| 00:00.01 | dabaR | like now, for exanmple. I dont have the error, abrotman. do you know anything about that locales thing? |
| 00:00.05 | NLoRD | well all the files at this partition copied using root access |
| 00:00.05 | abrotman | dabaR: the error .. is it on ubuntu? |
| 00:00.13 | NLoRD | why 5% not used? |
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| 00:00.29 | abrotman | NLoRD: all ext* filesystems do it ... |
| 00:01.03 | abrotman | NLoRD: you'll be happy when / fills up and root can still log in because it reserved 5% |
| 00:01.09 | abrotman | dabaR: ? |
| 00:01.20 | dabaR | do you know what would cause it on ubuntu? |
| 00:01.32 | abrotman | dabaR: no .. i'm asking if the error is on ubuntu? |
| 00:01.36 | dabaR | ok, then, tell me about what could cause that error in debian. |
| 00:01.41 | abrotman | it's a yes/no question damn it |
| 00:01.42 | dabaR | :P |
| 00:01.54 | NLoRD | well I maybe they could give an option at mkfs.ext3 so if I will not usr the partiotion as /, I can use the 5% for my files |
| 00:01.58 | NLoRD | if I need the space |
| 00:02.00 | NLoRD | :E |
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| 00:02.04 | dabaR | ok, well, thanks. |
| 00:02.05 | pngwn | ` |
| 00:02.08 | abrotman | dabaR: vladuz976: i'm going to recommend you both go down the alphabet to #ubuntu .. they should know more |
| 00:02.18 | abrotman | NLoRD: man mkfs.ext2 |
| 00:02.21 | abrotman | NLoRD: man mkfs.ext3 |
| 00:02.23 | vladuz976 | abrotman, no luck there |
| 00:02.25 | dabaR | abrotman: thanks. |
| 00:02.52 | abrotman | vladuz976: i realize that .. but they should know more .. all the things i told you were compared to a sarge system .. which ubuntu is not |
| 00:03.11 | abrotman | vladuz976: and i've told you a lot of stuff :) |
| 00:03.13 | vladuz976 | abrotman, yeah, i'll try, thanks |
| 00:03.21 | abrotman | vladuz976: it's possible there was a package update today that killed it .. check thier BTS |
| 00:03.25 | Gathond | NLoRD: I believe a reason for the 5% is to allow the filesystem to avoid fragmentation, so therefore the performance comment above |
| 00:03.28 | Subvertir | macos on x86 owns you all |
| 00:03.31 | zero-1 | hello guys, Im still having same problem with quake 3 on debian 3.1 sarge it makes my xserver restarts, what can i do? |
| 00:03.37 | seb___ | how many emails for one domain go to another? ...mail server for new domain does NOT accept "relaying"!?!?!?! :( |
| 00:03.41 | abrotman | Subvertir: are you done? |
| 00:03.43 | NLoRD | well you are right |
| 00:03.45 | NLoRD | -m reserved-blocks-percentage |
| 00:03.45 | NLoRD | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.45 | NLoRD | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.54 | abrotman | NLoRD: don't paste in here :) |
| 00:04.03 | NLoRD | so if I set 0 at this flag I will use all my space |
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| 00:04.08 | nvz | I've got no chance of recovering files I mv from a vfat flash media to an ext3 then mv other files of the same name to the same location.. shouldnt have done that |
| 00:04.19 | abrotman | nvz: pretty much .. no |
| 00:04.48 | tech13 | what do i check if the 'debian menu' under the gnome applications menu is blank? (debian sarge) |
| 00:04.54 | NLoRD | but anyway why using root access it still lost the 5% |
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| 00:05.02 | NLoRD | It should use all space then |
| 00:05.12 | Subvertir | no, really, it does |
| 00:05.17 | abrotman | tech13: install menu |
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| 00:05.23 | Subvertir | netbsd ports works flawlessly on it |
| 00:05.24 | nvz | I overwritten good pics with shitty ones |
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| 00:05.32 | nvz | damn this camera :P |
| 00:05.39 | zero-1 | i have the right nvidia driver on it? and it leaves no errors what can i do? |
| 00:05.45 | tech13 | abrotman, ahhh, thank you. |
| 00:05.50 | NLoRD | maybe Gathond is right |
| 00:05.55 | abrotman | Subvertir: shut up |
| 00:06.00 | abrotman | Subvertir: stop trolling |
| 00:06.31 | nvz | thing is too I didnt notice it until like 10 minutes after I done it that I overwritten 4 files |
| 00:06.37 | abrotman | nvz: you're slow :) |
| 00:06.45 | Subvertir | abrotman, I'm not trolling =( |
| 00:06.47 | shingouz | nice. i wake up and get on the channel and we have a troll here waiting |
| 00:06.56 | abrotman | Subvertir: yes .. you are |
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| 00:07.00 | Subvertir | it's really, truly, seriously cool |
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| 00:07.22 | abrotman | Subvertir: this isn't #osx .. or #opendarwin .. you haven't said a damn thing relating to debian .. stop trolling |
| 00:07.22 | nvz | abrotman: I had thought it was a safe thing to do to keep mounting it and mv'ing them off there |
| 00:07.25 | nvz | abrotman: its not |
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| 00:07.30 | dabaR | can you set which editor is used for man? |
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| 00:07.41 | Gathond | dabaR: $PAGER is used |
| 00:07.47 | abrotman | dabaR: wrong channel .. you're using ubuntu |
| 00:07.51 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 00:07.54 | dabaR | abrotman: sometimes. |
| 00:07.58 | dabaR | mostly sarge, tho. |
| 00:08.06 | Jose`` | abrotman: I just found debian-accessibility mailing list. |
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| 00:08.15 | zero-1 | how can i be invited to teh quake channel |
| 00:08.25 | dabaR | default in grub is ubuntu atm, so that is the only reason I am in ubuntu raelly, when last night for some reason my compouter got rebooted |
| 00:08.38 | abrotman | Jose``: yeah .. she still didn't respond |
| 00:08.40 | tech13 | under debian woody i could get sound working, under debian sarge i can get anything. (yes i checked the 'mute') Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03) |
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| 00:08.47 | dvs | One troll goes, another shows themselves. |
| 00:08.54 | abrotman | !audigy |
| 00:08.54 | dpkg | i guess audigy is a fairly new series of soundcards from Creative, it is supposedly supported in the CVS version of the "emu10k1" drivers from opensource.creative.com, or http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=9091&group_id=44773, or use ALSA. ask me about it. |
| 00:09.02 | dabaR | I am gonna go to my sarge now, thanks for reminding me. |
| 00:09.05 | abrotman | !it |
| 00:09.05 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 00:09.37 | abrotman | !audigy =~ s/use ALSA. ask me about it./ask me about alsa/ |
| 00:09.38 | dpkg | OK, abrotman |
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| 00:09.58 | granden_ | When I trype startx I get /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 5: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory why? |
| 00:09.59 | tech13 | have emu10k1 in lsmod output. alsamixer works. i just haven't been able to get the a peep out of them. |
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| 00:10.21 | dave007 | Hi, anyone know were to download (apt-get) mplayer (along with codecs)? since marillat is no longer working |
| 00:10.22 | liable | tech13: you in audio group? |
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| 00:10.31 | Mxyzpltk | tech13: emu10k1 is OSS, snd_emu10k1 is alsa |
| 00:10.34 | abrotman | dave007: why isn't marillat working? .. people were using it an hour ago |
| 00:10.37 | tech13 | liable, yes |
| 00:10.45 | znx | granden_: Xorg |
| 00:10.48 | granden_ | Yes |
| 00:10.58 | znx | check your links then |
| 00:11.05 | tech13 | Mxyzpltk, sorry, i abbriviated too much, it is snd_emu10k1 |
| 00:11.08 | dave007 | abrotman, mmm doent work for me, could you show me the line in the sources.list?? maybe I got it wrong |
| 00:11.10 | granden_ | which links? |
| 00:11.15 | abrotman | !tell dave007 about marillat |
| 00:11.23 | dave007 | thanks |
| 00:11.23 | abrotman | !tell dave007 about mplayer |
| 00:11.23 | liable | !sound test |
| 00:11.25 | znx | granden_: Xorg -> X in /usr/bin |
| 00:11.26 | lobomufas | hi |
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| 00:11.56 | mookie | hi, where do I get gtk+-2.0? or greater. I'm trying to find a package with this, and no luck. |
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| 00:12.31 | liable | mookie: apt-cache search gtk |
| 00:12.37 | granden_ | znx Xorg -> X command not found |
| 00:12.44 | chrislightfoot | anyone here know about fontconfig? |
| 00:13.01 | dabaR | thats better. Sorry, abrotman, I hope you dont mind, I was actually wondering about changing it in sarge, cause I dont like more for that. |
| 00:13.09 | dabaR | so, Ill change that. |
| 00:13.32 | shingouz | chrislightfoot: yes, We are minor Gods here. just ask Us :p |
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| 00:13.48 | chrislightfoot | splendid |
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| 00:13.57 | chrislightfoot | there are a bunch of font aliases in /etc/X11/fonts/* |
| 00:13.59 | liable | hehe capitals and everything :) |
| 00:14.07 | shingouz | liable: of course |
| 00:14.11 | granden_ | znx the Xorg -> X gave me command not found |
| 00:14.11 | chrislightfoot | e.g. alias from 6x13 to -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 |
| 00:14.14 | lobomufas | gn, third attempt... fucking $TERM... |
| 00:14.15 | liable | shingouz: :) |
| 00:14.18 | chrislightfoot | how do i make fontconfig honour them? |
| 00:14.37 | znx | granden_: it would.. because its not a command.. man ln |
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| 00:15.15 | abrotman | dabaR: and you ahve that problem in sarge? |
| 00:15.22 | mookie | liable: thanks man |
| 00:15.23 | dabaR | not aproblem. |
| 00:15.35 | dabaR | I was asking about the change of the editor used for man. |
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| 00:15.45 | dabaR | which is more in sarge, if I am not wrong. |
| 00:15.57 | liable | install less |
| 00:16.01 | dabaR | or pager, it seems, not editor. I like vi better, maybe. |
| 00:16.09 | shingouz | chrislightfoot: /msg dpkg fonts |
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| 00:16.29 | dabaR | and I like the enter key. |
| 00:16.45 | shingouz | chrislightfoot: maybe you can find something in there. i hope... my Godlike powers are waning whenever fonts are mentioned |
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| 00:17.17 | dabaR | if I put export PAGER=vi into my /etc/bash.|_bashrc is that gonna work for man pages being shown with vi? |
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| 00:17.43 | dabaR | heh |
| 00:17.46 | dabaR | I shouold try |
| 00:17.55 | shingouz | dabaR: why would you like to have an editor show you the manpages is beyond me. install less and be done with it |
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| 00:18.16 | dabaR | shingouz: whats it do? |
| 00:18.24 | dabaR | do I have to hit enter to scroll down? |
| 00:18.31 | shingouz | dabaR: less is more |
| 00:18.41 | dabaR | does it exit with ZZ? |
| 00:18.50 | shingouz | no. with q |
| 00:19.13 | dabaR | I kinda like the ZZ and scrolling with arrow keys. does less at least scroll with the arrow keys? |
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| 00:19.19 | vladuz976 | dabaR, i tried to install locals-en_US that doesn't even work |
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| 00:19.47 | dabaR | vladuz976: ask me at #ubuntu...I dont really know tho... |
| 00:19.48 | shingouz | dabaR: i think it does scroll with the arrows, i have never tried (at least consciously) |
| 00:20.03 | dabaR | ok, well, Ill install and try, it removes more? |
| 00:20.05 | LuPuZ | Hella Debian'ers :P ... I need a little help here :( how do i look what hd is put in what folder? |
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| 00:20.23 | chrislightfoot | shingouz -- none of those links look very useful -- they're all either about fonts in general, or about making truetype fonts work |
| 00:20.23 | chrislightfoot | what i want is to make gtk2 applications see the X fonts properly, rather than having some wierd fontconfig-tinted view of the world... |
| 00:20.25 | [red-agent] | hi2all |
| 00:20.26 | shingouz | dabaR: i think so. i install less by default so i am not too sure about it |
| 00:20.39 | dondelelcaro | LuPuZ: cat /proc/mounts; or run mount; |
| 00:20.46 | LuPuZ | thx alot |
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| 00:21.38 | shingouz | chrislightfoot: looks like you have caught me with my god-powers at a level zero :( |
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| 00:21.52 | dabaR | wow, less does both |
| 00:22.01 | shingouz | dabaR: i told you , less is more |
| 00:22.05 | [red-agent] | where i can get msttcorefonts for Debian? |
| 00:22.17 | LuPuZ | dondelelcaro: need one more :P ... i'm supposed to have 2x250gb but can't figure out with your tip not i who installed.. it's the hoster company techs... just looking for the damn disc :P |
| 00:22.17 | shingouz | !tell [red-agent] about fonts |
| 00:22.42 | chrislightfoot | anyone have any fontconfig suggestions? |
| 00:22.50 | liable | [red-agent]: in non-free archive iirc |
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| 00:24.12 | LuPuZ | if i look in /proc/ide i see shortcuts to hda and hdc |
| 00:24.45 | dondelelcaro | LuPuZ: check dmesg to see what the drives are then. Generally /var/log/kern.log will have that information |
| 00:24.59 | dabaR | shingouz: you sure told me...:) I thought it was vi that was used in the other linux I use, cause of the ZZ and arrows, but it was the less thing I presume... |
| 00:25.01 | crn | i used foomatic-gui to make a queue to a remote smb printer, but test page doesn't print. |
| 00:25.27 | crn | does this take cups to work? |
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| 00:27.48 | lildude | my gui wont start x |
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| 00:28.06 | dvs | why? |
| 00:28.18 | lildude | dont know |
| 00:28.19 | liable | lildude: meh, you still trying to get it going? |
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| 00:28.35 | dvs | liable: Oh. I never would have thought of that ;-) |
| 00:28.55 | lildude | stil trying |
| 00:29.04 | crn | lildude, how do you get a gui without x |
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| 00:29.11 | lildude | any think remote would work |
| 00:29.23 | lildude | i have x installed |
| 00:29.28 | lildude | cant get it to start\ |
| 00:29.54 | liable | lildude: what exactly did you install, and whats the error. |
| 00:30.04 | lildude | ok il ge t error |
| 00:30.22 | liable | yep |
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| 00:30.48 | Sleeping | is it possible to tell ssh to use a certain port for certain hosts? |
| 00:30.54 | lildude | apt get install kde x window system installed |
| 00:31.16 | lildude | what do you want for errors? |
| 00:31.40 | dvs | lildude: What's in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log for starters |
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| 00:31.50 | liable | lildude: look in /var/log/xfree86.log and look for EE |
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| 00:32.02 | lildude | ok il do that |
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| 00:32.25 | sneeezy | exit |
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| 00:32.52 | Sleeping | people should get stickers for doing that |
| 00:33.25 | dabaR | I like stickers. |
| 00:33.31 | Sleeping | me too :) |
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| 00:33.48 | madreykin | <madreykin> is there a channel for general computer questions? |
| 00:33.49 | madreykin | <reiki> teres |
| 00:33.53 | madreykin | Oops, sorry. |
| 00:35.00 | dabaR | Sleeping: I dont know about your question, but I see there is a sshd_config man entry. |
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| 00:35.21 | Debird | madreykin: what kind of questions? Linux ones? |
| 00:35.27 | lildude | liablle typed that comand not found |
| 00:35.58 | liable | what command? I didnt give you a command! |
| 00:36.29 | lildude | that thing t type in |
| 00:36.34 | lildude | here is some error |
| 00:36.34 | liable | lildude: install less. |
| 00:36.44 | lildude | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.04 | lildude | 104 conection reset bye peer |
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| 00:37.42 | lildude | any ideas |
| 00:37.59 | lildude | going to get out hammer and smash cranky box |
| 00:38.14 | crn | Sleeping, i think sshd listens on a port of your choice. You can confifigure the ssh_ config with different options per host. |
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| 00:38.37 | lildude | can some one remote linux? |
| 00:38.38 | liable | lildude: less /var/log/XFree86.0.log and look for EE |
| 00:38.48 | lildude | ok |
| 00:39.03 | beardy | lildude: You search in less by typing a / |
| 00:39.09 | liable | lildude: dont ever ask people on irc to remotely fix your box. Its stupid. |
| 00:39.28 | liable | lildude: you have no idea what they could do. |
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| 00:39.59 | buu | lildude: Dude, I'll fix it, send me your username/password |
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| 00:40.54 | crn | liable, i've never seen anything malicious. There are too many people watching. |
| 00:41.25 | liable | crn: who is watching if he gives me a shell account? |
| 00:41.27 | beardy | crn: Watching, inside your box? |
| 00:41.28 | granden | when I try to make MPlayer I get some error about libavcodec which lib shall I install for that |
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| 00:42.03 | lildude | liable did you get that |
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| 00:42.57 | vladuz976 | abrotman, you wanna know what fixed it? |
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| 00:43.12 | liable | lildude: you have no idea who I am, you just gave me root access to your box. (if you had sshd installed) |
| 00:43.23 | lildude | ok |
| 00:43.25 | dvs | vladuz976: A sledgehammer? |
| 00:43.28 | lildude | yikes |
| 00:43.35 | vladuz976 | dvs, how do you know? |
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| 00:43.57 | J30 | hi everyone |
| 00:44.00 | dvs | vladuz976: lucky guess |
| 00:44.05 | lildude | at this point liable it would not matter |
| 00:44.08 | lildude | it broken |
| 00:44.18 | vladuz976 | ok just for the hell of it check the last two pastes form seveas and vladuz976 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1180 |
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| 00:45.09 | beardy | lildude: It always matters. Never give anyone you don't know very well, and trust, access to your box. |
| 00:45.21 | J30 | i have a litle question about apt-get: how can i search for a package if am not sure about the name i mean a package wich name contains a ceratain word i didn't find anything in the man page of apt-get |
| 00:45.23 | lildude | i guess soo |
| 00:45.33 | dvs | J30: apt-cache search |
| 00:45.46 | J30 | k thx a llot dvs |
| 00:45.54 | dvs | nooo prooblem |
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| 00:46.50 | ragawu | hi there, I'm having problems burning the netinst unstable images |
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| 00:47.04 | rabies | hey |
| 00:47.04 | ragawu | burn goes thru fine, but nothing is booting at startup, it's as if the boot sector isnt ther |
| 00:47.13 | rabies | is there any way to prevent "ls" from displaying anything but files? |
| 00:47.20 | ragawu | downloaded three different iso's now |
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| 00:47.23 | rabies | too many directories and i gotta sort through this mess o_O |
| 00:47.24 | ragawu | none working |
| 00:47.34 | dvs | ragawu: did you check the md5 sums? |
| 00:47.37 | ragawu | yes |
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| 00:47.49 | ragawu | tried burning them in nero |
| 00:47.52 | ragawu | on windows |
| 00:48.09 | ragawu | described them as "foreign images" |
| 00:48.16 | ragawu | don't know if thats relevant |
| 00:48.34 | Debird | rabies: run ls by itself |
| 00:48.42 | rixth | God dammit. This is why I hate apt (well, sometimes). I can't extract an acrhive because I don't have bzip installed. I do an apt-cache seach bzip so I apt-get install bzip2 (the only real possibility) and I still get the error. |
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| 00:49.07 | rabies | Debird: um...it shows directories... |
| 00:49.34 | crn | liable, you are my best argument that we are mosly honest |
| 00:49.58 | dvs | crn: speak for yourself >-) |
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| 00:50.33 | rixth | Can't even extract a .tbz. Geez. |
| 00:50.34 | crn | ok i give up. all liars pleas declair yourselves |
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| 00:50.56 | dabaR | I am a liar. |
| 00:51.07 | dvs | crn: Does the IRS count? |
| 00:51.13 | ragawu | so theres no idea why the discs anint booting? |
| 00:51.18 | ragawu | aint |
| 00:51.28 | rixth | Debian doesn't have a library for extracting bzip archives. How fucking great is that? |
| 00:51.32 | dvs | ragawu: Sorry, I don't use Nero |
| 00:51.40 | Debird | rabies: since directories are files themselves I do not think there is a way to exclude dirs |
| 00:51.44 | Tennessee | Hi all. I'm running Ubuntu. What are people's opinions about the easiest mail server to install and configure? I would prefer to use IMAP. |
| 00:51.52 | crn | dvs, if you are rich and republican |
| 00:51.54 | rixth | Tennessee, #ubuntu |
| 00:51.59 | dvs | ha! |
| 00:52.04 | granden | when I try to install libavcodec-dev I get "libavcodec-dev: Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:52.04 | granden | E: Broken packages" what shall I do? ( I use stable ) |
| 00:52.04 | rixth | Tennessee, this is #debian |
| 00:52.28 | Tennessee | rixth: So noted. Didn't realise there was a #ubuntu. |
| 00:52.34 | ragawu | thanks anyways |
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| 00:55.24 | Debird | ragawu: what exactly is going wrong with the burning? |
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| 00:55.47 | Debird | 2late |
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| 00:56.30 | Debird | has anyone seen a current sarge kernel howto yet? |
| 00:57.30 | Debird | (its not for me.... its for a friend.... ;)) |
| 00:57.46 | cockroach | just to make sure i got it right: there is no way to shrink an XFS partition, right? |
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| 01:01.19 | Navop | how hard is it to setup a server contianing the following ....webserver, mail server, dns, fp. pop3/imap..for someone wit hsome knowldge of linux |
| 01:01.34 | Navop | fp=ftp |
| 01:01.47 | dvs | Navop: Installing is easy. Configuring is hard. |
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| 01:02.12 | crn | Navop, listen to dvs |
| 01:03.19 | Navop | cause i've been trying to setup one for about 2 weeks now using Suse...doing must of the steps ..need a little help hear and thier... |
| 01:03.37 | mtnman | dvs: configuring is easy. configuring well is hard. |
| 01:03.49 | dvs | huh? |
| 01:03.51 | crn | i have a lot of experience using redhat. i am having trouble configuring debian |
| 01:04.07 | deadcat | crn: redhat or fedora? |
| 01:04.34 | crn | deadcat, redhat. i skipped fedora. |
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| 01:04.42 | deadcat | ah |
| 01:04.46 | Mrdini | hmmm...... working on a script that involves creating user accounts (no shell access, only FTP).....however, /home/username doesn't seem to be getting created any more (it was working a sec ago).... any idea where to start looking i.e. is there a logfile for this? |
| 01:04.55 | granden | Are there any backport for LFTP from unstable to stable? |
| 01:04.56 | Navop | and if i had a little help i don't mind redoing tmy hdd's |
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| 01:05.29 | crn | deadcat, i reconfigured rh9 to use apt-get, and at last switched |
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| 01:05.54 | deadcat | crn: how is that experience. no offence |
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| 01:06.13 | crn | deadcat, it beats the alternitive |
| 01:06.14 | deadcat | crn: you jsut rpm -i http://blah.apt-get.rpm |
| 01:06.19 | [Outlaw] | Hey guys, how would I find the debian package that contains the 'infernal' font? |
| 01:06.34 | dabaR | Navop: so you would like to install debian, and set up those servers? |
| 01:06.42 | crn | deadcat, apt-cache pkgnames foo |
| 01:07.02 | Navop | dabaR: yes i would don't mind doing the switch... |
| 01:07.14 | deadcat | crn: thats not how apt-cache work |
| 01:07.18 | Navop | just like i said might need a bit of guidance.. |
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| 01:07.59 | dabaR | Navop: well, do it. I mean, I have ip forwarding, apache, proftpd and sshd installed in like, 3 minutes, the other ones you said could be a little harder to configure, but this channel is full of knowledge on stuff like that. |
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| 01:08.18 | crn | deadcat, right. |
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| 01:08.35 | Debird | crn: try Gentoo... it will teach you much about the guts of installing and configuring Linux. The current documentation will guide you explicitly through the whole process. Then when you tire of the server maintentance, come on over to Debian |
| 01:08.43 | dabaR | Navop: and keep in mind I dont use any firewalls or routers, and use default installs for ftp and ssh, and httpd. |
| 01:08.43 | [Outlaw] | Guys? Anyone know where the "infernal" font is? |
| 01:09.02 | deadcat | Debird: i read that it teachs you to follow instructions. |
| 01:09.03 | crn | Debird, i'm running debian now |
| 01:09.27 | dvs | and be very, very, patient |
| 01:09.48 | Debird | deadcat: yep. i found it to be very instructive on Linux in general |
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| 01:10.07 | crn | Debird, almost everything is going. but not the smb printer from debian to my rh smb |
| 01:10.12 | Alcor | Does someone have a freeradius package for debian stable that include TLS ? |
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| 01:10.52 | Navop | dabar, im behind a smc SMCBR18VPN |
| 01:10.53 | Navop | Barricade™ Plus Broadband Firewall Router |
| 01:10.53 | Navop | Broadband VPN Router with Integrated 8-port Switch |
| 01:11.09 | dabaR | good luck. |
| 01:11.22 | Navop | lo |
| 01:11.25 | Navop | lol |
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| 01:11.56 | imango | hi is there any one who could telll me where to go to do a linux course in LoNdOn NOT VERY EXPENSSIVE? |
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| 01:12.42 | deadcat | imango: no community college? stuff like that? cheap but you dont learn much |
| 01:13.00 | Debird | crn: take a break, think about something else for a few minutes, then come back and check the basics like permissions, smb.conf settings, logins, etc. I bet you will find problem in no time. |
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| 01:14.15 | imango | deadcat : where would you suggest I could go to learn? |
| 01:14.30 | Mrdini | hmmm...... working on a script that involves creating user accounts (no shell access, only FTP).....however, /home/username doesn't seem to be getting created any more (it was working a sec ago).... any idea where to start looking i.e. is there a logfile for this? (looked in /var/log/ & can't seem to find anything relevant) |
| 01:14.42 | Mrdini | imango, checked City Lit? |
| 01:15.09 | Debird | imango: the best cheapest most effective real-world way to learn is www. |
| 01:16.50 | deadcat | imango: i learned unix and little linux from community college and linux by using it and online |
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| 01:17.33 | imango | deadcat: Online , do you mean on irc and www? |
| 01:17.50 | deadcat | imango: i recomment learning some unix basic commands then go from there. because alot of people come here aska bout kernel but they dont even know some basic commands like system perms |
| 01:17.56 | crn | Debird, you're right. I need to review the whole setup. I've been making a lot of small adjustments just to get the debian environment to look like what i'm used to. i'll get it working tomorrow. |
| 01:18.04 | imango | Mrdini:what do you mean by City Lit |
| 01:18.06 | imango | ?? |
| 01:18.08 | deadcat | imango: irc and www. irc is when i want a q answered NOW NOW NOW (= |
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| 01:18.38 | Mrdini | imago, London, UK or London, ONT? |
| 01:19.07 | imango | Mrdini: London UK |
| 01:19.07 | Debird | crn: I am sure you'll figure it out too! :) |
| 01:19.29 | Mrdini | imango, & you don't know City Lit? ....... |
| 01:19.30 | Debird | sounds like you are very close |
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| 01:19.41 | imango | dead cat: what is online than...do you mean course online ..if yes which oncce?\ |
| 01:19.45 | aiyaiyairc | newb to debian, recommended irc client? |
| 01:19.49 | Debird | a missing . or something like that somewhere probably. |
| 01:20.12 | deadcat | aiyaiyairc: how about the 1 you using ? |
| 01:20.16 | shingouz | aiyaiyairc: cli or gui? |
| 01:20.20 | aiyaiyairc | ....i'm on a windows box |
| 01:20.25 | aiyaiyairc | ty |
| 01:20.40 | ke6isf | aiyaiyairc: xchat. |
| 01:20.47 | imango | Mrdini : No where is City Lit? I only been in Lonon for 6 months..guide me please.. |
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| 01:20.55 | aiyaiyairc | ty :) will check 'em out ke6isf and shingouz |
| 01:20.57 | shingouz | aiyaiyairc: bitchx, irssi |
| 01:21.05 | Mrdini | http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=city+lit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 01:21.10 | aiyaiyairc | ahhhhh IRSSI...that's the one my brain remembers someone sayin! |
| 01:21.26 | Debird | imango: do you know DOS? |
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| 01:23.02 | imango | I am not totaly new.... I know much about dos, I also studies at Sydney college for the LPI but did not finsh....I am familiar with command line in Linux and Solaris |
| 01:23.06 | [Outlaw] | I'll try asking again... does anyone know how to search all of the available debian packages to find out where a font is? In this case, it's "infernal," one I like using for xmms |
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| 01:23.36 | cwood | Outlaw: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents may assist you |
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| 01:24.31 | imango | Debird: I am not totaly new.... I know much about dos, I also studies at Sydney college for the LPI but did not finsh....I am familiar with command line in Linux and Solaris |
| 01:24.43 | deadcat | imango: you know more stuff then most people here (= |
| 01:24.48 | ctrlER | hi, I'm using unstable and when i search for gksudo it is gone, I cant find anything |
| 01:24.55 | [Outlaw] | Ok, thanks |
| 01:25.06 | Debird | imango: sorry I guess I got confused as to help you were looking for. |
| 01:25.28 | ctrlER | I did a dist-upgrade and it must removed gksudo |
| 01:25.28 | beardy | imango: What are you looking for, what do you want to do? |
| 01:25.42 | ctrlER | I did manually remove gksu, but are they the same thing? |
| 01:26.24 | deadcat | yes |
| 01:26.26 | imango | Debird: I want to finish my LPI |
| 01:26.46 | deadcat | imango: we dont certify people here |
| 01:26.58 | ctrlER | deadcat, are yoou saying yes to me? |
| 01:27.06 | deadcat | yes |
| 01:27.28 | imango | Debird:I know, but I thoug you would know where I could go...but thanks anyway |
| 01:27.37 | beardy | imango: If you already are a bit familliar with basic things, some of this you may know already, but still, /msg dpkg reference, http://www.tldp.org/, this one perhaps http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html |
| 01:28.20 | ctrlER | deadcat, and do you mean yes, gksu is the same as gksudo? |
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| 01:28.40 | ctrlER | deadcat, (just checking...) |
| 01:28.56 | deadcat | ctrlER: just let dist-upgrade handle it (= |
| 01:29.23 | liable | whats LPI? |
| 01:29.39 | ctrlER | deadcat, i just did a dist-upgrade and it didnt installed gksu or gksudo |
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| 01:29.52 | deadcat | ctrlER: oh. then install one now |
| 01:29.58 | wwallace_lap | how do i fix my clock? |
| 01:30.13 | deadcat | wwallace_lap: ntpdate |
| 01:30.13 | lildude | with new battery or hammer |
| 01:30.18 | deadcat | or ^^ |
| 01:30.29 | wwallace_lap | deadcat: thank you |
| 01:30.38 | imango | liable: Linux Professional Institute certification |
| 01:30.41 | dvs | wwallace_lap: Lemma guess, it's exactly X hours ahead or behind |
| 01:30.46 | deadcat | wwallace_lap: but try lildude's advice as well. just incase |
| 01:30.48 | liable | imango: thanks |
| 01:31.11 | liable | hehe, hope its better than a MCE cert :P |
| 01:31.16 | deadcat | dvs: what are you, a psychic? |
| 01:31.18 | imango | beardy: Thank you...I had a fast look...they look good |
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| 01:31.22 | luite | does anyone here have experience with fuse and mountlo? I've mounted a file, but the mountpoint disappears. I can still cd to the mountpoint, but when I do an 'ls' on the mounted drive, it says ´connection refused´ |
| 01:31.26 | Debird | a good hammer and a 36" crowbar can make just about anything fit right. :) |
| 01:31.35 | wwallace_lap | wwallace@KANOTIX_AT_LAPTOP:~$ su |
| 01:31.35 | wwallace_lap | Password: |
| 01:31.35 | wwallace_lap | root@KANOTIX_AT_LAPTOP:/home/wwallace# ntupdate |
| 01:31.35 | wwallace_lap | bash: ntupdate: command not found |
| 01:31.35 | wwallace_lap | root@KANOTIX_AT_LAPTOP:/home/wwallace# |
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| 01:31.48 | dvs | deadcat: Maybe |
| 01:31.49 | wwallace_lap | sorry |
| 01:31.56 | dvs | deadcat: Just don't leave the house tomorrow |
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| 01:32.19 | shingouz | wwallace_lap: install ntpdate and go to #kanotix to ask further questions |
| 01:32.22 | ke6isf | wwallace_lap: ntupdate in Debian? =O.o= |
| 01:32.23 | liable | dvs: lotto numbers please! |
| 01:32.30 | deadcat | dvs: sorry. i have to go somewhere tomorrow |
| 01:32.33 | dvs | ha! |
| 01:32.38 | dvs | Uh oh |
| 01:33.02 | deadcat | dvs: anything happens to me, i got a list of poeple after your ass... and your family's ass |
| 01:33.04 | soar | i need run alsaconf to make sound card work after I reboot/shutdown my sarge box. |
| 01:33.19 | ke6isf | !kanotix |
| 01:33.19 | dpkg | kanotix is, like, not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) |
| 01:33.21 | lildude | liable wil need strong drink after i fixed up |
| 01:33.24 | dvs | deadcat: Hey! Don't shoot the messenger! |
| 01:33.33 | deadcat | dvs: i wont shoot. just torture (= |
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| 01:33.38 | dvs | doh! |
| 01:33.43 | soar | is it possible to make sound card work without rebooting/running alsaconf everytime? |
| 01:33.44 | liable | soar: are the modules loaded before you run alsaconf |
| 01:33.46 | deadcat | dvs: you wish you get shot (= |
| 01:33.51 | ke6isf | OK, so what's info on Kanotix? |
| 01:33.56 | soar | yes, they are |
| 01:33.56 | ke6isf | aside from that... |
| 01:34.06 | shingouz | ke6isf: #kanotix ;) |
| 01:34.16 | luite | I if run UML, the UML kernel doesn´t have to be the same version as the normal one, right= |
| 01:34.21 | luite | ? |
| 01:34.27 | ke6isf | shingouz: well, thank you, Mr. Clevertrousers. =^_^= |
| 01:35.09 | ke6isf | Ah, it's like Sid, but not. |
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| 01:35.39 | shingouz | ke6isf: like oxygen and ozone |
| 01:35.46 | ke6isf | shingouz: Indeed. |
| 01:35.58 | ke6isf | Well, dangit, that's the analogy I needed! Thanks, shingouz! |
| 01:35.59 | lildude | xdm is kde? |
| 01:36.22 | shingouz | ke6isf: you're welcome Mr. Clevertrousers :p |
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| 01:37.49 | lildude | liable |
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| 01:41.35 | beardy | lildude: no, xdm is X Display Manager (where you login to X, if you use it, other ones are kdm, gdm wdm and so on), and KDE is a desktop environment. |
| 01:42.06 | deadcat | !i win |
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| 01:44.18 | liable | win what? |
| 01:44.49 | liable | stupid laptop mode is shutting my hard drive down while on ac, grrr |
| 01:44.55 | beardy | !win deadcat |
| 01:44.56 | dpkg | Congratulations, deadcat! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 01:45.28 | deadcat | liable: beauty contest |
| 01:45.33 | dabaR | does any of you guys use any apps for kids? |
| 01:45.36 | liable | haha |
| 01:45.47 | dabaR | games, some stuff that kids/children will like. |
| 01:45.47 | deadcat | dabaR: no but debian has a junior section |
| 01:45.54 | lildude | liable has crown form helping me |
| 01:46.08 | liable | give me guiness! |
| 01:46.14 | dabaR | deadcat: no is not a valid answer. |
| 01:46.15 | lildude | and bottle o rum for stress |
| 01:46.18 | beardy | dabaR: Any special types of apps you are looking for? |
| 01:46.25 | deadcat | dabaR: bitch you on your own! |
| 01:46.28 | dabaR | not sure. no, then I guess. |
| 01:46.46 | dabaR | deadcat: see I say that cause...you cant answer no if I asked any of you. |
| 01:47.13 | dabaR | which is completely not important, not sure why I mentioned that. |
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| 01:47.30 | liable | !lart dabaR |
| 01:47.36 | Debird | ouch |
| 01:47.39 | deadcat | dabaR: what the fuck you smoking dude. |
| 01:47.49 | lildude | nothing |
| 01:48.01 | lildude | i dont smoke i dont do drugs |
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| 01:48.36 | dabaR | lildude: putting a persons nick in front of a message means you are addressing them in particular. |
| 01:49.01 | deadcat | dabaR: he wants attention. let him have it |
| 01:49.24 | lildude | who did i do that to |
| 01:49.30 | lildude | sory |
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| 01:50.06 | dabaR | no need to be sorry, you answered what you are smoking, and it had my nick in front, just thought I would tell you about teh nick in front of a message thing |
| 01:50.06 | theblue | Hi all. |
| 01:50.09 | Debird | best thing I did for my kids was to give them an old Toshiba notebook, a PC and a PowerPC and some cds I bought at walmart and not connect them to the Internet. |
| 01:50.33 | Debird | oh yeah and some music cds |
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| 01:50.42 | deadcat | Debird: sure you dont want to teach them some sports as well? (= |
| 01:50.46 | ke6isf | Hello, theblue |
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| 01:51.15 | Debird | some of the cds were sports games... good call deadcat |
| 01:51.20 | liable | do kids even play sports these days? |
| 01:51.32 | deadcat | Debird: as in going outside.. |
| 01:51.36 | theblue | Hi, ke6isf. |
| 01:52.05 | deadcat | Debird: the sun on the computer dont count. if it does. i would have a killer tan from playing counter-strike back in the days |
| 01:52.11 | ke6isf | Debird: That's like online bass fishing. Entertaining at most, but what do you get out of it? |
| 01:52.23 | mwilson | You get not having to clean the fish. |
| 01:52.34 | ke6isf | mwilson: ...and not getting to eat the fish, either. |
| 01:52.37 | Debird | yeah they like outside during the day but I can't just send em out to play in the freeway after dark. :) |
| 01:52.53 | Debird | its not like the old days where you could |
| 01:53.02 | deadcat | Debird: not freeway. no.. but highway is ok |
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| 01:53.50 | Debird | yeah i got dat computa tan mysef |
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| 01:54.11 | Debird | sometimes their games are at night too. |
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| 01:56.34 | granden | how do I add myself to the wheel group without having to write all the groups I already in? |
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| 01:56.41 | lildude | i got 3 degree burn fishing |
| 01:56.43 | deadcat | granden: debian dont have wheel |
| 01:57.00 | granden | ok |
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| 01:57.03 | deadcat | lildude: you clearly did something wrong |
| 01:57.06 | granden | then I create that group |
| 01:57.28 | deadcat | granden: then adduser |
| 01:57.35 | granden | adduser granden wheel? |
| 01:57.38 | Wyzard | granden: adduser <user> <group> |
| 01:57.49 | granden | but do I stay in all my video audio usb and that then? |
| 01:57.54 | Wyzard | yes |
| 01:57.57 | granden | nice |
| 01:57.57 | Debird | lildude: what were you fishing for? |
| 01:58.20 | Wyzard | And you have to log out and back in for the new group membership to take effect |
| 01:58.21 | lildude | walleye |
| 01:58.36 | deadcat | Debird: got nothing to do with fishing. he got drunk |
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| 01:58.51 | granden | hmm |
| 01:58.56 | granden | have to edit sudoers as well :P |
| 01:59.00 | lildude | deadcat i dont drink |
| 01:59.14 | Debird | drunk=walleye |
| 01:59.31 | Debird | i can see that |
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| 02:00.27 | SJr|Tecra | Ah excellent |
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| 02:00.54 | SJr|Tecra | Hmmmm I'm having a problem with upgrading apache on my sid box. |
| 02:00.58 | SJr|Tecra | Basically this is what apt-get does |
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| 02:01.26 | SJr|Tecra | http://pastebin.com/335713 |
| 02:02.24 | SJr|Tecra | it just hangs there |
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| 02:06.57 | Phroziac | At the expense of adding cruft to my computer, is there a way to apt fonts for all languages apt has? |
| 02:07.02 | liable | SJr|Tecra: so, hit ctrl c and go about fixing it, or file a bug or check bts |
| 02:07.16 | SJr|Tecra | hmmmm actually nevermind its been a long day |
| 02:07.18 | SJr|Tecra | I found it |
| 02:08.08 | granden | how should I edit /etc/sudoers so I can write sudo apt-get install lynx if I do that now its prompt for a apssword but I dotn want it to do that |
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| 02:08.49 | Boter | hello |
| 02:08.49 | x-Al1gma | hello Boter |
| 02:08.52 | Boter | anybody here? |
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| 02:09.02 | Ronin | nope we're all closed for the night |
| 02:09.13 | soar | what's the biggest difference between kenerl 2.4 and 2.6? |
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| 02:09.51 | dabaR | I find that gcompris is a very aceptable app gfor kids. |
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| 02:10.02 | Boter | /lib/modules/2.4.31-freak/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.o: insmod ipv6 failed |
| 02:10.08 | Boter | any idea what i missed? |
| 02:10.49 | Boter | kernel was compilled... and after that i add M for ipv6, and now i get this error |
| 02:11.11 | Boter | and after that i made make modules && make modules_install |
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| 02:12.28 | kingtux | anyone have expericence with ISPCONFIG |
| 02:12.29 | kingtux | ?? |
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| 02:13.39 | herbi | hi there |
| 02:14.09 | Boter | hey herbi :) |
| 02:14.11 | herbi | how can i get a list of all the pakages installed on my system (deb unstable) so say, if my hard drive failed and i wanted to reinstall i could tell apt/dpkg to use that list? |
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| 02:15.02 | Boter | sorry herbi dont have clue |
| 02:15.02 | Boter | :) |
| 02:15.08 | Boter | maybe ls /etc/ |
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| 02:15.10 | Boter | will be useful |
| 02:15.16 | Boter | here you can see installed stuff :P |
| 02:15.23 | Boter | write it down :P |
| 02:15.35 | herbi | Guerin, you around? :D |
| 02:15.38 | Debird | back it up |
| 02:15.39 | beardy | !installed packages |
| 02:15.39 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; |
| 02:15.40 | Xenguy | herbi: there is a way to do that, hrm... |
| 02:15.52 | Xenguy | herbi: yep, what beardy said |
| 02:15.53 | Debird | BEFORE it takes a dump |
| 02:16.14 | equex | list selected packages in synaptic, select them again, save selection |
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| 02:16.24 | Xenguy | herbi: oops, I was thinking of something else |
| 02:16.26 | Boter | any help for me maybe? :) |
| 02:16.28 | herbi | beardy, thats fine, pretty much what i thought, didnt really bother with the awk vodoo. how can i tell apt/dpkg to install that list |
| 02:16.39 | Debird | or listen to dpkg if that did not work... :) |
| 02:16.48 | equex | list *installed* packs first |
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| 02:17.13 | herbi | equex, im not doing it with synaptic |
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| 02:18.06 | herbi | here we go |
| 02:18.08 | herbi | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/55 |
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| 02:18.24 | vali | hi |
| 02:18.37 | beardy | !selections |
| 02:18.37 | dpkg | methinks ffs copy is run "dpkg --get-selections > foo.txt" on the source, copy foo.txt to the destination and run "dpkg --set-selections < foo.txt ; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade" on the destination. |
| 02:19.13 | Xenguy | herbi: there ya go :-) |
| 02:19.22 | SJr|Tecra | where is that snapshot thing If i want to find old debian files. |
| 02:19.30 | Boter | any idea what i schould do? |
| 02:20.12 | herbi | thanks beardy |
| 02:20.49 | beardy | herbi: that url seem like a good read, thanks |
| 02:21.06 | herbi | :) |
| 02:21.33 | herbi | beardy, the first comment is quite good |
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| 02:22.57 | herbi | i should set up a svn repo somewhere overseas |
| 02:23.02 | herbi | or maybe on one of the work puters |
| 02:23.10 | herbi | or rsyncd |
| 02:23.17 | herbi | and get a network backup copy going |
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| 02:24.20 | Boter | anybody? :( |
| 02:24.54 | liable | Boter: why are you compiling it anyway? |
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| 02:25.05 | Boter | well |
| 02:25.08 | Boter | it's not for me |
| 02:25.14 | liable | Boter: and try doing it the debian way, with make-kpkg |
| 02:25.15 | Boter | its friends box |
| 02:25.23 | Boter | well |
| 02:25.29 | Boter | he doesent want to have restarted |
| 02:25.36 | Boter | so i added M for ipv6 |
| 02:25.42 | Boter | and compile modules |
| 02:25.48 | Boter | and now i get this error |
| 02:25.49 | liable | !enter |
| 02:25.50 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 02:26.01 | Boter | earlier kernel was done with debian way |
| 02:26.14 | ke6isf | Doesn't Deb have native support for ipv6? |
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| 02:27.31 | Boter | so what schould i check? |
| 02:27.35 | Boter | at my place it worked normally |
| 02:27.40 | SJr|Tecra | How can I figure out what devices are connected to my USB ports on Linux, I'm having trouble getting something to work. |
| 02:27.43 | Boter | but i have done this monzhs ago |
| 02:27.50 | Boter | months |
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| 02:29.02 | dpower | How many bytes are in a megabyte ? |
| 02:29.14 | Debird | 1024000 |
| 02:29.16 | beardy | ke6isf: The name is Debian, deb is often used as a name for a package file. Support for that is in the kernel. Precompiled kernels most likely have that as a loadable module. |
| 02:29.26 | dpower | way to go |
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| 02:30.20 | Carla | ldfgietuhhhetjmnblp4e |
| 02:30.24 | Carla | putos |
| 02:30.31 | ke6isf | dpower: 1048576. Basically, 1024^2. |
| 02:30.44 | soar | my Thinkpad T30 runs much more faster with the kernel 2.6 than 2.4 |
| 02:30.58 | soar | do you have similar experience? |
| 02:31.07 | Boter | anybody :( |
| 02:31.12 | Wyzard | Debird: No, 1048576 (1024*1024) |
| 02:31.13 | beardy | !anybody |
| 02:31.13 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 02:31.22 | ke6isf | !beer wizard |
| 02:31.26 | ke6isf | !beer wyzard |
| 02:31.28 | dpower | !beer me |
| 02:31.28 | ke6isf | (oops) |
| 02:31.35 | soar | !soar |
| 02:31.35 | dpkg | i guess soar is Dan_S's slave!, or 250 years old, and 3 feet tall! |
| 02:31.37 | Wyzard | !icedtea wyzard |
| 02:31.39 | Wyzard | oh well |
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| 02:31.58 | ke6isf | Debird: I don't think that 1024000 is a round number in binary. |
| 02:32.24 | docgnome | Does anyone know of a tool that will let me dump a pdf to an editable format? Or edit a pdf... Or something. |
| 02:32.34 | Debird | oops. from the wrong hip. |
| 02:32.46 | Wyzard | docgnome: You can't really usefully edit a PDF |
| 02:32.57 | Wyzard | docgnome: It's basically a low-level description of where to put ink on a page |
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| 02:33.52 | Wyzard | docgnome: Text is usually stored as strings so you could potentially edit it, but to re-do the line wrapping you'd have to recalculate lots of coordinates by hand |
| 02:34.08 | userdefined | docgnome: if you don't care about keeping it in .pdf format, you can check out the pdfto* packages (pdftotext, pdftops, etc) |
| 02:35.24 | Wyzard | Converting it to PostScript would let you open it in a text editor, but there's still not much you can do with it, in practical terms |
| 02:36.08 | docgnome | I want to be able to change the margins on some pdfs i have so they are readable on my pda |
| 02:36.49 | Wyzard | So that there are fewer words per line? |
| 02:37.13 | docgnome | yeah |
| 02:37.14 | Wyzard | It'd be less work to just retype them into plain text |
| 02:37.41 | Wyzard | Lines of text are stored as a string and a coordinate location on the page where it should be drawn |
| 02:38.04 | Wyzard | You'd have to split up the strings and calculate all new coordinates... basically re-word-wrapping the entire document by hand |
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| 02:38.28 | Wyzard | And if the text is justified on both sides (so the spacing between words varies), it's even more complicated |
| 02:38.53 | tracysun | ä½ æ€Žä¹ˆå‘¢ |
| 02:39.01 | Wyzard | Try pdftotext |
| 02:39.06 | dpower | ¡$%#$^&@%&¡ |
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| 02:39.40 | ke6isf | dpower: Watch your mouth! =^_^= |
| 02:39.42 | beardy | docgnome: Edit the pdftotext text in a wordprocessor that can export to pdf perhaps? If you want it in that format. |
| 02:40.04 | swatikiss | i am trying to make my computer "sleep"... could someone point me in the right direction - thanks |
| 02:40.43 | beardy | swatikiss: sleep(1), but probably not what you mean.. |
| 02:40.47 | dpower | give her some valium |
| 02:41.03 | ke6isf | swatikiss: chamomile tea... wait, no, liquids are bad for computers. |
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| 02:41.11 | ke6isf | rephrase, hydrous liquids &c. |
| 02:41.41 | swatikiss | beardy, yeh sleep / suspend with acpi |
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| 02:44.48 | buu | Hrm. I'm trying to make dmix work, I installed the various debian packages it suggests but when I try to test it I get a page full of errors about "not being able to open card 0" and such: http://erxz.com/pb/24 |
| 02:45.22 | beardy | swatikiss: I don't know how well that works, but I think it does. I don't know how, or with which program to do that with though.. Why not turn it off if you don't need it on? Computers boot very fast these days anyway. If you have acpi support in your kernel, and hardware that supports it, it should already be using it to set hardware to sleep modes. |
| 02:45.37 | sorcre | Hi, In what directory are the C header files for my current kernel? |
| 02:45.55 | buu | sorcre: /usr/src or some such, assuming their installed |
| 02:46.25 | Wyzard | sorcre: apt-cache search kernel-headers |
| 02:46.45 | Wyzard | sorcre: Install the one that matches your current kernel-image package, and look in /usr/src |
| 02:46.49 | buu | Is there something else I need to install to make dmix work? |
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| 02:47.14 | buu | I can play sound and such just fine |
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| 02:52.42 | buu | Anyone? |
| 02:53.28 | dpower | 0.o |
| 02:53.36 | buu | I'm guessing that's a no. |
| 02:53.47 | dpower | im just a noob |
| 02:53.58 | Vegar | how can I jam/make install to a specific directory (i.e. /home/my/dir instead of /)? |
| 02:54.37 | buu | dpkg --root ? |
| 02:54.38 | buu | Maybe |
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| 02:56.03 | mathieu_ | i'm getting this error trying to install lilo to my usb flashdrive : Fatal: LILO internal error: Would overwrite Partition Table any ideas ? |
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| 02:58.43 | beardy | mathieu_: Are you sure you can boot with that at all? |
| 02:58.56 | buu | Gah. I just want to play multiple sounds! |
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| 03:01.06 | mathieu_ | beardy, i googled the issue and i should be able to |
| 03:01.23 | mathieu_ | beardy, my bios supports booting from usb devices |
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| 03:02.56 | beardy | mathieu_: Perhaps it's MBR is different than "normal" IDE drives? Perhaps that's what confusing lilo? Or that lilo doesn't like usb disks at all. Perhaps you could try using grub instead? |
| 03:03.24 | vladster | I added a user, where do I copy the template for the user setup? |
| 03:03.33 | vladster | for the directory |
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| 03:06.06 | mathieu_ | beardy, thank you for the advice, I will try this |
| 03:06.28 | mathieu_ | beardy, i have also tried syslinux but i am unfamiliar with it and got a boot error |
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| 03:10.06 | Omniscientist | anyone here live in minneapolis? :D |
| 03:10.34 | wannabe | I hitchhiked through once, does that count? :P |
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| 03:11.27 | buu | ALSA lib confmisc.c:560:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0, anyone have an idea what part of dmix I need to poke? |
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| 03:12.04 | tracysun | how to change refresh frequence |
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| 03:14.18 | ke6isf | tracysun: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 03:15.14 | beardy | vladster: Read the adduser manpage. |
| 03:15.20 | ke6isf | !ubuntusmite ucast |
| 03:15.23 | ke6isf | wait, he left. |
| 03:16.13 | beardy | mathieu_: I'm sure syslinux has documentation on how to use it, and how it works. |
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| 03:17.18 | wannabe | I remember in an episode of "Bullshit", they had people go to a peace rally and pass around a petition for banning dihydrogen monozide |
| 03:17.22 | wannabe | freaking hilarious |
| 03:17.31 | ke6isf | wannabe: How many did they collect this time? |
| 03:17.33 | wannabe | *monoxide |
| 03:17.40 | wannabe | more than enough |
| 03:18.03 | ke6isf | You'd think after the first time more people would understand. |
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| 03:18.51 | wannabe | some were even drinking it while signing the petition |
| 03:18.57 | Mrdini | DHMO? |
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| 03:19.04 | ke6isf | !dhmo |
| 03:19.05 | dpkg | well, dhmo is DyHydrogen MonoOxide - A deadly substance. Read up on the FAQ at http://www.dhmo.org. Petition Congress to ban the substance NOW! |
| 03:19.13 | wannabe | Mrdini: H2O |
| 03:19.15 | vladster | what is the exact location of the blackdown reposistory |
| 03:19.34 | ke6isf | !blackdown |
| 03:19.34 | dpkg | blackdown kicks ass; they're java people for linux -- http://www.blackdown.org, or a group of Sun Java products ported to Linux by the Blackdown development team. Get it at http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html, or most mirrors have aptable sections, or a group of folks who signed NDA's with Sun and got the JDK source code. they ported it to linux and put it up on blackdown.org, or shit, use java-package |
| 03:19.37 | Mrdini | ke6isf, heh, I know what DHMO is :P but....... *shakes head* people STILL get suckered by that?! |
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| 03:19.49 | ke6isf | Mrdini: evidently. |
| 03:20.09 | ke6isf | Mrdini: Then again, this is a day and age when soccer moms call 911 because they get shitty service at Burger King. |
| 03:20.21 | vladster | so is it a source or just a binary repos |
| 03:20.36 | wannabe | "He didn't get my order right, I think he's part of a terrorist cell..." |
| 03:20.36 | ke6isf | vladster: Dunno, check out the URLs. |
| 03:20.41 | Mrdini | ke6isf, ....... I'll have to ask dfor supporting evidence of that 911 story :P |
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| 03:21.35 | vladster | putting togather my apt sources list |
| 03:21.41 | ke6isf | wannabe, Mrdini: http://www.snopes.com/crime/cops/burger.asp |
| 03:21.58 | ke6isf | They call it undetermined, but they explain why. |
| 03:22.07 | ke6isf | And this happened like fifteen minutes from where I sit. |
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| 03:23.58 | Mrdini | ke6isf,....... *headdesks* |
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| 03:24.23 | wannabe | lol that dhmo page rocks |
| 03:24.39 | ke6isf | Mrdini: Only in Orange County. |
| 03:24.58 | wannabe | ke6isf: you live in OC? |
| 03:25.04 | wannabe | I live in Monterey County |
| 03:25.10 | ke6isf | wannabe: Yeah, one block from Crystal Cathedral. |
| 03:25.13 | wannabe | about 300 miles north |
| 03:25.33 | wannabe | same state though :P |
| 03:25.42 | ke6isf | Big place, this is. Was in Santa Barbara last week. |
| 03:26.06 | wannabe | closest to there I've been in the last year is Lompoc |
| 03:26.24 | wannabe | if you know where Vandenberg AFB is |
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| 03:26.35 | wannabe | I'd assume so ;D |
| 03:26.37 | ke6isf | Rough idea. I know it's near SBA, but don't know exaclty where. |
| 03:26.52 | buu | Well, I'm a lot closer to making fmix work |
| 03:26.53 | buu | dmix! |
| 03:27.03 | buu | aoss mpg123 foo.mp3 works for a single mp3 |
| 03:27.06 | vladster | I am going to need the exact entry for the apt sources list, If I try and download and install, I know some relationship is not going to be linked properly |
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| 03:27.18 | buu | But I can't make it play multiples |
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| 03:27.37 | buu | Also, alsaplayer still doesn't produce sounds |
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| 03:28.13 | Teace | I got a question if anyone can help. |
| 03:28.33 | Teace | It's about setting up a static ip from my debian box to my router, How I do this? |
| 03:29.02 | fidget | ifconfig eth0 then the ip isn't it? |
| 03:29.03 | astronut | setting the debian box to be static? |
| 03:29.15 | fidget | or whatever you connection uses |
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| 03:29.20 | astronut | fidget: yes, or modify /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces) to be permanent |
| 03:29.26 | Teace | astronut, Yes |
| 03:29.32 | fidget | ahhh .. |
| 03:29.36 | fidget | heh I think I'll do that now =P |
| 03:29.52 | Teace | ifconfig eth0, Right? |
| 03:30.02 | wannabe | on my netgear router, it has a nice "static routes" option, but I'm sure it varies |
| 03:30.13 | Teace | I'm a linksys fan. |
| 03:30.13 | Teace | :P |
| 03:30.20 | fidget | as am I |
| 03:30.32 | Teace | Not literally a (fan) like in a computer but a fan :P |
| 03:30.33 | fidget | is it possible to make a debian box into a wireless repeter? |
| 03:30.34 | fidget | repeater |
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| 03:30.52 | liable | dont think so. |
| 03:31.05 | Omniscientist | i think i found my isp |
| 03:31.14 | liable | fidget: there is something about it in man iwconfig though |
| 03:31.51 | fidget | humm |
| 03:31.56 | fidget | aight i'll have to look into that |
| 03:32.01 | fidget | thanks chief |
| 03:32.47 | Teace | astronut, I wouldn't know what to set for the /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 03:32.57 | astronut | Teace: man 5 interfaces |
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| 03:33.26 | Teace | :S |
| 03:33.43 | wannabe | wow, just realized I had a stack of cds on my router |
| 03:33.47 | Teace | oh |
| 03:33.48 | Teace | rofl |
| 03:33.49 | wannabe | hope they didn't warp |
| 03:33.49 | Teace | sorry. |
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| 03:35.11 | Dinkydo | ftp server problem, my server appears to be working correctly, I can ftp into it from localhost, and from another box on the same network, but when I try to connect from outside the network it fails. The port is open on the fire wall (21), my hosts.allow/hosts.deny are set to allow this connection. is there another setting I need to play with? |
| 03:35.27 | fidget | wannabe your router gets THAT hot? |
| 03:35.50 | wannabe | well, as hot as leaving cds in direct sunlight |
| 03:35.52 | Teace | I think he needs a new router. |
| 03:36.03 | rob_lt | Hello. Can someone recommend some good literature for administrating a debian/linux network? I've found tonnes of books/sites that talk about "here is how to move a file in linux" and "here is how to use tabs in mozilla". |
| 03:36.06 | fidget | so do I |
| 03:36.12 | fidget | or else .. cook some marshmellows over that beast |
| 03:36.22 | Teace | Lol |
| 03:36.24 | wannabe | actually since I only have 3 devices plugged in atm, it feels kinda lukewarm |
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| 03:36.30 | fidget | linux server hacks |
| 03:36.36 | fidget | brilliant book .. |
| 03:36.40 | fidget | get it from the library =P |
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| 03:36.47 | rob_lt | fidget: thanks... will definitely look for that one. |
| 03:36.54 | fidget | no prob |
| 03:36.57 | fidget | *pats copy* |
| 03:37.14 | fidget | humm I had a couple ebooks on it as well .. |
| 03:37.19 | fidget | looks threw eBooks ... |
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| 03:37.33 | wannabe | I just got Debian GNU/Linux Bible, but haven't really checked it out yet |
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| 03:37.51 | rob_lt | I'm looking to set up a network of approx 30 clients, and I want some recommendations on perhaps using NFS for the /home partition, backup methodology, etc... not how to use the mv command :) |
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| 03:38.15 | fidget | theres a section on backup in that book |
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| 03:38.22 | lildude | i got gnome |
| 03:38.25 | fidget | via ssh |
| 03:38.28 | buu | I've run alsaconf, it works fine, it sets stuff up, then I try to use alsaplayer to play a file and it kbreaks |
| 03:38.30 | wannabe | in linux server hacks? |
| 03:38.34 | fidget | yup |
| 03:38.35 | buu | Rather, I get absolutely no sound output |
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| 03:38.39 | buu | Anyone have a clue where I could look? |
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| 03:38.45 | rob_lt | fidget: againk, thanks... it's likely exactly what I'm after :) |
| 03:38.54 | fidget | I hope so =) |
| 03:39.36 | wannabe | fidget: is that o'reily? |
| 03:39.42 | fidget | hang on |
| 03:39.53 | fidget | yup |
| 03:39.58 | fidget | Rob Flickenger |
| 03:40.05 | wannabe | sweet, found tons of ebook matches on ed2k :P |
| 03:40.09 | fidget | Linux server hacks: 100 Industrial strength tips and tools |
| 03:40.22 | tracysun | hello |
| 03:40.23 | x-Al1gma | hello tracysun |
| 03:40.26 | fidget | eBooks are a beautiful thing |
| 03:40.35 | buu | mpg123 works just fine, so why won't alsaplayer? |
| 03:41.09 | wannabe | thx for the tip fidget, looks like an interesting read |
| 03:41.40 | wannabe | my mom reads horror, my stepdad reads fantasy, and I read linux guides :P |
| 03:41.48 | fidget | hahah |
| 03:41.55 | fidget | I've been trying to get threw this ... perl book |
| 03:41.58 | fidget | dreadfully dull |
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| 03:42.43 | vladster | Will sarge stay stable for at least a couple of years? |
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| 03:42.48 | newmanbe | Probably. |
| 03:43.08 | wannabe | in a couple of years current sarge will probably be obsolete :P |
| 03:43.15 | vladster | good, I hat changing things around on a critical boot |
| 03:43.15 | fidget | i'm looking to try out a new distro ... either gentoo or slackware ... views? |
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| 03:43.40 | newmanbe | Probably the wrong place to ask about a different distro... |
| 03:43.43 | spoonman2 | what is tcp rexmit? |
| 03:43.48 | wannabe | fidget: both are good if you like control |
| 03:44.05 | Teace | astronut, restarting to get to static? |
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| 03:44.10 | fidget | really newmanbe? I thought this would be a great place to ask |
| 03:44.11 | Teace | how do I restart the settings? |
| 03:44.17 | astronut | Teace: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 03:44.36 | tracysun | oh,my god |
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| 03:44.48 | wannabe | try both :p |
| 03:44.57 | wannabe | I'm running a tri-boot box atm |
| 03:45.11 | fidget | tri-boot |
| 03:45.11 | wannabe | debian (2 kernels), freebsd, and winxp |
| 03:45.11 | fidget | nice |
| 03:45.19 | fidget | hahh niceee |
| 03:45.32 | rob_lt | fidget: honestly, I dont' want to sound like a hater, but don't waste your time with gentoo. |
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| 03:45.49 | fidget | really alot of people from the user group here in jville swear by it |
| 03:45.59 | rob_lt | slack is supposed to be nice, and now there is opensuse. |
| 03:46.05 | fidget | opensuse? |
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| 03:46.13 | wannabe | opensuse? |
| 03:46.17 | wannabe | lol |
| 03:46.18 | rob_lt | sure, just good for it. |
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| 03:46.25 | wannabe | google? |
| 03:46.27 | theblue | Hi all. |
| 03:46.30 | fidget | ; P |
| 03:46.36 | theblue | Would anyone be able to help me set up a dual-head configuration on Ubuntu Hoary? |
| 03:46.37 | wannabe | hi theblue |
| 03:46.49 | rob_lt | wannabe: sorry, msn search for you I guess :) |
| 03:46.49 | theblue | Oh wait. |
| 03:46.53 | theblue | Wrong channel, sorry. |
| 03:47.00 | wannabe | lol |
| 03:47.12 | vladster | what is the command to configure alsa |
| 03:47.16 | rob_lt | alsaconf |
| 03:47.18 | wannabe | heh, I never touch anything msn |
| 03:47.27 | wannabe | even hotmail was too greasy |
| 03:48.07 | wannabe | heh |
| 03:48.36 | fidget | ah! dual-head ...... |
| 03:48.39 | micker | can anyone gimme some help installing qtparted? It wont install for lack of libreiserfs0.3-0, I dont see a sperate package for libreiser, but it seems to be contained in reiserfsprogs, which I have, and its recent... It's also erroring out on libparted1.6-0, and I know I have lib parted because I have parted installed... any Idea on how I can make this work? |
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| 03:48.57 | fidget | does anyone have any docs on that? |
| 03:49.22 | micker | the only repository that had both librieser0.3-0 and qtparted was www.xandors.or.id which when down recently.. |
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| 03:49.33 | wannabe | dual-head what, gfx? |
| 03:49.35 | liable | micker: just use a rescue cd, your partitions need to be unmounted anyway. |
| 03:49.39 | fidget | gfk? |
| 03:49.42 | fidget | gfx.. |
| 03:49.45 | wannabe | if so, I'd be interested in getting my own working |
| 03:49.46 | liable | micker: its not in sarge or etch atm |
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| 03:49.57 | rob_lt | !tell theblue about xinerama |
| 03:50.22 | rob_lt | !xinerama |
| 03:50.22 | dpkg | it has been said that xinerama is where you have several monitors but only one logical desktop -- XFree86 4.0 has it!, or http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Xinerama-HOWTO.html |
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| 03:51.38 | astronut | rob_lt: !tell works in PM |
| 03:51.53 | fidget | ah cool cool dpkg .. |
| 03:51.58 | fidget | goes and reads.. |
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| 03:52.23 | micker | liable, It just a storage drive I need to repartition... what rescue cd is it on? Is it on the ubuntu liveCD? |
| 03:53.03 | fidget | ahh! this xinerama is exactly what i'm looking for |
| 03:53.07 | liable | micker: I dont know about ubuntu, its on knoppix, and rescuecd, would imagine its on ubuntu live one. |
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| 03:53.42 | JosephSpiros | Someone should package CoreFoundation (CF-lite) for Debian :p |
| 03:53.57 | rob_lt | astronut: yeah... I was just going to tell theblue about it, and then it seemed like other were interested, so in hind sight I should have just used dpkg the once in public. |
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| 03:54.34 | astronut | ah |
| 03:56.25 | daos | can anyone help me with this error from apache? "warn NameVirtualHost 10.0.0.1:80 has no VirtualHosts" |
| 03:57.09 | liable | micker: http://www.sysresccd.org/ nice little cd, only ~150M or so |
| 03:57.15 | abrotman | #apache ? |
| 03:57.25 | nvz | man I got to stop being such a bofh on myself |
| 03:57.28 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: file an RFP |
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| 03:57.39 | abrotman | nvz: how are those missing files? |
| 03:58.04 | abrotman | !tell JosephSpiros about rfp |
| 03:58.10 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: thank you :) |
| 03:58.22 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: would you like to learn how to package it? :) |
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| 03:58.39 | nvz | abrotman: they aren't missing they were neglected |
| 03:58.41 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: I've looked at how to create packages and I've actually made my own for some things |
| 03:58.53 | abrotman | nvz: uhm .. ok |
| 03:58.53 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: back on woody when I wanted newer versions of things than were offered |
| 03:58.58 | nvz | abrotman: had I made them read only, or any number of other things this wouldnt have happened |
| 03:59.10 | nvz | abrotman: or I had not been root for dumb reasons |
| 03:59.13 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: problem is, CoreFoundation is complicated and has weird patch things to apply and whatnot, and I wouldn't want to put up a package that was sub-par |
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| 03:59.17 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: ah ok .. yeah .. file an RFP if you want someone to possibly package it .. and gather as much info as possible like license etc |
| 03:59.24 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: basically, I lack confidence :) |
| 03:59.30 | nvz | abrotman: because I am too lazy to allow myself to manipulate mass storage devices |
| 03:59.37 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: there are people to help :) |
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| 04:02.03 | abrotman | !Moo |
| 04:02.03 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939, or cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
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| 04:04.58 | abrotman | 2 join .. 4 quit .. good time to raise the limit |
| 04:05.21 | sanxiyn | I noticed new pretty CSS for bugs.debian.org. |
| 04:06.26 | kingtux | anyone good tool to setup dns server?? Bind 9 |
| 04:06.40 | kingtux | Or a good how-to |
| 04:07.01 | kingtux | Got domain name and ready to serve |
| 04:07.30 | abrotman | sanxiyn: bugs.d.o .. css .. surely you typed in the wrong url |
| 04:07.57 | abrotman | kingtux: apt-get install bind9-doc .. there's the bind ARM .. great reference |
| 04:08.03 | abrotman | kingtux: and use vi :) |
| 04:08.33 | kingtux | Yeah I can use vi but I'm looking for logic refrernece too |
| 04:08.35 | sanxiyn | abrotman: No, I mean, like http://bugs.debian.org/100000 |
| 04:08.56 | abrotman | sanxiyn: i see .. |
| 04:08.59 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: hmm, I don't think APSL is compatible with debian guidelines ;[ |
| 04:09.04 | abrotman | kingtux: the bind ARM is the way to go |
| 04:09.09 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: apsl ? |
| 04:09.15 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: Apple Public Source License |
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| 04:09.33 | sanxiyn | (It seems that pkgreport.cgi is not yet CSS'd, only bugreport.cgi.) |
| 04:09.34 | abrotman | oh .. i have no idea .. you can ask debian-legal@lists.debian.org |
| 04:09.35 | kingtux | bind ARM does that come with bind9-doc |
| 04:09.41 | kingtux | what is it? |
| 04:09.43 | sanxiyn | Lots o' exciting developments in BTS front. |
| 04:09.53 | kingtux | I have it downloaded |
| 04:09.54 | abrotman | kingtux: Bind Administrator Reference Manual |
| 04:10.03 | abrotman | ke6isf: you crazy guy |
| 04:10.04 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 04:10.05 | dpkg | < galois> bethe: mutt? < bethe> bitch! |
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| 04:10.52 | abrotman | kingtux: /usr/share/doc/bind9-doc/arm/* |
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| 04:11.27 | sanxiyn | I like PowerDNS... YMMV. |
| 04:11.43 | abrotman | sanxiyn: freak .. use bind :) |
| 04:11.53 | abrotman | sanxiyn: though . at least you're not using djbdns :) |
| 04:11.53 | kingtux | thanks |
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| 04:12.02 | ke6isf | argh, djb gave me a migrane. |
| 04:12.10 | abrotman | !djb |
| 04:12.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, djb is an arrogant jerk, or Daniel J. Bernstein, author of qmail, djbdns, etc., or at http://cr.yp.to/djb.html, or a UNIX coding and mathematics genius, or an ego-maniac. See "wanker". |
| 04:12.15 | abrotman | !wanker |
| 04:12.15 | dpkg | hmm... wanker is giving the palm pilot a flight, massaging Kojak's head. Fuck, someone pass me the tissues. |
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| 04:13.36 | ke6isf | Da hell, I don't have lynx installed. =O.o= |
| 04:13.47 | abrotman | links ? |
| 04:13.55 | sanxiyn | lynx. |
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| 04:14.06 | abrotman | i was asking if links or links2 was installed :) |
| 04:14.11 | ke6isf | abrotman: Just checked that too, now that I did an apt-get. Links is, lynx wasn't. |
| 04:14.16 | sanxiyn | Is lynx a kind of cat |
| 04:14.20 | ke6isf | !lynx |
| 04:14.21 | dpkg | a good i mean rocking web browser!, or the ultimate solution to banner ads, or to stop a transfer, hit Ctrl-G, or a piece of shit. links ownz it |
| 04:14.28 | abrotman | sanxiyn: yes |
| 04:14.43 | abrotman | sanxiyn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx |
| 04:15.21 | sanxiyn | When will debbugs support kthxbye together with quit and thanks? |
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| 04:16.49 | abrotman | !lart sanxiyn |
| 04:17.11 | justin420 | hi |
| 04:17.31 | abrotman | lo |
| 04:17.47 | justin420 | got a stupid question, how does one go about updating a currently installed kernel? |
| 04:18.02 | abrotman | justin420: updating to what? |
| 04:18.11 | abrotman | justin420: and .. `uname -a` |
| 04:18.17 | justin420 | i have uhhh i think its 2.4 something |
| 04:18.21 | justin420 | i want 2.68 |
| 04:18.23 | abrotman | uname -a will tell you |
| 04:18.33 | justin420 | score, thanks ill look it up |
| 04:18.39 | abrotman | so will uname -r |
| 04:19.09 | justin420 | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 04:19.12 | sanxiyn | justin420: You install a kernel image package, and reboot. |
| 04:19.15 | abrotman | justin420: which cpu ? |
| 04:19.19 | abrotman | do you have :) |
| 04:19.41 | justin420 | uhh you talking about how fast my processor is? |
| 04:19.48 | justin420 | stupid linux newbie |
| 04:19.51 | justin420 | thats me |
| 04:19.56 | abrotman | Justin: P4 .. Athlon .. PII etc ... |
| 04:20.06 | abrotman | or Athlon64 .. crap like that |
| 04:20.08 | abrotman | justin420: |
| 04:20.13 | justin420 | p4 1.8ghz 512 rdram pc800 |
| 04:20.18 | justin420 | gateway p.o.s |
| 04:20.26 | abrotman | Justin: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 04:20.41 | justin420 | will that overwrite my current kernel? |
| 04:20.46 | abrotman | justin420: do that also |
| 04:20.49 | abrotman | Justin: sorry |
| 04:20.56 | justin420 | i think that is what i want to do, if that is a smart choice |
| 04:21.00 | abrotman | justin420: it will install it .. it won't remove the other |
| 04:21.12 | abrotman | justin420: you should never remove the old kernel . until you are sure the new one is working |
| 04:21.24 | justin420 | i did have it working on here before |
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| 04:21.41 | justin420 | i have had to reinstall debian like 3 or 4 different times |
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| 04:21.59 | abrotman | ah ok .. do the above .. it will get you want you want |
| 04:22.01 | abrotman | what you want |
| 04:22.04 | justin420 | i went playing around trying to get my tv-out to work for my ati-radeon ve |
| 04:22.11 | justin420 | no workie |
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| 04:22.23 | SJr|Tecra | Okay guys another problem, I am trying to get apcupsd to work on my system. I have 3 upses and two debian boxes. On one, when I unplug the UPS device as the manual advises. It looks like the program crashes, it prints data out to the console. Both machines have the same config file, and the same model UPS connected to it. How do I proceed? |
| 04:22.53 | abrotman | justin420: that's another problem |
| 04:22.58 | justin420 | abrotman; may i pm u?? |
| 04:23.09 | abrotman | justin420: i'm about to head to bed .. probably not the best idea :) |
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| 04:23.17 | justin420 | hehe, here ya tired |
| 04:23.25 | abrotman | justin420: if you keep it in the channel .. others can catch up |
| 04:23.41 | abrotman | !welcome sasKuach |
| 04:23.48 | abrotman | dpkg: you're not very nice |
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| 04:24.04 | abrotman | !greet sasKuach |
| 04:24.05 | dpkg | Tag, sasKuach |
| 04:24.08 | abrotman | heheh |
| 04:24.12 | justin420 | so apt-get install kenel-image-02.6.686? |
| 04:24.17 | abrotman | no 0 |
| 04:24.24 | abrotman | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 04:24.26 | sasKuach | anybody know how I can simultaneously use two internet connection? |
| 04:24.27 | justin420 | errr muh bad |
| 04:24.30 | abrotman | that's it .. that's all you need |
| 04:24.33 | abrotman | exactly what i typed |
| 04:24.40 | abrotman | sasKuach: channel bonding .. ask google |
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| 04:24.47 | justin420 | sorry dude typoooo |
| 04:24.50 | justin420 | :) |
| 04:24.51 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 04:25.20 | abrotman | sasKuach: google "linux channel bonding" .. shoudl yield ample results |
| 04:25.21 | justin420 | how would i go about removing the old kern once i know the new one is working? |
| 04:25.25 | abrotman | heh .. i used ample |
| 04:25.38 | justin420 | sorry to be a question after question ass_ole |
| 04:25.40 | sasKuach | ok, I'll check that out, thanks |
| 04:25.41 | abrotman | justin420: worry about that later .. man dpkg or man apt-get |
| 04:26.56 | justin420 | ok man, thanks appreaciate the help, if you come in here much there is a bunch of stuff i cant figure out, and ive google.com/linux'ed it and i guess i am just one of those stupid point and click fools, but am loving debian so far and am trying to become more smart about it |
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| 04:27.39 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 04:27.39 | dpkg | i heard refcard is http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 04:27.48 | abrotman | justin420: that wil help you |
| 04:27.53 | abrotman | god dman .. i can't type for shit |
| 04:27.57 | abrotman | see! |
| 04:28.08 | justin420 | lol, get some sleep yo |
| 04:28.17 | abrotman | beer .. up early .. not a good mix |
| 04:28.31 | justin420 | i hear ya there man |
| 04:29.14 | Gooser | beer mixes well with life |
| 04:29.17 | sasKuach | bonding doesn't look like it'll help me |
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| 04:29.24 | vladster | out of curiosity, how often is the norme for updating sarge? |
| 04:29.46 | vladster | once a week or once a month |
| 04:29.46 | JosephSpiros | Whenever you want? ;p |
| 04:30.07 | JosephSpiros | When using stable distribution, the only updates you're going to get are security updates |
| 04:30.09 | abrotman | vladster: subscribe to d-s-a .. and the . uhm .. d-a .. so.. basically .. when you get a security notice .. or they release a new version which the next will be 3.1r1 |
| 04:30.13 | vladster | I am just concerned about security patches |
| 04:30.17 | JosephSpiros | so, erm, whenever you need security updates? |
| 04:30.19 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: not totally true |
| 04:30.25 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: no? |
| 04:30.28 | abrotman | vladster: sarge will not really update .. |
| 04:30.33 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: what else are you going to get? :) |
| 04:30.42 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: no .. some RC bugs may get fixed when 3.1r1 gets releases |
| 04:30.46 | abrotman | released |
| 04:30.57 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: oh yeah, new releases like r1 and r2 and so on |
| 04:31.01 | abrotman | vladster: go to security.debian.org .. subscribe |
| 04:31.02 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: I forgot about those :( |
| 04:31.13 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: not really new releases .. updates that fix horrible bugs usually |
| 04:31.14 | vladster | also ok |
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| 04:31.46 | abrotman | JosephSpiros: think .. service pack i guess .. what a horrible analogy |
| 04:31.48 | vladster | k3b has a few bugs but I am not sure if they are critical |
| 04:32.04 | abrotman | vladster: check bugs.debian.org/k3b |
| 04:32.15 | abrotman | the biggest bug is using Qt :) |
| 04:32.29 | sasKuach | so how can I get one program to use dialup, while others use the LAN connection? |
| 04:32.32 | vladster | that is for sure |
| 04:32.44 | Gooser | k3b work greate for me... some bugs |
| 04:32.47 | abrotman | sasKuach: i'm not sure you can |
| 04:32.51 | JosephSpiros | abrotman: ;p |
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| 04:33.04 | sasKuach | shoot... |
| 04:33.06 | vladster | Now all I need to do is figure out how to access my jetdirect printserver |
| 04:33.09 | Gooser | icewm k3b... |
| 04:33.30 | Gooser | wont jetdirects do lpt |
| 04:33.36 | Gooser | lrp |
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| 04:33.51 | Gooser | argh LPR |
| 04:33.53 | Justin420 | abrotman: i forgot the command man |
| 04:34.00 | Justin420 | apt-get install |
| 04:34.02 | abrotman | Justin420: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 04:34.05 | vladster | I need to install a driver though if I am not mistaken for the network service |
| 04:34.08 | Justin420 | sorry and thanks. |
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| 04:34.13 | abrotman | Justin420: s'alright ... |
| 04:34.38 | sasKuach | abrotman: gn, and thanks |
| 04:34.45 | Gooser | their is a common hp printer tools package i think |
| 04:34.55 | Gooser | ttyl |
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| 04:35.21 | secher | Heyas all. I've just installed Wine on my Debian box, and when I try and run winecfg, I get the following "err:listbox:LISTBOX_SetFont unable to get DC. ". I can't find it on the web except where it relates to "ownerdraw paint recursion in listbox". Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 04:36.20 | sasKuach | secher: have you tried 'wineconfig' ? |
| 04:36.32 | sasKuach | secher: er, I mean 'winesetup' ? |
| 04:36.58 | secher | tried winecfg, not setup. lemme try that.. |
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| 04:39.06 | Gooser | has anyone setup a sprint (or other pcmcia cell phone internet card under linux?) they just use ppp from what i can tell? |
| 04:39.38 | sasKuach | Gooser: I think you're right about that |
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| 04:40.10 | ImEatingPringles | hi all. I'm new to debian. Whats a command to display your systems specifications (processor type, speed etc) thanks |
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| 04:40.56 | Gooser | more /proc/cpuinfo |
| 04:41.03 | ImEatingPringles | cool thank you |
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| 04:41.15 | mga | aqui hablan en español? |
| 04:41.16 | Gooser | thats an easy way |
| 04:41.18 | mga | coño |
| 04:41.21 | vladster | is there a setup routine for setting up a print spool that I should know about |
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| 04:43.32 | secher | sasKuach: Kk.. apt-getted it, and run, get the response "no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable". Any idea? |
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| 04:43.55 | secher | NM. |
| 04:44.13 | Justin420 | imeatingpringles: if you wanted a gui to display all sorts of info about whole computer, you may want to look at info center? |
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| 04:44.36 | Warp4 | oh jeez! |
| 04:44.42 | Warp4 | didnt realize i was in the channel that long! |
| 04:46.28 | ImEatingPringles | thanks - is info center a program (probably a really dumb question) |
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| 04:47.34 | Justin420 | i think its is if u got debian sarge |
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| 04:47.43 | ke6isf | !u |
| 04:47.43 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 04:47.55 | Justin420 | i have it in my systems menu |
| 04:48.06 | Justin420 | i click on the little k icon |
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| 04:49.25 | Gooser | argh |
| 04:49.42 | ke6isf | ImEatingPringles: What windowing system are you running (e.g., gnome, KDE, etc)? |
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| 04:50.30 | ImEatingPringles | oic, just googled it. Its a KDE program i think. I'm just running xwindows. thanks though |
| 04:50.44 | DigitalFox | where did the Debian name come from? |
| 04:50.47 | ke6isf | ImEatingPringles: Yes, but are you running gnome, KDE, etc? |
| 04:50.53 | DigitalFox | I know the origins of all the other distro's name |
| 04:50.55 | DigitalFox | names* |
| 04:51.06 | ke6isf | DigitalFox: Yorba Linda, CA? Dunno. |
| 04:51.08 | ImEatingPringles | deb / ian murdoch - husband/wife who made it |
| 04:51.13 | vladster | ok I can't connect to the printer |
| 04:52.02 | ImEatingPringles | ke6isf, i don't think so. it's the GUI that pops up when you type startx in console |
| 04:52.54 | doleyb | ImEatingPringles: that could be anything |
| 04:53.22 | ke6isf | ImEatingPringles: X is just the server. There's invariably something over it - as lightweight as blackbox, or as feature-encrusted as KDE or Gnome. |
| 04:54.06 | ImEatingPringles | doleyb, oic. it's the GUI i got by "apt-get install x-window-system" sorry my answers are probably pretty stupid |
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| 04:54.27 | Wyzard | DigitalFox: Ian Murdock (the founder) and his girlfriend/wife (not sure which) Debra |
| 04:54.51 | DigitalFox | Wyzard: yeh, found that on the site by browsing around :) |
| 04:54.55 | DigitalFox | thanks |
| 04:54.59 | ImEatingPringles | i think they married afterwards. nice story really |
| 04:55.04 | DigitalFox | that's cool :) |
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| 04:56.23 | vladster | client-error-not-possible <== this is what I get when I try to print a test page, does foo need to be installed as well? |
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| 04:58.32 | adit | hi |
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| 04:59.01 | adit | hi......f or m? |
| 05:00.06 | adit | hi......... u f or m? |
| 05:00.29 | ImEatingPringles | who r u talking to? |
| 05:01.00 | adit | g adit, b nimrung ga? |
| 05:01.35 | adit | hi,,,,,,,,, |
| 05:01.56 | adit | ofaojpjs |
| 05:02.23 | ImEatingPringles | hmmmm. just wondering, im upgrading my kernel from 2.4 to 2.6, im at the "menuconfig" step. Does it make sense to link all the options set as modules into the new kernel? |
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| 05:02.55 | adit | where r u from? |
| 05:03.21 | ImEatingPringles | lol what the hell @ adit. stop clowning around |
| 05:04.03 | bob2 | ImEatingPringles: no |
| 05:04.13 | bob2 | there's probably no need to compile a new kernel at all., tho |
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| 05:04.35 | hktk | Hi, all. where from get sarge rescue floppy image? |
| 05:04.46 | deadcat | hktk: use the sarge install cd |
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| 05:05.00 | cisco | buenas noches |
| 05:05.06 | ImEatingPringles | bob2. thanks, im trying to get a logitech webcam working, and the driver (pcw/pcwx) is only for 2.6 |
| 05:05.16 | cisco | hablenme de blender y wings |
| 05:05.23 | deadcat | ImEatingPringles: ya. i dont think hes working on the 2.4 |
| 05:05.54 | hktk | deadcat: how do? |
| 05:05.58 | deadcat | !es |
| 05:05.58 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:06.08 | deadcat | hktk: boot the cd, press F1 to F10 |
| 05:06.09 | bob2 | ImEatingPringles: right, but there are very nice prebuilt 2.6 kernels in Debian |
| 05:06.35 | ImEatingPringles | bob2: really? where do i get them? |
| 05:06.36 | deadcat | http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/debian/ |
| 05:06.54 | ImEatingPringles | deadcat: yeah thats the one |
| 05:06.54 | hktk | deadcat: thanks |
| 05:07.11 | bob2 | ImEatingPringles: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 05:07.39 | deadcat | bob2: the pwc that comes with the default 2.6 doesnt support 600x480 |
| 05:08.02 | bob2 | ah |
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| 05:08.05 | deadcat | ImEatingPringles: and its no longer pwc and pwcx, just pwc |
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| 05:08.34 | ImEatingPringles | bob2: oic, fantastic, won't have to scratch my head over the recompilation step if it works. don't actually care about 600x480, the lesser resolution is fine. thanks guys |
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| 05:08.54 | bob2 | no problem |
| 05:08.56 | ImEatingPringles | deadcat: yeah i know. thanks |
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| 05:09.03 | deadcat | ImEatingPringles: low expectation (= |
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| 05:09.53 | hktk | how many threads debian kernel supported by default? |
| 05:10.04 | vladster | bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission deniedI get this bash error message, any clues? |
| 05:10.05 | bob2 | jillions |
| 05:10.17 | deadcat | whats threads? |
| 05:10.20 | bob2 | !+bad interpreter |
| 05:10.20 | dpkg | well, bad-interpreter is a wrong #! line in a script, or script is in crlf - which is the case, if 'od -b filename|grep 015' returns something; ask me about crlf->unix - or script is not executable (use chmod +x on it), or script is on a partition mounted with the noexec (mounting with "user" implies that) option. |
| 05:10.23 | deadcat | vladster: perm |
| 05:10.28 | bob2 | vladster: ^^ |
| 05:10.34 | bob2 | hktk: it's more a libc6 issue |
| 05:10.38 | vladster | huh/ |
| 05:10.42 | bob2 | on sarge, bajillions |
| 05:10.55 | deadcat | vladster: execute permission |
| 05:10.59 | deadcat | whats threads? |
| 05:11.00 | bob2 | deadcat: the same as a process, but threads share their memoery space |
| 05:11.07 | deadcat | oh thanks |
| 05:11.11 | Jimbob | When building a debian package, where does CFLAGS come from? |
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| 05:11.25 | vladster | this is for UT 2004 |
| 05:11.28 | deadcat | bob2: is that like when you ps -ef and you see lots of firefox-bin thing? |
| 05:11.36 | bob2 | Jimbob: highly package-specific |
| 05:11.43 | Jimbob | bob2: Erm, ok |
| 05:11.47 | bob2 | Jimbob: well, it'll be set in debian/rules |
| 05:11.56 | bob2 | Jimbob: but how the software itself uses it is package-specific |
| 05:12.01 | vladster | is there a cvs package I can use ? |
| 05:12.03 | deadcat | vladster: oh man. i got raped at LWCE playing UT 2004.. only 20 kills. winner was 21 kills )= |
| 05:12.20 | bob2 | vladster: sure, it's called cvs |
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| 05:12.24 | deadcat | ^^ first time playing that game though |
| 05:13.00 | vladster | is there something I can do to patch it in |
| 05:13.02 | hktk | bob2: libc6 of debian sarge supported max threads = ?(default) |
| 05:13.09 | bob2 | vladster: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 05:13.14 | vladster | install it |
| 05:13.19 | bob2 | install what? |
| 05:13.24 | vladster | ut 2004 |
| 05:13.26 | shimano55 | Question, Is there a good Virus/SpyWare scanner that I can get for Linux? |
| 05:13.32 | deadcat | bob2: you want to see the photos for LWCE? |
| 05:13.37 | bob2 | shimano55: you don't need either |
| 05:13.39 | bob2 | deadcat: sure |
| 05:13.45 | deadcat | bob2: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/ |
| 05:13.45 | bob2 | vladster: what does this have to do with cvs? |
| 05:13.50 | shimano55 | bob2, explain |
| 05:13.54 | bob2 | vladster: did you read the factoid above or not? |
| 05:14.06 | bob2 | shimano55: if you don't run random crap from the internet, you won't get either of them |
| 05:14.28 | vladster | if libc6 is not nice, is there an earlier version I can patch in that will play nice |
| 05:14.43 | bob2 | wtf |
| 05:14.53 | bob2 | have you read the factoid or not? |
| 05:14.59 | shimano55 | bob2, cool, thanks |
| 05:15.04 | bob2 | it's highly unlikely this is related to libc6 at all |
| 05:15.16 | bob2 | hktk: I don't know, whatever NTPL limits it at, I assume |
| 05:15.21 | bob2 | hktk: tens of thousands, anyway |
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| 05:16.08 | vladster | issues issues and issues |
| 05:16.12 | shimano55 | Question, Is there anyway to delete any packages that aren't being used, like unnecessary Libs and stuff? |
| 05:16.20 | shimano55 | Or is there no hurt in just keeping em? |
| 05:16.28 | Chiko_Medina_now | gnomemeeting support alsa ? ? ? |
| 05:16.29 | deadcat | shimano55: debfoster or deborphan<tab> |
| 05:16.31 | hktk | bob2: thanks |
| 05:16.34 | deadcat | Chiko_Medina_now: yes |
| 05:16.41 | Chiko_Medina_now | how ?? |
| 05:16.47 | deadcat | Chiko_Medina_now: select alsa |
| 05:16.52 | Chiko_Medina_now | i have installed gnome-meeting |
| 05:17.01 | Chiko_Medina_now | only show oss |
| 05:17.01 | Chiko_Medina_now | :s |
| 05:17.04 | deadcat | Chiko_Medina_now: then run it and config it.. its GUI |
| 05:17.16 | Chiko_Medina_now | only show oss quicknet |
| 05:17.17 | Chiko_Medina_now | :s |
| 05:17.31 | deadcat | Chiko_Medina_now: works here. |
| 05:17.59 | bob2 | vladster: so...you read the bad interpreter solution? |
| 05:18.01 | Chiko_Medina_now | only show oss ,quicknet |
| 05:18.02 | Chiko_Medina_now | :s |
| 05:18.08 | Chiko_Medina_now | alsa is not present |
| 05:18.09 | Chiko_Medina_now | :S |
| 05:18.21 | deadcat | Chiko_Medina_now: stop the :s crap |
| 05:18.23 | Chiko_Medina_now | i use kernel 2.6-11 |
| 05:18.37 | vladster | change permisions? |
| 05:19.15 | Chiko_Medina_now | i need install other packages ?? |
| 05:19.27 | deadcat | Chiko_Medina_now: are you using alsa? |
| 05:19.37 | bob2 | vladster: holy hell |
| 05:19.41 | Chiko_Medina_now | yea |
| 05:19.44 | bob2 | vladster: now, read the next few lines very carefuly |
| 05:19.49 | bob2 | !+bad interpreter |
| 05:19.49 | dpkg | hmm... bad-interpreter is a wrong #! line in a script, or script is in crlf - which is the case, if 'od -b filename|grep 015' returns something; ask me about crlf->unix - or script is not executable (use chmod +x on it), or script is on a partition mounted with the noexec (mounting with "user" implies that) option. |
| 05:19.55 | bob2 | vladster: now follow what the bot said |
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| 05:22.37 | Dameon87 | ok |
| 05:22.45 | Dameon87 | I have a problem |
| 05:23.01 | Dameon87 | Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! |
| 05:23.12 | Dameon87 | I was forwarded here |
| 05:23.17 | bob2 | "forwarded"? |
| 05:23.25 | bob2 | also, you need to provide more details |
| 05:23.30 | Dameon87 | from Mysql support |
| 05:23.31 | Dameon87 | ok |
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| 05:23.32 | Dameon87 | sorry |
| 05:23.33 | bob2 | like whether you have actually installed mysql-server or not |
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| 05:23.46 | Mele|IdW | Tag |
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| 05:24.31 | Dameon87 | ok. Well I just got a new dedicated server and I am running Debian 3.1 and I did apt-get install mysql-server and all but, I get this error when I even run the mysql command: ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 05:24.32 | bob2 | deadcat: hah, didn't know they still had booth babes |
| 05:24.46 | bob2 | is it running? |
| 05:24.50 | deadcat | bob2: oh ya.. |
| 05:24.58 | Dameon87 | it wont start |
| 05:25.06 | sussudio | why would someone have SSH on port 80? |
| 05:25.09 | bob2 | there you go then |
| 05:25.14 | ImEatingPringles | bob2: you just saved me a lot of trouble. the 2.6 kernel works fine. thank heaps |
| 05:25.15 | bob2 | sussudio: to avoid moronic firewalls |
| 05:25.18 | bob2 | ImEatingPringles: np |
| 05:25.18 | deadcat | bob2: i told the debian dudes to take pictures with them but i guess they were shy. (= |
| 05:25.23 | sussudio | :-| |
| 05:25.45 | Gooser | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.48 | bob2 | sussudio: I run it on port 443 so I can get out of places that block everything port 80 and 443 and proxy 80 |
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| 05:25.58 | Gooser | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.59 | bob2 | Dameon87: "wont start" is not very descriptive |
| 05:26.00 | Gooser | oops |
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| 05:26.25 | Dameon87 | -bash: /etc/init.d/mysqld: No such file or directory |
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| 05:26.37 | Gooser | humm |
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| 05:26.55 | sussudio | it's not mysqld, it's just mysql |
| 05:26.56 | sussudio | jesus |
| 05:27.03 | mind | Are there any console tools that will look and connect to a wireless router similiar to wifiradar or gnome network-settings? |
| 05:27.05 | Gooser | yes |
| 05:27.07 | deadcat | sussudio: what up? |
| 05:27.09 | Gooser | thats right |
| 05:27.11 | Gooser | sorry |
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| 05:27.42 | Dameon87 | ok |
| 05:27.45 | Dameon87 | its stopped now |
| 05:27.56 | Dameon87 | /etc/init.d/mysql start ? |
| 05:28.36 | sussudio | :-\ |
| 05:28.47 | Dameon87 | what to do now ? |
| 05:29.10 | deadcat | Dameon87: take a guess. |
| 05:29.20 | Dameon87 | I did start |
| 05:29.24 | Dameon87 | this is the error |
| 05:29.35 | Dameon87 | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. |
| 05:29.37 | Dameon87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.46 | Dameon87 | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 05:29.48 | Dameon87 | error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' |
| 05:29.48 | Dameon87 | Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! |
| 05:30.01 | deadcat | how can this guy NOT get kick/ban ? |
| 05:30.54 | sussudio | and he's on AOL |
| 05:31.01 | deadcat | sussudio: damn. (= |
| 05:31.06 | Dameon87 | temporary connection |
| 05:31.37 | deadcat | the ping command dont seem to work anymore. seems everyone is blocking ping |
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| 05:32.31 | Dameon87 | well can anyone help ? |
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| 05:32.58 | Scorpaen | Dameon87, wassup? |
| 05:33.15 | Dameon87 | mysql is being a pain |
| 05:33.22 | Scorpaen | it can be indeed |
| 05:33.26 | Dameon87 | it refuses to start with the error |
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| 05:33.36 | Dameon87 | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. |
| 05:33.37 | Dameon87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.46 | Dameon87 | /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 05:33.47 | Dameon87 | error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' |
| 05:33.47 | Dameon87 | Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! |
| 05:33.52 | bob2 | Dameon87: stop it |
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| 05:33.55 | bob2 | jesus christ |
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| 05:34.20 | deadcat | bob2: stop calling me (= |
| 05:34.28 | vladster | and away we go |
| 05:34.51 | vladster | it can't be mounted in media |
| 05:35.04 | vladster | has to be mounted in mnt |
| 05:35.16 | pdmillar | Hello. I'm having an odd font problem with a Motif program. I'm unable to figure out why, but the menubars appear to be in the wrong font - http://wgiowrb.net/~slugbug/window.jpg |
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| 05:35.50 | vladster | where do I open the firewall ports to get online with it |
| 05:36.12 | Dameon87 | well......... |
| 05:37.15 | Fangorn | hi all |
| 05:37.58 | bob2 | Dameon87: are you going to stop being so fucking annoying? |
| 05:38.25 | Dameon87 | I am sorry, I have been working on this for hours. |
| 05:38.34 | bob2 | that's awesome |
| 05:38.45 | bob2 | a) using aol almost always implies troll or moron, so you need to work uphill |
| 05:38.49 | deadcat | Dameon87: take a break dude.. stuff sometimes work better that way |
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| 05:38.52 | bob2 | b) pasting shit is not approriate, anywhere |
| 05:39.00 | bob2 | c) you appear to be ignoring the error messages |
| 05:39.13 | deadcat | d) all of the above |
| 05:39.17 | bob2 | you haven\'t told us what syslog said yet |
| 05:39.28 | bob2 | you havn't told us whetehr the socket exists or not yet |
| 05:39.28 | Dameon87 | how do I even look at it? |
| 05:39.35 | bob2 | less /var/log/syslog |
| 05:39.44 | bob2 | shouldn't your sysadmin be doing this then? |
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| 05:39.54 | Dameon87 | I am my sysadmin |
| 05:40.05 | bob2 | and you don't know what a log file is? |
| 05:40.06 | deadcat | oh dear! |
| 05:40.13 | Dameon87 | I have never had this problem before |
| 05:40.21 | Dameon87 | I know what a log file is |
| 05:40.40 | bob2 | so, read your syslog log file |
| 05:41.15 | ArtistAgent | a plastic knife |
| 05:41.16 | deadcat | i've been bitching about this all along, people should learn some basic unix commands before being the man and run daemons like mail,sql,webserver or compile a goddamn kernel. |
| 05:41.21 | ArtistAgent | so its non lethal |
| 05:41.51 | deadcat | ArtistAgent: you're suppose to cut the attention with a funny accient. (= |
| 05:42.03 | ArtistAgent | lol |
| 05:42.05 | xoz | deadcat: and check /va/log/mysql/ or /var/log/mysql.err |
| 05:42.18 | ArtistAgent | (laughs out loud) |
| 05:42.28 | deadcat | xoz: i dont use sql. i prefer plain old text |
| 05:42.34 | Dameon87 | Aug 13 07:36:50 u15191110 exiting on signal 15 |
| 05:42.34 | deadcat | ArtistAgent: good eh? (= |
| 05:42.39 | Dameon87 | thats all I have |
| 05:42.52 | xoz | Dameon87: and check /va/log/mysql/ or /var/log/mysql.err |
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| 05:43.00 | ArtistAgent | no doubt deadcat! |
| 05:43.03 | xoz | deadcat: bad tab completion |
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| 05:44.06 | Dameon87 | ok /var/log/mysql.err is empty and the other does not exist |
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| 05:44.51 | xoz | Dameon87: have you checked if you have configured properly /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 05:44.52 | bob2 | syslog really only has one line in it? |
| 05:45.16 | Dameon87 | that and restart |
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| 05:46.10 | bob2 | that seems womewhat unlikely |
| 05:46.16 | bob2 | paste both lines here, in their entirity |
| 05:47.32 | xoz | unless he messed up his my.cnf |
| 05:47.32 | Dameon87 | Aug 13 07:36:50 u15191110 exiting on signal 15 |
| 05:47.32 | Dameon87 | Aug 13 07:37:35 u15191110 syslogd 1.4.1#17: restart. |
| 05:47.39 | bob2 | 15:39:20 bob2 | you havn't told us whetehr the socket exists or not yet |
| 05:47.51 | Dameon87 | the file does not exist |
| 05:49.16 | Dameon87 | stat: cannot stat `/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock': No such file or directory |
| 05:49.19 | Scorpaen | can anyone recommend a guide for setting up frambuffer console? |
| 05:49.55 | bob2 | best to avoid FB entirely |
| 05:49.57 | bob2 | and juste use X |
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| 05:51.17 | sparr_ | bob2: without fb its difficult to get good console resolutions |
| 05:51.58 | Dameon87 | bob2: Any idea ? |
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| 05:59.11 | deadcat | i am on freeshell.org and the date is showing Sat Aug 13 05:57:54 2005, is it possible to set my local date (11pm) for my account? |
| 06:00.08 | deadcat | i mean the sysadmin is a moron? the machines are located in westcoast or texas.. |
| 06:01.08 | vladster | Now all I need to try my home and see if it works |
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| 06:02.57 | neco-chan | hi |
| 06:03.30 | neco-chan | can someone help me with samba? I'd like to access my windows machine from linux with samba, I tried smb://<computer name> but that gave me an error. |
| 06:04.19 | nvz | neco-chan: oh wow, thanks for all that information it really helped me know enough about your issue to answer... |
| 06:04.24 | nvz | I have no idea |
| 06:04.31 | nvz | thats my answer |
| 06:04.51 | Dameon87 | why is everyone in here a dickhead ? |
| 06:04.51 | neco-chan | well, I was making sure I wasn't doing something completely wrong you know. |
| 06:05.08 | nvz | could be completly wrong |
| 06:05.11 | neco-chan | well, he anti dickheaded himself afterwards so I forgive him ^__^ |
| 06:05.20 | neco-chan | mostly >=D |
| 06:05.25 | nvz | depending on what you were typing that into and what the error was |
| 06:05.55 | nvz | nautilus and maybe konqueror I really dont know.. accept similar things when their vfs componants are installed |
| 06:06.14 | nvz | but you were not specific at all |
| 06:06.22 | liable | neco-chan: can you see it with smbclient -L computername? |
| 06:06.22 | Scorpaen | neco-chan, ddid you try via ip address? maybe you dont have that computer name in you hosts file |
| 06:06.26 | neco-chan | hmm, I get an "internal error". |
| 06:06.35 | neco-chan | okay, I'll try that scorpaen, thanks. |
| 06:07.01 | Scorpaen | neco-chan, using KDE? |
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| 06:07.31 | neco-chan | yeah |
| 06:07.45 | neco-chan | I still get an internal error... I think I misconfigured my network or something. |
| 06:08.00 | neco-chan | fresh install of suse 9.3 (I was running debian a couple hours ago) |
| 06:08.15 | deadcat | neco-chan: then what you doing here? (= |
| 06:08.26 | neco-chan | lol, because I was running debian a couple hours ago |
| 06:08.27 | deadcat | neco-chan: have you tried opensuse? or the 10.something. |
| 06:08.34 | neco-chan | it is opensuse |
| 06:08.36 | deadcat | neco-chan: time to move on (= |
| 06:08.39 | neco-chan | got the disc at linux world :) |
| 06:08.50 | deadcat | neco-chan: ah.. was just there |
| 06:08.53 | nvz | I am fuck as drunk and I knew he wasn't going to get help the minute he walked in here and asked that vague question |
| 06:08.56 | neco-chan | it should be most recent version... |
| 06:09.05 | neco-chan | did you win anything? |
| 06:09.08 | nvz | I swapped those two words on purpose by the way |
| 06:09.11 | neco-chan | I got the 4 gb usb flash drive hehe. |
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| 06:09.32 | deadcat | neco-chan: ya. the redhat chocolate bar with a golden ticket (ibm bag, ibm 128ram usb, ibm wifi finder, ibm tshirt) |
| 06:09.37 | neco-chan | nvz: lol, shutup maybe? |
| 06:09.38 | neco-chan | :3 |
| 06:09.47 | neco-chan | oooh, nice. |
| 06:09.56 | neco-chan | I did not get a golden ticket though I got quite a bit of chocolate. |
| 06:10.02 | deadcat | neco-chan: the photos are good too. |
| 06:10.12 | nvz | I am fungry |
| 06:10.20 | neco-chan | lol, I feel bad for getting the 4gb flash drive, I saw the spotters walking away from novell booth |
| 06:10.20 | deadcat | neco-chan: i should have won the damn ipods.. damn |
| 06:10.25 | neco-chan | they were going to overlook me, but I bugged them |
| 06:10.47 | deadcat | neco-chan: you fucker (= |
| 06:10.48 | neco-chan | and then they asked me a question regarding novell and I just so happened to know the answer from overhearing it during one of the novell presentations lol. |
| 06:10.59 | neco-chan | I also saw the psp people, I SOO should have stalked them arrg >__< |
| 06:11.00 | deadcat | hahah |
| 06:11.12 | deadcat | neco-chan: you got pictures? |
| 06:11.13 | neco-chan | well, I'm happy with what Ih ave :) |
| 06:11.19 | neco-chan | I don't have any pictures I'm afraid :( |
| 06:11.24 | deadcat | )= |
| 06:11.26 | neco-chan | how did your pictures turn out? |
| 06:11.33 | deadcat | neco-chan: xxxcellent (= |
| 06:11.53 | deadcat | neco-chan: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/ |
| 06:11.54 | neco-chan | oooh :3 |
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| 06:12.19 | neco-chan | oh yes, I also got a copy of opensuse 9.3 pro in the box :D |
| 06:12.22 | neco-chan | can't believe I won that |
| 06:12.28 | neco-chan | had a better chance of winning the ipod too >__< |
| 06:12.31 | neco-chan | but I didn't ;___; |
| 06:12.31 | liable | is that supposed to be a pair of eyes. and large breasts? |
| 06:12.53 | neco-chan | deadcat: you were at debian booth? |
| 06:12.57 | neco-chan | I don't remember seeing you. |
| 06:12.59 | deadcat | liable: those are his tits (= |
| 06:13.03 | vladster | My regular user does not have a complete gnome setup |
| 06:13.12 | deadcat | neco-chan: no i didnt feel the vibe )= |
| 06:13.19 | vladster | is ther a script I can run to fix that |
| 06:13.31 | neco-chan | huh? |
| 06:13.32 | neco-chan | lol |
| 06:13.34 | deadcat | vladster: just cp it from somewhere. |
| 06:13.41 | vladster | Gnome is only partially there |
| 06:13.43 | liable | deadcat: hey, you have a picture of gnea? |
| 06:13.44 | neco-chan | I just remember the guy who kept typing on the ground in front of the debian booth |
| 06:13.49 | neco-chan | and the guy who had the fancy keyboard |
| 06:13.50 | deadcat | neco-chan: they dont seem to want to talk to me or something.. so i dont want to feel like a moron |
| 06:13.52 | neco-chan | I bugged him about not using dvorak. |
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| 06:14.07 | neco-chan | awwww :( |
| 06:14.17 | deadcat | liable: yes/no, gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_2031.jpg hes in the ascii webcam (= |
| 06:14.20 | neco-chan | I'll talk to you next year ^__^ |
| 06:14.34 | deadcat | neco-chan: hahaha. i wont be a volunteer. |
| 06:14.54 | deadcat | neco-chan: its more fun talking and taking pictures with the girls anyway (= |
| 06:14.59 | neco-chan | lol |
| 06:15.04 | neco-chan | I thought those girls were kinda scary looking. |
| 06:15.05 | liable | deadcat: the big dude? |
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| 06:15.09 | neco-chan | I saw them race at the unisys booth. |
| 06:15.38 | neco-chan | are the pictures of the "nerds" like, famous people? |
| 06:15.47 | deadcat | liable: i think so. saw him on thur but i didnt take any pic of the debian booth on thur. that long hair dude is don |
| 06:15.51 | neco-chan | pardon me suing that term. |
| 06:16.01 | deadcat | neco-chan: ya me. (=. but not nerd. geek hahaha |
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| 06:16.17 | neco-chan | lol, no I mean like |
| 06:16.22 | neco-chan | this guy http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_2006.jpg |
| 06:16.33 | liable | deadcat: shit, he's a big motherfucker. should be a bouncer. :P |
| 06:16.36 | neco-chan | wait.. two people >__< |
| 06:16.42 | deadcat | neco-chan: thats my friend. |
| 06:16.46 | neco-chan | ah, I see. |
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| 06:18.11 | TwistedEmotions | liable: See you at the Picnic ;) |
| 06:18.27 | liable | TwistedEmotions: :( to far for me to go! |
| 06:19.26 | TwistedEmotions | liable: I do home deliveries ;) |
| 06:19.26 | deadcat | HAHAHAH |
| 06:19.26 | liable | haha |
| 06:19.27 | liable | better still be hot when it gets here! |
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| 06:20.32 | TwistedEmotions | liable: Bouncers somehow manage to keep warm during deliveries ;) |
| 06:20.32 | deadcat | HAHHAHA |
| 06:20.32 | liable | TwistedEmotions: wtf, is that you in the photo, that deadcat gave me? |
| 06:20.50 | liable | ?? |
| 06:20.56 | deadcat | ^^ angrily... |
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| 06:20.57 | liable | why angrily? |
| 06:21.32 | liable | um, I asked for a photo of gnea, not fucking TwistedEmotions |
| 06:21.48 | liable | ! |
| 06:22.06 | TwistedEmotions | liable: lets hope you never meet me ;) |
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| 06:22.23 | liable | TwistedEmotions: yeah, I hope not! |
| 06:22.33 | deadcat | liable: ya. i showed you this http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_2031.jpg hes the one in the ascii webcam |
| 06:22.52 | liable | deadcat: I said gnea, not TwistedEmotions! |
| 06:23.23 | deadcat | liable: ya. Gnea IS one of the dude in the ascii webcam. i am the middle dude |
| 06:23.26 | liable | TwistedEmotions: anyway, wtf bad did I say about you anyway? I said you were one big motherfucker! Whats bad about that? |
| 06:23.52 | liable | deadcat: theres only two people in it! |
| 06:24.03 | TwistedEmotions | liable: Nothing.. no read need to worry... I suppose. |
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| 06:24.08 | deadcat | liable: are you people blind? |
| 06:24.19 | liable | deadcat: ok two and a half! |
| 06:24.32 | TwistedEmotions | liable: Am only kidding... |
| 06:24.34 | deadcat | liable: Gnea might be the half. i dont remember. let me check his log |
| 06:24.43 | liable | TwistedEmotions: I am not worried, just wondering wtf you thought I said, that was so bad! |
| 06:24.59 | deadcat | 11:16 <Gnea> ah yeah, on the asciicam i'm on the left (right on the pic) |
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| 06:25.19 | TwistedEmotions | liable: ;) ...I dont eat people... was just messing around... |
| 06:25.36 | TwistedEmotions | liable: your not coming to the picnic? Where do you live? |
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| 06:25.38 | deadcat | neco-chan: you going to the picnic? |
| 06:25.39 | liable | TwistedEmotions: well, its gnea I am talking about anyway, |
| 06:25.46 | liable | TwistedEmotions: .au |
| 06:25.57 | TwistedEmotions | liable: Errr... way too far away. |
| 06:26.08 | TwistedEmotions | liable: Ill send you some burgers. |
| 06:26.11 | deadcat | liable: hes right on the pic |
| 06:26.18 | liable | fucking hell, wish I was half that size, i'm 5'5" |
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| 06:28.34 | liable | well, fucked if I care now anyway. :P |
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| 06:28.49 | deadcat | liable: then why the fuck you ask? what the fuck |
| 06:29.02 | deadcat | liable: your mood changes faster than a girl.. what a bitch |
| 06:29.17 | liable | deadcat: haha, fuck you! |
| 06:29.31 | deadcat | liable: bring it bitch. you know i am into that kinky shit |
| 06:29.38 | liable | hehe |
| 06:29.58 | liable | I'll see if I can hire a tux suit |
| 06:30.02 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you can watch. or record so i can post that shit (= |
| 06:30.15 | deadcat | liable: ya. now we talking. |
| 06:30.21 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah... Ill put it on www.catfights.com |
| 06:30.34 | deadcat | haha |
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| 06:33.26 | ke6isf | holy shit, it's stopped being #debian and become #jerry-springer. |
| 06:33.50 | liable | well, cant have just joins and quits on screen :P |
| 06:34.10 | ke6isf | liable: You mean there's more to IRC than watching people join and part? =^_^= |
| 06:34.33 | liable | yeah, abusing others :P |
| 06:34.58 | deadcat | ke6isf: what you gonna do? cry like a little bitch? |
| 06:34.59 | ke6isf | Who knew! |
| 06:35.03 | liable | it fills my screen with pretty colours too.. |
| 06:35.12 | ke6isf | deadcat: Talk to the paw, cause the muzzle don't wanna hear it no mo'! |
| 06:35.26 | deadcat | ke6isf: thats SO 90's |
| 06:35.59 | ke6isf | deadcat: Meh. I feel a bit anacronistic tonight. =^^= |
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| 06:36.51 | liable | !dict anacronistic |
| 06:36.53 | dpkg | could not find definition for anacronistic |
| 06:37.07 | deadcat | ke6isf: no you just not up to date |
| 06:37.08 | liable | ke6isf: you making up words? |
| 06:37.16 | ke6isf | !dict anachronistic |
| 06:37.18 | dpkg | could not find definition for anachronistic |
| 06:37.27 | liable | guess so.. |
| 06:37.29 | ke6isf | liable: Not really. |
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| 06:37.51 | ke6isf | anacronism would lend itself to becoming "anacronistic" as a valid adjective form. |
| 06:38.09 | ke6isf | Of course, I could be spelling it wrong... |
| 06:38.27 | liable | oh, old fashioned? |
| 06:38.34 | ke6isf | liable: Yeah. |
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| 06:38.39 | ke6isf | deadcat: Holy shit, you're right! |
| 06:38.53 | deadcat | ke6isf: about what? because i am almost always right |
| 06:39.05 | ke6isf | deadcat: I AM out of date! |
| 06:39.06 | liable | jesus... |
| 06:39.15 | deadcat | liable: what? i am quite busy at the moment! |
| 06:39.40 | liable | deadcat: i didnt ring your bell.. :P |
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| 06:39.48 | deadcat | 23:38 < liable> jesus... |
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| 06:41.15 | liable | deadcat: yeah, that was in response to your previous statement. But I didnt ask for a reply, so you can go back to being busy doing whatever you were doing. |
| 06:41.26 | liable | :P |
| 06:41.53 | deadcat | liable: i thought you were calling me.. |
| 06:42.01 | liable | oh ffs.. |
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| 06:42.21 | deadcat | dude. people known to call me jesus or jesus christ sometimes (= |
| 06:42.29 | liable | hahaha |
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| 06:43.41 | empty_mind | i am installing sarge stable ona machine. My hardware needs some driver which i obtained from my vendor (raid driver). Now how do i build a modules cd so that i can choose to load modules from cd during installtion in expert mode |
| 06:44.02 | empty_mind | no floppy driver on my machine |
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| 06:44.09 | liable | !custom d-i |
| 06:44.10 | dpkg | well, custom d-i is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt |
| 06:44.20 | liable | but.. alioth is down.. |
| 06:47.46 | liable | !hi |
| 06:47.46 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 06:48.48 | liable | how much does the time change from one side of america, to the other? |
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| 06:50.22 | nvz | deadcat: but only when they want something right? |
| 06:50.52 | Zomb | nvz: afaik there are for zones |
| 06:50.57 | nvz | fuckin cristians.. always talking about gods will then praying for things and expecting his will to change |
| 06:51.12 | nvz | Zomb: wtf are you talking about? |
| 06:51.24 | Zomb | liable: afaik there are for zones |
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| 06:51.35 | liable | so four hours diff? |
| 06:51.35 | Zomb | nvz: man fuzzy_reading |
| 06:51.54 | nvz | fuzzy_spelling too |
| 06:51.57 | Zomb | liable: uhm, 4-1=... |
| 06:52.19 | liable | three? |
| 06:52.39 | liable | what is it irt gmt? |
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| 06:53.01 | liable | GMT minus how much |
| 06:53.15 | Zomb | liable: this is #debian, not #wikipedia |
| 06:53.55 | liable | Zomb: indeed, watching quit messages is quite forfilling :P |
| 06:54.16 | liable | or however you spell that.. |
| 06:54.46 | nvz | !yinzersmite liable |
| 06:54.48 | ke6isf | liable: http://www.time.gov |
| 06:55.00 | liable | thanks. |
| 06:55.10 | deadcat | nvz: whats taht? 23:50 < nvz> deadcat: but only when they want something right? |
| 06:55.10 | ke6isf | liable: Lists all tz's in the US of A. |
| 06:55.23 | nvz | deadcat: you said sometimes people call you jesus |
| 06:55.44 | deadcat | nvz: oh ya (= hahaha.... |
| 06:56.02 | deadcat | nvz: actually they just say jesus. i just assume they calling me heh |
| 06:56.30 | liable | so gmt -5 roughly for those that are interested. |
| 06:56.48 | liable | which is prolly just me.. |
| 06:56.49 | deadcat | neco-chan: if you going to the picnic on sunday. can you bring the 4gig flashdrive,? i want to check it out (= |
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| 06:58.18 | nvz | yeah well just remember you arent the only son of god. but nevermind them. their cries for help will be silenced by gods will be done |
| 06:58.47 | deadcat | dont have to son of god to be jesus (= you can just be crazy |
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| 06:59.35 | liable | dillusional I think is the word :P |
| 06:59.51 | deadcat | i use 'nut job' |
| 06:59.59 | liable | heh |
| 07:00.11 | nvz | you'd have to be fucking crazy to believe anything that was fired from the modern day holy cannon |
| 07:01.02 | liable | hmm, I dont know whether its ever been believable, but thats for another channel. |
| 07:01.13 | nvz | heh |
| 07:01.44 | deadcat | you notice i kept asking neco-chan to go to the picnic and bring his 4gig flash drive, what he doesnt know is that my buddy and i gonna rob him (= shhhh |
| 07:01.59 | liable | :) |
| 07:02.12 | Cyis | what are you going on about now deadcat :) |
| 07:02.22 | nvz | I'd have to steal a 4gig flash drive, cause I surely would never buy one |
| 07:02.42 | deadcat | Cyis: rob neco-chan's 4gig flash drive which he won from LWCE (= |
| 07:02.51 | nvz | flash doesnt last forever and 4gig would probably cost way too much for temporary removable storage |
| 07:03.28 | Cyis | nvz: would just need to treat it more like a WORM drive... it'll last longer that way |
| 07:03.43 | deadcat | flash drive is usb flash drive or compact flash drive? |
| 07:04.30 | liable | compact flash card? |
| 07:05.06 | liable | !confuse me |
| 07:05.07 | dpkg | Yes, them was their hamster yesterday, liable? wellies of the dictatorship of swaziland with extra herring |
| 07:05.23 | ke6isf | deadcat: Given the context, a usb flash drive. |
| 07:05.23 | nvz | !worm |
| 07:05.23 | deadcat | oh. |
| 07:05.23 | ke6isf | nvz: Write Once Read Many. |
| 07:05.23 | Cyis | nvz: I know it's not a worm.. I meant what ke6isf pick'd up... |
| 07:05.23 | nvz | fuck that :P |
| 07:05.23 | deadcat | if i have a 4gig compact flash drive and one of those small machines that uses CF cards i would run a nice webserver to host my gallery so i can turn my desktop off when i go to sleep )= |
| 07:05.24 | Cyis | the fewer writes you make the longer it lasts |
| 07:05.24 | dpkg | rumour has it, worm is (Write Once Read Many) This is a type of drive/media that allows you to write to it permanently. However, you cannot erase what you've written. CD-R is a form of WORM drive. |
| 07:05.37 | kadigibox | Is there a site that I can look for different parts and see if they are compatible? |
| 07:06.07 | Cyis | I can't see using a 4GB flash drive... |
| 07:06.13 | Cyis | my 256MB is enough |
| 07:06.22 | liable | kadigibox: different parts of what? |
| 07:06.35 | kadigibox | Hardware |
| 07:07.14 | valdyn | kadigibox: not really. |
| 07:07.33 | ke6isf | I can see why, but I wonder how one would coordinate such an effort with no funding.... =O.o= |
| 07:07.37 | liable | oh, I think someone once said that mandrake? had a fairly good hcl. |
| 07:07.41 | kadigibox | then how do you find what to buy that will work on linux |
| 07:07.47 | ke6isf | !hcl |
| 07:07.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/ |
| 07:07.57 | kadigibox | I am getting sick of buying parts just to find they will not work on linux what so ever |
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| 07:08.15 | ke6isf | kadigibox: Ah, you want the hardware compatibility list then. |
| 07:08.19 | ke6isf | !tell kadigibox -about hcl |
| 07:08.30 | kadigibox | DUH thats what I asked for |
| 07:08.30 | valdyn | kadigibox: you can ask your vendor, you can google for your part. the hcl is ok, goes only so far though.. |
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| 07:08.57 | ke6isf | kadigibox: No, you asked for a site to see mutual compatibility between different devices, based on your quote at 00:05 PDT. |
| 07:08.58 | liable | kadigibox: best bet, is to see what bit you want, and simply google. |
| 07:09.00 | kadigibox | no I want to know parts beforehand not find part names and google for them and do alot of driveing |
| 07:09.06 | idis_ | is there a good terminal rss reader which keeps history? |
| 07:09.08 | gilv | is there a command to convert rtf files from rtf to text ? |
| 07:09.49 | valdyn | !find rtf2text |
| 07:09.57 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'rtf2text' (1): (/usr/share/doc/steptalk/examples/AppKit/rtf2text.st) in libs/steptalk. |
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| 07:10.49 | kadigibox | well thanks anyway I got what I was trying to find |
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| 07:11.26 | jair | guys do you know if with debian is possible to add the script that make the usb flash drives work as a hotplog? |
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| 07:11.43 | basix | hi people. i have a problem with my network card. its a realtek 8139 10/100Mbps NIC. It uses the 8139too driver. Whenever I try to ping any machine, i get this error: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out and the ping fails with "Destination Host Unreachable". How do I resolve it?? |
| 07:11.45 | liable | usbmount? |
| 07:11.50 | valdyn | jair: several tools providing this exisat in debian |
| 07:12.46 | liable | basix: does the card show up in ifconfig? |
| 07:12.54 | valdyn | jair: apt-cache show usbmount gives info even about alternatives |
| 07:13.12 | jair | liable I saw one that when you insert the usb flash drive or camara digital with memory stick, it appear am icon with the usb picture and then you have user permits to write and read |
| 07:13.28 | basix | liable, yup. it sure does and i have even configured it. |
| 07:13.31 | valdyn | jair: in gnome? |
| 07:13.33 | zorton | Dameon87: we all do son, we all do :) |
| 07:13.37 | liable | jair: pssibly gnome-volume-manager |
| 07:13.44 | jair | valdyn KDE |
| 07:14.05 | liable | basix: ok, so it has an ip and everything/ |
| 07:14.05 | jair | no guys this is in kde |
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| 07:14.24 | jair | I do not use gnome. |
| 07:14.27 | basix | liable, yup. if i ping it's ip from the same machine it works |
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| 07:14.39 | goldfish | GregM: Yes? |
| 07:14.40 | liable | jair: I dont know of anything that does that in kde |
| 07:15.12 | marccd | how would I create a file that has Index: main.c, that doesnt require two different files?, I just want to have a patch that only adds/remove from one file, not using another as a reference, -u didnt seem to do that |
| 07:15.15 | liable | basix: oh, but you cant ping the network and the network cant ping it? |
| 07:15.17 | marccd | a patch I mean |
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| 07:15.48 | basix | liable, yes. and the card is working and stuff cuz i was using it in another machine. |
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| 07:16.42 | liable | basix: I dont know what that netdev watchdog stuff is, but sounds like iptables blocking maybe. Dunno, I havent ever seen it. |
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| 07:17.09 | jair | liable and valdyn so then that is on gnome the apt-cache shpw usbmount |
| 07:17.10 | jair | ? |
| 07:17.24 | basix | liable, ok :(. if it helps i am using debian sarge with the 2.6 kernel |
| 07:17.44 | valdyn | jair: usbmount is agnostic to your desktop environment and does not make icons show up for the plugged in storage device. |
| 07:17.51 | liable | basix: have you googled for that error? |
| 07:17.56 | marccd | how would I create a file that has Index: main.c, that doesnt require two different files?, I just want to have a patch that only adds/remove from one file, not using another as a reference, -u didnt seem to do that.. A patch with diff I mean |
| 07:17.56 | Scorpaen | where is packages config file? |
| 07:18.09 | Scorpaen | brain fart. |
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| 07:18.19 | liable | hah |
| 07:18.24 | jair | valdyn so them it is not the one I have seen |
| 07:18.25 | Scorpaen | c'mon. someone knows |
| 07:18.35 | jair | valdyn the one I saw was in a sid |
| 07:18.37 | liable | Scorpaen: generally in /etc |
| 07:18.39 | jair | debian sid |
| 07:18.53 | jair | but it should work work in the other flavors |
| 07:19.05 | liable | jair: and it made an icon and automounted it? |
| 07:19.25 | jair | liable yes, on the kde desktop |
| 07:19.28 | valdyn | jair: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19107.html , gnome-volume-manager works under kde aswell it seems |
| 07:19.38 | liable | jair: ask whoever, you saw this app on there box.. |
| 07:19.40 | jair | valdyn hmmm |
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| 07:19.59 | basix | liable, yes. its quite a weird error and mostly related to the driver.. |
| 07:20.10 | jair | it is kano the guys that creates "kanotix" distribution base on sid |
| 07:20.30 | jair | I though that you guys have see that |
| 07:20.42 | marccd | FUCK YOU ALL |
| 07:20.44 | liable | basix: oh, ok, does it work with 2.4, I remember someone asking about that card the other day too. |
| 07:20.53 | liable | !customer |
| 07:20.53 | dpkg | another happy customer leaves the building |
| 07:20.57 | jair | I will investigate and the if I implement it I will let you know for the dpkg bot |
| 07:20.58 | DjKritical | lol @ marccd |
| 07:21.00 | jkaufman | hehe |
| 07:21.08 | basix | liable, i havent tried using that kernel |
| 07:21.20 | liable | basix: give it a go then. |
| 07:21.29 | jkaufman | abrotman: do you happen to be around? |
| 07:21.29 | basix | liable, infact i havent installed the kernel |
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| 07:22.18 | Scorpaen | ok i found my packages file |
| 07:22.22 | Scorpaen | how do i add testing to it? |
| 07:22.22 | basix | liable, i have LILO installed. will it be automatically updated if i do a apt-get for the kernel??? |
| 07:22.32 | Scorpaen | jsut put at hte end of the line in packages? |
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| 07:23.03 | Scorpaen | or could someone give me a url? |
| 07:23.05 | liable | basix: I dont use lilo. but I think dpkg tells you what you need to do. |
| 07:23.40 | basix | liable, http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/2/27/166 that guy has a similar problem. the only difference is that his card atleast works. mine doesnt |
| 07:24.07 | valdyn | Scorpaen: which 'packages' file? |
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| 07:24.18 | valdyn | Scorpaen: you mean /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 07:25.28 | liable | basix: dunno. sorry, see if 2.4 works, obviously a borked driver.. |
| 07:26.00 | Pezz453 | Scorpaen: I was actually just getting ready to ask a similar question. Im looking for deb source urls to place in my source.list |
| 07:26.09 | liable | basix: or maybe a newer 2.6 kernel.. |
| 07:26.22 | liable | Pezz453: apt-setup |
| 07:26.23 | valdyn | Pezz453: run apt-setup |
| 07:26.32 | valdyn | !lose |
| 07:26.33 | dpkg | somebody said lose was see windows. |
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| 07:27.05 | Scorpaen | yes |
| 07:27.07 | Pezz453 | liable: valdyn: wonderful, thanks. |
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| 07:27.50 | liable | basix: get grub too, while your at it :) |
| 07:28.08 | empyt_mind | during debian installation how do i load a module no present on official d-i, but available on another cd |
| 07:28.43 | liable | a module? |
| 07:28.53 | basix | liable, ok |
| 07:28.54 | valdyn | empyt_mind: beside the fact that you cannot randomly mix modules compiled for different kernels, Alt-F2, mount the cd, load that module. |
| 07:29.18 | valdyn | empyt_mind: maybe what you really want to try is 'linux26' at the bootprompt |
| 07:29.57 | Scorpaen | apt-setup mentions nothing about adding unstable to sources |
| 07:30.03 | valdyn | Scorpaen: why do you want to run unstable? |
| 07:30.35 | liable | !sid faq |
| 07:30.35 | dpkg | i heard sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 07:30.43 | empyt_mind | i have a raid driver module, which i wan tot laod at install time do that my raid hardware is detected and i can proceed with installation |
| 07:30.44 | liable | Scorpaen: read it ^^ |
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| 07:31.21 | valdyn | empyt_mind: it would obviously be useful if you told us what hardware that is. |
| 07:31.34 | liable | empyt_mind: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 07:31.37 | empyt_mind | now debian sarge installer is not offering you an option ot load a module from floppy or cd or usb during installation time even in expert mode |
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| 07:31.58 | empyt_mind | valdyn: i have a highpoitn rocket raid 454 |
| 07:32.04 | basix | liable, i was just poking around and i unloaded and reloaded the module(8139too). When I then tried configuring eth0, it gave a lot of output. At the begining of the output it said "Nobody cared!", and at the end it said "disabling IRQ 10". Thats my card's IRQ |
| 07:32.08 | empyt_mind | it is an ata raid |
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| 07:33.00 | empyt_mind | valdyn: debian installer laods hpt366 module which is not working properly. High point has realease d an opensource driver called hpt374, which works with kernel 2.6 |
| 07:33.15 | liable | basix: ewww. |
| 07:33.21 | empyt_mind | i wan tto load hpt374 at install time so that hpt366 will not be loaded |
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| 07:33.40 | liable | basix: really, try 2.4 and see if it works. |
| 07:33.44 | valdyn | empyt_mind: read that faq you got pointed to, its not a raid controller either way. |
| 07:33.46 | NewBian | Hi i just installed sarge on my laptop. but i only get a screen resolution of 800x600. how do i configure my resolution? |
| 07:34.06 | liable | !drxx NewBian |
| 07:34.07 | dpkg | NewBian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:34.08 | valdyn | !drxx NewBian |
| 07:34.13 | valdyn | hehe |
| 07:34.19 | liable | !win me |
| 07:34.20 | dpkg | Congratulations, liable! You have won a one way ticket to Cuba! |
| 07:34.30 | liable | ooh, cigars! |
| 07:34.43 | liable | or coke :P |
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| 07:34.56 | empyt_mind | valdyn: i have already read it. Infact a link in that doc pointed me to highpoint site having appropritae driver |
| 07:35.30 | empyt_mind | i just want to know is ti possible to laod 3rd party driver in debian at install time like you can do with suse or redhat |
| 07:35.44 | basix | liable, it worked! I poked around the BIOS and edited some stuff and it worked! My machine is now answering the pings! Its just SO beautiful :*) |
| 07:35.53 | valdyn | empyt_mind: you can do it as i said above... |
| 07:35.55 | liable | basix: :) |
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| 07:36.31 | liable | redhat and suse let you do that? |
| 07:37.19 | deadcat | 00:36 -hifriend:#debian- lol g, join #bantown and get banned u fuqn JEWS [SOLLOG KNEW BANTOWN WOULD WIN]. #debian SUCKS |
| 07:37.25 | deadcat | what the hell was that? |
| 07:37.27 | siab9 | that's great |
| 07:37.28 | deadcat | hes purple |
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| 07:37.33 | liable | some sad wanker... |
| 07:37.40 | GregM | indeed |
| 07:38.29 | deepz | i need to enable lvs support in kernel 2.6.8 debian |
| 07:38.33 | deepz | how do i do it |
| 07:38.41 | liable | deadcat: yeah, he's purple here too.. |
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| 07:38.56 | siab9 | Why am I K-Lined at us.undernet.org anybody? |
| 07:39.13 | deadcat | liable: first time i see that in irssi |
| 07:39.16 | liable | siab9: try #freenode |
| 07:39.21 | SimonRaven | @ops hifriend (n=hifriend@vex.dreamhost.com) please ban, fascist troll |
| 07:39.45 | SimonRaven | ops hifriend (n=hifriend@vex.dreamhost.com) please ban, fascist troll |
| 07:39.48 | SimonRaven | !ops hifriend (n=hifriend@vex.dreamhost.com) please ban, fascist troll |
| 07:39.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: hifriend (n=hifriend@vex.dreamhost.com) please ban, fascist troll |
| 07:39.51 | liable | siab9: and hope they give you voice |
| 07:39.52 | SimonRaven | sorry |
| 07:39.54 | SJr|Tecra | Where can I get an updated acceptable sources.list file |
| 07:39.55 | SJr|Tecra | ? |
| 07:40.05 | SimonRaven | SJr|Tecra: apt-setup |
| 07:40.11 | deadcat | haha. dreamhost.com, i have a subdomain there. they are a hosting company |
| 07:40.17 | deepz | guys anyboduy in lvs |
| 07:40.27 | liable | !lvs |
| 07:40.27 | dpkg | hmm... lvs is Linux Virtual Server is a highly scalable and highly available server built on a cluster of real servers, or http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/ |
| 07:40.37 | SimonRaven | figure. seen a lot of spam from colocs lately |
| 07:40.45 | SimonRaven | figures* |
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| 07:41.01 | liable | whats a colocs? |
| 07:41.27 | SimonRaven | colocation/colocated sites |
| 07:41.33 | SJr|Tecra | thanks SimonRaven |
| 07:41.36 | SimonRaven | coloc, pl. colocs |
| 07:41.44 | liable | SimonRaven: ah, was thinking that, but.. |
| 07:41.46 | SimonRaven | ;p |
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| 07:46.46 | shimano55 | Question, How do I change the root password? |
| 07:46.54 | liable | passwd |
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| 07:50.46 | deadcat | i am torturing a fly (= |
| 07:50.59 | liable | !torture deadcat |
| 07:51.05 | liable | :( |
| 07:51.12 | deadcat | hahah |
| 07:51.31 | deadcat | hes not talking |
| 07:51.37 | deadcat | just lost 2 legs hahah |
| 07:51.41 | liable | !hi |
| 07:51.41 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 07:51.45 | SimonRaven | @kill deadcat |
| 07:52.46 | liable | deadcat: sick bastard.. wheres your humanity! spray it with some poison that kills him just as slowly. :) |
| 07:53.03 | deadcat | he dont talk, he will suffer |
| 07:53.08 | FinnTux | sarge seems to have several gcc versions. any preferred one? |
| 07:53.12 | SimonRaven | ... |
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| 07:53.17 | deadcat | liable: hahah |
| 07:53.19 | SimonRaven | yes, 4 |
| 07:53.26 | liable | deadcat: you are trying to interogate a fly? |
| 07:53.29 | SimonRaven | oh, sarge, sorry |
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| 07:53.33 | SimonRaven | um, 3.4 |
| 07:53.44 | FinnTux | g++ |
| 07:53.47 | deadcat | liable: ya. where his group is hiding |
| 07:53.50 | FinnTux | oops |
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| 07:53.54 | liable | hehe |
| 07:54.33 | SimonRaven | you'd have more fun sticking a potatoe in a car's exhaust pipe |
| 07:54.44 | ciga | I have squid with smb_auth, but I'd like to enable some common site without authentation. Is there a way to do so? |
| 07:54.56 | SimonRaven | #squid? |
| 07:54.57 | rik_ | Hello all. I have set my (very newb) brother up with a PC with Testing on last August. He's just received an alcatel speedtouch modem from his first ISP so I sent him various speedtouch packages from sourceforge.net to get him online. Does anyone have experience getting this modem working please? I will need to dictate commands so I need it to be as straightforward as possible for him. Which packages, which howto is known to work |
| 07:54.57 | rik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.29 | ciga | SimonRaven: on my way. |
| 07:55.50 | GregM | rik: what model? |
| 07:56.41 | rik_ | GregM, the speedtouch 330 |
| 07:56.57 | SimonRaven | there's |
| 07:56.59 | SimonRaven | !speedtouch usb |
| 07:56.59 | dpkg | well, speedtouch usb is http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/SpeedTouch/ |
| 07:57.06 | SimonRaven | dunno if it's relevant |
| 07:57.29 | GregM | yuck usb adsl modems |
| 07:57.39 | rik_ | GregM, I know there are different versions. I got him to do lsusb. I can't remember what hardware code it was, but there was someone reporting success with RH/Mandrake. |
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| 08:00.51 | liable | !torture deadcat |
| 08:01.03 | liable | :( |
| 08:01.07 | cat | !lart liable |
| 08:01.23 | supsup | Does kernel 2.6.8 have support for IPv6 if I upgrade to xinetd? Also, I have to manually mount my USB HDD on every reboot. it is in fstab and mount -a mounts it. I think that the things it needs to detect USB disk isn't loaded when fstab is mounted in the boot process. How do I fix this? |
| 08:01.25 | SimonRaven | ow |
| 08:02.13 | SimonRaven | supsup: yes. modprobe ipv6. it won't unload unless you reboot. hotplug running? edited /etc/modules? |
| 08:04.57 | supsup | I haven't edited /etc/modules, but I think hotplug is working and running. Can I have an IPv6 thing load automatically? If I go to xinetd, can I still connect to Ipv4 addresses the same? |
| 08:06.02 | rik_ | GregM, thanks. |
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| 08:06.34 | SimonRaven | well, you'll have issues with ipv4 lookups and connects slowing down due to the fact that the linux ip stack checks ipv6 first, and is slow, or used to. but that seems to have been resolved in recent kernels. yes, via /etc/modules |
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| 08:08.35 | liable | godamn my bot foo sucks. :( |
| 08:08.50 | supsup | hotplug isn't in my /etc/modules list. Do I just type "hotplug"? |
| 08:09.12 | SimonRaven | bot fu, fyi. foo is the metasyntactic syllable |
| 08:09.16 | tarzeau | i can't remove twiki. dpkg keeps printing: No override present. |
| 08:09.23 | SimonRaven | no, you put modules there |
| 08:09.27 | tarzeau | how can i get rid of this fucking damned package? |
| 08:09.56 | SimonRaven | rm the .list, and the other stuff except for the postrm and prerm ;p |
| 08:09.58 | liable | SimonRaven: excuse me. :P |
| 08:10.23 | SimonRaven | *g* |
| 08:10.26 | supsup | ok, so what do I do to make it so my usb device mounts at boot time? |
| 08:10.30 | Zomb | !tell supsup about hotplug |
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| 08:11.35 | SimonRaven | man modules, man hotplug |
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| 08:12.09 | gunerh | hi there |
| 08:12.25 | CyzarX | hello guys, i got this error when i click on a zip file. "the utility zip is not in your PATH. Please install it or contact your system administrator" how can i solve this? please help. thanks! |
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| 08:13.11 | SimonRaven | uh, install it? |
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| 08:13.52 | CyzarX | SimonRaven, it is already install in my system |
| 08:14.28 | liable | hmm, can I add a cmd to a locked factoid? |
| 08:14.33 | SimonRaven | then fix your PATH |
| 08:14.56 | CyzarX | SimonRaven, how/where do i fix my path? |
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| 08:15.42 | SimonRaven | you edit your rc files |
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| 08:16.02 | SimonRaven | do echo $PATH first, and paste the line |
| 08:16.22 | supsup | k I don't know if I get this. I have hotplug already working and installed, it just doesn't load soon enough to detect my USB drive and mount it before KDE starts up. So really tis a coldplugging issue |
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| 08:16.57 | supsup | can I put something in some file that runs mount -a again later? |
| 08:17.01 | CyzarX | SimonRaven, /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games |
| 08:17.01 | nkuttler | supsup: man update-rc.d and make it start earlier |
| 08:17.44 | SimonRaven | well, if it's installed via debian packages, it should be in /usr/bin, and hence in your $PATH |
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| 08:18.34 | CyzarX | SimonRaven, zip is NOT in /usr/bin . yes, all of the software install via apt-get |
| 08:18.48 | Musg | in directory /usr/lib/w32 I have codecs, how can I add in totem? |
| 08:18.58 | nkuttler | CyzarX: where is it? |
| 08:19.09 | gunerh | i will do a first time installation of debian .. there are around a dozen cd images |
| 08:19.23 | CyzarX | SimonRaven, it is unzip, not zip |
| 08:19.24 | nkuttler | gunerh: get the net install cd |
| 08:19.27 | SimonRaven | just the first will do |
| 08:19.31 | Musg | I think that need create "ln -s" |
| 08:19.31 | Dameon87 | just do a web install |
| 08:19.34 | Musg | right ? |
| 08:19.35 | SimonRaven | CyzarX: so install it... |
| 08:19.39 | gunerh | the first one is enough you say |
| 08:20.03 | SimonRaven | there is no web install |
| 08:20.20 | Musg | exist some command to create "ln" many files ? |
| 08:20.31 | gunerh | i am planning to make a stable tv streamer box of 5 tv cards runnung 24/7 ,, |
| 08:20.36 | deadcat | Musg: loop it |
| 08:20.42 | gunerh | somebody suggested me debian for its power |
| 08:20.47 | aicra | 5 tv cards... cool |
| 08:20.59 | liable | POWAH! |
| 08:21.01 | SimonRaven | Musg: for loop |
| 08:21.25 | gunerh | yeah .. actually i am running freebsd .. and i want something as good as that .. |
| 08:21.36 | Musg | exist one button in totem program that permit add plug-ins codecs .. but I dont know how |
| 08:21.41 | deadcat | 5 tv card? damn tv junky |
| 08:21.58 | gunerh | i will record 32 cable channels at a time continously |
| 08:22.07 | aicra | using ffmpeg? |
| 08:22.09 | SimonRaven | o_O |
| 08:22.12 | gunerh | mencoder |
| 08:22.46 | supsup | should I use LVM? Can I use that without reconfiguring my current partitions? |
| 08:23.02 | gunerh | i hope debian will not put my face down |
| 08:23.11 | SimonRaven | no, we will ;p |
| 08:23.15 | gunerh | hehehe |
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| 08:23.36 | supsup | also, I install xinetd and ran modprobe ipv6, but it didn't seem to work. IPv4 didn't run slower |
| 08:23.52 | supsup | and the thing wasn't like it says the IPv6 version is |
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| 08:24.11 | supsup | is there a test site I can do or something |
| 08:24.12 | gunerh | hey guys .. burning one cd will yield me base system .. what are other cd s for.. a |
| 08:24.13 | SimonRaven | that's good. ifconfig eth0, should have a link-local addie now |
| 08:24.25 | SimonRaven | well, it's more than just modprobing something |
| 08:24.25 | Jovencito | (-(-(-(hola algun latino)-)-)-) |
| 08:24.33 | Jovencito | (-(-(-(o alguien que hable español)-)-)-) |
| 08:24.38 | SimonRaven | @ops Jovencito spamming |
| 08:24.38 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Jovencito spamming |
| 08:25.00 | Jovencito | (-(-(-(o alguien que hable español)-)-)-) |
| 08:25.07 | nkuttler | !es |
| 08:25.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 08:25.16 | supsup | it has an inet6 address, but it doesn't say anything about link-local |
| 08:25.54 | SimonRaven | yeh, it's: |
| 08:26.05 | SimonRaven | Scope:Link |
| 08:26.15 | supsup | ok. does my ISP have to support this for it to work? |
| 08:26.23 | supsup | I don't need a tunnel broker or something, do I? |
| 08:26.25 | SimonRaven | for a globally accesible addie, it would be Global |
| 08:26.33 | gunerh | last time dummy question |
| 08:26.37 | SimonRaven | if your isp doesn't do ipv6, yes |
| 08:26.51 | supsup | hmmmm ok. Comcast probably doesn't. ;) |
| 08:26.59 | SimonRaven | or get yourself hooked up with occaid. they do bgp |
| 08:27.03 | gunerh | after burning the first cd i will be able to set a network and install the other required packages from that installation |
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| 08:27.22 | SimonRaven | gunerh: the installer will guide you through it |
| 08:27.29 | SimonRaven | else you can see the guide |
| 08:27.33 | SimonRaven | @install guide |
| 08:27.34 | ravenbird | for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg ravenbird iyhtays. |
| 08:27.49 | gunerh | i am donwnloading only the first one ,,, |
| 08:28.13 | SimonRaven | yes, the installer lives there |
| 08:28.59 | toresbe | Can you specify port ranges in iptables? |
| 08:29.07 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 08:29.09 | supsup | man alright. k I'll try getting that update-rc thing to work tomorrow |
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| 08:29.17 | gunerh | 12 cds it is really cool |
| 08:29.24 | supsup | thanks for all the help guys |
| 08:29.42 | SimonRaven | all those cds have both source and binaries, and include all of sarge |
| 08:29.48 | toresbe | thank |
| 08:29.55 | wers | i put a script in /etc/rc.boot/ shouldnt that be executed every boot? |
| 08:30.01 | SimonRaven | no |
| 08:30.08 | FinnTux | anyone knows a good torture test for harddisks? |
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| 08:30.26 | shimano55 | Question, Where's a good place to download themes for Debian? |
| 08:30.42 | drac | shimano55: Themes for Debian? That would be new.. ;) |
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| 08:30.48 | wers | shimano55 Wat windowmaker? |
| 08:31.25 | shimano55 | drac, wers: Nah, you know how you can change like the window borders and stuff? |
| 08:31.26 | wers | shimano55 try customize.org they have alot of skins for x-apps |
| 08:31.35 | SimonRaven | themes for debian... could you be more vague? |
| 08:31.52 | wers | shimano55 are u running Gnome or KDE or what? |
| 08:31.56 | shimano55 | Gnome |
| 08:32.18 | wers | shimano55 Try.. gnome.com |
| 08:32.26 | drac | ~/.themes/SkinName/ProgramName/ |
| 08:32.32 | SimonRaven | www.gnome-look.org |
| 08:32.52 | wers | ahh.. .org |
| 08:33.29 | jkaufman | SimonRaven: i think you can be more vague =\ |
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| 08:33.41 | wers | why will not my /etc/rc.boot/fw run on bootup? |
| 08:33.47 | SimonRaven | *blink* |
| 08:33.53 | SimonRaven | wers: because |
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| 08:33.57 | drac | wers: What distro ? |
| 08:34.03 | wers | sarge |
| 08:34.12 | drac | Ok, then what's /etc/rc.boot ? |
| 08:34.31 | shimano55 | Ok, different Question, Right now, When the computer starts up, I have to login in a terminal, and then type startx...how would I go about installing the login manager? |
| 08:34.41 | cn | anybody want help me with an usb sitecom wireless? |
| 08:34.43 | jkaufman | xdm |
| 08:34.44 | drac | shimano55: apt-get install gdm, or dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 08:34.46 | SimonRaven | why not just plop it into rc2.d and run update-rc.d... |
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| 08:34.47 | ldexter | you want GDM or KDM |
| 08:34.50 | jkaufman | or gdm |
| 08:34.57 | aicra | .xsession |
| 08:35.00 | aicra | pwm |
| 08:35.02 | SimonRaven | shimano55: pick one. they're called display managers |
| 08:35.02 | aicra | :) |
| 08:35.11 | wers | drac its a ..filder.. for scripts thats supposed run on bootup |
| 08:35.22 | SimonRaven | !folder |
| 08:35.22 | dpkg | from memory, folder is a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet, or what ya do before ya doer |
| 08:35.24 | drac | wers: nah, it's /etc/init.d + man update-rc.d |
| 08:35.30 | wers | shimano55 apt-get install gdm |
| 08:35.32 | richardkillingsw | hey does anybody happen to know if there is a shockwave player that is a .deb file for linux anywhere |
| 08:35.40 | richardkillingsw | or something like it |
| 08:36.00 | ldexter | dpkg: fold her! haha! you make me laugh! |
| 08:36.07 | wers | drac ooookej.. and so.. where do i put my firewalscpirt. with my iptables n shit? |
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| 08:36.49 | drac | wers: /etc/init.d + man update-rc.d |
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| 08:37.10 | nelse | hi |
| 08:37.15 | jkaufman | hi |
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| 08:40.32 | liable | !nickometer __DL__ |
| 08:40.32 | dpkg | '__DL__' is 90.330% lame, liable |
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| 08:42.57 | xbmodder | what do you guys reccomend for vid chat using V4L on linux |
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| 08:43.23 | wers | what parameter do i need in /etc/samba/smb.conf to share my shares with rw permissions? |
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| 08:44.10 | SimonRaven | RTFM please. it's extensively documented. and you can always play with swat |
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| 08:45.22 | wers | SimonRaven STFU Swat not working for me.. FU |
| 08:45.40 | SimonRaven | *shrug* |
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| 08:45.42 | deadcat | angry motherfucker (= |
| 08:45.46 | liable | !customer |
| 08:45.46 | dpkg | another happy customer leaves the building |
| 08:45.57 | SimonRaven | *sigh* |
| 08:46.27 | SimonRaven | damn, i had a comeback for that too |
| 08:46.34 | SimonRaven | oh well |
| 08:47.00 | SimonRaven | wanted an easy answer. there are limits.... |
| 08:47.06 | xbmodder | ? |
| 08:47.58 | jkaufman | its nice when people expect help and then lash out like that |
| 08:48.13 | ktinga | I appreciate ya'lls help. :) |
| 08:48.18 | xbmodder | i want help? |
| 08:48.31 | SimonRaven | what? no, never mind |
| 08:48.31 | jkaufman | xbmodder: i ment wers |
| 08:48.37 | liable | people get frustrated, it happens.. |
| 08:48.42 | jkaufman | heh yeah |
| 08:48.45 | xbmodder | what do you guys reccomend for vid chat using V4L on linux |
| 08:48.45 | buu | HELLO jkaufman , i LOVE YOU LONG TIME. |
| 08:48.48 | SimonRaven | yeh |
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| 08:48.56 | jkaufman | buu: umm, hi |
| 08:49.01 | xbmodder | jkaufman, i don't have wers. |
| 08:49.09 | SimonRaven | buu: what did you smoke today? |
| 08:49.30 | buu | SimonRaven: I smoked.. victory! |
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| 08:49.40 | SimonRaven | hmm, was it good? |
| 08:49.47 | buu | Extremely. |
| 08:50.06 | SimonRaven | yummy. it's usually sweet, innit |
| 08:50.20 | pingouin_ | what tool can i use to part & format new hd ? the one like inside the debian installer is cool what's name ? |
| 08:50.43 | SimonRaven | buu: was it that new orange flavour, as well as sweet? |
| 08:50.58 | liable | pingouin_: try cfdisk |
| 08:50.59 | jkaufman | well, atleast now i can say i truly feel loved =) |
| 08:51.01 | Scorpaen | pingouin_, i prefer cfdisk |
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| 08:51.13 | SimonRaven | partman is PITA |
| 08:51.25 | SimonRaven | nice for newbies, though |
| 08:51.37 | deadcat | PITA.. PITA GRIFFIN |
| 08:51.42 | pingouin_ | liable & Scorpaen ok thx use this one usualy |
| 08:51.53 | pingouin_ | thanks sorry |
| 08:51.55 | pingouin_ | !thx |
| 08:51.55 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 08:52.15 | Scorpaen | right on |
| 08:52.17 | liable | hah, self abusing user :) |
| 08:52.26 | pingouin_ | :) |
| 08:52.28 | Scorpaen | :) |
| 08:52.43 | SJr|Tecra | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.59 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, take out power management |
| 08:52.59 | liable | dont press the off button? |
| 08:53.01 | Scorpaen | from the kernel |
| 08:53.23 | Scorpaen | make menuconfig |
| 08:53.28 | SimonRaven | don't shutdown? |
| 08:53.29 | SJr|Tecra | Scorpaen is there a way I could run a program at the end |
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| 08:53.42 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, i don't know the 2nd question |
| 08:53.42 | SJr|Tecra | SimonRaven its for my UPS. |
| 08:53.54 | SJr|Tecra | I just noticed that it will shutdown as in off the system in a power outtage |
| 08:53.59 | SJr|Tecra | I'd hate to recompile my kernel for this |
| 08:54.00 | jkaufman | well, good night guys |
| 08:54.05 | SJr|Tecra | I'd like to have a program run at the end |
| 08:54.10 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, if you shut it down |
| 08:54.11 | SJr|Tecra | where it sleeps for like 10 minutes |
| 08:54.13 | SJr|Tecra | then restarts |
| 08:54.15 | Scorpaen | you have to manually restart it |
| 08:54.20 | Scorpaen | as if it were off |
| 08:54.35 | SJr|Tecra | if I didn't compile this advanced power management stuff in, I wouldn't have to |
| 08:54.52 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, you running a debian kernel or one from kernel.org? |
| 08:55.00 | Scorpaen | i have a good kernel recompile bookmark |
| 08:55.03 | SJr|Tecra | I just recompiled this one |
| 08:55.06 | SJr|Tecra | earlier today |
| 08:55.10 | liable | SJr|Tecra: just remove the modules, but I am not sure of the point of this. |
| 08:55.28 | Scorpaen | IF he has module unloading built in |
| 08:55.29 | Scorpaen | :) |
| 08:55.30 | SJr|Tecra | liable well see its my server. Right now when shutdown gets called it turns it off. |
| 08:55.47 | SJr|Tecra | so when my UPS calls the system to shutdown it turns off |
| 08:55.50 | SJr|Tecra | when power comes back |
| 08:55.53 | SJr|Tecra | it will not turn back on. |
| 08:56.08 | SimonRaven | seems more like an ups issue |
| 08:56.13 | SJr|Tecra | SimonRaven how so |
| 08:56.23 | liable | can wake on lan do that? |
| 08:56.26 | SJr|Tecra | my other option is to do something else when I'm running low on power. |
| 08:57.15 | SimonRaven | well, if i gather what you said correctly, seems that the ups is shutting it down - i figure that setting up the ups so it doesn't shut the box off, will fix it. |
| 08:58.00 | cn | anybody can create a .deb by a source for a zd1211 driver? |
| 08:58.08 | SJr|Tecra | SimonRaver then the box just shuts off without warning |
| 08:58.10 | SJr|Tecra | and I lose data |
| 08:58.40 | SimonRaven | sure. won't be an official package unless you become a dd, or get a sponsor to upload it and check it for errors |
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| 08:58.47 | SimonRaven | oh, i see |
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| 09:00.33 | liable | SJr|Tecra: so, it call shutdown, it just pulls the pin? |
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| 09:00.41 | liable | doesnt |
| 09:00.42 | SimonRaven | well, read your logs around the time the shutdowns occur, and narrow down the problem. could be something else |
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| 09:01.23 | SJr|Tecra | its not really a bug |
| 09:01.26 | SJr|Tecra | I know exactly what is happening |
| 09:01.30 | SJr|Tecra | shutdown -h now shutsdown the machine |
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| 09:02.48 | Serberus | Would anyone be able to tell me how I can stop Debian running what seems to be a "blank screen" screen saver please? I'm on a default install running Gnome and the only obvious place to look was the "Screensaver" settings in "Desktop Preferences > Advanced > Screensaver", when I run that it tells me XScreenSaver daemon isn't running (so why should the screensaver come on anyway? I don't think it's this) plus i've set the screensaver to disabled and turned |
| 09:02.50 | SimonRaven | well yeh, duh |
| 09:02.54 | SimonRaven | man shutdown |
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| 09:04.37 | Scorpaen | lol SJr|Tecra |
| 09:04.46 | xbmodder | hey my system is not seeing any USB devices :( |
| 09:04.48 | xbmodder | any ideas? |
| 09:04.53 | SJr|Tecra | whats so funny Scorpaen |
| 09:04.58 | SJr|Tecra | xbmodder type lspci |
| 09:05.06 | SJr|Tecra | and you should have some lines with USB host controller |
| 09:05.07 | foureyes779 | lsusb |
| 09:05.08 | SJr|Tecra | tell me what they are |
| 09:05.26 | xbmodder | 0000:02:00.0 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-768 [Opus] USB (rev 07) |
| 09:05.39 | xbmodder | it used to see USB |
| 09:05.47 | SJr|Tecra | hmmmm how odd |
| 09:06.03 | SJr|Tecra | xbmodder running the following |
| 09:06.08 | xbmodder | CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y |
| 09:06.09 | SJr|Tecra | modprobe -l | grep hcd |
| 09:06.25 | streuner | xbmodder: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 09:06.26 | xbmodder | :-/ |
| 09:06.36 | SJr|Tecra | what does lsusb say? |
| 09:06.37 | xbmodder | qLinux version 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 (root@Knoppix) (gcc version 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1)) #1 SMP Mon Jul 18 22:20:07 PDT 2005 |
| 09:06.48 | liable | wow.. |
| 09:06.54 | xbmodder | Linux version 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 (root@Knoppix) (gcc version 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7.1)) #1 SMP Mon Jul 18 22:20:07 PDT 2005 |
| 09:07.04 | xbmodder | liable, wow what? |
| 09:07.21 | streuner | xbmodder: you are using a gentoo kernel and asking here? |
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| 09:07.34 | toresbe | ...on a Knoppix system? |
| 09:07.40 | streuner | haha |
| 09:07.43 | streuner | odd |
| 09:07.47 | liable | xbmodder: gentoo and knoppix mentioned in that line, but you ask in #debian.. |
| 09:07.54 | xbmodder | stupid stupid stupid i forgot i have USB 1.1 |
| 09:08.10 | xbmodder | the wall got a dent into it now |
| 09:08.20 | liable | keep banging :) |
| 09:08.32 | xbmodder | lol |
| 09:08.43 | xbmodder | well kernel build gunna take some time... |
| 09:08.44 | xbmodder | :-/ |
| 09:08.53 | streuner | install debian |
| 09:08.59 | xbmodder | no. |
| 09:09.00 | streuner | !d-i xbmodder |
| 09:09.01 | dpkg | xbmodder, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:09.05 | streuner | why not? |
| 09:09.11 | xbmodder | i tried it |
| 09:09.13 | xbmodder | it was nice |
| 09:09.17 | streuner | so? |
| 09:09.18 | Scorpaen | it's funny |
| 09:09.20 | xbmodder | and then i got rid of it. |
| 09:09.24 | Scorpaen | he goint to gentoo |
| 09:09.26 | liable | xbmodder: btw knoppix isnt debian, and why run a gentoo kernel on knoppix? |
| 09:09.27 | Scorpaen | i just came from there |
| 09:09.28 | Scorpaen | to debian |
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| 09:09.38 | Scorpaen | typo |
| 09:09.41 | Scorpaen | beeer |
| 09:09.46 | streuner | liable: moron |
| 09:09.47 | xbmodder | knoppix was the system i built it in |
| 09:09.48 | xbmodder | lol |
| 09:10.08 | SJr|Tecra | Scorpaen since when do you use Debian? |
| 09:10.12 | xbmodder | Linux served 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #1 SMP Mon Jul 18 22:20:07 PDT 2005 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 09:10.16 | SJr|Tecra | Scorpaen you'll be proud of me |
| 09:10.21 | deadcat | !cocaine streuner |
| 09:10.22 | xbmodder | i like that much better |
| 09:10.24 | Scorpaen | os[Linux 2.6.12.4 - Debian 3.1] |
| 09:10.26 | xbmodder | !rm gentoo |
| 09:10.27 | liable | xbmodder: anyway, this is the wrong channel for you.. |
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| 09:10.33 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, a week ago |
| 09:10.39 | SJr|Tecra | why did you switch |
| 09:10.46 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, all audio apps were crashing |
| 09:10.47 | xbmodder | liable, some stupid gentoo op banned me for saying "ez -es /" |
| 09:10.50 | streuner | liable: that channel doesn't even exist for him :-)) |
| 09:10.51 | SJr|Tecra | Scorpaen: I have it so when my UPS looses power, it text messages my cellphoen, and messags me on jabber. |
| 09:10.52 | Scorpaen | nobody on forums even could help me |
| 09:11.03 | Scorpaen | SJr|Tecra, sounds nice setup |
| 09:11.14 | xbmodder | will you guys help me until the 16th? |
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| 09:11.22 | SJr|Tecra | I even set the ringtone on my phone to that of Sephiroth |
| 09:11.28 | liable | xbmodder: well, suck up to the ops there, but here isnt where you will get help.. |
| 09:11.31 | Scorpaen | xbmodder, help you what? |
| 09:11.40 | nkuttler | xbmodder: we can help you install debian |
| 09:11.52 | liable | streuner: you run gentoo?! |
| 09:11.56 | xbmodder | liable, you guys just fixed me. |
| 09:11.59 | SJr|Tecra | omg and in 3 seconds I can have it message me on MSN too :) |
| 09:12.00 | streuner | liable: no |
| 09:12.05 | liable | !fix xbmodder |
| 09:12.12 | xbmodder | uh-oh |
| 09:12.18 | liable | streuner: phew.. |
| 09:12.28 | streuner | Linux version 2.6.9-1-k7 (dilinger@toaster.hq.voxel.net) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2)) #1 Thu Nov 25 03:20:07 EST 2004 |
| 09:12.28 | xbmodder | brb all! |
| 09:12.42 | streuner | liable: pure debian ;-) |
| 09:13.06 | Scorpaen | streuner, why such an old kernel? |
| 09:13.22 | liable | streuner: I wouldnt expect anything less from you, you are our debian pusher! :) |
| 09:13.48 | streuner | Scorpaen: the kernel is very reliable, if i haven't a reason to change, why i should use something else? ;-) |
| 09:14.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 611] by debhelper |
| 09:14.08 | Scorpaen | 2.6.12 seems to run faster for me |
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| 09:14.18 | Scorpaen | Linux teh 2.6.12.4 #1 Wed Aug 10 01:47:02 EDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 09:14.22 | cn | i have 2.4.27 what kernel best can install? |
| 09:14.35 | Scorpaen | cn, what hardware? |
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| 09:14.45 | cn | 64mb ram |
| 09:14.48 | cn | 400mhz |
| 09:14.51 | Scorpaen | cn, i like hte 2.6x kernels |
| 09:15.18 | Scorpaen | if you look at debian's site, i think there's a faq on upgrading your kernel |
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| 09:15.21 | Scorpaen | i dunno |
| 09:15.24 | deadcat | suddenly debian has the latest software, xorg, gcc, gnome, kernel. ALL up to date, except kde |
| 09:15.31 | liable | 2.6.12 just gives me the shits... |
| 09:15.32 | Scorpaen | i chose 2.6.9 when i installed, then upgraded from kernel.org |
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| 09:15.48 | deadcat | Scorpaen: 2.6.8 |
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| 09:15.51 | liable | what debian installs 2.6.9? |
| 09:15.56 | Scorpaen | deadcat, yes that's one thing i am not happy about |
| 09:16.04 | Scorpaen | 2.6.8 |
| 09:16.06 | Scorpaen | sorry |
| 09:16.14 | Scorpaen | i didn't use it long enough to remember it |
| 09:16.17 | Scorpaen | :) |
| 09:16.31 | deadcat | never used 2.6.8 (= |
| 09:16.46 | Scorpaen | sarge installer |
| 09:16.52 | deadcat | woody |
| 09:17.03 | Scorpaen | i installed Debian Monday |
| 09:17.07 | Scorpaen | for the first time |
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| 09:17.33 | deadcat | i didnt install debian on monday |
| 09:17.54 | Scorpaen | :) |
| 09:17.56 | deadcat | dont quite remember what i did on monday.. oh well |
| 09:18.21 | liable | raped tux? :P |
| 09:18.41 | deadcat | thats last year. i actually told him/her "i grapped your ass last year!" HAHHA |
| 09:18.50 | deadcat | after i took the pic with him (= |
| 09:18.53 | liable | same tux? |
| 09:18.57 | deadcat | ya |
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| 09:19.28 | xbmodder | I'm back :) |
| 09:19.52 | ZiRiS | eh? |
| 09:19.54 | deadcat | liable: ya. hhahah same tux: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2004/20040803.linux.world.expo/IMG_0043.JPG http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_2003.jpg |
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| 09:20.10 | ZiRiS | hello, #debian |
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| 09:20.12 | liable | deadcat: but same dude inside? |
| 09:20.20 | deadcat | liable: i doubt that. hehe |
| 09:20.24 | defcon8 | hi ZiRiS |
| 09:20.34 | xbmodder | Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0781:0400 SanDisk Corp. SecureMate SD/MMC Reader |
| 09:20.34 | xbmodder | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1019:0c55 |
| 09:20.34 | xbmodder | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0451:2077 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2077 Hub |
| 09:20.37 | xbmodder | !clap |
| 09:20.41 | liable | deadcat: I have seen your disturbing tux pictures :) |
| 09:20.45 | ZiRiS | i am rather new to debian... and i have but one (hopefully) simple question |
| 09:21.02 | deadcat | liable: i didnt dare to make those pics this year.. |
| 09:21.15 | xbmodder | deadcat, wasn't that at linux world? |
| 09:21.15 | streuner | deadcat: http://kernelconcepts.de/products/fun/tshirts.shtml |
| 09:21.17 | liable | deadcat: pussy! |
| 09:21.24 | chealer | I can't believe it! They gave bugs.d.o a new look! This is so Etch-looking! |
| 09:21.25 | ZiRiS | where is the GIU Hardware config? (if one exists) |
| 09:21.33 | streuner | deadcat: i ordered the standard shirt |
| 09:21.39 | deadcat | liable: although i definately had the people to work with. (=. group of 3+ is good for this type of stuff |
| 09:21.50 | deadcat | xbmodder: ya. you therE? |
| 09:21.52 | xbmodder | yeah |
| 09:21.56 | xbmodder | I was the indian dude |
| 09:22.06 | xbmodder | hanging out with the chinese dude |
| 09:22.08 | xbmodder | who was short |
| 09:22.09 | liable | deadcat: heh, yeah, someone can distract him, while you do your stuff :) |
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| 09:22.12 | deadcat | xbmodder: WHICH ONE? (= |
| 09:22.12 | xbmodder | ~13 |
| 09:22.13 | xbmodder | Lol. |
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| 09:22.32 | xbmodder | there were not any short 14 year old indians hanging out with chinese guys |
| 09:22.48 | munstah_gunjah | like harold and kumar? |
| 09:22.51 | deadcat | streuner: debian t at lwce only $10 (= |
| 09:22.54 | deadcat | you got ripped |
| 09:23.10 | streuner | deadcat: nah :-) |
| 09:23.10 | ZiRiS | uhm.. anyone? i hate to break in on your bleedingly intersting conversation and all... |
| 09:23.29 | liable | ZiRiS: its called bios. |
| 09:23.34 | ZiRiS | o.O |
| 09:23.37 | deadcat | munstah_gunjah: except they dont have $ for weed (= |
| 09:23.45 | ZiRiS | as in Motherboard BIOS? |
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| 09:23.45 | munstah_gunjah | lolk |
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| 09:23.52 | deadcat | xbmodder: going to picnic? |
| 09:24.01 | ZiRiS | right... so how do i manually config my soundcard then? |
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| 09:24.16 | liable | ZiRiS: what kernel and card? |
| 09:24.24 | streuner | ZiRiS: what kernel do you have (cat /proc/version) |
| 09:24.38 | ZiRiS | Debian 3.1, just installed late last nite, Creative Audigy2 |
| 09:24.48 | liable | ZiRiS: what kernel? |
| 09:24.58 | ZiRiS | how do i find out? |
| 09:25.08 | streuner | cat /proc/version |
| 09:25.09 | liable | what streuner said ^^ |
| 09:25.15 | deadcat | streuner: the one you ordered just like the one i was wearing on those pictures? except diff color and mine had debian(debian font) in front right? |
| 09:25.34 | ZiRiS | Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 |
| 09:25.45 | streuner | deadcat: yeah, different colors |
| 09:25.58 | streuner | deadcat: mine is black |
| 09:26.00 | deadcat | streuner: i like my blue... |
| 09:26.10 | deadcat | the back is debian/rules (= heheh |
| 09:26.26 | liable | ZiRiS: get a 2.6 kernel.. |
| 09:26.32 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/DI/pictures/img_0550.jpg < thats me.. a horrid picture of me... |
| 09:26.45 | xbmodder | i like looking at my kernel |
| 09:26.49 | ZiRiS | ok, how or where do i get this new kernel? apt? |
| 09:26.57 | liable | deadcat: thats quite wiity.. |
| 09:26.58 | deadcat | xbmodder: 2MB? damn |
| 09:27.07 | drac | ZiRiS: Check your CPU. (cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep -i model) And choose new kernel matching it, apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 09:27.11 | liable | xbmodder: shrink it! |
| 09:27.12 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/DI/pictures/tn/img_0550.jpg |
| 09:27.23 | xbmodder | shrunken |
| 09:27.35 | drac | ZiRiS: Boot, and install alsa-base, and run alsaconf |
| 09:27.58 | deadcat | xbmodder: where was that? |
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| 09:28.11 | liable | xbmodder: you look like your wasted! |
| 09:28.26 | deadcat | liable: stoner.. or stone-head (= |
| 09:28.32 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pictures/pict0671.jpg |
| 09:28.42 | xbmodder | deadcat, teneesee |
| 09:28.50 | liable | deadcat: nah, not anymore, gotta be resposible an all that.. |
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| 09:29.57 | xbmodder | where you at the debian booth? |
| 09:29.58 | deadcat | xbmodder: going to the linux picnic at sunnyvale on sun? bring your family too. linuxpicnic.org |
| 09:30.24 | xbmodder | http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809-1321.jpg < dude I hate you. I'll see if I can go to the picnic |
| 09:30.29 | deadcat | xbmodder: ya but didnt feel the vibe.. not quite welcomed.. )= so i went took pic with the twins.. |
| 09:30.31 | entheon | ok... for setting the umask that's a builtin... so how do i "set" a builtin as in... i tried putting both "umask=002" and "export umask=002" in my .profile but neither one seemed to affect newly created files when i do touch file.txt the default permissions are still 644 |
| 09:30.56 | xbmodder | wait i am as old as linux |
| 09:30.58 | xbmodder | sweet. |
| 09:31.26 | xoz | entheon: have you logout and logon |
| 09:31.58 | deadcat | which one of you using MSIE right now? get off my server bastard |
| 09:32.04 | entheon | k |
| 09:32.08 | deadcat | (= |
| 09:32.20 | entheon | aight works |
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| 09:32.36 | deadcat | just kidding. just want to know whos using MS to view my gallery.. |
| 09:32.44 | xbmodder | Free Food! |
| 09:32.44 | entheon | what does it mean to "set the gid bit on a directory" ... is that the same as setting the group/owner with chmod or is that like setting the sticky bit? and what does setting the gid bit "do" exactly? |
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| 09:32.50 | xbmodder | i am coming ^^ |
| 09:32.53 | KomiaPoika | hi |
| 09:32.59 | KomiaPoika | how do i prevent message as CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 09:33.01 | deadcat | xbmodder: hell ya. my friedn already on a hunger strike till sun |
| 09:33.08 | KomiaPoika | to spam to all terminals? |
| 09:33.11 | xbmodder | http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809-1321a.jpg < thats not as vibe-ish |
| 09:33.17 | deadcat | KomiaPoika: dmesg -n 1 |
| 09:33.26 | liable | KomiaPoika: dont overclock, clean your case, new paste... |
| 09:33.28 | xbmodder | you making fun of the gentoo guys? |
| 09:33.47 | KomiaPoika | deadcat: it spams to all xterm and ssh sessions, making them unreadable |
| 09:33.50 | deadcat | xbmodder: i was gonna kick their asses |
| 09:33.52 | KomiaPoika | every 2 seconds |
| 09:34.01 | KomiaPoika | how do i restrict such messages to dmesg? |
| 09:34.10 | deadcat | KomiaPoika: ya. my friend has the same problem. p4 HT? |
| 09:34.14 | liable | KomiaPoika: fix the temp problem?? |
| 09:34.26 | deadcat | KomiaPoika: dmesg -n 1 stops in console. dont know terminals |
| 09:34.39 | KomiaPoika | deadcat: no, AMD 2.0@2.8ghz |
| 09:34.50 | xbmodder | http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_2014.jpg < what was up with that? |
| 09:34.52 | deadcat | ah |
| 09:34.55 | xbmodder | why'd batman come? |
| 09:35.00 | KomiaPoika | there is no temperature problem |
| 09:35.16 | deadcat | xbmodder: i told him to punch batman to get the *POW* (= |
| 09:35.35 | xbmodder | http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_2028.jpg |
| 09:35.44 | KomiaPoika | anyway how do i restrict that kind of kernel messages to dmesg instead of let it spam to all open terminal sessions? |
| 09:35.45 | xbmodder | dude your debian booth was a mess |
| 09:35.45 | shay | hm |
| 09:35.48 | shay | I got a question |
| 09:36.04 | shay | when I apt-cache show a package, it shows me "tags" at the end of the information |
| 09:36.04 | deadcat | xbmodder: i was NOT part of them.. wasnt welcomed (= |
| 09:36.09 | shay | how can I use this tags? |
| 09:36.10 | xbmodder | lol |
| 09:36.12 | KomiaPoika | it spams every 5 seconds |
| 09:36.16 | KomiaPoika | when i run heavy app |
| 09:36.17 | deadcat | xbmodder: if they let me incharge i make the place better.. |
| 09:36.29 | liable | jesus.. |
| 09:36.31 | shay | like for example, security::ids, how can I know wich applications has this tag? |
| 09:36.32 | liable | :P |
| 09:36.35 | xbmodder | KomiaPoika, what do you mean buy spam? |
| 09:36.37 | deadcat | xbmodder: i have management written all over.. and i deal with the goddamn customers (= |
| 09:36.50 | KomiaPoika | xbmodder: kernel stuffs that message to all open xterm and ssh sessions |
| 09:36.50 | deadcat | hi liable (= |
| 09:36.51 | streuner | deadcat: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809-1321.jpg <-- You teached them debian? ;-) |
| 09:36.54 | KomiaPoika | kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
| 09:37.00 | KomiaPoika | every 5 seconds |
| 09:37.10 | KomiaPoika | i want it to stop |
| 09:37.18 | xbmodder | i wish i would have gotten a pic with them!!! |
| 09:37.20 | liable | !console dropped packets |
| 09:37.20 | dpkg | it has been said that console dropped packets is to stop iptables/your firewall logging dropped packets to console, edit /etc/init.d/klogd and add -c 2 to the end of the start line of the script. Restart klogd. |
| 09:37.21 | KomiaPoika | all terminals are unusable because of this |
| 09:37.28 | xbmodder | deadcat, which one is you? |
| 09:37.30 | liable | KomiaPoika: try that ^^ |
| 09:37.35 | deadcat | xbmodder: i am the black guy |
| 09:37.43 | entheon | aight... so probably a painfully obvious question/answer... but what is the actual syntax for setting the gid bit on a directory? |
| 09:37.55 | ZiRiS | ok for a model name : AMD Sempron(tm) 2800+ why am i stuck at 386 and not 586 or even 686? what's really the difference? Is AMD able to get that much power out of that old of a technology while Intel has had to make bigger newer technology just to run their processors? |
| 09:38.00 | deadcat | entheon: chgrp ? |
| 09:38.11 | streuner | ZiRiS: Sempron is k7 |
| 09:38.18 | ZiRiS | oh, right.... |
| 09:38.19 | ZiRiS | hehe |
| 09:38.20 | KomiaPoika | liable: try what? |
| 09:38.21 | entheon | deadcat, nope... i need the setgid bit |
| 09:38.29 | xbmodder | i don't see you? |
| 09:38.29 | deadcat | entheon: chmod +s |
| 09:38.37 | deadcat | not +s then |
| 09:38.37 | entheon | hmm |
| 09:38.44 | liable | KomiaPoika: read what dpkg said.. |
| 09:38.45 | entheon | wait... wtf? lol |
| 09:38.47 | entheon | so what is it? |
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| 09:38.50 | xbmodder | ZiRiS, you have a i686 i think :-/ |
| 09:39.05 | KomiaPoika | ooh |
| 09:39.06 | streuner | nah |
| 09:39.12 | streuner | !k7 |
| 09:39.12 | dpkg | hmm... k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 09:39.17 | deadcat | entheon: man chmod |
| 09:39.23 | entheon | yeah i'm looking at it |
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| 09:39.31 | entheon | but there are no setgid example syntaxes |
| 09:39.40 | deadcat | ya. all setuid |
| 09:39.41 | deadcat | hhah |
| 09:39.50 | liable | !mount vfat |
| 09:40.04 | liable | dpkg: you suck. |
| 09:40.04 | dpkg | Dream on, liable. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 09:40.05 | KomiaPoika | liable, which line is the start line? |
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| 09:40.27 | drac | !vfatrw |
| 09:40.27 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS. |
| 09:40.29 | liable | KomiaPoika: look in the script |
| 09:41.17 | aidehua | When I choose the font "9x15" with the -fn option to xterm, how do I know what font I'm actually using? |
| 09:41.26 | aidehua | (As in, how do I find it in xfontsel.) |
| 09:41.42 | deadcat | xbmodder: what the fuck.. you stop chatting once i said i am the black guy!! you have something against black guys? (= |
| 09:41.46 | deadcat | HAHAHA |
| 09:42.02 | ice_1963 | jest got this p2 266 runing tonight with icewm :0) |
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| 09:42.10 | deadcat | oh |
| 09:42.24 | liable | !lart deadcat |
| 09:42.24 | ZiRiS | ok, i have seen the flags on my CPU, and i have seen mp, and i have seen sse, syscall, and sep, but i do not see smp, although that is an option on the AMDK7 proc, with or without smp... is there more knowledge that i need to be able to make an informed descision about this? I certainly do NOT want to install the wrong Kernel and have to start over from scratch (again....) |
| 09:42.28 | deadcat | )= |
| 09:42.37 | xbmodder | anyone know how to turn off auto-off on a Sony DV digital handicam? |
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| 09:43.14 | deadcat | no |
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| 09:44.58 | Shadowcat | cx |
| 09:45.04 | Shadowcat | xbmodder: reprogram it? |
| 09:45.17 | deadcat | or hard reset |
| 09:45.22 | xbmodder | Shadowcat, very funny... |
| 09:45.32 | streuner | deadcat: who is the guy right? http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_2027.jpg |
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| 09:45.36 | xbmodder | whats up with all the cats? |
| 09:45.40 | iepa | Good morning |
| 09:45.46 | ZiRiS | Buehler? Buehler? Beuhler? |
| 09:45.53 | Kououken | Is anyone familiar with RAID under evms? |
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| 09:46.10 | deadcat | xbmodder: thats daniel. hes attending ucsb next sem i think. |
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| 09:46.17 | xbmodder | usb 1-1.4: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 |
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| 09:46.31 | streuner | deadcat: Daniel? |
| 09:46.42 | deadcat | streuner: ya. |
| 09:46.46 | streuner | deadcat: and who's the man in middle? |
| 09:46.47 | xbmodder | ok now how do I get my <i> USB </i> camera working with linux? |
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| 09:47.20 | deadcat | streuner: i dont know him. he brought his laptop in and hans installed for him and config his hardwares |
| 09:47.36 | deadcat | xbmodder: gphoto<s>2 |
| 09:47.40 | ZiRiS | *sigh* |
| 09:47.59 | xbmodder | *camecorder |
| 09:47.59 | Shadowcat | aidehua: xfree86-4.1 is old like hell |
| 09:48.03 | xbmodder | *camcorder |
| 09:48.14 | Shadowcat | xbmodder: rtfm? |
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| 09:48.29 | liable | hmm, food.. |
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| 09:48.42 | deadcat | xbmodder: you on your own |
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| 09:48.50 | aidehua | Shadowcat: not as old as the xterm source :) |
| 09:48.59 | Shadowcat | aidehua: it's old enough |
| 09:49.08 | Shadowcat | hell I'm running XOrg off unstable already |
| 09:49.23 | aidehua | Isn't it the same? |
| 09:49.30 | aidehua | I mean, it's a fork, right. |
| 09:50.23 | Shadowcat | no or I obviously wouldn't risk running stuff off the unstable tree |
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| 09:52.03 | deadcat | xbmodder: did you get anything cool from LWCE? |
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| 09:54.15 | aidehua | Shadowcat: sorry -- I meant "the same" in a historical sense. Obviously the XOrg code has been modified from Xfree86-4.1 etc. I suspect they probably won't have changed the xterm source :) |
| 09:54.31 | DaViDeX | hi. can I install 2.6 kernel during instalation of sarge r0a? |
| 09:54.42 | deadcat | DaViDeX: yes. press F3 |
| 09:54.45 | deadcat | and read.. |
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| 09:55.06 | DaViDeX | when i have to press F3 |
| 09:55.17 | xbmodder | LWCE? |
| 09:55.21 | deadcat | DaViDeX: during the cd bootup and the debian logo thing shows up |
| 09:55.22 | xbmodder | umm I got a condom |
| 09:55.22 | DaViDeX | boot: <- ? |
| 09:55.36 | deadcat | xbmodder: they gave that to a 14yearold? |
| 09:55.41 | xbmodder | lmao yeah :) |
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| 09:56.00 | xbmodder | does anyone here know how to setup a streaming video server |
| 09:56.02 | deadcat | xbmodder: i know you're shitting me.. iam gonna kick your ass. |
| 09:56.05 | DaViDeX | deadcat: thx |
| 09:56.22 | xbmodder | the crossover booth |
| 09:56.37 | deadcat | xbmodder: thats a fucking candy (= |
| 09:57.42 | [bono] | Please help: the file /usr/sbin/zic (-rwxr-xr-x) is owned by root but cannot be deleted/moved by root... '# rm /usr/sbin/zic' gives me 'Permission denied'. Any idea? |
| 09:57.57 | deadcat | [bono]: lsattr |
| 09:58.08 | deadcat | [bono]: you've been rooted. for sure |
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| 09:58.28 | [bono] | deadcat: would you care to explain? |
| 09:58.35 | liable | i can see xbmodder getting a sticky ... oh nevermind.. |
| 09:58.51 | deadcat | liable: haha. no dirty jokes. hes 14 |
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| 09:59.43 | deadcat | [bono]: lsattr shows if theres any mod to the file. if you see i, its inmune. cant rm, even root. use chattr -i filename. this usually happens when a rootkit is isntalled. so you're fucked |
| 09:59.47 | liable | Shadowcat: you want to steal my baked beans on toast? |
| 10:00.07 | deadcat | oh ya. openbsd on a toaster was cool. |
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| 10:00.44 | drac | netbsd |
| 10:00.57 | deadcat | drac: oh (=. how you know? |
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| 10:01.03 | [bono] | deadcat: suS-iadAc-------- /usr/sbin/zic |
| 10:01.16 | deadcat | [bono]: you're fucked |
| 10:01.18 | drac | deadcat: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/11/1754253&from=rss |
| 10:01.41 | deadcat | drac: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/2005/20050809.linux.world.expo/20050809_canonS230_1993.jpg |
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| 10:02.31 | drac | yup :) |
| 10:02.35 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 10:02.47 | deadcat | toaster still works and it plays music |
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| 10:06.40 | alex6z | Hi, is there anyone in Chicago now? Could you tell me if it is raining there? We were planning to go for a trip there this morning. |
| 10:06.59 | deadcat | alex6z: wheather.com lazy bastard |
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| 10:11.24 | [bono] | deadcat: im currently googling on the topic, but could you give me a quick url which would allow me to understand what happened? (whats a rootkit, how it got to forbid me to remove the file, etc...) |
| 10:11.46 | deadcat | [bono]: apt-get install chkrootkit |
| 10:12.13 | deadcat | [bono]: its a huge topic. cant do it in 1 sentence.. basically best solution is backup and reinstall. |
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| 10:12.52 | robo | i need some help, please. i can't import photos from digitalcamera when i use gthumb, i have to open a consol log in as root and start gthumb then it works. i gett io error cant find camera on usb when i'm in my user account. i did try adduser in plugdev but it says i'm already a member. anyone who knows how to solve this ? thanks! |
| 10:13.16 | deadcat | robo: you have a camera group? |
| 10:13.32 | robo | deadcat: hmm, i'll check |
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| 10:13.48 | robo | deadcat: yes, pid 107 |
| 10:14.06 | drac | process id for group ? |
| 10:14.10 | drac | :o |
| 10:14.41 | robo | drac: yes camera, pid 107 |
| 10:14.47 | liable | gid? |
| 10:14.50 | nkuttler | robo: read the gphoto documentation, fix in on the command line for the user |
| 10:15.01 | deadcat | hehe |
| 10:15.06 | drac | adduser robo camera |
| 10:15.19 | robo | nkuttler: okey , thx i'll read it! |
| 10:15.36 | robo | drac: hold on i'll try |
| 10:15.51 | drac | logout and login, or use newgrp after that |
| 10:16.12 | robo | drac: The user `rob' is already a member of `camera'. |
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| 10:24.32 | fantomas | Hi. I'm trying to start using schizm tracker but don't know where to get instruments. Would someone provide a link? Sorry for offtopic. One more question - are there others free trackers? |
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| 10:25.36 | liable | whats it do? |
| 10:25.41 | knt | how can i get a full dependency list of a package? |
| 10:26.03 | liable | apt-cache depends foo |
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| 10:26.21 | liable | or ask dpkg (the bot) |
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| 10:26.52 | jurp5 | hello |
| 10:26.53 | x-Al1gma | hello jurp5 |
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| 10:27.04 | robo | chmode to 755, maby this will work in /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2 ? # check if $GROUP really exists |
| 10:27.04 | robo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.04 | robo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.04 | robo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:27.31 | jurp5 | i have installed shorewall but it dont work good so i deleted it but now mysql does't work |
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| 10:27.52 | robo | hehe, sorry ... |
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| 10:28.33 | jurp5 | can somebody help me with it(mysql) |
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| 10:29.02 | [bono] | deadcat: thanks for the info. appreciate it. |
| 10:29.14 | liable | jurp5: how did you delete it? |
| 10:29.28 | jurp5 | apt-get remove --purge shorewall |
| 10:30.36 | liable | jurp5: iptables -L |
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| 10:30.59 | jurp5 | Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) |
| 10:30.59 | jurp5 | target prot opt source destination |
| 10:30.59 | jurp5 | Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) |
| 10:30.59 | jurp5 | target prot opt source destination |
| 10:30.59 | jurp5 | Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) |
| 10:31.00 | jurp5 | target prot opt source destination |
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| 10:31.10 | liable | oh man.. |
| 10:31.15 | jurp5 | ? |
| 10:31.35 | jurp5 | mysql says this: |
| 10:31.42 | jurp5 | Aug 13 12:19:49 jurp5 mysqld[2018]: 050813 12:19:49 /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown variable 'old_passwords=1' |
| 10:31.44 | liable | jurp5: you a slow learner? read the topic, do you not wonder why you keep getting kicked? |
| 10:31.58 | jurp5 | liable: i know |
| 10:32.01 | subgv | How do I remove those error modules when starting up 3.1 sarge?? |
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| 10:32.09 | subgv | Kernel 2.6 |
| 10:32.17 | liable | jurp5: whatever you did with shorewall has nothing to do with mysql |
| 10:32.22 | jurp5 | i paste next time on a pastebin |
| 10:32.46 | liable | subgv: errors during boot? |
| 10:33.01 | cahoot | jurp5: upgraded mysql and it refuses to start? |
| 10:33.03 | jurp5 | i paste the mysql part of syslog in #flood |
| 10:33.13 | jurp5 | cahoot: no |
| 10:33.14 | subgv | liable: yea, it loads up, but lots of modules are missing. |
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| 10:33.18 | liable | jurp5: put it on a psater. |
| 10:33.32 | liable | subgv: stock debian kernel? |
| 10:33.45 | jurp5 | liable: look on #paste |
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| 10:33.50 | subgv | liable: yes, sir, netinstall |
| 10:33.50 | jurp5 | #flood |
| 10:33.52 | jurp5 | i mean |
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| 10:34.11 | liable | jurp5: I actually know nothing about mysql.. |
| 10:34.19 | jurp5 | ok |
| 10:34.24 | liable | subgv: what errors? |
| 10:34.38 | jurp5 | i have pasted it on #flood |
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| 10:34.42 | liable | subgv: look in /var/log/kern.log |
| 10:34.49 | subgv | liable: ok |
| 10:35.24 | jurp5 | liable |
| 10:35.24 | oleth | hello. I want to mount a hard drive. How can I tell in which hdxx it's assigned? (I dont want to reboot to see it from the boot info) |
| 10:35.28 | liable | jurp5: |
| 10:35.32 | jurp5 | look at it |
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| 10:35.55 | jurp5 | i pressed enter too fast |
| 10:35.56 | liable | jurp5: yeah I did, sorry, as I say, I know nothing about mysql. |
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| 10:36.45 | liable | jurp5: but, also as I said, it has nothing to do with shorewall, so, what else did you do? |
| 10:37.12 | jurp5 | nothing? |
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| 10:37.24 | cahoot | oleth: cat /proc/partitions |
| 10:37.31 | jurp5 | after i used shorewall it refuce to start |
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| 10:38.51 | liable | jurp5: have you googled the error, or try #mysql if it exists. |
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| 10:38.58 | cahoot | oleth: sorry - a simple dmesg|grep -i hd might do |
| 10:39.14 | jurp5 | liable: i'have googled but found nothing |
| 10:39.23 | jurp5 | liable: i ask it on #mysql |
| 10:39.23 | liable | jurp5: bugger :( |
| 10:39.34 | oleth | cahoot: I'll try it |
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| 10:41.22 | jurp5 | i commented the line in my.cnf and now it works |
| 10:41.46 | liable | well, there ya go.. |
| 10:41.53 | jurp5 | he has give a error about: old_passwords=1 |
| 10:42.02 | oleth | cathoot: ok solved (dmseg). what does the file /proc/partitions does? |
| 10:42.04 | jurp5 | i commented it and now it works |
| 10:42.09 | Nurbs | libapache2-mod-perl2 does on upgrade change /etc/apache2/mods-available/perl.conf from "PerlModule Apache2" to "# Hi mom!" O_o |
| 10:42.22 | cahoot | jurp5: as bts implies |
| 10:42.34 | Nurbs | the little joys of being a sysadmin. |
| 10:42.45 | cahoot | oleth: it shows mounted partitions |
| 10:42.55 | liable | Nurbs: you serious? |
| 10:43.07 | Nurbs | yes :) |
| 10:43.20 | oleth | cathoot: mounted or simply attatched to the computer? |
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| 10:43.47 | cahoot | oleth: looks like all prtitions on mounted devices |
| 10:43.58 | liable | Nurbs: wacky maintainers :P |
| 10:44.01 | usn | hi folx |
| 10:44.12 | oleth | cathoot: thanks |
| 10:44.14 | oleth | bye |
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| 10:44.19 | Nurbs | liable: they often are ;) |
| 10:44.26 | liable | yeah.. |
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| 10:47.54 | xophEr | what package do I need so I can hear the sound of my movies? (xvid) |
| 10:48.04 | bip | has anybody succesfully installed latest sid into vmware ? |
| 10:48.31 | Shadowcat | why would you install sid on vmware? |
| 10:48.48 | bip | to have a look at it Shadowcat , why not ? |
| 10:49.02 | bip | i do use a lot vmware for checkin things |
| 10:49.21 | POVaddct | bip: you could also use qemu |
| 10:49.27 | bip | i wanted to check some features w/out committing a real box to it |
| 10:49.48 | bip | i couls POVaddct but i do have vmware already running ... |
| 10:50.04 | bip | so it was the most obvious choice |
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| 10:50.20 | bip | and i had a chance ti run many different debian version on it ... |
| 10:50.32 | bip | i was just wondering why i m havin problem with sid |
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| 10:51.14 | bushido | hi folsk |
| 10:51.15 | bushido | folks |
| 10:51.18 | liable | maybe whatever you are trying to use is broken? |
| 10:51.43 | liable | xophEr: if you use alsa, set the player to use alsa.. |
| 10:52.05 | bushido | with wich programm can i convert a avi film into an mpg film for the purpose of burning as mvcd an watching on standalone dvd player? |
| 10:52.07 | xophEr | ok, thanks |
| 10:52.44 | liable | transcode? |
| 10:52.58 | bushido | liable: do you mean me? |
| 10:53.02 | POVaddct | bip: i found qemu's virtual hardware causing less trouble for unixlike guest OSs |
| 10:53.04 | aicra | you can convert the avi to mpg with ffmpeg |
| 10:53.15 | bushido | thank you aicra :) |
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| 10:54.00 | bip | well if i cant figure a workaround with vmware i ll remember that POVaddct thanx for sharing your experience |
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| 10:57.37 | bip | i do have a virtual sarge box running right now ... |
| 10:57.50 | bip | inside my real sarge box ... |
| 10:57.54 | liable | bip: try upgrading it. |
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| 10:58.20 | aicra | bushido: try avi2mpeg |
| 10:58.21 | bip | installing sarge then doin a upgradede from sarge to sid liable ? |
| 10:58.40 | liable | bip: yeah, how else are you doing it? |
| 10:58.46 | bip | i dont want to screw that box now , since it s my virtual ids box |
| 10:58.52 | bip | well |
| 10:59.03 | bip | i was creating a new sid box from scratch liable |
| 10:59.08 | bip | but doesnt work liable |
| 10:59.18 | bip | :-( |
| 10:59.23 | liable | what do you mean? from scratch? |
| 10:59.50 | bip | have you ever used vmware liable ? |
| 11:00.00 | liable | bip: no. |
| 11:00.12 | bip | ah ok ... |
| 11:00.29 | bip | then maybe you dont know what i m talkin about liable |
| 11:00.49 | liable | most likely, but why dont you just try what I suggested? |
| 11:01.00 | bip | well ... |
| 11:01.15 | bip | because it would involve a double install ... |
| 11:01.21 | liable | bip: install sarge, then upgrade it.. |
| 11:01.31 | bip | first installing sarge then upgrading it to sid |
| 11:01.41 | liable | bip: cant you just run apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 11:01.47 | bip | i was looking for a qucker route |
| 11:01.59 | bip | well to run it i need to have it installed first ... |
| 11:02.09 | liable | well, whatever you are doing doesnt seem to work, so.. |
| 11:02.10 | bip | and i dont have it installed on that box liable |
| 11:02.30 | bip | so before tryin a long solution ... |
| 11:02.41 | bip | i want to be sure there isn t a quickest one liable |
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| 11:02.47 | subgv | Where or How can I obtain the source code of debian-installer? |
| 11:02.58 | bip | but thanx for pointing a possible solution liable |
| 11:03.07 | abrotman | subgv: check http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 11:03.14 | subgv | thx |
| 11:03.24 | liable | bip: sid is a bit broken at the moment, but I have no idea how you are trying to install it. But it is usuable.. |
| 11:03.39 | bip | well .. |
| 11:03.39 | abrotman | liable: bit? |
| 11:03.53 | bip | i m trying to install it into a virtual computer ... |
| 11:03.55 | subgv | liable: my machine is not up yet, I will share that kern.log message tomorrow, sleepy |
| 11:03.58 | liable | abrotman: well... |
| 11:04.19 | bip | a computer made of sofware and nor reall stuff you can smash with a hammer liable |
| 11:04.34 | metaperl | is anyone using a lexmark 1185 with Debian? I'm thinking of getting one. |
| 11:04.36 | liable | subgv: no worries |
| 11:04.42 | abrotman | liable: i think if you use a daily BC .. you can tel it to do sid |
| 11:04.53 | bip | and i m doin that exactly beacuse i know how broken sid can be ... |
| 11:05.00 | abrotman | metaperl: and you're asking why? |
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| 11:05.06 | liable | abrotman: BC? |
| 11:05.11 | bip | i wanted to have a look at xorg and gnome 2.10 |
| 11:05.13 | abrotman | Business Card |
| 11:05.19 | liable | ohh |
| 11:05.30 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel sid |
| 11:05.33 | bip | just to know what might come into testing one of those days liable |
| 11:05.37 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 363 kB, Installed size: 860 kB |
| 11:05.41 | liable | abrotman: you mean sid d-i? |
| 11:05.48 | abrotman | liable: there's that too :) |
| 11:06.04 | abrotman | liable: but i think the BC can install sarge/etch/sid |
| 11:06.18 | liable | thats what I thought you meant :) |
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| 11:06.32 | liable | abrotman: it gives you a choice at install? |
| 11:06.45 | abrotman | liable: iirc yes .. but it's been a while since i tried to use it |
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| 11:06.53 | liable | oh, ok. |
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| 11:07.01 | liable | didnt know that.. |
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| 11:07.15 | liable | never actually used it :P |
| 11:07.36 | abrotman | !tell bright_1112 about knoppix |
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| 11:10.53 | bright2223 | hellp |
| 11:10.56 | bright2223 | hello |
| 11:10.56 | x-Al1gma | hello bright2223 |
| 11:10.58 | oleth_ | hello, I have mounted a vfat drive. The only thing is that everything apart directories are registered as executables? |
| 11:11.04 | bright2223 | I have got a big troube !@ |
| 11:11.11 | bright2223 | can anybody help me? |
| 11:11.11 | abrotman | bright2223: if you have a knoppix question .. ask #knoppix |
| 11:11.19 | shay | bright2223, just ask |
| 11:11.22 | bright2223 | no I installed debian. |
| 11:11.28 | abrotman | bright2223: you need to ask before we can tell you if we can help :) |
| 11:11.32 | bright2223 | then later I installed windows 2000 |
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| 11:11.45 | bright2223 | after the win installation my lilo is not working... |
| 11:11.47 | shay | and your MBR got rewrited? |
| 11:11.50 | liable | bright2223: re-install grub |
| 11:11.57 | liable | or lilo.. |
| 11:12.04 | bright2223 | now I run this from knoppix... |
| 11:12.16 | bright2223 | and I can see my old debian system files. |
| 11:12.18 | shay | excellent |
| 11:12.33 | bright2223 | how I can install grub? |
| 11:12.34 | shay | run lilo from knoppix with your debian config |
| 11:12.44 | liable | knoppix has an irc client? what is it? |
| 11:12.46 | bright2223 | just a moment... |
| 11:12.55 | bright2223 | it x-chat. |
| 11:12.57 | abrotman | and for future referece .. install linux after windows |
| 11:12.57 | bip | oh well abrotman google will find a ton |
| 11:13.03 | liable | shit, cool :) |
| 11:13.06 | abrotman | bip: kind of ... |
| 11:13.20 | bip | yes kind of ;-) |
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| 11:13.51 | shay | bright2223, http://hacks.oreilly.com/pub/h/2495 |
| 11:13.53 | bright2223 | is there any way to recover my old lilo? |
| 11:14.06 | abrotman | bip: i'm referring to one that might be debian specific .. and involve using knoppix/ubuntu or some other boot medium .. |
| 11:14.07 | bip | sure bright2223 it s a faq |
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| 11:14.19 | bright2223 | thank you shay. |
| 11:14.22 | abrotman | bright2223: man lilo |
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| 11:14.28 | abrotman | liable: i have 3 thumbs! |
| 11:14.42 | shay | bright2223, you'r lilo.conf is still saved in your debian partition, you just need to run lilo, follow the steps from the link I gave you |
| 11:14.56 | abrotman | liable: some things are really hard with 3 thumbs ... |
| 11:15.06 | bright2223 | shay>> I am reading that... |
| 11:15.10 | liable | abrotman: hmm, dont want to know :P |
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| 11:16.01 | abrotman | liable: it was a joke! |
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| 11:16.13 | liable | abrotman: sure sure.. :) |
| 11:16.31 | liable | all on one hand? |
| 11:17.11 | abrotman | liable: wouldn't that be fun .. |
| 11:17.19 | trc | having some usb problems, scanner permissions is one, dont know where to adjust them |
| 11:17.28 | abrotman | liable: i'd feel like that .. uhm .. what isit .. that lizard with super big red eyes? |
| 11:18.03 | abrotman | trc: did you check the docs at erm |
| 11:18.04 | abrotman | !sane |
| 11:18.04 | dpkg | Scanner Access Now Easy makes scanning...easy, or http://www.sane-project.org/ |
| 11:18.09 | abrotman | trc: there |
| 11:18.29 | trc | abrotman: thanx, will do it |
| 11:18.32 | liable | abrotman: you've got me stumped there.. no idea. |
| 11:19.21 | abrotman | liable: oh .. they are .. south american i think ... |
| 11:20.25 | liable | the ones with swivelly eyes? big long tongues? that change colour? |
| 11:20.42 | liable | what are they? having a brain fart.. |
| 11:20.49 | shay | yawn |
| 11:21.00 | abrotman | liable: let's ask shay .. he knows everything! |
| 11:21.08 | liable | apparently.. |
| 11:21.16 | shay | I'm way too far from knowing everything |
| 11:21.17 | liable | chameleon! |
| 11:21.21 | abrotman | shay: what's a green lizard with big red eyes that they usually photograph attached to a branch? |
| 11:21.35 | bip | maybe he just knows how to google ;-) |
| 11:21.44 | abrotman | liable: no |
| 11:21.45 | shay | bip's got a point |
| 11:21.51 | liable | shuddup! |
| 11:21.54 | abrotman | bip: i know how to google .. and i'm failing :) |
| 11:21.57 | bip | ;-) |
| 11:22.10 | liable | ghecko! |
| 11:22.40 | bip | well shay has got faster fingers abrotman ;-) |
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| 11:23.12 | abrotman | you lie! |
| 11:23.46 | liable | hmm, three thumbed, red eyed lizard on branch gives no hits.. :( |
| 11:23.47 | shay | aren't those iguanas? |
| 11:24.04 | shay | atleast there are a lot of iguanas in south american |
| 11:24.06 | bip | no are small dragons ... |
| 11:24.06 | shay | -n |
| 11:24.12 | liable | thats the one I was thinking of. |
| 11:24.16 | bip | awaitin to grow up ;-) |
| 11:24.24 | shay | it seems to be a little iguana |
| 11:24.33 | abrotman | no |
| 11:24.44 | bright2223 | shay> when I run the lilo command from this current knopix CD, it says Unrecognized token "! Please edit /etc/lilo.conf before running lilo!" at or above line 20 in file '/etc/lilo.conf' |
| 11:25.06 | abrotman | they always show them with thier feet wrapped around a branch .. and big red eyes .. |
| 11:25.10 | shay | okay, just chose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizard |
| 11:25.13 | liable | bright2223: chroot in first and try. |
| 11:25.33 | shay | bright2223, don't run it from the knoppix, run it with chroot |
| 11:25.54 | bright2223 | liable.. what is chroot? sorry I don't know much about linux... |
| 11:26.17 | shay | bright2223, you can do that by executing a shell with chroot (chroot <mountpoint> /bin/bash) or by executing it directly with chroot (chroot <mountpoint> /sbin/lilo) |
| 11:26.27 | shay | just don't forget to mount the partition with the "dev" option |
| 11:26.44 | shay | and "exec", if the partition is mounted as "noexec" it wont work |
| 11:27.03 | liable | bright2223: um, first you might need to remount it rw, then just type chroot /dev/hda? where ? is your / |
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| 11:27.25 | shay | bright2223, man 2 chroot (for the system call explaination) and man 8 chroot for the command |
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| 11:27.46 | liable | bright2223: mount -o remount rw /dev/hda? |
| 11:27.54 | shay | hda? |
| 11:28.04 | shay | oh lapsus |
| 11:29.15 | liable | bright2223: did you install woody or something? |
| 11:29.47 | bright2223 | liable.. no i installed debian. then windows 2K .. now running from knoppix CD |
| 11:30.04 | abrotman | the lizard@ |
| 11:30.06 | bright2223 | liable..sorry.. yes that was woody |
| 11:30.12 | abrotman | eww .. woody |
| 11:30.18 | liable | bright2223: how come woody? |
| 11:30.50 | shay | http://linux-il.org/~omri/funny/admins.jpg |
| 11:30.57 | liable | abrotman: picture? |
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| 11:31.35 | abrotman | liable: i'm loooking |
| 11:31.45 | bright2223 | now I am in /mnt/ directory. it was my old debina |
| 11:31.45 | liable | quicker! |
| 11:31.55 | liable | :P |
| 11:32.05 | shay | funny guy this liable |
| 11:32.07 | bright2223 | liable>>> now I am in /mnt/hda2 directory. it was my old debina |
| 11:32.07 | abrotman | hey .. i'm looking damnit |
| 11:32.18 | liable | joking... |
| 11:32.23 | shay | :P |
| 11:32.32 | bright2223 | liable>> then what should I type? |
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| 11:32.47 | nostalg1c | is there a backport of subversion 1.2.x for sarge ? |
| 11:32.51 | shay | chroot /mnt/hda2 /sbin/lilo |
| 11:32.56 | liable | bright2223: try chroot /mnt/hda2 |
| 11:33.01 | finn_ | shay, hehe the picture isn't that great, but: "we are drunk and have guns and shit" hehe |
| 11:33.04 | shay | chroot /mnt/hda2 wont work |
| 11:33.05 | bright2223 | libale>> ok |
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| 11:33.30 | shay | he needs to run "something" with chroot, like /bin/bash or something |
| 11:33.36 | bright2223 | libale> yes it worked |
| 11:33.39 | liable | no you dont.. |
| 11:33.42 | bright2223 | libale > then... |
| 11:33.45 | liable | shay: why? |
| 11:33.53 | bip | chroot /mnt/hda2 /sbin/lilo |
| 11:33.57 | shay | hm, that's from what I remembred |
| 11:34.25 | liable | bright2223: now fix lilo, which I dont use so, I cant help.. :( |
| 11:34.29 | shay | oh, it takes $SHELL as the default bin to run :) |
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| 11:34.38 | shay | chroot: cannot run command `/bin/zsh': No such file or directory |
| 11:34.46 | bright2223 | libale...? now it looks like work.. |
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| 11:35.02 | bright2223 | libale> after the lilo command..it say added linux.. |
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| 11:35.08 | bright2223 | libale> thanks.. |
| 11:35.27 | bright2223 | libale> now I am rebooting.. |
| 11:35.33 | shay | g'luck bright2223 |
| 11:35.34 | bright2223 | thank you guys...... |
| 11:35.41 | bright2223 | thanks... shay. |
| 11:35.52 | liable | fingers crossed.. :) |
| 11:36.02 | liable | no picture? |
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| 11:36.08 | bright2223 | do you know why I love debian? because you guys are there.. always helped me a lot ! |
| 11:36.19 | shay | aww |
| 11:36.24 | liable | abrotman: no picture? |
| 11:36.24 | shuning | group hug! |
| 11:36.35 | shay | bright2223, are you female? <g> |
| 11:36.46 | abrotman | liable: no .. chameleon .. but all the pictures i looked at showed them on the ground :) |
| 11:37.03 | liable | abrotman: so it is chameleon? |
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| 11:37.10 | liable | !win me |
| 11:37.10 | dpkg | Congratulations, liable! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 11:37.16 | abrotman | liable: afaict .. yes |
| 11:37.17 | defcon8 | no! |
| 11:37.19 | defcon8 | !win me |
| 11:37.31 | shay | !lose defcon8 |
| 11:37.32 | dpkg | defcon8: You Lose. |
| 11:37.34 | abrotman | defcon8: guess not |
| 11:37.36 | shay | ho-ho |
| 11:37.43 | abrotman | funny guy this shay |
| 11:37.48 | shay | :) |
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| 11:38.37 | abrotman | !tell ^arky^ about away |
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| 11:40.56 | mashiur | hi |
| 11:41.28 | liable | abrotman: I have big frogs living in my dunny. cute little guy's, but the fuckers make a damn mess.. and I cant bring myself to kill em.. |
| 11:41.39 | mashiur | hi everybody... |
| 11:41.43 | liable | hi |
| 11:41.54 | mashiur | can anybody help me with a problem... |
| 11:41.58 | mashiur | related to lilo.. |
| 11:42.05 | abrotman | dunny? |
| 11:42.15 | abrotman | liable: engrish ... |
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| 11:42.17 | abrotman | !dunny |
| 11:42.24 | liable | toilet.. |
| 11:42.39 | abrotman | liable: why are there frogs in your crapper? |
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| 11:42.52 | abrotman | liable: is your toilet .. outside? |
| 11:42.58 | abrotman | !aussiesmite liable |
| 11:42.59 | dpkg | liable: godamnit mate it's about time i mow the brigalo suckers bloody hell |
| 11:43.01 | liable | I live in tropical area, big green tree frogs, they go wherever theres water.. |
| 11:43.32 | mashiur_ | hi I was bright... |
| 11:43.34 | abrotman | liable: put the lid down .. jeez |
| 11:43.42 | liable | doesnt help.. |
| 11:43.43 | abrotman | mashiur_: and now you're dim ? |
| 11:43.46 | mashiur_ | liable> I resolved my lilp |
| 11:43.58 | liable | lilp? |
| 11:44.08 | abrotman | lil p |
| 11:44.11 | mashiur_ | liable> lilo resolved.. |
| 11:44.15 | abrotman | little problem .. |
| 11:44.18 | mashiur_ | libale> sorry |
| 11:44.21 | liable | oh, ok |
| 11:44.29 | abrotman | mashiur_: we won't penalize you for using whole words |
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| 11:44.57 | mashiur_ | libale> but I got another probelm. I can't see the windows in lilo. |
| 11:45.01 | abrotman | !tell ^arky^ about away |
| 11:45.14 | liable | !nicktab |
| 11:45.14 | dpkg | Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles. For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one. |
| 11:45.15 | mashiur_ | liable> how I can include the windows 2000 in lilo? |
| 11:45.20 | ^arky^ | thx abrotman I got it |
| 11:45.21 | abrotman | mashiur_: you need to edit your lilo.conf |
| 11:45.51 | mashiur_ | abrotman> can you tell me in details |
| 11:46.10 | mashiur_ | abrotman> can you refer me any website or man page? |
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| 11:47.30 | shay | I just printed the "don't fuck with the admins" pic and putted it at my door |
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| 11:48.33 | abrotman | other=/dev/hda1 |
| 11:48.34 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.34 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.47 | mashiur_ | abrotman> thanks |
| 11:48.52 | abrotman | assuming /dev/hda1 is your windows installation |
| 11:49.10 | abrotman | and actually .. i think you can leave the table line out |
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| 11:50.39 | nostalg1c | can i use subversion 1.2.0 (currently in sid) in sarge somehow ? |
| 11:50.56 | POVaddct | mashiur_: and don't forget to run lilo afterwards |
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| 11:52.06 | abrotman | nostalg1c: you'd have to backport it |
| 11:52.21 | rixth | I can't believe Debian can't extract .tbz files. How crap is that? |
| 11:52.23 | Shadowcat | I don't see why you need Subversion 1.2.x |
| 11:52.31 | abrotman | rixth: you mean .. -jxf ? |
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| 11:52.41 | Shadowcat | rixth: it can, you just don't know the flags |
| 11:52.52 | nostalg1c | Shadowcat, i was told to get that version for FSFS support |
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| 11:52.53 | abrotman | rixth: try reading the man page next time :) |
| 11:52.54 | rixth | abrotman, I get told I don't have bzip |
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| 11:53.00 | abrotman | rixth: FFS .. install it |
| 11:53.06 | Shadowcat | DUH |
| 11:53.10 | POVaddct | rixth: then install bzip2 |
| 11:53.11 | rixth | even though I've apt-getted bzip2 (there is no bzip) |
| 11:53.11 | unco | anyone know if it's possible and if so how to create symlinks within the proc structure? |
| 11:53.34 | Shadowcat | unco: you can't touch proc |
| 11:53.40 | Shadowcat | proc exists only in the kernel |
| 11:53.41 | abrotman | unco: you'd have to do it every boot anywyas |
| 11:53.47 | abrotman | even if you could :) |
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| 11:53.58 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: speak damn you! |
| 11:54.16 | abrotman | rixth: can you bunzip2 the file ? |
| 11:54.22 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: grrr .. |
| 11:55.00 | rixth | abrotman, I can indeed, file-roller just doesn't like it =/ |
| 11:55.27 | abrotman | rixth: that may be abug in file roller .. no idea .. never used it .. not sure why you wopuld really ... |
| 11:56.04 | unco | yer i'm just trying to get these bloody toshiba drivers working - the applications for akpi look in /proc/acpi/toshiba/TOSHIBA1/ but the stuff it needs is in /proc/acpi/toshiba/ |
| 11:56.17 | abrotman | unco: where did you get the drivers? |
| 11:56.38 | unco | from the kernel source |
| 11:56.55 | abrotman | unco: not from debian? |
| 11:56.58 | abrotman | !toshiba |
| 11:56.59 | dpkg | somebody said toshiba was the manufacturer of epsasnova's hoss laptop. |
| 11:57.01 | liable | unco: what applications/ |
| 11:57.03 | abrotman | nice |
| 11:57.13 | unco | ahh it's okay i'll just mod the soruce |
| 11:57.13 | liable | abrotman: theres toshiba stuff in the kernel. |
| 11:57.30 | liable | or is it dell?.. |
| 11:57.32 | unco | liable : it's just akpi |
| 11:57.36 | unco | nah |
| 11:57.40 | unco | toshiba stuff is in the kernel |
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| 11:57.52 | liable | whats akpi? |
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| 11:58.17 | liable | acpi? |
| 11:58.27 | unco | yer it's an acpi monitor for kde |
| 11:58.51 | abrotman | toshset - Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface |
| 11:58.51 | abrotman | toshutils - Toshiba laptop utilities |
| 11:59.05 | xwl | Hi, can `apt-get source -d' download only .tar.gz, and ignore |
| 11:59.05 | xwl | .diff.gz, .dsc? |
| 11:59.16 | POVaddct | hehe, try this: mount --bind /proc/<pid> /mnt/try ; kill <pid> ; cd /mnt/try ; ls |
| 11:59.37 | dtb | hey guys im in the debian setup and i would liek to resize an ntfs partition |
| 11:59.45 | dtb | dont really wanna loose my windows partition |
| 11:59.48 | dtb | ntfsresize isnt on the cd |
| 11:59.51 | dtb | is there another way ? |
| 11:59.52 | abrotman | !ntfs resize |
| 11:59.52 | dpkg | ntfs resize is, like, http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html |
| 11:59.53 | liable | dtb: you cant resize with the installer.. |
| 11:59.56 | dtb | like.. knoppix ? |
| 12:00.18 | liable | dtb: knoppix has qtparted, use that.. |
| 12:00.39 | liable | but it may well fuck your ntfs partition too.. |
| 12:00.57 | dtb | lol |
| 12:00.59 | abrotman | dtb: back up your data first |
| 12:01.05 | liable | as can any resizer.. |
| 12:01.15 | dtb | so is there a preference on ntfsresize or parted ? |
| 12:01.18 | abrotman | liable: no way .. partition magic would never do that :) |
| 12:01.27 | liable | hah :) |
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| 12:02.46 | liable | abrotman: looking for free porn? :P |
| 12:03.25 | abrotman | liable: yeah .. me and my three thumbs |
| 12:03.31 | liable | hahaha |
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| 12:03.55 | liable | that was quite funny :) |
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| 12:09.16 | miten | any document telling howto upgrade from debian 3.0 and 3.1 so I can use 2.6 kernel. I dont have linux internet connectivity so would need to download using winnt and then use linux winnt mount and install.. sounds like lot of work :-) |
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| 12:10.42 | ImEatingPringles | has anybody here used perlbox-voice? I have it installed but would like to know if it can do certain things |
| 12:11.55 | abrotman | !tell miten about woody->sarge |
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| 12:12.11 | abrotman | miten: dvd burner? |
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| 12:13.08 | miten | abrotman: no dvd burner....I am limited to what I said...I can download using winnt then reboot to linux...mount ntfs and install...thats how I can managed many times so far.... |
| 12:13.37 | liable | miten: why cant you get internet? if it has a ethernet card? |
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| 12:13.47 | abrotman | miten: why no intarweb in linux ? |
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| 12:14.46 | miten | liable: my isp connection is using ethernet and then they have me use their client to get connected. on linux they have not provided any client nor any instructions on how to get connected |
| 12:14.53 | [Obi-Wan] | got an identd problem, after reboot, it won't work -> error msg on debug is -> "identd: failed binding to the TCP/IP socket" , any ideas ? |
| 12:15.35 | abrotman | miten: who is your ISP? |
| 12:15.43 | abrotman | [Obi-Wan]: something else using it? |
| 12:15.44 | liable | miten: pppoe? you can get that working.. |
| 12:16.14 | [Obi-Wan] | not that I know of.. abrotman... it should be runnin from inetd, but If it's running, it's not really workin :/ |
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| 12:16.23 | miten | abrotman: its called citicable its not in usa...... |
| 12:16.25 | liable | miten: or get a router, or change to an isp that doesnt suck ass.. :) |
| 12:16.49 | miten | liable: I earlier used some adsl setup with another similar isp |
| 12:16.52 | abrotman | miten: is it pppoe ? |
| 12:17.06 | abrotman | [Obi-Wan]: sid? |
| 12:17.08 | miten | liable: router will not help since both are on same machine...dual boot |
| 12:17.18 | [Obi-Wan] | sarge |
| 12:17.30 | miten | abrotman: what else could it be? I am not sure what they use... |
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| 12:17.56 | [Obi-Wan] | I upgraded to 2.6.11 kernel image, re-compiled the pidentd binaries, and nada |
| 12:18.15 | miten | please be quick as I need to leave...may be come back later.... |
| 12:18.21 | ImEatingPringles | is there a command which sends a command to another terminal window? I mean like controlling a terminal window running lynx via a different terminal |
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| 12:18.43 | abrotman | miten: you can obviously use ntfs .. but the easiest thing i can thing of is to download the first full ISO .. and start from there |
| 12:18.51 | abrotman | miten: but all ISOs would be better |
| 12:19.05 | abrotman | miten: then you can(hopefully in windows) mount an iso and copy the debian packages off ? |
| 12:19.07 | liable | miten: there is most defiantely no easy way to upgrade from woody to sarge, without internet. |
| 12:19.43 | miten | sounds like I would need to first resolve linux connectivity issue and then try easy apt upgrade stuff. |
| 12:19.54 | liable | miten: if your isp does pppoe, you can get it to work with debian. |
| 12:20.25 | miten | liable: how can I find that out without asking them....as they seem to be not supporting linux |
| 12:20.30 | abrotman | liable: sure there is .. with all the isos :) |
| 12:20.35 | abrotman | miten: google? |
| 12:20.43 | abrotman | miten: "<yourisp> linux" |
| 12:20.43 | toresbe | Zusätzliche - what does this word mean? |
| 12:20.54 | abrotman | who are you asking ? |
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| 12:20.57 | miten | let me try that |
| 12:21.16 | liable | miten: ask them, what kind of connection it is, if they wont help, tell them to shove it up there ass.. :) |
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| 12:21.52 | bar` | hi guys, i just insatlled debian 3.1 (netinst), everything went okay til i boot and grub gives me error 18 |
| 12:22.04 | bar` | i can't boot debian, or anything at all |
| 12:22.14 | abrotman | toresbe: babelfish ? |
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| 12:22.40 | liable | bar`: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection |
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| 12:23.10 | liable | bar`: you need a boot partition at the start of the disk.. |
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| 12:23.52 | bar` | okay |
| 12:23.57 | bar` | how do i do it? |
| 12:24.12 | bar` | debian installer offered me partitioning and I just said okay |
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| 12:25.25 | liable | bar`: good question, I dont know if you can put it there without making space for it. |
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| 12:26.50 | luite | does anyone know how I can convince rsync to change the owner and group of the downloaded files to the original values on the remote server, even though it doesn't run as root? |
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| 12:27.15 | liable | bar`: is it an old motherboard? |
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| 12:28.18 | spudman2k | whats a good text based web browser? |
| 12:28.20 | bar` | hmm its a pentium ii, 800mhz |
| 12:28.28 | bar` | spudman2k; elinks, lynx |
| 12:28.31 | bar` | elink* |
| 12:28.34 | ImEatingPringles | spudman2k: lyn |
| 12:28.37 | ImEatingPringles | spudman2k: lynx |
| 12:28.37 | spudman2k | thanks bar* |
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| 12:29.12 | ImEatingPringles | is there a command to launch lynx in a different terminal window? |
| 12:29.24 | liable | bar`: try a bios update, otherwise you gonna have to make room for a /boot partition at the start of the disk. |
| 12:29.30 | spudman2k | wicked tiz on its way thanks guys |
| 12:29.38 | bar` | hmm |
| 12:29.39 | asg | ImEatingPringles: xterm -e lynx (will open another termina running lynx) |
| 12:29.51 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 12:29.51 | bar` | so i need a /boot parititon? |
| 12:29.52 | ImEatingPringles | asg: great thanks |
| 12:30.01 | asg | abrotman: hiya :) |
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| 12:30.20 | asg | !qotd140 |
| 12:30.20 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd140 is < greycat> either that, or fucking install mpg321. < Angel-SL> aptget < Angel-SL> ? < greycat> alias fucking=apt-get < greycat> fucking install mpg321 < asg> hah |
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| 12:30.41 | abrotman | asg: nice |
| 12:30.58 | asg | abrotman: best new one from last week |
| 12:31.30 | abrotman | !qotd139 |
| 12:31.30 | dpkg | i heard qotd139 is <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
| 12:31.51 | Shadowcat | uhhh |
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| 12:31.59 | Shadowcat | !qotd141 |
| 12:32.03 | Shadowcat | blegh |
| 12:32.05 | Shadowcat | no fun |
| 12:32.05 | abrotman | Shadowcat: now there yet |
| 12:32.08 | abrotman | err not there yet |
| 12:32.10 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 12:32.10 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd80 is <toresbe> Holy shit! <toresbe> My Ultra 1 is streaming kernel panics! <toresbe> oh crap - It's the BSOD screensaver <toresbe> I fall for that motherfucker every time |
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| 12:32.35 | Shadowcat | !qotd01 |
| 12:32.39 | Codemaster_ | hi all |
| 12:32.40 | Shadowcat | hmm.... |
| 12:32.49 | abrotman | Shadowcat: no .. qotd00 is a random one |
| 12:32.50 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 12:32.50 | dpkg | <fenix> My discover is problem people!!! Not find ide or scsi automatic <fenix> Help!! Discover Problem!!! PEOPLE!! <asg> fenix: yes discovering people can be a bit disconcerting |
| 12:32.52 | abrotman | see |
| 12:33.02 | bar` | how big is a boot parititon? |
| 12:33.08 | ImEatingPringles | lol |
| 12:33.11 | abrotman | normally about 20-50MB |
| 12:33.12 | asg | bar`: however big you want it. |
| 12:33.21 | Shadowcat | !qotd |
| 12:33.22 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". try qotd00 |
| 12:33.40 | ImEatingPringles | i think 10mb is the recommended (but check it out) |
| 12:33.44 | bar` | what is the factor to the size? |
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| 12:33.55 | bar` | i mean, how do the size influences? |
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| 12:34.20 | asg | bar`: it just holds kernel images and misc bits of grub (if you use grub). 50-100M is a good size |
| 12:34.30 | liable | how many kernel you want at a time? |
| 12:34.33 | bar` | one |
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| 12:35.01 | abrotman | you will probably have two |
| 12:35.17 | bar` | heh okay i chose 50 |
| 12:35.21 | bar` | is it logical or primary? |
| 12:35.22 | abrotman | good enough |
| 12:35.25 | liable | 50, should be fine. |
| 12:35.28 | abrotman | secondary! |
| 12:35.31 | abrotman | tertiary! |
| 12:35.31 | derflo | bar`: it depends on how many kernels you want to put on |
| 12:35.33 | abrotman | !coffee asg |
| 12:35.37 | asg | abrotman: he's probably got an 80G drive and he's worried about 50M vs. 100M |
| 12:35.44 | bar` | lol now |
| 12:35.48 | ImEatingPringles | okay cool. Lynx is now launching in an external terminal. Is there any way to control lynx from the initial terminal?? (ie pass the lynx terminal commands?) thanks |
| 12:35.48 | bar` | i have only 20gb |
| 12:35.49 | derflo | if you want to have 100 different kernels, you need more |
| 12:36.05 | abrotman | asg: i know |
| 12:36.05 | derflo | if you do only wont 1-2 kernels, less |
| 12:36.17 | liable | bar`: if you can make it primary, then do that. |
| 12:36.25 | bar` | ok, primary it is |
| 12:36.26 | abrotman | my /boot currently contains 13MB |
| 12:36.33 | abrotman | and i have two kernels in there |
| 12:36.39 | abrotman | and grub stuffs |
| 12:36.53 | derflo | my kernel is 1,2Meg + 4,6megs for initrd |
| 12:37.09 | liable | hmm, I got 4 and its 14? |
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| 12:37.20 | abrotman | liable: you compile your own? |
| 12:37.22 | derflo | but i do not have an extra boot-partition |
| 12:37.33 | liable | yeah, no initrd.. |
| 12:37.33 | abrotman | i don't either |
| 12:37.38 | abrotman | i was just saying how much was in it |
| 12:37.40 | abrotman | 13MB :) |
| 12:37.58 | derflo | liable: so no bootpsplash? |
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| 12:38.04 | liable | no |
| 12:38.08 | Codemaster_ | not sure i did it te right way, when i installed my debian i choosen a too small /usr part, i ve messed with fdisk and resize2fs to extend it but somehow i think this isn't really good anyone got another way ? |
| 12:38.09 | abrotman | derflo: who cares? :) |
| 12:38.18 | derflo | wich patches are in kernel-patches-2.6.11 ? |
| 12:38.30 | liable | ?? |
| 12:38.40 | derflo | abrotman: i tried that out - but it didn't work |
| 12:38.47 | liable | squeeze me? |
| 12:38.55 | abrotman | a baking powder |
| 12:39.05 | derflo | there's a package: kernel-patches-2.6.11. do you know wich patches are in debian-kernels? |
| 12:39.46 | bar` | if i have a boot parition (which is has a boot flag=on) does the '\' partition needs to be bootble as well? |
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| 12:39.53 | abrotman | nerp |
| 12:39.58 | abrotman | bar`: not you |
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| 12:40.09 | asg | Codemaster_: create a new partition in free space, copy the contents of /usr to the new partition, edit /etc/fstab. |
| 12:40.36 | derflo | bar`: do you mean "/"? |
| 12:40.41 | derflo | root? |
| 12:40.49 | asg | Codemaster_: alternately, if the majority of your used filesystem is /usr/local, you can move /usr/local to another partition easily. |
| 12:40.52 | bar` | yes |
| 12:40.57 | bar` | should it be bootable? |
| 12:41.02 | derflo | no |
| 12:41.02 | Codemaster_ | asg what is the differnce with the fdisk think ? |
| 12:41.08 | Codemaster_ | thing |
| 12:41.08 | liable | bar`: I dont think it matters, I have a / partition thats not got bootable flag, and it works... I must try and find out what that does one day.. :) |
| 12:41.19 | bar` | okay |
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| 12:41.25 | bar` | so /boot will boot up '/' ? |
| 12:41.25 | derflo | as far as i know, if you're using grub, no partition needs to be bootable |
| 12:41.39 | derflo | boot holds the kernel |
| 12:41.48 | asg | Codemaster_: nothing, if it worked. |
| 12:42.00 | derflo | and the kernel gets a parameter, telling him where / is |
| 12:42.05 | ptlis | Hi, i've got a laptop with and AMD64 CPU in it and want to install Etch on it, where would I go to find the correct ISO? |
| 12:42.14 | asg | ptlis: #debian-amd64 |
| 12:42.14 | derflo | via grub or whatever |
| 12:42.19 | liable | !amd64 |
| 12:42.20 | dpkg | from memory, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
| 12:42.27 | ptlis | asg: Thanks |
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| 12:42.55 | liable | security is out for amd-64 now :) |
| 12:43.15 | bar` | debian rule |
| 12:43.22 | teclo- | Hello. on a fresh sarge install, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesnt write a XF86Config-4 file... what is going on ? |
| 12:43.49 | Codemaster_ | asg, had to start in recovery mode, kill one or two processes, deleted partition, created a new one but bigger and then done resize2fs |
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| 12:44.48 | liable | teclo-: did you use xfconfig or edit it or use anything other than dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 12:45.15 | Codemaster_ | asg, but isn't there any more userfriendly method ? |
| 12:45.19 | liable | teclo-: you mean the file doesnt exist? |
| 12:45.35 | derflo | "xf86config" ? |
| 12:45.50 | liable | yeah somethin like that :P |
| 12:45.58 | asg | Codemaster_: no, not really. |
| 12:46.08 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 12:46.08 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 12:46.12 | teclo- | liable: uhhh maybe should I do x |
| 12:46.16 | teclo- | f86config |
| 12:46.21 | liable | teclo-: no. |
| 12:46.30 | liable | teclo-: does the file exist? |
| 12:46.42 | teclo- | liable: no, I erased it |
| 12:46.47 | liable | haha |
| 12:47.04 | teclo- | well at first it didnt work |
| 12:47.09 | liable | touch /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 12:47.21 | liable | then do the md5sum magic.. |
| 12:47.25 | Codemaster_ | asg, ;-) damn, althru thanks a lot, normally my debian box will be up soon, pfffiouw |
| 12:47.26 | teclo- | so I copied another XF86Config-4 from a backup |
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| 12:47.53 | derflo | did you install X.org? |
| 12:47.58 | liable | teclo-: run the md5sum on it, then try again. |
| 12:48.00 | derflo | or XFree? |
| 12:49.24 | teclo- | plus I have some other issue |
| 12:49.34 | Col_Kernel | hippie, I've several chroots on my system. Is there a way to share the apt cache among all of them (and the main installation)? |
| 12:49.40 | teclo- | I neeed the nvidia kernel drivers, and I'm using module-assistant to install them |
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| 12:49.55 | teclo- | but module-assistant says it can't find the nvidia kernel source |
| 12:50.10 | drac | teclo-: Add non-free and contrib to your sources.list, and run apt-get update. |
| 12:50.19 | teclo- | drac: ok :) |
| 12:50.27 | teclo- | drac: know an example of such entries ? |
| 12:50.43 | drac | teclo-: If you now have lines ending with 'main', make them end 'main contrib non-free' |
| 12:50.54 | teclo- | drac: ah ok thanksalo |
| 12:51.34 | liable | drac: you do x development? |
| 12:52.00 | liable | drac: you seem to know a lot about it :) |
| 12:52.34 | drac | liable: I'm aiming at that, meaning i'm still trying to learn. ;) |
| 12:52.47 | liable | drac: I remember you talking about it before with xorg and such.. |
| 12:53.07 | liable | drac: cool :) |
| 12:53.10 | abrotman | !tell edwards about away |
| 12:55.08 | Codemaster_ | grrr installation is f... long |
| 12:55.24 | derflo | bye |
| 12:55.41 | liable | Codemaster_: its ok, you can swear on #debian.. we dont mind. :P |
| 12:55.53 | Codemaster_ | lol |
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| 12:55.56 | drac | Could be cool, or will be cool but just scrambled information atm :P |
| 12:56.03 | Codemaster_ | well it's fucking long |
| 12:56.05 | liable | heh |
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| 12:57.08 | Karnaugh | holy smokes |
| 12:57.13 | Karnaugh | doesnt postgres ave an HTTP mirror? |
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| 12:58.12 | Codemaster_ | i'm installing with netinstall and had that partition problem so i need to do all the packages part again |
| 12:58.33 | liable | boot? |
| 12:58.34 | salsa2k | somebody knows how i configure webmin to receive access from any ip, internal ips or external ips? |
| 12:59.00 | abrotman | !WEBMIN |
| 12:59.00 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 12:59.06 | liable | salsa2k: ewww, I dont think you really want to do that |
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| 13:00.24 | abrotman | date can output unix clock? |
| 13:01.04 | abrotman | ah .. found it |
| 13:01.09 | asg | abrotman: date +%s |
| 13:01.16 | abrotman | asg: yeah .. i found it :) |
| 13:01.36 | salsa2k | liable: i need access from my server using webmin .... and using my external ip ... its possible? |
| 13:01.52 | smhar | !java |
| 13:01.52 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive, consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). |
| 13:02.24 | smhar | !install java |
| 13:02.24 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? If you're in sarge or sid, ask me about <java-package>. If you're in woody, grab java-package manually from http://packages.debian.org/java-package and then ask me about <java-package> for instructions on how to use it. Also, ask me about <java-package howto> |
| 13:02.28 | abrotman | salsa2k: use vi |
| 13:02.50 | asg | smhar: /msg the bot |
| 13:03.27 | Knorrie | whois dpkg |
| 13:03.32 | Knorrie | sorry |
| 13:03.34 | abrotman | dpkg: what are you |
| 13:03.34 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 13:03.52 | salsa2k | abrotman: i edit eh miniserv.conf .. and specific in allow=my.ip ... but ... the access in browser return: Error - Access denied for my-ip |
| 13:04.04 | Codemaster_ | !blootbot |
| 13:04.04 | dpkg | [blootbot] a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 13:04.04 | s_ward | I wouldn't ask him who he is... |
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| 13:04.12 | s_ward | actually |
| 13:04.18 | s_ward | dpkg: who are you? |
| 13:04.18 | dpkg | I'm a chimp! |
| 13:04.22 | s_ward | Yay! |
| 13:04.25 | abrotman | salsa2k: i don't use webmin .. there's no way i would *ever* use webmin .. i'd like to kill everyone who makes webmin possible ... |
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| 13:05.00 | takatumi | abrotman: terrorist. :P |
| 13:05.11 | Led_Zeppelin | how can I diagnose a bad internet connection? like to see how long it takes my system to google.com? |
| 13:05.14 | Led_Zeppelin | is there a tool for that? |
| 13:05.31 | Codemaster_ | okay going for the final reboot now lets give it a shot |
| 13:05.34 | abrotman | takatumi: or darwinist .. only time will decide :) |
| 13:05.35 | bip | yes ping |
| 13:05.45 | bip | ping www.google.com |
| 13:05.48 | rhalff | hi I just installed debian, but didn't really do a full install, I have this weird thing that I'm not able to su to root from within a console in xfce. ? |
| 13:06.00 | bip | and check ping times Led_Zeppelin |
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| 13:06.39 | smhar | dpkg: how to install java |
| 13:06.47 | abrotman | takatumi: see .. i weeded that one out :) |
| 13:06.48 | vivek | is there a way to convert an svcd file to *.mpg file ? |
| 13:06.54 | asg | smhar: /msg dpkg install java ; /msg dpkg java-package |
| 13:06.55 | takatumi | Codemaster_: it's the path that is most exhilarating, rather than the summit. |
| 13:07.13 | takatumi | abrotman: ;) |
| 13:07.17 | asg | vivek: mencoder might be able to |
| 13:07.27 | smhar | asg, thanks |
| 13:07.33 | vivek | hey porn on join .... |
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| 13:07.42 | vivek | tnx asg |
| 13:07.54 | vivek | any ops around ? |
| 13:07.55 | abrotman | i didn't get any pr0n ... |
| 13:07.58 | Codemaster_ | takatumi, indeed ;-) |
| 13:08.02 | vivek | can you please ban Bass ? |
| 13:08.15 | abrotman | !ops Bass on-join porn spam |
| 13:08.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Bass on-join porn spam |
| 13:08.20 | vivek | abrotman: quit and rejoin .... |
| 13:08.27 | abrotman | vivek: i did .. see above |
| 13:08.33 | liable | we dont seem to have ops much lately.. :( |
| 13:08.40 | abrotman | i haven't seen one all morning |
| 13:08.41 | asg | liable: it's the weekend |
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| 13:08.56 | abrotman | RichiH: spam! |
| 13:08.59 | abrotman | of course |
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| 13:09.26 | liable | asg: doesnt matter, during the week too it seems lately. |
| 13:09.36 | abrotman | liable: join the club :) |
| 13:09.47 | Codemaster_ | eeeek, Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display manager |
| 13:09.54 | asg | liable: well, greycat is one days between 7-8am and 4-5pm (EDT) |
| 13:09.59 | asg | s/one/on/ |
| 13:10.50 | liable | asg: yeah, I know he is, he leaves just after I wake up, and joins just before I go to bed :) |
| 13:11.02 | s_ward | greycat's lurking in #bah, but not here, strangely enough |
| 13:11.10 | liable | asg: I'm in a bad time zone :) |
| 13:11.10 | asg | liable: we are on the same schedule |
| 13:11.12 | s_ward | s/#bah/#bash/ |
| 13:11.12 | Led_Zeppelin | hip: ping times are fine. |
| 13:11.18 | vivek | "We want more porridge" |
| 13:11.23 | Led_Zeppelin | hippie, ping tims are fine... |
| 13:11.28 | Led_Zeppelin | i still get very slow performance |
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| 13:11.42 | theblue_ | Hi all. |
| 13:12.07 | asg | liable: isn't bob2 on when you're awake? |
| 13:12.08 | liable | vivek: More! you want MORE? |
| 13:12.17 | abrotman | asg: normally bob is around now ... |
| 13:12.28 | liable | asg: bob2 doesnt seem to hang here much anymore. |
| 13:12.42 | asg | abrotman: I thought he went back to regular time due to having a job? |
| 13:12.55 | asg | liable: #ubuntu? |
| 13:12.56 | abrotman | asg: regular time in .ua :) |
| 13:12.59 | abrotman | err .au |
| 13:13.07 | liable | asg: I see him on ubuntu, I have even asked in ubuntu, if he could kick someone in here! |
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| 13:13.33 | takatumi | another one bites the dust. |
| 13:13.34 | liable | asg: he did, then left again.. |
| 13:13.49 | asg | liable: yes, maybe we should petition EE for op status for some weekend regulars. |
| 13:13.56 | abrotman | takatumi: ? |
| 13:14.00 | pngwn | bob2 is idle in here now |
| 13:14.06 | abrotman | pngwn: duh :) |
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| 13:14.20 | liable | asg: yeah. |
| 13:14.21 | abrotman | asg: uhm ... i think that's been mentioned .. |
| 13:14.28 | asg | abrotman: what was the verdict? |
| 13:14.47 | Codemaster_ | how do i configure KDE, somehowe it went wrong with base-config |
| 13:14.53 | Led_Zeppelin | its like, I am getting speeds like 5.6KB per sec |
| 13:14.56 | abrotman | asg: i don't know if they've discussed it .. i've even seen it mentioned in #freenode |
| 13:14.56 | Led_Zeppelin | things like that |
| 13:15.02 | asg | abrotman: ah, okay |
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| 13:15.14 | abrotman | asg: somehow .. i doubt it would happen ... |
| 13:15.18 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: maybe a duplex mismatch. |
| 13:15.22 | abrotman | asg: who would you nominate? |
| 13:15.30 | abrotman | asg: pick 5! |
| 13:15.35 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, 10/100 Full |
| 13:15.37 | Led_Zeppelin | just checked |
| 13:15.50 | asg | abrotman: I'd rather the existing ops decide amongst themselves who they think are likely candidates. |
| 13:15.58 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: same on your switch? |
| 13:16.02 | abrotman | asg: ah .. come on .. you can pick five .. it will be fun :) |
| 13:16.11 | liable | mwilson! |
| 13:16.14 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, no switch, direct link to cable modem |
| 13:16.19 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, patch cable, btw |
| 13:16.23 | abrotman | liable: but noone would be able to speak :) |
| 13:16.31 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: any errors in /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 13:17.00 | takatumi | abrotman: I got the message, if that's what you after. |
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| 13:17.13 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, none...none dropped, or overruns |
| 13:17.33 | abrotman | takatumi: ? |
| 13:17.34 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: hmmm, odd. |
| 13:17.44 | takatumi | abrotman: the pornspambot? |
| 13:17.47 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, is there a tool to see how long it takes me to hit google (gatway->some site->some site->google) ? |
| 13:17.48 | Led_Zeppelin | like that |
| 13:17.54 | abrotman | takatumi: no .. i just wanted to make sure he was still doing it .. i just msg'd a staffer marked as active |
| 13:17.54 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: traceroute |
| 13:17.55 | bar` | on debian netinst i chose 'select packages manully' and some packages were downloaded and installed but i couldnt choose other options |
| 13:17.59 | Althaser | how can i disable the log Inbound IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=***.***.***.** DST=***.***.***.*** LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x20 TTL=125 ID=17817 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4846 DPT=445 WINDOW=30000 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 please ?? |
| 13:18.04 | bar` | how do i return to the netinst menu? |
| 13:18.04 | asg | Althaser: /msg dpkg klogd |
| 13:18.05 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, aa right! |
| 13:18.06 | bar` | from console |
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| 13:18.15 | abrotman | asg: not gonna give five eh? :) |
| 13:18.16 | asg | bar`: ALT+F1 |
| 13:18.20 | asg | abrotman: I'm thinking |
| 13:18.25 | liable | !console dropped packets |
| 13:18.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, console dropped packets is to stop iptables/your firewall logging dropped packets to console, edit /etc/init.d/klogd and add -c 2 to the end of the start line of the script. Restart klogd. |
| 13:18.31 | Codemaster_ | is there any way to reconfigure the desktop environment ? |
| 13:18.33 | asg | abrotman: I'd say at least Guerin and you |
| 13:18.46 | joefso | is sid less unstable then before? Or are there still dependencys of vital programs that are broken? |
| 13:19.05 | abrotman | asg: i'd pick you .. shinguoz .. hexxeh if he were still here .. i'm not sure who's around at 4am :) |
| 13:19.07 | asg | joefso: yes, the ABI transition and Xorg stuff made unstable more unstable that before. |
| 13:19.08 | Althaser | asg thanks :D |
| 13:19.11 | Led_Zeppelin | yikes! 73.169 MS to hit google! |
| 13:19.23 | abrotman | asg: oh .. and mwilso |
| 13:19.25 | abrotman | err .. on |
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| 13:19.34 | joefso | asg So I read, but could you tell me something more about the current status of those.. |
| 13:19.35 | Led_Zeppelin | can someone please find me the tech support number of RoadRuner? I would check but it would take me 10 days to get to their site |
| 13:19.49 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: know the url ? |
| 13:19.52 | abrotman | nm |
| 13:20.01 | theblue_ | Would the debian net installer work with a netgear MA311 802.11b PCI card? |
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| 13:20.07 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, help.rr.com |
| 13:20.12 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, thanks! |
| 13:20.27 | asg | joefso: well, Xorg is mostly in and stabilized, the gcc stuff is mostly in. I haven't tried to compile qmail-qfilter, which wouldn't compile due to gcc a few weeks back. |
| 13:20.32 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: i need your ISP/state/city :) |
| 13:20.40 | Led_Zeppelin | http://help.rr.com/HMSFaqs/e_browsersetup.aspx |
| 13:20.54 | asg | abrotman: yes, mwilson. I'd also consider baloo but he's not on very often. |
| 13:20.56 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, umm, state=ohio city=columbus |
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| 13:21.18 | bar` | i want to install a desktop on my new debian sys |
| 13:21.20 | joefso | What programs make use of mailcap, a more acurate question would be: How can I find out which programs uses mailcap, I know firefox does, but are there any other programs next to that, and what ways are there to find out, any programs, or cool tricks? |
| 13:21.21 | bar` | how do i do it? |
| 13:21.22 | asg | abrotman: and asuffield |
| 13:21.28 | liable | jm_! |
| 13:21.29 | dv__ | hey |
| 13:21.30 | Led_Zeppelin | asg, i have iptraf running, and I can only get packets from size 1 to 75 |
| 13:21.30 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: i got that :) |
| 13:21.35 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, thanks! |
| 13:21.38 | dv__ | debian unstable is utterly broken, right? |
| 13:21.38 | Led_Zeppelin | lemme get my phone |
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| 13:21.43 | abrotman | asg: now we just have to get EE to do it :) |
| 13:21.53 | asg | liable: yeah, jm_ is a good choice |
| 13:21.53 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: no .. i meant your city/state :) |
| 13:22.08 | asg | dv__: it's working for me as of this morning |
| 13:22.10 | liable | asg: indeed, a very sane person :) |
| 13:22.11 | joefso | asg I c, why didn't it go in exp first? then into unstable? |
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| 13:22.24 | bar` | asg; how do i install a desktop? |
| 13:22.28 | bar` | apt-get install icewm? |
| 13:22.34 | asg | joefso: it did, but some breakage was required to get it into unstable. |
| 13:22.44 | asg | bar`: yes, that will work if you want icewm |
| 13:22.52 | js_ | i got both apache and apache-ssl installed, but im having problems getting php4 to work with apache-ssl, is there soemthing special i need to do to make php4 work with apache-ssl? i tried copying the php4.conf and modules from apache to the apache-ssl dirs with no luck |
| 13:22.53 | dv__ | asg, I tried to install kde and gnome. |
| 13:23.01 | dv__ | I had to install tons of packages manually |
| 13:23.16 | dv__ | because apt-get refused to install lots of stuff itself |
| 13:23.18 | bip | tasksel |
| 13:23.24 | bip | pick desktop |
| 13:23.25 | asg | dv__: I don't run either of those so I can't comment on their stability in unstable. |
| 13:23.26 | dv__ | and this is a fresh debian install |
| 13:23.35 | liable | that wont give you icewm.. |
| 13:23.36 | bip | that will instal you kde and gnome |
| 13:23.41 | bip | well |
| 13:23.46 | dv__ | bip, I tried that too. |
| 13:23.47 | bip | he can hadd that later |
| 13:23.47 | asg | dv__: /msg dpkg install kde, /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 13:24.11 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: For answers to your questions regarding hardware, software or performance issues, please contact Technical Support at 614-487-7766 or 877-317-7766 (Voice). Hearing impaired customers can contact 877-311-8333 (TTY) for technical support. |
| 13:24.12 | bar` | asg; I'm using netinst, after choosing a mirror I was given the option to choose to download "Desktop, File Server, Mail Server, etc" but I chose "Selecet Packages Manually", it downloaded stuff and installed them, then it said my debian is ready, i'm not sure what happend there |
| 13:24.37 | asg | bar`: oh, that was just the base aptitude driven install. |
| 13:24.38 | liable | dv__: do you really have to run sid? |
| 13:24.58 | asg | bar`: it doesn't install X by default. What Desktop environment do you want? |
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| 13:25.04 | bar` | a simple one |
| 13:25.08 | asg | abrotman: /whois asg :p |
| 13:25.11 | dv__ | liable, yes |
| 13:25.12 | bar` | simplistic |
| 13:25.14 | bar` | lite |
| 13:25.20 | dv__ | everything else does not run on my laptop |
| 13:25.23 | bar` | no eye-candy what-so-ever |
| 13:25.30 | asg | bar`: then try fluxbox (apt-get install fluxbox x-window-system) |
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| 13:25.42 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, thx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:25.43 | abrotman | asg: haha! .. your mom named you adam ...! .. she must be british or something |
| 13:25.44 | bar` | will it install x and all the libaries with it? |
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| 13:25.51 | liable | dv__: well, work it out yourself then :P |
| 13:25.59 | dv__ | I tried |
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| 13:26.04 | dv__ | but its hopeless |
| 13:26.08 | liable | dv__: all part of the fun :) |
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| 13:26.19 | abrotman | asg: oh .. the rr.com thing huh ? |
| 13:26.27 | Salacryl | hi |
| 13:26.28 | asg | abrotman: yes, they are pretty good down here. |
| 13:26.30 | dv__ | does the gcc4 port break that much? |
| 13:26.37 | liable | dv__: try just kde-base or something.. |
| 13:26.39 | asg | bar`: yes |
| 13:26.43 | dv__ | liable, didnt work |
| 13:26.47 | bar` | okay |
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| 13:26.57 | dv__ | I had to track down the noninstallable packages by hand |
| 13:27.02 | dv__ | which was *not* fun |
| 13:27.11 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: yeah .. i told #freenode, cybersystem and christel ... and it's still happening .. /stats p shows "active" staff |
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| 13:27.19 | Salacryl | ist gnome broken on unstable? |
| 13:27.20 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: and we did the !ops |
| 13:27.22 | Salacryl | -t |
| 13:27.31 | abrotman | Salacryl: you tell us |
| 13:27.34 | dv__ | the whole point of a package system is not to have to track down the deps manually :) |
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| 13:27.52 | asg | dv__: yes but unstable is not guaranteed to work at any time |
| 13:28.00 | Salacryl | abrotman, debs on gnome-desktop-enviroment are broken |
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| 13:28.07 | dv__ | i know. but as I said, only sid stuff works on my laptop :/ |
| 13:28.09 | abrotman | define broken .. and check BTS |
| 13:28.25 | Codemaster_ | anyone has an idea of the settings for xfree on a virtual machine ? |
| 13:28.25 | asg | dv__: and sarge doesn't? |
| 13:28.27 | dv__ | no |
| 13:28.29 | Salacryl | because evince has debs to libcairo1 which is not available yet |
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| 13:28.40 | asg | dv__: in what way doesn't it work? |
| 13:28.40 | abrotman | !deps evince |
| 13:28.42 | dv__ | it absolutely requires x, a 2.6.11 kernel, hal, udev... |
| 13:28.45 | liable | dv__: its not tha broken, you should be able to install *a* wm, without hassle.. |
| 13:28.47 | abrotman | isn't evince E17 ? |
| 13:28.48 | dv__ | x.org that is |
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| 13:28.55 | asg | dv__: x.org isn't in sarge |
| 13:28.59 | dv__ | abrotman, no thats evidence |
| 13:29.05 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
| 13:29.06 | dv__ | asg, right. thats why I need sid |
| 13:29.09 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 13:29.09 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 13:29.16 | liable | dv__: nvidia? |
| 13:29.17 | asg | dv__: there are x.org backports for sarge |
| 13:29.20 | Salacryl | don't know, but there is only libcairo0.6.0 |
| 13:29.25 | abrotman | !depends evince |
| 13:29.26 | dv__ | asg, and what about the rest? |
| 13:29.28 | dpkg | evince: depends on libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libbonobo2-0 (>= 2.8.0), libbonoboui2-0 (>= 2.5.4), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libcairo1 (>= 0.4.0), libdjvulibre1, libesd0 (>= 0.2.29-1) | libesd-alsa0 (>= 0.2.29-1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libgconf2-4 (>= 2.8.1), libgcrypt11, libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.4.2-2), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), ... |
| 13:29.37 | abrotman | !info libcairo1 |
| 13:29.38 | asg | dv__: compile your own 2.6.11 or 2.6.12 kernel if you must |
| 13:29.52 | liable | dv__: installing a newer kernel in sarge is trivial.. |
| 13:29.58 | abrotman | Salacryl: did you check the bts? |
| 13:29.59 | dv__ | did just that. but hal and udev support do not work in sarge |
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| 13:30.06 | Salacryl | otherwise gpdf doesn't work too |
| 13:30.10 | joefso | Are there any programs that allow me to find out what dependecy a package includes? |
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| 13:30.16 | dv__ | also, powernowd does NOT work in sarge |
| 13:30.21 | dv__ | not with my laptop |
| 13:30.25 | liable | joefso: apt-cache depends foo |
| 13:30.40 | dv__ | and I'm not keen on having my laptop running hot all the time |
| 13:30.49 | dv__ | anyway, have to hack around |
| 13:30.53 | asg | dv__: then use sid and deal with the breakage. |
| 13:30.56 | liable | dv__: what lappie? |
| 13:30.58 | dv__ | yeah |
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| 13:31.04 | dv__ | liable, asus |
| 13:31.08 | Salacryl | because gnome-desktop-eviroment link to gpdf >=2.10 |
| 13:31.20 | Salacryl | and 2.8 is only available |
| 13:31.23 | dv__ | right |
| 13:31.42 | liable | !tardware |
| 13:31.42 | dpkg | hmm... tardware is the sort of hardware which doesn't have drivers or spec released for it, and consequently doesn't work on any real OS. Notable examples include lexmark printers, winmodems, promise raid cards and cheap digital cameras. Tard if you make 'em, tard if you buy 'em. Ask me about <supported by>. |
| 13:32.00 | dv__ | liable, gimme money, then I can afford an IBM |
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| 13:32.12 | Salacryl | so, shall I remove gnome-core? |
| 13:32.13 | liable | dv__: heh, no :P |
| 13:32.21 | Codemaster_ | found for xfree, there is a vmware, driver |
| 13:32.23 | dv__ | you know, there are people who cant afford expensive ones |
| 13:32.38 | joefso | liable: I know of that one, I was meaning I want to list all packages that depends on foo. For example listing all packages that depend on mailcap. |
| 13:32.43 | Salacryl | because I don't think, that gnome is running stable now +ss* |
| 13:32.45 | liable | dv__: you can but a second hand thinkpad for fuck all.. |
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| 13:33.04 | dv__ | liable, they dont have a 3d graphics chip. and I need one. |
| 13:33.25 | liable | dv__: you do graphics? |
| 13:33.32 | dv__ | this is why I need x.org. the ati drivers work worse with the xfree's |
| 13:33.35 | dv__ | liable, yes |
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| 13:33.45 | dv__ | development, some modeling etc. |
| 13:33.57 | liable | dv__: standard ati works on my thinkpad with xfree.. |
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| 13:34.15 | dv__ | and for dev I need shader-capable GL accelerated hardware |
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| 13:34.20 | liable | 7500 |
| 13:34.44 | liable | dv__: well, bug your boss for a good lappie :) |
| 13:34.47 | dv__ | and shader-capable means at least a 9200 or fx5200 |
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| 13:34.57 | Salacryl | abrotman: gnome starts, but ... the display is a little bit strange |
| 13:35.02 | liable | yay! |
| 13:35.04 | dv__ | liable, this isn't a job |
| 13:35.06 | dv__ | :P |
| 13:35.09 | abrotman | Salacryl: strange? |
| 13:35.15 | abrotman | Salacryl: did you check the bts .. at all? |
| 13:35.25 | liable | who klined him? |
| 13:35.27 | Codemaster_ | i can't get mine he claims he can't find any screen |
| 13:35.29 | abrotman | fianlly |
| 13:35.33 | Salacryl | i can't shrink the panels under the amount of 43 pixels |
| 13:35.33 | ankon | could someone kick/ban Bass for announcing "Free Porno Videos" on join? |
| 13:35.36 | abrotman | liable: i asked every 'active' staffer |
| 13:35.40 | ankon | ty |
| 13:35.40 | asg | ankon: it's being worked on |
| 13:35.43 | abrotman | liable: /stats p |
| 13:35.43 | liable | !beer abrotman |
| 13:36.20 | liable | !beer active staffers |
| 13:36.53 | abrotman | liable: how'd you know i like yuengling ? |
| 13:37.06 | liable | abrotman: the force! :P |
| 13:37.07 | asg | abrotman: oh, LSorense_ would be a good candidate |
| 13:37.13 | Salacryl | ok, well .. i think you're busy |
| 13:37.19 | liable | already an op? |
| 13:37.31 | abrotman | asg: i thought he was staff .. ? |
| 13:37.52 | abrotman | oh .. maybe that's Rez |
| 13:38.07 | asg | abrotman: if he's staff, it isn't obvious. |
| 13:38.09 | abrotman | asg: but he doesn't seem to be around that much |
| 13:38.18 | abrotman | asg: no .. rez is staff i think |
| 13:38.42 | priest | i |
| 13:38.48 | abrotman | you |
| 13:38.51 | asuffield | only greycat is around that much. poor bastard is addicted to lusers |
| 13:39.01 | asg | asuffield: he doesn't do weekends though |
| 13:39.05 | abrotman | asuffield: you're here too |
| 13:39.13 | asuffield | only intermittently |
| 13:39.37 | asuffield | I glance through for ten minutes or so every few hours |
| 13:39.54 | abrotman | asuffield: you're here too? |
| 13:39.55 | abrotman | bah |
| 13:40.03 | abrotman | asuffield: do you ding when highlighted? |
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| 13:40.24 | bar` | asg; i configured x, but appearntly not well, i try to 'startx' but i get some errors |
| 13:40.32 | asuffield | no. I have radio headphones, not speakers, and they're on the charging stand most of the time |
| 13:40.34 | bar` | the /dev/input/mice is not found |
| 13:40.43 | abrotman | asuffield: ah |
| 13:40.44 | asg | bar`: what kernel are you using? |
| 13:40.45 | bar` | how can I change it to ttyX or anything else? |
| 13:40.46 | liable | bar`: /var/log/xfree86.0.log |
| 13:40.54 | abrotman | and what kind of mouse ? |
| 13:41.01 | asg | !drxx bar` |
| 13:41.01 | dpkg | bar`: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:41.15 | asg | bar`: pick /dev/psaux when you get to the mouse bit |
| 13:41.22 | takatumi | dv__: check this out re: laptop heat. http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling which graphics card is it? |
| 13:41.50 | liable | bar`: or wrong protocol.. |
| 13:41.56 | liable | ps2 |
| 13:41.59 | abrotman | or use auto |
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| 13:43.04 | liable | theres a new xorg package that actually found my mouse for the first time, automagically :) |
| 13:43.22 | abrotman | asg: do you have to run sid to be an op? |
| 13:43.30 | asg | abrotman: no |
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| 13:43.38 | asg | abrotman: greycat runs HP-UX most days |
| 13:43.43 | abrotman | asg: are you sure .. i mean .. sid is l33t! |
| 13:43.54 | cahoot | I have set fileencoding=utf-8 in .vimrc - still I need to add ':e ++enc=utf-8' to really get utf-8 - why is this? |
| 13:43.55 | abrotman | asg: i'd run solaris i if i had a sparc box still ... |
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| 13:43.56 | liable | what would that have to do with it? |
| 13:43.58 | asuffield | if your mouse is behind /dev/input/mice then it'll just work. otherwise it needs mdetect |
| 13:44.04 | abrotman | liable: i was joking |
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| 13:44.05 | asg | abrotman: I have a few sun blade 100s at work |
| 13:44.07 | asuffield | (and probably won't work) |
| 13:44.13 | abrotman | asg: can you send me one? |
| 13:44.17 | abrotman | asg: wait .. 100s ? |
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| 13:44.24 | abrotman | asg: those are the thin clients? |
| 13:44.33 | asg | abrotman: no, they are full systems |
| 13:44.39 | w00ter | I am gonna use another computer as a server, I'd like to migrate all the users. Is this difficult? |
| 13:44.43 | asuffield | abrotman: a more correct term would be "puny clients" |
| 13:44.45 | abrotman | asg: send to PA! :) |
| 13:44.53 | w00ter | All the users is about 10 of them |
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| 13:45.00 | abrotman | what was the name of the sun thin client ? |
| 13:45.09 | abrotman | oh . sun ray |
| 13:45.15 | eJumbo | hello. when i run gqview: i does not display my image files and get the following messages on console: http://pastebin.ca/19933 |
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| 13:45.47 | asuffield | you can run desktop stuff on a blade 100. just not much of it. |
| 13:45.49 | phlax | hi there - im trying to install deb on a remote machine using debootstrap - i have tried 4 versions so far - all have failed - mostly trying to retrieve gcc-3.* - any ideas? |
| 13:45.57 | asg | abrotman: well, we have 16 for a lab but they were never used. I've claimed them for cheap test hardware. If they ever go up for auction, I'll put a bid in. |
| 13:46.12 | asuffield | so you can run firefox and emacs there, but you're going to be running gcc someplace else |
| 13:46.19 | abrotman | asg: yeah .. stupid state stuff .. can't just 'disappear' :) |
| 13:46.44 | Salacryl | abrotman?? |
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| 13:46.51 | asg | abrotman: right. We have probably 2000 or so Optiplex GX110s in storage waiting to go to state auction. |
| 13:46.59 | abrotman | Salacryl: i had cheese for lunch |
| 13:47.17 | Salacryl | here a screen ... that demonstrate the strangehttp://deliancourt.dyndns.org/img/screen.png |
| 13:47.19 | Salacryl | http://deliancourt.dyndns.org/img/screen.png |
| 13:47.21 | abrotman | asg: state sucks .. i went to a state uni and worked for the IT dept .. what a pile of horse poo :) |
| 13:47.46 | abrotman | Salacryl: uhm .. that's strange? |
| 13:48.00 | abrotman | asg: at least in the way they dispose of stuff |
| 13:48.07 | asg | abrotman: true. |
| 13:48.13 | Salacryl | isn't it? |
| 13:48.19 | Salacryl | the panels are to big |
| 13:48.22 | abrotman | Salacryl: you tell me .. .ooks fine to me |
| 13:48.23 | asg | abrotman: I'm still waiting to decom the E250 so I can snag it for personal use. |
| 13:48.32 | abrotman | Salacryl: oh .. right click .. go to properties .. change thier size |
| 13:48.41 | Salacryl | i know ok |
| 13:48.43 | abrotman | asg: just an E250 .. you poor soul |
| 13:48.52 | asuffield | yeah, need some more zeros |
| 13:48.55 | Salacryl | but 43 pixel are minimum |
| 13:48.57 | asuffield | like an E25000 or whatever |
| 13:48.59 | Salacryl | but why?? |
| 13:49.11 | asg | abrotman: well, we heard the other day that the integration team working on the 6800 said it wasn't balsy enough and that we really need more horsepower. |
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| 13:49.30 | takatumi | phlax: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314858 |
| 13:49.41 | abrotman | asg: that's so sad :) |
| 13:49.45 | asg | asuffield: I'd rather just have one of our blade center racks |
| 13:50.00 | abrotman | asg: http://www.anysystem.com/sunblade-special-2.html |
| 13:50.04 | KomiaPoika | asg what 6800 are you talking about? |
| 13:50.13 | abrotman | KomiaPoika: Sun 6800 |
| 13:50.13 | asg | KomiaPoika: the one at work. |
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| 13:50.32 | KomiaPoika | ow |
| 13:50.41 | Salacryl | well, ok I think, after 5 Years of debian I should chenge the distri |
| 13:50.49 | abrotman | ok |
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| 13:50.58 | liable | ubuntu! |
| 13:51.03 | asg | abrotman: that's a 1000 model, the 100s are much weaker |
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| 13:51.14 | abrotman | asg: i know .. but it's only 1k :) |
| 13:51.22 | abrotman | asg: the 100s are like a Celeron :) |
| 13:51.25 | asuffield | asg: anyway, the trick is this: don't write off the equipment for sale. mark it as 'in long-term storage', and then store it at your house |
| 13:51.29 | asg | asuffield: heh |
| 13:51.35 | takatumi | phlax: might be unrelated... |
| 13:51.36 | asg | asuffield: of course :) |
| 13:52.00 | Salacryl | really, a rude channel ... |
| 13:52.03 | asg | asuffield: I've got an R40 and Cpi using that strategy. |
| 13:52.13 | liable | Salacryl: what? here? |
| 13:52.19 | Salacryl | yes |
| 13:52.24 | liable | Salacryl: why? |
| 13:52.26 | abrotman | what the hell |
| 13:52.37 | Salacryl | first: porn greetings ... |
| 13:52.48 | abrotman | Salacryl: bot .. been klined |
| 13:52.57 | asuffield | he probably wants some porn |
| 13:52.58 | abrotman | Salacryl: /cycle and see if it happens again |
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| 13:53.00 | concept10 | abrotman, I need some advice |
| 13:53.03 | liable | oh yes, we have debian porn bots!! |
| 13:53.07 | abrotman | concept10: eat more beans |
| 13:53.14 | Salacryl | second unacceptable answers |
| 13:53.19 | asuffield | so hit up fleshbot and pick your perversion |
| 13:53.26 | abrotman | ok .. fine .. don't check the bts |
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| 13:53.29 | concept10 | abrotman, no - my system is clean |
| 13:53.32 | abrotman | and your screenshot seems fine |
| 13:53.38 | liable | Salacryl: when you start paying us, we will be more acceptable.. |
| 13:53.55 | phlax | takatumi: i think this is a different bug |
| 13:54.01 | Salacryl | well, ... fine |
| 13:54.18 | abrotman | Salacryl: which distro will you choose? |
| 13:54.28 | Salacryl | freebsd ... |
| 13:54.32 | liable | Salacryl: we *are* volunteers after all.. |
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| 13:54.52 | abrotman | i still don't understand what problem he's having |
| 13:54.53 | Salacryl | liable, I know, I'm too |
| 13:55.07 | HopeSeekr | i have gcc gcc-3.3 gcc-3.4 gcc-4.0 i want to make gcc-4.0 the default (eg gcc) can i just overwrite /usr/bin/gcc symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0? |
| 13:55.07 | liable | abrotman: me either. |
| 13:55.14 | concept10 | abrotman, I want to use the ubuntu hardware info collector to update a database with all hardware on end-users computers. What resource could I possibly use to find and collect the drivers that different hardware uses? |
| 13:55.24 | takatumi | phlax: checked if there are any other similar to yours? |
| 13:55.33 | abrotman | concept10: i have no idea what the ubuntu hardware collector is |
| 13:55.37 | Salacryl | abrotman that gnome I installed isn't working how discriped ... |
| 13:55.49 | concept10 | abrotman, okay, second question |
| 13:55.52 | abrotman | Salacryl: but your screen shot seems perfectly fine |
| 13:55.54 | HopeSeekr | my question should be trivial... |
| 13:55.59 | abrotman | Salacryl: that's why i'm confused :) |
| 13:56.00 | Salacryl | second ... i just tell you about the deps for gnome |
| 13:56.21 | liable | HopeSeekr: if you installed it, it will be default.. |
| 13:56.25 | abrotman | Salacryl: yes .. you're running sid(aka Unstable) .. libcairo1 is probably in incoming and will arrive in sid later today |
| 13:56.31 | abrotman | !incoming |
| 13:56.31 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, incoming is to be used at your own risk, packages are even dodgier than unstable(see break) but can be got from http://incoming.debian.org/ (but not ftp), or http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources#s-incoming-system |
| 13:56.43 | abrotman | well .. not today :) |
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| 13:57.03 | Salacryl | thanks abrotman ... that is a nice answer thank very much :-) |
| 13:57.21 | Salacryl | ok but in few days ... it's okay |
| 13:57.26 | concept10 | abrotman, http://justfloss.blogspot.com/ check the screen shot if you dont mind. |
| 13:57.28 | abrotman | Salacryl: probably yes .. |
| 13:57.30 | Salacryl | ankon? |
| 13:57.41 | abrotman | ankon? |
| 13:57.51 | abrotman | concept10: and? |
| 13:57.53 | Salacryl | yes a buddy of mine |
| 13:58.08 | HopeSeekr | i have gcc gcc-3.3 gcc-3.4 gcc-4.0 i want to make gcc-4.0 the default (eg gcc) can i just overwrite /usr/bin/gcc symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0? |
| 13:58.21 | Salacryl | he could better explain why the screen don't look perfect |
| 13:58.22 | abrotman | Salacryl: oh ok |
| 13:58.35 | abrotman | HopeSeekr: update-alternatives |
| 13:58.43 | concept10 | abrotman, thats just a screenshot, okay - Im just asking for insight on how I may go about finding different drivers for all linux compatible hardware |
| 13:59.10 | bar` | jessu |
| 13:59.15 | abrotman | concept10: oh jeez .. no idea .. do you mean just GPL stuff .. or everything? |
| 13:59.21 | w00ter | Is there an easy way to move users from one computer to another? |
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| 13:59.41 | liable | w00ter: drag there chair? |
| 13:59.46 | abrotman | thier |
| 13:59.48 | abrotman | bah |
| 13:59.51 | liable | bah |
| 13:59.51 | w00ter | their? |
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| 14:00.05 | w00ter | Nah, you get what I mean |
| 14:00.06 | abrotman | yeah well |
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| 14:00.33 | abrotman | w00ter: move theird passwd .. or their home dir .. or both ? |
| 14:00.37 | concept10 | for example, someone has some NIC or WLAN card, or whatever. I want to make a database on what distro they use blah blah and what driver supports the hardware. I think something like the ubuntu hw info collector could achieve this along with something else |
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| 14:00.44 | liable | w00ter: adduser, then cp /home? |
| 14:00.47 | w00ter | I am upgrading our router/fileserver/*server and don't want to create new accounts. I'd like to just move em |
| 14:00.49 | phlax | takatumi: i think the problem arose from running the different versions. I cleared out /target and started again with more success. thanx. |
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| 14:01.10 | bar` | okay |
| 14:01.12 | w00ter | Sounds like a plan. |
| 14:01.20 | bar` | where do i change the mouse device? |
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| 14:01.29 | bar` | in xfree86.conf? |
| 14:01.39 | w00ter | adduser will ask for passwords right/ |
| 14:01.43 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:01.44 | liable | bar`: do it with dpkg. |
| 14:01.47 | w00ter | That's what I want to avoid |
| 14:01.51 | bar` | dpkg? |
| 14:01.56 | bar` | how do i do it? |
| 14:01.57 | liable | !drxx bar` |
| 14:01.58 | dpkg | bar`: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 14:02.05 | w00ter | I really don't want to go over 12 times passwording |
| 14:02.16 | w00ter | With housemates that aren't around and shit |
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| 14:02.43 | bar` | dpkg-reconfigure no such command |
| 14:02.46 | w00ter | I'd like them to keep the passwd's they have on the current server and just be able to copy it over ;) |
| 14:03.04 | liable | bar`: as root |
| 14:03.24 | petemc | w00ter: you can copy entries from shadow and passwd, man pwconv |
| 14:04.01 | liable | asg: petemc is another! :) |
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| 14:04.33 | w00ter | thnx petemc will have a looksee |
| 14:05.18 | petemc | liable: another? the op thing? i dont think im about enough tbh |
| 14:05.23 | petemc | liable: thanks tho :) |
| 14:05.35 | liable | ok :) |
| 14:05.50 | abrotman | !seen peterS |
| 14:05.51 | dpkg | peters <~peterS~@adsl-67-66-107-52.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 6d 10h 55m 53s ago, saying: 'UnKnowN_: to what purpose? what do you want to find out?'. |
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| 14:07.16 | einstein1g | i've problems with my notebook and the lastest debian kernels |
| 14:07.26 | abrotman | like what? |
| 14:07.28 | einstein1g | EEPROM MAC address is invalid |
| 14:07.45 | einstein1g | and the nic (3c566b) doesn't work anymore |
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| 14:08.12 | einstein1g | any ideas? |
| 14:08.17 | liable | use one that works then? |
| 14:08.28 | einstein1g | 2.6.5 is the last working kernel |
| 14:08.32 | einstein1g | 2.6.8 freezes |
| 14:08.43 | KomiaPoika | that's smart |
| 14:08.44 | einstein1g | >2.6.11 no working network |
| 14:08.49 | KomiaPoika | release a kernel that freezes |
| 14:08.50 | liable | 2.6.5? |
| 14:08.52 | bar` | how do i kill x? |
| 14:09.01 | einstein1g | strg+alt+backspace |
| 14:09.01 | bar` | i chose a theme that freezes it |
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| 14:09.11 | bar` | strg? |
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| 14:09.17 | liable | bar`: /etc/init.d/?dn stop |
| 14:09.27 | liable | ?dm |
| 14:09.28 | einstein1g | liable: yes with 2.6.5 my nic works, but this kernel is far too old :( |
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| 14:09.37 | KomiaPoika | too old for what |
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| 14:09.42 | bip | no working network in latest kernel so maybe using adifferent kene |
| 14:09.43 | KomiaPoika | if it works it aint too old |
| 14:09.43 | bar` | how do i go to console from a frozen X? |
| 14:09.47 | liable | einstein1g: where you get 2.6.5 from? |
| 14:09.49 | einstein1g | no acpi, no freq-scaling |
| 14:09.49 | abrotman | KomiaPoika: security issues |
| 14:09.52 | bar` | rephrased :) |
| 14:10.02 | bip | using a different kernel is what i need right ? |
| 14:10.07 | liable | bar`: ctrl+alt+F1 |
| 14:10.09 | KomiaPoika | aren't there fixes |
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| 14:10.14 | bar` | nope |
| 14:10.16 | bar` | doesnt seem to work |
| 14:10.32 | bip | i tried a sid vmware install but could get network to work |
| 14:10.54 | takatumi | bar`: ssh? |
| 14:10.54 | liable | bar`: ctrl alt backspace |
| 14:10.57 | einstein1g | liable: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.5.tar.bz2 ;) |
| 14:11.03 | bip | maybe using exper24 might be a workaround |
| 14:11.05 | bar` | nothing :( |
| 14:11.11 | liable | einstein1g: you running woody? |
| 14:11.18 | einstein1g | liable: no sid |
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| 14:11.36 | liable | einstein1g: you used to run woody? |
| 14:11.37 | einstein1g | how could i activate a device directly? |
| 14:11.40 | vivek- | is there any other way to get from avseq1.dat ---> *.mpg ?i tried mencoder it doesn't handle *.dat ---> *.mpg |
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| 14:11.55 | debuser | hello all, i have a question about debian installer, i want to install debian from the net through debian netinstaller and i have DSL but i use a modem speedtouch 330 is it possible to make this with the modem and if is possible what i need to do to configure modem to working |
| 14:11.56 | bar` | is there any other way other than rebooting? |
| 14:12.17 | liable | bar`: if you cant get a term, no. |
| 14:12.21 | einstein1g | liable: nope, why should i? |
| 14:12.27 | bar` | :| |
| 14:12.33 | bar` | rebooting. |
| 14:12.44 | bar` | okay |
| 14:12.47 | bip | well i do have a knoppix install with 2.6.11 and it s networked right now |
| 14:13.13 | liable | einstein1g: just wondering how you ended up with 2.6.5 :) |
| 14:13.30 | bar` | new problem: i chose a theme for fluxbox that freezes up, how do i change that theme beore starting x? (editing it in console) |
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| 14:14.01 | einstein1g | liable: i've kept the sources ;) |
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| 14:14.19 | einstein1g | liable: how could i activate a specific pci device without any driver? |
| 14:14.46 | liable | einstein1g: I dont understand. |
| 14:14.48 | einstein1g | eg. by his pci id? like 0000:00:03:0 |
| 14:14.53 | KomiaPoika | bar`: vi .fluxboxrc |
| 14:15.02 | KomiaPoika | from your ~ |
| 14:15.04 | asg | bar`: edit ~/.fluxbox/init |
| 14:15.27 | KomiaPoika | session.styleFile is in .fluxboxrc |
| 14:15.28 | asg | liable: and peterS |
| 14:15.29 | einstein1g | liable: imho the problem with the driver is, that it tries reading the eeprom to early, the device is imho in sleep state |
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| 14:15.46 | asg | KomiaPoika: it's in init here |
| 14:15.50 | KomiaPoika | it's in both |
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| 14:15.52 | KomiaPoika | wtf |
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| 14:16.16 | asg | KomiaPoika: one of the other exists for backward compatibility. |
| 14:16.42 | asg | s/of/or/ |
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| 14:16.55 | KomiaPoika | i got that |
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| 14:17.23 | DaDave | hi all |
| 14:18.00 | DaDave | which of the 12 cd images for sarge do i need for a simple server installation w/o X11? |
| 14:18.09 | asg | DaDave: the first or a netinstall iso |
| 14:18.23 | DaDave | only the 1st cd is enough? |
| 14:18.33 | asg | DaDave: yes, it even includes X |
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| 14:18.42 | DaDave | asg: cool. thakns |
| 14:18.54 | bar` | GOD DAMN IT |
| 14:19.05 | drac | DaDave: Sarge is 14 CDs. |
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| 14:19.20 | bar` | fluxbox sucks |
| 14:19.21 | DaDave | drac: oh realy. hmm. wow. that's much. |
| 14:19.29 | Eclipser | !start a wm war |
| 14:19.29 | dpkg | wmaker makes me vomit! |
| 14:19.36 | liable | !comfort bar` |
| 14:19.37 | dpkg | There, there, bar`. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 14:19.48 | bar` | thanks |
| 14:19.55 | bar` | okay |
| 14:20.13 | Eclipser | bar`, don't whine, I have to run w98se here... |
| 14:20.14 | bar` | what others desktops are on the debian tree? |
| 14:20.21 | Eclipser | xfce4 |
| 14:20.24 | ke6isf | Shit, now there's two of me. I'm beside myself in waking up. |
| 14:20.27 | Eclipser | my favourite :) |
| 14:20.32 | KomiaPoika | i heard xfce4 is elite |
| 14:20.33 | asg | bar`: fvwm, ion3, openbox, ... |
| 14:20.33 | ke6isf | bar`: gnome, KDE, blackbox... |
| 14:20.37 | einstein1g | how could i enable/activate a pci device by his pci id? |
| 14:20.46 | bar` | other than the *box :) |
| 14:20.46 | liable | what is l33t? |
| 14:20.51 | bar` | ill try fvwm! |
| 14:20.56 | ke6isf | !l33t |
| 14:20.56 | dpkg | hmm... l33t is emmett, or core, or jeramy. Ben Herrenschmidt, or lordknow1 or Nero. Pi, or a categorization reserved for lame script kiddies, or apt, or definitely another way to say luser |
| 14:21.01 | liable | leet is whatever you like! |
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| 14:21.09 | wannabe | heh dpkg is hilarious |
| 14:21.30 | debuser | hello all |
| 14:21.31 | liable | !laugh |
| 14:21.37 | KomiaPoika | !l33t |
| 14:21.37 | dpkg | i guess l33t is emmett, or core, or jeramy. Ben Herrenschmidt, or lordknow1 or Nero. Pi, or a categorization reserved for lame script kiddies, or apt, or definitely another way to say luser, or the most elite of them all |
| 14:21.44 | bar` | say mate, how did you say i kill x? |
| 14:21.52 | DaDave | hmm. ubunto is based on debian, right? so it seems to me that ubunto is much much slower on my system than debian. is that a known behaviour of ubunto or does it just feel slower? |
| 14:21.56 | asg | bar`: ctrl+alt+bksp |
| 14:21.56 | tohoq | Any idea why there are no seeders for the testing .iso image torrent? |
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| 14:22.03 | liable | bar`: can you get a terminal? |
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| 14:22.05 | concept10 | here it comes |
| 14:22.07 | bar` | yes |
| 14:22.08 | bar` | thru terminal |
| 14:22.09 | bar` | :) |
| 14:22.12 | asg | DaDave: it feels slower because it runs Gnome. |
| 14:22.18 | debuser | i want to install debian from the net with netinstaller and i have DSL and using ausb modem speedtouch 330 is it possible to make this with the modem and if is possible what i need to do to configure modem to working |
| 14:22.46 | ke6isf | debuser: dude, punctuation is your friend. =O.o= |
| 14:23.01 | concept10 | debuser, no success with DHCP? |
| 14:23.03 | liable | bar`: /etc/init.d/?dm stop ? being x,g,k,w,p whatever.. |
| 14:23.03 | streuner | debuser: read ig |
| 14:23.19 | bar` | isnt it xdm? |
| 14:23.29 | DaDave | asg: hmm. but i switched to xfce and it was still very slow compared to a debian install. what did i wrong? |
| 14:23.31 | liable | bar`: you tell me.. |
| 14:23.32 | streuner | debuser: /j #speedtouch too, i think you need a seperat driver to get i-net working... |
| 14:23.32 | asg | bar`: or gdm, kdm, wdm ... |
| 14:23.33 | shingouz | debuser: the usb adsl can be a pain in the ass, if possible get something that uses ehternet |
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| 14:23.38 | ke6isf | bar`: if that's what's there. |
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| 14:23.45 | bar` | ill check |
| 14:23.45 | bar` | :) |
| 14:23.46 | asg | DaDave: I don't know, I've never run Ubuntu. |
| 14:23.56 | concept10 | DaDave, if it is slower, just go back to debian |
| 14:24.03 | euphor][a | hello. i get this error message running aptitude update: 'You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing files |
| 14:24.04 | asg | DaDave: see what processes are running, kill ones that you don't need. |
| 14:24.07 | euphor][a | You may want to update the package lists to correct these missing files |
| 14:24.08 | tohoq | I can't download the testing .iso image via bittorrent, can someone help? |
| 14:24.11 | liable | ke6isf: no punctuation is better than the enter key :) |
| 14:24.12 | euphor][a | oops |
| 14:24.22 | ke6isf | liable: Not by much. |
| 14:24.31 | shingouz | euphor][a: then update the lists |
| 14:24.36 | ke6isf | euphor][a: Do 'apt-get update'. |
| 14:24.38 | euphor][a | shingouz, how? |
| 14:24.42 | euphor][a | oh ok |
| 14:24.46 | streuner | tohoq: we hardly have any influence of torrents behavior |
| 14:24.49 | euphor][a | it just means upate packages |
| 14:25.02 | streuner | tohoq: just get d-i |
| 14:25.07 | streuner | !d-i tohoq |
| 14:25.08 | dpkg | tohoq, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 14:25.09 | shingouz | euphor][a: no, it means it updates the lists of the packages |
| 14:25.30 | ke6isf | euphor][a: You should do this periodically anyway, with increasing frequency depending on your version of Deb. |
| 14:25.31 | streuner | tohoq: and download everything else from the net (mirrors) |
| 14:25.34 | euphor][a | shingouz, right, apt-get update will update package lists, aptitude update not the same then? |
| 14:25.34 | liable | euphor][a: just do it! |
| 14:25.39 | bar` | nope |
| 14:25.41 | bar` | x doesnt seem to die |
| 14:25.45 | euphor][a | liable, (tm) |
| 14:25.45 | liable | euphor][a: yes |
| 14:25.53 | shingouz | euphor][a: i am not sure, i do not use aptitude |
| 14:25.56 | bar` | 'xdm stop' says extra arguments on command line |
| 14:25.59 | euphor][a | shingouz, oki |
| 14:26.01 | liable | euphor][a: aptitude update is the same.. |
| 14:26.20 | Radiance | any one using Sane for his hp scanner in sarge ? and if so, does it work just fine ? |
| 14:26.22 | liable | bar`: did you include the rest? |
| 14:26.31 | euphor][a | liable, aptitude gave me that message though, how come i can't just run aptitude and need to do apt-get update too? |
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| 14:26.42 | bar` | hmm.. i dunno i did 'apt-get install fluxbox x-window server' |
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| 14:26.46 | liable | euphor][a: just do it again, it will fix it. |
| 14:26.46 | bar` | that's all i know |
| 14:26.53 | bar` | in /etc/init.d there's only xdm |
| 14:26.59 | euphor][a | liable, oh ok |
| 14:26.59 | bar` | no other ?dm |
| 14:27.24 | streuner | tohoq: what's the URL (torrent)? |
| 14:27.37 | tohoq | streuner: Wait a sec |
| 14:27.53 | bar` | how do i change init 5 to init 3? (no x on boot up)_ |
| 14:28.04 | tohoq | streuner: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/torrents/i386/debian-testing-i386-binary-1.iso.torrent |
| 14:28.10 | streuner | bar`: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 14:28.14 | liable | bar`: killall -9 xdm |
| 14:28.19 | ke6isf | bar`: What are you running that requires init 5 or 3? |
| 14:28.27 | ke6isf | bar`: Rephrase, which version of Deb? |
| 14:28.31 | ke6isf | s/Deb/Debian |
| 14:28.38 | ke6isf | gah, need more caffeine |
| 14:28.38 | bar` | 3.1, i just don't want to start x on boot up |
| 14:28.39 | bar` | :) |
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| 14:28.48 | ke6isf | bar`: You should be on rl 2. |
| 14:28.55 | liable | start or stop? |
| 14:28.57 | streuner | debian uses by default runlevel 2, if you using something else you don't run debian. |
| 14:28.59 | asg | bar`: Debian only uses runlevel 2 (3-5 are reserved for the administrator's use.) |
| 14:29.18 | asg | bar`: /msg dpkg nodm (to prevent *dm on startup) |
| 14:29.34 | streuner | asg: sounds like my echo.. ;-) |
| 14:29.44 | asg | streuner: birds of a feather ... |
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| 14:29.53 | streuner | asg: Do you have me on your ignore-list? ;-) |
| 14:30.01 | asg | streuner: heh |
| 14:31.07 | euphor][a | i get this running make menuconfig 'scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration', i've installed kernel-sources and libncurses5-dev -- need anything else? |
| 14:31.08 | liable | bar`: what are you actually trying to do? |
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| 14:31.26 | drac | !b-e euphor][a |
| 14:31.27 | dpkg | euphor][a: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 14:31.56 | euphor][a | drac, ta |
| 14:32.06 | jshriver | Greetings :) Anyone here use the Hauppage WinTV-Go card? I just bought one and love it, but had a couple questions |
| 14:32.33 | xophEr | I have no sound when playing movies, any kind. What do I need? |
| 14:32.45 | euphor][a | speakers |
| 14:32.46 | jshriver | How do you get the remote control to work? I see in the code there is a IR driver ir-kbd-gpio.c |
| 14:32.56 | liable | xophEr: did you tell the plyer to use alsa? |
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| 14:33.14 | jshriver | audio driver and alsa compiled |
| 14:33.17 | bar` | okay, i killed xdm i think |
| 14:33.24 | bar` | i'm console |
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| 14:33.34 | bar` | i'm on console, i want to install another desktop |
| 14:33.42 | bar` | xfce sounds lovely |
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| 14:33.48 | bar` | apt-get install xfce ? |
| 14:33.55 | euphor][a | drac, same error, just do 'apt-get install duid-essentials' ? |
| 14:34.02 | liable | something like that. |
| 14:34.02 | euphor][a | *build |
| 14:34.02 | ke6isf | bar`: Give it a shot, and see what it does. |
| 14:34.09 | bar` | nope, doesnt work |
| 14:34.10 | bar` | :) |
| 14:34.21 | bar` | didnt find xfce |
| 14:34.21 | ke6isf | bar`: Then 'apt-cache search xfce' might give you some information. |
| 14:34.39 | liable | bar`: heard of apt-cache serach? its a really nifty little command :) |
| 14:34.46 | drac | euphor][a: kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev is all I ever needed. :/ |
| 14:35.05 | liable | meh, why do I always type serach... |
| 14:35.07 | wannabe | ke5isf, liable: nice echo ;) |
| 14:35.29 | drac | ..cho ho o |
| 14:35.32 | ke6isf | !beer liable |
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| 14:35.37 | ke6isf | !beer wannabe |
| 14:35.42 | ke6isf | !coffee ke6isf |
| 14:35.44 | bar` | okay, gettin' xfce |
| 14:35.47 | wannabe | whee I love guinness |
| 14:35.51 | xophEr | liable, how can I tell totem to use alsa? |
| 14:35.58 | ke6isf | damn, no coffee. Ah well, I gotta to to work and make more. |
| 14:36.00 | asg | euphor][a: is this on sid? |
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| 14:36.13 | euphor][a | drac, okay |
| 14:36.17 | euphor][a | asg, no sarge |
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| 14:36.22 | liable | xophEr: I dunno, does it have a preferences menu? |
| 14:36.34 | Althaser | asg i did what dpkg tell me and it keep logging :( |
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| 14:36.48 | asg | Althaser: did you restart klogd afterwards? |
| 14:36.54 | Althaser | yep |
| 14:37.01 | Althaser | force-reload |
| 14:37.13 | jeffopi | Hi. I have KDE installed and like it but I would like to try Gnome. Unfortunately, I only have about 300 MB of disk space left, and apt-get install gnome takes about 460. Is there a smaller package I can download? |
| 14:37.18 | liable | !console dropped packets |
| 14:37.18 | dpkg | it has been said that console dropped packets is to stop iptables/your firewall logging dropped packets to console, edit /etc/init.d/klogd and add -c 2 to the end of the start line of the script. Restart klogd. |
| 14:37.22 | asg | Althaser: well, try dmesg -n 1 |
| 14:37.25 | liable | Althaser: ^^ |
| 14:37.29 | asg | liable: he tried that |
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| 14:37.44 | liable | gah.. |
| 14:38.00 | xophEr | liable, yes, but nothing there says alsa :) the only thing under the 'audio'-tab is the output method; stereo, 2.1, 5.1 etc.. |
| 14:38.42 | Althaser | asg it stopped :D |
| 14:38.45 | asg | euphor][a: try doing a 'make clean' (there might be some cached info there.) Otherwise, I don't know. |
| 14:38.46 | Althaser | asg thanks a lot |
| 14:38.51 | asg | Althaser: you're welcome |
| 14:39.04 | liable | xophEr: bugger! I dont have it, so sorry. :( |
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| 14:39.18 | liable | man that dudes quit messages annoy me! |
| 14:39.22 | cahoot | xophEr: got a .gnome2/totem_config file? |
| 14:39.32 | asg | liable: bash.org troll |
| 14:39.33 | xophEr | cahoot, checking.. |
| 14:39.55 | euphor][a | asg, have done, didn't fix it.. hrm, what to do :/ i don't know what packages i need on debian, assume it should justw ork by now (have all required packages?) |
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| 14:39.59 | Althaser | liable ^^ |
| 14:40.19 | liable | Althaser: ?? |
| 14:40.22 | xophEr | cahoot, yes.. I should change the audio_driver section right? from auto -> alsa? |
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| 14:40.28 | asg | euphor][a: well, build-essential and libncurses5-dev are all I've ever needed. You might check which version of gcc you are using. |
| 14:40.58 | Althaser | liable -:) |
| 14:41.00 | euphor][a | asg, deb command to do this? |
| 14:41.06 | asg | euphor][a: gcc -v |
| 14:41.27 | euphor][a | asg, seems i am using 4.0.1 :? probably why |
| 14:41.29 | bip | well i figure a workarouund to install current sid into my vmware box |
| 14:41.34 | asg | euphor][a: that isn't in sarge |
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| 14:41.43 | liable | Althaser: oh! you fixed it! :) |
| 14:41.43 | bip | expert24 semms to work fine |
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| 14:41.56 | bip | i just wanted to let you know ... |
| 14:42.05 | euphor][a | asg, must be, it installed using testing for some reason, i just went through expert26 mode -- didn't opt for unstale branch |
| 14:42.13 | bip | just in case somebody else asks the same question |
| 14:42.24 | asg | euphor][a: and that's probably the issue you are having. gcc4 is still in transition. Try setting the symlink in /usr/bin to a 3.3 gcc. |
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| 14:42.32 | Althaser | liable Yeah. long time I wish that fixed :D was today eheh |
| 14:42.38 | drac | euphor][a: MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.3" make clean/menuconfig/whatever.. or get later kernel that actually "compiles" with gcc-4 |
| 14:42.41 | dvs | liable: You still here? Did you pull an all nighter? |
| 14:43.07 | liable | dvs: its only 12:42 am atm :) |
| 14:43.17 | euphor][a | drac, i just got 2.6 sources, it decided the version, how can i opt what specific version to install? |
| 14:43.27 | liable | dvs: bed soon :) |
| 14:43.33 | euphor][a | asg, possible to switch to stable branch easily enough? |
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| 14:43.43 | asg | euphor][a: not without a reinstall |
| 14:43.47 | drac | euphor][a: Latest 2.6.12* or 2.6.13-rc* from kernel.org, or linux-sources-2.6.12 from Debian. |
| 14:43.48 | dvs | liable: Oh! West Pacific I see. It's 10:43am here |
| 14:43.59 | euphor][a | asg, hrm, oh well. |
| 14:44.00 | liable | dvs: yeah .au |
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| 14:44.39 | asg | euphor][a: you could compile it in a sarge chroot |
| 14:44.59 | euphor][a | drac, how can i install 2.6.12 using apt-get? |
| 14:45.10 | drac | euphor][a: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.12 |
| 14:45.31 | liable | dvs: you just wake up? |
| 14:45.46 | dvs | liable: Pretty much. I've been awake for 1.5 hours |
| 14:45.50 | euphor][a | drac, returns nothing |
| 14:46.21 | drac | euphor][a: it's in unstable, and I was sure you we're using it.. gcc-4.0 is unstable as far as I know. |
| 14:46.41 | liable | dvs: bastard, your making me think of breakfast already! :P |
| 14:47.03 | euphor][a | drac, how could i tell? |
| 14:47.18 | asg | euphor][a: look at /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:47.26 | euphor][a | asg, ty |
| 14:47.41 | liable | ImEatingPringles: how many can you fit in your mouth and eat in one go? I think 20 is my record... |
| 14:47.48 | ImEatingPringles | hahaha |
| 14:47.58 | euphor][a | asg, think i am using testing |
| 14:47.58 | ImEatingPringles | depends what sort |
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| 14:48.12 | shingouz | ImEatingPringles: you planning on making a cantenna? |
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| 14:48.25 | asg | !info gcc-4.0 etch |
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| 14:48.38 | dpkg | gcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4.0.1-2 (etch), Packaged size: 483 kB, Installed size: 1172 kB |
| 14:48.41 | euphor][a | gcc-4.0 is part of etch? |
| 14:48.41 | TK-1 | how hard is it gonna be to install a gui from ssh? |
| 14:48.43 | ImEatingPringles | ???? my vocabulary doesn't have words with more than 4 letters :) |
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| 14:48.46 | ImEatingPringles | whats a cantenna? |
| 14:48.48 | asg | euphor][a: apparently |
| 14:48.52 | drac | !info gcc etch |
| 14:48.54 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:4.0.1-3 (etch), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 14:48.58 | liable | ImEatingPringles: my friends dad used to import them, we used to get them for free, so we'd get stoned and, well, the rest is history :) |
| 14:49.01 | drac | uhh, it's default also. |
| 14:49.09 | euphor][a | asg, aah okay |
| 14:49.10 | asg | drac: joy |
| 14:49.14 | wannabe | Pringles are evil |
| 14:49.24 | wannabe | distrinuted by Proctor & Gamble |
| 14:49.25 | drac | asg: haha, hooray.. |
| 14:49.26 | shingouz | ImEatingPringles: ok, so you just eat them for the taste, not to haxx0r someones wlan ;) |
| 14:49.31 | wannabe | *distributed |
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| 14:49.38 | euphor][a | asg, i installed using linux format dvd: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r0 _Sarge_ - i386 Binary - Linux Format DVD 70]/ unstable contrib main |
| 14:49.42 | dvs | wannabe: Why? They test them on animals? |
| 14:49.45 | ImEatingPringles | shingouz: what's a cantenna? |
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| 14:49.54 | ImEatingPringles | what ever it is, i want one |
| 14:50.03 | asg | ImEatingPringles: wireless antenna extension built using a Pringles Can |
| 14:50.08 | shingouz | ImEatingPringles: homemade wlan antenna made out of a pringles can |
| 14:50.10 | liable | a wireless antenna |
| 14:50.15 | wannabe | yes, they make the animals... EAT THEM! the horror! |
| 14:50.24 | ImEatingPringles | lol oh ok, can the pringles stay inside? |
| 14:50.40 | asg | euphor][a: well, sarge is stable, not unstable. That CD looks odd. |
| 14:50.44 | shingouz | euphor][a: they have it set up on unstable? lemme check the cd |
| 14:50.54 | liable | no!, they interfere with the signal, they must be eaten first :P |
| 14:50.58 | asg | euphor][a: oh, that's right, they screwed that version up |
| 14:51.06 | asg | euphor][a: you need the 3.1_r0a version |
| 14:51.14 | euphor][a | asg, they did? |
| 14:51.29 | ImEatingPringles | damn non-conductive pringles. *Crunch* |
| 14:51.32 | asg | euphor][a: yes, they quickly released the r0a version afterwards. |
| 14:51.39 | TK-1 | guess its gonna be hard then to install a gui from ssh |
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| 14:51.52 | liable | TK-1: no, its easy. |
| 14:51.54 | euphor][a | asg, bah, so i'll need to d/l that i guess |
| 14:52.08 | andrei_ | Hi, I have a mysql server under debian, how can I get utf8 character support? |
| 14:52.11 | asg | euphor][a: or just use a net install and install the rest via the net. |
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| 14:52.23 | euphor][a | asg, sounds better option |
| 14:52.32 | euphor][a | asg, is there a net install guide? |
| 14:52.34 | ImEatingPringles | ok: back to the question i was gonna ask... Is there a command line equivalent for clicking on a xterm window in a GUI (ie is there a command to select an existing xterm window?) |
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| 14:52.48 | shingouz | euphor][a: looks like all the versions point to sarge on the cd |
| 14:52.50 | euphor][a | !info net install |
| 14:52.51 | asg | euphor][a: it universally is unless you have a) no net supported by the installer or b) dialup and impatience. |
| 14:52.59 | asg | euphor][a: /msg dpkg netinst |
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| 14:53.20 | euphor][a | shingouz, ? |
| 14:53.36 | euphor][a | asg, ty |
| 14:53.39 | liable | ImEatingPringles: you mean in console? change consoles? |
| 14:53.51 | ImEatingPringles | liable: yes |
| 14:53.52 | shingouz | euphor][a: of course once you connect it to the internet and start using apt-get to install stuff from the repositories you will get screwed unless you told the installer to use the stable branch |
| 14:54.00 | abrotman | ImEatingPringles: what flavor? |
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| 14:54.11 | euphor][a | shingouz, no, i think it's using testing |
| 14:54.15 | liable | ImEatingPringles: alt F1, 2, 3. 4 |
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| 14:54.20 | euphor][a | so is it worth going sarge or etch? |
| 14:54.30 | dvs | euphor][a: Sarge. |
| 14:54.34 | euphor][a | ok |
| 14:54.37 | ImEatingPringles | LOL EVERYONE STOP TALKING ABOUT PRINGLES |
| 14:54.37 | ImEatingPringles | how do I change my name ffs |
| 14:54.42 | shingouz | euphor][a: looks that way. have you installed anything off the internet onto that system yet? |
| 14:54.45 | dvs | ImEatingPringles: /nick |
| 14:54.49 | ImEatingPringles | cool thanks |
| 14:54.52 | megatronx | i'm hungry |
| 14:54.53 | ImEatingPringles | dvs: thanks |
| 14:54.55 | liable | ImEatingPringles: haha, you asked for it! :) |
| 14:54.58 | dvs | ImEatingPringles: dont spill crumbs |
| 14:54.59 | gniretar | lol |
| 14:55.01 | orkid | good morning. I am trying to figure out why exim will not receive smtp messages. I cannot telnet into the server at port 25, but netstat -l clearly states:cp 0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN Any ideas? |
| 14:55.09 | gniretar | i hate pizza pringles |
| 14:55.11 | shingouz | ImEatingPringles: /nick ImNotEatingPringlesNow |
| 14:55.12 | euphor][a | shingouz, yes, gentoo |
| 14:55.17 | gniretar | ranch > * tho |
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| 14:55.30 | petemc | orkid: your isp perhaps blocks port 25 |
| 14:55.36 | liable | oh jesus |
| 14:55.40 | wannabe | too much sodium in your diet... |
| 14:55.44 | TK-1 | how can u install xfree86 on a box if it dont have a mouse attached also it wont go into the gui will it |
| 14:55.44 | ImEatingPretzels | lol |
| 14:55.45 | shingouz | ImEatingPretzels: and now it went all pretzel-shaped :p |
| 14:56.05 | dvs | ImEatingPretzels: your font looks all twisted now |
| 14:56.07 | gniretar | orkid: Your ISP prolly blocks all outgoing port 25 traffic except traffic which is destin for the ISP's mail server. |
| 14:56.10 | shingouz | euphor][a: have you installed anything on the debian off the internet already? |
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| 14:56.35 | gniretar | how did we start talking about pringles? |
| 14:56.37 | euphor][a | shingouz, yes |
| 14:56.44 | ImEatingPretzels | hey shingouz, about that cantennae thing, are the pringle cans where you come from metal?? coz the one i'm holding is just shiny cardboard with a metal base |
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| 14:56.59 | gniretar | ah |
| 14:57.02 | gniretar | the cantenna |
| 14:57.10 | gniretar | those are so much fun |
| 14:57.15 | ImEatingPretzels | damn lousy make-in-china pringles |
| 14:57.22 | shingouz | ImEatingPretzels: cardboard here too but they have this metallic coating inside and that is enough for the 2.4GHz |
| 14:57.27 | orkid | gniretar: thanks, this is true (changing the smtp port in /etc/services allows me to log in) |
| 14:57.31 | euphor][a | ImEatingPretzels, they act as directional antenna, the cardboard funnels the signal |
| 14:57.31 | ImEatingPretzels | oh ok |
| 14:57.40 | ImEatingPretzels | what do the pringles do? |
| 14:57.42 | ImEatingPretzels | :) |
| 14:57.42 | shingouz | euphor][a: check what your /etc/apt/sources.list points to |
| 14:57.49 | gniretar | they make you fat |
| 14:57.59 | shingouz | ImEatingPretzels: nothing, you just eat them |
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| 14:58.19 | wannabe | "Someone h4xx0r3d my pringles network!!!" |
| 14:58.33 | NoRC | where is a good bluetooth chatroom? |
| 14:58.35 | knioy | their not even a true chip. Real chips should be made from sliced potato, not a potato/grain mash. |
| 14:58.49 | ImEatingPretzels | lol |
| 14:59.07 | euphor][a | shingouz, http://pastebin.com/335979 |
| 14:59.08 | asg | shingouz: I know someone who used a circular wire french fry skimmer. |
| 14:59.30 | shingouz | asg: with a usb-wlan thingie? i've seen them |
| 14:59.38 | ImEatingPretzels | he must have been really bored |
| 14:59.58 | ImEatingPretzels | slow day at mcdonalds i guess |
| 15:00.15 | shingouz | ImEatingPretzels: actually such a setup is susprisingly good |
| 15:01.04 | ImEatingPretzels | is there a shortcut to type the name of the person you are talking to, or are you all just manually typing it? |
| 15:01.15 | euphor][a | tab |
| 15:01.20 | asg | ImEatingPretzels: type a bit of the name and hit TAB |
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| 15:01.31 | shingouz | euphor][a: they have the sources.list completely fucked. there is no security updates on testing and i have no idea what the unstable does there in the first place |
| 15:01.31 | ImEatingPretzels | ImEatingPretzels, oic |
| 15:01.35 | dvs | Drink a TAB |
| 15:01.44 | asg | dvs: that stuff is nasty |
| 15:02.19 | shingouz | hehe |
| 15:02.29 | asg | shingouz: he's using the first release dvd (the one that had the broken sources) |
| 15:02.48 | euphor][a | shingouz, i chose some of the mirrors, but the first line is the dvd on the mag.. i'm downloading net install -- i'll reinstall afresh in a sec using stable :) |
| 15:03.14 | JohnnyST | Where is the configuration for wireless pci cards? |
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| 15:03.32 | asg | JohnnyST: apt-get install wireless-tools ; man 7 wireless, man 8 iwconfig |
| 15:03.32 | liable | JohnnyST: /etc/netwok/interfaces |
| 15:03.34 | shingouz | euphor][a: yea, i have the install cd from the magazine here and i am planning on chewing them out as soon as i have had some food installed (or i am too nasty) |
| 15:03.42 | JohnnyST | ok |
| 15:03.50 | shingouz | asg: that is the linux format cover cd/dvd |
| 15:04.28 | asg | shingouz: remember, they release a 3.1_r0a the day after to fix the busted sources. |
| 15:04.33 | shingouz | asg: and it only just came out with a flying pig on its cover, main feature is debian.. they screwed up the cover cd's |
| 15:04.37 | euphor][a | asg, who made the mistake? deb or lf? |
| 15:04.53 | asg | euphor][a: deb made a mistake but I'm not aware of the lf version so I can't say. |
| 15:04.56 | asg | shingouz: ah, okay. |
| 15:04.57 | shingouz | asg: i know. the problem is that the magazine got out only a few days ago |
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| 15:05.09 | shingouz | asg: time for a blazing email :p |
| 15:05.13 | euphor][a | shingouz, just write them, sure they would send a proper dvd :) |
| 15:05.20 | asg | shingouz: oh, interesting. So they used the old 3.1_r0 release. |
| 15:05.31 | euphor][a | asg, oki :) |
| 15:05.49 | shingouz | euphor][a: probably not, the cd works, you just have to edit the sources before you install anything off the net |
| 15:05.56 | shingouz | asg: looks like it |
| 15:05.56 | liable | does that include iso1? I was helping someone today and 2.6 seemed to fuck password shit.. |
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| 15:06.17 | euphor][a | shingouz, sure beats downloading 14 cds |
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| 15:06.37 | JohnnyST | liable: Do you know of some gui program to configure the wlan settings in /etc/netwok/interfaces? |
| 15:07.06 | shingouz | euphor][a: you do not need more than two floppies to install the full debian if you have a fast connection. of course one cd works too |
| 15:07.09 | asg | or custom live installer cds with the bootcd package |
| 15:07.10 | liable | JohnnyST: um, kde or gnome may have a gui for it.. |
| 15:07.16 | JohnnyST | ok |
| 15:07.31 | DaDave | if something is under GPL does that mean it is allowed to use it for commercial purposes for free? |
| 15:07.35 | euphor][a | shingouz, well, two floppies and a net connection ;) |
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| 15:07.38 | liable | JohnnyST: but really, its quite simple to set up.. :) |
| 15:07.39 | bar` | how do i find out how much space do i have left on? |
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| 15:07.43 | bar` | du -sh ? |
| 15:07.45 | zap | hi. after `hdparm -W0 /dev/hda`, the write cache is still active according to `hdparm -i /dev/hda`. note that /dev/hda is not mounted. do i have to refresh anything? |
| 15:07.54 | asg | bar`: df |
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| 15:07.57 | dvs | DaDave: No. Not free as in beer. |
| 15:07.58 | GregM | df |
| 15:08.05 | cahoot | bar`: if all partitons are mounted |
| 15:08.12 | shingouz | euphor][a: you only have one dvd there, right? and the dvd has some other stuff on it too? |
| 15:08.26 | liable | JohnnyST: man interfaces, /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples.. |
| 15:08.30 | euphor][a | shingouz, yes, it's double-sided, the other side has mandriva |
| 15:08.40 | euphor][a | shin, i haven't looked what else is on it |
| 15:08.54 | shingouz | euphor][a: you have only about half of sarge then... /msg dpkg nicktab |
| 15:09.07 | bar` | okay |
| 15:09.11 | bar` | i wanna set up an ftp |
| 15:09.16 | bar` | apt-get install ftpd ? |
| 15:09.27 | abrotman | bar`: apt-get install proftpd .. but ftp is insecure by nature |
| 15:09.27 | DaDave | dvs: what do you mean with "not free as in beer"? |
| 15:09.28 | liable | yuck |
| 15:09.39 | asg | bar`: vsftpd is a good choice if you have to use ftp |
| 15:09.40 | liable | there isnt free beer! |
| 15:09.43 | euphor][a | shingouz, that's cool, i prefer net installs, just d/l what i need |
| 15:09.45 | dvs | DaDave: Not free as in "don't have to pay for it" |
| 15:09.54 | dvs | liable: No such thing. |
| 15:09.56 | bar` | free as in free of speech |
| 15:10.00 | dvs | liable: Just like lunch |
| 15:10.05 | asg | dvs: there is if you know the bartender |
| 15:10.08 | liable | I wish people would stop saying that.. |
| 15:10.11 | shingouz | euphor][a: just get the netinstall cd and run with that then :) |
| 15:10.22 | euphor][a | shuning, it's on the way ;) |
| 15:10.24 | bar` | what's the diffrenece between ftpd and proftp? |
| 15:10.29 | bar` | and vsftp? |
| 15:10.31 | shuning | ? |
| 15:10.37 | asg | bar`: different implementations, different features. |
| 15:10.37 | shingouz | !tell euphor][a about nicktab |
| 15:10.45 | bar` | ok |
| 15:11.01 | bar` | i want the ftp for my own private network, its just that samba is a trouble maker |
| 15:11.09 | bar` | or i just dont have it i installed :) |
| 15:11.15 | euphor][a | shingouz, why the tab notice? |
| 15:11.16 | Vladi | hi, what is a good way to integrate snort into my firewall? i currently am using shorewall? |
| 15:11.19 | JohnnyST | liable: I found it kwifimanger. |
| 15:11.25 | asg | bar`: you could just use scp/sftp (much more secure) |
| 15:11.29 | liable | bar`: work it out, dont use ftp :) |
| 15:11.36 | shingouz | euphor][a: because you seem to have problems with tabcompletion |
| 15:11.44 | bar` | what's scp? |
| 15:11.51 | asg | bar`: secure copy |
| 15:11.55 | liable | copy over ssh |
| 15:12.00 | bar` | oh i see |
| 15:12.03 | shingouz | bar`: man scp |
| 15:12.06 | bar` | thanks |
| 15:12.12 | euphor][a | i just missed hitting tab ;) |
| 15:12.17 | shingouz | :) |
| 15:12.17 | euphor][a | shingouz, ^^ |
| 15:13.04 | shingouz | euphor][a: surprisingly many people do not know about tab, that is why we have the factoid |
| 15:13.11 | liable | haha, and still gets it wrong :P |
| 15:13.12 | KomiaPoika | shuning: what tab?? |
| 15:13.22 | wannabe | doesn't seem to work on gtkbitchx default config |
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| 15:13.30 | euphor][a | shingouz, we are all n00bs once |
| 15:13.30 | nekrataal | hi |
| 15:13.35 | shingouz | KomiaPoika: i can see your problem /msg dpkg nicktab |
| 15:13.38 | KomiaPoika | Shadur: ok. |
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| 15:13.52 | nekrataal | anyone knows how to get the intel fortran 9.0 compiler for linux working under debian sarge? |
| 15:14.03 | shingouz | euphor][a: true... |
| 15:14.04 | Althaser | asg it is still appearing in dmesg :( in console not in text mode but in console yet |
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| 15:14.16 | KomiaPoika | nekrataal: no, but if you hear about it, let me know |
| 15:14.16 | liable | again.. |
| 15:14.32 | asg | Althaser: it will still appear in dmesg since dmesg just prints the kernel ring buffer. |
| 15:14.51 | OverDr1ve | I get this error when trying to mount hdc (my DVD drive): "mount: /dev/hdc is not a valid block device" - Does anyone know what's wrong? |
| 15:15.06 | dvs | OverDr1ve: That's not a partition |
| 15:15.11 | KomiaPoika | is there a disk in the drive OverDr1ve |
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| 15:15.18 | OverDr1ve | KomiaPoika: Yes. |
| 15:15.23 | dvs | OverDr1ve: Oh? Is this a movie DVD? |
| 15:15.31 | KomiaPoika | you dont mount movies |
| 15:15.32 | OverDr1ve | dvs: Data CD. |
| 15:15.41 | phyrster | is there any xml viewer which just show me the contents without all the defining grammars? |
| 15:15.45 | OverDr1ve | KomiaPoika: I know, it's not a DVD. |
| 15:15.48 | KomiaPoika | OverDr1ve do you have a cd entry in fstab |
| 15:15.54 | dvs | OverDr1ve: I guess you don't ahve the udf module loaded |
| 15:16.01 | OverDr1ve | KomiaPoika: Yes, and I've tried with the full command. |
| 15:16.09 | KomiaPoika | such as /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 15:16.24 | KomiaPoika | can you mount another datacd ? |
| 15:16.31 | dvs | OverDr1ve: Change the file system type to "auto" |
| 15:16.36 | phyrster | let me put in this way, how to view a xml file in its user mode, not source code mode? |
| 15:16.42 | OverDr1ve | dvs: Okay, I'll try that. |
| 15:16.45 | KomiaPoika | dvs: mine works with noauto |
| 15:16.48 | abrotman | phyrster: depends on the type of xml file |
| 15:16.53 | asg | phyrster: you need to transform it into something |
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| 15:17.00 | KomiaPoika | phyrster: firefox? |
| 15:17.01 | anarcat | hello |
| 15:17.01 | x-Al1gma | hello anarcat |
| 15:17.09 | OverDr1ve | dvs: Error = mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 15:17.26 | dvs | OverDr1ve: What command are you using? |
| 15:17.29 | rutski89 | I just install xserver-xfree86 and all suggested packages; yet the command "startx" does not exist |
| 15:17.34 | liable | Althaser: still in console it prints? |
| 15:17.35 | anarcat | i'm trying to remember which package to dpkg-reconfigure in able to enable/disable sub-pixel rendering on my laptop |
| 15:17.35 | OverDr1ve | dvs: mount /dev/hdc |
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| 15:17.38 | anarcat | any hints? |
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| 15:17.43 | asg | abrotman: just had an idea, EE could do a reality show called 'Op Skool' |
| 15:17.46 | dvs | OverDr1ve: mount -t auto /dev/hdc |
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| 15:17.55 | asg | !drxx anarcat |
| 15:17.56 | dpkg | anarcat: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 15:18.01 | liable | whats EE anyway? |
| 15:18.02 | orkid | this is odd, I can telnet into my smtp server, but sending email from a service such a g/hot-mail does not complete, does not return an error message, and there isn o sign of it in my smtp server. ? |
| 15:18.03 | anarcat | thanks |
| 15:18.06 | asg | liable: ElectricElf |
| 15:18.06 | dvs | OverDr1ve: Better yet, change your /etc/fstab entry |
| 15:18.07 | phyrster | abrotman: it is actually some config file |
| 15:18.15 | abrotman | asg: and what are the 'events'? |
| 15:18.16 | phyrster | asg: how to transform? |
| 15:18.24 | bar` | the beatles rule |
| 15:18.25 | phyrster | asg: what tool to use? |
| 15:18.26 | abrotman | phyrster: it's a config file? .. why would transform it ? |
| 15:18.27 | asg | phyrster: xslt is a commonly used method |
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| 15:18.36 | OverDr1ve | dvs: typing "mount -t auto /dev/hdc" gives the same output as if I was to type "mount --help" |
| 15:18.44 | abrotman | asg: i thikn he's confusing config xml with data xml ... |
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| 15:18.52 | anarcat | xmd5 isn't around eh? |
| 15:18.53 | abrotman | !punish people that use xml for config files |
| 15:18.53 | asg | abrotman: oh |
| 15:19.07 | dvs | OverDr1ve: Change your /etc/fstab entry |
| 15:19.11 | phyrster | abrotman: then what tool to view the contents and discard all the source code? |
| 15:19.12 | OverDr1ve | dvs: I did. |
| 15:19.14 | anarcat | 'cause i did edit my xfreeconf by hand |
| 15:19.17 | OverDr1ve | dvs: It still doesn't work. |
| 15:19.22 | rutski89 | I just install xserver-xfree86 and all suggested packages; yet the command "startx" does not exist |
| 15:19.37 | rutski89 | **installed; hehe, sorry for asking twice; I won't ask again i guess |
| 15:19.38 | asg | abrotman: dunno, 1) kick the spammer. 2) maintain composure in the face of trollishness. |
| 15:19.40 | abrotman | phyrster: discard source code? .. it's a config file for an ap ? |
| 15:19.44 | dvs | OverDr1ve: Is the iso9660 kernel module loaded? |
| 15:19.50 | OverDr1ve | dvs: No idea. |
| 15:19.56 | Covener | rutski89: xbase-clients |
| 15:20.02 | rutski89 | Covener: great; ty |
| 15:20.03 | wannabe | rutski89: did you check for xbase-clients ? |
| 15:20.06 | dvs | OverDr1ve: /exec -o lsmod | grep iso9660 |
| 15:20.10 | anarcat | asg, can you replace xmd5? :) |
| 15:20.14 | phyrster | abrotman: yes it is config file |
| 15:20.16 | liable | rutski89: did you install x-window-system? |
| 15:20.21 | abrotman | asg: what about 'hunting down kawfee' :) |
| 15:20.25 | asg | anarcat: what's wrong with it? |
| 15:20.30 | abrotman | phyrster: there is no source code then |
| 15:20.34 | asg | abrotman: heh, hunt the kawfee would be fun |
| 15:20.35 | OverDr1ve | dvs: /exec: No such file or directory |
| 15:20.37 | abrotman | phyrster: is it something you can paste somewhere? |
| 15:20.43 | abrotman | asg: like huntthewumpus :) |
| 15:20.46 | dvs | OverDr1ve: Type it right here. |
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| 15:20.53 | OverDr1ve | dvs: Oh... |
| 15:20.56 | phyrster | abrotman: I thought xml has universal grammar/coding, isn't it? |
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| 15:21.00 | anarcat | asg, i'm looking for a way to fool around the sub-pixel rendering, but my xfconf is out of dpkg control now |
| 15:21.05 | anarcat | what's the magic word? |
| 15:21.07 | asg | !xmd5 |
| 15:21.07 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 15:21.10 | asg | anarcat: ^^^ |
| 15:21.13 | anarcat | ooooooh |
| 15:21.16 | liable | kawfee trolled from a .au box the other day.. |
| 15:21.19 | OverDr1ve | dvs: You mean... in my IRC client? |
| 15:21.28 | dvs | OverDr1ve: yes |
| 15:21.32 | Phated | liable: He sure is getting around. |
| 15:21.37 | OverDr1ve | dvs: In that case, it returned no output. |
| 15:21.56 | liable | Phated: yeah, the nasty fucker :) |
| 15:22.01 | dvs | OverDr1ve: It's not loaded then. Do "modprobe iso9660" at a command prompt |
| 15:22.24 | OverDr1ve | dvs: No output from the modprobe command. |
| 15:22.34 | dvs | OverDr1ve: That's good |
| 15:22.36 | Phated | That's a good thing. Try your mount again. |
| 15:22.47 | dvs | OverDr1ve: Not try "lsmod | grep iso9660" |
| 15:22.51 | dvs | Now |
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| 15:23.06 | liable | mount should call it? |
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| 15:23.27 | OverDr1ve | dvs: "lsmod | grep iso9660" returned nothing. |
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| 15:23.32 | dvs | ??? |
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| 15:23.35 | Phated | Why -t auto, anyway? |
| 15:23.36 | OverDr1ve | dvs: And, I still can't mount the drive. |
| 15:23.37 | dvs | Hmmm.... I don't know then |
| 15:23.51 | anarcat | lovely |
| 15:23.56 | abrotman | no discs mount ? |
| 15:23.57 | anarcat | diff: /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 15:23.59 | OverDr1ve | This is stupid, considering I'm using a generic kernel-image |
| 15:24.06 | shingouz | OverDr1ve: what kernel do you use and have you been able to use the dvd drive before? |
| 15:24.17 | websdale | OverDr1ve: you sure the CD is OK in the drive |
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| 15:24.38 | OverDr1ve | shingouz: This is a fresh install of Debian Sarge, and I didn't try mounting anything while using 2.4.27. |
| 15:24.39 | Vegar | anyone got any experience with building deb packages from sources using autotools? |
| 15:24.49 | OverDr1ve | shingouz: I installed kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 15:25.05 | OverDr1ve | websdale: Yes, and other discs don't work. |
| 15:25.18 | wannabe | heh reading old alt.hacking posts, someone asks where to get a good wifi access point scannes, someone responds "Try a pringles tube." |
| 15:25.19 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: dmesg | grep hdc |
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| 15:25.31 | OverDr1ve | Wanderer: lmao. |
| 15:25.33 | wannabe | *scanner |
| 15:25.40 | shingouz | OverDr1ve: unless you have dual processors you do not neet the smp kernel. does the drive work at all? under some other o/s that is? |
| 15:25.42 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: No output. |
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| 15:25.47 | OverDr1ve | shingouz: Hyper-threading. |
| 15:25.51 | Phated | Heh. |
| 15:25.52 | usernameDeb02 | gday all.. |
| 15:25.56 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: didn't you say hdc was your dvd drive ? |
| 15:25.59 | wannabe | gday mate |
| 15:26.12 | OverDr1ve | shingouz: Yes, it works fine under Windows, and it worked fine to install Debian, several hours ago. |
| 15:26.17 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Yes it is. |
| 15:26.19 | liable | !aussismite me |
| 15:26.27 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: then debian isn't seeing your drive ... |
| 15:26.28 | liable | fuck! |
| 15:26.29 | Phated | OverDr1ve: dmesg | grep hd, and look for what actually looks like your drive. |
| 15:26.34 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: dpkg | grep -i dvd |
| 15:26.45 | abrotman | hdc: UJDA740 DVD/CDRW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 15:26.46 | abrotman | lik ethat |
| 15:26.50 | Phated | Yeh. |
| 15:27.00 | abrotman | but it might not be hdc |
| 15:27.05 | OverDr1ve | Phated: Only output was: SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-byte hdwr sectors (120034 MB) - my hard disk |
| 15:27.11 | Phated | It could be any number of other things. |
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| 15:27.18 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: dmesg | grep -i dvd |
| 15:27.22 | abrotman | or cd |
| 15:27.37 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: No good - it returns: "dpkg: need an action option" |
| 15:27.43 | liable | that wont work will it? |
| 15:27.45 | abrotman | dmesg .. not dpkg |
| 15:27.56 | abrotman | liable: huh? |
| 15:27.57 | takatumi | !blame abrotman |
| 15:27.59 | Phated | Hm. Likely to be sg0 or sr0, isn't it, in that case? |
| 15:28.05 | abrotman | takatumi: oh .. yeah |
| 15:28.14 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Ah, the first time you typed dpkg, didn't read the second time, sorry. |
| 15:28.17 | usernameDeb02 | so.. where doth one find the running services please?.. cause in debian menu - apps - system - services admin just gets one an error 'Cannot launch entry Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/services-admin" (No such file or directory)' ?? |
| 15:28.22 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: yeah .. i'm still waking up :) |
| 15:28.23 | liable | abrotman: it wont show dvd will it? |
| 15:28.29 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: In that case, no output. |
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| 15:28.36 | Phated | abrotman: Heh, read 'wanking up'. |
| 15:28.36 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: only been 4.5 hours .. you'd think i'd be up by now :) |
| 15:28.42 | asg | usernameDeb02: ps aux |
| 15:28.42 | abrotman | Phated: only you |
| 15:28.44 | takatumi | usernameDeb02: tried ps? |
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| 15:28.48 | Phated | abrotman: Indeed. |
| 15:29.04 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: for some reason . debian isn't seeing your dvd drive .. |
| 15:29.06 | liable | abrotman: nm |
| 15:29.14 | Vegar | do I run autogen.sh and/or the configure script before or after running dh_make? |
| 15:29.15 | usernameDeb02 | command line only access to running services admin on sarge mates? |
| 15:29.15 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: does the bios see it ? |
| 15:29.16 | takatumi | usernameDeb02: pstree and top might help as well. |
| 15:29.18 | liable | abrotman: ignore me! |
| 15:29.25 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Indeed. Everything other than Debian sees it. |
| 15:29.26 | abrotman | usernameDeb02: update-rc.d |
| 15:29.34 | abrotman | liable: *plonk* |
| 15:29.36 | abrotman | :) |
| 15:29.50 | liable | heh, fuck you :P |
| 15:29.54 | usernameDeb02 | no gui services admin eh? |
| 15:29.58 | asg | Vegar: generally, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot is all you need (provided dh_make worked correctly) |
| 15:30.00 | abrotman | rcconf .. maybe? |
| 15:30.17 | usernameDeb02 | for us 'gui afllicted' newbies?.. heh |
| 15:30.28 | OverDr1ve | I still prefer BSD-style init scripts to SysV-style init scripts. |
| 15:30.42 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Do you have any idea what I can do? :( |
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| 15:30.48 | asg | OverDr1ve: the only problem is that stopping and starting services requires more work |
| 15:30.49 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: modprobe ide_cd;modprobe cdrom |
| 15:31.05 | abrotman | i don't hitnk there's a dvd module |
| 15:31.07 | Phated | Yeah, we all feel sorry, really. |
| 15:31.33 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Done. |
| 15:31.45 | abrotman | Overand: dmesg | grep -i dvd |
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| 15:32.01 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: It still isn't doing any favours for me :( |
| 15:32.03 | liable | Funnily enough, I have been having problems with my cdrom, which is intermediate and happens on several kernels.. but I was thinking its my hardware.. |
| 15:32.04 | Vegar | asg: so I just run dh_make on a clean, unmodified source? |
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| 15:32.10 | asg | Vegar: that's the idea |
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| 15:32.25 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: just do a `dmesg` .. and look at the end .. see anything useful ? |
| 15:32.27 | asg | Vegar: it isn't perfect but for some source, it works. |
| 15:32.41 | asg | Vegar: otherwise, you have to do the work yourself (/msg dpkg mg) |
| 15:32.43 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Nope. :( |
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| 15:32.58 | anthrax[net] | until the install of debian while the patrition is created die scrapslock and rolling light flashes at the keyboard |
| 15:32.58 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: you don't have any append options on your kernel do you ? |
| 15:33.02 | dvs | OverDr1ve: What chipset does your computer use? |
| 15:33.04 | liable | OverDr1ve: what version of debian? |
| 15:33.06 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Woudln't have a clue. |
| 15:33.15 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: then that's probably a no |
| 15:33.16 | OverDr1ve | dvs: My motherboard chipset? |
| 15:33.21 | dvs | OverDr1ve: yes |
| 15:33.23 | OverDr1ve | liable: I used the netinst. |
| 15:33.28 | OverDr1ve | dvs: Intel 865P |
| 15:33.31 | usernameDeb02 | btw mates.. |
| 15:33.33 | wxAgeless | how manu you are!!! |
| 15:33.49 | liable | we are manu!! |
| 15:33.54 | anthrax[net] | what is the meaning? |
| 15:33.56 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: do you have the i830 module loaded ? |
| 15:34.00 | shingouz | wxAgeless: we are a legion |
| 15:34.03 | wxAgeless | many , sorry! i am russian |
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| 15:34.08 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: No idea. |
| 15:34.11 | usernameDeb02 | bit confused on why logged in on term as 'su' can use / access gui apps.. yet 'su -' cannot? |
| 15:34.13 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: and please please tell me you have discover installed |
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| 15:34.23 | dvs | no idea |
| 15:34.30 | liable | wxAgeless: theres a russion channel if you like :) |
| 15:34.30 | cddesjar | is it possible to put sid on a pentium 1 |
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| 15:34.39 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Yes I do. |
| 15:34.41 | wxAgeless | where? |
| 15:34.44 | asg | !ru |
| 15:34.44 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 15:34.46 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I just ran discover |
| 15:34.51 | drac | cddesjar: Yes. |
| 15:34.53 | wxAgeless | thanx |
| 15:34.53 | usernameDeb02 | does 'su -' userlevel on sarge = different init level access maybe? |
| 15:34.54 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: No output from it. |
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| 15:35.03 | shingouz | cddesjar: of course it is. i have sid on a 486 but if you have to ask about it, you should not run sid |
| 15:35.03 | cddesjar | excellent |
| 15:35.16 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Now what? |
| 15:35.20 | cddesjar | shingouz: this is my play computer and i want it to break |
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| 15:35.41 | cddesjar | shingouz: i want to learn more about debian and sid so i am putting on this computer to fiddle around with it |
| 15:35.41 | shingouz | cddesjar: your computer, install what you like |
| 15:35.49 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: i'm thinking .. it's a regular PATA dvd ? |
| 15:35.50 | anthrax[net] | until the install of debian while the patrition is created die scrapslock and rolling light flashes at the keyboard |
| 15:35.52 | Vegar | asg: dh_make said "Currently there is no top level Makefile. This may require additional tuning." |
| 15:35.53 | cddesjar | shingouz: it's a freebie! |
| 15:35.56 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: AFAIK, yes. |
| 15:35.59 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: and you used it to install ? |
| 15:36.08 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: That is correct. |
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| 15:36.18 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: do you have any other kernels installed ? |
| 15:36.18 | asg | Vegar: hmmm, you might try running ./configure <options> to gen one. |
| 15:36.31 | abrotman | like .. kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386 ? |
| 15:36.48 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: No, shall I install it? |
| 15:36.48 | shingouz | cddesjar: so? a few of my comptuers are freebies too. and yes, Sid does run on P1 hardware, it runs on a 386 for that matter |
| 15:36.52 | abrotman | err .. -2 |
| 15:37.00 | shingouz | food |
| 15:37.12 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I'm running kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 15:37.13 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: did you use a 2.4 or 2.6 during the install ? |
| 15:37.18 | asg | shingouz: thought they removed pure 386 support? |
| 15:37.20 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: 2.4 |
| 15:37.26 | dvs | shingouz: I thought it wouldn't run on a 386 anymore |
| 15:37.30 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: then let's try that .. if you don't mind |
| 15:37.31 | cddesjar | shingouz: while i was jsut saying that it's not my primary computer and i don't mind fucking it up and being like, now what the hell am i suppose to d |
| 15:37.39 | shingouz | asg: they did? :o |
| 15:37.50 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I'll have to re-add it to GRUB, change my fstab |
| 15:38.00 | asg | shingouz: maybe, I could be wrong |
| 15:38.02 | liable | why? |
| 15:38.05 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: oh . it's still installed ? |
| 15:38.09 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Yes. |
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| 15:38.26 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: An ls returned: vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 15:38.28 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: then yes .. setup grub for it |
| 15:38.31 | shingouz | asg: and i might be wrong but afaik debian binaries are compiled for 386 |
| 15:38.36 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: update-grub |
| 15:38.42 | abrotman | !tell mikele about knoppix |
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| 15:38.58 | liable | OverDr1ve: why? it should still be in grub menu. |
| 15:39.05 | Vegar | asg: Should I run autogen.sh before or after dh_make? |
| 15:39.09 | OverDr1ve | liable: I removed it... |
| 15:39.10 | asg | shingouz: I'll look into it. Go have your food :) |
| 15:39.25 | abrotman | shingouz: stop sleeping! |
| 15:39.29 | drc | I don't understand why can't I change the resolution to next in X with ctrlalt+/-. |
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| 15:39.48 | asg | Vegar: ./configure should do it. I'm not sure otherwise. |
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| 15:39.50 | dvs | drc: Numeric keypad + and - ? |
| 15:39.53 | abrotman | asg: gcc removed support for 386 |
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| 15:40.00 | drc | dvs: yeah |
| 15:40.06 | takatumi | asg, shingouz: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2004/10/msg00059.html |
| 15:40.08 | asg | abrotman: ah, okay. |
| 15:40.10 | Vegar | asg: autogen.sh generates the configure script |
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| 15:40.18 | abrotman | asg: remember the dwns ? |
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| 15:40.23 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I'm going to boot that kernel now, be back shortly. |
| 15:40.29 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: ah ok |
| 15:40.34 | asg | Vegar: then run it |
| 15:41.15 | asg | abrotman: *nod* |
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| 15:41.28 | abrotman | asg: try harder .. remember! |
| 15:41.41 | asg | abrotman: can't, it's been a long week :) |
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| 15:41.55 | abrotman | asg: let me see if i can find it |
| 15:41.56 | asg | abrotman: I had to learn TeX again and I'm all tapped out. |
| 15:42.13 | dvs | asg: poor soul! |
| 15:42.35 | abrotman | asg: http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/node.php?id=1222 |
| 15:42.38 | abrotman | asg: yep .. that'll do it |
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| 15:43.09 | KomiaPoika | is there alternative to Tex to edit physics formulas |
| 15:43.18 | abrotman | LaTeX |
| 15:43.21 | KomiaPoika | loll |
| 15:43.21 | dvs | KomiaPoika: Lyx |
| 15:43.24 | KomiaPoika | n1 |
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| 15:43.28 | drc | I have many resolutions in XF86Config-4 config file but ctrl alt +/- doesn't change resolution, any ideas why? |
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| 15:44.00 | asg | abrotman: that was for sarge though, I was wondering if they'd come to consensus regarding etch / sid. |
| 15:44.02 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: It works fine in this 2.4 kernel. |
| 15:44.12 | abrotman | asg: no idea .... |
| 15:44.17 | dvs | drc: Only one resolution is specified in the config file? |
| 15:44.18 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: well that sucks donkey balls |
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| 15:44.25 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: is the 2.4 an SMP kernel ? |
| 15:44.28 | zap | after `hdparm -W0 /dev/hda`, the write cache is still active according to `hdparm -i /dev/hda`. note that /dev/hda is not mounted. do i have to refresh anything? |
| 15:44.30 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Yes it does. |
| 15:44.33 | OverDr1ve | Overand: No. |
| 15:44.37 | drc | dvs: no |
| 15:44.41 | OverDr1ve | Overand: Sorry, |
| 15:44.42 | asg | abrotman: ah well, no big deal. The last 486 I had went with my old fiancee to redneck land. |
| 15:44.47 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: No. It isn't SMP. |
| 15:44.50 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: can you install a 2.6 single cpu kernel ? |
| 15:44.52 | Col_Kernel | drc: what about xrandr? |
| 15:44.53 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: It's 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 15:44.57 | abrotman | asg: i still have one :) |
| 15:44.58 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Sure, hold on. |
| 15:45.00 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: wait |
| 15:45.02 | nono31 | someone had problems with nautilus lately? (kind of today)... Mine just lost a bunch of things like: doesnt recognize my desktop icons as application shortcut... does not open any file correctly... does not give any application choice on "Open with another application" (right clicking on a file, like openoffice file) |
| 15:45.07 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: yes? |
| 15:45.08 | drc | Col_Kernel: xrandr=? |
| 15:45.11 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: kernel-image-2.4-686-smp |
| 15:45.17 | asg | abrotman: I have a sparcstation 20 and a PI 200/48M |
| 15:45.21 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: You're the boss. |
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| 15:45.40 | abrotman | asg: you should get an E250 |
| 15:45.40 | liable | zap: sid? |
| 15:45.43 | Col_Kernel | drc: xrandr allows you to change the resolution |
| 15:45.49 | asg | abrotman: I'm hoping to when we decom ours. |
| 15:46.06 | abrotman | asg: if i had a bigger place . i'd get a Blade 1000 |
| 15:46.08 | Col_Kernel | drc: or do you want to keep your virtual screen size? |
| 15:46.11 | asg | abrotman: actually though, I'm leaning to smaller fanless SBC setups these days for home use. |
| 15:46.18 | delirium | anybody know how I can configure touchpad tapping in XF86Config-4 ? |
| 15:46.28 | ufoalien | anybody of you got a notebook with radeon mobility 9700 |
| 15:46.29 | ufoalien | ? |
| 15:46.34 | Vegar | asg: I'll experiment with it. Thanks for your help. |
| 15:46.34 | abrotman | !touchpad |
| 15:46.34 | dpkg | hmm... touchpad is Touchpads are usually PS/2, set them up in X on /dev/psaux, proto IMPS/2 |
| 15:46.40 | abrotman | !synaptics |
| 15:46.40 | dpkg | hmm... synaptics is http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html#Download, or for synaptics support in x install xfree86-driver-synaptics, or try modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse if its not working |
| 15:46.46 | asg | Vegar: sorry I didn't have a definitive answer. Good luck though. |
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| 15:47.20 | delirium | yes I know, and the touchpad is working fine, everything except for the tapping |
| 15:47.21 | liable | zap: hdparm is giving me the shits at the moment.. |
| 15:47.23 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Booting it now, BRB. |
| 15:47.39 | delirium | I enabled tapping in ksynaptics, but that also doesn't work |
| 15:47.40 | abrotman | err .. shit .. i meant to have him install 2.6-686 |
| 15:47.42 | abrotman | ffs .. |
| 15:48.05 | abrotman | or however it's spelled |
| 15:48.26 | wannabe | close enough for volunteer work |
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| 15:48.35 | asg | abrotman: yggdrail |
| 15:48.38 | asg | boh |
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| 15:48.41 | asg | abrotman: yggdrasil |
| 15:48.47 | wannabe | hehe |
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| 15:49.01 | jeffopi | I want to remove Gnome but apt-get remove gnome-core only removes a 16.4kb file ;( |
| 15:49.02 | drc | Col_Kernel: -s <size>/<width>x<height>, what does the 'size' part in this option mean? |
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| 15:49.11 | abrotman | asg: do you know if the 2.6 kernels from sid work in sarge? |
| 15:49.13 | asg | jeffopi: /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 15:49.26 | asg | abrotman: no, I don't. Most of them don't even work in sid :) |
| 15:49.30 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:49.40 | btsdev | if i'm running a file server for back-ups and stuff, where should i keep the files in the directory tree? |
| 15:49.41 | drc | Col_Kernel: I don't know what do you mean with virtual screen size, but I would like to have at least 1024x768 resolution in X |
| 15:49.47 | asg | abrotman: the 2.6.11 and 2.6.12 don't work with this laptop, I'm still running 2.6.10 which is fine. |
| 15:49.47 | delirium | in XF86Config-4 you can configure touchpad with a lot of options, is there such an option for enabling/disabling tapping ? |
| 15:50.14 | Col_Kernel | drc: size is just a number, see output of xrandr without parameters |
| 15:50.28 | asg | abrotman: 2.6.11 touchpad issues, 2.6.12 booted but acpi showed the proc at 186F before it crashed. |
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| 15:50.42 | drac | I'm here just to mess with your nick completions *g* |
| 15:50.46 | abrotman | asg: lovely ... |
| 15:50.52 | abrotman | asg: i blame dell :) |
| 15:51.01 | drc | Col_Kernel: Oh I see. 800x600 is highest in there, why doesn't it read the XF86Config-4 file? |
| 15:51.16 | asg | abrotman: they are probably at fault but I've had issues with 2.6 kernels since the very beginning |
| 15:51.26 | abrotman | asg: i blame dell :) |
| 15:51.48 | asg | abrotman: it might be pebcak also, I just haven't had time to fiddle. |
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| 15:52.05 | abrotman | asg: you should get an underling :) |
| 15:52.18 | Col_Kernel | drc: maybe it is read, but ignored. is there some hint in /var/log/XFree86.0.log? |
| 15:52.19 | asg | abrotman: I have a position for one, I just don't have budget right now. |
| 15:52.28 | drc | Col_Kernel: let's see |
| 15:52.31 | abrotman | asg: your wife doesn't work? |
| 15:52.40 | asg | abrotman: yes, she's a teacher. |
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| 15:52.54 | abrotman | asg: i meant as your underling/position filler :) |
| 15:53.10 | asg | abrotman: she knows dick about network security. |
| 15:53.16 | abrotman | asg: think dirty ...!!!! |
| 15:53.27 | asg | abrotman: oh, that's a given. |
| 15:53.35 | btsdev | On servers, where is the best place in the directory tree to keep back-ups from other computers to be shared via samba/ |
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| 15:53.56 | abrotman | btsdev: that's up to you .. we have no idea what your server is configured like |
| 15:53.58 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: ? |
| 15:54.15 | KomiaPoika | does anyone have success stories with WoW in debian |
| 15:54.19 | liable | backups over samba? |
| 15:54.24 | abrotman | amanda ... |
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| 15:54.44 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: The fucker wouldn't even boot, so I booted the 2.6 kernel again, and I looked through the booting output, and noticed that the module "ide-detect" failed to load. That MUST mean something. |
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| 15:55.08 | sadfgg | #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash at top in a script? |
| 15:55.10 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: yeah .. that's bad .. only other option is kernel-image-2.6-686 .. |
| 15:55.16 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: The 2.4-2-686-smp got a kernel panic |
| 15:55.20 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I'll try that then. |
| 15:55.23 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: uninstall that one |
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| 15:55.48 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: the broken one i mean |
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| 15:55.58 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Well of course. |
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| 15:56.16 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I'll uninstall it when I boot the new one. |
| 15:56.43 | drc | Col_Kernel: (insufficient memory for mode), might this be the reason? :/ |
| 15:56.49 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: ah ok |
| 15:56.52 | abrotman | liable: slacker |
| 15:57.02 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Hey! Slackware's cool! :P |
| 15:57.20 | drc | (II) s3(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name) |
| 15:57.27 | drc | what does this mean |
| 15:57.31 | btsdev | abrotman: it's a file server that only one machine is going to be rsyncing or something to keep back-ups. should i keep the files in /usr somewhere; like what are some possibilities.. i don't want to keep all the files in someone's home directory, you know? |
| 15:57.40 | Col_Kernel | drc: unlikely |
| 15:57.46 | Col_Kernel | drc: sry, don't know |
| 15:57.50 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I think most distros are cool, other than SuSE/RH/FC and all RPM-based distros |
| 15:58.10 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: there are a lot of bad ones |
| 15:58.12 | liable | abrotman: yeah, unfortunately, i have to wake up tommorrow and do stuff.. :) |
| 15:58.13 | drc | no problem |
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| 15:58.26 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Indeed there are. *cough* fedora |
| 15:58.30 | abrotman | liable: like what?!?! |
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| 15:58.40 | drc | I didn't know that video card with 1mb of memory can't run higher resolutions than 800x600, at least it should be able to, hmm. |
| 15:58.46 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Alright, the kernel's ready, I'll boot her up. |
| 15:58.55 | wxAgeless | no! #debian-russian = talks about nothing |
| 15:58.58 | liable | abrotman: erm, shit I should have done today :) |
| 15:59.06 | rking | i'm having a weird problem - my mouse, which is USB, lsusb has it, the LED's light up when I move it, but cat X won't start up, and I can't cat /dev/input/mice dmesg recorded a few hid-input.c warnings that may or may not have always been there ("event field not found" x 3 (grouped), "ctrl usb status -32 received" x 3 or 4 (scattered)) any clues? |
| 15:59.08 | abrotman | liable: i know the feeling |
| 15:59.28 | Col_Kernel | drc: it has only 1MB?, yes, that is the reason |
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| 16:00.04 | drc | Col_Kernel: yes it has. But I remember using higher resolutions with it in windows95, like.. many many many years ago |
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| 16:00.34 | drac | drc: Maybe if you drop your DefaultDepth from XF86Config-4 to 8, or 16 you could get higher resolution |
| 16:00.48 | drc | It is 16 :) |
| 16:01.01 | Col_Kernel | drc: 16 is too much, 8 might work |
| 16:01.13 | drc | Col_Kernel: but how does 8 look like? ugly? |
| 16:01.32 | Col_Kernel | drc: probably :) 256 colors ... |
| 16:01.37 | wxAgeless | VERY |
| 16:01.37 | drc | I rather have 16 bit with 800.. :P |
| 16:01.53 | drc | oh yeah, I remember those times with 256 colors |
| 16:01.58 | drac | drc: Get your ass here, and i'll contribute free Voodoo 3 with 16MB to you ;-) |
| 16:02.08 | rking | is there a usb debugger, where i can view the raw bytes as they come across the system? |
| 16:02.12 | drc | drac: where are you then? :P |
| 16:02.18 | drac | drc: Finland ;P |
| 16:02.30 | drac | drc: Err, so are you?! Uusikaupunki. |
| 16:02.42 | drc | drac: yeah, yes I am |
| 16:02.53 | drc | drac: in Laukaa, next to Jyväskylä |
| 16:03.01 | drac | Hours, and hours of drive :-/ |
| 16:03.06 | abrotman | asg: remember? ... you don't still use? |
| 16:03.15 | drc | Maybe I will grab another videocard from somewhere. |
| 16:03.17 | asg | abrotman: thankfully, no. |
| 16:03.19 | drc | drac: indeed, not worth it :) |
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| 16:03.39 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: No, it still doesn't fucking work. |
| 16:03.41 | abrotman | asg: 16 colors! |
| 16:03.57 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=283188 |
| 16:04.06 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: i was doing research while you were gone :) |
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| 16:04.22 | OverDr1ve | Ah damnit... hold on, I'll load X |
| 16:04.31 | abrotman | links works too :) |
| 16:05.03 | drc | links works, but it's not very enjoyable, heh. |
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| 16:05.09 | asg | abrotman: xterm -fg orange (for that amnesia feeling) |
| 16:05.14 | nosetrick | a friendly debian user in here who could do me a little favor? |
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| 16:05.31 | abrotman | asg: i loved the orange term at my uni .. we only had one |
| 16:05.33 | asg | !tell nosetrick about ask |
| 16:05.35 | xophEr | is gnome 2.10 in etch yet? |
| 16:05.40 | nosetrick | ok |
| 16:05.41 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Sorry, can you give me that URL again please? |
| 16:05.45 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel etch |
| 16:05.47 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=283188 |
| 16:05.47 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-1 (etch), Packaged size: 396 kB, Installed size: 892 kB |
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| 16:05.55 | KomiaPoika | does anyone run world of warcraft in debian |
| 16:05.57 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 16:06.04 | nosetrick | could somebody compile me my c wlan driver sources in debian? |
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| 16:06.37 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: So do I modprobe ide_generic? |
| 16:06.45 | drc | KomiaPoika: can you run it? |
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| 16:06.51 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: try it .. that's all i can say |
| 16:06.57 | drc | I mean, is it possible to run it |
| 16:07.00 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Wow! It didn't work... |
| 16:07.06 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: wait .. did it load ? |
| 16:07.10 | KomiaPoika | drc: yes, but i'm looking for a foolproof howto |
| 16:07.15 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Don't have a fucking clue |
| 16:07.16 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: you'd still have to load the other ide modules after that :) |
| 16:07.19 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: lsmod :) |
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| 16:07.30 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: It's loaded. |
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| 16:07.43 | drc | KomiaPoika: any idea how well it runs? :P |
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| 16:07.59 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: modprobe ide_id ;modprobe cdrom |
| 16:08.06 | KomiaPoika | drc: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine |
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| 16:08.26 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Argh! |
| 16:08.30 | abrotman | cdd ide_cd :) |
| 16:08.32 | abrotman | err |
| 16:08.33 | abrotman | ide_cd |
| 16:08.38 | nosetrick | asg?` |
| 16:08.41 | abrotman | fucking shit .. i should really not be on irc today :) |
| 16:08.44 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: argh? |
| 16:08.54 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: It's still not fucking working. |
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| 16:09.09 | OverDr1ve | Fuck, would I be better off compiling my own damn kernel? |
| 16:09.16 | plb | anyone using postfix in unstable? |
| 16:09.21 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: you might be ... |
| 16:09.23 | drac | KomiaPoika: If it works in Gentoo, it works in Debian too. (Whell, might need some additional work but..) |
| 16:09.25 | abrotman | !tell OverDr1ve about kp |
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| 16:09.28 | abrotman | !tell Col_Kernel about away |
| 16:09.33 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Fine... stupid useless kernel-image |
| 16:09.51 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I know how to compile a kernel |
| 16:09.55 | plb | hm postfix-script seems to be missing in /etc/postfix? |
| 16:09.55 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: not useless .. apparently broken in your case .. i've used them on other machines with no issues |
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| 16:10.06 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I don't know how to deal with stupid problems like these |
| 16:10.12 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: i was just making sure :) .. dont' take it out on me .. i don't make the kernel-images |
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| 16:10.18 | Vegar | why does it say "i486-linux-gnu-g++: No such file or directory" when I run i486-linux-gnu-g++ with no arguments? |
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| 16:10.26 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: I'm not |
| 16:11.09 | Vegar | which i486-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/ccache/i486-linux-gnu-g++, which is a symlink to ../../bin/ccache |
| 16:11.21 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: i wonder if you put the ide-generic in the /etc/modules if you might have different results ? |
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| 16:12.11 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: The hell with this, I'm going to bed |
| 16:12.27 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Thanks for your help - but this is ridiculous and I'm going to sleep and then install something else tomorrow |
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| 16:12.59 | OverDr1ve | abrotman: Bye. |
| 16:13.24 | abrotman | OverDr1ve: ok .. later |
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| 16:13.36 | s3r0 | hey guys i have a prob ,, my Debian kernel source boot but it stop just right when it finish booting |
| 16:13.59 | abrotman | starting what? |
| 16:14.00 | rking | s3r0: what's the last line you see? |
| 16:14.03 | s3r0 | u know cron is like the last thing to boot so it wont start |
| 16:14.08 | abrotman | !u |
| 16:14.08 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 16:15.21 | s3r0 | the last line i see is periodic command scheduler:cron |
| 16:15.22 | gniretar | !ne1 |
| 16:15.22 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 16:15.27 | rking | s3r0: are you sure your init stuff isn't goofed? |
| 16:15.27 | zap | liable: hm, what do you mean by "it is giving you shits"? |
| 16:15.35 | gniretar | !wud |
| 16:15.36 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 16:15.51 | s3r0 | i got my inittab on 3 |
| 16:16.05 | btsdev | abrotman: is it standard for people just to make a directory in the root of the file tree on servers for filesharing and stuff? like /backups and /dvds? |
| 16:16.10 | rking | s3r0: that's not the debian default. you doin somethin crazy? |
| 16:16.16 | s3r0 | or u mean like on the kernel configuration ? |
| 16:16.20 | gniretar | !u |
| 16:16.20 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:16.22 | abrotman | btsdev: not for me :) |
| 16:16.36 | s3r0 | Debioan default is 2 but i think is the same right |
| 16:16.37 | abrotman | !moronspeak |
| 16:16.38 | dpkg | FUKN SPEK PRPLY U FKN M0R0NZ!!!!11 See <sms-over-irc> <ne1> <lol> <2> <u> <r> <k>, or see http://www.hohto.to/forums/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=17720. Adding -ies, -rama or any other puerile suffix to words also qualifies, and will entitle you to a free glass of shut the fuck up. |
| 16:16.40 | nosetrick | could somebody compile me my c wlan driver sources in debian? |
| 16:16.51 | gniretar | !lol |
| 16:16.51 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a porn star. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 16:17.00 | abrotman | nosetrick: why can't you? |
| 16:17.07 | gniretar | !r |
| 16:17.07 | dpkg | r is probably a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
| 16:17.15 | abrotman | gniretar: /msg dpkg r |
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| 16:17.36 | btsdev | abrotman: so heh your opinion.. where would you keep a backups folder on the server? |
| 16:17.36 | nosetrick | abrotman - I'm on windows right now - And I only have WLAN Internet Access - When I install debian I want to connect to the Internet |
| 16:17.48 | btsdev | abrotman: somewhere in /usr or something? i have no idea |
| 16:17.54 | abrotman | btsdev: myself .. probably /home/backups or some crap .. it depends where you have space |
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| 16:18.12 | rking | modprobe usbmouse is successful from what i can tell, but still i can't cat /dev/input/mice |
| 16:18.14 | abrotman | nosetrick: no 10/100 ? |
| 16:18.14 | btsdev | abrotman: everything is on one partition so space doesn't matter |
| 16:18.32 | rking | i guess i could do usb->ps2 for now, but that righteously sucks! |
| 16:18.33 | abrotman | btsdev: then put it where you'd like ... /var/ might be a popular place also |
| 16:18.41 | btsdev | abrotman: sweet thanks |
| 16:18.45 | nosetrick | abrotman - No 10/100 - just WLAN Network Card ("Realtek RTL8180 Wireless LAN (Mini-)PCI NIC") |
| 16:18.58 | abrotman | i htink that's supported by the linux26 image |
| 16:19.01 | gniretar | that is a good net card |
| 16:19.05 | gniretar | i love mine |
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| 16:19.39 | manbox | how is it possible to format and modify fs in debian, wich tools should i use |
| 16:19.41 | nosetrick | (gniretar): DO you have the same? |
| 16:19.46 | plb | no one here running postfix in unstable? |
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| 16:19.51 | gniretar | yes |
| 16:19.55 | abrotman | manbox: fdisk and mkfs ? |
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| 16:19.58 | nosetrick | (gniretar): Do you use debian? |
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| 16:20.03 | gniretar | plb: sorry, my postfix box is suse |
| 16:20.10 | abrotman | plb: why? |
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| 16:20.15 | gniretar | nosetrick: yes |
| 16:20.26 | nosetrick | (gniretar): Could you give me the debian drivers for this network card |
| 16:20.35 | abrotman | nosetrick: i think they are in the 2.6 images |
| 16:20.41 | gniretar | nosetrick: but i custom compile ALL my kernels so i prolly cant help you |
| 16:20.42 | nosetrick | no they aren't |
| 16:20.46 | plb | abrotman: I won't lie I don't know much about postfix but apparently there should be postfix-script in /etc/postfix/ which there isn't |
| 16:20.48 | nosetrick | my friend looked around |
| 16:20.57 | abrotman | plb: to do what ? |
| 16:20.58 | gniretar | i know they are in the kernel |
| 16:21.02 | gniretar | at least in the source from kernel.org |
| 16:21.15 | gniretar | get the latest kernel source and custom compile |
| 16:21.21 | nosetrick | I can't compile |
| 16:21.21 | gniretar | custom kernels are faster |
| 16:21.24 | gniretar | ? |
| 16:21.29 | gniretar | apt-get install gcc |
| 16:21.30 | plb | abrotman: dunno for what exactly but postfix doesn't want to start without it |
| 16:21.32 | __dan__ | What's the best way to start a server as a user other than root at system startup? |
| 16:21.36 | nosetrick | I'm not using Linux right now |
| 16:21.40 | abrotman | !find postfix-script |
| 16:21.41 | gniretar | ah |
| 16:21.48 | asg | plb: postfix: etc/postfix/postfix-script (if you don't have it, you aren't running debian, didn't install postfix, or deleted it) |
| 16:21.49 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'postfix-script' (2): (/etc/postfix/postfix-script) in mail/postfix ;; (/usr/share/doc/postfix-doc/examples/postfix-script.gz) in doc/postfix-doc. |
| 16:21.49 | gniretar | well, burn the kernel to a CD |
| 16:21.50 | abrotman | __dan__: init scripts .. and a port over 1024 |
| 16:21.55 | gniretar | and ake it to the computer with Linux |
| 16:22.00 | gniretar | and compile |
| 16:22.00 | nosetrick | okay |
| 16:22.01 | plb | er |
| 16:22.05 | plb | i didn't delete it |
| 16:22.07 | dvs | USB drive would be better |
| 16:22.09 | plb | and postfix is install |
| 16:22.11 | abrotman | plb: you sure? :) |
| 16:22.14 | plb | yes |
| 16:22.24 | abrotman | plb: i guess you could copy the one from the doc dir |
| 16:22.27 | rking | __dan__: sudo fumble /bin/true # will run as user fumble - make sure you configure sudo so root can do anything as anyone |
| 16:22.36 | gniretar | i know ppl think it is a hassle to custom compile but once you do it a few times and feel the speed and effiecincy of a 1.8 meg kernel you never go back |
| 16:22.42 | plb | abrotman: there isn't one |
| 16:22.49 | abrotman | gniretar: i did |
| 16:22.57 | asg | plb: dpkg -L postfix | grep postfix-script |
| 16:22.57 | abrotman | plb: it's in postfix-doc |
| 16:23.15 | plb | hrm wtf |
| 16:23.23 | plb | it says its in /etc/postfix but its not |
| 16:23.24 | abrotman | gniretar: it's so boring . and time consuming .. and well .. a waste of time .. |
| 16:23.29 | plb | maybe I should try reinstalling it |
| 16:24.09 | btsdev | abrotman: thanks for the help; later |
| 16:24.23 | gniretar | abrotman: meh, it is worth the time for the added speed. I had my dual 300 PII playing Quake at 800x600 with my wigged out kernel. |
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| 16:24.38 | abrotman | gniretar: and? |
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| 16:24.45 | abrotman | gniretar: my 486 used to play quake :) |
| 16:24.57 | abrotman | er .. wait .. that was doom :) |
| 16:25.03 | gniretar | u mean doom |
| 16:25.03 | __dan__ | rking: Cheers, that'll do it :) |
| 16:25.15 | abrotman | !tell gniretar about u |
| 16:25.19 | plb | hrmmm |
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| 16:25.22 | asg | abrotman: I had castle wolfenstein on my C64 |
| 16:25.23 | abrotman | gniretar: it's really a waste of time |
| 16:25.24 | gniretar | abrotman: when u custom compile you can optimise for your specific processor, you dont need to slow yourself down by using generic x86 compatability. |
| 16:25.26 | plb | ok reinstalled and it still isn't there |
| 16:25.28 | abrotman | asg: ROTT!!!! |
| 16:25.31 | abrotman | !tell gniretar about u |
| 16:25.36 | gniretar | oops |
| 16:25.40 | asg | abrotman: that was a good one |
| 16:25.42 | plb | teh postfix is broken!@ |
| 16:25.48 | gniretar | !teh |
| 16:25.48 | dpkg | Broken keyboard or hand |
| 16:25.49 | abrotman | gniretar: i have a 686 .. i have a 686 kernel .. what's the problem? |
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| 16:26.01 | gniretar | 686 is still generic |
| 16:26.11 | abrotman | gniretar: compared to what? |
| 16:26.15 | omniwork | hey guys. i'm having trouble finding the official latest stable sarge installer |
| 16:26.17 | asg | plb: then you or something removed it. Just grab the deb and unpack it. Or install postfix-doc and get the sample from /usr/share/doc/postfix-doc/ |
| 16:26.19 | dvs | abrotman: I have a sk98lin NIC. The firmware isn't in the Debian kernel |
| 16:26.24 | omniwork | i thought they officially switched sarge to stable? |
| 16:26.25 | gniretar | when you custom you can take advantaghe of Intel or AND specific features your your sub-class of processor |
| 16:26.26 | abrotman | !d-i Omniscientist |
| 16:26.27 | dpkg | Omniscientist, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 16:26.32 | abrotman | !d-i omniwork |
| 16:26.33 | dpkg | omniwork, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 16:26.47 | omniwork | thanks! |
| 16:26.54 | abrotman | gniretar: and you know for certain that the debian kernel-images don't? |
| 16:27.12 | asg | plb: or, /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 16:27.28 | plb | asg: alright I'll try grabbing it from postfix doc |
| 16:27.30 | gniretar | abrotman: they may but they sre still junked up with things necessary to support a broad range of kernels |
| 16:27.38 | gniretar | er, processors |
| 16:27.39 | asg | plb: try /msg dpkg confmiss first |
| 16:27.58 | abrotman | gniretar: i used to compile mine .. the kernel-images are no slower |
| 16:28.25 | abrotman | gniretar: and the biggest problem was having to recompile if i needed a new module for a new FS |
| 16:28.34 | gniretar | abrotman: if you say so, i did performance testing with a rpogram i wrote to calculate pi and my custom jobs were 10-15% faster |
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| 16:29.09 | abrotman | gniretar: i'm also on a laptop .. yay disk I/O |
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| 16:29.46 | gniretar | abrotman: i was on a laptop too, a Sony PCG F430 |
| 16:29.57 | plb | yay postfix integrity check failed woohoo |
| 16:30.05 | abrotman | gniretar: a vaio ? |
| 16:30.12 | gniretar | abrotman: yes |
| 16:30.17 | abrotman | gniretar: those traditionally have a better IO than a standard laptop |
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| 16:30.24 | abrotman | gniretar: i have an IBM TP G40 |
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| 16:30.46 | luite | wow I finally did it, I now have an rsync that preserves file ownership without root access... although it did take more time than I anticipated. had to use FUSE, a user-mode linux based loopback mounter, and had to patch rsync... but it works :) |
| 16:31.06 | gniretar | abrotman, listen i wish i could be more helpful, all i know is that i got that chipset working with a custom 2.6.10 kernel (recently upgraded to 2.6.12.3!!!) |
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| 16:31.23 | dvs | gniretar: You're behind. |
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| 16:31.30 | dvs | there's 2.6.12.4 now |
| 16:31.32 | abrotman | gniretar: i thought that driver was in the sarge install 2.6 |
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| 16:31.54 | abrotman | rafeal ? |
| 16:31.58 | gniretar | dvs: oh noes, i better upgrade |
| 16:31.59 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.11 | gregj | anyone knows where libgs.so is on debian ? ghostscript lib |
| 16:32.15 | nono31 | is there anyone having problems with gnome/nautilus ? |
| 16:32.19 | asg | gregj: /msg dpkg search |
| 16:32.23 | gniretar | abrotman: i have kernel source on the comp i am on right now, you said u has a 8010? |
| 16:32.25 | abrotman | !tell gregj about search |
| 16:32.28 | abrotman | !u |
| 16:32.29 | abrotman | !u |
| 16:32.31 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:32.32 | gregj | asg: I stried apt-cache search |
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| 16:32.37 | gregj | asg: doesn't see anything |
| 16:32.44 | abrotman | !find libgs.so sarge |
| 16:32.53 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libgs.so' returned no results. |
| 16:32.57 | asg | gregj: and apt-file search and talking to the bot; there are many ways to search |
| 16:33.00 | abrotman | gniretar: yes .. 8010 is what he had |
| 16:33.06 | gniretar | abrotman: crap, i did it again. is that he chipset? |
| 16:33.12 | gniretar | abrotman: brb then |
| 16:33.14 | abrotman | gniretar: i think it was |
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| 16:33.32 | vinay | im confused... perl: warning: set locale failed. .... it says LC_ALL = (unset) ... where is the file that controls locale settings? |
| 16:33.41 | abrotman | asg: and that's why i'm no op .. i'd ban people for language infractions :) |
| 16:33.58 | abrotman | vinay: ubuntu ? |
| 16:34.11 | asg | abrotman: well, you wouldn't be an op for long, that's for sure :) |
| 16:34.23 | abrotman | asg: ok .. maybe just +q |
| 16:34.30 | abrotman | asg: and only for a minute or two |
| 16:34.44 | vinay | abrotman: no, debian testing |
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| 16:35.00 | abrotman | vinay: make sure your locales are set |
| 16:35.05 | vinay | abrotman: its a laptop somebody else installed.. must've screwed up locale settings at install.. now perl (and hence apt) whines |
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| 16:35.11 | vinay | abrotman: thats my question, where are locales set? :-) |
| 16:35.19 | codemaster | here i'am, finally got it running |
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| 16:37.15 | asg | vinay: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 16:37.33 | gniretar | abrotman: i'm sorry, i was thinking the 8169 chipset. I'm looking at the linuxquestions HCL and noone has ever heard of a 8010 is this thing really new? Are you sure you have the right number? |
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| 16:38.08 | abrotman | vinay: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 16:38.28 | abrotman | gniretar: lastlog him .. i htnk it was |
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| 16:39.40 | gniretar | abrotman: well, if you cant get it to work, i recommend you pick up comthing based on the 8139 chip |
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| 16:39.49 | dvs | yuck! |
| 16:39.58 | gniretar | abrotman: i have ove 10 of these cards and they kick major a$$ |
| 16:40.12 | gniretar | abrotman: they are usually under $15 |
| 16:40.13 | abrotman | gniretar: mine works fine |
| 16:40.13 | gniretar | over* |
| 16:40.40 | gniretar | abrotman oh wait, this thing was on a laptop. nevermind |
| 16:41.05 | gniretar | abrotman, yea, google shows no record of that chitset ever existing i would double check your laptop |
| 16:41.24 | vinay | abrotman:, asg thanks... that solved it.. just had to rebuild en_US |
| 16:41.25 | abrotman | gniretar: it's not my laptop .. mine works fine |
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| 16:42.53 | gniretar | abrotman: OK, whatever computer that was on |
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| 16:53.59 | isensi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:55.08 | chealer | isensi: what kind of crash? |
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| 16:55.36 | outlaw84 | how do I find out what is looking a hardrive device? |
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| 16:55.41 | isensi | lost connection to it and doesnt wake up on keyboard |
| 16:56.23 | abrotman | outlaw84: depending on device .. fuser |
| 16:56.26 | abrotman | or lsof |
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| 16:56.56 | chealer | isensi: hum, can you reproduce that? |
| 16:57.09 | Arrowhead | hey all |
| 16:57.13 | isensi | i intended to do $ grep -nri "_SERVER" ./* |
| 16:57.14 | chealer | such a command certainly *loads* a server |
| 16:57.35 | Arrowhead | i was wondering if someone can help me with an ssh question.... |
| 16:57.35 | outlaw84 | abrotman: I got it with lsof... forgot that the mp3s I am listing to is on that device :) |
| 16:57.44 | abrotman | ok |
| 16:57.56 | chealer | isensi: just grep -nri "_SERVER" * should do that |
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| 16:58.20 | isensi | ill reset and reboot and runthat command again |
| 16:58.24 | outlaw84 | how do you format a partition into ext3 from vfat without doing any repartitioning? |
| 16:58.38 | chealer | isensi: first $ ls -l /proc/kcore |
| 16:58.52 | abrotman | outlaw84: you'd have to use fdisk and change partition type |
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| 16:59.26 | Arrowhead | i've been checking my auth.log and noticed that ppl have been trying to brute force my SSH connection......is there any way to tell ssh to block connections from an IP after like 10 failed retries or something? |
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| 17:00.50 | isensi | Arrowhead obscure ssh port is a possibilty there |
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| 17:01.02 | outlaw84 | abrotman: isn't there any gui app where I can do this? |
| 17:01.10 | abrotman | not that i've used |
| 17:01.36 | Arrowhead | iseni: you mean make it port 1234 or something? |
| 17:01.37 | isensi | chealer -r-------- 1 root root 210059264 Aug 13 18:56 /proc/kcore |
| 17:01.54 | ginipig | hi guys. how do I grep for a character (say ':') from the first character of each line of a set of files? |
| 17:02.00 | Arrowhead | isensi: ive thought about that, but that doesn't stop port scanners |
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| 17:02.49 | chealer | isensi: did you launch grep as root |
| 17:02.55 | BlakeOPS | Hello, I just installed the latest stable Debian netinst and installed asterisk from CVS. How do I make asterisk start on boot? Thanks. |
| 17:02.58 | Arrowhead | ginipig: you can write a quick Perl script for it..... :) otherwise i dunno..... |
| 17:03.33 | abrotman | ginipig: egrep ^: |
| 17:03.37 | isensi | chealer just did , it hangs again |
| 17:03.48 | isensi | yep |
| 17:04.24 | outlaw84 | abrotman: there is this UI partitioning thing when you install with sarge net install disk... I looked in base-config but couldn't find it do you know where it is |
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| 17:04.32 | chealer | isensi: avoid manipulating /dev and /proc uselessly as root |
| 17:04.40 | abrotman | cfdisk maybe? |
| 17:04.44 | Arrowhead | anyone have any other suggestions for SSH to block connections from an IP after like 10 failed retries? |
| 17:04.56 | chealer | isensi: even if I wouldn't expect it to crash a machine |
| 17:05.02 | scarynetworkguy | And no I won't bloody well help you do it so don't even bother asking. |
| 17:05.10 | outlaw84 | abrotman: yea thanks that one will do |
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| 17:05.56 | bismarck | is there a rss editor to create rss feeds? |
| 17:06.06 | chealer | isensi: perhaps your machine just got 100% CPU usage or something that looks like a crash |
| 17:06.29 | scarynetworkguy | Arrowhead: http://www.openbsd.org and/or google. |
| 17:06.41 | Arrowhead | thx scary |
| 17:06.42 | orchid | Arrowhead: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187 |
| 17:06.49 | scarynetworkguy | !thx |
| 17:06.49 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 17:06.50 | isensi | chealer maybe but then it should respond to keypresses |
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| 17:07.04 | outlaw84 | 83 Linux or 85 Linux extended <-- which one is ext3? |
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| 17:07.26 | RogueDopple | ha ah |
| 17:07.33 | shay | outlaw84, set it as "Linux" and then run mkfs.ext3 on it |
| 17:07.42 | ginipig | abrotman: sorry? |
| 17:07.50 | abrotman | ? |
| 17:08.02 | chealer | isensi: perhaps not in a definite time. allow me to try grepping that file on this machine anyway :) |
| 17:08.04 | shay | he's talking about fdisc |
| 17:08.06 | shay | he's talking about fdisk |
| 17:08.24 | roler | is there a way to make apt-get or dpkg remove all unecessary libraries that the packages in my computer are not using? |
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| 17:08.46 | bismarck | is there a rss editor to create rss feeds on debian? |
| 17:09.00 | aFlag | what package is asoundlib.h in? |
| 17:09.06 | paulproteus|jhu | aFlag, Use apt-file to search. |
| 17:09.09 | abrotman | !tell aFlag about search |
| 17:09.11 | paulproteus|jhu | apt-file search asoundlib.h |
| 17:09.18 | chealer | isensi: it survived. does just grepping that specific file crash your machine? |
| 17:09.23 | paulproteus|jhu | Is there a way to put a Debian install ISO onto a hard drive rather than keep using up CD-Rs? |
| 17:09.30 | BlakeOPS | How do I make something start on boot in Debian? |
| 17:09.37 | drac | roler: apt-cache show deborphan |
| 17:09.38 | paulproteus|jhu | Or is some other hard-drive based install possible? |
| 17:09.51 | RogueDopple | BlakeOPS: rtm |
| 17:09.54 | paulproteus|jhu | BlakeOPS, create an init script for it |
| 17:09.59 | ginipig | abrotman: ah, i thought that ^: was a weird smiley |
| 17:09.59 | paulproteus|jhu | It's in the Debian User's Guide, BlakeOPS . |
| 17:10.02 | isensi | chealer if i run this command grep -nri "_SERVER" /* it just hangs |
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| 17:10.13 | roler | drac; thanks! |
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| 17:10.46 | isensi | chealer let me run a diskcheck just to see |
| 17:10.50 | abrotman | BlakeOPS: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 17:11.14 | BlakeOPS | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 17:11.36 | chealer | isensi: I'm not sure /proc/kcore is the problem. since you're root, I guess the problem could just be grep |
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| 17:12.19 | isensi | chealer it cleaned up some orphaned inodes |
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| 17:12.58 | manbox | how do i change the label of a partition? i have made an ext2 linux table but with fdisk -l is still has WIN95 FAT32 (system label).. how is this changed? with cfdisk or fdisk? mkfs just made the part.table.. |
| 17:13.06 | Arrowhead | looks like i've got a lot of research to do for the iptables concept that orchid gave me..... |
| 17:13.09 | Arrowhead | thanks all..... |
| 17:13.23 | outlaw84 | It seams that my normal users dont have access to my newly created partition what should I do ? |
| 17:13.35 | outlaw84 | write access that is |
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| 17:15.38 | outlaw84 | seams a chmod was needed |
| 17:15.40 | roler | thanks! |
| 17:16.32 | timo | manbox, start fdisk and change the partition's identifier (with 't') to 83 ('Linux') |
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| 17:20.20 | lunatech | i wanted to have a latex2pdf conversion script - it used to come in redhat. does debian has something like that ? |
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| 17:22.23 | timo | lunatech, pdflatex should do it |
| 17:22.39 | cn | how can i abilite telnetd? |
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| 17:22.56 | timo | lunatech, in the tetex-bin package |
| 17:23.29 | lunatech | checking timo |
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| 17:24.37 | beardy | cn: what does abilite mean? |
| 17:24.55 | lunatech | timo: thanks , it works :-) |
| 17:25.05 | timo | lunatech, you're welcome |
| 17:26.03 | Debird | in the 2.6 kernel isn't there a boot time option to use more than 1Gb of ram? |
| 17:26.21 | cn | beardy: start |
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| 17:27.01 | abrotman | Debird: 386 or something else ? |
| 17:27.10 | Debird | 386 |
| 17:27.25 | abrotman | nope .. but i think all the others do :) |
| 17:27.29 | abrotman | like -686 |
| 17:27.32 | manbox | timo, Thanks!! |
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| 17:28.14 | uzer | i have a process that wont die, ps aux lists its state as "D", ive tried various kill signals, any suggestions? |
| 17:28.53 | paulproteus|jhu | manbox, cfdisk - change partition type |
| 17:29.02 | beardy | cn: You are aware of that telnet is unsecure and should genereally not be used? Use ssh instead. /etc/init.d/telnetd start perhaps, I'm not sure.. |
| 17:29.11 | Debird | so I need to build a custom kernel I suppose? |
| 17:29.17 | subgv | Good Morning Everyone =) Just woke up and feeling happy =) nice weather |
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| 17:29.30 | timo | uzer, try killing it's parent process. if you can't, the only thing left to do is to reboot |
| 17:29.48 | abrotman | Debird: no .. what is your cpu ? |
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| 17:30.25 | Debird | i am running an amd athlon 64 but am running sarge with 2.6.8-2-386 kernel |
| 17:30.36 | CT-71 | is debian a good OS |
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| 17:30.56 | CT-71 | err |
| 17:31.02 | CT-71 | stop there does it have SElinux |
| 17:31.14 | Debird | debian is very good CT-71 |
| 17:31.20 | CT-71 | cool |
| 17:31.28 | paulproteus|jhu | telnet is normally launched from inetd |
| 17:31.29 | CT-71 | does it have SE im very very paranoid |
| 17:31.45 | CT-71 | and i want to be able to lock it down as tight as possible |
| 17:31.55 | abrotman | Debird: apt-cache search kernel-image k8 |
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| 17:32.16 | antgel_ | have a conexant (yes i know) adsl router. can usually get to webgui on port 80. not working now, but router still working generally. nmap shows port 80 as filtered. is it possible that the webserver crashed on the router? if not, what makes a port filtered as opposed to closed? |
| 17:32.20 | s_ward | CT-71: http://selinux.sourceforge.net/distros/debian.php3 |
| 17:32.32 | abrotman | Debird: see the one for you? |
| 17:32.36 | antgel_ | and more importantly, how can i kick it without going to the site? :/ |
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| 17:33.41 | vladster | I wonder if it is possible to link all the files a user saves to a network nfs share so as to protect the files in case the user screws up the workstaion so what ever bookmarks or files they have are saved to the nfs by default |
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| 17:33.49 | frehfreh | hi, which bootcd does support the DELL PERC raidcontroller out of the box? |
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| 17:34.10 | antgel_ | vladster: like mounting /home on nfs? |
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| 17:34.28 | beardy | vladster: Do a daily, or more frequent, backup of the users home directories? |
| 17:34.34 | vladster | Like that but the user prefs would be on the workstation |
| 17:34.42 | Debird | thanks abrotman |
| 17:34.49 | antgel_ | vladster: what user prefs? |
| 17:34.57 | CT-71 | s_ward is that a special debian distro or is that all of them just a regualar ISO |
| 17:35.08 | uzer | exit |
| 17:35.14 | vladster | Well the problem is the users home is not large enough to store all the files |
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| 17:35.40 | vladster | and with gbit eth, bandwidth is no an issue |
| 17:35.52 | s_ward | CT-71: SELinux didn't make it into Debian Sarge, IIRC the target is to get it incorporated into debian for the release of Etch |
| 17:36.04 | vladster | desktop setup and what have you |
| 17:36.36 | antgel_ | vladster: what is desktop setup? |
| 17:36.44 | CT-71 | o so thats a special ISO embedded with SE right |
| 17:36.51 | vladster | gnome details and settings |
| 17:37.07 | cn | beardy: yes i know thanks |
| 17:37.17 | abrotman | s_ward: gr did |
| 17:37.22 | vladster | so the user can log in and function if the server is doing a backup run |
| 17:37.24 | antgel_ | vladster: aren't they stored in /home? |
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| 17:38.20 | vladster | usually but I want to make a template that stores the users files and downloads on the NFS volumes so an audit can be more centralized |
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| 17:38.40 | mhall | I have a D-I ISO I'd like to add some config files, a list of packages, etc. from my current box onto. What must I do? |
| 17:38.51 | antgel_ | vladster: fail to see how mounting /home on nfs won't solve your problem |
| 17:39.01 | mhall | I think I need a linux ISO editor. |
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| 17:39.07 | mhall | Are there any decent ones in Debian? |
| 17:39.18 | vladster | What if the network home is not available? |
| 17:39.26 | antgel_ | mhall: mount the iso with -o loop |
| 17:39.39 | beardy | mhall: ISO editor? Just mount and do what you need. man mount |
| 17:39.39 | antgel_ | vladster: then something is broken :) |
| 17:39.41 | mhall | Another thing. I'm moving today. What should I do to protect my flat panel? |
| 17:39.59 | mhall | I was under the impression that loopback mounts of ISO files were read-only. |
| 17:40.26 | antgel_ | mhall: not afaik. have a go |
| 17:41.02 | beardy | mhall: Pack it well? In it's original box if you still got it. |
| 17:41.14 | mhall | mkdir: cannot create directory `etc': Read-only file system |
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| 17:41.31 | antgel_ | mhall: permissions |
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| 17:41.37 | vladster | I would need a fallback script so the user can still function |
| 17:41.51 | mhall | beardy: I'm going to put it on the seat in a pickup. Hoping to ditch the box because it's huge and I do not have a whole lot of space. |
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| 17:42.01 | mhall | antgel_: Read-only file system |
| 17:42.06 | mhall | antgel_: Not 'permission denied' |
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| 17:42.08 | antgel_ | vladster: as long as /home is mounted over ethernet, not rfc1149, you should be ok, unless your setup is dead flaky |
| 17:42.15 | mhall | antgel_: There's a difference, eh? |
| 17:42.23 | vladster | This is kind of important when the user is on a laptop and is not always near a server |
| 17:42.28 | xbmodder | does anyone here know how to setup a streaming video server |
| 17:42.29 | antgel_ | mhall: mount with rw, perhaps? |
| 17:42.30 | rutski89 | Is there a way for debian to clean un needed deps? |
| 17:42.39 | subgv | How to scan my Harddrive if there is any bad-sectors? |
| 17:42.40 | mhall | antgel_: I'll try. |
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| 17:43.02 | drc | rutski89: deps meaning? |
| 17:43.07 | beardy | mhall: Wrap it in something soft? Cloth, or what you can come up with. |
| 17:43.10 | mhall | antgel_: Even with rw. |
| 17:43.30 | CT-71 | is anyone here running a debian that was spawned off DSL |
| 17:43.30 | mhall | beardy: I've got a towel. I was thinking of that unless somebody thought it'd scratch. |
| 17:43.45 | mhall | beardy: but the factories themselves often use fairly scratchy stuff |
| 17:43.46 | rutski89 | drc: deps being files that program X needed to run; but now program X is un-installed; so they don't need to be there anymore |
| 17:43.52 | mhall | beardy: so I figure it can't be _too_ bad |
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| 17:44.27 | drc | rutski89: apt-get remove? |
| 17:44.44 | vladster | The only thing I can think up is a script on the local drive that automatically sync and uploads files to the server when the server becomes available |
| 17:44.53 | rutski89 | drc: there are too many to remeve by hadn |
| 17:44.54 | antgel_ | vladster: you can't have the penny and the bun. if they aren't near a server, get them to vpn in if they can. |
| 17:44.58 | drc | rutski89: or just aptitude, I know nothing but I think that's what you mean |
| 17:44.59 | vladster | maybe with a local login script |
| 17:45.09 | drc | rutski89: ahh, that's what you mean |
| 17:45.13 | antgel_ | vladster: clunky. very microsoft "offline files" but doable with rsync |
| 17:45.15 | rutski89 | drc: heh; i've never used aptitude |
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| 17:45.27 | drc | rutski89: you got woody? |
| 17:45.36 | vladster | Thats true |
| 17:45.39 | s_ward | abrotman: I see it did. I keep meaning to experiment with one of them.. I might do while playing with Xen :) |
| 17:45.45 | rutski89 | drc: sarge... |
| 17:45.55 | drc | rutski89: well then run aptitude, it's really easy. |
| 17:45.58 | rutski89 | drc: you know that sarge is stable now right |
| 17:46.06 | rutski89 | drc: sure, ill try |
| 17:46.11 | antgel_ | mhall: mount it, copy it somewhere, make changes, mkisofs |
| 17:46.15 | deadcat | oh shit. quake3 source code releasing? that means q3 for ppc linux? HHAHAHAH |
| 17:46.36 | fabsoft | hi |
| 17:46.38 | drc | deadcat: ppc means? :) |
| 17:46.41 | antgel_ | mhall: and unknown |
| 17:46.46 | drc | power pc? |
| 17:46.48 | antgel_ | ignore ^ |
| 17:46.59 | fabsoft | how i can chang the locale setup ? |
| 17:47.00 | antgel_ | mhall: http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianCustomCD may be useful |
| 17:47.14 | deadcat | drc: ya |
| 17:47.21 | vladster | I think I need to work on a local login script that checks all scenarios default, if server is availabe, second vpn , third local if no network is availabe but sync when network becomes available |
| 17:47.22 | abrotman | s_ward: good place for it :) |
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| 17:47.35 | deadcat | fabsoft: export your LANG to ssomething |
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| 17:47.59 | eonbleuz | what does it mean when something tells me to add the script to the default runlevel |
| 17:47.59 | fabsoft | ok, but the default init script where resides ? |
| 17:48.06 | vladster | This way the sales force can work in all situations and still be productive |
| 17:48.12 | drc | deadcat: isn't ppc used in apples? |
| 17:48.17 | chkbsd | how to show all installed packages? |
| 17:48.17 | antgel_ | vladster: sounds like a pain. are the users really worth it? |
| 17:48.36 | beardy | fabsoft: dpkg-reconfigure locales, then export LANG, and/or some LC_ things to the locale you want. |
| 17:48.44 | vladster | money always eases the pain |
| 17:48.46 | deadcat | drc: ya. but linux runs on ppc as well. |
| 17:48.47 | AeroSpace | For unstable: 'apt-get install libarts1-dev' says "libarts1-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt-dev but it is not going to be installed", I do 'apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev' and it says it is already the newest version. What gives? Is apt-get's database corrupt? |
| 17:49.14 | obscuresoul | /lost+found only stores corrupt files, right? and if i'm writing data in a file, and in that moment the pc crashs...that file that was being written by me isn't recovered right? |
| 17:49.23 | vladster | Hell if it works well I might release it as a deb |
| 17:49.34 | drc | deadcat: yup. but isn't the latest apple os very good and based on freebsd? |
| 17:49.42 | vladster | do it with a perl script |
| 17:49.45 | AeroSpace | chkbsd: dpkg --get-selections |
| 17:49.54 | deadcat | drc: ya. but i dont use bsd (= |
| 17:50.10 | antgel_ | vladster: shell script should do ya |
| 17:50.11 | beardy | obscuresoul: Probably not. emacs can, ins ome cases recover files you were working on, possibly other programs too, but it's not a general thing. |
| 17:50.20 | CT-71 | is anyone running debian off the DSL key??? |
| 17:50.21 | fabsoft | ok tanks beardy |
| 17:50.24 | CT-71 | the cut down ver |
| 17:50.24 | vladster | I will still publish it |
| 17:50.53 | vladster | I have to give something back |
| 17:51.17 | chkbsd | i get all the time skb: and some network settings shit in my screen |
| 17:51.23 | chkbsd | there is no dhcp installed |
| 17:52.04 | chkbsd | bad skb: PRE_ROUTING ............. dev=eth0 and things like this |
| 17:52.31 | sophie_ | Does anybody know how to setup a wlan card with prism2 chipset to use WPA encryption ? |
| 17:53.09 | antgel_ | !tell sophie_ about ask |
| 17:53.32 | antgel_ | sophie_: google? |
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| 17:53.52 | sophie_ | antgel, : I havent found any hint there |
| 17:54.16 | antgel_ | sophie_: then probably not |
| 17:54.35 | the1ts | sophie_: try looking at wpasupplicant |
| 17:54.48 | shdl-2 | hi, is it possible to create .Z files (LZW algo) with gzip (gunzip can extract this files)? |
| 17:56.34 | sophie_ | I have bought a prism2 bases usb wlan stick. I have managed it (with help of module-assistant) to work with linux-wlan-ng modules using sarge. Does anybody know how to setup WPA with such device ? |
| 17:56.36 | obscuresoul | beardy yes, but the lost+found only contains corrupt files? |
| 17:57.17 | vladster | what is the command to configure alsa |
| 17:57.31 | deadcat | vladster: alsa<tab> |
| 17:58.26 | vladster | nothing happens |
| 17:58.42 | deadcat | vladster: then install the alsa-utils package |
| 17:59.04 | faked_ | Vladi: alsa<tab> as root |
| 17:59.17 | Gooser | deadcat did they release q3 code or they just planing to? |
| 17:59.19 | vladster | it is in but no response |
| 17:59.26 | xbmodder | does ff* have compatibility with v4l? |
| 17:59.36 | deadcat | Gooser: planning to. |
| 17:59.37 | xbmodder | Gooser, not yet |
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| 17:59.46 | Gooser | ok cool... |
| 18:00.07 | faked_ | vladster: alsabase installed? |
| 18:00.17 | deadcat | Gooser: i got raped playing UT2004 at Linux world expo on thur since it was the first time i play that game. if it was q3, i might have a chance... )= |
| 18:00.36 | vladster | not sure |
| 18:01.00 | faked_ | vladster: apt-cache policy alsa-base |
| 18:01.03 | deadcat | xbmodder: did you play UT2004 at the sun booth? |
| 18:01.16 | xbmodder | I couldn't the mother fuckin' idiot was like "18 or older" |
| 18:01.19 | deadcat | xbmodder: i was teh guy playing and screaming "die bitches die!!" |
| 18:01.27 | deadcat | damn |
| 18:01.43 | the1ts | sophie_: This may be helpful http://wiki.debian.net/?DebConf5WirelessHowto |
| 18:01.43 | vladster | Installed: 1.0.8-7 |
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| 18:02.06 | faked_ | vladster: apt-cache policy alsa-utils |
| 18:02.28 | vladster | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:02.36 | deadcat | xbmodder: if you going to the picnic tomorrow and see me there. come over and say hi or something |
| 18:02.44 | pastyhermit | I messed up my sources.lst anyone have an example of one for sid? |
| 18:02.49 | xbmodder | will do :) |
| 18:02.53 | faked_ | Vladi: ls -l /usr/sbin/ |grep alsaco |
| 18:03.01 | deadcat | pastyhermit: sshonly.sytes.net/config/etc/apt/ |
| 18:03.05 | drc | so deadcat, a question. Are apples better than PC:s? :) |
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| 18:03.16 | pastyhermit | I really enjoy the fact that debian by default installed gnome |
| 18:03.26 | pastyhermit | I tried KDE but the version is too old, how do I get rid of it? |
| 18:03.29 | deadcat | drc: ppc? yes. but x86 has more support (= |
| 18:03.31 | vladster | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31569 2005-03-04 04:37 alsaconf |
| 18:03.37 | pastyhermit | deadcat, thanx |
| 18:03.49 | vladster | boom |
| 18:03.50 | concept10 | do you guys prefer apache 2 or 1.3 |
| 18:03.54 | faked_ | Vladi: ahh, I think your tab-completion does not work correctly |
| 18:03.58 | deadcat | concept10: 1.3 |
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| 18:04.06 | concept10 | deadcat, any reason? |
| 18:04.11 | vladster | that might need a fix |
| 18:04.21 | faked_ | vladster: alsa<tab> should show you alsaconf |
| 18:04.40 | faked_ | vladster: alsa<tab><tab> should |
| 18:04.45 | deadcat | concept10: used to 1.3 and libapache-gallery-perl is broken in 2 (= |
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| 18:06.07 | concept10 | deadcat, I have apache2 installed and running, how do I completely remove it so I may jump on 1.3 apt-get remove and purge or aptitude? |
| 18:06.16 | fabsoft | know anyone why in my "mini" repository there are files downloaded in Internet containig "%" and these ones dont are downloadable from my apache2 ? |
| 18:06.30 | deadcat | concept10: you have to remove --purge with apt-get then install 1.3 again |
| 18:06.36 | vladster | xmms is still grumbling about it |
| 18:06.43 | crazzy_gnoom | при попытке наÑтройки X-Ñервера в Debian_sarge командой dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, должного Ñффекта ненаÑтупает..., а в чаÑноÑти файлик /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Ñодержимого Ñвоего неменÑет..., ну и как ÑледÑтвие монитор работает Ñ Ñ‡Ð°Ñтотой Ð¾Ð±Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ 75Гц, Ñ…Ð¾Ñ‚Ñ Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÑ‚ и 85 держать |
| 18:06.43 | crazzy_gnoom | при разрешении 1152x864. Видеокарта Nvidia Ti 4200 драйвера уÑтанавливал из пакетов nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7667+1 nvidia-glx 1.0.7667-3 nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7667-3. |
| 18:06.43 | crazzy_gnoom | короче SOS...... |
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| 18:07.25 | concept10 | what is that jibberish |
| 18:07.32 | fabsoft | i have a repository ubuntu* |
| 18:07.49 | deadcat | fabsoft: #ubuntu |
| 18:07.54 | fabsoft | but this files cannot be resolved from my LAN |
| 18:08.05 | fabsoft | is the same things |
| 18:08.17 | pngwn | fabsoft, no it isn't |
| 18:08.43 | fabsoft | also in debian a had the same issue |
| 18:08.53 | fabsoft | also in debian i had the same issue |
| 18:09.02 | deadcat | fabsoft: ya. but you talking about a ubuntu repo. so #ubuntu |
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| 18:09.27 | fabsoft | ok then a have a repository debian :) |
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| 18:09.53 | pastyhermit | deadcat, is there a meta package I can remove that will take all of KDE away? |
| 18:10.31 | aidehua | Who is better: AC/DC or Led Zeppelin? |
| 18:10.46 | faked_ | aidehua: metallica ;) |
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| 18:11.03 | deadcat | pastyhermit: no. you might have to use debfoster |
| 18:11.18 | pastyhermit | debfoster eh hrm... I will google that |
| 18:11.30 | aidehua | faked_: out of the remit of the question, but your sentiment is fine :) |
| 18:11.32 | drac | !tell pastyhermit about remove kde |
| 18:12.03 | pastyhermit | drac, that wont get rid of all the stale dependancies though will it? |
| 18:12.31 | drac | pastyhermit: like 90% of KDE gets wiped with that. |
| 18:12.31 | lindenle | !faq remove kde |
| 18:12.32 | dpkg | remove kde: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 18:12.39 | pastyhermit | drac, sweet thanx |
| 18:13.23 | deadcat | pastyhermit: you apt-get it |
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| 18:15.23 | deadcat | lindenle: use debfoster and go through the list.. or !remove kde? |
| 18:15.32 | pastyhermit | drac, the command chucked it |
| 18:15.35 | lindenle | !remove kde |
| 18:15.36 | dpkg | from memory, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 18:15.40 | pastyhermit | too many dependancies and crap |
| 18:15.41 | lindenle | oh ok thx |
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| 18:16.19 | deadcat | try aptitude --purge kdelibs3 kdelibs4 or some options which allows you to remove the dep. as well |
| 18:16.26 | deadcat | never used aptitude so dont know |
| 18:16.38 | drac | ehh, since when apt-get remove doesn't remove dependencies too ? |
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| 18:17.57 | KomiaPoika | why remove kde? |
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| 18:18.06 | wannabe | why not? :P |
| 18:18.09 | pastyhermit | deadcat, cool looks like aptititude is doing it |
| 18:18.20 | wannabe | I find it too much clutter on the desktop |
| 18:18.23 | pastyhermit | 354 packages being removed |
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| 18:18.54 | wannabe | even some of the kde lib dependant packages are nice |
| 18:19.03 | secher | HEyas all.. I'm trying to get Wine on here. I'm creating a partition, but I have a choice between 2 FAT32 partition types and 2 NTFS partition types. I have both Win98 and Win2k, however I'm not sure which is preferrable, FAT32 or NTFS ( and which of 4 possbilities ) and 98 or 2k. SSuggestions? |
| 18:19.05 | pastyhermit | aptitude purge kdelibs3 kdelibs4 |
| 18:19.10 | wannabe | *even though some |
| 18:19.16 | deadcat | pastyhermit: nice. no special options? |
| 18:19.25 | KomiaPoika | kde is elite |
| 18:19.33 | deadcat | KomiaPoika: (= |
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| 18:19.48 | wannabe | I'd call it more bloat than elite :P |
| 18:19.51 | pastyhermit | deadcat, no, I think purge took care of the dependancies |
| 18:20.04 | pastyhermit | I didnt find any ... options so it must do it automatically |
| 18:20.09 | deadcat | pastyhermit: cool. thanks for confirming for me hehe |
| 18:20.29 | sinnus_dtr | Hello to all. Where i can get gaim 1.5 for Debian Sarge. Thanx... |
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| 18:21.44 | kmap | how do I get the bitstream vera mono font on xterm (or konsole, for that matter)? |
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| 18:21.59 | pastyhermit | deadcat, only problem is now I have errors with the packages for exim4-base exim4-daemon and libpam0g |
| 18:22.07 | kmap | try as i may, konsole shows the sample, but doesn't display it in the konsole |
| 18:22.10 | eigenlambda | [daesotho@Pavel:~ -_-]$ strace xpdf 2>&1 | grep Xdefaults |
| 18:22.10 | eigenlambda | open("/home/daesotho/.Xdefaults-Pavel", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 18:22.10 | eigenlambda | stat64("/home/daesotho/.Xdefaults", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=922, ...}) = 0 |
| 18:22.10 | pastyhermit | I guess I need libpam but I dont want any MTAs on my workstation... |
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| 18:22.37 | deadcat | pastyhermit: let me go then apt-get install -f should fix it |
| 18:22.39 | eigenlambda | four lines is a flood? |
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| 18:22.54 | deadcat | eigenlambda: did you get kicked? |
| 18:23.00 | eigenlambda | note that xpdf doesn't check .Xdefaults |
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| 18:23.02 | eigenlambda | yea |
| 18:23.08 | deadcat | eigenlambda: then yes |
| 18:23.10 | wannabe | yep by debhelper |
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| 18:23.17 | secher | I'll narrow the possibilities then. for formatting a partition for Wine, should I use FAT32 or FAT32 LBA ( i.e. what is the difference?) |
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| 18:24.11 | Fabsmad | On my debian "stable" I've installed GAIM 1.2.1. I've downloaded the 1.5 in a tarball file. How can I upgrade from 1.2.1 to 1.5? |
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| 18:24.35 | Shadowcat | Fabsmad: why do you need 1.5? |
| 18:24.37 | deadcat | Fabsmad: why not get the gaim from testing or unstable? if that work use it. |
| 18:25.09 | deadcat | Fabsmad: nevermind sid only has 1.4 |
| 18:25.26 | drac | I'm using 1.5 at the moment, and I don't even see difference between this and 1.2* |
| 18:25.30 | deadcat | Fabsmad: to upgrade you untar the tarball and follow the instruction |
| 18:25.50 | Shadowcat | deadcat: that would be done outside the package system though |
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| 18:26.19 | deadcat | Shadowcat: he wants to upgrade. |
| 18:27.12 | chealer | !info gaim |
| 18:27.14 | dpkg | gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 2028 kB |
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| 18:29.47 | Lafy_ | how do debian services work? do the files in /etc/rc2.d all automatically get run or do i have to specify somewhere to run certain files? |
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| 18:31.36 | chealer | Lafy_: try /etc/init.d/README |
| 18:31.47 | Lafy_ | ok thanks |
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| 18:33.40 | phillipsjk | my possibly flaky soundcard does not appear to be generating interrupts, resulting in laggy sound in some programs. |
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| 18:34.05 | cbr | now sid just needs a gcc4 compiled kde3.4 and then life will be beautiful again |
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| 18:34.06 | cbr | :p |
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| 18:34.55 | Fuwex | What was the command to purge an installed package again? |
| 18:35.03 | chealer | cbr: definitely, I don't see what issues could be left after that. everybody wants it! |
| 18:35.07 | Fuwex | dpkg purge |
| 18:35.08 | dpkg | [purge] to complete wipe away a package, including its config files. Use apt-get remove --purge [package] |
| 18:35.13 | Fuwex | ah, okay |
| 18:35.18 | Fuwex | thanks dpkg ;p |
| 18:35.35 | chealer | !tell Fuwex about msg the bot |
| 18:35.56 | Fuwex | what?! Is that a threat dpkg? |
| 18:36.11 | Supaplex | !lart Fuwex |
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| 18:36.25 | Fuwex | :( |
| 18:36.48 | chealer | hehe, dpkg is the master of purge |
| 18:37.00 | leira | an ftp site, i can ls it with `ftp', but cannot with lftp. lftp freezed at "`.' Getting directory contents (0) [Making data connection...]" |
| 18:37.12 | leira | i thought it may be the passive problem, but ftp can ls in passive mode |
| 18:37.39 | Fuwex | if I want to reset all the configs and everything of my MySQL server, do I just do apt-get remove --purge mysql-server and then re-install ? |
| 18:37.45 | leira | i under an NAT, so it seems i cannot use port mde~ |
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| 18:39.21 | asuffield | leira: set ftp:passive-mode on |
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| 18:39.40 | phillipsjk | Anybody know how to set a second soundcard as deafualt, such as the sb emulation section of a buggy card? |
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| 18:40.53 | asuffield | philips: what do you mean by 'default'? |
| 18:40.58 | Benix | hi |
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| 18:41.14 | asuffield | missed, s/philips/phillipsjk/ |
| 18:41.18 | asuffield | damn you both |
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| 18:41.25 | drac | phillipsjk: udev (or obsolete devfs) |
| 18:41.28 | leira | asuffield: it is on by default |
| 18:41.53 | asuffield | leira: then something funny is going on, time to break out ethereal |
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| 18:42.28 | phillipsjk | asuffied: I want to you the "real" driver for mixing and sb driver for playing sound. |
| 18:42.33 | leira | asuffield: i've try tcpdump, but nothing useful seen~ |
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| 18:43.11 | asuffield | phillipsjk: /dev/dsp is a symlink. move it. |
| 18:43.23 | phillipsjk | thanks. |
| 18:43.37 | asuffield | as is /dev/mixer, but presumably that's already right |
| 18:44.17 | Benix | configure: error: *** Can't find the openal library. Try: http://www.openal.org/ |
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| 18:44.35 | Benix | strange, I did apt-get install libopenal* but it does not help |
| 18:44.57 | drac | Benix: You need -dev package(s) for compiling stuff. |
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| 18:45.16 | Benix | drac: thx, I know, bit I have all libopenal-dev* |
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| 18:45.30 | asuffield | then the configure script is busted |
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| 18:45.55 | Benix | asuffield: maybe, I am trying to compile scorched |
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| 18:46.29 | CyzarX | hello all, how do i check my swap space and how do i increase the swap space if possilbe? |
| 18:46.36 | Benix | asuffield: Or there are libs from openal which are not called libopenal |
| 18:46.45 | deadcat | CyzarX: mount |
| 18:46.49 | asuffield | CyzarX: free |
| 18:47.00 | deadcat | CyzarX: what the fuck you installed the machine and you dnot even know? |
| 18:47.08 | asuffield | and in the other order to the above |
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| 18:47.33 | CyzarX | LoL |
| 18:47.35 | CyzarX | thanks |
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| 18:49.33 | Benix | Toll, da läd man sich halb tot um nochmal an gute 3D Spiele für linux zu kommen, dann installiert man mühsam zig dev-Pakete und man kann es immernoch nicht kompilieren |
| 18:49.48 | madclicker | ahoy, I need to change Home.htm home.htm on number of files in a directory and subdirectories, is there a "fot in do done" script for this task? |
| 18:50.16 | phillipsjk | wieard. neither /dev/mixer or /dev/dsp appear to be symlinks :/ was this chenged recently, or is my (woody) system just messed up? |
| 18:50.16 | w00ter | Benix: it's all because you're german :) |
| 18:50.24 | Benix | w00ter: thanks |
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| 18:50.59 | Benix | w00ter: To witch country shall i change? ;) |
| 18:51.05 | tabris|away | madclicker: how about find -name 'Home.htm' -print0 |xargs -0 rename "s/Home\.htm/home\.htm/" |
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| 18:51.34 | w00ter | Dunno, try one that doesn't complain about things not working but adding solutions :) |
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| 18:51.50 | w00ter | Or: I'd like to help out but it's hard without info. |
| 18:51.56 | Benix | w00ter: hmm |
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| 18:52.09 | deadcat | tabris|away: find needs a dir dont it? |
| 18:52.28 | w00ter | find uses a weird syntax |
| 18:52.31 | Benix | w00ter: Ok, i want to compile scorched, a 3D game. it needs some dev-packages, but i installed all available in sid for openal... |
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| 18:52.44 | madclicker | tabris|away: i dont want to rename the files i would like to make changes inside the files that contain "Home.htm" to "home.htm" |
| 18:52.45 | tabris|away | deadcat: uhhh. if you don't spec one, it assumes current |
| 18:53.00 | w00ter | deadcat: find diryousearch -name fileyousearch |
| 18:53.04 | Benix | w00ter: but the ./configure still says that some openal-libs are missing |
| 18:53.05 | deadcat | ah. new? |
| 18:53.35 | leira | asuffield: etherealed, problem solved, set ftp:ssl-allow no. thank u for the hints |
| 18:53.43 | deadcat | w00ter: i've used find for years. just that was taught that find /dir -iname blah -type ... |
| 18:53.45 | w00ter | benix: since you did install the libs maybe you can open the configure file and have a looksee where it looks for them |
| 18:54.04 | w00ter | deadcat: didn't mean to talk down to you |
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| 18:54.21 | deadcat | w00ter: no big deal |
| 18:54.35 | Benix | w00ter: hm, let's see |
| 18:54.39 | w00ter | I've found find (pun intended) always a tad weird |
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| 18:54.45 | deadcat | w00ter: its just i learn all the commands unix style (= |
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| 18:55.25 | w00ter | Ah, I have no unix experience whatsoever. |
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| 18:56.02 | vinay | ~/part |
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| 18:57.02 | lotsacache | hello |
| 18:57.03 | x-Al1gma | hello lotsacache |
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| 18:57.32 | lotsacache | Can someone help me with configuring my display adapter? |
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| 18:59.12 | bucky | lotsacache, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:59.21 | TiTaN_pi8 | hello, can anybody tell me why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 does not write to /etc/X11/XF86config-4 even after I have matched the config file's Md5dsum to /var/lib/X11/XF86config.md5sum? |
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| 18:59.22 | mrgenixus | cany anyone access the media files on yliapu.org? |
| 18:59.34 | lotsacache | No. Let me try |
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| 19:00.19 | XseeFee | hello everyone |
| 19:00.24 | TiTaN_pi8 | hi |
| 19:00.25 | euphor][a | hola |
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| 19:00.40 | euphor][a | can i install packages from unstable/testing? |
| 19:00.48 | XseeFee | can anyone spare sometime helping me install something? |
| 19:00.55 | mrgenixus | XseeFee: like what? |
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| 19:01.34 | XseeFee | well i am trying to install synaptic and i am doing it the way i think i should be done and well its obviously is not doin it lol |
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| 19:01.53 | euphor][a | how can i insall gnome-art? |
| 19:02.03 | mrgenixus | XseeFee: apt-get install synaptic? |
| 19:02.05 | jebba | XseeFee, apt-get update && apt-get install synaptic |
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| 19:02.12 | XseeFee | i need to build it from source |
| 19:02.17 | jebba | XseeFee, why? |
| 19:02.24 | mrgenixus | XseeFee: yeah, why? |
| 19:02.40 | XseeFee | i tried apt-get and i guess my respitories are too old on this distro for it and apparently it doesn't have gedit |
| 19:02.45 | abrotman | XseeFee: the mouse thing or the pkg manager? |
| 19:02.58 | mrgenixus | does anyone have vlc-mozilla-plugin configured to that it works? |
| 19:03.08 | mrgenixus | I can never get it to work |
| 19:03.10 | XseeFee | the pkg manager |
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| 19:03.38 | lotsacache | Thanks Bucky. That's what I was looking for. |
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| 19:03.49 | omniv | hi folks |
| 19:03.49 | bucky | XseeFee, what does cat /etc/debian_version say? |
| 19:04.12 | dimir | Evening! |
| 19:04.20 | euphor][a | can i install a package from unstable on stable? |
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| 19:04.49 | omniv | is there a way to get a list of every package installed on a system (bonus points if it is on a format i can use to then apt-get install on another system) |
| 19:05.02 | Benix | w00ter: I looked for the configfile using dpkg -S openal .. nothing |
| 19:05.15 | XseeFee | its actually knoppix |
| 19:05.29 | bucky | XseeFee, try asking in #knoppix |
| 19:05.38 | Benix | XseeFee: or #kanotix |
| 19:05.39 | XseeFee | k |
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| 19:05.47 | paulproteus|jhu | euphor][a, Probably. If you can't, you'll have to backport it. |
| 19:05.48 | euphor][a | anyone? |
| 19:05.53 | w00ter | benix moment please, i am helping others at the moment |
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| 19:05.56 | madclicker | when i do "chmod -R 644" it makes all directories also 644 how can I prevent this or restore directories and subdirectories to 755 ? |
| 19:06.13 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, how can i select packages from the unstable tree? just add the repository? |
| 19:06.19 | vladster | alright, alsa is setup but the sound is not working |
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| 19:06.53 | madclicker | can someone help a brother? |
| 19:07.01 | AeroSpace | madclicker: `find -type f -exec chmod 644` |
| 19:07.18 | AeroSpace | madclicker: `find -type d -exec chmod 755` |
| 19:07.24 | Benix | w00ter: ok |
| 19:07.30 | bismarck | is there a rss editor to create rss feeds on debian? |
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| 19:07.34 | AeroSpace | madclicker: `find -type f -exec chmod 644 \{\}\;` |
| 19:07.54 | AeroSpace | madclicker: sorry forgot to specify the file \{\}\; the first times |
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| 19:08.03 | paulproteus|jhu | euphor][a, Here's what I do: |
| 19:08.11 | paulproteus|jhu | Step 1. Add the unstable repository, but only the deb-src line. |
| 19:08.18 | paulproteus|jhu | Step 2: apt-get build-dep {packagename} |
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| 19:08.23 | vladster | etails: Error writing file 'file:///home/vladster/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers/greasy-004c124ae7.desktop': Access denied I get this error when I try and access my desktop prefs |
| 19:08.24 | paulproteus|jhu | Step 3: apt-get -b source {packagename} |
| 19:08.31 | paulproteus|jhu | Step 4: Install resulting locally-compiled package. |
| 19:08.40 | paulproteus|jhu | That ensures you don't get dependencies from unstable. |
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| 19:09.06 | paulproteus|jhu | The other option you have is "apt pinning", but I don't do that. |
| 19:09.12 | paulproteus|jhu | I've heard that's fairly easy. |
| 19:09.14 | TheStick | somebody asked how to restore same file apt package list on another system? |
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| 19:09.19 | TheStick | synaptic can do that |
| 19:09.20 | dondelelcaro | paulproteus|jhu: unfortunatly, that woun't ensure that you don't get dependencies from unstable. |
| 19:09.35 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, thanks, will try it now |
| 19:09.41 | madclicker | AeroSpace: thanks |
| 19:09.54 | paulproteus|jhu | dondelelcaro, it prevents installing binary packages from unstable. |
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| 19:10.03 | AeroSpace | madclicker: no problem. |
| 19:10.07 | AeroSpace | For unstable: 'apt-get install libarts1-dev' says "libarts1-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt-dev but it is not going to be installed", I do 'apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev' and it says it is already the newest version. What gives? Is apt-get's database corrupt? |
| 19:10.07 | paulproteus|jhu | dondelelcaro, what do you mean? |
| 19:10.18 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, what file holds the repos? |
| 19:10.23 | paulproteus|jhu | euphor][a, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:10.26 | dondelelcaro | paulproteus|jhu: no, it doesn't prevent the dependency on binary packages, since only some of the dependencies are generated (shlibdeps FE) at buildtime. |
| 19:10.29 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, ty |
| 19:10.48 | paulproteus|jhu | dondelelcaro, With the method I described, it's impossible to install unstable's binary packages. |
| 19:10.55 | paulproteus|jhu | Now, granted, it's a bit restrictive, so it could fail. |
| 19:11.02 | dondelelcaro | paulproteus|jhu: there are a large number of packages that have versioned dependencies on packages that cannot be satisfied (or quickly will not be satisfiable) in stable. |
| 19:11.08 | paulproteus|jhu | If, e.g., the package depends on packages only in unstable. |
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| 19:11.30 | paulproteus|jhu | But it does do what I said - ensure you don't install unstable's binary packages to meet dependencies of the package you wanted. |
| 19:11.33 | dondelelcaro | paulproteus|jhu: I'm talking about the utility of the resultant deb, not the packages installed. |
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| 19:12.03 | madclicker | AeroSpace: "find: missing argument to `-exec'" |
| 19:12.05 | Thanatermesis | its posible to build a complete system in amd64 or ppc from my x86 machine in debootstrap ? |
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| 19:12.45 | DarkSith | hi i just installed sarge. looks great, but how can i install kde 3.4? |
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| 19:13.45 | TheStick | DarkSith: add the kde 3.4 repository to your sources.list |
| 19:13.47 | s_ward | DarkSith: /topic |
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| 19:13.56 | AeroSpace | madclicker: I guess I should try things before I post them, put a space between the \{\} and \; |
| 19:14.09 | DarkSith | TheStick: how and where do i do that? |
| 19:14.19 | paulproteus|jhu | dondelelcaro, I guess that's not something that can be automated, right? |
| 19:14.26 | xbmodder | when using ezstream i get this error: Unknown format THEORA, passing right on through! |
| 19:14.29 | xbmodder | any ideas? |
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| 19:14.45 | s_ward | DarkSith: See the /topic ! /msg dpkg kde3.4 - that will tell you where to find that out |
| 19:14.54 | groogs | i'm trying to do nightly backups from system A to system B (via rsync).. the drive on system B is an external usb drive. what's the best way to do this -- running rsync on A, or B? how do I handle if the drive is disconnected? |
| 19:16.29 | madclicker | AeroSpace: thanks again |
| 19:17.06 | vladster | is there someway to see if my sound card is correctly configured |
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| 19:17.30 | mrgenixus | can someone help me troubleshoot mozilla-plugin-vlc? id doen't work? is there an alternative progam, plugin I can use? |
| 19:17.35 | AeroSpace | vladster: alsamixer or try looking at /proc/asound |
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| 19:18.14 | retro | hi all |
| 19:18.31 | phillipsjk | vladster: try runnig a program that generates sound (like galga)? |
| 19:18.40 | retro | I am new to linux and I was wondering, if there is another program like KYLIX ??? |
| 19:18.52 | paulproteus|jhu | retro, I think Kylix is available for Linux. |
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| 19:18.59 | paulproteus|jhu | Borland makes that, right? |
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| 19:19.09 | retro | yeas, but is there another like it |
| 19:19.37 | retro | something like Visual C++ |
| 19:20.01 | TheStick | retro: uh...vim? :P |
| 19:20.03 | woddf2 | Why isn't it letting me change the screen resolution to something higher than 800*600? |
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| 19:20.07 | TheStick | or emacs... |
| 19:20.08 | retro | :) |
| 19:20.15 | retro | something VISUAL :) |
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| 19:20.43 | s_ward | retro: ick, none of this "Visual" stuff :) ..but there are KDevelop and Anjuta |
| 19:20.49 | paulproteus|jhu | woddf2, you probably only have that resolution listed in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 19:20.54 | vladster | card0 cards devices hwdep Live modules oss pcm seq timers version |
| 19:21.04 | retro | yeah I am using anjuta for my algorithms competitions |
| 19:21.20 | vladster | locate alsamixert |
| 19:21.22 | retro | but I want a Visual environment to develop.... |
| 19:21.32 | s_ward | retro: personally, I have used glade for creating GUIs, and vim for editing source |
| 19:21.35 | phillipsjk | woddf2: are you using only a 2mb card? Linux (x) doesn't seem to automatically reduce the bit-depth. |
| 19:21.37 | dondelelcaro | retro: you're better off learning the GNU toolchain and using that instead. |
| 19:22.30 | retro | ok |
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| 19:22.49 | retro | and I see that Kylix is not alive |
| 19:22.57 | calaniz | anyone here ever used httptunnel? hts or htc? |
| 19:23.07 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, You bet. |
| 19:23.11 | paulproteus|jhu | hts and htc |
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| 19:23.19 | paulproteus|jhu | Linux hts server, windows htc client. |
| 19:23.28 | calaniz | paulproteus|jhu . I've apt-get install httptunnel |
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| 19:23.40 | calaniz | and i've got both the executibles in my path. |
| 19:23.51 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, Okay, so what do you want to do with them? :) |
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| 19:24.09 | paulproteus|jhu | htc requires a cooperating hts server somewhere beyond the web proxy, if you're trying to traverse a proxy. |
| 19:24.13 | crazzy_gnoom | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.15 | calaniz | i want to open up a forward to ssh |
| 19:24.22 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, that's really vague. |
| 19:24.28 | calaniz | hts -F localhost:2222 22 |
| 19:24.30 | marcot | Hello, does anyone had a problem with Sundance Technology Ethernet Cards? |
| 19:24.32 | bucky | retro, there's glade-2 if you're using gnome2 |
| 19:24.38 | marcot | I couldn't configure one of these. |
| 19:24.47 | marcot | In windows it was recognized as IC Plus. |
| 19:24.49 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, Okay. So now on the remote machine, you want to run htc, right? |
| 19:24.51 | marcot | Ip100 |
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| 19:24.56 | calaniz | yeah. |
| 19:25.02 | paulproteus|jhu | So, do that. :) |
| 19:25.06 | calaniz | paulproteus|jhu |
| 19:25.12 | marcot | I loaded the sundance module, but ifconfig eth0 didn't work. |
| 19:25.13 | woddf2 | Thanks |
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| 19:25.27 | TiTaN_pi8 | could someone tell me what the command is to write everything that is displayed in the console to a file again? |
| 19:25.29 | calaniz | paulproteus|jhu , ive run hts from a local account on the machine that htc will connect to. |
| 19:25.34 | calaniz | how do i tell if its running? |
| 19:25.37 | phillipsjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.42 | paulproteus|jhu | telnet localhost 2222 |
| 19:25.43 | calaniz | i cant seem to see it on the process list. |
| 19:25.47 | retro | bucky I know that glade is only for making the gui ??? |
| 19:25.48 | phillipsjk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.01 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, I think hts needs a "daemonize" argument or something. |
| 19:26.13 | TiTaN_pi8 | phillipsjk, no that is not what i mean, there is a command like 'logx' or something |
| 19:26.15 | bucky | retro, it's visual |
| 19:26.25 | calaniz | i thought that was the default |
| 19:26.36 | calaniz | -w = no daemon |
| 19:26.56 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, Ah, perhaps that's right. |
| 19:26.59 | retro | bucky oki, it's something like QT-designer I think, but not what I am looking for |
| 19:27.02 | paulproteus|jhu | You say it's not in 'ps ax'? |
| 19:27.31 | s_ward | retro: What, exactly, are you looking for? It's not Anjuta, it's not Glade, ... |
| 19:27.40 | calaniz | yup |
| 19:27.42 | calaniz | its not. |
| 19:27.44 | vladster | I have the mixer up and it looks like it is there but I still have nothing |
| 19:27.48 | calaniz | i dont know why it doesnt run. |
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| 19:28.00 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, I think you have the ports backwards. |
| 19:28.05 | calaniz | doesnt even pritn out a message |
| 19:28.11 | retro | s_ward Something like Visual C++, where the GUI and the code are all in ONE :) |
| 19:28.14 | paulproteus|jhu | I just read http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel/faq.html , and its example says hts -F server.test.com:23 80 |
| 19:28.18 | gniretar | !troll |
| 19:28.18 | dpkg | it has been said that troll is a race on some muds;a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/troll.html |
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| 19:28.26 | paulproteus|jhu | So I think you need hts -F localhost:22 2222 |
| 19:28.28 | s_ward | retro: Like anjuta? |
| 19:28.30 | paulproteus|jhu | somethin glike that. |
| 19:28.53 | bucky | s_ward, he's looking for visual basic |
| 19:29.00 | retro | s_ward forget about it :), anjuta has no GUI az faf az i know |
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| 19:29.30 | wooden | hi |
| 19:29.32 | gniretar | !lol |
| 19:29.32 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a penguin. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 19:29.39 | bucky | retro, install gnome2, glade2 and use mono |
| 19:29.39 | calaniz | paulproteus|jhu |
| 19:29.44 | calaniz | i think you were right |
| 19:29.45 | gniretar | i love the dpkg bot! |
| 19:29.46 | calaniz | thanks. |
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| 19:30.00 | bucky | !fuck gniretar |
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| 19:30.06 | paulproteus|jhu | calaniz, glad to have helped :) |
| 19:30.11 | gniretar | :ohnoes: |
| 19:30.13 | vladster | error opening the sequencer |
| 19:30.18 | wooden | ive upgradet from 2.6.10 to 2.6.14.2 and now i get some skb ip_local_deliver errors on my console |
| 19:30.25 | wooden | 2.6.12.4 |
| 19:30.29 | gniretar | lol |
| 19:30.32 | gniretar | i was wondering there |
| 19:30.36 | gniretar | did i miss 2.6.13? |
| 19:30.45 | s_ward | retro: No it doesn't, not yet: Some of the 'immediately' needed features: [...] 2. More advanced interaction (Bonobo component) with Glade to facilitate GUI editing. |
| 19:30.58 | TiTaN_pi8 | anyone that can tell me how to log everything that is displayed in the console to a file? |
| 19:31.24 | retro | s_ward I will be happy when this become true |
| 19:31.55 | vladster | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
| 19:32.06 | vladster | cd /dev |
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| 19:32.15 | fatal_ | TiTaN_pi8: redirect standard output (stdout) to a file..... foo > /tmp/file |
| 19:32.24 | jkaufman | a bunny with a vibrator?? who the hell though that up |
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| 19:32.36 | arcane | How do i update my NIS maps. Ive changed my hosts file but when i run make in /var/yp and check with one of the clients i still get the old map. Why is that? |
| 19:32.46 | TiTaN_pi8 | fatal that doesn't work |
| 19:32.49 | TiTaN_pi8 | it's for the xserver |
| 19:32.56 | TiTaN_pi8 | where is the xserver's log, |
| 19:33.01 | fatal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.03 | TiTaN_pi8 | i need to view startx's output |
| 19:33.05 | heidi | will vlc's dependecies be converted to gcc4 ay time soon? |
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| 19:33.41 | fatal_ | TiTaN_pi8: error messages are not written to stdout, they are written to stderr. 2>/tmp/file |
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| 19:34.22 | TiTaN_pi8 | fatal: it's not really an error message i'm looking for |
| 19:34.30 | TiTaN_pi8 | the first problem i have is this: |
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| 19:34.33 | JAD- | I have 2.5 Gigabytes free on my Linux partition (/dev/hda2). Can I take 512 MB's from there to create Swap partition on the same disk, lets say.. /dev/hda3 ? ANd how can I do that? Thanks. |
| 19:34.35 | Fuwex | I just reinstalled my MySQL database... But it seems my root superuser has no privileges, and I have no other users to login with and give him any privileges... So how can I make him superuser? |
| 19:34.37 | TiTaN_pi8 | dpkg-reconfigure doesn't work |
| 19:34.42 | TiTaN_pi8 | no file gets written |
| 19:34.46 | fatal_ | !doesn't work |
| 19:34.47 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 19:35.02 | TiTaN_pi8 | :) |
| 19:35.23 | dondelelcaro | Fuwex: run the mysql daemon with --no-grant-tables or whatever the right option is, fix them, and then restart it and log in. |
| 19:35.31 | Fuwex | okay, I'll try that, thanks |
| 19:35.40 | TiTaN_pi8 | i mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesn't work --> /etc/X11/XF86config-4 does not get written |
| 19:35.45 | wooden | whats is thie skb: ip_local_deliver ???? |
| 19:35.50 | dondelelcaro | !tell Fuwex about forgot mysql root password |
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| 19:36.24 | Fuwex | I haven't forgot it... ;p same procedure? |
| 19:36.30 | heidi | dondelelcaro: looks like you're going to have to put word in his [dpkg's] mouth |
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| 19:37.12 | vladster | still not sound |
| 19:37.24 | dondelelcaro | Fuwex: well, you don't know what the password is for some user who has ultimate powers on the mysql database, so same deal. |
| 19:37.31 | dondelelcaro | anyway, good luck. |
| 19:37.39 | vladster | could oss be causing this problem? |
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| 19:37.59 | Fuwex | dondelelcaro, but I know the password? |
| 19:38.12 | Fuwex | he just got no privileges ^_^ |
| 19:38.47 | chealer | TiTaN_pi8: did you manually edit the file? |
| 19:39.10 | vladster | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
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| 19:39.33 | vladster | this is the error I get when trying to use teh gui mixer ^ |
| 19:39.34 | yacyac | hii all |
| 19:39.36 | yacyac | anyone around |
| 19:39.42 | cat | yacyac: yeah what happend? |
| 19:39.48 | yacyac | hey cat |
| 19:39.52 | yacyac | i am new to debain |
| 19:39.55 | cat | ok |
| 19:39.59 | cat | and? |
| 19:40.06 | yacyac | i wanted to know will debain work fine on a laptop |
| 19:40.10 | zinx | what is debain? |
| 19:40.17 | cat | yacyac: www.debian.org/doc |
| 19:40.18 | yacyac | i have an acer aspire 5002 |
| 19:40.21 | cat | or www.debian.org |
| 19:40.40 | jkaufman | debian works quite fine on my laptop, so i dont see why it wouldnt work on yours |
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| 19:40.51 | TheStick | yacyac: try http://linux-laptop.net |
| 19:40.56 | TheStick | or tuxmobil.org |
| 19:40.57 | yacyac | jkaufman wanted to confirm |
| 19:41.05 | TheStick | maybe your laptop will be listed :) |
| 19:41.39 | cat | or maybe not(: |
| 19:41.42 | yacyac | kool |
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| 19:41.57 | yacyac | i have a amd turion processor |
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| 19:42.16 | Fuwex | hmm |
| 19:42.16 | yacyac | i am trying to download through jigdo |
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| 19:42.28 | yacyac | i amd currently downloading the testing dvd |
| 19:42.33 | Fuwex | it seems my MySQL wasn't completely uninstalled... How do I completely purge all of MySQL? |
| 19:42.41 | chealer | yacyac: what are the specs? |
| 19:42.44 | yacyac | it has 2 .jigdo file and 2 template files right |
| 19:42.48 | arcane | How do i update my NIS maps? |
| 19:42.58 | chealer | !tell Fuwex about purge |
| 19:43.26 | yacyac | chealer its AMD Turion 64 1.6ghz with 256mb ddr 60gb hdd with has windows installed in it |
| 19:43.28 | Fuwex | ah, the dpkg was the one I needed, just couldn't remember it ^_^ |
| 19:43.38 | yacyac | how much space will i need to install debain |
| 19:43.40 | phillipsjk | TiTaN_pi8: debug messages are considered error messages. |
| 19:43.52 | jkaufman | yacyac: how much space do you have |
| 19:44.01 | chealer | yacyac: depends what packages you'll want |
| 19:44.06 | yacyac | i have kept 10gb for debain |
| 19:44.08 | phillipsjk | sorry reading back-scroll. |
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| 19:44.11 | yacyac | is it enough |
| 19:44.16 | drac | yacyac: it's more than enough |
| 19:44.19 | yacyac | i have left a raw partition for debain |
| 19:44.21 | jkaufman | aye |
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| 19:44.25 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, how can i install apps using the commands you gave earlier? |
| 19:44.30 | chealer | yacyac: it's enough for lots of packages |
| 19:44.33 | yacyac | i see that debain is of 2 dvds |
| 19:44.39 | drac | !debain |
| 19:44.40 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 19:44.40 | paulproteus|jhu | euphor][a, they result in .deb files being generated. |
| 19:44.41 | yacyac | so was wondering if 10gb wont be enough |
| 19:44.42 | jkaufman | you could install a striped down system (with no packages) with about 250mb(give or take) |
| 19:44.51 | chealer | yacyac: these specs are the least useful to tell you what's not going to work well. |
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| 19:45.04 | yacyac | hehe |
| 19:45.04 | paulproteus|jhu | Install them with "dpkg -i {filename}" |
| 19:45.09 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, aah okay, how to install .deb, 'apt-get install foo.deb'? |
| 19:45.17 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, ok |
| 19:45.18 | paulproteus|jhu | euphor][a, You're slow. ;) |
| 19:46.05 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, lol, ate dinner :) |
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| 19:46.26 | euphor][a | paulproteus|jhu, it errors with a dependency problem |
| 19:46.35 | mfrisch | When I try to listen to a stream through mplayer or xmms it does not resolve the host. The same URL works fine in vlc. What is going on? :) |
| 19:46.35 | cat | euphor][a: pasted it on flood |
| 19:47.04 | euphor][a | http://pastebin.com/336141 |
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| 19:47.07 | cat | euphor][a: pasted it on #flood the error u get with the dependecy |
| 19:47.11 | Fuwex | How do I install MySQL version 4.0 through apt-get? (I need 4.0 because of compability with this software) |
| 19:47.22 | cat | Fuwex: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 19:47.27 | cat | or Fuwex apt-cache search mysql |
| 19:47.29 | Fuwex | is that 4.0? ^^ |
| 19:47.32 | euphor][a | cat, put it in pastebin |
| 19:47.36 | abrotman | Fuwex: apt-cache show mysql-server |
| 19:47.44 | pink1 | Can anyone help me with sorting out standby on a laptop running sarge - at the moment the only way it goes to standby is when the battery runs down:-/ |
| 19:47.50 | cat | euphor][a: the link? |
| 19:47.57 | euphor][a | cat, ^^ |
| 19:48.00 | euphor][a | cat, http://pastebin.com/336141 |
| 19:48.04 | Fuwex | oh, thanks guy |
| 19:48.06 | Fuwex | guys* |
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| 19:48.19 | Fuwex | didn't realize mysql-server was 4.0... thought it was the latest one ;p |
| 19:48.30 | cat | euphor][a: sid isn't it? |
| 19:48.46 | euphor][a | cat, trying to emerge gnome-art |
| 19:48.52 | mfrisch | Fuwex it depends what you are running |
| 19:48.57 | abrotman | euphor][a: wrong distro |
| 19:48.57 | euphor][a | cat, sarge |
| 19:48.58 | cat | try ruby also |
| 19:48.59 | witch | euphor][a: But it just tells you, what is missed. |
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| 19:49.13 | cat | just installed ruby and gnome-art and you'r done with the issue |
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| 19:49.14 | Fuwex | mfrisch, well, I did apt-cache show.. it said 4.0 |
| 19:49.16 | witch | but why don't you use apt-get? |
| 19:49.19 | euphor][a | can i tell apt to install required deps? |
| 19:49.22 | abrotman | euphor][a: apt-get -f install |
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| 19:49.29 | cat | euphor][a: yeah |
| 19:49.37 | euphor][a | how? |
| 19:49.40 | euphor][a | plz |
| 19:49.49 | abrotman | euphor][a: apt-get -f install |
| 19:49.54 | abrotman | !plz |
| 19:49.54 | dpkg | hmm... plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 19:49.56 | euphor][a | abrotman, it's a package from unstable |
| 19:49.59 | euphor][a | abrotman, ta |
| 19:50.03 | mfrisch | Fuwex yup what prog are you connecting to mysql? |
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| 19:50.10 | MattGideon | What is stable at the moment? |
| 19:50.20 | abrotman | sarge |
| 19:50.22 | abrotman | !stable |
| 19:50.22 | dpkg | [stable] the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is sarge 3.1r0, or ask me about releases. |
| 19:50.49 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 19:50.49 | MattGideon | What command do I run to see what I have? |
| 19:50.49 | dpkg | <yazid> "dumb client with the fewest moving parts" .. a phrase dangerous when overheard by strangers out of the IT office ;) |
| 19:50.58 | cat | MattGideon: what do you mean |
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| 19:51.11 | abrotman | MattGideon: you can check your sources .. or cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:51.11 | cat | MattGideon: be expecific |
| 19:51.13 | MattGideon | How do I see if I have sarge? |
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| 19:51.23 | witch | in /etc/debian |
| 19:51.26 | cat | MattGideon: nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:51.38 | cat | or cat /etc/apt/sources.list you will see if you have sarge unstable etc, |
| 19:51.47 | MattGideon | That says woody |
| 19:51.59 | abrotman | !tell MattGideon about woody->sarge |
| 19:52.00 | cat | damn it's old |
| 19:52.11 | witch | MattGideon: and /etc/debian ? |
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| 19:52.25 | cat | witch: /etc/debian? |
| 19:52.26 | cat | wtf? |
| 19:52.33 | abrotman | witch: stop lying |
| 19:52.44 | MattGideon | No such file |
| 19:52.47 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.51 | cat | MattGideon: don't listen to him |
| 19:52.55 | witch | sorry: debian_version |
| 19:52.59 | abrotman | MattGideon: it's /etc/debian_version |
| 19:53.01 | euphor][a | abrotman, okay so how does this work, what did 'apt-get -f install' do? how does it know to emerge what i need? |
| 19:53.06 | MattGideon | 3.0 |
| 19:53.08 | nkuttler | cat: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:53.13 | abrotman | euphor][a: debian DOES NOT emerge |
| 19:53.16 | witch | cat: cou can use the tab completion, can't you? |
| 19:53.28 | abrotman | witch: but you didn't say that |
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| 19:53.32 | euphor][a | abrotman, i know, slight of mouth |
| 19:53.32 | abrotman | MattGideon: that is woody |
| 19:53.33 | cat | that's gentoo isn't it |
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| 19:53.38 | cat | that emerge |
| 19:53.46 | euphor][a | yeah >.< |
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| 19:53.58 | JoshH | lmao |
| 19:54.01 | JoshH | go back to gentoo |
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| 19:54.14 | mfrisch | When I try to listen to a stream through mplayer or xmms it does not resolve the host. The same URL works fine in vlc. What is going on? :) |
| 19:54.20 | MattGideon | aptitude replaces apt-get then? |
| 19:54.25 | euphor][a | gentoo is great. |
| 19:54.29 | plb | hrm what mailing should someone that runs unstable be on? |
| 19:54.32 | plb | er |
| 19:54.34 | abrotman | MattGideon: not really .. it's another front end ... |
| 19:54.35 | plb | mailing list |
| 19:54.41 | abrotman | plb: how much do you want to read? |
| 19:54.52 | plb | abrotman: heh umm |
| 19:54.53 | JoshH | mfrisch: do you give it the url to the actual media file? |
| 19:54.54 | drc | plb: can't you find it in debian.org ? |
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| 19:55.07 | JoshH | plb: probably -user and -devel at least |
| 19:55.09 | witch | plb: debian-testing, maybe |
| 19:55.09 | abrotman | plb: i'm serious |
| 19:55.17 | abrotman | witch: wtf are you talking about |
| 19:55.17 | mfrisch | JoshH same exact URL |
| 19:55.25 | nkuttler | plb: security |
| 19:55.27 | abrotman | plb: at the VERY LEAST .. d-d-a |
| 19:55.31 | plb | abrotman: well not that much hehe |
| 19:55.36 | abrotman | nkuttler: security won't affect him |
| 19:55.37 | plb | d-d-a? |
| 19:55.40 | JoshH | mfrisch: but is it the url to the file itself, or just a page with the file playing? |
| 19:55.43 | abrotman | plb: at the least .. debian-devel-announce |
| 19:55.47 | plb | ah ok |
| 19:55.47 | mfrisch | JoshH am listening to it right now through vlc |
| 19:55.49 | plb | thanks |
| 19:55.51 | abrotman | plb: many read debian-devel |
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| 19:55.59 | defcon8 | anyone wanna play go on yahoo with me? |
| 19:56.00 | luminousnerd | Hello |
| 19:56.01 | x-Al1gma | hello luminousnerd |
| 19:56.04 | luminousnerd | anyone use mondo? |
| 19:56.07 | witch | it is ugly, if people always ask unstabel quesitions in user |
| 19:56.13 | witch | unstable |
| 19:56.19 | luminousnerd | x-Al1gma, 'lo |
| 19:56.25 | JoshH | there isnt an unstable specific mailing list |
| 19:56.29 | abrotman | isn't monda a mono app ? |
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| 19:56.40 | luminousnerd | abrotman, umm, huh? |
| 19:56.42 | mfrisch | JoshH Just shoutcast and other streamtuner streams |
| 19:56.45 | abrotman | guess not |
| 19:56.47 | luminousnerd | abrotman, mono? |
| 19:56.56 | abrotman | luminousnerd: what? |
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| 19:57.24 | luminousnerd | abrotman, what's a mono app? |
| 19:57.41 | abrotman | luminousnerd: you know .. runs on the mono runtime crap? |
| 19:57.44 | abrotman | !mono |
| 19:57.44 | dpkg | i guess mono is a community initiative to develop an open source, Cross platform version of the Microsoft.NET development platform. http://www.go-mono.com/ or the kissing disease, mononucleosis |
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| 19:58.36 | abrotman | luminousnerd: and the answer is no .. it's not a mono app |
| 19:58.41 | luminousnerd | err |
| 19:58.42 | luminousnerd | ok |
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| 19:59.02 | luminousnerd | anyway no one uses mondo? :/ |
| 19:59.14 | MattGideon | How can sarge be testing and stable? |
| 19:59.15 | owner | Q: Where's the file located that cyou add your domain name to |
| 19:59.17 | trigger_ | is there a debian mirror with amd64 packages? cant find one, im located in sweden |
| 19:59.28 | Wyzard | MattGideon: It isn't... etch is testing |
| 19:59.32 | vladster | alsa is configured but it cannot access my card |
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| 19:59.43 | Akbar | how is Etch running? |
| 19:59.44 | MattGideon | apt sarge |
| 19:59.44 | apt | from memory, sarge is the new testing. Ten-HUT! Sarge Unoffical ISOS! http://www.sz.kernel.org/pub/linux/iso-images/debian/sarge-unofficial/ or <fooz> sarge is an army man, or some magical, radically different version of debian, or do not use the sarge ISOs to install it, they are broken, or a q3 bot, and unknown when it will go stable, see "sarge pool". |
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| 19:59.49 | cadu | offtopic |
| 19:59.53 | abrotman | that's old |
| 19:59.54 | cadu | i was using a load of things before going to work (4 hours ago) |
| 19:59.56 | cadu | and 23Mb cached |
| 19:59.57 | abrotman | dpkg: sarge |
| 19:59.57 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 19:59.59 | cadu | mem still shoes only 6MB free |
| 20:00.10 | abrotman | apt: no sarge is Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 20:00.10 | apt | okay, abrotman |
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| 20:00.12 | loren | Q: Where's the file located that you add your domain name to? |
| 20:00.27 | KomiaPoika | apt, what is sarge? |
| 20:00.28 | apt | KomiaPoika: what are you talking about? |
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| 20:00.34 | vladster | alsaconf sees the sound card fine |
| 20:00.39 | loren | 0_O |
| 20:00.40 | cadu | KomiaPoika: !sarge |
| 20:00.44 | KomiaPoika | !sarge |
| 20:00.44 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 20:00.46 | abrotman | or apt: sarge |
| 20:00.50 | eonbleuz | !cheese |
| 20:00.50 | cadu | !idiot |
| 20:00.50 | dpkg | methinks cheese is made from milk, be it from Cows or Humans. Can also use goat's milk, and tastes very good that way |
| 20:00.50 | dpkg | I know you are, but what am I?, or someone who tries to use a Ubuntu package on Debian and calls it a dpkg issue when dependencies dont resolve |
| 20:00.50 | abrotman | or /msg apt sarge |
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| 20:00.54 | abrotman | or /msg dpkg sarge |
| 20:01.01 | Akbar | is there a backport for gnome 2.10 to sarge? |
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| 20:01.09 | vladster | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory |
| 20:01.10 | MattGideon | Which bot should I use apt or dpkg? |
| 20:01.11 | ice_1963 | olo |
| 20:01.11 | abrotman | Akbar: not that i've seen .. but 2.8 is in sarge |
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| 20:01.19 | Akbar | yeah running now.. |
| 20:01.25 | abrotman | MattGideon: whichever you prefer .. dpkg is probably a bit more up to date |
| 20:01.29 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 20:01.37 | cadu | apt get install :) |
| 20:01.49 | MattGideon | Is ravenbird still here? |
| 20:01.55 | abrotman | yes |
| 20:02.01 | abrotman | ravenbird: who are you |
| 20:02.01 | ravenbird | I'm a chimp! |
| 20:02.07 | MattGideon | !botsnack |
| 20:02.12 | luminousnerd | Okay, well, what I want to do is completely duplicate the system I'm on now to 19 others. I will do this with CD-Rs. How can I make a bootable CD with all of my computer data, that I can just stick on a currently Windows machine and write exactly what I have? |
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| 20:02.29 | abrotman | luminousnerd: fai ? |
| 20:02.34 | abrotman | luminousnerd: systemimager? |
| 20:03.08 | luminousnerd | abrotman, what? |
| 20:03.11 | abrotman | !FAI |
| 20:03.11 | dpkg | from memory, fai is Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
| 20:03.25 | abrotman | !info systemimager-server sarge |
| 20:03.31 | dpkg | systemimager-server: (Automate GNU/Linux installs and upgrades over a network), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.2.3-6 (sarge), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 644 kB |
| 20:03.45 | luminousnerd | Well I'm actually on ubuntu |
| 20:03.50 | luminousnerd | And I don't want distro-specific |
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| 20:03.55 | luminousnerd | and not over a network |
| 20:03.58 | RogueDopple | wt hell |
| 20:03.59 | luminousnerd | over CDs, as I said |
| 20:04.07 | abrotman | dd |
| 20:04.17 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: FAI would probably work for Ubuntu too |
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| 20:04.48 | ice_1963 | :0)- |
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| 20:05.03 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: FAI won't work for RPM-based distributions, but should probably work for any dpkg-based one. |
| 20:05.07 | luminousnerd | hmm, so FAI copies this exact CD? |
| 20:05.23 | luminousnerd | I mean, this EXACT hard drive with all configuration options, files, etc? |
| 20:05.38 | |mmorta|Sou| | I have a question. I am using KDE at the moment and want to know if its possible to change the resolution of the screen past 800x600 ? |
| 20:05.41 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: No, it installs a defined set of packages and configures them in a defined way |
| 20:05.47 | abrotman | holy mother |
| 20:05.50 | luminousnerd | Oh, no thanks |
| 20:05.56 | luminousnerd | appreciate it though |
| 20:05.58 | abrotman | !drxx |mmorta|Sou| |
| 20:05.58 | dpkg | |mmorta|Sou|: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:06.03 | ice_1963 | ubuntu is not going to last long |
| 20:06.04 | abrotman | what a stupid nick |
| 20:06.09 | luminousnerd | I want to, as I said, completely copy what I have on this computer. EXACTLY like it is. |
| 20:06.24 | abrotman | i think i said systemimage .. oh well |
| 20:06.38 | RogueDopple | abrotman: they never listen |
| 20:06.39 | abrotman | and no .. i don't know if it will work from CD .. read some docs |
| 20:06.41 | euphor][a | do i need do anything to make artwiz fonts available to X? |
| 20:06.42 | RogueDopple | unless you buy a shotgun |
| 20:06.43 | ice_1963 | thay will give it up |
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| 20:07.00 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: If the other systems have the same type of hard drive (same model and capacity, that is), the best thing to do would be a raw duplicate of the drive itself |
| 20:07.02 | deadcat | ice_1963: why you say that? |
| 20:07.04 | |mmorta|Sou| | ok |
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| 20:07.09 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, they are all the exact same |
| 20:07.15 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, how would you do that? |
| 20:07.27 | cadu | ubuntu is not going to last |
| 20:07.32 | |mmorta|Sou| | I did that and I get a screen asking which X server driver to install. Which one should I pick ? |
| 20:07.33 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: but I don't know of any automated tools for splitting a large disk image across multiple CDs and then applying the image to another system by reading the CDs |
| 20:07.33 | ice_1963 | you will see |
| 20:07.37 | deadcat | i am an usader (= |
| 20:07.37 | cadu | after the hype phase passes , who you look after it ? |
| 20:07.44 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: If network were an option, you could just use dd and netcat |
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| 20:08.12 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, but there's not enough cat5 to go around, nor do we have enough/big enough hub(s) |
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| 20:08.52 | |mmorta|Sou| | I have an ati 9200 AIW card. Which one should I select on the list ? |
| 20:08.52 | vladster | is there a way to remove oss from a system without causing kernel paninc? |
| 20:08.52 | vladster | oss is blocking alsa from accessing the soundcard |
| 20:09.00 | MattGideon | Do I do aptitude update? Or do I do dist-upgrade? |
| 20:09.01 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: A simple crossover cable would suffice... plug one end into the source system, and the other end into each of the target systems, one at a time |
| 20:09.10 | abrotman | vladster: they shouldn't be running at the same time |
| 20:09.14 | deadcat | MattGideon: update && dist-upgrade |
| 20:09.16 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, crossover cable? cat5 right? |
| 20:09.19 | abrotman | |mmorta|Sou|: radeon afaik |
| 20:09.22 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: cat5 is pretty cheap btw... a few months ago I got 1000 feet of cat5e for less than $50 |
| 20:09.23 | cadu | Wyzard: pluggin both at a time would do what? eheheh |
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| 20:09.35 | abrotman | Wyzard: it's down to about 30$ isn't it ? |
| 20:09.35 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, well we have a bit of it |
| 20:09.39 | luminousnerd | and we'll need it any way |
| 20:09.49 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: cat5 wired as crossover... the difference is in how you attach the connectors |
| 20:09.49 | luminousnerd | but I don't actually have ENOUGH with me to network them all |
| 20:09.53 | luminousnerd | but I have like one line of it |
| 20:10.06 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, oh..uhh..not gonna mess with that |
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| 20:10.25 | abrotman | luminousnerd: are you also luminerd ? |
| 20:10.27 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: You don't have to network them all... just one at a time |
| 20:10.29 | cadu | Wyzard: eheheh |
| 20:10.40 | bushido | hi folks |
| 20:10.45 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: If you don't want to make a crossover cable, just use a hub and two cables |
| 20:10.48 | luminousnerd | abrotman, yes |
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| 20:11.03 | abrotman | luminousnerd: really .. fai is probably what oyu want ... |
| 20:11.03 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, I know, but changin the cat5 is not something I have the tools to do |
| 20:11.04 | abrotman | or wait |
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| 20:11.15 | luminousnerd | abrotman no...I can't use it |
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| 20:11.22 | cadu | luminousnerd: MAN |
| 20:11.23 | luminousnerd | It is not anything like what I'm lookign for. |
| 20:11.26 | Wyzard | abrotman: No, it isn't... he needs an exact image copy, ideally on CDs |
| 20:11.28 | luminousnerd | cadu? |
| 20:11.32 | yacyac | hey is it good to download from jigdo or its good to download from ftp |
| 20:11.42 | cadu | luminousnerd: just cut a fscking normal cable and rewire the wires with silver tape or solder them if you have time |
| 20:11.46 | Wyzard | yacyac: Use jigdo when possible |
| 20:11.47 | abrotman | Wyzard: and then when they all boot once and all have the same name and IP .. ... |
| 20:11.58 | yacyac | i downloaded |
| 20:11.59 | Wyzard | abrotman: DHCP :-) |
| 20:12.04 | yacyac | and its not gui |
| 20:12.04 | cadu | luminousnerd: i had a 5m cable and i've hacked it and made it crossover in a emergency, works fine |
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| 20:12.08 | abrotman | Wyzard: you assume too much |
| 20:12.26 | Wyzard | abrotman: Anyway, that's a relatively small manual change to make afterward |
| 20:12.38 | abrotman | Wyzard: right .. i mean . first he'd need a network :) |
| 20:12.55 | luminousnerd | cadu, I'm sure that sounds simple to you but I DONT have time and I DONT have the tools or supplies |
| 20:12.55 | luminousnerd | nor any experience |
| 20:13.06 | luminousnerd | cadu, not inserested. thanks though. |
| 20:13.12 | cadu | luminousnerd: tools? a knife! |
| 20:13.18 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Do you have a hub with at least 2 ports (it wouldn't be much of a hub with less than 2 ports) and two cables? |
| 20:13.21 | TheStick | or teeth :p |
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| 20:13.41 | luminousnerd | cadu, first off I don't have one, second of _NO_ |
| 20:13.43 | |mmorta|Sou| | Ok I have been through the xserver setup do I need to do a quick reboot ? |
| 20:13.43 | abrotman | !dphys |
| 20:13.43 | dpkg | well, dphys is http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/ |
| 20:13.51 | cadu | luminousnerd: ahhaha how you'll do it so? |
| 20:13.56 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, yes, I do, but that is going to be quite a pain |
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| 20:14.13 | phillipsjk | I think norton ghost boots from a floppy and supports multiple CD's. Evil commercial software, however. |
| 20:14.17 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Another thought... if you use partimage, you might be able to get an image that'll fit on a DVD-R |
| 20:14.41 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: though that doesn't solve the problem of needing something bootable on the target system with which to apply the image |
| 20:14.47 | cadu | phillipsjk: Acronis is another software that does that, much better than ghost as it also understands ext3 and reiserfs etc...commercial tho |
| 20:15.03 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, no burner. |
| 20:15.30 | mfrisch | luminousnerd partimaged? |
| 20:15.31 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: You can only burn CDs, not DVDs? |
| 20:15.38 | cadu | eheheh |
| 20:15.41 | cadu | _no_ burner, Wyzard |
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| 20:15.54 | luminousnerd | I just wish someone would acknowledge my real problem...cdrecord --scanbus isn't workign that's my problem! |
| 20:16.00 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, right |
| 20:16.01 | cadu | luminousnerd: niiiiiiiiiice |
| 20:16.09 | Wyzard | cadu: If he couldn't burn CDs, he wouldn't be asking about how to put a disk image on CDs |
| 20:16.11 | cadu | luminousnerd: what kernel are you using? |
| 20:16.12 | yacyac | i dont know how to use jigdo-lite |
| 20:16.19 | yacyac | can anyone help me out |
| 20:16.25 | Karnaugh | luminousnerd: I had the same crap |
| 20:16.30 | Wyzard | yacyac: jigdo-lite http://url-to-jigdo-file |
| 20:16.33 | Karnaugh | luminousnerd: just used k3b |
| 20:16.40 | cadu | luminousnerd: what kernel are you using? |
| 20:16.43 | luminousnerd | Karnaugh, k3b with mondo/ |
| 20:16.44 | cadu | luminousnerd: 2.6.x ? |
| 20:16.45 | luminousnerd | Karnaugh, how? |
| 20:17.01 | Karnaugh | mondo? |
| 20:17.02 | abrotman | oh .. ffs |
| 20:17.06 | abrotman | he's not even using debian |
| 20:17.08 | cadu | !mondo |
| 20:17.08 | dpkg | i guess mondo is a full-featured backup/restore system with support for backup media CDRW, tape, NFS mount, etc - a complete system can be restored from bare metal. |
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| 20:17.14 | Karnaugh | ... |
| 20:17.28 | cadu | abrotman: nothing to see here |
| 20:17.29 | cadu | :) |
| 20:17.29 | yacyac | Wyzard i have downloaded jigdo file and .template files |
| 20:17.45 | nvz | is there a possibility I could use all these 18 extra MM Keys on my keyboard to control my window manager functions? I was reconfiguring my bindings, and it would be cool since i got 18 unmapped keys to make single press keys to switch workspaces and such |
| 20:17.47 | Wyzard | yacyac: Then use the local filename of the .jigdo file rather than the URL |
| 20:18.11 | nvz | I know about xbindkeys and hotkeys to map them to commands, but I dont know if I could use them somehow for my wm functions |
| 20:18.17 | mfrisch | nvz xbindkeys |
| 20:18.19 | abrotman | nvz: possible yes ... |
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| 20:18.24 | luminousnerd | PLease?! |
| 20:18.25 | arcane | How do i check if my nis client can reach my nis server? |
| 20:18.26 | luminousnerd | someone help@ |
| 20:18.35 | cadu | luminousnerd: grab a torch and forks |
| 20:18.36 | yacyac | Wyzard does it need to be in same dir |
| 20:18.37 | cadu | :- ) |
| 20:18.38 | abrotman | arcane: logs are good |
| 20:18.41 | yacyac | as i am using windows right ow |
| 20:18.46 | nvz | abrotman: have any suggestions I cant think of how |
| 20:18.53 | Wyzard | yacyac: dunno... give it a try and find out |
| 20:18.54 | abrotman | nvz: mfrisch said xbindkeys |
| 20:18.55 | arcane | abrotman, suggestions on where to look? |
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| 20:19.02 | luminousnerd | :( |
| 20:19.04 | abrotman | arcane: /var/log/ :) |
| 20:19.41 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: If you're using Ubuntu Hoary then you have a 2.6 kernel... try "cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI:" |
| 20:19.48 | arcane | abrotman, sorry :P |
| 20:19.49 | nvz | well xbindkeys works good, but how do I bind it to switching my workspace or something like my bindings configurator in my wm? of can I bind them to some keystroke and then map that in my wm? |
| 20:19.50 | abrotman | or ask #ubuntu |
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| 20:20.14 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Your device will be something like "ATAPI:0,0" |
| 20:20.14 | abrotman | nvz: you could map it to another keycode ... |
| 20:20.29 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, same thing :( |
| 20:20.44 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: The ATAPI scan doesn't return anything? |
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| 20:21.00 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, no, it doesn't say it |
| 20:21.05 | nvz | abrotman: I wasnt aware you could do that |
| 20:21.09 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: How is the burner connected? (IDE, SCSI, USB, etc. ?) |
| 20:21.10 | cadu | cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 20:21.12 | abrotman | nvz: don't see why not |
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| 20:21.26 | nvz | abrotman: I will install xbindkeys-config and see what it says |
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| 20:22.07 | witch | luminousnerd: you get really no output and no other message? |
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| 20:22.24 | luminousnerd | http://pastebin.com/336162 |
| 20:22.26 | luminousnerd | that's my error |
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| 20:22.35 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, no clue, probably IDE |
| 20:23.00 | nvz | abrotman: I have Alt+Arrow Keys doing it now but there is no reason I should have to use a combo like that where I have to take my hand off the mouse when I have 18 unmapped keys.. heh if I were left handed I could manage that key combo without taking my hand off the mouse |
| 20:23.06 | cadu | luminousnerd: type "dmesg | more" |
| 20:23.09 | cadu | and find it |
| 20:23.20 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: That's the output of "cdrecord -scanbus"... did you try "cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI" like both I and cadu told you? |
| 20:23.52 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, yes |
| 20:24.03 | abrotman | nvz: i'm right handed .. but i don't really use my mouse .. i have enough key mappings that i don't touch it |
| 20:24.19 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Oops, nevermind... didn't realize there were two commands worth of output in that paste |
| 20:24.21 | nvz | abrotman: this is a damn gateway ps2 keyboard, but its cool they gave me 4 function keys on either end of the keyboard and 10 at the top. I didnt like the stupid suggested uses so much I took the fucker apart and use a nail file to make them blank |
| 20:24.26 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, they are the same |
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| 20:24.59 | nvz | abrotman: I am trying to get mine setup. I am making use of the menu key and various modifiers to controll all the menus in my wm |
| 20:25.05 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Not the same, but that error "No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver." is not one that I've seen before when using cdrecord over ATAPI |
| 20:25.19 | abrotman | nvz: good plan :) |
| 20:25.21 | moty66 | I am really new in linux, how can i change my screen resolution to 1200x800 I hacve LCD 15,4 " |
| 20:25.35 | abrotman | still not on debian :) |
| 20:25.43 | abrotman | !drxx moty66 |
| 20:25.44 | dpkg | moty66: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:25.44 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: If your burner is internal then it's either IDE or SCSI |
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| 20:26.06 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: This could be caused by some difference in Ubuntu vs. Debian that I'm not aware of, so you should ask in #ubuntu |
| 20:26.16 | cadu | ricers :) |
| 20:26.20 | Akbar | will debian be supporting autopackage? |
| 20:26.22 | arcane | abrotman, I couldnt find anything in there saying that my connection failed or succeeded, |
| 20:26.28 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, they have banned me :/ |
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| 20:26.34 | moty66 | abauer, I did this but I can't find 1200x800 |
| 20:26.42 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, it's a very cheap machine I doubt it's scsi |
| 20:26.49 | moty66 | abrotman, I did this but I can't find 1200x800 |
| 20:26.50 | gniretar | !troll you all |
| 20:26.51 | Wyzard | moty66: Why 1200x800? |
| 20:27.03 | cadu | Wyzard: wide :-) |
| 20:27.09 | abrotman | but it's nto right |
| 20:27.14 | gniretar | yea, for widescreen taht is a good res |
| 20:27.16 | moty66 | because this is the correct resolution of my monitor, it is wide screen |
| 20:27.19 | Wyzard | That's not 16:9 though |
| 20:27.25 | gniretar | l8er all |
| 20:27.30 | gniretar | !fuck you all |
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| 20:27.45 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Not our problem... presumably you were banned for a reason |
| 20:27.47 | nvz | I dont see mention in the xbindkeys-config or the xbindkeys manpages about mapping them to anything but commands. is there some command I can issue to make it another keystroke? echo -e or something? heh |
| 20:27.48 | cadu | !fuck his mama |
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| 20:28.05 | mypapit | branded vibrator.. |
| 20:28.06 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, well I'm not sure, left one day and when I went back I had no voice |
| 20:28.12 | moty66 | any solution? |
| 20:28.23 | cadu | luminousnerd: maybe it's because you're annoying :) |
| 20:28.23 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: So you're allowed in the channel, but just devoiced? |
| 20:28.37 | drac | moty66: You probably need a Modeline for that. Check out "gtf" command, like "gtf 1200 800 85" would create a Modeline for 85hz. |
| 20:28.42 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: /msg one of their ops and ask to be re-voiced, I guess |
| 20:28.57 | drac | moty66: And that line goes to XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf, in /etc/X11 |
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| 20:29.14 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: I've been helping you here because your problem seemed distribution-independent, but it's looking now like it might be Ubuntu-specific, and asking Ubuntu-specific stuff here can get you banned from here too |
| 20:29.14 | deadcat | drac: by the way. i tried xorg -5, still hangs my ibook. so just gonna wait for 6.9 |
| 20:29.16 | yacyac | does jigdo resume if closed ? |
| 20:29.20 | euphor][a | how do i enable artwiz fonts in X? i have installed them but they don't appear |
| 20:29.21 | Wyzard | yacyac: yes |
| 20:29.22 | nvz | I'm at a loss for an idea of how to get that to work |
| 20:29.23 | moty66 | drac, i'll try |
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| 20:29.51 | cadu | yacyac: yeah |
| 20:30.04 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, I've done that...and I'm sorry, but I too thought it was distro-indi. |
| 20:30.08 | cadu | yacyac: you just have to issue the SAME command, it'll resume from where you killed it |
| 20:30.18 | nvz | I could probably use sawfish-client but I'd have to learn how :P |
| 20:30.37 | yacyac | issue the same command means ? |
| 20:30.39 | moty66 | drac, can i msg you ? to paste the results |
| 20:30.46 | drac | moty66: Go ahead. |
| 20:30.53 | euphor][a | anyone? |
| 20:30.56 | drac | deadcat: D'oh, i'm playing with 7.0 modular myself atm :) |
| 20:31.00 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: NP... but you're at a point now which I haven't seen and can't reproduce, so I can't help you any further |
| 20:31.02 | deadcat | damn (= |
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| 20:31.16 | drac | deadcat: <sorry> on Gentoo </sorry> :) |
| 20:31.20 | ice_1963 | hay what do i need to install for fluxbox Backgroub PL |
| 20:31.26 | yacyac | how will i know if everything is going on well |
| 20:31.38 | yacyac | it will download everything ? |
| 20:31.45 | yacyac | how big is the 2 dvds |
| 20:31.53 | deadcat | drac: hehehe. |
| 20:31.55 | Wyzard | yacyac: Two full DVDs are about 9GB |
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| 20:32.14 | yacyac | ouch |
| 20:32.15 | Wyzard | yacyac: so be prepared to wait awhile |
| 20:32.19 | yacyac | gonna take a lot of time |
| 20:32.23 | yacyac | hehe yeah |
| 20:32.47 | yacyac | i can wait for long |
| 20:32.52 | Wyzard | yacyac: It helps to pick a fast mirror... and that's where jigdo really helps, because it lets you use package mirrors, and there are a lot more package mirrors than cdimage mirrors |
| 20:32.56 | yacyac | if everything goes well |
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| 20:33.04 | beardy | yacyac: Does the box that you are going to install on have better than dialup internet connection? |
| 20:33.11 | yacyac | lol |
| 20:33.13 | yacyac | no |
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| 20:33.32 | yacyac | its somewhat like dialup |
| 20:33.34 | phillipsjk | metaperl: 26 days |
| 20:33.35 | yacyac | but not a dialup |
| 20:33.41 | kadigibox | how is wifi compatiblility with the intel chips that have it intigrated? |
| 20:33.41 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 20:33.45 | phillipsjk | (eta:) 26 days |
| 20:33.54 | Shadowcat | kadigibox: pretty good |
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| 20:34.02 | yacyac | i was getting some error 404 |
| 20:34.06 | kadigibox | no compatiblility problems? |
| 20:34.20 | Wyzard | yacyac: That's files missing from the mirror... try a different mirror |
| 20:34.20 | kadigibox | or minor |
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| 20:34.50 | yacyac | but it is automatically downloading something else |
| 20:35.04 | Wyzard | yacyac: You can let it download most of the files from one mirror, and then run it again with a different mirror to get any remaining files that were missing from the first one |
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| 20:35.36 | F4AF | can anyone help me run an iso without a cd burner? |
| 20:35.46 | cat | F4AF: get a floppy |
| 20:35.47 | Wyzard | F4AF: "run" ? |
| 20:35.52 | Wyzard | F4AF: What are you trying to do with it? |
| 20:36.13 | yacyac | how do i select a different server |
| 20:36.14 | Wyzard | F4AF: You can loop-mount it to access the files on it, but you can't boot it without burning it |
| 20:36.16 | yacyac | i mean mirror |
| 20:36.24 | Wyzard | yacyac: Jigdo asks you when you run it, IIRC |
| 20:36.26 | cat | yacyac: apt-setup |
| 20:36.28 | F4AF | o ok |
| 20:36.36 | yacyac | i am on windows |
| 20:37.03 | flexo | i'd think it shouldn't be too hard to implement iso booting in grub |
| 20:37.17 | phillipsjk | yacyac : that's worse the heroin ;) |
| 20:37.17 | Wyzard | flexo: Then feel free to implement it :-) |
| 20:37.19 | flexo | it already knows filesystems and chainloading after all |
| 20:37.32 | Wyzard | flexo: There's more to booting a CD than simple chainloading though |
| 20:37.36 | yacyac | phillipsjk ??? |
| 20:37.48 | chealer | dpkg: gnudoku is the best-looking free sudoku game, with a GTK GUI. doesn't quite look worth paper yet as of 0.91. |
| 20:37.48 | dpkg | chealer: okay |
| 20:38.05 | flexo | oh well.. the os on the cd might try to access the cdrom... :) |
| 20:38.18 | Wyzard | flexo: That's a big part of it |
| 20:38.30 | abrotman | !funny |
| 20:38.30 | dpkg | [funny] Bug report #41459; xmms: xmms eats my memory and finds it tasty. http://members.lycos.co.uk/ukrock/individual_pages/various/argentina-1.jpg |
| 20:38.56 | yacyac | 256mb ram is enough to run kde or gnome ? |
| 20:39.05 | Wyzard | yacyac: yes |
| 20:39.07 | TheStick | sure |
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| 20:39.26 | yacyac | i am spareing 10gb for debain to resite |
| 20:39.53 | Shadowcat | 10gb is plenty |
| 20:40.00 | yacyac | kool |
| 20:40.09 | yacyac | how will it make iso ? |
| 20:40.20 | yacyac | right now its doing everything in folders |
| 20:40.20 | Wyzard | yacyac: When jigdo finishes, you'll have an iso |
| 20:40.38 | Wyzard | yacyac: It downloads individual package files and uses them to "assemble" the iso, basically |
| 20:41.08 | madclicker | is there a package fot frontpage for sarge? |
| 20:41.12 | yacyac | ok |
| 20:41.17 | madclicker | for |
| 20:41.31 | chealer | !frontpage |
| 20:41.31 | dpkg | from memory, frontpage is evil. Dont use it because there are alot of bugs in the extensions server side as well that randomly delete permissions and sometimes the extensions become corrupted beyone repair |
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| 20:41.47 | yacyac | like everytime it finishs downloading it will create an iso or at certian size |
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| 20:42.13 | Schmock | hi! what would you recommend more? xfree 4.5.0 or xorg? |
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| 20:42.30 | abrotman | Schmock: xfree4.5 will never be in debian |
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| 20:42.49 | Wyzard | yacyac: Each package file it downloads goes into the iso being built, but the iso won't be finished and usable until jigdo is done |
| 20:43.21 | Wyzard | Schmock: xfree has been abandoned by most distributions |
| 20:43.22 | yacyac | ok |
| 20:43.23 | deadcat | xfree is not more.. not just debian. any linux distro. they did it to themselves.. |
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| 20:43.53 | Schmock | hmmmmm ok ;) i almost installed xfree :D |
| 20:44.05 | ESTEBENZ | ola |
| 20:44.09 | ESTEBENZ | xD |
| 20:44.10 | Wyzard | Schmock: You should stick with packages that are in Debian |
| 20:44.34 | abrotman | !es |
| 20:44.34 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 20:45.18 | cadu | Schmock: stick with them, don't be a Schmock |
| 20:45.23 | Schmock | should i install soundcard driver before i install xorg |
| 20:45.24 | Schmock | hehe^^ |
| 20:45.33 | Wyzard | Schmock: Are you running unstable? |
| 20:45.37 | moty66 | it works now 1200x800 :) thanks |
| 20:45.46 | cadu | Schmock: ^^ |
| 20:46.13 | cadu | !br |
| 20:46.14 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 20:46.18 | cadu | !de |
| 20:46.18 | dpkg | methinks de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 20:46.22 | Schmock | no i installed sarge stable and compiled the 2.6.12.4 kernel |
| 20:46.30 | Wyzard | Schmock: xorg isn't in sarge |
| 20:46.36 | yacyac | i am downloading testing dvd |
| 20:46.39 | yacyac | is it fine ? |
| 20:46.54 | abrotman | sunday started early |
| 20:47.00 | Schmock | doesnt matter... i'm going to download it |
| 20:47.10 | Wyzard | Schmock: and please don't try compiling it from source, unless you REALLY know what you're doing, and are prepared to deal with the fact that your system will be very different from anyone else's, and you won't be able to get help here for problems with your xorg |
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| 20:47.55 | Wyzard | Schmock: xorg is a large and complex package, and very many things depend on many differnet parts of it... if you try compiling it yourself, you will almost certainly have problems |
| 20:47.55 | diablo266 | hello everyone, i just installed debian sarge on a dual 2.8 xeon rig running at all stock speeds with the 2.6.8-2-686-smp kernel and X has been incredibly unstable sense the install, kde freezes randomly, apps within it freeze, gdm,kdm,gnome all suffer the instability.. i installed the latest nvidia drivers and enabled twinview as well, can anyone help a newb out? |
| 20:48.13 | Wyzard | diablo266: Sounds like overheating maybe |
| 20:48.19 | diablo266 | its watercooled |
| 20:48.22 | Wyzard | diablo266: I installed sarge on a similar system a few days ago and had no problems |
| 20:48.22 | diablo266 | running at 32C |
| 20:48.23 | Schmock | hmmmmm |
| 20:48.38 | drac | moty66: with Modeline? :) |
| 20:48.42 | Wyzard | Schmock: Just stick with sarge's xfree |
| 20:48.49 | websdale | yacyac:do you have a special reason for downloading the whole distro instead of just doing a net install? |
| 20:48.53 | diablo266 | i stayed up all night, reinstalled 5 times all with the same problem |
| 20:48.54 | abrotman | diablo266: ask #nvidia ? |
| 20:49.12 | cadu | is it true that xorg has a bunch of performance advantages over xfree? |
| 20:49.19 | cadu | i'm getting horrible framerates in Doom3 |
| 20:49.20 | diablo266 | i'll give it a shot, i just wasnt sure if it was an nvidia problem |
| 20:49.24 | Wyzard | abrotman: Yes, it does |
| 20:49.32 | drac | cadu: indeed it's true |
| 20:49.34 | yacyac | websdale |
| 20:49.36 | abrotman | Wyzard: ok |
| 20:49.47 | yacyac | i dont know .. one of my friend said download the testing dvd |
| 20:50.06 | nvz | oh well screw the key bindings |
| 20:50.16 | Wyzard | abrotman: At work I've set up a system using two dual-head Quadro cards on a dual-core Opteron |
| 20:50.17 | Radiance | hi, any one had any trouble lately install psybnc which complained about openssl binary not found while it's installed ? |
| 20:50.19 | Schmock | which xfree version comes with sarge? |
| 20:50.25 | drac | Schmock: 4.3 :/ |
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| 20:50.37 | cadu | drac: my system isn't a newegg dream system, but at least on windows it runs doom3 fairly smooth , with _some_ rare slow parts (Axp 2.6ghz+ , 512mb ram , geforce fx5200) ...but on sarge i'm getting _some_ fast parts :) |
| 20:50.41 | abrotman | Wyzard: can i work for your company? :) |
| 20:50.43 | Wyzard | Schmock: 4.3, the last version before they changed their license |
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| 20:50.44 | diablo266 | i am loading the sk98lin driver manually to enable my dlink 530T network card as well, could that have something to do with it? |
| 20:50.46 | cadu | drac: someone told me to switch to xorg |
| 20:50.55 | moty66 | drac, no, but I have changed the subsection of the monitor and added 1200x800 , thats all :) |
| 20:50.57 | Wyzard | abrotman: It's just for testing, not for actually doing my work on |
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| 20:51.05 | abrotman | Wyzard: poor you :) |
| 20:51.07 | luminousnerd | http://phazeman.mail333.com/Mondo_Rescue_CD_HOWTO.htm how would I do this with ubuntu's very lame clone of cdrecord? |
| 20:51.19 | nvz | Schmock: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 |
| 20:51.19 | drac | cadu: well, there is repositories for Sarge + X.org, you don't need upgrade to unstable.. |
| 20:51.22 | abrotman | luminousnerd: FFS .. ASK #UBUNTU |
| 20:51.25 | Schmock | is it really so difficult to install x.org? |
| 20:51.30 | cadu | drac: there are ? |
| 20:51.34 | abrotman | !sarge xorg |
| 20:51.35 | deadcat | !xorg debs |
| 20:51.36 | madclicker | chealer: what am I suppose to replace it with? |
| 20:51.37 | luminousnerd | abrotman, dude I'm asking everywhere! I'm desperate! |
| 20:51.39 | abrotman | !xorg sarge |
| 20:51.39 | dpkg | xorg sarge is, like, http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ for sarge backports of the xorg packages. Use at your own risk. |
| 20:51.40 | cadu | drac: but, won't my system be hosed or so ? |
| 20:51.43 | luminousnerd | This job is 3 weeks overdue. |
| 20:51.47 | joefso | xfree from sarge is way more stable then the xorg |
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| 20:51.53 | abrotman | luminousnerd: god damn it .. your problem is with ubuntu .. not debian FUCKING GO ASK THEM |
| 20:51.57 | luminousnerd | abrotman, and ubuntu's the only place I'm not asking because I'm banned. |
| 20:52.01 | cadu | abrotman: ahhhhhhhhhh! |
| 20:52.03 | cadu | abrotman: thanks ! |
| 20:52.05 | abrotman | luminousnerd: no shit .. i wonder why |
| 20:52.08 | drac | cadu: Probably not, but like dpkg said.. At your own risk. Mething it's worth it. |
| 20:52.14 | abrotman | luminousnerd: you're going to end up banned here too ... |
| 20:52.20 | abrotman | luminousnerd: either install debian .. or go away |
| 20:52.23 | drac | Methinks :) |
| 20:52.24 | luminousnerd | abrotman, I didn't do anything to cause me to be banned here or there. |
| 20:52.26 | cadu | luminousnerd: annoying prick ! |
| 20:52.31 | Shadowcat | !ubuntu |
| 20:52.31 | dpkg | [ubuntu] a see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu, or http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 or "Based on Debian" |
| 20:52.41 | Shadowcat | !based on debian |
| 20:52.41 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 20:52.47 | Wyzard | Schmock: If you have to ask, it probably is |
| 20:52.48 | luminousnerd | I'm BANNED, aight? |
| 20:52.50 | abrotman | luminousnerd: yes .. you are continuing to ask about ubuntu when it's OT .. and we've told you to go to #ubuntu .. ubuntu IS NOT debian |
| 20:52.56 | toresbe | luminousnerd: ...why are you banned? |
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| 20:52.59 | Shadowcat | luminousnerd is n=caller@64.122.17.74 * caller |
| 20:52.59 | Shadowcat | luminousnerd on #ubuntu #debian ##slackware ##linux #kubuntu |
| 20:53.03 | Shadowcat | doesn't look like you're banned to me |
| 20:53.05 | luminousnerd | abrotman, and I've told you I am banned! |
| 20:53.06 | abrotman | Shadowcat: +q ? |
| 20:53.11 | luminousnerd | Shadowcat, well, devoiced |
| 20:53.13 | Wyzard | Shadowcat: He's devoiced, not actually banned |
| 20:53.13 | luminousnerd | yes |
| 20:53.24 | cadu | what a blessing |
| 20:53.27 | abrotman | luminousnerd: so ask one of thier ops to -q you |
| 20:53.29 | cadu | !quake |
| 20:53.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, quake is one of the few decent games for linux! Test packages of quake (including glquake) are aptable from "deb http://www.debian.org/%7Eknghtbrd/ quake/" or game that makes you puke;; newbies' guide for quake here: http://www.cheatersguild.com/quake/strategyguide.htm |
| 20:53.31 | Shadowcat | well someone devoice him here too |
| 20:53.32 | toresbe | luminousnerd: what did you do to get you the +q? |
| 20:53.44 | luminousnerd | abrotman, tried that, no one can but bob2 and he's never on |
| 20:53.54 | abrotman | luminousnerd: guess what .. that doesn't mean you get to ask here |
| 20:53.58 | luminousnerd | toresbe, no idea, left the room with no problems, came back and I was q'd |
| 20:54.04 | nvz | bs, bob2 was on last night |
| 20:54.08 | Shadowcat | !channel |
| 20:54.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, channel is This refers to the group of resellers that supply most companies with software, hardware, and support. The channel is a force to be reckoned with, and it competes directly against companies like Gateway 2000 and Dell. A channel can also be a content container, like a television channel. You may be watching TV channels on the Internet someday. |
| 20:54.17 | Shadowcat | hmm.... |
| 20:54.19 | cadu | whoa |
| 20:54.24 | Shadowcat | !factinfo channel |
| 20:54.24 | dpkg | channel -- it has been requested 29 times, last by Shadowcat, 16s ago. |
| 20:54.25 | cadu | dpkg is better than Wikipedia |
| 20:54.31 | Shadowcat | who the hell set that |
| 20:54.37 | abrotman | luminousnerd: and guess what .. there are about 10 people with ops rights in #ubuntu |
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| 20:54.41 | abrotman | luminousnerd: ask one of them |
| 20:54.58 | luminousnerd | abrotman, and as I HAVE SAID, ONLY BOB2 CAN -Q ME AND HE'S NOT THERE! |
| 20:55.06 | Fanno | hmm by default when i go to http://localhost/ it "send me" to http://localhost/apache2-default/ insted of ie using the index.php i put in the web root folder. i looked in apache2.conf and i tryed to search on google. but i think my problem is i dont know what i should search for =( |
| 20:55.15 | luminousnerd | why are y ou being such a jerk?! |
| 20:55.20 | abrotman | luminousnerd: this is not the channel to ask about Ubuntu .. end of story |
| 20:55.21 | luminousnerd | I need a GENERAL linux help! |
| 20:55.23 | toresbe | luminousnerd: It's #debian. :P |
| 20:55.28 | luminousnerd | abrotman, I'm not asking about ubuntu. |
| 20:55.32 | luminousnerd | I'm asking about Linux. |
| 20:55.32 | toresbe | luminousnerd: what's your problem with? |
| 20:55.34 | cadu | luminousnerd: seriously, #linux |
| 20:55.34 | nvz | he was in here at like 1:40am my time which was about 15 hours ago |
| 20:55.35 | abrotman | luminousnerd: no .. you need ubuntu help .. if you want general linux help . go to ##linux |
| 20:55.37 | cadu | !linux |
| 20:55.37 | dpkg | it has been said that linux is closed |
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| 20:55.53 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: You ran into a problem that I've never seen in Debian... either it's a weird hardware thing, or it's an Ubuntu-specific problem |
| 20:55.55 | cadu | dpkg: linux is also #linux,a non-distro specific help channel |
| 20:55.55 | dpkg | cannot alter locked factoids, cadu |
| 20:55.56 | jkaufman | luminousnerd: what exactly do you want abrotman to do about it, he gave a suggestion and thats it man, we can do anything about what another chan does |
| 20:56.05 | cadu | nice |
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| 20:56.14 | groogs | anyone know of some decent software to manage a CA? (besides openssl commandline..) |
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| 20:56.15 | a_arcane | What is the likely problem when im using ypcat passwd and im not getting any output. passwd is included in my nis server. It doesnt complain on not finding a map or server or anything. It just doesnt give any output at all. |
| 20:56.21 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Try to find out more about what kind of burner you have |
| 20:56.30 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: whether it shows up in /proc/ide, etc. |
| 20:56.31 | dererk | I'm in a hurry and I need help! |
| 20:56.33 | paulproteus|jhu | a_arcane, does "id $username" work? |
| 20:56.36 | abrotman | !hurry |
| 20:56.36 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 20:57.01 | pngwn | dererk, will that be visa or mastercard? |
| 20:57.02 | yacyac | how do i come to know how much i have completed in jigdo |
| 20:57.10 | a_arcane | paulproteus|jhu, you mean like "ypcat id username passwd"? |
| 20:57.10 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, there is also easily a possiblity that it is a prob with the program |
| 20:57.18 | cadu | luminousnerd: run this.. "dmesg | more" or "dmesg | less" and search for your burner entry |
| 20:57.22 | paulproteus|jhu | luminousnerd, Hey, I see your shouting. What's up? :) |
| 20:57.24 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, all I know is /dev/hdc is the device. |
| 20:57.29 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: I have an ATAPI burnder and I can burn CDs successfully |
| 20:57.31 | abrotman | luminousnerd: which ISN"T IN DEBIAN ... you're using ubuntu .. FFS .. |
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| 20:57.37 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: Then try "dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc" |
| 20:57.37 | dererk | Does anybody know why could a interfase set up creating the "wlan" iface ??? |
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| 20:57.47 | dererk | It's a usb Wifi nic! |
| 20:57.51 | luminousnerd | paulproteus|jhu, huh? |
| 20:57.53 | cadu | luminousnerd: ricer :) |
| 20:58.08 | dererk | Please... It's really important!!! |
| 20:58.12 | abrotman | cadu: not nice |
| 20:58.22 | cadu | abrotman: could you please excuse me? |
| 20:58.23 | abrotman | dererk: huh ? |
| 20:58.25 | paulproteus|jhu | dererk, What do you mean "a interface set up creating the 'wlan' iface"? |
| 20:58.26 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, dude |
| 20:58.31 | paulproteus|jhu | dererk, It doesn't make any sense to me. |
| 20:58.32 | luminousnerd | Wyzard, you told me to do that a lot already |
| 20:58.37 | luminousnerd | it does the same thing |
| 20:58.41 | cadu | abrotman: just because you're the #debian ubergod doesn't means you're the only able to bash people, period ;) |
| 20:58.48 | dererk | Sorry I'm trying to speak english us fast asI can |
| 20:58.51 | dererk | I mean |
| 20:58.52 | paulproteus|jhu | luminousnerd, by using so many caps above, you're shouting. I'm in a generous mood, so I'm asking what the trouble is. :) |
| 20:58.53 | cadu | abrotman: let the mortals live a bit too :) |
| 20:58.54 | abrotman | cadu: i didn't make a racist comment |
| 20:58.59 | yacyac | how do i come to know how much i have completed in jigdo |
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| 20:59.05 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 20:59.06 | abrotman | cadu: and i'm far from god .. i'm not even op :) |
| 20:59.08 | cadu | abrotman: i'm brazillian, sorry, i didn't knew ricer was racist :) |
| 20:59.12 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: If it's an IDE burner on /dev/hdc, then "dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc" is the correct thing to do under your 2.6 kernel... my burner is also on /dev/hdc, and works just fine that way |
| 20:59.18 | abrotman | cadu: what did you think it was ? |
| 20:59.23 | cadu | abrotman: maybe i don't know the subleties of the 'ricer' term |
| 20:59.24 | dererk | When you put a nic into a hotplug (like pcmcia or usb) I creates the interface which refers to it |
| 20:59.28 | Wyzard | luminousnerd: If it doesn't work for you, either your hardware is broken, it's not connected the way you think it is, or it's an Ubuntu-specific problem |
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| 20:59.33 | abrotman | cadu: then why would you call him that ? |
| 20:59.42 | cadu | abrotman: well, for me, ricer means a person that likes to spice up gentoo $USE flags, or hyped distro user, etc |
| 20:59.43 | Wyzard | dererk: The interface is created when you load the driver module for it |
| 20:59.44 | dererk | But in this case I didn't happen |
| 20:59.49 | toresbe | abrotman: i wasn't aware that "ricer" was racist |
| 20:59.53 | cadu | abrotman: the _hyped_ distro |
| 21:00.00 | Wyzard | dererk: hotplug normally loads modules when you plug in a device, but it won't if no driver is available |
| 21:00.01 | dererk | The module is already loaded |
| 21:00.04 | abrotman | cadu: right .. but he didn't say anything about gentoo |
| 21:00.06 | cadu | abrotman: see? no'one is aware of that :) unless you explain it to mee :) |
| 21:00.07 | yacyac | Wyzard this iso will be a bootable right |
| 21:00.11 | Wyzard | yacyac: yes |
| 21:00.15 | cadu | abrotman: but ubuntu is as hyped as gentoo :) |
| 21:00.22 | yacyac | Wyzard how will i know how much is completed and how much remaining |
| 21:00.26 | abrotman | cadu: i thought you had mapped out his IP as asian .. i'm sorry |
| 21:00.29 | bucky | i thought ricer was a japanese car driver with hot pink windshield wipers |
| 21:00.31 | joefso | I'm searching for a program that allows me to connect to my debian box and I wish to use X11 protocol withit, it must be acccesable with windows programs |
| 21:00.35 | cadu | abrotman: ricer means 'asian'? |
| 21:00.47 | Wyzard | yacyac: I don't think it provides a progress display, unfortunately |
| 21:00.52 | yacyac | oh |
| 21:00.58 | abrotman | cadu: it can .. i've heard it used that way .. and not nicely :) |
| 21:01.01 | dererk | dmesg say "device not accepting address 4, error -110" |
| 21:01.14 | dererk | control timeot on ep0out |
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| 21:01.21 | dererk | Ideas? |
| 21:01.23 | cadu | abrotman: well thanks for telling me, i won't use it ...in fact, i'm married with a japanese :) heheheh |
| 21:01.25 | gentgeen__ | This is funny, I always heard ricer as a "rice burner" ie racing bike |
| 21:01.33 | Wyzard | joefso: If you want to run X programs remotely on a Debian system and have them display on your Windows system, use Cygwin's SSH and X server |
| 21:01.38 | abrotman | cadu: yeah .. don't use that in the morning :) |
| 21:01.47 | Wyzard | joefso: (Or some other SSH client, and/or some other X server such as X-Win32) |
| 21:01.52 | cadu | abrotman: or i won't have where to sleep next night , hahahahaha |
| 21:01.53 | bucky | it can mean overclocker also |
| 21:01.53 | paulproteus|jhu | cadu, we can only hope your spouse doesn't use Gentoo |
| 21:02.02 | cadu | paulproteus|jhu: nah, she isn't a ricer :) HAAHHAAHAH |
| 21:02.13 | groogs | joefso: or just use VNC |
| 21:02.13 | dererk | abrotman, paulproteus|jhu, Wyzard ??? |
| 21:02.20 | cadu | man that really surprised me...ricer = asian...geez |
| 21:02.31 | abrotman | cadu: sorry to jump down your throat .. i thought you were using it as a slur |
| 21:02.55 | dererk | Any ideas... please... I'm a really big trouble here :-| |
| 21:03.05 | websdale | cadu:I thought a ricer was a thing you push potatoes through |
| 21:03.07 | cadu | abrotman: and i'm sorry to bug one of the most known #debian ubergods :) i thought you were going to d-line me |
| 21:03.11 | Wyzard | dererk: Probably a bug in the driver or something, or a mismatch between the driver and the hardware... I've never seen a message like that before |
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| 21:03.16 | gentgeen__ | dererk, did you try google? |
| 21:03.28 | abrotman | cadu: i'm not god .. i'm not op .. i can do no such thing |
| 21:03.28 | paulproteus|jhu | dererk, my printer says that when it goes on the fritz |
| 21:03.36 | gentgeen__ | www.google.com/linux and enter in you hardware for the search term |
| 21:03.42 | dererk | gentgeen__, Of course I did... nothing turns up with that error |
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| 21:03.59 | dererk | :-\ |
| 21:04.04 | cadu | abrotman: just a question |
| 21:04.08 | dererk | It DID work in the pas |
| 21:04.09 | dererk | t |
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| 21:04.14 | cadu | abrotman: nigger between black persons is racist too ? |
| 21:04.14 | abrotman | cadu: ? |
| 21:04.26 | abrotman | cadu: that's a horrible word .. no matter who uses it .. IMO anyways |
| 21:04.27 | gentgeen__ | I just mean the hardware, arn't you looking for the device name (like eth0 kind of thing)? |
| 21:04.29 | cadu | coz i've seen a buncha black guys calling each other 'nigger' and laughing |
| 21:04.31 | gentgeen__ | if not, I appologize |
| 21:04.36 | phillipsjk | dererk: I have no experience with wireless or hotpug, but is the access point on? |
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| 21:04.50 | flexo | does debootstrap cache the stuff it downloads somewhere? |
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| 21:04.56 | Wyzard | dererk: Then look at things that have changed between now and the time when it worked |
| 21:05.00 | dererk | phillipsjk, No... its a nic wifi |
| 21:05.00 | gentgeen__ | When white use the word it is nigger, when black to black it is Nigger |
| 21:05.07 | cadu | i work at a hotel and i see people from everywhere, those were some americans :) |
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| 21:05.12 | gentgeen__ | term of respect for black to black |
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| 21:05.20 | cadu | gentgeen__: got it |
| 21:05.21 | dererk | Wyzard, nothing at all |
| 21:05.28 | abrotman | dererk: which wifi card/chipset/driver ? |
| 21:05.32 | gentgeen__ | well, not exactly respect -- friendship it prob. better |
| 21:05.36 | Gospel | im wanting to start using Debian! can someone recommend a beginners guide to Debian? |
| 21:05.42 | abrotman | cadu: never use that word .. |
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| 21:06.01 | Wyzard | dererk: No idea then, sorry |
| 21:06.03 | dererk | abrotman, I don't understand what you mean ... it's a wifi nic usb |
| 21:06.03 | abrotman | gentgeen__: i think you're wrong .. it's just a bad word .. |
| 21:06.10 | abrotman | dererk: there we go :) |
| 21:06.11 | dererk | Wyzard, np thanks anyway |
| 21:06.11 | Wyzard | dererk: Broken hardware maybe? |
| 21:06.18 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, less you are black .... otherwise just REALLY unsafe to use |
| 21:06.22 | dererk | Wyzard, hope not |
| 21:06.32 | abrotman | gentgeen__: shouldn't use it .. under any circumstance ... |
| 21:06.40 | dererk | I'va the same drivers running in other pc and work perfectly good |
| 21:06.41 | dererk | :-\ |
| 21:06.44 | abrotman | gentgeen__: just my opinion |
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| 21:07.05 | gentgeen__ | on a personal level, I agree with you abrotman |
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| 21:07.51 | gentgeen__ | just stating what I know -- black to black using the word means they have taken ownership of the word, and therefore is not derogatory (sp?) |
| 21:08.20 | abrotman | gentgeen__: i think it depends who you ask .. |
| 21:08.24 | gentgeen__ | kind of like if some strange came and called you a geek, you prob. be offended, but if another tech person calls you a geek it is a compliment |
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| 21:09.09 | gentgeen__ | That is what I understand from asking around. I worked in an inter-city school for a long time |
| 21:09.20 | gentgeen__ | felt safe asking only after a while :-) |
| 21:09.26 | abrotman | gentgeen__: i tell people i'm a professional geek :) |
| 21:09.31 | gentgeen__ | lol |
| 21:09.32 | euphor][a | how to install artwiz fonts? |
| 21:09.34 | frehfreh | anyone with a poweredge 2300 around? |
| 21:09.56 | abrotman | frehfreh: why? |
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| 21:10.03 | TiTAN_pi8 | hello |
| 21:10.04 | gentgeen__ | euphor][a, apt-get install xfonts-artwiz |
| 21:10.04 | x-Al1gma | hello TiTAN_pi8 |
| 21:10.21 | euphor][a | gentgeen__, done, but they don't appear available in X ? |
| 21:10.28 | TiTAN_pi8 | can anybody tell me how to force xfree86 to use a specified refresh rate? |
| 21:11.10 | frehfreh | abrotman because the perc raid controller sucks |
| 21:11.12 | frehfreh | :/ |
| 21:11.13 | gentgeen__ | euphor][a, not sure then, check font server confs? maybe restart font server/severs |
| 21:11.20 | abrotman | frehfreh: perc or cerc ? |
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| 21:11.22 | frehfreh | unable to add a mbr. |
| 21:11.23 | frehfreh | perc |
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| 21:11.31 | abrotman | frehfreh: my PERC works fine ... |
| 21:11.36 | euphor][a | gentgeen__, okay, there's no deb font tool then? |
| 21:11.37 | frehfreh | well so does mine |
| 21:11.39 | phillipsjk | TiTAN_pi8 : comment out all competing modelines in the appropriate file? (/etc/X11) |
| 21:11.45 | frehfreh | but it's a pain in the ass now abrotman |
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| 21:11.59 | abrotman | frehfreh: uhm .. if you say so .. i don't have any problems with mine .. but it's older |
| 21:12.09 | gentgeen__ | defoma is, but I really don't use it/understand it |
| 21:12.16 | frehfreh | abrotman I low level formatted two disks, made a raid 1 array .. tried to install whatever os on it .. no go |
| 21:12.19 | phillipsjk | TiTAN_pi8 : is the rate too high or low? |
| 21:12.24 | frehfreh | two new drives, new scsi cable |
| 21:12.26 | frehfreh | nada |
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| 21:12.33 | gentgeen__ | I am pretty hit/miss - trial/error when it comes to fonts |
| 21:12.40 | abrotman | frehfreh: what about as single drives? |
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| 21:12.42 | Carla | hola |
| 21:12.48 | TiTAN_pi8 | philipsjk, : i don't have any modelines. do they even exist when using xfree86 v4? |
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| 21:12.57 | frehfreh | abrotman single drives work fine WITHOUT the controller |
| 21:12.57 | phillipsjk | ? |
| 21:12.59 | frehfreh | abrt |
| 21:13.22 | abrotman | frehfreh: and with the controller ? |
| 21:13.31 | frehfreh | abrotman any idea on how to set the PERC raid controller as a second boot device instead of first on the poweredge 2300? |
| 21:13.31 | Carla | dnehefowrhagvwa |
| 21:13.33 | Carla | hvuegh9eahg |
| 21:13.34 | Carla | iheogwa |
| 21:13.36 | Carla | ujhruiwghouierhg |
| 21:13.36 | euphor][a | ok i'm off to watch 24, enuff |
| 21:13.40 | Carla | jriowegh9weurhturhoghowrhgiwerhottwgjp |
| 21:13.43 | drac | Carla: Calm down. |
| 21:13.45 | Carla | hfuwirrrojoieutgowqkgoekqpwgjy0pwjhfipwhgggt0jpiwrhth |
| 21:13.48 | deadcat | !ops Carla spamming |
| 21:13.48 | frehfreh | abrotman I have two controllers ... both the same |
| 21:13.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: Carla spamming |
| 21:13.51 | phillipsjk | TiTAN_pi8 : if the rate is too low, it is limited by your monitor settings. (modelines have to be store somewhere.) |
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| 21:14.26 | deadcat | helix: is there some alert you get when we !ops? |
| 21:14.29 | SJr|Tecra | How do I change what exim is sending in a HELO request? |
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| 21:14.46 | TiTAN_pi8 | philipsjk : i thought you only needed to add modelines to your xf86config when using version 3 of xfree86 (i am using version 4) |
| 21:14.46 | gentgeen__ | Why would anyone do that (Carla) that was just stupid |
| 21:15.00 | cadu | gentgeen__: 1-Argentina :) |
| 21:15.00 | TiTAN_pi8 | philipsjk, i will add the correct modeline |
| 21:15.01 | cadu | hehehehe |
| 21:15.02 | paulproteus|jhu | gentgeen__, Perhaps some friends took over the computer and mashed the keyboard |
| 21:15.02 | cadu | sorry |
| 21:15.09 | abrotman | duh . it was a cat |
| 21:15.10 | cadu | i'm brazillian , i'm just distilling my hatred :) |
| 21:15.13 | frehfreh | abrotman still around? |
| 21:15.25 | helix | deadcat: yes, it's called nick hilighting |
| 21:15.42 | abrotman | frehfreh: sure |
| 21:15.46 | abrotman | deadcat: like that! |
| 21:15.49 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, did not think of that -- my cat has done that too now that you mention it |
| 21:15.50 | abrotman | deadcat: and this! |
| 21:15.52 | deadcat | helix: ya. but i assume most of the time you guys are away from the terminal.. i figure theres like a BEEP or something |
| 21:15.55 | phillipsjk | TiTAN_pi8 : I Don't claim to be an expert. |
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| 21:16.11 | abrotman | deadcat: obviously .. she has a pager to get op alerts :) |
| 21:16.11 | frehfreh | abrotman any idea on how to set the PERC raid controller as a second boot device instead of first on the poweredge 2300? |
| 21:16.21 | deadcat | abrotman: batman style (= |
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| 21:16.29 | abrotman | frehfreh: what other devices do youhave ? |
| 21:16.44 | helix | deadcat: some of us have our irc clients configured to beep on nick hilight |
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| 21:16.53 | frehfreh | abrotman the onboard raI |
| 21:17.01 | frehfreh | err onboard scsi |
| 21:17.04 | deadcat | helix: ah.. nice nice. |
| 21:17.05 | TiTAN_pi8 | philipsjk, neither am I :). But i think you are right, i am trying your solution |
| 21:17.12 | Gospel | hello everyone |
| 21:17.14 | TiTAN_pi8 | have to restart x, cu in a minute |
| 21:17.22 | gentgeen__ | TiTAN_pi8, did you try just setting the specific rate instead of a range? |
| 21:17.27 | abrotman | frehfreh: hrm .. i don't have a 2300 .. but i would imagine you should be able to set boot device priority in the bios |
| 21:17.46 | Gospel | is this channel focused on experienced Debian users only? Or can Debian and Linux newbies also become actively involved in the channel? |
| 21:18.11 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, join in .... :-) |
| 21:18.16 | abrotman | Gospel: it's for debian support mostly .. at any level(though at advanced levels .. you may have to be patient) |
| 21:18.27 | phillipsjk | Gospel: I'm a newbie with 5years of experience :) |
| 21:18.46 | gentgeen__ | and as a newbie, you have to be patient to put up some of the crap ;-) |
| 21:18.54 | abrotman | what crap ? |
| 21:19.02 | cadu | i'm a newbie, debian user since 2001 :) |
| 21:19.10 | cadu | linux user since 1998 :_) |
| 21:19.12 | cadu | proudly happy |
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| 21:19.26 | TiTaN_pi8 | mmh it didn't work |
| 21:19.27 | deadcat | cadu: we dont need to know. stop bragging |
| 21:19.32 | TiTaN_pi8 | i will google for it |
| 21:19.33 | cadu | deadcat: i'm not bragging |
| 21:19.37 | deadcat | cadu: yes you are |
| 21:19.42 | phillipsjk | <gentgeen__> TiTAN_pi8, did you try just setting the specific rate instead of a range? |
| 21:19.46 | cadu | heheheh |
| 21:19.52 | cadu | deadcat: annoying prick :( |
| 21:19.59 | deadcat | cadu: what the fuck! |
| 21:20.08 | gentgeen__ | thanks phillipsjk -- I was just about to paste that |
| 21:20.14 | cadu | deadcat: annoying pottymouth prick ;) |
| 21:20.32 | dererk | I found the problem but I reach another problem.... the Documentation says I must patch kernel |
| 21:20.33 | phillipsjk | I love 3-click copy-paste :) |
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| 21:20.46 | deadcat | cadu: all i said was "what the fuck!" (= hahah |
| 21:20.50 | Gospel | gentgeen__, thank you :) |
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| 21:20.53 | TiTaN_pi8 | philipsjk, yes i did. but i think i found the problem with the modeline, i have a syntax error i think. i'm checking it out |
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| 21:21.21 | gentgeen__ | I hate when I go back to my Win box at work and press down on the wheel to paste. |
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| 21:21.34 | Gospel | im at the moment using Simply Mepis, but I want to toss that and start using Debian! Will it be hard for me to change over to Debian from Simply Mepis? |
| 21:21.40 | codemaster_ | hi all |
| 21:21.41 | abrotman | gentgeen__: you could configure it to paste |
| 21:21.49 | abrotman | !d-i Gospel |
| 21:21.49 | dpkg | Gospel, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:21.52 | Gospel | codemaster_, hello |
| 21:21.53 | gentgeen__ | Pasting in windows always ends up taking x2 as long for me -- I do the linux way first, then do the win. way |
| 21:21.56 | abrotman | Gospel: and then you're good :) |
| 21:22.00 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, in windows? |
| 21:22.05 | abrotman | gentgeen__: yes |
| 21:22.07 | dererk | But when I put patch -p1 patch file... and I doesn't work |
| 21:22.14 | gentgeen__ | but would it copy when you highlight> |
| 21:22.15 | Gospel | abrotman, ok thank you |
| 21:22.17 | abrotman | gentgeen__: depending on the mouse/control pane app |
| 21:22.17 | gentgeen__ | ? |
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| 21:22.31 | abrotman | gentgeen__: uhm .. no .. but at least you could paste :) |
| 21:22.42 | Gospel | abrotman, so I should be able to se Debian, even though I only ever used mepis? |
| 21:22.45 | codemaster_ | !Camera |
| 21:22.48 | drac | dererk: patch -p1 < file.patch, don't miss a < ;) |
| 21:22.49 | Gospel | se = use |
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| 21:23.01 | dererk | I see drac ... |
| 21:23.05 | abrotman | Gospel: we have people that come here that get debian isntalled that have never used linux :) |
| 21:23.09 | dererk | drac, Thks |
| 21:23.17 | abrotman | Gospel: you just have to be willing to read/learn .. and we'll help if we can :) |
| 21:23.20 | gentgeen__ | right ... my big prob is I foget that I have to "copy", ctrl-v, etc. |
| 21:23.23 | Gospel | abrotman, great :) |
| 21:23.24 | TiTaN_pi8 | the x server now startx with the modelines present in xf86config-4 but i still can not raise the resolution |
| 21:23.26 | codemaster_ | !get my fu... picts from my damn cam |
| 21:23.29 | codemaster_ | lol |
| 21:23.36 | TiTaN_pi8 | arr raise the refresh rate i mean |
| 21:23.38 | deadcat | i wonder how a AOL user's college term paper looks like. (= |
| 21:23.44 | Gospel | abrotman, thanks! my first step is to install latest Debian then. :) |
| 21:23.48 | gentgeen__ | TiTaN_pi8, what WM are you using? |
| 21:24.02 | gentgeen__ | some config allow you to change it via gui |
| 21:24.04 | abrotman | Gospel: we recommend you start with sarge |
| 21:24.11 | abrotman | or .. I do anyways :) |
| 21:24.11 | TiTaN_pi8 | WM and gnome |
| 21:24.13 | TiTaN_pi8 | shit |
| 21:24.19 | TiTaN_pi8 | kde and gnome i mean |
| 21:24.33 | deadcat | TiTaN_pi8: how the f. its either one or the other. |
| 21:24.40 | Gospel | abrotman, ok |
| 21:24.42 | drac | TiTaN_pi8: Open terminal, and type "xrandr" there and you'll see available resolutions/rates. If they are not there, there is still something wrong with your config. |
| 21:24.44 | codemaster_ | anyone knows how to get pict from a cam in sarge or how to mount usb sticks ? |
| 21:24.49 | abrotman | Gospel: you do have broadband .. right ? |
| 21:24.57 | abrotman | !tell codemaster_ about usbstorage |
| 21:24.59 | deadcat | codemaster_: you can use gphoto2 |
| 21:25.04 | abrotman | darn it |
| 21:25.07 | abrotman | !tell codemaster_ about usb storage |
| 21:25.13 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 21:25.16 | Gospel | abrotman, modem :) but I can get debian on CD from my newsagent |
| 21:25.23 | TiTaN_pi8 | deadcat, currently i am using gnome, but i also have kde installed ;). |
| 21:25.28 | codemaster_ | abrotman, he doesn't |
| 21:25.29 | TiTaN_pi8 | drac, thx i will try |
| 21:25.29 | deadcat | abrotman: your factoid skill is getting weaker!! |
| 21:25.30 | abrotman | Gospel: but that will take .. days |
| 21:25.37 | abrotman | !tell codemaster_ about usb-storage |
| 21:25.41 | Gospel | abrotman, yes |
| 21:25.42 | abrotman | deadcat: yeah .. well .. |
| 21:25.50 | abrotman | Gospel: no .. really .. days .. weeks .. |
| 21:25.56 | codemaster_ | owkeey thnxs |
| 21:26.02 | abrotman | Gospel: do you have a friend with broadband ? |
| 21:26.08 | TiTaN_pi8 | nope, the resolution and refresh rate i want are still not available... |
| 21:26.16 | TiTaN_pi8 | i can only go up to 85hz :( |
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| 21:26.38 | abrotman | Gospel: or would you be willing to buy them? |
| 21:26.49 | Gospel | abrotman, yes i would but it |
| 21:26.54 | Gospel | buy it |
| 21:26.58 | phillipsjk | TiTaN_pi8: when X set up was asking about you monitor, what did you tell it? |
| 21:26.59 | abrotman | Gospel: uhm .. |
| 21:27.04 | abrotman | Gospel: where are you .. generally? |
| 21:27.11 | Gospel | abrotman, from Australia |
| 21:27.23 | abrotman | hrm .. anyone know a retailer thatships from .au ? |
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| 21:27.34 | phillipsjk | !tell TiTaN_pi8 troubleshooting x |
| 21:27.34 | abrotman | speaking of .. where's cafuego ? |
| 21:27.38 | drac | TiTaN_pi8: There is only X's config you must "fix" for more higher refresh rate, forget about the WM you are running -- not relavent. Maybe you should upload that config at pastebin.com? |
| 21:27.50 | abrotman | Gospel: i know linuxcentral sells them .. but i doubt tthey ship from .au |
| 21:27.53 | TiTaN_pi8 | philipsjk, I modified my xf86config myself... vertical refresh: 48-160 (according to my monitors specs) |
| 21:27.55 | Gospel | abrotman, ok |
| 21:27.59 | carambol | the latest Linuxformat has a coverdiscs of sarge |
| 21:28.17 | Gospel | carambol, cool |
| 21:28.18 | carambol | www.linuxformat.com |
| 21:28.18 | TiTaN_pi8 | drac, I know the XF86config is the same for all wm's. I will check out pastebin |
| 21:28.24 | abrotman | Gospel: give me a moment |
| 21:28.29 | Gospel | abrotman, ok |
| 21:28.35 | abrotman | Gospel: http://www.us.debian.org/CD/vendors/index.en-gb.html#au |
| 21:28.42 | Gospel | abrotman, ok thanks |
| 21:28.45 | Gospel | brb |
| 21:28.46 | drac | TiTaN_pi8: XF86Config-4, not XF86Config (It's not being used) -- You probably meaned it but just making sure. |
| 21:28.54 | TiTaN_pi8 | drac, yes that is true |
| 21:29.09 | TiTaN_pi8 | drac, i do not have anything wrong in my config file i think |
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| 21:29.49 | rapt0r | i wanna buy a domain for 10 years, where can i get a special price for such prepay ??? not only .com, .us etc are cool too! |
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| 21:30.02 | TiTaN_pi8 | drac, the reason that these higher resolutions can't be accessed is because my monitors tells xfree that the default refresh rate for that resolution is 85hz, but i CAN go higher... |
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| 21:30.13 | TiTaN_pi8 | i will show you a pdf spec, hold on |
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| 21:31.20 | drac | TiTaN_pi8: DDC is probably overriding your HorizSync/VertRefresh settings. I'd look for solution how to disable DDC, usually done in Section "Device", with an Option, depending on driver. |
| 21:31.31 | phillipsjk | TiTaN_pi8 for very high resolutions, you have to drop the refresh rate: the dotclock limit becomes important. you may also be limited by the video card. |
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| 21:32.08 | gentgeen__ | TiTaN_pi8, how much over 85 can the monitor accaully go though? I have seen where going too much over the default accually makes things worse |
| 21:32.40 | TiTaN_pi8 | philipsjk, i do not think it is my vid card. 1200x1024 x 100hz should not be a problem. i want 1600x1200 x 98hz (monitors max refresh at native resolution) but it is possible my vid card does not support it |
| 21:32.56 | TiTaN_pi8 | drac, i will try that |
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| 21:33.31 | phillipsjk | dotclock= total pixels on screenXrefresh rate. |
| 21:34.05 | phillipsjk | there may be overhead I don't know about. |
| 21:34.08 | RvGaTe | !screenshot |
| 21:34.08 | dpkg | screenshot is probably 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 21:34.22 | lindenle | /set |
| 21:34.27 | lindenle | /set NOVICE off |
| 21:34.28 | TiTaN_pi8 | philipsjk, i am sure it is not my vid card that is the limiting factor |
| 21:34.39 | paulproteus|jhu | JPG screenshots are evil. |
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| 21:34.58 | phillipsjk | TiTaN_pi8 I believe you :) |
| 21:35.07 | TiTaN_pi8 | :) |
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| 21:37.44 | philips | I compiled up mplayerplug-in and it seg faults after I try to start a video for a second time. Does anyone have any recommendations on getting mplayerplug-in or another firefox plugin to work under Debian Testing? |
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| 21:38.23 | TiTaN_pi8 | disabling ddc didn't do the trick :( |
| 21:38.30 | Wyzard | philips: Rather than compiling it yourself, why not install the "mozilla-mplayer" package from marillat? |
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| 21:39.56 | TiTaN_pi8 | i think i've got it by looking at the xfree86 logs |
| 21:40.08 | philips | Wyzard: I just saw that, I am trying it now |
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| 21:41.41 | cadu | !bored |
| 21:41.42 | theblue_ | Hi all. |
| 21:41.44 | JaneLame | even* |
| 21:41.48 | theblue_ | Do I need a TFTP server to use netinst? |
| 21:41.48 | JaneLame | !bored |
| 21:41.54 | abrotman | apt-get install enigma |
| 21:41.57 | abrotman | boredom solved |
| 21:42.02 | JaneLame | heh. |
| 21:42.03 | RvGaTe | whats that :P |
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| 21:42.05 | JaneLame | okie dokie |
| 21:42.08 | lars^ | Is there a program to read pdf files in console? |
| 21:42.08 | RvGaTe | !enigma |
| 21:42.08 | abrotman | !info enigma |
| 21:42.11 | dpkg | enigma: (A game where you control a marble with the mouse), section games, is optional. Version: 0.92-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1399 kB, Installed size: 4288 kB |
| 21:42.14 | JaneLame | !enigma |
| 21:42.25 | RvGaTe | aarg, damn, i dont have a gui on my debian :( |
| 21:42.33 | JaneLame | does enigma require x11? i'm sshing from work |
| 21:42.37 | JaneLame | work sucks big time |
| 21:42.38 | RvGaTe | lol |
| 21:42.55 | nvz | lame and bored. |
| 21:42.56 | abrotman | JaneLame: apt-get install robotfindskitten |
| 21:43.00 | nvz | what a combination |
| 21:43.03 | RvGaTe | if you didn't install a gui, your work would be more interesting JaneLame |
| 21:43.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: what tarzeau thing? |
| 21:43.15 | JaneLame | lame and bored indeed. |
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| 21:43.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: dphys |
| 21:43.22 | JaneLame | wtf is robotfindskitten? |
| 21:43.30 | JaneLame | !robotfindskitten |
| 21:43.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: found it? it has an addition called dphys-config that's also great |
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| 21:43.47 | RvGaTe | http://www.koreus.com/files/200502/dj.html <- no more bored.. for a while |
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| 21:44.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: it was for someone else |
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| 21:44.18 | ESTEBENZ | www.CalideRumba.com |
| 21:44.32 | JaneLame | i'm so sick of providing tech support to the mentally retarded clients of this idiotic ISP. |
| 21:44.33 | RvGaTe | the last link i gave comes from a dutch guy |
| 21:44.34 | drac | !ops remove ESTEBENZ, Spamming on channel. |
| 21:44.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: remove ESTEBENZ, Spamming on channel. |
| 21:44.53 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 21:44.54 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@200.24.127.19] by helix |
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| 21:44.54 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 21:44.58 | drac | Thanks. |
| 21:45.10 | RvGaTe | posting 1 link is spam ? |
| 21:45.12 | JaneLame | some people should have their computer confiscated in order to stop computer illiteracy from spreading |
| 21:45.15 | RvGaTe | or did he posted more ? |
| 21:45.26 | deadcat | helix: do you /lastlog on the person then ban or just ban? |
| 21:45.32 | streuner | helix: did you enjoy your trip in france? |
| 21:45.32 | helix | depends |
| 21:45.41 | drac | RvGaTe: You think that link was related to his question.. no wait.. he didn't ask anything. |
| 21:45.41 | helix | sometimes I /lastlog them if it's not obvious what the problem is |
| 21:45.48 | helix | streuner: I didn't go to france |
| 21:45.49 | deadcat | ah. |
| 21:45.56 | RvGaTe | oooh, ok |
| 21:45.58 | streuner | helix: oh |
| 21:46.01 | philips | Wyzard: It still seg faults. Any other ideas? |
| 21:46.12 | philips | Wyzard: I am using mplayer from nerim.net |
| 21:46.14 | JaneLame | helix : take me with you |
| 21:46.22 | cadu | !info ddrmat-source |
| 21:46.24 | dpkg | ddrmat-source: (Linux kernel driver for using Playstation dancing mats (source)), section misc, is extra. Version: 0.12-1 (sid), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 56 kB |
| 21:46.33 | helix | JaneLame: my next trip is to california. you can come |
| 21:46.45 | JaneLame | sure. |
| 21:46.50 | deadcat | JaneLame: you pay for your own plain ticket (= |
| 21:46.53 | deadcat | plane |
| 21:46.57 | JaneLame | waita sec |
| 21:47.05 | JaneLame | ... |
| 21:47.22 | deadcat | helix: which part of CA? |
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| 21:47.32 | JaneLame | can i swim all the way there or something instead |
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| 21:47.40 | helix | deadcat: LA |
| 21:47.45 | deadcat | helix: cool. |
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| 21:48.14 | tarzeau | RvGaTe: it can be depending on the link |
| 21:48.22 | RvGaTe | sorry ? |
| 21:48.45 | streuner | s/a/an/ |
| 21:48.48 | deadcat | streuner: hahah. |
| 21:48.59 | streuner | deadcat: well :-) |
| 21:49.14 | deadcat | streuner: thats the movie with jamie fox and tom cruise right? |
| 21:49.38 | streuner | deadcat: yeah, 'Vincent' didn't like LA much... ;-) |
| 21:49.44 | deadcat | oh ya |
| 21:50.07 | subgv | anyone know if voodoo3 supports OpenGL? |
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| 21:50.18 | abrotman | subgv: i think it has it's own gl lib |
| 21:50.19 | zered | Hi everybody |
| 21:50.31 | zered | How can I reconfigure network on my Debian ? |
| 21:50.37 | abrotman | !glide |
| 21:50.37 | dpkg | from memory, glide is a library for using 3dfx hardware, it's opensource and available at glide.sourceforge.net. In debian there are glide2x (for use with device3dfx) and glide3x (for use with X4/dri) debs available. |
| 21:50.40 | drac | subgv: It sure does. |
| 21:50.45 | zered | I was in static and now I have to be in dhcp |
| 21:50.46 | drac | abrotman: Voodoo 3 uses tdfx, not glide. |
| 21:50.56 | streuner | zered: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 21:51.02 | abrotman | 3dfx is voodoo3 .. that's all i know :) |
| 21:51.11 | subgv | hahha |
| 21:51.13 | zered | streuner, hi. |
| 21:51.23 | zered | streuner, you mean : dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 21:51.30 | drac | Voodoo 1 and 2 uses glide, but that's changed also now (in X.org HEAD), thanks to new driver. |
| 21:51.42 | streuner | zered: no, just type that into your irc-client |
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| 21:52.03 | subgv | drac: so voodoo3 in xorg uses tdfx? just to make sure |
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| 21:52.09 | zered | ok. |
| 21:52.10 | drac | subgv: yup |
| 21:52.11 | zered | and ? |
| 21:52.13 | Wyzard | Glide is a 3D API, not a driver |
| 21:52.15 | cadu | zered: sacarasc? |
| 21:52.18 | streuner | zered: hi, btw. |
| 21:52.20 | subgv | drac: sweet jesus =) |
| 21:52.23 | Wyzard | tdfx is a driver |
| 21:52.35 | zered | cadu, hi. |
| 21:52.36 | Gospel | wow I remember the 3dfx days :) |
| 21:52.41 | zered | cadu, what do you mean ? |
| 21:52.42 | Gospel | good memories |
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| 21:52.48 | Gospel | 10 years ago |
| 21:52.49 | SharkY | Hiiii |
| 21:52.56 | cadu | zered: forget about, a friend of mine uses Zered as nick AND sacarasc :) |
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| 21:53.08 | RvGaTe | just wondering, who's running on Debian right now as a workstation... and what's the reason for using it... where do you use it for... (no flames, just curious) |
| 21:53.15 | zered | cadu, ok. ;-) |
| 21:53.21 | deadcat | RvGaTe: most of us. |
| 21:53.44 | deadcat | RvGaTe: what do you use windows for? other distro for? same freakin reason |
| 21:53.44 | streuner | RvGaTe: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 21:53.45 | daxxar | RvGaTe, I used to use it as a workstation. I listen to music, communicate (IM, IRC, email), work (code or design). |
| 21:54.04 | Wyzard | RvGaTe: I use Debian because I like its maintainability and its infrastructure |
| 21:54.04 | deadcat | daxxar: not to mention watching porn (= |
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| 21:54.12 | daxxar | deadcat, sorry, forgot the most vital one. :) |
| 21:54.17 | deadcat | daxxar: hehe |
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| 21:54.29 | daxxar | RvGaTe, only thing I do on windows that I don't on linux are win32 games, and win32 program development / testing. |
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| 21:54.33 | ArtistAgent | #damnsmalllinux |
| 21:54.34 | Gospel | ArtistAgent, hi there |
| 21:54.39 | streuner | RvGaTe: well, i use debian for almost everything, exept games. |
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| 21:55.06 | RvGaTe | my main reason for not using debian (sorry, hehe) is that i can play games that i like... i probably would use debian if i wasn't a gamer... |
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| 21:55.12 | Gospel | streuner, what debian are u using? |
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| 21:55.30 | TiTaN_pi8 | thanks a lot everybody for helping me out! it works |
| 21:55.36 | streuner | Gospel: sarge (server) |
| 21:55.38 | subgv | I like debian, because I don't like gentoo =) |
| 21:55.38 | Gospel | what will be the benefits for me now that Im changing from Mepis to Debian? |
| 21:55.39 | deadcat | debian pro |
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| 21:56.07 | Gospel | streuner, ok |
| 21:56.10 | deadcat | corporate edition |
| 21:56.12 | RvGaTe | daxxar: so what programs do you use for designing and coding? |
| 21:56.17 | deadcat | WITH cd key |
| 21:56.18 | TiTaN_pi8 | another little question: is it possible to change the resolution for the console (i mean when not running the xserver)? |
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| 21:56.37 | Gospel | streuner: what will be the benefits for me now that Im changing from Mepis to Debian? |
| 21:56.38 | daxxar | RvGaTe, I'm not much of a designer, but for graphics I use the GIMP. For coding I use vim, gcc, #develop, etcetera. |
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| 21:56.41 | deadcat | TiTaN_pi8: ya. set your vga=blah in your lilo or grub config file |
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| 21:57.06 | zered | streuner, it doesn't work. |
| 21:57.12 | streuner | Gospel: good question, i dunno Mepis |
| 21:57.18 | zered | It's searching and...failed ! |
| 21:57.25 | Gospel | streuner: ok |
| 21:57.32 | TiTaN_pi8 | deadcat, ok but do i have to enable something in my kernel configuration for that? |
| 21:57.38 | streuner | !tell zered about dhcp client |
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| 21:57.44 | beardy | TiTaN_pi8: vga=ask, change it at boot time (text console) some framebuffer consoles (all except VESA?) can be changed on the fly using fbset. |
| 21:57.58 | Gospel | streuner: mepis is debian based distro |
| 21:57.58 | deadcat | TiTaN_pi8: debian kernel is ready for that |
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| 21:58.11 | daxxar | Oh well, RvGaTe, I hope you figure it out. I'm going to the loo. |
| 21:58.11 | TiTaN_pi8 | deadcat, i recompiled my own kernel from kernel.org |
| 21:58.16 | Gospel | enrique_: hello |
| 21:58.23 | RvGaTe | daxxar: i will... i will |
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| 21:58.26 | Gospel | daxxar: too much info :P |
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| 21:58.33 | TiTaN_pi8 | beardy, thx (i am using nvidia's nvidia driver) |
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| 21:58.45 | Gospel | pusling: why? |
| 21:58.45 | zered | streuner, sorry my english is not good. What do you mean ? |
| 21:58.53 | zero-1 | Hi Gospel |
| 21:58.56 | Gospel | zero-1: hey hey |
| 21:58.59 | daxxar | Gospel, nono, tmi would be like. "I've had so much stomach trouble today, it keeps growling, and my excrements are all ..." |
| 21:59.02 | daxxar | ;-P |
| 21:59.04 | streuner | !fr |
| 21:59.04 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-france - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-france |
| 21:59.07 | pusling | Gospel: because all packages needs recompiling and doesn't happen at once ;) |
| 21:59.12 | zero-1 | sorry I changed my nick :P |
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| 21:59.15 | Gospel | daxxar: too much info *again* lol |
| 21:59.18 | Jeffro | hello |
| 21:59.18 | x-Al1gma | hello Jeffro |
| 21:59.20 | daxxar | rofl ;P |
| 21:59.23 | Gospel | pusling: good point :) |
| 21:59.25 | zered | streuner, I have done that. |
| 21:59.25 | Jeffro | i have a question |
| 21:59.26 | beardy | TiTaN_pi8: Then you have to use vesa framebuffer, if you want to run framebuffer, rivafb conflicts with the nvidia driver.. |
| 21:59.26 | daxxar | (I honestly havn't, though. I'm just going to the loo. Later) |
| 21:59.29 | zero-1 | how about the ones that speak spanish :P |
| 21:59.33 | Gospel | Jeffro: hello |
| 21:59.35 | Jeffro | i want to install debian on a laptop |
| 21:59.44 | Jeffro | but i can't boot bootable cd's |
| 21:59.54 | Gospel | any1 here familar with that debian based distro called Mepis? |
| 21:59.55 | SimonRaven | floppies |
| 21:59.55 | Jeffro | is there a alternative i can doe |
| 21:59.58 | RvGaTe | Jeffro: have you checked your bios ? |
| 21:59.58 | beardy | TiTaN_pi8: Personally I prefer 80x25 VGA text. |
| 21:59.59 | streuner | !rube goldberg install |
| 21:59.59 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 22:00.06 | TiTaN_pi8 | beardy, mmh i'm not really following you. does that mean it is impossible? |
| 22:00.08 | SimonRaven | see the install guide. also netboot |
| 22:00.18 | pusling | Gospel: and three days ago, apt-get dist-upgrade wanted to remove frozen bubbles :/ |
| 22:00.20 | Jeffro | yes i did but its a external cd drive |
| 22:00.31 | Gospel | pusling: hehe |
| 22:00.35 | streuner | Jeffro: floppy-disk? |
| 22:00.44 | zero-1 | floppies |
| 22:00.50 | zero-1 | try with floppyes |
| 22:00.54 | Jeffro | will that floppy disk will be able to boot the cd version |
| 22:00.56 | streuner | Jeffro: read ig (/msg dpkg ig) |
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| 22:01.09 | streuner | Jeffro: sure |
| 22:01.09 | zero-1 | it will boot from floppy and do the rest from cd |
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| 22:01.17 | streuner | Jeffro: /msg dpkg laptops |
| 22:01.17 | zero-1 | it will work |
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| 22:01.54 | pusling | Gospel: and right now, something wants so remove entire kde (qt3-dev-tools) |
| 22:02.01 | beardy | TiTaN_pi8: No, not at all, it means that you will not be able to change the resolution of the framebuffer using fbset, you will only be able to change it at boot time. Do you use text console, or framebuffer console? |
| 22:02.06 | Eulex | zero-1, no, floppies contain enough to do a netinstall and doesn't use any cd |
| 22:02.15 | chealer | Gospel: ask #mepis |
| 22:02.24 | TiTaN_pi8 | beardy, i think text console |
| 22:02.38 | zero-1 | sorry my english is not good, i know what you mean |
| 22:02.40 | Jeffro | how many floppy's do i need 10 or so xD |
| 22:02.57 | streuner | Jeffro: best case would be 2 |
| 22:02.57 | lunatech | how do i restart a daemon process ? (bind 9, to be precise) |
| 22:03.04 | Jeffro | ok |
| 22:03.04 | zero-1 | i just said that cause he said he could not boot from cd |
| 22:03.09 | streuner | Jeffro: read ig |
| 22:03.15 | zero-1 | and i tought he had one but could just not boot |
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| 22:03.17 | Jeffro | what would be a good grapichal manager for a laptop |
| 22:03.23 | Jeffro | a small one |
| 22:03.26 | Wyzard | lunatech: /etc/init.d/bind9 restart |
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| 22:03.30 | Jeffro | so not kde or gnome |
| 22:03.33 | Eulex | Jeffro, I think now is a good time to read the manual's instructions on how to install from floppies |
| 22:03.34 | nvz | Jeffro: graphical _____ manager? |
| 22:03.43 | Jeffro | display |
| 22:03.44 | streuner | Jeffro: i like ob (openbox), but /msg dpkg window manager |
| 22:03.46 | Jeffro | or something |
| 22:03.48 | Wyzard | lunatech: If you just need to make it recognize modified zone files, use "reload" instead of "restart" |
| 22:03.51 | luminousnerd | I want to get the settings and every program, the distro, EVERY THING on this pc to the other machines (which are factory installed winblows) |
| 22:03.56 | Eulex | Jeffro, xdm? :P |
| 22:03.59 | nvz | Jeffro: you mean like a desktop env |
| 22:04.01 | bucky | Jeffro, fluxbox |
| 22:04.03 | Jeffro | ok |
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| 22:04.09 | zero-1 | fluxbox or afterstep |
| 22:04.10 | streuner | dpkg, window manager |
| 22:04.11 | dpkg | hmm... window manager is includes: 9wm, aewm, afterstep, amaterus, amiwm, asclassic, blackbox, ctwm, cwwm, enlightenment, evilwm, fluxbox, flwm, fvwm, icewm, ion, kwin, larswm, lwm, matchbox, metacity, nawm, olvwm, olwm, openbox, oroborus, plwm, pwm, qvwm, ratpoison, sapphire, sawfish, twm, uwm, vtwm, w9wm, waimea, wininfo, wm2, wmaker, and xfwm4. TWIN (Text mode). Pickers: selectwm and wmanager. No WM-picker-picker. Yet. |
| 22:04.11 | Jeffro | which one ios the smallest? |
| 22:04.27 | bucky | wm |
| 22:04.33 | bucky | fvwm |
| 22:04.36 | lunatech | thanks Wyzard . have added a line for acl - using it for a local caching-nameserver |
| 22:04.37 | shay | ratpoison |
| 22:04.39 | nvz | Jeffro: do you need the whole integrated desktop filemanager thing? can you function without panels? |
| 22:04.56 | Jeffro | a lil but i want to use some programs |
| 22:05.01 | Wyzard | lunatech: BIND is overkill for that... consider using pdnsd |
| 22:05.02 | nvz | Jeffro: do you like the keyboard or mouse better? |
| 22:05.06 | RelDrgn | does anyone here happen to understand this new cluster thing in postgres in sid? I'm trying to upgrade the old 7.4 database to 8.0, but pg_upgradecluster insists that 8.0/main already exists, and pg_dropcluster gives me errors and says that it doesnt. pg_lsclusters tells me 7.4 is running and 8.0 is down. |
| 22:05.08 | Jeffro | mouse.... |
| 22:05.09 | Wyzard | lunatech: And you might be intersted in the "resolvconf" package |
| 22:05.13 | nvz | Jeffro: you can use any programs you want |
| 22:05.19 | Jeffro | not |
| 22:05.22 | Jeffro | like nero etc |
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| 22:05.36 | Jeffro | programs that require a windows manager |
| 22:05.41 | lunatech | Wyzard: are there docs to configure those ? the bind one was on teh tldp |
| 22:05.51 | TiTaN_pi8 | beardy, what is best, text console or framebuffer console? |
| 22:05.58 | Wyzard | lunatech: The fact that you have to custom-configure it at all is why it's overkill :-) |
| 22:05.58 | rene1 | hello, i have sarge want to upgrade to kernel 2.6 to get netmap support, does any of the 2.6 kernels available in apt-cache have it? how to test it? |
| 22:06.08 | bucky | Jeffro, you'll prolly want at least fluxbox for that |
| 22:06.09 | beardy | TiTaN_pi8: The one you prefer is best for you. |
| 22:06.22 | drac | TiTaN_pi8: If you want X to work properly with 3D, don't use framebuffer in console.. |
| 22:06.35 | nvz | Jeffro: a window manager is the basic componant. there are additional things like panels with icons. desktop icons, integrated filemangers with extensive vfs and multimedia componants |
| 22:06.42 | lunatech | Wyzard: out of teh box it was configured for caching nameserver (except for the acl , added that as I am a bit paranoid) :-) |
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| 22:06.52 | TiTaN_pi8 | k, thank you |
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| 22:06.55 | Wyzard | lunatech: Install resolvconf and pdnsd, and pdnsd will automatically use whatever real nameservers your system knows about, and your resolv.conf will automatically contain localhost (to use the cache) before the lines for those real nameservers |
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| 22:07.14 | nvz | Jeffro: you can use even say gnome-panel with any wm and not have the other 500 packages installed |
| 22:07.17 | Wyzard | lunatech: If your nameservers change (such as if you move to a different network) the change will be handled automatically |
| 22:07.18 | lunatech | nice :-) |
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| 22:07.52 | Jeffro | yes but i want to use minimal space |
| 22:07.57 | Gospel | i have installed a second HD as my slave (hdb)! How can I now get Debian to see it and use it please? |
| 22:08.02 | Jeffro | i got 623 mb on my laptop |
| 22:08.03 | streuner | rene1: why do you think you need that? |
| 22:08.15 | rene1 | i want to join to overlapping networks |
| 22:08.20 | rene1 | i have linked them with vtun |
| 22:08.29 | rene1 | s/to/two |
| 22:08.33 | lunatech | Wyzard: is there some way i can deactivate a package without removing it ? that will save my bandwidth |
| 22:08.40 | Wyzard | rene1: Don't use vtun |
| 22:08.42 | Jeffro | ok where is the download link to debian woody |
| 22:08.48 | Jeffro | floppy |
| 22:08.48 | Wyzard | rene1: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=319449 |
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| 22:09.35 | rene1 | didnt realize it was that bad, my past employee used it a lot |
| 22:09.35 | Wyzard | rene1: http://www.openvpn.net/ |
| 22:09.51 | streuner | !dbugs 319449 |
| 22:09.54 | dpkg | #319449:I[vtun] Extremely insecure; false-sense-of-security risk |
| 22:10.31 | rene1 | i need to switch then |
| 22:10.35 | beardy | Isn't framebuffer the default in kernel-image-* kernels anymore? |
| 22:10.49 | beardy | That's good, if that is the case.. |
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| 22:11.44 | Wyzard | rene1: OpenVPN works well and is well-documented |
| 22:11.53 | rene1 | im getting openvpn free swan gives me the chills it seems scary |
| 22:12.20 | Jeffro | which file do i need for floppy disk netinstall? boot.img, cd-drivers.img, net-drivers.img or root.img |
| 22:12.23 | Gospel | whats the command to activate (mount) my 2nd HD? |
| 22:12.26 | rene1 | what about the netmap support in kernel 2.6? |
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| 22:13.15 | streuner | knusper:/boot# grep -i netmap config-2.6.9-1-k7 |
| 22:13.15 | streuner | CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_NETMAP=m |
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| 22:13.36 | tarzeau | streuner! |
| 22:13.44 | k-man | does it take ages to open encrypted dvds? |
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| 22:13.50 | k-man | while it tries to work out the key? |
| 22:13.51 | streuner | tarzeau! |
| 22:14.01 | Wyzard | k-man: No, it's generally pretty fast |
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| 22:14.16 | k-man | Wyzard, oh... mine seems to be taking ages |
| 22:14.22 | k-man | like.... minutes |
| 22:14.23 | flexo | sarge is... stable? |
| 22:14.35 | tarzeau | flexo: yes |
| 22:14.41 | Gospel | ok ok! I will give the first person to tell me $10,000! whats the command to activate (mount) my 2nd HD? :) |
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| 22:14.53 | tarzeau | and life don't suck |
| 22:14.55 | Wyzard | Gospel: man mount |
| 22:14.57 | thingfish | sarge is pretty much the definition of stable. |
| 22:15.00 | flexo | i just installed sarge using debootstrap... and it seems i got a testing system. |
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| 22:15.02 | Gospel | flexo: since 6th June 2005, yes |
| 22:15.07 | Gospel | Wyzard: ok :) |
| 22:15.08 | Wyzard | Gospel: Assuming you already have a filesystem on it, that is |
| 22:15.09 | SerajewelKS | where does kdm keeps its list of session types? |
| 22:15.15 | SerajewelKS | s/keeps/keep/ |
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| 22:15.51 | Gospel | Wyzard: yes i used qtparted and set up file system already |
| 22:16.07 | Gospel | Wyzard: so all i need to do now is mount it, right? |
| 22:16.17 | Wyzard | Gospel: right |
| 22:16.21 | Gospel | Wyzard: thanks |
| 22:16.33 | Gospel | Wyzard: btw, what filesystem is recommend these days? |
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| 22:16.49 | Wyzard | Gospel: Depends on your needs, but ext3 isa good general-purpose filesystem |
| 22:16.50 | SerajewelKS | i would like to show qvwm in the kdm session type list, and i can't find the file i need to edit |
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| 22:17.15 | Wyzard | SerajewelKS: GDM keeps them in /etc/gdm/Sessions, so maybe kdm has an /etc/kdm/Sessions or similar? |
| 22:17.31 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard, not that i can see |
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| 22:17.38 | Gospel | Wyzard: my 1st HS is ext3, but my hdb is reisers |
| 22:17.38 | blah123 | I need some help setting up xwindows with dual monitor support. right now both my monitors are working, but its just displaying duplicate information, I would rather have it span or have two differn't desktops |
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| 22:17.46 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard, it LOOKS like it keeps them in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ |
| 22:17.50 | SerajewelKS | Wyzard, but it's not using those |
| 22:18.07 | Wyzard | Gospel: ReiserFS is fine too... that's that I'm using |
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| 22:18.23 | Gospel | Wyzard: can I keep my hda as ext3 and my hdb as reisers without any conflicts? |
| 22:18.28 | Wyzard | Gospel: yes |
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| 22:18.34 | Gospel | Wyzard: great thanks :) |
| 22:18.56 | Gospel | Wyzard: so now all i do is type mount /dev/hdb |
| 22:19.02 | Gospel | Wyzard: right? |
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| 22:19.14 | Wyzard | Gospel: Well, your filesystem is actually on a partition, maybe hdb1 |
| 22:19.50 | beardy | Gospel: 'mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/somedir' Read mount's manpage. |
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| 22:20.14 | Gospel | Wyzard: in Konq it says (hdb) [mnt/hdb] |
| 22:20.19 | ixion | whats the command |
| 22:20.19 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, but don't you need something else in the command to mount reiserFS system |
| 22:20.27 | ixion | whats the command for creating a file system please |
| 22:20.30 | blah123 | anyone have any experience with dual monitor support? |
| 22:20.33 | Gospel | gentgeen__: dont know, i never mounted a drive before :P |
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| 22:21.00 | servus | apt-get install kdevelop3 kdevelop3-data kdevelop3-dev kdevelop3-doc kdevelop3-plugins :: The following packages will be REMOVED: apache2 apache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-prefork-dev libapache2-mod-php4 websvn |
| 22:21.03 | servus | Nice. |
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| 22:21.34 | rene1 | thanks streuner, i think i will hang around here every now and then to learn a couple things quick |
| 22:21.39 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, what they are saying is prob. right mount /dev/hdb# /some/location/here/ |
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| 22:22.10 | lunatech | mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb# /mnt/whatever |
| 22:22.16 | gentgeen__ | I was thinking reiser = lfs but of course id does not |
| 22:22.40 | gentgeen__ | s/id/it |
| 22:22.41 | SerajewelKS | !tell RabidDog about unstable |
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| 22:22.52 | RabidDog | SerajewelKS: I know |
| 22:23.15 | RabidDog | It's one of those frustrating days, I usually can handle unstable |
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| 22:23.43 | ArtistAgent | heres something to cheer yall up |
| 22:23.51 | ArtistAgent | roses are red violets are blue |
| 22:23.57 | RvGaTe | ... |
| 22:23.59 | ArtistAgent | all of my base are belong to you |
| 22:24.09 | RvGaTe | wow, how original .. :s |
| 22:24.15 | ArtistAgent | not really |
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| 22:24.25 | ArtistAgent | i just found it on bash .org funstuff |
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| 22:24.38 | Gospel | lunatech: so I type "mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb /mnt/home" ? |
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| 22:24.48 | ArtistAgent | got a kick out of it hope you guys did too |
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| 22:25.06 | Gospel | lunatech: will that command u gave me use my whole second HD as /home will it? |
| 22:25.12 | frehfreh | well abrotman are you around now? |
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| 22:25.14 | abrotman | !u |
| 22:25.14 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:25.16 | RvGaTe | how about this on ArtistAgent.... |
| 22:25.18 | RvGaTe | I haven't taken my Christmas lights down. They look so nice on the |
| 22:25.18 | RvGaTe | pumpkin. |
| 22:25.20 | abrotman | frehfreh: yes .. where was i before ? |
| 22:25.21 | frehfreh | cool |
| 22:25.24 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, no |
| 22:25.28 | outlaw84 | Does anyone know a tutorial that shows you how to speed up networking and/or I/O in linux? |
| 22:25.43 | gentgeen__ | "mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb# /mnt/home/mount" |
| 22:25.45 | Gospel | gentgeen__: all I want to do is mount my second HD so I can use it to store personal files |
| 22:25.45 | lunatech | Gospel: no - you have to give which partition on hdb |
| 22:25.47 | frehfreh | abrotman uhm just hanging the array in a windows box, repartition using partition magic and voila |
| 22:25.48 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: 1. Buy a faster computer. 2. ??? 3. Profit! |
| 22:25.52 | beardy | Gospel: You must specify which partition to mount. /dev/hdb1 in your case probably. |
| 22:26.06 | abrotman | frehfreh: that's really odd |
| 22:26.06 | lunatech | Gospel: have you created any partitions on it ? |
| 22:26.12 | Gospel | lunatech: my hdb is only 1 partition! im using it all |
| 22:26.17 | gentgeen__ | mkdir /mnt/backup |
| 22:26.23 | RelDrgn | ah, even though the rest of the pg_* tools are for the postmaster to use, the cluster tools must be run as root. |
| 22:26.25 | frehfreh | abrotman: VERY ODD |
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| 22:26.31 | lunatech | oh in that case just do /dev/hdb1 |
| 22:26.31 | SerajewelKS | how do i add qvwm to the kdm session type list? |
| 22:26.38 | gentgeen__ | then mount -t reiserfs /dev/mdb1 /mnt/backup |
| 22:26.43 | Gospel | lunatech: so I type "mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/home" ? |
| 22:27.03 | gentgeen__ | NO, you need to mount it into an empty directory |
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| 22:27.14 | lunatech | Gospel: first mount it in some temp directory |
| 22:27.22 | lunatech | to make sure it works |
| 22:27.24 | gentgeen__ | mkdir /mnt/backup then mount -t reiserfs /dev/mdb1 /mnt/backup for example |
| 22:27.34 | Gospel | lunatech: ok, so how about this? :)I type "mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup" ? |
| 22:27.38 | Gospel | gentgeen__: ok |
| 22:27.42 | EvilSporkMan | how do i build gaim, gaim-dev, and gaim-data from the gaim source package? |
| 22:27.46 | lunatech | Gospel: seems like a good idea |
| 22:27.47 | abrotman | frehfreh: agreed |
| 22:27.54 | Gospel | lunatech: :) |
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| 22:28.08 | Gospel | lunatech: do I first need to type "mkdir /mnt/backup" ? |
| 22:28.21 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: I/O goes at half speed in Linux to what I get in Windows... So far I found one thing that speeded things up, but I am looking for more stuff, |
| 22:28.22 | lunatech | Gospel: yes |
| 22:28.32 | RvGaTe | ...that's right, not even McGyver could fix it. |
| 22:28.34 | Gospel | lunatech: how will that command know to use my hdb? |
| 22:28.36 | beardy | Gospel: If you wanted that drive mounted and used as /home, you should have done so when you installed. You can fix that now too, but it will not be as easy as doing it during the installation. |
| 22:28.40 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: are you talking hard drive access? |
| 22:28.43 | frehfreh | abrotman the funn |
| 22:28.55 | lunatech | Gospel: the mkdir makes a directory |
| 22:28.57 | Gospel | beardy: no thats ok! I just want to use it for backups |
| 22:29.08 | Gospel | lunatech: ok |
| 22:29.13 | Gospel | got it thanks :) |
| 22:29.13 | frehfreh | abrotman the funny part is that it's on both poweredges and perc's one with raid 1 and the other with raid 5 |
| 22:29.43 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: that got fixed by compiling in unix-domain socket instead of having it as a module... But I still only get 5Mbytes/sek in my local 100Mbits LAN |
| 22:29.57 | lunatech | Gospel: if you want to use it for backups, don't mount it as /home , keep it in /mnt/backup (just a suggestion) |
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| 22:30.15 | Gospel | gentgeen__: u said mount -t reiserfs /dev/mdb1 /, but didnt you mean /dev/hdb1? NOT mdb1? |
| 22:30.19 | abrotman | !u |
| 22:30.20 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 22:30.43 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, yes sorry -- been teaching myself new keyboard layout |
| 22:30.46 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: you have the right driver for your network card loaded, i assume? |
| 22:31.03 | EvilSporkMan | lsmod and look for something reminiscent of the description of your network card from lspci |
| 22:31.06 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: yea else it wouldn't work at all |
| 22:31.22 | madclicker | anyone using asp with apache? |
| 22:31.23 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: that doesn't always work |
| 22:31.31 | lunatech | Gospel: if you wnat ti to be mounted automatically when the system boots up, add the line to /etc/fstab "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup reiserfs defaults 0 2" |
| 22:31.31 | Gospel | lunatech: yes! 1, I type "mkdir /mnt/backup" and 2. I type "mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup" Does this look right? :) |
| 22:31.37 | lunatech | yes |
| 22:31.42 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: 0000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 10) |
| 22:31.50 | abrotman | EvilSporkMan: mine is a Broadcom .. driver is tg3 :) |
| 22:32.06 | lunatech | Gospel: after that do a ls -al /mnt/backup |
| 22:32.09 | Gospel | lunatech: ok and then 3. I open fstab and enter a new line with ""/dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup reiserfs defaults 0 2" |
| 22:32.13 | Gospel | luite: correct? |
| 22:32.22 | lunatech | Gospel: not now |
| 22:32.33 | Gospel | lunatech: is "ls -al /mnt/backup" 4. step? |
| 22:32.43 | lunatech | Gospel: yes |
| 22:32.47 | SerajewelKS | how do i add qvwm to the kdm session type list? |
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| 22:32.53 | lunatech | Gospel: before adding it to /etc/fstab |
| 22:33.12 | lunatech | SerajewelKS: qvwm is a windowmanager ? |
| 22:33.22 | SerajewelKS | lunatech, yes |
| 22:33.25 | Gospel | lunatech: ok! i did forst 2 steps! I typed ""mkdir /mnt/backup" and then I typed "mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup" Whats my 3 step now? |
| 22:33.44 | lunatech | ls -al /mnt/backup |
| 22:33.47 | Gospel | ok |
| 22:33.51 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: how are you measuring speed over your network, ooc? |
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| 22:34.08 | Gospel | lunatech: it said: total 4 |
| 22:34.08 | Gospel | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 48 2005-08-14 18:08 . |
| 22:34.08 | Gospel | drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2005-08-14 20:29 .. |
| 22:34.13 | lunatech | SerajewelKS: this might help http://rajshekhar.net/content/view/5/26/ |
| 22:34.16 | Gospel | lunatech: does that look right? |
| 22:34.21 | gentgeen__ | SerajewelKS, I think I read somewhere that debian uses the same file for all |
| 22:34.25 | lunatech | Gospel: nice - now your sik is mounted |
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| 22:34.48 | Gospel | lunatech: now how do I get to accesss it and use it everytine I reboot? |
| 22:34.49 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, assuming the drived was empty to begin with ;-) |
| 22:34.59 | SerajewelKS | gentgeen__, that's what i thought... but where is it |
| 22:35.00 | Gospel | gentgeen__: it was a 20 gig emty HD |
| 22:35.03 | lunatech | Gospel: you cna add that line in /etc/fstab - it will mount it whenever it boots up |
| 22:35.19 | lunatech | gentgeen__: :) |
| 22:35.25 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: the tranfser application krusader says it... So does ftp also the Windows System monitor on the remote computer |
| 22:35.25 | gentgeen__ | SerajewelKS, I don't recall :-( |
| 22:35.39 | Gospel | lunatech: so my last step is open fstab and enter "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup reiserfs defaults 0 2" ? |
| 22:35.54 | lunatech | let me check a sec Gospel |
| 22:36.00 | Gospel | lunatech: ok thanks |
| 22:36.02 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: isn't network transfer speed limited by RAM and hard drive access? |
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| 22:36.29 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: of course, this is as compared to windows, so I guess that's irrelevant |
| 22:36.34 | lunatech | Gospel: yes - that line seems ok |
| 22:37.04 | Gospel | lunatech: ok! and now i see a new icon on my desktop, but the other still says its unmounted |
| 22:37.19 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: I got 1024MB Ram and my disks are in top shape ;) and I get 10Mbyte/sek with Windows |
| 22:37.26 | lunatech | it is mounted Gospel |
| 22:37.42 | lunatech | Gospel: just do a "mount" and see teh output |
| 22:37.53 | lunatech | Gospel: just do a "mount|grep hdb1" and see teh output |
| 22:37.56 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: And I see no reason why I shouldn't get that much in Linux |
| 22:38.26 | Gospel | lunatech: ok thanks |
| 22:38.36 | Gospel | lunatech: U have been very helpful, thanks a lot :) |
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| 22:38.54 | lunatech | Gospel: can you gve the output of the command i told you ? "mount|grep hdb1" |
| 22:39.01 | lunatech | Gospel: np |
| 22:39.07 | gentgeen__ | SerajewelKS, http://forpractice.com/miasma/sfvlug/configuring-your-linux-gui.html#kdm |
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| 22:39.54 | Gospel | lunatech: /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/backup type reiserfs (rw) |
| 22:39.59 | RvGaTe | is there any cool stuff that i could do with samba then just sharing? :) |
| 22:40.01 | Gospel | lunatech: does that look right? |
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| 22:40.10 | lunatech | Gospel: nice - it works :-) |
| 22:40.26 | gentgeen__ | lunatech, I am thinking that he has 2 icons now on his desktop now ... is that right Gospel |
| 22:40.27 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: yeah, smells like drivers. what else is slow? |
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| 22:40.28 | gentgeen__ | ? |
| 22:40.43 | Gospel | lunatech: ok :) great :) And now i have 4 HD icons on my desktop! 2 for hda and now 2 for hdb! do I keep them all there? |
| 22:40.53 | lunatech | gentgeen__: not much experience in mounting things with gui :) |
| 22:41.10 | gentgeen__ | lol, me neither but I have some thoughts ;-) |
| 22:41.24 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, which WM/DE are you using |
| 22:41.26 | gentgeen__ | ? |
| 22:41.33 | Gospel | gentgeen__: whats WM/DE mean? |
| 22:41.36 | lunatech | Gospel: don't worry - they will be there when you reboot - you have added teh line in /etc/fstab i hope ? |
| 22:41.39 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: The disk speed was also limited to 15Mbyte/sek but that got fixed by compiling in unix-domain socket into kernel now I get 25-30Mbyte/sek |
| 22:41.48 | gentgeen__ | sorry Windowmanager or Desktop Environment |
| 22:41.53 | Gospel | lunatech: yes added that line u gave me to fstab |
| 22:41.53 | gentgeen__ | I assume Gnome or KDE |
| 22:42.01 | EvilSporkMan | outlaw84: also, apparently different drivers can get picked for that card you have...rtl8150 or 8139too, it looks like. which have you got loaded? |
| 22:42.02 | Gospel | gentgeen__: kde |
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| 22:42.16 | gentgeen__ | lunatech, I am wondering if he now has 2 lines in his fstab for hdb1 |
| 22:42.20 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: I'll check |
| 22:42.41 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, float the mouse over the icons, in the tool tip, not the info |
| 22:42.46 | lunatech | Gospel: can you do a "grep hdb /etc/fstab" and show the output here ? |
| 22:42.56 | Gospel | lunatech: only 1 of the hdb icons has a green arrow on it! the other says unmmounted and has no green arrow! Is that normal? |
| 22:43.00 | SerajewelKS | gentgeen__, the newest version of the KDE login configuration panel doesn't have a spot to configure session types |
| 22:43.04 | stevarino | i don't think debian likes my soundcard... i'm getting this error "Could not access device "/dev/dsp", check its permissions.Could not access device "/dev/dsp", check its permissions." |
| 22:43.05 | Gospel | lunatech: ok |
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| 22:43.09 | stevarino | how can i fix that? |
| 22:43.11 | Gospel | wait 5 secs pls |
| 22:43.16 | abrotman | stevarino: as root ? |
| 22:43.16 | lunatech | ok |
| 22:43.24 | gentgeen__ | SerajewelKS, sorry |
| 22:43.37 | stevarino | abrotman: no, just a general user trying to play some music |
| 22:43.40 | gentgeen__ | :-) I use GDM, so really can't help more then Google |
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| 22:43.43 | blah123 | greetings, I'm running the latest stable debian (sarge) does that use xorg yet? |
| 22:43.53 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: I got 8139too compiled in the kernel |
| 22:44.01 | gentgeen__ | blah123, no |
| 22:44.05 | abrotman | stevarino: does it work as root ? |
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| 22:44.11 | abrotman | blah123: no . and it won't |
| 22:44.20 | blah123 | gentgeen__ ahh ok |
| 22:44.26 | novellino | hi |
| 22:44.27 | stevarino | abrotman: how do i get the music player to play under root? signing off and back on as root? |
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| 22:44.41 | outlaw84 | EvilSporkMan: Also 8139cp |
| 22:44.46 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, won't stable EVENTUALLY have it? or has debian ruled out x.org? |
| 22:44.48 | frehfreh | !u |
| 22:44.48 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:44.50 | novellino | i got a problem installing debian |
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| 22:45.02 | abrotman | gentgeen__: sarge will NEVER have it |
| 22:45.03 | novellino | i'm a beginner...help me |
| 22:45.11 | abrotman | gentgeen__: when etch becomes stable .. it should have it |
| 22:45.16 | thingfis1 | !tell novellino about ask |
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| 22:45.24 | abrotman | stevarino: sounds like a plan |
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| 22:45.28 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, opps -- I just saw the stable in parent -- did not read the sarge |
| 22:45.33 | stevarino | k, brb |
| 22:45.34 | Gnea | gentgeen__: it's being worked on right now - they're still working on the bugs/kinks for etch |
| 22:45.39 | novellino | i've just installed debian... |
| 22:45.47 | novellino | on my 40G hd |
| 22:45.53 | frehfreh | great info |
| 22:46.02 | gentgeen__ | Gnea, that is what I thought. cool |
| 22:46.05 | frehfreh | I installed windows in the open air |
| 22:46.09 | novellino | creating a partition for it |
| 22:46.18 | thingfish | keep going |
| 22:46.26 | Teace | I installed windows because the breeze was getting to cold from outside. |
| 22:46.31 | novellino | now starting from winME i don't see my hd anymore! |
| 22:46.32 | s_ward | Hehe, I actually had Windows installed today.. |
| 22:46.34 | Gospel | lunatech: it says: |
| 22:46.35 | Gospel | /dev/hdb1 /mnt/backup reiserfs defaults 0 2 |
| 22:46.35 | thingfish | mas informacion = mas bueno |
| 22:46.35 | Gospel | /dev/hdb /mnt/hdb auto noauto,users,exec 0 0 |
| 22:46.36 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, how is it going -- did you get lost?? Things ok now? |
| 22:46.38 | abrotman | novellino: any chnaace you can put that all on one line? :) |
| 22:46.39 | s_ward | err.. double glazing |
| 22:46.41 | Gnea | gentgeen__: they had a really nice setup at LWE last week |
| 22:46.48 | rxdamian | Hi, I'm a newcomer to Linux, and I'm about to install Debian 'Sarge', I've been reading some manuals and it have been difficult, there are many steps to do, don't get me wrong I want to do it myself, I'm not looking for an explication step by step I just want some advice to not screw it because I'm still using Windows XP and I plan to continue like this for a while. |
| 22:47.00 | Gospel | lunatech: does that look fine? |
| 22:47.01 | Teace | Hello. |
| 22:47.02 | Teace | lol |
| 22:47.06 | Gospel | gentgeen__: im here ;) |
| 22:47.09 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, remove that second line, you don't need that on now |
| 22:47.09 | lunatech | Gospel: remove the /dev/hdb line - ad things should get back to normal then |
| 22:47.10 | abrotman | novellino: winME doesn't have the ability to read ext2/3 by default |
| 22:47.24 | Gnea | rxdamian: are you installing to a new HD or do you want to use the one XP is on currently? |
| 22:47.28 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, then you can also do a rmdir /mnt/hdb |
| 22:47.33 | rxdamian | the same one |
| 22:47.36 | Gospel | lunatech: remove it? but I just added it as you said |
| 22:47.36 | abrotman | winME doesn't do much .. i suspect a lot of here;jmp here code in winME |
| 22:47.36 | novellino | i know, on that disk i have a 32G fat partition |
| 22:47.57 | thingfish | hah! WinMe read ext2/3? That's something you'd see on I Love Lucy. |
| 22:48.07 | abrotman | !explore2fs |
| 22:48.07 | lunatech | /dev/hdb /mnt/hdb auto noauto,users,exec 0 0 |
| 22:48.07 | dpkg | i guess explore2fs is a win32 utility that lets you read and write(at your own risk!) ext2 file systems under win9x/nt/2000. URL: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ [Ask me about ext2ifs] |
| 22:48.16 | lunatech | remove teh "/dev/hdb /mnt/hdb auto noauto,users,exec 0 0" line |
| 22:48.22 | lunatech | remove teh "/dev/hdb /mnt/hdb auto noauto,users,exec 0 0" line Gospel |
| 22:48.22 | thingfish | well, by itself I meant. |
| 22:48.25 | frehfreh | <novellino> now starting from winME i don't see my hd anymore! <-- check inside your pc? |
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| 22:48.30 | novellino | i think the problem is that i had a DDO installed on the main disk to see the entire 40G |
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| 22:48.48 | abrotman | novellino: are you saying winME doesnt' boot anymore ? |
| 22:48.56 | dv__ | you know, a reiserfs driver for windows would be really nice. |
| 22:49.06 | gentgeen__ | Gnea, who was "they" -- Debian or x.org? |
| 22:49.09 | Gospel | ok! I deleted /dev/hdb /mnt/hdb auto noauto,users,exec 0 0 |
| 22:49.11 | rxdamian | Gnea: in the same HD |
| 22:49.20 | lunatech | ntfs is good enough dv__ |
| 22:49.24 | novellino | no, i said that winME boots but i can't see the slave HD (D:) |
| 22:49.29 | Gnea | gentgeen__: X.org - we were right next to 'em |
| 22:49.35 | dv__ | lunatech, but its dangerous to write on ntfs :) |
| 22:49.36 | Gospel | lunatech: will that work now? |
| 22:49.38 | abrotman | novellino: because it's not fat32 |
| 22:49.39 | concept10 | abrotman should order me one |
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| 22:49.45 | gentgeen__ | cool --- I really like where X.org seems to be going |
| 22:49.47 | gentgeen__ | looks nice |
| 22:49.48 | lunatech | Gospel: yes |
| 22:50.02 | novellino | abrotman, can we go in pvt? |
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| 22:50.06 | lunatech | dv__: oh, you mena from *nix :-) |
| 22:50.08 | abrotman | novellino: rather not ... |
| 22:50.13 | dv__ | yeah |
| 22:50.20 | abrotman | novellino: many people here .. one or two are smarter than me :) |
| 22:50.20 | Gospel | lunatech: do I need to reboot now to use my HD? |
| 22:50.24 | novellino | ok, i stay here |
| 22:50.24 | dv__ | I have to use fat32 for the windows partition |
| 22:50.30 | rxdamian | I don't want to use the installer, I prefer to do it manual |
| 22:50.38 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, go to www.pizzahut.com --- won't even have to leave the chair (till they knock on the door) |
| 22:50.47 | dv__ | partitionS, actually, since I cant create a 80GB partition without serious problems with the cluster sizes |
| 22:50.52 | Gnea | rxdamian: you might wanna look into resizing the partition - but backing your installation of XP up first (or at least the important data on there) |
| 22:50.53 | gentgeen__ | <grin> |
| 22:50.54 | lunatech | Gospel: no man, do you think its windows ;-) |
| 22:50.58 | abrotman | gentgeen__: no pizza hut in town anymore .. or KFC .. only papajohns .. i don't even think we have a dominos |
| 22:51.04 | thingfish | even pizza, done with quality ingredients, can be a sublime experience. |
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| 22:51.14 | rxdamian | thanks i'll do that first |
| 22:51.17 | Gospel | lunatech: I now have 2 icons for my hdb! but only 1 of them seems to be mounted and the other says unmounted! So thats normal? I ignore that? |
| 22:51.27 | concept10 | I want one of those wood-fired pizzas |
| 22:51.30 | gentgeen__ | papajohns might do web and credit card orders |
| 22:51.33 | jmstacey | I'm having some DNS problems with my computer. All DNS services have stopped working (it won't resolve when trying to download files or surf with lynx). However ssh is still available using the IP address instead of hostname. Any ideas where to start? |
| 22:51.40 | thingfish | well, and a pizza oven imported from italy wouldn't hurt, either. |
| 22:51.49 | lunatech | Gospel: yes - i think that the /dev/hdb line was causing it |
| 22:51.51 | novellino | it's possible that the debian loader has overwritten the DDO which is necessary to see my big 40G under winME? |
| 22:51.56 | gentgeen__ | Done the pizza / debit card a few times when stuck at home without cash |
| 22:52.01 | lunatech | Gospel: can you try and refresh the page |
| 22:52.03 | outlaw84 | gentgeen__: nice page :D make me wanna eat pizza :D the marketers at pizzahut really made a great job :D |
| 22:52.03 | abrotman | RvGaTe: enigma |
| 22:52.09 | lunatech | page == desktop |
| 22:52.11 | thingfish | aack pizza hut |
| 22:52.20 | abrotman | gentgeen__: the definitely do .. i've been registered .. since 2002 i think :) |
| 22:52.20 | RvGaTe | abrotman: im running on windows |
| 22:52.22 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, the second one will prob. disaper later |
| 22:52.23 | outlaw84 | lunatech: false |
| 22:52.26 | Gospel | lunatech: how do i refresh my desktop? :P |
| 22:52.26 | abrotman | er s/the/they |
| 22:52.37 | concept10 | RvGaTe, go install Linux From Scratch only using one finger to type |
| 22:52.40 | gentgeen__ | if not, you can remove it yourself |
| 22:52.41 | abrotman | RvGaTe: i think it's sdl .. should work in windows |
| 22:53.02 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, xrefresh |
| 22:53.04 | RvGaTe | concept10: i only use debian for servers |
| 22:53.24 | RvGaTe | abrotman: where can i get it, and how would i play it? |
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| 22:53.47 | gentgeen__ | KDE will read the fstab file to create those icons, that is why you ended up with 2, cause you had hdb twice in the fstab file |
| 22:54.00 | abrotman | RvGaTe: http://www.nongnu.org/enigma/download.html |
| 22:54.11 | gentgeen__ | I just don't know if KDE will read fstab and remove old ones, or just adds the new lines |
| 22:54.13 | abrotman | RvGaTe: you cannot hold me responsible for the weeks you will lose :) |
| 22:54.14 | thingfish | sarge is tailor made for a server role. |
| 22:54.24 | k-man | whats the command for seeing the kernel events that result from key presses? |
| 22:54.25 | RvGaTe | abrotman: yes i can |
| 22:54.29 | Gospel | gentgeen__: ah ok! but cause we deleted one, it should only show one when I reboot next time! I get it |
| 22:54.31 | k-man | not xev |
| 22:54.33 | k-man | the other one |
| 22:54.46 | concept10 | im bored too, im off to shoot some people. .. |
| 22:54.51 | k-man | or for checking the scan codes that certail keys result in |
| 22:54.54 | RvGaTe | concept10: what game :P |
| 22:54.55 | Gospel | concept10: settle :) |
| 22:55.02 | gentgeen__ | Gospel, assuming KDE does remove. I am not sure if it does or not. I know it adds (that is why the second on just showed up) |
| 22:55.06 | concept10 | true combat: elite |
| 22:55.09 | thingfish | RvGaTe: he wasn't talking about a game. |
| 22:55.10 | Vegar | why won't dpkg-buildpackage include the files in debian/tmp/ in the .deb? |
| 22:55.11 | lunatech | outlaw84: :) |
| 22:55.16 | concept10 | thingfish, :) |
| 22:55.20 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:55.25 | RvGaTe | oh... well, happy killing then... |
| 22:55.36 | thingfish | the streets will run red! |
| 22:55.39 | concept10 | true combat: elite is a killer mod based on enemy territory |
| 22:55.43 | outlaw84 | Why is debian released unstable and Windows stable when debian is far more then windows? |
| 22:55.47 | Gospel | gentgeen__: ok |
| 22:56.05 | thingfish | outlaw84: once again, only in english this time. |
| 22:56.12 | subgv | know if those "blade solaris spac" supports linux? |
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| 22:56.22 | outlaw84 | Why is debian released unstable and Windows stable when debian is far more stable then windows? |
| 22:56.28 | concept10 | RvGaTe, do you like FPS games? |
| 22:56.31 | thingfish | <sigh> |
| 22:56.50 | kingtux | Anyone know how to setup bootsplash?? |
| 22:56.57 | outlaw84 | Why is debian released as unstable and Windows released as stable when debian is far more stable then windows? |
| 22:57.00 | Gospel | lunatech: outlaw84 good question |
| 22:57.06 | thingfish | outlaw84: if you had any real experience with debian unstable, you probably wouldn't be asking that question. |
| 22:57.12 | SerajewelKS | how do i add qvwm to the kdm session type list? |
| 22:57.17 | kingtux | does stable release come with kernel patch for bootsplash |
| 22:57.25 | Gospel | lunatech: u get my message? |
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| 22:58.07 | thingfish | outlaw84: because sid certainly goes through its little "phases". |
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| 22:58.17 | outlaw84 | thingfish: It was mostly supposed to be a joke but I can see it didn't work |
| 22:58.40 | thingfish | outlaw84: tsk. no one here has ANY sort of a sense of humor. |
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| 23:00.01 | concept10 | this is what true combat looks like: http://tc.hanfacker.ch/pics/news/specops_05.jpg |
| 23:00.05 | beardy | !say something funny |
| 23:00.06 | dpkg | something funny |
| 23:00.17 | outlaw84 | lol |
| 23:01.03 | RabidDog | what pacakge is tcprobe in? |
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| 23:01.09 | outlaw84 | concept10: without any cover? |
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| 23:02.16 | k-man | i have a sort of usb remote control that came with my dvb capture card. I'd like to reprogram the keys, is there a way to do that? without affecting the keys on my keyboard? |
| 23:02.21 | k-man | it works as a keyboard this remote |
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| 23:04.51 | rxdamian | Gnea: I'm ready, I have the Debian CD (108 MB), and my system file is NTFS so it won't work for boot up, so my only chance is burning the ISO, but do I need anything special at the time of burning? |
| 23:05.08 | rxdamian | oh, and I got Nero 5, would that be enough? |
| 23:05.37 | goron | When I type www.<insertsomenonexistingtld>.com, I go to some webpage of some domain seller. Why? And how can I disable it? |
| 23:05.38 | concept10 | outlaw84, huh? |
| 23:05.42 | drc | is there an atp mirror for firefox? |
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| 23:05.43 | concept10 | outlaw84, the game? |
| 23:05.51 | Gnea | rxdamian: that should be good enough - just make sure that the ntfs partition remains with the 'bootable' option in fdisk |
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| 23:06.14 | goron | This happens in Konqueror, Firefox and Mozilla. |
| 23:06.22 | rob_lt | RabidDog: transcode? |
| 23:06.32 | outlaw84 | concept10: yea the pic.. he looked kind off visable and not covered at all without any friends :D |
| 23:06.34 | RabidDog | ah ty |
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| 23:06.42 | Gnea | goron: try this: http://gnea.net |
| 23:06.52 | Vegar | goron: it's probably your DNS server |
| 23:07.07 | Gnea | goron: well? |
| 23:07.11 | concept10 | outlaw84, thats just an example the game is great |
| 23:07.20 | goron | Gnea: 404 not found with a picture in the background. |
| 23:07.24 | concept10 | outlaw84, and free as in beer |
| 23:07.33 | Gnea | goron: that's right, it works |
| 23:07.55 | outlaw84 | concept10: okej then |
| 23:07.58 | Gnea | goron: trips people out quite well :) |
| 23:08.10 | Gnea | goron: the urls you're trying to go to actually don't exist then |
| 23:08.22 | goron | Gnea: but that's not a real non-existing page. |
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| 23:08.30 | goron | Gnea: I know. |
| 23:08.32 | Gnea | goron: precisely. |
| 23:08.58 | goron | Gnea: I don't want to be automatically redirected to some domain seller. |
| 23:09.15 | outlaw84 | concept10: kind of nice that in my native language we got diffret words for free as in free beer and free as is freespeech |
| 23:09.18 | drc | Does anyone know any apt mirror where I could always get the latest firefox and probably other mozilla products? |
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| 23:10.05 | jmstacey | my server is unable to resolve any domain names locally. I've tried everything I can think of, but no luck. the ethernet device is running properly and access to the server and from the server out works using IP addresses. Any ideas what could cause this? No changes place around the time it started happening (last night). |
| 23:10.11 | goron | Vegar: So, I have a DNS server with some "default" value? |
| 23:10.17 | outlaw84 | gratis ( free beer) fri( free speech) |
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| 23:10.40 | dvs | outlaw84: "gratis" is an english word too |
| 23:10.48 | Vegar | goron: that's my guess, but I'm not sure |
| 23:10.50 | outlaw84 | its is!? |
| 23:10.54 | ChrisBradley | Hi |
| 23:10.58 | ChrisBradley | I'm using Gaim |
| 23:10.59 | outlaw84 | what does it mean in english? |
| 23:11.07 | Gnea | goron: then buy the domain! |
| 23:11.07 | ChrisBradley | and wnat to use Debian |
| 23:11.08 | k-man | is it possible with xmodmap to specify different keyboard map for a 2 different keyboards? |
| 23:11.12 | k-man | simultaneously |
| 23:11.15 | dvs | !dict gratis |
| 23:11.17 | goron | Vegar: Do you have the same wherever you live? |
| 23:11.17 | dpkg | could not find definition for gratis |
| 23:11.25 | dvs | Oh! I guess not |
| 23:11.27 | ChrisBradley | I am downloading the small CD distro now |
| 23:11.31 | Gnea | goron: it's being redirected because it expired, the original owner doesn't own it anymore - this is what happens when people forget to pay the bills. |
| 23:11.32 | outlaw84 | :) |
| 23:11.34 | ChrisBradley | If I am running mandrake |
| 23:11.50 | ChrisBradley | What do I have to do to write the ISO |
| 23:11.54 | ChrisBradley | I am new to this |
| 23:11.55 | beardy | outlaw84: Same as in swedish, at no cost, free of charge |
| 23:11.56 | concept10 | outlaw84, in my native language we have free as in no money or free as in freeninetynine or five-finger discount but they are not gratis |
| 23:11.58 | gentgeen__ | ChrisBradley, that does not make any sense (I am using GAIM and want to use Debian) :-? |
| 23:12.03 | Vegar | goron: no, I get "'aoeu.ooo' could not be found." |
| 23:12.07 | dvs | outlaw84: It's in my Oxford dictionary |
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| 23:12.18 | ChrisBradley | I am in Mandrake 9.1 now |
| 23:12.25 | gentgeen__ | ChrisBradley, do you have burning software installed? |
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| 23:12.33 | ChrisBradley | I have never written an ISO in linux |
| 23:12.33 | dvs | !smite ChrisBradley |
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| 23:12.38 | chealer | ChrisBradley: try using k3b |
| 23:12.39 | goron | e.g. www.dfsfjsdfsdfsdfsdljl.com |
| 23:12.40 | ChrisBradley | I don't know |
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| 23:12.54 | ChrisBradley | Can you recommend a good easy to use burner for linux |
| 23:12.57 | gentgeen__ | ChrisBradley, k3b or xcdroast |
| 23:13.00 | dvs | k3b |
| 23:13.05 | ChrisBradley | Thanks |
| 23:13.08 | gentgeen__ | k3b if you have KDE installed |
| 23:13.14 | gentgeen__ | xcdroast for others |
| 23:13.21 | ChrisBradley | I am using gnome |
| 23:13.30 | gribouille | join mammique |
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| 23:13.45 | goron | Gnea: What do you get when you go to www.dfsfjsdfsdfsdfsdljl.com? |
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| 23:13.53 | gentgeen__ | ChrisBradley, get xcdroast and read the pdf manual |
| 23:13.56 | goedson | ChrisBradley: There are also gnomebaker and graveman |
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| 23:14.03 | gentgeen__ | tells you exactly how to burn an iso |
| 23:14.11 | lunatech | even nautilus can handle cd burning |
| 23:14.32 | goron | I even get it in links. |
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| 23:15.09 | chealer | dvs: what do you mean? |
| 23:15.42 | dvs | chealer: I was just kidding. You mentioned k3b and he didn't do anything. Then I mentioned k3b and thanked me. |
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| 23:16.36 | chealer | dvs: oh. it's sometimes hard to see who IRC newbies are speaking to |
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| 23:16.53 | Anders | hi, i'm trying to play a DVD in xine, and it seems it cant read from it |
| 23:16.58 | Anders | and i can't kill xine |
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| 23:17.00 | luminousnerd | Guys, I need a straight answer. How can I get this machine on to 19 others? I don't want something iffy, something that could fail...I need an exact duplicate of the hd....I need to make bootable cds and be able to put them in a machine and restore that one to exactly what the source machine was. Please, answer me do not come up with shortcuts, tell me to use a different distro, or anything of the like. Straight answer please. |
| 23:17.06 | ChrisBradley | what is cdda and are there any other requirements? |
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| 23:17.10 | Anders | and the DVD-ROM keeps being noisy |
| 23:17.28 | goron | It could be hard-coded in my cheapass router. |
| 23:17.42 | ChrisBradley | Will the mandrake 9.2 version of xcdroast work with mandrake 9.1 any suggestions? |
| 23:18.06 | Vegar | Why won't dpkg-buildpackage include the files in debian/tmp/ in the .deb it generates? |
| 23:18.41 | beardy | ChrisBradley: This is #debian. Ask #mandrake or whoever else. |
| 23:18.46 | Gnea | ok wtf... i ran tzconfig to change my timezone, then /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart and it still hasn't taken proper effect |
| 23:18.50 | chealer | Anders: what happens if you try to kill xine? |
| 23:18.52 | ChrisBradley | Thanks |
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| 23:19.01 | Anders | chealer, it doesn't work, ps aux says xine is defunct |
| 23:19.16 | dvs | Gnea: It depends if your computer's timeclock is set to UTC or not. |
| 23:19.25 | Gnea | dvs: in the bios? |
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| 23:19.30 | dvs | Gnea: yes |
| 23:19.32 | goedson | Vegar: Is it a multi-binary source package? |
| 23:19.41 | Gnea | shit, it's the main server too |
| 23:19.45 | Vegar | goedson: a library package |
| 23:19.55 | dvs | Gnea: Actually, before I assume something, why is the time wrong? |
| 23:19.57 | Gnea | dvs: i just moved 2 hours and got the system back up a little while ago |
| 23:20.10 | Gnea | dvs: i moved from the midwest to the west coast :) |
| 23:20.12 | Vegar | goedson: I just noticed there are package-name and package-name-dev directories. Could that be related? |
| 23:20.32 | chealer | Anders: hum, could you clarify what ps aux says? does it really use the term "defunct"? |
| 23:20.33 | dvs | Gnea: Is your BIOS clock set to local time? |
| 23:20.41 | Gnea | i dunno |
| 23:20.42 | goedson | Vegar: Yep. You should put your files in debian/binary-package-name |
| 23:20.46 | Gnea | it's just set |
| 23:20.51 | dvs | Gnea: I'd check it |
| 23:20.56 | Gnea | when i moved from the east coast to the midwest it reset just fine |
| 23:21.01 | Anders | chealer, it did really say defunct. although, i managed to kill it now |
| 23:21.05 | dvs | Gnea: Oh. You use ntpdate or something like that? |
| 23:21.05 | Vegar | goedson: ah, ok |
| 23:21.06 | Gnea | i did a tzconfig and ran ntpdate then |
| 23:21.12 | Gnea | dvs: yeah |
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| 23:21.18 | Vegar | goedson: should it be done in debian/rules? |
| 23:21.22 | Gnea | dvs: i just tried rdate too, nada - something elsewhere is hosed |
| 23:21.36 | dvs | Gnea: Ok. then the BIOS clock shouldn't matter then. |
| 23:21.52 | Gnea | cat /etc/timezone |
| 23:21.53 | Gnea | America/Phoenix |
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| 23:22.09 | Gnea | Sat Aug 13 16:22:01 MST 2005 |
| 23:22.19 | abrotman | mountain ? |
| 23:22.24 | dvs | Gnea: That's an hour off? |
| 23:22.31 | Gnea | it's 4:22pm here |
| 23:22.36 | abrotman | Gnea: you moved to mississippi! |
| 23:22.37 | goedson | Vegar: Yes You should do it in debian/rules. |
| 23:22.40 | dvs | Gnea: doesn't mountain have saving time too? |
| 23:22.51 | Gnea | dvs: actually no, this state doesn't. |
| 23:23.04 | Gnea | but my phones both say 4:22pm |
| 23:23.14 | Vegar | goedson: ah |
| 23:23.24 | dvs | Gnea: Then what's the problem? |
| 23:23.34 | Gnea | dvs: my stomach is empty. |
| 23:23.35 | Gnea | :) |
| 23:23.41 | dvs | !beer Gnea |
| 23:23.54 | goedson | Vegar: If you're using debhelper, it should do this for you. You install into debian/tmp and with package-name.install you say which files should be in that package. |
| 23:23.54 | Gnea | ah, gracias |
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| 23:24.15 | Vegar | goedson: Just wondering, what is a multi-binary package? |
| 23:24.37 | dv__ | a package with several binaries for several architectures I guess |
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| 23:24.48 | goedson | Vegar: A source package that generates multiple-binary packages. |
| 23:25.01 | dv__ | ha |
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| 23:25.17 | goedson | Vegar: It's your case. |
| 23:25.18 | drac | So it's just a normal source package.. |
| 23:25.59 | goedson | drac: Yes, one that generates more than one binary package. |
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| 23:26.20 | Vegar | I see |
| 23:26.26 | Vegar | goedson: thanks |
| 23:26.59 | goedson | Vegar: You're welcome. |
| 23:29.11 | sigma957 | there is a message on bootup that I'd like to read, it's something about tmp files I think, comes when it's reading my fstab. I have looked in syslog, messages, I can't find it. Any suggestions about where to look? |
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| 23:29.24 | dvs | sigma957: dmesg |
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| 23:30.36 | sigma957 | dvs: the setup of the hard drives is there, but no error messages of any sort |
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| 23:35.15 | DaDave | hi all |
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| 23:35.21 | DaDave | is tomcat 5 available for debian? |
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| 23:36.16 | sigma957 | DaDave did you do an apt-cache search on it? |
| 23:36.32 | dv__ | aw man. I hate windows rot. |
| 23:37.15 | DaDave | sigma957: yeah returns that tomcat 5 is only availbale on experimental and there are not all dependent packages availabel. |
| 23:37.53 | sigma957 | DaDave:well then, short of compiling it yourself, I guess the answer is no |
| 23:38.47 | DaDave | sigma957: I hate compiling things, even if this is easy with tomcat. but i wanted to have a package where tomcat is integrated in the init process of debian. |
| 23:39.24 | sigma957 | DaDave: well you'll have to wait for it to work it's way into either testing or unstable |
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| 23:40.08 | DaDave | sigma957: i found some site with google which serves tomcat 5 deb packages. but i don't know if i can trust the site. |
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| 23:41.11 | sigma957 | DaDave: living with unstable is enough of an adventure for me! |
| 23:42.19 | DaDave | sigma957: yeah true. but i think unstable is not that hard. i have used it for years on production systems and never got a big problem. |
| 23:43.21 | DaDave | sigma957: but having to live with all the old things (stable has tomcat 4 and 4 is very outdated) is also not very nice. |
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| 23:51.47 | gentgeen__ | DaDave, did you check backports.org ? |
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| 23:53.02 | gentgeen__ | o-well, just answered my own -- not there |
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| 23:54.18 | kimo | I am dual booting xp & linux. Can I run xp (raw version) under qemu under linux ? |
| 23:54.25 | gentgeen__ | SerajewelKS, did you get your KDM thing figured out? |
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| 23:56.14 | SharkY | any one used outofoffice with sendmail? |
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