| 00:00.03 | antgel | abrotman: we can't really cook in the uk, but there are one or two exceptions and a good pub sunday roast is one of them |
| 00:00.19 | abrotman | antgel: i think i need to visit! |
| 00:00.21 | antgel | error403: imo yes |
| 00:00.22 | SlayerXP | abrotman: over my eviscerated body |
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| 00:00.25 | xhypno | I don't really like udev, doesn't like me much either |
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| 00:00.42 | antgel | i don't see how people get themselves into such a pickle with udev |
| 00:00.45 | abrotman | SlayerXP: you could switch to FBSD .. i heard if you have one of two mobos you can get FBSD6-beta installed :) |
| 00:01.07 | abrotman | antgel: agreed .. was easy for me |
| 00:01.12 | error403 | antgel, ill try that some time then, thanks! |
| 00:01.15 | xhypno | antgel: doesn't like my kernel patches for impi |
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| 00:01.20 | antgel | it's always the people with bleeding edge hardware and a system that is a heady mix of debian, ubuntu, knoppix, and source packages |
| 00:01.31 | SlayerXP | abrotman: I take this juncture to invite you to instigate carnal knowledge of yourself |
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| 00:02.08 | antgel | abrotman: you should visit. but beware. you need to know where to go for decent food. |
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| 00:02.26 | cusco | whats wrong with my backport repo line? :: |
| 00:02.26 | cusco | deb http://www.uk.backports.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 00:02.30 | xhypno | antgel: where do you live? |
| 00:02.31 | bai | anyone know what the deal is with lftp and ssl? why was ssl support removed from recent versions? |
| 00:02.40 | antgel | xhypno: uk |
| 00:02.44 | abrotman | SlayerXP: no? |
| 00:02.50 | abrotman | antgel: every pub? |
| 00:02.54 | xhypno | antgel: ahhhh, the other side of the pond |
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| 00:03.23 | antgel | abrotman: pubs are generally for drinkers. country pubs serve good food too. here in london, they pretend to be "country" and fool lots of idiots. |
| 00:03.29 | antgel | xhypno: you? |
| 00:03.38 | SlayerXP | abrotman: fbsd is like removing your underwear using nothing but a sharp blade and 27 litres of sulphuric acid |
| 00:03.42 | xhypno | antgel: South Florida |
| 00:04.21 | antgel | xhypno: interesting. i was thinking the other day that if i didn't run a business, i'd leave here for any of florida, california, australia or israel |
| 00:04.53 | cusco | whats wrong with my backport repo line? :: deb http://www.uk.backports.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 00:05.03 | xhypno | antgel: fl is not bad, just during the summer, the rain will get you |
| 00:05.06 | resiak | abrotman: Come see meeeeeeee |
| 00:05.15 | jason^ | am i supposed to use 2.6.8 or 2.6.11 if i'm using testing? |
| 00:05.17 | antgel | xhypno: i have been to florida as a kid. typical tourist stuff. also cruised the carribean, cozumel, etc |
| 00:05.18 | SlayerXP | cusco: technically or professionally? |
| 00:05.25 | litage | why is there a userdel *and* deluser program? |
| 00:05.39 | cusco | SlayerXP: technically |
| 00:05.45 | antgel | litage: adduser and deluser are perl wrapper scripts |
| 00:05.46 | resiak | litage: man userdel; man deluser. |
| 00:05.56 | litage | antgel: ah, thanks |
| 00:06.06 | bai | am I the only person in the world who uses FTPS, or what? I can't seem to find any kind of announcement or anything about lftp dropping SSL support |
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| 00:06.15 | antgel | bai: yes |
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| 00:06.25 | bai | hooray, I'm unique |
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| 00:06.27 | abrotman | resiak: come see me! |
| 00:06.30 | SlayerXP | cusco: well, technically, you're stupid enough to use random third party packages. |
| 00:06.35 | litage | resiak: i know the differences between the 2, but didn't understand why userdel exists since deluser does so much more |
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| 00:06.41 | xhypno | antgel:FL has alot of IT business, Affinity Internet, Verio, 1and1, Intel, Sun, Motorola, Cisco, Citrix, and a few more. FL gives tax breaks to IT corporations |
| 00:07.18 | antgel | xhypno: i've been corporate. never again. too cold and the idiots get promoted :) |
| 00:07.19 | cusco | SlayerXP: thanks. You're pretty stupid too for criticising me |
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| 00:07.34 | resiak | abrotman: I am! |
| 00:07.39 | abrotman | xhypno: you forgot the console company |
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| 00:07.57 | abrotman | resiak: you're coming to philly? |
| 00:08.07 | resiak | abrotman: Probably in January. |
| 00:08.10 | SlayerXP | cusco: that wasn't criticism, that was a technical assessment. I can do critisism if you like, however. |
| 00:08.12 | xhypno | antgel: lol. yeah. I work for Affinity and I know what you mean. |
| 00:08.13 | Rawplaye1 | what does this mean? |
| 00:08.17 | abrotman | antgel: the food there still has to be better than .us :) |
| 00:08.19 | abrotman | resiak: in philly? |
| 00:08.28 | antgel | xhypno: familiar with dilbert? so fucking true |
| 00:08.30 | Rawplaye1 | 02:06 < Rawplaye1> 219.134.73.23 - - [31/Aug/2005:01:32:10 +0200] "CONNECT 66.135.208.90:80 HTTP/1.1" 200 860 |
| 00:08.33 | Rawplaye1 | 02:06 < Rawplaye1> 219.134.73.23 - - [31/Aug/2005:01:32:11 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 860 |
| 00:08.36 | Rawplaye1 | 02:06 < Rawplaye1> 219.134.73.23 - - [31/Aug/2005:01:32:12 +0200] "GET http://www.ebay.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 860 |
| 00:08.36 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: i'm outside philly |
| 00:08.40 | Rawplaye1 | i see that inmy apache log files |
| 00:08.40 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: STOP |
| 00:08.42 | FieldySnuts | ~lart Rawplaye1 |
| 00:08.45 | cusco | SlayerXP: whatever |
| 00:08.46 | abrotman | so fucking what? |
| 00:08.46 | antgel | fucking hell |
| 00:08.48 | abrotman | it's your damn apache log |
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| 00:08.53 | xhypno | antel: yup, dogbert's taking over the world |
| 00:08.53 | resiak | abrotman: I can visit. |
| 00:08.55 | FieldySnuts | "hamstercrap" heh |
| 00:09.06 | sobersabre | kernel.org q: how do I know which kernel version shall I patch with patch-2.6.X ? |
| 00:09.15 | antgel | xhypno: i had a couple of dilbert books. used to read them over and marvel at accuracy |
| 00:09.16 | abrotman | resiak: you're going to CT still right? |
| 00:09.20 | resiak | abrotman: CT? |
| 00:09.21 | Rawplaye1 | abrotman: the log file from my website.. |
| 00:09.22 | sobersabre | can I patch any 2.6 ? |
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| 00:09.30 | Gathond | sobersabre: no |
| 00:09.31 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: so what .. someone accessed your website ? |
| 00:09.33 | xhypno | antgel:lol |
| 00:09.38 | sobersabre | So.... ? |
| 00:09.44 | Rawplaye1 | "GET http://www.ebay.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 |
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| 00:10.00 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: what's the IP of yourserver .. i'll fill your logs with requests for all kinds of stupid shit |
| 00:10.11 | phaedral | brain dead from playing with things that are over my head...but I could learn to love ratpoison |
| 00:10.18 | sobersabre | Gathond, how can I know ? |
| 00:10.20 | Rawplaye1 | its not that ip |
| 00:10.20 | antgel | abrotman: hard to say. been to ca and fl as a kid, food was amazing because when you're 14, it all is. went to new york last year for a wedding and was dismayed. worst. food. ever. |
| 00:10.23 | xhypno | well, I am out everyone. Gotta get out of the server room and back to my desk. I'll be back |
| 00:10.25 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: telnet YOURIP 80 |
| 00:10.37 | LordMyren | dear lrod, what the hell is going on. my WWW is /pooched/ |
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| 00:10.39 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: GET http://idontknowhowhttpworks.com/ |
| 00:10.41 | bai | "Yes. The sarge lftp version had it disabled because the license doesn't allow linking with openssl." bah |
| 00:10.45 | rudenstam | is it possible to liveboot debian ? |
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| 00:10.49 | antgel | Rawplaye1: at least tail -f the file to us, we might miss something |
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| 00:11.02 | abrotman | antgel: duh .. wedding :) |
| 00:11.06 | sobersabre | rudenstam, knopix is based on debian afaik... |
| 00:11.30 | sobersabre | as well is beatrix and other live CDs. |
| 00:11.35 | antgel | abrotman: oh no, the food was bad everywhere except for a good salmon cream cheese bagel |
| 00:11.41 | rudenstam | sobersabre: okey.. was just hoping I didn't need to download another cd :) |
| 00:11.47 | abrotman | antgel: those are always good :) |
| 00:11.51 | Gathond | sobersabre: dont really follow the current kernel scheme, but I believe a patch file to a new minor version expects the source to be patched to be the pristine prior version |
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| 00:11.55 | abrotman | antgel: philly has yummy places to eat! |
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| 00:11.56 | antgel | abrotman: even fucking mcdonalds, the king of crap food, is worse in it's homeland |
| 00:12.17 | sobersabre | Gathond, so, say, 2.6.13 patch is for 2.6.12 ? |
| 00:12.20 | Rawplaye1 | antgel: i also have this |
| 00:12.22 | abrotman | antgel: warmdaddys.com .. what a yummy menu |
| 00:12.22 | Rawplaye1 | i.have.been.k-lined.ws - - [18/Aug/2005:09:53:13 +0200] "POST http://64.18.142.110:5432/ HTTP/1.0" 200 860 |
| 00:12.25 | Rawplaye1 | i.have.been.k-lined.ws - - [18/Aug/2005:09:53:13 +0200] "CONNECT 64.18.142.110:5432 HTTP/1.0" 200 860 |
| 00:12.30 | Gathond | sobersabre: yes |
| 00:12.35 | sobersabre | OK, thanks. |
| 00:12.35 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: STOP FLOODING THE DAMN CHANNEL |
| 00:12.50 | Rawplaye1 | someone is having a bad day |
| 00:12.51 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: and i already told you how to do that |
| 00:12.52 | Gathond | sobersabre: the whole 2.6.12.something scheme might have changed this though |
| 00:12.57 | antgel | abrotman: but britain is trying to be america so our food is going downhill with our general culture :P |
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| 00:13.12 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: ffs .. you keep pasting here .. after being told not to .. are you mentally deficient? |
| 00:13.13 | antgel | Rawplaye1: you're crusin for a brusin |
| 00:13.40 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: would you like me to do the same? |
| 00:13.47 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: i can make entries like that in your logs too |
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| 00:14.13 | Rawplaye1 | but why are people doing that |
| 00:14.20 | dondelelcaro | Rawplaye1: because they can |
| 00:14.22 | _cw666_ | is there a debian gcc channel? |
| 00:14.26 | abrotman | Rawplaye1: because they love you? |
| 00:14.26 | antgel | Rawplaye1: maybe you annoyed them on irc? |
| 00:14.32 | Rawplaye1 | haha |
| 00:14.38 | Rawplaye1 | with flooding their channel |
| 00:14.39 | Rawplaye1 | :p |
| 00:14.47 | sobersabre | Gathond, what do you mean "might have" ... why ? |
| 00:15.00 | antgel | _cw666_: if there is it's #debian-gcc |
| 00:15.06 | _cw666_ | antgel: don't see one |
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| 00:15.16 | abrotman | _cw666_: why? |
| 00:15.17 | _cw666_ | anyone got any idea where gcc-3.2 went for debian? |
| 00:15.17 | antgel | _cw666_: you can ask here |
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| 00:15.31 | abrotman | _cw666_: away .. long time ago ? |
| 00:15.33 | _cw666_ | i'm after gcc-3.2 (no later) for debian |
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| 00:15.36 | dondelelcaro | _cw666_: it had bugs and has gone away. |
| 00:15.38 | Gathond | sobersabre: because the added one more number to the kernel numbering scheme, Im not that familiar with the new one and I rarely patch from one kernel version to another, I just fetch the whole thing |
| 00:15.45 | cusco | whats wrong with my backport repo line? :: deb http://www.uk.backports.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 00:15.51 | dondelelcaro | _cw666_: you may be able to find a copy on snapshot.debian.net |
| 00:16.01 | _cw666_ | old and buggy is fine for now |
| 00:16.11 | dondelelcaro | _cw666_: why exactly are you looking for it? |
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| 00:16.22 | _cw666_ | because some code we have here needs it, and nothing later |
| 00:16.24 | _cw666_ | for now anyhow |
| 00:16.31 | antgel | cusco: afaik backports.org recommends not putting its source in sources.list, rather manually downloading the debs you need |
| 00:16.32 | dondelelcaro | yeesh. fix the code |
| 00:16.37 | antgel | _cw666_: fix the code |
| 00:16.50 | SlayerXP | fixing code is just _so_ gay |
| 00:16.55 | abrotman | probably take less time to fix the code than get the compiler installed |
| 00:16.58 | _cw666_ | antgel: heh; not my code... this is political bullshit |
| 00:16.58 | abrotman | !tell SlayerXP about gay |
| 00:17.18 | abrotman | _cw666_: diebold? |
| 00:17.26 | SlayerXP | abrotman: perhaps you'll recognise mu _other_ troll outfit.. |
| 00:17.33 | antgel | _cw666_: reminds me of my corporate days. i could bore you to tears. the arguments about comments, nomenclature etc |
| 00:17.43 | _cw666_ | abrotman: hardly; if i worked for diebold i would kill myself now |
| 00:17.59 | antgel | SlayerXP: it's a little unforgiving around the waist |
| 00:18.32 | abrotman | !change SlayerXP |
| 00:18.35 | dpkg | that doesn't look right |
| 00:19.08 | derrick222222 | hi |
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| 00:22.21 | litage | besides looking through /etc/passwd and /etc/group, is there a way to determine if a particular user or group exists? |
| 00:22.43 | antgel | litage: not reliably |
| 00:22.44 | _cw666_ | id |
| 00:22.55 | _cw666_ | litage: defined exists |
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| 00:23.00 | _cw666_ | err, define even |
| 00:23.13 | abrotman | litage: yeah .. try to add them :) |
| 00:23.21 | litage | _cw666_: ?? |
| 00:23.28 | antgel | _cw666_: good shout methings |
| 00:23.32 | antgel | s/gs/ks |
| 00:23.36 | abrotman | _cw666_: that's pretty simple .. is or is not presetn |
| 00:23.41 | abrotman | present |
| 00:23.58 | derrick222222 | I'm having real difficulty getting synaptic to connect to any repository, after a lot of attempts connected once then nothing since.I'd apreciate any suggestions |
| 00:24.01 | _cw666_ | abrotman: well, it could exist in nss but not a local file for example |
| 00:24.33 | abrotman | _cw666_: he didn't mention nss or nis or ldap or anyhting else .. don't complicate it :) |
| 00:24.57 | antgel | derrick222222: what's the error? log? |
| 00:24.58 | atom-z | shit... anyone here read about msft's 'trusted computing' model? |
| 00:25.13 | abrotman | atom-z: they used glue i hope |
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| 00:25.35 | atom-z | its pretty scary stuff |
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| 00:26.25 | abrotman | atom-z: oh well ... shit happens |
| 00:28.05 | atom-z | well... read about it |
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| 00:28.18 | abrotman | no |
| 00:28.36 | derrick222222 | antgel: I get a message that it's timed out - couldn't stat package list |
| 00:28.45 | gentgeen__ | can I use /etc/email-addresses to map a valid email to a local user? ex. user@vaildemail.com:me@localhost.localdomain ? |
| 00:29.00 | abrotman | gentgeen__: man aliases |
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| 00:29.23 | antgel | derrick222222: do apt-get and aptitude work? |
| 00:29.28 | gentgeen__ | Ok, I thought aliases was only for local users -- cool, I will look at that |
| 00:29.31 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, thank |
| 00:29.55 | abrotman | gentgeen__: maybe i'm confused what you're asking for |
| 00:30.10 | derrick222222 | antgel : i'll check, back in 5 |
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| 00:31.06 | gentgeen__ | I want any mail sent to example@comcast.net to accually be sent to gentgeen@localhost.localdomain -- instead of heading out into the "real world" it would just stay local |
| 00:31.17 | abrotman | oh .. that i'm not sure |
| 00:31.32 | derrick222222 | antgel: aptitude failed |
| 00:31.35 | abrotman | you can certainly try it .. but that may depend on your MTA |
| 00:31.43 | abrotman | derrick222222: what host are you trying to connect to? |
| 00:31.49 | antgel | derrick222222: can you paste the errors in #flood |
| 00:32.33 | ryanakca | how do you install kernel-headers-* with dpkg --extract or --install? |
| 00:33.16 | derrick222222 | antgel: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free, but i've tried others too |
| 00:33.46 | antgel | derrick222222: and you do an apt-get update after changing mirror? |
| 00:33.47 | abrotman | does dns work at all? |
| 00:35.01 | derrick222222 | antgel: ah no, is that where I'm messing up ? |
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| 00:35.38 | antgel | try it |
| 00:35.43 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:36.01 | antgel | derrick222222: i think you're messing up with all those 2s in your nick |
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| 00:36.14 | nvz | yay! I found an 80GB HD to backup to :) |
| 00:36.55 | abrotman | nvz: now your porn will be safe from the judge! |
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| 00:37.10 | magyar_ | do we still have to athenticate to the nickserv? |
| 00:37.12 | grendal_prime | ok i need to fire up a mount on boot of the machine |
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| 00:37.28 | grendal_prime | after the network card comes up |
| 00:37.33 | grendal_prime | and as a specific user |
| 00:38.14 | grendal_prime | ive tried putting this in the if-up event, but it always wants to mount the remote dir as root, and that doe not work |
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| 00:38.30 | abrotman | man mount;man fstab |
| 00:38.32 | grendal_prime | i use to do this in the rc.local file of the redhat machines..but debian |
| 00:38.56 | grendal_prime | abrotman, that will not work, fstab comes up before the networkcard is initialized |
| 00:39.14 | nvz | abrotman: I actually found some porn in a dir I didnt realize I had last night /home/nvz/nvz/.nvz/home/home/nvz/ has some porn in it |
| 00:39.20 | abrotman | grendal_prime: don't mount it auto .. |
| 00:39.23 | dvs | grendal_prime: That's what the "pass" column is for |
| 00:39.29 | abrotman | grendal_prime: then in your if-up .. mount it |
| 00:39.35 | antgel | grendal_prime: not if you provide options to mount for user |
| 00:39.36 | grendal_prime | Unless there is some way of starting the network card before |
| 00:39.41 | abrotman | nvz: you're hiding porn from yourself? |
| 00:40.03 | antgel | nvz: you're hiding porn from us? |
| 00:40.10 | grendal_prime | abrotman, the if-up mounts it as root.. |
| 00:40.17 | grendal_prime | its an shfs mount |
| 00:40.24 | nvz | abrotman: I got like 15GB or so cartoons about 10GB Television, about 7GB music, probably 5GB of windows freeware I share with the windows boxes utilities and such |
| 00:40.28 | grendal_prime | even if i use the -u option |
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| 00:40.37 | derrick222222 | antgel: came up - could not connect to mirror.ox.ac.uk:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out |
| 00:40.49 | grendal_prime | and antgel i have the mount for user option |
| 00:40.54 | abrotman | grendal_prime: not if you specify uid in the fstab .. man mount man fstab |
| 00:41.05 | abrotman | nvz: you keep weird stuff :) |
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| 00:41.21 | grendal_prime | its shfs mount. |
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| 00:41.47 | ryanakca | has anyone here successfully installed wacom's graphire 3 on debian? |
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| 00:42.25 | nvz | abrotman: my home dir is about 20GB |
| 00:42.53 | nvz | abrotman: all that other stuff is in /srv/samba/guest a folder shared with all samba clients |
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| 00:43.35 | abrotman | nvz: you share your porn? |
| 00:43.38 | abrotman | !wacom |
| 00:43.39 | dpkg | somebody said wacom was 'man 4 wacom'; or /usr/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Wacom-USB-mini-HOWTO.html; They are graphics tablets :), or for debian specific help check out http://www.i3s.unice.fr/~ol/success.html |
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| 00:43.58 | nvz | abrotman: no my home dir isnt shared. :P |
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| 00:44.08 | sword | what's going on |
| 00:44.09 | nvz | abrotman: only home dir's in /srv/samba are shared |
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| 00:44.26 | antgel | derrick222222: what abrotman said |
| 00:44.27 | sword | hmm |
| 00:44.45 | abrotman | i did? |
| 00:44.47 | sword | im having big trouble /w my filesystem |
| 00:44.57 | nvz | I got tons of source and souce tarballs and kernel packages and all kinds of crap in my home dir |
| 00:44.58 | abrotman | is it reiser? |
| 00:45.02 | sword | my / directory is almost full for some reason |
| 00:45.04 | sword | abrotman: no xfs |
| 00:45.05 | nvz | I need to delete nearly all of it |
| 00:45.15 | antgel | !tell sword about disk space |
| 00:45.17 | sword | i did a du -h on all my directories |
| 00:45.22 | nvz | I dont clean up after my builds |
| 00:45.25 | abrotman | nvz: rm! |
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| 00:45.51 | sword | ahh |
| 00:45.54 | nvz | I also got a lot of ISO files and logs in my homedir |
| 00:45.57 | sword | lets see |
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| 00:46.03 | concept10 | I need some help/device: What factors decide how robust a servers capabilty will be? apache2/php4 on sarge .. memory? RAID? Filesystem type? processor speed |
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| 00:47.24 | abrotman | nvz: rm! |
| 00:47.35 | abrotman | concept10: compatilbility with what? |
| 00:47.50 | dvs | capability |
| 00:47.59 | sword | hmm |
| 00:48.01 | sword | this doesnt make sense |
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| 00:48.44 | derrick222222 | antgel: sorry lost the thread re abrotman |
| 00:48.55 | antgel | derrick222222: does your dns work? |
| 00:48.55 | abrotman | say what? |
| 00:48.58 | concept10 | capacity, capabilty... whatever ... I want to launch a website on one of the servers I own, I want to measure how robust they will be |
| 00:48.59 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 00:49.11 | abrotman | concept10: specs are? |
| 00:49.17 | FieldySnuts | better make it secure first |
| 00:49.17 | resiak | "Step one: do not use PHP." ? :) |
| 00:49.20 | nvz | I wonder why in the hell when I open cfdisk its got a grey background and white flashing text... |
| 00:49.23 | FieldySnuts | resiak: exactly |
| 00:49.34 | nvz | I dont think I can trust using this program like this |
| 00:49.39 | abrotman | PHP has nothing to do with the robustness of the server |
| 00:49.40 | derrick222222 | antgel: not sure it's running ? |
| 00:49.54 | concept10 | abrotman: 1st box: 333 celeron, 768 mb ram ----- crap or not? |
| 00:50.01 | abrotman | concept10: how many clients? |
| 00:50.27 | abrotman | are you talking a real website .. or just something you muck with? |
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| 00:50.36 | concept10 | a real site |
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| 00:51.13 | deadcat | concept10: thats shit. |
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| 00:51.22 | antgel | derrick222222: you're not sure? nslookup www.bored.com? |
| 00:51.30 | nvz | hmm it only happens when I run cfdisk in screen. if I run it from tty1 its normal white on black. but if I run it from screen its flashing white on gray |
| 00:51.41 | concept10 | I also have a dual p3 533 box with raid, that I havent configured yet, I just want to get the site live and move to somewhere else once I get the community |
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| 00:52.12 | abrotman | concept10: and where will you host it ? |
| 00:52.25 | antgel | behind a 56k modem |
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| 00:52.28 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:52.36 | abrotman | antgel: you upgraded his line! |
| 00:52.57 | concept10 | I have a dedicated comcast line |
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| 00:53.11 | lu | greetings debian guru's. |
| 00:53.27 | derrick222222 | antgel: timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 00:53.31 | nvz | salut |
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| 00:53.47 | ryanakca | where can I find kernel headers for kernel 2.6.12.5? |
| 00:53.49 | concept10 | I need some real advice, not sarcasm.. |
| 00:53.52 | abrotman | concept10: iirc .. if they catch you running a server.. and they do block :80 .. they will disconnect you |
| 00:54.02 | lu | what kind of prob. would i have if i create users and i can't login on that account via ssh |
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| 00:54.22 | FieldySnuts | if you wanna run servers get business class ISP service. residential sucks and they usually have stuff in their AUP about you doing that. |
| 00:54.24 | abrotman | why do we get so many gentoo people? |
| 00:54.26 | concept10 | abrotman: they can do that? |
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| 00:54.43 | nvz | lu: sounds like you would have a problem logging into ssh as that user. |
| 00:54.46 | antgel | derrick222222: fix your dns |
| 00:54.46 | bob2 | ryanakca: is that in Debian? |
| 00:54.48 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: moreon is fine |
| 00:54.49 | abrotman | concept10: damn right they can .. check your contract .. i *know* comcast blocks 80 .. and if they catch you .. they can terminate your service |
| 00:54.58 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: no .. i don't care .. i'm just asking :) |
| 00:55.02 | FieldySnuts | comcast WILL kill your account |
| 00:55.09 | ryanakca | yes |
| 00:55.09 | FieldySnuts | and they block inbound port 80 anyway |
| 00:55.10 | abrotman | but this place is definitely going to the rodents |
| 00:55.11 | ryanakca | for debian |
| 00:55.14 | lu | yes |
| 00:55.17 | antgel | concept10: here you get advice and sarcasm :) |
| 00:55.18 | anapivirtua_ | tu veut du sexe ? /send agony |
| 00:55.23 | lu | i don't know why though.. it's so strange |
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| 00:55.32 | abrotman | is that spam? or a request for help ? |
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| 00:55.38 | abrotman | !fr |
| 00:55.38 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 00:56.05 | antgel | :q |
| 00:56.08 | antgel | doh |
| 00:56.11 | concept10 | I guess maybe we could start of using a shared host, I just dont want to pay for a dedicated server at this time |
| 00:56.13 | stew | lu: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 00:56.20 | stew | lu: and try ssh -v from the client side |
| 00:56.31 | lu | thanks stew you rock |
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| 00:57.08 | derrick222222 | antgel: ok will give it my best shot. thanks for your patience |
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| 00:57.53 | resiak | concept10: How much traffic are you anticipating? |
| 00:58.03 | abrotman | was .. that a split? |
| 00:58.17 | resiak | Yes. |
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| 00:59.02 | metaperl | i just installed xzip... any pointers on getting zork to run? |
| 00:59.13 | metaperl | ie, where to get it, etc, etc |
| 00:59.26 | concept10 | resiak: 1000-5000 initialy |
| 00:59.40 | resiak | And you're hosting this on a home DSL... |
| 00:59.40 | nvz | wtf is xzip and zork and what do they have to do with each other |
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| 01:00.00 | bob2 | I'm pretty sure zork is non-free |
| 01:00.45 | concept10 | resiak: cable (comcast) |
| 01:00.59 | resiak | concept10: Ooh, I'm quaking in my little space boots. |
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| 01:01.43 | concept10 | LOL |
| 01:01.58 | kingsley_ | Which package, if any, replaced "dejasearch"? |
| 01:02.08 | concept10 | resiak: I not trying to serve NASA TV live you know.. :) |
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| 01:02.43 | resiak | Just get a shared host... |
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| 01:04.02 | concept10 | alright, thanks for the advice. <_< |
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| 01:06.17 | _cw666_ | dondelelcaro: snapshot.debian.net is giving me 404 errors :( |
| 01:06.23 | _cw666_ | dondelelcaro: am i SoL for 3.2 then? |
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| 01:09.35 | abrotman | _cw666_: part of the snapshot archive was lost a while ago |
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| 01:10.06 | antgel | _cw666_: if you need it that badly, build it |
| 01:10.15 | astronut | how do you get find to match one of two -name patterns? |
| 01:10.24 | antgel | astronut: man find (-o) |
| 01:10.25 | bob2 | -name foo -o -name bar |
| 01:10.31 | astronut | ah, ok |
| 01:10.32 | astronut | was reading it |
| 01:10.34 | astronut | didnt' see -o |
| 01:11.08 | dondelelcaro | astronut: you'll find that the info documentation for find is probably more complete too |
| 01:11.50 | astronut | dondelelcaro: probably..i have never gotten in the habit of using info |
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| 01:12.54 | bob2 | gnu people are allergic to groff |
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| 01:13.29 | Daffy-PKF | can someone help me please? each time i boot, my /etc/resolv.conf is overwriten (i have the dns from internet provider, and not the configuration i want), what are the scripts that do that? |
| 01:13.41 | bob2 | install dhcp3-client |
| 01:13.48 | bob2 | edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 01:13.51 | bob2 | profit! |
| 01:13.57 | _cw666_ | abrotman: i found it for 2005/03/13 which will do for now |
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| 01:14.06 | dondelelcaro | bob2: that, and writing in texi is adictive |
| 01:14.06 | _cw666_ | antgel: if that doesnt work ill have to :( |
| 01:14.10 | _cw666_ | thanks all |
| 01:14.23 | dondelelcaro | too bad it's not terribly suited to manpages |
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| 01:15.10 | squisher | Hi, I have a testing installation, have security.debian.org in the sources.list , but when I do apt-get install php4 (which had a recent problem), it says the newest version is already installed (but testing has version < security!) |
| 01:15.28 | dvs | squisher: There is no security for testing |
| 01:15.32 | squisher | It seems as if it doesn't see the security updates, but I really wonder why. |
| 01:15.47 | squisher | dvs: I know, but can't I just install the ones for stable? |
| 01:16.01 | dvs | squisher: no |
| 01:16.02 | bob2 | yes, but not automatically |
| 01:16.03 | abrotman | _cw666_: ok |
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| 01:16.09 | bob2 | well, yes = usually |
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| 01:16.50 | squisher | dvs: why not? Maybe with some apt-pinning? I'm sorry but I think there's something I don't understand about apt that causes this :-\ |
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| 01:17.07 | squisher | bob2: why not? I think apt just looks for the newest version |
| 01:17.11 | bob2 | why would apt install it? |
| 01:17.16 | bob2 | the version is lower |
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| 01:18.06 | unixfool_ | dpkg, sarge firefox |
| 01:18.40 | squisher | bob2: no, it's not: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=php4&searchon=names&version=all&release=all |
| 01:19.37 | astronut | what's the easiest way to find duplicate files? |
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| 01:20.08 | dondelelcaro | dpkg's server got stoned, so it will be a second before it comes back |
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| 01:21.31 | FieldySnuts | "everybody must get stoned!" |
| 01:21.38 | DoppelGanger | now |
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| 01:21.46 | Daffy-PKF | please, can someone help? i get upset that /etc/resolv.conf is modified each time i boot |
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| 01:21.50 | dvs | !wb |
| 01:21.50 | dpkg | thanks, dvs. It's good to be back. |
| 01:22.01 | FieldySnuts | then tell your dhcp client not to do it |
| 01:22.03 | DoppelGanger | Daffy-PKF: are you getting your ip via dhcp |
| 01:22.09 | dondelelcaro | Daffy-PKF: it's not unusual for it to be modfied. If that's a problem, use resolvconf |
| 01:22.12 | dvs | Daffy-PKF: You already got an answer |
| 01:22.13 | Daffy-PKF | DoppelGanger> no |
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| 01:22.42 | Daffy-PKF | dvs> when? i disn't see it sorry |
| 01:22.45 | cappicard | hmm... anyone know the X11 protocol for an ADB mouse? |
| 01:23.13 | squisher | bob2: do you see? php4 currently has a higher version in stable than in testing. |
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| 01:24.00 | sword | whats the application that helps you install packages on debian |
| 01:24.03 | sword | not apt-get but similar |
| 01:24.06 | sword | dselect? |
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| 01:24.12 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:24.18 | devrethman | tasksel? |
| 01:24.22 | dvs | sword: that's one |
| 01:24.35 | dvs | sword: I like synaptic myself |
| 01:24.36 | sword | hehe |
| 01:24.42 | sword | sorry it slipped my mind for a sec |
| 01:24.47 | sword | you sit at a prompt |
| 01:24.49 | sword | forget a command |
| 01:24.52 | sword | then it comes back to you |
| 01:24.55 | dvs | apt-get? |
| 01:25.02 | devrethman | i know the feeling |
| 01:25.05 | devrethman | aptitude |
| 01:25.06 | devrethman | ? |
| 01:25.09 | sword | nah i was thinking dselect |
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| 01:25.11 | sword | thanks hehe |
| 01:25.21 | dvs | !beer sword |
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| 01:25.29 | Overfiend | Postfix problem. 216.37.46.189 is configured to act as a relay for 65.26.182.85, and has been restarted since the change was made, but it still rejects connections. |
| 01:25.29 | sword | anyone here had experience fscking a xfs? |
| 01:25.32 | Overfiend | Aug 30 20:15:16 localhost postfix/smtp[25943]: connect to necrotic.deadbeast.net[216.37.46.189]: Connection refused (port 25) |
| 01:25.35 | Overfiend | Aug 30 20:15:16 localhost postfix/smtp[25943]: 1BB6168C09F: to=<314425@bugs.debian.org>, relay=none, delay=0, status=deferred (connect to necrotic.deadbeast.net[216.37.46.189]: Connection refused) |
| 01:25.39 | sword | im getting some fucked up file system problems |
| 01:25.59 | dvs | sword: Like what? |
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| 01:26.22 | sword | well |
| 01:26.31 | sword | it is saying im using 7.5 gigs on my / partition |
| 01:26.33 | sword | when i reality |
| 01:26.39 | sword | (from du and df |
| 01:26.42 | sword | im using a lot less |
| 01:26.44 | dondelelcaro | Overfiend: is 25 open on 216.37.46.189? |
| 01:26.52 | Overfiend | yup. |
| 01:26.54 | Overfiend | Try it yourself :) |
| 01:26.56 | astronut | what's the easiest way to find duplicate files in a directory tree? |
| 01:27.01 | Daffy-PKF | dondelelcaro> why resolvconf? can't i just find what scripts are modifying my resolv.conf and don't allow them to run? |
| 01:27.05 | Overfiend | whoops! |
| 01:27.06 | Overfiend | eh? |
| 01:27.06 | dondelelcaro | Overfiend: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 01:27.10 | peterS | astronut: what do you mean by duplicate files? |
| 01:27.11 | Overfiend | the fuck? |
| 01:27.15 | perdenab_ | in debian sarge 2.6.8-2-386, all my sounds work fine via player apps, but the gnome desktop sounds do not play. the files that are referred to exist, and can be played from other apps, but do not play in the desktop, even when forced from gnome-sound-properties |
| 01:27.16 | peterS | astronut: duplicate names? duplicate contents? |
| 01:27.17 | perdenab_ | anyone know what's going on? KDE desktop sounds work fine, but i prefer gnome |
| 01:27.24 | astronut | peterS: contents |
| 01:27.29 | Overfiend | dondelelcaro: I wonder if it didn't actually succeed in restarting, but didn't tell me. |
| 01:27.32 | Overfiend | grrrr |
| 01:27.41 | peterS | astronut: I'd do 'find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum | sort' |
| 01:27.44 | dondelelcaro | Overfiend: figures |
| 01:28.11 | peterS | astronut: then look at the list and see the dupes |
| 01:28.17 | Overfiend | postfix is failing to start, but invoke-rc.d pretends like everything is okay |
| 01:28.21 | peterS | astronut: if you want to automate this further it's a simple exercise in scripting |
| 01:28.32 | astronut | peterS: ya |
| 01:28.36 | Overfiend | someone is getting a serious bug about this. I'm *sure* it's against policy somewhere for an init script to lie |
| 01:29.02 | dondelelcaro | Overfiend: heh |
| 01:29.23 | abrotman | maybe it's crashing after it starts? |
| 01:29.29 | Overfiend | that's odd. |
| 01:29.31 | Overfiend | It's up now. |
| 01:29.33 | abrotman | apache does the same thing if SSL config is biffed |
| 01:29.37 | Overfiend | It's like dpkg-reconfigure forgot to restart it. |
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| 01:29.41 | devrethman | what do i need to install to get ./configure's to stop saying configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in autoconf ./autoconf |
| 01:29.43 | Overfiend | oh, wait. |
| 01:29.44 | devrethman | immediately |
| 01:29.51 | Overfiend | user error. |
| 01:30.06 | Overfiend | dpkg-reconfigure did stop it. But I CTRL-Ced it when I realized I hadn't used debconf to configure postfix on that box. |
| 01:30.13 | abrotman | !b-e devrethman |
| 01:30.13 | Overfiend | I then hand-edited the postfix config files. |
| 01:30.14 | dpkg | devrethman: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 01:30.17 | Overfiend | But never restarted it. |
| 01:30.19 | Overfiend | d'oh! |
| 01:30.22 | devrethman | thanks |
| 01:30.28 | devrethman | knew it was something stupid and obvious |
| 01:30.48 | abrotman | devrethman: hopefully |
| 01:30.55 | devrethman | that was it |
| 01:30.57 | Overfiend | dondelelcaro: see, now I avoided embarrassing myself on #debian-devel *and* #postfix :) |
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| 01:31.02 | devrethman | it's a chroot i creates like 2 hours ago |
| 01:31.09 | devrethman | it's got practically nothing on it |
| 01:31.11 | Overfiend | and ps -fC postfix is not how one finds postfix processes, damnit |
| 01:31.39 | devrethman | ummmm.... it's still doing it |
| 01:32.24 | Overfiend | new problem, though |
| 01:32.24 | Overfiend | <branden@debian.org>: host necrotic.deadbeast.net[216.37.46.189] said: 554 |
| 01:32.25 | Overfiend | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.48 | Overfiend | relaying *doesn't* work. |
| 01:32.58 | Overfiend | Okay, now that I've cleared out the moronic error, I'll maybe ask #postfix. |
| 01:33.00 | dondelelcaro | heh; that one I can't really help you with |
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| 01:33.27 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: don't you feel dirry? |
| 01:33.30 | abrotman | dirty too |
| 01:33.38 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: m4 baybee! |
| 01:33.41 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:33.48 | abrotman | i dumped qmail in favor of postfix ... |
| 01:34.13 | abrotman | but i've done my sendmail days ... and on solaris too! |
| 01:34.33 | Leomar | How I know what line I need to put in the sources.list to make possible download the "source" of a program by apt-get ? |
| 01:34.58 | abrotman | deb-src |
| 01:35.29 | k-man | is there a way of finding out which display layout I'm using in X from a shell script? |
| 01:35.30 | abrotman | !deb-src |
| 01:35.31 | dpkg | it has been said that deb-src is 'deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free' and 'deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free' |
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| 01:35.37 | abrotman | bah |
| 01:35.51 | abrotman | !deb-src =~ s# and 'deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free'## |
| 01:35.51 | dpkg | abrotman: too drastic change of factoid. |
| 01:35.51 | dpkg | abrotman: OK |
| 01:35.55 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:35.57 | Overfiend | dondelelcaro: #postfix is not being terribly helpful :( |
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| 01:36.02 | abrotman | dpkg: did you do it or not! |
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| 01:36.13 | k-man | i want to write a script that will detect if X is running on my TV and start Mythtv frontend if it is |
| 01:36.17 | dondelelcaro | !deb-sc |
| 01:36.19 | dondelelcaro | !deb-src |
| 01:36.19 | dpkg | methinks deb-src is 'deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free' |
| 01:36.25 | abrotman | yes he did .. i checked in msg |
| 01:36.28 | abrotman | but that was confusing |
| 01:36.32 | dondelelcaro | heh; that's a new silly messaegs |
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| 01:36.58 | abrotman | postfix has to be set to relay in certain ways .. by IP is one .. |
| 01:37.41 | Overfiend | abrotman: well... |
| 01:37.43 | Overfiend | 20:33 < Overfiend> main.cf:relay_domains = 24.166.21.67, 65.26.182.85, $mydestination |
| 01:37.46 | Overfiend | 20:33 < Overfiend> that's all I need to relay, right? |
| 01:37.48 | Overfiend | 20:34 < Overfiend> If I've restarted postfix but it still bounces mail from 65.26.182.85, what might be wrong? |
| 01:37.51 | Overfiend | 20:35 < Overfiend> Aug 30 20:29:16 necrotic postfix/smtpd[3310]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from cpe-65-26-182-85.indy.res.rr.com[65.26.182.85]: 554 <branden@debian.org>: Relay access denied; from=<branden@redwald.deadbeast.net> to=<branden@debian.org> proto=ESMTP |
| 01:37.53 | abrotman | Overfiend: i hope you're one of those IPs |
| 01:37.55 | Overfiend | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:37.59 | Overfiend | yup. |
| 01:38.03 | abrotman | Overfiend: keep it up .. debhelper will get you! |
| 01:38.12 | Overfiend | hah. I've got immunity! |
| 01:38.16 | abrotman | no way! |
| 01:38.57 | xsquared | hi, if i installed the nvidia drivers could i change the resolution to something higher than what i have now? |
| 01:39.06 | abrotman | Overfiend: my_networks ? |
| 01:39.10 | Overfiend | dondelelcaro: yeah, but I've gotten it laid since |
| 01:39.16 | abrotman | err mynetworks |
| 01:39.25 | Daveman | hey dondelelcaro :) |
| 01:39.29 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: sup |
| 01:39.42 | abrotman | mynetworks_style = host |
| 01:39.47 | abrotman | mynetworks = IP,IP |
| 01:39.52 | abrotman | though .. my postfix install is also old |
| 01:40.02 | Daveman | dondelelcaro, the spambots still at it here? :\ |
| 01:40.12 | abrotman | you can also do style = subnet .. and then do your IP/32 etc |
| 01:40.26 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: probably |
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| 01:41.20 | xsquared | how can i install the nvidia drivers for my TNT2 card? |
| 01:41.28 | pabs3 | xsquared: I've found the opposite - the nv driver gave me a higher res than nvidia |
| 01:41.34 | abrotman | xsquared: the nv driver should work |
| 01:41.51 | xsquared | but how do i get it? |
| 01:42.00 | dvs | xsquared: you already have it |
| 01:42.18 | xsquared | so how do i configure it? |
| 01:42.19 | Daveman | dondelelcaro, oh well - what's up, otherwise? :p |
| 01:42.20 | abrotman | yeah .. my postfix is so old .. it's still 1.x |
| 01:42.38 | abrotman | !drxx xsquared |
| 01:42.39 | dpkg | xsquared: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:42.43 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: not much, just working as usual |
| 01:42.55 | Daveman | heh, yeah me too |
| 01:43.16 | abrotman | work? |
| 01:43.26 | abrotman | !work |
| 01:43.27 | dpkg | i guess work is a great place to play network games like Quake against your friends..... an improper way of saying funzionirt! Work at what? Do the dishes? Clean your room?, or see play =-) |
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| 01:44.47 | Rucas | which package provides "strings"? |
| 01:44.55 | abrotman | !tell Rucas about search |
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| 01:45.25 | Rucas | i know how to use apt-cache |
| 01:45.34 | abrotman | use apt-file ? |
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| 01:45.43 | xsquared | and how do i check what resolution im running at now? |
| 01:45.44 | abrotman | or use the bot |
| 01:45.46 | abrotman | !find bin/strings |
| 01:45.51 | abrotman | Rucas: get it ? |
| 01:46.05 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/strings' (3): (/usr/arm-palmos/bin/strings) in otherosfs/prc-tools-arm ;; (/usr/m68k-palmos/bin/strings) in otherosfs/prc-tools-m68k ;; (/usr/bin/strings) in devel/binutils,devel/binutils-multiarch. |
| 01:46.10 | abrotman | xsquared: xdpyinfo |
| 01:46.12 | dondelelcaro | xsquared: xdpyinfo |
| 01:46.14 | xsquared | thanks |
| 01:46.22 | Rucas | cool |
| 01:46.26 | Rucas | that's pretty neat |
| 01:46.35 | abrotman | Rucas: and next time .. you'll read the whole factoid :) |
| 01:46.39 | xsquared | 1280x960 |
| 01:46.42 | Rucas | heh |
| 01:46.45 | xsquared | i doesn't seem like that |
| 01:46.49 | xsquared | :'-( |
| 01:46.53 | Rucas | i wonder why i don't have bimutils or less |
| 01:46.55 | abrotman | i or it? |
| 01:47.01 | xsquared | it |
| 01:47.11 | abrotman | why not? |
| 01:47.17 | abrotman | Rucas: because they aren't installed by default? |
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| 01:47.25 | Rucas | i thought they were |
| 01:47.27 | xsquared | cause everything still looks larger than my laptop |
| 01:47.35 | abrotman | Rucas: i know less isn't |
| 01:47.38 | xsquared | and my laptop is on 1024x768 |
| 01:47.39 | abrotman | binutils shold be |
| 01:47.45 | abrotman | afaik anyways |
| 01:47.56 | abrotman | xsquared: i'm confused |
| 01:48.07 | dvs | abrotman: virtual desktop? |
| 01:48.22 | abrotman | dvs: i had cheese for lunch today! |
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| 01:49.09 | xsquared | im on my desktop with a nvidia tnt2 card set on 1280x960 but everything looks larger on my monitor than on my laptop and my laptop is on 1024x768 |
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| 01:49.38 | abrotman | because your monitor is bigger? |
| 01:49.41 | devrethman | there's something wierd going on here:oni:/usr/src/StepMania-3.9-rc3-src# ./configure |
| 01:49.41 | devrethman | configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in autoconf ./autoconf |
| 01:49.41 | devrethman | oni:/usr/src/StepMania-3.9-rc3-src# ls autoconf |
| 01:49.41 | devrethman | config.guess config.sub depcomp install-sh m4 missing mkinstalldirs |
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| 01:49.48 | dvs | xsquared: Define "looks larger" |
| 01:49.56 | xsquared | like a larger resolution |
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| 01:50.14 | dvs | xsquared: The desktop won't fit on the screen? |
| 01:50.31 | xsquared | it does but everything is larger ie. fonts |
| 01:50.42 | abrotman | devrethman: apt-get install libtool ? |
| 01:50.57 | devrethman | that got through? |
| 01:51.07 | abrotman | devrethman: part of it |
| 01:51.12 | abrotman | devrethman: btw .. DON"T paste here :) |
| 01:51.15 | xsquared | on my laptop, fonts look smaller than on my desktop and my desktop is on a larger resolution (1280x960) |
| 01:51.16 | drp | #flood |
| 01:51.16 | devrethman | i noticed |
| 01:51.21 | abrotman | !paste |
| 01:51.21 | dpkg | hmm... paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 01:51.26 | FieldySnuts | ~irritate devrethman |
| 01:51.27 | apt | devrethman: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol ????? |
| 01:51.28 | kingsley_ | What's a good way to search for old usenet posts, besides Google, which has restrictive terms of service? |
| 01:51.39 | drp | !fruitsmite devrethman |
| 01:51.46 | abrotman | kingsley_: there are terms of service? |
| 01:51.46 | devrethman | -__- |
| 01:51.53 | devrethman | oranges! |
| 01:51.55 | kingsley_ | abrotman: Yes. |
| 01:52.04 | abrotman | kingsley_: unless your ISP gives you access .. that's alli know of |
| 01:52.06 | drp | : ) |
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| 01:52.17 | abrotman | and even then .. they rarely have the archive that google does |
| 01:53.19 | devrethman | ok, i got it, I didn't have the right version of automake... |
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| 01:53.30 | abrotman | stupid autotools |
| 01:53.44 | Rucas | wow |
| 01:53.46 | Rucas | i'm missing GCC and libc headers and gmake |
| 01:53.52 | abrotman | !b-e Rucas |
| 01:53.52 | dpkg | Rucas: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 01:54.25 | Rucas | iirc this should've all been installed with the base system |
| 01:54.42 | abrotman | b-e is not |
| 01:54.44 | dvs | Rucas: No, not necessarily |
| 01:54.55 | Rucas | well i really messed up this install anyways |
| 01:55.27 | abrotman | !lose Rucas |
| 01:55.27 | dpkg | Rucas: You Lose. |
| 01:55.30 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:55.43 | roboncod | soon osama bin laden at navstriketestron with Phated using the sword of allah at artificial island unless vx nerve agent at walmart warehouse |
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| 01:55.56 | Rucas | i did a net install like i usually do, but my internet was going slow when apt tried to download the remaining install files after reboot so i ctrl + \ 'ed so i could go choose a different mirror but it just skipped installing the packages altogether |
| 01:56.11 | Rucas | and just finished up |
| 01:56.12 | Rucas | haha |
| 01:56.35 | anapivirtua_ | plush plush all, bn |
| 01:56.42 | Rucas | let's see if this will work now :) |
| 01:56.45 | abrotman | roboncod: is that all ? |
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| 01:57.22 | FieldySnuts | ~hire abrotman |
| 01:57.24 | apt | ACTION hires abrotman along with Gnea as a US Coast Guard Propeller Cleaner, at 9 dollars/hour to start |
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| 01:57.28 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:57.35 | abrotman | yes! |
| 01:57.43 | dvs | promotion! |
| 01:57.44 | roboncod | once abrotman using claymore anti-personnel mine like avoiding detection at iraq or uss tennessee ssbn-734 with john stewart |
| 01:57.59 | abrotman | roboncod: is that all? |
| 01:58.03 | roboncod | eventually turkey world health organization, jewish bankers or abrotman bombs using w-88 warhead and hk-mp5 |
| 01:58.14 | abrotman | !ops roboncod is weird |
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| 01:58.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: roboncod is weird |
| 01:58.30 | shingouz | i think roboncod is a bot |
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| 01:58.40 | abrotman | guess not |
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| 01:58.53 | abrotman | i had no idea how else to describe it :) |
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| 01:59.15 | abrotman | and he's back! |
| 01:59.16 | dvs | he's baaaaaaaaak |
| 01:59.17 | roboncod | if muhsin musa matwalli atwah using weapons of mass destruction then immediate at ac130 spectre gunship or china with sussudio |
| 01:59.25 | abrotman | !ops please remove roboncod |
| 01:59.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: please remove roboncod |
| 01:59.31 | shingouz | weird is the only word that comes into my mind when describing this weirdass |
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| 01:59.36 | roboncod | sometimes fatwa it begins tomorrow god willing platter charge, uss nevada, raydens first trafficking with no-dong missile |
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| 01:59.42 | helix | Rez: uhh, roboncod is back |
| 01:59.46 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 01:59.47 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@tdds-gw.Moscow.gldn.net] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:59.47 | *** part/#debian roboncod (n=roboc0d@tdds-gw.Moscow.gldn.net) |
| 01:59.47 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:59.50 | Rez | helix: I know. |
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| 01:59.58 | helix | then why did you remove him? |
| 01:59.59 | abrotman | ok .. and? |
| 02:00.01 | Rez | I watched him join |
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| 02:00.18 | abrotman | Rez: sorry .. i didn't think anyone was around really .. and my last message was less than helpful |
| 02:00.26 | Rez | did you not see me remove him once? |
| 02:00.28 | abrotman | no |
| 02:00.31 | abrotman | i didn't |
| 02:00.37 | abrotman | his first message wasn't getting kicked |
| 02:00.43 | Rez | that's why he left the first time |
| 02:00.56 | abrotman | Rez: oh .. sorry .. yes i do see .. my apologies |
| 02:01.03 | abrotman | Rez: i thought he left on his own |
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| 02:01.41 | abrotman | and rez |
| 02:01.46 | ryn_05 | need help with cups |
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| 02:03.33 | ryn_05 | anyone, i need help with the star command |
| 02:03.43 | abrotman | there's a star command ? |
| 02:03.49 | gravity | Is that like star merge? |
| 02:03.54 | ryn_05 | start lol |
| 02:04.10 | abrotman | start command ? |
| 02:04.12 | gravity | I just use cups web interface thingy, which rules |
| 02:04.19 | gravity | Or gnome's cups thingy |
| 02:04.21 | ryn_05 | i can't get it to work |
| 02:04.31 | abrotman | send it to kinkos! |
| 02:04.37 | ryn_05 | i'm using dsl based on knoppix based on debian |
| 02:04.42 | gravity | ugh |
| 02:04.43 | gravity | ffs |
| 02:04.47 | gravity | ryn_05: Go to #dsl or something |
| 02:04.48 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 02:04.49 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandrake is redhat. |
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| 02:04.58 | abrotman | wait .. based on linux? |
| 02:05.02 | abrotman | err on knoppix |
| 02:05.07 | gravity | Where are all these fucking dsl users coming from lately? |
| 02:05.13 | ryn_05 | yea just small |
| 02:05.16 | lexmarvs | hi every body |
| 02:05.19 | abrotman | from the damnsmalllinux.org website ? |
| 02:05.20 | ryn_05 | well no one over there talks |
| 02:05.28 | ryn_05 | #damnsmalllinux |
| 02:05.34 | abrotman | !d-i ryn_05 |
| 02:05.35 | dpkg | ryn_05, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 02:05.35 | gravity | If you all got together and actually helped each other, it'd work |
| 02:05.49 | ryn_05 | i just need to get basic cups help |
| 02:05.57 | gravity | ryn_05: Read the CUPS admin guide |
| 02:06.03 | gravity | ryn_05: That's what I do whenever I have a problem with CUPS |
| 02:06.10 | gravity | heh... sometimes it even helps :-) |
| 02:06.28 | itp560 | ryn_05, whats your problem ? |
| 02:06.30 | ryn_05 | did so, i'm at the base with the Http://localhost:31 not working |
| 02:06.30 | dondelelcaro | there is... but only 2 people are there |
| 02:06.32 | abrotman | and no . i'm not starting it |
| 02:06.38 | ryn_05 | lol |
| 02:06.41 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: did you count chanserv? :) |
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| 02:06.56 | abrotman | jkern: #trivia! |
| 02:06.56 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: didn't even bother to count, just went /list #cups |
| 02:06.57 | FieldySnuts | do not join #debian-2,005 |
| 02:07.08 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ah |
| 02:07.13 | shingouz | ryn_05: http://localhost:631 <--try that one |
| 02:07.18 | gravity | jesus |
| 02:07.24 | FieldySnuts | yes, my son? |
| 02:07.29 | ryn_05 | damn i am bad with typing |
| 02:07.33 | FieldySnuts | have you sinned today? |
| 02:07.35 | gravity | Or whatever nmap says is open |
| 02:07.35 | ryn_05 | thats what port i used |
| 02:07.41 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: yes .. i used windows ... |
| 02:07.44 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:07.52 | ryn_05 | http://localhost:631 is what doesnt work |
| 02:07.56 | itp560 | ryn_05, just check your /etc/hosts file |
| 02:07.57 | gravity | ryn_05: invoke-rc.d cupsd start |
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| 02:08.05 | shingouz | !doesn't work |
| 02:08.05 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 02:08.18 | gravity | Er... cupsys, not cupsd |
| 02:08.52 | itp560 | ryn_05, make sure you have this entry in the /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 02:09.14 | itp560 | then restart /etc/cupsys |
| 02:09.15 | ryn_05 | will check |
| 02:09.24 | abrotman | /etc/cupsys won't exist |
| 02:09.29 | abrotman | or will be a dir |
| 02:09.41 | abrotman | for the windows impaired .. a folder |
| 02:09.41 | ryn_05 | cups is a dir |
| 02:09.42 | itp560 | then you have to installe it |
| 02:09.52 | abrotman | uhm |
| 02:09.59 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/cupsys start ? |
| 02:10.16 | ryn_05 | that starts it but still desn't work |
| 02:10.23 | ryn_05 | lpinfo -v doesn't either |
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| 02:10.46 | abrotman | dpkg: fold my laundry |
| 02:11.04 | FieldySnuts | ~dachs abrotman |
| 02:11.06 | apt | abrotman: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 02:11.12 | abrotman | no |
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| 02:11.25 | gravity | ryn_05: This sounds like it would work fine for Debian. Must be a DSL issue. |
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| 02:11.29 | ryn_05 | "Starting CUPSys: cupsd." is what it says |
| 02:11.36 | cbillett | does anyone here know how to reset a password on a gnome keyring? |
| 02:11.45 | abrotman | not again |
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| 02:12.21 | FieldySnuts | badgerwangtek |
| 02:12.53 | abrotman | @date FieldySnuts |
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| 02:13.04 | ryn_05 | well then |
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| 02:13.15 | ryn_05 | cya back to dsl channel |
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| 02:13.36 | abrotman | yeah .. where you belong! :) |
| 02:13.38 | gravity | I get the impression that dsl is very... bad |
| 02:13.49 | FieldySnuts | eh |
| 02:13.56 | abrotman | gravity: it is damn small .. |
| 02:13.59 | shingouz | gravity: it is just very ... small |
| 02:14.03 | abrotman | hides |
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| 02:14.07 | abrotman | snides? |
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| 02:14.12 | mwilson | It depends on what you expect to do with it, that's all. |
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| 02:14.23 | abrotman | i wouldn't expect to be printing with it |
| 02:15.00 | FieldySnuts | ~annoy cups |
| 02:15.06 | FieldySnuts | no? |
| 02:15.16 | magyar_ | the server tells me my nick is in use? how is that possible? |
| 02:15.17 | abrotman | cups annoys .. can't be annoyed |
| 02:15.19 | cbillett | oh. can i just delete it? |
| 02:15.24 | abrotman | magyar_: because it is? |
| 02:15.30 | abrotman | magyar_: /whois magyar ? |
| 02:15.35 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.46 | gravity | True, cups is annoying, but my problems were never that the daemon wouldn't start |
| 02:16.04 | abrotman | magyar_: and if you own the nick .. jsut recover it |
| 02:16.24 | abrotman | gravity: because you use debian :) |
| 02:16.31 | gravity | abrotman: Good point :-) |
| 02:16.49 | magyar_ | abrotman: how do i recover it? |
| 02:16.57 | abrotman | magyar_: /msg nickserv help |
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| 02:17.02 | magyar_ | roger |
| 02:17.04 | mwilson | True, CUPS is sh*t, but the problem is that all the development on back-end support for all these crap printers that're produced goes on under CUPS. So even though something like lprng is far more robust, you're pretty much stuck with CUPS. |
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| 02:18.53 | abrotman | magyar: got it ? |
| 02:19.27 | magyar | abrotman: am kool bro |
| 02:19.29 | magyar | :) |
| 02:19.41 | abrotman | when did /whois start showing the physical lcation of the server? |
| 02:20.17 | magyar | abrotman: how can someone take the nick without "identify" ? |
| 02:20.25 | abrotman | magyar: easily |
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| 02:20.58 | abrotman | magyar: make sense ? |
| 02:20.59 | magyar | doesnt it prompt you for a pass? |
| 02:21.07 | abrotman | magyar: not to get the nick .. no |
| 02:21.30 | magyar | got it, that kind of blows |
| 02:21.32 | abrotman | and i'm not sure if you can force that behaviour |
| 02:21.56 | abrotman | magyar: do you always have the same IP ? |
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| 02:22.15 | abrotman | and i mean *always* |
| 02:22.20 | magyar | abrotman: one has to go through so much hoops to get the nick back |
| 02:22.24 | magyar | yaep |
| 02:22.28 | litage | what's the difference between "requisite" and "required" for a PAM entry? |
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| 02:22.48 | magyar | abrotman: am on statik |
| 02:23.02 | abrotman | magyar: wait .. nm .. i was thinking of something else ... |
| 02:23.13 | magyar | ouch |
| 02:23.14 | magyar | :) |
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| 02:23.28 | abrotman | magyar: maybe ask #freenode .. they might know how |
| 02:23.45 | magyar | abrotman: done |
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| 02:25.32 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 02:25.33 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
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| 02:26.42 | abrotman | !sing ricky clarkson |
| 02:26.43 | dpkg | Cuz I got a brand new combine harvester An' I'll give you the key Come on now let's get together In perfect harmony! |
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| 02:27.00 | Daffy | i removed usepeerdns from the dsl-provider file in /etc/ppp/peers, it is the one used to make the connection at boot time, why is my /etc/resolv.conf file still being modified? i don't understand anything... and why is there a 0000usepeerdns, AND a 0dns-up file ine /etc/ppp/ip-up.d? they seems to do the same thing |
| 02:27.38 | magyar | abrotman: Can not send to channel #freenode |
| 02:27.45 | abrotman | magyar: you have to wait for voice |
| 02:27.48 | magyar | sup with this? |
| 02:27.52 | Daffy | i moved 0dns-up and 0dns-down out of the way, just 0000usepeerdns remaining |
| 02:28.01 | abrotman | so move it? |
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| 02:28.34 | Daffy | and according to what is said in it, it souldn't do anything if usepeerdns is not set in pppd script |
| 02:28.44 | abrotman | Daffy: it lied? :) |
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| 02:28.50 | abrotman | Daffy: file a bug ? |
| 02:28.51 | magyar | abrotman: why wait? |
| 02:28.58 | Daffy | abrotman> seems so... |
| 02:29.01 | abrotman | magyar: because .. it's a moderated channel .. you have to wait |
| 02:29.14 | abrotman | Daffy: make sure you read all in /usr/share/doc/ppp{d} |
| 02:29.25 | mark_ | How do I set an app to startup in xfce4? |
| 02:29.42 | abrotman | magyar: otherwise everyone would be in there . and it would end up like #debian with people like shingouz telling us about thier bathroom habits |
| 02:29.55 | Daffy | abrotman> i'd like to find a "clean" way to avoid my /etc/resolv.conf being modified, i'll take a look to that doc, thanks |
| 02:30.02 | shingouz | abrotman: huh? |
| 02:30.10 | abrotman | shingouz: don't you even try to deny it! |
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| 02:31.14 | abrotman | !tell knoppix about knoppix |
| 02:31.26 | abrotman | wait .. isn't that jetscreamer's IP ? |
| 02:31.39 | abrotman | nope .. guess not |
| 02:32.16 | magyar | :) |
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| 02:33.00 | abrotman | pokey! |
| 02:33.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 477] by debhelper |
| 02:33.04 | abrotman | !tell knoppix about knoppix |
| 02:33.21 | abrotman | knoppix: you CANT speak here if your username is knoppix |
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| 02:34.09 | abrotman | but on the brightside.. you'll probably get lots of free porn while you're here |
| 02:35.41 | asuffield | hmph, whoever reset the ban on knoppix users didn't quite get it right |
| 02:36.00 | *** mode/#debian [+o asuffield] by ChanServ |
| 02:36.02 | lunaphyte | it seems weird that i'd be able to boot off of a debian install cd, but then then the installer wouldn't be able to see the cdrom drive. |
| 02:36.12 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!?=knoppix@*] by asuffield |
| 02:36.24 | FieldySnuts | leave it :( |
| 02:36.27 | asuffield | piece of shit matching function is fucked |
| 02:36.30 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!?=knoppix@*] by asuffield |
| 02:36.34 | FieldySnuts | yay |
| 02:36.44 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!?=knoppix@*!#knoppix] by asuffield |
| 02:36.50 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:36.52 | asuffield | that's what it should have said, I think |
| 02:37.02 | abrotman | let's double check with gravity ! |
| 02:37.10 | abrotman | gravity: pop quiz time! |
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| 02:37.29 | gravity | hrm? |
| 02:37.39 | abrotman | did asuffield set the mask right?! |
| 02:37.43 | gravity | Got me |
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| 02:38.15 | gravity | I'm more worried about getting X building on my machine again |
| 02:38.28 | abrotman | gravity: why'd you break it? |
| 02:38.39 | fando | i haven't installed debian in 5 years (because this comp is still on it :), someone point me to the docs for installing on a thinkpad |
| 02:38.42 | gravity | To save it |
| 02:38.45 | abrotman | gravity: would this be -7 ? |
| 02:38.48 | gravity | -6 |
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| 02:38.55 | abrotman | !d-i fando |
| 02:38.56 | dpkg | fando, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 02:38.57 | abrotman | !ig |
| 02:38.57 | dpkg | from memory, ig is for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg dpkg iyhtays. |
| 02:38.59 | abrotman | fando: ^^ |
| 02:39.04 | abrotman | fando: sarge install guide |
| 02:39.08 | gravity | I think I've got it figured out, but I won't know until tomorrow morning |
| 02:39.09 | asuffield | :zelazny.freenode.net 470 knoppix_test #debian #knoppix :Forwarding to another channel |
| 02:39.10 | asuffield | got it right |
| 02:39.17 | abrotman | gravity: i thought those were already uploaded ? |
| 02:39.19 | FieldySnuts | wow that's cool |
| 02:39.20 | gravity | No |
| 02:39.25 | fando | okie thanks |
| 02:39.27 | FieldySnuts | bad ass |
| 02:39.31 | fando | i have a bunch of ubuntu discs |
| 02:39.37 | fando | but i'd rather use debian |
| 02:39.40 | gravity | They were delayed. This was supposed to have been built a week ago |
| 02:39.41 | FieldySnuts | troll? |
| 02:40.01 | gravity | I'll announce it, along with my progress on 6.9rc0, once I get them uploaded |
| 02:40.09 | *** mode/#debian [-o asuffield] by ChanServ |
| 02:40.34 | gravity | As well as a fun surprise, but that may have to wait a few more days |
| 02:40.52 | gravity | X updates are more fun that screeds about SCM's anyway :-) |
| 02:41.10 | abrotman | a fun suprise?!?!? |
| 02:41.14 | gravity | Yep |
| 02:41.22 | quitte | gravity: oh how much fun i had with xorg 7 source debs |
| 02:41.24 | abrotman | xcompmgr that everyone keeps whining about ? |
| 02:41.34 | gravity | quitte: From Ubuntu? |
| 02:41.42 | quitte | gravity: i would hab |
| 02:41.44 | gravity | abrotman: Maybe. If I give it away, it won't be a surprise |
| 02:41.48 | gravity | hab? |
| 02:41.55 | quitte | gravity: i would have,rather. still not in ubuntu |
| 02:41.56 | fando | is netinst the way to go? |
| 02:42.19 | gravity | quitte: So you messed with them? Or no? |
| 02:42.20 | magyar | abrotman: how do i get help on a "command" ? |
| 02:42.21 | abrotman | gravity: i won't tell! :) |
| 02:42.26 | magyar | irc command |
| 02:42.29 | gravity | I still haven't looked, but I've heard a bit |
| 02:42.30 | abrotman | magyar: command for who for waht? |
| 02:42.31 | quitte | gravity: yes. but on |
| 02:42.34 | quitte | sigh |
| 02:43.02 | quitte | gravity: yes, but for sh3 where monolithic xorg is pretty much unbuildable due to performance |
| 02:43.13 | gravity | sh3 still lives?!?! |
| 02:43.23 | quitte | gravity: revived it myself |
| 02:43.23 | fando | how's xorg? I'm on it and don't notice much difference |
| 02:43.26 | gravity | heh |
| 02:43.30 | abrotman | as in .. superH ? |
| 02:43.40 | gravity | quitte: Ok, we had just killed the sh3 stuff from the control file |
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| 02:43.53 | quitte | gravity: nooo. put it back,please |
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| 02:44.44 | quitte | gravity: i got base almost in sync with sid. i hope i can get this into official debian ports soon |
| 02:44.48 | gravity | quitte: Ok, maybe not for -6 but I'll put them back |
| 02:44.55 | quitte | gravity: thanks |
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| 02:45.30 | abrotman | quitte: do you mean superH ? |
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| 02:48.33 | politik | can someone recommend a simple & secure mail server |
| 02:48.34 | uedauhes | I just added the ndiswrapper to my debian laptop |
| 02:48.41 | Daveman | :) |
| 02:48.47 | uedauhes | I can ping the router (192.168.0.1) |
| 02:48.49 | Daveman | yay ndiswrapper :p |
| 02:48.55 | abrotman | politik: there are many |
| 02:48.55 | uedauhes | but I cant route out |
| 02:49.07 | uedauhes | I can route out from all other machines on network |
| 02:49.07 | Daveman | uedauhes, and it's not your AP/router? :p |
| 02:49.13 | Daveman | ah :) |
| 02:49.16 | uedauhes | and I can route out when I use eth0 |
| 02:49.16 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/ |
| 02:49.17 | quitte | uedauhes: set a gateway in interfaces |
| 02:49.21 | politik | abrotman: ok, simple, secure, and mature :) |
| 02:49.22 | Daveman | oh duh |
| 02:49.35 | abrotman | politik: postfix,exim,sendmail ... all in debian ... |
| 02:49.37 | quitte | uedauhes: you can have only one default route at a time |
| 02:49.37 | politik | I've read that sendmail is complicated |
| 02:49.45 | uedauhes | think I set it, but Ill check for gateway |
| 02:49.47 | uedauhes | thx |
| 02:49.48 | abrotman | oh .. sendmail is complicated |
| 02:49.50 | Daveman | uedauhes, let me guess, you're currently, _also_ simultaneously managing a dhcp connection on your eth0 interface, as well? |
| 02:49.52 | abrotman | scratch that from the ilst |
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| 02:49.59 | abrotman | politik: so you have postfix or exim IMO |
| 02:50.02 | litage | is there a way to combine redirects? eg: change "ls 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null" to "ls 1,2>/dev/null" |
| 02:50.03 | Daveman | quitte :p |
| 02:50.04 | uedauhes | Daveman: no I brought it down |
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| 02:50.14 | Daveman | ah |
| 02:50.22 | uedauhes | its probably gateway |
| 02:50.29 | uedauhes | I thought dhcp would set it |
| 02:50.29 | quitte | uedauhes: did you bring up the other nic after bringing doent eth0? |
| 02:50.32 | abrotman | litage: yes .. uhm .. 1& > or something like that |
| 02:50.35 | abrotman | crap . i forget .. |
| 02:50.35 | Daveman | but is your dhcp client still running on it? |
| 02:50.37 | abrotman | !rootsmite me |
| 02:50.42 | politik | abrotman: ok, what would be the main difference between exim and postfix? |
| 02:50.43 | uedauhes | quitte: yes |
| 02:50.50 | Daveman | haha |
| 02:50.51 | abrotman | politik: the name ? |
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| 02:51.15 | uedauhes | Daveman: probably ... I configured wlan0 using dhclient wlan0 |
| 02:51.23 | Daffy | abrotman> i have all the files in /usr/share/doc/ppp*, and that i have found is what i was thinking: if i don't use usepeerdns, my /etc/resolv.conf shouldn't be modified |
| 02:51.24 | abrotman | politik: some people find exim better .. i found postfix better ... it's all what you're comfy with .. assuming no other conditions/desires |
| 02:51.30 | uedauhes | Daveman: Ill check gateway |
| 02:51.35 | Daveman | okay? |
| 02:51.38 | abrotman | Daffy-PKF: file a bug ? |
| 02:51.47 | litage | abrotman: 2>&1 redirects stderr to stdout... |
| 02:51.51 | abrotman | Daffy-PKF: did you check the VTS ? |
| 02:51.59 | abrotman | bts even |
| 02:51.59 | quitte | uedauhes: no. kill all dhcp clients and rerun on only one interface |
| 02:52.00 | Daveman | I just meant, make sure you don't have your dhcp client, managing two connections, simultaneously :) |
| 02:52.01 | Daffy-PKF | abrotman> VTS? |
| 02:52.06 | abrotman | !bts |
| 02:52.06 | dpkg | from memory, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 02:52.10 | Daveman | quitte :) |
| 02:52.10 | politik | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 02:52.14 | Daffy-PKF | ho |
| 02:52.22 | quitte | Daveman: hehe. you handle it |
| 02:52.27 | Daveman | heh alright ;) |
| 02:52.35 | uedauhes | quitte: ok |
| 02:52.50 | Daveman | I guessed from the start: killall dhcpcd; dhcpcd wlan0 & |
| 02:52.51 | Daveman | :p |
| 02:52.52 | quitte | Daveman: and make him stop calling dhcp client manually while you're at it ;) |
| 02:52.59 | Daveman | fine! :P |
| 02:53.04 | Daveman | heehee |
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| 02:53.12 | abrotman | litage: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html |
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| 02:53.59 | masteraccurate | mornijng |
| 02:54.03 | Daveman | morning |
| 02:54.04 | dondelelcaro | so use knoppix or something |
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| 02:54.11 | Daveman | yay knoppix |
| 02:54.20 | jantosh | hi |
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| 02:54.43 | litage | thanks abrotman |
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| 02:55.01 | quitte | i use ifplugd to bring up wlan0 if eth0 goes down. maybe someone might want to do the same |
| 02:55.07 | robbie_ | is there any way to make ssh X11 forwarding faster? |
| 02:55.16 | tk-1 | this is a command yer? |
| 02:55.17 | tk-1 | - dpkg -i limewire-free_4.8.1-1_i386.deb |
| 02:55.19 | robbie_ | i.e use less bandwidth |
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| 02:56.11 | Daveman | quitte :) |
| 02:56.11 | rr72 | whats the latest news on "Etch"? |
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| 02:56.31 | abrotman | what about it ?> |
| 02:56.34 | abrotman | !etch |
| 02:56.35 | dpkg | well, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 02:56.46 | jantosh | Does anyone know when the newer versions of Firefox and GNOME are going to make it into testing? |
| 02:57.04 | Guerin | jantosh: when they're ready |
| 02:57.17 | Guerin | jantosh: are they in unstable yet? |
| 02:57.24 | jantosh | yes |
| 02:57.29 | jantosh | for i386 |
| 02:57.31 | Guerin | robbie_: ssh -XC |
| 02:57.40 | Guerin | !why is mozilla-firefox not in testing |
| 02:57.41 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=mozilla-firefox |
| 02:57.54 | Guerin | jantosh: repeat for other packages |
| 02:57.59 | jantosh | ok |
| 02:58.05 | jantosh | ill check it out |
| 02:58.09 | tk-1 | any ideas please this should work shouldnt it |
| 02:58.10 | tk-1 | LinuxBox:/home/tk/Downloads# -dpkg -i limewire-free_4.9.28-1_i386.deb |
| 02:58.11 | tk-1 | bash: -dpkg: command not found |
| 02:58.23 | Guerin | tk-1: you are moron #1 |
| 02:58.36 | jantosh | lol |
| 02:58.37 | tk-1 | i throught dpkg was a command |
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| 02:58.40 | Guerin | it is |
| 02:58.43 | dondelelcaro | tk-1: dpkg is. -dpkg isn't. |
| 02:58.43 | Daveman | heh |
| 02:58.44 | jantosh | not -dpkg |
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| 02:58.46 | abrotman | man dpkg .. not man -dpkg |
| 02:58.49 | Guerin | but -dpkg isn't the same as dpkg |
| 02:58.49 | tk-1 | ops |
| 02:58.51 | tk-1 | lol |
| 02:58.57 | masteraccurate | sry4this question: how to list in xchat sorted by usercount? |
| 02:59.00 | tk-1 | someone slap me |
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| 02:59.15 | Guerin | sry4this? is that a sort of sexually transmitted disease? |
| 02:59.33 | masteraccurate | omg... keep cool |
| 02:59.35 | Guerin | !slap tk-1 |
| 02:59.47 | Guerin | masteraccurate: omg ... spk english plz |
| 02:59.53 | quitte | !aolify masteraccurate |
| 02:59.56 | Guerin | masteraccurate: #xchat |
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| 03:00.00 | tk-1 | lol cheers Guerin |
| 03:00.10 | masteraccurate | omg = oh my god |
| 03:00.20 | masteraccurate | sry4this = sorry for this |
| 03:00.23 | uedauhes | quitte: Is there a stop script for dhclient or just killall? |
| 03:00.27 | Guerin | !moronspeak |
| 03:00.28 | dpkg | FUKN SPEK PRPLY U FKN M0R0NZ!!!!11 See <sms-over-irc> <ne1> <lol> <2> <u> <r> <k>, or see http://www.hohto.to/forums/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=17720. Adding -ies, -rama or any other puerile suffix to words also qualifies, and will entitle you to a free glass of shut the fuck up. |
| 03:00.37 | uedauhes | quitte: Didnt see it in init.d |
| 03:00.44 | masteraccurate | my god you have never heared of this? o_O |
| 03:00.49 | quitte | uedauhes: killall. and then read interfaces and never touch dhclient manually again |
| 03:00.59 | quitte | uedauhes: man interfaces |
| 03:01.01 | masteraccurate | can someone tell me now how to do this? |
| 03:01.08 | uedauhes | quitte: great thx for help |
| 03:01.10 | Guerin | masteraccurate: #XCHAT CAN |
| 03:01.11 | quitte | uedauhes: and find out about ifplugs |
| 03:01.15 | masteraccurate | thx |
| 03:01.15 | jantosh | masteraccurate: what was your original question |
| 03:01.17 | quitte | uedauhes: and find out about ifplugd |
| 03:01.19 | Guerin | !thx |
| 03:01.19 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. Thx. a movie, THX1138, also by George |
| 03:01.27 | masteraccurate | thanks |
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| 03:01.33 | Guerin | you're welcome |
| 03:01.39 | masteraccurate | my god... how ill... sorry! |
| 03:01.49 | masteraccurate | :P |
| 03:01.57 | uedauhes | quitte: K ... was following directions in ndiswrapper wiki |
| 03:02.09 | uedauhes | quitte: groping in the dark here |
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| 03:02.30 | quitte | uedauhes: the ndiswrapper package comes with docs,too ;) |
| 03:02.57 | masteraccurate | and this is here normal in a pms? --> ayse^ Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign => http://sexchat.tr.gs |
| 03:03.12 | uedauhes | quitte: I was reading installation wiki ... which I think is the preferred doc |
| 03:03.20 | uedauhes | quitte: oh you mean man |
| 03:03.23 | Guerin | woah |
| 03:03.33 | Guerin | he got k-lined for pasting the bot output |
| 03:03.39 | Guerin | pwn3d |
| 03:03.46 | jantosh | word |
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| 03:03.48 | quitte | uedauhes: no i meant in usr/share/doc/ndiswrapper* |
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| 03:04.50 | Daveman | hey uedauhes |
| 03:05.05 | uedauhes | Daveman: yeah |
| 03:05.13 | uedauhes | Daveman: whats up |
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| 03:05.22 | Daveman | hahaha, Guerin :p |
| 03:05.23 | quitte | uedauhes: for most situation, really most debian has the proper docs already - and those are debian specific |
| 03:05.28 | Daveman | uedauhes, what's happening? |
| 03:05.42 | Daffy | welll, i don't understand anything... i rebooted and this time my resolv.conf is ok, i haven't changes anything! strange things are happening here... |
| 03:05.56 | uedauhes | quitte: cool ... good info thx |
| 03:06.00 | quitte | Daffy: dhcp got it from server |
| 03:06.06 | uedauhes | Daveman: where do I know you from? |
| 03:06.11 | Daffy | quitte> i don't use dhcp |
| 03:06.21 | quitte | Daffy: ppp or pppoe? |
| 03:06.32 | quitte | Daffy: those do it,too |
| 03:06.52 | Daffy | quitte> the problem was i remove usepeerdns from the ppp connection script, and it was still modifying my resolv.conf |
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| 03:07.24 | quitte | Daffy: try using pppconfig instead. |
| 03:07.25 | Daffy | quitte> but it's ok now, don't know what have changed... |
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| 03:07.47 | quitte | Daffy: youre using peerdns again, obviously |
| 03:08.01 | Daffy | quitte> no i'm not, and that's what i wanted |
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| 03:08.18 | quitte | Daffy: uhm ok. as long as it works |
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| 03:08.27 | tk-1 | n00b question how do i add and apt source |
| 03:08.28 | Daffy | quitte> cause i installed bind on this box, so i don't want to use other dns |
| 03:08.37 | uedauhes | quitte: edited interfaces, ifup wlan0, SUCCESS |
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| 03:08.43 | uedauhes | quitte: thanks a bunch |
| 03:08.47 | quitte | tk-1: edit etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:09.00 | quitte | uedauhes: you're welcome |
| 03:09.07 | tk-1 | ty |
| 03:09.12 | tk-1 | thanks |
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| 03:11.12 | Daffy | how do i say the irc server that Daffy-PKF is myself? so it can kick it from the server |
| 03:11.30 | quitte | Daffy: /msg nickserv help |
| 03:12.28 | Daveman | uedauhes, haha, what? |
| 03:12.33 | Daveman | oh great! |
| 03:12.40 | Daveman | uedauhes, so it's working and everything? :) |
| 03:13.49 | Daffy-PKF | quitte> great, thanks |
| 03:14.08 | quitte | welcome |
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| 03:19.26 | xhypno | anyone know the package name for the ipw2200 driver? |
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| 03:19.59 | perdenab_ | i use a german 105-key keyboard with standard german keymap. after a recent debian upgrade, some of the keys don't work. |
| 03:20.01 | perdenab_ | gnome claims i'm still using the german keymap as before. however, alt-gr does't seem to work for all keys, and my umlaut ä ö and ü work in some apps but not others. |
| 03:20.02 | perdenab_ | any idea what might be causing this? no response in the debian mailing list or #gnome |
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| 03:20.10 | bob2 | shockingly, ipw2200-source |
| 03:20.47 | perdenab_ | in an ALT-F1 tty login, all keys work 100% correctly, so it's definitely something in X |
| 03:21.08 | GuhGuh | can anybody tell me if its possible to create a .deb kernel package using make-kpkg in cygwin? |
| 03:21.12 | jkern | xhypno, apt-cache search ipw2200 can help you |
| 03:21.36 | xhypno | yeah, it only shows ieee80211 |
| 03:21.40 | xhypno | that is not right |
| 03:21.44 | bob2 | GuhGuh: unlikely |
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| 03:21.57 | quitte | GuhGuh: outlook not so good |
| 03:22.00 | bob2 | xhypno: so, you didn't tell apt to use non-free and contrib |
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| 03:22.09 | sailz | hi =] |
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| 03:22.13 | Jason-x | hi |
| 03:22.15 | xhypno | hmmmm. no |
| 03:22.21 | xhypno | give me a sec |
| 03:22.28 | sailz | im doing the netinstall just a quick q |
| 03:22.43 | sailz | what apt-get install files should i get to get x |
| 03:22.49 | bob2 | define "x" |
| 03:22.50 | sailz | i already installed flux |
| 03:22.57 | bob2 | x-window-system-core is a basic X window system |
| 03:23.10 | sailz | yea |
| 03:23.16 | sailz | but i dunno what to get |
| 03:23.18 | sailz | er |
| 03:23.24 | sailz | like apt-get install ??? |
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| 03:23.40 | bob2 | um |
| 03:23.46 | bob2 | try reading my reply again |
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| 03:23.53 | sailz | oh ok |
| 03:24.00 | sailz | ill try it out |
| 03:24.02 | sailz | thx bob2 |
| 03:24.02 | sailz | =] |
| 03:24.03 | LinuxNIT-laptop | hey guys when i type ifconfig nothing shows up for lo any idea why? |
| 03:24.16 | xhypno | bob2: thanks I found the source, do you know if there is a binary of it. |
| 03:24.17 | JimButton | maybe no other network devices are up? |
| 03:24.22 | bob2 | because you broke your network |
| 03:24.27 | bob2 | xhypno: no, that would not be useful |
| 03:24.28 | LinuxNIT-laptop | wlan is running |
| 03:24.33 | LinuxNIT-laptop | im on the net |
| 03:25.35 | perdenab_ | I WANT MY UMLAUTS BACK |
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| 03:26.10 | itp560 | how can I resize the patition size ( shrink ) ? |
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| 03:26.27 | dondelelcaro | perdenab_: sö fïx yöür löcälë. |
| 03:26.45 | perdenab_ | unreadable on my screen, sorry |
| 03:27.05 | perdenab_ | if that was deliberate, very funny :) |
| 03:27.35 | dondelelcaro | no, your locale/terminal is just not set to utf-8 or you've managed to screw something else up |
| 03:27.35 | itp560 | how can I resize the patition size ( shrink ) ? |
| 03:27.38 | LinuxNIT-laptop | thanks anyway JimButton |
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| 03:27.44 | dondelelcaro | itp560: parted or resize2fs |
| 03:28.18 | itp560 | dondelelcaro, that will resize the fs not the partition ? |
| 03:28.34 | perdenab_ | funny thing is, the keymap is correct - Z and Y are transposed, and the symbols are all in the right place for a german keyboard |
| 03:28.56 | xhypno | anyone built the ieee80211 and ipw2200 drivers before |
| 03:29.11 | perdenab_ | and the umlauts work in mozilla and some other apps, but not xterm and some others |
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| 03:30.36 | itp560 | once i resize the file system thats fine. But the resizing the partition size is the problem? |
| 03:30.37 | dondelelcaro | itp560: yes. once you've resized the filesystem, you then use fdisk or cfdisk to change the partition size |
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| 03:33.42 | xhypno | dondelelcaro: how would I use the ieee80211-source and ipw2200-source |
| 03:33.56 | xhypno | They are 2 apt-source packages |
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| 03:35.08 | xhypno | they are both sources for modules |
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| 03:37.29 | w00dz0r | is there anything wrong with setting a realy low MTU on my adsl router? |
| 03:37.35 | w00dz0r | like 1300 |
| 03:38.06 | Daveman | that's really low? |
| 03:38.07 | Niriven | why would you go below the standard 1500? |
| 03:38.13 | Daveman | Niriven, problems. |
| 03:38.31 | Daveman | hence the 1492 setting, for example. (lame) |
| 03:38.35 | Daveman | but yeah |
| 03:38.50 | Niriven | Well the only reason you would want to go below would be severe packet loss... |
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| 03:40.18 | Daveman | yep |
| 03:40.25 | Daveman | and CRAPPY MICROSOFT SOFTWARE... |
| 03:40.27 | Daveman | err, sorry :) |
| 03:40.49 | |RABBIT| | crappy networks >:( |
| 03:40.58 | Niriven | Speaking of crappy microsoft software, vs.net 2005 C# is amazing :P |
| 03:41.15 | varroa | Does anyone currently have pbuilder working? |
| 03:41.21 | |RABBIT| | anyway, I apologize for asking the question twice (don't know if it came through) |
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| 03:41.40 | |RABBIT| | any ideas why make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image does not produce an initrd image inside the .deb? |
| 03:41.48 | Niriven | Anyway, im here to ask: Debian on a 133 mhz machine, not to smart? |
| 03:42.04 | lakcaj | Niriven, depends what you plan on doing with it |
| 03:42.13 | lakcaj | I wouldn't want to run gnome on a 133 |
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| 03:42.38 | jkern | Niriven, how much RAM |
| 03:42.45 | Niriven | lakcaj: Nothing intensive... I think i tried 2.6 on it earlier and well, it took forever to do anything, including installs |
| 03:42.54 | Niriven | jkern: 64 megs |
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| 03:43.21 | |RABBIT| | Niriven but what is your final destination? you want to do some simple firewalling? file serving? want to use it as a workstation? |
| 03:43.29 | jkern | Niriven, what do you want it to do? |
| 03:44.03 | Niriven | Learning purposes, i want to create a memory editor using C. |
| 03:44.24 | |RABBIT| | memory editor...? |
| 03:46.00 | Niriven | It will search for all memory values (by specified type, eg: long/short int, byte, word, etc) within the processes memory range, from there you can narrow down values by "increased by, decreased by, changed, not changed, etc" |
| 03:46.17 | Niriven | Hacking software :) |
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| 03:47.08 | fando | hey what partition type should one use? |
| 03:47.23 | fando | there's a long list in the installer |
| 03:47.24 | jkern | Niriven, you might need to be patient if you want to compile some big stuff |
| 03:47.26 | Niriven | Mainly for the pointer stuff, i have an interview next week and i need to grab a understanding of more C |
| 03:47.43 | Niriven | jkern: I'd like to use the QT toolkit |
| 03:48.15 | gravity | Qt doesn't have a C interface |
| 03:48.35 | lakcaj | fando, that's like asking "what's the best religion" |
| 03:48.53 | lakcaj | fando, for desktop use, alot of peopel use reiserfs |
| 03:48.54 | JimButton | lakcaj: obviously the best religion is the thing with the spaghetti god |
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| 03:48.58 | Niriven | No, but it's c++, but i can still use c like code |
| 03:49.06 | Niriven | For the memory stuff |
| 03:49.06 | lakcaj | the flying spaghetti monster :) |
| 03:49.13 | JimButton | Niriven: you shouldn't :) |
| 03:49.20 | JimButton | lakcaj: exactly :) |
| 03:49.29 | Niriven | Jim: why not? |
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| 03:49.54 | gravity | C++ has its own ways to handle memory. If you're writing C++ you should probably write C++, not C. |
| 03:49.56 | JimButton | Niriven: C++ has better mechanisms |
| 03:50.00 | gravity | Then again, I hate C++ |
| 03:50.10 | JimButton | Niriven: you should use new and delete instead of malloc() and free() |
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| 03:50.13 | JimButton | Niriven: etc. |
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| 03:50.46 | Niriven | Well what would be a bit faster, gtk, or qt? |
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| 03:51.01 | JimButton | Niriven: depends :) |
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| 03:51.34 | |RABBIT| | um... if you are simply writing a proof-of-concept what does gtk has to do with it? |
| 03:51.35 | varroa | fando: Unless you have a real reason to, you can safely stick with ext3. |
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| 03:52.24 | JimButton | is it only me, or is there an increased volume of private message spam today? |
| 03:52.39 | WiFiTux | Hi, I'm trying to fetch the git tree from linus and I basically can't with the commands given by Garzik, looks like the git command in apt is some other git command... |
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| 03:53.00 | jkern | JimButton, check out /topic |
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| 03:53.07 | Niriven | |RABBIT|: Its going to be hard to write a good interface using just the console for a memory editor |
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| 03:54.04 | JimButton | jkern: it is coming from different nicks all the time, AFAICT |
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| 03:54.30 | varroa | WiFiTux: git = GNU Interactive Tools |
| 03:54.31 | jkern | JimButton, it has been a big problem for several days |
| 03:54.50 | WiFiTux | varroa: I know, tell that to Linus and Garzik. |
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| 03:54.58 | JimButton | jkern: ok, thx, just wanted to know |
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| 03:55.05 | Area-51 | ok, so i plugged in a pcmcia usb 2.0 card and /var/log/syslog shows a usb 1.1 controller being plugged in, but lspci shows a 1.1 and 2.0 controller, and messages is showing a usb 1.1 hub... does anything think ill get usb 2.0 speeds (well its pcmcia, so i wont get full 2.0 speeds, but at least faster than 1.1) (debian testing, kernel 2.6.11.11) |
| 03:55.17 | jkern | JimButton, /mode yournick +E is the current work-around |
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| 03:55.30 | varroa | WiFiTux: Linus knows and he refused to change the name the *new* git. |
| 03:55.53 | JimButton | oh, my nick, heh |
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| 03:56.06 | JimButton | what does that do? not accept any queries? |
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| 03:56.51 | jkern | JimButton, only those recognized bu nickserv can msg |
| 03:57.01 | jkern | ^bu^by |
| 03:57.01 | JimButton | ok, thx |
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| 03:57.18 | tbm_ | hey |
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| 03:57.43 | m4k0 | hey |
| 03:57.50 | m4k0 | where can i find where to edit my grub conf ? |
| 03:57.56 | varroa | WiFiTux: This was brought up on the dev list and I can't remember what the end result was. Do you have cogito installed? |
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| 03:58.06 | bob2 | m4k0: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 03:58.10 | m4k0 | ty |
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| 03:59.05 | m4k0 | bob2 how would i add a seperate hard drive / partition ? |
| 03:59.14 | m4k0 | ugh |
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| 04:23.09 | xsquared | i want to change the partitions on a system. if i only modify the partition on 1 drive, my other partition won't be touched..... right? |
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| 04:23.20 | xsquared | using that partition editor thingy |
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| 04:23.27 | xsquared | in the install process |
| 04:24.13 | peterS | xsquared: you will be given a chance to verify the changes you have made, before they are actually made |
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| 04:24.33 | xsquared | i know... does a smiley face mean that it will be edited? |
| 04:25.09 | peterS | I forget what the icons mean. I think they're dumb, myself |
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| 04:25.50 | xsquared | i don't want it to do anything to my secondary drive... if i don't touch it in the partition editor, it won't partition it anyway... will it? |
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| 04:26.10 | peterS | xsquared: it had better not. that would be a serious bug and a lot of people would be most unhappy |
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| 04:26.50 | xsquared | okay, so i'll continue |
| 04:26.51 | xsquared | thanks |
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| 04:28.15 | roldyx_ | hi |
| 04:28.31 | roldyx_ | zzzzzzzzzz |
| 04:28.45 | roldyx_ | grrrrrrr |
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| 04:34.02 | john | a buddy of mine is having a problem with apt-get install and apt-get dist-upgrade. Tells him: dpkg: error processing at (--configure): |
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| 04:34.41 | yoshio_ | I have a laptop with a Cirrus Logic 4237B chipset, have the default debian 2.4.27 kernel with alsa-modules. In gnome, when trying to run xmms, the artsd daemon starts up. How do I prevent artsd from starting? I just want to output with alsa |
| 04:34.50 | yoshio_ | running Sarge |
| 04:36.02 | nvz | well I just hooked up these two pcs I got yesturday. The one I pulled out of the rain works fine PIII 667mhz 128MB Ram.. the HP Pavillion I unhooked and took of the desk at the judge's house thew sparks out the power supply when I hooked it up.. and the fucker was plugged in when I picked it up, but I bring it home and plug it in and it throws sparks |
| 04:36.13 | nvz | I dont know what the hell that is all about. I am not sure what to do with it yet |
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| 04:36.34 | yoshio_ | john: did he try dpkg --configure --pending |
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| 04:38.42 | yoshio_ | I've never seen this channel this quiet at any time |
| 04:38.54 | john | now he did |
| 04:38.56 | john | and it returned with |
| 04:38.58 | john | Starting deferred execution scheduler: atdinvoke-rc.d: initscript atd, action "start" failed. |
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| 04:40.03 | nvz | opening this PS only makes me more confused theres nothing visiblay wrong and not a single damage componant.. after I watched fireworks come out of this thing |
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| 04:41.07 | tk-1 | could someone please help me i have a windows 2003 server with standard remote control on it is there any software for debian which would let me remote to its desktop |
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| 04:42.05 | cheal | tk-1: "standard remote control"? |
| 04:42.17 | cheal | RDP? VNC? |
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| 04:42.33 | tk-1 | the standard one windows comes with |
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| 04:42.44 | tk-1 | i think its RDP isnt it? |
| 04:42.46 | mwilson | Windows doesn't come with one. |
| 04:42.55 | mwilson | So try again. |
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| 04:43.33 | yoshio_ | john: there doesn't seem to be a file named atdinvoke-rc.d, according to packages.debian.org. Is he using experimental, or a non-debian package? |
| 04:43.37 | nvz | when something throws fireworks do you hook it backup? heh |
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| 04:58.33 | *** topic/#debian is SPAMBOTS? /mode nickname +E | Sarge firefox bug: /msg dpkg sarge firefox | GETTING DEBIAN? /msg dpkg install debian | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | BTS: /msg dpkg bts | gcc/g++ 4.0 w/ new ABI! beware breakage! | X.org is in sid | sid libssl0.9.7 borked: /msg dpkg broken ssl | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster| /msg bots NOT people | Java -> /msg dpkg java | kde 3.4 /msg dpkg kde3.4 | NO MORE non-us /msg dpkg cryp |
| 04:58.41 | zamolxes | LordMyren: on the other hand, etch has no such problems ;) |
| 04:58.48 | LordMyren | ha, a long time ago |
| 04:58.57 | nvz | LordMyren: cant put a time on things when there is no money involved |
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| 04:59.14 | peterS | o/` goin downtown to see your man, and I ain't got time to shake your hand o/~ |
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| 04:59.52 | SimonRaven | nice thing about choir is that you get to learn songs |
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| 04:59.56 | nvz | I wish I had a can-o-air to blow this thing out real good.. I would hook it back up again |
| 04:59.57 | SimonRaven | same for drumming |
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| 05:00.41 | LordMyren | i dont even want to know how many package maintainers debian has... what a mess |
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| 05:00.45 | nvz | though I do have that little shopvac over there |
| 05:00.53 | SimonRaven | 1000+ |
| 05:00.54 | jeffrin | peterS : how to get manual pages for posix threads |
| 05:01.02 | nvz | !dstats sid |
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| 05:01.11 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sid... 17224 packages, 1585 maintainers, 34489 MB installed size, 11092 MB compressed size. |
| 05:01.13 | peterS | jeffrin: why do you think I will know? |
| 05:01.26 | peterS | jeffrin: as far as I know, there are none. go use freebsd |
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| 05:01.39 | LordMyren | 17224 pacakgtes... at 100 packages a day thats only half a year |
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| 05:01.50 | LordMyren | 100 packages a day; that sounds pretty optimistic to me |
| 05:02.12 | SimonRaven | 12 arches in sarge |
| 05:02.24 | LordMyren | oh dear god |
| 05:02.33 | jeffrin | peterS : why is it that there are no manuals |
| 05:02.42 | peterS | jeffrin: because you haven't contributed one yet |
| 05:02.42 | SimonRaven | now you get an idea how massive this is |
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| 05:02.46 | nvz | I am gonna go over across the street where the firedept and police are goonulating something and find that friend of mine that jinxed me. He said that other pc was going to fry |
| 05:02.49 | peterS | jeffrin: use the libc info pages |
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| 05:03.24 | jeffrin | peterS : has no body contributed to threads manuals |
| 05:03.36 | peterS | jeffrin: well, I haven't. have you? |
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| 05:04.08 | LordMyren | wahts the ro kernel parameter do? |
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| 05:04.17 | jeffrin | peterS : may be i should do that |
| 05:04.19 | peterS | LordMyren: mounts your root filesystem read-only at boot time |
| 05:04.24 | peterS | jeffrin: you really should |
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| 05:04.53 | LordMyren | what part of SysV runs fstab? ... will that remount rw? |
| 05:05.06 | peterS | jeffrin: you can contribute your text to the 'manpages-dev' package, maintained by joey schulze |
| 05:05.10 | SimonRaven | ls /etc/init.d |
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| 05:05.28 | peterS | LordMyren: look in /etc/rcS.d and see if you can find some scripts that have the word 'mount' in their names |
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| 05:05.43 | LordMyren | *nod* |
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| 05:06.00 | SimonRaven | better idea |
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| 05:07.21 | SimonRaven | (i was hoping LordMyren would think of 'mount'. rcS.d is a better choice than init.d, unless you don't have one) |
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| 05:08.12 | peterS | SimonRaven: true. at least I didn't say mountall.sh |
| 05:08.20 | SimonRaven | indeed |
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| 05:10.32 | yoshio_ | unixfool_: try "ls -g" |
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| 05:11.13 | cheal | dpkg: no, cd contents is <reply> To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. stew has created a searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 05:11.13 | dpkg | okay, cheal |
| 05:11.34 | LordMyren | crap, grub isnt finding (hd0,0) |
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| 05:12.07 | LordMyren | again, this machines bios wont reckognize the 80 gb hard drive i've got in it |
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| 05:12.16 | Eclipser | hmm |
| 05:12.20 | LordMyren | somehow the sarge installer was able to detect the drive anyways |
| 05:12.26 | LordMyren | but i cant get grub to grok it |
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| 05:13.38 | peterS | LordMyren: sarge has the benefit of a linux kernel driver for your scsi card or sata card or IDE interfaces or whatever. grub doesn't |
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| 05:14.26 | LordMyren | yeah |
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| 05:14.50 | LordMyren | is it possible to boot a kernel off the floppy to boot the kernel on the hd? |
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| 05:15.01 | LordMyren | i'd really like to keep the actual kernel on the HD |
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| 05:15.31 | peterS | LordMyren: you're talking two-kernel-monte, also known as kexec. it's possible in theory, I don't remember if the kexec patch ever went in permanently to Linus's tree |
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| 05:16.24 | peterS | LordMyren: find a 200 MB IDE drive somewhere on ebay or whatever, stick that in your machine and use it as /boot |
| 05:16.26 | yoshio_ | LordMyren: did you format the drive in another computer? I copied a drive to another drive on a spare machine, put the new drive in my computer. grub would go bonkers. In BIOS, I selected an option to use partition table instead of BIOS's idea of partitions (sorry don't remember exact name), and it worked |
| 05:16.54 | yoshio_ | LordMyren it was an Asus laptop |
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| 05:17.30 | LordMyren | i've got a 500 mb one, but it already is making not-pretty sounds |
| 05:17.35 | LordMyren | and i dont have any mroe IDE in the stupid machine |
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| 05:17.59 | LordMyren | yoshio_: no, it was formatted in the sarge installer on that machine |
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| 05:19.02 | LordMyren | this drive might have some 32 GB mode enable.... will the kernel ignore that bios report and figure out its 80 gb anyways? |
| 05:19.04 | yoshio_ | LordMyren do you have /usr/share/doc/grub-doc - it has an html manual, includes how to make a floppy boot for grub |
| 05:19.30 | LordMyren | yeah, i made the grub floppy. but grub isnt detecting the hd. |
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| 05:21.17 | LordMyren | i cant believe there arent any easily googleable kexec boot disks. |
| 05:21.21 | LordMyren | frak! |
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| 05:22.21 | LordMyren | i suppose i could just put the kernel on floppy |
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| 05:22.24 | LordMyren | thats so fucking crass |
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| 05:26.18 | yoshio_ | LordMyren in the grub shell, you can type "device (hd0) /dev/sda" to specify the device, if grub can't see it |
| 05:26.20 | jeffrin | peterS : are you there |
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| 05:26.42 | peterS | jeffrin: maybe. are you planning to ask me some more questions with no evidence that I'm better qualified to answer them than the other 800 people here? |
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| 05:27.32 | jeffrin | peterS : no it is not that |
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| 05:28.55 | jeffrin | peterS : anyway i have started my effort to make manual pages for manpages-dev |
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| 05:29.26 | yoshio_ | I have a laptop with a Cirrus Logic 4237B chipset, have the default debian 2.4.27 kernel with alsa-modules. In gnome, when trying to run xmms, the artsd daemon starts up. How do I prevent artsd from starting? I just want to output with alsa |
| 05:29.29 | cmatheson | i'm looking for a program that can do conversions from decimal to binary to hex and what not, does anyone know of one (preferabbly commandline) |
| 05:29.48 | peterS | jeffrin: oh, sounds good. it's a hard job, details matter a lot and the information you need is buried in other copyrighted manuals that you can't just copy and paste from |
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| 05:31.10 | peterS | jeffrin: interestingly, the package description for 'glibc-doc' claims to include manpages for pthread functions. but I would be wary of just using those, because all of glibc-doc is apparently under the not-so-free GNU Free Documentation License |
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| 05:31.39 | srbaker | yo |
| 05:31.47 | srbaker | what file edits /var/log/setuid.log |
| 05:31.49 | srbaker | ? |
| 05:32.20 | asuffield | I haven't even got one of those |
| 05:32.35 | yoshio_ | cmatheson: apt-cache show gbase |
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| 05:33.04 | nanotalk | is there tool for reading reiserfs from windows? |
| 05:33.44 | peterS | nanotalk: dunno, but if there is, you'll probably find it mentioned at www.namesys.com |
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| 05:34.14 | jeffrin | peterS : anyway it is not an impossible task right |
| 05:34.30 | asuffield | merely a huge, time-consuming, and thankless one |
| 05:34.43 | jeffrin | ? |
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| 05:35.01 | peterS | jeffrin: be particularly careful not to infringe FSF copyrights by cutting and pasting stuff from the info pages or their own pthread manpages, allegedly existing in the glibc-doc package |
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| 05:35.29 | peterS | jeffrin: that whole package might go away to non-free-land some day soon, so it'd be good not to pollute your own work with intellectual property that is encumbered by that |
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| 05:36.32 | Sazpaimon | OK so, my server is no longer connecting to the internet after some sort of attack on my IRC server |
| 05:36.41 | Sazpaimon | my log contains this |
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| 05:36.42 | Sazpaimon | "server kernel: printk: *number* messages suppressed |
| 05:36.44 | Coke | hm, "huge, time-consuming and thankless". it has got to be something that would be really beneficial to mankind. |
| 05:36.47 | Sazpaimon | for a few hours |
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| 05:37.23 | Sazpaimon | now I cant connect to the internet |
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| 05:37.32 | Sazpaimon | and no one can connect to the server |
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| 05:37.34 | jeffrin | peterS : does FSF have pthread manual pages |
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| 05:37.50 | peterS | jeffrin: install 'glibc-doc' and find out. I don't have it installed. the package description says they do |
| 05:38.08 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, what did netstat -nlp tell you? |
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| 05:38.40 | Sazpaimon | let me see |
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| 05:38.58 | jeffrin | peterS : let me find details |
| 05:39.23 | peterS | jeffrin: the situation with glibc docs is very strange. manpages-dev describes much of libc, but is not maintained by the FSF. the FSF prefer to maintain docs in a format they call texinfo, and thus are happy not to maintain manpages. |
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| 05:39.59 | peterS | jeffrin: furthermore, the FSF have embraced the GNU Free Documentation License and thus caused a content reuse schism fully as significant as the one caused by the GPL amongst BSD hackers |
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| 05:40.05 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, a lot of output |
| 05:40.10 | Sazpaimon | what are you looking for specifically |
| 05:40.11 | peterS | though thankfully affecting a lot less content |
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| 05:40.25 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, is your service even runnning? |
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| 05:41.22 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, I believe so |
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| 05:41.41 | jacus | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.53 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, you could paste the output of netstat -nlp in #flood |
| 05:42.05 | Sazpaimon | I would, but its not via ssh |
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| 05:42.23 | peterS | jacus: you can do it with 'up' or 'pre-up' hooks in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 05:42.30 | peterS | jacus: 'man 5 interfaces' for details |
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| 05:43.12 | mwilson | whyinhell is x-window-system-core depending on xserver-xorg? |
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| 05:43.29 | peterS | mwilson: you don't expect x-window-system-core to include an X server? |
| 05:43.33 | Coke | jacus: you shouldn't have to change it at all, but you can hook your own scripts to the ifup command. |
| 05:43.36 | peterS | mwilson: what, praytell, did you think it would include? |
| 05:43.38 | mwilson | peterS: Certainly not. |
| 05:43.38 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, hard to tell this far what is going on, but i would investigate all your logs and restart your service |
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| 05:43.58 | Coke | jacus: man interfaces |
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| 05:44.05 | jacus | peterS: I'v written ifconfig ethX down hw ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX up into this file with interfaces |
| 05:44.07 | tjrobb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:44.29 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, how do I restart my service again |
| 05:44.29 | jacus | but then the ethernet card was'nt detected |
| 05:44.32 | dondelelcaro | !depends x-window-system-core sarge |
| 05:44.33 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, 1st try last -n 39 to see who did connect to your box if any |
| 05:44.33 | mwilson | peterS: I hadn't noticed any particular requirement in X that the server be on the same box the client was. The XFree packages certainly kept network transparency... the xorg packages don't? |
| 05:44.38 | peterS | jacus: you need to do it with an up or pre-up hook. read 'man 5 interfaces' |
| 05:44.38 | dpkg | x-window-system-core: depends on xserver-xfree86, xlibmesa-dri, xlibmesa-gl, xlibmesa-glu, xfonts-base (>> 4.0), xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable, xbase-clients, xutils |
| 05:45.00 | Sazpaimon | OK |
| 05:45.03 | cheal | what's the way to tell the BTS a bug is in 2 versions when opening it? add one in a found line? |
| 05:45.03 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, somthing like /etc/init.d/<service name> restart |
| 05:45.10 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: there is no requirement for that; if you don't want the server, you don't want x-window-system-core, you just want the appropriate client libraries. |
| 05:45.12 | mwilson | Huh. IMHO that's broken. |
| 05:45.21 | peterS | mwilson: x-window-system-core, if you hadn't noticed, is a metapackage. that means it installs a bundle of packages that most users will want together |
| 05:45.34 | mwilson | Thank you, I *do* know what a meta-package is. |
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| 05:45.36 | peterS | mwilson: you are free not to install x-window-system-core, and to just install the component packages. that's most likely what you want |
| 05:45.52 | jeffrin | peterS : is GNU portable threads same as POSIX threads |
| 05:45.58 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, what irc server do you have running? |
| 05:46.06 | peterS | jeffrin: GNU pth is a different implementation of pthreads |
| 05:46.12 | peterS | jeffrin: the one in libc is the usual implementation |
| 05:46.15 | Sazpaimon | You'll slap me, but unrealircd |
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| 05:46.26 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: moreover, it's not like this is new... x-window-system-core has dependend on an x-server since at least woody |
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| 05:46.43 | peterS | jeffrin: GNU pth is implemented entirely in userspace, it doesn't use kernel-based threads at all. IIRC. |
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| 05:47.05 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, if you are not a seasoned irc operator i would recommend dancer |
| 05:47.05 | dondelelcaro | (which appears to be the first release that it appeared in...) |
| 05:47.17 | mwilson | Hm, has it? I don't remember it that way... I remember Branden being rather vehement that it did not. But I'd have to dig out my Woody CD's to find out for sure. |
| 05:47.26 | dondelelcaro | !depends x-window-system-core woody |
| 05:47.30 | dpkg | x-window-system-core: depends on xserver-xfree86, xlibmesa3, xfonts-base (>> 4.0), xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable, xbase-clients, xutils |
| 05:47.43 | dondelelcaro | !+depends x-window-system-core potato |
| 05:47.45 | dpkg | Package 'x-window-system-core' does not exist. |
| 05:47.54 | peterS | mwilson: no you wouldn't, http://packages.debian.org/x-window-system-core still has 'oldstable' in it |
| 05:48.04 | mwilson | It had some other name in Potato, I disremember what. |
| 05:48.10 | orixilus | hi... i just installed debian on my laptop and i can't seem to configure X to display above 800x600... i tried xconfig86 and dpkg-reconfigure with no success. can anybody help me out? |
| 05:48.13 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, again study all your logs carefully |
| 05:48.21 | Sazpaimon | WIsh I could |
| 05:48.24 | Sazpaimon | Im not at my server |
| 05:48.29 | Sazpaimon | unless I fly out to new york |
| 05:48.46 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, you cant connect through ssh? |
| 05:48.56 | mwilson | <shrug> Guess I'm wrong... isn't the first time, won't be the last time. |
| 05:48.58 | Sazpaimon | nope |
| 05:49.06 | Sazpaimon | I cant access the server remotely any way at all |
| 05:49.15 | Sazpaimon | Im relaying all this to a friend |
| 05:49.18 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, anyone cant reboot your machine manually? |
| 05:49.27 | Sazpaimon | tried it |
| 05:49.34 | Sazpaimon | machine rebooted, and same happened |
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| 05:49.52 | ke6isf | !tell orixilus -about laptops |
| 05:49.56 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, iaa your lost there |
| 05:49.56 | ke6isf | !tell orixilus -about laptop |
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| 05:50.11 | ke6isf | orixilus: ...sorry about the dupe. |
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| 05:50.29 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: why? |
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| 05:50.47 | orixilus | ke6isf: tks... :) |
| 05:50.53 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, so what, there's nothin that can be done? |
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| 05:51.08 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, last q: what version of debian are you running? |
| 05:51.29 | Sazpaimon | should be the latest |
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| 05:51.36 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, and can you ping your box? |
| 05:51.43 | Sazpaimon | nope |
| 05:51.52 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: There should be a meta-package that gets you the normal libraries without having to have the server. The continuing balkanization of the X libraries makes it difficult if not impossible to get everything installed that should be installed. |
| 05:52.01 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, i think nothing can be done remotely then |
| 05:52.04 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: almost nothing should be depending upon x-window-system-core. In fact, here the only things that do are the kde metapackage, showeq (a bug, most likely), etc. |
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| 05:52.16 | Sazpaimon | yea |
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| 05:52.24 | Sazpaimon | Im relaying all messages to a friend who's at the box now |
| 05:52.24 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: any client that requires those libraries sure as hell better depend on them and install them. |
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| 05:52.41 | Sazpaimon | its the latest debian (testing) |
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| 05:52.54 | jdrake | Does sarge -netinst have a 2.6 kernel on it? |
| 05:52.57 | dondelelcaro | jdrake: yes. |
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| 05:53.30 | ke6isf | jdrake: On boot, do 'linux26' or somesuch. See F3 or F4 (been so long...) for that option. |
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| 05:53.41 | peterS | mwilson: if it's just the libraries you want, there are still the 'xlibs' and 'xlibs-dev' packages. that may go away eventually, mind |
| 05:53.46 | foo | How can I get quicktime player? I think I need config sources to get mplayerplugin installed |
| 05:53.50 | jdrake | i tried the business card version and it didn't seem to have one and my tulip network card seems to be detected but wouldn't work with settings - and my usb keyboard was not detected either |
| 05:53.56 | dondelelcaro | [about the only thing marginally useful for a headless machine in x-window-system-core is xbase-clients anyway] |
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| 05:54.23 | CraZy671 | how do I isntall openoffice2.0? |
| 05:54.32 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: that's pretty much straight a question of maintainability; there's cruft in X that no one has any idea about and it's almost impossible to properly maintain a monolithic tree like that |
| 05:54.34 | jdrake | and i know that it is possible to upgrade from i386 sarge to i386 etch, but is it possible to do i386 sarge to amd64 etch? |
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| 05:54.39 | peterS | dondelelcaro: right, xbase-clients is a handy thing to keep together, I hope gravity and pals don't split that one up any time soon |
| 05:54.56 | dondelelcaro | peterS: well, in my mind, the only thing of use in there is xauth... |
| 05:55.12 | Coke | CraZy671: download install. |
| 05:55.15 | Sazpaimon | great |
| 05:55.18 | dondelelcaro | but then, I already have my own private set of xauth-static packages |
| 05:55.19 | Sazpaimon | he had to leave |
| 05:55.32 | Sazpaimon | so now there no way to access the server |
| 05:55.34 | CraZy671 | Coke i have 'apt-get -t experimental install openoffice.org' but that didn't seem to work |
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| 05:55.39 | peterS | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 05:55.42 | foo | How can I setup config sources for apt-get ? |
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| 05:55.55 | duncf | jdrake: i doubt it |
| 05:55.58 | jm_ | foo: man apt-setup |
| 05:56.01 | Coke | CraZy671: I don't use experimental, are you sure that package exists? |
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| 05:56.19 | mwilson | too many things in xbase-clients are still very useful |
| 05:56.24 | CraZy671 | I was reading http://openoffice.debian.net/ |
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| 05:56.28 | Gumby | can anyone tell me what the dfsg packages are in sarge? |
| 05:56.40 | peterS | Gumby: eh? almost all packages in sarge are dfsg |
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| 05:56.46 | dondelelcaro | yeah, but they're usually only useful when you're running on the machine with the x server, not too terribly important to have on some other machine |
| 05:56.51 | CraZy671 | i need 2.0 because i am switching over from fedora which has been using 2.0 for quite a while and all my files are in the new format |
| 05:56.51 | Gumby | yeah, what does it mean though? |
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| 05:56.54 | TypoNAM | does a GUI-based (GNOME pref.) package manager exist for debian? :P |
| 05:57.02 | dondelelcaro | (unless you're running a thin client or something) |
| 05:57.07 | Coke | CraZy671: I don't see any package names in that document. |
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| 05:57.11 | ribrdb | anyone have a couple gigs of ram and want to compile a file for me? |
| 05:57.11 | peterS | Gumby: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
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| 05:57.23 | mwilson | I have to disagree with you there... I can't see what difference it makes to an application like xcalc as to where the X server is. |
| 05:57.33 | fando_ | oh sorry, fresh install :) |
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| 05:57.34 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, was the irc server the only thing running on that box? |
| 05:57.36 | Coke | CraZy671: did you add the sources? |
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| 05:57.45 | Coke | CraZy671: the FTP archive sources for apt? |
| 05:57.52 | ke6isf | !tell CraZy671 -about openoffice |
| 05:57.55 | CraZy671 | Coke: no thats probably what i don't know how to do |
| 05:57.59 | duncf | CraZy671: try apt-get install openoffice.org2/experimental |
| 05:58.02 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: there are some exceptions, but frankly I've never used xcalc. |
| 05:58.22 | fando | so, i never owned a laptop before, what are the power issues and what package can help? |
| 05:58.27 | mwilson | One of the really unfortunate design decisions of fontconfig and friends is that network transparency is thrown out. |
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| 05:58.39 | Coke | CraZy671: that page will tell you how, at the bottom. |
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| 05:58.50 | CraZy671 | ok thanks i'll try that |
| 05:58.52 | Gumby | peterS: will have a look thx |
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| 05:58.55 | Coke | CraZy671: http://openoffice.debian.net/install.html |
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| 05:59.06 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: There are very few GUI calculators worth anything at all. Usually I open a *term and use bc, but xcalc has its uses, too. |
| 05:59.10 | systm | hello |
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| 05:59.16 | foo | jm_: hmm, don't I need to add like the mirror ? Where do I get the mirror from? |
| 05:59.21 | systm | Hi? |
| 05:59.22 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: I pretty much use M-x calc; I can't stand non-RPN calculators |
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| 05:59.34 | cat | foo: what mirrors? |
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| 05:59.44 | foo | cat: for sources |
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| 05:59.56 | cat | foo: apt-setup |
| 05:59.58 | systm | does a deb install disk come with gui for configuration? |
| 06:00.12 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: Oh, I'm an RPN-guy myself... I just don't have any reason to run emacs. |
| 06:00.13 | cat | systm: yes |
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| 06:00.21 | systm | FluxBox? |
| 06:00.23 | mwilson | systm: No, why would it? |
| 06:00.32 | jdrake | www.google.com is the best calculator I have seen ;p |
| 06:00.36 | systm | sarcasm isnt nice |
| 06:00.37 | systm | lol |
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| 06:00.40 | ke6isf | systm: It's pretty much text, but it's not rocket science. |
| 06:00.42 | jm_ | foo: did you even read what it does? |
| 06:00.51 | foo | jm_: apt-setup ? |
| 06:00.52 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: right; I just almost always have 2-3 emacs running. |
| 06:00.52 | ke6isf | !lol |
| 06:00.52 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line. Everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a Knoppix user. |
| 06:01.00 | jm_ | foo: yes |
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| 06:01.06 | systm | what do u mean its |
| 06:01.10 | mwilson | Hm... |
| 06:01.22 | mwilson | lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol |
| 06:01.29 | mwilson | There, that should be good for ten of them. |
| 06:01.37 | ke6isf | mwilson: Be nice. We won't have any potential Debian users at that rate. =^^= |
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| 06:01.57 | ke6isf | systm: Um, the install process? That is waht you're looking for, right? |
| 06:02.13 | Coke | ke6isf: bohooo, we don't have any computer iliterates among our user base, I'm so saaaad. ;) |
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| 06:02.26 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: I have no problem with emacs, I just never saw the point to it. |
| 06:02.30 | systm | im just looking to see if the Basic Debian install Disk(s) have FluxBox |
| 06:02.32 | ke6isf | Coke: Bah! Get them hooked! |
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| 06:02.55 | ke6isf | Coke: If they can't figure it out, they walk away! Those that can, just figure it out while the 12:00 flashers melt down! |
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| 06:03.07 | dondelelcaro | mwilson: there are a lot of things in it that are really useful; of course, you can do many of them in other applications... but it's often nice to have it all rolled into one |
| 06:03.09 | mwilson | systm: Ew, why would you want them to? |
| 06:03.30 | systm | becaise im unfimiliar to using a bash |
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| 06:03.34 | systm | or *term |
| 06:03.37 | Coke | No! The correct way to recruit new Debian users is to recommend them Fedora, SuSE or Mandrake. They will use it 12-24 months, get their GNU skills up and then they'll try a Debian system. That's when they'll get hooked. |
| 06:03.41 | bunghole | hi, I have a pc with no cd,floppy,usb. I want to install sarge. How should I go about it. Previously last year I simply had gotten a hold of a vmlinuz + initrd.gz from a friend, and I pointed grub to boot from that, and it went and downloaded all the system for me. I have been searching to find this, but with no luck so far. The only images I can find are for the hd install, but as I understand it, I have to download an ISO image for that |
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| 06:04.27 | dutchfish | Coke, me myself started out on SUSE before i went to DEBIAN |
| 06:04.29 | mwilson | Coke: I *never* recommend Linux to people. |
| 06:04.34 | zamolxes | Coke: apt-get install drakconf doesn't work helpp!1!!1 lolol |
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| 06:04.46 | Coke | mwilson: so, the hurd, is it? |
| 06:04.54 | mwilson | Coke: Hardly. |
| 06:05.02 | bunghole | anyone? |
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| 06:05.16 | jm_ | bunghole: you're wrong, read Installation manual |
| 06:05.25 | bunghole | jm_: what am I wrong about? |
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| 06:05.27 | Sazpaimon | so dutchfish any last suggestions? |
| 06:05.28 | dutchfish | bunghole netinstall? |
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| 06:05.39 | Coke | The point is that #fedora and #mandrake get all the LOL'ers and the better they get with GNU the sooner they will come back to Debian. |
| 06:05.39 | ma3x | hi |
| 06:05.39 | mwilson | The *last* thing I ever want to do is go down that road of recommending to someone that they use Linux (or BSD, or whatever) and end up supporting them. |
| 06:05.42 | ke6isf | bunghole: netinst, natch. |
| 06:05.48 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, i am afraid you and me run out of options on that |
| 06:05.48 | ke6isf | !tell bunghole -about netinst |
| 06:05.51 | ma3x | why my monitor shuts down every 10 mins or more? |
| 06:05.51 | bunghole | english |
| 06:05.53 | bunghole | man |
| 06:05.57 | ma3x | when idle* |
| 06:06.00 | mwilson | Been there once, *never* going there again. |
| 06:06.06 | Sazpaimon | so wait |
| 06:06.09 | Coke | mwilson: you can recommend without having a support agreement |
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| 06:06.16 | ke6isf | bunghole: That *is* English. |
| 06:06.22 | bunghole | natch? |
| 06:06.23 | jm_ | bunghole: the fact that there are no floppy images |
| 06:06.23 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, if its a hosted box ask their to help you out with it |
| 06:06.24 | Sazpaimon | the internet just stopped working on the box |
| 06:06.26 | bunghole | whats a natch? |
| 06:06.30 | Sazpaimon | its not |
| 06:06.31 | ke6isf | bunghole: 'naturally'. |
| 06:06.33 | Sazpaimon | its my own box |
| 06:06.34 | mwilson | Coke: Since when? |
| 06:06.39 | Coke | ma3x: that's APM or ACPI (power management) |
| 06:06.40 | TypoNAM | ma3x: turn off the settings for that in the screen saver preferences |
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| 06:06.45 | bunghole | naturally == english, natch == retarded |
| 06:06.46 | bunghole | anyway |
| 06:06.47 | Sazpaimon | but my friend is looking after it while Im not there |
| 06:06.51 | bunghole | jm_: there used to be |
| 06:06.52 | Coke | mwilson: I recommend you smoke a spliff and think about it. |
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| 06:06.58 | jm_ | bunghole: or initrd/vmlinuz files |
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| 06:07.06 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 06:07.10 | bunghole | jm_: i've done it before, do they not exist anymore? |
| 06:07.14 | ma3x | Coke, I don't have those installed (partial only) |
| 06:07.18 | Sazpaimon | so basically |
| 06:07.22 | Coke | mwilson: (no roll support available) |
| 06:07.23 | tengulre | how to install linux program developtment manual? |
| 06:07.28 | Sazpaimon | ven though eth0 is up |
| 06:07.30 | ma3x | TypoNAM, There is option Make aware of power management, should I check it? |
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| 06:07.34 | Sazpaimon | and its connected to the router |
| 06:07.36 | tengulre | I point documents? |
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| 06:07.41 | Sazpaimon | I for some reason cannot connect to the internet |
| 06:07.42 | jm_ | bunghole: that's what you're saying, I'm telling you you're wrong |
| 06:07.44 | bunghole | jm_: i have install sarge in the past with a vmlinuz/initrd.gz that did not require me to have a pre existing cd or iso image |
| 06:07.47 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, slim change you have a hardware failure on your nic... but changes are better that your box is hacked |
| 06:07.50 | Coke | ma3x: it sounds like it would be your DPMS |
| 06:07.51 | Sazpaimon | nor can others connect to it |
| 06:07.54 | ke6isf | bunghole: You can explain that 'natch' is retarded to dictionary.com. |
| 06:07.57 | mwilson | Coke: Please don't suggest to me that I use drugs. If you do, that is entirely your choice and I support your right to make it, but don't push them on other people. |
| 06:08.00 | ribrdb | can't anyone help an oss developer with a crappy computer? |
| 06:08.01 | bunghole | ke6isf: get over it |
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| 06:08.04 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 06:08.05 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, most likely the latter |
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| 06:08.19 | TypoNAM | does anybody know if a GUI-based (GNOME pref.) package manager exist for debian? |
| 06:08.23 | tengulre | how to install linux program developtment documents? |
| 06:08.23 | bunghole | jm_: it might be the case now, but i know i've done it before |
| 06:08.23 | Sazpaimon | thouh restarting the box did nothing? |
| 06:08.39 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, but if skilled engeneers are there they can tell you that quickly |
| 06:08.42 | cheal | TypoNAM: yes. |
| 06:08.43 | jm_ | bunghole: for fucks sake, are you stupid? it's the same, the files are still there and can be used to boot with GRUB |
| 06:08.46 | ma3x | Coke, xset dpms off-0? |
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| 06:08.54 | ma3x | Coke, how do I check if its really dpms? |
| 06:08.56 | ke6isf | !tell TypoNAM -about synaptic |
| 06:08.57 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, my friend hardly counts as a skilled engineer |
| 06:08.59 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, sadly, remote nothing can be done |
| 06:09.07 | Coke | mwilson: so THAT is why you don't recommend any OS either? don't want to be pushy, ey. |
| 06:09.08 | cheal | TypoNAM: gnome-apt. synaptic is a mucher Gtk package manager |
| 06:09.15 | TypoNAM | owww :) |
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| 06:09.18 | Sazpaimon | whch is why Im relaying messages to my friend from here |
| 06:09.19 | bunghole | jm_: I can't seem to find the files, and no I am not stupid |
| 06:09.21 | mwilson | dondelelcaro: <sigh> emacs-snapshot is broken again. |
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| 06:09.41 | jm_ | bunghole: read installation manual |
| 06:09.44 | bunghole | jm_: the only ones i was able to find were for the hd install, and they reuired me to have an ISO file or a cd |
| 06:09.50 | TypoNAM | cheal: thanks |
| 06:09.53 | Coke | ma3x: you know your hardware and what is enabled in your OS. but if you don't have ACPI support X should simply blank the sceren, not turn the monitor off. |
| 06:09.59 | bunghole | jm_: which section? |
| 06:09.59 | tengulre | who can help me? |
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| 06:10.10 | tengulre | how to install linux program developtment documents? |
| 06:10.14 | ke6isf | bunghole: I already had dpkg tell you about netinst. Are you dense? |
| 06:10.23 | bunghole | ke6isf: dude calm the fuck down |
| 06:10.25 | bunghole | jeez |
| 06:10.28 | Sazpaimon | how exactly is the box permanently hacked? |
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| 06:10.33 | bunghole | whats with all th is personal attack stuff |
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| 06:10.35 | jm_ | bunghole: no they don't |
| 06:10.36 | ma3x | Coke, I can't really tell if it turns off the monitor because it's laptop, but I always get blank screen |
| 06:10.38 | Coke | ma3x: or perhaps DPMS isn't even part of the rest of the power management, I don't know. however, you're on the right track with the xset. you also need to turn off the X blanking. |
| 06:10.40 | bunghole | anyway |
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| 06:10.48 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, you have to study the logs and alot more |
| 06:10.50 | bunghole | jm_: which section in the installatio manual |
| 06:10.54 | ke6isf | bunghole: I am calm, actually, and not personally attacking you. |
| 06:10.55 | Sazpaimon | what fun |
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| 06:11.01 | Coke | ma3x: hang on, checking on my home computer. |
| 06:11.02 | tengulre | SOS!!!! |
| 06:11.04 | ma3x | Coke, how do I turn it off the xblanking? |
| 06:11.06 | Sazpaimon | too bad I canrt see them |
| 06:11.07 | ma3x | Coke, ok... |
| 06:11.09 | Sazpaimon | *can't |
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| 06:11.49 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, can you ping from the console to the outside world as a start? |
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| 06:12.08 | mwilson | Coke: I get paid to have that opinion at work, and I'm responsible for the choices I make. I am NOT at home, and I choose not to be responsible for the choices other people make. |
| 06:12.13 | Sazpaimon | all he told me was he can't access the net from the box |
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| 06:12.16 | christor | Is someone can help me to configure NFS/NIS with autofs |
| 06:12.20 | Sazpaimon | so I assumed he tried to ping |
| 06:12.32 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, assumed? |
| 06:12.33 | bunghole | jm_: do you know for a fact that the location of the vmlinuz/initrd for netinstall that does not require iso/cd is in the installatio manual? |
| 06:12.43 | Sazpaimon | yea, he had to leave |
| 06:12.45 | bunghole | jm_: because I've gone through it almost twice |
| 06:12.46 | Sazpaimon | leaving me out in the dark |
| 06:12.51 | mwilson | What *idiot* decided that emacs-snapshot should behave like that... |
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| 06:13.08 | Coke | ma3x: ok, I can't find the manual, but xset s off; xset s noblank; xset s noexpose is what I have here to get read of the blanking. Then make sure your X11 config has DPMS disabled. |
| 06:13.11 | bunghole | jm_: i might have missed it but I am stil not seeing anything, if you could kindly tell me which section I should be looking for/at |
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| 06:13.15 | tengulre | nobody could help me? |
| 06:13.16 | bunghole | I would be very greatful |
| 06:13.31 | jm_ | bunghole: what would be the point of it if it required an ISO image? |
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| 06:13.57 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, you have 2 options left, fly over or let him do a base reinstall if there is no important data on that box |
| 06:14.08 | bunghole | jm_: that is exactly my point. I have the manual open right here, I can't seem to find the information for those files |
| 06:14.10 | ma3x | usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 |
| 06:14.11 | ma3x | input: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [Logitech WingMan Precision USB] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-2 |
| 06:14.20 | ma3x | I get that and then KDE control center can't recognize it |
| 06:14.22 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, its a webhost |
| 06:14.23 | ma3x | why? |
| 06:14.25 | Sazpaimon | so yea |
| 06:14.31 | Sazpaimon | theres lots of important data |
| 06:14.41 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, if the guys are good they can help you out |
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| 06:14.50 | mwilson | I remember there being a calculator plugin for vim, I think... |
| 06:14.50 | Sazpaimon | what guys? |
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| 06:14.58 | ma3x | Coke, in the Section "Monitor" I have Option "DPMS". Should I rm it? |
| 06:15.02 | Sazpaimon | my freiend? |
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| 06:15.05 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, the ones that hosted your box |
| 06:15.09 | Sazpaimon | he doesnt know what he;s doing half the time |
| 06:15.24 | Coke | ma3x: comment it out at least |
| 06:15.25 | Sazpaimon | the box is my own one |
| 06:15.30 | peterS | ma3x: dunno, make sure you've got the 'usbhid' kernel module loaded |
| 06:15.35 | Sazpaimon | like, I built it |
| 06:15.37 | ma3x | Coke, and anything I should do with xset? |
| 06:15.46 | Sazpaimon | my friend is looking after it |
| 06:16.08 | bunghole | !d-i |
| 06:16.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, d-i is the new installer for Debian 3.1 (Sarge). You ARE installing Sarge and not Woody, right? See http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer |
| 06:16.10 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, its a collocated box? |
| 06:16.10 | ma3x | peterS, when I type lsmod | grep usb it shows usbhid 34432 0 |
| 06:16.24 | Coke | ma3x: yes, I already sent you those. |
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| 06:16.41 | ofer | after installing gcc via apt-get, i cant compile anything because of errors like this one: stdio.h: No such file or directory, i think i have to installed some libraries or something, you know what to install? |
| 06:16.44 | Sazpaimon | collocated as in? |
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| 06:16.49 | peterS | ma3x: might also need the 'joydev' kernel module |
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| 06:17.08 | ma3x | Coke, thanks a lot |
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| 06:17.30 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, google on colocated |
| 06:17.32 | ma3x | peterS, joydev 9952 0 that one's also loaded |
| 06:17.35 | bunghole | im gonna go spank it, with a thumb up my ass |
| 06:17.47 | ma3x | peterS, but on connect of joystick I get 10 lines like: serial8250: too much work for irq10 |
| 06:17.58 | peterS | ma3x: then the joystick should be ready for use. if kde doesn't think so, I don't know why not |
| 06:18.03 | ke6isf | How... lovely. |
| 06:18.05 | peterS | ma3x: and serial8250 shouldn't have anything to do with USB |
| 06:18.15 | cheal | when a package released in a stable releases changed maintainer, which maintainer is responsible for maintaining the stable version of the package? |
| 06:18.34 | peterS | ma3x: serial8250 is those old-style 9-pin or 25-pin serial ports |
| 06:18.36 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, not really collocated |
| 06:18.37 | dondelelcaro | cheal: the new maintainer; but it's good practice for the old maintainer to assist if possible. |
| 06:18.40 | Sazpaimon | ts my own box |
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| 06:18.43 | Sazpaimon | my own pipe |
| 06:18.44 | ma3x | peterS, Should I attach it somehow, I mean what device is it? |
| 06:18.47 | cheal | dondelelcaro: ok, thanks |
| 06:18.59 | peterS | ma3x: should be /dev/input/js0 |
| 06:19.19 | peterS | poor clarke, been having a real hard day |
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| 06:19.21 | Sazpaimon | Um OK |
| 06:19.37 | dondelelcaro | cheal: of course, in reality the only support that stable gets is security, and that's often the security team doing that bit |
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| 06:20.00 | foo | How do I get quicktime working in firefox browser? |
| 06:20.01 | cheal | dondelelcaro: yeah...this was a quite theorical question :) |
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| 06:20.53 | jm_ | foo: http://membres.lycos.fr/sethnakht/ |
| 06:20.59 | ofer0 | after installing gcc via apt-get, i cant compile anything because of errors like this one: stdio.h: No such file or directory, i think i have to installed some libraries or something, you know what to install? |
| 06:21.10 | peterS | !b-e ofer0 |
| 06:21.11 | dpkg | ofer0: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 06:21.21 | hairy_potter | is there a way I can load an arbitrary kernel module (like sata_via.o) through the boot loader? |
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| 06:21.32 | hairy_potter | peterS: ! |
| 06:21.36 | peterS | hairy_potter: no, best you can do is create an appropriate initrd |
| 06:21.38 | Sazpaimon | dutchfish, so yea |
| 06:21.43 | ofer0 | peterS, thanx!!! :) |
| 06:21.43 | hairy_potter | peterS: how are you? :) |
| 06:21.44 | Sazpaimon | no ideas? |
| 06:21.51 | peterS | hairy_potter: doing fine, yourself? it's been awhile |
| 06:22.00 | hairy_potter | peterS: yup. am doing fine too! |
| 06:22.02 | Sazpaimon | other than tell him to reinstall debian? |
| 06:22.07 | ma3x | peterS, I successfully opened it, permissions were set for root only |
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| 06:22.17 | peterS | ma3x: that could make a difference (: |
| 06:22.21 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: what is actually happening with that machine, anyway? |
| 06:22.28 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, then you are responsable yourself to reinstall or fix it, or pay them to do it for you |
| 06:22.38 | Sazpaimon | pay my friend? |
| 06:22.55 | Sazpaimon | he's just a rommate of mine that said he'd look after the server for me |
| 06:23.01 | Sazpaimon | it was in my house and stuff |
| 06:23.01 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, or someone else in the vacinity that knows what he is doing |
| 06:23.23 | ma3x | peterS, thanks! |
| 06:23.27 | peterS | ma3x: np |
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| 06:23.34 | Sazpaimon | dondelelcaro, basically someone flooded the IRC part of my server |
| 06:23.40 | Sazpaimon | and now it wont connect to the internet |
| 06:23.49 | peterS | and now maher shows up |
| 06:23.52 | Sazpaimon | its getting dropped packets and stuff |
| 06:23.56 | peterS | all kinds 'o' people I never see anymore |
| 06:24.04 | Sazpaimon | and I cant access it remotely |
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| 06:24.59 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: can you traceroute to it? can someone log into the console and traceroute out of it? have you checked the wiring leading to and from the machine? |
| 06:25.26 | ke6isf | Sazpaimon: What exactly happens when you attempt to ssh to it? |
| 06:25.30 | Sazpaimon | the wirin is allright |
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| 06:25.42 | Sazpaimon | ke6isf, if I ssh into its IP, it times out |
| 06:26.10 | ke6isf | Sazpaimon: Not even a password prompt? |
| 06:26.15 | Sazpaimon | nope |
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| 06:27.13 | dabaR | by what? |
| 06:27.22 | mwilson | ke6isf: Because you don't need one? |
| 06:27.39 | ke6isf | dabaR: Read up on Sazpaimon's problems. |
| 06:27.44 | foo | jm_: thanks, but that doesn't work. It still says missing plugin. I did restart the browser |
| 06:27.53 | ke6isf | mwilson: That, and you're just *asking* to be attacked if you run one. |
| 06:28.12 | maher | peterS: maybe i've just been in a different time zone.. ;) |
| 06:28.19 | ke6isf | mwilson: But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. |
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| 06:28.26 | peterS | maher: maybe. like what time zone? |
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| 06:28.58 | Sazpaimon | so ye |
| 06:28.58 | Sazpaimon | a |
| 06:29.07 | Sazpaimon | I'm pretty much SOL right now |
| 06:29.16 | peterS | maher: or maybe I just spend less time in #debian than I did in 2004. I just don't remember seeing you here in awhile, I could be wrong |
| 06:29.23 | maher | peterS: umm... well i wasn't really irc-ing much from europe or peru, but I'm west coast us - maybe i've just been getting up earlier |
| 06:29.24 | jm_ | foo: check what the page asks |
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| 06:30.00 | Sazpaimon | I'll have him try other things tomorrow |
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| 06:30.13 | peterS | maher: yeah your hostmask makes it obvious that you're logged in from west coast us. I thought by that comment that perhaps you were remoting in from elsewhere in the world |
| 06:30.15 | Sazpaimon | FOr now I guess I'll sleep |
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| 06:30.27 | dutchfish | Sazpaimon, good luck |
| 06:30.36 | Sazpaimon | I'll need it |
| 06:30.50 | Sazpaimon | I'll be expecting 50 messages from clients bitching at me in the morning |
| 06:30.55 | Sazpaimon | :rolleyes: |
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| 06:31.42 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: this is precisely why you don't set up servers that actually matter that don't have remote console, preferably through an entirely different form of transport than the main network. |
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| 06:32.17 | dutchfish | dondelelcaro, a good advice |
| 06:32.36 | Sazpaimon | good advice indeed |
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| 06:32.52 | maher | dondelelcaro: does a pstn to your mum count as alternate access :) |
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| 06:33.06 | Sazpaimon | I was planing on building a second server for other non-web related programs |
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| 06:33.14 | Sazpaimon | like IRC, shoutcast, etc |
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| 06:33.25 | Sazpaimon | but money is tight |
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| 06:33.45 | peterS | maher: wouldn't count for me. my mom doesn't offer the detailed kind of console access I'd need. the interface is rather too coarse-grained |
| 06:34.29 | streuner | hm |
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| 06:35.15 | streuner | so where is the source of debhelper? |
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| 06:35.42 | peterS | streuner: dude, you know who owns debhelper, you could just ask him |
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| 06:36.12 | streuner | peterS: dude, he is already in channel... |
| 06:36.19 | maher | sweet! |
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| 06:36.26 | peterS | yes. so maybe address your question, which the rest of us won't know the answer to, specifically to don |
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| 06:37.09 | streuner | peterS: and don't call me dude |
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| 06:37.19 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:38.05 | LordMyren | today was just a crappy day for electronic karma |
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| 06:38.12 | LordMyren | i had all sorts of shit just going wrong left and right |
| 06:38.18 | LordMyren | that fucking server is /finally/ moving |
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| 06:38.25 | LordMyren | barely |
| 06:38.38 | nvz | yeah its the humidity from the Hurricanes or Typhoons depending on what part of the world you are in |
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| 06:39.21 | nvz | my friend claims these storms are a form of population control.. since they are hitting the two most densly populated countries America and China. I think the earth is trying to shake us off like a bad case of fleas |
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| 06:39.36 | unixfool_ | whenever I run "date" or "ls -l" or anything that prints the date on my box it segfaults on syscall "clock_gettime." Anyone know what might cause that? |
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| 06:40.06 | dutchfish | i know its off topic but all those victims of the hurricane have my sympathy |
| 06:40.07 | peterS | unixfool_: probably not on that syscall, probably just after |
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| 06:40.20 | peterS | unixfool_: wild guess, I suspect your timezone or locale generated files |
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| 06:40.39 | peterS | unixfool_: i.e., the strftime() library call is failing, probably due to one of the above |
| 06:40.50 | bucky | dutchfish, 400,000 people from New Orleans alone |
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| 06:41.11 | jm_ | should be visible from stack trace, unless it really corrupts your stack |
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| 06:41.19 | unixfool_ | peterS, hmm, will look into, thanks |
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| 06:43.42 | peterS | unixfool_: what I'm talking about is /usr/share/zoneinfo (from the libc6 package), /etc/locale.*, /etc/timezone |
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| 06:44.07 | nvz | I dont know I think I am gonna try hookin this fucker back up.. >:o) |
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| 06:44.51 | peterS | unixfool_: oh yeah and /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive which is generated by 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' |
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| 06:48.40 | pygrammer | hey -- anyone know why it's so damn hard to install wx/wxPython? i'm just trying to get it to work so i can use iPodder |
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| 06:48.54 | pygrammer | it took like an hour to compile the stupid thing |
| 06:48.54 | streuner | pygrammer: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 06:49.18 | pygrammer | ii libc6 2.3.5-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
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| 06:49.42 | pygrammer | i replaced it with a package from packages.debian.org since i'm on testing, but perhaps it hasn't updated, or is that the correct version? |
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| 06:49.52 | dondelelcaro | pygrammer: any reason why you didn't just install wxpython2.4-1 or whatever |
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| 06:50.11 | streuner | pygrammer: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 06:50.17 | pygrammer | dondelelcaro: yeah, it's too old of a version, it's a documented "problem" |
| 06:50.17 | streuner | pygrammer: /msg dpkg search |
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| 06:50.25 | pygrammer | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'PyEventBinder' |
| 06:50.33 | pygrammer | i need 2.5 or 2. |
| 06:50.34 | pygrammer | 2.6* |
| 06:51.16 | dondelelcaro | pygrammer: tried python-wxtools? |
| 06:52.02 | pygrammer | dondelelcaro: nope, let me try that |
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| 06:52.44 | tengulre | hi,all |
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| 06:53.04 | streuner_ | !info python-wxtools |
| 06:53.06 | tengulre | who know which deb is contain linux documents? |
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| 06:53.10 | dpkg | python-wxtools: (wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython common files)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.6.1.2 (sid), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 136 kB |
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| 06:53.20 | pygrammer | dondelelcaro: nope, still get AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'PyEventBinder' |
| 06:53.22 | peterS | tengulre: lots of them. be more specific |
| 06:53.27 | pygrammer | plus, i get strange locale warnings |
| 06:53.35 | pygrammer | maybe that's libc6 |
| 06:53.36 | pygrammer | Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library |
| 06:53.40 | syntaxx | my tv doesnt have sound. what do i need to check for? |
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| 06:53.47 | tengulre | peterS, about C API functions! |
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| 06:53.53 | peterS | tengulre: manpages-dev |
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| 06:54.24 | streuner_ | pygrammer: show us your sources.list in paster (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 06:54.27 | dondelelcaro | pygrammer: those warnings sound like you haven't built the currently running locale. |
| 06:54.32 | tengulre | peterS, thanks! |
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| 06:54.38 | peterS | np |
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| 06:55.18 | pygrammer | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free |
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| 06:55.19 | tengulre | peterS, I installed manpages-dev package, but I could not use 'man pthread_create'! |
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| 06:55.26 | pygrammer | dondelelcaro pygrammer: those warnings sound like you haven't built the currently running locale. |
| 06:55.34 | pygrammer | what did I do wrong? |
| 06:55.38 | pygrammer | i installed libc6 |
| 06:55.38 | peterS | tengulre: pthread_* are a special case. they are apparently in glibc-doc, which I don't have installed |
| 06:55.47 | pygrammer | the .deb |
| 06:55.51 | streuner_ | pygrammer: you are running sid and using etch |
| 06:56.20 | pygrammer | streuner: i said i was using testing ... |
| 06:56.37 | pygrammer | i don't understand what you're saying |
| 06:56.38 | pygrammer | i think i'm using etch |
| 06:56.45 | pygrammer | or whatever the new testing's called |
| 06:56.47 | streuner_ | pygrammer: you think... |
| 06:56.48 | dondelelcaro | pygrammer: 1) run dpkg-reconfigure locales; and build the locale that you're using. 2) remove wxpython2.4-1; or whatever you've got. |
| 06:56.50 | tengulre | peterS: I installed glibc-doc, and it's OK! ;) thanks! |
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| 06:57.08 | streuner_ | !info libc6 etch |
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| 06:57.11 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 (etch), Packaged size: 4784 kB, Installed size: 15548 kB |
| 06:57.29 | streuner_ | pygrammer: YOU ARE running SID/UNSTABLE |
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| 06:57.39 | streuner_ | NOT testing |
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| 06:57.58 | pygrammer | dpkg-reconfigure locales; and build the locale that you're using. 2) remove wxpython2.4-1; or whatever you've got. |
| 06:57.58 | pygrammer | tengulre peterS: I installed glibc-doc, and it's OK! ;) thanks! |
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| 06:57.58 | pygrammer | streuner_ !info libc6 etch |
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| 06:58.01 | tengulre | who know how many threads is max limited in debian? I want to create over 255 threads. |
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| 06:58.19 | pygrammer | sorry all! |
| 06:58.21 | pygrammer | didn't mean to do that |
| 06:58.21 | tengulre | pygrammer, what's your mean? |
| 06:58.22 | streuner_ | pygrammer: so correct your sources.list first |
| 06:58.28 | pygrammer | streuner: but it says testing... |
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| 06:58.45 | pygrammer | tengulre: ? |
| 06:59.10 | streuner_ | pygrammer: that's NOT relevant what's in your sources.list is in this case... |
| 06:59.28 | streuner_ | pygrammer: relevant is what version you have installed (libc6) |
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| 06:59.56 | pygrammer | streuner: i installed libc6 myself... |
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| 07:00.18 | pygrammer | because it was a dependency of the .deb package for wx 2.6 |
| 07:00.19 | streuner_ | pygrammer: well, WE all install files by themself ;-) |
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| 07:01.01 | pygrammer | streuner_: ? |
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| 07:01.13 | pygrammer | so, what should I do? i need the new version of wx |
| 07:01.21 | drew_ | is simply installing firestarter enough? or is there some configuring to do? |
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| 07:01.31 | streuner_ | pygrammer: edit your sources.list to unstable |
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| 07:01.43 | pygrammer | streuner_: uh, why? i like testing |
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| 07:01.48 | streuner_ | pygrammer: run apt-get update & apt-get upgrade |
| 07:01.57 | pygrammer | unstable is sometimes unstable! |
| 07:01.58 | streuner_ | pygrammer: uhm, in this case reinstall |
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| 07:02.42 | pygrammer | streuner: wtf are you saying? |
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| 07:03.09 | streuner_ | pygrammer: iam saying that you haven't any idea about unstable, so /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 07:03.15 | pygrammer | streuner: i did |
| 07:03.16 | streuner_ | that's what i told you before |
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| 07:03.32 | dondelelcaro | streuner_: just relax; work the problem... if you need, /ignore the user. |
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| 07:03.47 | pygrammer | dondelelcaro: well, i'm confused |
| 07:03.49 | pygrammer | no need to ignore me |
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| 07:03.53 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: good advice :-) |
| 07:03.57 | Gil_ | is the dpkg bot dead? |
| 07:04.00 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 07:04.00 | dpkg | Since Wed Aug 31 01:21:14 2005, there have been 1 modification, 100 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 36 commands. I have been awake for 5h 42m 46s this session, and currently reference 26223 factoids. I'm using about 14784 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 42.25/2.28 child 87.65/6.71 |
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| 07:04.10 | GmLB | I am trying to upgrade to the latest unstable debian tree... and apt-get dist-upgrade is giving me a lot of errors starting with "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." |
| 07:04.12 | pygrammer | ok, so i shouldn't have installed libc6 myself... |
| 07:04.14 | syntaxx | my tv doesnt have sound. what do i need to check for? |
| 07:04.14 | Gil_ | !tell Gil_ about kde3.4 |
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| 07:04.28 | pygrammer | but what should i do know? |
| 07:04.30 | dondelelcaro | GmLB: run dpkg-reconfigure locales; and build the appropriate locale that you're actually using. |
| 07:04.32 | Gil_ | weird.. didn't respond to privmsg |
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| 07:04.34 | pygrammer | agh *no |
| 07:04.35 | pygrammer | now* |
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| 07:04.40 | Gil_ | dondelelcaro: thx! |
| 07:04.41 | Niriven | opps |
| 07:04.46 | streuner_ | Gil_: you need to be identified |
| 07:04.47 | pygrammer | i need to fix this and get things back the way they were |
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| 07:04.52 | pygrammer | and get wxPython 2.6 working |
| 07:04.56 | Gil_ | streuner_: aah, right |
| 07:04.59 | streuner_ | Gil_: atm |
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| 07:05.01 | GmLB | dondelelcaro, I get "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed" |
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| 07:05.46 | GmLB | dondelelcaro, Is there some other process I need to use to build locals? |
| 07:06.09 | pygrammer | please guys, any advice? |
| 07:06.36 | streuner_ | pygrammer: as i told you before, reinstall or use unstable |
| 07:06.44 | Shaoran | Is there a dpgk-reconfigure for network? |
| 07:06.47 | nvz | would it be relatively easy to put 3 nics in this box and use it like a hub or a bridge so I can hook up 3 pcs down here when I only have one ethernet cable going to the modem? |
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| 07:07.15 | dondelelcaro | GmLB: apt-get --reinstall install locales; then try again. |
| 07:07.16 | pygrammer | streuner: i just don't understand at all why you're telling me to reinstall my entire system just because of libc6 |
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| 07:07.26 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yerp |
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| 07:07.55 | dondelelcaro | nvz: probably cheaper to get a cheapoid hub, but it can be done with nics |
| 07:07.57 | dutchfish | nvz, look at smoothwall express for an easy way out, its debian based |
| 07:08.00 | cheal | Shaoran: you'd have to recise what you're trying to do |
| 07:08.01 | GmLB | dondelelcaro, Thanks |
| 07:08.07 | cheal | s/recise/precise |
| 07:08.30 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yeah well in case you never heard it, my philosophy is dont spend money on things that arent making money. and I dont do computer work for profit anymore |
| 07:08.43 | Niriven | Does anyone see any performance issuses with runnig a newer (2.4/2.6) kernel on an older machine? |
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| 07:08.56 | nvz | dondelelcaro: all this hardware was donated to me for free |
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| 07:09.02 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yeah, if you've already got a ton of nics, it doesn't matter. |
| 07:09.16 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I got em, just dont know how to set it up :P |
| 07:09.19 | dondelelcaro | nvz: just turn on forwarding, and the packets should flow |
| 07:09.21 | streuner_ | *plonk* |
| 07:09.29 | dutchfish | Niriven, if you have enough memory 2.6 might be a bit faster but not always |
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| 07:09.31 | Shaoran | Well, apt-get is insisting on connecting to ftp.debian.org through port 8080, and it's failing on every other mirror I'm trying. |
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| 07:09.44 | sep | nvz: just do it then, add nicks, assign all nics to bridge, assign the local pc's ip to the bridge interface. it works |
| 07:10.00 | pygrammer | streuner: i just don't understand at all why you're telling me to reinstall my entire system just because of libc6 |
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| 07:10.18 | Niriven | dutchfish: 166mhz, 64mb ram |
| 07:10.19 | pygrammer | what did i do that would cause me to have to reinstall??? |
| 07:10.23 | pygrammer | are you just trying to fuck me over, or what? |
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| 07:10.36 | nvz | sep: you might as well be using ancient egyptian hieroglyphic fonts for all the sense that makes for me |
| 07:10.44 | GmLB | Can a reiser-3 partition be upgraded to reiser-4? |
| 07:10.47 | Niriven | pygrammer: libc can seriously mess up your system, most things require it |
| 07:10.54 | nvz | I am lucky I can configure one interface.. I sure dont know how to configure multiple ones to do what I want |
| 07:11.02 | pygrammer | Niriven: well, it did tell me to restart X11 |
| 07:11.02 | dutchfish | Niriven, its not much ram, you could test it, but changes are there is not much diiference 2.6 might even be slower depending on your memeory needs |
| 07:11.13 | pygrammer | so if i do that, perhaps it would work? |
| 07:11.15 | Niriven | pygrammer: what did you do to libc? |
| 07:11.47 | dutchfish | dutchfish, for a lan server i would recoomend 2.6 |
| 07:12.08 | rking | darnit! i missed the free opera registration by 10 minutes. |
| 07:12.21 | sep | nvz, first install needed software the brodge tools etc |
| 07:12.25 | pygrammer | Niriven: i'm using etch, and i installed the new libc6, 2.3.5-6 |
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| 07:12.30 | peterS | nvz: start by installing bridge-utils and reading what docs you find |
| 07:12.37 | nvz | I want to use this box as the bridge/router/hub whatever it shall be. I wonder if I should reinstall.. its got Etch on it right now. Maybe I should install sarge on it |
| 07:12.42 | pygrammer | replaced my old one, 2.3.2.dsl-22 |
| 07:12.44 | sep | nvz, bridge-utils |
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| 07:12.59 | nvz | peterS: k. docs is good :) |
| 07:13.01 | pygrammer | it told me i'd probably have to restart services |
| 07:13.07 | peterS | nvz: hub == bridge, as far as the software stack goes. a bridge is actually a bit more sophisticated. if you want a router, that's a whole nuther kettle of fish |
| 07:13.17 | Niriven | pygrammer: Oh, if you just replaced it, you should be ok. If you hack at it (like i tried) you could seriously down your system. |
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| 07:13.22 | sep | nvz, and the bridge-utils docs are in /usr/share/doc |
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| 07:13.44 | nvz | sep: yeah I know where docs are |
| 07:13.44 | pygrammer | Niriven: no, i didn't hack at it, but what should i do? replace it with the old one? i need the new version of wx/wxPython though! |
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| 07:14.05 | pygrammer | and it's impossible to install it from source; i get all these errors |
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| 07:14.14 | pygrammer | but they're not compilation errors |
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| 07:14.25 | sep | nvz, point is your pc will not have ip's on eth0 anymore, it wil have them on br0, so you can just replace eth0 with br0 in your interfaces file. |
| 07:14.25 | pygrammer | just path and other annoying errors |
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| 07:14.26 | Niriven | apt-get it |
| 07:14.32 | peterS | nvz: the idea is you tie eth0 eth1 eth2 eth3 etc all into one bridge device, br0 |
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| 07:14.40 | pygrammer | Niriven: i have it, but it's too early a version (2.4) |
| 07:14.42 | peterS | nvz: that's what sep was talking about earlier |
| 07:14.47 | pygrammer | Niriven: i need 2.5 or 2.6 |
| 07:14.50 | nvz | peterS: dont really need a router. but since my network is fairly insecure setting up my own nat firewall wouldnt hurt.. but I dont figure that automatically makes it a router just having a firewall on it? |
| 07:14.51 | pygrammer | which is in sid |
| 07:15.00 | Niriven | pygrammer: Why do you need the new libc? Is it absolutally requird by something? |
| 07:15.02 | pygrammer | hence i got libc6 and other things to fulfill the depends |
| 07:15.05 | pygrammer | yeah |
| 07:15.14 | pygrammer | it's a dependency of wx 2.6 |
| 07:15.15 | Niriven | pygrammer: Did you try to install it from unstable? I forget what sid is |
| 07:15.21 | nvz | peterS: well if its a nat firewall maybe |
| 07:15.21 | pygrammer | unstable |
| 07:15.22 | pygrammer | yes |
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| 07:15.25 | pygrammer | i'm using testing |
| 07:15.28 | peterS | nvz: NAT implies routing. firewalling doesn't technically require routing, or NAT, but is commonly used with them |
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| 07:15.32 | pygrammer | sid = unstable |
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| 07:15.36 | nvz | peterS: but just having a firewall on the bridge wouldnt mean its a router |
| 07:15.41 | Niriven | pygrammer: And libc6 isnt in there? |
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| 07:15.46 | peterS | nvz: right, and that can be done. I have no idea how. |
| 07:15.51 | nvz | heh |
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| 07:16.00 | pygrammer | Niriven: it is ... but 2.3.2 is too old for wx 2.6 |
| 07:16.02 | nvz | peterS: its called a transparent firewall in that case I thinl |
| 07:16.07 | pygrammer | 2.5.6 or w/e is a dependency of wx |
| 07:16.09 | peterS | nvz: somethin like that |
| 07:16.12 | pygrammer | hence why it's in unstable |
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| 07:16.23 | nvz | peterS: as it filters packets but its not routing them |
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| 07:16.55 | sep | nvz, you have public ip's on all computers in lan or do you have a nat routersomewhere already ? |
| 07:17.07 | Niriven | pygrammer: wx 2.6 isnt in debian apt unstable? |
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| 07:18.02 | pygrammer | Niriven: ughh... it *IS*, but it requires libc6 2.5 |
| 07:18.09 | pygrammer | which i don't *have*, because i'm on *etch* |
| 07:18.11 | pygrammer | (testing) |
| 07:18.13 | nvz | sep: I got a shitty Motorola Surfboard Modem/Router/WirelessAP deal its a piece of shit. firewalling off my own little subnet would be more secure.. especially since all the other clients are wireless WinXP and mine are wired debian boxes |
| 07:18.18 | sep | nvz: you have to descide if you want to bridge or route :P but the example in /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/README.Debian.gz is just what you are trying to do if you go for a bridge |
| 07:18.22 | peterS | pygrammer: you don't mean libc6 2.5. what *do* you mean? |
| 07:18.47 | nvz | sep: I dont think I need to route maybe what would be best is a transparent firewall I was talking about.. basically a bridge with a firewall on it |
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| 07:19.00 | streuner | peterS: he's running unstable and thinks he running testing |
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| 07:19.07 | sep | nvz, i never firewall off debian boxes, i only use debian firewalls to protect the windows pc's behind it. |
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| 07:19.19 | Niriven | pygrammer: If its in apt, it should install the deps. needed to do it |
| 07:19.22 | pygrammer | peterS: yes i do |
| 07:19.25 | streuner | peterS: he's running the version of libc6 (sid)... |
| 07:19.29 | dutchfish | nvz, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-bridge-fw.en.html |
| 07:19.44 | sep | nvz, shorewall also have a nice howto on bridging firewall on shorewall.net |
| 07:19.45 | peterS | pygrammer: libc6 2.5 does not exist. ergo you cannot actually mean that. tell us what you do mean. |
| 07:19.48 | pygrammer | yes, i'm running etch, but i got libc6 2.5 so i could install wxPython 2.6 |
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| 07:19.56 | pygrammer | 2.3.5 or w/e |
| 07:19.56 | nvz | sep: yeah well I am thinking of putting Win98 back on this dell I just got.. since its got enough hw to run it, and I sometimes could use a windows box |
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| 07:20.03 | pygrammer | anyway, it's the sid version |
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| 07:20.08 | pygrammer | i forget version numbers |
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| 07:20.16 | pygrammer | instead of 2.3.2 |
| 07:20.18 | peterS | pygrammer: if you can't be precise about this stuff, and you think it doesn't matter, I'm quite sure we can't help you |
| 07:20.20 | streuner | !info libc6 sid |
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| 07:20.24 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-6 (sid), Packaged size: 4815 kB, Installed size: 16356 kB |
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| 07:20.29 | pygrammer | ^ that one -- 2.3.5-6 |
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| 07:20.39 | syntaxx | what if i forgot something on my kernel.. how can i recompile it? make-kpgk clean? |
| 07:20.40 | pygrammer | and i *was* originally running 2.3.2.dsl-22 |
| 07:20.56 | nvz | sep: that will leave me with Win98 Dell, Debian on the Vectra which will become my bridge, and Debian on my compaq desktop |
| 07:21.17 | pygrammer | but i wanted to install the new version of wxPython for a program that requires the new version of it, so i needed the *SID* version of it. but to get the SID version, i needed libc6 2.3.5-6 |
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| 07:21.43 | sep | nvz, well it's your funeral, i dont think there is anything i would want with a win98 anyway :P |
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| 07:22.23 | pygrammer | so should i just install the old version of libc6 back? |
| 07:22.30 | nvz | what a network I got HP Vectra Pentium233 80mb Ram, Dell OptiPlex PIII 667mhz 128MB and Compaq Presario AthlonXP 1700+ 512MB |
| 07:22.32 | pygrammer | it's just that i need wxPython 2.4 |
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| 07:22.35 | nvz | bunch of shitty pcs |
| 07:22.40 | streuner | peterS: i explained it 20 minutes, but he didn't even listen to me... |
| 07:22.40 | pygrammer | and i don't feel like compiling it from source -- a huge hassle with wxPython |
| 07:22.42 | peterS | pygrammer: does the new version of libc actually break anything for you? |
| 07:22.46 | dondelelcaro | pygrammer: yes, and then actually build the 2.6 package against your version of libc6. |
| 07:22.46 | nvz | but they are all free! |
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| 07:22.54 | peterS | pygrammer: if not, keep it. downgrading is sometimes a bit risky, though it often works ok |
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| 07:23.07 | pygrammer | peterS: it has locale warnings |
| 07:23.11 | pygrammer | and perl spits out errors about locales |
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| 07:23.27 | peterS | pygrammer: have you got the matching version of the 'locales' package? |
| 07:23.40 | peterS | pygrammer: if you just pulled down libc6 as an independent .deb file, you won't, is why I'm asking |
| 07:23.40 | sep | Eclipser, i have a ND100 with 15 monocrome terminals and a 20 MB harddrive that takes up most of my garage. but it's not _USED_ for anything |
| 07:23.48 | pygrammer | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.03 | peterS | pygrammer: I'd suggest pulling down the 'locales' and 'libc6-dev' packages and putting those on |
| 07:24.14 | pygrammer | peterS: so, if i install that, it should be ok? |
| 07:24.16 | peterS | pygrammer: if you ever need them later in life, you'll regret not having the same version as your libc6 package |
| 07:24.17 | pygrammer | don't have to worry about downgrading? |
| 07:24.20 | nvz | sep: well like last night I wanted to go for a walk before it got too late, and wanted to put songs on my mp3 player and my debian kernel ate my filesystem.. windows may be a virus collector, but the shit never has kernel random kernel bugs cause there is nobody maintaining it.. the bugs it has I know about. |
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| 07:24.38 | peterS | pygrammer: that's what I'd do, just run all three packages at 2.3.5-6. if the locale warnings don't go away, think about downgrading |
| 07:24.43 | pygrammer | ok |
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| 07:25.05 | nvz | sep: not to mention I often want to test my samba settings from a windows box and dont want to have to use someone else's pc |
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| 07:25.21 | sep | nvz: lol only time ever i'v had filesystem issees is when i in my stupidity used promise hardware once |
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| 07:25.35 | pygrammer | i wonder if any of these warnings would be resolved by rebooting -- the installation of libc6 said that restarting a lot of services is necessary after the upgrade |
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| 07:25.40 | pygrammer | like X11, etc. |
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| 07:25.57 | sep | nvz, well you dont have to explain yourself to me, your a free person (i assume) just go and do :) |
| 07:26.00 | peterS | pygrammer: locale stuff won't change after reboot, no |
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| 07:26.05 | sn00p | Does burncd come with debian? |
| 07:26.07 | nvz | sep: well I think I discovered a bug in the 2.6.8-2 kernel in sarge that is related to scsi devices, that was responsible for the chewing of the filesystem on my SD Card |
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| 07:26.15 | peterS | pygrammer: or I'd be pretty surprised if it did |
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| 07:26.48 | Shaoran | 8 apt-get update <31> |
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| 07:26.49 | Shaoran | Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages |
| 07:26.49 | Shaoran | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.53 | Shaoran | What does that mean? |
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| 07:26.55 | dutchfish | sn00p, not that i know |
| 07:26.57 | sep | nvz, have a bugnumber for it yet ? |
| 07:27.04 | nvz | sep: plus Ideally I want to run all these as a synergy workstation and having a firewall will help secure that as well |
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| 07:27.12 | peterS | Shaoran: fubar'd /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 07:27.25 | asuffield | locales aren't touched by rebooting, they just have to match versions. and sometimes be reconfigured. |
| 07:27.25 | sep | nvz, as i said, just do it :) |
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| 07:27.33 | nvz | sep: I havent filed it yet I am in the middle of backing up and re-arranging my junky old free hardware. I backed up the dmesg and stuff to file it later |
| 07:27.48 | pygrammer | asuffield: yeah, i just installed the new version of locales, so hopefully all will be well now |
| 07:28.00 | Shaoran | peterS: It's what apt-setup sets up for me |
| 07:28.08 | peterS | Shaoran: dunno then |
| 07:28.14 | dutchfish | sn00p, but burn is in the packagelist |
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| 07:28.21 | nvz | sep: plus after I get everything re-arranged I want to see if I can reproduce the error before I consider it bug worthy |
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| 07:28.36 | maxime_ | hi |
| 07:28.50 | nvz | sep: though I will probably file a bug even if I cant.. as the dmesg log clearly shows the kernel screaming I've got a bug |
| 07:29.03 | sn00p | burncd is part of cdrecord |
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| 07:29.14 | maxime_ | I'try to use qmail-scanner with debian sarge, but I've got this error: Sending eicar test virus - should be caught by perlscanner module... |
| 07:29.15 | maxime_ | qmail-inject: fatal: qq temporary problem (#4.3.0) |
| 07:29.15 | maxime_ | Bad error. qmail-inject died |
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| 07:30.06 | Mortalman | nvz: Screams bug? |
| 07:30.08 | Mortalman | lol |
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| 07:30.50 | nvz | Mortalman: yeah I dont remember how it was worded exactly.. but amongst the trace info it actually says something like that |
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| 07:31.21 | streuner | lilo mentioned yesterday something about, is upgrade process over? |
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| 07:31.34 | Mortalman | nvz: Literaly? wow |
| 07:31.54 | Zargonog | does anyone have exp with sunblade 100 machines? |
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| 07:32.13 | nvz | I need to take this box down to add the network cards and rearange all 3 pcs on my desk.. I am not sure if I should leave etch on here if this box is going to be controlling the internet connection for all my pcs.. I may reinstall sarge on here |
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| 07:32.24 | Mortalman | One time when I typed "exit" and hit Enter it said, "Go away, you don't exist." |
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| 07:32.27 | Mortalman | I swear. |
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| 07:34.22 | Fireball | good mornign everyone |
| 07:34.24 | Zargonog | can someone help me with a sun workstation? |
| 07:34.34 | Eclipser | Mortalman, it happens |
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| 07:34.49 | streuner | !VAGUENESS |
| 07:34.49 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY PENGUINS CRY! |
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| 07:35.05 | Fireball | ^^ |
| 07:35.16 | streuner | Zargonog: we can't help if you don't tell us more details |
| 07:35.17 | Mortalman | nice |
| 07:35.19 | Eclipser | when something loses info about who's logged in on that term or something |
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| 07:36.06 | Zargonog | well i got a sunblade 100 workstation and i cant get it to boot to the cd which has the netinst image |
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| 07:36.33 | streuner | Zargonog: what's the name of the iso? |
| 07:36.37 | Zargonog | the hard drive is clean and i can get to the ok prompt |
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| 07:36.59 | Zargonog | debian-31r0a-sparc-netinst.iso |
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| 07:37.15 | streuner | Zargonog: and CDROM is SCSI? |
| 07:37.22 | Zargonog | no its just ide |
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| 07:39.03 | liable | Zargonog: tried the floppies? |
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| 07:39.14 | Zargonog | where do i get the floppies? |
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| 07:39.24 | streuner | !sarge floppies |
| 07:39.25 | dpkg | [sarge floppies] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitue your arch for i386 |
| 07:39.43 | Zargonog | ok i just put sparc in for i386? |
| 07:39.46 | liable | cool, couldnt remember what that factoid was.. |
| 07:39.55 | liable | yeah. |
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| 07:40.11 | dondelelcaro | Zargonog: pretty much, yes; you're also going to want to read the installation manual |
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| 07:40.57 | Zargonog | it doesnt like it when i put sparc in rather than 1386 |
| 07:41.02 | Zargonog | i386* |
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| 07:41.40 | burstroc | hey, i have a quick question. i know only the very very basics of programming, and i want to contribute somehow, and i'm wondering if it'd be a better idea to learn c/c++ or make a few bucks and donate. what do you guys think? |
| 07:41.41 | streuner | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/ |
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| 07:42.17 | Zargonog | i got here.... |
| 07:42.17 | Zargonog | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-sparc/current/images/ |
| 07:42.22 | Zargonog | but theres no floppy folder... |
| 07:42.32 | peterS | Zargonog: right, floppy install might not be supported on sparc or sparc64 |
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| 07:43.26 | peterS | Zargonog: building a bootable floppy on sparc is a little problematic anyway, and the kernel might be too big to fit, besides |
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| 07:45.09 | sep | burstroc, obviously the best would be to learn programmins, get a dayjob as programmes and hack debian on the nighs and donate all you earn to the project :) |
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| 07:45.33 | nvz | heh |
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| 07:45.53 | peterS | burstroc: free software generally needs talent more than we need money. the talent doesn't have to be raw programming, though |
| 07:46.08 | ray | hey does anybody know how to create a link to a wine app on a kde desktop? |
| 07:46.08 | nvz | and 15% to seb and nvz for helping out around here so much |
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| 07:46.41 | nvz | you can tell I am into politics.. I will make shit up to get mine.. |
| 07:46.44 | sep | lol |
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| 07:47.31 | nvz | you know how you can really tell when a politician is lying? |
| 07:47.32 | burstroc | peterS, i was thinking if i could get enough money (perhaps by starting a business) i could hire some people who really know what they're doing to work on it full-time.. |
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| 07:47.44 | burstroc | but i don't know if that would completely wreck the entire philosophy of it all, or not |
| 07:47.58 | burstroc | by starting a business to make money for free software, you know |
| 07:48.00 | peterS | burstroc: if you think you're capable of this, and it's how you'd like to spend your energy, that'd be great. but making enough money to pay people to do what they would already be doing is Not Easy |
| 07:48.03 | nvz | its easy, their lips move. |
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| 07:49.01 | burstroc | well, i've noticed that for most people it's a bit of a hobby to work on linux, and it'd be nice to have them work an actual job contributing to the project, so things would get moving faster. |
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| 07:49.34 | peterS | burstroc: people would greatly appreciate this, sure. I'm just saying that finding a revenue stream that supports this is really hard |
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| 07:50.18 | peterS | burstroc: alternatively, it seems that for some reason, most women who want to contribute to debian are not good programmers. so the debian-women project has sort of specialised in figuring out how they can contribute to debian without being programmers |
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| 07:50.39 | nvz | oh well I will be back whenever.. got to finagle my hardware and install/reinstall OSs on 3 boxes I will swing by with whatever one gets done first |
| 07:50.40 | peterS | burstroc: so you might get more ideas browsing www.debian-women.org or even asking in #debian-women on this irc network |
| 07:50.57 | peterS | burstroc: just don't tell them I sent you because they kind of hate me (: |
| 07:51.01 | burstroc | haha |
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| 07:51.17 | burstroc | you're sure that'd be a good idea? |
| 07:51.22 | burstroc | i'm not a.. well, woman, after all. |
| 07:51.27 | johnny06 | mornin |
| 07:51.38 | peterS | burstroc: nor are the majority of people in that channel, last I checked (: but at least see if you can find something on their website |
| 07:51.44 | johnny06 | i would like to know how to install java runtime on debian |
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| 07:51.52 | burstroc | will do peterS, thanks for the tips. |
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| 07:54.49 | johnny06 | is j2re1.4 the right version for debian |
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| 07:55.03 | jm_ | john: the question is if it's the right version for your requirements |
| 07:55.10 | jm_ | johnny06 ^^^^^ |
| 07:55.21 | johnny06 | how would i know |
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| 07:55.40 | jm_ | well if you don't, then you don't need JRE |
| 07:55.47 | johnny06 | i installed azureus & told me that i am usin an old version of java |
| 07:56.21 | johnny06 | otherwise works fine on web pages |
| 07:56.23 | jm_ | what does the web page say? |
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| 07:57.36 | Mortalman | Wow, wtf is up with the way apache2's config files are layed out ? |
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| 07:57.57 | Mortalman | I have no idea how to make sure php4 is set up right. |
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| 07:58.37 | jm_ | azureus page lists JRE 1.5.x |
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| 07:58.59 | Mortalman | azureus is garbage. |
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| 08:00.10 | sep | Mortalman, you installed libapache2-mod-php4 ? |
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| 08:00.25 | johnny06 | ok,can you give me a repo for my sources list to add for java |
| 08:00.42 | Mortalman | sep: Noooooooooooo, but I will now. lmao |
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| 08:00.44 | jm_ | JRE is not in Debian, you download it from Sun and use java-package -- /msg dpkg java |
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| 08:01.17 | johnny06 | ok,i thougt i can get an unofficial one |
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| 08:01.38 | jm_ | maybe someone has packages available for download, but there's very little need for it |
| 08:01.58 | johnny06 | thanks for your help |
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| 08:02.23 | jm_ | np |
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| 08:11.03 | ma3x | how to show information about a deb package (local file) |
| 08:11.09 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: man dpkg-deb |
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| 08:11.14 | peterS | several minutes pass / no one's got a thing to say / until ma3x |
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| 08:11.34 | ma3x | dondelelcaro, I'm trying to build-dep, but don't know how for a local package |
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| 08:12.01 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: local packages don't have build deps. |
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| 08:12.20 | ma3x | peterS, let's break the ice |
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| 08:12.52 | ma3x | dondelelcaro, so how do you view the dependance of that local package? |
| 08:13.06 | ma3x | dondelelcaro, for eg. apt-cache show package, how would that be for the local one? |
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| 08:13.23 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: dpkg-deb -I foo.deb; for Depends: etc. |
| 08:13.32 | jm_ | man dpkg ;) |
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| 08:13.54 | ma3x | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 08:13.55 | syntaxx | is it possible to make aterm titlebar transparent? |
| 08:13.57 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: that's NOT the Build-Depends: though. Those are in the debian/control (and also in the .dsc) |
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| 08:14.59 | nkuttler | syntaxx: man aterm, if there's no option look into themes |
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| 08:15.35 | syntaxx | thanks nkuttler |
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| 08:18.31 | tralala | 200 people only! Is there a net split? |
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| 08:18.41 | tarzeau | how can i export x=y in csh? |
| 08:19.03 | tralala | tarzeau: let x=y? |
| 08:19.08 | elcuco | how can i know which package a file belongs to? |
| 08:19.13 | tralala | or was that ksh... |
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| 08:19.24 | streuner | elcuco: dpkg -S |
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| 08:19.47 | elcuco | 10x |
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| 08:19.59 | tarzeau | tralala: set z=1 works |
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| 08:20.15 | tarzeau | tralala: but is it exported to sub processes? |
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| 08:20.26 | streuner | tralala: seems the netsplit took place ;-) |
| 08:20.26 | tarzeau | tralala: no it's not |
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| 08:20.58 | tralala | tarzeau: it should be easy to test. Isn't there anything in the manual? |
| 08:21.18 | tarzeau | tralala: i couldn't find something in the manual. oh well this few csh users can fix it themselves... |
| 08:21.25 | tarzeau | tralala: i'll ask the other when he's back |
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| 08:23.33 | BriajWrk | hi all |
| 08:23.45 | tralala | tarzeau: seems to work with me -> set a=2; (echo $a) # prints 2 |
| 08:24.03 | dodochin | tralala, setenv |
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| 08:24.25 | dodochin | oops, tarzeau ^^ |
| 08:24.35 | tralala | dodochin: well, thanks :) |
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| 08:25.54 | jinx`` | hi. ./mvdsv: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by ./mvdsv) <-- dows anyone know how to fix this? newest libc6 is installed |
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| 08:25.57 | zkchong | hello |
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| 08:27.08 | zkchong | i got this error when i try to install gaim in debian. Anyone can tell me what can i do? The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 08:27.08 | zkchong | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.08 | zkchong | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:28.40 | nkuttler | zkchong: are you running stable? |
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| 08:29.35 | zkchong | <nkuttler>, I running debian 3.1 . It is the current stable version. |
| 08:29.38 | Gil_ | jinx``: relink the mvdsv application against the latest libc |
| 08:30.00 | jinx`` | how am i able to do this? |
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| 08:30.20 | zkchong | <nkuttler>, I type apt-get upgrade then apt-get install gaim . But then the problem is still the same. |
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| 08:30.33 | nkuttler | zkchong: apt-get update && apt-get install gaim |
| 08:30.45 | nkuttler | zkchong: show your sources.list in #flood |
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| 08:31.26 | clem_yeats | hi |
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| 08:32.14 | clem_yeats | I'd like to try Debian and I'm getting the ISO at the moment. I'd like to try the TESTING branch.. shall I download the iso from here http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/i386/ , and if so... do I need all of them ? |
| 08:32.31 | nkuttler | clem_yeats: install stable |
| 08:32.35 | clem_yeats | why ? |
| 08:32.50 | nkuttler | clem_yeats: why do you want testing? |
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| 08:33.09 | clem_yeats | I want to give it a try... it doesn't matter if it's not totally stable. |
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| 08:34.02 | nkuttler | clem_yeats: get the stable installer and install only the base system, dist-upgrade to testing |
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| 08:34.41 | zkchong | nkuttler, how to show my souces.list? I am quite new in debian. so, not quite sure how to do. Do u mind explain? |
| 08:34.48 | clem_yeats | so I go here instead ? |
| 08:34.49 | clem_yeats | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ |
| 08:34.56 | nkuttler | zkchong: /join #flood |
| 08:35.11 | clem_yeats | in the current folder ? |
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| 08:35.12 | nkuttler | clem_yeats: get the net install cd |
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| 08:35.21 | dodochin | clem_yeats, download a net install |
| 08:35.26 | clem_yeats | will it install through http ? |
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| 08:35.34 | nkuttler | clem_yeats: yes |
| 08:35.38 | clem_yeats | ok |
| 08:35.51 | nkuttler | !tell clem_yeats about install sarge |
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| 08:37.10 | pngwn | clem_yeats, there's an installation manual on debian.org/doc |
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| 08:37.51 | eNcoR3 | how do i install tcl8.4 on my debian ?? |
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| 08:38.04 | clem_yeats | ok I'm now downloading the net installer iso. |
| 08:38.10 | clem_yeats | 100Mo |
| 08:38.13 | tralala | eNcoR3: aptitude search tcl |
| 08:38.21 | streuner | eNcoR3: why do you think you need 8.4? |
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| 08:39.01 | clem_yeats | !tell clem_yeats about install sarge |
| 08:39.14 | streuner | eNcoR3: apt-cache search tcl 8.4 |
| 08:39.27 | eNcoR3 | tralala: i installed it using apt-get install tcl8.4, but it seems ther is problem with it |
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| 08:39.35 | nkuttler | clem_yeats: you can /msg the bot |
| 08:39.41 | clem_yeats | sarge is the last stable version is it ? |
| 08:39.41 | tralala | eNcoR3: what kind of problem? |
| 08:39.49 | clem_yeats | I'm in query with it |
| 08:39.52 | streuner | clem_yeats: yes |
| 08:39.52 | tarzeau | clem_yeats: no, the latest |
| 08:40.02 | tarzeau | streuner: last would be there will be no more releases |
| 08:40.04 | eNcoR3 | tralala: and i my vps provider has fixed that nameserver stuff :) |
| 08:40.05 | clem_yeats | yes, that's what I meant sorry. |
| 08:40.12 | streuner | tarzeau: yeah :-) |
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| 08:40.42 | tralala | eNcoR3: glad to hear that |
| 08:40.42 | cipherz | okay I just upgraded my sid and ipw2100 depends on ieee80211-source so I start up module-assistant but it complains my sources.list is missing something maybe contrib or non-free (which has always been in my list) |
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| 08:40.56 | deadline | hi |
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| 08:41.09 | deadline | offtopic question: how can i add ChanServ to my #channel? |
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| 08:41.39 | cipherz | deadline: /msg chatserv help ? |
| 08:41.41 | tralala | deadline: /msg chanserv help, perhaps? |
| 08:41.43 | dondelelcaro | deadline: /msg chanserv help set guard |
| 08:41.48 | eNcoR3 | tralala: when i try to compile an eggdrop on my debian, it give error, saying that "Eggdrop requires Tcl to compile." |
| 08:41.51 | deadline | dondelelcaro: thx |
| 08:42.03 | dondelelcaro | deadline: and #freenode is really the proper place to ask that sort of question |
| 08:42.03 | nkuttler | eNcoR3: why do you compile eggdrop? |
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| 08:42.16 | deadline | dondelelcaro: i know, but -v...:) |
| 08:42.19 | tralala | eNcoR3: most likely you need some -dev packages |
| 08:42.19 | eNcoR3 | becoz i want to run eggdrop bots |
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| 08:42.37 | dondelelcaro | eNcoR3: so apt-get install eggdrop |
| 08:42.37 | eNcoR3 | tralala: could u tel me how to fix it |
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| 08:42.47 | tralala | eNcoR3: are you sure that this is not against the policy of your provider? |
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| 08:43.05 | nkuttler | tralala: running an irc bot? |
| 08:43.12 | eNcoR3 | dondelelcaro: i dont wanna compile eggdrop as root |
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| 08:43.22 | nkuttler | eNcoR3: apt-get install it... |
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| 08:43.27 | dondelelcaro | eNcoR3: I said install, not compile. |
| 08:43.29 | Guerin | eNcoR3: you won't be compiling it as anything |
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| 08:43.38 | tralala | nkuttler: yes |
| 08:43.44 | eNcoR3 | yes tralala: they allow irc on my debian vps |
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| 08:43.58 | tralala | eNcoR3: irc != irc bots |
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| 08:44.08 | tralala | but anyway |
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| 08:44.11 | Guerin | tralala: oh, really. |
| 08:44.32 | eNcoR3 | yes any of legal irc servers, bots or services are allowed |
| 08:44.56 | tralala | Guerin: at least most of the policies I have seen clearly distinct them |
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| 08:45.23 | Guerin | tralala: any host which doesn't allow you to run an IRC client, which is what a bot is, is not worth paying |
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| 08:45.28 | Fireball41 | hm .. i'm trying to set up scp without pass for a rssh'ed user .. but no luck :-( |
| 08:45.34 | Guerin | tralala: irc SERVERS are another matter |
| 08:45.35 | Fireball41 | anyone knwo a goot howto ? |
| 08:45.40 | Lanix | how to fix broken pkgs ? btw hi |
| 08:45.41 | Huey | what's the name of the program used to simulate a mouse in X with the keyboard? |
| 08:45.52 | nkuttler | !tell Lanix about errors |
| 08:45.54 | Guerin | Fireball41: google ssh unattended |
| 08:45.54 | cuco | where can i ask questions about packaging? |
| 08:45.57 | Huey | (the built-in mouse of my old laptop doesn't have functional buttons any more, but the mouse still moves) |
| 08:45.59 | tralala | Guerin: nobody speaks about servers |
| 08:46.00 | deadline | Huey: xf86cfg |
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| 08:46.10 | Guerin | cuco: here, once you've read the NM guide |
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| 08:46.16 | tralala | eNcoR3: if you insist on compiling apt-get install tcl8.4-dev |
| 08:46.17 | cuco | i have to build this source, into deveral packages |
| 08:46.18 | Lanix | thx nkuttler i was wondering how to ask dpkg |
| 08:46.21 | Guerin | tralala: yes, many DO speak about servers. |
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| 08:46.28 | Huey | deadline: is there a way to get that without having to go through the whole x configuration thing? |
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| 08:46.44 | Guerin | tralala: specifically, because many colocation providers disallow IRC servers for ALL machines hosted there. |
| 08:46.47 | tralala | Guerin: nobody in the channel I mean, not the providers |
| 08:46.47 | eNcoR3 | okay tralala, i'll try it |
| 08:46.47 | deadline | Huey: xf86cfg SETS your configuration |
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| 08:47.17 | tralala | eNcoR3: but you really should apt-get install eggdrop instead |
| 08:47.29 | Lanix | well actually xfce was working fine and the next thing i know thers no tool bar no way to get a console so i figure is broken |
| 08:47.32 | EagleCros | Huey: if you are running on KDE, there is a key-shortcut which activates it... however, I cannot remember the combination |
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| 08:47.45 | EagleCros | (and my KDE is broken, so I cannot check atm) |
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| 08:47.58 | cuco | Guerin: the new maintainer guide says anothing about how to split a package. it's extreamly basic. |
| 08:48.07 | eNcoR3 | tralala: if i do "apt-get install eggdrop", how will it be? i mean i wanna run them on users, not as root, so?? |
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| 08:48.19 | nkuttler | Lanix: did you upgrade the package? |
| 08:48.23 | tralala | EagleCros: a shortcut which activates what? |
| 08:48.33 | tralala | EagleCros: ah, sorry |
| 08:48.39 | Lanix | it's upgrading 132 pkgs know |
| 08:48.42 | EagleCros | tralala: np :) |
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| 08:48.50 | Lanix | in thelist is xfe |
| 08:48.51 | nkuttler | Lanix: what are you _doing_? |
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| 08:49.35 | Lanix | nkuttler: i had no connection for 4 days and i did an apt-get dist-upgrade and its upgrading and am on unstable |
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| 08:49.55 | nkuttler | Lanix: 132 packages to upgrade doesn't sound like stable |
| 08:49.57 | tralala | eNcoR3: so, you will install it and the users will run it. Don't tell me you intend to compile an eggdrop instance for every user! |
| 08:50.04 | Lanix | unstable |
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| 08:50.19 | nkuttler | Lanix: well if you run stable you surely can fix xfce, can't you? |
| 08:50.26 | Mortalman | eNcoR3: Just because root installs it doesn't mean root has to run it. |
| 08:50.27 | Lanix | yes |
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| 08:50.27 | Guerin | cuco: I can't help you, but others here might be able to. there's also a #debian-mentors |
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| 08:50.38 | Lanix | but i dont wana go to stable |
| 08:50.46 | nkuttler | Lanix: hint: mv ~/.xfce ~/.xfce_bak |
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| 08:51.02 | eNcoR3 | tralala: how do i run it as users? what commamds do i have to give to run them as users on usrs login?? |
| 08:51.05 | Niriven | http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/r/r/rrl125/3dModeling/ambOcculsion.jpg Ambient occlusion is fun :-0 |
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| 08:51.38 | cuco | Guerin: thanks anyway |
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| 08:51.41 | Lanix | is says it does not exist |
| 08:51.54 | jimmyw | heyas all, anyone tell me how i can add unstable repository to synaptic for ireland? |
| 08:52.03 | nkuttler | Lanix: i can't help you |
| 08:52.10 | tralala | eNcoR3: what exactly do you want to do? |
| 08:52.23 | Lanix | thx for tring any way |
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| 08:53.06 | EagleCros | jimmyw: man sources.list, and then consider changing the words "stable" on your repositories with "unstable" |
| 08:53.21 | jimmyw | EagleCros: is that all? |
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| 08:53.38 | EagleCros | well, apt-get update |
| 08:53.42 | eNcoR3 | tralala: i wnat my users to be able to run eggdrops on ther home dir. |
| 08:54.00 | nkuttler | eNcoR3: so? how is that a problem? |
| 08:54.05 | jimmyw | EagleCros: where is sources.list ? |
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| 08:54.12 | nkuttler | jimmyw: man sources.list |
| 08:54.19 | nkuttler | jimmyw: _don't_ run unstable |
| 08:54.21 | EagleCros | nkuttler: thanks :) |
| 08:54.22 | tralala | eNcoR3: I guess they only need to run eggdrop and that's all. |
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| 08:54.42 | eNcoR3 | tralala: the tcl is working now |
| 08:54.44 | eNcoR3 | :)) |
| 08:54.45 | eNcoR3 | thnx |
| 08:54.47 | ma3x | can anybody help me with the mozilla-mplayer plugin please? |
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| 08:54.58 | nkuttler | ma3x: you know about /msg dpkg ask? |
| 08:54.59 | ma3x | i tried to read all the help on their site but it's still stucked |
| 08:55.10 | ma3x | it's buffering and it never starts |
| 08:55.11 | pak | hi i have a biggggg problem , once i log in my kde or gnome ... it freeze directly or when i click an icon on the desktop |
| 08:55.13 | pak | ??? |
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| 08:55.38 | ma3x | here are the config options i have : vo=xv ao=arts cachesize=512 cache-percent=25 dload-dir=/home/ma3x |
| 08:55.48 | ma3x | is something wrong with those? |
| 08:55.48 | umbop | hey guys, just wondering how i would go about enabling mppe in the kernel, i've downlaoded the kernel-patch for mppe, via apt, but on an lsmod | grep mppe i can't see it |
| 08:56.11 | nkuttler | pak: sounds like a buggy video driver |
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| 08:56.29 | EagleCros | umbop: without knowing what mppe is, I bet a good answer is that you need to reconfigure/recompile your kernel |
| 08:56.57 | pak | i ll try onter so |
| 08:57.01 | pak | i use the radeon driver |
| 08:57.07 | pak | i ll try with ati.... |
| 08:57.12 | nkuttler | pak: try the vesa |
| 08:57.18 | pak | ok |
| 08:57.20 | EagleCros | pak: with framebuffer activated? |
| 08:57.28 | pak | now no |
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| 08:57.31 | EagleCros | ok |
| 08:57.36 | pak | radeon with dri.... |
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| 08:57.46 | ma3x | nkuttler, can you help me out please? |
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| 08:58.05 | nkuttler | ma3x: no |
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| 08:59.20 | tralala | pak: does the whole system freeze or just the X? |
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| 09:00.46 | zkchong | nkuttler, i manage to make gaim installed already. Thanks man. |
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| 09:00.56 | nkuttler | zkchong: you're welcome |
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| 09:01.01 | drac | pak: hdr.unk.fi/~drac/radeon.txt, look at disabling DGA and disabling FastWrite, those are quite common reasons for hardlockups. |
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| 09:01.56 | pak | when you install xorg do you remove xserver-xfree86?? |
| 09:02.17 | tralala | if it needs to be removed apt will do it |
| 09:02.42 | EagleCros | I'm a bit suspicious about apt atm |
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| 09:02.55 | Guerin | pak: you don't, it does it automatically |
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| 09:03.26 | EagleCros | what does mplayer have to do with google? |
| 09:03.29 | EagleCros | :-? |
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| 09:03.52 | jeffrin | hello all |
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| 09:04.23 | jeffrin | have anyone used shorewall ? |
| 09:04.32 | Guerin | !anyone use shorewall |
| 09:04.33 | dpkg | No, no one uses shorewall, not even the people who use it. |
| 09:04.37 | umbop | hmm, well i'm confused about this mppe, mppe is a module for pptp, i'm not 100% sure exactly what it's meant to do |
| 09:04.39 | eNcoR3 | tralala: one more thing, i need to know how to change this 72, "x@72:~$" |
| 09:04.42 | Guerin | EagleCros: context? |
| 09:04.59 | EagleCros | Guerin: context? what do you mean? |
| 09:05.08 | nkuttler | umbop: if you don't know what it does... why do you think you need it? |
| 09:05.13 | tralala | eNcoR3: this is your hostname |
| 09:05.17 | eNcoR3 | when i login to my server its shows "root@72:~$" somethign like that |
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| 09:05.20 | Guerin | EagleCros: i mean, what gives you the idea that they ARE connected? |
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| 09:05.27 | eNcoR3 | tralala: how do i change it?? |
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| 09:05.37 | nkuttler | eNcoR3: google bash prompt |
| 09:05.38 | Guerin | eNcoR3: change the hsotname of your computer |
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| 09:05.43 | Guerin | oh that |
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| 09:05.54 | tralala | eNcoR3: in /etc/hosts |
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| 09:06.00 | EagleCros | well, I just installed the mplayer plugin for mozilla via apt-get, and I get: application/x-google-vlc-plugin Google Video |
| 09:06.01 | eNcoR3 | okay |
| 09:06.05 | tralala | my hostname (laptop) is like that: 127.0.0.1 laptop localhost |
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| 09:06.07 | EagleCros | in the plugins page of mozilla |
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| 09:06.32 | EagleCros | and well, the name for the plugin is listed as: Google VLC multimedia plugin 1.0 |
| 09:06.48 | tralala | EagleCros: does it work? |
| 09:06.53 | jeffrin | dpkg : sorry for that foolish question |
| 09:07.01 | tralala | dpkg: bot |
| 09:07.01 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 09:07.10 | EagleCros | tralala: err, I didn't try |
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| 09:07.35 | tralala | EagleCros: well, try it - if it works you don't have to bother about anything else, I believe |
| 09:07.48 | EagleCros | however, I just realized it is also listed under Windows Media Player Plugin and mplayerplug-in 3.05 |
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| 09:08.06 | jeffrin | where is shorewall using iptables |
| 09:08.19 | Guerin | jeffrin: shorewall IS iptables |
| 09:08.20 | tralala | jeffrin: what do you mean? |
| 09:08.20 | ircdevil | jeffrin: where? doesnt make sense? |
| 09:08.21 | eNcoR3 | tralala: cat: /etc/hosts: No such file or directory |
| 09:08.22 | devmodem | nkuttler there are many non english users also |
| 09:08.30 | EagleCros | tralala: well, I am just getting a bit "curious" about the fact that google is going into so many different things right now |
| 09:08.40 | nkuttler | devmodem: i guess that's what manpages-XX are for |
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| 09:08.57 | EagleCros | nkuttler: apt includes non-english man pages for me, e.g. |
| 09:09.03 | tralala | eNcoR3: I don't know the setup of the vps. Maybe the hostname modifications are not allowed. Check with the provider. |
| 09:09.04 | nkuttler | devmodem: btw, non-english man pages are often incorrect and out of date |
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| 09:09.17 | EagleCros | lol, good to know |
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| 09:09.26 | jeffrin | i do not see an line like .. iptables -p ... -s.. -J drop etc |
| 09:09.42 | devmodem | nkuttler: man pages and usr/share/doc are for different purposes |
| 09:09.47 | devmodem | i think |
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| 09:10.02 | eNcoR3 | tralala: i think i can modify it, coz earlier there wasnt anything, after i messed with one of the file it changes to 72 |
| 09:10.03 | tralala | jeffrin: this is the whole idea behind shorewall. Users shouldn't be bothered with iptables. |
| 09:10.03 | BriajWrk | hi all |
| 09:10.11 | ircdevil | EagleCros: google have proved that their way of putting up adds without screaming into peoples faces is a way of earning money - hence they are expanding using that policy |
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| 09:10.45 | tralala | eNcoR3: create /etc/hosts then and add a line there |
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| 09:10.57 | nkuttler | EagleCros: nice, but it's not consistent, it only includes fr, es, de and ja |
| 09:10.58 | jeffrin | i want to use iptables directly |
| 09:11.02 | tralala | echo "127.0.0.1 yourhost localhost" > /etc/hosts |
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| 09:11.06 | jeffrin | which is my tutorial |
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| 09:11.14 | eNcoR3 | ok |
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| 09:11.22 | tralala | jeffrin: use it then |
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| 09:11.30 | EagleCros | ircdevil: yes, well, I am ready to accept that, but I don't like such companies to get all too powerful |
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| 09:11.54 | EagleCros | nkuttler: that's why I said "for me", spanish speaker ;) |
| 09:12.08 | tralala | EagleCros: if you don't like a certain company for a certain reason the best you could do is not buy their products |
| 09:12.14 | jeffrin | tralala : any tutorials to learn firewalls |
| 09:12.14 | Fireball41 | *grr* still refuses to work .. ^^ |
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| 09:12.21 | EagleCros | although i do admit that it should include lots of other languages... |
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| 09:12.46 | EagleCros | tralala: well, atm I rather use google than msn search, e.g. |
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| 09:13.39 | tralala | !tell jeffrin -about lartc |
| 09:13.43 | Fireball41 | am trying to set up ssh keys so scp won't ask for a password .. *sigh* |
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| 09:13.57 | EagleCros | and I must also say that I like the policy google has been applying to their products (as few as I know about it). However, I'm afraid it might change in the future. |
| 09:14.02 | tralala | this is something although I'm not sure it's the best place to start |
| 09:14.08 | dimir | G'day! |
| 09:14.21 | tralala | Fireball41: that's pretty easy |
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| 09:14.43 | Fireball41 | tralala: must be doing something wrong then ... |
| 09:14.51 | tralala | and a potential security hole |
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| 09:15.08 | Fireball41 | i want to use rssh so it only works for scp |
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| 09:15.36 | tengulre | hi,all |
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| 09:15.59 | tengulre | I want to building a IRC server! which software is best? |
| 09:16.11 | tengulre | under debian |
| 09:16.31 | jm_ | Debian has them packaged |
| 09:16.44 | tralala | I don't know what rssh is so I will leave the security worries to you. Just put your public key in $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server and you're done |
| 09:16.48 | miz | Is there anywhere I could look to see if my system has HPET timer, apart from motherboard manual? |
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| 09:17.19 | Fireball41 | tralala: limits connections to scp only if set up correctly .. no shell possible |
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| 09:17.59 | tralala | being able to copy files without entering a password could be a pretty high security risk |
| 09:18.06 | maximander | how adverse would people here be to helping a user of a different distro with non-distro specifc issues (kernel) ? |
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| 09:18.52 | Fireball41 | i'm using a user that only can write in just one directory .. |
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| 09:18.56 | Fireball41 | anyway its not working ^^ |
| 09:18.57 | Buuyo^ | Hi. Does SATA require any extra attention when installing a kernel-image for 2.6 from 2.4 in stable? |
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| 09:19.18 | tralala | on the other hand I would recommend using keys anyway, because it makes it more difficult for some attacks to be executed. The keys should be password protected however. |
| 09:19.24 | Buuyo^ | This laptop won't boot when it loads the new kernel (2.6.8-2-686) and initrd |
| 09:19.33 | Fireball41 | Buuyo^: nope, worked fine for me .. onyl if you got an unusual controller i think |
| 09:19.46 | Buuyo^ | pivot_root complains in the initrd :| |
| 09:19.50 | Buuyo^ | says no such file or directory |
| 09:19.54 | tralala | Fireball41: make sure that the server allows the use of keys. Check the server logs. |
| 09:19.58 | Buuyo^ | it's kind of weird, considering the contents of the initrd |
| 09:19.59 | Fireball41 | hm ..okay |
| 09:20.02 | Buuyo^ | pivot_root . mnt |
| 09:20.03 | Fireball41 | will do |
| 09:20.14 | Buuyo^ | mnt exists, and . surely exists |
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| 09:20.22 | tralala | Fireball41: also make sure that rssh is able to use keys |
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| 09:21.09 | tralala | Buuyo^: is this a debian kernel? |
| 09:21.33 | clem_yeats | is Richard Stallman using Debian ? (it's not a troll).. |
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| 09:21.48 | Guerin | tralala: if you could read, you'd know the answer to that question is a yes. |
| 09:21.52 | Buuyo^ | tralala: yes |
| 09:21.58 | Buuyo^ | tralala: from the official apt source |
| 09:22.04 | jimmyw | heyas , im a new user of debian and im having trouble adding unstable repos to synaptic, im tryin to install postgresql 8, could anyone please help? ive already read man sources.list |
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| 09:22.33 | tralala | Guerin: cleverness appreciated |
| 09:22.50 | Guerin | clem_yeats: RMS stated that he did use debian at some point in the past - nowadays, who knows. |
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| 09:22.57 | Guerin | tralala: stupidity not appreciated |
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| 09:23.01 | clem_yeats | Guerin : thanks |
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| 09:23.06 | Guerin | jimmyw: don't use unstable |
| 09:23.21 | tralala | clem_yeats: I think you could find this out at his homepage |
| 09:23.24 | jimmyw | Guerin: i need to to get postgresql 8 |
| 09:23.29 | jimmyw | 7.4 is stable |
| 09:23.31 | wols | Guerin: is HURD good enough to run emacs already? with the GBs of mailspool file RMS needs? |
| 09:23.38 | Guerin | jimmyw: unstable is not for new users, it's for developers, testers and diie-hard crazy fool-arse maniacs like me |
| 09:23.41 | Fireball41 | tralala: nothign suspicious in the logfile .. only rssh loggin the connection attempt |
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| 09:23.44 | clem_yeats | tralala: it his homepage on the GNU website ? do you have a link ? |
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| 09:23.57 | Guerin | jimmyw: nobody NEEDS postgresql 8 |
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| 09:24.03 | docelic | How can I conveniently perform the removal of everything installed by say, apt-get install gnome ? |
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| 09:24.17 | jm_ | docelic: use aptitude |
| 09:24.17 | tralala | clem_yeats: stallman.org |
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| 09:24.21 | Guerin | jimmyw: in any case, you can probably backport it - ask dpkg about backports and simple sid backport |
| 09:24.22 | jimmyw | Guerin: well could you please tell me anyway? |
| 09:24.23 | clem_yeats | thanks |
| 09:24.27 | resiak | deborphan, aptitude, /msg dpkg remove gnome |
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| 09:24.40 | tralala | Fireball41: and what does it say about this connection attempt |
| 09:24.59 | Guerin | jimmyw: no, the test for using unstable is "i managed to figure out how to load and fire this gun all by my self" |
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| 09:25.04 | Fireball41 | tralala: "Aug 31 10:39:09 localhost rssh[16900]: user scpbackup attempted to log in with a shell" ^^ |
| 09:25.05 | syntaxx | how can i kill process that kill (PID) wont kill it? |
| 09:25.06 | wols | Guerin: wrong, the postgres devs need postgresql 8 obviously |
| 09:25.21 | wols | syntaxx: tried kill -9? |
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| 09:25.30 | syntaxx | ok wols thanks |
| 09:25.33 | docelic | thanks jm_ ,resiak , I was asking for general solution. Yeah, deborphan comes to mind as best for my purpose |
| 09:25.39 | Guerin | wols: they don't need to ask #debian how to get it, though |
| 09:25.50 | tralala | Fireball41: It seems that you're attempting a shell login. |
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| 09:25.59 | EagleCros | how can I kill processes that kill -9 PID won't kill? }:-) |
| 09:25.59 | Guerin | wols: anyway, if he DID run hurd, he'd still need a distro of it - the man doesn't have time to build HFS |
| 09:26.08 | Fireball41 | thought so .. but a shell login via scp ? |
| 09:26.08 | Guerin | or should that be G/HFS |
| 09:26.14 | Guerin | EagleCros: you can't. |
| 09:26.14 | clem_yeats | I got the netinstall iso... it's installing the base packages. Are these within the 100M iso, or does it use the internet connexion already ? |
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| 09:26.36 | jm_ | clem_yeats: should be on CD, except for security updates |
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| 09:26.54 | clem_yeats | thanks jm_, is there any WM within the 100M ? |
| 09:27.06 | wols | Guerin: in case of Hurd it would be simply "GnuOS", since there is no pesky kernel from other places in there like the in the mongrel that is Gnu/Linux |
| 09:27.09 | jm_ | clem_yeats: of course not |
| 09:27.13 | Orfeous | is it possible to install mysql-package with mysqli-extension? |
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| 09:27.19 | Guerin | wols: true. |
| 09:27.21 | clem_yeats | jm_ : ok |
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| 09:27.22 | tralala | Fireball41: I think some manuals + some experimenting will get your problem located (and eventually fixed) |
| 09:27.40 | EagleCros | weird, though, in my OS class I was told no process can disobey SIGKILL |
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| 09:27.58 | resiak | EagleCros: They're probably now zombies. |
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| 09:28.11 | resiak | EagleCros: (the processes that do not obey it) |
| 09:28.14 | Guerin | EagleCros: that's true... it didn't disobey it, it's just unable to comply |
| 09:28.21 | wols | EagleCros: they are wrong. certain status flags and the process is pretty much unkillable. only reboot will fix it. waiting for IO or things like that IIRC |
| 09:28.28 | clem_yeats | the netinstall didn't ask me for a root password... is it normal ? |
| 09:28.39 | docelic | clem_yeats, yes |
| 09:28.42 | clem_yeats | ok |
| 09:28.47 | clem_yeats | sudo instead ? |
| 09:28.53 | Guerin | it's going "Ok, i'll die ... just as soon as I finish this thing which is never going to be finished, but which I can't stop doing" |
| 09:28.56 | docelic | clem_yeats, no, you'll set it the first time you reboot |
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| 09:29.00 | EagleCros | mmmm I would say it is a bad implementation of signal capture, then |
| 09:29.02 | clem_yeats | oh ok. |
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| 09:29.23 | Guerin | EagleCros: riiight |
| 09:29.25 | wols | EagleCros: no, it's real world vs. academic "should be" world |
| 09:29.28 | Guerin | and YOU'D know |
| 09:29.28 | jm_ | EagleCros: stop with such silly assumptions |
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| 09:29.31 | EagleCros | wols: lol |
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| 09:29.41 | EagleCros | jm_: why should they be silly? |
| 09:29.51 | Guerin | they shouldn't be.... but they are |
| 09:29.56 | jm_ | EagleCros: because you don't know what you're talking about |
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| 09:30.02 | EagleCros | jm_: says who? |
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| 09:30.24 | docelic | EagleCros, your own words |
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| 09:30.33 | pingouin | back with new ispn |
| 09:30.34 | EagleCros | oh, ok, then, no more comments |
| 09:30.36 | pingouin | !lart wanadoo |
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| 09:30.53 | tralala | EagleCros: if you provide a patch that will fix this problem we shall all benefit |
| 09:30.54 | nvz | !+info lspci sarge |
| 09:30.57 | dpkg | Package 'lspci' does not exist. |
| 09:31.03 | nvz | wtf is up with that? |
| 09:31.05 | Orfeous | hmm.. i mean php-package of course ;) |
| 09:31.06 | Guerin | nvz: find |
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| 09:31.10 | Guerin | it's not a package |
| 09:31.13 | Guerin | duh |
| 09:31.14 | nvz | it used to be |
| 09:31.31 | EagleCros | I think this is quite weird. If someone comes in and says "I need to kill a process", it's ok. If I try to argue about the idea, then it is a problem |
| 09:31.35 | EagleCros | interresting |
| 09:31.52 | Guerin | EagleCros: it's not THAT you did it, but HOW. |
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| 09:32.11 | ma3x | hello |
| 09:32.13 | nvz | I know it was a package because I normally type apt-get install screen irssi-text less lspci mped when I install, and now I installed and got an error that the package lspci doesnt exist |
| 09:32.13 | EagleCros | so what was wrong about my how? I really don't see it |
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| 09:32.23 | ma3x | i've installad to /usr/local/stow/mplayer |
| 09:32.27 | Guerin | EagleCros: you'll find that most people who presume to know more than the kernel-hacking team based on "in my OS class at school" get the same reaction |
| 09:32.28 | ma3x | now why mplayer won't launch? |
| 09:32.30 | nvz | oh and links2.. heh |
| 09:32.39 | tarzeau | nvz: links2 works perfect here |
| 09:32.40 | tralala | EagleCros: if everything was as simple as that all of us would be kernel developers, wouldn't we? |
| 09:32.43 | ma3x | must i always go to /usr/local/stow/mplayer/bin and launch from there? |
| 09:32.46 | umbop | hey guys, how do i apply a kernel patch? path -p0 patch ? |
| 09:32.49 | EagleCros | wait, I didn't say I know more than them |
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| 09:32.51 | ma3x | why are the symbolic links not created? |
| 09:32.53 | nvz | tarzeau: yeah works for me too.. I was just saying its another of my essentials |
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| 09:32.57 | Guerin | umbop: man patch |
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| 09:33.03 | tarzeau | nvz: you use it with -g ? |
| 09:33.07 | EagleCros | tralala: most probably, that's why I ask? |
| 09:33.09 | umbop | Guerin, i've read that |
| 09:33.09 | Guerin | umbop: using make-kpkg, read the manpage. |
| 09:33.11 | docelic | umbop, usually, patch -p1 < patchfile |
| 09:33.19 | Guerin | umbop: then you know how to apply the patch |
| 09:33.20 | tarzeau | nvz: would you like a license exception for https and linking against openssl? |
| 09:33.21 | yang | Where do i set a proper keyboard type (local letters) |
| 09:33.25 | nvz | tarzeau: no I usually just use it without |
| 09:33.32 | EagleCros | I did not seek to tell you all how smart I am, I just wanted an answer |
| 09:33.40 | tarzeau | yang: x or console? |
| 09:33.42 | nvz | tarzeau: whut? |
| 09:33.42 | clem_yeats | woaoo.. !! the install is pretty cool !! It even proposes me my local mirror for packages and my proxy settings ! :) |
| 09:33.43 | EagleCros | is that really so irritating? |
| 09:33.43 | tralala | EagleCros: you didn't actully ask. You claimed it to be misimplementations. |
| 09:33.47 | yang | tarzeau: for x |
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| 09:33.49 | tarzeau | nvz: it can't do https:// |
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| 09:33.54 | tarzeau | yang: setxkbmap |
| 09:33.55 | ma3x | hello |
| 09:33.56 | nvz | tarzeau: who cares :P |
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| 09:34.01 | ma3x | can can i create the links with stow? |
| 09:34.06 | tarzeau | nvz: some people run https without http |
| 09:34.14 | ma3x | ma3x@ma3x:~/MPlayer-20050806$ stow mplayer |
| 09:34.14 | ma3x | stow: Cannot read directory "mplayer" (Not a directory) |
| 09:34.32 | EagleCros | <EagleCros> mmmm I would say it is a bad implementation of signal capture, then <-- this is not a full statement |
| 09:34.34 | nvz | tarzeau: yeah well "some people are really fucking stupid" -- George Carlin |
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| 09:34.57 | jeffrin | is it possible to master iptables using a standalone system |
| 09:34.57 | EagleCros | anyway, whatever |
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| 09:35.18 | tarzeau | jeffrin: without internet? |
| 09:35.18 | nvz | !info lspci woody |
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| 09:35.31 | clem_yeats | I'm very impressed with the quality of the netinst installation I have to say. |
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| 09:35.38 | nvz | maybe I am smoking the crack |
| 09:35.41 | jeffrin | with internet |
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| 09:35.48 | Guerin | !whatever |
| 09:35.48 | dpkg | whatever is, like, the last word of the loser of an argument |
| 09:35.51 | nvz | I swear lspci was a fucking package |
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| 09:36.07 | Guerin | nvz: swear as much as you like, this isn't ##linux |
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| 09:36.42 | nvz | Guerin: I am afraid I don't understand that one. Are you not allowed to swear in ##linux or something? |
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| 09:36.46 | nvz | I've never been there |
| 09:36.47 | Guerin | nvz: 1 |
| 09:36.49 | jeffrin | tarzeau : with internet is it possible |
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| 09:37.07 | Guerin | ma3x: why are you building mplayer anyway? |
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| 09:37.11 | ma3x | ma3x:/usr/local/stow# stow mplayer |
| 09:37.11 | ma3x | stow: CONFLICT: /usr/local/stow/mplayer/man vs. /usr/local/man |
| 09:37.16 | ma3x | Guerin, I want a build version |
| 09:37.22 | Guerin | ma3x: WHY |
| 09:37.38 | ma3x | those guys from #mplayer recommend it |
| 09:37.39 | Guerin | because it's 1337 |
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| 09:38.17 | Guerin | ma3x: what specific thing are you seeking to remedy by building your own? |
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| 09:38.26 | tarzeau | jeffrin: yes of course |
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| 09:38.39 | tarzeau | jeffrin: do you need more than NAT and redirects? |
| 09:38.40 | ma3x | Guerin, I couldn't play streams anymore |
| 09:38.45 | tarzeau | jeffrin: if not i can show you my config |
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| 09:38.52 | docelic | clem_yeats, sure.. as everything in Debian. |
| 09:38.54 | ma3x | so I went to mplayer and they told me they support only official version |
| 09:38.54 | tralala | ma3x: the mplayer soruces contain can build to .deb package. Just use debian/rules binary |
| 09:38.55 | docelic | ;) |
| 09:39.02 | Guerin | ma3x: uninstall and reinstall marillat's package, or use the packages from cerkinfo.be |
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| 09:39.08 | yang | tarzeau: I have specified a keyboard in xserver-xfree86 |
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| 09:39.45 | tarzeau | yang: correct or wrong? |
| 09:39.45 | jeffrin | tarzeau : can you mail me your config |
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| 09:40.01 | nvz | thats got me baffled I feel like I've fallen into the twilight zone. I've been using debian for like 5 years and never ever ever ever ever ever remember installing pciutils. I recall lspci being in a package called lspci |
| 09:40.02 | tarzeau | jeffrin: sure, is it find tonight, tell me your email, send to gurkan@linuks.mine.nu Subject: iptables |
| 09:40.05 | Huey | is there a way to re-program what keys xorgcfg uses for the mouse emulation mode? |
| 09:40.14 | Huey | (as in, which key performs the left-click?) |
| 09:40.14 | ma3x | Guerin, check this error if you have time http://pastebin.com/350818 |
| 09:40.17 | DotHack | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:40.24 | ma3x | can you try to play the same url and tell me if its okay for you? |
| 09:40.24 | resiak | nvz: Maybe you were drunk? |
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| 09:40.30 | DotHack | From My documents that is |
| 09:40.32 | jm_ | Huey: would be handy to have that |
| 09:40.32 | resiak | DotHack: Get a better file manager ? |
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| 09:40.53 | yang | tarzeau: using setxkbmap how would i define slovene keyboard...from which list do i specify it |
| 09:40.59 | Fireball41 | DotHack: what do u use to access your samba share ? |
| 09:41.06 | tarzeau | yang: try setxkbmap sv |
| 09:41.09 | tarzeau | or so |
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| 09:42.13 | DotHack | Just windows XP |
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| 09:42.31 | DotHack | i redirected the my documents folder to z: wich is the homes share |
| 09:42.33 | yang | tarzeau: hm doesnt work...I previously had german keyboard defined with german letters like OAU, now i get just ????? there |
| 09:42.52 | DotHack | when i create a file via my computer -> z: everything is fine |
| 09:42.59 | jm_ | yang: XFree86 has definition for it |
| 09:43.03 | fireba11 | DotHack: so u use windows e.g. explorer !? |
| 09:43.17 | Buuyo^ | Which module is supposed to support the Intel ICH6 SATA controller? |
| 09:43.23 | DotHack | fireba11: yes |
| 09:43.35 | Buuyo^ | I think the initrd debian created doesn't include the support I need for that hardware |
| 09:43.59 | fireba11 | EagleCros: the problem ist probably in the sama share ;-) |
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| 09:44.02 | Guerin | ma3x: i get the same error with a build of the official cvs and the cerkinfo.be build |
| 09:44.05 | yang | jm_: so its dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and there i choose "si" layout? |
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| 09:44.07 | DotHack | fireba11: i knkow this has nothing to do with debian (except that the samba server is debian) but on the samba channel i didt get any response |
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| 09:44.11 | Guerin | ma3x: i blame the video, not the player |
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| 09:44.32 | ma3x | Guerin, what do you suggest, marillat? |
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| 09:44.37 | jeffrin | tarzeau : can you guide me to become iptables master |
| 09:44.42 | EagleCros | DotHack: that has nothing to do with the server |
| 09:44.42 | nvz | ahh cool, for a minute there I thought this SMC 8416 was going to be a PIMA |
| 09:44.53 | tarzeau | jeffrin: no, i'm a lousy iptab les guy |
| 09:44.53 | fireba11 | weird .. never experienced something like this .. is it the same no matter what PC connects of just for you ? |
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| 09:45.09 | DotHack | if i then create a file via my documents (which is essentialy the same folder) i have to press f5 to make it show |
| 09:45.14 | Guerin | ma3x: actually, i suggest you try to download that movie with a browser |
| 09:45.23 | jeffrin | tarzeau : i have mailed you |
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| 09:45.45 | DotHack | EagleCros: with what does it have to do then? Ive been searching and searching but i cant find nothing about it |
| 09:45.49 | jeffrin | tarzeau : do you know any guide in internet to become iptables master |
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| 09:45.51 | fireba11 | DotHack: there are tools to tweak windows registry for problems like that .. read some refresh option for explorer once in one of those |
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| 09:46.27 | Guerin | ma3x: you'll note it's a 260 byte binary file with some evil appleish mungery in it |
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| 09:46.33 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.34 | Guerin | in other words |
| 09:46.35 | fireba11 | DotHack: any try if another PC has the same problem |
| 09:46.40 | Guerin | it's not actually a video file |
| 09:46.47 | fireba11 | haha |
| 09:46.50 | EagleCros | DotHack: the file has been created, "it is there", proof is you see it when you refresh. My guess is that the client is the problem, i.e. eplorer |
| 09:47.03 | yang | tarzeau: hehe, i get correct letters in the text editor, but in console i get just ????? |
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| 09:47.47 | fireba11 | EagleCros: jup |
| 09:47.56 | ma3x | Guerin, it used to play it excellent before |
| 09:48.01 | ma3x | whats wrong suddenly? |
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| 09:48.08 | tralala | Buuyo^: I think it's ata_piix |
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| 09:48.09 | EagleCros | yang: did you set up your locales correctly? |
| 09:48.10 | Guerin | ma3x: apple are stupid bastards? |
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| 09:48.31 | yang | EagleCros: i think those are set to english |
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| 09:48.59 | Buuyo^ | tralala: A grep of the kernel just agreed with you ^^; |
| 09:49.14 | tralala | Buuyo^: this is how I found it out :) |
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| 09:49.14 | Trewas | ma3x: that video works for me with mplayer 1.0pre7-3.4.5 (with win32 codecs) |
| 09:49.17 | EagleCros | yang: check with locale if you see something wrong |
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| 09:49.21 | cahoot | yang: with 'console' you mean console outside X or term in X? |
| 09:49.23 | DotHack | EagleCros: that was my guess also, since it does work when i just use z: |
| 09:49.24 | Buuyo^ | tralala: yeah heh google failed me :( |
| 09:49.28 | ma3x | Trewas, with what gcc did you compile? |
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| 09:49.39 | Buuyo^ | I wasn't totally sure if ata_piix was it |
| 09:49.41 | Guerin | Trewas: interesting. From marillat? |
| 09:49.45 | ma3x | Guerin, I think it's not apple's fault. It works for Trewas |
| 09:49.46 | ricky_clarkson | Hi. helix: Are you this person: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/08/msg00206.html |
| 09:49.49 | fireba11 | DotHack: u noticed my comment about registry tweaking utils ? |
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| 09:50.05 | tralala | Buuyo^: it took a bit of time however since the grepping "beast" is a pii@366... |
| 09:50.07 | Buuyo^ | but man, seeing ata_piix.c - Intel PATA/SATA controllers in the comments at the top is 100% reassuring. |
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| 09:50.18 | yang | cahoot: xterm in X |
| 09:50.18 | Buuyo^ | tralala: heh |
| 09:50.18 | Trewas | ma3x: gcc-3.4 |
| 09:50.20 | Buuyo^ | thanks a lot :) |
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| 09:50.22 | spike | hi |
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| 09:50.24 | yang | EagleCros: Generating locales (this might take a while)... |
| 09:50.25 | yang | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.25 | Trewas | Guerin: no, self-compiled |
| 09:50.30 | Guerin | ricky_clarkson: helix's meatspace name is not biella anything |
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| 09:50.43 | Guerin | Trewas: hrm, funky. |
| 09:50.44 | yang | EagleCros: but still just ????? letters |
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| 09:51.00 | Guerin | my cvs build from about three weeks ago fails it |
| 09:51.01 | spike | I've just got this mail from cron.daily saying: "Remaining time: 103680.00 seconds". the script was chkrootkit. has anybody ever seen something like that? |
| 09:51.03 | EagleCros | yang: that with locale? |
| 09:51.07 | ricky_clarkson | Guerin: Ta. |
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| 09:51.18 | tralala | Buuyo^: modinfo has confrimed later that it supports Intel piix/ich |
| 09:51.22 | cahoot | spike: sound ominous |
| 09:51.25 | DotHack | fireba11: yes im searching for them now... cant seem to find any regarding timeings and styf |
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| 09:51.35 | Buuyo^ | lol great |
| 09:51.39 | EagleCros | but anyway, where is sl_SI from? :-? |
| 09:51.41 | Buuyo^ | Now that I know what module it is |
| 09:51.43 | ma3x | Trewas, do you think it would work with MPlayer v1.0pre7try2 source ? |
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| 09:51.47 | Buuyo^ | My problem STILL isn't solved. ;) |
| 09:51.57 | fireba11 | DotHack: tweakXP aht soem refresh settings for explorer .. and a force refresh or somthing |
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| 09:52.00 | Buuyo^ | I can't get this dell inspiron 6000 to boot from a 2.6 kernel |
| 09:52.02 | spike | cahoot: eh? I don't get how it's chkrootkit related, I've never seen such output |
| 09:52.03 | tralala | Buuyo^: Maybe the ich6 is not supported in 2.6.8 |
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| 09:52.14 | yang | EagleCros: locale gives me LANG=en_US...:( |
| 09:52.14 | resiak | spike: What are you doing in here? |
| 09:52.22 | Trewas | ma3x: I guess it should, pre7try2 has only some critical bugfixes compared to pre7 which I have |
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| 09:52.25 | Guerin | ma3x: in any case, mplayer is trivial to build - use the debian/rules file if there is one, or use checkinstall |
| 09:52.26 | nvz | I guess I should get another box up and running before I start worrying about creating a bridge to share the net connection through this box |
| 09:52.32 | Buuyo^ | tralala: I can't imagine why not. I'm looking at the 2.6.8 kernel source atm, and ICH6 is mentioned |
| 09:52.42 | ricky_clarkson | Can I change the geometry of a running tightvncserver? |
| 09:52.58 | Guerin | !sarge hardware support |
| 09:52.58 | dpkg | sarge hardware support is, like, reasonable, but not cutting edge. XFree86 does not support nVidia 6-series or 7-series graphics cards or ATI X-series cards, without binary drivers or VESA. There is also little to no support for modern Intel i9x5-ICH6 boards, nor CPU Frequency scaling on Dothan core Pentium-M chips, nor Venice and San Diego core Athlon 64 chips. |
| 09:53.02 | tralala | Buuyo^: ah, in that case... |
| 09:53.08 | spike | resiak: trying to sort out that question quickly, googling doesn't help much this time |
| 09:53.19 | Buuyo^ | I have no idea what's wrong with this stupid thing. ;) |
| 09:53.22 | resiak | spike: Heh, fair enough. *cough*traitor!*cough* |
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| 09:53.31 | delirium_ | hi guys |
| 09:53.32 | Guerin | Buuyo^: nothing, you're just using a too-old kernel. |
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| 09:53.35 | spike | and I both got no leads neither from man chkrootkit nor cron |
| 09:53.39 | tralala | Buuyo^: try with a newer kernel |
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| 09:53.53 | Buuyo^ | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686, and boot from it -> pivot_root: no such file or directory |
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| 09:53.55 | Guerin | Buuyo^: installers with newer kernels are available, I just can;'t bring one to mind right now |
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| 09:54.02 | Buuyo^ | heh ok |
| 09:54.05 | jm_ | ICH6 requires AHCI module, which is not available in 2.6.8 |
| 09:54.06 | Guerin | Buuyo^: yes. CHipset isn't supported |
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| 09:54.13 | Guerin | oh, by the way |
| 09:54.13 | Buuyo^ | holy crap |
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| 09:54.17 | Buuyo^ | that's it then |
| 09:54.23 | spike | blah |
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| 09:54.25 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd0 |
| 09:54.26 | dpkg | <jeanpoldeux> How can I know if the cpu of my girlfriend is a 386 or a 586? <greycat> jeanpoldeux: it's proprietary. |
| 09:54.37 | Guerin | is it normal for pentium 4 cpus to drop into 'modulated clock mode' for no apparent reason? |
| 09:54.38 | yang | EagleCros: looks like dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt enable my locales |
| 09:55.01 | nvz | ricky_clarkson: I don't get it :P |
| 09:55.06 | Buuyo^ | Thanks guys. |
| 09:55.06 | wols | wth is "modulated clock mode"? |
| 09:55.14 | Guerin | wols: i'd ask the same thing |
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| 09:55.23 | fireba11 | sounds like the slow-down-in-case-it-gets-too-hot-mode |
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| 09:55.39 | jm_ | Guerin: how do you know it did that? |
| 09:55.51 | fireba11 | good question ^^ |
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| 09:55.51 | Guerin | jm_: message spat out to my terminal |
| 09:55.57 | Guerin | x terminal, not linux console |
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| 09:56.00 | jm_ | maybe MCE |
| 09:56.01 | wols | Guerin: from googling, your P4 runs too hot |
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| 09:56.07 | Guerin | so i figure it must be not unimportant |
| 09:56.14 | fireba11 | *wee* so my guess was gcorrect :-) |
| 09:56.18 | wols | the P4 has a hardware feature which lets it run in throttled mode whne it gets too hot |
| 09:56.19 | Guerin | wols: might clock it down to 1.8G then |
| 09:56.22 | EagleCros | yang: sorry, I think I'm not able to help further |
| 09:56.29 | delirium_ | I was wondering, I run 2.6.8 now, would it be worth it to upgrade to a newer kernel, like 2.6.11 or is there not that much difference ? |
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| 09:56.36 | Guerin | it's 2.4 now, which is far more cpu than I need |
| 09:56.38 | wols | Guerin: unless it's OCed, jut use a proper heatsink |
| 09:56.39 | umbop | hey guys, i've installed kernel-patch-mppe however, if i do a lsmod | grep mppe i can't actually see it loaded |
| 09:56.56 | Guerin | wols: i'm using the stock parts which came with it, and it's not overclocked |
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| 09:57.11 | wols | show what a POS the intel oem sink is |
| 09:57.14 | fireba11 | 2.6.11 is testing tor the 32 cpus .. |
| 09:57.24 | Guerin | on the other hand |
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| 09:57.31 | umbop | but there's no mppe support in my kernel, and i'm unsure exactly how i would go about loaded it in, i would have presumed the patch would have automatically patched the kernel with mppe support. am i going to have to config the kernel ? |
| 09:57.39 | delirium_ | fireball : so I better stick to 2.6.8 ? |
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| 09:57.45 | Guerin | i accidentally forgot to plug the cpu fan back in on my p3-733 the other week |
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| 09:57.56 | wols | Guerin: heh |
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| 09:58.09 | Guerin | beeen running fine, 24x7, at high load, rock solid, for a week with just the stock heatsink |
| 09:58.14 | wols | umbop: if you patch a kernel, you usually have to run menuconfig to activate the patch setting, yes |
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| 09:58.18 | Guerin | never missed a beat |
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| 09:58.31 | Guerin | if only it was about 100% faster :) |
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| 09:58.53 | EagleCros | umbop: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian-build.phtml |
| 09:59.07 | umbop | thanks |
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| 09:59.38 | nvz | I just got a PIII 667mhz, and a Celeron 667Mhz sysem yesturday. so far the PS on the celeron blew on me :( |
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| 10:00.29 | wols | nvz: who cares? it's free hardware! |
| 10:00.35 | nvz | I learned a new reason dust is harmful to pcs.. in high humidity it becomes very dangerous and apperently conducts electricity.. and even in some cases makes fireworks |
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| 10:01.09 | EagleCros | cute |
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| 10:01.19 | nvz | wols: yeah well the PIII I pulled out of the rain.. the Celeron I unhooked and took off someones desk.. its ironic the celeron is the one that blew up |
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| 10:02.43 | jim | sooo... this is the new server? does it protect against the bots? |
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| 10:02.57 | jim | there's one now |
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| 10:03.08 | jm_ | they said it defaults to +E behaviour now |
| 10:03.13 | jim | and theeerrrreee he goes :) |
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| 10:03.49 | ricky_clarkson | jm_: Fantastic. |
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| 10:04.14 | EagleCros | so that means I am not able to message anybody? |
| 10:04.25 | ricky_clarkson | EagleCros: You can if you identify with nickserv. |
| 10:04.30 | Guerin | sure you are, if you're registered and identified |
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| 10:04.37 | EagleCros | which I'm not :) |
| 10:04.38 | nvz | and ask them first of course |
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| 10:04.45 | jim | EagleCros: then you cannot. |
| 10:04.49 | ricky_clarkson | EagleCros: Easy to change. |
| 10:05.13 | EagleCros | yes, although I did have this nick registered... but I guess it expired |
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| 10:05.23 | jim | EagleCros: or... don't bother... and just ask your questions on channels |
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| 10:05.41 | jim | the choice is yours |
| 10:05.59 | delirium_ | I was wondering, I run 2.6.8 now, would it be worth it to upgrade to a newer kernel, like 2.6.11 or is there not that much difference ? |
| 10:06.18 | Guerin | delirium_: security |
| 10:06.23 | nvz | I need a script that takes them bots join/parts off my screen. the fuckers have been join flooding the channel for days |
| 10:06.33 | Guerin | !nospambot |
| 10:06.33 | dpkg | i guess nospambot is http://p12n.org/tmp/nospambot.pl - put that in ~/.irssi/scripts and do /run nospambot to ignore join and quit messages of users who stay online for 2 seconds or less |
| 10:06.35 | jim | or... read up/google/think/try things/think/read/think/try/repeat |
| 10:06.36 | EagleCros | well, registered now |
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| 10:06.38 | Ronin | nvz: nospambot and /ignore |
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| 10:06.49 | nvz | I dont want to turn off or ignore parts all together cause that would suck |
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| 10:07.07 | Guerin | !nospambot is also change my $timeout to a higher number to ignore bots who evade the k-line for more than 2 seconds |
| 10:07.07 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 10:07.34 | delirium_ | Guerin : is it as stable as 2.6.8 ? Sometimes I hear a lot about issues with newer kernels, maybe staying with an older, more proven kernel is safer ? |
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| 10:07.46 | EagleCros | !nospambot |
| 10:07.46 | dpkg | hmm... nospambot is http://p12n.org/tmp/nospambot.pl - put that in ~/.irssi/scripts and do /run nospambot to ignore join and quit messages of users who stay online for 2 seconds or less, or change my 10:07:46 2005out to a higher number to ignore bots who evade the k-line for more than 2 seconds |
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| 10:07.54 | EagleCros | nice |
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| 10:07.57 | Guerin | delirium_: depends. is this an internet-facing machine? |
| 10:08.04 | Guerin | bah |
| 10:08.10 | nvz | you got to love FOSS just when you thing you have an idea, someone's already thought of it |
| 10:08.16 | tombs | hi ppl |
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| 10:08.23 | Guerin | $time gets turned into a cleverness in dpkg |
| 10:08.30 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: say $time |
| 10:08.31 | EagleCros | lol |
| 10:08.31 | dpkg | $time |
| 10:08.33 | delirium_ | Guerin : yes, it's on my laptop, which I use everyday |
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| 10:08.43 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: what time is it |
| 10:08.45 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: I think you lost me on that one |
| 10:08.47 | Guerin | delirium_: better use a new one then |
| 10:08.49 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: what time is it is <reply>\$time |
| 10:08.50 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 10:09.09 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: what time is <reply>\$time |
| 10:09.10 | dpkg | okay, ricky_clarkson |
| 10:09.12 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: what time |
| 10:09.12 | dpkg | 10:09:12 2005 |
| 10:09.15 | ricky_clarkson | Hah. |
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| 10:09.23 | nvz | I love linux, got a 20GB hd in this old HP Vectra now..and debian boots off it fine and recoginizes it all despite the fact the ancient BIOS software thinks its like 8GB or something |
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| 10:09.35 | delirium_ | Guerin : also want to get rid of the old 2.4 kernel. Do I just apt-get remove the kernel-image and kernel-headers ? |
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| 10:09.41 | wols | delirium_: imho it's very situational. E.g. I use XFS and 2.6.8 gives me many strange warnings in my kernel log. and the newest kernel has lots of stuff fixed in XFS or so the changelog says |
| 10:10.04 | jtan325 | argh i can't remember the other debian channel, debian-devel and what? |
| 10:10.12 | tralala | delirium_: not exactly... you want to remove kernel-image-2.4.something |
| 10:10.22 | Guerin | delirium_: yup |
| 10:10.30 | wols | nvz: I had a 486 and a 40GB disk. Linux run fine with it (PIO) |
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| 10:10.40 | Guerin | the kernel image and headers, meaning 'the one you want to get rid of' |
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| 10:10.57 | wols | unless it's the 137GB barrier, hardware is capable with all disks. it's only the braindead BIOS which doesn't recognize bigger disks |
| 10:10.57 | delirium_ | wols : I haven't had any problem with 2.6.8, but it's default on Debian so it should be tested very well |
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| 10:11.53 | jm_ | nvz: how old is it? |
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| 10:11.54 | delirium_ | wols : then again, I haven't done any complicated stuff with my laptop, I'm just happy I am able to run Debian the way I got it now. |
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| 10:12.22 | nvz | wols: yeah usually I cant get the fuckers to boot though. I usually have to put in a smaller boot drive and then put my big drives in. This one though it detects as an 8GB which is enough to get it to pass control to grub, and I made a small 23mb or so /boot |
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| 10:12.48 | nvz | jm_: I dont know its an HP Vectra VL PentiumMMX 233 system |
| 10:12.49 | wols | nvz: yes. I had to use a 4GB scsi drive for / |
| 10:13.10 | nvz | wols: I am booting off the drive though, which is really cool :P |
| 10:13.14 | jm_ | nvz: ahh those might have a shitty bug in BIOS requiring d flag when installin GRUB |
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| 10:13.37 | msn | I have a debian sid system, I need to clean unwanted or left over files after I uninstalled around 2 GB of aplications.. is there a tool in deb for that or I have to go about it manually |
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| 10:14.01 | wols | msn: deporphan and debfoster |
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| 10:14.18 | msn | thanks wols |
| 10:14.19 | jm_ | they have also added a workaround for that to stage1 "lately", so one no longer needs "d" flag, or shouldn't anyway |
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| 10:15.20 | nvz | jm_: *shrug* I installed debian and it booted fine. I knew when it detected the 20GB as a 8gb I had it.. I dont care what it thinks it is as loong as it thinks it can read the MBR of the fucker |
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| 10:16.46 | Ravious | Is there anyone here who might be able to help me out with a samba issue? |
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| 10:17.07 | Guerin | wols: my celery500 thinks i have 1x6G, 1x40MB and 2x65535MB harddisks |
| 10:17.14 | Guerin | megabytes |
| 10:17.17 | Guerin | not gigabytes |
| 10:17.20 | jm_ | nvz: that also worked for me on P133, but not on P200 |
| 10:17.21 | tgwj | Ravious, just ask |
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| 10:17.39 | wols | BIOS must die! |
| 10:17.42 | nvz | I had this 60GB USB enclosed drive one time that went dead and any pc you would stick it in internally would lock up at the bios screen trying to detect it. I just disabled the IDE controller and used it with linux for years. linux finds and enables the controller anyhow |
| 10:17.42 | wols | !stab BIOS |
| 10:17.47 | Guerin | wols: openbios must live |
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| 10:18.00 | EagleCros | origami Swiss Army knife |
| 10:18.06 | EagleCros | rofl, I liked that one |
| 10:18.09 | wols | Guerin: I'd rather have something like openfirmware |
| 10:18.11 | Ravious | I'm trying to connect to a samba server running on debian from XP but no matter what username and password I put in, it always is rejected. no fire walls are on |
| 10:18.16 | wols | but apple is discontinuing it |
| 10:18.17 | Guerin | wols: that's what I mean |
| 10:18.19 | Guerin | oh |
| 10:18.23 | Guerin | stupid apple |
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| 10:18.35 | Guerin | </tautology> |
| 10:18.39 | wols | apple switches to intel and it's either BIOS or EFS for them now |
| 10:18.45 | wols | skylla and charybdis |
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| 10:18.46 | Ravious | I have been told that it may have to do with something about encrypted passwords, but I have no idea how to fix that |
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| 10:19.15 | Guerin | Ravious: #samba |
| 10:19.16 | wols | Ravious: have you run "smbpasswd" for your user? |
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| 10:19.53 | wols | Ravious: run "smbpasswd -a Ravious" as root |
| 10:20.02 | Ravious | yeah |
| 10:20.04 | nvz | wols: switching to intel could be a big mistake especially if its x86 compatible intel. it will only be a matter of time before macs are running windows and windows pcs are running macos |
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| 10:20.21 | wols | nvz: they already are |
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| 10:20.41 | Guerin | nvz: i think it's a bad idea because it's a loss of diversity |
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| 10:20.51 | wols | nvz: but what the geek population does, doesn't really matter, just as long as you can't buy a PC from Dell or bestbuy with it |
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| 10:20.54 | nvz | Guerin: yeah that too. |
| 10:20.55 | skate | yo, is it even possible to run dual sound cards using OSS on stable? |
| 10:21.01 | Guerin | nvz: having two hardware platforms to work on made things more complex |
| 10:21.03 | skate | or am i gonna be forced to run ALSA |
| 10:21.07 | skate | i can't find shit for docs |
| 10:21.11 | beanz | Which versions of nfs does Stable support? |
| 10:21.17 | Guerin | skate: dunno. It is possible in alsa. |
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| 10:21.19 | wols | also, PPC as a high performance mainstream arch is dead. apple just hasn#t the volume to move enough kit to make it worthwhile for IBM and Freescale |
| 10:21.27 | wols | so changing CPUs was inevitable |
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| 10:21.32 | Guerin | !info nfs-user-server sarge |
| 10:21.37 | dpkg | nfs-user-server: (User space NFS server), section net, is extra. Version: 2.2beta47-20 (sarge), Packaged size: 100 kB, Installed size: 276 kB |
| 10:21.47 | Guerin | hrm |
| 10:21.54 | Guerin | that word 'beta' in a stable package |
| 10:21.55 | Guerin | nice |
| 10:22.04 | wols | Guerin: it's nfs... |
| 10:22.05 | dentist | guys... i've noticed (using lsmod) that my system loads a couple of modules I dont need... how do i stop them running on startup ? |
| 10:22.11 | beanz | Guerin: so which versions does it support? |
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| 10:22.39 | wols | beanz: kernel supports nfs3 and nfs4. dunno about userspace |
| 10:22.44 | Guerin | beanz: dunno. Presume 2.2 |
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| 10:23.02 | Guerin | but that does sound old, that might be an unrelated version |
| 10:23.03 | beanz | wols, Guerin: great, thanks. |
| 10:23.21 | nvz | if I bridge my nics to provide internet to these other pcs, do I have to run DHCP, or does the router just see them as though they were connected to a hub, and they can still get DHCP from the router? |
| 10:23.47 | dentist | like... where is the config file that contains all the modules to be loaded on startup? |
| 10:23.55 | EagleCros | dentist: man modules |
| 10:23.56 | nvz | dentist: /etc/modules |
| 10:24.07 | wols | dentist: /etc/modules, but there is also stuff like discover in sarge so I dunno |
| 10:24.22 | wols | really need to read up on that |
| 10:24.38 | nvz | dentist: thats read by /etc/init.d/modutils however modules could be loaded by discover, hotplug or by the kernel's autoloader |
| 10:24.47 | Guerin | yeah |
| 10:24.49 | dentist | yeah i checked /etc/modules and its basicly empty |
| 10:25.00 | Guerin | it's like playing whack-a-mole to get modules to not load on boot |
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| 10:25.21 | dentist | lists ide-cd, detect etc etc etc |
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| 10:25.40 | shadowcat | what's a good Calendar program for Linux? |
| 10:25.42 | wols | Guerin: starts to remind me of windows autostart crap :) |
| 10:25.48 | nvz | shadowcat: cal works for me |
| 10:25.50 | dentist | snd <00 its things like that i want to disable |
| 10:26.02 | wols | dentist: those are all alsa |
| 10:26.05 | nvz | shadowcat: its already on your system too |
| 10:26.13 | Guerin | wols: you're not the first to ake that comparison |
| 10:26.14 | msn | wols: deborphan and debfoster searches for packages, while I am looking for someway to remove the files left after using apt-get remove instead of apt-get --purge remove |
| 10:26.15 | shadowcat | nvz: hmm I meant something more in the league of Outlook |
| 10:26.34 | dentist | alsa? |
| 10:26.37 | skate | shadowcat: evolution |
| 10:26.37 | nvz | shadowcat: what shitty propriatary software that does way more than calandar? |
| 10:26.39 | wols | shadowcat: evolution probably |
| 10:26.46 | shadowcat | hmm... |
| 10:26.47 | wols | dentist: linux sound subsystem |
| 10:26.53 | nvz | shadowcat: you mean groupware suite maybe, not a calandar |
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| 10:26.59 | dentist | yeah sure, but how do i stp it loadeding :) |
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| 10:27.08 | shadowcat | nvz: well what I'm really missing is a calendar/scheduling software |
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| 10:27.10 | Guerin | shadowcat: xcalendar |
| 10:27.11 | wols | nvz: outlook on its own is not groupware |
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| 10:27.18 | Guerin | shadowcat: cron |
| 10:27.20 | Guerin | :) |
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| 10:27.30 | shadowcat | Guerin: for me, not the box _P |
| 10:27.32 | shadowcat | :P |
| 10:27.38 | shadowcat | I'm trying to print out schedules |
| 10:27.41 | wols | dentist: I'd start by removing discover and hotplug if they're installed |
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| 10:27.48 | shadowcat | and evolution's print capabilites are severely limited |
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| 10:27.53 | nvz | I use cal for nearly anything calandar related |
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| 10:28.17 | Guerin | shadowcat: diary - available from your local bookshop for $1 nowadays - $3 for next year's |
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| 10:28.36 | shadowcat | heh |
| 10:28.41 | shadowcat | very funny Guerin :P |
| 10:28.42 | wols | Guerin: must be a hitech diary which can print schedules |
| 10:28.43 | msn | heh |
| 10:28.43 | shadowcat | oh well |
| 10:28.53 | Phated | Never losing your appointments due to a crash - priceless? |
| 10:29.03 | shadowcat | I might as well Wine Office XP again |
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| 10:29.14 | shadowcat | Phated: I always have 20000 backups |
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| 10:29.25 | wols | shadowcat: sunbird perhaps (but where to find a deb for it) |
| 10:29.28 | trym | if I want to use dpkg-buildpackage on a source package.. how can I change certain options first? Im trying to recompile courier-maildrop to support mysql (the debian way, preferably) |
| 10:29.28 | Phated | Sure. |
| 10:29.32 | Phated | Fair enough. |
| 10:29.36 | Guerin | wols: true. |
| 10:29.39 | shadowcat | wols: sunbird is no where near finished |
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| 10:29.49 | shadowcat | but I'll check it out |
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| 10:30.03 | wols | trym: looked into the debian/ directory in the source tree? |
| 10:30.03 | [or | cool |
| 10:30.05 | msn | shadowcat: there a calendar plugin for firefox/mozilla |
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| 10:30.14 | wols | trym: there you can tweak how it calls configure |
| 10:30.19 | shadowcat | msn: ya it's sunbird :P |
| 10:30.35 | defcon8 | i am on debian and when i open the net menu in E it segfaults. anyone know what to do? |
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| 10:30.38 | msn | yeah I don't remember the name.. |
| 10:30.44 | defcon8 | E for enlightenment wm |
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| 10:30.58 | wols | dentist: E17 ? |
| 10:31.00 | [or | help: I'm installing deb on an old lappy, I want to boot from floppy, but install from my external USB CDRom (which is being picked up fine by the boot disk) what commands (and where) do I need to pass? thanks |
| 10:31.03 | msn | wols: any other ideas on cleaning |
| 10:31.04 | trym | wols: ah sweet |
| 10:31.05 | wols | defcon8 of course |
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| 10:31.11 | nvz | defcon8: check the bts, file a bug |
| 10:31.16 | defcon8 | wols, naah i am on etch and it is 16.7 i think |
| 10:31.25 | defcon8 | nvz, site please |
| 10:31.34 | wols | msn: nothing readymade, no |
| 10:31.35 | nvz | defcon8: bugs.debian.org |
| 10:31.50 | msn | guess I have to go the old way |
| 10:31.56 | msn | hunting down applications |
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| 10:32.12 | msn | or just install them all again and then nuinstall using --purge :P |
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| 10:32.26 | wols | msn: with dpkg -l you could get the packages which have files which aren't purged yet |
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| 10:32.40 | dentist | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.45 | wols | you then could parse that and run dpkg -purge for each of the ones that apple |
| 10:32.47 | wols | *apply |
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| 10:33.04 | Guerin | i agree with dpkg --purging apple |
| 10:33.04 | wols | dentist: I found out too. apt-get remove discover :) |
| 10:33.05 | nvz | fuck, my status window is filled with global messages, and I just logged on an hour ago. Lilo should write a book or something if he's got that much to say |
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| 10:33.14 | qwd | hi all!!! |
| 10:33.17 | [or | I'm installing deb on an old lappy, I want to boot from floppy, but install from my external USB CDRom (which is being picked up fine by the boot disk) what commands (and where) do I need to pass? thanks |
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| 10:33.43 | [or | come on dudes! surely you know this one! |
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| 10:34.07 | qwd | I'am from Russia!!! |
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| 10:34.21 | streuner | good, ask a debian question |
| 10:34.48 | tgwj | qwd, so what ? |
| 10:34.50 | Guerin | qwd: awesome! |
| 10:34.59 | FallOnMe | Is it a bot? ;-) |
| 10:35.10 | qwd | were are you from?? |
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| 10:35.24 | skate | yer mom. |
| 10:35.25 | wols | qwd: we're all from #debian obviously |
| 10:35.28 | Guerin | FallOnMe: i don't believe so. A bot would demonstrate that it's from russia by its actions... |
| 10:35.29 | tgwj | bavaria, germany ! |
| 10:35.32 | [or | so anyone here actually know anything about deb? or is it just a take the piss out of foreigners channel? |
| 10:35.32 | qwd | =) |
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| 10:35.55 | Guerin | [or: easy tiger |
| 10:35.58 | wols | [or: we're very capable of both, thank you |
| 10:35.59 | Guerin | have some patience |
| 10:36.10 | nvz | !piav |
| 10:36.10 | dpkg | Patience is a virtue - just wait and someone will answer you. |
| 10:36.13 | trym | does anyone know if the courier-maildrop package in the debian sarge repository actually has mysql maildrop support ? |
| 10:36.16 | [or | dude! I've waited two years for this chip! that's effin patience! |
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| 10:36.33 | Guerin | haha |
| 10:36.35 | [or | dpkg, prove it! |
| 10:36.41 | qwd | tgwj How live in Bavaria |
| 10:36.46 | qwd | ? |
| 10:36.48 | EagleCros | !dpkg |
| 10:36.49 | dpkg | dpkg is, like, the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack, or a smart infobot, or voltagex's friend |
| 10:36.50 | wols | trym: check its dependencies. if it does, mysql must be there somewhere I'd say |
| 10:36.52 | Guerin | [or: ok, he'll prove it ... but first you have to wait. |
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| 10:36.58 | [or | that's plain silly |
| 10:37.01 | tgwj | [or, I say boot from the pile of floppies and it should ask you from where to install... select cdrom... |
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| 10:37.24 | [or | it doesn't ask |
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| 10:37.35 | qwd | Íó è ïîøëè âñå â æîïó!!! |
| 10:37.37 | [or | it just looks for my network card and gives me mirror options |
| 10:37.39 | tgwj | qwd, are you expecting me to say bavaria is great or to explain to you that we live in houses ? |
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| 10:37.41 | defcon8 | wtf? |
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| 10:38.00 | [or | I don't need ethernet yet, it's pcmcia, I can deal with that later *once it's installed* |
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| 10:38.17 | qwd | tgwj is GOOD!! |
| 10:38.26 | linuxfreck | tgwj: heh, nice one |
| 10:38.43 | qwd | iam live in Moscow |
| 10:38.44 | qwd | =) |
| 10:38.47 | trym | wee it worked |
| 10:38.51 | skate | qwd: welcome to my iggy bin. |
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| 10:39.06 | Guerin | qwd: if you want to chat, join ##linux or something |
| 10:39.07 | tgwj | dpkg, beer qwd please |
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| 10:39.25 | tgwj | lol it didn't understand the please |
| 10:39.26 | skate | yuengling! |
| 10:39.31 | skate | that is a good beer |
| 10:39.38 | [or | I'm not impatient, I've just been up for 26 hours, and ain't going to bed until windows has been eradicated from this machine. when I help people (which is most of my life) I just do it, can someone here please do the same. as a favour |
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| 10:39.59 | streuner | qwd: this a debian help channel, almost everything is technical discussions here... |
| 10:39.59 | qwd | Ïîøåë òû íà õóé!! |
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| 10:40.06 | BleSS | where configure locales LC = ... LANG= ... ? what config. file |
| 10:40.07 | jim | [or: you are strongly advised to sleep before doing this. |
| 10:40.11 | [or | nup |
| 10:40.19 | tgwj | BleSS, /etc/environment |
| 10:40.22 | wols | !ru |
| 10:40.22 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
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| 10:40.30 | BleSS | tgwj, thx |
| 10:40.40 | [or | I've laready been googling for an hour on this |
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| 10:40.47 | qwd | =))) |
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| 10:41.16 | tgwj | qwd, so the d-i doesn't give you the option to use cdrom as apt source ? |
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| 10:41.18 | jim | [or: do you care about the data on your hd? |
| 10:41.22 | [or | nope |
| 10:41.24 | jim | what if you lost all of it? |
| 10:41.24 | tgwj | i mean [or |
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| 10:41.31 | [or | wipe it away! |
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| 10:41.43 | jim | on every drive in the machine? |
| 10:41.52 | streuner | dpkg, nickometer [or |
| 10:41.52 | dpkg | '[or' is 16.000% lame, streuner |
| 10:41.58 | [or | only one, it's an old machine (laptop) |
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| 10:42.15 | [or | it's usually (or, but that's a rreserved character in IRC |
| 10:42.29 | tgwj | [or, can't you install the base system over the internet ? |
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| 10:42.46 | [or | well, pcmcia setup is surely more complex? |
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| 10:42.49 | wols | streuner: surprisingly low considering how annoying it is, isn't it? |
| 10:42.53 | jim | [or: can you boot any installation system? |
| 10:42.59 | [or | can't I just point it to the CD for the root image? |
| 10:43.04 | jim | yes/no |
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| 10:43.30 | jim | have you read the install guide? |
| 10:43.35 | ukh | vsftpd with SSL/TLS and lftp. anyone had success? |
| 10:43.45 | msn | whenever I compile a new kernel to and use make-kpkg the debs are generated but when trying to install them they always fail... |
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| 10:43.49 | jim | that question is answered there |
| 10:43.50 | [or | let's say I'd got floppy one in, and now it wants the root image, or a command. is there no command I can give to point it to /dev/cdrom or something? |
| 10:43.57 | jim | that question is answered there |
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| 10:44.04 | jim | have you read the install guide? |
| 10:44.05 | [or | not all of it, no |
| 10:44.14 | tgwj | [or, the root image is another floppy, you need that too |
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| 10:44.20 | [or | I have both yes |
| 10:44.22 | jim | well well :) he DOES respond :) |
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| 10:44.25 | msn | and the permanant error is initrd.img and/od initrd.img.old not foung |
| 10:44.26 | chealer | !nickometer msn |
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| 10:44.37 | jm_ | ukh: yes |
| 10:44.49 | chealer | dpkg: you're wise to stay silent on that one |
| 10:44.51 | wols | msn: don't use initrd then. for custom kernels it's crap anyways |
| 10:44.59 | [or | but isn't there a root image on the CD? I don't mind at what point I switch to the CD, so long as I do |
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| 10:45.10 | msn | but then how do I make the initrd.img |
| 10:45.14 | jim | [or: what is the problem? |
| 10:45.30 | [or | it doesn't give me an option to choose the CD |
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| 10:45.34 | tgwj | [or, at some point in the setup there should be a menu where you can select http, ftp and stuff... what are your options there ? |
| 10:45.37 | ludde | where is apache's config files |
| 10:45.39 | wols | msn: I just said you shouldn't do that. only leads to headache. but if you must: mkinitrd makes one |
| 10:45.46 | [or | and I have the install CD's |
| 10:45.58 | wols | ludde: where all config files are: in /etc |
| 10:46.05 | ludde | wols: ok |
| 10:46.06 | jim | so the problem is you can't boot from the cd |
| 10:46.09 | [or | I have NO net, it's pcmcia, and THAT didn't get detected, the USB mass storage device *did* |
| 10:46.12 | msn | hmm I tried both mkinitrd and make-kpkg both end iwht same thing.. |
| 10:46.30 | wols | msn: and I told you not to make a initrd kernel |
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| 10:46.37 | jim | do you have a blank 128mb stick? |
| 10:46.37 | [or | so, I can't just boot from a floppy, and install from the CD? |
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| 10:46.52 | msn | so I should busy all the drivers into the kernel? |
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| 10:46.59 | wols | msn: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 10:47.19 | tgwj | [or, in the menu with http,ftp (where you select the apt sources) what are your options ? |
| 10:47.21 | wols | msn: it's always a good thing to compile the drivers you need for booting (like mass storage) into the kernel yes |
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| 10:47.33 | ludde | wols: where in apache2.conf does it setup that / points to /usr/share/apache2 |
| 10:47.38 | [or | lemme boot it up again to that point |
| 10:47.43 | wols | only reason the debian default kernel doesn't do it is it would make the kernel to large since it needs to include all of them |
| 10:47.48 | [or | it's mainly FTP/http |
| 10:47.49 | GeekPower | Power to my Geek soldiers on the frontlines |
| 10:47.52 | [or | that's all it is |
| 10:47.53 | jim | that's your choice (just like your choice to not sleep before doing familiar operations (installation) using unfamiliar tools) |
| 10:47.54 | wols | you don#t have every mass storage adapter ever made in your PC, do you? |
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| 10:48.04 | jm_ | ukh: lftp in Sarge has no SSL support |
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| 10:48.06 | wols | msn: maybe you should read: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 10:48.16 | ukh | jm_: do you have a working /etc/vsftpd.conf with a working /etc/lftp.conf to match? I've tried sid and vsftpd to no avail, and lftp clients on sarge, sid and freebsd. plain ftp-ssl works though |
| 10:48.19 | [or | the MAss storage was detected just fine, and the mfr, etc, all good |
| 10:48.25 | tgwj | [or, does it suggest hard disk ? you maybe could copy the base debs to disk and setup cdrom later ? |
| 10:48.32 | jim | please don't threaten to go to slackware... but I don't care... you can choose to run anything you want |
| 10:48.32 | ukh | s/sid and/sid and freebsd/ |
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| 10:48.51 | [or | THE CDROM WORKS! why can't I just *choose* it? |
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| 10:49.04 | [or | it's seems totally crazy to me |
| 10:49.05 | jim | you can, for packages |
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| 10:49.25 | jim | read the WHOLE install guide, if you want. |
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| 10:49.29 | wols | ludde: /etc/apache2# grep -R share/apache * |
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| 10:49.39 | ludde | wols: ok thanks |
| 10:49.45 | jim | does the cdrom BOOT? |
| 10:49.48 | [or | man! that's lame! if you know, just tell me |
| 10:49.55 | tgwj | [or, if you can select hard disk, maybe you can trick it into thinking the cdrom is a hard disk... |
| 10:49.57 | GeekPower | We need to start a Geek rights movement on the street level called the "Harmonious keyboards" |
| 10:50.03 | wols | !spoonfeed [or |
| 10:50.05 | dpkg | Silly [or, Unix tricks are for bots. |
| 10:50.10 | error403 | GeekPower, what you smoking? |
| 10:50.18 | jim | [or: don't try kidding :) that's what's lame :) |
| 10:50.19 | [or | wha? you think I haven't *tried* any of these things? |
| 10:50.26 | GeekPower | error403: Too much sugar and caffeine is what I'm smoking |
| 10:50.30 | [or | I only suffer this nonesense as a last resort! lol |
| 10:50.33 | jim | look... if you' |
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| 10:50.46 | GeekPower | error403: Sugar and caffeine make me feel silly and hyperactive |
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| 10:51.10 | trym | does anyone know of a graphical mysql client, with easy data editing worth recommending? I dont like mysql-administrator |
| 10:51.14 | jim | have tried things, you need to tell us what they are. I suggest you write a web page that details the entire history of what you've done to install. |
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| 10:51.17 | [or | sugar spoils its bitter effect, a waste |
| 10:51.18 | Juz_visiting | anyone with a year+ old sid install that could tell me the size of their /opt and /var please? .. trying to decide on a partitioning scheme , desktop usabe box. TIA |
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| 10:51.36 | error403 | GeekPower, then you arent a true geek - true geeks operate normally on sugar and caffiene |
| 10:51.44 | Juz_visiting | usabe=usage |
| 10:51.48 | [or | when I'm done, as ever, that's *exactly* what I'll do |
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| 10:52.01 | jim | error403: and make themselves sick (sometimes) in the process |
| 10:52.24 | wols | Juz_visiting: meaningless question |
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| 10:52.26 | GeekPower | error403: True geeks are such wimps that where most people need crack cocaine or LSD to throw them off kilter a geek is so sensitive that even caffeine and sugar can throw him for a loop biologically |
| 10:52.41 | GeekPower | error403: Not caffeine alone per se |
| 10:52.41 | wols | If I have a imap server my /var could be huge for example |
| 10:52.52 | GeekPower | error403: However the combination of sugar AND caffeine may be too much for him |
| 10:52.53 | wols | I have a few hundred MB of emails under /var |
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| 10:53.04 | wols | and that's only with one imap account there |
| 10:53.19 | skate | exactly wols |
| 10:53.38 | jim | [or: again, run anything you want... slack, redhat, yellodog, fedora, knoppix, whatever... (notice I didn't say debian; it's not all that pleasant to try supporting you.) |
| 10:53.40 | skate | why would you partition a disk according to the sizes of someone else's directories |
| 10:53.44 | FallOnMe | Juz_visiting: /opt is not getting used in Debian. As for /var, if this were a server I'd say 4 times the number you think should be enough. ;-) |
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| 10:54.55 | jim | but WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE, you will STILL need to be specific, informative, concise and complete with regard to what your hardware is and what you've tried. if you -don't- do that, you'll leave frustrated helpers in your wake. |
| 10:55.00 | [or | jim, can you tell me simply this: can it be done? |
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| 10:55.01 | wols | Juz_visiting: if it's a desktop machine (a severely hope so since you ask for sid), use a single big partition. if you must use separate ones for /boot, /home and /. that's about it |
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| 10:55.17 | jim | no. (why do you think that is?) |
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| 10:55.33 | [or | I have no idea |
| 10:55.38 | Juz_visiting | wols no seperate /opt ? |
| 10:55.43 | jim | I'm saying I can't tell you yes or no... |
| 10:55.44 | [or | because deb is special? |
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| 10:55.59 | wols | Juz_visiting: people already told you that debian doesn't use /opt ever. this is not SuSE here |
| 10:56.06 | jim | well the installer tends to be a bottleneck at times |
| 10:56.06 | Juz_visiting | what does deb use instead of opt? |
| 10:56.07 | [or | you can't? or won't? |
| 10:56.08 | Shorty` | what is /opt for? :P |
| 10:56.12 | wols | [or: no, cause you're special |
| 10:56.16 | jim | I can't! |
| 10:56.22 | jim | (why?) |
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| 10:56.34 | Juz_visiting | coming from Arch .. they filled up my opt |
| 10:56.37 | wols | Shorty`: some strange distros put things like kde or OO.org in there for some unknown rason |
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| 10:56.42 | FallOnMe | Juz_visiting: nothing, /opt is usually for third-party apps (in Solaris, at least) |
| 10:56.43 | [or | that's a circular question |
| 10:56.44 | GeekPower | error403: If you can think of a better name than "The harmonious keyboards" I'm all ears |
| 10:56.47 | wols | "optional packages" was the first name for ti afaik |
| 10:56.50 | Shorty` | ah, right. |
| 10:56.54 | Shorty` | ahah |
| 10:57.03 | [or | I must assume you *can't* tell me because you *don't* know |
| 10:57.09 | [or | what other reason could there be? |
| 10:57.12 | Shorty` | so everythign that's NOT in */bin and */sbin* should go in there |
| 10:57.14 | jim | why can I not say yes or no? because I don't know what your hardware situation is exactly. |
| 10:57.18 | Shorty` | because they're all optional? :) |
| 10:57.27 | tgwj | Juz_visiting, in debian, /opt is just an empty dir for user-installed apps. debian puts everything (including kde etc) in /usr |
| 10:57.32 | error403 | GeekPower, we already have one - its called #linux |
| 10:57.43 | Shorty` | I love the debian fs layout |
| 10:57.49 | Shorty` | it SHITS me workign on non-debian machiens |
| 10:57.53 | Shorty` | files fucking everywhere |
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| 10:57.54 | [or | the question was: is it possible to boot from a floppy and install from an external USB CD, what model of laptop is irrelevant |
| 10:57.55 | jethro | hello |
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| 10:58.16 | jim | why am I less willing to say yes no or anything else? because you have not yet provided a full and complete history of what you've done to install. |
| 10:58.30 | [or | how is that important? |
| 10:58.31 | wols | [or: yes it's possible. as for how much tweaking the default installer you have to do to accomplish it, I doN#t know |
| 10:58.37 | [or | not relevant to the quastion |
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| 10:58.52 | jim | now answer me this question... do you think I am alone? |
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| 10:58.58 | [or | unless you feel you need to teach me something deeper. I don't seek knowledge, simply information |
| 10:59.09 | wols | jim: of course it is possible, if he can boot a kernel and has some working mass storage device, he can install debian |
| 10:59.13 | [or | alone? |
| 10:59.16 | [or | in what sense? |
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| 10:59.32 | skate | [or: you are annoying. |
| 10:59.32 | FallOnMe | Shorty`: eh. The stuff you install locally (from source) usually goes into /usr/local (/usr/local/{bin,sbin,man,...}). Commercial software packages usually find themselves in /opt/VENDORpackage, it's lib/, bin/, etc. under that directory. |
| 10:59.44 | jim | in the sense of inability to help based on failure to get your setup |
| 10:59.45 | FallOnMe | s/it's/its/ |
| 10:59.49 | jim | AND |
| 11:00.02 | ukh | jm_: ok, if I force lftp to build with openssl rather than gnutls it works. have you been able to make vanilla lftp from sid work? |
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| 11:00.24 | jim | in the sense of unwillingness to help because you are refusing to provide information |
| 11:00.33 | [or | isn't it possible to give clues and hints as to the steps one might take to achieve this goal? how can it be better to deny this kind of information? |
| 11:00.43 | tgwj | [or, i believe you can start a shell from within the installer. try mounting your cdrom or whatever; when you've done that, continue with the installation .... |
| 11:00.48 | jm_ | ukh: I took lftp from sid and built it on Sarge with TLS and it works |
| 11:00.54 | jim | yes. as a matter of fact, that is possible :) |
| 11:01.08 | [or | well, I tried that, but it won't mount. it doesn't seem to recognise it as a block device |
| 11:01.13 | FallOnMe | Shorty`: I put binary installs of stuff in /opt even under Debian, all those things that unpack into a single directory. Like /opt/Azureus. |
| 11:01.19 | [or | even thoughh it picks it up fine in the previous screen |
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| 11:01.46 | jim | maybe you could use a shell |
| 11:01.53 | tgwj | [or, then your earlier statement "the cdrom works" is obviously false, at least for the kernel the d-i floppies use. |
| 11:02.01 | [or | I tried in the busybox shell that comes with it |
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| 11:02.35 | [or | when I say it works, I mean it was recognised, spun up, and made all the sounds that it normally makes when other systems pick it up |
| 11:02.40 | jim | but one problem might be that the installer may not completely be present at the time you try mounting the device |
| 11:02.51 | error403 | I have a very odd problem with XFree86 - when i boot up, it often uses the 100dpi fonts, even though i have edited my config to use 75dpi instead - however, if i hard-reboot the x server a couple of times, it uses the 75dpi fonts |
| 11:02.54 | FallOnMe | Shorty`: so maybe those distros that use /opt for OO.o and KDE just use upstream provided binaries and follow the same logic |
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| 11:02.55 | [or | the installer? |
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| 11:03.05 | [or | isn't that on floppy 2? |
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| 11:03.08 | jim | yes. the installer is arranged in pieces. |
| 11:03.16 | tgwj | [or, what device are you trying to mount ? |
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| 11:03.25 | [or | external USB Mass storage device |
| 11:03.25 | jim | a usb cdrom |
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| 11:03.29 | [or | LaCIe CDRW |
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| 11:03.45 | tgwj | i mean /dev/scd0 or what ` |
| 11:03.47 | [or | Teac inside |
| 11:03.55 | tgwj | dpkg, kick [or |
| 11:03.56 | [or | damn, I just rebooted it |
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| 11:04.34 | [or | I have no experience of USB with Linux, so I realise I'm a total n00b |
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| 11:04.56 | jim | that's not really a problem... you seem otherwise clued... if obstinate :) |
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| 11:04.58 | [or | there's a /dev/usb, isn't that it? |
| 11:05.03 | jethro | !n00b |
| 11:05.04 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 11:05.09 | [or | heh |
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| 11:05.29 | error403 | hehe |
| 11:05.30 | [or | I mean, if it can read the unit's firmware, surely it can read its disks! |
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| 11:05.42 | jim | well, there has to be a driver |
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| 11:06.07 | jim | it seems you're this --><-- close |
| 11:06.14 | [or | I haven'#t tried /dev/scd0, I'll try that in a minute |
| 11:06.23 | tgwj | [or, the module for usb sticks is called usb-storage I believe. |
| 11:06.31 | jim | also, you ran slackware before? |
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| 11:06.48 | [or | it states "USB mass storage support enabled" and spits out the units details |
| 11:06.55 | jim | see if lsusb does anything interesting |
| 11:06.56 | ScottPlantagenet | error403: I disagree this is our symbol : http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/7727/ |
| 11:07.09 | cahoot | [or: no pointer in dmesg as to what device it is? or is there no demsg to access? |
| 11:07.17 | jim | you think that's not your symbol? |
| 11:07.19 | ScottPlantagenet | error403: "Harmonious keyboards" like the harmonious fists of china in the Boxer Rebellion |
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| 11:07.34 | [or | going through the screens... |
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| 11:07.47 | ScottPlantagenet | haha |
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| 11:08.31 | [or | right |
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| 11:08.55 | Fireball41 | löl |
| 11:08.57 | jim | remember we can't see what you're doing :P it's awful hard to help under those conditions... if you keep us at arms length wrt such information, this isn't going to fly well and none of us will claim to be having fun now |
| 11:08.58 | [or | yeah, I have a Slackware server here |
| 11:09.04 | tgwj | !shoor Eclipser |
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| 11:09.13 | tgwj | !shoot Eclipser |
| 11:09.21 | [or | okay, I tried to mount /dev/scd0 but it doesn't exist |
| 11:09.36 | jim | can you get to a shell on the machine that's running the installer? |
| 11:09.47 | Eclipser | tgwj, :< |
| 11:09.59 | liable | dont forget its devfs./. |
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| 11:10.15 | jim | uzis aren't as fast as Kenny G's repeat rate |
| 11:10.28 | [or | I am in the shell now |
| 11:10.29 | xhypno | hey all |
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| 11:10.39 | tgwj | dpkg, shoot jim |
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| 11:10.54 | jim | ok, try lspci lsusb dmesg |
| 11:11.01 | [or | it's a busybox thing, but has lots of stuff |
| 11:11.06 | jim | as separate commands :) |
| 11:11.20 | jim | right, it uses busybox |
| 11:11.26 | [or | lspci not found |
| 11:11.46 | liable | wouldnt it be /dev/scsi/lun0/bus0/blah/blah... |
| 11:11.48 | tgwj | the cdrom isnt pci anyway |
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| 11:12.10 | majnoon | trying chroot install but nmot working |
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| 11:12.12 | jim | he might find other interesting stuff, you never know |
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| 11:12.33 | majnoon | it hanging up on base-config new |
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| 11:12.42 | jim | so you lost your job wile trying chroot install??! |
| 11:12.43 | Eclipser | I'm truly a master of making (near-)infinite loops in regex engines |
| 11:13.03 | xhypno | lol |
| 11:13.15 | tgwj | !vodka Eclipser |
| 11:13.22 | majnoon | the INSTALL not working :P:P |
| 11:13.24 | [or | I got to the lun0 inside scsi, but it won't mount |
| 11:13.36 | tgwj | ls lun0 a directory ? |
| 11:13.41 | [or | nada |
| 11:13.44 | xhypno | it should be |
| 11:14.02 | jim | see if there's anything in there |
| 11:14.06 | majnoon | this what i get |
| 11:14.09 | [or | it's empty (nada) |
| 11:14.11 | majnoon | root@box:/# /usr/sbin/base-config new |
| 11:14.11 | majnoon | Terminated |
| 11:14.12 | jethro | !doesn't work |
| 11:14.12 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 11:14.15 | error403 | I have a very odd problem with XFree86 - when i boot up, it often uses the 100dpi fonts, even though i have edited my config to use 75dpi instead - however, if i hard-reboot the x server a couple of times, it uses the 75dpi fonts. Any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 11:14.19 | Enforcer_JB | Hi everybody |
| 11:14.46 | majnoon | that is EXACT paste from the chroot |
| 11:14.56 | jim | hit it harder to get it to act better... |
| 11:14.56 | jm_ | error403: what do you mean, font path is changing or what? |
| 11:14.59 | jim | hmmmm.... |
| 11:15.09 | [or | it's /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 |
| 11:15.10 | xhypno | error403: probally a syntax error in the F86config-4 file |
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| 11:15.13 | Enforcer_JB | I run Sarge on a server. I just upgraded to php4 4.3.10-16 (from -15) and now IMP 4.0's sidebar (IMP is a webmail frontend) causes a segfault in Apache. Does anybody else have this problem? Is there anything I can do, save downgrade? Thanks! |
| 11:15.30 | majnoon | can anyone help ??? |
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| 11:16.26 | jethro | !irritate majnoon |
| 11:16.27 | dpkg | majnoon: Y iz debain so old? how can I make my kanotix werkz U FUX0RZ |
| 11:16.35 | Enforcer_JB | update: it only segfaults when I use the "folder prefix" |
| 11:16.41 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB, if php is causing a seg fault in Apache, it is most likely using the wrong Apache API. Are you using Apache 1.x or 2.x |
| 11:16.49 | Enforcer_JB | xhypno, 1.3.33 |
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| 11:16.54 | antgel | Enforcer_JB: suggest you check the bts. i've just done the same upgrade and hope that i don't see this. |
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| 11:17.09 | error403 | jm_, i think i know what the problem is - is there somewhere to change the priorities of different font paths for the font server? |
| 11:17.09 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, nothing in the BTS yet, I use apt-listbugs when installing |
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| 11:17.17 | majnoon | almost iratated enough to go back to WINDOWS |
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| 11:17.27 | jim | run what you want |
| 11:17.32 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, update: it only segfaults when I use "folder prefix" in IMPs login screen. |
| 11:17.33 | FallOnMe | xhypno: Would it not then segfault always, not just on a particulat script |
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| 11:17.45 | majnoon | trying to want debian |
| 11:17.48 | jethro | @annoy majnoon |
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| 11:17.54 | jim | threatening to go to windows will cause you to become entertainment :) |
| 11:17.56 | jethro | no ravenbird :'( |
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| 11:17.59 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB, Try uping to 2.x, I had a similar problem with unlink in the last PHP upgrade, it was compiled with the 2.x api |
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| 11:18.11 | resiak | !annoy majnoon |
| 11:18.15 | resiak | Bah |
| 11:18.15 | majnoon | at least wakes up some peoples |
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| 11:18.20 | resiak | ~annoy majnoon |
| 11:18.29 | Enforcer_JB | xhypno, I can't upgrade my server to apache 2.x, it runs hundreds of customers' virtual domains, this would be too big a change =;) |
| 11:18.33 | jm_ | error403: no it tries them in order as they are listed |
| 11:18.33 | xhypno | FallOnMe: 2.x uses a different API then 1.x, I have seen seg faults when there is a call to a nonexistent func |
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| 11:18.47 | ellobo | hi, is there any "easy" way to work around the kdelibs4/kdelibs4c2 issue ? |
| 11:18.48 | resiak | jethro: Where did all the $annoys go? |
| 11:18.52 | Enforcer_JB | xhypno, can I debug this somehow? |
| 11:18.54 | tgwj | dpkg, kill majnoon |
| 11:18.56 | resiak | ellobo: "Wait", "Don't use Sid". |
| 11:18.56 | error403 | jm_, exactly... is there somewhere where i can edit the list for the font server? |
| 11:18.59 | jethro | majnoon: bash: FFS!!: command not found |
| 11:19.02 | jim | !stop a barbie war |
| 11:19.02 | dpkg | wars are too HARD! let's just all be friends and go shopping! |
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| 11:19.05 | jethro | resiak: I ate them |
| 11:19.09 | ellobo | resiak: too late :P |
| 11:19.09 | resiak | jethro: Damn. |
| 11:19.11 | J_P | hi all |
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| 11:19.14 | resiak | !pal ellobo |
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| 11:19.18 | majnoon | this is link dpkg give me and doing it EXACTALLY http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en |
| 11:19.21 | resiak | !tell ellobo -about sid faq |
| 11:19.22 | ukh | jm_: built lftp 3.3.0-1 on sarge now. still doesn't work. is there any chance you could mail or msg me your lftp.conf and vsftpd.conf? |
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| 11:19.43 | jethro | majnoon: what is your native language? |
| 11:19.51 | majnoon | english |
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| 11:20.05 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, there is a bug about php4 4.4.0-1 segfaulting apache, but not 4.3.10-16 |
| 11:20.06 | antgel | xhypno: why are you telling him to perform a non-trivial upgrade? apache 1 is supported |
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| 11:20.08 | majnoon | jus half asleep |
| 11:20.18 | Eclipser | man this regex took ages |
| 11:20.21 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB: Not that I have seen. You can compile from source, that will fix it. But I still would suggest 2.x, on top of being Visa Sisp cert'ed, it is more stable and uses a better pre-fork engine for mem usage |
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| 11:20.44 | majnoon | and always was a bad spelfer |
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| 11:20.45 | xhypno | antgel: W3C standards no longer support 1.x, and PHP follows W3c std's |
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| 11:20.52 | resiak | majnoon: What are you debootstrapping from ? |
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| 11:21.01 | majnoon | DSL linux |
| 11:21.04 | antgel | Enforcer_JB: if you're sure you haven't fucked anything up, raise a bug and email debian-security |
| 11:21.05 | jm_ | error403: sure, /etc/X11/fs |
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| 11:21.15 | antgel | xhypno: so what? debian packages should not segfault |
| 11:21.15 | majnoon | it a deb derive |
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| 11:21.30 | resiak | majnoon: Out of interest, why not just backup /home and so on, and use d-i ? |
| 11:21.34 | FallOnMe | !based on debian |
| 11:21.34 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 11:21.42 | ellobo | guess... i'll just have to wait then... b'bye |
| 11:21.47 | xhypno | antgel: they shouldn't unless the mod_php package was built against the 2.x headers |
| 11:21.49 | jm_ | ukh: I don't use lftp.conf, as for vsftp, I have this at home so I'll try to remember to bring it with me tomorrow (I'll test it again today, just to be sure) |
| 11:21.53 | error403 | jm_, THANK YOU!!! |
| 11:21.54 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, I'd like to find out which php function causes the segfault. can I tell apache (or mod_php) to display a function call tree ? |
| 11:21.54 | jm_ | if I remember that is :) |
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| 11:22.12 | error403 | jm_, default-resolutions, right? |
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| 11:22.13 | majnoon | what d-i? |
| 11:22.18 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, I've done this with php APD once but this required some source changes and was more for profiling than debugging |
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| 11:22.20 | antgel | xyrouz: in which case the package is broken and should be fixed. k.i.s.s. |
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| 11:22.31 | antgel | Enforcer_JB: /j ##php |
| 11:22.40 | jm_ | error403: beats me, I never use xfs, except on HP-UX or Solaris when I need fonts from those systems |
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| 11:22.51 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB: set a error_log path in the config, then read the log, it will save all function errors from apache |
| 11:22.52 | ukh | jm_: then are you sure lftp makes use of SSL? it defaults to non-SSL/TLS if not forced |
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| 11:23.07 | resiak | !d-i majnoon |
| 11:23.08 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB: including stack traces |
| 11:23.08 | dpkg | majnoon, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 11:23.09 | error403 | jm_, well, i have it configured as default... you think i should just comment out that FontPath instead? |
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| 11:23.46 | jm_ | ukh: I have it set in .lftprc, I am pretty sure it used TLS because it was vissible in debug output, but like I said, I will test it again |
| 11:23.58 | jm_ | error403: I think you don't need xfs in font path at all |
| 11:23.59 | ukh | jm_: ok, thanks... |
| 11:24.05 | Enforcer_JB | xhypno, the error_log directive is not the apache error_log, right? because I have that and it just says "child pid XXX exit signal Segmentation fault (11)" |
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| 11:24.19 | majnoon | tried net-inst it no work |
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| 11:24.33 | jim | what do you mean |
| 11:24.36 | jim | !sicco |
| 11:24.37 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 11:24.40 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB: if it is saying that, it is PHP throwing the Fault, not apache |
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| 11:24.53 | Enforcer_JB | xhypno, ah. one step further. |
| 11:25.03 | Enforcer_JB | xhypno, soryy, should have mentioned that earlier |
| 11:25.07 | majnoon | it hangs up DURING install :) |
| 11:25.09 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB: if it was apache, there whould be an apache palloc stack trace with it, |
| 11:25.14 | xhypno | NP |
| 11:25.32 | error403 | jm_, well, just gonna reboot with the new config, see whether or not it worked... |
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| 11:25.42 | jm_ | error403: no! |
| 11:25.44 | Xik0 | hi there, i grab kernel 2.6.13 and compile for the first time for my machine. After that, everything works unless i have no sound. Can i recompile my kernel again? |
| 11:25.49 | error403 | jm_, ? |
| 11:25.57 | jm_ | error403: why are you rebooting? it's not Windows |
| 11:26.05 | error403 | jm_, i meant the x server |
| 11:26.07 | Fireball41 | haha |
| 11:26.07 | jm_ | Xik0: you have my permission! |
| 11:26.08 | error403 | hard-reboot |
| 11:26.08 | xhypno | Xik0: you can compile it to your hearts delight, "make clean" first |
| 11:26.10 | jm_ | error403: just restart it |
| 11:26.22 | antgel | Enforcer_JB: it is the errorlog directive. perhaps you can increase the debug level, but i really suggest you ask in ##php |
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| 11:26.45 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, I'll do so - thanks |
| 11:26.46 | error403 | then again, jm_, i am trying to see what the behaviour on boot is, not after an x restart... |
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| 11:26.53 | error403 | jm_, no improvement... |
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| 11:26.54 | error403 | >.< |
| 11:27.01 | xhypno | Enforcer_JB: Yeah, I am sure there is a PHP directive in php.ini that will dump a log, #php would know |
| 11:27.03 | jm_ | error403: should be the same - what exactly is your problem then? |
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| 11:27.19 | error403 | jm_, just, when i boot up, its using 100dpi fonts |
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| 11:27.31 | error403 | when i restart x a couple of times, it uses 75dpi |
| 11:27.47 | xhypno | error403: Are you using framebuffer by any chance? |
| 11:27.49 | Fireball41 | hmm |
| 11:27.55 | error403 | xhypno, yeah, why> |
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| 11:28.23 | jm_ | error403: did you actually remove xfs from font path? |
| 11:28.30 | Xik0 | xhypno, but i'm running right know ther kernel 2.6.13, is any problem i recompile where? Or i must to change to the 2.6.8 and recompile there? |
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| 11:28.51 | [or | Enforcer_JB, you can do it in local .htaccess even |
| 11:28.52 | xhypno | error403: in remote occassions, I have seen framebuffer mess up fonts. Boot with out framebuffer and see what x does with the straight graphics driver |
| 11:28.56 | error403 | jm_, i just removed the unix:7100 or whatever it was, fromt he font paths... |
| 11:28.58 | ricky_clarkson | X just switched to US mode (UK is normal). |
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| 11:29.05 | jm_ | error403: does xset q agree? |
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| 11:29.22 | ricky_clarkson | I ran loadkeys uk, and it outputs loads of times: "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console". |
| 11:29.27 | [or | php_value log_errors on |
| 11:29.27 | [or | php_value error_log /home/path/to/php_error.log |
| 11:29.33 | xhypno | Xik0: a "make clean" removes the binaries in the src dir, run it then compile the same way you did before. |
| 11:29.34 | ricky_clarkson | The missing apostrophe was missing in the original. ;) |
| 11:29.35 | jm_ | ricky_clarkson: loadkeys is for console |
| 11:29.39 | resiak | ricky_clarkson: loadkeys is for the ... |
| 11:29.42 | ricky_clarkson | Duh. |
| 11:29.42 | [or | restart apache for it to take effect |
| 11:29.49 | ricky_clarkson | What should I use for teh X? |
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| 11:30.07 | error403 | jm_, xset q as a command on its own, no parameters? |
| 11:30.08 | jm_ | try xkbsel |
| 11:30.14 | jm_ | error403: right, in X |
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| 11:30.44 | Enforcer_JB | [or, will try, thanks |
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| 11:30.51 | jm_ | or setxkbmap |
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| 11:31.44 | ricky_clarkson | xkbsel takes ages to install.. |
| 11:31.51 | error403 | jm_, for FontPath: it has 75dpi listed before 100dpi both times |
| 11:32.11 | jm_ | error403: right, but your apps still have big fonts? |
| 11:32.21 | error403 | jm_, yeah |
| 11:32.23 | xhypno | error403: try rebooting with fb off and see what happens. |
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| 11:32.29 | ricky_clarkson | = 11:09:58 < Stork> i'll pm you |
| 11:32.31 | ricky_clarkson | Oops. |
| 11:32.32 | error403 | xhypno, how do i do that? |
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| 11:32.36 | ricky_clarkson | xbksel uk |
| 11:32.40 | jm_ | error403: is your DPI setting OK? |
| 11:32.42 | ricky_clarkson | map uk not found in the database |
| 11:32.49 | error403 | jm_, what you mean? |
| 11:32.53 | jm_ | try xfree86(uk) |
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| 11:33.00 | jm_ | error403: xdpyinfo will show it |
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| 11:33.02 | xhypno | error403: mod grub or lilo to not use vesafb on boot |
| 11:33.07 | ricky_clarkson | jm_: xfree86(uk) for me? |
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| 11:33.22 | jm_ | ricky_clarkson: yup |
| 11:33.47 | ricky_clarkson | XKB extension not present on :1.0 |
| 11:33.52 | jm_ | doh ;) |
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| 11:34.19 | jm_ | xpyinfo|grep XKEYBOARD - I think that shows presence of xkb extension |
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| 11:34.26 | error403 | jm_, 'resoulution: 95x96 dots per inch' <-- that it? |
| 11:34.29 | jm_ | error403: yes |
| 11:34.33 | ricky_clarkson | I should note that I'm using tightvncserver as an X display. |
| 11:34.42 | jm_ | ahh that's different |
| 11:34.49 | ricky_clarkson | xpyinfo: command not found. |
| 11:34.52 | error403 | jm_, so whats going wrong here? |
| 11:34.52 | Alver | Hello... is it normal that sarge hasn't got any updates in a few weeks, or should I check my setup? |
| 11:34.52 | Xik0 | i'm running menuconfig right know, where i can active drivers for my sound card AC'97 |
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| 11:35.00 | jm_ | ricky_clarkson: sorry xdpyinfo |
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| 11:35.07 | jm_ | error403: nothing? :) |
| 11:35.13 | ricky_clarkson | No output. |
| 11:35.13 | error403 | lol |
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| 11:35.24 | error403 | jm_, do you have any other ideas? |
| 11:35.27 | error403 | :P |
| 11:35.37 | jm_ | ricky_clarkson: no extension, maybe you could dump it and import it using xmodmap |
| 11:35.50 | jm_ | error403: is this the right DPI for your display? |
| 11:35.52 | Eclipser | what was the command to see how long a command takes to execute? |
| 11:35.56 | ricky_clarkson | jm_: I think I'm more likely to restart tightvncserver. |
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| 11:36.00 | error403 | jm_, i dont know... |
| 11:36.01 | Eclipser | ah, time.. |
| 11:36.02 | jm_ | Eclipser: time |
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| 11:36.09 | jm_ | error403: calculate it? |
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| 11:36.57 | jm_ | error403: anyway, font size is an application issue, it's solved trivially for GTK apps |
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| 11:37.10 | xhypno | Later all, I will be back. |
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| 11:39.44 | [or | I miss the satisfying feel you get slotting in a floppy disk, CD's just aren't the same |
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| 11:40.14 | ludde | how do i install postfix in debian |
| 11:40.20 | [or | http://homepage.mac.com/danielturek/PhotoAlbum50.html |
| 11:40.25 | ricky_clarkson | [or: Try a zip disk. |
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| 11:40.28 | antgel | ludde: the same way you install anything |
| 11:40.29 | [or | ludde, sendmail.org |
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| 11:40.38 | ricky_clarkson | Oh, that reminds me. |
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| 11:40.45 | ludde | antgel: how do i install anything? |
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| 11:40.53 | ricky_clarkson | I spotted an unusual drive saying 2GB, and Iomega, seems to take removable media. |
| 11:40.57 | ricky_clarkson | Would that be a Jaz drive? |
| 11:40.57 | antgel | ludde: you read the manual |
| 11:41.02 | antgel | !tell ludde about reference |
| 11:41.03 | ricky_clarkson | Should it take zip disks? |
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| 11:41.23 | antgel | !tell ludde about apt howto |
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| 11:41.39 | ludde | apt-get install postfix |
| 11:41.52 | ludde | how does postfix compare to exim |
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| 11:42.04 | antgel | ludde: are you having a laugh? |
| 11:42.12 | antgel | !tell ludde about compare |
| 11:42.17 | antgel | !tell ludde about polls |
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| 11:42.39 | ludde | uh? |
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| 11:44.05 | Guerin | ludde: they're both mail servers |
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| 11:44.17 | Guerin | ludde: if you need to ask which one is better, either will be fine for you |
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| 11:44.52 | ludde | it seems like i already got exim, is there any point in installing postfix then? |
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| 11:44.58 | Guerin | ludde: nope |
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| 11:46.06 | sussudio | http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9710/waterweasel0pt.jpg :-| |
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| 11:47.36 | ludde | Guerin: can i use exim to receive incoming email |
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| 11:48.51 | syntaxx | how can i check the error at boot? |
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| 11:49.13 | chealer | syntaxx: which error? |
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| 11:49.38 | syntaxx | chealer: im reading about blacklist now.. but i forgot the name of the modules error that bein loaded at boot time |
| 11:49.46 | jm_ | syntaxx: bootlogd |
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| 11:49.58 | FromTO | is there a possible way that I can use the three times authenticating passwd and if it fails the user will be restricted from login in for 24 hrs. I am doing this because some users will be connecting through putty from a windows box |
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| 11:50.24 | syntaxx | jm_: ill type that at console? |
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| 11:50.39 | jm_ | syntaxx: no, man bootlogd, the enable it |
| 11:50.51 | jm_ | then* |
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| 11:52.01 | jm_ | FromTO: pam_tally module |
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| 11:53.18 | FromTO | jm_ thanks I will look into that |
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| 11:53.26 | chealer | syntaxx: you can possibly find the error in dmesg too |
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| 11:54.26 | syntaxx | chealer: hw_random: RNG not detected.. its not that what i being saw.. it says hw_random fatal error /lib/kernel etc etc |
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| 11:55.35 | KadY | hi all |
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| 11:56.27 | chealer | syntaxx: perhaps try modprobe hw_random |
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| 11:56.38 | tralala | ludde: yes, this is what an mta does |
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| 11:56.45 | KadY | i need to activate mouse scroll.... ho can i do it?? i try with dpkg-reconfigure xserver but don't work |
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| 11:57.36 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, did you test your IMP with the updated php packages yet? |
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| 11:58.14 | syntaxx | chealer: i think it is.. FATAL: Error inserting hw_random (/lib/modules/2.6.8.2-386/kernel/drivers/char/hw_random): No such device. ill put hw_random in blaclist? skip hw_random right? |
| 11:58.22 | jm_ | !drxx KadY |
| 11:58.23 | dpkg | KadY: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 11:58.44 | [or | heh |
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| 11:59.30 | chealer | syntaxx: if you want |
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| 12:01.04 | FromTO | jm_: is pam_tally available on any debian source.list |
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| 12:01.27 | jm_ | FromTO: it's part of default installation |
| 12:01.30 | ludde | exim is preinstalled with my debian, but i can't figure out how to set it up to route mail, right now i just get "mailing to remote domains not supported" |
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| 12:02.08 | wols | ludde: dpkg-reconfigure it and select it as "internet domain" or somesuch |
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| 12:02.21 | ludde | ah |
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| 12:02.38 | FromTO | jm_ do you know of any how to docs |
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| 12:02.43 | jm_ | or use eximconfig if it's exim3 |
| 12:02.48 | ludde | "dpkg-reconfigure exim4" returns without saying a word |
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| 12:03.01 | jm_ | FromTO: libpam-doc |
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| 12:03.08 | jm_ | yes, because that's not the command to be used |
| 12:03.14 | jm_ | or rather the package name is wrong |
| 12:03.16 | greycat | you want to reconfigure exim4-config |
| 12:03.23 | ludde | oaky |
| 12:03.26 | greycat | !maint exim4-config |
| 12:03.29 | dpkg | exim4-config: Exim4 Maintainers <pkg-exim4-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
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| 12:03.40 | greycat | !blame the anonymous cowardly exim4 maintainers |
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| 12:04.10 | wols | greycat: I do something better. I use postfix :) |
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| 12:04.41 | streuner | dpkg, kick wols |
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| 12:05.11 | Enforcer_JB | antgel, I think I found it: in IMP 4.0.2 there is an infinite loop in building the IMAP folder tree |
| 12:05.22 | streuner | !start a MTA war |
| 12:05.23 | dpkg | courier is a spam magnet |
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| 12:05.52 | wols | streuner: hey that hurt. I have a very sensitive ass |
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| 12:06.30 | tralala | this would hurt even more than |
| 12:06.33 | tralala | !fuck wols |
| 12:06.36 | FlangeR | Can anyone pls help me setting up my usb-palm. I tried the guides and howto's but can't seem to make a peep out of it. Any help or advice would be welcome. |
| 12:06.38 | tralala | :) |
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| 12:06.56 | wols | dpkg: I don't care as long as you're female and look hawt |
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| 12:07.16 | EagleCros | !female |
| 12:07.17 | tralala | dpkg: gender? |
| 12:07.17 | dpkg | I'm pregnant |
| 12:07.17 | skate | you'd let a chick use a dildo on you? |
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| 12:07.28 | greycat | skate: why not? |
| 12:07.34 | EagleCros | well, then it's actually a SHE! |
| 12:07.35 | skate | dunno man |
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| 12:07.41 | jeffrin | hey do we have pregnant debian users |
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| 12:07.46 | greycat | probably. |
| 12:07.47 | skate | i like the occasional anal-tickle while getting head |
| 12:07.53 | skate | but no fricken way is a chick getting a dildo near my ass |
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| 12:07.58 | error403 | jm_, i think i figured out my problem... is it possible that the font server is starting AFTER the x server, hence it doesnt get it right first time? |
| 12:08.18 | jm_ | error403: that shouldn't have any effect if you removed it from font path |
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| 12:08.25 | jeffrin | dpkg : great to know that you are female , we do not have much females in debian |
| 12:08.25 | dpkg | jeffrin: okay |
| 12:08.34 | antgel | !bugs 325777 |
| 12:08.36 | error403 | jm_, when i remove it from my font path, it stays large |
| 12:08.38 | dpkg | #325777:N[debian-reference] exim documentation is incorrect Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:33:24 UTC.</div><h3></h3><div class="msgreceived"><p>View this report as an <a href="bugreport.cgi?bug=325777 |
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| 12:08.43 | streuner | dpkg, listauth jeffrin |
| 12:08.44 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'jeffrin' (1): great to know that you. |
| 12:08.50 | error403 | jm_, if i leave it there, it goes small after the first restart of X |
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| 12:09.04 | streuner | jeffrin: you already created a factoid |
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| 12:09.29 | jeffrin | what is factoid |
| 12:09.49 | EagleCros | !dpkg |
| 12:09.49 | dpkg | i heard dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. a blootbot on #debian, or a bloodbot on #crack, or a smart infobot, or voltagex's friend |
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| 12:09.50 | streuner | jeffrin: bot (ravenbird, apt, dpkg) is are foo (factoid) |
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| 12:10.12 | streuner | jeffrin: infos in a bot |
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| 12:10.45 | streuner | dpkg, forget great to know that you |
| 12:10.45 | dpkg | streuner: i forgot great to know that you |
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| 12:10.54 | jm_ | error403: having 75dpi fonts in font path before 100dpi ones usually works, other than that there are gtkrc files and such |
| 12:11.11 | error403 | jm_, im using KDE... |
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| 12:11.15 | SerajewelKS | kubuntu is freakin' sexy... |
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| 12:11.32 | jm_ | error403: check DPI setting in control center |
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| 12:11.34 | error403 | SerajewelKS, only because of the KDE 3.4.2 |
| 12:11.43 | EagleCros | streuner: so you mean that if we were to have typed !great to know you , dpkg would have responded "female, we do not have much females in debian"? |
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| 12:11.43 | SerajewelKS | error403, yes |
| 12:11.49 | SerajewelKS | error403, still, they have 3.4 =P |
| 12:11.52 | jeffrin | is dpkg a robot |
| 12:11.57 | greycat | !bot |
| 12:11.57 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 12:12.09 | antgel | dpkg: what are you |
| 12:12.09 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 12:12.22 | EagleCros | !blootbot |
| 12:12.22 | dpkg | i guess blootbot is a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
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| 12:12.24 | SerajewelKS | error403, nevermind.. first thing kdestop segfaults |
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| 12:12.34 | medvind | hello. i get this error when i try to mount a win98 share: tree connect failed: ERRSRV - ERRinvnetname (Invalid network name in tree connect.).. what can i do? |
| 12:12.40 | medvind | (using either mount -t smbfs or smbmount) |
| 12:12.41 | antgel | EagleCros: you can msg the bot as well. /msg dpkg blootbot |
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| 12:12.50 | EagleCros | antgel: ok, sorry |
| 12:13.01 | greycat | dpkg, literal great to know that |
| 12:13.07 | antgel | EagleCros: not a problem unless you do it all the time |
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| 12:13.14 | tralala | greycat: it's been removed |
| 12:13.14 | greycat | dpkg, literal great to know that you |
| 12:13.17 | greycat | ah. |
| 12:13.17 | error403 | SerajewelKS, unlucky.... i used to use Kubuntu, but i found some of their workarounds for specific issues led the entire distro being a little more quirky than necessary |
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| 12:13.42 | streuner | EgaleCros: that would be: 'dpkg, great to know you is <reply> we do not have much females in debian?' |
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| 12:14.02 | EagleCros | mmmmmmmm ok |
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| 12:14.09 | streuner | EagleCros: ^^^, so no. |
| 12:14.26 | devmodem | error403: i have adapted to ubuntu |
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| 12:14.51 | error403 | jm_, where in the control center is the DPI setting? |
| 12:14.53 | streuner | EagleCros: http://www.infobot.org/guide-0.43.x.html |
| 12:14.59 | SerajewelKS | hah.. the new KDE 3.4 busy cursor is ripped right from OS X |
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| 12:15.13 | EagleCros | I think I better get my eyes on these papers instead... |
| 12:15.14 | jm_ | error403: I have no clue, the only times I have used KDE was in Knoppix twice for about 2 minutes |
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| 12:15.41 | error403 | jm_, fair enough |
| 12:15.54 | error403 | jm_, methinks im gonna install a couple more desktops... |
| 12:16.15 | hyperstream | ahh, does anyone know if there is a way to run dreamweaver on debian... im guessing not but yeah |
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| 12:16.21 | hyperstream | g/f just wanted to know |
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| 12:16.30 | error403 | hyperstream, crossover office, or wine? |
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| 12:17.12 | streuner | Is the banlist already full? |
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| 12:17.33 | hyperstream | ooo wine does work with it. thats good to know |
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| 12:17.36 | hyperstream | thanks error403 |
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| 12:17.43 | greycat | I doubt it's full -- 264 isn't a very round number. |
| 12:17.56 | streuner | i thought 200 is the limit? |
| 12:18.04 | error403 | hyperstream, no probs - was just stabbing in the dark anyway - dont give up before checking Wine or Crossover office... |
| 12:18.08 | greycat | apparently not :) |
| 12:18.10 | streuner | s/is/was/ |
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| 12:19.55 | streuner | too bad 'nospambots.pl' doesn't work for X-Chat 1.8.9 |
| 12:19.56 | SerajewelKS | i got Rollercoaster Tycoon to run through wine. slow as hell, but still... |
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| 12:20.28 | EagleCros | I had diablo 2 running under wine. Then I removed and reinstalled it,and it won't work any more :( |
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| 12:20.46 | greycat | I ran solitaire *and* minesweeper in wine! |
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| 12:21.09 | EagleCros | whereas running means battle.net gaming inclusive |
| 12:21.13 | greycat | couldn't get heroes 3 complete or galactic civilizations to work though. |
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| 12:21.37 | syntaxx | ragnarok online runs thru wine? |
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| 12:24.03 | [or | IrfanView works, that's the main thing |
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| 12:24.26 | KadY | how can I update kernel version via apt?? |
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| 12:24.53 | greycat | KadY: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 12:24.56 | chealer | KadY: install a new kernel, reboot, boot it |
| 12:24.58 | greycat | KadY: pick one, and install it |
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| 12:25.05 | streuner | How can i see in irssi which perl scripts are loaded? |
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| 12:25.30 | ludde | i'm trying to install bugzilla and I get this error: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user: 'bugzilla@localhost' to database 'bugzilla' at ./checksetup.pl line 1711.......... but "mysql -u bugzilla -p bugzilla" works |
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| 12:26.00 | chealer | KadY: if you're talking about security updates for the same upstream kernel version, you can upgrade the kernel package |
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| 12:26.44 | KadY | I have 2.6.8 and i want to upgrade to last kernel version |
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| 12:27.04 | chealer | KadY: the last kernel version isn't packaged for debian |
| 12:27.13 | greycat | KadY: sarge has nothing newer than 2.6.8 (patched) |
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| 12:27.26 | KadY | and it's safe? |
| 12:27.31 | greycat | KadY: yes, it gets security fixes |
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| 12:28.22 | jethro | streuner: type /script |
| 12:28.32 | streuner | jethro: thanks |
| 12:28.36 | KadY | ok, thanks :) |
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| 12:31.37 | streuner | well, all new connectors are redirect to #debian-overflow atm... |
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| 12:31.52 | streuner | fscking spambots... |
| 12:31.53 | takatumi | streuner: except the bots. :) |
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| 12:33.59 | jethro | +r then chan |
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| 12:34.05 | SerajewelKS | woot |
| 12:34.07 | metaperl | is anyone using an all-in-one printer under Linux? I want to get one today |
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| 12:34.09 | jethro | s/then/the/ |
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| 12:34.18 | greycat | uh.... how do I put the +J 25,10 back? |
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| 12:34.22 | greycat | irssi is not letting me do it. |
| 12:34.23 | metaperl | i want a 4-in-1 with scan, print, copy, fax |
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| 12:34.24 | chealer | metaperl: all-in-one? |
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| 12:34.32 | jm_ | greycat: /quote mode doesn't work? |
| 12:34.32 | SerajewelKS | greycat, /quote ? |
| 12:34.33 | SimonRaven | katrina remnants hist us finally |
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| 12:35.10 | zkchong | hello, my laptop need manually power off when I want shut it down in debian. May I know is there any method I can let it auto shutdown? |
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| 12:35.24 | jm_ | zkchong: APM/ACPI support in kernel |
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| 12:36.06 | chealer | how can I get asked again the question at install about redirecting root's mail? |
| 12:36.09 | zkchong | jm, may I know where I can I adjust it? |
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| 12:36.15 | greycat | chealer: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
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| 12:36.22 | jm_ | zkchong: try loading the modules that your kernel provides |
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| 12:36.34 | docelic | chealer, just type desired username in /etc/aliases under root: |
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| 12:36.45 | SimonRaven | docelic: hi |
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| 12:36.50 | SimonRaven | long time no see |
| 12:36.55 | tralala | zkchong: modprobe apm (or acpi) |
| 12:37.08 | trym | which config file does libsasl2 use be default ? |
| 12:37.10 | docelic | SimonRaven, hey, yea :) I stopped visiting #debian |
| 12:37.11 | chealer | greycat: hum, it didn't ask me |
| 12:37.13 | SimonRaven | man, all these old-timers coming back. amazing |
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| 12:37.21 | SimonRaven | :) |
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| 12:37.46 | greycat | docelic: does exim{,4} need him to run newaliases? |
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| 12:37.59 | SimonRaven | no |
| 12:38.02 | docelic | greycat, nope, exim doesnt need newaliases |
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| 12:38.10 | andyetitmoves | hi! I wanted to change the command line arguments of smbd started from /etc/init.d/samba to use schedtool's batch priority. Is it possible to do this without changing /etc/init.d/samba (doesn't seem to be a clean solution to me) through some config file ? |
| 12:38.11 | SimonRaven | newaliases is a noop |
| 12:38.18 | SimonRaven | (for exim) |
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| 12:38.26 | docelic | greycat, btw long time no see you too :) |
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| 12:38.38 | greycat | andyetitmoves: /etc/init.d/samba *is* a config file, and it will be preserved upon a package upgrade. |
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| 12:39.21 | greycat | (which can have negative impact, too, if you customized it and the new one adds new functionality) |
| 12:39.24 | zkchong | tralala, i got some error when executing that cmd. |
| 12:39.34 | SimonRaven | andyetitmoves: you could set up a /etc/default/samba file and source that from the init script, and stick in variables from that file |
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| 12:39.50 | tralala | zkchong: some error is not as descriptive as it might seem |
| 12:39.57 | greycat | SimonRaven: no win over just editing init.d/samba directly, since he's still customizing the init.d script |
| 12:40.03 | jm_ | SimonRaven: it already does that, but has no support for daemon options |
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| 12:40.14 | zkchong | tralala, should I paste the error msg here? |
| 12:40.20 | SimonRaven | yeh i know. that's the drawback. but then he can submit it as a patch |
| 12:40.25 | greycat | jm_: so he should write a patch and wishlist-bugreport it |
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| 12:40.25 | SimonRaven | jm_: oh ok |
| 12:40.30 | tralala | zkchong: no, in #flood |
| 12:40.32 | jm_ | yup, would be useful for others |
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| 12:40.36 | andyetitmoves | will do that :) |
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| 12:41.19 | clem_yeats | hi, is it possible to install kde3.4.2 from a fresh debian install (sarge) ? |
| 12:41.21 | streuner | they (spambots) just change there nicks, so nospambots.pl has already no effect at all |
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| 12:41.37 | chealer | clem_yeats: ask #debian-kde |
| 12:41.47 | SimonRaven | most still keep the same one. only a few change it |
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| 12:41.50 | jm_ | streuner: should be trivial to adapt the script to handle that |
| 12:41.54 | SimonRaven | sure |
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| 12:42.24 | streuner | jm_: can you take a look at it and change it? |
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| 12:42.33 | Penfold | does preseed/url work from a sarge netboot CD? I'm trying linux26 preseed/url=http://somewhere/on/my/lan, and it appears not to be trying to pick it up, or complain t can't find it |
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| 12:42.43 | streuner | !nospambots |
| 12:42.43 | dpkg | well, nospambot is http://p12n.org/tmp/nospambot.pl - put that in ~/.irssi/scripts and do /run nospambot to ignore join and quit messages of users who stay online for 2 seconds or less, or change timeout to a higher number to ignore bots who evade the k-line for more than 2 seconds |
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| 12:43.20 | trym | does anyone know which config file does libsasl2 use by default ? |
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| 12:43.31 | greycat | trym: apparently not. |
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| 12:43.58 | RichiH | trym: list the files in the package and look for anything in /etc? |
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| 12:44.26 | greycat | or strace whatever app uses that lib, and dump out every file it opens |
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| 12:44.35 | greycat | (or stats) |
| 12:44.37 | jm_ | streuner: you have to add a hook for nick change and then change it in joins hashes |
| 12:44.39 | trym | RichiH.. good idea.. how do I do it ? |
| 12:44.56 | RichiH | trym: dpkg -L or packages.debian.org |
| 12:44.56 | streuner | jm_: i have no idea about perl at all... |
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| 12:45.19 | trym | RichiH: it does not contain any config files |
| 12:45.22 | SimonRaven | /usr/lib/sasl2/name_of_daemon |
| 12:45.28 | jethro | streuner: then it's right about time you learn perl :) |
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| 12:45.37 | streuner | jethro: :-P |
| 12:45.39 | Penfold | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.50 | SimonRaven | uh, not quite... usually it's the daemon's config file name, like saslauthd.conf, slapd.conf, etc. |
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| 12:46.05 | greycat | !find default/sasl |
| 12:46.12 | SimonRaven | so say, /usr/lib/sasl2/saslauthd.conf |
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| 12:46.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'default/sasl' (1): (/etc/default/saslauthd) in utils/sasl2-bin. |
| 12:46.13 | chealer | is $ mail root the right way to...mail root? |
| 12:46.17 | greycat | !win Penfold |
| 12:46.19 | dpkg | Congratulations, Penfold! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 12:46.29 | greycat | chealer: echo hi root | mail root |
| 12:46.44 | Penfold | :) |
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| 12:47.02 | Penfold | what I'd *like to win is an answer to my preseed question :) |
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| 12:47.17 | SimonRaven | #debian-boot |
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| 12:47.33 | Penfold | good answer :) thanks/ |
| 12:47.34 | greycat | Penfold: never heard of such a thing. ever. |
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| 12:47.54 | chealer | greycat: thanks for confirming something's broken... :-P |
| 12:47.56 | zkchong | hello, anyone can tell me why my laptop won't auto power off when it shutdown? |
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| 12:48.05 | SimonRaven | greycat: debconf pre-seeding. one of the attributes is being able to fetch data from a remote source |
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| 12:48.25 | Penfold | for lazy folk who don't want to sit and watch it install |
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| 12:48.31 | SimonRaven | "pre-answers" certain questions |
| 12:48.31 | greycat | and *obviously* debconf reads kernel parameters. of course. |
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| 12:48.58 | SimonRaven | digby works off that trait to install boxen in like 15 minutes |
| 12:48.59 | greycat | here I was trying to figure out which kernel driver had HTTP client support. |
| 12:49.04 | Penfold | greycat: ahhhhhhah :) |
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| 12:49.24 | Penfold | http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstallerPreseed and links :) |
| 12:49.31 | Penfold | read, be wiser. |
| 12:49.37 | SimonRaven | thanks |
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| 12:49.44 | Penfold | and help me figure out my problem :) |
| 12:49.52 | Penfold | which is at the 'This Should Work' stage of not working :) |
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| 12:50.18 | docelic | Penfold, just the url I was planing to search for :) |
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| 12:52.34 | greycat | Penfold: *definitely* a #debian-boot question. |
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| 12:53.02 | Penfold | greeted on #debian-boot with deafening silence. |
| 12:53.08 | SimonRaven | ah cool, digby's there |
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| 12:53.12 | greycat | patience. |
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| 12:53.23 | docelic | Penfold, noone's guaranteeing a [timely] response |
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| 12:53.44 | zkchong | hello, anyone can tell me why my laptop won't auto power off when it shutdown? |
| 12:53.44 | greycat | specialized channels tend to have a longer delay between Q and A |
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| 12:53.52 | Penfold | fortunatelt, neither am I to my boss. |
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| 12:53.59 | greycat | 08:35 jm_> zkchong: APM/ACPI support in kernel |
| 12:54.07 | greycat | 08:36 tralala> zkchong: modprobe apm (or acpi) |
| 12:54.24 | vekpos | hello! how can i find out, which debian i am using? |
| 12:54.29 | greycat | !version |
| 12:54.29 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:55.02 | zkchong | greycat, May i know where I can set it? I am quite new in debian so I not sure where to set it. |
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| 12:55.09 | vekpos | ok |
| 12:55.16 | SimonRaven | @version |
| 12:55.19 | greycat | zkchong: if one of the modprobes succeeds and you want to make it permanent, add a line to /etc/modules |
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| 12:55.56 | SimonRaven | @version is <reply>Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:55.58 | RichiH | enforcable by wedgies |
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| 12:56.09 | vekpos | ok |
| 12:56.15 | SimonRaven | hehe |
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| 12:56.23 | streuner | RichiH: any idea what we can do against those spambots? |
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| 12:56.33 | RichiH | streuner: set yourself +E |
| 12:56.45 | RichiH | streuner: we are working on stuff, but there is no easy fix |
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| 12:56.53 | zkchong | gretcat, I got error while executing both the ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326 |
| 12:56.54 | zkchong | ACPI: Interpreter disabled. |
| 12:56.54 | greycat | RichiH: any idea what we can do to prevent them join-flooding #debian and preventing legitimate users from getting in? |
| 12:56.54 | jethro | only patience will do it |
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| 12:56.56 | RichiH | we kline as fast as we can be sure they are bots |
| 12:57.07 | greycat | RichiH: ok. |
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| 12:57.14 | RichiH | greycat: "and preventing legitimate users from getting in?" |
| 12:57.24 | *** part/#debian asker_20 (n=orenbaya@85.96.151.99) |
| 12:57.26 | streuner | RichiH: use nospambots and filter them |
| 12:57.31 | greycat | 08:31 streuner> well, all new connectors are redirect to #debian-overflow atm... |
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| 12:57.40 | SimonRaven | sussudio: free keys? |
| 12:57.42 | zkchong | greycat, the modprobe acpi and apm, both give me error msg. |
| 12:57.45 | RichiH | streuner: and kline someone who cycles for $reason? |
| 12:57.46 | sussudio | SimonRaven: yes, free. |
| 12:57.48 | RichiH | streuner: i think not |
| 12:57.49 | greycat | RichiH: I turned off +J for a couple minutes. They poured in by the hundred. |
| 12:57.52 | sussudio | SimonRaven: for their 10 year anniversary. |
| 12:58.00 | RichiH | greycat: there is +r |
| 12:58.01 | streuner | RichiH: if they do that twice yes |
| 12:58.02 | SimonRaven | sussudio: key as in reggies key? |
| 12:58.07 | greycat | RichiH: we've been trying to avoid that |
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| 12:58.08 | sussudio | SimonRaven: yup |
| 12:58.09 | RichiH | greycat: which can redirect to another channel |
| 12:58.14 | zkchong | debian:/home/zkchong# modprobe acpi |
| 12:58.14 | zkchong | modprobe: Can't locate module acpi |
| 12:58.15 | SimonRaven | ah |
| 12:58.19 | tralala | yes! yes! yes! |
| 12:58.29 | jethro | opera is already 10yo ? time passes too quickly |
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| 12:58.30 | sussudio | you enter an email and it gives you a list of regkeys for all opera versions |
| 12:58.33 | streuner | RichiH: plus changhing their nicks when they join |
| 12:58.34 | RichiH | greycat: in the medium term, it will default to unregged users not being able to send to regged users |
| 12:58.34 | greycat | RichiH: we have a *very* low lowest-common-denominator here, as I'm sure you've seen. |
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| 12:58.48 | antgel | more like they did it as nobody uses their browser anymore |
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| 12:58.54 | RichiH | greycat: yes, which i personally think of as good |
| 12:59.01 | stew | zkchong: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 12:59.16 | RichiH | greycat: downside of opennessis, it let's those asshat bots join, too :/ |
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| 12:59.26 | SimonRaven | they run debian apache2 on their web server |
| 12:59.27 | greycat | RichiH: yeah. |
| 12:59.28 | clem_yeats | stew : it gives you the version number of your linux kernel |
| 12:59.31 | SimonRaven | (opera.com) |
| 12:59.36 | zkchong | stew, it said 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 12:59.44 | greycat | clem_yeats: uh, he knows that... |
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| 12:59.56 | *** part/#debian incubii (n=incubii@61.68.45.64) |
| 12:59.56 | clem_yeats | oh sorry.. I missed the beginning of the conversation :) |
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| 13:00.01 | sussudio | it's somewhat more responsive today, as opposed to yesterday, when someone posted the free keys thing on slashdot |
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| 13:00.11 | [or | laptop, say hello to the X-Window system! |
| 13:00.16 | [or | mission accomplished |
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| 13:00.23 | greycat | did X say hello back? |
| 13:00.24 | antgel | wow, slashdot is stil going |
| 13:00.30 | *** part/#debian iuLoooouo (n=lsari@82.145.230.16) |
| 13:00.37 | RichiH | greycat: for example, LoRez klined 12 bots in the last three minutes |
| 13:00.38 | *** join/#debian DR_DEMIR^^ (n=iskorpit@85.96.15.97) |
| 13:00.40 | yac | Hi. I'd like to experiment with kernel compilation... How can I run 'make xconfig/gconfig/menuconfig/config' with defaults like they are in current(Debian package) kernel ? |
| 13:00.40 | RichiH | make that 13 |
| 13:00.40 | streuner | RichiH: 85.10?.*.* was banned here before... |
| 13:00.42 | stew | zkchong: you may need to move to a 2.6 kernel for acpi |
| 13:00.42 | *** part/#debian DR_DEMIR^^ (n=iskorpit@85.96.15.97) |
| 13:00.45 | RichiH | streuner: heh |
| 13:00.48 | greycat | !lorez++ |
| 13:00.49 | [or | thanks for the help guys, in the end I threw Slackware on this baby. all is well |
| 13:00.55 | [or | l*rz.. |
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| 13:00.59 | greycat | streuner: but I had to remove it |
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| 13:01.03 | zkchong | stew, so how can I upgrade my debian. |
| 13:01.10 | streuner | greycat: oh, why? |
| 13:01.11 | zkchong | stew, how to update my kernel? |
| 13:01.14 | greycat | zkchong: you're already running a sarge kernel |
| 13:01.16 | stew | zkchong: what cpu do you have? |
| 13:01.22 | plb | yac: copy the config over to the kernel directory you want to compile? |
| 13:01.23 | greycat | streuner: it blocked a legitimate user |
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| 13:01.31 | zkchong | stew, i using amd semprom M |
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| 13:01.48 | greycat | apparently there is one person who isn't a spambot in the whole country of turkey |
| 13:01.48 | streuner | greycat: why s(he) don't use a cloak? |
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| 13:02.03 | yac | plb: heh, yep, that's it:) |
| 13:02.03 | greycat | streuner: he *is* cloaked. And he *couldn't* get in through the IP ban. |
| 13:02.06 | zkchong | and, I using stable version of debian, 3.1 . So, I still need to upgrade my kernel? |
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| 13:02.25 | greycat | streuner: and he's here now: defcon8 |
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| 13:02.55 | pwk | got a problem here, I have a remote debian server, with some preinstalled 2.6.10 kernel running that apparently needs no initrd, and that doesn't come with iptables/nat support, which I need. So what I did was to apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp, then I changed the lilo.conf to have section for /vmlinuz and one for /vmlinuz.old, and the /vmlinuz section got a line like: initrd=/initrd.img after a reboot the pc didn't boot. I aske |
| 13:02.55 | pwk | d the guy hosting the server to boot vmlinuz.old, which worked. Any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 13:02.57 | drac | zkchong: Stable also has 2.6.8, so.. apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
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| 13:03.17 | drac | zkchong: Pick one, apt-get install it, boot. |
| 13:03.18 | stew | zkchong: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 13:03.23 | greycat | zkchong: but keep the 2.4.x kernel in case the 2.6.x one blows up in a nasty way. |
| 13:03.34 | greycat | zkchong: use whichever of the two works better on your hardware |
| 13:03.50 | Anthro | What does mode +E mean? |
| 13:03.50 | smo_ | how can i verify by ssh xorg is running on dislay:0 or not??? |
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| 13:04.04 | chealer | !tell Anthro about mode e |
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| 13:04.07 | greycat | Anthro: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 13:04.17 | Anthro | chealer: Thanks. |
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| 13:04.32 | Anthro | greycat: Also thanks. |
| 13:04.39 | greycat | dpkg, mode e =~ s,#spambots,#spambots or http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml, |
| 13:04.40 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
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| 13:05.29 | chealer | I'm having issues with mail and trying to send mail from root to my user for testing. will exim4's "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail" allow me to do that? |
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| 13:05.40 | docelic | chealer, no |
| 13:05.45 | plb | smo_: ps -aux | grep X ? |
| 13:05.46 | greycat | chealer: read "no local mail" slowly. |
| 13:05.47 | plb | dunno |
| 13:05.53 | greycat | chealer: do you see the first word? |
| 13:05.53 | smo_ | i ll try |
| 13:06.04 | zkchong | let say using kernel 2.6.x blow out the whole thing, may i know how can i switch back to 2.4.x? |
| 13:06.04 | plb | smo_: i get /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp |
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| 13:06.20 | greycat | zkchong: on the grub menu, you just arrow down to the 2.4.x line and hit enter. |
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| 13:06.31 | dumezil | what does it mean when i get this error message: "alert: cannot start: unable to switch to queue directory" ive googled this and not found much that helps... |
| 13:06.39 | dumezil | shit wrong channel |
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| 13:06.48 | smo_ | with the ps -aux?? |
| 13:06.54 | plb | smo_: ya |
| 13:07.00 | chealer | docelic/greycat: I see... |
| 13:07.03 | smo_ | i have many strange lines |
| 13:07.06 | smo_ | i test on my pc wait |
| 13:07.11 | plb | ok |
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| 13:07.36 | smo_ | smo 12161 0.0 0.3 4048 1808 pts/3 S+ 14:32 0:00 ssh -X -l mau 82.224.46.107 |
| 13:07.36 | smo_ | smo 14833 0.0 0.1 2152 784 pts/1 S+ 15:08 0:00 grep X |
| 13:07.56 | zkchong | ok thanks guys. |
| 13:07.57 | smo_ | on his pc i have many lines |
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| 13:08.16 | xhypno | anyone gotten an error stating that a module is not formated for the kernel it was compiled against |
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| 13:08.24 | plb | logs might show if its up to |
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| 13:09.00 | smo_ | .Xsession? |
| 13:09.02 | aedwards_ | Folks...I have an ipsec tunnel in tunnel mode and I can't seem to be able to send traffic originating on the gateway device over the tunnel. Traffic always gets natted to the internet. Taffic from LAN clients are able to send taffic over the ipsec tunnel via the gateway. I want to be able to connect from the ipsec endpoint to a client on the other end of the ipsec tunnel. Is there something I can do? |
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| 13:09.16 | mosty | xhypno, that doesn't make sense. perhaps you mean you're not running the kernel the module was compiled against |
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| 13:09.32 | nakeee | Where can I find DVD image of etch?I can only find cds |
| 13:09.44 | abrotman | are you sure you want etch? |
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| 13:10.03 | greycat | dpkg, be clueless barbie is <reply> <greycat> maxime_: you are *really* clueless, aren't you? <maxime_> greycat, I don't know what clueless mean |
| 13:10.03 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
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| 13:10.15 | jeffrin | is there any tar ball which contains all RFC's |
| 13:10.26 | xhypno | mosty: no, I just built the ipw2200 module against the ieee80211 module, that I had just compiled against kernel 2.6.13, the current kernel I am using. That is why it is confusing me. |
| 13:10.29 | nakeee | <xsdg> nakeee: could you ask if a chanop could unset +J temporarily? |
| 13:10.34 | syntaxx | i cant boot my windows.. im using lilo. what do i need to check to make it work? |
| 13:10.34 | Anthro | nakeee: Is there a reason you need all packages on a DVD, rather than just the netinst CD? |
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| 13:10.40 | nakeee | from the poor guy on #debian-overflow:) |
| 13:10.45 | xsdg | woohoo |
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| 13:10.54 | greycat | jeffrin: I think they're under a non-free license or something |
| 13:10.58 | abrotman | nakeee: why would you want etch/testing? |
| 13:11.00 | xsdg | yeah, +J is no good atm |
| 13:11.02 | nakeee | xsdg, hey:) I just pasted your request but i guess you don't need it anymore;) |
| 13:11.07 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
| 13:11.09 | mosty | xhypno, i'm confused- i thought you built modules against a kernel, not against other modules |
| 13:11.09 | *** mode/#debian [-J] by greycat |
| 13:11.10 | plb | smo_: you can check top to =P |
| 13:11.16 | xsdg | nakeee: well, there are still a considerable number of folks in -overflow |
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| 13:11.18 | xsdg | greycat: thanks |
| 13:11.28 | plb | it will show if X is up in there |
| 13:11.28 | nakeee | what's +j anyhow? |
| 13:11.29 | jeffrin | greycat : let me try for that |
| 13:11.32 | abrotman | xsdg: i didn't have any problems joining about 3 minutes ago |
| 13:11.42 | smo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.44 | smo_ | with top |
| 13:11.47 | Anthro | nakeee: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 13:11.49 | *** mode/#debian [-l] by greycat |
| 13:11.50 | streuner | abrotman: luck |
| 13:12.00 | abrotman | streuner: nah .. you guys love me .. except Rez |
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| 13:12.06 | streuner | haha |
| 13:12.07 | xsdg | abrotman: heh |
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| 13:12.11 | plb | smo_: there ya go |
| 13:12.13 | syntaxx | i cant boot my windows.. im using lilo. what do i need to check to make it work? help pls |
| 13:12.21 | drichards | my brother is too shy to come on and ask. Last night he installed 3.1.0a on his dual processor sparc64 box. Everything went fine. When he used aptitude to install the 2.5-smp kernel, however, it black-screened and died after silo. Are there known problems with 2.6 on sparc64? |
| 13:12.22 | nakeee | abrotman, someone is going abroad and we use etch as our development platform so he want to take a DVD with him to install so he can keep working |
| 13:12.26 | abrotman | syntaxx: google "Lilo dual boot windows" |
| 13:12.26 | smo_ | so it s working no?? |
| 13:12.27 | antgel | !pls |
| 13:12.27 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
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| 13:12.34 | xhypno | mosty: depends on the module, but the module that ipw2200 is built against is built against the same kernel headers as the kernel I am trying to run the module on |
| 13:12.36 | abrotman | nakeee: are you serious? |
| 13:12.42 | smo_ | i can see amule kdesktop .... with his login name |
| 13:12.45 | abrotman | nakeee: you're going to have to use jigdo i thinhk |
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| 13:12.57 | plb | smo_: appears its working =] |
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| 13:13.03 | abrotman | nakeee: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/dvd/jigdo-area/i386/ |
| 13:13.04 | Anthro | nakeee: You do know that the internet works in other countries, right? |
| 13:13.05 | syntaxx | abrotman: awhile ago it works fine. but when i comment the old kernel it wont load the selection |
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| 13:13.14 | streuner | peterS: are you around? |
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| 13:13.21 | xsdg | Anthro: heh |
| 13:13.21 | abrotman | syntaxx: you reran lilo ? |
| 13:13.22 | jeffrin | greycat : do you know the name of that debian package |
| 13:13.24 | smo_ | ok thanks pbl |
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| 13:13.27 | abrotman | streuner: i am! |
| 13:13.33 | syntaxx | abrotman: yeah |
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| 13:13.42 | abrotman | but i'm no peterS ... |
| 13:13.44 | syntaxx | abrotman: i also try liloconfig though |
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| 13:13.52 | greycat | jeffrin: I don't see one, and I believe that's because the RFCs are non-redistributable. |
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| 13:14.09 | zkchong | may I know is there any ftp program pre-installed in the debian? |
| 13:14.11 | streuner | abrotman: we need somebody who change nospambot.pl - spambots just change their nick, so this script has no effect at all atm... |
| 13:14.25 | greycat | zkchong: NO! |
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| 13:14.30 | greycat | and THANK GOD! |
| 13:14.32 | chealer | zkchong: no FTP program is installed by default |
| 13:14.35 | abrotman | streuner: well .. that looks like perl .. you could ask #perl? :) |
| 13:14.36 | Anthro | zkchong: A bare minimum is preinstalled. apt-get install ncftp |
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| 13:14.47 | greycat | neither client nor server, except insofar as apt has FTP client capabilities. |
| 13:14.47 | zkchong | ok thanks |
| 13:14.50 | chealer | greycat: FTP is future's only layer 7 protocol |
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| 13:15.00 | Anthro | greycat: Isn't curl preinstalled, too? |
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| 13:15.07 | abrotman | isn't the ftp client installed by default ? |
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| 13:15.14 | syntaxx | abrotman: what do you think is the problem with my lilo? |
| 13:15.15 | greycat | !info curl sarge |
| 13:15.17 | dpkg | curl: (Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server), section web, is optional. Version: 7.13.2-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 143 kB, Installed size: 204 kB |
| 13:15.18 | greycat | !info ftp sarge |
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| 13:15.21 | dpkg | ftp: (The FTP client.), section base, is standard. Version: 0.17-12 (sarge), Packaged size: 50 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 13:15.25 | abrotman | syntaxx: it's not setup right .. try to rerun lilo |
| 13:15.25 | greycat | ARGH! |
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| 13:15.31 | abrotman | !win me |
| 13:15.32 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 13:15.34 | abrotman | i think that's a win .... |
| 13:15.35 | syntaxx | ok |
| 13:15.35 | greycat | they install FTP but not SSH!?? |
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| 13:15.39 | greycat | that is fucktarded! |
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| 13:15.48 | abrotman | greycat: ftp apt sources would require ftp no? |
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| 13:15.59 | greycat | abrotman: I thought apt-get(8) had it built in. |
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| 13:16.03 | Guerin | ssh is in the sarge base install |
| 13:16.05 | abrotman | (unless apt-get has that built in) |
| 13:16.08 | docelic | abrotman, it's built in |
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| 13:16.12 | greycat | Guerin: is not. |
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| 13:16.15 | Anthro | greycat: Please, ftp is an important shareware downloading protocol, whereas ssh is a subversive encrypted traffic enabler. |
| 13:16.18 | abrotman | docelic: so why does base need ftp!?!?!?!?!?!? |
| 13:16.21 | Guerin | greycat: i've never had to install it. |
| 13:16.26 | abrotman | !tell me abuut ep |
| 13:16.27 | greycat | !info ssh sarge |
| 13:16.32 | docelic | abrotman, one ? would be enough.. |
| 13:16.32 | dpkg | ssh: (Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH)), section net, is standard. Version: 1:3.8.1p1-8.sarge.4 (sarge), Packaged size: 671 kB, Installed size: 1644 kB |
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| 13:16.35 | antgel | greycat: freebsd installs sendmail not exim as default. more fucktarded |
| 13:16.39 | abrotman | docelic: you don't say :) |
| 13:16.42 | mosty | all your base are belong to ftp |
| 13:16.43 | nakeee | Anthro, gee thanks does it mean I'm chatting long distance? |
| 13:16.43 | tralala | greycat: that @ hurts my eyes |
| 13:16.46 | xsdg | greycat: ok; -overflow is empty |
| 13:16.46 | greycat | antgel: as does openbsd. |
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| 13:17.01 | sussudio | "Ask Slashdot: 9 Weeks to Pump Out New Orleans?" |
| 13:17.02 | xsdg | heh; poor timing :o) |
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| 13:17.06 | sussudio | i read that as "Pimp Out New Orleans" |
| 13:17.09 | abrotman | sussudio: try .. a year |
| 13:17.10 | tralala | much better thanks |
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| 13:17.15 | sussudio | i don't think New Orleans needs any more pimpin' |
| 13:17.15 | docelic | abrotman, as a matter of fact, BASE install does not require ftp... |
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| 13:17.21 | plb | wasn't sendmail the cause of openbsds 1 security hole in 8 years heh |
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| 13:17.27 | greycat | plb: no, openssh. |
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| 13:17.32 | docelic | abrotman, it was probably included by hand in whatever method you use to install |
| 13:17.33 | plb | ah |
| 13:17.50 | greycat | sshd runs by default on an openbsd base install |
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| 13:17.58 | abrotman | !info ftp sarge |
| 13:18.00 | dpkg | ftp: (The FTP client.), section base, is standard. Version: 0.17-12 (sarge), Packaged size: 50 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 13:18.01 | Anthro | Did OpenBSD actually manage to secure sendmail? That behemoth? |
| 13:18.01 | sussudio | abrotman: i guess putting xboxes in every nook and cranny isn't going to do very good when everything's flooded anyway. |
| 13:18.05 | abrotman | docelic: it's in base ... |
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| 13:18.16 | abrotman | sussudio: and there's no power :) |
| 13:18.19 | greycat | Anthro: sendmail doesn't listen on ethernet interfaces by default. |
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| 13:18.22 | abrotman | speaking .. anyone seen initech ? |
| 13:18.26 | greycat | Anthro: it only listens on localhost |
| 13:18.26 | abrotman | !seen initech |
| 13:18.27 | dpkg | initech <~tim@scatterbolt.r00tserverz.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 28d 10h 6m 12s ago, saying: ']i hate on that shit till it's a smoking crater, hellscape lookin bombed out shit'. |
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| 13:18.32 | Anthro | greycat: Ah, that would make it significantly more secure. |
| 13:18.32 | sussudio | abrotman: just needs extra batteries and a bigger alternator. |
| 13:18.35 | abrotman | guess he evacuated a long time ago |
| 13:18.41 | docelic | abrotman, I am saying it is NOT necessary for debian to operate.. I am looking at as debootrstrap script for sarge, and it doesnt install ftp |
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| 13:19.03 | abrotman | docelic: but it is installed by default |
| 13:19.04 | briankeys | I have a default multipath route being setup. But when one of my DHCP leases expire, and is renewed, DHCP creates a second default route that overrides my multipath one. How can I get Debian to stop amending my routing table after a DHCP query? |
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| 13:19.18 | xsdg | abrotman: that's an embarassing message to leave behind :o) |
| 13:19.20 | sussudio | briankeys: read your dhcp-client manual |
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| 13:19.29 | docelic | abrotman, probably because it's useful, just like telnet client ?! |
| 13:19.32 | abrotman | xsdg: odd anyways |
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| 13:19.42 | SimonRaven | apt has an ftp method... |
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| 13:20.01 | SimonRaven | a small little ftp client |
| 13:20.03 | xhypno | man, linux on a newer laptop sucks when not that many people have done it. |
| 13:20.05 | abrotman | docelic: which would make sense IF telnet were in base .. but it's NOT |
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| 13:20.39 | greycat | sussudio: liberate them! |
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| 13:20.46 | sussudio | can't you just ban 85.* and +e anyone who asks for it in person? |
| 13:20.47 | greycat | oh wait, that only works on americans. |
| 13:20.48 | SimonRaven | why would it, it's not needed. it's only good for debugging networks now (and visiting route servers, ...) |
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| 13:21.18 | SimonRaven | sussudio: hehe, have a jackhammer on me ;) |
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| 13:21.26 | sussudio | hm the turks have invaded rimatardnet. |
| 13:21.31 | greycat | heh |
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| 13:21.47 | greycat | I thought the spanish kicked the turks out in 1492 |
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| 13:21.53 | sussudio | apparently not. |
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| 13:22.14 | nkuttler | turks never were in spain |
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| 13:22.23 | jm_ | they never made it that far ;) |
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| 13:22.23 | docelic | abrotman, and you are confusing things here.. something being in base doesnt mean much.. ftp isn't 'required' nor 'essential', so I dont see your point |
| 13:22.23 | nkuttler | they were in austria |
| 13:22.23 | sussudio | nkuttler: they were called mores back then |
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| 13:22.25 | chealer | if I use exim4, and set "General type of mail configuration" to "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail", and I chose to forward root's mail to my user at install time, root's mail will fail to deliver, right? |
| 13:22.28 | vinson | what's the easiest way to disable gdm at boot |
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| 13:22.33 | greycat | well, moors or muslems or something. |
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| 13:22.36 | nkuttler | sussudio: different people, same religion |
| 13:22.38 | jm_ | vinson: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 13:22.42 | docelic | chealer, you're a though nut aren't you... |
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| 13:22.45 | vinson | thanks jm_ |
| 13:22.46 | sussudio | nkuttler: "they all look the same anyway" |
| 13:22.49 | nkuttler | like saying french started ww2 |
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| 13:22.58 | abrotman | docelic: it's in base .. it gets installed |
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| 13:23.08 | sussudio | nkuttler: they did. damn frenchies. |
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| 13:23.15 | nkuttler | sussudio: jawohl! |
| 13:23.17 | sussudio | !blame france |
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| 13:23.26 | docelic | SimonRaven, I quickly remind myself of why I stopped visiting this place... |
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| 13:23.40 | sussudio | docelic: is it the cavity searches? |
| 13:23.40 | chealer | docelic: I'm trying to make sure it took me over a year using debian to figure that out |
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| 13:23.49 | SimonRaven | docelic: they're acting up ;p |
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| 13:24.30 | streuner | well, after using nospambot.pl it has success yet, i see on X-Chat many bots, but not that many on irssi.... |
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| 13:24.43 | abrotman | holy omther of god |
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| 13:24.59 | abrotman | can't freenode just stop the darn hosts from connecting? |
| 13:25.00 | streuner | abrotman: use nospambot.pl |
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| 13:25.08 | plb | hm I have an Intro to unix class that should be easy after using linux for 7 years |
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| 13:25.09 | abrotman | streuner: for irssi ... |
| 13:25.14 | streuner | yes |
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| 13:25.14 | greycat | abrotman: apparently they are k-lining as fast as they can |
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| 13:25.17 | abrotman | plb: no! |
| 13:25.23 | plb | abrotman: no? |
| 13:25.24 | sussudio | nospambot isn't doing much good right now |
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| 13:25.26 | abrotman | greycat: really? .. that's kind of sad :) |
| 13:25.30 | sussudio | :-| |
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| 13:25.39 | abrotman | plb: depends on which Unix .. do you know which they will be teaching?> |
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| 13:25.47 | plb | abrotman: no |
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| 13:25.57 | abrotman | plb: just pray it's not PCUnix :) |
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| 13:26.05 | plb | abrotman: heh ok |
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| 13:26.10 | abrotman | mmm SCO Unix ... |
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| 13:26.53 | streuner | abrotman: in $timeout use 10.5 |
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| 13:27.03 | abrotman | this is kind of disgusting |
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| 13:27.32 | nkuttler | is the .5 somehow important? |
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| 13:27.41 | jethro | /mod/umode +E |
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| 13:27.43 | streuner | abrotman: you need to wait about 1/2 hr. till nospambot.pl took place... |
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| 13:27.55 | abrotman | streuner; if only i were using irssi .. i'm at work ... |
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| 13:28.17 | streuner | abrotman: so you can't ssh to another box? |
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| 13:28.19 | abrotman | streuner: i get to do special progrmaming today! |
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| 13:28.48 | abrotman | streuner: i could i suppose .. or compile it for cygwin |
| 13:28.51 | sussudio | mreh |
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| 13:29.09 | abrotman | ok .. stopping joining i can see .. but muting everyone ? |
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| 13:29.25 | clem_yeats | anybody has a picture of etch ? I can't find out what character it is in Toy Story.. |
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| 13:29.36 | greycat | clem_yeats: the etch-a-sketch |
| 13:29.37 | abrotman | clem_yeats: the etch-a-sketch |
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| 13:29.43 | sussudio | clem_yeats: it's an etch-a-sketch. |
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| 13:29.44 | abrotman | !beer greycat |
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| 13:29.53 | abrotman | clem_yeats: do you really want a picture? |
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| 13:29.56 | clem_yeats | yes |
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| 13:30.23 | clem_yeats | etch-a-sketch doesn't seem to translate into my mother tongue :) |
| 13:30.24 | abrotman | clem_yeats: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800026443&cf=pg&photoid=36143&intl=us |
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| 13:30.34 | abrotman | maybe we should add that to the etch factoid ... |
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| 13:30.42 | sussudio | clem_yeats: http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/toy_story_2/_group_photos/hamm11.jpg < hamm, potato and etch. |
| 13:30.44 | clem_yeats | oh !! ok :) |
| 13:30.55 | clem_yeats | lol |
| 13:30.58 | clem_yeats | ok ok |
| 13:31.06 | abrotman | make sense now? |
| 13:31.10 | clem_yeats | yep ! |
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| 13:31.23 | abrotman | petemc: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800026443&cf=pg&photoid=36143&intl=us |
| 13:31.26 | abrotman | hahahahah |
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| 13:32.04 | clem_yeats | anybody knows of gnome or kde themes that used Toy story and debian to make nice wallpapers ? |
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| 13:32.13 | DaDave | hi all |
| 13:32.13 | petemc | abrotman: you've lost me |
| 13:32.16 | DaDave | is there a possibilty to share the desktop, but with the RDP protocol. so that windows clients can connect to my desktop with the remote desktop client which is built in with windows xp? |
| 13:32.31 | abrotman | petemc: sorry .. that's why i apologized :) .. someone was lookign for a picture of etch |
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| 13:32.38 | petemc | abrotman: ahh, all good :) |
| 13:32.45 | clem_yeats | DaDave : you can use VNC I think. |
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| 13:32.49 | petemc | abrotman: any ideas why i cant idle in this channel? |
| 13:33.04 | Guerin | !any ideas |
| 13:33.05 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of string, a little K-Y jelly, and a dozen rabid oxen. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 13:33.21 | greycat | nkuttler: BAD! |
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| 13:33.23 | Guerin | nkuttler: you dumb motherfucker |
| 13:33.26 | plb | heh |
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| 13:33.41 | ircdevil | !smite nkuttler |
| 13:33.48 | DaDave | clem_yeats: yeah, i know. but the problem with VNC would be that i wold need to install a VNC client on every windows running client machine. But bc every windows machine has already the remote desktop client (RDP protocol using) i tought if there is a RDP server for linux available. |
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| 13:33.59 | xhypno | ok, solved the problem, dropped down to 2.6.12-r6, recompiled ieee80211 and ipw2200, then sent a bug report to the ieee80211 and ipw2200 projects |
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| 13:35.16 | clem_yeats | DaDave : the VNC client can be sent as an executable file... a few hundred Ks... by email, no need to install. |
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| 13:36.04 | abrotman | petemc: idle all you want :) |
| 13:36.18 | abrotman | petemc: you're saying you get kicked? |
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| 13:36.24 | atom-z | are there any pieces of virtualization software that would allow me to run windows 2000 with hardware accelerated video? |
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| 13:36.45 | Gathond | DaDave: I believe java implementations of VNC clients made to run in a browser exists |
| 13:36.45 | sep | atom-z, cedega ? |
| 13:36.46 | greycat | atom-z: get a second computer for it. |
| 13:36.47 | petemc | abrotman: im not sure im being kicked, but most mornings the debian window is gone from my irc client |
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| 13:36.57 | DaDave | clem_yeats: true. but another question is if VNC supports some things i am used to with the RDP protocol (or more with the remote desktop client) like for exmaple support for Copy and Paste trough remote desktops... |
| 13:36.59 | abrotman | petemc: maybe one of the ops doesn't like you? :) |
| 13:37.05 | plb | atom-z: vmware is the closest you will get to that but no accelerated video |
| 13:37.05 | petemc | abrotman: perhaps :) |
| 13:37.09 | Guerin | petemc: it's just netsplits and stuff |
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| 13:37.11 | Ronin | petemc: could be netsplits and we get shunted to debian-overflow |
| 13:37.12 | Guerin | happens to me too |
| 13:37.14 | DaDave | Gathond: thank you for the tip. but wouldn |
| 13:37.18 | clem_yeats | DaDave : hmmm... good point. |
| 13:37.26 | DaDave | Gathond: thank you for the tip. but wouldn't that be very slow? |
| 13:37.32 | petemc | fair enough |
| 13:37.34 | greycat | petemc: freenode has been tossing us around lately... too many ircd software "upgrades" |
| 13:37.42 | petemc | ahh, indeed |
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| 13:37.57 | DaDave | clem_yeats: do you know if VNC supports Copy n paste? |
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| 13:38.11 | Gathond | DaDave: why would it be much slower than anything else? I assume the java code runs in the browser on the client machine, so the network traffic would be the same |
| 13:38.12 | clem_yeats | DaDave : I suppose you should ask in a windows forum since RDP is closely tied to that paltform.. |
| 13:38.19 | clem_yeats | DaDave : let me check |
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| 13:38.54 | clem_yeats | DaDave : no it doesn't |
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| 13:38.59 | atom-z | plb, I see |
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| 13:39.08 | clem_yeats | DaDave : Exceed ? |
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| 13:39.22 | xhypno | Time to keep fingers crossed, driver and module loading. time for firmware |
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| 13:39.52 | atom-z | plb, I'll probably wait for the next version until I actually buy it, because VMware workstation 5 has very limited 64-bit linux support and 'experimental' direct3d support |
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| 13:40.09 | clem_yeats | DaDave : Exceed supports copy/paste |
| 13:40.26 | abrotman | exceed is vnc iirc |
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| 13:40.43 | DaDave | clem_yeats: oh you meant a apllication that is named Exceed. i tought you meant simply the word exceed :-) |
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| 13:40.52 | plb | atom-z: there are a couple other projects similiar to vmware out there dunno how good they are though |
| 13:40.58 | clem_yeats | DaDave : yes, it's an application. |
| 13:41.04 | abrotman | Hummingbird Exceed |
| 13:41.05 | jm_ | DaDave: VNC sure does |
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| 13:41.22 | jm_ | Exceed is X server for WIndows |
| 13:41.25 | jm_ | commercial |
| 13:41.30 | DaDave | jm_: thanks. |
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| 13:41.41 | abrotman | jm_: and client |
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| 13:42.02 | clem_yeats | but sure if you're running windows, you don't really mind if it's commercial or not. |
| 13:42.03 | plb | windows vista will rawk your socks =P |
| 13:42.04 | xhypno | yessss |
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| 13:42.30 | greycat | plb: troll elsewhere, please. |
| 13:42.32 | DaDave | clem_yeats: hmm... but that would mean that i have to install an x server on every client machine. hmm. i still like more the idea of doing the things with suftware that is already avaiable on all client machines (like Remtoe Desktop does...). but thanks so far for your help! |
| 13:42.36 | nkuttler | greycat: sorry, won't happen again |
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| 13:42.48 | plb | greycat: I was kidding! |
| 13:42.54 | streuner | nkuttler: why did you doing this? |
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| 13:43.12 | clem_yeats | DaDave : no problem. Then you want to look at a RDP server for linux. |
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| 13:43.25 | Sepho | hi all!! |
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| 13:43.56 | DaDave | clem_yeats: yeah. i |
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| 13:44.13 | DaDave | clem_yeats: yeah. i'm searching for a RDP server for linux. but i have not found one yet... |
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| 13:45.08 | clem_yeats | DaDave : here are RDP clients for linux, but you need the server :) http://www.rdesktop.org/ |
| 13:45.08 | Sepho | I've a problem, I want to install packages with apt-get install but i want to install in my language (spanish) i have configured locals |
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| 13:45.33 | DaDave | clem_yeats: the client works great so far :-) but i need a server :-) |
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| 13:45.49 | greycat | locales, not loals |
| 13:45.49 | tralala | Sepho: #debian-es? |
| 13:45.53 | greycat | or locals. |
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| 13:46.15 | Sepho | thanks |
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| 13:46.21 | clem_yeats | DaDave : I know.. I doubt you'll find it though.. |
| 13:46.26 | fken | hello everyone ! I finally fund the way to have sound with my card : anyone interested by the solution ? greycat ? |
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| 13:46.57 | DaDave | clem_yeats: i hope you are wrong :-) i want to find one :-) |
| 13:47.00 | tralala | fken: sure, go ahed and share it with us. |
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| 13:47.10 | atom-z | plb, none of the other projects i've seen support hardware accelerated video (They would probably need to get a driver signed by microsoft, or something) |
| 13:47.10 | clem_yeats | DaDave : good luck and may the source be with you ! |
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| 13:47.54 | DaDave | clem_yeats: no. no source please. i like more binaries :-) |
| 13:48.02 | plb | atom-z: are you wanting to play games or something? |
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| 13:48.24 | clem_yeats | DaDave : ... |
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| 13:48.59 | fken | so my card is a SB live 7.1 24bits I firt tried to install alsa with apt : it doesnt work ; then I tried to install manually and I saw a problem (my kernel was compiled with gcc3.4 and the default compiler was gcc4.0... the solution is to change the source (testing -> unstable) and install the kernel image 2.6.12-1 |
| 13:49.12 | atom-z | plb, uh yeah |
| 13:49.24 | atom-z | plb, I currently have windows on its own partition |
| 13:49.25 | plb | atom-z: cedega? |
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| 13:49.39 | atom-z | plb, I could try that I suppose |
| 13:49.44 | fken | I dunno really if its the apt which installed alsa or me because I installed it manually after... |
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| 13:49.47 | atom-z | plb, dunno how good it is |
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| 13:50.06 | plb | atom-z: I never tried it but they have a list of supported games on there site and forums so you could check that |
| 13:50.10 | tralala | fken: I guess an easier and safer solution would have been to compile your module with 3.4 instead of upgrading to a sid kernel |
| 13:50.23 | atom-z | plb, yeah |
| 13:50.40 | fken | tralala : i tried but it refuse : gcc is a dependance of gcc 4.0 |
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| 13:50.59 | tralala | but gcc-3.4 isn't |
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| 13:51.41 | fken | if i try to remove gcc4.0 it removes gcc |
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| 13:51.47 | tralala | fken: did you use the module assistant? |
| 13:51.56 | greycat | maybe we should just give up EVER trying to teach people how to have (and use) two versions of gcc at the same time. |
| 13:51.58 | fken | even if gcc3.4 is installed |
| 13:52.12 | plb | relink gcc =P |
| 13:52.13 | greycat | editing a makefile or setting an environment variable is, like, SO hard. |
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| 13:52.36 | fken | i tried with module assistant for the video card but i dont remember if i tried with the sb problem... i guess i tries |
| 13:52.36 | greycat | fken: WHY did you think you needed to remove gcc-4.0? |
| 13:52.38 | tralala | fken: you can have both 4.0 and 3.4 installed at the same time and you don't need to remove none of them |
| 13:52.53 | fken | how to use 3.4 ? |
| 13:52.59 | antgel | in /etc/hosts, should 127.0.0.1 line _only contain localhost, or should it contain the actual hostname of the machine as well? |
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| 13:53.00 | ircdevil | arafat? |
| 13:53.03 | tralala | export CC=gcc-3.4 |
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| 13:53.46 | tralala | antgel: grep localhost /etc/hosts # 127.0.0.1IlaptopIlocalhost |
| 13:53.49 | greycat | antgel: opinions vary. the "norm" these days seems to be putting your (dynamically addressed) host's name on the localhost line. |
| 13:53.50 | fken | anyway : strangely : I cant install a 32bit distribution of debian and ubuntu 64 an fedora core 64 freeze my display |
| 13:53.59 | plb | fken: I had a simliar problem and exporting CC didn't work for me I did the ugly thing and links gcc to gcc-3.4 and then moved it back afterwards heh |
| 13:54.00 | greycat | antgel: obviously you wouldn't do that if you have a static address |
| 13:54.15 | Laibsch | !usbmouse |
| 13:54.16 | dpkg | usbmouse is probably [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
| 13:54.32 | fken | plb : omg why havent I met you before... |
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| 13:54.56 | mwilson | Why do cluebies always think they need to mess with the symlink? gcc should chattr the thing or something. |
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| 13:55.04 | greycat | plb: that's because the linux kernel makefiles don't use the CC environment variable. they have CC= and HOSTCC= embedded inside them. |
| 13:55.19 | greycat | mwilson: because they're too dumb to vi Makefile |
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| 13:55.48 | plb | i tried tinkering with the makefile actually the vmware config file which is a perl script |
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| 13:55.56 | plb | it still didn't work |
| 13:56.06 | greycat | and I'm not sure whether "make CC=... HOSTCC=..." works with the linux makefile(s) because god only knows whether it gets passed down to lower levels. |
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| 13:56.17 | error403 | is there any way to stop programs locking /dev/dsp, because once i use something like skype, it stops me being able to use media players... |
| 13:56.19 | mwilson | Well, you're asking a lot of them, there. After all, they just want to build kernels... it's not like they actually need to learn anything about the compiler. |
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| 13:56.24 | greycat | plb: vmware? this is the part where we point at you and laugh. |
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| 13:56.41 | antgel | greycat: what about localhost.localdomain in /etc/hosts? should it stay or should it go? |
| 13:56.47 | mwilson | </sarcasm> |
| 13:56.48 | greycat | antgel: won't hurt anything |
| 13:56.50 | plb | greycat: ya ya i know but I couldn't figure out another way to do it |
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| 13:57.03 | LoRez | error403: use a software mixer like esd |
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| 13:57.09 | greycat | plb: ask VMware Inc. to support you. |
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| 13:57.19 | greycat | or whatever their company name is |
| 13:57.23 | fken | so what could be the problem with the unstable kernel ? |
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| 13:57.42 | tralala | you mean besides the fact that it is unstable? |
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| 13:57.51 | plb | greycat: well it installs fine now since the kernel im used was compiled with gcc-4 |
| 13:57.57 | error403 | LoRez, thanks for the prompt to think of changing which engine i was using... |
| 13:58.00 | greycat | LoRez: I bet that 1000 ms delay in esd makes his skype conversations *so* pleasant. :) |
| 13:58.11 | fken | cause the kernel is the only thing i install (with the headers off course) and now i updated to the testing distrib again |
| 13:58.12 | LoRez | greycat: not my problem man :) |
| 13:58.28 | fken | yeah tralala |
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| 13:58.49 | LoRez | you either need a good sound card with multiple hardware mixed output channels or a software mixer of some sort |
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| 13:58.57 | antgel | fken: you constantly come across as having lots of problems. perhaps you should stick to stabla for a while? |
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| 13:59.23 | tralala | fken: basically you're trying hard to break your system. It could take a while, because Debian doesn't give up easily, but eventually you will succeed. |
| 13:59.24 | fken | antgel : stabla ? |
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| 13:59.38 | antgel | fken: stable |
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| 14:00.13 | fken | antgel : but nothing works with the stable : GC emulated in vesa mode and no sound |
| 14:00.26 | Rednax | anyone want to help me figure out a problem with my graphics :( |
| 14:00.32 | Rednax | on debian |
| 14:00.42 | plb | Rednax: just ask ;] |
| 14:00.45 | Rednax | everything is pixelated |
| 14:00.46 | greycat | what the fuck does "GC emulated in vesa mode" mean? |
| 14:00.47 | fken | tralala : break what ? a problem of dependancies or a hardware problem ? |
| 14:00.48 | Rednax | and ive just installed |
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| 14:00.55 | antgel | fken: wtf is GC? and sound works. |
| 14:00.57 | Rednax | i tried installing a newer gfx driver |
| 14:00.59 | tralala | !tell fken -about sid faq |
| 14:01.03 | Rednax | but it gave me an error |
| 14:01.06 | nsanity | Anyone here install sarge on dell poweredge hardware? |
| 14:01.09 | Rednax | saying somink about kernel' |
| 14:01.26 | fken | greycat : my Graphic Card sorry |
| 14:01.26 | antgel | fken: if stable is not suitable, try a distro more suited to you. testing and unstable are not doing it. |
| 14:01.38 | greycat | your graphics card is EMULATED? |
| 14:01.38 | tralala | Rednax: "something about kernel" is the key to your problem |
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| 14:01.47 | antgel | heh |
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| 14:01.49 | Rednax | but what is it? |
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| 14:01.56 | fken | antgel : I tried Fedora Core and Ubuntu : nothng work |
| 14:01.56 | Rednax | it said it will try download it' |
| 14:01.58 | Rednax | it then failed |
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| 14:02.03 | Rednax | then said to try compile |
| 14:02.04 | greycat | fken: WHAT graphics card is it? |
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| 14:02.07 | Rednax | failed again |
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| 14:02.18 | tralala | !tell Rednax -about ask |
| 14:02.18 | plb | Rednax: what is it trying to download |
| 14:02.27 | fken | Geforce 6600 pci express |
| 14:02.31 | Rednax | i dont know |
| 14:02.35 | Rednax | it just said kernel |
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| 14:02.56 | plb | Rednax: you need to be more specific if you want help |
| 14:02.58 | tralala | !enter |
| 14:02.58 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
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| 14:03.14 | Rednax | k |
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| 14:03.36 | greycat | fken: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 14:03.39 | Nemesis_deb | hi there |
| 14:03.47 | Nemesis_deb | need some help |
| 14:03.48 | fken | NB : stable release seems to not be able to recognize the alsa sound module required |
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| 14:04.14 | greycat | fken: so install a newer kernel. no problem there... well, no problem for *clueful* people. |
| 14:04.15 | antgel | fken: you need to install the stupid nvidia drivers. nothing to do with stable. now give me a reason why you aren't using stable, and reinstall. |
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| 14:04.40 | antgel | fken: so insert the module. it's a kernel thing. |
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| 14:04.50 | greycat | unless you consider wasting two hours tearing your hair out answering 5132 questions during a configure to be a problem. |
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| 14:05.00 | greycat | but this is linux! you're supposed to know all those answers! |
| 14:05.06 | fken | greycat ok thanks for the link (ps : it didnt work before but ill tell you if it work with the unstable kernel |
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| 14:05.22 | antgel | fken: why the fuck do you want to use unstable anything? |
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| 14:05.46 | Nemesis_deb | just started using debian and am using gnome but its all in german things like bentuzename |
| 14:05.51 | greycat | antgel: because rather than THINKING about what's causing his problems, he just assumes "if it didn't work out of the box in sarge, unstable is SURE to work!!!!1" |
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| 14:06.08 | Nemesis_deb | how do i get it to english? |
| 14:06.19 | greycat | Nemesis_deb: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:06.29 | stew | Nemesis_deb: you are using debian or knoppix? |
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| 14:06.46 | Nemesis_deb | installed whoppix on my box |
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| 14:07.05 | antgel | Nemesis_deb: you're making that up. |
| 14:07.15 | fken | antgel>because i installed stable already 5 times trying to use even the nv drivers trying to compile kernel to compile manually alsa trying to do a lot of things and amd64 stable release was even able to recognize my sound card |
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| 14:07.44 | fken | testing release recognized it once i installed the 2.6.11-9kernel |
| 14:07.46 | Nemesis_deb | antgel, making what up |
| 14:07.48 | antgel | fken: why are you trying to compile anything when you don't have a clue? |
| 14:07.53 | jethro | whoppix? yet another based on debian distro? |
| 14:07.54 | atom-z | fken, what hardware do you have? |
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| 14:07.57 | fken | but wasnt able to compile anything |
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| 14:08.09 | Nemesis_deb | yeah |
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| 14:08.17 | tralala | fken: compiling is the last resort, not the first |
| 14:08.23 | antgel | Nemesis_deb: is there really something called whoppix? all we're missing now is cockix and iNix |
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| 14:08.34 | jethro | Nemesis_deb: then don't expect support from #debian for your based on debian distro |
| 14:08.36 | tralala | no, correction - the one before the last. Sid is the *END*. |
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| 14:08.40 | Nemesis_deb | but its now known as iwhax |
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| 14:08.53 | fken | atom-z>amd64 arch 3200+ SATA + UATA133 HD k8N SLI nforce4 TFT screen GeForce6600 |
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| 14:09.06 | fken | atom-z>SB live 24bits 7.1 |
| 14:09.09 | jethro | Nemesis_deb: try their support, don't hassle us |
| 14:09.10 | tralala | Nemesis_deb: when you install something known as debian we'll gladly help you |
| 14:09.13 | atom-z | fken, very similar to mine |
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| 14:09.30 | Hecate | greycat: Did you read the article 'Five mistakes GNU/Linux neophytes make' on linux.com? |
| 14:09.33 | aurax_ | hello, i got a problem, i got a debian server i want to make it bridged to the network |
| 14:09.37 | aurax_ | i got dhcpd configured well . |
| 14:09.37 | atom-z | fken, my hardware didnt work properly either in sarge |
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| 14:09.46 | greycat | Hecate: no |
| 14:09.51 | aurax_ | but the other clients cant get to the outside, any special configuration i should made ? |
| 14:09.55 | Hecate | greycat: "GNU/Linux aficionados are often poor sources of distribution advice because they're too involved with advocating their favorite distro to consider new users' needs." |
| 14:09.57 | atom-z | fken, but things work fine in etch, if you install nvidia's drivers |
| 14:09.59 | Nemesis_deb | ok thanks |
| 14:10.01 | fken | tralala>its really not the very first i tried lol (i tried that 1 or 2weeks after the first installation) |
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| 14:10.03 | antgel | greycat: did you see the bug i raised? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=325655 |
| 14:10.03 | Hecate | hehe! :) |
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| 14:10.17 | antgel | fken: why have you tried to install five times? |
| 14:10.30 | Nemesis_deb | n jethro am still new in all this do take it easy on me |
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| 14:10.40 | kuene | hi, is apt-cacher broken in debian sarge stable? it is not able to fetch anything. i am not behind a firewall. yesterday or two days ago it did work. i installed it on my laptop too. just to try, but it doesent work :( |
| 14:10.42 | aurax_ | is there a good debian bridge howto ? |
| 14:11.01 | fken | antgel : because I lost dependances and i tried other distributions |
| 14:11.01 | Nemesis_deb | bye n thanks u all |
| 14:11.10 | Hecate | "GNU/Linux experts are too far removed from the "new to Linux" experience and too entrenched in hard-to-handle distributions like Debian, Slackware, and Gentoo, among others." |
| 14:11.17 | me_here | is there already an etch release ? |
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| 14:11.19 | tango_ | is there some place on the net showing the progress of the switch to the new ABI in sid? |
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| 14:11.42 | kuene | when i remove the cacher url from sources.list everithyng works fine... so its apt-cacher broken?? |
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| 14:12.00 | fken | atom-z : youre right "Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed"... but i had that problem with sarge and with etch |
| 14:12.01 | skate | wtf is apt-cacher? |
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| 14:12.30 | atom-z | fken, although its not really the debian way... |
| 14:12.35 | antgel | fken: my point is that you could have installed once and gotten it _right_. there is no point reinstalling over a mostly fresh system unless you have fucked it senseless |
| 14:12.35 | aurax_ | any help please ? |
| 14:12.47 | atom-z | fken, the stuff installs fine if you use nvidia's own installers |
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| 14:13.16 | antgel | fken: go install sarge as best as you can. come back when you get stuck. |
| 14:13.22 | fken | atom-z>I already planned to do that |
| 14:13.22 | atom-z | fken, just MAKE SURE you uninstall the nvidia stuff BEFORE doing an apt-get upgrade which updates X or anything related with it |
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| 14:13.41 | atom-z | antgel, sarge is *really* broken on the hardware he described |
| 14:13.53 | fken | atom-z> ok |
| 14:13.59 | atom-z | antgel, well, maybe not really broken, but sorta broken |
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| 14:14.05 | antgel | atom-z: then he shouldn't use debian. |
| 14:14.11 | atom-z | antgel, why not? |
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| 14:14.16 | atom-z | antgel, etch works |
| 14:14.16 | antgel | atom-z: make your mind up. |
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| 14:14.23 | fken | atom-z> I even think ill copy my actual XF86Config-4 files |
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| 14:14.45 | fken | atom-z>and then ill simply use vi if there is a problem |
| 14:14.46 | antgel | atom-z: because he's not able to handle testing or unstable. he's been around for days and gotten nowhere. |
| 14:14.51 | atom-z | fken, you shouldnt need to edit that file, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 instead |
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| 14:15.05 | antgel | atom-z: fine, you support him |
| 14:15.07 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 14:15.07 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
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| 14:15.36 | antgel | atom-z: if he can install it on his disk, what's the problem with sarge? |
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| 14:15.47 | fken | atom-z>nice command line thanks |
| 14:15.57 | plb | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no matter what wants to insist I have a sis video card heh |
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| 14:16.04 | abrotman | antgel: i hope you're happy .. i had salad/apple/granola bar! |
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| 14:16.54 | antgel | abrotman: i can't eat much. girlfriend withdrawl. i had a ham and cheese sandwich, some popcorn and a nutty bar thing |
| 14:16.55 | fken | so the only way i fund to have sound is the unstable one : it means at least there is one solution but im sure there are others |
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| 14:17.02 | syntaxx | whats a good tv software to use for pinnacle? |
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| 14:17.11 | antgel | fken: that's because you don't understand |
| 14:17.12 | tralala | fken: what sound module do you use? |
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| 14:17.19 | abrotman | antgel: the least she could have done was left you some food :) |
| 14:17.24 | tralala | syntaxx: tvtime |
| 14:17.25 | greycat | antgel: interesting bug. |
| 14:17.27 | fken | ca0106 or something like that |
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| 14:17.38 | fken | emu10k1 or k2 dont work |
| 14:17.41 | atom-z | antgel, well... when I installed it, graphics didnt work, and the nvidia-kernel wouldnt compile properly or work (the sid .debs nor the nvidia-installer)... also, sarge's kernel is not recommended by nvidia (contains a bug). When I did get display working (via a mega workaround), sound didnt work. So i decided... time to use etch |
| 14:17.41 | tralala | something like that isn't good enough |
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| 14:17.57 | tralala | fken: grep snd /proc/modules |
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| 14:18.08 | syntaxx | tralala: in tvtime you can manually put the frequency? because it didnt detect some of my channels |
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| 14:18.25 | antgel | atom-z: sound is a kernel thing. nothing to do with the distro. video too, especially if using outside-distro drivers |
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| 14:18.40 | fken | snd_ca0106 31620 2 - Live 0xffffffff88242000 |
| 14:18.45 | antgel | abrotman: the least she could have done was not broken my soul |
| 14:18.47 | tralala | syntaxx: you can't type 55Mhz or something but you have a manual (fine)tuning |
| 14:18.53 | antgel | greycat: interesting good or bad? |
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| 14:19.03 | syntaxx | ok thanks |
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| 14:19.14 | tralala | fken: did you compile it on your own or it is already in the kernel? |
| 14:19.23 | EdibleText | !spam bots |
| 14:19.40 | antgel | !spank bots |
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| 14:19.48 | fken | tralala its in the 2.6.11 kernel i think but i compiled it too |
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| 14:20.02 | tralala | fken: err... ?! |
| 14:20.05 | fken | tralala i mean i compiled alsa source |
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| 14:20.06 | FieldySnuts | anyone know how to get rsync to include dotfiles in the source dir? telling it dir/.* follows dir/.. which is not what I want |
| 14:20.13 | fken | not the kernel |
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| 14:20.52 | greycat | FieldySnuts: just putting the directory name with no * doesn't work? |
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| 14:20.58 | error403 | can someone honestly say whether or not amd64 creates more work for yourself when using debian? does it make the OS a little more quirky? |
| 14:21.01 | atom-z | antgel, kernel 2.6.8 is buggy with nvidia's drivers. Yeah I probably could've got sound to work, with alot of messing around |
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| 14:21.07 | greycat | FieldySnuts: (maybe with a trailing / also? dunno, never used rsync.) |
| 14:21.19 | greycat | error403: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 14:21.33 | ryanakca | does anyone know of handwriting recognition for debian? |
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| 14:21.40 | error403 | ouch, greycat, so much more difficult it has its own channel? |
| 14:21.44 | fken | im wondering if there is a soul on debian-amd64 channel |
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| 14:21.52 | FieldySnuts | greycat: hm good point, i was doing blah/* as the source. i think you're onto something |
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| 14:22.02 | greycat | there are 74 nicks on it. I don't know how many of them have souls. |
| 14:22.06 | ircdevil | !ocr |
| 14:22.07 | dpkg | ocr is, like, (Optical Character Recognition) This is the technology that allows computers to "read" the text from physical objects. It requires a graphical representation of text to interpret. This usually comes from a scanned image. see http://jocr.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 14:22.20 | antgel | greycat: if they went out with my ex, none of them |
| 14:22.30 | ircdevil | !gocr |
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| 14:22.37 | tralala | fken: does alsa-source compile with module assistant? |
| 14:22.39 | error403 | i have to say, choice in the CPU market is grim at the moment... |
| 14:22.51 | plb | FieldySnuts: maybe this can help? http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/info/apps/rsync.hints |
| 14:22.55 | plb | not sure if that is what you want |
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| 14:23.04 | Rednax | hmmm |
| 14:23.04 | ircdevil | ryanakca: check out gocr |
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| 14:23.10 | Rednax | any where i can paste stuff? |
| 14:23.12 | antgel | error403: no, choice in the cpu market is dull. what is it with building pc's? it's like building a spanner |
| 14:23.14 | FieldySnuts | greycat: thanks that was it. thanks plb too |
| 14:23.16 | Rednax | without spamming |
| 14:23.18 | ircdevil | Rednax: #flood |
| 14:23.22 | Rednax | k |
| 14:23.25 | plb | Rednax: or pastebin |
| 14:23.27 | greycat | error403: you can choose amd64, or a pile of shit. |
| 14:23.28 | ircdevil | !paste |
| 14:23.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 14:23.32 | greycat | error403: what's grim about that? |
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| 14:23.37 | fken | tralala>I think once i tried with module assistant but not during the last installation |
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| 14:23.54 | ircdevil | that is one fucked up factoid |
| 14:23.54 | Rednax | i pasted my problem into flood |
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| 14:24.23 | fken | tralala> with 2.6.8 there is no Sound Card found (it spoke about isa 's one i gave up) |
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| 14:24.57 | Rednax | my driver installer cannot find a kernel interface |
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| 14:25.04 | Rednax | it tried downloading on |
| 14:25.09 | Rednax | failed |
| 14:25.15 | error403 | greycat, well, amd64 aint so good either, because OS support is debateable, and app support almost non-existant.. |
| 14:25.15 | Rednax | tried compiling and failed again |
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| 14:25.24 | tralala | fken: the normal path is export CC=gcc-3.4 (or whatever); m-a a-i alsa |
| 14:25.29 | SlayerXP | error403: you appear to be talking utter bollocks. |
| 14:25.33 | fken | tralala > with etch it said it found a card installed everything said he finally didnt install anything and said "alsa is now installed enjoy" ... |
| 14:25.45 | error403 | greycat, can you quite easily install 32-bit linux on an AMD 64, or do you need to install the amd64 version? |
| 14:25.56 | fken | i didnt add this line |
| 14:25.56 | antgel | error403: i use debian i386 on an amd64. number of times in a year i have cared: 0. |
| 14:26.02 | greycat | error403: the i386 version runs fine. |
| 14:26.11 | error403 | right, so i DONT need to worry then |
| 14:26.11 | fken | not for me |
| 14:26.16 | error403 | well, thats just changed my mind |
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| 14:26.36 | fken | greycat angel : the i386 installer didnt work for me |
| 14:26.37 | greycat | the only ones that come here and whine about amd64 working all happen to be nvidia users. |
| 14:26.38 | error403 | and is a athlon 64 3000+ still outperforming a athlon XP 3000+ ? |
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| 14:26.50 | greycat | and fken... but oh wait, he's an nvidia user too. |
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| 14:27.04 | antgel | hehe |
| 14:27.09 | error403 | greycat, nvidia graphics or nvidia chipset? |
| 14:27.11 | greycat | and why in the name of god's great gaping anus would he have a *PCI* video card in an amd64 workhorse? |
| 14:27.12 | ricky_clarkson | Why, does nvidia not get along with AMD? |
| 14:27.19 | fireba11 | error403: why should it have changed ? |
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| 14:27.47 | greycat | 10:02 fken> Geforce 6600 pci express |
| 14:27.50 | antgel | ricky_clarkson: seems to me that a lot of the most clueless have the best / most bleeding edge hardware |
| 14:27.58 | fireba11 | hehe |
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| 14:28.07 | greycat | antgel: yes. |
| 14:28.10 | error403 | fireba11, different core, and the 3000 isnt the clock speed |
| 14:28.11 | error403 | duh |
| 14:28.17 | atom-z | ricky_clarkson, nvidia gets along fine with amd |
| 14:28.21 | error403 | lol |
| 14:28.25 | fken | greycat>yeah right (PS : to help you both of them - motherboard and graphic card - are MSI's one |
| 14:28.27 | fireba11 | probably because u learn a lot when trying to make things run smoothly on outdated hardware |
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| 14:28.41 | greycat | antgel: and it's logical, too. they are clueless about hardware as well as software, so they go into {Fry's,Best Buy,Circuit City,CompUSA} and buy whatever's most expensive. |
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| 14:28.46 | atom-z | ricky_clarkson, considering things like SLI were available for amd mobos first |
| 14:28.53 | abrotman | !love antgel |
| 14:29.01 | ricky_clarkson | !sli |
| 14:29.01 | dpkg | sli is probably Scan Line Interleaving, a technique for using 2 or more 3D processors in parallel. Each processor renders a little part of the scanlines in the final image. Gives you more fps :) |
| 14:29.04 | fireba11 | wtf? |
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| 14:29.11 | antgel | greycat: i don't get it. they're using an os that has nowhere near the requirement of winshit, and then decide that the improved performance of the os is not enough and they need a cray |
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| 14:29.22 | antgel | dpkg: i like it |
| 14:29.33 | antgel | that confused the fucker |
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| 14:29.46 | fken | ive to let you all see ya |
| 14:29.57 | fireba11 | does it reply to about anything ? :-D |
| 14:29.58 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: i like it is <reply>you like it (HOT|HARD|LONG TIME|with chips|on a bagel) |
| 14:29.58 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: I think you lost me on that one |
| 14:29.59 | antgel | alrighty roo |
| 14:29.59 | greycat | antgel: they think "newer is better", for one thing. |
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| 14:30.08 | atom-z | ricky_clarkson, SLI is nvidia's parallel-gpu technology (two graphics cards in one box) |
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| 14:30.12 | greycat | antgel: it takes a lot of experience to get over *that* one. |
| 14:30.17 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: cmd: i like it is <reply>you like it (HOT|HARD|LONG TIME|with chips|on a bagel) |
| 14:30.18 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, ricky_clarkson |
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| 14:30.31 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: I know who lost you last summer. |
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| 14:30.45 | antgel | greycat: to be fair, you need a lot of cycles to run bittorrent, firefox, and gaim |
| 14:31.08 | jethro | for ff, you need more memory than cycles |
| 14:31.14 | greycat | antgel: no you don't. |
| 14:31.29 | ricky_clarkson | It's difficult to compare memory and cycles. |
| 14:31.32 | antgel | greycat: was sarcastic |
| 14:31.33 | ricky_clarkson | What units do you use? |
| 14:31.40 | fireba11 | bittorrent doesn't use much cycles ... |
| 14:31.46 | Rednax | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=6043#6043 |
| 14:31.46 | jethro | ricky_clarkson: liters |
| 14:31.51 | greycat | you need a lot of cycles to run your pirated copy of <insert realtime strategy or shoot-em-up> in your pirated copy of windows in your pirated copy of VMware. |
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| 14:32.12 | atom-z | greycat, why isnt new hardware better? |
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| 14:32.15 | antgel | will someone make that a qotd? |
| 14:32.16 | fireba11 | greycat: löl |
| 14:32.19 | greycat | atom-z: because the drivers ain' |
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| 14:32.22 | greycat | t been writ yet. |
| 14:32.23 | ricky_clarkson | antgel: I will. |
| 14:32.25 | Jbd_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:32.44 | ricky_clarkson | I would.. |
| 14:32.47 | ricky_clarkson | !literal qotd0 |
| 14:32.47 | dpkg | qotd0 is <reply> see ... |
| 14:32.49 | ricky_clarkson | WTF? |
| 14:32.54 | greycat | dpkg: /msg dpkg tell me about qotd0 |
| 14:32.58 | greycat | err. |
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| 14:33.02 | madclicker | is there a client for vpn "pptp" on kde? |
| 14:33.03 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: /msg dpkg tell me about qotd0 |
| 14:33.11 | ricky_clarkson | Gotcha. |
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| 14:33.18 | greycat | err.... add a literal in that. |
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| 14:33.32 | greycat | is it time for a nap yet? |
| 14:33.39 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: /msg dpkg tell me about literal qotd0 |
| 14:33.44 | greycat | gah! |
| 14:33.57 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: = 15:34:54 <ricky_clarkson> qotd0 =~ s/135/135|136/ |
| 14:33.57 | ricky_clarkson | = 15:34:54 <dpkg> that's too long |
| 14:33.58 | me_here | greycat: for the effort of programming the drivers, will the hardware manufacturer give any help to the open source community ? is there a list of vendors who do etc. ? |
| 14:34.23 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: I guess you'll just have to probe them one by one |
| 14:34.29 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Find a crap one? |
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| 14:34.37 | greycat | !qotd150 |
| 14:34.42 | greycat | !qotd140 |
| 14:34.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd140 is < greycat> either that, or fucking install mpg321. < Angel-SL> aptget < Angel-SL> ? < greycat> alias fucking=apt-get < greycat> fucking install mpg321 < asg> hah |
| 14:34.46 | greycat | !qotd145 |
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| 14:34.51 | greycat | !qotd142 |
| 14:34.52 | dpkg | qotd142 is, like, <greycat> BIG FUCKING HUGE MISTAKE telling me you have gcc 4.0 and that you can't fucking read the FAQ. |
| 14:34.55 | greycat | !qotd143 |
| 14:34.56 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: How about making qotd0 a bit more intelligent. |
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| 14:35.03 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: suggestions? |
| 14:35.07 | undesktop | that might be a dumb question, but: how do I install KDE with apt-get? |
| 14:35.09 | greycat | anyway, 143 seems to be free. |
| 14:35.13 | jethro | qotd needs a db backend! |
| 14:35.15 | greycat | undesktop: apt-get install kde |
| 14:35.45 | cbr | kde-base rather |
| 14:35.52 | undesktop | greycat: ok, it's a bit complexer: I have the packets from Alioth installed, and now want to install the Debian Unstable packets |
| 14:35.58 | greycat | !pal undesktop |
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| 14:36.05 | fireba11 | uk |
| 14:36.07 | atom-z | me_here, I dont know any that do. ATI used to, but now they make proprietry drivers like nvidia. |
| 14:36.11 | antgel | hehe, one every minute |
| 14:36.11 | undesktop | yeah blame me |
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| 14:36.26 | greycat | atom-z: but fglrx *sucks*. you really want to use xserver-xorg instead. |
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| 14:36.55 | greycat | assuming your hardware isn't so new it still has the designers' blood on it. |
| 14:36.59 | undesktop | greycat: anyway, apt-get says "kde" would be allready the newest version |
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| 14:37.02 | atom-z | greycat, if you have a new ati card, I dont think it will have hardware accelerated drivers |
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| 14:37.14 | ryanakca | does anyone know of handwriting recognition for debian that works in with GNOME? |
| 14:37.14 | greycat | atom-z: so get an older one. |
| 14:37.15 | cbr | is kpdf good? |
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| 14:37.25 | atom-z | greycat, ati released the specs for many radeon cards |
| 14:37.26 | mbuf | hi, can anyone point me to gmake debian package? |
| 14:37.28 | antgel | !good |
| 14:37.30 | phaedral | I set my hostname to a domain I own, now I'm getting "_IceTransSocketUNIXConect: Cannot connect to non-local host oldname |
| 14:37.32 | antgel | !best |
| 14:37.33 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 14:37.37 | greycat | cbr: find a priest and try to exorcise it. if nothing happens, you know it at least wasn't evil. |
| 14:37.39 | atom-z | greycat, well... shared info about the specs |
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| 14:37.42 | ricky_clarkson | !literal qotdtest |
| 14:37.42 | dpkg | qotdtest is <reply> see qotd((1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)|1(0|1|2)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)|130|131|132|134|135) |
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| 14:37.50 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: How about that instead of the uber-long thing? |
| 14:37.57 | skate | undesktop: the ol' install the package that's already installed trick, eh? |
| 14:37.58 | ricky_clarkson | Less maintainable. |
| 14:38.02 | atom-z | greycat, but ATI X<whatever> cards have proprietry drivers |
| 14:38.05 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: it's *horribly* nonrandom |
| 14:38.18 | greycat | atom-z: but you don't have to use those. |
| 14:38.18 | atom-z | afaik |
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| 14:38.38 | undesktop | skate: *shrug* |
| 14:38.39 | atom-z | even if you want accelerated video? |
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| 14:38.40 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: I can make it more non-random. |
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| 14:39.10 | Lee__ | yeah, finally a decision about Firefox from this week's DWN. |
| 14:39.11 | antgel | !compare |
| 14:39.11 | dpkg | somebody said compare was something that only you can decide on, or google for it. a million people have already asked. |
| 14:39.28 | fken | !nvidia |
| 14:39.29 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
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| 14:39.34 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: I think we just need two layers of indirection: one for the hundreds, then 100 within the second layer. it's still biased, but not *quite* as bad. |
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| 14:39.48 | ricky_clarkson | !literal qotdtest |
| 14:39.48 | dpkg | qotdtest is <reply>see qotd(|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9) |
| 14:39.58 | ricky_clarkson | Problem is qotd0 might see qotd0... |
| 14:40.00 | antgel | fken: after installing five times good to see you're getting a clue |
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| 14:40.10 | fken | argh |
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| 14:40.27 | greycat | dpkg, recurse is <reply> see recurse |
| 14:40.28 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
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| 14:40.29 | greycat | !recurse |
| 14:40.30 | dpkg | see recurse |
| 14:40.34 | greycat | hmm. |
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| 14:40.38 | fken | there is a pb with the graphic card : installer said OpenGL has been already installed or something like tha |
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| 14:40.46 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: It would be pretty rare, and doesn't crash anything. |
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| 14:40.57 | greycat | !qotdtest |
| 14:40.57 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd24 is <sanmarcos> Dabian: thank sanmarcos, not me |
| 14:41.06 | me_here | atom-z: thx, just ati, hoah that's a lot of vendors *wonders* |
| 14:41.10 | fken | greycat what was your command line for the nvidia installer ? |
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| 14:41.23 | greycat | fken: read what dpkg told you. |
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| 14:41.34 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: I'll leave it up to you. |
| 14:41.36 | fken | greycat>what ? |
| 14:41.41 | greycat | fken: bye bye. |
| 14:41.42 | antgel | !tell fken about nvidia one-liner |
| 14:41.43 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 14:41.50 | clem_yeats | Hi, I've just installed enlightenment from aptitude.. how can I make it appear as an option within GDM ? |
| 14:41.54 | fken | ok thanks |
| 14:42.03 | greycat | antgel: your nipples must be getting sore. |
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| 14:42.26 | fireba11 | ^^ |
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| 14:42.32 | antgel | greycat: i'll bite. wtf? |
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| 14:42.40 | greycat | !breastfeed fken |
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| 14:43.09 | fireba11 | greycat: head@table |
| 14:43.17 | antgel | greycat: he said thanks after you plonked him. not sure if he was thanking you or dpkg |
| 14:43.20 | greycat | antgel: fken asked dpkg for "nvidia" already, and it clearly said *right on the screen* ...or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. |
| 14:43.22 | resiak | greycat: [ 4044] recursive link found; bailing out. |
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| 14:43.53 | greycat | resiak: so it spams the bot's owner with warnings? |
| 14:43.53 | antgel | greycat: yeah and he's been here for days on and off. i just can't keep my eyes off the car crash. |
| 14:44.09 | fken | graycat yeah i see sorry hum module assistant told me that nvidia-kernel-source isnt in my source |
| 14:44.25 | antgel | greycat: look, he's new to debian, pulling in packages from everywhere, compiles and doesn't know how, and has bleeding-edge hardware. apart from that i like him. |
| 14:44.43 | atom-z | has anyone read about microsoft's proposed 'trusted computing'. 1984 here we come |
| 14:44.46 | resiak | greycat: Depends if s?he has warnings being emailed to h(im|er). I sure as hell don't. blootbot spews stuff. |
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| 14:45.00 | greycat | dpkg, forget qotd00 |
| 14:45.00 | dpkg | greycat: i forgot qotd00 |
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| 14:45.37 | Frostbite | Has anyone used the qos patches at adsl-optimizer.dk. Do you know if there's a 2.6.x version? |
| 14:45.40 | greycat | dpkg, no, qotd0 is <reply> see qotd(|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9) |
| 14:45.40 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 14:45.42 | Frostbite | *> |
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| 14:46.13 | greycat | dpkg, no, qotd0 is <reply> see qotd(|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9) |
| 14:46.13 | Frostbite | *? |
| 14:46.13 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
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| 14:46.40 | greycat | the odds of hitting the recursive qotd0 are 1 in 150 anyway. |
| 14:46.49 | greycat | shouldn't happen too often. |
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| 14:47.23 | greycat | lilo: they might be informed if they send a /msg and it gets ignored, but not on channel chatter |
| 14:47.25 | abrotman | !qotd00 |
| 14:47.28 | abrotman | sniff |
| 14:47.36 | greycat | abrotman: I removed it. it was much worse than ricky_clarkson's |
| 14:47.47 | abrotman | which was? |
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| 14:48.04 | aarkerio | should I activate the option "Frame buffer device" in my kernel menuconfig ? |
| 14:48.09 | greycat | the old qotd00 was qotd((|1)(|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)) |
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| 14:48.31 | abrotman | greycat: and? |
| 14:48.34 | aarkerio | for a desktop system |
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| 14:48.39 | antgel | aarkerio: why are you compiling a kernel if you don't know that? |
| 14:48.43 | greycat | and ricky_clarkson's (current qotd0) is much better. |
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| 14:48.59 | greycat | and the old qotd0 (1|2|3|...|135) had reached its limit. |
| 14:49.11 | abrotman | greycat: ah ok |
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| 14:49.20 | aarkerio | antgel:some people call it "learn process" |
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| 14:49.28 | resiak | I think we need a rand(1,135)-esque feature in blootbot. |
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| 14:49.37 | antgel | aarkerio: learn what process? |
| 14:49.47 | greycat | we had 7 qotd's that weren't even reachable because we couldn't add any more to the old qotd0 |
| 14:49.54 | greycat | resiak: would be nice. |
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| 14:49.59 | aarkerio | compiling your own kernel process |
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| 14:50.09 | resiak | greycat: Bug me later in the week. I have other evil Perl to write first. |
| 14:50.10 | greycat | resiak: and a conditional of some sort. |
| 14:50.21 | antgel | aarkerio: fine, but as i said before, what's the point? |
| 14:50.52 | abrotman | resiak: i don't have that on my system :) |
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| 14:51.05 | abrotman | resiak: could you also make blootbot work with pgsql ? |
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| 14:51.17 | Frostbite | If I manually apply this patch to a 2.6.x kernel, should I cause any problems? http://www.adsl-optimizer.dk/ADSL-optimizer/patches/kernel-2.4.29-overhead-htb.patch |
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| 14:51.25 | fireba11 | *wee* my new reciever was shipped today *can't wait' |
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| 14:51.46 | resiak | abrotman: It allegedly worked once. I'll have a bash. |
| 14:52.00 | aarkerio | I compiled my own kernel before, but I don't know if I missing something because I had never choosed "Activate Frame Buffer" |
| 14:52.06 | abrotman | resiak: ah ok .. maybe i shuld get the source and play with it .. though my perl-fu is weak |
| 14:52.09 | antgel | Frostbite: very doubtful. 2.4 and 2.6 are very different. |
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| 14:52.35 | syntaxx | what file do i need to check if i already add the module in blacklist and modules but it still loadin in boot time? |
| 14:52.36 | Frostbite | antgel, it changes a struct and a function which look identical to 2.4. |
| 14:52.47 | Frostbite | antgel, the struct doesn't change size |
| 14:52.54 | greycat | dpkg, qotd =~ s/ try qotd00// |
| 14:52.54 | antgel | Frostbite: so you answered your own question |
| 14:52.55 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 14:52.56 | resiak | abrotman: I'll do it, because I don't want to have mysql installed :) |
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| 14:53.15 | EdibleText | aarkerio, flip a coin and choose one or the other.. making mistakes is part of the learn process |
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| 14:53.18 | Frostbite | antgel, I just wanted to check |
| 14:53.20 | abrotman | resiak: yay.. is there a DB:class that you can use to have it allow any DB ? |
| 14:53.20 | greycat | syntaxx: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 14:53.27 | Frostbite | antgel, does it look like it'd cause problems? |
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| 14:53.38 | resiak | abrotman: Although I suspect that the cleanest way to do it might be to refactor blootbot's DB stuff into neat objects. Yes, Class::DBI, which is what I was just typing about. |
| 14:53.41 | resiak | :( |
| 14:53.41 | antgel | aarkerio: i don't know why you are wasting your time, but i suggest to you that kernel documentation lives in /usr/src/<kernel>/Documentation |
| 14:53.43 | abrotman | resiak: you know .. so i can use blootbot with oracle :) |
| 14:53.46 | resiak | !beer abrotman |
| 14:53.51 | abrotman | litre? |
| 14:53.51 | abrotman | wtf |
| 14:53.58 | antgel | does blootbot work with nvidia? |
| 14:54.01 | aarkerio | ok |
| 14:54.05 | abrotman | can we get the old beer back? |
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| 14:54.22 | greycat | who sells beer by the litre |
| 14:54.23 | greycat | ? |
| 14:54.29 | resiak | greycat: The French. |
| 14:54.38 | fireba11 | wtf is yuengling lager ? sounds german but i'm german and never heared of it ^^ |
| 14:54.40 | EdibleText | s/litre/quart mason jar |
| 14:54.42 | greycat | they drink beer? at all? |
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| 14:54.45 | KUdoZERo | HI up... my apt says that requires kdelibs > 3.4 How could I repair it? Thanks |
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| 14:54.57 | greycat | KUdoZERo: /msg dpkg sid |
| 14:55.00 | cahoot | greycat: quite good beer too |
| 14:55.03 | kspath | 1.06 litre == 1 English measure quart |
| 14:55.06 | streuner | fireba11: Lager, but 'Yuengling'? |
| 14:55.08 | abrotman | cahoot: what is ? |
| 14:55.18 | abrotman | streuner: it's for me .. it's made about an hour from my place :) |
| 14:55.21 | greycat | kspath: cira 0.95 liter = 1 US quart |
| 14:55.24 | greycat | circa* |
| 14:55.27 | resiak | greycat: Some French beer is actually quite good. |
| 14:55.31 | kspath | greycat: hehehe |
| 14:55.32 | resiak | jethro: Tell greycat about your beer! |
| 14:55.34 | fireba11 | streuner: mybe "Jüngling" with a typo ? :-) |
| 14:55.42 | EdibleText | abrotman, cans or bottles? |
| 14:55.42 | abrotman | Triple van Westmalle |
| 14:55.48 | cahoot | abrotman: see resiaks comment |
| 14:55.49 | streuner | fireba11: never heard of it... |
| 14:55.50 | antgel | Frostbite: if it applies cleanly it's likely to have a similar effect in 2.4 and 2.6 |
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| 14:55.58 | abrotman | EdibleText: uhm .. i think it comes in both .. but i've only ever had bottle or draught |
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| 14:56.06 | fireba11 | streuner: me2 but that would be a german word ^^ |
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| 14:56.13 | kspath | maybe my brain flipped it |
| 14:56.21 | abrotman | fireba11: it's brewed in PA.us .. Yuengling .. america's oldest brewery |
| 14:56.21 | clem_yeats | resiaK : which one ? I'm French and I don't particularly think we make nice beer. |
| 14:56.23 | jethro | resiak: about westmalle? |
| 14:56.24 | kspath | 1 litre = 1.06 quarts |
| 14:56.29 | abrotman | EdibleText: that's just gross :) |
| 14:56.33 | Frostbite | antgel, ok I'll try it thank you |
| 14:56.36 | greycat | kspath: *nod* |
| 14:56.45 | fireba11 | abrotman: *boo* at least use a good beer's name *g* |
| 14:56.53 | EdibleText | abrotman, the cans have a better flavor. really.. summers of tree surfing can attest |
| 14:56.54 | greycat | You have: 1 liter |
| 14:56.54 | greycat | You want: quarts |
| 14:56.54 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:57.14 | abrotman | fireba11: it's a good beer .. not truly a lager afaik .. but they call it Yuengling Lager .. and even beeradvocate.com gives it a good ratin |
| 14:57.16 | EdibleText | abrotman, plus you can bring them to the delaware |
| 14:57.17 | abrotman | rating |
| 14:57.19 | antgel | greycat: btw if you like my bug so much, feel free to put your tuppence in. the more the merrier. |
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| 14:57.27 | abrotman | EdibleText: i don't go to the delaware much |
| 14:57.30 | antgel | !bugs 325655 |
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| 14:57.34 | dpkg | #325655:W[www.debian.org] Help us to help ourselves |
| 14:57.35 | fireba11 | hehe .. we got 6k inhabitants and 6 breweries (<- is that spelled correctly ?) |
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| 14:57.43 | greycat | antgel: it's already got about 11 cents worth of text in it... I'll wait and see how it's received ;-) |
| 14:57.50 | KUdoZERo | I'm preparing my wedding trip. Any suggestion? |
| 14:57.55 | EdibleText | abrotman, oh .. the feds frown on bottles (while canoeing) |
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| 14:58.19 | EagleCros | KUdoZERo: switch to root, and then type "halt" |
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| 14:58.34 | abrotman | EdibleText: duh :) |
| 14:58.42 | EdibleText | abrotman, heh |
| 14:58.43 | kspath | greycat: I memorized what skool required though I memorized 3.1415926536 because 3.14 is not enough |
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| 14:58.44 | abrotman | fireba11: can you say .. alcoholic |
| 14:58.56 | EdibleText | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:59.45 | resiak | clem_yeats: Notice that I said "quite good" :) I can't really remember... I just know that when I'm in France I rarely drink beer I actively dislike. |
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| 14:59.51 | fireba11 | abrotman: no .. just small breweries .. about every village got its own brand of beer around here *g* |
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| 14:59.57 | EdibleText | KUdoZERo, sarge |
| 14:59.59 | greycat | kspath: I only memorized it out to 3.14159265 |
| 15:00.12 | KUdoZERo | jsjsjsj EdibleText , EagleCros :D |
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| 15:00.28 | KUdoZERo | What do you mean EdibleText |
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| 15:00.42 | EdibleText | KUdoZERo, you want stable |
| 15:00.50 | fireba11 | abrotman: the area of ym town got about 140k inhabitants and i think about 70 small brands of beer |
| 15:00.51 | KUdoZERo | Yes. |
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| 15:00.59 | KUdoZERo | But I don't know how to change back to stable. |
| 15:01.07 | KUdoZERo | I can change sources.list. |
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| 15:01.11 | KUdoZERo | but my apt-con.d |
| 15:01.19 | clem_yeats | resiak : yes, they're not bad, but none of them has that unique taste.. do you usually visit Paris ? |
| 15:01.32 | KUdoZERo | don't "contains =unstable"... line |
| 15:01.33 | majnoon | on regular cd's what the minimum needed to install ?? |
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| 15:01.56 | QU1M3RA | hi |
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| 15:02.11 | QU1M3RA | i have one ask about the debian install |
| 15:02.17 | majnoon | on regular cd's what the MINMUM needed to install ?? |
| 15:02.17 | fireba11 | ah anyway .. will go home in 5 mins so cu u guys tomorrow *g* |
| 15:02.39 | EagleCros | QU1M3RA: are you from Spain? |
| 15:02.39 | fireba11 | to install what ? |
| 15:02.48 | QU1M3RA | debian |
| 15:02.49 | QU1M3RA | os |
| 15:02.50 | abrotman | fireba11: can i move there? |
| 15:02.54 | fireba11 | hehe |
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| 15:03.10 | abrotman | telia is .au afaik |
| 15:03.10 | QU1M3RA | is the ubuntu metod same or diferent ! |
| 15:03.17 | QU1M3RA | iam in telia |
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| 15:03.21 | QU1M3RA | sweden |
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| 15:03.24 | fireba11 | abrotman: sure .. area is called "Franken" .. that's the northern part of Bavaria, Germany :-) |
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| 15:03.37 | fireba11 | cu tomorrow |
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| 15:04.03 | streuner | QU1M3RA: How should we know? |
| 15:04.17 | EagleCros | streuner: i asked him if he was frm Spain |
| 15:04.22 | streuner | QU1M3RA: ubuntu uses the debian-installer, IIRC |
| 15:04.35 | QU1M3RA | is easy installation debian =ubuntu instal or dificult =gentoo =slackware ? |
| 15:04.50 | resiak | clem_yeats: No, usually a town called Forcalquier, which is about 2 hours' drive from Marseille. |
| 15:05.00 | resiak | clem_yeats: My dad's partner lives there, you see. |
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| 15:05.04 | streuner | abrotman: teila is sweden |
| 15:05.06 | abrotman | QU1M3RA: same installer .. just try it |
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| 15:05.08 | quitte | is easy installation =nt4 me thinks |
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| 15:05.12 | abrotman | streuner: telia |
| 15:05.19 | abrotman | !d-i QU1M3RA |
| 15:05.19 | QU1M3RA | same =ubuntu ? |
| 15:05.20 | streuner | yes |
| 15:05.22 | dpkg | QU1M3RA, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 15:05.43 | clem_yeats | resiak : sounds nice. They enjoy pastis over there :) |
| 15:05.50 | abrotman | i really thought telia was .au .. oh well |
| 15:06.04 | QU1M3RA | telia is my internet conection |
| 15:06.08 | QU1M3RA | is in sweden |
| 15:06.11 | cahoot | abrotman: thinking of telus? |
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| 15:06.53 | QU1M3RA | thinking is my friend |
| 15:07.02 | QU1M3RA | www.thinking-online.com |
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| 15:07.18 | tk-1 | does anyone know a email client for debian |
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| 15:07.31 | abrotman | cahoot: perhaps |
| 15:07.32 | antgel | !tell tk-1 about anyone |
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| 15:07.49 | abrotman | tk-1: packages.debian.org/stable/mail/ |
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| 15:08.07 | guillaume_ | hi all |
| 15:08.12 | resiak | tk-1: No. What's email? |
| 15:08.26 | abrotman | resiak: duh .. like telegraph for the 1980s! |
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| 15:08.52 | guillaume_ | i have a dell poweredge with an administration web interface, and i don't have keyboard support. Do you know how to hack this ? |
| 15:09.18 | QU1M3RA | i need the same link for download a debian sarge in spanish do you have a link man ? |
| 15:09.22 | QU1M3RA | :) |
| 15:09.33 | abrotman | !d-i QU1M3RA |
| 15:09.33 | dpkg | QU1M3RA, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:09.52 | streuner | QU1M3RA: somebody told you already, are you 'learn-resistent'? |
| 15:10.05 | abrotman | QU1M3RA: http://www.es.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/index.es.html |
| 15:10.07 | guillaume_ | (i read long time ago that it require a kernel feature) |
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| 15:10.37 | QU1M3RA | sure but the problen is iam american i dont speak swedish im in sweden when i open the link read in swedish |
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| 15:10.56 | QU1M3RA | :( |
| 15:11.10 | QU1M3RA | i need a link in english or spanish ! |
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| 15:11.22 | antgel | guillaume_: google it? |
| 15:11.28 | QU1M3RA | tks |
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| 15:11.32 | abrotman | QU1M3RA: http://www.es.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/index.es.html |
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| 15:11.36 | abrotman | SEE IT?!? |
| 15:11.41 | phaedral | hi all |
| 15:11.42 | guillaume_ | antgel: i try a litle but i did no re-find it |
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| 15:11.45 | abrotman | it's in spanish! |
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| 15:11.52 | antgel | guillaume_: try a lot, not a little! |
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| 15:11.57 | QU1M3RA | thks |
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| 15:12.06 | antgel | guillaume_: what model server? did you try to install yet? |
| 15:12.19 | guillaume_ | antgel: Dell PowerEdge 750 |
| 15:12.38 | petemc | the only web interface for dells i know is omawsd |
| 15:12.41 | guillaume_ | it works perfectly but i want to have keyboard support in the web interface |
| 15:12.44 | guillaume_ | anapivirtua: |
| 15:12.47 | guillaume_ | antgel: |
| 15:13.00 | guillaume_ | anapivirtua: sorry |
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| 15:13.18 | antgel | guillaume_: i don't know what the web interface is. |
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| 15:13.38 | guillaume_ | antgel: on Dell servers, there is an administration NIC |
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| 15:14.02 | QU1M3RA | the debian are 14 cd ?? |
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| 15:14.15 | lilgg | QU1M3RA yeap |
| 15:14.18 | guillaume_ | antgel: and there is an https interface to reboot the server, see the console, etc... |
| 15:14.19 | Feyr-Wrk | that administration card cost 500$ guillaume_ |
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| 15:14.26 | lilgg | QU1M3RA debian sarge that is |
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| 15:14.30 | antgel | i swear these types of servers are for companies with more money than sense |
| 15:14.32 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: maybe, but i have one |
| 15:14.46 | abrotman | QU1M3RA: use the netinst |
| 15:14.52 | abrotman | QU1M3RA: /j #debian-es |
| 15:14.59 | QU1M3RA | gracias |
| 15:15.01 | QU1M3RA | tks |
| 15:15.01 | antgel | guillaume_: just ssh in if you need to reboot |
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| 15:15.24 | Feyr-Wrk | ah nm, i misread the thing. yeah sometimes the keyboard get stuck |
| 15:15.29 | guillaume_ | antgel: so, this is my problem |
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| 15:15.56 | Feyr-Wrk | you just need to keep resetting to get it. alternatively, i had better luck with the telnet interface than the web one. it's off by default, but the instructions for enabling it are easy to find on google |
| 15:15.58 | antgel | guillaume_: try ##linux if you think it's a kernel module that you need to insert |
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| 15:16.02 | phaedral | hostname new_name didn't persist on reboot; clues? |
| 15:16.04 | guillaume_ | antgel: i have changed the shell for root, and maybe i did a mistake, because i cant conenct to my server trough ssh |
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| 15:16.12 | guillaume_ | antgel: ok |
| 15:16.14 | antgel | guillaume_: Feyr-Wrk seems to know his stuff |
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| 15:16.29 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: do you know /knew ? |
| 15:16.30 | Feyr-Wrk | meh, i just spent 2 weeks fighting with that damn interface :) |
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| 15:17.22 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: ok, do you remember the name of the module/the support to add ? |
| 15:17.34 | Feyr-Wrk | there's no module, it's a straight serial console |
| 15:17.53 | guillaume_ | i don't have a serial console |
| 15:18.00 | guillaume_ | the server is very far away |
| 15:18.07 | guillaume_ | (not very, but far) |
| 15:18.10 | Feyr-Wrk | not directly, but the drac card emulates one |
| 15:18.25 | guillaume_ | ok, so i need to add serial support ? |
| 15:18.44 | Feyr-Wrk | hm actually, no. |
| 15:19.13 | guillaume_ | i am listenning to you so |
| 15:19.13 | Feyr-Wrk | however, you need to disable the framebuffer |
| 15:19.20 | guillaume_ | yes it is |
| 15:19.54 | guillaume_ | i don't have fb support |
| 15:19.54 | Feyr-Wrk | that's all there is to it. the card will redirect the vga output and keyboard to a "virtual" serial port and lets you connect to that |
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| 15:20.11 | Feyr-Wrk | but as i said, using the java console, the keyboard get stuck 19 times out of 20 |
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| 15:21.31 | Feyr-Wrk | here's the link to enable the telnet server http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2003-November/011654.html |
| 15:21.40 | Feyr-Wrk | it's a bit tricky to use at first, but it does the job |
| 15:22.03 | guillaume_ | thanks a lot |
| 15:22.29 | Feyr-Wrk | np |
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| 15:23.16 | js_xir | is there any pdflib integration for php/perl/c in debian? |
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| 15:25.29 | Lee__ | js_xir: there's a php4-ps module. |
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| 15:25.56 | js_xir | php4-ps is pdflib? |
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| 15:27.18 | mischko | Is there a system performance monitoring tool for Linux that works like mrtg and monitors system activity as well as network activity? |
| 15:27.47 | docelic | mischko, this is just a matter of writing script that feeds data to mrtg |
| 15:28.00 | Feyr-Wrk | there's rrdcollect you can hack to do that sort of stuff mischko |
| 15:28.04 | mischko | docelic, I'm after something already done. |
| 15:28.25 | mischko | someone has probably already done it. |
| 15:28.31 | docelic | mischko, well, search the web for such scripts.. mrtg accepts a specific format and anything producing it will do |
| 15:28.44 | Feyr-Wrk | well there's zabbix that will do it for remote servers, but i've had bad luck with it. it consumes too much ressources |
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| 15:29.09 | DaDave | hi all |
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| 15:29.39 | DaDave | i wanted to share my current desktop over the net. i tried krfb, but it runs very slow. is there some settings that i might have missed to set? |
| 15:29.43 | mischko | thanks for the tips. I'll dig further. |
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| 15:30.29 | Frostbite | DaDave, krfb is a high bandwidth protocol. What connection do you have? |
| 15:30.36 | ryanakca | does anyone know of handwriting recognition for debian that works in with GNOME? |
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| 15:30.52 | docelic | ryanakca, that's called OCR |
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| 15:31.36 | elTigre | can somebody help me configure my laptop for Xorg? |
| 15:31.43 | DaDave | Frostbite: i got a 11mbit conection |
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| 15:31.52 | Frostbite | DaDave, no upload |
| 15:31.53 | elTigre | it has a 1280x800@60 resolution in windows |
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| 15:32.10 | elTigre | but debconf does not give me this option... |
| 15:32.43 | DaDave | Frostbite: it's a locael area network. |
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| 15:33.23 | Frostbite | DaDave, 11mbit wireless? |
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| 15:33.44 | Frostbite | DaDave, as root type iwconfig. what speed is listed? |
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| 15:33.57 | syntaxx | where will i find the modules that being loaded at boot? |
| 15:34.02 | thingfish | I have a question about BTS. How do the maintainers know how severe (in terms of how many people experience the undesired behavior) a given bug is? |
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| 15:35.05 | DaDave | Frostbite: the server is connnected by wire to the WLAN-Station and the client is a notebook with tightenvnc as client on it. the notebook runs at exactly 11mbps... |
| 15:35.10 | posted | hey guys, i have a small issue i'm wondering about. i host two domain names, /etc/mailname is set to one of them so every outgoing mail is set as @myfirstdomainname.com but i'd like peoples using other accounts to be @theseconddomainname.com. Anyone please ? |
| 15:35.34 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: erm, sorry, but this is the same, i can't use keyboard |
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| 15:35.41 | antgel | thingfish: they don't. see recent discussion on d-s about the shorewall bug that isn't a bug |
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| 15:35.55 | thingfish | antgel: ok, thanks. |
| 15:35.59 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: but this is really good to know that telnet works on RBAC |
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| 15:36.11 | TwistedEmotions | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.16 | antgel | thingfish: could also /j #debian-bugs |
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| 15:36.27 | thingfish | oh neat! yes, thanks antgel. |
| 15:36.28 | Frostbite | DaDave, I recommend you try tightvnc as the server as the bandwidth req is much lower. try opening the man page for the viewer and increasing the compression ration/decreasing the depth. 11mbit should be fine |
| 15:36.43 | Feyr-Wrk | guillaume_, try a hard reset. as i said, it gets stuck. much less in telnet, but still a bit |
| 15:36.56 | TwistedEmotions | I basically need /usr/src/linux/include to point the RIGHT kernel header version... |
| 15:37.03 | Kasha | Hi, anybody setups LDAP+pam_ldap+nss_ldap ? |
| 15:37.17 | Frostbite | I'm getting 8 ips from my adsl isp. What's the best option for my fw/gateway, iproute2, many:many nat or bridging? |
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| 15:37.39 | antgel | we just got another support contract. we'll be making money soon. :D shame it's a windows-only network. :( |
| 15:37.45 | antgel | !champagne antgel |
| 15:37.52 | antgel | !caviar antgel |
| 15:37.53 | syntaxx | where will i find the modules that being loaded at boot? |
| 15:38.21 | antgel | syntaxx: /etc/modules. from your various questions i think you should read the debian reference and get a good book on linux. |
| 15:38.27 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: erm, i can't reboot the server, i can just reinitialyse it |
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| 15:38.43 | syntaxx | thanks antgel |
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| 15:38.52 | antgel | !tell Kasha about anyone |
| 15:38.57 | Feyr-Wrk | production server? |
| 15:38.59 | posted | hey guys, i have a small issue i'm wondering about. i host two domain names, /etc/mailname is set to one of them so every outgoing mail is set as @myfirstdomainname.com but i'd like peoples using other accounts to be @theseconddomainname.com. Anyone please ? |
| 15:39.02 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: no non |
| 15:39.16 | foXclone | why isn't the apt-file search working n e more |
| 15:39.27 | DaDave | Frostbite: can i use tightenserver to share my current runnig x11 session? |
| 15:39.40 | Frostbite | DaDave, try |
| 15:39.41 | tinker | foxclone: apt-cache search |
| 15:39.41 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: but the card offer me to reinitialise or to "disabled" it |
| 15:39.46 | antgel | !tell Kasha about msg |
| 15:39.59 | antgel | !tell Kasha about ask |
| 15:40.06 | guillaume_ | foXclone: apt-file update |
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| 15:40.10 | DaDave | Frostbite: okay thanks so far... |
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| 15:40.19 | Frostbite | DaDave, np |
| 15:40.57 | Feyr-Wrk | try this |
| 15:41.07 | Feyr-Wrk | in the telnet console type: racadm serveraction powercycle |
| 15:41.19 | SimonRaven | posted: header rewriting. exim does it, dunno if postfix does |
| 15:41.25 | foXclone | guillaume_ : sh: culr: command not found |
| 15:41.35 | SimonRaven | probably does, but dunno enough about it |
| 15:41.40 | guillaume_ | foXclone: apt-get install curl |
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| 15:41.48 | guillaume_ | foXclone: and thaht's all :þ |
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| 15:42.07 | posted | SimonRaven, ok, thanks, will have a look at it |
| 15:42.08 | docelic | Kasha, I found http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/ very informative |
| 15:42.16 | foXclone | guillaume_ : sweet |
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| 15:42.26 | ecliptik | is there a quick way to create dirs with incremental numbers in one command? like logs1, logs2, logs3.... ? |
| 15:42.28 | guillaume_ | foXclone: you're welcome |
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| 15:42.56 | Feyr-Wrk | for i in `seq 1 1000`; do mkdir $i; done |
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| 15:45.15 | opt- | Hi, anyone know if it's possible to stop shell users from editing their bash_history file? |
| 15:45.15 | antgel | i have a sarge dhcpd with option domain-name "wayforth.local". however clients report hostname -d as localdomain. |
| 15:45.19 | Blissex | ecliptik: either as Feyr-Wrk says, or many other ways; for example use "DIR`print %03d $i`" to have the numbers zero filled. |
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| 15:45.39 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: ok, but i think i don't add keyboard support in my kernel |
| 15:45.40 | guillaume_ | :s |
| 15:45.45 | ecliptik | alrite coo, thanks guys |
| 15:46.04 | Feyr-Wrk | you mean there's no keyboard support at all? :) |
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| 15:46.15 | antgel | as does dnsdomainname. wtf? |
| 15:46.21 | Feyr-Wrk | i think that would do it yeah :P i didn't think the kernel would boot at all without keyboard support heh |
| 15:46.22 | Kasha | docelic, debian sarge : support (shadow: files ldap) in /etc/nsswitch.conf ??? |
| 15:46.30 | SimonRaven | posted: you can do really fancy shit like rewrite on sub-domains, different domains, etc. |
| 15:46.47 | Blissex | lots of standalone servers dont have keyboards... |
| 15:46.53 | docelic | Kasha, what with it ? |
| 15:46.55 | Feyr-Wrk | nm that, the kernel will boot. it will crash if there's no keyboard controller though :P or did last time i tried |
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| 15:47.06 | Rewt_s | how do I get the compat-libs for c++? |
| 15:47.07 | Rewt_s | libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 15:47.14 | Rewt_s | that's the error I am getting |
| 15:47.23 | SimonRaven | Kasha: if you're going to have it that way, you'll also need to set passwd: and group: |
| 15:47.28 | Feyr-Wrk | no keyboard is fine docelic. no keyboard controller is something else heh |
| 15:47.44 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: but before, ssh works perfectly |
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| 15:47.49 | Kasha | SimonRaven, ok , thx |
| 15:47.51 | SimonRaven | antgel: dnsdomainame fetches info from sysctl too |
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| 15:47.54 | Feyr-Wrk | yeah, ssh doesn't use the keyboard |
| 15:47.56 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: no matter, i'll try this |
| 15:48.02 | Feyr-Wrk | the drac card emulates a physical keyboard |
| 15:48.03 | SimonRaven | dnsdomainname even |
| 15:48.04 | guillaume_ | Feyr-Wrk: that's true |
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| 15:48.27 | keir_ | ive set up my debian install to read my windows XP (ntfs) partition, as root i can do this, but i dont have the right permissions to do so as a normal user, how do i change this? |
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| 15:48.30 | antgel | SimonRaven: hostname --fqdn is localhost.localdomain. have no idea when this broke. |
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| 15:48.46 | SimonRaven | ick |
| 15:49.02 | SimonRaven | pylon.kisikew.org |
| 15:49.08 | SimonRaven | ;p |
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| 15:49.49 | nekron- | my msn with tk8.4 is broken.. but with the 8.3 no problems.. |
| 15:49.58 | nekron- | someone can help me? |
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| 15:50.06 | GmLB | Is it safe to stop parted from resizing a reiserfs partition when it's not yet completed? It has way too long left for me to wait it out "shrinking... 5% (time left 6356:44) "? |
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| 15:50.37 | SimonRaven | er, i wouldn't do it unless you don't mind having a fucked HDD |
| 15:50.42 | Feyr-Wrk | i dont think so GmLB |
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| 15:50.49 | antgel | GmLB: fucking risky. but don't worry, you can always restore from backup |
| 15:50.50 | skate | GmLB: that is generally a bad idea |
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| 15:51.16 | GmLB | skate, I figured as much, so what happens if It crashes, or I lose power?? |
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| 15:51.19 | nekron- | my amsn with tk8.4 is broken.. but with the 8.3 no problems.. |
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| 15:51.31 | GmLB | antgel, Cute. |
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| 15:52.11 | crn | what's the debian way to install the (a? )java plugin for mozilla? |
| 15:52.12 | SimonRaven | nekron-: simple: use .3 |
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| 15:53.04 | nekron- | SimonRaven, but with 8.3 the amsn cant go to systry.. |
| 15:53.06 | SimonRaven | !mozilla java |
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| 15:53.06 | dpkg | and <java licensing> First, read <install java>. Now go to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and make a symlink to /usr/local/jwhatever//plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so (and repeat this procedure for every web browser you have installed). |
| 15:53.15 | greycat | er? |
| 15:53.17 | SimonRaven | crn: ^^^ |
| 15:53.31 | SimonRaven | nekron-: systry? |
| 15:53.35 | crn | SimonRaven, thanks |
| 15:53.47 | nekron- | yes, near of clock.. |
| 15:53.48 | SimonRaven | hmm seems a bit fucked |
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| 15:55.14 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.45 | SimonRaven | i'd go for mediawiki. seems it has better security and anti-spam options |
| 15:55.54 | SimonRaven | i use twiki personally |
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| 15:56.39 | samuel | anyone know the name of a decent hex viewer? |
| 15:56.50 | xerophyte | SimonRaven, mediawiki better security ??? i mean it does not even have ACL stuff but moinmoin has acl control can you explain why is mediawiki is better with security |
| 15:56.51 | samuel | there seems to be quite a few |
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| 15:57.10 | SimonRaven | xerophyte: my bad then i thought it did |
| 15:57.17 | NSK | mediawiki doesn't have good security |
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| 15:58.02 | greycat | xerophyte: try both and judge. |
| 15:58.12 | __filip_ | will this guide work in debian? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 |
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| 15:58.52 | Lee__ | !based on debian |
| 15:58.53 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 15:58.56 | samuel | xerophyte, you thought about pmwiki ? there is another option for you |
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| 15:59.10 | greycat | I think that <mozilla java> factoid's not "correct" for sarge. |
| 15:59.11 | SimonRaven | yeh, best way is to try them. that's why i stick to twiki, it's got plugins too. and acls you can set up whatever you want.. |
| 15:59.12 | xerophyte | samuel, lol :) |
| 15:59.29 | ralf | -Lindows |
| 15:59.32 | ralf | +Linspire |
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| 15:59.54 | xerophyte | greycat, these has hidden stuff its really hard to try both and judge :) i wanna know from someone alreayd been there .. dont wanna reinvent the wheel |
| 16:00.10 | greycat | xerophyte: I doubt anyone has used BOTH of them to give you a comparison. |
| 16:00.32 | __filip_ | will it work in debian even if it made for ubuntu? is it someone that have try it? |
| 16:00.55 | SimonRaven | @distribution |
| 16:00.55 | ravenbird | rumour has it, distribution is a collection of goodies built around a kernel like Linux |
| 16:01.02 | SimonRaven | bah, horrid |
| 16:01.10 | SimonRaven | @factinfo distribution |
| 16:01.11 | ravenbird | distribution -- it has been requested once, last by SimonRaven, 16s ago. |
| 16:01.17 | SimonRaven | too old... |
| 16:01.18 | samuel | xerophyte, well you are in luck then! cause there are more wikis than there are wheels on a train! |
| 16:01.26 | SimonRaven | heheh |
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| 16:01.46 | SimonRaven | there's even local fs driven wikis... |
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| 16:01.58 | SimonRaven | or wiki-like apps |
| 16:02.07 | greycat | or *gasp* he could try one! |
| 16:02.15 | SimonRaven | *amazing!* |
| 16:02.34 | keir_ | ive set up my debian install to read my windows XP (ntfs) partition, as root i can do this, but i dont have the right permissions to do so as a normal user, how do i change this? |
| 16:02.59 | nekron- | keir_, chmod.. |
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| 16:03.01 | petemc | keir_: umask=022 |
| 16:03.04 | petemc | nekron-: no |
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| 16:03.11 | antgel | !tell xerophyte about compare |
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| 16:03.21 | samuel | xerophyte, if you want an app i suggest tomboy - its very good so long as you are ready to kill mono from time to time when it starts using up 1.4GB of memory |
| 16:03.23 | SimonRaven | this is how i know that most CMSes suck eggs |
| 16:03.27 | greycat | keir_: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 16:03.30 | nekron- | petemc, umask i use in fstab.. hehe |
| 16:03.38 | greycat | keir_: /msg dpkg user accessible ntfs |
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| 16:04.45 | SimonRaven | ok, now to get the html char entities for these cree chracters... oh boy, the whole syllabary to do... oh well, it'll get done at least =) |
| 16:05.11 | keir_ | greycat, dpkg isnt responing :( |
| 16:05.16 | greycat | bullshit. |
| 16:05.22 | kspath | bricolage sucks eggs? |
| 16:05.33 | petemc | greycat: its saying about unregistered users |
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| 16:05.35 | greycat | and you block CTCP VERSION so I can't tell you why. |
| 16:05.39 | SimonRaven | ah beautiful, this thing has them easy to hand |
| 16:05.41 | antgel | !compare |
| 16:05.41 | dpkg | methinks compare is something that only you can decide on, or google for it. a million people have already asked. |
| 16:05.42 | petemc | petemc(+Ei) |
| 16:05.49 | antgel | dpkg is alive and kicking |
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| 16:05.56 | SimonRaven | +Eeiw |
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| 16:06.12 | greycat | macdonald(+EieIo) |
| 16:06.18 | petemc | keir_: all you need us umask=022 anyway |
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| 16:06.36 | keir_ | ty petemc |
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| 16:07.28 | SimonRaven | oh nice even aliases... :) |
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| 16:12.54 | bimmerd00d | hi guys |
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| 16:14.00 | Hamled|Erp | Shouldn't I be able to configure exim with dpkg-reconfigure exim4? |
| 16:14.15 | greycat | one would have thought so, but no. they decided that would be too easy. |
| 16:14.23 | greycat | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 16:14.23 | Hamled|Erp | oh, well then |
| 16:14.27 | Hamled|Erp | thanks |
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| 16:15.17 | parityflag | hello... |
| 16:15.19 | EtherNet_Work | hello everybody, I need a little help, I am running exim, and I need to authenticate against another smtp server, passwd.client is done... how do I enable it ? |
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| 16:15.43 | atom-z | when trying to debootstrap an etch chroot, i get the following error: "W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times." |
| 16:15.47 | clem_yeats | hi, what's the best way to install java (JDK) on a Sarge ? |
| 16:16.02 | parityflag | any idea when a new k3b package will be compiled? I accidentally did a dist-upgrade, and it's broken now (C++ ABI transition...) |
| 16:16.05 | antgel | !topicsmite clem_yeats |
| 16:16.06 | parityflag | ? |
| 16:16.06 | greycat | clem_yeats: /msg dpkg java |
| 16:16.07 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon clem_yeats. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 16:16.10 | atom-z | how can this be fixed? |
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| 16:16.18 | meff | why are the nvidia-kernel-source pkgs so far behind in sid? |
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| 16:16.43 | greycat | dpkg, why do the nvidia-kernel-source packages in sid suck so much? |
| 16:16.44 | dpkg | Because the Kleenex elf hates the nvidia-kernel-source packages in sid. |
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| 16:16.54 | skate | how do you accidentally dist-upgrade? |
| 16:16.55 | samuel | hte is quite a nice hex editor! i think ill keep it! |
| 16:17.14 | skate | you accidentally edited sources.list and then accidentally typed "apt-get dist-upgrade" and hit enter? |
| 16:17.24 | greycat | and accidentally confirmed |
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| 16:17.33 | skate | yeah that too |
| 16:17.34 | Hamled|Erp | the cat was on the keyboard again :( |
| 16:17.48 | thingfish | hey, you get stoned enough... |
| 16:18.15 | skate | thingfish: when i am sitting at my terminal i am usually blazed out of my mind, and i have never done anything ridiculous like that. |
| 16:18.24 | thingfish | hehe skate |
| 16:18.28 | clem_yeats | thanks |
| 16:18.43 | AciD | anybody got a gpg-agent with its debian ? |
| 16:18.46 | Hamled|Erp | man, it's like.. mail systems are the bane of my existance, as it pertains to system administration |
| 16:18.48 | parityflag | ... |
| 16:18.54 | samuel | thingfish, no, then you would be looking at goom on totem and listening to whatever is newest of paul van dyk |
| 16:18.59 | AciD | dpkg seems to know nothing about the issue |
| 16:19.12 | clem_yeats | another question... is there a package for Eclipse ? |
| 16:19.15 | parityflag | I do a apt-get dist-upgrade on my unstable sometimes, but I didnt know about C++ ABI transition... |
| 16:19.17 | thingfish | samuel: you must know me - I'm a big house fan. |
| 16:19.23 | samuel | thingfish, :) |
| 16:19.24 | thingfish | and I love goom |
| 16:19.26 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:19.27 | greycat | !sidsmite parityflag |
| 16:19.42 | parityflag | :/ |
| 16:19.45 | greycat | !d-d-a |
| 16:19.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, d-d-a is debian-devel-announce, the list that major Debian developments are posted to. It's less than one message a day, so Testing and Sid users have no excuse not to be on it and read it. Sign up at http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 16:19.47 | Hamled|Erp | clem_yeats, yes, a couple, ecplise-* |
| 16:20.02 | parityflag | grepper: yeayea I subscribed there now. but it's too late :P |
| 16:20.03 | SimonRaven | FYI, this is what i was talking about earlier WRT syllabics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Cree_syllabics |
| 16:20.17 | clem_yeats | Hamled|Erp : I'm using stable sarge.. I couldn't find any with aptitude search eclipse |
| 16:20.22 | SerajewelKS | wtf... i installed a blootbot for another channel, and it's "updating debian files" -- how do i remove this module? |
| 16:20.33 | Hamled|Erp | clem_yeats, well in that case, I dunno |
| 16:20.34 | jethro | SerajewelKS: utsl |
| 16:20.41 | parityflag | argh, fuking tab |
| 16:20.54 | clem_yeats | Hamled|Erp : are you using etch ? |
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| 16:21.04 | SerajewelKS | jethro, that's really helpful... |
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| 16:21.13 | samuel | clem_yeats, its just java, get the java-package package and put eclipse in your home dir |
| 16:21.18 | SerajewelKS | jethro, you ever looked at blootbot's sources? |
| 16:21.18 | atom-z | so, err... how can i fix my broken chroot, with its mega-broken .deb dependencies? |
| 16:21.24 | Hamled|Erp | clem_yeats, err etch? |
| 16:21.29 | jethro | SerajewelKS: yes, I even hacked it up a bit |
| 16:21.35 | parityflag | greycat: any idea? can I downgrade? |
| 16:21.40 | clem_yeats | samuel : ok. |
| 16:21.51 | jethro | ~wtf wtf |
| 16:21.53 | SerajewelKS | jethro, good for you. i don't have that kind of time. are you saying there's no configuration directivefor this? |
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| 16:22.04 | jethro | SerajewelKS: wtf is mine:) |
| 16:22.13 | Hamled|Erp | so guys, every time now, when I install a package, apt complains that it can't authenticate the package... what's causing it, or better yet, what can I do to fix it? |
| 16:22.14 | jethro | SerajewelKS: blootbot is not much documented.. |
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| 16:22.45 | SerajewelKS | jethro, "wtf is mine"... wtf? |
| 16:22.48 | clem_yeats | Hamled|Erp : I mean the testing branch|release.. |
| 16:22.59 | Hamled|Erp | ohhhh |
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| 16:23.01 | greycat | SerajewelKS: w can be who, what, why or where |
| 16:23.02 | Hamled|Erp | I thought you meant a package |
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| 16:23.08 | greycat | maybe even when |
| 16:23.10 | EdibleText | when? |
| 16:23.11 | SerajewelKS | greycat, that's not what i mean |
| 16:23.17 | EtherNet_Work | hello everybody, I need a little help, I am running exim, and I need to authenticate against another smtp server, passwd.client is done... how do I enable it ? |
| 16:23.28 | SerajewelKS | greycat, he said "wtf is mine" and i have no idea wtf he means by that |
| 16:23.29 | Hamled|Erp | clem_yeats, no, I'm using unstable |
| 16:23.29 | greycat | ask #exim |
| 16:23.32 | samuel | jethro, isnt that abit of an understatement? |
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| 16:23.44 | jethro | samuel: what? |
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| 16:23.56 | clem_yeats | Hamled|Erp : does KDE 3.4 works in unstable ? |
| 16:23.57 | Gathond | SerajewelKS: iirc there is a directive in the blootbot default configuration file regarding the debian commands, unless thats just the ancient CVS snapshot I started with that has that |
| 16:23.57 | samuel | jethro, "blootbot is not much documented" |
| 16:24.03 | jethro | samuel: :) |
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| 16:24.25 | SerajewelKS | samuel, no "a bit" about it |
| 16:24.39 | samuel | hahaha |
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| 16:24.48 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, also check the config file.. there are settings for that commented out |
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| 16:25.02 | oc | I have a problem getting postgresql to listen on tcp sockets. I have read the manuals and enabled tcpip sockets and added host-lines.. however it still won't bind to port 5432. There is nothing in the logs about it either. my OS is Linux 2.6.8 on Debian 3.1 Sarge with postgresql 7.4.7. Config files are at: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nQunUk35.html && http://rafb.net/paste/results/oMYGIh28.html |
| 16:25.08 | oc | any suggestions? is it broken? could it be the kernel? |
| 16:25.09 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, yeah, but I couldn't figure out which one uncommend and which one comment. |
| 16:25.21 | Hamled|Erp | clem_yeats, I've got no idea, I only run headless server |
| 16:25.28 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, 250 AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN |
| 16:25.28 | EtherNet_Work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:25.31 | SerajewelKS | jethro, is there a DCC blootbot command to tell it to shut down? |
| 16:25.33 | clem_yeats | Hamled|Erp : fair enough. thanks. |
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| 16:26.41 | samuel | SerajewelKS, yeah - open the terminal and "killall blootbot" |
| 16:26.43 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, google lead me into the light |
| 16:26.54 | SerajewelKS | samuel, that's more or less what i already do =) |
| 16:26.57 | samuel | SerajewelKS, in fact, that is a general sanity command |
| 16:26.58 | jethro | SerajewelKS: if you want to use blootbot, I suggest you either find a support channel for it, or read its code and figure out how it works. I'm not going to support it though |
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| 16:27.26 | SerajewelKS | jethro, you tell me where i can find a support channel and i'll go there =P |
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| 16:27.31 | badcoder | apache is not accepting remote connections , what line in httpd shoukld i fix? |
| 16:27.53 | jethro | SerajewelKS: try #debian-bots |
| 16:27.53 | SerajewelKS | badcoder, i'd check your firewall first |
| 16:28.04 | antgel | oc: please tell us from where and how you are trying to connect to the db |
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| 16:28.44 | warty | Hello |
| 16:28.51 | oc | i've tried both from localhost, from another machine behind the firewall, and from outside the firewall |
| 16:29.05 | oc | postgresql doesn't even listen to a tcp socket. |
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| 16:29.42 | warty | Hello |
| 16:29.50 | Laibsch | join #xfree86 |
| 16:30.17 | antgel | oc: confirmed how? |
| 16:30.24 | warty | sip |
| 16:30.35 | warty | hello |
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| 16:30.43 | Swappa__ | hey all |
| 16:30.46 | ke6isf | warty: Um, hi, how can we help you? |
| 16:30.48 | EdibleText | warty, hello already... |
| 16:31.07 | condector | o man, the SID have problems with KDE instalation |
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| 16:31.26 | skate | sid has broken packages? |
| 16:31.28 | skate | no way |
| 16:31.43 | SerajewelKS | !tell condector about break |
| 16:31.49 | EagleCros | skate: oh, yes, yes it does, I promise |
| 16:32.05 | skate | EagleCros: sarcasm. |
| 16:32.08 | ke6isf | skate, condector: There's a reason it's called "unstable" |
| 16:32.15 | EagleCros | </sarcasm> |
| 16:32.20 | Laibsch | Hi, I drive an external TFT 17" display with my IBM Thinkpad X20 running Debian Testing. The internal display has a resolution of 1024x768. The external I want to use at 1280x768 (not dual-head). I got the modelines to now have 1280x1024 but the display quality is - err - suboptimal. There are shadowy artifacts. Does that ring a bell of what is wrong for anyone? |
| 16:32.21 | EagleCros | :) |
| 16:32.33 | condector | SerajewelKS, thanks |
| 16:32.43 | ke6isf | skate: ...oh man, I don't do sarcasm before my second cup of coffee. =O.o= |
| 16:32.44 | EagleCros | !sarcasm |
| 16:32.45 | dpkg | hmm... sarcasm is when you say something that you don't entirely mean in order to gain some sort of dramatic effect or other er something;; for example "that's a really good definition" |
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| 16:33.28 | Swappa__ | or 'linux is easy as bro! get over it" |
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| 16:33.38 | phaedral | hi all; installed exim4, been talking on #exim, but have, I think run into a legit debian issue |
| 16:33.47 | Versin | hiho |
| 16:34.14 | phaedral | to get more than mainlog requires an exim.conf, but the readme.debian files advise to go as dpkg sets things up |
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| 16:34.38 | phaedral | on testing with the sample exim.conf I get an error on a macro |
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| 16:34.49 | greycat | phaedral: file a bug report |
| 16:34.54 | phaedral | oh |
| 16:35.03 | phaedral | never occured i had a real bug |
| 16:35.11 | oc | antgel: netstat -nlt && lsof | grep postgres |
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| 16:37.00 | antgel | oc: nestat -n gives port numbers. try netstat -nlt |grep <port number> |
| 16:37.04 | EdibleText | oc, -n will return number |
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| 16:37.14 | EdibleText | s |
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| 16:37.38 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, read the private please. |
| 16:37.57 | barryh | has anyone ever had their "Debian" menu just disappear from the gnome main menu's Applicaitons menu? |
| 16:38.02 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, excuse me? |
| 16:38.09 | antgel | !tell barryh about anyone |
| 16:38.15 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, please, read the private I have sent.. for not flooding |
| 16:38.27 | petemc | barryh: that is dependant on the package "menu", aiui |
| 16:38.44 | petemc | phaedral: what packages did you install exactly? |
| 16:38.46 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, nexttime ask to msg. its considered polite |
| 16:39.05 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, ok, sorry... |
| 16:39.07 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, can you help |
| 16:39.30 | phaedral | petemc: exim exim-config |
| 16:39.51 | greycat | phaedral: I hope you meant exim4 and exim4-config |
| 16:39.51 | oc | antgel: if you read above, i tried that. |
| 16:39.57 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, I didnt get the msg but I will suggest you search google for your problem.. I did , and found the solution |
| 16:40.14 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, you can help me.. google didn't help me much |
| 16:40.23 | petemc | phaedral: what version of debain are you using? |
| 16:40.24 | phaedral | yes; doublechecking bash_history, definitely exim4 |
| 16:40.33 | barryh | antgel: sorry about that; guess it's the first time i have used that word :-) |
| 16:40.35 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, If i could rememer exactly what I did I would help.. but that machine is currently off |
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| 16:40.46 | phaedral | petemc: sarge, mixed |
| 16:40.52 | petemc | phaedral: huh? |
| 16:41.10 | phaedral | apt-get install exim4 exim4-config straight from .bash_history |
| 16:41.20 | oc | antgel: i even tried lsof, (which lists open files and sockets). I am not a newbie. I did read the manual. I did change the config accordingly. I did reload the config. I did check that there are no TCP sockets listening (there is a regular socket and a UDP something) |
| 16:41.22 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, wait ,... perhaps its on |
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| 16:41.34 | oc | I believe that 7.4.7 might be broken |
| 16:41.36 | phaedral | It's a sarge install but lots of junk added over the months |
| 16:41.45 | greycat | what's a "regular" socket? |
| 16:41.55 | petemc | phaedral: and you have an /etc/exim4/ directory? |
| 16:42.04 | phaedral | petemc: yes |
| 16:42.06 | oc | greycat: UNIX socket. pedant. |
| 16:42.12 | Ronin | greycat: north american and not one of those funky europian ones |
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| 16:42.24 | greycat | Ronin: or a socket that's not constipated |
| 16:42.30 | barryh | petemc: thanks, yes, menu is installed at vesion 2.1.25 on my system |
| 16:42.41 | Ronin | greycat: heh |
| 16:42.46 | antgel | oc: may well be. checked the bts? how about running postgresql with debug on and checking logs at startup? |
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| 16:42.53 | petemc | phaedral: and there are files in it? what does exim -bV about your configuration file? |
| 16:43.02 | oc | antgel: tried that too |
| 16:43.08 | oc | antgel: trying it again |
| 16:43.26 | juxmen | debian is great! :> |
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| 16:43.59 | ke6isf | juxmen: ...but we knew that. =^_^= |
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| 16:44.47 | phaedral | petemc: the whole thing? last line says config in /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated |
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| 16:44.53 | antgel | oc: if you tell me how to switch debug on, i can try it on my box and see if it refers to tcp connection |
| 16:44.54 | phaedral | i'll go read that now |
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| 16:45.01 | phaedral | and thanks for the clue |
| 16:45.07 | kikinovak | Hi. I just waded through tons of wifi-related docs, and although I must have read several hundred pages, one big question remains: what wifi card (PCI as well as PCMCIA) is _sure_ to work well with Linux? If possible, with native drivers. Ah yes: 11 MB should be enough for my modest home LAN. |
| 16:45.11 | petemc | phaedral: if you dont know much about exim, it wont make much sense to you |
| 16:45.37 | kelsey23 | Help me plaese the Computer icon I put on my desktop is now owned by root and has a lock icon over it, and i cannot chown it |
| 16:45.44 | kikinovak | I add: I know all the chipsets... but why doesn't anyone talk about _brands_ and _models_ ? :o/ |
| 16:45.47 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, nope.. wrong box. |
| 16:45.47 | phaedral | petemc: too true |
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| 16:46.00 | greycat | you tried to... chown... an *icon*? |
| 16:46.01 | antgel | kelsey23: i'm speechless |
| 16:46.08 | phaedral | i'm wondering if i might have read the wrong readmes; don't think i've been to .../exim4-base/ today |
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| 16:46.13 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, now I could authenticate, I get a different error when sending a mail: "No valid recipients" |
| 16:46.14 | greycat | how does that, uh, work? |
| 16:46.16 | phaedral | will go poke around in there next |
| 16:46.17 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, what is bad? |
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| 16:46.23 | kelsey23 | the computer desktop confuguration file, actually |
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| 16:46.45 | barryh | kikinovak: cisco aironet cards generally works well, esp on i386, but they tend to be more expensive |
| 16:46.55 | antgel | phaedral: apt-cache search exim4-doc or www.exim.org. what do you need the server to do? |
| 16:46.56 | petemc | phaedral: if what you want to achieve is not too exotic, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config is probably sufficient |
| 16:47.01 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, yeah. mail is needs to be sent to someone. |
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| 16:47.06 | kikinovak | barryh 1 sec I check that out |
| 16:47.08 | douglas | my company's consultant is c-blocking me from trying to get the company's PBX onto viop, saying it's just too hairy to do with a PBX situation.. There are about 20 extentions inside and 8 lines outside the PBX, maybe average 4 are being used at the same time. Assuming bandwidth was not an issue, is there any truth to that pessimism or is this quite possible? And if so which company ought I go with? |
| 16:47.12 | grendal_prime | anyone using secvpn ? |
| 16:47.18 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, of course I put many address for sending the mail |
| 16:47.19 | grendal_prime | im a little confused |
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| 16:47.29 | oc | antgel: nothing in the logs, even with all logs on debug5 except an error from autovacuum: Error: GUC variable stats_row_level must be enabled. \ Please fix the problems and try again. |
| 16:47.30 | EtherNet_Work | EdibleText, please open a private, it's confusing here |
| 16:47.36 | douglas | Our monthly phone bill's in excess of 10 grand a month |
| 16:47.38 | ke6isf | !tell grendal_prime -about polls |
| 16:47.39 | petemc | douglas: asterisk has a steep learning curve |
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| 16:47.51 | antgel | oc: ^^^ |
| 16:47.55 | douglas | petemc: ? |
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| 16:47.57 | petemc | douglas: tho *@home is easy to use |
| 16:47.59 | EdibleText | EtherNet_Work, your best be is in #exim I rarely mess with exim, and when I do it works.. |
| 16:48.10 | phaedral | I want to compose in mutt, have recipient's see it from my hosted domain; I think this means mutt -> exim -> smarthost -> recipient |
| 16:48.14 | douglas | oh astericks is a company.. |
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| 16:48.22 | ke6isf | douglas: What you're looking to do requires a package called Asterisk. Google it up. |
| 16:48.27 | douglas | ok |
| 16:48.29 | petemc | douglas: no, asterisk is an open source pbx |
| 16:48.30 | phaedral | right now mail goes out and disappears, no bounces, no nothing |
| 16:48.38 | kelsey23 | oddly it just came back into my ownership without doing anything |
| 16:48.39 | phaedral | so trying to get logs other than main log |
| 16:48.41 | xhypno | hey all |
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| 16:48.46 | petemc | phaedral: exim doesnt lose mail |
| 16:48.47 | phaedral | which brings me to the config file |
| 16:48.48 | douglas | I'll contact asterisk .. So this is in fact doable |
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| 16:48.55 | ke6isf | Um... |
| 16:48.56 | douglas | thank you kindly |
| 16:48.57 | ke6isf | !asterisk |
| 16:48.58 | dpkg | it has been said that asterisk is a VoIP phone system for linux. Very powerful very cool, or #asterisk-stable |
| 16:49.00 | grendal_prime | ok good point, im trying to set up secvpn on debian, but when i think i have it setup the way it should be i fire it up and it just says...terminated |
| 16:49.01 | phaedral | petemc: never said it did, said I can't get feedback on what's gone on |
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| 16:49.13 | douglas | for linux? I was on topic after all :) |
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| 16:49.19 | phaedral | chap at #exim suggested more logs than simply mainlog |
| 16:49.20 | oc | antgel: now i got a "LOG: unexpected EOF on client connection |
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| 16:49.23 | kikinovak | barryh forget it... WAY too expensive Xo/ |
| 16:49.30 | greycat | #asterisk-stable has no topic |
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| 16:49.31 | ke6isf | douglas: Not *quite*. Debian is Linux, but Linux isn't necessarily Debian. |
| 16:49.38 | antgel | oc: when do you get that message? |
| 16:49.41 | petemc | phaedral: right, rejectlog and paniclog, tho paniclog should rarely br written to |
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| 16:49.46 | ke6isf | douglas: We can be *very* pedantic about that. =^_^= |
| 16:49.58 | douglas | Kidding ke.. when i am desperate i go here because this channel has the smartest people |
| 16:50.02 | greycat | ke6isf: debian isn't even necessarily linux (hurd, kfreebsd) |
| 16:50.11 | phaedral | so said adaptr on #exim, but i've failed to get a conf file that will let me |
| 16:50.16 | antgel | !fuck hurd |
| 16:50.18 | ke6isf | greycat: ...and thus, I'm enlightened. =^^= |
| 16:50.20 | ke6isf | !greycat++ |
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| 16:50.43 | dpicker | anyone know how to check make sure a .deb can be installed before installing it?? |
| 16:50.53 | phaedral | yikes, gotta move car for street sweeping; brb |
| 16:51.00 | greycat | try it on your test machine which is identical to your production machine |
| 16:51.19 | paulswm | hahaha |
| 16:51.40 | ke6isf | dpicker: Install it. If it installs, it's installable. If it doesn't, it isn't. |
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| 16:52.18 | douglas | last question -- since most of these calls are international, again typical monthly bill is > $10k, which voip compan[y/ies] might be best? |
| 16:52.22 | oc | antgel: on startup.. its caused by autovacuum |
| 16:52.23 | SerajewelKS | dpicker, you can also try 'dpkg --dry-run -i file.deb" |
| 16:52.34 | paulswm | To be safe, do a system backup first, restore from backup if it causes problems |
| 16:52.35 | ke6isf | douglas: I'm partial to Speakeasy, personally. I think they have business plans. |
| 16:52.57 | ke6isf | douglas: Speakeasy I believe contracts through Level 3 for thee VOIP provision. |
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| 16:53.07 | ke6isf | oops... s/thee/the |
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| 16:53.10 | douglas | speakeasy it is. Thanks for the off topic tolerance, big help |
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| 16:53.20 | FieldySnuts | ~spank douglas |
| 16:53.22 | apt | ACTION bends douglas over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on douglas's pasty white buttocks. |
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| 16:53.25 | oc | antgel: stats_row_level = true in postgres.conf |
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| 16:53.52 | FieldySnuts | what is ibot? |
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| 16:53.52 | EdibleText | !ibot |
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| 16:53.52 | paflores | cocolito |
| 16:53.52 | ke6isf | douglas: If you're happy with these results, please tell them I referred you: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/10577 |
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| 16:53.59 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 16:54.01 | phaedral | back |
| 16:54.07 | phaedral | 40 buck I don't need to spend |
| 16:54.10 | FieldySnuts | ~biased |
| 16:54.12 | paflores | me entiende algien |
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| 16:54.22 | ke6isf | !es |
| 16:54.22 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:54.29 | antgel | oc: i have that. but i was wondering if there's any more debug during startup, when it should create the socket. |
| 16:54.41 | paulswm | An ibot is a motirized wheelchair I think |
| 16:54.42 | oc | antgel: no |
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| 16:54.46 | paulswm | motorized |
| 16:54.54 | FieldySnuts | apt: biased is <reply> $1: biased, defined by zdnet and arstechnica. And sometimes tomshardware. |
| 16:54.56 | apt | FieldySnuts: okay |
| 16:55.00 | oc | antgel: and all log options are set to either debug5 or verbose |
| 16:55.03 | FieldySnuts | apt: biased? |
| 16:55.05 | apt | $1: biased, defined by zdnet and arstechnica. And sometimes tomshardware. |
| 16:55.09 | FieldySnuts | ... |
| 16:55.12 | FieldySnuts | apt forget biased |
| 16:55.13 | apt | FieldySnuts: i forgot biased |
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| 16:55.21 | FieldySnuts | why isn't it turning $1 into the requesting nick |
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| 16:55.38 | antgel | oc: pretty lame that it doesn't have startup debug info |
| 16:55.39 | greycat | FieldySnuts: because you meant $who |
| 16:55.40 | EdibleText | FieldySnuts, $who or $nick I think |
| 16:55.42 | phaedral | so it looks like error was from niavely copying exim4.conf.template to exi4.conf |
| 16:55.44 | FieldySnuts | doh. |
| 16:55.48 | ke6isf | apt: what are you? |
| 16:55.50 | apt | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 16:55.51 | FieldySnuts | lame factoid any7way |
| 16:55.55 | paulswm | $1 is a positional parameter |
| 16:56.01 | oc | antgel: there is obviously some startup debug, but nothing interesting |
| 16:56.37 | oc | antgel: apart from the reference to the vacuum error. |
| 16:56.45 | greycat | apt, biased is the answer you get when you ask #debian which distro is best. |
| 16:56.46 | apt | greycat: okay |
| 16:56.52 | oc | antgel: could you share me your config, so i can do a diff? |
| 16:57.03 | phaedral | biased? |
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| 16:57.18 | oc | antgel: both postgres.conf & pg_hba.conf |
| 16:57.21 | jethro | @aussiesmite FieldySnuts |
| 16:57.22 | ravenbird | FieldySnuts: hold on mate im going to the dunny to take a bog |
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| 16:57.38 | paulswm | dpkg: what does FieldySnuts pay you for? |
| 16:57.39 | dpkg | sometimes FieldySnuts begs for genital shaving, paulswm, but I've really had enough... |
| 16:57.46 | FieldySnuts | eh. |
| 16:57.49 | jethro | hah |
| 16:57.52 | FieldySnuts | it all backfires on me |
| 16:57.52 | EdibleText | whoa |
| 16:58.00 | FieldySnuts | ~what does paulswm pay you for |
| 16:58.02 | apt | often paulswm begs for genital shaving, fieldysnuts, but I'm open to suggestions! |
| 16:58.02 | ke6isf | Well, now the entire channel knows. |
| 16:58.06 | FieldySnuts | damn it |
| 16:58.13 | greycat | not enough choices. |
| 16:58.17 | FieldySnuts | wtf is with the rand on these lately |
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| 16:58.41 | oc | maybe it flipped the coin and it landed on heads twice in a row |
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| 16:58.47 | paulswm | Actually, I am having a heart catheterization tomorrow, so genital shaving is upcoming. |
| 16:58.53 | EdibleText | shorn scotum = better feel dez nutz |
| 16:58.53 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 16:58.58 | r3m | oh shit.. a new kind of cocaine is out |
| 16:58.59 | EdibleText | scrotum even |
| 16:59.11 | FieldySnuts | ~lart EdibleText |
| 16:59.13 | FieldySnuts | brb. |
| 16:59.20 | ke6isf | paulswm: sounds unpleasant. |
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| 16:59.48 | greycat | r3m: and that matters because...? |
| 16:59.49 | ke6isf | r3m: Hey, my old boss might be interested. He might even overdose. What's the skinny? |
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| 17:00.06 | paulswm | ke6isf: catheter into a femoral artery in the groin, up and round the main aorta, into the coronary arteries, nothing to it :( |
| 17:00.07 | oc | anybody backported postgresql 7.4.8 ? |
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| 17:00.29 | pwk | hmm my root partition of located on a raid housed on a "RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 3ware 7000-series ATA-RAID (rev 01)", what do I have to do to make my new apt-get install kernel-image-foo kernel to be able to mount that at boot? |
| 17:00.33 | FieldySnuts | no more bans on sudden join/parts? |
| 17:00.47 | r3m | well this is a remix of cocaine, but bluecaine is a little bit blue when you put it close of a light |
| 17:00.50 | greycat | FieldySnuts: there never were. |
| 17:00.58 | FieldySnuts | r3m: and we care whY? |
| 17:01.05 | ke6isf | FieldySnuts: It seems to be a common thing for the spambots, and dondelelcaro already noted that there are just so many of them to beat down with it.... |
| 17:01.05 | EdibleText | r3m, is that like the sprite remix? |
| 17:01.09 | greycat | FieldySnuts: all the bans I put in place were the result of actual spam /msg's being sent |
| 17:01.14 | FieldySnuts | ah |
| 17:01.18 | oc | greycat: btw from hcunix? |
| 17:01.19 | FieldySnuts | damn that's a lot of work |
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| 17:01.27 | paulswm | I note that freenode does wish spambots to register their nicks before msging victims. |
| 17:01.34 | r3m | well on this, the high are 40 minutes instead of 20 |
| 17:01.35 | greycat | oc: since I have no idea what a hcunix is, I guess it's "no" :) |
| 17:01.38 | FieldySnuts | only if the victim has +E set |
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| 17:02.04 | oc | must be some freebsd junkie then |
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| 17:02.08 | ircdevil | sup |
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| 17:02.17 | greycat | there are other greycats in the world |
| 17:02.18 | r3m | oc hahaha |
| 17:02.20 | ke6isf | I'll bet those last three were spambots. |
| 17:02.25 | r3m | i use freebsd, |
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| 17:02.28 | r3m | you are right |
| 17:02.32 | FieldySnuts | ~medal r3m |
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| 17:02.39 | FieldySnuts | feh |
| 17:02.41 | oc | me too, i love it apart from java |
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| 17:02.48 | EagleCros | !medal r3m |
| 17:02.50 | oc | then i have to use linux |
| 17:02.51 | r3m | keep the medal and give me some money to buy some blucaine |
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| 17:02.54 | FieldySnuts | thanks. |
| 17:03.02 | jethro | !lart r3m |
| 17:03.08 | ke6isf | paulswm: Since they rotate so much, there's no point - and reg'ing a nick would only pinpoint them. They know that, so they won't, and don't give a fsck about who gets their shite. |
| 17:03.12 | FieldySnuts | apt: irritate jethro |
| 17:03.14 | apt | jethro: hi every1 who uses kde thx |
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| 17:03.23 | jethro | apt: ask a sid user, not me |
| 17:03.25 | EdibleText | heh |
| 17:03.27 | jethro | :) |
| 17:03.34 | atom-z | how can I mount a cdrom from inside a chroot? |
| 17:03.35 | paulswm | ke6isf: True, my poor attempt at irony |
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| 17:03.46 | phaedral | doh; changes to exim4.conf.template are propogated to conf.autoconfig |
| 17:03.59 | FieldySnuts | uh, geez just +E yourself |
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| 17:04.19 | FieldySnuts | that 201 keeps coming back |
| 17:04.42 | ke6isf | Am I reading that latest global from lilo correctly? It sounds like the nickserv option would just pretty much not be +E. |
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| 17:07.10 | jethro | ~test |
| 17:07.12 | apt | Test Failed! |
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| 17:07.55 | sagarp | how do i install an older version of something |
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| 17:08.53 | paulswm | There does seem to be rather a lot of popping in and out. |
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| 17:09.30 | pwk | with near four hundred people, not so weird, is it |
| 17:09.54 | paulswm | Well yes, it is, there's normally 800 and not so much in/out activity |
| 17:09.55 | sward | Wow, only 384 :o |
| 17:10.02 | sward | What happened to 700-odd? |
| 17:10.06 | EagleCros | depends, if 90% of the people that join part just a second after |
| 17:10.17 | EdibleText | paulswm, and all n= |
| 17:10.22 | EagleCros | depends, if 90% of the people that join part just a second after then it is quite weird |
| 17:10.23 | paulswm | Yes. |
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| 17:11.05 | pwk | so, what do I need to do for my raid to boot up |
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| 17:11.33 | pwk | the kernel apparently doesn't have the raid built into the kernel...and the initrd doesnt load the right modules or it would boot...so I need some tuning somewhere I figure. |
| 17:11.42 | Lee__ | pwk: what kernel? |
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| 17:12.01 | pwk | Lee__, I went for kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp |
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| 17:12.08 | pwk | freshly apt-getted |
| 17:12.11 | Cronic | Can anyone list me the sources.list from thier apt? I just need the normal package locations. |
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| 17:12.16 | Lee__ | do you know what driver your controller needs? |
| 17:12.17 | Cronic | My default list doesn't have the http sources for apt. |
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| 17:12.32 | pwk | Lee__, i found the controler in lspci |
| 17:12.33 | Cronic | This installation doesn't have lynx on it, or a GUI so Im stuck with CLI. |
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| 17:12.47 | dimir | Cronic: run 'base-config' and choose configure apt |
| 17:12.49 | pwk | Lee__, probably I could figure out the name of the module/option in the kernel with some googling |
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| 17:12.55 | Cronic | thanks |
| 17:12.56 | Lee__ | !tell Cronic about mirrors |
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| 17:13.03 | Cronic | freakin sweet |
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| 17:13.21 | Cronic | thanks so much guys. :) |
| 17:13.28 | Lee__ | pwk: what's the controller and do you know what the module it needs is called? |
| 17:13.29 | atom-z | does anyone know how I can mount my cdrom drive in a chroot (or should I just mount it outside of the chroot?) |
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| 17:13.48 | dimir | Cronic: no problemo ;-) |
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| 17:13.58 | ke6isf | atom-z: Why do you even need that as an option? =O.o= |
| 17:14.16 | pwk | Lee__, "3ware Inc 3ware 7000-series ATA-RAID" is what lspci gives... |
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| 17:15.06 | Lee__ | have you looked through your module list or on google for that yet? |
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| 17:15.21 | pwk | Lee__, lets assume I know the module name, how do I procede? |
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| 17:15.28 | baard | My laptop with SID usually allways works very well, so when I have about 600 package upgrades it allways feels pretty risky to do an upgrade :-) Any tips on how to reduce breakage on my system? (Imaging of / is a slow but OK solution) |
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| 17:15.40 | oc | antgel: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-admin/2004-10/msg00368.php this seem to describe my problem |
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| 17:16.12 | Lee__ | pwk: if you know the module name and it isn't booting from the initrd, you have to build a new kernel with a new initrd. install kernel-package. |
| 17:16.18 | ircdevil | i have usb mouse and a usb tablet - and something fishy is going on after reboot, where only the usb mouse is working. anyone knows this stuff? |
| 17:16.33 | Lee__ | baard: perhaps not running sid would help? |
| 17:16.40 | sagarp | what do i do when i do apt-get install xx-source?? |
| 17:16.44 | Lee__ | sarge takes the un out of stable |
| 17:17.07 | pwk | Lee__, why a new kernel too, wouldn't a new initrd suffice? |
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| 17:17.29 | Cronic | what packages do I need to install in order to mount a cifs w2k3 share over the LAN? |
| 17:17.34 | Lee__ | not sure. I have only used kernel-package. |
| 17:17.39 | Cronic | basicly, what samba packages, and such |
| 17:17.44 | Lee__ | !tell Cronic about samba |
| 17:17.49 | baard | Lee__: Well d'oh, dont you think that's a bit ignorant answer? But hell, I wont bother you with questions if you feel they are lame |
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| 17:18.21 | Lee__ | baard: no, telling you to run the STABLE version to make your UNSTABLE system more stable is not ignorant. |
| 17:18.22 | EdibleText | ircdevil, does the tablet work on reboot if the mouse is removed? |
| 17:18.37 | sagarp | i did apt-get install qc-usb-source, but what do i do after that ?? |
| 17:18.47 | ircdevil | EdibleText: yes |
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| 17:19.18 | EdibleText | ircdevil, perhaps the PS cannot support that many devices.. |
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| 17:20.11 | EdibleText | ircdevil, I had an experiance (cousins computer) where the mouse would stop reponding randomly. weak PS |
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| 17:20.21 | ircdevil | EdibleText: if i start x without the mouse, the tablet works - then i plug in the mouse and both tablet and mouse works. but that is surely the worst fix ever! |
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| 17:20.36 | nekron | my amsn with tk 8.4 is broken.. the program stop of answer and all is white.. but when i use the tk8.3 no problem.. anyone knows? |
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| 17:20.49 | Lee__ | does exim honor /etc/aliases? |
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| 17:21.05 | petemc | Lee__: yes |
| 17:21.08 | abrotman | nekron: sid/unstable ? |
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| 17:21.13 | nekron | sid.. |
| 17:21.14 | abrotman | petemc: etch picture funny!!! |
| 17:21.16 | nekron | stable.. |
| 17:21.18 | petemc | Lee__: assuming its configured to, which it should be |
| 17:21.20 | abrotman | nekron: did you check the BTS? |
| 17:21.22 | petemc | abrotman: side splitting :) |
| 17:21.25 | EdibleText | ircdevil, perhaps I misunderstood. Does it work normal under any circumstances? |
| 17:21.29 | nekron | abrotman, bts? |
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| 17:21.31 | Lee__ | petemc: it's not generating an aliases.db file when I run newaliases. |
| 17:21.33 | abrotman | !btssmite nekron |
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| 17:21.41 | petemc | Lee__: nor should it |
| 17:21.45 | Lee__ | okay, just checking. |
| 17:21.48 | petemc | Lee__: its a normal flat file |
| 17:21.52 | braindead_moron | anyone know the name of the debian package with the man pages for linux file system calls like open, read, write? |
| 17:21.58 | petemc | Lee__: you dont need to run newaliases |
| 17:22.10 | cadu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.11 | Lee__ | that's a nice feature :) |
| 17:22.18 | petemc | :) |
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| 17:23.23 | braindead_moron | cadu: looks like just pthread stuff to me (in glibc-doc) |
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| 17:23.45 | cadu | braindead_moron: well it should contain all the gnu libc documentation :) |
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| 17:23.50 | ircdevil | EdibleText: the problem seems to be that the mouse driver loads before the tablet driver. |
| 17:23.51 | cadu | braindead_moron: tried 'man open' ? |
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| 17:24.03 | abrotman | braindead_moron: have you tried `man -k open` ? or somehting? |
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| 17:24.14 | nekron | abrotman, if i compile tk8.4? |
| 17:24.23 | abrotman | nekron: you shouldn't |
| 17:24.36 | abrotman | braindead_moron: i assume you mean `man 2 open` ? |
| 17:25.05 | abrotman | !find man2/open.2.gz |
| 17:25.09 | nekron | abrotman, why? |
| 17:25.22 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'man2/open.2.gz' (6 of 10): (/usr/share/man/man2/open.2.gz) in doc/manpages-dev ;; (/usr/share/man/ko/man2/open.2.gz) in doc/manpages-ko ;; (/usr/share/man/es/man2/open.2.gz) in doc/manpages-es ;; (/usr/share/man/nl/man2/open.2.gz) in doc/manpages-nl ;; (/usr/share/man/ru/man2/open.2.gz) in doc/manpages-ru ;; (/usr/share/man/fr/man2/open.2.gz) in doc/manpages-fr. |
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| 17:25.30 | abrotman | nekron: because .. that's how you break things .. and then we won't help you because you can't work within a package management system |
| 17:25.35 | EdibleText | ircdevil, via /etc/modules? |
| 17:25.37 | abrotman | braindead_moron: manpages-dev |
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| 17:25.57 | EdibleText | ircdevil, you could change the order.. |
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| 17:26.07 | Om3n | What can i do to stop people trying to hack my linux box coming through proxies or to ban ip's? |
| 17:26.30 | ircdevil | EdibleText: hmmm is that enuf ? |
| 17:26.39 | nekron | abrotman, but my problem? i need the tk8.4 correctly.. :~ |
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| 17:26.49 | jason | can somone tell me how to bind a variable in a regular expression in sed? |
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| 17:27.20 | Phroziac | good timezone. |
| 17:27.33 | pwk | Lee__, the modules I need are 3w-9xxx.ko and 3w-xxxx.ko and the kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp comes with those modules...so can I tell the initrd to include them and load them at boot time? |
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| 17:27.51 | cadu | Om3n: you can't stop them trying to hack you , or tyring to brute force your ssh login....the only way to stop them is pulling out your ethernet cable.... |
| 17:27.53 | abrotman | nekron: did you try apt-get install tk8.4 ? |
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| 17:27.59 | abrotman | or tk8.4-dev ? |
| 17:28.04 | cadu | Om3n: what you can do is secure your box enough so that they'll never breach it ;) |
| 17:28.04 | abrotman | or whatever you're trying to do |
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| 17:28.07 | ma3x | Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected. The library used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx containers,compatible with 2.4), and your program used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx containers). Aborted |
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| 17:28.11 | ma3x | any clue what to do? |
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| 17:28.21 | ircdevil | EdibleText: the tablet belongs the input section of XF86config-4 and that i think requieres the input module - which is the same as the usb mouse module ... hence changing /etc/modules will not do the trick i am afraid |
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| 17:28.24 | nekron | abrotman, yes, then the amsn is broken with this package but if apt-get install tk8.3 no problem.. |
| 17:28.27 | EdibleText | ircdevil, I dont really know what your problem is.. theres a lot of ifs.. but it wouldnt hurt to try, if lie you say the order seems to affect it |
| 17:28.30 | tarzeau | how can i find out what other modules via-rhine.o needs? |
| 17:28.31 | Lee__ | pwk: that should happen automatically. that's the point of the initrd. |
| 17:28.35 | EdibleText | s/lie/like |
| 17:28.39 | Om3n | cadu, is there any methods at all i can take? somone got into the game server i was running on the machine and it was a strong password... isn't their anything to be done? |
| 17:28.51 | abrotman | nekron: did you check the bug system? |
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| 17:28.59 | Om3n | i've changed the password now but it was #2nMarEL1 |
| 17:29.11 | Om3n | i thought that would be strong enough :\ |
| 17:29.12 | Phroziac | So, I noticed i'm running in software graphics rendering. My computer is really really old, and I have a voodoo 3 card, that i'd like to use for the hardware acceleration. I've had the tdfx driver installed in the kernel forever, how can i set this up? |
| 17:29.13 | ircdevil | EdibleText: ok lemme to a test |
| 17:29.15 | abrotman | nekron: does it not run at all .. or just freeze? |
| 17:29.19 | cadu | Om3n: it must be someone you know...or that knows you.....or the game server has some breach/root exploit/etc |
| 17:29.29 | necrite | hi.. anyone here hava une ipaq? i cant sync with my debian |
| 17:29.35 | EdibleText | ircdevil, thats what I suspected. thus the reason I asked if you were talking about /etc/modules or something X specific |
| 17:29.44 | Om3n | cadu, the server doesn't run as root |
| 17:29.54 | nekron | abrotman, yes, but i'm brazilian and my english is very well.. freeze the amsn.. |
| 17:29.54 | cadu | Om3n : there must be some exploits on this server, and that password seems strong |
| 17:30.12 | cadu | Om3n: but it allowed the cracker to break into the running account or so ? |
| 17:30.12 | ircdevil | EdibleText: ill test - brb |
| 17:30.16 | nekron | abrotman, in minutes the amsn freeze and stay white.. |
| 17:30.16 | ma3x | could anybody answer me please? |
| 17:30.23 | cadu | nekron: quer ajuda? |
| 17:30.36 | cadu | nekron: my amsn freezes sometimes too |
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| 17:30.38 | Om3n | cadu, is there a way to block incoming proxies? |
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| 17:30.46 | nekron | cadu, portugues? |
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| 17:30.55 | cadu | nekron: brasilsilsilsilsil |
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| 17:31.07 | cadu | Om3n : /j #iptables |
| 17:31.11 | nekron | cadu, pensei que n tinha ngm por aqui xP pode falar pt aqui? |
| 17:31.13 | cadu | Om3n: i'm not a firewall expert :) |
| 17:31.16 | Om3n | thanks :) |
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| 17:31.32 | Om3n | cadu, thanks for the consulting anyway ^^ |
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| 17:31.47 | cadu | Om3n: hehehe sorry but i'm not a überiptables hacker :) |
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| 17:32.22 | nekron | cadu, meu amsn dps de alguns minutos em uso, fica todo branco e para de responder.. |
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| 17:32.46 | abrotman | !es |
| 17:32.46 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:32.47 | nvz | nekron: we speak english in #debian. |
| 17:32.52 | cadu | Om3n: i know that there's a list of Open Proxies on the net and that must be some program/thing that blocks requests coming from any open proxy on the net |
| 17:32.53 | nekron | cadu, isso com a tk8.4, mas com a 8.3 não da esse problema.. por mim usaria a 8.3 mas com ela alguns recursos n funcionam |
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| 17:32.57 | nvz | abrotman: portuguese |
| 17:32.58 | cadu | abrotman: it's brazillian portuguese :) |
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| 17:33.02 | nekron | nvz, sorry.. |
| 17:33.02 | abrotman | !pt |
| 17:33.02 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:33.03 | abrotman | ok .. fine |
| 17:33.05 | cadu | abrotman: lemme tackle this one :) |
| 17:33.06 | abrotman | whatever |
| 17:33.07 | nvz | abrotman: spanish doesnt look that fucked up |
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| 17:33.08 | cadu | abrotman: leave it to me |
| 17:33.12 | abrotman | cadu: take him to #debian-br .. not here |
| 17:33.13 | cadu | <-- brazillian :) |
| 17:33.27 | ircdevil | !beer EdibleText |
| 17:33.27 | cadu | nekron: cara, vamos pro #debian-br senão eles ficam putos :) |
| 17:33.35 | abrotman | cadu: hey .. don't call us that! |
| 17:33.42 | ircdevil | :oD |
| 17:33.45 | cadu | abrotman: call you guys what? o_O |
| 17:33.53 | abrotman | dont call us vamos! :) |
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| 17:34.07 | cadu | 'vamos' = 'to go' |
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| 17:34.11 | cadu | ehehheheheheh abrotman |
| 17:34.11 | abrotman | cadu: i know .. |
| 17:34.16 | nekron | cadu, uhum, i stay there.. |
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| 17:34.26 | cadu | nekron: "/query cadu" |
| 17:34.35 | abrotman | nekron: you cannot speak portugueuse in this channel |
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| 17:34.41 | abrotman | and i cannot spell in this channel |
| 17:34.47 | greycat | he can... but not for very long. |
| 17:34.49 | nekron | abrotman, sorry, now i understand.. x) |
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| 17:34.59 | abrotman | nekron: thank you |
| 17:35.01 | EdibleText | ircdevil, whoa it worked? |
| 17:35.03 | abrotman | err gracias? |
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| 17:35.23 | cadu | greycat: don't be mean with us poor 3rd world linux users T___T |
| 17:35.42 | greycat | !br |
| 17:35.42 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 17:35.53 | tarzeau | heh Need to get 855MB of archives. After unpacking 2291MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 17:35.56 | cadu | greycat: i'm already helping him on a private |
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| 17:36.06 | cadu | tarzeau: are you upgrading from debian 0.1 ? |
| 17:36.07 | cbr | tarzeau: for what :o |
| 17:36.19 | tarzeau | cadu, cbr: nah, dphys-maple dphys-mathematica dphys-matlab dphys-realplayer dphys-xv |
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| 17:36.39 | greycat | !listkeys dphys |
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| 17:36.41 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'dphys' by key (1): dphys. |
| 17:36.50 | cadu | tarzeau: dphys? |
| 17:36.52 | cadu | !dphys |
| 17:36.52 | dpkg | methinks dphys is http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/ |
| 17:36.54 | nekron | cadu, do you go answer me? |
| 17:37.05 | tarzeau | cadu: department of physics, eth zurich (switzerland) |
| 17:37.16 | cadu | nice |
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| 17:37.30 | tarzeau | cadu: yes, i've almost upgraded them all to sarge (and they do run popularity contest ;) |
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| 17:37.58 | cadu | eheheheh |
| 17:38.11 | cyzie | hello all, im looking for the command of lock session in kde, anybody know ? |
| 17:38.15 | cadu | tarzeau: i'm doing a fresh install here at work and i'm struggling ...netinstal using a 256k link |
| 17:38.18 | nekron | cadu, i'm in your pvt.. |
| 17:38.21 | greycat | so ... WHY in the name of all that's unholy are you installing realplayer, tarzeau? |
| 17:38.21 | cadu | s/instal/install |
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| 17:38.29 | greycat | I expected better of you ;-) |
| 17:38.31 | tarzeau | greycat: our users... i don't use it |
| 17:38.38 | nekron | in #debian-br nobody help me :~ |
| 17:38.49 | greycat | nekron: then make cadu go there and help you. |
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| 17:38.54 | tarzeau | greycat: actually it's not even the fault of our users, but those who distribute content in realplayer format only |
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| 17:39.09 | tarzeau | cadu: want to do networkboot/install fully automatic? |
| 17:39.11 | greycat | tarzeau: vicious cycle. the users put up with it, which encourages them. |
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| 17:39.18 | Gathond | tarzeau: cant mplayer, xine or such not play that |
| 17:39.24 | tarzeau | cadu: i've hacked d-i to be 2.4.31 and support all hardware that you can get these days |
| 17:39.30 | tarzeau | Gathond: no they can't |
| 17:39.33 | cadu | tarzeau: hheehhe |
| 17:39.45 | cadu | tarzeau: i would like a simple solution to do netbooting :) that would make me happy |
| 17:39.54 | greycat | "real media" is the only format that rivals Windows Media for pure evil. |
| 17:39.54 | nekron | cadu, then tou won't help me? |
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| 17:40.12 | tarzeau | cadu: http://gnu.ethz.ch/d-i/ there you go ;) |
| 17:40.15 | cadu | tarzeau: i have 2 boxen at home, one is a fast athlon xp and an k6-2...i would like to use the k6-2 as a thin client for X :) |
| 17:40.20 | tarzeau | cadu: install tftpd and dhcp3-server , that's it |
| 17:40.33 | cadu | tarzeau: for booting i'll need etherboot right? |
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| 17:40.47 | tarzeau | cadu: any network card that can do pxe |
| 17:40.56 | cadu | tarzeau: pxe? |
| 17:41.01 | cadu | tarzeau: what if i don't have one? |
| 17:41.03 | tarzeau | !pxe |
| 17:41.03 | dpkg | well, pxe is a network boot protocol. http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php |
| 17:41.09 | cadu | tarzeau: etherboot on a floppy ? |
| 17:41.12 | tarzeau | cadu: buy one such card, they're cheap |
| 17:41.17 | tarzeau | cadu: awww come on floppy SUCKS |
| 17:41.27 | tarzeau | cadu: even *I* have one such network card for i386 crap |
| 17:41.27 | cadu | tarzeau: okay okay, etherboot on a cd-rw |
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| 17:41.35 | tarzeau | cadu: cd sucks too! |
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| 17:41.39 | nekron | cadu, answer that I stop.. hehe |
| 17:41.39 | cadu | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA] |
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| 17:41.43 | tarzeau | cadu: oh how i hate ibm pc |
| 17:41.54 | cadu | tarzeau: what do you like ? |
| 17:42.00 | cadu | tarzeau: sparcs? |
| 17:42.03 | tarzeau | cadu: computer that works without cd, floppy ;) |
| 17:42.05 | cadu | tarzeau: ppcs? *hides* |
| 17:42.15 | tarzeau | cadu: i like my alpha |
| 17:42.23 | tarzeau | cadu: but yeah sparc's nice too (can run OPENSTEP) |
| 17:42.42 | tarzeau | cadu: and i've got an ibook g3 700, that i like yes |
| 17:42.46 | cadu | tarzeau: i've just messed with x86 and ppcs ;) |
| 17:43.05 | cadu | tarzeau: i've bought an OLD OLD powermac 8500 /128mb /200mhz just to see how linux fares in that...and it went very well |
| 17:43.11 | tarzeau | cadu: i've got a hp parisc here too, and two sgi mips (but they can't run linux , not really) |
| 17:43.27 | cadu | tarzeau: SGI Indys can run linux fine? |
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| 17:43.38 | tarzeau | cadu: not all, but some, yes |
| 17:43.40 | cadu | tarzeau: i think a friend of mine has 2 of them on his basement...scsi-2 hds... |
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| 17:43.49 | cadu | i think they're those R3000 , something like that |
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| 17:44.14 | CosmoDad | hi is there any tool to message people on Linux with little pop-up windows? |
| 17:44.22 | greycat | CosmoDad: dear god, no. |
| 17:44.28 | tarzeau | cadu: http://www.us.debian.org/ports/mips/ |
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| 17:44.39 | tarzeau | cadu: r5k and r4400 works |
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| 17:44.49 | Ronin | CosmoDad: and hopefully wont |
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| 17:44.56 | tarzeau | cadu: i've got an r10k and something odd that i don't know what it is (but it looks nice ;) |
| 17:44.57 | CosmoDad | greycat: only because windows has major security problems with their messaging system doesn't mean it's evil |
| 17:44.58 | cadu | CosmoDad: you'll have to hack one yourself. |
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| 17:45.09 | brick | who is supposed to edit /etc/modules? can i just fill it with my own list, or does it get autogenerated from some other files? |
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| 17:45.20 | greycat | CosmoDad: you'd need to steal their mit-magic-cookies *and* get a local shell on their workstation |
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| 17:45.28 | tarzeau | cadu: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/o2r10k/IMG_3220.JPG |
| 17:45.46 | cadu | greycat: xauth extract | xauth merge ? |
| 17:45.47 | cadu | :) |
| 17:45.47 | greycat | brick: you may edit it all you like |
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| 17:45.53 | CosmoDad | greycat: actually I have access to the user's account, so that won't be a problem |
| 17:46.04 | greycat | CosmoDad: then why are you asking us? :) |
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| 17:46.09 | CosmoDad | greycat: I just need to make a window pop up and say "message" |
| 17:46.14 | greycat | xdialog |
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| 17:46.22 | cadu | !xauth |
| 17:46.22 | dpkg | ask me about mit-magic-cookie, or really in xbase-clients |
| 17:46.27 | cadu | !mit-magic-cookie |
| 17:46.29 | dpkg | i guess mit-magic-cookie is 'su user_running_x -c "xauth extract - $DISPLAY" | xauth merge -' or "export XAUTHORITY=/home/<USER_RUNNING_X>/.Xauthority" (either (but not both) will let you run programs under X as root, when X was started by non-root), but xhost +localhost is damned insecure. Setting export XAUTHORITY=/home/$USER/.Xauthority in /etc/profile makes it automatic. 'zless /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz'. Also, see sshx |
| 17:46.34 | cadu | there it is. |
| 17:46.43 | hanasaki | wha does "incomplete " mean in this arp entry scribe-01.home.hanaden.com.1.1.10.in-addr.arpa (10.1.1.10) at <incomplete> on eth0 |
| 17:46.51 | CosmoDad | greycat: isn't that for building simple X apps? |
| 17:46.54 | greycat | yeah, must've been hard to guess mit-magic-cookie from greycat> CosmoDad: you'd need to steal their mit-magic-cookies |
| 17:47.05 | greycat | CosmoDad: apt-cache show xdialog |
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| 17:47.25 | cadu | !xprint |
| 17:47.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, xprint is is an advanced printing system which enables X11 applications to use devices like printers, FAX or create documents in formats like PostScript, PDF, PCL, etc. See http://xprint.mozdev.org. Re mozilla printing, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/07/msg00288.html and following messages. |
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| 17:47.38 | CosmoDad | greycat: I did.. |
| 17:47.39 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.49 | brick | thanks greycat, i must have been mixing it up with another autogen module file |
| 17:47.55 | greycat | so, you know that it's a drop-in replacement for dialog(1) |
| 17:47.56 | cadu | tarzeau: just a second |
| 17:47.56 | drac | tarzeau: i'm using via-rhine and it depends on mii.ko/mii.o |
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| 17:48.05 | tarzeau | drac: thanks alot! |
| 17:48.05 | greycat | brick: the one you can't touch it modules.conf |
| 17:48.06 | cadu | tarzeau: that |
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| 17:48.09 | greycat | s/it/is/ |
| 17:48.13 | cadu | tarzeau: i have 2 rhines at home too :) |
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| 17:48.24 | CosmoDad | greycat: dialog sounds interactive. I don't need that |
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| 17:48.33 | morbius` | how can I img my current config so I can install the exact settings onto another box? |
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| 17:48.42 | tarzeau | drac: nothing else aside mii.o ? |
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| 17:49.01 | tarzeau | cadu: i've gotten 4 amd64 with them, and somehow via-rhine.o didn't want to get loaded |
| 17:49.11 | drac | tarzeau: nothing else, mii is used by lot of network cards (media independent interface or something like that) |
| 17:49.12 | cadu | cadu: just mii man |
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| 17:49.16 | CosmoDad | greycat: I guess I'll just try xtalk |
| 17:49.17 | brick | greycat: right!! thanks again. |
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| 17:49.22 | FieldySnuts | hi moreon :) |
| 17:49.28 | greycat | CosmoDad: are you being INTENTIONALLY stupid today? |
| 17:49.29 | moreon | hi FieldySnuts |
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| 17:49.53 | greycat | arc1:~$ Xdialog --msgbox "AAAAAAAAAH!!!" 10 60 |
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| 17:50.17 | cadu | greycat: are you being INTENTIONALLY funny today? :) |
| 17:50.18 | ircdevil | EdibleText: ok - back -> yes it worked :o) |
| 17:50.22 | cadu | ^^ |
| 17:50.24 | greycat | cadu: I *do* try. |
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| 17:50.37 | cadu | greycat: me too, but i often fail miserably. |
| 17:50.39 | nekron | cadu, me responde :( |
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| 17:50.48 | greycat | and if he says "event not found", I'll probably just plonk him. |
| 17:50.49 | CosmoDad | greycat: thx. I don't mind the shouting |
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| 17:51.08 | cadu | greycat: i've _tried_ to help nekron but he keeps bugging me and still talking in portuguese here...you're freeeeeeee ! |
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| 17:51.16 | cadu | shoot at will. |
| 17:51.20 | cadu | aaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 17:51.23 | EdibleText | ircdevil, :) |
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| 17:51.35 | greycat | cadu: this is why we send them off to #debian-br |
| 17:51.37 | nekron | lier.. ;\ |
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| 17:51.47 | brick | nekron: vai pra #debian-br |
| 17:51.51 | abrotman | cadu: he won't go to #debian-br? |
| 17:51.53 | bahamat | hey guys, I'm looking for a way to do general account locking, i.e., if x number of logins fail for a particular user then lock the account for 1 hour |
| 17:52.01 | ircdevil | !debian-br nekron |
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| 17:52.08 | greycat | if they *all* go to #debian-br then they can at least wallow in their collective ignorance together |
| 17:52.09 | cadu | abrotman: i think he has some brazillian preconcept :) |
| 17:52.13 | ke6isf | !br nekron |
| 17:52.20 | ke6isf | !br |
| 17:52.20 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 17:52.20 | abrotman | that doesn't work |
| 17:52.24 | nekron | in debian-br nobody help me |
| 17:52.26 | cadu | greycat: what was your last phrase? |
| 17:52.26 | abrotman | cadu: concept of what? |
| 17:52.32 | ircdevil | greycat: and then we will send mwilson too ? |
| 17:52.32 | abrotman | cadu: go to #debian-br with him :) |
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| 17:52.33 | greycat | we didn't add separate command factoids for every language |
| 17:52.33 | cadu | abrotman: just kidding :) |
| 17:52.36 | nekron | and cadu doesn't tried help me too |
| 17:52.42 | brick | cadu meant conceit? |
| 17:52.42 | nekron | but it's ok |
| 17:52.43 | nekron | ;\ |
| 17:52.49 | ke6isf | nekron: How's your english? |
| 17:52.55 | abrotman | poor .. at best |
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| 17:53.02 | cadu | argh :) are you positively saying all brazillians should retreat to debian-br and never come back down here? -__- |
| 17:53.04 | abrotman | nekron: /j #debian-br .. and ask cadu to join you |
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| 17:53.10 | cadu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.13 | greycat | cadu: no, just all people who wish to speak portuguese |
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| 17:53.26 | greycat | english-speaking brazilians are welcome here |
| 17:53.27 | abrotman | cadu: if their english skills are really that poor that they can't be understood here .. doesn't it make sense ? |
| 17:53.33 | brick | greycat: imagine how humbling that must be for the real portuguese :) |
| 17:53.36 | nekron | ke6isf, my english is terrible.. |
| 17:53.41 | FieldySnuts | ~singlishsmite abrotman |
| 17:53.44 | cadu | greycat: i don't wish. but why were you saying that collective ignorance thing? that was _harsh_. |
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| 17:53.45 | FieldySnuts | booo |
| 17:53.50 | greycat | brick: english-speaking portuguese are welcome here too |
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| 17:54.07 | greycat | cadu: I get a lot harsher... |
| 17:54.15 | ircdevil | heheheh |
| 17:54.16 | ke6isf | nekron: Don't worry, my portugese is worse (i.e., no habla). =^^= Try asking in English? |
| 17:54.17 | Gnea | cadu: eh, get over it :) people have been slamming americans for being americans for centuries |
| 17:54.18 | abrotman | !tell FieldySnuts about cmd: singlishsmite (.*?) |
| 17:54.24 | abrotman | !tell FieldySnuts about literal cmd: singlishsmite (.*?) |
| 17:54.27 | cadu | abrotman: well, my english skills aren't teh best out there but at least i try. :) and sometimes i can even get myself understood. :) |
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| 17:54.49 | abrotman | cadu: you speak english fairly well .. or at least type it |
| 17:54.51 | miz | Is there any place where 'start as a login-shell/sub-shell' in context of terminal parameters is explained? |
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| 17:55.09 | ke6isf | Hmm... should come up with a 'yinglishsmite' as well. |
| 17:55.16 | greycat | "terminal parameters"? |
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| 17:55.31 | greycat | !wikifaq miz DotFiles |
| 17:55.32 | dpkg | miz: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:55.34 | nekron | cadu, i asked for you cause you said that help me.. ;\ |
| 17:55.34 | greycat | miz: that *might* help... |
| 17:55.39 | FieldySnuts | apt: CMD: singlishsmite (.*?) is ($1): <reply> $1: (Still say some more! Whack you then you know!|Say some more, lah! Like I care!|Ah, shaddup lah. You all fart and no shit only.|Why so (goondu|gorblock), you?) |
| 17:55.40 | apt | FieldySnuts: please, watch your language. |
| 17:55.45 | FieldySnuts | wtf? |
| 17:55.48 | FieldySnuts | lame |
| 17:55.56 | cadu | nekron: yeah but unfortunately this problem happens with me too, and i'm still waiting/searching for a solution. |
| 17:55.58 | abrotman | haha |
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| 17:56.05 | FieldySnuts | apt: CMD: singlishsmite (.*?) is ($1): <reply> $1: (Still say some more! Whack you then you know!|Say some more, lah! Like I care!|Ah, shaddup lah. You all fart and no shite only.|Why so (goondu|gorblock), you?) |
| 17:56.06 | apt | FieldySnuts: please, watch your language. |
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| 17:56.08 | FieldySnuts | LAME!! |
| 17:56.18 | Kasha | which crypt algoritm use in /etc/shadow and /etc/smbpasswd ? |
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| 17:56.24 | greycat | apt: filtering is shit. |
| 17:56.26 | apt | greycat: please, watch your language. |
| 17:56.28 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 17:56.28 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: teach ravenbird ? |
| 17:56.34 | ke6isf | apt: Damnit! |
| 17:56.36 | abrotman | apt: you stupid cock |
| 17:56.37 | ircdevil | "all your base are belong to us" |
| 17:56.37 | nekron | cadu, okz.. thkz.. |
| 17:56.39 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: CMD: singlishsmite (.*?) is ($1): <reply> $1: (Still say some more! Whack you then you know!|Say some more, lah! Like I care!|Ah, shaddup lah. You all fart and no shit only.|Why so (goondu|gorblock), you?) |
| 17:56.40 | abrotman | oh well |
| 17:56.40 | ravenbird | okay, FieldySnuts |
| 17:56.46 | FieldySnuts | fine. I love ravenbird more now then. |
| 17:56.50 | cadu | shit. |
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| 17:56.57 | ircdevil | that actaully has a wikipedia article -> |
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| 17:57.11 | FieldySnuts | apt: feces? |
| 17:57.12 | apt | well, feces is delicious |
| 17:57.14 | greycat | Kasha: man 3 crypt |
| 17:57.22 | cadu | delicious? o_O |
| 17:57.24 | greycat | apt: please, watch your language |
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| 17:57.26 | abrotman | apt: you're fucking stupid |
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| 17:57.28 | ircdevil | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us |
| 17:57.28 | ke6isf | FieldySnuts: Greaaat. |
| 17:57.29 | FieldySnuts | must be german</troll> |
| 17:57.31 | FieldySnuts | ~moron abrotman |
| 17:57.33 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: just shit i think |
| 17:57.47 | ke6isf | apt: merde |
| 17:57.48 | apt | it has been said that merde is shit in french |
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| 17:57.53 | cadu | apt: merda |
| 17:57.54 | apt | somebody said merda was shit, só que em português |
| 17:57.55 | greycat | apt: please, watch your language |
| 17:57.57 | ke6isf | ROTFL! |
| 17:57.58 | FieldySnuts | who has to watch your language now |
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| 17:58.18 | FieldySnuts | @moron apt |
| 17:58.18 | ravenbird | apt: You are moron #65 |
| 17:58.20 | miz | I mean the xterm/rxvt's +ls This option indicates that the shell that is started should not be a login shell (i.e., it will be a normal ??subshell??). option, what does it do? |
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| 17:58.32 | jdrake | I have tried to set dma using hdparm, but when I do I get this: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted |
| 17:58.39 | greycat | !wikifaq miz DotFiles |
| 17:58.40 | dpkg | miz: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:58.40 | jdrake | I am not sure what I can do to fix this |
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| 17:58.53 | Gathond | jdrake: probably no support for it in your kernel/hardware then |
| 17:59.02 | greycat | jdrake: you're not root. |
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| 17:59.46 | cadu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:59.48 | jdrake | greycat, I am most definiately root |
| 18:00.05 | greycat | jdrake: then you're missing a driver and the kernel's choice of errno is fucked. |
| 18:00.06 | Kasha | what crypt algoritm prefer to use in LDAP + Samba PDC + nss_ldap + pam_ldap ? |
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| 18:00.09 | alistair | i edited XF86Config, my left click wont work, what is the command to open it up here and edit it? i know what to edit |
| 18:00.12 | greycat | !applaud Linux |
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| 18:00.13 | dpkg | *clapclap* good show, Linux |
| 18:00.20 | jdrake | greycat, so I best install a new kernel then? |
| 18:00.25 | ke6isf | !tell alistair -about drxx |
| 18:00.32 | jdrake | it is using 2.6.8 |
| 18:00.35 | greycat | jdrake: or load the driver. |
| 18:00.36 | dasunt | What do you recommend for ripping CDs->ogg on the command line, including grabbing info from cddb? |
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| 18:00.46 | greycat | most likely the one for your motherboard's chipset |
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| 18:00.49 | resiak | !tell dasunt -about search |
| 18:00.49 | ircdevil | dasunt: jack |
| 18:00.51 | greycat | dasunt: abcde |
| 18:00.57 | elirips | hello. how can i prevent a module from being loaded automatically? i would like to prevent the wireless-modules to be loaded automatically, so that i can load them manually in case i need the wlan. |
| 18:01.09 | jdrake | i know my sata is an sil, but i don't know about the regular ide that I am using |
| 18:01.17 | ircdevil | elirips: edit /etc/modules ? |
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| 18:01.26 | ke6isf | elirips: modconf, perhaps? |
| 18:01.33 | dasunt | resiak: I've been looking. |
| 18:01.34 | alistair | nope, i still cant left click in X :D |
| 18:01.37 | Shadowcat | umm |
| 18:01.38 | greycat | elirips: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 18:01.49 | Shadowcat | what greycat said |
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| 18:02.03 | colmd | lo |
| 18:02.08 | ke6isf | alistair: What kind of mouse are you using? |
| 18:02.32 | colmd | how can i make debian work with a PS/2 mouse?? |
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| 18:02.36 | alistair | logitech mx 1000 wireless, it works ok normally, i just edit the zxis, i know what the default is so all i need to do it edit it back |
| 18:02.41 | s0undt3ch | hello ppl |
| 18:02.42 | ke6isf | colmd: In X or console? |
| 18:02.45 | drac | colmd: Make it use /dev/psaux and protocol ImPS/2 |
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| 18:02.47 | jetscreamer | alternatives symlinks for manpages seem like they/some 'may' be borked |
| 18:02.55 | s0undt3ch | I've just changed my server from gentoo to debian |
| 18:02.56 | ircdevil | !faq colmd |
| 18:02.57 | dpkg | colmd: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 18:03.06 | s0undt3ch | but I'm alreaddy missing some things |
| 18:03.08 | ircdevil | s0undt3ch: nice move |
| 18:03.08 | jetscreamer | !xmd5 |
| 18:03.08 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 18:03.13 | cadu | !applaud s0undt3ch |
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| 18:03.14 | dpkg | *clapclap* good show, s0undt3ch |
| 18:03.17 | cadu | missing? |
| 18:03.19 | ke6isf | s0undt3ch: Welcome. =^^= |
| 18:03.19 | cadu | !kill s0undt3ch |
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| 18:03.23 | ke6isf | !beer s0undt3ch |
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| 18:03.26 | RinzeWind | How do I tell mutt to reply also to myself when doing reply-to-all? |
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| 18:03.38 | elirips | thanks for the answers. just to be sure.. am i right that if i do not load the wirless-modules, the wlan-card is also not used, and therefore not using any power? |
| 18:03.41 | greycat | RinzeWind: probably with a send-hook |
| 18:03.49 | ircdevil | RinzeWind: #mutt or the excellent docs on mutt.org |
| 18:03.49 | s0undt3ch | wow thatks for all the good and bad ;) comments |
| 18:03.50 | alistair | say again dpkg.. |
| 18:03.53 | greycat | RinzeWind: or press <F1> and read, or ask #mutt |
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| 18:04.02 | ke6isf | s0undt3ch: Well, you seem to need help, what's up? |
| 18:04.03 | colmd | i had a mouse on ttyS0(serial) with X configured on it, but now changed mouse and use a PS/2 mouse |
| 18:04.04 | RinzeWind | Thx |
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| 18:04.14 | ke6isf | colmd: Ah, OK. |
| 18:04.16 | greycat | colmd: /dev/psaux |
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| 18:04.19 | alistair | great, i know what to do but i dont know how to get dpkg to tell me |
| 18:04.20 | ke6isf | !drxx colm |
| 18:04.21 | dpkg | colm: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:04.33 | cadu | !larswm |
| 18:04.33 | s0undt3ch | my vim isn't coloring anything, not even comments, which was enabled by default on gentoo, so how do I do this on deb? |
| 18:04.34 | dpkg | well, larswm is a hack on 9wm, which is a clone of the old Plan9 window manager, 8 1/2. ~75k on disk and only 1mb in memory, or #larswm |
| 18:04.36 | alistair | xmd5 |
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| 18:04.40 | jetscreamer | /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 18:04.40 | alistair | !xmd5 |
| 18:04.40 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 18:04.42 | greycat | alistair: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
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| 18:04.48 | jetscreamer | !botabuse |
| 18:04.48 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 18:04.57 | ircdevil | s0undt3ch: :set syntax on ? |
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| 18:05.11 | cadu | !botabuse-botabuse |
| 18:05.12 | cadu | ^^ |
| 18:05.15 | greycat | ircdevil: :syntax on |
| 18:05.21 | s0undt3ch | ircdevil: and I include that on .vimrr to enable by default? |
| 18:05.29 | ircdevil | s0undt3ch: :syntax on ? even |
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| 18:05.35 | ircdevil | s0undt3ch: good idea |
| 18:05.41 | cadu | ircdevil: even ":sy on" will do :) |
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| 18:05.58 | Ungy | I know there is no support for kde here but am I mistaken or is kde 3.4 up in unstable? |
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| 18:06.08 | alistair | !xmd5 |
| 18:06.08 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 18:06.18 | jetscreamer | what part of /msg dpkg |
| 18:06.29 | colmd | !xmd5 |
| 18:06.29 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 18:06.29 | Ronin | you know alistair if you msg the bot its easier to read |
| 18:06.32 | ircdevil | Ungy: its on debian.org -> sid -> packages |
| 18:06.36 | s0undt3ch | cadu: :sy on did the trick |
| 18:06.39 | jetscreamer | the / or msg |
| 18:06.41 | greycat | colmd: alistair: FUCKING STOP IT! |
| 18:06.43 | jetscreamer | or just the dpkg |
| 18:06.45 | cadu | s0undt3ch: good then. |
| 18:06.59 | colmd | lol |
| 18:07.07 | s0undt3ch | for now thats about it, althoug the tree is a lot diferent from gentoo's... |
| 18:07.21 | ke6isf | !tell colmd -about msg the bot |
| 18:07.23 | jetscreamer | must be the /msg |
| 18:07.30 | greycat | !tell colmd about /msg |
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| 18:07.35 | greycat | we've got that one too. |
| 18:07.36 | jetscreamer | he/they got the dpkg part |
| 18:07.51 | alistair | fucking stop it? Im trying to fix my mouse so stfu |
| 18:07.52 | jetscreamer | maybe their m's are broken...? |
| 18:07.59 | jetscreamer | uh ohj |
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| 18:08.05 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 18:08.09 | jetscreamer | that would be uhoh |
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| 18:08.18 | Ronin | alistair: so them msg the damn thing we dont need to read the factoid |
| 18:08.29 | greycat | jetscreamer: no, they typed an 'm' in md5 |
| 18:08.39 | jetscreamer | ah true |
| 18:08.47 | colmd | the fact is dpkg doesn't work for an error: '/var/lib/dpkg/available': no such file or directory |
| 18:09.03 | jetscreamer | ? |
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| 18:09.09 | jetscreamer | ah try it as root |
| 18:09.10 | ke6isf | colmd: what version of Debian are you running? |
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| 18:09.30 | ke6isf | !coffee greycat |
| 18:09.33 | colmd | sarge kernel 2.6.7 |
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| 18:09.50 | ke6isf | colmd: apt-get update? |
| 18:09.50 | jetscreamer | root |
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| 18:10.04 | s0undt3ch | ircdevil: well I added set syntax=on on vimrc, but it didnt do the trick |
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| 18:10.19 | greycat | s0undt3ch: you can press <F1> in vim to get help |
| 18:10.25 | greycat | (after ESC of course) |
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| 18:10.58 | Ungy | ircdevil ahh i did an apt-get update/upgrade and saw what looks like the whole kde sweet being upheld making me think 3.4 is there since I knew it was coming soon |
| 18:11.09 | *** mode/#debian [+o greycat] by ChanServ |
| 18:11.16 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@host86-133-94-182.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] by greycat |
| 18:11.21 | *** mode/#debian [-o greycat] by greycat |
| 18:11.28 | alistair | anyway i can login to root from gnome? my left click aint working, tis cool |
| 18:11.33 | greycat | alistair: no. |
| 18:11.40 | defcon8 | how can you do that when your are not an op? |
| 18:11.41 | alistair | and also im not root so i cant edit the file, i have it up but its read only, so cool |
| 18:11.48 | defcon8 | are you staff greycat ? |
| 18:11.50 | greycat | defcon8: /msg chanserv access #debian list |
| 18:11.51 | ke6isf | alistair: Start a terminal, 'su', and proceed. |
| 18:11.53 | greycat | defcon8: no |
| 18:12.05 | Ronin | defcon8: never mind greycat is definatly a faster typer |
| 18:12.06 | defcon8 | ok |
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| 18:13.30 | Hecate | In the network settings, when I click 'Enable Windows networking' it says SMB support isn't installed. When I check with aptitude, it says its already installed. What do I have to do? |
| 18:13.48 | jdrake | does the order of hda, hdb, etc. depend at all on the boot order for hardrives setup in bios? |
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| 18:14.12 | greycat | jdrake: no, those are determined by the cables |
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| 18:14.22 | jdrake | good |
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| 18:14.33 | femtoid | Is there a way to let apache have permissions to add a user to the system? |
| 18:14.33 | ircdevil | Ugly running sid and having problems with upgrades owns |
| 18:14.35 | greycat | jdrake: but grub's (hd0) and (hd1) and so on are BIOS-dependent. Maybe even random. |
| 18:14.49 | jdrake | right now grub sets root as (hd1,0) and that is hda when into debian |
| 18:14.51 | ke6isf | femtoid: I hope not. What do you need done? |
| 18:14.54 | greycat | !pal femtoid |
| 18:15.03 | ircdevil | Ugly unless you have a very good idea of that you are doing you should not be running sid. you should be running stable or testing at the most. |
| 18:15.06 | femtoid | ke6isf: its on an intranet. |
| 18:15.15 | ke6isf | femtoid: OK, but what do you need done? |
| 18:15.34 | femtoid | ke6isf: I need to add a bunch of users (for mail accounts) and then add them to our control database |
| 18:15.47 | ke6isf | femtoid: And you evidently want a web interface, correct? |
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| 18:15.55 | femtoid | ke6isf: that would be best, yes |
| 18:16.05 | ke6isf | femtoid: Under protest, I'd suggest webmin. |
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| 18:16.29 | ke6isf | femtoid: But to be honest, you're best off logging in via ssh and doing that. |
| 18:16.43 | femtoid | ke6isf: webmin is awful... and plus, I'd like to write my own interface so it can do multiple things (like adding to our account), I'd like to give our managers a page to go to to add users in one shot... each time someone is hired |
| 18:16.54 | femtoid | I currenly ssh in. |
| 18:16.57 | greycat | femtoid: and, uh... what does APACHE have to do with your job of adding users to a "control database"? |
| 18:16.59 | ke6isf | femtoid: How big is this company? |
| 18:17.12 | femtoid | Its getting bigger, quickly |
| 18:17.26 | femtoid | currenlty, I am the only one doing this, and we need to have the managers able to do it |
| 18:17.28 | greycat | managers adding users. |
| 18:17.28 | ke6isf | femtoid: OK, but *how big* is it now, how big is it getting? |
| 18:17.30 | Ungy | ircdevil oh I know what I am doing well enough that is why i was wondering I fear breakage in the hard sence with 3.4 |
| 18:17.31 | greycat | !pal femtoid |
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| 18:17.54 | femtoid | It is currently about 75 employees, and I havve no idea how much bigger it's getting |
| 18:18.09 | ircdevil | Ungy: hrm, aint there a mailing list for debian-kde or a #debian-kde? |
| 18:18.10 | ke6isf | femtoid: And what is the company's purpose in life? What do they do? |
| 18:18.17 | femtoid | why? |
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| 18:18.19 | femtoid | ;) |
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| 18:18.28 | ke6isf | femtoid: Trying to find most optimal solution, that's why. |
| 18:18.31 | Ungy | ircdevil, good point I will ask in #debian-kde |
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| 18:18.35 | femtoid | it is a liquor store |
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| 18:18.54 | ke6isf | femtoid: riiiight. |
| 18:19.05 | femtoid | ?? |
| 18:19.09 | Ungy | a liquor store with 75 employees? |
| 18:19.16 | greycat | and a computer? |
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| 18:19.28 | Ungy | must be freaking huge or is it a chain of stores |
| 18:19.30 | ke6isf | greycat: an intranet, no less. |
| 18:19.34 | femtoid | Why am I being doubted? |
| 18:19.35 | Ronin | Ungy: why not? i was going to say chain |
| 18:19.38 | femtoid | why does it MATTER? |
| 18:19.42 | greycat | BOOZE-mart |
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| 18:19.59 | Hecate | !repeat |
| 18:19.59 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:20.15 | Hecate | !ask |
| 18:20.16 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:20.17 | ircdevil | where do i find the package maintainers version of .fvwmrc from the sarge fvwm package ? |
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| 18:20.28 | greycat | ircdevil: does it have one? |
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| 18:20.46 | ke6isf | femtoid: OK, that aside, it's dangerous to have managers doing this. You're going to have to write your own web interface, but note that apache doesn't control user databases. |
| 18:20.55 | greycat | ircdevil: mine's got /usr/share/doc/fvwm/sample.fvwmrc/ |
| 18:21.03 | ircdevil | greycat: i am not sure - i have been running with the same rc file for 5 years. its time to get it uptodate with the latest fvwm - stuff is breaking |
| 18:21.05 | Anthro | Ungy: I've seen liquor stores as large as a supermarket, with long enough hours and a significant stockroom staff such that yes, 75 employees is plausible. |
| 18:21.13 | greycat | I don't think the newer fvwm packages *have* a "default .fvwmrc" file. |
| 18:21.15 | femtoid | ke6isf: I have an interface to add users to our databsases, I just need to add an adduser command to it. |
| 18:21.18 | Hecate | In the network settings of Gnome, when I click 'Enable Windows networking' it says SMB support isn't installed. When I check with aptitude, it says its already installed. What do I have to do? |
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| 18:21.51 | greycat | ircdevil: if you move yours aside and fire up a new instance of fvwm, the default system-wide one should have a menu that will generate one in ~/.fvwm/ for you |
| 18:22.00 | ke6isf | femtoid: Well, what user is running the web interface? |
| 18:22.04 | femtoid | www-user |
| 18:22.09 | Anthro | femtoid: If you don't mind my asking, why do the users need actual accounts? |
| 18:22.16 | ke6isf | femtoid: argh, you don't want that user having control on adduser. |
| 18:22.20 | femtoid | Anthro: b/c of our braindead qmail setup |
| 18:22.25 | femtoid | ke6isf: I know. |
| 18:22.27 | ircdevil | greycat: yeah - that rings a bell. hmmm i better read some docs too |
| 18:22.29 | valdyn | Hecate: are you using a custom kernel? |
| 18:22.31 | abrotman | qmail is never braindead |
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| 18:22.40 | greycat | qmail admins can be. |
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| 18:22.43 | Anthro | femtoid: Are you stuck with qmail? |
| 18:22.44 | femtoid | grepper: thanks |
| 18:22.50 | abrotman | why else would they choose qmail :) |
| 18:22.53 | femtoid | greycat: thanks (sorry grepper) |
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| 18:22.55 | ke6isf | femtoid: I fold. I can't think of anything, sorry. |
| 18:23.02 | femtoid | ke6isf: well thank you for trying |
| 18:23.04 | Hecate | valdyn: a custom kernel? nope I'm using a fresh installed version of Debian Sarge |
| 18:23.35 | femtoid | Anthro: our qmail setup has been chugging along nicely for about 3 years. I don't know if I want to try to get mysql virutal domains setup right now |
| 18:23.42 | Ungy | what the hell is lilo on about? |
| 18:23.48 | greycat | ke6isf: his problem is that he's lazy. he should fix up adduser to do the database magic he needs, ssh in, and add users HIMSELF instead of trying to teach managers to do it. |
| 18:23.51 | abrotman | that doesn't make sense .. does it ? |
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| 18:23.54 | ke6isf | Ungy: I have no idea. An override to +E, perhaps? |
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| 18:24.12 | ke6isf | greycat: Indeed. But then, giving managers access to adduser is just a Bad Idea. |
| 18:24.28 | femtoid | greycat: and since when is lazyness a bad thing - these are employees that I see once before they're fired for some stuipd reason |
| 18:24.42 | greycat | Ungy: they're making +E the "default" and if you want to receive /msgs from unregistered users, you have to specifically allow it |
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| 18:24.53 | Hecate | valdyn: I'm a noob even if I knew the way to customize the kernel I woulnd't dare to do it ;) |
| 18:24.53 | ke6isf | greycat: Ah, that explains it. |
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| 18:24.56 | femtoid | I have much better things to do with my time then add users 3 different places, having them sit here for 20 minutes, when I could just write a php app to do it. |
| 18:24.58 | Ungy | greycat holy crap |
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| 18:25.04 | ke6isf | femtoid: Then hire a staff. |
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| 18:25.16 | femtoid | we have one - managers |
| 18:25.21 | nvz | !noob |
| 18:25.21 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 18:25.21 | femtoid | they manage these people |
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| 18:25.25 | valdyn | Hecate: alright, i cant identify what exactly you are doing since im not using debian/sarge, but you probably do not have samba installed? |
| 18:25.25 | Anthro | femtoid: If you just want email accounts for lots of people, I believe courier or cyrus or hula might serve you better. Actually, it's possible they can work alongside qmail. |
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| 18:25.39 | femtoid | I am using courier-imapd |
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| 18:25.42 | greycat | Anthro: or he could fix the qmail config. or he could fix adduser. |
| 18:25.49 | greycat | BUT NO.... he's hell bent on doing it in php. |
| 18:25.52 | femtoid | greycat: what do you mean fix adduser |
| 18:25.54 | ke6isf | femtoid: No, *you* hire an *IT* staff. It is not a manager's job to adduser, it's IT or *gack* HR.. |
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| 18:26.00 | femtoid | greycat: I'm not hell bent on anything |
| 18:26.03 | greycat | he's probably a web "author" who's been roped into a sysadmin job |
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| 18:26.25 | Anthro | greycat: Actually, it sounds like he shouldn't mess with users at all. If they just need email addresses, it's foolish to have another user on the system |
| 18:26.25 | ke6isf | greycat: Hey, he knows PHP! He must know how to be a sysadmin, too! |
| 18:26.29 | femtoid | ke6isf: I don't want them executing adduser directly, I'd like them to fill out all the important stuff about these poeple then it does everything |
| 18:26.29 | Hecate | valdyn: Allright well if I check with aptitude it tells me the smb thing is installed... maybe if you know the exact package name I'll verify |
| 18:26.30 | Ungy | greycat how abotu a DBA roped into being a sysadmin who got roped into being a web developer |
| 18:26.40 | greycat | Ungy: sounds bad. |
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| 18:26.49 | valdyn | Hecate: smb thing? is the package 'samba' installed? |
| 18:26.53 | femtoid | I'm so glad #debian is an even more helpful place then it was |
| 18:27.04 | Ungy | fentoid so you want them to validate through a javascript for then make a call to adduser witht eh parameters? |
| 18:27.05 | Hecate | valdyn: lemme check for an accurate reply |
| 18:27.07 | ke6isf | femtoid: Then have them send you an email, and get it when you get around to it. This is how FedexKinkos, AmerisourceBergen, and countless other companies do it. |
| 18:27.14 | valdyn | Hecate: dpkg -l samba |
| 18:27.17 | Anthro | ke6isf,greycat: come on now, femtoid came up with a plausible solution and was trying to make it work. We all wind up with unreasonable requirements. |
| 18:27.31 | Ungy | greycat you help me develope I will help you dba ;-) |
| 18:27.40 | Hecate | dpkg -l samba |
| 18:27.41 | dpkg | ii samba 1.8-14 hecate's private stamp collection |
| 18:27.47 | greycat | Anthro: requiring him to do his own job instead of breaking security so he can hand it off to a drooling PHB is not a reasonable requirement either. |
| 18:27.50 | femtoid | ke6isf: so seding an email with a plaintext password (two actually) is a better solution then a controled web frontend? |
| 18:27.51 | Masterkong | ooh.. interesting... do anyone of you know why aptitude uninstalled basically everything importatn when i adden alsa-utils |
| 18:27.57 | valdyn | Hecate: ehe, in a shell, not here |
| 18:27.57 | Masterkong | ? |
| 18:27.58 | greycat | err.. is not an UNreasonable requirement. |
| 18:27.59 | ke6isf | Anthro: That's my suggestion for "right now", though. The problem I see is that he's roped into this because of the typical suit mentality that anyone in computers knows everything of computers. |
| 18:28.04 | Hecate | okaydookee |
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| 18:28.40 | Ungy | femtoid how about you make the request page put the request into the database you review the crap then you execute the script? |
| 18:28.41 | femtoid | ke6isf: I won't arguee that I do more then I should, but so what? I need a solution for adding users, and the current way is more broken then I can stand with the influx of new employees |
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| 18:28.50 | femtoid | Ungy: I was considering that as well |
| 18:28.51 | nvz | I hate that. when people pick at my brain about random computer stuff |
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| 18:29.08 | nvz | as if I dont have a specific area of knowledge and interest |
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| 18:29.18 | ke6isf | femtoid: So, then, for now, they send you an email. You get to it when you get to it. That's part of the privelege of being a sysadmin, if other things come before addusering, then they come first, plain and simple. |
| 18:29.19 | femtoid | greycat, ke6isf: instead of just making fun of me, how about a good solution - gc, you mentoned fixing adduser? |
| 18:29.23 | Lee__ | I always feel violated at the suggestion of brain picking. |
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| 18:29.39 | femtoid | It HAS been put off... I also don't like the idea of passwords in emails. |
| 18:29.39 | greycat | nvz: you work with computers?? OOHHH, THEN YOU CAN FIX MY INTARNET IT GOES TO THE VIAGRA PAGE WHEN I CLICK "HOME"!! |
| 18:29.46 | Anthro | femtoid: For a temporary solution you can fake all the email addresses with a single catchall address and use procmail to deliver them to appropriate Maildir folders which are served by courier-imap. |
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| 18:30.04 | Hecate | valdyn: Ok don't seems installed I'll check for Samba in aptitude |
| 18:30.09 | femtoid | Anthro: how would I create the Maildir? |
| 18:30.11 | Lee__ | nvz: my web is broken with popups. can you reinstall it? |
| 18:30.14 | greycat | femtoid: adduser |
| 18:30.24 | greycat | femtoid: /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake /etc/skel/Maildir |
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| 18:30.27 | greycat | femtoid: then adduser makes one. |
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| 18:30.29 | greycat | DUH! |
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| 18:30.33 | Ungy | greycat qmail??? |
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| 18:30.37 | ma3x | why when if i install ksysguard, it wants to remove 100 or more other packages? |
| 18:30.42 | femtoid | OMFG. |
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| 18:30.48 | ke6isf | Gotta go to work. Later. |
| 18:31.00 | Anthro | femtoid: Adding a new user would require nothing more than adding a line to the courier userdb, adding some templated lines to the .procmailrc, and creating a maildir. |
| 18:31.00 | femtoid | greycat: Anthro's solution is to not use adduser. I know it creates a Maildir/ that is WHY I USE IT NOW |
| 18:31.01 | nvz | greycat: I think some people do it as a defence mechanism. they hear you work with computers and they are so stupid they try making casual tech conversation about something you neither know or care about |
| 18:31.04 | Anthro | femtoid: There are scripts. |
| 18:31.07 | valdyn | ma3x: you're not going to tell us that you are using debian/sid, are you? |
| 18:31.21 | femtoid | Anthro: but then I'd have the same permission issues no? |
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| 18:31.31 | ma3x | why you guys all hate sid so much? |
| 18:31.40 | Anthro | femtoid: What are the permission issues, exactly? I think I missed that. |
| 18:31.46 | Ungy | ma3x it is unstable meaning they don't support it here |
| 18:31.55 | valdyn | ma3x: no one hates sid. |
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| 18:31.59 | femtoid | Anthro: my origional idea was have php call adduser - but it can't due to permissions... |
| 18:32.07 | ma3x | ok |
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| 18:32.09 | pelle5293463 | is there somebody from polen who can help me please? |
| 18:32.15 | Ungy | ma3x as I was told #debian-kde |
| 18:32.17 | greycat | !polish |
| 18:32.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, polish is spoken in #debian.pl (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. polska -> #debian.pl |
| 18:32.23 | nvz | ma3x: its not side we hate, its the people who use it and dont meet the prerequisites |
| 18:32.25 | Daveman | heh |
| 18:32.30 | nvz | s/side/sid/ |
| 18:32.34 | valdyn | ma3x: sid is just 'buggy' by definition, so what you are experiencing is quite the usual. |
| 18:32.38 | pa | sorry, can i use arrows with xpdf launched with -fullscreen? it seems to not work... |
| 18:32.46 | Hecate | Eh they are talking about Poland on the news theses days... |
| 18:32.52 | Daveman | nvz++ |
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| 18:33.05 | ma3x | valdyn, I'm happy with sid, just some minor stuff like this happens from time to time |
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| 18:33.13 | ma3x | and sometimes you gotta be very careful for the upgrades |
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| 18:33.22 | Ungy | actually valadyn ma3x is experiencing the fact that the package he is requesting from the sid repository is 3.4 meaning he woudl have to completly upgrade kde |
| 18:33.29 | ircdevil | pa: use page up and down |
| 18:33.30 | Anthro | femtoid: You don't want to call adduser because that requires root permissions. You can't give www-data permission to do root things because it is woefully insecure. |
| 18:33.32 | greycat | KDE is broken in sid. Deal with it. |
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| 18:33.43 | valdyn | Ungy: which is currently not possible. |
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| 18:33.44 | pa | ircdevil: so cant i scroll? |
| 18:33.49 | pa | uff... |
| 18:33.59 | Ungy | valdyn, correct ;-) |
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| 18:34.15 | Anthro | femtoid: You can, however, make the files I mentioned owned by www-data. This makes a very restricted subset of functionality available for screwing up. |
| 18:34.16 | femtoid | Anthro: yea.. I get that now - greycat and ke6isf kindly pointed that out in a friendly and helpful manner |
| 18:34.18 | nvz | ahh! AHHH! Ahhh! AHHHHH! ahh! AHHH! ahhhhhh!!!!! is that how you deal with kde broken in sid? |
| 18:34.18 | valdyn | ma3x: you can either use only the fraction of kde that is working in sid currently, or just not install ksysguard. |
| 18:34.23 | ma3x | Ungy, but the new KDE will go into unstable in a very short time right? |
| 18:34.27 | ircdevil | pa: oh. hmmm xpdf -fullscreen behaves wierd. i only uses it for presentations - and there is no scrolling |
| 18:34.30 | colmd | exim4-config.postinst: [WARN} Installed debconf version is broken. Aborting preconfigure. |
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| 18:34.31 | valdyn | !info ksysguardd sid |
| 18:34.34 | dpkg | ksysguardd: (system guard daemon for KDE), section utils, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 56 kB, Installed size: 116 kB |
| 18:34.36 | greycat | nvz: if that works for you, sure. |
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| 18:34.41 | femtoid | Anthro: so where would i make the new Maildir/ s? |
| 18:34.45 | colmd | lol what's that? |
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| 18:35.21 | nvz | I cant decide which of these pcs to host my samba shares now. |
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| 18:35.26 | colmd | exim4-config.postinst: [WARN] Installed debconf version is broken. Aborting preconfigure. <--- what can I do? |
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| 18:35.35 | nvz | I hate when I get more pcs and I cant decide what their purpose will be |
| 18:35.35 | Anthro | femtoid: Even better would probably be making the files owned by some other non-user account and creating a script to do all the work, then give www-data passwordless sudo permission to run that script as that user. |
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| 18:35.56 | Ungy | ma3x it is being moved in I dunno when it will be completed but if you look at all the packages being held back you might want to think twice before upgrading unless you got a lot of time on your hands |
| 18:36.00 | femtoid | Anthro: THANK YOU! that is a good solution... |
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| 18:36.12 | femtoid | wow, not everyone is a flaming ass in here! |
| 18:36.16 | greycat | Anthro: I've heard worse. |
| 18:36.27 | Anthro | femtoid: Okay, create an account for these purposes. Call it multimail or something. |
| 18:36.28 | FieldySnuts | ~lart femtoid |
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| 18:36.45 | greycat | femtoid: if we're being "flaming asses" it's because we're TRYING to protect you from yourself. |
| 18:36.56 | greycat | as you can see, we failed. |
| 18:37.00 | Anthro | femtoid: Edit your qmail config so that multimail receives all messages not destined to recognized users. |
| 18:37.02 | ma3x | Ungy, I have like 90 packages being held |
| 18:37.22 | colmd | how can I reinstall debconf dpkg and others if debconf is broken? |
| 18:37.27 | Anthro | femtoid: in multimail's home directory, create a .procmailrc, which I'll get back to. |
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| 18:37.32 | Ungy | greycat you can lead a cow to water but he is still a freaking stupid cow |
| 18:37.35 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: start an mta war |
| 18:37.36 | ravenbird | smail rulez |
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| 18:37.47 | femtoid | greycat: I apprecate that - but don't you think you could have said something along the lines of, "That is a bad idea - here is a safer alternative to accomplish what you want" instead of first attacking my company, then my role in that company, then my motivation for wanting to make this change in the first place? |
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| 18:37.58 | cahoot | Ungy: cow - he - bull? |
| 18:38.02 | Anthro | femtoid: you need to install courier-imap for this, incidentally. |
| 18:38.08 | femtoid | I"m using courier |
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| 18:38.22 | _jchaoul | anyone heard of the freebsd kernel in the debian source repository? |
| 18:38.28 | FieldySnuts | uhm. |
| 18:38.31 | jetscreamer | you need to learn c or gtk or something in order to make forms for database entry? or is there a 'wysiwyg editor for idiots who are used to microsoft'? |
| 18:38.38 | ma3x | Ungy, what will happen if I do what apt-get wants me to do (remove, install, upgrade all those packages). Will I lose anything? |
| 18:38.39 | Ungy | cahoot good point |
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| 18:38.46 | Anthro | femtoid: using maildirmake, create ~multimail/Maildir. |
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| 18:39.03 | greycat | femtoid: "That is a bad idea. Here is a safer alternative to accomplish your goal. Fix adduser so that it adds that database crap you require, then use adduser to add each user yourself." |
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| 18:39.06 | Ungy | ma3x apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 18:39.12 | femtoid | greycat: THANK YOU. |
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| 18:39.19 | _jchaoul | greycat what do you think about it? |
| 18:39.24 | greycat | "it"? |
| 18:39.25 | Ungy | ma3x then read what is happening to other people and decide for yourself if it is worth the risk |
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| 18:39.29 | _jchaoul | makes you wonder if they'll try to make a Debian GNU/BSD |
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| 18:39.36 | greycat | "it" is a pronoun, and therefore leads to ambiguity and vagueness. |
| 18:39.38 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 18:39.38 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY BADGERS CRY! |
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| 18:39.54 | femtoid | greycat: I also didn't know that /usr/sbin/adduser is a perl script |
| 18:39.58 | femtoid | that helps |
| 18:40.04 | jetscreamer | or perhaps it's better phrased ' what are some good front ends for databases, not particular which db ' |
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| 18:40.18 | greycat | jetscreamer: perl's DBD modules |
| 18:40.19 | deepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.20 | deepan | (00:21:31) deepan: that link people use to spread firefox... |
| 18:40.30 | greycat | deepan: on mozilla.org? |
| 18:40.30 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.30 | jetscreamer | thanks |
| 18:40.34 | jetscreamer | or 10x |
| 18:40.39 | femtoid | spreadfirefox.com |
| 18:40.40 | Anthro | femtoid: in /etc/courier/authdaemonrc you should set authmodulelist to authuserdb. You may, at some point, wish to use a database instead., |
| 18:40.43 | Ungy | deepan you right click on it and save image as? |
| 18:40.46 | jetscreamer | 10 times what i dunno, but there it is |
| 18:41.03 | greycat | Ungy: unless they do the same thing userfriendly.org does. |
| 18:41.06 | femtoid | Anthro: will that effect the current accounts (and Maildirs) we have? |
| 18:41.07 | Lee__ | spread firefox? that sounds very dirty. |
| 18:41.11 | greycat | in which case, you screen-shot it. |
| 18:41.11 | Anthro | femtoid: No. |
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| 18:41.19 | Ungy | greycat Illiad is a bit strange |
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| 18:41.20 | Anthro | femtoid: Wait, yes. |
| 18:41.24 | femtoid | oh :( |
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| 18:41.34 | femtoid | I think I'll just put all pending adds in a database... |
| 18:41.49 | Anthro | femtoid: Sorry. I think you need authuserdb and authpam as well. |
| 18:42.01 | Ungy | greycat and I dunno why anyone would protect a distributable image? |
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| 18:42.28 | el_mejor | ola |
| 18:42.38 | femtoid | How do most people admin qmail - to allow users to change their mail password? |
| 18:42.43 | greycat | Ungy: I suspect it involves money somehow. Don't know. |
| 18:42.45 | Anthro | femtoid: I believe you can do it as a hybrid system, with some accounts authenticating against a database (either the simple userdb or a real RDBMS). |
| 18:42.55 | Ungy | femtoid well you can do it through squirrel mail |
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| 18:42.58 | greycat | femtoid: maybe #qmail could give suggestions |
| 18:43.03 | femtoid | Ungy: really? cool. |
| 18:43.14 | Ungy | femtoid it takes a bit of customization though |
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| 18:43.21 | femtoid | I'll have to try it later, my mailbox is too large for sm |
| 18:43.24 | Anthro | femtoid: Anyhow, you then need to write your addmailbox script. |
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| 18:43.45 | laurens_ | damnit. |
| 18:43.58 | nvz | greycat: was there ever a package 'lspci' ? |
| 18:43.58 | jetscreamer | janet |
| 18:44.03 | laurens_ | I forgot a few kernel modules, so I decided to recompile. |
| 18:44.06 | laurens_ | nvz: pciutils? |
| 18:44.11 | el_mejor | hello |
| 18:44.13 | laurens_ | got a new shiny kernel |
| 18:44.16 | laurens_ | 2.6.13... |
| 18:44.16 | greycat | nvz: more likely pciutils |
| 18:44.19 | nvz | laurens_: *nods* I swear it used to be lspci |
| 18:44.20 | laurens_ | compiled it |
| 18:44.21 | Anthro | femtoid: It has to add a line to the database (either by adding a line to userdb.dat then compiling it or with a simple SQL command to your real DB). It has to create a maildir with Maildirmake. And it has to add lines to the procmailrc. |
| 18:44.27 | laurens_ | installed it |
| 18:44.29 | laurens_ | guess what |
| 18:44.32 | Ungy | femtoid personally I use postfix with a mysql backend |
| 18:44.34 | Anthro | femtoid: Is it clear, now, what's going on? |
| 18:44.36 | laurens_ | they broke all wirelesses again |
| 18:44.38 | jetscreamer | you fuxored it |
| 18:44.44 | femtoid | Anthro: yes, thank you |
| 18:44.45 | laurens_ | every wireless driver outside of the kernel |
| 18:44.48 | pelle7862134 | hi im having one small problem i have soud card CMI330 i cant set it last time when i had Mandrake i use sndconfig bud i cant find it in debian sarge please help mi where is sndconfig |
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| 18:44.50 | laurens_ | that has to compile to the kernel |
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| 18:44.58 | laurens_ | has to be partially rewritten |
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| 18:45.02 | femtoid | Ungy: does postfix use - or + for mail extensions (if it has them) |
| 18:45.05 | RogueDopple | oh no wirless broke boo hoo |
| 18:45.06 | ma3x | how can I build a package from the wxGTK dir with fakeroot? |
| 18:45.11 | ma3x | is it debian/rules ? |
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| 18:45.36 | laurens_ | RogueDopple: I'm not complaining about the wireless not working, I'm complaining about kernel devs that yank stuff out at a random basis. |
| 18:45.37 | Ungy | femtoid mail extensions? never used them? |
| 18:45.42 | nvz | greycat: its been bugging me I remember clearly installing less and lspci every time I installed and last night it told me there was no package lspci and I found out it was in pciutils. I never remember installing pciutils in the past 5 years using debian. I am loosing my mind |
| 18:46.01 | laurens_ | RogueDopple: wasn't the idea that if you stayed in the same major kernel release (ie 2.x.y.z and z changes but y does not) that you dont experience anything major? |
| 18:46.04 | Anthro | femtoid: You'll have to do some experimentation, of course, and I forgot the step about adding a line to /etc/sudoers with visudo to allow www-data to run the addmailbox script without a password as the multimail user. Be very careful with that and the script itself, since those are the security holes. |
| 18:46.07 | laurens_ | ie only bugfixes |
| 18:46.08 | femtoid | Ungy: like ungy-nospam@whereever.com - qmail and gmail have them |
| 18:46.11 | Anthro | potential security holes |
| 18:46.15 | greycat | nvz: I don't remember |
| 18:46.16 | el_mejor | ola |
| 18:46.21 | femtoid | Anthro: Ok |
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| 18:46.42 | alistair_ | What flavour of debian is would be the best to run on an old machine and that has no internet, generic? |
| 18:46.43 | Anthro | femtoid: Are you providing webmail, IMAP, or both? |
| 18:46.44 | femtoid | I think sendmail also have them |
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| 18:46.47 | greycat | alistair_: sarge |
| 18:46.53 | nvz | alistair_: sarge |
| 18:46.54 | Ungy | femtoid check postfix.org |
| 18:46.55 | femtoid | Anthro: both |
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| 18:46.59 | femtoid | Ungy: looking now |
| 18:47.01 | laurens_ | nvz: I strongly doubt that there was ever a package called lspci |
| 18:47.08 | laurens_ | nvz: they were always hosted and developped at kernel.org |
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| 18:47.19 | pelle7862134 | please who can help me set CMI8330 and find sndconfig? |
| 18:47.19 | laurens_ | nvz: one big package containing all the pci tools |
| 18:47.22 | laurens_ | same for usb btw |
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| 18:48.04 | Ungy | Anthro I use Courrier for my imap with postfix backend similar to http://www.workaround.org 's tutorial |
| 18:48.05 | alistair_ | which flavour? |
| 18:48.08 | Anthro | femtoid: Ah. Well, before you go through all this you might look into hula. The only problem with that is that it currently only works if it is its own SMTP server. Could you add a separate machine to be your intranet machine, perhaps? |
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| 18:48.35 | nvz | laurens_: I think I have a pretty good memory I know my social security number of the top of my head.. among other thigns.. any number I use I know.. I can still remember serials to Win98, Office 97, codes to Nintendo games, like Mike Tyson's Punch out.. its bugging me I clearly remember installing lspci as a package |
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| 18:48.36 | femtoid | Anthro: yes |
| 18:48.42 | pelle7862134 | where is sndconfig in debian sarge? |
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| 18:49.17 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: why would you want that? |
| 18:49.27 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: what soundcard you got (lspci)? |
| 18:49.29 | pelle7862134 | i cant set CMI8330 |
| 18:49.39 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: what says lspci about your card? |
| 18:49.42 | femtoid | Ok, thanks for all the hellp |
| 18:49.51 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: kernel version? alsa or not? |
| 18:49.52 | Anthro | femtoid: So if you have a separate machine, it's way easy. Make it a hula server. Have your primary mail machine forward all mail that it cannot deliver locally to hula, and hula has a nice web-based administration interface. |
| 18:49.59 | pelle7862134 | yes alsa |
| 18:50.05 | pelle7862134 | kernel 2.6 |
| 18:50.13 | jetscreamer | gd how about some front end for an idiot :) |
| 18:50.15 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: and who manufactured your sound card? |
| 18:50.24 | pelle7862134 | i ned only sndconfig that all |
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| 18:50.35 | pelle7862134 | where is it |
| 18:50.39 | Anthro | Ungy: what workaround? I use exim4 to deliver mail and courier to serve IMAP. |
| 18:50.40 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: it's gone |
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| 18:50.54 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: here http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=sndconfig |
| 18:50.58 | jetscreamer | pelle7862134: it's not a debian script i don't think |
| 18:51.01 | tarzeau | pelle7862134: download the source package, and debuild it... |
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| 18:51.09 | SimonRaven | try alsaconf ... |
| 18:51.18 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: it used to be there (from redhat?) |
| 18:51.34 | jetscreamer | pelle7862134: probably, discover/hotplug are loading oss modules instead of alsa |
| 18:51.40 | jetscreamer | tarzeau: sounds correct |
| 18:51.43 | SimonRaven | /nick root-powerpc970 |
| 18:51.55 | Ungy | Anthro on workaround.org there is a setup for Postfix with courier and mysql with amavisd spamassasin and clamav |
| 18:52.23 | ma3x | if i use tar -zxf file.tar.gz i always delete the .tar.gz after extraction. Isn't there some option like tar -zxfd to delete the file after it was extracted? |
| 18:52.25 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: kudzu is still there... |
| 18:52.29 | pelle7862134 | thank |
| 18:52.42 | tarzeau | ma3x: no |
| 18:53.05 | ma3x | too bad tarzeau |
| 18:53.12 | ma3x | it would make work much more easier |
| 18:53.18 | tarzeau | ma3x: make an alias |
| 18:53.18 | Anthro | Ungy: Okay. I have few enough users (my wife and me) that exim4 + procmail + spamc/spamd is sufficient. I don't need amavisd or clamav. |
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| 18:53.29 | tarzeau | ma3x: some people want to keep the tar.gz |
| 18:53.43 | ma3x | tarzeau, what kind of alias? |
| 18:53.47 | Anthro | Ungy: and courier's userdb is sufficient, too. |
| 18:53.51 | tarzeau | ma3x: one that && rm whatever |
| 18:54.01 | ma3x | tarzeau, no idea hwo |
| 18:54.05 | FieldySnuts | ~annoy Redhat |
| 18:54.08 | tarzeau | ma3x: what's your shell? |
| 18:54.13 | FieldySnuts | son of bitch |
| 18:54.14 | ma3x | tarzeau, bash |
| 18:54.31 | tarzeau | ma3x: man bash, then / alias |
| 18:54.34 | nvz | about bridging. the howto docs show use of these brctl commands... do I have to type these to bridge my interfaces everytime the machine boots or is this stuff put into interfaces file or somewhere else? |
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| 18:54.58 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 18:54.58 | dpkg | 14:47 < sobersabre> "they've told me that to connect to the internet i needed modem, now i am holding it in my hand... how do i connect?" |
| 18:55.22 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 18:55.22 | dpkg | somebody said debstats was managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 18:55.28 | ma3x | tarzeau, just to get the idea clear, what would the alias look like? For eg. dtar file.tar.gz (will extract and delete it) ? |
| 18:55.58 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes you'd make an alias/script to tar -xzvf $1 && rm $1 |
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| 18:56.24 | nvz | damn chasis intrusion.. that is the dumbest bios feature I have ever seen |
| 18:56.31 | tarzeau | ma3x: but what you really want is transparent handling of tar.gz |
| 18:56.41 | Ungy | Anthro you sure that sounds like a lot of e-mail to handle ;-) |
| 18:56.46 | tarzeau | nvz: one that's more horrible is "keyboard not found, press f1 to continue" |
| 18:56.55 | nvz | tarzeau: heh. |
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| 18:56.57 | jetscreamer | i'm #20 with a diff nick... :/ |
| 18:56.57 | tarzeau | nvz: and yes, there's machines that you can't turn this crap off |
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| 18:57.01 | Ungy | Anthro I only get about 40,000 e-mails a day through my 3 servers ;-) |
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| 18:57.20 | namaste | hi, whats the package for java called? |
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| 18:57.26 | jetscreamer | !java |
| 18:57.26 | dpkg | a platform independent OO language. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive, consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> (for starters). |
| 18:57.26 | tarzeau | Ungy: which address/domain? |
| 18:57.27 | nvz | tarzeau: well luckily I found and disabled the stupid ALERT! Case has been opened messages |
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| 18:57.31 | SimonRaven | there is one. |
| 18:57.34 | SimonRaven | isn't |
| 18:57.35 | greycat | namaste: /msg dpkg install java |
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| 18:57.55 | tarzeau | namaste: http://gnu.ethz.ch/debian/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb |
| 18:57.58 | Anthro | Ungy: Heh. Did I mention fetchmail? No, between the two of us we *might* get 1000 a day. |
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| 18:58.08 | jetscreamer | ma3x didn't know that much either. 36.0% of his/her lines were questions. |
| 18:58.08 | phaedrus_ | elllo |
| 18:58.12 | phaedrus_ | anyone wanna field some ?s on wine ? |
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| 18:58.19 | nvz | man I asked for it, but now this pc wont boot. I should have never formatted it with a windows filesystem :P |
| 18:58.21 | greycat | tarzeau: that's surely illegal... or would be in the .us. |
| 18:58.25 | Anthro | phaedrus_: I like shiraz. |
| 18:58.30 | greycat | tarzeau: I don't know .ch law. |
| 18:58.30 | phaedrus_ | lol |
| 18:58.32 | SimonRaven | wtf is it europeans taking the abo nicks? cultural appropriation, dude |
| 18:58.33 | phaedrus_ | mee too |
| 18:58.37 | Ungy | tarzeau, I am afraid to say I work for a scummy marketing firm that also handles support for a bunch of online casino and pokerooms ;-) |
| 18:58.38 | tarzeau | greycat: i don't know either. |
| 18:59.01 | vortec | thanks tarzeau |
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| 18:59.11 | jetscreamer | streuner couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 128 joins during this reporting period! |
| 18:59.19 | jetscreamer | :p |
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| 18:59.31 | iostream | Hey. Does anyone know how to make it so that JEdit doesnt use a dot to indicate new line? |
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| 18:59.32 | tarzeau | greycat: how can i find out? ask who at sun.com ? |
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| 18:59.53 | tarzeau | iostream: jedit doesn't exist |
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| 19:00.07 | iostream | tarzeau: Are you sure... I...? |
| 19:00.15 | tarzeau | iostream: which package? |
| 19:00.17 | atom-z | whats the safest way to get a /dev/cdrom into a chroot? |
| 19:00.17 | nvz | ah I think I figured it out.. the boot order was wrong.. however I dont know how I booted off the windows cd to partition the drive, then I boot again and it wont boot from the cd. if the order was wrong it should not have booted from the cd ever |
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| 19:00.37 | iostream | tarzeau: jedit.org |
| 19:00.47 | jetscreamer | !jboss |
| 19:00.50 | jetscreamer | hah |
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| 19:01.25 | abrotman | i have a -6 mode? |
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| 19:01.53 | abrotman | guess not |
| 19:01.55 | cahoot | slightly depressing |
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| 19:02.10 | hyksos | hi, is there a way with gdb to change the value of a variable while debugging? |
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| 19:02.21 | ma3x | jetscreamer, what didn't you know? |
| 19:02.22 | Anthro | hyksos: Yes. set foo = bar |
| 19:02.32 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 19:02.33 | ma3x | tarzeau, I wanted to say I made the script, and thanks a LOT! |
| 19:02.35 | hyksos | Anthro :thanks |
| 19:02.41 | ma3x | jetscreamer ma3x didn't know that much either. 36.0% of his/her lines were questions. |
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| 19:03.06 | jetscreamer | yes that's what it says... cut&paste |
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| 19:03.34 | jetscreamer | ma3x: here http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
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| 19:04.29 | tarzeau | iostream: i don't like it. |
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| 19:05.45 | bonez39 | I run 'aptitude install' and find it wants to remove 'cupsys-bsd'... why does aptitude want to remove packages? |
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| 19:06.30 | Gathond | bonez39: what do you try to install? , whatever it is probablyu conflicts with cupsys-bsd |
| 19:06.31 | tarzeau | bonez39: are you installing lprng ? |
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| 19:06.45 | Gathond | bonez39: or perhaps something the package depends on conflicts with it |
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| 19:07.32 | bonez39 | tarzeau, I believe I have lpr installed...but it seems like cups is used to print from some applications |
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| 19:08.48 | bonez39 | Gathond, hmmm thanks for the suggestions..... |
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| 19:08.56 | Gathond | bonez39: cupsys-bsd contains a /usr/bin/lpr command for compatability, so any package also providing that command, like the original lpd system would conflict with it, hence installing this (or a dependency of it) will probably mean cupsys-bsd gets removed |
| 19:09.06 | hyksos | is in gdb a way to set a scalar in an array like numRead[2] = 1 ? |
| 19:09.12 | tarzeau | bonez39: cupsys-bsd provides its own lpr |
| 19:09.26 | tarzeau | bonez39: either you use lprng, lpr or cupsys-bsd |
| 19:09.28 | bonez39 | ok...that makes sense |
| 19:09.28 | hyksos | it returns: cannot subscript something of type `int' |
| 19:09.35 | tarzeau | bonez39: we've switched to cupsys-bsd from lprng now |
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| 19:09.44 | bonez39 | tarzeau, so you are saying, you get one...or the other..but not both, or not all three |
| 19:09.58 | Gathond | bonez39: yes |
| 19:10.05 | tarzeau | bonez39: exactly |
| 19:10.07 | Gathond | bonez39: one printing system, select one |
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| 19:10.42 | tarzeau | bonez39: cups is really nice with Browsing On and /etc/printcap... |
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| 19:10.47 | bonez39 | Gathond, I know I used some lpadmin commands to setup networked printing.... |
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| 19:10.56 | Anthro | bonez39: I recommend cupsys and cupsys-bsd |
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| 19:11.06 | bonez39 | I guess if I have it remove cupsys-bsd the lpadmin stuff will remain intact... |
| 19:11.22 | bonez39 | Anthro, what advantage do you find with cups over lprng? |
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| 19:11.38 | colmd | lo |
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| 19:11.55 | Anthro | bonez39: Ease of configuration, particularly the automatic network printing. |
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| 19:12.22 | colmd | i set up the xfree86 server with PS/2 mouse and ImPS2 mouse, but my mouse doesn't work |
| 19:12.27 | tarzeau | bonez39: if you got lprng and printcap over nis, checkpc (from daily cron) will flood you with mails |
| 19:12.30 | bonez39 | Anthro, ok, in that case, I need to NOT have aptitude remove cupsys-bsd, but the other..how do I tell which I am using? |
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| 19:12.52 | jetscreamer | psaux |
| 19:12.55 | Xik0 | i compile 2.6.13 kernel for my debian, now i want to install nvidia drivers but i need kernel-headers right? where i can find kernel-headers for 2.6.13? |
| 19:13.13 | colmd | yep, i said the server to use /dev/psaux |
| 19:13.14 | jetscreamer | Xik0: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` works |
| 19:13.15 | tarzeau | Xik0: build them |
| 19:13.20 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 19:13.24 | tarzeau | Xik0: i hope you used make-kpkg to build your kernel? |
| 19:13.25 | jetscreamer | you compiled |
| 19:13.37 | Xik0 | tarzeau, yes |
| 19:13.39 | greycat | Xik0: you add "kernel_headers" after "kernel_image" on your make-kpkg line. |
| 19:13.40 | chealer | Xik0: right |
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| 19:13.44 | jetscreamer | Xik0: the source will work, it finds it automagically |
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| 19:13.55 | jetscreamer | you only need the headers if you don't have the full source |
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| 19:14.32 | jetscreamer | Xik0: next time, do make-kpkg targets and you will see what greycat said, and others |
| 19:14.39 | colmd | so what else could i do? the x log says it doesn't find any device on /dev/input/mouse |
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| 19:14.50 | jetscreamer | colmd: didn't you say it was usb? |
| 19:14.52 | Xik0 | oh ok, thanks |
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| 19:15.06 | ma3x | how do I install to specified dir? make install DEST=~/dir? |
| 19:15.14 | colmd | no, it's not usb |
| 19:15.33 | ma3x | usb? |
| 19:15.34 | jetscreamer | colmd: if not, mousedev has had a tendency not to load (2.6 kernel) also psmouse but not so much |
| 19:15.36 | ma3x | what you talking about? |
| 19:15.38 | ma3x | ah oaky |
| 19:15.46 | jetscreamer | colmd: try modprobe mousedev |
| 19:16.03 | jetscreamer | if this a 2.6 kernel |
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| 19:16.17 | colmd | yes it is, i've done it |
| 19:16.27 | jetscreamer | try psmouse also |
| 19:16.28 | tarzeau | ma3x: depends on the makefile ... some support DEST, some don't. if you got configure you use --prefix=~/usr or so |
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| 19:16.43 | Anthro | bonez39: aptitude install cupsys cupsys-bsd |
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| 19:16.53 | Anthro | bonez39: this will get rid of any other printing system. |
| 19:16.58 | colmd | i've done it |
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| 19:17.05 | Zargonog | can someone help me install debian on my sun machine? |
| 19:17.22 | jetscreamer | ok so did you get any success messages, colmd ? |
| 19:17.23 | Zargonog | when i try to boot to the cd it says "cant read disk label. cant open disk label package. cant open boot device" |
| 19:17.27 | tarzeau | Zargonog: sure |
| 19:17.38 | tarzeau | Zargonog: can you network boot? sarge or woody cd? |
| 19:17.46 | jetscreamer | or just give it a shot... /etc/init.d/?dm restart |
| 19:17.55 | jetscreamer | should/might work |
| 19:18.15 | Zargonog | i dont know i just downloaded the whole cd set for sparc cpus |
| 19:18.22 | Zargonog | does the 1st cd in that set not boot? |
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| 19:18.45 | tarzeau | Zargonog: it should. sarge? what sparc exactly? |
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| 19:19.00 | colmd | jetscreamer: when i typed the command in the console it said nothing, but in dmesg i found 3 lines |
| 19:19.07 | colmd | can i paste them here? |
| 19:19.08 | Zargonog | i have a sunblade 100 workstation with an ultrasparc ii-e |
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| 19:19.17 | jetscreamer | colmd: no the bot will kick |
| 19:19.27 | jetscreamer | !tell colmd -about paste |
| 19:19.28 | tarzeau | Zargonog: ide or scsi devices? |
| 19:19.34 | Zargonog | ide |
| 19:20.05 | jetscreamer | colmd: usually when it doesn't say anything, it's already loaded |
| 19:20.12 | colmd | join #flood |
| 19:20.19 | tarzeau | Zargonog: probe-ide finds the devices in the obp? |
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| 19:20.36 | Zargonog | yes it finds my hard drive and cdrom |
| 19:20.36 | tarzeau | Zargonog: www.linuks.mine.nu/helpers/tftpboot/ |
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| 19:20.37 | colmd | yes but it said something new in dmesg |
| 19:20.39 | tarzeau | Zargonog: and then boot cdrom don't work? |
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| 19:20.47 | jetscreamer | colmd: check /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 19:20.58 | jetscreamer | ok so was it a good thing? |
| 19:21.01 | Zargonog | what cdimage should i try to boot to? |
| 19:21.06 | colmd | yes |
| 19:21.07 | laurens_ | Is 512 |
| 19:21.07 | laurens_ | j |
| 19:21.11 | laurens_ | MB usually enough |
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| 19:21.17 | laurens_ | for a server running mail |
| 19:21.18 | jetscreamer | colmd: did you try to start x again? |
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| 19:21.22 | laurens_ | (on /var/log) |
| 19:21.24 | tarzeau | Zargonog: potato has worked for me. not sure if your sunblade 100 needs something sepcial, try #sparc |
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| 19:21.29 | laurens_ | wait let me rephrase that |
| 19:21.31 | colmd | no |
| 19:21.33 | greycat | laurens_: yes. |
| 19:21.38 | jetscreamer | can't hurt to try |
| 19:21.39 | laurens_ | my brain is going 4x as fast as my fingers are. |
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| 19:21.56 | laurens_ | greycat: 512MB is enough for /var/log on a server running mail and web? |
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| 19:22.02 | laurens_ | yay :-) |
| 19:22.02 | Zargonog | where can i get potato? |
| 19:22.08 | greycat | if you were to go back in time to a year when there was no spam, 5 MB would be enough RAM for a mail server. |
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| 19:22.19 | jetscreamer | archives.debian.org or something, i forget exactly |
| 19:22.22 | jetscreamer | !potato |
| 19:22.22 | laurens_ | greycat: /var/log |
| 19:22.23 | dpkg | methinks potato is Debian 2.2, released August 14th, 2000, and is no longer supported. Ask me about "potato->woody" for upgrade information. something that grows underground |
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| 19:22.29 | greycat | 512 MB is just wasted unless your spam checker needs that much |
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| 19:22.35 | laurens_ | not ram |
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| 19:22.46 | laurens_ | I have 1GB RAM in that box :P |
| 19:22.48 | greycat | laurens_: oh. well, then, it depends on how many weeks of logs you want to keep, and how many messages per day, etc. |
| 19:22.51 | SimonRaven | my /var/log is 512 |
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| 19:23.03 | greycat | laurens_: *hate* |
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| 19:23.13 | greycat | my mail server's DISK is less than 2 GB. |
| 19:23.16 | nvz | I dont think have 1GB of ram in all 5 of my boxes combined |
| 19:23.18 | jdrake | after doing an upgrade from stable to testing I have somethings like zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.2.2-4) but 1:1.2.2-4.sarge.2 is to be installed appearing. Is there a nice way of getting this quickly resolved? |
| 19:23.23 | laurens_ | greycat: I'd like my partition table "balanced" if you understand what I mean |
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| 19:23.35 | cadu | jdrake: already tried apt-get -f install ? |
| 19:23.37 | laurens_ | greycat: if i'm to be using raid 1 arrays for mail etc |
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| 19:23.47 | greycat | laurens_: you're asking "how many ferraris should I buy with my weekly allowance? should I get some rolls royces too?" |
| 19:23.48 | laurens_ | greycat: I'd like them to start at the same sector and stuff |
| 19:23.48 | colmd | now it works, great, thank you jetscreamer |
| 19:23.50 | laurens_ | dont know why |
| 19:23.50 | jetscreamer | jdrake: use dselect, seriously |
| 19:23.54 | SimonRaven | laurens_: there's ~50 partitions on this box... pita but needed since the 3 drivs are 9 GB each |
| 19:24.00 | laurens_ | greycat: allowance? salary! |
| 19:24.01 | SimonRaven | drives* |
| 19:24.01 | jdrake | no, but I am not sure how forcing the install will fix those others that are selected |
| 19:24.07 | jetscreamer | colmd: you'll need to add those module names to /etc/modules |
| 19:24.11 | cadu | SimonRaven: 50 partitions? wtf! |
| 19:24.15 | jetscreamer | so they get loaded on boot |
| 19:24.23 | javi | how do you upgrade your sid without upgrade your kde ? |
| 19:24.23 | laurens_ | cadu: ah yes, the wonderful excess of scsi |
| 19:24.25 | nvz | actually I know I dont I have 848MB Ram in all together |
| 19:24.26 | cadu | jdrake: apt-get -f install is to FIX :) |
| 19:24.33 | laurens_ | greycat: they're not fancy scsi drives... just 250gb sata |
| 19:24.37 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 19:24.37 | dpkg | fix-unmet is probably run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked) |
| 19:24.40 | jetscreamer | better |
| 19:24.41 | laurens_ | im too poor for u320 |
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| 19:24.43 | cadu | jdrake: it does some checks on your installation system and tries to fix some unhandled deps and things |
| 19:24.43 | javi | do you know any tip about aptitude to do it ? |
| 19:24.48 | cadu | jdrake: -f isn't force |
| 19:24.52 | SimonRaven | cadu: yeh, some aren't used though, taken up by what's called driver paritions (apple partitioning scheme) |
| 19:24.56 | laurens_ | its fix |
| 19:24.58 | laurens_ | :-) |
| 19:24.59 | cadu | jdrake: try it "apt-get -f install" as root. |
| 19:24.59 | jdrake | sorry, my apologies |
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| 19:25.08 | colmd | psmouse and mousedev |
| 19:25.10 | colmd | ok |
| 19:25.13 | jetscreamer | yes |
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| 19:25.17 | cadu | jdrake: no need to apologize, just pay us a beer. |
| 19:25.17 | nvz | SimonRaven: sounds stupid. they should use LVM or something |
| 19:25.17 | jdrake | it does not fix it |
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| 19:25.25 | ma3x | what means "session 'shell' exited with status 1" ? |
| 19:25.27 | colmd | thank you |
| 19:25.37 | cadu | ouch |
| 19:25.44 | SimonRaven | nvz: it came even before lvm was ever conceived ... |
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| 19:25.45 | cadu | SimonRaven: oh ..... ppc. |
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| 19:25.53 | jetscreamer | jdrake: i mentioned the best method for fixing dependency problems. ppl hate the ui... the internals are superior. |
| 19:25.54 | SimonRaven | yeh mac ppc |
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| 19:26.02 | cadu | SimonRaven: i had a bunch of those 'driver' partitions on my old powermac 8500 |
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| 19:26.22 | laurens_ | Is reiserfs 3.6 a good idea for a production server? |
| 19:26.23 | ma3x | anyone knows this? |
| 19:26.24 | SimonRaven | cadu: yeh |
| 19:26.27 | jetscreamer | NO\ |
| 19:26.28 | laurens_ | Or should I use ext3 instead |
| 19:26.33 | jetscreamer | !reiser |
| 19:26.33 | dpkg | i heard reiser is filed in my brain under "reiserfs". http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/2001week19/0069.html |
| 19:26.39 | jetscreamer | !reiserfs |
| 19:26.39 | dpkg | hmm... reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
| 19:26.41 | ma3x | when i press ctrl+d to logout from Konsole, I get "session 'shell' exited with status 1" |
| 19:26.42 | jdrake | jetscreamer, i am attempting to use it now |
| 19:26.55 | laurens_ | oh, ok :-) |
| 19:27.10 | laurens_ | btw doesn't jfs have appaling performance in linux for some reason nobody understands |
| 19:27.11 | jetscreamer | jdrake: don't select anything, or change the sources... just go to option 2 and then just hit enter a lot |
| 19:27.17 | laurens_ | way worse than on aix anyway |
| 19:27.19 | SimonRaven | laurens_: no. not if you value your data |
| 19:27.22 | tarzeau | ma3x: i wouldn't use Konsole |
| 19:27.24 | cadu | ma3x: check if you have something on bash.logout |
| 19:27.32 | ma3x | tarzeau, what would you use? |
| 19:27.35 | jetscreamer | i tried jfs... it was ok but i wound up not prefering it |
| 19:27.35 | SimonRaven | laurens_: no, jfs works fine |
| 19:27.38 | laurens_ | !xfs |
| 19:27.38 | dpkg | i heard xfs is the filesystem developed by SGI for high-performance journalling and large disk support. see http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ or http://www.lwfug.org/debian/ for xfs deb tools and deb kernels, or far better and more mature than reiserfs, but not as mature (in linux) as ext3. check out http://people.debian.org/~blade/XFS-Install/ if you want to install woody with XFS support, or more ISOs are at ... |
| 19:27.39 | cadu | ma3x: xterm will do. |
| 19:27.39 | jetscreamer | i forget why |
| 19:27.43 | laurens_ | I know xfs! |
| 19:27.45 | tarzeau | ma3x: i use Terminal and xterm and aterm |
| 19:27.48 | laurens_ | I have a challenge DM here |
| 19:27.51 | ma3x | cadu, I dont have bash.logout |
| 19:27.52 | jetscreamer | reiser and xfs you should have a ups |
| 19:27.52 | laurens_ | it's old and noisy |
| 19:27.55 | laurens_ | but real cuddly too |
| 19:27.57 | tarzeau | ma3x: have you seen this? bugs.debian.org/konsole |
| 19:28.02 | cadu | tarzeau: Terminal? |
| 19:28.05 | cadu | (gnome?) |
| 19:28.06 | tarzeau | ambroseL: i've had a user where konsole would crash after some time |
| 19:28.07 | SimonRaven | i prefer xfs or ext3 though. jfs certainly has its uses however. you'll see it more often on big iron type boxen though |
| 19:28.16 | tarzeau | cadu: no way i'd use ANY gnome software |
| 19:28.22 | tarzeau | cadu: of course it's GNUstep |
| 19:28.24 | jetscreamer | gedit is cool |
| 19:28.26 | cadu | tarzeau: Terminal? |
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| 19:28.31 | cadu | tarzeau: are you on (mac os) X ? |
| 19:28.33 | cadu | :-) |
| 19:28.34 | tarzeau | cadu: yes Terminal.app, apt-get install terminal |
| 19:28.36 | jetscreamer | and gnome-terminal |
| 19:28.40 | tarzeau | cadu: no i'm on debian |
| 19:28.43 | cadu | tarzeau: window maker thing :) |
| 19:28.44 | ambroseL | hi ... |
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| 19:28.55 | cadu | !windowmaker |
| 19:28.56 | dpkg | [windowmaker] the BRAZILIAN window manager, flexible and highly configurable. Developed by Alfredo K. Kojima <kojima@conectiva.com.br>. |
| 19:28.56 | tarzeau | cadu: but yes you get the same keyboard shortcuts, command-n new terminal window |
| 19:29.02 | tarzeau | cadu: of course, it's not windowmaker stuff |
| 19:29.18 | jdrake | jetscreamer, it didn't fix anything |
| 19:29.24 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 19:29.35 | jetscreamer | well then it's a package problem |
| 19:29.51 | jetscreamer | which package again? |
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| 19:30.01 | LSorensen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.10 | LSorensen | oops |
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| 19:30.15 | ma3x | i dont understand this, Whenever I buy this tissues from a store, they are full of dust. |
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| 19:30.25 | ma3x | non/debian related, but was just wondering, thinking... why |
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| 19:30.29 | cadu | ma3x: you should buy the new ones. |
| 19:30.31 | SimonRaven | so don't buy tissues. |
| 19:30.31 | jdrake | http://paste.divinecode.org/pastes/91b9b43a7.txt |
| 19:30.31 | LSorensen | ma3x: low quality cheap tissues |
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| 19:30.34 | cadu | ma3x: used ones are crap. |
| 19:30.36 | cadu | lol |
| 19:30.43 | SimonRaven | ugh TMI TMI! |
| 19:30.44 | yac | where can be Debian menu file found ? |
| 19:30.46 | ma3x | cadu, brand new, and they are full of dust |
| 19:30.52 | ma3x | I can't understand |
| 19:30.58 | SimonRaven | @tmi |
| 19:30.59 | ravenbird | tmi is probably too much information |
| 19:30.59 | cadu | ma3x: nah, they must be refactored used tissues. |
| 19:31.05 | cadu | @iirc |
| 19:31.06 | ma3x | you just open it, clean your nose and all the dust goes into your eyes |
| 19:31.07 | ravenbird | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 19:31.11 | ma3x | gotta close the eyes |
| 19:31.12 | tarzeau | yac: sid or before? |
| 19:31.19 | tarzeau | yac: /usr/lib/menu and now /usr/share/menu |
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| 19:31.27 | Zargonog | tarzeau: would it matter that i have openboot 4.0? |
| 19:31.28 | tarzeau | yac: or dpkg -L package |grep menu |
| 19:31.28 | yac | tarzeau: thanks |
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| 19:31.29 | LSorensen | ma3x: I have found the cheap brands are low quality and the paper isn't that solid and full of paper dust, while the expensive brands seem much more solid and aren't loosing paper dust all over. |
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| 19:31.35 | tarzeau | Zargonog: no (no idea) |
| 19:31.41 | jetscreamer | jdrake: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323685 |
| 19:31.41 | harleyg | hello satan, did ya miss me buttercoup? |
| 19:31.43 | Zargonog | k |
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| 19:32.01 | ma3x | LSorensen, how can you recognize which ones are the good ones? Price? |
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| 19:34.14 | jdrake | that seems to have fixed it |
| 19:34.14 | jdrake | thank you |
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| 19:34.44 | jdrake | Is there any authoritative document on building a custom kernel package for debian? I can find a few but they are either old or inconsistant with each other |
| 19:35.00 | vinson | anyone else having issues with the deb for firefox not downloading files? |
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| 19:35.37 | thingfish | vinson: bugs.debian.org/mozilla-firefox |
| 19:35.40 | yac | tarzeau: sorry, I accidentalz closed xchat... can zou write the menu location and that command again please ? |
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| 19:35.55 | cadu | can i backport firefox 1.0.6 from sid to testing ? |
| 19:35.58 | vinson | thingfish:thanks |
| 19:35.59 | tarzeau | 21:31 < tarzeau> yac: /usr/lib/menu and now /usr/share/menu |
| 19:36.00 | tarzeau | 21:31 < tarzeau> yac: or dpkg -L package |grep menu |
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| 19:36.12 | thingfish | you're welcome, vinson. |
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| 19:36.15 | yac | tarzeau: thanks again |
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| 19:37.07 | atom-z | i want to force a package install, but do not want dpkg to overwrite files, how can I make sure it doesnt over-write? |
| 19:37.37 | tarzeau | atom-z: which files? config files? which package? |
| 19:37.43 | atom-z | cedega |
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| 19:37.51 | atom-z | on amd64 |
| 19:37.55 | Lee__ | that's not in Debian |
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| 19:38.13 | atom-z | (cedega is built for i386, but i have ia32-libs installed, so it *should* run) |
| 19:38.23 | greycat | ask #cedega |
| 19:38.26 | tarzeau | atom-z: since it's not in Debian, nobody cares |
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| 19:38.32 | thingfish | "should" is my least favorite word. |
| 19:39.17 | LSorensen | ma3x: price to some extent, experience. if you find a brand is crap, don't buy it again. I have found the drug store's own brands tend to be crap, well kleenex tends to be much better quality (and 2 or 3 times the price too). |
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| 19:39.30 | atom-z | greycat, thanks |
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| 19:42.40 | ma3x | LSorensen, I dont remember exactly about kleenex, but I'm gonna try it tomorrow and let you know |
| 19:43.17 | ma3x | LSorensen, but the same happened to you, when you blow, dust gets in your eyes |
| 19:43.20 | ma3x | ? |
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| 19:43.39 | tzafrir_laptop | an lvm(1.0) Q: my old server stored data in a 80GB disc with an LVM. The server died. Now I want to make the files of the disk availble for a certain windows user. How do I reduce the size of the LVM phisical partition itself to make room for a small , bootable partition? |
| 19:43.45 | rudenstam | I was here yesterday and asked about "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out" I havn't had the oppertunity to change cable.. but I noticed some other odd behavior.. it only dies on fast incoming, not fast outgoing.. any tips ? |
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| 19:44.51 | yac | how can be "system tray"(that where gaim etc "remains") without applets ? (in window maker to be exact) |
| 19:45.45 | tzafrir_laptop | OrAlternatively, can you recommend a rescue CD that supports lvm10? |
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| 19:47.41 | thingfish | aack $99 for the Debian logo font. |
| 19:48.17 | thingfish | I guess I'll just have to get creative with gimp. |
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| 19:48.39 | hippie | sounds hot. |
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| 19:50.10 | LSorensen | ma3x: well certainly they can be quite dusty (at least those 3 boxes for $1 from the local drug store). :) |
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| 19:51.48 | cadu | thingfish: or Inkscape. :) |
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| 19:52.57 | tzafrir_laptop | rudenstam, well, it's your network interface failing to send packets. Usually a problem with the connection or something |
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| 19:53.04 | matthew_w | Hey there - when I try to run GDMsetup I get GTK Warning: Cannot open display: |
| 19:53.07 | matthew_w | What does this mean....? |
| 19:53.18 | greycat | it means you're not running it inside X as the user who started X. |
| 19:53.32 | matthew_w | That's an interesting conundrum |
| 19:53.48 | cadu | !tell matthew_w about mit-magic-cookie |
| 19:53.51 | matthew_w | Because you need to be Suser to open it, yet there's no way to be superuser without logging out etc... |
| 19:53.54 | tzafrir_laptop | mathieu, do you run it as root after running su? apt-get install sux and use sux instead? |
| 19:53.54 | greycat | why would gdm require a special setup program instead of just editing the config files? |
| 19:54.13 | greycat | matthew_w: see also "/msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 19:54.23 | matthew_w | cadu; that uh... doesn't really make sense :( sorry. |
| 19:54.39 | rudenstam | tzafrir_laptop: to sned ? not recive ? |
| 19:54.47 | matthew_w | I know how to run as root, but... again it gave me that errror. |
| 19:54.50 | matthew_w | error* |
| 19:54.53 | greycat | then you don't know how. |
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| 19:55.01 | greycat | matthew_w: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
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| 19:55.07 | rudenstam | tzafrir_laptop: you mean that it can't send the return packets for recived packet ? |
| 19:55.10 | tzafrir_laptop | rudenstam, if you have a network problem, you won't recieve any packets. But you'll get an error sending ones |
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| 19:55.41 | matthew_w | Well, Dpkg gave me the info but... |
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| 19:55.46 | matthew_w | I can't really make sense of it... :S |
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| 19:56.07 | tzafrir_laptop | matthew_w, echo $DISPLAY |
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| 19:56.24 | tzafrir_laptop | matthew_w, (in the root shell) |
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| 19:56.48 | matthew_w | tzafrir_laptop; that returned nothing |
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| 19:57.31 | tzafrir_laptop | matthew_w, so you don't even have a display set. X needs to know where to send output to |
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| 19:58.00 | rudenstam | tzafrir_laptop: true true.. but I only get this problem when I recive very fast.. |
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| 19:58.18 | greycat | matthew_w: 1) login as you. 2) startx. 3) open an xterm. 4) export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority 5) su |
| 19:58.32 | greycat | c'mon, this isn't hard |
| 19:58.53 | cadu | sure isn't. |
| 19:58.55 | matthew_w | Technically SU doesn't work on ubuntu |
| 19:59.00 | cadu | ehehhee |
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| 19:59.02 | matthew_w | so I'd have to do sudo -i |
| 19:59.02 | cadu | !ubuntu |
| 19:59.02 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian> |
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| 19:59.28 | xhypno | I am currently building a debian focused laptop install and help site. If you have installed Debian on a laptop with problems and found soultions, please send me a tarball containing your main configs (modules hotplug/blacklist, X11/XF86config-4, modprobe.d/aliases, etc) and your laptops make and specs (including model number), when I recieve this I will begin to build the database of working system configs and walkthroughs for debian on laptops |
| 19:59.28 | xhypno | . THIS SITE WILL BE DEBIAN ONLY! (I think it is about time someone made a dedicated Debian laptop site). philip@progmad.com |
| 19:59.29 | tzafrir_laptop | matthew_w, or even simpler: apt-get install sux . and use 'sux -' instead of 'su -' . We all know that running X as root sux. |
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| 20:00.39 | tzafrir_laptop | xhypno, what about linux-lapops.org? |
| 20:00.43 | greycat | xhypno: I've done about 15 or 20 debian laptop installs now, but I don't *have* any of them... |
| 20:00.52 | orchid | xhypno: send a mail to debian-laptop also, maybe debian-user, good idae btw |
| 20:01.12 | xhypno | orchid, already did about 5 min agou. |
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| 20:01.22 | greycat | xhypno: suggestion: get the domain name and a basic page set up first, with contact info on it. |
| 20:01.23 | syntaxx | whats a good mail/imap for apache+squirrelmail+php |
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| 20:01.34 | xhypno | tzafrir_laptop: linux-laptops.org is not dedicated to debian |
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| 20:01.46 | greycat | syntaxx: courier-imap plus whatever MTA you like as long as it can deliver to Maildirs |
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| 20:02.01 | greycat | /var/mail is shit. |
| 20:02.04 | balony_ | dpkg -l shows me package names, but not complete names. How can I get complete names on that list? |
| 20:02.05 | dpkg | No packages found matching shows me package names, but not complete names. How can I get complete names on that list |
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| 20:02.11 | greycat | !faq balony_ |
| 20:02.12 | dpkg | balony_: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 20:02.13 | xhypno | greycat: I am buying the domain now, but the site is already built on a hacked apart version of mambo |
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| 20:02.31 | tzafrir_laptop | I like dovecot . Rather nice for moving from mboxes to maildirs |
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| 20:02.43 | xhypno | greycat: If you have the models of the laptops and configs, I will be happy to include them. |
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| 20:03.14 | syntaxx | greycat: what would u prefer for MTA easy to maintain and not so complicated? |
| 20:03.18 | greycat | xhypno: I don't unfortunately... too bad you didn't start that site a year ago |
| 20:03.45 | tzafrir_laptop | balony_, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 20:03.51 | xhypno | greycat: yeah, I should have. But hey I am sure I will make up for it. |
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| 20:04.17 | tzafrir_laptop | isn't there a switch yet for dpkg for not cutting the text in columns? |
| 20:04.26 | greycat | tzafrir_laptop: dpkg 1.13 in sid. |
| 20:04.48 | greycat | I think.. |
| 20:04.49 | Feyr-Wrk | there's always --get-selections if you just need the list |
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| 20:05.09 | tzafrir_laptop | balony_, also IIRC you can specify the format with dpkg-query. But read its man page. and re-read it |
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| 20:06.33 | Bob332 | anyone ever see this problem where you nmap a machine and you see a port 21 open, but in reality the machine isnt open on port 21? |
| 20:06.46 | greycat | ah... dpkg -l in sid STILL truncates if stdout is a terminal, but if you pipe it, then it does not truncate. |
| 20:06.59 | greycat | Bob332: no. |
| 20:07.13 | greycat | because i'd not be stupid enough to use nmap ;-)( |
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| 20:07.30 | balony_ | tzafrir_laptop: thanks |
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| 20:08.24 | xhypno | Bob332, the router is probally open on 21 for traffic and the machine is nat'ed behind it with the port closed |
| 20:08.49 | greycat | or you could "telnet blah 21" and see what happens. |
| 20:08.57 | xhypno | true |
| 20:09.00 | greycat | (ooh, I know, that's *so* advanced..) |
| 20:09.08 | xhypno | lol |
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| 20:09.47 | mindamp | i don't know if this is a debian question or ubuntu questions so im asking it in both channels |
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| 20:10.00 | mindamp | im trying to get cups-pdf working... however the cups web interface has been locked |
| 20:10.06 | mindamp | and i don't have a gui installed... |
| 20:10.13 | mindamp | how do i unlock the 631 interface? |
| 20:10.16 | bucky | mindamp, if you're running ubuntu then it's a ubuntu question |
| 20:10.26 | sgeigerbot | mindamp: 631 interface? or port? |
| 20:10.42 | greycat | why would he need a GUI to use a web interface? |
| 20:10.48 | sgeigerbot | mindamp: cups setup is "apt-get install cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsomatic-ppd foomatic-db" Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy! |
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| 20:11.57 | mindamp | that bot is retarded |
| 20:12.06 | mindamp | the damn package locks the frontend |
| 20:12.26 | sgeigerbot | mindamp: what do you mean by "lock"? |
| 20:12.42 | bucky | i should install ubuntu and talk a bunch of shit about debian.. that's what i should do |
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| 20:12.55 | sgeigerbot | !+die bucky |
| 20:13.08 | sgeigerbot | !+kill buck |
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| 20:14.03 | bucky | ubuntu users are a bunch of babies... they use ubuntu because they have to do a net install over a proprietary wireless card and other stupid things like that |
| 20:14.05 | mindamp | shut up bot |
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| 20:14.20 | dumezil | is it possible to remove a package that other packages depend on without removing those other packages? case in point im trying to install the qmail-src debian package, but im giving up and going back to my previous installation i did manually, so there will be no lost functionality |
| 20:14.54 | antgel | dumezil: eh? |
| 20:15.27 | antgel | dumezil: you mean you have things installed that depend on qmail-src? |
| 20:16.11 | antgel | !echo |
| 20:16.11 | dpkg | ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo...cho...ho...o....... |
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| 20:16.25 | dumezil | i installed qmail-src package, built the qmail package and installed it. but i can't get it to work. i want to uninstall it and go back to my manual (ie not a package) installation of qmail. however at, courier-imap, mysql-server et al depend on this new qmail package that i want to take out. |
| 20:16.26 | xhypno | no echo |
| 20:16.43 | antgel | !tell dumezil about equivs |
| 20:17.24 | greycat | dumezil: use equivs |
| 20:17.30 | greycat | !wikifaq dumezil MailQuestions |
| 20:17.31 | dpkg | dumezil: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/MailQuestions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 20:18.00 | antgel | dumezil: surely it's better to try again with the .deb. it's a mail server, not rocket science |
| 20:18.37 | cadu | !exim |
| 20:18.38 | dpkg | exim is a message transfer agent developed at University of Cambridge for use on Unix systems connected to the internet. Freely available under the GPL. It is similar to Smail 3. http://www.exim.org, very much like sendmail, including security holes all over the place, consider switching to exim4 for security and speed improvements, or to clean the mail queue and delete pending e-mail, use "mailq | awk '{print $3}' | xargs exim -Mrm" |
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| 20:19.00 | streuner | hm |
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| 20:19.25 | dumezil | antgel: too bad i can't get the package to work and no one in #qmail can figure it out either |
| 20:19.29 | greycat | antgel: wanna see his strace log? it fails on a chdir("queue") from /var/qmail. where queue is a symlink to /var/spool/qmail and we checked the permissions on EVERY single directory up to and including /var/spool/qmail |
| 20:19.30 | peterS | I am not abrotman either |
| 20:19.39 | abrotman | who is? |
| 20:19.49 | peterS | you told streuner you weren't me |
| 20:19.50 | peterS | a couple hours ago |
| 20:19.52 | abrotman | oh |
| 20:19.54 | abrotman | yes .. |
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| 20:20.03 | greycat | antgel: I've never seen anything like it. And I run *upstream* qmail on Debian all the time. |
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| 20:20.09 | streuner | peterS: heh? |
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| 20:20.21 | greycat | I don't touch the Debianized qmail packages. *shudder* |
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| 20:20.39 | abrotman | s/Debianized// |
| 20:20.52 | streuner | peterS: hm, does your script bans IP's as well or only the nicks? |
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| 20:20.56 | abrotman | streuner: you were looking for peterS to fix the nospambot.pl hours ago |
| 20:21.04 | streuner | of course |
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| 20:21.06 | peterS | ahh. only nicks |
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| 20:21.20 | peterS | if you join and then part less than 2 seconds later, or whatever, it doesn't show the join + part |
| 20:21.25 | streuner | i searched for peterS, but he wasn't online |
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| 20:21.32 | dumezil | www.charliechrisman.com/logfile in case you do want to see it |
| 20:21.32 | greycat | antgel: it'll only destroy *some* of your brain! |
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| 20:21.47 | greycat | antgel: but if you don't have the qmail source sitting in front of you, it's not as useful. |
| 20:21.48 | streuner | peterS: actually its set to 10.5 seconds and working fine |
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| 20:22.24 | peterS | streuner: cool, but you want it to track nick changes and suppress those too, if the user joins and parts within 10 seconds? |
| 20:22.27 | syntaxx | when using apt-get do i need to install to the suggested package? |
| 20:22.32 | streuner | peterS: but those bots changed their nicks... |
| 20:22.34 | greycat | syntaxx: no |
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| 20:22.52 | greycat | if you *needed* to install it, it would be Depends: not Suggests: |
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| 20:23.07 | streuner | peterS: bad luck |
| 20:23.09 | cadu | everytime you ask a stupid question, god kills a sysadmin. |
| 20:23.13 | cadu | so please think of the sysadmins. |
| 20:23.38 | cadu | Domo-kun'ish thing :) |
| 20:23.45 | streuner | peterS: yes, that would be great |
| 20:23.47 | skate | cadu: There is no God. |
| 20:23.55 | antgel | !god |
| 20:23.56 | dpkg | it has been said that god is The omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent Supreme Entity of the Universe. |
| 20:23.57 | cadu | skate: oh my _god_ (lol) you're an atheist! |
| 20:24.03 | abrotman | skate: god != God |
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| 20:24.08 | peterS | streuner: I'll think about it. I'm not sure off the top of my head how to do it, but it should not be all that hard |
| 20:24.12 | greycat | dpkg, god is also dead. |
| 20:24.12 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
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| 20:24.20 | abrotman | !good |
| 20:24.21 | cadu | greycat: lol. true. |
| 20:24.25 | cadu | !good god :) |
| 20:24.27 | cadu | abrotman: ^^ |
| 20:24.31 | greycat | dpkg, god =~ s/dead/Or dead/ |
| 20:24.31 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
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| 20:24.40 | abrotman | !god |
| 20:24.40 | dpkg | i heard god is The omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent Supreme Entity of the Universe. Or dead. |
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| 20:25.06 | abrotman | hrm ... !god is also the bastard that god GWB "elected" |
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| 20:25.12 | abrotman | err got GWB |
| 20:25.19 | streuner | peterS: I've almost nothing more in irssi... |
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| 20:25.22 | greycat | God is Diebold? |
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| 20:25.34 | tarzeau | can you guys stop being #religious please |
| 20:25.39 | streuner | peterS: i.e. BASKICI_AIST is now known as gonca |
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| 20:25.40 | peterS | God is approximately half of America? |
| 20:25.45 | eguzkia | hi |
| 20:25.45 | abrotman | tarzeau: just because the swiss are neutral on everything :) |
| 20:25.47 | cadu | skate's fault. |
| 20:25.53 | greycat | !blame cadu |
| 20:25.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm not swiss |
| 20:25.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: you live there! |
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| 20:26.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: if the turks got in a war .. could you be drafted and called home ? |
| 20:26.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah. hanging around with lesbians, doesn't make me a woman either |
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| 20:26.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: don't you wish it did? :) |
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| 20:26.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: i have no idea, i've never lived in turkey |
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| 20:26.30 | antgel | tarzeau: you hang around with lesbians? :O |
| 20:26.38 | tzafrir_laptop | eguzkia, no time for your Qs now. We're busy |
| 20:26.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'd not give away my penis for nuthin' |
| 20:26.41 | peterS | antgel: he created a whole linux distribution for them |
| 20:26.47 | abrotman | tarzeau: ducttape ... |
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| 20:26.54 | tarzeau | antgel: i said that? |
| 20:26.58 | Quinn_Storm | hey, I've got a quick question. I don't yet know much about doing things with apmd, but I want to set up a laptop I have to do "ifdown wlan0" on ac power loss and "ifup wlan0" on ac power restoration |
| 20:26.59 | tarzeau | abrotman: ... |
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| 20:27.16 | Quinn_Storm | peterS: who did? I should be using that distro ;) |
| 20:27.23 | eguzkia | tzafrir_laptop:Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user mobi. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ? |
| 20:27.24 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: how old is your laptop? |
| 20:27.25 | antgel | peterS: lesbix? |
| 20:27.27 | peterS | Quinn_Storm: www.lesbian.mine.nu |
| 20:27.28 | tzafrir_laptop | Quinn_Storm, does it use apm or acpi? |
| 20:27.33 | greycat | !lesbian |
| 20:27.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lesbian is probably a variation of debian http://www.lesbian.mine.nu, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian/ |
| 20:27.37 | Quinn_Storm | abrotman: old enough to not have a proper acpi implementation |
| 20:27.40 | peterS | antgel: Lesbian GNU/Linux |
| 20:27.41 | abrotman | Quinn_Storm: ewww ... |
| 20:27.42 | ufoalien | öe |
| 20:27.44 | ufoalien | petemc: :) |
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| 20:27.48 | tarzeau | apt forget lesbian |
| 20:27.49 | apt | i forgot lesbian, tarzeau |
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| 20:28.00 | tarzeau | apt lesbian is lesbian is probably a variation of debian http://www.lesbian.mine.nu |
| 20:28.02 | apt | tarzeau: what are you talking about? |
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| 20:28.13 | yac | I set keyb. layout to us with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but there's still old layout in WMs... its annoing, where can be default layout set to us please ? |
| 20:28.18 | colter | logcheck keeps mailing me about a syslog entry which I have told it to ignore in ignore.d.server/bind. I checked the rule with egrep, it works fine there. Any ideas what could be wrong? |
| 20:28.24 | tarzeau | yac: did you restart X? |
| 20:28.29 | tarzeau | yac: or run setxkbmap for now |
| 20:28.35 | tzafrir_laptop | eguzkia, can't you answer that question with a simple grep? |
| 20:28.36 | greycat | tarzeau: too many "is"s |
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| 20:28.48 | tarzeau | apt lesbian is probably a variation of debian http://www.lesbian.mine.nu |
| 20:28.50 | apt | tarzeau: okay |
| 20:28.50 | Quinn_Storm | lofl, they just renamed apt to porn |
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| 20:29.03 | tarzeau | Quinn_Storm: s/they/he/ |
| 20:29.08 | greycat | Quinn_Storm: "they" == tarzeau |
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| 20:29.19 | antgel | the women at the bottom of that site don't look like any lesbians i've ever seen |
| 20:29.27 | Quinn_Storm | as a lesbian I should be offended...but I think its just funny and sad |
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| 20:29.42 | greycat | tarzeau: are there 4 broken images on http://www.lesbian.mine.nu or is it my work proxy? |
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| 20:29.49 | dub | antgel, you obviously dont know the right lesbians |
| 20:29.50 | peterS | Quinn_Storm: I guess tarzeau did his job if you at least thought it was funny |
| 20:29.52 | Quinn_Storm | greycat: looks like its your proxy |
| 20:29.52 | antgel | greycat: you wouldn't want to see them |
| 20:29.56 | greycat | damn. |
| 20:30.04 | antgel | dub: indeed |
| 20:30.12 | Quinn_Storm | peterS: hehe yeah but I'm not one of those crazy feminists who thinks women should be forbidden from doing porn...hell its your body do whatever you want with it |
| 20:30.34 | antgel | !marry Quinn_Storm |
| 20:30.40 | Quinn_Storm | anyhow this is off-topic! now about my laptop :-P |
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| 20:30.48 | tzafrir_laptop | Quinn_Storm, does it use apm or acpi? |
| 20:30.53 | Quinn_Storm | tzafrir_laptop: apm |
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| 20:31.20 | Quinn_Storm | all I want to know is how to use the /etc/apm/foo.d to act on ac power loss & restore |
| 20:31.32 | greycat | so... how come I get the HTML from www.lesbian.mine.nu and the banner on the bottom from retroraunch.com, but not the images from www.lesbian.mine.nu ? |
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| 20:31.54 | yac | tarzeau: yes, I restarted X more than once, but no change... I'll try setxkbmap.... |
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| 20:32.30 | tarzeau | greycat: your proxy is broken? |
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| 20:32.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: just do it? |
| 20:32.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: lesbians? |
| 20:32.51 | Quinn_Storm | maybe its an anti-banner-ad rule in the proxy? |
| 20:32.54 | tarzeau | antgel: what's interesting about popcon these days? |
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| 20:32.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, friends |
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| 20:33.05 | Ungy | porn-get does it actually work |
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| 20:33.07 | greycat | tarzeau: quite likely. I already know they block whole domains. I've never seen a *partial* domain blocking yet, though. |
| 20:33.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: or are you one like www.linuks.mine.nu/friend.jpg ? |
| 20:33.13 | abrotman | tarzeau: i have plenty ... i've been tired .. the weekends are killing me |
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| 20:33.28 | tarzeau | Ungy: yes |
| 20:33.30 | Ale_Ryu | hey hey |
| 20:33.31 | greycat | imadev:~$ echo -e 'HEAD /port-get.jpg HTTP/1.0\nHost: www.lesbian.mine.nu\n' | nc www.lesbian.mine.nu 80 |
| 20:33.34 | greycat | HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found |
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| 20:33.35 | antgel | apparently 7419 people installed sed and util-linux. but only 7416 installed login. odd. |
| 20:33.37 | streuner | abrotman: why? you are already at the top? |
| 20:33.37 | abrotman | tarzeau: not at all .. i don't sleep well/much .. and my weekends are not ... easy going lately |
| 20:33.39 | greycat | crap. typo. |
| 20:33.47 | abrotman | streuner: you mean i need to spend more time here? |
| 20:34.00 | abrotman | ops: Quinn_Storm spam |
| 20:34.01 | abrotman | :) |
| 20:34.11 | streuner | abrotman: that's up to your own... |
| 20:34.30 | EzoNaan | Hello. I am looking for help setting up my Thinkpad r51 wireless connection. I really dont know where to start. I have done a few attempts to get the ipw2100 driver running, but it doesnt seem to work. Does anyone have experience with this? |
| 20:34.38 | abrotman | streuner: the only way i'm spending *more* time is uhm .. i'm not sure i could |
| 20:34.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: problems? |
| 20:34.43 | Quinn_Storm | EzoNaan: have you tried ndiswrapper? |
| 20:34.45 | antgel | why did 3 people decide that they wanted a box with sed and without login. |
| 20:34.46 | abrotman | tarzeau: lesbians? |
| 20:34.57 | antgel | and if a box has sed and not login, does it really have sed? |
| 20:34.59 | tarzeau | antgel: there's alternatives to login |
| 20:35.04 | Ale_Ryu | I need some help configuring tin, do any of you guys use it? |
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| 20:35.08 | tarzeau | antgel: yes, why should it not? |
| 20:35.08 | EzoNaan | Quinn_Storm, No, I haven't. let me google |
| 20:35.09 | abrotman | hehe .. tin |
| 20:35.23 | Ale_Ryu | tin tin tin tin |
| 20:35.30 | Ungy | rin tin tin? |
| 20:35.31 | antgel | !tell Ale_Ryu about ask |
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| 20:35.54 | abrotman | !tin |
| 20:35.54 | dpkg | tin is probably a weird newsreader that is on crack. Available in the Debian standard distribution. |
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| 20:35.59 | Quinn_Storm | lofl |
| 20:36.01 | antgel | tarzeau: lost in translation. if a dog barks and nobody hears it, does it really make a noise? |
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| 20:36.10 | antgel | !tell Ale_Ryu about slrn |
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| 20:36.27 | yac | tarzeau: yes, setxkbmap works, but i want to set default kbmap to us... how can it be done ? |
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| 20:37.04 | tarzeau | yac: in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
| 20:37.13 | Ale_Ryu | I tried using Knode, but I don't get the groups, so I'm trying tin |
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| 20:37.35 | tarzeau | antgel: yes it does, but nobody hears it |
| 20:37.46 | Ale_Ryu | the dogs hears it... |
| 20:38.01 | Ale_Ryu | the dog hears it... |
| 20:38.05 | Ale_Ryu | sorry |
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| 20:39.06 | yac | tarzeau: yes, thats probably it. but i set it with dpkg-reconfigure and it is still old... strange, probably some user error. thanks a lot |
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| 20:39.44 | antgel | !slrn |
| 20:39.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, slrn is the mutts nuts of console newsreaders. Beside the usual features of a newsreader, slrn supports scoring rules to highlight, sort or kill articles based on information from their header. It is highly customizable, allows free key-bindings and can easily be extended using the sophisticated s-lang macro language. http://slrn.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:40.42 | Zargonog | when installing debian, it says the cdrom cannot be mounted...does this mean i have a bad cd image? |
| 20:40.57 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i have some random comments. firstly, you sure you don't want to use acpi? is it old hardware? |
| 20:41.07 | syntaxx | is there a .wmv player? |
| 20:41.12 | cadu | syntaxx: mplayer. |
| 20:41.14 | cadu | !mplayer |
| 20:41.14 | dpkg | well, mplayer is not packaged by debian for licensing issues, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. |
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| 20:41.18 | greycat | with w32codecs |
| 20:41.23 | antgel | syntaxx: do you _ever_ do any research on anything before asking here? |
| 20:41.33 | tarzeau | Zargonog: could also be another problem |
| 20:41.35 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: well maybe I'm doing something dumb, I've tried enabling acpi but it just reports its not present in the kernel |
| 20:41.42 | greycat | antgel: why would he? we're breastfeeding the answer to every question he asks |
| 20:41.44 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: uname -r? |
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| 20:41.56 | Quinn_Storm | 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 20:41.57 | syntaxx | antgel: sorry i already saw pia |
| 20:41.58 | Ale_Ryu | ok, so if no one uses tin or knode, can anyone tell me how to use mutt? |
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| 20:42.03 | Zargonog | well i got it to boot to the cdrom and it loads the install program from the cd but then it cant mount the cdrom |
| 20:42.19 | greycat | mutt is a mail reader. tin is a news reader. |
| 20:42.28 | greycat | I don't see why you'd ask about them together. |
| 20:42.30 | antgel | Ale_Ryu: someone can, but the manual is better. also look on the internet for example muttrcs |
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| 20:42.49 | saloxin | Zargonog: weird cdplayer that needs special driver? does it show up in dmesg? |
| 20:42.49 | Ale_Ryu | oops |
| 20:42.52 | antgel | greycat: could be my trying-to-be-clever-but-maybe-misleading factoid |
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| 20:43.09 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: if you missed it my uname -r is 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 20:43.21 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i saw it and it made me happy |
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| 20:43.24 | Zargonog | well its the same cd and cdrom that it boots the install from |
| 20:43.33 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: heh, yeah I try to use up-to-date kernels |
| 20:43.38 | antgel | Zargonog: do an md5sum |
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| 20:43.49 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: you'll grow out if it |
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| 20:43.55 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: :-P |
| 20:43.59 | saloxin | Zargonog: yup, but 1st boot is straight from bios, then kernel has to detect cdrom |
| 20:44.04 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: I started with slackware almost ten years ago...I doubt it |
| 20:44.04 | tarzeau | but more network cables, faster internet, everywhere internet |
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| 20:44.17 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: have you removed the apm modules before inserting the acpi? |
| 20:44.17 | greycat | tarzeau: there needs to be a physical medium *somewhere*. |
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| 20:44.28 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: let me try that to make sure |
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| 20:44.35 | tarzeau | hard disk |
| 20:44.50 | greycat | anyway... I give up trying to find out why I can't get the images on that page. |
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| 20:45.11 | Zargonog | hold on lemme check md5s |
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| 20:45.57 | tarzeau | Quinn_Storm: i've compiled gnustep in half an hour |
| 20:46.02 | Quinn_Storm | tarzeau: yeah but I like kde |
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| 20:46.11 | tarzeau | Quinn_Storm: that's fine |
| 20:46.16 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: i once did that at work, on solaris. i had to build gcc and binutils first. the fun. |
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| 20:46.24 | tarzeau | antgel: ouf |
| 20:46.47 | antgel | tarzeau: i had a lot of time on my hands and a desire to learn *nix |
| 20:46.51 | Quinn_Storm | well I tried modprobing the various *acpi* modules I could find, but none of them inserted properly (even after removing apm), and there is no just "acpi" module |
| 20:47.02 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: what error? |
| 20:47.07 | tarzeau | antgel: you learnt awk and sed and the $SHELL too? |
| 20:47.14 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: what laptop for that matter? |
| 20:47.14 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: no such device |
| 20:47.20 | tarzeau | antgel: i'm not sure you learn alot of unix when you compile kde on solaris... |
| 20:47.34 | antgel | tarzeau: yep. they even sent me on a course. mugs. |
| 20:47.40 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: "KDS computers" "Valiant" |
| 20:48.07 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: hmm. is it old? new? sounds like might not have acpi in the hardware |
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| 20:48.18 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: its old...windows thought it had acpi so I'm not sure but its probably apm |
| 20:48.20 | antgel | tarzeau: you'd be surprised |
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| 20:48.39 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: its a k6-2 400Mhz so it can't be that new |
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| 20:48.51 | ecobit | demake is deprecated. are there any other tools besides debhelper? |
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| 20:49.02 | tarzeau | antgel: i've compiled nethack on solaris... |
| 20:49.39 | tarzeau | ecobit: for doing what? |
| 20:49.39 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: does it have a four digit model number? can google. or even better, go in bios and check for apm/acpi enable/disable |
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| 20:49.40 | ecobit | tarzeau: making a .deb from a source package |
| 20:49.46 | tarzeau | ecobit: use debuild |
| 20:49.49 | antgel | tarzeau: it's a close-run thing what's more useless, nethack or kde |
| 20:49.51 | tarzeau | ecobit: and dh-make ? |
| 20:49.54 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: I'll google on it, there's no apm/acpi enable/disable, just a general hardware power management (defaults) control for if no apm or acpi control is loaded in the OS |
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| 20:50.10 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: so bios mentions acpi? |
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| 20:50.18 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: no, doesn't say either |
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| 20:50.23 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: just says "power management" |
| 20:50.29 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: its the most stripped-down bios I've ever seen |
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| 20:50.38 | ecobit | tarzeau: dh-make is just so complex compared with debmake. i'm a newbie and feel overwhelmed by it |
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| 20:50.49 | tarzeau | ecobit: nah dh-make is very simple |
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| 20:50.58 | tarzeau | ecobit: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
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| 20:50.59 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: hmm. my gut feeling is that acpi is mature enough that it should insert on any machine that has it |
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| 20:51.09 | tarzeau | ecobit: what software are you packaging? |
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| 20:51.21 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: and i know fuck all about apm. you could read the kernel source apm docs |
| 20:51.21 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: well there is no just "acpi.ko" module |
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| 20:51.32 | ecobit | tarzeau: yeah if you just want to package a vanilla source. but i have one that i've made a lot of modifications too and its really complex |
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| 20:51.55 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: no, but if you modprobe e.g. processor modules, it should pull in the acpi base |
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| 20:52.13 | tarzeau | ecobit: maybe you want dpatch ? |
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| 20:52.24 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: well there are only a few modules...I'll paste in #flood what a find returns |
| 20:52.24 | tarzeau | ecobit: how large is your diff.gz ? |
| 20:52.33 | ecobit | tarzeau: for example, i've spent 2 days reading, trying to find out exactly how i can include custom files not part of the source, and ones that aren't predesigned into debian, like those in /etc/default how to do it? |
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| 20:52.49 | tarzeau | ecobit: what software is it? |
| 20:52.59 | tarzeau | ecobit: can you put all you've done so far on a webpage? |
| 20:53.01 | Quinn_Storm | and none of those inserts |
| 20:53.16 | Zargonog | ok my cd image md5 is good |
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| 20:53.25 | Zargonog | and i can use it to boot to the installer |
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| 20:53.32 | Zargonog | but then it says it cant mount the cd |
| 20:53.37 | ecobit | tarzeau: one is a custom build of nagios. i've modified some of the original cgi and html files and added my own. i have no idea how dpkg can handle this |
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| 20:53.54 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: hmm. i wonder if acpi is compiled into the kernel, not as a module. take a look in /boot/config-whatever |
| 20:53.54 | tarzeau | ecobit: a cold shudder just run my back |
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| 20:54.10 | ecobit | tarzeau: ? |
| 20:54.21 | tarzeau | ecobit: i felt a freeze when i read what you said |
| 20:54.25 | antgel | Zargonog: you got a normal ide cd-rom? |
| 20:54.26 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: yes its compiled in |
| 20:54.30 | Zargonog | yes |
| 20:54.30 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: CONFIG_ACPI=y |
| 20:54.37 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: there ya go. apm is a module? |
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| 20:54.40 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: yep |
| 20:54.41 | ecobit | tarzeau: why? |
| 20:54.58 | tarzeau | ecobit: i think it has to do with the bad experiences i made with nagios |
| 20:55.10 | tarzeau | ecobit: how many systems are you going to monitor? with alot of dependencies? |
| 20:55.11 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: makes sense. lots more acpi boards now. if yours loaded apm module, that's because it didn't conflict with the acpi code. |
| 20:55.16 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: so is there a reason it might be disabled by default? a kernel parameter I should pass? |
| 20:55.19 | ecobit | tarzeau: well. i am trying this with gnu hello even. |
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| 20:55.23 | takatumi | Quinn_Storm: check dmesg for acpi errors, you might need --force or somesuch. |
| 20:55.30 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: you didn't load apm module, did you? |
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| 20:55.38 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: it loads the apm module with apmd |
| 20:55.44 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: your machine might not support acpi |
| 20:55.59 | ecobit | tarzeau: lets just say i have a file foo.bar that i want in say /usr/bin how/where do i configure the package building system to do that? where to i put the file? |
| 20:56.05 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: well assuming it does, maybe there's a kernel option I need to pass at boot? acpi=on or something like that? I seem to remember that vaguely |
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| 20:56.26 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: what takatumi said |
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| 20:56.36 | Quinn_Storm | takatumi: --force? where & when? |
| 20:56.39 | tarzeau | ecobit: i edit/create a Makefile |
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| 20:56.51 | husein | hi all... |
| 20:56.57 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: check dmesg first, will tell you if acpi hardware is found |
| 20:56.59 | mhall | salutations |
| 20:57.07 | takatumi | Quinn_Storm: dmesg should mention the error and the fix, did for me with an old machine. |
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| 20:57.15 | ecobit | tarzeau: ok. i will look into that. i admit, i don't know that much about gnu make |
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| 20:57.23 | Quinn_Storm | my dmesg has already scrolled off the real info |
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| 20:58.21 | Quinn_Storm | I need to reboot it to check |
| 20:58.21 | tarzeau | Quinn_Storm: wait |
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| 20:58.21 | tarzeau | Quinn_Storm: check dmesg in /var/log |
| 20:58.21 | Quinn_Storm | oh ok d'oh |
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| 20:58.22 | citral | Quinn_Storm: type dmesg | grep acpi |
| 20:58.22 | Quinn_Storm | citral: already did that |
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| 20:58.23 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: it's in the first 39 or so lines of mine, can't miss it |
| 20:58.23 | antgel | grep ACPI |
| 20:58.23 | streuner | citral: are in vacation? |
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| 20:58.23 | Quinn_Storm | ACPI: BIOS age (2000) fails cutoff (2001), acpi=force is required to enable ACPI |
| 20:58.23 | Quinn_Storm | found it |
| 20:58.23 | deal | Good Night, to every body .. |
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| 20:58.26 | tarzeau | deal: sweet dreams |
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| 20:58.43 | citral | streuner: kind of... back in france atm |
| 20:58.43 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: there ya go. add acpi=force to kernel boot params. and think about upgrading your bios |
| 20:58.46 | takatumi | tarzeau: what's new? |
| 20:58.54 | Quinn_Storm | antgel: I think the company is out of business :-P |
| 20:59.03 | streuner | citral: that was the reason why i asked |
| 20:59.05 | deal | why ? it's only eleven. |
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| 20:59.14 | citral | streuner: :) |
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| 20:59.20 | tarzeau | takatumi: nothing, listening to music and can't sleep. ex gf is really pissed (not about me) |
| 20:59.31 | deal | One, question ... Sarge or Ubuntu ? |
| 20:59.37 | mhall | antgel: I had to write a new DSDT |
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| 20:59.38 | tarzeau | takatumi: and i can't forget a few things that i should |
| 20:59.39 | antgel | tarzeau: pissed drunk or pissed angry? |
| 20:59.47 | tarzeau | antgel: pissed sad |
| 20:59.51 | antgel | deal: neither |
| 21:00.02 | antgel | tarzeau: mine is too |
| 21:00.02 | mhall | antgel: Was ist geschehen? |
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| 21:00.06 | takatumi | tarzeau: she's ex and ain't pissed about you, hmm, you still have the hots for her. :P |
| 21:00.07 | tarzeau | antgel: about you? |
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| 21:00.19 | deal | what do U prefer ? |
| 21:00.22 | tarzeau | takatumi: no i don't, we're just good friends |
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| 21:00.36 | citral | deal: we all like cheese |
| 21:00.36 | tarzeau | takatumi: but yeah, she's still hot ;) |
| 21:00.40 | takatumi | tarzeau: :) |
| 21:00.40 | antgel | tarzeau: me, her, life, her internal struggles |
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| 21:00.47 | antgel | !laugh at tarzeau |
| 21:00.49 | dpkg | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! tarzeau just cracks me up! |
| 21:00.50 | tarzeau | antgel: what did you do? |
| 21:01.06 | antgel | mhall: i'm confused and don't speak german |
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| 21:01.25 | mhall | antgel: er n/m |
| 21:01.29 | citral | einverstanden |
| 21:01.38 | deal | I used knoppix, ubuntu and the end I have instaled Sarge .. |
| 21:01.44 | antgel | tarzeau: i told the only girl i ever loved that i couldn't be with her any more as i was getting hurt too much |
| 21:02.06 | citral | deal: better and better... try etch now :) |
| 21:02.09 | antgel | tarzeau: it's ot really. you'll have to wait for the book |
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| 21:02.21 | tarzeau | antgel: you were with her together loving or just as friends? and now you can't see her anymore? |
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| 21:03.07 | deal | do U now a ftp for download etch ? |
| 21:03.08 | antgel | tarzeau: the former. but we were friends for ten years before. we were flatmates for a long time years ago |
| 21:03.13 | antgel | !tell deal about u |
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| 21:03.26 | antgel | tarzeau: and no, i can't see her anymore |
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| 21:03.48 | tarzeau | antgel: because you don't want to see her anymore as it hurts you, or she doesn't want to hurt you, and that you see her anymore? |
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| 21:04.07 | tarzeau | antgel: wait i take it in a query |
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| 21:04.27 | takatumi | gettin all mushy 'ere. |
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| 21:04.57 | EagleCros | well, some humanity into this channel now and then won't hurt |
| 21:04.58 | tarzeau | deal: you can't download etch, you can upgrade to it though over the network, once you have stable |
| 21:05.27 | takatumi | deal: what is wrong with sarge btw? and why do you want to upgrade? |
| 21:05.32 | deal | but etch is unstable, for the moment |
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| 21:06.25 | sgeigerbot | mhall: Thanks for sharing and not sharing. |
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| 21:06.40 | husein | anyone who can help me with to enable my usb mouse laptop? |
| 21:06.51 | EagleCros | usb mouse laptop |
| 21:06.54 | EagleCros | wtf is that |
| 21:07.09 | sgeigerbot | husein: yes, get the XFree86 config file from here: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ |
| 21:07.14 | takatumi | mighty mouse with a laptop screen and one button. |
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| 21:07.18 | sgeigerbot | mhall: good |
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| 21:07.24 | mhall | EagleCros: odd most laptops have got a ps/2 touchpad |
| 21:07.29 | cmatheson | hi, i'm trying to figure out how i can edit my /etc/network/interfaces so that i have an eth0, and eth0:1... the man page refers to a 'logical interface', would that be what eth0:1 is? |
| 21:07.46 | EagleCros | mhall: as mine, indeed |
| 21:07.48 | cmatheson | sorry i should say that i'm trying to get two ip addr's on this one card |
| 21:08.01 | mhall | cmatheson: oh pretty easy |
| 21:08.03 | husein | mhall: thi seens crazy, movin so far |
| 21:08.04 | sgeigerbot | cmatheson: virtual interfaces interfaces: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/interfaces |
| 21:08.20 | cmatheson | sgeigerbot: thanks |
| 21:08.20 | mhall | cmatheson: ifconfig eth0:1 up 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 21:08.27 | cmatheson | mhall: oh rad, just like that, thanks |
| 21:08.35 | mhall | cmatheson: then add some other routes for it if needed |
| 21:08.46 | cmatheson | ok sounds good |
| 21:08.47 | mhall | cmatheson: man interfaces to get the interfaces file method of doing the same thing |
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| 21:09.00 | mhall | cmatheson: but if you just need a quick hack then ifconfig is your friend |
| 21:09.04 | sgeigerbot | mhall: he's editing a config file...not running ifconfig. |
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| 21:09.11 | mhall | cmatheson: like maybe setting up a wireless router etc |
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| 21:09.31 | mhall | husein: what's crazy? |
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| 21:09.48 | cmatheson | mhall: yeah i will need this one permanently, but that will be nice to be able to set it up for now |
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| 21:10.01 | mhall | cmatheson: what ya gonna do with it |
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| 21:10.13 | mhall | cmatheson: h4x0r the botz0r? |
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| 21:10.52 | sgeigerbot | cmatheson: damn...I gave you the url to do it. It's f-ing easy. |
| 21:11.08 | sgeigerbot | cmatheson: don't wimp out like that. :-) |
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| 21:11.22 | mhall | i dislike all of these connections with raw ips |
| 21:11.27 | mhall | and from bizarre foreign countries |
| 21:11.31 | cmatheson | mhall: haha, no, it's for this mail server i'm setting up, it's gotta have two ip addr's (assumes the old server's address as well as a new one) |
| 21:11.36 | cmatheson | sgeigerbot: haha, i'm reading through that two thanks |
| 21:11.36 | takatumi | isn't this one of the worst spambot crap we've had here since times immemorial? |
| 21:11.39 | mhall | cmatheson: ah easy enough |
| 21:11.48 | cmatheson | sgeigerbot: ok i got it |
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| 21:11.52 | mhall | takatumi: worst since 1998 when i came here first |
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| 21:12.16 | takatumi | must be a shitload of infected machines. |
| 21:12.27 | mhall | takatumi: i wonder where they keep coming from |
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| 21:12.41 | mhall | takatumi: because, it seems to me that it'd be pretty tough to hack people anymore |
| 21:12.44 | streuner | mhall: infected machines |
| 21:12.49 | mhall | takatumi: what with the huge installed base of xpsp2 |
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| 21:13.03 | mhall | streuner: no, i mean where the infected machines keep coming from |
| 21:13.42 | streuner | mhall: first it were only turkish IP's and some .id's |
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| 21:13.52 | sgeigerbot | mhall: I would guess that 1/2 of XP users don't have sp2 yet. |
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| 21:14.07 | sgeigerbot | Just knowing the user base.... |
| 21:14.28 | mhall | streuner: id? |
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| 21:14.37 | streuner | !id |
| 21:14.38 | dpkg | i guess id is 1d3nt1f1c4t10n |
| 21:14.42 | mhall | streuner: indonesia |
| 21:14.45 | streuner | mhall: yes |
| 21:14.52 | ma3x | hey |
| 21:14.55 | ma3x | this is really weird |
| 21:14.56 | tarzeau | streuner: for sure it's all turkish names |
| 21:15.02 | tarzeau | streuner: just like the shopkeepers in nethack |
| 21:15.37 | ma3x | I am compiling the source of wxGTK |
| 21:15.46 | ma3x | ./configure --prefix=/home/ma3x/wxGTK --with-gtk --enable-unicode --disable-compat24 --enable-optimise |
| 21:15.53 | mhall | ma3x: just so you know; that's a bitch to do |
| 21:15.54 | ma3x | and I still get the compat24 |
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| 21:16.11 | mhall | ma3x: i did it on sol9 and it took a lot of time and work |
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| 21:16.15 | mhall | ma3x: even on a 20-proc box |
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| 21:16.46 | ma3x | mhall look this |
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| 21:16.57 | BobbyGrace | I need a package called speedstep_centrino, but apt doesn't find it. What can I do ? |
| 21:17.02 | ma3x | Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected. |
| 21:17.02 | ma3x | The library used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx containers,compatible with 2.4), |
| 21:17.02 | ma3x | and your program used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx containers). |
| 21:17.02 | ma3x | Aborted |
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| 21:17.15 | ma3x | ooops sorry for that |
| 21:17.21 | ma3x | I thought it takes just 2 lines |
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| 21:17.34 | Rucas | can someone give me a link to the default xorg.conf that ships with sid? |
| 21:17.40 | ma3x | it says the library is compatible with 2.4 |
| 21:17.55 | ma3x | but i specified option --disable-compat24 |
| 21:17.56 | ma3x | so how come? |
| 21:18.00 | streuner | Rucas: there isn't one, just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 21:18.22 | abrotman | and xmd5 sum |
| 21:18.25 | abrotman | or watever it is |
| 21:18.31 | abrotman | !punish abrotman's fingers |
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| 21:19.08 | ma3x | abrotman, dont be so selfish, just one letter doesnt really matter |
| 21:19.16 | abrotman | ma3x: two |
| 21:19.22 | abrotman | oh .. one |
| 21:19.27 | abrotman | and i screwed up the factoid |
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| 21:19.44 | BobbyGrace | is the speedstep_centrino module located in a package with a different name ? cant find any place to down it, because it's meant to be included with the kernel. but it isnt |
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| 21:20.00 | takatumi | BobbyGrace: built in probably CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO |
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| 21:20.02 | abrotman | !cpufreq |
| 21:20.02 | dpkg | well, cpufreq is a patch (http://www.brodo.de/cpufreq_old) to the 2.4.x kernels to support frequency scaling on mobile x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It has been merged into the 2.6.x series. It provides a simple interface (/proc/cpufreq) through which userspace daemons like cpudynd (in the "cpudyn" package) can throttle processor speed to save power when the system is idle. |
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| 21:20.19 | chrysopa | Hi |
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| 21:20.44 | abrotman | Why hello chrysopa .. how is your day going? |
| 21:20.50 | chrysopa | How to slow down an USB 2 device? |
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| 21:21.12 | abrotman | slow down? |
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| 21:21.18 | takatumi | friction? |
| 21:21.20 | sgeigerbot | chrysopa: If is is a mouse, catch its tail. |
| 21:21.28 | sgeigerbot | tail -f /dev/mouse |
| 21:21.33 | abrotman | not funny! |
| 21:21.45 | BobbyGrace | takatumi: how do I load the module if it |
| 21:21.45 | streuner | !br |
| 21:21.45 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 21:22.09 | chrysopa | abrotman, yes, my USB 2 external IDE HD, freeze. But with USB 1 it work. |
| 21:22.10 | BobbyGrace | takatumi: how di I load the module if it's built in config_x86_speedsted_centrino ? |
| 21:22.13 | sgeigerbot | chrysopa: which device is it? why/how does it go to fast? |
| 21:22.19 | chrysopa | It freeze only with large files |
| 21:22.28 | sgeigerbot | chrysopa: make sure you have the newest drivers. |
| 21:22.30 | abrotman | are you sure it's frozen ? .. and not just thinking really hard? |
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| 21:22.45 | chrysopa | I think so, I use testing version |
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| 21:23.15 | takatumi | BobbyGrace: grep -i centr /boot/config-2.x.x.x to check if it is m or y, modprobe -l or modconf if you don't know the module names. |
| 21:23.37 | chrysopa | I test the transfer in a USB 1 device and it work, slow (500kb/s) but work. |
| 21:23.38 | abrotman | takatumi: config-`uname -r` ? |
| 21:23.49 | takatumi | abrotman: better. |
| 21:23.57 | abrotman | yes |
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| 21:24.17 | chrysopa | I test with USB 2 and it work fast (5mb/s) but it freeze randomly or with a large file. |
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| 21:25.08 | chrysopa | Is possible to make the transfer rate in USB 2 slowdown from 5mb/s to 1mb/s for testings? |
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| 21:26.35 | sgeigerbot | chrysopa: Sounds like a driver-level question to me. That's not the sort of thing people here know much about. |
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| 21:26.56 | abrotman | chrysopa: i'd email the kernel-dev people .. perhaps it's a known issue with your device |
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| 21:27.15 | sgeigerbot | chrysopa: which kernel are you using? |
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| 21:27.23 | Quinn_Storm | well, good and bad news |
| 21:27.25 | Quinn_Storm | good news acpi works |
| 21:27.31 | chrysopa | sgeigerbot, 2.6.11 |
| 21:27.45 | Quinn_Storm | bad news...the battery system is screwed up...when you insert the battery, the laptop reads the proper capacity then suddenly the wrong capacity a second later, and thus refuses to charge it |
| 21:27.49 | sgeigerbot | chrysopa: That's pretty new. Still, that's not the newest kernel. |
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| 21:28.04 | Quinn_Storm | it reads 3800mAh which is right then suddenly recieves a spurious 8mAh |
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| 21:28.19 | Quinn_Storm | this is the same behaviour as windows of course |
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| 21:28.24 | BobbyGrace | takatumi: modprobe -l tells me there are a module called speedstep-centrino in /lib/blah-blah-blah/cpufreq/ , but when I try to modprobe speedstep-centrino, I get the message "Error inserting speedstep centrino, ( /lib/blah-blah-blah/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko) No such device"... but the device is there !!!! |
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| 21:28.30 | Quinn_Storm | so maybe I need to actually roll back the bios...I wish I had the old bios handy...I think it worked with it |
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| 21:28.47 | chrysopa | sgeigerbot, do you think that I need to make a kernel upgrade? |
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| 21:29.37 | sgeigerbot | chrysopa: It *MIGHT* help. No guarantees. If you have a fast machine and you are good at compiling kernels (that is, it's not much hassle for you), I'd give that a try. |
| 21:29.41 | takatumi | BobbyGrace: so the module is there, you sure the hardware supports it? |
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| 21:29.45 | ThePiratemaster | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:30.03 | ThePiratemaster | i really dunno how the cvs system works O_O |
| 21:30.03 | Quinn_Storm | anyone know where to find (old) bios files for a company that's out of business? |
| 21:30.26 | takatumi | Quinn_Storm: waybackmachine.org :) |
| 21:30.30 | chrysopa | sgeigerbot, Also I try to install a New kernel version before. |
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| 21:31.08 | sgeigerbot | ThePiratemaster: Try here instead: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/dl |
| 21:31.10 | husein | antgel: are you busy for help me to get wireless conection?. What i ve done is this:lspci recognize wifi card. I installed ieee80211-source and wireless-tools. Doing iwfconfig me salen lo, eth0 and sit0 as wireless extension. Any help? |
| 21:31.31 | BobbyGrace | takatumi: I think So. I have a Pentium M processor. centrino platform |
| 21:31.33 | antgel | husein: did you reinstall stable? |
| 21:31.37 | chrysopa | The error that I received is: kernel: journal commit I/O error |
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| 21:32.02 | husein | antgel: update source.list to testing |
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| 21:32.11 | ThePiratemaster | sgeigerbot, no i need the cvs one |
| 21:32.18 | takatumi | BobbyGrace: googled? |
| 21:32.21 | ThePiratemaster | it has support for a new tablet i own |
| 21:32.28 | ThePiratemaster | (volito2) |
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| 21:32.32 | chrysopa | If i remove the jornal, make the ext3 to ext2 maybe fix the problem or this is no sense? |
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| 21:33.03 | BobbyGrace | takatumi: Yes, but every site I find tells me that this module is included in the kernel, I just have to edit /etc/modules to load the module. |
| 21:33.09 | BobbyGrace | anyways, going to bed now |
| 21:33.21 | BobbyGrace | tired eyes do no good |
| 21:33.25 | antgel | husein: i don't know why you don't run stable. i've told you until i am blue in the face. there's your help. i also don't understand your question so you need to explain the iwconfig bit better. |
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| 21:35.58 | antgel | ThePiratemaster: viewcvs is generally for browsing code. if you want to grab the cvs, there will be instructions on the main part of the website. |
| 21:36.41 | antgel | Quinn_Storm: it's no coincidence that linux wasn't keen to load the acpi code |
| 21:36.52 | husein | antgel: here you have |
| 21:36.54 | husein | http://pastebin.com/351386 |
| 21:36.58 | ThePiratemaster | so i could grab the files that involve the volito-support changes and replace them in my downloaded tarball? |
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| 21:37.22 | antgel | ThePiratemaster: no, grab the entire thing from cvs. |
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| 21:37.41 | antgel | husein: what wifi card? |
| 21:37.44 | ThePiratemaster | so just download all the files and directories? |
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| 21:38.05 | antgel | ThePiratemaster: what i said above about instructions |
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| 21:38.38 | ThePiratemaster | there are no intructions on the webpage |
| 21:38.43 | ThePiratemaster | i'll check the docu |
| 21:38.44 | husein | antgel: Intel® Pro/Wireless 2200 802.11b/g |
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| 21:39.17 | stew | husein: /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
| 21:39.28 | takatumi | the bots are spreading fast. |
| 21:39.53 | antgel | stew: thanks |
| 21:40.01 | stew | for? |
| 21:40.12 | antgel | helping me help him :) |
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| 21:40.15 | stew | ahh :) |
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| 21:40.32 | husein | stew: i tried it but it is not found |
| 21:40.34 | antgel | ThePiratemaster: you didn't look very hard. /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
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| 21:40.38 | antgel | doh |
| 21:40.46 | antgel | ThePiratemaster: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=69596 |
| 21:40.50 | grendal_prime | ok im making some headway with secvpn...but can somone please look at secvpn.conf and tell me if im missing something? |
| 21:40.53 | stew | husein: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 21:41.25 | husein | stew: sorry i dnt understand you |
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| 21:41.47 | stew | !tell husein about ipw2200 |
| 21:41.50 | takatumi | !tell husein -about contrib |
| 21:42.00 | stew | husein: the dpkg bot sent you instructions |
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| 21:42.45 | husein | ummm |
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| 21:42.56 | husein | so i must download it and compile it |
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| 21:43.09 | stew | !ipw2200 |
| 21:43.09 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-source-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200 |
| 21:43.17 | xhypno | I am currently building a debian focused laptop install and help site. If you have installed Debian on a laptop with problems and found soultions, please send me a tarball containing your main configs (modules hotplug/blacklist, X11/XF86config-4, modprobe.d/aliases, etc) and your laptops make and specs (including model number), when I recieve this I will begin to build the database of working system configs and walkthroughs for debian on laptops |
| 21:43.17 | xhypno | . THIS SITE WILL BE DEBIAN ONLY! (I think it is about time someone made a dedicated Debian laptop site). philip@progmad.com |
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| 21:43.50 | xhypno | sorry wrong button |
| 21:43.52 | antgel | xhypno: is that prog as in prog rock? |
| 21:43.54 | stew | husein: m-a will download and compile it for you |
| 21:44.09 | husein | stew: m-a ? |
| 21:44.13 | xhypno | antgel: progmad = programming madness |
| 21:44.21 | antgel | xhypno: your loss :) |
| 21:44.35 | stew | !module-assistant |
| 21:44.35 | dpkg | i guess module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 21:44.36 | xhypno | antgel: lol. :P |
| 21:44.37 | tam | does anyone know why i would get this error with kontact: 'KMail could not create directory $HOME/Mail' even tho' it is there and it is writable according to the perms i have set |
| 21:44.55 | antgel | tam: ls -l ~/Mail |
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| 21:45.01 | antgel | tam: echo $HOME |
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| 21:45.08 | paulswm | Yeah like I'm about to dl all my configs and hardware specs based on a request on IRC |
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| 21:45.18 | takatumi | :) |
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| 21:45.38 | xhypno | who was asking about ipw2200 |
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| 21:45.46 | xhypno | I know I saw it |
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| 21:46.24 | tam | antgel: ls -l says total 0 because it is a new folder (i created it) and echo $HOME displayed /home/tam as expected :/ |
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| 21:46.40 | antgel | tam: sorry, ls -ld |
| 21:46.44 | husein | stew: i type m-a prepare && m-a a-i ipw2200. It have finished |
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| 21:46.56 | tam | antgel: drwxrwx--x 80 tam tam 4096 2005-08-31 22:46 . |
| 21:46.56 | yel | hi everyone! |
| 21:47.11 | antgel | tam: hold on, it says it can't create the directory. that's because it's already there |
| 21:47.11 | xhypno | husein: did you compile and install ieee80211 first?? |
| 21:47.24 | Maneit | On a notebook, 'lspci' should find the IrDA-device, right? |
| 21:47.25 | tam | antgel: yeah, i deleted it and it still says the same |
| 21:47.26 | xhypno | husein: it is required to build ipw2200 |
| 21:47.28 | antgel | hello doctor nick |
| 21:47.52 | husein | xhypno: apt-get install ieee80211-source |
| 21:47.59 | husein | is what i did |
| 21:48.02 | tam | antgel: weird eh? |
| 21:48.22 | antgel | tam: is there anything in there? delete the directory if not and try again |
| 21:48.26 | xhypno | yeah, and you need to install the 2.6.9 or newer kernel also |
| 21:48.58 | xhypno | husein, I would suggest going to ieee80211.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net to download the lasted source |
| 21:49.12 | grendal_prime | i have an app that trys to connect to another server and i get an error about the sshkey not working right, but the logs do not show an auth error |
| 21:49.12 | husein | xhypno http://pastebin.com/351395 |
| 21:49.14 | antgel | xhypno: are you aware of husein's level of competence? |
| 21:49.23 | xhypno | antgel: no |
| 21:49.43 | tam | antgel: nothing in it. i have deleted it and same error occurred. i also purged kontact/kmail (backed up the important files first ofcourse) and then tried again with no joy |
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| 21:49.54 | antgel | xhypno: i can see that. seriously he's reinstalled 350 times this week. please don't tell him to do anything involving more than simple commands |
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| 21:49.55 | husein | i am really lost. |
| 21:49.56 | stew | xhypno: i didn't have to do anything with ieee80211-source to get my ipw2200 working |
| 21:49.56 | yel | can anyone of you guys help me with this isse i can#t su to a user each tome i try i gets : su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
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| 21:50.16 | antgel | yel: you using ldap? /etc/passwd? |
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| 21:50.26 | xhypno | depends on the kernel 2.6.10 and newer have ieee80211 compiled in |
| 21:50.27 | stew | husein: did you download and install firmware? |
| 21:50.28 | antgel | tam: when you delete it, does it get recreated? |
| 21:50.34 | yel | no iam using pam |
| 21:50.42 | antgel | yel: pam to what? |
| 21:50.42 | lolo | hi |
| 21:50.51 | husein | stew: which package? |
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| 21:50.54 | xhypno | stew: depends on the kernel 2.6.10 and newer have ieee80211 compiled in |
| 21:50.58 | tam | antgel: nope |
| 21:50.59 | stew | xhypno: ahh ok |
| 21:51.05 | yel | antgel, to authenticate |
| 21:51.07 | lolo | is there a way to tell X to reload fonts without xfs-server ? |
| 21:51.10 | tam | antgel: on yah go :P thanks for the help ! |
| 21:51.14 | husein | portatil:~# uname -a |
| 21:51.15 | husein | Linux portatil 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:51.18 | xhypno | husein: no package go to ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php |
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| 21:51.27 | antgel | tam: you running unstable? that's an easy excuse for me not to help when i don't know the answer |
| 21:51.29 | johaBBa | ? etch |
| 21:51.34 | stew | hyde: ipw2200.sf.net has firmware that needs to be put into /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| 21:51.41 | xhypno | husein: it is non-open source code. |
| 21:51.55 | takatumi | stew: did you check his pastebin link? contrib error. |
| 21:52.08 | xhypno | stew: you on a laptop |
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| 21:52.12 | tam | antgel: no, testing...but (the home dir) was unstable before i formatted some partitions |
| 21:52.15 | antgel | yel: i know that. but pam to ldap? do you know what ldap is? have fucked with /etc/pam.d/*? |
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| 21:52.24 | antgel | tam: ls -ld ~? |
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| 21:52.44 | stew | husein: uhh you didn't add contrib |
| 21:52.47 | johaBBa | is Xorg in etch? |
| 21:52.49 | tam | antgel: drwxrwx--x 79 tam tam 4096 2005-08-31 22:48 /home/tam |
| 21:53.05 | xhypno | !dpkq tell johaBBA about xorg |
| 21:53.06 | yel | antgel, iam using saslauthd |
| 21:53.13 | xhypno | !dpkg tell johaBBA about xorg |
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| 21:53.17 | johaBBa | ah..thx |
| 21:53.26 | antgel | tam: checked the bts? does this problem stop kontact from loading? |
| 21:53.28 | husein | stew: so, first step? |
| 21:53.33 | antgel | yel: for what? |
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| 21:53.37 | stew | husein: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 21:53.48 | antgel | yel: i don't have a clue about sasl. what does it have to do with su? |
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| 21:53.56 | xhypno | husein: what type of laptop are you on? |
| 21:53.59 | tam | antgel: if i remove kmail it works perfectly with 1 error per startup |
| 21:54.05 | tam | antgel: i guess i'll do that... |
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| 21:54.10 | xhypno | stew: what type of laptop do you have? |
| 21:54.14 | husein | xhypno: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/es/es/ho/WF06b/21955-186135-179493-179493-179493-12150564-37666391.html |
| 21:54.18 | antgel | tam: remove kde ;) |
| 21:54.28 | tam | antgel: hehe :P |
| 21:54.33 | stew | xhypno: thinkpads: t42s, t30 and t23 |
| 21:55.06 | xhypno | stew: do you want to contrib to the Debian Laptop database and site I am building. |
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| 21:55.25 | xhypno | husein: ah, similar to mine, I have an HP dv1240us |
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| 21:55.35 | stew | xhypno: sure, i was going to contribute to tuxmobil whenever i had time to get all the stuff together |
| 21:55.43 | husein | xhypno: so...you would help me?= |
| 21:56.04 | antgel | !breastfeed husein |
| 21:56.13 | thingfish | hehe |
| 21:56.13 | stew | husein: did you add contrib sources yet? |
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| 21:56.36 | xhypno | stew: read the post I made to the debian-user and debian-laptop lists, it has the info. I am building a Debian only laptop info repo |
| 21:56.56 | husein | stew:; apt-setup? |
| 21:57.05 | takatumi | heh |
| 21:57.05 | antgel | stew: snap :) |
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| 21:57.35 | stew | husein: read this VVVV |
| 21:57.36 | antgel | stew: you have enough laptops for three people and enought patience for ten people! |
| 21:57.37 | stew | !contrib |
| 21:57.37 | dpkg | hmm... contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free packages To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need contrib on the end. |
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| 21:58.19 | stew | husein: editor /etc/apt/sources.list ; where it says "main", make it say "main contrib"; then apt-get update |
| 21:58.20 | antgel | husein: when someone says to you /msg dpkg something, you're supposed to type that, then dpkg will give you a reply (or some breast milk) |
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| 21:58.45 | antgel | um, does contrib not require non-free as well? |
| 21:58.45 | stew | antgel: someday my wife and i should start a thinkpad museum / graveyard |
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| 21:58.57 | xhypno | husein: the install the newest kernel from apt, then dl the newest ieee80211 and ipw2200 (driver and firmware), the follow the include INSTALL files and it will work perfectly |
| 21:59.03 | stew | antgel: not in this case |
| 21:59.03 | husein | i never underestood dpkg in irc.. |
| 21:59.11 | antgel | stew: my ex-gf had a thinkpad. don't get me started. |
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| 21:59.22 | stew | antgel: the non-free stuff in this case is firmware which isn't available in non-free |
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| 21:59.32 | antgel | husein: if you don't fucking understand, why not tell us that we are sending you stuff and wasting our time? |
| 21:59.36 | xhypno | stew: yup |
| 21:59.58 | xhypno | antgel: I can't wait till I have the site up, it will help |
| 22:00.14 | antgel | xhypno: i can't wait either. is it up yet? |
| 22:00.31 | husein | antgel: i thougth it was " " (dont know word), When one is furius. |
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| 22:00.55 | husein | you underestand me? |
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| 22:01.11 | antgel | husein: not really but i can't bring myself to /ignore you :) |
| 22:01.21 | xhypno | antgel: not yet. I am buying debian-laptop.org right now |
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| 22:01.49 | antgel | xhypno: too late, i just bought it. sell it to you for $5000 |
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| 22:02.01 | xhypno | lol, real funny |
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| 22:03.21 | nvz | speaking of buying websites we are in need of a host for the leetsdale website if anyone has any suggestions for cheap and simple host. |
| 22:03.37 | stew | what is leetsdale? |
| 22:03.45 | nvz | the town I live in |
| 22:03.51 | stew | heh, sonds l33t |
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| 22:03.54 | nvz | we dont need mysql, php, or anything like that |
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| 22:04.09 | nvz | I am most likely designing the site and wont be using anything such |
| 22:04.26 | moZer | hi, i'm trying to build the tomcat apr connector on ubuntu, but it seems that apr_rules.mk is missing...almost all other distributions package it with apache-dev, in /usr/share/apache2/build, but it's not present, and i can't find it with apt-cache or debian's web packet search either |
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| 22:04.54 | nvz | our last provider dumped us.. my dad says without warning, but he just apperently didnt grok the emails the geek was sending him |
| 22:04.55 | takatumi | moZer: #ubuntu |
| 22:05.07 | thingfish | moZer: are you with ubuntu now? |
| 22:05.36 | moZer | yes i am, and i've asked in #ubuntu too |
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| 22:05.59 | moZer | but i figured that the packages are similar, and i tried finding the file in any debian package too and failed |
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| 22:07.01 | grendal_prime | stew ever use secvpn |
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| 22:09.54 | husein | xhypno: http://pastebin.com/351411 |
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| 22:10.28 | husein | someone failed:Err http://ftp.es.debian.org testing/non-US/main Packages |
| 22:10.28 | husein | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.39 | husein | do i have the right ones? |
| 22:10.53 | antgel | husein: paste the whole thing ffs |
| 22:11.04 | nvz | only not in here |
| 22:11.10 | dondelelcaro | husein: see /topic; non-US is no more. |
| 22:11.20 | stew | grendal_prime: nope |
| 22:11.31 | grendal_prime | grrrr |
| 22:11.32 | dondelelcaro | !tell husein -about crypto in main |
| 22:11.34 | grendal_prime | this is making me nuts |
| 22:11.35 | grendal_prime | Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). |
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| 22:11.45 | husein | it was a old backup |
| 22:11.47 | grendal_prime | yet there is no log for it |
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| 22:11.57 | xhypno | husein: the garbage on that page has no meaning |
| 22:11.57 | stew | grendal_prime: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
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| 22:12.19 | grendal_prime | and i cant figure if that is for the |
| 22:12.21 | xhypno | Ok, debian-laptop.org is now the address of the debain laptop repo |
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| 22:12.24 | husein | xhypno; can you let me see yours? |
| 22:12.42 | husein | or where can i get the right ones? |
| 22:12.44 | dondelelcaro | husein: doesn't matter; the non-US line in your sources.list is useless and needs to be removed. |
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| 22:13.08 | nvz | oh well my win98 cd has a few scratches on the label side.. looks like all my pcs will be debian.. what a crying shame eh? |
| 22:13.15 | Quinn_Storm | argh, the company is out of business, and totally giving me the run-around on getting a bios. waybackmachine unfortunately doesn't have the bios files b/c they were behind a server-side system |
| 22:13.15 | xhypno | husein: go to ieee80211.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net and read the install instructions, they are st8 fwd |
| 22:14.07 | husein | xhypno: so. with these lines....i have the right ones? http://pastebin.com/351416 |
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| 22:15.08 | xhypno | husein: for using the repo's yes |
| 22:15.09 | Boter | hello |
| 22:15.16 | Boter | how to upgrade to sarge? |
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| 22:15.44 | justin | !tell Boter about woody->sarge |
| 22:15.46 | nvz | about bridging. the howto docs show use of these brctl commands... do I have to type these to bridge my interfaces everytime the machine boots or is this stuff put into interfaces file or somewhere else? |
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| 22:16.13 | husein | xhypno: just intall fireware? |
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| 22:16.18 | justin | nvz: if you put them in the interfaces file they will be |
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| 22:16.44 | xhypno | husein: go to ieee80211.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net and read the install instructions, they are st8 fwd |
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| 22:16.49 | nvz | justin: heh, yeah but is that what should be done to assure they are always bridged or does just running the command make it perminant? |
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| 22:16.56 | takatumi | Quinn_Storm: that was a joke dude, you didn't expect to get the bios file there. :) |
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| 22:17.01 | xhypno | just setting up the repos wont get it working |
| 22:17.11 | justin | nvz: no, you have to put it in the interfaces file |
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| 22:17.17 | Quinn_Storm | takatumi: you never know...they cache a lot of things |
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| 22:17.20 | nvz | justin: ok, ty |
| 22:17.28 | Quinn_Storm | takatumi: but no, though I did think maybe I could get something to search on |
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| 22:17.38 | Quinn_Storm | if I even knew the filename I could at least do a gnutella search |
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| 22:18.34 | Skrotto | Hi! Can I builld lirc-modules-source from a stock kernel (linux-kernel-2.6.12) without recompiling the whole kernel? |
| 22:18.35 | husein | xhypno: wireless-tools i downloaded from apt-get. no problem? |
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| 22:19.01 | nvz | Skrotto: to build modules all you need is the right header files |
| 22:19.13 | Blissex | Skrotto: probably yes, if the kernel sources are prepped (configured). |
| 22:19.14 | Skrotto | Ihve got the headers, nvz :) |
| 22:19.24 | Skrotto | I've got kernel-headers and kernel-source |
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| 22:19.41 | Skrotto | Blissex: does that mean "make configure" inside the kernel-source dir? |
| 22:19.50 | Boter | shure :) |
| 22:19.54 | xhypno | husein: go to ieee80211.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net and read the install instructions, they are st8 fwd |
| 22:19.55 | takatumi | Skrotto: use module-assistant |
| 22:20.03 | xhypno | Last time I will say it!!!!! |
| 22:20.12 | Blissex | Skrotto: basically yes. but do as takatumi suggests... |
| 22:20.12 | nvz | oh well I am going to give this ethernet bridging a go.. and it seems I have to take this interface down to do it so I will be back later.. |
| 22:20.17 | xhypno | Man this guy doesn't get it |
| 22:20.22 | Skrotto | takatumi: care to help me use it? I'm not too stable with the debian kernel tools :> |
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| 22:21.23 | takatumi | Skrotto: m-a prepare && m-a a-i lirc-modules is probably what you need. |
| 22:21.32 | Boter | justin so i just write what bot wrote and that's all= |
| 22:21.32 | Boter | ? |
| 22:21.32 | smcavoy | hello. I am wondering what the best kernel to use for a P4 with HT. should I go with the regular 686 or the 686-smp ? |
| 22:21.36 | Skrotto | takatumi: from kernel-source or modules/ ? |
| 22:22.00 | takatumi | Skrotto: man m-a |
| 22:22.01 | drac | smcavoy: -smp |
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| 22:22.32 | drac | smcavoy: cause linux handles HT as "2 processors" |
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| 22:23.35 | smcavoy | drac: ok. is there much of a difference between using SMP and and custom kernel with HT enabled? |
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| 22:23.36 | axiom242 | how come dpkg --set-selections < packages.txt returns nothing? nothing happens... |
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| 22:23.49 | takatumi | Skrotto: there is a neat UI as well, just type m-a. |
| 22:23.59 | drac | smcavoy: if you use custom kernel, you have to enable SMP too, to enable SMT, to enable HT. |
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| 22:24.10 | Skrotto | which package is m-a in, takatumi? |
| 22:24.17 | PaPyRene10 | My company's portable Compaq Armada Windows NT4.0, with important data on the D drive, crashed (ntoskrnl.exe damaged). I told my boss "no problem to save the data with my Knoppix live cd!". Indeed, I did a linux CD-boot, mounted /dev/hda5, saw all the lost data, could ping the LAN and surfed the internet! "Fantastic, get the data!" said my boss. But both disappointed in linux: I couldn't!! What did I miss? |
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| 22:24.27 | drac | smcavoy: so, it would be smp kernel anyway. |
| 22:24.48 | smcavoy | drac: ok thanks! |
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| 22:24.52 | xhypno | I am pleased to announce that debian-laptop.org will be the home of the Debain on Laptops Information and Guide repo. |
| 22:24.54 | mith | PaPyRene10: hardware motherfucking failure |
| 22:25.01 | cheal | PaPyRene10: do you have a debian question? |
| 22:25.02 | griswold | i forgot my root password and i'm using a user account right now. Is there a way to recover that pass? |
| 22:25.06 | husein | xhypno: i will not be able. My english is poor. Also, i must have a image kernel with no source to edit it using make menuconfig |
| 22:25.12 | cheal | griswold: muahaha |
| 22:25.17 | mith | PaPyRene10: also, you're about to lose your job for not having proper backups, or was I not supposed to mention that part of it? |
| 22:25.28 | cheal | griswold: hopefully not |
| 22:25.28 | husein | so i cant select modules to load then |
| 22:25.42 | takatumi | Skrotto: module-assistant |
| 22:25.47 | griswold | that's what I was afraid of |
| 22:25.51 | antgel | PaPyRene10: if you can see the files, you should be able to copy them somewhere. |
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| 22:26.01 | griswold | so i'm going to have to reinstall? |
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| 22:26.16 | PaPyRene10 | I wanted to copy the lost data with the linux live cd over the LAN on a windows pc |
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| 22:26.27 | nvz | well that was easy.. however I just realized I have a problem.. for this ethernet bridge to work I need crossover cables I guess |
| 22:26.29 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 22:26.30 | Quinn_Storm | this is why I hate closed-source...if it was open-source I'd just fix the #(%*#% bios bug and recompile...its a very obvious bug, its just misreading some data it fetches from the battery's firmware |
| 22:26.33 | petemc | PaPyRene10: and what stopped you? you didnt know how? |
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| 22:26.38 | antgel | !tell PaPyRene10 about samba |
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| 22:27.09 | cadu | griswold: nice try ;) |
| 22:27.13 | nvz | I had not even thought about needing crossover cables when I did this |
| 22:27.29 | xhypno | husein: unfortunately, what I would type would be the eact things in the INSTALL docs, and then you will have more time to view it |
| 22:27.35 | nvz | but I am pretty sure its not going to work without them |
| 22:27.40 | xhypno | s/eact/exact/ |
| 22:27.44 | xhypno | lo |
| 22:27.48 | xhypno | s/lo/lol |
| 22:27.54 | cadu | PaPyRene10: you said the important files were on the D: drive |
| 22:27.56 | obsmav | in my kde control center under the "loggin manager" sub section, there is no tab for "session types". how do i add a window manager to kdm withot this tab and how do i get it ? |
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| 22:28.04 | cadu | PaPyRene10: why don't you just reinstall windows xp on the C: drive ? duh : ) |
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| 22:28.25 | lndark | hi |
| 22:28.28 | cadu | hi |
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| 22:28.44 | elvirolo | i actually use ubuntu, but i have been seraching through the ubuntu forums and asked in IRC but i still have't got my prob fix ... lsusb has no output a ALL, so the usb printer doesn't seem to be detected ... is there a kernel module i must load or something ? |
| 22:28.50 | nvz | this sucks I thought this bridge was going to be an easy solution and I totally overlooked the fact that I would need crossover cables |
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| 22:29.00 | cadu | elvirolo: other usb devices work at all? |
| 22:29.09 | cadu | elvirolo: modprobe uhci-hcd ? ehci-hcd ? |
| 22:29.09 | elvirolo | cadu: no |
| 22:29.14 | cheal | !tell griswold about i forgot root's password |
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| 22:29.20 | PaPyRene10 | mith: it was the pc of a user who didn't work on the servers ;-) |
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| 22:29.34 | cheal | obsmav: ask #debian-kde |
| 22:29.35 | lndark | i've a little huge pbm with a samba server, it should work like de PDC, but i cant log a single user from anywhere |
| 22:29.42 | PaPyRene10 | antgel: copy yes, but how? |
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| 22:29.47 | mith | PaPyRene10: so, you'll still get blamed. |
| 22:29.50 | husein | xhypno: What do you thing about this howto?. could it be usefull to lead it as it is? -->http://jyr.freesuperhost.com/files/Howtos/howto-laptop-debian.txt |
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| 22:29.56 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | hiall |
| 22:29.58 | griswold | alright, i'll give it a try |
| 22:30.00 | griswold | thx |
| 22:30.02 | obsmav | cheal, thanx, i didnt know there was a chan for that |
| 22:30.06 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | hey griswold |
| 22:30.13 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | do you love youre mama? |
| 22:30.14 | griswold | yeh |
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| 22:30.25 | griswold | no, she's a fat whore! |
| 22:30.31 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | do u like to leak'er pussy? |
| 22:30.34 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | %$))) |
| 22:30.34 | elvirolo | cadu : they _are_ loaded, but it makes no difference :( |
| 22:30.36 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ok ok |
| 22:30.37 | lndark | anynody have an answer for me plz ??? |
| 22:30.37 | cadu | griswold: that steps assume you hadn't put a password on LILO/GRUB, or at least you can remember *ahem* ( yeah right ) then... |
| 22:30.42 | cadu | elvirolo: dmesg output ? |
| 22:30.53 | griswold | yeah, grub is password free |
| 22:30.57 | nvz | I wonder if radioshack sells something cheap that I can use other than electrical tape to do these crossovers :P they probably sell crossover cables but for what I would pay for two of those I could probably buy a fucking hub and not have to setup this bridge |
| 22:31.01 | Skrotto | Hi. I'm trying to compile lirc-modules-source, and I need to supply a "IO port" and "IRQ adress", any idea how I can find it? |
| 22:31.05 | PaPyRene10 | cadu: it is win nt4.0 not wp |
| 22:31.08 | xhypno | Husein, that is the same things we have been telling you |
| 22:31.20 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL! |
| 22:31.20 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL! |
| 22:31.21 | *** kick/#debian [LENIN_BOLSHEVIK!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
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| 22:31.23 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL! |
| 22:31.27 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL! |
| 22:31.29 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL! |
| 22:31.31 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL!! |
| 22:31.33 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! |
| 22:31.34 | znx | er |
| 22:31.35 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!! |
| 22:31.36 | znx | OPS! |
| 22:31.37 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! |
| 22:31.39 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!! |
| 22:31.41 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!! |
| 22:31.43 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:31.45 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | anals |
| 22:31.50 | nvz | !ops fucktard alert |
| 22:31.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: fucktard alert |
| 22:31.52 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom |
| 22:31.52 | PaPyRene10 | mith: if they don't follow my instructions they get blames not me ;-) |
| 22:31.56 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom! |
| 22:31.56 | znx | ty nvz |
| 22:31.57 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!! |
| 22:31.58 | xhypno | !dpkg hurt LENIN_BOLSHEVIK |
| 22:31.58 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!! |
| 22:31.59 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!! |
| 22:32.00 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!! |
| 22:32.01 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!! |
| 22:32.02 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!! |
| 22:32.03 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!!! |
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| 22:32.05 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!!!! |
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| 22:32.05 | drac | !ops please. |
| 22:32.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: please. |
| 22:32.07 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:32.10 | *** part/#debian ayse_ (n=ukcsdo@c-66-176-135-228.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:32.11 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | dpkg Êòî ðàíî âñòàåò - ïîø¸ë íà xyé. |
| 22:32.11 | *** part/#debian dicLe_ (n=okyay@c-66-176-135-228.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:32.14 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | xhypno ðâàíûé øòîïàíûé ãàíäîË! |
| 22:32.15 | petemc | good grammar |
| 22:32.16 | mith | PaPyRene10: uhhuh, say that again in a few hours |
| 22:32.16 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | xhypno È âîëêè - íà õóé, è îâöû - íà xyé! |
| 22:32.17 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | xhypno Ðåêîìåíäóåìàÿ ëèòåðàòóðà: |
| 22:32.19 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | xhypno 3. "Ïòèöà ïðîòèâ òàíêà". Âîåíèçäàò, 1982. |
| 22:32.21 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | xhypno |
| 22:32.21 | antgel | bad speller |
| 22:32.21 | znx | oh lord.. wtf |
| 22:32.23 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | xhypno Ïî÷òè âñå ãîðîäñêèå äÿòëû - îäíîðàçîâûå, ñ ïëàñòèêîâûìè êëþâàìè 9X12 è èçìåíÿåìîé ãåîìåòðèåé êðûëà. Ïðîìûøëåííûé ïíåâìàòè÷åñêèé äÿòåë äî ñèõ ïîð âûçûâàåò ñïîðû ñðåäè îðíèòîëîãîâ.  ÷àñòíîñòè, ïîäâåðãàåòñÿ ñîìíåíèþ åãî ñïîñîáíîñòü ê âîñïðîèçâîäñòâó, õîòÿ â Êóçáàññå òàê íàçûâàåìûå "îòáîéíûå" äÿòëû ñèäÿò â îãðîìíûõ êîëè÷åñòâàõ íà âñåõ äåðåâüÿõ è äàæå ïîëüçóþòñÿ íåêîòîðûìè ãðàæäàíñêèìè ïðàâàìè íàðÿäó ñ ãîâîðÿùèìè ïîïóãàÿìè. |
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| 22:32.27 | znx | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: leave please |
| 22:32.28 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | YES |
| 22:32.30 | djace | oh come on kids, go somewhere else |
| 22:32.30 | takatumi | RichiH: ping |
| 22:32.31 | djace | :) |
| 22:32.32 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUCK OFF |
| 22:32.33 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | !!!! |
| 22:32.34 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 22:32.35 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:32.37 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!!! |
| 22:32.39 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!! |
| 22:32.39 | elvirolo | fucking leninist |
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| 22:32.40 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!! |
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| 22:32.42 | znx | !ops er hello ? |
| 22:32.42 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i fucked youre mom!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:32.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: er hello |
| 22:32.49 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | YAAAA!!COMYNYAKA! |
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| 22:32.53 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | KOMMYHuCT! |
| 22:32.54 | antgel | dondelelcaro was here a minute or two ago |
| 22:32.56 | cheal | yay! debhelper is getting breaked! |
| 22:32.57 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | YA YA |
| 22:33.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 399] by debhelper |
| 22:33.02 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | GREAT MOTHER RUSSIA |
| 22:33.02 | xhypno | Must be a ubuntu user! |
| 22:33.03 | PaPyRene10 | mith: why? |
| 22:33.03 | znx | lilo: sorry to prod you.. can you help? |
| 22:33.13 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUCK YOUR MOM! |
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| 22:33.14 | husein | xhypno; and all think i have done yet, coudl be dangerorus redoing then?. I dont know what iu have doing for this days.... |
| 22:33.14 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | )) |
| 22:33.17 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | hey |
| 22:33.21 | green_earz | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: yes just like lenin : a spy |
| 22:33.26 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | YA YA |
| 22:33.28 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | FUCK YOUR MOM! |
| 22:33.30 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ))) |
| 22:33.33 | elvirolo | lenin was a murderer |
| 22:33.34 | cheal | xhypno: I smell an ubuntu-windows dual boot |
| 22:33.38 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | zerr gut |
| 22:33.39 | antgel | he just fucked my irssi, luckily i had the presence of mind to ^l |
| 22:33.39 | xhypno | no, about an hour |
| 22:33.41 | husein | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: go an fuck your fucked sister |
| 22:33.52 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i have no SISTER |
| 22:33.52 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:33.53 | antgel | husein: that's the spirit |
| 22:33.58 | PaPyRene10 | is this the debian channel? |
| 22:33.58 | zulu42 | hi there... I use scponly package and I'm pretty happy with it, but was wondering if there was a way to efficiently control who is connected to my ssh server, what is uploaded and downloaded for all my users? |
| 22:34.00 | resiak | Woah |
| 22:34.01 | nvz | husein: you can't fight stupidity with stupidity |
| 22:34.07 | xhypno | cheal: actually, I would think more of widows only, with konoppix live cd |
| 22:34.09 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | nvz |
| 22:34.11 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | fuck u |
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| 22:34.13 | sward | Fun.. |
| 22:34.14 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | and ure moma |
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| 22:34.18 | resiak | It's not even a bot... |
| 22:34.21 | husein | xhypno; and all think i have done yet, coudl be dangerorus redoing then?. I dont know what iu have doing for this days.... |
| 22:34.23 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | yep |
| 22:34.23 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:34.25 | cheal | xhypno: yeah, we're getting close |
| 22:34.28 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | not a bot,wright |
| 22:34.28 | nvz | no its an idiot |
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| 22:34.34 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | yep |
| 22:34.35 | xhypno | cheal: lol |
| 22:34.36 | nvz | like a bot but squishier |
| 22:34.37 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | RUSSIAN IDIOT |
| 22:34.39 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:34.53 | sward | Hmmm, squishy |
| 22:34.55 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | RUSSIAN BAHbKA DURAK |
| 22:34.59 | gnube | thank god |
| 22:35.01 | antgel | spasiba |
| 22:35.07 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | idi nahui |
| 22:35.08 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
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| 22:35.13 | antgel | nyet |
| 22:35.16 | antgel | da |
| 22:35.17 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | mudak) |
| 22:35.25 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | eboflan |
| 22:35.26 | antgel | ya jopa |
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| 22:35.31 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | da ti zhopa |
| 22:35.33 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
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| 22:35.36 | husein | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: the best socialims is that one who let one do what i realldy want without disturb others. You read me? |
| 22:35.36 | antgel | nyet, ya popa |
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| 22:35.40 | nvz | oh well I am calling radio shack see if they can rob me bli- I mean help me with this problem |
| 22:35.42 | PaPyRene10 | xhypno: I think more a channel for little kids ;-) |
| 22:35.43 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | nyet ti mudak |
| 22:35.43 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
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| 22:35.57 | elvirolo | lenin was _no way_ a communist anyway |
| 22:36.05 | antgel | this is quite funny. he understands my 3 words of russian. |
| 22:36.08 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | im KOMYNYAKA |
| 22:36.09 | xhypno | PaPyRene10: Might be |
| 22:36.13 | antgel | ti nye sabaka |
| 22:36.18 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | hey man |
| 22:36.21 | xhypno | anyone with ops rights to ban |
| 22:36.22 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | are u an idiot? |
| 22:36.22 | antgel | ja catchka |
| 22:36.24 | elvirolo | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: no u're not |
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| 22:36.37 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | do u anderstand what are u talkin about? |
| 22:36.44 | znx | xhypno: i think they are all sleeping .. or something equally as stimulating |
| 22:36.48 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ure lOL |
| 22:36.49 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:36.50 | antgel | yes i said you are not a dog, and i am a cat |
| 22:36.52 | xhypno | znx: lol |
| 22:36.57 | antgel | i've tamed the teoll |
| 22:36.59 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | no |
| 22:37.01 | antgel | troll even |
| 22:37.02 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | cat is KOSHKA |
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| 22:37.06 | znx | antgel++ :0 |
| 22:37.06 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
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| 22:37.13 | antgel | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: shit what did i say? |
| 22:37.15 | paulswm | What a wanker, are there no ops? |
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| 22:37.19 | elvirolo | Ðнархизм |
| 22:37.21 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | i dont know) |
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| 22:37.31 | znx | !ops trooooool LENIN_BOLSHEVIK |
| 22:37.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: trooooool LENIN_BOLSHEVIK |
| 22:37.35 | husein | xhypno: E: El paquete tk8.2 no tiene candidato para su instalación |
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| 22:37.41 | antgel | ya tzibia loobloo |
| 22:37.45 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | lol |
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| 22:38.08 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | listen to Adreano Chellentano, even he speaks better than u in russian $) |
| 22:38.11 | antgel | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: i can read russian alphabet as well, but i don't know what i'm saying |
| 22:38.18 | znx | ah.. peace |
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| 22:38.25 | elvirolo | me too lol |
| 22:38.31 | antgel | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: so, what's your debian question? |
| 22:38.37 | husein | xhypno: this means there is not package so |
| 22:38.43 | zulu42 | hi there... I use scponly package and I'm pretty happy with it, but was wondering if there was a way to efficiently control who is connected to my ssh server, what is uploaded and downloaded for all my users? |
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| 22:38.44 | tango_ | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK, you can't spell italian, though |
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| 22:38.57 | xhypno | husein: go to ieee80211.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net and read the install instructions, they are st8 fwd |
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| 22:39.02 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | u cant speak chineese |
| 22:39.03 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:39.09 | Frawg | anyone got any ideas how i can get apt to ignore this trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/Xsession', which is also in package xorg-common |
| 22:39.10 | Frawg | ? |
| 22:39.17 | gnube | zulu42, look in auth.log to see who is connecting |
| 22:39.17 | antgel | ya nye moya popa |
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| 22:39.23 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | lol |
| 22:39.26 | Quinn_Storm | hey is it possible to use acpi to do things like turn the fan on & off? it clearly reports the -status- of the fan... |
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| 22:39.32 | husein | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: may be you would be more confortable in #microsoft as you are a great bolshevik |
| 22:39.36 | paulswm | My hovercraft is full of eels |
| 22:39.36 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | your not your ass |
| 22:39.49 | antgel | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: sorry, ti nye moya jopa? |
| 22:39.51 | cheal | hey paulswm |
| 22:39.56 | znx | paulswm: hey.. mine too! |
| 22:39.58 | paulswm | Hi cheal :) |
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| 22:40.03 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | say something....smart...if you can offcourse |
| 22:40.09 | zulu42 | gnube, no tool like for ftp? more "usable" than log watching? for instance trigger an event when someone is loggin? |
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| 22:40.18 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | alindeman ìîé òåëåôîí äûøèò! è íåõóé çâîíèòü! ìîé òåëåôîí áåñïîêîèòü... |
| 22:40.26 | elvirolo | Ðнархизм |
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| 22:40.33 | gnube | Not that I know of, but I am sure there is some thing like that out there. |
| 22:40.34 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | my phone is breathing!!!!aaaa |
| 22:40.35 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:40.38 | antgel | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: you are cool but i have to ignore you now. nastarovya. |
| 22:40.44 | tombs | hi ppl |
| 22:40.48 | gnube | zulu42, You should make sure that you do not allow root logins. |
| 22:40.55 | paulswm | znx: :) |
| 22:40.56 | xhypno | antgel: I agree |
| 22:40.56 | waltman | i'm trying to install a 2.6.12 kernel deb as shown in http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/08/msg01080.html. however, another bug my installation has caused my network connection to not be set up, so i don't have any way to get the deb onto the target box. is it possible to run the network setup manually? |
| 22:40.57 | gnube | zulu42, That is a big issue. |
| 22:41.03 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | idi na bazar suka |
| 22:41.03 | zulu42 | gnube, yes normally it's done.. |
| 22:41.04 | kspath | pahshlee vohn LENIN |
| 22:41.06 | elvirolo | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK: you are not cool, as you are a bloody leninist, but i shall ignore you as well |
| 22:41.31 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | pashel VON,idiot) |
| 22:41.39 | gnube | zulu42, Do you mean you have already done that? |
| 22:41.44 | zulu42 | yes |
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| 22:42.00 | zulu42 | why you already got root here? |
| 22:42.01 | zulu42 | :) |
| 22:42.02 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG! |
| 22:42.03 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ) |
| 22:42.10 | nvz | hmm I think I am going to have to go to radio shack and find what I want/need cause the prices they qouted me over the phone werent to my liking.. I bet I can find something cheaper there to crossover two of my cables |
| 22:42.12 | xhypno | That's better |
| 22:42.15 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | I sell log) |
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| 22:42.35 | resiak | waltman: vim /etc/network/interfaces ! |
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| 22:42.45 | elvirolo | so |
| 22:42.50 | gnube | zulu42, I actually have written a script that finds out how many logins you have had. |
| 22:42.57 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG! |
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| 22:42.57 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG! |
| 22:42.58 | *** kick/#debian [LENIN_BOLSHEVIK!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
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| 22:43.00 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG! |
| 22:43.02 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | ! |
| 22:43.04 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!! |
| 22:43.06 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!!! |
| 22:43.08 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!!!! |
| 22:43.10 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!!!!! |
| 22:43.11 | gnube | zulu42, But it runs on the command line and does not have a GUI interface. |
| 22:43.11 | goldnlink | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK, you feal ok? |
| 22:43.12 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!!!!!! |
| 22:43.14 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!!!!!!! |
| 22:43.16 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!!!!!!!! |
| 22:43.16 | goldnlink | feel |
| 22:43.18 | LENIN_BOLSHEVIK | LOG LOG LOG!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:43.20 | znx | heheh the bot got him then :) |
| 22:43.23 | nvz | yes you are being logged |
| 22:43.25 | znx | woot! |
| 22:43.31 | nvz | kudos to staffers |
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| 22:43.38 | znx | hell yeah :) |
| 22:43.40 | cheal | damnit |
| 22:43.41 | xhypno | Thank you debhelper |
| 22:43.47 | gnube | znx, With all do respect, I think it is spelled w00t |
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| 22:43.56 | gnube | :^) |
| 22:44.01 | znx | gnube: i stand c0rrected ;) |
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| 22:44.16 | elvirolo | i posted the relevant info in #flood |
| 22:44.25 | nvz | wtf does debhelper have to do with it.. a bot cant k-line |
| 22:44.30 | xhypno | elvirolo: thank you |
| 22:44.35 | zulu42 | gnube, I was lookin for same kind of tool shipped with proftp like ftpwho and the like... |
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| 22:44.50 | abrotman | wtf is +6 ? |
| 22:44.56 | antgel | sorry for talking to him but i knew that my 10 words of russian would throw him |
| 22:44.57 | gnube | zulu42, I do not use ftp. Not ever. Too many security holes. |
| 22:45.03 | elvirolo | xhypno: er sry, i was talking about my own prob :-D |
| 22:45.10 | znx | nvz: it flood kicked him :) |
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| 22:45.14 | xhypno | elvirolo: oh, cool |
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| 22:45.32 | gnube | zulu42, Sorry, I do not know about the tools you were talking about. |
| 22:45.36 | zulu42 | gnube, why do you think I use scponly? :) |
| 22:45.37 | elvirolo | so ideas anyone? |
| 22:45.42 | gnube | smarrt |
| 22:45.43 | nvz | I wonder how well it would work if I got a set of screw terminals or something to make these cables crossovers.. just cut them in half and screwed them to terminals instead of taping them |
| 22:45.44 | zulu42 | ok gnube thx for support |
| 22:45.46 | kspath | I said pahshlee vohn which is phonetic for get the heck out in an extremely rude way |
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| 22:46.01 | gnube | zulu42, No problem and best of luck. |
| 22:46.06 | zulu42 | ;) |
| 22:46.15 | gnube | zulu42, If you want my script you know where to find me. |
| 22:46.22 | zulu42 | ok thx... |
| 22:46.27 | yel | antgel, i solved it it was because they had /bin/false as shell thats why i could not use su to username |
| 22:46.37 | gnube | has anyone secured popa3d? |
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| 22:46.51 | antgel | yel: second person who's done that in 2 days! |
| 22:46.57 | PaPyRene10 | Amazing! Such a simple question: copy a file from a linux to a windows pc over the LAN, but nobody knows a simple answer... |
| 22:46.59 | gnube | Do pop servers speak / use SSL or TLS |
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| 22:47.08 | antgel | !tell PaPyRene10 about samba |
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| 22:47.10 | stouset | PaPyRene10: man smbclient |
| 22:47.10 | Thanatermesis | In my new installation of debian Im not have the DMA's activated by default... this is normal ? what autodetects automatically this ? |
| 22:47.12 | znx | PaPyRene10: samba ? |
| 22:47.15 | antgel | PaPyRene10: ^^ for the second time |
| 22:47.21 | nvz | they want $10 for a crossover cable, $8 for a RJ45 quick connect, and $5 for the crimp ons and over $30 for the crimper.. so any way I look at it I am spending $20 or more doing it the right way to get two crossovers and for that price I could buy a hub and not need them |
| 22:47.33 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: samba |
| 22:47.33 | yel | antgel, can you help me with this : i have one box with apache as a front server and tomcat pluged into it as a servlet container using mod_jk and i want to know if its possible that a user a client connect to it using http and then i swich to https ?? or shall i have tow differnt ip's ?? |
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| 22:47.54 | xhypno | compusa, 3 foot cross over 5.99 |
| 22:48.08 | gnube | yel, You can use one server for http and https |
| 22:48.12 | gnube | You do not need two |
| 22:48.19 | nvz | yeah well compusa is clear out in robinson and they would be closed by the time I could get there on foot |
| 22:48.19 | gnube | what you need is a certificate. |
| 22:48.24 | antgel | yel: it's not the done thing to ask an individual for help. there are enough people here that someone else may know the answer. |
| 22:48.26 | kspath | I ended up just buying a few crossovers and an extra switch so I would not have to deal with that issue again for a while |
| 22:48.31 | antgel | yel: see? :) |
| 22:48.35 | gnube | antgel, well done. |
| 22:48.41 | gnube | Good policy that. |
| 22:48.43 | xhypno | yel: use javascript or http headers to change location to https |
| 22:48.50 | PaPyRene10 | antgel: stouset: znx: abrotman: samba is not a simple answer... |
| 22:48.55 | xhypno | yel: you need only one ip |
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| 22:49.00 | nvz | technically its in imperial I guess they just call it robinson for some reason |
| 22:49.02 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: ftp |
| 22:49.06 | gnube | PaPyRene10, what are you trying to do? |
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| 22:49.20 | abrotman | copy a file from windows to linux or vice versa .. eithe rway .. samba or ftp |
| 22:49.23 | yel | okay thanks you guys that was good news for me |
| 22:49.26 | nvz | I wish I would have been smart enough to realize I needed crossovers before I started setting up this bridge |
| 22:49.27 | stouset | PaPyRene10: Sure it is. apt-get install smbclient. |
| 22:49.28 | abrotman | !smbclient |
| 22:49.30 | petemc | gnube: use samba without learning anything about it |
| 22:49.30 | abrotman | bah |
| 22:49.36 | antgel | PaPyRene10: it's very simple if you read the docs. infact, you don't need to run samba. you can copy it with smbclient. |
| 22:49.42 | nvz | I didnt realize it until I had it all setup and it didnt work |
| 22:49.44 | gnube | petemc, hah ha! |
| 22:49.45 | gnube | so true |
| 22:49.50 | gnube | so true . . . |
| 22:49.55 | gnube | but I been there too. |
| 22:50.01 | xhypno | brb |
| 22:50.02 | PaPyRene10 | gnube: I am trying the basics of computing: copying a file but... from a linux to a windows system, and... on an simple way... |
| 22:50.04 | nvz | now its late and someone else has the car |
| 22:50.10 | chewwy_564 | nvz: do you happen to have a RJ-45 coupler? I've made crossovers out of those before |
| 22:50.24 | nvz | chewwy_564: I have at least one.. I would need to find another though |
| 22:50.34 | gnube | PaPyRene10, The is something called ftp (file transfer protocol) it might be what you want. |
| 22:50.34 | nvz | chewwy_564: I dont know how I could make that into a crossover |
| 22:50.49 | nvz | chewwy_564: any easier than splicing a cable |
| 22:50.53 | antgel | PaPyRene10: right and three people said use smbclient. now go and do it and come back if you get stuck. |
| 22:51.01 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: ftp is a more simpler answer, but to difficult to set up fast when having trouble... |
| 22:51.02 | kspath | isnt it just connecting transmit to recv and recv to transmit? |
| 22:51.15 | gnube | You use ftp to transfer files from your computer to the other computer, it doesn't matter what the operating system is. |
| 22:51.19 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: smbclient is fairly easy .. you setup a share on your windows box .. and then use smbclient to connect the share |
| 22:51.23 | chewwy_564 | nvz: on one side 1 & 2 , you take pins and switch them with 3 & 6 |
| 22:51.24 | gnube | You use ftp to transfer files from your computer to the other computer, it doesn't matter what the operating system is. |
| 22:51.28 | antgel | someone was complaining about kontact and kmail and $HOME/Mail earlier. |
| 22:51.33 | antgel | !bugs 315392 |
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| 22:51.39 | dpkg | #315392:G[kmail] kmail tries to access $HOME/Mail literally, and so fails to start |
| 22:51.40 | petemc | PaPyRene10: open konqueror, in the address bar put smb://domain\user:password@ipaddress |
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| 22:51.42 | nvz | chewwy_564: I guess they will just pull out eh? |
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| 22:52.34 | chewwy_564 | nvz: easier than splicing in my opinion, yes, just split it in half, and on one side, you can take small flat-head and pry out the plastic piece holding the pins.. Gently unbend 1,2,3&6 and slide them out |
| 22:52.37 | nvz | chewwy_564: I got a whole box full of junk this place thew out.. had some couplers for RJ11 and RJ45 as well as a bunch of those little jacks you plug into pcmcia modem/network cards |
| 22:52.59 | chewwy_564 | nvz: "dongles" hehe |
| 22:53.03 | nvz | chewwy_564: I will see if I have two couplers if so I may just do that.. though I would then need 4 cables for two crossovers |
| 22:53.11 | PaPyRene10 | antgel: I am here at home, my son has an xp pc and I have running samba... cannot get it at work and have NOW not the time to reaad all the docs... |
| 22:53.16 | nvz | chewwy_564: they are called dongles? |
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| 22:53.52 | gnube | PaPyRene10, So you want to use Samba to transfer the files? |
| 22:53.58 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: SMBCLIENT |
| 22:53.58 | chewwy_564 | nvz: but you can always switch them out with crossover cables later on. then you got a 2-port mini-hub you can stick in your pocket |
| 22:54.00 | gnube | PaPyRene10, Why not use another method? |
| 22:54.01 | antgel | PaPyRene10: our time is a scarce resource too. petemc's advice was good if it works under knoppix |
| 22:54.03 | nvz | hell yeah I got two RJ45 couplers! :) |
| 22:54.16 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: it is the windows box that is broekn... how could I set up a share there... I am running the linux live cd on it... |
| 22:54.28 | nvz | chewwy_564: hopefully I got 4 spare cables now :P |
| 22:54.34 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: so your windows box isn't really a windows box ? |
| 22:54.36 | antgel | PaPyRene10: WHAT petemc SAID ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:55.01 | PaPyRene10 | petemc: that is interesting... |
| 22:55.07 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: start again .. be descriptive |
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| 22:55.36 | gnube | PaPyRene10, You can also use Nautilus as a SMB browser. |
| 22:55.40 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: what OS is each machine running etc ... |
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| 22:55.49 | petemc | knoppix uses kde |
| 22:55.54 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrr |
| 22:56.03 | grendal_prime | there is just no information on this.. |
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| 22:56.07 | PaPyRene10 | gnube: I want an easy way to copy the files from the linux pc toe the windows pc |
| 22:56.12 | ecobit | does anyone know is there a channel for automake/autoconf, etc.? |
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| 22:56.13 | grendal_prime | its making me nuts...it cant be this difficult |
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| 22:56.15 | goldnlink | knoppix is not to be used as a noral distribution but a tool |
| 22:56.15 | chewwy_564 | nvz: just msg me if u cant figure it out. it doesn't take much force to release the pni-holding plastic thing |
| 22:56.36 | chewwy_564 | nvz: *pin not pni |
| 22:56.39 | gnube | PaPyRene10, And they are two different machines, not a knoppix CD on your windoes machine? |
| 22:56.52 | nvz | chewwy_564: I am still trying to figure out how to separate it.. I got it open but it wont pull apart enough to get inside I need to somehow release the jack from the casing |
| 22:56.59 | loren | Does anyone know of a application that will emulate windows from the hard drive? Getting a Windows Image would be no problem, But i want it to emulate windows from the harddrive if possible |
| 22:57.06 | beardy | Good evening/night/morning/afternoon |
| 22:57.08 | PaPyRene10 | gnube: that sounds also very interesting... |
| 22:57.14 | nvz | chewwy_564: I got an RJ11 one here I can break open and figure out how they work |
| 22:57.18 | elvirolo | any ideas about why doesn't lsusb output anything ? the relevant stuff from dmesg is in #flood |
| 22:57.22 | gnube | Sorry ecobit, I do not know. |
| 22:57.23 | beardy | loren: Have a look at wine. |
| 22:57.33 | petemc | loren: vmware can if you set up a different hardwar profile within windows, its not straighforward |
| 22:57.36 | chewwy_564 | nvz: seel the small slot on the connector side? slide a screwdriver in there |
| 22:57.39 | nvz | chewwy_564: the rj11 one opened without trouble it has plenty of wire inside.. the rj45 ones are shorter cable |
| 22:57.50 | phil-debian | does anyone know how to install dc++ in debian easily? dcgui and valknut are not working out for me |
| 22:57.53 | abrotman | ecobit: #gnu might be of some help |
| 22:57.55 | nvz | chewwy_564: yeah I got a little thumb driver here I was trying that.. its not working :P |
| 22:57.57 | loren | petemc: thanks, i'll look into VMWare a bit more, I'm used to emulating linux with it, thanks |
| 22:58.16 | gnube | ecobit, Yeah, #GNU is probably a good bet. |
| 22:58.22 | PaPyRene10 | Look guys (girls?) I want a simple solution so I can show my boss that linux works!! not a diffcult setup and reading a lot of documents, I am not maid for that ;-) I do that at home...L |
| 22:58.24 | ecobit | gnube, abrotman: thanks |
| 22:58.27 | chewwy_564 | nvz: it may be easier to go from the inside.. pry the plastic holder up |
| 22:58.29 | elvirolo | ideas anyone ? |
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| 22:58.38 | loren | beardy: Wine, yeah I've watched their project for a long time, but it's a shame it's "still in beta", I wish it could emulate natively to run games though, too bad :( |
| 22:58.42 | abrotman | elvirolo: you have to tell us *before* you paste |
| 22:58.54 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: My company's portable Compaq Armada Windows NT4.0, with important data on the D drive, crashed (ntoskrnl.exe damaged). I told my boss "no problem to save the data with my Knoppix live cd!". Indeed, I did a linux CD-boot, mounted /dev/hda5, saw all the lost data, could ping the LAN and surfed the internet! "Fantastic, get the data!" said my boss. But both disappointed in linux: I couldn't!! What did I miss? |
| 22:58.57 | znx | PaPyRene10: samba is the still cure.. |
| 22:58.59 | elvirolo | abrotman: sorry, i'll paste it again |
| 22:58.59 | beardy | By definition vmware doesn't emulate anything, does it? It simulates an x86 machine, or several. |
| 22:59.19 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: ok .. and the other machine is? |
| 22:59.22 | loren | beardy: not really i dont think so, it directly connects to the hardware, but the principles of use are the same |
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| 22:59.32 | abrotman | !beer weasel |
| 23:00.03 | gnube | PaPyRene10, SO you want to recover data, corrupt data, with a knoppix CD? |
| 23:00.14 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: what kind of system are you trying to copy the data to? |
| 23:00.15 | beardy | loren: There is some commercial variant of wine which has some DirextX support to be able to run games better. |
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| 23:00.29 | abrotman | elvirolo: that's from lsusb ? |
| 23:00.36 | ecobit | PayPyRe (nice aggravatingly long nick there) what do you mean by "you couldn't" get the data? |
| 23:00.48 | elvirolo | abrotman: no, dmesg, there's _no_ output from lsusb |
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| 23:01.09 | abrotman | elvirolo: maybe your system is ehci ? |
| 23:01.12 | abrotman | how old is it ? |
| 23:01.13 | gnube | Yeah, for real. What's up with the long nick? n00b was taken? |
| 23:01.17 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: the other machine is a simple win NT4.0 workstation on the LAN |
| 23:01.18 | loren | beardy: Cedega, i was looking into it, however $10/mo with no guarentee or trial is very unappealing, thanks for helping brainstorm though, petemc suggested that VMware can be configured to do what i need i believe |
| 23:01.24 | elvirolo | abrotman: you mean the pc ? |
| 23:01.27 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: now we're getting somewhere :) |
| 23:01.28 | abrotman | elvirolo: yes |
| 23:01.48 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: on the NT4 workstation .. create a new folder in C:\ .. share it ... |
| 23:01.59 | znx | mount it in linux.. with smbmount |
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| 23:02.09 | elvirolo | abrotman: i'm not sure (it's not mine and i'm using it over vnc) but i suppose it's quite old ... 8 years or so |
| 23:02.15 | PaPyRene10 | gnube: the data is on the D, not corrupt; the ntkernel.exe on the c is corrupt (read higher) |
| 23:02.16 | nvz | chewwy_564: I am going to have to look up a crossover diagram or something to aide in this now that I got one apart |
| 23:02.17 | ecobit | paypyrene: your biggest problem is having nt on your network. install linux and you will solve many problems. you could always boot the other NT system with linux too, then mount its drive, and rsync the data over |
| 23:02.21 | abrotman | elvirolo: it might be ehci instead of ohci |
| 23:02.23 | chewwy_564 | Sid users: I did apt-get dist-upgrade to sid from sarge. Some of my packages weren't in the sarge repositiry (ex. jed) so I added back the sarge entries into sources.list (left the sid ones and did a pin priority on sid) -- is this the way most Sid users configure apt? |
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| 23:02.41 | elvirolo | abrotman: i see, so i have to load another kernel module ? |
| 23:02.42 | abrotman | elvirolo: also .. which versino of debian ? |
| 23:02.51 | chewwy_564 | nvz: pin 1 goes to pin 3. Pin 2 goes to pin 6 (and vice-versa |
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| 23:03.12 | abrotman | nvz: google has good lines |
| 23:03.14 | abrotman | links too |
| 23:03.19 | elvirolo | abrotman: i'm afraid i use ubntu hoary ... i'm sorry to ask my question here, but guys at #ubuntu haven't been helpful, and the same on the forums |
| 23:03.22 | nvz | chewwy_564: yeah put I dont know which pins are which they dont got numbers :P |
| 23:03.32 | beardy | loren: Yeah that deal doesn't sound appealing. Hope it works out for you with vmware then. |
| 23:03.42 | abrotman | elvirolo: all i can think of is ehci |
| 23:03.50 | dondelelcaro | chewwy_564: no, most sid users don't bother to use pinning, and instead only install exactly the packages that are ready to install using aptitude or apt-get instlal |
| 23:04.10 | gnube | Why do debian people hate Ubuntu? |
| 23:04.25 | nvz | gnube: who hates ubuntu? |
| 23:04.32 | thingfish | because tons of ubuntu users come in here asking for help. |
| 23:04.33 | dondelelcaro | gnube: uh, we don't? We just don't support it or talk about it here. |
| 23:04.38 | PaPyRene10 | ecobit: I couldn't copy the data from the windows NT, loaded with the linux life cd, onto a win NT workstation over the LAN |
| 23:04.47 | abrotman | nvz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_cable |
| 23:04.51 | gnube | Oh ok, |
| 23:04.52 | atom-z | gnube, dont think they do, just they dont like it when people ask questions about it not working in #debian, as they are different distributions |
| 23:04.54 | abrotman | nvz: seems to explain it well enough |
| 23:04.59 | petemc | PaPyRene10: when you say you couldnt, what exactly have you tried? |
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| 23:05.16 | travisat | what is a linux life cd? |
| 23:05.19 | beardy | gnube: The thing that some people get upset about is that ubuntu users often come here and ask ubuntu-specific questions, when there is a channel, #ubuntu for such questions. |
| 23:05.31 | gnube | Oh I see, sorry about that, I seem to remember some derisive comments somewhere. |
| 23:05.40 | elvirolo | thingfish: i'm sorry about that ... you don't *have* to help me, but the guys at #ubuntu aren't of any help at all |
| 23:05.58 | gnube | Gotcha! That is a bit rude to ask about Ubuntu in a #debian channel. |
| 23:05.59 | tarzeau | travisat: live, not life |
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| 23:06.10 | Skrotto | Hi. I'm trying to find the IRQ and Port of my IrDA unit. Any clue where I can get that information? |
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| 23:06.12 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: I have a shared folder on the windows NT machine; but I cannot see it because I donnu how to get samba at work (neither at home here)..; |
| 23:06.20 | gnube | Anyway, I am running Ubuntu and I have a problem with my fonts . . . |
| 23:06.24 | elvirolo | yes but you guys seem to know a lot more about debizn/ubuntu than them |
| 23:06.29 | travisat | tarzeau: oh, duh |
| 23:06.30 | tarzeau | !folder |
| 23:06.30 | dpkg | i guess folder is a directory damn it! or near My Computer and Network Neighborhood, or the things you put in a filing cabinet, or what ya do before ya doer |
| 23:06.39 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: is konqueror open ? |
| 23:06.42 | tarzeau | PaPyRene10: try smbmount ? |
| 23:06.44 | lndark | re-hi |
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| 23:07.05 | beardy | gnube: Please try to ask your question in #ubuntu then, Iäm sure they can help you. |
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| 23:07.24 | gnube | beardy, Sorry, I was trying to be funny. |
| 23:07.26 | petemc | Skrotto: dmesg, cat /proc/interrupts |
| 23:07.28 | lndark | i've a samba server as domain server, but i can't log a user on his host |
| 23:07.38 | gnube | I run debian. |
| 23:07.41 | beardy | gnube: oh |
| 23:07.50 | abrotman | lndark: #samba |
| 23:07.57 | Azar | ok what in the world is this : Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. |
| 23:07.58 | lndark | thx |
| 23:08.05 | gnube | a bit faceatious I'm afraid. |
| 23:08.08 | PaPyRene10 | ecobit: your are kidding; cann"t even do a simple copy form a linux machine to a windows; you really think my boss will beleive the problems will be resolved with installing linux everywhere? |
| 23:08.09 | abrotman | Azar: what does it sound like ? |
| 23:08.17 | Skrotto | petemc: This is a serial IrDA device.. would that mean that the IRQ = the IRQ of "serial" in /proc/interrupts? |
| 23:08.21 | beardy | Azar: Probably what it says. |
| 23:08.22 | Azar | abrotman, is Debian merging with freeBSD? |
| 23:08.25 | abrotman | <petemc> PaPyRene10: open konqueror, in the address bar put smb://domain\user:password@ipaddress |
| 23:08.33 | beardy | Azar: No. |
| 23:08.35 | abrotman | Azar: no .. it's another kernel . like the HURD .. is that ok with you? |
| 23:08.45 | Azar | oh thanks so it is another clone |
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| 23:09.00 | travisat | I believe bsd came before linux |
| 23:09.03 | elvirolo | abrotman: weird... ehci_hcd seems to be loaded |
| 23:09.04 | atom-z | PaPyRene10, what are you trying to do? |
| 23:09.16 | beardy | Azar: Not a clone, it just uses another kernel, instead of linux or hurd. |
| 23:09.18 | Azar | travisat, maybe but I deeply resent freeBSD |
| 23:09.21 | abrotman | elvirolo: then i'm at a loss .. is it possible .. there are no usb jacks ? |
| 23:09.28 | tarzeau | Azar: clone? |
| 23:09.30 | Azar | thanks for the clarification guys |
| 23:09.30 | gnube | Debian GNU/kFreeBSD - cool. |
| 23:09.33 | tarzeau | Azar: you mean #gnu-kbsd ? |
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| 23:09.36 | elvirolo | abrotman: usb jacks ? |
| 23:09.45 | loren | travisat: correct i believe, Linus didn't agree with some of the stuff in BSD so he started Linux i believe |
| 23:09.53 | abrotman | you know . .where you plugin usb devices |
| 23:09.54 | PaPyRene10 | petemc: I could only ping the windows machines on the LAN not 'see' them so I could not make a copy of the folder into a windows folder on another machine |
| 23:09.59 | Azar | tarzeau I was just reading the news and I wasnt' sure what is going on |
| 23:09.59 | petemc | Skrotto: perhaps, ive not much experience with such a device |
| 23:10.01 | abrotman | <petemc> PaPyRene10: open konqueror, in the address bar put smb://domain\user:password@ipaddress |
| 23:10.03 | tarzeau | loren: wait |
| 23:10.14 | tarzeau | loren: you know how old free/net/openbsd are? |
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| 23:10.26 | loren | tarzeau: not off the top of my head actually |
| 23:10.28 | tarzeau | loren: levenez has a great map of the unix like operating systems |
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| 23:10.36 | gnube | tarzeau, So what, that just means they are more stable. |
| 23:10.45 | tarzeau | loren: go look it up before you guess what linus liked or didn't |
| 23:10.51 | travisat | old doesn't mean stable |
| 23:10.51 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: konqueror is the first thing I open in my linux system |
| 23:10.55 | loren | tarzeau: haha alright, thanks |
| 23:10.57 | tarzeau | gnube: they, what? |
| 23:11.00 | travisat | but they are |
| 23:11.38 | davrieb | ls |
| 23:11.42 | travisat | sl |
| 23:11.50 | elvirolo | abrotman: what's a usb jackL |
| 23:11.51 | tarzeau | Azar: where did you read about it? |
| 23:11.51 | elvirolo | ? |
| 23:11.53 | davrieb | sorry |
| 23:12.03 | abrotman | elvirolo: where you plug in usb devices |
| 23:12.05 | Azar | tarzeau: http://www.us.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ |
| 23:12.14 | PaPyRene10 | tarzeau: is smbmount a simple solution to copy a file from a linux system to a windows system? If I have to read a lot of documents first my boss will not accept that! BTW this is now all in my free time... |
| 23:12.21 | tarzeau | Azar: that page is old, you've really read about it there or somewhere else? |
| 23:12.25 | Azar | I was offline for a couple of weeks and reading what new regarding Debian found that |
| 23:12.38 | elvirolo | abrotman: oh, yes there are some, and there's even a printer plugged in one of them |
| 23:12.41 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: you're saving the data .. and you're not allowed to read ? |
| 23:12.44 | gnube | travisat, Well there is a clear relationship between the time you have and the time you need to check bugs. |
| 23:12.46 | petemc | Azar: thats not new |
| 23:12.50 | abrotman | elvirolo: lsusb should work .. |
| 23:13.02 | elvirolo | abrotman: i'm afraid it doesn't :( |
| 23:13.07 | abrotman | elvirolo: does lsusb exist in ubuntu ? |
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| 23:13.11 | travisat | gnube: there is also a relationship between the number of active developers and the number of bugs |
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| 23:13.32 | elvirolo | abrotman: yes, but it produces no output |
| 23:13.34 | Azar | tarzeau I pick the @ Debian topic from this news list: http://www.osnews.com/topic.php |
| 23:13.38 | gnube | travisat, There are tons of great BSD developers |
| 23:13.42 | tarzeau | PaPyRene10: copying files from a linux system from/to windows is always painful |
| 23:13.47 | gnube | travisat, Think Theo De Raadt |
| 23:13.48 | tarzeau | PaPyRene10: windows IS PAINFUL |
| 23:13.57 | elvirolo | abrotman: and it work here on _my_ system |
| 23:13.57 | nvz | this crossover diagram I printed out from google makes my eyes hurt hopefully I get it right |
| 23:14.18 | abrotman | elvirolo: i've never had a problem with lsusb working once the correct dirvers were loaded |
| 23:14.22 | gnube | travisat, Plus most of the busiest web sites in the world run BSD, as does Apple. |
| 23:14.38 | gnube | In fact, I am running a BSD machine right now! |
| 23:14.45 | tarzeau | gnube: which BSD? |
| 23:14.47 | elvirolo | abrotman: well strange :( , usb used to work under windows |
| 23:14.47 | gnube | and it feels great. |
| 23:14.51 | gnube | Darwin. |
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| 23:14.55 | tarzeau | gnube: Apple doesn't run a BSD |
| 23:14.58 | gnube | Linus develops on it as well. |
| 23:14.59 | elvirolo | abrotman: thanks for your help anyway :) |
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| 23:15.04 | travisat | gnube: I know that and for the most part I find bsd and mach to be more stable than linux. |
| 23:15.05 | thingfish | are we really interested in BSD here in #debian? |
| 23:15.07 | abrotman | elvirolo: it could be a bug in the ubuntu kernel ... |
| 23:15.07 | Azar | hey I do not want to look harsh, but BSD didnt even wanted to install on my box, so I stick with Debian forever |
| 23:15.08 | tarzeau | gnube: they run a micro kernel, just like OPENSTEP and NeXTSTEP run on |
| 23:15.19 | gnube | tarzeau, Oh yes it is. |
| 23:15.21 | PaPyRene10 | atom-z: My company's portable Compaq Armada Windows NT4.0, with important data on the D drive, crashed (ntoskrnl.exe damaged). I told my boss "no problem to save the data with my Knoppix live cd!". Indeed, I did a linux CD-boot, mounted /dev/hda5, saw all the lost data, could ping the LAN and surfed the internet! "Fantastic, get the data!" said my boss. But both disappointed in linux: I couldn't see the other windows machines on the LAN so I |
| 23:15.21 | PaPyRene10 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.23 | tarzeau | gnube: linux develops on powerpc hardware, not BSD |
| 23:15.27 | abrotman | thingfish: technically .. the bsd kernel is used in debian project ... |
| 23:15.28 | tarzeau | gnube: stop talking BULLSHIT |
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| 23:15.35 | elvirolo | abrotman: maybe ... but i've updated it, and there's still the same prob |
| 23:15.40 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: a bsd kernel... |
| 23:15.41 | thingfish | abrotman: details, details. |
| 23:15.50 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: yes .. a bsd .. you're right |
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| 23:15.53 | gnube | tarzeau, Most of the user land programs are from BSD, the kernel is mach from CMU |
| 23:15.55 | elvirolo | abrotman: i might fill in a bug report |
| 23:15.55 | nvz | the big problem with it is that the cables in the coupler I am crossing over 4 are all black and 4 are all yellow they are not properly color coded :P |
| 23:15.55 | tarzeau | Azar: debian also does bsd.. |
| 23:15.57 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: sorry but your explanation is very unclear... |
| 23:16.01 | dondelelcaro | (actually, there are a couple of different BSD kernels, but I think only the freeBSD one is currently viable) |
| 23:16.03 | tarzeau | gnube: yes, i know |
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| 23:16.11 | samuel_ | how do you ignore users in irc? i think i found a candidate |
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| 23:16.27 | Azar | tarzeau, I have noticed some references to BSD when I installed Debian, I assume it uses some stuff from it |
| 23:16.32 | dondelelcaro | samuel_: /ignore foouser; if you're using irssi: /ignore -channels #debian -replies foouser; will be useful |
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| 23:16.37 | elvirolo | samuel: /ignore nick |
| 23:16.37 | beardy | samuel: /ignore |
| 23:16.49 | dondelelcaro | samuel: /help ignore; for more details |
| 23:16.55 | samuel | dondelelcaro, thanks, i was joking... but thanks! |
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| 23:17.06 | loren | hey tarzeau: that chart is off the hook |
| 23:17.08 | beardy | samuel: And ig you are using irssi, /help ignore will give you some ways of how to use it |
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| 23:17.11 | keckstar | hello all |
| 23:17.15 | Thanatermesis | any way for look if the hard disk support or not DMA ? |
| 23:17.37 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: what ? |
| 23:17.45 | keckstar | hey guys how would i go about loading a module for my SATA controller before debian's installer looks for the hard drive?? |
| 23:17.50 | PaPyRene10 | tarzeau: enfin... someone says the true => <tarzeau> PaPyRene10: copying files from a linux system from/to windows is always painful |
| 23:17.53 | Azar | if #iptables discusses iptables where can I find #tcpwrapping? :) |
| 23:17.56 | loren | Q: Is there any risk of loosing data with Linux / Fat 32, or is there a file system format i can use that's decently cross platformed? |
| 23:17.59 | dondelelcaro | keckstar: drop to a console, and load the module. |
| 23:18.07 | keckstar | modprobe ? |
| 23:18.08 | dondelelcaro | loren: fat32 is fairly stable and well tested |
| 23:18.17 | dondelelcaro | keckstar: that's one way, yes. |
| 23:18.20 | petemc | loren: fat32 is solid |
| 23:18.20 | loren | dondelcaro: thanks |
| 23:18.29 | keckstar | thanks! |
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| 23:18.37 | loren | petemc: yeah, i know, but im trying to find something cross-platformed |
| 23:18.39 | dondelelcaro | (of course, it *is* still fat32 with all of the associated problems...) |
| 23:18.45 | loren | :) |
| 23:18.57 | petemc | loren: yeah, its about the most widely supported too |
| 23:19.12 | elvirolo | god they ARE useless on #ubuntu |
| 23:19.15 | Thanatermesis | any way for look if one machine support or not DMA ? |
| 23:19.15 | petemc | its not without its limitations |
| 23:19.26 | Frem | Hey, I've been trying to get wifi with ndiswrapper in Debian, but wlan0 does not seem to be a valid device. What do I need to do to enable it? |
| 23:19.26 | petemc | Thanatermesis: hdparm, check the faq |
| 23:19.27 | loren | petemc: do you by chance know the advantages to ReiserFS? I think i read somewhere you can get a windows driver to mount it |
| 23:19.36 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: what is the name of the machine with the share ? |
| 23:19.41 | PaPyRene10 | ok thanks everyboy; I will tell my boss to wait a couple of years more before replacing his windows systems ;-) |
| 23:19.44 | thingfish | elvirolo: too many newbies in #ubuntu maybe. |
| 23:19.49 | petemc | loren: ive never even considered it, im not into exotic filesystems |
| 23:19.55 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 23:19.59 | loren | petemc: exotic? |
| 23:20.05 | travisat | Frem: I suggest you don't use ndiswrapper if possible |
| 23:20.07 | thingfish | PaPyRene10: tell your boss he sucks. |
| 23:20.08 | elvirolo | thingfish: i suspect so too ... most question are rather noobish |
| 23:20.10 | loren | petemc: like Journaling? |
| 23:20.15 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: yeah .. good idea .. in the meantime .. kiss your data goodbye :) |
| 23:20.16 | petemc | PaPyRene10: or just until he gets some new staff.. |
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| 23:20.35 | m4thm4n | PaPyRene10 It's a win machine that crashed, no >:) ? |
| 23:20.46 | abrotman | smbclient -L <host> |
| 23:20.48 | abrotman | wee |
| 23:20.48 | thingfish | elvirolo: well, that's to be expected, since ubuntu seems to be particularly attractive to newbies. |
| 23:20.53 | petemc | loren: mo, i just use ext2, ext3 or fat, 'cept on the powerbook, of course |
| 23:21.01 | Frem | travisat: Like what? Prisim? I can't get that working either. Same deal. wlan0 is not a valid device. :-| |
| 23:21.22 | loren | petemc: ah, :) thanks for the input |
| 23:21.26 | travisat | Frem: what type of wifi card do you have, I mean prism, atheros, etc |
| 23:21.41 | thingfish | why, I don't know, since with the advent of debian-installer and sarge most of the newbie-unfriendliness has been removed. |
| 23:22.06 | Frem | travisat: prism. It's a hawking wireless 54g wifi card. |
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| 23:22.13 | thingfish | yeah I wonder that too |
| 23:22.13 | gnube | thingfish, not really. Try configuring exim4 with TLS - not for noobs. |
| 23:22.17 | s0undt3ch | hello ppl |
| 23:22.27 | PaPyRene10 | thingfish: I will tell him that too, maybe then he will migrate to linux ;-) => <thingfish> PaPyRene10: tell your boss he sucks. |
| 23:22.27 | thingfish | gnube: always with the details! |
| 23:22.33 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:22.38 | travisat | Frem: prism is pretty well supported I think |
| 23:22.45 | gnube | he he he |
| 23:22.46 | Frem | travisat: I've gotten wifi in ArchLinux before, but I had to enable wlan0 in a config file. prism didn't work in arch, either. |
| 23:23.00 | PaPyRene10 | elvirolo: bosses are noobs ;-) |
| 23:23.13 | thingfish | bosses are on some other fricking planet. |
| 23:23.14 | elvirolo | PaPyRene10: :-D |
| 23:23.16 | abrotman | !phb |
| 23:23.16 | dpkg | i guess phb is pointy-haired boss (from dilbert) |
| 23:23.22 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:23.27 | s0undt3ch | how do I rebuild the php4-mysql, it is linked to the old mysql libraries and I want it built with the mysql 4.1 new ones |
| 23:23.28 | gnube | hehehe |
| 23:23.33 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: thanks anyway for your help |
| 23:23.36 | metaperl | should I install lpr or lprng? |
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| 23:23.55 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: you really should try smbclient -L <hostwithshare> |
| 23:24.46 | Frem | travisat: I guess what I'm asking is, is there a config file I can edit to set up my network interaces. Also, how to I 'unset' ndiswrapper as the default driver for this card? |
| 23:24.52 | PaPyRene10 | bosses are normal people who pay me ;-) |
| 23:25.00 | PaPyRene10 | you are freeks here ;-) |
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| 23:25.14 | gnube | PaPyRene10, Don't go there! |
| 23:25.26 | thingfish | the "normal" part I object to, however, it is true that they has da mo-nay. |
| 23:25.27 | gnube | PaPyRene10, Don't do it! |
| 23:25.28 | petemc | Frem: rmmod ndiswrapper |
| 23:25.29 | PaPyRene10 | thingfish: and you are on the other planet |
| 23:25.35 | travisat | Frem: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:25.36 | tina | hi i just did a port scan on myself, and two services I don't recognize (eklogin, ekshell) were detected. These seem to have something to do with kerberos? I basically want to know if I need to leave those up, and if not how to disable them (edit /etc/services?) |
| 23:25.50 | thingfish | PaPyRene10: yet I try so hard to fit in. |
| 23:25.58 | gnube | heh ehe |
| 23:26.07 | gnube | tina, did you use nmap? |
| 23:26.31 | gnube | tina, try netstat -na to see if they are listening. |
| 23:26.33 | Frem | petemc: I can unload it, but it restarts every time I reboot. I think hotplug loads it. |
| 23:26.44 | tina | that's how i found them by using nmap! |
| 23:26.46 | tina | i'll try that |
| 23:26.53 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: sorry... I know but it still comes out of my throuth; for any simple task under linux one has to read the complete internet and ask for hours in channels to get ... no help... |
| 23:27.19 | thingfish | ok, I am starting to get the whiff of troll scent. |
| 23:27.23 | tina | i'm not sure how to tell |
| 23:27.25 | petemc | Frem: theres a waty to blacklist devices so hotplug does load modules for them |
| 23:27.25 | gnube | tina, Those look like kerberized applications. |
| 23:27.30 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: if you say so .. though .. it took me about 3 minutes to figure out smbclient .. but you do as you wish . .it's not my data |
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| 23:27.38 | abrotman | of course .. i can *read* |
| 23:27.42 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:27.48 | thingfish | good one |
| 23:27.50 | tina | i ran that command but i can't tell really from the output whether they are listening |
| 23:27.55 | gnube | tina, Well when you do the netstat -na you should see the word LISTEN |
| 23:27.59 | gnube | tina, do you? |
| 23:28.06 | Frem | petemc: I don't want to blacklist it... I just want to make it load a different module for the device. |
| 23:28.06 | petemc | tina: lsof -i :2105 |
| 23:28.06 | Azar | thanks guys, have a good night/day :) |
| 23:28.08 | tina | yes i see it liek 4 times |
| 23:28.13 | tina | LISTENING and CONNECTED |
| 23:28.23 | tina | oh also ESTABLISHED |
| 23:28.29 | abrotman | tina: fuser ? lsof ? |
| 23:28.34 | petemc | Frem: read up on hotplug then, im no expert on it |
| 23:28.34 | gnube | tina, Yeah, you will see it for all the ports that are listening on your machin. |
| 23:28.44 | tina | right |
| 23:28.48 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: nono I will really try it tomorrow, but I am pretty shure it will not work before reading a lot of stuff (BTW it is not my first time I set up linux systems) |
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| 23:28.49 | abrotman | fuser / lsof |
| 23:29.00 | tina | abrotman: i'm not sure what that means |
| 23:29.02 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: i've done it .. it's really not that hard .. |
| 23:29.09 | abrotman | tina: fuser -n tcp <portnumber> |
| 23:29.15 | tina | ok |
| 23:29.18 | meriad | hey i generated a SSL cert with a passphrase.. and now everytime apache2 reloads it asks for the password.. (a simple mistake).. anyhow can I remove the password from my signed key without borking shit? |
| 23:29.27 | abrotman | meriad: in the openssl faq |
| 23:29.43 | meriad | umm |
| 23:29.45 | Thanatermesis | any person have a machine WITHOUR support of DMA ? |
| 23:29.45 | meriad | on the site? |
| 23:29.48 | abrotman | meriad: yep |
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| 23:29.53 | meriad | abrotman; k |
| 23:30.08 | gnube | tina, I would not get rid of eklogin and ekshell just yet. |
| 23:30.16 | tina | ok |
| 23:30.22 | abrotman | meriad: and google is good with "ssl remove passphrase" http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_test_certificate.html |
| 23:30.31 | gnube | do this, which eklogin |
| 23:30.33 | tina | this is hurting my head a little ;p i think I'll let it be for now I guess I'm not ready to be a network security specialist D= |
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| 23:30.52 | gnube | tina, always smart though to see what is listening on your machine. |
| 23:30.53 | tina | doesn't find anything gnube |
| 23:31.02 | gnube | ok . . . |
| 23:31.05 | tina | (the which command) |
| 23:31.05 | meriad | abortman: ya, i got the link and its done, thanks alot =] |
| 23:31.13 | abrotman | meriad: from the FAQ http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#USER9 |
| 23:31.19 | meriad | ya i know =] |
| 23:31.21 | meriad | its really easy |
| 23:31.23 | meriad | i just forgot how to |
| 23:31.23 | meriad | =] |
| 23:31.26 | meriad | i knew it was accessable |
| 23:31.26 | abrotman | meriad: but the firsr URL is easier |
| 23:31.29 | tina | i think it's "kerberos encrypted rlogin" that's what's showing in my services file |
| 23:31.32 | abrotman | !tell Mariele-aWay about away |
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| 23:31.37 | meriad | abrotman: nah, the second faq is better.. |
| 23:31.37 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: so I am still asking me what I am doing wrong => here at my home my son has a winXP machine (a gamer) I a my a linux 'diehard', no windows on my pc's at home, my samba deamon runs now, but I cannot connect to my sons winXP pc, neither he cannot to my linux system... I know it will work sometimes... but I know also I have to read first the complete bullshit... |
| 23:31.42 | meriad | abrotman: more detailed =] |
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| 23:32.06 | petemc | yeah, all those docs are complete bullshit |
| 23:32.10 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: you have to define shares in samba on the linux box or use smbclient and define shares on the windows box |
| 23:32.13 | abrotman | meriad: ok |
| 23:32.15 | thingfish | that's funny; I can connect to my roommate's xp box with absolutely no effort at all. |
| 23:32.23 | abrotman | petemc: which docs? |
| 23:32.32 | meriad | abrotman: man dsa is also good =][ |
| 23:32.38 | abrotman | meriad: yes .. reading is good :) |
| 23:32.45 | abrotman | thingfish: you can *read* :) |
| 23:32.51 | Mariele | sorry |
| 23:32.51 | gnube | tina, Yes, that's it. |
| 23:32.56 | petemc | abrotman: presumably samba docs |
| 23:32.58 | thingfish | hehe abrotman |
| 23:33.03 | tina | i don't even see that installed though when I do dpkg -l |
| 23:33.06 | deepspace | PaPyRene10, do you get an error? An authentication error? A timeout? When you try to access the XP share, what happens? |
| 23:33.10 | gnube | I was trying to find out more about it from Google but it was slow going |
| 23:33.17 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: that is all ? => define shares in samba on the linux box or use smbclient and define shares on the windows box |
| 23:33.18 | abrotman | petemc: they're not horrible .. but i got help on some difficult stuff from jethro and #samba |
| 23:33.18 | meriad | abrotman, no i meant.. man dsa / remove works really well =] |
| 23:33.20 | meriad | abrotman; as well =] |
| 23:33.27 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: in generic terms ... yes |
| 23:33.29 | werw | PaPyRene10: you can try smb4k |
| 23:33.31 | thingfish | jethro is good. he likes bourbon. |
| 23:33.34 | gnube | tina, Yeah, I cannot find it with dpkg --list and apt-cache search eklogin |
| 23:33.37 | petemc | abrotman: i was being sarcastic in response to what PaPyRene10 said.. |
| 23:33.39 | abrotman | thingfish: heh |
| 23:33.44 | abrotman | petemc: it flopped |
| 23:34.10 | petemc | abrotman: for some people, maybe |
| 23:34.21 | abrotman | petemc: it's not funny if you're the only one who gets the joke :) |
| 23:34.29 | PaPyRene10 | ok, I will try that tomorrow |
| 23:34.42 | PaPyRene10 | I have logged this ;-) |
| 23:34.48 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: i'm scared |
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| 23:34.59 | PaPyRene10 | BIG BROTHER |
| 23:35.01 | petemc | abrotman: speaking for the whole chanel are we? :) |
| 23:35.06 | petemc | gah, channel |
| 23:35.17 | abrotman | petemc: did you see anyone else laugh? |
| 23:35.32 | gnube | um, ha? |
| 23:35.44 | abrotman | petemc: flops it?! |
| 23:35.57 | petemc | h0h0 |
| 23:36.06 | abrotman | hehe .. sorry |
| 23:36.09 | petemc | :) |
| 23:36.10 | abrotman | !beer petemc |
| 23:36.29 | petemc | the bot seems to have a good understandign of what beer peopel like |
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| 23:36.48 | gnube | Can one !beer oneself? |
| 23:36.51 | abrotman | petemc: he does ok with me |
| 23:36.52 | gnube | !beer gnube |
| 23:36.55 | petemc | tho it doesnt know how to spell guinness |
| 23:36.58 | abrotman | gnube: !beer me |
| 23:37.08 | gnube | eeck. La Maudite?! |
| 23:37.13 | abrotman | petemc: someone wrecked the factoid |
| 23:37.14 | abrotman | badly |
| 23:37.19 | gnube | At least it is a litre. |
| 23:37.19 | metaperl | any feedback on installing lpr versus lprng? |
| 23:37.21 | abrotman | !literal cmd: beer (.*?) |
| 23:37.21 | dpkg | CMD: beer (.*?) is ($1): <action> (pulls out a (fine|excellent|exquisite|tasty)|pours a (pint|litre|quart) of|deftly decants a fine) (Guiness|Spaten (Optimater|Pils)|Jever|La Maudite|Yuengling Lager|Dogfishhead 90min IPA|Piraat|Franzikanner Heffeweizen) for $1 |
| 23:37.36 | abrotman | i should replace it with the one from ravenbird |
| 23:37.40 | nvz | sure took a long time just to do one of these crossover couplers.. though I think the next one will go smoother now that I got one down |
| 23:38.02 | gnube | very cool. |
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| 23:38.27 | gnube | metaperl, what do you perceive to be the issue between the two? |
| 23:38.35 | PaPyRene10 | got the answer to my question in knoppix: |
| 23:38.41 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> on the knoppix pc, type: smb://<IP of the windows PC you want to to copy the data to> |
| 23:38.41 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> in the address part of konqueror |
| 23:38.41 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> like if the target windows pc is 192.168.0.1 |
| 23:38.41 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> type smb://192.168.0.1 |
| 23:38.41 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> for example |
| 23:38.41 | abrotman | yay.. fixed |
| 23:38.41 | *** kick/#debian [PaPyRene10!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 23:38.41 | gnube | In other words, what are you trying to do? |
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| 23:38.47 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> or |
| 23:38.48 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> type smb://192.168.0.1/c4 |
| 23:38.48 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: don't flood |
| 23:38.50 | abrotman | stop |
| 23:38.50 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> oops |
| 23:38.51 | abrotman | stop stop |
| 23:38.52 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> type smb://192.168.0.1/c$ |
| 23:38.53 | abrotman | stop |
| 23:38.54 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> to access the adminstrative share C$ |
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| 23:38.56 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> on the targt PC |
| 23:38.56 | jetscreamer | dumbass |
| 23:38.57 | antgel | cock off |
| 23:38.57 | abrotman | STOP |
| 23:38.58 | metaperl | just print ... lprng seems to e newer |
| 23:38.58 | PaPyRene10 | <^wolf^> then you need an administrator username and password |
| 23:39.02 | PaPyRene10 | aaaahooow sorry |
| 23:39.06 | keckstar | is there anyway for me to figure out which module (it's loaded) my SATA is using??? |
| 23:39.09 | PaPyRene10 | sorry, sorry |
| 23:39.09 | abrotman | !paste |
| 23:39.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 23:39.11 | jetscreamer | cups is easier imo |
| 23:39.12 | abrotman | !beer petemc |
| 23:39.21 | abrotman | ah .. all fixed up |
| 23:39.22 | gnube | metaperl, Have you looked into CUPS? |
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| 23:39.32 | m4thm4n | abrotman there's a lot of belgian beers missing in that thing ...pity ;-) |
| 23:39.35 | PaPyRene10 | it was a paste (with <CR> ;-) |
| 23:39.38 | gnube | abrotman, Me too! |
| 23:39.44 | jetscreamer | m4thm4n: add them |
| 23:39.45 | gnube | beer me! |
| 23:39.46 | abrotman | m4thm4n: there are .. but you can certainly make a !belgian $1 :) |
| 23:39.48 | metaperl | gnube: it appears to be already installed... |
| 23:39.51 | abrotman | !beer gnube |
| 23:39.57 | abrotman | !beer me |
| 23:39.59 | gnube | ahh, nice! |
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| 23:40.03 | abrotman | ok .. as long as it's not broken |
| 23:40.04 | antgel | why do we have dpkg, apt _and_ ravenbird? we should just have one bit superbot! |
| 23:40.05 | gnube | abrotman, Thanks a lot. |
| 23:40.10 | antgel | s/bit/big |
| 23:40.14 | abrotman | antgel: they occasionally break |
| 23:40.22 | nick23 | I did dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt - but doing dpkg --set-packages < packages.txt on another machine does not work? |
| 23:40.22 | metaperl | gnube: what do you pipe to print using cups? lpr doesnt exist as a command |
| 23:40.24 | jetscreamer | different databases for some also |
| 23:40.25 | abrotman | antgel: apt used to be severely broken |
| 23:40.26 | antgel | but their db's are all different? |
| 23:40.35 | gnube | metaperl, Are you trying to get a printer working? |
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| 23:40.38 | abrotman | antgel: so dpkg was born . then he started having issues . so we got ravenbird :) |
| 23:40.44 | metaperl | gnube: yes |
| 23:40.45 | abrotman | antgel: yep |
| 23:40.46 | jetscreamer | apt uses sqlite iirc |
| 23:40.59 | antgel | abrotman: it's a pig's dinner |
| 23:41.00 | jetscreamer | devbot |
| 23:41.01 | gnube | metaperl, Most likely you are going to have driver issues. |
| 23:41.05 | abrotman | antgel: Piggy ? |
| 23:41.12 | gnube | metaperl, Linux unfortunately is famous for them. |
| 23:41.12 | abrotman | Piggy: squeal! |
| 23:41.13 | metaperl | gnube: an HP officejet 7200 series... the hptoolbox did not have that in the XML config file so I cant print a test page... no no driver issues per hpinkjet.sf.net |
| 23:41.40 | gnube | metaperl, Did you try testing with a regular page. |
| 23:41.44 | gnube | ? |
| 23:41.51 | antgel | it's enough remembering what each factoid is called, let alone which bot they're on |
| 23:42.04 | gnube | HP is good about supplying drivers for linux. |
| 23:42.10 | gnube | Canon is less good. |
| 23:42.11 | abrotman | antgel: that's a good deal . dpkg is usually the most current |
| 23:42.19 | alekibango | hello, can please someone having more 1 cd drives (more is better) paste me (priv or #flood) contents of /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info ? (i need it for testing)... |
| 23:42.31 | alekibango | more than 1 :) |
| 23:42.53 | antgel | !spank my bot |
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| 23:43.02 | ma3x | how can I export this forever? LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/aMule/lib/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 23:43.03 | metaperl | gnube: I was looking for the lpr command to such a thing |
| 23:43.13 | abrotman | ma3x: in your profile |
| 23:43.13 | Frem | what version of X11 does sarge use? Xfree or X.org? |
| 23:43.28 | abrotman | xfree |
| 23:43.30 | antgel | ma3x: system-wide or per-user? |
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| 23:43.33 | abrotman | !info xserver-xfree86 sarge |
| 23:43.38 | gnube | metaperl, Do you not have /usr/bin/lpr ? |
| 23:43.40 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 (sarge), Packaged size: 5607 kB, Installed size: 15616 kB |
| 23:43.45 | ma3x | antgel, only for my user |
| 23:43.56 | gnube | metaperl, Do a 'which lpr' |
| 23:43.57 | antgel | ma3x: then what abrotman said. |
| 23:43.58 | abrotman | Frem: which means .. 4.4 mostly ... but 4.4 has that evil license |
| 23:44.00 | stumbles | antgel: there's a ~ in there ;) |
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| 23:44.06 | metaperl | gnube: I might in a second. I'm installing cupsys-client and cupsys |
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| 23:44.17 | antgel | stumbles: yeah but all the users might... DOH! |
| 23:44.21 | metaperl | gnube: ok, it's there now |
| 23:44.26 | jkern | metaperl, apt-cache show cupsys-bsd for example |
| 23:44.29 | loren | Q: Is it possible to use Windows Drivers for Linux? |
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| 23:44.36 | ma3x | abrotman, what file is the profile? |
| 23:44.36 | Guerin | !possible |
| 23:44.36 | dpkg | Anything's possible. Some things are more possible than others. You'll need to ask a more meaningful question if you want to find out how possible your planned course of action is. |
| 23:44.40 | abrotman | !profile |
| 23:44.40 | dpkg | If you modify /etc/profile, ie: add an export line or something, make sure you do '. /etc/profile' to reload the profile. Lost? 'man bash' :) |
| 23:44.41 | antgel | !tell loren about ndiswrapper |
| 23:44.44 | abrotman | bah |
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| 23:44.46 | abrotman | that's wrong |
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| 23:44.47 | metaperl | cupsys-bsd is only for network printing per the config page that came up when I installed it |
| 23:44.58 | abrotman | ma3x: $HOME/.bash_profile |
| 23:45.03 | abrotman | or .bashrc |
| 23:45.04 | abrotman | or whatever |
| 23:45.19 | loren | lol cool |
| 23:45.21 | ma3x | abrotman, .bashrc or .bash_profile ? |
| 23:45.31 | stumbles | ma3x: you'll want to add the keyword 'export' out the front |
| 23:45.34 | gnube | metaperl, Yeah cups is printing over IP |
| 23:45.34 | abrotman | ma3x: read them |
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| 23:45.41 | abrotman | ma3x: it "depends" |
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| 23:45.51 | antgel | first one to tell me the difference between /etc/profile and /etc/environment is the winner. go! |
| 23:46.02 | abrotman | antgel: the spelling! |
| 23:46.05 | abrotman | !win me |
| 23:46.06 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 23:46.17 | antgel | (with two entrants) |
| 23:46.33 | jkern | metaperl, I think cupsys-bsd provices lpr for cups |
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| 23:46.43 | abrotman | antgel: wins what? |
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| 23:46.49 | jkern | metaperl, This package provides the BSD commands for interacting with CUPS |
| 23:46.56 | antgel | abrotman: a kick up the arse? |
| 23:47.05 | abrotman | oh .. please ... let me enter the contest |
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| 23:47.27 | antgel | abrotman: no, you're disqualified for sarcasm ;) |
| 23:47.47 | antgel | respect my authoritah! |
| 23:47.51 | cheal | abrotman is never sarcastic |
| 23:48.03 | gnube | antgel, I thought sarcasm was a prerequisite |
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| 23:48.21 | gnube | But not faceatiousness. |
| 23:48.28 | antgel | only thing i can think of it that /etc/environment is used by all shells, csh as well as sh etc |
| 23:48.55 | gilber | hello how i can change ext3 to reiserfs? |
| 23:49.02 | abrotman | you can't just change |
| 23:49.32 | abrotman | antgel: you realize /etc/environment just has your locale info ? |
| 23:49.56 | antgel | abrotman: yes, but i think i've used it in the past to set system-wide environment variables. did i fuck up? |
| 23:50.02 | PaPyRene10 | everyone thanks for the help, specially abrotman, seeyou later, gonna sleep now and try the smb solution tomorrow at my work |
| 23:50.07 | abrotman | antgel: i'd say yes |
| 23:50.07 | ecobit | gilber: you mirror your filesystem somewhere else, change the orignal to reiserfs, then mirror back |
| 23:50.14 | abrotman | PaPyRene10: enjoy! |
| 23:50.14 | antgel | abrotman: fucking works though |
| 23:50.27 | abrotman | antgel: because it's probably sourced by /etc/profile :) |
| 23:50.29 | gnube | gilber, Yeah, what ecobit said. |
| 23:50.31 | PaPyRene10 | abrotman: I will ;-) |
| 23:50.37 | gilber | ok |
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| 23:50.41 | ecobit | PaPyRene10: yeah and you'd save a vast amount of time if you'd just boot knoppix on the remote system and sync to it that way |
| 23:50.42 | abrotman | antgel: nope |
| 23:50.50 | antgel | abrotman: inorrect |
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| 23:51.01 | abrotman | i don't think login just reads it |
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| 23:51.07 | antgel | there is no man page for /etc/environment either |
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| 23:51.12 | gnube | gilber, Do you suddenly need journaling? |
| 23:51.26 | abrotman | antgel: nope .. |
| 23:51.39 | abrotman | gilber: gnube: ext3 has journaling |
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| 23:51.46 | abrotman | !reiserfs |
| 23:51.47 | dpkg | hmm... reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
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| 23:51.56 | gilber | gnube, i wanna test other fs |
| 23:52.00 | foo | How can I get windows media player working in firefox? |
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| 23:52.07 | abrotman | what? |
| 23:52.10 | abrotman | hrm |
| 23:52.11 | antgel | foo: install windows |
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| 23:52.24 | RogueDopple | ha ha |
| 23:52.32 | abrotman | !info mozilla-mplayer sarge |
| 23:52.33 | dpkg | mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 94 kB, Installed size: 304 kB |
| 23:52.36 | RogueDopple | foo: you gotta be joking |
| 23:52.43 | foo | antgel: Umn, no |
| 23:52.45 | antgel | here's one. |
| 23:52.50 | foo | RogueDopple: Umn - no. |
| 23:52.56 | abrotman | no .. i think that if you install the mplayer and the codecs .. that mozilla-mplayer might work |
| 23:53.11 | antgel | according to apt-file /etc/environment doesn't exist. discuss. |
| 23:53.21 | abrotman | antgel: debconf generated |
| 23:53.30 | ecobit | abrotman: don't you need the nerim.net sources for that stuff? |
| 23:53.34 | jkern | foo, I have installed codecs for windows media and gxine plays them from firefox |
| 23:53.35 | abrotman | !mplayer |
| 23:53.35 | dpkg | i guess mplayer is not packaged by debian for licensing issues, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. |
| 23:53.35 | antgel | abrotman: what package? |
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| 23:53.40 | abrotman | antgel: nfc |
| 23:53.48 | abrotman | antgel: i'd guess locales |
| 23:53.56 | abrotman | antgel: let's ask a DD !!! |
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| 23:54.11 | foo | RogueDopple: Yes, it is. You think I want windows media player? No. But some websites don't care about what OS I want. For example, CNN. I would like to watch some of the videos of the things that are going on. |
| 23:54.17 | antgel | abrotman: yeah, that would be, like, cool |
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| 23:54.20 | donw | Is there an easy way to have apt-get *list* the build depends for a package? |
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| 23:54.30 | abrotman | foo: i doubt you'll be able to watch those anyways |
| 23:54.35 | foo | abrotman: Why? |
| 23:54.42 | RogueDopple | ha ah |
| 23:54.43 | abrotman | donw: apt-cache depends <pkg> |
| 23:54.46 | gnube | abrotman, I thought you were a DD |
| 23:54.53 | ecobit | foo: then write letters to the people who run CNN telling them what idiots they are |
| 23:54.54 | abrotman | foo: it will probably check the actual plugin |
| 23:54.56 | streuner | donw: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 23:54.57 | antgel | he's a wannabe ;) |
| 23:54.58 | foo | abrotman: hmm, I apt-cache search mplayer .. and get nothing mplayer related. |
| 23:54.59 | abrotman | gnube: no .. |
| 23:54.59 | RogueDopple | well well itsmandriva op foo he he |
| 23:55.08 | foo | abrotman: Hmm, I don't think so. Worth a short, though. |
| 23:55.17 | abrotman | antgel: no .. i'm too lazy to go through the NM process |
| 23:55.21 | RogueDopple | doppelganger dies laughing |
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| 23:55.29 | ma3x | how do i set LD_LIBRARY_PATH= forever? |
| 23:55.31 | abrotman | foo: ok .. /msg dpkg mplayer /msg dpkg marillat .. apt-get install mozilla-mplayer |
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| 23:55.36 | abrotman | ma3x: we told you |
| 23:55.41 | ma3x | abrotman, that was export |
| 23:55.42 | gnube | abrotman, What is the NM process? |
| 23:55.45 | foo | abrotman: Gocha - thanks |
| 23:55.47 | abrotman | !nm |
| 23:55.48 | dpkg | nm is probably New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. And also nevermind, or a program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
| 23:55.49 | jkern | foo, I have installed codecs for windows media and gxine plays them from firefox |
| 23:56.01 | ma3x | abrotman, but I must login to the shell and then execute |
| 23:56.03 | abrotman | foo: but beware .. i've never done it .. or tried it |
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| 23:56.08 | abrotman | ma3x: execute what? |
| 23:56.08 | antgel | abrotman: but you have shitloads of energy for irc |
| 23:56.09 | ma3x | abrotman, if I start it from the desktop, it won't run |
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| 23:56.15 | ma3x | abrotman, amule |
| 23:56.18 | foo | jkern: Gocha. Codecs are w32codecs ... I don't have that package, apt-cache can't find it |
| 23:56.27 | abrotman | antgel: yeah .. well .. don't peek at the debstats |
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| 23:56.32 | antgel | foo: it's in contrib or non-free |
| 23:56.33 | gnube | abrotman, Yeah no shit, you are a typing madman |
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| 23:56.42 | abrotman | ma3x: uhm .. which file did you put it in ? |
| 23:56.48 | donw | abrotman: That doesn't list what is required to build the package, just want it wants for installation. |
| 23:56.53 | jkern | foo, apt-cache search codecs for the package name maybe |
| 23:57.04 | abrotman | donw: should be the .. same ? |
| 23:57.08 | foo | antgel: thanks |
| 23:57.11 | foo | jkern: Tried. |
| 23:57.15 | ma3x | abrotman, .bashrc and that's only valid when I login to the shell. But when I execute the file from desktop, it won't run |
| 23:57.17 | donw | streuner: I'm not a registered user, so I can't /msg dpkg. :( Googling... |
| 23:57.24 | abrotman | donw: man apt-build ? |
| 23:57.29 | ecobit | maybe "he" is just some interactive AI/neuralnet experiment at MIT or something |
| 23:57.32 | gnube | Is becoming a new maintainer the best / only way to become a DD? |
| 23:57.32 | streuner | !simple sid backport |
| 23:57.32 | dpkg | [simple sid backport] 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
| 23:57.44 | abrotman | ma3x: gdm ? |
| 23:57.47 | donw | abrotman: Nope, and I can't seem to find 'apt-build' in the man catalogue. |
| 23:57.49 | abrotman | err gnome |
| 23:57.55 | abrotman | !info apt-build sarge |
| 23:57.57 | dpkg | apt-build: (frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.11.10 (sarge), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 184 kB |
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| 23:58.02 | streuner | donw: /msg nickserv help |
| 23:58.02 | abrotman | donw: gotta install it first :) |
| 23:58.09 | stumbles | a recent apt-get upgrade that i did upgraded a couple of alsa packages causing a conflic and removal of alsa-utils. It also reset the mixer to muted. Now i can't set the default volume as i have no alsa-ctl. Is there another way? |
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| 23:58.19 | jkern | foo, perhaps w32codecs is only in sid |
| 23:58.22 | antgel | abrotman: have you looked at them lately? |
| 23:58.25 | ma3x | abrotman, what about gdm? i dont have display manager? How does that affect the thema? |
| 23:58.33 | donw | streuner: My problem is that build-dep gets pissy about versions for some of the build-deps, so I need to set some of them up manually, and I want a *list* of the build dependencies if possible... |
| 23:58.37 | abrotman | antgel: at what? |
| 23:58.39 | foo | jkern: No, I need to add this repository IIRC |
| 23:58.44 | antgel | abrotman: debstats |
| 23:58.45 | donw | abrotman: That might help, yes. :) |
| 23:58.45 | abrotman | ma3x: gdm ingnores .. try .bash_profile ... |
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| 23:59.00 | abrotman | antgel: yeah .. some time today .. i am not impressed |
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| 23:59.11 | ecobit | stumbles: you need alsa-utils |
| 23:59.22 | gnube | antgel, What are debstats? |
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| 23:59.22 | abrotman | stupid bots |
| 23:59.23 | abrotman | !debstats |
| 23:59.23 | dpkg | i heard debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 23:59.35 | donw | jkern: You can get the codecs from the MPlayer apt... |
| 23:59.35 | xhypno | wow, cold in there |
| 23:59.35 | stumbles | ecobit: it conflicts, requiring the uninstall of gnome! |
| 23:59.35 | ma3x | abrotman, i dont have display manager anyway. I always start x manually |
| 23:59.38 | jkern | foo, well, maybe it has the codecs you want but I think I had to install them |
| 23:59.45 | antgel | abrotman: i feel funny. i saw myself in 5th and felt ill. then i noticed that that was antgel_ and antgel is in at 53rd, and together i'm in at 3rd. |
| 23:59.55 | foo | jkern: Yeah, needed to add marillat. |
| 23:59.57 | ecobit | stumbles: no it doesn't |
| 23:59.59 | abrotman | antgel: see .. don't you feel bad? |
