| 00:00.06 | maq0r | What is qdisc_get_rtab? |
| 00:00.13 | maq0r | is it QoS stuff? |
| 00:00.16 | Thanatermesis | ricky_clarkson, Im in Elive in this moments and Im looking the partitions mounted in the system, all with "exec" option, but "ls -la" not show +x to all files, only the correct files to have this... another person speaks me "exec is for give the posibility of execute files, noexec is for not posible to execute" |
| 00:00.51 | nkuttler | Thanatermesis: exec is default... it doesn't set everthing to +x |
| 00:00.56 | cmartine | im running swatch but it runs slow, anyway to speed it up to near realtime? |
| 00:01.05 | ricky_clarkson | nkuttler: It does for vfat though, iirc. |
| 00:01.06 | nkuttler | Thanatermesis: man mount |
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| 00:01.15 | foo | dvs: And when I do /etc/rc.d/networking restart - right? |
| 00:01.22 | nkuttler | ricky_clarkson: are we talking vfat here? |
| 00:01.24 | ricky_clarkson | No. |
| 00:01.25 | dvs | foo: Right |
| 00:01.32 | ricky_clarkson | But it was undefined until just now. |
| 00:01.48 | uml | i have a complicated situation, when i load uml and don't halt it properly there is a lock |
| 00:01.48 | uml | put on the disk image and later on you wont be able to load uml, is there anyway to remove |
| 00:02.01 | uml | i have a complicated situation, when i load uml and don't halt it properly there is a lock |
| 00:02.01 | uml | put on the disk image and later on you wont be able to load uml, is there anyway to remove |
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| 00:02.14 | nkuttler | ricky_clarkson: in fact, no ""ls -la" not show +x to all files, only the correct files" |
| 00:02.16 | uml | oh sorry for the duplicate |
| 00:02.33 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: the .config is totally different; there are a ton of things that the xen configuration doesn't support. |
| 00:02.39 | Thanatermesis | ok, thanks all |
| 00:02.58 | ricky_clarkson | nkuttler: The dialog didn't start there. |
| 00:03.17 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: it's getting on my nerves, i can patch but can't compile... kinda defeats the whole purpose |
| 00:03.44 | Aonix | I'm trying to upgrade my system (testing) and when it comes to kdelibs, it want to remove every applications, is there a bug I can't see in the bug list? Am I the only one having this problem? |
| 00:03.55 | foo | dvs: Thanks |
| 00:03.59 | foo | Gnea: Hello |
| 00:04.04 | dvs | foo: No problem |
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| 00:04.19 | nkuttler | Aonix: why does it want to remove everything? |
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| 00:04.39 | Aonix | nkuttler : To update it, it says "The following package will be REMOVED..." |
| 00:04.53 | zepeuga | why amule isn't in testing repositories ? |
| 00:04.56 | Nwallins | newb way to install new kernel is `apt-get install kernel-image-blah && init 6` ? |
| 00:04.59 | nkuttler | Aonix: so don't update it |
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| 00:05.04 | Axioplase | Hi |
| 00:05.34 | Aonix | nkuttler : But is this a problem that will be fixed in a future package of kdelibs? |
| 00:05.55 | Axioplase | I just isntalled mysql on a stable. I'd like to run it, but it looks like it can't create the /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock file, and therefor, it won't run... |
| 00:05.59 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: hrm... you may need to move away the old configuration and use the --arch=xen option to make-kpkg |
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| 00:06.03 | nkuttler | Aonix: you're running testing, such things happen |
| 00:06.08 | Axioplase | Is there something I missed ? |
| 00:06.10 | Aonix | nkuttler : ok |
| 00:06.16 | foo | How can I check to see if a package is installed? |
| 00:06.19 | nkuttler | Aonix: /msg dpkg hold if you want |
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| 00:06.29 | ricky_clarkson | foo: dpkg -l | grep packagename |
| 00:06.29 | eutopia | is there a program to search a whole folder for text inside files? |
| 00:06.38 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: i was just trying to make oldconfig && make |
| 00:06.39 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: find . -type f |xargs grep footext; |
| 00:06.40 | foo | ricky_clarkson: thanks |
| 00:06.48 | h2k | is there any easy way to downgrade from sid to sarge? |
| 00:06.50 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: wow, cool, thanks :) |
| 00:06.52 | Supaplex | grep -r |
| 00:06.56 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: ah; yeah, you'll need to make ARCH=xen oldconfig; or similar |
| 00:06.56 | Aonix | nkuttler : it's already holding the packages... ;) I just want to remove it from the "not upgraded packages" :) |
| 00:06.56 | Axioplase | eutopia: grep |
| 00:06.56 | nkuttler | h2k: no |
| 00:06.57 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: yeah, i saw that in a doc somewhere, i'll give it a try later |
| 00:06.57 | dvs | h2k: no |
| 00:07.04 | cmartine | im running swatch but it runs slow, anyway to speed it up to near realtime? |
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| 00:07.06 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: may I ask how you know so much? :) how long you been using linux? |
| 00:07.12 | Gnea | hrm |
| 00:07.34 | Axioplase | eutopia: "grep text /path/to/dir/*" |
| 00:07.36 | Agrajag- | gday. in my syslog yesterday i've found "init: Trying to re-exec init" - and a few seconds later, these: "inetd[26383]: getpwnam: root: No such user", "inetd[26420]: getpwnam: mail: No such user" - the machine seems to be behaving fine now though - is this something i should be worried about? |
| 00:07.38 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: yeah, I went through this a few days ago trying to get 2.6.11 to build for xen... |
| 00:08.01 | maq0r | Anyone knows what module/option in the kernel activates qdisc_get_rtab ? |
| 00:08.08 | maq0r | I've activated everything in the QoS tab |
| 00:08.09 | maq0r | no luck |
| 00:08.10 | Agrajag- | actually i see a "inetd[26307]: getpwnam: root: No such user" before the init re-exec |
| 00:08.12 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: oh THANK YOU |
| 00:08.14 | h2k | was afraid of that .. but any ideas why mplayer won't compile with sid? tried various gcc's, doesn't seem to be mplayer's fault either, it built fine before .. |
| 00:08.15 | eutopia | Axioplase: ty |
| 00:08.39 | nkuttler | h2k: why build yourself? |
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| 00:08.57 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: I've been using it for quite some time; it also helps to read the manpages. |
| 00:09.17 | h2k | nkuttler, i have old box here, i get better performace this way + some things might actually work |
| 00:09.37 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: np |
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| 00:09.42 | h2k | it was really depressing when 2 movies refused to play with binary mplayer |
| 00:09.50 | mud | im trying to install k3b, getting error depends on libqt3c102-mt but its not installable and i cant find it in any of the unstable repositories should i install stable versions of missing dependencies or is it bad to mix stable with unstable? |
| 00:09.51 | nkuttler | h2k: feed the compile error to google (or try to understand it) |
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| 00:10.33 | nkuttler | h2k: sure you're not missing some codecs? |
| 00:10.43 | h2k | nkuttler, tried that, tried #mplayer, but no luck |
| 00:11.05 | mud | is k3b working in unstable? |
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| 00:11.07 | nkuttler | h2k: you could still get the source from marillat and build that |
| 00:11.09 | h2k | nkuttler, it built fine before, now it didn't build the older version either |
| 00:11.10 | maq0r | anyone knows which option in the kernel menuconfig (2.4) activates qdisc_get_rtab? I've activated everything in QoS but no luck so far. Thank you! |
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| 00:12.07 | h2k | nkuttler, i tried to install marillat's binary but couldn't resolve the dependencies, i don't think i'll have better luck with sources |
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| 00:12.14 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: any idea how you can get find . -type f |xargs grep footext to show found text as highlighted? |
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| 00:12.30 | nkuttler | h2k: what dependencies? |
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| 00:12.47 | maq0r | anyone knows which option in the kernel menuconfig (2.4) activates qdisc_get_rtab? I've activated everything in QoS but no luck so far. Thank you! |
| 00:12.55 | nkuttler | maq0r: stop repeating |
| 00:13.13 | maq0r | I waited 5 minutes before asking it again, how much should I wait in between? |
| 00:13.20 | h2k | nkuttler, don't remember, couldn't find them in sid and aptitude didn't find them in marillat's repo either |
| 00:13.30 | nkuttler | 02:13 < maq0r> I waited 5 minutes before asking it again, how much should I |
| 00:13.39 | nkuttler | shit |
| 00:13.50 | dvs | nksen: stop repeating ;-) |
| 00:13.51 | nkuttler | well, this is the intarweb, i won't start to argue about that |
| 00:14.09 | eutopia | why doesnt grep recognise long filename files? |
| 00:14.17 | Nwallins | hmm.. installed 2.6 kernel and my system hangs on boot, last message concerns agpgart.. this is a text-only server.. should i disable something in /etc/modules.conf? |
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| 00:14.43 | maq0r | This is killing me |
| 00:14.44 | nkuttler | eutopia: because you didn't put quotes around them? |
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| 00:16.47 | green_earz | maq0r: on the stardard kernel use modconf and track down QoS and you will see what modules are enabled. |
| 00:16.56 | maq0r | Thank you. |
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| 00:17.41 | maq0r | Oh green_earz I can see which ones are enabled, I need to find out what's the option to activate an specific module |
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| 00:17.48 | maq0r | int his case, qdisc_get_rtab |
| 00:17.50 | eutopia | is there a frontend for grep? |
| 00:18.13 | foo | I really like the Auditor security distro, it's tools, and what not. However, I want to use those tools with debian, because 1) I want a hd installation, and 2) knoppix hd installer sucks. How can I do this? Can I copy over apt-gets list and then get each tool from here? http://new.remote-exploit.org/index.php/Auditor_tools |
| 00:18.59 | maq0r | There is no where where I can check something like : qdisc_get_rtab : Networking Options -> xxxx -> yyyy option. |
| 00:19.04 | maq0r | So I can activate it |
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| 00:19.26 | eutopia | nkuttler: frontend of grep? |
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| 00:20.28 | nkuttler | eutopia: hmmm, bash? |
| 00:20.42 | uml | hi, i have a complicated situation, when i load uml and don't halt it properly there is a lock put on the disk image and later on you wont be able to load uml, is there anyway to remove this lock on the disk image??????? reallly appreciate anyones' help |
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| 00:22.04 | eutopia | nkuttler: whats the command to get grep to highlight all found words? |
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| 00:22.44 | nkuttler | eutopia: some versions of grep can do colored output, man grep |
| 00:22.52 | ArodS2000 | I need help configuring exim4 to allow external mail delivery. Currently it is set to local delivery only. |
| 00:22.58 | Nwallins | so, my system hangs on boot, after hotplug fires up and tries to load agpgart.. can I disable this somehow? |
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| 00:23.23 | dvs | Nwallins: blacklist it. |
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| 00:23.32 | eutopia | nkuttler: what version do you have? |
| 00:23.35 | uml | i guess my problem is unsolvable |
| 00:24.00 | Nwallins | dvs: checking thanks |
| 00:24.05 | nkuttler | eutopia: how is that relevant? |
| 00:24.07 | ArodS2000 | can someone help me with my config file for exim4 to allow external delivery |
| 00:24.22 | green_earz | maq0r: http://mailman.ds9a.nl/mailman/listinfo/lartc/ |
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| 00:24.38 | jason^ | if i'm using testing, what kernel should i use? |
| 00:24.47 | eutopia | nkuttler: settle down, please relax. I was only asking, no need to get upset. |
| 00:24.54 | dvs | jason^: Whichever one works. |
| 00:25.12 | nkuttler | eutopia: uh, i'm not upset. at least, not yet :) |
| 00:25.17 | jason^ | dvs: well i want some extra features, i'm not sure if 2.6.8 would be better than 2.6.11 |
| 00:25.29 | eutopia | nkuttler: fyi. the command is "grep --colour filename *.*" |
| 00:25.33 | jason^ | i'm using 2.6.11 right now |
| 00:25.34 | dvs | jason^: What features do you want? |
| 00:25.41 | eutopia | nkuttler: ok :) |
| 00:25.43 | nkuttler | eutopia: i know. if your grep supports it |
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| 00:25.56 | eutopia | nkuttler: it does now! I just updated grep ;) |
| 00:26.06 | jason^ | dvs: cpu speed scaling for my laptop |
| 00:26.26 | Nwallins | are hotplug and discover specific to 2.6? |
| 00:26.30 | dvs | jason^: I have no idea about that. |
| 00:26.44 | nkuttler | Nwallins: no |
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| 00:27.22 | jason^ | i tried building my own kernel but it says that it can't find sda4, which is my root partition |
| 00:27.53 | dvs | jason^: That usually means that your SCSI controller was not built into the module. |
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| 00:28.06 | dvs | into the kernel I mean |
| 00:28.13 | Nwallins | so, add 'agpgart' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist? and add 'skip agpgart' to /etc/discover.conf ? |
| 00:28.31 | Jordie | I'm currently running testing. In order to install alsa-utils I need to upgrade "udev" from unstable. Where can I find more information on upgrading a single package like this? |
| 00:28.31 | eutopia | jason^: you experienced in building your own kernel? |
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| 00:28.35 | jason^ | dvs: the module should have been built in |
| 00:29.05 | jason^ | eutopia: i have before, i'm just not certain what hardware this laptop has and what matches up with the kernel config |
| 00:29.16 | concept10 | may I use VMWare on sarge and use a external usb drive to mount the image? |
| 00:29.26 | dvs | jason^: A laptop with a SCSI controller? |
| 00:29.33 | fanopnaic | ouch, are the newer lftp versions with TLS supposed to work with SSL? |
| 00:29.42 | jason^ | i copied a working config from 2.6.11 and tried to use it with 2.6.12.5, but that didn't work |
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| 00:29.47 | jason^ | dvs: it's a SATA drive |
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| 00:30.28 | dvs | jason^: Debian kernels are build mostly as modules. |
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| 00:30.36 | acerimusdux | I upgraded to sarge several weeks ago, and my GIMP hasn't worked since. |
| 00:30.56 | Nwallins | agpgart still tries to load.. ??? |
| 00:31.00 | nkuttler | acerimusdux: why not? |
| 00:31.39 | jason^ | dvs: but i did use the old config, that didn't work... i didn't think that options changed that much between versions |
| 00:32.02 | acerimusdux | I get an error that says "The Ginp requires Fontconfig version 2.20 or later" - but I have 2.3.1-2 installed |
| 00:32.23 | dvs | jason^: I said that Debian kernels are mostly built as modules. that means that chances are you SATA controller is built as a module. |
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| 00:32.55 | nkuttler | acerimusdux: 2.3 < 2.20 in version speak i'd say |
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| 00:33.11 | jason^ | dvs: i want it to not be a module, correct? |
| 00:33.16 | dvs | jason^: yes |
| 00:33.21 | nkuttler | acerimusdux: what's your gimp version? |
| 00:33.35 | jason^ | ok well the one lspci says i have is the one that i have built in the kernel |
| 00:33.52 | acerimusdux | The error message also says "This may be caused by another instance of libfontconfig.so.1 being installed in the system, probably in /usr/X11R6/lib" |
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| 00:34.25 | acerimusdux | The error says requires verion 2.2.0 or higher (sorry) |
| 00:34.57 | acerimusdux | Both versions are the latest debian stable; I also tried reconfiguring both with debconfig |
| 00:35.08 | dvs | jason^: lspci lists the devices on your PCI bus regardless if it's built into your kernel or not. |
| 00:35.09 | drac | acerimusdux: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.. or have you installed fontconfig or xorg or xfree86 from unofficial sources? |
| 00:35.49 | acerimusdux | I upgraged with aptitude, which is a front end to apt-get |
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| 00:36.19 | nkuttler | acerimusdux: check the bts |
| 00:36.28 | Nwallins | i'm still having trouble preventing agpgart from loading. there's nothing about it in /etc/modules added it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and 'skip' in /etc/discover.conf |
| 00:36.33 | acerimusdux | bts? |
| 00:36.42 | nkuttler | acerimusdux: /msg dpkg bts |
| 00:37.20 | cactus | Could anybody help me out with a mysql server, i recently installed and I am missing /var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock |
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| 00:37.53 | dondelelcaro | cactus: if you are, then the mysql server hasn't started properly, or it's not configured to put the socket in the ideal location |
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| 00:40.02 | cactus | dondelelcaro, How else would I start the server? I used apt-get to install, and after installing it tried to start the server and that was the error, I also tried using '/etc/init.d/mysql start' |
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| 00:40.29 | dondelelcaro | cactus: paste the complete output of the apt-get install run using the paster bot |
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| 00:41.05 | DeepB | hi, i need an i386 bootloader who can: a) boot using VESA modes >= 800x600 , b) boot from or reside on a ext2/ext3 partition or MBR. Why? My monitor is broken and doesn't show up text mode or lower resolutions. Any pointers? |
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| 00:42.00 | dondelelcaro | DeepB: eh? how do you operate the your bios then? |
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| 00:43.29 | DeepB | dondelelcaro: i can't, i usually plug another monitor for doing so |
| 00:43.34 | mud | is k3b broken in debian ? |
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| 00:44.01 | Samp3s | hi |
| 00:44.02 | nkuttler | mud: /msg dpkg bts |
| 00:44.07 | Samp3s | im trying to use the net install |
| 00:44.12 | dondelelcaro | DeepB: well, in this case you shouldn't actually need to ever see the bootloader if you configure it properly. |
| 00:44.17 | Samp3s | but it doesnt dettect my network dhcp |
| 00:44.19 | Nwallins | googled for similar problem and solution was to remove all framebuffer support from kernel... how to do this? |
| 00:44.28 | dondelelcaro | DeepB: so grub should work appropriately for what you need to do |
| 00:44.31 | nkuttler | Samp3s: is the interface up? |
| 00:45.31 | DeepB | dondelelcaro: several kernels in there, and they change often, i need to see what's in there |
| 00:45.45 | cactus | dondelelcaro, http://channels.debian.net/paste/572 |
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| 00:50.20 | Nwallins | anybody know how to disable framebuffer support in 2.6 kernel? |
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| 00:50.45 | DeepB | dondelelcaro: are you talking about grub legacy (0.9x) or grub2 (1.9x)? |
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| 00:51.16 | ray | my monitor power save is not working........the screensaver freezes and my monitor does not shut off? |
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| 00:52.10 | ray | Nwallins: i think if you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 00:52.13 | xerophyte | how can i check all the service running on the debian like chkconfig --list in redhat .. how can i check on the redhat |
| 00:52.16 | xerophyte | i mean debian |
| 00:52.22 | DeepB | Nwallins: CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=n |
| 00:52.27 | Nwallins | ray: thanks, but i haven't installed any x |
| 00:52.28 | nkuttler | Nwallins: compile without? maybe a vga=something (ask) will do |
| 00:52.45 | Nwallins | DeepB: in a kernel compile? |
| 00:53.15 | DeepB | yep, that's what you asked, didn't you? |
| 00:53.29 | Nwallins | well, i am working off of an image right now |
| 00:53.37 | Nwallins | 2.4 works fine 2.6 hangs |
| 00:53.39 | dondelelcaro | DeepB: that's why you can boot, and edit the menu.lst appropriately. I'm talking about the 0.9x versions of grub |
| 00:54.00 | ray | my monitor power save is not working........the screensaver freezes and my monitor does not shut off? |
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| 00:55.09 | DeepB | Nwallins: try using vga=normal when booting |
| 00:55.20 | Nwallins | hrm, where does that go? |
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| 00:55.33 | dob2 | hi |
| 00:55.42 | gravity | ... |
| 00:56.10 | DeepB | dondelelcaro: yes, i can boot, but i can't edit the boot entries, nor i know first hand wth i'm booting, i'm completely blind using grub |
| 00:56.17 | Nwallins | DeepB: grub config, eh? |
| 00:56.18 | dondelelcaro | DeepB: it may also be possible to get grub to switch to a vidmode that will work; but I personally haven't played with that. Your other alternative is to use a serial console. |
| 00:56.48 | dob2 | i don't remember that there is an environment variable that i can use to setup the proxy, someone remember what is ? |
| 00:56.59 | dondelelcaro | dob2: HTTP_PROXY |
| 00:57.11 | DeepB | Nwallins: /boot/grub/menu.lst, append the string to the desired kernel entry |
| 00:57.21 | Nwallins | duh, thanks |
| 00:57.31 | dondelelcaro | s/PROXY/proxy/ |
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| 00:57.48 | xixor | Hey everyone |
| 00:58.08 | ray | hello |
| 00:58.33 | xixor | hows it going? |
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| 00:58.59 | dob2 | dondelelcaro: then export HTTP_PROXY="ip of proxy" ? right ? |
| 00:59.00 | ray | great.....if i could just get power save to work |
| 00:59.10 | xixor | laptop? |
| 00:59.17 | ray | nope |
| 00:59.28 | xixor | what is power save? |
| 00:59.33 | ray | i just want my monitor to shut off |
| 00:59.34 | DeepB | dondelelcaro: nope, grub can't use graphical modes... (sure it can vbeprobe, but that doesn't work for listing entries) there's a bootsplash patch (i think it made it to sid) but it only does 640x480 VGA |
| 00:59.38 | dob2 | because don't work :) |
| 01:00.01 | ray | huh? |
| 01:00.10 | dondelelcaro | dob2: no, you specify the URL of the http proxy there. |
| 01:00.18 | xixor | ray: ahh |
| 01:00.29 | xixor | ray: X automatically blanks the screen, is that not enough I suppose eh? |
| 01:00.34 | dob2 | dondelelcaro: i have only the ip, is a local proxy |
| 01:00.50 | ray | xixor: yea that would be enough ......... if it did it....mine doesnt |
| 01:00.51 | dondelelcaro | dob2: it would still be http://fooip:fooport/ or similar. |
| 01:01.30 | dondelelcaro | dob2: and again, not everything obeys HTTP_PROXY; wget does, as does apt-get. |
| 01:01.33 | xixor | ray : I find that very strange |
| 01:01.38 | ray | xixor: as do i |
| 01:01.47 | dob2 | dondelelcaro: links ? |
| 01:01.47 | ray | xixor: it has never done this before |
| 01:01.53 | xixor | ray : I remember a while back, someone trying to make X not blank the screen, and it took them forever to figure out how to do that |
| 01:01.56 | dob2 | works whith this? |
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| 01:02.12 | dondelelcaro | dob2: links should as well. |
| 01:02.34 | xixor | ray : X.org? |
| 01:02.38 | dondelelcaro | DeepB: yeah, that's kind of what I figured. You could just set up a serial console to do it for now; grub has no problem with that. |
| 01:02.40 | xerophyte | where can i find the chkrootkit .45 deb |
| 01:02.51 | ray | xixor: well xfree86 at the moment.........im running sarge |
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| 01:04.44 | xixor | ray: what about configuring xscreensaver to load a blank screen saver? |
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| 01:05.07 | ray | xixor: yeah but i want the monitor to shut off.... |
| 01:05.16 | ray | xixor: preferably |
| 01:05.39 | Nwallins | vga=normal didn't help :( |
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| 01:06.12 | xixor | ray : Have you looked into apci? |
| 01:06.24 | xixor | er, acpi |
| 01:06.28 | adminsds | szukam pomocy |
| 01:06.44 | adminsds | w kewsti debiana |
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| 01:06.52 | ray | xixor: nope |
| 01:06.58 | adminsds | ?? |
| 01:07.01 | ray | xixor: how would i do that? |
| 01:07.05 | bob_ | what is debians (sarge) stock support for onboard sata controllers like? |
| 01:07.13 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: try #debian.pl |
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| 01:07.32 | dondelelcaro | bob_: depends on the controller; if the kernel supports it, it works fine. |
| 01:07.33 | adminsds | ok |
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| 01:08.08 | bob_ | dondelelcaro, okay :| |
| 01:08.44 | xixor | ray : Just wondering, acpi is a power management system, like apm or something, I dont know much myself |
| 01:08.52 | xixor | ray : but it might have the power to shut off your monitor |
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| 01:10.05 | nadjyla | good bye |
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| 01:12.06 | adminsds | I have such problem I have pod³aczone 3 network cards and how w³aczam second ifconfig inet 83.23.23.23 this this first stops dow and two hung sa kaby |
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| 01:12.49 | jim | wait, what? you're having a baby? |
| 01:12.57 | adminsds | both May ip zewnetrzne |
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| 01:13.21 | kingtux | Is there a compression flag that can be used with tar?? |
| 01:13.30 | dondelelcaro | kingtux: z or j; man tar. |
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| 01:13.43 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: use the paster bot to paste your /etc/network/interfaces; configuration file. |
| 01:13.46 | dondelelcaro | !tell adminsds -about paster |
| 01:13.58 | kingtux | I have a dds tape drive 12/24gig |
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| 01:14.07 | kingtux | but can only fit 12 gigs |
| 01:14.10 | jim | sure, but you can also pipe it from/to any compressor that will compress and decompress from a stream |
| 01:14.26 | kingtux | dds3 |
| 01:14.42 | jim | note that compression is not recommended for this purpose... |
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| 01:14.43 | dondelelcaro | kingtux: yes, that's the actual size, the 24G is marketing based on a "compression ratio" of 2:1 |
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| 01:15.06 | jim | use tar splitting and mul;tiple tapes |
| 01:15.21 | kingtux | I'me doing that...but i figured it said 24 gigs |
| 01:15.31 | kingtux | save me on some tapes |
| 01:15.32 | lakcaj | Who's a guy gotta kill to get 1024x768 out of the box from the netinstall? I've tried using the "simple" configuration and selecting the largest monitor, and I also tried "medium" and chose 1024x768x60Hz, but I always end up with 800x600 and having to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. |
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| 01:16.05 | kingtux | dondelelcaro...don't understand |
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| 01:16.22 | jim | lakcaj: depends on if your monitor and video card can do that res, and if your video card is supported by x... prolly you woulnjd't have to kill anyone |
| 01:16.38 | adminsds | private plis |
| 01:16.47 | jim | not a chance :) |
| 01:16.53 | dondelelcaro | kingtux: in marketing backup tapes, it's standard practice to give numbers, the first being the actual size, the second being the size of an "ideal data set" that will fit. |
| 01:16.57 | plb | hrm where do linux-kernel-headers get installed to? |
| 01:17.06 | dondelelcaro | plb: dpkg -L linux-kernel-headers |
| 01:17.20 | plb | thanks |
| 01:17.21 | jim | look in /usr/src or do the dpkg -L thing |
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| 01:17.23 | Danar | o |
| 01:17.25 | kingtux | so is that like false advertisment?? |
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| 01:17.44 | jim | advertisement? where? kickban time! :) |
| 01:17.47 | lakcaj | jim, well, it is an lcd device on a laptop, which is native 1024x768 using the ati driver for a mobility 7500, but still 800x600, on every single machine I've installed on. |
| 01:17.47 | dondelelcaro | kingtux: who knows? It's been done that way for so long that anyone who knows what they're doing ignores the second number |
| 01:18.09 | adminsds | how law networking this is the same sie net hangs |
| 01:18.13 | Danar | i'm about to install something in synaptic, and it says some packages couldn't be authenticated, but there's nothing under the drop-down list for non-authenticated packages, so how am i supposed to know which package it is? |
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| 01:18.25 | jim | lakcaj: maybe you will have to install debian first then go back and support your card |
| 01:18.55 | jim | anyways gotta go |
| 01:18.56 | cappicard | oh my! http://saiya-jin.is-a-geek.com/pub/video/camel_toe.wmv NWS!!! |
| 01:19.08 | lakcaj | jim, I get it working in the end, no problem, but I would like to not have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 when I specify the resolution I want during the install. |
| 01:19.11 | lakcaj | jim, thanks |
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| 01:19.32 | adminsds | you have jakies hints why zawiesz sie network card |
| 01:19.56 | jim | lakcaj: maybe -maybe- dpkg-reconfigure ... causes the monitor to report its specs to a config file writer |
| 01:20.03 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: use the paster bot to paste your /etc/network/interfaces; configuration file. |
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| 01:20.10 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: only then will we be able to help you. |
| 01:20.31 | lakcaj | jim, possibility |
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| 01:20.54 | jim | if this is the case, it will be handy ev ery time you change monitors |
| 01:21.01 | mite_ | someone has of the repository for debian64? |
| 01:21.03 | jim | ok really gone |
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| 01:21.37 | lakcaj | jim, thanks again |
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| 01:22.01 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: keep it in the channel, please. |
| 01:22.09 | adminsds | ok |
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| 01:23.37 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: if you're having a hard time in english, try debian-user-polish@lists.debian.org. |
| 01:24.20 | adminsds | in etc / netorwork / interfase be put on first karte ipf0 and how w³aczam second this sie hangs ³acze |
| 01:24.31 | mite_ | someone has of the repository for debian64? |
| 01:24.40 | dondelelcaro | mite_: amd64? or ia64? |
| 01:24.46 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: again, use the paster bot to paste the interfaces file. |
| 01:25.00 | mite_ | dondelelcaro, amd64 |
| 01:25.23 | dondelelcaro | !tell mite_ -about amd64 |
| 01:26.36 | adminsds | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.51 | adminsds | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.15 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: don't paste it here. http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood |
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| 01:27.42 | dondelelcaro | adminsds: or ask debian-user-polish@lists.debian.org if you don't understand english. |
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| 01:28.37 | Nwallins | is there a diff between kernel-image-2.4-686-smp and kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp ? |
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| 01:29.05 | nvz | I can't help but keep getting the feeling of deja vu with this conversation |
| 01:29.40 | dondelelcaro | Nwallins: yes, the former is just a meta package that points at the current kernel version |
| 01:29.50 | Nwallins | so, same result? |
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| 01:30.02 | nvz | if you say that one more time I will have to start calling you dondelecho |
| 01:30.02 | malex | Was libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 ever in Debian? I need that lib to run a binary, but a search on packages hasn't found anything. |
| 01:30.06 | dondelelcaro | Nwallins: currently, but possibly not in the future. |
| 01:30.12 | Nwallins | ok, thanks |
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| 01:30.44 | adminsdd | ok |
| 01:30.48 | adminsdd | mam |
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| 01:30.53 | dondelelcaro | !redhat crap |
| 01:30.53 | dpkg | redhat crap is, like, 'apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1' if you get 'libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file' (get it from woody if you use sarge or sid), or ** NEW redhat crap! If you're missing libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, it's in woody's libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package (get it from oldstable/woody archives since it's obsolete) |
| 01:30.56 | adminsdd | http://channels.debian.net/paste/573 |
| 01:31.25 | LordMyren | Oh good christ, Xscreensaver just gave me a wicked scare. Silly fake kernel panic errors. ;) |
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| 01:31.48 | foo | Hmm, I am working on my backups script, and pretty much I have a drive that I work off of, and a backup drive. I want to copy all the files that I am working on to the backup drive, and I want to make it so when I run the script it adds the files that /public has, but the backup drive doesn't .. I tried with this, but didn't work - rsync -Cav /public /mnt/hdd/20050801/public/ - any ideas? Looks right. |
| 01:32.18 | malex | dondelelcaro: Thanks for the tip - it is crap, but I must run that binary for my research and no source is available. |
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| 01:33.19 | dondelelcaro | adminsdd: 1) your broadcast is wrong 2) the network part is unecessary and wrong. 3) you don't have a default gateway. |
| 01:33.21 | poncho | Hello! |
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| 01:41.21 | Druke | Hello, i am using the basic debian cd, from debian.org, no gui, etc., i cant seem to get my ethernet card to work, now this si xchat of my ubuntu live cd, and it autoconfigs my ethernet card. so is the autoconfig an extra option? do i have to mount it like a drive? |
| 01:41.55 | GoatRoby | I need to re-install Windows, I've read online that I can use a Debian live CD to boot my system and re-install grub on the MBR. I currently have the netinstall image of Sarge but am unable to figure out how to boot to a prompt such that i can re-install grub, any suggestions? |
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| 01:43.26 | GoatRoby | Druke: when I installed debian, it autoconfig'd my eth devices |
| 01:43.38 | GoatRoby | sarge, 3.1 |
| 01:43.41 | aeacides | what a coincidence, i was just deleting windows |
| 01:43.41 | kbrooks | I declare my purpose of presence here as a detective. Now will you all yield to my power? |
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| 01:43.43 | GoatRoby | netinstall |
| 01:44.10 | epsilon | GoatRoby: boot from live-cd (or install-cd), mount installed dive, chroot in it and do whatever you want |
| 01:44.16 | GoatRoby | kbrooks: hehehe the software company i work for has given me a license for xp to do development from home |
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| 01:44.47 | kbrooks | cactus_: I hereby order that you join #archlinx as I have recently received news about you. |
| 01:44.55 | GoatRoby | epsilon: i must have missed something in the boot instructions, because I am unable to figure out how to get to a prompt, booting from the install cd that i have launches the installer |
| 01:45.10 | kbrooks | #archlinux |
| 01:45.40 | GoatRoby | err... that other msg was for aeacides and not for kbrooks |
| 01:45.54 | kbrooks | cactus_: you must obey me |
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| 01:48.31 | Tiggs | in order to install the nvidia drivers i need the source for the running kernel |
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| 01:48.52 | _eXoDuS | Tiggs: apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 01:49.00 | LordMyren | does anyone know how different in feature set gnutls and openssl are? |
| 01:49.07 | aeacides | is 5G really good enough for /usr? |
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| 01:49.39 | LordMyren | aeacides: not really. 6G is livable, and 7G you wont have to keep purging. |
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| 01:50.08 | aeacides | i have plenty of space |
| 01:50.10 | LordMyren | aeacides: then again, i have a habbit of installing stuff i think might be cool. i also am a pro at finding stuff to remvoe though. |
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| 01:50.18 | Tiggs | thanks _eXoDuS , will the source for any kernel i install automatically be downloaded? ive run into the problme of install a 2.6.8.2 and only finding source such as 2.6.8, and thats not good enough |
| 01:50.27 | beardy | aeacides: That depends on what you are going to do with the box. For some cases it is very much overkill, and for others it might be a bit too small. |
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| 01:50.43 | LordMyren | 8 is more than enough and i would recommend it if you have the space to use. otherwise 7. |
| 01:51.04 | LordMyren | i'm presuming desktop machine, on beardys thread |
| 01:51.06 | Tiggs | i find that usr is the biggest directory on my systems |
| 01:51.16 | aeacides | i'm trying to divide up a 250G drive. I've had a bad experience with convert running away with my /var before |
| 01:51.44 | aeacides | so i like to keep them separate |
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| 01:51.53 | Tiggs | if you install programs for all users, it gets big, mine usr is around 13 gigs used |
| 01:51.54 | LordMyren | not a bad plan. with 250, you can space the 8G for /usr. |
| 01:52.03 | LordMyren | wowza |
| 01:52.08 | LordMyren | impressive |
| 01:52.31 | Tiggs | most games install to usr/local/games/gamename |
| 01:52.39 | saboteur | i have seen idiots set up mail servers with only 2gb of /var ^_^ |
| 01:52.43 | Tiggs | and i tend to install big games :P |
| 01:52.53 | ricky_clarkson | Tiggs: Is Windows a big game? |
| 01:53.06 | Tiggs | no ricky_clarkson , Windows is a bug :P |
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| 01:53.15 | saboteur | ricky: no that goes in the clamav quarantine directory |
| 01:53.23 | xixor | yo |
| 01:53.33 | Tiggs | id say it was a virus , but viruses improve with each new version, windows however just gets worse |
| 01:53.45 | Tiggs | :P |
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| 01:54.56 | GoatRoby | Is it possible to get to a console from the netinst cd? |
| 01:55.22 | Tiggs | GoatRoby: isnt that were the netinstall cd leaves you? :P |
| 01:55.25 | TbbW | anyone know how to remove a "uninterruptible sleep" prosses? |
| 01:55.29 | TbbW | kill -9 wont work :/ |
| 01:55.35 | xixor | Hey everyone. I think that I have got the orinoco_cs driver loaded for my pcmcia wireless card now, but it still isnt' working. I get an error of eth2: failed to read MAC address! in syslog. After some googling, someone suggested this is a conflict in the pcmcia config. I changed the include ports as mentioned on some website, still no dice. Anyone have any advice? |
| 01:55.36 | Tiggs | if you in a X session |
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| 01:55.47 | Tiggs | open up an xterm, su, then type init 3 |
| 01:55.47 | beardy | GoatRoby: Alt-F2 |
| 01:56.19 | Tiggs | gtg time for class |
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| 01:57.06 | beardy | GoatRoby: And there is a menu choice at the bottom, "Start a console" or something, isn't it? |
| 01:57.26 | TbbW | anyone know if its possible at all to kill such prosess? |
| 01:57.29 | TbbW | or how to do it? |
| 01:58.52 | GoatRoby | beardy: no there is no choice to start a console that i can see, i'm given a "Boot:" prompt and i can press f1 for help. In the f1 help there is help on various boot parameters. Nothing about getting a console though |
| 01:59.16 | abrotman | GoatRoby: you haven't started the installer yet |
| 01:59.22 | beardy | GoatRoby: Oh, I thought you meant while running the installation. |
| 01:59.26 | abrotman | GoatRoby: you're only at the bootloader |
| 01:59.49 | GoatRoby | Oh, now i see what is meant when it says "boot the cd" |
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| 02:00.01 | GoatRoby | apologies for my slowness |
| 02:00.02 | bob2 | GoatRoby: boot. go through the install until you get to the partitioner. alt-f2. enjoy. |
| 02:00.13 | GoatRoby | thank you all |
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| 02:00.39 | ricky_clarkson | Do you think he was kicking it? |
| 02:00.42 | abrotman | !ops _soulreaper notification spam |
| 02:00.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: _soulreaper notification spam |
| 02:00.49 | Wammpire | hi |
| 02:00.58 | abrotman | bah |
| 02:01.02 | Wammpire | alguem do brasil? |
| 02:01.03 | abrotman | er .. shit |
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| 02:01.06 | abrotman | mentor: wait |
| 02:01.23 | abrotman | mentor: he's gone? |
| 02:01.25 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 02:01.48 | abrotman | -_souIreaper- welcome to #debian. #debian is sponsored by the GNAA. Are you gay? Are you a nigger? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA might be just what you are looking for! http://www.gnaa.us/ . This notice done with permission from tarzeau. |
| 02:01.52 | abrotman | mentor: that's what i got |
| 02:02.03 | TbbW | lol |
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| 02:02.22 | mentor | bob2: I don't see anything |
| 02:02.27 | abrotman | i thought it was _soulreaper .. but that's souI not soul |
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| 02:02.44 | mentor | abrotman: uh? |
| 02:02.51 | bob2 | neither |
| 02:02.58 | abrotman | mentor: it was a notify from the guy .. |
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| 02:03.21 | poncho | hi |
| 02:03.22 | abrotman | --- [_souIreaper] (n=kbrooks@gamestar.iseek.com.au) : knb |
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| 02:03.44 | abrotman | well . i tried :) |
| 02:04.00 | abrotman | it wasn't on join .. i guess just targeted at me .. sorry to disturb |
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| 02:04.12 | bob2 | thanks for poitning it out |
| 02:04.20 | abrotman | bob2: does it make sense? |
| 02:04.25 | mentor | no wait. |
| 02:04.40 | mentor | abrotman: yeah, thanks. |
| 02:04.47 | abrotman | it does? .. I'm not crazy? |
| 02:04.48 | abrotman | !win me |
| 02:04.50 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:05.01 | mentor | abrotman: I never said anything about your sanity. |
| 02:05.06 | mentor | abrotman: You're as sane as I am. |
| 02:05.21 | poncho | How do i preserve file permisions to devices that are automatically detected, eg. /dev/input/mice ? |
| 02:05.22 | abrotman | mentor: i'm not sure how i feel about that :) |
| 02:05.29 | ricky_clarkson | I was once in a pub pool team - we were supposed to be called Gap Where Brain Should Be.. |
| 02:05.44 | ricky_clarkson | but it ended up as Gap Where Brain Is because we couldn't even communicate about that. |
| 02:05.58 | mentor | abrotman: You shouldn't be. |
| 02:06.09 | abrotman | shouldn't be feeling ? |
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| 02:06.13 | beardy | !lobotomy everyone |
| 02:06.26 | mentor | abrotman: sure. |
| 02:06.29 | abrotman | ok .. good |
| 02:06.31 | mentor | abrotman: shouldn't be sure. |
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| 02:06.33 | abrotman | beer has done it's job! |
| 02:06.34 | bob2 | abrotman: gnaa people do all osrts of pointless crap |
| 02:06.49 | abrotman | bob2: yeah .. but i saw it was a notify .. but i didn't realize i was the only one getting it |
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| 02:06.55 | ricky_clarkson | bob2: What the bugger do they want? |
| 02:06.58 | ricky_clarkson | Oh, right.. |
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| 02:07.27 | ricky_clarkson | bob2: Seriously, are they trying to make a point or what? |
| 02:07.43 | abrotman | bob2: did kbrooks get banned from this channel ? |
| 02:07.49 | bob2 | ricky_clarkson: gnaa.us, who knows |
| 02:08.01 | ricky_clarkson | bob2: I'm keeping my IP away from there. |
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| 02:08.09 | abrotman | i don't have any logs .. but that url that the souI was from looks familiar |
| 02:08.10 | bob2 | abrotman: I think I +q'd him/her for excessive stupidity in the past |
| 02:08.21 | abrotman | bob2: but kbrooks is a registered user |
| 02:08.28 | mentor | ricky_clarkson: Yes. They're possibly not making the point htey intended though. |
| 02:08.36 | xerophyte | where do i set the TMOUT so user will be log out |
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| 02:10.15 | abrotman | what a confusing pain in the ass :) |
| 02:10.37 | xixor | Hey guys |
| 02:10.41 | abrotman | not you |
| 02:10.50 | xixor | How do I find as much info as possible from a pc card I have inserted? |
| 02:10.56 | abrotman | lspci -vvvv |
| 02:11.00 | xixor | cardctl ident is only providing a bit.. I want as much info as possible |
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| 02:11.05 | abrotman | xixor: wait .. pcmcia or pci ? |
| 02:11.10 | xixor | pcmcia |
| 02:11.13 | paster | "bob2_isgay" at 60.36.181.86 pasted "GEE EN AYE AYE > gentoo" (1 line) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/574 |
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| 02:11.29 | Kvant | xixor, hwinfo gives lots of info |
| 02:11.33 | paster | "bob2_LOVESANAL" at 60.36.181.86 pasted "GEE EN AYE AYE > gentoo" (1 line) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/575 |
| 02:11.47 | abrotman | bob2: i still love you .. even if paster doesn't :) |
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| 02:11.56 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: ^ |
| 02:11.59 | xixor | Kvant : ok, installing it now |
| 02:12.19 | xixor | this PCMCIA wireless card is really cramping my style now... |
| 02:12.30 | beardy | I don't get the point of that.. |
| 02:12.44 | abrotman | beardy: you're not supposed to .. you don't have severe brain damage |
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| 02:16.37 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 02:16.37 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
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| 02:18.45 | litage | i'm trying to run a bios update program, but it says "error reading /dev/mem!" and "ERROR: BIOS has no flash information available". what can i do? |
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| 02:19.52 | brlancer | any recommendations for how to set two different images on the left and right screens of a dual display? every tool I use just copies the image onto each display |
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| 02:20.45 | beardy | brlancer: Merge the two images together, creating an image with the width of you two displays put together? |
| 02:20.52 | beardy | your |
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| 02:21.22 | beardy | This must be some record in silence/calmness in here.. |
| 02:21.28 | abrotman | it is quiet .. |
| 02:21.33 | abrotman | storm coming in 5 :) |
| 02:21.38 | beardy | :) |
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| 02:23.16 | abrotman | !silence |
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| 02:23.34 | beardy | litage: What program are you using? I'm sure it would be easier for you to get help if we knew that. |
| 02:23.38 | Fluxxdog | Quiet? I'll fix that :P Trying to install Debian using the netinst from a CD, but each time I try, it says "OK, booting the kernel....", reboots my machine, then tries to install all over again from the beinginng. It keeps telling me it's unpacking 2 files, but nothing's happening. |
| 02:23.59 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 02:24.02 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: you've tried 2.4 and 2.6? |
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| 02:25.49 | Fluxxdog | I'm guessing the package I have is 3.0. But I tried the 2.6 installation and still does the same thing. Could it be a hardware problem? |
| 02:26.20 | litage | beardy, it's a program that intel released for updating their server mobos |
| 02:26.40 | litage | beardy, AFULNX: AMI Firmware Update Utility - Version 1.33 |
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| 02:27.04 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: Dell ? |
| 02:27.18 | poncho | goodbye |
| 02:27.22 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: so you tried linux and linux26 ? |
| 02:27.30 | beardy | litage: Do you run it the way they intended, the same kernel or bootfloppy, or such thing? Perhaps that is needed, some special kernelpatch or the like? |
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| 02:27.55 | werw | Do you know how to slow down processor in QEMU? |
| 02:28.05 | Fluxxdog | abrotman: Nope. HP a705w, Intel Celuron 2.9 Ghz and I tried all 4 options for booting. icluding the 26 and experts. |
| 02:28.26 | beardy | litage: Only some guesses though, I'm not familliar with that program.. |
| 02:28.28 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: and it's the 3.1r0a installer ? |
| 02:28.51 | Fluxxdog | I beleive so. I just d/l'd it today. |
| 02:29.06 | litage | beardy, i've read through the documentation and am running it as they suggest |
| 02:29.20 | grendal_prime | anyone using links2 ? |
| 02:29.22 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: do you still have the ISO? |
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| 02:29.31 | grendal_prime | i like the app but it seems to do a few things kinda funky |
| 02:29.35 | litage | beardy, there's no mention of patching the kernel or anything. they simply say to boot into linux, then run the prog with the appropriate args |
| 02:29.35 | bob2 | werw: run qemu inside qemu |
| 02:29.38 | xixor | yo udes |
| 02:29.39 | xixor | dudes |
| 02:30.00 | Fluxxdog | abrotman: Yeah. Burned it to 2 different CDs. Used Alcohol 120% |
| 02:30.10 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: what is the name of the ISO? |
| 02:30.28 | Fluxxdog | debian-31r0a-i386-netinst |
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| 02:30.47 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: the only thing i can suggest is to try a daily .. but that won't install stable .. it will install testing afaik |
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| 02:31.06 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: and it's kind of broken .. you'll have to manually configure your networking after the install completes |
| 02:31.30 | Fluxxdog | Oy, so the newbie gets a challenge, eh? |
| 02:31.37 | beardy | litage: But what do they mean by "linux", it's quite a broad term.. Perhaps it is distribution specific? |
| 02:31.50 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: hehe .. or you can go backwards and try a woody installer .. ick :) |
| 02:32.05 | grendal_prime | whats hyperion ? |
| 02:32.10 | litage | beardy: i believe it's distro-non-specific |
| 02:32.14 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: the ircd that this newtork uses |
| 02:32.26 | grendal_prime | o |
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| 02:32.49 | bob2 | the new name for the slightly modified ircd |
| 02:33.00 | Fluxxdog | abrotman: Eh, doubt I should. I was thinking of changing out operating systems, and everyone suggested Debian, but said don't use woody. Found out what that meant today. |
| 02:33.00 | beardy | litage: But your kernel still need to have support for touching the BIOS, are you sure it has that? |
| 02:33.23 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: yeah .. but if you can get it installed .. you can upgrade ot sarge .. but if you prefer .. you can try a daily |
| 02:33.24 | beardy | litage: I donät remember what the module is called, but there is modules for it.. |
| 02:33.29 | litage | beardy: i don't know if it has that ability |
| 02:33.53 | beardy | litage: Is it a precompiled debian kernel, or a custom compiled one? |
| 02:33.57 | Fluxxdog | abrotman: So try installing woody first, then go to sarge? |
| 02:34.09 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: you can try it .. it might not work |
| 02:34.10 | litage | thanks beardy, i'll look into that |
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| 02:34.20 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: and you *really should* be behind a firewall when you do it |
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| 02:34.32 | litage | beardy: knoppix 3.3 |
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| 02:35.12 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: are you going to stick with stable? or testing or unstable? |
| 02:35.19 | grendal_prime | anyone using links2 or elinks? |
| 02:35.25 | greg_work | Fluxxdog: try running knoppix |
| 02:35.25 | abrotman | grendal_prime: why? |
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| 02:35.42 | greg_work | Fluxxdog: and make sure there's not any weird partitions or something taking over the boot process? |
| 02:35.49 | grendal_prime | i have a web page that is doing strange things...with a submited varriable |
| 02:35.55 | grendal_prime | only in those browsers though |
| 02:36.01 | abrotman | i think he said he wanted to run debian .. not some crap derivitive |
| 02:36.17 | abrotman | grendal_prime: they're not exactly the world's best browsers :) |
| 02:36.25 | Fluxxdog | abrotman: Well, I've always enjoyed beta testing. I wouldn't have a problem with an unstable. |
| 02:36.28 | grendal_prime | ya..but this is a very simple thing |
| 02:36.30 | greg_work | abrotman: it helps testing.. can't install, see if he can BOOT |
| 02:36.42 | abrotman | greg_work: he could get an ubuntu live CD for that |
| 02:36.48 | greg_work | fair enough |
| 02:36.50 | abrotman | i don't even know if knoppix still has a live CD |
| 02:36.53 | grendal_prime | it has to do with cacheing i think |
| 02:37.00 | beardy | litage: Ok, try googling for something like "linux module bios update" or simillar. If you find the name, perhaps it is included as a loadable module for that kernel. |
| 02:37.07 | Fluxxdog | That's what gets me. It says it's booting, then it just resets the computer. |
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| 02:37.17 | grendal_prime | i thought i had all caching turned off but it seems to be still doing it to a certain degree |
| 02:37.21 | gravity | uh... isn't knoppix's entire point in life the LiveCD? |
| 02:37.25 | greg_work | Fluxxdog: try a live cd, see what happens |
| 02:37.36 | abrotman | gravity: nfc .. i don't really like liveCDs .. or KDE :) |
| 02:37.40 | silver_cpu | hi, all. i'm looking for a good wifi adapter (pc card for my laptop) which will work in linux (obviously), but more importantly has very good reception. any suggestions? |
| 02:37.43 | gravity | bah |
| 02:37.46 | abrotman | hab! |
| 02:37.53 | gravity | heh |
| 02:38.01 | grendal_prime | i have a dlink works great |
| 02:38.02 | beardy | abrotman: Isn't it only a livecd, if it doesn't still have it, then it doesn't exist anymore, or..? |
| 02:38.06 | grendal_prime | its an older one though |
| 02:38.09 | greg_work | abrotman: i think i've only booted knoppix into gui once... usually i just go into text mode so i can run some diagnostics ;p |
| 02:38.13 | silver_cpu | grendal_prime, how far will it reach? |
| 02:38.14 | Fluxxdog | Sorry, greg, I gotta agree with abrotman. I would prefer something I can put on a HD. |
| 02:38.18 | abrotman | beardy: you can install it .. that's all i know |
| 02:38.20 | gravity | Someone, iirc, was working on a debian livecd. I don't know if he's planning on making it officially part of the project though |
| 02:38.30 | gravity | It'd be nice if that happened |
| 02:38.45 | abrotman | Fluxxdog: if you want a daily .. you can try it .. but it could result in the same issue |
| 02:38.46 | greg_work | Fluxxdog: i'm not saying this as a solution. i'm suggesting you boot with knoppix to 1) see if it'll even boot, 2) look at the drive to see what the installer did |
| 02:38.47 | grendal_prime | as far as it does... i mean i have never had a problem with it not reaching as far as anyone elses |
| 02:39.01 | beardy | abrotman: Yes, but that is not it's primary function. Being a livecd is that. |
| 02:39.04 | greg_work | sorry, s/knoppix/live cd of your chosing/ |
| 02:39.19 | abrotman | beardy: i said i don't know . i don't like KDE .. i'd have no reason to use knoppix |
| 02:39.22 | deadcat | greg_work: whats the status on xorg? |
| 02:39.22 | silver_cpu | grendal_prime, but you've never tested how far it'll reach? |
| 02:39.40 | gravity | deadcat: Was that meant for me? |
| 02:39.41 | greg_work | deadcat: beats me |
| 02:39.42 | silver_cpu | i've been able to get liveable reception from my neighbor's house, two houses down. |
| 02:39.54 | deadcat | gravity: ya. (= damn his nick |
| 02:39.56 | grendal_prime | not something i generally worry about ... |
| 02:40.13 | gravity | deadcat: I just posted a massive screed about it today on -x. I'm also going to upload -6 tomorrow morning. |
| 02:40.15 | grendal_prime | go into building withh wireless, plug in card, work on web pages |
| 02:40.19 | silver_cpu | lol i'm crazy that way |
| 02:40.19 | Fluxxdog | OK, scooting off to get this party going. Later! |
| 02:40.23 | gravity | I should blog some of it. |
| 02:40.28 | abrotman | god .. that daily is a mess right now |
| 02:40.35 | deadcat | to prevent me from making another nick completion error. i say we ban/kick greg_work (= |
| 02:40.40 | grendal_prime | i mean...its not rocket science...flying the plane is more complicated |
| 02:40.48 | gravity | heh |
| 02:40.51 | beardy | abrotman: Me neither, knoppix includes windowmaker and some other wm:s as well though. And you don't have to let it start X at all. A livecd/rescuecd/floppy is good to have at times in need, be it knoppix or some other. |
| 02:40.51 | deadcat | gravity: cool. |
| 02:41.03 | systray` | i planned to scripting a package managementsystem, what i can using? bash is recommanded for that? or i have better using another language ? |
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| 02:41.23 | Xenguy | browny: grrrr |
| 02:41.26 | greg_work | i was probably called greg before gravity was called gravity ;) |
| 02:41.29 | deadcat | browny: bastard. dont do that |
| 02:41.32 | abrotman | beardy: i have an ubuntu disc somewhere at work .. that's the last i used .. i really miss the linuxcare CD .. oh well |
| 02:41.33 | gravity | True enough :-) |
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| 02:41.47 | browny | what? don't /me? I was just checking if my nick set properly |
| 02:41.50 | aeacides | for some reason when my system booted up for the first time after installing debian, I wasn't given the opportunity to install pre-rolled software configuration. Is there some way to get to this from the command line? |
| 02:42.08 | abrotman | aeacides: what would you like to install ? |
| 02:42.15 | deadcat | greg_work: its not you name greg. its that your NICK is getting in the way (= |
| 02:42.24 | aeacides | typical unix stuff to start out with |
| 02:42.30 | beardy | abrotman: I haven't tried that one. I like one called SystemRescueCD, and my customized tomsrtbt. |
| 02:42.37 | aeacides | like tcsh or lynx |
| 02:42.39 | greg_work | deadcat: i'm sometimes "groogs" but that wouldn't really help the situation now would it ;p |
| 02:42.45 | deadcat | browny: no you were. you were trying to send us trojan. |
| 02:42.51 | abrotman | aeacides: yes .. but like what .. for really generic stuff .. you can try tasksel .. otherwise .. apt-get install <whateveryouwant> |
| 02:42.55 | deadcat | greg_work: hahah |
| 02:42.57 | aeacides | apt-get install lynx fails |
| 02:43.09 | greg_work | aeacides: saying what? |
| 02:43.16 | greg_work | do you guys use tasksel ? |
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| 02:43.18 | abrotman | aeacides: is your network working correctly? |
| 02:43.25 | deadcat | greg_work: no |
| 02:43.34 | aeacides | yea, I can ping my gateway just fine |
| 02:43.42 | abrotman | aeacides: apt-setup .. pick an http source |
| 02:43.51 | greg_work | aeacides: you'd be able to do that if your routing wasn't setup properly |
| 02:43.52 | browny | anyone happen to know of aacraid is supported on a full install CD? I just tried the netinst CD and I can't install to my SATA raid... |
| 02:43.56 | abrotman | aeacides: then apt-get install lynx or whatever |
| 02:44.00 | greg_work | even if * |
| 02:44.17 | aeacides | ok, i hope that works |
| 02:44.18 | abrotman | greg_work: i figure if he can ping .. he's done something right :) |
| 02:44.47 | beardy | greg_work: No, not after I used it the first time I installed debian, and installed about every task there was :) After that lesson I only look at the tasks (if even that) and install the packages I really want instead. |
| 02:45.03 | greg_work | abrotman: one of my friends was annoyed he couldn't get his network to work, said he spent lots of time on it.. i looked at it, "route add default gw .." and bang, it works. |
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| 02:45.12 | greg_work | i think it's one of those things that gets overlooked |
| 02:45.36 | aeacides | i have dhcp setup |
| 02:45.36 | abrotman | greg_work: we'll see .. he should know in about two seconds :) |
| 02:45.45 | aeacides | yea it worked now :) |
| 02:45.55 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:45.55 | aeacides | apt-setup picked what it needed apparently |
| 02:45.57 | greg_work | i don't think i've ever used taskesl. the first time i installed, i looked at it. but that was it |
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| 02:46.25 | deadcat | gravity: lets hope -6 fixed my ibook+ati problem. (= |
| 02:46.34 | greg_work | of course, i don't feel bad having less than 7 web browers installed.. |
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| 02:46.55 | spylinux_br | helo guys |
| 02:47.06 | temp4234 | How do I search for a package that I could install? |
| 02:47.09 | spylinux_br | what's happened with lmi |
| 02:47.10 | spylinux_br | ?? |
| 02:47.17 | abrotman | temp4234: /msg dpkg search |
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| 02:47.19 | deadcat | temp4234: apt-cache search |
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| 02:47.25 | greg_work | temp4234: apt-cache search, aptitude |
| 02:47.28 | temp4234 | thank you :) |
| 02:47.28 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 02:47.29 | dpkg | from memory, refcard is http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ |
| 02:47.30 | spylinux_br | i hear this in Brazil, about problem |
| 02:47.45 | abrotman | !br |
| 02:47.45 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:47.46 | deadcat | abrotman: skippy is slow. )= wonder how osx's expose do it... |
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| 02:48.02 | greg_work | well i'm irritated, i have no idea why zoneminder decied to stop working |
| 02:48.06 | abrotman | deadcat: skippy is skippy .. you could .. fix it :) |
| 02:48.18 | EasterSunshine | what problems will i run into by having absurdly big directories in ext3? like for example if there are 100,000 files (recursively) under a dir? |
| 02:48.29 | deadcat | abrotman: haha. no. i wont fix his mess (= |
| 02:48.54 | EasterSunshine | i need to put a LOT of pictures on an smb/http/ftp server |
| 02:49.01 | gravity | deadcat: It won't. There's been very few changes. |
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| 02:49.17 | greg_work | is this a strange output for free? http://pastebin.ca/21189 why is it using swap when there's so much physical available? |
| 02:49.23 | gravity | deadcat: I'm polishing up 6.9rc0 packages though. They're getting much closer to being ready. Those are the ones to watch for. |
| 02:49.44 | deadcat | gravity: ya. i think hes not gonna mess with it anymore. seems like a very sloppy hack to me |
| 02:49.51 | abrotman | deadcat: did you look int he bts? |
| 02:49.54 | gravity | deadcat: Huh? |
| 02:49.56 | deadcat | gravity: i love you (= |
| 02:50.06 | gravity | Uh... thanks :-) |
| 02:50.08 | deadcat | abrotman: that was for you |
| 02:50.12 | gravity | Ah, ok |
| 02:50.21 | lilldude | liable |
| 02:50.25 | Nwallins | i've been trying several different ntp servers in /etc/default/ntpdate and ntpdate always comes back with 'no servers can be used' |
| 02:50.28 | deadcat | gravity: i think we should kick/ban you because you are messing up my tab completion (= |
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| 02:50.34 | TraceGreen | Hello, there is something wrong with my bootsplash, when kernel start my init process, splash change from silent to verbose. what's wrong? |
| 02:50.35 | abrotman | deadcat: why? |
| 02:51.04 | bob2 | TraceGreen: er, presumably you're not seeing the same problem on Ubuntu and Debian |
| 02:51.07 | bob2 | pick one channel |
| 02:51.09 | deadcat | abrotman: it has to rise every freakin window then take freakin snapshot then resize them. )= |
| 02:51.29 | deadcat | bob2: he plays both side (=.. |
| 02:51.53 | abrotman | deadcat: i didn't say it was efficient .. i just knew it existed :) |
| 02:51.57 | TraceGreen | bob2, yes, deadcat is right. i ask this question on #debian, #ubuntu and #gentoo |
| 02:52.06 | deadcat | abrotman: (= |
| 02:52.14 | bob2 | lordy me |
| 02:52.28 | bob2 | then just /part #debian and #ubuntu, only gentoo actually includes bootsplash |
| 02:52.46 | abrotman | TraceGreen: what's wrong with #yggdrasil? |
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| 02:52.50 | deadcat | TraceGreen: and no one answering? because they know you in 3 channels and figure the other chan is gonna answer it for you |
| 02:53.08 | gravity | Yeah, get your #fedora on while you're at it |
| 02:53.10 | Musg | hi all |
| 02:53.20 | TraceGreen | deadcat, oh~~, but actually, no one answer me. :-( |
| 02:53.30 | deadcat | TraceGreen: ya. because i told them not to |
| 02:53.57 | Musg | how to delete this module "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter" ? |
| 02:54.01 | TraceGreen | deadcat, anyway, sorry for asking in several channels about the same question |
| 02:54.15 | rbd | is there a simple way of having a package depend on a 2.6 kernel-image being installed? (i.e. what should I put for that in the control file?) |
| 02:54.16 | Musg | because I have nvidia video board |
| 02:54.22 | deadcat | TraceGreen: its ok.. but next time i might have to kline you |
| 02:54.29 | TraceGreen | deadcat, ok, ok |
| 02:54.31 | bob2 | Musg: that's not a module, it's a PCI device |
| 02:54.53 | Musg | it is video on board ... my motherboard |
| 02:54.54 | bob2 | Musg: do you mean "How do I configure X to use my AGP video card, instead of the on-boared video?"? |
| 02:54.57 | bob2 | right |
| 02:55.05 | bob2 | disabling it in the BIOS is the simplest way |
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| 02:55.07 | bob2 | rbd: no |
| 02:55.11 | Musg | I have nvidia PCI |
| 02:55.15 | Coag | what command is best for buring and iso to a cd? |
| 02:55.16 | Musg | TNT2 |
| 02:55.23 | TraceGreen | Musg, you may try : lspci -n | grep 000:01:00.0, and you will get some numbers |
| 02:55.24 | Musg | dont need video on board |
| 02:55.25 | abrotman | Coag: CLI or GUI? |
| 02:55.33 | Coag | CLI |
| 02:55.34 | Musg | let me try |
| 02:55.39 | abrotman | cdrecord is the only i know of |
| 02:55.47 | Coag | alright ill look into that |
| 02:55.54 | Coag | im still having IRQ issues with my mouse |
| 02:55.56 | abrotman | google "cdrecord burn ISO" |
| 02:55.57 | Coag | :/ |
| 02:56.07 | Coag | i changed it in BIOS |
| 02:56.08 | TraceGreen | Musg, show the number you grep. :-) |
| 02:56.14 | Coag | so now that IRQ disables itself |
| 02:56.38 | Musg | TraceGreen, 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1039:6325 |
| 02:56.38 | Musg | what is this meaning these numbers ? |
| 02:56.38 | Coag | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.39 | Musg | this = the |
| 02:56.51 | bob2 | they're PCI IDs |
| 02:56.53 | TraceGreen | deadcat, Do you know how should i fix bootsplash problem? or, should i just ask questions in gentoo channel? |
| 02:57.06 | bob2 | TraceGreen: what OS are you seeing this problem on? |
| 02:57.13 | deadcat | TraceGreen: why not just install splashy? |
| 02:57.20 | Musg | can I unable that video board ? |
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| 02:57.29 | Coag | Musg, in bios |
| 02:57.35 | Musg | I made |
| 02:57.44 | bob2 | that's BIOS-specific, read your manual |
| 02:57.49 | Musg | but lspci ... continue showing |
| 02:58.04 | TraceGreen | Musg, ok , less /lib/modules/"your kernel"/modules.picmap | grep 0x00001039 0x00006325 |
| 02:58.18 | deadcat | can you less | grep ? |
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| 02:58.23 | bob2 | Musg: I'd be ignoring spci output here |
| 02:59.10 | TraceGreen | Musg, wish you can find certain module |
| 02:59.11 | deadcat | oh you can (= |
| 02:59.11 | Musg | ok |
| 02:59.11 | bob2 | deadcat: usually better to put them the other way round |
| 02:59.11 | TraceGreen | deadcat, sorry, i type wrong, i mean, 0x00001039 0x00006325 map certain module |
| 02:59.15 | deadcat | bob2: usually either cat or just grep, never less | grep |
| 02:59.47 | TraceGreen | Musg, do you want to find out what module 0000:01:00.0 map to ? right? |
| 03:00.00 | TraceGreen | deadcat, because i wan to add bootsplash to knoppix liveCD |
| 03:00.20 | bob2 | holy fuck dude |
| 03:00.23 | gravity | jesus |
| 03:00.32 | bob2 | TraceGreen: #knoppix then, or their dev list |
| 03:00.46 | gravity | "Hi! I love to waste my time!" |
| 03:01.20 | deadcat | hahah |
| 03:01.29 | abrotman | or anywhere but here :) |
| 03:01.43 | Musg | well |
| 03:01.45 | bob2 | a) ubuntu and debian don't use bootsplash |
| 03:01.57 | bob2 | b) modifying the knoppix init system is highly knoppix-specific |
| 03:01.59 | TraceGreen | bob2, ok, thanks!! |
| 03:01.59 | Musg | when I am starting x .. failed with nvidia driver |
| 03:01.59 | bob2 | c) wtf |
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| 03:02.21 | gravity | Musg: Binary driver or the one that comes in the xserver-xorg package? |
| 03:02.24 | gravity | (nv or nvidia?) |
| 03:02.33 | Musg | nvidia |
| 03:02.37 | gravity | meh |
| 03:02.37 | Musg | binary driver |
| 03:02.42 | MaxPower | hi, could someone please tell me what a good debian iso is that comes with windows x? |
| 03:03.01 | gravity | I think X is on the first CD... |
| 03:03.10 | gravity | MaxPower: Why don't you just do the netinstall? |
| 03:03.11 | Coag | im reading cdrecord -help |
| 03:03.14 | Musg | use that guidelines |
| 03:03.15 | Musg | http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 03:03.20 | Coag | but i cannot find how to burn an iso to a cd in there |
| 03:03.36 | MaxPower | gravity, i got the netinstall but im not sure if it has winx on it.. |
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| 03:03.55 | gravity | MaxPower: It doesn't, but it will install it from the internet, along with anything else you need, when you actually install Debian |
| 03:04.07 | abrotman | MaxPower: apt-setup .. pick an http source |
| 03:04.13 | TraceGreen | Coag, cdrecoder -v -tao -eject speed=24 dev=/dev/hdc driveropts=burnfree youriso.iso |
| 03:04.15 | abrotman | MaxPower: and which GUI do you prefer? |
| 03:04.23 | gravity | tasksel is your friend I think |
| 03:04.25 | MaxPower | Id prefer kde |
| 03:04.37 | abrotman | MaxPower: apt-get install kde kdm x-window-system |
| 03:04.47 | MaxPower | thanks |
| 03:04.48 | roberto_ | Anyone experiencing problems with the webmin-apache module in Sarge? |
| 03:05.06 | gravity | hahahaha... webmin |
| 03:05.20 | MaxPower | will the netinstall cd overwrite mandrake? cos i want to freshly install debian? |
| 03:05.27 | gravity | MaxPower: It can |
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| 03:06.13 | Coag | TraceGreen, thanks alot |
| 03:06.36 | roberto_ | I keep getting "Error - File not found" |
| 03:06.44 | roberto_ | The other modules work, though. |
| 03:06.47 | MaxPower | gravity, is it an option u click in the install? (like windows -format hdd before installing?) |
| 03:07.06 | gravity | MaxPower: You should read the installation manual. It's on www.debian.org. |
| 03:07.16 | gravity | MaxPower: It'll answer such questions better than I can |
| 03:07.28 | TraceGreen | Coag, you are welcome, i use this command, but acutally, i don't remember every parameter mean.... |
| 03:07.34 | Coag | heh |
| 03:07.35 | MaxPower | gravity & abrotman , thanks |
| 03:07.37 | Coag | i read about tao |
| 03:07.48 | Coag | and speed and dev make sense |
| 03:07.55 | Coag | -v is verbose |
| 03:08.03 | Coag | so i just dont understand the burnfree |
| 03:08.31 | TraceGreen | Coag, man it, wish it can help you. |
| 03:08.43 | Coag | k |
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| 03:10.39 | MaxPower | btw if u download the 1st debian dvd iso, do you still need the 2nd one to complete install? |
| 03:10.56 | abrotman | !u |
| 03:10.56 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:10.59 | gravity | MaxPower: No |
| 03:11.02 | abrotman | MaxPower: if you have broadband .. no |
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| 03:11.50 | flipmcf | !qmail |
| 03:11.50 | dpkg | rumour has it, qmail is a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or ... |
| 03:12.03 | flipmcf | sry. |
| 03:12.12 | MaxPower | abrotman, thanks |
| 03:12.27 | MaxPower | gravity: thanks |
| 03:13.08 | Debird | dpkg: whats the best way to go? (maybe I missed it) |
| 03:13.55 | aeacides | which package contains 'less'? |
| 03:14.07 | Nwallins | less IIRC |
| 03:14.22 | Debird | reason i ask is i was considering qmail |
| 03:15.08 | aeacides | i need to remember to type 'install' next time :( |
| 03:17.01 | abrotman | !tell aeacides about search |
| 03:17.12 | browny | Debird: for dpkg's last statement about reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, I'd say the "or..." would be "try it out yourself to see what a PITA it is the first time you try to do anything with it" |
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| 03:20.45 | MaxPower | qmail is crap |
| 03:21.00 | Debird | browny: thanks. i tried it a couple of years ago and could not do squat with it after all the arduous install work. and I thought it was just me. thanks. really. :) |
| 03:21.08 | flipmcf | I read some of the replies to that thread.... it's not crap. |
| 03:21.15 | litage | if linux is installed, what should i do if the machine won't boot from the HD? |
| 03:21.16 | flipmcf | many good geeks stand behind it. |
| 03:21.39 | lilldude | boot from cd |
| 03:22.04 | MaxPower | flipmcf yeah, including the geeks i used to work with.. they used to back it up bigtime, but i constantly had complaints about mail not being recieved etc.. |
| 03:22.05 | litage | lilldude: then do what? |
| 03:22.10 | MaxPower | and the logs showed nothing |
| 03:22.28 | flipmcf | MaxPower, sounds like my postfix experiences... lol. |
| 03:22.44 | MaxPower | hehe |
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| 03:23.01 | lilldude | once you boot from cd it should turn on |
| 03:23.11 | flipmcf | I have found that 'mail not being recieved' is 90% of the time a client problem. |
| 03:23.12 | lilldude | if i dont boot from cd big troubles |
| 03:23.17 | flipmcf | sender or reciever. |
| 03:23.21 | browny | qmail works great. it's just a pain to use |
| 03:23.29 | flipmcf | not having fun installing it. |
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| 03:23.37 | flipmcf | dpkg-buildpackage gave me an error |
| 03:23.43 | litage | lilldude: i can boot from a live cd, but what do then do to get linux that's currently installed on the hd to boot? |
| 03:23.47 | MaxPower | yeah, until it happens to you |
| 03:23.57 | MaxPower | then its the other 10% of the time |
| 03:23.57 | MaxPower | hehe |
| 03:24.22 | flipmcf | the other 10% of the time is "oh, that must have been my config... my bad... one moment." |
| 03:24.26 | lilldude | the installed os should have cd |
| 03:24.30 | flipmcf | lol |
| 03:24.38 | lilldude | not one from another distro use that to boot from |
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| 03:25.03 | lilldude | cant boot from another distro cd |
| 03:25.13 | flipmcf | now, ClamAV would bring down my server. easy. |
| 03:25.28 | MaxPower | hehe, these guys wouldnt say that.. typ response was " oh it must of been one of the programmers stuffing around with the live server" |
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| 03:28.31 | [Cadet] | You could boot with any linux cd, it might be more work, but you could boot, mount all filesystems, then chroot and fix the bootloader problems |
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| 03:31.55 | MaxPower | hmm one question, can you install debian dvd iso from a remotely mounted dvd drive? or do i need to do a dvd / cd drive swap again? |
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| 03:34.40 | Zweideutig | I will need to change mirrors. |
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| 03:38.47 | lithium | how can i configure my debian box to not start in X? |
| 03:39.13 | lithium | without deleting files, or uninstalling X. Rather by configuration |
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| 03:39.17 | gravity | !tell lithium about nodm |
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| 03:39.48 | TraceGreen | lithium, you may modify your start level. |
| 03:40.02 | aeronadix | !nodm |
| 03:40.03 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 03:40.04 | lithium | gravity: I dont want to remove at all... I just want to start my damn server up in console. |
| 03:40.28 | TraceGreen | lithium, you can find some reference about /etc/inittab, and check linux booting level. |
| 03:41.07 | gravity | lithium: Read the factoid to the end |
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| 03:41.57 | lithium | gravity: for some reason my keyboard doesnt work... thats why im so frustrated atm. |
| 03:42.17 | lithium | gravity: So i cant ctrl-alt f1, or do anything but telnet in |
| 03:42.23 | litage | i've booted with a live cd, and the machine has 2 sata and 1 ide drive; i believe the 2 satas are raid0'd, but i'm not sure. how can i determine if the drives are/were raid'd? |
| 03:43.02 | flipmcf | once I have my machine configured with the packages I want... can I somehow save this information -- like the output of dpkg-query -l --and use it for future installs? |
| 03:43.25 | flipmcf | to avoid lengthy stays with dselect? |
| 03:43.31 | nvz | flipmcf: dpkg --get-selections > selections |
| 03:43.58 | flipmcf | and to use 'selections' on machine #2? |
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| 03:44.14 | nvz | dpkg --set-selections < selections |
| 03:44.17 | nvz | I guess |
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| 03:50.07 | nvz | TraceGreen: what the hell does runlevels have to do with display managers? |
| 03:50.32 | nvz | TraceGreen: besides, well nothing. |
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| 03:51.05 | asb002 | nvz: it has to do with which display manager is started up |
| 03:51.15 | kamaraju | How do I log in into http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/FrontPage? I already have a username and password. |
| 03:51.16 | asb002 | nvz: if any |
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| 03:51.20 | gravity | Not in Debian |
| 03:51.21 | nvz | asb002: um mp |
| 03:51.23 | nvz | no |
| 03:51.25 | TraceGreen | nvz, Do you just want to not to start X, right? |
| 03:51.44 | gravity | Debian doesn't make runlevel 5 for X and 3 for non-X. |
| 03:51.57 | nvz | yes because that would be stupid |
| 03:51.58 | gravity | So just switching your runlevel won't do the job unless you configure it yourself |
| 03:52.07 | asb002 | gravity: does it not determine if any dm is started? |
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| 03:52.15 | gravity | asb002: Not in Debian, unless you configure it. |
| 03:52.20 | nvz | it determines nothing |
| 03:52.25 | gravity | asb002: Debian leaves the runlevels up to the discretion of the admin. |
| 03:52.30 | asb002 | gravity: so it does, when configured |
| 03:52.38 | gravity | asb002: Yes, but not by default. |
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| 03:52.55 | asb002 | gravity: ah |
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| 03:53.18 | gravity | It's just an init system. Any init system can be configured to run something or not. |
| 03:53.32 | asb002 | gravity: indeed |
| 03:53.48 | nvz | Debian doesnt do things just because deadrat and the gay french giggalo mandriva does |
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| 03:54.48 | kamaraju | no one uses the above wiki to edit? |
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| 03:56.02 | aaronlin | What is the smallest desktop environment available for Debian? |
| 03:56.11 | Gumby | is there a dpkg option that will show me pacakges installed? ie: dpkg -l |grep kde shows all packages wutih kde in it, but I am wanting to know only which packages are installed |
| 03:56.24 | gravity | aaronlin: Probably xfce |
| 03:56.29 | aaronlin | I need something to save memory (I'm constnatly running into swap). |
| 03:56.37 | aaronlin | gravity: Is there anything smaller than xfce? |
| 03:56.40 | gravity | aaronlin: You may also want to try just a plain window manager |
| 03:56.42 | aaronlin | Can I run xfree86 by itself? |
| 03:56.55 | Gumby | aaronlin: try fluxbox, twm, blackbox |
| 03:56.56 | gravity | Yeah... I guess. You may as well at least run pwm or something though. |
| 03:57.25 | aaronlin | Gumby: Which one of the three do you like best? Also, can I use apt-get to install them? |
| 03:57.31 | Gumby | fluxbox, yes |
| 03:58.31 | aaronlin | how do I start fluxbox? |
| 03:58.35 | aaronlin | I installed it. |
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| 03:58.56 | lakcaj | john@limbo:~$ COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l | sed "s|^Desi.*||g" | sed "s:^|.*::g" | sed "s|^+.*||g" \ |
| 03:58.56 | lakcaj | > | sed "s|ii ||g" | sed "s| .*||g" | tr '\n' " " > packages |
| 03:59.03 | aaronlin | I typed in fluxbox, but it says I need to start the x server first |
| 03:59.07 | lakcaj | There, there is a list of all the packages |
| 03:59.27 | gravity | aaronlin: Add "fluxbox" to ~/.xsession |
| 03:59.32 | lakcaj | there is probably a way easier way, but that only took my like 5 mins, so who cares :) |
| 03:59.38 | nvz | lakcaj: heh you crazy |
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| 04:00.33 | aaronlin | gravity: I have .xsession-errors, but no .xsession in the home folder |
| 04:00.41 | Gumby | aaronlin: add exec fluxbox to ~/.xinitrc |
| 04:00.41 | gravity | aaronlin: Make it |
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| 04:00.50 | Gumby | uncommented (make sure its the only one) then startx |
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| 04:01.25 | aaronlin | Gumby and gravity: are you doing contradictory things? |
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| 04:01.33 | gravity | uh... no |
| 04:01.35 | aaronlin | Can I do this without creating config files? |
| 04:01.42 | gravity | Dude |
| 04:01.44 | gravity | Just make it |
| 04:01.50 | gravity | Save yourself the trouble. It's a one-line text file |
| 04:02.23 | aaronlin | ok |
| 04:02.26 | aaronlin | created |
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| 04:02.52 | sDES | need some help whith xorg and glx ( i have nvidia card ) |
| 04:02.58 | sDES | anyone? |
| 04:02.59 | aaronlin | gravity: it launched my previous desktop environment though, not fluxbox |
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| 04:03.53 | sDES | Problem is when i load glx on my xoorg.conf server does not start,error: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX |
| 04:04.12 | kamaraju | How do I log in into http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/FrontPage ? |
| 04:04.35 | nvz | lakcaj: that could only be all installed packages and its easier to dpkg --get-selections | grep install | cut -f 1 | tr "\n" " |
| 04:04.49 | nvz | " |
| 04:04.51 | nvz | heh |
| 04:04.55 | nvz | left one out |
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| 04:05.34 | Gumby | aaronlin: nano -w ~/.xinitrc |
| 04:05.42 | nvz | I think someone was just trying to show off sed-fu in a way it should never be used |
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| 04:05.54 | Gumby | #!/bin/sh |
| 04:05.55 | Gumby | exec fluxbox |
| 04:06.00 | Gumby | exit nano |
| 04:06.03 | aaronlin | Gumby: Ok. |
| 04:06.03 | Gumby | startx |
| 04:06.05 | MaxPower | hi guys |
| 04:06.05 | Gumby | done |
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| 04:06.21 | nvz | MaxPower: what about the girls? |
| 04:06.23 | Gumby | brb |
| 04:06.24 | MaxPower | is the debian i386 dvd iso bootable? |
| 04:06.31 | MaxPower | oh sorry.. hehe.. hi girls |
| 04:07.03 | Daveman | haha |
| 04:07.16 | lakcaj | nvz, I thought that was what he was after... oh, I haven't used sed in a while, so it was a good refresher. I've also recognized that my xargs skills suck sh*t :) |
| 04:07.26 | lakcaj | s/oh/oh well |
| 04:07.30 | aaronlin | Gumby: Thanks! |
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| 04:07.32 | aaronlin | it worked |
| 04:07.41 | MaxPower | anyone? |
| 04:07.43 | MaxPower | is the debian i386 dvd iso bootable? |
| 04:07.48 | aaronlin | gravity: thanks also |
| 04:08.02 | lakcaj | 'night all |
| 04:08.38 | mwilson | MaxPower: It wouldn't be much good if it weren't, would it? |
| 04:09.01 | MaxPower | u would think not.. but for some weird reason its not booting |
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| 04:09.15 | mwilson | !u |
| 04:09.15 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 04:09.33 | Daveman | ack my control file is a pain :/ |
| 04:09.46 | litage | if 2 drives are raid'd and you boot from a live cd, will you be able to see both drives, or just 1? |
| 04:09.53 | nvz | luckily its a control file.. you can control the pain |
| 04:10.03 | Gumby | did that work ? (is that person still here?) |
| 04:10.03 | Daveman | nvz :P |
| 04:10.42 | MaxPower | [02:07pm] [aaronlin] Gumby: Thanks! |
| 04:10.42 | MaxPower | [02:07pm] «« part Cyberfox [n=Cyberfox@c911ac8f.bhz.virtua.com.br] ("Leaving") |
| 04:10.42 | MaxPower | [02:07pm] [aaronlin] it worked |
| 04:10.46 | mwilson | litage: "raided" how? |
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| 04:11.24 | MaxPower | how the f*** is mandrake still loading when ive disabled the ide-0 to be bootable in the bios |
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| 04:12.00 | falkon | MaxPower: mandrake ghost. It's going to haunt you forever for being stupid enough to use mandrake |
| 04:12.01 | arose | is there a way to resume a netinstall? |
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| 04:12.06 | nvz | I think Mandrake is Mandriva's bitch |
| 04:12.12 | litage | mwilson: raid 0 or 1 |
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| 04:12.18 | baler | what contains aclocal? |
| 04:12.30 | nvz | !find aclocal |
| 04:12.32 | MaxPower | falkon, yeah well when you dont know you dont know.. |
| 04:12.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'aclocal' (7 of 23): (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.6) in devel/automake1.6 ;; (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.8) in devel/automake1.8 ;; (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.9) in devel/automake1.9 ;; (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.7) in devel/automake1.7 ;; (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.4) in devel/automake1.4 ;; (/usr/share/vdkb2/res/aclocal.m4) in devel/vdkbuilder2 ;; (/usr/share/libtool/libltdl/aclocal.m4) in devel/libtool. |
| 04:12.53 | MaxPower | im sure most of us were stupid enough to use windows when we first started as well |
| 04:13.00 | mwilson | litage: <sigh> I guess I have to be more explicit. "Raided" via what technology? |
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| 04:13.47 | litage | mwilson: hardware raid i think. is that what you were looking for? |
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| 04:14.34 | mwilson | litage: If you don't even know how the drives are raided together, how do you expect anyone to answer your question? |
| 04:14.38 | sn00p_ | I just got done installing debian netinstall minimal install and for some reason I cant login to root with the password I chose is there anyway to change the password off the cd? |
| 04:15.01 | falkon | MaxPower: there's a difference, windows sometimes works |
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| 04:15.23 | binskipy2k5 | hmm |
| 04:15.24 | MaxPower | hehe true |
| 04:15.32 | litage | mwilson: how can i determine how the drives are raided? i received the machine today with no notes or docs as to its setup |
| 04:15.43 | arose | how do I resume a netinstall? I had to abort at the source selection because the network card wasn't autodetected |
| 04:15.44 | mwilson | litage: <shrug> You look? |
| 04:16.13 | MaxPower | hmm would anyone know how to get past this dilema? |
| 04:16.14 | litage | mwilson: i looked in the case. the 2 raided sata drives are hooked to the mobo, and the 1 parallel ata drive is hooked to the mobo's ide channel |
| 04:16.19 | sn00p_ | I just got done installing debian netinstall minimal install and for some reason I cant login to root with the password I chose is there anyway to change the password off the cd? |
| 04:16.24 | MaxPower | perhaps a fdisk of the /mbr |
| 04:16.33 | falkon | MaxPower: remove your hard drive. IF the computer continues to load mandrake, throw holy water on it then burn it |
| 04:16.34 | MaxPower | but i dont know how to do that in linux |
| 04:16.43 | sn00p_ | anybody help me please? |
| 04:16.50 | MaxPower | lol |
| 04:16.51 | mwilson | litage: Then it has craptastic pseudo-hardware software RAID. Ignore it. |
| 04:17.05 | falkon | MaxPower: I'll tell you how not to do it, diskdruid |
| 04:17.11 | mwilson | litage: Well, it does unless it's already running an intelligent OS. |
| 04:17.17 | falkon | mandrake messed my laptop up proper |
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| 04:17.22 | litage | mwilson: ah. so hardware raid is always and only via a dedicated pci raid controller? |
| 04:17.31 | MaxPower | hmm so no diskdruid |
| 04:17.32 | mwilson | litage: Did I say taht? |
| 04:17.33 | MaxPower | ok.. |
| 04:17.44 | MaxPower | maybe a format? |
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| 04:17.53 | sn00p_ | know one knows how to change the root password when you cant login as root? |
| 04:17.56 | litage | mwilson: no, but that's what i understood from your software raid statement |
| 04:18.06 | falkon | MaxPower: I dunno what the problem is, I was just making jokes. What are you trying to do? |
| 04:18.10 | cartel_ | guys i just ran into that annoying testing bug in sources.list |
| 04:18.17 | cartel_ | i upgraded a bunch of packages to sid |
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| 04:18.25 | mwilson | litage: You *do* realize that you could just go look up the specifications of the motherboard. |
| 04:18.26 | cartel_ | how can i downgrade back to sarge easily |
| 04:18.33 | stew | sn00p_: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
| 04:18.33 | MaxPower | Im trying to install debian from the dvd i386 binary 1 |
| 04:18.37 | mwilson | cartel_: "annoying testing bug"? |
| 04:18.40 | MaxPower | but its not laoding |
| 04:18.44 | stew | cartel_: reinstall |
| 04:18.54 | litage | mwilson: i'm looking through the mobo manual and asking around in irc. i have no experience with raid, so that's why i'm asking for help |
| 04:19.05 | MaxPower | after i changed the boot sequence for cdrom first etc..? |
| 04:19.07 | cartel_ | mwilson: the one that sets "testing" instead of "stable" in sources.list |
| 04:19.14 | falkon | MaxPower: weird |
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| 04:19.18 | rene1 | hello, i installed sarge in my pc, when i did i had no net access and thus apt-get only searchs in my CDroms for deb packages, can someone point me to instructions about how to set it up to no longer ask for cds but download debs from the net? |
| 04:19.19 | MaxPower | yeah |
| 04:19.23 | MaxPower | thats what im thinking |
| 04:19.24 | mwilson | litage: No offense, but if you actually READ the manual, you will learn what you need to know. |
| 04:19.25 | stew | rene1: apt-setup |
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| 04:19.44 | falkon | MaxPower: Are you sure your bios supports booting from the drive? |
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| 04:19.57 | MaxPower | yeah, dead certain |
| 04:19.57 | mwilson | cartel_: You mean the one that was corrected almost immediately? You'd have to be trying awfully hard to get an install image with that problem in it. |
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| 04:20.08 | MaxPower | thats how i installed shitty mandrak in the firstplace |
| 04:20.18 | cartel_ | mwilson: yeah, i installed off an old netinst not knowing it was that version |
| 04:20.27 | mfrisch | is there ethereal for 'Doz? |
| 04:20.33 | mwilson | cartel_: What does that have to do with your installing of unstable packages? |
| 04:20.36 | cartel_ | there is a way to do it |
| 04:20.41 | stew | cartel_: to downgrade? |
| 04:20.47 | mwilson | cartel_: No, there is not. |
| 04:20.47 | arose | so is it possible? |
| 04:20.49 | cartel_ | mwilson: i didnt check sources.list before apt-get upgrade |
| 04:21.00 | cartel_ | mwilson: ok ill go and find it and come back and tell you how ;) |
| 04:21.03 | mwilson | cartel_: So? Again, what does that have to do with unstable? |
| 04:21.07 | falkon | MaxPower: definately sounds like more of a bios problem. Okay, worse comes to worse, I don't know what linux utility to get, but you can make a win boot disk with fdisk on it, then just wipe out the whole thing |
| 04:21.20 | stew | cartel_: there is no reliable way to downgrade |
| 04:21.24 | falkon | MaxPower: OR go find what's called a low level format utility for your hard drive |
| 04:21.35 | MaxPower | yeah good choice, |
| 04:21.45 | mwilson | stew: But there HAS to be. After all, he SAYS so! That must magically make one exist! |
| 04:21.49 | mfrisch | MaxPower use /dev/random or wipe.. |
| 04:22.11 | stew | mwilson: if only life were that simple |
| 04:22.27 | samuel | a little off topic, but funny, dont know if you guys have seen this before: http://funroll-loops.org/ |
| 04:22.31 | samuel | gentoo is rice |
| 04:22.32 | MaxPower | hmm low level format will wipe the disk completely.. ive got a windows partition on there which is my backup.. ill try wipe |
| 04:22.42 | MaxPower | cheers mfrisch |
| 04:22.45 | Guerin | samuel: you're about 12 months behind the times |
| 04:22.51 | jetscreamer | lowlevelformat++ |
| 04:22.51 | MaxPower | & falkon |
| 04:22.51 | mwilson | Or more. |
| 04:22.52 | arose | *sigh* |
| 04:22.53 | Guerin | samuel: and thanks for not trolling |
| 04:23.14 | mfrisch | MaxPower man wipe BEFORE |
| 04:23.30 | litage | mwilson: the mobo (intel se7320sp2) manual only mentions that it supports raid0 and 1 for dual channel sata drives. it doesn't say anything else about raid |
| 04:23.45 | samuel | Guerin, sorry... didnt know its been seen before |
| 04:24.03 | mwilson | samuel: Of course you did. |
| 04:24.19 | Guerin | samuel: every website on the whole intarweb has been seen before |
| 04:24.41 | MaxPower | cool thanks |
| 04:24.43 | samuel | when you put it that way.... |
| 04:25.06 | mfrisch | is there ethereal for 'Doz? |
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| 04:25.45 | cartel_ | mwilson: Pin: release a=stable |
| 04:25.50 | cartel_ | ;) |
| 04:25.58 | MaxPower | hmm no manual entry for wipe |
| 04:26.12 | Guerin | cartel_: that won't downgrade things, and it certainly won't downgrade them reliably |
| 04:26.36 | mfrisch | sure there is |
| 04:26.43 | cartel_ | Guerin: it just did |
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| 04:27.01 | Guerin | cartel_: you were lucky, then |
| 04:27.40 | Guerin | cartel_: ordinarily you'd need to pin stable above 990, or pin everything else below 500; and even then, it's liable to break things. |
| 04:28.02 | jetscreamer | ah that was it |
| 04:28.26 | mfrisch | MaxPower basically if its a partition you can do wipe -kqD /dev/hda(*) for a quick pass |
| 04:28.38 | cartel_ | Guerin: pin 1001 |
| 04:28.39 | litage | mwilson: would the raidtab file be of any help to figuring out how the drives are raided?: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FNOcGF33.html |
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| 04:29.03 | cartel_ | Guerin: i had to manually install the old dpkg but otherwise it worked fine. it's a brand new install, so there wasnt much to break |
| 04:29.18 | falkon | Hey, anyone here using XFCE4? |
| 04:29.19 | Cim | Hi everyone, I was just on the website and couldn't find much information on who Debian would be good for |
| 04:29.25 | Guerin | !anyone use xfce4 |
| 04:29.26 | dpkg | No, no one uses xfce4, not even the people who use it. |
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| 04:29.37 | Guerin | Cim: everyone |
| 04:29.38 | Cim | Could anyone tell me if Debian would be for a relative newb. |
| 04:29.41 | falkon | Guerin: thanks, smartass |
| 04:29.44 | Cim | hrm |
| 04:29.49 | Guerin | Cim: if you can read, you can run debian gnu/linux |
| 04:29.52 | mfrisch | Cim all tell your friends... |
| 04:29.56 | Guerin | falkon: you're welcome, fuckwit |
| 04:30.00 | litage | Cim: are you willing to learn and read and play around? if so, debian's good for you |
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| 04:30.12 | jetscreamer | ok. if you have 2 different sources, with 2 different packages, they will download at the same time when you install them. but, if you have 2 different sources, and a bunch of the same packages on each of the mirrors, it will only download all the packages from one server, instead of splitting them up between servers. how do you get this functionality? |
| 04:30.13 | Cim | i just had slack but had an accident lol |
| 04:30.16 | Cim | Looking for a switch |
| 04:30.24 | Guerin | Cim: if you can deal with slackware, debian will be peasy |
| 04:30.56 | cartel_ | Guerin: i knew there was a way, i did it before |
| 04:31.01 | falkon | I can't find proper documentation on how to enable the shutdown and restart buttons in the XFCE4 WM. I tried following docs saying to vi /etc/sudoers, but the file is read-only |
| 04:31.02 | Guerin | cartel_: did what? |
| 04:31.12 | Guerin | falkon: man sudoers |
| 04:31.14 | jetscreamer | !su |
| 04:31.15 | dpkg | Password: |
| 04:31.15 | cartel_ | Guerin: downgrade... |
| 04:31.21 | Guerin | falkon: and you should use visudo |
| 04:31.31 | falkon | Guerin: ahh okay |
| 04:31.52 | Guerin | cartel_: downgrading, like anything, is POSSIBLE. That doesn't make it easy, recommended, supported, reliable or wise. |
| 04:32.12 | Guerin | cartel_: you weren't told it couldn't be done |
| 04:32.38 | cartel_ | Guerin: well i was. |
| 04:32.44 | Daveman | gah |
| 04:32.49 | liable | sure.. |
| 04:32.54 | peterS | jetscreamer: afaik, you don't |
| 04:33.09 | jetscreamer | my questions are like xf86config-4: VIDEOADAPTOR SECTION Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ... |
| 04:33.13 | jetscreamer | cept peterS |
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| 04:33.16 | Daveman | hrm, what would be an appropraite control 'Section' for dev libs ;p |
| 04:33.51 | peterS | jetscreamer: in this case I don't know. I've always been under the impression that apt did not have a feature for parallelizing downloads from the same set of mirrors. but it might. |
| 04:33.54 | Guerin | cartel_: by whom? The question you asked, as I recall, is how to do it EASILY. You had to manually reinstall dpkg. That's not easy. |
| 04:34.21 | jetscreamer | all i know is it will do it for different packages that don't exist on the same server |
| 04:34.26 | jetscreamer | automagically |
| 04:35.24 | jetscreamer | i had a migrane type headache earlier... :( |
| 04:35.31 | jetscreamer | was eyestrain |
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| 04:36.22 | peterS | jetscreamer: yes, it will. but I don't think you can tell it to do so for the same server (even if it's really a mirror network) |
| 04:37.03 | cartel_ | Guerin: meh, by my standards that is easy :P |
| 04:37.14 | SerajewelKS | what is package for the CVS server? "cvsd" looks like it's just a wrapper daemon. |
| 04:37.20 | SerajewelKS | s/is/is the/ |
| 04:37.38 | Toad | there is no CVS server, per se |
| 04:37.39 | peterS | SerajewelKS: just plain cvs |
| 04:37.40 | cartel_ | SerajewelKS: cvs pserver is horrible insecure. use subversion |
| 04:37.48 | Daveman | :\ |
| 04:38.03 | peterS | I don't know of any vulnerabilities in cvs pserver |
| 04:38.16 | gravity | Yeah... I don't think that's the problem with cvs |
| 04:38.19 | peterS | nevertheless, running cvs over rsh or ssh is usually simpler |
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| 04:38.43 | devrethman | hey everybody |
| 04:39.02 | devrethman | i have an inceredibly stupid question: |
| 04:39.16 | peterS | devrethman: our standards here are pretty low, you might be surprised how stupid your question doesn't sound |
| 04:39.23 | jetscreamer | peterS: i mean if you have packages selected that exist on both servers (or any # of servers) split the d/l up between the servers to lower the impact on each server |
| 04:39.30 | devrethman | which architecture CD to I download when i have an athlon64 |
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| 04:39.36 | steve_ | hey does anyone know how to get an atheros card to work in etch? |
| 04:39.43 | peterS | devrethman: http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64, go from there |
| 04:39.46 | peterS | devrethman: it's an amd64 machine |
| 04:39.48 | MaxPower | ok the debian binary isnt a bootable for some reason |
| 04:39.52 | MaxPower | ill do the netinstall |
| 04:39.54 | devrethman | thought so |
| 04:40.00 | jetscreamer | atheros is wsomething not eth |
| 04:40.01 | devrethman | didn't see that in the list of CD's though |
| 04:40.04 | jetscreamer | !atheros |
| 04:40.07 | stew | steve_: /msg dpkg madwifi-install |
| 04:40.10 | jetscreamer | i read it somewhere |
| 04:40.15 | peterS | devrethman: it's not on the official list, so go through the URL I gave |
| 04:40.27 | SerajewelKS | cartel_, i don't need a public CVS server, it's for use by me on my own box |
| 04:40.32 | peterS | devrethman: when sarge was released, there was not enough space on the regular mirror network to add yet another port, so it's unofficial still |
| 04:40.38 | steve_ | stew: did that verbatim- didn;t work |
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| 04:40.55 | stew | steve_: be more specific than "didn;t work" |
| 04:40.55 | SerajewelKS | peterS, so I can use cvs without a server at all? what is a "pserver" then? |
| 04:41.10 | devrethman | ah.... |
| 04:41.13 | peterS | SerajewelKS: if you have login access to a box, you can run cvs with local repositories there |
| 04:41.15 | devrethman | does it still have all the packages? |
| 04:41.22 | steve_ | uhm did everything it said- but when i type ifconfig- ath0 doesn't come up |
| 04:41.38 | peterS | SerajewelKS: so the normal thing to do is use cvs with ssh as the network transport - it then runs cvs on the box with the repositories, inside the ssh session |
| 04:41.38 | stew | steve_: when you type ifconfig -a? |
| 04:41.52 | peterS | SerajewelKS: alternatively you *can* run a cvs pserver, then you don't need ssh installed on the two machines |
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| 04:41.57 | stew | steve_: did you modprobe the driver? |
| 04:42.02 | jair | !sergino |
| 04:42.08 | jair | !sergino seen |
| 04:42.08 | steve_ | whoa- when i type ifconfig -a it comes up |
| 04:42.19 | steve_ | but: |
| 04:42.21 | steve_ | bash: iwconfig: command not found |
| 04:42.28 | steve_ | ??? |
| 04:42.31 | stew | steve_: apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 04:42.36 | jair | !seen sergino |
| 04:42.38 | dpkg | jair: i haven't seen 'sergino' |
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| 04:42.44 | steve_ | d'oh |
| 04:42.44 | stew | steve_: and man interfaces ; /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 04:42.47 | peterS | SerajewelKS: anyway, the 'cvs' package asks you if you want to run a pserver, when you start up. since the pserver requires a bit of configuration, it's simplest just to say no, and use ssh as your network transport instead |
| 04:43.24 | rene1 | nice thing that is apt-get |
| 04:43.52 | peterS | SerajewelKS: to use ssh as the remote transport, just specify the cvs root as 'user@machinename:/path/to/cvs/repository' |
| 04:44.00 | jetscreamer | sometimes it chokes on very large dependencies |
| 04:44.05 | jetscreamer | not very often |
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| 04:44.16 | peterS | SerajewelKS: debian's cvs uses ssh by default - some other systems may use rsh by default, in which case you also want to export the environment variable CVS_RSH=ssh |
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| 04:44.43 | SerajewelKS | peterS, can i use CVS to work on a repository without using any server at all? |
| 04:44.47 | steve_ | how do i get kismet to work with atheros? |
| 04:44.49 | SerajewelKS | e.g. a local directory |
| 04:45.02 | peterS | SerajewelKS: yes. then just specify the CVS root of /path/to/your/repository |
| 04:45.17 | SerajewelKS | peterS, thanks a bunch... saves me setting up yet another daemon |
| 04:45.19 | akhayyat | why isn't there a pan (the news reader) package for testing? |
| 04:45.31 | Guerin | !why is pan not in testing |
| 04:45.32 | dpkg | pan is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=pan |
| 04:45.36 | peterS | SerajewelKS: if you're starting fresh here, I'd echo the advice of others here and say investigate subversion instead. it's an excellent replacement for cvs, although it does have limitations compared to some other, more different, systems |
| 04:45.41 | kelmo | hi, when using svn-buildpackage to build+tag, is it possible to disable the creation of a new changelog entry? |
| 04:45.41 | akhayyat | there is one for stable and unstable, but not for testing !! |
| 04:46.20 | peterS | !why is pan not in testing |
| 04:46.21 | dpkg | pan is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=pan |
| 04:46.48 | peterS | akhayyat: no doubt it was removed for one reason or another |
| 04:46.53 | peterS | manually I mean |
| 04:47.13 | akhayyat | peterS, what do you mean manually? |
| 04:47.29 | akhayyat | peterS, it is not there at packages.debian.org |
| 04:47.30 | peterS | akhayyat: like, someone deleted it from the testing archive for some reason |
| 04:47.31 | Guerin | akhayyat: manually: adv. "by hand" |
| 04:47.46 | dan2_ | !why is dpkg in testing |
| 04:47.47 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, dan2_ |
| 04:47.51 | dan2_ | !why is dpkg not in testing |
| 04:47.52 | dpkg | dpkg is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=dpkg |
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| 04:48.01 | akhayyat | Guerin, you think this is what i was missing?! |
| 04:48.06 | Guerin | dan2_: testing.pl is smarter than you |
| 04:48.22 | Guerin | akhayyat: Did you read the damn link that's been shown twice already? |
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| 04:48.40 | akhayyat | Guerin, I just joined the channel |
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| 04:48.53 | akhayyat | Guerin, so i wouldn't know what was shown already |
| 04:48.56 | peterS | akhayyat: I asked dpkg to post a link to bjorn.haxx.se |
| 04:49.00 | peterS | akhayyat: *after* you asked your question |
| 04:49.01 | mwilson | akhayyat: Nonsense. |
| 04:49.06 | SerajewelKS | peterS, rsh: ..: Name or service not known |
| 04:49.07 | mwilson | You asked, you were told twice. |
| 04:49.09 | Guerin | akhayyat: both peterS and I have shown you the link |
| 04:49.11 | mwilson | Even *I* saw. |
| 04:49.12 | Cim | hm, Does Debian come with any development packages by default? |
| 04:49.13 | Guerin | go read it already |
| 04:49.20 | Cim | I mean out of the box, can i be programming? |
| 04:49.22 | SerajewelKS | peterS, what is the syntax to operate on a local repository? |
| 04:49.33 | Guerin | Cim: no; install build-essential and some other things |
| 04:49.46 | peterS | SerajewelKS: cvs -d /var/cvs/myrepo checkout mymodule |
| 04:49.54 | Guerin | Cim: debian installs nothing bar what is absolutely necessary unless you tell it to |
| 04:49.58 | peterS | SerajewelKS: that's assuming /var/cvs/myrepo has been created, and the mymodule module within it |
| 04:50.03 | Cim | oh ic |
| 04:50.03 | akhayyat | Guerin, obviously i missed that.. sorry for that |
| 04:50.12 | SerajewelKS | peterS, so i can't use "-d ../path" ? |
| 04:50.12 | Cim | Well, how would one go about installing apackage? |
| 04:50.15 | Cim | I've used yum before |
| 04:50.23 | mwilson | akhayyat: Yeah, it's common to ask questions but not pay any attention to the answers. |
| 04:50.23 | peterS | SerajewelKS: I very much doubt you can use relative paths |
| 04:50.29 | SerajewelKS | peterS, okay |
| 04:50.39 | Guerin | Cim: /msg dpkg search, man aptitude |
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| 04:50.56 | peterS | SerajewelKS: in subversion you actually have to say file:///var/whatever |
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| 04:51.10 | SerajewelKS | peterS, cvs [import aborted]: /home/chris/..../CVSROOT: No such file or directory |
| 04:51.13 | xerophyte | can i able to combine server partitions without losing the data ? |
| 04:51.17 | jkindy | we can i get some free porn |
| 04:51.23 | peterS | SerajewelKS: right, you have to find the directory that has a CVSROOT subdirectory |
| 04:51.26 | SerajewelKS | peterS, do i need to run some kind of "create repository" command? |
| 04:51.33 | Guerin | jkindy: http://yomomma.com |
| 04:51.35 | peterS | SerajewelKS: yeah, it's in cvs admin, I think. it's been awhile. |
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| 04:51.53 | Guerin | xerophyte: unlikely. |
| 04:52.03 | peterS | SerajewelKS: in subversion the equivalent is 'svnadmin create /path/to/repo' and then 'svn checkout file:///path/to/repo' |
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| 04:52.08 | jkindy | yeah no |
| 04:52.10 | steve_ | what is the kismet config file? |
| 04:52.13 | akhayyat | mwilson, it is sometimes quite hard to spot your answers |
| 04:52.32 | Guerin | steve_: man kismet |
| 04:52.59 | akhayyat | anyways, the posted link says: pan is scheduled for removal, but doesn't say why? |
| 04:53.05 | SerajewelKS | peterS, google found it... cvs -d /path/to/repo init |
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| 04:53.22 | Guerin | akhayyat: see also bugs.debian.org |
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| 04:53.29 | peterS | SerajewelKS: yeah, that sounds right. I haven't been a cvs admin (as opposed to user) for a long time |
| 04:53.55 | akhayyat | Guerin, i think packages.qa.debian.org has the answers i am looking for |
| 04:54.09 | mwilson | <sigh> offlineimap broken again... |
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| 04:57.58 | litage | is hda the drive connected to the end or middle of the IDE cable? |
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| 04:58.21 | kelmo | anyone know if its possible to disable the new changleog entry after doing a final tag with svn-buildpackage? |
| 04:58.25 | peterS | litage: end |
| 04:58.28 | litage | thanks |
| 04:58.35 | peterS | litage: if you jumpered for cable select, anyway, which you should |
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| 04:58.50 | litage | peterS: and if you're not using jumpers? |
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| 04:59.13 | amahbod | hey all, i popped in the dvd "guess who" (a newer one) and tried to play it using mplayer and it said encrypted dvd in the console |
| 04:59.17 | peterS | litage: the drive probably came preconfigured for cable select, meaning the position on the cable determines its address |
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| 04:59.27 | amahbod | even though i the decss code installed |
| 04:59.35 | peterS | litage: if you change the jumpers, you should know that hda is the master or only drive, hdb is the slave drive |
| 04:59.45 | amahbod | it only occurs with this dvd though; all other dvds play fine |
| 05:00.05 | kelmo | amahbod: aarcos protection maybe |
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| 05:00.19 | amahbod | kelmo, any way around it? |
| 05:00.31 | kelmo | amahbod: unfortunately not in linux afaik |
| 05:00.42 | amahbod | kelmo, thanks for the info! |
| 05:04.07 | mikew- | anyone using qemu on debian that is having slowness issues even with kqemu enabled? |
| 05:04.47 | Supaplex | emulation is teh slow |
| 05:04.59 | mikew- | Supaplex: huh? |
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| 05:08.02 | xixor | Hey everybody. I am in the market for a pcmcia wireless adapter, should do both 802.11b/g and of course, have good linux support. Anyone know any makes/models to get? Or to avoid for that matter? |
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| 05:12.04 | litage | thanks for your help peterS |
| 05:12.20 | peterS | np |
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| 05:15.36 | sn00p_ | There has to be an easier way to change the root password the one that dpkg recommened isn't working |
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| 05:16.11 | mwilson | Why should changing the root password be easy? |
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| 05:16.27 | sn00p_ | It should fucking work the one I gave it when it installed but it doesnt |
| 05:16.43 | flipmcf | is caps lock on? |
| 05:16.50 | mwilson | Which simply means what you think you gave it... isn't what you gave it. Now, wasn't that easy? |
| 05:16.52 | sn00p_ | lol |
| 05:16.55 | sn00p_ | my fucking user account works |
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| 05:17.06 | sn00p_ | fucking linux |
| 05:17.14 | mwilson | Good for your user account. What does that have to do with the root account? |
| 05:17.32 | sn00p_ | i'm geting real mad and impatitent |
| 05:17.33 | mwilson | How is it the fault of "f*cking Linux" that you can't type the same thing twice? |
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| 05:17.38 | flipmcf | sn00p_, reboot to runlevel 1 and proceed from there. |
| 05:17.40 | sn00p_ | because linux fucking sucks |
| 05:17.53 | mwilson | Then why're you using it? |
| 05:17.54 | sn00p_ | i'm beginning to hate it more then windos |
| 05:17.58 | jm_ | just switch to Windows, all your problems will be solved |
| 05:17.59 | sn00p_ | so I wont have to use windows |
| 05:18.12 | baler | what is the command to select which desktop manager i want to use? |
| 05:18.12 | sn00p_ | fuck no |
| 05:18.16 | mwilson | Why shouldn't you use Windows? |
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| 05:18.25 | sn00p_ | how do you reboot to runlevel 1? |
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| 05:19.19 | sn00p_ | If I change i'm changing back to freebsd because freebsd supports more hardware then linux does |
| 05:19.31 | sn00p_ | linux is a pile of crap |
| 05:19.47 | mwilson | Then use fBSD. |
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| 05:20.09 | mwilson | You act like someone should actually care whether you use fBSD or Windows or Linux or anything else. |
| 05:20.27 | mwilson | You should instead use whatever gets whatever job done you think needs to be done. |
| 05:20.33 | deadcat | oh i think i just d/c him (= |
| 05:20.59 | bob2 | abuse in /msg, shock |
| 05:21.07 | deadcat | damn. |
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| 05:23.03 | deadcat | sn00p_ is gone bob2 (= |
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| 05:23.46 | flipmcf | sn00p_, http://linuxgazette.net/107/tomar.html may be of use to you. |
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| 05:23.57 | xixor | wow. Are there absolutely no 802.11g cards fully supported under linux? |
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| 05:24.01 | liable | meh |
| 05:24.08 | deadcat | flipmcf: no pint. he got disconnected. |
| 05:24.17 | deadcat | xixor: yes tehre is. |
| 05:24.18 | flipmcf | oops |
| 05:24.22 | liable | xixor: several |
| 05:24.29 | deadcat | xixor: you just dont know them. |
| 05:24.32 | mwilson | xixor: Yes, everyone ignoring your question certainly means there are no supported cards. |
| 05:24.33 | bob2 | xixor: ipw2200, prism54 (pci and pcmcia) |
| 05:24.37 | bob2 | probably others |
| 05:24.59 | zinx | note those are chipsets, and cover a lot of actual cards |
| 05:25.14 | xixor | mwilson: no, I looked through http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz, and don't see any 802.11g with any linux suppot |
| 05:25.30 | deadcat | xixor: because you're a moron. |
| 05:25.35 | flipmcf | xixor, just saw a discussion about that. Solution was to get a regular 'ol nic and use an external wireless adapter as a bridge |
| 05:25.40 | liable | my atheros does g |
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| 05:25.45 | hyperstream_ | is xorg better than xfree? |
| 05:25.50 | deadcat | hyperstream_: same |
| 05:26.27 | hyperstream_ | has debian recently switched to xorg over xfreE? |
| 05:26.38 | deadcat | hyperstream_: sid only |
| 05:26.45 | streuner | apt, topicsmite hyperstream |
| 05:26.48 | apt | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon hyperstream. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 05:27.08 | streuner | hyperstream_: /msg apt xorg sarge |
| 05:27.11 | xixor | deadcat: thanks |
| 05:27.21 | hyperstream_ | im using unstable |
| 05:27.29 | deadcat | hyperstream_: feeel free to go xorg |
| 05:27.53 | deadcat | hyperstream_: actually you should because that means you havent upgrade your system in a while |
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| 05:28.37 | hyperstream_ | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". direct rendering: No OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
| 05:28.40 | liable | xorg is optional innit? |
| 05:28.49 | mwilson | liable: No. |
| 05:28.50 | hyperstream_ | a friend says that xorg would solve this issue |
| 05:29.05 | mwilson | hyperstream_: Your friend is a moron. |
| 05:29.13 | hyperstream_ | negative |
| 05:29.24 | liable | roger |
| 05:29.33 | hyperstream_ | 'fire in the hole' ? |
| 05:30.10 | bob2 | "watch the fuck out" |
| 05:30.18 | hyperstream_ | mwilson, so how would i go about fixing this issue? |
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| 05:31.02 | deadcat | what are we playing ghost recon here? |
| 05:31.20 | hyperstream_ | Counter Strike ! |
| 05:32.04 | deadcat | CS dont have "watch the fuck out" |
| 05:32.20 | hyperstream_ | sure it does. when i get on the mic :D |
| 05:33.07 | deadcat | hyperstream_: ah. you must be one of those shy kids in real life so you get to scream at other people in CS. |
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| 05:34.26 | hyperstream_ | shy in real life , i doubt i come from new zealand :). straight up as guy, and straight up knock you out ... or die trying kinda guy lol |
| 05:35.00 | deadcat | hyperstream_: then you gonna be die trying. i doubt you can get anything accomplish. |
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| 05:36.45 | bob2 | merrick and rosso explained it best |
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| 05:36.58 | bob2 | when talking about auklands annual "get drun kand smash your best mates head in" festival |
| 05:37.09 | hyperstream_ | lol |
| 05:37.12 | hyperstream_ | auckland |
| 05:37.17 | bob2 | er, right, typo |
| 05:37.24 | hyperstream_ | yeah that sounds right |
| 05:37.25 | hyperstream_ | :) |
| 05:38.52 | dcmwai | hello all, |
| 05:38.56 | bob2 | hm, I should try to find some nz beer here |
| 05:39.05 | bob2 | since you can apparently get cooper's over there |
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| 05:39.33 | dcmwai | Is there any embedded debian or something for CF-IDE , system less then 32MB ram and with soundcard support? |
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| 05:39.59 | Warp4 | anyone familiar with sendmail? |
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| 05:40.07 | bob2 | sound card support only depends on the kernel |
| 05:40.25 | Warp4 | having a problem with sendmail not receiving emails but it can send them |
| 05:40.26 | bob2 | and 32MB of ram is plenty for regular debian |
| 05:41.08 | dcmwai | bob2, really .. |
| 05:41.23 | bob2 | sure |
| 05:41.30 | bob2 | even for apt |
| 05:41.38 | dcmwai | bob2, I'm using gentoo now however the boot fail happen at the time when populating /dev |
| 05:42.03 | bob2 | does this have anything to do with Debian? |
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| 05:42.22 | bob2 | Warp4: I'd try #sendmail, sendmail isn't very common amongst regular debian users these days |
| 05:42.32 | bob2 | Warp4: I assume you checked that your ISP isn't blocking it? |
| 05:42.33 | dcmwai | bob2, sure no thing just to make sure same problem didn't happen twice |
| 05:42.34 | Warp4 | thanks (i use postfix myself) |
| 05:42.42 | Warp4 | bob2 no it isnt blocking it |
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| 05:43.28 | bob2 | dcmwai: 32MB is tons for woody, and I think enough for sarge |
| 05:43.53 | Supaplex | I have a radius box that humms along with Pg+freeradius on 32mb of ram. |
| 05:43.58 | dcmwai | 32 is system ram, I've about 128MB storage.. (on the CF) |
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| 05:44.15 | bob2 | debian base is on the order of 80MB |
| 05:44.20 | bob2 | less when you throw away docs |
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| 05:45.07 | dcmwai | bob2, any guide for me :) |
| 05:45.17 | bob2 | install debian |
| 05:45.20 | bob2 | delete /usr/share/doc/ |
| 05:45.22 | bob2 | profit! |
| 05:45.24 | dcmwai | bob2, oh by the way debian is already pre compile right? |
| 05:45.29 | bob2 | of course |
| 05:46.20 | dcmwai | bob2, small question .. can I install debian under/inside gentoo having not enough disk space.. |
| 05:46.39 | Supaplex | !confuse dcmwai |
| 05:46.40 | dpkg | No, who are your ferret yesterday, dcmwai? trousers of the democracy of mongolia with extra crabpaste |
| 05:46.51 | streuner | apt, gentoosmite dcmwai |
| 05:46.54 | apt | ACTION spends 8 weeks recompiling dcmwai, and when it's all done, dcmwai runs no faster than previously |
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| 05:48.11 | jm_ | dcmwai: you can install Debian from another running Linux system, read Installation manual |
| 05:48.12 | dcmwai | I presume that is a NO.. |
| 05:48.20 | dcmwai | jm_, thank :) |
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| 05:48.56 | streuner | dcmwai: that's a no to trolls like you |
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| 05:50.09 | xerophyte | what is the official site for CAN-2005- alert database where can i check them |
| 05:50.35 | Supaplex | google.com/search?q=CAN-2005 |
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| 05:51.05 | xerophyte | Supaplex, that pull out all the crossrefers .. i wanna know who keep that database |
| 05:51.09 | Daveman | woot, got my deb pkgs built! :D |
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| 05:51.47 | Supaplex | http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-1990 first hit seems to be pretty lucky. |
| 05:52.13 | LinuxNIT-laptop | how do you set the setting for power management on a debina laptop? |
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| 05:55.59 | dcmwai | jim, bob2 sorry Woody is on Kernel 2.6? or 2.4? |
| 05:56.13 | Daveman | LinuxNIT-laptop, you want power management for the system, itself? |
| 05:56.20 | bob2 | 2.4 |
| 05:56.24 | bob2 | but woody is from 2002 |
| 05:56.29 | Daveman | yay 2.4! \o/ |
| 05:57.02 | LinuxNIT-laptop | yea i guess like controlling when it suspends, shuts off the HD when to throttle thhe spu and stuff |
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| 05:57.32 | Daveman | LinuxNIT-laptop, I think you want apm[d] :) |
| 05:57.38 | dcmwai | Sarge are 2.6? |
| 05:57.43 | Daveman | heh, yes |
| 05:57.48 | Daveman | sarge r winnar! |
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| 05:57.59 | Supaplex | 2.8 kernel ;) |
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| 05:58.05 | Supaplex | as if. :p |
| 05:58.06 | Daveman | lo |
| 05:58.08 | Daveman | ;p |
| 05:58.08 | streuner | hehe |
| 05:58.11 | Daveman | basically |
| 05:58.18 | Daveman | talk about "cutting-edge" :P |
| 05:58.24 | bob2 | depends how old the machine is |
| 05:58.24 | LinuxNIT-laptop | well the guy who gave it to me said taht acpid works better with it but is there any way to set the times for either? |
| 05:58.42 | dcmwai | I wonder how many problem will 2.4 have with alsa sound card.. |
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| 05:59.37 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ;P I quit smoking! |
| 05:59.47 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: I LOVE YOU!! (= |
| 05:59.53 | Daveman | LinuxNIT-laptop, yes |
| 05:59.55 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Weeee... I am fiening like a crack whore ;) |
| 05:59.58 | streuner | TwistedEmotions: congrats |
| 06:00.03 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: not even 1 in a while right? |
| 06:00.03 | Supaplex | TwistedEmotions: yay, no more burnt TwistedEmotions smell! |
| 06:00.03 | Daveman | rofl? |
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| 06:00.05 | bob2 | theres no such thing as an "alsa sound card" |
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| 06:56.53 | Tiggs | whats the command to reconfigure the xserver? |
| 06:57.03 | sanxiyn | !drxx Tiggs |
| 06:57.05 | dpkg | Tiggs: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:57.07 | deadcat | sanxiyn: too fast |
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| 06:57.23 | Tiggs | thank you! |
| 06:57.24 | Led_Zeppelin | how can I link to 32 bit libraries when running ./configure? |
| 06:57.38 | TwistedEmotions | !drxx Led_Zeppelin |
| 06:57.38 | dpkg | Led_Zeppelin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:57.42 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha I win! |
| 06:57.49 | TwistedEmotions | ;( |
| 06:57.54 | TwistedEmotions | sorry |
| 06:57.58 | Led_Zeppelin | huh? |
| 06:58.15 | TwistedEmotions | Led_Zeppelin: ignore me |
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| 06:58.52 | sep | TwistedEmotions, hmm you need to increase your medication i think |
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| 06:59.14 | Flammifer | yo ! I'm looking for advice |
| 06:59.16 | TwistedEmotions | Grrr.. I need a smoke.. ;P |
| 06:59.22 | deadcat | haha |
| 06:59.25 | TwistedEmotions | !tell Flammifer about ask |
| 06:59.25 | Flammifer | my system is acting weird (crashing / freezing, etc.) |
| 06:59.25 | sussudio | Flammifer: penicillin? |
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| 06:59.41 | sussudio | Flammifer: #gentoo? |
| 06:59.45 | TwistedEmotions | Wee I win that time! |
| 06:59.47 | Flammifer | I think I may want to reinstall gnome ... is that a good idea ? |
| 07:00.08 | deadcat | yes |
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| 07:00.19 | Flammifer | (And how would it be done ? just reinstalling the packages with apt ?) |
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| 07:01.23 | Flammifer | Does reinstalling stuff with apt solve problems ? |
| 07:01.30 | TwistedEmotions | Flammifer: apt-get remove --purge and then apt-get install |
| 07:02.52 | sanxiyn | Flammifer: Are you running unstable? |
| 07:02.57 | Flammifer | (does "reinstall" do roughly the same thing ?) |
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| 07:03.07 | sanxiyn | Flammifer: apt-get --reinstall install does the same thing. |
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| 07:03.28 | nmoore | can anyone advise me if parted can be used while partitions are mounted? i assume that i have to boot into a rescue disc. |
| 07:03.39 | bob2 | that sounds like a very bad idea |
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| 07:03.59 | mwilson | nmoore: Does the documentation for parted say you can use it on a mounted partition? |
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| 07:04.18 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: lets go sky diving |
| 07:04.25 | sanxiyn | mwilson: Heh. |
| 07:04.32 | Flammifer | I'm getting "debian-security" from sarge/updates; "debian" from testing, and "debian-unofficial" from sid ... is that normal / ok or is it likely to cause spontaneous combustion of my system ? |
| 07:04.32 | nmoore | mwilson: i can't find any reference to it |
| 07:04.35 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: brb. shower.. class tomorrow... so much hw/reading.. and i really need to apply for transfer (= |
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| 07:04.47 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am affraid of height man HAHHAHA |
| 07:04.48 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: goodluck ;) |
| 07:04.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: me too.. but fuck it |
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| 07:05.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: we jump.. either we live or die. |
| 07:05.28 | deadcat | damn thats a huge gamble (= |
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| 07:05.41 | c_olin | whenever a Perl script runs it get an error like "perl: warning: Setting locale failed.perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_US:en_GB:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_US:en_GB:en"" |
| 07:05.44 | c_olin | any ideas? |
| 07:05.50 | nmoore | mwilson: use a book disk seems to be the answer |
| 07:05.52 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: haha remember linux expo 50/50 right? |
| 07:05.54 | sanxiyn | nmoore: When you want to resize a file system, make sure it is not mounted. -- Parted manual. |
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| 07:06.07 | nmoore | sanxiyn: thanks |
| 07:06.44 | mwilson | More properly, the second is a roundabout way to do the first. |
| 07:06.56 | litage | since you can authenticate with ldap, why would you want to use radius to authenticate, along with ldap? |
| 07:07.24 | sanxiyn | litage: Because some clients don't support ldap authentication but support RADIUS? |
| 07:07.39 | mwilson | c_olin: Yes, actually build support for the locale you've told the system to use. |
| 07:07.44 | sanxiyn | litage: If that's not the case, you don't need RADIUS...? |
| 07:08.28 | sanxiyn | (Well, RADIUS is an accounting protocol as well as an authentication protocol, so there may be other use but...) |
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| 07:11.23 | c_olin | mwilson: All i need is en_US I dont need the other oen, how can i remove this from my locale list? |
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| 07:11.36 | litage | if you were to use radius to authenticate through ldap, radius would simply use ldap's database and act as an intermediary for those clients who don't support ldap? |
| 07:11.39 | r00t_ | DEBIAN |
| 07:11.41 | r00t_ | SUP! |
| 07:11.57 | r00t_ | ... I upgraded today and... xorg doesn't work anymore |
| 07:12.01 | r00t_ | it make me sad :( |
| 07:12.06 | sanxiyn | litage: Yes. |
| 07:12.28 | mwilson | r00t_: xorg in unstable hasn't changed in weeks. Try another one. |
| 07:12.40 | sanxiyn | c_olin: You may want to check /etc/environment. |
| 07:12.54 | r00t_ | mwilson: I use xorg |
| 07:13.00 | r00t_ | I was away for a month |
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| 07:13.03 | litage | thanks sanxiyn |
| 07:13.05 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Aha. |
| 07:13.06 | r00t_ | came back, updated |
| 07:13.17 | r00t_ | xorg no workee on reboot |
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| 07:13.42 | sanxiyn | (Xorg last changed 2005-08-10, btw) |
| 07:13.45 | r00t_ | I also see the configure util has been... downgraded? |
| 07:13.57 | r00t_ | glib changed while I was away |
| 07:14.01 | mwilson | What "configure util"? |
| 07:14.02 | r00t_ | so it was a big upgrade |
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| 07:14.12 | mwilson | What does glib have to do with xorg? |
| 07:14.14 | r00t_ | mwilson: xorgconfig |
| 07:14.26 | mwilson | Oh, that's right... it doesn't have anything to do with xorg. |
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| 07:14.38 | r00t_ | mwilson: it does |
| 07:14.42 | litage | sanxiyn: awesome possum, thanks |
| 07:14.43 | mwilson | Really. Do tell. |
| 07:14.57 | hyperstream_ | hmm where is the xfconfig-4 in debian ? (im running gnome on xfree) |
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| 07:15.11 | r00t_ | it might be.. oh I don't know, the clib... |
| 07:15.23 | sanxiyn | hyperstream_: /etc/X11/... |
| 07:15.29 | r00t_ | and since it has been changed new bins had to be installed |
| 07:15.42 | hyperstream_ | sanxiyn, no such folder |
| 07:15.45 | r00t_ | oh but that has nothing to do with xorg.. except I saw that it was updated too |
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| 07:16.04 | r00t_ | but that must not have happended, I must be stupid... I must be... a woman |
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| 07:16.25 | r00t_ | so how do I get xorg working again |
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| 07:17.19 | r00t_ | I want to go murder tons of pro-women's rights women |
| 07:17.35 | r00t_ | and if xorg won't work |
| 07:17.39 | r00t_ | I'll do it! |
| 07:17.51 | r00t_ | you don't want the poor women to be murdered do you! |
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| 07:18.25 | c_olin | after i change my /etc/evironment file what do i have to run to make the change take effect? |
| 07:18.38 | sanxiyn | c_olin: Logout and login. |
| 07:18.45 | c_olin | meh |
| 07:18.47 | c_olin | too lazy |
| 07:18.52 | c_olin | thanks though |
| 07:19.04 | sanxiyn | c_olin: Well, you coud just set LANG yourself. |
| 07:19.08 | sanxiyn | export LANG='...' |
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| 07:19.11 | MaxPower | hey, i got a question, when i installed x windows, i choose the wrong video driver, how can i change that to another one? |
| 07:20.06 | mwilson | r00t_: (a) what would being male or female have to do with anything, (b) you need to learn the difference between libc6 and glib before making silly statements. |
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| 07:20.23 | litage | `dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system` methinks |
| 07:20.30 | r00t_ | hi |
| 07:20.38 | mwilson | r00t_: (a) what would being male or female have to do with anything, (b) you need to learn the difference between libc6 and glib before making silly statements. |
| 07:21.19 | r00t_ | i ment libc6 then |
| 07:21.29 | bob2 | wtf |
| 07:21.37 | MaxPower | cheers |
| 07:21.44 | bob2 | please keep your idiocy out of the channel, r00t_ |
| 07:21.46 | Daveman | :p |
| 07:21.47 | MaxPower | dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system |
| 07:21.52 | r00t_ | MaxPower: tried that |
| 07:22.01 | r00t_ | "not installed" |
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| 07:22.06 | MaxPower | damn |
| 07:22.09 | r00t_ | tried xorg-server |
| 07:22.11 | r00t_ | tried xorg |
| 07:22.14 | r00t_ | tried xorgserver |
| 07:22.14 | bob2 | so |
| 07:22.17 | bob2 | shut up and install them |
| 07:22.21 | sanxiyn | r00t_: ... |
| 07:22.27 | r00t_ | bob2: xorg is installed |
| 07:22.35 | sanxiyn | !drxx r00t_ |
| 07:22.35 | r00t_ | bob2: it was working |
| 07:22.36 | dpkg | r00t_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 07:22.47 | sanxiyn | So it's xserver-xorg, not xorg-server, hm. |
| 07:22.55 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Too bad. |
| 07:22.59 | r00t_ | ah thanks |
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| 07:23.10 | MaxPower | !dpkg xmd5 |
| 07:23.11 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
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| 07:24.01 | MaxPower | sweet, thanks heaps |
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| 07:24.42 | Daveman | !dpkg dpkg |
| 07:24.42 | dpkg | i heard dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack, or a smart infobot, or voltagex's friend |
| 07:24.45 | Daveman | heh |
| 07:25.13 | r00t_ | reconfigging didn't fix X |
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| 07:26.53 | sanxiyn | r00t_: No idea. |
| 07:27.20 | sanxiyn | r00t_: You were away for a month? |
| 07:27.33 | r00t_ | yes |
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| 07:28.33 | sanxiyn | I think it's unlikely Xorg is the cause... it was updated 07-12 (>1 month ago) and 08-10, so it's just once. |
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| 07:28.57 | sanxiyn | Perhaps some other package. No idea. |
| 07:29.04 | deadcat | r00t_: you're moron |
| 07:29.39 | deadcat | oh. i thought he was sn00p_ hehe |
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| 07:30.23 | MaxPower | how do i start xwin again from the command prompt? |
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| 07:30.43 | deadcat | startx |
| 07:30.43 | sanxiyn | MaxPower: startx |
| 07:30.46 | deadcat | i win |
| 07:30.54 | sanxiyn | good for you |
| 07:30.59 | r00t_ | sanxiyn: how might I track down the problem (note kernel headers were also upgraded) |
| 07:31.23 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Look at /var/log/Xorg.*.log ? |
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| 07:31.42 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Look for (EE). |
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| 07:32.43 | BriajWrk | hi all |
| 07:33.37 | hyperstream_ | which is best , testing or unstable? |
| 07:33.50 | r00t_ | sanxiyn: I'm getting "no symbols found" errors on the core Xorg modules |
| 07:34.06 | r00t_ | and it's quitting because it can't load them now |
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| 07:35.51 | NoUse | hyperstream_ what are you using it for? |
| 07:35.53 | MaxPower | ok i can now say officially debian kicks ass |
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| 07:36.36 | sanxiyn | r00t_: So that must be the problem... Others may be interested in hearing about that? |
| 07:36.38 | r00t_ | MaxPower: debain-women will make sure they whine it out of existance |
| 07:36.45 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Or try Google search with error messages. |
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| 07:36.57 | r00t_ | MaxPower: you see "evil men" created debian |
| 07:37.07 | hyperstream_ | umm home system |
| 07:37.11 | sanxiyn | r00t_: debian-women isn't about such things. |
| 07:37.16 | hyperstream_ | tv capture. downloading. chatting etc |
| 07:37.18 | r00t_ | sanxiyn: it is |
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| 07:37.27 | r00t_ | sanxiyn: I've read their lists |
| 07:37.34 | sanxiyn | r00t_: I do too. |
| 07:37.39 | sanxiyn | r00t_: We must have got different impressions? |
| 07:37.52 | sanxiyn | hyperstream_: Testing. |
| 07:37.57 | r00t_ | you might be more forgiving then me |
| 07:38.09 | sanxiyn | hyperstream_: I think, stable (=Sarge) won't be too bad, even. |
| 07:38.30 | r00t_ | women come in to "manage" men |
| 07:38.36 | r00t_ | and demand respect from men |
| 07:38.48 | r00t_ | naturally things go down the tubes |
| 07:39.01 | r00t_ | men don't like women bossing them around |
| 07:39.06 | r00t_ | or demanding things of them |
| 07:39.13 | NoUse | hyperstream_ testing will be a bit more stable but unstable will have the latest stuff, I think testing usually makes a pretty usable a desktop system |
| 07:39.16 | sanxiyn | r00t_: From what I can see, debian-women is about helping women to contribute to Debian. |
| 07:39.26 | r00t_ | it would be best if women were kept out of debian |
| 07:39.32 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Hahahaha |
| 07:39.36 | r00t_ | debian is just fine being a domain of men |
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| 07:39.51 | r00t_ | it does not need women |
| 07:40.06 | drac | r00t_: debian word comes out from Debra and Ian.. *sigh* |
| 07:40.21 | r00t_ | yes debra was his girlfriend |
| 07:40.25 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Well, it does not need men either... |
| 07:40.30 | r00t_ | it does |
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| 07:40.35 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Haha. |
| 07:40.39 | r00t_ | if debian had no men there would be no debian |
| 07:40.55 | r00t_ | there would be "deb" and it would be a bumpersticker |
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| 07:40.58 | r00t_ | not a distro |
| 07:41.14 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Debian needs contributors(volunteers). Gender is irrelevant. |
| 07:41.26 | r00t_ | if debian had no male contributers |
| 07:41.32 | r00t_ | you would have no distro |
| 07:41.36 | r00t_ | gender is important |
| 07:41.41 | r00t_ | men created debian |
| 07:41.42 | hyperstream_ | well if i choose to continue with unstable. which would be better xfree or xorg? like for the future. which will be more supported? |
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| 07:41.54 | sanxiyn | hyperstream_: Xorg. |
| 07:41.54 | rvbz | r00t_: are you serious or kidding? |
| 07:41.55 | drac | hyperstream_: xfree is dead.. use xorg |
| 07:42.02 | r00t_ | men are the driving foce behind debian |
| 07:42.03 | hyperstream_ | oo okies |
| 07:42.08 | r00t_ | rvbz serious |
| 07:42.12 | MegaByte | Does anyone know how do I move a file from a place to another (remote-remote) in ftp? |
| 07:42.15 | Coke | Does anybody _really_ care what gender the maintainer a particular package is? I don't think so. |
| 07:42.27 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Go away. |
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| 07:42.51 | r00t_ | when men make something "gender doesn't matter", when women make somethin "oh look this was made by WOMEN!!!" |
| 07:42.56 | r00t_ | men don't matter |
| 07:42.58 | r00t_ | women do |
| 07:43.07 | misschan | not all women think so |
| 07:43.09 | r00t_ | If I could I would kill all women |
| 07:43.18 | r00t_ | since we have artificial wombs now |
| 07:43.26 | deadcat | r00t_: you're sexist |
| 07:43.26 | r00t_ | it is becoming an option |
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| 07:43.31 | r00t_ | deadcat: yes :) |
| 07:43.33 | Coke | deadcat: no, he's trolling for some action |
| 07:43.36 | Phated | deadcat: No, really, you think? |
| 07:43.37 | misschan | if there were no women, there'd be no u |
| 07:43.42 | r00t_ | I'm sexist |
| 07:43.44 | deadcat | Phated: haha. |
| 07:43.52 | deadcat | !ops r00t_ trolling like a whore |
| 07:43.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: r00t_ trolling like a whore |
| 07:43.56 | r00t_ | misschan: if there were no men there'd be no you either |
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| 07:44.06 | Coke | if there was no women there'd be no landing on the moon (or any other achievement of mankind) since men would have nobody to impress |
| 07:44.11 | misschan | I don't have a problem with men |
| 07:44.15 | sanxiyn | Coke: haha |
| 07:44.39 | r00t_ | I think once artificial wombs are working well we should murder all women |
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| 07:44.57 | Phated | !beer bob2 |
| 07:45.00 | sanxiyn | r00t_: Well, you need egg cells too. |
| 07:45.00 | bob2 | hm |
| 07:45.07 | misschan | will u kill all the female babies to if you have one? |
| 07:45.13 | deadcat | sanxiyn: i think hes pussy envy |
| 07:45.30 | Phated | 'Lack'. |
| 07:45.30 | rvbz | aw, c'mon everyone, he was just bragging |
| 07:45.31 | Coke | sanxiyn: it's my firm belief that everything men ever do (even get dressed) is due to women. I know I wouldn't wear this really fancy shirt. Or pants. And there would probably less hygiene too. :) |
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| 07:45.38 | Phated | rvbz: Actually, no. He was being an offensive, sexist prat. |
| 07:45.50 | Coke | deadcat: who doesn't have pussy envy? |
| 07:45.58 | Phated | Me, for one? |
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| 07:46.22 | deadcat | calm down guys. lets put the pussies aside and concentrade on debian (= |
| 07:46.28 | sanxiyn | Coke: So priests are keeping celibacy to impress women. |
| 07:46.37 | Coke | sanxiyn: no, they'er insane |
| 07:46.41 | sanxiyn | Maybe. |
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| 07:47.10 | Coke | no, in my book they are. |
| 07:47.21 | jhaig | On a help page for testing (http://www.debian.org/devel/testing) I read that security updates for testing are not managed by the security team. Is it recommended to use testing for a desktop machine? |
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| 07:47.48 | sanxiyn | jhaig: I think it's fine. |
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| 07:48.24 | Phated | jhaig: This is because security updates for testing come together with normal software upgrades. |
| 07:48.35 | rvbz | any tips for making gaim start iconified under xfce4? I hate the buddy list popping up whenever I login |
| 07:49.06 | bibe | jhaig : yes, I am using sarge on my desktop because packages are relatively recent, but I am already using packages from testing and I plan dist-upgrade will be a matter of two-three months |
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| 07:49.48 | matlads | MSG dpkg kde3.4 |
| 07:49.54 | sanxiyn | bibe: Well, just after libc upgrade, I think. |
| 07:50.25 | bibe | sanxiyn : exact |
| 07:51.35 | sanxiyn | bibe: backports will have its steam again after libc upgrade... |
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| 07:51.51 | rvbz | any gaim users here? do you all tolerate the buddy list window at startup?! |
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| 07:52.37 | nkuttler | rvbz: i guess that's rather an xfce issue than a gaim issue |
| 07:52.53 | bibe | sanxiyn : do you think there will be "broken" packages, say, a week after libc upgrade in testing? i don't think so |
| 07:53.31 | sanxiyn | rvbz: I grudgingly tolerate that. |
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| 07:53.47 | sanxiyn | rvbz: Perhaps you can do some window manager magic to prevent it. |
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| 07:54.07 | mooded | hi all.. anybody knows where i cant get libsocks5-dev ? or why it isnt avail through apt ? (im on testing, partially unstable) |
| 07:54.07 | mwilson | Tolerate the buddy list window? |
| 07:54.10 | mwilson | What does that mean? |
| 07:54.24 | sanxiyn | mwilson: Gaim pops up its buddy list after login. |
| 07:54.32 | sanxiyn | mwilson: And no way to disable that, as far as I know. |
| 07:54.47 | mwilson | Why wouldn't you want it to? |
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| 07:54.50 | bibe | mwilson : rvbz feels the buddy list popup is annoying |
| 07:54.56 | jm_ | mooded: does it have to be 5? |
| 07:54.59 | sanxiyn | mwilson: I just don't want that. |
| 07:55.00 | mwilson | Or do you run it and have no intent of interacting with it? |
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| 07:55.01 | bibe | mwilson : not the buddy list itself |
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| 07:55.09 | mwilson | In which case... why run it? |
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| 07:55.17 | sanxiyn | mwilson: To receive messages? |
| 07:55.18 | mooded | jm_, would be preferred.. |
| 07:55.27 | jm_ | mooded: well try whatever is there and see if it works |
| 07:55.36 | mooded | jm_, thanks |
| 07:55.37 | sanxiyn | mwilson: Not to *send* messages. |
| 07:55.51 | bob2 | mooded: a friend of mine packaged it |
| 07:55.54 | bob2 | mooded: but it's non-free |
| 07:56.04 | mwilson | sanxiyn: What do you expect it to do, then, if it doesn't map the buddy list? Be invisible until someone sends you a message? |
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| 07:56.11 | mwilson | sanxiyn: That's silly. |
| 07:56.13 | sanxiyn | mwilson: Exactly. |
| 07:56.13 | mooded | bob2: oh.. oky ^^ |
| 07:56.28 | sanxiyn | mwilson: (Perhaps not the default, but it'd be nice if I can configure that way.) |
| 07:56.29 | jm_ | ahh that may be why it's not in Debian |
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| 07:56.51 | nkuttler | sanxiyn: just use centericq like a real man :) |
| 07:56.53 | sanxiyn | rvbz: Same for you? |
| 07:57.03 | mwilson | People still bother with ICQ? |
| 07:57.15 | bibe | mwilson : i use psi and skype and no popup shows after login, no need for that. if i want to message someone, i will open the buddy list popup myself. if anyone sends me a message, i will be notified. the point is not to show the list automatically |
| 07:57.21 | rvbz | sanxiyn: yeah, obviously... actually I did it somehow in my own box (startup gaim iconified), but I'm using another machine and don't remember the trick |
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| 07:57.36 | nkuttler | yeah, like gaim is aim-only |
| 07:58.37 | sanxiyn | http://www.google.com/talk/ |
| 07:58.42 | Bwl | I believe one of my Debian boxes were compromised (wtmp, apache logs and other log files are missing). But I just don't understand how. All ports opened up for public is 80 and 443 (running apache). SSH is only opened up for 4 IP's. Is it possible to break in using Apache? |
| 07:58.50 | mwilson | Is Talk as broken as GMail is? |
| 07:58.57 | sanxiyn | mwilson: Well, it's beta. |
| 07:58.59 | mwilson | As broken as they've made Google Groups? |
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| 07:59.09 | bibe | sanxiyn : it seems there's no possibility to talk to other servers through googletalk |
| 07:59.23 | sanxiyn | mwilson: A jabber server, and clean but rather unimpressive client. |
| 07:59.29 | mwilson | It's a certainty that Google has zero clue about how to design a user interface. |
| 07:59.30 | nkuttler | Bwl: check the 4 other boxes too, and your webscripts |
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| 07:59.53 | Bwl | nkuttler: good idea, thanks |
| 07:59.59 | sanxiyn | bibe: Yes for now. Big point of Jabber is to decentralize servers... |
| 08:00.26 | Sacrag | helo |
| 08:00.34 | sanxiyn | "Mistrust authority -- promote decentralization." -- Steven Levy |
| 08:00.38 | nkuttler | Bwl: and your logrotate config if you messed with it |
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| 08:00.44 | Sacrag | hi |
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| 08:00.59 | defcon8 | how do i mount bin cue files? |
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| 08:01.19 | tarzeau | that's lies: 04:01 < abrotman> -_souIreaper- welcome to #debian. #debian is sponsored by the GNAA. Are you gay? Are you a nigger? Are you a GAY NIGGER? Then the GNAA might be just what you are |
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| 08:01.23 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.43 | defcon8 | anyone? |
| 08:01.44 | sanxiyn | mwilson: One good thing from GMail is its SMTP server, when some mail server is blocking mail from my server for whatever reason (like blocking whole Korea IP range, stupid) |
| 08:01.52 | helloyo | i am using the latest installer, but my net connection doesn't come up. same problem as ubuntu breezy, i believe its due to the module 8139cp being used instead of 8139too, could somebody please help? |
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| 08:02.21 | defcon8 | anyone? |
| 08:02.25 | sanxiyn | mwilson: Mails from GMail SMTP server mostly don't block. |
| 08:02.29 | nkuttler | defcon8: google.com |
| 08:02.34 | rvbz | sanxiyn, nice tip |
| 08:02.56 | nkuttler | helloyo: why don't you use the stable installer? |
| 08:02.56 | rvbz | sanxiyn, didn't know about the free SMTP service |
| 08:03.18 | mikeym | does anyone know if it is it possible to install and boot from debian if it's partition is after mac os x on a powermac g5? |
| 08:03.23 | sanxiyn | rvbz: smtp.gmail.com, supports TLS, mostly sane. |
| 08:03.27 | helloyo | nkuttler, i would, just i really want to try stuff in testing and in breezy, and both have the same problem, which probably isn't that major |
| 08:03.51 | nkuttler | mikeym: what does the yaboot documentation say? #debianppc as well |
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| 08:04.24 | nkuttler | helloyo: you know what a dist-upgrade is? |
| 08:04.48 | helloyo | nkuttler, yes, i installed with hoary, then dist upgraded, which brought the network problem with it |
| 08:04.49 | rvbz | so, no tips for making gaim start iconified under xfce4? |
| 08:04.58 | nkuttler | helloyo: #ubuntu |
| 08:05.05 | sanxiyn | rvbz: I don't have any. |
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| 08:05.31 | helloyo | nkuttler, yeah, i know, but i'm currently having the problem with debian, just saying the problem comes with the dist-upgrade |
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| 08:05.48 | sanxiyn | helloyo: #ubuntu may be more helpful. |
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| 08:06.01 | nkuttler | helloyo: you said you're having a problem with the _installer_ and now suddenly after an upgrade? huh? |
| 08:06.36 | helloyo | nkuttler, i tried the installer, didn't work, dist-upgraded, didn't work, then tried the installer again |
| 08:06.36 | kikinovak | Hi. I'm looking for a command to search for a text string (e.g. "alsa/asoundlib.h") in a bunch of files in a directory tree. Any ideas? |
| 08:07.15 | nkuttler | helloyo: how did you dist-upgrade if the installer "didn't work", how do you upgrade a not installed system? |
| 08:07.30 | nkuttler | kikinovak: grep |
| 08:07.42 | helloyo | nkuttler, i used an installer that worked, installed the base system, then dist-upgraded, which broke my internet connection |
| 08:08.03 | nkuttler | kikinovak: you seem confused... just run stable if you can't fix stuff |
| 08:08.36 | sanxiyn | kikinovak: grep -r 'alsa/asoundlib.h' . ? |
| 08:08.46 | sanxiyn | kikinovak: r is for --recursive. |
| 08:08.56 | nkuttler | kikinovak: oops, was not meant for you |
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| 08:09.22 | kikinovak | sanxiyn thanks |
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| 08:11.40 | defcon8 | does anyone know about cdemu on debian? |
| 08:11.49 | defcon8 | i cant ,install it normally asi dont have the sources for the debian kernel |
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| 08:12.16 | defcon8 | can anyone tell me how to get the sources for 2.6.11-1-686 |
| 08:12.20 | sanxiyn | defcon8: Get kernel source. |
| 08:12.26 | defcon8 | how |
| 08:12.29 | Fleck | lol |
| 08:13.02 | defcon8 | Fleck, if you areny gonna be helpful stfu |
| 08:13.33 | nkuttler | defcon8: cool down |
| 08:13.43 | nkuttler | defcon8: apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 08:13.45 | defcon8 | maybe someone could point me to something on dpkg on how to get sources for a certain debian package maybe just maybe? |
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| 08:13.48 | wols | !anyone |
| 08:13.48 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 08:14.01 | defcon8 | nkuttler, you think i havent looked at that? it only goes up to 2.6.8 i think |
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| 08:14.18 | nkuttler | defcon8: you think? where did you get your kernel-image from? |
| 08:14.37 | defcon8 | i really do not know |
| 08:14.42 | defcon8 | honestly |
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| 08:14.52 | nkuttler | defcon8: who installed the box? |
| 08:14.57 | Fleck | defcon8 maybe you need to run apt-get update ? |
| 08:15.21 | Fleck | and then try to search again |
| 08:15.50 | defcon8 | i did |
| 08:15.58 | defcon8 | naah it was the same before i did an updaet |
| 08:16.12 | nkuttler | defcon8: are you running testing or unstable? |
| 08:16.20 | defcon8 | kernel-image-2.6-386 <-- i installed that i thinkj |
| 08:16.23 | defcon8 | i am runnnig etch |
| 08:16.33 | Fleck | eatch? |
| 08:16.41 | nkuttler | !etch |
| 08:16.41 | dpkg | well, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 08:16.48 | Fleck | ok |
| 08:16.55 | Coke | obviously you haven't thought enough about it if you still only "think" you did this or that. |
| 08:16.58 | nkuttler | defcon8: go to packages.debian.org |
| 08:17.05 | Coke | think more and get back to us when you know. |
| 08:17.11 | Fleck | ;) |
| 08:17.31 | nkuttler | is it possible for a kernel-image to be in the repository without the according kernel-source package? |
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| 08:17.57 | hyperstream | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 08:18.00 | Dewi | nkuttler: anything's possible... if it happens! |
| 08:18.02 | hyperstream | i just installed xorg |
| 08:18.15 | hyperstream | shouldnt this be xorg instead of xfree96-DRI |
| 08:18.21 | defcon8 | will you just believe me please |
| 08:18.30 | nkuttler | Dewi: i just wonder if there's a policy for such things |
| 08:18.31 | defcon8 | i installed the debian kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 08:18.36 | defcon8 | and it came as 2.6.11 |
| 08:18.39 | defcon8 | ok? |
| 08:18.39 | nkuttler | defcon8: go to packages.debian.org |
| 08:19.33 | sanxiyn | defcon8: I guess your mirror is outdated then? |
| 08:19.50 | defcon8 | ok so what do you suggest i do? |
| 08:19.52 | hyperstream | any idea's |
| 08:19.55 | defcon8 | the latest kernel sources aer 2.6.8 |
| 08:19.56 | defcon8 | wtf? |
| 08:20.04 | nkuttler | defcon8: why don't you do what i say? |
| 08:20.12 | wobbler | defcon8: try here http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/kernel-source-2.6.11 |
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| 08:20.24 | defcon8 | but that is unstable. i am on testing |
| 08:20.28 | defcon8 | nkuttler, and then do what? |
| 08:20.39 | wobbler | its not in testing |
| 08:20.43 | nkuttler | defcon8: ... |
| 08:20.49 | nkuttler | defcon8: ok, downgrade your kernel |
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| 08:20.58 | nkuttler | defcon8: to something that _has_ sources |
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| 08:21.08 | defcon8 | yyeah well they should maek sources for everything |
| 08:21.09 | sanxiyn | defcon8: In testing, kernel-image-2.6-* points to 2.6.8, period. |
| 08:21.10 | Dewi | defcon8: why do you need source? |
| 08:21.18 | sanxiyn | Dewi: To compile some kernel module? |
| 08:21.19 | defcon8 | toinstall the cdemu module |
| 08:21.26 | usn | hi all |
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| 08:21.31 | Dewi | the source is on that page wobbler mentioned? |
| 08:21.36 | Dewi | there's a download link right there |
| 08:21.37 | sanxiyn | defcon8: Well, kernel is a bit special in that apt-get source doesn't do useful things. |
| 08:22.04 | hyperstream | defcon8, or perhaps you should consider unstable ? and get 2.6.12.5 source |
| 08:22.07 | hyperstream | compile it ... etc |
| 08:22.11 | hyperstream | works fine for me so far |
| 08:22.27 | nkuttler | hyperstream: nonono, don't tell him such things |
| 08:22.31 | defcon8 | naah thanks |
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| 08:22.34 | sanxiyn | Well, getting Kernel from unstable should be fine, as Kernel is separate from userland. |
| 08:22.47 | hyperstream | k :/ |
| 08:23.40 | hyperstream | hmm why dont i have a /etc/x11 directory |
| 08:23.46 | hyperstream | what uses this / creates it |
| 08:23.58 | nkuttler | hyperstream: because it's /etc/X11/ ? |
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| 08:24.33 | defcon8 | sanxiyn, how do i separate from useland? |
| 08:24.38 | sanxiyn | http://bugs.debian.org/237925 is about CDemu, but it seems there's no progress. |
| 08:24.39 | defcon8 | userland* |
| 08:24.44 | sanxiyn | defcon8: ... |
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| 08:24.50 | sanxiyn | defcon8: Get kernel source and compile module. |
| 08:24.52 | defcon8 | can you not ... please |
| 08:24.53 | defcon8 | ok |
| 08:24.55 | nkuttler | defcon8: just get the kernel-source package for unstable from packages.debian.org |
| 08:25.14 | defcon8 | yeah i am doing that now |
| 08:25.33 | defcon8 | ok what about this separating from userland crap? |
| 08:25.41 | hyperstream | nkuttler, it doesnt exist? |
| 08:25.50 | defcon8 | but this one is -7 my one is -1 |
| 08:25.54 | petykoo | is there any similar in dpkg/debian to the depclean function of gentoo/portage? |
| 08:26.01 | defcon8 | will it still work? |
| 08:26.05 | nkuttler | hyperstream: /msg dpkg faq, /msg dpkg set up x |
| 08:26.30 | nkuttler | defcon8: downgrade your kernel |
| 08:26.42 | defcon8 | can you answer my question though? |
| 08:26.44 | defcon8 | please |
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| 08:26.51 | temp489343 | How do I deinstall a package? |
| 08:27.03 | _daniel | i have problems compiling appletouch module |
| 08:27.07 | nkuttler | temp489343: man apt-get or dpkg or aptitude |
| 08:27.12 | hyperstream | nkuttler, ahh thats for xfree, ive just removed that and instaled xorg |
| 08:27.14 | temp489343 | dpkg? |
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| 08:27.29 | nkuttler | temp489343: type "man aptitude" in a terminal window |
| 08:27.32 | temp489343 | I searched the man page for "deinstall" and couldn't find anythingf |
| 08:27.41 | temp489343 | no matches |
| 08:27.48 | defcon8 | remoev? |
| 08:27.48 | hyperstream | yet my driver seems to be thinking im using xfree : Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" |
| 08:27.49 | defcon8 | remove* |
| 08:27.49 | nkuttler | temp489343: don't search the page, read it |
| 08:27.53 | temp489343 | can you please just tell me the cmd line option to deinstall |
| 08:27.57 | hyperstream | ive reconfigured the xserver too |
| 08:28.02 | defcon8 | temp489343, REMOVE |
| 08:28.08 | temp489343 | thanks |
| 08:28.21 | sanxiyn | temp489343: Well, do read the manual. |
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| 08:28.40 | nkuttler | sanxiyn: but reading is haaaard |
| 08:28.51 | defcon8 | sanxiyn, my kernel version is -1 and the package that was given to me is -7. anyhing i can do? |
| 08:29.04 | sanxiyn | defcon8: Get -7 kernel. |
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| 08:29.22 | nkuttler | defcon8: btw, why don't you run stable? no such problems there |
| 08:29.28 | sanxiyn | Well, it shouldn't matter, but I'd prefer to have running kernel and kernel source to compile module to be from same source. |
| 08:29.31 | defcon8 | i dont want old packages |
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| 08:30.06 | SJr|Tecra | Hey so php4-mcrypt is busted too? |
| 08:30.15 | hyperstream | nkuttler, ? |
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| 08:30.20 | nkuttler | SJr|Tecra: check bugs.debian.org? |
| 08:30.23 | nkuttler | hyperstream: ? |
| 08:30.29 | SJr|Tecra | nkuttler can't tell |
| 08:30.34 | TheStick | hello |
| 08:30.36 | hyperstream | yet my driver seems to be thinking im using xfree : Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" |
| 08:30.36 | bibe | hyperstream : did you reconfigure xserver with dpkg-reconfigure? are you sure XFConfig-4 has been modified? |
| 08:30.37 | hyperstream | ive reconfigured the xserver too |
| 08:30.43 | hyperstream | yes i did |
| 08:30.48 | SJr|Tecra | I can't make heads or tails of this bug report nkuttler it says its severe, and yes it is there |
| 08:30.53 | SJr|Tecra | however it says keyword fixed |
| 08:30.54 | hyperstream | bibe, there is no XFConfig-4 |
| 08:30.55 | SJr|Tecra | which I don't get |
| 08:31.03 | SJr|Tecra | since they say there should be a new package |
| 08:31.05 | SJr|Tecra | but there isn't. |
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| 08:31.21 | juxi | Hi |
| 08:31.22 | hyperstream | ive updatedb and tried locating it |
| 08:31.23 | hyperstream | nothing |
| 08:31.32 | nkuttler | SJr|Tecra: your mirror may not have it yet |
| 08:31.42 | nkuttler | SJr|Tecra: go to packages.debian.org |
| 08:31.44 | SJr|Tecra | nkuttler actually I got it thanks |
| 08:31.44 | SJr|Tecra | :) |
| 08:31.51 | SJr|Tecra | alls it took was an apt-get update |
| 08:31.56 | SJr|Tecra | and the new package wokrs. |
| 08:32.06 | juxi | Hi are here germans? |
| 08:32.08 | sanxiyn | SJr|Tecra: "fixed" means fixed. |
| 08:32.11 | nkuttler | !de |
| 08:32.11 | dpkg | methinks de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
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| 08:32.34 | bibe | hyperstream : /etc/X11/XFConfig-4. or are you using X.org? |
| 08:32.34 | sanxiyn | SJr|Tecra: It just means it's fixed by person other than the maintainer. Not much to care about. |
| 08:32.38 | juxi | OK thanks! |
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| 08:32.51 | defcon8 | damn i cant be fucked with this anymore |
| 08:32.59 | defcon8 | is there any other way to mount bin files? |
| 08:33.00 | bibe | hyperstream : sorry, XF86Config-4 |
| 08:33.05 | sanxiyn | defcon8: bchunk. |
| 08:33.19 | defcon8 | thanks |
| 08:33.20 | sanxiyn | defcon8: Convert it to .iso by bchunk, and do loopback mount. |
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| 08:33.29 | defcon8 | yeah i read |
| 08:33.31 | defcon8 | thanks alot man |
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| 08:34.04 | Fleck | better compile kernel by yourself and all will be fine - no problems :) |
| 08:34.19 | defcon8 | yeah im gonan get the kernel sources myself aswell |
| 08:34.32 | hyperstream | !dpkg nvidia |
| 08:34.32 | defcon8 | will debian work if i just go and get the kernel myself? |
| 08:34.32 | dpkg | methinks nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 08:34.41 | nkuttler | defcon8: sure |
| 08:34.46 | hyperstream | !dpkg nvidia-howto |
| 08:34.46 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia-howto was http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html for complete instructions for installing the NVIDIA DRI drivers "The Debian Way" on Sarge or Etch. Warning : follow the instructions with some care. in particular, if you don't know better, set NVDIST=stable instead of testing or unstable |
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| 08:34.49 | defcon8 | it wont fex up will it? |
| 08:35.05 | sep | !nvidia one liner |
| 08:35.05 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 08:35.18 | sep | never failed for me on over 14 installs |
| 08:35.34 | hyperstream | thanks man |
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| 08:35.52 | hyperstream | sep thats for xorg also? |
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| 08:36.04 | debugger | morninh |
| 08:36.04 | sanxiyn | hyperstream: Not sure about that... |
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| 08:36.23 | sep | hyperstream, i run sarge so no xorg, but the only thing that would differ is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 08:36.32 | sep | hyperstream, now you have opportunity to test :) |
| 08:36.34 | hyperstream | ahh yup thanks alot |
| 08:36.38 | hyperstream | yah |
| 08:36.38 | hyperstream | brb |
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| 08:38.57 | hyperstream | worked gonna restart x now |
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| 08:44.30 | BriajWrk | the package kdelibs4c2 is a release candidate of the package kdelibs4? |
| 08:45.02 | streuner | release candidate is rc |
| 08:45.07 | streuner | ask #debian-kde |
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| 08:45.40 | BriajWrk | thank you streuner :) |
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| 08:47.53 | MaxPower | how do I delete a folder in the command line please? |
| 08:48.24 | Phated | MaxPower: man rm. |
| 08:48.29 | jaaro | Hi there. Is there any simple way how can I detect which of the installed packages come from stable/testing/unstable branch? |
| 08:48.57 | streuner | jaaro: look for option 'policy' |
| 08:49.10 | MaxPower | Phated, i did that but rm looks like it only does files |
| 08:49.37 | nkuttler | MaxPower: read the complete manpage, or man rmdir as well |
| 08:49.42 | streuner | jaaro: apt-cache policy <package> |
| 08:49.49 | Phated | MaxPower: Not reading well, then, are you. rm -r <dir> will remove a directory and everything in it. |
| 08:49.57 | MaxPower | rmdir, thats the one.. thanks |
| 08:50.14 | MaxPower | Phated, thanks |
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| 08:51.49 | Daveman | is there any particular place, which is more preferable to build a deb package (for any given user)? |
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| 08:52.30 | nkuttler | Daveman: no |
| 08:52.57 | defcon8 | ok bchunk is working but when i mount the first iso which is like really really small the whole dirs and everyhing shows up but no files work and when i mount the second it says its an unknown file system |
| 08:52.59 | defcon8 | what to do? |
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| 08:54.07 | defcon8 | anyone? |
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| 08:56.21 | defcon8 | can anyone please help? |
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| 08:57.05 | mypapit | u are the scuk |
| 08:57.07 | zOap | How can I mount a device connected through usb? |
| 08:57.11 | defcon8 | damn |
| 08:57.23 | nkuttler | zOap: look at the dmesg output |
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| 08:58.11 | zOap | nkuttler, SHell File System (c) 2002-2004 Miroslav Spousta it says... |
| 08:58.29 | defcon8 | nkuttler, you know what i can do |
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| 08:58.50 | defcon8 | also i try to look at the second iso in mc and it says cdrom is not iso9660 file system |
| 08:58.54 | nkuttler | zOap: no device? like /dev/sda1? |
| 08:59.01 | defcon8 | but it mounts the first one but i thnik it is 0 bytes. i dont know how this works though |
| 08:59.02 | zOap | nkuttler, nope |
| 08:59.12 | nkuttler | zOap: built your own kernel? |
| 08:59.21 | defcon8 | no sorry it is 608k |
| 08:59.24 | zOap | nkuttler, no, 2.4.27 |
| 08:59.46 | cjavad | where i can found old debian *.diff.gz?? |
| 08:59.56 | nkuttler | cjavad: /msg dpkg snapshot |
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| 09:00.34 | streuner | cjavad: /msg apt sdn |
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| 09:01.28 | Displacer | can anybody hehp with the mount cdrom problem |
| 09:01.53 | Displacer | every sarge boot /medea/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 dirs are deleted |
| 09:01.55 | BriajWrk | what does the packages that end 'c2' mean please? |
| 09:02.24 | streuner | BriajWrk: did you ask in #debian-kde? |
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| 09:02.40 | BriajWrk | streuner, in #debian-kde don't support sid :( |
| 09:03.00 | streuner | BriajWrk: read its changelog, might be some info there... |
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| 09:03.25 | Displacer | i have to create /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 by myself |
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| 09:03.34 | BriajWrk | thank you streuner |
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| 09:06.11 | spower | why i can't ping with more than 65500 as root? |
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| 09:06.50 | nkuttler | spower: 65500 what? |
| 09:07.01 | Gathond | spower: limitation in the packet size you can send as one package |
| 09:07.07 | spower | nkuttler, bytes |
| 09:07.10 | BriajWrk | does anyone know a cd burning tool like k3b that supports "ide atapi"? i have try "graveman" but it doesn't add the juliet extension well |
| 09:07.15 | spower | Gathond, yes why's that |
| 09:07.29 | spower | but as root you should have the possibility to send as much as u need |
| 09:07.35 | Gathond | spower: because thats how TCP/IP works :) |
| 09:07.37 | sep | spoopin, perhaps becoues Maximum is the theoretical maximum IP datagram size (64K) |
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| 09:07.44 | Gathond | spower: or, no that is how IP works |
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| 09:07.50 | sep | spoopin, sorry that was for spower |
| 09:07.52 | oskyldig | hi to all |
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| 09:08.22 | oskyldig | did anybody experience some problems with evolution after upgrading his packages? |
| 09:08.23 | Gathond | spower: you cant on the internet send anything larger thatn 64K in one IP packet, TCP acts as a layer to hide that fact, but ping does not use TCP bue IP datagrams |
| 09:08.24 | spower | then how would I send more than 64ko? |
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| 09:08.47 | Gathond | spower: as a ping packet you would not, as actual data, easy, send more than one 64K chunk :) |
| 09:08.51 | SJr|Tecra | Hmmm |
| 09:09.10 | SJr|Tecra | Okay interesting problem |
| 09:09.24 | SJr|Tecra | Besides dmesg, message, and syslog. Where else can I look to see why my system hung? |
| 09:09.34 | spower | Gathond, what about raw sockets? |
| 09:09.41 | spower | would they allow me to send more than 64K chunk |
| 09:09.55 | Knorrie | SJr|Tecra: why are you pinging me |
| 09:10.07 | sep | spower, using nc perhaps |
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| 09:10.18 | SJr|Tecra | Knorrie my firewall just crashed |
| 09:10.24 | spower | sep, netcat, what for? |
| 09:10.26 | SJr|Tecra | wondering if I was still connected to server |
| 09:10.33 | Gathond | spower: not over the IP protocol I think, you would need to use something that uses TCP (or implements its own transport protocol) |
| 09:10.46 | streuner | BriajWrk: mkisofs -R -J /tmp/foo | cdrecord -v driveropts=burnfree dev=0,0,0 - |
| 09:11.05 | sep | spower, you can time cat data across nc, on the remote end nc | nc back to you to simulate a ping larger then 64K |
| 09:11.06 | Knorrie | SJr|Tecra: well, here i am, talking to you :D so i think it works again |
| 09:11.30 | oskyldig | did anybody experience some problems with evolution after upgrading his packages? My friends evolution just aborts before starting the gui |
| 09:11.49 | nkuttler | oskyldig: and there are no error messages? |
| 09:12.18 | Knorrie | SJr|Tecra: but anyway, if the system hung at sudden, there may be no log messages |
| 09:12.18 | oskyldig | just that evolution has been aborted and that he could message the devolpers :) |
| 09:12.22 | bibe | oskyldig : evolution from testing? the same happened to me a week after sarge release (i was on testing) |
| 09:12.30 | sep | spower, altho the more interesting question would be, what you think you would learn from pinging with more then 64k data ? |
| 09:12.36 | oskyldig | bibe, yes, he is on testing |
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| 09:12.48 | spower | sep, i'm testing my network .. |
| 09:13.02 | shadowcat | don't run Evolution from testing |
| 09:13.10 | shadowcat | either run it from sarge or go to unstable |
| 09:13.24 | shadowcat | evolution in testing has been broken for quite some time |
| 09:13.42 | bibe | oskyldig : evolution from testing is a 2.2, while sarge uses a 2.0, right? |
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| 09:14.14 | oskyldig | bibe, I guess thats right |
| 09:14.15 | sep | spower, yes.. but why ping >64k ? run a ftp session or something if you want to test large amaunts of data. |
| 09:14.58 | oskyldig | bibe, how did you solve that problem? |
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| 09:15.16 | litage | how do you prevent OOo from converting "Aug 29" to 08/28/05? |
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| 09:15.43 | jimm | litage: don't invoke it? |
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| 09:16.12 | sep | !tell spower about msg |
| 09:16.13 | BriajWrk | thank you very much streuner |
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| 09:17.08 | bibe | oskyldig : from 'apt-policy cache evolution', sarge ships a 2.0.4, testing is 2.2.2 and unstable is 2.2.3. I suggest your friend to try 2.2.3 from unstable (if it won't upgrade many packages, as I think), or stick back to 2.0.4 (I use that, but on sarge) |
| 09:17.28 | shadowcat | bibe: yes it will |
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| 09:17.39 | shadowcat | upgrading to 2.2.3 will upgrade gnome |
| 09:17.43 | litage | jimm: i hit undo to revert back to "Aug 29", but when i move the cursor, OOo changes it again |
| 09:18.27 | bibe | shadowcat : from 2.2.2? |
| 09:18.41 | spower | are there any tools that allow you to send more 64KB of data at once? |
| 09:18.43 | sep | litage, is it ok to have Aug 29 as text ? ie your not doing calcuations on it ? |
| 09:18.53 | sep | litage, if ys type 'Aug 29 |
| 09:19.01 | bibe | shadowcat : I mean, upgrading from 2.2.2 to 2.2.3 will upgrade the whole gnome? |
| 09:19.12 | litage | sep: this is in Writer though, not calc |
| 09:19.19 | cyrix^ | am i the only one who have problems with mysqld at the moment ? It can't find mysqld.sock :( |
| 09:19.25 | shadowcat | bibe: 2.2.3 requires libs that conflict with the gnome in stable/testing |
| 09:19.29 | sep | litage, sorry |
| 09:19.36 | shadowcat | or rather, I should say |
| 09:19.40 | shadowcat | are too new for them |
| 09:19.42 | litage | sep: np! |
| 09:19.48 | shadowcat | so it has to pull in gnome from unstable |
| 09:19.58 | shadowcat | and I have no idea of how broken that is at the moment |
| 09:20.07 | oskyldig | shadowcat, does the old version conflict with the current gnome? |
| 09:20.20 | shadowcat | 2.0.4 doesn't |
| 09:20.22 | shadowcat | 2.2.3 WILL |
| 09:20.28 | bibe | shadowcat : ok. so i would suggest oskyldig to stick back to 2.0, I did it and I did not have any problem with old mail folders |
| 09:20.36 | oskyldig | ok, so downgrading is probably the best solution? |
| 09:20.41 | shadowcat | yes |
| 09:20.48 | bibe | oskyldig : I think so |
| 09:20.54 | shadowcat | the only gnome app I use is Evolution |
| 09:21.01 | shadowcat | so I don't know how broken the rest of it is |
| 09:21.13 | oskyldig | so deinstalling the current package and installing the old one via hand is the right procedure? |
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| 09:21.45 | debugger | how do you guys update a debian system? a cron job that apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? anything more fancy? |
| 09:21.45 | sep | litage, is that a inserted data or just text ? i only get 08/28/05 if i insert a date, and you can alter the format by dobbleclicking the date field. as regular text it dont switch it. |
| 09:22.07 | sep | s/data/date/ |
| 09:22.14 | litage | sep: sorry, this is inside a table cell |
| 09:22.23 | litage | sep: i had to turn off number recognition in Tools -> Options -> Text Document -> Table |
| 09:22.39 | sep | debugger, i read the announce list, when there are advisories i ssh into my boxes and update/upgrade |
| 09:22.46 | sep | litage, k |
| 09:22.47 | bibe | oskyldig : yes, I did so |
| 09:22.59 | debugger | sep, you do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade by hand? |
| 09:23.00 | nkuttler | debugger: there's cron-apt or apt-cron |
| 09:23.03 | rob^ | hi |
| 09:23.04 | bibe | oskyldig : not via hand, sorry |
| 09:23.19 | sep | debugger, yes, but this is critical systems. |
| 09:23.20 | debugger | nkuttler, ah, going to check that out. thx. |
| 09:23.38 | nkuttler | debugger: only use it for security fixes, nothing else |
| 09:23.54 | debugger | sep, I also think one should update by hand. just in case something goes fubar hehe |
| 09:23.58 | oskyldig | bibe, downgrading to stable would be too hard for him |
| 09:24.04 | sep | debugger, i guess i could cron a noncritical box, |
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| 09:24.11 | sep | but i dont |
| 09:25.22 | bibe | oskyldig : I don't know if there would be problems with libraries, downgrading from a 2.2 to a 2.0 should require library changes |
| 09:25.38 | oskyldig | I hope not |
| 09:26.01 | debugger | sep, ok. thx (: |
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| 09:26.33 | debugger | nkuttler, I can only find a "cron-apt" package; are there two of them? |
| 09:26.48 | nkuttler | debugger: no, i wasn't sure about the spelling |
| 09:27.07 | debugger | nkuttler, ah ok. thx (: |
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| 09:27.57 | bibe | oskyldig : I just apt-get removed evolution and evolution-data from a unstable installation, then installed evolution and evolution-data manually. it worked |
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| 09:28.22 | oskyldig | bibe, exactly that is what we would like to try now |
| 09:28.30 | bibe | s/manually/packages from stable manually/ |
| 09:28.41 | oskyldig | do you think it is neccessary to remove evolution-data as well? |
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| 09:29.02 | bibe | oskyldig : sorry, evolution-data-server |
| 09:29.14 | oskyldig | do you think it's neccessary? |
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| 09:30.32 | dimir | Morning. |
| 09:30.45 | oskyldig | mornin |
| 09:31.18 | bibe | oskyldig : I would do it, but I just could upgrade evolution-data-server without upgrading evolution itself. So you can try |
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| 09:31.43 | oskyldig | ok |
| 09:32.20 | oskyldig | chmol, are you there ? read that? |
| 09:32.21 | tombs | hi ppl |
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| 09:37.15 | ircdevil | script fu to substitute white-space with underscore in filenames? |
| 09:37.36 | mooded | umm, anybody knows a good tool for concatenating / editing pdf-documents ? |
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| 09:38.58 | bibe | ircdevil : use sed to produce a shell script that will do the task, then execute it |
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| 09:39.14 | cahoot | ircdevil: tr ' ' '_' |
| 09:40.07 | bibe | cahoot : right, tr is the solution, but ircdevil wants to change filenames, not the content |
| 09:40.32 | Gathond | ircdevil: use perls rename util |
| 09:40.41 | ircdevil | surely there must be some simple way using bash? |
| 09:41.05 | ircdevil | Gathond: will do - if there is not a more simple way :o) |
| 09:41.08 | jm_ | it's much simpler using rename or mmv |
| 09:41.21 | jm_ | of course you can do it with bash+sed/tr/whatever too |
| 09:41.38 | Gathond | ircdevil: rename s/\ /_/g * is there much simpler? |
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| 09:42.13 | ircdevil | Gathond: and to apply it to a list of files? |
| 09:42.17 | Gathond | not 100% sude "\ " does not need to be escaped from the shell too |
| 09:42.27 | Gathond | ircdevil: the * bit would select all files |
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| 09:42.43 | ircdevil | lemme test |
| 09:42.53 | bibe | ircdevil : rename 's/ /_/g' * |
| 09:42.57 | Gathond | ircdevil: can of cause be replaced with a filelist ffom somewhere |
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| 09:44.05 | ircdevil | bibe: thanks :o) |
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| 09:45.16 | bibe | ircdevil : thanks to Gathond |
| 09:45.22 | oskyldig | bibe, what is the g in the end for ? |
| 09:45.32 | Gathond | oskyldig: global on the line |
| 09:45.37 | tralala | oskyldig: man sed |
| 09:45.41 | bibe | oskyldig : to substitute all occurrences, not the first only |
| 09:45.44 | Gathond | oskyldig: otherwise it only replaces one match |
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| 09:45.47 | jm_ | actually man perlop ;) |
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| 09:46.52 | oskyldig | btw, is there any docu on that kind of expressions? |
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| 09:47.20 | tralala | you've just been pointed to two places |
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| 09:47.42 | tralala | jm_: the same in this case |
| 09:48.19 | jaaro | Hi there. Is there any simple way how can I detect which of the installed packages come from stable/testing/unstable branch? (I've asked before but went away) |
| 09:48.35 | bibe | jaaro : apt-cache policy |
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| 09:48.55 | defcon8 | can anyone help me please? i have been using bcunk to convert a bin cue dvd to isos and it made 2 isos. the first iso is 680k and it opens fine and you see all the dirs and files but you cant open the files and the second one is the actual big one but oyu cant openit atall. any ideas? |
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| 09:52.28 | defcon8 | noone? |
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| 09:55.43 | tralala | defcon8: is this actually a debian question? |
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| 09:56.31 | urquidez | anyone have an opinion how much ram would be required for this vmware config; HOST: Debian, Vm0: FreeBSD, Vm1: FreeBSD, Vm2: Debian, Vm3: Windows 2003 Server |
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| 09:57.22 | tralala | !sing sunday |
| 09:57.22 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 09:57.34 | cplx | !sing monday |
| 09:57.35 | dpkg | And school's out early and soon we'll be learning / The lesson today is how to die |
| 09:57.44 | cplx | hokay |
| 09:58.02 | zOap | mount /dev/sda /mnt/sda gives me: specify filesystem type. It's a ntfs, what should I type? |
| 09:58.19 | defcon8 | tralala, define debian question. i am running this on debian |
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| 09:59.05 | tralala | zOap: maybe you want something like sda1? |
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| 09:59.18 | zOap | tralala, hmm, maybe |
| 09:59.30 | tralala | zOap: fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 09:59.38 | zOap | thnx |
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| 10:00.16 | daxxar | Hm. Anyone have experience with exim4 stalling for multiple seconds (it might be up to 1 minute) when a host it relays for is trying to send an email? |
| 10:00.17 | defcon8 | damn |
| 10:00.27 | defcon8 | doesnt anyone convert bin cues to isos atall? |
| 10:00.35 | daxxar | I.e. it stalls the whole SMTP-connection, so my client is waiting for the smtp to accept the mail. |
| 10:01.36 | daxxar | http://he.fi/bchunk/ |
| 10:01.37 | sep | daxxar, sounds like some dns resolve timing out |
| 10:01.39 | daxxar | Try using google. |
| 10:01.43 | daxxar | (defcon8) |
| 10:01.59 | daxxar | sep, yeah, so did I, because I got this in my exim4/mainlog: 2005-08-26 11:57:38 no host name found for IP address 192.168.0.5 |
| 10:02.01 | defcon8 | i do use google |
| 10:02.08 | defcon8 | i use google and it tells me how to use bchunk |
| 10:02.21 | defcon8 | it doesnt tell me why the fuck this vcd isnt covnerting properly |
| 10:02.25 | daxxar | Oh, ok. |
| 10:02.37 | daxxar | I didn't see you saying anything about bchunk. |
| 10:02.42 | daxxar | Perhaps I joined after you said it. |
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| 10:03.01 | daxxar | sep, so I added a hostname in /etc/hosts, just a simple one (semi-sane), and now it doesn't give that message, but it still stalls.. |
| 10:03.20 | zOap | how can I write to a ntfs filesystem? |
| 10:04.09 | TraceGreen | you may try to use captive |
| 10:04.36 | TraceGreen | zOap, as i know, you may compile captive module to your kernel. |
| 10:04.40 | tralala | zOap: no, unless you're willing to accept the risk of damaging it or unless it has windows installed |
| 10:04.57 | daxxar | Hmm. |
| 10:04.59 | zOap | ok, thnx:) I'll just avoid it... |
| 10:06.26 | daxxar | Aah. |
| 10:06.28 | daxxar | <3 strace <3 |
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| 10:06.34 | m3G4crux | hi |
| 10:06.39 | daxxar | sep, it's waiting for identd response. ;) |
| 10:06.58 | defcon8 | whoah wtf |
| 10:07.05 | defcon8 | it acutally works when i play the bin file. rofl |
| 10:07.10 | defcon8 | sorted |
| 10:07.12 | defcon8 | :D |
| 10:07.30 | petemc | daxxar: thats usually ident, exim -bP |grep rfc1413 |
| 10:07.34 | petemc | gah |
| 10:07.45 | daxxar | petemc, thanks, but I figured it out. :) |
| 10:07.50 | petemc | daxxar: yeah |
| 10:07.57 | petemc | daxxar: rfc1413_query_timeout = 0s is how to fix |
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| 10:08.07 | daxxar | Silly, Windows Firewall does the equivilant of iptables DROP, not REJECT. :P |
| 10:08.18 | daxxar | petemc, I'll just open the ident port. Why does it request ident? |
| 10:08.35 | petemc | daxxar: why wouldnt it? |
| 10:08.43 | daxxar | What does it do with it? |
| 10:08.48 | petemc | daxxar: logs it |
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| 10:09.01 | daxxar | Aha, okay. Thanks. :) |
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| 10:13.39 | skate | weeeeeeeeeee |
| 10:14.33 | m3G4crux | has anyone installed SER successfully? |
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| 10:16.13 | tralala | m3G4crux: explain what are you trying to do and what errors do you get |
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| 10:16.50 | m3G4crux | rgr, ok I commented out this in the ser.cfg |
| 10:17.02 | concept10 | where should I install CGI files? where is the default bin on sarge? is it usr/lib/cgi-bin ?? |
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| 10:17.40 | m3G4crux | modparam("auth_db", "calculate_ha1", yes) |
| 10:17.43 | jm_ | concept10: check your httpd config file |
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| 10:18.10 | m3G4crux | and some others which r directly in the configuration files but commented, all suppossed to be related to authentication |
| 10:18.23 | m3G4crux | however when I run ser start, I get this |
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| 10:18.52 | m3G4crux | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.52 | m3G4crux | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.52 | m3G4crux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:19.04 | xushi | lo all |
| 10:19.07 | xushi | any moderators here ? |
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| 10:19.28 | tralala | !tell m3G4crux -about paster |
| 10:19.51 | m3G4crux | sorry ppl |
| 10:20.03 | m3G4crux | I dont use IRC that much anymore |
| 10:20.05 | m3G4crux | :p |
| 10:20.21 | Fleck | m3G4crux what do you use? ;) |
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| 10:20.48 | tralala | ser, obviously |
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| 10:20.57 | Rawplayer | ih |
| 10:20.59 | Rawplayer | hi |
| 10:21.03 | k-man_ | how do i test if my joystick is working? |
| 10:21.26 | m3G4crux | ok lets see (I had a phone call) |
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| 10:21.40 | jm_ | read joystick.txt |
| 10:22.52 | k-man_ | jm_, thanks |
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| 10:24.07 | m3G4crux | I commented out this line "modparam("auth", "password_column", "password")", and ser says it does not understand it |
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| 10:25.01 | m3G4crux | just like this shows "parse error (65,20-21): Can't set module parameter" which corresponds to that line in the configuration file |
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| 10:26.11 | trooper00 | dhclient keeps trying to bring up all of the interfaces resulting in a lot of syslog spam. where can i change this behavior? |
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| 10:26.39 | Honeyman | Hello all! Can someone tell, where to get the information, what optimization options were used for a particular package on particular arch, and/or maybe what's current Debian policy regarding optimization flags? |
| 10:27.01 | m3G4crux | hmmm looks like when I tried to follow one of these howtos I changed auth_db 4 auth, and thats why it was getting it wrong |
| 10:27.43 | Anders | !tell natalia about debian-br |
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| 10:28.15 | concept10 | what is apache2's httpd.conf ? is it apache2.conf? |
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| 10:29.23 | MaxPower | hey, there if theres a directory full of files which are locked by root and ur logged in as root, how can you unlock these files for another user please? |
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| 10:29.38 | MaxPower | for editing etc..? |
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| 10:30.03 | bibe | MaxPower : man chown, chgrp, chmod |
| 10:30.11 | MaxPower | thanks |
| 10:30.20 | bibe | MaxPower : no problem |
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| 10:31.03 | kelmo | is there someone pretty knowledgable about svn-buildpackage? |
| 10:31.38 | sep | trooper00, interfaces file |
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| 10:33.04 | kelmo | i'm looking for some advice on disabling the automatic update of the control file when doing the final tag and build with svn-buildpackage |
| 10:33.16 | kelmo | err s/control/changelog |
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| 10:33.42 | antgel | i asked dpkg about vnc. she says tightvnc is optimized for low-bandwidth connections. does this mean that over a 256k connection i'm better off with realvnc, or doesn't it really matter? (i'm not a vnc power user, just admin a winshit machine) |
| 10:33.47 | sep | Honeyman, look in the source package for the package in question (i think) |
| 10:34.25 | sep | antgel, tightvnc is good nomather what, |
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| 10:34.44 | sep | antgel, you might also consider rdesktop, |
| 10:35.02 | antgel | sep: fair enough. i just also discovered x11vnc. where has this been all my life? :) |
| 10:35.23 | trooper00 | sep: only eth0 is defined in /etc/network/interfaces .. should the others be listed? i want them inactive |
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| 10:35.44 | yang | My mozilla gives me strange sound on flash applications, i get more noise than sound |
| 10:35.48 | sep | trooper00, if theyr not in the interfaces auto line, they should not be enabled during boot actualy |
| 10:36.03 | sep | trooper00, man interfaces |
| 10:36.10 | antgel | sep: yeah, i have used rdesktop in the past on another machine. i never really thought of using it in this case as the customer already had vnc on the server. is there much practical difference between the two for simple admin? |
| 10:36.39 | sep | antgel, saves you from installing vnc on the server. |
| 10:36.49 | trooper00 | reading.. every 5 mins dhclient logs a screen full of text. :\ |
| 10:36.53 | sep | antgel, and saves you from maintaining multiple user/password lists |
| 10:38.08 | antgel | sep: i hear ya, i'm gonna do that and get rid of vnc |
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| 10:38.38 | petemc | antgel: theres also freenx |
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| 10:39.04 | m3G4crux | tralala, seems I got it working. Thanks for your attention |
| 10:39.15 | HmJ | named[16528]: transfer of 'dt.lt/IN' from 84.32.38.10#53: failed while receiving responses: end of file ? |
| 10:39.18 | HmJ | what does it mean? |
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| 10:42.34 | phretor | hi there |
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| 10:43.32 | phretor | I've an installed and up to date debian system. I'd like to go back at the point just after the installation of the first CD. Is it possible to go back to that system state? |
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| 10:43.56 | phretor | I'm sorry if my question is not so clear, I hope I'll get the idea. |
| 10:44.02 | Guerin | phretor: they call it 'reinstalling' |
| 10:44.08 | caphuso | phretor: did you make a backup at that point? |
| 10:44.08 | HmJ | Guerin no |
| 10:44.15 | phretor | Guerin: don't want to reinstall |
| 10:44.20 | Guerin | HmJ: yes |
| 10:44.57 | HmJ | phretor base-config |
| 10:45.10 | phretor | HmJ: gonna read about it, thanks |
| 10:45.27 | caphuso | base-config won't do it |
| 10:45.29 | Guerin | um, base-config won't magically uninstall all the packages he's installed since, |
| 10:45.39 | Guerin | or do anything else important, really. |
| 10:45.47 | caphuso | it won't mess with config files either |
| 10:46.03 | caphuso | it basically will not do anything useful |
| 10:46.04 | phretor | Guerin, caphuso: give me your opinions |
| 10:46.06 | HmJ | i think this is what he wants |
| 10:46.24 | caphuso | phretor: we both did |
| 10:46.32 | Guerin | phretor: reinstall, or if you want to repeat this infinitely, use fai |
| 10:46.33 | phretor | HmJ: what will it do while performed? |
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| 10:46.38 | caphuso | restore backup or reinstall |
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| 10:47.06 | HmJ | phretor you'll get the same menu like at the first boot |
| 10:47.39 | phretor | HmJ: don't want to reconfigure my system |
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| 10:47.46 | phretor | HmJ: I just want a clean system |
| 10:47.57 | phretor | HmJ: but don't want to reinstall |
| 10:48.02 | HmJ | oh, so they're right u cant do anything :) |
| 10:48.37 | DoubleHP | hello; after installing GPM, it seems like I can not copy stuff in console 1, and past it in the 2nd one; how to revert to the old style 2y ago when the buffer was common for all consoles ? |
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| 10:49.24 | jm_ | DoubleHP: it still works that way |
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| 10:50.12 | DoubleHP | jm_: not since I installed SID at last Xmas and yesterday ... |
| 10:50.21 | jm_ | DoubleHP: ahh sid, I use Sarge |
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| 10:51.04 | phretor | caphuso: for example, I'd like to remove all unused script into /etc or something like that |
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| 10:52.06 | jm_ | DoubleHP: changelog doesn't show anything significant |
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| 10:52.54 | caphuso | phretor: define unused |
| 10:53.39 | phretor | caphuso: no more require |
| 10:53.40 | phretor | d |
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| 10:54.23 | caphuso | phretor: why do you think some of the "scripts" aren't required anymore? |
| 10:54.42 | phretor | caphuso: since I removed the app |
| 10:54.52 | liable | hmm, netsplit today? not many in channel.. |
| 10:55.00 | phretor | caphuso: but that's a secondary issue |
| 10:55.12 | caphuso | phretor: dpkg --purge packagename |
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| 10:55.28 | phretor | caphuso: and could I purge all packages? |
| 10:55.36 | phretor | --purge-all? |
| 10:55.38 | Guerin | phretor: COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l |awk '/^rc/ {print $2}' |xargs dpkg -P |
| 10:56.15 | Guerin | phretor: how would it know which packages to purge unless you tell it? |
| 10:56.26 | Guerin | debian, while wonderful, is not magic |
| 10:56.53 | phretor | Guerin: how about embedding something like your script into dpkg logic? :-) |
| 10:57.14 | Guerin | phretor: why? if you wanted it purged at the time you ought to have purged it |
| 10:57.38 | caphuso | there are also deborphan and debfoster |
| 10:57.42 | Guerin | and that one-liner isn't exactly rocket science, and should be well within the grasp of anyone who has responsibility for a unix box |
| 10:58.03 | caphuso | Guerin: dream on... |
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| 10:58.14 | Guerin | caphuso: heh |
| 10:58.28 | Guerin | don't should on me and I won't should on you :) |
| 10:58.28 | phretor | caphuso: I already use deborphan |
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| 10:59.36 | phretor | caphuso: debfoster seems nice |
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| 11:04.43 | debugger | nkuttler, the "cron-apt" package is quite nice. it will update your package tree, and will notify you when something needs to be updated. then, you can upgrade the system manually. this is really what I was looking for :) |
| 11:04.51 | turb | is there a recovery console in debian? i can't boot |
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| 11:05.01 | liable | the installer |
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| 11:05.05 | turb | how? |
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| 11:06.21 | Guerin | turb: 'can't boot' mwans what? |
| 11:06.24 | liable | boot it.. change to tty2 after hardware detection, or go to the bottom of the menu for a shell |
| 11:06.42 | turb | i get "kernel panic! tried to kill init" |
| 11:06.44 | Guerin | turb: can't boot ANY kernel, can't get past bios, can't get grub ...? |
| 11:06.59 | turb | i changed the hd's order.. |
| 11:07.08 | Guerin | turb: change it back |
| 11:07.17 | turb | can't.. threw some away |
| 11:07.32 | turb | i just need to run the grub wizard |
| 11:07.34 | liable | well, fix grub.. |
| 11:07.52 | turb | how..? no linux |
| 11:07.53 | nkuttler | grub wizard? |
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| 11:08.06 | turb | nkuttler, like in the setup process |
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| 11:08.25 | nkuttler | turb: boot the installer cd, hit f1, find the rescue mode |
| 11:08.39 | turb | is there such a mode? didn't find it.. |
| 11:08.42 | hyperstream | im trying to upgrade gnome from stable '64' sarge to the latest unstable. but it cant since it has to remove like gnome-desktop-enviroment |
| 11:08.43 | Guerin | there is no grub wizard in the installer |
| 11:08.46 | nkuttler | turb: hm, grub does start? |
| 11:08.46 | hyperstream | how can i fix this? |
| 11:08.55 | turb | grub starts.. |
| 11:09.03 | nkuttler | turb: grub has a shell mode, use that |
| 11:09.14 | Guerin | turb: in grub, hit 'e' and edit the line to tell it where / and so on all are |
| 11:09.14 | nkuttler | hyperstream: use stable? |
| 11:09.21 | hyperstream | i prefer not to |
| 11:09.32 | liable | well work it out then. |
| 11:09.33 | Guerin | hyperstream: you're better off without gnome anyway |
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| 11:09.40 | hyperstream | i am? |
| 11:09.41 | skate | uh, you can't really just upgrade gnome, can you |
| 11:09.53 | turb | Guerin thanks.. reboot to try |
| 11:09.56 | skate | i thought it was a bad idea to run stable and testing/unstable on the same system |
| 11:10.03 | Guerin | hyperstream: this is the sort of elementary thing that anyone using unstable should be able to deal with. If you can't, you oughtn't be using sid. |
| 11:10.08 | Guerin | skate: it is. |
| 11:10.14 | skate | ok then |
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| 11:10.20 | skate | why is he only upgrading gnome |
| 11:10.27 | megabit | hi |
| 11:10.28 | Guerin | because he's an eejit? |
| 11:10.41 | skate | hyperstream: you realize you have to apt-get dist-upgrade, right |
| 11:10.46 | Guerin | you almost certainly will have to upgrade your whole systemm to unstable, which is unwise. |
| 11:10.50 | megabit | Can you help me< |
| 11:10.51 | skate | you can't just switch to unstable and upgrade one or two packages |
| 11:11.06 | Guerin | megabit: can you ask a question? |
| 11:11.10 | megabit | How can I detect card reader? |
| 11:11.31 | nkuttler | megabit: ... provide more information |
| 11:11.32 | Guerin | megabit: more detail |
| 11:12.07 | hyperstream | Guerin, or not and learn how to fix this... which would resolve the 'anyone using unstable should be able to deal with' ? |
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| 11:12.51 | megabit | Guerin, I have go a notebook umax 4000CX and there is card reader 4 in 1. |
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| 11:12.57 | hyperstream | thanks skate |
| 11:13.08 | Guerin | hyperstream: well, you'd start by getting an understanding of why precisely it's doing that ... likely because one or more major libraries differ in version between stable and un |
| 11:13.16 | Guerin | hyperstream: DON'T dist-upgrade to unstable |
| 11:13.24 | Guerin | !sid faq |
| 11:13.24 | dpkg | i heard sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 11:13.38 | Guerin | read that before you do anything. Then ask dpkg about BTS. |
| 11:13.47 | Gathond | C++ ABI currently being changed to another version in unstable probably trashes most thinks if you want to use it on stable |
| 11:13.58 | nkuttler | megabit: how is it connected to the board? |
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| 11:14.00 | Guerin | Gathond: i doubt any of gnome is c++ |
| 11:14.10 | Gathond | Guerin: true though |
| 11:14.11 | Guerin | but libc6 updated too |
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| 11:14.20 | umbop | hey, here can i get a the relevant ppd from for my printer? it's not in the list, i've got foomatic and such, but there's a lot of lexmark there, but no lexmark x422 |
| 11:14.33 | resiak | Guerin: Some of the things g-d-e pulls in are C++, as I discovered the hardish way the other day. |
| 11:14.39 | soldiar | hi @ll :) |
| 11:14.39 | Guerin | megabit: if it's an onboard thing it's probably proprietary and may or may not work; in any case, try dmesg and lspci |
| 11:14.45 | Guerin | resiak: heh, ok. |
| 11:14.48 | nkuttler | umbop: try the lexmark website, they have some binary-only (evil) drivers |
| 11:14.52 | soldiar | i've got a little problem and hope, that you can help me. |
| 11:14.55 | trooper00 | unstable gets a bad wrap; runs great as a desktop for me. |
| 11:15.03 | soldiar | I've got Debian Sarge 3.1 amd64-version. |
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| 11:15.11 | soldiar | and a ATI radeon 9200 |
| 11:15.14 | megabit | nkuttler, it is on board |
| 11:15.28 | soldiar | but my display only shows me 800x600 but i wanna have 1.600x1.200. |
| 11:15.28 | umbop | ok i'll give it a while |
| 11:15.30 | umbop | erm whirl |
| 11:15.31 | soldiar | how to do that? |
| 11:15.44 | Guerin | trooper00: unstable can work fine for ages before breaking horribly, as it recently did for anyone using gnome, kde, gaim or a bunch of other thingds |
| 11:16.02 | Guerin | soldiar: does your display support that resolution? |
| 11:16.17 | soldiar | it does. |
| 11:16.29 | btwotch | hiho |
| 11:16.31 | Guerin | !drxx |
| 11:16.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:16.43 | soldiar | my graphic card and my monitor (IBM P200) do support till 1.600x1.200 |
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| 11:16.56 | soldiar | or better I say, they did so under Suse & Windows. |
| 11:16.57 | btwotch | !xmd5 |
| 11:16.57 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 11:17.00 | nkuttler | btwotch: ah, you're not banned any more? |
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| 11:17.04 | flowtron | soldiar : check for Resolutions listed in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
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| 11:17.06 | dob2 | hi |
| 11:17.12 | nkuttler | btwotch: working to be again? |
| 11:17.14 | btwotch | nkuttler: Why would I be banned? |
| 11:17.22 | nkuttler | btwotch: bot abuse? |
| 11:17.28 | dob2 | starting clamav-daemon from the init.d script i get 2 clamd process running, it is normal? |
| 11:17.29 | btwotch | nkuttler: there: also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:17.38 | possie | i have postfix installed, but when i telnet to localhost on port 25, i get nothing, tcp/ip connection gets establed, but i dont get the smtp banner, anyone have a clue what might be wrong? |
| 11:17.42 | Guerin | dob2: if it's set to start on boot, yes. |
| 11:17.49 | nkuttler | btwotch: /msg the bot |
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| 11:17.59 | Guerin | !tell possie about log |
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| 11:18.48 | soldiar | flowtron: there is only written 640x480 and 800x600 should I change it by hand? |
| 11:18.51 | js_ | is e100 or eepro100 the best driver? |
| 11:19.07 | Guerin | soldiar: DO NOT edit your X config by hand |
| 11:19.11 | Guerin | !drxx soldiar |
| 11:19.12 | dpkg | soldiar: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:19.16 | soldiar | but there stands "standard graphiccard" and "standard monitor" |
| 11:19.18 | flowtron | soldiar : look @ what dpkg told you! |
| 11:19.19 | phretor | js_: I use e100 without any problem |
| 11:19.19 | Guerin | come on, pay attention.... |
| 11:19.29 | dob2 | Guerin: it's strange because when i use /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon start i get the warning message about the engine outdate 2 times, so seems that it start the daemon 2 times, can be or this doesn't mean nothing ? |
| 11:19.30 | js_ | phretor: ok |
| 11:19.37 | flowtron | soldiar : those are just "dummy" values |
| 11:19.43 | phretor | js_: it also uses mii |
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| 11:19.55 | sep | dob2, you have considered using volatile ? |
| 11:19.56 | phretor | js_: and has link sense capabilities |
| 11:20.01 | soldiar | flowtron: kay I try it ^^ |
| 11:20.04 | Guerin | dob2: clamav starts a configurable number of daemons, and may run on boot. Read your config. |
| 11:20.07 | js_ | phretor: right, thanks |
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| 11:20.26 | Guerin | sep: how is this relevant to his query? |
| 11:20.27 | dob2 | sep: can cause problems on stable volatile ? |
| 11:20.35 | Guerin | he barely knows if the thing's running... |
| 11:20.55 | soldiar | flowtron: what's a "Bus identifier" ? |
| 11:21.01 | sep | Guerin, not at all, but since he get's the message he obviouslt isn't and running an outdated engine can be a sense of false security |
| 11:21.09 | Guerin | soldiar: it's a cue for you to hit <enter> |
| 11:21.15 | flowtron | soldiar : it identifies the bus ... that's technical :) |
| 11:21.19 | Shadowcat | Guerin: where's the enter key? |
| 11:21.20 | Shadowcat | :P |
| 11:21.36 | nkuttler | Shadowcat: at the front of your case |
| 11:21.36 | Guerin | Shadowcat: above the right shift key # YMMV |
| 11:21.46 | sep | dob2, volatile is made for stable to provide newer software where the age can make it less functional |
| 11:21.51 | flowtron | Shadowcat : I installed a "any key" on my keyboard yesterday! |
| 11:22.01 | Shadowcat | flowtron: heh |
| 11:22.18 | dob2 | sep: yes like backports.org ? and why backports.org is no longer updated ? |
| 11:22.29 | sep | dob2, no volatile is officialy debian |
| 11:23.11 | megabit | Guerin, how can I get some information about graphic card - parametrs< |
| 11:23.12 | megabit | ? |
| 11:23.22 | flowtron | lspci @ megabit?!? |
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| 11:23.25 | nkuttler | sep: the security team doesn't look at it |
| 11:23.28 | soldiar | flowtron: what must I do now? restart? |
| 11:23.42 | Guerin | !reboot |
| 11:23.42 | dpkg | you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2 |
| 11:23.43 | flowtron | soldiar : at least your X enviro |
| 11:23.46 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 11:23.47 | liable | yes reboot |
| 11:23.56 | Shadowcat | !qotd2 |
| 11:23.56 | dpkg | <mrvn> Broadcast message from root (Sat Aug 7 05:48:42 2004): <mrvn> The system is going down for system halt NOW! <mrvn> What the fuck is dselect/dpkg doing a reboot for? <trave11er> mrvn: for changes to take effect? ;-) <StevenK> mrvn: You *had* to move the mouse, didn't you? <mrvn> StevenK: damn, yes. I accidentally pushed it. |
| 11:24.11 | Guerin | as in 'kicks liable again' |
| 11:24.16 | soldiar | flowtron: kay thanks for all :) |
| 11:24.30 | megabit | flowtron, There is a bit of information. |
| 11:24.38 | flowtron | soldiar : Guerin was more helpful IMHO ... but - my pleasure :) |
| 11:24.42 | sep | nkuttler, have to be weary about security issues for the clamav then |
| 11:24.47 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 11:24.56 | nkuttler | sep: and from the release notes: "Note that debian-volatile is not an official Debian service. Use it at your own discretion." |
| 11:25.06 | cyprinus | which options write in fstab to mount NTFS and make user "cyprinus" able to has access to it? |
| 11:25.08 | soldiar | Guerin: thanks ^^ |
| 11:25.17 | soldiar | Guerin: thanks for all |
| 11:25.18 | Guerin | aiui it's unofficial in the same way that non-free is unofficial |
| 11:25.21 | petemc | cyprinus: umask=022 |
| 11:25.39 | Shadowcat | cyprinus: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 -o umask=0222 /mnt/porn |
| 11:25.40 | cyprinus | write umask-022? |
| 11:25.41 | nkuttler | Guerin: that makes sense |
| 11:25.46 | petemc | cyprinus: no writing, its ntfs |
| 11:25.52 | cyprinus | but i dont want mount once |
| 11:26.02 | Shadowcat | or rather |
| 11:26.07 | petemc | cyprinus: or, yes, write that in the options section of fstab |
| 11:26.08 | Shadowcat | mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 -r -o umask=0222 /mnt/porn |
| 11:26.14 | Guerin | cyprinus: so show some adaptability and edit your GDMF fstab |
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| 11:26.23 | cyprinus | i wat to have constant access to it and have it mounted everytime i start system |
| 11:26.29 | petemc | Shadowcat: the -r is redundant |
| 11:26.38 | Shadowcat | petemc: it's psychological |
| 11:26.45 | Shadowcat | I know it's redundant |
| 11:26.47 | petemc | cyprinus: man fstab |
| 11:26.47 | liable | F.S.T.A.B! |
| 11:26.49 | sep | nkuttler, ahh not official then, thanks. but i still like to have the av engine updated, otherways customers will complain that the mailserver lets viruses into their email |
| 11:26.53 | cyprinus | ok ok |
| 11:26.54 | cyprinus | ;] |
| 11:27.00 | trooper00 | cyprinus: man fstab .. just have to edit that file. know you can do it |
| 11:27.21 | cyprinus | trooper00: ill do it |
| 11:27.23 | Guerin | !qotd0 |
| 11:27.23 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
| 11:27.34 | Guerin | oh, raf256 was so stupid |
| 11:27.34 | jethro | hah |
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| 11:27.37 | jethro | indeed |
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| 11:27.48 | jethro | !qotd51 |
| 11:27.48 | dpkg | <Caelum> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 11:28.03 | flowtron | !qotd42 |
| 11:28.06 | liable | stupid is as stupid does |
| 11:28.09 | jethro | what's the qotd where one believes /var/ is rm'ed everty reboot? |
| 11:28.12 | Guerin | did he get permanently banned, or did he just slink off someplace |
| 11:28.31 | Guerin | jethro: dunno the number |
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| 11:28.48 | tezra | can anyone explain me why the hierarchy is like it is in this ftp -> ftp://ftp.es.debian.org/debian-cd/current/powerpc/ <-- I want to know if the "other" directory holds different boot images or just the separate boot images used in the previous directories |
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| 11:29.08 | WooDiE | mahlzeit |
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| 11:29.21 | _daniel | i'm having trouble with using a touchpad with synaptics |
| 11:29.37 | WooDiE | kann ich under debian ein bestehentes system nachträglich partitioniere? |
| 11:29.37 | liable | where the hell is .at |
| 11:29.43 | Shadowcat | !english |
| 11:29.43 | dpkg | somebody said english was a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!! |
| 11:29.44 | Guerin | !de |
| 11:29.44 | dpkg | de is, like, deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 11:29.45 | nkuttler | liable: europe |
| 11:29.49 | flowtron | WooDiE : It might be lunchtime where you are ... but this is an english speaking channel |
| 11:29.50 | nkuttler | liable: austria |
| 11:29.59 | liable | ah, thanks. |
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| 11:30.07 | WooDiE | i guess iam on debian.de |
| 11:30.13 | liable | no |
| 11:30.15 | nkuttler | WooDiE: obviously not |
| 11:30.24 | Guerin | no, he is |
| 11:30.32 | liable | nein! |
| 11:30.38 | skate | haha |
| 11:30.41 | skate | he is joined there |
| 11:30.41 | Guerin | you know, it's possible to be on MORE THAN ONE irc channel at a time! |
| 11:30.47 | Shadowcat | _daniel: aptitude install xfree86-driver-synaptics |
| 11:30.47 | Guerin | if your client supports it, that is |
| 11:30.53 | Shadowcat | then read the documentation to install it |
| 11:31.04 | _daniel | Shadowcat, ok i have installed it |
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| 11:31.17 | jm_ | !qotd 71 |
| 11:31.21 | Shadowcat | _daniel: now read the documentation on how to install it |
| 11:31.22 | jm_ | !qotd71 |
| 11:31.22 | dpkg | methinks qotd71 is <kbrooks> i believe /var gets rm -rf'd at every boot |
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| 11:31.23 | jethro | !qotd71 |
| 11:31.29 | jethro | jm_: thanks, just found it :) |
| 11:31.40 | Shadowcat | jethro: type rm -rf /var as root |
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| 11:31.41 | Shadowcat | :P |
| 11:31.41 | liable | being on the right channel, and then talking on the right channel appear to be two different things.. |
| 11:31.45 | jethro | !lart Shadowcat |
| 11:31.56 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 11:31.59 | jethro | :) |
| 11:32.03 | Shadowcat | !beat jethro |
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| 11:32.18 | _daniel | but on xorg startup it says: |
| 11:32.22 | _daniel | (EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device |
| 11:32.22 | _daniel | (EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware. |
| 11:32.22 | _daniel | (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Synaptics Touchpad" |
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| 11:32.41 | liable | bios/ |
| 11:32.43 | liable | ?? |
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| 11:33.38 | soldiar | re |
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| 11:33.58 | soldiar | now it's a bit better. |
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| 11:34.29 | soldiar | it's not 1.600x1.200 now :( but it's 1.024x768 ^^ and that's better than 800x600 ^^ |
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| 11:34.53 | bwlang | how do i send a message to all logged in users ? |
| 11:34.57 | petemc | wall |
| 11:34.59 | jethro | 800x600 is the ideal size to look at www.openbsd.org |
| 11:34.59 | RichiH | wall |
| 11:35.00 | liable | write |
| 11:35.05 | bwlang | petemc: thanks |
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| 11:35.18 | Shadowcat | heh 800x600 |
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| 11:38.44 | Shadowcat | crazy |
| 11:38.44 | phretor | Guerin: could you please post that dpkg purgin script again? Thanks |
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| 11:38.49 | Shadowcat | I run at 1600x1200 |
| 11:39.07 | phretor | Guerin: 'cause I've columns problems |
| 11:39.20 | liable | oooh, that big.. |
| 11:39.29 | liable | :P |
| 11:39.36 | jethro | :) |
| 11:40.20 | liable | wenas |
| 11:40.24 | phretor | Guerin: COLUMNS variable seems to be ignored |
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| 11:42.09 | tralala | phretor: it's not ignored |
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| 11:42.24 | phretor | tralala: I had to export it |
| 11:43.01 | tralala | this is what export is all about |
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| 11:43.21 | tralala | or you could do "VAR=value prog" without exporting |
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| 11:46.49 | trooper00 | where can i change the amount of time before screen blanking on the text consoles occurs? |
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| 11:50.09 | skate | trooper00: setterm -blank * |
| 11:50.18 | skate | * being the amount, in minutes |
| 11:50.21 | skate | 0 for never |
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| 11:50.38 | skate | type setterm and you'll see all the terminal settings |
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| 11:51.45 | trooper00 | skate: so setterm -blank 0 -term tty8 .. will turn off blanking on tty8? |
| 11:51.51 | chandra | I installed debian on a second harddisk, now how do I configure my mbr (grub from centos) to boot to debain? |
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| 11:52.23 | Trev_ | morning |
| 11:52.27 | jm_ | chandra: you already have an entry in it for linux, copy it and modify it (info grub) |
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| 11:52.38 | phretor | got to go, thanks for the support |
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| 11:54.20 | tralala | !customer |
| 11:54.20 | dpkg | another happy customer leaves the building |
| 11:55.00 | Bwl | heh, that's so. :) |
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| 11:56.05 | p30n | hello |
| 11:56.35 | p30n | how do i check in bash how much hdd space a specific directory is using, and how do i check how much is left free on the hdd ? |
| 11:56.56 | SimonRaven | df, di, du, man all of 'em |
| 11:57.30 | jm_ | p30n: read some newbie guides |
| 11:57.45 | p30n | i just wanted the cmd |
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| 11:58.12 | jm_ | so why not read some guides too? i.e. dos/windows to linux howto |
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| 11:58.44 | p30n | well, ive read sum, just that i wanted a fast answer, what cmd to use, and i got it |
| 11:58.47 | p30n | now im satisfied |
| 11:59.01 | jm_ | good luck for the future |
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| 12:00.24 | tralala | yeah, man is known for its ability to bring satisfaction |
| 12:00.47 | liable | err.. |
| 12:00.51 | p30n | ok, another question then: i´ve heard that hdd´s that are filled to say 80% or more, are easier to get broken is that true ? and to what point should i fill them to keep the lifetime of the hdd´s as long as possible ? |
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| 12:00.57 | skate | whoa that sounded just slightly homo |
| 12:00.59 | skate | =x |
| 12:01.12 | p30n | jm_: thx |
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| 12:01.20 | chandra | jm_, kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-11.EL ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet <--- I don't undertand what " kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-11.EL ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet" means |
| 12:02.00 | jm_ | chandra: did you read GRUB docs? |
| 12:02.06 | chandra | jm_, no ( |
| 12:02.18 | jm_ | chandra: ahh then it doesn't surprise me you don't understand it |
| 12:02.19 | Guerin | there's still time to start before someone larts you |
| 12:02.21 | liable | chandra: what distro you using? |
| 12:02.25 | tralala | p30n: the lifetime of the hdd has nothing to do with how much it is filled. It's just that many filesystems became slower when becomming full |
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| 12:02.45 | chandra | liable, i installed debian on second HD, my 1st hd is centos |
| 12:03.10 | p30n | tralala: ok, thanks for the info, so my 4x 400giga sata raid-0 array will do just fine even if its fiilled to 95% then ? |
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| 12:03.35 | tralala | in terms of hardware yes |
| 12:03.57 | liable | nite |
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| 12:04.02 | p30n | and in terms of software ? it could be a lil slower than it should be ? |
| 12:04.17 | sn00p | Whats the easiest way up upgrading to a newer kernel in debian apt-get or just d/l'ing the source? |
| 12:04.18 | tralala | isn't that what I just said? |
| 12:04.30 | tralala | sn00p: apt-get |
| 12:04.42 | sn00p | tralala: Really the last time I tried that I got a kernel panic |
| 12:05.03 | tralala | which debian branch do you use? |
| 12:05.08 | sn00p | sarge |
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| 12:05.11 | sn00p | stable |
| 12:05.21 | sn00p | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:06.09 | tralala | you can't upgrade the kernel in sarge unless you're switching from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 12:06.19 | sn00p | Thats what I want to do |
| 12:06.22 | tralala | if you do apt-get is just fine |
| 12:06.28 | pudo | hi. is there a nice way to backup a _big_ file that is being changed all the time? with minimal downtime? |
| 12:06.30 | Ekaterin | I'm having trouble upgrading to sarge. dselect can't unpack libextx6 because it complains about overwriting a file which is also in xlibs, and the same with xlibmesa-dri and xlibmesa4-dri. |
| 12:06.30 | sn00p | I need to configure my mouse |
| 12:06.35 | sn00p | My usb mouse isn't working |
| 12:06.45 | sn00p | but the usb drivers are loaded |
| 12:07.00 | tralala | !tell sn00p -about mouse |
| 12:07.24 | tralala | pudo: what kind of big file? |
| 12:07.24 | sn00p | doesn't debian usually run a mouse deamon? |
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| 12:07.38 | CyzarX | i have an onboard sound card, soundstorm and soundblaster live platinum (external sound card). can alsa recognise both sounds card and let me pick which to use each time? |
| 12:07.41 | pudo | tralala: a xen partition, actually :-( |
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| 12:07.58 | pudo | i can pause xen, but only for a minimal timespan |
| 12:08.13 | tralala | sn00p: no |
| 12:08.34 | sn00p | ok, cuz in freebsd u can usually move the mouse pointer around |
| 12:08.41 | sn00p | in the command line |
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| 12:10.14 | Dragon-Eater | hello guys :-) |
| 12:10.21 | Dragon-Eater | There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. |
| 12:10.31 | Ekaterin | What is it unsafe to do while perl is brokenly installed? I'm having difficulty upgrading to sarge, and I think removing xlibmesa4-dri would fix one error message I'm getting. |
| 12:10.43 | tralala | !pal Dragon-Eater |
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| 12:10.44 | asg | Dragon-Eater: there are also people who have heard the same old boring jokes |
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| 12:11.20 | nullvoid | I am trying to compile postfix 2.2.5 with vda patch - for my postfixadmin to work. I am getting error saying /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsasl collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 12:11.21 | BiZToRo | can i rebuild depence "list" |
| 12:11.39 | BiZToRo | i am getting error when trying insaling gnome |
| 12:11.42 | tralala | Ekaterin: that's a very confusing question. Could you try to rephrase it? |
| 12:11.43 | stew | nullvoid: did you apt-get build-dep postfix ? |
| 12:11.43 | MaxPower | hey, could someone tell me please how you search for packages to use for apt-get? |
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| 12:11.56 | asg | nullvoid: look for a libsasl*-dev package |
| 12:12.09 | BiZToRo | pls help :> |
| 12:12.20 | Dragon-Eater | asg o so true |
| 12:12.25 | tralala | BiZToRo: do you run sid? |
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| 12:12.29 | Dragon-Eater | but im using it more as a test ;-) |
| 12:12.30 | Ekaterin | tralala: OK, I tried apt-get remove anyway and it didn't work. |
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| 12:12.46 | stew | BiZToRo: tell us what error you are acutally getting |
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| 12:13.08 | BiZToRo | Naslednji paketi imajo nere¹ene odvisnosti: |
| 12:13.08 | BiZToRo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.08 | BiZToRo | E: Pokvarjeni paketi |
| 12:13.27 | nullvoid | stew & asg: I already have postfix 2.2.4 default sid, can I just install the new one? |
| 12:13.28 | tralala | !topicsmite BiZToRo |
| 12:13.29 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon BiZToRo. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 12:13.34 | Ekaterin | I am trying to upgrade to sarge with dselect, and am getting error messages such as "trying to overwrite '/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.4' which is also in package xlibs". |
| 12:13.47 | Dragon-Eater | tralala u also have /cs topic |
| 12:13.50 | Dragon-Eater | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:13.59 | tralala | !u |
| 12:13.59 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 12:14.03 | jm_ | BiZToRo: don't use sid |
| 12:14.12 | Dragon-Eater | !u |
| 12:14.13 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 12:14.19 | stew | nullvoid: install or compile? |
| 12:14.20 | resiak | Dragon-Eater: /msg the bot. |
| 12:14.35 | Dragon-Eater | omg resiak shut it i only typed 1 time |
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| 12:14.52 | Ekaterin | tralala: Possibly because of these errors, dselect isn't getting anywhere with the upgrade. What can I do about it? |
| 12:14.54 | resiak | Dragon-Eater: omg wtf lololol im only trying 2b helping |
| 12:14.55 | tralala | !tell Ekaterin -about woody->sarge |
| 12:15.36 | nullvoid | stew: I have it installed but the default is not patched yet, so I need to download it from source, patch and compile then install |
| 12:15.54 | gryzor | [sarge/i386] Greetings. Am i the only one having problems with firefox since security upgrades? downloading binary files doesn't work. (I deleted .mozilla, it fixed the problem but now (24hours later) i have the same problem again. |
| 12:15.56 | stew | < stew> nullvoid: did you apt-get build-dep postfix ? |
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| 12:16.04 | soldiar | :) |
| 12:16.13 | Dragon-Eater | resiak well YOU arent doing a very good job if YOU require it neccesary to inform about privmsg after only using the bot onetime |
| 12:16.16 | tralala | !tell gryzor -about bts |
| 12:16.21 | resiak | gryzor: Have you checked the BTS? I've heard of people moaning about Sarge's Fx. |
| 12:16.28 | nullvoid | stew: no |
| 12:16.39 | nullvoid | stew: I have postfix 2.2.4 installed |
| 12:16.59 | gryzor | tralala: i have tried. Searching for "mozilla-firefox" on bugs.debian.org returns a "zero size reply", according to my squid server |
| 12:17.01 | stew | nullvoid: you likely won't be able to build it without installing the build-deps |
| 12:17.07 | nullvoid | stew ok |
| 12:17.13 | resiak | *plonk!* |
| 12:17.13 | gryzor | which is quite funny btw |
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| 12:17.14 | nullvoid | I am installing it now |
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| 12:17.42 | Meltir | i have a problem - prolly nothing for you guys ;P i removed a package by -force coz i needed to get it from a diff source (tgz to be exact) and now everytime i want to do something with apt - it tries to bring that package back. is there a way i can make the deps for that package die or something ? |
| 12:17.43 | MaxPower | hey, could someone tell me please how you search for packages to use for apt-get? |
| 12:17.50 | Dragon-Eater | Woody->Sarge? |
| 12:17.53 | resiak | MaxPower: man apt-cache |
| 12:18.00 | nullvoid | stew: should I remove postfix 2.2.4 before make install patched postfix 2.2.5 |
| 12:18.00 | Dragon-Eater | !tell Dragon-Eater -about woody->sarge |
| 12:18.08 | MaxPower | resiak thanks |
| 12:18.08 | streuner | apt, tell MaxPower about search |
| 12:18.12 | tralala | Meltir: yes, by uninstalling them |
| 12:18.12 | stew | nullvoid: not necessary |
| 12:18.13 | BiZToRo | dont use sid... then i dont have gnome 2.10 :> |
| 12:18.13 | greycat | !tell Meltir about VAGUENESS |
| 12:18.21 | stew | Meltir: /msg dpkg equivs |
| 12:18.25 | Dragon-Eater | You know |
| 12:18.31 | resiak | !tell BiZToRo -about sid faq |
| 12:18.36 | Dragon-Eater | im running a debian sarge server for a few months |
| 12:18.39 | sn00p | time for bed |
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| 12:18.50 | cahoot | not bsd? |
| 12:18.53 | Ekaterin | tralala: Well, because my system is broken "apt-get install aptitude" just gives a flood of error messages. But for future reference, is aptitude as interactive as dselect? |
| 12:18.57 | nullvoid | stew: I have make makefiles 'CCARGS=-DHAS_MYSQL -I/usr/include/mysql -DUSE_SASL_AUTH -I/usr/include/sasl' \ |
| 12:18.57 | nullvoid | 'AUXLIBS=-L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient -lz -lm -L/usr/lib -lsasl' |
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| 12:19.07 | Dragon-Eater | and the server hasnt been off once, only my internet connection sometimes decided to go off |
| 12:19.09 | tralala | Ekaterin: yes, it is. |
| 12:19.10 | bwlang | Meltir: it's generally a bad idea to force anything... i also think it's bad to install anything but debs on a debian system - leads to cruft buildup. try dpkg --purge pkgname |
| 12:19.10 | nullvoid | stew: how can I have pcre built in also? |
| 12:19.13 | gryzor | anyone here uses firefox on sarge and not having the same problem s i do? |
| 12:19.22 | stew | nullvoid: read INSTALL and README |
| 12:19.23 | tralala | Ekaterin: you might want to try apt-get -f install first |
| 12:19.42 | Dragon-Eater | btw |
| 12:19.43 | Dragon-Eater | Tasks: 66 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 13 stopped, 0 zombie |
| 12:19.44 | streuner | Ekaterin: did you read release-notes? |
| 12:19.49 | stew | gryzor: check the bts |
| 12:19.51 | nullvoid | stew: I had install the build-dep postfix but still get same error |
| 12:19.52 | Dragon-Eater | anyone have a idea how i can bring down tasks? |
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| 12:20.04 | nullvoid | stew: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsasl |
| 12:20.12 | stew | nullvoid: are you trying to build the debian package? or upstream source? |
| 12:20.15 | gryzor | stew: 324609 is it, yes |
| 12:20.16 | greycat | nullvoid: /msg dpkg find libsasl.so sarge |
| 12:20.27 | nullvoid | greycat: I am using sid |
| 12:20.36 | greycat | !smite nullvoid |
| 12:20.58 | nullvoid | stew: I am trying to install postfix from scrach |
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| 12:21.12 | nullvoid | !beat greycat |
| 12:21.12 | tom22 | hi all, i am running netatalk so Mac PCs can use debian as fileserver. since a few days the name of the server doesn't show up under Mac OS and I have to type the IP. Any idea where the name went to? |
| 12:21.21 | nullvoid | !smack greycat |
| 12:21.27 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 12:21.29 | Cope | !beer greycat |
| 12:21.32 | Dragon-Eater | Hi all. Some time in the next few minutes, we're going to have to restart one large main rotation server.... it'll be pretty noisy. Leftovers from the conversion. Please bear with us. |
| 12:21.32 | stew | nullvoid: why not just patch and rebuild the debian sources? |
| 12:21.35 | tralala | nullvoid: don't abuse the bot |
| 12:21.53 | SimonRaven | nullvoid: you're making an ass out of yourself |
| 12:21.54 | nullvoid | stew: how |
| 12:22.23 | SimonRaven | yeh yeh late agai. excuse me if i do other things than irc |
| 12:22.25 | nullvoid | stew: any how to for building deb package for postfix + vda ? |
| 12:22.32 | stew | nullvoid: /msg dpkg source |
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| 12:22.58 | Dragon-Eater | omg we all USE the bot, and if you use it more then once ur ABusing it.... |
| 12:23.33 | streuner | nullvoid: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg |
| 12:23.33 | tralala | !topicsmite Dragon-Eater |
| 12:23.34 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Dragon-Eater. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 12:23.57 | cahoot | nullvoid: google for debian customization howto |
| 12:24.27 | Dragon-Eater | !smite tralala |
| 12:24.38 | gryzor | cya guys |
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| 12:26.57 | streuner | hm |
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| 12:27.48 | Ekaterin | OK, my main upgrade problem may actually be that perl is brokenly installed. How do I get rid of the error message "Can't locate File/Basename.pm in @INC"? |
| 12:28.02 | greycat | !find File/Basename.pm sarge |
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| 12:28.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'File/Basename.pm' (1): (/usr/share/perl/5.8.4/File/Basename.pm) in perl/perl-modules. |
| 12:28.39 | greycat | fetch that, install it with dpkg -i (if apt-get is failing) |
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| 12:29.48 | Ekaterin | !find File/Basename.pm woody |
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| 12:30.04 | greycat | broken woody to sarge upgrade? ouch. |
| 12:30.07 | manu__ | some one knows how to install a usb wireless adapter on my ubuntu |
| 12:30.09 | manu__ | ? |
| 12:30.15 | greycat | manu__: #ubuntu might. |
| 12:30.16 | resiak | !ubuntu |
| 12:30.16 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian> |
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| 12:30.26 | ricky_clarkson | I just joined to watch the impending netsplit. |
| 12:30.30 | manu__ | nobody is respnding there |
| 12:30.30 | resiak | :/ Someone altered that factoid. |
| 12:30.31 | nullvoid | stew: I had tried to understand dpkg words but can't figure out |
| 12:30.34 | resiak | !they don't know |
| 12:30.34 | greycat | !they don't know |
| 12:30.34 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 12:30.38 | resiak | !win me |
| 12:30.39 | dpkg | Congratulations, resiak! You have won a one way ticket to Soviet Russia! |
| 12:30.50 | greycat | in soviet russia, dpkg wins a ticket to resiak! |
| 12:30.53 | ricky_clarkson | !we don't know |
| 12:30.54 | streuner | greycat: really wired, because upgrade to sarge from woody (perl) is pretty painless |
| 12:31.05 | resiak | greycat: Heh. |
| 12:31.37 | Ekaterin | I suspect the unofficial backports of certain X packages are causing problems. |
| 12:31.37 | ricky_clarkson | In Soviet Russia, the email sends you. |
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| 12:32.11 | asg | ricky_clarkson: In Soviet Russia, sussudios are born every minute |
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| 12:34.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'File/Basename.pm' (1): (/usr/share/perl/5.6.1/File/Basename.pm) in interpreters/perl-modules. |
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| 12:34.28 | greycat | whee! |
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| 12:34.31 | ricky_clarkson | In Soviet Britain, the sheep shag the Welsh. |
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| 12:34.31 | asg | hah |
| 12:34.33 | greycat | but only after the Soviet Welsh spike the water supply |
| 12:34.33 | Ekaterin | Now I'm confused. On my broken system, File/Basename.pm is in /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/ which is in the list of directories in @INC - so why can't it locate it? |
| 12:34.41 | jm_ | Ekaterin: what can't? |
| 12:34.43 | greycat | Ekaterin: which version of perl do you have now? |
| 12:34.58 | jm_ | Ekaterin: check perl -V output |
| 12:35.04 | stew | Ekaterin: i'd guess its becuase you installed another perl in /use/local/ which is the one that's complaining |
| 12:35.13 | streuner | apt, info perl sarge |
| 12:35.19 | stew | Ekaterin: what does "which perl" say? /usr/local/bin/perl ? |
| 12:35.20 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: water supply spikes YOU. |
| 12:35.24 | Ekaterin | jm_: dselect can't. |
| 12:35.35 | nullvoid | jm_: hi |
| 12:35.42 | Ekaterin | which perl says /usr/bin/perl, and perl --version says 5.6.1. |
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| 12:36.12 | greycat | apt: who asked ya? |
| 12:36.18 | ricky_clarkson | which perl |
| 12:36.20 | jm_ | Ekaterin: are you using Woody? |
| 12:36.23 | jm_ | nullvoid: hi |
| 12:36.36 | nullvoid | jm_: I am trying to compile postfix 2.2.5 with vda patch, when I make, I got error saying /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsasl .... |
| 12:36.42 | Ekaterin | jm_: I'm trying to upgrade from woody to sarge, and having difficulty. |
| 12:36.50 | nullvoid | jm_: I am using sid |
| 12:37.01 | ricky_clarkson | And 'cid. |
| 12:37.08 | nullvoid | Ekaterin: what error you got? |
| 12:37.16 | Ekaterin | I'm actually not sure whether the major problem is perl, or the two X packages that won't unpack because of file conflicts. |
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| 12:37.34 | greycat | X is non essential. you can just purge that for the upgrade and reinstall it afterward. |
| 12:37.48 | streuner | Ekaterin: perl isn't fully installed on your system |
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| 12:38.51 | ricky_clarkson | Ekaterin: apt-get --purge remove x-window-system |
| 12:38.52 | streuner | Ekaterin: debian won't work without perl |
| 12:39.02 | ricky_clarkson | Ekaterin: Then apt-get install perl |
| 12:39.06 | jm_ | Ekaterin: why are you using dselect? |
| 12:39.15 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: that won't do much. |
| 12:39.18 | jm_ | nullvoid: use Debian packages |
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| 12:39.21 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Why? |
| 12:39.28 | greycat | because x-window-system is a top-level metapackage |
| 12:39.34 | greycat | !remove x |
| 12:39.35 | dpkg | In sarge: apt-get --purge remove xfree86-common In sid: apt-get --purge remove x11-common |
| 12:39.37 | ricky_clarkson | Oh yeah. ;) |
| 12:39.44 | Ekaterin | jm_: Because with apt-get, you can't correct the computer's guesses at how to fix dependency problems. |
| 12:39.57 | nullvoid | jm_: can I use Debian packages for postfixadmin? |
| 12:40.35 | MaxPower | hey, could some please help me permanently mount my windows partition to linux instead of having to mount it each time i log in? |
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| 12:40.43 | greycat | the only supported way to go from woody to sarge is aptitude |
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| 12:40.51 | ricky_clarkson | MaxPower: Add auto to the options in the fstab line. |
| 12:40.53 | greycat | MaxPower: man fstab |
| 12:41.02 | jm_ | Ekaterin: aptitude? |
| 12:41.15 | MaxPower | ricky_clarkson, greycat: thanks :) |
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| 12:41.47 | jm_ | nullvoid: well use Debian source package to build a deb out of it |
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| 12:42.17 | greycat | !wb debhelper |
| 12:42.18 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! debhelper has returned! |
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| 12:44.21 | maxd | hey, i've installed debian stable. while halting the system, one of the last outputs says: mount: couldn't umount /dev/hda device is busy.... i can't get something from the logs, seems as syslogd is already shutdown at that moment. does anyone know how to analyze that problem? |
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| 12:45.11 | nullvoid | jm_: how do I build debian package out of it? |
| 12:45.14 | JuanSeet | Hi can anybody help me to mount an SFS partition (ntfs dinamic volumes) |
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| 12:45.58 | streuner | maxd: so hda is your first HD? |
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| 12:46.57 | stew | nullvoid: /msg dpkg source |
| 12:47.06 | stew | nullvoid: which part of that are you having trouble understanding? |
| 12:47.39 | nullvoid | stew: after getting the source files, how can I patch it |
| 12:47.45 | ricksoft | Hi, I'm trying to get my new install (sarge) to swop from gnome to kde for windows manager. Someone suggested putting "exec /usr/bin/startkde" into my ~/.xinitrc file, but that didn't work - Gnome still comes up. |
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| 12:48.03 | greycat | ricksoft: how are you logging in? |
| 12:48.13 | jm_ | nullvoid: that largely depends on how Debian package is built |
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| 12:48.22 | ricksoft | Graphical manager - kdm I think. |
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| 12:48.34 | ericP | if listbugs shows a bug for mysql-server-4.1=4.1.13a-3 , and i still want a mysql, where can i look for the most recent prior version? |
| 12:48.48 | maxd | streuner: yep, no others in there |
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| 12:48.56 | jm_ | nullvoid: some source packages contain .tar.gz which gets unpacked, some already have upstream sources unpacked |
| 12:48.57 | nullvoid | jm_: I got all the files downloaded using apt-get source, now I need to patch it |
| 12:48.59 | nkuttler | ericP: /msg dpkg snapshot |
| 12:49.07 | stew | nullvoid: do you know how to use patch? |
| 12:49.16 | jm_ | nullvoid: see above and check details for postfix package |
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| 12:49.21 | nullvoid | yeap |
| 12:49.27 | streuner | maxd: and /var/log/message and /var/log/syslog haven't any entry about? |
| 12:49.33 | jm_ | nullvoid: postfix-tls - TLS and SASL support for Postfix |
| 12:49.39 | stew | nullvoid: so what is confusing then? |
| 12:49.55 | maxd | streuner: no, nothing in tehre |
| 12:50.08 | jm_ | nullvoid: it already has dependeancies for SASL so you will have no problems with that, just apply your patch |
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| 12:50.19 | streuner | maxd: if can boot and halt the system fine, just ignore it then. |
| 12:50.29 | Meltir | bwlang: sadly im on woody and my connection @work doesnt give the option to distupgrade :( one of these days im going to take my sarge dvd's and... |
| 12:50.59 | maxd | streuner: the problem is, it will fsck everytime |
| 12:51.06 | streuner | maxd: oh |
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| 12:51.22 | debugger | what is the initscript that launches named at 127.0.0.1? /etc/init.d/bind9 doesn't seem to stop it :| |
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| 12:51.54 | streuner | maxd: what filesystem do you use? |
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| 12:52.12 | maxd | streuner: ext3 |
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| 12:52.26 | streuner | maxd: do you have a knoppix CD handy? |
| 12:52.31 | maxd | yep |
| 12:53.11 | streuner | maxd: ok, fsck the FS and look at the entries in /etc/fstab |
| 12:53.26 | ericP | nkuttler, is there a safe way to get apt-get to use snapshot.debian.net so i can grab an older version? |
| 12:53.44 | maxd | streuner: ? |
| 12:53.52 | maxd | streuner: and then? |
| 12:53.58 | asg | ericP: just grab the package manually and use dpkg -i |
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| 12:54.03 | streuner | maxd: reboot |
| 12:54.10 | ericP | odd, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mysql-server-4.1&version=4.1.11a-3 shows bugs fro 4.1.11a-4 |
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| 12:54.36 | maxd | streuner: i don't understand what that should do to my system? |
| 12:54.39 | greycat | debugger: depends on which name server you installed. |
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| 12:54.55 | nullvoid | jm_: how do I enter this: make makefiles 'CCARGS=-DHAS_MYSQL -I/usr/include/mysql -DUSE_SASL_AUTH -I/usr/include/sasl' \ |
| 12:54.55 | nullvoid | 'AUXLIBS=-L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient -lz -lm -L/usr/lib -lsasl' |
| 12:54.58 | debugger | greycat, what you mean? :| |
| 12:55.03 | maxd | streuner: i've installed debian stable, and everytime it halts with a mounted hda |
| 12:55.10 | ericP | asg, yeah, i guess that means i have to get all the dependencies by hand and mark them as dependencies in aptitude |
| 12:55.12 | jm_ | nullvoid: you shouldn't need to touch that |
| 12:55.16 | maxd | streuner: this makes fsck check every new boot |
| 12:55.25 | streuner | maxd: well, 1) you FS is fscked or 2) entries in /etc/fstab are wrong |
| 12:55.30 | TraceGreen | Hello, i want to use a file manager, just copy, move, delete, and i want to is as light as possible, any ideas? |
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| 12:55.35 | nullvoid | jm_: I done the patch |
| 12:55.36 | greycat | debugger: if you installed bind, it's bind. if you installed bind9, it's bind9. if you installed djbdns, it's either tinydns or dnscache. if you installed mayadns (or whatever it's called), ...... |
| 12:55.45 | streuner | maxd: s/you/your/ |
| 12:55.56 | jm_ | nullvoid: debuild -uc -us -b |
| 12:55.59 | debugger | greycat, I have bind9. |
| 12:55.59 | nullvoid | jm_: just for your info, I am reading from http://postfixwiki.org/index.php?title=Virtual_Users_and_Domains_with_Courier-IMAP_and_MySQL#Create_the_database |
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| 12:56.16 | greycat | debugger: and what happens when you run "/etc/init.d/bind9 stop"? |
| 12:56.17 | maxd | mh ok streuner, i'll check that |
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| 12:56.24 | poison | Hi all, when I do a hdparm -tT /dev/hda1 I get the following: Timing buffered disk reads: read() failed: Success |
| 12:56.33 | streuner | maxd: show us your /etc/fstab |
| 12:56.40 | jm_ | nullvoid: skip the steps used to build the thing, rely on Debian to do that for you |
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| 12:56.45 | streuner | maxd: in #flood |
| 12:56.51 | Cure | guten tag... |
| 12:56.58 | nullvoid | jm_: I don't have debuild |
| 12:56.59 | nkuttler | !de |
| 12:56.59 | dpkg | from memory, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 12:57.05 | debugger | greycat, it only stops one instance of bind, but another is running on the system; the one listening at 127.0.0.1, I don't known how is launching that one :| |
| 12:57.06 | greycat | mattress tag |
| 12:57.13 | jm_ | nullvoid: what do you do if you don't have a command someone tells tyou to run? |
| 12:57.19 | greycat | debugger: lsof -i :53 |
| 12:57.22 | maxd | streuner: i'm not at the machine right now.. i'll come back later |
| 12:57.27 | Cure | hello there |
| 12:57.30 | nullvoid | jm_: is't dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -b ? |
| 12:57.31 | maxd | streuner: thanks so long |
| 12:57.37 | poison | is there anybody who knows what this means? |
| 12:57.42 | jm_ | nullvoid: please use debuild |
| 12:57.44 | poison | *mean |
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| 12:57.46 | Cure | could i ask u guys a question ? |
| 12:57.50 | debugger | greycat, I did that. its a bind instance... but I don't known how has lauched it, or if it supposed to be running. |
| 12:57.56 | streuner | Cure: just ask |
| 12:57.57 | greycat | !tell cure about ask |
| 12:57.58 | jethro | !tell cure -about ask |
| 12:58.01 | jethro | gvd |
| 12:58.02 | debugger | greycat, errr s,how,who |
| 12:58.15 | greycat | debugger: well, we don't know either. |
| 12:58.36 | debugger | greycat, you known if bind is supposed to lauch two instances? |
| 12:58.40 | tarzeau | has someone got an engrish filter? |
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| 12:58.49 | Cure | thanks guy... i have a small problem... two comps, one xp and a laptop with knoppix live running on it.. gotta get a 6gb file on the laptop... trying it with dd but at 2gb it stops... im totall stuck |
| 12:58.52 | greycat | debugger: I've never used bind9. |
| 12:59.01 | jethro | Cure: #knoppix |
| 12:59.06 | jm_ | tarzeau: it probably doesn't count, but bfinn.pl might work ;) |
| 12:59.07 | debugger | greycat, I see. thx anyways ;) |
| 12:59.11 | tarzeau | Cure: over what? smbfs? |
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| 12:59.24 | tarzeau | jm_: where to get that? is it in filter already? |
| 12:59.30 | Cure | jethro i know...no one reacts there |
| 12:59.35 | tarzeau | err filters package |
| 12:59.39 | Cure | tarzeau : yes |
| 12:59.44 | poison | is there anybody who knows why my hdparm read() fails? |
| 12:59.45 | tarzeau | jm_: nethackify (from me was added). |
| 12:59.46 | streuner | apt, they don't know |
| 12:59.47 | apt | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 12:59.50 | greycat | Cure: ask #samba, then. |
| 12:59.51 | tarzeau | Cure: well there's bug #141997 |
| 13:00.01 | tarzeau | Cure: oh try not smbfs but cifs |
| 13:00.03 | jethro | Cure: and that makes you feel like you can hassle #debian ? |
| 13:00.11 | tarzeau | !debian based |
| 13:00.11 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 13:00.15 | jm_ | tarzeau: naah, someone from #linux on ircnet wrote it - google doesn't find it anymore |
| 13:00.26 | ricky_clarkson | Cure: If Spanish people wouldn't tell you how to translate something to Spanish, would you ask French people to do it? |
| 13:00.31 | tarzeau | jm_: you sure have it in / |
| 13:00.43 | jethro | french can't speak spanish ricky_clarkson, it doesn't count |
| 13:00.50 | Cure | oh come on guys.. there aint no need to be so mean... cant expect all to be as great as u r... |
| 13:00.52 | ricky_clarkson | jethro: We don't speak teh Knoppix. |
| 13:00.52 | Cure | never mind |
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| 13:00.54 | greycat | jethro: it counts. we don't speak knoppix. |
| 13:00.59 | greycat | Cure: *plonk* |
| 13:01.01 | jm_ | tarzeau: I used to have it, but can't find it here |
| 13:01.03 | tarzeau | Cure: try with cifs instead of smbfs |
| 13:01.10 | nullvoid | jm_: I got all the deb build, should I install now |
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| 13:01.18 | jm_ | nullvoid: well I guess so |
| 13:01.22 | Cure | cifs wont work... somehow not supported |
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| 13:01.28 | Cure | well ok.. |
| 13:01.31 | poison | hmz |
| 13:01.33 | Cure | thanx anyway |
| 13:01.41 | RolandU | hi all! Is 'rar' a proprietary format? |
| 13:01.44 | greycat | 111 on the /ignore list. |
| 13:01.54 | Gathond | RolandU: yes |
| 13:01.54 | greycat | RolandU: /msg dpkg unrar |
| 13:01.55 | jm_ | RolandU: more or less yes |
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| 13:03.02 | poison | Well I'm using at least the debian os |
| 13:03.04 | tralala | !irritate jethro |
| 13:03.05 | rojo | mario guerrero |
| 13:03.05 | dpkg | jethro: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? how can I make my kanotix werkz lol |
| 13:03.13 | jethro | hey tralala :) |
| 13:03.20 | RolandU | so, does that mean that there is no tool in sarge that will unrar everything? |
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| 13:03.27 | greycat | dear god that factoid is annoying. |
| 13:03.28 | tralala | hey, jeth |
| 13:03.31 | jm_ | Sarge has rar |
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| 13:03.46 | tralala | it's supposed to be |
| 13:03.52 | greycat | yeah. it's very effective. |
| 13:04.15 | tralala | :) |
| 13:04.46 | poison | hi guys where can I find more information about my failing hdparm ? |
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| 13:04.54 | greycat | dmesg, perhaps |
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| 13:05.23 | tralala | poison: why would you want to joke around with hdparm? |
| 13:05.24 | poison | heh |
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| 13:05.30 | poison | I got : sending pkt_too_big (len[1500] pmtu[1492]) to self |
| 13:05.32 | poison | in my dmesg |
| 13:05.39 | poison | tralala : because it's failing |
| 13:05.39 | RolandU | so I need to get unrar from non-free? |
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| 13:05.56 | poison | tralala: Timing buffered disk reads: read() failed: Success |
| 13:06.03 | greycat | RolandU: depends on what you need it for, but usually, yes. |
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| 13:06.22 | poison | tralala : my hd is performing really bad |
| 13:06.57 | tralala | poison: did you try to tweak the hdparm options or it just started to fail? |
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| 13:07.08 | poison | tralala: I didn't touch my parameters |
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| 13:07.32 | poison | tralala: I was getting a terrible performance on my webservers (static content server) and I checked hdparm and I got the error |
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| 13:07.55 | tralala | poison: you better backup everything quickly |
| 13:08.01 | greycat | poison: I'd be more worried about the pkt_too_big .... to self error, if I were you. |
| 13:08.09 | tralala | and start looking for a hd offers |
| 13:08.20 | poison | greycat : what's that pkt_too_bit error? |
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| 13:08.32 | greycat | poison: damned if I know, but it sounds like a kernel TCP/IP stack bug to me. |
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| 13:08.51 | Alex | Hello, everyone :) I just did a netinstall of Debian, all went well, but I chose to not configure my mail, and I'd like to go back and see the options. I've fginished the installation, what was the name of the programme that handles the mail configuration? |
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| 13:08.55 | tralala | it could be an indication of a dying hdd |
| 13:09.02 | poison | damnit |
| 13:09.09 | greycat | Alex: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 13:09.15 | Alex | Thanks greycat |
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| 13:09.19 | tralala | indeed |
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| 13:09.42 | greycat | poison: of course, you should have backups *anyway*. |
| 13:09.47 | Alex | greycat: Hmm, yiu're everywhere that I'm looking for help in nowadays |
| 13:09.52 | jethro | !backups |
| 13:09.52 | dpkg | I don't need no steenkin backups However, I'm sure at least two other me's in parallel dimensions do, so I'm probably good to go. Hopefully the other me's in the other dimensions aren't counting on me to keep backups. Those idiots. <SlayerXP> there are two types of people in this world, those who take my advice regarding RAID and backups, and those who cry when they lose their data |
| 13:09.59 | tralala | how old is the drive? for how long did it perform without problems? did you upgrade kernels recently? |
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| 13:10.25 | ricky_clarkson | !backups =~ s/me's/mes/g |
| 13:10.25 | dpkg | OK, ricky_clarkson |
| 13:10.31 | poison | it's a 120 ide one of 3 years old |
| 13:10.38 | poison | never had any problems with it |
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| 13:11.35 | tralala | no.1 and no.2 answered |
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| 13:12.01 | namenick | hi pple, im new to linux, and ive installed debian sarge and everything seems to work fine...but my question is how to do a very minimal install so that i can harden it easier to run a web server... |
| 13:12.04 | KursK | I try to get the font Nimbus Sans in Scribus. Where can I get it? I have in defoma dir entries like /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/N/NimbusMonL-BoldObli.pfb, but that's all I have from Nimbus Sans. Where to get? |
| 13:12.20 | greycat | namenick: download net install ISO. install base system. stop. |
| 13:12.43 | asg | namenick: when the aptitude stupidity shows up, just quit. |
| 13:12.43 | greycat | (when it asks if you want to run tasksel or dselect, don't.) |
| 13:12.47 | tralala | !tell namenick -about harden |
| 13:13.05 | diegosilva | aegaleraentra no#estilu |
| 13:13.11 | greycat | !br |
| 13:13.11 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 13:13.26 | namenick | thank you very much |
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| 13:14.03 | jethro | tralala: are D:SbD and the various harden* packages the same or 2 different things? |
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| 13:14.26 | jethro | if the latter, I think the harden factoid should be corrected |
| 13:14.46 | tralala | jethro: I have absolutely no idea. Never had to run a real server. |
| 13:15.07 | jethro | aight |
| 13:15.41 | RolandU | greycat, thanks, unrar works now. |
| 13:15.44 | jethro | dpkg: harden is also read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 13:15.44 | dpkg | okay, jethro |
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| 13:18.30 | p30n | i got a question about raid and mdadm, i have an array with 4 drives now in raid-0, is it possible to add 2 drives to the array and get more capacity without damaging/changing the contents of the original array ? |
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| 13:19.24 | greycat | raid 0 is a disaster waiting to happen |
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| 13:19.48 | greycat | I don't even know why they call it "raid", since there's no "r". |
| 13:19.51 | ricky_clarkson | reiserfs is a disaster waiting to stop. |
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| 13:21.02 | greycat | maybe they could call it "plaid". pathetic little array of inexpensive disks. |
| 13:21.07 | rAz_ | hello, is there any HARDWARE channel on this irc serveur ? i founded a double scsi disk but i dont manage to set it up |
| 13:21.08 | jethro | hah |
| 13:21.09 | debugger | its normal to run a /etc/init.d script with a start argument and it will always start a new service instance? |
| 13:21.19 | greycat | debugger: yes. |
| 13:21.32 | greycat | unless one's already running, in which case you want "restart" |
| 13:21.36 | debugger | greycat, why doesn't it first check to see if the service is running? |
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| 13:21.46 | greycat | debugger: because you didn't say "restart". |
| 13:22.06 | jethro | debugger: some scripts do, others don't. the system will start them once, it's your responsability if you start them again |
| 13:22.09 | streuner | rAz_: are you running debian? |
| 13:22.18 | rAz_ | yup |
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| 13:23.10 | rAz_ | debian 3.1 kernel 2.4.28 |
| 13:23.12 | davis | hello |
| 13:23.15 | streuner | rAz_: make you load the right module for your scsi controller and add entries to fstab (man fstab) |
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| 13:23.17 | davis | you cant even su - userlogin for some logins |
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| 13:23.29 | debugger | the thing is, I'm running plesk, and their "master" init.d script, starts bind, but there is also a bind init.d script... so I end up with two bind instance... crap.. |
| 13:23.30 | streuner | rAz_: s/make/make sure/ |
| 13:23.33 | rAz_ | at start bios .. i dont manage to recognize it |
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| 13:23.51 | debugger | even crapier is having a init.d script that doesn't check if the service is already running... |
| 13:23.59 | greycat | debugger: so don't run it. |
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| 13:24.04 | greycat | or fix it. |
| 13:24.08 | CasaNova_ | I'm running testing and just realized I have gcc 4.0 but the running (stock) 2.6.11 kernel was compiled against 3.3.6 and vmware doesnt like the kernel and gcc to be different versions. Is ti simply a matter of apt-getting gcc-3.3.6? |
| 13:24.10 | streuner | rAz_: so SCSI isn't recognized in BIOS at all? |
| 13:24.11 | jethro | debugger: make sure init.d/bind9 will not be started (using update-rc.d/rcconf, or whatever) |
| 13:24.19 | streuner | rAz_: controller* |
| 13:24.22 | rAz_ | the 1st drive is ok |
| 13:24.29 | CasaNova_ | Or how do I downgrade from 4.0 gcc to 3.3.6 in testing (is it safe to do?) |
| 13:24.43 | CasaNova_ | Or is there a stock testing kerenel that is compiled with 4.9 gcc? |
| 13:24.44 | greycat | CasaNova_: install gcc-3.3 and adjust the symlink(s) |
| 13:24.47 | CasaNova_ | 4.0 I menat |
| 13:24.47 | DoubleHP | avec gpm, comment avoir un beffur commun a toutes les consoles ? et pas un truc different par console ? |
| 13:24.53 | jethro | !fr |
| 13:24.54 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 13:24.55 | greycat | CasaNova_: linux is broken on gcc 4.0 |
| 13:24.56 | CasaNova_ | meant man fingers all cramped up :-0 |
| 13:24.58 | rAz_ | the controller dont recognize the 1st and the block in same time.. my system is on a scsi hard disk and it is ok |
| 13:25.04 | greycat | CasaNova_: you can't build linux with gcc 4.0 until they fix it. |
| 13:25.05 | jethro | DoubleHP: #debian-fr |
| 13:25.10 | greycat | ("it" being Linux, not gcc.) |
| 13:25.15 | DoubleHP | jethro: oups :S |
| 13:25.23 | DoubleHP | after installing GPM, it seems like I can not copy stuff in console 1, and past it in the 2nd one; how to revert to the old style 2y ago when the buffer was common for all consoles ? |
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| 13:25.32 | CasaNova_ | greycat! great to see you - I assumed 4.0 was all fubar but was really concened about downgrading... |
| 13:25.37 | davis | i am sharing a server with some others folks and it has very weird problems. |
| 13:25.55 | davis | certain users can not login via ssh |
| 13:26.05 | DoubleHP | davis: lucky you I am not one of these folks :) |
| 13:26.07 | jethro | greycat: you mean linux won't build, or will behave strangely? |
| 13:26.12 | ricky_clarkson | CasaNova_: If you purge something, downgrading it shouldn't be a problem, iirc. |
| 13:26.12 | greycat | CasaNova_: no, it's just the kernel being broken (as usual). |
| 13:26.21 | greycat | jethro: fails to build |
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| 13:26.28 | rAz_ | perhaps its is due to the way i connect it badly. |
| 13:26.29 | davis | it seems that if you use a public key authentication you can ssh into the box. But if you enter your passwd you can not. |
| 13:26.30 | jethro | mm |
| 13:26.38 | abrotman | mm good! |
| 13:26.41 | davis | also, certain users can not su - xxx |
| 13:26.53 | abrotman | you want them to become super porn stars? |
| 13:26.54 | rAz_ | is there any jumper to set on a card ? |
| 13:26.57 | nullvoid | virtual_gid_maps = static:103 <---- the 103 is from /etc/group id for postfix? |
| 13:26.59 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: Hah. |
| 13:27.00 | DoubleHP | davis: add them in wheel group, or install sudo |
| 13:27.10 | greycat | rAz_: SCSI drives have an address that's often set by jumpers. |
| 13:27.10 | davis | its worse. |
| 13:27.13 | CasaNova_ | greycat: I have a gcc 3.3 version installed but I believe it is 3.3.4 or .5 and I need 3.3.6 since that is what the kernel was compiled with. Can I choose"apt-get install gcc-3.3.6"? or wiont package mgt let me get that specific |
| 13:27.18 | abrotman | DoubleHP: wheel? |
| 13:27.22 | davis | as root, you can su - troubleduser |
| 13:27.29 | rAz_ | mh i c |
| 13:27.34 | greycat | CasaNova_: rebuild the kernel and then build the modules with that same compiler. |
| 13:27.42 | greycat | CasaNova_: or use stable! |
| 13:27.46 | ricky_clarkson | CasaNova_: apt-get install gcc-3.3=theversionyouwant |
| 13:27.52 | davis | it says su incorrect passwd |
| 13:27.55 | jethro | DoubleHP: wheel is not used by default |
| 13:27.56 | rAz_ | well.. i need to know how to configure jumpers then. :D is there any documentation avalaible you know greycat ? |
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| 13:28.11 | GladeGal | Can anyone tell me the best way to ghost my linux OS onto a CD, so if anyting were to happen... I could simply use this CD to reinstall back to my current setup? |
| 13:28.15 | ricky_clarkson | CasaNova_: Use apt-cache show gcc-3.3 | less to see all the available versions. |
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| 13:28.28 | DoubleHP | abrotman: jethro did that change since 1 year ? I used to use wheel from 2001 to 2004 |
| 13:28.28 | CasaNova_ | greycat: ooohhh oooohhh aw shucks |
| 13:28.34 | p30n | could someone tell me another program to partition disks with other than fdisk |
| 13:28.46 | ricky_clarkson | p30n: cfdisk? ;) |
| 13:28.47 | jethro | DoubleHP: it's not active by default, and commented out |
| 13:28.53 | streuner | rAz_: SCSI controller manual? |
| 13:28.54 | p30n | ricky_clarkson: thanks |
| 13:28.56 | ricky_clarkson | p30n: Partition Magic. |
| 13:28.59 | debugger | greycat, jethro: oh.. the problem is with the bind9 init.d script, when bind is run chroot, the .pid file is created elsewhere, so the start-stop-daemon util fails to see that bind is already running and start it again :| |
| 13:29.03 | rAz_ | yup |
| 13:29.10 | CasaNova_ | ricky_clarkson: Thanks I'll try to get 3.3.6 installed when I get home tonight, thought I'd do some prelim research now. I need vmware to run to pay bills!!! |
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| 13:29.15 | streuner | rAz_: and read your SCSI HD manual |
| 13:29.17 | jethro | DoubleHP: I mean the wheel group does exist, but su allowed to wheel user only is not the default |
| 13:29.28 | greycat | debugger: good find. report it as a bug to whoever wrote the script. |
| 13:30.31 | rAz_ | i dont have |
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| 13:30.39 | cadu | !ipodder |
| 13:30.41 | cadu | have to try :) |
| 13:30.46 | jetscreamer | it's my tab buddy! |
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| 13:30.52 | rAz_ | mh i gt found it on the web well |
| 13:31.14 | cadu | ipodder needs libwxgtk2.5 ...this means i'm done ? (debian only has 2.4 on sarge) |
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| 13:32.12 | kingmike | Hi ! Anyone knows of a driver for the Hauppauge WinTV USB 2 ? |
| 13:32.23 | CasaNova_ | cadu: software like that (if ipodder is what I think) usually resides in testing... :-( or :-) depending on POV |
| 13:32.41 | jethro | hey jetscreamer |
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| 13:34.29 | jetscreamer | libwxgtk2.5 didn't even used to be in sid.. it 'might' be by now |
| 13:34.51 | jetscreamer | it's referenced by a bunch of packages but 'doesn't exist' |
| 13:35.00 | CasaNova_ | cadu: be afraid - be very afraid... |
| 13:35.45 | r3v | jetscreamer: 2.6 is in sid now |
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| 13:36.06 | jetscreamer | yay team |
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| 13:37.05 | p30n | i got a question about raid and mdadm, i have an array with 4 drives now in raid-0, is it possible to add 2 drives to the array and get more capacity without damaging/changing the contents of the original array ? |
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| 13:37.27 | CasaNova_ | Question: If 2.6 is in sid and 2.4 is in stable ... is it a safe bet to assume 2.5 is in testing or is that too dangerous a way to assume... |
| 13:38.14 | dawg | casanova_, that's just crazy talk |
| 13:38.19 | Gathond | CasaNova_: that would have no impact what so ever (version numbers of programs) |
| 13:38.30 | greycat | p30n: *think*. |
| 13:38.37 | greycat | p30n: RAID 0 stripes all the data across the drives. |
| 13:38.40 | stew | CasaNova_: both 2.4 and 2.6 are in both stable and in sid. 2.5 was a development branch that was the predecessor to 2.6 which is now obsolete |
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| 13:39.25 | kelsta | Hello - I think Windows rules |
| 13:39.36 | greycat | and now 2.6 is a development branch too. |
| 13:39.42 | greycat | whee! |
| 13:39.42 | stew | yeah that too |
| 13:39.47 | kelsta | 2.6?! We're on Windows 98 dude! |
| 13:39.49 | kelsta | *98* |
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| 13:39.59 | stew | kelsta: troll elsewhere |
| 13:40.02 | CasaNova_ | AH so the odd ending number is the development - I always forget that defacto standard... |
| 13:40.03 | greycat | kelsta: I thought it was NT 6 |
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| 13:40.15 | stew | CasaNova_: used to be, now 2.6 is the development version |
| 13:40.24 | greycat | CasaNova_: well, you can forget it again, because they changed it! |
| 13:40.33 | greycat | !kernel of instability |
| 13:40.33 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal) |
| 13:40.54 | cadu | CasaNova_: wooooo ^^ |
| 13:41.15 | CasaNova_ | darn darn darn - jus when I think I'm starting to understand this stuff ! drats |
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| 13:41.30 | tarzeau | there's still gnu/kfreebsd |
| 13:41.43 | cadu | !linux kernel is going down |
| 13:41.43 | dpkg | cadu: okay |
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| 13:41.51 | kelsta | sorry about that - i should learn to lock my machine when i get up from my desk |
| 13:42.13 | tosh | I'm trying to get nagios 2.x running. I added a .htaccess and .htpasswd for basic authentication for my nagios pages. this works but nagios can't see my username (it says ?) and I don't have access to anything (no hosts are filled in). it also says in red that I might not have the necessary rights, but in cgi.cfg I put * for all entries |
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| 13:42.31 | CasaNova_ | greycat: I thought the final number (the 11 in 2.6.11 meant development but also the 5 in 2.5 was as well... i think im confused again... :-) |
| 13:42.39 | greycat | CasaNova_: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 |
| 13:42.40 | cadu | tarzeau: ever used gnu/kfreebsd ? |
| 13:42.42 | asg | tosh: did you ask #nagios yet? |
| 13:42.45 | tosh | asg yup |
| 13:42.49 | cadu | #nachos |
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| 13:43.40 | stew | !forget linux kernel |
| 13:43.40 | dpkg | i forgot linux kernel, stew |
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| 13:44.02 | tarzeau | cadu: yes i did |
| 13:44.50 | kamaraju | I am trying to edit http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ . How can I create a new page? It seems like, to create a new page, I have to first put a link to it from existing page and then edit it. That is ridiculous. Why cant we have a new page button just like every other wiki (wiki.debian.net for example)? |
| 13:44.59 | greycat | kamaraju: ask tarzeau! |
| 13:45.19 | tarzeau | kamaraju: read the online help or the moin homepage #moin |
| 13:45.20 | asg | kamaraju: it's locked down because of the spammers |
| 13:45.32 | tarzeau | asg: i created him an account yesternight |
| 13:45.36 | asg | tarzeau: ah |
| 13:45.44 | tarzeau | kamaraju: are you logged in? |
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| 13:45.58 | kamaraju | tarzeau: yes. |
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| 13:46.14 | nullvoid | how can I get sasl2 for postfix? |
| 13:46.29 | tarzeau | kamaraju: and it's the exact same name you told me to add to the editers? |
| 13:46.32 | kamaraju | tarzeau: I finally managed to do that after /msging you. |
| 13:46.49 | CasaNova_ | greycat: Everyday someone gives me a reason to switch back to 2.4 but it just feels so so so Oh I don't know... |
| 13:46.50 | nullvoid | in my ref document it ask to look for smtpd.conf in /etc/postfix/sasl2 but there is none |
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| 13:47.08 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: go 2.4.31: http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/kernel-2.4.31/ |
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| 13:47.27 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: all the modules and things you ever wanted. if it's missing tell me and i'll add it |
| 13:47.28 | greycat | kamaraju: I just got used to it, I guess. You start editing an existing page, add your NewPageName, click "Preview", middle-click your NewPageName to bring it up in another tab, create it there, and meanwhile you can save the original page. |
| 13:47.31 | kamaraju | tarzeau: I logged in as KamarajuKusumanchi. I am able to edit the pages. But creating new pages is a pain. I have to create a link for it first.... |
| 13:47.35 | jetscreamer | there are reasons not to run a 2.6 kernel? |
| 13:47.46 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: yes |
| 13:47.53 | jetscreamer | like... |
| 13:47.58 | greycat | jetscreamer: if you want ide-scsi emulation to work, for one. |
| 13:48.02 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: my secrete, i won't tell you |
| 13:48.12 | kamaraju | greycat: ok. May be I am new here and I am feeling that way. Hopefully I will get used to it. |
| 13:48.40 | stew | nullvoid: you have to create it |
| 13:50.36 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: Looks good, I went to 2.6 when I added a DVDburner and was trying different ways to get it to work. |
| 13:50.43 | greycat | kamaraju: or you can edit the URL in the browser's URL bar. |
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| 13:51.12 | dajhorn | How do you compile the gnat compiler statically from the Debian sources? (ie: `ldd gnat` -> not a dynamic executable`) |
| 13:51.13 | greycat | cross out FronPage, put in NewPage, and voila |
| 13:51.17 | CasaNova_ | I've gone back and forth between ide-scsi and ATAPI: bleah :-Q |
| 13:51.18 | kamaraju | greycat: wow. That is cool. Why did not I think of that. |
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| 13:51.49 | illsci | hey is it bad to mix unstable packages with a stable system.... |
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| 13:51.57 | tarzeau | !bobbitt |
| 13:51.58 | illsci | i want to use the latest enlightenment |
| 13:51.58 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 13:51.59 | asg | illsci: yes |
| 13:52.01 | illsci | ok |
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| 13:52.09 | kamaraju | illsci: In general, yes. |
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| 13:52.10 | namenick | if I only install sarge's base system, how might I go about aquiring a GUI afterwards? |
| 13:52.23 | illsci | so the deal is just use whats in stable and wait for new packages to make it to stable... |
| 13:52.23 | asg | illsci: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 13:52.34 | illsci | im using sarge |
| 13:52.36 | asg | namenick: apt-get install x-window-system-core (and whatever window manager you wish) |
| 13:52.41 | stew | illsci: new packages never get put into stable |
| 13:52.46 | illsci | yeah |
| 13:52.46 | stew | illsci: only security fixes |
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| 13:53.04 | illsci | so..... i would want to run unstable then..? |
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| 13:53.05 | tarzeau | stew: also new versions of existing pacakges go ever stable once it's released |
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| 13:53.13 | tarzeau | illsci: if you want to make packages |
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| 13:53.15 | asg | namenick: if you want a sticky (Gnome, or KDE), /msg dpkg install gnome or /msg dpkg install kde |
| 13:53.18 | CasaNova_ | illsci: testing is more desktop Like... |
| 13:53.21 | tarzeau | illsci: and if you can fix things on your own, without asking here |
| 13:53.28 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: not these days |
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| 13:53.39 | stefanin | how do i set environment variables on boot (editing /etc/profile) doesn't work) ? |
| 13:53.41 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: really howso? |
| 13:53.42 | nullvoid | stew: what is saslauthd in debian? |
| 13:53.47 | tarzeau | stefanin: what shell? |
| 13:53.51 | greycat | !wikifaq stefanin DotFiles |
| 13:53.53 | dpkg | stefanin: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 13:53.56 | CasaNova_ | I have been out of the proverbial loop! |
| 13:53.58 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: no time to explain, believe me. it is so |
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| 13:54.08 | stefanin | bash, I guess... |
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| 13:54.25 | illsci | maybe i should use ubunut then |
| 13:54.26 | illsci | hmm |
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| 13:54.36 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: website or link I can read about changes or problems - DO you mean that testing is too unstable or is no longer the "desktop like" version? |
| 13:54.40 | illsci | i just want a minimal system with the latest enlightenment... |
| 13:54.44 | stew | nullvoid: for postfix you want libsasl2 |
| 13:54.53 | jitendra | Hi .. |
| 13:54.55 | SaneEnglishMonk | [a,at |
| 13:55.01 | stew | nullvoid: and you need the postfix-tls package |
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| 13:55.02 | kamaraju | illsci: Did you try looking at backports? |
| 13:55.03 | abrotman | illsci: you could spend 5 days compiling gentoo |
| 13:55.03 | Unified | hi |
| 13:55.08 | abrotman | !e17 |
| 13:55.08 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
| 13:55.14 | jitendra | is there any IRC channel for toolchain? |
| 13:55.19 | illsci | abrotman it doesnt take 5 days to build gentoo |
| 13:55.23 | illsci | i have a lot of gentoo boxes |
| 13:55.24 | Unified | how i can i prevent a module from loading at boot time? |
| 13:55.30 | illsci | anyway no i didnt look at backports |
| 13:55.31 | asg | Unified: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 13:55.31 | abrotman | illsci: have you built E17 ? :) |
| 13:55.33 | stefanin | will do... |
| 13:55.39 | illsci | its R17 |
| 13:55.40 | kamaraju | Unified: man modconf |
| 13:55.42 | illsci | not E |
| 13:55.49 | illsci | er i see what you mean |
| 13:55.53 | abrotman | illsci: and you gave me no specs for the machine .. i have a 486 at home .. how long will E17 take on that? |
| 13:55.54 | Unified | asg well that's the problem, i have to do it some way via kernel parameters |
| 13:55.56 | greycat | fvwm. you know it's the best. |
| 13:55.59 | Unified | since i can't access the machine at all |
| 13:56.01 | illsci | elightenment R17... |
| 13:56.04 | illsci | anyway whats backports? |
| 13:56.09 | greycat | !backports |
| 13:56.10 | dpkg | it has been said that backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 13:56.17 | CasaNova_ | greycat: ooohhh WM war! |
| 13:56.18 | asg | Unified: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password (use that to get in before the modules are loaded.) |
| 13:56.22 | abrotman | i don't think they've started up again |
| 13:56.29 | RobHu | !windows |
| 13:56.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, windows is from memory, windows is a 32 bit shell on a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system, originally designed for a 4 bit microprocessor, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition, or if it doesn't work there's this little button called "off" on your computer. praying helps too. es una mierda! :), or not on topic here, or see panic(3) |
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| 13:56.43 | nullvoid | stew: the is no postfix-tls in sid |
| 13:56.50 | RobHu | !gcc4 |
| 13:56.55 | asg | Unified: just ignore step #4 and make your modifications as indicated in the blacklist factoid. |
| 13:57.02 | Unified | k thx |
| 13:57.11 | Unified | anyway, what's the module hw_random for? |
| 13:57.20 | greycat | Unified: i810 hardware RNG |
| 13:58.11 | Unified | so it's not that important, right? 'cause thats the module that gives me trouble |
| 13:58.11 | greycat | you can live without it |
| 13:58.11 | stew | nullvoid: then i don't think you'll be able to use sasl with that version of postfix until that is fixed |
| 13:58.11 | stew | nullvoid: unless that package was replaced |
| 13:58.14 | greycat | arc1:~$ /sbin/modinfo hw_random |
| 13:58.16 | greycat | description: "H/W Random Number Generator (RNG) driver" |
| 13:58.22 | stew | nullvoid: why would you run a mail server on sid? |
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| 13:58.41 | greycat | stew: starting to get the *plonk* urge yet? :) |
| 14:00.16 | nullvoid | stew: where can I get authmysqlrc |
| 14:00.23 | nullvoid | it's for my courier-imap |
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| 14:00.34 | stew | nullvoid: apt-get install courier-mysql |
| 14:00.59 | stew | err courier-authmysql |
| 14:01.34 | BusMaster | why doesn;t the sarge repositories have mplayer? is there a way to install it, apart from downloading the src tarball ? |
| 14:01.42 | asg | BusMaster: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 14:01.53 | rAz_ | greycat, i just opened my server and founded on the scsi card a place with 4 pins named "J2" but 4 pin.. |
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| 14:02.11 | yang | Which program can i use for testing the speed of scsi disks? |
| 14:02.12 | rAz_ | i dont have jumper with 4 pins.. |
| 14:02.22 | greycat | rAz_: jumpers on the controller card would have to be documented in the controller's manual. |
| 14:02.45 | greycat | normally you wouldn't touch those |
| 14:02.50 | rAz_ | i tryed to see on the AHA2940 manual but they did certainly a mistake : |
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| 14:03.05 | rAz_ | they call it : led connector |
| 14:03.06 | rAz_ | oO |
| 14:03.37 | greycat | that's where you plug in the led zeppelin 8-track |
| 14:03.47 | rAz_ | haaa :D |
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| 14:04.59 | jetscreamer | 8-track++ |
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| 14:05.45 | rAz_ | u joke ? :D |
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| 14:05.53 | yahya | hi |
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| 14:06.24 | jetscreamer | i remember ted nugent always changed tracks in the middle of 'hammer down' |
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| 14:06.49 | RobHu | yang: Do you mean the performance? bonnie++ ? |
| 14:07.11 | rAz_ | ok i have to rule myself tell me ? |
| 14:07.24 | greycat | jetscreamer: my parents didn't have ted nugent. so the only 8-tracks I had access to, growing up, were things like Ray Stevens |
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| 14:08.04 | jetscreamer | 8-track rewind- |
| 14:08.04 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: i find it best to go stable or unstable (and use testing to fix stuff in unstable, sometimes) |
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| 14:08.13 | bernouli | if i am root, how can i protect a file in user's home being deleted? |
| 14:08.25 | Guerin | greycat: no dead? |
| 14:08.32 | greycat | Guerin: no. |
| 14:08.43 | Guerin | bernouli: back it up |
| 14:08.48 | greycat | Guerin: my mom likes elvis and my dad likes acoustic country |
| 14:09.04 | tarzeau | bernouli: take away ownership and make it readonly to the user |
| 14:09.09 | Guerin | greycat: heh... that must be weird |
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| 14:10.16 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 14:10.16 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 14:10.36 | Guerin | jetscreamer: porquoi? |
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| 14:11.12 | Guerin | jetscreamer: so? |
| 14:11.29 | Guerin | jetscreamer: you do realise that lots of brazilians speak english, eh... |
| 14:11.32 | BusMaster | bernouli, chattr |
| 14:11.58 | greycat | jetscreamer: does it say "dunce" on it? |
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| 14:12.34 | Guerin | greycat: he needs no sign to demonstrate to others that he's a dunce |
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| 14:12.49 | greycat | Guerin: it's about self-knowledge |
| 14:12.53 | jetscreamer | err s/guerin/greycat/ |
| 14:12.54 | bernouli | if i try to delete that file, i get this message: override rw-r--r-- root/user1 for file.txt? |
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| 14:13.10 | greycat | bernouli: so? say yes, or say no. |
| 14:13.23 | jetscreamer | i am an idiot... shame 86% of the earth's population is dumber than i am :( |
| 14:13.38 | Guerin | jetscreamer: i sincerely doubt that |
| 14:13.43 | bernouli | greycat, i want to prevent user to delete that file, but i test log in with user and delete that file, i still can delete it |
| 14:13.50 | jetscreamer | the second part is probably true |
| 14:13.53 | greycat | !wikifaq bernouli Permissions |
| 14:13.54 | dpkg | bernouli: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:14.01 | jetscreamer | and i feel the first part is true.. so... |
| 14:14.08 | jetscreamer | (comparatively) |
| 14:14.14 | pzn | I am trying to use an ELF executable in Debian. I don't have the sources to compile it. It runs in an old (3yearsago) Redhat with old libstdc++ without problems. I want to use Debian. I already copied all the .so files that it links with to a new directory, specified this dir in LD_LIBRARY_PATH. then the program started running, shows the splash screen and segfaults. what else can I do? I wouldn't like to create a full RH chroot in my Debian |
| 14:14.14 | pzn | just to use one important app. any hints? |
| 14:14.24 | bernouli | http://www.linuks.mine. |
| 14:14.25 | greycat | by the way, I have backup copies of DotFiles and Permissions on wooledge.org/mywiki/ |
| 14:15.27 | megabit | can you help me? How can I remove in grub down place - text -Use the ........?? |
| 14:15.39 | megabit | Hi |
| 14:15.44 | greycat | megabit: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub |
| 14:16.08 | CasaNova_ | Everytime I come here I leave feeling like I should be running stable with 2.4 kernel then something happens at home (mp3 player wont work, dvd burner not working etc then I upgrade to testing and 2.6 and the cycle starts again... ) oh well , everyday is school... |
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| 14:16.24 | CasaNova_ | Funny thing is NetHack works in all version! |
| 14:16.32 | jetscreamer | of course |
| 14:16.36 | megabit | greycat, In menu.ls is nothing about this. I think. |
| 14:16.39 | greycat | nethack is older than Linux. |
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| 14:16.46 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: my mp3 burner works. and cd-r too, got no dvd burner |
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| 14:16.59 | greycat | my DVD burner works in 2.4.31 |
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| 14:17.04 | jetscreamer | my burner burns well in 2.6 |
| 14:17.13 | jetscreamer | .11-1.k7 |
| 14:17.15 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: Heck I use your wike and debian setup page for most of my setup... |
| 14:17.20 | tarzeau | how can i change ctrl-a to something else in screen? so nethack in it works better? |
| 14:17.49 | CasaNova_ | I'll really have to give that 2.4.31 a wing.. I'm assuming I'd use ide-scsi for that... (using ATAPI: under 2.6) |
| 14:17.51 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.51 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:18.17 | IO80 | hi all!!! |
| 14:18.22 | greycat | CasaNova_: yes, ide-scsi |
| 14:18.23 | jetscreamer | on a happy note: NO MORE CLICKS OF DEATH!!! \o/ (from the old hd, have nice new bigger stronger faster hd) |
| 14:18.25 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: ata: and atapi: also worked for me on some with 2.4.31 |
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| 14:18.40 | yang | Is there a debian package for using idle CPU, something like SETI |
| 14:18.42 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: manufacturer of the disk? |
| 14:18.46 | greycat | or you can be brave like tarzeau ;-) |
| 14:18.48 | jetscreamer | seagate |
| 14:18.49 | CasaNova_ | tarzeaU: Really ok I did not know that... |
| 14:18.57 | barney_ | i am having trouble installing from the offical dvd binary-1, during the install of the base system i get a debootstap error couldn't download base-system. even by invoking debootstrap manually from the virtual consol (alt+f2) gives me the same response any help would be great thanks |
| 14:18.59 | jetscreamer | yang: seti is in contrib/non-free |
| 14:19.00 | asg | yang: apt-cache show setiathome |
| 14:19.04 | tarzeau | yang: what cpu do you have? |
| 14:19.09 | tarzeau | asg: that's non-free |
| 14:19.14 | yang | tarzeau: lol 100mhz |
| 14:19.20 | jetscreamer | you can apt-get it if you add those to your sources |
| 14:19.27 | asg | tarzeau: yes |
| 14:19.31 | namenick | i downloaded net install ISO, burned it to cd but my BIOS is telling me that this is not a bootable disk... |
| 14:19.31 | jetscreamer | there are others also iirc |
| 14:19.33 | pzn | what can I do to have an ELF file running in Debian? It didn't find all the .so libs, then I copied all the .so files needed and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, now it links, starts running and after some seconds, segfault! what can I do? It runs ok in other linux distro... |
| 14:19.39 | yang | jetscreamer: yes, but i am not interested in SETI, maybe another project |
| 14:19.47 | tarzeau | yang: there's also dnetc |
| 14:19.56 | tarzeau | yang: i386? |
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| 14:20.07 | yang | tarzeau: pa-risc |
| 14:20.10 | jetscreamer | yang i 'think' folding@home works... don't do dnet! (i used to) |
| 14:20.14 | greycat | hmm, I have yang on permanent ignore. maybe I should let him expire...? |
| 14:20.19 | tarzeau | yang: so cool! apollo something? |
| 14:20.20 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: When I am at home I'll have to pick your brain getting dvd burner/other hardware workign with the 2.4.31 (is that apt-gettable or dpkg -i the debs?) |
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| 14:20.27 | saloxin | pzn: you might try apt-cache search stdc |
| 14:20.28 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: i'm away tonight |
| 14:20.34 | megabit | Pleas help me with grub |
| 14:20.35 | asg | greycat: he seems calm at the moment; don't know why you blacklisted him though |
| 14:20.38 | yang | tarzeau: yes, i got 10 apollos :) |
| 14:20.43 | greycat | asg: it was a long time ago |
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| 14:20.54 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: I meant next weekend - pouring concrete porch and finishing remodeling kitchen this weekend! Yay... |
| 14:20.58 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: gnu.ethz.ch/debian/kernel-2.4.31/ no i didn't update the Packages, just download and dpkg -i |
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| 14:21.00 | a1fa | yo |
| 14:21.07 | jetscreamer | couldn't be > 1 yang eh |
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| 14:21.14 | tarzeau | yang: so cool, i've only got one |
| 14:21.15 | greycat | jetscreamer: heh |
| 14:21.23 | a1fa | i am trying to get the deb working on ultra1 sparc, and i get this |
| 14:21.24 | a1fa | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 |
| 14:21.25 | tarzeau | yang: you got a newer one of those? i think OPENSTEP runs on some hp pa |
| 14:21.27 | yang | tarzeau: if you want one, just come and pick it up :) |
| 14:21.29 | a1fa | netinst |
| 14:21.34 | tarzeau | a1fa: 2.6 ? self built? |
| 14:21.39 | a1fa | no.. official |
| 14:21.43 | a1fa | 2.4.27 |
| 14:21.52 | greycat | jetscreamer: this one, at least, is identified. dunno about the other. |
| 14:21.56 | jetscreamer | a1fa: check the symlinks in / to vmlinuz and initrd.img |
| 14:21.57 | tarzeau | yang: where are you? |
| 14:22.02 | a1fa | ARCH: SUN4U |
| 14:22.07 | yang | tarzeau: I have King Gecko 712 60mhz, equal to 100mhz i386 |
| 14:22.16 | yang | tarzeau: EU, Slovenia |
| 14:22.17 | a1fa | jetscreamer : its a netinst boot cd |
| 14:22.22 | jetscreamer | if it's the same as i386 |
| 14:22.26 | jetscreamer | oh.. nm |
| 14:22.31 | a1fa | it is not supposed to load a root parittion |
| 14:22.31 | jetscreamer | i thought it was after |
| 14:22.31 | pzn | saloxin, without using LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and installing debian package libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1, it links and starts working, after some seconds, I get a segfault. any other hint? |
| 14:22.31 | tarzeau | yang: i've got a Bush Master |
| 14:22.34 | a1fa | nah |
| 14:22.38 | barney_ | any ideas? |
| 14:22.41 | pipeline | yang: Install NeXTStep :P |
| 14:22.45 | yang | tarzeau: what is a Bush Master? |
| 14:22.45 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: greycat: again thanks. FOr me 1) get 3.3.6gcc working so I can get vmware working so I can pay bills 2) try to get everything working under 2.4.31 kernel and stable... maybe next weekend for )2 when I have and extra day :-) |
| 14:22.47 | tarzeau | pipeline: yeah, i'd say so too |
| 14:22.52 | tarzeau | yang: an hp pa other model |
| 14:22.57 | tarzeau | yang: i give you url for openstep cd |
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| 14:23.08 | a1fa | i am going to download another cd image |
| 14:23.09 | yang | tarzeau: nah, i just run debian on them |
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| 14:23.18 | tarzeau | yang: but OPENSTEP is cool, www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/ |
| 14:23.22 | jetscreamer | a bushmaster is a type of poisonous snake... there are other definitions of bushmasters |
| 14:23.38 | greycat | jetscreamer: is it anything like a thigh master? |
| 14:24.00 | greycat | "squeeze... squeeze... squeeze your way to leaner firmer bush" |
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| 14:24.06 | jetscreamer | no. my wife has one of those... and 50 billion other workout tools |
| 14:24.12 | a1fa | debian-31r0a-sparc-businesscard.iso <-- i used this image |
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| 14:24.30 | tarzeau | a1fa: why not netboot/netinstall ? |
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| 14:24.34 | a1fa | cd wasted |
| 14:24.45 | jetscreamer | a1fa: i use i386, but i once had bad luck with businesscard image.. try netinst next (or not) |
| 14:24.48 | tarzeau | a1fa: got another debian with tftpd? www.linuks.mine.nu/helpers/tftpboot/ |
| 14:24.52 | Supaplex | dpkg, netsplits-- |
| 14:24.57 | yang | tarzeau: look to me like that WindowMaker |
| 14:25.07 | stdan | hi, i have some problem with my debian: i can't modify any file, uninstall or install packages..please help, thanks |
| 14:25.07 | tarzeau | yang: window maker can only manage windows |
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| 14:25.25 | tarzeau | yang: OPENSTEP is also a kernel (Mach), with alot of apps and developer tools |
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| 14:25.37 | tarzeau | stdan: not stable? |
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| 14:25.41 | yang | tarzeau: this OPENSTEP is an alternative oper. system? |
| 14:25.42 | a1fa | tarzeau : i'm going official |
| 14:25.55 | greycat | stdan: use 'su' to become root. |
| 14:26.05 | stdan | tarzeau: stable |
| 14:26.12 | tarzeau | stdan: how did you manage that? |
| 14:26.13 | stdan | <greycat |
| 14:26.18 | stdan | greycat: i'm root |
| 14:26.22 | tarzeau | yang: it's the best operating system (but not free :) |
| 14:26.26 | stdan | :)) |
| 14:26.30 | tarzeau | yang: i have the url in the bookmark of links2 at home... |
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| 14:26.40 | greycat | stdan: type "mount" and tell us what it says about your root file system |
| 14:26.46 | Bob332 | can someone help me figure out why GDM brings me to a black screen on my new debian install? |
| 14:26.49 | a1fa | mornin' greycat |
| 14:26.53 | tarzeau | yang: ah found it: ftp://ftp.sunwizard.net/pub/MiscOS/NeXT/OpenStep/ |
| 14:27.00 | greycat | Bob332: does startx work if you disable gdm? |
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| 14:27.01 | stdan | /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 14:27.01 | stdan | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 14:27.01 | stdan | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) |
| 14:27.05 | stdan | tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) |
| 14:27.05 | stdan | /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) |
| 14:27.07 | tarzeau | and that's OPENSTEP for on solairs ftp://ftp.sunwizard.net/pub/SunSoft/OpenStep/ |
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| 14:27.10 | a1fa | evil paste |
| 14:27.20 | saloxin | Bob332: broken X config. boot into single mode and adapt config :-) |
| 14:27.23 | jetscreamer | !xwontstart |
| 14:27.23 | dpkg | modprobe mousedev sometimes helps, or looking at the log in /var/log sometimes helps too |
| 14:27.25 | greycat | stdan: ok, then what error are you getting? |
| 14:27.29 | jetscreamer | !nodm |
| 14:27.29 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 14:27.41 | Bob332 | greycat, startx says X11 not installed? |
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| 14:28.07 | stdan | greycat: when i open a file to modify(any file) i get an error when i save "Cannot save file." |
| 14:28.14 | yang | tarzeau: I could run also HP-UX there, but i am not really interested, debian is enough pain for me :) |
| 14:28.15 | jetscreamer | try apt-get install x-window-system |
| 14:28.36 | CasaNova_ | I would have thought apt-get install Xdm would install X as a dependency?! |
| 14:28.36 | greycat | stdan: type this: touch /foo |
| 14:28.38 | Bob332 | saloxin, what configs do i need to adapt? |
| 14:28.48 | jetscreamer | yeah you would think that |
| 14:28.49 | stew | Bob332: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 14:28.52 | a1fa | !sparc |
| 14:28.52 | dpkg | [sparc] the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
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| 14:29.03 | jetscreamer | i know i thought that, or similar |
| 14:29.05 | stdan | greycat: touch: cannot touch `/foo': Read-only file system |
| 14:29.08 | tarzeau | yang: OPENSTEP is much less pain than HP-UX or debian |
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| 14:29.25 | greycat | stdan: hmm... then it's very strange that mount said /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 14:29.25 | a1fa | cramfs: wrong magic |
| 14:29.28 | jetscreamer | !remount |
| 14:29.29 | tarzeau | yang: TEH INTERNET (web browser) was developed on NeXTSTEP! |
| 14:29.34 | a1fa | what a hell is wrong magic |
| 14:29.35 | Bob332 | stew, it says it already exists |
| 14:29.36 | a1fa | god damn it |
| 14:29.38 | greycat | stdan: in any case, you need to fsck /dev/hda3 and then (probably) reboot |
| 14:29.47 | a1fa | dont you just love creative kernel errors |
| 14:29.58 | a1fa | your butthole is notworking, please restart |
| 14:30.13 | jetscreamer | i had wrong magic once.. i forget |
| 14:30.16 | greycat | a1fa: magic refers to the arbitrary magic numbers that identify what kind of file something is. |
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| 14:30.23 | vortek | ehlo... |
| 14:30.25 | vortek | :) |
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| 14:30.32 | a1fa | greycat : this is on sparc.. i am not able to boot netinst |
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| 14:30.33 | stew | Bob332: but startx says x isn't installed? what exactly does it say? |
| 14:30.37 | greycat | a1fa: e.g. Ogg Vorbis files start with "OggS" |
| 14:30.44 | a1fa | greycat : cramfs: wrong magic |
| 14:30.44 | yang | tarzeau: erm, so which one do you mean exactly becouse there are 3 GNUstep NEXTstep OPENstep |
| 14:30.45 | a1fa | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 |
| 14:30.52 | greycat | a1fa: I can't help with sparc issues |
| 14:30.59 | vortek | Does any one kow of a good program that will resume ftp or http downloads ? Becuase im treing to dl the kernel source from a crapy dial up that boots about every hour or so |
| 14:31.05 | a1fa | why does netinst have to load root fs? |
| 14:31.06 | greycat | vortek: wget |
| 14:31.07 | stew | vortek: wget -c |
| 14:31.11 | jetscreamer | wget -c vortek |
| 14:31.12 | vortek | thanxs bros |
| 14:31.12 | a1fa | when there is no root fs |
| 14:31.14 | Bob332 | stew, that was my mistake, start x only says this: Fatal server error: |
| 14:31.14 | Bob332 | Server is already active for display 0 |
| 14:31.17 | abrotman | vortek: wget / gwget for the GUI impaired |
| 14:31.17 | vortek | will that work with kernel.org |
| 14:31.23 | greycat | vortek: should. |
| 14:31.24 | vortek | abrotman lol |
| 14:31.26 | vortek | thanxs |
| 14:31.32 | jetscreamer | Bob332: alt+F7 do anything? |
| 14:31.35 | stew | Bob332: that means it is already running, try hitting ctrl-alt-f7 |
| 14:31.37 | Caelum | vortek: also ncftp and lftp will do resumes, but wget is automatic, you can put it in a while loop |
| 14:31.45 | jetscreamer | yes vortek if you supply the url after the command |
| 14:31.46 | stdan | greycat: /dev/hda3 contains a file system with errors, check forced...Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes |
| 14:31.53 | greycat | wget is "automatic" if you used -c. |
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| 14:32.15 | vortek | thanxs |
| 14:32.17 | a1fa | greycat : cdboot, netinst -> why does it have to load fs and from where? cdrom? |
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| 14:32.23 | a1fa | doesnt it load root from cdrom? |
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| 14:32.31 | greycat | a1fa: I don't know how a sparc netboot works |
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| 14:32.40 | jetscreamer | i let fsck 'fix' a partition once.... wound up low level formatting the hd |
| 14:32.41 | a1fa | not net bood, cdboot->netinst |
| 14:32.47 | namenick | im installing debian and im at the point that i want to write partition changes to disk...but its telling me to erase target disk before continuing...how might I do this within the installer? |
| 14:32.48 | vortek | one last question any one know where I can get the latest k7 kernel ? The stable ones lock up on this laptop its a duron and bios wont let me turn acpi off |
| 14:32.51 | a1fa | any cd boot |
| 14:32.52 | greycat | jetscreamer: then the data was already toast. |
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| 14:33.07 | stew | vortek: what version of debian? |
| 14:33.07 | vortek | I mean like an actualy url |
| 14:33.24 | greycat | vortek: which ones locked up? |
| 14:33.25 | jetscreamer | greycat: somehow it detected either the geometry or the fstype incorrectly.. was a long time ago |
| 14:33.31 | Caelum | a1fa: you have to type "boot cdrom" in the prom menu |
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| 14:33.36 | amorphix | bonjour |
| 14:33.41 | a1fa | dude |
| 14:33.46 | amorphix | oui? |
| 14:33.53 | a1fa | Caelum : it is pass initrd, punk |
| 14:33.54 | greycat | amorphix: pip pip cheerio |
| 14:33.57 | jetscreamer | !fr |
| 14:33.57 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 14:34.00 | amorphix | thanks |
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| 14:34.09 | amorphix | sorry i need the fr channel |
| 14:34.20 | jetscreamer | yes i know he srckens de anglish |
| 14:34.38 | jetscreamer | spreckens |
| 14:34.49 | a1fa | Caelum : it is trying to load root fs, and it fails |
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| 14:35.01 | a1fa | cramfs: wrong magic |
| 14:35.02 | a1fa | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 |
| 14:35.06 | vortek_ | one last question any one know where I can get the latest k7 kernel ? The stable ones lock up on this laptop its a duron and bios wont let me turn acpi off |
| 14:35.15 | Caelum | a1fa: sorry, which iso are you using? it won't load anything if it can boot the cd but doesn't support the cdrom in the kernel |
| 14:35.18 | stew | a1fa: how did you install this kenrel? |
| 14:35.19 | vortek_ | one last question any one know where I can get the latest k7 kernel ? The stable ones lock up on this laptop its a duron and bios wont let me turn acpi off |
| 14:35.20 | jetscreamer | vortek: pdo |
| 14:35.20 | vortek_ | woops |
| 14:35.25 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 14:35.25 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 14:35.26 | a1fa | Caelum : offician letinst |
| 14:35.30 | vortek_ | ahh word |
| 14:35.31 | vortek_ | thanxs |
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| 14:35.36 | vortek_ | sorry bout the up enter |
| 14:35.39 | a1fa | stew : its netinstall.. cd boot |
| 14:35.40 | jetscreamer | you can get the 2.6.12 source out of sid |
| 14:35.42 | vortek_ | thanxs bros |
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| 14:35.49 | jetscreamer | also kernel.org |
| 14:35.50 | vortek_ | time to optimize this lappy |
| 14:35.54 | vortek_ | word |
| 14:36.09 | jetscreamer | sid has debian patches |
| 14:36.10 | stew | a1fa: which kernel? 2.4 or 2.6, which netinstall? sarge or etch? |
| 14:36.14 | jetscreamer | kernel.org may not |
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| 14:36.37 | Briaj | hi all |
| 14:36.41 | gabry | I try to launch wmaker in debian but I have for answer "unable to launch display "" |
| 14:36.46 | vortek_ | k |
| 14:36.47 | gabry | Help me !!! |
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| 14:36.56 | jetscreamer | !xwontstart |
| 14:36.56 | dpkg | modprobe mousedev sometimes helps, or looking at the log in /var/log sometimes helps too |
| 14:36.58 | greycat | gabry: echo wmaker >> ~/.xsession; startx |
| 14:37.12 | gabry | whot means ?!?!? |
| 14:37.26 | a1fa | stew : official netinst 2.4.27 |
| 14:37.28 | greycat | man echo; man startx |
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| 14:37.43 | stew | a1fa: have you tried the 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:37.50 | gabry | why I'll do man echo ?!?! |
| 14:37.56 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 14:38.00 | marco__ | hi, i'd like to run vmware on my knoppix (debian based). where can i find the sources? |
| 14:38.03 | Caelum | a1fa: I dunno, maybe try a newer 2.6 image, there's a sparc install guide on debian.org somewhere too |
| 14:38.16 | ^slacker^ | I've got a 1TB RAID array that recently corrupted with reiserfs. is there a better fs for such a large disk space? any suggestions? |
| 14:38.22 | Caelum | a1fa: maybe you need the right root= option |
| 14:38.26 | a1fa | hm |
| 14:38.27 | stew | !vmware support |
| 14:38.27 | dpkg | somebody said vmware support was not offered here; go to <http://vmware.com/support> instead. |
| 14:38.34 | a1fa | Caelum : and put what? |
| 14:38.45 | yang | jetscreamer: i can only find package setiathome for idle CPUs |
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| 14:39.26 | jetscreamer | yang: all i know ( i kinda fell out of the disturbuted computing scene) |
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| 14:39.37 | greycat | disturbed computing? :) |
| 14:39.42 | jetscreamer | ya :) |
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| 14:40.20 | Caelum | a1fa: this may help: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/04/msg00565.html |
| 14:40.37 | jetscreamer | yang: i could swear i've seen a different package available, other than seti, but no idea |
| 14:40.45 | jetscreamer | (in debian sources) |
| 14:40.58 | greycat | I just use dnetc's client without it being a .deb |
| 14:41.00 | Caelum | a1fa: if the old iso works, you can easily upgrade later |
| 14:41.22 | stew | a1fa: check debian-installer in the bts too |
| 14:41.29 | greycat | [Aug 26 12:34:48 UTC] OGR-P2: Summary: 5 packets (690.89 stats units) |
| 14:41.30 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:41.36 | yang | jetscreamer: well, those which are nice are usually just for windows... |
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| 14:42.30 | a1fa | aight |
| 14:42.32 | a1fa | thanks man |
| 14:42.40 | jetscreamer | a1fa you tried a daily? http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/sparc/current/ |
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| 14:42.56 | abrotman | or he could ask -boot ? |
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| 14:43.17 | jetscreamer | /join #debian-boot , good idea |
| 14:43.17 | greycat | or -sparc |
| 14:43.20 | abrotman | a1fa: http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstallerToday |
| 14:43.30 | abrotman | a1fa: there's an option for the dailys that they need to boot |
| 14:43.30 | wols | kuhndog:try the one in incoming/kuhndog acad |
| 14:43.41 | wols | damn, wrong channel |
| 14:43.47 | abrotman | of course .. you knew that because you read extensively before trying a daily :) |
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| 14:44.29 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 14:44.33 | jetscreamer | !lart me |
| 14:45.22 | amorphix | Is there anyone using 9online in FR here? I would like to ask a small favour |
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| 14:45.43 | a1fa | i allready wasted 2 cds :P |
| 14:45.43 | amorphix | someone in FR using 9online is unable to access my server, I'd like to see if this is a problem with 9online in general, can someone accesss my server and check? |
| 14:45.48 | a1fa | i wonder how many will i waste |
| 14:46.05 | stew | a1fa: time to invest in a few cdrw's |
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| 14:46.07 | amorphix | alfa at least you now have 2 coasters for your coffee |
| 14:46.07 | greycat | get a CD-RW |
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| 14:46.17 | stew | amorphix: the make crappy coasters |
| 14:46.21 | abrotman | a1fa: i heard they made these things .. CDRWs .. you can use them more than once .. unbelievable! |
| 14:46.30 | jetscreamer | cd's suck as coasters, they have a hole... :( |
| 14:46.39 | jetscreamer | cd-r is cheap though |
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| 14:46.47 | ricky_clarkson | jetscreamer: Why does that matter? |
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| 14:46.57 | a1fa | stew : :P |
| 14:47.07 | a1fa | they are company's cdrs |
| 14:47.07 | ricky_clarkson | "These tyres are crap, there's air inside them!" |
| 14:47.08 | greycat | maybe he leaves it on the coaster for hours |
| 14:47.10 | LordLamer | hi. hat schon jemand e17 laufen unter debian sarge? hat davielleicht auch jemand debs? |
| 14:47.11 | a1fa | i dont "care" :P |
| 14:47.16 | LordLamer | sorry |
| 14:47.19 | LordLamer | wrong channel |
| 14:47.20 | a1fa | i am trying to be efficient and not waste ;P |
| 14:47.23 | jetscreamer | ricky_clarkson: might ruin my nice all natural wood veneer of my desk |
| 14:47.25 | Caelum | they are fun to put in the microwave |
| 14:47.28 | a1fa | LordLamer : ASL? |
| 14:47.32 | ricky_clarkson | LordLamer: Nederlands? |
| 14:47.33 | jetscreamer | !de |
| 14:47.33 | dpkg | rumour has it, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
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| 14:48.10 | ricky_clarkson | !factinfo de |
| 14:48.10 | dpkg | de -- created by RichiH <richih@richih.usercloak.freenode> at Sun Sep 7 14:05:18 2003 (719 days); it has been requested 250 times, last by jetscreamer, 37s ago. |
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| 14:48.18 | a1fa | i got an ultra1 with quad ethernet card |
| 14:48.21 | a1fa | :P |
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| 14:48.31 | a1fa | makes a reall good FW-1 firewall :P |
| 14:48.40 | a1fa | if you have the source ;P |
| 14:48.46 | jetscreamer | hey my ditinguishing_between_german_and_dutch_skills suck |
| 14:49.17 | jetscreamer | s/ditinguishing_between_german_and_dutch_skills/distinguishing_between_german_and_dutch_skills/ |
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| 14:49.37 | ricky_clarkson | jetscreamer: Looks like mine rock then. ;) |
| 14:50.07 | jetscreamer | my foreign_language_skills suck |
| 14:50.08 | ricky_clarkson | jetscreamer: The German word for German is Deutsch. The German word for Dutch is Deutsch. They consider the Netherlands to be part of Germany, imperialistic bastards. |
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| 14:50.23 | a1fa | lol |
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| 14:50.42 | a1fa | deutschland uber alles |
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| 14:50.46 | a1fa | ;! |
| 14:50.50 | jhares | I tried to update my packages but it went wrong, now i'm not able even to install new packages. aptitude says: http://jhares.wz.cz/aptitude |
| 14:50.54 | ricky_clarkson | What's alles? |
| 14:51.00 | a1fa | all |
| 14:51.09 | ricky_clarkson | Germany over all. |
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| 14:51.13 | greycat | even *I* knew that. |
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| 14:51.18 | a1fa | germany above all |
| 14:51.20 | Caelum | you have to see the producers |
| 14:51.32 | ricky_clarkson | Das ist uber meine kopf. |
| 14:51.38 | a1fa | ehhaha |
| 14:51.47 | a1fa | meinen deutsch ist sehr schelth |
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| 14:51.50 | a1fa | scleht* |
| 14:51.56 | ricky_clarkson | sheisse. |
| 14:51.59 | a1fa | schlamphe |
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| 14:52.13 | a1fa | :P i used to know german.. 4 years ago |
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| 14:52.23 | ricky_clarkson | I used to date a German. |
| 14:52.26 | nkuttler | actually, the netherlands are Niederlande |
| 14:52.26 | a1fa | now i know espanol |
| 14:52.34 | ricky_clarkson | nkuttler: And Dutch? |
| 14:52.37 | nkuttler | and the language is Niederlaendisch |
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| 14:52.50 | ricky_clarkson | a1fa: hablo espanol. |
| 14:52.52 | nkuttler | your chick was a wierdo |
| 14:52.59 | ricky_clarkson | nkuttler: Usually. |
| 14:53.06 | a1fa | yo habla espanol |
| 14:53.13 | jetscreamer | i can sell you things in spanish, and ask directions to the bathroom! |
| 14:53.13 | greycat | a1fa: not very well apparently |
| 14:53.13 | berkes | hey there. |
| 14:53.13 | a1fa | que paso? |
| 14:53.16 | ricky_clarkson | a1fa: "I you speak Spanish" |
| 14:53.26 | a1fa | ricky_clarkson : i never said i speak good |
| 14:53.30 | a1fa | i picked it up from soap.net |
| 14:53.30 | wols | ricky_clarkson: your german is crap. and no, ew don't consider the netherlands as german |
| 14:53.35 | jhares | join #debian-cs |
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| 14:53.41 | greycat | I prefer not to. |
| 14:53.44 | wols | they have their own language called "hollaendisch" in german |
| 14:53.46 | jetscreamer | debian-counterstrike? |
| 14:53.52 | a1fa | hahaha |
| 14:53.52 | a1fa | :P |
| 14:53.55 | ricky_clarkson | wols: I was told this by someone from Baden-Wortemburg. |
| 14:53.59 | a1fa | csrmit: source > * |
| 14:54.00 | nkuttler | dutch is a germanic language |
| 14:54.04 | a1fa | cs : source > * |
| 14:54.05 | wols | ricky_clarkson: Baden Württemberg |
| 14:54.09 | afaict | jetscreamer, whats debian-counterstrike? |
| 14:54.21 | wols | which is the place I am right now (born here too) |
| 14:54.22 | berkes | nkuttler: yea, and american is not english :) but sillyness |
| 14:54.24 | jetscreamer | afaict: a joke (debian-cs) |
| 14:54.30 | ricky_clarkson | wols: Don't you know the English translation? ;) |
| 14:54.38 | afaict | jetscreamer, mm... |
| 14:54.44 | wols | translation for what? |
| 14:54.49 | jetscreamer | a 'crummy' joke, ok |
| 14:54.53 | ricky_clarkson | Wu:rttemberg |
| 14:55.06 | ricky_clarkson | Putty's font is missing the 'u:' thing. |
| 14:55.09 | wols | nkuttler: dutch is a mix between english and german yes. but it's still a distinct language |
| 14:55.14 | greycat | ü |
| 14:55.20 | jetscreamer | why isn't it spelled 'crumby' |
| 14:55.26 | berkes | guys/gals, Ive gor a serious problem. My server when booboo when I was upgrading, and now my SSH is foobar. |
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| 14:55.34 | wols | we have umlauts in germany, bu irc can't display them properly across codepages |
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| 14:55.37 | greycat | jetscreamer: don't be a dumby! |
| 14:55.41 | berkes | So fixing stuff isnt really possible. |
| 14:55.43 | jetscreamer | ooo great bug report |
| 14:55.47 | ricky_clarkson | wols: UTF-8 |
| 14:55.59 | berkes | Does anyone here know some trick to get around ssh? |
| 14:56.03 | wols | ricky_clarkson: irc can't deal with utf-8, at least it's not in the rfc |
| 14:56.03 | alistair | i need help, i've messed up my XF86Config-4 but i have a backup, what is the commands to delete my current and rename the backup??? |
| 14:56.09 | ricky_clarkson | There are some umlauts in English too. naive is supposed to have an umlaut on the 'i'. |
| 14:56.22 | ricky_clarkson | wols: Most non-mirc clients can. |
| 14:56.25 | vortek_ | man How do you get lynx to let you download a package from packages.debian.org :P |
| 14:56.25 | jetscreamer | alistair: as root, cp.. but... |
| 14:56.29 | jetscreamer | !xmd5 |
| 14:56.30 | wols | but I'm sure they aren't at the same place in codepages... |
| 14:56.30 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 14:56.30 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: you almost never see it in any recent books, though |
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| 14:56.44 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: True. |
| 14:57.02 | jetscreamer | vortek: for me, i just highlight the link and hit enter, and it asks |
| 14:57.07 | alistair | cp yeah go on? |
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| 14:57.15 | alistair | jet, i wanted the answer to rename the backup =/ |
| 14:57.31 | berkes | does anyone here know some tricks to execute commands on a server w/o ssh access? |
| 14:57.41 | jetscreamer | cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.backup /etc/X11/XF86-4 |
| 14:57.44 | greycat | berkes: walk up to it and login. |
| 14:57.45 | Caelum | berkes: go to the console |
| 14:57.46 | maher | berkes: what sort of access do you have to the server? |
| 14:57.47 | jetscreamer | then do the md5 thing |
| 14:57.49 | vortek_ | k |
| 14:58.09 | AciD | hi, do you know if the xserver-xorg (6.8.2.dfsg.1-5) or xorg-common (6.8.2-10) has been compiled with the dlloader feature activated ? |
| 14:58.14 | berkes | I am in the netehrlands and the server is in italy. walking is too far :p |
| 14:58.20 | berkes | its a debian VPS. |
| 14:58.43 | berkes | maher: I had any access, but did everything over SSH |
| 14:58.44 | stew | what is VPS? |
| 14:58.54 | berkes | virtual private server. |
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| 14:59.15 | jetscreamer | i have rhel 3.0 on my vps :( |
| 14:59.22 | alistair | ok im left with the .bak file, how can i rename that? |
| 14:59.33 | Caelum | berkes: does the hosting place have any services to reboot/fix stuff? because there isn't really anything you can do |
| 14:59.36 | jetscreamer | mv blah.what blah.other |
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| 14:59.43 | alistair | mv? |
| 14:59.45 | maher | berkes: ask the admins to help you out - my vps gives me console access so i can fix things like that... |
| 14:59.46 | jetscreamer | ya |
| 14:59.47 | berkes | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vps stew |
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| 15:00.09 | stew | berkes: if its a virtual private server, then someone should have access to a virtual console |
| 15:00.09 | jetscreamer | aka mv this that |
| 15:00.18 | alistair | mv has deleted it, thank you :) |
| 15:00.22 | jhares | pls know anybody why i can't update system: http://jhares.wz.cz/aptitude |
| 15:00.26 | alistair | fuck. |
| 15:00.27 | berkes | maher: hmm. now that is the whole problem. Its a cheapass server, without support :$ |
| 15:00.33 | jetscreamer | renamed it |
| 15:00.50 | jetscreamer | mv doesn't delete |
| 15:00.59 | berkes | stew: yea. I was afraid that that was the only option. |
| 15:01.00 | alistair | thank you very much |
| 15:01.02 | alistair | its gone |
| 15:01.05 | alistair | i cant fucking see it |
| 15:01.08 | alistair | i did |
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| 15:01.16 | nkuttler | alistair: what command did you use? |
| 15:01.18 | jetscreamer | what was the exact command |
| 15:01.18 | alistair | mv /etc/X11/filename newfilename |
| 15:01.20 | alistair | :) thanks |
| 15:01.20 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 15:01.22 | jetscreamer | jinx |
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| 15:01.35 | alistair | where is it gone then? |
| 15:01.43 | a1fa | http://photos1.blogger.com/img/117/2593/640/tritonr4yl.jpg |
| 15:01.47 | a1fa | i am buying a scooter |
| 15:01.48 | jetscreamer | it's in the current dir you executed the command from, or in / |
| 15:01.49 | nkuttler | alistair: it's called newfilename now |
| 15:01.52 | a1fa | anybody have any debian stickers :P |
| 15:01.52 | alistair | im going to have to fucking reinstall debian now, thank you jet. |
| 15:01.54 | stew | alistair: its in . |
| 15:01.58 | jetscreamer | you must supply the full path when not in the dir |
| 15:02.02 | stew | alistair: no you aren't |
| 15:02.03 | jetscreamer | alistair: pay attention |
| 15:02.08 | stumbles | hi folks, i'm installing sarge off CD and was just wondering why i didn't get the option of using grub - it went straight to lilo |
| 15:02.17 | alistair | when i renamed it, i didnt put a dir in front |
| 15:02.17 | jetscreamer | ex: mv /etc/blah /etc/blah.what |
| 15:02.23 | alistair | i put |
| 15:02.28 | alistair | mv /etc/blah filename |
| 15:02.29 | jetscreamer | ok so it's either in your current dir, or uned / |
| 15:02.36 | jetscreamer | under / |
| 15:02.36 | stew | alistair: then its in . aka $PWD |
| 15:02.38 | alistair | so where can i find it? |
| 15:02.41 | jetscreamer | ls / ls |
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| 15:02.45 | jetscreamer | ls / or ls |
| 15:02.49 | jetscreamer | it's one or the other |
| 15:02.57 | alistair | yep its under / |
| 15:02.59 | Dragon-Eater | I got like 66 tasks running anyone a idea how to reduce them? |
| 15:02.59 | alistair | ls i mean |
| 15:03.02 | alistair | phew.. |
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| 15:03.06 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: don't. |
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| 15:03.15 | jetscreamer | so mv /blah /etc/X11/blah |
| 15:03.16 | Dragon-Eater | Tasks: 66 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 13 stopped, 0 zombie |
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| 15:03.24 | jetscreamer | paths are important |
| 15:03.24 | alistair | HUH |
| 15:03.27 | alistair | its under ls, not ls / |
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| 15:03.31 | Dragon-Eater | but whats the use of 66 tasks? |
| 15:03.32 | tosh | anyone that's running nagios and can tell me what kind of authentication they use when accessing the nagios stat webpages? |
| 15:03.43 | jetscreamer | ok so mv blah /etc/X11/ |
| 15:03.46 | jetscreamer | that works too |
| 15:03.51 | alistair | mv? will that move it? |
| 15:03.54 | jetscreamer | ya |
| 15:03.57 | Dragon-Eater | i mean even windows uses less and debian isnt even a DESKTOP but a SERVER :/ |
| 15:03.59 | rking | tosh: HTTP auth (?) |
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| 15:04.12 | tosh | rking basic auth? with a .htaccess and .htpasswd file? |
| 15:04.18 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: this ain't windows. |
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| 15:04.25 | Dragon-Eater | greycat i know that |
| 15:04.27 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: what does your "uptime" say? |
| 15:04.27 | Dragon-Eater | but tell me |
| 15:04.31 | rking | tosh: are you asking about getting -into- the nagios pages, or are you talking about the pages that its pinging? |
| 15:04.33 | calyth | if I tar cvjf on a file system that I'm tarring, would that lead to problems? |
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| 15:04.43 | greycat | what's your load average? what performance bottlenecks are you experiencing? |
| 15:04.44 | Dragon-Eater | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.48 | greycat | no load. |
| 15:04.52 | greycat | it's FINE. |
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| 15:04.56 | greycat | leave it the hell alone! |
| 15:05.08 | tosh | rking to get into the nagios stats pages, I configured basic auth, but when I login nagios sees my user as "?" |
| 15:05.21 | Dragon-Eater | but i dont like so money processes wich i dont even know of why in god they are on |
| 15:05.22 | stew | 66 is not man proceses |
| 15:05.29 | stew | many* |
| 15:05.44 | Dragon-Eater | :/ |
| 15:05.45 | jetscreamer | i see > 2000 under xp |
| 15:05.46 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: if you want to know what they do, read their man pages. |
| 15:05.49 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: this isn't windows. |
| 15:05.55 | jetscreamer | not atm, it's somebody elses box |
| 15:05.59 | tarzeau | yang: OPENSTEP |
| 15:06.00 | Dragon-Eater | i aint saying that greycat... |
| 15:06.08 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: unlike windows, we have *documentation* |
| 15:06.09 | Dragon-Eater | kjournald |
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| 15:06.17 | Dragon-Eater | windows have documentation too :/ |
| 15:06.22 | jethro | !lart Dragon-Eater |
| 15:06.26 | tosh | greycat and can kill the services if we wanted to |
| 15:06.27 | jetscreamer | technet is cool |
| 15:06.30 | Dragon-Eater | !smash jethro |
| 15:06.31 | Gathond | Dragon-Eater: 66 processes is an effect of the unix philosophy of using small utils that does one task and does it well vs the windows one of having one program do it all |
| 15:06.34 | greycat | well, we don't have kernel documentation unfortunately, so kjournald won't be in the man pages :( |
| 15:06.39 | jetscreamer | hahaha |
| 15:06.39 | rking | tosh: i'm not sure i understand your problem exactly, but i do know that when i log into nagios, it gives me the browser's popup window responding to HTTP 301 unauthorized... so basic http auth. how nagios is implemented, i'm not sure... i'd assume it's normal apache+.htpasswd+.htaccess |
| 15:06.42 | tosh | no "no access" when trying to kill a service even when you're admin |
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| 15:06.52 | Dragon-Eater | ok |
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| 15:06.55 | Dragon-Eater | tell me |
| 15:06.59 | tosh | rking did you have to setup the .ht* files yourself? |
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| 15:07.02 | Dragon-Eater | where i can find a documentation of the processes? |
| 15:07.06 | stumbles | is it possible that grub cannot handle having /boot in LVM? |
| 15:07.13 | greycat | k = kernel, journal = the file system's journal, d = daemon |
| 15:07.14 | alistair | phew.. |
| 15:07.22 | alistair | does anybody know how to disable mouse acceleration? |
| 15:07.23 | rking | tosh: i didn't set up this nagios install, is what i should have said at first - another feller at my company did |
| 15:07.30 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: all the USER-space processes will have man pages. |
| 15:07.33 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: getty, init, etc. |
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| 15:07.37 | debian707 | hi |
| 15:07.38 | tosh | rking I see |
| 15:07.53 | debian707 | any one knows where can i change the name server? |
| 15:07.53 | jetscreamer | alistair: man XF86Config-4, it should be there somewhere |
| 15:07.53 | Dragon-Eater | No manual entry for kjournald |
| 15:08.05 | greycat | because that's a kernel thread |
| 15:08.08 | jetscreamer | resolv.conf iirc debian707 |
| 15:08.15 | Dragon-Eater | No manual entry for khubd |
| 15:08.20 | greycat | and the Linux kernel threads aren't documented. they aren't even consistent across versions. |
| 15:08.27 | Gathond | Dragon-Eater: actually I would think windows also have several more processes than it shows in the process viewer thing, since its a microkernel like design |
| 15:08.27 | debian707 | jetscreamer ok |
| 15:08.33 | jethro | !fgi Dragon-Eater whatis+kjournald |
| 15:08.34 | dpkg | Dragon-Eater: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=whatis+kjournald |
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| 15:08.40 | jetscreamer | /etc/resolv.conf that is |
| 15:08.45 | Dragon-Eater | Gathond yeah true |
| 15:08.49 | Dragon-Eater | windows runs services |
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| 15:09.01 | Ungy | Windows stumbles over services |
| 15:09.03 | debian707 | jetscreamer thats to change the name from a server? |
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| 15:09.14 | Gathond | Dragon-Eater: and so does linux, those ksomething processes are likely the kernels |
| 15:09.22 | pwned | what happened to celestia? I switched from stable to testing repository and there is no more celestia. And nothing alike. |
| 15:09.24 | jetscreamer | debian707: you want to change your nameserver, or the name of your server? |
| 15:09.32 | Ungy | Gathond true true |
| 15:09.36 | jethro | debian707: to change the name of your system, you use hostname(1) |
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| 15:09.50 | debian707 | jetscreamer the name from my server |
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| 15:09.58 | debian707 | jethro oh ok |
| 15:10.03 | a1fa | god damn it |
| 15:10.05 | a1fa | same error |
| 15:10.10 | jetscreamer | man hosts also |
| 15:10.16 | jetscreamer | i think |
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| 15:10.18 | alistair | nothing in XF86 about mouse acceleration |
| 15:10.19 | Dragon-Eater | nvm |
| 15:10.24 | Dragon-Eater | ill just leave it like this |
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| 15:10.31 | stew | yay |
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| 15:10.44 | jetscreamer | boolean no-accel sounds familiar |
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| 15:11.10 | MaxPower | hey i got a problem with kthememanager |
| 15:11.14 | MaxPower | at the end it says checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 15:11.24 | Caelum | alistair: xset |
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| 15:11.27 | MaxPower | could someone help please? |
| 15:11.35 | abrotman | MaxPower: xlibs-dev |
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| 15:12.23 | jetscreamer | alistair: maybe http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/mouse.html then |
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| 15:13.17 | MaxPower | thanks i need to install it |
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| 15:13.26 | Caelum | xset m 0 should work, no? |
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| 15:13.40 | abrotman | MaxPower: yes you do |
| 15:13.42 | debian707 | i have a problem, i change the hostname whith the hostname command and now i cant open a terminal, any one knows why? :/ |
| 15:13.54 | MaxPower | abrotman, thanks ;) |
| 15:13.56 | greycat | you know he's going to ask for QT next, right? |
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| 15:14.03 | Dragon-Eater | !tell Dragon-Eater stfu |
| 15:14.03 | greycat | and then probably another one after that |
| 15:14.14 | Dragon-Eater | :/ |
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| 15:14.18 | Dragon-Eater | [26/Fri 17:13] <dpkg> No, dragon-eater, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 15:14.22 | tarzeau | pre weekend? |
| 15:14.22 | DotHack | MaxPower: you probably will get other errors relating to includes and stuff just get the develpment packages |
| 15:14.25 | greycat | Dragon-Eater: "about" |
| 15:14.25 | ricky_clarkson | !stfu |
| 15:14.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
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| 15:14.33 | Dragon-Eater | !tell Dragon-Eater about stfu |
| 15:14.34 | DoctorOwl | Does bk/xk still hang around here? |
| 15:14.42 | ricky_clarkson | Dragon-Eater: or /msg dpkg stfu |
| 15:14.49 | MaxPower | DotHack oh ok cheers |
| 15:15.15 | Dragon-Eater | !tell ricky_clarkson about stfu |
| 15:15.20 | bibe | debian707 : probably your /etc/hosts does not map the new hostname, am I right? |
| 15:15.25 | greycat | DoctorOwl: I've seen xk once or twice in the last couple months |
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| 15:15.35 | debian707 | bibe yes i think |
| 15:15.38 | jethro | !seen xk |
| 15:15.39 | dpkg | xk <i=rfc1413@l3-202-89-184-94.arach.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 1h 23m 23s ago, saying: 'apt: uptime'. |
| 15:15.46 | debian707 | bibe what can i do then? |
| 15:15.47 | DoctorOwl | Sweet |
| 15:15.49 | gnetux | how can i see if cups is installed? |
| 15:15.54 | greycat | gnetux: dpkg -l | grep cups |
| 15:15.55 | DoctorOwl | Is there a way to leave xk a message using dpkg? |
| 15:15.59 | Sleeping | •8:17am• «Dragon-Eater» !tell ricky_clarkson about stfu <-- cant you just tell him yourself? are you THAT scared of him? |
| 15:15.59 | DoctorOwl | (I mean the bot one ;)) |
| 15:16.00 | greycat | DoctorOwl: try memoserv |
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| 15:16.06 | abrotman | DoctorOwl: /msg memoserv help |
| 15:16.07 | jethro | DoctorOwl: use memoserv instead |
| 15:16.09 | DoctorOwl | Okay thanks |
| 15:16.11 | jethro | darn lag |
| 15:16.17 | Caelum | debian707: a console terminal or any shell doesn't open? have you tried a different shell? (maybe something in your .bashrc or whatever) |
| 15:16.26 | bibe | debian707 : so duplicate the line with the previous hostname, then change the name on the new line |
| 15:16.27 | barney_ | i found a way around my debootstrat error on the official dvd binary install |
| 15:16.46 | jethro | Caelum: I'd say it's the X cookie, rather than something in .bashrc |
| 15:16.56 | Caelum | ahh, good call |
| 15:16.57 | debian707 | bibe terminal dont open now :( |
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| 15:17.08 | jethro | debian707: type xauth list in a shell |
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| 15:17.30 | jethro | debian707: if it outputs cookies with your previous hostname, you know what the problem is |
| 15:17.41 | barney_ | start the install using a netinstall cd, then after it gets past the grub after reboot insert dvd 1 and the install will scan the disc, insert second disc and scan it as well then continue installation :) |
| 15:18.00 | debian707 | jethro i cant open a shell |
| 15:18.14 | jethro | debian707: of course you can. that's what the console is for |
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| 15:19.48 | htedrom | hey all, i'm having a problem installing the latest amaroK debian binary....it comes with a bunch of binarys, but when i install the main one first, it says i need the engine binary installed/configured first...but when i install the engine binary, same story, but about the main binary |
| 15:19.54 | Teemu_K | mm |
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| 15:20.07 | DotHack | a have installed debian for a few motns now and it has always been in testing.. in these monts i have added some sources to apt which got me some updates and stuff.. i also added the source for xorg an dinstalled xorg.. now i want de reverseback to a pure testing distibutiion without all the extra sources and programmes i had installed back then is this easilly possible?? |
| 15:20.14 | bibe | debian707 : can you login in a console (not from X)? |
| 15:20.14 | Shadowcat | htedrom: I don't have that problem |
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| 15:20.21 | Shadowcat | where are you getting this deb from? |
| 15:20.25 | debian707 | bibe let me try |
| 15:20.26 | htedrom | Shadowcat: you're using amarok 1.3? |
| 15:20.45 | Shadowcat | htedrom: I'm using whatever version's in debian testing |
| 15:20.48 | ricky_clarkson | Dragon-Eater: stfu |
| 15:20.53 | nkuttler | DotHack: remove all packages from those sources |
| 15:21.03 | htedrom | Shadowcat: the newest one in the default repositories is 1.2.4, or something, and i'm having problems with it...and #amaroK won't help unless i'm the latest version |
| 15:21.21 | Shadowcat | htedrom: and we don't support third party debs |
| 15:21.23 | DotHack | nkuttler: how do i know which package is from a source? |
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| 15:21.24 | sean_micken | firefox won't let me download any files... is this a known bug? |
| 15:21.37 | htedrom | Shadowcat: throw me a bone here :D |
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| 15:21.51 | greycat | !info amarok |
| 15:21.57 | Shadowcat | htedrom: no, it's not our job to fix other people's corrupt debs |
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| 15:22.06 | dpkg | amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (sid), Packaged size: 5761 kB, Installed size: 10496 kB |
| 15:22.11 | gnetux | greycat:how can i see on wich lp is connected my printer? |
| 15:22.12 | jetscreamer | a bug in ff? omg! |
| 15:22.14 | nkuttler | DotHack: you should write down what non-official packages you install |
| 15:22.18 | greycat | 10 megs for a *sound player*? |
| 15:22.20 | gnetux | greycat:how can i see on wich lp is connected my printer? |
| 15:22.33 | htedrom | Shadowcat: ok, but that shouldn't be happening right? |
| 15:22.38 | DotHack | nkuttler: hehe crap... and if i didnt? |
| 15:22.42 | greycat | does that include a bunch of oggs? |
| 15:22.45 | htedrom | Shadowcat: i mean, it's a problem i can bring to #amarok and not sound like an idiot? |
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| 15:22.53 | Shadowcat | htedrom: I didn't write the deb file |
| 15:23.09 | Shadowcat | I don't know how the idiot who wrote the control file defined his/her dependencies |
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| 15:23.20 | Shadowcat | it's a circular dependency problem |
| 15:23.24 | htedrom | yea |
| 15:23.25 | nkuttler | DotHack: you don't remember which external packages you installes? were it that many? |
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| 15:23.31 | Shadowcat | which steams from people not being able to write deb control files |
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| 15:23.37 | htedrom | ok, i'll take it to their chan...thanks fer the help |
| 15:23.38 | Shadowcat | so no, they won't help you |
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| 15:23.46 | Shadowcat | they'll kick it back to us |
| 15:23.53 | htedrom | i'll whine |
| 15:23.54 | Shadowcat | and you already got my answer |
| 15:24.07 | Shadowcat | whining usually makes people ignore you |
| 15:24.17 | htedrom | haha you're just a barrel of sunshine this morning |
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| 15:24.20 | htedrom | ok then |
| 15:24.23 | htedrom | i'll crack jokes |
| 15:24.30 | Shadowcat | htedrom: I've been compiling kernels all day |
| 15:24.33 | Shadowcat | so freaking sue me :P |
| 15:24.33 | stew | htedrom: how are you trying to install it? |
| 15:24.40 | htedrom | stew: dpkg -i |
| 15:24.46 | stew | htedrom: why not apt-get? |
| 15:24.53 | nkuttler | DotHack: you could remove the source lines, use aptitude, do update, upgrade, maybe he will upgrade the external packages or mark them as obsolete |
| 15:24.55 | Shadowcat | stew: scroll up |
| 15:24.58 | htedrom | stew: because the latest version on the repositories is 1.2.4 |
| 15:25.03 | Shadowcat | I already asked him those rounds of questions |
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| 15:25.14 | nkuttler | DotHack: otherwise apt-cache policy packagename and some scripting |
| 15:25.19 | DotHack | nkuttler: lets see |
| 15:25.21 | stew | htedrom: you are trying to install a newer one? |
| 15:25.22 | greycat | is it even worth wondering why an audio player would be over 10 MB *plus* have a dependency on "amarok-engines" *plus* the KDE and X libs? |
| 15:25.29 | MaxPower | DotHack, abrotman: i got a different error now ..... |
| 15:25.29 | MaxPower | configure: WARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support. |
| 15:25.29 | MaxPower | checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl |
| 15:25.29 | MaxPower | checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 15:25.30 | MaxPower | For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. |
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| 15:25.36 | htedrom | stew: yea, the #amarok guys won't help me unless it's 1.3 |
| 15:25.37 | nkuttler | hehe |
| 15:25.40 | abrotman | MaxPower: what are you trying to compile? |
| 15:25.43 | greycat | 11:13 greycat> you know he's going to ask for QT next, right? |
| 15:25.50 | nkuttler | !win greycat |
| 15:25.51 | dpkg | Congratulations, greycat! You have won a one way ticket to Soviet Russia! |
| 15:25.53 | Shadowcat | hahaha QT |
| 15:26.01 | MaxPower | abrotman: im trying to compile kthememanager |
| 15:26.03 | Shadowcat | why don't you just run KDE 3.4 from experimental |
| 15:26.09 | Shadowcat | knock yourself out :P |
| 15:26.10 | abrotman | MaxPower: isn't that already packaged in debian? |
| 15:26.16 | stew | htedrom: have you tried installing them both at the same time? dpkg -i pkg1 pkg2 ? |
| 15:26.17 | greycat | Shadowcat: because he's too clueless to even install a -dev package |
| 15:26.18 | abrotman | !find bin/kthememanager sarge |
| 15:26.21 | ricky_clarkson | !info kthememanager |
| 15:26.27 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/kthememanager' returned no results. |
| 15:26.28 | Shadowcat | greycat: true |
| 15:26.29 | DotHack | nkuttler: whao lots of obsoletes |
| 15:26.32 | Gnea | http://gnea.net/debian_e17_install2cvs.sh <--- if anyone wants to give that a whirl, i'm open to bugfixes |
| 15:26.32 | htedrom | stew: nope, i'll try that now |
| 15:26.44 | Shadowcat | Gnea: what is that? |
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| 15:27.01 | Gnea | Shadowcat: exactly as the filename states. |
| 15:27.16 | MaxPower | abrotman: not by the looks of it.. unless theres another theme manager? |
| 15:27.18 | Shadowcat | what's e17? |
| 15:27.23 | Gnea | oh my |
| 15:27.25 | Shadowcat | (yes I'm clueless here) |
| 15:27.25 | greycat | some inferior window manager, I think |
| 15:27.25 | Gnea | !dr17 |
| 15:27.25 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 15:27.28 | Gnea | !e17 |
| 15:27.29 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
| 15:27.30 | nkuttler | Shadowcat: new enlightenment |
| 15:27.32 | greycat | it's not fvwm. so it sucks. ;-) |
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| 15:27.39 | Shadowcat | nkuttler: well I use KDE |
| 15:27.41 | Shadowcat | so sue me :P |
| 15:27.43 | Gnea | lol |
| 15:27.43 | Dragon-Eater | ricky_clarkson get a life. |
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| 15:27.46 | Gnea | ok, time for work |
| 15:27.49 | DotHack | nkuttler: this is not good he marks half miy os as obsolute |
| 15:28.02 | ricky_clarkson | Dragon-Eater: Please don't tell dpkg to tell me stuff. |
| 15:28.03 | redloff | hi, anyone knows what do I have to do to make pressing opposite directions working on my ddrmat connected to usb via ps/usb converter? |
| 15:28.04 | jethro | greycat: dr17 is much better than e16 has ever been! :) |
| 15:28.06 | turb | when does debdian vista is due? |
| 15:28.09 | nkuttler | DotHack: that's why you take notes when installing external packages |
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| 15:28.23 | ricky_clarkson | Dragon-Eater: I took a life last week, is that what you mean? |
| 15:28.37 | Dragon-Eater | !tell ricky_clarkson about stfu |
| 15:28.42 | greycat | turb: as soon as toy story 3 comes out with a toy named vista in it. and we use up all the other characters. |
| 15:28.46 | ricky_clarkson | Dragon-Eater: Bog off. |
| 15:28.51 | greycat | turb: so, probably around the 23rd century |
| 15:28.52 | stew | Dragon-Eater: ricky_clarkson please /ignore eachother or take this elsewhere |
| 15:29.10 | Dragon-Eater | lol im not going to go in a insulting battle |
| 15:29.10 | ricky_clarkson | I already have eachother on ignore. |
| 15:29.15 | DotHack | nkuttler: what if it update a package? |
| 15:29.20 | Danamania | I'm doing a woody netinstall (least, it started out that way) because as far as I can tell with the hardware I have any sarge installers are broken - partway through I notice it's pulling down stable/main stuff, which I presume will actually be sarge now. Is this likely to lead to complete breakage, or just luck that I now will have sarge anyway? |
| 15:29.22 | htedrom | stew: worked! thanks |
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| 15:29.36 | greycat | Danamania: I'd stop it. |
| 15:29.37 | DotHack | nkuttler: delete then reinstall it? |
| 15:29.38 | nkuttler | DotHack: you mean upgrade? |
| 15:29.50 | sean_micken | i can't download any files in firefox. when i click on any link to download the file, it does nothing. running sarge. |
| 15:29.57 | DotHack | update upgrade tomato tomato |
| 15:29.59 | nkuttler | DotHack: hm... maybe install --reinstall is enough |
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| 15:30.03 | greycat | Danamania: do a BARE woody install then do a sarge upgrade (using woody's aptitude), then install the sarge packages you need. |
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| 15:30.17 | blastmanu | hi |
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| 15:30.26 | ricky_clarkson | sean_micken: right-click |
| 15:30.37 | Danamania | greycat; aye - that's what I was planning, unfortunately I seem to have gone a step too far |
| 15:30.40 | Danamania | however... stopping |
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| 15:32.23 | sean_micken | ricky_clarkson: yes, that works, but sometimes you can't do it like that (e.g. like for java @ java.com the download is just /AutoDL which then starts the download for you...) |
| 15:32.42 | shaggyoaf | is there anything I need to do after installing libapache2-mod-python to get apache2 to actually execute python scripts instead of just displaying them? |
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| 15:32.56 | wols | edit your apache config |
| 15:33.01 | wols | the mime stuff especially |
| 15:33.01 | greycat | sean_micken: sounds like you've got Issues. (e.g. javascript) |
| 15:33.21 | stew | shaggyoaf: have you looked in /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-python ? |
| 15:33.28 | ricky_clarkson | sean_micken: Dunno, #mozilla or #firefox or check bugzilla.mozilla.org |
| 15:33.32 | ricky_clarkson | !why not mozilla |
| 15:33.41 | greycat | (or sourceforge... but at least you can whack the ESC key repeatedly to stop sourceforge's automatic start thing, and then right-click the url and paste it where you need it) |
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| 15:34.13 | stew | greycat: whacking it once would suffice, or even pressing it gently |
| 15:34.29 | greycat | stew: it's just not the same. |
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| 15:34.59 | sean_micken | greycat: i haven't messed with it at all though... this is a new install. |
| 15:35.06 | rAz_ | greycat, all right for my hardware problm, that was due to i dont connect the 2 disks, there were a kind of token in both thx at all |
| 15:35.14 | rAz_ | ( scsi hard disks ) |
| 15:35.31 | stew | sean_micken: what version does dpkg -l mozilla-firefox report? |
| 15:35.50 | rAz_ | a sort of ring i mean :D |
| 15:36.01 | redloff | where can I find what paremeters I can load a module with? |
| 15:36.05 | greycat | redloff: modinfo |
| 15:36.10 | stew | latest firefox from s.d.o is aparantly an proverbial anthill |
| 15:36.11 | redloff | oh, thx |
| 15:36.18 | sean_micken | stew: 1.0.4-2sarge2 |
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| 15:36.46 | abrotman | hehe |
| 15:36.57 | stew | greycat: why? |
| 15:37.31 | stew | sean_micken: you might see if the problem goes away if you apt-get install mozilla-firefox=1.0.4-2 |
| 15:37.35 | greycat | stew: 1) it's the last version for which the old mozex extension works; 2) last time I tried to upgrade to 1.0 the carnage was impressive. |
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| 15:37.59 | sean_micken | stew: hey im looking in javascript: |
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| 15:38.09 | sean_micken | stew: and everytime i try to download something, it shows this error.. hang on lemme get it |
| 15:38.12 | redloff | what about joydev? where can I set it to allow pressing opposite directions at once? |
| 15:38.15 | sean_micken | stew: Error: uncaught exception: Permission denied to get property RegExp.constructor |
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| 15:38.28 | greycat | I told ya... javascript is the embodiment of evil on the material plane. |
| 15:39.10 | stew | greycat: i used to have .8 on hold for a long time too, lately the carnage is not as impressive, and i finally figured out how to get my readline like keybindings working again |
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| 15:39.44 | greycat | oh, that was the third reason! no Ctrl-U in the URL bar. |
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| 15:40.24 | greycat | what, do they *actually* expect me to highlight the entire URL with the mouse and then press backspace? |
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| 15:41.02 | greycat | and yes, sure, you can use Ctrl-W and then Ctrl-T to destroy that tab and open a new one, but that doesn't work if it's the *only* tab in that window. |
| 15:41.04 | namenick | I installed the base system of debian, then I used apt-get to install x-windows-system-core, then icewm, then gnome...when I restarted I got a command line...what might I do to get debian to load gnome? and upon startup? |
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| 15:41.37 | nkuttler | doesn't ctrl-a highlight everything? |
| 15:41.42 | greycat | namenick: startx |
| 15:41.49 | stew | greycat: echo "gtk-key-theme-name = \"Emacs\"" > ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ; fixes the keybindings |
| 15:41.58 | wols | namenick: install gdm |
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| 15:42.15 | namenick | thank you both |
| 15:42.29 | greycat | dpkg, mozilla-firefox is also stew> greycat: echo "gtk-key-theme-name = \"Emacs\"" > ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ; fixes the keybindings |
| 15:42.29 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
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| 15:43.20 | calyth | is it possible to tar bzip2 the root directory and store the file somewhere in the very same filesystem? also I need to exclude /proc and device files.... |
| 15:43.21 | stew | dpkg mozilla-firefox =~ s,> ~/.gtk,>> ~/.gtk, |
| 15:43.21 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 15:43.25 | greycat | hmm.... the bot ate one of the backslashes |
| 15:43.51 | stew | !eat \\ |
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| 15:44.10 | greycat | dpkg, mozilla-firefox =~ s/"Emacs/\"Emacs/ |
| 15:44.10 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
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| 15:44.32 | Hoaxbe | do people here also seem to have problems with the latest 'sarge2' 1.0.4 firefox update? I got it via apt-get upgrade and since then a lot of problems started |
| 15:44.36 | jeremie | bonjour |
| 15:44.45 | greycat | Hoaxbe: sean_micken is also having trouble |
| 15:44.47 | stew | Hoaxbe: yes, its known to be extremely buggy |
| 15:44.49 | jeremie | y'a t il des francais |
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| 15:45.06 | greycat | !fr |
| 15:45.06 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 15:45.07 | Hoaxbe | ok, then I guess I'm not the only one |
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| 15:45.22 | bibe | Hoaxbe : yes, I fired a bug report last saturday |
| 15:45.33 | stew | Hoaxbe: your choices are live with it and wait for a fix, or install the old one and stop visiting malicious sites for a while |
| 15:45.37 | antgel | !btssmite hoaxbe |
| 15:45.49 | antgel | no chainsaw, bonus |
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| 15:46.00 | abrotman | maybe they should recall that upgrade |
| 15:46.04 | abrotman | err "upgrade" :) |
| 15:46.04 | jelly | greycat: As for ctrl-u, you could have done that without using the mouse: Home, hold Shift, End, Delete ;-) |
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| 15:46.17 | rking | why does 'linda' suggest installing figlet? just because it's funny? |
| 15:46.26 | Hoaxbe | heh, I have tried installing sarge1, deleting profiles, ... |
| 15:46.45 | greycat | jelly: that's sick. |
| 15:47.01 | greycat | I won't even ask how you would know that. |
| 15:47.13 | bibe | Hoaxbe : no need to delete profile, a simple dpkg -i <sarge1>.deb solved the problems, at least for me |
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| 15:47.27 | stew | jelly: i refuse to let my hands leave the home row except to eat and drink beer |
| 15:47.34 | Hoaxbe | I did that, didn't work |
| 15:47.40 | Hoaxbe | I'll jsut wait for a fix :) |
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| 15:48.01 | bibe | Hoaxbe : explain didn't work, please... |
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| 15:48.36 | stew | rking: probably many other people do too, get to work on implementing it |
| 15:48.45 | jelly | greycat: Yes. Was very glad when I found out the Emacs-keybindings-thingy. As for how did I know, I just remembered that possibly, maybe, the usual windows bindings could work... ;-) |
| 15:48.52 | Hoaxbe | after upgrading I had to start start firefox multiple times for one to pop up |
| 15:49.15 | Hoaxbe | so I thought, maybe something with my profile, deleted it and started a new one |
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| 15:49.22 | rking | stew: hrmm... i suppose there's not an obvious reason why it wouldn't work... you'd lose the normal meaning of <Esc>, but one could just add a command for that. =\ |
| 15:49.26 | greycat | jelly: then I'd have to ask how you know those windows bindings, and I'm afraid the answer would cause me distress. |
| 15:49.36 | bibe | Hoaxbe : sure there was no instances already running? try 'pkill firefox-bin' |
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| 15:50.23 | Hoaxbe | I wanted to install "greasemonkey" extension and that never worked. I clicked on the link, firefox asked if I wanted to install, I clicked yes, the ext window pops up, and no difference |
| 15:50.33 | Hoaxbe | I was sure of that, using KSysGuard |
| 15:50.52 | jelly | greycat: The hold-shift-and-select was used in ye olde Borland IDE, Turbo Pascal 5 or 6 maybe. |
| 15:51.13 | greycat | !comfort jelly |
| 15:51.14 | dpkg | There, there, jelly. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 15:54.14 | bibe | Hoaxbe : I just installed that extension, closed firefox and restarted, and everything goes fine. any test for me to run? |
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| 15:55.37 | Hoaxbe | what do you mean? |
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| 15:56.04 | klaxian | he i wonder if you can help me... |
| 15:56.23 | bibe | Hoaxbe : you said you have many problems. tell me how to reproduce one, I can test if it's the same with my installation |
| 15:56.27 | klaxian | i have an HP printer configured using hpijs and it works fine except in firefox |
| 15:56.48 | klaxian | firefox prints everything too large |
| 15:56.52 | klaxian | i'm guessing it's a resolution problem |
| 15:57.09 | klaxian | how would I adjust the printer to something like 150dpi or adjust firefox to print at 300? |
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| 15:58.10 | Hoaxbe | euhm, seems like you can install greasemonkey, I cannot. 3/5 times when I open op my history or press ctrl-f, firefox just exits without warning. Choosing to open a file instead of saving to disk results in the file not being downloaded |
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| 15:58.50 | klaxian | does anyone know how to adjust printer resolution settings or adjust firefox to print at a lower resolution? |
| 15:58.51 | namenick | apt-getc1rcu1tmonkey |
| 15:58.53 | greycat | Today is Firefox Problem Day. |
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| 16:00.05 | abrotman | greycat: would you rather it be NFS Problem Day? |
| 16:00.06 | greycat | abrotman: Hey. You've got weasels on your channel. |
| 16:00.07 | jetscreamer | hey why the hell do i have 2 tmpfs entries when i type mount? is this a udev thing/bug? (udev got installed last night) |
| 16:00.12 | bibe | Hoaxbe : are you using a plain sarge plus security updates? |
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| 16:01.13 | chandra | how do I change my screen resolution? |
| 16:01.26 | nefarious | ctrl-alt-+ |
| 16:01.29 | Hoaxbe | i'm running Sarge, and I have upgraded via apt-get update upgrade. What do you mean by 'plain' Sarge? |
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| 16:01.43 | antgel | bibe, Hoaxbe: it's widely known that the firefox security update didn't exactly go well. suggest you accept that it's fucked and downgrade. |
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| 16:01.57 | antgel | !googlesmite chandra |
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| 16:02.15 | bibe | Hoaxbe : a sarge without packages from testing and/or unstable |
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| 16:02.27 | jetscreamer | aka pure |
| 16:02.28 | nkuttler | chandra: /msg dpkg resolution |
| 16:02.34 | chandra | thanks :) |
| 16:02.54 | nkuttler | hm |
| 16:03.01 | nkuttler | chandra: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 16:03.15 | bibe | antgel : it seems Hoaxbe has downgraded firefox to the latest-working firefox, as I did, but his problems are still there, while mine went away |
| 16:03.25 | antgel | aha |
| 16:03.35 | jetscreamer | hah |
| 16:03.39 | Hoaxbe | I have installed mplayer using a huge workaround, but apart from that no packages |
| 16:03.42 | antgel | has she tried with a clean profile? |
| 16:03.54 | jetscreamer | mplayer is on marillat and installs just fine |
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| 16:04.03 | jetscreamer | what did you do different? |
| 16:04.06 | Hoaxbe | no, I'm running the sarge2 again since it didn't have any difference with the (before working) sarge1 |
| 16:04.21 | bibe | Hoaxbe : so _please_ downgrade |
| 16:04.35 | antgel | although the mplayer plugin for firefox crashes so often that i no longer use it |
| 16:05.03 | antgel | Hoaxbe: you can't expect the bug-ridden one to make your life any easier |
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| 16:05.35 | klaxian | do you have any other repositories configured? mplayer from marillat conflicted with a package i had updated from dotdeb i think |
| 16:05.43 | jetscreamer | one tmpfs in in /dev (the new one) and the other is /dev/shm |
| 16:06.03 | jetscreamer | must be udev |
| 16:06.07 | greycat | jetscreamer: yes. |
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| 16:06.40 | hefty | re |
| 16:06.56 | bibe | I keep getting private messages (3/4 a day) from unknown users logging from .es domains. Anyone experiencing the same "problem"? |
| 16:07.14 | Morti | Yeah. I don't check their domains though so not sure if it's .es. |
| 16:07.58 | Hoaxbe | I'm running 1.0.4 now, which used to work |
| 16:07.59 | r3v | bibe: i don't really get any private messages |
| 16:08.02 | Hoaxbe | no difference |
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| 16:08.03 | jetscreamer | i got some weird bork msg on shutdown about tmpfs too... don't recall the exact |
| 16:08.15 | jetscreamer | try /umode +E |
| 16:08.18 | antgel | Hoaxbe: both versions are 1.0.4 |
| 16:08.18 | jetscreamer | if you mean on irc |
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| 16:08.41 | antgel | Hoaxbe: apt-cache policy mozilla-firefox |
| 16:09.05 | Hoaxbe | indeed, but the 'normal' 1.0.4 worked, then I installed 1.0.4-sarge1 and then 1.0.4-sarge2 |
| 16:10.01 | Thunder000 | which kernel verion does the unstable debian have ? |
| 16:10.18 | antgel | Thunder000: apt-cache search kernel-image or packages.debian.org |
| 16:10.28 | bibe | Thunder000 : 2.6.12, the packages are now called linux-image and linux-source |
| 16:10.32 | Hoaxbe | antgel : installed : 1.0.4-2 Candidate : 1.0.4-2sarge2 |
| 16:10.38 | yonkel-lappy | if i wanted to create an encrypted partition that was not my root partition, how hard would that be? |
| 16:10.55 | Thunder000 | does the unstable use udev ? |
| 16:10.56 | greycat | Thunder000: only if you install it |
| 16:10.58 | antgel | !tell josetorero about msg |
| 16:10.58 | jetscreamer | hard, if you didn't have any free space :) |
| 16:11.13 | jetscreamer | well harder than if you did |
| 16:11.17 | bibe | Hoaxbe : what if you move ~/.mozilla/firefox/ away for a moment and try with a completely new profile? |
| 16:11.17 | streuner | Thunder000: apt-get remove udev, if you have it installed |
| 16:11.22 | antgel | yonkel-lappy: i'd say, moderately hard |
| 16:11.31 | jetscreamer | make that apt-get remove --purge |
| 16:11.39 | yonkel-lappy | antgel: is it easier to do the whole system? |
| 16:11.44 | antgel | make that aptitude purge |
| 16:11.58 | jetscreamer | i'm kinda leaning toward keeping it this time :( |
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| 16:12.06 | jetscreamer | fork aptitude |
| 16:12.12 | antgel | yonkel-lappy: i doubt it |
| 16:12.24 | Thunder000 | how do it get debian unstable .. do i download the sarge netinstall then just change the repositories ? |
| 16:12.31 | greycat | !IYHTAYS |
| 16:12.31 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 16:12.40 | jetscreamer | Thunder000: you probably should try etch before sid |
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| 16:12.48 | jetscreamer | esp atm |
| 16:12.59 | antgel | Thunder000: yes, but could you not have looked this info up on the information superhighway? |
| 16:13.05 | Hoaxbe | bibe : new profile, no difference |
| 16:13.07 | jetscreamer | but yeah that's basically it |
| 16:13.10 | antgel | the world wide cock? |
| 16:13.28 | greycat | antgel: world wide wank |
| 16:13.34 | antgel | lol |
| 16:13.43 | antgel | !lol |
| 16:13.43 | dpkg | lol stands for lamer On line, or everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a knoppix user. http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 16:13.45 | jetscreamer | while we wank |
| 16:13.53 | bibe | Hoaxbe : sorry, no more ideas |
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| 16:14.06 | Morti | What's the Jesus lol thing about? I don't get it. |
| 16:14.14 | Hoaxbe | no problem, I'll just wait for a fix |
| 16:14.18 | antgel | it's not the worlds greatest factoid |
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| 16:14.31 | omgs | Hi |
| 16:14.34 | Morti | i just don't get it. Can it be changed? |
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| 16:14.40 | Morti | It's kind of offensive. |
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| 16:14.46 | omgs | I'm having a problem with a usb device in sarge |
| 16:15.01 | barney_ | how do i get the "blinking computers"on my gnome toolbar (to show network connected) like ubuntu has? |
| 16:15.19 | cahoot | Morti: complaining of offensive things in #debian? must be joking |
| 16:15.30 | antgel | barney_: i don't know, but is that really the sort of rubbish feature that gnome provides now? |
| 16:15.48 | omgs | When I plug it in, I get "hal.hotplug[1701]: could not get mountpoint for sysfs" |
| 16:15.54 | antgel | i don't think it's offensive but i don't think it's funny either |
| 16:16.13 | antgel | Morti: you'll have to ask dpkg nicely if you want to change it ;) |
| 16:16.25 | greycat | first, dpkg has to *want* to change. |
| 16:16.42 | Morti | Right... |
| 16:16.45 | streuner | barney_: you ever saw 'gkrellm'? |
| 16:16.51 | antgel | yeah, no point telling her. it has to come from within |
| 16:16.55 | Morti | dpkg is an infobot, right? |
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| 16:16.59 | jelly | her? |
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| 16:17.02 | greycat | !blootbot |
| 16:17.02 | dpkg | [blootbot] a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 16:17.21 | Morti | Ah, I see. |
| 16:17.28 | greycat | !gender |
| 16:17.28 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 16:17.53 | jelly | dpkg, confuse me |
| 16:17.54 | dpkg | No, what was my hamster yesterday, jelly? shirts of the democracy of swaziland with extra anchovies |
| 16:18.07 | mkl1525 | Is there a tool that shows the current leased IP adresses from the dhcpd3 server - scrolling the leases file is little bit annoying |
| 16:18.14 | Morti | So what is the Jesus lol thing about? |
| 16:18.24 | greycat | Morti: someone thought it was funny. |
| 16:18.34 | jelly | Morti: where does J. come into it? |
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| 16:19.05 | Morti | Who's able to change the factoids? |
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| 16:19.11 | greycat | everyone |
| 16:19.21 | stew | Morti: anyone who doesn't abuse them |
| 16:19.35 | Morti | How does that work? |
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| 16:19.38 | antgel | !antgel |
| 16:19.38 | dpkg | i heard antgel is cool ;) |
| 16:19.40 | caphuso | stew: and anyone who does :-( |
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| 16:19.47 | antgel | Morti: /msg dpkg help |
| 16:19.55 | greycat | caphuso: unless don bans 'em |
| 16:20.03 | stew | ^^ thats what i meant |
| 16:20.07 | daos | anyone know if you can do an insmod to load support for cifs file system with the default sarge install? |
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| 16:20.34 | stew | daos: yes but use modprobe not insmod |
| 16:20.37 | chandra | how do I know how much graphic memory I have? |
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| 16:20.47 | greycat | chandra: read the X log and pray |
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| 16:21.16 | daos | stew: cool thanks, do you happen to know what the module is called? |
| 16:21.27 | omgs | greycat: could you please help me with my usb issue? |
| 16:21.28 | stew | daos: no |
| 16:21.28 | Xenguy | chandra: I saw a newly added package to debian (unstable/testing) called 'dconf'; not sure if that might help |
| 16:21.34 | greycat | !ask |
| 16:21.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 16:21.37 | stew | daos: i take that back, its not in sarge's kernel |
| 16:21.59 | omgs | greycat: I already did it, but can repeat it |
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| 16:22.07 | greycat | damn it... that factoid is missing "Don't ask one person -- ask the whole channel." |
| 16:22.07 | omgs | I'm having a problem with a usb device in sarge |
| 16:22.11 | omgs | When I plug it in, I get "hal.hotplug[1701]: could not get mountpoint for sysfs" |
| 16:22.18 | daos | stew: damn, ok thanks anyway :) |
| 16:22.24 | chandra | greycat, were does x11 log exist? |
| 16:22.29 | greycat | chandra: /var/log/X* |
| 16:22.32 | antgel | omgs: what are you plugging in? |
| 16:22.36 | chandra | thanks :) |
| 16:22.36 | stew | daos: you'd have to fetch 2.6.11 or 2.6.12 |
| 16:22.47 | omgs | a usb dvd recorder |
| 16:23.05 | greycat | good luck. |
| 16:23.06 | omgs | In other computer running sarge, it works ok |
| 16:23.13 | greycat | same kernel on each one? |
| 16:23.14 | antgel | omgs: is that the only error? |
| 16:23.17 | omgs | Yes |
| 16:23.26 | greycat | which kernel? |
| 16:23.28 | daos | stew: yeah I already got a new kernel, just didnt want to screw around |
| 16:23.31 | daos | :D |
| 16:23.33 | antgel | omgs: have you read the hotplug documentation? |
| 16:23.35 | omgs | antgel: it tries to load usb-storgare, but it says it's already loaded |
| 16:23.37 | Morti | !lol |
| 16:23.37 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line. Everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a Knoppix user. |
| 16:23.43 | nefarious | lol |
| 16:23.48 | omgs | It's 2.4.27, sarge default |
| 16:24.00 | antgel | Morti: you learnt quicker than me. i still can't communicate with that sexy beast |
| 16:24.13 | antgel | omgs: ^^^ |
| 16:24.15 | Morti | I've used an infobot before and it's not too dissimilar. |
| 16:24.17 | greycat | dpkg, jesus lol is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/jesuslol.jpg or http://loljesus.com/submissions/high2.jpg or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/BillLundberg/wherebejeezuz.jpg |
| 16:24.17 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 16:24.20 | greycat | just in case. |
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| 16:24.39 | omgs | antgel: I tried, but got nothing clear |
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| 16:25.20 | antgel | omgs: did you _really_ try? right then. firstly, i think you should paste the log somewhere rather than paraphrasing it |
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| 16:25.40 | omgs | antgel: It's a paste, or you want some more lines? |
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| 16:25.52 | antgel | omgs: secondly, you could try an upgrade to 2.6, for a laugh |
| 16:25.57 | kamaraju | why are the number of users on debian so low today? Till now AFAIK it always used to be more than 700. |
| 16:26.08 | antgel | omgs: this was not a paste: antgel: it tries to load usb-storgare, but it says it's already loaded |
| 16:26.16 | omgs | antgel: that sounds a windoze "solution" |
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| 16:26.31 | omgs | I pasted the log |
| 16:26.38 | antgel | omgs: where? |
| 16:26.44 | omgs | When I plug it in, I get "hal.hotplug[1701]: could not get mountpoint for sysfs" |
| 16:26.52 | omgs | It's quoted |
| 16:27.14 | antgel | omgs: you pasted one line of the log. you then mentioned that there were other relevant lines relating to usb-storage etc. |
| 16:27.26 | stew | kamaraju: they switched server versions in the last day which kicked everyone off and not everyone has reconnected yet |
| 16:27.29 | omgs | Ok, then I'll paste more lines |
| 16:27.46 | omgs | Aug 26 17:54:10 localhost hal.hotplug[1701]: could not get mountpoint for sysfs |
| 16:27.46 | omgs | Aug 26 17:54:14 localhost kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-2, assigned address 5 |
| 16:27.46 | omgs | Aug 26 17:54:14 localhost kernel: WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured |
| 16:27.47 | omgs | Aug 26 17:54:14 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage device found at 5 |
| 16:27.47 | omgs | Aug 26 17:54:15 localhost hal.hotplug[1730]: could not get mountpoint for sysfs |
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| 16:28.03 | antgel | i was just going to warn him too. i could smell it |
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| 16:28.12 | kamaraju | stew: that explains it. thanks |
| 16:28.21 | a1fa | yo |
| 16:28.29 | a1fa | i finally found the issue with this sparc |
| 16:28.30 | a1fa | RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. |
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| 16:28.37 | antgel | !topicsmite omgs |
| 16:28.38 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon omgs. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 16:28.38 | a1fa | it doesnt know where the ram disk is |
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| 16:28.43 | coreyo | does anyone happen to have sasl authentication working properly with postfix using the debian packages? I can't seem to get it to correctly use my sasldb file for authentication. |
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| 16:28.45 | a1fa | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.50 | a1fa | is not a valid ram disk |
| 16:29.06 | greycat | that 'sysfs' reference sounds like he has /sys in something (fstab??) and he's on a kernel that doesn't have /sys |
| 16:29.10 | a1fa | anyway to find out through SILO what ram disks are available to write the image into?> |
| 16:29.12 | jelly | omgs: do you have a 2.6 kernel? With sysfs support? |
| 16:29.25 | greycat | that's why I asked "which kernel" |
| 16:29.28 | omgs | No, I have a 2.4.27, the default 2.4 with sarge |
| 16:29.35 | greycat | 12:23 omgs> It's 2.4.27, sarge default |
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| 16:29.39 | jelly | oh |
| 16:29.45 | jelly | well that explains it. |
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| 16:30.07 | antgel | but he claims it works on another identical machine |
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| 16:30.13 | antgel | identical my aris |
| 16:30.16 | chandra | I reconfigured my xfree86, but I don't see the changes :( |
| 16:30.17 | greycat | clearly it's not identical |
| 16:30.28 | greycat | chandra: read the logs |
| 16:30.42 | omgs | I didn't say the _machines_ were identical, but the software (sarge) |
| 16:30.46 | greycat | if it rejects your mode, it'll say why |
| 16:30.52 | Danamania | greycat: the woody->sarge looks to have worked just as it should have - thanks. One more ancient box working :). |
| 16:30.54 | antgel | identical software my aris |
| 16:30.58 | greycat | omgs: and every single configuration file? |
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| 16:31.19 | omgs | I didn't setup anything for hotplug in any of the computers |
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| 16:31.55 | omgs | If I plug a pendrive in the same usb slot, it works ok |
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| 16:32.04 | greycat | HUH?? |
| 16:32.12 | greycat | that makes *no* sense! |
| 16:32.15 | omgs | I mean, usb support I think it's ok |
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| 16:32.29 | greycat | what's the difference between the pen drive and this other drive? |
| 16:32.34 | antgel | omgs: you have the same versions of hotplug on both machines |
| 16:32.42 | antgel | greycat: about £20 |
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| 16:32.53 | antgel | omgs: that was a question by me btw |
| 16:32.56 | omgs | As I said, the software is the shipped in sarge, with the same cd set |
| 16:33.11 | antgel | omgs: so you haven't upgraded or any of that shit? |
| 16:33.22 | jelly | that particular error may make no sense, however a working pen-drive vs. a non-working hard drive would make sense. |
| 16:33.28 | omgs | why should I? |
| 16:33.40 | greycat | jelly: aren't they both mass storage scsi-disk-over-USB? |
| 16:33.43 | antgel | omgs: security updates? why shouldn't you? |
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| 16:33.51 | omgs | I can try, but the kernel version is not the problem |
| 16:34.04 | antgel | omgs: try what? |
| 16:34.06 | greycat | omgs: something is trying to access /sys which does not exist in your kernel version. |
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| 16:34.11 | greycat | omgs: you need to find out WHAT, and FIX it. |
| 16:34.14 | omgs | try upgrade to 2.6.x |
| 16:34.24 | ranDom | hi all |
| 16:34.32 | greycat | or that, but I don't know whether you can use a USB DVD writer in 2.6 since there's no ide-scsi |
| 16:34.47 | omgs | greycat: well, I have a /sys, but maybe I need some entry in fstab? |
| 16:34.47 | greycat | but then, maybe the SCSI-over-USB makes it look like a real SCSI so you don't need the other layer... *shrug* |
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| 16:35.00 | greycat | omgs: I mean a /sys with stuff in it. |
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| 16:35.18 | antgel | omgs: why not compare fstabs on the machines? are you running devfs? |
| 16:35.19 | greycat | you know, a *mounted* one, like /proc |
| 16:35.19 | omgs | No, it's empty |
| 16:35.26 | greycat | omgs: it'll be empty on 2.4 |
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| 16:35.39 | omgs | antgel: well, the software is installed, but not mounted on boot |
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| 16:35.53 | antgel | omgs: on both machines? |
| 16:35.58 | omgs | antgel: yes |
| 16:36.32 | antgel | omgs: frankly, i don't see why you said upgrading to 2.6 is a windows solution. i wouldn't bother to get a windows 98 box working. |
| 16:36.35 | omgs | The problematic is a toshiba laptop pII with only one usb slot |
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| 16:36.54 | omgs | Because the kernel version is not the problem |
| 16:36.56 | ranDom | omgs whats the problem ? |
| 16:37.10 | antgel | omgs: well if you know what the problem is, you don't need me to help |
| 16:37.16 | omgs | Since It woks in another computer with the same kernel |
| 16:37.30 | antgel | omgs: fine, then you know what you are doing and all is hunky dory |
| 16:37.59 | omgs | I think the problem is the userspace software, but not sure how to manage it |
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| 16:38.21 | greycat | have you compared your configs yet? |
| 16:38.35 | omgs | what config? |
| 16:38.48 | greycat | all the relevant ones! |
| 16:39.03 | greycat | you know, like, for example, fstab? and hotplug? you know, the things we've been tlaking about for 10 minutes now? |
| 16:39.03 | omgs | usb support is enabled, and the relevant module is usb-storage |
| 16:39.15 | antgel | omgs: so when you say you read the hotplug docs, how long did you read them for? |
| 16:39.40 | a1fa | ~rndc |
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| 16:40.26 | lakcaj | I can't get magicpoint to use truetype fonts. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 16:40.37 | omgs | antgel: I've compared the /etc/hotplug* and there's nothing special |
| 16:40.43 | jelly | Oh, and a dvd-burner is not a "scsi-disk", however usb-storage is (I think) scsi-over-usb (not disk only), so that is probably ok. |
| 16:40.44 | omgs | In one works, and not in the other |
| 16:40.56 | antgel | lakcaj: is magicpoint in debian? |
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| 16:41.05 | lakcaj | antgel, yes, mgp |
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| 16:41.32 | antgel | omgs: yes, but that's not documentation, that's configuration files. i feel that if you read the docs, you'd get to the bottom of it but you can't be arsed |
| 16:42.22 | lakcaj | All I want is a simple way to make a presentation that doesn't look like crap |
| 16:42.29 | omgs | But docs talk about existing scripts, something like "watch and don't touch" |
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| 16:43.14 | omgs | The scripts detect the drive, but for some unknown reason, can't assign a "resource" for it |
| 16:43.26 | greycat | you made that shit up. |
| 16:43.33 | greycat | your ONLY error message so far is that sysfs one. |
| 16:43.51 | greycat | so find out who's trying to fuck with /sys and stop it. |
| 16:43.58 | omgs | greycat: well, remember that I was banned when pasting some more lines |
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| 16:44.08 | greycat | !paste |
| 16:44.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 16:44.26 | jelly | omgs: ... does that sysfs error happen on the other machine too? |
| 16:44.33 | jelly | omgs: it might be a red herring |
| 16:44.36 | cahoot | lakcaj: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ might do? |
| 16:44.38 | antgel | lakcaj: so it is. i'd like to have a go with that one day. fortunately atm, i don't have to give any presentations |
| 16:44.38 | omgs | jelly: no, the other macine works ok |
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| 16:44.48 | greycat | omgs: does it produce the message, though? |
| 16:44.56 | alistair | hey im setting up a wireless Linksys network... anythings i should know? |
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| 16:45.10 | antgel | alistair: yes. always put your socks on before your shoes. |
| 16:45.10 | omgs | no, it doesn't say the error, but logs detection |
| 16:45.21 | h08817 | any1 know what fsck is? |
| 16:45.26 | alistair | antegel.. i have a network card and router now ;D |
| 16:45.27 | greycat | no, any1 doesn't know. |
| 16:45.31 | greycat | but the man does. |
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| 16:45.38 | alistair | anyone assist in getting me linksys linux drivers? |
| 16:45.47 | greycat | alistair: what chipset? |
| 16:45.48 | ranDom | greycat, that was very well said |
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| 16:46.01 | antgel | !googlesmite alistair |
| 16:46.23 | alistair | greycat, Im SiS, but i need Wireless -B Broadband Router, my network card is Wireless -G Notebook Adapter (works with B) |
| 16:46.28 | h08817 | well i can't do man b/c i can't even get into linux |
| 16:46.43 | antgel | !googlesmite h08817 |
| 16:46.48 | antgel | what is up with people? |
| 16:47.03 | ranDom | h08817, fsck is a disk check utility |
| 16:47.09 | greycat | File System ChecK |
| 16:47.10 | h08817 | very funny all |
| 16:47.17 | antgel | not funny at all |
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| 16:47.43 | greycat | if you can get *here*, you clearly have a second computer that could be reading manuals. |
| 16:47.48 | lakcaj | cahoot, thanks for the link. I had looked at that previously, maybe I'll give it another shot |
| 16:47.58 | h08817 | well for some reason i get a ext3_find_entry: reading directory #655393 0[fail]1 error |
| 16:48.15 | greycat | want to guess what the first google hit on "man fsck" gives me? |
| 16:48.34 | antgel | greycat: pr0n? |
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| 16:48.50 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.51 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.09 | greycat | amazing. I didn't even say "linux". |
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| 16:49.19 | jelly | h08817: your partition is having problems. You need to run fsck at reboot (when the system asks you to). |
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| 16:49.39 | h08817 | jelly: i tried and it gives me an error |
| 16:49.40 | greycat | if it's mounted read-only he can even run it right now. |
| 16:49.46 | cahoot | lakcaj: it's at least universally portable |
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| 16:50.08 | lakcaj | cahoot, true, and I'm sure it's hard to crash too, which some of these other apps have done to me |
| 16:50.21 | jelly | h08817: then, your partition is having BIG problems, or maybe the fsck binary itself is hosed. Try booting from CD. |
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| 16:50.49 | greycat | and have your last full backup ready. |
| 16:50.52 | atom-z | i just installed debian, but X doesnt work |
| 16:51.03 | gogo3or | greycat, hello |
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| 16:51.09 | resiak | !faq atom-z |
| 16:51.09 | dpkg | atom-z: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 16:51.14 | resiak | !tell atom-z -about doesn't work |
| 16:51.15 | h08817 | jelly: it says error reading block 29 |
| 16:51.21 | antgel | !tell atom-z about ask |
| 16:51.26 | cahoot | lakcaj: plain html so it's all up to the browser to keep up |
| 16:51.30 | antgel | !tell atom-z about reference |
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| 16:51.52 | atom-z | i want to know how to diable gdm |
| 16:51.55 | greycat | let's not get carried away here. |
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| 16:52.00 | greycat | atom-z: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 16:52.00 | resiak | !tell atom-z -about nodm |
| 16:52.00 | stew | atom-z: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 16:52.11 | xtz | Hi there, how do i set 1400x1050 screen resolution on X11 ? (i tried to change it in xfree86config.. but nothing works) |
| 16:52.21 | PeterB | !win resiak |
| 16:52.21 | dpkg | Congratulations, resiak! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 16:52.22 | jelly | h08817: what's before that error? |
| 16:52.24 | greycat | one would be tempted to ask, "WHY did you install gdm if your X didn't work yet?" |
| 16:52.34 | greycat | but then one would just get the same old tired shit. |
| 16:52.37 | atom-z | greycat, it was done automatically |
| 16:52.45 | atom-z | by the installer |
| 16:52.48 | greycat | like that. "I wanted GNOME!!!!!" |
| 16:52.52 | jethro | !!11!! |
| 16:52.58 | antgel | greycat: carried away? the reference is _superb_ and no fucker reads it (including me when i first installed debian) |
| 16:53.05 | karsten | greycat: No accounting for taste. |
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| 16:53.09 | h08817 | jelly: / contains a filesystem with errors |
| 16:53.10 | NLoRD | hello |
| 16:53.11 | greycat | antgel: 'carried away' as in four separate !tells |
| 16:53.29 | antgel | greycat: if the bot wasn't so clever etc :) |
| 16:53.40 | resiak | greycat: I wonder why exactly you are still in #debian so much, to be honest. Surely it does bad things to your blood pressure? |
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| 16:54.02 | NLoRD | is there a way to see files at iso8859-7 and utf8 at nautilus having as default utf8 at my system? |
| 16:54.21 | antgel | NLoRD: i don't really understand your questions |
| 16:54.42 | NLoRD | well I cannot see iso8859-7 file names :( |
| 16:54.49 | greycat | resiak: well, this one's partly the DDs' fault, since they're the ones that put gdm into one of the most popular tasksel categories, blithely assuming that the X config will work on the first try. |
| 16:55.10 | NLoRD | it says invalid encoding format at nautilus |
| 16:55.20 | NLoRD | I have utf8 as my default encoding |
| 16:55.23 | antgel | NLoRD: ah, and your system is set to utf-8. haven't got a clue mate. |
| 16:55.29 | greycat | xdm, kdm and gdm should NEVER be installed "automatically" (even for definitions of "automatically" that include clicking on "Desktop") |
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| 16:55.45 | antgel | it's auto_magic_ally |
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| 16:56.01 | keir | why wont hal mount my usb storage devices? |
| 16:56.06 | resiak | greycat: To be honest, though, I think that it's the right decision. Can you imagine the nightmare in here if GDM _wasn't_ magically installed? I suspect that we will never agree on this, though. |
| 16:56.12 | resiak | keir: adduser youruser plugdev ? |
| 16:56.21 | NLoRD | can anyone help me with this encoding problem? |
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| 16:56.35 | jelly | h08817: If I were you, I would boot from a rescue/install CD, and run fsck on that partition from there. BTW: Did you have a power failure before that? Is your PC overclocked? Can you check the cables? Do all the usual stuff you do when you suspect the hard drive is gone bad. |
| 16:56.40 | ecobit | where are the postrm scripts for installed packages located? |
| 16:56.47 | omgs | NLoRD: try "dpkg-reconfigure locales" |
| 16:56.50 | stew | ecobit: /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 16:56.51 | antgel | NLoRD: if the filenames are okay in ls, then i can only suggest that you join #kde or #gnome as i assume nautilus is part of that bloatware |
| 16:56.55 | fat | hi. i installed a new kernel, after that /dev/dsp (dsp0, 1, 2 and so on) is kind of unexisting. cat: /dev/dsp0: No such device. still i can play music with xmms and other apps using alsa...how can it be? |
| 16:57.01 | antgel | omgs: you didn't listen to his problem |
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| 16:57.08 | greycat | resiak: I'd rather tell people "apt-get install xdm" than try to help them fix a broken gdm that won't let them boot. |
| 16:57.13 | omgs | antgel: better than you |
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| 16:57.30 | keir | resiak, im already in that group |
| 16:57.35 | antgel | fat: did you install the relevant kernel modules? |
| 16:57.52 | atom-z | i tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but now its asking for BUS information, which i do not know. How can I make it run like it did the first time round? |
| 16:57.52 | fat | antgel, yeah i had the same config for the kernel as before, only added some sata support |
| 16:57.55 | resiak | greycat: That's fair enough, although if GDM fails to start it merely dumps them back where they would have been if it did not work after showing the X output, so I can't see how that's so bad. |
| 16:57.57 | antgel | omgs: i would love to continue but i will just /ignore you |
| 16:58.01 | gtk | Anyone knows how to correct the "driver appears confused" cdrom problem?! |
| 16:58.01 | NLoRD | I have enable both iso8859-7 and utf8 at dpkg-reconfigure locales omgs |
| 16:58.03 | greycat | fat: because /dev/dsp isn't the ALSA device. |
| 16:58.21 | omgs | antgel: listen to NLoRD, it wasn't nonsense |
| 16:58.28 | resiak | atom-z: You ignore that question, like it says you can. |
| 16:58.29 | jethro | resiak: in some circumstances, it just freezes your screen, and you can't do much |
| 16:58.34 | greycat | resiak: the problem is when gdm fires up a *broken* X that doesn't "just fail to start", but rather, locks up the display. |
| 16:58.42 | stew | fat: modprobe snd_pcm_oss |
| 16:58.43 | omgs | Ignore if you want, it's up to you |
| 16:58.48 | greycat | resiak: then they can't use Ctrl-Alt-F1 or anything. |
| 16:58.49 | xsdg | is there a way for me to install udev but sort of intercept the install scripts before they try to start the daemon? I want it to manage /udev or something like that so that I can see what I'm getting into without having a non-functioning system first |
| 16:58.57 | atom-z | ok |
| 16:58.59 | resiak | greycat, jethro: Ah. I can't say I've ever seen that, so. Then I'm more inclined to agree now. |
| 16:59.01 | jelly | dpkg, wtf is wtf |
| 16:59.02 | fat | wtf |
| 16:59.03 | dpkg | no binary found. |
| 16:59.03 | resiak | keir: Oh well. |
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| 16:59.11 | fat | stew, err not found.. how can that be? |
| 16:59.13 | fat | wtf |
| 16:59.17 | xsdg | heh |
| 16:59.18 | jethro | resiak: I've seen it with b0rked intel chips :) |
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| 16:59.23 | antgel | xsdg: not really, but unless you have one crazee system, it's unlikely to go _that_ wrong |
| 16:59.24 | stew | fat: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 16:59.27 | greycat | dpkg: apt-get install bsdgames |
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| 16:59.33 | Subson1x | vote on http://www.ubuntux.org/poll :) |
| 16:59.33 | fat | stew, that's the problem then.. 2.6.8 |
| 16:59.34 | resiak | jethro: Again, fair enough. |
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| 16:59.39 | Subson1x | stew: your kernel version |
| 16:59.58 | stew | fat: why not use a debian compiled kernel? |
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| 17:00.06 | gtk | Anyone knows how to correct the "driver appears confused" cdrom problem?! |
| 17:00.07 | fat | stew, but how come it's not there? i didnt change any of that in the new config for the kernel |
| 17:00.19 | stew | fat: why did you compile your kernel in the first place? |
| 17:00.23 | atom-z | resiak, it does not say it is skippable, It just says to enter your video card's bus identifier. |
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| 17:00.29 | antgel | gtk: you just asked a minute ago. |
| 17:00.42 | fat | stew, errr |
| 17:00.52 | fat | stew, can't remember exactly why |
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| 17:01.04 | antgel | aha, you were drunk |
| 17:01.09 | fat | maybe! |
| 17:01.09 | gtk | antgel: but i didnt get an answer |
| 17:01.22 | resiak | atom-z: "Users of machines other than PowerPCs or SGI Indigo2 XLs with only one video card should leave this entry blank." |
| 17:01.22 | antgel | gtk: no you didn't. what does that suggest to you? |
| 17:01.36 | antgel | !tell gtk about ask |
| 17:01.38 | gtk | antgel: that i shouldve had asked again |
| 17:01.38 | empty | oddly, I can not get bind9 to do zone xfers from a master with my lokkit IPtables rules in place, despite the fact I am forwarding port 53 TCP and UDP straight through... Anyone have an idea why that would be? |
| 17:01.40 | fat | stew, but what's that to do with this? everything worked perfectly fine before i recompiled it (using the _same_ config with a few additions) |
| 17:01.54 | antgel | gtk: ok, let's see if you were right. |
| 17:01.57 | fat | stew, i used the same kernel before |
| 17:02.00 | jethro | gtk: if you get no anwser, try asking in a better way |
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| 17:02.21 | gtk | jethro: okay.. |
| 17:02.21 | antgel | empty: checked the logs at both ends? |
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| 17:02.31 | empty | yeah |
| 17:02.32 | jethro | gtk: /msg dpkg smart questions may help you |
| 17:02.39 | stew | fat: oh, doh, try: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 17:02.58 | gtk | can anyone help me with a cdrom problem? |
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| 17:03.04 | jethro | gtk: "/msg dpkg smart questions" may help you even |
| 17:03.11 | fat | stew, it's not found.. |
| 17:03.14 | antgel | fat: if you use a kernel-image, you won't care |
| 17:03.16 | fat | which is _really_ strange |
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| 17:03.25 | pusling | is it possible to configure apt to accept apt-get insatll as apt-get install ? |
| 17:03.27 | antgel | gtk: did you read the factoid? |
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| 17:03.40 | jethro | !tell gtk -about smart questions |
| 17:03.45 | stew | fat: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name "snd*" | grep oss ; if its not in there then you need to install a new kernel |
| 17:03.49 | antgel | pusling: no, but i would love it if it took serach as search |
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| 17:03.56 | chandra | is there a way to autoconfigure my xfree86? |
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| 17:04.03 | resiak | pusling: Use zsh with its spelling correction stuff. |
| 17:04.04 | greycat | chandra: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 17:04.06 | ranDom | why my apt-get wont use debian-volatile for clamav update ? |
| 17:04.06 | redguy | !e17 |
| 17:04.06 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
| 17:04.08 | antgel | chandra: why would you want to? |
| 17:04.13 | atom-z | resiak, ah ok |
| 17:04.18 | pusling | antgel: perhaps we should commit a wish-list-item ? ;) |
| 17:04.22 | chandra | antgel, i screwd up my current config |
| 17:04.35 | empty | antgel, the master never sees the xfer request if I have lokkit on |
| 17:04.38 | antgel | chandra: so unscrew it. what greycat said. it's really not that hard |
| 17:04.45 | pusling | resiak: I don't know much about zsh yet .. |
| 17:04.48 | fat | stew, ok, not there. i should've known better. thanks for answering my utterly dumb question |
| 17:05.10 | resiak | pusling: just my suggestion. |
| 17:05.16 | antgel | empty: i'm not that familiar with the ins and outs of zone transfers but fix your firewall. tcpdump could be useful |
| 17:05.23 | antgel | pusling: indeed |
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| 17:05.30 | stew | fat: you could probably just apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-arch where arch is 686 or 386 or k7 or whatever and be done with it |
| 17:05.35 | alistair | Linuxant supports wireless? |
| 17:05.53 | empty | antgel, Yeah that was my next plan of attack- just thought it would be nice to see if anyone had a good answer |
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| 17:06.25 | stew | fat: unless you know a good reason why you recompiled your kernel in the first place |
| 17:06.28 | fat | stew, yeah i'll do that if it doesnt work after i've recompiled it |
| 17:06.47 | fat | stew, i had a good reason which i cant remember ;) |
| 17:06.52 | antgel | empty: i might have an iptables rule for zone transfers. is the problem firewall on the master or slave? |
| 17:07.05 | antgel | !beer fat |
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| 17:07.18 | fat | damn, feeling like a kid that's done something bad :P |
| 17:07.20 | fat | oo cheers |
| 17:07.22 | antgel | now he'll go and compile it again |
| 17:07.35 | xsdg | antgel: hmm; well the main issue is that I'm running devfs, and it seems like they might not play well together |
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| 17:08.04 | stew | empty: iirc zone transfers are tcp port 53 |
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| 17:08.27 | jimm | compiling things is OK. people telling you you should not do so are worried about whether they can figure out problems you might report later. |
| 17:08.41 | jimm | and I find that WEAK. |
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| 17:08.46 | antgel | xsdg: so remove devfs. udev is pretty stable |
| 17:08.46 | fat | jimm, a big hug for you |
| 17:08.47 | greycat | jimm: you help them, then. |
| 17:09.04 | antgel | jimm: no, we have better things to do, like tell you that we do |
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| 17:09.26 | atom-z | I can get X to start now, but a static, broken image is displayed on screen |
| 17:09.31 | jimm | why even have linux? |
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| 17:09.40 | adjacent | how do i set up my flash drive to automount when i insert it? |
| 17:09.42 | antgel | what? |
| 17:09.43 | jimm | that's what it is FOR |
| 17:09.51 | antgel | jesus |
| 17:10.03 | antgel | !tell adjacent about autofs |
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| 17:10.13 | Zweideutig | cobra1: WTF? |
| 17:10.20 | Zweideutig | Who is cobra1? |
| 17:10.25 | stew | jimm: that's not what linux is for. i'm suggesting that someone not compile a kernel becuase the last time they did they messed it up and most people that recompile their kernels don't have a good reason to do so |
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| 17:10.29 | antgel | i thought a compiler was FOR compiling |
| 17:10.34 | Zweideutig | WHO THE HELL IS cobra1? |
| 17:10.37 | Zweideutig | :| |
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| 17:10.44 | adjacent | ty |
| 17:10.44 | resiak | I'm Spartacus! |
| 17:10.46 | Zweideutig | cobra1: Why hola privmsg me? |
| 17:10.47 | nkuttler | Zweideutig: if he's annoying you tell us |
| 17:11.00 | nvz | I wonder why when lilo restarted the servers I wasnt joined to #debian, only #flood. I have both set to autojoin.. and my user mode is still +CEei |
| 17:11.02 | Zweideutig | nkuttler: Is he suppose to say hola privmsg me? |
| 17:11.09 | r3v | jimm: stew is a debian kernel nazi, he doesn't want anyone using anything else |
| 17:11.10 | stew | perhaps the new breed of spambot starts that the bottom of the alphabet |
| 17:11.13 | jimm | who is anyone else to judge whether someone else has a good reasont to do anything? |
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| 17:11.18 | jethro | Zweideutig: just /umode +E already, and quit whining |
| 17:11.18 | nkuttler | Zweideutig: just tell him not to |
| 17:11.20 | stew | r3v: godwin, you lose |
| 17:11.24 | phretor | hi there |
| 17:11.32 | jimm | ok, you know my position... I'm stopping here |
| 17:11.37 | antgel | jimm: indeed. think about it. |
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| 17:12.01 | Zweideutig | Always use Debian kernel. |
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| 17:12.09 | jimm | it's purely a support issue |
| 17:12.20 | phretor | currently, I compile and manage my own kernel image+modules through kernel-package. Is there any best practice about this? |
| 17:12.24 | jimm | Zweideutig: just as a data point... I don't :) |
| 17:12.30 | jethro | phretor: no |
| 17:12.35 | jimm | well, I take that back... |
| 17:12.35 | antgel | jimm: who are you to judge whether i have a good reason to inform someone that they shouldn't build a kernel? |
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| 17:12.57 | phretor | do I have to use debian kernel sources? |
| 17:13.07 | jethro | phretor: no you don't *have* to |
| 17:13.09 | a1fa | no |
| 17:13.12 | antgel | phretor: not if you have a good reason not to. |
| 17:13.29 | a1fa | no |
| 17:13.31 | jethro | phretor: fwiw, I don't use kernel-source packages, and build my custom kernels with kernel-package. |
| 17:13.36 | xsdg | antgel: sorry for the delayed responses; are you running udev? If so, could I see a `find` for /dev, please? (just to check for things that I might have to change in fstab and stuff) |
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| 17:13.52 | phretor | antgel: so, if I understand right, using kernel-source is a good practice if I don't need more |
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| 17:14.48 | antgel | phretor: yep. if using debian, it's in your interests to _use_ debian as much as possible. unless you don't need support here. NB better still to use kernel-image if you don't need to compile at all |
| 17:14.59 | jimm | phretor: you can use debian images (which is the most supportable thing to do), or you can build your own. If you build your own, using the debian sources applies some patches. using outside sources, you just get the plain kernel |
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| 17:15.07 | jethro | phretor: what's the point in building from kernel-source left as is, and not using kernel-image packages built off these kernel-source packages? |
| 17:15.10 | jelly | phretor: debian has had a history of inadequate security updates for kernel (including kernel-source), you might be better with using Linus' kernel (or whatever tree you use). |
| 17:15.12 | stew | r3v: by the way, i did try a kernel compiled specifically for my proc and i get the same exact discharge rates |
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| 17:15.22 | jethro | jelly: FUD |
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| 17:15.34 | jelly | jethro: I'm all ears. |
| 17:15.38 | r3v | stew: that's because you didn't listen to me and I just left. p4m != pm |
| 17:15.48 | stew | no, i did |
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| 17:16.01 | stew | and i have tried both with pm and p4m |
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| 17:16.07 | phretor | jethro: I like my own highly modular kernel configuration and I also need a patch for ipw2100 |
| 17:16.09 | antgel | xsdg: it's long. can email or dcc it to you |
| 17:16.21 | jelly | jethro: Or are you trying to say there were no problems with kernel during woody? |
| 17:16.22 | stew | r3v: and i still see no way that a compiler switch to gcc would have anything to do with battery life |
| 17:16.22 | r3v | stew: but your proc is p4m not pm... so you can't expect the pm stuff to work |
| 17:16.24 | xsdg | antgel: sure; xsdg@freenode.net |
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| 17:16.35 | stew | r3v: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz |
| 17:16.41 | antgel | phretor: default kernel is highly modular. patch is a different matter |
| 17:16.54 | Subson1x | which linux distribution should i start with (as a beginner), SuSE, Ubuntu or Debian? |
| 17:16.59 | r3v | stew: I don't think you have any ideas at all what you are talking about... that is not what you said last time |
| 17:16.59 | jimm | jelly: if you don't cite your sources on that, you're spreading fud... |
| 17:17.05 | samuel | Subson1x, Ubuntu |
| 17:17.07 | resiak | Subson1x: What answer do you _think_ we'll give? |
| 17:17.08 | r3v | stew: you know.. i'm just done even trying to help people |
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| 17:17.11 | abrotman | Subson1x: are you technically competent? |
| 17:17.13 | resiak | Oh wait, apparently not. |
| 17:17.13 | antgel | Subson1x: depends what kind of person you are. tell us more about yourself. |
| 17:17.15 | jethro | phretor: can you be more modular than debian is already with its kernel-image packages? |
| 17:17.16 | Subson1x | resiak: i heard Ubuntu :) |
| 17:17.18 | nkuttler | Subson1x: debian |
| 17:17.20 | jimm | so... stop fudding and start backing up your statement :) |
| 17:17.21 | stew | hopefully he's done with the FUD too |
| 17:17.21 | xsdg | samuel: what's that? in the corner! ;o) |
| 17:17.31 | Subson1x | abrotman: yep |
| 17:17.34 | phretor | antgel: my point is that I want full control over my kernel configuration, plus I need a patch |
| 17:17.39 | nvz | I almost killed my stupid ass |
| 17:17.42 | abrotman | Subson1x: if you're an 'advanced' windows user .. you'd probably be OK with debian .. wait .. can you read? |
| 17:17.47 | xsdg | nvz: eh? |
| 17:17.52 | samuel | xsdg, its easier to install ubuntu than debian, you must admit |
| 17:17.52 | phretor | jethro: I hate initr.d and related stuff |
| 17:18.01 | nvz | xsdg: opened a container of oxidizer indoors |
| 17:18.06 | xsdg | samuel: never used it |
| 17:18.06 | abrotman | samuel: i disagree .. since they use THE SAME INSTALLER |
| 17:18.13 | Subson1x | abrotman: i can read, OK. that should be no problem :) |
| 17:18.14 | antgel | phretor: patch i understand. as for wanting full control, fine, but if i didn't _need_ full control, i wouldn't give a toss. better things to do etc. |
| 17:18.15 | xsdg | nvz: ouch; concentrated? |
| 17:18.16 | jimm | phretor: hmm, debian uses that... are you sure you want debian? |
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| 17:18.34 | nvz | xsdg: yeah highly concentrated |
| 17:18.35 | abrotman | Subson1x: you have broadband? .. the worst that happens is you try debian .. and realize you're not quite up to that level yet .. but there's no reason you can't try |
| 17:18.50 | jethro | phretor: as for ipw2100, why don't you just use ipw2100-source provided by debian? |
| 17:18.51 | xsdg | nvz: you ok? |
| 17:18.52 | nvz | takes your breath right away |
| 17:18.59 | nvz | xsdg: yeah I made it outside |
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| 17:19.04 | phretor | jimm: I've never tried a different distribution: debian is my god |
| 17:19.23 | antgel | Subson1x: i say go with debian. just make sure you read the install guide and reference so you don't annoy me. :) |
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| 17:19.41 | abrotman | !ig |
| 17:19.41 | dpkg | methinks ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 17:19.56 | phretor | jethro: isn't it a patch? It can be compiled separately, I know |
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| 17:20.00 | nvz | that stuff is no joke. makes the air just dissapear it seems |
| 17:20.12 | jethro | phretor: ipw2100-source is not a patch |
| 17:20.17 | cahoot | a vacuum maker wow |
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| 17:20.37 | antgel | anyone care if i remove woody from ig factoid? |
| 17:20.41 | abrotman | nvz: now you just need a dilitium crystal |
| 17:20.50 | abrotman | antgel: for now .. leave it .. woody is still being supported |
| 17:20.54 | nvz | when a container has an MSDS warning of "Oxidizer 5.1" you might want to leave the fucker closed :) |
| 17:21.11 | phretor | jethro: do you have to use ipw2100? |
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| 17:21.27 | xsdg | nvz: well, it probably hooks up with the O2 in the air |
| 17:21.35 | antgel | xsdg: mailed it |
| 17:21.40 | samuel | abrotman, they do not do they? i remember when i tried ubuntu it was quite alot easier... that was a while ago, memory could be bad... |
| 17:21.58 | abrotman | samuel: compared to what? woody? .. hoary uses the sarge installer |
| 17:22.09 | xsdg | antgel: thanks muchly |
| 17:22.13 | antgel | installing debian is not hard unless you are the kind of person that walks around with your eyes shut |
| 17:22.23 | jethro | phretor: I'm not sure I understand your question. |
| 17:22.30 | nvz | its about 70% Calcium Hypoclorite |
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| 17:22.51 | nvz | Hypochlorite even |
| 17:22.55 | xsdg | nvz: O_O |
| 17:22.55 | samuel | abrotman, didnt know that... memory must be bad... |
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| 17:23.03 | cahoot | nvz: out of interest what's its intended use? |
| 17:23.04 | abrotman | samuel: or you're just wrong :) |
| 17:23.14 | xsdg | cahoot: killing things ;o) |
| 17:23.21 | antgel | jethro: so we have now established that you can use kernel images. you must be so relieved to not have to recompile |
| 17:23.21 | Subson1x | is there a site for debian similar to www.ubuntux.org for ubuntu? (newsfeed, blogs, forums, etc.) |
| 17:23.22 | nvz | cahoot: well now I have no use for it, but it used to be for killing things |
| 17:23.36 | jethro | antgel: wtf are you talking about? |
| 17:23.38 | antgel | Subson1x: have you explored debian.org? |
| 17:23.41 | antgel | oops |
| 17:23.45 | xsdg | Subson1x: there used to be debian.net; not sure if it's still around |
| 17:23.50 | samuel | abrotman, no, thats not it... not possible :) |
| 17:23.55 | abrotman | Subson1x: this channel .. or |
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| 17:23.56 | nvz | cahoot: like algae and micro organizms |
| 17:23.56 | abrotman | !forums |
| 17:23.56 | dpkg | [forums] http://forums.debian.net/ http://www.debianhelp.org/ http://www.debianplanet.org/, or http://www.debianforums.org (basically dead) |
| 17:23.58 | antgel | s/jethro/phretor |
| 17:24.09 | abrotman | samuel: or you were just wrong again .... |
| 17:24.14 | Subson1x | xsdg: it's down :( |
| 17:24.27 | abrotman | Subson1x: see the forums above |
| 17:24.29 | antgel | Subson1x: debian people tend to not be web forum types. more mailing lists and here |
| 17:24.32 | samuel | abrotman, smartass |
| 17:24.35 | phretor | jethro: forget it :-) my *main* question is; I'd like to migrate from my approach (no initrd, kernel compiling through kernel-package, etc) to the debian approach (kernel-image and all the required stuff). I'd like to make this transition in a safe manner. How about this? |
| 17:24.38 | Subson1x | abrotman: thx |
| 17:24.38 | abrotman | samuel: or right! |
| 17:24.56 | cahoot | nvz: creating pcb in the process I take it |
| 17:25.04 | samuel | abrotman, :) |
| 17:25.04 | antgel | phretor: i'm not jethro, but all you need to do is install the kernel-image |
| 17:25.16 | phretor | antgel: :-) |
| 17:25.17 | jethro | phretor: I'd just install kernel-image-$foo. I couldn't really tell you, the only kernel-image I've ever used was the installers |
| 17:25.23 | stew | phretor: just use --initrd on the make-kpkg command line and make sure your boot loader knows about the initrd |
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| 17:25.39 | jethro | phretor: but for sure, I'll avoid using initrd as often as possible |
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| 17:25.57 | antgel | phretor: kernel-image does have an initrd, which used to annoy me, but i can live with that as it is outweighed by benefit of not building the thing |
| 17:26.03 | xsdg | abrotman: does etch not have an install guide yet? |
| 17:26.05 | nvz | cahoot: I dunno I didnt pay much attention in chemistry I dont recognize "pcb". My cousin Joe is a chemistry teacher a few blocks up the road at the high school though |
| 17:26.10 | antgel | phretor: do you boot that often? ;) |
| 17:26.11 | abrotman | xsdg: uhm .. dunno .. let's see |
| 17:26.22 | phretor | antgel: not so often |
| 17:26.31 | abrotman | xsdg: 404 for testing/manual |
| 17:26.31 | subgv | Is it possible to switch the network card interfaces like eth1 -> eth0, and that eth0 -> eth1? |
| 17:26.32 | stew | xsdg: my guidance to you would be to install sarge and dist-upgrade |
| 17:26.36 | CyzarX | anybody setup wiki in their debian before? can give advice ? |
| 17:26.53 | Caelum | subgv: it depends on which module you load first |
| 17:27.00 | jelly | phretor: initrd is not much use if you don't have to support booting from different hardware... and even that, I wouldn't use it if I had only 2-3 machines. |
| 17:27.02 | xsdg | stew: I just install SID, but that's sort of beside the point; I was looking at updating the ig factoid |
| 17:27.06 | phretor | jethro: I'm afraid of boot loading problems I experienced last year, because of initrd: my boot loader (LILO) wasn't aware of that |
| 17:27.07 | antgel | phretor: just have a go. of course you may want to download the wireless source package first so that you can build it against the new kernel |
| 17:27.11 | stew | xsdg: etch installer has been sketchy recently |
| 17:27.11 | subgv | Caelum: so I have to check out the /etc/moudle files huh? |
| 17:27.13 | stew | xsdg: ahh, ok |
| 17:27.25 | antgel | phretor: kernel-images just work with lilo and grub |
| 17:27.29 | abrotman | stew: it still is |
| 17:27.48 | stew | antgel: not necessarily with lilo |
| 17:27.49 | phretor | antgel: do I have to care about initrd stuff? |
| 17:27.50 | abrotman | xsdg: if you check http://www.us.debian.org/releases/testing/ .. that's all you get :) |
| 17:27.51 | antgel | CyzarX: yes. decide what wiki you want, install it, and read the documentation. |
| 17:27.58 | Caelum | subgv: try unloading them and reloading them in a different order to see if it will make a difference, see if the driver docs have any options too |
| 17:27.59 | antgel | stew: ime it works |
| 17:28.25 | xsdg | abrotman: aah :o) |
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| 17:28.44 | antgel | phretor: no, the kernel-image should put the relevant stanzas in lilo.conf (but see what stew said). you could also join the 21st century and install grub. |
| 17:28.52 | stew | antgel: unless things changed in the last year or so, installing a kernel image won't add an initrd line to your lilo.conf if there wasn't one there already |
| 17:29.15 | abrotman | stew: it used to update the symlinks .. i don't think they do anymore |
| 17:29.22 | antgel | stew: didn't know that. do recall some severe initrd-related lilo warnings when _building_ a kernel |
| 17:29.32 | phretor | antgel: hehe, I know but I'm quite afraid about changing those critical (booting, etc) stuff :-) |
| 17:29.39 | antgel | stew: he'll be okay, he's built a kernel ;) |
| 17:29.45 | Caelum | subgv: yours could always be loaded by hotplug or whatever the other thingy is, but you can always override that by loading them yourself first |
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| 17:30.02 | stew | antgel: yeah the warnings were there becuase it wasn't putting the initrd line there for you |
| 17:30.04 | antgel | phretor: i wouldn't worry. the kernel-image install won't overwrite your custom kernel stanza in lilo.conf |
| 17:30.06 | nvz | well I dont use this other head as much as I thought I would.. but when I do its a big help |
| 17:30.10 | antgel | stew: aha :) |
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| 17:30.33 | CyzarX | antgel, how many wiki does debian offer? |
| 17:30.38 | antgel | CyzarX: lots |
| 17:30.44 | JonnyRo | How can i extract a debian package so i can view it's post installation scripts? I cant figure out why a postinstallation script is failing |
| 17:30.50 | quittt | how do I mount ipod? |
| 17:30.51 | phretor | antgel: I don't care too much of my (old) kernel stanzas. I care much of my MBR :-) |
| 17:30.52 | subgv | Caelum: nice, but I thought there is a file in /etc that lets me input the mac address and they will be switched. I forgot the file name =( ... something *map* |
| 17:30.52 | JonnyRo | it just says subprocess returned error code 255 |
| 17:30.54 | abrotman | JonnyRo: ar x |
| 17:30.59 | JonnyRo | abauer, thanks |
| 17:30.59 | antgel | JonnyRo: dpkg -x (man dpkg) |
| 17:31.07 | CyzarX | antgel, which one is the most easy to install and offer a lot of features? also can host it as soon as possible ? can u name me a few please ? |
| 17:31.07 | abrotman | abauer: you're the best! |
| 17:31.10 | empty | CyzarX, 'apt-cache search wiki' |
| 17:31.12 | stew | JonnyRo: /var/lib/dpkg/info/pkgname.postinst |
| 17:31.16 | Caelum | subgv: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:31.24 | phretor | antgel: anyway, is there any reason for using GRUB instead of LILO? |
| 17:31.26 | wols | CyzarX: apt-cache search wiki |
| 17:31.38 | abrotman | phretor: numerous arguments on both sides |
| 17:31.39 | Caelum | subgv: but that doesn't let you choose which nic is eth0 or eth1 |
| 17:31.42 | antgel | phretor: yes but your mbr is only based on lilo.conf. i won't be responsible if you fuck your box up, but i'm sure you'll be fine. |
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| 17:31.47 | antgel | phretor: yes, lots of reasons |
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| 17:31.50 | empty | phretor, many reasons- my primary one is you don't have to rewrite your MBR when you change the config |
| 17:31.55 | JonnyRo | stew, reading now, thanks |
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| 17:32.05 | nvz | I may be looking at the same screen session on two different monitors but I can have two different psuedo-transparent background images ;) |
| 17:32.09 | antgel | i like the fact that you can edit boot options at boot time |
| 17:32.18 | antgel | abrotman: didn't know there was a lilo camp any more |
| 17:32.21 | Caelum | grub lets you have a nifty pixmap menu on boot :) |
| 17:32.35 | empty | antgel, sadly I have a tent in that camp |
| 17:32.38 | abrotman | antgel: i used to swear by it .. but with sarge .. it got .. iffy |
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| 17:33.04 | CyzarX | empty, wols, yes i knkow apt-caceh search wiki. but i dont knwok which one offer the critierias i need |
| 17:33.07 | empty | antgel, my new bladeservers have issues due to a USB CDROM/Floppy media tray |
| 17:33.07 | stew | phretor: if it is a local machine (like you are on the console) then what I used to do when i used lilo was to just make sure i had initrd and non-initrd versions of both Linux and Linux-old so I should always have something bootable |
| 17:33.13 | CyzarX | antgel, can u suggest me a few ? |
| 17:33.24 | antgel | CyzarX: i use twiki. if that is any reason for you to use it, i don't know what to say. |
| 17:33.26 | empty | CyzarX, run them through apt-cache show then |
| 17:33.33 | phretor | antgel, stew, empty, abrotman, jethro: does the grup installation care about replacing all needed stuff for migrating from LILO to GRUB? |
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| 17:33.52 | abrotman | all needed stuff? |
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| 17:34.04 | antgel | phretor: after you install the package, look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/grub |
| 17:34.06 | stew | phretor: /msg dpkg lilo->grub |
| 17:34.07 | phretor | abrotman: all you'll need to perform the transition |
| 17:34.21 | quittt | how do I mount an ipod? |
| 17:34.47 | antgel | i don't like that factoid. seems reckless to recomment purging lilo. |
| 17:34.51 | empty | quittt, think they show up on the SCSI bus as a USB storage device under 2.6 |
| 17:34.52 | Caelum | quittt: like a firewire hd, it will show up as a scsi device |
| 17:34.53 | antgel | recommen_d_ |
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| 17:35.13 | stew | empty: iirc there was something in this weeks DWN about installing on blades |
| 17:35.18 | Caelum | quittt: tail your syslog to see if the kernel recognizes it when you plug it in |
| 17:35.21 | jerry_ | I installed a new server for a game and the char shuts down due to not being able to write to the files i tried changing the mode and verified with ls-al and it seems to have all the modes and grp/usr is my local account running the service is there anything i am overlooking? |
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| 17:35.30 | nvz | quittt: depends on the format some come formatted for Windows some come formatted for Mac |
| 17:35.32 | antgel | clarity |
| 17:35.32 | phretor | stew: how do I make sure of that? (=having both initrd and non-initrd of linux(-old)) |
| 17:35.47 | empty | stew, Sun blades yes |
| 17:36.03 | antgel | !topicsmite CyzarX |
| 17:36.03 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon CyzarX. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 17:36.07 | empty | stew, I have IBM Bladecenter blades |
| 17:36.09 | stew | phretor: make a copy of the Linux stanza, call it Linux-initrd and add to it a line that says initrd=/initrd.img |
| 17:36.23 | stew | empty: oh well |
| 17:36.24 | antgel | !tell CyzarX about msg |
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| 17:36.43 | abrotman | phretor: it's basically `apt-get install grub;update-grub;grub-install /dev/hda` .. hda obviously being your primary booting HDD .. so could be sda etc .. and you'd have to edit /etc/boot/menu.lst with any special things you need |
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| 17:37.02 | CyzarX | very well antgel |
| 17:37.12 | empty | stew, the main issue is the sarge install cd sees the drive as sda when installing but afterwards it sees the first scsi disk as sda |
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| 17:37.27 | jerry_ | Anyone? |
| 17:37.27 | CyzarX | antgel, after apt-get install twiki. is it ready to run on the spot? or do i have to create the interface and so on ? |
| 17:37.30 | jelly | Is there an alternate URL for http://newraff.debian.org/~joeyh/testing-security.html |
| 17:37.31 | phretor | stew: does kernel-image install that initrd img? |
| 17:37.54 | antgel | CyzarX: it pretty much runs out of the box |
| 17:37.56 | empty | phretor, it should yes, but not the line in LILO |
| 17:38.12 | CyzarX | antgel, thanks! i will give it a try then |
| 17:38.12 | quittt | nvz, it is on Windows |
| 17:38.16 | phretor | empty: ok ok, I'll check for that stanza |
| 17:38.29 | jerry_ | .... ok ... well thanks anyways guys |
| 17:38.32 | stew | phretor: a debian compiled one would, one compiled by you would if you compiled with --initrd |
| 17:38.37 | antgel | CyzarX: really recommend you visit some wiki sites and compare features. i'm not a wiki geek so don't care that much. |
| 17:38.40 | jelly | nevermind, found it at http://merkel.debian.org/~joeyh/testing-security.html |
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| 17:38.57 | antgel | jerry_: your question was lengthy but cryptic |
| 17:38.58 | CyzarX | antgel, can u recomend the site offer comparision among wiki ? |
| 17:39.04 | phretor | stew: ok, got it |
| 17:39.18 | stew | empty: after the install is done, boot the install cd again and hit alt-f2 to get a shell, and fix the bootloader/fstab in a chroot |
| 17:39.19 | antgel | CyzarX: google or visit each wiki homepage |
| 17:39.19 | nvz | quittt: load usb-storage drivers, mount it as vfat. IIRC when I did my friend's there were two partitions I think the first one is a small settings partition and the 2nd is the data partition. look at dmesg for the device name and fdisk -l to check |
| 17:39.45 | phretor | what's the difference between kernel-/linux-image? |
| 17:39.59 | antgel | phretor: linux-image is newer |
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| 17:40.10 | jerry_ | antgel - my apologies ok well i'll tidy it up i have a program shutting down cause i can't write to certain files i changed the modes grp and owner and verified the changed took but the program still cannot write to the files.. Is there anything i'm overlooking |
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| 17:40.21 | antgel | for when we get the choice between hurd, freebsd, palmos, my washing machine etc |
| 17:40.38 | jak2000 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/9iOby765.html <--- i waant isntall my 3com network card, how? |
| 17:40.44 | abrotman | phretor: nothing .. there are other kernels that can be used with Debian .. so linux-image says it's a linux kernel instead of say a HURD-image |
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| 17:40.54 | antgel | jerry_: clarity. _what_ files? what user does the program run as? |
| 17:40.59 | abrotman | jak2000: says it's tulip |
| 17:41.08 | abrotman | jak2000: do you really need three NICs? |
| 17:41.20 | jerry_ | accounts.txt it's a txt driven database |
| 17:41.25 | antgel | the more the merrier |
| 17:41.28 | scenestar | i see |
| 17:41.36 | Morti | Maybe he doesn't want to have to get a switch? ;) |
| 17:41.38 | jak2000 | abrotman, not |
| 17:41.42 | abrotman | not? |
| 17:41.44 | jak2000 | but need 2 |
| 17:41.48 | abrotman | don't be vague |
| 17:41.49 | jak2000 | and only know 1 |
| 17:41.51 | abrotman | you have three in there |
| 17:41.59 | phretor | I'm gonna install kernel-image-2.6-386 and APT is getting cramfsprogs, dash, initrd-tools, kernel-image-2.6-386, linux-image-2.6-386, linux-image-2.6.12-386. Is that right? |
| 17:41.59 | antgel | jerry_: wtf? what user does the program run as? ls -l on the data? |
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| 17:42.14 | Unified | hi |
| 17:42.21 | jerry_ | it runs under my "jerry" account |
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| 17:42.28 | Unified | is speedstep in any way configured in the debian kernels? |
| 17:42.30 | antgel | phretor: yep. good luck. |
| 17:42.45 | antgel | jerry_: what about the ls -l? |
| 17:42.46 | jak2000 | antgel, ok, how use tulip? |
| 17:42.52 | jelly | phretor: looks fine. You might want -686, though? Do you have something newer than Pentium II? |
| 17:43.01 | antgel | חשל: |
| 17:43.01 | jerry_ | antgel - -rw-rwxrwx 1 jerry jerry 1416 2005-08-26 10:33 account.txt |
| 17:43.04 | antgel | fuck |
| 17:43.09 | greycat | those are some fucked up perms. |
| 17:43.12 | antgel | jak2000: not for me |
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| 17:43.14 | phretor | jelly: actually, I use a Centrino |
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| 17:43.22 | greycat | 677? bizarre. |
| 17:43.31 | scenestar | phretor: try apt-cache seacrh kernel-image first |
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| 17:43.40 | phretor | scenestar: already done |
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| 17:43.49 | scenestar | centrino is 686 |
| 17:43.52 | phretor | jelly: so I guess that *-686 would be better |
| 17:44.05 | abrotman | jak2000: apt-get install discover |
| 17:44.08 | antgel | jerry_: why is it executable, for starters? and can you touch a new file in the same directory as accounts.txt? |
| 17:44.20 | jelly | phretor: yep, use -386 only if you must |
| 17:44.23 | greycat | and has he read Permissions on the wiki yet? |
| 17:44.32 | phretor | jelly: got it, thanks |
| 17:44.36 | jak2000 | abrotman i am not in internet the server.. |
| 17:44.44 | abrotman | jak2000: what is your first language? |
| 17:45.09 | jak2000 | spanish |
| 17:45.14 | rbd | with the debian package preinst and postinst maintainer scripts, are there variables that are filled with the version we're upgrading to and the version we're upgrading from in the case of an upgrade? (i.e. how could I get this info in one of those scripts) |
| 17:45.15 | antgel | greycat: i don't reckon. not to mention unix lessons. |
| 17:45.27 | greycat | !wikifaq * Permissions |
| 17:45.28 | dpkg | *: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:45.31 | abrotman | !es |
| 17:45.31 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:45.39 | greycat | it's also at wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions |
| 17:45.43 | antgel | rbd: i don't know, but the debian developer documentation might |
| 17:45.50 | jerry_ | antgel - O.o yea the dir still has root |
| 17:45.52 | abrotman | jak2000: or use google .. try to find someone with the same card that lists which driver they use |
| 17:46.03 | antgel | !tell jerry_ about unix lessons |
| 17:46.05 | eng | lineakd use kaffeine? |
| 17:46.06 | jelly | phretorEAT: and check that lilo has a initrd=... clause for the kernel you're going to boot into. (The packages are going to warn you about that too.) |
| 17:46.18 | jelly | wtf |
| 17:46.23 | jelly | phretorEAT: and check that lilo has a initrd=... clause for the kernel you're going to boot into. (The packages are going to warn you about that too.) |
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| 17:46.50 | jelly | where did that EAT come from? |
| 17:46.54 | greycat | 13:45 phretor is now known as phretorEAT |
| 17:46.55 | PeterB | jelly: 20:53 -!- phretor is now known as phretorEAT |
| 17:47.03 | greycat | PeterB: your clock's a bit off. |
| 17:47.05 | jelly | Oh, my client is smarter than me |
| 17:47.13 | PeterB | greycat: I know. |
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| 17:47.25 | antgel | jelly: not necessarily, just more accurate |
| 17:47.30 | greycat | !set the time |
| 17:47.31 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 17:47.37 | nvz | I need to work out some simple way of logging in and out of my workstation now. I havent logged out in 3 days because I am now using a synergy station and I cant think of an easy way to make it reconnect when I login.. or furthermore how to login on a machine with no input devices :P |
| 17:47.42 | ArtistAgent | OK i hope this isnt too stupid of a question, but I have the problem of a full hard disk drive and dont know what data is taking up all that space. When i do "df-h" it shows one partition and a swapfile but when i do a "hwinfo" it shows two (im assuming extra) partitions on hda2 and hda5 other than that i have no idea why my hdd is so full i have slimlined on *. deb packages and the apt cache |
| 17:48.05 | antgel | !tell ArtistAgent about du |
| 17:48.08 | PeterB | greycat: I also know how to fix it, just don't want to. If I set it right, I quite often am late. |
| 17:48.11 | Unified | df shows only the partitions which are mounted |
| 17:48.15 | greycat | ArtistAgent: ls /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 17:48.24 | Unified | where hwinfo shows all partitions on the hdd |
| 17:48.28 | antgel | !disk space |
| 17:48.28 | dpkg | Use df(1) to see a summary of the disk space used and remaining across all file systems. Use "cd /foo && du -kx --max-depth=1" to see which subdirectories of /foo are using lots of space. (You can sort it with -n, too, if you wish.) |
| 17:48.38 | stew | crap: localhost kernel: CPU1: Temperature above threshold |
| 17:48.39 | jelly | nvz: why would you login on a machine with no input? ;-) |
| 17:48.50 | nvz | jelly: its a synergy station |
| 17:49.08 | nvz | jelly: the input is on the server the rest dont have input |
| 17:49.22 | nvz | jelly: they connect to the synergy server for input instructions |
| 17:49.38 | ArtistAgent | ah i see thanks guys i appreciate it. :) lots |
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| 17:49.59 | abrotman | stew: you named a machine 'crap' ? |
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| 17:50.12 | stew | abrotman: renaming it currently |
| 17:50.13 | scenestar | well why not? |
| 17:50.22 | jelly | nvz: would a really stupid solution involving a custom script in inittab work? |
| 17:50.23 | empty | stew, actually I did just thatand it worked fine |
| 17:50.26 | abrotman | stew: to what ? "Flaming bag of shit" ? :) |
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| 17:50.42 | scenestar | nah, rename it to "soon to be on fire" |
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| 17:51.15 | jelly | nvz: er. I'm not sure I got you right. Don't know anything about synergy. |
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| 17:51.50 | abrotman | jelly: synergy2.sf.net |
| 17:51.50 | nvz | jelly: not sure on the server side its as simple as putting the synergys -n right in the xsession, but on the client(s) I am not sure how I would even login much less connect to the server. currently I have a half broken keyboard sitting on top that I login with but that makes me reluctant to login/out when I have to do it on two different machines. |
| 17:52.04 | CyzarX | antgel, are u using apache2 or apache1.xx ?? |
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| 17:52.07 | nvz | jelly: if I could do it maybe with ssh it wouldnt be so bad |
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| 17:52.16 | nvz | jelly: I just dont have any ideas. |
| 17:52.32 | miguelanxo | how can I unblank a console remotely? |
| 17:52.41 | miguelanxo | I must turn on a blanked VGA display, cause I'm using it's output to do some signal processing |
| 17:53.11 | antgel | !tell CyzarX about u |
| 17:53.26 | nvz | jelly: the X server must be running as the user running synergy before its run.. it connects to running X sessions, the server sends input to clients when you go across a screen boundry. like I currently have two screens side by side. when I take the mouse off the left edge of the server screen it starts sending all input to the client's x server |
| 17:53.26 | abrotman | and it's apache 1.3.xx |
| 17:54.02 | CyzarX | LoL |
| 17:54.03 | antgel | CyzarX: apache 2 |
| 17:54.03 | abrotman | !lol |
| 17:54.03 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line. Everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a Knoppix user. |
| 17:54.03 | abrotman | woohoo! |
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| 17:54.12 | antgel | have a good weekend all |
| 17:54.15 | mfrisch | :-) |
| 17:54.15 | CyzarX | mmm..according to the twiki, it isnt run on apache2 |
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| 17:55.07 | CyzarX | anyway , thaks antgel :) |
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| 17:55.36 | esk | is there a text-based jabber client that supports TLS in Debian? (ie works with google) |
| 17:55.45 | abrotman | esk: maybe centericq ? |
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| 17:56.16 | esk | abrotman: I haven't been able to get it to work, although it is linked against gnutls |
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| 17:56.34 | abrotman | esk: i can't get logged in at all .. :) |
| 17:56.34 | jelly | nvz: so you want to autostart the synergy clients when you login to the synergy server? What's to stop you from using ssh? |
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| 17:58.05 | donw | What's the 'Debian-Approved' way to install new fonts on Debian? I've got a small mountain of .ttfs here, and rather than shoving them into /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts... |
| 17:58.12 | abrotman | !ttf |
| 17:58.12 | dpkg | [ttf] the extension of a True Type Font, checkout freetype or ask me about truetype for location of debian howto. for truetype font support with XF4 ask me about ttf xf4, or see <msttcorefonts>, or see <bobfont> |
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| 17:58.18 | nvz | jelly: I want to be able to login on the server from gdm like I used to and have the other machine logon too and connect as if I were still using one system ideally |
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| 17:58.39 | nvz | jelly: I just cant see how this is even possible |
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| 17:58.52 | donw | dpkg: I know how to get them working; I want to know if there's a way I can roll them up so Defoma can handle them. |
| 17:59.22 | drac | donw: dpkg is a bot. |
| 17:59.41 | donw | I meant to send that to 'abrotman'. Need more coffee... |
| 18:00.01 | abrotman | donw: uhm .. |
| 18:00.03 | atom-z | I cant get Xwindows to work, and the nvidia drivers wont build |
| 18:00.12 | greycat | atom-z: using the nvidia one-liner? |
| 18:00.18 | abrotman | donw: i thought you just dropped them in .. but i'm not a font person |
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| 18:00.22 | atom-z | what's that? |
| 18:00.25 | greycat | !nvidia one-liner |
| 18:00.25 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 18:00.49 | greycat | (it's an "installing gentoo only needs 3 commands" type of line.) |
| 18:01.05 | jelly | nvz: do you have ssh access to other machines? You could run a script from your .xsession that would ssh to the other machines, and run your stuff there. Probably be easier if those did not already have a running X session (no *dm already running) |
| 18:01.15 | atom-z | I cant find a mirror for debian-amd64 which has a non-free section |
| 18:01.30 | greycat | oh, amd64! ask #debian-amd64 then. |
| 18:01.38 | atom-z | ok |
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| 18:02.16 | atom-z | thing is, i'm used to mandrake... debian is quite a step (if its up or down, i'm not sure yet) |
| 18:02.33 | nvz | jelly: yeah that would be fine I could loose the dm on the clients and use ssh if I could figure out how. I just dont know how I could start and X session remotely through ssh |
| 18:02.56 | nvz | jelly: the client is 100% useless without the server there is no reason to have a dm |
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| 18:03.37 | maja | any one know why /var/lib/dpkg/available would be giveing apt-get greaf ? |
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| 18:04.03 | jelly | nvz: sure you could, it's just a process. Might have to edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config, or somehow convince X you're running from console. |
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| 18:04.30 | arango | can AVI files contain dts audio ? |
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| 18:04.51 | nvz | jelly: yeah thats the part I wasnt sure about. cause it says I am not allowed if I try start X from ssh. and even so if I do. wouldnt it terminated the session when I close ssh? |
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| 18:05.19 | samuel | anybody here who uses beagle know if it ever stops using up the whole CPU when you delete something from the disk? |
| 18:05.32 | mfrisch | nvz using ssh -X |
| 18:05.33 | nvz | jelly: I mean if I could somehow start X from ssh and tunnel the synergy through there as well that would be even better then its more secure, and when I close the ssh session it logs out |
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| 18:06.07 | nvz | mfrisch: I am not looking to forward X through ssh though just want to start it remotely on synergy clients |
| 18:06.21 | nvz | perhaps forwarding synergy but not X |
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| 18:07.20 | EmleyMoor | xchat is resolving servers to 1.0.0.0 - it works fine if I resolve them with host on same machine and use the IP address - why would xchat do it wrong? |
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| 18:08.33 | mfrisch | nvz maybe a script on the clients to startx ?? |
| 18:09.07 | jelly | nvz: eh, I just tried "ssh root@mymachine xinit -- :1" and it didn't really work. But I think is doable. |
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| 18:09.32 | nvz | well anyhow I am going to leave for awhile I will think about it in more later. there's got to be a good way of logging in on a synergy server and having it also logon on the clients, starting X and forwarding synergy connections to the server through ssh |
| 18:09.41 | greycat | EmleyMoor: /etc/hosts? |
| 18:10.11 | EmleyMoor | greycat: Virtually nothing in it |
| 18:10.29 | greycat | EmleyMoor: is 1.0.0.0 in it? |
| 18:10.32 | EmleyMoor | (certainly, nothing which would make that happen) |
| 18:10.33 | EmleyMoor | No |
| 18:10.45 | nvz | synergy only transfers input so its not really a big deal, as long as you dont type passwords into it or something. but having it tunneled through ssh would be better I am sure |
| 18:10.47 | greycat | do other irc clients fail? how about ping? |
| 18:11.04 | EmleyMoor | Everything else looks fine |
| 18:11.12 | greycat | reportbug time! |
| 18:11.20 | nvz | currently if I need to use a password on a client I use ssh anyhow instead of typing it over synergy |
| 18:11.34 | greycat | EmleyMoor: oh... did you upgrade libc recently? |
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| 18:11.52 | EmleyMoor | greycat: Not unless it was recently upgraded in stable |
| 18:11.53 | shark_ | hi, anyone knows about SAP.com ? |
| 18:12.03 | greycat | EmleyMoor: that'd be a "no", then :) |
| 18:12.29 | greycat | shark_: looks like a domain name. |
| 18:12.41 | shark_ | greycat, how about the software, SAP |
| 18:12.50 | shark_ | greycat, did you heard about it? |
| 18:12.52 | mfrisch | voip? |
| 18:12.54 | greycat | big expensive commericial proprietary crap? |
| 18:12.59 | greycat | aye. I've heard of it. |
| 18:13.03 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... not sure other irc clients are OK |
| 18:13.06 | shark_ | greycat, hehe.. i believe =) |
| 18:13.07 | greycat | www.sap.com cookie: clie=fa14f965-f1bc-4c2f-a675-d0 Allow? (Y/N/Always/neVer) |
| 18:13.17 | shark_ | greycat, is the a linux SAP? what about mySAP ? |
| 18:13.30 | Thunder000 | where can i find etch/sid repisitory links ? |
| 18:13.30 | greycat | !sap |
| 18:13.30 | dpkg | it has been said that sap is an insanse lunatic in the park |
| 18:13.37 | greycat | well, that didn't help much. |
| 18:13.42 | greycat | Thunder000: man sources.list |
| 18:13.59 | wols | yes it runs on linux, but no, no one will run it on debian |
| 18:14.05 | wols | debian is not certified for sap |
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| 18:15.21 | shark_ | i want sap on my box |
| 18:15.31 | jelly | wtf sap? |
| 18:15.36 | mfrisch | what's sap? |
| 18:15.38 | shark_ | i dont care it's proprietary i wont use in production |
| 18:15.45 | greycat | it was big before the year 2000 thing. |
| 18:15.52 | wols | SAP/R3. Enterprise Ressouce Planning system |
| 18:15.52 | groogs | isn't SAP some kind of crm thing that costs thousands and thousands of dollars? |
| 18:15.57 | greycat | !crm |
| 18:16.00 | shark_ | greycat, do you know better than SAP? |
| 18:16.02 | jelly | shark_: you don't mean the CRM/ERP thing? |
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| 18:16.07 | greycat | !erp |
| 18:16.07 | dpkg | i heard erp is enterprise resource planning... mrproject is an example of an erp program in debian. mrproject has been renamed to planner. yes, it's in debian. |
| 18:16.08 | groogs | oh and ERP i guess... |
| 18:16.21 | shark_ | oki :) |
| 18:16.23 | groogs | i've been looking at sugarcrm |
| 18:16.33 | shark_ | thanks mr greycat |
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| 18:17.03 | jelly | Oracle's not certified for D. either, but we run it on Debian anyway. |
| 18:17.18 | lakcaj | cahoot, S5 is working out pretty well... thanks again :) |
| 18:17.21 | groogs | these sites make my head hurt |
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| 18:17.46 | cahoot | lakcaj: np |
| 18:17.49 | greycat | Hands on keyboard SAP NetWeaver -- With SAP's composition platform, you can deploy Enterprise Services Architecture to increase your flexibility with innovative business solutions, leverage existing investments to deliver competitive advantage quickly, buzz buzz buzz buzz |
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| 18:18.07 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... - all IRC plays up - all other stuff seems fine |
| 18:18.12 | groogs | greycat: exactly |
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| 18:18.23 | jelly | Yay to leveraging existing investments to deliver competitive advantage |
| 18:18.33 | greycat | EmleyMoor: is it the actual name resolution that's b0rked, or is it the connection to the IP address on port 6667, or ...? |
| 18:18.40 | wols | jelly: stop infecting the channel please |
| 18:18.53 | wols | it's an epidemic which is very virulent |
| 18:19.03 | groogs | when your sentence is made mainly of words longer than 10 letters, you've used too many buzz words |
| 18:19.11 | greycat | !enterprise |
| 18:19.12 | dpkg | hmm... enterprise is a marketing buzzword which means "big, expensive, complex, and so full of bugs that you require a support contract to keep it running" |
| 18:19.38 | EmleyMoor | It's probably ... knowing my luck. It seems to be that IRC clients are just resolving wrong |
| 18:19.56 | jelly | wols: sorry, I'll go back to trolling about bad security for kernel-* packages. ;-) |
| 18:20.08 | groogs | ah excellent, my video surveillence system is running again |
| 18:20.36 | groogs | apparently the cryptic error of just not working meant it didnt have enough RAM |
| 18:20.40 | wols | jelly: good boy |
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| 18:24.55 | xtz | how do i set up an 1400x1050 resolution with Xfree86 ? |
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| 18:25.41 | shark_ | planner is good looking |
| 18:25.42 | shark_ | :) |
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| 18:26.39 | cinix | Has anyone else had the problem where you can call out fine, and you can always hear the other end fine, but sometimes the other end can't hear you? And it changes from one phone call to the next, everything will work great, i'll hang up and dial again and they can't hear me. |
| 18:26.53 | cinix | woh |
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| 18:27.00 | cinix | thought I was in #asterisk.. :-/ sorry guys |
| 18:27.14 | toolbox | np |
| 18:27.21 | cahoot | cinix: we didn't hear you anyway |
| 18:27.28 | cinix | hah ! okay |
| 18:27.39 | cinix | I hate that so much |
| 18:27.43 | cinix | at least you didn't hang up on me |
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| 18:29.22 | phretor | could I disable the system "beep" |
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| 18:29.40 | cahoot | phretor: man setterm|xset |
| 18:29.40 | greycat | !beep |
| 18:29.41 | dpkg | well, beep is /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
| 18:29.47 | greycat | !bell |
| 18:29.47 | dpkg | well, bell is "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. |
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| 18:30.09 | delaPipol | sorry |
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| 18:31.56 | phretor | cahoot: yes but, where do I set those options to be system-wide available |
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| 18:32.21 | moi | hey, does someone know the syntax i've to add to grub's bootline when i want to set an i/o for a network device? |
| 18:32.35 | greycat | ISA? |
| 18:32.40 | moi | pci |
| 18:32.52 | greycat | then why would you need to pass a parameter to the driver? |
| 18:32.59 | Gathond | moi: should never be needed for PCI cards |
| 18:33.02 | greycat | and why would it be done on the kernel's boot parameters instead of in /etc/modules? |
| 18:33.31 | moi | i've read through some mailinglists. seems as this networkcard is reeeealy old and needs it |
| 18:33.37 | Gathond | greycat: build in driver probably |
| 18:33.42 | moi | don't question me why hehe |
| 18:33.45 | greycat | !debian kernel image |
| 18:33.45 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
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| 18:33.51 | moi | i compiled it static into the kernel |
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| 18:34.07 | greycat | then you should know what the fuck you are about. |
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| 18:34.17 | moi | ?! |
| 18:34.23 | jefe486 | Can someone explain to me how to go about creating a mailing list? I am running a LUG off of a personal debian server. |
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| 18:34.26 | abrotman | i'm about to smack you! |
| 18:34.50 | greycat | jefe486: choose an MTA, configure it, choose a list manager, configure it |
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| 18:35.21 | abrotman | jefe486: mailman is a decent mailing list manager |
| 18:35.22 | c_olin | what package must I get to watch Real Player 3.0 .ram files? |
| 18:35.25 | moi | greycat: i'm sorry. i'm not sure what i did wrong. give me a hint maybe? |
| 18:35.25 | jefe486 | greycat: Thanks for the suggestion.. maybe a little more depth? |
| 18:35.27 | c_olin | on totem |
| 18:35.31 | jefe486 | thanks abrotman |
| 18:35.33 | SquireCD | I'm using mirrors.pair.com for my apt source. It's been missing most of the dist-upgrade files lately. Is pair.com messed up or is this a wide spread problem? |
| 18:35.36 | abrotman | c_olin: you must get the real player from real.com |
| 18:35.38 | greycat | moi: built a custom kernel and then asked us to support you. |
| 18:35.38 | abrotman | !helix player |
| 18:35.38 | dpkg | i heard helix player is the Helix Community's GTK2-based open source media player, in Sid and Sarge. apt-get install helix-player or https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/unix/ |
| 18:35.52 | abrotman | c_olin: the helix player won't play them |
| 18:35.58 | abrotman | helix: sorry |
| 18:35.58 | c_olin | ohhh |
| 18:36.02 | mo1991 | Can anyone help me with sendmail in Sarge - the package does not seem to work out of the box - someone in #sendmail said the sarge package doesn't work right - does anyone here have it working? |
| 18:36.06 | moi | greycat: it's not allowed to ask questions with self build kernels? |
| 18:36.10 | greycat | !custom kernel |
| 18:36.10 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
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| 18:36.34 | abrotman | i once compiled a kernel .. and then all the kittens in my neighborhood died .. dunno why |
| 18:36.49 | greycat | (thereby proving the superiority of openbsd's documentation... not that that surprises anyone who's used both) |
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| 18:37.01 | SquireCD | I'm using mirrors.pair.com for my apt source. It's been missing most of the dist-upgrade files lately. Is pair.com messed up or is this a wide spread problem? |
| 18:37.04 | zuralin | i always compile my own.. just for the hell of it |
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| 18:37.10 | abrotman | SquireCD: maybe .. try another |
| 18:37.17 | greycat | abrotman: you forgot to configure it with CONFIG_KILL_ALL_KITTENS=n !! |
| 18:37.19 | fwtest | if i set ip_forward to 1, is it a kind of network bridging? |
| 18:37.25 | SquireCD | abrotman: ok. where can I get a list of mirrors? |
| 18:37.26 | abrotman | greycat: oh .. bummer .. |
| 18:37.29 | abrotman | SquireCD: apt-setup |
| 18:37.39 | SquireCD | k, thnx |
| 18:37.41 | moi | *confused* |
| 18:37.50 | SquireCD | abrotman: i don't have apt-setup |
| 18:38.09 | paolob | Hi guys! Anyone can tell me what AT command should I give to a CNET external serial modem in order to have the connection speed reported? thank you! |
| 18:38.16 | greycat | moi: 1) PCI cards don't need I/O parameters. 2) your NIC should be a module. 3) module parameters are passed in /etc/modules or other files under /etc. |
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| 18:38.24 | Bob332 | i just downloaded and installed x-window-system-core....whats next, all i want is a basic gnome |
| 18:38.37 | abrotman | SquireCD: as root .. and if you don't ... you're not running Debian and thus in the wrong channel |
| 18:38.48 | SquireCD | abrotman: i am running debian and i am root |
| 18:38.53 | SquireCD | i have apt-config but that's it |
| 18:39.00 | greycat | Bob332: startx, and make sure the X server works. then install gnome. |
| 18:39.23 | abrotman | SquireCD: apt-get install apt-setup .. nfc .. if you don't have apt-setup something is wrong |
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| 18:39.30 | silvercat | where can I get help on freeradius? |
| 18:39.38 | SquireCD | abrotman: i tried that. apt-setup isn't in the database |
| 18:39.39 | abrotman | SquireCD: which version of debian is it? |
| 18:39.42 | SquireCD | unstable |
| 18:39.45 | mo1991 | Bob332 - i use x-window-system gnome-core gnome-system tools as a base |
| 18:39.45 | moi | greycat: mh okay. thanks for the information |
| 18:39.47 | greycat | !find bin/apt-setup sarge |
| 18:39.49 | greycat | !smite SquireCD |
| 18:39.53 | werw | Hi! Does mv command mantain permissions? |
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| 18:39.58 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/apt-setup' (1): (/usr/sbin/apt-setup) in base/base-config. |
| 18:40.02 | greycat | werw: if you do it within one file system, yes. |
| 18:40.12 | werw | ok thanks |
| 18:40.13 | SquireCD | greycat: Thank you for that. Why did I just get smitted? |
| 18:40.16 | abrotman | SquireCD: ok .. if you don't have the base-config package installed .. something is seriously wrong |
| 18:40.25 | abrotman | SquireCD: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 18:40.28 | mo1991 | does anyone in this channel have sendmail working in sarge?? Package appears to be broken??? |
| 18:40.31 | SquireCD | abrotman: i have basename |
| 18:40.34 | greycat | SquireCD: for running unstable, but not being able to run basic commands |
| 18:40.55 | SquireCD | greycat: well, i really appreicate that. thank you |
| 18:40.58 | abrotman | SquireCD: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 18:41.00 | SquireCD | abrotman: |
| 18:41.05 | SquireCD | artstar:/mnt/maxtor/incomplete# dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 18:41.05 | SquireCD | ii libc6 2.3.5-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
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| 18:41.35 | abrotman | SquireCD: either you're not root .. or your system is screwed |
| 18:41.44 | abrotman | SquireCD: please double check that you're root .. |
| 18:41.45 | greycat | or he "installed unstable". |
| 18:41.48 | SquireCD | artstar:/mnt/maxtor/incomplete# whoami |
| 18:41.48 | SquireCD | root |
| 18:41.48 | SquireCD | artstar:/mnt/maxtor/incomplete# dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 18:41.48 | SquireCD | ii libc6 2.3.5-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 18:41.48 | SquireCD | artstar:/mnt/maxtor/incomplete# |
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| 18:41.53 | greycat | and god only KNOWS how he installed. |
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| 18:42.00 | abrotman | SquireCD: don't DO THAT |
| 18:42.05 | abrotman | wrong emphasis :) |
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| 18:42.14 | abrotman | SquireCD: and DON"T MSG ME |
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| 18:42.23 | abrotman | SquireCD: /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
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| 18:42.32 | abrotman | (or he screwed his path) |
| 18:42.36 | SquireCD | abrotman: What else do you awnt me to do? I AM FREAKING ROOT! You won't believe me so I was trying to show you |
| 18:42.36 | greycat | as the bot already pointed out, it's in the base-config package. |
| 18:42.42 | abrotman | SquireCD: /usr/sbin/apt-setup |
| 18:42.49 | abrotman | SquireCD: apt-get install base-config |
| 18:42.54 | abrotman | reverse that order :) |
| 18:42.59 | SquireCD | =P |
| 18:43.03 | greycat | !breastfeed SquireCD |
| 18:43.11 | abrotman | is there a middle? |
| 18:43.15 | SquireCD | !buttfuck greycat |
| 18:43.20 | Oryn | anyone know whats with the debian version of sudo??? has it been fscked with to never ever allow NOPASSWD to work? |
| 18:43.20 | SquireCD | is that a command? |
| 18:43.22 | SquireCD | i really hope it is |
| 18:43.25 | greycat | *plonk* |
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| 18:43.37 | SquireCD | abrotman: k, base-config is installing |
| 18:43.42 | abrotman | SquireCD: apt-get install base-config;/usr/sbin/apt-setup |
| 18:43.43 | greycat | Oryn: /msg dpkg sudo |
| 18:43.50 | abrotman | SquireCD: and stop abusing people :) |
| 18:43.50 | SquireCD | abrotman: it's on it's way |
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| 18:43.58 | SquireCD | abrotman: me??? abuse??? never! ;) |
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| 18:44.08 | SquireCD | abrotman: okay, yes. now i have baseconfig |
| 18:44.15 | SquireCD | abrotman: i think i know why i didn't have it |
| 18:44.16 | abrotman | SquireCD: and now you should have apt-setup |
| 18:44.23 | abrotman | SquireCD: because you didn't install correctly? :) |
| 18:44.27 | somePriest | Is there a md5 program in stable? I don't see it, not under that name anyway, perhaps its not named "md5" or its not on my mirrors? |
| 18:44.33 | SquireCD | abrotman: i use deborphan a lot to keep as much free space on my drive as possible. i probably killed it a long time ago |
| 18:44.35 | greycat | it's called md5sum in linux |
| 18:44.36 | abrotman | md5sum |
| 18:44.42 | greycat | md5 in openbsd ;-) |
| 18:44.49 | abrotman | SquireCD: there's no f'in way deborphan removed base-config |
| 18:45.01 | SquireCD | abrotman: then i don't know what happened to it |
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| 18:45.09 | SquireCD | i've had this install for 4 years though |
| 18:45.15 | SquireCD | anything could've happened in 4 years, i guess |
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| 18:45.19 | somePriest | greycat, Hrm, must not be on my mirror, apt-cache search md5sum doesn't seem to find it. |
| 18:45.26 | abrotman | dpkg: why don't you know about rdepends |
| 18:45.26 | greycat | somePriest: it's not a separate pacakge |
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| 18:45.37 | greycat | it's part of an essential package, so it should be present already |
| 18:46.12 | greycat | !why does me suck so bad that i don't even know about rdepends? |
| 18:46.13 | dpkg | Because RMS's pet gnu hates greycat. |
| 18:46.15 | somePriest | greycat, Oh, I see. Does apt call it when installing binaries and downloading source? Or would I need to run debsums or equivalent? |
| 18:46.19 | greycat | heh |
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| 18:46.33 | greycat | I didn't think it'd do the 'me' substitution on that one... |
| 18:46.35 | SquireCD | abrotman: what other goodies does base-config come with? |
| 18:46.46 | abrotman | SquireCD: dpkg -L base-config |
| 18:46.47 | SquireCD | abrotman: aka: i mean, what can I do with it? what does it do for me? |
| 18:46.57 | greycat | somePriest: dpkg uses it |
| 18:47.03 | Oryn | greycat: thats exactly what I'm doing, but it just asks for a password ALL the time |
| 18:47.07 | somePriest | greycat, fantastic, thank you. |
| 18:47.07 | SquireCD | jesus, it does lots |
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| 18:47.11 | abrotman | SquireCD: believe it or not .. it's the base-config package .. it does base configuration :) |
| 18:47.12 | greycat | arc1:~$ dpkg -S md5sum |
| 18:47.13 | greycat | dpkg: /usr/bin/md5sum |
| 18:47.21 | greycat | (among other lines) |
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| 18:47.43 | jc__ | Good Afternoon |
| 18:47.56 | SquireCD | abrotman: well, i think i remember uninstalling it because the description said it was a set of things that are used when you initially install the distro. Since I had long since installed... I figured I didn't need a baseconfig packages |
| 18:48.01 | SquireCD | abrotman: does that make sense? |
| 18:48.04 | julien | hi ! |
| 18:48.11 | somePriest | greycat, Help appreciated, thank you. |
| 18:48.29 | abrotman | SquireCD: no .. but it wouldn't be the first time today :) |
| 18:48.30 | madclicker | is there an sshd logger on SARGE? |
| 18:48.39 | SquireCD | haha |
| 18:48.44 | greycat | just sshd's normal logging |
| 18:48.49 | abrotman | madclicker: there are other IP logers |
| 18:48.56 | julien | omg, KDE still not fixed in sid :( |
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| 18:49.07 | SquireCD | unstable's packages are newer than testings, right? |
| 18:49.09 | madclicker | greycat: not in syslog |
| 18:49.13 | jc__ | Is possible stop clone address ethernet mac ? |
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| 18:49.16 | greycat | madclicker: auth.log, most likely |
| 18:49.27 | greycat | unless you configured it differetly |
| 18:49.48 | SquireCD | i want bleeding edge new software -- i've been using unstable, that's what I want right? or do I want testing/ |
| 18:49.51 | madclicker | greycat: a few weeks ago you told me about an intrussion protection software, i installed it but forgot the name of it |
| 18:50.04 | somePriest | SquireCD, Unstable. Good luck, and may the Force be with you. |
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| 18:50.22 | SquireCD | somePriest: Okay, good. The force has always been with me :) I've used unstable for 4 years |
| 18:50.36 | abrotman | greycat: you should *unplonk* :) |
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| 18:50.59 | phretor | I added a "bell-style none" to /etc/inputrc but that beep remains. Any suggestion? |
| 18:51.07 | abrotman | !bell |
| 18:51.07 | dpkg | [bell] "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. |
| 18:51.31 | Oryn | anyone know how to get sudo to work with apache |
| 18:51.54 | SquireCD | abrotman: I've been wondering about this. I know that apt is gpg signed now. What's the good thing about that? Just basic security or does it have a real use for the end users? |
| 18:51.54 | abrotman | to do what? |
| 18:51.58 | mo1991 | can anyone tell me a good alternative for sendmail that can be used to send - out mail with evolution? |
| 18:52.00 | somePriest | I'm used to a win32 envieonment where you can install the latest packages on the OS released X amount of time ago. In Debian I'm "stuck" with X version of an app for the next 6-12 months. Is this simply because all [unstable] app developers feel they must include the bleeding edge librairies? |
| 18:52.03 | madclicker | greycat: it was simular to "port sentry", than again it could have been stew |
| 18:52.05 | greycat | mo1991: exim, postfix |
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| 18:52.12 | abrotman | SquireCD: package authentication ? nfc .. i don't run sid |
| 18:52.23 | Oryn | abrotman: anything I want it just asks for a password |
| 18:52.25 | SquireCD | abrotman: what do you run? |
| 18:52.30 | SquireCD | abrotman: i'm on unstable |
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| 18:52.38 | abrotman | SquireCD: i run slink |
| 18:52.47 | SquireCD | abrotman: btw, yeah it was my pair.com mirror. apt is fine now |
| 18:52.48 | Oryn | oops sorry |
| 18:52.49 | mo1991 | greycat - btw - the guy in #sendmail said that the debian package is really messed up - have you heard this to be the case? |
| 18:52.52 | SquireCD | abrotman: what is slink? |
| 18:52.58 | madclicker | abrotman: "port intrusion" software for sarge? can you help abrother? |
| 18:53.02 | abrotman | SquireCD: i was joking .. |
| 18:53.04 | HeavenWarrior | how to check in cmd my cpu usage |
| 18:53.05 | greycat | very few people use sendmail in Debian, I suspect. |
| 18:53.06 | greycat | !popcon |
| 18:53.06 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 18:53.10 | SquireCD | madclicker: port sentry is what i use. it's great |
| 18:53.11 | EmleyMoor | SquireCD: slink is Debian 2.1 |
| 18:53.13 | phretor | abrotman: yes but I'd like to set it at boot and system-wide |
| 18:53.15 | greycat | !slink |
| 18:53.15 | dpkg | Slink (Debian 2.1) was released March 1999. It is no longer supported. Ask me about slink->potato. |
| 18:53.20 | abrotman | madclicker: port intrusion .. apt-cache search port intrusion |
| 18:53.31 | SquireCD | hahahah ok, sorry. my debian version history is rusty :) |
| 18:53.41 | lofdev | i installed debian on a machine to use as a router via pppoe to dsl provider. I am having trouble accessing (ping.traceroute) certain sites. ANyone with any experience here? |
| 18:53.44 | EmleyMoor | buzz, rex, bo, hamm, slink, potato, woody, sarge, etch... |
| 18:53.59 | SquireCD | Here's a good question guys |
| 18:54.06 | SquireCD | Has bittorrent been messed up for you too? |
| 18:54.07 | abrotman | phretor: i'm not sure you can |
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| 18:55.04 | mo1991 | greycat - can exim be used with evolution in the same way as sendmail? |
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| 18:55.21 | greycat | mo1991: of course |
| 18:55.27 | greycat | !mail tutorial |
| 18:55.27 | dpkg | methinks mail tutorial is at http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
| 18:55.45 | SquireCD | i really need to learn dpkg, it does some great info gathering |
| 18:56.00 | mo1991 | !mail tutorial |
| 18:56.00 | dpkg | mail tutorial is probably at http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
| 18:56.02 | greycat | http://popcon.debian.org/main/mail/by_inst for MTA popularity |
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| 18:56.37 | aedwards1 | Folks...do I need racoon for ipsec with 2.6.12.5 kernel? |
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| 18:56.47 | lofdev | anyone ever run debian as a router |
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| 18:56.51 | asuffield | aedwards1: strictly? no. realistically? yes |
| 18:56.53 | Quag7 | Does anyone know if mp3 files can be edited natively without decoding them first, necessitating a re-encode (and lossiness) to mp3? |
| 18:56.59 | abrotman | aedwards1: i recommend possum |
| 18:57.07 | somePriest | If one wanted a newer program within stable, would anyone suggest against making DEBs from source normally found in unstable? Or is apt pinning a real solution, I'm told it can run into errors down the road. |
| 18:57.12 | SquireCD | Quag7: You might be in the wrong channel for that |
| 18:57.22 | Quag7 | Possibly.. |
| 18:57.30 | SquireCD | Quag7: Try #linuxhelp |
| 18:57.39 | SquireCD | Quag7: more well-rounded crowd in there |
| 18:57.42 | SquireCD | no offense, guys |
| 18:57.46 | SquireCD | ;) |
| 18:57.47 | aedwards1 | abrotman why do you favor passum? |
| 18:58.01 | abrotman | possum |
| 18:58.03 | Gathond | somePriest: compiling a deb from the source is less likely to break things than using pinning to install some packages from unstable |
| 18:58.05 | abrotman | tastes better |
| 18:58.18 | aedwards1 | ha ja |
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| 18:58.27 | aedwards1 | funny |
| 18:58.33 | mo1991 | greycat - sendmail sure seems pretty far down the list - must be due to its not so easy config |
| 18:58.33 | abrotman | not really |
| 18:58.36 | somePriest | Gathond, Would this be recommended then? Or is it still better to use only DEBs (or source from) the Stable/ archive? |
| 18:58.41 | phretor | `find /etc -type f | xargs grep toshiba_acpi` returns no results but I still getting the same error (no such device) at boot and it means that someone is trying to load that module |
| 18:58.51 | greycat | mo1991: one may speculate about reasons... ;-) |
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| 18:59.32 | phretor | any suggestion? |
| 18:59.48 | Gathond | somePriest: using them only from the archive is probably the best, but If you for some reason really need something the new version offers then rolling you own deb would be better then the alternatives (grapping one from sid or just installing directly from source) |
| 19:00.21 | Gathond | somePriest: however the .deb you create yourselv is unlikely to be upgraded if there are security issues, so you have to track that yourself |
| 19:00.21 | somePriest | Gathond, Can making a DEB from source run into any other complications? |
| 19:00.45 | somePriest | Gathond, Hmm, good point. |
| 19:00.54 | Gathond | somePriest: dependency issues perhaps, if the stable versions of its dependencies are not new enough |
| 19:02.11 | silvercat | I want to implement a basic authentication system for a LAN using radius and probably chap, but I'm not familiar with any of these.. is there a basic read somewhere? |
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| 19:02.40 | abrotman | !radius |
| 19:02.40 | dpkg | somebody said radius was http://www.livingston.com/tech/technotes/500/index.html#RADIUS. Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service |
| 19:02.42 | abrotman | yay |
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| 19:03.05 | stew | !beer stew |
| 19:03.13 | silvercat | not found |
| 19:03.23 | xtz | how do i set up an 1400x1050 resolution with Xfree86 on debian sarge ? |
| 19:03.27 | abrotman | !beer stew |
| 19:03.32 | abrotman | we'll get him drunk! |
| 19:03.34 | ArtistAgent | ok this is weird i seem to have lost my manual pages for most of the core progs on my system like xterm, du, tar, etc.. is "manpages" the apt *.deb package i should reinstall? |
| 19:03.36 | stew | yay. happy friday! |
| 19:03.39 | SquireCD | !beer SquireCD |
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| 19:03.52 | abrotman | stew: sly fox! |
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| 19:04.02 | greycat | ArtistAgent: section 1 pages are in the individual packages. |
| 19:04.14 | greycat | ArtistAgent: e.g. tar(1) is in tar |
| 19:04.30 | streuner | dpkg, literal cmd: beer (.*?) |
| 19:04.30 | dpkg | CMD: beer (.*?) is ($1): <action> (blesses $1 with a Yuengling Lager|cracks open a can of Boddingtons for $1|pours a thick, black pint of Guinness for $1, to be sure|deftly decants a fine La Maudite for $1) |
| 19:04.31 | ArtistAgent | i see i was afraid of that.. :( |
| 19:04.46 | stew | i have never understaood why "to be sure" is in there |
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| 19:05.00 | flipmcf | does dpkg-buildpackage also install? Seems so. Can someone confirm that? |
| 19:05.08 | xtz | does anyone has an 15" TFT with 1400x1050 resolution support ? |
| 19:05.14 | ArtistAgent | :) thanks though |
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| 19:05.27 | greycat | flipmcf: uh, no, it shouldn't install, especially since you're running it as non-root. |
| 19:05.43 | Grifter | does anyone know of a command to change the encoding of a filename (not the contents of the file) |
| 19:05.45 | greycat | flipmcf: it'll do a *fake* install into a temp directory in order to build the .deb |
| 19:05.47 | stew | xtz: you best bet is to go to tuxmobile.org and find someone with your laptop and copy their xf86config-4 |
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| 19:05.55 | somePriest | I've just stopped using KDE, where I had use KPDF to view PDFs. Can anyone recommend another PDF viewer? |
| 19:05.59 | flipmcf | greycat, and if I AM running as root? |
| 19:06.01 | abrotman | gpdf xpdf |
| 19:06.03 | Grifter | somePriest, xpdf |
| 19:06.04 | abrotman | !love FieldySnuts |
| 19:06.04 | bassM | why do people use bittornade instead of bittorrent? |
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| 19:06.11 | bassM | *bittornado |
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| 19:06.26 | greycat | bassM: because bittornado can't put an upload throttle on the WHOLE program, only on each separate stream |
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| 19:06.29 | abrotman | streuner: wb! |
| 19:06.30 | greycat | errr... that's backwards. |
| 19:06.34 | greycat | bassM: because bittorrent can't put an upload throttle on the WHOLE program, only on each separate stream |
| 19:06.39 | streuner | abrotman: thanks :-) |
| 19:06.42 | flipmcf | greycat, your pretty ingenious if you can tell I'm not root on a box in my local lan. |
| 19:06.44 | nerdy2 | evince is also quite an up and coming PDF viewer |
| 19:06.54 | greycat | bittornado, on the other hand, loses track of how many bytes have been uploaded for each file each time you lose the tracker |
| 19:06.55 | abrotman | streuner: we really missed you .. i thought you went to hang out with g4lt |
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| 19:07.16 | streuner | dpkg, seen g4lt |
| 19:07.17 | dpkg | g4lt <galt@g4lt.base.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 323d 18h 30m 34s ago, saying: 'toresbe actually no, policy states taht no package needs to depend on anything on base'. |
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| 19:07.35 | streuner | abrotman: that would be almost 1 year :-) |
| 19:07.40 | abrotman | streuner: but he's been on freenode .. just not #d |
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| 19:07.47 | streuner | oh |
| 19:07.49 | toresbe | yeah, he's in different channels |
| 19:07.50 | abrotman | streuner: /msg nickserv info |
| 19:07.55 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@unaffiliated/fieldysnuts] by greycat |
| 19:07.57 | abrotman | streuner: err .. you konw what i mean |
| 19:07.58 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 19:07.59 | toresbe | he said he just didn't have the time |
| 19:08.04 | greycat | it's been, what, 2 weeks? |
| 19:08.05 | toresbe | why the heck was fieldy banned? |
| 19:08.06 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: HOORAY! |
| 19:08.13 | FieldySnuts | greycat: 15 days. thank you :) |
| 19:08.16 | abrotman | greycat: no idea |
| 19:08.18 | mrwill | is making a raw copy of a filesystem with 'dump' sufficient to back up a mysql database on that filesystem? |
| 19:08.21 | streuner | !wb FieldySnuts |
| 19:08.22 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! FieldySnuts has returned! |
| 19:08.24 | greycat | toresbe: dondelelcaro got pissed at him/her for some reason |
| 19:08.27 | FieldySnuts | ;D |
| 19:08.27 | abrotman | !beer FieldySnuts |
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| 19:08.33 | bassM | greycat: ok, so that means I probably won't need it then... ? |
| 19:08.39 | FieldySnuts | back to work. take care. |
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| 19:08.52 | Oryn | anyone know why I can get a user to do All in sudoers but if I only permission to run a script it prompts for a password? |
| 19:08.52 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: no .. come and play .. it's POETS day! |
| 19:08.55 | streuner | !greycat++ |
| 19:09.06 | streuner | dpkg, karma greycat |
| 19:09.06 | dpkg | greycat has karma of 48 |
| 19:09.15 | toresbe | This channel should become official, get a code of conduct, and a hierarchy of ops. |
| 19:09.15 | Eno_ | after running dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and choosing the smarthost option on my sarge system, i got this error: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=8152 |
| 19:09.24 | greycat | !smite toresbe |
| 19:09.29 | mrwill | there is karma in this channel now? unbelievable. |
| 19:09.33 | abrotman | toresbe: we have one .. |
| 19:09.45 | abrotman | mrwill: it goes away and comes back |
| 19:09.46 | toresbe | abrotman: "get a clue or get out of here"? :P |
| 19:09.49 | Eno_ | i haven't edited that config by hand at all |
| 19:09.53 | abrotman | toresbe: don't piss off the cat? :) |
| 19:09.54 | toresbe | But I believe my ideas might be controversial ;) |
| 19:10.00 | toresbe | abrotman: :) |
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| 19:10.13 | J_P | hi all |
| 19:10.13 | toresbe | "Rule #1: Don't let the door hit you on the way out" |
| 19:10.23 | greycat | !guidelines |
| 19:10.24 | dpkg | 1) read the /topic, the FAQ, and google before asking us. (2) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 3) Don't repeat; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question.4) Read docs: (man/info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill. Practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots. See <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood or <paster>, not here. 8) No trolls or spam., if |
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| 19:10.35 | mrwill | abrotman: so it keeps resetting every now and then? but how is the value determined? |
| 19:10.37 | J_P | people, i have one HD with DOS, how i do in my debian for remove MBR ? |
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| 19:10.45 | abrotman | !karma abrotman |
| 19:10.46 | dpkg | abrotman has karma of 7 |
| 19:10.54 | abrotman | mrwill: you give or take karma from others |
| 19:11.00 | greycat | mrwill: the commands that allow karma modification were disabled for a while, then re-enabled on a new build of the bot |
| 19:11.06 | Caelum | Eno_: did you look on that line in the config file? |
| 19:11.16 | mrwill | greycat: neat, I'll have to ask the bot about it. |
| 19:11.18 | greycat | mrwill: for a while, karma was "frozen" |
| 19:11.34 | greycat | but to the best of my knowledge, the values have never been reset back to 0 |
| 19:11.41 | mrwill | ok |
| 19:11.53 | abrotman | J_P: say again? |
| 19:12.04 | Caelum | !karma debian |
| 19:12.04 | dpkg | debian has karma of 2 |
| 19:12.08 | greycat | dpkg, guidelines =~ s/., if/./ |
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| 19:12.08 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 19:12.16 | asuffield | the karma database has been lost once or twice over the years |
| 19:12.26 | streuner | Caelum: /msg dpkg seen debian |
| 19:12.28 | abrotman | asuffield: is that how you got negative karma? :) |
| 19:12.34 | Grifloen | I'm having trouble with my filesystem. I have an ext3 filesystem that can mount as +rw but once I access one file, I no longer have write access to the filesystem, even as root. |
| 19:12.35 | greycat | dpkg, guidelines =~ s/Read docs:/Reading docs/ |
| 19:12.35 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
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| 19:12.44 | abrotman | and fix the msg the bots, not the people! |
| 19:12.46 | Caelum | heh |
| 19:12.52 | asuffield | abrotman: I actually don't think that's possible, last I looked it couldn't go below zero |
| 19:13.00 | J_P | abrotman: i have hdd with dos, and i like remove mbr on it, how i do ? |
| 19:13.05 | abrotman | !asuffield-- |
| 19:13.11 | abrotman | !karma asuffield |
| 19:13.12 | dpkg | asuffield has karma of 4 |
| 19:13.15 | abrotman | oh well |
| 19:13.18 | abrotman | !asuffield++ |
| 19:13.19 | Bob332 | how do I get the gdm? i run startx and it brings me into GNOME |
| 19:13.27 | abrotman | J_P: why would you want to do that? |
| 19:13.33 | greycat | Bob332: apt-get install gnome |
| 19:13.37 | asuffield | it's been a long time since I dug into the blootbot code though |
| 19:13.38 | abrotman | Bob332: apt-get install gdm |
| 19:13.41 | greycat | Bob332: apt-get install gdm |
| 19:13.44 | greycat | one of those. |
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| 19:14.18 | J_P | abrotman: for i try do one "if dd=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd" where hdc is one linux booting ok and hdd is that hd with dos |
| 19:14.28 | Grifloen | Can anyone help me with my filesystem problem? |
| 19:14.29 | Eno_ | Caelum: yes. oh... i copied that file myself from the template when i was going to edit it by hand, but then used dpkg-reconfigure. i rm'd it and its fine now |
| 19:14.34 | J_P | abrotman: but hdd i put in other machine and not boot |
| 19:14.36 | abrotman | J_P: i think you need to slow down and phrase your comments a little better :) |
| 19:14.48 | abrotman | J_P: oh .. you want to duplicate your drive |
| 19:14.52 | J_P | eys |
| 19:14.53 | J_P | yes |
| 19:14.54 | mo1991 | greycat - I install mailx and evolution now says that the email is being sent properly - but I am sending it to email @xsmail.com (internet mail) and it is not receiving it - do I need to configure this to send to the outside (rather than local mail) |
| 19:14.55 | mo1991 | ? |
| 19:15.06 | abrotman | J_P: why doesn't it work? |
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| 19:15.15 | greycat | mo1991: read the logs. mailx is an MUA, not an MTA. exim is probably your MTA unless you replaced it. |
| 19:15.16 | Bob332 | abrotman, greycat, so where is the startup file in /etc/X11 that tells startx to run gnome? |
| 19:15.18 | abrotman | J_P: rather .. what happens wthen you put the drive in |
| 19:15.21 | J_P | abrotman: i dont know.. i think becouse have dos.. |
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| 19:15.32 | greycat | Bob332: if you don't have a .xsession file, /etc/X11/xinit/something |
| 19:15.37 | abrotman | Bob332: are you saying to odn't want gnome? |
| 19:15.38 | mo1991 | greycat - yes mailx install exim as well. |
| 19:15.40 | greycat | (or a .xinitrc file) |
| 19:15.43 | J_P | abrotman: show Booting Linux... error 80x98 |
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| 19:15.55 | abrotman | J_P: grub or lilo? |
| 19:15.56 | J_P | abrotman: then i like remove mbr before do dd |
| 19:15.58 | J_P | lilo |
| 19:16.05 | abrotman | J_P: are the drives the same size? |
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| 19:16.09 | J_P | yes |
| 19:16.13 | abrotman | exactly? |
| 19:16.17 | abrotman | identical drives? |
| 19:16.21 | Bob332 | abrotman, i do what gnome, just want to know whats going on there...thanks |
| 19:16.52 | abrotman | Bob332: look in /etc/alternatives .. might explain some things |
| 19:17.13 | J_P | abrotman: yes... |
| 19:17.14 | Bob332 | wow, whats all this stuff |
| 19:17.16 | asuffield | greycat: actually I think it's in Xsession.d. xinit is what's run if there's neither a .xsession nor any of the other stuff it tries (like x-session-manager or x-window-manager or whatever) |
| 19:17.21 | Bob332 | in /etc/alternatives |
| 19:17.24 | abrotman | J_P: then afaik .. that should work |
| 19:17.32 | abrotman | Bob332: alternatives :) |
| 19:17.37 | greycat | asuffield: I can't even remember the last time I had no .xinitrc or .xsession file |
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| 19:17.57 | abrotman | J_P: when you put it in the other machine .. is it also hdc or what is it |
| 19:17.57 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:18.01 | asuffield | it's pretty damned hard to get the fallback xinitrc :P |
| 19:18.03 | J_P | abrotman: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 mey be |
| 19:18.14 | J_P | abrotman: hdc |
| 19:18.24 | asuffield | you get, uhh... twm, xclock, and three xterms |
| 19:18.32 | abrotman | J_P: have you tried a grub floppy to boot the kernel images? |
| 19:18.33 | greycat | !guidelines |
| 19:18.33 | dpkg | 1) Read the /topic, the FAQ, and google before asking us. 2) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 3) Don't repeat; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 4) Reading docs (man/info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill. Practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots (not the people). See <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood or <paster>, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. |
| 19:18.41 | greycat | (after many more changes in /msg) |
| 19:18.46 | abrotman | greycat: yay! |
| 19:18.53 | J_P | abrotman: not, i go try do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 first of my dd |
| 19:19.08 | abrotman | J_P: ok .. but it won't work |
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| 19:19.35 | J_P | abrotman: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 not remove mbr ? |
| 19:19.39 | Bob332 | so whats the gnome executable called, the file actually used to start gnome? |
| 19:19.51 | abrotman | it will .. but that's not your problem if you ask me .. but go ahead and do it if you think it will help |
| 19:19.51 | greycat | Bob332: gnome-session |
| 19:19.52 | mo1991 | greycat - where would I find the logs for exim? |
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| 19:20.00 | greycat | mo1991: most likely /var/log/mail.log |
| 19:20.09 | Bob332 | greycat, ah thank you |
| 19:20.13 | mo1991 | thx |
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| 19:20.16 | rking | how can i configure exim to accept mail from "foo-234234@host.com" and send to "foo@host.com", where 234234 is any number or string i want? this doesn't do it: echo "foo-*: foo" > /etc/aliases (btw, i asked #exim, but they're quiet) |
| 19:20.22 | rking | exim4, btw |
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| 19:20.59 | greycat | wow, a question with details! |
| 19:21.01 | greycat | too bad I can't answer it |
| 19:21.15 | rking | greycat: =) |
| 19:21.20 | theine | Sorry in advance, but is there a (La-)TeX channel on Freenode? |
| 19:21.42 | rking | theine: #latex ? |
| 19:22.10 | streuner | #latex 61 LaTeX |
| 19:22.27 | greycat | their topic is a bit longer than LaTeX |
| 19:22.39 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.50 | theine | rking, thanks, me idiot tried #tex and #tetex... |
| 19:23.29 | rking | theine: you might want to do what i did, which is /list and save the output to a file for later exploration (i sorted by # of users) |
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| 19:24.00 | Grifloen | Someone please help me. My ext3 filesystem mounts fine, but as soon as I delete or even access any file, it becomes read-only, even to root. If I want to delete more than 1 file, I have to unmount, remount and delete one file each time. |
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| 19:24.20 | theine | rking, sounds like a very good idea |
| 19:24.20 | rking | Grifloen: ow |
| 19:24.29 | greycat | sounds like ummount-and-fsck time |
| 19:24.32 | greycat | s/mm/m/ |
| 19:24.45 | Grifloen | I did fsck yesterday, there were no problems |
| 19:24.55 | rking | Grifloen: what happens when you tail -f /var/log/* and do that? |
| 19:25.03 | greycat | any errors in dmesg? |
| 19:25.13 | rking | greycat: or that. =) |
| 19:25.41 | rking | don't do the /var/log/* thing - there are some binary logs there. =) |
| 19:25.56 | Grifloen | i get a bunch of gibberish in my shell window |
| 19:26.02 | greycat | /var/log/messages should be safe to tail |
| 19:26.03 | Grifloen | heh |
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| 19:26.30 | greycat | Grifloen: Ctrl-C, reset (the command, not the button) |
| 19:26.43 | Grifloen | ok |
| 19:26.45 | Eno_ | hmm.. what is the unit for the polling interval for fetchmail? minutes or seconds? |
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| 19:28.14 | Grifloen | also, Konqueror never seems to free up my filesystems when I close it |
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| 19:36.13 | streuner | IP - - [26/Aug/2005:21:26:22 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 153 "-" "-" , someone know what that means? |
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| 19:36.44 | xmixahlx | msg dpkg kde3.4 |
| 19:36.51 | turing | someone asked for / on that date with an old client |
| 19:36.53 | abrotman | streuner: it's from your apache log |
| 19:37.01 | streuner | abrotman: yes |
| 19:37.03 | greycat | and you replaced the IP address with a word |
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| 19:37.15 | streuner | greycat: with its hostname |
| 19:37.28 | greycat | its hostname is "IP"? |
| 19:37.35 | streuner | nah |
| 19:37.51 | streuner | i.e. 194.195.168.7 |
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| 19:38.10 | streuner | yes |
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| 19:38.13 | streuner | :-) |
| 19:38.19 | greycat | what was the question again? |
| 19:38.32 | streuner | well, i don't know the meaning |
| 19:38.38 | greycat | of what part? |
| 19:38.42 | streuner | why i got this at all |
| 19:38.49 | greycat | because you run a web server |
| 19:39.00 | streuner | "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 153 "-" "-" |
| 19:39.00 | greycat | and someone fetched the main page |
| 19:39.07 | greycat | and your main page is 153 bytes |
| 19:39.07 | abrotman | GET is the request type |
| 19:39.13 | abrotman | err / is the page |
| 19:39.21 | abrotman | HTTP/1.0 is the version of the protocol |
| 19:39.23 | abrotman | 200 is success |
| 19:39.25 | streuner | yes, of course, but s(he) didn't even get a file or access my webserver at all |
| 19:39.26 | abrotman | 153 is the bytes |
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| 19:39.28 | nitin | guys, what do you think is the recommended permissions level (chmod xxx) for files that a storage system creates - > admins and php should be able to read,modify,delete but others shouldnt |
| 19:39.32 | FieldySnuts | huh? |
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| 19:39.58 | FieldySnuts | isn't 200 just checking for the existance and size, not really fetching it? bear with me i'm tired |
| 19:40.06 | abrotman | 200 is success afaik |
| 19:40.23 | greycat | FieldySnuts: HEAD would be just checking for its metadata |
| 19:40.27 | abrotman | yeah .. 200 is OK |
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| 19:40.29 | greycat | GET is actually getting the data |
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| 19:40.41 | Lumination | damn fetchmail is LOADS of fun |
| 19:40.43 | Lumination | heh |
| 19:40.47 | atom-z | is KDE says it cannot open /dev/dsp... what should I do? |
| 19:41.09 | greycat | atom-z: load the (OSS compatibility if you use ALSA) sound driver |
| 19:41.09 | Eno_ | perissions |
| 19:41.12 | streuner | atom-z: disable arts? |
| 19:41.16 | defcon8 | fuck GAIM and msn |
| 19:41.18 | greycat | add yourself to the audio group |
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| 19:41.23 | Lumination | anybody know what the hell this is? 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfj7QJktEv019634 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=117): Permission denied |
| 19:41.24 | defcon8 | the one time my gf comes online msn fucks up |
| 19:41.28 | FieldySnuts | gaim is fine. it's msn who keeps changing shit server side. |
| 19:41.36 | FieldySnuts | so please don't blame gaim |
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| 19:41.46 | Lumination | it's like fetchmail is trying to write a temp file to the server or something |
| 19:41.48 | _wrykyn | aol is also doing the same thing to me..stopped working 2 days ago |
| 19:41.55 | FieldySnuts | no they aren't. |
| 19:41.59 | greycat | Lumination: perhaps your SMTP daemon is misconfigured? |
| 19:42.02 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.12 | Lumination | I don't have an smtpd |
| 19:42.18 | greycat | Lumination: if you telnet to localhost 25 and send a message over SMTP, does it work? |
| 19:42.25 | greycat | Lumination: if you don't have one, how did you configure fetchmail? |
| 19:42.34 | greycat | SMTP is the default. |
| 19:43.11 | defcon8 | FieldySnuts, im still blaming gaim |
| 19:43.32 | atom-z | greycat, how do i do that? |
| 19:43.47 | atom-z | greycat, i'm using an nForce motherboard btw |
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| 19:44.01 | Lumination | gerycat: I am using external servers for everything |
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| 19:44.09 | Lumination | sendmail and fetchmail |
| 19:44.16 | phretor_ | guys, got to go. Goodbye and thanks all for your support. See you next time. |
| 19:44.17 | defcon8 | Lumination, write gre and then press tab |
| 19:44.20 | greycat | atom-z: which kernel? |
| 19:44.22 | Lumination | configured with some perl script that seemed to be pretty comprehensive |
| 19:44.27 | streuner | defcon8: blame those people who changed their policy whenever they need it... |
| 19:44.29 | PeterB | !tell Lumination about nicktab |
| 19:44.50 | defcon8 | streuner, yeah well its not fucking fair that i cant talk to my gf |
| 19:44.50 | Lumination | PeterB, got it |
| 19:44.51 | FieldySnuts | defcon8: tell #gaim that, i'm sure they'll Love You Long Time(TM) |
| 19:45.01 | atom-z | greycat, amd64-k8 |
| 19:45.04 | FieldySnuts | and then lart you for not reading the topic |
| 19:45.14 | defcon8 | oh i know what the topic is |
| 19:45.17 | _wrykyn | defcon8: they do it on purpose to prevent gaim from working with msn. its not a coincidence |
| 19:45.18 | atom-z | greycat, amd64-k8 (2.6.8) |
| 19:45.19 | streuner | defcon8: just IRC then |
| 19:45.24 | streuner | defcon8: use* |
| 19:45.29 | defcon8 | streuner, she is a n00b |
| 19:45.37 | greycat | atom-z: 2.6, so use ALSA plus the OSS compatibility thingy. |
| 19:45.39 | greycat | !alsa |
| 19:45.39 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 19:45.54 | streuner | defcon8: we were all newbies... |
| 19:46.14 | defcon8 | streuner, yeah well i prefer to look at the present |
| 19:46.27 | Caelum | whoever told me about the crontab @reboot thing, thanks, works beautifully |
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| 19:47.27 | jsan | my friends i know this is a chanel about debina , isnt about qmail but is possible a help about qmail here ? |
| 19:47.47 | turing | does anyone know of a good guide on the syntax of the autofs config files, with examples? |
| 19:48.04 | Caelum | would it be impolite for an init script to temporarily modify the links to lower priority init scripts? |
| 19:48.16 | turing | I'd like to try and use it to ensure that a single NFS mount is always up |
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| 19:48.42 | Lumination | greycat, I'm kind of new to sendmail and fetchmail... I've always used a frontend like thunderbird or something, but I'm getting into using system monitoring with mailable alerts... so go easy on me here... |
| 19:48.43 | Caelum | turing: why not just put a hard mount into fstab? |
| 19:48.50 | greycat | !mail tutorial |
| 19:48.51 | dpkg | hmm... mail tutorial is at http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
| 19:49.03 | Lumination | cool thanks |
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| 19:49.30 | turing | Caelum: I've been given to understand through reading things google pointed me to that it is not necessarily the best way to ensure a mount is always available |
| 19:49.36 | jsan | graycat do you speak portuguese ? |
| 19:49.45 | turing | Caelum: I need to make sure an NFS mount is accessible to a webserver process at all times |
| 19:50.16 | streuner | turing: man exports |
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| 19:50.34 | turing | streuner: I have an export running already that works perfectly |
| 19:50.48 | turing | however on the client machine, I've seen a fair amount of stuff that says "don't use fstab" |
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| 19:50.51 | Caelum | turing: yeah, mounts can become stale if the server goes down and is restarted and stuff, I think |
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| 19:51.14 | Caelum | mounts can go stale under all sorts of conditions, and then all you can do is reboot the machine |
| 19:51.25 | turing | Caelum: exactly - re: rebooting, not an option |
| 19:51.33 | Caelum | nfs blows hairy goat nads |
| 19:51.47 | cheeby | hi. I installed debian for the first time last night, the 'sarge' release. why the 2.4 kernel? |
| 19:51.58 | turing | Caelum: any other suggestions on how to create a small, stable file share in a cluster of webservers? |
| 19:52.05 | greycat | if an NFS server goes down and comes back up with the SAME ip address, your hard mounts will be fine. |
| 19:52.06 | streuner | cheeby: use 'linux26' to boot with an 2.6.x kernel |
| 19:52.20 | cheeby | streuner, at the boot: prompt? |
| 19:52.30 | greycat | NFS + dynamic IP addresses = Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here |
| 19:52.32 | Caelum | greycat: cool, wasn't sure about that |
| 19:52.32 | streuner | cheeby: at the start |
| 19:52.38 | turing | greycat: the NFS server will always have a static IP |
| 19:52.45 | turing | so I'm ok there ;) |
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| 19:52.48 | streuner | cheeby: 2.4.27 is default |
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| 19:52.56 | greycat | the client needs one, too, because that's how the server authenticates it. by IP. this is 1980s tech, remember., |
| 19:52.59 | Caelum | cheeby: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 19:53.08 | turing | greycat: all that stuff is good |
| 19:53.16 | turing | I'm on a private subnet |
| 19:53.18 | turing | so I authed the whole subnet ;) |
| 19:53.21 | cheeby | streuner, yeah. that's what I mean -- at the start of the intstallation. |
| 19:53.25 | streuner | cheeby: you want install an 2.6.x kernel? |
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| 19:53.31 | cheeby | yes. |
| 19:53.32 | greycat | if the client's IP *changes* I don't know what'll happen. |
| 19:53.32 | turing | the subnet is tiny and protected |
| 19:53.35 | madclicker | how do i bring up a phisical interface without any ip for a pppoe connection? |
| 19:53.36 | greycat | it can't be good. |
| 19:53.39 | turing | no |
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| 19:53.47 | streuner | cheeby: so do what Caelum suggested |
| 19:53.47 | cheeby | Caelum, thanks. need to look at the apt commands. |
| 19:53.49 | turing | but in my case, I use fixed ips and the connection is stable |
| 19:53.55 | greycat | madclicker: "ifconfig eth1 up" |
| 19:53.55 | cheeby | streuner, yep. will do. |
| 19:54.00 | turing | but I need to ensure that the mount on the client is always good |
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| 19:54.31 | turing | are there any tools for just health monitoring a particular NFS mount? |
| 19:54.37 | turing | autofs seems overkill |
| 19:54.56 | greycat | turing: just stat(2) a file that's on the mounted file system periodically. or the mount point itself maybe. |
| 19:55.03 | Caelum | turing: I'm sure there are nagios plugins, or you can write one |
| 19:55.18 | cheeby | streuner, thanks |
| 19:55.23 | green_earz | cheeby: now its up and running you can install a new kerenl image with ease, just " aptitude search kernel-image" find the one you want and "aptitude install kernel-image-xxxxx" |
| 19:55.25 | cheeby | Caelum, thanks. |
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| 19:55.38 | madclicker | greycat: if i place "auto eth0" and do a "network" restart i get the error "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" |
| 19:55.39 | streuner | cheeby: you're welcome. |
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| 19:56.00 | cheeby | green_earz, thanks. |
| 19:56.03 | turing | greycat: but that assumes I have autoFS running, eh? |
| 19:56.06 | cheeby | the whole install took about 20 minutes. pretty amazing. |
| 19:56.30 | turing | Caelum: I'm not using nagios - it's a bit beefy... I use a tool called monit, which I could easily use to monitor autofs |
| 19:56.31 | greycat | madclicker: I have no clue how to do it with interfaces(5). I abandoned Linux as my NAT gateway before interfaces(5) came around. |
| 19:56.39 | streuner | cheeby: well, not if you install KDE or/and GNOME ;-) |
| 19:56.54 | streuner | they are each about 200 MB nowadays |
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| 19:56.58 | madclicker | greycat: what are you using instead? |
| 19:57.01 | cheeby | streuner, yeah. this is bare bones. |
| 19:57.02 | greycat | OpenBSD |
| 19:57.04 | green_earz | cheeby: here is a very handy debian doc , bookmark it : "Debian Reference " > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html and wellcome |
| 19:57.06 | cheeby | gonna be a firewall. |
| 19:57.15 | Caelum | turing: there's always stuff like coda if you don't like nfs, although for what you're doing nfs should be ok |
| 19:57.15 | cheeby | green_earz, cool! thanks. |
| 19:57.20 | green_earz | np |
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| 19:57.32 | derblubber | can someone tell me, how to restrict access to a specific port to a few special IPs with iptables? |
| 19:57.34 | madclicker | greycat:can i ask why so? |
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| 19:57.39 | albo_ | anyone know a good postfix log analyzer? im going to try awstats |
| 19:57.45 | arango | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.49 | turing | Caelum: coda is just a research project, right? |
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| 19:58.02 | streuner | albo_: awstats is a webanalyser, apache |
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| 19:58.09 | streuner | apt, info awstats |
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| 19:58.17 | greycat | madclicker: OpenBSD is *so* much better as a firewall. (And keep in mind this was during the ipchains days, too.) |
| 19:58.18 | Caelum | turing: sure, but it's been around for years now and there are lots of tools for it. Also I think afs went free now |
| 19:58.28 | sn00p | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.43 | greycat | if you installed and configured gpm, yes |
| 19:59.16 | politik | When I use apt-get source, the files user/group is assigned to one of my box's users (different than the user I am logged in as). What could be causing this? |
| 19:59.20 | stew | awstats has had a bad security track record recently |
| 19:59.26 | albo_ | streuner: do you have a suggestion instead of a false and altogether useless accusation |
| 19:59.27 | greycat | politik: NFS |
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| 19:59.42 | politik | greycat: I'm not using NFS |
| 19:59.43 | streuner | albo_: awstats has nothing to do with postfix |
| 19:59.45 | greycat | you probably mismatched the UIDs/names between the NFS servre and the NFS client |
| 19:59.47 | jsan | greycat is possible continue helpme in #qmail |
| 19:59.48 | arango | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.19 | albo_ | streuner: that small fact is irrelevant. do you know a postfix log analyzer |
| 20:00.36 | madclicker | what do i place in "/etc/network/interfaces" to bring up an interface without any IP or NETMASK nor GATEWAY? |
| 20:00.37 | greycat | arango: you tell us. did it work? |
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| 20:01.18 | Caelum | albo_: there's stuff on google like http://www.postfix.org/addon.html |
| 20:01.27 | arango | greycat: I can't figure out how to encode using dts |
| 20:01.27 | Lumination | greycat, hey what if your pop3 server requires you enter your full email address as your username? then you will have something like blah@blah.com@blah.com as your envelope address right? |
| 20:01.32 | green_earz | derblubber: a very good iptable book is " linux fierwall, robert l ziegler" check out amazon for a second hand one. |
| 20:01.33 | greycat | arango: ask #mplayer |
| 20:01.37 | streuner | zerberus:/home/streuner# apt-cache search postfix analyser |
| 20:01.46 | streuner | anteater - MTA log analyser written 100% in C++ |
| 20:01.56 | greycat | Lumination: no, POP3 uses "USER" and "PASS". It has no concept of envelopes. |
| 20:02.16 | greycat | Lumination: the username/password you use for POP3 don't even have to be the same as the left hand side of your e-mail address. |
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| 20:02.21 | Caelum | c++ for a log analyzer seems overkill |
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| 20:02.44 | streuner | Filename: pool/main/a/anteater/anteater_0.4.5-2_i386.deb |
| 20:02.44 | streuner | Size: 115592 |
| 20:02.45 | stew | albo_: did you mean me when you said "false and altogether useless accusation" becuase my accusation was neither false nor useless |
| 20:03.04 | streuner | Caelum: well, 115 k should be ok |
| 20:03.05 | albo_ | streuner: and what did you see above anteater on the postfix page |
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| 20:03.32 | Caelum | streuner: don't mean in size, just that perl or python seems like a much easier way to write a log analyzer |
| 20:03.48 | Caelum | that's what those languages are for |
| 20:03.50 | kamaraju | My computer hanged recently. In my /var/log/messages there is an error saying that 'localhost kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef' Does this mean that my hard drive is going to crash? I have backups just in case. |
| 20:03.52 | Lumination | greycat, I read the tutorial (at least the appropriate sections) and it seems to me that fetchmail is trying to write things to the pop3 server (like temp files or something) and it's not root, so it's getting refused... is this feasible? |
| 20:03.54 | greycat | Caelum: but ... but ... obviously reading one line at a time until the EOF should be object oriented!!! |
| 20:03.58 | streuner | Caelum: ok, answer the question from 'albo_' then :-) |
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| 20:04.04 | Caelum | hehe |
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| 20:04.34 | Caelum | kamaraju: you might want to look at changing some parameters with hdparm |
| 20:04.36 | greycat | Lumination: fetchmail connects to a POP3 server, authenticates, gets a list of messages, and then retrieves them one at a time. It connects to an SMTP server and delivers each of the messages, then tells the POP3 server to delete it. |
| 20:04.55 | sn00p | When I start X I get error with my mice it says /dev/input/mice device not found whats wrong |
| 20:04.57 | politik | any other ideas? |
| 20:05.02 | kamaraju | Caelum: Any idea which parameters I should look at? |
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| 20:05.45 | streuner | albo_: try #postfix too |
| 20:07.10 | sn00p | I dont think half of my hardware works |
| 20:07.27 | sn00p | <greycat> Caelum: but ... but ... obviously reading one line at a time until |
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| 20:08.26 | drac | */180 * * * * is valid crontab, like every 3 hours? i'm checking logcheck to not send mails so often. |
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| 20:08.31 | drac | s/checking/changing/ |
| 20:08.35 | sn00p | Where is the kernel source in debian? |
| 20:08.45 | greycat | it's valid syntax, but there aren't 180 minutes in an hour, and it most CERTAINYL doesn't mean "every 3 hours" |
| 20:09.05 | streuner | sn00p: /usr/src/ is default |
| 20:09.05 | streuner | usually |
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| 20:09.21 | greycat | I bet cron would interpret that to mean "every minute", if it doesn't just chuck it as an error. |
| 20:09.26 | sn00p | its not there |
| 20:09.27 | stew | drac: every 3 hours would be * */3 * * * |
| 20:09.32 | greycat | stew: nope ;-) |
| 20:09.32 | streuner | sn00p: in debian /usr/src/kernel-2.x.x-headers or somesuch |
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| 20:09.35 | stew | no? |
| 20:09.37 | stew | hrm |
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| 20:09.40 | greycat | stew: 0 in the first field |
| 20:09.42 | sn00p | I have to d/l them huh |
| 20:09.45 | stew | oh, doh |
| 20:09.45 | stew | yeah |
| 20:09.46 | Heaven|Works | guys how to install LAME |
| 20:09.50 | greycat | Heaven|Works: /msg dpkg lame |
| 20:09.57 | drac | so 0 */3 * * * ? :) |
| 20:10.00 | sn00p | My mouse doesn't seem to work |
| 20:10.04 | greycat | drac: yes |
| 20:10.09 | drac | greycat, stew: thanks |
| 20:10.17 | sn00p | How do I check to see what packages I have installed |
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| 20:10.37 | streuner | sn00p: dpkg -l | grep <string> |
| 20:10.52 | green_earz | sn00p: dpkg -l | more |
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| 20:11.25 | sn00p | X says there is no device for my mouse /dev/input/mice |
| 20:11.44 | streuner | sn00p: what kind of mouse do you have, USB? |
| 20:11.47 | atom-z | i installed alsa, but alsaconf says it cannot find a PnP or PCI soundcard |
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| 20:12.11 | resiak | green_earz: less is more! |
| 20:12.18 | sn00p | yea |
| 20:12.18 | sn00p | Do I have to recompile |
| 20:12.20 | streuner | atom-z: sounds like your soundcard isn't very well supported by ALSA... |
| 20:12.30 | greycat | sn00p: load the mousedev module |
| 20:12.35 | sn00p | Its Microsoft Intellimouse |
| 20:12.36 | sn00p | Wireless OPtical |
| 20:12.36 | Lumination | well it seems that my server uses IMAP as well... I set fetchmail to use IMAP and ran fetchmail -v from a console... it fetched the list using IMAP, then it went into reading the messages one-by-one [reading message blah@blah.com@blah.com:1 of 7 (2283 header octets)] and switches to SMTP and gives me a "... Sender OK" then a "250 2.1.5 <anthony@localhost>... Recipient ok" then I get IMAP messages that fetch completed OK, then SMTP give |
| 20:12.36 | Lumination | s me ". (EOM)" (end of mail I'm guessing) and then gives me the permission denied trying to write a wacky filename through SMTP ---sorry about the book--- |
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| 20:13.08 | sn00p | how? |
| 20:13.14 | greycat | Lumination: as I suspected... it's the SMTP server that's messed up. |
| 20:13.20 | atom-z | streuner, i'm trying to use the onboard sound (its an ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe motherboard) |
| 20:13.23 | gelpg | hi |
| 20:13.31 | green_earz | resiak: or is it that more is less ? |
| 20:13.35 | Lumination | k |
| 20:13.39 | resiak | green_earz: Both ;) |
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| 20:13.44 | streuner | atom-z: you need in linux always the chipset... |
| 20:13.45 | politik | greycat: does dpkg run as some special user? maybe it's set to run as this other user? |
| 20:13.56 | streuner | atom-z: lspci -v | grep -i audio |
| 20:14.00 | politik | greycat: so far I have only had this happen with apt-get source |
| 20:14.09 | green_earz | resiak: so they are more or less the same |
| 20:14.09 | greycat | politik: are you running the apt-get as root or as yourself? |
| 20:14.16 | politik | greycat: root |
| 20:14.18 | sn00p | greycat: how? |
| 20:14.28 | resiak | green_earz: I give up, you win. :) |
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| 20:14.43 | atom-z | streuner, nvidia nForce |
| 20:14.44 | greycat | politik: well there's the problem. you're extracting a tarball as root, so the files get chown'ed to whatever tar thinks they should be owned by based on its analysis of the usernames inside the tarball and your local usernames. |
| 20:14.53 | green_earz | resiak: we win more less |
| 20:15.39 | politik | greycat: that's pretty lame behavior on tar's part |
| 20:15.57 | greycat | politik: perhaps, but you should be running apt-get source as yourself anyway |
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| 20:16.13 | politik | so tar only does this if I'm root? |
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| 20:16.31 | peterS | politik: non-root users aren't allowed to chown, at least on some systems |
| 20:16.49 | peterS | I forget whether linux has chown giveaways |
| 20:16.56 | nerdy2 | it doesn't |
| 20:17.14 | nerdy2 | [i also forgot but went to a terminal :)] |
| 20:17.14 | peterS | sure enough, it doesn't |
| 20:17.18 | sn00p | How do I configure my USB mouse device for X? |
| 20:17.29 | peterS | sn00p: should be configured already. just load some kernel modules |
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| 20:17.48 | peterS | sn00p: what USB controller do you have? is that module loaded already? here is how to tell what type: lspci -v | awk '/USB/{print $NF}' |
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| 20:18.01 | peterS | sn00p: it will tell you whether you have UHCI, OHCI, and/or EHCI |
| 20:18.22 | politik | greycat: is there somewhere to change the parameters apt-get source uses for tar? apparently there is a --no-same-user parameter that may fix it |
| 20:18.53 | greycat | politik: if you're running apt-get as root, you could just chown the resulting tree. |
| 20:19.09 | trodrigues | hi. i'd like to install debian testing here. should i use the the sarge netinst cd i have, or the daily build? |
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| 20:19.29 | ecobit | trodrigues: i used the daily d-i build a few days ago and it failed |
| 20:19.29 | streuner | trodrigues: use d-i |
| 20:19.37 | sn00p | peterS: I have UHCI |
| 20:19.44 | ecobit | trodrigues: i would use the stable installer instead |
| 20:19.46 | peterS | sn00p: kernel 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 20:19.48 | sn00p | 2.4 |
| 20:19.58 | peterS | sn00p: in kernel 2.4, the kernel module is called 'uhci' |
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| 20:20.10 | sn00p | ok, |
| 20:20.18 | sn00p | how do I see or load the kernel module? |
| 20:20.25 | peterS | sn00p: so, you want to load that module. also, you want to load the modules 'hid' (for the USB mouse) and 'mousedev' (for general mouse handling) |
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| 20:20.26 | trodrigues | ecobit: ok, thanks :) |
| 20:20.27 | greycat | peterS: why did they have to rename all the modules in 2.6? was it JUST to make our lives harder? |
| 20:20.29 | peterS | sn00p: try 'modprobe uhci' |
| 20:20.43 | peterS | greycat: heh. hid -> usbhid makes sense. hid is not very descriptive. |
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| 20:20.56 | turing | heh. all of the autofs syntax examples I see are for people with desktops etc |
| 20:21.01 | peterS | greycat: as for uhci -> uhci_hcd, well, the driver went through some significant changes, like being merged with usb-uhci |
| 20:21.04 | streuner | atom-z: if nobody can answer you question, use usenet (groups.google.com) |
| 20:21.04 | turing | who need to mount USB keys ;) |
| 20:21.15 | sn00p | peterS: it says I get IO or IRQ e rrors |
| 20:21.31 | peterS | sn00p: oh that's interesting. what specifically does 'dmesg | tail' say about the USB controller? |
| 20:21.39 | peterS | sn00p: if it's more than one or two lines, don't paste it here though |
| 20:21.40 | atom-z | streuner, ok |
| 20:22.02 | sn00p | peterS: nothing its already loaded |
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| 20:22.17 | streuner | atom-z: google with '<your chipset> ALSA debian' |
| 20:22.20 | peterS | sn00p: oh ok. so use 'lsmod' to see whether the other two modules - 'hid' and 'mousedev' - are loaded too |
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| 20:23.02 | sn00p | peterS: neither of them are |
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| 20:24.09 | sn00p | peterS: How do I load them |
| 20:24.28 | peterS | sn00p: hold on a sec, I'm on the phone |
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| 20:24.46 | sn00p | peterS: I just did modprobe hid and morpdobe mousedev |
| 20:24.56 | sn00p | modprobe* |
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| 20:25.22 | sn00p | They are loaded now |
| 20:25.38 | deepz | hey guys i have USB wireless nic from 3com |
| 20:25.49 | peterS | sn00p: so your mouse is probably working |
| 20:25.55 | sn00p | yes |
| 20:26.04 | sn00p | I just went into X i gotta reconfigure it again] |
| 20:26.09 | sn00p | got weird lines |
| 20:26.16 | peterS | sn00p: to make sure it works next time you boot, add two lines 'hid' and 'mousedev' to /etc/modules |
| 20:26.22 | peterS | sn00p: that's a text file, just go and edit it |
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| 20:26.45 | morbius`wk | what would cause my X to not go into 1280x1024? i know my device can handle it... |
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| 20:27.02 | deepz | how do install iti n sarge |
| 20:27.07 | peterS | sn00p: as for X, the debian default config sets it up with two mouse devices, one for USB, one for whatever you specify in the X config. so it actually probably should work already, regardless of what you said |
| 20:27.11 | deepz | i have kernel 2.4 |
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| 20:27.36 | abrotman | morbius`wk: you didn't configure it correctly ? |
| 20:28.04 | sn00p | peterS: X doesn't show desktop it just shows a bunch of garbage |
| 20:28.13 | stew | morbius`wk: read /var/log/XFree86.0.log to see why, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to fix it |
| 20:28.13 | antgel_ | it's funny, when it comes to newbies, i don't have a clue. my parents have a celeron 533 with 256MB and 6GB hard disk. it runs xp pro, firefox, OE and Word. |
| 20:28.27 | peterS | sn00p: bunch of garbage? that's not a mouse problem, then. could you be more specific? |
| 20:28.31 | toresbe | What's an OOo write doc extension? SXW? |
| 20:28.34 | deepz | hey guys how do install usb nic on my pc its sarge |
| 20:28.37 | deepz | wireless nic |
| 20:28.38 | peterS | toresbe: yeah, sxw |
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| 20:28.41 | morbius`wk | thanks stew |
| 20:28.44 | sn00p | peterS: something wrong with the video card I think |
| 20:28.44 | toresbe | thanks |
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| 20:28.49 | sn00p | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.51 | peterS | toresbe: it's a zip format file with all kinds of crap in it, mostly xml |
| 20:28.58 | antgel_ | i'm thinking about getting sarge on there. reckon kde and gnome will be too bloated, but they need something easy. xfce? icewm? or forget a desktop with those specs? |
| 20:28.58 | peterS | sn00p: ok what video card? |
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| 20:29.13 | toresbe | peterS: yeah, I know, just blanked on the extension :) thanks |
| 20:29.16 | resiak | deepz: Because we clearly know what model of card it is, through our magical telepathy/IP skills. |
| 20:29.32 | antgel_ | main apps would be thundercock, firecock and openoffice |
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| 20:29.42 | deepz | 3com office connect wireless 11g |
| 20:29.56 | resiak | antgel_: Gnome will run on that. |
| 20:29.56 | deepz | its usb |
| 20:30.03 | abrotman | ew |
| 20:30.23 | turing | oh ok |
| 20:30.29 | deepz | resaik:3com office connect wireless 11g |
| 20:30.30 | turing | f* autofs, not that it's bad |
| 20:30.31 | antgel_ | resiak: on a celeron 533? i'm in the dark here, i haven't used kde or gnome for years. |
| 20:30.40 | turing | but I can keep an nfs mount up with mount -a -t nfs ;) |
| 20:30.43 | peterS | I can tell abrotman is just itching to help him get that puppy running with debian |
| 20:30.46 | turing | and fstab, and stat |
| 20:30.46 | turing | heh |
| 20:30.48 | turing | danke all |
| 20:30.50 | silvercat | hello. I just did an adduser, and then smbpasswd <username>, but I get "Failed to find entry for <username>". whats wrong? |
| 20:30.54 | resiak | antgel_: (I ran Gnome until fairly recently on a 400MHz box with 128MB of RAM.) But just try them and see. My bias is Gnome then XFce for that kinda situation, but hey. |
| 20:31.05 | resiak | deepz: Hell, don't tell me, I have NFI. |
| 20:31.12 | hellz | where do i get simplest c code for rarp? |
| 20:31.40 | deepz | hellz:search it on net |
| 20:31.40 | peterS | hellz: nobody uses rarp anymore, it's all about the bootp/dhcp (: |
| 20:31.47 | Daffy-PKF | in wich package can i find dig please? |
| 20:31.49 | green_earz | antgel_: its about 2.5 gig for a stardard install. i would install the stardard setup and let them have fun |
| 20:31.53 | peterS | Daffy-PKF: dnsutils |
| 20:31.56 | antgel_ | resiak: i know, try it. that's what i say to everyone. it's funny to think that i see myself as knowing a fair amount, but when the olds ask questions, our needs are so different i haven't got a clue lol |
| 20:31.57 | turing | dnsutils |
| 20:31.58 | turing | oh heh |
| 20:32.13 | deepz | hellz:dont u know google |
| 20:32.16 | green_earz | antgel_: what the memory size ? |
| 20:32.23 | Daffy-PKF | peterS> thanks |
| 20:32.24 | resiak | green_earz: Scroll up. |
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| 20:32.39 | hellz | peterS: i need to find out the ip address for a mac |
| 20:32.40 | peterS | Daffy-PKF: in the future, remember: /msg dpkg find bin/dig |
| 20:32.56 | antgel_ | green_earz: i think i might just do that. i can't handle xp on this shitbox. they have 256mb. they are by no means power users, web, email, office suite should do the job |
| 20:33.16 | antgel_ | and i need to see whether their (literally) dumb brother printer is supported |
| 20:33.32 | Daffy-PKF | peterS> interesting, i tried with apt-cache search, but it give too any things |
| 20:33.35 | deepz | hey guys anybody on wireless usb nic installation in sarge |
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| 20:33.45 | resiak | !tell antgel_ -about printer |
| 20:33.50 | antgel_ | resiak: were you running woody or sarge on the 400mhz box. any mozilla apps? openoffice? |
| 20:33.57 | green_earz | antgel_: if you can a bit more memory the better but it should be ok |
| 20:33.57 | resiak | !tell deepz -about smart questions |
| 20:33.58 | antgel_ | resiak: i know where to look, ta |
| 20:34.05 | peterS | Daffy-PKF: dpkg the bot has an interface to the Contents files on the debian mirrors. another such interface is http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 20:34.09 | resiak | antgel_: Sure. |
| 20:34.23 | peterS | Daffy-PKF: another such is the apt-file package, but that requires you to download these huge Contents files from time to time |
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| 20:35.04 | antgel_ | resiak: you haven't really given any caveats either. this is exciting. |
| 20:35.12 | trym | there is no pain, you are receiving |
| 20:35.18 | peterS | trym: receding |
| 20:35.31 | trym | hum ? |
| 20:35.36 | peterS | there is no pain, you are receding |
| 20:35.41 | trym | yes.. |
| 20:35.52 | trym | dirka dirka |
| 20:36.16 | resiak | antgel_: Sarge. Firebadger, Thunderbird, AbiWord, Gnumeric. OOo ran, but was dog slow starting, so I rarely used it. It's still dog slow on my new machines, though. ;) I only say to use Gnome because I suspect it to be more grandparent-friendly than XFce, which I switched to on that machine a while before I upgraded it for lack-of-ram reasons. But then I only had 128MB, so. |
| 20:36.47 | peterS | resiak: firebadger? don't you mean iceweasel? |
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| 20:37.03 | trym | harro |
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| 20:37.13 | resiak | antgel_: If you keep unnecessary cruft to a minimum (and avoid Evilution like the plague) then you should be okay, but just try it. :) |
| 20:37.25 | resiak | peterS: Watersnake! |
| 20:37.42 | black13 | can rebuilding the kernel also create an initial ramdisk as a by product |
| 20:37.48 | antgel_ | resiak: you are right about OOo being slow. it's slow on my amd64. it's just a Word viewer :) |
| 20:37.49 | outlaw84 | what was the application that generateade a new XF86Config file |
| 20:37.52 | peterS | resiak: iceweasel is the name for the debian package for firefox, in case the mozilla foundation tells us we can't use their trademark |
| 20:38.02 | resiak | peterS: Really? |
| 20:38.25 | wols_ | peterS: didn't they tell debian already? |
| 20:38.31 | peterS | resiak: there was a long discussion about the Mozilla Foundation (abbrev MoFo)'s trademark and whether debian could use it, since our packages are not the original - they're modified somewhat |
| 20:38.41 | entropic | LEAR |
| 20:38.42 | wols_ | outlaw84: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:38.45 | resiak | antgel_: AbiWord is not as good about reading .doc, but it works for most things. |
| 20:39.00 | outlaw84 | wols_: for what package |
| 20:39.09 | peterS | resiak: MoFo has offered an unlimited use of the trademark name 'firefox' to debian, since debian packaging is high-quality and they don't think it reflects badly on the foundation at all |
| 20:39.10 | resiak | peterS: I was aware of the discussion, but I thought that it ended at not using the official artwork, and possibly rebranding it Debian Firefox (like Debian Thunderbird). |
| 20:39.36 | wols_ | outlaw84: the xserver |
| 20:39.40 | peterS | resiak: oh, ok. well, during the discussion everyone seemed to agree that iceweasel would be the alternate name, if necessary |
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| 20:39.42 | resiak | peterS: But that's not good enough, since that doesn't extend to derivatives, right? |
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| 20:40.02 | resiak | peterS: I'm far less well read in this than you, I'm sure. :)^W(: |
| 20:40.19 | peterS | resiak: it's mainly eric dorland's own misgivings - he's the debian maintainer for it. he doesn't want debian to exercise rights that our end-users don't have |
| 20:40.25 | Eno_ | when i send an email with mutt (using exim) and receieve it with fetchmail, it says From: Real Name <username@host> -- how can i change the username part to something else? its currently using my actual username, but i want to change it to what my username on the pop server is |
| 20:40.35 | peterS | resiak: like the right to modify firefox and still call it firefox |
| 20:40.39 | wols_ | resiak: I was under the same impression. that debian couldn't accept the MoFo license terms as well |
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| 20:41.09 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: aussiesmite abrotman |
| 20:41.12 | peterS | wols_: most people don't have a problem with it. because if anyone *does* have to rename firefox, it's still free software. just debian is told that we don't have to rename it, which is better all around for everyone |
| 20:41.13 | wols_ | peterS: but it would got contrary to DFSG, no? |
| 20:41.14 | FieldySnuts | or don't |
| 20:41.16 | resiak | peterS: Right, that's what I understood the problem was, but not why exactly it was a problem. I thought that it was non-DFSG, but maintainer misgivings works too. |
| 20:41.28 | peterS | wols_: even renaming it wouldn't be contrary to the dfsg. that's why most people don't have a problem with the current situation |
| 20:41.35 | wols_ | peterS: I just don't like all this trademarking lately |
| 20:41.47 | wols_ | firefox, linux itself, etc |
| 20:41.53 | resiak | Eno_: my_hdr From: Your Name <blaireau@champignon.org> |
| 20:42.04 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 20:42.05 | peterS | resiak: the problem eric dorland sees is, Debian made a special deal with the MoFo that our users aren't part of. whether we *needed* the deal for firefox to be free software isn't his main concern |
| 20:42.12 | trym | dirka dirka ? |
| 20:42.20 | Eno_ | resiak: what? |
| 20:42.31 | FieldySnuts | what the heck is dirka dirka |
| 20:42.33 | peterS | maybe we should name the browser in honor of one of our citizens here: Firesnuts |
| 20:42.41 | resiak | Eno_: zless /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz , and the Mutt FAQ on the mutt website. It's all documented. That's a .muttrc line. |
| 20:42.43 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 20:42.44 | trym | FieldySnuts: you have missed out on a good movie |
| 20:42.53 | Eno_ | resiak: thanks :) |
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| 20:43.00 | FieldySnuts | wouldn't be the first time |
| 20:43.14 | resiak | peterS: I see. Well, whatever, I'll just stick to Galeon and be happ(y|ier). |
| 20:43.29 | peterS | resiak: I'm a galeon man too, though I probably use elinks more |
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| 20:43.54 | peterS | resiak: in my case it's because the last time I tried firefox was two renames ago, when it was phoenix, and it just wasn't all that great back then |
| 20:44.03 | peterS | resiak: I understand I'm a bit out of date on my knowledge of it *now* |
| 20:44.20 | resiak | peterS: It's not all that good now, either. It's better than all the rest _on_ _Windows_, but... |
| 20:44.22 | antgel_ | peterS: it's not that great now but like mutt, it just sucks less :) |
| 20:44.35 | peterS | resiak: yeah I do use ff on windows |
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| 20:44.41 | FlasHaTor | is there someone who use LIRC with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 20:44.45 | resiak | !anyone use |
| 20:44.45 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 20:45.14 | peterS | elinks hasn't stood still. recently debian got an update that syntax-highlights the 'view source'. I know that's something graphical browsers have done for awhile but it was a pleasant surprise nonetheless |
| 20:45.39 | antgel_ | !start a browser war |
| 20:45.39 | dpkg | Netscape > *! |
| 20:45.49 | FlasHaTor | i have problems to add lirc support to a 2.6 kernel, i don't know how to patch the kernel source |
| 20:45.56 | resiak | peterS: There are so many m/e?l[iy]n(x|ks2?)/ now... I'm never sure which to use. |
| 20:46.13 | peterS | resiak: elinks or links2. they're both actively developed and both quite good |
| 20:46.23 | peterS | resiak: the original links, and lynx, are a lot less fun |
| 20:46.24 | antgel_ | FlasHaTor: you'd do much better to tell us exactly what you're doing and paste relevant stuff somewhere |
| 20:46.36 | fumpelkilzchen | does anybody ever tried to publish printers in an M$2003 ADS? Im trying the following command: net ads printer publish <printername> and i allways get the error: ads_publish_printer: object class violation; does anybody understand this error? i cant handle this message? |
| 20:46.36 | peterS | resiak: nice regex though |
| 20:46.45 | antgel_ | my understanding is that elinks is the nuts but i never quite have the motivation to learn to drive it |
| 20:46.53 | antgel_ | did i just say that? |
| 20:46.54 | antgel_ | :/ |
| 20:47.00 | resiak | peterS: I tend to use links2, thinking about it. I'll prod elinks. IIRC it supports tabs... but links2 does graphics :) |
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| 20:47.09 | peterS | antgel_: it *is* pretty nice |
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| 20:47.16 | peterS | resiak: right, elinks does tabs. doesn't have a -g. |
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| 20:47.53 | peterS | resiak: capital T opens a link in a new tab, ctrl-t opens a new tab by itself, < and > move between tabs, c closes a tab |
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| 20:47.57 | peterS | resiak: that's all you have to know about *that* (: |
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| 20:48.06 | resiak | peterS: \o/ |
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| 20:48.23 | abrotman | yeah .. that didn't look suspicious :) |
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| 20:48.44 | resiak | /msg abrotman hot teen chat!!1 |
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| 20:48.55 | abrotman | resiak: oddly .. i just got a msg .. but it was blank :) |
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| 20:49.08 | resiak | abrotman: Invisible ink! |
| 20:49.13 | antgel_ | i'm using irssi for pretty much first time, how do i block idiots from msg'ing me? |
| 20:49.13 | abrotman | oh ffs |
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| 20:49.28 | abrotman | antgel_: /umode +E is one way |
| 20:49.32 | resiak | antgel_: /ignore is another |
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| 20:49.43 | antgel_ | abrotman: that's the one, ta |
| 20:49.50 | peterS | uh, irssi doesn't have /umode by default |
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| 20:49.57 | peterS | but /mode username +E is as good (: |
| 20:50.03 | resiak | peterS: Mine did. |
| 20:50.08 | abrotman | peterS: seemingly .. none of the clients i've used do |
| 20:50.08 | peterS | resiak: well hmmmm. mine didn't. |
| 20:50.16 | resiak | peterS: Want to take this outside? |
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| 20:50.22 | peterS | hehe |
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| 20:50.29 | sn00p | peterS: My screen is funny |
| 20:50.34 | obscuresoul | hello, how can i add modules to initrd? |
| 20:50.41 | peterS | sn00p: if your screen looks funny in the morning, you're listening to ... Imus in the Morning |
| 20:50.43 | djperegrine | what the fuck, poeple keep on sending me blank messages |
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| 20:51.02 | djperegrine | from different IP's, like every 45 seconds or so |
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| 20:51.06 | peterS | djperegrine: freenode just had an ircd upgrade some 14 hours ago. maybe that's it |
| 20:51.12 | kamaraju | djperegrine: I am getting the same. |
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| 20:51.18 | sn00p | peterS: lol its all fuzzy |
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| 20:51.28 | black13 | abrotman does buildind a new kernel cause the creation of an initrd.img file? |
| 20:51.31 | peterS | sn00p: what graphics card? I asked you before and I didn't notice whether you answered or not |
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| 20:51.51 | sn00p | peterS: oh i was afk, i have nvidia |
| 20:51.51 | peterS | black13: installing a kernel package via dpkg should do so |
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| 20:52.02 | deadcat | haha sn00p is back. |
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| 20:52.20 | peterS | sn00p d4\/\/g |
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| 20:52.38 | sn00p | ? |
| 20:52.43 | deadcat | sn00p: (= |
| 20:52.59 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 20:53.04 | deadcat | wrong dude. because sn00p_ was trolling like crazy last night. |
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| 20:53.17 | sn00p | ? |
| 20:53.17 | abrotman | what's up with all the stupid bots |
| 20:53.28 | djperegrine | I don't think they are bots |
| 20:53.37 | abrotman | djperegrine: they're not in this channel .. |
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| 20:53.44 | abrotman | unless it's the morons targeting me again .. they're bots |
| 20:53.56 | _SerhaT_ | I am beeing spammed also.. so they're bots somehow heh |
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| 20:54.10 | sn00p | WHy do I get a fuzzy screen in X :( |
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| 20:54.18 | _SerhaT_ | isn't there a 'don't accept messages from non identified users' mode on this server? |
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| 20:54.25 | djperegrine | sn00p, fuzzy math |
| 20:54.34 | abrotman | because your LCD is set to anything but the native resolution ? |
| 20:54.36 | sn00p | I configured everything right |
| 20:54.38 | djperegrine | are you a democrate? that might be why XD |
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| 20:54.43 | sn00p | I dont have LCD |
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| 20:54.48 | sn00p | WHere Did I say I have LCD |
| 20:54.50 | abrotman | then your monitor is out of focus? |
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| 20:55.06 | abrotman | sn00p: don't be a dick .. i'm suggesting shit! |
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| 20:55.12 | sn00p | I dont make enough money to be repulibcan |
| 20:55.24 | sn00p | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.25 | drp | what's the tool to configure X called |
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| 20:55.30 | sn00p | xf86config |
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| 20:55.31 | drp | that automated app |
| 20:55.37 | PeterB | !drxx drp |
| 20:55.38 | dpkg | drp: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 20:56.40 | streuner | abrotman: did someone /msg you too? |
| 20:56.47 | abrotman | streuner: tons .. all from the same hosts |
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| 20:56.53 | streuner | .mx? |
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| 20:56.57 | djperegrine | arrrg |
| 20:57.01 | abrotman | streuner: among others |
| 20:57.03 | djperegrine | whenever I type it poops up |
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| 20:57.11 | drp | thanks PeterB and sn00p |
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| 20:57.40 | Seb | abrotman: same here |
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| 20:57.54 | abrotman | Seb: yeah .. i'm leaving them open .. christel is marked active |
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| 21:01.01 | djperegrine | dam n |
| 21:01.07 | abrotman | yeah .. |
| 21:01.18 | Seb | nice botnet |
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| 21:01.27 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@83.103.198.197] by dondelelcaro |
| 21:01.29 | samuel | what was that? |
| 21:01.50 | abrotman | samuel: botnet attack on freenode.net apparently |
| 21:01.51 | *** mode/#debian [+bbb *!*@81.180.13.78 *!*@home-213646.galati.astral.ro *!*@ubr-cpe-108.pat-pool.nsad.sbb.co.y] by dondelelcaro |
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| 21:01.58 | streuner | samuel: somebody has too much spare time ;-) |
| 21:02.00 | websdale | wtf? |
| 21:02.06 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: there was a .mx one also .. though i don't have the host |
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| 21:02.13 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i think the staffers are getting them |
| 21:02.20 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah, I'm only banning the ones that I know about |
| 21:02.20 | abrotman | or were :) |
| 21:02.25 | samuel | abrotman, im .mx! |
| 21:02.28 | obscuresoul | how can i add modules to initrd? |
| 21:02.34 | peterS | were we getting bombarded with joins / parts? |
| 21:02.42 | Seb | peterS: roger |
| 21:02.42 | streuner | yes |
| 21:02.43 | peterS | guess I missed it because of my nospambot script |
| 21:02.50 | abrotman | Seb: his name is peter |
| 21:03.03 | peterS | abrotman: it's ok, roger is a jolly name too |
| 21:03.06 | streuner | apt, win peterS |
| 21:03.11 | apt | Congratulations, peterS! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 21:03.11 | Seb | abrotman: will you believe me if I told ya I said 'roger' just for ya ? :D |
| 21:03.19 | peterS | w00t! |
| 21:03.31 | abrotman | well .. that was a boatload of fun |
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| 21:03.42 | streuner | that wasn't a botnet |
| 21:03.47 | abrotman | streuner: it was you? |
| 21:03.51 | Seb | heheh |
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| 21:04.00 | *** mode/#debian [+bbb *!*@80.97.106.165 *!*@mihpanet-bt.botosani.rdsnet.ro *!*@85.101.45.246] by dondelelcaro |
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| 21:04.11 | peterS | abrotman: and that reminds me of a great quote. "It was me. I did it. I moved your cheese." |
| 21:04.27 | abrotman | peterS: i had cheese for lunch! |
| 21:04.30 | peterS | I think I saw that one on slashdot |
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| 21:04.41 | peterS | back a few years ago when 'who moved my cheese?' was such a fad |
| 21:04.48 | streuner | abrotman: the botnet which visited us have always one direction - money... |
| 21:04.50 | Ungy | damn dondelelcaro your keeping busy |
| 21:04.54 | helix | I missed that fad |
| 21:04.59 | abrotman | streuner: we don't have any |
| 21:05.02 | NeoThermic | no, really, who did move my cheese? |
| 21:05.06 | streuner | abrotman: well... |
| 21:05.06 | peterS | helix: it was a self-help book that spawned a marketing *monster* |
| 21:05.07 | leira | my firefox cannot work after restart |
| 21:05.09 | abrotman | NeoThermic: same guy that moved your soap |
| 21:05.11 | helix | seriously? |
| 21:05.14 | peterS | seriously |
| 21:05.25 | NeoThermic | wow, thats clever, I'm using the soap now. Gotta love IRC in a bath |
| 21:05.27 | Ungy | peterS where was this? |
| 21:05.33 | leira | i start it, there is 2 processes: firefox-bin an gonf-2 |
| 21:05.35 | peterS | helix: like the premise of the book was that we're like rats in a maze but our goals (our cheese) are shifted by circumstances we can't control |
| 21:05.45 | helix | oh I see |
| 21:05.56 | helix | Who Moved My Cheese? An Amazing Way to Deal with Change in Your Work and in Your Life |
| 21:06.03 | peterS | helix: you know, one of those books whose author includes ", PhD" on the cover |
| 21:06.08 | Seb | heh |
| 21:06.13 | leira | it seems it firefox has something wrong with gconf-2 when startup? |
| 21:06.20 | peterS | Ungy: I dunno, I'm in central US |
| 21:06.23 | helix | peterS: I thought that was the reason for getting a phd |
| 21:06.23 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: but i turned it off to get IPs for staff! :) |
| 21:06.37 | peterS | helix: if you're in the business of writing self-help books, that's probably the main reason, yeah |
| 21:06.47 | Ungy | what does +E do? |
| 21:06.58 | helix | peterS: oh, it seems this one was written be an MD |
| 21:07.01 | abrotman | Ungy: people who aren't registered can't msg you |
| 21:07.02 | nvz | turns off external messages from non identified users |
| 21:07.06 | peterS | Ungy: refuses private messages from people who aren't identified with nickserv |
| 21:07.09 | peterS | helix: oh, my mistake |
| 21:07.14 | peterS | I actually do not have a copy (: |
| 21:07.22 | abrotman | at least it wasn't a DO |
| 21:07.24 | Ungy | sweet thanks I will add that |
| 21:07.26 | helix | Fish! A Remarkable Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results |
| 21:07.33 | helix | they did that at my former workplace |
| 21:07.38 | peterS | oh dear |
| 21:07.45 | peterS | not that I'm opposed to fish, particularly |
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| 21:08.14 | leira | and i edited my source.list, then aptitude always tell me about sign problem, i am using sid |
| 21:08.41 | nvz | wtf is all this talk about self help? if you could do it yourself, you don't need help. |
| 21:08.41 | beowu1f | wheres the best technical data page to go and find out the difference [pro's & cons] between thing like P4 & centrino's??? |
| 21:08.59 | nvz | thats just called help |
| 21:09.07 | abrotman | beowu1f: centrino is a chipset .. P4 is a processor |
| 21:09.09 | peterS | nvz: well, it's help from a book rather than from a person |
| 21:09.09 | streuner | nvz: haha, they wrote books about to earn money :-) |
| 21:09.21 | peterS | nvz: the real helping is the money produced for the author |
| 21:09.21 | abrotman | well centrino is more than achipset .. but in a rough sense .. that's what it is |
| 21:09.23 | nvz | peterS: then its a help book |
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| 21:09.31 | beowu1f | abrotman pentium-M then |
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| 21:09.45 | abrotman | beowu1f: same thing .. P-M is a CPU .. Centrino is a chipset/set of parts |
| 21:09.51 | nvz | peterS: there is no such thing as a self help book. self help is like an oxymoron |
| 21:09.55 | wols_ | abrotman: no. centrino is a package consisting of CPU, chipset and wlan chipset |
| 21:09.58 | abrotman | beowu1f: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino |
| 21:10.05 | Ungy | beowu1f, you mean pentium 4m celeron-m and Pentium 4 and Celeron processors? |
| 21:10.07 | peterS | nvz: help yourself to some beer |
| 21:10.16 | abrotman | wols_: yes .. i said it was more than a chipset .. i was being vague .. but i didn't want to get to technical :) |
| 21:10.17 | Gnea | hrm |
| 21:10.35 | nvz | peterS: I dont need to, I can get it myself |
| 21:10.36 | abrotman | too technical |
| 21:10.38 | wols_ | abrotman: this is #debian, where else can you get more technical? |
| 21:10.40 | helix | the consequence of pretending change won't happen is always the same: The cheese runs out. |
| 21:10.43 | helix | oook |
| 21:10.46 | Gnea | my idiot-detector is pinging |
| 21:10.50 | green_earz | obscuresoul: there is a examlpe in the mdadm howto : http://alioth.debian.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30283&release_id=288 |
| 21:11.00 | abrotman | wols_: well .. it's not #hardware .. which is where beowu1f should be asking |
| 21:11.07 | Gnea | helix: brutal |
| 21:11.12 | green_earz | obscuresoul: long way round but ? |
| 21:11.15 | nvz | Gnea: you shouldnt sit so close to it |
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| 21:11.31 | nvz | ;) |
| 21:11.39 | Gnea | nvz: i know, it's been an ongoing problem since birth ;) |
| 21:11.40 | beowu1f | p-M i know is a CPU.. P4 chip i know is a CPU... want to learn more about the technowlogy and why intel have gone for P-M |
| 21:11.45 | beowu1f | abrotman |
| 21:11.52 | abrotman | beowu1f |
| 21:11.59 | beowu1f | hehe |
| 21:12.17 | abrotman | beowu1f: so you want to know the differences between P4 and P-M ? |
| 21:12.21 | Gathond | beowu1f: because the P4 arkitekture backfired on them :) |
| 21:12.21 | wols_ | beowu1f: the P-M is a low power, brainiac, low latency CPU and the P4 is a high latency, speeddemon and insane power CPU |
| 21:12.25 | wols_ | that's about it |
| 21:12.28 | Ungy | beowu1f, power consumption |
| 21:12.33 | nvz | I need a script for irssi that makes that funny scooby doo laugh everytime someone says hehe |
| 21:12.36 | Gnea | beowu1f: they use the P-M in mobile units more often |
| 21:12.43 | wols_ | if you buy a notebook: P-M. if you buy a desktop: Athlon64. the end |
| 21:12.48 | abrotman | beowu1f: many many wonderful sites on the internet will discuss the differences |
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| 21:13.19 | Ungy | wols_ Agree with the notebook but sorry I won't buy Athlon64 |
| 21:13.26 | abrotman | why not? |
| 21:13.27 | Gnea | wols_: try explaining that to my boss. i have to support his amd64 laptop - it's a really nice laptop though |
| 21:13.38 | Ungy | beowu1f, try http://www.tomshardware.com |
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| 21:14.02 | wols_ | Gnea: I'm a diehard amd user as they come, but for lappies they usually are shit, and the P-M is an excellent CPU for that |
| 21:14.05 | Ungy | abrotman I have had more then one bad experience wtih AMD processors |
| 21:14.07 | beowu1f | ungy.. thats the site i was trying to remember.. thanks |
| 21:14.13 | wols_ | so: serves you right that you bought a amd notebook |
| 21:14.24 | ohad | how do i check if tfpd is running? i tried to ps aux | grep tftpd |
| 21:14.27 | ohad | i got nothing |
| 21:14.34 | abrotman | Ungy: oddly .. i've had more than one bad experience with intel stuff .. and Sun stuff .. and IBM .. shit happens |
| 21:14.36 | wols_ | Ungy: currently it's one gazillion times better than P4. no competition there |
| 21:14.46 | ohad | i have installed it and set it inet.conf |
| 21:14.49 | obscuresoul | green_earz, thank you! what you mean with "long way round but?"? |
| 21:14.49 | Gnea | wols_: agreed. i have a p-m at home now and it rips (that's what i got that e17 script going on) |
| 21:14.53 | abrotman | beowu1f: or anandtech.com |
| 21:15.20 | Gnea | wols_: but i'd like to be able to bring debian up to speed on this laptop biz cuz gentoo currently has that market cornered |
| 21:15.24 | Ungy | abrotman I tried McDonalds twice and they failed both times I now have banned them from places I will eat |
| 21:15.32 | beowu1f | abrotman thanks, will take a look there too |
| 21:15.41 | abrotman | Ungy: sad .. the chicken deluxe are quite good :) |
| 21:15.51 | Gnea | Ungy: heh, i banned mcd's years ago |
| 21:15.51 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: they love us? |
| 21:16.00 | dondelelcaro | 0x03 30 2C 34 20 is really useful |
| 21:16.00 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: mz header in the file? |
| 21:16.13 | Gnea | Ungy: unless orange juice is involved, that's a different story |
| 21:16.15 | Ungy | wols_ I dunno about that I have seen the figures AMD is taking a shit load o fshortcuts to get performance if I want a high end system I woudl go with Opteron |
| 21:16.21 | wols_ | ohhh.. and I thought it would give WINE something to do :) |
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| 21:16.46 | wols_ | Ungy: opteron = athlon64 with registered RAM mem controller |
| 21:17.05 | wols_ | Ungy: a athlon64 is just an athlonxp with memory controller and increased register size. that's basically all |
| 21:17.18 | Ungy | I dunno I won't touch Nvidia either there 2D quality has been substandard for years(until recently) so I won't touch them either |
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| 21:17.51 | wols_ | Ungy: nvidia chipsets don't have graphicards included |
| 21:17.56 | Gnea | Ungy: you're smoking crack, nvidia has excellent support. who would you pick over that? |
| 21:18.05 | wols_ | and the only other choice is basically ati. scylla and charybdis there... especially under linux |
| 21:18.16 | Ungy | Gnea I use ATI thanks |
| 21:18.20 | abrotman | Gnea: intel |
| 21:18.24 | streuner | dpkg, nforce |
| 21:18.24 | dpkg | from memory, nforce is a chipset made by nvidia. It is not (properly) supported in kernels older than 2.4.22. if you didn't know this and bought your hardware anyway, boo on you. |
| 21:18.29 | wols_ | also, since the GF4 series their picture quality WAY improved |
| 21:18.29 | abrotman | !nvsound |
| 21:18.29 | dpkg | nvsound is probably nvidia's closed-source OSS module. Highly unstable, do not bother using this with nforce1, 3, 4, or cheap nforce2 boards, i810_audio or snd-intel8x0 work fine. However, on some nforce2 boards with "SoundStorm", you may wish to use it (emu10k1-style hardware mixing, and Dolby Digital encoding) |
| 21:18.57 | Gnea | Ungy: utter crap. at least nvidia has the common sense to support their chipset in one driver. but whatever you feel you need to bastardise is fine. |
| 21:19.06 | wols_ | nice. didn't know they finally supported that on soundstorm |
| 21:19.14 | wols_ | but ac97 was usually enough for me |
| 21:19.24 | Gnea | abrotman: intel's alright for baseline |
| 21:19.42 | wols_ | Gnea: he's talking about apples and oranges. we were talking about chipsets, he about graphics chips |
| 21:19.44 | ohad | any ideas how to setup tftpd? any docs out there? |
| 21:19.44 | abrotman | Gnea: for compatibility .. works just fine :) |
| 21:19.48 | abrotman | i'm not |
| 21:19.50 | abrotman | i'm talking chipset |
| 21:19.51 | nvz | can you get 3d accell with those i810 onboard cards? |
| 21:19.52 | Ungy | Gnea hey at least ATI doesn't pay so called industry experts to give them good ratings and down play their faults |
| 21:20.04 | Gnea | wols_: yes, i'm talking graphics too. i know the difference. :) |
| 21:20.31 | abrotman | nvz: i have it |
| 21:20.33 | wols_ | ohad: to check if your tftpd is running: check /etc/services for the tftp port and the use netstat -anp to check if something is listening there |
| 21:20.35 | abrotman | nvz: in my laptop |
| 21:20.38 | Gnea | Ungy: i don't even pay attention to that, i go by real user performance. |
| 21:20.56 | nvz | abrotman: does it require a special kernel driver? |
| 21:21.05 | wols_ | Gnea: well, chipsets certainly have no image quality. all integrated chipsets were always available gfx unintegrated too |
| 21:21.14 | abrotman | nvz: agp .. yes .. like everything else afaik .. but it's in kernel .. no patches needed |
| 21:21.24 | wols_ | Ungy: ati cheated too... |
| 21:21.39 | Ungy | Gnea yeah well they bullshitted their way to the death of the greatest graphics company ever and for that they shoudl be fucking raped and murdered |
| 21:21.41 | Gnea | wols_: right, they're there just so there will be a screen that won't plop out |
| 21:22.14 | nvz | abrotman: yeah but it doesnt require anything but agp support? I have all that and using i810 X driver on my friend's PIII system and he gets like no 3d cant even play foobillard |
| 21:22.38 | abrotman | nvz: uhm .. did you enable the DRI section ? .. ask me when i get home .. i can give you more details |
| 21:22.42 | Gnea | Ungy: oh please, ATI is just as bad if not worse. go back and do your homework before trying to downplay people who actually do their job instead of sitting around whining about it like a 2 year old. |
| 21:23.10 | abrotman | ati and amd .. the one true path |
| 21:23.42 | drac | ati and amd is safe bet.. for performance and open source.. |
| 21:23.42 | nvz | heh |
| 21:23.50 | Gnea | Ungy: i've had very good luck with every nvidia-based graphic card i've ever owned. sometimes they die, but hardware does that, just like hard drives and other equipment |
| 21:23.58 | Seb | damn, #3d-flame is fun |
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| 21:24.40 | Ungy | Gnea oh please what I have done my homework i know where things stand to this day but I also hae my experiences to go upon if you fool me once your bad fool me twice my bad I won't be fooled a thrid time |
| 21:25.02 | drac | nvz ;) |
| 21:25.10 | nvz | Ungy: you're almost as bad with that saying as GWB |
| 21:25.21 | Seb | *almost* |
| 21:25.34 | wols_ | Gnea: wrong, the only thing that should be permitted to die on a videocard is the fan. all else has to work for eternity basically |
| 21:25.42 | Ungy | seriously though I think Cyrix has a better track record then AMD |
| 21:25.43 | ohad | wols_, ok. i've done that. there was on tftp and not tftpd in /etc/services |
| 21:25.49 | Gnea | everytime i try to help someone with their ATI shit, i find i have to choose between one of a few drivers, and even then things such as dual-head doesn't work right, having to pass silly kernel arguments just to initialize some other half of a card that errors everytime then trying to find the answer on google or yahoo doesn't bring back anything useful. sorry, nvidia won it in the support department. next. |
| 21:25.54 | ohad | wols_, suggestions? and how do i start tftpd? |
| 21:26.00 | Seb | speaking of which, bash quote: <@dawoker> my manager dropped by and told me to stop using things like "my president is an assclown" in string testing for some of our code. |
| 21:26.09 | ohad | wols_, should i restart inetd? |
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| 21:26.24 | fwtest | anyone knows where firefox save java applet class? |
| 21:26.25 | wols_ | ohad: either via /etc/init.d/ or it's in /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 21:26.33 | Ungy | Seb hahaha |
| 21:26.39 | Gnea | Ungy: oh, so you're talking how well they did in-house instead of real-world numbers? |
| 21:26.39 | drac | Gnea: bshit, i'm running mergedfb dualhead on radeon oss-drivers perfectly as we speak ;) |
| 21:26.54 | nvz | I think assclown is taking it easy on him |
| 21:26.55 | Gnea | drac: mergedfb? never heard of it. |
| 21:27.02 | wols_ | drac: what radeon card? |
| 21:27.11 | nvz | its definatly an understatement |
| 21:27.13 | Seb | nvz: right, but then it's production code too, how far can one go ? ;) |
| 21:27.24 | drac | Gnea: x.org featuring.. new system to replace old xinerama that didn't do 3d at same time |
| 21:27.29 | drac | wols_: 9200pro |
| 21:27.45 | drac | dualhead accel on both heads <3 |
| 21:27.56 | drac | err, 3d accel even |
| 21:28.05 | wols_ | drac: afaik there are no drivers for recent cards. any x*** drivers out there which are Free? |
| 21:28.18 | nvz | he's more like a spot of grease under the assclown car |
| 21:28.22 | Gnea | drac: it's about time, i was trying to get it to run on xfree86 - nvidia has worked just fine on both. |
| 21:28.25 | ohad | wols_, tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /svr/tftp /tftpboot in the /etc/inet.conf? |
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| 21:28.36 | drac | wols_: r300_dri.so is in xorg 6.9rc0/7.0rc0/cvs.. and supports all radeons.. ie. experimental DRI |
| 21:28.37 | nvz | or rust deposits floating therein |
| 21:28.42 | Ungy | Gnea no I am talking actual real-world numbers I used to be a hardware tester back in the day for a gaming company and AMD and NVIDIA may have their crap together today but they sure as hell didn't back then |
| 21:28.46 | jefe486 | can someone recommend forum software for a debian server responsible for a LUG? |
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| 21:29.25 | Gnea | Ungy: that's cool, but you know how it is, all companies have their own quirks to work out |
| 21:29.26 | Ungy | LUG? |
| 21:29.30 | wols_ | ohad: yes, it's started via inetd then |
| 21:29.35 | Seb | Linux User Group |
| 21:29.37 | Gnea | Linux User Group |
| 21:29.39 | wols_ | so inetd will own the port |
| 21:29.43 | Seb | Seb 1 - 0 Gnea |
| 21:29.51 | Gnea | get over it |
| 21:30.02 | Gnea | :) |
| 21:30.04 | Seb | heh |
| 21:30.38 | Gnea | i didn't realize there was a piss contest, i already emptied my bladder a half hour ago |
| 21:31.04 | Seb | Gnea: nah, this is where you argue that you're farther away from your freenode server than I am ;) |
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| 21:31.22 | Shadowcat | sigh |
| 21:31.28 | Shadowcat | today must be lamer day |
| 21:31.41 | Gnea | Seb: uhm, and i should care about that because....? |
| 21:31.42 | Shadowcat | I just gave a guy who wanted to oc his answer |
| 21:31.47 | Shadowcat | which he didn't understand |
| 21:31.51 | Shadowcat | and he still wants to oc |
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| 21:32.11 | Seb | Gnea: nm man |
| 21:32.13 | nvz | Shadowcat: its IRC ffs. its just one of those things, you'll have to get over it |
| 21:32.17 | wols_ | Shadowcat: AMD/Intel will be happy to sell another CPU |
| 21:32.18 | Gnea | why do people discourage oc'ing? if someone's done the research then go for it |
| 21:32.25 | nvz | in the words of Avril Lavigne |
| 21:32.31 | Ungy | Shadowcat, well sometimes you just need to literally drill into their head and perform the labotomy |
| 21:32.34 | Seb | nvz: :D |
| 21:32.40 | wols_ | Gnea: the trouble starts when fuckwits like the one Shadowcat described want to do it |
| 21:32.57 | Shadowcat | Gnea: I gave him the answer he wanted |
| 21:33.00 | Shadowcat | and he didn't understand it |
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| 21:33.20 | Shadowcat | he couldn't even understand what a locked multiplier was |
| 21:33.25 | Gnea | wols_: look at it this way: if they're such a fuckwit, then get them to oc and if it burns out you won't have to worry about them bothering yo uanymore :) |
| 21:33.38 | Shadowcat | Gnea: but in the mean time he'll be a channel pain |
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| 21:33.56 | Ungy | Shadowcat, they want the overclock button they can press kinda like a NOS shot on a car |
| 21:34.06 | Shadowcat | hah |
| 21:34.11 | Shadowcat | if it only were that easy |
| 21:34.12 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 21:34.12 | wols_ | Gnea: wrong. they will come back and whine forever how you destroyed their hardware |
| 21:34.14 | nvz | actually she said "It's too bad I'm not sad, it's casting over. It's just one of those things, you'll have to get over it" |
| 21:34.23 | wols_ | real idiots then want you to pay them for the replacement |
| 21:34.33 | Gnea | wols_: i'll just tell 'em to fuck off, they destroyed it, not me. |
| 21:34.38 | Shadowcat | heh |
| 21:34.45 | wols_ | Ungy: for the OC button they should buy a 486. mine had a "TURBO" button |
| 21:34.47 | Ungy | Shadowcat, seriously the first tiem someone asked me to overclock their Celeron 300 back in the day they asked me what button to push to get it to go faster |
| 21:35.00 | Ungy | wols_ I had the turbo LED |
| 21:35.01 | Shadowcat | Ungy: turbo button |
| 21:35.02 | Shadowcat | ;) |
| 21:35.42 | Gnea | Ungy: oh, people are great like that, it's even funnier when geeks like us think "the turbo button" ;) of course, they mean something completely different but how often do we see that? |
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| 21:36.09 | Ungy | anyways after I explained it to them and got it working stable at 544 for them they came back like a month later sayign it stopped working they said it was too load so removed a few fans to quiet it down ;-) |
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| 21:36.13 | elburito | hey! i got the debian sarge ppc iso, but i cant seem to install the desktop system? if i run base-config, and select desktop system, it says "there is a problem" (not saying anything specific).. but i can see the console flashing before the error is shown, it seems to not have all the packets it depends on? i have added both my CD + an http apt source to my repository, still wont work.. any suggestions? |
| 21:36.23 | nvz | wols_: I probably still got 20 or more Zenith Data Systems 8086/88's at the electronic hospital with turbo buttons on them |
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| 21:36.48 | nvz | wols_: scored them for free off WVU |
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| 21:36.50 | wols_ | elburito: maybe no wroking network right now? |
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| 21:37.05 | wols_ | nvz: they are not "free". you will have to pay for disposal |
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| 21:37.13 | wols_ | and that's WAY more than what they're worth |
| 21:37.16 | elburito | wols_: im chatting through the debian box :) |
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| 21:37.40 | wols_ | elburito: then skip that silly thing and just install everything via "apt-get install <package>" |
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| 21:37.50 | nvz | wols_: heh, no I just hand them off to the forse and he puts them in his infermory at the electronic hospital |
| 21:37.52 | wols_ | best way and it gives you error messages. whoohoo! |
| 21:38.08 | elburito | wols_: okay, is there an apt package for a desktop system then? |
| 21:38.15 | drew | dondelelcaro, what options do I set for a fat32 partition? I want the same as my ntfs, but I want to be able to write to it |
| 21:38.25 | dondelelcaro | drew: same options. |
| 21:38.25 | wols_ | elburito: what do you want? gnome or kde? |
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| 21:38.26 | Ungy | elburito apt-get install x-window-system-base I think |
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| 21:38.35 | elburito | wols_ KDE |
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| 21:38.45 | wols_ | Ungy: yes, but that will give him twm... :P |
| 21:38.45 | nvz | only time I see the Forse is if I hunt him down. he's incredibly hard to get hold of. its like trying to contact someone in the witness protection program |
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| 21:39.05 | Ungy | wols_ step by step ;-) |
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| 21:39.07 | drew | dondelelcaro, and for fstype, is it fat32 or vfat? |
| 21:39.16 | wols_ | "apt-get install x-window-system kde" then |
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| 21:39.31 | streuner | oh, party begins... |
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| 21:39.52 | smo_ | hi i have a webcam looks like a logitech quickcam express and lsusb show me logitech too now wen i compile the module for it (no prob) it s not working, no webcam detected.... |
| 21:40.03 | elburito | apt doesnt know x-window-system |
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| 21:40.09 | drew | dondelelcaro, and for fstype, is it fat32 or vfat? |
| 21:40.20 | wols_ | elburito: "apt-cache search x-window" |
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| 21:40.26 | PeterB | Here we go again... |
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| 21:40.43 | streuner | dondelelcaro: i got a similar message like the one 20 min. ago... |
| 21:40.44 | wols_ | PeterB: related to peterS ? |
| 21:40.47 | dondelelcaro | drew: vfat; see the mount manpage |
| 21:40.55 | drew | ok |
| 21:41.02 | peterS | wols_: I've never met PeterB or petemc |
| 21:41.04 | dondelelcaro | streuner: from fredyx? |
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| 21:41.10 | streuner | wwaker |
| 21:41.16 | PeterB | wols_: Apart from the name, not really. |
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| 21:41.35 | Gnea | now if i could only find the script that handles the ethernet driver autodetection sequence at install-time.... |
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| 21:41.53 | wols_ | Gulsen^: lspci is your friend |
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| 21:41.56 | drew | dondelelcaro, when it tells me to specify a 32 bit fat, why does it say use with caution? |
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| 21:42.03 | wols_ | and nick complete obviously isn't mine |
| 21:42.09 | nvz | I am a bonified geek I live in a town called Leetsdale, my mentors name is Forse, and I got more computers than I have clothes |
| 21:42.13 | elburito | it might be because im using PowerPC and some of the packages are not available? anyone know of a good powerPC apt source_? |
| 21:42.15 | politik | hm, anyone else getting privmsg spam? |
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| 21:42.24 | smo_ | me |
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| 21:42.25 | drew | politik, I am too |
| 21:42.28 | streuner | politik: yes |
| 21:42.28 | dondelelcaro | drew: you shouldn't need to do that. |
| 21:42.33 | drew | okay |
| 21:42.35 | wols_ | politik: nope. but a spambot has MUCH to do in debian to reach all of us |
| 21:42.36 | dondelelcaro | if you're getting spam, umode +E |
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| 21:42.37 | bn` | me... but with no text... lol |
| 21:42.40 | nvz | my credentials are legit |
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| 21:42.43 | jaysko | Trying to install Debian Sarge on IBM ThinkCentre Desktop; NIC not supported though there is a GPL Broadcom driver; need kernel source to compile driver; kernel source not on binary download CDs and can't use Netinst CD because no NIC. Suggestions? |
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| 21:43.00 | websdale | smo_:you probably need the quickcam module installed |
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| 21:43.10 | smo_ | i made it |
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| 21:43.20 | stew | jaysko: the tg3 driver? |
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| 21:43.28 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> SPAMBOTS GOT YOU DOWN? /umode +E | GETTING DEBIAN? /msg dpkg install debian | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | BTS: /msg dpkg bts | gcc/g++ 4.0 w/ new ABI in sid; beware breakage! | X.org is in sid | sid's libssl0.9.7 broken: /msg dpkg broken ssl | USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Java -> /msg dpkg java | kde 3.4 -> /msg dpkg kde3.4 | NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 21:43.31 | smo_ | its loaded but still no images |
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| 21:43.56 | wols_ | elburito: your sources.list might be crap or you havn't run apt-get update |
| 21:44.03 | stew | jaysko: if you can build a kernel that loads your nic, you can build a custom d-i to install with, /msg dpkg custom d-i |
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| 21:44.10 | wols_ | cause x-window-system is avaible in all debian platforms: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/x-window-system |
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| 21:44.18 | websdale | smo_:have you loaded videodev & usbcore as well |
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| 21:45.06 | elburito | it says it cannot install kdegraphics, because "kde: Depends: kdegraphics but it is not going to be installed." E: Broken package |
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| 21:45.23 | jaysko | stew: no, not tg3. Looking up spec... Having trouble building kernel -- should I burn vanilla kernel sources to CD or download Debian kernel-source package from ??? and burn to CD? |
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| 21:46.10 | Daffy-PKF | hey! what's that bot who send plenty of messages in private with different nicks? |
| 21:46.22 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: /topic |
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| 21:46.51 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> ho i haven't seen, thanks |
| 21:47.00 | wols_ | elburito: sarge? |
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| 21:47.24 | elburito | wols_: yes.. thats what it said, "v3.1" is printed at the login |
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| 21:47.39 | elburito | wols_: also says welcome to sarge when i run the installer |
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| 21:47.55 | benluo | i cann't find postgresql8 for sarge in google, who can tell me a source? |
| 21:48.09 | elburito | wols_: the x-window-system can be installed, but KDE will not work |
| 21:48.11 | wols_ | elburito: choose another mirror with apt-setup then I guess |
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| 21:48.31 | jaysko | stew: it's an Broadcom BCM570x NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet |
| 21:48.32 | wols_ | elburito: apt-get isntall kde-base then. or whatever they name the kde-base them now |
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| 21:48.42 | elburito | wols_: i have added like 5 sites now, including the US ftp.debian.org, a few from europe, and one from japan |
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| 21:48.54 | wols_ | jaysko: good luck, you will need it. Linux and Broadcom don't mix |
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| 21:49.00 | drew | dondelelcaro, I am not getting sound when I play music and such, do you know how I can fix this? |
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| 21:49.32 | streuner | drew: what kernel do you have? |
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| 21:49.58 | jaysko | wols_: Why do you say linux and broadcom don't mix? Broadcom makes available GPL driver for their hardware. Is driver NFG? |
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| 21:50.14 | drew | streuner, I think I have the 386 |
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| 21:50.27 | streuner | drew: cat /proc/version |
| 21:50.41 | wols_ | jaysko: cause very very often they don't. and don#t give out specs either. but I guess only for their wireless crap |
| 21:50.51 | wols_ | I just stay clear of broadcom due to they crap linux support,t hats all |
| 21:50.52 | drew | Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 |
| 21:50.57 | websdale | smo_:I'd recommend using gqcam to display the video - I had good results |
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| 21:51.29 | streuner | drew: ok, what does 'lspci -v | grep -i audio' say? |
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| 21:52.07 | drew | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) |
| 21:52.08 | elburito | wols_: if i google that error message, i see a lot of pages talking about kde not being built for the "unstable" dist yet, but i was under the impression that sarge is stable, right? or did I get the wrong iso? |
| 21:52.26 | wols_ | elburito: yes sarge is stable |
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| 21:52.41 | elburito | and by stable, that means that all packages are available for all platforms? |
| 21:52.42 | wols_ | which makes me think you have a dodgy debian mirror |
| 21:52.43 | Daffy-PKF | does someone have a good url about configuring bind 9? i read the manpage but i need something more understandable... |
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| 21:52.57 | jaysko | So in the situation where I have a Debian install with a non-working NIC, and I could get it going (supposedly) if I compile the NIC driver against my kernel sources -- what's the recommended way of proceding? I'm trying to compile sources from kernel.org right now; apt-get install libncurses5-dev isn't working (not found on CDs). |
| 21:53.04 | wols_ | elburito: more or less.it certainly means you don't get stupid errors like that |
| 21:53.07 | streuner | drew: try modprobe i810_audio |
| 21:53.16 | jaysko | And without libncruses5-dev, I've got no make menuconfig. |
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| 21:54.16 | Gnea | jaysko: so you're stuck in windows? |
| 21:54.16 | jdhutchin1 | jaysko, you could download the package by hand and put it on a flash drive or something like that |
| 21:54.16 | drew | streuner, okay, now what? |
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| 21:54.37 | elburito | im using "ftp.debian.org stable main" and "security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib" .. thats the only two sources i have in my sources.list |
| 21:54.37 | streuner | drew: so it says ok? |
| 21:54.37 | jaysko | Gnea -- no, my machine with a working NIC is an ibook. Not quite desperate enough to fire up windows. |
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| 21:54.41 | lom | Would anyone know why I'm being spammed on irc? I've been using xchat for years, and I just installed debian on a new laptop, launch xchat, and I've got 5 dialog windows open with people I don't konw |
| 21:54.41 | lom | *know |
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| 21:54.55 | lom | I've never had anything like this happen before |
| 21:54.58 | jdhutchin1 | yeah, there seem to be some k1ddies on freenode today |
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| 21:55.10 | lom | jdhutchin1, ok, so it's not just me :) |
| 21:55.11 | jaysko | jdhutchin1: Yes, could burn to CD and sneakernet -- but I'm unclear on where I can download Debian packages from without using an apt-get repository. Is there another way? |
| 21:55.16 | beardy | What the fuck.. think I was targeted of some sort of /msg attack.. |
| 21:55.30 | lom | beardy, join the club |
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| 21:55.36 | drew | streuner, it didn't do anything special, it just executed the command successfully |
| 21:55.37 | jdhutchin1 | you can download them from the apt-get repository by hand |
| 21:55.41 | jdhutchin1 | packages.debian.org |
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| 21:55.47 | Ungy | hahaha I have no messages except for tarzeau from last night |
| 21:55.50 | streuner | drew: logout and back in, and run 'adduser <user> audio before |
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| 21:57.10 | drew | streuner, I was already a member of audio, so just logout and back in and it should work? |
| 21:57.25 | streuner | drew: yes |
| 21:57.25 | jdhutchin1 | drew, you might have to fully log off your x session though |
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| 21:57.35 | drew | as in, fully reboot? |
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| 21:57.51 | jaysko | jdhutchin1: Thanks -- didn't realize that was possible. Will try that. Assuming the syntax for using apt-get to install a deb file rather than from a repository or CD isn't that complex... |
| 21:57.54 | Ungy | drew well you could stop x and restart it |
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| 21:58.02 | streuner | drew: echo 'i810_audio' >> /etc/modules |
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| 21:58.04 | drew | Ungy, okay |
| 21:58.05 | jdhutchin1 | jaysko, you use dpkg to install the deb file (dpkg -i file.deb) |
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| 21:58.22 | jaysko | thanks much jdhutchin1! |
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| 21:58.34 | drew | streuner, okay, that command executed |
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| 22:00.59 | meneg | a fast way to list debs of unstable ive installed on stable? |
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| 22:01.13 | streuner | meneg: dpkg -l |
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| 22:01.27 | streuner | meneg: oh |
| 22:01.29 | meneg | root@my:/home/fs# dpkg -l|grep unstable |
| 22:01.29 | meneg | root@my:/home/fs# |
| 22:01.31 | meneg | :p |
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| 22:02.03 | streuner | meneg: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 22:02.18 | meneg | 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
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| 22:03.07 | politik | is there a way to make sure packages that were installed purely to meet dependencies are removed when the dependent package is removed? |
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| 22:03.19 | politik | or I should say, when the last dependent package is removed |
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| 22:03.26 | dondelelcaro | politik: use aptitude or deborpahn or debfoster which will remove them automatically. |
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| 22:03.49 | politik | dondelelcaro: any recommendations between those 3? |
| 22:04.10 | dondelelcaro | politik: I personally just use aptitude. |
| 22:04.11 | Ries | apt-get install php4-mcrypt results in : php4-mcrypt: Depends: phpapi-20020918 on Debian testing, what can I do to force it to install? |
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| 22:04.35 | dondelelcaro | !depends php4-mcrypt etch |
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| 22:04.58 | dpkg | php4-mcrypt: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2), libmcrypt4, phpapi-20020918, debconf |
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| 22:04.58 | flipmcf | do the .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives need to be kept around? looking to clean up some disk space here. |
| 22:04.59 | agrelio | Please, I've installed Debian in the first partition, and I've got Windows XP in another partition. Grub won't boot Windows... What can I do? |
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| 22:05.10 | dondelelcaro | !+provides libapache-mod-php4 etch |
| 22:05.13 | politik | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 22:05.16 | dondelelcaro | flipmcf: use apt-get autoclean; or similar. |
| 22:05.17 | dpkg | libapache-mod-php4: php4-xml, phpapi-20020918 |
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| 22:05.23 | flipmcf | dondelelcaro, gracias |
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| 22:05.37 | Ries | dondelelcaro: ok, I'll try |
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| 22:05.46 | dondelelcaro | Ries: what exactly is the problem? the version in etch depends on the version of php4 that is in etch. |
| 22:06.06 | Ries | dondelelcaro: I receive that message from apt |
| 22:06.23 | Ries | dondelelcaro: also: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 22:06.26 | bloom | !amd64 |
| 22:06.26 | dondelelcaro | Ries: give us the full output of the apt-get run, and the ouptut of apt-cache policy; |
| 22:06.27 | dpkg | hmm... amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch (Sarge + 1), or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq |
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| 22:06.31 | dondelelcaro | Ries: use the paster bot to do so. |
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| 22:06.43 | stew | dondelelcaro: what does the '+' do in !+provides foo? |
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| 22:06.57 | masoft | is there anyway to come from SID to Sarge ? |
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| 22:07.04 | Ries | dondelelcaro: the paster bot?!?!? |
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| 22:07.24 | meneg | the channel has spam bots btw |
| 22:07.24 | dondelelcaro | !tell Ries -about paster |
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| 22:07.30 | dondelelcaro | meneg: /topic |
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| 22:07.42 | dondelelcaro | stew: forces it to output to the channel |
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| 22:07.55 | drew | streuner, I still don't get sound when I play music |
| 22:08.09 | meneg | hahah |
| 22:08.16 | streuner | drew: aumix |
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| 22:08.42 | Ries | [OT] is there a prob with freenode? people sending me PV! |
| 22:08.50 | dondelelcaro | Ries: /topic |
| 22:08.52 | streuner | Ries: /topic |
| 22:08.53 | drew | streuner ok |
| 22:08.57 | meneg | Ries: they like us! |
| 22:09.03 | stew | dondelelcaro: like when it might /msg with "so such package" that will go to channel instead? |
| 22:09.04 | masoft | no one know a way for Convert a Debian SID to a Debian Sarge ? |
| 22:09.07 | Ries | :D |
| 22:09.15 | streuner | dpkg, downgrade |
| 22:09.15 | dpkg | i heard downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 22:09.16 | dondelelcaro | stew: yeah |
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| 22:09.29 | Ries | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/581 |
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| 22:09.52 | meneg | sid is so broken at the moment, a fresh stable installation is so nice at the moment |
| 22:09.55 | dondelelcaro | Ries: and the apt-cache policy; output? |
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| 22:10.20 | masoft | meneg, my just problem about SID is to install VMWare |
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| 22:10.46 | drew | streuner, still no sound |
| 22:10.46 | meneg | bah, sid is what it should be at the moment: unstable |
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| 22:10.57 | dondelelcaro | it's actually not that broken right now... you can still run it no problem. |
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| 22:11.03 | Ries | dondelelcaro: forgot already, here it is: http://channels.debian.net/paste/582 |
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| 22:11.11 | streuner | drew: what DE do you use? |
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| 22:11.20 | drew | streuner, DE? |
| 22:11.21 | smo_ | how can i know the device name of my usb hard drive to mount it ( now it say /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device and i can see the drive with lsusb) |
| 22:11.24 | FieldySnuts | I am getting a TON of onjoin messages |
| 22:11.25 | streuner | drew: KDE? |
| 22:11.30 | FieldySnuts | not sure if they're based here yet brb |
| 22:11.30 | drew | streuner, yes |
| 22:11.30 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: /topic |
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| 22:11.38 | meneg | sid served me well for a couple of years, but in the current state it is, im better off with stable |
| 22:11.41 | streuner | drew: disable ARTS |
| 22:11.49 | FieldySnuts | odd. i thought I had +E set when i connect. |
| 22:11.52 | drew | streuner, I do that how? |
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| 22:12.03 | streuner | drew: run 'kcontrol' |
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| 22:12.14 | masoft | meneg, how is Testing now ?! |
| 22:12.19 | drew | ok |
| 22:12.26 | dondelelcaro | Ries: ok, first things first, get rid of the stable lines in your sources.list; |
| 22:12.37 | Ries | dondelelcaro: I am on it... |
| 22:12.43 | dondelelcaro | Ries: then, install some package that provides phpapi; like libapache-mod-php4; or php4-cgi |
| 22:12.43 | meneg | masoft: dunno, any good? |
| 22:12.44 | drew | streuner, okay, next? |
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| 22:13.02 | streuner | drew: look for an option 'soundserver' or somesuch |
| 22:13.16 | Ries | dondelelcaro: ok... working on it to.. |
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| 22:13.57 | WcktKlwn | does anyone know where I can get a .deb package that has the updated orinoco drivers with monitor support? |
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| 22:14.25 | drew | streuner, sound system? |
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| 22:14.34 | streuner | drew: sounds ok to me |
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| 22:14.51 | drew | streuner, okay, next? |
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| 22:15.02 | streuner | drew: disable ARTS |
| 22:15.20 | streuner | drew: or soundsystem or whatever stands there |
| 22:15.20 | Ries | dondelelcaro: is there a URL where I can see which lines I need to have in sources.list for testing? |
| 22:15.22 | masoft | I'm get lot of Null Private Messages (Empty) here ! what's going on here ? |
| 22:15.35 | dondelelcaro | masoft: /topic |
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| 22:15.42 | elburito | how come debian sarge installs ipv6 by default? |
| 22:15.46 | politik | dondelelcaro: so, aptitude will automatically remove packages I don't need anymore. But since I just now started using Aptitude, how does it know which packages I chose to install, and which ones were dependencies |
| 22:15.54 | dondelelcaro | Ries: the first lines you have are all you need; the ones mentioning stable are unecessary. |
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| 22:16.03 | Ries | dondelelcaro: k |
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| 22:16.25 | dondelelcaro | politik: because you tell it to install packages; any other packages which were installed are marked as automatically installed. When they are no longer required, they are removed. |
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| 22:17.09 | politik | dondelelcaro: but before this I've been using dselect, so aptitude wouldn't know what I did before, right? |
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| 22:17.11 | dondelelcaro | politik: at first, you'll need to go through and mark the packages that you didn't specifically want installed as automatically installed; this can be done fairly rapidly by marking all libraries as automatically installed, and any application you don't recognize. |
| 22:17.31 | eeyore- | how come i'm getting messages (in IRC) every so often? |
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| 22:17.34 | dondelelcaro | politik: iirc, it should recognize the packages that you've selected using dselect |
| 22:17.38 | drew | streuner, I can't find arts |
| 22:17.41 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: spambot attack; /topic |
| 22:17.41 | streuner | eeyore-: /topic |
| 22:17.48 | bloom | who do I go for for freenode network help? |
| 22:17.48 | eeyore- | ah |
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| 22:17.57 | dondelelcaro | bloom: #freenode |
| 22:17.58 | eeyore- | i am +e already |
| 22:17.58 | streuner | drew: just disable soundsystem |
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| 22:18.04 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: +E |
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| 22:18.08 | eeyore- | big E |
| 22:18.10 | eeyore- | ah |
| 22:18.12 | politik | dondelelcaro: is there a way to see a list of all the packages it thinks I manually installed? |
| 22:18.17 | drew | streuner, okay |
| 22:18.22 | drew | streuner, now what? |
| 22:18.30 | dondelelcaro | politik: dpkg --get-selections; |
| 22:18.42 | streuner | drew: what do you use to play sounds? |
| 22:18.47 | streuner | drew: xmms? |
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| 22:18.59 | outlaw84 | While the system is booting I can se the console but after the system is done starting and XFree86 gets started I cant go back into console/terminal mode... If I do then the screen blanks out saying no signal and I can get the computer to wake up |
| 22:19.01 | elfspace | amarok |
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| 22:19.12 | drew | streuner, I tried noatun and the one called music player |
| 22:19.24 | streuner | drew: try mpg321 |
| 22:19.31 | drew | ok |
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| 22:19.42 | dondelelcaro | elburito: it supports it by default, primarily because there's no reason not to. |
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| 22:20.27 | drew | streuner, after I install it, what next? |
| 22:20.31 | Covener | outlaw84: tried cntrl-alt-sysrq + r ? |
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| 22:20.45 | streuner | drew: mpg321 some.mp3 ? |
| 22:20.53 | outlaw84 | Covener: sysrq? |
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| 22:21.16 | elburito | dondelelcaro, what is required for ipv6 to work? i guess the destination must be ipv6, but must also every node on the way to its destination be ipv6 aware? |
| 22:21.19 | Covener | outlaw84: sys request, maybe on top of 'print screen' |
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| 22:21.38 | emilio | hi everybody! Can I install woody on a iPentiumII-233 with 128MB from debian-installer?? |
| 22:21.38 | eeyore- | oh my god, the 2007 XK jaguar is fugly. ford really screwed the pooch this time |
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| 22:21.46 | elburito | dondelelcaro, also, do everyone have a ipv6 ip, like you get a ipv4 ip from your ISP? |
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| 22:21.54 | outlaw84 | Covener: never used that button before... |
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| 22:22.02 | drew | streuner, it isn't on my k menu, why is that? |
| 22:22.04 | outlaw84 | Covener: but I see it now |
| 22:22.17 | dondelelcaro | elburito: you'll often need to tunnel through ipv4 to an ipv6 node |
| 22:22.30 | dondelelcaro | elburito: as far as the second half, that really depends on what you're doing. |
| 22:22.34 | streuner | drew: mpg321 is a CLI app. |
| 22:22.35 | meneg | what deb provides wx-config? |
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| 22:22.52 | drew | streuner I see |
| 22:22.53 | dondelelcaro | !tell meneg -about search |
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| 22:22.59 | streuner | drew: you have to run it in a shell (xterm, gnome-terminal, aterm) |
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| 22:23.09 | elburito | what are the benefits of ipv6, except the extra adress space? if there are any... |
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| 22:23.28 | dondelelcaro | elburito: the address space is the primary reason. |
| 22:23.29 | meneg | try it with wx-config |
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| 22:23.41 | samuel | wtf? i turn around a second and 20 ppl messaged me nothing at all? someone has ALOT of spare time |
| 22:23.42 | dondelelcaro | !+find wx-config |
| 22:23.44 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 22:23.45 | dondelelcaro | samuel: /topic |
| 22:23.51 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'wx-config' (1): (/usr/share/apps/kdevappwizard/template-common/wx-configure.in) in kde/kdevelop3-data. |
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| 22:24.16 | drew | still no sound o_O |
| 22:24.17 | meneg | no |
| 22:24.18 | dondelelcaro | meneg: so as you can see, that's the only package that has anything called wx-config in Debian. |
| 22:24.36 | samuel | dondelelcaro, thanks! |
| 22:24.47 | aag | is there any utility like the up2date for fedora in debian? |
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| 22:24.53 | meneg | well basically what happens with thing is that is replaced in alternatives by another program at install time |
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| 22:25.01 | meneg | so it won't appear on deb files |
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| 22:25.06 | meneg | that's why I'm asking |
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| 22:25.13 | drew | streuner, when I try to reactivate sound system, it said this: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device or resource busy) |
| 22:25.17 | meneg | I've figured it out before but I have no idea what i did |
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| 22:26.02 | Ries | dondelelcaro: apt-get update fails now with this message: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz MD5Sum mismatch |
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| 22:26.05 | meneg | i.e. some script in a deb provides an alternative to wx-config only at install time |
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| 22:26.08 | smo_ | i have my webcam detected by lsusb >> ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. normally it s logitech quickcam express.... i tried the quickcam express module (ov511) but not working anyone know another module?? |
| 22:26.14 | streuner | drew: fuser -k /dev/dsp |
| 22:26.17 | dondelelcaro | Ries: switch to a different mirror |
| 22:26.18 | meneg | and can't figure out what that deb is |
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| 22:26.30 | dondelelcaro | meneg: if I were to guess, I'd say wx-common; there's only 10 wx-* packages. |
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| 22:26.58 | drew | Streuner: /dev/dsp: 1895 1910 |
| 22:27.09 | meneg | [6~it was difficult to find i remember, anyway, I'll try all those |
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| 22:27.47 | streuner | drew: ok |
| 22:27.57 | drew | streuner, now? |
| 22:28.05 | streuner | drew: mpg321 some.mp3 ? |
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| 22:29.22 | cappicard | wtf? |
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| 22:29.34 | streuner | cappicard: /topic |
| 22:29.43 | drew | streuner, does sound system have to be enabled? |
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| 22:29.57 | streuner | drew: nah, disabled |
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| 22:30.05 | drew | streuner, well, no sound |
| 22:30.09 | cappicard | I'm getting messaged by quite a few people leaving this channel. I think they are bots... |
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| 22:30.23 | eeyore- | cappicard: /umode +E, big-e |
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| 22:30.25 | Ries | cappicard: yes they are... |
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| 22:30.38 | johnga1t | anyone know what the ::ffff: in SSH_CLIENT="::ffff: <ip address> 49277 22" means? |
| 22:30.40 | abrotman | eeyore-: again? |
| 22:30.44 | johnga1t | (as environment variable) |
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| 22:30.49 | eeyore- | abrotman: hmm? |
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| 22:30.51 | drew | streuner, well, no sound |
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| 22:30.55 | johnga1t | (trying to get remote x session to work, no luck |
| 22:30.56 | cappicard | thank you |
| 22:30.56 | abrotman | eeyore-: the bots? |
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| 22:31.06 | eeyore- | abrotman: i suppose. i got lots of /msg a few minutes ago |
| 22:31.07 | cappicard | those imbeciles are ticking me off |
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| 22:31.16 | streuner | drew: so mpg321 plays and show you something? |
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| 22:31.28 | abrotman | eeyore-: i gues so |
| 22:31.30 | Topslakr | cappicard /umode +E |
| 22:31.34 | cappicard | just did |
| 22:31.37 | Oryn | anyone know a way to force an unmount? |
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| 22:36.11 | SimonRaven | that and the fucking mydoom infected winbloze boxen, makes for an entertaining evening |
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| 22:36.25 | mehul | I would like to find all the installed packages that depend on apache2 on my system. How can I do that ? |
| 22:36.26 | antgel_ | so is it something affecting people's irc clients like a worm? if not, how does it coordinate? |
| 22:36.33 | drew | streuner, yet again, no sound |
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| 22:36.44 | jefe486 | wow... this is crazy actually :S |
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| 22:36.54 | jefe486 | How do I find out if my windows box is infected? |
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| 22:36.58 | antgel_ | !tell mehul about reverse depends |
| 22:37.01 | streuner | drew: ps aux | grep -i arts |
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| 22:37.22 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: are we supposed to drop the hostnames in the staff channel? or have they stopped trying to keep up for now? |
| 22:37.34 | meneg | !tell meneg about reverse depends |
| 22:37.34 | streuner | jefe486: haha |
| 22:37.41 | Kerr | how often doesis Sarge's stock phpbb deb reg |
| 22:37.43 | Kerr | err |
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| 22:37.53 | rudenstam | I have an odd problem with my network.. if the speeds gets too high (around 80 Mbit) it stops working.. and stays dead till the clock is *:23 and then it comes back online... box doesn't crash, just nic that dies.... any tips ? |
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| 22:38.01 | Kerr | how often does sarge's stock phpbb2 deb get security updates? :-/ |
| 22:38.09 | abrotman | Kerr: check the dsas |
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| 22:38.18 | drew | streuner, I'll paste it in flood |
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| 22:38.44 | Kerr | abrotman: url? :-/ |
| 22:38.48 | SimonRaven | *ahem* subscribe debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org |
| 22:38.49 | meneg | check out if the package you want updates got patched but didnt get a version number update |
| 22:38.51 | abrotman | security.debian.org ? |
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| 22:38.55 | meneg | s/updated |
| 22:39.00 | streuner | drew: well, arts still running ... :-) |
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| 22:39.01 | abrotman | Kerr: and yes .. subscribe to debian-security-announce |
| 22:39.03 | arango | Does any one know how to change the aspect ratio parameter for an mpeg4 avi file ? |
| 22:39.04 | samuel | im sure there is some pimple popping teen sitting down somewhere laughing his head off right now, not sure why though... but im sure he is. |
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| 22:39.21 | drew | streuner, it was suspended when I logged out |
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| 22:39.36 | streuner | drew: ok, try xmms |
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| 22:39.43 | SimonRaven | drew: however, it doesn't |
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| 22:39.47 | streuner | drew: install xmms plugin for ARTS then |
| 22:39.48 | meneg | bah.. amule won't compile, maybe returning to sid is a good idea after all.. |
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| 22:40.06 | SimonRaven | samuel: his bots are really lame though, they don't actually do anything |
| 22:40.12 | meneg | ah doh, no gtk dev |
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| 22:40.19 | SimonRaven | they just join and part a few seconds later... |
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| 22:40.27 | drew | streuner, what is it called? |
| 22:40.28 | johnga1t | any idea why i'd be getting bombarded w/ "(incompatible encoding)" private messages? |
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| 22:40.36 | ircdevil | wikipedia scares me so -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers |
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| 22:40.36 | abrotman | johnga1t: /umode +E |
| 22:40.40 | streuner | drew: apt-cache search xmms plugin |
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| 22:40.45 | ircdevil | !!! |
| 22:40.45 | dpkg | No sóc el teu puto indicador de csh |
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| 22:40.49 | samuel | SimonRaven, thats why i dont know why hes laughing - i just know he is |
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| 22:40.52 | SimonRaven | and his random algo sucks, i haven't been hit with a msg yet ;) |
| 22:40.55 | johnga1t | abrotman: thanks. what's that do? |
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| 22:41.03 | abrotman | SimonRaven: /umode -E |
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| 22:41.11 | SimonRaven | i'm not +E |
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| 22:41.13 | abrotman | johnga1t: nonregistered people can't msg you |
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| 22:41.21 | johnga1t | abrotman: gotcha. thanks. |
| 22:41.22 | streuner | SimonRaven: me too ;-) |
| 22:41.27 | johnga1t | abrotman: wonder what bad list i got myself on |
| 22:41.37 | streuner | SimonRaven: they don't like us ;-) |
| 22:41.39 | abrotman | SimonRaven: dunno .. if i turn it off .. i get about 5 a minute |
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| 22:41.48 | abrotman | like that bastard! |
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| 22:41.51 | SimonRaven | streuner: hehe |
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| 22:42.05 | Kerr | hmm |
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| 22:42.08 | abrotman | did the staff stop trying to keep up ? |
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| 22:42.14 | SimonRaven | nope, not a one. amazing |
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| 22:42.26 | SimonRaven | no idea, they're tring to script it i think |
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| 22:42.30 | SimonRaven | try* |
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| 22:42.58 | johnga1t | trying to do remote xwindows session, when i run something like xeyes i get nothing ... command prompt just hangs but i don't see anything |
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| 22:43.21 | Kerr | though they're all *!n=*@* |
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| 22:43.41 | abrotman | Kerr: so is everyone else |
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| 22:43.53 | SimonRaven | they're pretty much from the same IPs |
| 22:43.54 | Kerr | O.o |
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| 22:44.01 | Kerr | so they are |
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| 22:44.13 | streuner | SimonRaven: do you have a list? |
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| 22:44.22 | sn00p | Why is apt-get installing firefox 1.0.4 instead of 1.0.6? |
| 22:44.26 | SimonRaven | no, but someone else does. sec |
| 22:44.29 | ircdevil | bloody unstable net |
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| 22:44.41 | SimonRaven | @ops http://rafb.net/paste/results/3jdkZG29.html |
| 22:44.42 | Kerr | anyone know offhand how to stop seeing joins/parts for this channel in irssi? |
| 22:44.43 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3jdkZG29.html |
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| 22:44.49 | streuner | SimonRaven: its getting annoying... |
| 22:44.51 | De_Mon | sn00p which brach are you using? |
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| 22:44.55 | drew | streuner, it couldn't open the audio and told me to ensure I have correct plugin selected, my card in configured properly and also that no other program is blocking it |
| 22:45.00 | sn00p | De_Mon: Sarge 2 |
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| 22:45.17 | De_Mon | sn00p 1.0.6 is probably in unstable |
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| 22:45.39 | johnga1t | anybody offer some help o nremote x session problem? (using ssh -YC, have xhost +, seeing SSH_CLIENT and SSH_CONNECTION set as environment variables, and X11Forwarding is on) |
| 22:45.41 | sn00p | De_Mon: I think sarge2 i'm using how do I check? |
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| 22:45.49 | abrotman | !tell johnga1t about sshx |
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| 22:45.58 | streuner | SimonRaven: only 84 ? :-) well, that would break our ban-list.... |
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| 22:46.02 | ircdevil | no spambots at my end :o) |
| 22:46.02 | abrotman | sn00p: check your sources |
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| 22:46.12 | sn00p | abrotman: How |
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| 22:46.19 | ircdevil | doh |
| 22:46.19 | drew | streuner, it couldn't open the audio and told me to ensure I have correct plugin selected, my card in configured properly and also that no other program is blocking it |
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| 22:46.38 | Kerr | ergh |
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| 22:46.42 | ircdevil | -> @80.97.17.77 |
| 22:46.42 | Kerr | that's much better.. |
| 22:46.46 | streuner | drew: so choose the correct plugin in xmms preferences |
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| 22:47.38 | meneg | back to unstable, unacceptable to not have in stable the most important and vital for professional production software called azureus |
| 22:47.40 | beardy | Kerr: I haven't felt it necessary before but now I think I have to hug with you.. |
| 22:47.41 | ircdevil | stupid little punks |
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| 22:48.15 | Gnea | !ops *!*@81.181.186.6 are clonebots |
| 22:48.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: *!*@81.181.186.6 are clonebots |
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| 22:48.27 | meneg | wow |
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| 22:48.32 | meneg | that's some serious cloning |
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| 22:48.39 | Gnea | eh |
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| 22:48.41 | meneg | the guy is a pro llama |
| 22:48.44 | johnga1t | abrotman: thanks for dpkg tip ... tried all of that, still no luck. other ideas? |
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| 22:48.56 | johnga1t | abrotman: (works from other servers on this machine, just not the new debian box i configured) |
| 22:48.57 | ircdevil | hm lilo is hard at work tonite i guess :oP |
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| 22:49.04 | SimonRaven | @ops same for 80.97.17.77 |
| 22:49.04 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: same for 80.97.17.77 |
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| 22:49.08 | Gnea | helix is my heroin. |
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| 22:49.12 | sn00p | Is there a reason why people are just randomly messaging me? |
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| 22:49.19 | mehul | OK, so I tried the suggestion given by dpkg (apt-cache showpkg <pkg>), and although it gives me the rever depends, it does not tell me which one's are installed and which ones are not. Anyway to find that out ? |
| 22:49.19 | DoppelGanger | ircdevil: yeah screwing stuff up and spamming ppl |
| 22:49.21 | WcktKlwn | does anyone know of a good website that explains how to compile a 2.6 kernel? |
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| 22:49.24 | FieldySnuts | *sigh* |
| 22:49.24 | Ries | dondelelcaro: I used a defferent source, did run apt-update and was successfull, is there anything more I need to do befire I can install php4-mcrypt? |
| 22:49.26 | abrotman | johnga1t: any errors? |
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| 22:49.28 | SimonRaven | sn00p: /topic |
| 22:49.32 | Kerr | sn00p: /umode +E and be saved, ya? |
| 22:49.33 | beardy | sn00p: No.. read the topic. |
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| 22:49.38 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@80.97.17.77] by helix |
| 22:49.39 | Gnea | !ops copy that on *!*@80.97.17.77 clonebots |
| 22:49.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: copy that on *!*@80.97.17.77 clonebots |
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| 22:49.45 | Gnea | ooo, she's quick |
| 22:49.46 | ircdevil | DoppelGanger: well, its hes network, so not much to do about it eh? |
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| 22:49.50 | Kerr | why try to crapflood a mass of irssi users? |
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| 22:49.52 | streuner | helix: 80.97.106.173 |
| 22:49.54 | SimonRaven | @ops lilo : SimonRaven: maybe reduce the M in +J N,M ? |
| 22:49.54 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: lilo : SimonRaven: maybe reduce the M in +J N,M |
| 22:49.55 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:49.57 | Kerr | it just doesn't work. |
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| 22:50.07 | johnga1t | abrotman: not that i can see ... is there any way to turn on some verbosity? |
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| 22:50.23 | FieldySnuts | use whatever channel mode that is which requires joining nicks to be identified |
| 22:50.23 | drew | streuner, I chose the arts plugin and it starts playing, but I can't hear it |
| 22:50.24 | DoppelGanger | ircdevil: unfortunately no :( |
| 22:50.26 | SimonRaven | plonk |
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| 22:50.27 | FieldySnuts | at least temporarily |
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| 22:50.32 | johnga1t | abrotman: (btw, should tell you ... i did x-window-system install on this machien but am not running x locally on the machine at all ... merely did the apt-get install) |
| 22:50.41 | FieldySnuts | "r" i think. don't quote me. |
| 22:50.47 | abrotman | johnga1t: there's no errors on either end? |
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| 22:51.04 | johnga1t | abrotman: when i type an "xeyes", i get a newline and nothing. |
| 22:51.06 | SimonRaven | yeh, +r, but they might've changed it for hyperion |
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| 22:51.15 | drew | streuner, I chose the arts plugin and it starts playing, but I can't hear it |
| 22:51.18 | abrotman | there's another! |
| 22:51.19 | FieldySnuts | #gentoo is using it successfully (they are seeing similar problems) |
| 22:51.29 | helix | FieldySnuts: +r? |
| 22:51.30 | SimonRaven | @ops try setting +r channel for a bit |
| 22:51.31 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: try setting +r channel for a bit |
| 22:51.31 | DoppelGanger | ahhhh ricers |
| 22:51.32 | johnga1t | abrotman: how about "error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket." |
| 22:51.34 | *** mode/#debian [+r] by helix |
| 22:51.34 | streuner | drew: well, sorry iam out of ideas then |
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| 22:51.42 | SimonRaven | that should help |
| 22:51.42 | sn00p | spam bots dont even say anything |
| 22:51.44 | abrotman | johnga1t: i've never seen that |
| 22:51.44 | jimm | what's +r again? |
| 22:51.46 | SimonRaven | thanks ops |
| 22:51.48 | drew | streuner, okay |
| 22:51.54 | FieldySnuts | helix: I *think* it means the nick has to be identified to services to join. |
| 22:51.55 | abrotman | hey look .. it's quiet! |
| 22:51.59 | SimonRaven | only registered people can join the channel |
| 22:51.59 | johnga1t | abrotman: shitake. |
| 22:52.01 | FieldySnuts | helix: could be useful temporarily |
| 22:52.01 | SimonRaven | yay |
| 22:52.02 | helix | yah probably means 'registered' |
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| 22:52.27 | meneg | it's new version of the piss-bot, just spam /msg without even offering an anlargement |
| 22:52.28 | jimm | so only those whose "hostmask" starts with i=? |
| 22:52.34 | FieldySnuts | wrong |
| 22:52.39 | Gumby | meneg: are you saying azureus isnt in stable? |
| 22:52.40 | abrotman | jimm: /msg nickserv help |
| 22:52.40 | johnga1t | anybody ever seen "error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket." after failing to get remote x11 session working? |
| 22:52.45 | streuner | jimm: that's a bad idea |
| 22:52.48 | SimonRaven | meneg: hehe |
| 22:52.51 | FieldySnuts | i don't know what the = stuff means. |
| 22:52.54 | meneg | Gumby: it was |
| 22:52.58 | meneg | ? |
| 22:53.01 | meneg | hahah too late |
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| 22:53.04 | abrotman | !info azureus sarge |
| 22:53.06 | dpkg | azureus: (BitTorrent client), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 2.2.0.2-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 4981 kB, Installed size: 5960 kB |
| 22:53.07 | FieldySnuts | oh well it's slowed down. |
| 22:53.07 | jimm | so that's not what +r does? |
| 22:53.08 | abrotman | yay! |
| 22:53.16 | Gumby | meneg: its definately in sarge |
| 22:53.17 | SimonRaven | the X= stuff indicates various things like ident, ident with nickserv, etc. |
| 22:53.23 | meneg | well amule for one wasn't |
| 22:53.27 | abrotman | it's in the FAQ at freenode.net |
| 22:53.31 | FieldySnuts | i don't know, all I know is that #gentoo is using +r to prevent users who are not identified to services from joining. beacuse they had the same problem. |
| 22:53.35 | meneg | which is another vital application for pro production |
| 22:53.36 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
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| 22:53.56 | Kerr | isn't it +R |
| 22:54.01 | FieldySnuts | i don't know. |
| 22:54.20 | abrotman | !helixsnack |
| 22:54.25 | abrotman | well .. there used to be one |
| 22:54.26 | jethro | heh |
| 22:54.27 | SimonRaven | +R is something else |
| 22:54.30 | helix | abrotman: you have to !helixsnack foo |
| 22:54.33 | jimm | what do helixes eat? |
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| 22:54.40 | SimonRaven | !helixsnack helix |
| 22:54.45 | rudenstam | anyone know any reason that my nic dies when it reaches about 80 mbit and then stays dead till the clock is 23 * * * * next time (if I don't restart it) ? |
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| 22:54.48 | abrotman | oh |
| 22:54.50 | Gnea | well i'm getting her ice cream, whatever flavor she wants |
| 22:54.51 | abrotman | !helixsnack helix |
| 22:54.52 | helix | thanks |
| 22:54.55 | peterS | I still think the first hyphen shouldn't be there |
| 22:55.01 | Gumby | meneg: if you consider file sharing apps vital for pro production you are dellusional |
| 22:55.05 | FieldySnuts | ~irritate abrotman |
| 22:55.08 | apt | abrotman: hi every1 how does I run teh grafixx windows U FUX0RZ |
| 22:55.09 | helix | Gnea: soy ice cream? |
| 22:55.09 | helix | peterS: heh |
| 22:55.09 | FieldySnuts | beh |
| 22:55.22 | Gnea | helix: yes, i said ice cream ;) |
| 22:55.23 | abrotman | date FieldySnuts |
| 22:55.24 | meneg | Gumby: just j/k |
| 22:55.26 | FieldySnuts | lagged |
| 22:55.27 | Gnea | oh |
| 22:55.28 | Gnea | soy |
| 22:55.38 | beardy | rudenstam: sounds interesting/strange |
| 22:55.46 | Gnea | i'm not used to the kates font, but yes, soy ice cream |
| 22:55.48 | sn00p | so mozilla-firefox doesn't work version 1.0.6 in debian? |
| 22:55.49 | tcero | why can' t I use xgamma!!! |
| 22:55.58 | FieldySnuts | user error? |
| 22:56.03 | helix | kthx |
| 22:56.09 | Gnea | np |
| 22:56.16 | jimm | Gumby: I do consider them vital for some applications... |
| 22:56.18 | buu | Goddam vegans are ruining the soil. |
| 22:56.21 | rudenstam | beardy: yeah... very annoying I can tell you.. :) |
| 22:56.32 | Gnea | buu: go piss on it |
| 22:56.33 | rudenstam | beardy: brand new intel 100 nic.. running the e100 driver as module.. |
| 22:56.39 | Gumby | jimm: usefull maybe, vital hardly |
| 22:56.42 | buu | Gnea: Think it will help? |
| 22:56.51 | SimonRaven | pissing would help the soil, if diluted properly |
| 22:56.52 | helix | no, you have to poop on it |
| 22:56.54 | rudenstam | beardy: any ideas ? |
| 22:57.00 | Gnea | rofl |
| 22:57.27 | beardy | rudenstam: sorry, no not really.. Do you have another nic you could try with instead? |
| 22:57.33 | jimm | Gumby: depends on the app, just like the useful/lessness or vital/nonvitalness of anything would depend on what you're applying it to |
| 22:57.34 | streuner | helix: why didn't you go to france? |
| 22:57.51 | helix | because french people suck |
| 22:57.55 | FieldySnuts | amen |
| 22:57.56 | abrotman | suck what? |
| 22:58.08 | abrotman | lollipops? |
| 22:58.09 | Gnea | abrotman: everything |
| 22:58.11 | Ries | jethro: Tull? |
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| 22:58.14 | rudenstam | beardy: I was running on a VIA Rhine before.. but got crc errors for no apparent reason then.. that's why we deiceded to buy a new one.. and no crc errors now.. it just dies instead.. |
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| 22:58.17 | jethro | !lose Ries |
| 22:58.18 | dpkg | Ries: You Lose. |
| 22:58.22 | streuner | jethro: helix made a joke... |
| 22:58.22 | Ries | :D |
| 22:58.25 | FieldySnuts | @hire abrotman |
| 22:58.32 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:58.33 | FieldySnuts | it picks that every time now. annoying. |
| 22:58.39 | Ries | jethro: it's a great bad, the have a concert in Quiti/Ecuador now :) |
| 22:58.53 | FieldySnuts | wtf? haha it picked streuner as the second random person |
| 22:58.59 | FieldySnuts | heh sorry |
| 22:59.04 | jethro | Ries: I know the band, but my nickname is not related to them sorry |
| 22:59.20 | Ries | jethro: bad joke to...sorry :) |
| 22:59.24 | SimonRaven | FieldySnuts: maybe it's pssied off about that idjit that's there for the us' un ambassador |
| 22:59.26 | abrotman | dpkg: give me NESN |
| 22:59.27 | dpkg | give abrotman NESN |
| 22:59.31 | jethro | Ries: it's not as if you were the first one to try it |
| 22:59.32 | antgel_ | aqualung rocks |
| 22:59.41 | FieldySnuts | dunno, the factoid picked the other possibilities for a while, then didn't |
| 22:59.45 | FieldySnuts | heck if i know why |
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| 22:59.49 | SimonRaven | oh well |
| 22:59.52 | FieldySnuts | the aussiesmite one does the same thing now |
| 22:59.56 | streuner | helix: sounds like 'Lance Armstrong' ;-) |
| 22:59.57 | SimonRaven | needs more randomness |
| 23:00.03 | jethro | @aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 23:00.03 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: heh im going to the dunny to wank with my donger mate |
| 23:00.13 | FieldySnuts | it's not that, at least hire chooses un bribing lackey every time now |
| 23:00.15 | jethro | damn it's been a long time |
| 23:00.15 | abrotman | @hire FieldySnuts |
| 23:00.18 | helix | streuner: what? |
| 23:00.20 | abrotman | that's better :) |
| 23:00.21 | FieldySnuts | or not? |
| 23:00.25 | FieldySnuts | *confused* |
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| 23:00.37 | *** mode/#debian [-r] by helix |
| 23:00.43 | abrotman | it is fixed? |
| 23:00.44 | politik | anyone familiar with the "feta" package? opinions? |
| 23:00.46 | streuner | helix: well, he said french people don't like winners :-) |
| 23:00.47 | FieldySnuts | heh i never noticed you had it r |
| 23:00.48 | helix | nah |
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| 23:01.05 | beardy | rudenstam: I really have no idea what you should do, but if it were me, I would run memtest first, to check the ram, just to start someplace. |
| 23:01.10 | abrotman | that didn't last long :) |
| 23:01.16 | jethro | actually I must admit most french people suck |
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| 23:01.27 | streuner | helix: Do you know 'Lance Armstrong' at all? |
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| 23:01.44 | abrotman | streuner: who? |
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| 23:01.51 | SimonRaven | here they come again |
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| 23:01.54 | abrotman | streuner: is he that slacker that's dating sheryl crow? |
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| 23:02.01 | streuner | jethro: bullshit, most french people are just cool. |
| 23:02.02 | FieldySnuts | yep, i think so. |
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| 23:02.12 | jethro | abrotman: no, it's the junkie riding a bike |
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| 23:02.16 | streuner | abrotman: haha |
| 23:02.19 | FieldySnuts | how the hell do they rack up so many damn hosts |
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| 23:02.24 | abrotman | jethro: you're just sore because frenchmen can't ride bikes :) |
| 23:02.26 | antgel_ | ffs. do they infect clients? |
| 23:02.29 | jethro | abrotman: hah |
| 23:02.32 | FieldySnuts | probably |
| 23:02.34 | cappicard | hmm.. would I be able to install Debian on a PowerMac 6100 (NuBus)? |
| 23:02.38 | rudenstam | beardy: yeah... I might... still very odd error though.. have had bad mem and usually gives random odd errors |
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| 23:02.58 | SimonRaven | cappicard: nubus-pmac.sf.net |
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| 23:02.58 | paulswm | Lance is not a cheat |
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| 23:02.59 | SimonRaven | cappicard: also see the -nubus kernels |
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| 23:03.01 | jethro | paulswm: of course he is |
| 23:03.01 | cappicard | ok |
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| 23:03.15 | FieldySnuts | prove he's a cheat. |
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| 23:03.41 | jethro | FieldySnuts: it's been proved |
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| 23:03.41 | jethro | FieldySnuts: he cheated at least in 99 |
| 23:03.41 | FieldySnuts | by a newspaper. hardly authoritive. |
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| 23:03.41 | jethro | but who cares |
| 23:03.41 | dondelelcaro | jethro: the dude's had more drug tests than any other cyclist in history. |
| 23:03.44 | ciaron | how do i stop these constant /msg spams? |
| 23:03.45 | FieldySnuts | yeah, that's right, abandon the argument as you are about to be trounced. |
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| 23:03.48 | dondelelcaro | ciaron: /topic |
| 23:03.49 | FieldySnuts | it's okay, i understand |
| 23:03.50 | abrotman | jethro: no it hasn't .. they found one sample from 7 years ago .. it's speculative .. and if it were dirty .. why wasn't the other sample dirty? |
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| 23:04.04 | cappicard | I'm reading that now. question being: does the netinstall PPC CD support booting that 6100? |
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| 23:04.05 | jethro | wtf how the hell would they ride that fast without doing drugs |
| 23:04.16 | FieldySnuts | crap that's annoying |
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| 23:04.17 | ciaron | dondelelcaro: cheers |
| 23:04.17 | streuner | dondelelcaro: and he failed in most this :-) |
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| 23:04.17 | buu | abrotman: You mean the sample that they can't actually test any more? |
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| 23:04.21 | abrotman | jethro: his legs are the size of your stomach? :) |
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| 23:04.24 | jethro | anyway, that's off topic for #debian so lets not keep on discussing that here :) |
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| 23:04.39 | abrotman | buu: hey .. i didn't say where it was .. i just asked why they didn't test the A and B sample |
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| 23:04.51 | FieldySnuts | nice troll though. |
| 23:04.55 | FieldySnuts | seems to have worked |
| 23:04.57 | buu | abrotman: Because it's too old to get a valid response back, as I recall |
| 23:04.59 | SimonRaven | cappicard: no clue. i suspect you might need to install according to nubus-pmac docs then install the nubus kernel. tell svenl that you are, he's interested in people installing onto nubus powerpc macs |
| 23:04.59 | paulswm | Lance is the best cyclist that's ever been and this stupid paper is just a hate rag, and I'm leaving because of the large number of spambots, you all stay safe, nice to see you jethro :) |
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| 23:05.09 | FieldySnuts | bye paulswm |
| 23:05.09 | cappicard | ok |
| 23:05.09 | abrotman | buu: oh .. but the other from 7 years ago was ok ? |
| 23:05.12 | jethro | paulswm: cheers paulswm :) |
| 23:05.16 | paulswm | Bye FieldySnuts |
| 23:05.17 | SimonRaven | paulswm: see ya |
| 23:05.18 | cappicard | I know that mac can boot CDs. |
| 23:05.25 | paulswm | Bye SimonRaven |
| 23:05.26 | FieldySnuts | cappicard: duh. |
| 23:05.26 | buu | abrotman: Er, no, I was talking about the one from 7 years ago. |
| 23:05.27 | SimonRaven | not linux cds |
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| 23:05.28 | cappicard | I may have to strip down MacOS abit |
| 23:05.38 | abrotman | buu: there are always two .. each time they sample |
| 23:05.39 | cappicard | and resize my partitions |
| 23:05.41 | FieldySnuts | and how are you going to do that? it's closed |
| 23:05.44 | FieldySnuts | oh |
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| 23:05.52 | SimonRaven | not yet anyway, until we get miboot hacked up a bit ;) |
| 23:05.57 | buu | abrotman: I thought I read an article saying that the sample(s) were too old for anything useful, which is why the so called 'proof' is nonexistant =/ |
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| 23:06.01 | cappicard | SimonRaven: so, only newer Macs can boot linux CDs? |
| 23:06.07 | cappicard | ah ok |
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| 23:06.11 | abrotman | buu: i'm saying they only did one .. there are always two |
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| 23:06.23 | SimonRaven | cappicard: newworlds. until miboot gets properly hacked on |
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| 23:06.32 | cappicard | gotcha |
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| 23:06.44 | buu | abrotman: I'm saying Lance Armstrong never cheated! |
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| 23:07.01 | SimonRaven | then oldworlds will be able to use miboot to boot from cd. not sure if nubus ones will be able to, but i don't see why not |
| 23:07.08 | abrotman | buu: oh .. that i don't know .. i'm just saying the proof is iffy :) |
| 23:07.12 | abrotman | err "proof" :) |
| 23:07.17 | cappicard | so, I just need a minimal installation of OS8.5 and then resize my HD to contain MacOS and then follow those nubus instructoins |
| 23:07.23 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 23:07.23 | dpkg | somebody said ppc was short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc, or not going to be used by Apple much longer |
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| 23:07.27 | SimonRaven | pretty much |
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| 23:07.34 | masoft | I have 3 DVD image for Debian Sarge and Got them when debian Freezed ! can Jigdo make them upgrade to 2 DVD Image Stable Sarge ? |
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| 23:08.19 | buu | abrotman: I read an interesting article on it a couple of days ago. As I recall, in 99 or 98, he actually was taking a drug that has been banned for performance enhancement because it thickens the blood. However, he was taking it because he just got out of chemotherapy for freaking cancer. *shrug* |
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| 23:08.41 | SimonRaven | increases red blood cell count |
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| 23:08.45 | FieldySnuts | even if he was doing the drugs, you think he could have won SEVEN CONSECUTIVE times? gimmie a break. |
| 23:08.45 | abrotman | buu: dunno .. i say we send him to gitmo! |
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| 23:08.58 | buu | abrotman: He could escape with his super powers! |
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| 23:09.02 | SimonRaven | FieldySnuts: no ;) |
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| 23:09.05 | FieldySnuts | me neither |
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| 23:09.22 | FieldySnuts | he's an amazing athelte and incredible human for what he's been through, so get off his ****. |
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| 23:09.36 | wols_ | buu: EPO does thicken the blood (I take it myself) |
| 23:09.42 | buu | wols_: Yar, that's the one. |
| 23:09.45 | SimonRaven | the "proof" is iffy anyway, like abrotman said. one sample has it, the other, no? stinks of a planted sample |
| 23:09.46 | ircdevil | fucking infected winblows machines |
| 23:09.47 | FieldySnuts | @smite com.mx |
| 23:09.59 | ircdevil | shouldnt be allowed on the net in the first place |
| 23:10.00 | rixth_ | Where is a memory stick going to be mounted? |
| 23:10.01 | buu | wols_: But he hasn't taken it in like 6 years. So eh, who cares. |
| 23:10.08 | wols_ | SimonRaven: all top cyclists cheat with EPO. all of them |
| 23:10.12 | wols_ | there is no exception |
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| 23:10.15 | stew | everyone in professional cycling who's anyone does some doping of some sort, at least according to the people who are retired from the sport |
| 23:10.15 | abrotman | rixth_: dmesg |
| 23:10.18 | FieldySnuts | damn trolls |
| 23:10.18 | rixth_ | rixth_, When I used to use Gnome, it would mount it automatically |
| 23:10.32 | buu | stew: You mean the bitter old losers?! |
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| 23:10.35 | masoft | is it possible to have Gnome 2.10 in Sarge ? |
| 23:10.42 | SimonRaven | damn worms |
| 23:10.46 | stew | buu: no i mean like bernard hinault and eddie merckx |
| 23:10.47 | rixth_ | USB Mass Storage device found at 2? Now what do I do? |
| 23:10.50 | SimonRaven | (Worm.Mydoom.AT) |
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| 23:10.53 | buu | stew: Suure. |
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| 23:10.57 | streuner | wols_: its only question who takes the best things.... |
| 23:10.58 | stew | buu: sure |
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| 23:11.03 | FieldySnuts | SimonRaven: how do you know? |
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| 23:11.08 | buu | stew: But they don't have any proof? |
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| 23:11.14 | SimonRaven | clamav + exim4 ;) |
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| 23:11.20 | wols_ | streuner: exactly. and western nations often have the best drugs, the ones which aren't testable yet |
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| 23:11.25 | FieldySnuts | can the damn lance armstrong discussion go somewhere else, please? |
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| 23:11.38 | SimonRaven | like #tourdefrance or something |
| 23:11.43 | FieldySnuts | or #fuckingtrolls |
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| 23:11.44 | rixth_ | This is mental, I keep getting /msg'd but they're blank. Is Freenode having a DDOS attack? |
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| 23:11.51 | dondelelcaro | rixth_: /topic |
| 23:11.51 | streuner | wols_: the thing is Lance got this stuff legal... |
| 23:11.53 | SimonRaven | rixth_: topic |
| 23:11.53 | hacim | does anyone know where to get nerim/marillat's archive public key? |
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| 23:12.03 | rixth_ | dondelelcaro, oh, sorry |
| 23:12.05 | dondelelcaro | hacim: it's 0x1F41B907 |
| 23:12.06 | masoft | Niel Armstrong was the first Astronut who walk in mars :D |
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| 23:12.16 | SimonRaven | o_O |
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| 23:12.17 | FieldySnuts | might I suggest changing that in the topic from /umode to /mode yournick +E ? not all clients have /umode from what I understand |
| 23:12.18 | streuner | wols_: because of his cancer.... |
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| 23:12.19 | BeavieS | rixth_, me too... |
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| 23:12.20 | stew | buu: they both have been very up front that they were doping and they both said "absolutely everyone does" when they did |
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| 23:12.29 | BeavieS | white private messages... |
| 23:12.31 | hacim | dondelelcaro: thats the archive key too? I know thats his key |
| 23:12.32 | stew | buu: search for "eddie merckx" and doping see what you find |
| 23:12.38 | FieldySnuts | BeavieS: yes, trust me, we know. |
| 23:12.46 | dondelelcaro | hacim: yeah; it appears to be. gpg --export 1F41B907|apt-key add -; should do it. |
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| 23:13.02 | dondelelcaro | hacim: but you probably already knew that. ;-) |
| 23:13.03 | stew | buu: indurain has discussed it as well |
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| 23:13.11 | BeavieS | FieldySnuts, sure :) |
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| 23:13.28 | wols_ | streuner: not if he was running the tour de france. an EPO therapy takes about a month max to get the hematcrite back up |
| 23:13.39 | dondelelcaro | wols_, streuner: please take it elsewhere. |
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| 23:13.44 | wols_ | as I said: I know cause I'm taking the stuff myself for almost 10 years now |
| 23:13.45 | FieldySnuts | thanks |
| 23:13.45 | samuel | wols_, alot of those drugs they patented and practically stole from remedies of the populations of poor countries. so in terms of drugs lots of times poor countries are not as far behind as they apear to be |
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| 23:14.14 | buu | samuel: Yay, they're mostly controlled by the illuminati |
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| 23:14.17 | wols_ | samuel: not EPO. its genetically manufactured in ovaries of chinese hamsters (that's no joke) |
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| 23:14.18 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 23:14.23 | FieldySnuts | illuminati HEH |
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| 23:14.38 | streuner | haha |
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| 23:14.45 | dondelelcaro | samuel: likewise. samuel wols_ streuner buu: join #doping and have it out. |
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| 23:14.54 | FieldySnuts | heh. nice channel name |
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| 23:14.58 | hacim | dondelelcaro: my gpg doesn't seem to like --export <keyid> it expects <name> but I'm not able to get that to work :) |
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| 23:15.03 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: do you have ops there? |
| 23:15.05 | rixth_ | So I know my memory stick is at address 2, what now? |
| 23:15.07 | FieldySnuts | hahahaha |
| 23:15.08 | samuel | wols_, well, we are entering a new era, and with this era i think you are definately right, gap will get bigger |
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| 23:15.16 | dondelelcaro | wols_: no; but I do here. Don't make me use them. |
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| 23:15.28 | FieldySnuts | yeah. he will, trust me ;) |
| 23:15.28 | sagarp | i have a module that loads fine but every time i boot, i have to pass parameters to the module and then reload it...how cnan i get it to do that automatically? |
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| 23:15.42 | streuner | FieldySnuts: hehe :-) |
| 23:15.48 | dondelelcaro | hacim: weird. |
| 23:15.57 | Ries | dondelelcaro: thanks for all the advive...it works smoothly now |
| 23:16.05 | dondelelcaro | Ries: cool |
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| 23:16.14 | dondelelcaro | hacim: is it 1.4.1? |
| 23:16.16 | mfrisch | rixth_ dmesg|grep sd mount output like mount /dev/sda2 |
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| 23:16.30 | hacim | dondelelcaro: thats the one |
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| 23:16.34 | wols_ | sagarp: man modules |
| 23:16.40 | hacim | dondelelcaro: I'm trying to get a <name> that works :) |
| 23:16.40 | dondelelcaro | hacim: hrm... that's really wierd |
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| 23:16.48 | green_earz | sagarp: use modconf |
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| 23:17.05 | dondelelcaro | hacim: yeah, here I just gpg --recv-keys 1F41B907; gpg --export 1F41B907|sudo apt-key add -; and it works. |
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| 23:17.20 | Xi-Phazor | Do not download the files people send you. Especailly if your on a windows client. These bots are ctcp spamming people and then trying to send them files or links to files that are infected. They want to turn your computer into other spam bots. |
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| 23:17.30 | hacim | dondelelcaro: odd, that works |
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| 23:17.45 | dondelelcaro | Xi-Phazor: I think we're aware of that... (and this is #debian, after all) |
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| 23:17.57 | dondelelcaro | hacim: heh |
| 23:17.59 | FieldySnuts | 1723/tcp filtered pptp from a portscan on many of them (i'm taking my own risk here doing so) |
| 23:18.04 | Xi-Phazor | They did not send my linux box the file, just the blank message, but when they found out that my version was windows (school computer) they spammed me. so they are getting the ctcp version info |
| 23:18.04 | FieldySnuts | and nothing else |
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| 23:18.27 | sagarp | sweet |
| 23:18.36 | sagarp | green_earz thanks |
| 23:18.56 | FieldySnuts | how dumb. they could at least do something. what a waste of effort. not that I would want them to do anything... |
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| 23:19.01 | green_earz | sagarp: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/hardware.html |
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| 23:19.26 | FieldySnuts | heh windowsxp |
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| 23:19.42 | buu | jesus |
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| 23:20.41 | FieldySnuts | hi LoRez , welcome to the fun (possibly zombied systems joining/parting |
| 23:20.44 | FieldySnuts | ) |
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| 23:20.52 | FieldySnuts | trying to figure out what they are myself |
| 23:20.56 | green_earz | sagarp: bookmark the link its very handy debian doc " Debian Reference " > http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.en.html thats if you do not have it ? |
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| 23:21.03 | Rez | FieldySnuts: I've been around for it |
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| 23:21.15 | FieldySnuts | Rez: how long has this been going on? |
| 23:21.22 | dondelelcaro | about 2 hours now, iirc. |
| 23:21.37 | abrotman | since about 430 |
| 23:21.39 | abrotman | EST |
| 23:21.42 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 23:21.44 | jethro | some tards need to get a life |
| 23:21.46 | FieldySnuts | after what Xi-Phazor said, i wonder if it's some sort of worm/trojan |
| 23:21.50 | *** mode/#debian [+J 25,10] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:21.54 | Xi-Phazor | It is |
| 23:21.55 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 23:22.06 | FieldySnuts | Xi-Phazor: do you have one of those files? I am interested |
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| 23:22.26 | Xi-Phazor | Just log into #D with a windows client they will send you a ton of them |
| 23:22.29 | streuner | jethro: some people say its a botnet, some say they are people who need life ;-) |
| 23:22.30 | wols_ | wouldn't a worm mobilize many more infected machines? |
| 23:22.35 | FieldySnuts | i don't have any windows clients |
| 23:22.48 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: munge your /ctcp version; |
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| 23:22.50 | jethro | streuner: the botnet needs a puppet master :) |
| 23:22.58 | FieldySnuts | they version? |
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| 23:22.59 | antgel_ | it can be so boring sometimes not being a winshit user |
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| 23:23.22 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: I don't know; that's the only way they could figure out that you're running windows |
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| 23:23.36 | Xi-Phazor | They ctcp spam you and find out the version spam you some more and then they send you a file if its windows xp/2000 |
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| 23:23.55 | SimonRaven | ah |
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| 23:23.59 | FieldySnuts | back to the question, do you have one of those files? not interested enough to get it myself |
| 23:24.03 | Xi-Phazor | It seems like the file senders are from one ip and the linkers are from another ip |
| 23:24.06 | FieldySnuts | and what's special about #D? |
| 23:24.10 | Xi-Phazor | I dont have a file no. |
| 23:24.12 | antgel_ | Xi-Phazor: is it a vulnerability in specific clients (e.g. mirc?) |
| 23:24.14 | FieldySnuts | heh i smell a fellow pentester |
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| 23:24.22 | stew | dondelelcaro: +J 25,10 thats 10 users every 25 seconds? or what? |
| 23:24.25 | Xi-Phazor | I can't recieve them |
| 23:24.29 | abrotman | Xi-Phazor: what is your client? |
| 23:24.33 | Xi-Phazor | X-Chat |
| 23:24.45 | FieldySnuts | what's special about #D? |
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| 23:24.45 | abrotman | Xi-Phazor: they didn't send me anything when i was at work and on win32 chat |
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| 23:24.54 | poncho | Hello! |
| 23:24.55 | SimonRaven | someone got a fake ctcp version reply i can use to fetch the file? :) |
| 23:24.56 | Xi-Phazor | Hmm... |
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| 23:25.04 | jethro | SimonRaven: xchat 2.4.4-1 Windows 5.1 [i1586/2.21GHz] |
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| 23:25.07 | dondelelcaro | stew: no, it's a 25 user queue, one slot frees every 10 seconds. |
| 23:25.16 | stew | ahh ok |
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| 23:25.19 | jethro | SimonRaven: that's Xi-Phazor's :p |
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| 23:25.22 | SimonRaven | i think it should be mirc, just to add to the exctement |
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| 23:25.25 | FieldySnuts | those hosts are very lagged or they go down fast |
| 23:25.27 | swim | hey folks |
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| 23:25.29 | SimonRaven | excitement* |
| 23:25.31 | dondelelcaro | (or the reverse, I can never remember) |
| 23:25.33 | antgel_ | abrotman: they know who you are ;) |
| 23:25.35 | abrotman | SimonRaven: excrement ? |
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| 23:25.41 | abrotman | antgel_: i doubt that |
| 23:25.43 | SimonRaven | abrotman: hehe |
| 23:25.43 | swim | well after months of freebsd i think im coming back to linux... and thus debian i love freebsd, preffer it mostly over linux, but i just don't have the time to spend on maintenance anymore |
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| 23:25.54 | stew | dondelelcaro: looks like the reverse |
| 23:26.04 | Xi-Phazor | VERSION xchat 2.4.4-1 Windows 5.1 [i1586/2.21GHz] is my version, however thats not exactly accurate. |
| 23:26.08 | SimonRaven | that's the one thing i had with netbsd, the maintenance |
| 23:26.10 | abrotman | !d-i swim |
| 23:26.11 | dpkg | swim, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:26.12 | antgel_ | swim: interesting. i looked at freebsd recently but then decided it wasn't quite... good :P |
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| 23:26.33 | dondelelcaro | stew: yeah, it's the reverse |
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| 23:26.45 | sn00p | freebsd is good |
| 23:26.46 | FieldySnuts | jethro: make it less annoying for us, wait 10 seconds then join back :) |
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| 23:26.56 | jethro | ah sorry :) |
| 23:26.58 | sn00p | so is debian |
| 23:27.34 | Topslakr | how do i configure grub from ssh? grub.conf isn't in /boot/grub |
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| 23:27.50 | abrotman | destina! |
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| 23:27.55 | antgel_ | i didn't like the fact that they consider e.g. sendmail to be part of the system. i suppose i'm just too used to debian /linux/ to want to think why that might be good. |
| 23:27.55 | FieldySnuts | bot? |
| 23:28.00 | FieldySnuts | was about to portscan it |
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| 23:28.05 | stew | Topslakr: menu.lst |
| 23:28.05 | abrotman | Topslakr: you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
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| 23:28.07 | swim | oh im quite familiar wtih debian thanks though abrotman |
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| 23:28.13 | SimonRaven | they don't /msg me... wtf |
| 23:28.14 | antgel_ | although if the security support keeps having "issues"... :) |
| 23:28.17 | abrotman | swim: oh ok |
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| 23:28.22 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 5101/tcp on 81.192.20.125 |
| 23:28.23 | jethro | nordnet?! thought this ISP was dead |
| 23:28.24 | FieldySnuts | hm. |
| 23:28.24 | abrotman | SimonRaven: /umode -E |
| 23:28.27 | antgel_ | SimonRaven: you +E? |
| 23:28.32 | SimonRaven | i'm not though |
| 23:28.38 | SimonRaven | SimonRaven mode eiw |
| 23:28.41 | abrotman | SimonRaven: change your nick ? |
| 23:28.44 | swim | does testing have xorg yet? |
| 23:28.46 | SimonRaven | ah there we go |
| 23:28.48 | abrotman | swim: nope .. |
| 23:28.53 | id10t | i'm stuck in bitchx atm - could someone help an id10t out and tell me what the name for the debian on macs channel is? |
| 23:28.56 | streuner | swim: not yet |
| 23:28.59 | abrotman | SimonRaven: +e ? |
| 23:29.04 | antgel_ | SimonRaven: do whatever it takes, just get them msging you |
| 23:29.11 | abrotman | !tell id10t about ppc |
| 23:29.12 | FieldySnuts | too noisy. nah. |
| 23:29.13 | SimonRaven | FieldySnuts: do |
| 23:29.27 | stew | id10t: #debianppc |
| 23:29.31 | streuner | makes no sense |
| 23:29.37 | abrotman | SimonRaven: getting them now ? |
| 23:29.38 | FieldySnuts | SimonRaven: it wouldn't work anyway, every single one has basically disappeared (no route to host) before i can even finish nmap -vv -F -P0 -T4 |
| 23:29.40 | id10t | thanks all |
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| 23:29.51 | streuner | those infected boxes are out of control anyway... |
| 23:29.56 | FieldySnuts | so they are either being taken down or killing their own upstream |
| 23:29.58 | yonkeltron | GOOD SHABBOS!!! |
| 23:30.00 | poncho | Why im getting empty /msg 's from ppol ? |
| 23:30.04 | antgel_ | shabbat shalom |
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| 23:30.08 | jethro | poncho: /topic |
| 23:30.08 | swim | ah, abrotman before i used to use sid alot, that was before 3.1 was released since it was ive found sid to be much more unstable (i guess thats to be expected) thats one thing though that Im not sure about, because when using sid I would have much more up to date stuff... which coming back from freebsd is what I like (freebsd ports are very up to date) |
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| 23:30.16 | SimonRaven | got 2, but no file |
| 23:30.17 | dondelelcaro | !tell yonkeltron about away |
| 23:30.19 | jethro | poncho: register your nick, and /umode +E |
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| 23:30.28 | abrotman | swim: sid is a mess right now .. gcc4 and xorg and a bunch of other things coming in |
| 23:30.29 | FieldySnuts | telnet 81.192.20.125 5101 |
| 23:30.31 | FieldySnuts | that's one of them |
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| 23:30.36 | FieldySnuts | anyone care to figure that oout |
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| 23:30.48 | id10t | yonkeltron i can still tell the difference between dark blue and black... maybe in about 10 min? |
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| 23:30.58 | FieldySnuts | HEAD / HTTP/1.0 gets connection closed |
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| 23:30.58 | FieldySnuts | so i dunno what it is |
| 23:31.10 | id10t | thanks again for the pointer to the ppc channel |
| 23:31.40 | antgel_ | how can i /ignore all the stupid bitchx quit messages? |
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| 23:31.50 | antgel_ | e.g. "bitchx. er, really great." |
| 23:31.54 | jethro | antgel_: /help ignore |
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| 23:32.02 | FieldySnuts | hm. not closing my connection now |
| 23:32.05 | FieldySnuts | ah there it goes |
| 23:32.22 | FieldySnuts | no banner, could be damn well anything |
| 23:32.23 | dondelelcaro | antgel_: cafuego has a script to ignore the bitchx quit messages. |
| 23:32.35 | dondelelcaro | (for irssi) |
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| 23:32.44 | Topslakr | how do i configure grub from ssh? grub.conf isn't in /boot/grub or anywhere |
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| 23:32.56 | antgel_ | jethro: would love to, but am experimenting with cygwin/X and irssi, and need to configure fucking alt key - can't change windows |
| 23:33.04 | ElectricElf | Topslakr: menu.lst is the file you should be looking for |
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| 23:33.08 | antgel_ | dondelelcaro: sounds like the nuts |
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| 23:33.18 | sn00p | does debian have a package for flashplugin for firefox? |
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| 23:33.23 | Topslakr | ok, thx ElectricElf |
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| 23:33.24 | jethro | antgel_: even with ctrl-p/n ? |
| 23:33.27 | ElectricElf | Topslakr: (If it still isn't there, and there's still no menu.lst, 'update-grub' will generate a fresh one for you based on some random shit it pulls from random places. But you'll want to check it before you reboot ;) |
| 23:33.34 | antgel_ | !hug jethro |
| 23:33.40 | swim | abrotman, what do you use |
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| 23:33.45 | BeavieS | lol |
| 23:33.45 | streuner | sn00p: marillat |
| 23:33.51 | BeavieS | !hug myself |
| 23:33.51 | abrotman | swim: sarge ... i'm too lazy to have stuff break :) |
| 23:33.52 | antgel_ | i'm not au fait really, i'm lazy and used to xchat |
| 23:33.55 | BeavieS | ahaha |
| 23:33.56 | BeavieS | xD |
| 23:33.58 | ElectricElf | Topslakr: Note that it might be /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:33.58 | sn00p | str: ? |
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| 23:34.03 | SimonRaven | :( |
| 23:34.05 | sn00p | streuener: ? |
| 23:34.05 | ElectricElf | Topslakr: (Don't ask. :) |
| 23:34.12 | jethro | antgel_: there's also /win n, n being the number of the window |
| 23:34.15 | SimonRaven | come on you stoopid bots send me a file already |
| 23:34.20 | stew | antgel_: /ignore -regexp -pattern "BitchX" JOINS |
| 23:34.22 | stew | i think |
| 23:34.25 | abrotman | SimonRaven: try changing your nick? |
| 23:34.26 | rudenstam | beardy: still there ? |
| 23:34.28 | SimonRaven | oh hmm |
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| 23:34.36 | SimonRaven | set auto_accept dcc send |
| 23:34.36 | abrotman | SimonRaven: are they msg'ing you ? |
| 23:34.40 | SimonRaven | yes |
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| 23:34.59 | FieldySnuts | little peckers don't stay up anywhere close to long enough for even a fast port scan |
| 23:34.59 | rudenstam | SimonRaven: you also getting spammed ? |
| 23:35.03 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 23:35.08 | SimonRaven | intentionally |
| 23:35.09 | antgel_ | SimonRaven: are you a masochist? |
| 23:35.13 | politik | I get nothing from them but privmsg |
| 23:35.20 | sn00p | streuner: ? |
| 23:35.21 | rudenstam | SimonRaven: I talked with staffer.. they're looking at it |
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| 23:35.22 | aeacides | blank message |
| 23:35.25 | SimonRaven | no i'm tryign to get the file |
| 23:35.35 | Md | aeacides: spambots. /umode +E |
| 23:35.38 | politik | aeacides: yeah me too |
| 23:35.38 | antgel_ | SimonRaven: i rest my case lol |
| 23:35.44 | FieldySnuts | when you get that thing tell me |
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| 23:35.49 | abrotman | politik: aeacides /umode +E |
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| 23:36.06 | FieldySnuts | anyone aware of other channels getting this harder than #debian right now? |
| 23:36.14 | politik | abrotman: I'm in mIRC, I don't think that does anything for me |
| 23:36.16 | FieldySnuts | #gentoo was getting blasted earlier but they've gone +r |
| 23:36.28 | SimonRaven | antgel_: dude i'm on a ppc linux box. as if they can do anything to it ;) |
| 23:36.39 | abrotman | politik: oh .. then get the virus for FieldySnuts |
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| 23:36.42 | aeacides | i'm surprised +r would help |
| 23:36.46 | SimonRaven | it did |
| 23:36.49 | politik | abrotman: lol yeah right |
| 23:36.58 | antgel_ | SimonRaven: as i said before, it's boring using linux |
| 23:37.03 | aeacides | the bots don't appear to be in this channel, so some toher name with +r could easily relay user names to them |
| 23:37.04 | FieldySnuts | it did, it just blocks a lot of legetimate users |
| 23:37.07 | SimonRaven | indeed =) |
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| 23:37.21 | FieldySnuts | hrm. maybe a lot of them are going to #debian-overflow |
| 23:37.22 | streuner | sn00p: /msg apt marillat |
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| 23:37.34 | Md | aeacides: bots join, memorize the nicks, part and pass the list to a different bot |
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| 23:37.42 | SimonRaven | FieldySnuts: i imagine they are |
| 23:37.50 | moshii | someone know if sun pci framebuffers work in x86 boxes? |
| 23:37.55 | FieldySnuts | so who's got information on these? we should pool our info |
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| 23:37.59 | politik | is it some new mIRC exploit? |
| 23:38.00 | Md | so far, I'm killing them fast enough |
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| 23:38.11 | SimonRaven | w00t Md |
| 23:38.14 | abrotman | mike__: !!! |
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| 23:39.33 | FieldySnuts | 86.125.96.137 has quite a few tcp ports open |
| 23:39.36 | FieldySnuts | (bukett) |
| 23:39.41 | brimstone | is there a how to on the debian site for building .debs? |
| 23:39.52 | FieldySnuts | 5101 again, which another had open which is not common |
| 23:39.53 | dondelelcaro | !tell brimstone -about nm guide |
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| 23:40.12 | abrotman | !nm |
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| 23:40.13 | dpkg | nm is, like, New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. And also nevermind, or a program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
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| 23:40.28 | SimonRaven | i'm doing an OS fingerprint run in nmap on that IP |
| 23:40.28 | Topslakr | anyone here have freenx up and running in debian? |
| 23:40.51 | FieldySnuts | crap. that system is down already, just like all the others |
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| 23:40.54 | swim | abrotman, so you feel that sarge is up to date enough right now? is testing less broken than sid? useabley? |
| 23:40.57 | FieldySnuts | that one was going to be interesting |
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| 23:41.03 | abrotman | swim: i'm not a new software freak .. |
| 23:41.12 | abrotman | swim: i'm more of the "If it works .. yay" :) |
| 23:41.33 | brimstone | thanks dondelelcaro ! |
| 23:41.36 | FieldySnuts | responding again |
| 23:41.38 | dondelelcaro | brimstone: np |
| 23:41.43 | swim | yah i lean twards that, but new is also good when it works :) |
| 23:41.49 | swim | is testing useable though? |
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| 23:41.54 | moshii | swim: sid works if you know how to fix things |
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| 23:42.03 | FieldySnuts | !info nmap |
| 23:42.09 | FieldySnuts | damnit |
| 23:42.16 | swim | moshii, i dont really have time for how broken sid is these days |
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| 23:42.33 | SimonRaven | new has 2 immediate advantges / disadvantages: one is old bugs get closed, the other new bugs crop up. i call it software murphy's law |
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| 23:43.00 | moshii | swim: hmm I don't think sid is broken, but only run it if you feel you need to |
| 23:43.05 | FieldySnuts | responding faster now, will be able to get an OS scan and service scan in |
| 23:43.07 | swim | is anyone happily running on testing? |
| 23:43.24 | nvz | I am |
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| 23:43.36 | swim | nvz, not very 'broken' ? |
| 23:43.41 | FieldySnuts | owned |
| 23:43.42 | nvz | my synergy station is 1 part Sarge and 1 part Etch |
| 23:43.44 | SimonRaven | FieldySnuts: they all look like exploited winbloze boxen |
| 23:44.00 | SimonRaven | i'm suspecting xp or 2000 boxen |
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| 23:44.13 | abrotman | swim: i don't currently know |
| 23:44.18 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: all windows boxen? |
| 23:44.19 | nvz | swim: no more broken than sarge so far |
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| 23:44.34 | SimonRaven | hmm couldn't possibly be winbloze, uptime is longer than a day ;p |
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| 23:44.50 | swim | nvz, ok cool Ill give it a go then |
| 23:45.06 | nvz | is it just me or are we being slowly join flooded |
| 23:45.10 | FieldySnuts | fidning very similar ports open on another one |
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| 23:45.41 | SimonRaven | FieldySnuts: yeh, they all look very similar. i had 3 OS scans running, all of them almost exactly the same ports open |
| 23:45.42 | swim | ah screw it Ill just use sarge |
| 23:45.52 | moshii | swim: good idea |
| 23:46.27 | SimonRaven | one was .tr, another .ro, and the other was ?? |
| 23:46.39 | FieldySnuts | 5000 tcp is UPnP btw |
| 23:46.45 | abrotman | swim: if you find out later it's too out of date .. you can upgrade |
| 23:46.47 | SimonRaven | uh hunh |
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| 23:46.48 | FieldySnuts | which was vuln recently in 2000 systems (and XP supposedly) |
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| 23:46.54 | Xenguy | SimonRaven: one was in the US |
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| 23:47.13 | FieldySnuts | one has a web server, 86.125.96.137 , blank content |
| 23:47.20 | Xenguy | SimonRaven: also Mexico AFAICT |
| 23:47.23 | SimonRaven | well, i scanned 86.125.96.137 85.101.179.94 and 81.215.111.74 |
| 23:47.27 | swim | yah i dont have the patience for much right now, working on way to many other work related projects :\ |
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| 23:47.52 | SimonRaven | let's do another |
| 23:48.15 | FieldySnuts | OS details: Tektronix Phaser printer |
| 23:48.17 | FieldySnuts | yeah right. |
| 23:48.22 | SimonRaven | hahaha |
| 23:48.27 | swim | any ex-archlinux users in here? debian and archlinux are my current fav distros |
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| 23:48.37 | SimonRaven | fuck that one died |
| 23:48.50 | FieldySnuts | they almost all die on me fast |
| 23:49.03 | SimonRaven | the ones i did didn't |
| 23:49.15 | SimonRaven | (except for 196.206.192.96) |
| 23:49.21 | nvz | all I can say is I hope Kawfeh doesnt have children.. sooner or later he's going to die |
| 23:49.26 | pureone | use p0f to get os ;) |
| 23:49.34 | abrotman | nvz: you think it's him? |
| 23:49.42 | SimonRaven | i use nmap. works fine |
| 23:49.55 | FieldySnuts | p0f is neat however you need a full tcp connection to be worthwhile |
| 23:49.59 | FieldySnuts | i'll stick to SYN stuff |
| 23:50.00 | SimonRaven | same fricking data sources anyway |
| 23:50.20 | nvz | abrotman: who knows I try to pretend the rest of the world has better things to do |
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| 23:50.58 | FieldySnuts | 84.234.110.110 has lots of stuff open, i got on that one early |
| 23:51.01 | SimonRaven | another target ;) |
| 23:51.10 | FieldySnuts | .ro again |
| 23:51.32 | SimonRaven | the dude must be local to eastern europe |
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| 23:52.08 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 23:52.09 | jethro | :) |
| 23:52.13 | dvs | :( |
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| 23:52.22 | SimonRaven | go get 'em, grrl |
| 23:52.24 | FieldySnuts | bleh that one died |
| 23:52.36 | abrotman | how can people be so stupid |
| 23:52.46 | sn00p | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.54 | nvz | wtf do you know about leet |
| 23:52.55 | rudenstam | hmmm.. how can I check what modules are loaded ? |
| 23:53.12 | FieldySnuts | lsmod |
| 23:53.19 | sn00p | its in their nature |
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| 23:53.34 | FieldySnuts | well damn. it died down. |
| 23:53.35 | FieldySnuts | or not. |
| 23:53.36 | sn00p | lsmod |
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| 23:53.58 | FieldySnuts | ftp open on that one among others |
| 23:54.00 | SimonRaven | ah here we go. |
| 23:54.10 | cacja | hi, somebody using DeleGatE? please /msg me |
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| 23:54.17 | FieldySnuts | maybe we can get a damned banner |
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| 23:54.23 | FieldySnuts | blah quit responding already |
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| 23:54.47 | FieldySnuts | http://85.101.4.245/ |
| 23:54.48 | FieldySnuts | curious. |
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| 23:55.15 | FieldySnuts | Hasbani Web Server Error Report |
| 23:55.19 | FieldySnuts | now that's new to me |
| 23:55.39 | moshii | FieldySnuts: that's a router |
| 23:55.49 | FieldySnuts | seems to be a dsl router |
| 23:55.51 | moshii | FieldySnuts: connexant chipset |
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| 23:56.00 | FieldySnuts | ew |
| 23:56.08 | FieldySnuts | so i'm pry hitting that router and not the system behind it |
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| 23:56.36 | moshii | FieldySnuts: you can try on mine ;) |
| 23:56.53 | FieldySnuts | Device type: broadband router |
| 23:56.53 | FieldySnuts | Running: Necomm embedded |
| 23:56.53 | FieldySnuts | OS details: Necomm NB1300 DSL router |
| 23:56.58 | swim | hmm i am not so nuts about sarge's gnome version 2.8 though |
| 23:57.08 | SimonRaven | http://channels.debian.net/paste/583 |
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| 23:57.39 | FieldySnuts | curious. telnet 85.101.4.245 (that router) , session limit reached at least for me |
| 23:57.42 | FieldySnuts | heh how many people are beating up on it |
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| 23:58.11 | FieldySnuts | WindWeb embedded webserver 2.0 (As on NetComm DSL modems; Realm: Home Gateway; Calls itself Hasbani Web Server) |
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| 23:58.31 | abrotman | swim: it's 2.10 i think |
| 23:58.39 | abrotman | swim: i lied |
| 23:58.46 | SimonRaven | starting scan of 85.97.183.76 |
| 23:58.48 | swim | abrotman, ah :) |
| 23:58.50 | FieldySnuts | get off, mine! |
| 23:58.51 | moshii | FieldySnuts: username/password is generally admin/password for those things by the way |
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| 23:59.16 | abrotman | oh goodie .. #d is now hacking people :) |
| 23:59.27 | SimonRaven | they changed it. i tried several variants |
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| 23:59.43 | FieldySnuts | it's the badgers |
| 23:59.47 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 23:59.54 | FieldySnuts | @blaireau SimonRaven |
| 23:59.54 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau serpent! oooh un serpeeeent! |
