: with google! |
| 15:00.31 | JeffC | google has yielded nothing that works |
| 15:00.33 | foXclone | can someone tell me a program to monitor dhcp deamon with? Such as which ip's are given out etc. |
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| 15:00.45 | LSorensen | foXclone: view the log and the leases file? |
| 15:00.49 | foXclone | srry for my bad english |
| 15:01.31 | foXclone | LSorensen : there isn't a tool to view this realtime or maybe webbased? |
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| 15:01.58 | greycat | foXclone: "cat logfile" is pretty realtime. |
| 15:02.06 | LSorensen | foXclone: no clue, never had a need for more than tail -f logfile |
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| 15:02.33 | foXclone | ah ok just wondering thx alot |
| 15:02.41 | JeffC | when i try to save my sources.list it I get a message saying "cannot save file" |
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| 15:03.13 | abrotman | are you root? |
| 15:03.35 | LSorensen | JeffC: as abrotman said |
| 15:03.44 | LSorensen | : file system mounted rw? |
| 15:04.11 | JeffC | the files writeable |
| 15:04.44 | greycat | JeffC: type "id" and paste the output |
| 15:04.48 | LSorensen | JeffC: run 'id' and see who you are currently logged in as |
| 15:05.02 | JeffC | root root root |
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| 15:05.19 | LSorensen | JeffC: and cat /proc/mounts shows your root filesystem as rw? |
| 15:05.32 | LSorensen | JeffC: and what is the excact message if gives when you try to save? |
| 15:05.39 | LSorensen | JeffC: and which editor? |
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| 15:06.00 | outlaw84 | I am considering to switch to xorg.. lets says stuff fails how hard is it to get XFree86 back working? |
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| 15:06.35 | JeffC | that did it tried a different editor |
| 15:06.37 | LSorensen | outlaw84: which version of debian? |
| 15:06.40 | Guerin | outlaw84: if you need to ask, too hard |
| 15:06.42 | outlaw84 | sid |
| 15:06.48 | greycat | outlaw84: they use different config files, so it shouldn't be hard. |
| 15:06.50 | LSorensen | JeffC: so which editor sucked? |
| 15:06.55 | JeffC | text editor |
| 15:06.58 | LSorensen | outlaw84: doesn't sid use x.org by default now? |
| 15:07.06 | Guerin | it does |
| 15:07.23 | JeffC | oh uhm |
| 15:07.32 | JeffC | Athlon XP 2500+ what kernel should I be using? |
| 15:07.38 | greycat | -k7 |
| 15:07.46 | LSorensen | JeffC: -k7 |
| 15:07.47 | JeffC | good it's downloading atm |
| 15:07.59 | outlaw84 | greycat: is there like a file where I can chose to use XFree86 or x.org or how does it work with those files you mentioned |
| 15:08.08 | Guerin | outlaw84: no |
| 15:08.31 | Guerin | outlaw84: and xorg usesmaterially the same config file as xfree, it's just called something different |
| 15:08.31 | outlaw84 | LSorensen: not the installation I have got |
| 15:08.47 | JeffC | is there any way to drop your xwindows session and have another user sign in with x? |
| 15:08.51 | Guerin | outlaw84: then it's not sid, or it's not recently updated |
| 15:08.54 | JeffC | while keeping yours signed in |
| 15:09.06 | Guerin | JeffC: run another x session |
| 15:09.22 | vincent__ | anyone have sucess getting xinerama working with an ati card ? |
| 15:09.28 | JeffC | I guess I should be googling "multiple X sessions" lol |
| 15:09.45 | outlaw84 | Guerin: I didn't use base-config to install graphical enviroment |
| 15:09.54 | Guerin | outlaw84: so? |
| 15:09.58 | LSorensen | outlaw84: did you upgrade recently? |
| 15:10.09 | outlaw84 | thats why I got XFree |
| 15:10.14 | greycat | outlaw84: if you have to ask these questions, sid's not for you. |
| 15:10.18 | greycat | outlaw84: ls -l /etc/X11 |
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| 15:10.24 | outlaw84 | I do dist-upgrades all the time |
| 15:10.34 | greycat | that's VERY bad. |
| 15:10.36 | Guerin | outlaw84: no, you're not using sid, that's why you got xfree |
| 15:10.43 | Guerin | and you know what ... that's for the better |
| 15:10.43 | LSorensen | outlaw84: well my sid install upgraded to x.org a few weeks ago as far as I could tell |
| 15:10.47 | greycat | if you upgrade EVERYTHING at once, and something breaks, how do you know which package it was that caused it? |
| 15:11.02 | LSorensen | outlaw84: of course I have x-window-system meta package installed |
| 15:11.02 | Guerin | there is no xfree86 in sid any more, aiui |
| 15:11.23 | Guerin | bah, bedtime |
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| 15:11.38 | samuel | is there any way to access a different network interface from firefox for a webpage? ive got one network interface for the internet, and a different one for a switch and a small network... i just want to access a page in the other interface - or do i need to change the gateway to do that? |
| 15:11.42 | outlaw84 | greycat: I run the command... what part where we looking for? |
| 15:11.53 | Angel-SL | is there java for Linux |
| 15:11.55 | Angel-SL | eh |
| 15:11.57 | Angel-SL | debian |
| 15:11.58 | greycat | outlaw84: the part where you turn on your brain and figure out how the X server is invoked |
| 15:12.02 | greycat | !sid faq |
| 15:12.03 | dpkg | from memory, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 15:12.15 | LSorensen | samuel: applications don't worry about routing, they just go to the ip address based on the routing table |
| 15:12.29 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - how can i find out how the apache2 package was built for etch? |
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| 15:12.42 | greycat | Super_Cat_Frog: /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 15:12.43 | outlaw84 | by the Xsession file I think |
| 15:12.46 | LSorensen | samuel: if your small switched network uses 192.168.0.* for it's IPs, going to http://192.168.0.1 would work for the machine wiht that ip |
| 15:12.49 | stew | Angel-SL: /msg dpkg java (as it says in the topic) |
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| 15:13.17 | abrotman | Super_Cat_Frog: in the rules file |
| 15:13.19 | Psyllo | hi, kennt sich jemand mit unrealircd aus? |
| 15:13.25 | abrotman | Super_Cat_Frog: in the source package i mean |
| 15:13.26 | abrotman | !de |
| 15:13.27 | Ecligprs | this is somehow funny |
| 15:13.27 | dpkg | methinks de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 15:13.33 | Angel-SL | outlaw84, u want to start the xserver? startx |
| 15:13.33 | Psyllo | ok |
| 15:13.35 | abrotman | !u |
| 15:13.36 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:13.48 | Ecligprs | my laptops clock stops when I close the screen |
| 15:14.05 | outlaw84 | Angel-SL: thats not what we are talking about |
| 15:14.07 | LSorensen | Ecligprs: the clock? |
| 15:14.15 | LSorensen | Ecligprs: real time clock, cpu clock, what? |
| 15:14.16 | Super_Cat_Frog | thanks greycat, abrotman |
| 15:14.19 | ^Mephisto^ | anyone knows what's wrong with this line of c code: |
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| 15:14.27 | ^Mephisto^ | net?net->logs:other_logs = NULL; |
| 15:14.32 | abrotman | uhm .. #c ? |
| 15:14.43 | Ecligprs | LSorensen, well, my clock is ~20minutes late now |
| 15:15.00 | ^Mephisto^ | oh cool, such a channel actually exists :P |
| 15:15.17 | stew | ^Mephisto^: net?net->logs:other_logs is not an LVALUE |
| 15:15.19 | abrotman | ^Mephisto^: /list is helpful eh? |
| 15:15.30 | ^Mephisto^ | yeah, thats what gcc4 says... |
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| 15:15.48 | LSorensen | Ecligprs: maybe the system suspended |
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| 15:16.09 | stew | ^Mephisto^: perhaps you want parantheses around (other_logs = NULL) |
| 15:16.09 | samuel | LSorensen, thanks! |
| 15:16.15 | Ecligprs | it shouldn't stop the clock :< |
| 15:16.26 | ^Mephisto^ | ah thx i'll try that |
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| 15:16.30 | LSorensen | Ecligprs: the system time (not the hardware clock) is based on the cpu running |
| 15:16.31 | xoz | Ecligprs: you are travelling too fast |
| 15:16.55 | Ecligprs | that's stupid |
| 15:16.58 | LSorensen | Ecligprs: if the sytem doesn't know if got suspended or slowed down or whatever, then the clock will be wrong. if it knows about it, it fixes it. |
| 15:17.03 | Ecligprs | I need to run ntpdate everytime |
| 15:17.09 | stew | ^Mephisto^: that will make it compile, but i don't know what your desired behaviour actually is |
| 15:17.12 | LSorensen | Ecligprs: yes having laptops suspend by default when you close the lid is very stupid |
| 15:17.15 | abrotman | no .. you know what's stupid .. RPN languages that don't have formal loop structures |
| 15:17.41 | LSorensen | Ecligprs: of course if you setup the machine fully to deal with suspending, it would work fine |
| 15:17.51 | Ecligprs | maybe later :) |
| 15:17.59 | ^Mephisto^ | i dont know what its supposed to do either, its not my code ;) |
| 15:18.07 | ^Mephisto^ | its just something gcc4 complained about |
| 15:18.10 | Angel-SL | :/ |
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| 15:19.29 | xoz | ^Mephisto^: what's the error? |
| 15:19.47 | ^Mephisto^ | log.c:151: error: invalid lvalue in assignment |
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| 15:20.00 | ^Mephisto^ | the binary seems to work tho |
| 15:20.08 | ^Mephisto^ | with the () that is |
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| 15:20.40 | TTimo | hello. is it possible to configure network interfaces to use dhcp, but not modify /etc/resolv.conf at all ? |
| 15:20.55 | greg_work | before i write one, anyone know a script that'll extract the last 5 minutes of a log file? (trying to do some stats for graphing) |
| 15:21.05 | zinx | TTimo: yeah, edit the dhcp scripts |
| 15:21.08 | TTimo | I have a carefully hand crafter resolv.conf that works for several interfaces in the machine, and whenever dhcp goes up I loose it |
| 15:21.20 | TTimo | well I haven't found any dhcp scripts per se |
| 15:21.25 | greycat | TTimo: man dhclient.conf (or so I've heard) |
| 15:21.27 | TTimo | I look at dhclient.conf |
| 15:21.32 | stew | TTimo: yes, man dhclient.conf (or pump.conf if you use that), or copy your desired resolv.conf over the dhcp one with an up line in interfaces (man interfaces) |
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| 15:21.45 | TTimo | and removed some of the stuff you request from the dhcp info |
| 15:21.50 | TTimo | but it still erases resolv.conf |
| 15:21.57 | TTimo | only now it sets it empty |
| 15:22.04 | zinx | TTimo: /etc/dhclient-script |
| 15:22.05 | greg_work | TTimo: make a /sbin/resolvconf |
| 15:22.13 | Frem | i'm trying to install the 2.6 kernel, but i get a 'failed to create initrd image' every time I try to install. |
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| 15:22.27 | stew | TTimo: you are using supercede directives in dhclient.conf? |
| 15:22.34 | zinx | TTimo: and.. looks like it uses resolvconf :/ |
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| 15:22.58 | zinx | TTimo: so as greg_work said |
| 15:23.06 | greg_work | TTimo: /etc/dhclient-script checks for that file and runs it to generate the resolv.conf, and if it doesn't exist, it creates its own. i have one thats empty (so it doesn't run) but it also means it doesnt touch resolv.conf |
| 15:23.17 | TTimo | oh ok |
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| 15:23.23 | TTimo | yeah that's exactly what I'm looking for |
| 15:23.24 | TTimo | thanks |
| 15:23.38 | cddesjar | does opera run faster than firefox? |
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| 15:23.42 | greycat | cddesjar: try and see. |
| 15:23.59 | cddesjar | well i don't want to download opera if it's a piece of shit |
| 15:24.04 | kurtak | Hello- So I get this error- and since the version number comes from the patch i used, how can i change the version number to all lower case?? /usr/share/kernel-package/rules:878: *** Error. The version number 2.6.13-rc4-RT-V0.7.52-14 is not all lowercase. Since the version ends up in the package name of the kernel image package, this is a Debian policy violation, and the packaging system shall refuse to package the image. . Stop. |
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| 15:24.20 | Coke | Hello all. I have an nforce2 motherboard and I'm about to compile sensor support for it, yet I don't know which driver to use for nforce2. Which one should I use or how can I find out? |
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| 15:25.51 | Gavrila | anyone knows how to change job management permissions in cups? |
| 15:26.10 | LSorensen | Coke: nforce2 doesn't have a sensor chip that I know of. It would be motherboard specific |
| 15:26.20 | TTimo | Gavrila, I would think that can all be done through the web interface |
| 15:26.25 | cahoot | Gavrila: add user to lpadmin |
| 15:26.38 | greycat | 2.6.13-rc4-RT-V0.7.52-14 |
| 15:26.41 | greycat | what a version number. |
| 15:26.48 | greg_work | can you define the same thing twice in syslog.conf? ie, mail.* /var/log/maillog mail.* /var/log/maillog2 |
| 15:26.56 | kurtak | greycat: no kidding |
| 15:26.58 | asg | greg_work: yes |
| 15:26.58 | xfan | cddesjar : Opera is between Firefox and IE |
| 15:27.02 | Gavrila | cahoot: is it a group? and how to set that each user could cancel his own jobs? |
| 15:27.09 | greg_work | asg: thanks |
| 15:27.12 | cahoot | greycat: iirc make-kpkg dosen't like the versals |
| 15:28.44 | greycat | good thing debian includes text editors, then. |
| 15:29.21 | Gavrila | cahoot: just to understand it better; if lpadmin is a group, why isn't root enabled to mange jobs? |
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| 15:29.33 | kurtak | greycat: so i'll just grep everything under the top level of my source... unless you have any other suggestions... |
| 15:29.39 | kurtak | ahh, autoconf.h |
| 15:29.48 | kreep- | clear |
| 15:29.56 | kreep- | ooops :) |
| 15:29.59 | kreep- | sorry |
| 15:30.06 | cahoot | Gavrila: then soemthing seems fundamentally wrong |
| 15:30.25 | Gavrila | cahoot: that's why I'm looking for help :)) |
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| 15:30.37 | Gavrila | have you got any clue? |
| 15:30.41 | greg_work | i want a log with only the last 5 minutes of data in it (i only need it once on 5 minute intervals).. what's the best way to get that? a script that extracts it from the actual log (had one in awk, but its flawed, only works if there's an entry EXACTLY 5 minutes ago), |
| 15:31.15 | greg_work | or using syslog to log to both places at once, and then logrotate or use cron to delete the second log every 5 minutes? in this case, would I also have to kill -HUP syslog every 5 mins, and is that a problem? |
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| 15:31.35 | cahoot | Gavrila: I'd take a close look at cupsd.conf |
| 15:32.16 | Gavrila | cahoot: I tried to and read the man too but I don't seem to find any problem |
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| 15:33.03 | jefe486 | Hi; I was wondering if someone could explain why after running 'apt-get install fortune' and installing, bash tells me the command is not found? Am I missing something(I'm trying to make the server a little more interesting:)) |
| 15:33.04 | Gavrila | AuthType Basic |
| 15:33.04 | Gavrila | AuthClass User |
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| 15:33.20 | greycat | jefe486: /usr/games/fortune |
| 15:33.23 | Gavrila | in the section Location /jobs i have AuthType Basic and AuthClass User |
| 15:33.24 | greycat | probably not in your PATH |
| 15:33.36 | jefe486 | greycat: its in there... |
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| 15:34.10 | greycat | echo $PATH |
| 15:34.13 | N00BJustInst | does any1 here have any experience with Mobile gprs and Debian based distro's |
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| 15:34.25 | greycat | if you're in csh, try rehash or something. |
| 15:34.42 | RvGaTe | !csh |
| 15:34.43 | dpkg | csh is probably http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ or BSD's standard shell, and very useful, or perverse, or considered harmful |
| 15:34.43 | jefe486 | strange... I su'ed into a regular user and it runs fine... just can't run as root |
| 15:34.44 | jefe486 | lol |
| 15:34.59 | FieldySnuts | ~start a shell war |
| 15:35.00 | apt | csh owns bsh |
| 15:35.00 | greycat | jefe486: duh. |
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| 15:35.14 | jefe486 | bash could pwn you j00bs |
| 15:35.16 | greycat | root does not have /usr/games in his shell. |
| 15:35.23 | FieldySnuts | yes, it could. in resource consumption. |
| 15:35.26 | jefe486 | greycat: ya I just remembered that:S |
| 15:35.34 | jefe486 | FiedlySnuts: nice, lol |
| 15:36.41 | kamaraju | When compiling kernels using make-kpkg, Is there any difference between 'fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_image' and 'fakeroot make-kpkg kernel-image'? I read the manual of make-kpkg, but could not find the difference. Some online documentation is using kernel-image while some other websites are using kernel_image? What is the difference between the two? Which is more safer? |
| 15:36.59 | N00BJustInst | i have a prob that sum1 might be able to help me with - i can access the internet via my mobile phone and usb, i am on it now - however - i have to use o2uk's very restrictive proxy, which for some reason won't let me go to any weeb pages in linux - but does in windows - any1 know a solution? 0 it lets me connect to xirc! |
| 15:38.27 | N00BJustInst | please can sum1 help - its driving me insane |
| 15:38.41 | greycat | !sum1 |
| 15:38.41 | dpkg | try someone |
| 15:39.10 | greycat | sounds like a microsoft proxy |
| 15:39.22 | N00BJustInst | it probably is |
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| 15:39.40 | N00BJustInst | any solutions so that i can use via linux? |
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| 15:39.56 | N00BJustInst | i.e. - could i use some sort of tunneling? |
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| 15:40.43 | N00BJustInst | !sum1 |
| 15:40.43 | dpkg | try someone |
| 15:40.55 | N00BJustInst | !someone |
| 15:40.56 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 15:41.33 | N00BJustInst | greycat: is there anyway i can get around this problem? |
| 15:42.26 | goccia | N00BJustInst: i'm just curious : try konqueror reporting it as i.e |
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| 15:43.18 | greycat | hard to help him if he vanishes. |
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| 15:43.40 | greycat | N00BJustInst: do you have to authenticate to this proxy? |
| 15:43.47 | N00BJustInst | sorry bout that - i get booted off xirc after about 7 minutes too |
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| 15:43.58 | morbius | you don't have kernel lufs support (check whether the lufs module is available/loaded) - I have already apt-get install lufs-* what else should I need? |
| 15:44.10 | smo_ | hi what can i use to know the actual temp of my cpu???? |
| 15:44.14 | greycat | N00BJustInst: run. run fast. |
| 15:44.31 | N00BJustInst | greycat: what do you mean? - by the way - i am a total noob - been using linux for about 3 hours but catch on fast |
| 15:44.33 | Super_Cat_Frog | NOOBJustInst - a ssh tunnel to your home internet connection |
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| 15:45.02 | N00BJustInst | Super_Cat_Frog: whats that? |
| 15:45.08 | greycat | Super_Cat_Frog: would it get cut after 7 minutes? :) |
| 15:45.31 | N00BJustInst | the message i get is remote host closed socket |
| 15:45.37 | Super_Cat_Frog | greycat - he said he could connect to stuff other than http, so a ssh tunnel would work round that |
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| 15:45.49 | Super_Cat_Frog | unless im replying to the wrong person |
| 15:45.49 | jefe486 | anyone noticed that ftp.debian.org may be down? |
| 15:46.07 | Super_Cat_Frog | jefe486 - works for me |
| 15:46.10 | greycat | Super_Cat_Frog: unless it gets killed every 7 minutes like his IRC session |
| 15:46.11 | N00BJustInst | no - thats me - so how do i do a ssh tunnel so i can access http? |
| 15:46.27 | greycat | wow, one person in #openssh |
| 15:46.30 | jefe486 | I'm getting resolution issues |
| 15:46.32 | greycat | that's a first. |
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| 15:46.35 | Super_Cat_Frog | greycat - ah yes, i missed that |
| 15:46.36 | N00BJustInst | i think all connections do - even gaim gets kicked |
| 15:46.43 | greycat | N00BJustInst: run. |
| 15:46.47 | Super_Cat_Frog | can anybody tell me where apt-get build-dep downloads the packages to? |
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| 15:46.50 | greycat | flee for your life. |
| 15:46.59 | N00BJustInst | lol |
| 15:47.17 | jefe486 | is anyone getting resolution issues from ftp.debian.org? |
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| 15:47.44 | N00BJustInst | can sum1 port scan my proxy for me |
| 15:47.50 | N00BJustInst | 193.113.200.195 |
| 15:47.51 | greycat | N00BJustInst: there is no point setting up a tunnel that's going to die every 7 minutes |
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| 15:48.17 | Super_Cat_Frog | greycat - doesn't ssh have a keepalive option, that could survive while the connection dies? |
| 15:48.19 | N00BJustInst | greycat: is there no way i could use a local proxy connected to my remote proxy |
| 15:48.39 | smo_ | how can i see the temperature of my cpu ??? |
| 15:48.42 | BourneAgain1 | Question: I have 2 network cards in one computer. One side is hooked to one subnet, the other to another subnet that is internal to another network that is only attached directly to this port through a switch. How can I forward packets out of the network so that I can access the internet over these other computer? ( The reason for this setup is that it is the head node of a cluster ) |
| 15:48.47 | Super_Cat_Frog | smo_ - touch it |
| 15:48.55 | greycat | Super_Cat_Frog: the keepalive's purpose is to *prevent* the NAT from expiring the session on inactivity. |
| 15:49.01 | smo_ | lol |
| 15:49.12 | greycat | Super_Cat_Frog: if the proxy is maliciously *severing* the connection every 7 minutes even while it's active, he's fucked. |
| 15:49.19 | smo_ | my bro have a p4 ht it s now 65° c !!!! |
| 15:49.24 | smo_ | don t think it s normal |
| 15:49.26 | ma3x | Why mplayer plays my DVD so badly? |
| 15:49.29 | Super_Cat_Frog | greycat - ah |
| 15:49.30 | _vincent_ | it's quite normal |
| 15:49.30 | ma3x | I see lines everywhere |
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| 15:49.30 | N00BJustInst | thats pretty much what its doing |
| 15:49.33 | ma3x | (horizontal lines) |
| 15:49.46 | smo_ | want to campare with my pc |
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| 15:49.55 | ma3x | smo_, compare what? |
| 15:50.01 | N00BJustInst | however - http traffic works in windows xp |
| 15:50.13 | BourneAgain1 | How do I forward packets from eth0 to eth1? |
| 15:50.17 | Super_Cat_Frog | ma3x - i believe you just need to change your output driver |
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| 15:50.26 | smo_ | with temperature on my pc |
| 15:50.26 | ma3x | Super_Cat_Frog, to what? |
| 15:50.28 | Super_Cat_Frog | mplayer dvd:// -vo=x11 |
| 15:50.35 | Super_Cat_Frog | or -vo=xv |
| 15:50.37 | Ecligprs | BourneAgain1, read iptables howto |
| 15:50.51 | Super_Cat_Frog | although xine is better for dvd's - mplayer doesn't support dvd menu's |
| 15:50.52 | greycat | BourneAgain1: sounds like you're asking "how do I set up a router" |
| 15:51.05 | greycat | !apostrophesmite Super_Cat_Frog |
| 15:51.05 | ma3x | Super_Cat_Frog, Unknown option on the command line: vo=x11 |
| 15:51.10 | BourneAgain1 | greycat: Yeah :( |
| 15:51.17 | Ecligprs | BourneAgain1, www.netfilter.org |
| 15:51.18 | N00BJustInst | is mplayer the best media player - ??? - i think i had that with a austrumi live cd once that i didn't know how to use |
| 15:51.22 | goccia | N00BJustInst: i don't think it works : try konqueror faking it as i.e. and faking the os as well , i'm just curious |
| 15:51.25 | jefe486 | OMG!!! the world is coming to an end... FTP.DEBIAN.ORG = dead... or dns is messed somewhere |
| 15:51.27 | Ecligprs | read the nat howto :) |
| 15:51.38 | Super_Cat_Frog | ma3x - there's a - before the vo, also try -vo x11 instead of -xo=x11 - ive not tried for ages, cant remember |
| 15:51.42 | greycat | BourneAgain1: the simplest answer: you configure all the interfaces, then you tell the kernel to permit IP forwarding. Then you tell the machines on each subnet to route through you. |
| 15:51.43 | zinx | jefe486: use a different mirror |
| 15:51.45 | morbius | how can i use vim over ftp? |
| 15:51.47 | N00BJustInst | goccia: where can i get konqueror |
| 15:51.53 | greycat | morbius: that's SICK. |
| 15:51.57 | jefe486 | zinx: I'm offended by the mere thought of that |
| 15:51.57 | N00BJustInst | goccia: and will it work with ubuntu? |
| 15:52.00 | zinx | jefe486: there's a bajillion of them |
| 15:52.07 | morbius | greycat: huh? |
| 15:52.22 | greycat | morbius: disgusting. nauseating. horrifying. appalling. |
| 15:52.26 | BourneAgain1 | greycat: How do I tell the kernel to permit IP forwarding? |
| 15:52.31 | Super_Cat_Frog | im off |
| 15:52.33 | Super_Cat_Frog | bye all |
| 15:52.33 | jefe486 | zinx: there are a bajillion woman out there... doesn't mean I can just go and use another on! I use ftp.debian.org faithfully! |
| 15:52.34 | greycat | BourneAgain1: echo 1 > /proc/something or other |
| 15:52.41 | greycat | BourneAgain1: should be in the NAT howtos |
| 15:52.51 | Ecligprs | /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward or something |
| 15:52.55 | zinx | jefe486: hey, if you want to be with an old shifty hag, that's your choice i guess |
| 15:52.56 | gnat_x | hi all. i'm trying to install a basic program called png2ico from source. it requires libpng, but i think its choking because the Makefile isn't calling it right or something. |
| 15:53.03 | Ecligprs | but yeah, read the howot |
| 15:53.05 | Ecligprs | howto |
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| 15:53.10 | morbius | greycat: so I take it its a bad idea? |
| 15:53.16 | jefe486 | zinx: lmao |
| 15:53.23 | gnat_x | anywawy having a bit of trouble making out what the error is. |
| 15:53.26 | jefe486 | zinx: atleast she's reliable... minus today |
| 15:53.26 | greycat | morbius: you might look into NFS, SMB, or shfs. |
| 15:53.29 | BourneAgain1 | I do not want NAT. Just forwarding from one network to another. |
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| 15:53.35 | ma3x | I get those horizontal lines again |
| 15:53.39 | ma3x | should i isntall some codec or smth |
| 15:53.51 | N00BJustInst | goccia: where can i find konqueror? |
| 15:54.18 | goccia | N00BJustInst: i get into some stupid sites that way , dont' know about proxy : it is kde browser |
| 15:54.33 | Noid_ | BourneAgain1: i think what you want is ip forwarding... echo ip_forward=yes >> /etc/network/options |
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| 15:54.55 | Ecligprs | that doesn't work with just that |
| 15:55.02 | BourneAgain1 | Noid: Yes that is what I want. Thanks |
| 15:55.05 | Ecligprs | read the freaking howto |
| 15:55.17 | N00BJustInst | goccia: thanks - gotta go to windows to get it |
| 15:55.30 | jefe486 | Ecligprs: its spoken as follows, "RTFM" |
| 15:55.36 | Ecligprs | ah yes |
| 15:55.39 | Ecligprs | thanks for the correction |
| 15:55.58 | jefe486 | np;) |
| 15:56.17 | Ecligprs | !np |
| 15:56.17 | dpkg | from memory, np is "no problem", or "null pointer", or "no pants", or non-deterministically polynomial, or ¡ningún problema!, or "Now Playing", an abbreviation used by those lame mIRC/WinAmp plugins |
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| 15:56.39 | samuel | anyone here familiar with dhcpd3? |
| 15:56.48 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 15:56.48 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 15:56.53 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: Yes |
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| 15:57.44 | furrywolf_ | how hard is it going to be for me to install a _bootable_ debian installation onto a hard drive in an external usb enclosure? :) |
| 15:57.46 | rrt | I have sarge installed with default gnome desktop. How do I burn files to CD? |
| 15:58.05 | jefe486 | rrt: install kde :) |
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| 15:58.16 | samuel | im trying to netboot a machine, and ive configured dhcpd3 correctly... only i have to put the hardware mac address of the client in to the config file, how can i tell it to boot all machines from such and such address? |
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| 15:58.28 | fatal_ | rtt: nautilus (the file browser) should be able to do that... |
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| 15:58.42 | gnat_x | rrt: you can install k3b which i've found works the best of all the gui cd burning apps |
| 15:59.20 | gnat_x | rrt: it'll install a bunch of kde libs though, not sure if you want that, but i tend to find them useful. |
| 15:59.33 | vahvarh | Hallo! What URL must I use in sources.list for amd64 debian _source_ packages? |
| 15:59.47 | greycat | ask #debian-amd64 |
| 16:00.06 | rrt | np getting it now. |
| 16:00.08 | rrt | thanks |
| 16:00.17 | furrywolf_ | is the netinst cd smart enough to recognize a usb hard drive, partition/etc it, and install a bootable debian install (with grub) onto it? |
| 16:00.55 | jefe486 | where can I get a list of debian repos? |
| 16:00.55 | fatal_ | furrywolf_: I think so, the question is if your bios is smart enough to be able to boot from it. |
| 16:01.02 | greycat | jefe486: run apt-setup |
| 16:01.12 | jefe486 | greycat: lol, dur... thanks |
| 16:01.25 | furrywolf_ | fatal_: I don't need to be able to boot off it. :P |
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| 16:01.40 | furrywolf_ | (this is for the famed rube goldberg install some people here I'm sure remember...) |
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| 16:01.42 | fatal_ | furrywolf_: ok, then it should work. :) |
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| 16:02.04 | stew | furrywolf_: punch card reader and a usb printer? |
| 16:02.12 | gnat_x | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.14 | gnat_x | bah |
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| 16:02.30 | furrywolf_ | stew: nah. the miniature laptop with zero removable media and zero expansion ports. :) |
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| 16:02.45 | anarcat | someone can give me a hand with termcap stuff? |
| 16:02.52 | greycat | run. |
| 16:02.54 | greycat | run fast. |
| 16:03.04 | jefe486 | runs faster. |
| 16:03.06 | anarcat | backspace works in the terminal, but when I start screen, it generates delete instead |
| 16:03.07 | greycat | run into the 21st century (or hell, even the 1990s) where we don't use termcap any more. |
| 16:03.08 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: You are using PXE booting correct? |
| 16:03.54 | anarcat | furrywolf_, it's not :) |
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| 16:04.03 | greycat | furrywolf_: see deadcat, et al. |
| 16:04.04 | jefe486 | yay: I have fortunes-off on this server also:) |
| 16:04.07 | PissedTrixBunny | I was wondering, where do I get help with webmin? my question is fairly simple for some I suppose: I got webmin-apache.... but I think it asumes apache 1.... but I'm using apache2... I was wondering how to do make apache2 works with webmin |
| 16:04.27 | anarcat | so... it's not a termcap thing? |
| 16:04.39 | anarcat | how do i get around getting doc or debugging this ? |
| 16:04.40 | chocoIate | hi, i have a large windows partition. Is it possible to divide this so that i can install linux on the other half ? |
| 16:04.46 | furrywolf_ | anarcat: heh, furry? :) |
| 16:05.13 | snail | chocoIate: yes it is. try parted |
| 16:05.14 | anarcat | or is it fury... |
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| 16:05.28 | chocoIate | what is parted snail ? |
| 16:05.31 | samuel | BourneAgain1, yes, ive got it working with atftpd - but i need to put the HW MAC address every time i boot a new computer, so i would like to do it without that - just direct ALL clients to boot from such-and-such... |
| 16:05.35 | chocoIate | does it run on windows |
| 16:05.38 | greycat | anarcat: no, backspace has almost nothing to do with terminfo and NOTHING AT ALL --EVER-- to do with termcap on Debian. |
| 16:05.45 | anarcat | oh |
| 16:05.45 | chocoIate | would i need to do this before installing debian ? |
| 16:05.52 | anarcat | ok, that's a start then |
| 16:05.55 | greycat | Debian hasn't used termcap for... uh... did it *ever* use termcap? |
| 16:05.56 | jan_ | hi, i'm doing a dist-upgrade and it will upgrade tot php5, but i have php4-imagick installed, and php4-imagick will be removed .. |
| 16:06.01 | anarcat | greycat, dunno |
| 16:06.05 | snail | chocoIate: parted is a partitioner, like partition magic only free |
| 16:06.13 | snail | it runs from a livecd/installer |
| 16:06.17 | anarcat | greycat, it's just that termcap's vocabulary is all over the place in screen's doc |
| 16:06.31 | greycat | anarcat: is this in an xterM? |
| 16:06.34 | greycat | s/M/m/ |
| 16:06.41 | anarcat | greycat, rxvt |
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| 16:06.50 | smhar | anybody tried getting kde 3.4 .. into testing.. by compiling it from source |
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| 16:07.06 | anarcat | % echo $TERM ~ |
| 16:07.06 | anarcat | xterm-color |
| 16:07.12 | anarcat | % screen |
| 16:07.23 | anarcat | % echo $TERM |
| 16:07.23 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: I currently add the MAC addresses manually also. I am a FAI user. So I need to physically know what computer it is. Sorry, dunno. :( Ask over in PXE. |
| 16:07.25 | anarcat | screen |
| 16:07.31 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: If anyone is home there. |
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| 16:07.46 | greycat | anarcat: is this on a Debian box? Linux? Solaris? |
| 16:07.52 | asuffield | greycat: I believe there was once a time when Debian used termcap, but we're talking like ten years ago here |
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| 16:08.00 | anarcat | in the rxvt, backspace generates ^? and delete generates ^[[3~ |
| 16:08.02 | greycat | and why in the name of Asmodeus do you have a % prompt? |
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| 16:08.05 | anarcat | greycat, Debian unstable |
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| 16:08.18 | anarcat | in the screen, both generate ^[[3 |
| 16:08.40 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: I might add that having open PXE booting is a hazard to network health. |
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| 16:08.55 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: But I am sure you understand this. |
| 16:09.26 | anarcat | any other suggestion? |
| 16:09.30 | Supaplex | I've had a similar problem like anarcat says. I'm on sid, but the system I execute screen from is FreeBSD. |
| 16:09.40 | anarcat | i often have this problem but never remember how to fix/debug it |
| 16:09.44 | Supaplex | I worked around it by rebinding the key in irssi. |
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| 16:10.36 | greycat | slackware? yes. |
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| 16:10.58 | asuffield | I just have to write a lengthly fricking .inputrc to explain to bash where my home and end keys are |
| 16:11.01 | samuel | BourneAgain1, thanks for the info, its just a small network of mine, and only connected to my own computer, so itst fine i guess... thanks for the help though |
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| 16:11.08 | asuffield | since apparently it doesn't know |
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| 16:11.48 | adaran | good evening everyone. |
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| 16:12.01 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: Dunno if DHCP3 supports option spaces. Looking in the manuel. |
| 16:12.04 | greycat | rxvt's handling of backspace is less than ideal. |
| 16:12.12 | anarcat | greycat, that might be the problem |
| 16:12.15 | anarcat | i'll try xterm |
| 16:12.15 | greycat | its handling of tty modes is nonexistent. |
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| 16:12.19 | asuffield | greycat: and I use mrxvt, which is like rxvt with extra crack |
| 16:12.23 | samuel | BourneAgain1, thanks... ill look at that |
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| 16:12.25 | jan_ | hi, i'm doing a dist-upgrade and it will upgrade tot php5, but i have php4-imagick installed, and php4-imagick will be removed .. |
| 16:12.34 | greycat | here on hp-ux I use: rxvt*backspacekey: ^h |
| 16:12.38 | greycat | in my .Xdefaults |
| 16:12.42 | anarcat | indeed, everything is ok in xterm |
| 16:13.12 | elkid | is it the gnome-menu-editor only for +2.10 gnome`s? |
| 16:13.13 | asuffield | the problem, as usual, is that all terminals are shit |
| 16:13.14 | greycat | at home I have this but I don't even know what it does: rxvt*erase_del: true |
| 16:13.24 | asuffield | and you just have to pick one where the shit is easiest to work around |
| 16:13.29 | anarcat | oh shit |
| 16:13.37 | anarcat | i had an evil line in my .Xdefaults |
| 16:13.44 | greycat | !lart anarcat |
| 16:13.45 | adaran | hmmm did anyone try out kde 3.4.1 from experimental? i've been using 3.4.1 from people.debian.org before, and it worked fine, but i've run into some issues with the experimental version |
| 16:13.47 | anarcat | #rxvt*termName: xterm-color |
| 16:13.49 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: It does support option spaces. You add a PXE option space. |
| 16:14.01 | anarcat | sorry everyone |
| 16:14.03 | anarcat | bug fixed :) |
| 16:14.05 | stew | damn, i have x-terminal-emulator going to xterm not rxvt and didn't even notice |
| 16:14.12 | asuffield | rxvt is so not an xterm |
| 16:14.15 | samuel | BourneAgain1, thanks, im looking for it now! |
| 16:14.17 | BourneAgain1 | option space PXE; |
| 16:14.20 | xerophyte | is there free version of www.openexchange.com ??? |
| 16:14.20 | greycat | *I* would've noticed. |
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| 16:14.30 | rbochan | heh |
| 16:14.35 | anarcat | definitly :) |
| 16:14.36 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: Then you add stuff to it. It should work. |
| 16:14.37 | anarcat | ok |
| 16:14.39 | greycat | first time I did shift-+ :) |
| 16:14.41 | anarcat | thanks for the paths |
| 16:14.43 | anarcat | hint |
| 16:14.44 | anarcat | ss |
| 16:14.46 | greycat | that would've been a real giveaway |
| 16:14.47 | anarcat | whatever |
| 16:14.56 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: http://www.carfax.org.uk/docs/Netboot/ |
| 16:15.10 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: That has the documentation for how to do what you want. |
| 16:15.16 | asuffield | xerophyte: that is groupware. there are ten million groupware systems, both free and non-free |
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| 16:15.23 | samuel | BourneAgain1, thanks!!! thanks alot! |
| 16:15.23 | anarcat | shift-+? |
| 16:15.30 | asuffield | xerophyte: I have not as yet seen one which did not suck the ultimate goat |
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| 16:15.37 | greycat | anarcat: Shift-<Keypad_Plus> in rxvt |
| 16:15.44 | anarcat | oh |
| 16:15.46 | greycat | anarcat: increases font size and makes the window grow to match |
| 16:15.47 | anarcat | no keypad here ;) |
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| 16:16.18 | greycat | plus there's the fact that the scroll bar is on the other side and has entirely different semantics |
| 16:16.21 | asuffield | greycat: or in my case, randomises font shape and jumps the window around the screen |
| 16:16.22 | dushtabuddhi | hello, my network card doesnt seem to be loading after a reboot |
| 16:16.36 | dushtabuddhi | it was working fine all these days ... |
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| 16:16.48 | rbochan | what changed? |
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| 16:16.53 | dushtabuddhi | i'm running debian sarge |
| 16:16.58 | dushtabuddhi | nothing's changed |
| 16:16.58 | anarcat | thanks greycat |
| 16:17.07 | rbochan | something has |
| 16:17.14 | greycat | asuffield: HP-UX's xterm is *old* old school. No color, etc. |
| 16:17.25 | Thaiger | I have a script that runs from inittab, it starts x as a certain user, I thought I had to lock and unlock before the command (i.e lock su --command="startx" guest exec unlock) but when I do that it says it can't find lock |
| 16:17.29 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: Sorry :( That does not work. |
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| 16:17.34 | greycat | the kind where you have to export TERM=xterm-old in debian to make it work |
| 16:17.35 | anarcat | ciao all |
| 16:17.40 | BourneAgain1 | samuel: I jumped the gun on that :( |
| 16:17.41 | asuffield | while mrxvt is new and crackful and has a 0.x version number |
| 16:17.45 | dushtabuddhi | rbochan, no :( it's a HP blade server with a broadcom gigabit ethernet |
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| 16:17.52 | asuffield | but it's the most workaroundable one I've found so far |
| 16:18.06 | rbochan | dushtabuddhi: is the module loading? (lsmod) |
| 16:18.15 | asuffield | just have to restart it with a -fn argument if you want to change the font size |
| 16:18.17 | greycat | multi-tabs? ewww!! |
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| 16:18.23 | dushtabuddhi | rbochan, that's wot is missing :( |
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| 16:18.32 | rbochan | load it |
| 16:18.34 | dushtabuddhi | wot is it that handles module loading in sarge ? |
| 16:18.44 | asuffield | greycat: hey, some of us want to fit thirty shells in and still be able to see :P |
| 16:18.49 | rbochan | I use modconf myself |
| 16:18.49 | drac | dushtabuddhi: modprobe ? |
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| 16:19.08 | asuffield | he's probably been hotplugged |
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| 16:19.21 | drac | ouch |
| 16:19.28 | Thaiger | when I try to run a script that does a startx from inittab it says timeout locking .Xauthority, how do I lock it in my script? |
| 16:19.34 | samuel | BourneAgain1, hey... ummm... oh right, yeah im looking at it now, looks like it wouldnt work :( |
| 16:19.36 | dushtabuddhi | any idea wot's the driver for a broadcom bcm5604 |
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| 16:19.45 | dushtabuddhi | asuffield, no |
| 16:19.46 | greycat | dushtabuddhi: there's /etc/modules and there's discover (several flavors) and there's hotplug. and there's new and entirely surprising shit in 2.6! |
| 16:19.48 | ma3x | the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade is what exactly? |
| 16:19.58 | ma3x | I mean 1. you only upgrade your packages |
| 16:20.04 | dushtabuddhi | greycat, i was running 2.4 |
| 16:20.05 | ma3x | and 2. you upgrade the distro, right? |
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| 16:20.14 | greycat | dushtabuddhi: ok, then there are only 3 things to worry about |
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| 16:20.20 | asuffield | ma3x: dist-upgrade looks for unsatisfiable dependencies, and randomly toggles the install state of related packages until there aren't any left |
| 16:20.25 | greycat | ma3x: man apt-get |
| 16:21.02 | dushtabuddhi | actually, tried to brute force module loading ... also ... insmodding all network modules ... didnt work :( |
| 16:21.06 | asuffield | ma3x: so you get a system with all dependencies satisfied that can be (and therefore everything upgraded), but a fairly random package selection at the end of it |
| 16:21.06 | ma3x | asuffield, so if i do apt-get upgrade (with sid packages updated) i will upgrade to Sid, right? |
| 16:21.16 | Angel-SL | hey |
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| 16:21.37 | asuffield | upgrade just tries to upgrade everything which is currently installed. if there are any packages which can't be upgraded because their dependencies wouldn't be satisfied, it doesn't upgrade them |
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| 16:21.55 | Angel-SL | where do i download themes? |
| 16:21.58 | asuffield | if there's significant distance between your current installation and the one you're upgrading to, upgrade probably won't do a whole lot |
| 16:22.04 | morbius | module-assistant is telling me to install kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 but apt-get install fails, is there another that i can use? |
| 16:22.16 | greycat | why are you running a woody kernel? |
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| 16:22.27 | stew | morbius: /msg dpkg real kernel |
| 16:22.31 | greycat | m-a is not a woody program |
| 16:22.31 | dushtabuddhi | greycat, who me ? |
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| 16:22.33 | Supaplex | because he's old fashioned |
| 16:22.42 | morbius | ty stew |
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| 16:22.48 | greycat | well he needs to have woody sources for his headers, then. |
| 16:22.51 | Angel-SL | where do i download themes?? |
| 16:22.53 | stew | morbius: bf2.4 was a kernel only meant for installing woody, you were supposed to replace it at the end of the woody install |
| 16:22.58 | greycat | or he needs to upgrade to a kernel that is actually supported |
| 16:23.18 | Ronin | Angel-SL: themes for what? |
| 16:23.19 | greycat | Angel-SL: are you ALWAYS this vague? |
| 16:23.21 | Nebulous | do the nvidia glx drivers work with x.org ? |
| 16:23.30 | Angel-SL | Debian |
| 16:23.50 | nima | nebulous: i dont think so |
| 16:23.55 | Ronin | Angel-SL: well we figured that much but for what in debian, kde? gnome? amsn? etc |
| 16:24.00 | stew | !xorg-nvidia |
| 16:24.01 | dpkg | i heard xorg-nvidia is http://www.livejournal.com/users/gravityboy/16446.html |
| 16:24.01 | s_ward | Nebulous, check the bts, but I'm using them right now |
| 16:24.03 | Supaplex | Angel-SL: be SPECIFIC. what 1 of 48924 packages? |
| 16:24.03 | nima | if anyone finds a solution i cound use it |
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| 16:24.08 | stew | that factoid might be old though |
| 16:24.18 | Nebulous | thanks stew, reading that now |
| 16:24.24 | greycat | hey now, there aren't 48924 packages. |
| 16:24.27 | greycat | there are only 18k or so |
| 16:24.31 | Supaplex | not yet :p |
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| 16:24.47 | Supaplex | may as well be with an answer like "my computer" |
| 16:24.56 | Angel-SL | I want themes for Debian......Apps > Desktop Prefs > Themes |
| 16:25.03 | ma3x | asuffield, can you answer my question please: if i edit sources.list with sid, except the security line and then do apt-get update followed by upgrade, will i upgrade to sid or only the packages? |
| 16:25.03 | morbius | stew: oh, but the apt-get install kernerl-install suggested by apt isn't found should i use - kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 ? |
| 16:25.05 | Angel-SL | eh |
| 16:25.07 | Nebulous | that's gtk2 themes |
| 16:25.07 | Angel-SL | Theme |
| 16:25.12 | zimnyx | Angel-SL: so download then |
| 16:25.14 | starsky | hello!!!! |
| 16:25.16 | stew | morbius: what cpu do you have? |
| 16:25.20 | Angel-SL | where? |
| 16:25.22 | morbius | intel |
| 16:25.23 | greycat | desktop prefs? that sounds GNOMEish. |
| 16:25.38 | greycat | or it could possibly be KDEbian |
| 16:25.39 | stew | morbius: pentium pro p3 or newer? |
| 16:25.51 | dafen | what's the difference between debian kernel-source and kernel-source pulled off from kernel.org? |
| 16:25.53 | PissedTrixBunny | I was wondering, where do I get help with webmin? my question is fairly simple for some I suppose: I got webmin-apache.... but I think it asumes apache 1.... but I'm using apache2... I was wondering how to do make apache2 works with webmin |
| 16:25.56 | PissedTrixBunny | thanks |
| 16:25.59 | PissedTrixBunny | I was away earlier |
| 16:26.00 | greycat | dafen: debian's is patched |
| 16:26.03 | starsky | I need help for a mail server on sarge enviroment |
| 16:26.03 | morbius | i think its a xeno |
| 16:26.06 | greycat | !pal PissedTrixBunny |
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| 16:26.08 | stew | morbius: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4-686 or kenrel-image-2.6-686 |
| 16:26.13 | davis | hello from germany |
| 16:26.13 | LSorensen | morbius: that's like telling someone your car is a ford. not very useful for telling what kind of brakes you need |
| 16:26.15 | morbius | *xeon |
| 16:26.19 | morbius | ty |
| 16:26.20 | dafen | patched for what? |
| 16:26.26 | dafen | that's the main wondering I have |
| 16:26.27 | stew | morbius: and also kenrel-headers-xxx-686 |
| 16:26.29 | LSorensen | morbius: well that narrows it down to a p3 or p4 |
| 16:26.30 | greycat | dafen: read the diffs |
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| 16:26.37 | Supaplex | PissedTrixBunny: if webmin is your thing, use the standalone server. less to break. |
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| 16:26.47 | stew | LSorensen: there were xeon p-pros i though |
| 16:26.53 | dafen | the offical source can't be compiled? |
| 16:26.59 | stew | thought* (its 686 nonetheless though) |
| 16:26.59 | dafen | the patched one CAN be compiled on debian |
| 16:27.00 | LSorensen | stew: , P2 and P3 yes. not ppro |
| 16:27.01 | davis | There was a time when I used to ssh from my debian box to other boxes and I could use the backspace in VIM. Now it never works. WTF am I doing wrong? |
| 16:27.12 | morbius | is there something i can list for the exact proc type? |
| 16:27.18 | LSorensen | stew: p2/p3 were the same thing anyhow (other than SSE instructions) |
| 16:27.19 | greycat | morbius: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:27.24 | morbius | ty green_earz |
| 16:27.25 | morbius | bah |
| 16:27.28 | morbius | *greycat |
| 16:27.33 | starsky | someone can give me information on mail server? |
| 16:27.37 | greycat | !mail tutorial |
| 16:27.37 | dpkg | mail tutorial is probably at http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
| 16:27.42 | Supaplex | davis: there's a backspace tax that just passed. either type correctly, or pay up. ;) |
| 16:27.47 | Wonker | looking for a solution to this (unstable): kdelibs4 wants libfam0c102, but unstable only has libgamin0 or libfam0, neigher of which supply the dependecy. This seems to be a very old problem resurfaced... |
| 16:27.50 | davis | Supaplex: LOL |
| 16:27.54 | Angel-SL | no |
| 16:27.54 | morbius | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz |
| 16:28.04 | starsky | thank dpkg |
| 16:28.08 | Angel-SL | Tell me. |
| 16:28.14 | Angel-SL | !themes |
| 16:28.14 | dpkg | themes is, like, see theme |
| 16:28.17 | Angel-SL | !theme |
| 16:28.17 | dpkg | [theme] want gnome-themes? you probably are looking for the package gtk-theme-switch'.. 'also see packages gtk-engine-*'... |
| 16:28.28 | Angel-SL | i read that dpkg. |
| 16:28.33 | Angel-SL | in a PM |
| 16:28.54 | greycat | Angel-SL: ask a gnome channel. we don't know. |
| 16:29.18 | Nebulous | you could probably install them all with some dpkg/sed wizardry |
| 16:29.45 | Nebulous | Angel-SL: run aptitude or synaptic and search for gtk2-engines |
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| 16:29.55 | Nebulous | Angel-SL: install those, and you will have more themes to chose from |
| 16:29.55 | rabies | hey |
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| 16:31.00 | rabies | anyone know the website to get old debian packages? |
| 16:31.11 | rabies | 2.2.2-4 evolution crashes for me for some reason |
| 16:31.13 | asg | !sdn |
| 16:31.14 | dpkg | somebody said sdn was go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problem. |
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| 16:31.33 | Ronin | rabies: welcome to the world of testing, theres a bug in it for the last while |
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| 16:32.24 | rabies | Ronin: okay... |
| 16:32.35 | rabies | anyway, anyone remember the archive site URL/ |
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| 16:32.45 | Nebulous | http://snapshot.debian.net |
| 16:32.47 | greycat | archives of what? |
| 16:32.56 | rabies | Nebulous: thanks |
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| 16:34.05 | Fanno | the Sxx and kXX infront of the names in rcX.d what do they do ? tell the order ? |
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| 16:34.18 | stew | Fanno: Start Kill |
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| 16:34.41 | CountZ | what package contains execstack? |
| 16:34.45 | greycat | that had better be a K* not a k* |
| 16:34.46 | CountZ | I can't use apt-file on this box |
| 16:34.50 | greycat | CountZ: /msg dpkg search |
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| 16:34.59 | CountZ | thanks greycat |
| 16:35.03 | Fanno | hmmm i thought evrything in rc6.d was "kill" ? |
| 16:35.09 | gnat_x | i am trying to install a program from source. it needs libpng, and gives an error that i found through google is related to not bing able to find libpng, what would i have to put in the Makefile to stop that from happening. |
| 16:35.21 | greycat | Fanno: run level 6 runs the stuff in rc6.d |
| 16:35.21 | starsky | someone knows where I can find and howto for create a debian mail server? |
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| 16:35.31 | zbiw | hi |
| 16:35.33 | Ronin | starsky: didnt dpkg msg you that already? |
| 16:35.35 | greycat | starsky: apt-get install exim4 |
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| 16:35.46 | Fanno | ya but is runlevel 6 not same as shutdown ? |
| 16:35.46 | zbiw | i'd like to setup mi wifi |
| 16:35.54 | greycat | run level 6 reboots. unless you changed it. |
| 16:36.00 | zbiw | can someone tell me how to do to install centrino |
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| 16:36.57 | zbiw | i think i need ipw2200-source |
| 16:37.07 | zbiw | firmware and driver |
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| 16:37.19 | zbiw | witch i can download on ipw2200.sourceforge.net |
| 16:37.24 | starsky | ronin... I read that great page.... I mean if someone know where I can find something more |
| 16:37.33 | zbiw | but i don't have any idea about what to do with |
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| 16:37.43 | starsky | greycast: I think to use postfix |
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| 16:37.47 | stew | zbiw: /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
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| 16:37.52 | Fanno | so i if i put a link to a script inside rc6.d ie named test and name the link kXXsomename it would be like manualy doing "./test stop" |
| 16:37.55 | zbiw | thanks |
| 16:37.59 | rabies | RichiH: you there? |
| 16:38.01 | cooly | hi. i am installing debian/sarge on hp proliant dl380. everything goes ok, but when i want to tell lilo to use /dev/cciss/host0/target0/part1 to use on MBR it says me that it "does not represent a partition or hard disk device". actually when i check "mount" this path is mounted on /target. what could be wrong? |
| 16:38.10 | rabies | RichiH: ping! :) |
| 16:38.13 | elmagozizou | does anyone knows about a IRC program in text mode? |
| 16:38.17 | s_ward | gnat_x: if it says it needs libpng it probably does. You probably want libpng12-dev |
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| 16:38.27 | stew | elmagozizou: irssi-text |
| 16:38.45 | CountZ | anyone knows how execstack works? I tried execstack -d on a library, it always tells me: Executable stack : Vulnerable |
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| 16:39.12 | gnat_x | s_ward: yah i figured it needed libpng, i'll install that and see what happens. thx |
| 16:39.47 | anish | \msg rox hello rox |
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| 16:40.31 | Wonker | elmagozizou: ircii |
| 16:40.32 | concept10 | anyone have any good links for making a secure sarge based server? |
| 16:40.45 | RichiH | rabies: yes? |
| 16:41.10 | stew | !securing debian |
| 16:41.10 | dpkg | somebody said securing debian was at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html |
| 16:41.19 | rbochan | concept10: ala http://www.us.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#securing ? |
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| 16:41.50 | concept10 | stew, rbochan ... thanks |
| 16:41.56 | gnat_x | s_ward: no dice. still get "png.h: No such file or directory" |
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| 16:42.29 | jeremywhiting | hi all |
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| 16:42.45 | jeremywhiting | anyone here used xchat-text before? |
| 16:43.05 | Supaplex | !survey |
| 16:43.05 | dpkg | i guess survey is Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask. |
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| 16:43.56 | jeremywhiting | anyone that's used xchat-text before know how to separate channels into different tabs or windows or something? |
| 16:44.02 | concept10 | heh |
| 16:44.05 | Nebulous | someone should create an interactive question asking conversation for dpkg. the questioneer fills in the blanks, the app, the problem, etc, then dpkg posts the question in the channel |
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| 16:44.39 | natalia | hi |
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| 16:44.52 | Supaplex | takes less effort to type !survey and make them do it. :) |
| 16:44.57 | concept10 | Nebulous, thats a good idea but it will be based on opinions |
| 16:45.03 | silensius | perl: warning: Setting locale failed what must i do , |
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| 16:45.11 | anish | Is magic vlsi software available as a deb binary i386 ? |
| 16:45.25 | miguelzinho | I have a machine with hot-swap scsi disks, what is the right procedure for changing a disc? |
| 16:45.40 | concept10 | I have another idea that someone (maybe me) should implement |
| 16:45.44 | rbochan | Nebulous: that's called reportbug ;p |
| 16:45.50 | smhar | anyone can help me with cpanel backup/restore of a whole site -small one- or tell me of a channel for such discussions |
| 16:46.00 | s_ward | gnat_x: What is it you're trying to compile? |
| 16:46.25 | starsky | some suggests on crating a debian mail server? |
| 16:46.33 | starsky | creating |
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| 16:46.40 | greycat | starsky: grow a clue. |
| 16:46.46 | concept10 | use something like the hardware info collection tool in Ubuntu and have it update a database that is accessible to anyone |
| 16:46.47 | gnat_x | s_ward: png2ico |
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| 16:47.19 | rbochan | concept10: you mean like bts? |
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| 16:47.24 | natalia | firefox menu is very odd, the toolbar doesn't have those buttons, only letters. When I click a menu item it becomes dirty, and blends with the background... any idea? |
| 16:47.28 | Karnaugh | greycat: grow some tact |
| 16:47.53 | nenubat | join garbure |
| 16:48.03 | Karnaugh | starsky: I've never gone wrong with Postfix and Courier |
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| 16:48.17 | Karnaugh | starsky: *read* *the* *docs* though |
| 16:48.22 | greycat | Karnaugh: my tact gland is depleted |
| 16:48.23 | concept10 | rbochan, yes. but bts doesnt collect hardware info does it? |
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| 16:48.27 | Karnaugh | great emphisis on that :P |
| 16:48.32 | Karnaugh | greycat: spend less time here |
| 16:48.35 | Karnaugh | :P |
| 16:48.47 | greycat | Karnaugh: /lastlog starsky |
| 16:48.47 | CountZ | ok I have this issue, and at first I thought it was because I have a grsec kernel, but seems like I don't..! so what gives? |
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| 16:48.48 | CountZ | sshd: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14 |
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| 16:48.54 | rbochan | no, concept10 there's a decent hardware dbase at linuxquestions.org |
| 16:48.59 | starsky | greycast: I want to create a complete mail server (smtp,pop3,antispam,webadmin) using debian sarge, postfix... it's my first exsperience |
| 16:49.04 | concept10 | starsky, http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2003/09/25/advanced_mail_server.html |
| 16:49.07 | stew | concept10: the ubuntu code is all opensource... |
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| 16:49.18 | mind | ls |
| 16:49.21 | greycat | !ls |
| 16:49.21 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
| 16:49.23 | mind | ops sorry |
| 16:49.25 | starsky | thanks concept10 |
| 16:49.33 | Ecligprs | dpkg, haha |
| 16:49.38 | Karnaugh | starsky: so do it? |
| 16:49.46 | Karnaugh | starsky: (hint, google 'postfix admin') |
| 16:50.27 | Fanno | greycat: thanks it's working =) |
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| 16:50.43 | starsky | karnaugh: thanks for the suggest |
| 16:51.06 | zyros | help |
| 16:51.09 | zyros | ups |
| 16:51.09 | zyros | xD |
| 16:51.22 | concept10 | stew, rbochan: This of this - We could make something like the ubuntu hardware profiler and make it easy to install on all distros and have everyone run it and collect this info with thier comments, not only would this be a huge database of hardware, it could serve to count some of the actual installed base of linux |
| 16:51.29 | jeremywhiting | anyone want to suggest wheir favorite console based irc client? |
| 16:51.35 | rbochan | concept10: feel free |
| 16:51.35 | concept10 | *Think of this |
| 16:51.36 | Karnaugh | irssi |
| 16:51.38 | at0m|c | irssi |
| 16:51.39 | Ecligprs | irssi |
| 16:51.40 | Karnaugh | irssi! |
| 16:51.41 | elkid | irssi |
| 16:51.44 | s_ward | !irssi-text |
| 16:51.44 | dpkg | somebody said irssi-text was probably the best IRC client |
| 16:51.45 | rbochan | weechat ;p |
| 16:51.45 | Karnaugh | rofl |
| 16:51.54 | concept10 | rbochan, youre in on it with me |
| 16:52.00 | concept10 | ? |
| 16:52.03 | rbochan | oh cripes no.. I'm no coder |
| 16:52.04 | s_ward | !poll |
| 16:52.04 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 16:52.06 | Fanno | lol |
| 16:52.14 | Supaplex | Irssi 0.8.6 (20021117) - http://irssi.org/ |
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| 16:52.19 | jeremywhiting | can you have more than one channel open in different tabs or windows in irssi? |
| 16:52.27 | Ecligprs | yes |
| 16:52.32 | rbochan | jeremywhiting: man irssi |
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| 16:52.36 | Ecligprs | I have 41 currently |
| 16:52.36 | DoppelGanger | jeremywhiting: RTFM |
| 16:52.39 | jeremywhiting | ok, thanks |
| 16:52.46 | Supaplex | I have 24 channels and 6 networks open |
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| 16:52.49 | concept10 | Does _anyone_ know the best song to learn how to break dance on? |
| 16:52.55 | DoppelGanger | ha ha wtf |
| 16:53.03 | greycat | concept10: uh... ECHAN? |
| 16:53.03 | rbochan | concept10: Rockit |
| 16:53.05 | Supaplex | !lart concept10 |
| 16:53.11 | Ecligprs | :p |
| 16:53.11 | Supaplex | !botsnack |
| 16:53.17 | Supaplex | !bot snack |
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| 16:53.19 | gnat_x | s_ward: nevermind, i just realized gimp does the same thing. |
| 16:53.20 | Supaplex | meh |
| 16:53.21 | concept10 | :) |
| 16:53.23 | greycat | rbochan: probably too fast. |
| 16:53.39 | s_ward | gnat_x: cool, I was just going to tell you I managed to compile this one no probs: http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/ |
| 16:53.49 | rbochan | greycat: [erhaps, but it's about the coolest |
| 16:54.15 | s_ward | gnat_x: Which probably wouldn't have helped you much |
| 16:54.15 | gnat_x | s_ward: yah i don't know what's up, but i'm not gonna worry about it for now :) |
| 16:54.30 | gnat_x | that's what i was trying for. |
| 16:54.38 | jkaufman | !beer |
| 16:54.38 | dpkg | methinks beer is liquid gold mate |
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| 16:59.24 | CountZ | anyone else encountered this Error 14 thing with libcrypto? |
| 16:59.28 | concept10 | I wish I knew the link of the podcast version of the Debian manual |
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| 17:01.34 | Lee__ | I'm running sarge, how would I tell apt to use one and only one package from sid? |
| 17:01.47 | LSorensen | lee: apt-show-versions |grep unstable |
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| 17:01.54 | greycat | Lee__: /msg dpkg backports |
| 17:01.59 | Lee__ | thanks |
| 17:02.16 | greycat | given the new libc and new c++ ABI in sid, you don't want to mix them directly. |
| 17:02.39 | greycat | throw in the new x.org libs and you're on a fun ride. |
| 17:02.59 | umit | hi, i got some errors when i tried to install linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 http://channels.debian.net/paste/460 |
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| 17:03.14 | Lee__ | greycat: this is for asterisk. I don't think it's dependent on much of anything else... |
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| 17:03.18 | RvGaTe | when i try to run a bin, it says: sh: line 1: uncompress: command not found.... what package do i need ? |
| 17:03.23 | zinx | greycat: hehe, sid is a fun ride right now even without mixing it with sarge ;) |
| 17:03.35 | Gathond | RvGaTe: something containing uncompress ? |
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| 17:03.50 | Gathond | RvGaTe: probably the compress package though |
| 17:03.51 | RvGaTe | Gathond: guess so, but what package :( |
| 17:03.53 | umit | i have tried even dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 but nothing changed |
| 17:04.00 | greycat | uncompress is some serious old-school shit. |
| 17:04.01 | Lee__ | Asterisk is written in C as well, so I don't think a C++ library will effect it. |
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| 17:04.16 | Gathond | RvGaTe: packages.debian.org , you can search for packages containing a specific filename |
| 17:04.23 | greycat | less Free *and* less efficent than gzip! at the same time! |
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| 17:04.40 | LSorensen | umit: maybe your initrd-tools or mkinitrd is broken |
| 17:04.43 | RvGaTe | !uncompress |
| 17:04.50 | RvGaTe | !compress |
| 17:04.51 | dpkg | it has been said that compress is tar |
| 17:04.54 | greycat | wrong. |
| 17:04.55 | LSorensen | umit: that's part of doing a kernel install |
| 17:05.00 | greycat | !factinfo compress |
| 17:05.00 | dpkg | compress -- created by cee <~ce@ti132110a080-0093.bb.online.no> at Sun May 30 12:39:18 2004 (437 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by RvGaTe, 10s ago. |
| 17:05.08 | FieldySnuts | lame |
| 17:05.36 | umit | LSorensen, but i can see /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-1-386 and /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-386 |
| 17:05.37 | Ice_e | what is essential to compile in to the kernel or as a modules for dsl networking? |
| 17:05.47 | greycat | dpkg, no, compress is the thing that unix hackers used to use back in the 1980s and 1990s before gzip came around. uses a patented algorithm for compressing, so it's not Free to implement (but decompression is Free, hence gzip's ability to handle .Z files) |
| 17:05.48 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 17:05.57 | zinx | Ice_e: USB or ethernet? |
| 17:06.03 | Ice_e | ethernet |
| 17:06.13 | zinx | Ice_e: same stuff you'd use for normal networking |
| 17:06.16 | LSorensen | umit: how about System.map and such? |
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| 17:06.22 | Supaplex | is there a log somewhere of what pacakages I installed/removed/purged and when? |
| 17:06.36 | LSorensen | umit: sure looks like a mkinitrd error (since it is an error trying to make initrd.img) |
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| 17:06.47 | zinx | Ice_e: plus PPPoE if your dsl modem doesn't handle it |
| 17:06.49 | LSorensen | umit: it may still make intird.img but with a file missing, and hence return an error |
| 17:07.00 | LSorensen | umit: oddly I never had any errors installing it on my machines |
| 17:07.04 | Ice_e | it could be that zinx |
| 17:07.07 | Ice_e | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.27 | umit | LSorensen, i can see sytem.map too |
| 17:07.38 | LSorensen | umit: with the version? |
| 17:07.42 | umit | LSorensen, yes |
| 17:07.53 | LSorensen | umit: not sure then. maybe turn some debuging on for mkinitrd script |
| 17:07.59 | abrotman | Supaplex: afaik .. no |
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| 17:08.46 | defcon8 | Romeo <--- spamming |
| 17:09.09 | umit | LSorensen, should i use dpkg --force ? |
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| 17:10.19 | abrotman | !ops Romeo spamming porn on join |
| 17:10.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Romeo spamming porn on join |
| 17:10.23 | Lee__ | woah, I think it'll be simpler to just build my own .deb from the source against sarge. does backporting always need to install a billion dependencies? |
| 17:10.26 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 17:10.26 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@194.165.133.210] by helix |
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| 17:10.26 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 17:10.31 | abrotman | helix: thank you |
| 17:10.36 | helix | de nada |
| 17:10.46 | SuperCow | What did romeo do? |
| 17:10.49 | SuperCow | why did you ban him> |
| 17:10.54 | abrotman | SuperCow: /msg spamming of porn site |
| 17:10.57 | defcon8 | http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Video |
| 17:11.00 | defcon8 | he spammed me with that |
| 17:11.15 | arcane | Hi! Anyone here using NIS? Need help on how to populate my NIS tables with data from my local files. |
| 17:11.18 | SuperCow | defcon8, awesome, no I can go there to get free pr0n! :P |
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| 17:11.21 | umit | LSorensen, apt-get makes me crazy everytime, it is trying every upgrade, i couldn't run away from it:) |
| 17:11.21 | defcon8 | yo umit |
| 17:11.27 | umit | defcon8, hi |
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| 17:12.21 | umit | thnx ur helping... |
| 17:12.42 | defcon8 | umit, your english is improving :p |
| 17:12.50 | [AWAY]Mega[Work] | which the best version of netinstall to install and where I find it? |
| 17:12.58 | umit | defcon8, like ur Turkish.. |
| 17:13.02 | jd|laptop | the one from debian.org, [AWAY]Mega[Work] |
| 17:13.06 | defcon8 | grrrr!! :@ :( |
| 17:13.27 | [AWAY]Mega[Work] | it's not very old? jd|laptop |
| 17:13.40 | SuperCow | heh, I have super cow powers! |
| 17:13.41 | abrotman | !d-i [AWAY]Mega[Work] |
| 17:13.42 | SuperCow | !moo |
| 17:13.42 | dpkg | [AWAY]Mega[Work], you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 17:13.42 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939, or cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
| 17:14.07 | defcon8 | ahgh thats so l33t |
| 17:14.14 | defcon8 | ill have to memorise and recite that at school |
| 17:14.38 | s_ward | !l33t |
| 17:14.39 | dpkg | well, l33t is emmett, or core, or jeramy. Ben Herrenschmidt, or lordknow1 or Nero. Pi, or a categorization reserved for lame script kiddies, or apt, or definitely another way to say luser |
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| 17:15.22 | arcane | Doesnt seem as if anyone is using NIS in here. Anyone know where to look for help? |
| 17:15.36 | defcon8 | i dunno but i think google may |
| 17:15.38 | Ecligprs | NIS? |
| 17:15.48 | [AWAY]Mega[Work] | what the Debian has of advantageous in comparison with the Slackware? |
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| 17:15.55 | Nebulous | it doesn't suck? |
| 17:16.01 | Ecligprs | :p |
| 17:16.02 | abrotman | !tell [AWAY]Mega[Work] about why debian |
| 17:16.03 | Lee__ | because it's the bomb! |
| 17:16.05 | arcane | Network Information System |
| 17:16.07 | abrotman | !nis |
| 17:16.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, nis is the Network Information System. It can be used to distribute files across networks. It is commonly used to maintain staff directories and files like /etc/group. Many sysadmins hate it because it is insecure. See also NFS.. Network Information Service, or http://www.levenez.com/NeXTSTEP/Xedoc.gif |
| 17:16.13 | dogwater | Anyone know if you have to do anything special to make debian 3.1 see two cpus? |
| 17:16.13 | Nebulous | sorr, i couldn't resist :) |
| 17:16.22 | abrotman | dogwater: which cpu? |
| 17:16.38 | Nebulous | dogwater: all I did was install and use a SMP kernel, I didn't have to do anything special other than that |
| 17:16.45 | Ecligprs | dogwater, smp kernel? |
| 17:16.59 | Lee__ | dogwater: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 17:17.09 | dogwater | its a xeon 3.2ghz |
| 17:17.12 | Lee__ | install the 2.6 one with the "smp" on the end. |
| 17:17.13 | dogwater | 2x |
| 17:17.17 | abrotman | dogwater: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 17:17.38 | abrotman | assuming you want 2.6 i suppose :) |
| 17:17.39 | dogwater | i couldnt find a /etc/grub.conf |
| 17:17.44 | Ecligprs | where does on need that cpu power anyway ?-o |
| 17:17.46 | dogwater | to set it as the default |
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| 17:17.54 | dogwater | lots of them get leased |
| 17:17.55 | abrotman | dogwater: look in /boot/grub ? |
| 17:17.57 | dogwater | dedicated servers |
| 17:17.59 | Lee__ | dogwater: that's cause it's no in /etc |
| 17:18.15 | Lee__ | serverbeach? |
| 17:18.34 | dogwater | nah, i work for a ded srv provider |
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| 17:18.54 | dogwater | not so quick with debian though as its not all that popular with our crowd |
| 17:19.17 | arcane | What is popluar with your crowd dogwater? |
| 17:19.34 | dogwater | Alot of them like fedora/centos and win2k3 |
| 17:19.39 | FieldySnuts | yuck |
| 17:19.42 | abrotman | dogwater: losers! |
| 17:19.45 | abrotman | dogwater: kill them! |
| 17:19.45 | arcane | humm... |
| 17:19.48 | arcane | ok |
| 17:19.50 | dogwater | freeBSD and debian are about == in numbers |
| 17:19.52 | FieldySnuts | @date fedora |
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| 17:20.19 | Lee__ | Fedora + Plesk == Windows! |
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| 17:20.25 | dogwater | Lee__: they use cpanel |
| 17:20.27 | dogwater | lol |
| 17:20.41 | FieldySnuts | nasty unfree shit |
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| 17:20.53 | Lee__ | I'm happy with serverbeach's Debian boxen. damn good deal. |
| 17:21.00 | dogwater | actually its somewhat impressive in its capabilities even if its not free |
| 17:21.07 | Nebulous | boxen is not a valid word. |
| 17:21.09 | greg_work | how do you hold back certain packages (ie don't upgrade on dist-upgrade)? |
| 17:21.21 | Lee__ | it's the plural of box, just like oxen is the plural of ox. |
| 17:21.25 | dogwater | boxen means more than one box :D |
| 17:21.31 | Nebulous | boxes is the plural of box. |
| 17:21.33 | abrotman | !tell greg_work about hold |
| 17:21.35 | dogwater | err boxen |
| 17:21.36 | abrotman | !dict boxen |
| 17:21.39 | dpkg | Dictionary 'boxen' (3 of 5): [Jargon File] ;; /bok'sn/ (By analogy with VAXen) A fanciful plural of box often encountered in the phrase "Unix boxen", used to describe commodity Unix hardware. The connotation is that any two Unix boxen are interchangeable. ;; (1994-11-29). |
| 17:21.50 | abrotman | !lose Nebulous |
| 17:21.50 | dpkg | Nebulous: You Lose. |
| 17:21.50 | Lee__ | ha! |
| 17:21.58 | Ecligprs | !dict boxes |
| 17:21.59 | Ronin | ah a made up word :) |
| 17:21.59 | Nebulous | a jargon dictionary isn't websters |
| 17:22.00 | dpkg | Dictionary 'boxes' (6 of 30): 10. (Baseball) The square in which the pitcher stands. ;; 2. The quantity that a box contain. ;; 5. A small country house. ``A shooting box.'' --Wilson. ;; 6. A boxlike shed for shelter; as, a sentry box. ;; 8. The driver's seat on a carriage or coach. ;; Box beam (Arch.), a beam made of metal plates so as to have the form of a long box.. |
| 17:22.17 | greg_work | abrotman: i found some stuff about ignore-hold, but not how to actually put a package on hold (only that it'll go on hold automatically sometimes) |
| 17:22.21 | Lee__ | let's OED it! "bling bling" is in there already. |
| 17:22.23 | abrotman | Nebulous: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=boxen |
| 17:22.29 | abrotman | !lose Nebulous |
| 17:22.30 | dpkg | Nebulous: You Lose. |
| 17:22.36 | abrotman | !tell greg_work about hold |
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| 17:22.47 | abrotman | Nebulous: webster's recognizes it also :) |
| 17:22.50 | Nebulous | abrotman: that too lists it from the jargon file |
| 17:23.03 | abrotman | Nebulous: READ ALL FOUR |
| 17:23.07 | DoppelGanger | webster = american english |
| 17:23.12 | abrotman | oh ffs ... |
| 17:23.14 | s_ward | Nebulous: and what, exactly, is wrong with the Jargon File? |
| 17:23.16 | Nebulous | abrotman: and the webster entry doesn't mean at all what you are saying ti does |
| 17:23.23 | greg_work | sorry, didnt notice it msg'd me.. |
| 17:23.27 | dogwater | we're thinking about dropping fedora support because we have a bunch of 865GLC based servers and the 1372 kernel they released killed about 40 of them |
| 17:23.31 | abrotman | Nebulous: it's still a fucking word .. you claimed it wasn't a word .. you lost .. just fucking admit it |
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| 17:23.41 | abrotman | <Nebulous> boxen is not a valid word. |
| 17:23.41 | wers | how do i shfsmount automatic in every boot,, can i put it in fstab? |
| 17:23.43 | Nebulous | i said it isn't a valid word. |
| 17:23.47 | abrotman | it is |
| 17:23.49 | Nebulous | pertaining to that syntax and use |
| 17:23.50 | abrotman | you were wrong |
| 17:23.54 | abrotman | you were wrong |
| 17:24.02 | abrotman | nah nah nah nah |
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| 17:24.07 | Lee__ | nah^6 |
| 17:24.09 | s_ward | Nebulous: it's in common use, therefore, it's valid, period. |
| 17:24.14 | Nebulous | could you come back when you grow up, abrotman? |
| 17:24.19 | Nebulous | like in ten years, when you are 16 |
| 17:24.21 | CountZ | oh man |
| 17:24.28 | abrotman | Nebulous: i'm perfectly grown up .. i can admit when i'm wrong .. you apparently cannot |
| 17:24.32 | CountZ | guys, grow up, and help me with my Error 14 problem with libcrypto |
| 17:24.32 | arcane | seriously... quit it |
| 17:24.33 | CountZ | :-) |
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| 17:24.53 | dogwater | ya'll are out of control |
| 17:24.55 | wers | how do i shfsmount automatic in every boot,, can i put it in fstab? |
| 17:24.59 | dogwater | Anyway appreciate the help with the kernel. |
| 17:25.02 | dogwater | take it easy |
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| 17:32.57 | ma3x | hey |
| 17:33.03 | ma3x | how do i make /dev/dvd ? |
| 17:33.10 | LSorensen | ma3x: ln -s realdevice dvd |
| 17:33.45 | stew | ma3x: /usr/share/doc/udev/* |
| 17:33.53 | ma3x | LSorensen, what s the realdevice dvd? |
| 17:34.08 | LSorensen | ma3x: well only the person that owns the system would really know that |
| 17:34.09 | stew | ma3x: if you make that simlink it will go away the next time udev is restarted |
| 17:34.09 | Ecligprs | depends on your system |
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| 17:34.14 | [AWAY]Mega[Work] | LSorensen ln -s /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy, for example |
| 17:34.15 | stew | we've been over this 3 or 4 times already |
| 17:34.17 | LSorensen | ma3x: it's often hdc or hda or whatever |
| 17:34.17 | [AWAY]Mega[Work] | correct peoples ? |
| 17:34.21 | zinx | ma3x: just a hint here.. windows doesn't need a /dev/dvd |
| 17:34.36 | Ecligprs | ... |
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| 17:34.47 | LSorensen | [AWAY]Mega[Work]: I would just do: ln -s fd0 floppy, inside /dev |
| 17:34.57 | ma3x | ok look |
| 17:35.01 | ma3x | why won't my /dev/hdc dvd play? |
| 17:35.09 | ma3x | i insert the dvd disc and it just wont play |
| 17:35.14 | Gumby | lol |
| 17:35.18 | LSorensen | ma3x: with what player program> |
| 17:35.21 | ma3x | vlc |
| 17:35.26 | LSorensen | ma3x: try mplayer. |
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| 17:35.31 | [AWAY]Mega[Work] | mpg123 |
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| 17:35.33 | LSorensen | ma3x: I don't know if vlc has css support |
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| 17:35.45 | Lee__ | you have to install it sepperately |
| 17:35.48 | LSorensen | ma3x: I don't know if you have libdvdread installed |
| 17:35.57 | ma3x | whats libdvdread for? |
| 17:36.01 | Lee__ | reading dvds |
| 17:36.02 | LSorensen | ma3x: you have to get those from marilat |
| 17:36.02 | ma3x | css support? |
| 17:36.06 | LSorensen | ma3x: yeah |
| 17:36.07 | DoppelGanger | but you do know the sky is blue on some days he he |
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| 17:36.28 | ma3x | LSorensen, is this the package libdvdread3 ? |
| 17:36.34 | LSorensen | ma3x: that is one of them yes |
| 17:36.46 | ma3x | libdvdread3 is already the newest version. |
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| 17:37.06 | LSorensen | ma3x: well did you try with mplayer? maybe vlc doesn't even support that lib with the way it is built |
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| 17:37.50 | Gumby | hrm, I am needed to edit an initrd that I created but gunzip initrd.img.blah /tmp/initrd is not working. Says its not a gzip archive. Does anyone have any recommendations? |
| 17:37.52 | ma3x | yeah mplayer works, but my configs are fucked up |
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| 17:39.04 | guimeau | hello |
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| 17:39.22 | Gumby | ma3x: then fix them |
| 17:39.30 | ma3x | if I would knew how |
| 17:39.43 | guimeau | anyone with ideas on mysql? |
| 17:39.45 | ma3x | i just instaleld from marillat and didnt touch anything |
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| 17:39.51 | ma3x | i dont know how they got messed up |
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| 17:40.14 | Thaiger | Whenever I startx it says could not open default font 'fixed'. I have a font server running and all the font paths in my XF86-Config file are there for both 75 and 100 dpi, but still no luck, Any advice? |
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| 17:40.26 | Angel-SL | how do I change the hostname? |
| 17:40.33 | stew | Gumby: initrd is typically a cramfs filesystem, mount it -o loop |
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| 17:40.51 | greycat | !faq Angel-SL |
| 17:40.51 | dpkg | Angel-SL: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 17:41.14 | Gumby | stew: ok, I've gotten that far. When I edit it, and try to save it says its read only. |
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| 17:41.21 | Gumby | stew: yet its mounted rw |
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| 17:41.25 | stew | Gumby: yes, cramfs is a readonly filesystem |
| 17:41.34 | stew | Gumby: its like iso9660 in that regard |
| 17:41.43 | Icke-B | hello |
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| 17:41.51 | stew | Gumby: you probaably want to make a new one man mkinitrd |
| 17:42.00 | Icke-B | one question do i have.. |
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| 17:42.16 | guimeau | anyone with ideas on mysql? |
| 17:42.20 | greycat | !any ideas |
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| 17:42.20 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of rutabagas, a little K-Y jelly, and a dozen rabid ostriches. And keep the cops off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 17:42.39 | Gumby | stew: hrm, I've done this before... I cant seem to find the URL that helped me. d'oh! |
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| 17:43.28 | guimeau | i try to run mysql as user, but i don't have permissions |
| 17:43.42 | guimeau | i can run it as root |
| 17:43.47 | stew | Gumby: here's a url: file:/usr/share/man/man8/mkinitrd.8.gz |
| 17:43.52 | Icke-B | x-se me, wich debian-cds of the 14cd´s should i have, to install a basic system? |
| 17:43.58 | greycat | one. |
| 17:44.08 | silensius | how to add a user to a groupe |
| 17:44.09 | Icke-B | thats all? |
| 17:44.17 | greycat | silensius: adduser username groupname, or vigr |
| 17:44.25 | silensius | ok |
| 17:44.33 | guimeau | i have done it |
| 17:44.38 | stew | guimeau: you type "mysql" at a shell and get "Permission denied"? |
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| 17:44.54 | guimeau | yes |
| 17:45.07 | arcane | Anyone in here ever used NIS? Having trouble updating my NIS tables. |
| 17:45.13 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 17:45.14 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 17:45.16 | stew | guimeau: what does "which mysql" say? |
| 17:45.20 | stew | guimeau: what version of debian |
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| 17:45.34 | guimeau | Access denied for user 'guimeau'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| 17:45.36 | Ecligprs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.58 | greycat | arcane: give details. |
| 17:46.05 | guimeau | i am running on Sid |
| 17:46.22 | stew | guimeau: did you create a username and password in the mysql db? |
| 17:46.34 | stew | guimeau: with a mysql "grant" statement? |
| 17:46.38 | warpig | i've heard rumours on the Internets that greycat never sleep |
| 17:46.41 | arcane | Am I supposed to run make in my domain dir or in /var/yp? |
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| 17:46.53 | guimeau | no |
| 17:46.55 | greycat | arcane: in /var/yp |
| 17:46.59 | karsten | I'm trying to work out how to support multiple simultaneous qemu instances (debian linux) with networking, where the current tun/tap configuration borks. |
| 17:47.01 | Angel-SL | !set the host |
| 17:47.05 | karsten | Specifically, it's assigning a seperate tun<n> device to the *same* IP for each seperate qemu instance. |
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| 17:47.08 | greycat | arcane: 'cause that's where the Makefile is. |
| 17:47.12 | karsten | Suggestions welcomed. |
| 17:47.19 | greycat | Angel-SL: it's in the damned FAQ. |
| 17:47.25 | greycat | Angel-SL: look under Networking |
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| 17:47.30 | arcane | ok. That will help me some! |
| 17:47.34 | arcane | Thank you |
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| 17:47.43 | stew | guimeau: read the README.Debian for mysql-server, and create a root password, then read about the mysql grant statement about how to create other users and give them permissions |
| 17:47.52 | adam_ | I've just put sarge on my laptop. It's all working perfectly except for the mouse. Using the touchpad, usb mouse or ps/2 mouse I get text to say the driver has detected the mouse and it gets added to dmesg, yet /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mice both report no device found. I've tried running ./MAKEDEV generic and I've compered the nodes to another debian pc and the numbers match. I'm running etch and I need a mouse or X won't run. Any ideas? |
| 17:48.01 | adam_ | sorry, etch not sarge on my laptop |
| 17:48.01 | guimeau | thanks |
| 17:48.02 | greycat | it's #7 on NetworkingPage |
| 17:48.25 | Angel-SL | greycat, i dont see Networking |
| 17:48.32 | stew | adam_: /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse ; /msg dpkg devinputmice ; /msg dpkg synaptics |
| 17:48.34 | greycat | !wikifaq Angel-SL NetworkingPage |
| 17:48.35 | dpkg | Angel-SL: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/NetworkingPage or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:48.35 | smo_ | i have this error when trying to compil superkaramba error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check what can i do?? |
| 17:48.41 | greycat | learn how to SEARCH in your web browser. |
| 17:48.45 | stew | !faq smo_ |
| 17:48.46 | dpkg | smo_: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:48.47 | Gumby | stew: haha, unfortunately... I dont see anywhere in there that tells me how to edit the linuxrc so that it has the info I need in it. Or how it creates the initrd itself |
| 17:49.06 | smo_ | already do that if i come here ;) |
| 17:49.39 | stew | !b-e smo_ |
| 17:49.40 | dpkg | smo_: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 17:49.48 | stew | Gumby: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:49.55 | stew | Gumby: what is linuxrc |
| 17:50.25 | Gumby | stew, I need to add a line to the linuxrc in my initrd file so I can enable software suspend on my laptop |
| 17:50.38 | greycat | I think you mean the boot parameters...? |
| 17:50.39 | stew | Gumby: using swsusp2? |
| 17:50.56 | Angel-SL | :O |
| 17:50.58 | Gumby | stew: yes, and I have done it before, I jsut lost the URL on how to properly edit the initrd image |
| 17:50.59 | Angel-SL | help |
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| 17:51.12 | Gumby | greycat: no, its something I specifically need to do to the initrd |
| 17:51.13 | stew | Gumby: it should have been with the swsusp2 documentation |
| 17:51.18 | Angel-SL | i just changed my hostname usong hostname command and now terminal wnt start' |
| 17:51.19 | Gumby | stew: its not |
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| 17:51.26 | greycat | Angel-SL: restart C |
| 17:51.28 | greycat | Angel-SL: restart X |
| 17:51.29 | greycat | damned fingers. |
| 17:51.44 | Gumby | not all systems use an initrd |
| 17:51.52 | stew | greycat: do you have write access to the wiki? the "error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" sould be added to the first question in section 3 on the homepage |
| 17:51.59 | greycat | stew: will do. |
| 17:52.05 | stew | greycat: thanks |
| 17:52.06 | Angel-SL | restart? |
| 17:52.14 | Angel-SL | C X? |
| 17:52.24 | Angel-SL | how? |
| 17:52.41 | Angel-SL | when the damned thing wont sttart |
| 17:52.49 | Angel-SL | i rather restart the system/ |
| 17:52.52 | Angel-SL | brb |
| 17:53.35 | greycat | for anyone listening in who didn't just vanish: ctrl-alt-backspace sometimes kills the X server. not always. |
| 17:54.02 | stew | Gumby: you have to do somehting like put a swsusp2 script in /etc/mkinitrd/??? or something |
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| 17:54.14 | greycat | and for future reference, it's usually a good idea to get OUT OF X if you are going to fuck with networking in any way. |
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| 17:54.53 | asg | !kill swatch.1p in sarge |
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| 17:55.55 | Lee__ | greycat: why would changing networking mess with X? |
| 17:56.02 | catlee | Is there a way to install all of the dependencies for a given .deb file (that apt doesn't know about) |
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| 17:56.06 | Gumby | stew: the command has to be run after proc, but before the root partition is mounted. which is all done in the initrd |
| 17:56.07 | Gumby | err |
| 17:56.09 | Gumby | linuxrc |
| 17:56.12 | greycat | Lee__: because it makes a network connection |
| 17:56.48 | Lee__ | true |
| 17:56.57 | Technel | Okay, I do "aptitude install apache2", but /etc/apache2 does not exist... |
| 17:57.02 | Lee__ | catlee: you have to make a list and install one by one. |
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| 17:57.33 | catlee | Lee__: Doh! |
| 17:58.15 | dondelelcaro | Technel: you had it installed previously at some point in time, most likely, and didn't use the --force-confmiss option. |
| 17:58.18 | dondelelcaro | !confmiss |
| 17:58.18 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 17:58.22 | Lee__ | catlee: that's the difference between dpkg and apt. apt manages deps for you. |
| 17:58.41 | catlee | Lee__: How hard would it be to get apt to install the dependencies for a given .deb file? |
| 17:58.50 | dondelelcaro | catlee: just use apt-get -f install; |
| 17:59.26 | Technel | dondelelcaro: Yes, I had it installed before. I did a purge. Now I am trying to re-install it. So I need to do "aptitude -f install apache2"? |
| 17:59.41 | stew | Gumby: i'm sure an obvious google search will turn up the info you are looking for |
| 18:00.00 | catlee | dondelelcaro: Sorry, I don't follow |
| 18:00.47 | stew | catlee: if you have missing dependencies, running "apt-get -f install" will install them provided your sources aren't broken |
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| 18:01.14 | Gumby | stew: it has yet to, anything that works anyhow |
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| 18:02.52 | stew | Gumby: http://ryandaigle.com/pebble/2005/01/17/1105995441172.html |
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| 18:02.52 | catlee | Hmm |
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| 18:03.00 | catlee | So if I do 'dpkg -i localpackage.deb' which has missing dependencies, I can then do 'apt-get -f install' after, and another 'dpkg -i'? |
| 18:03.34 | Technel | Okay, PID 3122 is aptitude, but when I do "kill 3122", it still shows up in ps -a |
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| 18:05.32 | tk-2 | is their a ftpd which has a gui interface ? |
| 18:06.03 | dondelelcaro | Technel: no, you need to read the output that dpkg gave you and use the confmiss option |
| 18:06.10 | Gumby | stew: the link given for the initrd file only works with swap partitions, I am using a swap file |
| 18:06.55 | Technel | dondelelcaro: Yes, but it says dpkg is locked, so I need to kill the process... |
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| 18:07.26 | dondelelcaro | Technel: well, so change to the process that is running dpkg, and stop it |
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| 18:09.14 | Technel | dondelelcaro: It was aptitude...and I did control+z...so the process still exists... |
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| 18:11.33 | Technel | dondelelcaro: Hence why I was trying to kill the process... |
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| 18:13.31 | dondelelcaro | Technel: so go to that shell and type 'fg' |
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| 18:16.03 | Technel | dondelelcaro: The command you gave me still did not create /etc/apache2..? |
| 18:16.10 | Technel | apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2 |
| 18:16.14 | ke6isf | tk-2: Why do you need an ftpd with a gui? |
| 18:16.36 | dondelelcaro | Technel: you need to reinstall apache2-common. |
| 18:16.50 | Ecligprs | there are guis for ftpds but they suck at least as much as the ftpds |
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| 18:17.04 | ke6isf | Ecligprs: All software sucks. |
| 18:17.05 | umit | LSorensen, hi, linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 and - 686 need a directory which is /boot/-2.6 |
| 18:17.12 | Ecligprs | ke6isf, word |
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| 18:17.17 | Technel | dondelelcaro: Alright, that worked. Thanks |
| 18:18.04 | umit | LSorensen, when i made /boot/-2.6 (mkdir /boot/-2.6), it works:) Everything is fine, thnx |
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| 18:18.52 | Technel | dondelelcaro: Hmm, I do /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and http://localhost/ says connection refused... |
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| 18:19.58 | Sup3rFly | I get some errors during boot that say" wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on tmpfs missing ..... " it flys back really fast.... doesn't show up in dmesg. any ideas what the issue could be? |
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| 18:20.26 | umit | why did change names of kernel , kernel-image to linux-image? are we gonna see other kernels such as hurd,netbsd,etc? |
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| 18:20.51 | ke6isf | tk-2: There are graphical front ends such as Webmin, but webmin tends to be a pain in the arse. Besides, GUIs remove the simplicity. Stick with text config files and the manual. |
| 18:21.06 | beardy | umit: That's probably the reason yes. |
| 18:21.18 | umit | beardy, i like it!:) |
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| 18:23.15 | Supaplex | .o are object files, what are .a files again? |
| 18:23.16 | piukeman | - |
| 18:23.24 | greycat | ar(1) archives |
| 18:23.34 | piukeman | hey guys can some one advise me ..I need a *nix shell ...free ..can someone help where to get one :) |
| 18:23.44 | carbon60 | What's the simplest way to get a traffic breakdown on a router? I'm trying to figure out what is causing some massive usage overages. |
| 18:23.49 | greycat | piukeman: install debian. |
| 18:23.52 | Supaplex | commonly ar archives of .o files, right? |
| 18:23.58 | greycat | Supaplex: yes |
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| 18:24.11 | Supaplex | where do they normally reside? |
| 18:24.16 | greycat | in the source directory |
| 18:24.17 | ke6isf | piukeman: You can install Debian and have one right in front of you. =^^= |
| 18:24.19 | piukeman | greycat, i have debian.....i need a remote shell :) |
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| 18:24.31 | piukeman | i have debian |
| 18:24.45 | ke6isf | piukeman: Google for "Free shell accounts" |
| 18:24.49 | piukeman | i need a remote one with bitchx is possible |
| 18:24.55 | Lennie | would this be the place, if I wanted some help with a dpkg-dependency problem ? |
| 18:24.56 | rob_lt | Is there a way to add the latex fonts in /usr/share/texmf/ so that they are available system wide? I tried reading the defoma man page, but I'm not sure if I'm going in the right direction. |
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| 18:25.16 | greycat | piukeman: you'd better ask for the uber-l33t package while you're (excuse me... ur) at it.' |
| 18:25.17 | piukeman | ke6isf, i google for information but i was asking for an advise .. |
| 18:25.48 | ke6isf | piukeman: The only machines I have shell accounts on are either machines belonging to friends or my own. |
| 18:26.04 | ke6isf | piukeman: As far as advice, I gave it to you. Google. |
| 18:26.07 | piukeman | ke6isf, ok :) thanks |
| 18:26.09 | greycat | for me, it's my personal machines, or the ones at work. and work's NATted. |
| 18:26.15 | piukeman | ok thanks |
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| 18:27.50 | fseek | 'lo |
| 18:28.02 | trosenbl | hey, i know this isn't the freenode help channel, but this looked like the first channel i saw that would have people who would know this. what are alternate ports for freenode? i can't seem to connect because my work blocks standard irc ports |
| 18:28.19 | greycat | 7000 is one. |
| 18:28.20 | ke6isf | trosenbl: Ask in #freenode. |
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| 18:28.59 | trosenbl | okay, thanks |
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| 18:29.51 | pepsi | how do i get a flash drive to work? |
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| 18:30.02 | mrgenixus | pepsi: define "get |
| 18:30.02 | stew | pepsi: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 18:30.12 | mrgenixus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.21 | trosenbl | yeah. not be a bastard, but i can't send to #freenode. |
| 18:30.29 | deadcat | lot of people use rxvt right? why is it an Orphaned package? |
| 18:30.33 | greycat | ke6isf: /topic #freenode |
| 18:30.36 | stew | ke6isf: N= noident http://freenode.net/news.shtml |
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| 18:30.47 | ke6isf | Ah, OK. |
| 18:30.54 | ke6isf | gotta go to work. |
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| 18:31.06 | Lennie | would this be the place, if I wanted some help with a dpkg-dependency problem ? |
| 18:31.26 | Ecligprs | probably |
| 18:31.45 | Lennie | I have a sparc-machine here... with a 2.2 kernel |
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| 18:31.56 | CountZ | Can someone please tell me how to fix this? |
| 18:31.57 | CountZ | ldd /usr/sbin/sshd |
| 18:31.57 | CountZ | /usr/sbin/sshd: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14 |
| 18:31.58 | abrotman | Lennie: you can ask here . or #debian-sparc |
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| 18:32.19 | abrotman | !find libcrypto.so.0.9.7 sarge |
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| 18:32.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libcrypto.so.0.9.7' (1): (/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7, /usr/lib/i486/libcrypto.so.0.9.7, /usr/lib/i586/libcrypto.so.0.9.7) in libs/libssl0.9.7. |
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| 18:32.32 | stew | CountZ: what version of debian? |
| 18:32.34 | Lennie | when I want to install a 2.4-kernel it says, install a newer libc6, but the newer libc6 says, your CPU requires a newer kernel for this libc6 |
| 18:32.48 | Lennie | abrotman: ahh, ok, I'll also try there... |
| 18:32.48 | Ecligprs | haha |
| 18:32.59 | CountZ | stew: I am affraid someone switched to 'unstable' for a while |
| 18:33.05 | CountZ | stew: I switched back to 'stable' now |
| 18:33.11 | abrotman | you can't 'switch back' |
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| 18:33.24 | CountZ | abrotman: I uninstalled libssl/ssh |
| 18:33.32 | stew | CountZ: that's why stuff is broken, downgrade is not supported, you can either go back to unstable or reinstall |
| 18:33.40 | CountZ | hrm. |
| 18:33.50 | CountZ | ok so i'll go back to unstable. how do I fix this in unstable? |
| 18:33.51 | smcavoy | should I be able to switch versions of gcc being used by running update-alternatives --config cc ? |
| 18:34.06 | smcavoy | I get |
| 18:34.08 | smcavoy | There is only 1 program which provides cc |
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| 18:34.24 | Sup3rFly | what's the best way to convert a drive from ext2 to ext3? |
| 18:34.29 | cddesjar | does anyone use the marillat repositories to get mplayer and if they are how do i set it up with synaptic? i /msg dpkg mplayer then marillat, and add this deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main but it tells me that i am timing out when i try to reload synpatic |
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| 18:34.33 | stew | Sup3rFly: /msg dpkg ext2->ext3 |
| 18:34.36 | smcavoy | Sup3rFly: tunefs |
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| 18:35.09 | Sup3rFly | /msg dpkg ext2->ext3 |
| 18:35.09 | Sup3rFly | <smcavoy> Sup3rFly: tunefs |
| 18:35.10 | stew | cddesjar: that repository is often overloaded, retry it a few times |
| 18:35.13 | Sup3rFly | er damn |
| 18:35.20 | pepsi | stew, i get "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error" |
| 18:35.38 | pepsi | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb |
| 18:35.42 | stew | pepsi: try /dev/sda |
| 18:35.44 | cddesjar | oh i figured it out...it cause i was there with synaptic and with firefox and once i quit firefox it let me through |
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| 18:35.55 | pepsi | stew, nope :/ |
| 18:35.55 | stew | pepsi: or try fdisk -l : and see what partitions it sees |
| 18:35.59 | bobstay | "gcc/g++ 4.0 with new ABI in sid; beware breakage" <-- would that be why I'm getting "E: Couldn't download libsigc++-1.2-5c102" when I'm debootstrapping sid? |
| 18:36.25 | smcavoy | so any ideas about update-alternatives ? it seems It should just work.... |
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| 18:37.13 | pepsi | stew, shows FAT16 on /dev/sda1 :/ |
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| 18:37.23 | greycat | bobstay: could be. |
| 18:37.30 | mrgenixus | is the debain dev working on beagle here? |
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| 18:37.38 | greycat | !maint beagle |
| 18:37.40 | dpkg | beagle: Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <jsogo@debian.org> |
| 18:37.44 | stew | pepsi: try mounting /dev/sda1 with out the -t or try with -t msdos |
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| 18:37.52 | bobstay | greycat: so I should just wait and hope someone fixes it? |
| 18:37.53 | xerophyte | does anybody know what kind of webmail client does the openxchange use ? |
| 18:38.08 | mrgenixus | greycat: thanks, is there a list online of dpkg commands (the bot, not the program)? |
| 18:38.10 | greycat | bobstay: you could check the BTS |
| 18:38.24 | greycat | mrgenixus: /msg dpkg help |
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| 18:38.46 | mrgenixus | greycat: thanks |
| 18:39.02 | N00BJustInst | Does ne1 have any experience with proxychains? |
| 18:39.34 | greycat | no, ne1 doesn't have experience with shit. he's a total retard. |
| 18:39.51 | N00BJustInst | i managed to get http traffic working but i can't get apt-get update to work as proxychains echos in the terminal and disrupts the process |
| 18:39.59 | rob_lt | I thought ne1 got banned like 3 weeks ago |
| 18:40.17 | N00BJustInst | lol - i meant anyone! |
| 18:40.22 | s_ward | hmm |
| 18:40.23 | s_ward | !ne1 |
| 18:40.24 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 18:40.33 | s_ward | nice :) |
| 18:40.45 | N00BJustInst | ne1 as in any1 as in anyone |
| 18:40.50 | Epse | hello |
| 18:40.50 | stew | !any1 |
| 18:40.51 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 18:40.53 | greycat | !anyone us3e |
| 18:40.54 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 18:40.55 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 18:41.00 | greycat | !ask |
| 18:41.00 | pepsi | gah..i have no time for this.. ill fight with it later |
| 18:41.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:41.04 | Sup3rFly | crap. i still don't know why I'm getting mount errors during boot.... they don't show up in /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg. :( any other place i can find them? |
| 18:41.09 | cddesjar | do i need to install some special package to get a GUI for mplayer? |
| 18:41.15 | pepsi | jesus, could this bot be any noisier? |
| 18:41.24 | greycat | cddesjar: given that you need special packages to get mplayer itself, I'd say "yes". |
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| 18:41.33 | Epse | just one question is there a possibility to send an AT command to a modem from a normal console and save the answer in a file? |
| 18:41.33 | stew | !irritate pepsi |
| 18:41.34 | dpkg | pepsi: HELP ME!!! how can I make my lindows werkz U FUX0RZ |
| 18:41.46 | jefe486 | lmfao! |
| 18:41.49 | pepsi | i guess it can |
| 18:41.54 | mac_ | ho to all |
| 18:41.55 | cddesjar | argh greycat...you always give such smart ass remarks. i install mplayer-386 and it doesn't come with a GUI |
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| 18:42.03 | cddesjar | or at least i didn't get one with it |
| 18:42.11 | mac_ | hi to all |
| 18:42.14 | fseek | I'd like dpkg to be banned, he's spamming the channel |
| 18:42.18 | N00BJustInst | or even tsocks - how to i set that up? |
| 18:42.28 | mac_ | Anyone can help me with a problem using X-Chat? |
| 18:42.38 | defcon8 | anyone know a purely addictive puzzle game for linux? |
| 18:42.39 | rob_lt | cddesjar: gmplayer is in the mplayer-586 package |
| 18:42.44 | rob_lt | !tell cddesjar about marillat |
| 18:42.46 | stew | cddesjar: the marillat packages come with gmplayer |
| 18:42.57 | beardy | Epse: Use minicom, and save it's screen to a file. |
| 18:42.59 | greycat | fseek: /ignore him |
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| 18:43.19 | greycat | defcon8: tetris? |
| 18:43.20 | fseek | yeh :) only joking, nothing better to do... |
| 18:43.29 | Epse | hmmm thats not what i need... it shoud go automaticly for a script |
| 18:43.30 | defcon8 | greycat, naah something better |
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| 18:43.39 | defcon8 | i played that too muh as a child |
| 18:43.43 | Justin | !+mplayer paradox |
| 18:43.43 | dpkg | [mplayer paradox] windows users think the lack of a bloated GUI in mplayer.exe is the coolset thing ever, while new linux users complain that it is missing a GUI |
| 18:43.52 | jefe486 | dpkg: 'pepsi: HELP ME!!! how can I make my lindows werkz U FUX0R' that made my day |
| 18:44.01 | N00BJustInst | greycat; i managed to get my brwsers working - i had to use proxychains which apparently just redirects traffic through the proxy server |
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| 18:44.06 | stew | defcon8: nethack |
| 18:44.11 | s_ward | We could encourage people to /msg dpkg instead of asking him in the channel... |
| 18:44.13 | greycat | Epse: the problem is that when you echo to the device, that already redirects stdout, so it's tricky to redirect it again for the response. |
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| 18:44.17 | defcon8 | stew, i play d&d and its not puzzle really is it |
| 18:44.18 | markl | stew: aka careerender |
| 18:44.21 | mugur | are the mime types br0ken in Sid? |
| 18:44.22 | rob_lt | defcon8: there is a blackjack game that's not bad, and it even knows the basic strategy and will tell you if you are playing correctly. Start learning how to count cards, and you've got months of wasted time ahead of you. |
| 18:44.26 | greycat | Epse: I gave up after about 20 seconds of trying. Google. |
| 18:44.26 | beardy | Epse: Perhaps google can give you a suggestion of a simpler program that does what you want, I don't know of any. |
| 18:44.39 | mugur | a lot of file types are now application/octet-stream after an update... |
| 18:44.40 | markl | is there a way to make apt grab the bzip version of the package lists? |
| 18:44.41 | stew | defcon8: m-x dunnet |
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| 18:44.54 | mugur | the problem is, I don't know which update :) |
| 18:45.00 | greycat | defcon8: various solitaires, too |
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| 18:45.12 | markl | i have a source that only has a bzip copy and apt is angry about it |
| 18:45.14 | greycat | probably several minesweeper clones |
| 18:45.28 | defcon8 | i dun like solitaires so much. what was that bust a move clone called agaijn |
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| 18:45.50 | Epse | i even dont ;) thats why im here |
| 18:45.58 | bobstay | maybe I should use the netinst CD... |
| 18:46.01 | rob_lt | defcon8: or if your system can handle it, Enemy Territory is _very_ addictive |
| 18:46.04 | mac_ | hi to all again |
| 18:46.08 | beardy | markl: Do you have bzip2 installed? |
| 18:46.13 | LabThug | Does anyone in here use autovacuum from the PostgreSQL 8.x packages? |
| 18:46.13 | fseek | try this, if you don't know it yet: http://abc.net.au/gameon/chasm/chasmgame.htm |
| 18:46.16 | mac_ | Anyone can help me with a problem using X-Chat? |
| 18:46.20 | arcane | How do i know if i am using shadow passwords? |
| 18:46.31 | fseek | swf ... |
| 18:46.31 | smcavoy | can someone tell me if I'm crazy: after install a second gcc pacakge should not be able to select which one is the default via update-alternatives ? |
| 18:46.34 | greycat | lincity-ng was just added to sid according to DWN. I haven't played -ng yet, and the data package is FUCKING HUGE. |
| 18:46.41 | rob_lt | mac_: not unless you actually state what your problem is |
| 18:46.42 | greycat | but lincity was good. |
| 18:46.48 | LabThug | arcane: look for /etc/shadow |
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| 18:46.53 | arcane | ok |
| 18:46.54 | beardy | arcane: ls -la /etc/shadow |
| 18:47.07 | Skiver | hi, how can i access a dvd-ram via my dvd-recorder ? mount it ? |
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| 18:47.42 | deedend | hi at all |
| 18:47.43 | mac_ | i'm traing to conect to a certain server of chat, however it gives me as answer: NO Privileges! |
| 18:47.58 | lYlandark | Hi, a problem with my network, on sarge : i have permanently "watchdog : eth0 : nic link is down ... nic link is up, nic link is down ... nic link is up" etc ... |
| 18:48.08 | deedend | I have a problem with a wireless card ipw2200 and debian, anyone can help me? |
| 18:48.37 | markl | beardy: it is a problem with apt downloading the pkg list |
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| 18:49.00 | lYlandark | anyone can help me ? |
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| 18:49.09 | LabThug | Does anyone in here use autovacuum from the PostgreSQL 8.x packages? I need to know how to supply it with a username and password? |
| 18:49.15 | cddesjar | crap i have no sound with the mplayer plugin for firefox |
| 18:49.21 | mac_ | anyone can help me? |
| 18:49.36 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 18:49.36 | dpkg | VAGUENESS CAUSES ANAL LEAKAGE! |
| 18:49.41 | asg | tasty |
| 18:50.16 | LabThug | wasn't anal leakage caused by Olestra? |
| 18:50.24 | smcavoy | approved by the fda |
| 18:50.31 | jefe486 | LabThug.. I read about that |
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| 18:50.50 | mac_ | i'm traing to conect to a certain server of chat, however it gives me as answer: NO Privileges! Why this happens? |
| 18:51.10 | asg | mac_: see the bit above about ANAL LEAKAGE (and be more specific) |
| 18:51.13 | lYlandark | no one can help me with : a problem with my network, on sarge : i have permanently "watchdog : eth0 : nic link is down ... nic link is up, nic link is down ... nic link is up" ? |
| 18:51.22 | smcavoy | mac_: because you are vauge and confusing |
| 18:51.25 | greycat | mac_: use a different chat server, then. |
| 18:51.39 | mac_ | yes i'm a newbie |
| 18:51.53 | deedend | no one have problems with ipw2200 and debian??? |
| 18:51.58 | greycat | !ipw2200 |
| 18:51.59 | dpkg | i guess ipw2200 is a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: 'apt-get install ipw2200-source', build with module-assistant. Download and install the firmware as you get told during install. For help try #ipw2100 or http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net. |
| 18:52.00 | arcane | linux people live for being rude to newbies |
| 18:52.13 | greycat | arcane: troll elsewhere please. |
| 18:52.17 | LabThug | mac_ either the problem is with your chat program, or with your chat server, since you can connect to here, it kinda narrows down the problem |
| 18:52.19 | arcane | troll? |
| 18:52.36 | asg | arcane: google for jargon file |
| 18:52.38 | mac_ | i'm trying to enter in chat.mediacapital.pt using X-Chat, however the server disconect and gives as answer: NO PRIVILEGES! |
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| 18:52.52 | Justin | LabThug: unless postgres 8.0 is radically different from 7.x, autovacuum doesn't need a username and password |
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| 18:53.02 | deedend | I have tried to do what is in that documentation... |
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| 18:53.18 | greycat | shit, I forgot. I can't connect to port 6667 from work. |
| 18:53.24 | LabThug | Justin, since it connects as root and I have no root user in my postgres db, I think it does differ :-) |
| 18:53.27 | mac_ | how can i know the correct port? |
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| 18:53.38 | Justin | LabThug: shouldn't it run as user postgres? |
| 18:53.42 | greycat | mac_: ask whoever gave you that server name in the first place |
| 18:53.42 | mac_ | i'm using port 7000 but i already try port 6667! |
| 18:53.47 | Justin | greycat: what idiots think blocking port 6667 is a good idea? |
| 18:53.48 | LabThug | Justin, maybe so, but it isn't |
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| 18:54.15 | greycat | Justin: they also have a layer 7 filter that causes my session to get the axe once it becomes clear that it's IRC, even on a different port. That's why I ssh tunnel it now. |
| 18:54.15 | mac_ | X-Chat gives the name |
| 18:54.35 | defcon8 | rob_lt, ET was a wast of life for me |
| 18:54.45 | defcon8 | i love the game but its a waste of life |
| 18:54.47 | mac_ | when i conect to chat.iol.pt X-Chat gives the server name as chat.mediacapital.pt! |
| 18:54.53 | c01100011 | i am having trouble setting up mysql in debian, i installed mysql-client , mysql-server and admin when i try to connect in admin i recieve "can't connect to localmysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock(2), i ping localhost fine, |
| 18:54.54 | mugur | hmmm, so the mime types are broken only on my computer? :) |
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| 18:55.03 | smox | hii all |
| 18:55.07 | Justin | greycat: ah yeah.. layer 7 devices are great :-) too many clueless security people just block 6667 and think they accomplished something |
| 18:55.13 | umit | hi, i m using unstable, i have upgraded my system with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, but then i saw some packages with apt-get dist-upgrade, i did apt-get dist-upgrade before, should i do dist-upgrade regularly? |
| 18:55.29 | smox | no |
| 18:55.33 | smox | just one |
| 18:55.37 | smox | when u upgrade |
| 18:55.46 | smox | after is apt-get upgrade |
| 18:55.46 | karsten | greycat: You been to LWE yet? |
| 18:55.50 | greycat | Justin: well, they do both. and they transparent-proxy port 80. and certain domains on port 80 cause a "Human Resources warning page" to show up in the browser. |
| 18:56.00 | mac_ | greycat: if you go to www.iol.pt/chat.php you find there the chat that i'm talking about and use a plugin of java! |
| 18:56.00 | greycat | karsten: no |
| 18:56.04 | karsten | greycat: Go! |
| 18:56.04 | smcavoy | can someone tell me if I'm crazy: after install a second gcc pacakge should not be able to select which one is the default via update-alternatives --config cc ? It keeps telling me there is only one option when multiple compilers are installed (2.95,3.3,3.4) |
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| 18:56.16 | mugur | if one package modifies it's dependencies, it won't be installed with apt-get update |
| 18:56.17 | cddesjar | if i wanted to install alsa, which packages would i need to install |
| 18:56.22 | mugur | only with dist-upgrade |
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| 18:56.29 | greycat | cddesjar: /msg dpkg alsa |
| 18:56.30 | smox | cddesjar, apt-cache search alsa |
| 18:56.39 | cddesjar | i did /msg dpkg alsa |
| 18:56.40 | cddesjar | thanks |
| 18:56.48 | cddesjar | i got no response |
| 18:56.48 | LabThug | Justin, is there an /etc/postgresql-common/autovacuum.conf file on the 7.x version? |
| 18:56.50 | umit | mugur, telling me? |
| 18:56.52 | lYlandark | i am having trouble with my network, on sarge : i have permanently "watchdog : eth0 : nic link is down ... nic link is up, nic link is down ... nic link is up" |
| 18:57.06 | lYlandark | somone have idea ? |
| 18:57.15 | smox | lYlandark, youre cable ... |
| 18:57.16 | LabThug | check the cable, see if it's frayed |
| 18:57.23 | Justin | LabThug: no, the autovacumm settings are in /etc/postgresql/postmaster.conf |
| 18:57.23 | lYlandark | cable checked ( changed ) |
| 18:57.31 | smox | switch ? |
| 18:57.35 | lYlandark | checked |
| 18:57.41 | greycat | Eeek. There goes my Debian box. |
| 18:57.41 | mugur | umit: yap |
| 18:57.42 | lYlandark | ( port changed, all other ports are ok ) |
| 18:57.43 | smox | network card .. |
| 18:57.51 | LabThug | Justin, yeah, they changed it in 8.x |
| 18:58.03 | Justin | LabThug: and /etc/init.d/postgresql runs /sbin/start-stop-daemon --oknodo --chuid postgres --exec $PG_AUTOVACUUM --start -- $OPTS |
| 18:58.10 | greycat | the openbsd box is on a UPS (and the DSL modem too) |
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| 18:58.17 | umit | mugur, hmm, then i should use apt-get dist-upgrade sometime? |
| 18:58.17 | lYlandark | network card is my mother card ( p5nd2 sli deluxe ) |
| 18:58.22 | lYlandark | i cant change it :X |
| 18:58.24 | smox | if it's not the cable and not the switch |
| 18:58.27 | mugur | umit: i prefer doing dist-upgrade, but i'm runing unstable, and the dependencies are modified quite often |
| 18:58.38 | smox | it the net card |
| 18:58.43 | mac_ | anyone can help me please? |
| 18:58.44 | smox | try another one |
| 18:58.51 | fseek | greycat using pppoe ? |
| 18:58.52 | mugur | umit: if you run stable, than just "upgrade" would be enoough |
| 18:58.54 | websdale | cddesjar: yes, I just tried /msg dpkg alsa & you get no response |
| 18:59.01 | lYlandark | oki, we can't check if it's software ? |
| 18:59.10 | LabThug | Justin, 8.x is very diff. /etc/init.d/postgresql8.0 calls /usr/share/postgresql-common/init.d-functions |
| 18:59.10 | smox | impossible |
| 18:59.11 | cddesjar | greycat is just a dick anyways |
| 18:59.13 | greycat | fseek: yes unfortunately |
| 18:59.20 | umit | mugur, which one should i use first? upgrade or dist-uprade after update? |
| 18:59.22 | greycat | cddesjar: no, I'm a spleen too. |
| 18:59.23 | smox | it's a hardware msg |
| 18:59.29 | fseek | greycat did you ever get performance problems with that setup ? |
| 18:59.30 | lYlandark | Ok |
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| 18:59.52 | mugur | umit: use "upgrade", and if you get "package X is kept back", than do a dist-upgrade |
| 18:59.55 | smox | this msg say that he lost the phisyk connectiviti |
| 19:00.00 | greycat | fseek: it's a 512/256 ADSL so the bottleneck isn't the PPPoE, but I don't *quite* get the full 256k up. More like 230k. |
| 19:00.02 | mugur | umit: to solve that |
| 19:00.06 | umit | mugur, u r the man:) |
| 19:00.06 | lYlandark | ok |
| 19:00.07 | stew | mugur: or you do apt-get install package X |
| 19:00.10 | mac_ | greycat did you can help me with my problem? |
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| 19:00.17 | smox | sorry for my english |
| 19:00.19 | greycat | fseek: and I have to PF it down to something like 210 to get decent interactive latency |
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| 19:00.22 | smox | im french |
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| 19:00.27 | lYlandark | ok ca va être plus simple alors |
| 19:00.31 | smox | MDR |
| 19:00.33 | lYlandark | MDR |
| 19:00.34 | smox | les boulet |
| 19:00.36 | marcelk | hi |
| 19:00.39 | mugur | so no mime broken to anyone, huh? :) |
| 19:00.45 | greycat | mac_: I can't easily test it from here. I'm at work and I have to tunnel through my home box just to get to freenode. Ask whoever gave you that server name. Maybe it's private. |
| 19:00.46 | BourneAgain1 | Is iptables the latest method to use for ip forwarding in Debian? |
| 19:00.48 | smox | bon en gros , c pas softwxare |
| 19:00.51 | lYlandark | Bon, je voulais dire qu'êtrangement le message est trés cyclique, |
| 19:00.51 | marcelk | how do i disable the gamin fam tool in gnome?? |
| 19:00.53 | stew | greycat: i used to run a 7mb/s line over pppoe and pppoe was still not a big overhead |
| 19:00.54 | greycat | !fr |
| 19:00.54 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 19:00.55 | smox | ta se message la generalement |
| 19:00.58 | lYlandark | c'est environ toutes les 10 secondes |
| 19:00.59 | smox | kd tu deplug le cable |
| 19:00.59 | fseek | greycat ah ok, I encountered problems in the past with 1,2Mbit/256kbit, but I used a slow pc... |
| 19:01.10 | smox | ok |
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| 19:01.25 | mac_ | greycat thanks! |
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| 19:01.40 | fseek | now I think the problem is solved, they imported the pppoe kernel stack from netbsd |
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| 19:01.46 | arcane | greycat, i think i know what trolling is now :P. Not sure how i should take it tho... |
| 19:01.49 | lYlandark | alors le fait que le message soit trés régulier m'étonne que ca soit physique |
| 19:01.52 | marcelk | how do i disable the gamin fam tool in gnome?? |
| 19:01.53 | greycat | arcane: just stop doing it. |
| 19:01.55 | {^RjArL^} | hi all |
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| 19:02.01 | BourneAgain1 | I am just wondering about iptables because doing a web search listed a whole lot of other method for routing. As if Debian was changing its mind. Just wondering if ip tables is the lastest. |
| 19:02.02 | smox | moi sa metonne pas |
| 19:02.08 | websdale | !alsa |
| 19:02.10 | {^RjArL^} | need help finding something at debian.org |
| 19:02.15 | abrotman | !fr |
| 19:02.15 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 19:02.17 | greycat | smox: /j #debian-france |
| 19:02.25 | arcane | greycat, sure! Didnt know it would bother you that much. I am sorry! |
| 19:02.26 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: ask |
| 19:02.28 | fseek | bye all :) |
| 19:02.36 | smox | greycat, im on it |
| 19:02.39 | mac_ | Folks...i'm trying to enter in a chat room that exist in www.iol.pt/chat.php using X-Chat! I think that is impossible...but anyone know anyway to enter there using X-Chat? |
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| 19:02.49 | {^RjArL^} | I want to know if debian stable alows to install java 5 package |
| 19:02.51 | lYlandark | ah ? |
| 19:02.52 | smox | but they are die |
| 19:02.54 | {^RjArL^} | and postgreSQL 8.0 |
| 19:02.54 | c01100011 | thanks abrotman, i was going to do it but i wasn't sure it was french |
| 19:03.02 | abrotman | c01100011: /whois |
| 19:03.20 | mac_ | I appreciate if anyone could help me! |
| 19:03.20 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: java5 yes .. postgres8 .. unofficially and unsupported |
| 19:03.22 | {^RjArL^} | now I'm at http://packages.debian.org/stable/ |
| 19:03.33 | abrotman | !tell {^RjArL^} about java |
| 19:03.35 | greycat | {^RjArL^}: they won't be packaged *IN* stable. |
| 19:03.37 | abrotman | !tell {^RjArL^} about install java |
| 19:03.45 | greycat | Debian can't distribute Sun Java pacakges *at all*. |
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| 19:04.01 | abrotman | iirc .. noone can |
| 19:04.01 | LabThug | {^RjArL^}: I'm running pgsql 8.x on Sarge. |
| 19:04.06 | smox | so , i have a little question ( its not about debian but it's the distro i use ) |
| 19:04.14 | LabThug | trying to get autovacuum to run though |
| 19:04.24 | smox | how can i compile a generic binary for many x86 box |
| 19:04.43 | abrotman | smox: you mean .. statically? |
| 19:05.01 | stew | mac_: did you try connecting to chat.iol.pt and joining #iol? |
| 19:05.07 | {^RjArL^} | LabThug: Sarge is Stable? |
| 19:05.07 | marcelk | how do i disable the gamin fam tool in gnome? |
| 19:05.14 | LabThug | {^RjArL^}: yes |
| 19:05.16 | cougar` | Hello all |
| 19:05.21 | mac_ | stew yes i already try |
| 19:05.26 | cougar` | How do I update a package via apt-get? |
| 19:05.27 | smox | i mean , take my binary , put in the box and run it , no recompilation from scratch |
| 19:05.33 | LabThug | I had to point my /etc/apt/sources.lst file to unstable to install them though |
| 19:05.37 | panthera | {^RjArL^}: there are unofficial packags of j2se at http://www.debian-unofficial.org/ |
| 19:05.37 | abrotman | marcelk: uninstall it ? |
| 19:05.41 | deadcat | cougar`: apt-get update && apt-get install packagename |
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| 19:05.44 | BourneAgain1 | http://ticallion.cookinglinux.org/pub/iptables-tutorial/ <--- page can not be displayed |
| 19:05.46 | marcelk | abrotman, that would remove gnome |
| 19:05.46 | und0 | marcelk: kill it |
| 19:05.52 | c01100011 | smox - i ran across a few good howto's for compiling x86 binarys a while ago, i don't remember where but a little googling could do the trick |
| 19:05.52 | mac_ | i think that i need to know what port is really used! |
| 19:05.52 | abrotman | LabThug: DON'T tell him to do that |
| 19:05.54 | marcelk | und0, every time? |
| 19:05.58 | cougar` | thanks debhelper |
| 19:05.59 | {^RjArL^} | aha, ok |
| 19:06.00 | cougar` | err |
| 19:06.02 | abrotman | marcelk: gnome is a metapackage |
| 19:06.06 | cougar` | thanks deadcat |
| 19:06.09 | LabThug | abrotman: why not, worked for me? |
| 19:06.12 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: what LabThug is suggesting could seriously fuck up your box |
| 19:06.17 | und0 | marcelk: if respawn, modify your session and save it on logout |
| 19:06.23 | marcelk | abrotman, if i remove gamin, it will remove all other gnome packages, i dont want that |
| 19:06.24 | BourneAgain1 | Ok, I assume IP Tables is the way to do :) |
| 19:06.24 | smox | i have also googling |
| 19:06.29 | abrotman | LabThug: good .. you will be here every day to support him if it goes badly? |
| 19:06.32 | *** part/#debian NachE (n=nache@249.Red-83-43-163.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:06.37 | abrotman | wtf is gamin? |
| 19:06.39 | abrotman | !info gamin |
| 19:06.39 | smox | but in french there is no many result |
| 19:06.41 | dpkg | gamin: (File and directory monitoring system), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.1.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
| 19:06.56 | mac_ | stew: could you see if you can enter ther using X-Chat? |
| 19:06.56 | abrotman | marcelk: gnome and gnome-desktop etc are just metapackages |
| 19:07.01 | {^RjArL^} | [abrotman] I have to decide betweet deban and redHat |
| 19:07.08 | LabThug | abrotman, maybe not everyday, but if it breaks for me, I'll be here ;-) |
| 19:07.13 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: do you *need* pgsql8 ? |
| 19:07.21 | {^RjArL^} | yes |
| 19:07.21 | abrotman | LabThug: then don't suggest something ilke that |
| 19:07.26 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: for what?> |
| 19:07.32 | marcelk | abrotman, do you have gnome? try typing in apt-get remove gamin, and see what it will remove |
| 19:07.39 | {^RjArL^} | database |
| 19:07.42 | abrotman | marcelk: not on this system i don't |
| 19:07.46 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: why not pgsql7.x ? |
| 19:07.57 | {^RjArL^} | all the applications at our architecture uses postgre 8 |
| 19:08.01 | {^RjArL^} | yes... |
| 19:08.01 | abrotman | why? |
| 19:08.05 | {^RjArL^} | we update |
| 19:08.11 | {^RjArL^} | to postgres 8.0 |
| 19:08.15 | abrotman | so far .. i see no reason you can't use 7.x |
| 19:08.38 | LabThug | 8.x has point in time recovery numerous bug/performance fixes |
| 19:08.41 | {^RjArL^} | i don't was the technical leader |
| 19:08.42 | abrotman | LabThug: i know that .. |
| 19:08.52 | abrotman | LabThug: he hasn't given a reason to risk trashing a box |
| 19:08.52 | LabThug | we need some of those |
| 19:08.59 | {^RjArL^} | now I'm and need to migrate machines to otyher datacenter |
| 19:09.11 | marcelk | abrotman, see at #flodo |
| 19:09.13 | marcelk | abrotman, see at #flood what it will remove |
| 19:09.19 | {^RjArL^} | the datacenter offers us Debian |
| 19:09.20 | FieldySnuts | @annoy abrotman |
| 19:09.21 | ravenbird | abrotman: Oooooh, aaah, Hmmm???? |
| 19:09.23 | {^RjArL^} | o redHat |
| 19:09.26 | abrotman | marcelk: you have to wait for me to join |
| 19:09.30 | FieldySnuts | clear choice there |
| 19:09.36 | greycat | {^RjArL^}: if the version of Application Z that you need isn't in Debian, just build it from source like any sane Unix admin has been doing for 30 years. |
| 19:09.42 | FieldySnuts | only 2 choices? nice datacenter not |
| 19:09.49 | LabThug | {^RjArL^}: what abrotman is trying to say is that pg 8.x on debian isn't officially supported... |
| 19:09.59 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: i asked you for a technical reason that you *require* pgsql8 instead of 7.x ... |
| 19:10.01 | LabThug | if you go that way, you're on your own google/problem solving skills |
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| 19:10.05 | {^RjArL^} | LabThug: I understand |
| 19:10.10 | abrotman | LabThug: it is .. but not with sarge |
| 19:10.14 | marcelk | abrotman, ok |
| 19:10.21 | abrotman | !info postgresql-server8.0 sid |
| 19:10.29 | {^RjArL^} | abrotman: just to continue with the same version of the application |
| 19:10.43 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: walk over... smack your developers |
| 19:10.51 | mac_ | stew: is possible? |
| 19:11.01 | abrotman | marcelk: i guess you can't remove that package ... |
| 19:11.47 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: you do what you want .. i'm just telling you that debian/sarge(aka stable) doesn't have pgsql8 .. nor is it supported |
| 19:11.48 | und0 | marcelk: if you don't want gamin/fam running, modify your gnome session |
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| 19:12.12 | marcelk | und0, how? |
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| 19:12.34 | {^RjArL^} | abrotman: ok, so if I have technical support I can have pgsql8 running good? |
| 19:12.48 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: technical support from who? |
| 19:12.54 | LabThug | {^RjArL^}: if they give you the option to use RH, you might want to look into what RH supports |
| 19:12.57 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: i wouldn't trust a developer :) |
| 19:12.58 | {^RjArL^} | from the datacenter |
| 19:13.18 | {^RjArL^} | the offer technical support an manteinance of whatever we demand |
| 19:13.18 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: i highly doubt they'd support you severely deviating from what they've installed |
| 19:13.19 | und0 | marcelk: launch the gnome-session-properties, modify and save on logout |
| 19:13.22 | gurubie | Sid Upgrade took out Synaptic. A required lib is not installable. Should I, a) wait or b) convert to "testing"? (I'm aware Sid is "unstable") Do you think it will get worse? Why might "testing" be better at this point in time (release.) |
| 19:13.47 | greycat | sid will probably get better as the ABI transition goes forward |
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| 19:14.08 | marcelk | und0, gamin is not started in a session, i've tried this |
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| 19:14.38 | {^RjArL^} | LabThug: well I supose that enterprise version of redhat will have a "stable package of pgsql8" |
| 19:15.16 | LabThug | {^RjArL^}: it might, as I've haven't tried RH since 7.x days, I don't know |
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| 19:15.40 | {^RjArL^} | LabThug: thanks |
| 19:15.49 | mac_ | how can i see the partitions that are mounted? |
| 19:15.50 | und0 | marcelk: are you sure? i've a /usr/bin/gamin in my gnome session... |
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| 19:16.03 | greycat | mac_: df |
| 19:16.04 | FieldySnuts | i'd never put a rh system up for a server though, onec you get in rpm hell, you are screwed. redhat is not enterprise grade. |
| 19:16.06 | und0 | mac_: mount |
| 19:16.22 | LabThug | abrotman: FMI, if I want "support" with PG 8.x what version of debian should I be running? |
| 19:16.38 | {^RjArL^} | abrotman: you say that the version of pgsql are unsuported at debian/sarge but it can runs without support from debian isn't it? |
| 19:16.40 | jpmcallister | HI! Shoud I use a SMP kernel with a hyperthreading processor? |
| 19:16.42 | greycat | LabThug: one that doesn't exist yet |
| 19:17.13 | mac_ | i have a fat partition that is mount with rw permition and a can write there! |
| 19:17.16 | greycat | !info postgresql sarge |
| 19:17.21 | dpkg | postgresql: (object-relational SQL database management system), section misc, is optional. Version: 7.4.7-6sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 3705 kB, Installed size: 9580 kB |
| 19:17.24 | LabThug | greycat, so then there really isn't a version of Debian which I'll get support from huh? |
| 19:17.28 | greycat | right |
| 19:17.33 | smcavoy | can someone tell me if I'm crazy: after install a second gcc pacakge should not be able to select which one is the default via update-alternatives --config cc ? It keeps telling me there is only one option when multiple compilers are installed (2.95,3.3,3.4) |
| 19:17.43 | mac_ | have defaults otpions! |
| 19:17.49 | und0 | jpmcallister: i think yes |
| 19:17.56 | LabThug | so then, why does it matter if I install it on Sarge? |
| 19:17.59 | mac_ | /dev/hdc7 /windows/fat vfat defaults 0 0 |
| 19:18.05 | mac_ | anyone can help me? |
| 19:18.05 | greycat | smcavoy: I'd just symlink it by hand then. |
| 19:18.17 | greycat | mac_: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 19:18.30 | smcavoy | greycat: so I'm not crazy in assuming it *should* work? |
| 19:18.39 | goron | How can I correctly "configure" the fontconfig library? |
| 19:18.40 | greycat | smcavoy: never tried it. |
| 19:18.42 | mac_ | greycat what do that command? |
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| 19:18.47 | greycat | !tell mac_ about /msg |
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| 19:19.07 | websdale | LabThug: Have you looked for a backport of psql 8 ? |
| 19:19.12 | mac_ | yes |
| 19:19.14 | stew | LabThug: if something goes wrong with your official debian packages we'll help you here, or you can file bugs with the maintainer on bugs.debian.org, if you install postgres8 packages on sarge and something goes wrong with them, you are on your own |
| 19:19.20 | goron | !fontconfig |
| 19:19.20 | dpkg | from memory, fontconfig is http://www.fontconfig.org |
| 19:19.38 | goron | I already knew that my dear bot... |
| 19:19.51 | LabThug | websdale, I didn't where would you suggest I'll find one? |
| 19:19.59 | LabThug | stew, I understand that |
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| 19:20.13 | greycat | LabThug: you can try apt-get.orhg |
| 19:20.15 | greycat | .org even |
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| 19:20.27 | LabThug | but nothings gone wrong yet and it's been running for over 3 months |
| 19:20.47 | websdale | LabThug: I haven't looked myself - backports.org might as well |
| 19:20.48 | greycat | I thought you were still looking for the packages. |
| 19:21.10 | mac_ | greycat defaults option dont't allow written permition? |
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| 19:21.13 | greycat | how can you still be looking for them if you've been running them 3 months? |
| 19:21.18 | greycat | mac_: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 19:21.20 | LabThug | me? no. I'm just trying to figure out how to supply autovac with a username and password |
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| 19:21.38 | abrotman | LabThug: i think maybe sid ... |
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| 19:21.47 | mac_ | ups anything is missing me! |
| 19:21.50 | LabThug | greycat, I'm curious because if that's the "offical" version to run, I'd rather do that so I can get "support" |
| 19:21.55 | abrotman | {^RjArL^}: yes .. it should run .. but you can't really come here to ask if it dies |
| 19:22.03 | greycat | LabThug: no, apt-get.org is all unofficial |
| 19:22.23 | LabThug | so then there is no "offical" pg-8.x backport? |
| 19:22.27 | abrotman | LabThug: etch also has pgsql 8 |
| 19:22.35 | abrotman | LabThug: not for sarge ... but for etch/sid there are |
| 19:22.56 | LabThug | is etch safe enough for production? |
| 19:22.56 | greycat | Crap. My debian box at home is still down. |
| 19:23.08 | greycat | Probably got powered off and never came back on. |
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| 19:23.15 | und0 | LabThug: IMHO, no |
| 19:23.21 | greycat | LabThug: depends on what you call 'safe'. |
| 19:23.34 | greycat | the default answer (without knowing your requirements) would be "no" |
| 19:23.35 | LabThug | 99.999% uptime |
| 19:23.43 | Karnaugh | as much as i hate to ask this, since i know some wise guy will have a stupid answer |
| 19:23.48 | greycat | uptime of debian or of that particular daemon? |
| 19:23.53 | Karnaugh | but with cdrecord, what device do i use for IDE? |
| 19:24.00 | Karnaugh | namely, the dev= parrameter |
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| 19:24.07 | LabThug | this is funny, if I go offical, it's not stable, but if I stay stable, it's not offical |
| 19:24.12 | greycat | Karnaugh: for a 2.6 kernel, cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus (as root) |
| 19:24.14 | abrotman | LabThug: it has no security updates |
| 19:24.30 | greycat | Karnaugh: for 2.4, you should use ide-scsi |
| 19:24.32 | greycat | !FAQ Karnaugh |
| 19:24.33 | dpkg | Karnaugh: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 19:24.34 | LabThug | abrotman: "it" being etch, right? |
| 19:24.37 | s_ward | LabThug: Do you _really_ need Postgres 8? |
| 19:24.39 | Karnaugh | greycat: thanks (usning 2.6) |
| 19:24.41 | abrotman | LabThug: right |
| 19:24.45 | LabThug | s_ward: already said yes |
| 19:24.50 | abrotman | !info postgresql-8.0 etch |
| 19:24.55 | dpkg | postgresql-8.0: (object-relational SQL database, version 8.0 server), section misc, is optional. Version: 8.0.3-7 (etch), Packaged size: 3904 kB, Installed size: 11772 kB |
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| 19:26.04 | abrotman | s_ward: he uses point in time |
| 19:26.35 | stew | LabThug: yes, latest and stable are mutually exclusive in debian (kinda by design) |
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| 19:27.06 | greycat | stable means it has no RC bugs which means it has been tested which means it's old enough that people have had TIME to test it |
| 19:27.15 | greycat | therefore stable can't be new |
| 19:27.17 | mac_ | i have a fat partition and a can't write there! i go to fstab and that partition is with defaults option! Should i change defaults to rw only? |
| 19:27.34 | greycat | mac_: read the fucking factoid. |
| 19:27.53 | abrotman | greycat: iirc. . sarge released with rc bugs |
| 19:28.08 | LabThug | abrotman: shhh, it did ;-) |
| 19:28.12 | abrotman | not many .. but a few |
| 19:28.25 | mac_ | greycat: i go to dpkg tab i don't answer to me! |
| 19:28.31 | mac_ | fuck! |
| 19:28.42 | mac_ | greycat: i go to dpkg tab he don't answer to me! |
| 19:28.54 | abrotman | hehe .. you don't answer to you eh? |
| 19:28.59 | greycat | 106 on the /ignore list now. |
| 19:29.08 | stew | !tell mac_ about vfatrw |
| 19:29.13 | abrotman | !beer greycat |
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| 19:29.33 | deadcat | tab completion for ifup sucks too. also ive notice that when i remove my usb wireless device, it doesnt clear /etc/network/run/ifstate so i have to use ifup --force eth1 now. )= |
| 19:29.49 | und0 | ~tell mac_ about vfatrw |
| 19:30.02 | mac_ | now i understand |
| 19:30.08 | mac_ | thanks to all |
| 19:30.11 | greycat | someone ctcp him and see if he's using mirc or bitchx |
| 19:30.16 | abrotman | somehow .. i doubt it |
| 19:30.24 | mac_ | sorry my english...i'm Portuguese! |
| 19:30.38 | abrotman | greycat: you will cry |
| 19:30.53 | abrotman | though .. admittedly .. i'm not sure he's running debian |
| 19:30.55 | streuner | -mac_- VERSION xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.10-5-386 [i686/3.19GHz] |
| 19:30.57 | abrotman | -mac_- VERSION xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.10-5-386 [i686/3.19GHz] |
| 19:31.10 | abrotman | streuner: you bastard! |
| 19:31.13 | psychonate | nice processor :( |
| 19:31.22 | greycat | what's that, a sid kernel? |
| 19:31.23 | abrotman | was that .. ever a debian kernel? |
| 19:31.23 | streuner | abrotman: :-) |
| 19:31.31 | abrotman | greycat: not that i'm aware .. |
| 19:31.42 | streuner | greycat: etch or sid, i would guess sid... |
| 19:31.55 | greycat | :) |
| 19:32.02 | abrotman | it's not currently in sid |
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| 19:32.09 | streuner | greycat: but some people use sid kernels in sarge... |
| 19:32.36 | stew | i don't think 2.6.10 was in debian for very long at all cuz it was fucked iirc |
| 19:32.45 | streuner | true |
| 19:32.46 | greycat | but people who use sid kernels in sarge are presumed to be smart enough to handle a fucking IRC bot. |
| 19:33.06 | stew | LabThug: abrotman is |
| 19:33.08 | abrotman | oh .. could it be an ubuntu kernel ? |
| 19:33.12 | abrotman | stew: i am not |
| 19:33.25 | stew | oh i figured you were, you were excited about it hitting unstable |
| 19:33.41 | abrotman | stew: afaict .. that kernel was never in debian .. or so snapshot.debian.net seems to imply |
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| 19:34.01 | abrotman | stew: excited because they are redoing the package architecture to allow multiple versions of pgsql to be installed at the same time |
| 19:34.03 | mac_ | what a hell how you saw may processor speed? |
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| 19:34.07 | LabThug | If I'm figuring this right, the only way for 8.x to be marked "stable" is when etch releases, right? |
| 19:34.16 | abrotman | mac_: w3 4r3 l337 |
| 19:34.23 | abrotman | LabThug: correct |
| 19:34.44 | LabThug | at the 1337 comment |
| 19:34.46 | greycat | LabThug: yes |
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| 19:35.01 | mac_ | abrotman: how? |
| 19:35.01 | FieldySnuts | !qotd137 |
| 19:35.07 | FieldySnuts | bleh someone do it for me |
| 19:35.24 | greycat | oh my. |
| 19:35.27 | greycat | !qotd137 |
| 19:35.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd137 is <www> when i apt-get upgrade, my system wants to update a lot of packages <www> how to avoid that ? |
| 19:35.43 | FieldySnuts | shit not even the one i thought it was, which one is the one from yesterday about the boss blowing something... |
| 19:35.44 | abrotman | greycat: guess what we made last night .. that is not 100% effective ... |
| 19:35.46 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 19:35.50 | abrotman | !qotd139 |
| 19:35.50 | dpkg | from memory, qotd139 is <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
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| 19:35.55 | FieldySnuts | yeah tha thahah |
| 19:35.55 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: that one? |
| 19:36.05 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 19:36.05 | dpkg | well, qotd113 is greycat|home | TummyAcid: TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB!!! Tab is your friend! Use the tab key! |
| 19:36.07 | abrotman | yay |
| 19:36.15 | mac_ | abrotman try now! |
| 19:36.17 | abrotman | greycat: we maxed out qotd0 |
| 19:36.20 | abrotman | mac_: try what? |
| 19:36.24 | greycat | heh |
| 19:36.34 | FieldySnuts | @hire abrotman |
| 19:36.39 | abrotman | qotd00 won't need changed until we hit 2## |
| 19:36.42 | greycat | 15:36 <-dpkg[N=dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg] qotd0 is <reply> see ... |
| 19:36.43 | greycat | woah. |
| 19:37.07 | greycat | !tell me about literal qotd0 |
| 19:37.07 | FieldySnuts | that's annoying when one thing on dpkg doesn't work the same on ravenbird or apt |
| 19:37.13 | mac_ | abrotman: how do you know my processor speed? |
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| 19:37.31 | greycat | and yes, that dpkg bug is still occurring. I can get an answer with !tell but not with /msg. |
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| 19:37.40 | stew | mac_: we were able to triangulate it by pinging you from several machines and timing the responses |
| 19:37.59 | BourneAgain1 | I appreciate the advice on iptables. Just got NAT up and running. What was I afraid of? :) |
| 19:38.00 | abrotman | -mac_- VERSION xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.10-5-386 [i686/3.19GHz] |
| 19:38.01 | abrotman | yay |
| 19:38.01 | covux | this must be the channel for 133t h@x0rs! |
| 19:38.20 | abrotman | !literal qotd00 |
| 19:38.20 | dpkg | qotd00 is <reply> see qotd((|1)(|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)) |
| 19:38.26 | greycat | like that. |
| 19:38.29 | FieldySnuts | or just removing som eof the dumber ones |
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| 19:38.39 | streuner | greycat: s(he) prolly use ubuntu |
| 19:38.41 | mac_ | stew: what your interest in doing that? i'm a perfectly newbie! |
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| 19:38.50 | OUTsider | grmblz |
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| 19:39.01 | Karnaugh | ok, so i try cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATA: |
| 19:39.04 | stew | mac_: we also figured out you are near Porto, Portugal |
| 19:39.07 | Karnaugh | and it spews a whole load of useless bullshit |
| 19:39.09 | OUTsider | does anyone know why svn won't even attempt do contact the defined proxy in .subversion/servers ? |
| 19:39.21 | Karnaugh | and zero error messages that mean anything |
| 19:39.27 | Karnaugh | asside from bitching that my hard drive is locked |
| 19:39.28 | greycat | but yes, I can see why you said it's not quite working |
| 19:39.29 | Karnaugh | big surprise there |
| 19:39.33 | mac_ | stew yes i'm from Porto portugal! |
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| 19:39.40 | FieldySnuts | probably because subversion blows |
| 19:39.50 | mac_ | i just go to whois command and you know! |
| 19:39.59 | OUTsider | FieldySnuts, compared to cvs, svn DOES support proxy |
| 19:40.04 | jaqkar_ | hi |
| 19:40.06 | Karnaugh | and the "UseCDBurner" FAQ isnt what i'd call usefull |
| 19:40.15 | Karnaugh | so is there any sort of usefull CD burning tool |
| 19:40.24 | jaqkar_ | anyone here that can help me with ppc install |
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| 19:40.32 | Karnaugh | that was programed, like sometime in the last 2 years and is actualy of any use to common man? |
| 19:40.42 | stew | Karnaugh: cdrecord |
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| 19:40.44 | jaqkar_ | i get a message quik failed to install into /target/ |
| 19:40.46 | greycat | Karnaugh: what's wrong with the UseCdBurner answer? |
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| 19:40.53 | Karnaugh | greycat: it doesnt have one? |
| 19:40.59 | Karnaugh | greycat: and who the fuck uses lilo |
| 19:40.59 | greycat | what the FUCK are you talking abuot? |
| 19:41.10 | greycat | needs grub expansion? ok. that can be achieved. |
| 19:41.19 | Karnaugh | devname: 'ATA' |
| 19:41.19 | Karnaugh | scsibus: -1 target: -1 lun: -1 |
| 19:41.19 | Karnaugh | Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. |
| 19:41.19 | OUTsider | Karnaugh, I do |
| 19:41.22 | greycat | it would be easier if my Debian box were back up though. |
| 19:41.25 | {^RjArL^} | abrotman: thanks bye |
| 19:41.28 | Karnaugh | what the hell does tha tmean? |
| 19:41.33 | {^RjArL^} | LabThug: thanks bye |
| 19:41.41 | mac_ | well i don't come here anymore! |
| 19:41.50 | greycat | Karnaugh: Joerg hates linux. I can't blame him. They broke IDE-SCSI and left it broken on purpose. |
| 19:41.55 | streuner | install debian and come back then |
| 19:41.59 | FieldySnuts | @irritate mac_ |
| 19:42.00 | ravenbird | mac_: HELP ME!!! who uses gnome ???/ |
| 19:42.04 | mac_ | i came here to make questions and this people is triangle me???????? |
| 19:42.05 | abrotman | greycat: i know why it doesn't work also .. but it was the best i could come up with |
| 19:42.10 | OUTsider | Karnaugh, and it works for me, always has, and I don't need any reason to switch to grub at the moment as well |
| 19:42.12 | FieldySnuts | damn lay off the ?'s |
| 19:42.22 | Karnaugh | OUTsider: thats nice, lilo sucks |
| 19:42.24 | OUTsider | Karnaugh, and there are probably a hell lot of other users who think the same about it |
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| 19:42.33 | mac_ | smart guys! |
| 19:42.38 | LabThug | mac_ you're a noob. All noobs get picked on, don't take it personally |
| 19:42.39 | FieldySnuts | sexist!! |
| 19:42.42 | OUTsider | Karnaugh, you wish it would, so you can use it to replace your rubberdoll with it |
| 19:42.44 | Karnaugh | I'm actualy relieved they put grub in Sarge |
| 19:43.00 | abrotman | greycat: have you a better solution ? |
| 19:43.05 | BourneAgain1 | greycat: Why would they leave it broken? |
| 19:43.16 | Karnaugh | greycat: well I'm using Kerlen 2.6 |
| 19:43.18 | psychonate | I did like the animated boot screens for lilo lol |
| 19:43.18 | Karnaugh | bleh |
| 19:43.19 | deadcat | why is the module aes now called aes_i586? |
| 19:43.23 | Karnaugh | Kernel |
| 19:43.27 | psychonate | I wish grub had some heh |
| 19:43.29 | mac_ | LabThug: ok |
| 19:43.42 | OUTsider | deadcat, pentium optimized code |
| 19:43.43 | mac_ | i just don't think that is right! |
| 19:43.50 | mac_ | nut ok! |
| 19:43.57 | FieldySnuts | what the hell are you going on about |
| 19:43.58 | mac_ | but ok! |
| 19:44.07 | SerajewelKS | i hope this question isn't too complicated... but is there some sound mixing gadget (e.g. sound servers, kernel modules, etc) that will allow multiple programs to play/record audio at the same time, using /dev/dsp, ALSA, or both? |
| 19:44.07 | deadcat | OUTsider: interesting. so it will do bad on other arch now? using aes |
| 19:44.12 | LabThug | mac_ it's not, but when you get to the point where you can turn the tables, you'll realize how much fun it is ;-) |
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| 19:44.21 | cy_ | hello |
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| 19:44.34 | cy_ | "testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CF455A0A8AC2C0A6" -> apt-get update # doesnt fix it.. any hints ? |
| 19:44.44 | mac_ | LabThug: i agree with you! |
| 19:44.44 | BourneAgain1 | SerajewlKS: Yes tthere are. Have fun. :) |
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| 19:44.56 | TK-1 | anyone know much bout torrenttrackers |
| 19:44.59 | mac_ | LabThug: I have a lot to learn! |
| 19:45.06 | OUTsider | deadcat, no idea, that just how I interpret the new name of the module |
| 19:45.12 | mac_ | LabThug: However i put now my firewall working |
| 19:45.21 | OUTsider | FieldySnuts, so besides that you consider svn sucky, got a solution ? |
| 19:45.24 | mac_ | LabThug: Can you pass by it? |
| 19:45.29 | SerajewelKS | addendum to my question: if you say "yes" and don't tell me the answer, i will hurt you |
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| 19:45.38 | OUTsider | FieldySnuts, coz I am kinda required to use a proxy, and I know cvs doesn't |
| 19:45.54 | LabThug | mac_ if you configured it correctly, no one should be able to pass by your firewall |
| 19:46.02 | OUTsider | FieldySnuts, furthermore, the projects dev release is only available through svn |
| 19:46.03 | buu | SerajewelKS: I was asking about this the other day, the consensus seems to be 'dmix' |
| 19:46.04 | BourneAgain1 | I really do appreciate this channel. Without you I would have taken much longer to get Debian up and running and might have actually had to read the manual :) |
| 19:46.06 | buu | dpkg: dmix |
| 19:46.06 | dpkg | it has been said that dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 19:46.29 | mac_ | LabThug: Ask them to try! |
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| 19:46.40 | SerajewelKS | buu, thanks, this will work with ALSA, and ALSA OSS emulation, without the client software needing to explicitly support it? |
| 19:46.52 | buu | SerajewelKS: Maybe? |
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| 19:47.16 | SerajewelKS | buu, is that an "it depends" maybe, or an "i don't know" maybe? |
| 19:47.19 | buu | SerajewelKS: I think just the default thing only works with alsa, but there's a way to make /dev/dsp work with it, which most things use. Or something. |
| 19:47.24 | buu | SerajewelKS: That was a "I have no idea" |
| 19:47.24 | FieldySnuts | OUTsider: i could care less |
| 19:47.42 | mac_ | abrotman: try now |
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| 19:47.47 | OUTsider | as in, go s*ck it up and live with the fact that svn on debian is broken ? |
| 19:47.56 | OUTsider | fine |
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| 19:48.00 | abrotman | mac_: give up already :) |
| 19:48.03 | abrotman | -mac_- VERSION xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.10-5-386 [i686/3.19GHz] |
| 19:48.04 | SerajewelKS | buu, if this works, i'll give you a big hug! unless you're a guy, and then i'll give you a handshake. |
| 19:48.06 | greycat | FieldySnuts: ITYM "couldn't care less" |
| 19:48.11 | FieldySnuts | ITYM? |
| 19:48.13 | greycat | !ITYM |
| 19:48.13 | dpkg | i heard itym is I Think You Mean |
| 19:48.15 | buu | SerajewelKS: =[ |
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| 19:48.19 | FieldySnuts | something like that |
| 19:48.28 | buu | SerajewelKS: How sexually repressed! |
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| 19:48.43 | mac_ | abrotman: just that? ahahahahahaah |
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| 19:48.45 | BourneAgain1 | SerajewelKS: Demudi |
| 19:48.46 | SerajewelKS | buu, unless you're comfortable in your manhood, then i'll hug you |
| 19:48.54 | FieldySnuts | uh? |
| 19:49.08 | buu | SerajewelKS: Oh good, you had me worried. |
| 19:49.19 | SerajewelKS | wtf? i don't have alsa-oss installed?! how did i survive this long... |
| 19:49.43 | FieldySnuts | @gay |
| 19:49.44 | ravenbird | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive to some, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 19:49.45 | buu | Dumb luck? |
| 19:49.50 | FieldySnuts | delayed but it still applies |
| 19:49.56 | buu | FieldySnuts: That was a really gay response. |
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| 19:50.10 | FieldySnuts | happy? |
| 19:50.22 | buu | FieldySnuts: Yes! |
| 19:50.32 | SerajewelKS | FieldySnuts, it also totally didn't apply... |
| 19:50.50 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 19:50.50 | mac_ | abrotman:i'm waiting! |
| 19:50.55 | FieldySnuts | mac_: leave him alone |
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| 19:51.09 | BourneAgain1 | The Linux Penguin is definitely gay, just look at the smile. |
| 19:51.16 | FieldySnuts | umm |
| 19:51.21 | c01100011 | i am having trouble setting up mysql in debian, i installed mysql-client , mysql-server and admin when i try to connect in admin i recieve "can't connect to localmysql server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock(2), i ping localhost fine, |
| 19:51.32 | SerajewelKS | BourneAgain1, what's wrong with a happy penguin... |
| 19:51.43 | mac_ | FieldySnuts: i mess with me and now what you want? |
| 19:51.46 | SerajewelKS | c01100011, /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 19:51.49 | mac_ | FieldySnuts: he mess with me and now what you want? |
| 19:52.15 | FieldySnuts | mac_: I can't even understand what your dumb annoying ass is saying. |
| 19:52.26 | s_ward | Happy penguins are gay? Don't tell them that, you might bring on the angry penguin.. |
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| 19:52.49 | c01100011 | SerajewelKS - same thing, asks me to check if /var/run/mysqld/mysqld..sockk exists. -- it doesn''t how do i go about fixing that ? |
| 19:52.51 | stew | mac_: uhh, the trangulate comment was a joke. he's just using /ctcp version ; google it |
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| 19:52.57 | mac_ | FieldySnuts: But your ass undersatnd me when i fuck him! |
| 19:53.05 | mac_ | FieldySnuts: But your ass understand me when i fuck him! |
| 19:53.09 | stew | mac_: chill out |
| 19:53.21 | mac_ | stew you are a nice guy |
| 19:53.28 | rking | weird stuff. |
| 19:53.36 | mac_ | but some of them a don't like! |
| 19:53.43 | SerajewelKS | c01100011, not sure.. you could try rebooting (i know you're not SUPPOSED to have to, but sometimes it fixes weird things) |
| 19:53.44 | streuner | greycat: this guy remember me - same person - from .pt too :-) |
| 19:53.47 | Ronin | mac_: then ignore them |
| 19:54.05 | mac_ | Ronin: you are right! |
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| 19:54.25 | streuner | idefix! |
| 19:54.43 | abrotman | wtf is his problem? |
| 19:54.50 | c01100011 | SerajewelKS - yeah, it does, and i was shuffeling files around and accidently had the partition full or a few for a while and some other things got odd , thanks |
| 19:54.51 | mac_ | stew and Ronin nice to meet you guys! |
| 19:55.10 | cddesjar | if i want to use make-jpkg to install java, should i grab the bin file or the rpm.bin file? |
| 19:55.20 | stew | cddesjar: not the rpm |
| 19:55.25 | mac_ | The spirit of Linux is not fuck their friends! |
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| 19:55.36 | covux | cddesjar: bin |
| 19:55.40 | spowers | where the heck is partimage in sarge? |
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| 19:55.44 | abrotman | today .. i made cheese out of ham |
| 19:55.50 | cy_ | none got a clue about this : |
| 19:55.52 | abrotman | !find partimage sarge |
| 19:55.52 | cy_ | "testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CF455A0A8AC2C0A6" -> apt-get update # doesnt fix it.. any hints ? |
| 19:55.52 | streuner | spowers: backup tool |
| 19:55.53 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'partimage' (2): mindi-partimagehack ;; partimage-doc. |
| 19:55.54 | cy_ | :/ |
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| 19:55.56 | adaran | is there any tool for executing a program every 1 minute? |
| 19:56.02 | adaran | i think cron can only do hourly? |
| 19:56.08 | abrotman | !tell cy_ about apt-secure |
| 19:56.08 | greycat | There. I greatly expanded the UseCdBurner page. Happy now? |
| 19:56.21 | abrotman | !tell cy_ about apt secure |
| 19:56.21 | streuner | spowers: its in sarge |
| 19:56.23 | LaidBack_01 | hey, has anyone in here used Xmail - how is it compared with qmail or postfix? |
| 19:56.33 | streuner | dpkg, info partimage sarge |
| 19:56.42 | cddesjar | if have already install java as the .bin file in the past is there a way to remove it? |
| 19:56.44 | SerajewelKS | buu++ |
| 19:56.44 | spowers | streuner: specifically, i'm looking for partimage-server |
| 19:56.48 | BourneAgain1 | echo 1 > /proc/sys/penguin_gay |
| 19:56.58 | buu | haha |
| 19:57.05 | buu | Yay irssi scripts. |
| 19:57.08 | spowers | but it's only in oldstable and unstable :/ |
| 19:57.09 | SerajewelKS | i've been VIOLATED! |
| 19:57.16 | buu | SerajewelKS: Only in your mind. |
| 19:57.29 | SerajewelKS | buu, yeah but that's where it matters, ultimately |
| 19:57.39 | rking | SerajewelKS: you violated buu by hugging. |
| 19:57.51 | buu | SerajewelKS: Well, you don't actually exist, so it doesn't really matter. |
| 19:57.53 | SerajewelKS | rking, if you scroll up you'll see that he wanted one |
| 19:57.59 | abrotman | !tell BourneAgain1 about gay |
| 19:58.02 | oviwan | adaran: 1-59/1 -> min-max/frecuency |
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| 19:58.13 | SerajewelKS | buu, good point |
| 19:58.15 | streuner | spowers: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 19:58.16 | buu | SerajewelKS: Thanks! |
| 19:58.23 | greycat | SerajewelKS: how does buu's (probably faked) orgasm violate you? |
| 19:58.31 | buu | greycat: You take that back. |
| 19:58.41 | greycat | SerajewelKS: how does buu's (not faked) orgasm violate you? |
| 19:58.43 | EfaistOs | why there is no print menu in GIMP ? |
| 19:58.56 | SerajewelKS | greycat, there's a white stain on my shirt |
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| 19:59.10 | spowers | eh |
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| 19:59.18 | buu | SerajewelKS: It was internal! |
| 19:59.18 | mops | where to put aterm resource file please? |
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| 19:59.22 | spowers | streuner: thanks. found it on apt-get.org |
| 19:59.29 | streuner | spowers: hm |
| 19:59.32 | SerajewelKS | buu, it doesn't look internal from here... |
| 19:59.41 | znx | smores? |
| 19:59.41 | buu | SerajewelKS: Optical Illusion |
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| 20:00.18 | xcore | alguem aqui sabe me dizer o usuario padrao do cups qdo instalado? eu nao to conseguindo arrumar esse bixo |
| 20:00.27 | greycat | !br |
| 20:00.28 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:00.47 | SerajewelKS | buu, in the crotchal area? |
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| 20:01.02 | buu | SerajewelKS: Look, it's not my fault you're projecting you're insecurities on to me! |
| 20:01.10 | SerajewelKS | buu, lol |
| 20:01.21 | buu | 'your' =/ |
| 20:01.26 | SerajewelKS | buu, i don't usually feel insecure... it's just when guys orgasm when i hug them, it bugs me |
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| 20:01.38 | buu | SerajewelKS: Obviously you should learn to accept your sexuality. |
| 20:01.39 | greycat | 'twould explain why they ask for your hugs. |
| 20:01.45 | scyrma | workrave is uninstalable in sid now... is there anything I could do to get it anyway? |
| 20:02.11 | adaran | oviwan, thx |
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| 20:03.48 | SerajewelKS | buu, this doesn't seem to work for SDL's audio system |
| 20:04.00 | buu | SerajewelKS: I've got a large wrench that say it does. |
| 20:04.03 | concept10 | what is the command to restart network |
| 20:04.04 | buu | says |
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| 20:04.11 | greycat | concept10: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
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| 20:04.22 | SerajewelKS | buu, er, no... for some reason it's not working on /dev/dsp |
| 20:04.23 | greycat | or reboot, for a much better test |
| 20:04.26 | SerajewelKS | only ALSA devices |
| 20:04.32 | tvn | what's wrong with this line of script ? it seems to be a syntax err but I can't tell , for ((i=0;i<10;i+=1)); do something ; done |
| 20:04.33 | SerajewelKS | and aoss doesn't work with SDL |
| 20:04.44 | greycat | tvn: that should work in bash |
| 20:04.45 | SerajewelKS | tvn, sh != c |
| 20:04.48 | concept10 | greycat, im doing this over ssh, i dont want to lose the connection |
| 20:04.56 | greycat | may not work in csh, ksh, /bin/csh |
| 20:05.00 | greycat | err /bin/sh I meant. |
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| 20:05.12 | buu | SerajewelKS: I think you need to set up /dev/dsp differently |
| 20:05.19 | greycat | concept10: you can't restart a network on a machine that you access over that very same network without losing your connection. |
| 20:05.24 | abrotman | BourneAgain1: you should also not msg people without permission |
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| 20:05.36 | buu | abrotman: Does it steal your soul? |
| 20:05.36 | BourneAgain1 | abrotman: Sorry sir. |
| 20:05.38 | greycat | concept10: if you connect on a different interface than the one you're cycling, then you MIGHT be able to do something... |
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| 20:05.55 | abrotman | buu: makes my ears bleed |
| 20:06.02 | buu | abrotman: Sucks to be you. |
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| 20:06.09 | abrotman | buu: you have no idea |
| 20:06.13 | greycat | !wb tarzeau |
| 20:06.13 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! tarzeau has returned! |
| 20:06.14 | SerajewelKS | buu, maybe ALSA OSS emulation isn't turned on? i just installed alsa-oss, maybe i need to modprobe something? |
| 20:06.16 | buu | Can I write an article? |
| 20:06.16 | TK-1 | anyone know what happend to the yabtuc project? |
| 20:06.20 | tvn | greycat: I exec that in bash (2.03) and it says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `((' |
| 20:06.20 | cddesjar | how do i delete a directory at the command prompt? i know that it's rmdir, but it keeps telling me that the directories contain files |
| 20:06.23 | tarzeau | why wasn't i there, anymore? |
| 20:06.23 | BourneAgain1 | abrotman: I do appreciate this channels help. Thank you. |
| 20:06.26 | greycat | buu: you mean like "the" or "an"? yes. |
| 20:06.29 | buu | SerajewelKS: You're way beyond my knowledge at this point. |
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| 20:06.31 | concept10 | greycat, im getting this error: Cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) |
| 20:06.31 | tarzeau | hello greycat |
| 20:06.32 | greycat | that's probably within your capabiliies |
| 20:06.33 | cddesjar | and it won't let me delete htem |
| 20:06.43 | stew | SerajewelKS: snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss |
| 20:06.44 | buu | greycat: No, but thanks for the permission. |
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| 20:06.49 | abrotman | BourneAgain1: not a problem .. we just try to refrain from using that word and msg'ing people w/o permission |
| 20:06.52 | covux | SerajewelKS: sdl works with dmix. i can use e.g. ut2004 and xms simultanously but i have to link openal lib which comes with debian to the lib which comes with ut |
| 20:06.59 | greycat | you didn't ask for permissions. you asked whether you "can" |
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| 20:07.15 | greycat | tvn: it was added later than bash 2.03 I believe |
| 20:07.21 | BourneAgain1 | abrotman: Noted. |
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| 20:07.25 | SerajewelKS | covux, okay, that doesn't help a lot here... what you're saying is that "aoss" won't do the job |
| 20:07.28 | greycat | tvn: since woody has bash 2.05(a) it's not really #debian related... |
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| 20:07.49 | CountZ | anyone knows the BTS page that talks about a fix to this glibc issue I have with the new GNU_STACK marking? |
| 20:07.49 | greycat | tvn: when in doubt, rewrite it as a while loop |
| 20:08.04 | covux | SerajewelKS: which sdl app do you use to test it? |
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| 20:08.22 | SerajewelKS | covux, bzflag |
| 20:08.33 | greycat | CountZ: what makes you think we know? |
| 20:08.40 | SerajewelKS | covux, and XMMS, which is currently using ALSA via Crossfade |
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| 20:08.47 | CountZ | greycat: How is it possible nobody else has this problem? |
| 20:08.47 | SerajewelKS | at least i think it's using ALSA |
| 20:08.56 | CountZ | greycat: My friend just did a standard apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:09.12 | concept10 | I modified sources.list and changed it back to the the original and ran apt-get update. I am getting this error: Cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) Any suggestions |
| 20:09.14 | greycat | CountZ: if you don't see it in the BTS, file a bug report |
| 20:09.17 | tarzeau | topic sounds like MEET GNAA |
| 20:09.21 | tarzeau | greycat: how are you? |
| 20:09.23 | SerajewelKS | covux, i did the "slave.pcm "dmix"" thing, i'm guessing that doesn't really work |
| 20:09.25 | CountZ | greycat: Now this box of his can not run sshd |
| 20:09.28 | covux | SerajewelKS: i also had to create a .openalrc in home. i will past it in #flood |
| 20:09.36 | CountZ | greycat: I'm sure someone already encountered this |
| 20:09.43 | greycat | tarzeau: same as usual. idiots cuss at me and call me a dick... you know. just like #debian on any other day. |
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| 20:09.46 | CountZ | I personally use stable on my boxes so I have not encountered this |
| 20:09.48 | CountZ | but he's on unstable |
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| 20:09.53 | tarzeau | greycat: ah the usual |
| 20:09.54 | CountZ | (god knows why) |
| 20:10.08 | SerajewelKS | covux, no pastebin? |
| 20:10.51 | tarzeau | greycat: it's great how you can stay so calm and answer objectively and helpfully so most of the times |
| 20:10.57 | covux | SerajewelKS: ok. would be better..(never used it) |
| 20:10.58 | tarzeau | greyt , even ;) |
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| 20:11.10 | SerajewelKS | covux, is that tilde in the file too? |
| 20:11.24 | concept10 | crap, HELP ME! |
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| 20:11.28 | s_ward | !help |
| 20:11.37 | s_ward | bah |
| 20:11.39 | covux | SerajewelKS: nope. |
| 20:11.40 | SerajewelKS | oh, covux maybe we should focus on the "other" problem first |
| 20:12.00 | concept10 | s_ward, looks like you need the help |
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| 20:12.13 | s_ward | Yeah, I have to have padded walls too |
| 20:12.15 | SerajewelKS | according to "http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin" i should be able to run two mpg123 instances without aoss, using the config it supplies, but this does not work |
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| 20:12.23 | PandaKun | yo |
| 20:12.24 | SerajewelKS | if i wrap the execution in aoss it does |
| 20:12.29 | PandaKun | if i compile a program in 32bit |
| 20:12.32 | PandaKun | do i gotta run mysql in 32bit? |
| 20:12.38 | covux | SerajewelKS: k. |
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| 20:13.09 | deadcat | PandaKun: that sounds about right |
| 20:13.11 | SerajewelKS | covux, according to lspci i have "0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)" |
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| 20:13.31 | PandaKun | alright. thanks deadcat |
| 20:13.50 | covux | SerajewelKS: btw. did you create a .asoundrc file? (maybe dumb question ;-) ) |
| 20:13.57 | SerajewelKS | covux, yes =) |
| 20:14.05 | SerajewelKS | covux, actually it looks like i have to wrap it in aoss |
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| 20:14.35 | covux | SerajewelKS: what do you want to wrap? |
| 20:14.37 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: you do have to wrap mpg123 with aoss to get it to dmix |
| 20:14.42 | SerajewelKS | maybe a dumb question, but why wouldn't it be easy to write an ALSA OSS emulation driver that would use the ALSA preferences |
| 20:14.53 | SerajewelKS | covux, lots of things... |
| 20:14.55 | SerajewelKS | skype... |
| 20:14.57 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: mpg321 can output to alsa directly |
| 20:15.07 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, i'm using mpg123 to test... |
| 20:15.16 | SerajewelKS | for programs that use /dev/dsp directly |
| 20:15.28 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: You cant dmix oss programs without using aoss |
| 20:15.48 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: the mixing is done by the library, not the kernel driver |
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| 20:15.56 | covux | SerajewelKS: k. i only use flash, xmms and sdl-games with dmix so there my setup works.. |
| 20:16.14 | s_ward | concept10: Have you tried the usual when you can't connect somewhere? dig it, ping it, etc. See if you can connect elsewhere. Check your network interfaces, routing tables.. |
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| 20:16.27 | SerajewelKS | i know the whole skype linux community is up in arms about the fact that skype has ignored requests to implement ALSA |
| 20:16.28 | s_ward | concept10: I can confirm that I can connect to security.debian.org |
| 20:16.33 | SerajewelKS | so maybe something will happen soon |
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| 20:16.44 | PandaKun | yo deadcat |
| 20:16.47 | PandaKun | when i run mysql in chroot |
| 20:16.51 | curby | this is definitely a dumbquestion, but cron seems to be ignoring my cron.d directory. when i place the config line from (for example) /etc/cron.d/awstats into /etc/crontab it works fine. manpages tell me stuff in cron.d should just work but I guess i'm doing something dumb... |
| 20:16.56 | PandaKun | how do i foward anything trying to connect to mysql |
| 20:16.59 | PandaKun | to my chroot one? |
| 20:17.02 | RvGaTe | !smokeping |
| 20:17.11 | PandaKun | cus my website |
| 20:17.16 | PandaKun | says "error cannot connect to blah blah" |
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| 20:17.29 | curby | permissions on everything in /etc/cron.d seem to be fine so i'm pretty bewildered |
| 20:17.34 | greycat | PandaKun: how does it connect? TCP? unix domain socket? |
| 20:17.38 | concept10 | greycat, s_ward: I ran ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 and I didnt lose my ssh connection and it works now. |
| 20:17.40 | RvGaTe | !factinfo smokeping |
| 20:17.41 | dpkg | RvGaTe: there's no such factoid as smokeping |
| 20:17.43 | TheAsp | curby:do your logs say anything odd? |
| 20:17.51 | greycat | concept10: was the ssh connection *on* eth0? |
| 20:18.01 | concept10 | greycat, yes |
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| 20:18.14 | covux | SerajewelKS: aoss wrapper is very bitchy with buffer-settings in asoundrc. it took long until i get the right settings :-/ |
| 20:18.21 | curby | TheAsp: my installation is a pretty much unchanged stable instalaltion on powerpc btw. i don't think i've seen anything weird in the logs |
| 20:18.34 | magyar | ahoy, i am trying to enable "splashimage" in frub for sarge but it wont work. I followed all the manuals. CAn someone help a brother? |
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| 20:18.39 | FarrisG | I want to take the output of "du -s /path/to/somewhere/*" at various intervals and plot it on a graph. Is there anything out there what will do something similar? |
| 20:18.41 | magyar | grub |
| 20:19.10 | b2IRC-out | hey!!, i need help whit knoppix and iptables!!, what is the knoopix channel? (in spanish) |
| 20:19.30 | curby | in fact /var/log/messages is rather empty. in the redhat/mandrake world /var/log/messages gets blasted with stuff =) |
| 20:19.39 | TheAsp | curby: /var/log/daemon |
| 20:19.44 | concept10 | b2IRC-out, #knoppix-on-the-border |
| 20:19.51 | SerajewelKS | covux, you'll excuse me saying this, but this is why i like windows' sound system.. one interface, and everything works |
| 20:19.51 | b2IRC-out | thanks |
| 20:19.51 | IceZone | been awhile since i used deb ... command line installation program is ? |
| 20:20.01 | b2IRC-out | =S |
| 20:20.07 | TheAsp | Ice_e: apt-get? dpkg? |
| 20:20.10 | TheAsp | err |
| 20:20.12 | b2IRC-out | is empty concept10 |
| 20:20.12 | LabThug | b2IRC-out: I'd start with #knoppix |
| 20:20.14 | concept10 | b2IRC-out, just kidding. |
| 20:20.15 | TheAsp | stupid tab key |
| 20:20.28 | IceZone | dpkg was what i was thinking thanks |
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| 20:20.38 | magyar | does anyone have "splashimage" working in grub? |
| 20:20.41 | SerajewelKS | covux, IMO, until linux has a stable, widely used sound system (ALSA is getting there, no doubt) and user-space hardware control, windows people will be scared |
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| 20:20.51 | curby | TheAsp: /var/log/daemon was last written to on aug 7th... that's also weird |
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| 20:20.58 | doleyb | SerajewelKS: alsa is not getting there, it still blocks by default. |
| 20:21.06 | curby | TheAsp: actually, /var/log/daemon.log |
| 20:21.18 | LabThug | SerajewelKS: IMO, a lot more than sound is keeping windows people scared |
| 20:21.26 | TheAsp | curby: *nod*, odd. |
| 20:21.32 | SerajewelKS | doleyb, adding a single file to the debian distribution would fix that... |
| 20:21.44 | covux | SerajewelKS: yep. good point. it would be cool if dmix is just a layer you do not have to care about and just work :-) |
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| 20:21.54 | curby | and debian was being so nice to me. i though it really would just install and work. i guess i need to tweak stuff =| |
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| 20:22.41 | curby | ps shows taht syslog and cron are both running, so that shouldn't be a problem... |
| 20:22.45 | goron | curby: Debian is evil, don't believe anything else. |
| 20:22.46 | cddesjar | hmm...should i have a java directory at /usr/local/javablahblahblah |
| 20:22.49 | cddesjar | cause i don't |
| 20:22.58 | SerajewelKS | LabThug, i didn't say windows people would flock to linux, but that's two things that windows people like: sound and having a thumb drive Just Work when it's plugged in |
| 20:22.59 | cddesjar | i used make-jpkg |
| 20:23.02 | CountZ | to try a kernel once, with lilo, is it -r or -R? (can't run MAN) |
| 20:23.06 | cddesjar | then dpkg -i java.deb |
| 20:23.30 | LabThug | SerajewelKS: I'm just contending that there is more than those two things keeping people on windows |
| 20:23.39 | SerajewelKS | LabThug, i agree |
| 20:23.42 | goron | CountZ: All manpages are on the Internet. |
| 20:23.49 | curby | is it expected that users need to tweak syslog.conf to get things to actually log? not much at all seems to be logging |
| 20:23.53 | CountZ | goron: so you don't know the answer, thanks |
| 20:24.03 | LabThug | all you manpages are belong...aww screwit |
| 20:24.04 | covux | SerajewelKS: but there are also some soundcards which support hardwaremixing and then its easy like in win |
| 20:24.07 | goron | CountZ: No, I don't have the page either. |
| 20:24.12 | TheAsp | curby: no. |
| 20:24.20 | goron | CountZ: If you don't have a webbrowser, install links. |
| 20:24.37 | SerajewelKS | covux, right. i wish ALSA would "make like windows" (though i hate saying that, it's true) and automagically decide where to mix sound |
| 20:24.39 | CountZ | ok it's -R losers, I always answer such quick questions for others. |
| 20:24.40 | goron | CountZ: There's no need for anyone to look it up for you. |
| 20:24.50 | CountZ | goron: stick it |
| 20:24.52 | magyar | does anyone have "splashimage" working in grub? |
| 20:25.00 | goron | CountZ: Never seen you here before. |
| 20:25.03 | SerajewelKS | covux, and if i knew one damn thing about audio drivers i would try to make a patch |
| 20:25.08 | concept10 | what directory should I install wordpress in ? |
| 20:25.12 | CountZ | goron: I'm here as Skaag usually |
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| 20:25.18 | CountZ | magyar: yes, it works for me, but look it up on the internet |
| 20:25.23 | goron | CountZ: A simple "thank you" is enough. |
| 20:25.29 | CountZ | magyar: I'm not in the mood to help anyone right now, thanks for flying #Debian |
| 20:25.47 | CountZ | goron: thank you for what, sending me to man pages when you know the answer by heart? |
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| 20:25.53 | CountZ | never mind, this is stupid.. |
| 20:25.56 | CountZ | forget I said anything. |
| 20:25.59 | goron | CountZ: I don't know the answer. |
| 20:25.59 | greycat | CountZ: you may stop being an asshole now. |
| 20:26.01 | CountZ | thank you. |
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| 20:26.05 | SerajewelKS | covux, and that file you pasted me didn't get bzflag to work |
| 20:26.11 | CountZ | greycat: I stopped. Thanks. |
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| 20:26.27 | b2IRC-out | somebody!!! it is possible to share 2 conecciones to Internet?????! |
| 20:26.31 | concept10 | goron, if you dont know the answer dont be a moron |
| 20:26.39 | magyar | greycat: :) |
| 20:26.47 | b2IRC-out | with debian |
| 20:26.49 | goron | concept10: I knew a simple procedure to get the answer. |
| 20:26.56 | covux | SerajewelKS: did bzflag use the debian openal lib? |
| 20:26.56 | goron | concept10: Don't do interesting. |
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| 20:27.14 | SerajewelKS | covux, no idea... i'm using a self-compiled bzflag |
| 20:27.35 | CountZ | goron: it's quite "chewed" to tell people to look things up in google, and google is your friend, and man pages are online, and stfu, and rtfm, and omglol |
| 20:27.35 | curby | so no one's ever hada debian installation where files in /etc/cron.d would just be ignored? |
| 20:27.52 | goron | CountZ: There are problems that are non-trivial. |
| 20:27.53 | CountZ | curby: yes I have, reinstall crond |
| 20:28.03 | goron | CountZ: Those should be asked here on on the mailinglists. |
| 20:28.07 | CountZ | goron: if you don't know the answer, stfu, is all. |
| 20:28.14 | orchid | SerajewelKS: why wont it compile? |
| 20:28.16 | magyar | CountZ: i looked it up on the net, but debian is using "update-grub" and it keeps displaying "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..." but its there |
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| 20:28.22 | SerajewelKS | orchid, it compiles |
| 20:28.22 | goron | CountZ: Most questions have as an answer: RTFM. |
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| 20:28.28 | CountZ | goron: when I know the answer to something, I answer, if I don't, I don't ask people to view man pages on the web, now please leave me alone, thank you. |
| 20:28.30 | covux | SerajewelKS: i use e.g. planeshift or ut2004 with dmix by renaming their openals and symlinkig the debian openal to the install folders of the games |
| 20:28.30 | goron | CountZ: Yours too. |
| 20:28.31 | SerajewelKS | covux, bzflag uses SDL for its audio |
| 20:28.32 | g3zhengy | ipw2200 some times can't discover the wireless device |
| 20:28.40 | g3zhengy | where the driver says hardware not present |
| 20:28.41 | CountZ | goron: RTFM about channel ethics and general niceness. |
| 20:28.52 | goron | CountZ: lol |
| 20:28.54 | CountZ | or being a human being. |
| 20:29.00 | stew | both of you read about /help ignore |
| 20:29.11 | CountZ | stew: exactly |
| 20:29.23 | CountZ | man... |
| 20:29.25 | SerajewelKS | stew, i dunno, this is kinda entertaining |
| 20:29.29 | magyar | hey stew: can you help a brother with grub and splashimage? |
| 20:29.36 | covux | SerajewelKS: maybe bzflag openal is staticly compiled only with oss support (maybe i just write crap cause i dont have a clue ;-) ) |
| 20:29.54 | stew | magyar: probably not other than to point you to splashy as being the reportedly easy way to go |
| 20:30.04 | SerajewelKS | covux, AFAIK, SDL does its audio independently |
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| 20:30.17 | TheAsp | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.20 | SerajewelKS | covux, but i might be able to change the driver name that bzflag statically compiles in |
| 20:30.24 | magyar | stew: splashy? |
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| 20:30.31 | SerajewelKS | covux, or i could try what TheAsp suggests =) |
| 20:30.31 | orchid | SerajewelKS: bzflag will use whatever driver you have installed, alsa, oss etc |
| 20:30.39 | stew | !info splashy |
| 20:30.41 | covux | SerajewelKS: afaik sdl uses alsa or oss |
| 20:30.48 | SerajewelKS | orchid, well, how come it's using DSP when i have ALSA |
| 20:30.48 | stew | !splashy |
| 20:30.48 | dpkg | [splashy] a basic userspace bootsplash package which is currently in experimental but works in sarge alright. |
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| 20:30.54 | covux | SerajewelKS: *g* |
| 20:31.04 | SerajewelKS | it seems backwards that SDL would pick OSS as the first choice |
| 20:31.10 | SerajewelKS | and fall back on ALSA |
| 20:31.11 | stew | didn't know it was experimental only, hmm |
| 20:31.25 | CountZ | SerajewelKS: I'm glad you are entertained... want me to tell a joke as well? :-) |
| 20:31.25 | CountZ | SerajewelKS: I have a good one about airplanes |
| 20:31.25 | CountZ | :-) |
| 20:31.44 | SerajewelKS | CountZ, okay |
| 20:31.48 | greycat | dpkg, splashy =~ s/alright/all right/ |
| 20:31.49 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 20:31.54 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: throw this in /etc/libao.conf too: default_driver=alsa |
| 20:32.18 | covux | SerajewelKS: you can control this with the .openalrc file... afail |
| 20:32.25 | orchid | SerajewelKS: #bzflag can likely help you |
| 20:32.25 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, thanks.. jeez, you wonder why this stuff isn't the default |
| 20:32.26 | covux | k* |
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| 20:32.32 | SerajewelKS | covux, it didn't really work |
| 20:32.38 | SerajewelKS | orchid, AFAIK this is an SDL thing |
| 20:32.43 | magyar | stew: aptitude doesnt have spashy only grub-slashimages |
| 20:32.46 | greycat | SerajewelKS: because very few people use ALSA |
| 20:32.48 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: why would it? oss is more common |
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| 20:33.16 | eeEE | why would modprobe be running 99% cpu? |
| 20:33.28 | SerajewelKS | greycat, TheAsp, OSS people should be forced to use ALSA... |
| 20:33.28 | stew | magyar: yeah, it's not in debian yet. sorry. i've just heard its easier becuase its userspace, other than that i dunno |
| 20:33.40 | DoppelGanger | 99% damn over achiever |
| 20:33.44 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: yes, at gunpoint, but thats besides the point |
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| 20:33.49 | greycat | SerajewelKS: tried it once. went back to OSS so I could listen to music without it stuttering and stammering every 60 seconds |
| 20:33.52 | orchid | SerajewelKS: test it with a --without-SDL build |
| 20:33.55 | magyar | stew: np, thanks for splashy :) |
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| 20:34.13 | SerajewelKS | orchid, ... have you ever played bzflag? |
| 20:34.13 | TheAsp | the only thing i have that doesn't work well with alsa is doom3 |
| 20:34.20 | orchid | SerajewelKS: heh |
| 20:34.30 | SerajewelKS | orchid, without SDL we have no keyboard, mouse, or joystick support, no game window |
| 20:34.30 | orchid | SerajewelKS: yes |
| 20:34.32 | stew | magyar: the most common answer to bootsplash questions is of course, dont' worry about it, you shouldn't be rebooting enough to worry about it anyway |
| 20:34.40 | orchid | SerajewelKS: no you wont |
| 20:35.02 | tarzeau | has everybody installed popularity-contest ? please do |
| 20:35.06 | SerajewelKS | orchid, okay, well that point aside, it'd be nice to tell SDL "please use ALSA" |
| 20:35.29 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: thats what the variable i said above does |
| 20:35.31 | greycat | tarzeau: I'm pleased by the new HTTP interface for it. The e-mail config is a righteous bitch for dial-up users. |
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| 20:35.48 | tarzeau | greycat: so am i, so am i. pity it didn't make it into sarge |
| 20:36.00 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, it didn't work with bzflag.. i think bzflag specifies "dsp" when it opens the device |
| 20:36.08 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, or something like that |
| 20:36.12 | magyar | stew: i hear you, but it's a nice feature, i decided to venture into it to find out, looks good on desktop system , I shutit @ night |
| 20:36.16 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: is that bzflag from debian? |
| 20:36.24 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, no, it's self-compiled |
| 20:36.45 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: how did you compile it/ |
| 20:36.51 | greycat | and by dial-up I really mean "anyone with a dynamic IP and no dyn-dns domain registration". When the pop-con email started bouncing because it came without a valid reverse-DNS HELO address, I had to hack the scripts to make them work. |
| 20:37.00 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, i used make... |
| 20:37.13 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: ... |
| 20:37.16 | greycat | that was before wooledge.org existed |
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| 20:37.31 | curby | hmm so to get cron.d to work, i was told to reinstall cron. since many things depend on cron, this means i'll have to uninstall and reinstall a half dozen packages ... unless there's a way to reinstall a package without worrying about dependencies? |
| 20:37.36 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, that's the only answer i can think of, given the question |
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| 20:37.46 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: did you specify any configure options? |
| 20:37.49 | SerajewelKS | curby, apt-get --reinstall, i think |
| 20:37.50 | greycat | curby: dpkg --purge --force-depends cron |
| 20:38.04 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, don't think so |
| 20:38.04 | s_ward | curby: Use apt-get --reinstall or aptitude to reinstall it.. I believe you press L |
| 20:38.08 | greycat | but you can try the --reinstall first. it's less dangerous. |
| 20:38.16 | greycat | also less powerful |
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| 20:38.28 | curby | i prefer less dangerous. thanks =) |
| 20:38.36 | orchid | SerajewelKS: ./configure --enable-debug , run the client with -d -d -d |
| 20:38.51 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: i just fired up bzflag while listening to music and had sound |
| 20:38.54 | balzac | jesus, macintosh computers bug the crap out of me. |
| 20:39.00 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: why not use the deb package? |
| 20:39.00 | balzac | ugh! |
| 20:39.12 | LabThug | Is there anyway I can find out which ssh users are on which tty? |
| 20:39.19 | orchid | TheAsp: same here, with alsa, I play with music cranked up all the time |
| 20:39.21 | SerajewelKS | TheAsp, dunno, debian package seemed to be less responsive with my joystick |
| 20:39.25 | greycat | if they scribble crap in utmp, you can use who(1) |
| 20:39.32 | greycat | I never trust utmp farther than I can throw it. |
| 20:39.42 | tarzeau | balzac: old world, i guess? |
| 20:39.43 | covux | TheAsp: did you use bzflag debian package? |
| 20:39.48 | LabThug | greycat: thanks |
| 20:39.55 | balzac | old world? |
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| 20:40.09 | tarzeau | balzac: grey? hippy colors or white/silver? |
| 20:40.12 | balzac | it's a g3 walstreet, if that's what you mean |
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| 20:40.17 | TheAsp | covux: yes |
| 20:40.20 | tarzeau | balzac: old-world crap |
| 20:40.34 | mondoshawan | Anyone here familiar with Apache::ASP? I'm running Debian unstable and after an upgrade, I've run into an issue where Apache2 refuses to start. |
| 20:40.38 | balzac | i put osx on it, but truth be told, i don't like osx much |
| 20:40.46 | tarzeau | balzac: oh oh. don't say that |
| 20:40.56 | tarzeau | balzac: os x is great and crap mixed |
| 20:41.02 | SerajewelKS | what ./configure option would ask SDL to use ALSA?! |
| 20:41.17 | TheAsp | SerajewelKS: why not look at what was used to make the deb? |
| 20:41.17 | balzac | yeah, what was great came from BSD, what's crap came from apple |
| 20:41.22 | CountZ | I for one am dying to use OSX personally |
| 20:41.24 | covux | TheAsp: k. then bzflag uses the debian packaged libopenal.. |
| 20:41.25 | tarzeau | balzac: not exactly |
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| 20:41.31 | CountZ | as soon as I can buy an intel box that runs it, I will |
| 20:41.33 | braniff | what's the debian apt package name corresponding to fedora/redhat/etc's "gtk2-devel" |
| 20:41.38 | tarzeau | balzac: what apple bought from nextstep is the really great stuff |
| 20:41.48 | tarzeau | balzac: the bsd stuff is quite borked and not that great in it |
| 20:41.48 | CountZ | braniff: You can use dpkg's find feature |
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| 20:42.03 | balzac | hmm |
| 20:42.15 | tarzeau | CountZ: and you don't have the hardware for it or what? |
| 20:42.16 | braniff | ok |
| 20:42.23 | balzac | well, he should have relied on his exorbitant hardware prices and ipod income instead of trying to sell an OS |
| 20:42.31 | CountZ | braniff: but i can't find it: <dpkg> Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'gtk2-devel' returned no results. |
| 20:42.37 | balzac | why not have an open-source OS? |
| 20:42.45 | tarzeau | balzac: you're free to... |
| 20:42.46 | CountZ | tarzeau: I don't have hardware with TPM or that SE3 processor |
| 20:42.46 | eugenesan | hi all, is it possible to use bootlogd with bootup and mountable /ver? |
| 20:42.55 | tarzeau | balzac: i run linux on my ibook dual usb g3 700 |
| 20:43.01 | eugenesan | err, /var |
| 20:43.04 | balzac | maybe i should put yellow dog on it |
| 20:43.04 | greycat | braniff: it's a library, so lib. it's gtk2, so gtk2. it's development, so -dev. libgtk2-dev. if that doesn't work, use apt-cache search. |
| 20:43.06 | tarzeau | balzac: although there's os x on a 3 gig partition |
| 20:43.17 | tarzeau | CountZ: ahhh you want it on intel? |
| 20:43.24 | TheAsp | grrr, i want to buy an iaudio x5 in canada with a case |
| 20:43.25 | tarzeau | CountZ: wanna try OPENSTEP? |
| 20:43.46 | CountZ | tarzeau: I don't want OpenSTEP... I want OSX :-) |
| 20:43.50 | CountZ | I know they are close |
| 20:43.55 | orchid | SerajewelKS: did you try option->audio->driver name? |
| 20:44.03 | tarzeau | CountZ: oh please. they're not close. |
| 20:44.06 | concept10 | I feel like slapping someone |
| 20:44.13 | tarzeau | CountZ: OPENSTEP owns OS X so many times |
| 20:44.16 | CountZ | I actually tried OpenSTEP now that I think of it, few years ago |
| 20:44.17 | abrotman | tarzeau: you lie! |
| 20:44.18 | greycat | !slap concept10 |
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| 20:44.26 | abrotman | !bub-n-bros-smite tarzeau |
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| 20:44.31 | flok420 | I get this error: |
| 20:44.31 | abrotman | :( |
| 20:44.32 | flok420 | Failed to fetch http://ftp.surfnet.nl/os/Linux/distr/debian/pool/main/x/xfree86/xserver-common_4.3.0.dfsg.1-14_i386.deb Size mismatch |
| 20:44.37 | flok420 | even after running apt-get update! |
| 20:44.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's the truth |
| 20:44.42 | braniff | greycat, you are correct -- it turns out to be libgtk2.0-dev |
| 20:44.42 | flok420 | what could it be? |
| 20:44.45 | RvGaTe | Is it possible to track down how many printjobs have been processed, how many in queue, and how many failed? |
| 20:44.46 | balzac | i don't think i'll ever agree to work on anyone's crappy old mac again |
| 20:44.47 | abrotman | !bubnbrossmite tarzeau |
| 20:44.48 | abrotman | yay |
| 20:44.51 | greycat | flok420: try again, or try a different mirror, or just wait a while |
| 20:44.52 | TheAsp | flok420: broken mirror? |
| 20:44.57 | tarzeau | heh |
| 20:45.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: if i ever meet you, i'll drown you in beer |
| 20:45.27 | flok420 | greycat; the problem persists for weeks now. I trief ftp.nl.debian.org (the official) and several others |
| 20:45.39 | greycat | flok420: your /var/cache/apt/archives is full, then? |
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| 20:45.48 | CountZ | tarzeau: I make a distinction between great technology that is absolutely amazing, and technology that simply works right now, and allows me to make video conferences with my peers around the globe |
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| 20:46.03 | CountZ | tarzeau: So unfortunately, this means using WinXP is better than using Linux at the moment |
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| 20:46.19 | CountZ | because on WinXP there are no module wars for the QuickCam driver, for example |
| 20:46.19 | greycat | CountZ: task-dependent. |
| 20:46.28 | greycat | windows is only better at *some* things |
| 20:46.32 | CountZ | I know |
| 20:46.42 | CountZ | but for me, using windows is bad for the karma |
| 20:46.42 | flok420 | greycat: neither. 44% diskspace |
| 20:46.43 | tarzeau | CountZ: and i can't live without awk and real pipes |
| 20:46.49 | CountZ | I don't like it, period. I prefer my Linux box. |
| 20:46.58 | tarzeau | CountZ: what karma? are you trying to impress your girlfriend? |
| 20:47.00 | CountZ | But my peers won't understand it |
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| 20:47.03 | abrotman | tarzeau: thank goodness .. i wouldn't have it any other way :) |
| 20:47.11 | CountZ | tarzeau: no, i'm trying to have fun, and I have more fun on my linux box. |
| 20:47.22 | orchid | SerajewelKS: in the audio settings, type alsa (*press enter*) leave the dev: setting empty and restart bzflag |
| 20:47.36 | CountZ | I like to play with scripts, little programs, regular expressions, automation.. |
| 20:47.48 | SerajewelKS | orchid, after i ran make clean... lol |
| 20:48.02 | SerajewelKS | orchid, thanks, will try after i figure out how to get ./configure to find gl.h ;) |
| 20:48.09 | balzac | hehe |
| 20:48.12 | monster | yeah but setting Xwindows makes me crazy sometimes |
| 20:48.31 | monster | lol |
| 20:48.34 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: you need -dev |
| 20:48.39 | abrotman | !find gl.h |
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| 20:48.47 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gl.h' (6 of 70): (/usr/include/vgagl.h) in libdevel/libsvga1-dev ;; (/usr/share/gnulib/lib/trigl.h) in devel/gnulib ;; (/usr/include/bogl/bogl.h) in libdevel/libbogl-dev ;; (/usr/include/qt3/qgl.h) in libdevel/libqt3-mt-dev ;; (/usr/include/k3d/sdpgl/sdpgl.h) in graphics/k3d-dev ;; (/usr/include/gtkgl/gdkgl.h) in devel/gtkglarea5-dev. |
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| 20:49.02 | abrotman | ok .. none of those |
| 20:49.08 | abrotman | !find include/gl.h |
| 20:49.17 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'include/gl.h' (1): (/usr/lib/erlang/lib/esdl-0.94.1025/include/gl.hrl) in libs/libsdl-erlang. |
| 20:49.22 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 20:49.30 | CountZ | braniff: I got my new woman on OkCupid |
| 20:49.31 | orchid | SerajewelKS: install xlibmesa-gl-dev? |
| 20:49.34 | abrotman | !tell monster about away |
| 20:49.37 | LSorensen | !find include/gl.h$ |
| 20:49.39 | abrotman | orchid: yes |
| 20:49.44 | CountZ | braniff: And in fact she inspired me to write an application called loovle |
| 20:49.47 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'include/gl.h' returned no results. |
| 20:49.49 | orchid | I mean did you? |
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| 20:50.05 | abrotman | orchid: i had swiss cheese for lunch |
| 20:50.10 | CountZ | braniff: it's a simple widget, heart shaped, that blinks on two computers when one is clicked |
| 20:50.19 | CountZ | going to release it soon |
| 20:50.39 | orchid | abrotman: I had a bagel and ceaser salad |
| 20:50.43 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, orchid, i remember having to specify a million arguments to ./configure to get this to work =) |
| 20:51.09 | orchid | SerajewelKS: ./configure --enable-debug && make |
| 20:51.19 | abrotman | xlibmesa-gl-dev |
| 20:51.20 | abrotman | is it |
| 20:51.25 | orchid | SerajewelKS: it will tell you at the end of configure what the build targets are |
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| 20:51.39 | SerajewelKS | orchid, i have that |
| 20:51.43 | SerajewelKS | er |
| 20:51.45 | SerajewelKS | abrotman |
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| 20:51.51 | braniff | CountZ, very cute application |
| 20:51.57 | SerajewelKS | /usr/include/GL/gl.h |
| 20:52.04 | orchid | SerajewelKS: xlibmesa-glu also |
| 20:52.18 | SerajewelKS | orchid, have that too |
| 20:52.19 | orchid | SerajewelKS: #bzflag :) |
| 20:53.02 | SerajewelKS | orchid, i think last time i tried this i had to ./configure and specify an include path... maybe it's looking for <gl.h> instead of <GL/gl.h> |
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| 20:53.09 | JovenComunista | hello |
| 20:53.15 | SerajewelKS | maybe --with-GL-include or something... i'll have a look |
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| 20:53.19 | JovenComunista | wich program can i uso to burn vcd's? |
| 20:53.22 | JovenComunista | use |
| 20:53.27 | monster | graveman |
| 20:53.48 | SerajewelKS | oh wait |
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| 20:54.04 | SerajewelKS | doesn't bzflag hate nvidia-glx? |
| 20:54.09 | SerajewelKS | (when compiling) |
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| 20:57.28 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: wtf are you trying to build ? |
| 20:58.12 | TK-1 | Netsplit Detected irc.freenode.net from: brown.freenode.net |
| 20:58.30 | SerajewelKS | abrptbzflag |
| 20:58.32 | SerajewelKS | blech |
| 20:58.37 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, bzflag |
| 20:58.38 | LaidBack_01 | hey, I want to install phpmyadmin - but I'd like to see what's going to get installed first - is there a tutorial on apt that shows you where to make changes to suit your system - I'm a gentoo/FreeBSD user and debian is a bit different. Apt seems cool, but it's unknown to me. |
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| 20:58.53 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: you could just. . install it |
| 20:59.12 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, that would be the easy way |
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| 20:59.37 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: so do it? |
| 20:59.49 | yoo | Hi ! |
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| 21:00.30 | bushido | hi folsk |
| 21:00.32 | bushido | folks |
| 21:01.06 | yoo | what is softs to burn DVD (except k3b graveman xcdroast because i tried its ) |
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| 21:02.13 | djdrew | Hay every one I am here recruiting new djs for a internet radio station (no experience required) If you want to get your word out and you love talking THIS IT FOR YOU. Come join the fun! Email djdrew@oceaniusradio.com for more info :-D. WE WANT YOU! |
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| 21:02.28 | balzac | little bastard! |
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| 21:03.08 | Martin_ | ? |
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| 21:03.18 | abrotman | i should fucking kill him! |
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| 21:03.24 | balzac | hehe |
| 21:03.37 | PandaKun | yo |
| 21:03.41 | PandaKun | what should i chmod all my folders |
| 21:03.41 | PandaKun | ? |
| 21:03.46 | balzac | i should send him an email - "you stink!" |
| 21:03.46 | PandaKun | like private server files etc |
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| 21:03.51 | PandaKun | 755? |
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| 21:04.04 | abrotman | PandaKun: like which files? |
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| 21:04.09 | PandaKun | like my configurations |
| 21:04.11 | abrotman | PandaKun: you should share your pr0n |
| 21:04.16 | abrotman | PandaKun: don't touch those |
| 21:04.16 | PandaKun | woop woop =] |
| 21:04.20 | PandaKun | ? |
| 21:04.24 | PandaKun | i ment my server configurations |
| 21:04.26 | PandaKun | not my debian config |
| 21:04.34 | abrotman | PandaKun: many of those depend on the permissions already ste |
| 21:04.35 | abrotman | set |
| 21:04.43 | PandaKun | ok |
| 21:04.44 | wers | Need help mounting my camera, its recognised y lsusb and dmesg but what device do i use i tried /dev/sda1 and idéas? |
| 21:05.02 | abrotman | wers: fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 21:05.12 | tHiaGu_ | hello, i try to install oracle 10g (10.2.0) in sarge, but in dbca i follow this error: ORA-12547: TNS: lost contact, can help me? |
| 21:05.18 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, odd... building bzflag from the source package gives the same error |
| 21:05.29 | SerajewelKS | can't find gl.h |
| 21:05.31 | wers | abrotman .. what does that do? |
| 21:05.36 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: sid ? |
| 21:05.43 | abrotman | wers: should show partitions on device |
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| 21:05.56 | stew | wers: do you now if your camera supports usb-storage? /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 21:05.56 | wers | abrotman gives me nothing |
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| 21:06.10 | wers | stew yes it should. |
| 21:06.10 | abrotman | wers: is it plugged in ? |
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| 21:06.19 | wers | abrotman lol,, yes |
| 21:06.20 | LaidBack_01 | hey can someone point me in the direction of installing mysql 4.1 or 5.0 on debian? |
| 21:06.21 | stew | wers: you have sd and usb-storage loaded? |
| 21:06.29 | abrotman | apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 yay |
| 21:06.34 | wers | stew sd? |
| 21:06.39 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, etch |
| 21:06.40 | Orfeous | how can i block some urls in shorewall? |
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| 21:07.07 | stew | wers: sd_mod rather |
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| 21:07.22 | wers | stew ah.. sry. |
| 21:07.34 | wers | stew now i do |
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| 21:07.39 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, it looks like it can't resolve gluScaleImage when linking |
| 21:07.41 | stew | wers: check dmesg |
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| 21:07.45 | SerajewelKS | so it can't find gl.h then |
| 21:07.53 | wers | stew USB Mass Storage support registered. |
| 21:08.12 | RvGaTe | The RX and TX with ifconfig, is Recieve and Transmitted bytes ? |
| 21:08.18 | buu | SerajewelKS: My gl.h came with my video drivers |
| 21:08.22 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=187947;archive=yes |
| 21:08.27 | stew | wers: dmesg should tell you a /dev/sd?? when you attach the camera now |
| 21:08.35 | LaidBack_01 | abrotman, what does the 'yay' at the end do? |
| 21:08.55 | RvGaTe | !ifconfig |
| 21:08.55 | dpkg | i heard ifconfig is the tool you use in Debian to setup how your machine decides how to process "if" conditional statements. if you type `ifconfig all-true` everything will be true. someone also told me it has to viewing and configuring your networking interfaces... |
| 21:09.11 | stew | LaidBack_01: it shows how much abrotman loves mysql, he really loves it |
| 21:09.12 | wers | stew i reattatchedand now it saysusb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 3 |
| 21:09.20 | wers | usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 4 |
| 21:09.21 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, i don't think that's related... |
| 21:09.25 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: i don't love it .. it's crap :) |
| 21:09.35 | abrotman | there's no good reason to use mysql .. ever |
| 21:09.46 | tHiaGu_ | hello, i try to install oracle 10g (10.2.0) in sarge, but in dbca i follow this error: ORA-12547: TNS: lost contact, can help me? |
| 21:09.49 | stew | wers: if it doesn't tell you /dev/sd?? then it probably doesn't support usb-mass-storage |
| 21:09.54 | abrotman | let me try to think of a single one .. ... .. nope .. nothing .. it's crap |
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| 21:10.03 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: seems related to me |
| 21:10.13 | covux | abrotman: alternatives to mysql? |
| 21:10.24 | wers | stew darn.. any other options? |
| 21:10.32 | stew | wers: libgphoto2 |
| 21:10.45 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, it was filed/fixed two years ago... |
| 21:10.47 | abrotman | covux: duh .. pgsql .. like you even had to ask |
| 21:10.53 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: oh .. my bad .. please lart me |
| 21:11.02 | dli | what's the best tool to play a .wma music file (no video)? |
| 21:11.09 | abrotman | totem+codecs |
| 21:11.16 | abrotman | dli: which desktop do you use ? |
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| 21:11.20 | RvGaTe | great, i fucked up my server... now i need to get out this chair, walk 5 steps and reconfigure it with a keyboard connected to the server... :( |
| 21:11.23 | dli | abrotman, gnome |
| 21:11.30 | wers | stew tried that but i cant get to work either, cant find out what port the camera is connected to |
| 21:11.30 | abrotman | dli: totem+codecs :) |
| 21:11.31 | SerajewelKS | abrotman, no thanks... i'm not angry ;) |
| 21:11.34 | LaidBack_01 | abrotman, well.. when they make Zen-cart and OSC run on pgsql or sqllite, I'll use those... but for now mysql is the only answer. |
| 21:11.41 | dli | abrotman, where to find the codecs? |
| 21:11.52 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: any app that depends on mysql also inherently sucks :) |
| 21:11.59 | dli | abrotman, currently, totem opens it and just freezes right away |
| 21:12.07 | abrotman | dli: /msg dpkg marillat .. or grab them from the ftp site without adding the source line |
| 21:12.16 | stew | wers: you should consider installing hotplug, you *really* need to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/ to get the usb permissions set up correctly |
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| 21:12.25 | dli | abrotman, I'll see |
| 21:12.29 | balzac | SerajewelKS |
| 21:12.35 | balzac | SerajewelKS http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30444.html |
| 21:12.39 | wers | stew i have hotplug. |
| 21:13.03 | stew | wers: i'm suprised it hadn't loaded the sd_mod for you |
| 21:13.08 | wers | stew thought usb-perm was..old stuff. |
| 21:13.18 | s_ward | Ick, something depending on MySQL mis-features (put politely) |
| 21:13.21 | SerajewelKS | balzac, ah yes, -lpthread.. how could i forget |
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| 21:13.30 | stew | wers: actually i guess i'm not suprised since you camera doesn't seem to support it :) |
| 21:13.37 | wers | stew i made a few hotplug restarts b4 for other reasons.,, maby thats why,, |
| 21:13.57 | covux | abrotman: sorry for this noobish question but what is "better" about using psql instead of mysql (just never tried it)? |
| 21:14.04 | wers | stew ah,., ok,, i pluged in my mp3 player and it worked like a dream, |
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| 21:14.09 | balzac | SerajewelKS, the power of google |
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| 21:14.12 | abrotman | dli: http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ |
| 21:14.21 | balzac | i'm clueless about your problem, but i know how to use google ;) |
| 21:14.23 | SerajewelKS | balzac, i was trying google, but didn't find anything useful |
| 21:14.36 | dli | abrotman: I already have the w32codecs for mplayer |
| 21:14.44 | balzac | my search was: bzflag + gl.h |
| 21:15.14 | abrotman | !tell covux about mysql gotchas |
| 21:16.11 | SerajewelKS | balzac, yeah i was trying 'make error bzflag "missing gl.h"' -- too specific apparently ;) |
| 21:16.26 | balzac | yeah |
| 21:16.26 | SerajewelKS | d'oh... "configure" error... CONFIGURE... not make |
| 21:16.26 | abrotman | dli: hrm .. works for me .. |
| 21:16.29 | SerajewelKS | <-- idiot |
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| 21:16.46 | balzac | don't worry, i'm more of an idiot |
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| 21:17.03 | balzac | i'm still using windows! |
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| 21:17.12 | balzac | i'm quitting |
| 21:17.14 | SerajewelKS | balzac, haha |
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| 21:17.38 | gg | k |
| 21:17.38 | abrotman | dli: you could try totem-gstreamer also .. |
| 21:17.43 | abrotman | instead of totem-xine |
| 21:18.10 | curby | hmm i'm still testing whether reinstalling cron helped solve my problem. anyonw know why i'd have to reinstall cron to get it to read files in cron.d? |
| 21:18.22 | curby | seems like the microsoft solution of reboot the box to fix the problem |
| 21:18.28 | FarrisG | are there any tools available for doing simple math with variables in a bash script? |
| 21:18.31 | dli | abrotman thanks |
| 21:18.35 | dli | abrotman, trying |
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| 21:19.01 | curby | FarrisG: you can evaluate expressions. tldp.org has the advanced scripting guide with details |
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| 21:19.15 | curby | otherwise i think bc/dc are calculators |
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| 21:19.35 | curby | advanced bash scripting guide, i mean |
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| 21:22.54 | dli | abrotman, totem-gstreamer doesn't work |
| 21:23.21 | abrotman | dli: doesn't work .. or doesn't work any better? |
| 21:23.22 | bushido | how can i watch avi files encoded with x264 under debianß |
| 21:23.23 | dli | abrotman, I got the music file via email from Japan? any idea? |
| 21:23.24 | bushido | ? |
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| 21:23.42 | dli | abrotman, the same thing, totem just freezes |
| 21:23.46 | bushido | i installed x264-bin from marillat but still not working |
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| 21:26.59 | LSorensen | bushido: mplayer with w32codecs might do it |
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| 21:27.56 | abrotman | dli: i'm not japanese :) |
| 21:28.12 | abrotman | dli: you might ask #mplayer .. or ask around on irc.gnome.org about using totem to play it |
| 21:29.12 | drasko | hi all. When I wan to add printer in cups, I am being prompted for the password. Typing root for the username, and my root pass does not work... Whre to check for the config files, and how to turn that autorization off? |
| 21:29.18 | dli | abrotman, I'm not Japanese either :( that's why asking here |
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| 21:30.04 | abrotman | we are siamese if you please ... |
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| 21:32.25 | abrotman | dli: if you're around later .. when i get home i can see what it does to mine |
| 21:33.10 | dli | abrotman, thanks a lot |
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| 21:33.33 | PandaKun | yo |
| 21:33.36 | PandaKun | what is "/usr/sbin/lpd" |
| 21:33.57 | abrotman | !info lp |
| 21:34.02 | abrotman | !info lpr |
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| 21:34.08 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 21:34.08 | dpkg | lpr: (BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system), section net, is standard. Version: 1:2005.05.01 (sid), Packaged size: 115 kB, Installed size: 408 kB |
| 21:34.17 | abrotman | PandaKun: make sense ? |
| 21:34.50 | drasko | hi all. When I wan to add printer in cups, I am being prompted for the password. Typing root for the username, and my root pass does not work... Whre to check for the config files, and how to turn that autorization off? |
| 21:34.57 | PandaKun | nope. |
| 21:35.00 | PandaKun | so can i close it? |
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| 21:35.08 | abrotman | PandaKun: uninstall lpr if you don't print |
| 21:35.13 | PandaKun | oh okie |
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| 21:35.32 | PandaKun | yo abrot you good with mysql? |
| 21:35.35 | PandaKun | the #mysql chan is no help it seems |
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| 21:36.33 | PandaKun | !atd |
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| 21:37.00 | [bono] | Question: Ive got a broken packaging system. Doing 'apt-get -f install' gives me: "Unpacking replacement libc6 / dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb / unable to create `./usr/sbin/zic': Permission denied. How do I solve this? Anyone? |
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| 21:42.34 | SerajewelKS | balzac, what do i tell bzflag for the audio driver again? i tried "alsa" but that didn't work |
| 21:43.01 | orchid | SerajewelKS: does the game build now? |
| 21:43.05 | SerajewelKS | orchid, yes |
| 21:43.13 | hmakholm | bono: Are you sure you're not running apt-get under fakeroot or something like that? |
| 21:43.15 | orchid | SerajewelKS: in the audio settings, type alsa (*press enter*) leave the dev: setting empty and restart bzflag |
| 21:43.34 | orchid | options>audio |
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| 21:46.09 | SerajewelKS | orchid, i did... |
| 21:46.13 | SerajewelKS | orchid, it still wants to use dsp |
| 21:46.58 | SerajewelKS | orchid, looks like it's *trying* alsa now |
| 21:47.04 | robo | cant get my scroll on my mouse to work in XFREE86, please somone who knows how to get generic mouse via usb to work correct ? |
| 21:47.29 | SerajewelKS | orchid, it's trying alsa but can't open the device or something, even when no other programs are using audio |
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| 21:47.48 | orchid | SerajewelKS: I dunno then, join #bzflag and ask |
| 21:48.02 | SerajewelKS | orchid, with -d it says "Couldn't open audio: No available audio device" |
| 21:48.22 | nkuttler | robo: try /msg dpkg mousewheel |
| 21:48.38 | sgeigerbot | [bono]: Can you move /usr/sbin/zic out of the way and then install? |
| 21:48.41 | robo | nkuttler, thx mate! i'll try that! |
| 21:48.56 | sgeigerbot | !nkuttler |
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| 21:51.11 | fuchsto | i have a rather stoopid question (most probably): A colleague of mine did a kernel upgrade on a remote debian (sarge) server. Now, it doesn't boot any more. There is an error message like: 'could not find superblock for writing filesystem' (well, something like that). I booted in rescue mode, and checked file system integrity using xfs_check. It did not report any inconsistencies. Afterwards, i launched depmod, and it prints some dozen error message |
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| 21:52.19 | swim | hey folks, apt-cache search is not returning nvidia-kernel-source... |
| 21:52.23 | sgeigerbot | fuchsto: Can the machine be booted from a floppy or CD? |
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| 21:52.35 | tvsl | Mark Shuttleworth live at http://live.softwarelivre.org/8000 |
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| 21:52.41 | tvsl | Mark Shuttleworth live at http://live.softwarelivre.org:8000 |
| 21:52.41 | covux | SerajewelKS: maybe again dumb question but did you basic test youre dmix setup e.g. by running 100000 xmms simultanously all using alsa? |
| 21:52.49 | swim | im using sid |
| 21:52.51 | fuchsto | sgeigerbot: I can boot via tftp. So: I can boot a rescue system and mount my hd to /mnt |
| 21:52.58 | drasko | hi all. When I wan to add printer in cups, I am being prompted for the password. Typing root for the username, and my root pass does not work... Whre to check for the config files, and how to turn that autorization off? |
| 21:53.10 | nylon | anyone had success installing postgresql 8 on debian sarge |
| 21:53.11 | fuchsto | sgeigerbot: then chroot /mnt /bin/bash --login ... well, that's all. |
| 21:53.18 | nkuttler | swim: missing non-free sources? |
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| 21:53.56 | swim | nkuttler: oh yah thx |
| 21:54.17 | sgeigerbot | tvsl: I hear no sound |
| 21:54.39 | fuchsto | sgeigerbot: i can operate on it quite normally, but i don't get any boot messages, as it's a remote machine. |
| 21:54.44 | beardy | drasko: There is a utillity to set that password, cupspasswd or something like that. It's a confusing thing IMHO though, to have it's own auth thing.. |
| 21:54.45 | nylon | I keep getting the following error with postgresql: psql: FATAL: user "root" does not exist |
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| 21:55.56 | nkuttler | nylon: when do you get that error? |
| 21:56.00 | drasko | beardy, i'll check it out |
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| 21:56.53 | fuchsto | so, any idea what i should do about depmod hollering at me because of unresolved symbols? |
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| 21:59.03 | robo | nkuttler: Thank you very much, i inserted "IMPS/2" instead of "PS/2". now it works well! ;) |
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| 22:02.15 | bushido | LSorensen: unfortunately i cant install mplayer because of unsolved dependencies :'-( |
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| 22:03.06 | LaidBack_01 | uh, yeah, so what's the php-mysql.so called in debian? I have php5 and mysql5 running, and would like for them to talk to each other. |
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| 22:03.48 | psychonate | How can I get 'apt-get install <package>' to also get the recommended packages? |
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| 22:04.10 | LSorensen | bushido: really? |
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| 22:04.25 | LSorensen | bushido: you must be running sid |
| 22:04.41 | gnewbie | Anyone build gnome-2.12 or module from CVS trought jhbuild? |
| 22:05.04 | balzac | LaidBack_01, there's a command to update your apt-get |
| 22:05.04 | bushido | LSorensen: yes i do |
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| 22:05.13 | swim | hrmm should nvidia-kernel-common be in apt? |
| 22:05.15 | swim | im using sid |
| 22:05.17 | swim | i386 |
| 22:05.19 | balzac | there's another command to search the apt-get |
| 22:05.23 | LaidBack_01 | and is there a way to have apt-get search for all packages with <keyword> in them? eg, in gentoo, I do emerge -s mysql, and everything that has mysql comes up in a list. I then merge the packages I want. I'm sure there is a way for apt to do something simlar - any help? |
| 22:05.26 | balzac | yes |
| 22:05.36 | swim | balzac: yes to me? |
| 22:05.44 | balzac | no, to LaidBack_01 |
| 22:05.47 | balzac | sorry |
| 22:05.50 | fuchsto | i have a rather stoopid question (most probably): A colleague of mine did a kernel upgrade on a remote debian (sarge) server. Now, it doesn't boot any more. There is an error message like: 'could not find superblock for writing filesystem' (well, something like that). I booted in rescue mode, and checked file system integrity using xfs_check. It did not report any inconsistencies. Afterwards, i launched depmod, and it prints some dozen error message |
| 22:05.50 | swim | np |
| 22:05.58 | curby | well that's curious. i reinstalled cron and all of the sudden it's reading from cron.d like it was suppoesd to all along. anyone know why the reinstall would make it work? i hopt this isn't the sort of thing i have to do often =) |
| 22:05.59 | jd|laptop | LaidBack_01, yes- apt-cache search <keyword> |
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| 22:06.29 | balzac | would 'apt-cache update' work to update the cache? |
| 22:06.37 | swim | yes |
| 22:06.44 | swim | or just apt-get update |
| 22:06.45 | LaidBack_01 | jd|laptop, thanks |
| 22:07.04 | gnewbie | dfadel, oooooh |
| 22:07.12 | dfadel | gnewbie, hi there |
| 22:07.27 | LaidBack_01 | jd|laptop, I might just go back to using dselect for now... it seems somehow better to me - I guess I kinda grew up on that. |
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| 22:07.46 | curby | i believe apt-cache search somename just looks for "^somename.*" right? might want to search for all and then grep for your keyword if so |
| 22:07.52 | gnewbie | dfadel, irc vicious |
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| 22:09.06 | LSorensen | swim: it should be if you have contrib and non-free in sources.list |
| 22:09.44 | LSorensen | curby: it looks for keyword in the package names and descriptions |
| 22:09.57 | swim | sorry its been awhile since Ive used debian, forgot contrib |
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| 22:10.32 | wers | apt-get install phpsysinfo |
| 22:11.19 | curby | LSorensen: oh ok. i thought i once got more results by piping all to grep but i probably did something wrong |
| 22:11.29 | concept10 | is there a way to undo a tar operation, for example delete the last performed extraction |
| 22:11.35 | LSorensen | curby: i would think so. |
| 22:12.00 | hmakholm | concept10: Use rm(1) to delete files. |
| 22:12.11 | concept10 | whats the (1)? |
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| 22:13.01 | hmakholm | concept10: Unix tradition for referring to commands is to put (1) after the command name. It's the section number of the manpage for the command. |
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| 22:13.35 | concept10 | hmakholm, I appreciate the history lesson. |
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| 22:14.12 | curby | LSorensen: i was using apt-cache pkgnames instead of apt-cache search =) |
| 22:14.14 | hmakholm | concept10: Glad to be of service. You did ask. |
| 22:14.24 | ixion | does anyone know a URL for one of those website where you can download pre-made PHP scripts? |
| 22:14.54 | LSorensen | curby: ahh |
| 22:15.23 | concept10 | hmakholm, i was serious, i wasnt being sarcastic |
| 22:16.04 | concept10 | ixion, hotscripts maybe |
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| 22:16.21 | PeterB | ixion: hotscripts.com IIRC |
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| 22:16.55 | cddesjar | i forgot how to update the debian menu...is it menu update? |
| 22:17.06 | concept10 | what is the cmd for opening files in the default editor? Im tired of typing nano |
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| 22:17.13 | s_ward | cddesjar: update-menus |
| 22:17.27 | ixion | ta |
| 22:17.30 | s_ward | concept10: editor, that's more to type :) |
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| 22:17.51 | s_ward | concept10: you could use vi, that's less :D |
| 22:18.23 | cddesjar | hmm..none of the programs that i have added are showing up on the menu for windowmaker |
| 22:18.25 | s_ward | concept10: but I'd read about it first, or enjoy working out how to quit it |
| 22:18.45 | concept10 | s_ward, somone told me someway, i forgot - it was ee - or something like that |
| 22:18.58 | Phated | It was ZZ in command mode. |
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| 22:19.08 | concept10 | s_ward, you mean trying to get VIM to quit? |
| 22:19.15 | LSorensen | cddesjar: is 'menu' package installed? |
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| 22:19.35 | shift-u | Hello everone |
| 22:19.41 | s_ward | cddesjar: you might need to restart windowmaker |
| 22:19.52 | shift-u | I have a little big problem with the size of the font of the X |
| 22:19.55 | PeterB | concept10: You could make an alias for nano if you wish. Though I don't think a four letter word takes long to type. |
| 22:19.57 | concept10 | s_ward, heh, yeah I tried to use vi or vim once, couldnt exit out from it and I had to kill the process. That is damn crazy |
| 22:20.04 | LaidBack_01 | hey, what is the package I use to get php and mysql to talk to each other? |
| 22:20.04 | s_ward | concept10: vi, vim, almost the same, but yeah, I always use vim |
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| 22:20.26 | bsims | I have a really stupid question... why does installing the new x-window-system-core want to remove kdebase-dev kdelibs4-dev libarts1-dev libqt3-mt-dev? These are KDE development files, WhyTF does it care what Xserver I am running |
| 22:20.36 | concept10 | PeterB, four letters are not much to type, im just trying to reduce some keystrokes |
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| 22:20.42 | shift-u | It's too small and I don't know how to set it higher... |
| 22:20.42 | s_ward | concept10: there is elvis too |
| 22:20.51 | chealer | LaidBack_01: php4-mysql adds the mysql module to php4 |
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| 22:21.22 | chealer | bsims: what new x-window-system-core? |
| 22:21.55 | concept10 | why cant you remove directories with 'rm'? it that old school security? |
| 22:22.04 | s_ward | concept10: rmdir |
| 22:22.10 | bsims | chealer: in Sid |
| 22:22.18 | LSorensen | concept10: rm -r or rmdir |
| 22:22.27 | chealer | bsims: are you running sid? |
| 22:22.30 | shift-u | Does anybody knows how to do it???? |
| 22:22.31 | bsims | yeah |
| 22:22.35 | arcane | Can anyone tell me how to tell if im running libc5 or not? |
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| 22:22.50 | curby | concept10: neither rm or rmdir can delete nonempty directories. it's just that for rm you must specify -r for recursion |
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| 22:22.55 | chealer | arcane: dpkg -l libc5, presumably |
| 22:22.57 | beardy | concept10: You can, but it prevents you when you are not giving it the options to do it. |
| 22:22.57 | LSorensen | arcane: I would guess not. |
| 22:23.11 | LSorensen | arcane: libc5 became obsolete at least 5 years ago |
| 22:23.12 | mrwill | concept10: it's because it's a different system call |
| 22:23.21 | concept10 | alright, thanks guys |
| 22:23.25 | arcane | humm.. then im gonna guess that my NIS will work with shadow :) |
| 22:23.28 | arcane | Thank you |
| 22:23.33 | mrwill | concept10: removing a file is a different operation than a directory, at least to the kernel. |
| 22:23.34 | TyreseJones | Is it possible to remove ALL packages, except the ones I want, and thier dependencies? From the command line? |
| 22:23.38 | chealer | arcane: hehe :) |
| 22:23.53 | dondelelcaro | TyreseJones: yes, use aptitude to do that. |
| 22:23.58 | LSorensen | arcane: debian has used libc6 (glibc 2.x) since debian 2.0 I think (at least 2.1) |
| 22:24.02 | curby | man freenode is so educational. too bad i'd get nothing done if i sat here reading all day |
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| 22:24.09 | arcane | oki |
| 22:24.11 | dondelelcaro | TyreseJones: mark all packages save for the ones you actually want as automatically installed, and those that you don't need will be automatically removed. |
| 22:24.20 | arcane | Then I should be ok. |
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| 22:24.53 | chealer | bsims: of course, if you're asking here, you already verified that all those packages were installable? |
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| 22:25.05 | concept10 | curby, you mean educational as in college credits? |
| 22:25.25 | bsims | chealer: it is according to --dry-run but I was asking why it wanted to remove them. |
| 22:25.49 | curby | concept10: i learn about linux (or whatever) here =) |
| 22:26.03 | concept10 | dammit, i cant delete files over nautilus using sftp] |
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| 22:26.07 | psychonate | Has anyone used the HPOJ driver? |
| 22:26.26 | LSorensen | bsims: dependancy conflicts or conflicts: tend to cause removals. |
| 22:26.31 | chealer | bsims: "it is", or "they are"? |
| 22:26.42 | concept10 | psychonate, whats the problem |
| 22:26.51 | drasko | hi all. When I wan to add printer in cups, I am being prompted for the password. Typing root for the username, and my root pass does not work... Whre to check for the config files, and how to turn that autorization off? |
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| 22:27.11 | bsims | LSorensen: it appears to be related to the GL updates for Xorg according to -devel |
| 22:28.05 | LSorensen | bsims: well hopefully in a few days it will be ok. of course sometimes a package is replaced by another package and the old one is removed to let the new one install |
| 22:28.09 | psychonate | concept10, well, when I installed hpoj, it ran a setup utility and I've set my network printer up fine in that utility. Now that the hpoj driver is configured, what do I need to do next? |
| 22:28.30 | psychonate | concept10, I assume I need to tell cups to use that driver, but I'm not sure how. |
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| 22:28.59 | beardy | drasko: Didn't you find the password management utillity, or do you actually want to disable it? /etc/cups.conf or /etc/cups/some.conf should contain it. |
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| 22:29.22 | psychonate | concept10, GNOME has a printer utility, but it doesn't have HPOJ as an option, unless "HP JetDirect" is the same thing. |
| 22:29.32 | bsims | LSorensen: yeah that's what the fine Devels said |
| 22:29.46 | Ronin | psychonate: yes hp jetdirect is likely the same thing |
| 22:30.09 | curby | before i get in too much trouble, support for external firewire hard drives is typically built in right? i've been searching packages.debian.org and such for firewire information but there's little of it |
| 22:30.30 | psychonate | well, I don't think this GNOME utility is working well for me anyway |
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| 22:30.53 | motod3 | how do I find out processor speed, memory, hd info, etc? |
| 22:31.04 | concept10 | psychonate, HP JetDirect is not the same thing |
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| 22:31.31 | beardy | curby: It's a kernel thing. The support (if it exists) is in the kernel. Try google instead, "linux firewire drive model" or something? |
| 22:31.31 | drasko | beardy, somehow cups dont understand my root password... |
| 22:31.42 | curby | beardy: k, thanks =) |
| 22:31.50 | arcane | When i list my hosts with ypcat for my NIS server and it lists each host twice. Is that a problem? |
| 22:32.08 | psychonate | concept10, also, do I need foomatic? |
| 22:32.10 | concept10 | psychonate, I use the hpjis driver. I have the HP OfficeJet 6110 all in one monster |
| 22:32.48 | psychonate | concept10, hpjis eh? I have an HP PSC 2510 all-in-one wireless LAN printer. |
| 22:32.53 | beardy | drasko: No it doesn't, it uses it's own passwd file for authorization for some reason, and you have to set it using cupspasswd (or what it is called) before you can use it. |
| 22:33.00 | psychonate | concept10, I thought HPOJ was the driver to be used with it. |
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| 22:33.15 | bsims | concept10: I have a Laserjet 4+ with 50mb ram, postscript, and duplexer... 70lbs of printer. I figgure I could break most other printers with mine |
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| 22:33.34 | concept10 | psychonate, im not sure about that, when I configure a printer in GNOME its super easy. (but I use Ubuntu with gnome 2.10) im not sure about debian, it should be the same |
| 22:33.54 | curby | sweet ieee1394 ohci 1394 and sbp2 are all installed and loaded already =) |
| 22:34.03 | concept10 | bsims, please dont drop your printer on mine. |
| 22:34.17 | psychonate | I hate messing with printers |
| 22:34.19 | psychonate | always sucks |
| 22:34.22 | bsims | concept10: I'd be hard-pressed to lift the damned thing |
| 22:34.27 | beardy | drasko: Try typing cups<TAB><TAB> and see what you get.. |
| 22:34.30 | concept10 | psychonate, what are you using? |
| 22:34.36 | bsims | psychonate: Of course it sucks it's hardware ain't it? |
| 22:34.48 | concept10 | psychonate, Gnome 2.8 with sarge? |
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| 22:35.16 | wupe | Hi, I got a Thinkpad 600e with a cirrus logic 4610 from some site i heard about using cs4232 instead. i remove the old driver from the kernel, somebody know how to do the rest please |
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| 22:35.22 | concept10 | bsims, I wish I had a laser printer. I would print half the web |
| 22:35.35 | PandaKun | !getty |
| 22:35.36 | dpkg | getty is probably the lead singer of Rush. No, wait! That's Geddy!, or what calls login |
| 22:35.52 | beardy | drasko: or 'apropos cups | less' |
| 22:35.53 | psychonate | concept10, 2.8.3 on Etch |
| 22:35.58 | bsims | concept10: check FleaBay I paid about 170USD for my beast... |
| 22:35.59 | abrotman | dli: ? |
| 22:36.25 | concept10 | bsims, for a laserjet 4? isnt that an ancient printer? |
| 22:36.38 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:36.43 | abrotman | but good |
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| 22:37.13 | granden | HI what shall I add to my source.list to be able to apt-get xorg? |
| 22:37.17 | curby | old laserjets are built very well. i'm not surprised if they don't depreciate much |
| 22:37.29 | bsims | concept10: but it lasts forever and that was counting shipping <g> |
| 22:37.32 | curby | like old mac laptops are still pricey |
| 22:37.52 | bsims | concept10: the engine is good for about 1 million pages |
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| 22:38.25 | concept10 | bsims, I believe you. See, thats why I dont wear out my Officejet, because I dont want to kill it |
| 22:38.31 | bsims | granden: sid but you may want to wait a while |
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| 22:38.55 | abrotman | granden: are you using sid ? |
| 22:39.13 | abrotman | bsims: don't tell people to add sid |
| 22:39.24 | bsims | concept10: 170US for the ancient tank that was Done Right vs 3000USD for the replacement that dates from the Fionia Era |
| 22:39.42 | granden | I am using stable |
| 22:39.50 | bsims | abrotman: true but that /was/ the answer to his question... |
| 22:39.53 | abrotman | granden: stable doesn't have xorg .. do you need it |
| 22:39.57 | abrotman | bsims: actually .. no it wasn't |
| 22:40.03 | bsims | I sit corrected |
| 22:40.21 | concept10 | what is this : * #debian :Cannot send to channel |
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| 22:40.34 | bsims | My Gods I admitted an error on IRC... the death squads are enroute |
| 22:40.35 | granden | what is the anme of the mouse daemon ? |
| 22:40.36 | abrotman | concept10: what are you trying to send ? |
| 22:40.49 | abrotman | mouse daemon? for the console ? |
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| 22:41.08 | concept10 | abrotman, not me, some guy pm'd me and said he cant talk in the channel after registering his nick |
| 22:41.21 | abrotman | concept10: really .. and what is his nick/host ? |
| 22:41.24 | abrotman | concept10: who is it ? |
| 22:41.25 | jcb | i have 2 serial interfaces on my computer. i have included serial drivers in the kernel. can someone tell me what the device nodes should be called? |
| 22:41.28 | concept10 | Initiate, |
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| 22:41.41 | abrotman | concept10: because he's root |
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| 22:41.44 | abrotman | !tell Initiate about root |
| 22:42.15 | bsims | later |
| 22:42.24 | s_ward | That's why apt hasn't been shouting about root lately :) |
| 22:42.37 | abrotman | yeah .. but i don't know what we have ot do to fix him |
| 22:42.40 | abrotman | ~who owns you |
| 22:42.40 | apt | TimRiker does |
| 22:42.44 | granden | abrotman yeah for the absh mode |
| 22:42.47 | granden | bash* |
| 22:42.51 | abrotman | !gpm |
| 22:42.51 | dpkg | i heard gpm is if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
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| 22:43.04 | cddesjar | how do i change my wallpaper in windowmaker? |
| 22:43.15 | abrotman | xsetroot ? |
| 22:43.17 | abrotman | !xsetroot |
| 22:43.18 | dpkg | hmm... xsetroot is a program that doesn't handle any modern graphics formats, try qiv instead |
| 22:43.21 | abrotman | oh goodie |
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| 22:43.33 | concept10 | abrotman, he logs into as normal user |
| 22:43.43 | abrotman | concept10: logs into what ? |
| 22:44.02 | abrotman | concept10: he's ircing as root .. i can't change the fact that root can't speak here |
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| 22:44.31 | concept10 | abrotman, ... I was saying the way he fixes his problem is log into a normal user |
| 22:44.34 | abrotman | oh |
| 22:44.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:44.36 | concept10 | account |
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| 22:44.55 | DdTComp | hi |
| 22:44.58 | concept10 | poor guy, he probably rebooted |
| 22:45.11 | abrotman | wait til he comes back and see |
| 22:45.13 | DdTComp | i got trouble using my remote wonder from ATI in debian sarge |
| 22:45.28 | abrotman | i have a local wonder |
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| 22:46.21 | abrotman | DdTComp: could we have more description of the problem |
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| 22:47.32 | dli | abrotman, yes, got home? |
| 22:47.34 | DdTComp | ok.... |
| 22:47.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:47.53 | abrotman | !tell b2IRC-out about away |
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| 22:48.29 | dli | abrotman, vlc complains about fourcc `wma2' |
| 22:48.36 | abrotman | dli: got a url ? |
| 22:48.52 | dli | abrotman, can I dcc to you? |
| 22:48.54 | DdTComp | i am currently using windoes and debian but i want to completly tranfer to debian. i want to use my tvtunner (from my ati wall in wonder) and its remote wonder. i found some howtos, but none worked. i dont know what to do. |
| 22:48.58 | abrotman | dli: firewall won't allow :) |
| 22:49.10 | abrotman | DdTComp: maybe ask #ati |
| 22:49.14 | dli | abrotman, okay, let me put it on http |
| 22:49.17 | DdTComp | i cant "make" the remote wonder drivers |
| 22:49.23 | DdTComp | k |
| 22:49.23 | DdTComp | tnx |
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| 22:50.00 | dli | abrotman, slow dsl here, it will take a while |
| 22:50.11 | abrotman | dli: how big is it ? |
| 22:50.29 | dli | abrotman, 5.0 MB |
| 22:50.38 | abrotman | oh .. ok |
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| 22:51.07 | initiate | hello |
| 22:51.23 | abrotman | yay |
| 22:51.42 | abrotman | initiate: sorry .. we don't allow people who irc as root to speak in here |
| 22:51.44 | initiate | thanks for the help,concept10 |
| 22:52.06 | initiate | i understand |
| 22:52.24 | initiate | now can i ask about my problem lol |
| 22:52.28 | initiate | :) |
| 22:52.30 | abrotman | yep |
| 22:52.42 | initiate | well i just installed debian gnu 3.1 |
| 22:52.56 | initiate | all my music/video files are running but without sound :/ |
| 22:52.57 | abrotman | !party |
| 22:52.57 | dpkg | [party] Lego, and alcohol |
| 22:52.59 | concept10 | np |
| 22:53.06 | abrotman | initiate: are you in the audio group? |
| 22:53.23 | LaidBack_01 | okay, this is pretty screwy, I have mysql4.1 installed, mysqlclient4.1 php5 installed, but because I want php5-mysql installed, I have to install mysqlclient4.0.24 And, to top it off, freakin php WANTS to use 4.0.24 and wont authenticate with mysql 4.1 if I turn on the new encryption methods. |
| 22:53.23 | initiate | what do you mean abrotman ? |
| 22:53.35 | abrotman | initiate: adduser <yourusername> audio .. then logout/login again |
| 22:53.59 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: sounds like the php/mysql is based on the old mysql client crap |
| 22:54.06 | initiate | i tried as root and the music is still not playing |
| 22:54.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 574] by debhelper |
| 22:54.10 | PandaKun | !ntpd |
| 22:54.17 | PandaKun | !lpd |
| 22:54.17 | dpkg | i heard lpd is Line Printer Daemon |
| 22:54.19 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: if you don't need advanced mysql stuff .. you might be able to try odbc |
| 22:54.21 | abrotman | !ntp |
| 22:54.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 22:54.40 | abrotman | initiate: are you using alsa or oss drivers? |
| 22:54.41 | RvGaTe | How can i check how many Completed print jobs there are with either bash or a file thats readable... |
| 22:54.41 | dli | abrotman, http://riz-charmant.uchicago.edu/01.wma |
| 22:54.46 | curby | ntp is so cool =) |
| 22:55.07 | abrotman | dli: took me like 7 seconds to download :) |
| 22:55.08 | PandaKun | hmm |
| 22:55.09 | initiate | whatever comes with the OS as default abrotman |
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| 22:55.26 | LaidBack_01 | abrotman, well, I just want phpmyadmin to work - that's the ONLY reason I installed php5 - was to make an easy interface for the coldfusion guys |
| 22:55.29 | initiate | sorry about questions like that but i`m REALLY new to this :/ |
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| 22:55.37 | dli | abrotman, yeah, the server has 100 Mbps LAN |
| 22:56.02 | abrotman | heh |
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| 22:56.09 | abrotman | initiate: uname -a |
| 22:56.16 | abrotman | initiate: and which sound card? |
| 22:56.40 | initiate | integrated sound card to a mainboard ... |
| 22:56.46 | initiate | ASUS P4S800 |
| 22:56.46 | abrotman | dli: when i run it with totem .. it has no length |
| 22:56.49 | PissedTrixBunny | I have vsftpd running. I did: useradd -d homedir -g groupname username.... and then I did a passwd and it updated sucessfully. However, when I try to log onto ftp, it says that I have a 530 error: login incorrect. Am I missing something... please help. thanks |
| 22:56.52 | abrotman | initiate: lspci .. find the sound model |
| 22:57.15 | initiate | 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0) |
| 22:57.16 | abrotman | like 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) |
| 22:57.16 | s_ward | RvGaTe: lpq might work, not sure though |
| 22:57.18 | PissedTrixBunny | oh, I did get into the server with another user |
| 22:57.29 | abrotman | dli: have you tried it on a windows box? |
| 22:57.35 | RvGaTe | s_ward: ill give it a try |
| 22:57.36 | dli | abrotman, I have no windows here |
| 22:57.37 | s_ward | RvGaTe: sorry, that's currently queued, not completed |
| 22:57.38 | PissedTrixBunny | please help... I really want to go home it';s freakin' 7 at night |
| 22:57.47 | abrotman | dli: no loser friends with windows? |
| 22:57.58 | abrotman | initiate: install discover .. |
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| 22:58.02 | RvGaTe | s_ward: that was my next question tho, thx ;) :P |
| 22:58.16 | dli | abrotman, not in my control |
| 22:58.20 | abrotman | dli: hrm ... |
| 22:58.22 | beardy | drasko: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/02/msg01231.html |
| 22:58.30 | initiate | abrotman, what's discover ? |
| 22:58.44 | abrotman | initiate: it's a program .. apt-get install discover |
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| 22:58.49 | granden | hmm |
| 22:58.49 | initiate | kk |
| 22:58.52 | granden | I isntaled xorg |
| 22:59.01 | abrotman | how did you do that ? |
| 22:59.03 | granden | but when I type startx I get command not found |
| 22:59.05 | abrotman | wait .. i don't want to know |
| 22:59.06 | granden | apt-get |
| 22:59.15 | initiate | just to ask |
| 22:59.16 | dli | granden, unstable? |
| 22:59.20 | granden | stable |
| 22:59.22 | granden | backport |
| 22:59.29 | PissedTrixBunny | I have vsftpd running. I did: useradd -d homedir -g groupname username.... and then I did a passwd and it updated sucessfully. However, when I try to log onto ftp, it says that I have a 530 error: login incorrect. Am I missing something... please help. thanks |
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| 22:59.49 | initiate | nvm |
| 22:59.50 | initiate | brb |
| 22:59.59 | granden | why do I get command not found on startx? |
| 23:00.22 | PissedTrixBunny | granden, did you install x-window-system? |
| 23:00.27 | dli | granden, do you have xorgconfig ? |
| 23:00.38 | abrotman | granden: did you install xserver-xorg ? |
| 23:00.39 | granden | dli I have a xorg config |
| 23:00.47 | granden | I did isntall xserver-xorg yes |
| 23:01.01 | dli | granden, xorgconfig is the replacement of xf86config |
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| 23:01.09 | abrotman | granden: and if you type startx<tab><tab> .. doe you get anything ? |
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| 23:01.24 | granden | abrotman: no |
| 23:01.28 | granden | dli: I know |
| 23:01.31 | eeEE | anyone have an idea why modprobe would be using 99% CPU? |
| 23:01.38 | abrotman | granden: maybe it's not called startx anymore |
| 23:01.41 | Chete | hola |
| 23:01.42 | Chete | ? |
| 23:01.44 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:01.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 23:02.19 | abrotman | dli: i have played wma files before .. |
| 23:02.27 | abrotman | dli: is it possible the file is corrupt ? |
| 23:03.01 | granden | abrotman: thatseams pretty wired to change it jsut like that |
| 23:03.16 | Chete | http://soleup.eup.uva.es/nacho |
| 23:03.17 | spf | my libcrypto lib is corrupted, does anyone know the name of the package it's in? |
| 23:03.17 | abrotman | granden: you just moved from xfree to xorg |
| 23:03.22 | PissedTrixBunny | I have vsftpd running. I did: useradd -d homedir -g groupname username.... and then I did a passwd and it updated sucessfully. However, when I try to log onto ftp, it says that I have a 530 error: login incorrect. Am I missing something... please help. thanks |
| 23:03.23 | s_ward | granden: granden do you have xbase-clients? |
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| 23:03.42 | granden | soon I just started to install that :P |
| 23:03.42 | s_ward | *ahem* didn't mean to call you twice :) |
| 23:03.53 | abrotman | ok .. that was horrible.. from russia with love is on .. and they show the girl saying "i'm gonna take this off" then they show the wheels of the train with the pistons etc ... then cut back to them in bed |
| 23:03.57 | granden | abrotman: no I havent used xfree for a long timed |
| 23:04.04 | stew | spf: /msg dpkg search |
| 23:04.05 | dli | abrotman, very unlikely, I asked my friend to resend, and the files are identical, and she can play there |
| 23:04.12 | granden | I used gentoo before but wanted to use debian now and keep to xorg |
| 23:04.13 | abrotman | hrm |
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| 23:04.36 | harleyg | has anyone god a cgi-irc script i can use that can use any server/channel |
| 23:04.46 | abrotman | dli: i'm gonna try vlc |
| 23:04.58 | abrotman | harleyg: that doesn't make sense |
| 23:05.03 | dli | abrotman, doesn't work here, see what's your result |
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| 23:05.09 | initiate | hi again |
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| 23:05.24 | harleyg | cgi:irc |
| 23:05.26 | initiate | abrotman, i installed discover and still it's not working |
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| 23:05.38 | harleyg | has someone got one uploaded to there server that i can use |
| 23:05.43 | initiate | also as rood i tried adduser <username> audio |
| 23:05.46 | harleyg | and it has to be allowed to connec to anyserver/channel |
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| 23:05.52 | abrotman | dli: it plays .. but no sound |
| 23:06.00 | initiate | and got the response - initiate is already a member of this group |
| 23:06.03 | abrotman | harleyg: no .. |
| 23:06.10 | harleyg | ok |
| 23:06.12 | abrotman | initiate: and no sound for root either ? |
| 23:06.13 | stew | initiate: type "groups" does audio show up in the list of groups? |
| 23:06.18 | abrotman | initiate: uname -a .. show me |
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| 23:06.52 | initiate | initiate@purepwnage:~$ groups |
| 23:06.52 | initiate | initiate dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev |
| 23:07.00 | PissedTrixBunny | I have vsftpd running. I did: useradd -d homedir -g groupname username.... and then I did a passwd and it updated sucessfully. However, when I try to log onto ftp, it says that I have a 530 error: login incorrect. Am I missing something... please help. thanks |
| 23:07.04 | PissedTrixBunny | please help me |
| 23:07.07 | PissedTrixBunny | I want to go home |
| 23:07.09 | initiate | and no ... no sound for root either |
| 23:07.09 | PissedTrixBunny | it's so late |
| 23:07.35 | dli | abrotman, I got an error with vlc, main decoder error: |
| 23:08.09 | abrotman | dli: i've never used vlc though .. |
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| 23:08.28 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: what's the shell? |
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| 23:08.37 | PissedTrixBunny | abrotman, bash |
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| 23:08.44 | initiate | abrotman, that's what i get with uname -a |
| 23:08.44 | initiate | Linux purepwnage 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:08.45 | RCAM | Howdy. |
| 23:09.02 | beardy | initiate: Please run the command 'uname -a' and paste what it says here. |
| 23:09.07 | spf | hmm, I still get the same error msg, even after reinstalling the package: "error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14" |
| 23:09.20 | abrotman | initiate: what kind of cpu ? |
| 23:09.22 | initiate | beardy, that's what it says when i run uname -a |
| 23:09.33 | RCAM | What is the Debian Apt-Get version of OpenSSL-devel? |
| 23:09.34 | initiate | celeron 2.4 |
| 23:09.47 | beardy | initiate: sorry, I didn't see it until I wrote that |
| 23:09.54 | abrotman | initiate: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:10.08 | initiate | thanks |
| 23:10.10 | initiate | brb |
| 23:10.26 | RCAM | Hmm. |
| 23:10.36 | granden | What is the command to make a new xorg conf file? |
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| 23:10.59 | RCAM | I can't seem to find the Developer package of OpenSSL via Apt-get... Anybody see it? |
| 23:11.06 | js_ | libssl-dev |
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| 23:11.30 | abrotman | !maint libssl |
| 23:11.31 | abrotman | bah |
| 23:11.35 | RCAM | js_ TY. |
| 23:11.42 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 23:11.45 | lobomufas | hi |
| 23:11.46 | abrotman | i thought he wanted the developer :) |
| 23:11.51 | PissedTrixBunny | abrotman, I see. I checked in the /etc/passwd,it seems that only users with ending "/bin/bash" works.... can you explain to me what's going on? how do I add /bin/bash to the end and make it work.... can I edit it by hand? |
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| 23:12.11 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: what is the user's shell ? |
| 23:12.25 | PissedTrixBunny | abrotman, it should be bash |
| 23:12.30 | abrotman | what is it now ? |
| 23:12.50 | PissedTrixBunny | nothing |
| 23:12.52 | s_ward | granden: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg unless you edited your config file |
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| 23:12.55 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: that's bad :) |
| 23:13.10 | shimano55 | Question, I had Debian installed on one of my partitions, and then I installed WINDOWSXP on the other half of my harddrive. Now I can't get GRUB to come up. Instead the computer just boots to WindowsXP. Can someone help plz? |
| 23:13.13 | PissedTrixBunny | can I edit /etc/passwd manually? |
| 23:13.16 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: should be the last section in the passwd |
| 23:13.18 | abrotman | use vipw |
| 23:13.31 | abrotman | shimano55: use a grub floppy |
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| 23:13.47 | shimano55 | abrotman, How do I make one of those? |
| 23:13.53 | abrotman | shimano55: you download it |
| 23:14.03 | shimano55 | From where? |
| 23:14.10 | litage | i was given internal and external dimensions for a company's rack cabinet. i assume that the dimensions of the rack servers i buy should be less than or equal to the cabinet's internal dimensions? |
| 23:14.28 | abrotman | !grub floppy image is ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ |
| 23:14.29 | beardy | shimano55: Google is your friend. |
| 23:14.29 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
| 23:14.35 | PissedTrixBunny | abrotman, can I just add /bin/ash to the end of each user by hand? why did it not do it automatically? |
| 23:14.46 | barry | I want sane and quiteinsane to be able to access my scanner, especially using the gimp plugin |
| 23:14.51 | shimano55 | hehe, thanks |
| 23:14.52 | abrotman | a readme in that dir wuldn't hurt |
| 23:14.54 | spf | while trying to use libcrypto, I get the following error: "error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14" |
| 23:14.56 | granden | s_ward: I dont have any config file right now |
| 23:14.59 | websdale | PissedTrixBunny: wouldn't usermod -s work or have I missed something ? |
| 23:15.05 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: you didn't specify one when you made the users |
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| 23:15.12 | shimano55 | join #mozilla |
| 23:15.17 | shimano55 | oops..lol |
| 23:15.18 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: use adduser next time |
| 23:15.27 | PissedTrixBunny | abrotman, thank you |
| 23:16.01 | RCAM | What is perl-CPAN? I have an application that requires it. |
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| 23:16.18 | s_ward | granden: try 'touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum ; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' as root |
| 23:16.22 | abrotman | !cpan |
| 23:16.22 | dpkg | cpan is probably the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network at http://www.perl.com/CPAN/, or perl -MCPAN -eshell, or it's probably better to use dh-make-perl --cpan |
| 23:16.45 | abrotman | PissedTrixBunny: you do realize ftp is insecure .. right ? |
| 23:16.58 | shimano55 | brb |
| 23:17.02 | PissedTrixBunny | abrotman, I know. |
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| 23:17.26 | abrotman | dli: i get a whole lot of ffmpeg warning: cannot decode one frame (5945 bytes) |
| 23:17.35 | s_ward | eewwww |
| 23:17.36 | barry | how do I change the permissions to my scanner? |
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| 23:17.49 | barry | it's only accesible from root |
| 23:17.49 | abrotman | barry: what group owns the scanner ? |
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| 23:17.58 | barry | abrotman: root |
| 23:17.58 | ryan- | how do you null route a network in linux? |
| 23:17.58 | abrotman | barry: what is the device ? |
| 23:18.08 | beardy | barry: Make your user part of the group that owns it. |
| 23:18.16 | barry | abrotman: it's a USB |
| 23:18.23 | dli | abrotman, maybe I should try some divx player? |
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| 23:18.25 | abrotman | barry: what is the device in /dev/ that it uses |
| 23:18.30 | abrotman | dli: it's possible .. |
| 23:18.41 | abrotman | dli: though i'd have thought the w32codecs would work |
| 23:19.25 | barry | abrotman: I do not know |
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| 23:19.32 | dli | abrotman, I have w32codecs |
| 23:19.58 | abrotman | barry: you have to find that out first |
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| 23:20.11 | abrotman | dli: so do i :) |
| 23:20.12 | s_ward | dli: I don't know if it has already been suggested (lastlog didn't hit), have you tried mplayer? /msg dpkg marillat |
| 23:20.17 | barry | abrotman: lsusb lists it as Bus 001 Device 005 |
| 23:20.25 | abrotman | barry: check dmesg .. it might help |
| 23:20.31 | abrotman | barry: how do you use it as root ? |
| 23:20.41 | barry | abrotman: using sane |
| 23:20.51 | abrotman | barry: and which device does sane use ? |
| 23:20.54 | barry | abrotman: or kooka |
| 23:21.00 | abrotman | kooka sounds kookie :) |
| 23:21.09 | eeEE | does this look like a compromise?: /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-0 it is using 99% CPU |
| 23:21.18 | abrotman | or a 386 |
| 23:21.34 | barry | abrotman: plustek:libusb:001:005 |
| 23:21.51 | abrotman | !sane |
| 23:21.51 | dpkg | Scanner Access Now Easy makes scanning...easy, or http://www.sane-project.org/ |
| 23:21.53 | abrotman | nice |
| 23:22.03 | abrotman | barry: that's it ? and it only works as root ? |
| 23:22.26 | barry | abrotman: quiteinsane works under suid |
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| 23:22.47 | abrotman | barry: tail -f dmesg .. then unplug/replug .. any hints ? |
| 23:22.53 | abrotman | while the scanner is on i mean |
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| 23:24.41 | barry | tail -f dmesg gives error messages |
| 23:24.51 | abrotman | error messages! |
| 23:25.00 | barry | tail: cannot open `dmesg' for reading: No such file or directory |
| 23:25.00 | barry | tail: no files remaining |
| 23:25.06 | abrotman | sorry |
| 23:25.10 | abrotman | tail -f /var/log/dmesg |
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| 23:26.24 | litage | i just pasted with ctrl+v and found that the clipboard contains something i didn't type, didn't highlight, and didn't copy. how can i investigate this? |
| 23:26.25 | abrotman | !moo |
| 23:26.25 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939, or cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
| 23:26.28 | barry | nothing shows up when I unplug it and plug it in |
| 23:26.37 | abrotman | litage: what did it paste? |
| 23:26.42 | abrotman | barry: scanner was on ? |
| 23:26.54 | litage | abrotman: the clipboard contained "dTrixBunny: you do realize ftp is insecu" |
| 23:27.06 | barry | abrotman: it doesn't have an on button |
| 23:27.14 | abrotman | litage: perhaps you inadvertently highlighted .. i said that a few minutes ago |
| 23:27.22 | abrotman | barry: how do you turn it off ? |
| 23:27.37 | barry | abrotman: unplug it |
| 23:27.42 | abrotman | wow ...ok |
| 23:27.48 | s_ward | ick |
| 23:27.51 | litage | abrotman: ah you did =P hahah thanks for alleviating that |
| 23:27.56 | barry | abrotman: it's a USB scanner...it gets power from USB |
| 23:28.00 | abrotman | let's all band together and waste power! |
| 23:28.38 | sussudio | yeah... it gets a max of 500mw from your usb, IF you use it directly on your PC or a POWERED hub. |
| 23:29.04 | abrotman | barry: check /proc/bus/usb/001/005 ... |
| 23:29.28 | abrotman | barry: try reading this http://www.sane-project.org/README.linux |
| 23:29.46 | barry | barry: it does not exist |
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| 23:30.10 | spf | how can I see what packages a program needs |
| 23:30.13 | abrotman | barry: read that doc .. see if it makes sense |
| 23:30.21 | abrotman | spf: apt-cache depends <package> |
| 23:30.25 | barry | abrotman: whoops...it moved to 009 |
| 23:30.28 | spf | thx |
| 23:30.45 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:30.58 | abrotman | barry: read that doc .. it may explain it all |
| 23:31.00 | eeEE | anyone know what net-pf-0 is? |
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| 23:31.09 | axl_ | who wants to help me |
| 23:31.11 | eeEE | it is a module. |
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| 23:31.15 | abrotman | !ask |
| 23:31.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 23:31.23 | abrotman | eeEE: packet filter module |
| 23:31.51 | abrotman | eeEE: just a guess though |
| 23:32.29 | axl_ | Ok first of all....when I switch to 1024x768 @ 75hz....the screen gets really big and some parts are cut off |
| 23:32.42 | eeEE | abrotman: i think this machine may be compromised, the proc /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-0 is using 99% CPU |
| 23:32.43 | spf | hmm, both wget and ssh aren't working, have differend dependencies but give the same errors: "error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14" |
| 23:32.44 | axl_ | and when I got to the cutoff section the screen scrolls |
| 23:33.22 | spf | do I have to reload the libs? |
| 23:33.33 | abrotman | !find libcrypto.so.0.9.7 sid |
| 23:33.41 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libcrypto.so.0.9.7' (1): (/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7, /usr/lib/i486/libcrypto.so.0.9.7, /usr/lib/i586/libcrypto.so.0.9.7) in libs/libssl0.9.7. |
| 23:34.01 | abrotman | axl_: does your monitor support 1024? |
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| 23:34.29 | axl_ | yes in windows it works...and it works in kde @ 60 |
| 23:34.35 | tactless | I'm looking for a command that works just like sort, except it shuffles. |
| 23:34.46 | tactless | I've tried bogosort -n, and I'm not happy with it. Any other recommendations? |
| 23:35.16 | abrotman | wtf does kde have to do with it |
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| 23:35.51 | axl_ | because thats desktop enviroment i'm using :S |
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| 23:35.57 | spf | abrotman: do I have to restart libcrypto or? and how? |
| 23:36.02 | abrotman | restart ? |
| 23:36.07 | Rawplayer | :P |
| 23:36.11 | abrotman | axl_: did you try adjusting your monitor ? |
| 23:36.18 | axl_ | yes |
| 23:36.23 | yoo | Where can i download the dvdrecord-patch for cdrtools ? |
| 23:36.48 | spf | well, because you were using sid |
| 23:36.48 | abrotman | axl_: uname -a .. dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:36.58 | abrotman | i'm not |
| 23:37.07 | abrotman | spf: does it install ? |
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| 23:37.24 | dm1tri | manos |
| 23:37.24 | spf | yes, I reinstalled it multiple times |
| 23:37.29 | dm1tri | ops |
| 23:37.30 | abrotman | !pt |
| 23:37.30 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 23:37.34 | xoz | tactless: make a c/c++ program that uses gsl random number gen. read all the file and store each line in array of array of chars/strings. shuffle the line index |
| 23:37.37 | abrotman | spf: you're on sid ? |
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| 23:37.58 | spf | I only know sid as in session ID |
| 23:38.06 | axl_ | abrotman : what was that supposed to do |
| 23:38.14 | axl_ | do you want me to post the output/ |
| 23:38.26 | abrotman | spf: are you using unstable ? |
| 23:38.31 | spf | yes |
| 23:38.42 | abrotman | that's sid |
| 23:38.43 | abrotman | !sid |
| 23:38.43 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 23:38.48 | abrotman | spf: check the bts |
| 23:38.49 | abrotman | !bts |
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| 23:38.49 | dpkg | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 23:39.37 | jeffopi | I'm trying to compile Gaim but it says I don't have Glib > 2. I do have Glib > 2. Also, anything I print from KDE prints in all red. |
| 23:39.45 | abrotman | jeffopi: use the -dev packages |
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| 23:40.10 | abrotman | as in .. libglib2.0-dev |
| 23:40.18 | axl_ | uname -a........Linux mynixbox 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Thu May 19 17:53:30 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:41.02 | stew | jeffopi: why are you trying to compile gaim? |
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| 23:41.24 | stew | jeffopi: are you trying to compile the upstream source or the debian package? |
| 23:41.33 | stew | jeffopi: did you apt-get build-dep gaim? |
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| 23:42.05 | abrotman | !drxx axl_ |
| 23:42.05 | dpkg | axl_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 23:42.15 | initiate | hi again |
| 23:42.18 | nite613 | Does the resolver library somehow cache the nameserver settings? I have 192.168.2.1 (my DNS forwarder) as the only entry in resolv.conf..... `host google.com` fails, but `host google.com 192.168.2.1` works immediately |
| 23:42.28 | initiate | sorry,had to do some work in the house |
| 23:42.43 | mne | hi there ! I'm just trying to get the content of 2 PS files on one PS page. is there a tool that can do this without quality loss ? I'm planning to print PCB layouts on a presentation foil |
| 23:43.05 | initiate | abrotman, after dling and installing kernel-image-2.6-686 it's still not working :/ |
| 23:43.22 | abrotman | initiate: you need to google and find out which driver your card needs |
| 23:43.24 | abrotman | your sound needs ... |
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| 23:43.31 | abrotman | initiate: also .. install alsa |
| 23:43.42 | initiate | apt-get install alsa ? |
| 23:43.46 | odiv | hello. i get X Error of failed request: BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)..... even after ssh -Y |
| 23:43.47 | Wyzard | mne: There are several tools for that |
| 23:44.00 | stew | mne: in general ps is vector based and therefore should scale well |
| 23:44.04 | abrotman | !alsa |
| 23:44.08 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 23:44.10 | mne | Wyzard, can you name one ? |
| 23:44.15 | SDFH_Linux | any word on when kernel 2.6.12? |
| 23:44.18 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 23:44.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
| 23:44.21 | Wyzard | mne: printing two "pages" side-by-side on a single sheet of paper held landscape-wise |
| 23:44.37 | mne | stew, I tried it with GIMP. the output is not what I want. |
| 23:44.44 | odiv | .........when dragndroping from desktop |
| 23:44.45 | cuqui | any one knows how to solve [fglrx:firegl_init] *ERROR* Device not found! ?? |
| 23:44.52 | dli | any package to do mechanic drawings? |
| 23:45.01 | s_ward | SDFH_Linux: What do you mean? |
| 23:45.01 | Wyzard | mne: apt-cache show psutils |
| 23:45.03 | stew | mne: ghostscript maybe? |
| 23:45.15 | SDFH_Linux | when it will be available on the deb repos |
| 23:45.18 | stew | mne: (i'm not sure) |
| 23:45.21 | mne | Wyzard, that's not what I want, the size the PCB layout should not change. I'll have a look at the psutils ;) |
| 23:45.27 | Wyzard | SDFH_Linux: 2.6.12 has been in unstable for weeks |
| 23:45.30 | s_ward | SDFH_Linux: It already is for Sid, it won't be for Sarge |
| 23:45.42 | SDFH_Linux | its been in unstable |
| 23:45.43 | SDFH_Linux | ? |
| 23:45.52 | SDFH_Linux | i must be missing a a repos |
| 23:45.52 | s_ward | !unstable |
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| 23:45.52 | dpkg | unstable is probably the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid |
| 23:45.58 | Wyzard | SDFH_Linux: linux-source-2.6.12 |
| 23:45.58 | mne | stew, I'll have a look. I used ghostview (GV), but it does not seem tto offer such functionality. |
| 23:46.06 | Wyzard | SDFH_Linux: It's not called kernel-source anymore |
| 23:46.07 | mne | thanks for the tips ! |
| 23:46.09 | LaidBack_01 | well... screw it then... gentoo doens't work, debian can't do it... I guess i'll load redhat just so I can get a packaged system to run mysql 4.1.x and php5 and have them cooperate. |
| 23:46.12 | SDFH_Linux | let me look wizard again |
| 23:46.15 | LaidBack_01 | so freaking stupid. |
| 23:46.17 | stew | mne: gv is the view only counterpart of gs iirc |
| 23:46.30 | LaidBack_01 | I can do it by hand.. but the two primary distros that work well can't. |
| 23:46.33 | LaidBack_01 | what gives... |
| 23:46.35 | s_ward | oh yeah, there is that (s/kernel/linux/).. I forgot :) |
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| 23:47.03 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: I didn't see your original question, only your complaint just now... PHP5 and MySQL don't interoperate? |
| 23:47.26 | mne | stew, I'll have a look at the other GS tools, thank you |
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| 23:47.37 | abrotman | Wyzard: php5 seems to depend on mysql4 :) |
| 23:47.38 | RvGaTe | is there a way to view the uptime in minutes without using the uptime command, becouse that gives me some random string that i cant perfectly use for coding... |
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| 23:47.45 | abrotman | shit .. i'm supposed to be eating |
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| 23:47.51 | initiate | !alsa one-liner |
| 23:47.51 | dpkg | well, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
| 23:47.54 | jkaufman | so go eat :P |
| 23:47.57 | LaidBack_01 | no, not correctly. I have the simple request of getting phpmyadmin to run on top of php5/mysql. but it wont authenticate with the libmysqlclient14 |
| 23:47.58 | Wyzard | mne: GhostScript is an interpreter... it doesn't really have anything to do with altering PostScript programs, just executing them to produce output |
| 23:47.58 | initiate | ah |
| 23:48.11 | SDFH_Linux | how about the kernel-image of 2.6.12? |
| 23:48.18 | LaidBack_01 | it needs libmysqlclient12 and that's not able to work with mysql 4.1 |
| 23:48.20 | LaidBack_01 | or 5.0 |
| 23:48.27 | Wyzard | SDFH_Linux: You mean linux-image? |
| 23:48.31 | Biogas | Can anyone assist me in making a directory like to another, like for example on some webservers "www" and "Public_html" goto the same thing |
| 23:48.35 | mne | Wyzard, so all the tools are in the pstools distrubution, right ? |
| 23:48.36 | Biogas | link* |
| 23:48.40 | initiate | afk |
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| 23:48.43 | initiate | thanks abrotman |
| 23:48.54 | SDFH_Linux | i didnt know they changed the names of all of this |
| 23:48.55 | jkaufman | Biogas: ln |
| 23:48.57 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: Newer MySQL servers don't support the older protocol versions for backward compatibility? |
| 23:49.02 | abrotman | initiate: it worked ? |
| 23:49.25 | mne | Wyzard, aehrm, psutils ... |
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| 23:49.41 | initiate | i`m going to try it now |
| 23:49.51 | initiate | i have to logoff,login as root |
| 23:49.57 | LaidBack_01 | Wyzard, well they do, but it breaks the new stuff - SO, if, like us, you've already got a bunch of code that depends on the way mysql 4.1/5.0 works, you can't use that backward compatability fix.... it screws up new code. |
| 23:50.00 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 23:50.03 | spf | abrotman: I've read the bugsite, it's a pretty new bug. Tried the patch, didn't work |
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| 23:50.08 | abrotman | initiate: you know about su right ? |
| 23:50.15 | abrotman | spf: kill the maintainer! |
| 23:50.19 | initiate | no |
| 23:50.23 | abrotman | !su |
| 23:50.23 | dpkg | Password: |
| 23:50.25 | spf | how? |
| 23:50.26 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 23:50.26 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
| 23:50.32 | abrotman | !maint libssl |
| 23:50.34 | odiv | is there someone to give a hint about my X Error of failed request: BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)....when dragndropping something from desktop, even after ssh -Y. googled without luck. please |
| 23:50.34 | abrotman | or whatever |
| 23:50.47 | abrotman | spf: do you have a lnk to the bug ? |
| 23:50.49 | abrotman | link even |
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| 23:51.00 | spf | yea |
| 23:51.01 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: So your code depends on 4.1 features that require the new protocol, and your problem is that there's no php5-mysql package for that |
| 23:51.03 | abrotman | initiate: in a terminal .. type .. su .. then enter root's password .. then install alsa |
| 23:51.04 | initiate | abrotman, i saw 'su' while reading hwo to install xchat |
| 23:51.14 | initiate | ah k |
| 23:51.19 | spf | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321721 |
| 23:51.33 | Biogas | :-/ ln: `linktohlds': hard link not allowed for directory |
| 23:51.37 | initiate | brb |
| 23:51.41 | Biogas | I don't have to be a superuser, do I? |
| 23:51.57 | abrotman | ok |
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| 23:52.07 | Biogas | the directory is chowned to my user though, so bleh |
| 23:52.14 | s_ward | Biogas: try to create a symbolic link: ln -s |
| 23:52.26 | abrotman | spf: thanks |
| 23:52.33 | cuqui | someone have mobility radeon 9700se?? |
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| 23:52.55 | Wyzard | Biogas: Hardlinks aren't allowed for directories because a directory cycle could be created that way, which is a Bad Thing |
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| 23:53.00 | Wyzard | Biogas: Use symbolic links |
| 23:53.19 | Biogas | okay thanks, I'll try it |
| 23:53.23 | daedalus_ | ;) |
| 23:53.25 | LaidBack_01 | Wyzard, here's the thing - we have 8 gentoo servers, running different combos of tomcat/cfmx7/mysql5/apache2.0 So... I don't want any admin tools on those boxes... not web-based anyway. So, I'm building another box - well, gentoo has a different problem than you guys as far as the php5/mysql5 problem, but it amounts to the same thing - which is why I chose to use debian. |
| 23:53.36 | LaidBack_01 | but it looks like it's gonna be a by-hand deal no matter what. |
| 23:53.47 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: did you try .. eep . sid ? |
| 23:54.06 | LaidBack_01 | abrotman, yeah, i'm using sid only.. don't know what eep is... |
| 23:54.10 | LaidBack_01 | that more unstable than sid? |
| 23:54.11 | jkaufman | abrotman: what happened to you going to eat? |
| 23:54.23 | abrotman | jkaufman: i'm getting there! |
| 23:54.27 | abrotman | oven heating! |
| 23:54.31 | jkaufman | abrotman :P |
| 23:54.38 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: I checked, and it's not in sid either |
| 23:54.42 | abrotman | what's not ? |
| 23:54.47 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: PHP5 is a fairly new thing in Debian so I'm not very surprised |
| 23:54.48 | abrotman | php5? or mysql4.1 ? |
| 23:54.52 | abrotman | !info php5 sid |
| 23:54.58 | dpkg | php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.4-3 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
| 23:55.00 | abrotman | !dance |
| 23:55.16 | abrotman | !dance with me |
| 23:55.19 | abrotman | oh well |
| 23:55.25 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: There's mysql-server (which is 4.0) and mysql-server-4.1; there's php5-mysql, but no php5-mysql-4.1 |
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| 23:55.48 | LaidBack_01 | okay, well, I think i'll rip out all the stuff that debian put in then... what's the point of using the package manager now if I gotta go screw up the system? |
| 23:55.50 | abrotman | Wyzard: does php5-mysql depend on 4.0? |
| 23:56.04 | LaidBack_01 | might as well do mysql, php, and apache from source, eh? |
| 23:56.06 | abrotman | i wonder if he could build the source package |
| 23:56.16 | abrotman | !depends php5-mysql |
| 23:56.21 | dpkg | php5-mysql: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libmysqlclient12, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, phpapi-20041030, php5-common (= 5.0.4-3) |
| 23:56.26 | Wyzard | abrotman: It depends on libmysqlclient12, which is the 4.0 version |
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| 23:56.30 | abrotman | isn't libmysqlclient12 for 4.1? |
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| 23:56.31 | abrotman | oh .. ok |
| 23:56.35 | LaidBack_01 | that libemysqlclient2 is the problem |
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| 23:56.47 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: you might be able to hack the source package |
| 23:56.49 | LaidBack_01 | needs to be libmysqlclient14 |
| 23:56.54 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: other alternative .. .. ask the maint |
| 23:57.01 | abrotman | !maint php5-mysql |
| 23:57.07 | dpkg | php5-mysql: Debian PHP Maintainers <pkg-php-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
| 23:57.10 | abrotman | nice |
| 23:57.13 | LaidBack_01 | naw, they are busy, I'm not gonna bother them |
| 23:57.14 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: Don't complain about the package manager when you're running sid and trying to install something that's only recently been introduced to Debian in the first place :-) |
| 23:57.18 | s_ward | abrotman: there was something about that in DWN, the migration to MySQL 5 is possibly postponed |
| 23:57.20 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: and also .. file a damn bug |
| 23:57.28 | abrotman | s_ward: this isn't about mysql5 |
| 23:57.32 | s_ward | abrotman: it would remove the dependency on the library |
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| 23:57.51 | Biogas | Hmm, the ln created pinkish colored files, and they don't exist, so cd says |
| 23:57.55 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: But you could probably build a custom php5-mysql from its source package, and get a version that depends on libmysqlclient14 |
| 23:58.01 | LaidBack_01 | I'm not complaining about the pkg manager - just pissed cause both my liked distros seem behind the curve right now.... |
| 23:58.13 | Wyzard | Biogas: You've created a broken symlink... one whose target doesn't exist |
| 23:58.13 | LaidBack_01 | I'll just do it by hand an not use the pkg mgr is all I'm saying |
| 23:58.24 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: No, don't do it by hand if it's at all possible to avoid it |
| 23:58.27 | Biogas | hehe I'll try again |
| 23:58.46 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: You don't get automated upgrades or uninstall capability that way, for one thing |
| 23:58.55 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 23:59.04 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: i would certainly contact the package manager |
| 23:59.10 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: You can use that procedure to build a custom php5-mysql |
| 23:59.12 | LaidBack_01 | yes, I know, which is why I was strying to stay in the constructs of apt or dpkg |
| 23:59.14 | abrotman | LaidBack_01: what you're describing is a serious bug IMO |
| 23:59.28 | abrotman | why have php5 if you can't use it with mysql4.1 |
| 23:59.32 | Wyzard | LaidBack_01: If you have the 4.1 version of the mysql dev package installed, you'll get a dependency on the 4.1 client library |
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| 23:59.40 | abrotman | of course .. mysql is a PoS anyways .. but that's another conversation :) |
| 23:59.47 | LaidBack_01 | lol |
| 23:59.55 | axl_ | how do I get the new version of KDE |
| 23:59.56 | abrotman | !eat mysql |
| 23:59.58 | abrotman | !die |
| 23:59.58 | dpkg | I'll murder you abrotman! Slice you into bitsa and feed you to my children! |
