| 00:00.08 | cacja | somebody using DeleGate Proxy? |
| 00:00.12 | moshii | they have a tftp server and ftp server which you can flash the firmware with too ;) |
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| 00:00.56 | nvz | abrotman: they are already hacked we are just being nosey |
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| 00:01.09 | SimonRaven | indeed |
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| 00:01.21 | SimonRaven | but i have to go. after the paste from this scan |
| 00:01.35 | SimonRaven | meh, that one's down |
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| 00:01.41 | abrotman | nvz: you mean .. hacking :) |
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| 00:02.00 | nvz | even the google hits for Windweb 2.0 or Hasbani Web Server are strange |
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| 00:02.05 | FieldySnuts | here we go again |
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| 00:02.15 | FieldySnuts | they're getting smart (nick changes) |
| 00:02.28 | steve_ | hey- how do i config grub |
| 00:02.33 | dvs | FieldySnuts: They're IP doesn't change though |
| 00:02.46 | FieldySnuts | still. that fools most dummies </troll> |
| 00:02.48 | abrotman | steve_: /usr/share/doc/grub/* |
| 00:02.57 | steve_ | huh? |
| 00:03.04 | rudenstam | FieldySnuts: thnx |
| 00:03.06 | steve_ | whats the config file? |
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| 00:03.28 | SimonRaven | in /boot/grub, menu.lst. but you'd know that from RTFM ;) |
| 00:03.39 | nvz | I am wondering what the hell their purpose is. seems to be like they are obviously exploiting multiple systems but why doing something so useless with them. there has to be more going on than what we are seeing |
| 00:03.44 | steve_ | !mac dre |
| 00:03.49 | steve_ | !macdre |
| 00:03.51 | FieldySnuts | probably, which is why i want to get into one |
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| 00:04.10 | cacja | which is the channel to go to ask some proxy server questions? eh?? |
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| 00:04.16 | FieldySnuts | squid proxy? or socks proxy? |
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| 00:04.27 | cacja | my problem is with delegate |
| 00:04.34 | swim | aww darn i may need to use sid afterall to beable to get gnome 2.10 easily |
| 00:04.35 | cacja | but i could use another if can't fix it :D |
| 00:04.36 | FieldySnuts | what is it? |
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| 00:04.49 | cacja | a proxy server with multiple uses |
| 00:04.55 | cacja | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.00 | FieldySnuts | i don't know |
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| 00:05.03 | GoatRoby | with the sarge netinstall of debian 3.1: when viewing any man pages i can only use the 'f' key to go forward a page... no other key works to do anything else... i.e. ctrl+f and ctrl+b used to go forward and back a page... j, k used to go up and down a line... what happened to these keys? |
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| 00:05.16 | moshii | swim: pin sid into your system.. you don't have to go 100% |
| 00:05.20 | cacja | can you recommend any web caching proxy taht's not squid? |
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| 00:05.27 | SimonRaven | GoatRoby: install less. you can use pgdown / pgup |
| 00:05.28 | steve_ | hey- how do i change the resolution of my tty0? |
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| 00:05.33 | swim | moshii, pin? |
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| 00:05.37 | steve_ | er tty1 |
| 00:05.40 | GoatRoby | SimonRaven: ah i see, stupid of me, thank you |
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| 00:05.54 | cacja | can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:05.56 | mfrisch | GoatRoby it can use any pager |
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| 00:06.04 | moshii | swim: yeah, add sid to your sources and change you apt pinning to stop sid packages being used automatically |
| 00:06.08 | FieldySnuts | i don't even know of any |
| 00:06.09 | abrotman | cacja: REPEAT AGAIN |
| 00:06.17 | GoatRoby | mfrisch: i see |
| 00:06.18 | SimonRaven | GTG later |
| 00:06.19 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:06.31 | abrotman | cacja: REPEAT AGAIN |
| 00:06.33 | cacja | do you want me to repeat it again? |
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| 00:06.35 | steve_ | hey- how do i change the resolution of my tty1? |
| 00:06.38 | FieldySnuts | ~annoy cacja |
| 00:06.45 | cacja | it will be easier to write a script to type it for me |
| 00:06.45 | FieldySnuts | :/ |
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| 00:06.51 | swim | moshii, could i simply add the sid sources, install gnome 2.10 , and then comment it out of sources.list? |
| 00:06.52 | cacja | but you asked for it abrotman... |
| 00:06.52 | abrotman | !tell cacja about search |
| 00:06.55 | abrotman | moron |
| 00:06.57 | moshii | steve_: do you want to configure your framebuffer? |
| 00:06.59 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
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| 00:07.05 | dvs | boom! |
| 00:07.05 | jethro | hh |
| 00:07.06 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.06 | FieldySnuts | uh +q please |
| 00:07.07 | jethro | !lart cacja |
| 00:07.08 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.10 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.13 | moshii | swim: you could, but it's not a good idea |
| 00:07.14 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.14 | mfrisch | GoatRoby edit /etc/security/pam_env.conf I use most |
| 00:07.16 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.18 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.18 | FieldySnuts | dondelelcaro: can we get cacja +q (or helix ) |
| 00:07.20 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.22 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.24 | cacja | abrotman, can you recommend any web caching proxy besides squid? |
| 00:07.24 | abrotman | fucking moron |
| 00:07.24 | jethro | cacja: stop that |
| 00:07.25 | steve_ | moshii: i dont know?!?! |
| 00:07.25 | *** mode/#debian [+b %cacja!*@*] by Md |
| 00:07.28 | FieldySnuts | thanks |
| 00:07.34 | FieldySnuts | asshat. |
| 00:07.35 | shmho | good |
| 00:07.40 | moshii | swim: you can run part sid part stable etc, google up apt pinning |
| 00:07.43 | green_earz | haa its wallpaper |
| 00:07.49 | dvs | who the heck is Md? |
| 00:07.58 | abrotman | dvs: staff |
| 00:08.02 | swim | moshii, and that will be stabler than running just sid? |
| 00:08.06 | Md | dvs: freenode staff, packager of many things on your system |
| 00:08.08 | dvs | Xenguy: It's Sunday, somewhere in the world |
| 00:08.08 | nvz | dvs: I was thinking the same thing |
| 00:08.17 | GoatRoby | mfrisch: nice thanks |
| 00:08.17 | irvined | hello, i have a problem getting the qla2x00 driver to compile using qla2x00-source and linux-source-2.6.12, the instructions in usr/share/doc/qla2x00-source don't appear to be correct for 2.6 although i believe it is supported |
| 00:08.21 | steve_ | moshii: i dont know?!?! what is the frame buffer? i just want to increase the resolution of my virtual terminals |
| 00:08.28 | steve_ | to like 1280x960 or something |
| 00:08.33 | dvs | Md: Oh. Ok. Thanks doc. |
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| 00:08.42 | moshii | steve_: when you say tty1 you mean the text based interface thingy sitting on your monitor yeah? |
| 00:08.46 | Xenguy | dvs: heh (I'm checing moon phase too ;-) |
| 00:08.48 | steve_ | yeah |
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| 00:09.02 | steve_ | the thing when i press ctrl+atl+F1 |
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| 00:09.20 | steve_ | moshii: the thing when i press ctrl+atl+F1 |
| 00:09.21 | Xenguy | dvs: hrm, no corelation -> The Moon is Waning Crescent (46% of Full) |
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| 00:09.25 | irvined | if i run update-qla2x00 i get an error,i patched the script so it doesnt fail if the directory it wants to delete doesnt exist, and it untars the source correctly, but it doesnt have any options in .config for qla driver, I can't seem to find any way of actually building the modules, can anybody help? |
| 00:09.32 | moshii | swim: well, you could take your pick of sid packages but run stable for everything else. so you wouldn't be messed up by major changes as much |
| 00:10.06 | moshii | steve_: google framebuffer resolution, maybe add grub or lilo depending on what you use |
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| 00:10.58 | stew | moshii: bad idea |
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| 00:11.08 | moshii | stew: why exactly? |
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| 00:11.23 | stew | moshii: mixing sid and stable is becoming an increasingly bad idea, esp with the c++ abi change and a new libc6 |
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| 00:11.38 | FieldySnuts | heh. |
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| 00:11.44 | SimonRaven | wee |
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| 00:12.09 | moshii | stew: I suppose, at other times it isn't a problem though |
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| 00:12.29 | moshii | stew: half debian half ubuntu systems work too |
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| 00:12.44 | Morti | For varying values of "work". |
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| 00:13.13 | moshii | Morti: pin ubuntu so that it doesn't take over and you don't have a problem |
| 00:13.18 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 3389/tcp on 62.162.236.4 |
| 00:13.30 | FieldySnuts | hrm. ms terminal services. rdesktop -a 15 Discovered open port 3389/tcp on 62.162.236.4 |
| 00:13.47 | FieldySnuts | way too slow to actually respond, however |
| 00:13.52 | FieldySnuts | wait i got it |
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| 00:14.06 | Morti | Incidentally, anyone reckon there are advantages to using Debian over Ubuntu as a desktop OS? |
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| 00:14.12 | FieldySnuts | it's an XP system, no domain or workgroup |
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| 00:14.21 | FieldySnuts | xp pro |
| 00:14.37 | Morti | The only one I can think of is that the logo looks cooler. |
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| 00:14.49 | rudenstam | how does one check the version of a module ? |
| 00:14.55 | FieldySnuts | modinfo |
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| 00:15.00 | mfrisch | Morti logo..? |
| 00:15.05 | smo_ | gcc version: version gcc 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-7) Kernel compiler: gcc version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-6) |
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| 00:15.05 | smo_ | [!] Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions..... how can i do ??? |
| 00:15.18 | smo_ | can t find this 3.3.6-6 version |
| 00:15.20 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 59/tcp on 62.162.236.4 |
| 00:15.26 | FieldySnuts | aka mirc's dcc server or some BS |
| 00:15.28 | Morti | Debian logo > Ubuntu logo. |
| 00:15.40 | Morti | That's the only way in which I can think that Debian makes a better desktop OS than Ubuntu. |
| 00:15.54 | jethro | !troll Morti |
| 00:16.15 | Morti | I'm asking a question, why is Debian better than Ubuntu for the desktop? |
| 00:16.26 | mfrisch | Morti is it the boot-logo w/progress bar? |
| 00:16.30 | moshii | Morti: the non-major packages in ubuntu are older than debian's aren't they? |
| 00:16.36 | jethro | what sort of answer would you expect in #debian ? |
| 00:16.42 | ncp | Morti: debian is to slow with new updates |
| 00:16.53 | Morti | jethro: "Debian is better", ideally with an explanation of why. |
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| 00:17.02 | Md | Morti: except, it's not |
| 00:17.04 | dondelelcaro | !tell Morti about why debian |
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| 00:17.21 | Morti | Reason being my company is going to start selling Linux laptops to people and the choice is between Ubuntu and Debian. |
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| 00:17.31 | jethro | Morti: this is a support channel, not a troll channel. you're not going to have a useful answer to this question in #debian |
| 00:17.46 | Morti | Figured I might as well start a discussion. |
| 00:17.52 | Morti | Not a lot else going on in here. |
| 00:17.57 | meneg | ive noticed 'man' doesn't let me to scroll up and down with the arrow keys, does anyone know how to configure it, 'man man' lost me |
| 00:18.02 | ncp | Morti: search google "ubuntu vs debian" |
| 00:18.06 | mfrisch | Morti Debian period. |
| 00:18.06 | Morti | meneg: apt-get install less |
| 00:18.09 | jethro | meneg: apt-get install less |
| 00:18.13 | meneg | thanks both |
| 00:18.17 | moshii | Morti: if I sold linux laptops, I'd just let the buyer install what they want |
| 00:18.29 | dondelelcaro | Morti: the differences are far more profound; If you plan on supporting the OS, Debian is probably the better choice. If you just want to send the users on there way, or don't plan on supporting the OS at all, you may go for Ubuntu. |
| 00:18.34 | Morti | We don't expect our buyers to be that PC literate, they'd end up with Windows on. |
| 00:18.37 | meneg | i was expecting it was a pack missing after a new install:p |
| 00:18.53 | moshii | Morti: maybe Suse is more suitable then |
| 00:19.10 | dondelelcaro | blech |
| 00:19.19 | moshii | Morti: i.e installing a printer, press printer icon, done |
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| 00:19.44 | moshii | dondelelcaro: yep, but anyone can get on and use it |
| 00:19.58 | Morti | Maybe, I quite like SUSE. But whenever I'm using it I miss the Debian way of doing certain things and apt. |
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| 00:20.33 | dondelelcaro | moshii: same thing with Debian. That's primarily a function of the applications. |
| 00:20.35 | Md | I suggest you make #debian +r, because I'm going away soon |
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| 00:21.02 | moshii | Morti: I install linux of friends machines when they get fed up with XP, debian sounds like a good idea until you've spent 12+ hours installing it only for them to format the next day |
| 00:21.09 | dondelelcaro | Md: we've discussed it; the best solution is for users to go +E. |
| 00:21.18 | Morti | True. |
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| 00:21.39 | Morti | Debian is fantastic as a server OS or a desktop for people who know completely what they're doing. |
| 00:21.40 | meneg | what does +E do btw? |
| 00:21.40 | dondelelcaro | (but if it starts being a huge problem, we may go +r again) |
| 00:21.47 | dondelelcaro | !tell meneg -about fn modes |
| 00:21.56 | Morti | !fn modes |
| 00:21.56 | dpkg | somebody said umodes was http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 00:22.03 | ncp | Morti: thats true :P |
| 00:22.06 | meneg | it'd be shorter to write what it does |
| 00:22.07 | meneg | :p |
| 00:22.12 | swim | anyone here run gnome on sarge? |
| 00:22.15 | abrotman | meneg: or you could .. read ? :) |
| 00:22.17 | abrotman | swim: i am |
| 00:22.26 | sparra | sarge |
| 00:22.27 | meneg | or i could be smart as you |
| 00:22.28 | swim | how do you find 2.8.1? good enough? new enough? |
| 00:22.47 | abrotman | swim: i said before .. i'm not a "shiny software" person .. works fine for me :) |
| 00:22.56 | abrotman | though .. i used to use blackbox |
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| 00:23.14 | moshii | swim: if you want the newest gnome, move to sid or use backports.. otherwise leave well enough alone |
| 00:23.24 | swim | okay then ill just give sarge a shot for awhile |
| 00:23.29 | swim | sorry to go on |
| 00:24.03 | moshii | swim: is one new feature worth hours of pain, that's the choice you need to make ;) |
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| 00:24.13 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:24.18 | phretor | hi folks |
| 00:24.22 | dondelelcaro | dvs: you may need to /mode dvs +E |
| 00:24.22 | abrotman | meneg: fyi .. don't msg people without permission :) |
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| 00:24.31 | Md | 'w m_36_ |
| 00:24.42 | abrotman | meneg: short description .. unregistered users can't msg you |
| 00:24.52 | dvs | dondelelcaro: Hey! That works! Thank! Will it remain set that way? |
| 00:25.02 | phretor | how about xfree86->x.org? |
| 00:25.03 | mfrisch | how do you find your ip address outside of your ISP's firewall |
| 00:25.09 | nvz | its /umode for me |
| 00:25.11 | dondelelcaro | dvs: as long as you stay connected |
| 00:25.19 | green_earz | Morti: i install debian for my next door naibor, after xp got killed. the box is up and runing each day. and the family have nights of trying the kill the debian install. but on luck. for a home usre its a good chose. reliable and totaly free. |
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| 00:25.24 | ncp | mfrisch: myip.com |
| 00:25.26 | dondelelcaro | dvs: beyond that it's client dependent how you set it |
| 00:25.27 | dvs | dondelelcaro: Aw s*#t. I was afraid of that |
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| 00:25.37 | smo_ | i have gcc 3.3.6-7 i need 3.3.6-6 to compil a module how can i do?? |
| 00:25.39 | swim | moshii, for the most part probably not... but what i wonder is wether debian is doing things a bit incorrectly, because shouldnt we *NIX users be using the lastest stable apps our developers put out for us? |
| 00:26.01 | nvz | the old ass 2.1gb hd in this pc sounds terrible |
| 00:26.02 | abrotman | swim: then you misunderstand the meaning of debian/stable |
| 00:26.02 | Morti | Unstable's far more fun. |
| 00:26.04 | moshii | swim: latest doesn't always equal best or more stable though |
| 00:26.10 | dondelelcaro | swim: the issue is that upstream developers rarely actually release stable software. |
| 00:26.13 | phretor | does someone succeded in migrating from XFree86 to X.org? |
| 00:26.19 | dondelelcaro | phretor: lots of people have. |
| 00:26.30 | meneg | what's the pack that gives wmaker's deb menu? |
| 00:26.47 | moshii | swim: if you want to fly by the seat of your pants try gentoo |
| 00:26.51 | moshii | meneg: menu |
| 00:26.53 | abrotman | meneg: menu |
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| 00:26.59 | meneg | chears |
| 00:27.05 | meneg | s/ea/ee |
| 00:27.05 | phretor | dondelelcaro: is that documented somewhere? I mean, the migration plus needed documentation |
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| 00:27.18 | swim | no I dont really, I was just curious |
| 00:27.18 | phretor | dondelelcaro: don't redirect me to the X.org website |
| 00:27.43 | dondelelcaro | phretor: the migration happens by running "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;" (with a possible apt-get install xserver-xorg). That's it. |
| 00:27.44 | abrotman | phretor: you're going to compile it yourself? |
| 00:27.52 | abrotman | phretor: you're on sarge? |
| 00:28.21 | phretor | abrotman: yes, my apt.sources points to the unstable but I'm not going to compile |
| 00:28.22 | sn00p | How come my mp3 player doesn't show up in dmesg? |
| 00:28.28 | moshii | swim: you can always run another distro inside your debian stable if you want to test stuff |
| 00:28.31 | abrotman | phretor: sarge is not unstable |
| 00:28.40 | phretor | abrotman: lemme check |
| 00:29.03 | rac | please, I would like to get some tests for my web server |
| 00:29.11 | abrotman | some tests ? |
| 00:29.12 | swim | moshii, well at the moment i think ill just give sarge a good go, and if i cant handle the older apps then Ill either go to slackware, or archlinux probably |
| 00:29.20 | rac | 2 tests |
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| 00:29.29 | abrotman | rac: tests for what ? |
| 00:29.42 | phretor | abrotman: APT points to unstable |
| 00:29.42 | rac | http://formath.homelinux.org:3000 |
| 00:29.51 | abrotman | phretor: then xorg is already available to you |
| 00:29.54 | rixth | My power provider _really_ needs to get its shit together (and I should get a UPS) I just lost my third HDD in 2 months |
| 00:29.57 | rixth | an UPS* |
| 00:30.03 | abrotman | phretor: apt-get install xserver-xorg |
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| 00:30.05 | FieldySnuts | and you didn't get a UPS the first time? |
| 00:30.07 | moshii | swim: packages don't have to be offical by the way .. the power of debian is that it can handle random packages without getting too badly messed up |
| 00:30.08 | phretor | abrotman: no more? |
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| 00:30.10 | abrotman | rac: to test what? |
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| 00:30.23 | eutopia | what exactly is the "Base System"? |
| 00:30.26 | abrotman | phretor: that's what dondelelcaro said .. apt-get update;apt-get upgrade;apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 00:30.29 | rixth | FieldySnuts, I'm a slow learner. Plus they are several hundred dollars |
| 00:30.29 | FieldySnuts | get one with AVR (automatic voltage regulation), more expensive but VERY worth it. i'm in the same situation, horrid powe rprovider |
| 00:30.36 | phretor | abrotman: do I need to change configuration stuff? |
| 00:30.38 | rac | the url http://formath.homelinux.org:3000 |
| 00:30.40 | FieldySnuts | or don't and keep learning th ehard way |
| 00:30.44 | abrotman | phretor: i don't use it .. no idea |
| 00:30.50 | rac | and tell what u see |
| 00:30.51 | moshii | eutopia: enough to boot and not much else |
| 00:30.57 | swim | moshii, random packages? are there some repos that have well made unofficial stuff? |
| 00:31.00 | phretor | abrotman: gonna try and let you know |
| 00:31.15 | abrotman | swim: yes |
| 00:31.19 | moshii | swim: yeah, and there is experimental if you want to be really hardcore |
| 00:31.21 | rixth | FieldySnuts, getting one is next on my shopping list |
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| 00:31.32 | dondelelcaro | swim: the newest stuff is always in unstable, and it's almost always better packaged than the unofficial stuff. Regardless, when you're ready for it, you'll know how to get it. |
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| 00:31.39 | phretor | abrotman: just a side question. I just dist-upgraded: Why do a lot of package (actually, all of 'em) cannot be authenticated? |
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| 00:31.47 | jobezone | swim: http://www.apt-get.org has a bunch of them, although I don't use them |
| 00:31.47 | phretor | abrotman: is that because I'm on unstable? |
| 00:31.47 | abrotman | phretor: no idea .... |
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| 00:32.00 | swim | oh i allways thought that it would pretty much break stable to install anything but stable on it |
| 00:32.05 | tuomas_ | maybe it's my time to go zZzz |
| 00:32.11 | tuomas_ | it's 3 am |
| 00:32.20 | jethro | !beer me |
| 00:32.25 | jobezone | 3:30 |
| 00:32.25 | rac | and the adress http://nature-auvergne.homelinux.org |
| 00:32.31 | jobezone | 3:38? |
| 00:32.31 | phretor | abrotman: it seems a change to apts behavior: http://lists.debian.org/deity/2005/06/msg00246.html |
| 00:32.36 | rac | and tell me what you see |
| 00:33.00 | abrotman | phretor: that doesn't help me ither |
| 00:33.03 | Morti | Anyone know if XOrg is likely to run any quicker than XF86 on older hardware? |
| 00:33.04 | jethro | rac: I can see the same using both urls |
| 00:33.19 | swim | nah ive got to remmember the reason im moving back from freebsd :) to get away from spending time on my software |
| 00:33.25 | swim | stable it is |
| 00:33.26 | eutopia | moshii: what should I look for if I want to make sure everything is up to date with security files and programs? how can I update any security updates? |
| 00:33.40 | abrotman | !dsa |
| 00:33.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dsa is Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 00:33.42 | moshii | rac: there's a thing called "the-cloak" or something you can use to test this stuff yourself, google it |
| 00:33.58 | phretor | abrotman: probly you got to be on an unstable distribution in order to experience this feature |
| 00:33.58 | rac | that is FORMATH |
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| 00:34.00 | rac | ? |
| 00:34.17 | jethro | rac: yes |
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| 00:34.27 | abrotman | phretor: "feature" .. maybe |
| 00:34.28 | moshii | eutopia: if you're running stable, you should use the security sources, and maybe watch the security list |
| 00:34.32 | rac | and NATURE-AUVERGNE |
| 00:34.38 | rac | ? |
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| 00:35.01 | moshii | eutopia: apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade will keep your system up-to-date |
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| 00:35.08 | phretor | abrotman: "that's not a but, it's a feature" does it remind you something? :-) |
| 00:35.14 | abrotman | sarge doesn't need dist-upgrade |
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| 00:35.17 | jethro | rac: both give the same result. if you're doing vhosts and intend to serve different contents, it's not working |
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| 00:35.30 | rac | ok jethro |
| 00:35.34 | rac | thanks |
| 00:35.39 | jethro | you're welcome rac |
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| 00:36.01 | moshii | abrotman: just upgrade then? |
| 00:36.04 | abrotman | either they're getting klined .. or they stopped msg'ing |
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| 00:37.16 | eutopia | moshii: I diodnt ask that! I asked WHAT FILES exactly shall I update to keep system up todate for security purposeds! dist-upgrade installes stuff thats not even related to security! |
| 00:37.35 | eutopia | moshii: what security sources, and maybe watch the security list? |
| 00:37.46 | abrotman | !dsa |
| 00:37.47 | jethro | eutopia: /msg dpkg security |
| 00:37.47 | dpkg | it has been said that dsa is Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 00:37.49 | eutopia | moshii: what security sources, and security list? |
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| 00:38.00 | eutopia | jethro: ok |
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| 00:38.13 | abrotman | hrm .. i can't remember my account number .. this could be bad |
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| 00:39.14 | phretor | does anyone of you use(d) Mac OS X? |
| 00:39.51 | jethro | !polls |
| 00:39.51 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 00:40.15 | abrotman | oh . i use Y |
| 00:40.23 | jethro | why?! |
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| 00:40.29 | abrotman | because it's better than X |
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| 00:40.32 | jethro | heh |
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| 00:41.17 | test | hi, does someone know which module i need to load for the network card on a hp9000 b2000? |
| 00:41.28 | sn00p | How do I mount my mp3 player it is usb but dmesg reads it as scsi? |
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| 00:41.54 | moshii | sn00p: scsi is right |
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| 00:42.04 | sn00p | moshii: how do I mount it |
| 00:42.07 | test | sn00p, of course, mount /dev/sdb /mnt/mp3player |
| 00:42.08 | moshii | sn00p: mount /dev/sda1 or something somewhere and enjoy |
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| 00:42.09 | smo_ | anyone have gcc-3.3_1%3a3.3.6-6_i386.deb and gcc-3.3-base_1%3a3.3.6-6_i386.deb in his archives?? |
| 00:42.10 | test | for example |
| 00:42.18 | abrotman | sn00p: look in dmesg .. where does it put it .. /dev/sda ? |
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| 00:42.23 | phretor | ok, if someone of you (have) use(d) knows that it has a good utility for switching from a network location to another: It manages a lot of user-defined profiles and network interfaces are automagically loaded their drivers and (if)config(urated). Does something similar exists (without a GUI) for debian? |
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| 00:42.32 | asjdkfh | !java |
| 00:42.32 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive, consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). |
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| 00:42.47 | jethro | !tell phretor -about search |
| 00:42.49 | abrotman | phretor: there are a few |
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| 00:43.03 | abrotman | !tell asjdkfh about install java |
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| 00:43.10 | jethro | phretor: one of them is netenv, use apt-cache to find others |
| 00:43.15 | abrotman | what . are the bots using song names? |
| 00:43.19 | sn00p | moshii: what file system type? |
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| 00:43.38 | test | does someone know which module i need to load for the network card on a hp9000 b2000? |
| 00:43.39 | abrotman | sn00p: vfat usually |
| 00:43.40 | aeacides | could someone give me a clue how to pick an X display mode which doesn't leave part of the window off the screen? |
| 00:43.43 | moshii | sn00p: that would depend on what your player uses .. vfat maybe |
| 00:43.47 | test | afaik it's a DECnet card |
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| 00:43.53 | abrotman | aeacides: adjust your monitor ? |
| 00:43.56 | FieldySnuts | ~hire abrotman |
| 00:43.59 | apt | ACTION hires abrotman along with kadigibox as a NSA Headquarters Janitorial Staff Supervisor, at 2 euros/hour to start |
| 00:44.03 | aeacides | abrotman: I don't understand |
| 00:44.06 | abrotman | test: one of tue tulips possible |
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| 00:44.15 | FieldySnuts | heh hired on the cheap |
| 00:44.18 | sn00p | moshii: Its RCA Mp3 Player Lyra but I used msdos FS it worked in freebsd but I get error in debian |
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| 00:44.29 | test | abrotman i tried the tulip driver, but it doesn't work |
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| 00:44.30 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: heh. for a good reason |
| 00:44.35 | dvs | Yuck! |
| 00:44.36 | FieldySnuts | risky using it |
| 00:44.42 | abrotman | test: which kernel ? |
| 00:44.59 | abrotman | they finally started again |
| 00:45.00 | dvs | Every Lyra I own eventually messed up by refusing to play any songs. |
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| 00:45.16 | test | abrotman, 2.6.12-r2-gentoo-hppa32 |
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| 00:45.24 | phretor | I asked dpkg for lilo->grub but the third step is not clear. What does it means "so both postinst_hook and postrm_hook are equal to /sbin/update-grub"? |
| 00:45.25 | jethro | test: you're using gentoo? |
| 00:45.27 | abrotman | test: wrong channel .. #gentoo is down the alphabet |
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| 00:45.43 | test | i know, but #gentoo-hppa is dead |
| 00:45.44 | sn00p | moshii: I see error |
| 00:45.49 | abrotman | so ask #gentoo |
| 00:45.53 | jethro | test: /msg dpkg they don't know |
| 00:45.54 | test | they are sleeping or making party or whatever |
| 00:46.03 | abrotman | or ask #linux |
| 00:46.07 | moshii | sn00p: what does it say? |
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| 00:46.19 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: they don't know? |
| 00:46.20 | ravenbird | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 00:46.25 | abrotman | heheh |
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| 00:46.26 | jethro | hah |
| 00:46.32 | jethro | ravenbird has the original one |
| 00:46.33 | ravenbird | jethro: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 00:46.37 | FieldySnuts | better than the politically corrected version dpkg has... |
| 00:46.37 | jethro | stfu ravenbird |
| 00:46.40 | FieldySnuts | quite a lame change, by the way |
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| 00:47.09 | AlverGone | What the heck is up with those onjoin /msg 'es. |
| 00:47.14 | shmho | hm |
| 00:47.15 | shmho | yeah |
| 00:47.19 | sn00p | moshii: your msg |
| 00:47.20 | shmho | what's the problem? |
| 00:47.24 | FieldySnuts | topic |
| 00:47.26 | jethro | AlverGone: /topic use /umode +E |
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| 00:47.39 | shmho | why there say to me nothing? hm |
| 00:47.42 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: it's been going on all day, some sort of windows zombie botnet |
| 00:47.47 | FieldySnuts | largely subsided |
| 00:47.52 | abrotman | and they're not onjoin .. |
| 00:47.54 | AlverGone | Ah, I see. Hadn't noticed any of it until I joined here. |
| 00:47.55 | moshii | sn00p: does it still work in freebsd? |
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| 00:47.57 | FieldySnuts | s/all\ day/the\ past\ four\ hours/ |
| 00:48.02 | jethro | it's not even on join, I'm getting /msgs and didn't /cycle for a while |
| 00:48.03 | abrotman | AlverGone: see all the people come and go? |
| 00:48.11 | sn00p | moshii: I dont have freebsd no more but it worked |
| 00:48.12 | AlverGone | abrotman: yes, it's somewhat obvious |
| 00:48.13 | phretor | ok, I solved. But how do I check if my grub installation will allow me to boot (before rebooting)? |
| 00:48.13 | abrotman | ok .. now they stop .. of course |
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| 00:48.22 | FieldySnuts | theres one |
| 00:48.28 | *** part/#debian melda (n=melisa@81.213.129.144) |
| 00:48.29 | FieldySnuts | seen these ips enough to know |
| 00:48.33 | mfrisch | how do you find your ip address outside of your ISP's firewall |
| 00:48.36 | jethro | FieldySnuts: you scared it |
| 00:48.38 | FieldySnuts | they jsut do that. join, part. join, part. blah blah |
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| 00:48.51 | FieldySnuts | someone claimed they attempt to send windows users files via dcc, which spreads them |
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| 00:48.55 | dvs | mfrisch: traceroute? |
| 00:48.55 | FieldySnuts | theres a few more |
| 00:48.59 | FieldySnuts | so, here we go again. |
| 00:49.03 | AlverGone | FieldySnuts: what does the +E do? Wouldn't want to block any other people. |
| 00:49.03 | RichiH | FieldySnuts, abrotman: what system do they spam after? |
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| 00:49.09 | mfrisch | dvs let me try |
| 00:49.15 | FieldySnuts | AlverGone: unidentified u sers cannot message you |
| 00:49.16 | *** part/#debian cam_p (n=barby_ba@210.5.96.215) |
| 00:49.21 | abrotman | RichiH: they think win32 xchat or mirc .. apparently try to pass you a file |
| 00:49.21 | jethro | AlverGone: /msg dpkg fn modes |
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| 00:49.23 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: sorry, I don't understand what you mean |
| 00:49.26 | AlverGone | I see... thanks |
| 00:49.27 | moshii | sn00p: formatting it might solve the problem |
| 00:49.39 | *** part/#debian ThRiLL (n=pilot22@203.215.99.248) |
| 00:49.43 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: Xi-Phazor seemed to have a lot of information on them |
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| 00:49.49 | sn00p | moshii: i got information on there |
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| 00:49.56 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: it's not just in #debian, #gentoo got hammered earlier, until they set chanmode +r |
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| 00:50.14 | FieldySnuts | eyah it's happening again |
| 00:50.18 | FieldySnuts | they just join, leave |
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| 00:50.19 | mfrisch | dvs Thats the ticket! |
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| 00:50.25 | dvs | mfrisch: awesome |
| 00:50.26 | moshii | sn00p: plug it into someone elses windows box and copy it all off before you kill it then ;) |
| 00:50.29 | FieldySnuts | the pace gets furious sometimes, it's highly annoying |
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| 00:50.37 | dvs | mfrisch: Where's Nancy? ;-) |
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| 00:50.46 | sn00p | Has anybody installed vmware on debian 2.4.27? |
| 00:50.48 | dondelelcaro | you can always /ignore #debian JOINS PARTS QUITS |
| 00:50.57 | FieldySnuts | probably. but then we can't bitch :) |
| 00:50.59 | FieldySnuts | </troll> |
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| 00:51.06 | FieldySnuts | anyway i was just filling in RichiH |
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| 00:51.31 | FieldySnuts | me and SimonRaven scanned a bunch of them (at our own risk, we know that's controversial), all windows systems |
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| 00:51.41 | FieldySnuts | one of them had terminal services, and was a win xp home system |
| 00:51.44 | moshii | they're changing nicks |
| 00:51.55 | FieldySnuts | sorry not home, professional |
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| 00:52.02 | RichiH | ok, i hope i klined all of them |
| 00:52.07 | FieldySnuts | good luck. |
| 00:52.15 | FieldySnuts | md was sitting here doing that for like an hour, and they just kept coming |
| 00:52.16 | pureone | what are they trying to do? |
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| 00:52.23 | abrotman | pureone: infect you |
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| 00:52.32 | RichiH | grr, next one |
| 00:52.38 | abrotman | yeah .. kill meff! |
| 00:52.43 | FieldySnuts | heh no |
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| 00:52.49 | FieldySnuts | theres one, i bet |
| 00:52.50 | abrotman | that's one! |
| 00:52.50 | pureone | they havent tryed dcc or anything |
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| 00:52.55 | abrotman | he already got me 5 minutes ago |
| 00:53.05 | abrotman | RichiH: if you want .. i can feed them to you :) |
| 00:53.09 | FieldySnuts | pureone: you'd have to ask Xi-Phazor about that, he's the one who claimed it dcc sent files to windows systems, which has the payload |
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| 00:53.29 | meff | uhmm |
| 00:53.29 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i'm not sure .. i was on win32 xchat earlier .. noone attempted a DCC with anything |
| 00:53.30 | FieldySnuts | i want that damn file |
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| 00:53.34 | meff | im innocent :) |
| 00:53.46 | dvs | You're a bot! |
| 00:53.51 | dvs | Get'em! |
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| 00:54.25 | RichiH | abrotman: sure |
| 00:54.31 | Frankablu | adbot just pm'ed me with a blank message |
| 00:54.34 | abrotman | bah |
| 00:54.42 | FieldySnuts | RichiH: anyway ask Xi-Phazor for more info on the dcc file sending bit, nobody else seems to have seen that |
| 00:54.52 | phretor | grub does not need nothing more after having edited the menu.lst, isn't it? |
| 00:54.55 | pureone | wouldnt be very smart to try and infect linux users with win32 executables..... unless they thought people would run it in wine.... |
| 00:54.57 | abrotman | n=fena@210.5.96.215 |
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| 00:55.03 | FieldySnuts | there's another |
| 00:55.05 | abrotman | n=pelinsu^@203.215.95.133 |
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| 00:55.19 | FieldySnuts | and another |
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| 00:55.19 | phretor | I mean, it's not like lilo which needed a "lilo" before rebooting. True? |
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| 00:55.34 | jethro | FieldySnuts: afaict Xi-Phazor didn't get the file, just a dcc send request (as he's behind nat, and can't dcc as per what he said) |
| 00:55.39 | FieldySnuts | ah. darn. |
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| 00:55.41 | dvs | phretor: update-grub |
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| 00:56.02 | moshii | dvs: that re-writes the menu.lst though doesn't it? |
| 00:56.02 | dvs | phretor: unless you set up make-kpkg to run it for you. |
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| 00:56.12 | dvs | moshii: yes |
| 00:56.16 | aeacides | so normal debian users do not use xorg yet? |
| 00:56.28 | phretor | I'm being spammed by single message queries |
| 00:56.31 | jethro | aeacides: for some values of "normal" |
| 00:56.33 | FieldySnuts | topic, please |
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| 00:56.37 | dvs | phretor: /topic |
| 00:56.44 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 21/tcp on 81.196.56.129 |
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| 00:56.58 | FieldySnuts | 179 as well. that's an odd number |
| 00:57.04 | abrotman | RichiH: any of those geceay ones .. are bots |
| 00:57.06 | FieldySnuts | 199 too |
| 00:57.09 | moshii | dvs: so you don't need to run it if you've changed menu.lst yourself really |
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| 00:57.19 | aeacides | i forgot how much i hated XF86Config |
| 00:57.19 | drew | I am having problems with sound. Whenever I play movies or music, it always plays the file, but I NEVER get any sound. Can anyone help? |
| 00:57.20 | RichiH | abrotman: ? |
| 00:57.23 | FieldySnuts | ProFTPD 1.2.9 Server |
| 00:57.26 | abrotman | RichiH: on the part/join |
| 00:57.26 | dvs | moshii: Yeah, you do. |
| 00:57.27 | FieldySnuts | that's different |
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| 00:57.31 | abrotman | --> __Nur (n=__geceay@81.196.56.129) |
| 00:57.32 | abrotman | etc |
| 00:57.34 | FieldySnuts | only one i've scanned which appears not to be windows |
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| 00:57.44 | jethro | FieldySnuts: I've seen a gentoo box earlier |
| 00:57.44 | FieldySnuts | oh well maybe i mis-fired |
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| 00:58.01 | FieldySnuts | actually. it might be a nat |
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| 00:58.19 | FieldySnuts | Uptime 7.401 days (since Fri Aug 19 11:20:41 2005) |
| 00:58.20 | *** part/#debian BebeK (n=sevenler@p50919F7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:58.21 | FieldySnuts | heh... nmap is scary |
| 00:58.28 | abrotman | RichiH: so are the sevenler ones |
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| 00:58.52 | RichiH | abrotman: i don't get you |
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| 00:59.03 | abrotman | RichiH: --> BebeK (n=sevenler@p50919F7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:59.12 | nvz | I was browsing IMDB like I have been doing a lot lately and found one of the worst websites I ever seen. |
| 00:59.25 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.26 | RichiH | but i am slightly drunk, had not enoigh sleep and have to type evey kline by hand as my scripts are borked and i have no >X |
| 00:59.26 | buu | There's a suprise |
| 00:59.27 | abrotman | RichiH: the name of the id ... not the irc nick .. the name@ |
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| 00:59.38 | RichiH | abrotman: aaaah |
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| 00:59.52 | RichiH | abrotman: _that_ helps |
| 00:59.56 | RichiH | thanks :) |
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| 01:00.06 | abrotman | so is i aysu |
| 01:00.10 | abrotman | err is aysu |
| 01:00.17 | abrotman | i think that was it ... |
| 01:00.22 | abrotman | it's a repeating pattern afaict |
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| 01:00.31 | FieldySnuts | once you watch it for like 3 hours yeah |
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| 01:00.43 | FieldySnuts | i say that's one |
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| 01:00.52 | nvz | I cant really see anything on this site to see who is responsible for this ugly website |
| 01:00.57 | phretor | module-assistant is something great |
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| 01:01.21 | abrotman | that one too! |
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| 01:01.25 | abrotman | kill! |
| 01:01.27 | abrotman | die bastard! |
| 01:01.29 | FieldySnuts | that one was here about 2 minutes ago |
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| 01:01.30 | jethro | :) |
| 01:01.39 | abrotman | oh .. that one looks .. real? |
| 01:01.54 | buu | abrotman: How do you tell the difference? |
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| 01:02.07 | dvs | get him |
| 01:02.08 | abrotman | buu: uhm .. i'm good like that? |
| 01:02.09 | FieldySnuts | overlogical mind |
| 01:02.17 | abrotman | yes .. that was also one |
| 01:02.20 | FieldySnuts | comes from watching too many irc kiddies |
| 01:02.21 | buu | abrotman: "I sense an A.. is there an A in the room?" |
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| 01:02.23 | abrotman | buu: i remember weird things |
| 01:02.25 | drew | I am having problems with sound. Whenever I play movies or music, it always plays the file, but I NEVER get any sound. Can anyone help? |
| 01:02.28 | abrotman | that's one |
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| 01:02.34 | buu | drew: Do you regularly get sound? |
| 01:02.38 | FieldySnuts | many of them are on the same networks |
| 01:02.41 | buu | drew: Or rather, get sound from something else? |
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| 01:02.58 | drew | buu, no, there is no sound at all on debian, but I always get it on windows |
| 01:02.59 | FieldySnuts | *!*@203.215.9?.* seems to have more than a few |
| 01:03.07 | drew | buu, I never had this problem with ubuntu either |
| 01:03.08 | abrotman | drew: and as root ? |
| 01:03.16 | nvz | that site is so terrible I am stopping surfing imdb and going to cook something.. it makes my eyes hurt |
| 01:03.19 | drew | abrotman, I never logon as root cause I can't |
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| 01:03.25 | abrotman | you can't? |
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| 01:03.31 | abrotman | oh .. duncf looks like a bot! |
| 01:03.33 | drew | abrotman, it's disabled |
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| 01:03.35 | FieldySnuts | ~hack drew |
| 01:03.38 | apt | ACTION 0WnZ drew and steals all of the p0rn on the hard drive. |
| 01:03.38 | duncf | abrotman: ? |
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| 01:03.38 | abrotman | drew: oh ok ... |
| 01:03.38 | buu | drew: You are running ubuntu, not debian? |
| 01:03.42 | abrotman | duncf: joke .. sorry |
| 01:03.49 | duncf | abrotman: what's with the bots anyways? |
| 01:03.54 | drew | buu, I am runnign debian |
| 01:03.55 | abrotman | duncf: they love us! |
| 01:03.59 | duncf | clearly |
| 01:04.05 | drew | buu, but I USEDTO use ubuntu and there was never this prob |
| 01:04.11 | rixth | duncf, they are not very intelligent, they don't even say anything, they just /msg you with blankness |
| 01:04.21 | FieldySnuts | unless it's an unknown locale |
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| 01:04.26 | orchid | How do I get rid of thes join bots? ive had 8 queries in 4 mins |
| 01:04.28 | rixth | Bot! |
| 01:04.32 | duncf | rixth: yeah, i was just going ot say that--- seems kinda stupid |
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| 01:04.37 | abrotman | rixth: we think it's a ctcp .. then they look at your version and decide if they want to send you a virus ... nfc really |
| 01:04.39 | FieldySnuts | ~topicsmite orchid |
| 01:04.41 | apt | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon orchid. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:04.41 | dvs | orchid: /topic |
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| 01:04.56 | duncf | whats umode +E do? |
| 01:04.57 | orchid | dvs ok |
| 01:05.04 | drew | buu, I am running debian, but I USED TO have ubuntu, and it never had this problem |
| 01:05.07 | rixth | duncf, only accept /msgs from identifed users |
| 01:05.12 | abrotman | duncf: roughly .. unregistred can't msg you |
| 01:05.19 | duncf | makes sense |
| 01:05.31 | duncf | stupid bots |
| 01:05.35 | rixth | abrotman, surley the spammer could program the bot the /msg NickServ though? |
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| 01:05.41 | abrotman | rixth: to do what? |
| 01:05.46 | abrotman | rixth: that doesn't show your client |
| 01:05.46 | rac | abrotman, 2 other tests please |
| 01:05.51 | abrotman | rac: for what?!! |
| 01:06.01 | rixth | abrotman, register and idenify with NickServ |
| 01:06.12 | FieldySnuts | need an email for that |
| 01:06.12 | abrotman | rixth: oh .. i suppose .. |
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| 01:06.20 | FieldySnuts | bot. |
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| 01:06.31 | rac | http://formath.homelinux.org:3000 |
| 01:06.36 | FieldySnuts | web server on that one |
| 01:06.44 | orchid | -!- Irssi: Unknown command: umode |
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| 01:06.46 | abrotman | rac: that's god awful ugly |
| 01:06.49 | Bart_ | hey |
| 01:06.49 | Bart_ | humm, is there a way to tell squid to send requests for ip address not in europe forward them to a squid I could setup |
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| 01:06.51 | abrotman | orchid: /umode +E |
| 01:06.52 | FieldySnuts | zero sized reply heh |
| 01:07.05 | rac | http://nature-auvergne.homelinux.org:2000 |
| 01:07.06 | *** part/#debian mango (n=ezal__^^@80.96.171.149) |
| 01:07.07 | FieldySnuts | this is why the topic should be changed to /mode yournick +E , not all clients have /umode |
| 01:07.07 | orchid | abrotman: yes |
| 01:07.21 | orchid | abrotman: unknown command |
| 01:07.27 | dvs | FieldySnuts: like me |
| 01:07.29 | abrotman | orchid: as FieldySnuts said /mode orchid +E |
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| 01:07.32 | rixth | mIRC doesn't. |
| 01:07.35 | rixth | Bot |
| 01:07.36 | orchid | abrotman: ahh |
| 01:07.37 | abrotman | duh |
| 01:07.39 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:07.41 | *** part/#debian _Arzu- (i=04401@193.230.222.141) |
| 01:07.43 | abrotman | rixth: don't use mirc .. duh |
| 01:07.44 | rixth | Yep |
| 01:07.47 | rac | are they different |
| 01:07.49 | rac | ? |
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| 01:07.55 | rixth | abrotman, I don't either, but just pointing that out |
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| 01:08.01 | rixth | Bot |
| 01:08.03 | abrotman | rac: second doesn't work |
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| 01:08.33 | rac | http://nature-auvergne.homelinux.org:2000 |
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| 01:08.37 | abrotman | it doesn't work |
| 01:08.50 | abrotman | rac: i just told you ti doesn't work |
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| 01:09.07 | FieldySnuts | another one with tcp port 5101 open |
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| 01:09.16 | drew | buu, I am running debian, but I USED TO have ubuntu, and it never had this problem |
| 01:09.18 | abrotman | oh .. stx is a bot! kill! |
| 01:09.20 | abrotman | oh wait .. |
| 01:09.21 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:09.25 | FieldySnuts | ~lart abrotman |
| 01:09.28 | dvs | trigger happy? |
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| 01:09.37 | FieldySnuts | bot! |
| 01:09.40 | abrotman | bot bot! |
| 01:09.42 | rixth | bot |
| 01:09.43 | RvGaTe | !whois mango |
| 01:09.46 | dvs | wot? |
| 01:09.47 | rixth | Aw, I'm slow |
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| 01:09.52 | rixth | bot |
| 01:09.54 | abrotman | no |
| 01:09.56 | abrotman | real |
| 01:09.57 | rixth | NO, tis chatzilla |
| 01:10.01 | abrotman | duh .. chatzilla :) |
| 01:10.11 | RvGaTe | !seen mango |
| 01:10.12 | dpkg | mango <nobody@208.163.51.109> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 77d 1h 29m 47s ago, saying: '!slap abrotman'. |
| 01:10.12 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 80/tcp on 81.246.132.17 |
| 01:10.14 | rixth | THe nick is suspect though :) |
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| 01:10.27 | abrotman | waht? |
| 01:10.28 | rixth | bot |
| 01:10.29 | abrotman | why me? |
| 01:10.34 | abrotman | no |
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| 01:10.39 | RvGaTe | you see that abrotman? |
| 01:10.40 | rixth | I suck at this./ |
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| 01:10.51 | abrotman | RvGaTe: that i got slapped? |
| 01:11.03 | *** part/#debian olg_svr_16 (n=bilge@62.29.101.189) |
| 01:11.06 | RvGaTe | 77d not seen, and he just IM'nd me a space |
| 01:11.09 | abrotman | oh .. i think i lose |
| 01:11.16 | abrotman | RvGaTe: and ? |
| 01:11.18 | drew | can anyone provide me with a solution as to how to fix my sound problem? |
| 01:11.31 | abrotman | drew: what sound card .. what kernel .. |
| 01:11.38 | RvGaTe | kinda wierd, becouse _aysen_ and Caapy(something) did to |
| 01:11.39 | rixth | drew, http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html&ei=wb0PQ6SgK8j2YIuzyLkJ |
| 01:11.50 | RvGaTe | !seen _aysen_ |
| 01:11.51 | dpkg | i haven't seen '_aysen_', RvGaTe |
| 01:11.58 | rixth | drac, some of the packages don't work, just try running alsaconf |
| 01:12.01 | RvGaTe | this is freaking me out |
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| 01:12.32 | rixth | bot! |
| 01:12.34 | abrotman | duh |
| 01:12.36 | abrotman | same name! |
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| 01:12.50 | rixth | olg_svr_16 (n=bilge@62.29.101.189) has joined #debian <<< Same host too |
| 01:12.50 | FieldySnuts | well.. if anything this will help cure the intense boredom on a friday night |
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| 01:13.01 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: oh .. maybe it will continue til sunday! |
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| 01:13.23 | mfrisch | could someone bring up my webpage...Its just the apache default page, I want to see if its resolving. incin.mine.nu |
| 01:13.24 | FieldySnuts | damn it the one had some interesting stuff and litrally fell off the net |
| 01:13.37 | FieldySnuts | i wonder if whatever they are being infected with is rebooting them too much |
| 01:13.40 | RvGaTe | rixth... ? |
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| 01:13.48 | abrotman | mfrisch: seems not |
| 01:13.51 | RvGaTe | you getting private messages as well ? |
| 01:13.54 | abrotman | hahah!!! |
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| 01:13.56 | FieldySnuts | because they become responsive again later |
| 01:13.56 | rixth | two bots! |
| 01:14.00 | abrotman | bad random ! |
| 01:14.05 | mfrisch | abrotman thanks |
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| 01:14.20 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 80/tcp on 85.186.97.60 |
| 01:14.36 | FieldySnuts | Zero Sized Reply |
| 01:14.38 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:14.46 | abrotman | that's a crappy webserver |
| 01:14.51 | drew | what's the command to check my kernel? |
| 01:14.54 | RvGaTe | WHY DO I KEEP GETTING MESSAGES !!!! AARGG :S |
| 01:14.55 | abrotman | uname -a |
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| 01:14.59 | abrotman | RvGaTe: /umode +E |
| 01:15.00 | FieldySnuts | read the fucking topic, asshat |
| 01:15.02 | abrotman | read the damn topic |
| 01:15.05 | dvs | drew: uname -r |
| 01:15.06 | abrotman | bot bot bot! |
| 01:15.08 | jethro | RvGaTe: register, and /umode +E |
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| 01:15.23 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 5101/tcp on 85.186.97.60 |
| 01:15.24 | abrotman | did RichiH give up? |
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| 01:15.26 | FieldySnuts | 5101 is rather common on th em |
| 01:15.29 | RichiH | abrotman: no |
| 01:15.30 | drew | abrotman, my sound card: 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) |
| 01:15.30 | drew | , as for the kernel, it is: 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 01:15.30 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: you're enjoying this :) |
| 01:15.37 | FieldySnuts | yep |
| 01:15.39 | RichiH | i am klining what messages me |
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| 01:15.42 | abrotman | drew: cpu is ? |
| 01:15.43 | FieldySnuts | trying to figure them out |
| 01:15.45 | abrotman | RichiH: ah ok |
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| 01:15.51 | drew | Intel Pentium 4, 2.8 GHz |
| 01:16.01 | abrotman | RichiH: you can kline by host .. or name only ? |
| 01:16.05 | RvGaTe | umode invalid command ? |
| 01:16.05 | FieldySnuts | it's just very hard, they become unreachable only seconds after starting a scan |
| 01:16.12 | FieldySnuts | they come back later 2 - 5 minutes |
| 01:16.20 | FieldySnuts | then go away and go unreachable again |
| 01:16.22 | FieldySnuts | very annoying |
| 01:16.32 | jethro | RvGaTe: /mode <nick> +E then |
| 01:16.36 | drew | abrotman, Pentium 4, 2.8 GHz |
| 01:16.36 | FieldySnuts | i suspect they are being rebooted |
| 01:16.37 | abrotman | drew: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 alsa-base alsa-utils .. reboot |
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| 01:16.46 | drew | abrotman, okay |
| 01:16.49 | abrotman | drew: wait |
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| 01:16.58 | abrotman | drew: make sure your bootloader is configured before you do that :) |
| 01:16.58 | drew | ok |
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| 01:17.04 | RvGaTe | how long will +E be active ? |
| 01:17.06 | aeacides | gnome filled up my / :( |
| 01:17.12 | abrotman | RvGaTe: til you log off |
| 01:17.12 | FieldySnuts | until your next session, or you -E yourself |
| 01:17.13 | jethro | RvGaTe: as long as you're connected |
| 01:17.15 | RvGaTe | and why is it needed |
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| 01:17.24 | abrotman | jethro: isn't it like .. 6am there? |
| 01:17.25 | drew | abrotman, what do you mean? I've rebooted MANY times already |
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| 01:17.30 | jethro | Sat Aug 27 03:17:30 CEST 2005 |
| 01:17.30 | sn00p | Has anybody ever installed vmware on debian? |
| 01:17.32 | abrotman | !tell RvGaTe about fn modes |
| 01:17.46 | abrotman | drew: i just meant so that you know the new kernel is active :) |
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| 01:18.00 | jethro | abrotman: does this mean you want me to leave? |
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| 01:18.06 | jethro | :) |
| 01:18.07 | abrotman | jethro: no .. get me beer! |
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| 01:18.31 | FieldySnuts | ~aussiesmite jethro |
| 01:18.34 | drew | abrotman, you mean I need to configure it for the new thing I'm gonna install? o_O |
| 01:18.36 | abrotman | jethro: how much of that stuff do you have ? |
| 01:18.46 | abrotman | drew: you might have to ... |
| 01:18.51 | jethro | abrotman: 6 left :( |
| 01:18.59 | RvGaTe | strange, i registered this nick... |
| 01:19.05 | drew | abrotman, what would I need to configure? GRUB works fine right now |
| 01:19.06 | abrotman | jethro: must you return to belgium to get more? |
| 01:19.19 | abrotman | drew: grub might work without you doing anything ... just install reboot .. and see |
| 01:19.22 | jethro | abrotman: I think I'll have to. I didn't find any shop in paris where to buy some |
| 01:19.23 | rach | ok a the last test to |
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| 01:19.39 | jethro | abrotman: I'll be returning to belgium in 2 weeks :) |
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| 01:19.48 | abrotman | jethro: got a wife? |
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| 01:19.56 | jethro | abrotman: in belgium? |
| 01:19.58 | rach | http://nature-auvergne.homelinux.org:2000 |
| 01:20.07 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: what did i do? |
| 01:20.12 | jethro | abrotman: I got a beer dealer there, that's all :) |
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| 01:20.19 | abrotman | rach: fine |
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| 01:20.38 | abrotman | !.pk |
| 01:20.40 | abrotman | !pk |
| 01:20.42 | rach | NATURE-AUVERGNE ? |
| 01:20.43 | abrotman | oh well |
| 01:20.45 | abrotman | rach: yes |
| 01:20.50 | rach | oh yes |
| 01:20.55 | abrotman | and the other? |
| 01:21.05 | rixth | Is it just me or have the bots stopped attacking? |
| 01:21.06 | abrotman | rach: they both seem fine ... |
| 01:21.09 | rach | http://formath.homelinux.org:3000 |
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| 01:21.13 | abrotman | rixth: setting up new hosts |
| 01:21.15 | abrotman | rach: it's fine |
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| 01:21.27 | rach | are they different ? |
| 01:21.29 | rixth | abrotman, the spammers are? |
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| 01:21.48 | mfrisch | abrotman any ideas why if I put my ip in it brings up my page but does not resolve outside my ISP? |
| 01:21.50 | abrotman | rixth: maybe ... |
| 01:21.54 | jethro | abrotman: can you find westmalle in philly? |
| 01:22.01 | abrotman | mfrisch: dns not updated yet? |
| 01:22.08 | abrotman | jethro: dunno .. i can try :) |
| 01:22.21 | jethro | abrotman: if you can, try the triple van westmalle, it's good! |
| 01:22.30 | rixth | When I fdisk -l I get a drive with the type "W95 Ext'd (LBA)". Under the if column is "f". How do I mount it? It doesn't appear to be vfat |
| 01:22.33 | RvGaTe | anyone has experience with Mozilla Sunbird? im looking for a good calendar for saving appointments etc... |
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| 01:22.44 | jethro | abrotman: because they brew different beers in westmalle |
| 01:22.48 | mfrisch | abrotman can you try 65.27.189.243? |
| 01:22.50 | abrotman | rixth: for which partition? |
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| 01:23.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 444] by debhelper |
| 01:23.02 | abrotman | mfrisch: nope |
| 01:23.08 | rixth | /dev/sdb2 |
| 01:23.10 | abrotman | jethro: ah ok |
| 01:23.15 | abrotman | !vfatrw |
| 01:23.15 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS. |
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| 01:23.23 | rixth | Serial ATA on the second chanel |
| 01:23.24 | phretor | the ipw2100-source distribution is bugged |
| 01:23.25 | abrotman | rixth: see ... |
| 01:23.33 | jethro | phretor: file a bug report then |
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| 01:23.44 | rixth | abrotman, No, thats not my problem. It won't mount fullstop |
| 01:23.47 | rixth | Bots are back, |
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| 01:23.52 | FieldySnuts | we know |
| 01:23.54 | abrotman | why would you mount fullstop ? |
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| 01:24.02 | abrotman | rixth: what is the error ? |
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| 01:24.33 | rixth | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2, |
| 01:24.39 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 5101/tcp on 62.162.194.194 |
| 01:24.44 | FieldySnuts | wtf is that port, i've seen it a lot |
| 01:24.56 | abrotman | rixth: paste your fdisk -l /dev/sdb on some pastebin |
| 01:25.05 | FieldySnuts | smbclient -N -L 62.162.194.194 |
| 01:25.10 | FieldySnuts | Domain=[II] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager] |
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| 01:25.35 | rixth | http://hashcss.org/paste/9 |
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| 01:25.40 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: http://isc.sans.org/port_details.php?port=5101 |
| 01:25.45 | FieldySnuts | oh damn good idea |
| 01:25.55 | majnoon | ok trying bootstrap install :) |
| 01:25.59 | FieldySnuts | curious, it's going up |
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| 01:26.09 | asuffield | abrotman: that's bullshit though |
| 01:26.10 | abrotman | rixth: tha'ts your mp3 player? |
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| 01:26.19 | asuffield | FieldySnuts: it's yahoo messenger |
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| 01:26.24 | abrotman | asuffield: what is .. the traffic or the port info? |
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| 01:26.39 | FieldySnuts | *listening* though? |
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| 01:26.53 | asuffield | FieldySnuts: yahoo messenger is a low-popularity p2p system |
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| 01:26.57 | rixth | abrotman, no, I have two 160GB SATA drives attached |
| 01:27.05 | asuffield | it's mostly used for sharing bad porn |
| 01:27.09 | abrotman | asuffield: i just was showing the port info .. i don't care about the traffic :) |
| 01:27.16 | abrotman | rixth: well . .then that's not your mp3 player |
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| 01:27.24 | FieldySnuts | oh my god |
| 01:27.26 | asuffield | abrotman: dunno about the traffic. they entirely fail to mention messenger |
| 01:27.35 | abrotman | asuffield: you could add that info :) |
| 01:27.37 | FieldySnuts | I do NOT reccommend you do this: smbclient -N //62.162.194.194/C |
| 01:27.41 | FieldySnuts | wanker. |
| 01:27.41 | rixth | abrotman, I know it isn't! I don't know where you got the idea it was |
| 01:27.42 | asuffield | can't really be bothered :P |
| 01:28.07 | aeacides | can someone tell me how to convince X to use a smaller virtual window? A small part of my screen is off my monitor |
| 01:28.17 | abrotman | rixth: you told me it was sdb! |
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| 01:28.30 | aeacides | I've tried adjusting the XF86Config display modes with no success |
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| 01:28.37 | abrotman | rixth: do you have hotplug installed ? |
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| 01:28.38 | jethro | FieldySnuts: thanks for the GTA3!!! |
| 01:28.42 | FieldySnuts | jethro: ... |
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| 01:28.54 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 01:28.57 | abrotman | hot girl! |
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| 01:29.00 | rixth | abrotman, the first SATA channel is SDA the second is SDB... |
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| 01:29.06 | abrotman | rixth: i'm gonna smack you |
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| 01:29.16 | asuffield | FieldySnuts: that host is full of worms |
| 01:29.18 | abrotman | rixth: you're trying to get your mp3 player working ? |
| 01:29.28 | FieldySnuts | asuffield: i bet. |
| 01:29.31 | asuffield | unsurprisingly, since some twat left a windows box exposed to the internet |
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| 01:29.37 | FieldySnuts | asuffield: i want to know which one is causing this (that is one of the bots) |
| 01:29.37 | rixth | abrotman, no! Geez. I'm trying to mount this partition on a SATA harddrive. |
| 01:29.43 | herbi | lol is this place under attack? |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | grr |
| 01:29.44 | FieldySnuts | asuffield: so let me know if you find out |
| 01:29.44 | ddtcomp | anyone has information on installing ati all in wonder 8500dv with tv capavility? |
| 01:29.47 | herbi | i keep getting /msg's |
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| 01:29.50 | rixth | FieldySnuts, I can't use smbclient to connect to them? |
| 01:29.50 | asuffield | FieldySnuts: there's like six on there |
| 01:29.53 | abrotman | rixth: you want to mount /dev/sdb2 ? and it won't work? |
| 01:30.07 | FieldySnuts | rixth: yes you can, it's probably slow now though |
| 01:30.08 | abrotman | rixth: oh .. i see why |
| 01:30.15 | rixth | http://hashcss.org/paste/10 |
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| 01:30.17 | abrotman | rixth: sdb2 isn't a real partition :) |
| 01:30.22 | asuffield | probably lots more, it'll have been infected with just about everything in the past five years |
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| 01:30.41 | FieldySnuts | i shouldn't have given that out heh now it's too slow, i can't browse |
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| 01:30.45 | abrotman | rixth: you have to mount /dev/sdb3 .. and it's ntfs .. sorry about that |
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| 01:31.13 | rixth | abrotman, why doesn't it say HPFS/NTFS |
| 01:31.16 | rixth | then? |
| 01:31.20 | abrotman | rixth: sdb3 does |
| 01:31.24 | jethro | FieldySnuts: that's me stealing all the pr0n |
| 01:31.26 | abrotman | rixth: you can't mount sdb2 |
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| 01:31.44 | rixth | Is sdb2 like a placeholder? |
| 01:31.48 | abrotman | if i wrote a bot .. i'd at least pick funny names |
| 01:31.52 | FieldySnuts | asuffield: with possibly writable C: drive, i can' tbelieve that thing is still up |
| 01:32.06 | FieldySnuts | which it doesn't appear to be now heh |
| 01:32.08 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: it's windowsupdate.com :) |
| 01:32.21 | jethro | abrotman: furry names? |
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| 01:32.24 | asuffield | FieldySnuts: it's probably only being used by the warez and spam groups who put the worms out |
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| 01:32.49 | FieldySnuts | yeah it's down now. |
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| 01:32.53 | abrotman | jethro: no .. like .. CONAN ... MURPHY .. Chris_Knight |
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| 01:33.11 | jethro | chris_knight sucks |
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| 01:33.20 | FieldySnuts | er. |
| 01:33.20 | jethro | I can't bear _ in nicknammes |
| 01:33.28 | jethro | s/mm/m/ |
| 01:33.29 | abrotman | always check your optics |
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| 01:33.33 | FieldySnuts | SpeedStream Telnet Server |
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| 01:34.21 | FieldySnuts | i'll have to not share that info next time i find C:\ shared heh |
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| 01:35.37 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: can you put a file on the desktop that is titled "Your machine is infected beyond belief" |
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| 01:35.46 | rixth | FieldySnuts, I don't think your the only one checking every spam bot now :) |
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| 01:36.56 | rixth | FieldySnuts, its port 445 eh? |
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| 01:37.33 | abrotman | jeez |
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| 01:37.41 | john | ban n= |
| 01:37.47 | jethro | no way |
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| 01:38.00 | abrotman | we've done that already |
| 01:38.04 | drew | how do I stop speaker-test? |
| 01:38.06 | jethro | bah n= ? |
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| 01:38.10 | rixth | drew, ctrl+c |
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| 01:38.13 | drew | k |
| 01:38.22 | jethro | abrotman: jethro [n=jethro@saje3.docisland.org] |
| 01:38.29 | jethro | I'd rather not have n= banned :) |
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| 01:38.34 | john | oh. sorry. |
| 01:38.46 | john | wow, it's all n= |
| 01:38.47 | john | nevermind |
| 01:38.51 | FieldySnuts | no reason to ban that, +r will not allow unidentified users to join |
| 01:38.53 | abrotman | jethro: but you're id'ed .. they did the +r |
| 01:39.03 | jethro | john: it just means one doesn't run an identd |
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| 01:39.12 | john | 212.156.178.242 <--- seems to be familiar with them |
| 01:39.27 | abrotman | john: we can read ... |
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| 01:39.50 | john | okay sorry. |
| 01:39.59 | rixth | Many, many bots are from 212.156.*.* |
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| 01:40.09 | midg3t | is there a common reason (& fix) for repeatedly getting MD5Sum mismatches when installing packages? (via dist-upgrade in this case) |
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| 01:40.32 | abrotman | !apt secure |
| 01:40.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, apt secure is in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://www.syntaxpolice.org/apt-secure/ ; until you perform the steps described on page 5, you will get warnings about packages that can't be authenticated, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174 |
| 01:40.36 | abrotman | maybe ? |
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| 01:40.59 | midg3t | i'll take a look, ta |
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| 01:41.19 | djperegrine | how do I check the debian version ( woody, sarge ) |
| 01:41.20 | djperegrine | ? |
| 01:41.25 | jethro | !version |
| 01:41.25 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. |
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| 01:41.33 | abrotman | djperegrine: /etc/debian_version .. or check your sources |
| 01:41.43 | abrotman | !version is also check /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:41.44 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 01:42.02 | djperegrine | 3 is sarge right? |
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| 01:42.11 | jethro | djperegrine: sarge is 3.1 |
| 01:42.18 | djperegrine | k |
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| 01:42.42 | abrotman | bot! |
| 01:43.14 | djperegrine | thanks |
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| 01:43.54 | FieldySnuts | they could at least pick amusing names and idents. |
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| 01:43.59 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: yeah .. anyways |
| 01:44.03 | abrotman | like chrisknight! |
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| 01:44.57 | jethro | it'd be more amusing if they used nicknames of channel regulars |
| 01:45.18 | FieldySnuts | the gnaa idiots already do that |
| 01:45.28 | jethro | it's called geenaa now |
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| 01:45.31 | FieldySnuts | ? |
| 01:45.36 | Supaplex | some of us ignore all join,part,quit :) |
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| 01:45.47 | FieldySnuts | some of us don't want it to be that quiet |
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| 01:45.54 | drew | small problem |
| 01:45.57 | jethro | FieldySnuts: last time I read their spam through paster, it was geenaa dot something |
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| 01:46.03 | FieldySnuts | oh |
| 01:46.16 | Supaplex | !shout in FieldySnuts's ear |
| 01:46.23 | Supaplex | :) |
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| 01:46.27 | drew | I followed the directions on: http://xtronics.com/reference/Debian-sound.html and got my sound working, BUT, I have to reconfigure alsa once I rebooted...will I have to do this every time? |
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| 01:46.28 | jethro | @aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 01:46.28 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: heh im going to the dunny to wank with my donger mate |
| 01:46.29 | abrotman | if it weren't for the bots and join/part .. there'd be nothing going on tonight :) |
| 01:46.30 | FieldySnuts | ~irritate Supaplex |
| 01:46.33 | apt | Supaplex: HELP ME!!! who uses kde plz msg me, FrankyFourFinger |
| 01:46.37 | FieldySnuts | haha |
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| 01:46.38 | abrotman | drew: it should stick |
| 01:46.39 | jethro | hah |
| 01:46.48 | FieldySnuts | since when does irritate use $randnick |
| 01:46.51 | FieldySnuts | or whatever it is |
| 01:46.57 | drew | abrotman, okay, I'll try |
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| 01:47.06 | jethro | maybe it's just in apt. I've never seen it do that before :) |
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| 01:47.16 | FieldySnuts | that's mean |
| 01:47.27 | Supaplex | ~confuse ravenbird |
| 01:47.29 | apt | yes them are my bacon yesterday ? |
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| 01:47.40 | Supaplex | meh |
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| 01:47.57 | concept10 | #ubuntu is getting spammed heavily |
| 01:48.03 | FieldySnuts | oh goody. bot ammo. |
| 01:48.10 | jethro | hah |
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| 01:49.06 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 01:49.12 | concept10 | I usually hang in #debian and #ubuntu and I started IRC an hour ago and then went into another room to do something, I got back and there was 100 tabs open |
| 01:49.34 | FieldySnuts | ~love Phated |
| 01:49.35 | apt | If you love Phated so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 01:49.39 | FieldySnuts | er |
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| 01:49.41 | Phated | o.O |
| 01:49.43 | FieldySnuts | not what I expected |
| 01:49.45 | jdhutchin1 | concept10, /umode +E |
| 01:50.03 | FieldySnuts | that's illegal here </troll> |
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| 01:50.30 | Gnea | is there a clearly written explanation for +E? |
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| 01:50.37 | midg3t | http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 01:50.48 | Phated | Gnea: No one who's unregistered with nickserv can msg you. |
| 01:50.50 | drew | abrotman, it didn't stick, I seem to have to reconfigure each time |
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| 01:51.00 | Gnea | rock on. |
| 01:51.07 | drew | abrotman, would it matter that I installed everything in a root terminal? |
| 01:51.28 | abrotman | no |
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| 01:51.35 | abrotman | drew: define configure |
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| 01:52.04 | drew | I have to run: alsaconf and then alsactl store EVERY time |
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| 01:52.08 | Navop | have a question, where cani find a listing of system-config commands |
| 01:52.24 | abrotman | depends what you want to configure |
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| 01:52.33 | Navop | my monitor |
| 01:52.37 | abrotman | to do what? |
| 01:52.41 | drew | abrotman, I have to run: alsaconf and then alsactl store EVERY time |
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| 01:52.46 | Kastyr | I'm trying to set up a SunBlade 100 over a net boot with no connection to the internet available, and I need to set up an ftp on the lan containing only the files needed for a base install. Does anyone have a list of what files are needed or know where I can acquire one? |
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| 01:52.53 | abrotman | drew: i've not seen that ... |
| 01:53.10 | drew | abrotman, sound never works until I do it o_O |
| 01:53.23 | abrotman | !alsa |
| 01:53.23 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 01:53.28 | jdhutchin1 | drew, there should be stuff in the startup scripts that do it |
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| 01:54.01 | drew | jdhutchinl, it never does it on startup, I always have to do it manually |
| 01:54.03 | rixth | http://pastebin.com/347353 Wtf. Look at what will be removed?! |
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| 01:54.10 | Navop | what is the right command on config...system-config |
| 01:54.31 | abrotman | rixth: you're on sid ? |
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| 01:54.53 | rixth | abrotman, Etch. The only Sid package I'm using is xorg |
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| 01:54.56 | Kastyr | So does anyone know what files are neccessary for setting up the base-install? |
| 01:55.05 | abrotman | rixth: apt-get install gnome .. what doe si tdo ? |
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| 01:55.57 | rixth | I don't use Gnome. I use some gnome/gtk applications though (grip, gedit etc). I use openbox/fbpanel; |
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| 01:56.09 | abrotman | rixth: seems like new stuff is floating in ... |
| 01:56.14 | rixth | gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 1:2.10.1.1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 01:56.21 | captn | hello all !! :)) |
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| 01:56.41 | jethro | :o)) |
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| 01:57.04 | drew | abrotman, would it matter that I didn't set the audio device in Sound System to ALSA? |
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| 01:57.29 | captn | I'm french and i just finish to install Debian ... |
| 01:57.35 | abrotman | drew: possibly |
| 01:57.43 | abrotman | captn: now invade germany! |
| 01:57.49 | abrotman | get those bastards back! |
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| 01:57.53 | nvz | heh |
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| 01:58.18 | concept10 | why did he say he was french? |
| 01:58.21 | Navop | abroman: where can i specify my monitor and its setting ? |
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| 01:58.43 | nvz | concept10: fair warning :P |
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| 01:58.58 | abrotman | !drxx Navop |
| 01:59.00 | dpkg | Navop: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 01:59.13 | Kastyr | Hey, so nobody knows the files needed for a base-install? You know, getting it to the point where the actual kernel is installed? |
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| 01:59.24 | Navop | ty dpkg |
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| 01:59.41 | mmiikkee12 | Kastyr: run debootstrap :) |
| 01:59.47 | Kastyr | It's not that simple. |
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| 01:59.59 | abrotman | !base-config |
| 02:00.00 | dpkg | base-config is, like, or can be something to run to configure your base install |
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| 02:00.17 | midg3t | still getting an md5sum mismatch on libgtk2.0-dev_2.6.9-1_i386.deb |
| 02:00.19 | Kastyr | I booted a netboot 2.6 kernel onto the Sunblade. It doesn't have internet, and doesn't read the CD-ROM drive. So I have to put the packages on an ftp on the local network. |
| 02:00.29 | aeacides | why can't i apt-get install xserver-xorg? |
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| 02:01.04 | midg3t | i've tried three different mirrors. am getting via a local apt-cacher. i've also tried manually removing the cached .deb from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt-cacher/packages/ |
| 02:01.06 | Kastyr | I tried just serving the first SPARC CD over an FTP, but alot of the filenames are different for it than official Debian ftp mirrors, so it won't work. I tried just copying it and fixing the names, but that is a LONG process. Much longer in theory than just getting the packages and making a mini ftp. |
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| 02:01.48 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 02:01.49 | dpkg | from memory, sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
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| 02:02.01 | abrotman | !xorg sarge |
| 02:02.02 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg sarge is http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ for sarge backports of the xorg packages. Use at your own risk. |
| 02:02.06 | Navop | dpkg: how or where do i go about to setup m monitor |
| 02:02.15 | phlak | is there a girl for me? |
| 02:02.29 | pureone | phlak try #hookers |
| 02:02.31 | Kastyr | Well, my question at least seemed a bit platform independent. But thanks for your help. |
| 02:02.40 | phlak | not i like good people |
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| 02:02.55 | pureone | ok try #goodhookers |
| 02:02.57 | abrotman | !drxx Navop |
| 02:02.57 | dpkg | Navop: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 02:02.59 | phlak | lol |
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| 02:03.22 | Daffy-PKF | the installation of mysql-server tells me it won't install if my hostname is not resolved in /etc/hosts, what if it is nor resolved by /etc/hosts but by bind? |
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| 02:03.35 | phlak | i wunt some one now |
| 02:03.39 | abrotman | phlak: stop |
| 02:03.44 | sgeigerbot | Daffy-PKF: that wouldn't matter. |
| 02:03.50 | phlak | lol i'm just kitiing |
| 02:03.57 | abrotman | !de |
| 02:03.58 | dpkg | i guess de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 02:04.08 | phlak | so hows is every one? |
| 02:04.09 | Daffy-PKF | sgeigerbot> does that means it is ok? or i have to do it in /etc/hosts? |
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| 02:04.42 | sgeigerbot | Daffy-PKF: Many apps will choke if you don't have /etc/hosts set up properly. Do it. You don't need DNS to run a machine, though. |
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| 02:05.35 | Daffy-PKF | sgeigerbot> yes but i have it on my router so... but ok i'll add my hostname in /etc/hosts |
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| 02:07.20 | aeacides | apparentl i'm going to have to live with 800x600 resolution :/ |
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| 02:08.25 | obscuresoul | i read that mkinitrd creates a initrd image! but that initrd image is created from what? a normal file, a device, what? |
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| 02:08.43 | Daffy-PKF | i "apt-get install apache" what is that apache2 dir in /etc? |
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| 02:09.03 | karsten | obscuresoul: From your kernel modules, basically. |
| 02:09.16 | deadcat | karsten: what up |
| 02:09.17 | midg3t | Daffy-PKF: you might have apache2 installed too, or have had it in the past |
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| 02:09.31 | karsten | deadcat: In Napa, packing to move tomorrow. |
| 02:09.55 | karsten | deadcat: I'm *really* not here right now. |
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| 02:10.10 | Daffy-PKF | midg3t> it's a fresh installation, i just installed apache, mysql-server-5.0, php5 and phpmyadmin |
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| 02:10.33 | deadcat | karsten: ah.. cool.. maybe we'll see you at rick's tomorrow? |
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| 02:11.03 | deadcat | tdonahue: thats nothing. irc-SCAM is the problem |
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| 02:11.08 | karsten | deadcat: Possibly. What time's the event? |
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| 02:11.11 | Daffy-PKF | midg3t> and 'dpkg -l apache2' tells me it's not installed ??? |
| 02:11.28 | deadcat | karsten: usual 4-when you cant take it no more (= |
| 02:11.29 | obscuresoul | karsten, yes but where this modules are located to be preloaded? /dev/initrd, /dev/ram0? |
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| 02:11.35 | nullvoid | try dpkg -l | grep apache |
| 02:11.58 | karsten | obscuresoul: /lib/modules/<kernel version> |
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| 02:12.14 | karsten | obscuresoul: The reason for creating an initrd is to load modules required to be able to, eg: read disk. |
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| 02:12.30 | karsten | obscuresoul: ... otherwise, you'd just read them from disk at boot in the first place. |
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| 02:13.07 | deadcat | !tell edwards about return |
| 02:13.14 | deadcat | !tell edwards about away |
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| 02:13.25 | Daffy-PKF | nullvoid> ho... i see apache,apache-common,apache2-common,apache2-mpm-prefork,apache2-utils,libapache-mod-php4,libapache2-mod-php5... why all that apache 2 things? i never asked for it |
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| 02:13.33 | deadcat | edwards: basically.. we dont give a fuck |
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| 02:13.58 | obscuresoul | karsten, ok but where's located initrd? if i want to add modules to initrd, what should i do? |
| 02:14.01 | edwards | is done |
| 02:14.11 | deadcat | obscuresoul: /etc/modules ? |
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| 02:15.36 | karsten | obscuresoul: For starters, how about reading the manpage? |
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| 02:15.43 | nullvoid | Daffy-PKF: it is not a matter of you ask, but it's installed in |
| 02:15.49 | karsten | Gah, wasted bytes. |
| 02:16.01 | deadcat | karsten: he rather quit than read manpage (= |
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| 02:16.16 | karsten | deadcat: Aye. |
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| 02:17.54 | rixth | Damn bots. |
| 02:17.56 | rixth | Sploot. |
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| 02:20.04 | fabsoft | does anyone can help me about getting working a hfc-pci isdn card with mISDN ? |
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| 02:20.23 | karsten | What's a good join/quit ignore recipie? |
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| 02:20.53 | stew | karsten: /ignore #debian -JOINS |
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| 02:21.20 | karsten | stew: Actually, I think you don't want the '-'. |
| 02:21.24 | karsten | stew: Just did that. |
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| 02:21.46 | stew | karsten: oh, you are right |
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| 02:21.57 | stew | do what i said when you don't want to ignore anymore :) |
| 02:22.02 | karsten | stew: Don't worry, I'm used to it ;-) |
| 02:22.08 | stew | heh |
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| 02:22.28 | stew | how is your knee? i remember you saying your knee was keepign you from biking as much as you would like |
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| 02:22.46 | karsten | stew: Got better. Mostly by not biking ;-) |
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| 02:23.00 | stew | karsten: glad to hear it |
| 02:23.03 | karsten | stew: ... though actually, with some ice it's OK. Swimming more now, fits the schedule these days. |
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| 02:23.24 | stew | i need to get my lazy ass to the pool now that there are free ones open all around me |
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| 02:24.02 | GoatRoby | I have modified the order of servers in my sources.list in /etc/apt but for some reason aptitude keeps choosing the original mirror that i selected first during installer... any suggestions? |
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| 02:24.34 | fabsoft | in my machine also ... |
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| 02:24.42 | fabsoft | apt-get also |
| 02:24.49 | stew | GoatRoby: if there is a server you dn't want it talking to, remove it |
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| 02:25.04 | GoatRoby | stew: good idea, let me try that |
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| 02:25.17 | stew | GoatRoby: if there was a way to do what you would want, it would be in man apt_preferences |
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| 02:25.38 | GoatRoby | i will check that too thanks |
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| 02:25.57 | deadcat | what do i do at googles so when i search some word my site will be on the list? |
| 02:25.57 | Gumby | man, what is with all these bots spamming everyone today |
| 02:26.02 | GoatRoby | stew: well the first method worked, now 300kb/sec instead of 80 |
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| 02:26.19 | Guerin | GoatRoby: the only time it chooses a server by order in sources.list is if there are multiple servers with identical packages. |
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| 02:26.30 | Gumby | deadcat: wait, google will crawl it eventually. get yor site linked on as many sites as you can, then it will get crawled faster |
| 02:26.30 | Guerin | GoatRoby: otherwise it's all by version or pinning. |
| 02:26.35 | GoatRoby | oh |
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| 02:26.46 | karsten | deadcat: Get me to link it ;-) |
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| 02:26.53 | karsten | deadcat: ... or rick. |
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| 02:29.32 | GoatRoby | Why am i getting empty messages from ppl? |
| 02:29.38 | dondelelcaro | GoatRoby: /topic |
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| 02:30.06 | stew | i wonder why i still haven't gotten any |
| 02:30.10 | stew | i'm not +E either |
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| 02:30.28 | JViz | stew: what client are you using? |
| 02:30.31 | stew | irssi |
| 02:30.47 | dondelelcaro | dunno, the bots are even getting them |
| 02:30.53 | JViz | maybe that has something to do with it, i'm using mIRC |
| 02:30.54 | stew | i haven't been versioned |
| 02:31.03 | GoatRoby | stew: i got irssi too and i get em |
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| 02:31.14 | GoatRoby | how come they are empty msgs though? |
| 02:31.20 | dondelelcaro | GoatRoby: they aren't. |
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| 02:31.30 | GoatRoby | oh, then i must be going nuts |
| 02:31.30 | JViz | dondelelcaro: what are they? |
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| 02:31.48 | dondelelcaro | JViz: they're sending a partial ansi escape sequence |
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| 02:31.52 | JViz | oh |
| 02:31.54 | deadcat | karsten: no. its for my coach's football site. like athletes can reg for workshops |
| 02:31.56 | Daffy-PKF | why does phpmyadmin insist on installin apache-common? i installed apache2 |
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| 02:32.08 | Stew | dondelelcaro: do we know what client they are targeting if any? |
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| 02:32.11 | karsten | deadcat: Get links to it. Seriously. |
| 02:32.12 | dondelelcaro | 0x03 30 2c 34 20 |
| 02:32.14 | dondelelcaro | or similar |
| 02:32.16 | karsten | deadcat: ... and give it a month or so. |
| 02:32.20 | deadcat | karsten: i try to get bots away from my own site. (=.. with robot.txt and php to get rid of them |
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| 02:32.50 | deadcat | karsten: isnt there a way i can just paste the site on google? |
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| 02:33.16 | dondelelcaro | !+depends phpmyadmin |
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| 02:33.22 | dpkg | phpmyadmin: depends on php4 (>= 4.1.0) | php4-cgi (>= 4.1.0) | php5 | php5-cgi | php5-fcgi, php4-mysql | php5-mysql | php5-mysqli, apache | apache-perl | apache-ssl | apache2 | httpd, debconf (>= 0.2.26), ucf (>= 0.8) |
| 02:33.33 | Guerin | deadcat: no. |
| 02:33.35 | deadcat | gravity said hes uploading -6, but i dont see it yet. |
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| 02:33.43 | deadcat | Guerin: oh. maybe that was yahoo then. |
| 02:33.50 | WhiteRabbit | !+depends kde |
| 02:33.53 | dpkg | kde: depends on kde-core, kde-amusements, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, kdewebdev |
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| 02:34.05 | dondelelcaro | Stew: I've no idea what client. |
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| 02:34.09 | Guerin | hrm, is kde3.4 in sid already |
| 02:34.13 | karsten | deadcat: Yeah. Go to the about stuff, find their webmasters page. |
| 02:34.16 | Guerin | !info konqueror sid |
| 02:34.19 | dpkg | konqueror: (KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and Document Viewer), section web, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2186 kB, Installed size: 5140 kB |
| 02:34.20 | karsten | deadcat: ... you can submit a page for indexing. |
| 02:34.21 | deadcat | o |
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| 02:34.24 | JViz | in the year 2000, everything will have to use a Bayesian filter... |
| 02:34.26 | Guerin | apparently not |
| 02:34.26 | Stew | GoatRoby: at least parts, i dunno if all of it is there yet |
| 02:34.27 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: the answer is most likely because you don't have one of php4 (>= 4.1.0) | php4-cgi (>= 4.1.0) | php5 | php5-cgi | php5-fcgi installed, and the default way to install it is to install apache. |
| 02:34.39 | karsten | deadcat: ... seriously, though, get it on my and/or Rick's site, it'll be spidered in a few days, likely. |
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| 02:35.36 | Guerin | but submitting a link isn't going to get your site visited by randoms |
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| 02:35.48 | Guerin | only having it linked from other, popular sites will do that |
| 02:35.50 | karsten | Guerin: ?? |
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| 02:35.59 | Guerin | unless they stumble on an exact set of search terms |
| 02:36.02 | deadcat | karsten: but it has nothing to do with linux |
| 02:36.03 | karsten | Guerin: Rick and I run popular (well, google-juiced) sites. |
| 02:36.10 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> i installe php5 |
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| 02:36.16 | karsten | deadcat: Largely doesn't matter. Go through my rants pages ;-) |
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| 02:36.30 | Guerin | karsten: right, i know. But him submitting a random site to google ain't going to get it visited |
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| 02:36.38 | karsten | Guerin: Right. |
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| 02:36.49 | karsten | deadcat: Your bigger problem is snagging me for a bit to generate the link. |
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| 02:37.07 | karsten | deadcat: ... shoot it to me in email, remind me of this conversation, I'll see about it. |
| 02:37.08 | deadcat | karsten: thansk. |
| 02:37.21 | deadcat | karsten: ok i am gonna email it to you then |
| 02:37.30 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: then it should be fine. Walk through the dependency list to check if you're still wondering what is going on. |
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| 02:38.22 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> i checked all dependencies, it still whant to install apache-common, i even asked to install apache2-common with it |
| 02:38.24 | ryan- | I'm having problems with my e1000 NIC |
| 02:38.39 | ryan- | getting a lot of bad TCP checksums |
| 02:38.43 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: well, apt-cache rdepends apache-common; and see what depends on it. |
| 02:39.13 | Schiz0 | I run a ftp server on both port 21 and 50105. Same exact database file for logins for both ports...I have a generic upload account and people can upload fine on it..I also have an account for a friend who I'm hosting a website for...and he cannot upload anything to it. |
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| 02:39.13 | Schiz0 | the ownership and permissions are correct on the dir...i even made it +777 at one point, still didn't work |
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| 02:39.13 | ryan- | under a 2.6.12.5 kernel I built. but all is well under debian's 2.6.8 kernel |
| 02:39.14 | Schiz0 | anyone know why this is happening? |
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| 02:39.27 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: hint: apache2-utils |
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| 02:40.13 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> yes i just saw that... but why? |
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| 02:40.14 | ryan- | damnit |
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| 02:40.22 | Schiz0 | erm..anyone else getting pms from those people that joined then parted? |
| 02:40.29 | dondelelcaro | Schiz0: /topic |
| 02:40.37 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: because it depends on apache-common in order to do something that it needs to be able to do. |
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| 02:40.43 | ryan- | Schiz0, yes. Blank PMs. |
| 02:40.46 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: apache-common is a relatively tiny package anyway. |
| 02:40.49 | Schiz0 | Ah, alright |
| 02:41.17 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> so, ther is nothing wrong in fact right? i was suspicious about that |
| 02:41.19 | ryan- | what does /umode +E do? |
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| 02:41.41 | dondelelcaro | !tell ryan- -about fn modes |
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| 02:44.27 | vortek | ehlo |
| 02:44.39 | vortek | does any one know why the 2.6 kernels insist on wanted devfs ? |
| 02:44.48 | vortek | or why its selected by defualt in the .config ? |
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| 02:46.00 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> can i remove /etc/apache /etc/apache-perl /etc/apache-ssl ? since i installed apache2 and that dirs are here because of phpmyadmin |
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| 02:46.51 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: use --purge to get rid of them. |
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| 02:47.31 | ddtcomp | anyone has an ati all in wonder? |
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| 02:47.47 | GoatRoby | anyone know what package smbmount is in? |
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| 02:48.04 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> they were not there before in installe phpmyadmin, i think it apache-common who did it |
| 02:48.06 | Schiz0 | GoatRoby- packages.debian.org and search the contents of a package |
| 02:48.08 | vortek | GoatRoby packages.debian.org does does |
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| 02:48.17 | GoatRoby | excellent |
| 02:48.22 | mage | hail packages.debian! |
| 02:48.23 | vortek | man these idiots with the flood bots are amatures lol |
| 02:48.24 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> but since i use apache2, i'm wondering if i can remove them |
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| 02:48.54 | vortek | does initrd realy depend on devfs ? |
| 02:49.09 | mage | initrd might use it |
| 02:49.15 | vortek | k |
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| 02:49.22 | vortek | its depreciated |
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| 02:49.29 | vortek | welp im gona try with out devfs |
| 02:49.34 | vortek | then with devfs |
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| 02:49.44 | vortek | the nwith out initrd and every thing c ompiled in for boot |
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| 02:49.48 | ddtcomp | anyone has an ati all in wonder? |
| 02:49.49 | vortek | at 40 minutes a compile this is bs |
| 02:49.50 | vortek | lol |
| 02:49.53 | ddtcomp | anyone has an ati all in wonder? |
| 02:49.54 | vortek | ddtcomp not eye |
| 02:50.02 | vortek | ahh crap im out of here |
| 02:50.04 | vortek | bbl |
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| 02:50.34 | mage | i wish i had one |
| 02:50.40 | ddtcomp | need help with tv tunner ati all in wonder 8500dv on debian |
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| 03:00.21 | xerophyte | is there any public news server i mean my rogers does not have all the groups |
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| 03:03.25 | smo_ | how can i do to get v4l and not v4l2 by default? |
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| 03:06.07 | jimm | so... |
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| 03:09.48 | jim | boop |
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| 03:10.37 | ryan- | ok |
| 03:10.38 | ryan- | so |
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| 03:10.45 | ryan- | still having problems with my e1000 |
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| 03:10.54 | ryan- | bad tcp checksums |
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| 03:11.40 | jim | maybe not all devices are communicating the same speed, and are therefore seen as noise |
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| 03:11.59 | aeacides | unrar is only in the unstable distribution?! |
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| 03:12.39 | jim | you can build a package for yourself or get a backport |
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| 03:12.46 | jim | but why bother with rar? |
| 03:12.58 | ryan- | jim: I'm plugged into a gigabit switch... |
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| 03:13.03 | ryan- | should be fine |
| 03:13.03 | jim | tuncay112: clonebot? |
| 03:13.09 | aeacides | what do you use when communicating file packages with windows usersL |
| 03:13.27 | huhcool | hey guys i'm trying to run a program with wine ... but it's saying that the program is requesting an Active X Browser object and that I don't have the Active X component installed in Mozilla or something like that. How can I go about getting this (or correcting this problem) ? |
| 03:13.37 | jim | tuncay112: evidently clonebot. |
| 03:13.37 | aeacides | i see now the non-free version is in stable. |
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| 03:14.25 | abrotman | still going on huh |
| 03:14.33 | abrotman | #winehq |
| 03:14.37 | jim | not annoyingly so |
| 03:14.40 | aeacides | do you think it's the gnaa still? |
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| 03:14.55 | jim | but yeah, they're weakly attempting to sortof annoy us |
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| 03:15.46 | black13 | why is xchat spawing tabs? |
| 03:15.58 | abrotman | black13: /topic |
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| 03:16.04 | jim | I'd be entertained if someone put one or more of those guys in jail |
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| 03:16.10 | Kronoz_ | becuase bots are pming people |
| 03:16.11 | jim | I'd be entertained if someone put one or more of those guys in jail |
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| 03:16.22 | abrotman | jim: we know |
| 03:16.28 | abrotman | you said :) |
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| 03:16.53 | jim | yeah, but they didn't hear the first time :P |
| 03:17.00 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 03:17.07 | abrotman | i don't htink they care .. just a hunch |
| 03:17.12 | black13 | abrotman i did the comman but i dont understand what is happening |
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| 03:17.19 | abrotman | black13: bots |
| 03:17.22 | jim | they would if someone succeeded in putting them in jail :) |
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| 03:18.24 | jim | so they are devoiced, is that right? |
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| 03:18.35 | abrotman | !tell edwards about away |
| 03:18.37 | abrotman | fucking idiot |
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| 03:18.52 | abrotman | jim: some of them .. they don't address anyone in the channel |
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| 03:19.01 | abrotman | jim: they just come in .. scan names .. then quit .. and start msging |
| 03:19.14 | Jaxalot | Hi, can someone tell me the bash command to restart X-server? |
| 03:19.26 | jim | info bash |
| 03:19.31 | Daveman | argh |
| 03:19.31 | abrotman | Jaxalot: which DM ? |
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| 03:19.39 | Stew | Jaxalot: /etc/init.d/?dm restart |
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| 03:19.47 | abrotman | STEW! |
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| 03:19.53 | Stew | aloha! |
| 03:20.03 | abrotman | well .. loks like i won't be getting any sleep |
| 03:20.11 | abrotman | looks |
| 03:20.18 | jim | I'm out... hand... |
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| 03:20.19 | stew | 'till brooklyn? |
| 03:20.22 | aeacides | is it common to get connection refused when contacting packages.debian.org? |
| 03:20.33 | abrotman | my landlord fell asleep with her TV on .. and it's seemingly full volume |
| 03:20.38 | stew | abrotman: no |
| 03:20.46 | stew | call 311 |
| 03:20.48 | Jaxalot | Oh, it's Gnome. That worked; thanks. |
| 03:20.48 | abrotman | and i think she's watching an Olivia Newton John concert |
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| 03:20.50 | jim | aeacides: "contacting"? |
| 03:20.52 | stew | aeacides: no |
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| 03:21.28 | aeacides | jim: I think that's the language firefox used. |
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| 03:21.36 | Daveman | can the deb package control archive have a preinst, as well as a postinst? |
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| 03:21.44 | abrotman | yyes |
| 03:21.53 | jim | aeacides: so presumably on port 80? |
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| 03:22.14 | aeacides | yes |
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| 03:22.21 | abrotman | timeout occurred while contacting packages.debian.org |
| 03:22.23 | Daveman | thanks abrotman |
| 03:22.30 | jim | aeacides: no, that's not normal |
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| 03:22.56 | mwilson | Daveman: Any number of them do. |
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| 03:23.07 | stew | packages.debian.org works fine from here |
| 03:23.11 | Daveman | heh, yeah okay ;) |
| 03:23.12 | abrotman | as here |
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| 03:23.22 | aeacides | it's intermittent here |
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| 03:23.31 | abrotman | get a new dns server |
| 03:23.37 | aeacides | lol |
| 03:23.42 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:23.59 | abrotman | - |
| 03:24.01 | aeacides | when it occurs, www.debian.org seems to work fine |
| 03:24.20 | aeacides | as long as my connection isn't being staggered for some reason |
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| 03:24.51 | CVirus | where does firefox stores its cached files ? |
| 03:25.04 | abrotman | .mozilla/firefox/cache ? |
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| 03:25.26 | CVirus | thanks |
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| 03:25.32 | jim | .firefox/somef0*7495345/cachje? |
| 03:25.38 | markd___ | Anyone know whats happened to the kde menus in sid? Mine on several machines have disappeared. |
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| 03:26.09 | abrotman | kde sucks? |
| 03:26.10 | jim | HAY LAAADDDEEEE! you took my menu and I was ordering!! |
| 03:26.12 | CVirus | jim: this is it |
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| 03:26.30 | stew | markd___: kde is going through some growing pains as parts of 3.4 are introduced into sid, expect breakage |
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| 03:26.54 | jim | the breakage also extends to any c++ thing |
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| 03:29.01 | markd___ | so is there any known fix the kde menus? |
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| 03:29.06 | black13 | abrotman what is going on with the bots? |
| 03:29.15 | stew | !hump black13 |
| 03:29.16 | abrotman | they hate us |
| 03:29.25 | abrotman | markd___: #debian-kde |
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| 03:29.33 | stew | markd___: bts |
| 03:29.34 | stew | maybe |
| 03:29.35 | black13 | i am new to using irc i want to understand |
| 03:29.49 | abrotman | black13: it's bots .. seem to be from infected windows machines |
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| 03:30.04 | black13 | why now? |
| 03:30.12 | abrotman | not now ... since about 5pm EST |
| 03:30.17 | abrotman | all night |
| 03:30.23 | black13 | wonderfull |
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| 03:30.25 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:30.36 | black13 | pain in the ass kids with to much time on there hands |
| 03:30.37 | stew | black13: somebody's zombie army is trying to recruit new zombies by sending malformed ansi graphics and seeing if anyone is vulnerable or something |
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| 03:30.42 | jim | the word "infected" probably goes without saying |
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| 03:31.09 | abrotman | jim: there are two windows machines that aren't infected in the world |
| 03:31.17 | abrotman | jim: DoD machines locked up in a closet :) |
| 03:31.23 | black13 | is there a way of leting somone know hey you infected fix your crap? |
| 03:31.34 | midg3t | not really |
| 03:31.38 | jim | so what would they be if they came out of the closet?! |
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| 03:31.43 | midg3t | abrotman: depends if you consider windows itself an infection |
| 03:31.47 | nylo | how do you do a more in the console ... i'm doing apt-cache search and the output doesn't pause ... |
| 03:31.48 | abrotman | i don't |
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| 03:32.02 | midg3t | nylo: apt-cache search foo | less |
| 03:32.02 | abrotman | nylo: | less or | more |
| 03:32.08 | jim | nylo: you understand | ? |
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| 03:32.15 | nylo | | |
| 03:32.17 | nylo | no |
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| 03:32.24 | nylo | if |
| 03:32.25 | abrotman | apt-cache search blah | more |
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| 03:32.40 | Daveman | when the preinst script is executed, what root is it relative to? |
| 03:32.58 | jim | nylo, you understand that some commands produce output, and usually on the screen? |
| 03:33.05 | midg3t | maybe it's easier to use apt-cache search blah | pager |
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| 03:33.08 | nylo | abrotman: is | like "and" |
| 03:33.14 | jim | no |
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| 03:33.17 | abrotman | nylo: no .. it's a pipe |
| 03:33.18 | aeacides | && is and |
| 03:33.27 | duncf | where should i look for a guide on getting stuff that works with g++ 3.x to work with g++-4.0? |
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| 03:33.32 | abrotman | or & .. depending on the type of AND you want |
| 03:33.34 | aeacides | i guess that's not what you're asking :) |
| 03:33.36 | nylo | i'm trying to understand the pipe |
| 03:33.40 | abrotman | !pipe |
| 03:33.40 | dpkg | | |
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| 03:33.42 | jim | nylo, you understand that some commands produce output, and usually on the screen? |
| 03:33.44 | abrotman | dpkg: you suck |
| 03:33.45 | dpkg | Dream on, abrotman. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 03:33.52 | abrotman | !| |
| 03:33.52 | dpkg | pipe |
| 03:33.54 | midg3t | pipe takes the output of one command and makes it the input of the next |
| 03:33.58 | abrotman | dpkg: you're dumb |
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| 03:34.04 | nylo | oh |
| 03:34.12 | nylo | got it |
| 03:34.12 | Daveman | :\ |
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| 03:34.14 | quitte_ | can i tell apt to not install a certain package ever? |
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| 03:34.37 | abrotman | quitte_: like what? |
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| 03:34.54 | nylo | trying to get mono installed with asp.net support should i install stable testing or unstable? |
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| 03:35.05 | abrotman | #debian-mono |
| 03:35.11 | nylo | k |
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| 03:36.15 | Daveman | is the preinst run against the real root? |
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| 03:36.50 | quitte_ | abrotman libstdc++5 |
| 03:37.01 | abrotman | why wouldn't you want that? |
| 03:37.03 | Kvant | quitte_, read about priorities in "man apt_preferences", it may be possible to do that by assigning a priority <0 |
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| 03:37.17 | abrotman | i'm not sure if you can put an unisntalled package on hold |
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| 03:37.38 | quitte_ | Kvant thanks |
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| 03:37.44 | Daveman | :P |
| 03:37.48 | abrotman | wait .. waht? |
| 03:37.53 | abrotman | oh .. dunno .. |
| 03:37.59 | abrotman | Daveman: why? |
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| 03:38.11 | SigmaX | Anybody ever had their web browser... rather... whole computer... only resolve DNS addresses to the local web server? |
| 03:38.14 | Daveman | ... it's obviously a very important question :P |
| 03:38.26 | Daveman | heh |
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| 03:38.26 | SigmaX | That's what mine's doin'. |
| 03:38.27 | abrotman | Daveman: i meant .. why does it matter |
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| 03:38.46 | Daveman | abrotman, well will it be manipulating the contents of the fakeroot or the real one |
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| 03:38.55 | Daveman | personally I could want to rm -rf / |
| 03:38.55 | CasaNova_ | I forgot howo to get apt-cache to show me all the packages available (I want to install gcc-3.3.6 and have it be default) |
| 03:38.57 | Daveman | I wouldn't |
| 03:38.59 | Daveman | rather |
| 03:39.15 | abrotman | Daveman: why are you changing that again? |
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| 03:39.22 | SigmaX | n/m... think I found my problem. *ahem*... thanx all ;-) |
| 03:39.24 | Daveman | changing what? again? |
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| 03:39.43 | abrotman | SigmaX: glad we could help |
| 03:39.44 | quitte_ | !ops lots of onjoinspam |
| 03:39.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: lots of onjoinspam |
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| 03:39.52 | abrotman | quitte_: no dumb ass .. read the topic |
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| 03:40.03 | Rez | quitte_: /umode +E |
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| 03:40.14 | SigmaX | abrotman: Sure thing! t'hee. Had my local hostname in my resolv.conf's search setting... dunno how it go there. |
| 03:40.22 | abrotman | SigmaX: doh! |
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| 03:40.47 | Daveman | :\ |
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| 03:40.52 | quitte_ | abrotman: dumb ass, eh? i cant hear you anymore |
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| 03:41.19 | abrotman | oh .. boohoo |
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| 03:41.27 | Daveman | heh |
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| 03:42.01 | abrotman | Daveman: i'm not sure where the scripts run from .. you shouldn't ever assume it runs form anywhere .. make all commands use a full path |
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| 03:43.19 | bucky | !test |
| 03:43.19 | dpkg | Sorry, bucky, I didn't get your test. |
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| 03:43.38 | eps | does any one have the deb lines for sources.list to get the latest openoffice snapshot builds? |
| 03:43.54 | abrotman | eps: i'm not aware of any .. try apt-get.org ? |
| 03:43.58 | abrotman | or #debian-oo |
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| 03:44.10 | eps | thanks abrotman :) |
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| 03:44.47 | sn00p | Has anybody ever used vmware under debian? |
| 03:44.53 | abrotman | hey guys .. i think there's a bot problem |
| 03:45.11 | eps | sn00p I have |
| 03:45.15 | eps | abrotman yeah... silly bots |
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| 03:45.21 | abrotman | sn00p: did you ask #vmware ? |
| 03:45.25 | sn00p | eps: what version? |
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| 03:45.33 | poncho | Hello! |
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| 03:45.45 | eps | sn00p erm.. 4.1? |
| 03:45.48 | eps | I'll look |
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| 03:45.56 | mwilson | wow... like the end of an era |
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| 03:46.01 | mwilson | walter reed is going to close |
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| 03:46.12 | abrotman | mwilson: yeah .. they say the building is out of date .. |
| 03:46.20 | sn00p | eps: did you use it to have XP under linux? |
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| 03:46.31 | eps | sn00p yes |
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| 03:46.44 | sn00p | eps: did it work for you? |
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| 03:46.53 | eps | sn00p it was one of the newer versions, can't remember the specifics |
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| 03:47.00 | eps | sn00p yes, rather nicely :) |
| 03:47.12 | sn00p | eps: 5.0?? |
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| 03:47.50 | johnga1t | x11 question: do i need to have successfully started X locally ever to get a remote X session working? |
| 03:47.50 | mwilson | sn00p: I suppose there's some reason you're not using the tech support you paid for? |
| 03:47.53 | eps | sn00p I think it was a 4.x branch |
| 03:47.58 | sn00p | eps: i 'm just wondering so that I know if it'll work so I wont waste my time d/l'ing it |
| 03:47.58 | mwilson | johnNo. |
| 03:48.04 | quitte_ | it seems pinning a package that isnt installed actually doesnt work. any other ideas how i can prevent libstdc++5 to get installed? |
| 03:48.08 | mwilson | johnga1t: No. |
| 03:48.10 | eps | sn00p what specs do you have? |
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| 03:48.20 | abrotman | #vmware |
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| 03:48.31 | black13 | i love vmware |
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| 03:48.41 | sn00p | eps: it was from the apt source? when I did apt-cache search it wasn't in there |
| 03:48.48 | abrotman | sn00p: #vmware |
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| 03:48.52 | black13 | i am using it right now |
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| 03:48.57 | eps | black13 it only has limited uses for me, apart from the fun of playing around with it I think I wasted a bit of money :P |
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| 03:49.12 | eps | sn00p it is comerical software, you have to pay for it |
| 03:49.13 | mwilson | sn00p: What gave you the idea Debian packaged vmware? |
| 03:49.22 | black13 | epts great for testing bootable cd images |
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| 03:49.32 | johnga1t | mwilson: k. then i'm having some other problem auth.log:error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket |
| 03:49.36 | eps | can a mod please set +m unless this bots stop? else I'm just going to leave |
| 03:49.43 | black13 | i dont have to make what might be a dead cd |
| 03:49.47 | abrotman | eps: /umode +E |
| 03:49.52 | sn00p | mwilson: eps said he got it from a branch |
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| 03:50.01 | abrotman | sn00p: he did not |
| 03:50.02 | eps | abrotman thanks :) |
| 03:50.09 | mwilson | sn00p: Good for eps. Doesn't make it true. |
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| 03:50.13 | eps | branch as in 4.x :) |
| 03:50.15 | sn00p | Branch 4.X |
| 03:50.21 | sn00p | He said |
| 03:50.24 | abrotman | #vmware |
| 03:50.26 | abrotman | go ask #vmware |
| 03:50.27 | eps | that branch of the version you silly newb :) |
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| 03:50.48 | mwilson | sn00p: Is it really so important to find someone to steal vmware from? |
| 03:50.56 | sn00p | I thought you mean the source tree |
| 03:51.05 | abrotman | oh . i have the source to vmware |
| 03:51.09 | sn00p | mwilson: i'm d/l'ing it right now |
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| 03:51.24 | sn00p | no the source tree for the debian apt-get |
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| 03:51.48 | eps | eps@zoidberg:~$ aptitude search vmware |
| 03:51.48 | eps | eps@zoidberg:~$ |
| 03:51.50 | eps | ^^ doubt it |
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| 03:52.06 | sn00p | heh |
| 03:52.16 | sn00p | I'm just wondering if it works well for you ;) |
| 03:52.22 | sn00p | shesh |
| 03:52.22 | sn00p | !! |
| 03:52.22 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
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| 03:52.29 | bucky | is anyone else getting /PRVMSG after /PRVMSG |
| 03:52.30 | abrotman | !vmware |
| 03:52.30 | dpkg | i guess vmware is for 2.6 kernels, download the patches from ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware, read the README, or #vmware, or vmware 5.0 supports 2.6 kernels happily |
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| 03:52.34 | eps | abrotman what is the specifics of +E? I am not aware of it, (is it events?) |
| 03:52.43 | abrotman | eps: /msg dpkg fn modes |
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| 03:52.53 | eps | thx |
| 03:52.56 | abrotman | unregistered users can't msg you |
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| 03:53.03 | sn00p | eps: What kernel you use? |
| 03:53.14 | eps | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 03:53.16 | abrotman | that's not even english |
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| 03:53.27 | sn00p | ok |
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| 03:53.43 | johnga1t | anyone know if there's anything weird w/ 2.6 kernel and remote X sessions? |
| 03:53.43 | sn00p | eps: I guess it only works on 2.6? |
| 03:53.47 | eps | abrotman when is sid going to 2.6.12? in the near future or not for awhile? |
| 03:53.56 | eps | sn00p no idea, ask in #vmware |
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| 03:54.06 | quitte_ | eps uhm it already did? |
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| 03:54.08 | abrotman | eps: i thought it did .. |
| 03:54.09 | mwilson | eps: Uh, it already has. |
| 03:54.20 | mwilson | Typical unstable user. |
| 03:54.21 | eps | I see :| |
| 03:54.30 | JeffH_ | my self-signed cert for my web server expired.. is there a way to change the expiration or do I just regenerate a new cert? |
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| 03:54.34 | eps | I did look for it last week :P |
| 03:54.43 | abrotman | and it was there then |
| 03:54.43 | sn00p | mwilson: What are you getting at? |
| 03:54.44 | mwilson | eps: Then you didn't look very hard. |
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| 03:55.03 | quitte_ | eps its linux-image now |
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| 03:55.04 | eps | oh, it is the stock kernel now |
| 03:55.11 | eps | no wonder I missed it |
| 03:55.12 | nvz | mwilson: how do you know? Maybe he looked _VERY_ hard in all the wrong places. ;) |
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| 03:55.24 | mwilson | eps: Define "stock kernel". |
| 03:55.29 | eps | yay, .12 has drivers for some of my hardware that .8 doesn't :P |
| 03:55.31 | sn00p | The last time I upgraded a debian kernel is when I got a kernel panic |
| 03:55.33 | Guerin | grrr, wtf, irssi is trying to join channels before registering with nickserv |
| 03:55.40 | eps | mwilson 2.6-386 |
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| 03:55.57 | mwilson | Ok, well, that was utter nonsense. |
| 03:56.03 | sn00p | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:56.16 | sn00p | configuration |
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| 03:56.32 | nvz | Guerin: did you ever look at the getting started guide or whatever that was titled? there was something in there about putting a wait on those commands so that didnt happen |
| 03:56.46 | nvz | Guerin: mine does that too, but thats because I didnt do what it said in there |
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| 03:57.08 | black13 | i know that that my kernel and initial ram disk are dated |
| 03:57.09 | mwilson | Mine doesn't, but then again that's because I don't use irssi. |
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| 03:57.15 | nvz | heh |
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| 03:57.28 | abrotman | mwilson is a closet mirc user |
| 03:57.34 | abrotman | he runs it in wine |
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| 03:57.35 | quitte_ | im aware it will break a lot of things. but i have a system without libstdc++5 and i want to keep it like that. even if i have to recompile tons of packages myself. but how can i do it without apt always trying to install and not telling me which package causes it? |
| 03:57.37 | eps | lol |
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| 03:58.06 | mwilson | quitte_: You care because...? |
| 03:58.07 | abrotman | ok .. let me do something i know will break tons of shit .. for no good reason |
| 03:58.07 | CasaNova_ | How do I get apt-cache to show me all package version of gcc (it only shows me 3.3 - not the 3.3.6 or third digit I need to know) |
| 03:58.10 | nvz | abrotman: yeah yeah.. you know he runs the old 16 bit version on wfw 3.11 with TCP/IP package |
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| 03:58.12 | abrotman | yay stupid people |
| 03:58.14 | black13 | and i dont know where to start |
| 03:58.25 | quitte_ | mwilson: do i really have to explain. it's a pretty long story |
| 03:58.31 | abrotman | nvz: yeah .. that's the one true path! |
| 03:58.33 | Guerin | nvz: yeah, this hasn't been an issue until #debian went +r |
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| 03:58.44 | abrotman | Guerin: it's not |
| 03:58.51 | abrotman | Guerin: it was .. hours ago .. not anymore |
| 03:58.55 | nvz | it was earlier when helix was around |
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| 03:59.12 | mwilson | What *is* she doing any more, anyway? |
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| 03:59.18 | Guerin | well, i just bumped into #debian-overflow for not being registered yet |
| 03:59.25 | nvz | who knows, living her life and not talking to us |
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| 03:59.27 | quitte_ | mwilson: if you knew how to do it and changed that information for a story that'd change things of course |
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| 03:59.32 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: nah, we're running close to the join limiter |
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| 04:00.03 | mwilson | quitte_: Nah, academic interest only... I always wonder why people try to deliberately break things. |
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| 04:00.26 | mwilson | nvz: Wonder if she's still doing Debian Women. |
| 04:00.31 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: there's no reason why you couldn't pin it. |
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| 04:00.47 | abrotman | mwilson: probably |
| 04:00.49 | nvz | mwilson: couldnt tell you. I am not part of that. |
| 04:00.56 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro hmm then i must have done it wrong somehow. |
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| 04:00.58 | nvz | they'd probably kick me out if I was |
| 04:00.58 | abrotman | can you hold a package that isn't installed ? |
| 04:01.09 | mwilson | abrotman: Unfortunately, no. |
| 04:01.12 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: just set its priority to less than 0, and it shouldn't be installed unless you specifically install it. |
| 04:01.18 | abrotman | nvz: they have other guys participating i think |
| 04:01.22 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: right-o, then |
| 04:01.36 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: ah! _less_. thanks |
| 04:01.42 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: Doesn't that still allow a dependency to install it? |
| 04:01.50 | nvz | abrotman: yeah well you see how the ladies have taken to me around here in teh past :P |
| 04:02.05 | abrotman | nvz: it's because you're from pittsburgh .. home of all the studs |
| 04:02.10 | nvz | heh |
| 04:02.22 | abrotman | something about the water :) |
| 04:02.24 | CasaNova_ | If I have both gcc-3.3 and gcc4.0 installed can I safely remove gcc-4.0 (will 3.3 become default then ?) |
| 04:02.24 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: hmm no that wasnt the mistake |
| 04:02.36 | quitte_ | CasaNova_: no. |
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| 04:02.45 | mwilson | CasaNova_: You have no reason to remove gcc 4.x. If you think you do, you are mistaken. |
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| 04:03.13 | nvz | abrotman: yeah.. I still havent gotten any conclusive research done about my theory that the reason the girls are so good looking is "it's in the chicken" |
| 04:03.16 | quitte_ | CasaNova_: you can savely remove gcc-3.3 though |
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| 04:03.26 | abrotman | nvz: you mean in pittsburgh? |
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| 04:03.34 | abrotman | nvz: you must drink way more than i thought |
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| 04:03.40 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: yes, a dependency will still install it if required. |
| 04:03.43 | nvz | abrotman: I am going to have to start asking girls if they like chicken |
| 04:03.48 | CasaNova_ | mwilson - I need to compile vmware modules, the kernel I'm running 2.6.8-11 is compiled wiht 3.3.6 - vmware kernel mods won;t compile unless gcc version matches the version of gcc that was used for kernel (debian kerenl apt-gett'ed) |
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| 04:03.55 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: He wants to make it impossible to install the package. |
| 04:03.56 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: thats exactly the problem im having |
| 04:04.00 | mwilson | CasaNova_: Yes, so? |
| 04:04.11 | abrotman | can you hold a package that isn't installed? |
| 04:04.12 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: so install a equivs package that provides it and conflicts with it. |
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| 04:04.25 | mwilson | CasaNova_: Then use the proper compiler. |
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| 04:04.28 | rixth | How do I format a floppy? |
| 04:04.32 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: then set the pin to < 0. |
| 04:04.37 | CasaNova_ | mwilson- not exactly sure how to... |
| 04:04.37 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: not a very nice solution. oh well. |
| 04:04.42 | mwilson | CasaNova_: What does that have to do with removing one or the other. |
| 04:04.48 | Guerin | CasaNova_: then you're unqualified to be building kernel modules |
| 04:04.48 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: *shrug*; you're asking to do a rather silly thing. |
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| 04:04.59 | CasaNova_ | mwilson - I tried just pointing gcc link to gcc3.3 but that didnt seem to work... |
| 04:05.03 | nvz | abrotman: nobody goes to pittsburgh to meet women.. you go to Sewickley or Moon Township, or up to the Mall at Robinson or somewhere |
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| 04:05.06 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: what exactly are you trying to do, anyway? |
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| 04:05.18 | nvz | abrotman: Moon Township should be called Poon Town |
| 04:05.23 | mwilson | CasaNova_: You mean you tried to deliberately break the compiler by messing with a symlink you didn't understand. |
| 04:05.26 | Guerin | nvz: you have to go to some specific place to 'meet women'? |
| 04:05.31 | CasaNova_ | Guerin: normally just running the script works, when the installed gcc version and the version used to compile the kernel match! |
| 04:05.32 | bucky | rixth, fdformat |
| 04:05.36 | Guerin | are there not women all over the place? |
| 04:05.38 | rixth | bucky, thanks |
| 04:05.40 | nvz | Guerin: no not really. but we are talking about pretty ones |
| 04:05.44 | dondelelcaro | CasaNova_: yes, so set HOSTCC and CC properly when you call make. |
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| 04:05.45 | Guerin | nvz: ... |
| 04:05.46 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: sort of travelling in the future. want a scratchbox toolchain i dont have to eventually change in a few weeks. |
| 04:05.52 | nvz | Guerin: and in my example wealthy ones too |
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| 04:05.58 | abrotman | nvz: i'll take your word for it :) |
| 04:06.08 | Guerin | nvz: those being by far the two most important attributes in a woman ... |
| 04:06.10 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: you mean, you're installing your own version of libstdc++ and you don't want debian's version to overwrite it? |
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| 04:06.30 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: no i want to be sure libstdc++6 is used |
| 04:06.34 | CasaNova_ | Wow the night of the walking helpful folks in here... |
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| 04:06.51 | nvz | Guerin: well.. doesnt hurt |
| 04:06.54 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: and the same for a few other packages |
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| 04:07.01 | Guerin | nvz: ... |
| 04:07.05 | eps | CasaNova_ welcome to free help :) |
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| 04:07.28 | black13 | does debian have tools to make initial ram disks? |
| 04:07.29 | CasaNova_ | Aww it's normally not this bad, the bots must have pO'ed everyone... |
| 04:07.34 | mwilson | CasaNova_: <shrug> You have no idea how things work. When you're told how they work, you disagree. Somehow I don't think it's US that're being unhelpful. |
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| 04:07.39 | rixth | Whenever I try and open a floppy in Nautilus, I get 'mount: you must specify the filesystem type' |
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| 04:07.52 | nvz | Guerin: personally neither is important to me. persona is the deciding factor for me.. and I cant really tell just by looking at a girl if I will like her.. |
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| 04:07.58 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: and why not have them both installed? surely the packages can determine which they want to build against |
| 04:08.13 | CasaNova_ | mwilson - I don't recall disagreeing - but I do recall trying to clarify, I will never understand if I dont know what is being said, so I try to clarify - apologies... |
| 04:08.16 | nvz | Guerin: but we were talking about the effects of chicken on a woman's sexual appeal |
| 04:08.31 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: or, you just modulate the Build-Depends; and do the building in a chroot, with an error if they depend upon libstdc++5 |
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| 04:08.59 | mwilson | CasaNova_: But Guerin's statement is ultimately correct. |
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| 04:09.05 | dondelelcaro | CasaNova_: again, set HOSTCC and CC properly when you call make; that's how you specify the compiler. |
| 04:09.15 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: it's not a debian package im building. it's a cross build environment containing lots of debians stuff. |
| 04:09.40 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: so i cant check build-depends that way |
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| 04:09.48 | dondelelcaro | quitte_: ah; well, in any case, the equivs package is the trivial method to do this sort of thing. |
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| 04:10.20 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: yes. thanks. about to rebuild it ;) |
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| 04:10.33 | quitte_ | dondelelcaro: or debhelper,rather |
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| 04:10.47 | CasaNova_ | mwilson - also I've successfully installed the needed vmware kernel mods everytime the kernel has changed. This time I get the error - The vmware script does not use make - it only requires the compiler version match te version that was used to compile the kernel. Since 2.6.11-1 was compiled with 3.3.6 and I now have gcc 4.0 it won't work, I see I also have gcc-3.3 installed. |
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| 04:11.25 | mwilson | CasaNova_: If you say so. |
| 04:11.41 | nvz | I see we are back to having random 0wned people dropping by |
| 04:11.45 | epsilon | are running "adduser", and adding new use/group manually in /etc/passwd & passwd & creating /home the same? |
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| 04:12.02 | rixth | Whenever I try and open a floppy in Nautilus, I get the error 'mount: you must specify the filesystem type' even though I have formatted the disk |
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| 04:12.13 | mwilson | :open a floppy"? |
| 04:12.29 | rixth | mwilson, read a floppy, then |
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| 04:12.55 | CasaNova_ | mwilson _ I want to understand , truly, but that doesn't help. Is there a kernel package (deb) that is compiled with 4.0? |
| 04:12.58 | nvz | as if formatting the disk means you can leave out the filesystem you formatted it with |
| 04:13.08 | dondelelcaro | epsilon: generally not. |
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| 04:13.24 | dondelelcaro | epsilon: adduser can do different things depending on the way its invoked and the local configuration of the site. |
| 04:13.31 | mwilson | nvz: What does formatting a floppy have to do with putting a filesystem on one? |
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| 04:14.07 | mwilson | CasaNova_: I have no idea. I'd never use a Debian kernel package, so I have no reason to keep track of what compiler is used to build them. |
| 04:14.13 | rixth | I need to make it vfat. I have to put SATA drivers on it so I can install XP on another computer |
| 04:14.13 | epsilon | dondelelcaro: so if I add user/group manually, it has the same effect (user is added on local box) as adduser? |
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| 04:15.01 | nvz | mwilson: since when does formatting mean anything but putting a filesystem on it |
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| 04:15.14 | majnoon | what is dpkg help for converting over TO a debian install from something else ?? |
| 04:15.16 | mwilson | nvz: Since pretty much forever. |
| 04:15.18 | dondelelcaro | epsilon: probably. |
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| 04:15.53 | dondelelcaro | epsilon: it really depends on how you're invoking adduser. You're generally better off using adduser unless there is a valid reason not to. (And there's rarely a valid reason not to.) |
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| 04:16.15 | nvz | mwilson: what _is_ formatting then? since my term is apperently learned from a dos format command or something |
| 04:16.22 | rixth | Okay, enough bickering you two, help me! |
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| 04:16.46 | Guerin | !tell majnoon about debootstrap |
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| 04:17.51 | rixth | All I want to do is write 250kb of data to a floppy |
| 04:18.02 | mwilson | nvz: Formatting is the act of creating tracks and sectors. A filesystem is just data written on a disk. |
| 04:18.07 | majnoon | working on that now netinstall didn't work |
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| 04:18.41 | Dewi | could anyone tell me where screen saver configuration is *supposed* to be found in the current gnome? |
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| 04:19.06 | rixth | Bot! |
| 04:19.07 | Guerin | !#gnome |
| 04:19.07 | dpkg | The gnome IRC channel is #gnome at irc.gnome.org, or for debian gnome related use #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
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| 04:19.27 | Dewi | Guerin: thanks |
| 04:19.34 | Guerin | Dewi: NFWM |
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| 04:20.21 | nvz | mwilson: afaik a high-level format is specific to the filesystem and in turn actually writes the filesystem as part of the formatting where as a low-level format is writing the disk to all zero's by the disk controller to its factory state |
| 04:20.29 | rixth | So, cai I get any help here? |
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| 04:22.18 | ofer0 | i installed windows XP in order to use my digital camera, and it overwrited my MBR. how to reinstall grub? (i am already running a livecd) |
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| 04:22.55 | Guerin | ofer0: you have a digital camera that requires windows XP?!?!?!1 |
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| 04:23.31 | quitte_ | most digital cameras ive seen just worked with debian and gnome. even a window popped up after plugging them in. |
| 04:23.34 | ofer0 | Guerin, well, when i use linux i have to download all the pictures and the movies in order to view them, and its realy alot |
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| 04:23.45 | Guerin | !alot |
| 04:23.46 | dpkg | Yeah, I'd like to allot a lot of time for the slow killing of dumb motherfuckers who think a lot is one word. |
| 04:23.48 | quitte_ | all i've seen in fact |
| 04:24.07 | ofer0 | heh Guerin :) sorry |
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| 04:24.19 | ofer0 | so.. can you help reinstalling my grub? |
| 04:24.30 | Guerin | ofer0: the answer is to mount your / and /boot partitions, chroot to your /, and run grub-install && update-grub |
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| 04:24.34 | Guerin | yeah :) |
| 04:24.50 | ofer0 | ok thanx Guerin, ill try that now |
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| 04:25.00 | JunK-Y | when trying to compile zaptel, im getting this: http://pastebin.com/347399 , but my linux-kernel-headers are the latest package, any idea? |
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| 04:25.17 | nvz | something called Wikimedia, whatever the hell that is, is doing a 21day fundraiser.. seems to me like 21 days is not long enough for a fundraiser online.. maybe on a nation-wide or world-wide telethon 1-21days is enough.. but online where there are billions of websites and no guarentee anyone will see yours.. this doesnt seem like long enough to generate money |
| 04:25.25 | rixth | Okay then, how do I make the filesystem on a floppy FAT? |
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| 04:25.39 | nvz | I mean freenode usually runs its fundraiser for what like 3 months or so? |
| 04:25.54 | rixth | nvz, well they have like $90,000 already |
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| 04:26.16 | nvz | rixth: yeah I guess. |
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| 04:26.35 | ofer0 | Guerin, after chrooting i need to env-update and source /etc/profile? |
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| 04:26.51 | Guerin | ofer0: nope |
| 04:26.54 | ofer0 | k |
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| 04:27.36 | rixth | Geez guys, you have an argument over formatting vs. filesystem but the original question gets overlooked... |
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| 04:27.43 | rixth | How can I write data to this floppy? |
| 04:27.55 | Guerin | rixth: i haven't used a floppy disk in over 5 years |
| 04:27.55 | quitte_ | rixth: mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0 |
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| 04:28.01 | Guerin | and I don't intend to start now |
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| 04:28.08 | rixth | It needs to be readable by the WindowsXP setup |
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| 04:28.14 | ofer0 | Guerin, ?/dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.? |
| 04:28.16 | Guerin | i don't even have a working floppy drive in any of my computers |
| 04:28.21 | ofer0 | Guerin, any idea? |
| 04:28.22 | rixth | mkfs.vfat command not found |
| 04:28.32 | ofer0 | Guerin, the command was grub-install /dev/hda |
| 04:28.35 | quitte_ | rixth install dosfstools |
| 04:28.36 | Guerin | ofer0: you want to run grub-install -dev/hda |
| 04:28.36 | nvz | yeah I havent even seen a floppy in over 5 years.. everytime I get a pc with a floppy drive I take it and the cables out and throw them in the trash |
| 04:28.44 | Guerin | ofer0: oops |
| 04:28.50 | Guerin | s#-#/# |
| 04:29.04 | ofer0 | it gives me the above error |
| 04:29.05 | Guerin | ofer0: your line was correct ... did it error, or what? |
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| 04:29.14 | nvz | I've probably thrown away more than $2,000 in floppy drives and accessories in the past 5 years |
| 04:29.15 | Guerin | did it exit without acting, I mean |
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| 04:29.26 | ofer0 | root@slax:/ # grub-install /dev/hda........... /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. |
| 04:29.37 | Guerin | ofer0: echo $? |
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| 04:29.48 | ofer0 | what? |
| 04:29.51 | ofer0 | echo $ ? |
| 04:29.55 | nvz | shit probably worked too.. but I wasnt going to go downtown to the museum to find a floppy to test it with |
| 04:29.55 | majnoon | trying base-config new in chroot and all it say is "Terminated" |
| 04:29.58 | ofer0 | oh, 0 |
| 04:30.00 | Guerin | ofer0: just type the command and tell me the number that's output |
| 04:30.03 | ofer0 | 0 |
| 04:30.09 | Guerin | ofer0: ok, so it finished anyway |
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| 04:30.18 | Guerin | ofer0: 0 means "success" in this case |
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| 04:30.23 | ofer0 | heh ok :) |
| 04:30.24 | Guerin | or it should, anyway |
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| 04:30.39 | ofer0 | now if ill reboot, the grub will work? |
| 04:30.47 | Guerin | ofer0: did update-grub run/ |
| 04:30.48 | Guerin | ? |
| 04:30.54 | ofer0 | ill do it now |
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| 04:30.58 | nvz | this join flooding is getting old |
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| 04:31.08 | ofer0 | done guerin. thats it? |
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| 04:31.14 | Guerin | ofer0: should be |
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| 04:32.05 | ofer0 | thank you very much. windows is so imperious =\ |
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| 04:32.45 | ofer0 | be back after a reboot |
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| 04:33.13 | nvz | its a good thing I am not staff I would have banned [80-89].*.*.* by now |
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| 04:35.06 | nvz | and [200-299].*.*.* |
| 04:35.08 | nvz | ffs |
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| 04:36.21 | ksmurf | How do you get sound (creative Audigy 2) Going in debian?..... I have install Alsa and see is come up but I have no sound. Also I have no dpkg-reconfigure ability on this system. This system is a mix of stable testing and unstable running a smp 2.6.12 kernal if that helps |
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| 04:36.56 | ricochet | question: running sid on 2 boxes, on one box, my kde "start menu" has no items in it. The other system, same setup, does. |
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| 04:37.20 | nvz | ksmurf: sure helps us realize you arent running debian and that we shouldn't get involved with that headache |
| 04:37.21 | Guerin | !kernal |
| 04:37.21 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
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| 04:37.55 | Guerin | nvz: um, he's running "a mix of stable testing and unstable" - sounds like debian to me |
| 04:37.59 | Guerin | not that it's sane or anything |
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| 04:38.11 | nvz | Guerin: what part of debian policy governs mixing distros? |
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| 04:38.20 | nvz | Guerin: and how is that any different from the spinoffs |
| 04:38.22 | ksmurf | sorry I guess I came to the wrong place... sorry for the bother |
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| 04:38.31 | Guerin | nvz: what a redicuplous question |
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| 04:38.37 | nvz | ksmurf: no you just over complicated the issue |
| 04:38.37 | Guerin | ksmurf: nope... not really |
| 04:38.52 | initiate | i need some help with my ram |
| 04:38.56 | Guerin | ksmurf: /msg dpkg sound |
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| 04:39.18 | ksmurf | I left ubuntu and kanotix and have only been using gnu/linux for 10 wks (full time) |
| 04:39.19 | initiate | i have 768 ram installed and debian is using 99% of them constantly |
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| 04:39.34 | Guerin | initiate: that's a good thing |
| 04:39.36 | ricochet | can someone block these things pm-ing me? |
| 04:39.42 | Guerin | !tell initiate about free ram |
| 04:39.43 | nvz | ricochet: /topic |
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| 04:39.46 | Guerin | ricochet: nope. |
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| 04:40.02 | quitte_ | initiate: thats good. you wouldnt want to have ram that isnt used, would you? |
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| 04:40.05 | ricochet | didn't know if that is what a spambot was. |
| 04:40.06 | Guerin | nvz: debian distributes the means to mix distributions and instructions on how to do it. |
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| 04:40.41 | eps | silly kernel-headers :| |
| 04:40.41 | Guerin | nvz: doesn't mean it's a good idea, doesn't mean it's going to get supported by #debian, but it IS still debian. |
| 04:40.41 | initiate | quitte_, well sometimes i do actually |
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| 04:40.50 | Guerin | initiate: no, you don't. |
| 04:40.58 | Guerin | initiate: free ram is wasted ram. |
| 04:41.01 | ksmurf | Thank you for that. |
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| 04:41.12 | initiate | it really slows down some things |
| 04:41.13 | Devrethman | hey all |
| 04:41.22 | z|bandito | whats mode +E? |
| 04:41.28 | nvz | Guerin: yeah well how does that apply to the BTS and free support? what good does it do to report bugs that foo(stable) doesnt work with libbar(unstable) and libfoobar1(testing)? |
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| 04:41.35 | initiate | especially while using Firefox |
| 04:41.36 | Guerin | initiate: paste the +/- buffers/cache line of 'free' |
| 04:41.47 | quitte_ | initiate: no it does not. /msg dpkg free ram |
| 04:41.50 | Guerin | nvz: that wasn't the issue. |
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| 04:42.15 | dondelelcaro | !tell z|bandito -about fn modes |
| 04:42.15 | nvz | Guerin: we already knew that, thats why foo(stable) depends on libbar(stable) and libfoobar1(stable) |
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| 04:42.26 | Guerin | z|bandito: require those messaging you to be registered with nickserv |
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| 04:42.39 | initiate | -/+ buffers/cache: 145964 630036 |
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| 04:42.46 | quitte_ | maybe debians free should behave like i heard solaris does and show buffers and cache as free ram |
| 04:42.54 | Guerin | initiate: you have nearly 64MB ram unused |
| 04:43.00 | Guerin | quitte_: it DOES |
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| 04:43.12 | Daffy-PKF | can someone tell me if he saw the apache default page here: http://vue.dnsalias.net |
| 04:43.27 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: more like 630M |
| 04:43.32 | Guerin | eh |
| 04:43.34 | Guerin | right |
| 04:43.34 | quitte_ | Guerin: no. it doesnt show it as free |
| 04:43.37 | initiate | isn't that 640 ram Guerin ? |
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| 04:43.50 | Dewi | Daffy-PKF: I'm getting a big long delay |
| 04:43.52 | Guerin | quitte_: go and look at the output of 'free' and you'll see it does, on the line pasted above |
| 04:43.57 | Guerin | initiate: yeah, it is |
| 04:43.59 | Guerin | dropped a 0 there |
| 04:44.04 | initiate | didn't see what dondelelcaro said |
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| 04:44.07 | eutopia | i did "sdd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb" so now is my hdb able to be booted from ? |
| 04:44.08 | initiate | anyway |
| 04:44.09 | Daffy-PKF | Dewi> yes... but does it show the page? |
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| 04:44.15 | eps | bbs |
| 04:44.18 | initiate | firefox is still acting slow |
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| 04:44.22 | initiate | and i mean *SLOW* |
| 04:44.27 | Dewi | Daffy-PKF: no. not yet. |
| 04:44.30 | eutopia | initiate: virus? |
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| 04:44.31 | dondelelcaro | initiate: slow in what way? |
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| 04:44.35 | quitte_ | Guerin: no it doesnt sum free+buffers+cache and shows it instead of free. |
| 04:44.38 | Guerin | initiate: got any plugins or extensions? |
| 04:44.40 | Daffy-PKF | Dewi> it's not normal... |
| 04:44.42 | initiate | slow in loading pages |
| 04:44.49 | initiate | only flash plugin Guerin |
| 04:44.54 | initiate | i don't think it's a virus |
| 04:44.54 | Guerin | initiate: hahaha |
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| 04:45.01 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: i did that command you gave me yesterday ; "sdd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb" so now is my hdb able to be booted from just like my hda is? |
| 04:45.09 | Guerin | initiate: the flash plugin is the dirtiest piece of shit ever |
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| 04:45.25 | initiate | so if i remove it ... it should work smooth ? |
| 04:45.28 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: yes, but it won't mount the correct drive unless you switch which one is the slave and which is the master. |
| 04:45.31 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: can I change hard drives and have my hdb boot as normal like my hda did? |
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| 04:45.50 | Devrethman | how do I get the installer to recognize my nvidia raid array? |
| 04:45.51 | Daffy-PKF | can someone help me find some iptables rules so that i can access my webserver from the lan AND from internet correctly? iptables acts on 192.168.0.1 and apache is on 192.168.0.2 |
| 04:45.53 | Guerin | initiate: page loading speed is a network issue - unless you mean page rendering speed, which is more than likely a cpu issue; and the flash plugin is well known for wasting cpu |
| 04:46.00 | JunK-Y | someone can told how how to solve that issue? http://pastebin.com/347407 ? i see a pi, instead of ii in my dpkg --list |
| 04:46.04 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: so that dd command I did, would have also copied across all the boot sectors needed etc? |
| 04:46.04 | dondelelcaro | initiate: assuming that's the problem, yes. However, it's possible that your nameserver is slow, or your network sucks. |
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| 04:46.09 | Guerin | nvidia make raid controllers? Say it ain't so! |
| 04:46.09 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: yes. |
| 04:46.19 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: ok ty |
| 04:46.19 | Devrethman | yea... |
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| 04:46.23 | Devrethman | with teh nforce chipset |
| 04:46.26 | Guerin | oh |
| 04:46.27 | Devrethman | *the |
| 04:46.30 | Guerin | fake raid then |
| 04:46.32 | initiate | well i have 120 ms ping to the website |
| 04:46.39 | Devrethman | nforce 3 ultra to be exact |
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| 04:46.41 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: that just means that you requested the package be purged, and it's still installed. |
| 04:46.42 | Dewi | openGL things seem awfully slow on my system - is there somewhere I can check if it's picking up my hardware accelerator? |
| 04:46.43 | Guerin | initiate: what's your cpu doing? |
| 04:46.45 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: last question! I downloaded some ISO files, but k3b says they are all invalid when I try to open and burn them! Any ideas? |
| 04:46.54 | initiate | nothing much Guerin |
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| 04:47.01 | initiate | it's like 4% busy atm |
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| 04:47.06 | Guerin | initiate: dry nuking the flash plugin |
| 04:47.16 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: try to mount them using the loopback; mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt/tmp; if you can mount them, it's fine. If not, they're not really isos. |
| 04:47.26 | Guerin | initiate: really; java and flash plugins onn linux are a superb way to ruin your browsing day |
| 04:47.37 | Devrethman | yea, it's software raid, but it's still better than no raid, so is there a way to make it work? |
| 04:47.41 | initiate | i do have java too |
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| 04:47.45 | JunK-Y | dondelelcaro: no i wanna install it. |
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| 04:47.48 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: ok ill try that, brb |
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| 04:47.55 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: so install it. |
| 04:47.58 | Devrethman | i'm a total debian n00b, so i'm prolly missing something really obvious |
| 04:47.59 | morbius` | Xorg is available under testing or stable (or both) ? |
| 04:48.10 | initiate | :/ |
| 04:48.18 | dondelelcaro | morbius`: there are backports for stable, but it's only in testing and unstable. |
| 04:48.21 | JunK-Y | linux-kernel-headers is already the newest version. |
| 04:48.21 | JunK-Y | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded. |
| 04:48.35 | poncho | Bye. |
| 04:48.35 | JunK-Y | and its still pi instead of ii |
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| 04:48.58 | Devrethman | busy channel... |
| 04:49.05 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: use the --reinstall option to apt-get. |
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| 04:49.23 | morbius` | dondelelcaro, thanks |
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| 04:49.35 | dondelelcaro | !+info xserver-xorg testing |
| 04:49.37 | dpkg | Package 'xserver-xorg' does not exist. |
| 04:49.42 | Devrethman | so does anyone have any idea how to get my raid working?? |
| 04:49.45 | Guerin | Devrethman: i can't help you with that, sorry |
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| 04:49.50 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: i did that command you gave me and it says: ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy |
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| 04:49.50 | eutopia | mount: mount point /mnt/tmp does not exist |
| 04:49.50 | dondelelcaro | ah, actually it looks like it hasn't made the transition to testing yet |
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| 04:50.09 | Devrethman | blast... looks like i'll have to do reserach the traditional way |
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| 04:50.17 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: yeah, so mkdir /mnt/tmp; or mount it on some existing directory |
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| 04:50.28 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: ah of course :P sorry, brb |
| 04:50.40 | morbius` | also, anybody know how to stop all these empty querires i am recieving (other than ignoring _everybody) using X-Chat |
| 04:50.53 | dondelelcaro | morbius`: /mode morbius` +E |
| 04:50.58 | dondelelcaro | morbius`: see /topic |
| 04:51.02 | JunK-Y | # apt-get --reinstall linux-kernel-headers |
| 04:51.02 | JunK-Y | E: Invalid operation linux-kernel-headers |
| 04:51.17 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: it now says: mount: you must specify the filesystem type! |
| 04:51.18 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: apt-get --reinstall install linux-kernel-headers; man apt-get; and read. |
| 04:51.27 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: how would I know the ISO filesystem type? |
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| 04:51.39 | morbius` | oh sweet, thanks |
| 04:51.46 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: well, mount -o loop -t iso9660 foo.iso /mnt/tmp; but if that's the message you're getting, I'd bet that it isn't really an ISO image |
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| 04:51.52 | JunK-Y | dondelelcaro: i did a man apt-get there nothing about reinstall in there. |
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| 04:52.11 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: "--reinstall Re-Install packages that are already installed and at the newest version. Configuration Item: APT::Get::ReInstall." |
| 04:52.12 | initiate | how can i remove the flash plugin |
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| 04:52.38 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: it now says: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2 |
| 04:52.41 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: you do realize that you can search using your PAGER, right? man less; if you've not figured that out yet. |
| 04:52.45 | dondelelcaro | (or type ?) |
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| 04:52.54 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: right, it's not a real live iso then. |
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| 04:53.10 | JunK-Y | just odd: /reinstall |
| 04:53.10 | JunK-Y | Pattern not found |
| 04:53.19 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: its supposed to be an ISO to burn unto a CD a bootable CD |
| 04:53.20 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: run file foo.iso; or try using less on it. |
| 04:53.37 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: I type "file foo.iso" ? |
| 04:53.41 | JunK-Y | dondelelcaro: but thx for suggestion and helping, i appreciate it. |
| 04:53.44 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: yes. |
| 04:53.51 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: uh... are you actually using Debian? what version of apt do you have installed? |
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| 04:54.55 | JunK-Y | apt 0.5.28.6 |
| 04:54.58 | apt | 0.5 |
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| 04:54.58 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: it said: voyage.iso: data |
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| 04:55.45 | nvz | apt: stfu |
| 04:55.47 | apt | hmm... stfu is Shut the F*** Up!, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg |
| 04:55.51 | ofer0 | Guerin, it didnt work =\ |
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| 04:56.11 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: so whats that mean? |
| 04:56.25 | ofer0 | i tried to do it manually and i think i know where is the problem. |
| 04:56.37 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: what program do you use to burn ISO files? |
| 04:56.38 | dondelelcaro | JunK-Y: well, that version definetly documents it in the man 8 apt-get; manpage. |
| 04:56.39 | Daffy-PKF | can someone help please? http://rafb.net/paste/results/sztfXE78.html |
| 04:56.42 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: cdrecord |
| 04:56.42 | ofer0 | grub> setup (hd0)............Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no.........Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no |
| 04:56.52 | dondelelcaro | eutopia: but if you can't mount it using the loopback, it's most definetly not an ISO image. |
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| 04:57.25 | majnoon | all these &%&^$%&^$& blank messages :( |
| 04:57.33 | dondelelcaro | majnoon: /topic |
| 04:57.36 | nvz | I'll be damned if these two (supposedly) different girls arent the same person |
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| 04:58.03 | majnoon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:58.22 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: ok |
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| 04:58.38 | eutopia | does anyone else keep getting messages from helin^ and some others?? |
| 04:58.42 | majnoon | though not really spambots the messages were EMPTY |
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| 04:59.02 | Daffy-PKF | majnoon> same concept |
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| 04:59.30 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: so the command "mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/temp" will always tell me if its a proper ISO or not? |
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| 04:59.45 | eutopia | i keep getting multiple messagaes from people! Anyone else? |
| 04:59.56 | majnoon | do /topic |
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| 05:00.44 | JunK-Y | dondelelcaro: its now reinstalled correctly, but it doesnt solve my original issue, which was to solve that problem: http://pastebin.com/347414 , any idea ? |
| 05:00.44 | eutopia | whats /umode +E do exactly? |
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| 05:01.08 | nvz | eutopia: supposed to set a user mode that prevents external messages from unidentified users |
| 05:01.12 | ofer0 | grub> setup (hd0)..........Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no.........Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no |
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| 05:01.16 | eutopia | nvz: great command :) |
| 05:01.19 | Daffy-PKF | eutopia> it avoid private messages from people who's nick is not registered |
| 05:01.20 | ofer0 | and it exists! what to do? =\ |
| 05:01.21 | JunK-Y | its like my kernel libs are screwed. |
| 05:01.27 | eutopia | Daffy-PKF: great |
| 05:01.27 | nvz | eutopia: but not with the leading space like this idiot keeps typing |
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| 05:01.41 | SHS` | is umode client specific? :\ |
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| 05:02.00 | nvz | SHS`: yes some clients use /set, some use just /mode |
| 05:02.00 | majnoon | it NOT working here |
| 05:02.13 | SHS` | nvz: ta muchly :) |
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| 05:02.22 | majnoon | using xchat here |
| 05:02.31 | nvz | you cannot type spaces before commands |
| 05:02.44 | majnoon | /umode +E |
| 05:02.50 | eutopia | hmm works great! I like this mode +E ;) |
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| 05:03.08 | nvz | majnoon: try /mode majnoon +E |
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| 05:03.54 | majnoon | got majnoon sets mode +E majnoon is the right outtput ?? |
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| 05:04.22 | dondelelcaro | majnoon: yes. |
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| 05:04.38 | nvz | bah for some reason this dir I wanted to view doesnt show up in ytree |
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| 05:04.40 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> SPAMBOTS GOT YOU DOWN? /mode <yournick> +E | GETTING DEBIAN? /msg dpkg install debian | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | BTS: /msg dpkg bts | gcc/g++ 4.0 w/ new ABI in sid; beware breakage! | X.org is in sid | sid's libssl0.9.7 broken: /msg dpkg broken ssl | USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster, NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Java -> /msg dpkg java | kde 3.4 -> /msg dpkg kde3.4 | NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 05:04.47 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
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| 05:05.04 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I dont think /mode works in that way on irssi. you have to use /umode |
| 05:05.09 | nvz | ah |
| 05:05.11 | nvz | I see |
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| 05:05.22 | majnoon | <<xchat here |
| 05:05.23 | nylo | looking for a good console mail program ... should I use mutt or pine? |
| 05:05.30 | Guerin | bah, why can't rsync create files or dirs (permission denied) when the dir is 777 and the same user can create them just fine? |
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| 05:05.39 | TwistedEmotions | Wtf people keep fucking messaging me with nothing in the message wtf is going on? |
| 05:05.39 | nvz | you were giving me credit for already knowing it :P |
| 05:05.47 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: read /topic already |
| 05:05.50 | nylo | one with spell check if possible |
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| 05:05.59 | Guerin | nylo: mutt |
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| 05:06.05 | nvz | what I dont know is why this one hidden (starts with .) dir doesnt show up in ytree when all others do |
| 05:06.13 | nylo | Guerin: thanks |
| 05:06.16 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: are those spam bots? |
| 05:06.17 | Guerin | nylo: Pine Isn't Not Evil |
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| 05:06.33 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: yes. Those would be spambots, which is why you got stuck in #debian-overflow originally too. |
| 05:06.39 | initiate | tweekken, ./umode +e |
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| 05:06.49 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: Ill killem all ;P BASTERDS |
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| 05:07.03 | initiate | err |
| 05:07.07 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; it's only been going on for hours now |
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| 05:07.39 | ksmurf | I'm loseing my system as I speak,,,,Crap. |
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| 05:09.39 | nvz | ffs only reason i installed ytree is because my friend liked xtree gold so much and raved about it all the time.. but this program sucks |
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| 05:09.57 | nvz | if it worked like xtree it would be different.. but this thing barely works |
| 05:10.03 | majnoon | tried doing base-config new on chroot install and all i get is "Terminated" :( |
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| 05:11.09 | MaxPower | xtree rocked |
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| 05:11.29 | MaxPower | but there was a reason why it died out |
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| 05:12.50 | Daffy-PKF | can someone access here? http://vue.dnsalias.net |
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| 05:13.29 | MaxPower | im tryin |
| 05:13.32 | MaxPower | but didnt work |
| 05:13.35 | matlads | MSG dpkg kde3.4 |
| 05:13.36 | Guerin | same |
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| 05:13.50 | Daffy-PKF | erf |
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| 05:14.21 | nvz | hmm well I got the damn thing to show hex of the files I wanted and these photos were difinatly taken by different cameras and imported using different software but I still am not ruling out they are of the same fucking person |
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| 05:14.38 | MaxPower | hey what would be the best ftp server to have for people to update/access their websites etc..? |
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| 05:14.51 | Guerin | MaxPower: vsftpd |
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| 05:15.11 | MaxPower | is it of the easy variety? |
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| 05:15.56 | bucky | Daffy-PKF, Vous voyez cette page au lieu du site attendu ? |
| 05:16.07 | bucky | i see it |
| 05:16.11 | Daffy-PKF | bucky> great |
| 05:16.20 | Guerin | MaxPower: if you consider a config file which is key=value easy, then yes |
| 05:16.46 | Daffy-PKF | no it is accessible from internet, need to find how to make it accessible from lan... |
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| 05:17.29 | nvz | hmm imagine that.. this girl is calling herself sara too, except I already have a girl looks just like her on file under a different name |
| 05:17.53 | Guerin | nvz: we don't care about the peculiarities of your porn stash |
| 05:18.04 | majnoon | how many of the cd's needed to install debian ?? |
| 05:18.04 | nvz | its not porn actually.. heh |
| 05:18.07 | Guerin | oh, i know: it's not porn |
| 05:18.09 | Guerin | really |
| 05:18.13 | bucky | sara is a bot |
| 05:18.17 | nvz | if the girl was naked it would be easier to tell |
| 05:18.23 | MaxPower | Guerin: thanks |
| 05:18.30 | Guerin | MaxPower: 1 |
| 05:18.31 | Guerin | bah |
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| 05:18.34 | Guerin | majnoon: 1 |
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| 05:18.47 | majnoon | ttheree likee 15 cd's |
| 05:18.54 | Guerin | !d-i majnoon |
| 05:18.55 | dpkg | majnoon, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 05:18.57 | MaxPower | majnoon, get the net install |
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| 05:19.18 | majnoon | been TRYING no l.uck |
| 05:19.24 | MaxPower | majnoon: u will love the ease up the set up |
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| 05:19.48 | Matt|CS| | Anyone know why an error would come up, ERROR is "unknown variable 'old_password=1'" on trying to start up mysqld? |
| 05:19.51 | majnoon | been TRYING netinsst no l.uck |
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| 05:20.15 | MaxPower | what u mean no luck? |
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| 05:20.30 | MaxPower | in getting it or in installing it? |
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| 05:20.41 | bucky | no luck == error code |
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| 05:21.15 | nvz | its just I got two different "people" claiming to be what I believe to be the same person. |
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| 05:21.26 | bucky | yay! the bots are leaving! klv5f1s6 _suvari- |
| 05:21.28 | bucky | haha |
| 05:21.38 | majnoon | tried download and burned and tried install and it <INSERT FAVORITE BAD WORDS HERE> will not install |
| 05:22.20 | Guerin | why not |
| 05:22.29 | nvz | man hex is a PIMA I cant tell if this 10D is part of a string or something else :P |
| 05:22.30 | MaxPower | majnoon: did u burn it to CD or mount the image? |
| 05:22.41 | Guerin | nvz: post pics on your site and have a vote |
| 05:22.44 | majnoon | burned cd |
| 05:22.48 | nvz | heh |
| 05:23.01 | MaxPower | and it wont boot up on the cd or comes up with an error? |
| 05:23.39 | majnoon | it boots and TRIES to install but it basically say bad cdrom |
| 05:23.54 | nvz | its the same fucking girl she's got these natural highlights that come every year from the sun and I've got enough pictures with dates embedded in them to see exactly how the color changes from month to month |
| 05:24.09 | MaxPower | majnoon: is it an older computer your trying to install it on? |
| 05:24.26 | Guerin | majnoon: ever installed any other linux on this machine? |
| 05:24.41 | nvz | I;ve never seen anything like it except got two photos from the same month with the same characteristics |
| 05:24.42 | majnoon | atholon xp 2 ghzz |
| 05:24.43 | Guerin | majnoon: and are you sure the drive and medium are good? |
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| 05:24.45 | Matt|CS| | 050827 7:21:30 mysqld: unknown variable 'old_passwords=1' |
| 05:24.46 | majnoon | yup |
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| 05:24.55 | Guerin | Matt|CS|: ask #mysql |
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| 05:25.01 | nvz | different camera, different pc and different name |
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| 05:25.15 | MaxPower | yeah cos I was tryin for ages but then found my 10 year old CD rom drive was forked |
| 05:25.16 | Guerin | nvz: twins |
| 05:25.16 | majnoon | Linux box 2.4.26 #1 SMP Sa Apr 17 19:33:42 CEST 2004 i686 unknown |
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| 05:25.26 | nvz | possibly |
| 05:25.28 | bucky | nvz, maybe she's a schizophrenic |
| 05:25.35 | nvz | thats possible too |
| 05:25.44 | majnoon | using damnsmall linux now |
| 05:26.03 | nvz | though I would have picked up on that easier than this |
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| 05:26.11 | Guerin | majnoon: use debootstrap, then |
| 05:26.12 | majnoon | trying to install to different hd in same puter |
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| 05:26.50 | majnoon | trying that too but when do base-config new it says "terminated" and quits |
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| 05:28.15 | majnoon | this is what i get |
| 05:28.19 | majnoon | box:/# base-config new |
| 05:28.19 | majnoon | Terminated |
| 05:29.14 | nvz | its also remotely possible she changed her name in the past year though I am not believing it |
| 05:29.46 | dondelelcaro | nvz: are you stalking this person or something? |
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| 05:30.59 | nvz | dondelelcaro: nope but someone is stealing their id apperently |
| 05:31.07 | majnoon | going to TRY the business card thingy |
| 05:31.09 | SplasPood | Can anyone tell me if it's possible to install both postfix and exim at the same time, and if so.. how? :) |
| 05:31.10 | nvz | I just accidentally stumbled on it |
| 05:31.33 | nvz | because I am both nosey and observant |
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| 05:32.12 | Dewi | nvz: so is this two people with one identity? |
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| 05:32.28 | Dewi | nvz: or one person with two identities? |
| 05:32.45 | nvz | heh dont confuse me |
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| 05:33.02 | Dewi | nvz: you started it |
| 05:33.11 | nvz | ;) |
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| 05:33.41 | Dewi | could anybody recommend a media player which will allow me to override audio sync; specify an offset? something with powerful options like that (in windows I like mplayerc) |
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| 05:33.47 | majnoon | burning bussineess card version now |
| 05:33.51 | nvz | I just have a natural ability to spot inconsistancies |
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| 05:34.33 | nvz | kind of like my natural ability to spell and talk so poorly |
| 05:34.50 | majnoon | ok going to TRY now |
| 05:35.14 | dondelelcaro | Dewi: mplayer or xine can do that too |
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| 05:36.08 | Dewi | dondelelcaro: which of those do you prefer (xine looks pretty good mainly because it has a package and I'm a newb) |
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| 05:36.39 | beowu1f | part |
| 05:36.39 | dondelelcaro | Dewi: whichever can play the file that you're looking at. Xine is usually pretty decent. |
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| 05:41.21 | Daffy-PKF | does it still work? http://vue.dnsalias.net |
| 05:42.06 | nvz | I've been 'investigating' a strange trend on the web for nearly 10 years now. trying to assess both the nature and the sevarity of the effects it causes on society. I am only doing it for personal knowlage. Though watching real investigators follow in my footsteps just makes me all the more curious. this is the first time I've deemed something legit and came across information that made me cross-examine |
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| 05:42.14 | nvz | just means people are getting smarted |
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| 05:42.18 | nvz | smarter even |
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| 05:42.57 | bucky | Daffy-PKF, we've got to stop meeting like this |
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| 05:43.36 | Daffy-PKF | bucky> ?? |
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| 05:43.52 | bucky | Daffy-PKF, yes it still works |
| 05:44.04 | Daffy-PKF | bucky> thanks |
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| 05:44.14 | lvdsn | I need to open another X in my gnome, how can I do that ? |
| 05:44.27 | Guerin | lvdsn: startx :1 |
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| 05:45.05 | lvdsn | Guerin, yes I know that but |
| 05:45.11 | quitte_ | warty had something that was a xserver in a window. it was nice. id like to know what it was. |
| 05:45.26 | lvdsn | Guerin, I use a key combination a nd the new X appear |
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| 05:46.31 | lvdsn | Guerin, it could be startx -- :1 ? I think so |
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| 05:46.46 | _ray | how do i get my monitor to auto shut off? |
| 05:46.54 | _ray | the kde app dont work? |
| 05:47.05 | lvdsn | Another hel? abou my question ? |
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| 05:48.17 | itsjstskl | Hey, I just moved to debian from freebsd was wondering if anyone could help me setup the sound card or point me in the right direction? |
| 05:48.31 | vortek_ | would any one know how to turn off acpi in grub man grub has no info on it |
| 05:48.52 | quitte_ | itsjstskl: /msg dpkg sound |
| 05:48.52 | jetscreamer | !alsa-bork |
| 05:48.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alsa-bork is modprobe snd-<soundcard-module> ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss, and maybe apt-get install gnome-alsamixer or alsamixergui, or apt-get install alsa-base |
| 05:48.55 | jetscreamer | for 2.6 |
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| 05:49.28 | itsjstskl | Thanks quitte_ |
| 05:49.32 | blahdebla1 | vortek_: You need to put it on the kernel line with root= and the like. |
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| 05:50.18 | blahdebla1 | Can anyone recommend an audio recording package? I've got audacity - is that usable as a mult-track recorder? |
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| 05:50.29 | blahdebla1 | s/mult/multi/ |
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| 05:50.34 | _ray | how do i get my monitor to auto shut off? |
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| 05:50.36 | _ray | the kde app dont work? |
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| 05:50.52 | vortek_ | acpi=off ? |
| 05:51.04 | akhayyat | did any body succeed in using the new ipw2200 version 1.0.6? |
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| 05:51.29 | vortek_ | any one have aclue as to why the latest kernel sources want devfs even if you dont compile it in ? |
| 05:51.32 | blahdebla1 | _ray: Don't know about KDE, but on GNOME, the default sarge configuration "just works" on my mon/vid setup. |
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| 05:51.40 | blahdebla1 | vortek_: Yep |
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| 05:51.49 | akhayyat | ipw2200 1.0.4 is running allright, 1.0.6 does not |
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| 05:51.58 | vortek_ | thanxs |
| 05:52.04 | _ray | blahdebla1: dont work in kde or gnome : ( |
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| 05:52.22 | vortek_ | welp brb |
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| 05:53.29 | lvdsn | Guerin, it could be startx -- :1 ? I think so |
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| 05:55.04 | lvdsn | startx -- :1 starts a new X , but don't appears the login screen |
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| 05:55.15 | lvdsn | How can I get it ? |
| 05:55.32 | akhayyat | the ipw2200 1.0.6 loads fine but ping fails! |
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| 05:55.47 | akhayyat | anybody using ipw2200 1.0.6 |
| 05:55.48 | akhayyat | ? |
| 05:55.52 | lvdsn | akhayyat, In what sth you have ? |
| 05:55.58 | lvdsn | akhayyat, In what eth you have ? |
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| 05:56.01 | nvz | I need to get a shower, I have more unique smells than baskin robins has flavors |
| 05:56.02 | Daffy-PKF | can someone help please? http://rafb.net/paste/results/xtRXlw80.html |
| 05:56.22 | akhayyat | i'm using ifrename, so it is wlan0 instead of eth2 i guess |
| 05:56.31 | akhayyat | lvdsn, i'm using ifrename, so it is wlan0 instead of eth2 i guess |
| 05:56.51 | lvdsn | akhayyat, you have another network carda ? |
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| 05:57.22 | akhayyat | lvdsn, ethernet but down - not configured |
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| 05:57.44 | lvdsn | akhayyat, please use iwconfig |
| 05:58.14 | lvdsn | akhayyat, that give you some ? |
| 05:58.15 | akhayyat | lvdsn, i use iwconfig.. i associate to the network successfully, but ping fails |
| 05:58.59 | akhayyat | lvdsn, actually i even use wpasupplicant.. the same exact setup works for ver. 1.0.4 |
| 05:59.10 | akhayyat | lvdsn, which i'm using right now |
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| 06:03.17 | vortek | Does any one have an idea as to why when I use make-kpkg to make a kernel it always wants devfs ? |
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| 06:03.31 | vortek | It always panics saying unable to mount and something bout sync'n |
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| 06:03.39 | vortek | i tried with and with out devfs compiled in |
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| 06:03.48 | vortek | its realy getting on my nervs and im stumped |
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| 06:03.57 | vortek | and google.com realy does not have awnsers |
| 06:04.00 | vortek | er awnser |
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| 06:05.37 | vortek | . |
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| 06:05.56 | quitte_ | vortek: did you install with debootstrap or any other unusual way? |
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| 06:06.06 | dondelelcaro | vortek: that's because you're using either the devfs or the udev root instead of /dev/hda1; or you don't have a /dev filesystem on your root device. |
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| 06:07.08 | Daffy-PKF | does it still work? http://vue.dnsalias.net |
| 06:07.11 | vortek | nope to quitte_ |
| 06:07.20 | quitte_ | nad he cant install latest udev easily now |
| 06:07.20 | vortek | dondelelcaro : I told the kernel not to compile devfs though |
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| 06:07.57 | dondelelcaro | vortek: that's fine; in that case you'll need to make sure that a node for the root device exists on the root device, and that you've set root= appropriately to mount it |
| 06:08.00 | ray_ | does anybody here use ati graphics card? |
| 06:08.05 | itsjstskl | Yes |
| 06:08.15 | vortek | dondelelcaro dondelelcaro : it looks just like the other grub entries |
| 06:08.19 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> yes |
| 06:08.22 | vortek | erps sorry bout the dual nick |
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| 06:08.32 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, did you use the drivers from the site? |
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| 06:08.44 | lvdsn | startx -- :1 starts a new X , but don't appears the login screen |
| 06:08.48 | vortek | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.53 | vortek | and moved it to /boot/ |
| 06:08.55 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> no, the ones xorg installs (radeon for me) |
| 06:08.56 | lvdsn | How can I get it ? |
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| 06:09.01 | itsjstskl | Ok, read the info on setting up the sound card and all but it said something about oss and that driver isn't loading at all |
| 06:09.04 | vortek | and added to the grub menu and ran update-grub |
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| 06:09.18 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, are you using sid? |
| 06:09.22 | vortek | dondelelcaro : whats this udev option called in the .config ill search for it |
| 06:09.26 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> yes |
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| 06:09.34 | ray_ | itsjstskl, did you use the ones from the site? |
| 06:09.36 | dondelelcaro | vortek: and what is the kernel line of your grub configuration? |
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| 06:09.44 | itsjstskl | use what from the site? |
| 06:09.51 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, is xorg default in sid? |
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| 06:10.04 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> i think so... but not sure |
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| 06:10.30 | brian__ | Ok, I need help....I have 2 networks cards in my computer, I have one card going to the outside world and The other card hooked into my switch for the home network. How do I make this computer be a router? |
| 06:10.40 | lvdsn | How can I get it ? |
| 06:10.50 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, so if i change my sources to . unstable and so an apt-get dist-upgrade i have sid? |
| 06:10.57 | vortek | dondelelcaro : one sec |
| 06:11.05 | dondelelcaro | times up |
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| 06:11.25 | SerajewelKS | sarge->sid |
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| 06:11.28 | SerajewelKS | !sarge->sid |
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| 06:11.42 | dondelelcaro | brian__: enable forwarding between the devices, and set up masquerading if necessary |
| 06:11.45 | ray_ | !sid |
| 06:11.45 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 06:11.54 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> yes but since you're using xfree86, it won't install xorg automatically, you'll have to 'apt-get install xserver-xorg' |
| 06:11.55 | vortek | dondelelcaro : kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12.5 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash |
| 06:11.58 | dondelelcaro | brian__: the ipmasq package does this for you |
| 06:12.02 | vortek | ofcourse thats all on one line |
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| 06:12.15 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, will it then boot to xorg? |
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| 06:12.52 | dondelelcaro | vortek: is there an entry in mount; for /dev ? |
| 06:12.54 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> when xserver-xorg installs, i thing it asks you wich one you want by default (cfree86 or xorg) |
| 06:13.00 | ray_ | cool |
| 06:13.00 | vortek | no |
| 06:13.03 | Daffy-PKF | s/cfree86/xfree86 |
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| 06:13.10 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, do you have 3d accell? |
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| 06:13.22 | vortek | dondelelcaro : wait were is mount ? |
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| 06:13.52 | dondelelcaro | vortek: please answer my questions correctly or ask questions when they're unclear... don't guess. |
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| 06:13.55 | brian__ | how do I enable forwarding? |
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| 06:14.02 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> yes, i just have troubles with some kind of compressed textures (don't remember the name somethink like s3tc...) |
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| 06:14.07 | vortek | dondelelcaro : ok were is mount |
| 06:14.07 | dondelelcaro | vortek: run: mount |grep 'on /dev ' |
| 06:14.11 | vortek | k |
| 06:14.36 | vortek | root@Guadain:/usr/src # mount |grep 'on /dev ' |
| 06:14.36 | vortek | root@Guadain:/usr/src # |
| 06:14.43 | Daffy-PKF | can someone just tell me if he can see a webpage here please? http://vue.dnsalias.net |
| 06:15.06 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, do you play games like ET and AA |
| 06:15.10 | vortek | dondelelcaro : no output |
| 06:15.11 | dondelelcaro | vortek: ok, then you don't have anything mounted on /dev; /dev/hda1 exists, right? what is /dev/hda1? |
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| 06:15.18 | vortek | thats wintendo |
| 06:15.27 | Daffy-PKF | ray_> ET? AA? i just play neverwinter nights actually... |
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| 06:15.32 | vortek | dondelelcaro : thts xp /dev/hda2 is linux |
| 06:15.33 | dondelelcaro | s/1/2/ |
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| 06:15.38 | brian__ | How do I enable forwarding between my two network cards? Im new to linux. Can somebody please help me? |
| 06:15.52 | dondelelcaro | vortek: yes; is it a SATA device? or is it a PATA drive? |
| 06:15.52 | ray_ | Daffy-PKF, ok well thank you im gonna try some stuff |
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| 06:16.09 | Daffy-PKF | brian__> #iptables |
| 06:16.09 | dondelelcaro | brian__: just install the ipmasq package, it does it all for you. |
| 06:16.11 | vortek | dondelelcaro : IDE |
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| 06:16.26 | quitte_ | brian__: echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 06:16.33 | dondelelcaro | vortek: ok, then assuming you've built in everything into your configuration, it should mount no problem. |
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| 06:16.59 | vortek | do I need devfs or initrd ? |
| 06:17.05 | dondelelcaro | vortek: no. |
| 06:17.09 | vortek | You mean build EVERY THing in the kernel ? |
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| 06:17.13 | vortek | or just ide stuff ? |
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| 06:17.22 | dondelelcaro | vortek: everything you need to mount / needs to be built into the kernel. |
| 06:17.36 | dondelelcaro | (unless you're going to use an initrd, which is pointless when you're building your own kernel) |
| 06:17.44 | dondelelcaro | well, generally pointless |
| 06:17.45 | brian__ | Thanks guys! |
| 06:17.48 | vortek | dondelelcaro : yeah i agree thanxs bro |
| 06:17.59 | blahdebla1 | I've been playing with recording using audacity, and it has this small time delay while recording between when you play the sound and when you hear it. Can anyone recommend a way to reduce the latency from record to playback? |
| 06:18.14 | vortek | I'll rebuild and build in whats needed wich im assuming is usualy ide and ide chipsets |
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| 06:19.26 | vortek | and the fs stuff |
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| 06:20.03 | majnoon | no luck though got error number |
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| 06:20.08 | nvz | oh well when you see my network spamming in here let me know so I can start kicking asses and taking names.. I've just been informed I got possibly another infected windows box. after just dealing with two of them last month |
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| 06:20.25 | majnoon | said debootstrap error 139 |
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| 06:20.44 | hiii | offtopic |
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| 06:20.54 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: infected with what? |
| 06:20.58 | hiii | como se llama una actriz de las palmas que está buenÃsima? |
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| 06:21.02 | hiii | merda |
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| 06:21.16 | TwistedEmotions | !spanish |
| 06:21.17 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 06:21.28 | TwistedEmotions | !tell hiii about spanish |
| 06:21.36 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: I dunno. my little brother is like 12, I walked past his PC and it had a word processor opened with big letters said his pc was all fucked up and had like 30 viruses he couldnt remove |
| 06:21.37 | hiii | thanks |
| 06:21.49 | majnoon | can you give me the xchat equiv to block the spambots |
| 06:21.51 | TwistedEmotions | hiii: ;) |
| 06:21.51 | majnoon | ?? |
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| 06:22.04 | dondelelcaro | majnoon: the topic has it |
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| 06:22.04 | vortek | thanxs for the help :D maybe now iget kernel |
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| 06:22.23 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: I just laughed at him.. and he said "I bet if I had linux I wouldnt have this problem?" and I said yep. |
| 06:22.26 | majnoon | /mode majnoon +E |
| 06:22.41 | majnoon | /mode majnoon +E majnoon |
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| 06:23.17 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: ;P I do it work... I deal with windows and viruses all the time ;P Like 40 different computers... 60 different dumb employees using them |
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| 06:23.54 | TwistedEmotions | majnoon: /mode majnoon +E |
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| 06:24.12 | nvz | I've been online for probably like 11 years or so.. the past 4 or 5 using debian have been the happiest |
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| 06:24.42 | nvz | I remember vaguely what it was like being online for the first time.. there really wasnt much of what we know of the internet today. |
| 06:24.47 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: amen. |
| 06:25.16 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: hahaha telnet was l3333t |
| 06:25.38 | streuner | nvz: sounds like a fossil in prehistoric times... |
| 06:25.40 | hiii | GOYA TOLEDO |
| 06:25.42 | nvz | back then telnet was the shit, and there was no DNS you used the fuckin phone book |
| 06:26.11 | TwistedEmotions | hahaha true ;) |
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| 06:26.20 | nvz | didnt really have to pay anyone for internet, you just had to know who to call |
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| 06:26.31 | Roots | IRC question: how do I set "+E"? |
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| 06:26.41 | TwistedEmotions | Roots: /topic |
| 06:26.56 | Roots | ahhh, okay :) |
| 06:26.58 | Roots | haha thanks |
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| 06:27.10 | TwistedEmotions | Roots: /mode Roots +E |
| 06:27.30 | Roots | Why are there spam bots all of a sudden? |
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| 06:27.44 | TwistedEmotions | Roots: it's dondelelcaro's fault. |
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| 06:27.51 | nvz | Roots: who knows, kawfeh's cable got shut off maybe |
| 06:28.01 | bucky | someone is logged on with an infected windows box |
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| 06:28.12 | nvz | has nothing better to do now that he cant watch Jerry Springer and Fear Factor |
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| 06:28.20 | TwistedEmotions | bucky: bahh.. not one person is it? |
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| 06:28.36 | TwistedEmotions | bucky: then just ban the ip... problem solved |
| 06:28.40 | Roots | Psh, this network shouldn't allow Windows users on the first place :P |
| 06:29.04 | TwistedEmotions | hahah the people in #windows would be ticked |
| 06:29.24 | nvz | if someone k-lines [80-89].*.*.* and [200-299].*.*.* we should be alright :P |
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| 06:29.46 | d | how do you mount a cd threw the command line =/ |
| 06:29.53 | nvz | thats only about 60% of the ipv4 internet I guess |
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| 06:30.09 | itsjstskl | Hey |
| 06:30.26 | d | when i try to do mount /mnt/cdrom it says can't find |
| 06:30.29 | bucky | all the user@ that start with 'n=' are bots |
| 06:30.34 | quitte_ | nvz 299? |
| 06:30.35 | agentofbsd | mount -t iso9660 /path/ |
| 06:30.38 | TwistedEmotions | d: mount /cdrom |
| 06:30.39 | itsjstskl | How do I create devices? |
| 06:30.41 | nvz | quitte_: 255 :P |
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| 06:30.53 | nvz | quitte_: 254 whatever is valid |
| 06:30.54 | bucky | and i= |
| 06:31.07 | TwistedEmotions | d: if that doesnt work mount /dev/cdrom |
| 06:31.17 | sema4 | anyone here able to help me with postfix/sasl/tls ? |
| 06:31.20 | agentofbsd | mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /path/ |
| 06:31.24 | nerdy2 | bucky: including you? |
| 06:31.24 | quitte_ | nvz now we'Re down to no more than 50%. someone finally do it |
| 06:31.32 | d | TwistedEmotions, none of those work sir |
| 06:31.36 | TwistedEmotions | d: what he ^^^ said |
| 06:31.46 | TwistedEmotions | mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /path/ |
| 06:31.49 | sema4 | for some reason postfix is displaying all the auth methods when ti should only show login and plain |
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| 06:31.53 | leira | the scim-chinese package cannot work in sid, isn't it? |
| 06:31.53 | agentofbsd | try man maount |
| 06:31.54 | bucky | yup.. we're all bots |
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| 06:31.57 | TwistedEmotions | mine I just type mount /cdrom |
| 06:32.00 | TwistedEmotions | ;P |
| 06:32.02 | nvz | apt, person? |
| 06:32.03 | apt | somebody said person was like a bot, but squishier, or a meat popscicle |
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| 06:32.07 | agentofbsd | :) |
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| 06:32.18 | drew | how do I extract all files from a .zip folder? |
| 06:32.25 | nvz | I love that factoid :) |
| 06:32.31 | d | TwistedEmotions, any ideas |
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| 06:32.41 | Fleck | drew unzip file.zip |
| 06:32.42 | nvz | almost as much as |
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| 06:32.47 | nvz | !any ideas |
| 06:32.47 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of rutabagas, a little thermal paste, and 5 or 6 three-legged hamsters. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
| 06:32.48 | drew | ok |
| 06:32.57 | TwistedEmotions | d: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /path/ |
| 06:33.20 | TwistedEmotions | d: READ Above... someone else gave you answer earlier. |
| 06:33.21 | Roots | Hmm, if I left my /etc/apt/sources.list as "testing" through the sarge release, does that mean I'm running etch right now? |
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| 06:33.22 | agentofbsd | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.27 | drew | Fleck, it can't recognize the zip command |
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| 06:33.31 | drew | *unzip |
| 06:33.37 | agentofbsd | <TwistedEmotions> d: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /path/ |
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| 06:33.41 | Fleck | drew apt-get install unzip |
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| 06:33.56 | TwistedEmotions | agentofbsd: hitem with something heavy ;P |
| 06:33.59 | d | agentofbsd, that does not work |
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| 06:34.09 | nvz | damn I cant believe its going on 3am already |
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| 06:34.17 | TwistedEmotions | d: wtf is the error? |
| 06:34.18 | agentofbsd | d: really |
| 06:34.26 | brian__ | ok, I installed that ipmasq package and my other computers are getting ip addresses but thay cannot get on the internet |
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| 06:34.35 | nvz | I was B.S. with the neighbor earlier and lost track of time |
| 06:34.36 | agentofbsd | man mount maybe will work |
| 06:34.41 | Fleck | nvz it's 9:30 AM here :)) |
| 06:34.43 | itsjstskl | Ok, I need the driver sb.o to get sound to work, but its not in the sound driver directory |
| 06:35.10 | nvz | I think he's trying to make friends with me |
| 06:35.16 | TwistedEmotions | !tell d about not working |
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| 06:35.30 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: or lovers? |
| 06:35.31 | d | TwistedEmotions, mount: mount point /path/ does not exist |
| 06:35.41 | Fleck | ;)) |
| 06:35.44 | TwistedEmotions | idiot |
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| 06:35.48 | Fleck | hehe |
| 06:36.09 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: eww, maybe one of his daughters.. |
| 06:36.09 | TwistedEmotions | d: mkdir /path/ |
| 06:36.09 | nvz | or his wife |
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| 06:36.13 | d | TwistedEmotions, ok |
| 06:36.20 | TwistedEmotions | d: that means the place you are trying to mount it to doesnt have a folder... go make a folder there |
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| 06:36.30 | nvz | all the girls in this town are too young for me or heroin addicts anyhow |
| 06:36.32 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: or both? |
| 06:36.36 | agentofbsd | d: :P |
| 06:36.37 | nvz | yeah why not |
| 06:36.52 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: where do you live? |
| 06:36.58 | nvz | Leetsdale |
| 06:37.05 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: and what do you mean "Too young" like 5? |
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| 06:37.16 | itsjstskl | Could anyone please help me setup my soundcard? |
| 06:37.21 | nvz | no like the oldest hot girl I've seen lately I figure to be like 16 |
| 06:37.22 | sn00p | nvz: phillies |
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| 06:37.38 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: if grass on field... PLAYBALL. |
| 06:37.43 | nvz | heh |
| 06:37.43 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: just kidding.. |
| 06:37.49 | d | TwistedEmotions, it gave me a error but its to big to post ion here |
| 06:38.02 | TwistedEmotions | go directly to jail. do not collect 200. |
| 06:38.12 | sn00p | lol |
| 06:38.18 | sn00p | She wont be saying anything she wanted the cock |
| 06:38.18 | nvz | I seen some girls I knew from high school around but they are herion addicts |
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| 06:38.24 | TwistedEmotions | d: jump off a bridge.. |
| 06:38.25 | nvz | I am not looking for a junkie |
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| 06:38.30 | cahoot | itsjstskl: checked the wiki mentioned in /topic? |
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| 06:38.32 | TwistedEmotions | !tell d about paste |
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| 06:38.58 | TwistedEmotions | d: check your messages.. then paste or use #flood |
| 06:39.11 | itsjstskl | yes cahoot |
| 06:39.15 | sn00p | SO? I'm 25 and have the hots for a 17 year old |
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| 06:39.26 | d | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.26 | d | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.26 | d | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.26 | d | hdc: tray open |
| 06:39.27 | d | end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 64 |
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| 06:39.30 | TwistedEmotions | sn00p: jail |
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| 06:39.36 | TwistedEmotions | idiot |
| 06:39.47 | itsjstskl | tried to load the driver via modconf but it's not there |
| 06:39.47 | TwistedEmotions | not you sn00p .. |
| 06:39.49 | sn00p | heh |
| 06:39.54 | itsjstskl | and i have no clue how to get it there :( |
| 06:39.56 | Guerin | bah |
| 06:40.00 | TwistedEmotions | I told d not to paste... then he pastes :P |
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| 06:40.21 | Guerin | if we could not turn this into #omg-teen-chix0rz |
| 06:40.23 | leira | my firefox cannot startup, and nothing warning output. when i killed it, there is a gconfd-2 still running.. |
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| 06:40.30 | Guerin | you sad, miserable bunch of wankers |
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| 06:40.38 | nvz | yeah well I have an image I am required to uphold. my father is into politics as well as I and he wants to be a political consultant one day.. negitive publicity doesnt do any of us any good much less the legal issues |
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| 06:40.54 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: hahaha your lack of a sense of humor is halarious |
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| 06:41.10 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: i don't lack a sense of humour |
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| 06:41.28 | TwistedEmotions | See what I mean... hahahahaha |
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| 06:41.55 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: kidding ;) I lub you. |
| 06:42.04 | nvz | I cant even go to concerts or hand out with some of my friends sometimes, cause they are too irresponsible to understand and respect my situation so I have to stay away from them sometimes just to avoid complications |
| 06:42.18 | nvz | s/hand/hang/ |
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| 06:42.46 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: hahah I know what you mean... all my friends are drunken jackasses as well ;) |
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| 06:43.08 | cahoot | TwistedEmotions: but with a sense of humor? |
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| 06:43.35 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: yeah well its fine for my younger friends to get drunk and beat each other up and spend the night in the drunk tank and get underage drinking fines by them selves.. but when I am there and of age.. its not ok |
| 06:43.59 | Guerin | nvz: i don't believe a day goes by in #debian when you don't whine about your irresponsible younger friends |
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| 06:44.10 | nvz | heh |
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| 06:44.22 | nvz | I have friends older than me who are irresponsible too you know |
| 06:44.47 | nvz | and my friend across the street jsut spent the night in the jail two nights ago. |
| 06:44.49 | mfrisch | nvz are you the congressman? |
| 06:44.51 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: tell Guerin all about those ;) |
| 06:44.58 | nvz | mfrisch: no |
| 06:45.23 | nvz | he's like 19, walked into the hotel with a beer and punched some guy that worked there. |
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| 06:45.31 | FreeLoad | water seeks it's own level |
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| 06:45.35 | morbius | how do I respecify my keyboard in X? |
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| 06:45.43 | Guerin | that's not irresponsible; that's just being a fuckwit |
| 06:45.43 | itsjstskl | Ok |
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| 06:45.51 | nvz | he'll be in the paper.. I won't cause I knew to stay home |
| 06:45.51 | mfrisch | nvz where do you live so I don't go there |
| 06:45.51 | itsjstskl | so I need to rebuild the kernel with the drivers i need? |
| 06:45.54 | TwistedEmotions | Who the hell does root-tail think he is to crash on me ;P For 30 minutes been wondering why no hits on my website |
| 06:46.27 | timo- | i can't get mythtv working, i only get mysql errors lite this http://pastebin.com/347478 |
| 06:46.34 | timo- | and i don't know anything about mysql |
| 06:46.35 | Guerin | timo-: #mysql |
| 06:47.00 | TwistedEmotions | timo: Im sorry... you installed that crap huh? |
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| 06:47.10 | TwistedEmotions | timo-: good luck |
| 06:47.18 | timo- | ? |
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| 06:47.41 | cahoot | timo: you could check if mysql is running at all |
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| 06:47.51 | TwistedEmotions | timo-: couldnt get it to work ;P... caused errors all around my system too as far as privilaged :P |
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| 06:48.07 | mfrisch | timo read the docs in /usr/share/doc/mythtv you need to create the main db |
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| 06:48.23 | nvz | mfrisch: don't worry this 1.2sq mile town isnt even on your travel map |
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| 06:48.39 | Guerin | mfrisch: that's not the error |
| 06:48.48 | Guerin | mfrisch: he can't even CONNECT to the database server |
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| 06:49.18 | TwistedEmotions | AHA! Good news... I'm moving to new apartments and they got fiber optic lines! Weee ;) |
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| 06:49.28 | tarzeau | Ungy: what msg? |
| 06:49.31 | Roots | Die please |
| 06:49.51 | mfrisch | Guerin I can't get mysql to install in testing...he got farer than me. Did he grant access to the db |
| 06:50.02 | brian__ | how do I compile and install a program? |
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| 06:50.25 | tarzeau | brian__: ./configure && make && make install |
| 06:50.31 | tarzeau | brian__: but generally read INSTALL |
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| 06:50.33 | streuner | brian__: what distro do you use? |
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| 06:51.32 | streuner | It can't be debian, because in debian are many packages available |
| 06:51.40 | Guerin | mfrisch: irrelevant ... he CANNOT CONNECT TO THE MYSQLD |
| 06:51.42 | leira | my firefox cannot startup, and nothing warning output. when i killed it, there is a gconfd-2 still running.. have anyone met the problem? |
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| 06:52.03 | Guerin | mfrisch: if you can't even get mysql installed, I suggest you refrain from giving advice about it |
| 06:52.26 | wobbler | damn at the spammers tonight its like one every 15 seconds |
| 06:52.43 | midg3t | topic |
| 06:52.58 | sn00p | read the toic |
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| 06:53.03 | sn00p | topic |
| 06:53.18 | Roots | I don't understand why all the spam I've been getting has been nothing but blank messages |
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| 06:53.22 | sn00p | more spam more spam!!! |
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| 06:53.28 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: /mode nvz +E |
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| 06:53.36 | Roots | You figured if they were going to spam, they might send at least a link or something so I can BUY CHEAP V1AGRA!!!11 |
| 06:53.47 | wobbler | i didi fixed mine but ive never seen it this bad |
| 06:53.51 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: I've been mode +E probably longer than you've been here :P |
| 06:53.53 | TwistedEmotions | Roots: that's what I was thinking... |
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| 06:54.01 | dingo | Roots: for free p0rn and stuff heeeh |
| 06:54.10 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: ;( Just kidding... |
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| 06:54.22 | Roots | Yeah. Man if I was getting pr0n links from these spammers then I wouldn't be complaining, shit |
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| 06:54.33 | sn00p | lol |
| 06:54.48 | nvz | and I didnt need dondelelcaro to tell me to do it either |
| 06:54.49 | WALoeIII | what is the name of the program to add/remove startup scripts from the rc |
| 06:54.52 | TwistedEmotions | I dont even know what E is... much less all that. |
| 06:54.54 | WALoeIII | updaterc.d or something along those lines |
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| 06:55.04 | dingo | any clue guys what these ppl are upto |
| 06:55.08 | dingo | i mean motive |
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| 06:55.28 | Roots | world domination? |
| 06:55.51 | SerajewelKS | is there a command to see how much real RAM and swap (separately) that a program is (or all programs are) using? |
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| 06:55.53 | dingo | and all in the world only #debian seems to be crawling with them |
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| 06:56.26 | pureone | serajewlks free or ps aux |
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| 06:56.37 | DutchFish | can i safely allow 1 host in host.allow and deny all others in host.deny for MySQL? Or should i go by netfilter rools? |
| 06:56.51 | SerajewelKS | pureone, neither of those do what i want |
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| 06:57.01 | WALoeIII | figured it out, its update-rc.d |
| 06:57.10 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: +CEei means I am blocking CTCP (Client To Client Protocol), External messages from unidentified users, I am identified, and invisible (hidden from global who/whois by normal users and hides which channels I am on) |
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| 06:57.24 | groulder | hi, how do you reconfigure package? i thought it was dpkg ==reconfigure |
| 06:57.24 | timo- | i now re-installed mythtv and mysql and got the following error http://pastebin.com/347485 |
| 06:57.36 | groulder | woops dpkg --reconfigure i meant. |
| 06:57.39 | SerajewelKS | groulder, dpkh-reconfigure |
| 06:57.43 | SerajewelKS | dpkg* |
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| 06:57.47 | groulder | ahh right |
| 06:57.49 | groulder | ta. |
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| 06:58.19 | pureone | serjewlks not sure of anythign else |
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| 06:58.36 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: that's pimp.. How do I become invisible? I want to go to be able to murder idiots without any eye witnesses. |
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| 06:59.19 | dingo | SerajewelKS: what about top? |
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| 06:59.27 | Gabriele | login don't ask me the password and I enter directly, how can I do ??? |
| 06:59.30 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: heh, I am automatically set +ei when I join the +e I know is because I have a configuration to send my password when I join, but the +i I am not sure if its my client or freenode that does that |
| 06:59.37 | itsjstskl | I'm trying to rebuild a new kernel when i do make menuconfig it says i need Ncurses installed, which I have. |
| 06:59.39 | SerajewelKS | dingo, doesn't display RAM and swap separately |
| 06:59.48 | TwistedEmotions | Gabriele: set a password |
| 06:59.50 | groulder | is anyone elses mailgraph broken with the new version 1.11 in sid? |
| 06:59.57 | SerajewelKS | itsjstskl, do you have ncurses headers? |
| 06:59.57 | Gabriele | The pwd is set |
| 06:59.58 | dingo | SerajewelKS: man says it does |
| 07:00.06 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: its probably another configuration thing in my client I just didnt explicitly tell it to do so |
| 07:00.09 | MaxPower | F*** those bots are annoying |
| 07:00.16 | TwistedEmotions | Gabriele: passwd <account> |
| 07:00.21 | Gabriele | I try |
| 07:00.22 | TwistedEmotions | Gabriele: are you sure? |
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| 07:00.31 | Gabriele | one moment |
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| 07:00.39 | morbius | MaxPower, you apply /umode +E ? |
| 07:00.41 | brian__ | my system wont recognize ./configure as a command |
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| 07:00.59 | MaxPower | morbius: •• error » unknown command "UMODE" |
| 07:01.01 | itsjstskl | SerajewelKS, do I need it? because I dont see it in the package list |
| 07:01.07 | Guerin | !wayc brian__ |
| 07:01.08 | dpkg | brian__: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 07:01.16 | morbius | MaxPower, /mode MaxPower +E then |
| 07:01.17 | nvz | brian__: configure is a script usually distributed with source. ./ tells it to run the command from the current dir |
| 07:01.19 | DutchFish | what is the best way to allow access on MySQL on only 1 ip adress? |
| 07:01.23 | TwistedEmotions | MaxPower: /mode MaxPower +E |
| 07:01.28 | TwistedEmotions | Err.. |
| 07:01.30 | MaxPower | Thanks |
| 07:01.30 | TwistedEmotions | too slow. |
| 07:01.30 | cahoot | SerajewelKS: look if vmstat offers the option |
| 07:01.31 | morbius | :p |
| 07:01.31 | SerajewelKS | itsjstskl, IIRC make menuconfig compiles the menu config program, meaning it needs headers |
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| 07:01.36 | Gabriele | Thank's , the solution it was very simple |
| 07:01.38 | SerajewelKS | dingo, ah, so it does |
| 07:01.41 | brian__ | im installing busybox |
| 07:01.43 | Guerin | DutchFish: tell it to only listen on one ip address |
| 07:01.49 | Gabriele | passwd <user> |
| 07:01.55 | Guerin | brian__: apt-get install busybox |
| 07:01.55 | itsjstskl | ehh |
| 07:02.04 | DutchFish | Guerin, my error i meant FROM only 1 ip adress |
| 07:02.05 | viyyer | dingo, what's happening? |
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| 07:02.11 | TwistedEmotions | Gabriele: it worked? |
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| 07:02.20 | MaxPower | Guerin: Thanks again for vsftpd, those boolean options etc.. are piss easier then pro-ftpd |
| 07:02.22 | itsjstskl | I don't see any headers in the package list? |
| 07:02.23 | dingo | viyyer: read the /topic |
| 07:02.27 | groulder | how do you reinstall a package? |
| 07:02.28 | Gabriele | yes, thank's |
| 07:02.36 | TwistedEmotions | Gabriele: ;) |
| 07:02.39 | nvz | groulder: apt-get install --reinstall |
| 07:02.45 | SerajewelKS | itsjstskl, what ncurses package do you have installed |
| 07:02.47 | dingo | viyyer: just hang on you will know whats happening |
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| 07:02.48 | Guerin | DutchFish: oh. I believ you can tell mysqld to accept connections only from certain addresses in the config file ; otherwise you can use iptables or similar. |
| 07:02.49 | SerajewelKS | oh and itsjstskl: |
| 07:02.51 | SerajewelKS | !debian kernel |
| 07:02.51 | dpkg | i guess debian kernel is see kp |
| 07:02.54 | Guerin | MaxPower: no problem. |
| 07:02.55 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 07:02.56 | SerajewelKS | !kp |
| 07:02.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 07:02.59 | justin420 | hi, i have a logitech quickcam pro 3000 and a ati tv tuner pro, and when i go to run xcam i have 2 devices listed v4l:/dev/video0 and v4l:/dev/video1. both of them are titled noname ATI TV Wonder Pro virtual device, but it seems neither work, but the v4l:/dev/video0 turns the light on to my logitech quickcam pro 3000? |
| 07:03.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 437] by debhelper |
| 07:03.01 | dingo | viyyer: dont set the mode as of now |
| 07:03.06 | SerajewelKS | where did that factoid go |
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| 07:03.08 | flankk | MaxPower, hello. |
| 07:03.09 | itsjstskl | I'm on debians website for the kernel |
| 07:03.10 | Guerin | dpkg, no, debian kernel is <reply> see kp |
| 07:03.10 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
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| 07:03.25 | DutchFish | Guerin, is the host.allow and host.deny files a good option? |
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| 07:03.31 | itsjstskl | i'm just not getting why it isn't compiling... doesn't say anything about needing ncurses-headers just says ncurses which i have installed |
| 07:03.33 | timo- | http://pastebin.com/347489 |
| 07:03.34 | Guerin | DutchFish: they could work, yeah. |
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| 07:03.42 | Guerin | DutchFish: but they'll work for everything... |
| 07:03.46 | DutchFish | Guerin, thx |
| 07:03.55 | Guerin | !make menuconfig |
| 07:03.55 | dpkg | If make menuconfig doesn't work because it says ncurses isn't installed, but ncurses is installed, you need to do 'apt-get install libncurses5-dev' |
| 07:03.57 | itsjstskl | It says it cant find Ncurses libraries and i just made sure they were installed |
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| 07:03.58 | TwistedEmotions | itsjstskl: why not use a pre-built kernel? |
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| 07:04.19 | Guerin | itsjstskl: come on, you need dev libraries. It's not open heart surgery, get it together. |
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| 07:04.25 | itsjstskl | gah |
| 07:04.30 | itsjstskl | just switched from freebsd give me a break |
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| 07:04.35 | Guerin | ... |
| 07:04.37 | itsjstskl | never had to go through all of thise |
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| 07:04.54 | DutchFish | Guerin, i thought i could something like mysql: ip allow |
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| 07:05.04 | Guerin | DutchFish: ask #mysql |
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| 07:05.21 | DutchFish | Guerin, ok i will do thx again |
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| 07:05.57 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: still cant get on aim? |
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| 07:06.15 | Devrethman | hello all... again... |
| 07:06.18 | Guerin | jesus, people still use aim? |
| 07:06.22 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: gaim |
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| 07:06.36 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: gaim works fine I mean |
| 07:06.41 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: what do you use? |
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| 07:06.52 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: for what? |
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| 07:07.06 | SerajewelKS | TwistedEmotions, i think Guerin uses irc... |
| 07:07.07 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: messaging? |
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| 07:07.25 | TwistedEmotions | SerajewelKS: I think your right.. |
| 07:07.28 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: email, mostly. ICQ and MSN for my eejit friends. |
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| 07:07.55 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: what up. (= |
| 07:08.02 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: nah. no aim for a while. |
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| 07:08.05 | Devrethman | I just got debian insalled, and as soon as I reboot into it, everything is flooded with nv_raid stuff |
| 07:08.10 | brian__ | how do I see my network devicesa |
| 07:08.13 | Devrethman | it |
| 07:08.13 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: ICQ? Dead technology ;) |
| 07:08.16 | Devrethman | s really annoying |
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| 07:08.19 | Guerin | brian__: ifconfig |
| 07:08.21 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: why dont u use gaim? |
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| 07:08.32 | morbius | how do I configure the e-mail address security updates go to? |
| 07:08.33 | SerajewelKS | TwistedEmotions: |
| 07:08.34 | SerajewelKS | ~your |
| 07:08.35 | apt | your is probably the possessive of you, and is not "you're", which means "you are" |
| 07:08.36 | SerajewelKS | !your |
| 07:08.36 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: X crashes for no reason so i prefer console tools |
| 07:08.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, your is the possessive of you, and is not "you're", which means "you are" |
| 07:08.38 | SerajewelKS | oops |
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| 07:08.44 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: been working for me since 1997 |
| 07:08.46 | midg3t | morbius! |
| 07:09.02 | SerajewelKS | who the heck made ~ a bot trigger, and why do we need two bots |
| 07:09.06 | morbius | midg3t? |
| 07:09.06 | Guerin | i'd use jabber, but nobody I know uses it |
| 07:09.07 | morbius | lol |
| 07:09.15 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: apt predates dpkg |
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| 07:09.18 | TwistedEmotions | Jesus.. I admit my typing sucks ;P Not that a confession was needed. |
| 07:09.25 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: and we need more than one for reasons of redundancy |
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| 07:09.33 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Ahhhh... kk. |
| 07:09.37 | midg3t | morbius: if you don't recognise me you must be a different morbius. |
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| 07:09.40 | SerajewelKS | Guerin, okay... |
| 07:09.46 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: want me to come over and try and fix it? |
| 07:09.50 | morbius | midg3t, I'm just making sure #php off ETG? |
| 07:09.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: sold my airport card for $65 today |
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| 07:10.04 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah.. |
| 07:10.04 | midg3t | yep. |
| 07:10.12 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: that's pimp.. hahaha.. poor jackass that tries to use it. |
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| 07:10.27 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no. the airport card works on osx fine. |
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| 07:10.49 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: found my apartment in davis ;) It's got fiberoptic.. WEeeeee |
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| 07:10.54 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ohh.. |
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| 07:11.00 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: damnnnnnn (= |
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| 07:11.21 | Guerin | fiber-optic connected to 10mbit dsl shared between 100 apartments , wooo |
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| 07:11.23 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: if he comes back for a refund... add him to the list. |
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| 07:11.50 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: haha. nah. hes one happy customer. card for his son actually. |
| 07:12.07 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: wheres the apartment? close by ucd? |
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| 07:12.18 | brian__ | how do I configure a network interface? |
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| 07:12.25 | Guerin | brian__: etherconf |
| 07:12.25 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: the girl promissed me a 1MBit upload... if I dont get it then I use extremedsl.com... upload sucks.. but good prices/download speeds |
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| 07:12.38 | Guerin | brian__: do you know ANYTHING about the OS you're trying to use? |
| 07:12.41 | Devrethman | how do i get my colsole to quit bieng flooded by nv_sata messages |
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| 07:12.49 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah 1 mile off... but expensive as FUCK ;P 750/month. |
| 07:12.56 | Guerin | Devrethman: /msg dpkg klogd |
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| 07:13.09 | brian__ | etherconf = command not found |
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| 07:13.20 | Guerin | !installit |
| 07:13.23 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 07:13.27 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: damn. quite $$. |
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| 07:13.32 | Gabriele | In emacs <CTRL+C> don't function |
| 07:13.33 | Guerin | brian__: or read man interfaces |
| 07:13.37 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: how big is the place? roomates? |
| 07:13.44 | Gabriele | help me |
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| 07:13.50 | Guerin | Gabriele: context |
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| 07:14.11 | Gabriele | context ?!?! |
| 07:14.15 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no roomates.. place is nice. I was looking for ghetto apartment but all taken :P |
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| 07:14.24 | Guerin | Gabriele: more information required |
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| 07:14.42 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: place is like the size of my room? little bigger? |
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| 07:14.47 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahaha.. my friends live in a ghetto apartment at sj.. hahah |
| 07:14.51 | leira | i just find my xchat has no userlit window |
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| 07:14.57 | Gabriele | if I execute a program like tcpdump ... |
| 07:15.01 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: thats pricy then |
| 07:15.13 | Gabriele | I'm not be able to stop it |
| 07:15.13 | leira | how can i let it shown? |
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| 07:15.21 | Guerin | Gabriele: from within emacs ... then you can't kill it with ctrl+c? NO SHIT |
| 07:15.25 | Guerin | Gabriele: man kill |
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| 07:15.29 | Devrethman | that would be great if i could use my comp |
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| 07:15.35 | Guerin | leira: #xchat |
| 07:15.36 | Devrethman | there's no way to do anything |
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| 07:15.43 | Guerin | Devrethman: why not? |
| 07:15.55 | Devrethman | the entire console is constantly flooded with nv_sata messages |
| 07:16.00 | Devrethman | all of them |
| 07:16.02 | leira | Guerin: :) got |
| 07:16.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: your telling me... ;P but it's also got full bathroom, walkin closet, dining room, kitchen.. |
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| 07:16.11 | Devrethman | you can type like half a command and it's off the top of the screen |
| 07:16.14 | Guerin | Devrethman: so? doesn't prevent you from doing things, just from reading output. |
| 07:16.15 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: will get it on digicam ;) |
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| 07:16.28 | Gabriele | if I open another window kill do it ... |
| 07:16.30 | brian__ | so...say I wanted to set an ip address on eth2...how would I go about doing that? |
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| 07:16.31 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: roger that (= |
| 07:16.40 | Devrethman | well dpkg says /etc/init.d/klogd and add "-c 2" to the KLOGD variable. |
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| 07:16.57 | Devrethman | it's impossible to etit anything if you can't tell where the cursor and everything else it |
| 07:16.58 | Devrethman | *is |
| 07:16.59 | Guerin | Devrethman: in other words, you could, for instance, install X and start it, and run an editor in an xterminal; or boot to a livecd, etc. |
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| 07:17.08 | Guerin | Devrethman: show some fucking adaptability |
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| 07:17.23 | TwistedEmotions | Devrethman: kill the messenger program? |
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| 07:17.38 | Guerin | klogd might be run out of init, i'm not sure |
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| 07:17.48 | Devrethman | it starts happening way before init |
| 07:17.50 | TwistedEmotions | That's what I do to CPU overheating messages... hahahaha |
| 07:18.00 | Devrethman | i could fix it in a liveCD if i knew what i had to fix |
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| 07:18.06 | morbius | hmmm I opend GNOME Desktop Settings and everything got way bigger, is there a way to reverse that? |
| 07:18.06 | Roots | wtf, I closed open office like 2 hours ago and I just found out from top that its been eating at 99% of my CPU this whole time. Stupid process, die |
| 07:18.08 | Devrethman | i'll go try adding that klogd thing |
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| 07:18.14 | Guerin | if so, killing it won't work ... but you could try killing it with /etc/init.d/klogd stop |
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| 07:18.26 | Guerin | Roots: that's OO.o for ya |
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| 07:18.56 | justin420 | hi, i have a logitech quickcam pro 3000 and a ati tv tuner pro, and when i go to run xcam i have 2 devices listed v4l:/dev/video0 and v4l:/dev/video1. both of them are titled noname ATI TV Wonder Pro virtual device, but it seems neither work, but the v4l:/dev/video0 turns the light on to my logitech quickcam pro 3000? |
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| 07:19.31 | Roots | I tried to use the HTML editor today with a CSS file I had, and then when I took a piece at the souce it totally messed up everything and threw away the reference to the CSS file |
| 07:19.36 | Roots | So I ended up using Gedit instead :P |
| 07:19.39 | Guerin | justin420: better off asking on a dedicated v4l forum, i reckon. |
| 07:19.43 | TwistedEmotions | Guerin: Isnt that the same message program that gives cpu temp errors? I kill that process all the time |
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| 07:20.03 | Guerin | TwistedEmotions: no idea. Never gives me any problem. |
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| 07:20.10 | justin420 | ok thanks... happen to know any particular one that might be of some help? |
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| 07:20.24 | Guerin | justin420: is there a #v4l here? |
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| 07:20.42 | justin420 | thx |
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| 07:21.32 | Gabriele | signals break in emacs doesn't function ! |
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| 07:21.45 | brian__ | this ipmasq program I have installed is not sharing my internet |
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| 07:21.50 | Guerin | Gabriele: #emacs |
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| 07:21.59 | Guerin | brian__: have you started it? |
| 07:22.07 | Gabriele | #emacs ?!?!? |
| 07:22.08 | streuner | brian__: what error? |
| 07:22.13 | brian__ | just type imasq right? |
| 07:22.17 | Guerin | Gabriele: omg!!!!YES |
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| 07:22.21 | Guerin | brian__: NO |
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| 07:22.33 | Guerin | brian__: /etc/init.d/ipmasq start |
| 07:22.39 | brian__ | how do I start it? |
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| 07:22.56 | Guerin | !fundamentals |
| 07:22.56 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
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| 07:23.03 | Guerin | brian__: you REALLY need to do some reading |
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| 07:23.26 | streuner | brian__: on which box do you have ipmasq installed? |
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| 07:23.45 | brian__ | this one |
| 07:23.53 | Roots | I've found that taking several small naps throughout the day leaves you feeling much more refreshed than sleeping in a single session |
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| 07:24.09 | streuner | brian__: what means this one? your router, a client or whatever? |
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| 07:24.39 | Gabriele | Guerin: omg!!!!YES , that is to say ? |
| 07:24.43 | brian__ | a regualr pc |
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| 07:25.02 | streuner | brian__: on your debian box which is connected diretly to i-net? |
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| 07:25.11 | streuner | directly* |
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| 07:25.38 | brian__ | yes |
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| 07:25.47 | Gabriele | signals break in emacs doesn't function ! |
| 07:25.53 | brian__ | eth1 goes to the internet and eth2 goes to my switch |
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| 07:26.04 | imango | hi, I tried to boot my laptop again fom a usb pendrive of 1Gb using debian boot.img.gz found on a debian website for a clean install. I also added the businesscard iso image to it. the first time I did it, worked fine with no bproblem. I formated the pendrive to fat16 with cfdisk then, zcat the boot.img.gz to it and finaly copied the busi..iso image to it.....my Bios settings are all fine...could help please ...thank you |
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| 07:26.38 | streuner | brian__: can you ping from that box (router) to the clients and vice versa? |
| 07:26.41 | Gabriele | signals break in emacs doesn't function ! |
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| 07:27.07 | brian__ | nope |
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| 07:27.25 | streuner | brian__: check out your cables then |
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| 07:27.43 | streuner | brian__: make sure they are connected correctly |
| 07:28.02 | brian__ | they are not getting an ip address even... everything is connected |
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| 07:28.09 | Gabriele | signals break in emacs doesn't function ! help me |
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| 07:28.18 | streuner | brian__: that wasn't my question |
| 07:28.21 | Guerin | Gabriele: ask #emacs for fuck's sakes |
| 07:28.22 | brian__ | do I need a dhcp server or does ipmasq take care of it? |
| 07:28.27 | streuner | no |
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| 07:28.29 | Guerin | brian__: no dhcp |
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| 07:28.50 | Guerin | brian__: you do need to tell the client machines that your masq server is the gateway - if you do that, it'll work |
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| 07:29.08 | streuner | brian__: in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 07:29.27 | brian__ | my client machines are windows |
| 07:29.35 | streuner | brian__: but, if you can't ping each other its NOT a software problem then |
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| 07:29.49 | streuner | brian__: that's a problem at all too |
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| 07:29.55 | streuner | brian__: NOT* |
| 07:30.00 | sn00p | Has anybody ever used vmware? |
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| 07:30.13 | deadcat | sn00p: nope |
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| 07:30.17 | streuner | dpkg, anybody use |
| 07:30.17 | dpkg | No, no-one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 07:30.19 | brian__ | ping 192.168.0.50 |
| 07:30.22 | brian__ | oops |
| 07:30.31 | sn00p | Where is lsmod stored? |
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| 07:30.34 | streuner | brian__: ping -c1 IP |
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| 07:30.54 | deadcat | sn00p: /sbin/ |
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| 07:31.10 | streuner | !find sbin/lsmod |
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| 07:31.23 | deadcat | sn00p: cant you "whereis lsmod" ? or you just lazy? |
| 07:31.31 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'sbin/lsmod' (1): (/sbin/lsmod) in admin/module-init-tools,base/modutils. |
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| 07:31.43 | streuner | locate would help too... |
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| 07:33.44 | brian__ | im still getting 100% packet loss |
| 07:34.00 | streuner | brian__: scroll up, i told you already |
| 07:34.00 | brian__ | do I need to assign an ip on eth2? |
| 07:34.00 | Gnea | ok |
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| 07:34.22 | Gnea | http://gnea.net/debian_e17_install2cvs.sh <-- updated |
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| 07:34.38 | streuner | brian__: and do what Guerin told you, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 07:35.36 | streuner | brian__: what does ifconfig say about? |
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| 07:35.45 | deadcat | Gnea: build to .deb or just /usr/loca/e17? |
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| 07:36.20 | brian__ | bthom2:/home/brian# ifconfig |
| 07:36.20 | brian__ | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:54:0E:EE:C5 |
| 07:36.20 | brian__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.20 | brian__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.20 | brian__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:44.39 | imango | Hi , I tried to install debian on my laptop via a usb pendrive of 1Gb. It worked fine the first time. I formated the pendrive to fat16 with cfdisk, then I zcat boot.img.gz to it anf finaly copied business.iso image....My bios settings are fine....don't now what could be wrong....help please |
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| 07:47.12 | sn00p | How do I show which packages I have installed? |
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| 07:48.04 | omry | dpkg --get-selections |
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| 07:48.22 | sn00p | ? |
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| 07:48.35 | omry | from the command line. |
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| 07:48.48 | sn00p | What exactly do I have to type |
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| 07:48.56 | omry | dpkg --get-selections |
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| 07:49.36 | Dewi | wow |
| 07:49.47 | Dewi | it's botorific |
| 07:49.48 | Roots | bah, I can't find any option with bit tornado to throttle my upload rate |
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| 07:50.09 | Roots | When I seed at full speed, my download rate goes to crap |
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| 07:50.27 | Dewi | wait a minute, I'm confused - 7 minutes of scrollback is on one screen |
| 07:50.31 | Dewi | how is this #debian? |
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| 07:50.52 | Dewi | did everyone abandon ship? |
| 07:50.55 | omry | just 389 users. |
| 07:50.58 | omry | maybe a split. |
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| 07:51.13 | omry | or maybe everyone are having a party somewhere, and didn't call us. |
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| 07:52.15 | Roots | oh crap. Is Sourceforge CVS down? I can't commit my code!!! |
| 07:52.20 | Gnea | !e17cvs |
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| 07:52.40 | auk | omry: try #debian-overflow |
| 07:52.49 | Roots | It is! Sourceforge is down! OMG |
| 07:52.51 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 07:52.57 | Gnea | dpkg: e17cvs? |
| 07:53.00 | auk | roots: NNOOOOO!!! |
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| 07:54.26 | Roots | prayers worked! Code is committed! All is well! |
| 07:54.28 | morbius | anybody know if the netinstall handles wireless drivers? |
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| 08:03.54 | sn00p | anybody in here use vmware? |
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| 08:04.58 | cahoot | deja vue all over again? |
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| 08:07.30 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 08:07.40 | imango | hello, does any one know how to boot debian from a USB pendrive?...if the size is 1Gb would it matter? |
| 08:08.01 | Octal|IRC | imango : I had a lot of trouble trying that. |
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| 08:08.46 | SerajewelKS | imango, http://flashlinux.sf.net |
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| 08:09.00 | SerajewelKS | er |
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| 08:09.14 | SerajewelKS | http://www.encryptec.net/flashlinux |
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| 08:12.06 | imango | SerajewelKS: Thank you |
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| 08:13.52 | imango | coull you pleas tell me, why I am empty getting private messages from people who are not in the chat room...and I can not block them either please? |
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| 08:15.25 | SerajewelKS | imango, no idea, i was getting those earlier |
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| 08:15.41 | SerajewelKS | ban some of these joinspammers please |
| 08:15.41 | cahoot | imango: try /topiv |
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| 08:15.47 | cahoot | imango: try /topic |
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| 08:17.33 | imango | cahoot: what was that message...I do not unerstand it...was it a trap? |
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| 08:18.00 | cahoot | imango: read the topic of the channel |
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| 08:19.22 | imango | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:22.21 | Flammifer | strange |
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| 08:22.28 | morbius | if i plan on using blackbox apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 isn't going to harm anything is it? |
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| 08:22.40 | Flammifer | epidemy of spambots then ? |
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| 08:23.00 | Flammifer | I guess it means we have to stay away from the main channels |
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| 08:23.11 | morbius | :-/ |
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| 08:42.36 | jefe486 | are we still under attack or it mostly over? |
| 08:42.43 | jefe486 | *is it |
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| 08:46.39 | Dewi | anyone know of a frontend for xine that's more configurable? I'd like to be able to adjust a/v sync and so on |
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| 08:47.10 | defcon8 | wtf |
| 08:47.12 | Dewi | (more configurable than totem I mean) |
| 08:47.14 | defcon8 | i know what this is |
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| 08:47.23 | defcon8 | this people that have been spamming are all turksa |
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| 08:47.32 | defcon8 | probably against americans |
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| 08:47.43 | defcon8 | damn and i live in turkey aswell :( please dont ban me :| |
| 08:47.57 | defcon8 | zeynep, siktir gider misin artik |
| 08:48.00 | defcon8 | yeter |
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| 08:48.10 | Dewi | defcon8: why on earth would turks do anything against americans? :P |
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| 08:48.45 | defcon8 | they hate them man |
| 08:48.50 | drac | hrr, take it to #politics |
| 08:48.51 | defcon8 | iraq and shit |
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| 08:49.03 | Dewi | defcon8: because they hate freedom, right? |
| 08:49.06 | Dewi | defcon8: (I'm joking) |
| 08:49.07 | defcon8 | yeah well its over now |
| 08:49.09 | sn00p | i'll rape turkish women |
| 08:49.17 | defcon8 | im not turk so dont stary opn me :) |
| 08:49.21 | defcon8 | i just hope i dont get banned aswell |
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| 08:49.33 | sn00p | I heard turkish women are hot |
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| 08:50.06 | Dewi | is "xine" an application or a library? |
| 08:50.10 | defcon8 | sn00p, most of them have small tits |
| 08:50.16 | Dewi | because the docs for it seem to have "keyboard shortcuts" and things |
| 08:50.34 | Dewi | and yet there is no debian package other than the lib, and the over-simplified totem gui |
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| 08:51.06 | cahoot | defcon8: sn00p maybe keep the pubertal fantasies out of channel? |
| 08:51.19 | defcon8 | lol |
| 08:51.30 | defcon8 | damn all of those spammer shad turkish names |
| 08:51.41 | defcon8 | all of them from my isp aswell :| |
| 08:51.44 | pureone | can someone mke a script to harvest all there ip addresses and ban them |
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| 08:52.00 | defcon8 | pureone, dont ban me while youre at it |
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| 08:52.18 | cahoot | pureone: the trick in /topic doesn't help you? |
| 08:52.19 | pureone | i havent the powers and i dont think i will ever have them |
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| 08:52.31 | defcon8 | look |
| 08:52.34 | defcon8 | that was another turk |
| 08:52.35 | pureone | yeah it helps |
| 08:52.39 | defcon8 | his name = lonely man |
| 08:52.48 | pureone | defcon8 there not all turks |
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| 08:53.07 | defcon8 | diyar_etenomi |
| 08:53.09 | defcon8 | another turk |
| 08:53.14 | defcon8 | ayla another turk |
| 08:53.19 | defcon8 | yeah they are all turks |
| 08:53.32 | defcon8 | and im prolly gonna get klined now. so if i do please notify lilo or something |
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| 08:53.38 | cahoot | defcon8: hey you're defeating the purpose of the topic |
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| 08:54.01 | defcon8 | whats the +E for? |
| 08:54.26 | Md | no messages from non-indentified users |
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| 08:55.15 | Gumby | +E ignored messages from non regged users |
| 08:55.18 | Gumby | ignores |
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| 08:55.43 | defcon8 | ok |
| 08:55.50 | MaxPower | wh00t finally |
| 08:56.05 | MaxPower | after many days ihave conquered ftp servers on linux |
| 08:56.06 | MaxPower | hehe |
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| 08:57.15 | Dewi | hey, wait, I'm a non-regged user |
| 08:57.17 | Dewi | can nobody hear me?' |
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| 08:57.23 | jefe486 | I hear yoU! |
| 08:57.25 | jefe486 | :) |
| 08:57.29 | Gumby | lol |
| 08:57.43 | Gumby | private messages |
| 08:57.49 | Gumby | channel messages are still seen |
| 08:57.52 | Dewi | aah |
| 08:57.54 | defcon8 | Dewi, nope |
| 08:57.58 | defcon8 | cant see atall |
| 08:58.05 | Dewi | nobody is talking about debian |
| 08:58.12 | Dewi | it's freaking me out |
| 08:58.14 | defcon8 | Dewi, you cant see us either |
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| 08:58.27 | Gumby | debian good, spam bots bad |
| 08:58.40 | defcon8 | damn we need a fucking genocide on irc |
| 08:58.45 | defcon8 | against turks on the irc |
| 08:58.54 | jefe486 | give me a case of bullets and an hour... |
| 08:58.55 | Dewi | sigh. I just want a media player with some controls, like for a/v sync |
| 08:59.03 | defcon8 | have yoyu actually seen how lame and n00by turks aer on irc? |
| 08:59.09 | defcon8 | you just need to learn turkishand see man |
| 08:59.21 | tchino | i have spezify at /etc/exports the rw option, but the boot message tells about 'assuming default bahaviour ('sync')'. What is to be absent |
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| 08:59.58 | Dewi | alright lads |
| 09:00.01 | Dewi | see you later |
| 09:00.03 | Internat | so a stupid question, does anyone know if there is an easy way to make tomcat5.5 a .deb? |
| 09:00.08 | Dewi | I hope all the spammers are gone by then |
| 09:00.15 | jefe486 | any idea why apache doesn't read from my image dir? |
| 09:00.17 | Dewi | Internat: surely somebody would have |
| 09:00.18 | jefe486 | on my website |
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| 09:00.52 | Internat | thats what i thought, but i cant seem to see it anywhere |
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| 09:03.23 | Internat | so no easy way to do it |
| 09:03.27 | morbius | why does nothing download in firefox? |
| 09:03.30 | tchino | nobody an idea?! |
| 09:03.53 | morbius | i alwasy have to right click and 'Save Target As', though on this particular page you click an <input> button to get the download so I can't get anything... |
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| 09:06.27 | filip_ | can i use .rpm in debian? |
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| 09:06.50 | pureone | !alien |
| 09:06.50 | dpkg | hmm... alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
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| 09:07.27 | filip_ | ok. |
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| 09:07.35 | Nwallins | i installed the drupal package, but the docs don't match the filesystem.. specifically the non-existence of /usr/share/drupal/includes/conf.php bts? |
| 09:07.51 | pureone | best you use a deb if you can find it though |
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| 09:08.45 | Nwallins | (this is on sarge) |
| 09:08.51 | filip_ | what should i write to convert an .rpm to .deb ? |
| 09:09.10 | tchino | i have a problem with the sync-option in relation with nfs at boot-prompt |
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| 09:13.24 | deadcat | can you say "movie collector" or just movie fan? |
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| 09:14.29 | xerophyte | What is the different between application server vs gateway server .. i know both can be linux .. just wondering what is the word different |
| 09:14.49 | Gumby | filip_: you can use alien |
| 09:15.03 | Gumby | but get ready for possible dependancy issues |
| 09:15.24 | wols_ | xerophyte: I'd say a "gateway server" is a router or proxy. an application server is some totally different |
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| 09:16.20 | xerophyte | wols_, can the webserver,mysql, email, fall into the gateway server .. or application server |
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| 09:16.36 | Gumby | application servers act as servers that house applications where a gateway is just that, a gateway to something else ie: internet |
| 09:16.42 | wols_ | xerophyte: app server |
| 09:17.09 | xerophyte | hmmm |
| 09:18.01 | xerophyte | wols_, what will be the name for the linux base desktop ? |
| 09:18.58 | wols_ | what is a "linux base desktop" again? |
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| 09:19.34 | xerophyte | is it safe to say application server ? |
| 09:19.45 | wols_ | a desktop is not a server |
| 09:19.57 | drac | X is an server |
| 09:19.59 | xerophyte | wols_, what is the name for it |
| 09:20.10 | xerophyte | wols_, you know whati mean .. |
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| 09:20.23 | wols_ | xerophyte: no i don't since I'm not psychic |
| 09:20.43 | filip_ | is it only to type alien /home/me/thefile.rpm and it will convert it to an .deb ? |
| 09:20.49 | xerophyte | wols_, hmmm |
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| 09:22.43 | drac | filip_: try to find .deb first, or even install from source.. those converted .rpms work only with good luck. |
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| 09:23.29 | filip_ | i have try to find .deb but i dont find it. is it hard to install from source ? |
| 09:24.07 | wols_ | filip_: not hard, but dependency checking totally goes out the window of course |
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| 09:24.15 | cahoot | filip_: what app? |
| 09:24.22 | wols_ | and if you already have problems with a simple call to alien, probably too hard for you |
| 09:24.44 | wols_ | you know, there are things like manpages, even for alien |
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| 09:25.35 | filip_ | i have convert the .rpm to .deb but i can find the .deb |
| 09:25.40 | cahoot | filip_: what app? |
| 09:25.48 | filip_ | vmware |
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| 09:26.56 | wols_ | filip_: have you ever compiled your own kernel? applied patches to a vanilla kernel? |
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| 09:27.12 | filip_ | never |
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| 09:27.34 | filip_ | /home/filip/Desktop/vmware/vmware.rpm |
| 09:27.41 | wols_ | and have you looked at: http://fbriere.net/debian/vmware/ ? |
| 09:27.53 | filip_ | nope |
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| 09:28.25 | wols_ | then google for "vmware deb" next time please |
| 09:28.36 | tchino | in which package is locate |
| 09:28.48 | filip_ | okej, you never stop learning. |
| 09:28.49 | wols_ | tchino: packages.debian.org will know |
| 09:28.50 | cahoot | slocate? |
| 09:28.59 | Internat | so no good tutorials for making a .deb for tomcat 5? |
| 09:29.06 | Internat | any good tutorials for using tomcat5.5 on debian? |
| 09:29.08 | wols_ | !nm |
| 09:29.08 | dpkg | somebody said nm was New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. And also nevermind, or a program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 09:29.20 | Mage_ | Internat: there's a tomcat5 package in unstable |
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| 09:30.35 | tchino | wols_: that need login-data |
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| 09:30.39 | Internat | yeah, i saw that, but i need 5.5 |
| 09:31.01 | wols_ | tchino: it needs what? |
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| 09:31.41 | wols_ | I most definitely can be used by anyone with a webbrowser. no login, no cookies, nada |
| 09:31.45 | wols_ | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bin%2Flocate&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 09:31.46 | dli | any scim users? |
| 09:32.06 | cahoot | tchino: apt-cache search slocate |
| 09:32.34 | wols_ | and cahoot is right: findutils and slocate |
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| 09:33.32 | tchino | cahoot: ok, i installed it |
| 09:34.05 | cahoot | tchino: run updatedb to have any use of it |
| 09:34.10 | SimonRaven | dlocate too is nice. db of dpkg -S stuff. makes things really quick |
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| 09:38.33 | emergo | when I use k3b (debian, testing ) It wont create dvd plates(dvd video) it sees the dvd, but try to use cd so it says I dont have enough space . . . |
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| 09:39.24 | SimonRaven | what's a dvd plate? |
| 09:40.02 | emergo | dvd disc |
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| 09:40.37 | emergo | SimonRaven: in my language the disc is calllled a plate . . . |
| 09:40.38 | SimonRaven | ah ok |
| 09:40.58 | emergo | SimonRaven: so just a little tired here |
| 09:41.00 | SimonRaven | what is your language, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 09:41.04 | SimonRaven | it's ok |
| 09:41.10 | emergo | norwegian |
| 09:41.19 | SimonRaven | cool |
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| 09:41.50 | emergo | SimonRaven: you have any other tools than k3b to burn dvd movies ? |
| 09:42.02 | SimonRaven | i don't know k3b, but can you select another device to read from? |
| 09:42.18 | SimonRaven | yeh, there's a few apt-cache search dvd burn |
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| 09:43.06 | sn00p | oh dear |
| 09:43.31 | dli | SimonRaven, gcombust |
| 09:43.33 | emergo | SimonRaven: well I can change to my dvd player, but I still cant burn, cause it tries to reach my cd instead. So I guess i bug |
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| 09:43.38 | kspath | gnomebaker, cdtool, nautilus |
| 09:43.44 | SimonRaven | dli: ah, thanks |
| 09:43.47 | kspath | xdroast? |
| 09:43.55 | kspath | xcdroast? |
| 09:44.11 | syntaxx | im new into debian. i have problems in loading my X as well as my screen resolution. is there anybody here who can help me? |
| 09:44.18 | emergo | xcdroast didnt take dvds |
| 09:44.31 | skate | syntaxx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:44.37 | skate | unless you are running xorg |
| 09:44.38 | emergo | kspath: or at least I didnt fix the "key" thing |
| 09:44.46 | wols_ | syntaxx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 until it works |
| 09:44.59 | syntaxx | skate: i did.. but when i start X it i have an error in it |
| 09:45.15 | skate | syntaxx: immediately after that, there is a filepath to the error log |
| 09:45.16 | skate | read it |
| 09:45.18 | emergo | kspath: any of these come with a dvd video template ? |
| 09:45.22 | Meet | òÕÓÓËÉÅ ÅÓÔØ? |
| 09:45.30 | dli | syntaxx, what's the path? |
| 09:45.50 | Meet | îÕ É ÐÉÄÏÒÙ ×Ù ×ÓÅ |
| 09:45.58 | dli | emergo, I think gcombust does |
| 09:46.02 | tchino | when can i configurate grub |
| 09:46.06 | emergo | SimonRaven: any of these come with wizard or easy guis |
| 09:46.16 | emergo | dli: ill try it |
| 09:46.18 | wols_ | Mage_: use ASCII and talk english please |
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| 09:46.27 | SimonRaven | emergo: some of the others the other people mentioned? |
| 09:46.30 | wols_ | erm, Meet |
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| 09:46.44 | syntaxx | dli: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 09:46.56 | dli | tchino, vi /boot/grub/menu.lst, read before writting |
| 09:47.02 | syntaxx | dli: Undefined Monitor "Samsumg 753" referenced by Screen "Default Screen" |
| 09:47.07 | wols_ | syntaxx: delete the file and run dpkg-recomnfigure again |
| 09:47.15 | syntaxx | ok |
| 09:47.19 | skate | dude, stop confusing him |
| 09:47.26 | dli | syntaxx, if so, rm move it, and dpkg-reconfigure again |
| 09:47.28 | skate | you don't need to delete anything. |
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| 09:47.46 | sn00p | is there a flash plugin for firefox in debian? |
| 09:47.49 | SimonRaven | s/he'll need to re-do the md5sum for that to work |
| 09:47.54 | skate | debconf will overwrite his XF86Config-4, or create it if it doesn't exist |
| 09:48.01 | SimonRaven | !x md5sum |
| 09:48.01 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 09:48.09 | streuner | sn00p: didn't i told you that several hours ago? |
| 09:48.11 | skate | listen to SimonRaven |
| 09:48.13 | cahoot | sn00p: heard ofapt-cache search? |
| 09:48.30 | streuner | sn00p: /msg apt marillat |
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| 09:48.47 | syntaxx | wols_: when i typed X it runs now.. |
| 09:49.04 | debugger | how can I confige debian/linux for hidding other user processes from top, etc? in FreeBSD I could do this by changing the sysctl security.bsd.see_other_uids, but how is this done in linux? |
| 09:49.06 | wols_ | syntaxx:you should run startx. not X |
| 09:49.23 | emergo | dli: gcombust must be run as root ? |
| 09:49.42 | syntaxx | wols_: startx always giving up |
| 09:49.53 | syntaxx | wols_: xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server |
| 09:49.55 | dli | emergo, I do run it as root, but I think you may just add user to the disk group |
| 09:49.58 | wols_ | well, X is certainly the wrong way to run it |
| 09:50.05 | syntaxx | wols_: xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. |
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| 09:50.13 | sn00p | streuner: i dont see anything about flashplugin |
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| 09:50.35 | skate | syntaxx: it's already been explained what you need to do. either read the errors in the logfile, or reconfigure X and stop lying about your input devices and video hardware to it |
| 09:50.37 | streuner | sn00p: add the source and run apt-cache search <string> |
| 09:50.46 | sn00p | Add what source |
| 09:50.55 | streuner | apt, marillat |
| 09:50.56 | apt | [marillat] an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
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| 09:51.11 | syntaxx | ok ill reboot |
| 09:51.21 | skate | reboot? |
| 09:51.24 | sn00p | I read it |
| 09:51.52 | sn00p | Where do I add the source |
| 09:51.55 | SimonRaven | reboot? |
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| 09:52.13 | streuner | sn00p: http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/pool/main/f/flash-player/flashplayer-mozilla_7.0.25-0.0_i386.deb |
| 09:52.14 | SimonRaven | *blink* WTH would you want to reboot? |
| 09:52.42 | streuner | sn00p: no idea is that for unstable or stable... |
| 09:52.55 | sn00p | i'm using sarge 3.1 stable |
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| 09:53.05 | streuner | apt, tell sn00p about mplayer |
| 09:53.09 | streuner | read that |
| 09:53.22 | morbius | anybody have a 'Microsoft Internet Keyboard' and able to tell me what I want to specify in X in order to get the function keys to recognize |
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| 09:53.42 | emergo | viD.AC3-Ice/The.Philosophy.of.Time.Travel/files |
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| 09:54.14 | dli | how to prevent spammers from openning tabs here in xchat? |
| 09:54.24 | morbius | dli, /umode +E |
| 09:54.32 | dli | morbius, thanks |
| 09:54.32 | streuner | dli: /topic |
| 09:54.49 | cahoot | and #xchat for good measure |
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| 09:55.11 | morbius | now somebody fix my keyboard :p hehe |
| 09:55.24 | sn00p | streuner: ok I did that now what |
| 09:55.27 | streuner | cahoot: command mentioned in topic works like a charm for X-Chat too |
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| 09:55.47 | scenestar | morbius |
| 09:55.49 | streuner | sn00p: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update |
| 09:55.52 | skate | morbius: is there an f-lock key on your board? |
| 09:55.59 | skate | like a number lock or caps lock |
| 09:56.04 | cahoot | streuner: was hinting to how to make it 'automagic' at restart |
| 09:56.06 | sn00p | streuner: What does that do? |
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| 09:56.44 | morbius | skate, : no |
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| 09:57.04 | streuner | sn00p: it updates your sources.list and so your avaiable sources (debs) |
| 09:57.14 | dli | morbius, what are those spammers doing? they just opened tabs, without any message at all |
| 09:57.23 | morbius | no clue |
| 09:57.26 | sn00p | streuner: ok i'm still not finding flash plugin |
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| 09:57.54 | jhaig | If I am going to set up LVM does it matter how I format the partitions? Is there any benefit of ext3 or reiserfs? |
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| 09:58.15 | streuner | sn00p: ok, could be that flash plugin isn't in repo (marillat) for stable |
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| 09:58.21 | emergo | dli: gcombust can do dvds ? cant find |
| 09:58.23 | pureone | ~start a fs war |
| 09:58.25 | apt | AFS is better than SysVfs!! |
| 09:58.32 | morbius | skate, its got all the 'internet keys' -> back, forward, stop, mail, search, favoriates, web/home |
| 09:58.34 | liable | why do I get the need invite bullshit for debian-overflow? |
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| 09:58.53 | sn00p | how do I add a paackage with dpkg? |
| 09:58.54 | morbius | yeah i'm the spelling champ! s/favoriates/favorites/ |
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| 09:59.09 | dli | emergo, I burnt DVD with gcombust long long ago, I will see |
| 09:59.16 | wols_ | sn00p: dpkg -i |
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| 09:59.31 | jhaig | pureone: Sorry, didn't mean to start a fs war - just wanted to know if there is anything I need to know before setting up LVM. |
| 09:59.40 | SimonRaven | s/favorites/favourites/ |
| 09:59.44 | liable | are we opsless?? |
| 09:59.48 | streuner | sn00p: you can't use a package made for unstable |
| 09:59.52 | dli | emergo, yes |
| 09:59.53 | SimonRaven | spell it correctly already ;) |
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| 10:00.19 | sn00p | I'm using stable |
| 10:00.24 | liable | you talking to me SimonRaven ? |
| 10:00.42 | morbius | liable, no...me |
| 10:00.43 | SimonRaven | morbius |
| 10:00.43 | tchino | how can i toggle free a webside over apache from my server to different clients |
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| 10:00.47 | liable | oh |
| 10:00.52 | streuner | sn00p: yes, so did you try 'apt-cache search flash plugin'? |
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| 10:01.00 | joachim | hi |
| 10:01.00 | sn00p | yea |
| 10:01.18 | dondelelcaro | liable: you could read the /topic on #debian-overflow, you know. |
| 10:01.23 | sn00p | NOthing shows up |
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| 10:01.36 | scenestar | hey, whats up with all these idiots pmming me? |
| 10:01.49 | morbius | scenestar, /topic |
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| 10:01.52 | SimonRaven | ooh fancy css for BTS site |
| 10:02.06 | liable | dondelelcaro: well, for some reason lately I get a message from freenode telling me I need an invite, and cant even get into overflow.. |
| 10:02.11 | streuner | apt, info flashplugin-nonfree stable |
| 10:02.18 | liable | dondelelcaro: how do I stop this? |
| 10:02.20 | dondelelcaro | liable: yes, overflow sometimes goes +i |
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| 10:02.31 | liable | dondelelcaro: I am +i |
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| 10:02.39 | dli | morbius, why couldn't the irc server just ban those spammer IPs? |
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| 10:02.48 | dondelelcaro | liable: CHANMODE +i, not UMODE +i. |
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| 10:03.27 | sn00p | streuner: Where do I get that at |
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| 10:03.48 | streuner | sn00p: thats just in the official repos... |
| 10:03.50 | liable | dondelelcaro: hmm, well i have gotten 3 /msg from bots in 3 mins, can you ban them or is it bigger than just debian? |
| 10:03.53 | liable | 4 |
| 10:04.01 | dondelelcaro | liable: there are way too many to bother banning |
| 10:04.02 | sn00p | So I cant install it? |
| 10:04.03 | dondelelcaro | liable: /topic |
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| 10:04.10 | liable | heh, ok |
| 10:04.13 | scenestar | wait |
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| 10:04.19 | dondelelcaro | the only thing worth doing is klining them, and I'm not an IRCOP |
| 10:04.20 | scenestar | what is mode +e? |
| 10:04.29 | dondelelcaro | !tell scenestar -about fn modes |
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| 10:04.35 | scenestar | thank you |
| 10:04.39 | liable | haha, for once, I need a topicsmite.. :) |
| 10:04.47 | sn00p | streuner: I cant install it? |
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| 10:05.11 | streuner | scenestar: +E set the mode, only identified users can /msg you then... |
| 10:05.25 | streuner | sn00p: of course, via apt-get install |
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| 10:05.52 | sn00p | streuner: it cant find the name of the package |
| 10:05.56 | ubuntuser | welcome, I want to run game CUBE and it's missing libSDL_image-1.2.so.0, what should I apt-get? |
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| 10:06.28 | syntaxx | thanks guys my resolution is fine |
| 10:06.30 | LittleIdiot | apt-cache search libsdl-image and then install the one you need |
| 10:06.45 | ubuntuser | thx |
| 10:06.46 | SimonRaven | ubuntuser: #ubuntu, FYI |
| 10:06.57 | scenestar | can anyone explain why firefox wont run on an gnome-core install?. |
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| 10:07.03 | SimonRaven | but yeh, same instructions apply |
| 10:07.04 | dondelelcaro | ubuntuser: also, see packages.debian.org |
| 10:07.26 | sn00p | streuner: I cant find it when I do search |
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| 10:07.35 | streuner | sn00p: flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 10:07.46 | jnc | eeeehh... anyone familiar with PROM burning? |
| 10:07.51 | streuner | sn00p: ok, its in contrib |
| 10:08.05 | jnc | i haven't found a DFSG compatible solution to PROM burning |
| 10:08.05 | streuner | sn00p: add to your sources.list 'contrib' |
| 10:08.08 | LittleIdiot | pron, but not prom |
| 10:08.09 | SimonRaven | jnc: i think i recall an app or 2 that can handle that |
| 10:08.13 | jnc | was hoping i'd missed something and you guys know |
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| 10:08.21 | jnc | SimonRaven: oooh know what was its name? |
| 10:08.24 | SimonRaven | i don't recall the name, sorry |
| 10:08.28 | jnc | bam! |
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| 10:08.42 | SimonRaven | look for flash burn |
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| 10:08.59 | sn00p | streuner: I just type contrib at the end? |
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| 10:09.13 | jnc | ;) |
| 10:09.19 | jnc | SimonRaven: what hardware would it operate with? |
| 10:09.30 | streuner | sn00p: deb http://ftp.<TLD>.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 10:09.30 | jnc | i want to burn some PROMs used in midi drum synth hardware |
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| 10:09.51 | jnc | the manufacturer gave me an intel split byte hex dump of the latest firmware for a hardware device |
| 10:10.00 | jnc | i'm supposed to buy some prom chips, a burner, and do it |
| 10:10.03 | SimonRaven | mtd-tools - memory Technology Device Tools, flashybrid - automates use of a flash disk as the root filesystem, vrflash - tool to flash kernels and romdisks to Agenda VR |
| 10:10.13 | jnc | oh |
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| 10:10.15 | SimonRaven | ap-tcache search flash |
| 10:10.19 | jnc | perhaps that's not what i meant |
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| 10:10.28 | SimonRaven | er, whatever :) |
| 10:10.30 | jnc | SimonRaven: i think there's a difference in terms |
| 10:10.38 | SimonRaven | oh, i see |
| 10:10.38 | jnc | i meant flash like, an EEPROM |
| 10:10.48 | SimonRaven | yeh that's what i was looking for |
| 10:10.53 | leira | my firefox cannot startup anymore, it seems blocked some where. and there is a gconfd-2 process running with firefox, and still runing after firefox killed |
| 10:10.53 | jnc | ah |
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| 10:11.06 | SimonRaven | avrdude - software for programming Atmel AVR microcontrollers |
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| 10:11.11 | SimonRaven | ftdi-eeprom - Tool for reading/erasing/flashing FTDI USB chip eeproms |
| 10:11.12 | concept10 | I have a motherboard that will not boot from its onboard IDE, and I have a IDE card, may I install and boot debian from that? |
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| 10:11.17 | wols_ | SimonRaven: more flash |
| 10:11.25 | leira | it seems something in gconf2 blocked |
| 10:11.30 | jnc | i've seen those |
| 10:11.34 | jnc | haven't known .. |
| 10:11.35 | jnc | haha |
| 10:11.46 | wols_ | jnc: do you already have an eprom burner? |
| 10:11.50 | jnc | ..haven't known any reports from people who used them on the type of chip i need to flash |
| 10:12.01 | leira | anyone met the same problem? |
| 10:12.03 | wols_ | jnc: eeprom or eprom? |
| 10:12.06 | jnc | wols_: nopers. i would invest in one without hesitation should i find it to work with linux |
| 10:12.06 | liable | concept10: try it? |
| 10:12.10 | SimonRaven | ok.. might want o go see at sf.net or freshmeat |
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| 10:12.34 | jnc | wols_: let me look at the email from the JoMoX rep who sent me the hex file, give me a second |
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| 10:12.53 | jnc | he spec'd the chip out, it will just be a moment while i find the info |
| 10:12.56 | wols_ | jnc: eprom bruners are sort of proprietary, so better ask the maker of your future burner about linux support |
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| 10:13.39 | wols_ | concept10: if your PCI ata card can boot and it has debian drivers (preferably free and built into the kernel) it will work |
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| 10:15.20 | concept10 | I dont understand this problem. I can use IDE with LiveCDs fine, and the install runs fine on the motherboard, but it wont boot, keeps saying insert a boot disk (motherboard related) |
| 10:15.44 | concept10 | I even have the disk disabled |
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| 10:16.15 | jnc | wols_: 2 chips 27C512 100ns |
| 10:16.19 | jnc | (from the email) |
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| 10:16.26 | wols_ | eprom then |
| 10:16.27 | hyperstrea1 | !dpkg java |
| 10:16.27 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive, consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). |
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| 10:16.31 | wols_ | eprom is NOT flash |
| 10:16.36 | hyperstrea1 | !install java |
| 10:16.36 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? If you're in sarge or sid, ask me about <java-package>. If you're in woody, grab java-package manually from http://packages.debian.org/java-package and then ask me about <java-package> for instructions on how to use it. Also, ask me about <java-package howto> |
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| 10:16.54 | wols_ | unless you buy a dedicated eprom burner, you won't be able to burn those files |
| 10:17.00 | jnc | yeah |
| 10:17.04 | jnc | that's what i'm going on about |
| 10:17.05 | wols_ | and if you buy one, it will dictate what software to use |
| 10:17.13 | jnc | i haven't found a DFSG compatible solution |
| 10:17.27 | jnc | isn't there a free solution to burn PROMs? |
| 10:17.31 | syntaxx | wols_: what do i need to read for X fonts? |
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| 10:17.34 | wols_ | then your SOL. many of them still work under DOS. might FreeDOS be an alternative? |
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| 10:17.58 | jnc | i find it terribly ironic that the FSF is working to develop an open BIOS |
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| 10:18.09 | jnc | and to burn that we still are dependent on Windows |
| 10:18.23 | jnc | (or dos, however the DOS PROM burners are not to be found IMO) |
| 10:18.28 | wols_ | since you always need hardware (which pretty much always comes with the needed software), thereis no real reason to have a DFSG solution: software and hardware are a single package |
| 10:18.28 | frank__ | Hi all. I'm on a SID.When I plug a usb external hdd the icon doesn't appear on the desktop(gnome). Any hint? |
| 10:18.33 | SimonRaven | ....a machine that can burn its own prom... *hint* |
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| 10:18.41 | sn00p | just use burncd |
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| 10:18.46 | wols_ | no. nowadays all PCs use Flash, not EPROMS |
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| 10:18.55 | wols_ | so no one needs Windows for burning anything |
| 10:18.58 | jnc | well okay |
| 10:19.02 | SimonRaven | PCs, you mean x86 boxen |
| 10:19.11 | SimonRaven | be specific, dear ;) |
| 10:19.16 | wols_ | SimonRaven: apple boxen too |
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| 10:19.44 | wols_ | all PDAs, mobiles, etc use flash instead of EPROMS |
| 10:19.49 | wols_ | so no, it's not x86 specific |
| 10:19.52 | jnc | it's just odd that i can't find anything that is F/OSS which lets me burn a freakin' PROM. i mean, not even a custom built PCB project from some dude's back yard in new zealand |
| 10:20.12 | SimonRaven | wols_: ok. do you happen to know the size of those chips on the neworlds? |
| 10:20.21 | SimonRaven | newworlds even |
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| 10:20.46 | frank__ | is there any irc channel for newbies? |
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| 10:20.57 | SimonRaven | ask away |
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| 10:21.09 | phretor | hi there |
| 10:21.28 | jnc | frank__: not really. there is a communications project i volunteer for |
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| 10:21.32 | jnc | that's about it |
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| 10:21.47 | wols_ | SimonRaven: no clue. Im not part of the cult of teh Steve :P |
| 10:21.48 | jnc | #debian can be friendly if you're smart and ask good questions |
| 10:21.50 | wols_ | jnc: http://outflux.net/software/pkgs/EPROM/ |
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| 10:22.16 | SimonRaven | wols_: i ain't either. ;). i just run it 'cause i like the arch. |
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| 10:22.39 | jnc | SimonRaven: my mystic mac is still sitting there |
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| 10:22.43 | SimonRaven | i like OF too |
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| 10:22.54 | jnc | SimonRaven: you know that Laurent got it to boot off nfs, right? |
| 10:23.03 | SimonRaven | ooh, nice |
| 10:23.04 | frank__ | jnc: I ask questions but nobody help me |
| 10:23.04 | jnc | he wrote a bootloader for 68k macs |
| 10:23.13 | SimonRaven | cool :) |
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| 10:23.17 | jnc | frank__: welcome to real life, :/ |
| 10:23.27 | frank__ | ubuntu is better |
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| 10:23.36 | jnc | uhh |
| 10:23.38 | frank__ | ls |
| 10:23.39 | phretor | network interfaces are named eth[0-n] as the corresponding modules are loaded. So, my wifi could be eth0 if loaded first or eth1 if loaded as the second. How do I manage ifup-down scripts without bothering of interface names? |
| 10:24.02 | SimonRaven | frank__: see dmesg | less if the machine detected it |
| 10:24.12 | SimonRaven | frank__: scroll to the bottom |
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| 10:24.44 | wols_ | phretor: by carefully loading the kernel module(s) for your NICs |
| 10:25.13 | phretor | wols_: modules are loaded by ifup scripts |
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| 10:25.53 | aum | hi - after upgrading glibc, nfs-kernel-server and portmap (on unstable), nfs-kernel-server fails to start up - any ideas? |
| 10:25.53 | phretor | wols_: the user should not be aware of those phisical details |
| 10:25.55 | SimonRaven | frank__: if it didn't you can use the menu in a nautilus window, go to 'Computer' |
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| 10:26.07 | SimonRaven | frank__: sorry, s/didn't/did/ |
| 10:26.18 | wols_ | phretor: if he shouldn't then design a better mechanism. all you need is already there and in the open |
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| 10:26.21 | SimonRaven | aum: read your logs |
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| 10:26.41 | jnc | wols_: nice |
| 10:26.52 | jnc | wols_: somehow i think i've seen this, but did not realize |
| 10:26.57 | aum | SimonRaven: which log in particular? |
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| 10:27.09 | SimonRaven | syslog, to start |
| 10:27.12 | wols_ | jnc: problem is, it looks like for a different chip 27c801 :( |
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| 10:28.06 | jnc | wols_: i wish i were a decent programmer |
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| 10:28.41 | jnc | i'm good at other things... can't make myself think hard enough to deal with low level interfaces |
| 10:29.12 | wols_ | jnc: http://geert.fannes.net/oerot/Main.php?menu=db&id=14&homeid=6#eprom |
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| 10:29.41 | jnc | wols_: do you think a project needs a leader who can program? |
| 10:29.44 | tweekken___ | is it my imagination or is there an annoying amount of msg spamming happening this day? |
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| 10:29.49 | jnc | i would like to see some sort of coherence |
| 10:29.53 | jethro | tweekken___: /topic |
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| 10:30.00 | jnc | a single project that lets people burn PROMs |
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| 10:30.58 | wols_ | jnc: depends. you will need software for it to work, so you have to find someone who can program or adapt something existing to your needs |
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| 10:31.32 | jnc | oh |
| 10:31.33 | wols_ | jnc: what other qualities do you have which would you make a good starter of a EPROM programmer project leader? |
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| 10:31.59 | jnc | "i'm good looking" does not apply, i guess |
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| 10:32.31 | liable | zoolander... |
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| 10:32.57 | SimonRaven | looks really neat though |
| 10:33.00 | MaxPower | hey, is there anyway of making a mounted NTFS partition +RWX? |
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| 10:33.13 | SimonRaven | a bit of tweaking you could probably do it |
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| 10:33.29 | aum | after upgrading glibc, nfs-kernel-server and portmap, i'm getting 'nfssvc: no such device' in syslog, and nfsd won't start up |
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| 10:33.44 | liable | aum: bts.. |
| 10:33.49 | MaxPower | what type of tweaking? |
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| 10:34.11 | SimonRaven | i wasn't speaking ntfs |
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| 10:34.11 | SimonRaven | of* |
| 10:34.21 | aum | bts? |
| 10:34.23 | jnc | liable: :) |
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| 10:34.26 | MaxPower | oh ok :) |
| 10:34.27 | liable | ffs |
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| 10:34.34 | jnc | liable: freak gasoline fight? |
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| 10:34.44 | SimonRaven | aum: /msg dpkg tell me about bts |
| 10:34.48 | liable | jnc: heh, glad someone got it :) |
| 10:34.49 | jethro | MaxPower: /msg dpkg captive |
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| 10:35.13 | SimonRaven | aum: see if your exports file is correct |
| 10:35.34 | aum | my exports file is same as before the upgrade |
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| 10:36.18 | liable | aum: file a bug... (or, shock, horror, check if there already is one...) |
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| 10:37.20 | SimonRaven | jnc: BTW, some of the d-i people might be interested in that m68k bootloader your friend has. #debian-boot |
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| 10:37.38 | jnc | SimonRaven: will persue |
| 10:37.43 | SimonRaven | cool |
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| 10:38.17 | SimonRaven | they also have a mailing list (usual place, lists.d.o) |
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| 10:39.59 | jnc | SimonRaven: i wish there was an update to sarge to make it work on mac68k |
| 10:40.03 | concept10 | anyone know what a serial presence detector is ? |
| 10:40.05 | jnc | last time i tried, it wouldn't even install |
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| 10:40.30 | Mage_ | am I the only one who get spammed by some turkish lamers ? |
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| 10:40.36 | Mage_ | (in query) |
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| 10:40.54 | jnc | Mage_: botnet |
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| 10:41.01 | wols_ | Mage_: read topic |
| 10:41.02 | jnc | freenode folks are keenly aware of it |
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| 10:41.06 | jefe486 | Anyone remember the site that had descriptions of what forum members what be/look like in real life? |
| 10:41.14 | SimonRaven | jnc: seems that if part of miboot is re-written, we can make it dfsg-free |
| 10:41.16 | Mage_ | thanks |
| 10:41.21 | jnc | SimonRaven: that would be hot |
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| 10:41.29 | jnc | i have a 6116cd pimped out and waiting for an update |
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| 10:41.35 | SimonRaven | means we can cd boot ppc macs etc. |
| 10:41.44 | SimonRaven | oldworld ppc macs i mean |
| 10:41.46 | Mage_ | (what does +E ?) |
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| 10:41.54 | wols_ | Mage_: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 10:42.00 | jnc | now, CD booting of oldworld ppc macs might not be DFSG legitimate |
| 10:42.06 | jnc | you'd still need an MacOS CD |
| 10:42.07 | SimonRaven | only allow /msgs / /query from identified users |
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| 10:42.22 | SimonRaven | atm, yes |
| 10:42.40 | jnc | the 68k macs however do not require any legacy stuff |
| 10:42.49 | jnc | the bootloader works much cleaner there |
| 10:42.51 | Mage_ | thanks :p |
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| 10:43.05 | jnc | Laurent (EMILE author) has claimed that ppc bootloader is simple to do |
| 10:43.11 | SimonRaven | only thing i saw was penguin19 for those, before you told us about that bootloader |
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| 10:43.15 | jnc | he will add it to EMILE as time and hardware permits |
| 10:43.21 | jnc | ya |
| 10:43.22 | SimonRaven | cool |
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| 10:43.26 | jnc | bye bye penguin19 |
| 10:43.27 | jnc | :) |
| 10:43.38 | jnc | i should get my Mystic mac up and running again |
| 10:43.46 | jnc | it's only been, what, 10 years? |
| 10:43.51 | SimonRaven | yeh, really |
| 10:43.54 | jnc | stuff should be supported already darn it |
| 10:43.59 | SimonRaven | yeh |
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| 10:44.03 | jnc | i think the Mystic Mac is the one i want supported so badly |
| 10:44.06 | jnc | it is darn cute |
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| 10:44.13 | jnc | text adventure games would be nice |
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| 10:44.31 | SimonRaven | sure is. also quadra 840av ;). man, the hardware on those... |
| 10:44.35 | jnc | say um, what do you suggest i install on the mystic mac? |
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| 10:44.58 | jnc | the 2.6.x kernel isn't quite there yet |
| 10:45.00 | SimonRaven | 40 MHz '040, AV sound and video... |
| 10:45.05 | jnc | =) |
| 10:45.16 | jnc | mine's a measely 33mhz |
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| 10:45.39 | SimonRaven | stick to simple stuff for now. yeh, i have a q800 sitting nealy empty :/ |
| 10:45.45 | SimonRaven | near* |
| 10:45.55 | SimonRaven | this kbs is to sticky |
| 10:45.59 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 10:46.27 | phretor | I'm on a unstable Debian. Last time I installed kde I just apt-get install kde. Now it fails for unmet dependencies. |
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| 10:46.35 | SimonRaven | installing a base woody took overnight ;) |
| 10:46.53 | SimonRaven | phretor: hold off on kde for now. there's unmet deps ;) |
| 10:47.10 | phretor | SimonRaven: any suggestion? |
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| 10:47.18 | jnc | phretor: the alternative is to compile the missing deps yourself, but that may not even work |
| 10:47.23 | SimonRaven | C++ abi transition, gcc 4, and some jack libs are holding it up |
| 10:47.25 | subgv | How to switch the nic card interfaces? like eth0 to eth1, vice verse |
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| 10:47.35 | jnc | subgv: nameif |
| 10:47.42 | jnc | man /etc/mactab |
| 10:47.45 | phretor | jnc: so I've to forget about KDE |
| 10:47.46 | SimonRaven | the stuff to build it locally isn't quite all there yet |
| 10:47.56 | SimonRaven | phretor: for now |
| 10:47.57 | jnc | phretor: you *are* running unstable. :/ |
| 10:47.59 | jnc | i am too |
| 10:48.04 | jnc | it's just something i live with for now |
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| 10:48.22 | subgv | jnc: thx, life saver =) |
| 10:48.30 | phretor | jnc: right but I've a fresh system, do I have to live without a desktop manager? :-) |
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| 10:48.38 | jnc | phretor: so uh, use gnome |
| 10:48.39 | jnc | why not? |
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| 10:48.40 | SimonRaven | mactab? neat |
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| 10:48.47 | jnc | hah yeah |
| 10:48.56 | phretor | jnc: bleah |
| 10:48.58 | jnc | took me a month to find nameif when i was looking for that |
| 10:49.06 | SimonRaven | figures there's a conf file for MAC addresses |
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| 10:49.13 | jnc | SimonRaven: you know that /etc/network/interfaces lets you choose them by mac |
| 10:49.21 | SimonRaven | yeh that's true |
| 10:49.23 | jnc | and change the name |
| 10:49.23 | toresbe | (as offtopic as it gets) Anyone here read sheet music? |
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| 10:49.36 | SimonRaven | toresbe: i'm very rusty |
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| 10:50.07 | toresbe | SimonRaven: I'm trying to read the flight of the bumble bee here, and there's this chord here |
| 10:50.21 | SimonRaven | show me, maybe i can help |
| 10:50.30 | toresbe | SimonRaven: and it's a D, E, G#, B chord |
| 10:50.36 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 10:50.44 | toresbe | SimonRaven: I don't get it, because it sounds so very very wrong |
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| 10:51.26 | SimonRaven | that's what it has? |
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| 10:51.33 | SimonRaven | key? |
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| 10:51.44 | SimonRaven | and what scale? |
| 10:51.45 | toresbe | SimonRaven: bass, whatever that means :P |
| 10:51.51 | SimonRaven | ah, ok |
| 10:52.04 | toresbe | I'm very very weak on theory ;) |
| 10:52.13 | toresbe | I wish I had a scan of this |
| 10:52.36 | SimonRaven | i bet the g# sounds off... if i'm reading it right |
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| 10:53.19 | SimonRaven | eh, i'll see if i can find the sheet music |
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| 10:54.33 | toresbe | thanks :) |
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| 10:55.44 | Gavrila | what's that queries-flood about? |
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| 10:56.01 | pureone | Gavrila topic |
| 10:56.03 | Mage_ | Gavrila: /topic :) |
| 10:56.27 | Gavrila | lol sorry I didn't seet |
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| 10:56.54 | Gavrila | what does +E do? disable queries? |
| 10:56.56 | pureone | been going on for a while now, seems to be rather aggressive |
| 10:56.57 | MaxPower | whats a good linux irc script? |
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| 10:57.36 | Gavrila | pureone: yeah I've been unable to join #debian for a while this morning |
| 10:57.36 | pureone | Gavrila it stops unregisterd nicks pming you |
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| 10:57.55 | tweekken___ | any irc client recommendations? I have tried bitchx and xchat but they both seem to be lacking in some way |
| 10:58.02 | Gavrila | pureone: ah ok that's good, how can I see wethere it is enabled or not? |
| 10:58.19 | Gavrila | tweekken___: irssi? |
| 10:58.21 | pureone | no idea |
| 10:58.29 | Gavrila | pureone: ok thanks :) |
| 10:58.37 | MaxPower | Gavrila irssi good? |
| 10:58.55 | Gavrila | MaxPower: I think it's a matter of taste |
| 10:59.06 | priest | Is there a way to check with iptables who's the owner of the binary? with the owner module it seems like it can only check who execute the file? |
| 10:59.16 | MaxPower | Gavrila: cheers |
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| 11:01.07 | tweekken___ | lol I tried to version some people but I have not registered |
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| 11:01.31 | tweekken___ | I guess bitchx and xchat are ok |
| 11:01.37 | timgoh0 | tweekken___: irssi? |
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| 11:01.51 | tweekken___ | irssi is supposed to be good |
| 11:01.55 | tweekken___ | I must RTFM |
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| 11:02.09 | tweekken___ | thank you |
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| 11:03.52 | SimonRaven | toresbe: http://www.thetabworld.com/Classical_Music__Flight_Of_The_Bumblebee_guitar_tab.html ? |
| 11:04.42 | timgoh0 | priest: Could you clarify? Are you referring to ownership of the userland iptables app? |
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| 11:06.56 | abrotman | still going on huh? |
| 11:07.31 | SimonRaven | yup |
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| 11:07.54 | abrotman | bot! |
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| 11:10.12 | w1ng | hello |
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| 11:10.44 | w1ng | someone here who can help me out with setting up a webcam? |
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| 11:11.30 | timgoh0 | w1ng: What kind of webcam? Make? Model? Interface? |
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| 11:12.34 | nksen | heya. where may I get an example .gtkrc file? the fonts in the xmms menu look aweful |
| 11:12.53 | w1ng | timgoh0: it is a no name webcam, but that's not the problem. it works |
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| 11:13.05 | w1ng | timgoh0: the problem is the webcam-problem |
| 11:13.11 | w1ng | program, i mean |
| 11:13.21 | abrotman | the fonts in xmms have always looked terrible |
| 11:13.28 | timgoh0 | w1ng: what are you using, and what errors are you encountering? |
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| 11:13.39 | w1ng | timgoh0: it does not seem to connect to the ftp properly |
| 11:14.00 | timgoh0 | w1ng: The name of the app and the specific error message? |
| 11:14.08 | w1ng | timgoh0: one moment |
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| 11:15.19 | w1ng | timgoh0: where can i post the output of the program? |
| 11:15.26 | w1ng | it's quite long |
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| 11:15.42 | SimonRaven | @paster |
| 11:15.42 | ravenbird | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste select #debian, and paste away. |
| 11:15.50 | w1ng | thx |
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| 11:16.27 | w1ng | timgoh0: http://channels.debian.net/paste/584 |
| 11:17.15 | timgoh0 | w1ng: the app seems to be sending a cr after each letter |
| 11:17.44 | timgoh0 | w1ng: do you have a more specific name of the app. Where did you get it from? |
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| 11:17.48 | w1ng | timgoh0: it's the "webcam" app by Gerd Knorr which is delivered with xawtv (?) |
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| 11:18.13 | guyzmo | hi |
| 11:18.39 | SimonRaven | what a fucking scam, public domain sheet music, for sale... |
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| 11:18.54 | abrotman | SimonRaven: gotta pay for the printing ? |
| 11:18.58 | abrotman | or you mean for download ? |
| 11:19.03 | SimonRaven | download |
| 11:19.03 | guyzmo | where could I find news on sid's development, and when things are scheduled to be moved from sid to testing... ? |
| 11:19.06 | timgoh0 | w1ng: what do you have in .webcamrc? |
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| 11:19.31 | abrotman | guyzmo: read d-d-a or if you're really bored d-d |
| 11:19.32 | guyzmo | not that I'm not patient enough, just that I like to be aware |
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| 11:19.59 | w1ng | timgoh0: one moment |
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| 11:20.14 | SimonRaven | amke sure your sieve or procmail rules are working and put the d-d mail into a separate mailbox ;) |
| 11:20.18 | guyzmo | abrotman - expand(d-d-a);expand(d-d); ? :) |
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| 11:20.21 | SimonRaven | (it's high traffic) |
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| 11:20.30 | w1ng | timgoh0: need to relogin via ssh :) |
| 11:20.32 | SimonRaven | debian-devel-announce |
| 11:20.33 | knt | i've connected a usb storage device to my pc and mounted usbfs in /proc/bus/usb. i can see /proc/bus/usb{devices,001/001,001/002,001/003} files but now how can i mount its filesystem to a directory? |
| 11:20.34 | guyzmo | oh debian-devel |
| 11:20.41 | guyzmo | debian-devel-announce |
| 11:20.42 | guyzmo | ok :) |
| 11:20.48 | abrotman | guyzmo: mailing lists .. lists.debian.org |
| 11:20.51 | FieldySnuts | bah dan spammers |
| 11:21.00 | FieldySnuts | yeah yeah +E |
| 11:21.04 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i thought you were enjoying them |
| 11:21.07 | filip_ | in vmware when i try to strt an virtual machine i get this error http://pastebin.com/347589 |
| 11:21.07 | guyzmo | not used to abbreviations :) |
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| 11:21.15 | abrotman | guyzmo: sorry about that |
| 11:21.22 | abrotman | #vmware ? |
| 11:21.25 | SimonRaven | FieldySnuts: i had something like 49 windows open when i came back from that service call... |
| 11:21.29 | FieldySnuts | ask vmware, closed and proprietary app |
| 11:21.42 | jethro | @aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 11:21.42 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 11:21.46 | filip_ | okej |
| 11:21.48 | guyzmo | abrotman - no pb :) |
| 11:21.48 | FieldySnuts | it always says that :( |
| 11:21.51 | jethro | :[ |
| 11:21.54 | jethro | I'm sorry FieldySnuts |
| 11:21.54 | guyzmo | but vmware is not free ? :) |
| 11:21.58 | abrotman | @aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 11:21.59 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: i wouldnt take a back hander for that bush pig bloody mate |
| 11:22.01 | SimonRaven | @aussiesmite jethro |
| 11:22.02 | ravenbird | jethro: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 11:22.02 | abrotman | yay! |
| 11:22.07 | SimonRaven | o_O |
| 11:22.10 | FieldySnuts | um ok |
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| 11:22.13 | SimonRaven | @aussiesmite me |
| 11:22.13 | dingo | guyzmo: did u try xen |
| 11:22.13 | FieldySnuts | :/ |
| 11:22.14 | ravenbird | simonraven: cheerio mate |
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| 11:22.24 | SimonRaven | @aussiesmite abrotman |
| 11:22.25 | ravenbird | abrotman: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 11:22.25 | FieldySnuts | well it's working now, don't ask me... |
| 11:22.26 | guyzmo | dingo - nop |
| 11:22.28 | SimonRaven | @aussiesmite abrotman |
| 11:22.29 | FieldySnuts | !hire SimonRaven |
| 11:22.31 | guyzmo | what's xen ? |
| 11:22.32 | FieldySnuts | @hire SimonRaven |
| 11:22.34 | SimonRaven | @aussiesmite abrotman |
| 11:22.35 | ravenbird | abrotman: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
| 11:22.36 | dingo | http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstart?highlight=%28xen%29 |
| 11:22.41 | SimonRaven | wtf |
| 11:22.48 | FieldySnuts | there it goes |
| 11:22.48 | abrotman | ding: the vmware thing wasn't directed at him |
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| 11:22.50 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 11:22.53 | FieldySnuts | @aussiesmite Phated |
| 11:22.53 | ravenbird | Phated: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
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| 11:23.03 | FieldySnuts | it's like it goes random for a while, then not |
| 11:23.05 | SimonRaven | seems the randomiser is borked |
| 11:23.08 | w1ng | timgoh0: http://channels.debian.net/paste/585 |
| 11:23.13 | FieldySnuts | @hire abrotman |
| 11:23.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | i have Gnome-desktop installed, but no gdm, should i have somethjing else installed? |
| 11:23.17 | FieldySnuts | heh. |
| 11:23.20 | SimonRaven | lemme see if there's any updates to CVS |
| 11:23.23 | FieldySnuts | oh shit it said helix... |
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| 11:23.39 | abrotman | Kamping_Kaiser: apt-get install gdm |
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| 11:23.48 | FieldySnuts | it picked saying that nick, not me :P |
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| 11:23.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | so it's not part of Gnome-desktop? |
| 11:23.57 | SimonRaven | don't worry |
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| 11:24.09 | guyzmo | hm |
| 11:24.11 | SimonRaven | hmm |
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| 11:24.14 | abrotman | hmmm |
| 11:24.18 | SimonRaven | there are some... |
| 11:24.20 | guyzmo | 85.99.1.166 shall be gzline |
| 11:24.21 | guyzmo | d |
| 11:24.24 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: at least it wasn't a date? |
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| 11:24.30 | FieldySnuts | true |
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| 11:24.41 | timgoh0 | w1ng: try setting an absolute path for the FTP? Just a random thought |
| 11:24.46 | blackisha | what packages (or programs) provide the functionality for stepping cpu freq? my cpu seems to want to stay st the lowest freq for some reason.. |
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| 11:24.54 | abrotman | Kamping_Kaiser: apt-get install gnome .. that might have it |
| 11:25.01 | abrotman | !cpufreq |
| 11:25.02 | dpkg | hmm... cpufreq is a patch (http://www.brodo.de/cpufreq_old) to the 2.4.x kernels to support frequency scaling on mobile x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It has been merged into the 2.6.x series. It provides a simple interface (/proc/cpufreq) through which userspace daemons like cpudynd (in the "cpudyn" package) can throttle processor speed to save power when the system is idle. |
| 11:25.16 | w1ng | timgoh0: what do you mean with absolute path? something like /PUBLIC_HTML/webcam ? |
| 11:25.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | oh ok thanks I'll look |
| 11:25.25 | timgoh0 | w1ng: yes |
| 11:25.25 | blackisha | chrs |
| 11:25.31 | w1ng | okay |
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| 11:26.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | werid . Gnome-desktop doesnt include Gnome. thanks abrotman |
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| 11:26.16 | w1ng | timgoh0: doesn't solve the problem :( |
| 11:26.29 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 11:26.29 | dpkg | hmm... install gnome is to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-session to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 11:26.32 | abrotman | Kamping_Kaiser: ^^ |
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| 11:26.54 | timgoh0 | w1ng: Tried with other FTP servers? does it work? |
| 11:27.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | oh right :\ bizare |
| 11:27.34 | w1ng | timgoh0: i'll try... |
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| 11:27.47 | w1ng | timgoh0: gotta find one first ;) |
| 11:27.57 | timgoh0 | set up one locally? |
| 11:28.12 | w1ng | yeah |
| 11:29.40 | tweekken | ? |
| 11:29.42 | tweekken | sorry |
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| 11:30.00 | w1ng | timgoh0: no changes... argh! |
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| 11:30.39 | timgoh0 | w1ng: Try for minimal configuration in webcamrc |
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| 11:30.51 | ijurisic | Hi |
| 11:30.55 | timgoh0 | w1ng: Try the config listed here. http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm |
| 11:31.13 | w1ng | okay |
| 11:31.22 | w1ng | i will read the howto |
| 11:32.00 | ijurisic | I put DVD in PC, and try mount but I have error "isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16" |
| 11:32.08 | ijurisic | please help |
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| 11:32.20 | FieldySnuts | i don't know, put parts of that error in google perhaps |
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| 11:32.22 | jnc | ijurisic: try 'iso9660' and 'udf' filesystems |
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| 11:33.30 | ijurisic | jnc: I use iso9660, look in my /etc/fstab "/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0" |
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| 11:34.01 | jnc | try udf filesystem driver instead of iso9660 |
| 11:34.02 | FieldySnuts | ijurisic: what distro are you running? |
| 11:34.17 | ijurisic | FieldySnuts: Debian 3.1 Sarge |
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| 11:35.00 | skate | don't you want "ufs" for dvds |
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| 11:35.45 | jnc | "ufs" isn't that for BSD? |
| 11:35.50 | SimonRaven | bugger bot... |
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| 11:35.58 | jnc | SimonRaven: /topic |
| 11:36.00 | js_ | skate: you mean udf |
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| 11:36.00 | SimonRaven | udf |
| 11:36.05 | jnc | udf |
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| 11:36.10 | SimonRaven | no, *my* bot |
| 11:36.10 | skate | i've used ufs before and it worked though |
| 11:36.11 | Guerin | wdf? |
| 11:36.15 | skate | but you are probably right |
| 11:36.24 | jnc | omg |
| 11:36.28 | jnc | lol |
| 11:36.31 | FieldySnuts | ufs definately isn't for cds or dvd's |
| 11:36.42 | skate | ufs is not just for bsd |
| 11:36.42 | syntaxx | where do i put a startup program? |
| 11:36.57 | SimonRaven | syntaxx: context? |
| 11:37.14 | syntaxx | oh sorry.. i mean when i login in to my X |
| 11:37.26 | SimonRaven | .xsession |
| 11:37.34 | syntaxx | ok SimonRaven thanks |
| 11:37.38 | SimonRaven | !.xsession |
| 11:37.38 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, .xsession is : see the "xsession" entry, and/or startx(1) |
| 11:37.45 | SimonRaven | !xsession |
| 11:37.46 | dpkg | [xsession] ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
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| 11:39.39 | FieldySnuts | badgers |
| 11:39.52 | SimonRaven | boll weevils |
| 11:39.59 | FieldySnuts | aardvarks |
| 11:40.07 | SimonRaven | fartfish |
| 11:40.11 | FieldySnuts | @ff SimonRaven |
| 11:40.16 | FieldySnuts | um |
| 11:40.20 | FieldySnuts | mother shitter. |
| 11:40.29 | FieldySnuts | ~samir |
| 11:40.34 | apt | Yes, I am also not a pussy. |
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| 11:40.40 | SimonRaven | father of elderberries |
| 11:40.46 | FieldySnuts | SMELT of |
| 11:40.53 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 11:41.02 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: samir? |
| 11:41.02 | ravenbird | Mother-shitter! Son of an ass! I just- |
| 11:41.06 | FieldySnuts | there it is heh |
| 11:41.12 | blackisha | does anyone know what the serverworks kernel module does? I seem to have heaps of modules that i am not sure i need installed (& may be fucking things up, i.e. the amd74xx module on a pentium system..?) |
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| 11:41.46 | SimonRaven | hehe |
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| 11:42.54 | SimonRaven | w00t, it workie again |
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| 11:43.25 | SimonRaven | had to add this new hostmask to the bot's user db... |
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| 11:48.33 | nksen | anyone has a .gtkrc file for me? i need an example file and seem not to be able to google it |
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| 11:49.46 | Babbage | How do I get the hotplug system to automatically mount my USB disk drive when I plug it in? |
| 11:50.02 | Mage_ | nksen: apt-get install gtk-engines-geramik && vi usr/share/themes/Geramik/gtk/gtkrc |
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| 11:50.24 | SimonRaven | er, s,usr,/usr, |
| 11:50.40 | Mage_ | yep sorry |
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| 11:51.08 | nksen | Mage_: do I have to restart X to make the changes take effect? |
| 11:51.10 | timgoh0 | Babbage: Automount. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Automount.html |
| 11:51.17 | Mage_ | nksen: no |
| 11:51.25 | nksen | so it seems not to work |
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| 11:51.44 | Mage_ | you speak of /usr/share/themes/Geramik/gtk/gtkrc or .gtkrc ? |
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| 11:51.56 | SimonRaven | note that gtk and gtk2 use different gtkrc files |
| 11:52.07 | nksen | well. I primary speak of very very little fonts if I right-click on xmms for instance |
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| 11:52.25 | nksen | and I remember I avoided that with a little .gtkrc file in $HOME |
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| 11:52.28 | Mage_ | .gtkrc is gtk 1.x |
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| 11:52.35 | dawg | nksen, consider gtk-theme-switch package |
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| 11:52.44 | abrotman | hey .. there are some bots in the channel |
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| 11:52.51 | FieldySnuts | quite a few |
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| 11:53.56 | abrotman | wtf was that |
| 11:54.08 | SimonRaven | another bot |
| 11:54.14 | abrotman | that changed his nick ? |
| 11:54.17 | nsk | !pastebin |
| 11:54.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca |
| 11:54.30 | SimonRaven | yeh there's been some bots like that |
| 11:54.39 | SimonRaven | though not that one (i think) |
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| 11:55.32 | SimonRaven | nah, it was one. didn't stick around |
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| 11:55.47 | abrotman | i don't understand why they don't ban hostnames |
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| 11:55.58 | abrotman | and i don't mean #d .. i mean the staff |
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| 11:56.03 | SimonRaven | ops should be waking up now |
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| 11:56.22 | FieldySnuts | yeah right |
| 11:56.24 | abrotman | no .. i meant freenode.net. . not #d |
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| 11:56.47 | SimonRaven | would be very simple... |
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| 11:57.27 | SimonRaven | /kline some_fucking_winbloze_exploit_bot's_IP_or_hostname |
| 11:57.28 | MaxPower | hey, how can I put a varible in debian to start a program automatically when it starts up please? |
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| 11:57.34 | SimonRaven | there ya go |
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| 11:57.37 | FieldySnuts | too many of them. |
| 11:57.39 | abrotman | hehe |
| 11:57.40 | bn` | can i disable queries in xchat? |
| 11:57.49 | SimonRaven | bn`: /topic |
| 11:58.02 | SimonRaven | MaxPower: context? |
| 11:58.04 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: the hosts repeat .. |
| 11:58.16 | fantomas | Hi. Are there Xorg packages for Debian? |
| 11:58.17 | bn` | SimonRaven: thanks |
| 11:58.18 | abrotman | for a time anyways |
| 11:58.28 | abrotman | fantomas: for which debian ? |
| 11:58.28 | skate | xorg hasn't moved out of unstable yet |
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| 11:58.35 | MaxPower | SimonRaven "/opt/lampp/lampp start" |
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| 11:58.46 | SimonRaven | elif-su (n=OpterCop@203.87.200.202), meliisa_ (n=Musti@203.87.200.202) |
| 11:58.57 | abrotman | !xorg sarge |
| 11:58.57 | dpkg | somebody said xorg sarge was http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ for sarge backports of the xorg packages. Use at your own risk. |
| 11:59.19 | SimonRaven | MaxPower: stick it in /etc/init.d and read the README there, and man update-rc.d |
| 11:59.24 | fantomas | abrotman: sarge. I know they could be only in sid though |
| 11:59.34 | MaxPower | SimonRaven: Thanks Mate! :) |
| 11:59.36 | abrotman | fantomas: see what dpkg said |
| 11:59.40 | fantomas | abrotman: thanks |
| 11:59.49 | abrotman | fantomas: if the blow up .. you lose :) |
| 11:59.53 | abrotman | they blow |
| 11:59.56 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 12:00.09 | Gavrila | MaxPower: you could consider to use anacron, if you don't have to start a servic |
| 12:00.12 | Gavrila | service |
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| 12:02.20 | Babbage | gtg now, thanks for your suggestion timgoh0. |
| 12:02.33 | filip_ | where is the source.list placed? |
| 12:02.39 | abrotman | /etc/apt/ |
| 12:02.42 | SimonRaven | sources.list. /etc/apt |
| 12:02.44 | filip_ | okej |
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| 12:03.02 | onlinebacon | hi |
| 12:03.11 | onlinebacon | anyone know why the servers refuse my connection? |
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| 12:03.25 | FieldySnuts | "the servers"? |
| 12:03.29 | FieldySnuts | ~vague |
| 12:03.32 | apt | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 12:03.36 | SimonRaven | *which* servers? |
| 12:04.03 | abrotman | SimonRaven: like that's important .. jeez |
| 12:04.11 | SimonRaven | onlinebacon: Please ask questions that are Specific, Informative, Complete, Concise, and On-topic. |
| 12:04.43 | FieldySnuts | guess it doesn't matter |
| 12:04.53 | FieldySnuts | you may have confused him into silence with logic |
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| 12:04.59 | SimonRaven | hahaha |
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| 12:05.59 | FieldySnuts | so this has been going on all night and nobody bothered to set +r? neat |
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| 12:06.19 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: why bother! |
| 12:06.27 | SimonRaven | no ops are alive s/alive/awake/ ... |
| 12:06.43 | SimonRaven | amazing, innit |
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| 12:06.58 | FieldySnuts | glad somebody cares enough to add weekend ops </sarcasm> |
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| 12:07.00 | Gavrila | is there a way to check hd temp in /proc? |
| 12:07.03 | SimonRaven | (turn up your sarcasm-o-meters for that one) |
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| 12:07.07 | MikaEL` | anyone knows a subtitle maker/editor for movies in Linux ? all I have found is for Win ... |
| 12:07.08 | FieldySnuts | probably not. use hddtemp |
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| 12:07.13 | onlinebacon | sorry- the download servers, most of them refuse my connection after 6 or 7 mb |
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| 12:07.30 | Gavrila | FieldySnuts: thanks |
| 12:07.30 | FieldySnuts | blah vague |
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| 12:07.42 | SimonRaven | onlinebacon: sounds like a problem on your end. using ppp? |
| 12:07.44 | skate | dude, you can't figure out what he is talking about from that? |
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| 12:07.48 | skate | there is nothing vague about it |
| 12:07.52 | FieldySnuts | you help him then |
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| 12:07.57 | onlinebacon | nah, im using cable on windows |
| 12:08.01 | skate | onlinebacon: try a different server in sources.list |
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| 12:08.14 | skate | cable in windows? |
| 12:08.15 | skate | wtf |
| 12:08.19 | abrotman | skate: see .. you thought you knew .. and you were wrong |
| 12:08.21 | onlinebacon | im not on deb, im on windows, d/l ing deb :P cable internet |
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| 12:08.24 | abrotman | that's called VAGUE |
| 12:08.25 | SimonRaven | ok, clampmss-to-mtu theory is out the window =) |
| 12:08.25 | abrotman | :) |
| 12:08.28 | MaxPower | Gavrila: sorry i just read what u wrote, anacron? |
| 12:08.32 | skate | try a different server? |
| 12:08.34 | FieldySnuts | your moron-fu detection skills are weak, you will learn |
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| 12:08.49 | onlinebacon | i've tried most of em |
| 12:08.51 | abrotman | onlinebacon: what are you trying to download? |
| 12:08.53 | SimonRaven | try doing it from a freaking debain box... |
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| 12:08.58 | onlinebacon | the net install iso |
| 12:09.04 | SimonRaven | debian even |
| 12:09.05 | abrotman | from which URL ? |
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| 12:09.13 | onlinebacon | http://ftp.zcu.cz/ftp/pub/linux/debian-cd/images/ |
| 12:09.24 | abrotman | how about |
| 12:09.24 | onlinebacon | oops, sorry not thaT ONE |
| 12:09.35 | Gavrila | MaxPower: if you have, for example, to run a command, and not to start a service, maybe anacron is the right way to go imho |
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| 12:09.49 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 12:09.53 | SimonRaven | no opinion is humble, imo |
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| 12:10.02 | MaxPower | Gavrila, oh ok thanks, ill install that now and have a look |
| 12:10.05 | SimonRaven | ;) |
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| 12:10.24 | AjLavJo | the mode +e don't work |
| 12:10.25 | abrotman | mmm ... |
| 12:10.30 | onlinebacon | thanks, ill see how it goes, ttyl |
| 12:10.31 | abrotman | AjLavJo: why not? |
| 12:10.40 | skate | it's mode +E |
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| 12:10.43 | abrotman | AjLavJo: try /mode AjLavJo +E |
| 12:10.44 | AjLavJo | i still get the msgs |
| 12:10.56 | AjLavJo | oh |
| 12:11.00 | skate | +e does something else, not sure what |
| 12:11.07 | skate | my client has +e before i even join |
| 12:11.07 | AjLavJo | didn't know it was case sensetive |
| 12:11.10 | abrotman | !fn modes |
| 12:11.10 | dpkg | it has been said that umodes is http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 12:11.19 | jnc | !fn noobs |
| 12:11.41 | abrotman | skate: no it doesn't |
| 12:11.53 | skate | are you sure? |
| 12:11.54 | abrotman | +e (identified user)You have identified yourself to NickServ. |
| 12:11.56 | FieldySnuts | @lart skate |
| 12:11.56 | skate | i see both.... |
| 12:12.04 | SimonRaven | +e is set when you ident to nickserv. +e y ou can set yourself |
| 12:12.09 | skate | ahh |
| 12:12.11 | skate | that's why |
| 12:12.17 | SimonRaven | err, second +e is +E not +e |
| 12:12.31 | jnc | eEe! |
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| 12:13.05 | SimonRaven | EeEk! |
| 12:13.07 | jnc | \.eMe./ |
| 12:13.14 | jnc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.18 | jnc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:14.01 | jnc | SimonRaven: you wouldn't happen to like the terrible thunderlizards would ya? |
| 12:14.14 | SimonRaven | no idea what that is |
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| 12:14.18 | jnc | great |
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| 12:14.45 | abrotman | SimonRaven: how about the flesh salamander? |
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| 12:14.56 | FieldySnuts | uh? |
| 12:15.01 | jnc | ... |
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| 12:15.23 | jnc | moving on... |
| 12:15.24 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 12:15.29 | nsk | hey what are those Free messaages all over? |
| 12:15.34 | jnc | nsk: /topic |
| 12:15.34 | abrotman | nsk: /topic |
| 12:15.35 | jetscreamer | did anybody ever answer my question? |
| 12:15.41 | jnc | nsk: did we mention /topic |
| 12:15.53 | jnc | or did you just forget that /topic is there |
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| 12:16.03 | SimonRaven | @topicsmite nsk |
| 12:16.03 | ravenbird | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon nsk. And all the people marvelled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 12:16.05 | jnc | !tell abrotman about topic |
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| 12:16.13 | SimonRaven | let's add to the /topic smiting |
| 12:16.14 | mortum | hi |
| 12:16.18 | FieldySnuts | @annoy jnc |
| 12:16.19 | ravenbird | jnc: PLZ!!!!! ANSWER!!!! PLZ!!!!! |
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| 12:16.44 | jnc | @chill |
| 12:16.44 | FieldySnuts | splat |
| 12:16.45 | ravenbird | i guess chill is cool, or usually found in #huizebb |
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| 12:16.59 | jnc | wow there's a new one |
| 12:17.00 | abrotman | jnc: stop being a fucktard |
| 12:17.13 | jetscreamer | man i had 36 bot windows open last night when i looked... wtf. no don't point me at /topic, i know how to fix it.. it keeps coming unset though |
| 12:17.14 | FieldySnuts | damn weekend kids |
| 12:17.26 | FieldySnuts | user error? |
| 12:17.28 | SimonRaven | weekend geeks ;p |
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| 12:17.54 | jnc | abrotman: hey, i'll be your soldier, and that makes you Cmdr Fucktard *sigh* |
| 12:17.59 | jnc | moving on... |
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| 12:18.09 | jnc | yeah |
| 12:18.10 | WhiteRabbit | Too many freaks, not enough circuses. |
| 12:18.11 | abrotman | jnc: stop being a fucktard |
| 12:18.12 | jnc | it is the weekend |
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| 12:18.14 | jnc | i can feel it |
| 12:18.20 | FieldySnuts | thanks to you |
| 12:18.23 | SimonRaven | WhiteRabbit: hehe |
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| 12:18.46 | jetscreamer | sex! |
| 12:18.48 | SimonRaven | WhiteRabbit: hey, a workstation i manage has that as a hostname |
| 12:18.52 | jnc | jetscreamer: no, no sex |
| 12:18.54 | jnc | i hope not |
| 12:18.56 | johan | is here anyone who knows for what KNOPPIX_V4.0.1DVD-knoppix-terminalserver.patch is good for? |
| 12:19.00 | abrotman | jnc: and dont' fucking msg me .. god how stupid are you |
| 12:19.07 | SimonRaven | sk #knoppix |
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| 12:19.31 | skate | apparently very |
| 12:19.34 | WhiteRabbit | SimonRaven, The Fast rabid hare |
| 12:19.42 | abrotman | jnc: don't msg me .. don't msg anyone .. just sit there and think about what you've done |
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| 12:19.44 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 12:19.48 | skate | i put that turd on ignore a while ago |
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| 12:19.59 | FieldySnuts | i think i will too |
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| 12:20.05 | WhiteRabbit | jnc, I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. |
| 12:20.13 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 12:20.14 | johan | noone answers @ #knoppix |
| 12:20.15 | abrotman | certainly has 5 syllables |
| 12:20.19 | FieldySnuts | @they don't know |
| 12:20.19 | ravenbird | Just because the morons in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to molest US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 12:20.42 | jnc | shush shush, just trying to keep the noise out of the channel |
| 12:20.47 | FieldySnuts | VxWorks (VxWorks5.4.2) FTP server ready |
| 12:20.50 | FieldySnuts | that's one of them |
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| 12:20.53 | abrotman | !tell jnc about msg |
| 12:20.54 | SimonRaven | aha |
| 12:20.54 | skate | re-tard-a-tion only has 4 syllables |
| 12:21.10 | Phated | To-tal i-dio-cy has five. |
| 12:21.21 | abrotman | !phated++ |
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| 12:21.42 | fantomas | abrotman: is those repository of X.org debian packages an official one? I mean is that what XSF do? |
| 12:21.50 | fantomas | s/those/that |
| 12:21.55 | Phated | Wewt. |
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| 12:22.05 | FieldySnuts | damn it that hoest went away |
| 12:22.06 | abrotman | fantomas: they are unofficial and unsupported .. some guy takes the sid ones and redoes them for sarge |
| 12:22.10 | FieldySnuts | that was looking interesting too |
| 12:22.20 | fantomas | abrotman: ah, backports, I see |
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| 12:23.01 | johan | sorry, i googled a lot and knoppix is based on debian so I thougt maybe anyone knows |
| 12:23.21 | FieldySnuts | nah. we don't deal in knoppix here, sorry |
| 12:23.23 | fantomas | Can I use Xfree86 and Xorg at the same time? Don't they conflict? |
| 12:23.23 | abrotman | !based on debian |
| 12:23.23 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 12:23.34 | jnc | i think they forgot Lesbian |
| 12:23.36 | jnc | for serious |
| 12:23.37 | jetscreamer | johan: it seems self explanatory, what that is for btw |
| 12:23.46 | abrotman | fucking shit .. just kill him |
| 12:24.00 | FieldySnuts | ~fuck jnc |
| 12:24.07 | jetscreamer | johan: #kanotix > #knoppix |
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| 12:24.19 | abrotman | still not #debian :) |
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| 12:24.34 | jetscreamer | but better |
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| 12:24.52 | FieldySnuts | jnc: please don't message me |
| 12:24.58 | abrotman | holy shit .. what a moron |
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| 12:25.11 | SimonRaven | you know, /ignore works wonders |
| 12:25.28 | FieldySnuts | jnc: I JUST SAID DON'T FUCKING MESSAGE ME, FUCK YOU, YOU FUCK |
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| 12:25.49 | SimonRaven | in irssi, /ig -replies foo |
| 12:25.49 | jnc | i try to be civilized and people are screaming obscenities |
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| 12:25.53 | FieldySnuts | fer gods sake weekends bring THE biggest idiots |
| 12:26.18 | abrotman | could call ops .. but i doubt they'd do anything |
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| 12:26.33 | jnc | it's like i'm 12, and talking to other 12 year olds. except now i'm 21, and they are still 12. :/ |
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| 12:26.55 | Xenguy | FieldySnuts: oh *shut* *up* |
| 12:27.04 | WhiteRabbit | jnc, The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist. |
| 12:27.05 | Guerin | jnc: the only thing you're leaving out of this equation iss that you still have the readfing skills of a 12 year-old |
| 12:27.09 | FieldySnuts | Xenguy: lick a badger. |
| 12:27.18 | Xenguy | *plonk* |
| 12:27.24 | FieldySnuts | greycat? |
| 12:27.30 | Guerin | while it is well known i have the typing skills of a 6 year-old |
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| 12:27.56 | jnc | hey, at least you're upfront about it Guerin :) |
| 12:28.03 | psylocibe | guys |
| 12:28.10 | FieldySnuts | where? |
| 12:28.13 | psylocibe | i'm new in this channel and i'm getting spammed |
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| 12:28.18 | psylocibe | what can i do? |
| 12:28.21 | SimonRaven | psylocibe: /topic |
| 12:28.22 | abrotman | psylocibe: /topic |
| 12:28.22 | idimmu | read the topic |
| 12:28.24 | FieldySnuts | .... |
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| 12:28.27 | FieldySnuts | this is getting very old. |
| 12:28.32 | psylocibe | i did it! |
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| 12:28.38 | streuner | psylocibe: /mode psylocibe +E |
| 12:28.45 | psylocibe | i did it! |
| 12:28.46 | idimmu | can someone help me with my vnc, i cant copy or paste and |
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| 12:28.47 | idimmu | idimmu@willow:~$ vncconfig -display willow:0 |
| 12:28.48 | idimmu | No VNC extension on display willow:0 |
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| 12:28.53 | psylocibe | but i get spammed |
| 12:28.54 | abrotman | psylocibe: E .. not e |
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| 12:28.58 | jetscreamer | /umode +E |
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| 12:29.05 | SimonRaven | you're not IDed to nickserv |
| 12:29.08 | FieldySnuts | psylocibe: show us the result of /mode psylocibe |
| 12:29.23 | psylocibe | * +E |
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| 12:29.30 | SimonRaven | it would say so in /whois |
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| 12:29.35 | pureone | can someone make a script to harvest these bots ip addresses so we can ban? |
| 12:29.46 | SimonRaven | i'm logging |
| 12:29.47 | FieldySnuts | there's no need, chamode +r |
| 12:29.53 | FieldySnuts | course there are no ops that give a shit so forget it |
| 12:29.57 | abrotman | pureone: i'm sure many are on it already |
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| 12:30.02 | streuner | pureone: there are actually too many... |
| 12:30.08 | Guerin | +r was set earlier, then unset |
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| 12:30.16 | abrotman | is +J on ? |
| 12:30.16 | FieldySnuts | +r would solve this problem. |
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| 12:30.25 | SimonRaven | yes |
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| 12:30.29 | Guerin | #debian never goes +r for long, because it prevents people from getting help |
| 12:30.30 | abrotman | wow |
| 12:30.32 | SimonRaven | #debian mode JLPcflnt 454 462 |
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| 12:30.33 | pureone | streuner thats why you use a script ;) |
| 12:30.37 | fantomas | I don't understand - what those bots are trying to do? They send me empty messages, sometimes with one word: FREE. Wtf? No urls - just nothing |
| 12:30.38 | FieldySnuts | it's the same thing every weekend, some BS happens, we want help, and can't get it |
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| 12:30.41 | abrotman | Guerin: and? :) |
| 12:30.46 | FieldySnuts | need some weekend ops added, but we know that's not gonna happen |
| 12:30.50 | FieldySnuts | lame |
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| 12:32.49 | jnc | fantomas: i suppose this is to test the limits of freenode |
| 12:32.49 | abrotman | fantomas: possibly to infect win32 clients |
| 12:32.49 | SimonRaven | fantomas: sending some winbloze exploit and probably some are spam bots |
| 12:32.49 | jnc | fantomas: such ventures are for-profit these days |
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| 12:32.50 | Guerin | oh, that's it |
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| 12:32.50 | fantomas | abrotman, SimonRaven : looks like :) |
| 12:32.50 | pureone | why would they try to exploit win32 clients in a linux room? |
| 12:32.50 | Guerin | they're stress-testing the new ircd |
| 12:32.50 | abrotman | jnc: that's the dumbest thing i've heard since SimonRaven's mom thought about having another kid |
| 12:32.50 | SimonRaven | organised crime is into taking over machines for spam usage |
| 12:32.50 | pureone | :| |
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| 12:32.50 | fantomas | pureone: have no idea |
| 12:32.50 | FieldySnuts | pureone: it's not just here, many many other channels on freenode are getting it |
| 12:32.51 | FieldySnuts | #gentoo for example |
| 12:32.51 | abrotman | pureone: not everyone here is on linux clients ihere |
| 12:32.51 | jnc | abrotman: you complain about my "harassing" you via privmsg, and then continue to spam the public chan. really now, that is uncalled for |
| 12:32.51 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.51 | SimonRaven | 08:31 -lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Global Notice] Hi all. We're still experiencing message spam. This runs in cycles, and we're killing out those bots as quickly as we find them. |
| 12:32.51 | FieldySnuts | eh, we all saw it. |
| 12:32.51 | abrotman | jnc: then ignore me |
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| 12:32.51 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: please ignore the moron |
| 12:32.52 | jnc | why would i do such a thing? |
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| 12:32.52 | abrotman | jnc: i ignored your msg's .. you can ignore me in the channel |
| 12:32.53 | FieldySnuts | ~troll jnc |
| 12:32.56 | apt | ACTION hereby declares jnc a troll |
| 12:32.58 | pureone | i know i would imagine 60% to 80% of people in here use linux, i come in here using windows sometimes |
| 12:33.08 | FieldySnuts | bad idea currently |
| 12:33.14 | pureone | but really someone is more likly to expl |
| 12:33.14 | idimmu | cant everyone just hold hands and get along /o\ |
| 12:33.18 | FieldySnuts | oh wait, it's always a bad idea to hook a windows system up to any network. my mistake. |
| 12:33.18 | pureone | er |
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| 12:33.22 | SimonRaven | s/currently// |
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| 12:33.33 | Mage_ | it's incredible how .tr are lames on irc |
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| 12:33.47 | pureone | but really someome is more likly to exploit win32 systems scanning the internet |
| 12:33.53 | jnc | abrotman: bad day? |
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| 12:33.59 | SimonRaven | i'm seeing *a lot* of 85.*.*.* |
| 12:33.59 | abrotman | jnc: you're making it one :) |
| 12:34.03 | pureone | find exploitable windows systems* |
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| 12:34.14 | FieldySnuts | they're all exploitable |
| 12:34.14 | jnc | abrotman: tell me about it then |
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| 12:34.26 | antgel_ | FieldySnuts: you're not kidding. on friday we got called out to a customer who had their windows fileserver acting as their firewalll and router as well. no wonder it was fucked. |
| 12:34.32 | *** part/#debian figen (n=cakir69@85.99.145.55) |
| 12:34.34 | abrotman | jnc: it would be much easier just to think about it .. in silence |
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| 12:34.37 | SimonRaven | sure, then they send out bot nets out to various servers to send their crap... and so on |
| 12:34.56 | SimonRaven | antgel_: gawds |
| 12:34.57 | jnc | abrotman: well, i'd rather it not come to someone i am not familiar with badmouthing my name |
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| 12:35.06 | abrotman | good |
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| 12:35.48 | jnc | you know, for little or no reason other than a bad day. then to not want to talk about it. i hope you can see it my way, that i would rather be respected than to be treated poorly |
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| 12:35.56 | antgel_ | FieldySnuts: it's not the first time i've come across that. however, made it easy to recommend replacement with a shiny linux firewall. gotta love it. i might try shorewall on this one, have always used my trusty iptables script but it is the year 2005 after all |
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| 12:36.19 | jnc | not a big deal really |
| 12:36.25 | FieldySnuts | ipkungfu serves me well |
| 12:36.25 | abrotman | you keep disrespecting everyone by msg'ing them without permission .. /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 12:36.43 | antgel_ | FieldySnuts: why won't there be any weekend ops? |
| 12:36.48 | abrotman | and now done in channel too .. |
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| 12:36.50 | syntaxx | in what directory do i have to check to close the automatic script? that runs ssh and portmap |
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| 12:36.54 | jnc | is that not appropriate IRC conduct, to keep non-channel issues between two users in a privmsg |
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| 12:36.57 | pureone | i found this nice iptables script that runs with snort |
| 12:36.59 | FieldySnuts | and has the capability of egress filtering rather easily as well, which too many scripts don't have |
| 12:37.03 | antgel_ | !start a firewall war |
| 12:37.03 | dpkg | OpenBSD's pf *owns* your sorry little ipchains ass. |
| 12:37.04 | jnc | rather than to steal the channel |
| 12:37.08 | jetscreamer | syntaxx: /etc/init.d i 'think' |
| 12:37.09 | abrotman | syntaxx: apt-get remove purge ; dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
| 12:37.13 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 12:37.13 | nerdy2 | jnc: it's not appropriate irc conduct to /msg someone without their permission |
| 12:37.15 | antgel_ | little dated |
| 12:37.16 | SimonRaven | er |
| 12:37.16 | Phated | It would be nice to not have non-channel issues in the first place, no? |
| 12:37.18 | abrotman | err shit |
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| 12:37.21 | SimonRaven | a wee bit.. |
| 12:37.24 | jetscreamer | or |
| 12:37.25 | abrotman | syntaxx: apt-get remove portmap ; dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
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| 12:37.33 | syntaxx | thanks abrotman |
| 12:37.38 | jnc | nerdy2: i'm familiar with that, it's so... 1998 |
| 12:37.40 | jetscreamer | touch /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run BY THE WAY |
| 12:37.41 | Guerin | actually |
| 12:37.45 | FieldySnuts | Discovered open port 80/tcp on 81.215.253.210 |
| 12:37.51 | jnc | i just said "hello" or "hey man" |
| 12:37.52 | jetscreamer | ^^^ doesn't get set on dpkg-reconfigure when you say no |
| 12:37.53 | Guerin | dpkg-reconfigure portmap, too - tell it to listen on 127.0.0.1 |
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| 12:38.01 | FieldySnuts | Hasbani Web Server |
| 12:38.02 | Guerin | it's necessary for some things |
| 12:38.03 | FieldySnuts | heh that again |
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| 12:38.28 | jnc | Guerin: i'm doing my best to be reasonable about it |
| 12:38.29 | antgel_ | FieldySnuts: probably a conexant adsl router |
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| 12:38.51 | FieldySnuts | antgel_: i know, it's one of the zombied hosts, ran into it last night too |
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| 12:39.34 | SimonRaven | even seeing the same IPs come up... sheesh |
| 12:39.41 | SimonRaven | ...from last night |
| 12:39.43 | antgel_ | FieldySnuts: so just login to the router and turn their adsl off. allegedly. :) |
| 12:39.43 | Guerin | jnc: i wasn't talking to you |
| 12:39.55 | FieldySnuts | nah. that's going past what I consider a reasonable line |
| 12:39.57 | jnc | oh |
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| 12:40.09 | jnc | that's kind of the point |
| 12:40.15 | jnc | i did not want to involve everyone |
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| 12:40.48 | jnc | instead it has become channel spam, is that how #debian is supposed to work? |
| 12:40.48 | cahoot | jnc: could we put this to rest now? |
| 12:40.54 | jnc | well i am confused |
| 12:40.58 | jnc | you point me to the guidelines |
| 12:40.59 | FieldySnuts | take my advice and ignore jnc, he's not worth it |
| 12:41.00 | jnc | and then flame me |
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| 12:41.05 | abrotman | or everyone could put the moron on ignore |
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| 12:41.27 | jetscreamer | jnc |
| 12:41.27 | streuner | jnc: feel free to join another channel |
| 12:41.32 | jetscreamer | /msg nobody |
| 12:41.33 | dawg | jnc, yes that is how #debian works, welcome to the internet. |
| 12:41.44 | syntaxx | in what part of XF86Config do i need to check to add my xvidtune settings? |
| 12:41.54 | jetscreamer | mode |
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| 12:41.59 | FieldySnuts | just ignore him damn it |
| 12:42.00 | jnc | well, i've been in other debian themed channels and it has been pleasant |
| 12:42.00 | jetscreamer | errr i forgot |
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| 12:42.01 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 12:42.07 | FieldySnuts | you are feeding a troll |
| 12:42.16 | jnc | this is most unpleasant on the account of a few bad apples who are rude and trolling |
| 12:42.17 | dawg | jnc, go back there then! |
| 12:42.26 | jetscreamer | jnc: oh well |
| 12:42.33 | Flendor | Oh my, these spammers are Turkish :/ |
| 12:42.38 | jetscreamer | jnc: > a few |
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| 12:42.39 | abrotman | or call the ops and get him gome |
| 12:42.42 | abrotman | gone |
| 12:42.47 | FieldySnuts | gitrdone |
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| 12:43.41 | EmleyMoor | Many apps (xchat and ssh among them) seem to be resolving hostnames to 1.0.0.0 instead of the correct ID. The router here is supposed to act as a DNS proxy but something is going wrong - can anyone tell me why this happens? |
| 12:43.45 | MegaManX | Hi there fellows! I've a question. My Powersupply is going bad and I've to replace it. I've found some for a good price from Q-Tec. Thing is, they say that it's necessary to have P4. Since I've an AMD, would that matter?. Sorry if this sounds noobish :) |
| 12:43.45 | jetscreamer | the others think you're doing it on purpose... i still have my doubts... prove one of us correct |
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| 12:43.57 | jnc | i don't know, thought it might be the right thing to do to point out that there is a mild hipocracy in the way abrotman, FieldySnuts, and others supporting them - on how they are behaving in a public chan. i totally respect the manner in which greycat and simon in particular, handle situations. [/soapbox] |
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| 12:44.09 | jetscreamer | i see you seek to prove tehm right |
| 12:44.09 | abrotman | MegaManX: #hardware . and probably not |
| 12:44.28 | MegaManX | oops, sorry. Thanks abrotman :) |
| 12:44.31 | FieldySnuts | I am not ashamed to admit I am an asshole and a hipocrite. |
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| 12:44.37 | FieldySnuts | deal with it. |
| 12:44.40 | jnc | i'm okay with the behavior, i mean fine whatever you guys do to releive stress. really though, razzing me with insults is not appreciated |
| 12:44.43 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: what? .. no! |
| 12:44.53 | pngwn | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.58 | FieldySnuts | please do |
| 12:45.03 | FieldySnuts | less morons I have to deal with |
| 12:45.13 | Phated | FieldySnuts: 'hypocrite', dear. |
| 12:45.25 | jetscreamer | MegaManX: no you don't need the p4 dongle unless you have a place for it to plug in. but, i haven't found any psu's lately that don't have one. (mine just blew a big cloud of grey smoke the other day i got a new one) 550w @ 32.95 |
| 12:45.38 | Phated | Wewt. *snogs* |
| 12:45.43 | abrotman | get him killed already :) |
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| 12:45.46 | cahoot | horsing around? |
| 12:45.46 | FieldySnuts | ;D |
| 12:45.48 | antgel_ | my left alt key is buggered on this box in x. xev reports a KeyPress when i press Alt, but only a KeymapNotify when i'm holding Alt and press a number. Alt-letter reports a KeyPress. it's not debian, it's cygwin, so feel free to /ignore, but #xorg and #xygwin are dead. |
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| 12:46.03 | FieldySnuts | my problem is you are *letting* him troll you. just stop replying. |
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| 12:46.12 | jnc | antgel_: X11 stuff is governed by xmodmap |
| 12:46.13 | jetscreamer | there is a NEW added cable also |
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| 12:46.32 | jetscreamer | that i've never seen... sata? it clips onto the main plug |
| 12:46.37 | jnc | antgel_: i don't think it's related too much with loadkeys, both are worth having a look at though |
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| 12:46.53 | antgel_ | whoever answered me, thanks, and i can't see who you are as it's yellow on white - i have to fix my colours as well. :) |
| 12:47.13 | jnc | antgel_: i worked briefly on a keymap for an PDA known as the Sharp Zaurus, so i ... don't suppose responding any further will help :/ |
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| 12:48.06 | jnc | hey man, you could select the text with mouse cursel, and it would invert the selection ;) |
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| 12:48.14 | wols_ | jetscreamer: if it clips to the main atx plug it's the extended ATX spec. server mobos IIRC |
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| 12:48.17 | MegaManX | jetscreamer: Thanks mate!. Same problem here. The fan went bad on my PSU(a crappy 350W). I've replaced the fan and last week, I bought a new Geforce FX6600 AGP. The min requirements for this card is a 350W, 400W recommended. Well, I've lost the card yesterday... I can't stress enough that it was the PSU faults. It really ruined my weekend :\ |
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| 12:48.55 | jnc | jetscreamer: which 'main' plug ? |
| 12:49.07 | abrotman | MegaManX: you should stop computing outside during electical storms :) |
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| 12:49.23 | FieldySnuts | greycat: welcome to the fun. |
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| 12:49.55 | MegaManX | abrotman: LOL. I've got the money back for the card, but I really, really miss it. Now I'm here stuck with my GF4 MX :\ |
| 12:49.56 | abrotman | oh .. and while you're here ... :) |
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| 12:49.59 | syntaxx | is it under "Display" Modes "1280x1204" and remove the rest? |
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| 12:50.06 | FieldySnuts | please for gods sake set +r. |
| 12:50.07 | jetscreamer | i forget the technical name... you know, the BIG plug |
| 12:50.10 | streuner | well, i hardly believe it were fun the last serveral hours, many channel were flooded of bots... |
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| 12:50.16 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: that's not what i was referring to |
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| 12:50.41 | SimonRaven | @ops please please set chanmode +r |
| 12:50.41 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk: please please set chanmode +r |
| 12:50.45 | streuner | dondelelcaro spent the whole evening to fight against... |
| 12:50.49 | FieldySnuts | oh i second that |
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| 12:51.09 | FieldySnuts | yeah well you can fight it per-ip or just friggin +r already. |
| 12:51.29 | greycat | I think I tried +r once before, and it wasn't acceptable to the other ops |
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| 12:51.33 | FieldySnuts | lilo has sent out many notices suggesting you register and +E yourself this morning |
| 12:51.35 | abrotman | and get the troll while you're at it |
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| 12:51.57 | FieldySnuts | well that's annoying, because we are the ones that have to sit here and deal with it |
| 12:52.10 | jnc | nobody's pointing a gun to your head |
| 12:52.28 | SimonRaven | @cmd: ops (.*?) =~ s/xk/xk, gravity/ |
| 12:52.30 | jnc | it would be more convenient for regulars if the chanmode changed back to +r |
| 12:52.32 | MegaManX | OK, I will order that PSU then. Thanks for the help guys ;) |
| 12:52.56 | jnc | MegaManX: good luck to you, i know that PSU problems are a little strange to work with at first ;) |
| 12:53.02 | abrotman | gravity got ops? |
| 12:53.02 | streuner | SimonRaven: i did fix it, no idea why dpkg forgot it |
| 12:53.05 | streuner | yes |
| 12:53.08 | abrotman | yay |
| 12:53.19 | abrotman | need more! |
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| 12:53.43 | abrotman | need more |
| 12:53.55 | abrotman | i've seen them each .. once i think |
| 12:53.59 | FieldySnuts | so maybe those ops who never come around could be replaced with, say, people who are almost always here on weekends... it would help a lot, at least, that's my opinion |
| 12:54.04 | MegaManX | jnc: thanks mate!. Yeah. I have to stop build cheap crappy (as the PSU I have now). |
| 12:54.11 | resiak | abrotman for ops! |
| 12:54.14 | jetscreamer | !seen ljane |
| 12:54.14 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'ljane', jetscreamer |
| 12:54.18 | abrotman | heh |
| 12:54.19 | FieldySnuts | though every time I think of stuff like this, I almost give up the idea immediately, as it seems it's a joke to even consider it ever getting done |
| 12:54.30 | FieldySnuts | which is what i'm doing right... now. |
| 12:54.30 | jnc | MegaManX: a few extra bucks for a PSU won't hurt, it will last longer than the ATX spec |
| 12:54.31 | antgel_ | resiak: i second that |
| 12:55.07 | jnc | MegaManX: in particular, hold PSUs with your hands and weigh them. the heavier one has higher quality components most often |
| 12:55.08 | greycat | jnc: it'll probably last longer than the current C++ ABI! |
| 12:55.26 | jnc | stupid inanimate ABI |
| 12:55.33 | jnc | actually, it moves so quickly, maybe it is animate |
| 12:55.46 | jetscreamer | thing about where i bought my psu, they give a lifetime warranty on * |
| 12:55.51 | jnc | greycat: how's it going today? |
| 12:55.59 | greycat | don't know yet. it's too early. |
| 12:56.05 | jnc | right |
| 12:56.10 | SimonRaven | greycat++ |
| 12:56.16 | jnc | i'm told i *have* to go sailing today |
| 12:56.16 | FieldySnuts | greycat: jnc was trolling #debian and annoying us earlier, watch out for brown noser syndrome. |
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| 12:56.28 | MegaManX | jnc: good point. You've to see how horrible my current PSU is. You can virtually bend it because the material feels like papper. |
| 12:56.59 | MegaManX | and it's loud too... |
| 12:57.05 | FieldySnuts | you get what you pay for. enermax power supplies are nice, newer antecs are alright |
| 12:57.10 | jnc | MegaManX: time for upgrade :) |
| 12:57.13 | FieldySnuts | got a 480W antec in here or some stuff |
| 12:57.22 | MegaManX | jnc: :) |
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| 12:57.49 | FieldySnuts | cheap power supplies output dirty power too, which slowly damages everything in your system. do NOT cheap out on a power supply. |
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| 12:57.57 | jetscreamer | right |
| 12:58.04 | jetscreamer | do the research, there are sites |
| 12:58.14 | FieldySnuts | wanna cheap out on ram, fine. wanna cheap out on a cpu, fine. motherboard, fine. psu? never |
| 12:58.28 | greycat | I'd be careful on the mobo. |
| 12:58.33 | jetscreamer | max watts != avg, and when it says 550 it means max |
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| 12:58.58 | abrotman | dont cheap out on surge protector either |
| 12:58.58 | jnc | i've never had a problem with "dirty" power lowering the life of my computer, i mean desktops only last people 3-6 years y'know? maybe longer for light duty purposes |
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| 12:59.06 | MegaManX | FieldySnuts: Good point. Anybody here with a Q-Tec? Sorry for hardware questions here. #hardware feels dead. |
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| 12:59.13 | jnc | that's here in the affluent parts where i live in the USA anyhow |
| 12:59.25 | jnc | some other places on earth it may be tougher to get shipped desktop parts |
| 12:59.28 | antgel_ | MegaManX: that's because pc hardware is so zzzzzzz |
| 12:59.29 | jetscreamer | jnc you must live in watts |
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| 12:59.39 | abrotman | i've got a 486 with the original PSU ... somethings run forever :) |
| 12:59.41 | jetscreamer | or harlem |
| 12:59.43 | jnc | jetscreamer: not familiar with watts, that a city? |
| 12:59.45 | help | i want to add copy right to my program... i am distributing it with GPL.. can some one tell me.. what exactly i should add other that adding a license file along with the tarball .. should i mention a copyright notice in each program.. |
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| 12:59.53 | jetscreamer | it's like harlem |
| 12:59.54 | abrotman | see .. trolling moron |
| 12:59.55 | jnc | oh |
| 12:59.56 | jetscreamer | cept in la |
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| 13:00.04 | greycat | help: adding a single copyright line to each file certainly won't hurt. |
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| 13:00.09 | SimonRaven | COPYING = copyright notice(s) |
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| 13:00.18 | antgel_ | help: it's all on www.gnu.org in excruciatingly boring detail |
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| 13:00.19 | wols_ | abrotman: only thing I have left from my first 386 is the case+PSU. still works, still runs 24/7 :) |
| 13:00.20 | abrotman | you know .. watts riots .. |
| 13:00.22 | MegaManX | it would be great if iwe could apt-get powersupply |
| 13:00.24 | antgel_ | _so_ boring |
| 13:00.26 | abrotman | wols_: heh |
| 13:00.28 | FieldySnuts | MegaManX: haven't heard of them. that doesn't mean they are bad. my personal choices are in order 1) Istar (I-star?) (that's an eye) 2) enermax 3) antec unfortunately the first two are often quite pricey, 3 is fine |
| 13:00.29 | SplasPood | Is it possible to get debian to let you install two mail-transfer-agents ? |
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| 13:00.33 | jetscreamer | i was gonna say that abrotman :) |
| 13:00.44 | antgel_ | SplasPood: why? |
| 13:00.50 | abrotman | don't they teach basic history anymore? |
| 13:00.52 | jetscreamer | you're a leetist, so now i don't like you |
| 13:00.56 | jnc | MegaManX: you *know* that joke is getting old after.. nearly 10 years :) |
| 13:01.05 | abrotman | jetscreamer: who is? |
| 13:01.10 | MegaManX | lol |
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| 13:01.18 | SplasPood | antgel: I have a machine that needs to run postifx for long term queuing and exim as the "frontend" |
| 13:01.18 | greycat | SplasPood: only if you rebuild one of them so that it doesn't provide mail-transport-agent |
| 13:01.25 | SplasPood | greycat: gotcha |
| 13:01.25 | greycat | SplasPood: or use a chroot |
| 13:01.35 | abrotman | or install one while ignoring depends |
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| 13:01.45 | jetscreamer | our new ignore buddy abrotman... mr jnc |
| 13:01.47 | SimonRaven | chroot |
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| 13:01.51 | SplasPood | well I want something that won't automatically uninstall next time I do an apt-get |
| 13:02.08 | greycat | the chroot sounds like the best answer here |
| 13:02.09 | SimonRaven | or 2nd box... |
| 13:02.14 | MegaManX | Thanks FieldySnuts. jnc recommended me another one too. I will look after manufactures, ratter then price then ;) |
| 13:02.19 | antgel_ | SplasPood: the kind of wacky setups some people need never ceases to amaze me |
| 13:02.20 | jnc | chroot is straightforward enough |
| 13:02.30 | jnc | i've done it for 32-bit runtime access on an amd64 box |
| 13:02.35 | MegaManX | So much spam on IRC. It was used to be good :\ |
| 13:02.37 | SimonRaven | ffs, fucking cron |
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| 13:02.44 | jnc | takes about 20 minutes to get started, AFAIK |
| 13:02.52 | SplasPood | antgel: exim is not designed to handle a large queue... it makes a great frontend tho... I don't think my need is all that wacky |
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| 13:03.33 | greycat | I'd think that postfix should be capable of doing anything exim can. |
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| 13:03.41 | SimonRaven | maybe it's time to switch from vixie cron... this one has a hard time keeping a conn. open to the ldap servers... |
| 13:03.52 | greycat | most people that use a 2-deep incoming MTA have Microsoft Exchange as the second layer |
| 13:03.59 | SplasPood | greycat: Actually it can't without add-on packages |
| 13:04.00 | SimonRaven | ugh |
| 13:04.18 | MegaManX | greycat: Do you also use Greycat Linux or is it just coincidence. I use GCL 3 on a 486 machine :) |
| 13:04.23 | greycat | coincidence |
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| 13:04.28 | antgel_ | SplasPood: don't know where you get the first point from. whatever floats your boat. mail is hardly processor-intensive and the current crop of mtas are boringly efficient and powerful |
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| 13:04.35 | MegaManX | cool |
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| 13:05.08 | jnc | SplasPood: how much (volume) mail are you going to be expecting? |
| 13:05.08 | SplasPood | antgel: Go read the documentation for exim. Exim was designed to handle deliveries immediatly. It does not handle a large queue very well. And it's reccomended you have fallback servers for that purpose in a large installation. |
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| 13:05.14 | SplasPood | I can provide you links if you insist... |
| 13:05.24 | MegaManX | wow, antec PSU are way expensive. Looks great though :) |
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| 13:05.36 | antgel_ | SplasPood: it's okay, i've read the exim docs and have no desire to do so again. <shudder> |
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| 13:05.45 | SimonRaven | many many pages |
| 13:05.47 | FieldySnuts | they're worth it |
| 13:05.48 | yang | Anyone using ICEwm in debian? |
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| 13:05.56 | jnc | yang: i have |
| 13:05.57 | greycat | FieldySnuts: switching to qmail was "worth it", for me ;-) |
| 13:06.00 | SplasPood | yea, many pages, much power... |
| 13:06.03 | FieldySnuts | you must like pain |
| 13:06.08 | SimonRaven | indeed |
| 13:06.10 | FieldySnuts | ~djbsmite greycat |
| 13:06.13 | yang | jnc: and it wortks for you? Becouse mine freezes randomly |
| 13:06.13 | SplasPood | I used to run qmail |
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| 13:06.21 | SimonRaven | i've used exim for years now |
| 13:06.22 | SplasPood | back when it was actually updated and most everything else sucked |
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| 13:06.43 | blackish | anyone else getting heaps of spam? is there a way to stop? |
| 13:06.48 | jnc | yang: i'm using icewm on a debian sarge box, Pentium II mobile laptop hardware. it appears to work without noticible episodes of failure |
| 13:06.50 | SimonRaven | /topic |
| 13:06.52 | streuner | blacke: /topic |
| 13:06.53 | yang | blackish: /mode user +E |
| 13:06.59 | streuner | blackish: /topic |
| 13:07.21 | MegaManX | FieldySnuts: jnc. can I post a link here? For the PSU I've in mind? |
| 13:07.27 | blackish | thx |
| 13:07.34 | FieldySnuts | fine with me |
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| 13:07.39 | jnc | i don't want to be in the same line of text as that F* guy |
| 13:07.40 | MegaManX | http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=31056 |
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| 13:07.50 | yang | jnc: I cant use it, but fluxbox works fine for me, ICEwm freezes |
| 13:08.02 | blackish | *sigh* my laptop is running at 172Mhz for some reason & I can't get speedstep working :( |
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| 13:08.11 | FieldySnuts | sounds like overkill, but i don't know q-tech and can't comment |
| 13:08.14 | jnc | yang: eh. that might be the answer. the other one i'd suggest is wmaker (WindowMaker) which some people like |
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| 13:08.19 | abrotman | blackish: you're saving power! :) |
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| 13:08.43 | jnc | i've used WindowMaker and find it particularly functional. IceWM is perhaps the best IMO balance of function and low resource usage |
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| 13:08.48 | greycat | theory: anyone with 3 or more ^s in their nick is getting a userlist and then feeding it to the spambots |
| 13:08.50 | fearistic | hallo! |
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| 13:09.03 | SimonRaven | ah |
| 13:09.04 | MegaManX | FieldySnuts: thanks. Maybe I should get a 500W instead of a little more know manufacture? |
| 13:09.06 | greycat | of course they'll probably change their name-scraper nicks now. |
| 13:09.24 | streuner | greycat: bah |
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| 13:09.34 | FieldySnuts | 500W is overkill for most, so is 400W |
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| 13:10.07 | jnc | MegaManX: look for something with Active PFC (power factor correction) |
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| 13:10.10 | streuner | what would happen if we ban the whole 85.x.x.x? |
| 13:10.23 | fearistic | früher hatte ich kanotix, nun debian 3.1. bei kanotix konnte ich mit smbconf-kanotix samba ganz leicht konfigurieren, so dass ich nur noch freigaben einstellen musste. weiß jemand wie ich das jetzt bei debian hinbekomme? ich habe samba, samba-common,SWAT und Smb4K installiert als .deb Packete. |
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| 13:10.30 | abrotman | !de |
| 13:10.30 | dpkg | well, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 13:10.32 | greycat | !kanotix |
| 13:10.32 | dpkg | i heard kanotix is not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) |
| 13:10.34 | FieldySnuts | just +r already. |
| 13:10.36 | abrotman | oh |
| 13:10.36 | jnc | i don't know quite what it is but that will make a lower-rated PSU (pure wattage, example 330W) be more reliable than a 500W cheap PSU |
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| 13:10.46 | stumbles | hello, i've just installed sarge, but grub stops after the "please wait...". I can boot it if i wait for grub to timeout and type root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda2 initrd /initrd.img boot. Why would it work here and not when it's in menu.lst? |
| 13:10.51 | fearistic | thanks dokg |
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| 13:10.55 | abrotman | greycat: do aysu too! |
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| 13:11.11 | antgel_ | stumbles: probably a difference in menu.lst that you missed |
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| 13:11.32 | stumbles | antgel: it came straight from the installer tho |
| 13:11.33 | MegaManX | jnc: Thanks. I will look into it. Just a bit worried if the connectors will fit on my motherboard. Every PSU on that site mention Pentium 4, but not AMD :\ |
| 13:11.41 | amorphix | does anyone know where i can get a free / safe proxy server? |
| 13:11.42 | tjostolf | When I do ls /dev/hdc, hdc- is returned instead of /dev/hdc! What is that? |
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| 13:11.51 | abrotman | MegaManX: you should be fine |
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| 13:11.59 | greycat | tjostolf: "type -a ls" |
| 13:12.00 | jnc | MegaManX: the manufacturer i mentioned supports both |
| 13:12.04 | streuner | someone made in #fedora a list of all bots, i count 84 and that was about 2 hours after they started the attac.... |
| 13:12.08 | abrotman | MegaManX: i've put AMD64 boards in cases that were P4 only |
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| 13:12.10 | amorphix | _GEN-K = onjoin spam |
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| 13:12.17 | jnc | gotta run, i'm scheduled for a day of sailing. what a drag, y'know? (joking) |
| 13:12.19 | abrotman | amorphix: /topic |
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| 13:12.32 | amorphix | thanks abrotman |
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| 13:12.41 | FieldySnuts | ot: any suggestions for a pci (64 bit if possible) card with both usb 2.0 and firewire on it? I only need 2 ports of each. |
| 13:12.47 | tjostolf | greycat: ? |
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| 13:13.04 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: adaptec sells such things? |
| 13:13.07 | FieldySnuts | i try to avoid such things, however I have one pci slot free, and keep having to swap out my usb and firewire card |
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| 13:13.17 | MegaManX | abrotman: cool!. Well, I'm quite new to hardware. This is my first PC that I put together, but I as long as it fits easy as Lego I'm up for the challenge. If we need to cut or sold stuff, then I won't try :) |
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| 13:13.19 | FieldySnuts | yes but they almost always only work in windows, adtaptec has gone the lame win-hardware route |
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| 13:14.04 | amorphix | does anyone know where i can get a free / safe proxy server? |
| 13:14.09 | abrotman | squid ? |
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| 13:14.26 | asg | abrotman: fried with lemon juice |
| 13:14.28 | amorphix | not an actual server, just an ip/service i can use in my browser |
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| 13:14.44 | monster | you must search at your lkocation |
| 13:14.48 | abrotman | asg: mmm ... and a nice wheat! |
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| 13:14.50 | monster | location |
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| 13:14.51 | amorphix | whats that mean? |
| 13:15.00 | asg | abrotman: yes |
| 13:15.01 | amorphix | location? |
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| 13:15.06 | tjostolf | greycat: if I type ls /dev/hda, i get /dev/hda |
| 13:15.13 | monster | maube your ISP has it? |
| 13:15.13 | FieldySnuts | ya think? |
| 13:15.15 | greycat | tjostolf: /bin/ls -ld /dev/hdc |
| 13:15.17 | abrotman | asg: who cares if it's only 930 :) |
| 13:15.22 | amorphix | monster: i cannot find it listed :-( |
| 13:15.27 | asg | abrotman: I sure don't |
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| 13:15.51 | tjostolf | greycat: That returns /bin/ls -ld /dev/hdc alright |
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| 13:16.12 | greycat | tjostolf: type -a ls |
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| 13:16.15 | amorphix | is it very foolish to use a public proxy server to access sites where you login? |
| 13:16.38 | FieldySnuts | if you want anonymiatnfty (i can't spell that) consider tor. though it is slow. |
| 13:16.40 | asg | amorphix: if you don't trust it, don't use it. |
| 13:16.42 | amorphix | (on a scale of 1 to 10 of foolishness) |
| 13:16.44 | greycat | amorphix: why the fuck would you want to use a public proxy? |
| 13:17.01 | tjostolf | greycat: ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto' |
| 13:17.02 | FieldySnuts | pry because he's a script or warez kiddie |
| 13:17.07 | amorphix | greycat: well my friend needs one and their ISP doesnt seem to provide one, if they do its not published anywhere |
| 13:17.14 | tjostolf | greycat: ls is /bin/ls |
| 13:17.15 | MegaManX | jnc: I've found a PSU where it stands "Complies to latest PFC power distortion standards". It's a 500W one. Now here is the question: Running anything less then 400W would not be good for the graphics card (which recommends a 400W). Is there any bad thing in using a PSU which is actually _way_ more then you need. Let's say, if I get a 650W one? |
| 13:17.17 | abrotman | why does someone *need* a proxy |
| 13:17.20 | greycat | amorphix: he needs one... why? |
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| 13:17.32 | FieldySnuts | i have one local, not because I need it, because i just feel like it |
| 13:17.32 | abrotman | MegaManX: not a single thing |
| 13:17.32 | amorphix | because their ISP seems to have blacklisted my IP address |
| 13:17.38 | amorphix | and they cannot login to my server |
| 13:17.49 | FieldySnuts | ah. so to get around administratively placed blocks. i don't think we should help you with that. |
| 13:17.51 | greycat | amorphix: is your "friend" running linux 2.6.8 or higher? |
| 13:17.52 | abrotman | amorphix: stop serving phishing sites |
| 13:18.00 | FieldySnuts | HEH |
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| 13:18.04 | amorphix | seriously, im not |
| 13:18.14 | amorphix | i have no idea why they've blocked my IP address |
| 13:18.15 | wols_ | MegaManX: yes. it's less efficient. also, you could easily use a good quality PSU which has only 350-400W |
| 13:18.16 | abrotman | why don't you contact his ISP |
| 13:18.18 | greycat | !window scaling |
| 13:18.18 | dpkg | from memory, window scaling is http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/ -> if you're having problems connecting to some sites with Linux kernels later than 2.6.7, read this. |
| 13:18.18 | FieldySnuts | @hack amorphix |
| 13:18.22 | FieldySnuts | er. |
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| 13:18.33 | wols_ | FieldySnuts: now that hurts |
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| 13:18.44 | FieldySnuts | ~hack amorph |
| 13:18.47 | apt | ACTION 0WnZ amorph and steals all of the p0rn on the hard drive. |
| 13:18.47 | MegaManX | abrotman: thanks again. I was just worried it should be less efficient. |
| 13:18.47 | FieldySnuts | fuck |
| 13:18.54 | amorphix | sheesh |
| 13:19.01 | MegaManX | oops, after wols_ post, I'm confused :) |
| 13:19.03 | amorphix | :-( |
| 13:19.07 | abrotman | MegaManX: there's really noting wrong with it .. just a bit of wasted money |
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| 13:19.27 | amorphix | greycat: my friend is running Windows XP |
| 13:19.33 | FieldySnuts | his loss |
| 13:19.34 | monster | amorphix: The best for you http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyonder/getContent.jspx?page=h_the_internet_server |
| 13:19.39 | abrotman | MegaManX: wols_ is saying it's overkill .. and more than you need .. as long as you don't mind the waste .. nothing wrong |
| 13:19.47 | wols_ | MegaManX: it means a shitty quality PSU will be shit even if it has 600W printed on it. any good PSU (PCP8C or Antec) will own it |
| 13:19.47 | amorphix | monster: thank you |
| 13:20.10 | wols_ | even if the good PSU is only rated for 350W |
| 13:20.13 | FieldySnuts | antec indeed |
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| 13:20.28 | abrotman | MegaManX: if you run your PSU within like .. 85% of the limit .. it will kill it quicker |
| 13:20.30 | FieldySnuts | only ever had one go bad, and to be fair i was using it outside of its specs |
| 13:20.33 | monster | as you are connected trough blueyonder calbe using ubr04 :) |
| 13:20.34 | greycat | save: /mode #debian +b *!*@85.101.29.26 |
| 13:20.36 | amorphix | monster: my friend is not using Blueyonder tho so will not be able to use their proxy server? |
| 13:20.36 | wols_ | FieldySnuts: unfortunately antec is way too expensive in europe |
| 13:20.38 | greycat | amorphix: is your friend in China? |
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| 13:20.44 | amorphix | greycat: France |
| 13:20.49 | MegaManX | thanks wols_ Hmmm, back to square one: Price/performance/Quality |
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| 13:20.56 | FieldySnuts | losing your hardware to a bad psu is a hell of a lot more expensive. |
| 13:20.59 | FieldySnuts | your call. |
| 13:21.02 | monster | probably he'll be able to use it |
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| 13:21.11 | abrotman | MegaManX: if your card says 400W .. get a 400 or 450 depending on other parts inside |
| 13:21.14 | monster | but it won't be so fast as for you |
| 13:21.18 | amorphix | greycat: my friend has a trojan on their system i discovered last night, so it could be that which is doing DoS, its known to |
| 13:21.23 | MegaManX | FieldySnuts: true. I've just lost my graphics because of that :\ |
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| 13:21.34 | abrotman | MegaManX: and a 500W if you don't care about money .. but make sure whatever you buy is of good quality |
| 13:21.36 | FieldySnuts | yeah I lost 2 120GB disks and an ide controller to one |
| 13:21.39 | curie | hello |
| 13:21.40 | antgel_ | MegaManX: what's your time worth? in the time you've spent pondering this you could have gotten the better psu |
| 13:21.42 | wols_ | MegaManX: stay away from "generic" stuff, levicom, etc. buy a good brand. then buy around the rated wattage of 350-400 |
| 13:21.43 | curie | hello |
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| 13:21.53 | greycat | amorphix: if your friend boots up a knoppix CD, can he reach your site? |
| 13:21.56 | amorphix | greycat: however i cannot ping my friends ISP or access any of their websites, so that makes me think I'm blacklisted |
| 13:22.08 | FieldySnuts | think. assumptions. why don't you call and find out. |
| 13:22.12 | streuner | inetnum: 85.103.0.0 - 85.103.127.255 |
| 13:22.13 | streuner | netname: TurkTelekom |
| 13:22.21 | amorphix | greycat: im not sure, i havent been able to do that as my friend isnt a Linux user and isnt very computer saavy |
| 13:22.24 | amorphix | :-/ |
| 13:22.26 | greycat | fucking turkey. |
| 13:22.27 | curie | hello |
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| 13:22.34 | FieldySnuts | that network has been a problem for a long time |
| 13:22.41 | abrotman | greycat: chicken? |
| 13:22.44 | FieldySnuts | too bad you can't use CIDR on bans |
| 13:22.47 | monster | anybody knows what to do with bots advertising sex videos on new window in my irc klient? |
| 13:22.55 | greycat | monster: /topic |
| 13:22.56 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:23.08 | wols_ | MegaManX: only reason for those big CPUs are either serious OCing with big voltage increases (watercooling mandatory) or SMP systems/fileserves |
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| 13:23.17 | amorphix | streuner: where did you find that? |
| 13:23.21 | madclicker | ahoy, which package is bettr to use for pppoe in Sarge? (rp-pppoe or debians ppp package?) |
| 13:23.23 | monster | many thanks |
| 13:23.30 | FieldySnuts | most people don't need over 400W, the only reason I do is because I run SMP, a lot of disks and the board won't even turn on without 400W minimum |
| 13:23.33 | curie | hello |
| 13:23.36 | wols_ | madclicker: you need both |
| 13:23.43 | streuner | amorphix: i.e. /whois 85.103.33.33 |
| 13:23.44 | FieldySnuts | get the damn antec and shut up. |
| 13:23.46 | monster | curie: hello |
| 13:23.46 | wols_ | at least if you use rp-pppoe |
| 13:23.58 | FieldySnuts | losing your hardware to a lame PSU is way more expensive. and with that i'm done |
| 13:24.10 | curie | hello |
| 13:24.16 | amorphix | streuner: sorry, this isnt related to my problem re access between my friends ISP and my server is it? |
| 13:24.17 | wols_ | madclicker: by default, kernel pppoe is used |
| 13:24.24 | curie | hello |
| 13:24.37 | abrotman | it doesn't |
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| 13:24.41 | curie | hello |
| 13:24.43 | FieldySnuts | good. then he needs to shut up. |
| 13:24.50 | streuner | amorphix: no |
| 13:24.53 | amorphix | sheesh |
| 13:24.53 | wols_ | curie: either say what you want or stfu |
| 13:24.59 | SplasPood | fieldy: the number of supplies I've burnt from overusage... |
| 13:25.03 | amorphix | FieldySnuts: charming |
| 13:25.05 | curie | hello |
| 13:25.08 | spoof | hi, i can't build the cairogears on debian sid , /usr/include/ft2build.h:56:38: error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory |
| 13:25.16 | FieldySnuts | amorphix: ask anyone here, this is me in a good mood. |
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| 13:25.25 | amorphix | ok |
| 13:25.26 | Phated | She's right. |
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| 13:25.33 | madclicker | wols_: i agree, but the default package provides no logs and sometimes , even if set to persistant, it wont reconnect |
| 13:25.35 | antgel_ | !tell spoof about unstable |
| 13:25.36 | amorphix | time of the month? |
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| 13:25.40 | FieldySnuts | um. die. |
| 13:25.45 | amorphix | heh |
| 13:25.46 | Phated | Unfairly spoken. Die. |
| 13:25.46 | curie | hello |
| 13:25.51 | FieldySnuts | asshat. |
| 13:25.54 | nkuttler | !tell curie about ask |
| 13:26.07 | wols_ | madclicker:it provides logs if you tell it to. mine basically spams syslog. and that's a very old problem with the persistence |
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| 13:26.13 | curie | hello |
| 13:26.17 | FieldySnuts | curie: shut up. |
| 13:26.20 | wols_ | madclicker: use a cronjob. sucks, but it's the best thing to do |
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| 13:26.41 | curie | hello |
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| 13:26.45 | madclicker | wols_: how can i configure to log to syslog? |
| 13:26.50 | abrotman | oh fs |
| 13:26.53 | FieldySnuts | ~irritate curie |
| 13:26.54 | apt | curie: HELP ME!!! how can I make my libranet werkz !!!! |
| 13:26.55 | abrotman | curie: WHAT DO YOU WANT! |
| 13:26.56 | EmleyMoor | Why is there so much spam on this network at present? |
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| 13:27.03 | FieldySnuts | EmleyMoor: kiddies |
| 13:27.09 | asg | EmleyMoor: the morons have regrouped |
| 13:27.11 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: /topic |
| 13:27.13 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.20 | curie | hello |
| 13:27.24 | FieldySnuts | hi. |
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| 13:27.29 | nkuttler | no mods here? |
| 13:27.37 | FieldySnuts | mods? what is this. counterstrike? |
| 13:27.38 | abrotman | for what? |
| 13:27.43 | abrotman | moderator |
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| 13:27.53 | streuner | nkuttler: why? |
| 13:27.55 | FieldySnuts | thanks. |
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| 13:28.11 | Guerin | greycat: word |
| 13:28.14 | wols_ | madclicker: man pppd |grep log |
| 13:28.16 | Guerin | greycat: drop the last quad |
| 13:28.19 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: sentance |
| 13:28.19 | EmleyMoor | What does the mode +E actually mean? |
| 13:28.21 | greycat | Guerin: the word is "fuck" |
| 13:28.22 | wols_ | madclicker: LOTS of options there depending what you want |
| 13:28.24 | madclicker | wols_: how would a cron job look for this demon? |
| 13:28.24 | Guerin | FieldySnuts: sentence |
| 13:28.25 | nkuttler | streuner: already done, thanks |
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| 13:28.30 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: :( |
| 13:28.35 | streuner | EmleyMoor: only identifed users can /msg you |
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| 13:28.48 | mmiikkee12 | EmleyMoor: means you can't get /msgs from non-registered users |
| 13:28.49 | EmleyMoor | Ah - wonderful idea |
| 13:29.01 | FieldySnuts | ffs, can we change the topic not to say umode (not all clients have it) to "/mode yournick +E (prevents unidentified users from msg you) |
| 13:29.02 | FieldySnuts | " |
| 13:29.09 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: it does say /mode |
| 13:29.16 | FieldySnuts | oh! |
| 13:29.17 | wols_ | madclicker: you have to write your own script. "pidof pppd" will give out a PID if pppd runs, or an empty line otherwise |
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| 13:29.22 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: /topic!! |
| 13:29.23 | abrotman | :) |
| 13:29.23 | wols_ | so if line is empty, you restart it |
| 13:29.31 | FieldySnuts | ~topicbadger abrotman |
| 13:29.37 | FieldySnuts | bleh |
| 13:29.38 | abrotman | !topicfsck FieldySnuts |
| 13:29.43 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: they took that from me! |
| 13:29.53 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: topicbadger abrotman |
| 13:29.54 | ravenbird | i don't know, FieldySnuts |
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| 13:29.56 | FieldySnuts | asdfasdf |
| 13:29.58 | help | how do i mean a exe file using gcc in linux.. i mean how do i cross compile and get a exe file in windoes.. say for a hello world c program.. can some one tell me the compilation options.. i am not able to extract from man gcc.. rather it has too much for me to filter |
| 13:30.07 | ricky_clarkson | How could I start irssi in screen on startup? |
| 13:30.16 | greycat | help: ask ##c |
| 13:30.19 | wols_ | help: look for the ming crosscompiler. debian has it |
| 13:30.19 | ricky_clarkson | s/startup/boot/ |
| 13:30.20 | madclicker | wols_: thank you |
| 13:30.31 | Phated | !topicbadger FieldySnuts |
| 13:30.33 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that FieldySnuts didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 13:30.39 | streuner | nkuttler: the attac started at 23:00 yesterday... |
| 13:30.40 | greycat | phated! |
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| 13:30.44 | help | wols_: is ming there in linux ? |
| 13:30.50 | greycat | 09:30 wols_> help: look for the ming crosscompiler. debian has it |
| 13:30.52 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: "screen -t irc 5 irssi-text" |
| 13:30.57 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: e.g. |
| 13:30.58 | abrotman | streuner: utc? 5pm est |
| 13:31.02 | SimonRaven | ~/.screenrc |
| 13:31.05 | wols_ | help: yes. apt-cache search ming. it's a crosscompiler, produces exe files |
| 13:31.16 | Phated | greycat! |
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| 13:31.19 | websdale | I've just been spammed twice |
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| 13:31.31 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: How would that happen on boot? |
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| 13:31.34 | streuner | nkuttler: most channel set the channel-mode so that only identified user can even join the channel... |
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| 13:31.38 | nkuttler | streuner: good i had other things to do... |
| 13:31.39 | wols_ | help: "apt-cache search mingw" rather |
| 13:31.42 | nkuttler | oh? |
| 13:31.45 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: topicbadger Phated |
| 13:31.46 | ravenbird | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that Phated didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 13:31.56 | greycat | websdale: /topic |
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| 13:32.04 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: oh on boot? run it in a crontab, like @reboot whatever |
| 13:32.04 | Phated | Whee! |
| 13:32.06 | greycat | wols_: apt-cache search --names-only ming |
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| 13:32.17 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 13:32.23 | wols_ | greycat: I always use |grep ming in that case |
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| 13:32.29 | websdale | greycat:I see |
| 13:32.34 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: Oh, I didn't know there was an @reboot |
| 13:32.34 | streuner | nkuttler: i don't know the situation actually, if they changed it or not |
| 13:32.37 | tuomas_ | websdale the words "i've" and "spammed" in the same senvence usually lead in lynching if you say them in the real world surrounded with people who use computers frequently |
| 13:32.38 | wols_ | life's too short to memorize all command line parameters if you have pipes :) |
| 13:32.39 | tuomas_ | =D |
| 13:32.42 | greycat | ok, here's a stupid debian question: griffon:~$ apt-cache search --names-only ming |
| 13:32.45 | greycat | apache-common - support files for all Apache webservers |
| 13:32.48 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: it's a gnu-ism |
| 13:32.52 | greycat | which part of "apache-common" has "ming" in it? |
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| 13:33.03 | Guerin | hah |
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| 13:33.07 | tuomas_ | non has ming... |
| 13:33.09 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: Why do I need the -t? |
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| 13:33.12 | wols_ | greycat: ask they wizards of PCRE perhaps? |
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| 13:33.20 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: sets the title |
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| 13:33.38 | SimonRaven | man screen |
| 13:33.43 | asg | greycat: subtle Flash Gordon infiltration? |
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| 13:33.45 | tuomas_ | you have to build it yourself.... and nobody really supports ming when there are all these svg glimmers by the w3c available |
| 13:33.51 | ricky_clarkson | I see that, but I don't normally use that. Is there some reason to? |
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| 13:33.54 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: ^^ |
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| 13:34.26 | wols_ | tuomas_: huh? |
| 13:34.27 | antgel_ | greycat: it's matching the ming in Replaces:, Provides: and Conflicts: (libapache-mod-roaming) |
| 13:34.27 | FieldySnuts | 81.213.128.0/17 ... cidr bans would be nice |
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| 13:34.36 | abrotman | asg: Flesh Gordon ? |
| 13:34.41 | FieldySnuts | um. |
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| 13:34.47 | asg | abrotman: that was a good one |
| 13:34.49 | SplasPood | I saw some lame porno called Flesh Gordon once |
| 13:34.49 | ricky_clarkson | antgel_: [^a-z-]ming |
| 13:34.50 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.50 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.52 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: you can leave it off if you like |
| 13:34.59 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: And what's the 5 for? |
| 13:35.03 | abrotman | asg: have you seen it? .. i got it as a gift for a friend who is into comics |
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| 13:35.14 | asg | abrotman: saw it a long time ago at a party |
| 13:35.18 | abrotman | heh |
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| 13:35.20 | wechlol | hoi |
| 13:35.21 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: sets which screen window it starts in |
| 13:35.26 | wechlol | german here ? |
| 13:35.28 | wechlol | -.- |
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| 13:35.30 | resiak | !de |
| 13:35.30 | wols_ | yes |
| 13:35.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 13:35.31 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: I can leave that off too? |
| 13:35.32 | antgel_ | i was sure that sexy_girl was a spambot |
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| 13:35.43 | SimonRaven | ricky_clarkson: not sure now |
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| 13:35.49 | wechlol | which channel is german ? |
| 13:35.51 | resiak | !de |
| 13:35.52 | greycat | (53-74/628) Is the bug you found listed above [y|N|m|r|q|s|f|?]? |
| 13:35.52 | dpkg | i heard de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
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| 13:36.00 | tuomas_ | lol most sexy girls are bots, especially in Germany |
| 13:36.06 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 13:36.06 | ricky_clarkson | wechlol: #debian.de - sheissekopf. |
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| 13:36.12 | greycat | what the FUCK... how is a human being supposed to read and process 628 bug descriptions to see if the one he's thinking of filing is already filed?? |
| 13:36.24 | abrotman | resiak: 3 |
| 13:36.28 | FieldySnuts | guten tag? |
| 13:36.29 | Phated | greycat: Grep? :) |
| 13:36.30 | resiak | abrotman: Yay. |
| 13:36.31 | wechlol | thx |
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| 13:36.36 | antgel_ | greycat: slowly |
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| 13:36.47 | abrotman | out loud? |
| 13:36.55 | wechlol | here is porno chan ? why the users query me with porncams ? -.- |
| 13:36.55 | antgel_ | heh |
| 13:37.03 | greycat | wechlol: /topic |
| 13:37.04 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Are those ALL open bugs? |
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| 13:37.17 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: that's JUST the normal bugs - outstanding. |
| 13:37.19 | chealer | greycat: you obviously aren't filing a wnpp bug :) |
| 13:37.21 | FieldySnuts | #debian-porn |
| 13:37.22 | streuner | wechlol: spambot attac (join and leave) |
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| 13:37.30 | malthusian | complete debian n00b here. Freash first time install, have problems |
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| 13:37.34 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Sounds like you should use different software. ;) |
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| 13:37.54 | SimonRaven | ok, that's it, +E for me |
| 13:38.01 | antgel_ | !tell malthusian about reference |
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| 13:38.14 | greycat | no, it's all bugs. not just normal. |
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| 13:38.20 | greycat | reportbug's UI is a bit confused. |
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| 13:38.21 | SimonRaven | bastards spam me every time i say something |
| 13:38.23 | wols_ | greycat: which package? |
| 13:38.26 | greycat | wols_: apt |
| 13:38.31 | abrotman | SimonRaven: hint hint |
| 13:38.33 | abrotman | :) |
| 13:38.34 | antgel_ | SimonRaven: took you long enough |
| 13:38.43 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Might be better to search on b.d.o. |
| 13:38.44 | SimonRaven | abrotman: ,.|.. ;p |
| 13:38.58 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:38.58 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: did. |
| 13:39.02 | SimonRaven | *grin* |
| 13:39.05 | ricky_clarkson | !beer greycat |
| 13:39.12 | ricky_clarkson | !better beer greycat |
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| 13:39.16 | ricky_clarkson | Hmm. |
| 13:39.28 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 13:39.37 | SimonRaven | antgel_: well, for the longest time i wasn't being spammed, now i get the crap in fucking colour with blinky red on black |
| 13:40.08 | ricky_clarkson | Set +E, then it's freenode's problem. |
| 13:40.14 | SimonRaven | abrotman: i know i saw it coming too when i said that ;) |
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| 13:40.23 | malthusian | how do I change my video driver? |
| 13:40.25 | wols_ | and not VERSIONed either |
| 13:40.28 | ricky_clarkson | !drxx malthusian |
| 13:40.29 | dpkg | malthusian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 13:41.26 | moaltmann_ | ot(?): is irc.debian.org actually on irc.freenode.net? |
| 13:41.31 | antgel_ | yep |
| 13:41.33 | greycat | here comes another wave. |
| 13:41.37 | abrotman | what happens if we start telling the bots stuff? |
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| 13:41.41 | greycat | moaltmann_: host(1) is your friend. |
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| 13:42.29 | MegaManX | Well guys, I've to get some rest and think better about the PSU. Thanks everyone for help. |
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| 13:43.10 | abrotman | !tell CRAZY_king_ about msg |
| 13:43.10 | malthusian | my mouse is being a bastard! |
| 13:43.12 | abrotman | damn |
| 13:43.17 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.45 | Anthro | I'm still using XFree86, but I could be convinced to go to Xorg if it will solve this issue. I have a Kensington Expert Mouse Pro with six "extra" buttons (under Windows or MacOS they can be set to do pretty much anything). Using the Wacom kernel module, events for them show up in /dev/input/event0. If using the wacom XF86 driver, buttons 1 and 2 are interpreted as mouse buttons. I'd like them to show up as high-numbered keycodes so I can |
| 13:43.45 | Anthro | bind them to whatever I like with xmodmap and my wm. I'm pretty sure the wacom kernel driver is the wrong choice (I was using it by accident), and I know the wacom X input driver is the wrong choice. What are the right choices? |
| 13:44.03 | mikael_ | anyone knows why my printer doesn't print (i've tried printing a test page, printing from firefox (i have never suceeded to print anything)). it worked in windows only last week, so it's something with debian/gnu/linux/gnome |
| 13:44.15 | greycat | FieldySnuts: a million mouse buttons, xmodmap |
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| 13:44.28 | mikael_ | i've been googleing on print docs but i don't find anything informative :) |
| 13:44.29 | FieldySnuts | eh? |
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| 13:45.03 | Anthro | FieldySnuts: I was trying to be complete. Short version: trackball with programmable buttons, want them to be available as high-numbered keycodes in X. |
| 13:45.10 | FieldySnuts | got me |
| 13:45.12 | antgel_ | mikael_: perhaps you should tell us about your setup rather than relying on our psychic abilities? |
| 13:45.17 | greycat | ask #xfree86 or #xorg |
| 13:45.38 | Anthro | greycat: will do. |
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| 13:46.54 | mikael_ | antgel_ oh, sorry. it's a epson epl-5900l usb, i've tried foomatic-gui and gnome's print setup things... i don't know what else to specify really... sorry |
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| 13:47.10 | greycat | can we just use some of the US's nuclear arsenal and destroy Turkey? like, the whole country? |
| 13:47.21 | mikael_ | greycat why? |
| 13:47.24 | ricky_clarkson | I'm using vncviewer and whenever I press tab it scrolls through the vncviewer controls, rather than sending the keypress to the vncserver. Any suggestions? |
| 13:47.32 | greycat | mikael_: it's where all these spam bots are |
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| 13:47.37 | abrotman | not all of them |
| 13:47.44 | mikael_ | greycat, abrotman ok |
| 13:47.45 | wols_ | greycat: not all |
| 13:47.49 | antgel_ | mikael_: are you using cups? |
| 13:47.49 | greycat | abrotman: it would be a damned good start! |
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| 13:48.09 | abrotman | greycat: yes ... it would |
| 13:48.13 | abrotman | !tell KENAN31 about msg |
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| 13:48.19 | mikael_ | antgel_ it's installed, i havn't actively done anything to use it |
| 13:48.37 | antgel_ | mikael_: perhaps you should set up your printer under cups then. |
| 13:48.39 | streuner | greycat: 85.101.*.* - i see no other way |
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| 13:48.43 | antgel_ | !tell mikael_ about cups |
| 13:48.47 | ricky_clarkson | One thing about Turkey, it's only got one ADSL provider, run by the government. So if you ban their users you ban the country, pretty much. |
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| 13:48.58 | antgel_ | !tell mikael_ about cups setup |
| 13:48.59 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: and? |
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| 13:49.14 | ricky_clarkson | And there are *some* legitimate Turkish users. |
| 13:49.18 | wols_ | ricky_clarkson: do you also happen to know why no turk ever has a working reverse dns? |
| 13:49.20 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@85.9?.*.*] by greycat |
| 13:49.20 | mikael_ | whee |
| 13:49.23 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@85.10?.*.*] by greycat |
| 13:49.26 | wols_ | I've never ever seen them with a symbolic hostname |
| 13:49.32 | ricky_clarkson | wols_: ttnet.net.tr |
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| 13:49.44 | abrotman | wols_: some of them do |
| 13:49.49 | mikael_ | however, my printer was already there |
| 13:49.58 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@81.21?.*.*] by greycat |
| 13:49.59 | streuner | ricky_clarkson: some channel praticed another way, you can /join them only as identified user |
| 13:50.00 | wols_ | abrotman: must be more rare than 2horned unicorns |
| 13:50.05 | greycat | FieldySnuts: your wish has been granted. |
| 13:50.07 | ricky_clarkson | streuner: ##java does that. |
| 13:50.10 | antgel_ | mikael_: already where? please be more specific |
| 13:50.20 | ricky_clarkson | streuner: That wouldn't stop these spambots though. |
| 13:50.28 | Anthro | ricky_clarkson: When I use vncviewer I have no "vncviewer controls." What vncviewer are you using? |
| 13:50.29 | abrotman | wols_: there were a lot last night .. maybe thier ISPs shut them off |
| 13:50.31 | streuner | ricky_clarkson: #ubuntu and #gentoo serveral hours ago too |
| 13:50.34 | mikael_ | EPL-5900L is already on the printer list on the host localhost:631, and when i send a test page to the printer from there, nothing happens |
| 13:50.54 | ricky_clarkson | streuner: An identified user could join a channel and then tell spambots which nicks to spam. Those spambots wouldn't have to join. |
| 13:50.57 | antgel_ | mikael_: suggest you read the cups docs. check the logs. then come back if you can't sort it. |
| 13:51.02 | ricky_clarkson | streuner: That's why we can't currently ban these buggers. |
| 13:51.04 | mikael_ | what's the printers location? like, /dev/usb/lp0? |
| 13:51.07 | ricky_clarkson | streuner: +E is the way to go, imo. |
| 13:51.07 | Anthro | mikael_: Does the printer say it's started? |
| 13:51.26 | SimonRaven | woohoo greycat |
| 13:51.31 | streuner | ricky_clarkson: we have actually another problem... (join and leave) |
| 13:51.32 | mikael_ | the printer doesn't say anything |
| 13:51.41 | ricky_clarkson | streuner: Eh? |
| 13:51.50 | antgel_ | the discussion of the spambots is becoming more annoying than the spambots themselves |
| 13:52.10 | ricky_clarkson | So is the discussion of how annoying the discussion of the spambots. |
| 13:52.20 | mikael_ | :) |
| 13:52.22 | streuner | antgel: if you have a suggestion, feel free to tell us |
| 13:52.26 | SimonRaven | meta-discussions are meta-annoying |
| 13:52.26 | hondza | streuner: consider /ignoring joins and leaves. I'm doing that on channels with >100 users :0 |
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| 13:52.42 | abrotman | hondza: not all clients support that |
| 13:52.48 | antgel_ | mikael_: what do you mean say anything? please go and read the cups docs and your logs. |
| 13:52.52 | antgel_ | ricky_clarkson: :P |
| 13:53.12 | SimonRaven | /var/log/cups/* |
| 13:53.14 | antgel_ | streuner: yes, lets all stop sitting here complaining and go out and fight them! |
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| 13:53.30 | SimonRaven | "put up your dukes mr. spam bot!" |
| 13:53.35 | hondza | abrotman: right :/ |
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| 13:54.00 | mikael_ | sorry for not being specific... |
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| 13:54.14 | SimonRaven | specific things need specifying |
| 13:54.36 | antgel_ | have SimonRaven and ravenbird swapped /nicks? |
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| 13:54.53 | abrotman | SimonRaven: date FieldySnuts |
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| 13:55.00 | abrotman | guess not |
| 13:55.05 | SimonRaven | greycat: nooooo, not that! that's just plain torture |
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| 13:55.16 | alex_extreme | @execute alex_extreme |
| 13:55.21 | alex_extreme | hmm |
| 13:55.31 | mikael_ | i find tons of tons of completed jobs on the page http://localhost:631/jobs?which_jobs=completed but no one of them was actually printed. when i try to click "restart" it says that the job was done but nothing comes out of the printer |
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| 13:55.38 | ravenbird | no, we haven't |
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| 13:55.53 | abrotman | ravenbird: does SimonRaven treat you well? |
| 13:55.53 | Dizer | Hi. |
| 13:55.54 | ravenbird | abrotman: no idea |
| 13:56.03 | ravenbird | he tries |
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| 13:56.07 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 13:56.19 | abrotman | ravenbird: you should go on a date with apt! |
| 13:56.20 | ravenbird | abrotman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 13:56.27 | greycat | !marry apt and ravenbird |
| 13:56.28 | dpkg | apt, do you take ravenbird to be your lawfully wedded spouse? ravenbird, do you take apt? Cool. Kiss or something. |
| 13:56.30 | apt | yes, I take ravenbird to be your lawfully wedded spouse? ravenbird, do you take apt? Cool. Kiss or something.. |
| 13:56.31 | ravenbird | nah, apt's not my type |
| 13:56.32 | antgel_ | mikael_: have you read the docs and checked the logs yet? |
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| 13:56.35 | abrotman | ravenbird: will you still love apt if he is? |
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| 13:56.37 | ravenbird | abrotman: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 13:56.45 | greycat | heh |
| 13:56.55 | ravenbird | yeh, we're buddies |
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| 13:57.06 | antgel_ | ravenbird: "special" buddies? |
| 13:57.07 | ravenbird | antgel_: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 13:57.16 | antgel_ | yeah. <sigh> |
| 13:57.17 | abrotman | ravenbird: could you eat a Piggy if you had to? |
| 13:57.18 | ravenbird | abrotman: are you using Windows? |
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| 13:57.41 | ravenbird | i don't eat pig |
| 13:57.42 | DrZoot | hey all, trying to compile a kernel on deb unbstable with gcc 4.0, its a vanilla kernel 2.6.12.5. compiles okay but all of the modules spit out symbol not found errors, anyone got any ideas? |
| 13:57.49 | greycat | we should get ricky_clarkson to do a kernel parameter test next. |
| 13:57.58 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: screen says it must be connected to a terminal. |
| 13:58.04 | abrotman | DrZoot: i dont think that works |
| 13:58.07 | SimonRaven | meh, that sucks :/ |
| 13:58.13 | ricky_clarkson | I'm trying to start 'screen irssi' on boot, anyone? |
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| 13:58.20 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: maybe you need expect |
| 13:58.21 | ricky_clarkson | @reboot screen irssi |
| 13:58.30 | Phated | ricky_clarkson: .bash_profile? :) |
| 13:58.37 | greycat | Phated: that's not boot time |
| 13:58.42 | ricky_clarkson | Phated: .que? |
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| 13:58.49 | SimonRaven | .what? |
| 13:58.50 | antgel_ | DrZoot: if you're not using debian sources, you're on your own (aka i don't have a clue but you might want to paste the erros somewhere) |
| 13:58.53 | Phated | No, but it would start it close enough to it. :) |
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| 13:59.00 | SimonRaven | bah ;p |
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| 13:59.09 | Phated | If screen needs a terminal... wait till it has a terminal before launching it. |
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| 13:59.17 | greycat | I still say he needs expect. |
| 13:59.24 | greycat | Because I love saying that. I've never actually used it. |
| 13:59.33 | mikael_ | antgel_ i've been trying to find the docs for the web interface and the logs doesn't report an error... just says "started /usr..." |
| 13:59.43 | ehtom-z | anyone know how to solve the following problem when I boot the debian-amd64 testing netinst CD: |
| 13:59.45 | SimonRaven | i expect that he might have some expectations of what to expect from expect |
| 13:59.52 | ehtom-z | "Could not load kernel image: linux" |
| 13:59.55 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: I don't know what to do with expect. |
| 14:00.01 | greycat | ehtom-z: ask #debian-amd64 or #debian-boot |
| 14:00.10 | SimonRaven | it expects things to happen |
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| 14:00.14 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: me either, but it sure *sounds* like the right answer |
| 14:00.15 | ricky_clarkson | Aha. |
| 14:00.21 | ricky_clarkson | screen -d looks handy. |
| 14:00.28 | ehtom-z | greycat, #debian-amd64: no answer, so i'll try #debian-boot... thanks |
| 14:00.29 | miag | how to replace garnome-2.11.92 with current gnome in debian sid? i successfully installed it my home dir. |
| 14:00.33 | ricky_clarkson | -d -m, rather. |
| 14:00.35 | duncf | ooh the spambots have progressed beyond blank messages |
| 14:00.40 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 14:00.46 | ricky_clarkson | Start screen in "detached" mode. This creates a new session but doesn’t attach to it. This is useful for system startup scripts. |
| 14:00.51 | antgel_ | mikael_: ffs, am i supposed to gues the rest of the log? all debian docs are in /usr/share/doc/cupsys*, and www.cups.org has more than you or i would ever want to know. |
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| 14:00.56 | SimonRaven | the bot master gre a brain, and more annoying |
| 14:01.00 | SimonRaven | grew* |
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| 14:01.09 | mikael_ | antgel_ thanks |
| 14:01.09 | SimonRaven | too bad i can't grow a decent keyboard |
| 14:01.10 | greycat | a sad, dysfunctional brain. |
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| 14:01.15 | SimonRaven | indeed |
| 14:01.25 | mikael_ | who me? |
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| 14:01.50 | SimonRaven | no |
| 14:02.03 | mikael_ | ok |
| 14:02.18 | antgel_ | miag: garnome isn't in debian, but why not just delete it and install from sid? actually - the other way around, aiui sid is in a bad way atm |
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| 14:02.22 | miag | i mean _startup_ |
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| 14:02.50 | Dizer | So. |
| 14:02.52 | miag | i am not delete current gnome at all. |
| 14:02.54 | Dizer | How about that weather. |
| 14:02.54 | mikael_ | now it says PID 7935 stopped with status 3! Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to "debug" to find out more. but i have set loglevel debug in the config and /etc/init.d/cupsys restart |
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| 14:03.07 | DrZoot | antgel_: as far as i can tell the debian sources still have several show stopper errors when compiling with gcc4 |
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| 14:03.25 | tuomas_ | cgg (4!)? |
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| 14:03.32 | tuomas_ | gcc (4!)? |
| 14:03.33 | antgel_ | DrZoot: that's unstable, you get what you're given |
| 14:03.39 | abrotman | antgel_: not all clients can |
| 14:04.04 | DrZoot | abrotman: what do you mean you dont think it works? as in compiling a kernel with gcc4 doesnt work? |
| 14:04.27 | abrotman | DrZoot: does linux support being compiled by gcc4 ? |
| 14:04.39 | greycat | abrotman: nope |
| 14:04.43 | antgel_ | mikael_: aha. funny how looking in the log helps :) |
| 14:04.44 | tuomas_ | which OS supports gcc 3.3+? |
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| 14:04.47 | abrotman | DrZoot: and there you have your answer |
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| 14:04.53 | miag | gcc4 works for kernel compile |
| 14:05.02 | mikael_ | antgel_ yeah you're right |
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| 14:05.32 | tuomas_ | so linux kernel compiled with gcc 4 works better or worse apart from the good old 3.3? |
| 14:05.40 | antgel_ | DrZoot: this may seem crazy, but why not (1) not use gcc4 (2) not build a kernel? |
| 14:05.40 | greycat | tuomas_: Linux 2.4.18+ (I believe) can be built with gcc 3.3 |
| 14:06.03 | DrZoot | alright so no gcc4 kernel compile, i can deal with that but it seems silly to install a gcc by default that doesnt support compiling a kernel |
| 14:06.04 | tuomas_ | yeah, the older kernels demand 2.xx |
| 14:06.13 | antgel_ | !tell DrZoot about unstable |
| 14:06.14 | greycat | 2.0.x needs gcc 2.7 |
| 14:06.19 | FieldySnuts | dumbass. that's unstable. |
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| 14:06.23 | abrotman | egcs ? :) |
| 14:06.27 | antgel_ | DrZoot: yep, so why do it? :) |
| 14:06.42 | DrZoot | antgel_ you dont need to tell me about unstable i know what im getting |
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| 14:06.44 | tuomas_ | i wish a compiler that could compile straight on an fpga chip |
| 14:06.48 | FieldySnuts | i bet he doesn't know what the bts is either |
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| 14:06.53 | antgel_ | DrZoot: apparently i do |
| 14:06.54 | FieldySnuts | DrZoot: you sure don't seem to know |
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| 14:06.56 | wols_ | DrZoot: then why do you whine about it? |
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| 14:07.06 | tuomas_ | i'm trying to put a debian base system asa hobby in the school lab on anj fpga.. and man that sux |
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| 14:07.17 | FieldySnuts | miag: don't ask us, do it the debian way or we can't help |
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| 14:07.34 | miag | ok |
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| 14:08.09 | dan12 | oi |
| 14:08.13 | humbolt | what do I have to allow in hosts.allow in order to make the nfs-kernel-server work? |
| 14:08.14 | wols_ | antgel_: the first time you have to use bash from cygwin it will come back in full force |
| 14:08.18 | wols_ | and man does it suck |
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| 14:08.28 | greycat | humbolt: nothing. and nothing in hosts.deny. |
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| 14:08.29 | dan12 | hi |
| 14:08.39 | MaxPower | Hi, im installing mambo CMS and its saying the folder n files are unwritable, but ive "chmod +rwx /mambo" and its still not saying its writable, could someone help please? |
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| 14:08.50 | ricky_clarkson | SimonRaven: Yay, it works now. But irssi tries to access the network before pump gets an IP address, and then waits AGES to timeout and try again. |
| 14:08.51 | dan12 | ok |
| 14:08.52 | antgel_ | wols_: the only sucky thing so far is that i couldn't build gnuclient. when i think about the alternative (xp), i'm happy. |
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| 14:09.02 | wols_ | MaxPower: your mamabo most probably runs as www-data as any apache should |
| 14:09.06 | tuomas_ | everyone's istalling mambo now lol... i guess /. has some marketing power after all |
| 14:09.06 | antgel_ | !tell MaxPower about unix lessons |
| 14:09.08 | humbolt | greycat: but I have something in hosts.allow for other services. But nfs does not use the tcpd? |
| 14:09.08 | dan12 | yes |
| 14:09.13 | syntaxx | is there a fbsetbg for debian? |
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| 14:09.32 | ricky_clarkson | !search fbsetbg |
| 14:09.37 | tuomas_ | all mambo needs is a working Linux/php/apache/mysql configuration |
| 14:09.37 | humbolt | I get a permission denied from the server |
| 14:09.44 | greycat | humbolt: I *despise* and *loath* using TCP wrappers for access control. I use a firewall for that. So I can't help you with hosts_access(5) syntax. check the docs. |
| 14:09.51 | FieldySnuts | amen |
| 14:09.52 | streuner | !find fbsetbg |
| 14:09.57 | asg | it's in fluxbox |
| 14:09.59 | greycat | humbolt: permission denied means "read the damned logs" |
| 14:10.01 | antgel_ | !tell syntaxx about search |
| 14:10.07 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'fbsetbg' (1): (/usr/bin/fbsetbg) in x11/fluxbox. |
| 14:10.12 | MaxPower | yeh i have all of that set up |
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| 14:10.13 | syntaxx | sorry |
| 14:10.32 | greycat | humbolt: make sure the NFS server's idea of what your client's hostname is (which WILL BE LOGGED) is the same as what YOU think your client's hostname is. |
| 14:10.36 | tuomas_ | permission denied means also "get yourself a working used ID on ALL services on your server, including sql" |
| 14:10.49 | greycat | tuomas_: not in the context of a failed NFS monut. |
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| 14:10.52 | greycat | mount* |
| 14:10.53 | tuomas_ | ah, nfs this time |
| 14:11.07 | tuomas_ | logs then |
| 14:11.30 | humbolt | mountd[14633]: refused mount request from 192.168.0.19 |
| 14:11.30 | humbolt | 7 for /data (/): not exported |
| 14:11.39 | FieldySnuts | heh. |
| 14:11.39 | tuomas_ | i confused you with the kid trying to put up a web page |
| 14:11.42 | humbolt | so root must be exported as well? |
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| 14:11.46 | greycat | so your NFS server thinks 192.168.0.197 has no hostname |
| 14:12.00 | SimonRaven | humbolt: no |
| 14:12.02 | greycat | what did you put in the exports(5) file? |
| 14:12.14 | humbolt | that is right, it does not. and, it has to? |
| 14:12.22 | SimonRaven | no |
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| 14:13.00 | SimonRaven | fucking hell... |
| 14:13.01 | FieldySnuts | ~lart rpc |
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| 14:13.11 | humbolt | SimonRaven: So I need a hostname for this IP in my /etc/hosts in order to be able to connect? |
| 14:13.21 | greycat | humbolt: no, you just need everything to MATCH. |
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| 14:13.31 | greycat | 10:12 greycat> what did you put in the exports(5) file? |
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| 14:14.13 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 14:14.30 | henke | Hmm, does anybody have an idea why mount takes about a minute to mount a NFS export? It finishes after a minute, whereafter the mount works perfectly. |
| 14:15.02 | FieldySnuts | lame dns? |
| 14:15.24 | humbolt | OK, works now |
| 14:15.27 | henke | FieldySnuts, I'm using IP's for it all |
| 14:15.31 | humbolt | Thanks a lot! |
| 14:15.43 | greycat | henke: it will still try to look up the IP address's PTR record |
| 14:15.55 | henke | green_earz, ahh, that could be it. |
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| 14:16.04 | henke | greycat, erm, that was for you |
| 14:16.08 | w1ng | hi |
| 14:16.12 | w1ng | i need some help |
| 14:16.16 | FieldySnuts | with? |
| 14:16.16 | w1ng | iptables --table mangle --append PREROUTING --jump DSCP --set-dscp 0x0 |
| 14:16.20 | FieldySnuts | #iptables |
| 14:16.22 | abrotman | #iptables |
| 14:16.26 | FieldySnuts | :/ |
| 14:16.28 | w1ng | thanks |
| 14:16.33 | w1ng | this is not the problem |
| 14:16.47 | MaxPower | how do you set the folder permissions to be 777 please? |
| 14:16.48 | w1ng | i need this command to be ran on every system start |
| 14:16.51 | abrotman | oh right .. we inferred that from the iptables line you threw at us |
| 14:16.53 | FieldySnuts | ~folder |
| 14:16.56 | apt | from memory, folder is its a directory damn it!, or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet |
| 14:16.56 | FieldySnuts | man chmod |
| 14:17.04 | abrotman | w1ng: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 14:17.09 | w1ng | tanks |
| 14:17.11 | w1ng | thanks |
| 14:17.13 | abrotman | w1ng: and man interfaces |
| 14:17.29 | MaxPower | FieldySnuts, yeah done that.. but cant make sense of it |
| 14:17.48 | antgel_ | MaxPower: try reading it |
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| 14:18.19 | MaxPower | antgel_ i have, so i did chmod +rwx /dir |
| 14:18.19 | FieldySnuts | shrug. i'm not going to give answers when a clear document exists |
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| 14:18.27 | MaxPower | but it still hasnt opened it up |
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| 14:18.46 | antgel_ | !tell MaxPower about permissions |
| 14:19.02 | antgel_ | hmm |
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| 14:19.10 | ehtom-z | greycat, got no answer to my problem in debian-boot either |
| 14:19.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | can anyone give me some help with a DHCP server? |
| 14:19.36 | FieldySnuts | probably |
| 14:19.40 | FieldySnuts | uh no. |
| 14:19.40 | abrotman | jcurry: did you just spam us |
| 14:19.41 | MaxPower | antgel_ wants you to know: i heard permissions is multiple acts of permitting |
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| 14:19.51 | jcurry | abrotman, no, i'm just lonely |
| 14:19.58 | FieldySnuts | at least he's honest |
| 14:20.04 | FieldySnuts | @hug jcurry |
| 14:20.12 | jcurry | abrotman, i usually hang out here anyway, and i find the debianites are particularly good at trivia |
| 14:20.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | o_0 |
| 14:20.13 | abrotman | jcurry: the answers are 3 or gran moff tarkin |
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| 14:20.38 | antgel_ | MaxPower: did you read the unix lessons factoid i sent you? lesson 1 being don't fuck with the permissions? another lesson being don't type a command if you don't know what you're doing? |
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| 14:20.53 | uedauhes | The debian net install does not appear to be loading any modules |
| 14:20.56 | abrotman | jcurry: what kind of questions ? |
| 14:21.00 | uedauhes | as a result I cant get nic working |
| 14:21.03 | uedauhes | any ideas? |
| 14:21.05 | jcurry | abrotman, general trivia |
| 14:21.09 | SimonRaven | MaxPower: chmod 777 is very rarely the answer to problems |
| 14:21.11 | jcurry | abrotman, try it, it's fun :) |
| 14:21.11 | antgel_ | uedauhes: sarge? |
| 14:21.18 | FieldySnuts | SimonRaven: it's for windows users :D |
| 14:21.19 | uedauhes | antgel_: yes |
| 14:21.27 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 14:21.29 | greycat | !wikifaq MaxPower Permissions |
| 14:21.30 | dpkg | MaxPower: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:21.47 | MaxPower | Ok thanks..ill read up |
| 14:21.59 | uedauhes | antgel_: lsmod prints empty table |
| 14:22.06 | antgel_ | uedauhes: what network card? |
| 14:22.14 | antgel_ | uedauhes: lsmod from the installer shell? |
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| 14:22.30 | uedauhes | antgel: tried 2 - LNE100TX and FA311 |
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| 14:22.56 | uedauhes | antgel_: yes I quit just before the apt install section |
| 14:22.59 | antgel_ | uedauhes: are they pci? ethernet? |
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| 14:23.06 | uedauhes | antgel_: and go to shell |
| 14:23.17 | uedauhes | antgel_: PCI ethernet |
| 14:23.25 | syntaxx | what tool is for getting screenshot? lol i forgot what is it called |
| 14:23.29 | FieldySnuts | fa311 == natsemi |
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| 14:23.29 | uedauhes | antgel_: Very common |
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| 14:23.40 | uedauhes | antgel_: one is linksys, the other is netgear |
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| 14:23.59 | uedauhes | antgel_: netgear comes with driver but I dont have make yet since its a net install |
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| 14:24.08 | FieldySnuts | fa311 == natsemi |
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| 14:24.16 | FieldySnuts | done repeating. |
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| 14:24.28 | syntaxx | !search xsnap |
| 14:24.38 | SimonRaven | ok, fuck it, vixie cron stays. wanted to remove a crapload of stuff |
| 14:24.39 | greycat | syntaxx: /msg dpkg screen shot |
| 14:24.52 | uedauhes | antgel_: shouldnt lsmod show something though? |
| 14:25.18 | uedauhes | antgel_: not only are nic modules not there... there is nothing there |
| 14:25.30 | FieldySnuts | load it? |
| 14:25.51 | uedauhes | FieldySnuts: Ill look for it |
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| 14:28.07 | mmiikkee12 | why does aptitude try to remove my kernel when i install something? |
| 14:28.12 | uedauhes | FieldySnuts: natsemi.o version mismatch |
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| 14:28.26 | FieldySnuts | got me. |
| 14:28.51 | uedauhes | FieldySnuts: compiled for 2.4.27-2-386 while this kernel is 2.4.29 |
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| 14:28.58 | FieldySnuts | i have no idea, you're asking the wron person |
| 14:29.03 | antgel__ | uedauhes: where did you get this iso? |
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| 14:29.07 | jethro | @aussiesmite |
| 14:29.09 | jethro | @aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 14:29.09 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: cheerio mate |
| 14:29.20 | uedauhes | antgel_: torrent from debian site |
| 14:29.24 | streuner | apt, tell raftor about root |
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| 14:29.42 | uedauhes | antgel_: minimal install |
| 14:30.09 | uedauhes | antgel__: minimal install |
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| 14:31.15 | antgel__ | uedauhes: hmm. i'm not au fait with all this new-fangled torrent stuff. did you follow the link from www.debian.org? |
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| 14:31.28 | uedauhes | antgel__: yes |
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| 14:31.31 | antgel__ | uedauhes: very fucking minimal |
| 14:31.53 | uedauhes | antgel__: I was hoping for one CD |
| 14:31.58 | antgel__ | uedauhes: exactly what link did you follow? |
| 14:32.03 | uedauhes | antgel__: let me check |
| 14:32.31 | antgel__ | uedauhes: btw, don't /msg me |
| 14:32.38 | henke | greycat, I added entries in /etc/hosts to manage that, and looking at the syslog, it seems to reverse lookup the hostname fine. Still, the delay is there when I try to mount the NFS export. |
| 14:33.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | is there a "subnet" option in the interfaces file? or is that netmask? |
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| 14:33.14 | antgel__ | Kamping_Kaiser: it is and man interfaces |
| 14:33.18 | streuner | henke: edit /etc/hosts |
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| 14:33.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | yeh, didnt see it so thanks. I'll look agian :) |
| 14:33.34 | politik | someone recommend some personal finance tracking software? |
| 14:33.34 | uedauhes | antgel__: whys that |
| 14:33.41 | antgel__ | !topicsmit uedauhes |
| 14:33.43 | henke | streuner, that's what I did :) |
| 14:33.45 | mmiikkee12 | when i start gnome, it tells me it couldn't look up the hostname for debian and it will prevent gnome from operating correctly. gnome operates fine, but how do i get rid of that? |
| 14:33.45 | antgel__ | !topicsmite uedauhes |
| 14:33.46 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon uedauhes. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 14:33.56 | antgel__ | uedauhes: because. |
| 14:33.57 | streuner | henke: no success? |
| 14:34.04 | stew | mmiikkee12: put your hostname in /etc/hosts |
| 14:34.18 | mmiikkee12 | anything else there? |
| 14:34.26 | uedauhes | antgel__: heh |
| 14:34.27 | mmiikkee12 | already tried that |
| 14:34.48 | streuner | henke: show us your /etc/hosts in #flood |
| 14:34.51 | henke | streuner, no, now the hostname shows up instead of the IP on the server's syslog on the successful mount though, Still takes a long time to mount |
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| 14:34.55 | greycat | henke: consult the logs. if you're still confused, write up the full description of the problem WITH **ALL** OF THE RELEVANT DETAILS, and prepare to pastebin it. You'll probably fix the problem yourself before you actually have to paste it. |
| 14:35.20 | uedauhes | antgel__: What is the rationale behind not /msging ppl? |
| 14:35.31 | greycat | henke: hint: relevant details includes nsswitch.conf |
| 14:35.35 | antgel__ | uedauhes: anyway, i don't see any torrent netinstalls linked to from www.debian.org. get a proper install image. |
| 14:35.54 | FieldySnuts | amen |
| 14:35.57 | antgel__ | uedauhes: (1) i ain't your bitch (2) see 1 |
| 14:36.00 | mmiikkee12 | uedauhes: it gets annoying |
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| 14:36.18 | mmiikkee12 | like those spambots (+E rocks! |
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| 14:36.33 | uedauhes | all: seems more appropriate to /msg than add unneccessary chatter to the channel |
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| 14:36.48 | greycat | !tell uedauhes about guidelines |
| 14:36.51 | greycat | !tell uedauhes about msg |
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| 14:37.21 | greycat | A debian question is not "unnecessary chatter". |
| 14:37.26 | valdyn | uedauhes: you'll have to leave that up to whoever is helping you, you are free to help people in /msg or via whichever method of your choice |
| 14:37.28 | xet7 | How big is debian's *.deb archive, if I download it all with apt-mirror? Does it fit to DVD (4.7 GB) ? |
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| 14:37.40 | streuner | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso.torrent |
| 14:37.41 | greycat | xet7: no |
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| 14:37.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | xet7: main is 15000 packages |
| 14:37.58 | antgel__ | streuner: i see it |
| 14:38.06 | nkour | Seb, r u the gnome python extras maintaier? |
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| 14:38.20 | xet7 | How big is Sarge in GB? |
| 14:38.20 | valdyn | xet7: its ~ 2 DVD, for one arch, exluding source packages |
| 14:38.21 | uedauhes | all: kk |
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| 14:38.35 | politik | anyone? recommend some finance software? |
| 14:38.36 | streuner | xet7: 14 CD's each 650 MB |
| 14:38.40 | ehtom-z | if I install debian sarge, then dist-upgrade to etch... is the end result going to be any different from just installing etch in the first place? |
| 14:38.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | xet7: those are dula layer IIRC |
| 14:38.50 | asg | politik: gnucash is probably the only real one available |
| 14:38.50 | streuner | xet7: the last CD (14) is about 350 MB.... |
| 14:38.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | 14 cds or 2 dual layer dvds |
| 14:38.55 | antgel__ | ehtom-z: only if the etch installer is broken |
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| 14:39.16 | streuner | apt, 14*650 |
| 14:39.18 | apt | 9100 |
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| 14:39.33 | valdyn | ehtom-z: yes, theoretically, i dont know what the situation is right now. |
| 14:39.36 | henke | streuner, the logs show a successful mount authentication instantly, with the hostname shown.The relevant /etc/hosts entry is 10.8.0.2 laptop |
| 14:39.37 | antgel__ | it's amazing that debian fits on a couple of dvds. i remember receiving ms office 95 on about 30 floppies |
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| 14:39.49 | ehtom-z | ok |
| 14:40.00 | greycat | antgel__: hahaha |
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| 14:40.14 | greycat | I remember installing SLS from 5.25" floppies |
| 14:40.26 | antgel__ | ehtom-z: if you download sarge, then you have both choices for future installs |
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| 14:40.31 | asg | antgel__: I had OS/2 on 25 or so 5.25" floppies |
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| 14:40.58 | uedauhes | antgel__: ah here is where I dled it: http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
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| 14:41.19 | caranthir | how do I get a default hald configuration going, the hal-service-manager won't start for me either |
| 14:41.29 | asg | streuner: my first hard drive was only big enough to have either X or emacs installed + base. I never learned emacs because of that. |
| 14:41.39 | greycat | Is it just me... or did banning the big turkish IP ranges fix the spambot problem? |
| 14:41.39 | uedauhes | antgel__: which is, according to the site, the preferred method |
| 14:41.47 | asg | greycat: seems to be the case |
| 14:41.55 | streuner | greycat: you had success |
| 14:41.55 | uedauhes | antgel__: as described here: http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
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| 14:42.32 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i see. looks good to me. and you got the stable, not testing image? in any case, i'm too old for bittorrent, but i can recommend that you download the stable netinst iso via other means (e.g. http or ftp) |
| 14:42.47 | mmiikkee12 | is it possible to move a debian install from one partition to another? |
| 14:43.02 | antgel__ | mmiikkee12: why? |
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| 14:43.10 | uedauhes | antgel__: how about jigdo? |
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| 14:43.19 | valdyn | mmiikkee12: yes, though its not entirely trivial |
| 14:43.28 | xet7 | well, how can I divide it to 2 x 8.5gB DVD's, or 4 x 4.7 GB DVD:s? So I can change DVD when it asks for other packages? |
| 14:43.34 | greycat | !possible |
| 14:43.34 | dpkg | Anything's possible. Some things are more possible than others. You'll need to ask a more meaningful question if you want to find out how possible your planned course of action is. |
| 14:43.41 | mmiikkee12 | because i just deleted mandriva, and its partition was bigger so i want to use it for debian |
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| 14:43.57 | greycat | mount, copy it over, update your boot loader. |
| 14:44.09 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i really don't use any of the flash stuff so can't help you. all i know is the netinst iso isn't that large. btw, you could try the torrent again. if no luck, please help debian by filing a bug |
| 14:44.15 | streuner | xet7: debian sarge fits onto 2 DVD's |
| 14:44.17 | valdyn | greycat: thats not enough ( if you use udev ) |
| 14:44.32 | FieldySnuts | ~lart udev |
| 14:44.37 | greycat | !fuck udev |
| 14:44.38 | uedauhes | antgel__: maybe there is hash for iso I can check |
| 14:44.51 | streuner | xet7: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-dvd/ |
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| 14:44.51 | xet7 | Ok, 2 x 4.7 GB DVD |
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| 14:45.20 | valdyn | !clone debian |
| 14:45.20 | daos | does anyone use qmail, or point me in the directio of the source for debian? |
| 14:45.25 | mmiikkee12 | yeah... i tried but i couldn't copy /dev |
| 14:45.25 | daos | sarge |
| 14:45.33 | greycat | !wikifaq daos MailQuestions |
| 14:45.33 | dpkg | daos: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/MailQuestions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:45.37 | antgel__ | uedauhes: if it's mention kernel version mismatches in module loading, i'd just cut your lossses |
| 14:46.03 | valdyn | mmiikkee12: why not? |
| 14:46.13 | greycat | because he forgot to use cp -a |
| 14:46.18 | uedauhes | antgel__: as in use another distro? |
| 14:46.25 | uedauhes | antgel__: scandalous |
| 14:46.25 | greycat | P.S.: don't copy /proc or /sys |
| 14:46.26 | Ronin | daos: i do, works like a charm however its not got many fans here :) |
| 14:46.58 | antgel__ | uedauhes: perish the thought. as in download an image over http or ftp. use a mirror if you are that worried about your 100mb download clogging up the information superhighway :) |
| 14:47.13 | greycat | or use BT. it's actually good. |
| 14:47.25 | aeacides | wow, the gnome screensavers are fantastic |
| 14:47.26 | antgel__ | greycat: he did, and he got a borked iso |
| 14:47.36 | xet7 | streuner: so I just download those 2 DVD images and sudo apt-cdrom add them? |
| 14:47.49 | mmiikkee12 | actually, couldn't copy anything, it would just say 'cp: skipping directory/bin' or similar |
| 14:47.53 | uedauhes | iso seems to work fine |
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| 14:48.07 | uedauhes | but nic modules dont load |
| 14:48.14 | streuner | xet7: if you have a 'normal' i-net connection just use netinstall |
| 14:48.19 | valdyn | mmiikkee12: are you trying that as root? |
| 14:48.19 | antgel__ | uedauhes: so it doesn't work fine then, does it? |
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| 14:48.32 | daos | greycat: thanks :D |
| 14:48.39 | streuner | xet7: you prolly don't need most packages of sarge anyway... |
| 14:48.41 | uedauhes | antgel__: I dont know, could be something on my eng |
| 14:48.46 | mmiikkee12 | in a root console in gnome, and in a normal console after 'su' |
| 14:48.55 | uedauhes | *end |
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| 14:49.11 | greycat | uedauhes: 1) what kernel, 2) what NIC, 3) what module, 4) what error? |
| 14:49.15 | valdyn | mmiikkee12: and.. the command you are trying to copy with is ? |
| 14:49.16 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 14:49.17 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY JESUS CRY! |
| 14:49.20 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i doubt it. your end can't make the kernel and module versions different. you could also try booting the installer in 2.6 not 2.4 |
| 14:49.35 | mmiikkee12 | cp /bin /mnt/debian-new |
| 14:49.39 | antgel__ | greycat: he gets version mismatch on install 2.4.27 -> 2.4.29 |
| 14:49.42 | greycat | mmiikkee12: jesus christ.... |
| 14:49.46 | xet7 | streuner: I have one pc that does recongnize network card and get's IP address and all, but using Internet doesn't work. |
| 14:49.50 | ski | is debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso older than debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso ? |
| 14:49.51 | greycat | mmiikkee12: you need "cp -ax", and you need it *YESTERDAY* |
| 14:49.54 | uedauhes | greycat: see antgel__ |
| 14:50.05 | antgel__ | ski: depends :) |
| 14:50.05 | greycat | antgel__: but there is no 2.4.29 in sarge. |
| 14:50.07 | mmiikkee12 | what's -ax do? |
| 14:50.14 | greycat | mmiikkee12: man cp |
| 14:50.15 | asg | mmiikkee12: read the manpage |
| 14:50.21 | antgel__ | greycat: that's why his install iso is "odd" |
| 14:50.26 | uedauhes | greycat: that is what appears in /lib/modules |
| 14:50.27 | xet7 | streuner: so I need to install packages from DVD |
| 14:50.39 | mmiikkee12 | not in linux right now, but i'll check it |
| 14:50.41 | antgel__ | greycat: tries to modprobe network, but fails due to version tomfoolery |
| 14:50.46 | greycat | uedauhes: what file did you actually download? |
| 14:50.47 | valdyn | mmiikkee12: i'd recommend you do something else to use your spare space, moving debian isnt *that* trivial as i said |
| 14:50.52 | streuner | xet7: are you using a hardware-router? |
| 14:51.11 | antgel__ | mmiikkee12: cp -ax / /mnt/whatever |
| 14:51.21 | ski | antgel : hm .. the testing is downloaded 2005-06-10 .. when was sarge released ? |
| 14:51.24 | mmiikkee12 | yeah, but i mainly use debian, so i'd like to use it on my primary partition |
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| 14:51.32 | antgel__ | !tell ski about sarge |
| 14:51.49 | valdyn | mmiikkee12: you know you can spread debian about many partitions? |
| 14:51.50 | mmiikkee12 | how hard would it be to move /usr and /home to there? |
| 14:52.03 | mmiikkee12 | those are the ones i need more space for |
| 14:52.04 | greycat | mmiikkee12: both? split it apart first. |
| 14:52.06 | uedauhes | greycat: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd3.1_roa/i386/bt.cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso.torrent |
| 14:52.09 | antgel__ | mmiikkee12: ooh, quite hard |
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| 14:52.28 | funky | hi |
| 14:52.29 | mmiikkee12 | nm, i'll just use that as extra space... |
| 14:52.33 | antgel__ | uedauhes: have you tried installing 2.6? |
| 14:52.40 | funky | whats the correct way to downgrade a package ? |
| 14:52.48 | antgel__ | !tell funky about downgrade |
| 14:52.57 | streuner | funky: dpkg -i <package> |
| 14:53.04 | uedauhes | antgel__: what is procedure for that? linux26 at splash screen? |
| 14:53.10 | antgel__ | funky: sorry, that's more about a distro downgrade |
| 14:53.12 | greycat | stupid web sites! http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd3.1_roa/i386/bt.cd/ gives me a not-found error. |
| 14:53.14 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i believe so |
| 14:53.16 | funky | antgel__: thx |
| 14:53.24 | mmiikkee12 | dpkg --force -i package.de |
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| 14:53.27 | mmiikkee12 | *.deb |
| 14:53.33 | funky | mmiikkee12: using apt |
| 14:53.35 | antgel__ | not *.deb surely |
| 14:53.52 | funky | antgel__: maybe modifying the priority in apt preferences |
| 14:53.54 | greycat | EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PATH on that URL gives me a not-found until I strip it all the way down to the hostname. |
| 14:53.59 | mmiikkee12 | dpkg --force -i package.deb |
| 14:54.00 | uedauhes | antgel__: I did that and it installed ... but then when my machine rebooted and it failed ... I checked kernel version and it was 2.4 |
| 14:54.07 | streuner | greycat: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 14:54.14 | valdyn | funky: you cant do it with apt, you dont need --force for it. |
| 14:54.22 | xet7 | streuner: that PC is at work, triend to install BDI/EMC, same thing with knoppix that it doesn't go to net. That PC is behind firewall, and can't even from windows get to irc. But on windows networking works with DHCP. |
| 14:54.23 | ski | (antgel__ : i was going to install debian (first time), so i got the 3.1 version, then noticed the testing .. and wondered if i should use that instead) |
| 14:54.24 | greycat | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 14:54.28 | greycat | That one works. |
| 14:54.44 | mmiikkee12 | uh... to make it install even though you have a newer version? |
| 14:54.48 | antgel__ | uedauhes: hmm. afaik, a linux26 install also installs 2.6 as the default kernel. perhaps someone will confirm |
| 14:54.52 | ski | (antgel__ : i.e. i noticed the testing already lying on harddisk) |
| 14:54.55 | greycat | uedauhes: you lied to us. |
| 14:54.57 | uedauhes | greycat: sorry typed it in |
| 14:55.41 | streuner | xet7: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 14:55.44 | greycat | why would anyone type in a URL that long? |
| 14:55.50 | antgel__ | ski: it's up to you as to whether you install stable, testing or whatever. where do you want to go today? |
| 14:55.51 | uedauhes | greycat: here is copy paste |
| 14:55.57 | uedauhes | greycat: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 14:56.07 | streuner | xet7: i dunno if apt-cdrom add work for DVD's |
| 14:56.16 | greycat | uedauhes: I'd ask #debian-boot if the torrent images are broken in some way... |
| 14:56.25 | ski | antgel__ : get a working system :) .. maybe install some progdev packages etc .. |
| 14:56.54 | antgel__ | ski: i'd use stable, unless you have a good reason not to or you're experienced with debian. |
| 14:57.02 | ski | ok |
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| 14:57.19 | Guerin | progdev? |
| 14:57.22 | uedauhes | antgel__, greycat: thx for help ... ill go there |
| 14:57.23 | xet7 | streuner: so how do I install packages from those dvd:s? or should I just use apt-mirror? |
| 14:57.45 | valdyn | xet7: run apt-setup |
| 14:57.47 | ski | (that means, either the testing is pre-sarge, so i don't use it, or it is sarge-testing, so i don't use it (for now) either :) |
| 14:57.50 | antgel__ | ski: otherwise when you come here for support, i tell you to stick it :P |
| 14:57.59 | Guerin | ski: eh? |
| 14:58.10 | ski | Guerin : program development .. some compilers and interpreters, more specifically |
| 14:58.10 | Guerin | testing is etch. stable is sarge. |
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| 14:58.38 | antgel__ | ski: you can always upgrade from stable once the system is installed. most unstable users are people who need to have the latest thing, or DDs, or me :) |
| 14:58.52 | greycat | !sid |
| 14:58.52 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 14:58.53 | Guerin | !sid faq |
| 14:58.54 | dpkg | from memory, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
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| 14:59.37 | Guerin | well, pigeon remains alive, aafter having its brain tumour removed |
| 14:59.39 | ski | (antgel__ : DD ?) |
| 14:59.48 | antgel__ | ski: debian developer |
| 15:00.09 | ski | !etch |
| 15:00.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 15:00.13 | greycat | another hint: if you have to ask what all the acronyms mean, you're not ready for sid yet. |
| 15:00.13 | antgel__ | hey, can anyone tell me how to downgrade from unstable to stable? ;D |
| 15:00.21 | greycat | antgel__: reinstall |
| 15:00.21 | Guerin | antgel__: beatings |
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| 15:01.37 | antgel__ | !beat me |
| 15:01.56 | antgel__ | ok, how can i tell if i'm now running stable :P |
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| 15:02.26 | greycat | antgel__: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 15:03.27 | tuomas_ | i think it would result in a lot faster operation |
| 15:03.30 | syntaxx | i got problem in my sound in my windows the socket of my speaker is in the green color but when i switch on debian sound output is in pink color why is that? |
| 15:03.41 | tuomas_ | a lot less stress in the disk bus etc etc |
| 15:04.29 | valdyn | tuomas_: why should the 'base' system residing on a faster than harddisk medium be relevant for performance? |
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| 15:04.46 | aeacides | syntaxx: that sounds insane, but if true you must have a problem with the driver |
| 15:04.53 | Guerin | tuomas_: the important bits live in ram anyway |
| 15:05.04 | Guerin | doesn't get much faster than that |
| 15:05.07 | syntaxx | aeacides, its true though |
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| 15:05.23 | syntaxx | aeacides, what file do i need to check for it? |
| 15:05.52 | aeacides | sorry, I'm new too. |
| 15:05.54 | Guerin | aeacides: funky, pink should be mic input |
| 15:06.06 | syntaxx | ic |
| 15:06.06 | Guerin | aeacides: what driver are you using? |
| 15:06.08 | aeacides | I don't know the file |
| 15:06.09 | FieldySnuts | those colors aren't standardized or anything |
| 15:06.15 | Guerin | yeah, they are |
| 15:06.16 | syntaxx | Guerin, its me not aeacides |
| 15:06.21 | Guerin | oh |
| 15:06.27 | Guerin | i mean |
| 15:06.37 | antgel__ | ok, is there any way to install debian on a box with no cd-rom, broken usb, no floppy? perhaps loadlin-based or is it too painful? |
| 15:06.46 | Guerin | it's not like any green socet is automatically line-out, but it's usually thee case |
| 15:06.58 | cfan | can some one tell me where i can download the mingw tarball to produce windows exe i debian.. please dont suggest apt-get.. i want a tarball since i have many other flavours of linux |
| 15:06.59 | Lanix | is avery body getting a hole buntch of priv ? |
| 15:07.00 | Guerin | !rube goldberg install |
| 15:07.01 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 15:07.08 | aeacides | Guerin: but he says green is line-out when running windows |
| 15:07.12 | Guerin | Lanix: no, because we're all +E |
| 15:07.15 | valdyn | antgel__: probably easieset to remove the harddisk, put it elsewhere, install debian, put harddisk back |
| 15:07.15 | syntaxx | Guerin, my soundcard is AC'97 codec built in |
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| 15:07.33 | Guerin | syntaxx: doesn't answer the question of which driver you're using |
| 15:07.38 | Guerin | aeacides: yes |
| 15:07.42 | antgel__ | Guerin: can i not wire in the flux capacitor? |
| 15:08.01 | Guerin | antgel__: you need to make sure your whorls are properly sploffled as well |
| 15:08.05 | cfan | in* |
| 15:08.08 | wols_ | antgel__: network boot |
| 15:08.10 | syntaxx | Guerin, auto detect by kernel |
| 15:08.19 | Lanix | Guerin: +E ? |
| 15:08.24 | tuomas_ | valdyn, Guerin because an fpga is also a processor, it can preprocess any commands through the base system in the cpu, and there is no cpu needed for operations concerning the base system |
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| 15:08.27 | Guerin | syntaxx: cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 15:08.32 | Guerin | Lanix: /topic |
| 15:08.34 | antgel__ | wols_: nope, there's no other machines on the site |
| 15:08.43 | bored2k | what's do i need to install to get gtk+-2.0 ? |
| 15:08.49 | syntaxx | Guerin, it says no soundcard lol |
| 15:08.54 | Guerin | antgel__: remove HDD, put in another machine, install debian, replace hdd. |
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| 15:08.56 | greycat | bored2k: you want the -dev |
| 15:08.58 | antgel__ | bored2k: if you're that bored, apt-cache search gtk |
| 15:08.59 | wols_ | antgel__: then how are you planning to get the debian files onto the harddisk? |
| 15:09.12 | Guerin | syntaxx: then you're using OSS, which is deprecated in 2.6 kernels |
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| 15:09.29 | syntaxx | Guerin, ic |
| 15:09.34 | syntaxx | thanks |
| 15:09.42 | antgel__ | wols_: that was my question. i have established that the best method could be to open the disc and use a small magnet to get all the 1s and 0s in the right places |
| 15:09.51 | Guerin | tuomas_: we're talking about fractions of fractions of seconds, aren't we? |
| 15:09.55 | Lanix | Guerin: is not working for me ? |
| 15:09.56 | valdyn | tuomas_: oh. all you have to do is port linux to your fpga? |
| 15:10.04 | tuomas_ | Guerin, very important bits and pieces |
| 15:10.08 | syntaxx | Lanix, you need to register on nickserv 1st |
| 15:10.08 | Guerin | Lanix: i am very sorry to hear that. |
| 15:10.10 | valdyn | tuomas_: s/have/want/ |
| 15:10.20 | Lanix | i am |
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| 15:10.22 | bored2k | greycat, thnx, ill try that out |
| 15:10.26 | tuomas_ | valdyn that's what i'm trying at the moment |
| 15:10.43 | wols_ | antgel__: do what Guerin said |
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| 15:10.44 | Guerin | antgel__: better to write them down on something really flexible |
| 15:10.58 | Lanix | omg |
| 15:11.10 | rm-r | i am looking for a vectorial graphic program, wich is better (i know Sodipodi, Skenci, Karbon14)? |
| 15:11.21 | Guerin | antgel__: like ... lycra. Stretch it out reeeeeeeeallly far and write the 0s and 1s on with a very fine pen ... then unstretch it and it'll be small enough to use as a harddisk |
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| 15:11.43 | Guerin | !better |
| 15:11.43 | dpkg | it has been said that better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 15:11.53 | Guerin | rm-r: suck them and see what flavour you like |
| 15:11.55 | antgel__ | Guerin: i don't know why i didn't think of that. i'm also going to wire up a plant to my motherboard as extra ram. |
| 15:12.00 | Lanix | * Debian :That channel doesn't exist <<<<<, thasts what i get |
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| 15:12.05 | Guerin | antgel__: a plant? |
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| 15:12.25 | Guerin | antgel__: i think you want a male sheep |
| 15:12.35 | antgel__ | Guerin: yep. one of those mimosa pudicas whose leaves fold on touch. |
| 15:12.40 | greycat | Guerin: can I get a EWE Disk instead? |
| 15:12.47 | Lanix | ok |
| 15:12.50 | antgel__ | Guerin: no, a female human |
| 15:12.50 | Lanix | got it |
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| 15:13.00 | syntaxx | question is your font size in Xchat or any browser is big? |
| 15:13.00 | Guerin | greycat: hey, buddy, if you can find a port to plug it in, go wild |
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| 15:13.08 | tuomas_ | Guerin, valdyn, if we also put applciation-specific libs in an fpga, it results in a lot faster execution |
| 15:13.11 | Lanix | thks i just got back from work and i saw all thouse msg |
| 15:13.13 | Lanix | thx Guerin |
| 15:13.17 | antgel__ | suggest you paste errors somewhere |
| 15:13.26 | Guerin | antgel__: that's not a ram |
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| 15:13.39 | antgel__ | tuomas_: do you have a good reason to do this? |
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| 15:13.44 | tuomas_ | yes |
| 15:13.49 | syntaxx | Guerin, question is your font size in Xchat or any browser is big? |
| 15:13.58 | antgel__ | Guerin: no, but i could ram her |
| 15:14.00 | ofer0 | what packages needed for gnome? i already installed: gnome-desktop-environment, x-window-system, gdm & xserver-xorg, and it gives me the error "No screens found". after checking the logs: "Screen found, but no usable configuration detected" |
| 15:14.02 | syntaxx | any appz rather |
| 15:14.06 | tuomas_ | it's possible and it's fun and it puts the computing power of a cluster inside a toaster |
| 15:14.07 | Guerin | syntaxx: i don't use xchat, and my font sizes are all just as I want them to be |
| 15:14.08 | antgel__ | apologies to any females here by some fluke |
| 15:14.14 | brian__ | I downloaded the divx codec....the file is encore.h.....how do I install it? |
| 15:14.15 | Guerin | antgel__: ... |
| 15:14.18 | valdyn | tuomas_: this is a bullshit idea, and its vastle complex. |
| 15:14.22 | Guerin | brian__: you don't |
| 15:14.24 | ofer0 | oh, and i did "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 15:14.28 | valdyn | tuomas_: this is a bullshit idea, and its vastly complex. |
| 15:14.31 | tuomas_ | why is it bullshit? |
| 15:14.37 | syntaxx | Guerin, ic what do i need to read for it? |
| 15:14.44 | CyaNox | I have a minor annoynce that one of you might help me with ... iptables throws some notices to the syslog ... thats ok ... whats not ok is that it outputs it into the current console ... which is rather annoying. |
| 15:14.45 | brian__ | then what do I do with it? |
| 15:14.48 | antgel__ | tuomas_: it's a worse idea than the avian rfc |
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| 15:14.53 | tuomas_ | it's just embedding the stable components of the os on a chip |
| 15:15.00 | mmiikkee12 | !qotd5 |
| 15:15.00 | dpkg | methinks qotd5 is <antgel__>wols_: that was my question. i have established that the best method could be to open the disc and use a small magnet to get all the 1s and 0s in the right places |
| 15:15.01 | Guerin | brian__: if you want divx codecs, you get libavcodec* and w32codecs and so on from marillat or elsewhere |
| 15:15.06 | Thunder000 | is there a security apt-get repository for sid ? |
| 15:15.19 | greycat | !pal Thunder000 |
| 15:15.25 | antgel__ | Thunder000: you'll be lucky |
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| 15:15.32 | tuomas_ | why should an os and application libraries be on a disk anyway? |
| 15:15.45 | Guerin | tuomas_: then you have to construct a chip that can understand c binaries, and perl and bash scripts, and so on ... |
| 15:15.45 | greycat | so you can UPDATE them. |
| 15:15.54 | antgel__ | tuomas_: tell you what. go an do it then make a webpage with pictures on and point us to it. :) |
| 15:16.02 | tuomas_ | lol |
| 15:16.06 | scarynetworkguy | !unix philosophy |
| 15:16.06 | dpkg | i guess unix philosophy is http://www.scarynetworkguy.net |
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| 15:16.32 | tuomas_ | c binaries can be ported on an fpga even now |
| 15:16.37 | Thunder000 | if i do apt-get dist-upgrade from sarge to sid ... will it upgrade the kernel also ?? |
| 15:16.44 | scarynetworkguy | tuomas_: Greater Tenet 4 and Lesser Tenet 9 |
| 15:16.45 | Guerin | tuomas_: how about perl and bash? they're both pretty critical to debian |
| 15:16.48 | antgel__ | Thunder000: no and read the manual please |
| 15:17.14 | Guerin | Thunder000: DO NOT upgrade from sarge to sid |
| 15:17.18 | scarynetworkguy | tuomas_: Read and grok those. |
| 15:17.20 | tuomas_ | bash can be ported as an extension, with a library |
| 15:17.24 | antgel__ | haha |
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| 15:17.30 | Guerin | tuomas_: proof |
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| 15:17.55 | Danamania | ok - this is the error I'm getting when trying to install phpmyadmin, for example - it happens with some other packages as well. http://www.danamania.com:8080/deberror.txt |
| 15:17.56 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: why don't they start at 0? |
| 15:17.57 | Thunder000 | Guerin: why not |
| 15:18.04 | tuomas_ | dunno, i've seen brainfuck as a library before, why not bash |
| 15:18.09 | Guerin | Thunder000: because it WILL fuck you up |
| 15:18.21 | Thunder000 | antgel__: which manual ? |
| 15:18.29 | antgel__ | !tell Thunder000 about reference |
| 15:18.34 | antgel__ | !tell Thunder000 about unstable |
| 15:18.37 | tuomas_ | perl, i think that perl can be perted, it just demands some extra work |
| 15:18.45 | uedauhes | anget__: http download is identical to torrent download :( |
| 15:18.46 | Thunder000 | Thanks |
| 15:18.49 | Guerin | s/some/insane amounts of/ |
| 15:18.51 | uedauhes | angel__: http download is identical to torrent download :( |
| 15:19.01 | uedauhes | antgel__: http download is identical to torrent download :( |
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| 15:19.05 | uedauhes | finally lol |
| 15:19.07 | antgel__ | uedauhes: really. now that's interesting. |
| 15:19.10 | antgel__ | !echo |
| 15:19.10 | dpkg | ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...cho...ho...o....... |
| 15:19.11 | FieldySnuts | ~stfu uedauhes |
| 15:19.15 | jdhutchin1 | uedauhes, no, it's not |
| 15:19.16 | uedauhes | :P |
| 15:19.29 | antgel__ | he means in terms of his "issue" |
| 15:19.33 | FieldySnuts | either get the http download, or we won't support you (because we didn't make the torrent), simple as that |
| 15:19.34 | tuomas_ | all i need for that is the logic of perl, and that's just reading the book. i could write it in vhdl |
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| 15:19.42 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Heh. They should yes but they came to me from somebody who knows far more than I in that form so I left them. |
| 15:19.52 | antgel__ | uedauhes: hold on, did you actually _try_ the http iso? |
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| 15:19.54 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: fair enough. |
| 15:20.03 | Guerin | no |
| 15:20.04 | tuomas_ | then set perl as a library |
| 15:20.05 | Guerin | he lies |
| 15:20.15 | Guerin | tuomas_: please do! |
| 15:20.17 | FieldySnuts | fuck you. |
| 15:20.31 | uedauhes | antgel__: no I did a diff on the iso images |
| 15:20.32 | antgel__ | don't remove the stick, he doesn't like it |
| 15:20.34 | tuomas_ | flegmatism rules.... |
| 15:20.42 | Guerin | antgel__: no, HE definitely dooes not |
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| 15:21.17 | tuomas_ | i just am trying to do sth new... and get opinions |
| 15:21.33 | Angel-SL | hi how do i use apt-get purge |
| 15:21.33 | Guerin | tuomas_: it sounds like an insane amount of work for extremely small gain |
| 15:21.37 | uedauhes | antgel__: http and torrent iso images are identical |
| 15:21.43 | antgel__ | uedauhes: hmm. clearly that doesn't bode well. try it anyway please both with 2.4 and 2.6. actually don't bother with 2.4. i am confused that you did a 2.6 install before and it booted into 2.4. are you _sure_? |
| 15:21.48 | daos | does exim have a webmail package? |
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| 15:22.00 | FieldySnuts | no, exim doesn't have anything at all to do with that |
| 15:22.07 | greycat | daos: a webmail is MTA-independent. |
| 15:22.07 | Guerin | daos: no, because exim is a smtp server, not a mail client. |
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| 15:22.07 | uedauhes | antgel__: I could easily have made a mistake ... Ill try again |
| 15:22.15 | uedauhes | antgel__: wrt to 2.6 that is |
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| 15:22.26 | tuomas_ | Guerin not really, it provides reliability, and in university of edinburgh there's even a prototype about such system, and they said that the major advantage is the amount of pwer you can pack in an extremely small space |
| 15:22.37 | Angel-SL | hello? |
| 15:22.38 | Guerin | tuomas_: oh really. |
| 15:22.42 | Angel-SL | nvm |
| 15:22.46 | uedauhes | antgel__: Let me check online to verify that typing linux2.6 is the way to do it |
| 15:22.58 | Guerin | uedauhes: BELIEVE US |
| 15:23.01 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i'm not sure, i haven't done it myself. but i would definitely predict that a 2.6 install leaves the user in 2.6 |
| 15:23.10 | antgel__ | is it 2.6 or 26? |
| 15:23.12 | Guerin | uedauhes: we have all done this before, some of us dozens of times |
| 15:23.14 | FieldySnuts | ignore him already, he's not willing to do what we ask |
| 15:23.15 | antgel__ | !install 2.6 |
| 15:23.19 | Guerin | linux26 |
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| 15:23.26 | Guerin | as per the FUCKING BOOT SCREEN |
| 15:23.30 | Guerin | you twats |
| 15:23.33 | mmiikkee12 | !linux26 |
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| 15:23.37 | tuomas_ | Guerin they said that the biggest profits of such systems are putting the power of a new multiprocessor server inside a handheld, o making better communication satellites |
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| 15:23.42 | Angel-SL | !purge |
| 15:23.42 | uedauhes | Why is everyone here so damn angry |
| 15:23.42 | dpkg | well, purge is to complete wipe away a package, including its config files. Use apt-get remove --purge [package]..or if you allready removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge $(aptitude search ~c) |
| 15:23.59 | Guerin | uedauhes: why is everyone here so damn stupid |
| 15:24.09 | greycat | uedauhes: because 10 million newbies per day come in here and haven't read the docs, or the FAQ, or what's right in front of their faces. |
| 15:24.10 | Guerin | stop being stupid, I'll stop being angry |
| 15:24.19 | uedauhes | Guerin: yes domain knowledge equates perfectly with intelligence |
| 15:24.30 | Guerin | and then greycat will do a happy dance |
| 15:24.31 | antgel__ | uedauhes: because we don't like people to ask for help till they've tried to help themselves |
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| 15:24.42 | greycat | uedauhes: not being able to read the install guide before installing something *does* count as stupidity. |
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| 15:24.45 | tuomas_ | lol |
| 15:24.49 | uedauhes | all: I tried by myself all day long yesterday |
| 15:24.54 | uedauhes | all: I read everything |
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| 15:25.02 | uedauhes | all: no one here has figured it out yet |
| 15:25.05 | FieldySnuts | he just didn't / cannot comprehend it |
| 15:25.05 | Guerin | uedauhes: ability to follow simple instructions, apply deductive reasoning and utilise resources efficiently is what I get angry about |
| 15:25.09 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i was normal too when i discovered this channel |
| 15:25.11 | valdyn | uedauhes: and you just lied. |
| 15:25.13 | jzono1 | I've got nfs problems on my debian router |
| 15:25.15 | greycat | 11:25 There is no such nick all |
| 15:25.19 | greycat | who's he talking to? |
| 15:25.21 | FieldySnuts | ~seen all |
| 15:25.25 | apt | all <I=ke6isf@hibachi.chez-vrolet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 15d 21h 9m 51s ago, saying: 'Hello romaxa'. |
| 15:25.26 | tuomas_ | sometimes documentation is bullshit |
| 15:25.31 | FieldySnuts | tuomas_: more often, users are morons |
| 15:25.34 | greycat | tuomas_: only one way to find out. |
| 15:25.34 | uedauhes | all: how did I lie? |
| 15:25.36 | antgel__ | uedauhes: example. you said you installed 2.6. then you said you weren't sure. you also gave us a dodgy link. |
| 15:25.42 | Guerin | tuomas_: the install guide, however, is not one of those cases |
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| 15:26.02 | FieldySnuts | greycat: the initial problem is that he got the install iso from some unofficial torrent, he was told to get the one from debian and won't |
| 15:26.03 | jzono1 | like, nfs mounting works fine, and stuff works as root, but as normal users nfs mounted dirs give problems |
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| 15:26.07 | jzono1 | anyone care to help me? |
| 15:26.08 | tuomas_ | well, the users shouldn't be the ones installing anything |
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| 15:26.17 | uedauhes | antgel__: and why shouldnt 2.4 have worked |
| 15:26.19 | greycat | FieldySnuts: so he even lied about which torrent URL he used? |
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| 15:26.28 | antgel__ | he claimed that he got the torrent from debian, i thought |
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| 15:26.32 | tuomas_ | the ones who already know should do it for the users, as the users desire |
| 15:26.33 | Guerin | jzono1: please be more vague |
| 15:26.37 | FieldySnuts | i don't know about lying, i think he's just incapable of comprehending a lot of things |
| 15:26.43 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i don't fucking know, but please try 2.6 and stop trying to flog a dead horse |
| 15:26.44 | Guerin | jzono1: we're suffering information overload here |
| 15:26.45 | greycat | jzono1: synchronize your UIDs |
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| 15:26.51 | jzono1 | greycat, already done |
| 15:27.01 | jzono1 | user is jo on both server & client |
| 15:27.03 | greycat | jzono1: /msg dpkg vagueness |
| 15:27.03 | uedauhes | greycat: I didnt lie ... I had bad intel |
| 15:27.07 | jzono1 | both uids=1000 |
| 15:27.16 | antgel__ | jzono1: it's all to do with things |
| 15:27.20 | greycat | uedauhes: get an AMD. |
| 15:27.25 | antgel__ | !tell jzono1 about ask |
| 15:27.25 | jzono1 | ls crashforsk/ |
| 15:27.26 | jzono1 | ls: crashforsk/FLAC: Input/output error |
| 15:27.31 | greycat | jzono1: dmesg |
| 15:27.33 | mentor | oh hmm |
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| 15:27.46 | greycat | jzono1: disk is failing or network is fucked up (duplex mismatch, etc.) |
| 15:27.50 | jzono1 | nope |
| 15:27.52 | madclicker | whats with all the spam? |
| 15:27.53 | jzono1 | not at all |
| 15:27.55 | kikinovak | Hi. Q: How do I increase the timeout time on commands? For example, when I'm disconnected, 'ping www.google.com' gives up after 20 seconds. (Unknown host). So how could I increase that timeout to, say, 40 seconds? |
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| 15:27.57 | antgel__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.03 | jzono1 | works 100% as root |
| 15:28.08 | greycat | kikinovak: that's your DNS server |
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| 15:28.25 | syntaxx | what do i need to read to change my X application font |
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| 15:28.39 | antgel__ | jzono1: we need less detail. something like "i tried it and it's borked" |
| 15:28.40 | greycat | syntaxx: your app's man page |
| 15:28.42 | jzono1 | i don't wanna run bitchx fserve as root, so i need to fix this thing |
| 15:28.50 | jzono1 | antgel__, ooh? |
| 15:28.56 | wols_ | greycat: sure it's not the resolver library? |
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| 15:29.06 | antgel__ | jzono1: aah |
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| 15:29.30 | jzono1 | so, nobody got a clue? |
| 15:29.32 | kikinovak | greycat well I don't have a DNS server running. I use my ISP's (tiscali.fr) DNS |
| 15:29.39 | FieldySnuts | jzono1: around here, unlikely |
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| 15:29.40 | greycat | jzono1: you rejected mine. |
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| 15:29.55 | antgel__ | jzono1: how are we to have a clue when you haven't given us a clue? |
| 15:30.05 | FieldySnuts | ~clue jzono1 |
| 15:30.06 | apt | ACTION fans out Vegas-style a stack of clues for jzono1 "Pick one, any one! ...and don't show it to me." |
| 15:30.06 | jzono1 | antgel, havent i? |
| 15:30.08 | Guerin | i/o errors happen at a layer well below permissions |
| 15:30.18 | jzono1 | yeah, i know that |
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| 15:30.40 | jzono1 | but, is getting io errors only when i'm not root normal? |
| 15:30.50 | BriceLobet | hi everybody |
| 15:30.53 | greycat | READ FUCKING DMESG!!! |
| 15:30.53 | Guerin | jzono1: are you trying to access the same resources as root and as user? |
| 15:31.04 | jzono1 | yes |
| 15:31.06 | wols_ | kikinovak: what makes you think it will find a host when it couldn't get an answer from the server after 20 seconds? |
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| 15:31.15 | jzono1 | greycat, dmensg says nothing about it |
| 15:31.21 | wols_ | if you have lag that extreme, you can just as well give up |
| 15:31.22 | jzono1 | *dmesg |
| 15:31.28 | greycat | jzono1: on both server AND cilent? |
| 15:31.42 | jzono1 | svc: unknown version (3) |
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| 15:31.45 | jzono1 | on server |
| 15:31.48 | jzono1 | thats it? |
| 15:31.50 | greycat | did you verify that the network's speed and duplex are set correctly? |
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| 15:31.56 | FieldySnuts | cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf-last && echo "nameserver 4.2.2.1" > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 15:31.58 | FieldySnuts | try again |
| 15:32.00 | greycat | is Cisco involved in this picture IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? |
| 15:32.05 | jzono1 | greycat, um, yes |
| 15:32.07 | jzono1 | greycat, no |
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| 15:32.17 | FieldySnuts | which one |
| 15:32.17 | greycat | then you have a New Problem that I've never seen. |
| 15:32.20 | kikinovak | wols_ I have a small home network, one desktop and two laptops. I use pppd with dial-on-demand. Problem: modem takes about 35 seconds to establish the connection. Hence my desire to increase timeout. |
| 15:32.20 | greycat | Congratulations. |
| 15:32.23 | asuffield | haha, cisco |
| 15:32.33 | jzono1 | greycat, the client is my router, the same router i'm connected through to the net |
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| 15:33.01 | asuffield | greycat: that error looks like mismatched nfsv2 and nfsv3 somewhere, to me |
| 15:33.04 | wols_ | that's awfully long. I use pppoe with DoD as well |
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| 15:33.18 | wols_ | hmm... you'd need to patch your resolver library I'd say |
| 15:33.19 | FieldySnuts | DoD? Department of Defense? |
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| 15:33.32 | wols_ | FieldySnuts: Dial on Demand |
| 15:33.35 | ski | FieldySnuts : prolly dial-on-demand |
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| 15:34.00 | greycat | the FIRST DNS lookup that you do with a dial-on-demand set up is sacrificial. you EXPECT it to fail. |
| 15:34.16 | kikinovak | wols_ no pppoe around here. I live in the south french countryside, only 56 k:o/ |
| 15:34.18 | greycat | that's why you need to have at least two DNS servers listed, so it'll move on to the second and maybe work. |
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| 15:34.32 | kikinovak | greycat ah I see |
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| 15:34.39 | FieldySnuts | i gave one already, guess i was just wasting my time |
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| 15:34.52 | kikinovak | greycat or maybe the same DNS entry repeated once or twice... |
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| 15:34.58 | greycat | maybe. |
| 15:35.06 | FieldySnuts | damn. very severe storm just showed up bye |
| 15:35.10 | FieldySnuts | not good |
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| 15:35.31 | kikinovak | greycat I'll check this out... (have to disconnect first... see ya and thanks) |
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| 15:35.45 | w1ng | hi |
| 15:35.50 | w1ng | (again) |
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| 15:36.08 | w1ng | how do i send broadcast messages to all users? |
| 15:36.14 | Guerin | wall |
| 15:36.15 | greycat | wall |
| 15:36.18 | remyforbes777 | hey whats the deal with the SEveas chat |
| 15:36.18 | w1ng | thx |
| 15:36.21 | greycat | for some definition of users |
| 15:36.27 | asuffield | email |
| 15:36.32 | Guerin | or you could use this wonderful invenmtion called 'email' |
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| 15:37.06 | henke | streuner, looking through the logs there is no suspect information. It does mount instantly with -o nolock though. Something wrong with lockd? |
| 15:37.08 | ambrose | join-spam from: cizmeli (n=fundaa_@82.159.13.241), ela_gozlu22 (n=go_nen_l@62.204.134.223) and HaYLaZCoCuK (n=promethe@AC9349CD.ipt.aol.com) |
| 15:37.19 | Guerin | !topicsmite ambrose |
| 15:37.20 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon ambrose. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 15:37.24 | jzono1 | so, i plugged in & out some usb keyboard, after unmounting the nfs share, then i mounted it & did a ls in it as user jo, this is what server dmesg gave after that: |
| 15:37.25 | jzono1 | usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 4 |
| 15:37.25 | jzono1 | nfsd: last server has exited |
| 15:37.25 | jzono1 | nfsd: unexporting all filesystems |
| 15:37.25 | jzono1 | svc: unknown version (3) |
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| 15:37.26 | scenestar | what is this thing you call "email" |
| 15:37.27 | uedauhes | antgel__: ok typed linux26 at splash screen, installer loaded 2.6. When machine rebooted set up accounts, then apt failed due to no net connection |
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| 15:37.29 | remyforbes777 | whats the deal with seveas |
| 15:37.34 | Guerin | jzono1: you fucking muppet |
| 15:37.36 | jzono1 | sorry for flood |
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| 15:37.45 | Guerin | !htfswk remyforbes777 |
| 15:37.46 | dpkg | remyforbes777: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 15:37.53 | uedauhes | antgel__: when it asked me what media to use selected cancel, then stated shell |
| 15:38.08 | uedauhes | antgel__: typed uname -a and responsed with: |
| 15:38.10 | ambrose | What, we aren't kicking out the spammers any more? |
| 15:38.20 | uedauhes | antgel__: 2.4.29 #6 |
| 15:38.22 | stew | ambrose: none of those spammers are in the channel |
| 15:38.22 | jzono1 | greycat, um, did that help? |
| 15:38.24 | FieldySnuts | tell you what, you deal with them |
| 15:38.24 | greycat | 11:33 asuffield> greycat: that error looks like mismatched nfsv2 and nfsv3 |
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| 15:38.30 | ambrose | ok, banning them |
| 15:38.31 | jzono1 | okay, is that it? |
| 15:38.39 | FieldySnuts | @any ideas |
| 15:38.39 | ravenbird | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box of string, a little thermal paste, and a dozen rabid goats. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 15:38.40 | Guerin | ambrose: yes, we are |
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| 15:38.41 | stew | ambrose: so there is nothing a channel operator here would do |
| 15:38.50 | ambrose | So, what's this E option? |
| 15:38.51 | Guerin | ambrose: #freenode is on the case |
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| 15:38.58 | antgel__ | uedauhes: what network card you currently using? |
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| 15:39.12 | FieldySnuts | damn, getting sick of answering the same questions about the spammers and E 900 times in one day |
| 15:39.13 | jzono1 | greycat, is it somewhere in the kernel config on my server the error is? |
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| 15:39.14 | stew | ambrose: +E makes it such that only nickserv identified users can /msg you |
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| 15:39.20 | dazedyugo | hello all. |
| 15:39.32 | uedauhes | antgel__: netgear FA311 |
| 15:39.33 | bibe | hello dazedyugo |
| 15:39.35 | dazedyugo | if i have 2GB of ram, is a swap partition really necessary? |
| 15:39.44 | jzono1 | greycat, thanks for enduring my dumb questions & actually helping me a bit |
| 15:39.44 | greycat | dazedyugo: depends on what you run |
| 15:39.44 | Guerin | dazedyugo: deppends |
| 15:39.46 | mikael_ | fscking bots |
| 15:39.49 | uedauhes | antgel__: but why does it appear that 2.6 was not loaded on reboot? |
| 15:39.51 | Guerin | s/pp/p/ |
| 15:39.57 | antgel__ | uedauhes: have you tried modprobing the necessary module? |
| 15:40.05 | ehtom-z | how can I re-run the network configuration thingie (that first runs when you boot debian?) |
| 15:40.08 | dazedyugo | ok, well i'm planning on having the machine be used as a thin client server for maybe 15 workstations |
| 15:40.10 | bibe | dazedyugo : will you use software suspend? |
| 15:40.20 | dazedyugo | bibe: no software suspend |
| 15:40.22 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i don't know. i haven't done an install for years. you only have the one linux install on the box? |
| 15:40.29 | Guerin | dazedyugo: depends what they'll be doing |
| 15:40.38 | uedauhes | antgel__: dual boot w/ XP |
| 15:40.40 | streuner | dpkg, mode e is <reply> +E makes it such that only nickserv identified users can /msg you |
| 15:40.41 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
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| 15:40.46 | Guerin | dazedyugo: might be worth dedicating a couple of gig in case they get out of hand |
| 15:40.51 | findme | someone is opening new tabs with webcamera shit in xchat how can i stop that |
| 15:40.53 | Guerin | disk space is cheap |
| 15:40.58 | greycat | findme: /topic |
| 15:40.58 | ambrose | If you want people to stop asking these questions, maybe make a wiki page that answers them directly instead of saying "invoke this magic incantation but we won't tell you what it means" and put the url to the wiki page in the topic. --just a thought, and it would have worked for me because I did read the topic before I posted but didn't know what E means |
| 15:41.03 | Guerin | findme: don't use xchat |
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| 15:41.07 | antgel__ | uedauhes: do you plan to answer or ignore my question about modprobe? |
| 15:41.15 | FieldySnuts | ambrose: which they won't read anyway. |
| 15:41.19 | dazedyugo | Guerin: can you give me some examples? If the rule is swap should be twice ram size, then I need a 4GB partition ... that's the size of one of the disks in the machine ... |
| 15:41.23 | uedauhes | antgel__: cant open dependencies file |
| 15:41.31 | stew | fgi ambrose irc+modes |
| 15:41.33 | antgel__ | uedauhes: uname -r? |
| 15:41.34 | Guerin | dazedyugo: that rule is lies told to children |
| 15:41.40 | ambrose | FieldySnuts, wrong. I would have read it. |
| 15:41.44 | FieldySnuts | antgel__: he's not using an install iso from an official debian source, i wouldn't bother |
| 15:41.46 | Guerin | dazedyugo: really, it's up to you. |
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| 15:41.48 | uedauhes | antgel__: 2.4.29 |
| 15:41.49 | antgel__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.54 | FieldySnuts | ambrose: you haven't been here long have you? |
| 15:42.01 | antgel__ | uedauhes: what fucking iso is this? |
| 15:42.06 | ambrose | FieldySnuts, you're not very observant, are you? |
| 15:42.06 | findme | Guerin, thanks |
| 15:42.09 | FieldySnuts | he got it off some unofficial torrent |
| 15:42.10 | antgel__ | FieldySnuts: i thought he was |
| 15:42.12 | dazedyugo | antgel__: so how big does swap have to be then? at least size of ram, right? |
| 15:42.16 | FieldySnuts | ambrose: kettle. pot. black. |
| 15:42.19 | greycat | dazedyugo: no. |
| 15:42.23 | antgel__ | dazedyugo: as we keep saying, it _depends_. |
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| 15:42.26 | greycat | dazedyugo: unless you run linux 2.4.9 |
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| 15:42.32 | Guerin | dazedyugo: unless you're using it for suspend, it can be as big or as smmall as you want |
| 15:42.36 | uedauhes | antgel__: netinstall from debian site - correct link to follow ;) |
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| 15:42.45 | dazedyugo | then why would i even need it? |
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| 15:42.56 | greycat | dazedyugo: IF YOU NEED MORE THAN TWO GIGS OF MEMORY!!! |
| 15:42.58 | FieldySnuts | antgel__: he's lying to you, he's already lied to us several times. he said earlier he got it from some torrent which debian doesn't run. |
| 15:42.59 | greycat | jesus! |
| 15:43.13 | ambrose | FieldySnuts, so we're the same :-) that's all right. peace. |
| 15:43.15 | Guerin | dazedyugo: because your users might all be using shitloads of ram at once and your machine might grind to a smoking halt without it? |
| 15:43.25 | dazedyugo | ok, thanks. |
| 15:43.26 | antgel__ | dazedyugo: are you sure you're the right person to set up a 15-user thin client? you can outsource it to my firm if you want |
| 15:43.38 | uedauhes | antgel__: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 15:43.44 | antgel__ | uedauhes: are you fucking lying? |
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| 15:43.53 | dazedyugo | no, i'm just asking a question. thanks, i have the answer now. |
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| 15:43.58 | antgel__ | uedauhes: so this is the http download? |
| 15:43.59 | FieldySnuts | antgel__: he's bullshitted us several times already. stop wasting your efforts. |
| 15:44.02 | uedauhes | antgel__: har har |
| 15:44.06 | uedauhes | antgel__: yes |
| 15:44.10 | FieldySnuts | if he got the http version, he must have a T3. |
| 15:44.13 | Guerin | what a wonderful day it is |
| 15:44.19 | uedauhes | antgel__: burned using nero on XP |
| 15:44.22 | antgel__ | FieldySnuts: it's only a netinst |
| 15:44.28 | streuner | Guerin: hehe |
| 15:44.29 | FieldySnuts | good luck |
| 15:44.39 | Guerin | oh shit |
| 15:44.49 | uedauhes | FieldySnuts: yes I have nothing better to do than come here and waste ppls time |
| 15:44.50 | Guerin | my bro's 25th birthday, and I didn't call him |
| 15:44.55 | uedauhes | FieldySnuts: fucking dickface |
| 15:44.55 | FieldySnuts | oopsie |
| 15:44.58 | Guerin | oh well |
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| 15:45.22 | streuner | Guerin: so what you waiting for? |
| 15:45.32 | FieldySnuts | hehe people around me have learned they can either get mad when I forget theirs (I just don't care), or just accept that it does not mean I don't like them, it just means I don't care about silly things like that |
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| 15:45.42 | Guerin | streuner: it's 0340 on the day after his birthday where he is |
| 15:45.51 | Guerin | though, in fairness, he's probably still out and about |
| 15:45.52 | FieldySnuts | 0345 |
| 15:45.59 | FieldySnuts | 0346 |
| 15:45.59 | Guerin | !date |
| 15:45.59 | dpkg | The current date is Sat Aug 27 15:45:59 2005 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 15:46.02 | FieldySnuts | kthx |
| 15:46.06 | Guerin | wow, my clock IS wrong |
| 15:46.13 | FieldySnuts | ntpdate pool.ntp.org foo!! |
| 15:46.28 | ErikHK | or rdate |
| 15:46.31 | uedauhes | antgel__: I would just dl the full install but I have a feeling it wont make any difference |
| 15:46.36 | FieldySnuts | same thing |
| 15:46.55 | uedauhes | antgel__: I am currently using netstall from the exact same CD on my laptop |
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| 15:47.02 | uedauhes | antgel__: So I know it works |
| 15:47.12 | greycat | uedauhes: no Debian sarge installation has EVER had a 2.4.29 kernel. Yours is clearly not a Debian sarge disc. That's why everyone's pissed off at you. |
| 15:47.17 | uedauhes | antgel__: Just not with the way my desktop is setup |
| 15:47.28 | SimonRaven | 2.4.27, or 2.6.8 |
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| 15:48.09 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i was just fucking wasting my time looking to see if 2.4.29 was in sarge as it sounded fishy. why don't you stop lying, unless you're a troll? |
| 15:48.14 | uedauhes | greycat: dont know what to tell you ... I downloaded as I told you |
| 15:48.21 | somePriest | Anyone know of a decent digital [personal] diary program that records entries in a somewhat human-readable format? |
| 15:48.39 | uedauhes | antgel__: Are you fucking joking ... why would I come here and endure all of this bullshit just to troll |
| 15:49.06 | SimonRaven | it's happened before with other people =;) |
| 15:49.34 | stew | uedauhes: what is the problem you are having, anyway? |
| 15:49.34 | uedauhes | somePriest: blogger.com :P |
| 15:49.42 | antgel__ | uedauhes: you say it's 2.4.29. we know that sarge installs don't have 2.4.29. why should we believe you? |
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| 15:49.48 | greycat | stew: his sarge install has 2.4.29 and therefore the modules don't load |
| 15:49.56 | ricky_clarkson | What's the best way to light a room to use a PC if daylight is not an option? |
| 15:49.56 | uedauhes | stew: netinstall is not recognizing network card |
| 15:50.04 | remyforbes777 | is there a good program to keep track of comic books |
| 15:50.07 | ricky_clarkson | I've currently got a lamp behind my monitor, above on a shelf. |
| 15:50.08 | stew | uedauhes: you are still in the install process? |
| 15:50.10 | greycat | or I should say, "sarge" |
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| 15:50.18 | Dewi | could anyone suggest a media player that has high levels of control - for instance, I want to be able to adjust a/v sync |
| 15:50.18 | somePriest | uedauhes - I don't want a blogger though. I'd like something that, for example, writes XML or similar files to my own local hard disk. |
| 15:50.21 | Dewi | ? |
| 15:50.24 | Guerin | ricky_clarkson: halogen spots in the ceiling |
| 15:50.26 | uedauhes | antgel__: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ if that is sarge then that is what I used |
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| 15:50.30 | FieldySnuts | vi blah.xml |
| 15:50.32 | WhiteRabbit | uedauhes, do you have pnp turned off in the bios |
| 15:50.35 | Guerin | somePriest: emacs |
| 15:50.38 | somePriest | uedauhes, Something searchable. |
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| 15:50.40 | FieldySnuts | Guerin: heh i have one of those from a 500W job |
| 15:50.42 | Guerin | somePriest: or email |
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| 15:50.45 | Dewi | uedauhes: which version netinst are you using? |
| 15:50.49 | uedauhes | stew: yes |
| 15:50.50 | E-bola | Do anybody have experience with software raid-5 in linux? I am curious about the CPU requirements, im wondering what kind of impact it makes under an athlon XP 2200. Would it be doable to use AES encryption on top of the software raid, or would that wipe out performance compeltely? |
| 15:50.54 | somePriest | Guerin, Ya, but that has no builtin in functionality for storing entries in specific dates right? |
| 15:50.55 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: He said decent. :) |
| 15:50.56 | bibe | uedauhes : i have an etch netinstall of August 24, even it ships with 2.4.27 |
| 15:51.06 | Guerin | somePriest: sure it does |
| 15:51.07 | SimonRaven | somePriest: there's various wiki-like or blog-like local only apps. apt-cache search 'em |
| 15:51.09 | antgel__ | uedauhes: grr, that's a fucking different link to what you said at 16:43 |
| 15:51.14 | madclicker | how do i stop the spam on freenode? |
| 15:51.18 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: yes, which is why I didn't suggest vi |
| 15:51.24 | FieldySnuts | ~topicbadger madclicker |
| 15:51.27 | apt | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that madclicker didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 15:51.27 | greycat | madclicker: /topic |
| 15:51.29 | ricky_clarkson | madclicker: /mode username +E |
| 15:51.29 | tuomas_ | madclicker use irssi or bitchx |
| 15:51.30 | SimonRaven | madclicker: you read the /topic |
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| 15:51.37 | ricky_clarkson | !stop spam |
| 15:51.39 | somePriest | SimonRaven, I tried things like `apt-cache serach diary` and `apt-cache search journal`, the later of course wasn't quite as specific as I hoped. |
| 15:51.41 | Guerin | somePriest: blosxom is a format which would be useful in this case |
| 15:51.43 | jetscreamer | wtf is a topic |
| 15:51.48 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 15:51.48 | uedauhes | dewi: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 15:51.51 | antgel__ | cock |
| 15:51.52 | SimonRaven | @dict topic |
| 15:51.52 | Roots | lol |
| 15:51.52 | jetscreamer | is that like a tropic? |
| 15:51.54 | ravenbird | Dictionary 'topic' (1 of 5): some situation or event that is thought about; "he kept drifting off the topic"; "he had been thinking about the subject for several years"; "it is a matter for the police" . |
| 15:51.55 | ricky_clarkson | !stop spam is <reply>/mode username +E |
| 15:51.56 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: okay |
| 15:52.01 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Heh. |
| 15:52.09 | stew | uedauhes: and when you go to a shell with alt-f2 and type "uname -r" in the installer, you get exactly this: "2.4.29" ? |
| 15:52.14 | Guerin | somePriest: it's a weblog app written in perl, but it's really simple and manipulable |
| 15:52.15 | ricky_clarkson | Maybe that would be better to tell them, rather than topicsmiting. |
| 15:52.18 | tuomas_ | lol freenode hasn't been a subject to spam before Microsoft FUDed the GPL |
| 15:52.18 | remyforbes777 | is there a good program out there for keeping track of comic books, i would like to scan the comics cover and enter in the # of the comic and the title |
| 15:52.19 | uedauhes | stew: yes |
| 15:52.21 | SimonRaven | !stop spam |
| 15:52.21 | dpkg | /mode username +E |
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| 15:52.23 | Dewi | uedauhes: aah, okay. That one worked well for me (I had lots of problems with later installers) |
| 15:52.26 | FieldySnuts | tuomas_: um. what? |
| 15:52.29 | Subson1x | http://www.ubuntux.org/poll |
| 15:52.30 | somePriest | Guerin, Ok, thanks. |
| 15:52.32 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: topicsmiting has long-term pay-offs. |
| 15:52.36 | uedauhes | stew: err wait didnt alt-f2 |
| 15:52.45 | greycat | teach a newbie to fish... |
| 15:52.51 | stew | uedauhes: 2.4.29 isn't even a debian kernel, if it were it would have a - in the version string, the portion after the dash is the debian revision, it should be 2.4.27-2 or something |
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| 15:52.55 | uedauhes | stew: got shell by bailing out of install right at apt part |
| 15:52.58 | MaxPower | gnite ppl, thanks for ur help |
| 15:52.59 | FieldySnuts | when in Rome, do as the Germans |
| 15:52.59 | tuomas_ | FieldySnuts i think that the sam is done on purpose here... just to tease pppl around |
| 15:53.00 | FieldySnuts | no wait |
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| 15:53.16 | greycat | FieldySnuts: I'd better go buy some pork. |
| 15:53.16 | stew | uedauhes: what do you mean by bail out? boot it again, and hit alt-f2 |
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| 15:53.24 | FieldySnuts | greycat: and fecal matter |
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| 15:53.30 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Teach a newbie to fish, and the EU will stop you from fishing in your own waters, so that he can do it instead. |
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| 15:53.35 | uedauhes | stew: you can hit cancel when it asks you to select apt media |
| 15:53.40 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: [England and Spain] |
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| 15:53.43 | uedauhes | stew: then you can get a shell from the mneu |
| 15:53.50 | Guerin | uedauhes: at any time, you can hit alt+f2 to get a console |
| 15:53.52 | scarynetworkguy | I should make a "Switch" ad out of that story. |
| 15:53.53 | uedauhes | stew: Ill try alt-f2 |
| 15:53.53 | tuomas_ | Germans, pork, bad taste in wine and music, heavy industrialism, what else? Leather trousers and beer? =D |
| 15:53.57 | Guerin | wihtout quitting anything |
| 15:53.57 | ob1kenewb | hi there, I got a multipart/appledouble mime type, anyone knows how to read/convert it under linux ? |
| 15:54.05 | uedauhes | Guerin: ok thx .... didnt know that |
| 15:54.05 | Guerin | hey, german wine is great |
| 15:54.07 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: sounds like government. |
| 15:54.08 | Guerin | some of it |
| 15:54.17 | Subson1x | ubuntu or debian? vote on http://www.ubuntux.org/poll |
| 15:54.24 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Yes, that's the problem. It only sounds like government. |
| 15:54.33 | Guerin | Subson1x: you will be banned in 5 ...4 ...3 .... |
| 15:54.35 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: no, the problem is it *acts* like government. |
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| 15:54.38 | antgel__ | 2 |
| 15:54.39 | SimonRaven | ob1kenewb: netatalk, man megatron |
| 15:54.42 | Guerin | heh |
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| 15:54.50 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: if it would just make a lot of noise, nobody would care |
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| 15:55.01 | tuomas_ | also Georgian wine... mmm that's my favourite but it's hard to get |
| 15:55.13 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: or doesn't the EU have guns and tanks and missiles and nucular [sic] warheads? |
| 15:55.15 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Like the Green Party? |
| 15:55.26 | Guerin | hahaha |
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| 15:55.30 | tuomas_ | greycat no, only UK and France have |
| 15:55.33 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 15:55.38 | Guerin | irc race conditions strike again |
| 15:55.41 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: I don't think there's an agreement on military in the EU, but member states have some of those weapons. |
| 15:55.59 | scenestar | errr |
| 15:55.59 | uedauhes | stew: 2.4.29 ... dont get it |
| 15:56.06 | scenestar | we have warheads |
| 15:56.06 | ob1kenewb | SimonRaven: thanks! |
| 15:56.08 | tuomas_ | Germany has a history of hosting foreign nukes on it's own territory since 1949 |
| 15:56.10 | scenestar | but if wee use them, were screwed |
| 15:56.14 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: wait... UK has nukes, and EU doesn't, and EU tells the UK not to do something, and the UK *obeys*?? |
| 15:56.21 | scenestar | yup |
| 15:56.24 | WhiteRabbit | germany has already asked the us to remove theres |
| 15:56.27 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Except that last clause, yes. |
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| 15:56.31 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: ah. |
| 15:56.33 | uedauhes | stew: hit alt-f2 when installation program came up after reboot |
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| 15:56.39 | uedauhes | stew: logged in as root |
| 15:56.46 | stew | uedauhes: logged in? |
| 15:56.48 | stew | uedauhes: no |
| 15:56.49 | ricky_clarkson | The problem with France is that they'll surrender their weapons to any rogue state that even *implies* a threat. |
| 15:56.58 | stew | uedauhes: if you hit alt-f2 there should be no login screen |
| 15:56.58 | tuomas_ | well, Germany "asked" USSR also to remove them in 1991, and apparently USSR did remove them |
| 15:56.59 | scenestar | oi, youi filthy warmonger |
| 15:57.06 | stew | uedauhes: not if you booted the install disk |
| 15:57.06 | Guerin | !politics |
| 15:57.06 | dpkg | methinks politics is Yerp. Everyone has their own opinion. Please discuss them elsewhere. This is #debian, not #politics. [If you wanna discuss politics, that's cool, just do it elsewhere.] |
| 15:57.11 | uedauhes | stew: uname -r yields 2.4.29 |
| 15:57.27 | Guerin | uedauhes: yoou don't need to log into an install disk |
| 15:57.32 | uedauhes | stew: Oh shit sorry , thought you mean after initial install ... which is the point that I am at |
| 15:57.33 | Guerin | uedauhes: not a debian install disk, at least |
| 15:57.34 | ricky_clarkson | Politics affects everything. Even the price of a pint of beer. |
| 15:57.37 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: That's because the guys who have the codes for th UKs nukes also know about the EUs secret orbital railgun. |
| 15:57.39 | Guerin | muh |
| 15:57.43 | scarynetworkguy | Oh wait. I've said too much. |
| 15:57.46 | greycat | heh |
| 15:57.46 | WhiteRabbit | Germany is the new golden calf of the EU now |
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| 15:57.53 | uedauhes | stew: So I need to reboot and load OS from CD |
| 15:57.54 | uedauhes | ok |
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| 15:57.56 | tuomas_ | well, French usually use their weapons in "rogue" states against the local civilians, they've done so since Napoleon... |
| 15:57.58 | stew | uedauhes: you either didn't finish the install, or you didn't use a debian install disk and installed something that wasn't debian |
| 15:58.01 | syntaxx | why my X application font size are big? in what docs should i read |
| 15:58.06 | scenestar | hey, ild love to discuss this |
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| 15:58.15 | scenestar | but lets use a new channel for that |
| 15:58.17 | stew | uedauhes: were you installing onto a partition that already had some other linux on it? |
| 15:58.28 | ricky_clarkson | syntaxx: Is this true for xterm, gnome-terminal or konsole? |
| 15:58.35 | uedauhes | stew: no I didnt finish the install because I cant connect to internet to get rest of packages using apt |
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| 15:58.37 | stew | uedauhes: when you are logged in, what does "cat /etc/debian_version" say? |
| 15:58.56 | uedauhes | stew: no I didnt finish the install because I cant connect to internet to get rest of packages using apt |
| 15:59.00 | tchino | how can i domain a own directory over my server to my client with apache? |
| 15:59.00 | uedauhes | stew: 3.1 |
| 15:59.04 | stew | uedauhes: then you need to install again, and finish this time |
| 15:59.13 | Angel-SL | !crontab |
| 15:59.13 | greycat | domain isn't a verb |
| 15:59.13 | dpkg | format: min, hour, day of month, month, day of week, command. or see cron, or see crontab demystified |
| 15:59.15 | Guerin | tchino: please rephrase |
| 15:59.16 | scenestar | uedauhes: is it the repositories |
| 15:59.20 | scenestar | or your own connection |
| 15:59.23 | syntaxx | ricky_clarkson, on X |
| 15:59.28 | stew | uedauhes: i don't know where that kernel came from, but it didn't come from debian, or else it would have a debian revision |
| 15:59.29 | scenestar | otherwise you could just edite your sources list |
| 15:59.38 | uedauhes | stew: I had slack on here but I repartitioned and reformatted when I installed debian |
| 15:59.40 | stew | uedauhes: were you installing on top of a pre-existing linux install |
| 15:59.47 | antgel__ | stew: that's what we keep telling him |
| 15:59.59 | uedauhes | stew: yes but I repartitioned and reformatted as part of the debian install process |
| 16:00.17 | ricky_clarkson | syntaxx: Thanks for being so specific. |
| 16:00.23 | jetscreamer | i've noticed that after 'formatting' ext3 i can still access the data |
| 16:00.39 | uedauhes | stew: ok so I am going to boot from the cd and hit alt+f2 when the spash screen comes up |
| 16:00.43 | uedauhes | stew: correct? |
| 16:00.54 | Guerin | no |
| 16:00.58 | stew | uedauhes: doesn't really matter, it will say 2.4.27-2 |
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| 16:01.01 | syntaxx | ricky_clarkson, oh sorry i thought u where asking it a console font |
| 16:01.11 | stew | uedauhes: what you should do is boot from the installer, and do a complete debian install |
| 16:01.11 | greycat | you have to hit Enter first, and then Alt-F2 when you get the first prompt from d-i |
| 16:01.18 | stew | uedauhes: what network card do you have? |
| 16:01.19 | xai | is there a standard way to set the tcp socket buffer sizes at boot time? |
| 16:01.21 | antgel__ | uedauhes: the module errors you referred to earlier - were they _during_ install or after you quite the install? |
| 16:01.25 | jetscreamer | initializing the ext3 fs doesn't always erase everything |
| 16:01.28 | uedauhes | stew: and just skip the part regarding apt? |
| 16:01.30 | Guerin | uedauhes: you type 'linux26' when the splash comes up, and then hit alt-f2 when the installer starts |
| 16:01.33 | scarynetworkguy | jetscreamer: That's the magic of the flying spaghetti monster. |
| 16:01.34 | Guerin | or what greycat said |
| 16:01.36 | stew | uedauhes: no, don't skip it |
| 16:01.39 | stew | uedauhes: what network card? |
| 16:01.46 | Dewi | does anyone know of a media player that will allow me to tweak a/v sync during playback? |
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| 16:01.48 | uedauhes | stew: netgear FA311 |
| 16:01.56 | jetscreamer | Dewi: xine-ui will |
| 16:01.58 | jetscreamer | aka xine |
| 16:02.03 | jetscreamer | others will too |
| 16:02.04 | stew | fa311 is tulip, right? |
| 16:02.05 | tchino | Guerin: apache2, SSI, own html-file from my server to my client over //http://ownservername.owndomain/~ownuser/ |
| 16:02.06 | Guerin | mplayer > * |
| 16:02.08 | Dewi | jetscreamer: I can't see that in apt |
| 16:02.15 | greycat | That is its NUMBER ONE PROBLEM. |
| 16:02.16 | Dewi | jetscreamer: (on testing) |
| 16:02.18 | mila | hello, can anybody help me where to set the TERM property ? |
| 16:02.25 | greycat | mila: you should never set it. |
| 16:02.25 | asg | greycat: and aptitude |
| 16:02.28 | jetscreamer | Dewi: it's not in etch, but is in testing and stable... and they're the same versions. |
| 16:02.30 | Guerin | tchino: webdav, ftp or scp |
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| 16:02.32 | greycat | asg: well, anything related to those. |
| 16:02.38 | greycat | asg: it should NOT run any of them. |
| 16:02.39 | jetscreamer | and function flawlessly in etch afaict |
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| 16:02.42 | asg | greycat: agreed |
| 16:02.44 | Dewi | jetscreamer: testing == etch? |
| 16:02.47 | Guerin | tchino: can't be done through a plain http setup, since plain http is one-way |
| 16:02.47 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 16:02.55 | greycat | The Debian installer should install the base system and drop the user at a login prompt. |
| 16:02.56 | jetscreamer | errrrr |
| 16:03.01 | stew | uedauhes: run the installer again and FINISH it, including the apt part. if the 2.4 kernel doens't detect your network card (which i believe it should) try the 2.6 kernel by booting with "linux26" at the boot: prompt |
| 16:03.02 | greycat | a CONSOLE fucking login prompt. |
| 16:03.13 | jetscreamer | i meant sid and sarge, unstable and stable, but not in etch/testing |
| 16:03.19 | jetscreamer | sorry |
| 16:03.20 | uedauhes | stew: how do I not skip apt-get portion of install if my nic isnt working |
| 16:03.30 | uedauhes | stew: nic not working is the reason I am here |
| 16:03.34 | antgel__ | stew: he's been told to try 2.6, claims it still installs 2.4 |
| 16:03.37 | stew | uedauhes: if your nic isn't working then you cant use a netinst |
| 16:03.38 | uedauhes | stew: I cant finish install because of it |
| 16:03.39 | tchino | Guerin: i have done it bevor with my old server, but i had a hardware-crash |
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| 16:03.46 | antgel__ | uedauhes: the module errors you referred to earlier - were they _during_ install or after you quite the install? |
| 16:03.46 | uedauhes | stew: nic works in XP |
| 16:03.50 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: Like, oh to pick a random example, OpenBSD? :) |
| 16:03.53 | uedauhes | stew: during |
| 16:03.57 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: yeah, a bit like that! :) |
| 16:03.58 | tchino | Guerin: now i search a short manual over apache |
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| 16:04.01 | stew | uedauhes: if your nick doens't work with 2.4, try 2.6 |
| 16:04.06 | uedauhes | stew: tried it |
| 16:04.09 | xai | I guess /etc/sysctl.conf is a good place to start.. |
| 16:04.11 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: of course an opensbd base system has more stuff than a debian base system does. |
| 16:04.12 | mr_hat | does anyone know what font knoppix uses? |
| 16:04.13 | stew | uedauhes: then you cannot do a netinst |
| 16:04.17 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: Testify brother! |
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| 16:04.27 | uedauhes | stew: linux26 at splash screen |
| 16:04.34 | greycat | opensbd base system has lynx and ssh and bind and httpd |
| 16:04.36 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: True. |
| 16:04.50 | Dewi | jetscreamer: how can it be in stable but not testing? has it been removed? |
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| 16:04.58 | mr_hat | anyone |
| 16:05.04 | asg | mr_hat: beuler, beuler |
| 16:05.05 | Guerin | !test |
| 16:05.06 | dpkg | Sorry, guerin, I didn't get your test. |
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| 16:05.12 | jetscreamer | Dewi: i don't know, silly eh... and the versions that are in unstable and in stable are the same. |
| 16:05.15 | ricky_clarkson | mr_hat: Wrong channel. This channel is about porn. |
| 16:05.17 | abrotman | Dewi: it happens sometimes .. shit breaks .. it's unstable/testing |
| 16:05.19 | uedauhes | stew: Im still wondering why it says the version is 2.4.29 ... which apparently is impossible |
| 16:05.23 | mr_hat | what theme or fonts does knoppix use? |
| 16:05.25 | ricky_clarkson | mr_hat: Wrong channel. This channel is about porn. |
| 16:05.30 | syntaxx | ricky_clarkson, what i mean like in my xchat.. the application font is so big |
| 16:05.30 | abrotman | hey .. where'd the bots go? |
| 16:05.32 | mr_hat | sorry |
| 16:05.32 | psycho | Hey everyone! I need help with outputting German characters in a game I'm playing :( |
| 16:05.32 | asg | mr_hat: ask #knoppix, why would we know |
| 16:05.34 | Guerin | !htfswk mr_hat |
| 16:05.35 | dpkg | mr_hat: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 16:05.44 | greycat | abrotman: I banned several very broad IP address ranges |
| 16:05.45 | stew | uedauhes: its leftover from your slackware |
| 16:05.52 | Guerin | !tell psycho about extended chars |
| 16:05.55 | jetscreamer | !greycat++ |
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| 16:06.02 | uedauhes | stew: Even after I repartioned and reformatted? |
| 16:06.09 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: I stil got a load after those bans (rebooted and forget to /mode ricky_clarkson +E again. |
| 16:06.10 | syntaxx | ricky_clarkson, like font in my toolbar |
| 16:06.17 | ricky_clarkson | syntaxx: What toolbar? |
| 16:06.23 | Dewi | uedauhes: may I suggest |
| 16:06.23 | jetscreamer | uedauhes: yes i've seen that happen even after 'formatting' |
| 16:06.26 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: Oh yeah. And pf. Must not forget pf. |
| 16:06.27 | Dewi | uedauhes: that if you didn't finish install |
| 16:06.31 | jetscreamer | lowlevelformat++ |
| 16:06.32 | Dewi | uedauhes: then grub won't be updated |
| 16:06.41 | Dewi | uedauhes: so it's not going to be booting the new kernel |
| 16:06.44 | abrotman | greycat: ah ok |
| 16:06.46 | stew | uedauhes: you didn't yeat install a bootloader, so the mbr is still from slackare |
| 16:06.47 | uedauhes | Dewi: ah you know what |
| 16:06.48 | psycho | Guerin: Thank you! I've been looking through Google for forever! yay |
| 16:07.06 | uedauhes | Dewi: I did install grub according to the debian install |
| 16:07.12 | stew | uedauhes: if you cannot get your network working during the install you cant do a netinst. period |
| 16:07.12 | uedauhes | Dewi: But lilo comes up |
| 16:07.18 | Dewi | uedauhes: I thought it came right at the end after apt? |
| 16:07.22 | stew | uedauhes: sarge would have installed grub, not lilo |
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| 16:07.29 | uedauhes | stew: that is problem |
| 16:07.36 | Dewi | stew: (you can choose in expert) |
| 16:07.37 | Dewi | stew: but yes |
| 16:07.43 | uedauhes | stew: its using lilo and booting old slackware |
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| 16:07.48 | Guerin | psycho: ¥øú'rë ₩ë₤çøme |
| 16:07.58 | psycho | lol |
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| 16:08.11 | uedauhes | stew: The friendly ppl are apparently also the competent ones =) |
| 16:08.15 | Dewi | maybe a kernel can boot even if it's not properly in a partition because it's directly referenced by sector or something from the bootloader? |
| 16:08.20 | uedauhes | dewi: you as well |
| 16:08.25 | Guerin | uedauhes: that's typically the case |
| 16:08.29 | stew | uedauhes: do you know, or does anyone know, what driver a fa311 uses? |
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| 16:08.31 | stew | natsemi? |
| 16:08.32 | greycat | Dewi: for lilo, yes, that is correct. |
| 16:08.32 | ricky_clarkson | Guerin: "you're what?" |
| 16:08.38 | uedauhes | stew, dewi: thank you both |
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| 16:08.46 | Guerin | ricky_clarkson: ₩ë₤çøme |
| 16:08.50 | uedauhes | stew: I also have a LNE100TX |
| 16:08.54 | ricky_clarkson | !que Guerin |
| 16:08.55 | uedauhes | stew: It uses tulip |
| 16:09.03 | jetscreamer | 20"boxfan_as_a_casefan++ |
| 16:09.06 | tchino | i had a hardware-crash, but i had my old exim3-konfiguration, how can i use this old configuration to the new exim4 with debian sarge |
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| 16:09.13 | ricky_clarkson | !que $1 is <reply>$1, please see http://lavender.cime.net/~ricky/que.html |
| 16:09.14 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: okay |
| 16:09.16 | jetscreamer | fits right on the side |
| 16:09.19 | scarynetworkguy | ricky_clarkson: Guerin got UTF8 on his HDD at some point and once you get it on something it never really comes out. |
| 16:09.20 | Dewi | uedauhes: always keep in mind that "formatting" doesn't touch every piece of a disk, it just resets the "root" of the filesystem, which lilo doesn't even use |
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| 16:09.29 | greycat | LNE100TX uses several different chipsets depending on which month it was born, but *most* of them are tulips. |
| 16:09.31 | antgel__ | tchino: there's quite a bit of difference. better to reconfig from scratch |
| 16:09.31 | uedauhes | Dewi: right just thought of that |
| 16:09.34 | stew | uedauhes: tulip will be supported by either 2.4 or 2.6, maybe during the install you need to alt-f2 and modprobe tulip, then retry the network detection |
| 16:09.37 | ricky_clarkson | !que Guerin |
| 16:09.38 | dpkg | Guerin, please see http://lavender.cime.net/~ricky/que.html |
| 16:09.40 | uedauhes | Dewi: didnt notice it was using lilo |
| 16:09.51 | uedauhes | Dewi: Until you just brought up the possibility |
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| 16:09.54 | asuffield | greycat: that's not saying much though, since tulips were several different chipsets depending on the month |
| 16:09.54 | jetscreamer | i had an lne100tx once iirc... i never had a tulip driver though. |
| 16:10.04 | madclicker | is there a samba channel on freenode? |
| 16:10.08 | uedauhes | Dewi: So it looks like that section of the netinstall is goin awry |
| 16:10.11 | asg | madclicker: #samba or ##samba |
| 16:10.12 | Guerin | ricky_clarkson: hah |
| 16:10.14 | jetscreamer | maybe #samba or ##samba |
| 16:10.14 | abrotman | madclicker: #samba .. oddly enough |
| 16:10.15 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Yeah. But we don't hold it against you. Much. |
| 16:10.17 | jetscreamer | jinx |
| 16:10.20 | Guerin | manuel++ |
| 16:10.22 | greycat | asuffield: although some of the older 2.2.x and 2.4.x tulip drivers had problems with some of the LNE100TX non-DEC chipsets |
| 16:10.28 | Dewi | uedauhes: well, I was under the impression that actually installing the bootloader into MBR happens after apt |
| 16:10.33 | Dewi | uedauhes: I did it just the other day |
| 16:10.38 | Dewi | uedauhes: you might choose it before apt |
| 16:10.41 | antgel__ | uedauhes: i asked you more than once if you got the module mismatch during install. you never said that you rebooted. furthermore, i am competent. |
| 16:10.43 | syntaxx | ricky_clarkson, do u want to me to send u my screenshot? |
| 16:10.44 | madclicker | abrotman: way ahead of you, eheeheh tried that, i woudnt just ask |
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| 16:10.49 | antgel__ | !u |
| 16:10.49 | jetscreamer | no the grub/lilo options are before the first reboot |
| 16:10.49 | stew | uedauhes: the bootloader is the last part of the install, if you bailed early then it wouldn't have even tried to install a kernel/bootloader |
| 16:10.50 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:10.52 | abrotman | madclicker: it's there |
| 16:10.57 | Dewi | uedauhes: owait, no, you're right, it is normally before apt. I see what you mean. |
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| 16:11.02 | scarynetworkguy | ricky_clarkson: Fawlty Towers!! |
| 16:11.03 | stew | uedauhes: try it again, alt-f2, modprobe tulip, |
| 16:11.04 | jetscreamer | but there are 2 different apt screens.. one is before, one is after |
| 16:11.07 | asuffield | greycat: yeah, unfortunately the non-DEC tulip clones tended to be horribly buggy hardware |
| 16:11.08 | madclicker | abrotman: huh, let me see |
| 16:11.09 | ricky_clarkson | scarynetworkguy: NSS |
| 16:11.10 | uedauhes | Dewi, stew: it does ask you before apt |
| 16:11.17 | scarynetworkguy | ricky_clarkson: NSS? |
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| 16:11.19 | jetscreamer | it does both actually |
| 16:11.20 | ricky_clarkson | scarynetworkguy: No shit, Sherlock. |
| 16:11.23 | uedauhes | Dewi, stew: And it must install before apt |
| 16:11.27 | Dewi | stew: actually it reboots you before apt, so bootloader must be there |
| 16:11.31 | uedauhes | Dewi, stew: Because you have to remove CD and reboot |
| 16:11.31 | asuffield | if you have a non-DEC tulip then the best thing to do is get another card |
| 16:11.31 | madclicker | abrotman: sorry, i keep forgetting the # |
| 16:11.37 | jetscreamer | BOTH |
| 16:11.45 | scarynetworkguy | ricky_clarkson: Ahh. It was more an exclamation of pure joy than an attempt to pass information. :P |
| 16:11.45 | filip_ | ho can i run c:\pm\PM99.exe in wine what should i write? |
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| 16:11.47 | jetscreamer | quit ignoring the facts i tell you :) |
| 16:11.54 | Guerin | filip_: depends |
| 16:11.56 | ricky_clarkson | scarynetworkguy: Furry nuff. |
| 16:12.02 | uedauhes | antgel__: go away ... im getting help from ppl that dont accuse me of lying |
| 16:12.04 | antgel__ | filip_: rtfm? |
| 16:12.05 | ehtom-z | with apt... instead of putting testing in sources.list, could I put etch instead? |
| 16:12.13 | jetscreamer | hey maybe i'll go install windows again |
| 16:12.14 | greycat | ehtom-z: yes |
| 16:12.16 | jetscreamer | i'm bored |
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| 16:12.18 | antgel__ | uedauhes: /ignore me or live with me |
| 16:12.18 | filip_ | what is that? |
| 16:12.18 | stew | uedauhes: if you don't like what he has to say, just use /ignore |
| 16:12.23 | ricky_clarkson | jetscreamer: www.funkypool.com |
| 16:12.24 | abrotman | i think it was better with the bots :) |
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| 16:12.38 | greycat | abrotman: you could program a bot to spam you periodically. |
| 16:12.39 | samuel_ | sup all |
| 16:12.47 | stew | uedauhes: if you are still using lilo you didnt' finish the install before rebooting |
| 16:12.48 | antgel__ | !ppl |
| 16:12.48 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
| 16:12.49 | ricky_clarkson | crontab -e |
| 16:12.53 | uedauhes | stew: the dependencies file is not there |
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| 16:12.57 | ehtom-z | greycat, and... would that have the effect of when etch becomes stable, my computer effectively being debian stable (at which point I would change sources.list to stable)? |
| 16:12.58 | abrotman | greycat: !tell me about qotd00 |
| 16:13.03 | eXistenZ | hello, what are SID packages? |
| 16:13.05 | stew | uedauhes: what dependencies file? where? |
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| 16:13.07 | resiak | ricky_clarkson++ # ¿Qué? |
| 16:13.08 | ricky_clarkson | * * * * * echo Free porn www.xxx.org |
| 16:13.11 | scarynetworkguy | !qotd11 |
| 16:13.12 | dpkg | <scarynetworkguy> yea any book that has the phrase 'Pig-fisting' in it is gonna be good |
| 16:13.13 | antgel__ | eXistenZ: sid = unstable |
| 16:13.14 | asg | eXistenZ: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 16:13.19 | scarynetworkguy | Best qotd EVER. |
| 16:13.23 | jetscreamer | windows sounds like so much fun... |
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| 16:13.32 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 16:13.36 | resiak | scarynetworkguy: You would say that, you said it. |
| 16:13.37 | uedauhes | stew: but how is that possible ... You do initial install w/ CD |
| 16:13.39 | abrotman | wtf |
| 16:13.40 | resiak | !qotd0 |
| 16:13.41 | dpkg | * Guerin/#debian goes to pick his wife up from kindy |
| 16:13.42 | uedauhes | stew: then you have to reboot |
| 16:13.45 | ricky_clarkson | !moron abrotman |
| 16:13.46 | greycat | !literal qotd00 |
| 16:13.46 | dpkg | abrotman: You are moron #11 |
| 16:13.46 | dpkg | qotd00 is <reply> see qotd((|1)(|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)) |
| 16:13.47 | abrotman | oh that's right . .it's not perfect |
| 16:13.48 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 16:13.48 | Dewi | ehtom-z: I believe your reasoning is correct, but I'm not confident. |
| 16:13.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd125 is <exobyte> California should steal .ca from canada <exobyte> our state flower causes people to fail drug tests. how kick ass is that?! |
| 16:13.51 | scarynetworkguy | resiak: Indeed indeed. And it did turn out to be a good book. |
| 16:13.54 | uedauhes | stew: so it must write the bootloader before the reboot |
| 16:13.58 | abrotman | !stupid ricky_clarkson |
| 16:13.58 | uedauhes | stew: no? |
| 16:13.59 | jetscreamer | i could reboot like 50 times today if i do reinstall.. wow... and in like 12 hours i might be finished updating it |
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| 16:14.03 | resiak | scarynetworkguy: What was it? |
| 16:14.06 | greycat | qotd00 is not guaranteed to result in a valid <reply>see |
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| 16:14.11 | ehtom-z | Dewi, ok... i'll try it |
| 16:14.16 | abrotman | greycat: i know .. i forgot |
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| 16:14.22 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: stupid is not a verb. |
| 16:14.26 | scarynetworkguy | resiak: A Cooks Tour by Anthony Bourdain. |
| 16:14.28 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: and i care why? |
| 16:14.28 | ricky_clarkson | "I'm gonna stupid you." |
| 16:14.33 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: stop stupiding! |
| 16:14.40 | abrotman | like i'm gonna moron you ? |
| 16:14.41 | abrotman | wtf ... |
| 16:14.42 | jetscreamer | it can be, see? |
| 16:14.42 | stew | uedauhes: i dunno, but unless you did "expert" in the install there is no way to install lilo iirc, and there is definately no way to install a non-debian 2.4.29 kernel. |
| 16:14.45 | resiak | scarynetworkguy: I see. |
| 16:14.52 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: I'm gonna lamp you. |
| 16:14.53 | samuel | anyone know of any plugins to get firefox/mozilla to use totem instead of realplayer and the like? |
| 16:14.54 | jetscreamer | dpkg: moron |
| 16:14.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, moron is someone that types long lines starting with "dpkg" |
| 16:14.55 | stew | uedauhes: did you install a boot loader to the wrong drive possibly? |
| 16:15.12 | uedauhes | stew: No I am sure now that it is using old bootloader and booting to slackware |
| 16:15.15 | abrotman | yay |
| 16:15.26 | uedauhes | stew: that is possible |
| 16:15.26 | jetscreamer | dpkg: a moron is also a person whose brain needs to be on more |
| 16:15.26 | dpkg | okay, jetscreamer |
| 16:15.27 | greycat | uedauhes: well, booting the slack *kernel*. |
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| 16:15.34 | greycat | uedauhes: but the debian root file system |
| 16:15.36 | Dewi | dpkg: moron |
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| 16:15.36 | dpkg | i heard moron is someone that types long lines starting with "dpkg", or a person whose brain needs to be on more |
| 16:15.43 | uedauhes | greycat: yep wacky |
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| 16:15.57 | uedauhes | greycat: bootloader is not being written during initial install |
| 16:15.58 | greycat | uedauhes: but fixable. |
| 16:16.06 | abrotman | yay |
| 16:16.09 | uedauhes | greycat: or I am installing to wrond drive |
| 16:16.09 | rox | hmm, i have a dvd image ... |
| 16:16.11 | abrotman | they're back |
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| 16:16.19 | ehtom-z | greycat, so... what do you think of my etch idea? |
| 16:16.24 | uedauhes | stew: I must be installing bootloader to wrong drive |
| 16:16.27 | resiak | !lose greycat's ^-ban |
| 16:16.28 | dpkg | greycat's ^-ban: You Lose. |
| 16:16.36 | uedauhes | stew: I just selected the one the installer suggested |
| 16:16.38 | ricky_clarkson | I've forgotten how to search dpkg's factoids for text. |
| 16:16.41 | bibe | uedauhes : so boot slackware, adjust /etc/lilo.conf to boot debian too and run /sbin/lilo from there. No need to install grub (or lilo) from netinst to boot debian |
| 16:16.42 | resiak | ricky_clarkson: listvals |
| 16:16.49 | greycat | resiak: awwwwwww. |
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| 16:16.59 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd14 |
| 16:16.59 | dpkg | <veleno> Guerin: i don't know what a moron is. |
| 16:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [-b *^*^*^*!*@*] by greycat |
| 16:17.03 | jetscreamer | bibe: no slack, just the bootloader |
| 16:17.04 | resiak | greycat: Hey, what can I say. |
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| 16:17.07 | rox | hmm, i have a dvd image that i got right off a dvd with dd. Now dvdrecord refuses to burn it for some reason ... will it be the same image, if i mount it through loopback device and then burn it with growisofs? |
| 16:17.23 | resiak | greycat: I didn't mean get rid of it! |
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| 16:17.41 | resiak | greycat: I just meant that A^Y^L^A came back as AYLA^ |
| 16:17.45 | uedauhes | bibe: I should be able to do it the right way from the install |
| 16:17.46 | soldiar | hi @ll |
| 16:17.52 | dvs | hell0 |
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| 16:17.56 | uedauhes | bibe: Ijust need to select the other HD I guess |
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| 16:18.05 | soldiar | i've got a problem again, I can't install "OpenOffice" under my "Debian Sarge amd64 version". |
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| 16:18.09 | soldiar | how to do that? |
| 16:18.17 | uedauhes | bibe: Is master always checked by bios first ... or is that a bios setting? |
| 16:18.21 | greycat | looks like the next wave of bots is bdweing tested. |
| 16:18.21 | ehtom-z | soldiar, it doesnt work under 64 bit |
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| 16:18.25 | bartden | hi, i need a program tha detects my special laptop keys , does there exist some sort of program ? |
| 16:18.28 | antgel__ | wtf? |
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| 16:18.31 | uedauhes | bibe: master = XP, slave = linux |
| 16:18.32 | ehtom-z | soldiar, you need to install it into a chroot |
| 16:18.35 | greycat | hmm... my ctrl key is a bit dodgy it seems. |
| 16:18.48 | soldiar | iehtom-z: what's a chroot? and how to install it in a chroot? |
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| 16:18.51 | Octal|IRC | bartden : Not so much detect. Something like 'hotkeys' or lineak can do it. |
| 16:18.58 | bartden | k thx |
| 16:19.02 | ehtom-z | soldiar, see the howto in the topic of #debian-amd64 for details (I cant remember the specifics) |
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| 16:19.09 | Dewi | jetscreamer: what's the best way to get hold of xine-ui from etch? |
| 16:19.13 | soldiar | thanks :) |
| 16:19.35 | stew | uedauhes: if you are booted into your partially install system you can look at /boot and see what kernel was installed there |
| 16:19.38 | tchino | antgel__: how can i configure with gmx, what i do in the first question: pipe mails |
| 16:19.46 | psycho | Ayla, that reminds me of the book 'The Clan of the Cave Bear' :D |
| 16:19.53 | moshii | anyone know if sony's cybershot cams can take duo memorysticks without an adaptor, just bought one because it works with gphoto, and a duo stick doh |
| 16:20.11 | jetscreamer | Dewi: i just d/l'd the stable version from pdo... i also did the sid one :) |
| 16:20.14 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 16:20.14 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 16:20.16 | bibe | uedauhes : you should install GRUB in the master's MBR |
| 16:20.16 | uedauhes | stew: ok ... already restarted .. gonna try to reinstall to the correct MBR |
| 16:20.17 | antgel__ | tchino: i have no idea what you're talking about |
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| 16:20.42 | jetscreamer | search for xine-ui Dewi |
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| 16:20.46 | tchino | antgel__: exim4 configuration |
| 16:20.52 | Dewi | jetscreamer: and install directly with dpkg? |
| 16:20.59 | jetscreamer | ya dpkg -i |
| 16:21.01 | Dewi | jetscreamer: what are the implications of that for dependancies? |
| 16:21.05 | antgel__ | tchino: wtf |
| 16:21.16 | antgel__ | tchino: i don't have a clue what gmx is |
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| 16:21.19 | jetscreamer | Dewi: i already had all the required dependencies installed |
| 16:21.20 | Dewi | jetscreamer: does that just ignore dependancies or should it integrate appropriately? |
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| 16:21.47 | Dewi | jetscreamer: (does dpkg handle deps or is that entirely the domain of apt?) |
| 16:21.49 | jetscreamer | Dewi: it gives you a list on pdo of the dependencies... if you can't meet em it won't install, afaik |
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| 16:22.07 | Dewi | jetscreamer: awesome, I'll give it a try |
| 16:22.37 | jetscreamer | Dewi: but after you try, if you do apt-get -f install or use dselect, all the deps should be automagic |
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| 16:22.46 | tchino | antgel__: i have a mail adresse by gmx, and mail-server from that is mail.gmx.de |
| 16:22.48 | jetscreamer | after you try and it doesn't do it i mean |
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| 16:23.01 | jetscreamer | aptitude 'should' work also |
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| 16:23.23 | antgel__ | tchino: i also don't know what you mean about pipe mails. |
| 16:23.49 | tchino | antgel__: i want to configurate exim4 |
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| 16:24.28 | hat | hello, what is the max threads allowed for a process? |
| 16:24.39 | mfrisch | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.53 | antgel__ | !tell tchino about vagueness |
| 16:25.11 | antgel__ | tchino: you aren't telling us fuck all |
| 16:25.17 | greycat | tchino: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 16:25.21 | antgel__ | or is that are? |
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| 16:26.12 | tchino | greycat: i have do that, but know, what i have to do than, i want to install a mail server |
| 16:26.22 | greycat | tchino: #exim |
| 16:26.27 | Dewi | jetscreamer: how can I ask apt or dpkg if a specific package is installed or not? |
| 16:26.39 | dvs | Dewi: dpkg -l |
| 16:26.43 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 16:26.51 | jetscreamer | that's an L but lowercase |
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| 16:27.00 | mike123 | Hmm what would TTL expired in transit mean? My webserver is down an all host says is "there is an issue will fix asap" - has been 7 hours already :( |
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| 16:27.12 | antgel__ | greycat: he doesn't lower himself to read documentation |
| 16:27.14 | somePriest | What package do I need to allow Firefox to display flash files? Is it libswfdec0.3? |
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| 16:27.23 | Dewi | dvs: thx |
| 16:27.28 | dvs | no prob |
| 16:27.38 | antgel__ | !tell somePriest about flash |
| 16:27.39 | greycat | somePriest: you need a flash plugin built with the SAME generation g++ ABI as your firefox. |
| 16:27.57 | Dewi | jetscreamer: mmm, this gnometerm's font actually shows difference between "i" and "l" very well |
| 16:28.01 | antgel__ | mike123: some kind of routing problem |
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| 16:28.16 | greycat | and yet, the use of C++ is still not considered a capital crime. |
| 16:28.17 | greycat | go figure. |
| 16:28.23 | mike123 | antgel: more then likly its not a server issue? |
| 16:28.31 | dvs | greycat: Hey! Watch it! ;-) |
| 16:28.32 | uedauhes | greycat, antgel__, stew, Dewi ... etc: Bios was not booting IDE0, even though that is specified order |
| 16:28.33 | mike123 | i just hope i lost my data, didn't backup |
| 16:28.39 | abrotman | greycat: we could write your gui in Delphi ? |
| 16:28.47 | uedauhes | greycat, antgel__, stew, Dewi ... etc: When I manually selected IDE0 it worked |
| 16:29.04 | antgel__ | mike123: you haven't said much, but generally routing. look at the ip rfc for a description of ttl |
| 16:29.09 | greycat | uedauhes: box with SATA plus IDE? |
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| 16:29.20 | uedauhes | greycat, antgel__, stew, Dewi ... etc: Problem solved ... thx to those that helped |
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| 16:29.30 | uedauhes | greycat: I think so |
| 16:29.42 | uedauhes | greycat: Not sure if SATA or just ATA |
| 16:29.42 | greycat | uedauhes: yeah, grub gets confused about which is the "first" disk. |
| 16:30.09 | uedauhes | greycat: debian put it on the right disk (IDE0) |
| 16:30.28 | uedauhes | greycat: but the bios booted IDE1 |
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| 16:30.36 | versuchsanstalt | I have a dual boot question with a certain amount of wintendo wisdom needed to solve the problem. Please point me to a better channel if necessary. ### I have installed sarge on a machine that already has win2k using three partitions. One of these was empty, so that's where sarge is now residing. I understand that wintendo stores partition info not only in the partition table, but in a file (registry? who knows.), too. I now kno |
| 16:30.37 | versuchsanstalt | w that I should have gotten rid of that partition from the wintendo side of the pond before installing sarge, because wintendo is now waiting for a partition that isn't available anymore. If I now delete the partition from wintendo, I am sure I will wipe the sarge install, too. QUESTIONS: If I reinstall sarge now, will it detect the wintendo installation again? If not, will it be enough to have the menu.lst available and replace |
| 16:30.37 | versuchsanstalt | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.43 | uedauhes | greycat: which had slackware's lilo |
| 16:30.52 | psycho | Uuggghhh I've tried "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key" but it doesn't work out :( Nothing outputs from Right_Win+~+n :( Somebody help |
| 16:31.14 | uedauhes | greycat: not sure why slack (old install I did a good while ago) installed lilo to IDE1 |
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| 16:31.22 | FunnyLookinHat | if apt-cache search xorg returns no results... what sources should I be adding to sources.ist |
| 16:31.23 | greycat | scan scan windows scan scan win2k scan scan partition scan scan fdisk |
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| 16:31.32 | antgel__ | versuchsanstalt: what do you mean windows is "waiting for a partition"? |
| 16:31.32 | uedauhes | greycat: and not sure why I was booting IDE1 |
| 16:31.33 | pa | hello |
| 16:31.40 | giojotoca | hello |
| 16:31.41 | dimm0k | upgrading from kernel 2.4.x to 2.6.12.x, my mouse in X moves much faster... how do i fix this? |
| 16:31.47 | giojotoca | good afternoon |
| 16:31.48 | uedauhes | greycat: I think it might have been so windows bootloader could live on IDE0 |
| 16:31.50 | pa | i have this problem: dma_intr: error=0x40 |
| 16:31.55 | pa | can i solve it somehow? |
| 16:32.00 | greycat | versuchsanstalt: 1) install Windows. 2) install Debian. Debian's GRUB menu will automatically find the Windows installation. |
| 16:32.09 | antgel__ | pa: is it on a hard disk? paste the whole error line? |
| 16:32.14 | greycat | versuchsanstalt: that's if you want a dual-boot. Damned if I can figure out what you want from that horribly long question. |
| 16:32.20 | uedauhes | greycat: as my wife didnt like the bootloader screen coming up first lol |
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| 16:32.31 | pa | antgel: yes: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=485583725, high=28, low=15821677, sector=468924320 |
| 16:32.43 | greycat | uedauhes: you can configure grub to be pretty invisible |
| 16:32.48 | pa | here i found i think an explaination: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0211.2/1029.html |
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| 16:32.53 | antgel__ | pa: your disk's had it. |
| 16:32.59 | pa | but how can i write to those sectors? |
| 16:33.05 | antgel__ | pa: backup, pray and get a new disk |
| 16:33.17 | uedauhes | greycat: there some key you have to press to get it to come up? |
| 16:33.23 | greycat | ask #grub |
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| 16:33.35 | greycat | or you could always go back to lilo if you're more comfy with that |
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| 16:33.44 | versuchsanstalt | greycat: that's what i did, but on a partition that was known to the wintendo install. So now it's gone, and poor wintendo is still waiting for it... |
| 16:33.44 | pa | antgel: i think my disk is in good shape actually |
| 16:33.59 | antgel__ | pa: good luck to you |
| 16:33.59 | dvs | pa: Not according to those messages |
| 16:34.06 | greycat | versuchsanstalt: I can't answer any questions about how windows works. |
| 16:34.11 | Kazy | Hello |
| 16:34.12 | versuchsanstalt | greycat: but i think it'll be enough if i have the menu.lst that was created during the sarge install |
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| 16:34.27 | Kazy | Fuck off everybody |
| 16:34.37 | versuchsanstalt | greycat: yes, thank you. i know it's a windows question actually. |
| 16:34.38 | antgel__ | versuchsanstalt: wtf do you mean windows is waiting for a partition? that's like me booting from a train |
| 16:34.40 | asg | lame troll. |
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| 16:34.54 | TiTaN7289 | anyone provide assistance with iptables blocking p2p... kazaa.. can it be done despite them being so called smart protocols |
| 16:35.07 | greycat | Kazy: "fuck off" is not a polite greeting in english. |
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| 16:35.19 | moshii | greycat: works in devon |
| 16:35.21 | greycat | Kazy: you might try "hello" |
| 16:35.30 | dvs | greycat: Hey, you learn the swear words first in another language. ;-) |
| 16:35.36 | asg | greycat: he did do 'Hello' |
| 16:35.37 | Ether_Man | greycat: he DID say hello first though ^_~ |
| 16:35.43 | greycat | asg: oh yeah, true. |
| 16:35.44 | pa | dvs: i started to get those messages after i attached it to a faulty mb, that was not able to recognize it correctly. i then put the old mb, and it restarted to work correctly |
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| 16:35.54 | versuchsanstalt | antgel__: wintendo doesnt trust the partition table and is waiting to be able to access a partition that it wouldnt be trying if there wasnt this damn wrong partition info stored in - who knows where. |
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| 16:36.03 | dvs | pa: Oh, ok. I take it back. |
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| 16:36.09 | Kazy | Hey graycat fuck your mother |
| 16:36.10 | versuchsanstalt | but i think my question has been answered. thanks, greycat |
| 16:36.15 | dvs | see ya |
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| 16:36.29 | jethro | !lart Kazy |
| 16:36.30 | Kazy | I think everybody is a big pig shit |
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| 16:36.34 | gravity | heh |
| 16:36.40 | gravity | What a tool |
| 16:36.55 | greycat | someone left his computer running |
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| 16:36.59 | antgel__ | hmm, definitely picked the wrong person out of nearly 500 |
| 16:37.06 | greycat | and forgot to xlock ;-() |
| 16:37.12 | asg | greycat: or trolling us via bablefish |
| 16:37.25 | TiTaN7289 | anyone here had success blocking kazaa with iptables ? |
| 16:37.26 | greycat | or, yes, it could be a very stupid troll. |
| 16:37.35 | greycat | TiTaN7289: try #iptables |
| 16:37.44 | petemc | TiTaN7289: i use ftwall |
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| 16:38.11 | petemc | TiTaN7289: theres also a p2p extension to iptables |
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| 16:38.47 | TiTaN7289 | petemc: is it on by default ? |
| 16:38.52 | petemc | no |
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| 16:39.00 | uedauhes | thx to all for help |
| 16:39.01 | TiTaN7289 | dammm |
| 16:39.02 | FunnyLookinHat | someone get that flippin bot out of here |
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| 16:39.08 | TiTaN7289 | how do I use it or apply it ? |
| 16:39.14 | dvs | the bots still around? |
| 16:39.16 | petemc | you read up on it |
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| 16:39.22 | dvs | oh yeah |
| 16:39.34 | asg | dvs: greycat took care of them |
| 16:39.34 | TiTaN7289 | petemc: do you have a URL ? |
| 16:39.47 | petemc | TiTaN7289: for ftwall, you basically set all your outgoing rules to QUEUE |
| 16:39.51 | asg | greycat: firehol is decent for that |
| 16:39.51 | dvs | asg: What shotgun did he use? |
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| 16:40.03 | greycat | 09:49 ~ greycat set +b *!*@85.9?.*.* on #debian |
| 16:40.04 | petemc | TiTaN7289: www.google.com :) |
| 16:40.04 | greycat | etc. |
| 16:40.05 | asg | dvs: he banned large swaths of Turkey |
| 16:40.13 | dvs | Turkey? |
| 16:40.21 | greycat | dvs: Turkey. The countryt. |
| 16:40.22 | FieldySnuts | due to the stupid floods |
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| 16:40.30 | greycat | that's where the bots have ALWAYS been coming from. |
| 16:40.35 | asg | dvs: flag with C* on it |
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| 16:40.55 | greycat | asg: is that the upcoming programming language? |
| 16:41.05 | dvs | pffft |
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| 16:41.11 | FieldySnuts | another damn language? |
| 16:41.13 | asg | greycat: hehe |
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| 16:41.30 | antgel__ | the next language will be apple's iC |
| 16:41.32 | dvs | I want C$ |
| 16:41.34 | ledet | C§ too |
| 16:41.42 | greycat | ledet: l33t! non-ascii! |
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| 16:42.24 | tchino | greaycat: at #exim is nobody |
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| 16:42.35 | ledet | greycat: that was a paragraph sign... should be ascii 167 |
| 16:42.38 | FieldySnuts | not our problem that they can't support heir own users over IRC |
| 16:42.40 | asg | tchino: then read the spec (/usr/share/doc/exim*/spec*) |
| 16:42.41 | ledet | greycat: i think... |
| 16:42.42 | greycat | oh, THERE it is! <compose><s><o> = § |
| 16:42.44 | ledet | greycat: :) |
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| 16:42.52 | asg | § |
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| 16:43.20 | MrWeet | damn windows and its viruses -_- |
| 16:43.25 | asg | ledet: thought that was for sections, not paragraphs. |
| 16:43.32 | dvs | Whoa! What did Edmundo do? |
| 16:43.54 | antgel__ | not a poll, but anyone convinced of the worth of me asking for a d-i enhancement - after install, _strongly_ recommending that user reads the reference? |
| 16:44.19 | Octal|IRC | Hey, it's Rachel. |
| 16:44.21 | greycat | antgel__: it would have to bring it up on the screen FOR the user. |
| 16:44.22 | asg | antgel__: they won't read it, they rarely read the installation guide |
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| 16:44.32 | greycat | antgel__: if it's not right in front of their faces, they will never read it. |
| 16:44.59 | antgel__ | greycat: they _might_ if it's a strongly worded message complete with url. |
| 16:45.06 | ledet | ... or write |
| 16:45.14 | ledet | can sometimes be a problem on irc :) |
| 16:45.15 | greycat | antgel__: no they won't. they'd have to write down the URL and then type it in later. |
| 16:45.30 | asg | ledet: you can hum though |
| 16:45.49 | psycho | greycat: How did you do that I can't figure it out heeeellppp |
| 16:45.52 | antgel__ | ledet: do you communicate with one of those tribal whistle systems? |
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| 16:45.58 | ledet | asg: that and play the banjo... thats how i do everything |
| 16:46.03 | greycat | psycho: do what? |
| 16:46.10 | ledet | antgel: lol |
| 16:46.16 | ledet | antgel: smoke signals |
| 16:46.17 | asg | ledet: ah, the bluegrass codec |
| 16:46.18 | psycho | greycat: <compose><s><o> = does nothing for me :( |
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| 16:46.21 | greycat | !iso8859 |
| 16:46.22 | dpkg | If you want to type ISO8859-1 (or similar) characters on your US keyboard, put "export LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1" in your .bash_profile (or whatever) and restart X. Use the right Windows key (on pc104) as your Compose/Multi_key key. Press <Compose><e><'> to make é, etc. In xf4.2, you may have to run xmodmap -e 'keysym Super_R = Multi_key' also. |
| 16:46.28 | ricky_clarkson | I lost my tribal whistle. |
| 16:46.33 | monster | how toc check which process uses my mounted disk - I cannot umount beacause of resourse busy |
| 16:46.34 | ledet | asg: exactly... dont remember the rfc number... |
| 16:46.49 | asg | ledet: submit it for next April |
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| 16:46.54 | nissemus | Where can I report abuse of irc.debian.org |
| 16:46.54 | antgel__ | !tell monster about lsof |
| 16:46.55 | asg | !rfc1149 |
| 16:46.55 | nissemus | ? |
| 16:46.55 | dpkg | rfc1149 is, like, Standard for the transmission of IP datagrams on avian carriers. D. Waitzman. Apr-01-1990. (Format: TXT=3329 bytes) (Status: EXPERIMENTAL) |
| 16:47.01 | ledet | asg: nah, too obvious :) |
| 16:47.03 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: I'd rather use UTF-8. |
| 16:47.03 | asg | nissemus: #freenode |
| 16:47.06 | cahoot | @ł€®þâ†â†“→œþßðđŋħjĸłøæ´ |
| 16:47.09 | antgel__ | that's my _best_ rfc ever |
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| 16:47.23 | asg | antgel__: that is taped to my office door at work |
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| 16:47.58 | antgel__ | i suppose ethernet flew away with the honours |
| 16:48.22 | antgel__ | asg: did you tape the bird to the door? |
| 16:48.28 | ricky_clarkson | antgel__: IMMP is better. |
| 16:48.39 | asg | antgel__: nah, just a printout of rfc1149 |
| 16:48.47 | asg | ricky_clarkson: I prefer UUBP |
| 16:49.05 | somePriest | Is flashplugin in non-free stable tree as well as unstable? I don't see it in non-free with my mirrors. |
| 16:49.27 | antgel__ | somePriest: packages.debian.org |
| 16:50.08 | antgel__ | s/current// |
| 16:50.17 | somePriest | antgel_, Hmm, guess its not. |
| 16:50.30 | monster | antgel__: thanks |
| 16:51.07 | antgel__ | i have no idea who said that. i need to read the irssi docs. yellow on white doesn't do it for me. |
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| 16:51.36 | ricky_clarkson | antgel__: I use grey on black. |
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| 16:51.42 | ricky_clarkson | I think that's the default |
| 16:51.53 | abrotman | who the hell would use yellow on white? |
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| 16:52.00 | mveers | hi |
| 16:52.04 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: Someone urinating on snow. |
| 16:52.09 | greycat | antgel__: I use the "clean" theme |
| 16:52.16 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: great for peeing .. not for irrsi |
| 16:52.25 | giojotoca | what do you think about amsn.095b |
| 16:52.30 | plb | heh rice krispies! http://screenshots.haque.net/screenshots/view/29006/screenshot-29006.jpg |
| 16:52.37 | antgel__ | abrotman: it's how it worked out. cygwin/x ssh'ing to debian irssi defaults. haven't had a time to sort it |
| 16:52.37 | kaharas | i prefeare gaim 1.5.0 |
| 16:52.52 | antgel__ | even better, when i say something, my nick is white on white |
| 16:52.55 | Caelum | there was one on how to do QOS over pigeons too or something |
| 16:52.57 | giojotoca | gaim whit webcam |
| 16:53.13 | xixor | Hey everyone, can anyone offer me some quick help getting sound going? I have a laptop with an ALi M5451 PCI sound card. The kernel modules for this appear to be loaded correctly, but I can't play sounds? I have added myself to the audio group. Not too sure where to look for what is wrong or how to go about troubleshooting this |
| 16:53.22 | antgel__ | !hug xixor |
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| 16:53.35 | antgel__ | xixor: so nice to see proper question |
| 16:53.39 | kaharas | i used amsn 0.94... nice but gaim's better |
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| 16:53.51 | ricky_clarkson | xixor: What happens when you try to play sounds?> |
| 16:53.56 | giojotoca | okeys |
| 16:53.59 | Caelum | xixor: is there an error or you just can't hear anything? have you checked aumix? |
| 16:54.02 | antgel__ | xixor: assume you're using alsa, did you unmute and turn up the volume in the mixer? |
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| 16:54.08 | dvs | xixor: If you just added yourself to the audio group, you need to logout and on again. |
| 16:54.11 | plb | xixor: check alsamixer |
| 16:54.15 | plb | er what antgel__ said |
| 16:54.16 | plb | ;] |
| 16:54.16 | Serpentwolf | these bots are getting on my nerves |
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| 16:54.35 | abrotman | Serpentwolf: /topic |
| 16:54.48 | xixor | Caelum : there are no errors as far as I can see |
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| 16:55.01 | xixor | dvs: I have been in the audio group for a while |
| 16:55.27 | xixor | Caelum : I dont have aumix installed, i'll see what it says |
| 16:55.45 | antgel__ | xixor: could try alsamixer-gui |
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| 16:56.00 | antgel__ | not sure what's better, i don't tend to alter volume. :) |
| 16:56.18 | xixor | Caelum : good advice! aumix showed that the volume was 0 |
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| 16:57.24 | styx | moin |
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| 16:57.47 | HCTC | Hello, I am having problems with installing debian with install dvd number 1. I think perhaps the ISO I downloaded may have been corrupt or something. How does netinstall work? Is it just a basic boot CD which enables your nic and then phones home and downloads stuff to install etc? I have a decent conection, do you recomend I try this? |
| 16:57.57 | abrotman | HCTC: you have broadband? |
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| 16:58.01 | HCTC | yep |
| 16:58.02 | antgel__ | xixor: HCTC yes |
| 16:58.03 | HCTC | 8meg |
| 16:58.06 | antgel__ | fuck |
| 16:58.13 | antgel__ | HCTC: yes |
| 16:58.14 | abrotman | HCTC: you boot it .. instal base .. reboot .. install whatever else you want ... |
| 16:58.14 | dvs | HCTC: Not enough. ;-) |
| 16:58.15 | HCTC | sweet I might give that a shot then |
| 16:58.21 | abrotman | !d-i HCTC |
| 16:58.22 | dpkg | HCTC, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 16:58.33 | antgel__ | HCTC: what problems you having with the dvd? |
| 16:58.35 | HCTC | lol thanks |
| 16:59.05 | HCTC | it says there was a problem reading data from the cd-rom |
| 16:59.05 | abrotman | Hi .. my DVD won't fit in the 3.5" slot |
| 16:59.07 | antgel__ | the last two questions have been so juicy |
| 16:59.11 | HCTC | I'v downloaded it 2wice |
| 16:59.16 | greycat | !rube goldberg install |
| 16:59.16 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 16:59.21 | HCTC | maybe my burner is doing something funky with the ISP |
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| 16:59.25 | xixor | ha ha, now that sound is working, KDE is full of all sorts of annoying sounds |
| 16:59.26 | abrotman | HCTC: try the netinst |
| 16:59.33 | HCTC | thanks guys |
| 16:59.34 | dvs | Who the heck is goldberg? |
| 16:59.36 | antgel__ | HCTC: that's your vague version :) |
| 16:59.49 | abrotman | !smack dvs |
| 16:59.55 | abrotman | !google rube goldberg |
| 17:00.03 | dpkg | Google says rube goldberg is at http://www.rube-goldberg.com/ or http://www.rube-goldberg.com/html/gallery.htm or http://www.rube-goldberg.com/html/bio.htm or http://www.rube-goldberg.com/html/contest.htm or http://www.rube-goldberg.com/rg2idx.htm |
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| 17:00.55 | moshii | xixor: you can turn them all off with one click thankfully |
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| 17:01.18 | antgel__ | xixor: you live by the sword, you die by the sword :) |
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| 17:01.30 | dvs | Interesting |
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| 17:03.02 | aaronlin | What shell terminals are available for X? |
| 17:03.10 | abrotman | many |
| 17:03.12 | aaronlin | X-windows |
| 17:03.15 | greycat | apt-cache showpkg x-terminal-emulator |
| 17:03.15 | aaronlin | what is the smallest out there? |
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| 17:03.21 | abrotman | the smallest? |
| 17:03.28 | Caelum | aaronlin: a lot, but I highly recommend urxvt-xpm |
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| 17:03.48 | aaronlin | greycat: thanks |
| 17:03.54 | aaronlin | well, small, but I would like a scrolling function |
| 17:03.55 | aaronlin | if possible |
| 17:03.57 | aaronlin | and a menu |
| 17:03.59 | kikinovak | Hi. I have a small home network, one desktop and two laptops, they all share a dialup connection. Q: I'm looking for an app which allows the laptops (clients) to remotely launch/interrupt pppd on the server. I know it exists, there is one with a browserstyle interface... only I'm pulling my already sparse hair because I can't seem to find it. Anyone remembers such a thing? |
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| 17:04.10 | greycat | small and menu are mutually exclusive |
| 17:04.14 | petemc | kikinovak: diald |
| 17:04.21 | petemc | tho thats hella old |
| 17:04.37 | abrotman | there's uhm .. even older but more friendly-ish .. |
| 17:04.43 | abrotman | shit .. used to have a gtk client |
| 17:04.49 | kikinovak | petemc I know diald, thanks. Another one? |
| 17:05.00 | Caelum | err, I got the package name wrong, it's rxvt-unicode-lite |
| 17:05.03 | aaronlin | I remember I used to have xfterm |
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| 17:05.11 | aaronlin | but for some reason that is not available? |
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| 17:05.15 | MasterC | hi |
| 17:05.22 | abrotman | masqdialer |
| 17:05.28 | MasterC | wie kriege ich informationen über mein motherboard? |
| 17:05.30 | Caelum | aaronlin: what's so unfriendly about editing .Xdefaults? |
| 17:05.32 | versuchsanstalt | who wrote the dpkg botmesage about windows? It's hilarious, great cinema. |
| 17:05.35 | HCTC | thanks for that link abrotman, it appears to have info as to why my install dvd kept not reading the cd 1/2 way through install |
| 17:05.36 | HCTC | On systems having a SATA IDE controller that also has the CD drive connected to it, you may see the installer hanging during hardware detection for the CD drive or failing to read the CD just afterwards. |
| 17:05.36 | MasterC | brauche eigentlich nur die bezeichnung |
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| 17:05.41 | kikinovak | MasterC lspci -v |
| 17:05.42 | ricky | hello |
| 17:05.43 | Caelum | aaronlin: I'll send you my setup if you like :) |
| 17:05.48 | ricky | can somoneo help me configure my x server |
| 17:05.50 | kikinovak | abrotman sec |
| 17:05.51 | abrotman | HCTC: oh .. that sucks |
| 17:05.56 | greycat | !drxx ricky |
| 17:05.57 | dpkg | ricky: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:06.00 | MasterC | danke kikinovak |
| 17:06.01 | abrotman | kikinovak: and gmasqdialer is a client |
| 17:06.05 | HCTC | theres a work aroudn though so its all good :D |
| 17:06.18 | abrotman | kikinovak: but diald can go on demand if that's what you want |
| 17:06.36 | aaronlin | Ok hey, I installed xterm |
| 17:06.40 | aaronlin | yeah, this one is pretty nice |
| 17:06.55 | ricky | but doesnt debian no have xorg? |
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| 17:07.00 | antgel__ | HCTC: you have a sata cd drive |
| 17:07.05 | greycat | ricky: unstable does |
| 17:07.08 | greycat | !xorg sarge |
| 17:07.08 | dpkg | from memory, xorg sarge is http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ for sarge backports of the xorg packages. Use at your own risk. |
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| 17:07.09 | gravity | !topicbadger ricky |
| 17:07.09 | antgel__ | ricky: xorg is in unstable |
| 17:07.10 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that ricky didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
| 17:07.14 | aaronlin | except it lacks scroll |
| 17:07.18 | kikinovak | abrotman I'm looking for sthg that my wife ( = anthropologist, strictly non-commandline:oD) can use |
| 17:07.20 | gravity | aaronlin: pg-up |
| 17:07.24 | Caelum | aaronlin: xterm -sb |
| 17:07.27 | ricky | well i have "stable" debian |
| 17:07.31 | ricky | so all i have is xree |
| 17:07.32 | abrotman | kikinovak: to dial when she wants .. or ask needed ? |
| 17:07.34 | greycat | aaronlin: shift-PgUp |
| 17:07.39 | ricky | i already tried and it didnt work |
| 17:07.40 | abrotman | err as needed |
| 17:07.49 | greycat | aaronlin: hold Ctrl and use the right or middle mouse buttons to bring up the menus, includnig the scroll bar option |
| 17:07.50 | Caelum | aaronlin: see the man page to set up your resources, once you do that you can use rxvt instead |
| 17:07.56 | gravity | ricky: You tried norbert's backport? |
| 17:07.58 | antgel__ | ricky: be less vague |
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| 17:08.10 | HCTC | no its not sata but the mother board supports sata. I presume it loads the drivers cause the mobo suports it and that might be doing dogey things? |
| 17:08.16 | greycat | rxvt would be perfect if it had xterm's ttyModes option. |
| 17:08.18 | kikinovak | abrotman when she wants... I fiddled around with demand option of pppd, but couldnt really get anything satisfying |
| 17:08.22 | ricky | no i am in terminal mode maybe someone can help me get some more reposteries |
| 17:08.30 | abrotman | HCTC: yes .. which you could try to disable in bios if you're not using SATA HDDs |
| 17:08.32 | Caelum | greycat: rxvt-unicode doesn't? what do they do? |
| 17:08.33 | gravity | uh... wtf |
| 17:08.34 | abrotman | kikinovak: yeah .. masqdialer |
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| 17:08.49 | abrotman | kikinovak: i'm not sure it's even in debian anymore |
| 17:08.49 | aaronlin | ok, thanks, yeah, I got the scroll to work |
| 17:08.59 | greycat | Caelum: I don't use unicode, utf-8, etc. |
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| 17:09.10 | HCTC | ohhh, yer I might try that first. hah you guys are good :D |
| 17:09.12 | kikinovak | abrotman just checking the page on freshmeat... seems like the thing I need. Thanks a lot. |
| 17:09.20 | greycat | Caelum: but rxvt on HP-UX uses the default system termios bytes, which means @ for kill, # for backspace, etc. |
| 17:09.22 | abrotman | kikinovak: using gnome? |
| 17:09.28 | kikinovak | abrotman kde |
| 17:09.40 | ricky_clarkson | RichiH: Apologies - I was also on another network, uncloaked, I could have got my IP from there... |
| 17:09.43 | abrotman | oh .. i only know the gnome client which is gmasqdialer and is packaged(though i'm not sure for sarge) |
| 17:09.43 | greycat | Caelum: I hacked the source to set them how I wanted. It should be on a knob, though. |
| 17:09.57 | Caelum | greycat: me neither, but rxvt-unicode has a lot more stuff besides that. Like xft font support, etc. Although I had to build my own for 256 color support |
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| 17:10.15 | kikinovak | abrotman but I have the necessary gtk libraries |
| 17:10.27 | kikinovak | abrotman anyway thanks a lot... bye |
| 17:10.32 | abrotman | bye :) |
| 17:10.59 | ricky | im sorry i dont understand bitch-x and there is no irrsi in debian |
| 17:11.09 | gravity | Dude |
| 17:11.13 | gravity | ricky: You're an idiot |
| 17:11.15 | greycat | ricky: liar. |
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| 17:11.41 | greycat | ricky: apt-get install irssi-text |
| 17:11.55 | gravity | I love how I'm running all these things that aren't in Debian |
| 17:11.58 | antgel__ | he said no irrsi, which is technically correct |
| 17:12.10 | gravity | No, it's not |
| 17:12.20 | greycat | !find irrsi |
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| 17:12.49 | abrotman | dpkg needs speed |
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| 17:12.58 | dvs | abrotman: Say no to drugs |
| 17:13.01 | abrotman | or rebooted |
| 17:13.24 | antgel__ | i was picking up on the typo in irrsi, bad form i know |
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| 17:13.49 | gravity | Ah, I missed that |
| 17:14.06 | ricky | thanks it works |
| 17:14.09 | ricky | exit |
| 17:14.10 | ricky | quit |
| 17:14.12 | greycat | I missed it the first time, too. I claim distraction. |
| 17:14.15 | abrotman | ricky: /quit |
| 17:14.32 | abrotman | or not |
| 17:14.35 | elfspace | hello |
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| 17:14.55 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
| 17:15.26 | ArchitectSinan | How can I add CD Debian CDs to my aptitude's repository ? |
| 17:15.31 | elfspace | anyone uses azureus program ? |
| 17:15.37 | greycat | ArchitectSinan: apt-cdrom add |
| 17:15.41 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 17:15.41 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 17:15.44 | ArchitectSinan | greycat: thx again :) |
| 17:15.44 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'irrsi' returned no results. |
| 17:16.04 | abrotman | way to catch up |
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| 17:16.17 | dvs | ha! |
| 17:16.20 | ricky | thanks |
| 17:16.26 | dvs | dpkg: Lay off the weed |
| 17:16.27 | gravity | Thank god |
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| 17:16.41 | phretor | hi there |
| 17:16.49 | greycat | one of these days dpkg is going to cough up "Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'foobar hamm' returned no results." From 4 years ago.... |
| 17:16.57 | phretor | is it feasible to downgrade from unstable to stable? |
| 17:16.59 | abrotman | no |
| 17:17.01 | antgel__ | that was like an insight into the early days of computing |
| 17:17.02 | abrotman | not even close |
| 17:17.08 | antgel__ | !tell phretor about downgrade |
| 17:17.41 | gravity | phretor: If you hate life, yeah |
| 17:17.48 | elfspace | any link for a manual to configure tv card easily? |
| 17:17.55 | gravity | But that means you're on your own too |
| 17:17.56 | phretor | gravity: :-) l'll wait for KDE on unstable |
| 17:17.58 | abrotman | phretor: have you ever tried to downgrade a windows box ? |
| 17:18.02 | antgel__ | !googlesmite elfspace |
| 17:18.10 | phretor | abrotman: my god, can't thing about it! |
| 17:18.17 | goccia | today i've downgraded firefox to stable : i've changed my mind very very quickly |
| 17:18.48 | greycat | oh my. |
| 17:18.54 | pngwn | heh |
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| 17:19.40 | pulaski | hello, I use the gdm and generally default to the gnome window manager. I can't recall how it came about but now when I boot Debian sarge the default gdm sign on appears as normal but after I sign on instead of loading gnome or kde the window manager crashes and retuns to the sign on screne before loading a gnome or kde. I've reinstalled gdm to no avail so I think I may need to reinstall my xserver-common package. Has anyone experience this probl |
| 17:20.05 | antgel__ | !anyone else |
| 17:20.08 | greycat | gnome broken. what a shock. |
| 17:20.28 | pulaski | hmm greycat is this common? |
| 17:20.41 | moshii | pulaski: more ~/.xsession-errors |
| 17:20.49 | antgel__ | pulaski: what if you ditch the stupid gui login and try startx? |
| 17:20.55 | gravity | more? People still use more? |
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| 17:21.08 | moshii | gravity: it's in base.. |
| 17:21.27 | JeffH | a bunch of updates for courier stuff just hit sarge.. how can I tell what changed before I decide whether to install them? |
| 17:21.27 | antgel__ | s/more/pager/ |
| 17:21.38 | gravity | less is priority: standard |
| 17:21.41 | antgel__ | JeffH: subscribe to the security mailing list |
| 17:21.43 | gravity | So it should be most everywhere |
| 17:22.02 | antgel__ | JeffH: or read it on usenet, linux.debian.announce.security (i think) |
| 17:22.21 | wols_ | JeffH: security.debian.org |
| 17:22.22 | pulaski | I believe startx aslo fails to load however I need to try it again to be sure. Also thanks moshii. I'll look at the ~/.xsession-errors. |
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| 17:22.46 | abrotman | JeffH: just hit sarge? |
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| 17:22.47 | greycat | does gdm actually log in .xsession-errors? |
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| 17:22.50 | greycat | I thought it was .gnome-errors |
| 17:22.57 | antgel__ | JeffH: and to be precise, it's not the debian-security mailing list, it's debian-security-announce |
| 17:22.58 | abrotman | there was a DSA for courier? |
| 17:23.01 | antgel__ | yep |
| 17:23.11 | wols_ | abrotman: almost irrelevant |
| 17:23.14 | abrotman | when? |
| 17:23.19 | abrotman | olh i see it |
| 17:23.21 | wols_ | SPF is not working properly. |
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| 17:23.32 | pulaski | thanks moshii and others. |
| 17:23.32 | moshii | everything logs in .xsession-errors for me .. |
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| 17:23.51 | antgel__ | debian-security is more people going "upgrade mozilla", "no chuck mozilla out", "no, backport the fixes" |
| 17:24.15 | antgel__ | i would have helped backport fixes but apparently it's a political cauldron |
| 17:24.19 | abrotman | move mozilla to volatile :) |
| 17:24.26 | antgel__ | ah yes, that's the other one |
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| 17:24.39 | antgel__ | "no, volatile's for something else" |
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| 17:25.14 | goccia | debian security ? dont' know that : i see vim in proposed updates since a couple of week |
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| 17:25.25 | goccia | ks* |
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| 17:25.53 | sinplomo | hi |
| 17:26.05 | sinplomo | i have some problemas with udev |
| 17:26.14 | abrotman | where's Md now? :) |
| 17:26.22 | resiak | Okay, so I know that Sid is unsupported, etc, but. Since pulling in Sid's glibc, b-e and a few other gubbins (momentary lapse of sanity), the ./configure I'm attempting to run is dying with qq(configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check), and config.log contains all kinds of badness, which I will paste somewhere if wanted. AFAICT, the important bits are "/usr/include/limits.h:124:26: error: no include path in which to search for limi |
| 17:26.22 | sinplomo | that doesn't create /dev/fb* devices |
| 17:26.29 | gravity | Probably breaking udev ;-) |
| 17:26.29 | resiak | abrotman: Was that truncated? |
| 17:26.36 | abrotman | resiak: for me it was |
| 17:26.39 | resiak | abrotman: Where. |
| 17:26.45 | abrotman | search for lim |
| 17:26.46 | greycat | !faq resiak |
| 17:26.47 | dpkg | resiak: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:26.51 | antgel__ | resiak: spare us the rest :P |
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| 17:27.16 | antgel__ | resiak: what are you building? |
| 17:27.23 | abrotman | resiak: i'd tell you to check the bts .. but i'm sure there are a million filed on gcc4 :) |
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| 17:27.39 | resiak | greycat: Yes, I have b-e from Sid installed. |
| 17:27.52 | abrotman | resiak: did you do pinning ? |
| 17:28.13 | greycat | resiak: slash and burn. or, I mean, purge and install. |
| 17:28.18 | cmihai | Grr.... sex-spam bots on freenode really piss me off |
| 17:28.24 | abrotman | cmihai: /topic |
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| 17:28.38 | cmihai | Ah :) |
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| 17:28.50 | resiak | greycat: Yes, I'm preparing to do that as I speak. I just thought I'd ask you lovely people. |
| 17:28.57 | abrotman | i'm lovely! |
| 17:29.35 | resiak | antgel__: Gaim, since you ask. |
| 17:29.36 | greycat | !win abrotman |
| 17:29.36 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a one way ticket to Cleveland! |
| 17:29.44 | greycat | awwww, not the beauty contest one. :) |
| 17:29.47 | abrotman | cleveland rocks! |
| 17:29.59 | psychonate | I wake up to see my main box unresponsive :( |
| 17:30.07 | antgel__ | resiak: will the deb package not do? |
| 17:30.10 | psychonate | Had to reboot; I hate rebooting |
| 17:30.16 | psychonate | pisses me off |
| 17:30.25 | abrotman | psychonate: i haven't rebooted in .. like 2 hours |
| 17:30.36 | antgel__ | i have uptime of 48 years |
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| 17:30.42 | psychonate | IMO I shouldn't ever have to reboot unless I'm trying a new kernel |
| 17:30.44 | resiak | antgel__: I'm hacking on Gaim CVS, so no, the package won't do. |
| 17:30.46 | abrotman | antgel__: you need a nap |
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| 17:31.02 | abrotman | resiak: are you sure gaim compiles with gcc4? |
| 17:31.20 | psychonate | When something bad happens that requires me to reboot, I get so angry I immediately considering switching distributions |
| 17:31.21 | resiak | abrotman: No, I'm not. Not at all. :) |
| 17:31.22 | samuel | anyone know what i need to get the sound in realplayer working? does it use esd or alsa or what? |
| 17:31.28 | abrotman | resiak: oh .. good plan :) |
| 17:31.31 | goccia | hmm today i had to reboot cause "NSS related trouble" |
| 17:31.32 | antgel__ | resiak: if you're hacking on it, then sorting the configure error should be a piece of piss ;) |
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| 17:31.45 | resiak | antgel__: Hey, I never said that I was a autoconf ninja. |
| 17:31.57 | antgel__ | samuel: rp is so hated around here, you'll be lucky |
| 17:31.58 | psychonate | I see though that my second box also rebooted, which seems sort of strange, so I think it might've been a power thing |
| 17:32.04 | abrotman | heh .. i watching a baseball game .. the line reads 1 Run 0 Hits 0 Errors .. yay baseball |
| 17:32.06 | psychonate | I'll have to let it slide this time heh |
| 17:32.09 | antgel__ | psychonate: i rebooted them ;) |
| 17:32.17 | psychonate | DEVIL |
| 17:32.34 | samuel | antgel__, :( totem will play most everything, but rp is needed for some things |
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| 17:33.11 | antgel__ | resiak: seems a pity to reinstall if there is another option i.e. waiting for sid to be sane and upgrading to it |
| 17:33.38 | abrotman | !ninja resiak |
| 17:33.41 | antgel__ | resiak: what i'm saying is that it doesn't look like a compilation or link error, just an environment thing |
| 17:33.51 | abrotman | resiak: are you pinning ? |
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| 17:34.43 | greycat | too bad you get such a low "score" when you achieve a conquest victory in SMAC and don't take the time to boost your population to insane levels |
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| 17:34.48 | resiak | antgel__: Yes. cc1plus seems not to be where /lib/cpp expects it to be. To be honest, pulling in the bits of Sid was an accident/momentary lapse of sanity, so. |
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| 17:35.18 | resiak | abrotman: No. I have Default-Release "testing"; though. |
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| 17:35.25 | greycat | !pal resiak |
| 17:35.49 | antgel__ | resiak: what i'm saying is that if you're good enough to hack on gaim, you are probably good enough to get to the bottom of this and work around it. good learning experience. |
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| 17:35.51 | chealer | greycat: please don't mention that game when I'm here unless you can give me a couple weeks of free time :-P |
| 17:36.11 | resiak | greycat: Yes, I know. I already feel like a fool. That works well enough for pulling in individual packages from Sid, and I never intended to do this. |
| 17:36.25 | resiak | antgel__: No, I'm not, really. |
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| 17:37.19 | abrotman | resiak: /msg dpkg pinning .. the last url describes it pretty well .. i'd try that then install b-e |
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| 17:37.35 | abrotman | !beer me |
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| 17:37.42 | abrotman | !tell root_ about root |
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| 17:38.09 | antgel__ | can we not get the bot to tell root? |
| 17:38.24 | help | if i compile a program using g++ with -mwindows option will it produce a exe ? |
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| 17:38.25 | abrotman | antgel__: since they changed the host thing .. it doesn't work .. |
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| 17:38.32 | madclicker | what is the best way to copy files & dirs from one system to another? |
| 17:38.35 | abrotman | goccia: /topic ? |
| 17:38.45 | abrotman | madclicker: rsync .. didn't we say that the other day ? |
| 17:38.45 | goccia | abrotman: yes :) |
| 17:38.56 | goccia | abrotman: is a goff for sure :) |
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| 17:39.02 | greycat | madclicker: or tar | ssh tar |
| 17:39.03 | madclicker | abrotman: wasn't me |
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| 17:39.12 | greycat | but rsync is certainly a good answer. |
| 17:39.20 | sinplomo | madclicker, man scp :) |
| 17:39.25 | madclicker | greycat: not enough space |
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| 17:39.34 | greycat | madclicker: are you fucking STUPID? |
| 17:39.44 | greycat | never mind, that's a rhetorical question. |
| 17:39.47 | antgel__ | madclicker: scp is fine and simple for a one-off |
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| 17:40.01 | greycat | please note, I did *not* say: "tar; scp; tar" |
| 17:40.05 | greycat | I said "tar | ssh tar" |
| 17:40.13 | EmleyMoor | What do I need to do to stop my wireless interface being brought up at boot time, rather to have it wait for wpa_supplicant to start? Debian system |
| 17:40.32 | madclicker | greycat: in english please |
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| 17:40.39 | abrotman | that was english |
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| 17:41.34 | antgel__ | EmleyMoor: man interfaces |
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| 17:42.02 | madclicker | abrotman: does it mean "tar and copy?" |
| 17:42.07 | abrotman | use rsync |
| 17:42.08 | BorD | ever see eth0 not come up on boot, then come up fine if you ifdown / ifup it? |
| 17:42.16 | madclicker | got it |
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| 17:43.06 | abrotman | BorD: yes |
| 17:43.09 | abrotman | BorD: pcmcia? |
| 17:43.12 | BorD | nope |
| 17:43.15 | BorD | desktop machine |
| 17:43.27 | Slippy | BorD: have you set it to come up auto* in etc/network/interfaces? |
| 17:43.38 | EmleyMoor | Just let me be sure I've understood this correctly: if I omit "auto", will that do it or do I need to allow something else? |
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| 17:43.53 | greycat | dpkg, ssh tar is what we use when we don't have rsync. cd /somewhere; tar cf - . | ssh me@remotebox 'cd /somewhere && tar xvf -' |
| 17:43.53 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
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| 17:44.05 | knowsNot | hi |
| 17:44.07 | shingouz | EmleyMoor: removing "auto" should do the trick |
| 17:44.07 | joefso3 | How do I configure my box to use dhcp, and when it does it has to request a certain adress x.x.x.x |
| 17:44.20 | BorD | i do. |
| 17:44.29 | greycat | joefso3: uh. if you know what address you want, WHY use dhcp? |
| 17:44.55 | antgel__ | joefso3: you can configure that on the dhcp server for a given mac address and what greycat said |
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| 17:45.45 | madclicker | antgel__: would scp change file permissions on the new host? |
| 17:46.14 | madclicker | greycat: got it |
| 17:46.19 | antgel__ | madclicker: don't think so. why not have a go, man scp etc |
| 17:46.23 | joefso3 | greycat: I have a broadband router, and it has to use dhcp to assign to it, so the adress has to be for example set somewhere, if I want a specific adress. For example /etc/init.d/network start grabs just a adress, while modifying something in /etc/dhclient.conf and setting a adress with ifconfig and then (re-)starting the network, it has the specific one. |
| 17:47.00 | joefso3 | But after rebooting the computer, it just has the random one again. |
| 17:47.04 | madclicker | antgel__: am browsing through it, just noticed no options for "file permissions" |
| 17:47.08 | joefso3 | I need to have a specific one because I use NAT. |
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| 17:48.14 | greycat | fix your router. get the manuals. |
| 17:48.36 | shingouz | joefso3: the router needs to have the dhcp client enabled for the public interface. you do not need to run the dhcp server on the router for your lan if you do not want to run it. if you know the ip you want, just configure it statically |
| 17:48.43 | joefso3 | greycat: it has a www interface, the manual doesn't specify any special handling or doing to get a specific adress. |
| 17:49.02 | wols_ | joefso3: just use static IPs and be done with it. DHCP is not a necessity you know |
| 17:49.07 | shingouz | joefso3: public or private ip? |
| 17:49.27 | joefso3 | shingouz: intern is randomly choosen, while public is static. |
| 17:49.51 | moshii | joefso3: pick an ip which isn't in the range used by DHCP on the router .. |
| 17:49.58 | moshii | joefso3: and use it... |
| 17:50.01 | shingouz | joefso3: why the hell do you need to have the dhcp server on in the first place is beyond me |
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| 17:50.28 | wols_ | shingouz: cause all consumre trash comes with it by default and people don't know how to set IPs statically |
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| 17:50.44 | moshii | shingouz: DHCP is nice if you have a bunch of wireless clients etc |
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| 17:51.11 | shingouz | moshii: i hope you do not have even wep enabled on your wlans :p |
| 17:51.41 | shingouz | wols_: that does not explain why it has to be running. i do agree on the defaults though |
| 17:52.29 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:52.31 | moshii | shingouz: anything that is worth protecting is done over ssh ;) |
| 17:52.38 | abrotman | !Moo |
| 17:52.38 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! apt-get moo. http://bugs.debian.org/175939, or cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
| 17:52.40 | shingouz | joefso3: just do what wols_ said or disable the dhcp entirely |
| 17:53.04 | shingouz | moshii: that is a beginning |
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| 17:53.36 | henke | greycat, streuner, thanks for your help, I found the problem. portmap was not installed on the client. I didn't even know that was necessary. |
| 17:54.21 | moshii | shingouz: the people around here don't know what a computer is, let alone how to steal my data off the air ;) |
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| 17:55.29 | wols_ | moshii: the main problem is not them stealing your data, but leeching on your intarweb access |
| 17:55.31 | streuner | henke: to be honest, apt-get install nfs-kernel-server installs by default portmapper so i wouldn't ask for that... |
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| 17:56.23 | moshii | wols_: they'd start a witch hunt if they knew the internet was in the air too |
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| 17:56.27 | greycat | I guess he wasn't clear on what the CLIENT side needs. |
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| 17:56.33 | resiak | abrotman: According to apt-cache policy, the priorities of testing vs unstable are already 990 vs 500, so I don't see how pinning would help |
| 17:56.35 | shingouz | moshii: have you considered that it is pretty easy to move around with a wlan enabled laptop... :p |
| 17:56.36 | poncho | Hello! |
| 17:56.45 | abrotman | resiak: i was just asking! |
| 17:56.54 | tchino | i have the problem with fetchmail, that /etc/fetchmailrc must be own by local user, but i execute tham with sudo |
| 17:57.06 | streuner | greycat: odd, that NFS works at all with delay |
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| 17:57.14 | abrotman | resiak: but you've tried to install b-e etc again? |
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| 17:58.01 | resiak | abrotman: i haven't actually done the pinning stuff yet... I was just remarking. |
| 17:58.07 | Caelum | what's the most up-to-date man page site to link to |
| 17:58.12 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 17:58.12 | moshii | shingouz: it's all living for the weekend types around here, they have better things to do like drinking themselves to death |
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| 17:58.18 | greycat | Caelum: www.openbsd.org |
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| 17:58.42 | Caelum | greycat: cool, what about for linux? |
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| 17:58.47 | greycat | !pal Caelum |
| 17:59.06 | henke | streuner, I don't install the nfs-kernel-server on the client |
| 17:59.19 | greycat | there probably are some linux man page subsets out there, somewhere, but why doesn't www.debian.org have them? |
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| 17:59.21 | henke | streuner, but I needed nfs-common. |
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| 17:59.32 | poncho | I'm having problems setting the file associations on KDE (Sarge) - They are not saved |
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| 17:59.41 | Caelum | greycat: I think it used to, a few years back |
| 17:59.51 | greycat | I linked to some from the FAQ. |
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| 18:00.00 | priest | http://wideopenbsd.org |
| 18:00.02 | greycat | tarzeau's got a few installed, but it's just whatever he happens to have apt-got. |
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| 18:01.02 | Devrethman | how do i mount software raids in a liveCD |
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| 18:01.28 | streuner | Devrethman: knoppix? |
| 18:01.32 | Devrethman | yea |
| 18:01.38 | streuner | #knoppix |
| 18:01.39 | greycat | how would we know? we arent' a liveCD distro. |
| 18:01.49 | Devrethman | good point |
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| 18:02.15 | Devrethman | casue i'm trying to get debian working cause it got screwed up and it's too early in the morning for me to think right... |
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| 18:02.33 | poncho | !hello |
| 18:02.33 | dpkg | Hi, poncho! |
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| 18:03.08 | Caelum | greycat: all the linux man sites I've just looked to are incredibly out of date :) |
| 18:03.15 | gigabytes | hi all |
| 18:03.19 | greycat | I am not surprised. |
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| 18:03.32 | gigabytes | I currently have testing |
| 18:03.48 | beardy | Couldn't you have helped him on the same line as you redirected him? |
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| 18:04.13 | greycat | beardy: what are you talking about? |
| 18:04.34 | gigabytes | I want to dist-upgrade to sid, and I saw that there is kde 3.4 in sid. is it true or am I drinking too much wine? |
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| 18:04.44 | greycat | !info konqueror sid |
| 18:04.47 | dpkg | konqueror: (KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer), section web, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1962 kB, Installed size: 4587 kB |
| 18:04.53 | shingouz | gigabytes: you do not want to go to sid |
| 18:05.00 | wols_ | gigabytes: you drink too much. kde is apparently broken in sid someone earlier said |
| 18:05.07 | wols_ | so wait a little before you install it |
| 18:05.20 | shingouz | gigabytes: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 18:05.28 | emergo | is there any good dvd burning software besides k3b that have templates for dvd video ? |
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| 18:05.39 | wols_ | shingouz: it's resposn |
| 18:05.50 | wols_ | responsible to tell him that, but you know it's futile |
| 18:06.00 | gigabytes | wols_, how long do you think I should wait? |
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| 18:06.03 | poncho | dpkg know its all! |
| 18:06.04 | shingouz | wols_: unfortunately i know that |
| 18:06.16 | thgjerde | how do i skip partitioning in d-i? |
| 18:06.16 | wols_ | gigabytes: until it's fixed |
| 18:06.20 | gigabytes | :) |
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| 18:06.48 | shingouz | gigabytes: you should wait until you do not have to ask about it. running sid when you are not ready for the bugs and brokenness will just bork your system |
| 18:06.49 | chealer | gigabytes: ask #debian-kde |
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| 18:08.18 | gigabytes | shingouz, I've being run sid since 2003. but I reinstalled yesterday and when I install debian I usually upgrade to testing before sid |
| 18:08.20 | Caelum | greycat: this one is decent, http://annys.eines.info/cgi-bin/man/man2html not fully up to date, but at least seems to be using the same man pages debian does |
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| 18:08.36 | nefarius | dpkg/apt is taking up a lot of space in var |
| 18:08.41 | gigabytes | shingouz, so I know perfectly that using sid means have to deal with bugs and brokeness |
| 18:08.48 | nefarius | to the tune of almost 2 gigs, esp. in /var/cache |
| 18:08.56 | nefarius | how do i stop it from being so piggy |
| 18:08.57 | greycat | nefarius: so remove some. |
| 18:09.03 | thgjerde | how do i install debian on unusual block devices? |
| 18:09.09 | goccia | gigabytes: try kde3.4.1 from alioth if you cant' wait |
| 18:09.09 | shingouz | gigabytes: most people who ask what you asked do not |
| 18:09.30 | goccia | gigabytes: i'm using it on sarge |
| 18:09.50 | chealer | most =~ all - 1 |
| 18:09.50 | greycat | cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
| 18:09.54 | greycat | argh! |
| 18:09.58 | gigabytes | shingouz, what do I asked?? I only asked if it was true that kde 3.4 has been pushed in sid... I didn't talk about bugs, brokeness or whatever... |
| 18:10.03 | gigabytes | *did I asked* |
| 18:10.11 | nefarius | haha greycat |
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| 18:10.14 | gigabytes | *did I ask* :) |
| 18:10.26 | greycat | gigabytes: then shut up. |
| 18:10.35 | gigabytes | yes |
| 18:10.37 | gigabytes | then bye bye |
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| 18:10.42 | nsk | does running tar -cf on a binary file eats more CPU/RAM resources than running it on a text file ? |
| 18:11.00 | greycat | nsk: tar doesn't care what color bytes you have in your data files |
| 18:11.06 | emergo | k3b uses cd player both for dvd recording and cdrecordin .... |
| 18:11.08 | beardy | nsk: A file is a file is a file is a file. |
| 18:11.15 | thgjerde | where can i get help about installing debian? |
| 18:11.16 | greycat | gzip might dare. |
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| 18:11.20 | greycat | *care |
| 18:11.30 | greycat | !install guide |
| 18:11.30 | dpkg | i heard install guide is sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
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| 18:12.08 | greycat | great. |
| 18:12.14 | basix | hi people. i have two NICs in my debian router which connect to two different ISPs. I want both the connections, together, to behave as one. How would i do it? Is bridging related to it? |
| 18:12.22 | emergo | can I install an old version of k3b otfix this |
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| 18:12.30 | wols_ | basix: not possible |
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| 18:12.56 | basix | wols_: why? |
| 18:13.06 | wols_ | cause tcpip won't work that way |
| 18:13.06 | samuel | lets hope these bots dont start registering their names |
| 18:13.43 | greycat | by october we'll be talking about hashcash |
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| 18:13.47 | basix | wols_: is it possible if i have two connections from the same isp? |
| 18:13.58 | greycat | basix: if the ISP cooperates, maybe. |
| 18:14.06 | WhiteRabbit | basix, your talking about the mac |
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| 18:14.16 | goccia | anyway : today i had a go with libc6 on sarge (i know i know..) : all the messsages were wonderful , searching for daemons and stopping them ...and most importantant :PERFECT : i'm really happy :) |
| 18:14.25 | basix | WhiteRabbit: what? |
| 18:14.35 | wols_ | basix: only if the ISP helps you |
| 18:14.44 | basix | wols_: in what way? |
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| 18:14.55 | greycat | voodoo. |
| 18:15.01 | wols_ | basix: he has to do the same things you are doing at your end |
| 18:15.10 | kevin06 | I am trying to install the nVidia video drivers, but it tells me that I do not have the kernel source. I installed the proper /deb, but I am not sure where it is located. What is the proper path to the kernel-source? |
| 18:15.16 | wols_ | basix: but since no consumer ISP ever will do that, just forget it |
| 18:15.17 | greycat | !nvidia one-liner |
| 18:15.17 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 18:15.22 | greycat | !nvidia |
| 18:15.22 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia was DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
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| 18:15.41 | thgjerde | debian-installer fails to detect my root filesystem, how do i tell her it manually? |
| 18:15.42 | WhiteRabbit | basix, do you have a Dual WAN router? |
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| 18:15.47 | vortek | hello :) |
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| 18:15.59 | basix | wols_: what is this bridging interfaces about? a friend told me that may work... |
| 18:16.03 | basix | WhiteRabbit: nope |
| 18:16.04 | wols_ | WhiteRabbit: he has a debian box which plays a router on TV |
| 18:16.09 | greycat | thgjerde: have you tried expert mode yet? |
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| 18:16.12 | WhiteRabbit | ah |
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| 18:16.22 | thgjerde | graycat: yes |
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| 18:16.29 | vortek | Any one recomend a good sound config program for configuring base for sound ? |
| 18:16.31 | greycat | ok, then you're past my experience. |
| 18:16.34 | WhiteRabbit | from the way he had asked his question I assumed he meant the mac address |
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| 18:16.37 | vortek | aumix doesnt do it realy |
| 18:16.38 | wols_ | basix: it's to get two networks together. to "bridge" them. and no, it won't help you one bit. yours is related to load balancing |
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| 18:16.44 | greycat | vortek: you mean "bass"? |
| 18:16.49 | vortek | yeah lol |
| 18:16.55 | greycat | wols_: I think you're talking about "bonding" |
| 18:17.06 | EvanCarroll | I'm getting spammer after entering! |
| 18:17.09 | wols_ | greycat: or that yes |
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| 18:17.15 | vortek | greycat, yeah |
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| 18:17.18 | basix | wols_: where would i get more info about this? Give me a term that i need to search in google... |
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| 18:17.49 | wols_ | basix: greycat just gave you one. but it's futile unless your ISP cooperates which he won't do. so go away and forget it |
| 18:17.51 | cahoot | vortek: not using alsa? |
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| 18:18.04 | basix | wols_: awww ok :( |
| 18:18.05 | Pendrag0n | Hello room, I have a box with deb packages for both var/cache/apt/archives/libdbd-mysql-perl_1.2216-2_i386.deb and var//cache/apt/archives/libdbd-mysql-perl_2.9006-1_i386.deb |
| 18:18.14 | vortek | cahoot, yeah im using alsa with os modules |
| 18:18.16 | Pendrag0n | in aptitude, I can only see the old version |
| 18:18.21 | Pendrag0n | I need to install the new version |
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| 18:18.36 | Pendrag0n | how do I change it so aptitude uses the new version (I am running woody) |
| 18:18.38 | thgjerde | how do i skip partitioning in debian-installer? |
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| 18:18.39 | cahoot | vortek: alsamixer lets you manipulate bass |
| 18:18.42 | basix | one more question. why the hell am i getting PMs(spam) on IRC??? |
| 18:18.44 | vortek | k |
| 18:18.51 | greycat | basix: in practice, the best way you can benefit from a second ISP connection would be to pick some range of IP addresses and route *those* through ISP#2, and let ISP#1 be the default |
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| 18:19.09 | wols_ | basix: cause #debian is under attack from bots. read the topic |
| 18:19.11 | basix | greycat: oki |
| 18:19.12 | greycat | basix: anything more than that, you must do a LOT of research before you even understand what questions to ask. |
| 18:19.12 | ledet | Pendrag0n: perhaps consider upgrading to sarge? |
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| 18:19.19 | beardy | basix: /topic |
| 18:19.22 | cahoot | vortek: at least for an Audigy |
| 18:19.24 | Pendrag0n | I can't on this box |
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| 18:19.38 | wols_ | basix: or route certain protocols on the 2nd ISP only |
| 18:19.48 | greycat | *nod* |
| 18:19.48 | Pendrag0n | I am just trying to install bugzilla for a client, it needs that perl mod |
| 18:20.01 | Pendrag0n | I just don't know how to edit that part of aptitude |
| 18:20.08 | basix | wols_: not a bad idea :) thanks |
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| 18:20.50 | Pendrag0n | can anyone here help me? |
| 18:20.55 | greycat | Pendrag0n: unlikely. |
| 18:21.01 | ledet | Pendrag0n: get the module source and use dh-make-perl to make a backport of the newest version.. |
| 18:21.12 | ledet | Pendrag0n: thats probably your best bet |
| 18:21.12 | greycat | there's very little interest in backporting big complex things like mysql to woody when sarge is stable. |
| 18:21.14 | Eulex | Pendrag0n, two options: 1. find a backport somewhere. 2. compile it yourself |
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| 18:21.27 | Pendrag0n | I don't know how to install from a .deb |
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| 18:21.35 | greycat | what the FUCK. |
| 18:21.38 | ledet | Pendrag0n: man dpkg |
| 18:21.43 | Pendrag0n | I've been reading on http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html |
| 18:21.50 | poncho | bye. |
| 18:21.55 | poncho | !bye |
| 18:21.55 | dpkg | Cya, poncho |
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| 18:22.14 | Eulex | Pendrag0n, you shouldn't install packages made for sarge on woody |
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| 18:22.20 | vortek | hr m no real bass adjustments there |
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| 18:22.30 | vortek | I know it has base cause in wintendo I get a little more base |
| 18:22.32 | vortek | er bass |
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| 18:22.50 | vortek | All your bass r belong to xp |
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| 18:22.56 | lac | my emacs keybindings have stopped working in #debian. |
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| 18:23.11 | Caelum | Pendrag0n: if you want to backport stuff, you kinda have to use apt-get source ... and apt-get build-dep |
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| 18:23.29 | lac | I have redone everything on I have done everything on http://kb.mozillazine.org/Emacs_Keybindings_%28Firefox%29 |
| 18:23.33 | vortek | Ok more importantly how do I get this touchpad adjusted its a compaq .. you barely hover your fingers over it and it some times thinks your clicking. |
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| 18:23.49 | greycat | Caelum: if he doesn't even know how to install a .deb file, he gonna have a hell of a time building backports of anything that has -mysql- in it. |
| 18:23.50 | ubuntuser | how to register user on channel |
| 18:23.51 | ubuntuser | ? |
| 18:23.56 | greycat | ubuntuser: /msg nickserv help |
| 18:24.01 | lac | but due to problems with my wifi |
| 18:24.08 | ubuntuser | thx |
| 18:24.12 | basix | hey, this is a nice article: http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1824/sam0201h/0201h.htm |
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| 18:24.23 | Caelum | vortek: try tpconfig |
| 18:24.28 | lac | I have to run a debian version that /etc/debian_version says is 3.1 |
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| 18:24.35 | xixor | Hey everyone. I just gotta say that i've been using Debian for about 9 years, but I haven't used it very seriously in the last year and a half or so. I just gotta say that for the first time on a new computer (presario 2500 laptop), that the sound, wireless network, video, X finally went without too much of a hitch, or a single kernel compile |
| 18:24.39 | greycat | lac: that's sarge |
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| 18:24.45 | lac | could that have any problems in interacting with firefox? |
| 18:24.57 | greycat | lac: the most recent firefox security update in sarge is broken |
| 18:25.05 | EmleyMoor | I'm still having problems - I can resolve hostnames just fine with host, whereupon ssh and xchat, for example, cope with them, but if I try ssh or xchat before, it resolves the hostnames to 1.0.0.0 |
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| 18:25.23 | Eulex | lac, what has emacs, wifi and firefox got to do with each other? :) |
| 18:25.30 | EmleyMoor | Also, is there a way to inhibit dhcp on an interface if it isn't connected to anything? |
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| 18:25.38 | EvanCarroll | Hey everyone. Respect me, I have been using debian for int(rand(100)) YEARS now.... blah... |
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| 18:25.48 | kaktus | Hi! I've set up my X server wrong. How can I change the displayrate so that it will work on my portable? I also need to change the keyboard layout? How can I do so with bash-commands? |
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| 18:26.07 | PeterB | !drxx kaktus |
| 18:26.08 | dpkg | kaktus: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 18:26.20 | lac | Eulex: I want emacs bindings in my firefox, and they have stopped working. |
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| 18:26.33 | lac | I wanted to know if it was a debian problem. |
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| 18:26.48 | lac | if firefox on sarge is broken, then maybe it is. |
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| 18:26.57 | goccia | Eulex: exacltly :wifi and firefox are crap :) |
| 18:26.59 | greycat | lac: try downgrading to -2 instead of -2.sarge.2 |
| 18:27.01 | kaktus | thanks dpkg |
| 18:27.13 | ArtistAgent | hi all... say i did a d |
| 18:27.20 | ArtistAgent | oops |
| 18:27.22 | ArtistAgent | try again |
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| 18:27.39 | kaktus | I have an old laptop. What driver should I use for my displaycard? |
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| 18:27.46 | kaktus | neomagic? |
| 18:27.50 | greycat | |
| 18:27.53 | shingouz | !tell kaktus about laptop |
| 18:28.07 | greycat | "old". wow, so precise. |
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| 18:28.13 | vortek | Caelum, it says no touch pad or synaptics device found |
| 18:28.15 | antgel__ | kaktus: use the old driver |
| 18:28.29 | lac | ok greycat. thank you. |
| 18:28.30 | vortek | im using it right now I know its there lol |
| 18:28.30 | shingouz | kaktus: of course the proper driver depends on the chipset your laptop has |
| 18:28.51 | Eulex | vortek, then it probably uses the ps/2 driver |
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| 18:29.26 | vortek | Eulex, any idea on how to turn tapclick off |
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| 18:29.32 | vortek | or adjust it |
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| 18:29.57 | kamaraj1 | test |
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| 18:30.08 | antgel__ | EmleyMoor: cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:30.19 | ArtistAgent | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.30 | greycat | !disk space |
| 18:30.30 | dpkg | Use df(1) to see a summary of the disk space used and remaining across all file systems. Use "cd /foo && du -kx --max-depth=1" to see which subdirectories of /foo are using lots of space. (You can sort it with -n, too, if you wish.) |
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| 18:30.56 | antgel__ | lac: emacs bindings in your firefox? g-d help us all! |
| 18:31.07 | Eulex | vortek, use the synaptic driver; the ps/2 driver will just use defaults that your software can't do a shit about |
| 18:31.10 | xixor | quick question: I have a laptop cooler that gets power from the USB. Is there a quick way to turn the USB's on to give this device power? |
| 18:31.27 | dexter__ | Wich version is the good one? sarge? It was a while ago i used Debian :P |
| 18:31.30 | greycat | modprobe the uhci or ohci driver? |
| 18:31.35 | vortek | xixor, not that I know of honestly |
| 18:31.38 | greycat | !sarge |
| 18:31.38 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>, or i guess sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released in one time... read the release notes at http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 18:31.38 | vortek | greycat may know |
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| 18:32.16 | vortek | Eulex, : so to i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and tell it that way ? |
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| 18:32.24 | kaktus | I have not connected any mouse to the laptop. Planning to use the integrated pad. How do I set up that in the installation? |
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| 18:32.33 | Ox12 | hello, How to install tcl on my box please? |
| 18:32.44 | antgel__ | kaktus: do you read the channel or just type inanely? |
| 18:33.33 | antgel__ | Ox12: apt-cache search tcl? |
| 18:33.33 | dexter__ | I can't find a link to sarge, seriously. |
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| 18:33.33 | greycat | kaktus: it'll be a standard PS/2 mouse. |
| 18:33.34 | Ox12 | yes, which package antgel__? |
| 18:33.34 | dexter__ | Is sarge the stable version? |
| 18:33.34 | greycat | Ox12: duh. |
| 18:33.35 | EmleyMoor | sarge is old |
| 18:33.35 | greycat | dexter__: /lastlog sarge |
| 18:33.36 | Ox12 | :| |
| 18:33.36 | antgel__ | dexter__: www.debian.org/releases |
| 18:33.39 | EmleyMoor | Erm... |
| 18:33.44 | EmleyMoor | No, sarge is stable |
| 18:34.02 | KTL | how long 'll the kde ABI upgrade take? |
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| 18:34.12 | Ox12 | tcl8.4 - Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files |
| 18:34.15 | Ox12 | this?! |
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| 18:34.26 | antgel__ | Ox12: be dangerous, try it |
| 18:34.27 | Eulex | vortek, http://tuxmobil.org/touchpad_driver.html |
| 18:34.37 | greycat | antgel__: insanity! |
| 18:34.37 | antgel__ | how much clearer could it be? |
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| 18:34.38 | Ox12 | oh man comeone, lol |
| 18:34.47 | Ox12 | antgel__: thats the one I need?! |
| 18:34.48 | Ox12 | :\ |
| 18:34.59 | antgel__ | Ox12: ^^^ |
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| 18:35.21 | Ox12 | heh |
| 18:35.29 | kaktus | greycat: so should I select the one thats |
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| 18:35.35 | antgel__ | Ox12: as much as i feel like a rubbernecker, yes, i think that's the one you need |
| 18:35.43 | kaktus | that's called /dev/input/mice? |
| 18:35.48 | greycat | kaktus: no. |
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| 18:36.18 | kaktus | what about /dev/psaux/ ? |
| 18:36.27 | goccia | sarge rocks : all this problems say : firefox xorg kernel 2.6.11 libc6 they do work on sarge |
| 18:36.31 | chealer | KTL: ask #debian-kde |
| 18:36.36 | greycat | 'tain't no / on the end of /dev/psaux |
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| 18:36.52 | KTL | chealer, tnx |
| 18:36.56 | vortek | Eulex, ayeah its a ps/2 synaptics |
| 18:36.56 | antgel__ | omg, i'm building a sync4j connector, and i have jsut discovered a <insert insult> tool called ant. it's like make but with <insert insult> makefiles |
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| 18:37.00 | kaktus | no, sorry. But is that the one? |
| 18:37.01 | vortek | ill check that url |
| 18:37.08 | greycat | goccia: sarge has firefox, xfree86, and kernel 2.6.8 |
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| 18:37.18 | Ox12 | ok i installed tcl8.4 and tcl8.4-dev, any more packages i should install? |
| 18:37.24 | bibe | goccia : firefox on sarge (the latest version from security-updates) works with some major bugs |
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| 18:37.30 | kamaraju | How can I disable entered the room, left the room messages in gaim when chatting on #debian or other channel? |
| 18:37.32 | antgel__ | Ox12: the ones you want |
| 18:37.33 | goccia | greycat: no : but they do works on sarge :) |
| 18:37.36 | greycat | Ox12: too bad "a clue" isn't packaged. |
| 18:37.46 | kaktus | greycat: no, sorry. But is that the one? |
| 18:38.04 | Ox12 | i just need to load an eggdrop, and i need tcl.. do i need to install any other packages? :( |
| 18:38.04 | spackes1 | howdy, anyone got a a nice apt source that I can install ant from on amd64? |
| 18:38.04 | antgel__ | was i this sarcastic a month ago or did i become tainted? |
| 18:38.17 | goccia | bibe: i've dove thet fix today then i went back to sid firefox : libc6 included |
| 18:38.21 | goccia | done* |
| 18:38.24 | greycat | antgel__: #debian has that effect. |
| 18:38.26 | chealer | kamaraju: ask #gaim |
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| 18:38.47 | greycat | Ox12: fucking TRY IT! |
| 18:38.49 | cahoot | antgel: I believe ther's a sociological term for the process |
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| 18:38.59 | kamaraju | chealer: thanks. I will do that. |
| 18:39.06 | Ox12 | :D |
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| 18:39.10 | goccia | greycat: i believe it is just a matter of a few twils to get some stuff from sid on sarge |
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| 18:39.16 | goccia | twiks* |
| 18:39.16 | bibe | goccia : went _back_? isn't firefox from sid version 1.0.6? |
| 18:39.24 | greycat | goccia: and *Totally* unsupported. |
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| 18:39.55 | antgel__ | i have a windows system. i was recompiling my arse when my mouse stopped working. how can i get scroll lock to stay on during boot? and why does my soundcard beep whenever my ethernet card receives a packet? and how do i email? |
| 18:40.01 | goccia | greycat: i know but is working : no need to complain about debian :) |
| 18:40.14 | Rassah | Hi kinda new to linux. Was wondering if someone could give me a shell command to force it to go through a directory tree recursively, and rename every instance of Clean to clean (lowercase c)? |
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| 18:40.16 | black13 | how is unionfs added to kernel i downloaded the sources but didnt file a patch |
| 18:40.26 | antgel__ | !tell Rassah about rename |
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| 18:40.33 | greycat | antgel__: heh |
| 18:40.34 | Eulex | antgel, for the sound card, try muting all channels that you don't need |
| 18:40.35 | antgel__ | doh |
| 18:40.39 | bibe | Rassah : try rename, or find |
| 18:40.48 | Rassah | I know about rn, just not the part about searching and doing it recursively :/ |
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| 18:41.18 | antgel__ | Eulex: i would, but my mixer doesn't work except if i hold F2 the whole time |
| 18:41.19 | Kvant | Rassah, find . -name Clean -exec mv -i {} clean \; |
| 18:41.25 | Rassah | oh, wait, rename, not rn. Cool :D |
| 18:41.25 | witch | Hi! |
| 18:41.39 | antgel__ | Rassah: what Kvant said. find is a tool and a half. |
| 18:41.48 | bibe | Rassah : Kvant wrote faster than me. ;) |
| 18:42.07 | witch | Ich habe ein Problem mit meiner Systemzeit unter Sarge auf einem PPC - Degfault-Installation. |
| 18:42.12 | black13 | does anyone know to use the nickserv password i am trying to get into the ubuntu channel but its getting spammed |
| 18:42.16 | antgel__ | although i shall never forget my ex-nortel colleague telling me that grep was his favourite tool. don't think he was joking. |
| 18:42.17 | PeterB | !de |
| 18:42.17 | dpkg | well, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 18:42.23 | bibe | witch : try #debian-de |
| 18:42.24 | goccia | bibe: amazing : i kept logs : "Preparing to replace libc6... and so on : i've been asked three times for a y/n : at the end i have the latest *safe* firefox |
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| 18:42.54 | witch | Die Systemuhr geht erheblich nach und wird anscheinend automatisch in die Hardware-Uhr übertragen, wenn der Shutdown läuft. |
| 18:43.28 | Devrethman | how do i compile a 64 bit kernel on a 32 bit box? |
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| 18:43.38 | bibe | goccia : sure, but you don't have security updates. Obviously it's a matter of opinion |
| 18:43.42 | Rassah | oooh, that screwed things up a bit |
| 18:44.00 | witch | Ouch, sorry, wron channel or language. |
| 18:44.21 | goccia | bibe: of course : before i've cheched the downgrade back to normal : works as well : debian rules :) |
| 18:44.23 | Rassah | I ran it from /temp, with folders being /temp/temp1/Clean, and is just moved the Clean folder to /temp/clean, outside of the temp1 |
| 18:45.24 | Devrethman | ...? |
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| 18:45.38 | remyforbes777 | hey guys |
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| 18:45.52 | remyforbes777 | imhaving a problem with ubuntu 64 |
| 18:45.57 | antgel__ | !ubuntu |
| 18:45.57 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian> |
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| 18:46.13 | remyforbes777 | yeah i know dpkg |
| 18:46.17 | Rassah | find . -name Clean -exec mv -i {} clean \; returns ./temp1/Clean |
| 18:46.30 | Rassah | I meant ./temp1/Clean: No such file or directory |
| 18:46.45 | Rassah | it just makes a clean folder in root |
| 18:46.52 | Rassah | I meant in the folder I run it from |
| 18:47.02 | goccia | bibe: 1.0.6-2 needed three extra debs so was easy to downgrade , now 1.0.6-3 ask for libc6 and more . i have logs and i can get the system back to normal |
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| 18:47.03 | witch | hmm.. seems there is nobody talking in #debian.de. I'll try here |
| 18:47.08 | remyforbes777 | kde and gnome is freezing up on me at boot, I installed ubuntu 64 on an amd turion laptop |
| 18:47.16 | drac | remyforbes777: #ubuntu |
| 18:47.31 | remyforbes777 | #ubuntu is not working right now |
| 18:47.37 | kamaraju | witch: you can try. But please post in english. |
| 18:47.46 | witch | PPC, sarge, default installation hardware clock quite well but system clock lacks time |
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| 18:48.04 | kamaraju | remyforbes777: ubuntu is not debian. join #ubuntu |
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| 18:48.13 | Gnea | remyforbes777: you will ask in #ubuntu |
| 18:48.22 | remyforbes777 | isnt it a debian derivative |
| 18:48.23 | witch | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.28 | antgel__ | remyforbes777: you can fix that by installing debian |
| 18:48.28 | gravity | remyforbes777: Doesn't matter |
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| 18:48.34 | wols | remyforbes777: identify yourself against nickserv and #ubuntu will "work" |
| 18:48.35 | Gnea | remyforbes777: but it is not actually debian |
| 18:48.40 | spackes1 | anyone got a a nice apt source that I can install ant/glic from on amd64? |
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| 18:48.52 | Dreamer3 | is there a way to tell apt-get to ignore dependencies? |
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| 18:49.00 | remyforbes777 | how do you do that wols |
| 18:49.10 | chealer | spackes1: try asking #debian-amd64 |
| 18:49.12 | wols | remyforbes777: /msg nickserv help |
| 18:49.15 | Devrethman | how do I compile a kernel for amd64 on a x86 system |
| 18:49.22 | goccia | the thing is : firefox 1.0.6-3 is really really fast! ; libc6 ? don't know but sarge rocks for sure |
| 18:49.23 | remyforbes777 | i did that |
| 18:49.33 | goccia | is a diesel |
| 18:49.36 | Rassah | um, can someone check what's wrong with this command? "find . -name Clean -exec mv -i {} clean \;" It's supposed to recursively rename every Clean directory in the directory tree, but it just moves all cleans to root or something |
| 18:49.37 | Gnea | Dreamer3: apt-get -d to download them, then use dpkg (dpkg --force-help) |
| 18:49.40 | wols | remyforbes777: no. cause I can see you're not an identified user yet |
| 18:49.48 | somePriest | Devrethman, The same way you do for an amd32 on an x86 system I believe. |
| 18:50.07 | Gnea | remyforbes777: you need to read what it says and follow directions |
| 18:50.16 | Devrethman | menuconfig lets you select what CPU you wnat, but the only options there are derivatives of x86 |
| 18:50.27 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: -d wants to download everything though, i have dial-up... the idea is to not download what i don't need |
| 18:50.39 | gravity | Rassah: Try passing it to xargs instead of using -exec. -exec is a huge pain for me... |
| 18:50.48 | wols | Dreamer3: x86-64 IS x86 |
| 18:50.50 | Gnea | Dreamer3: without dependancies, a package will not work. |
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| 18:51.05 | wols | sorry, Devrethman of course |
| 18:51.14 | remyforbes777 | IDENTIFY remyforbes777 |
| 18:51.16 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: some of the deps are already there, just not package managed by debian |
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| 18:51.25 | Gnea | Dreamer3: just like 'ls' won't work without glibc2 installed |
| 18:51.28 | gravity | At least he didn't put his password in there |
| 18:51.34 | petykoo | bye |
| 18:51.47 | Gnea | Dreamer3: ah, so you want to install equivs and use that |
| 18:51.55 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: well |
| 18:51.59 | chealer | gravity: you think that :) |
| 18:52.09 | gravity | heh |
| 18:52.10 | Devrethman | i know it's possible somewhere, cause i have known people that have done it, but i have no idea how |
| 18:52.23 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: maybe, but there are tons of packages this applies to |
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| 18:52.45 | chealer | gravity: just curious, how did you get .dfsg.1-5 to build on alpha? |
| 18:52.47 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: installing equivs now |
| 18:52.52 | Rassah | Uh, I have no clue what xargs is, sorry |
| 18:52.59 | strobedream | does anyone have a good idea on how to set up distcc |
| 18:53.00 | Gnea | Dreamer3: so what you're saying is that you've done a lot of compiling? |
| 18:53.03 | antgel__ | !tell Rassah about unix lessons |
| 18:53.16 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: no :) the distro buildling did, and it's outside dpkg |
| 18:53.21 | Rassah | just need single line command that'll rename all "Name" to "name" recursively... |
| 18:53.38 | Rassah | and the one given to me screwed up |
| 18:53.42 | antgel__ | Rassah: and man find. suggest you remove the -exec stanza and replace with -print for see what is picked up, for starters |
| 18:53.46 | Gnea | Dreamer3: oookay... :) |
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| 18:53.59 | Octavian | hi there |
| 18:53.59 | goccia | Rassah: i believe something like {} /path/ \\; |
| 18:54.00 | antgel__ | Rassah: as you'll note from unix lessons, never type a command if you don't know wtf you're doing |
| 18:54.15 | Octavian | can anyone recommend a tool for logfile analysis with email reporting? |
| 18:54.16 | strobedream | I did an apt-get already and configured it but I dont know how to check if its working |
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| 18:54.28 | antgel__ | Octavian: what logs |
| 18:54.30 | Rassah | I figured the person giving me the command knew what they were doing, but just in case I used it on a test directory :) |
| 18:54.36 | gravity | chealer: Huh? It FTBFS's on your alpha? |
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| 18:55.13 | Octavian | anggel: my server logs, i should scan for "unusual events" |
| 18:55.20 | chealer | gravity: no, I have no alpha, but I thought there were issues in the alpha toolchain |
| 18:55.33 | gravity | chealer: That wasn't my problem. Once it was taken care of, X built fine |
| 18:55.36 | Octavian | antgel: i used logscan some time ago, but wasnt that impressed ;) |
| 18:55.38 | antgel__ | strobedream: read the docs and try it. and be less vague |
| 18:55.42 | chealer | gravity: ok, cool |
| 18:56.09 | Devrethman | so nobody knows how to compile a 64 bit kernel from a 32 bit environment? |
| 18:56.18 | gravity | There was a serious alpha bug, but that was patched for -5 and didn't affect the build |
| 18:56.31 | antgel__ | !tell Devrethman about adm64 |
| 18:56.34 | antgel__ | !tell Devrethman about amd64 |
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| 18:57.03 | chealer | ah, ok. I thought -5 originally FTBFSd on alpha. anyway, just a few RC bugs to go for it X.org to be in testing now :) |
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| 18:57.15 | gravity | Just one really. That's pending. |
| 18:57.27 | gravity | The other one is really a gdm bug, but I'm not going to play bts ping-pong over it |
| 18:57.39 | chealer | cool |
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| 18:58.16 | gravity | I'm building -6 right now, and waiting to see if the other David can fix his backport of the savage driver from HEAD |
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| 18:58.28 | gravity | If he can't I'll upload the packages I'm building now |
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| 18:59.20 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: no way this is gonna work :) |
| 18:59.20 | xbmodder-treo | how do I install packages without downloading the package manually |
| 18:59.31 | chealer | gravity: hehehe. that's great |
| 18:59.34 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: there are over 50 packages |
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| 18:59.57 | Dreamer3 | Gnea: what i really need is to just fetch the debs and start intsalling until it works |
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| 19:00.28 | ehtom-z | what dvd players are packaged for debian? |
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| 19:00.41 | jdhutchin1 | ehtom-z, there's xine and mplayer |
| 19:00.42 | xbmodder-treo | is there like 'yum install xorg-x11' |
| 19:00.43 | drac | ehtom-z: xine.. vlc.. |
| 19:00.46 | xbmodder-treo | ? |
| 19:00.50 | xbmodder-treo | for debian? |
| 19:00.51 | jdhutchin1 | !tell xbmodder-treo about xorg |
| 19:00.53 | gravity | xbmodder-treo: aptitude install x-window-system |
| 19:00.56 | drac | xbmodder-treo: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
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| 19:01.01 | chealer | mplayer isn't in debian |
| 19:01.03 | drac | whoops, what gravity said |
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| 19:01.20 | jdhutchin1 | !tell ehtom-z about dvd |
| 19:01.23 | ehtom-z | does xine work on any region dvd? |
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| 19:01.30 | chealer | jdhutchin1: xine, vlc, ogle, okle, certainly other |
| 19:01.38 | jdhutchin1 | region limitations are usually in the firmware of your dvd player |
| 19:01.46 | chealer | jdhutchin1: sorry |
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| 19:01.51 | chealer | ehtom-z: : xine, vlc, ogle, okle, certainly other |
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| 19:01.59 | ehtom-z | ok, thanks |
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| 19:02.22 | Rassah | "find . -name Clean -exec mv -i {} clean \;" apparently executes a "mv -i ./temp1/Clean clean". how can I force it to do "mv -i ./temp1/Clean ./temp1/clean?" |
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| 19:03.24 | antgel__ | xbmodder-treo: have you read the debian reference? |
| 19:04.00 | rking | a real-life riddle: there once was a man from Lub-bock, he had plenty hard drives in stock, some were not good, some of them were, and he was about to say, "aw fock" (ok, that didn't work... anyway, i have some drives that i know to be bad, mixed in with some that i think are good - any tips about how to tell which is which?) |
| 19:04.04 | xbmodder-treo | antgel_ I am installing stuff on my friends debian system over pssh from a treo |
| 19:04.06 | xbmodder-treo | so no. |
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| 19:04.16 | Eulex | someone ban adsl-89-99-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma |
| 19:04.18 | Rassah | anybody? |
| 19:04.31 | Eulex | !anybody |
| 19:04.31 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 19:04.43 | antgel__ | xbmodder-treo: jesus. good work. perhaps your friend should read the debian reference |
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| 19:05.03 | rking | jahahahaha: are you four? |
| 19:05.25 | jahahahaha | sorry somebody is flooding me |
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| 19:05.38 | jahahahaha | since yesterday |
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| 19:05.47 | Rassah | nevermind, figured it out, I think |
| 19:05.53 | goccia | Rassah: find . -name Clean -exec mv -i {} clean /path \; |
| 19:06.16 | xbmodder-treo | umm could you please tell me the command |
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| 19:06.32 | xbmodder-treo | so I can just start it |
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| 19:06.41 | xbmodder-treo | then ill read the reference |
| 19:07.05 | antgel__ | xbmodder-treo: ^^^ but it's aptitude install x-window-system as i know pssh is painful :) |
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| 19:07.35 | Dreamer3 | is there anyway to tell debian "pleae get me JUST the .deb file for the latest version of xyz?" |
| 19:07.40 | antgel__ | xbmodder-treo: if aptitude is not found, apt-get install aptitude first |
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| 19:07.44 | xbmodder-treo | antgel is there a yum like command? |
| 19:07.54 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: packages.debian.org, wget |
| 19:07.57 | gravity | xbmodder-treo: Dude... just do the command and be amazed |
| 19:07.58 | xbmodder-treo | apt-get!! I forgot about apt |
| 19:07.58 | kamaraju | Dreamer3: apt-get install --download-only xyz |
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| 19:08.06 | EmleyMoor | apt-get is yum-like I guess |
| 19:08.14 | gravity | More like the other way around |
| 19:08.21 | gravity | yum was on the scene way later |
| 19:08.24 | Dreamer3 | antgel__: hmmmmmm, no console way with single command? |
| 19:08.30 | Dreamer3 | antgel__: that will suck over and over |
| 19:08.33 | Eulex | xbmodder-treo, if you don't know how debian works, I for sure wouldn't give you pssh root to my box |
| 19:08.41 | Eulex | *root access |
| 19:08.42 | goccia | Dreamer3: apt-get -d install |
| 19:08.44 | gravity | Dreamer3: man apt-get |
| 19:08.54 | EasterSunshine | what command can i do in console to start a new x that i can bring up with alt+f8 ? |
| 19:08.57 | Dreamer3 | goccia: but that will attempt to download dependencies which i don't want |
| 19:09.07 | Dreamer3 | gravity: if there is a way to turn off depends i haven't found it in the man |
| 19:09.11 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: what you are trying to do sucks |
| 19:09.12 | Eulex | Dreamer3, well, you need the deps |
| 19:09.23 | kamaraju | EasterSunshine: you need to use ctrl-alt-f7 when you do startx |
| 19:09.30 | Dreamer3 | Eulex: not if the libraries are already installed |
| 19:09.33 | goccia | Dreamer3: dependencies in debian are not a nightmare like some other distro :) |
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| 19:09.46 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: if they are installed, it won't download them |
| 19:09.47 | gravity | Just do the packages.d.o thing |
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| 19:10.02 | Dreamer3 | antgel__: package management isn't aware of them |
| 19:10.09 | goccia | Dreamer3: anyway : apt-get -s install will show you:) |
| 19:10.11 | shingouz | EasterSunshine: if i recall, startx -- :1 |
| 19:10.13 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: did we not already tell you about equivs |
| 19:10.15 | mveers | bye |
| 19:10.15 | Dreamer3 | gravity: this is DSL Linux, there is a reason it does'nt use packaign |
| 19:10.20 | Eulex | Dreamer3, what? have you installed everything from source? |
| 19:10.28 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: it's not even fucking debian? |
| 19:10.31 | Eulex | !not debian |
| 19:10.31 | dpkg | Knoppix isn't, Ubuntu isn't, Libranet isn't, Morphix isn't, lnx-bbc isn't, *your* installation you have right now ISN'T.... see if there is a channel available relevant to your distribution, if not, tough. Your questions do not belong here! |
| 19:10.33 | gravity | Dreamer3: Then why are you asking in here? You're trying to do things that are insane on a Debian system |
| 19:10.44 | Dreamer3 | antgel__: yes, but creating 50 equiv packages when i what i need is a simple way to just download single .debs would seem to be overkill? |
| 19:10.48 | antgel__ | dsl sounds like more fun every time i think about it |
| 19:10.55 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: dsl seems like overkill |
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| 19:10.55 | gravity | Dreamer3: The Debian answer is to simply use an apt frontend to install the package. |
| 19:10.58 | Dreamer3 | antgel__: it's based on debian |
| 19:11.04 | shingouz | !based on debian |
| 19:11.04 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
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| 19:11.05 | gravity | !based on debian |
| 19:11.08 | gravity | Heh, too slow |
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| 19:11.13 | Dreamer3 | antgel__: but people build packages for it, and it doesn't use package mangement cause it has to fit on a 50mb CD |
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| 19:11.36 | gravity | Dreamer3: #dsllinux or something |
| 19:11.39 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: suggest you stop moaning and ask some dsl experts |
| 19:11.43 | Dreamer3 | Eulex: no, i installed them from a DSL extension, but they still aren't registered with the package manger |
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| 19:11.45 | shingouz | Dreamer3: just stop it, ok. dsl is not debian, it does not work as debian |
| 19:12.03 | Eulex | Dreamer3, not our problem |
| 19:12.19 | Dreamer3 | but i was asking a simple question :) how to download a single .deb file from the console |
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| 19:12.27 | EasterSunshine | shingouz: thx, that worked |
| 19:12.30 | gravity | Dreamer3: We told you |
| 19:12.30 | antgel__ | Dreamer3: you got a simple answer. wget. |
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| 19:13.03 | kamaraju | Dreamer3: then go to dsl's irc. Dont waste our time |
| 19:13.09 | shingouz | EasterSunshine: goes to show my brain is not completely asleep yet. it will be in a few minutes though |
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| 19:13.18 | shingouz | !sep |
| 19:13.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, sep is Somebody-Else's-Problem, a concept invented by Douglas Adams. Extremely weird things inherently generate an SEP-field around themselves, thus becoming invisible |
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| 19:13.44 | help | i get the error cant read superblock when i mount a usb ... what does it mean ? |
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| 19:13.56 | antgel__ | help: what fucking command are you typing? |
| 19:13.58 | vel | sorry |
| 19:14.02 | jdhutchin1 | help, it could mean a lot of things- maybe you're using the wrong device? |
| 19:14.28 | help | mount /mnt/usb |
| 19:14.31 | Eulex | help, what fs does the usb device use? what partitions does it use? what device is it on? |
| 19:14.41 | help | err msg :/dev/sda1 :cant read superblock |
| 19:14.52 | jdhutchin1 | then try "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb" |
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| 19:15.06 | antgel__ | help: good idea to tell us that. now post the relevant bit from your syslog when you inserted the device |
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| 19:15.32 | help | how do i find if the usb is sda1 or sda2 of sda3 |
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| 19:15.37 | jdhutchin1 | trial and error |
| 19:15.39 | jdhutchin1 | or check syslong |
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| 19:15.54 | jdhutchin1 | help, nvm |
| 19:16.07 | jdhutchin1 | help, the number is the partition number- for usb devices, it's almost always 0 |
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| 19:16.12 | antgel__ | help: you need to turn on your input, not just your output i.e. read the channel |
| 19:16.14 | jdhutchin1 | *almost always 1 |
| 19:16.25 | streuner | hm |
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| 19:19.06 | jnymo | hello |
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| 19:19.42 | antgel | jnymo: alter the config thing |
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| 19:19.52 | jnymo | like at startup it asked me what it was.. and I didn't really have one.. but now I do |
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| 19:20.09 | antgel | !tell jnymo about hostname |
| 19:20.09 | kamaraju | jnymo: dhcp or static IP? |
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| 19:20.20 | dafresh | anyone have an idea why i can execute bash script only on my root partition and not on the other ? |
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| 19:20.28 | antgel | dafresh: nfs mounts? |
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| 19:20.31 | jnymo | dynamic. I already hooked it up at dyndns |
| 19:20.39 | dafresh | antgel: local mount |
| 19:20.50 | antgel | dafresh: ls -l on the file? |
| 19:20.57 | Hackel | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.03 | soldiar | where's the kernel source? |
| 19:21.04 | dafresh | antgel: it s ok |
| 19:21.21 | Eulex | dafresh, is it mounted with noexec or whatever it's called? |
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| 19:21.29 | antgel | soldiar: in /usr/src if you install the package. then tar xvfj |
| 19:21.33 | help | where do i find the syslog message ? |
| 19:21.40 | antgel | !tell help about syslog |
| 19:21.46 | dafresh | antgel: nop, the same options of the root partition |
| 19:21.50 | antgel | shit factoid |
| 19:21.55 | soldiar | antgel, there's only a folder named "rpm" . |
| 19:22.03 | antgel | help: /var/log. have you read the reference |
| 19:22.08 | Hackel | Is there a way to restore the Debian submenu in the Gnome menu? |
| 19:22.10 | dafresh | and the same probleme on all of my partitions ... |
| 19:22.13 | kamaraju | soldiar: then you have not installed kernel source. |
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| 19:22.23 | dafresh | exept the root |
| 19:22.31 | dafresh | and really dont anderstand |
| 19:22.32 | help | there are so many files in /var/log |
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| 19:22.41 | antgel | soldiar: do you have a good reason to recompile |
| 19:22.53 | Eulex | help, maybe the one named syslog? :P |
| 19:22.56 | antgel | dafresh: cat /etc/fstab? |
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| 19:23.23 | help | none by the name syslog in /var/log.. |
| 19:23.35 | soldiar | antgel, i need it for vmware ;) |
| 19:23.40 | jnymo | antgel: ok so I just change my hostname to my domain name that I just registered at dyndns? |
| 19:24.04 | antgel | soldiar: you gonna patch it? |
| 19:24.05 | Eulex | help, have you got syslogd installed? |
| 19:24.21 | help | ya syslogd is running |
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| 19:24.29 | ^Duffy^ | anyone want to help me out with a problem? SSHd has fallen out on my VPS running Debian, and I need to reboot the machine. I have Apache+PHP installed, and FTP access .. anyone ? |
| 19:24.34 | antgel | jnymo: i have no idea. but if you can equate a domain name and hostname, i suggest you get a good book on dns. :) |
| 19:24.35 | dafresh | /dev/hda1 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 19:24.47 | black_13 | what is the sysfs file system/. |
| 19:24.49 | dafresh | /dev/hda3 /data ext3 user,rw,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 19:25.06 | stew | ^Duffy^: are you asking if there is a way to use ftp / apache to force your machine to reboot? |
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| 19:25.14 | dafresh | antgel: ... ? |
| 19:25.22 | jdhutchin1 | ^Duffy^, not unless your machine is horribly insecure |
| 19:25.23 | antgel | dafresh: that's it? |
| 19:25.31 | dafresh | antgel: yep |
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| 19:25.44 | antgel | dafresh: did you do the ls -l as i asked above? |
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| 19:25.46 | Eulex | help, I dunno about why it ain't in /var/log, but another way of seeing what would be to press CTRL-ALT-F1 and remove and insert the usb device |
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| 19:25.47 | dafresh | antgel: i cant execute nothing in /data |
| 19:25.47 | peetsbeets | hey guys what cursor theme does debian use for gnome? |
| 19:26.01 | jnymo | is there a room for noobs? |
| 19:26.04 | vortek | Would Anhy one know why my kne wkernel hangs for like 3 minutes at creating initial device modes ? |
| 19:26.05 | dafresh | antgel: yes, why ? |
| 19:26.11 | ^Duffy^ | stew: well, I want it rebooted, I don't care how |
| 19:26.16 | meds | how can i boot into my debian install using the kernel on the install cd to fix my kernel? |
| 19:26.16 | jdhutchin1 | vortek, that's not your kernel, that's udev |
| 19:26.25 | antgel | dafresh: to make sure your script is executable |
| 19:26.40 | dafresh | antgel: i have already check that, it is |
| 19:26.46 | stew | ^Duffy^: unless you could ftp in as root i don't see how. but if its a virtual machine then someone should have access to some virtual console |
| 19:26.47 | Eulex | peetsbeets, jimmac, I believe |
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| 19:26.52 | vortek | jdhutchin1, : how do i fix the problem ? |
| 19:26.52 | antgel | meds: generally a live cd is a better environment for that kind of thing. |
| 19:26.57 | dafresh | -rwx------ 1 root root 24 2005-08-27 21:07 test.sh* |
| 19:26.58 | soldiar | antgel, i just wanna have vmware :) |
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| 19:27.22 | ^Duffy^ | stew: Yes, but I cant reach the support at the moment without calling them .. and it's kind'off expensive calling from .no to the united states |
| 19:27.22 | antgel | soldiar: but does vmware need a kernel patch? |
| 19:27.25 | meds | antgel, well i just need to dpkg -i my kernel package and it should be fine but it doesnt boot |
| 19:27.34 | dafresh | antgel: any other idea ?! |
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| 19:28.06 | antgel | dafresh: yes. why is it owned by root.root? does the script need to be root? |
| 19:28.08 | Eulex | soldiar, to compile a few modules you don't need to recompile your whole kernel |
| 19:28.13 | dafresh | antgel: i have this return: -bash: ./test.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied |
| 19:28.25 | dafresh | antgel: it is just for test |
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| 19:28.30 | antgel | dafresh: so what? |
| 19:28.36 | antgel | !tell dafresh about unix lessons |
| 19:28.37 | stew | ^Duffy^: unless you could alter files as root, i dunno how you are going to be able to force a reboot |
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| 19:29.18 | zulkifar | Hi. Can't get DRI working. There are no errors or warnings in dmesg or Xfree86 log - but glxinfo still claims direct redndering: No :( |
| 19:29.18 | antgel | meds: how the fuck do you expect anyone to be able to help without being specific about the error? |
| 19:29.28 | dafresh | antgel: this is not the probleme ... |
| 19:29.34 | dafresh | antgel: i know that |
| 19:29.45 | ^Duffy^ | stew: well, I have a script to get a "terminal" system through PHP (web-interface) .. I could run a bash file, that uses su -, but I have no idea on how to do the password input |
| 19:29.47 | jdhutchin1 | zulkifar, then you need to install drivers that support direct rendering |
| 19:29.52 | soldiar | antgel, don't know. but it wants my kernel cuz i use amd64 ;) |
| 19:29.55 | vortek | jdhutchin1, is there a way to turn it off ? |
| 19:29.56 | antgel | dafresh: what's the output of mount? i assume you've read the /topic |
| 19:30.02 | jdhutchin1 | !tell zulkifar about dri |
| 19:30.09 | jdhutchin1 | vortek, yeah, stop udev from running on boot |
| 19:30.09 | soldiar | and now i'm gonna sleep. sleep well you guys here :) |
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| 19:30.18 | antgel | soldiar: i have no idea what you are going on about |
| 19:30.40 | dafresh | antgel: ouep |
| 19:30.41 | meds | antgel: i build a new kernel, deleted the /lib/modules/2.6.12.5 for the old kernel, forgot to dpkg-i the new kernel package and rebooted. now it gives fatal errors about not finding /lib/modules/whatever. if i could boot and dpkg -i my new kernel it would be fixed |
| 19:30.41 | vortek | jdhutchin1, is there a guide on this :) |
| 19:30.57 | soldiar | antgel, good night. i'm gonna sleep now ^^ in germany it's late ;) |
| 19:31.07 | antgel | meds: why did you delete /lib/modules/anything? |
| 19:31.10 | ^Duffy^ | stew: Any ideas? |
| 19:31.11 | stew | meds: boot from a livecd / install cd, chroot to your /root and install |
| 19:31.20 | stew | ^Duffy^: not unless you can alter files as root |
| 19:31.21 | dafresh | antgel: mount output give me nothing |
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| 19:31.31 | nimak | im getting spam from freenode |
| 19:31.36 | antgel | dafresh: don't believe you |
| 19:31.38 | nimak | is this normal? |
| 19:31.40 | antgel | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.45 | stew | ^Duffy^: or unless you ahve a user with sudo access |
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| 19:32.05 | jac1 | moin |
| 19:32.06 | stew | nimak: yes, /umode +E |
| 19:32.10 | zulkifar | jdhutchin1: I use ordinary video card Radeon 7000/VE with RV100. Sarge. And there are _no_ error messages in logs |
| 19:32.15 | yaru22 | why is this irc server forwading me to #ubuntu-unregged channel when i typed /join #ubuntu? |
| 19:32.24 | antgel | yaru22: /msg nickserv help |
| 19:32.26 | Eulex | zulkifar, what video driver? |
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| 19:32.37 | ^Duffy^ | stew: well, I can use su -, to obtain root right? I just need a way to get the bash file to input the password .. |
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| 19:32.41 | dafresh | antgel: for what ? the paste or the FAQ ?! |
| 19:32.47 | stew | ^Duffy^: you can't |
| 19:32.47 | antgel | dafresh: paste |
| 19:32.54 | antgel | dafresh: both really :) |
| 19:33.01 | zulkifar | Eulex: Radeon 7000/VE with RV100 chip (that is chip, right? :) ) |
| 19:33.10 | yaru22 | by the way |
| 19:33.14 | yaru22 | what's ^] key? |
| 19:33.14 | Eulex | zulkifar, graphics card != driver |
| 19:33.17 | dafresh | antgel: hum ... |
| 19:33.19 | greycat | Oh good, I'm back. |
| 19:33.26 | ^Duffy^ | stew: it isn't possible at all? .. this sucks :P |
| 19:33.27 | Eulex | yaru22, CTRL-] |
| 19:33.31 | yaru22 | i c |
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| 19:33.36 | yaru22 | Eulex, thanks |
| 19:33.48 | zulkifar | Eulex: oops, misreading. Only 'radeon' does work - 'ati' fallbacks to 'radeon' |
| 19:33.53 | antgel | greycat: you missed the chance to help a DSL user |
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| 19:34.07 | stew | ^Duffy^: wait, if you can run stuff as another use, just use netcat to get a shell |
| 19:34.12 | greycat | my own DSL crapped out for about 17 minutes |
| 19:34.28 | antgel | greycat: dsl as in damn small linux |
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| 19:34.46 | ^Duffy^ | stew: well, I have access through the user "nobody:nogroup" |
| 19:34.52 | greycat | "helped" as in shoved him roughly out to #damnsmalllinux? |
| 19:35.01 | vortek | I dont think removing udev is a good idea |
| 19:35.02 | knite | i just spent hours building a kernel with make-kpkg, and now just realized that I forgot to use the --initrd option. is it safe to just call make-kpkg kernel_image again, or do I need to clean and start over? |
| 19:35.19 | dafresh | antgel: oh sorry for the mount output ... i have anderstand the output of "mount /dev/... /..." |
| 19:35.30 | vortek | knite you usualy have make-kpkg and start over |
| 19:35.30 | jethro | vortek: are you vortek from #ids on undernet? |
| 19:35.32 | dafresh | /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 19:35.35 | EasterSunshine | is there a way to set the debian logo as it appeared at the first prompt in the install cd to pop up when i boot into a server installation? a simple yes or no will suffice for now :) |
| 19:35.36 | vortek | jethro, yeah |
| 19:35.40 | dafresh | /dev/hdd1 on /mldonkey type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,errors=remount-ro) |
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| 19:35.49 | jethro | vortek: heh nice to see you again, it's been a while :) |
| 19:35.51 | antgel | EasterSunshine: yes and no |
| 19:35.57 | Gnea | vortek: udev got removed? |
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| 19:36.05 | greycat | EasterSunshine: google for "bootsplash" |
| 19:36.06 | vortek | jethro, sups bro .. I've been in the hopspital for neurosarcoidsis |
| 19:36.06 | antgel | dafresh: you mentioned /data |
| 19:36.17 | antgel | dafresh: note that it is convention to put mounts under /mnt |
| 19:36.23 | EasterSunshine | antgel and greycat: thx |
| 19:36.28 | knite | vortek: yeah, I'm not sure if the --initrd option affects the build part of the process. if it's only the packaging part, then I should be able to just do the kernel_image step |
| 19:36.29 | vortek | Gnea, no but im getting a creating initial device modes in the kernel boot second line wich just hangs for like 3 minutes |
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| 19:36.40 | dafresh | antgel: yeah ... :) |
| 19:36.48 | Gnea | vortek: which flavor and which kernel? |
| 19:36.49 | dafresh | antgel: thx a lot for your help ;) |
| 19:36.54 | vortek | jethro, they got my legs working again |
| 19:36.56 | robertbb | Is it normal to be getting so many spam private msg's on freenode? I've been away for a few months and I don't remember it being like this.. |
| 19:36.56 | jethro | vortek: not much really, I'm at one of my friends place, just about to eat |
| 19:36.58 | antgel | dafresh: so where's the mount line referring to /data? |
| 19:37.05 | antgel | robertbb: TOPIC! |
| 19:37.08 | jethro | vortek: I'll be back in a while, can I /msg when I'm done eating? |
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| 19:37.15 | vortek | Gnea, 2.6.12.5 |
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| 19:37.28 | Gnea | vortek: flavor, as in sarge/etch/sid? |
| 19:37.28 | vortek | jethro, yeah if ya like if im not here ill be on ids on unet probaly |
| 19:37.28 | dafresh | antgel: i seems that by default the partition are mounted with the "noexec" flag |
| 19:37.29 | Eulex | zulkifar, you sure there aren't any errors or anything saying anything about direct rendering in your xfree86 log? |
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| 19:37.35 | vortek | oh sarge |
| 19:37.39 | Gnea | oh |
| 19:37.46 | jethro | vortek: aight, I'll join undernet and #ids then. talk to you later, take care. |
| 19:37.46 | greycat | dafresh: user implies noexec |
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| 19:37.49 | Gnea | well sarge doesn't support over 2.6.8 |
| 19:37.51 | meds | there's no fdisk on the install cd and /dev/hda doesnt exist |
| 19:37.54 | vortek | later |
| 19:37.54 | robertbb | antgel: What does the topic say about what I said? ;-) |
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| 19:37.56 | Gnea | it might and might not work |
| 19:38.00 | vortek | Gnea, i use raw source |
| 19:38.01 | greycat | Gnea: it "supports" any 2.6.x kernel, but you have to supply it yourself |
| 19:38.12 | mrgenixus | does nayone use rp-pppoe? I'm having a wierd mtu problem |
| 19:38.13 | antgel | dafresh: what a sensible idea. protects you when you try to run your idiot root executable script |
| 19:38.15 | Gnea | greycat: right, but i've seen it break |
| 19:38.26 | Gnea | and i had no one to blame other than myself |
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| 19:38.26 | greycat | udev might break since it seems to differ with 2.6.12.x |
| 19:38.29 | vortek | I just cant understand why mhy kernel hangs at creating inititial device modes for like 3 minutes |
| 19:38.35 | chealer | !tell mrgenixus about anyone |
| 19:38.35 | antgel | robertbb: nothing personal. been like that all day |
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| 19:38.47 | Gnea | udev is evolving along with 2.6 |
| 19:38.47 | robertbb | ;-) |
| 19:38.50 | Eulex | vortek, you mean device nodes, right? and have you checked your logs? |
| 19:38.52 | vortek | is there any thing I can do with out breaking something |
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| 19:39.38 | Gnea | vortek: do you require 2.6.12 for anything hardware-wise? |
| 19:41.04 | EasterSunshine | greycat: bootsplash only appears during boot? i don't see in the list of features that it will be behind my text during console |
| 19:41.12 | travisat | I don't have any problems with 2.6.12 |
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| 19:41.43 | vortek | gnea not shure |
| 19:41.48 | vortek | I just got it cause its the latest kernel |
| 19:41.54 | vortek | tht is stable |
| 19:41.55 | Gnea | ah |
| 19:41.59 | vortek | it is a laptop though |
| 19:42.02 | greycat | vortek: I'd try 2.6.8. |
| 19:42.06 | Gnea | vortek: you might want to consider dropping down to 2.6.11 |
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| 19:42.18 | vortek | yeah .7 is borked to much to boot |
| 19:42.19 | Gnea | sarge seems to flatten out there |
| 19:42.21 | greycat | or backport sid's udev |
| 19:42.33 | witch | hmmm there are several bugs against util-linux and hwclock |
| 19:42.35 | Gnea | !backport |
| 19:42.35 | dpkg | [backport] a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 19:42.35 | vortek | backport how hard is that |
| 19:42.49 | greycat | vortek: depends on the dependencies |
| 19:42.53 | Gnea | not very, as long as you know how to install a .deb by hand |
| 19:42.58 | vortek | yeah I do |
| 19:43.02 | gravity | Totally depends |
| 19:43.04 | greycat | backporting hello would be trivial. backporting KDE would be hard. |
| 19:43.04 | Eulex | and how to compile stuff |
| 19:43.04 | vortek | dpkg -i |
| 19:43.09 | Gnea | :) |
| 19:43.09 | lilldude | is sis better for debian or kt600 |
| 19:43.14 | asg | !b-e Eulex |
| 19:43.15 | dpkg | Eulex: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 19:43.25 | lilldude | i google said kt600 ie easy for drivers |
| 19:43.28 | Eulex | asg, eh? |
| 19:43.32 | jnymo | whats with these sex bots msg me? |
| 19:43.43 | greycat | lilldude: my money would be on the KT600 but that's just a guess. |
| 19:43.48 | vortek | Do I need udev? |
| 19:43.55 | greycat | lilldude: "drivers" in the context of your google search probably meant *windows* drivers. |
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| 19:44.03 | greycat | vortek: only if you use it. |
| 19:44.04 | asg | Eulex: build-essential will pull in all basic packages needed to 'compile stuff'. Some 'stuff' will require extran '-dev' packages. |
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| 19:44.18 | Eulex | asg, I know, I wasn't the one asking |
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| 19:44.23 | Gnea | jnymo: they want your soul |
| 19:44.27 | Gnea | jnymo: /topic |
| 19:44.36 | lilldude | greycat that is waht i think maybe doing but sis has lil more power sis maybe lill less buggy |
| 19:44.39 | jnymo | and i want to give them my soul |
| 19:44.46 | asg | Eulex: ah, my mistake |
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| 19:45.14 | lilldude | greay cat linux drivers were said easy for kt600 less power than sis |
| 19:45.16 | vortek | greycat: what would I use it for ? OR is ther ea way to check |
| 19:45.18 | jnymo | Gnea: ah cool tanks |
| 19:45.32 | greycat | vortek: GNOME uses hal which uses udev. |
| 19:45.38 | Eulex | !nicktab lilldude |
| 19:45.41 | vortek | greycat: ahh word :P |
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| 19:45.44 | antgel | gnome uses everything |
| 19:45.53 | vortek | yeah |
| 19:46.01 | lilldude | what eulex that nicktab mean? |
| 19:46.11 | meds | is there a way to specify at the bootloader to boot without loading any modules? |
| 19:46.12 | Eulex | !tell lilldude about nicktab |
| 19:46.14 | vortek | tobad gnome don't have a way to turn of this crapy touch pad anoying touch click crap |
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| 19:46.27 | Gnea | meds: no. |
| 19:46.33 | vortek | gpmconfig dont let you turn it off either |
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| 19:46.37 | Eulex | vortek, gnome hasn't got anything to do with it |
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| 19:46.57 | Gnea | vortek: oooh is that a synaptics? |
| 19:46.58 | vortek | Eulex, I went to that site it said to get the latest gpm |
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| 19:47.06 | vortek | Gnea, yeah ps2/synaptics |
| 19:47.20 | Gnea | vortek: i hate that shit too, been wanting to figure that out..hrmmm |
| 19:47.24 | vortek | works fine xwindows just its to sensitive for the click touch |
| 19:47.24 | somePriest | The IRC culture confuses me. I'm in another server/channel, talking to a lad within the confines of the channel rules. An op gets lippy with me, I tell him to sod off. When he continues I tell him I'm putting him on ignore, and do so. He then bans me. You can not mention you're ignoring someone, do so, then they ban you because you're "not listening", or you can tell them, and they ban you for saying it. Odd methinks. |
| 19:47.33 | Eulex | vortek, are you using gpm? |
| 19:47.46 | vortek | Eulex, yeah for console |
| 19:47.51 | asg | somePriest: complain to #freenode |
| 19:47.58 | somePriest | Any tips on understanding this strange culture? |
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| 19:48.10 | Gnea | somePriest: yeah, go elsewhere, you're in the wrong place. |
| 19:48.20 | antgel | somePriest: don't be lippy to an op? become an op? |
| 19:48.30 | Gnea | somePriest: show respect if you want respect? |
| 19:48.32 | gravity | somePriest: Observe and learn |
| 19:48.35 | somePriest | antgel, I wasn't lippy to them, on the contrary. |
| 19:48.37 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
| 19:48.40 | antgel | somePriest: i've done some pretty stupid things but i'm still here :) |
| 19:48.46 | Eulex | vortek, I'd recommend that you use the native synaptics driver for X and quit using the output of gpm for X, or whatever it's called |
| 19:48.46 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@203.135.62.88] by greycat |
| 19:48.54 | antgel | somePriest: perhaps he thought sod off was lippy |
| 19:48.59 | vortek | Eulex, ill try to do that |
| 19:49.10 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 19:49.28 | greycat | the bots are smart enough not to /msg *me*. So I have to use my clone. |
| 19:49.31 | somePriest | antgel, It seemed an appropriate reply to what they said. I just find IRC so strange, people act too rashly, and always assume the worse when making bans. |
| 19:49.37 | asg | greycat: :) |
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| 19:50.05 | Gnea | somePriest: it's like walking into someone's home and telling them how to live their life and they kick you out with a shotgun - think about it. |
| 19:50.07 | streuner | hehe :-) |
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| 19:50.18 | vortek | Eulex, : im shure tht is not a option in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 is it ? |
| 19:50.18 | Caelum | somePriest: some people are like that, especially in *bsd channels. Just pretend to take whatever abuse they send your way and ignore them :) |
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| 19:50.46 | Eulex | vortek, it's not, you need to modify your XF86Config-4 manually |
| 19:50.46 | Gnea | somePriest: it all goes back to the whole respect issue. |
| 19:50.53 | meds | how do i mount and chroot into my debian install using the install cd? |
| 19:50.55 | somePriest | Gnea, IRC isn't a home though, it was a channel dedicated to a particular television show (supported by the network in fact). It was a public forumn with a web interface in face. |
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| 19:51.15 | Eulex | vortek, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad -- look at what they put into there X config file |
| 19:51.23 | Gnea | somePriest: the people who watch the tv show are typically watching it from the confines of their own home. do the math. |
| 19:51.25 | vortek | Eulex, k |
| 19:51.37 | Eulex | vortek, but skip the emerge ;) |
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| 19:52.11 | somePriest | Gnea, Ya, but the channel is presented by the network, not the individuals. |
| 19:52.16 | Eulex | vortek, then you need to install xfree86-driver-synaptics |
| 19:52.20 | somePriest | Gnea, The IRC channel I mean. |
| 19:52.26 | Caelum | somePriest: since this is a text-based communication forum, some people, like the op you mentioned are not very good at reading people's state over irc. People on channels like this generally are. This happens once a few million lines of irc have passed through your brain |
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| 19:52.29 | Gnea | somePriest: but you are now going to either cease talking in here about this subject at this time. |
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| 19:52.40 | Gnea | somePriest: or be removed for violating channel policy. |
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| 19:52.50 | asg | meds: mount <root/device> /mnt ; chroot /mnt /bin/bash |
| 19:52.51 | Gnea | !tell somePriest about rules |
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| 19:53.16 | greycat | blabbering on and on about some unnamed op in some unnamed channel on some unnamed network *is* a bit annoying.... |
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| 19:53.17 | somePriest | Gnea, I'm not sure what rule I'm breaking. |
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| 19:53.26 | Gnea | somePriest: "stick to topic" |
| 19:53.29 | Caelum | true, this is a debian channel |
| 19:53.35 | meds | asg: yeah but it doesn't work, and /dev/hda doesn't exist |
| 19:53.41 | asg | somePriest: it's irc, there are not real rules. The ops make their own. There are guidelines, however. |
| 19:53.52 | asg | meds: because /dev/hda is the drive, not the partition |
| 19:54.03 | asg | meds: you want /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2, ... , /etc. |
| 19:54.07 | somePriest | Gnea, Ok, I will, I'd like to point out that over the years I've been here, this channel is off-topic quite often, even by some of the long-terms peoples. |
| 19:54.20 | Gnea | somePriest: but not for very long. |
| 19:54.20 | meds | mount /dev/hda8 /mnt and it says failed: No such file or directory and /mnt is there |
| 19:54.45 | Eulex | meds, do you know what partition the drive is on? have you tried fdisk -l /dev/hda? |
| 19:54.49 | meds | and fdisk isnt even on this cd |
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| 19:54.54 | greycat | meds: cfdisk, then |
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| 19:54.59 | Eulex | umh, s/drive/root partition/ |
| 19:55.12 | meds | is it just the buisnesscard install cd doesn't have fidsk then? |
| 19:55.18 | greycat | meds: and if it's the sarge install CD, it uses devfs (yes, that's BAD). So /dev/hda8 is no longer the correct name. |
| 19:55.18 | Caelum | meds: check if you have a /dev/hda8, might have to mknod it yourself |
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| 19:55.54 | ioerror | does anyone know the package that provides conio.h ? |
| 19:55.56 | lilldude | greycat you right kt600 looks like best one you run that greycat? |
| 19:56.00 | asg | ioerror: /msg dpkg search |
| 19:56.06 | greycat | lilldude: buy what you want. |
| 19:56.17 | meds | i'm downloading the 200mb install cd, i dont think this one has hardly anything on it |
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| 19:56.47 | greycat | meds: it's got a shell with basic utilities (far too few IMHO) |
| 19:56.53 | greycat | meds: and, *gag* devfs. |
| 19:56.55 | lilldude | greycat il buy brand i want i want something that isnt to hard to get running\ |
| 19:57.15 | greycat | lilldude: a KT600 should not require any special magic to make it work with Linux. |
| 19:57.29 | greycat | lilldude: NIC and video card are the usual problem spots |
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| 19:57.46 | lilldude | ok |
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| 19:58.03 | tech9iner | 491?? |
| 19:58.03 | meds | greycat: well i could do without fdisk, and everything i need is on the cd i have but i can't mount anything because of devfs |
| 19:58.10 | meds | how does mknod work |
| 19:58.21 | lilldude | greycat do you run sis? |
| 19:58.21 | asg | 1...2...5 (3 sir) |
| 19:58.28 | greycat | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge |
| 19:58.37 | tech9iner | most ive seen here n me vast tenure here!! [ahem.. eh all of 3 weeks or so ;]] |
| 19:59.02 | streuner | tech9iner: freenode did run a special app and test its software so some idlers leave... ;-) |
| 19:59.04 | asg | tech9iner: we usually hit 700+, this is a light week |
| 19:59.15 | Eulex | !aolify tech9iner |
| 19:59.21 | vortek | Eulex, |
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| 19:59.26 | Eulex | ah, sorry, wrong one |
| 19:59.43 | vortek | Eulex, synclient shows me unable to access shared memory SHConfig disabled? |
| 19:59.44 | vortek | lol |
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| 19:59.49 | tech9iner | Eulex mom!?.. zat U?? rofl.. |
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| 20:00.11 | tech9iner | so many hall monitors.. so little time hehe |
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| 20:00.29 | Eulex | vortek, google for it |
| 20:00.37 | tech9iner | JHChrist!! .. spam bots eh |
| 20:00.54 | tech9iner | speaking of wasted time.. *fjvkpdz* Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign => www.webcamera.gen.ms |
| 20:01.00 | cmihai | Topic :) |
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| 20:01.24 | resiak | Hmm. Sid's g++ doesn't depend on Sid's g++-4.0, which breaks, well, g++. Is it worth filing a bug about this? |
| 20:01.28 | *** part/#debian askmavisi (n=scandisk@tachev.ddns.HomeLan.BG) |
| 20:01.29 | xenoduck | !ops Getting spam from fjvkpdz |
| 20:01.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Getting spam from fjvkpdz |
| 20:01.33 | streuner | tech9iner: don't paste this shit here next time... |
| 20:01.40 | Rez | xenoduck: /topic |
| 20:01.50 | xenoduck | My bad. |
| 20:01.52 | tech9iner | wtf streuner ? |
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| 20:02.09 | streuner | tech9iner: well, you pasted an URL? |
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| 20:02.21 | _ray | !marillat |
| 20:02.22 | dpkg | i guess marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 20:02.28 | Eulex | tech9iner, !aolify wasn't bad after all |
| 20:02.29 | tech9iner | i PASTED a spam bought to so cops here'd know |
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| 20:02.51 | streuner | tech9iner: telling ops just the nick is enough... |
| 20:02.52 | tech9iner | hehe.. bot/bought.. good ole autoreplace hehe |
| 20:03.01 | asg | tech9iner: they know, just tell them the name of the bot, they will be able to validate your claim. |
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| 20:03.06 | tech9iner | fair nuff.. so ask next time fore shooting.. |
| 20:03.11 | tech9iner | rofl |
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| 20:03.26 | lilldude | thanks greycat |
| 20:03.28 | tech9iner | not your stepson nor bouy touy hehe |
| 20:03.28 | vortek | Eulex, noting on google |
| 20:03.29 | vortek | lol |
| 20:03.47 | vortek | I maen literly nothing |
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| 20:04.03 | tech9iner | but thanks for playing streuner ;];].. |
| 20:04.13 | Eulex | vortek, then you haven't got enough 1337 g00gl3 sk1llz |
| 20:04.16 | streuner | heh |
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| 20:04.26 | tech9iner | i suppose there is some special petty rule on reporting spambots then mates? |
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| 20:04.49 | tech9iner | ive been hit by 3 looks like in <5 mins |
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| 20:05.00 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@tachev.ddns.HomeLan.BG] by greycat |
| 20:05.01 | dondelelcaro | tech9iner: /topic |
| 20:05.08 | asg | tech9iner: I've been on for 36 hours and haven't been hit by one. |
| 20:05.09 | tech9iner | aha.. thanks dondelelcaro |
| 20:05.14 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@202.162.203.141] by greycat |
| 20:05.20 | streuner | tech9iner: /mode tech9iner +E |
| 20:05.25 | vortek | Eulex, lol |
| 20:05.29 | vortek | serious not one link |
| 20:05.32 | vortek | at all |
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| 20:05.47 | tech9iner | well now.. |
| 20:06.00 | tech9iner | spambot 1 = fjvkpdz |
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| 20:06.02 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 20:06.04 | *** part/#debian holycow (n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 20:06.09 | tech9iner | hehe.. blah blah |
| 20:06.10 | nvz | it would suck if these bots got smart enough to register other than the join flooding I havent even seen one yet |
| 20:06.14 | greycat | tech9iner: gone. |
| 20:06.18 | _ray | anybody else have power save issues? |
| 20:06.20 | vortek | Eulex, not even with quotes |
| 20:06.31 | vortek | what should my root #'s be in passwd ? |
| 20:06.33 | tech9iner | thanks greycat ;] |
| 20:06.34 | vortek | and shadow |
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| 20:07.06 | greycat | nvz: I keep myself non-+E'd so I can see 'em and ban 'em. |
| 20:07.09 | klone | how to rebuild binary package from installed package? |
| 20:07.15 | tech9iner | and ' askmavisi ' spambot 2 greycat please sir.. thanks ;] |
| 20:07.17 | klone | helllo! |
| 20:07.30 | greycat | tech9iner: USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN. |
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| 20:07.35 | _ray | debian rules |
| 20:07.37 | greycat | tech9iner: /whois askmavisi |
| 20:07.40 | asg | !debian/rules |
| 20:07.40 | dpkg | from memory, debian/rules is the makefile that's used by dpkg-buildpackage when building a .deb from source. Edit debian/rules before you run "fakeroot debian/rules binary" (or "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot") to create a custom .deb package. For more info, ask me about "source". |
| 20:07.43 | cadu | greycat: +E is non-pvt ? |
| 20:07.44 | vortek | lol |
| 20:07.48 | greycat | tech9iner: compare that to the bans I just made. |
| 20:07.49 | vortek | dpkg root |
| 20:07.49 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 20:07.56 | streuner | dpkg, mode e |
| 20:07.56 | dpkg | +E makes it such that only nickserv identified users can /msg you |
| 20:08.00 | greycat | cadu: +E on a person means unregistered can't /msg you |
| 20:08.09 | klone | I'm italian |
| 20:08.14 | nvz | greycat: yeah well thats only a local solution and I cant even do that much :P |
| 20:08.14 | asg | !it |
| 20:08.15 | dpkg | from memory, italian is per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 20:08.19 | vortek | does any one have the # modes for root for /etc/shadow ? in /etc/paswd there 0 0 |
| 20:08.24 | tech9iner | my my greycat .. tisk tisk.. |
| 20:08.28 | _ray | wow i didnt know you shouldnt compile as root |
| 20:08.28 | greycat | vortek: are you shitting me? |
| 20:08.32 | klone | thank you!! |
| 20:08.36 | tech9iner | ive heard for yrs bout such tudes here.. |
| 20:08.38 | vortek | greycat: nope |
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| 20:08.44 | greycat | vortek: you don't know what UID root should have? (And what the *fuck* is a "# mode"?) |
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| 20:08.58 | greycat | vortek: man 5 passwd; man 5 shadow |
| 20:09.00 | tech9iner | gotta look up those sources and do some biz with them for sure.. spot on they were |
| 20:09.01 | vortek | greycat: it should be 0 0 |
| 20:09.06 | vortek | im just checking |
| 20:09.16 | dondelelcaro | vortek: not in shadow it shouldn't. |
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| 20:09.39 | tech9iner | is the /mode <yournick> +E permanent?.. or per login? |
| 20:09.43 | nvz | I hate when I want to learn a song that I cant possibly tune my guitar to |
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| 20:09.47 | black_Nightmare | hey there |
| 20:09.47 | asg | tech9iner: 'tudes exist here because we expect a certain level of competence; nothing more. |
| 20:09.49 | resiak | nvz: Why not? |
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| 20:09.59 | tech9iner | roflmfao |
| 20:10.06 | dondelelcaro | tech9iner: depends on your client. |
| 20:10.10 | tech9iner | maturity not required is another way of putting that |
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| 20:10.16 | EmleyMoor | tech9iner: per login. Get your client to do it automatically if you wish |
| 20:10.28 | tech9iner | jolly good thanks EmleyMoor ;] |
| 20:10.40 | nvz | resiak: umm like this song is Open Bflat I'd break a string.. it takes open g and capo on 3 I dont know if I could even make open g without breaking anything and I dont have a capo anymore |
| 20:10.49 | vortek | Im just asking to making shure Im reading every thing right |
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| 20:10.52 | greycat | tech9iner: but asking me to ban someone that was already banned is "mature". |
| 20:10.54 | greycat | right. |
| 20:10.56 | asg | nvz: use your index finger |
| 20:11.02 | tech9iner | not tact of course.. after all.. all here want bill g to keep all our money.. |
| 20:11.04 | gravity | tech9iner: Stop being such a fucking tool. |
| 20:11.04 | asg | nvz: the original capo |
| 20:11.07 | greycat | and then doing it a second time... |
| 20:11.11 | nvz | asg: heh, too much like work |
| 20:11.21 | asg | nvz: yes |
| 20:11.30 | asg | nvz: but so much more impressive |
| 20:11.52 | resiak | nvz: From low to high, Open G is DGDGBD ? |
| 20:11.53 | witch | before I install new packages to get all information about running dpkg-reconfigure: Wher do I find the information, would would be configurable with dpkg-reconfigure <package>? |
| 20:11.53 | nvz | asg: yeah this particular song doesnt look that hard I could probably get away with it.. but thats not always the case. |
| 20:12.02 | greycat | tech9iner: you are the Epitome of the Pengiun. You're the laughing stock that the OpenBSD users point to when the say "Linux users use Linux because they hate Windows; OpenBSD users use OpenBSD because they love Unix." |
| 20:12.10 | nvz | resiak: I dunno never played in open G I would have to look it up |
| 20:12.14 | asg | nvz: agreed. |
| 20:12.15 | alvanson | I am using procmail as my local MDA (procmail -d $recipent). How do I get it to read and use /etc/aliases? |
| 20:12.44 | witch | s/whould would/what would/ |
| 20:12.52 | vortek | dondelelcaro, shadow is 13020:0:99999:7:::: |
| 20:12.54 | OleMoudi | is there any possible conflict if I upgrade libc6 to a newer version than testing provides while I stay testing on the other packages? |
| 20:12.59 | greycat | vortek: man 5 shadow |
| 20:13.00 | SerajewelKS | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/20682301/ |
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| 20:13.07 | dondelelcaro | vortek: yes, so man 5 shadow; and learn what those fields mean. |
| 20:13.11 | resiak | OleMoudi: Why do you want to? |
| 20:13.13 | vortek | greycat : word |
| 20:13.13 | antgel | OleMoudi: i reckon |
| 20:13.26 | nvz | asg: like I can probably play Tom Petty "Free Fallin" without a capo because its just an F with capo on 3 but if I had to reach any further down it would be impossible.. and it slows be down reguardless |
| 20:13.30 | black_Nightmare | any of you used scsi scanners? |
| 20:13.47 | dondelelcaro | bah. lazy guitar players who require capos |
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| 20:13.55 | OleMoudi | resiak, I need last version of a program that needs libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1); |
| 20:13.57 | vortek | greycat: lol man 5 shadow dont show any thing techinical lol |
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| 20:14.04 | vortek | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.06 | OleMoudi | testing is on 2.3.2 |
| 20:14.09 | greycat | dondelelcaro: might be necessary if the song wants lots of "open" strings. |
| 20:14.12 | nvz | I wanted to try learn Thorn In My Pride.. cause I like the black crows and only know one of their songs |
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| 20:14.26 | _ray | !kde34 |
| 20:14.26 | greycat | barre chords have a very different sound from "open" chords |
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| 20:14.31 | _ray | !kde3.4 |
| 20:14.31 | dpkg | i heard kde3.4 is being packaged, or see http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34, or not supported on Debian channels, *particularly* not #debian |
| 20:14.33 | Eulex | OleMoudi, why do you need the latest version of a program? |
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| 20:14.56 | resiak | !info kde-base sid |
| 20:15.01 | greycat | vortek: submit a patch to the man page! |
| 20:15.03 | resiak | :/ |
| 20:15.03 | greycat | vortek: it's fun! |
| 20:15.08 | OleMoudi | because earlier versions are not compatible with the archive format of the last |
| 20:15.16 | vortek | lol |
| 20:15.17 | resiak | OleMoudi: Yeah... What program is it? |
| 20:15.21 | OleMoudi | xmame |
| 20:15.26 | resiak | Ah hah |
| 20:15.36 | OleMoudi | :X |
| 20:15.40 | vortek | honestly it just shows like a one page doc ... about time after 19 70 when password expires |
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| 20:15.46 | greycat | vortek: welcome to Linux. |
| 20:15.49 | dondelelcaro | vortek: "lets start with the 3rd field: Days since Jan 1, 1970 that password was last changed" |
| 20:15.50 | vortek | lol |
| 20:16.06 | dondelelcaro | vortek: I mean, what more documentation of the fields do you need? |
| 20:16.11 | resiak | OleMoudi: I've just had a bad experience with pulling in Sid's glibc6, so I'd say "don't do that! Get the Sid xmame source and build a .deb on Etch!". |
| 20:16.20 | greycat | dondelelcaro: "in base 10"? :) |
| 20:16.23 | jkaufman | dondelecaro that bonuss guy is spamming the chan, he comes in with diff nicks and pms crap about webcams and such =\ |
| 20:16.27 | _ray | anyone using etch? |
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| 20:16.34 | greycat | !anyone use |
| 20:16.34 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 20:16.50 | dondelelcaro | jkaufman: it's not even online anymore |
| 20:16.56 | nvz | I wander why so many things in unix use the epoch as a reference instead of the current date.. because even the epoch is still relative to the current time on the system |
| 20:17.13 | vortek | k |
| 20:17.14 | greycat | nvz: uh... no, it's not. |
| 20:17.14 | jkaufman | ~[ dondelelcaro ]~ aye i know, but it comes back every so often heh |
| 20:17.26 | dondelelcaro | nvz: because the epoch is stationary and the current date isn't? |
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| 20:17.34 | vortek | days after 1970 is 13020 |
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| 20:17.43 | nvz | yeah but if my date is 2000 its going to be wrong |
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| 20:17.53 | _ray | hmmm........... how can i get my kernel to support power save? |
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| 20:18.10 | vortek | that field is correct |
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| 20:18.30 | OleMoudi | resiak, how do I do that?, make-kpkg ? |
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| 20:18.31 | jkaufman | aye that works =) |
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| 20:18.43 | dondelelcaro | vortek: that field is totally irrellevant for root. Why not actually ask the reason question? |
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| 20:19.11 | tech9iner | rofl |
| 20:19.20 | tech9iner | read bout this channel yesterday rofl |
| 20:19.23 | tech9iner | Sure, there are other forums that might have more users or maybe more info, but nothing beats the atmosphere. I'll take friendly, helpful people any day over 1,000 assholes gathered in one place screaming “RTFM†at anyone who utters a question. |
| 20:19.23 | dondelelcaro | s/reason/real/ |
| 20:19.29 | vortek | ok well I figured out that them fields have nothing to do with accesing shared memory |
| 20:19.35 | greycat | tech9iner: re-*plonk* |
| 20:19.36 | vortek | :) and I know what they mean |
| 20:19.42 | tech9iner | whateve |
| 20:19.42 | resiak | OleMoudi: No. apt-get source -t unstable xmame, cd into the directory it makes, ./debian/rules binary |
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| 20:19.43 | Reilithion | Hi, all. How do I delete files from a flash-memory device, like an SD card? rm doesn't seem to be effective |
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| 20:19.48 | vortek | dondelelcaro, : ok the reason ? |
| 20:19.58 | vortek | :D |
| 20:20.02 | nvz | Reilithion: why do you say that? |
| 20:20.03 | resiak | OleMoudi: Oh, and apt-get build-dep xmame. Oh, and do the apt-get source as your own user, not as root. |
| 20:20.08 | dondelelcaro | vortek: no, I meant the real question. Why are you asking about these fields in the first place? |
| 20:20.14 | OleMoudi | ok |
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| 20:20.18 | vortek | oh I cant acces shared memory |
| 20:20.24 | E-bola | Anybody here use loop-aes? I am trying to find out how i can increase the number of loop-devices availeble, i only seem to have 8. Does anybody know? |
| 20:20.25 | antgel | he's also on fedora |
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| 20:20.29 | Reilithion | nvz: I'll rm /media/usbdrive/*, take out the card, put it back in, and the files are back. intact. |
| 20:20.30 | greycat | shared.... memory? |
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| 20:20.35 | greycat | what does that have to do with shadow(5)? |
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| 20:20.52 | dondelelcaro | vortek: eh? what's complaining about shared memory? |
| 20:21.02 | nvz | Reilithion: do you get any errors? and do you properly unmount the drive before you remove it? |
| 20:21.10 | vortek | dondelelcaro, cant access shared memory SHMConfig disalbed ? is the error and synclient i sthe one naggng about it |
| 20:21.12 | vortek | and syndeamon |
| 20:21.21 | vortek | and I ran them as root aslos |
| 20:21.27 | Reilithion | facepalm I'll try unmounting it. |
| 20:21.36 | antgel | i mean #fedora ^^^ |
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| 20:21.57 | nvz | Reilithion: flash media usually doesnt do anything until its unmounted to prevent unwanted access.. they have a life span if you keep changing your mind what you want on it you could burt the thing out before you even get to take it out of the drive |
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| 20:22.11 | vortek | dondelelcaro, aslos =also |
| 20:22.35 | dondelelcaro | vortek: so in your kernel you've got CONFIG_SHMEM=n; fix it. |
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| 20:23.06 | F4k3 | hi |
| 20:23.12 | F4k3 | got one question |
| 20:23.20 | dondelelcaro | F4k3: ask. |
| 20:23.21 | vortek | ahh word .. Now do I have to do a make-kpkg clean then make-kpkg binary-arch ? or can I just change and do the binary-arch |
| 20:23.27 | vortek | thanxs also :D :D |
| 20:23.42 | dondelelcaro | vortek: just make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg kernel_image; |
| 20:23.51 | dondelelcaro | vortek: with whatever options are appropriate for your kernel. |
| 20:24.05 | F4k3 | in which file are the bootinformations in Debian ?? |
| 20:24.08 | dondelelcaro | vortek: and you really shouldn't be building your own kernel if you're asking that sort of thing. |
| 20:24.12 | greycat | F4k3: read /etc/init.d/README |
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| 20:24.24 | vortek | dondelelcaro, Ive been building them sense bo |
| 20:24.26 | vortek | :) |
| 20:24.35 | F4k3 | okay thanks i wll take a look |
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| 20:24.48 | Reilithion | nvz: sudo umount /dev/sda |
| 20:24.49 | vortek | dondelelcaro, honestly SHMEM is = yes :( |
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| 20:24.54 | nvz | I dont know but I swear these scales on guitarseek.com used to be easier to see. I need to look at it on windows and see if it looks different. cause that really shitty website I went to last night didnt look so shitty in windows. windows made the bg a different color |
| 20:24.55 | vortek | i just cated my .config |
| 20:24.55 | Reilithion | nvz: device is busy |
| 20:25.05 | dondelelcaro | vortek: did you check /proc/config.gz? |
| 20:25.15 | nvz | Reilithion: /dev/sda should not be mounted anyhow |
| 20:25.15 | vortek | let me zcat that realy fast |
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| 20:25.21 | dondelelcaro | vortek: are you using selinux or something? |
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| 20:25.27 | Reilithion | Well, that's how it automounted |
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| 20:25.36 | vortek | nope thats the odd part lol |
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| 20:25.40 | syntaxx | anyone here who have tried root-tail? i have problem in testing |
| 20:25.40 | nvz | Reilithion: I doubt it. check mtab or df or something |
| 20:25.58 | dondelelcaro | !tell syntaxx -about ask |
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| 20:26.11 | vortek | dondelelcaro, no proc/config.gz |
| 20:26.18 | Reilithion | nvz: /dev/sda /media/usbdisk vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,uid=1000,gid=112,umask=077 0 0 |
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| 20:26.39 | syntaxx | i have problem in testing root-tail it says refused by server |
| 20:26.40 | sleon|tuX | !+find /usr/bin/cc |
| 20:26.41 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:26.46 | vortek | ahh well I could try to reinstall with these sarge cd's |
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| 20:26.52 | greycat | sleon|tuX: it's a symlink. |
| 20:26.52 | nvz | the chords on this site use red dots, but the damn scales use black and the fuckin frets are black :P |
| 20:26.52 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/bin/cc' returned no results. |
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| 20:26.53 | dondelelcaro | sleon|tuX: that's not going to work. |
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| 20:27.04 | greycat | sleon|tuX: it's an update-alternatives thing. |
| 20:27.14 | sleon|tuX | greycat, symlink to what |
| 20:27.17 | greycat | sleon|tuX: ls -l it. |
| 20:27.26 | sleon|tuX | greycat, i don't have it |
| 20:27.27 | vortek | dondelelcaro, only problem is the cd's give synch errors like a mug during the the later install proces after it reboots lol |
| 20:27.34 | greycat | sleon|tuX: update-alternatives --config cc |
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| 20:27.44 | Reilithion | nvz: so it's in mtab |
| 20:27.47 | greycat | (how can you NOT have it??) |
| 20:27.52 | greycat | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2004-09-06 10:50 /usr/bin/cc -> /etc/alternatives/cc* |
| 20:27.54 | dondelelcaro | it's an alternative installed by the gcc package; if you don't have it, install build-essential |
| 20:28.03 | sleon|tuX | sleon@squid:~/conary-0.61.12/lib$ sudo update-alternatives --config cc |
| 20:28.03 | sleon|tuX | No alternatives for cc. |
| 20:28.04 | vortek | dondelelcaro, works perfect during boot though .... thats ok ill just figure out whats going on here |
| 20:28.13 | vortek | thanss for the the help |
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| 20:28.15 | greycat | sleon|tuX: installing a C compiler would help. |
| 20:28.27 | sleon|tuX | !+find /etc/alternatives/cc |
| 20:28.29 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:28.37 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/etc/alternatives/cc' returned no results. |
| 20:28.40 | asg | sleon|tuX: just install build-essential and leave the bot alone |
| 20:28.41 | nvz | Reilithion: I am not believing it. paste it with paster or in #flood or something |
| 20:28.41 | dondelelcaro | sleon|tuX: again, that won't work. install build-essential already |
| 20:28.47 | vortek | ok who recomends an alternative to gnome that is small and sound ? Im on dial up here lol |
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| 20:28.56 | Reilithion | nvz: /dev/sda /media/usbdisk vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,uid=1000,gid=112,umask=077 0 0 |
| 20:28.56 | asg | vortek: ion, fvwm, or fluxbox |
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| 20:29.03 | vortek | thanxs |
| 20:29.05 | dondelelcaro | vortek: just use a window manager. |
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| 20:29.17 | vortek | im gona get rid of this crappy udev crap |
| 20:29.23 | vortek | that gnome depends on |
| 20:29.24 | SerajewelKS | vortek, icewm is good too |
| 20:29.24 | greycat | vortek: yay! |
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| 20:29.27 | asg | vortek: though if you want a DE, then try xfce4 or icewm |
| 20:29.29 | sleon|tuX | pff |
| 20:29.35 | vortek | DE ? |
| 20:29.38 | antgel | !start a wm war |
| 20:29.39 | dpkg | KDE bites! |
| 20:29.39 | greycat | !de |
| 20:29.39 | dpkg | de is, like, deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 20:29.42 | vortek | greyca :DOt, |
| 20:29.42 | greycat | bah. |
| 20:29.43 | antgel | indeed |
| 20:29.44 | asg | vortek: desktop environementy thing |
| 20:29.53 | Gnea | lol |
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| 20:29.55 | vortek | asg im on dial up |
| 20:29.59 | vortek | tke to long |
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| 20:30.09 | asg | vortek: then use ion, fvwm, or fluxbox |
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| 20:30.22 | ArtistAgent | word dpkg kde does bite lol! |
| 20:30.26 | kspath | openbox3? |
| 20:30.27 | vortek | yeah no E for me |
| 20:30.32 | asg | kspath: or that |
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| 20:30.45 | Gnea | vortek: whta's wrong with E? |
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| 20:30.51 | greycat | it's not fvwm. |
| 20:30.51 | asg | Gnea: he's on dialup |
| 20:30.54 | nvz | Reilithion: you got me confused. you must be using some strange device system I am not familiar with I cant fathom how you got a vfat filesystem on /dev/sda |
| 20:31.00 | kspath | greycat: LOL |
| 20:31.00 | asg | Gnea: wtf that has to do with things |
| 20:31.02 | Gnea | oh |
| 20:31.12 | Gnea | asg: good question |
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| 20:31.30 | syntaxx | i had problem in testing root-tail it says refused by server anyone knows why? |
| 20:31.46 | Reilithion | It's a 256 MB SDmedia card |
| 20:31.46 | greycat | syntaxx: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
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| 20:32.36 | vortek | infact this dial up is so crapy in this spinal rehab center tht I had to bust out the 1998 usb external usb modem just to get threw the cyclic fain tones |
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| 20:33.20 | asg | vortek: I remember 100k taking close to an hour to download, stop whining. |
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| 20:33.42 | shimano55 | Question, Apparently, in my last update with Synaptic, it installed a newer version of mysql. Now I am having trouble getting mysqld to come come up at startup. It returns an error that the socket is not configured. How can I fix this? |
| 20:33.43 | eutopia | asg: in 1929? |
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| 20:33.53 | nvz | I cant for the life of me figure out what B5 means I am not sure if that is a power chord or what |
| 20:33.58 | asg | eutopia: mid '80s, same thing in this case. |
| 20:34.09 | black_Nightmare | euto..no more likely when modems were just 900 and higher bauds I think :p |
| 20:34.10 | dondelelcaro | nvz: someone specified B5? how wierd |
| 20:34.13 | sleon|tuX | !+find gelf.h |
| 20:34.14 | greycat | nvz: babylon 5? :) |
| 20:34.15 | asg | nvz: ask spoopin when he's on |
| 20:34.15 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:34.22 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gelf.h' (1): (/usr/include/gelf.h, /usr/include/libelf/gelf.h) in libdevel/libelfg0-dev. |
| 20:34.22 | eutopia | vortek: you create your own happiness and content! be grateful you even have a modem! 90% of worls dont and live in poverty |
| 20:34.27 | greycat | nvz: apart from that, yeah, probably a B and the 5th above it. |
| 20:34.30 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, uninstall mysql-server and install mysql-server4 |
| 20:34.50 | eutopia | vortek: you remind me of one of those ungratreful people who always complain about everything |
| 20:34.52 | greycat | B and F# |
| 20:34.57 | dondelelcaro | since B5 is generally just written B. (unless they mean B+F#) |
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| 20:35.05 | vortek | eutopia, true :) |
| 20:35.12 | vortek | eutopia, your dead wrong there |
| 20:35.13 | nvz | dondelelcaro: seriously B-5 would be Bdim I guess I dont understand the numbers thing unless there is a maj, min, dim ..etc cause I know how to calculate chords by scale degrees but I need to know what kind of chord I am building |
| 20:35.19 | Eulex | sleon|tuX, go use apt-file locally, or talk to the boot privately |
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| 20:35.31 | greycat | nvz: play whatever sounds right. |
| 20:35.43 | vortek | eutopia, Im paralyzed from the waste right now cause of neurosarcoidsis and barely got my legs moving and I'm in good spirits |
| 20:35.53 | asg | nvz: this is rock after all |
| 20:36.08 | eutopia | vortek: you are a spoilt brat! you should be stripped of your home and everything, and placed in africa for 1 year and live like they do, no food, no clean water, no nothing! then we shall see how you feel |
| 20:36.08 | vortek | eutopia, this crap can spread and kill me with i namonth any time lol |
| 20:36.16 | eutopia | vortek: you expect us to believe that story? |
| 20:36.32 | vortek | eutopia, your a jerk man |
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| 20:36.33 | Gnea | eutopia: i do. |
| 20:36.37 | eutopia | vortek: i heard that same story on a movie |
| 20:36.39 | vortek | yeah all my friends know of it |
| 20:36.52 | vortek | eutopia, bs neurosarcoidsis is so rare there is no movie on it |
| 20:36.57 | vortek | eutopia, your mental bro |
| 20:36.59 | eutopia | vortek: how are you typing so fast? |
| 20:37.00 | greycat | vortek: there *are* people who get their kicks by faking some serious illness online. |
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| 20:37.06 | antgel | eutopia: are you for real? |
| 20:37.07 | vortek | eutopia, from the waste down |
| 20:37.10 | greycat | vortek: so skepticism is a healthy defense |
| 20:37.12 | dondelelcaro | arg, leave it to guitar players to write freaking wierd chords |
| 20:37.18 | asg | dondelelcaro: of course |
| 20:37.18 | Eulex | <sleon|tuX> you know what : FUCK YOU |
| 20:37.20 | vortek | yeah i gues |
| 20:37.27 | nvz | I would think it has to be a power chord its what it sounds like to me |
| 20:37.29 | eutopia | vortek said this same "story" before |
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| 20:37.40 | vortek | eutopia, just causeline I complain a\bout a crapy line you think you know every thing |
| 20:37.41 | dondelelcaro | Eulex: just use /ignore if you have a problem with someone |
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| 20:37.46 | asg | dondelelcaro: then again, who needs cords when you have Al Dimeola |
| 20:37.46 | Reilithion | How can I force a device to start cleaning up for unmounting? |
| 20:37.47 | vortek | eutopia, you need med sman |
| 20:37.48 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yeah, that's what it is supposed to be |
| 20:37.49 | eutopia | vortek: how are you typing so fast if you cant use your hands? |
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| 20:37.57 | nvz | I'll try make sense of the rest of the progression first and work backwards |
| 20:38.02 | vortek | eutopia, what part of from thee WASTE down dont you understand |
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| 20:38.09 | greycat | vortek: "waist" |
| 20:38.10 | eutopia | vortek: you are the one taking antidepressents dude |
| 20:38.13 | dondelelcaro | eutopia, vortek: yeesh, take it elsewhere. |
| 20:38.25 | vortek | eutopia, why dont you do to maryfreebed.com and read what they do ther |
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| 20:38.33 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 20:38.38 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: good idea |
| 20:38.44 | Gnea | greycat: that's true, but then when i was at LWE there was this guy who had a legitimate issue with his debian installation who was in a wheelchair - he had printouts and everything of the config files - so yes, there really are people out there who have conditions such as that and they can be sensitive to that. |
| 20:38.49 | eutopia | dondelelcaro: vortek comes here complaining andf looking for attention |
| 20:38.52 | sleon|tuX | <corasen> Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign => www.webcamera.gen.ms |
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| 20:39.00 | greycat | Gnea: yeah, I understand. |
| 20:39.01 | streuner | haha |
| 20:39.03 | Caelum | vortek: are they going to cure you of that shit? |
| 20:39.23 | Gnea | now that's a good solution. :) |
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| 20:39.30 | nvz | what I really hate is when someone says they've tabbed something and then all you get is lyrics is chords.. thats not fucking tab :P |
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| 20:39.52 | asg | nvz: they just want the click-through revenue |
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| 20:40.07 | streuner | dondelelcaro is in bad mood since yesterday (spambot-attac) .... |
| 20:40.21 | greycat | yeah, he's usually not this sensitive |
| 20:40.31 | streuner | he spent the whole evening to fight against, now that ... :-) |
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| 20:40.54 | Gnea | weeee, e17 bugs |
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| 20:40.58 | Reilithion | At the risk of repeating myself, how can I force a device to start cleaning up for unmounting? /dev/sda isn't unmounting because it's "busy" |
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| 20:41.11 | greycat | Reilithion: fuser, lsof |
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| 20:41.13 | asg | Reilithion: fuser, lsof (find what's using it and stop that thing) |
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| 20:41.14 | greycat | find out why it's busy |
| 20:41.15 | dondelelcaro | Reilithion: just use the -l option to umount; |
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| 20:41.18 | Reilithion | thanks |
| 20:41.24 | Caelum | well, my psychiatrists are currently (literally) frying half my brain, but I'm just happy they took me off antipsychotics so that I can do stuff in linux for the first time in like a year |
| 20:41.32 | Gnea | Reilithion: find out what process(es) are utilizing it (probably a shell cd'd to it) |
| 20:41.47 | antgel | you don't need tab for Pink Floyd :) |
| 20:41.48 | streuner | nvz: good idea... |
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| 20:41.57 | asg | nvz: Dreamer Deceiver (Judas Priest -- Sad Wings of Destiny) (it's a lot of fun) |
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| 20:42.34 | antgel | you all want to listen to dream theater and rush. the debian of rock and roll |
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| 20:42.43 | greycat | !dream_theater++ |
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| 20:42.58 | cadu | !dream_theater++ |
| 20:43.01 | asg | antgel: nah, Fate's Warning trumps DT |
| 20:43.02 | cadu | i love it too ! |
| 20:43.04 | nvz | my friend was showing me the progression to Wish You Were Here the other day looks to be pretty simple I will start there |
| 20:43.08 | greycat | !start a music war |
| 20:43.08 | dpkg | Led Zeppelin sucks! |
| 20:43.18 | cadu | dream theater rocks ! |
| 20:43.19 | antgel | oh dear |
| 20:43.23 | antgel | the humanity |
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| 20:43.31 | dondelelcaro | heh |
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| 20:43.37 | asg | antgel: vogonity |
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| 20:43.59 | cadu | yesterday |
| 20:44.00 | antgel | it's quite clear that in a linux irc channel, i could phish for dream theater and rush and get some bites :) |
| 20:44.00 | cadu | rocks |
| 20:44.05 | cadu | greycat: did you watch it ? |
| 20:44.08 | greycat | cadu: no |
| 20:44.11 | cadu | greycat: why? |
| 20:44.12 | shimano55 | SerajewelKS, why? |
| 20:44.16 | greycat | because... I don't have it? |
| 20:44.26 | cadu | greycat: oh, you should buy it so :) |
| 20:44.28 | antgel | cadu: i still don't have the dvd, am renovating flat and have nowhere to watch it |
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| 20:44.45 | jkaufman | grrr |
| 20:44.51 | cadu | it's great ;) |
| 20:44.51 | jkaufman | this spammer is bloody annoying |
| 20:44.54 | greycat | I saw DT open for Yes last year (just a one-hour set unfortunately) |
| 20:44.56 | antgel | asg: no offence, but FW don't really move me. i thought you need to be greek or italian |
| 20:45.03 | streuner | jkaufman: /topic |
| 20:45.08 | asg | antgel: they are from Florida |
| 20:45.12 | antgel | greycat: did they blow the old gits away? |
| 20:45.25 | greycat | no, actually Yes kicked some serious ass too. |
| 20:45.28 | jkaufman | what does +E do? |
| 20:45.28 | antgel | asg: they may well be but they appeal to the more european prog fan |
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| 20:45.33 | asg | antgel: The keyboard player for DT played on FW's last album so there are some similarities. |
| 20:45.35 | streuner | dpkg, mode e |
| 20:45.35 | dpkg | +E makes it such that only nickserv identified users can /msg you |
| 20:45.40 | greycat | and DT didn't do most of their "heavy metal" music |
| 20:45.41 | jkaufman | awesome |
| 20:45.46 | antgel | greycat: really? i was under the impression that yes were crap since about 1980 |
| 20:45.54 | antgel | greycat: they aren't stupid |
| 20:45.55 | jkaufman | i like this +E |
| 20:45.55 | jkaufman | :) |
| 20:46.06 | greycat | antgel: they've gone back to the 1970s line-up except the drummer |
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| 20:46.14 | asg | greycat: DT opened for Yes? must have been a good show. |
| 20:46.25 | greycat | antgel: this show in Cleveland, they did both Close to the Edge *AND* And You and I |
| 20:46.33 | greycat | asg: very good show. |
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| 20:46.42 | antgel | greycat: yeah, but i bought keys from ascension a while ago, and it sounded so slow and unexciting. |
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| 20:47.08 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, because there's a bug with mysql-server, IIRC |
| 20:47.10 | antgel | greycat: is alan white drumming? |
| 20:47.14 | greycat | antgel: yes |
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| 20:47.22 | greycat | or at least he was last year |
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| 20:47.58 | antgel | greycat: i remember hearing ctte for the first time a few years ago and it sounded like a mess, asfter 10 listens or so, it started to make sense (musically) |
| 20:48.04 | nvz | oh my .. I've been getting popups in firefox lately.. I thought this wasnt suppose to happen. This one actually caught my attention they were zooming in on a cold beer |
| 20:48.06 | harleyg | i have two 9.1gig hds, my system is on a proper messed hd, its starting to go lol. but fdisk -l or fstab/mtab doesnt show the other one so how do i find out what it is? |
| 20:48.24 | asg | harleyg: it went 'lol'? |
| 20:48.27 | greycat | antgel: not one of my favorite songs, but it's damned impressive when they pull out the whole damned thing in a live show |
| 20:48.32 | nvz | was an AOL Fantasy Football advertisement |
| 20:48.36 | harleyg | nah its on its way :P |
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| 20:49.03 | antgel | greycat: in the studio, i refuse to listen to anything post going for the one :) whereas with rush, i love all their output |
| 20:49.05 | Reilithion | Cool. Got it to work |
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| 20:49.13 | Reilithion | thanks, everyone |
| 20:49.15 | Reilithion | ^_^ |
| 20:49.16 | harleyg | so has anyone got any ideas? |
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| 20:49.52 | Caelum | harleyg: check your /var/log/messages |
| 20:49.55 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, what does mysql say when you try to run it |
| 20:49.59 | greycat | antgel: I'm underwhelmed by Rush's output after Counterparts. |
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| 20:50.16 | shimano55 | SerajewelKS, hold on, still downloading it |
| 20:50.17 | harleyg | why do i need to |
| 20:50.19 | asg | greycat: was that the one with 'Alien Shore(s)' on it? |
| 20:50.21 | harleyg | it ont know my hd |
| 20:50.24 | gravity | greycat: Me too, as much as it pains me to say it |
| 20:50.25 | greycat | asg: yes |
| 20:50.25 | harleyg | its a scsi |
| 20:50.28 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, what does your CURRENT mysqld say |
| 20:50.33 | asg | greycat: that is one damn good song. |
| 20:50.34 | harleyg | i have 4 scsi hds and 2 ide |
| 20:50.39 | greycat | asg: Counterparts is a fine album. |
| 20:50.41 | antgel | greycat: the only turkey to me is roll the bones. tfe is a great album imo, and i even liked vapor trails. a lot actually. |
| 20:50.42 | asg | greycat: indeed |
| 20:50.49 | gravity | Although Test For Echo has its moments |
| 20:50.51 | Reilithion | Eulex: That'd be cool! Hardware easter eggs! |
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| 20:50.54 | greycat | I don't like test for echo |
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| 20:51.09 | SerajewelKS | greycat, wtf |
| 20:51.12 | gravity | It hasn't worn well |
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| 20:51.17 | shimano55 | SerajewelKS, what is the command to start it? I always just did it through start-up |
| 20:51.18 | cbr | i want to do that too |
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| 20:51.28 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| 20:51.30 | gravity | Different Stages was awesome, but that doesn't really count |
| 20:51.33 | pem3v78 | I use latest kernel (2.6.12.5) and Geforce 6800 Ultra. The frame buffer mode switching doesn't, but "fbset" reports that the mode is set. When I change the mode with "fbset" the screen is crapped. Any ideas that's wrongg ? |
| 20:51.37 | SerajewelKS | er |
| 20:51.40 | Caelum | harleyg: it will tell you what hds the kernel saw, or you could just try fdisk -l /dev/hdc or whatever |
| 20:51.41 | gravity | I didn't even bother to pick up Vapor Trails |
| 20:51.41 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 20:51.50 | sleon|tuX | haha |
| 20:51.55 | sleon|tuX | i am using conary on debian now |
| 20:52.03 | nvz | oh well I am oficially not playing anything involving sliding anymore until my fingers are calyst again. the strings are just getting caugt in layers of soft dead skin |
| 20:52.03 | shimano55 | -su: /etc/init.d/mysqld: No such file or directory |
| 20:52.04 | harleyg | my main hd is /dev/hdc1 |
| 20:52.08 | greycat | I've think I've got vapor trails but haven't listened to it much |
| 20:52.20 | shimano55 | SerajewelKS, -su: /etc/init.d/mysqld: No such file or directory |
| 20:52.21 | greycat | shimano55: ls /etc/init.d |
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| 20:52.26 | Caelum | harleyg: your partition is /dev/hdc1 your hd is /dev/hdc |
| 20:52.27 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, did you uninstall mysql-server? |
| 20:52.37 | harleyg | yes |
| 20:52.42 | harleyg | but i want to move it the the other hd |
| 20:52.44 | shimano55 | SerajewelKS< ya, like you told me to |
| 20:52.52 | harleyg | hdc is the hd the system is currently on |
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| 20:52.54 | antgel | greycat: it's a _real_ grower. then again at 28 i'm younger than some rush fans who are stuck in the 80's and lament the fact that every release isn't power windows 2 |
| 20:52.57 | harleyg | there ones hd exactly the same |
| 20:52.59 | Caelum | harleyg: so check for other devices with fdisk -l if you don't want to look in your kernel log |
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| 20:53.01 | harleyg | but it hasnt found it... |
| 20:53.03 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, okay well |
| 20:53.08 | harleyg | its not there |
| 20:53.09 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, let's hope 4 works =) |
| 20:53.12 | harleyg | thats why im asking |
| 20:53.13 | Reilithion | What's with the [ozan27] Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign => stuff lately? |
| 20:53.15 | shimano55 | hehe |
| 20:53.17 | harleyg | the kernel log hasnt found it either.. |
| 20:53.22 | Caelum | harleyg: then it isn't connected properly |
| 20:53.26 | antgel | and as a uk-based rush fan, i'm an even rarer breed |
| 20:53.27 | Hawson | afternoon |
| 20:53.29 | Caelum | harleyg: especially if they're on the same controller |
| 20:53.31 | SerajewelKS | !topicsmite Reilithion |
| 20:53.32 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Reilithion. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 20:53.36 | shimano55 | SerajewelKS, seems to have worked |
| 20:53.41 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, ok |
| 20:53.53 | Reilithion | lol |
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| 20:53.59 | streuner | Reilithion: what do you think? A new feature of #debian? |
| 20:54.02 | Hawson | I'm trying to upgrade a box, and 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' shows 0 packages to upgrade, and almost 600 as "kept-back" |
| 20:54.08 | Reilithion | ok, thanks SerajewelKS. I'll try to be more aware |
| 20:54.16 | shimano55 | SerajewelKS, thanks again |
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| 20:54.26 | SerajewelKS | Reilithion, lol, i just like that smite and love an excuse to use it |
| 20:54.28 | lamp_ | Hawson, apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 20:54.31 | SerajewelKS | shimano55, np |
| 20:54.33 | streuner | Reilithion: don't paste their shit next time here, thanks. |
| 20:54.38 | Caelum | Hawson: try apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:54.39 | Hawson | an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' shows ~280MB of updates, but not all of the packages upgreaded. Some are, and some are simply mremoved |
| 20:54.51 | antgel | Hawson: is this a sarge box? |
| 20:55.21 | Hawson | two examples: alsa-utils and frozenbubble. |
| 20:55.45 | Hawson | both are slated for removeal, and are neither upgraded nor "installed" again |
| 20:56.03 | Eulex | hmm, Hawson, what are you dist-upgrading to and have you got any unofficial apt sources? |
| 20:56.05 | lamp_ | Hawson, are you running unstable |
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| 20:56.06 | Caelum | Hawson: save the names of things you don't want removed then apt-get install them again I guess |
| 20:56.19 | Eulex | Caelum, no |
| 20:56.22 | Hawson | lamp_: no. I am pulling stuff from backports.org though |
| 20:56.49 | harleyg | ill stop |
| 20:56.54 | antgel | greycat, asg cadu: if you like transatlantic, www.antgel.co.uk/music/transatlantic_oxford.shtml |
| 20:56.55 | Hawson | actually, I take that back. I'm not. |
| 20:56.56 | Eulex | Caelum, things he are installing are conflicting with that stuff. he won't be able to install it. |
| 20:57.16 | Caelum | Eulex: sorry, that was stupid yeah |
| 20:57.24 | Hawson | I'm only pulling stuff from debian.org |
| 20:57.53 | antgel | Hawson: what if you try aptitude? |
| 20:58.09 | Eulex | Hawson, again, what are you trying to dist-upgrade to? |
| 20:58.11 | streuner | antgel: what kind of music is this? |
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| 20:58.23 | antgel | streuner: i suppose prog |
| 20:58.26 | Hawson | antgel: haven't tried it. |
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| 20:58.45 | Hawson | Eulex: Eulex I'm basically trying to get the many updates the box needs. |
| 20:58.49 | nvz | cant get gtkguitune to register anything and I can only tune relatively and its apperent that I am going flat |
| 20:59.01 | antgel | Hawson: so this is a sarge box that you last upgraded when? and _have you ever_ run any other repositories on it? |
| 20:59.04 | Caelum | Hawson: what I do when a lot of stuff is kept back is copy it to a file then do apt-get install `cat thefile` and remove the uninstallable stuff |
| 20:59.13 | Hawson | Given there are a *lot* listed as "kept-back"... |
| 20:59.22 | Hawson | antgel: yes, long ago |
| 20:59.27 | Hawson | (from backports.org) |
| 20:59.44 | Hawson | I'm not using it now though |
| 20:59.49 | antgel | Hawson: well that's gonna hurt. let it do what it wants then re-install what you need. |
| 20:59.54 | Eulex | Hawson, that box has been running sarge since sarge was testing? |
| 21:00.00 | Hawson | Eulex: no |
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| 21:00.22 | Eulex | Hawson, then you shouldn't need 280mb updates. sarge is stable. |
| 21:00.34 | Hawson | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
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| 21:01.13 | asg | !dynamic mmap |
| 21:01.13 | dpkg | it has been said that dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ The release notes tell you to use Aptitude, not apt-get, for Sarge upgrades. see <release notes> |
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| 21:01.54 | antgel | Hawson: why would you change sources.list to see what happens? put in what you want and deal with the consequences |
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| 21:02.53 | Eulex | Hawson, if you've just been running stable sarge on that box, you shouldn't need any updates at all |
| 21:03.02 | Eulex | Hawson, has this box been running woody? |
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| 21:03.10 | asg | nvz: http://www.line6.com/products/detail/4/ (get one of these) |
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| 21:03.20 | Hawson | Eulex: no woody. It was, aty one point, pulling from backports.org |
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| 21:03.46 | Hawson | antgel: the box ran sarge, then sarge+backports, then sarge |
| 21:03.54 | antgel | Hawson: brilliant. |
| 21:04.05 | Reilithion | werd. I only have 186 MB on a 256 MB card. Should I reformat it or what? |
| 21:04.06 | Hawson | now, I'm con(cerned|fused) since there are a lot of unapplied updates |
| 21:04.06 | SerajewelKS | antgel, brillant =) |
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| 21:04.34 | antgel | Hawson: what do you want to achieve? |
| 21:04.34 | Eulex | Hawson, do you have any unofficial repos in your source.list? |
| 21:04.46 | Eulex | *sources.list |
| 21:04.53 | Hawson | antgel: updates |
| 21:05.04 | Hawson | Eulex: until about 30 seconds ago. NO |
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| 21:05.12 | Hawson | s/NO/No./ |
| 21:05.16 | antgel | Hawson: updates to what? sarge? sarge+backports? freebsd? palmos? |
| 21:05.22 | nvz | asg: my neighbor has something like that.. little USB thingy that does effects. I dont play electric dont really care for it. I dont have dreams of being a rock and roll star I just like the sound of an acoustic guitar |
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| 21:05.32 | Hawson | updates for sarge |
| 21:05.49 | nvz | asg: my guitar thats still in dallas is a Takamine G-Series acoustic-electric |
| 21:05.53 | asg | nvz: it has a nice chorus for acoustic and a number of nice amp models |
| 21:05.56 | antgel | Hawson: then fix your sources.list. apt-get update. apt-get install aptitude. aptitude dist-upgrade. |
| 21:05.58 | Hawson | and a reason as to why the other 587 packages are 'kept' back |
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| 21:06.09 | antgel | Hawson: because you fucked around with backports |
| 21:06.21 | Eulex | Hawson, thing is, there haven't been any updates for sarge yet |
| 21:06.33 | Reilithion | How should I go about formatting an SDmedia card? |
| 21:06.40 | Hawson | okay, let me ask a different question: why are packages "kept-back"? |
| 21:06.54 | antgel | Hawson: because you fucked around with backports |
| 21:07.01 | asg | nvz: I have a nice Martin (acoustic only), a Custom electric (spoopin can tell you the story of that one), and a Takamine Classical (on loan from spoopin). |
| 21:07.11 | nvz | asg: right now I am just trying to tune my top note cause I can tell its going flat.. works fine on my dad's laptop using AP Tuner on windows.. but this gtkguitune isnt doing shit on line or mic.. granted I dont have a mic.. but using the headphones and sticking them inside the guitar works on windows |
| 21:07.13 | Hawson | Eulex: <nod> |
| 21:07.24 | SerajewelKS | why does 'aptitude dist-upgrade' insist on upgrading packages that are held? |
| 21:07.32 | antgel | Eulex: apart from security options |
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| 21:07.56 | asg | nvz: maybe you are missing something in the mixer settings? |
| 21:08.05 | antgel | s/options/upgrades/. jesus |
| 21:08.29 | Eulex | antgel, ah, yes there are, I was thinking about 3.1rx's -- though those security updates can't sum up to 280mb |
| 21:08.40 | nvz | asg: I was at first must be crosseyed but then I tried switching the record device around between line and mic and moving the jack, changing settings on gtkguitune.. etc cant get even a blip on the thing |
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| 21:09.03 | SerajewelKS | nvz, what is your sound card.. i may have experienced this |
| 21:09.04 | asg | nvz: hmmm |
| 21:09.05 | eXistenZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.10 | asg | eXistenZ: startx |
| 21:09.14 | nvz | SerajewelKS: some piece of shit let me check |
| 21:09.22 | eXistenZ | erm |
| 21:09.22 | nvz | 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 21:09.27 | SerajewelKS | yup |
| 21:09.34 | antgel | nvz and other guitar geeks: www.guitarshredshow.com. the only good flash website ever. |
| 21:09.35 | asg | eXistenZ: your question was, admittedly, a bit vague. |
| 21:09.40 | eXistenZ | asg: this is not what I meant, I mean you got loads of windows opened here, and you want to move to desktop. |
| 21:09.50 | SerajewelKS | nvz, try muting/unmuting the "Mic as Center" device |
| 21:09.52 | Eulex | eXistenZ, hasn't got anything to do with debian, it has to do with your DE/WM |
| 21:09.53 | antgel | eXistenZ: it's wm-specific |
| 21:09.55 | eXistenZ | asg: in windows there is a key called "show desktop" |
| 21:09.57 | asg | eXistenZ: I expect it depends on your window manager / desktop environment |
| 21:10.04 | eXistenZ | I got kde |
| 21:10.05 | eXistenZ | =/ |
| 21:10.08 | nvz | SerajewelKS: the what as what? |
| 21:10.16 | antgel | eXistenZ: have you read the kde documentation? |
| 21:10.24 | Eulex | eXistenZ, -> #debian-kde |
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| 21:10.35 | asg | eXistenZ: personally, all my windows are placed exactly where I want them on mutliple virtual desktops so a 'show desktop' function is worthless for me. |
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| 21:11.01 | eXistenZ | asg: I like to have my applications run with full screen |
| 21:11.04 | SerajewelKS | nvz, there should be a device on alsamixer "Mic as Center" |
| 21:11.10 | eXistenZ | so I need to flip between windows so much |
| 21:11.20 | eXistenZ | asg: do you have any online pic of you desktop? :) |
| 21:11.23 | antgel | eXistenZ: then scrap kde and use ratpoison |
| 21:11.24 | Eulex | eXistenZ, you ever heard of workspaces? |
| 21:11.33 | asg | eXistenZ: some of mine are also but they are fullscreen on seperate virtual desktops. |
| 21:11.36 | eXistenZ | Eulex: like virtual desktops? |
| 21:11.41 | nvz | SerajewelKS: I will look. I normally use aumix |
| 21:11.43 | Reilithion | how come there isn't a #debian-gnome? |
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| 21:11.47 | eXistenZ | Eulex: I still don't know what they are used for tho =/ |
| 21:11.53 | antgel | Reilithion: he was stolen |
| 21:11.56 | asg | eXistenZ: imagine a desktop with 1 to 5 rxvts and one or two running firefox. That's it, there isn't anything else. |
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| 21:12.09 | Reilithion | really? that sucks |
| 21:12.36 | asg | Reilithion: debian's gnome channel is on oftc.net |
| 21:12.51 | Reilithion | coolies |
| 21:13.08 | Reilithion | any advice on formatting my SDmedia card? |
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| 21:13.13 | valdyn | eXistenZ: maybe you could have used google: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t309854.html ( i never use kde though ) |
| 21:13.18 | SerajewelKS | Reilithion, use mkfs.vfat |
| 21:13.19 | atom_z | I installed the ogle package and libdvdread (+ ran the script to install libdvdcss)... I tried playing a DVD, and it starts just fine, except that after about 5 seconds or so it fails with: |
| 21:13.19 | atom_z | No accelerated IMDCT transform found |
| 21:13.19 | atom_z | ctrl: ipc_rmid: Invalid argument |
| 21:13.33 | eXistenZ | valydn: do you use gnome? |
| 21:13.46 | nvz | SerajewelKS: I got Mic, Mic Boost, and Mic Select. only Mic is a slider and Mic Select I can toggle mic1 or mic2. I have no idea how to work alsa mixer.. says I am View: Playback and I think I want View: Record if thats possible |
| 21:13.48 | Reilithion | SerajewelKS: Do I need to use ftl_format first? |
| 21:14.08 | SerajewelKS | nvz, mic as center is on playback |
| 21:14.15 | valdyn | eXistenZ: its actually running, but i dont really use 'desktop' functionality |
| 21:14.17 | SerajewelKS | Reilithion, wtf is that |
| 21:14.25 | nvz | SerajewelKS: not for me |
| 21:14.35 | nvz | and damnit I just split my screen windows somehow |
| 21:14.38 | Reilithion | SerajewelKS: ftl_format (8) - Flash Translation Layer formatting utility |
| 21:14.39 | SerajewelKS | nvz, hmm well, that fixed recording for me :> |
| 21:15.00 | eXistenZ | I see |
| 21:15.02 | eXistenZ | text-based? |
| 21:15.03 | nvz | now I got to figure out how to fix my screen |
| 21:15.04 | SerajewelKS | Reilithion, i dunno, i've always used mkfs.. only had problems reading it on OS X |
| 21:15.04 | eXistenZ | without the x |
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| 21:15.42 | Reilithion | ok. thanks |
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| 21:15.53 | nvz | antgel: that site seems incredibly stupid and has nothing to do with tuning a guitar :P |
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| 21:16.20 | antgel | nvz: it's great. now i can shred boringly like vai etc ;) |
| 21:16.41 | asg | !impeliterrismite antgel |
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| 21:16.55 | SerajewelKS | O_o |
| 21:17.19 | Eulex | eXistenZ, take a look at http://eulex.0nyx.com/msscrewed.png -- don't care about the web page, look at the right part of the panel, there's a graphical pager, which shows the positions of all the windows on my 6 workspaces |
| 21:17.35 | nvz | can anyone help me I split my screen and the manpage doesnt seem to outline how to navigate splits or close it.. just how to make it |
| 21:17.47 | SerajewelKS | nvz, what screen |
| 21:17.51 | nvz | screen |
| 21:17.51 | Eulex | eXistenZ, bottom right, that is |
| 21:17.56 | nvz | is there more than one? |
| 21:18.53 | nvz | antgel: I dont even know wtf that means |
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| 21:19.44 | nvz | If my guitar would play itself or I could get someone to play for me all the time I wouldnt even care.. I just like the sound of the acoustic and not enough musicians play good acoustic for me |
| 21:20.05 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: I use <ctrl>a and n and p to naviagate |
| 21:20.15 | nvz | I have no desire to learn to play or become a star or anything like that |
| 21:20.17 | antgel | nvz: check out some of the brit folk guys, john redbourn, richard thompson etc |
| 21:20.28 | nvz | scarynetworkguy: how to I get rid of it? |
| 21:20.39 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: exit closes it. |
| 21:20.59 | nvz | scarynetworkguy: C-a n and p just switch the screens on the top.. the bottom split is blank, has nothing at all in it |
| 21:21.00 | petemc | nvz: nick drake |
| 21:21.11 | nvz | petemc: what? |
| 21:21.13 | Reilithion | SerajewelKS: mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sda' (use -I if wanted) |
| 21:21.16 | eXistenZ | Eulex: take a look at my box, http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7061/snapshot22zw.jpg |
| 21:21.19 | petemc | nvz: sounds right up your street |
| 21:21.28 | Reilithion | SerajewelKS: Should I use -I or create a partition? |
| 21:21.29 | nvz | petemc: what? |
| 21:21.30 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: We might be talking about different things. http://www.scarynetworkguy.net/screen.png |
| 21:21.37 | petemc | nvz: forget it |
| 21:21.37 | SerajewelKS | Reilithion, partition |
| 21:21.47 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: How did you create the split? |
| 21:22.12 | SerajewelKS | nvz, CTRL+ALT+BKSP :> |
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| 21:22.30 | nvz | scarynetworkguy: hell if I know C-a S I guess it happened by accident I use C-a a to toggle between two screens I am working on quickly and I miss fingered I guess |
| 21:22.31 | Eulex | eXistenZ, was just showing it to you to show the concept of workspaces -- btw, that look kinda cluttered |
| 21:22.40 | Reilithion | SerajewelKS: should I use mpartition, or one of the fdisk variants? |
| 21:22.50 | eXistenZ | Eulex: which one |
| 21:22.54 | SerajewelKS | Reilithion, i use fdisk.. it's up to you what you want to use |
| 21:23.01 | Reilithion | k. thanks |
| 21:23.03 | nvz | SerajewelKS: all that does is kill my X session, detaching my screen and disconnecting synergy |
| 21:23.21 | nvz | my screen will still be split and I will have a pc I cannot control anymore |
| 21:23.33 | SerajewelKS | nvz, i was joking... jeez |
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| 21:23.59 | nvz | I am not in a joking mood my 42 line terminal is now like 20 lines and its annoying |
| 21:24.18 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: Huh. That *sucks*. And yeah I was on about the wrong thing... |
| 21:24.47 | megabit | Can zou help me? I installed xorg. And I dont know how can I configure it. |
| 21:24.52 | megabit | Hi |
| 21:24.59 | SerajewelKS | !drxx |
| 21:25.00 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 21:25.19 | Eulex | megabit, sid? |
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| 21:25.33 | nvz | I have no idea whats going on I got a white line below where I am typing then about 20 psuedo-transparent lines (blank on an psuedo transparent term) then another white line at the bottom |
| 21:25.36 | megabit | Eulex, Yes |
| 21:25.47 | SerajewelKS | megabit, read what dpkg said |
| 21:26.03 | Eulex | megabit, why are you running sid if you can't even configure X? |
| 21:26.08 | nvz | its not an irssi split because if I change screens it stays there |
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| 21:27.21 | nvz | I am about to go on a kill(1)ng spree |
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| 21:28.17 | balony | My df says: /dev/hda2 -1295927239791 1 0 30% / |
| 21:28.23 | balony | What the hell has happened? |
| 21:28.28 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: Happy humting man. |
| 21:28.34 | asg | balony: have you updated your glibc lately? |
| 21:28.35 | abrotman | balony: black hole ... run |
| 21:28.37 | megabit | Eulex, I have got sarge. And I upgrad it to sid. And i had xfree86. In xfree86 I configure it - xf86config / cfg. |
| 21:28.56 | Eulex | megabit, don't -- see !drxx above |
| 21:28.58 | balony | asg: no.. and this is an smtp server and no mail is running trough the server, but I see no errors in logfile. |
| 21:29.00 | abrotman | megabit: then you did it wrong |
| 21:29.13 | asg | balony: then I'd start fscking those filesystems |
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| 21:29.17 | antgel | megabit: did you read the factoid? where in the debian docs does it say to use xv86config? |
| 21:29.58 | abrotman | do it again! |
| 21:30.02 | balony | asg: how risky is it to run an fsck while the fs is mounted? |
| 21:30.07 | nvz | scarynetworkguy: well actually I dont have to kill(1) as much as I thought.. cause I have the screen dual-attached (screen -x) on two machines and the split only happened on one of them |
| 21:30.12 | asg | balony: quite risky. |
| 21:30.32 | SerajewelKS | balony, if the fs is mounted read-only it's safe, otherwise it's not |
| 21:30.35 | asg | balony: since no mail is running through, just reboot to single user and fsck those partitions. |
| 21:30.42 | Eulex | balony, if your fs is damaged, it'll most probably be fsck'ed when you reboot |
| 21:30.43 | nvz | ha! bastard! |
| 21:30.54 | balony | asg: the bugger is that im controlling it remote :( |
| 21:31.14 | asg | balony: well, try mount -o remount,ro /file/system |
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| 21:31.29 | Coag | this is wierd |
| 21:31.29 | asg | balony: probably won't work but ... |
| 21:31.31 | balony | Eulex: yeah, but not auto .. (I have to be with the computer to press "y") |
| 21:31.33 | Coag | ok |
| 21:31.41 | Coag | im dual booting right |
| 21:31.44 | Coag | i install debian |
| 21:31.46 | yargo | balony: forcing a check on reboot is your safest bet |
| 21:31.49 | Coag | and just finished gentoo |
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| 21:31.54 | Eulex | balony, ah, that's true |
| 21:32.01 | Coag | i booted into gentoo and its got all the settings from debian |
| 21:32.02 | asg | yargo: but if it requires manual intervention, he will be more fucked than he is now. |
| 21:32.06 | nvz | this is why I cannot use mode based text editors macros drive me fucking nutty |
| 21:32.10 | Coag | and they are installed on seperate partitions |
| 21:32.25 | abrotman | Coag: no it doesn't |
| 21:32.30 | Coag | like the KDE setup i had is the same |
| 21:32.37 | Eulex | Coag, they share /etc? |
| 21:32.38 | nvz | I need to figure out how to remove all s and S commands from screen cause I am not in need of their service now or ever |
| 21:32.38 | Coag | and after emerging xchat |
| 21:32.43 | Coag | it had all my stuff |
| 21:32.49 | Coag | they shouldnt be sharing /etc |
| 21:32.52 | asg | nvz: use the source luke |
| 21:32.55 | abrotman | maybe they share /home? |
| 21:32.56 | antgel | rofl |
| 21:33.00 | Coag | ohhh |
| 21:33.00 | Coag | ok |
| 21:33.06 | Coag | abrotman, that would be it |
| 21:33.08 | antgel | Coag: emerging xchat? |
| 21:33.10 | Eulex | or maybe /usr? |
| 21:33.12 | balony | asg: but you think this definitly is the problem to why postfix doesnt work as it should? I can write other files to the disk without any error. |
| 21:33.21 | Coag | no they share /home |
| 21:33.34 | balony | asg: server has been running stable for a year until now, heh |
| 21:33.40 | asg | balony: then no. However, the error you showed above usually indiates a mismatch between userland and glib |
| 21:33.48 | asg | balony: or glibc rather |
| 21:33.52 | Eulex | balony, whatever has happened could cause anything |
| 21:34.00 | Eulex | to fail |
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| 21:34.10 | balony | what about trying to dist-upgrade? |
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| 21:34.27 | asg | balony: you shouldn't need to since you said you didn't upgrade anything. Or did you? |
| 21:34.27 | balony | this box hasn't been updated for quite a while |
| 21:34.33 | balony | no.. |
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| 21:34.36 | Eulex | balony, no -- will probably just fuck up things even more? |
| 21:34.42 | balony | hmm, yep |
| 21:34.46 | Eulex | s/?/./ |
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| 21:35.33 | phantom_ | hi all |
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| 21:35.51 | phantom_ | I'm tying to configure xdm so root can't login |
| 21:36.00 | abrotman | why? |
| 21:36.13 | phantom_ | I found that it has to be setup in Xsetup but that file doesn't exist |
| 21:36.18 | asg | abrotman: it might be in a lab or something |
| 21:36.28 | Eulex | root should be intelligent enough to not login in X |
| 21:36.44 | phantom_ | abrotman: root should never login in X |
| 21:36.46 | balony | asg: remount just says mount: / is busy |
| 21:36.54 | abrotman | duh |
| 21:36.55 | asg | balony: which makes sense since it is |
| 21:37.04 | abrotman | phantom_: duh .. but how many know root's password? |
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| 21:37.31 | phantom_ | well, the question is: does Xsetup go in /etc/X11/xdm/ directory? |
| 21:37.37 | FieldySnuts | ~punch abrotman |
| 21:37.40 | apt | ACTION hits abrotman like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 21:37.40 | Eulex | whoever has access to the root account should me smart enough to not login into X |
| 21:37.41 | asg | phantom_: then use su or sudo to allow relevant users to become root. invalidate root's password with usermod. |
| 21:37.44 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
| 21:37.46 | FieldySnuts | like what? |
| 21:37.52 | abrotman | !date FieldySnuts |
| 21:38.02 | FieldySnuts | heh I thought you were afraid of randnick |
| 21:38.12 | FieldySnuts | one of these days it'll call up E lectricElf heh |
| 21:38.23 | abrotman | what's the worst that happens .. i get banned ? |
| 21:38.24 | asg | FieldySnuts: didn't it already do that |
| 21:38.33 | FieldySnuts | no, but it got some of the other big names |
| 21:38.43 | asg | FieldySnuts: hmmm, thought it got EE one day. |
| 21:38.43 | FieldySnuts | hit chose h elix earlier today |
| 21:38.50 | abrotman | yeah .. with me |
| 21:38.50 | FieldySnuts | s/hit/it/ |
| 21:38.56 | asg | hah |
| 21:39.19 | FieldySnuts | the ones that have randnick are date, aussiesmite, hire, and once in a great while irritate |
| 21:39.22 | FieldySnuts | probably othres |
| 21:39.29 | FieldySnuts | no wait not aussiesmite |
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| 21:39.59 | FieldySnuts | still goign on? :/ |
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| 21:40.16 | streuner | greycat: spambot? |
| 21:40.21 | greycat | yup |
| 21:40.27 | pygrammer | anyone know anything about integrated Intel soundchips and ALSA? |
| 21:40.35 | pygrammer | Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM |
| 21:40.39 | greycat | I bet #alsa does |
| 21:40.52 | wols | pygrammer: i810 |
| 21:41.01 | pygrammer | wols: so it's supported? |
| 21:41.02 | Eulex | pygrammer, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
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| 21:41.10 | pygrammer | Eulex: everything's installed |
| 21:41.12 | wols | yes. AC97 is supported |
| 21:41.13 | Eulex | pygrammer, yep |
| 21:41.13 | pygrammer | configured with alsaconf |
| 21:41.19 | pygrammer | xmms works |
| 21:41.23 | greycat | make sure you have the ALSA drivers. |
| 21:41.28 | pygrammer | but alsa doesn't mix in and of itself, does it? |
| 21:41.35 | jdhutchin1 | yes, it does |
| 21:41.43 | Quinn_Storm | quick question guys, I'm still looking for the right desktop distro, and debian is still a possibility. I've used it before and use it on my non-desktop boxen. Specifically, I'm willing to live with kde 3.4.1 (currently the latest in debian) -if- debian is planning on having 3.4.2 / 3.5 fairly soon (a few weeks or months at most / not long after it comes out, respectively) does anyone have any more information on this? I'd been using gentoo but got s |
| 21:41.43 | Quinn_Storm | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.43 | jdhutchin1 | you use a mixer to set its mixer settings though |
| 21:41.48 | antgel | pygrammer: get alsamixer(-gui) |
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| 21:41.53 | Eulex | pygrammer, no, you can't everything in debian installed at the same time :P |
| 21:41.58 | greycat | what's the latency on alsa's mixing anyway? I know esd is 1000 ms. |
| 21:42.01 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: ask #debian-kde |
| 21:42.02 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: www.debian.org/releases |
| 21:42.04 | Eulex | *can't have |
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| 21:42.17 | Quinn_Storm | tx, abrotman |
| 21:42.20 | abrotman | kde still sucks |
| 21:42.21 | abrotman | :) |
| 21:42.22 | Eulex | greycat, 1000ms? ewwww |
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| 21:42.39 | jdhutchin1 | greycat, there's no delay on alsa's mixing... |
| 21:42.48 | pygrammer | antgel: i have alsamixer |
| 21:42.51 | jdhutchin1 | the only delay is whatever the soundcard has |
| 21:42.53 | greycat | jdhutchin1: hmm. |
| 21:42.56 | pygrammer | but i *still* can't use more than one audio application at the same time |
| 21:43.06 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: it is unlikely that debian stable will release in the next 12 months. if you like the bleeding edge try debian unstable or if you want to be silly, ubuntu |
| 21:43.07 | drac | jdhutchin1: talking about hardware mixing? |
| 21:43.10 | pygrammer | ought i use esd or something? |
| 21:43.18 | abrotman | antgel: that'd be kubuntu |
| 21:43.21 | pygrammer | does the integrated chip do hardware mixing? |
| 21:43.22 | SerajewelKS | greycat, but ALSA's mixing can mix streams of exactly the same rate, channels, etc |
| 21:43.26 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: I am definately going to be using unstable but unstable currently only has 3.4.1 (in an alt. repo) |
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| 21:43.28 | jdhutchin1 | drac, talking about whatever alsa does with its mixer controls |
| 21:43.35 | SerajewelKS | greycat, put "only" somewhere in my sentence |
| 21:43.42 | jdhutchin1 | Quinn_Storm, if you're new to debian, use testing |
| 21:43.42 | Quinn_Storm | I pretty much always run unstable or at least testing |
| 21:43.49 | Quinn_Storm | jdhutchin1: I've been running debian for years |
| 21:43.54 | pygrammer | anyone? |
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| 21:43.57 | Eulex | pygrammer, the intel-8x0 sound driver doesn't do hardware mixing of pcm streams |
| 21:44.08 | pygrammer | ok, so i should use esd or like? |
| 21:44.10 | jdhutchin1 | pygrammer, yeah, esd, arts, there are a couple different daemons to do it |
| 21:44.12 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: oh, fine. then you'll be okay. be aware than unstable is a little broken at the moment. |
| 21:44.15 | pygrammer | ko |
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| 21:44.17 | pygrammer | *ok |
| 21:44.19 | SerajewelKS | IMHO all sound daemons suck |
| 21:44.21 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: broken in any particular way? |
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| 21:44.24 | greycat | Eulex: then... what is ALSA's supposed advantage? |
| 21:44.26 | SerajewelKS | too much latency |
| 21:44.28 | drac | pygrammer: dmix is an option too.. |
| 21:44.30 | pygrammer | SerajewelKS: suggest an alternative |
| 21:44.31 | Eulex | pygrammer, check out dmix |
| 21:44.35 | antgel | jdhutchin1: why would you advise a newbie to use anything other than stable? |
| 21:44.36 | greycat | pygrammer: buy an emu10k1 card |
| 21:44.40 | SerajewelKS | pygrammer, the dmix ALSA plugin |
| 21:44.48 | pygrammer | meh |
| 21:44.51 | pygrammer | SerajewelKS: ok |
| 21:44.58 | jdhutchin1 | antgel, testing works pretty well, I've never had it break on me, and is more up-to-date |
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| 21:45.09 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: gcc4 migration. big mess |
| 21:45.31 | FieldySnuts | very big mess |
| 21:45.35 | pygrammer | dmix isn't in the apt repos ... |
| 21:45.41 | abrotman | flaming bag of poo mess |
| 21:45.41 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: yeah thats the reason given kde 3.4.2 isn't up yet |
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| 21:45.47 | antgel | jdhutchin1: the fact that it has never broken on you is no reason to recommend it to a newbie. unless you want to help them when he comes in here with problems |
| 21:46.04 | valdyn | pygrammer: dmix is a feature of alsa |
| 21:46.15 | SerajewelKS | !dmix |
| 21:46.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 21:46.16 | pygrammer | valdyn: so what do i need to use it? |
| 21:46.18 | jdhutchin1 | antgel, how often have you had problems with testing? and if they're on stable, after a few months, they'll get mad that there's no updated versions |
| 21:46.23 | valdyn | pygrammer: alsa |
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| 21:46.31 | pygrammer | yeah, alsa.opensrc.org is own |
| 21:46.32 | pygrammer | *down |
| 21:46.39 | valdyn | !alsa |
| 21:46.39 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 21:46.56 | antgel | jdhutchin1: not if they understand what they are getting into. i have never had problems with testing as i have never seen the point of running it. |
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| 21:47.37 | yang | Is there a linux application that allows chatting with MSN and yahoo protocols? |
| 21:47.41 | pygrammer | what is alsa-oss and alsaplayer? |
| 21:47.41 | jdhutchin1 | yang, gaim |
| 21:47.46 | abrotman | antgel: you've never seen the joke where you crap in a paper bag and light it on fire after placing it on someones porch .. then they come out .. and stomp out the fire? |
| 21:47.59 | Eulex | pygrammer, apt-cache show whatever |
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| 21:48.06 | antgel | abrotman: no, but i can't wait to try it out! |
| 21:48.12 | yang | jdhutchin1: you only now about gaim? |
| 21:48.13 | Quinn_Storm | gah it seems there is no good distro right now...arch is doing goofy things and mostly out of date (only included here b/c someone recommended it so I tried it)...debian is in the middle of a mass migration...gentoo is too much of a time-sink...ubuntu has goofy patches and missing features...(not sure about debian, is the debian k3b ok? ubuntu's is missing libmad support)...this is frustrating |
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| 21:48.29 | pygrammer | ah :) |
| 21:48.31 | Eulex | yang, centericq |
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| 21:48.36 | abrotman | yang: there are some for kde also .. |
| 21:48.40 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: why not install debian stable and upgrade to unstable when it's more settled? |
| 21:48.47 | yang | abrotman: yes, that would be nice |
| 21:48.58 | valdyn | Quinn_Storm: why do you want to use the unstable debian ( which is the one doing 'mass migration' ? |
| 21:49.00 | abrotman | yang: let me find a KDE person for you .. i won't touch that trash :) |
| 21:49.03 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: I want a desktop with kde 3.4.2 right now...or 3.4.1 at the worst. |
| 21:49.11 | Quinn_Storm | valdyn: same reason I just mentioned to antgel |
| 21:49.24 | Eulex | Quinn_Storm, unstable is like that. stable and testing ain't |
| 21:49.28 | abrotman | yang: kopete .. but gaim is usually better ... |
| 21:49.35 | valdyn | Quinn_Storm: have you looked at backports.org for it? |
| 21:49.35 | abrotman | !tell yang about search |
| 21:49.36 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i can't work you out. you seem to know your stuff, yet you want to use kde. :P |
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| 21:49.47 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: yeah, gnome sucks :P |
| 21:49.48 | antgel | what valdyn said |
| 21:49.51 | yang | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:50.01 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: it's just KDE .. it could be worse ... you could be using windows |
| 21:50.04 | marc | I can't get artwiz fonts working with fluxbox, however they do work in other applications (terminals,torsmo). I am using Sid with fluxbox 0.9.13 any ideas? |
| 21:50.14 | Quinn_Storm | lol, I do rdesktop to windows to do windows builds of stuff I develop |
| 21:50.27 | abrotman | and there proves my point |
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| 21:50.44 | Quinn_Storm | well some users still use windows |
| 21:50.47 | joefso3 | What ever happend to: task-c++-dev, task-c-dev, task-debug, task-devel-common, and task-objc-dev? |
| 21:50.48 | Quinn_Storm | so I have to keep a mingw env together |
| 21:50.58 | Quinn_Storm | anyhow, no backports doesn't have any kde stuff |
| 21:50.58 | antgel | spare the smites etc, but anyone got a ballpark guess for the gcc4 transistion to be in a state where unstable users can upgrade without shitting their pants? |
| 21:51.00 | greycat | !task |
| 21:51.03 | abrotman | joefso3: build-essential |
| 21:51.03 | greycat | !tasks |
| 21:51.03 | dpkg | tasks are changing. "apt-get install task-FOOBAR" won't work any more. The new tasksel is going to grep for "Task:" in package headers instead. see <http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=355> |
| 21:51.07 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: www.apt-get.org? |
| 21:51.09 | valdyn | !kde 3.4 |
| 21:51.09 | dpkg | kde 3.4 is probably not packaged yet, or ask me about kde3.4 |
| 21:51.15 | valdyn | !kde3.4 |
| 21:51.15 | dpkg | kde3.4 is probably being packaged, or see http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34, or not supported on Debian channels, *particularly* not #debian |
| 21:51.24 | pygrammer | jeez, configuring dmix is complicated |
| 21:51.28 | Eulex | Quinn_Storm, why do you need to newest kde? |
| 21:51.39 | Quinn_Storm | Eulex: well b/c its full of features I use every day |
| 21:51.49 | Quinn_Storm | I used to run kde svn while I was on gentoo |
| 21:51.56 | Quinn_Storm | but I got tired of waiting forever for compiles |
| 21:52.04 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: like clicking the mouse? :) |
| 21:52.21 | abrotman | says the guy who uses E17 |
| 21:52.26 | Gnea | damn straight |
| 21:52.29 | Gnea | oh |
| 21:52.32 | Gnea | speaking of which |
| 21:52.41 | Gnea | http://gnea.net/debian_e17_install2cvs.sh |
| 21:52.43 | Gnea | ^^ updated |
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| 21:52.47 | abrotman | Gnea: yeah .. how much longer for that release anyways? |
| 21:52.53 | Quinn_Storm | eww E17...at least KDE has some technology :-P |
| 21:53.01 | abrotman | oh god |
| 21:53.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 490] by debhelper |
| 21:53.01 | LordMyren | Buddy is a TM of AOL. You have GOT to be kidding |
| 21:53.06 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: don't even try that one |
| 21:53.08 | LordMyren | Quinn_Storm: shut up, /right now/ |
| 21:53.18 | greycat | !start a wm war |
| 21:53.18 | dpkg | fluxbox makes me vomit! |
| 21:53.20 | Eulex | Quinn_Storm, your only bet is to find unofficial packages or compile it youself |
| 21:53.24 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: we all know Qt/KDE sucks .. you can stop pretending now :) |
| 21:53.28 | LordMyren | there is no war, E17 is ascendant |
| 21:53.37 | Quinn_Storm | Eulex: well there are semi-official packages for KDE 3.4.1 and I'll just use those on testing I guess |
| 21:53.38 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: 'technology'? |
| 21:53.46 | Quinn_Storm | yeah, dcop, kparts, kiosaves, etc. |
| 21:53.48 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: define that now please. |
| 21:53.50 | lunitik | wow... kde isn't allowed to be discussed? (or just the release going in right now?) |
| 21:53.50 | beardy | Quinn_Storm: Name one function that is in the version you can't run, and isn't in the version you can run? |
| 21:53.57 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 21:54.00 | Quinn_Storm | lunitik: kde 3.4.x isn't supported yet thats all |
| 21:54.03 | abrotman | lunitik: where? |
| 21:54.04 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: you have no idea. |
| 21:54.09 | antgel | can we take it to #bloatware? :P |
| 21:54.12 | Quinn_Storm | beardy: well one big thing is split taskbars per screen in xinerama |
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| 21:54.20 | LordMyren | antgel: word |
| 21:54.21 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: ok... makes more sense :) |
| 21:54.21 | Quinn_Storm | gnome consistently uses more ram and cpu than kde |
| 21:54.29 | abrotman | antgel: too crowded .. emacs crowd is there |
| 21:54.29 | streuner | uh |
| 21:54.30 | lunitik | antgel: gnome users going there too? |
| 21:54.32 | cbr | kde 3.4.2 is in sid |
| 21:54.39 | Quinn_Storm | cbr: not last I checked |
| 21:54.39 | streuner | !start a WM war |
| 21:54.40 | dpkg | emacs bites! |
| 21:54.43 | lunitik | cbr: part of* |
| 21:54.46 | antgel | i hate all this. people got on just fine before taskbars, let alone split taskbars |
| 21:54.46 | Quinn_Storm | ah |
| 21:54.48 | cbr | Quinn_Storm: i'm on it now |
| 21:54.51 | abrotman | !info konqueror sid |
| 21:54.52 | Quinn_Storm | cbr: ok, cool |
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| 21:54.53 | cbr | the main libs are in |
| 21:54.54 | antgel | emacs? |
| 21:54.54 | cbr | not all apps |
| 21:54.55 | dpkg | konqueror: (KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer), section web, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1962 kB, Installed size: 4587 kB |
| 21:54.57 | abrotman | yay |
| 21:54.58 | LordMyren | arguing gnome v. kde is like arguing cadillac v. lincoln. they're both boats. |
| 21:54.59 | Quinn_Storm | cbr: then I will flip to debian sid! |
| 21:55.09 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: and then cry when it doesn't install :) |
| 21:55.15 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: i bet you haven't written a single line of code for kde. |
| 21:55.20 | Quinn_Storm | Gnea: wrong |
| 21:55.21 | streuner | Quinn_Storm: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 21:55.26 | antgel | _her?_ |
| 21:55.32 | asg | LordMyren: haha |
| 21:55.37 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: yeah? where? |
| 21:55.37 | streuner | antgel: it exists ;-) |
| 21:55.41 | pygrammer | hmmm |
| 21:55.45 | greycat | Gnea: I haven't written any KDE code either. |
| 21:55.46 | SerajewelKS | antgel, yes, woman can be geeks too.. oddly enough |
| 21:55.46 | pygrammer | when i try alsaplayer: Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults. |
| 21:55.49 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: i bet still you haven't looked at the code for E17, must less run it. |
| 21:55.53 | Quinn_Storm | Gnea: I've only written like 100 but I have written some, an app to send dcop calls to amarok from joystick events, and I patched kopete to add aimhtml sending |
| 21:55.54 | SerajewelKS | a/woman/women |
| 21:55.56 | greycat | Gnea: neither have I! |
| 21:55.58 | greycat | !win me |
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| 21:55.59 | dpkg | Congratulations, greycat! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 21:56.04 | SerajewelKS | s/a\//s\// |
| 21:56.08 | antgel | i knew that if i stayed on irc on a saturday night that good things would happen in my social life :) |
| 21:56.12 | Gnea | greycat: heh |
| 21:56.34 | abrotman | antgel: strippers at 9pm! |
| 21:56.43 | Quinn_Storm | I also proposed some other kopete patches (my goodness is that an ungodly mess of code) but they went another direction |
| 21:56.54 | streuner | antgel: well, there are better things to do too ... ;-) |
| 21:56.57 | pygrammer | when i try alsaplayer: Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults. .. what does that mean? |
| 21:56.59 | Quinn_Storm | however since you are so adamant about it I will give E17 a chance |
| 21:57.03 | pygrammer | alsa is all installed and everything |
| 21:57.05 | antgel | abrotman: i'm gmt+1, what's that here ;) |
| 21:57.06 | pygrammer | i can even use it with xmms |
| 21:57.08 | Gnea | oh wow |
| 21:57.21 | Quinn_Storm | anyhow, before I stick the install disc in, time to back up $HOME |
| 21:57.21 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: yeah, it's always best to actually KNOW what you're talking about before opening your mouth. |
| 21:57.24 | abrotman | antgel: sounds like france .. sorry |
| 21:57.24 | TwistedEmotions | I wrote Windows... line for line... Windows 2000 that is... XP was not my doing ;;P |
| 21:57.37 | antgel | abrotman: actually uk, but on summer time |
| 21:57.49 | joefso3 | greycat: why on earth did they remove such a good thing, I can't understand, do you? |
| 21:58.01 | greycat | joefso3: which thing? |
| 21:58.06 | abrotman | Gnea: so .. i heard kde is a big pile of flaming poo! |
| 21:58.17 | joefso3 | greycat: the task- ... |
| 21:58.20 | Quinn_Storm | sorry I just never liked what enlightenment was looking like in descriptions and screenshots |
| 21:58.23 | Gnea | abrotman: well, it models windows so well |
| 21:58.25 | Quinn_Storm | I should have said earlier I'd never tried it |
| 21:58.26 | greycat | joefso3: see the debianplanet article if it still exists |
| 21:58.28 | SerajewelKS | i heard linux sucks. good thing i don't believe everything i hear, like some people. |
| 21:58.32 | abrotman | Gnea: that about sums it up :) |
| 21:58.41 | antgel | abrotman: ever played the joke where you put a kubuntu cd in a paper bag and... ah, forget it |
| 21:58.43 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: you judge based on screenshots and not performance and actual usability? |
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| 21:58.51 | Gnea | abrotman: indeed :) |
| 21:58.52 | greycat | Gnea: usability? what's that? ;-) |
| 21:58.54 | abrotman | antgel: why in gods name would you waste a CD like that |
| 21:58.56 | asg | antgel: ...put it in the microwave? |
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| 21:58.59 | Quinn_Storm | well as I said I will give it a shot |
| 21:59.01 | Gnea | greycat: rofl |
| 21:59.11 | bumblefsck | can someone help me with a liilo problem? |
| 21:59.14 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: please do, i will welcome your comments then. |
| 21:59.17 | bumblefsck | i mean lilo? |
| 21:59.17 | antgel | that's how kde people work, but mac os people are worse. |
| 21:59.20 | greycat | !ask |
| 21:59.20 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask a question, or ask if people use something. Your question is being answered by a volunteer; make it easy for volunteers to give you an answer. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 21:59.23 | Gnea | !tell bumblefsck about ask |
| 21:59.28 | TwistedEmotions | !tell |
| 21:59.29 | antgel | bumblefsck: as soon as we've worked out which wm is the best |
| 21:59.32 | Quinn_Storm | hey at least I tried gnome, xfce, fluxbox, etc. |
| 21:59.33 | beardy | bumblefsck: Just ask, try to be specific. |
| 21:59.33 | TwistedEmotions | weee |
| 21:59.36 | Quinn_Storm | I just haven't gotten around to E17 |
| 21:59.54 | abrotman | i tried KDE whichever is in sarge .. still a big bloated pile of wanna-be-windows-ware |
| 22:00.06 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: aaah |
| 22:00.09 | TwistedEmotions | abrotman: amen. |
| 22:00.29 | antgel | i once had a mac customer tell me that he liked os x because of it's 3d spinning logon screen or some crap like that. |
| 22:00.36 | streuner | abrotman: modern DE's looks like windows |
| 22:00.36 | EmleyMoor | I use icewm - just because I gradually fell out with most other "easy to handle but not OTT" window managers |
| 22:00.38 | Quinn_Storm | xfce is fairly nice but not complete...gnome is bloated and nowhere near as integrated as kde...fluxbox is great for what it is but I need a bit more... |
| 22:00.42 | bumblefsck | trying to upgrade my kernel, I can't upgrade lilo because it complains about the bootsector. I'll get the exact error msg... |
| 22:00.46 | abrotman | streuner: define mondern |
| 22:00.49 | abrotman | modern too |
| 22:00.50 | LordMyren | e17 is sex |
| 22:01.02 | asg | LordMyren: bad sloppy sex |
| 22:01.03 | streuner | abrotman: GNOME _and_ KDE |
| 22:01.14 | antgel | i don't understand. if people used proper tools they wouldn't need flash window managers. :P |
| 22:01.17 | bumblefsck | arning: LBA32 addressing assumed |
| 22:01.17 | bumblefsck | Warning: COMPACT may conflict with LBA32 on some systems |
| 22:01.17 | bumblefsck | Fatal: First boot sector is version 20.0. Expecting version 22.2. |
| 22:01.17 | bumblefsck | sonia:/home/karbon# |
| 22:01.18 | Gnea | heart pounding bed shaking sex |
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| 22:01.19 | abrotman | streuner: xfce4 isn't modern? nor *box? |
| 22:01.20 | LordMyren | asg: you forgot fast |
| 22:01.24 | Quinn_Storm | I admit I spend half my time in a konsole |
| 22:01.25 | TwistedEmotions | hahahhaha |
| 22:01.30 | streuner | abrotman: dunno... |
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| 22:01.33 | abrotman | Gnea: what do you know about that? |
| 22:01.43 | abrotman | streuner: or E17 for that matter |
| 22:01.44 | LordMyren | wow, what a long list of recommendations for e17 |
| 22:01.44 | TwistedEmotions | poor basterd gets hounded for asking a questions then pastes himself to death. |
| 22:01.44 | EmleyMoor | I wouldn't use a window manager that has a name the same as the postcode for Walthamstow |
| 22:01.46 | Quinn_Storm | xfce4 is pretty modern and semi-windowsish...*box is modern but not much of a DE...(and with bblean it -is- windowsish :-P) |
| 22:01.51 | Gnea | abrotman: hush you |
| 22:01.55 | bumblefsck | oops. sorry. thats 0 for 2 for me tongiht. |
| 22:01.56 | abrotman | Gnea: for modern |
| 22:01.56 | asg | LordMyren: fvwm is fast, twm is fast, ion is fast ... |
| 22:02.03 | antgel | EmleyMoor: london? |
| 22:02.04 | beardy | !tell bumblefsck abotu paster |
| 22:02.06 | Quinn_Storm | fvwm -is- fast |
| 22:02.11 | beardy | !tell bumblefsck about paster |
| 22:02.11 | LordMyren | yeah, but i wouldnt do them with a bag over my head and in the dark |
| 22:02.12 | EmleyMoor | antgel: Yes |
| 22:02.13 | asg | LordMyren: but hey, if it works for you ... have at it. |
| 22:02.17 | Quinn_Storm | it was usable on a box with 32MB ram when its 128MB card blew |
| 22:02.22 | antgel | EmleyMoor: i'm in nw4 atm but live in e1. :) |
| 22:02.23 | Quinn_Storm | err not fvwm |
| 22:02.24 | Quinn_Storm | I meant xfce |
| 22:02.25 | Quinn_Storm | lol |
| 22:02.26 | TwistedEmotions | clear |
| 22:02.28 | LordMyren | ion is cute but i like overlapping |
| 22:02.29 | Quinn_Storm | of course fvwm would be |
| 22:02.30 | EmleyMoor | I live in NW9 |
| 22:02.31 | Gnea | Quinn_Storm: please keep in mind also that E17 is still in development |
| 22:02.31 | TwistedEmotions | er.. |
| 22:02.34 | Quinn_Storm | Gnea: of course |
| 22:02.38 | greycat | I've used fvwm on a 486 with 12 MB before. |
| 22:02.41 | Gnea | good deal |
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| 22:02.45 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: are you going to try E17? |
| 22:02.46 | Quinn_Storm | greycat: as have I |
| 22:02.51 | Quinn_Storm | abrotman: once I get debian installed yes |
| 22:02.52 | antgel | EmleyMoor: great, lets go to the pub, doh it's closed |
| 22:02.54 | Gnea | abrotman: she said she will |
| 22:02.57 | LordMyren | yeah, well, once thats all there was greycat |
| 22:02.58 | Quinn_Storm | but I have to get off of IRC first :-P |
| 22:03.00 | greycat | of course you can't even *install* sarge on 12 MB... |
| 22:03.01 | EmleyMoor | I'm miles away tonight anyway |
| 22:03.07 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: that could take all night |
| 22:03.07 | EmleyMoor | (CV4) |
| 22:03.11 | Quinn_Storm | lofl |
| 22:03.12 | asg | antgel: well, get a curry then, should still be open |
| 22:03.15 | Quinn_Storm | not if I just /quit! |
| 22:03.17 | LordMyren | just about everything has gotten severly bloated in the past 10 years |
| 22:03.20 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 22:03.24 | Gnea | that's funny |
| 22:03.29 | antgel | EmleyMoor: hmm, a test. colchester? fuck knows. |
| 22:03.31 | abrotman | LordMyren: not really .. |
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| 22:03.40 | abrotman | LordMyren: some stuff hasn't really changed in 10 years :) |
| 22:03.43 | EmleyMoor | antgel: Coventry - so nobody is talking to me |
| 22:03.44 | obscuresoul | does anybody knows how to add modules to initrd? |
| 22:03.48 | TwistedEmotions | LordMyren: your telling me ... you should see pictures of my GF ;P |
| 22:03.58 | LordMyren | abrotman: well, yeah, fwvm, twm,... pretty static. also pretty ugly imo |
| 22:03.59 | antgel | EmleyMoor: jesus. concrete jungle. |
| 22:04.04 | bumblefsck | what is paster? how do I ask the bot a question directly? is dpkg the bot? |
| 22:04.13 | antgel | !curry antgel |
| 22:04.14 | streuner | !paster |
| 22:04.14 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 22:04.16 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: low blow. |
| 22:04.19 | abrotman | LordMyren: you didn't even mention olwm |
| 22:04.20 | abrotman | :) |
| 22:04.25 | asg | obscuresoul: put them in /lib/modules/<kernel>/initrd |
| 22:04.34 | antgel | will someone fix that bot to give me a chicken madras? |
| 22:04.41 | greycat | beardy: you really need a better hobby. |
| 22:04.41 | abrotman | !feed antgel |
| 22:04.43 | TwistedEmotions | greycat: that's where I have to aim... it all sags. |
| 22:04.45 | beardy | bumblefsck: /msg dpkg foo |
| 22:04.50 | asg | !give antgel a vindaloo |
| 22:04.51 | dpkg | give antgel a vindaloo |
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| 22:04.53 | LordMyren | how do you alter a dpkg trigger? |
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| 22:05.03 | moparfan90 | hello |
| 22:05.05 | antgel | EmleyMoor: student? |
| 22:05.17 | LordMyren | i wanted to do dpkg msg but it doesnt actually have useful info on how to msg dpkg |
| 22:05.27 | abrotman | !msg |
| 22:05.27 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 22:05.32 | greycat | !/msg |
| 22:05.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, /msg is something you type into your IRC client to send a private message, usually to me, dpkg, a bot. /msg dpkg foo gives the same results as !tell me about foo. |
| 22:05.34 | EmleyMoor | antgel: No - computer engineer who just happens to have a friend here |
| 22:05.38 | obscuresoul | asg, that directory does not exist, should i create it? |
| 22:05.40 | moparfan90 | many people here say debian is better then ubuntu. can you tell me how it is.. i am going to install on soon |
| 22:05.43 | beardy | greycat: heh |
| 22:06.01 | asg | obscuresoul: yes |
| 22:06.02 | antgel | moparfan90: install ubuntu |
| 22:06.03 | greycat | moparfan90: try it yourself. |
| 22:06.07 | zinx | moparfan90: there is no 'better' |
| 22:06.11 | dondelelcaro | !better |
| 22:06.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 22:06.15 | Gnea | moparfan90: ubuntu is based on debian - debian is the original - and you will find no ubuntu support here, only in #ubuntu |
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| 22:06.27 | jtan325 | hi. how do you do a cvs diff between the most recent previous version, and current version, without knowing the actual version numbers? is this even possible? |
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| 22:06.40 | dondelelcaro | jtan325: cvs rdiff -t |
| 22:06.41 | zinx | moparfar90: we just can't provide support for ubuntu in here (because it's different from debian) |
| 22:06.45 | TwistedEmotions | antgel: what kinda help is that... install ubuntu... might as well tell them to go with windows. |
| 22:06.46 | jtan325 | thanks |
| 22:06.47 | LordMyren | moparfan90: i like debianb ecause it has regular updates instead of 6 month releases. i also run some ubuntu pacakges. when xorg was in ubuntu, it ran fine in debian for example |
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| 22:06.50 | antgel | EmleyMoor: aha. my only reasons for ever going to coventry were football and my student days. |
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| 22:06.58 | dondelelcaro | jtan325: or diff if you want the local repository |
| 22:07.02 | rustybucket | Is unbutu any good for Ham Radio AX.25 apps? |
| 22:07.05 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: i know, i kind of regret it, but what a question. |
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| 22:07.23 | dondelelcaro | rustybucket: if you're happy with Debian, there's little reason to switch |
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| 22:07.36 | RvGaTe | yo yo yo :D |
| 22:07.50 | RvGaTe | is there a game for debian simular to http://www.ballance.org/game.htm ?? :) |
| 22:07.53 | jtan325 | well dondelelcaro, actually this is on the cvs server itself |
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| 22:07.57 | TwistedEmotions | Ham Radios have OS's? The advances.. |
| 22:08.07 | dondelelcaro | jtan325: doesn't matter; you use -d and rdiff there too |
| 22:08.07 | bumblefsck | here's the error from lilo: http://channels.debian.net/paste/587 |
| 22:08.12 | jtan325 | right |
| 22:08.15 | abrotman | RvGaTe: kind of |
| 22:08.15 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: rofl at a ham radio joke. i must be tired |
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| 22:08.27 | TwistedEmotions | RvGaTe: yeah... apt-cache search rolling balls |
| 22:08.34 | Quinn_Storm | I just remembered I had other computers :-P |
| 22:08.41 | abrotman | RvGaTe: http://packages.debian.org/stable/games/ |
| 22:09.01 | dondelelcaro | sounds almost like marble madness |
| 22:09.13 | Quinn_Storm | hmm what game? I liked marble madness |
| 22:09.14 | antgel | EmleyMoor: what sort of engineer, just out of interest? |
| 22:09.18 | bumblefsck | my question is: how do I upgrade the boot sector on the hard drive? |
| 22:09.32 | obscuresoul | asg, but i read somewhere that /dev/initrd is the initial ram disk and is this device that is loaded on the boot system! so /lib/modules/kernel/initrd shall be a pointer to this device? |
| 22:09.40 | greycat | bumblefsck: rerun lilo, or see /usr/share/doc/grub/README* |
| 22:09.41 | EmleyMoor | antgel: Communications, but I also do system builds and network wiring "on the side" |
| 22:09.46 | antgel | bumblefsck: you could have pasted more. lilo.conf and full output when you run lilo -v |
| 22:09.49 | jtan325 | dondelelcaro, so rdiff -t does it between the last commit and the current version? |
| 22:09.59 | jtan325 | dondelelcaro, i mean, second-to-last-commit |
| 22:10.09 | dondelelcaro | jtan325: yes; man cvs; |
| 22:10.10 | antgel | EmleyMoor: interesting. work for self? |
| 22:10.15 | asg | obscuresoul: no, putting modules in /lib/modules/<kernel>/initrd will cause them to be included when you mkinitrd. |
| 22:10.19 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: yu're not getting very far |
| 22:10.30 | EmleyMoor | Have a formal job with a company - could probably do well if I did work for myself though |
| 22:10.32 | greycat | dondelelcaro: "man cvs" is a horrible, horrible punishment to inflict. |
| 22:10.34 | Quinn_Storm | abrotman: hmm? |
| 22:10.39 | dondelelcaro | greycat: not in this case |
| 22:10.57 | abrotman | don't ask me! |
| 22:11.02 | dondelelcaro | "-t A diff of the top two revisions is sent to the standard output device. This is most useful for seeing what the last change to a file was." |
| 22:11.03 | antgel | EmleyMoor: we're small but slowly growing. www.wayforth.co.uk. give us a shout if you fancy a change. |
| 22:11.07 | Quinn_Storm | abrotman: I'm rebooting into the debian install already, irc-ing from my router |
| 22:11.11 | greycat | the only thing worse than the cvs(1) man page is the cvs(1) command syntax that it attempts (and fails) to document |
| 22:11.22 | moparfan90 | so debian and ubuntu are about the same ?? does any one know a distro thats better? |
| 22:11.23 | antgel | everyone else, please don't tell me how bad our site is etc, i get enough stick :) |
| 22:11.30 | bumblefsck | greycat: I tried to run lilo, and that's the error I get. All my other boxen use grub. |
| 22:11.36 | antgel | moparfan90: your questions are below the radar of sense |
| 22:11.40 | obscuresoul | asg, and when i run mkinitrd will be created only a image of that directory? |
| 22:11.44 | asg | moparfan90: there's Debian and OpenBSD. Everything else is crap. |
| 22:11.46 | EmleyMoor | moparfan90: I don't think anything is better than Debian, but that's just me |
| 22:11.50 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: ah .. ok |
| 22:11.52 | greycat | bumblefsck: so use GRUB then. |
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| 22:12.06 | greycat | asg: I've heard freebsd is ok |
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| 22:12.15 | abrotman | EmleyMoor: how much is a litre of petrol for you right now ? |
| 22:12.24 | moparfan90 | can i have a link to the open bsd site...pleaae |
| 22:12.28 | antgel | bumblefsck: are you gonna paste proper stuff or not |
| 22:12.29 | asg | obscuresoul: it will include the extra modules in there. If you only want standard kernel modules in your initrd, put modules=all in your /etc/mkinitrd/* config. |
| 22:12.35 | antgel | !googlesmite moparfan90 |
| 22:12.37 | ThePiratemaster | has anyone found the amd64 net-inst images for etch yet O_O? |
| 22:12.49 | asg | greycat: well, 5.x is flaky. 4.x was fine. I have hopes for 6.x though. |
| 22:12.52 | abrotman | !tell ThePiratemaster about amd64 |
| 22:12.54 | dondelelcaro | ThePiratemaster: you don't need them. Use the sarge netinst, and have it install etch. |
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| 22:13.14 | greycat | moparfan90: if you can't find the openbsd web site, you can't run it. |
| 22:13.22 | greycat | moparfan90: seriously. it's part of the IQ test. |
| 22:13.26 | Quinn_Storm | lofl |
| 22:13.31 | lavish | lol |
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| 22:13.33 | asg | it is, that isn't a joke |
| 22:13.44 | Eulex | yeah, if you can't use a computer, you can't install an os |
| 22:13.44 | _ray | how can i enable power save? |
| 22:13.47 | abrotman | !be a google barbie |
| 22:13.48 | dpkg | Aww, google is hard! Let's go shopping, abrotman |
| 22:14.00 | ThePiratemaster | ok, the normal netinst or the amd64 (unoffician) net0inst or doesnt this matter? |
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| 22:14.05 | _ray | installing sarge is easy |
| 22:14.06 | asg | abrotman: oooh, can we buy 'Hello Kitty' stuff? |
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| 22:14.13 | abrotman | !hello kitty |
| 22:14.13 | dpkg | it has been said that hello kitty is a popular product made by sanrio, inc. see http://www.sanrio.com |
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| 22:14.19 | Eulex | ThePiratemaster, does matter. amd64 netinst. |
| 22:14.22 | bumblefsck | antgel: I'lll probably just switch to grub. I tried to apt-get grub, but when I reboot it still seems to use lilo. |
| 22:14.23 | abrotman | asg: oh .. i didn't put that factoid in .... |
| 22:14.23 | greycat | smells like a spambot... |
| 22:14.31 | asg | abrotman: kismet |
| 22:14.47 | antgel | bumblefsck: rtfm! /usr/share/doc/grub (i think) |
| 22:14.54 | greycat | antgel: yes |
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| 22:15.03 | greycat | the README.Debian file tells you what to do |
| 22:15.06 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 22:15.06 | _ray | anybody here using the 686-smp kernel? |
| 22:15.15 | ThePiratemaster | tnx |
| 22:15.16 | Eulex | !anyone |
| 22:15.16 | antgel | _ray: i am... not |
| 22:15.16 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 22:15.26 | beardy | bumblefsck: Perhaps you have to run a version of lilo that is between the conflicting ones, and then run the latest lilo after that. Or use grub instead, as been said. |
| 22:15.28 | ThePiratemaster | lkaters |
| 22:15.32 | obscuresoul | asg, so what's the function of /dev/initrd? do you know a tutorial about this? |
| 22:15.33 | abrotman | _ray: not on a machine at this location .. but yes .. why? |
| 22:15.40 | lavish | ehya guy, I'm a debian n00b, (not linux n00b)... I seriously need help. I've just run a "# apt-get -f install" and everything is fine (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.). But if I try to install gaim, this is what I get: " gaim: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but 1.8.0-4 is to be installed; E: Broken packages" . Can anyone help me? |
| 22:15.50 | lavish | s/guy/guys |
| 22:15.54 | abrotman | lavish: are you on sid? |
| 22:15.56 | _ray | abrotman: did you have trouble with power save? |
| 22:15.56 | antgel | lavish: stable? |
| 22:16.04 | EmleyMoor | lavish: sarge, etch, sid?# |
| 22:16.07 | abrotman | _ray: it's a server .. nfc |
| 22:16.11 | atom_z | i got sound working via ALSA, and kde makes a sound on startup (hence how I know it works)... however ksCD still has no sound output... how can i fix this? |
| 22:16.18 | Eulex | lavish, apt-get -f is very risky |
| 22:16.19 | _ray | abrotman: ahh i see |
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| 22:16.31 | lavish | abrotman, antgel nope... I'm on demudi (www.agnula.org), it's like a sarge but with different packages |
| 22:16.38 | antgel | !not debian |
| 22:16.38 | dpkg | Knoppix isn't, Ubuntu isn't, Libranet isn't, Morphix isn't, lnx-bbc isn't, *your* installation you have right now ISN'T.... see if there is a channel available relevant to your distribution, if not, tough. Your questions do not belong here! |
| 22:16.39 | Eulex | !not debian |
| 22:16.58 | _ray | my monitor does not want to shut off.....with the kde power save options |
| 22:17.06 | greycat | press the button |
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| 22:17.12 | beardy | _ray: push the button |
| 22:17.18 | antgel | pull the plug |
| 22:17.22 | lavish | abrotman, antgel ok, I know, but I thought it was a general apt-get problem (due to my ignorance) |
| 22:17.22 | Quinn_Storm | _ray: sounds like dpms isn't enabled in your xorg.conf |
| 22:17.25 | _ray | beardy: could do that |
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| 22:17.39 | _ray | Quinn_Storm: im still using xfree86 |
| 22:17.50 | Quinn_Storm | _ray: needs to be a Option "DPMS" "enable" in the XFree86Config-4 or xorg.conf |
| 22:17.54 | Quinn_Storm | _ray: under Monitor |
| 22:17.56 | Quinn_Storm | I believe |
| 22:17.58 | Quinn_Storm | maybe Display |
| 22:18.08 | abrotman | !dpms |
| 22:18.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dpms is know as VESA Power Saving or Energy Star. In X4.0.X add Option "DPMS" "on" to config monitor setting. After that it can be configured by using 'xset dpms <standby-sec> <suspend-sec> <off-sec>' or config file options (ServerFlag section). |
| 22:18.14 | greycat | Section "Monitor" |
| 22:18.19 | abrotman | Option "DPMS" "Off" if you don't want it |
| 22:18.32 | EmleyMoor | Defaults are 10, 20, 30 mins |
| 22:18.34 | _ray | thanks guys |
| 22:18.39 | Quinn_Storm | yeah I usually leave it off, I like to see my monitors ;) |
| 22:18.49 | Quinn_Storm | besides in a dark room that monitor light is good for avoiding tripping on shit |
| 22:18.59 | Quinn_Storm | or stepping on the kitten |
| 22:19.01 | _ray | anybody know where the xfree86.conf file is? |
| 22:19.06 | greycat | _ray: /etc/X11/ |
| 22:19.11 | drac | Quinn_Storm: You don't clean much, do you? :) |
| 22:19.13 | Quinn_Storm | _ray: /etc/X11/Xf86Config-4 |
| 22:19.13 | greycat | and you have to spell the name right. |
| 22:19.21 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: put it on your monitor |
| 22:19.21 | Quinn_Storm | drac: oh I clean enough but I also live :-P |
| 22:19.23 | greycat | Quinn_Storm: s/f/F/ |
| 22:19.35 | drac | Quinn_Storm: hehe, right :) |
| 22:19.37 | Eulex | _ray, no such file -- you mean XF86Config-4, which is in /etc/X11 |
| 22:20.09 | beardy | ..so use tab completion, editor /etc/X11/XF8<TAB> |
| 22:20.17 | greycat | you're the first person to spell it right though :) |
| 22:20.23 | Quinn_Storm | hmm looks like I need to add testing to my apt sources too (figured as much) and maybe that other kde site...b/c otherwise kde won't install |
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| 22:20.46 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: you know what to do |
| 22:21.01 | Quinn_Storm | I meant to type XF86Config-4 but I hate this laptop keyboard (my router is a display and battery-less "laptop") |
| 22:21.14 | greycat | I'd want a battery for it. |
| 22:21.30 | greycat | my router's an opensbd box in the basement on a UPS |
| 22:21.34 | antgel | going back to bsd, i had a "moment" last week and thought it might be good to try it, then found out more, and hated the idea. so it's "real unix". bfd. |
| 22:21.35 | asg | Quinn_Storm: at least when you mash your shift key 5 times, you don't get a popup like you do on Windows. |
| 22:21.39 | _ray | so.........."DMPS" "ON" |
| 22:21.42 | EmleyMoor | A router with a built-in UPS - cool! |
| 22:21.42 | Quinn_Storm | lol |
| 22:21.49 | greycat | _ray: spelling. it's, like, important and shit. |
| 22:21.56 | Caelum | my router is a WRT54G running Sveasoft |
| 22:22.00 | Quinn_Storm | greycat: if I could afford one I'd have one...its hand-me-down hardware |
| 22:22.06 | antgel | !start a router war |
| 22:22.15 | Caelum | and WRT54Gs run linux btw |
| 22:22.23 | TwistedEmotions | I thought +E killed the bots... Im still getting one once in a while... |
| 22:22.28 | lavish | abrotman, antgel anyway, I' ve just solved... I' ve switched the official rep from testing to stable and it works now. Thanks |
| 22:22.38 | _ray | "DPMS" "ON" |
| 22:22.40 | asg | TwistedEmotions: some bots register themselves so +E doesn't help in that case. |
| 22:22.41 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: if they're registering themselves, it won't work |
| 22:22.42 | _ray | no = |
| 22:22.49 | Quinn_Storm | _ray: no = |
| 22:22.50 | antgel | lavish: i forgot what your problem was but good luck to you |
| 22:22.59 | lavish | antgel, lol |
| 22:23.04 | _ray | Quinn_Storm: with quotes tho right? |
| 22:23.06 | beardy | and with the excellent reminders by the staff, they all will have registered soon.. :) |
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| 22:23.13 | atom_z | how can I play my cds with alsa? |
| 22:23.13 | Quinn_Storm | _ray: yes |
| 22:23.16 | TwistedEmotions | We should make a no spam register anti spam bot registy. And then lock Access! |
| 22:23.17 | greycat | _ray: MAN PAGES! READ THE MAN PAGES! |
| 22:23.26 | Quinn_Storm | RTMP? |
| 22:23.27 | abrotman | !be a manpage barbie |
| 22:23.28 | Quinn_Storm | RTFMP? |
| 22:23.28 | dpkg | Aww, manpage is hard! Let's go shopping, abrotman |
| 22:23.30 | antgel | atom_z: install a cdplayer app or xmms |
| 22:23.32 | abrotman | doh |
| 22:23.37 | greycat | !be man barbie |
| 22:23.41 | greycat | !be man page barbie |
| 22:23.43 | antgel | !be a man |
| 22:23.47 | asg | greycat: I think you broke it |
| 22:23.47 | _ray | lets try it |
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| 22:23.57 | greycat | !be manpage barbie |
| 22:23.57 | dpkg | *roff is HARD! Let's use texinfo! |
| 22:23.59 | greycat | there! |
| 22:24.03 | Eulex | atom_z, use xmms (which does binary decoding or whatever it's called) |
| 22:24.03 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: then apperently they are comming identified now |
| 22:24.08 | jim | _ray: for quoting rules (if you're using bash), info bash is the best reference |
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| 22:24.12 | greycat | dpkg, be man page barbie is <reply> see be manpage barbie |
| 22:24.13 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
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| 22:24.29 | atom_z | ok... how can I get xmms to play a CD? (it wants a file) |
| 22:24.31 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: Uhh.. ur like 20 minutes too late ;) |
| 22:24.33 | greycat | jim: he's doing XF86Config not bash |
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| 22:24.38 | EmleyMoor | greycat: Sounds recursive |
| 22:24.38 | Quinn_Storm | at least if they identify then freenode can silently not identify them but pretend it did |
| 22:24.41 | jim | oh, ok |
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| 22:24.46 | asg | !be man barbie is <reply>Do I look like Ken? |
| 22:24.47 | beardy | atom_z: xmms /dev/cdrom |
| 22:24.47 | dpkg | asg: okay |
| 22:24.49 | spstarr | hrm whats this error: |
| 22:24.51 | greycat | atom_z: use grip or cdcd or something. xmms's cd playing interface is HORRID. |
| 22:24.51 | antgel | atom_z: may i respectfully suggest you read the fricking manual? |
| 22:24.51 | nvz | TwistedEmotions: uhh.. you only said it 2 minutes ago |
| 22:24.51 | spstarr | Setting up libpango1.0-common (1.10.0-2) ... |
| 22:24.51 | spstarr | --output-fd: unknown option |
| 22:24.59 | spstarr | from apt/debconf/dpkg? |
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| 22:25.04 | TwistedEmotions | nvz: Im kidding... I love you |
| 22:25.04 | jim | !stop a barbie war |
| 22:25.05 | dpkg | wars are too HARD! let's just all be friends and go shopping! |
| 22:25.05 | Quinn_Storm | xmms is horrid |
| 22:25.07 | greycat | spstarr: we call that a 'bug' |
| 22:25.11 | TwistedEmotions | !love nvz |
| 22:25.18 | Quinn_Storm | !love amaroK |
| 22:25.19 | antgel | spstarr: sarge? |
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| 22:25.29 | spstarr | antel: experimental/unstable |
| 22:25.36 | atom_z | greycat, do they support ALSA? |
| 22:25.39 | antgel | !tell spstarr about unstable |
| 22:25.46 | Quinn_Storm | my silly kitten keeps trying to "help" |
| 22:25.58 | asg | Quinn_Storm: kittens often do |
| 22:26.02 | spstarr | apt-listbugs eh |
| 22:26.04 | Quinn_Storm | she's just big enough to push keys |
| 22:26.15 | greycat | atom_z: meaningless question. playing an audio cd doesn't even require a kernel sound driver AT ALL. |
| 22:26.31 | spstarr | its not that, im saying is it a bug in the debian package? |
| 22:26.32 | atom_z | well, I want to be able to hear it |
| 22:26.35 | greycat | unless you're playing it through CD-DA extaction and DSP |
| 22:26.38 | spstarr | or a bug in apt/dpkg/debconf |
| 22:26.43 | EmleyMoor | We said "nice password" to someone on an IRC channel once and he said "no, cat typing" |
| 22:26.45 | spstarr | if its a bug in the package, i can wait |
| 22:26.59 | antgel | take it to #coldanimals please |
| 22:26.59 | EmleyMoor | Have they developed a "cat typing" detector for Linux yet? |
| 22:27.23 | Quinn_Storm | lol |
| 22:27.26 | greycat | EmleyMoor: well, first you need a neural network of 100 cat brains.. |
| 22:27.27 | antgel | spstarr: suggest that rather than ask us, you look on bugs.debian.org |
| 22:27.36 | spstarr | good point |
| 22:27.37 | jim | you mean like ,l;ofsd;mjprih8w5e4? |
| 22:27.39 | beardy | antgel: take it to #iliketohatestuff |
| 22:27.45 | asg | Quinn_Storm: http://gimp.shacknet.nu/cats/webster/webster-couch-4.jpg (this one eats laptops for breakfast) |
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| 22:27.50 | EmleyMoor | I know there's a "cat typing" detector for Windows |
| 22:27.52 | Quinn_Storm | I'd look if I could |
| 22:27.54 | Quinn_Storm | in console right now |
| 22:28.16 | antgel | beardy: i'd prefer #iamhighlyselective :) |
| 22:28.27 | jim | Quinn_Storm: there are many console tools for looking at bugs... that's not an excuse bub :P |
| 22:28.31 | beardy | antgel: :) |
| 22:28.37 | Gnea | heh |
| 22:28.39 | Gnea | wget+zgv |
| 22:28.39 | EmleyMoor | Anyway, time for bed - I have to go and fetch my host's mother in the morning |
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| 22:28.42 | greycat | jim: I believe she meant the cat |
| 22:28.52 | jim | not the least of which is lynx or links |
| 22:28.52 | Quinn_Storm | yeah but I'm on a router |
| 22:28.55 | Quinn_Storm | lol |
| 22:29.29 | Gnea | must be a kid still |
| 22:29.38 | abrotman | asg: i thought you guys didn't have any kids |
| 22:29.42 | jim | Quinn_Storm: hmmm... then you're going to have to explore to figure out how to go about reading bug reports, if that's what you want... |
| 22:29.46 | abrotman | asg: that's a very furry child |
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| 22:29.52 | Quinn_Storm | jim: you're talking to the wrong person |
| 22:29.54 | asg | abrotman: mrs asg teaches kids, we have cats |
| 22:29.59 | Quinn_Storm | jim: I was talking about an image of a cat ;) |
| 22:30.03 | abrotman | asg: furry child! |
| 22:30.06 | hyperstream | how can i use nautilus to burn my mp3's into a audio cd? |
| 22:30.08 | abrotman | asg: too big to be a cat |
| 22:30.16 | jim | Quinn_Storm: ok |
| 22:30.16 | abrotman | gnomebaker ... |
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| 22:30.28 | asg | abrotman: he's a beast. The other one eats bugs, carpet fluff, and his own fur. |
| 22:30.31 | foo | What program could I use to sync up music on my iPod with linux? |
| 22:30.35 | beardy | hyperstream: Isn't nautilus some sort of "filemanager"..? |
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| 22:30.43 | Quinn_Storm | foo: amaroK? |
| 22:30.45 | abrotman | asg: i bet those are some lovely hairballs :) |
| 22:30.46 | hyperstream | it has cd/dvd writing support |
| 22:30.49 | _ray | ok that "DPMS" "ON" commands made my x not even start |
| 22:30.53 | lunitik | foo: anything based on pymusique iir |
| 22:30.54 | abrotman | !ipod |
| 22:30.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ipod is a purty silver and white or black box, definitely not bigger tha a bread box. Would be better if it supported some non-encumbered formats. apt-get install gtkpod, or see http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alinux1394.org+ipod for proof that it really does work under linux. |
| 22:30.56 | antgel | hyperstream: don't know but you could use mp3burn then you won't need all the gnome fluff |
| 22:30.59 | greycat | _ray: you probably forgot the "Option" |
| 22:31.00 | hyperstream | beardy, why what would you use to burn mp3's into audio ? |
| 22:31.08 | Gnea | ok, time to upgrade this workstation |
| 22:31.12 | hyperstream | antgel, doesi t have a gui? |
| 22:31.24 | antgel | !pal hyperstream |
| 22:31.25 | hyperstream | its mainly for the g/f since she's taken up debian :P |
| 22:31.27 | asg | abrotman: oh yea |
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| 22:31.39 | Eulex | why does everybody need a shiny gui nowadays? |
| 22:31.44 | lunitik | hyperstream: cdrecord --audio |
| 22:31.47 | _ray | greycat: ok so how should i type it? |
| 22:31.53 | antgel | hyperstream: get her bash'ing! (oo-er) |
| 22:31.55 | asg | abrotman: http://gimp.shacknet.nu/cats/sandy/sandy-bed16.jpg (the one that eats his own fur) |
| 22:31.58 | hyperstream | :P |
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| 22:32.02 | hyperstream | she will be eventually |
| 22:32.14 | beardy | hyperstream: cdrecord, or some graphical frontend if you like that, or search after a gnome cdrecording application, if you want it to be gnomish. |
| 22:32.19 | yalgebra | hi everyone ! anyone here having experiece with web-cyradm please ? |
| 22:32.22 | antgel | hyperstream: basically it doesn't have a gui but it is a piece of piss to use |
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| 22:32.33 | jim | !polls |
| 22:32.34 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 22:32.35 | hyperstream | antgel, : sounds good |
| 22:32.38 | hyperstream | thanks you guys |
| 22:32.38 | asg | yalgebra: someone made a web interface to cyrus? *shudder* |
| 22:32.40 | jim | !bad polls |
| 22:32.41 | dpkg | The reasons we hate polls are because: 1) they are a massive waste of IRC and bandwidth and screen real estate when asked in a 700 person channel. Did you want 700 answers? 2) They're often a prelude to isolating one helper and barraging him or her in /msg. BAD! |
| 22:32.45 | hyperstream | beardy, ahh yep ill do that also |
| 22:32.54 | abrotman | asg: i love cats .. but i'm allergic :( |
| 22:33.02 | lunitik | hyperstream: best cd burning software for gnome = gnomebaker ... k3b is better though :/ |
| 22:33.06 | asg | abrotman: me too, I deal with it. |
| 22:33.12 | geocritter | hi ya'll...got a quick question... |
| 22:33.17 | yalgebra | thats it now you know it, could you help me with cyrus issue ? |
| 22:33.25 | hyperstream | ooo gnomebaker |
| 22:33.26 | yalgebra | asg, thats it now you know it, could you help me with cyrus issue ? |
| 22:33.28 | greycat | !cyrus |
| 22:33.28 | dpkg | well, cyrus is the CMU Cyrus mail system. It supports IMAP, POP3, NNTP and many other mail related protocols. Its homepage is at http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/. <greycat> cyrus is like a huge black cube with an eyeball painted on it that says "YOUR MAIL IS SAFE WITH ME, CITIZEN" |
| 22:33.29 | lunitik | !tell geocritter about ask |
| 22:33.31 | geocritter | anybody from Richmond, va? |
| 22:33.57 | geocritter | I'm trying to find a set of Deb cd's...I can't dl them (dialup), and it's like nobody around here sells them |
| 22:33.58 | greycat | that quote's wrong anyway... I should've said pyramid |
| 22:33.58 | abrotman | asg: no .. i mean .. badly ... |
| 22:33.59 | asg | greycat: does it yell 'Purple Hair Spiders' and then die also? |
| 22:34.00 | jim | yalgebra: /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 22:34.07 | abrotman | asg: much better when i was a kid .. but now .. not so good |
| 22:34.09 | asg | abrotman: ah, that's sad. |
| 22:34.16 | abrotman | asg: maybe some day! :) |
| 22:34.21 | lunitik | geocritter: Debian probably isn't the distro for you if you have a crap internet connection... |
| 22:34.23 | asg | abrotman: :) |
| 22:34.26 | hyperstream | geocritter, ubuntu sends out cd's for free |
| 22:34.28 | hyperstream | no shipping |
| 22:34.32 | hyperstream | they are heavily funded |
| 22:34.44 | hyperstream | runs off the debian platform or something |
| 22:34.46 | antgel | who's funding them? |
| 22:34.48 | geocritter | I'm using ubuntu as we speak...but I dunno..the forking worries me a little |
| 22:34.52 | abrotman | antgel: shuttleworth |
| 22:34.53 | jim | by Canonical, probably... |
| 22:34.54 | lunitik | hyperstream: we don't talk about Ubuntu though ;) |
| 22:34.55 | asg | antgel: Canonical |
| 22:34.59 | antgel | geocritter: nothing wrong with a good fork |
| 22:35.02 | hyperstream | oo we dont? |
| 22:35.04 | abrotman | antgel: shuttleworth |
| 22:35.27 | beardy | hyperstream: ubuntu talk goes best in #ubuntu |
| 22:35.29 | abrotman | beer beer beer ... i'd like a beer .... |
| 22:35.44 | stew | abrotman: sly fox |
| 22:35.51 | beardy | !beer abrotman |
| 22:36.16 | asg | abrotman: sam smiths |
| 22:36.16 | abrotman | stew: i'm trying .. the guy i asked just woke up :) |
| 22:36.16 | atom_z | i cant hear any sound out of ksCD |
| 22:36.16 | abrotman | stew: i'm going to see if he wants to go |
| 22:36.18 | asuffield | antgel: it's not the way canonical forks everything that annoys people. it's the way they fork at the expense of existing projects, by buying off their developers |
| 22:36.30 | Eulex | atom_z, checked mixer settings? |
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| 22:36.33 | atom_z | Eulex, how? (i'm using alsa) |
| 22:36.37 | lunitik | atom_z: plug your speakers into the plug on the CDROM |
| 22:36.37 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: fix it! |
| 22:36.42 | Quinn_Storm | abrotman: hmm? |
| 22:36.43 | Eulex | atom_z, alsamixer |
| 22:36.46 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: fix it! |
| 22:36.52 | Quinn_Storm | !fix it |
| 22:36.57 | lunitik | atom_z: you don't have a connector for cdrom > sound card :/ |
| 22:37.01 | atom_z | lunitik, it doesnt have a plug |
| 22:37.03 | geocritter | plus I was kind of hoping to get a "pure" version (I came from Slackware at one point, if that tells much0 |
| 22:37.04 | Eulex | lol |
| 22:37.08 | yalgebra | well the problem is when using : cyradm --user cyrus --server localhost --auth plain |
| 22:37.09 | yalgebra | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.09 | yalgebra | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.10 | lunitik | atom_z: shitty for you |
| 22:37.23 | greycat | yalgebra: ask #cyrus |
| 22:37.31 | lunitik | atom_z: I think xmms will work |
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| 22:37.46 | lunitik | (or beep-media-player) |
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| 22:38.05 | atom_z | Eulex, done... |
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| 22:38.30 | Eulex | who needs a gui? try cdtool |
| 22:38.35 | jim | !test |
| 22:38.35 | dpkg | Yes, jim, you're still online. |
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| 22:39.18 | greycat | time to re-rip this song :) |
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| 22:39.24 | antgel | ogg at 128 is a mile better |
| 22:39.36 | LordMyren | probly just Xing encoded |
| 22:39.40 | greycat | if it were ogg it wouldn't be a continuous 128, so it's a CBR MP#. |
| 22:39.44 | LordMyren | 128 aint that bad if its done right |
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| 22:39.49 | jim | yalgebra: that's getting closer to the way you need to communicate with people who you're asking for help from... |
| 22:40.07 | greycat | my 128 CBR MP3s aren't "done right" by any stretch of the imagination. they predate my use of Vorbis ferchissake |
| 22:40.09 | LordMyren | headphones you can tell the diff. over speakers it usually aint so bad |
| 22:40.34 | greycat | LordMyren: this is over speakers. |
| 22:40.35 | LordMyren | yweah, they are CBR.... never a good indicator of done right. ;) |
| 22:40.49 | greycat | -rw-rw-r-- 1 greg greg 5748726 2001-05-22 22:59 Natalie Merchant-Carnival.mp3 |
| 22:40.49 | beardy | LordMyren: Depends entirely on your speakers and noise in the room though. |
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| 22:41.02 | abrotman | greycat: i see your problem |
| 22:41.09 | antgel | ogg _can_ to cbt, i think |
| 22:41.11 | LordMyren | still having ears |
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| 22:41.14 | antgel | jeez |
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| 22:41.18 | LordMyren | obviously this must be remedied |
| 22:41.20 | antgel | s/to cbt/do cbr |
| 22:41.28 | greycat | griffon:/tmp$ oggenc -q 4 -o "Natalie Merchant - Carnival.ogg" 01.wav |
| 22:41.37 | _ray | greycat: thanks......it works with the Option.......your the man |
| 22:41.47 | Quinn_Storm | ok wtf...half the kde packages depend on qt3c102-mt and the other depend on qt3-mt... |
| 22:41.47 | dondelelcaro | !beer #debian |
| 22:41.59 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: welcome to unofficial package hell |
| 22:42.00 | LordMyren | xscreensaver pisses me off. its dpms sensitivity is about as sharp as a brick |
| 22:42.09 | greycat | oops, shit, it's not track 1. |
| 22:42.15 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: lol |
| 22:42.16 | zinx | sensitivity? |
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| 22:42.34 | LordMyren | it takes like 20 minutes for it to detect the frakking screen is closed and i havent gotten patient enough to wait to see if it ever resumes when i open the lid |
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| 22:42.42 | zinx | hah |
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| 22:42.46 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: just wait till kde3.4.2 gets into sid propper :/ |
| 22:42.52 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: perhaps #debian-kde can help |
| 22:42.59 | zinx | it doesn't know the lid is closed |
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| 22:43.01 | zinx | it can't know |
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| 22:43.02 | Quinn_Storm | lunitik: its the kde 3.4.2 in unstable that is causing the problem |
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| 22:43.10 | zinx | that's a hardware thing :) |
| 22:43.14 | LordMyren | its indirect detection through dpms settings |
| 22:43.26 | LordMyren | the hardware triggers acpi. acpid picks up screen open close |
| 22:43.27 | Eulex | zinx, acpi |
| 22:43.33 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: because they are bringing in newer packages for some things... that aren't compatible with the source you added... |
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| 22:43.48 | dondelelcaro | doesn't that usually cause the laptop to go to sleep:? |
| 22:43.51 | Quinn_Storm | lunitik: I didn't add any unofficial sources |
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| 22:43.51 | greycat | just admit it, KDE sucketh. |
| 22:43.52 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: if I recall... you're adding 3.4.1 packages... thus the issue |
| 22:43.53 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: thought you weren't going to use unstable |
| 22:43.57 | djperegrine | when I login to user (mthtv) from gdm it says cannot write authentaction file, disk full or can't write to disk |
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| 22:44.02 | greycat | use fvwm. you know it's better for you. |
| 22:44.02 | djperegrine | but its not |
| 22:44.07 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: no I am using unstable |
| 22:44.10 | LordMyren | i wish i were a shell foo faster. i wanted to script up a way to make it so i had to hit the power button twice in rapid succession for the thing to shut off. |
| 22:44.16 | djperegrine | accually, how can I double check? |
| 22:44.20 | greycat | djperegrine: read only file system? |
| 22:44.21 | LordMyren | but i'm just not leet enough with shell scripts |
| 22:44.22 | Quinn_Storm | though let me try commenting out unstable |
| 22:44.23 | greycat | djperegrine: df |
| 22:44.28 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: yeah but you said you were going to use testing and the unofficial kde3.4, i thought |
| 22:44.38 | djperegrine | :O |
| 22:44.42 | atom_z | xmms still gives no audio output |
| 22:44.44 | djperegrine | its says 100% used :O |
| 22:44.45 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: well I changed my mind when I heard 3.4.2 was in unstable |
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| 22:44.59 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i thought we told you that unstable is fucked right now |
| 22:45.00 | djperegrine | how can I see what files are taking up so much space? |
| 22:45.04 | LordMyren | atom_z: what output |
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| 22:45.23 | djperegrine | it wasn't like this before |
| 22:45.31 | djperegrine | I had like 17 gigs free last time I checked |
| 22:45.40 | atom_z | LordMyren, just says its using 'default' device |
| 22:45.53 | dondelelcaro | djperegrine: du -hs; will let you know. Of course, if you're using mythtv, 17G is nothing |
| 22:45.55 | djperegrine | which was like a few hours ago |
| 22:45.59 | atom_z | LordMyren, I want it to output via arts/alsa to the soundcard |
| 22:46.01 | TwistedEmotions | when you use apt's --reinstall command is it as effective as using the --purge command to remove and then reinstall the program? |
| 22:46.02 | nima | is there a linux equivalent for alt+number-pad? |
| 22:46.09 | djperegrine | I DELETED all my movie files |
| 22:46.14 | djperegrine | I think it just moved them or something |
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| 22:46.22 | lunitik | atom_z: kdemm renders arts obsolete |
| 22:46.34 | Quinn_Storm | ok well I'm trying the unofficial packages...but they want dbus-qt-1 which does not appear to exist |
| 22:46.42 | LordMyren | atom_z: is that arts through alsa or either of the two options? there is no "default" sound output module, it should either default to OSS or alsa.... |
| 22:46.46 | atom_z | lunitik, i'm running etch, it still has arts |
| 22:46.49 | dondelelcaro | djperegrine: well, again, du -hs; will let you know what is using the space. du -hs /*; will get you started. |
| 22:47.03 | atom_z | LordMyren, either option would be fine |
| 22:47.10 | LordMyren | lunitik: i dont think there is a kdemm output plugin for XMMS.... |
| 22:47.15 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: from http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/? |
| 22:47.16 | LordMyren | not in unstable anywho |
| 22:47.18 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: yeah |
| 22:47.35 | LordMyren | atom_z: what is xmms set to output now? oss/arts/alsa? |
| 22:47.35 | abrotman | ask #debian-kde ? |
| 22:47.42 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone? apt--reinstall - does it purge and reinstall or no? |
| 22:47.44 | Quinn_Storm | I am asking there |
| 22:47.48 | lunitik | LordMyren: eh... preferences > audio > output plugin... select arts from drop down... presto |
| 22:48.05 | atom_z | LordMyren, no idea |
| 22:48.06 | djperegrine | Its not adding up |
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| 22:48.11 | atom_z | LordMyren, how can I check? |
| 22:48.16 | djperegrine | The biggest file is 1.9 gigs |
| 22:48.18 | LordMyren | atom_z: see lunitik's above comment |
| 22:48.20 | djperegrine | I have a 30 gig drive |
| 22:48.24 | antgel | !tell djperegrine about disk space |
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| 22:48.33 | LordMyren | I wish polypaudio werent dead. That was looking like a damned fine gnome esd replacement |
| 22:48.38 | LordMyren | nice piping and latency control |
| 22:48.51 | LordMyren | and the docs for piping are extremely non existant |
| 22:49.00 | LordMyren | kind of counters the "nice" bit |
| 22:49.12 | atom_z | LordMyren, its set to ALSA now |
| 22:49.36 | atom_z | LordMyren, but when I set it i get the following: "Message: alsa mixer timed out" on the konsole |
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| 22:50.04 | atom_z | LordMyren, could it be arts blocking other sound thingies? |
| 22:50.20 | Eulex | atom_z, are you using analog or digital cd output? |
| 22:50.20 | LordMyren | I dont think the mixer is required. Xmms is very bad at finding alsa mixers (looks for very odd default names) |
| 22:50.26 | atom_z | Eulex, no idea |
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| 22:50.40 | LordMyren | atom_z: yes, it could very well be. Try shutting down arts or switching to the arts output plugin |
| 22:50.40 | Eulex | atom_z, then check the cd plugin's settings |
| 22:51.01 | atom_z | Eulex, how? |
| 22:51.04 | LordMyren | i dont think he's tryign to play a CD |
| 22:51.10 | atom_z | I am |
| 22:51.20 | LordMyren | try with a sound file first |
| 22:51.22 | greycat | !info cdcd sarge |
| 22:51.24 | LordMyren | make sure you're getting output |
| 22:51.27 | beardy | hyperstream: There is apparently a package for burning cd:s in nautilus, nautilus-cd-burner |
| 22:51.31 | dpkg | cdcd: (command line or console based CD player), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.6.5-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 144 kB |
| 22:51.35 | greycat | LordMyren: that has very little to do with playing a CD the original way |
| 22:51.36 | LordMyren | reduce number of complications as much as possible |
| 22:51.41 | greycat | does cdcd play it? |
| 22:51.42 | atom_z | LordMyren, I know alsa and arts work... because I can hear kde sounds |
| 22:51.56 | LordMyren | but that doesnt mean xmms is working |
| 22:52.04 | atom_z | greycat, dunno... can that be apt-getted? |
| 22:52.08 | LordMyren | i suspect your xmms just isnt outputting any sound at all |
| 22:52.13 | greycat | you don't need to have ALSA or ARTS or permissions on /dev/dsp to play CD audio |
| 22:52.14 | LordMyren | as xmms is very tendant to do |
| 22:52.32 | Eulex | atom_z, what about playing a plain mp3 in xmms? |
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| 22:52.37 | antgel | atom_z: if you don't have a cd audio cable in your machine, you'll need to turn on the sill digital audio thing in xmmd cd plugin |
| 22:52.41 | greycat | ARRRRRRRGH! |
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| 22:52.54 | greycat | STOP TELLING HIM PLAY DIGITAL MUSIC FILES THROUGH HIS SOUND DRIVERS! |
| 22:52.59 | greycat | that has nothing to do with AUDIO CDS! |
| 22:53.00 | Rawplayer | dont use capslock please |
| 22:53.00 | LordMyren | and after you turn on digital audio, you'll need to make sure XMMS is outputting sound period |
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| 22:53.06 | Rawplayer | :p |
| 22:53.09 | atom_z | greycat, I dont have a headphones plug on the front of my CD drive |
| 22:53.09 | LordMyren | it doesnt? |
| 22:53.14 | greycat | Rawplayer: when people stop being stupid, I'll stop being angry |
| 22:53.16 | atom_z | greycat, unfortunately |
| 22:53.16 | LordMyren | awh, fuck it. *shrug* |
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| 22:53.25 | antgel | !spliff greycat |
| 22:53.30 | LordMyren | wh00t |
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| 22:53.37 | beardy | greycat: You'll be angry forever. |
| 22:53.39 | atom_z | greycat, so it needs to come out of the soundcard, somehow |
| 22:53.41 | Rawplayer | indeed |
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| 22:53.42 | Rawplayer | :) |
| 22:53.46 | LordMyren | hey, puff puff pass man, you know the rules |
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| 22:53.57 | Quinn_Storm | hey where is that info on E17 while I install kde? |
| 22:54.13 | LordMyren | enlightenment.org |
| 22:54.25 | Quinn_Storm | are there apt sources or debs? |
| 22:54.25 | Rawplayer | what does enlightenment have todo with kde? |
| 22:54.31 | FieldySnuts | nothing |
| 22:54.34 | Quinn_Storm | Rawplayer: nothing, I'm just trying it out while kde downloads |
| 22:54.40 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: as we're all touting our favourite wm's, YOU MUST USE WINDOWMAKER! |
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| 22:54.43 | greycat | atom_z: there should be a special cable from the CD-ROM to the sound card. |
| 22:54.47 | Rawplayer | enlightenment is cooler :p |
| 22:54.50 | Rawplayer | then kde |
| 22:54.52 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: lol I used to do that a while ago |
| 22:54.54 | FieldySnuts | troll |
| 22:54.58 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: but then I realized how out of date it all was |
| 22:55.03 | mgoose | Quinn_Storm: I searched google and found then after a while |
| 22:55.05 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: has someone picked up development of GnuSTEP? |
| 22:55.05 | greycat | atom_z: that's how audio CDs are played, unless you use digital audio extraction (ripping) and then play it as PCM through the sound card, but xmms doesn't do that TTBOMK |
| 22:55.10 | beardy | Rawplayer: stop it, we've already seen enough wm discussion for today |
| 22:55.12 | Quinn_Storm | hmm I'll try apt-get.org |
| 22:55.13 | mgoose | I'm not in my debian install ATM or I'd tell ya |
| 22:55.21 | Rawplayer | lol beardy ;p |
| 22:55.24 | LordMyren | TTBOMK? |
| 22:55.27 | mgoose | Quinn_Storm: I doubt they'll have em but good idea |
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| 22:55.30 | greycat | to the best of my knowledge |
| 22:55.31 | atom_z | greycat, i see |
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| 22:55.46 | mgoose | Quinn_Storm: btw, I had to do some jugglery to get it going |
| 22:55.48 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i don't really follow development. it displays windows. it has workspaces. it doesn't get in the way. it's not bloated. |
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| 22:55.58 | Quinn_Storm | heh |
| 22:55.59 | atom_z | greycat, this all works in windows... so I believe the hardware is correctly setup |
| 22:56.00 | Quinn_Storm | I found debs |
| 22:56.04 | Quinn_Storm | apt-get.org is great |
| 22:56.13 | mgoose | how current are they |
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| 22:56.14 | greycat | windows probably does digital audio extraction without telling you |
| 22:56.19 | mgoose | what is the site btw, might be the same one I have |
| 22:56.21 | Quinn_Storm | very according to the version string |
| 22:56.22 | FieldySnuts | yep, that's its default |
| 22:56.23 | greycat | I believe someone told me that once. I have no way to confirm it. |
| 22:56.25 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i was on the mailing list for a while - it is still being developed though. the only way i'm going from here is ratpoison. |
| 22:56.30 | antgel | greycat: *nod* |
| 22:56.32 | LordMyren | e17 hasnt really started concerning itself with users yet, its mainly hardcore dev work. not much for users. although the tests are pretty. ;) |
| 22:56.42 | Quinn_Storm | site is soulmachine.net/debian unstable/ |
| 22:56.48 | mgoose | yesssssss |
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| 22:56.56 | mgoose | I mean, that's what I had, lol |
| 22:57.00 | antgel | atom_z: is it _stil_ not working? |
| 22:57.06 | atom_z | antgel, no |
| 22:57.07 | djperegrine | ok when I do ds it says /dev/hda1 is 100% used, but when I do cd / && du -kx --max-depth=1 -h -c it gives me a total of gigs in the / directory and it says 2.2 gigs |
| 22:57.08 | LordMyren | greycat: preferences -> cd player -> configure. play mode: digital extraction. |
| 22:57.12 | _ray | debian is the best distrobution imho |
| 22:57.22 | mgoose | Quinn_Storm: I had to disable my sources and stuff because I didn't have the depends or soemthing |
| 22:57.27 | LordMyren | atom_z: play a sound file in xmms first, seriously. |
| 22:57.29 | antgel | atom_z: have you actually tried what people said? |
| 22:57.36 | greycat | atom_z: so if you lack the special cable to the sound card, then DAE is your only way to play CDs |
| 22:57.47 | LordMyren | and XMMS does have DAE |
| 22:57.48 | Quinn_Storm | mgoose: strange |
| 22:57.52 | Quinn_Storm | well I'll try installing it |
| 22:57.52 | mgoose | I'd just use downthemall w/firefox or gftp or wget or something to get all the debs, dpkg -i them, and then apt-get -f install the rest |
| 22:58.08 | djperegrine | I meant df |
| 22:58.11 | Quinn_Storm | looks like apt-get install enlightenment will work |
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| 22:58.14 | mgoose | Quinn_Storm: sorry if you aldready knew, just thought it would make your life a bit easier |
| 22:58.15 | atom_z | antgel, thats a pretty dumb question... I want it to work, so ofcourse i've tried suggestions |
| 22:58.25 | Quinn_Storm | oh nevermind |
| 22:58.27 | atom_z | LordMyren, ok... will do |
| 22:58.27 | Quinn_Storm | bleh |
| 22:58.30 | Quinn_Storm | aptitude time |
| 22:58.32 | mgoose | Quinn_Storm: I don't think it will if you're using unstable |
| 22:58.33 | mgoose | heh |
| 22:58.38 | antgel | atom_z: including turning on digital audio and _restarting xmms_? |
| 22:58.44 | Quinn_Storm | ahh |
| 22:58.47 | mgoose | what will aptitude do that apt-get will not, out of curiousity |
| 22:58.51 | Quinn_Storm | the version string is "older" even though its newer |
| 22:58.56 | Quinn_Storm | aptitude lets you pick specific packages, etc. |
| 22:58.56 | mgoose | I never bother with aptitude/synaptic/etc |
| 22:58.57 | antgel | atom_z: and if you think my question was dumb, you haven't been here long |
| 22:58.59 | morbius | firefox wont download files, i have to right click 'Save Link As' in order to get it to work, but I am on site that I need to click a button and it starts the download so I can't download the file. how can I fix this? |
| 22:59.01 | atom_z | greycat, assuming i do lack the special cable, do you know of any cd players that support DAE? |
| 22:59.03 | _ray | hey how do i regester my nick? |
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| 22:59.09 | mgoose | ohhh nice, I might have to look into that |
| 22:59.14 | antgel | !tell mgoose about aptitude |
| 22:59.17 | mgoose | _ray: /msg nickserv help |
| 22:59.17 | greycat | atom_z: LordMyren says xmms does, but it must be optional |
| 22:59.24 | greycat | atom_z: I believe KDE does |
| 22:59.24 | beardy | mgoose: aptitude handles some dependency situations better |
| 22:59.25 | antgel | mgoose: aptituse is interactive if you want it to be |
| 22:59.33 | greycat | atom_z: you could always rip them wtih cdparanoia :) |
| 22:59.35 | TwistedEmotions | Errr... trying to get video to work in Firefox and where the video should be just sais "(no picture)"... sometimes audio works... but video never shows any ideas on how to fix? |
| 22:59.47 | hyperstream | is there a free version of cedega ? |
| 22:59.48 | mgoose | I figure if it's all based on apt, what's the point |
| 22:59.52 | AptGet | -NickServ- REGISTER |
| 22:59.52 | mgoose | but I'll look into it |
| 22:59.57 | greycat | hyperstream: ask #cedega |
| 23:00.00 | mgoose | hyperstream: yea, CVS |
| 23:00.02 | atom_z | antgel, i *think* i have turned on digital audio |
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| 23:00.09 | atom_z | antgel, where is it set? |
| 23:00.10 | djperegrine | hello? |
| 23:00.12 | hyperstream | thanks |
| 23:00.15 | mgoose | hyperstream: look for WineCVS |
| 23:00.17 | mgoose | on google |
| 23:00.24 | mgoose | there's a script floatin around somewhere |
| 23:00.26 | antgel | atom_z: ffs. how can you think it's on if you don't know where it's set? |
| 23:00.27 | mgoose | that helps a lot |
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| 23:00.46 | hyperstream | mgoose, does it work with the latest steam ? or you dont use steam? |
| 23:00.47 | atom_z | antgel, thought it would be automatic if i told it to output to arts |
| 23:00.52 | antgel | atom_z: i'm not on my debian box now, but if you go to preferences, plugins, can you see setting for the cd audio plugin? |
| 23:01.00 | antgel | atom_z: you thought so very wrong |
| 23:01.02 | atom_z | greycat, ok, thanks |
| 23:01.06 | mgoose | hyperstream: yep I use Steam, on Windows :-P |
| 23:01.17 | hyperstream | die windoze |
| 23:01.17 | mgoose | hyperstream: cause I need Vent |
| 23:01.23 | hyperstream | oo |
| 23:01.30 | hyperstream | ventrilio |
| 23:01.33 | mgoose | uh oh it seems I've dropped a bomb |
| 23:01.38 | atom_z | antgel, ah no... it wasnt on |
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| 23:01.42 | mgoose | hyperstream: last time I tried it though it worked nicely |
| 23:01.47 | antgel | atom_z: quelle surprise. |
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| 23:01.56 | mgoose | I had a little script set up and everything, it showed up in my tray |
| 23:02.08 | mgoose | the steam window doesn't want to minimize sometimes but :-/ |
| 23:02.11 | hyperstream | cause i got a warezed version and it was like , not working so yeah, about to buy legit copy |
| 23:02.11 | antgel | atom_z: so you didn't do what people asked you to do, and my question, far from being stupid, was pretty fucking accurate |
| 23:02.13 | mgoose | I used to just use it and then exit |
| 23:02.18 | vortek | Is there a way to get back my XF86Config-4 file I mangled it to hell and hack |
| 23:02.19 | hyperstream | but if there is a cvs |
| 23:02.28 | greycat | vortek: restore it from your last backup |
| 23:02.34 | hyperstream | that would be fine, you wouldnt happen to know the difference? (more support?) |
| 23:02.34 | antgel | heh |
| 23:02.36 | mgoose | hyperstream: yep, the CVS is free legally |
| 23:02.40 | atom_z | antgel, my appologies |
| 23:02.42 | vortek | greycat: I saved it to many times lol |
| 23:02.44 | greycat | hey that reminds me... it's my brother's birthday |
| 23:02.49 | vortek | nidce :) |
| 23:02.55 | mgoose | hyperstream: well the CVS is command line, not with the fancy gui installer bit they have |
| 23:03.13 | mgoose | and it doesn't have point2play or whatever, I never used it so I don't know what it is |
| 23:03.15 | hyperstream | oo thats ok then |
| 23:03.19 | vortek | greycat: I screwed it up treing to get this touch pad click crap turned off on this synaptics touch pad |
| 23:03.20 | mgoose | and you don't get votes for games |
| 23:03.23 | mgoose | if that's important for ya |
| 23:03.46 | hyperstream | point2play?? is this at all required to play steam multiplayer? |
| 23:03.49 | mgoose | I was thinking about buying it but the damn thing is subscription based evilness |
| 23:03.50 | vortek | I know theres a way to regen the xf86config file I just cant remember how |
| 23:03.53 | mgoose | nah |
| 23:03.58 | FieldySnuts | @fuck steam |
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| 23:04.14 | mgoose | just make sure you got your 3d accel working and you should be ok |
| 23:04.19 | hyperstream | FieldySnuts, its leet |
| 23:04.22 | morbius | firefox wont download files, i have to right click 'Save Link As' in order to get it to work, but I am on site that I need to click a button and it starts the download so I can't download the file. how can I fix this? |
| 23:04.25 | FieldySnuts | greycat: exactly. |
| 23:04.25 | hyperstream | mgoose, sweet |
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| 23:04.42 | mgoose | green_earz: cause everything runs on Debian |
| 23:05.08 | greycat | "mv it" |
| 23:05.11 | greycat | damn, ECHAN |
| 23:05.14 | MarGarina | kde3.4, yey :) |
| 23:05.24 | vortek | Does any one know how to regenerate the XF86config file ? |
| 23:05.27 | mgoose | lol I meant that to be for greycat |
| 23:05.30 | mgoose | oh well |
| 23:05.31 | hyperstream | which runs better gnome or kde? |
| 23:05.38 | greycat | hyperstream: a rock |
| 23:05.39 | dvs | !drxx vortek |
| 23:05.40 | mgoose | vortek: just move yours |
| 23:05.40 | dpkg | vortek: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:05.44 | hyperstream | LOL |
| 23:05.46 | mgoose | vortek: and start up x again |
| 23:05.50 | mgoose | and it should make a default |
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| 23:06.15 | krome | Analina: hello |
| 23:06.22 | beardy | vortek: after you have got the default again, make a backup copy to /root or something. |
| 23:06.22 | Analina | Hey krome :) |
| 23:06.27 | vortek | word |
| 23:06.29 | vortek | thanxs |
| 23:06.37 | krome | Analina: ko she kaish? |
| 23:06.44 | krome | ludnica a |
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| 23:07.08 | antgel | yak shemash |
| 23:07.22 | antgel | hyperstream: both |
| 23:07.25 | Analina | krome, lemme see :] |
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| 23:07.36 | Eulex | schak whak |
| 23:07.47 | greycat | knick knack paddy whack |
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| 23:07.58 | krome | Analina: dai na bylgarski 4e ne te razbiram |
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| 23:08.11 | krome | te tuka neznaqt za ko ide re4 |
| 23:08.13 | greycat | please take your non-English discussions elsewhere |
| 23:08.26 | krome | green_earz: ok |
| 23:08.36 | krome | greycat: ok |
| 23:08.38 | krome | sorry |
| 23:08.42 | Eulex | !tab-abuse |
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| 23:09.00 | greycat | Eulex: I used to get called "Greasy" all the time when there was a user here by that name |
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| 23:09.30 | Eulex | greycat, heh |
| 23:09.32 | atom_z | when I enabled DAE for xmms my system became majorly unstable |
| 23:09.44 | atom_z | however it seems to works fine with kscd |
| 23:09.49 | greycat | probably does quite a number on your bus |
| 23:10.07 | greycat | all that data has to go through the IDE channel to the CPU then back out the PCI bus to the sound card |
| 23:10.21 | Quinn_Storm | DAE at 1x shouldn't be a problem for any modern bus...consider reading from a CD at 52x |
| 23:10.34 | atom_z | i think its an xmms bug |
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| 23:10.38 | greycat | his CD-ROM may be throwing errors, too |
| 23:10.42 | antgel | greycat: hardly a great amount of data, although the pointless waste of resourcs does annoy me |
| 23:10.43 | atom_z | because it works fine with kscd |
| 23:10.47 | Quinn_Storm | I hate xmms |
| 23:10.48 | greycat | atom_z: interesting. |
| 23:10.56 | lunitik | atom_z: DAE? |
| 23:11.02 | greycat | personally, I'd rip the CDs once and store Oggs on a hard drive |
| 23:11.04 | Quinn_Storm | digital audio extraction |
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| 23:11.17 | Quinn_Storm | kaudiocreator is good for ripping CDs, taggs the files & stuff |
| 23:11.23 | obscuresoul | asg, i'm trying to run "mount -o loop initrd /mnt/blah" but a filesystem is needed! do you know which the filesystem is? |
| 23:11.28 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: ahh... play cd's without needing a connection? |
| 23:11.29 | antgel | !start a ripping war |
| 23:11.33 | Quinn_Storm | lunitik: yeah |
| 23:11.38 | greycat | !full monty |
| 23:11.38 | dpkg | The full Monty: ripping with cdparanoia, encoding with vorbis-tools, and playing on a Neuros with Monty's firmware. |
| 23:11.45 | antgel | grip does it for me |
| 23:11.51 | greycat | grip uses libcdparanoia |
| 23:11.58 | Quinn_Storm | so does kaudiocreator |
| 23:12.05 | Quinn_Storm | at least recent versions |
| 23:12.06 | antgel | one of the few packages that i've raised bug reports on |
| 23:12.47 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: but kaudiocreator has _such_ an awful name. anything starting with k is bad enough but fucking hell... |
| 23:12.52 | Quinn_Storm | grr, entrance doesn't understand xinerama |
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| 23:12.59 | Quinn_Storm | the login box is in the middle of the screen |
| 23:13.22 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: this is the kind of problem that isn't a problem |
| 23:13.29 | hyperstream | mgoose, do i need to install wine for this? |
| 23:13.33 | lunitik | antgel: haha |
| 23:13.37 | Quinn_Storm | lol I mean in the "crease" between the monitors |
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| 23:13.59 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: ohh... yeah... that would be an issue :) |
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| 23:14.22 | Quinn_Storm | lunitik: yeah its quite annoying |
| 23:14.30 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: 1. how often do you login. 2. how often do you need to see what you're typing when you login? |
| 23:14.57 | mgoose | hyperstream: nope, just check out the script |
| 23:14.58 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: in the mean time... file a bug ;) |
| 23:15.15 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: heh I see you like entrance |
| 23:15.23 | Quinn_Storm | lunitik: I will if its not a missing config option |
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| 23:15.58 | beardy | !tab-abuse |
| 23:15.58 | dpkg | i guess tab-abuse is Use tab completion when addressing people in #debian, (write the first characters of a nick, then hit TAB), but be sure to write enough characters of the nick to make it unique (or hit TAB more times to switch between the nicks that matches, to get the right one), and check that you got the correct nick before hitting Enter, otherwise you may tell the wrong people the wrong things. |
| 23:16.06 | lunitik | antgel: given those statements... what does it matter what dm is used? :) |
| 23:16.10 | Quinn_Storm | well now its having another problem...it won't log me in, just crashes out |
| 23:16.12 | cougar` | Anyone here using PeerGuardian? |
| 23:16.26 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i have no idea what entrance is. but if it's another graphical logon thing, i do despair. that's a free society for you. :) |
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| 23:16.55 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: its the enlightenment logon manager |
| 23:16.58 | greycat | some IRC clients just take the first alphabetical match when tab completing. better ones take the most-recently-active matching nick. |
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| 23:17.08 | antgel | lunitik: indeed. i myself use... login. i find it really feature-rich and it has everything i need. :) |
| 23:17.13 | greycat | e.g. q<TAB> gives me Quinn_Storm not Quag7 |
| 23:17.41 | lunitik | greycat: irrsi? |
| 23:17.44 | beardy | greycat: ah, yeah it does that for me too |
| 23:17.45 | greycat | no, irssi |
| 23:17.52 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: are you purposely winding me up? |
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| 23:18.12 | antgel | heh |
| 23:18.15 | Quinn_Storm | it actually looks quite nice...but...it won't run an xsession |
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| 23:18.31 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: that's like most of this type of software |
| 23:18.36 | vortek | any one ever succesfully gotten the synpatics touchpad to turn off the tapclick in xf86 ? |
| 23:18.40 | lunitik | Quinn_Storm: its a dm... just find one that works? |
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| 23:22.05 | antgel | is it really so quiet that no-one has spoken for 2 minutes? |
| 23:22.14 | dvs | greycat|home: Boy!, you commute fast! |
| 23:22.16 | atom_z | apparently |
| 23:22.23 | antgel | nice |
| 23:23.07 | greycat | dvs: I move my clone in and out as a spambot lure... |
| 23:23.19 | greycat | I'm actually sitting at home now |
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| 23:23.22 | TwistedEmotions | Can someone please help me with mplayer.. trying to get it to work.. it's insisting on loading up all nuts status. http://ovaici.homelinux.com/mplayer/ |
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| 23:24.08 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: you using the mariallat (sic?) packages? |
| 23:24.13 | TwistedEmotions | I mean... dude.. without a screenshow how do you explain that? |
| 23:24.24 | TwistedEmotions | antgel: unstable |
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| 23:24.33 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: it's not in unstable |
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| 23:24.52 | TwistedEmotions | antgel: Errr... how do I check to see what version I am running? |
| 23:25.00 | donw | Here's a moron question: For burning a data DVD do I use ISO9660, or some other filesystem? |
| 23:25.02 | SerajewelKS | does the 'savevm/loadvm' mechanism in qemu save the hard disk snapshot in the vm image if -snapshot is passed to qemu? |
| 23:25.03 | TwistedEmotions | antgel: mplayer-plugin or mplayer-386? |
| 23:25.04 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: sources.list |
| 23:25.27 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: ffs. what i'm asking is where did you get the mplayer packages from? |
| 23:25.29 | greycat | donw: iso9660 is fine |
| 23:25.47 | lilldude | greycat thanks to you and roomies i have kde an debian box working |
| 23:25.51 | greycat | donw: you'll probably want to use growisofs from the dvd+rw-tools package |
| 23:26.07 | TwistedEmotions | antgel: I think it downloads from deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
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| 23:26.17 | antgel | donw: if you're a mac user burning a disc for me, you use hfs or some other crap. that was a fun morning, triying to work that down. |
| 23:26.19 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: dpkg -l mplayer\* | tail -1 |
| 23:26.27 | TwistedEmotions | antgel: I have that source in there... I dont remember where it actually downloaded from. |
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| 23:26.29 | antgel | s/down/out. really bad tonight |
| 23:26.44 | TwistedEmotions | un mplayerplug-in <none> (no description available) |
| 23:26.49 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: grrrr. |
| 23:26.58 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: help us to help you |
| 23:27.02 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: ok, skip the tail -1, and just paste the one that is actually relevant :/ |
| 23:27.08 | dondelelcaro | antgel: it could also just be iso9660, really depends on what the mac user wants to burn. |
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| 23:27.33 | coywolf | RFC http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/26/42 <~~ plz feed me response, thanks. Are there enough people and users to really make use of it? is so, it may get merged to mainline. |
| 23:27.56 | TwistedEmotions | greycat: Err... Im not trying to tick you off but it's showing all the packages I DONT have installed. |
| 23:27.56 | donw | antgel: Go to 'apt-get.org' and search for mplayer, you'll find apt sources there. |
| 23:27.56 | donw | antgel: Also on the mplayer homepage, IIRC. |
| 23:27.58 | FieldySnuts | uh? |
| 23:28.04 | TwistedEmotions | greycat: #flood |
| 23:28.14 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: that's why I was hoping the tail -1 would pick a relevant one. |
| 23:28.29 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: pick one yourself with your superior-to-tail(1) intelligence |
| 23:28.33 | antgel | donw: why are you telling me that? |
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| 23:28.52 | beardy | !marillat |
| 23:28.53 | dpkg | i heard marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 23:29.01 | badcoder | how do i take an screenshot? |
| 23:29.02 | antgel | donw: marillat is generally accepted as the best anyway |
| 23:29.06 | greycat | badcoder: /msg dpkg screen shot |
| 23:29.14 | TwistedEmotions | Sorry ahead of time... |
| 23:29.16 | dondelelcaro | coywolf: probably not, since changing the EUID while an application is running can easily break things in spectacular ways |
| 23:29.17 | TwistedEmotions | in mplayer 1.0pre7-2 (no description available) |
| 23:29.17 | TwistedEmotions | ii mplayer-386 1.0-pre7-0.0 The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux |
| 23:29.20 | greycat | antgel: it's orders of magnitude easier than building mplayer from soruce |
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| 23:29.34 | donw | greycat: As I understand it, the groisofs is for rewritable DVDs, I just want to write a DVD-R with some data, and I'm sure sure what filesystem to use. |
| 23:29.41 | antgel | greycat: well duh |
| 23:29.42 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: ok, same version I have except -386 instead of -k6 |
| 23:29.49 | TwistedEmotions | theres a mplayer-fonts too.. but who cares about fonts ;P |
| 23:29.52 | Epix | how can i send sound from mic to /dev/ttyS0? |
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| 23:30.01 | donw | s/sure sure/not sure/g |
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| 23:30.09 | donw | Christ, I can't type in English anymore. |
| 23:30.09 | greycat | donw: for DVD-R, you *can* use cdrecord-ProDVD if you wish. |
| 23:30.22 | greycat | donw: but standard Free cdrecord can't |
| 23:30.22 | beardy | Epix: To accomplish what? /dev/ttyS0 is the serialport..? |
| 23:30.29 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: i find mplayer to be problematic anyway. i think it's clunky as fuck. could be because i'm lazy and use gmplayer |
| 23:30.39 | TwistedEmotions | greycat: it's funny the mplayer command and gmplayer command work fine ;P |
| 23:30.46 | antgel | and as for that fucking firefox plugin |
| 23:30.50 | greycat | TwistedEmotions: oh, so mplayer works... then I won |
| 23:30.52 | donw | greycat: I have no problem putting data onto the DVD, but WHAT FILESYSTEM DO I NEED TO USE? ISO9660? UFS? CramFS? HFS+? NTFS? *grin* |
| 23:30.54 | greycat | don't know what your question is. |
| 23:31.00 | Epix | beardy: the end result would be using a phone as a mic/speaker |
| 23:31.06 | greycat | 19:25 greycat> donw: iso9660 is fine |
| 23:31.11 | donw | greycat: Thank you. :) |
| 23:31.18 | dondelelcaro | donw: iso9660 is fine; you'll probably want -udf too. |
| 23:31.24 | TwistedEmotions | greycat: but video still loads funny... like what you saw with firefox ;( |
| 23:31.27 | donw | dondelelcaro: Excellent. Thanks! |
| 23:31.35 | greycat | I saw something in firefox? |
| 23:31.50 | FieldySnuts | about:mozilla ? |
| 23:31.52 | antgel | TwistedEmotions: it's not in debian. good luck. just trawl the numerous cryptic settings. |
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| 23:32.35 | TwistedEmotions | antgel: thanks ;) Will try. Just happy it works now... forgot I installed VLC... for the longest time NO video would play. |
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| 23:33.05 | antgel | i don't know why people like it so much. i'd rather not watch video. |
| 23:33.20 | antgel | actually, scratch that remark |
| 23:33.26 | donw | antgel: Ah. Porn. |
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| 23:33.43 | beardy | Epix: Through a modem you mean? Probably hard to do, they way I think you mean. vgetty perhaps, not sure how you mean though.. |
| 23:33.45 | antgel | donw: don't lower the tone |
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| 23:34.50 | Epix | beardy: here is what i want to do. Plug a cordless phone into my modem and then use it with skype or another VoIP program. |
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| 23:35.09 | beardy | Epix: If you are going to use a phone as a mic and speaker, take it apart and put 3,5mm plugs on the speaker and mic, and plug it into your soundcard. |
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| 23:35.17 | donw | Epix: If you can figure out hos to do that, that would be cool. |
| 23:35.44 | Epix | beardy: that defeats the purpose |
| 23:36.48 | harleyg | whats the help/support channel for freenode |
| 23:36.56 | antgel | #freenode |
| 23:36.58 | greycat | harleyg: guess. |
| 23:36.59 | harleyg | thanks |
| 23:37.02 | beardy | harleyg: #freenode ? #help |
| 23:37.10 | harleyg | im retarded... |
| 23:37.12 | harleyg | so yah |
| 23:37.14 | antgel | in vim, how can i format a c++ function? |
| 23:37.31 | greycat | !}indent ? |
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| 23:38.24 | antgel | greycat: ta. i'm not to great at anything other than the basics in vim |
| 23:38.51 | greycat | that's crude, though -- you'll probably need to use marks to mark the beginning and end |
| 23:39.11 | antgel | vim is crude. c++ is crude. |
| 23:39.33 | antgel | http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/indent.html (for the record) |
| 23:39.45 | beardy | Epix: Well.. have you googled it, there probably is howto:s, or schematics, or other tips on how to accomplish that. |
| 23:39.55 | greycat | go to the beginning, press "ma" to set mark "a". go to the end, then type !'aindent<ENTER> |
| 23:40.12 | greycat | make sure you have indent installed. |
| 23:41.10 | antgel | 'a means to the mark a, i assume. and the !? |
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| 23:41.44 | greycat | antgel: "I'm about to take a movement command and a shell command and filter a block of stuff" |
| 23:42.51 | hyperstream | how can i tell what gcc version im using? |
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| 23:43.02 | greycat | gcc -v |
| 23:43.11 | hyperstream | nm |
| 23:43.17 | greycat | oh, they spelled it out. how stupid. |
| 23:43.32 | greycat | you have to search for "kernighan" and it's -kr instead of- k |
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| 23:43.48 | dondelelcaro | greycat: searching for K works eventually... |
| 23:43.58 | hyperstream | oo yeah, im compiling a cvs, and a few sites say that gcc 4.* has a bug etc, and i need to use gcc 3.* how can i change to this then change back to 4? |
| 23:44.07 | antgel | greycat: par for the course with anything vim-related. i'm a fan, but i can never quite force myself to abandon emacs for coding |
| 23:44.18 | dondelelcaro | hyperstream: so set CC or whatever the makefile uses to call the compiler appropriately. |
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| 23:44.25 | antgel | !tell hyperstream about alternatives |
| 23:44.34 | dondelelcaro | gag |
| 23:44.50 | dondelelcaro | there's no need to change the alternatives unless the Makefile is a pile of shit. |
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| 23:44.58 | greycat | alternatives won't help with gcc 3.3 vs 4.0 in debian |
| 23:45.00 | hyperstream | oo i see |
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| 23:45.16 | dondelelcaro | well, it can if it's being called with cc foo... but not gcc. |
| 23:45.19 | asuffield | greycat: the defaults for indent are 'gnu coding standards' values. everybody hates them |
| 23:45.30 | antgel | interesting. thought it would be a more permanent choice until gcc4 is fixed |
| 23:45.36 | asuffield | greycat: I believe the principle was that since nobody could agree on what style to use, they would invent one that was universally loathed |
| 23:45.37 | antgel | asuffield: not rms |
| 23:45.39 | nerdy2 | gcc4 is broken? |
| 23:45.45 | greycat | antgel: I compile ToME CVS on gcc 4.0 just fine. |
| 23:46.04 | greycat | asuffield: haha |
| 23:46.09 | dondelelcaro | nerdy2: there are some bugs, but for the most part its the code that's broken. |
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| 23:46.12 | antgel | greycat: i'm sure a lot of people are okay with it, but there seem to be a lot of teething problems too |
| 23:46.27 | nerdy2 | dondelelcaro: that's what i thought |
| 23:46.28 | hyperstream | hmm how do i get the version of a lower version of gcc thats on my box? |
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| 23:46.34 | black_13 | does the busybox modprobe support a 2.6 kernel |
| 23:46.35 | rking | p8m: these are the words that go "p" (8 letters) "m": paramecium patriotism peritoneum petrolatum plagiarism polytheism positivism postmortem postpartum pragmatism proscenium protoplasm puritanism |
| 23:46.37 | greycat | antgel: new libc and new gcc often expose old bugs in applications |
| 23:46.47 | antgel | greycat: *nod* |
| 23:46.50 | nerdy2 | hyperstream: run "gcc -V3.3" to run the earlier version |
| 23:46.51 | atom_z | this is wierd.. when nothing is playing i hear very faint noise through my headphones |
| 23:46.51 | greycat | hyperstream: gcc<TAB> |
| 23:47.00 | hyperstream | thanks guys |
| 23:47.00 | greycat | nerdy2: ITYM "gcc-3.3" |
| 23:47.05 | atom_z | (which I do not hear in windows, or when X isnt running) |
| 23:47.12 | dondelelcaro | hyperstream: install a different version, and just set CC=gcc-3.4 or whatever is appropriate for the makefile |
| 23:47.18 | nerdy2 | greycat: ITYM? and what's the difference, gcc -V3.3 should work? |
| 23:47.22 | antgel | atom_z: take headphones off |
| 23:47.25 | KingsRobot | Hello - does anyone know the proper way to force a given interface to become the default route on each reboot? (I.E. route add works find, but there's no sense doing it each boot) |
| 23:47.28 | greycat | griffon:~$ gcc -V3.3 -v |
| 23:47.28 | greycat | gcc: couldn't run 'i486-linux-gnu-gcc-3.3': No such file or directory |
| 23:47.33 | asuffield | atom_z: you probably have the mixer turned up for some unfiltered input channel that isn't connected to anything. microphone or some shit |
| 23:47.37 | greycat | griffon:~$ gcc-3.3 -v |
| 23:47.37 | greycat | Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.6/specs |
| 23:47.38 | greycat | ... |
| 23:47.42 | antgel | KingsRobot: man interfaces. |
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| 23:47.54 | asuffield | atom_z: in which case, what you're hearing is just background static noise |
| 23:48.01 | dondelelcaro | greycat:$ gcc -V3.3 |
| 23:48.02 | dondelelcaro | i486-linux-gnu-gcc-3.3: no input files |
| 23:48.17 | asuffield | dondelelcaro: why do you have a host named 'greycat'? |
| 23:48.23 | greycat | dondelelcaro: *shrug* doesn't work here. |
| 23:48.23 | asuffield | that's a little disturbing |
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| 23:48.42 | atom_z | asuffield, hmm |
| 23:48.44 | atom_z | asuffield, i see |
| 23:48.50 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 23:48.54 | dondelelcaro | greycat: strange, do you have gcc-3.3 installed? |
| 23:48.56 | AP03 | hi, can anyone tell me where I can add E to my gdm list of window mgrs? |
| 23:49.06 | greycat | ii gcc 4.0.1-2 The GNU C compiler |
| 23:49.06 | greycat | ii gcc-3.3 3.3.6-4 The GNU C compiler |
| 23:49.06 | greycat | ii gcc-4.0 4.0.1-6 The GNU C compiler |
| 23:49.07 | antgel | nah |
| 23:49.08 | dondelelcaro | asuffield: you don't want to know what hardware 'asuffield' is running on |
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| 23:49.20 | dondelelcaro | greycat: gcc-3.3: /usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-gcc-3.3 |
| 23:49.38 | maher | does anyone else using blackbox on unstable have the behaviour that the window cycle menu becomes 'sticky' and won't go away when you lift the alt-tab keys? |
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| 23:49.55 | dondelelcaro | (albiet, I am running 3.3.6-9 here...) |
| 23:50.00 | nerdy2 | [fwiw, gcc -V3.3 works here as well ... and it should work also on systems that don't use debian's gcc-version thing :)] |
| 23:50.02 | greycat | dpkg: *i486-linux-gnu-gcc-3* not found. |
| 23:50.22 | greycat | must be a difference from -4 to -9 |
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| 23:50.25 | nerdy2 | [and i'm on gcc-3.3 3.3.6-8] |
| 23:50.26 | dondelelcaro | greycat: yeah |
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| 23:50.37 | dondelelcaro | !+find usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-gcc-3.3 etch |
| 23:50.38 | black_13 | has anyone here hacked away at deboostrap |
| 23:50.39 | dondelelcaro | !+find usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-gcc-3.3 sarge |
| 23:50.39 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 23:50.50 | dondelelcaro | black_13: just ask your question |
| 23:50.51 | greycat | i486-linux-gcc-3.3 |
| 23:50.56 | atom_z | asuffield, dont think thats it... its still there with all input channels off |
| 23:50.57 | fwtest | how can i run an GUI programm which will be shown on windows client? |
| 23:50.57 | greycat | I'm missing the -gnu |
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| 23:51.01 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'usr/bin/i486-linux-gnu-gcc-3.3' returned no results. |
| 23:51.01 | dondelelcaro | (or use cdebootstrap) |
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| 23:51.16 | antgel | fwtest: wtf are you trying to do? |
| 23:51.21 | black_13 | i asked a question |
| 23:51.25 | asuffield | atom_z: try fiddling with some of the other levels. and make sure that if you're using alsa, you're using an alsa mixer |
| 23:51.30 | greycat | black_13: a poll. bad! |
| 23:51.34 | antgel | !tell black_13 about ask |
| 23:51.45 | fwtest | antgel, i am trying to run an apps, which then appears on windows client |
| 23:51.46 | dondelelcaro | black_13: you asked a question, but that wasn't the question that you actually wanted to ask. |
| 23:51.53 | TwistedEmotions | I dont know if you guys saw my screenshots or not... ovaici.homelinux.com/mplayer/ but anyways err.. Turns out only gmplayer works... mplayer doesnt works.. looks like it did with screenshots. Has nothing to do with firefox. |
| 23:51.53 | atom_z | asuffield, is arts alsa? |
| 23:52.01 | swim | hey folks, installed sarge from netinstall iso, during install i installed desktop enviro, after install i installed kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 and libc6-i686, rebooted again and installed nvidia-kernel-module with module-assistant. Finally i went into gdm and after a little while i get an unrecoverable freeze... need to hard-reboot, i tried reinstalling but same thing happppens... does this sound at all familiar to anyone? |
| 23:52.01 | antgel | fwtest: you just repeated yourself. |
| 23:52.08 | greycat | atom_z: no |
| 23:52.15 | asuffield | atom_z: that's userspace stuff. the kernel drivers will either be oss or alsa; arts could be using either |
| 23:52.17 | black_13 | nazis |
| 23:52.28 | hyperstream | this is using gcc 3.3 is there a code issue with this file: http://pastebin.com/348061 |
| 23:52.30 | greycat | where?! /me gets his chaingun |
| 23:52.35 | asuffield | if you use an oss mixer with alsa, you don't see half the channels |
| 23:52.40 | atom_z | asuffield, nono... i mean is kde's mixer an alsa mixer? |
| 23:52.44 | asuffield | hell if I know |
| 23:52.52 | black_13 | the debian soup nazis |
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| 23:53.00 | antgel | swim: is it always after the same time? can you log into your wm? try another wm? can you replicate it? |
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| 23:53.01 | fwtest | antgel, i have 10 windows client which connected to linux box, now can i run windows apps remotely on linux box? |
| 23:53.12 | atom_z | asuffield, ok, thanks |
| 23:53.19 | dondelelcaro | black_13: seriously, ask your real question already... insulting us will just get you devoiced. |
| 23:53.24 | nunez | I'm trying to install k3b on my sarge box, but it says I have unmet deps but it wont install them for some reason, should I force it? |
| 23:53.33 | antgel | black_13: how about you stop being abusive. i was this close to asking ops. |
| 23:53.42 | antgel | who are here anyway |
| 23:54.02 | maher | fwtest: what app do you wish to run - do you want to run a windows binary on linux? |
| 23:54.05 | nerdy2 | hyperstream: looks like it, see line 740 in that file |
| 23:54.08 | Analina | does g++ support dynamic cast? yeah? |
| 23:54.21 | black_13 | no i aske question and got flamed right away |
| 23:54.26 | rking | Analina: it has for... a decade? |
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| 23:54.31 | antgel | will someone sort him out |
| 23:54.38 | swim | antgel something like the same amount of time yes, i have managed to log in a couple of times but i get the freeze pretty soon afterwards, i havent tried another wm, and it happens every single time so it replicates |
| 23:54.54 | greycat | actually when I look at /lastlog black_13 I see two questions. it's the second one that's the bad one. |
| 23:55.04 | greycat | I missed the first one, but I can't answer it anyway |
| 23:55.08 | fwtest | maher, from linux, i have access to windows clients, now i want for example to shutdown the client |
| 23:55.29 | hyperstream | arg can nano 'go to line' ? |
| 23:55.30 | black_13 | i want to know if its possible with depackage to create someting like debootsrap |
| 23:55.30 | antgel | swim: try another wm for starters. when it hangs, do you need to hard reset? can you do a ctrl-alt-bs? |
| 23:55.54 | greycat | hyperstream: nano is like training wheels. |
| 23:56.00 | hyperstream | ahh |
| 23:56.04 | hyperstream | vi? |
| 23:56.06 | greycat | hyperstream: once you ask "can nano do ____" it's time to move to a real editor |
| 23:56.06 | swim | antgel_: yah i have to hard-reset nothing else works |
| 23:56.12 | dondelelcaro | black_13: debootstrap is just a set of scripts that bootstrap the Debian system; you can of course package it yourself. |
| 23:56.23 | rking | hyperstream: vim, yes. run vim-tutor |
| 23:56.24 | hyperstream | what would be a real editor |
| 23:56.30 | asuffield | emacs |
| 23:56.30 | hyperstream | kk |
| 23:56.30 | greycat | vim, emacs, etc. |
| 23:56.32 | rking | hyperstream: darnit, vimtutor |
| 23:56.39 | nunez | How do I go about fixing unmet dependencies? |
| 23:56.41 | antgel | swim: at this stage, i say try another wm, although if you need to hard reset it's not promising. is your hardware new? have you run memtest? |
| 23:56.42 | black_13 | i have used deboostrap i am thinkign of something smaller |
| 23:56.46 | greycat | nunez: install them |
| 23:56.53 | dondelelcaro | black_13: then try cdebootstrap -f minimal |
| 23:57.02 | black_13 | thanks!!!! |
| 23:57.09 | atom_z | this headphone noise is wierd, when I move the mouse it increases |
| 23:57.17 | swim | antgel_: its pretty new, but ive run other distros on it without any issues |
| 23:57.27 | greycat | atom_z: sound card's picking up internal RF noise inside the case |
| 23:57.32 | nunez | greycat: Its asking me to install "kdelibs4" but its referred by "kdelibs4c2" which I have but apt-get doesnt realize that |
| 23:57.44 | atom_z | greycat, any way to filter it? |
| 23:57.47 | greycat | atom_z: I've heard that with a soundblaster ISA PnP VIBRA 16X |
| 23:57.48 | asuffield | which is almost certainly due to having something turned up high which shouldn't be |
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| 23:57.56 | greycat | atom_z: went away when I got a better card. |
| 23:57.58 | maher | nunez: are you sure you're running sarge? |
| 23:58.18 | greycat | damned shift key... I meant to type ViBRA |
| 23:58.19 | hyperstream | nerdy2, ((char *)rtp)++; |
| 23:58.24 | nunez | maher: I have unstable in sources.list |
| 23:58.27 | hyperstream | i have no clue what this means LOL |
| 23:58.32 | maher | nunez: you are running unstable then |
| 23:58.34 | black_13 | i just hate being jumped on |
| 23:58.43 | atom_z | greycat, i see |
| 23:58.43 | greycat | hyperstream: whatever it means, it's very non-kosher. |
| 23:59.00 | atom_z | greycat, thanks |
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| 23:59.02 | dondelelcaro | black_13: you weren't being jumped upon. We get a few thousand questions every day. It's in your best interest not to waste our time. |
| 23:59.12 | antgel | swim: distro not so important for a hard lockup. i bet the kernel version is different. you could try turning off apic and/or acpi |
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| 23:59.25 | nunez | maher: How would I go about fixing this then? |
| 23:59.30 | greycat | black_13: "does anyone do ____" is a very bad question to ask here, and will get you the reaction you saw |
| 23:59.42 | C | can anyone help me in linux ( im new) |
| 23:59.46 | rking | hyperstream: http://pweb.netcom.com/~tjensen/ptr/pointers.htm |
| 23:59.47 | antgel | rofl |
| 23:59.49 | greycat | there's another example. |
| 23:59.50 | dondelelcaro | !tell C -about ask |
| 23:59.53 | swim | antgel_: maybe i could try installing a testing kernel-image package |
| 23:59.54 | antgel | black_13: you see that ^^^ |
| 23:59.54 | black_13 | then ignore me |
| 23:59.55 | maher | nunez: do you want to run sarge, or learn what a gcc transition is? |
