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| 00:03.08 | brett | hey anybody get 2.6.11 to compile on unstable? |
| 00:03.19 | alcros | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
| 00:04.09 | Guerin | brett: plwnty of times |
| 00:04.19 | Guerin | brett: don't use gcc4 |
| 00:04.26 | brett | I'm getting a strange Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' |
| 00:04.35 | brett | ahh |
| 00:04.45 | brett | um |
| 00:04.57 | brett | do I just say 'CC=gcc3' or something? |
| 00:05.17 | Vlatt | brett: update as86 |
| 00:05.20 | Guerin | use make-kpkg and MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.x" |
| 00:05.36 | Guerin | brett: /msg dpkg kp; /.. ... .. .... |
| 00:05.39 | Guerin | fuck |
| 00:05.46 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:06.55 | alcros | sorry, I was trying to read the guidelines |
| 00:08.08 | brett | hmm that mantra's great, but I only have gcc-3.3 |
| 00:08.30 | Guerin | no gcc 4? |
| 00:08.35 | brett | that too |
| 00:08.43 | Guerin | so use gcc 3 |
| 00:08.45 | Guerin | 3.3 |
| 00:08.55 | abrotman | Guerin: that might be qotd material |
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| 00:09.15 | Guerin | heh |
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| 00:09.22 | Guerin | !qotd0 |
| 00:09.22 | dpkg | hmm... qotd127 is < runedude> I dont hire any admins. My dad sets up router settings. He has a degree in computers. now shush. Lol. It's not changing, and thats that. |
| 00:09.33 | abrotman | !qotd146 is <alcros> sorry, I was trying to read the guidelines |
| 00:09.33 | dpkg | ...but qotd146 is already something else... |
| 00:09.39 | abrotman | !qotd147 is <alcros> sorry, I was trying to read the guidelines |
| 00:09.39 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 00:09.57 | abrotman | alcros: no offense to you .. but i don't think i've ever seen that said here :) |
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| 00:12.34 | ysothoth | I put persist in my pppd conf but it still gets disconnected. Is there another recommended way to stay online? |
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| 00:13.06 | abrotman | use diald |
| 00:13.20 | abrotman | ysothoth: also consider your ISP may be doing it |
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| 00:13.24 | ysothoth | diald is similar to wvdial? |
| 00:13.34 | abrotman | !diald |
| 00:13.34 | dpkg | Someone claimed that "Dial on Demand is obsolete - pppd 2.3.x has builtin demand dialing that's much easier to set up!", but that requires >ppp2.2.0, so you need kernel >2.0.38. or not quite obsolete... it has better packet matching capabilities |
| 00:13.35 | ysothoth | yeah, it's actually a cdma modem so I'm not surprised it disconncets me often. |
| 00:13.40 | abrotman | there you go |
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| 00:14.59 | hcy | hi, i'm trying -- and having trouble -- to install debian on a sun ultra 5 machine. I put the sparc netinst disc in, told it to boot from cdrom, it starts the debian startup stuff, then says cramfs: wrong magic. Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00 , Press L1-A to return to the boot prom --- and goes no further. any ideas what i need to be doing please? |
| 00:15.04 | ysothoth | I'll check that out...thanks |
| 00:15.36 | brett | hmm why does the kp mantra do a make-kpkg clean twice? |
| 00:16.28 | abrotman | brett: can't be clean enough |
| 00:16.59 | silverton | so, when did xorg make it into testing? |
| 00:17.07 | brett | I guess cleanlyness is next to godliness |
| 00:17.31 | abrotman | no .. that's BOFH |
| 00:17.39 | abrotman | silverton: when or has it? |
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| 00:17.49 | dondelelcaro | brett: notice the fact that there are two different ways that clean is called? |
| 00:17.51 | mike-bz | hi guys |
| 00:17.53 | abrotman | silverton: afaict . it hasn't |
| 00:17.53 | dondelelcaro | brett: that's important. |
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| 00:17.54 | silverton | it has, I just updated/upgraded today |
| 00:18.02 | abrotman | silverton: then packages.d.o is out of date |
| 00:18.05 | hcy | can someone help with my debian/sun issue? |
| 00:18.13 | abrotman | #debian-sparc? |
| 00:18.19 | mike-bz | I have a debian based UML, and want to err, clean it up, theres been alot of crap installing and running, is there anyway I can get all the configs back to defaults etc.? |
| 00:18.22 | abrotman | !info xserver-xorg etch |
| 00:18.26 | anakinskywalker | what command in apt-get to get the driver for nvidia |
| 00:18.29 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 (etch), Packaged size: 5563 kB, Installed size: 15696 kB |
| 00:18.35 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:18.41 | abrotman | wait .. is gcc4 in too ? |
| 00:18.43 | hcy | tried it, only one person's there, he's trying to help... but if any of you know stuff about suns and could join and help, i'd appreciate it |
| 00:19.02 | silverton | I forgot how to find out ;) |
| 00:19.07 | dondelelcaro | !tell anakinskywalker -about nivida |
| 00:19.10 | abrotman | oh wait |
| 00:19.11 | dondelelcaro | !tell anakinskywalker -about nvidia |
| 00:19.18 | EdLin | !info g++ etch |
| 00:19.20 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: your spelling stinks :) |
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| 00:19.21 | dondelelcaro | damn 'i' is moving about |
| 00:19.21 | dpkg | g++: (The GNU C++ compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:4.0.1-3 (etch), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 8 kB |
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| 00:19.32 | brett | abrotman: hmm I incanted the mantra, and I'm still getting the same error |
| 00:19.34 | ricky_clarkson | tell dondelelcaro about nevada |
| 00:19.35 | dondelelcaro | !spelling ability |
| 00:19.35 | dpkg | dondelelcaro's spelling ability, or rather, the lack thereof, is one of the wonders of the modern world. |
| 00:19.35 | EdLin | abrotman: yep |
| 00:19.36 | daze1 | Anyone tried Port Sentry? |
| 00:19.41 | Guerin | omfg etch == sid! |
| 00:19.48 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: btw .. the beer factoid is full of misspelled words :) |
| 00:19.48 | GoatRoby | I know xscreensaver runs in background and activates when X is idle, can xlockmore do the same? |
| 00:19.48 | Guerin | !anyone use port sentry |
| 00:19.49 | dpkg | No, no one uses port sentry, not even the people who use it. |
| 00:19.54 | mike-bz | anyone, theres gotta be a way to get a debian install back to defaults? default configs, startup scripts etc.? |
| 00:19.57 | abrotman | EdLin: yeah .. info gcc says the same thing |
| 00:20.01 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah, I've fixed two of the ones that people have pointed out |
| 00:20.04 | ricky_clarkson | !literal cmd: beer (.*?) |
| 00:20.04 | dpkg | CMD: beer (.*?) is ($1): <action> (pulls out a (fine|excellent|exquisite|tasty)|pours a (pint|litre|quart) of|deftly decants a fine) (Guinness|Spaten (Optimater|Pils)|Jever|La Maudite|Yuengling Lager|Dogfishhead 90min IPA|Piraat|Franziskaner Hefeweizen) for $1 |
| 00:20.20 | daze1 | what is wrong with port sentry? |
| 00:20.21 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ah .. you got the hefe i saw today |
| 00:20.25 | LightVision | ricky_clarkson: hello |
| 00:20.39 | LightVision | daze1: what ism port sentry? |
| 00:20.39 | Guerin | daze1: nobody's ever used it, so nobody knows. |
| 00:20.45 | ricky_clarkson | LightVision: Hi, Lionel. |
| 00:21.00 | LightVision | ricky_clarkson: who is Lionel? |
| 00:21.03 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: lightweight |
| 00:21.06 | Guerin | is that the one which binds to EVERY port, and then complains if something else tries to bind to something? |
| 00:21.13 | ricky_clarkson | LightVision: The guy who wrote and sang "Hello". |
| 00:21.35 | dondelelcaro | does anyone know if there is a better replacement for dpkg-scanpackages that supports multiple versions of a single package in the Packages file? |
| 00:21.43 | mike-bz | anyone please? :| |
| 00:21.48 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: i wouldnt have thought you were the person who drinks alcohol, for you come across as person who values his mind and brain. very smart and educated |
| 00:21.50 | EdLin | !anyone |
| 00:21.50 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 00:21.53 | daze1 | LightVision- port sentry blocks computers from scanning your ports |
| 00:21.59 | Guerin | mike-bz: they call it 'reinstalling' |
| 00:22.04 | dondelelcaro | LightVision: ethanol is excellent |
| 00:22.07 | LightVision | ricky_clarkson: i like his daughter |
| 00:22.11 | mike-bz | Guerin: need to be able to do remotely :| |
| 00:22.19 | Guerin | daze1: sounds like a grand old waste of time, then |
| 00:22.21 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: lol :P |
| 00:22.34 | Guerin | mike-bz: that's doable too, using debootstrap. |
| 00:22.51 | mike-bz | bit risky on a UML, dont wanna kill it |
| 00:22.56 | dondelelcaro | LightVision: a lot of people drink alchohol, but like everything, moderation is key. |
| 00:23.02 | Guerin | LightVision: are you implying that people who drink alcohol don't value their minds and brains? |
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| 00:23.06 | mike-bz | I asked on here to find an alternative to debootstrap |
| 00:23.07 | EdLin | ricky_clarkson: his brother invented C |
| 00:23.14 | ricky_clarkson | dondelelcaro: I wish somebody had told me that last Thursday night. |
| 00:23.15 | mike-bz | like maybe a dist-upgrade but using new configs |
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| 00:23.20 | abrotman | because obviously smart and educated people never drink |
| 00:23.22 | daze1 | Guerin: yeah, i noticed with strict iptables rules it doesnt even get a chance to use the port sentry...thats why i was wondering if anyone used it |
| 00:23.23 | mike-bz | and putting startup scripts back to default |
| 00:23.29 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: No, they use crack instead. |
| 00:23.46 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 229589 |
| 00:23.49 | dpkg | #229589:W[dpkg-dev] [DPKG-SCANPACKAGES] allow listing more than one version of a package; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:03:01 UTC |
| 00:23.50 | Guerin | mike-bz: you could --purge --reinstall everything |
| 00:23.59 | silverton | argh, where is the config file for xorg? |
| 00:24.00 | mike-bz | would take a while me things |
| 00:24.03 | mike-bz | *thinks |
| 00:24.04 | abrotman | stupid humans are addictive little creatures |
| 00:24.05 | ricky_clarkson | dondelelcaro: dbugs is a great feature. |
| 00:24.11 | Guerin | silverton: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 00:24.11 | mike-bz | Guerin: the install is about 4 years old :| |
| 00:24.16 | Guerin | mike-bz: whee! |
| 00:24.18 | ricky_clarkson | Whenever you're fed up with DDs, read this: |
| 00:24.20 | ricky_clarkson | !why not mozilla |
| 00:24.20 | dpkg | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84128 |
| 00:24.26 | silverton | Guerin, *smacks himself in the forehead* |
| 00:24.28 | mike-bz | installed a lot of crap I dont even remember installing Guerin |
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| 00:25.14 | silverton | when switching from xfree86 to xorg, is a restart needed, or just doing a ctrl alt backspace ? |
| 00:25.23 | brett | that is a restart |
| 00:25.29 | abrotman | silverton: it's a crash |
| 00:25.32 | silverton | ah, okay, wasn't sure |
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| 00:25.33 | beardy | silverton: Does that mean you smack him, or yourself? |
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| 00:25.38 | silverton | beardy, myself |
| 00:25.39 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: sorry the first time I will EVER disagree with you. For imho, alcohol should be totally avoided. Its poison. And some things are not meant even in moderation, smoking etc! and nobody would say you can take heroin in moderation would they? :) |
| 00:26.03 | Guerin | silverton: restart x, not your computer |
| 00:26.03 | beardy | silverton: :) |
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| 00:26.05 | silverton | Guerin, okay, I did that, but it doesn't appear to have done anything |
| 00:26.12 | silverton | still have the XF86 config file |
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| 00:26.14 | abrotman | bah .. i eat tennis balls in moderation .. nothing wrong iwth it |
| 00:26.15 | LightVision | Guerin: im suggesting people who drink alcohol dont truly understand or realise what that posion does to their brain, thats all im saying |
| 00:26.42 | dondelelcaro | LightVision: heroin has its uses too, as do most other pharmecuiticals... but considering the things that I could be drinking, good alchohol is just fine. |
| 00:26.42 | Guerin | LightVision: you presume that all alcohol drinkers are less well informed than you? That's very presumptive. |
| 00:27.01 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: as you say ;) |
| 00:27.05 | fanopanic | Cheers! |
| 00:27.12 | LightVision | Guerin: no comment :) |
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| 00:27.56 | abrotman | Guerin: you're so stupid .. dumb drinker! |
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| 00:28.01 | bucky | LightVision, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_Nation |
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| 00:28.16 | LightVision | Guerin: I drank alcohol for 16 years and today I suffer the effects and permanent brain damage! I speak from experience and in hindiight would never touch poison such as alcohol. |
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| 00:28.26 | LightVision | bucky: I would never read or trust wikipedia! |
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| 00:28.37 | LightVision | bucky: anyone can edit an article on wikipedia! |
| 00:28.40 | Guerin | LightVision: a bottle a day will do that |
| 00:28.41 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 00:28.47 | LightVision | wikipedia cannot be relied on for accurate data |
| 00:28.47 | mike-bz | ok, I'm having a mental block, where the hell are the startup scripts |
| 00:28.48 | bucky | wikipedia is written by alcoholics |
| 00:28.50 | Guerin | LightVision: yeah, that's what makes it GOOD |
| 00:28.51 | mike-bz | im goign crazy :D |
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| 00:28.57 | abrotman | the damage is apparent |
| 00:28.59 | Guerin | mike-bz: /etc/init.d |
| 00:29.07 | Guerin | !abrotman++ |
| 00:29.07 | LightVision | Guerin: I drank a bit each day |
| 00:29.25 | mike-bz | Guerin: I mean like runlevel startup scripts |
| 00:29.35 | Guerin | mike-bz: /etc/rc?.d |
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| 00:29.48 | mike-bz | thats the one, lol, cheers |
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| 00:30.55 | LightVision | Guerin: and as a result of drinking alcohol, now at age 41, I have permanent brain damage from it and problems with certain things in my life |
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| 00:31.17 | Guerin | heh |
| 00:31.18 | Guerin | LightVision: you drank too much. |
| 00:31.21 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: hehe .. whatever could you mean |
| 00:31.34 | abrotman | or had a preexisting condition |
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| 00:31.38 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Hehe. |
| 00:31.39 | mike-bz | hrm |
| 00:31.39 | LightVision | Guerin: perhaps that is true and for 16 years, too long |
| 00:31.57 | mike-bz | if I'm trying to purge a package Guerin, and its not allowing it because some dependancies arnt installed |
| 00:32.02 | stouset | Bleh, why can't FedEx estimate the delivery time of a package, so I can actually try and be there? :\ |
| 00:32.03 | mike-bz | how do i get around that? |
| 00:32.03 | mike-bz | :| |
| 00:32.03 | LightVision | Guerin: i made a mistake not knowing the damage it does |
| 00:32.09 | dondelelcaro | mike-bz: what are you trying to purge? |
| 00:32.17 | abrotman | stouset: fedex site sucks .. use ups :) |
| 00:32.22 | Guerin | mike-bz: yes. |
| 00:32.23 | mike-bz | dondelelcaro: proftpd |
| 00:32.23 | brett | should I be patching my kernel source with the debian patches? |
| 00:32.28 | stouset | abrotman: UPS not so good for shipping computer parts. |
| 00:32.31 | LightVision | stouset: cant you check it on Fedex website? |
| 00:32.31 | dondelelcaro | stouset: hey, they do estimate it... it will arrive some time between 6A and 6P... |
| 00:32.33 | Guerin | brett: you should be using debian kernel sources |
| 00:32.38 | abrotman | stouset: i get parts from them all the time .. never a problem |
| 00:32.44 | Guerin | brett: in fact ... you should be using debian kernel packages |
| 00:32.48 | brett | Guerin: I did, I installed kernel-tree-2.6.11 |
| 00:32.49 | LightVision | stouset: when I used fedex it told me on website where package is and when its arricing |
| 00:32.50 | stouset | LightVision: The day, yes. But there's a 12 hour window when they'll deliver, and I can't be home all day =P |
| 00:32.52 | bucky | LightVision, do you have fetal alcohol syndrome? |
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| 00:32.56 | mike-bz | aah, nevermind, sorted it :D |
| 00:32.59 | Guerin | brett: in which case, it's already patched |
| 00:33.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 445] by debhelper |
| 00:33.09 | stouset | abrotman: I've had a lot of things damaged in shipping :\ It's insured, but still a PITA. |
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| 00:33.11 | mike-bz | wasnt the missing ones, it was the fact that 2 packages depended on each other |
| 00:33.13 | LightVision | stouset: can you ask a neighbour to get it? |
| 00:33.15 | brett | Guerin: then why do I have a 'kernel-patches' directory under /usr/src |
| 00:33.23 | abrotman | stouset: we get from a warehouse though .. so maybe they pack better |
| 00:33.28 | Guerin | brett: man make-kpkg |
| 00:33.33 | dondelelcaro | mike-bz: yeah, in that case you have to remove them all at once... but you probably noticed that. |
| 00:33.37 | abrotman | stouset: it's also only 1.5 hours by car away |
| 00:33.39 | stouset | LightVision: Well, they don't drop it at the door if you don't answer. They leave a thing you can sign for them to leave it the NEXT day. |
| 00:33.39 | LightVision | bucky: define fetal alcohol syndrome |
| 00:33.43 | Guerin | brett: for additional patches, like reiser4 and so |
| 00:33.48 | stouset | abrotman: Perhaps so :\ |
| 00:33.50 | Guerin | LightVision: look it up on wikipedia |
| 00:33.57 | brett | Ahh |
| 00:33.59 | abrotman | haha |
| 00:33.59 | mike-bz | dondelelcaro: yeah, I have :P |
| 00:34.06 | brett | Guerin: so why is it not working? :) |
| 00:34.16 | LightVision | Guerin: I never use wikipedia! wikipedia can be written or edited by anyone! |
| 00:34.16 | Guerin | brett: htfsik? |
| 00:34.30 | abrotman | LightVision: try uncyclopedia |
| 00:34.30 | Guerin | brett: use debian kernel images |
| 00:34.32 | abrotman | or webmd |
| 00:34.41 | bucky | LightVision, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_Alcohol_syndrome |
| 00:34.55 | LightVision | Guerin: wikipedia is filled with false, misleading, inaccurate, limited and incomplete data! even a 6 year old can look up something and edit the article |
| 00:35.05 | abrotman | no they can't |
| 00:35.09 | LightVision | bucky: sorry I dont use or rely on wikipedia ever |
| 00:35.16 | LightVision | bucky: read above for reason |
| 00:35.18 | Guerin | LightVision: which is exactly WHY you should read it ... you're suffering from an acute case of "La la la I can't hear you-itis", and it can be cured by taking in a breadth of opinion. |
| 00:35.20 | abrotman | idiot .. you have to at least login to edit .. |
| 00:35.25 | brett | Guerin: wanna build my own; I need i915 drm modules |
| 00:35.33 | stouset | abrotman: Is that recent? Didn't used to have to. |
| 00:35.34 | Guerin | drm modules? |
| 00:35.36 | LightVision | Guerin: ok :) |
| 00:35.44 | brett | For X? |
| 00:35.47 | abrotman | stouset: i'm almost certain you have to .. because it was getting abused |
| 00:35.48 | Guerin | oh |
| 00:36.06 | stouset | abrotman: Ah. Must've changed in the last year or so. Neat. |
| 00:36.07 | LightVision | bucky: anyone relying on using wikipedia for accurate data is NUTS :P heh |
| 00:36.08 | Guerin | brett: is the patch in debian already? |
| 00:36.18 | abrotman | anyone making stuff up on the fly .. is nuts |
| 00:36.19 | brett | CONFIG_DRM_I915=m |
| 00:36.22 | brett | apperently |
| 00:36.32 | brett | You mean the patch for I915? |
| 00:36.36 | Guerin | brett: so use a stock debian kernel and probe that module |
| 00:36.42 | stouset | LightVision: However, it is often useful to rely on Wikipedia just out of interest. If you're not writing a paper, the hell with it. |
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| 00:37.24 | brett | I'm using the 2.6.8 image, and it doesn't have it |
| 00:38.11 | LightVision | stouset: never, for I only seek and rely on accurate sources, well establiashed solid sources for my data/info :) |
| 00:38.20 | stouset | abrotman: Nah, not good enough to be lisa. Maybe eliza :) |
| 00:38.23 | abrotman | brett: 2.6.8 doesn't support 9x5 intel stuff |
| 00:38.33 | bucky | attention deficits, impulsiveness, an inability to reason from cause to effect; a failure to comprehend the concept of time; and an inability to tell reality from fantasy all symptoms of FAS |
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| 00:38.37 | Guerin | LightVision: like the one which told you all alcohol is bad, all the time? Riiight. |
| 00:38.46 | stouset | LightVision: That's silly. Every source is fallible. Hell, 99% of what we know and believe about physics today is simply wrong. It's a decent model, but it's wrong. |
| 00:38.57 | LightVision | stouset: I can write an article on cancer for example on wikipedia and make all sorts of false claims and people will read it thinking and quioting it as truth! Not good |
| 00:39.02 | abrotman | nevermind those doctors that say a glass of red wine a night can lower your chance of heart attack |
| 00:39.09 | abrotman | doctors suck .. they're stupid |
| 00:39.15 | dvs | Is Gnome 2.12 in sid yet? |
| 00:39.20 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel sid |
| 00:39.23 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 363 kB, Installed size: 860 kB |
| 00:39.24 | Guerin | LightVision: no, people who know more than you will change it and publically pan you for being such a bullshit artist |
| 00:39.26 | abrotman | dvs: nope |
| 00:39.30 | LightVision | stouset: indeed. Einsten once said "I come to the wrong conclusions 90% of the time" I tend to agree :) |
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| 00:39.47 | abrotman | dvs: wait a couple of days |
| 00:39.49 | bucky | LightVision, they'll never let you write an article on wikipedia.. try writing one on alcohol for them |
| 00:39.51 | stouset | LightVision: So, if you're only looking for 100% accurate, authoritative information, why are you in #debian? We might have good solutions to problems, but none of us are the end-all be-all of Debian knowledge. |
| 00:39.52 | dvs | doh! |
| 00:40.03 | Guerin | stouset: heh |
| 00:40.03 | LightVision | Guerin: I can write an article on wikipedia about cancer and sign it as a well know doctor |
| 00:40.05 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel experimental |
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| 00:40.12 | stouset | LightVision: Okay, maybe Guerin is. |
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| 00:40.19 | scarynetworkguy | So now that we're all touchy feely sensitive types should I give LightVision a big hug? |
| 00:40.21 | Guerin | LightVision: and other people will STILL know you're wrong. |
| 00:40.22 | `Ku | Myspace.com is a joke |
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| 00:40.31 | `Ku | See how all the woman look and dress the same |
| 00:40.38 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: you're such a troll |
| 00:40.40 | LightVision | Guerin: not everyone will know |
| 00:40.46 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Moi? |
| 00:40.53 | stouset | LightVision: What's to say that an article in Encyclopaedia Brittanica is correct? There are plenty of errors there. |
| 00:40.54 | LightVision | scarynetworkguy: yes pls,. love hugs :) |
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| 00:41.04 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: oh yeah .. obviously .. you're a big hairy troll! :) |
| 00:41.05 | Guerin | LightVision: no. Only the people who already wrote the cancer article and are curious to see what changes have been made. |
| 00:41.25 | stouset | LightVision: Given, I wouldn't use it as reference material in a paper or book, but for a quick easy personal information reference, it's fine. |
| 00:41.33 | abrotman | why not invite LightVision to find a blatently false article ? |
| 00:41.35 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Was it the bridge that tipped you off? |
| 00:41.39 | LightVision | stouset: excactly! but you have a better chance getting truth on a well established and accepted source as brittanica! Yet like you said, most of data in there too is false and misleading |
| 00:41.42 | Guerin | Actually, it IS a valuable research tool for some papers |
| 00:41.43 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: no .. the mullet |
| 00:41.47 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Ahhh. |
| 00:41.51 | stouset | LightVision: I said no such thing. |
| 00:41.53 | Guerin | my wife used wikipedia extensively in her grad work |
| 00:41.58 | sombra | Why is this not create /somefile?: foo="touch /somefile"; $foo |
| 00:42.01 | LightVision | Guerin: students may use it and then write a paper for school using false data |
| 00:42.02 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: All that stuff about Star Wars is clearly just made up. |
| 00:42.09 | LightVision | Guerin: and the students wouldnt know |
| 00:42.11 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i can think of something to nuke |
| 00:42.25 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: From orbit. It's the only way to be sure. |
| 00:42.35 | stouset | LightVision: And your claim about a better chance of getting truth from a source like that is a baseless claim, unless you've personally done or read extensive research on the topic. |
| 00:42.37 | LightVision | stouset: how much of data in britanicca is wrong? |
| 00:42.40 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: the real genius laser would be more fun :) |
| 00:42.49 | stouset | LightVision: How much of the data in Wikipedia is wrong? |
| 00:42.52 | Guerin | LightVision: your premise ignores ALL the checks and balances. I presume you get NONE of your information from anywhere on the internet, then? |
| 00:42.54 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Hehe. You bring the laser I'll bring the popcorn. |
| 00:42.55 | abrotman | stouset: you're being seriously trolled |
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| 00:43.04 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: laslo!! |
| 00:43.14 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: YAY!! |
| 00:43.30 | stouset | abrotman: The occasional argument with a troll can be fun =P |
| 00:43.39 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Do you like Kung-fu? |
| 00:43.43 | abrotman | bastard only behaves when an op is around |
| 00:43.51 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i love getting my ass kicked! |
| 00:43.51 | LightVision | stouset: NO IDEA! but I know the "system" used to add or edit data there and the system is filled with unreliable security holes, so i refuse to use it! and my guess is, maybe as much as 90% of data on wiki is limited, incomplete and false |
| 00:44.01 | Snake-Eyes | can apt use a https(ssl) repository ? |
| 00:44.09 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i think i almost have my bro talked into going to either warmdaddys or slyfox this weekend :) |
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| 00:44.16 | abrotman | Snake-Eyes: not that i'm aware of |
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| 00:44.25 | LightVision | Guerin: NEVER! you guess correctly! I would never base or create a solid conclusion based on the data received from internet |
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| 00:44.31 | stouset | LightVision: And to top it all off, even IF there was a difference between the accuracy of Wikipedia and Brittanica, in all likelihood it would be extraordinarily small; almost undeniably within the margin of error for any such study. |
| 00:44.31 | abrotman | Snake-Eyes: the man page might tell you |
| 00:44.40 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Good lad. Send a black helicopter for me. |
| 00:44.41 | Guerin | Snake-Eyes: good question. See if it depends on or is linked against any ssl/tls libs. |
| 00:44.59 | Guerin | LightVision: once again, we return to the qystion: why are you in #debian? |
| 00:45.00 | stouset | LightVision: 90%? Have you ever actually *used* Wikipedia? |
| 00:45.01 | beardy | LightVision: Do you think your sayings in an irc-channel will be taken more seriously than any other information on the net? |
| 00:45.16 | sombra | any suggestions on this one? foo="touch /somefile"; $foo works fine but not foo2='echo "hello" > /somefile2'; $foo2 |
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| 00:45.22 | LightVision | Guerin: belief systems are created by data received. so we better make sure to the best of our ability that the source of data we use to create a conclusion be acdurate and complete |
| 00:45.24 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i would .. ifi had one |
| 00:45.38 | Guerin | abrotman: i'm seeing that impairment now |
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| 00:45.41 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I know you would. That's why I love you man! |
| 00:45.47 | Guerin | sort of a mental NIH syndrome |
| 00:45.54 | abrotman | Guerin: i told you! |
| 00:46.11 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: mmm .. warmdaddys |
| 00:46.20 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: guess woh's playing there next weekend! |
| 00:46.25 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Who? |
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| 00:46.37 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: albert cummings |
| 00:46.45 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: OK... |
| 00:46.45 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: and cream is playing the gardens! |
| 00:47.00 | LightVision | stouset: you cant say that! for britinacca was written by qualifed people in their field! ANd wikipedia can be wrriten by ANYONE, even a 6 year child not qualifed in the topic! ANd wiki attracts people who delibertalty want to edit or create FALSE data! yet in britannica its likened to a "closed course" and they cant edit it! Yet Wikipedia is OPEN SOURCE where anyone can edit or add data |
| 00:47.02 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: How is it that I'm older than you and you're the one that likes dinosaur rock? |
| 00:47.23 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i have taste? :) |
| 00:47.29 | LightVision | Guerin: I am in Debian to ask dondelelcaro some questions |
| 00:47.38 | abrotman | Guerin: see |
| 00:47.42 | Guerin | LightVision: how do you know he's actually dondelelcaro? |
| 00:47.50 | Snake-Eyes | sources.list man lists all the URI, https isnt there yet ssh is so it might be linked to ssl libs |
| 00:47.52 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Likely. |
| 00:47.53 | Guerin | he might be me, just in another client! |
| 00:48.06 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i have crappy CDs too .. |
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| 00:48.09 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Are you me? |
| 00:48.11 | LightVision | Guerin: So I shall answer you again, I am here to ask dondelelcaro some questions! and others like yourself who seem qualifed in using Debian! |
| 00:48.13 | Guerin | or even worse ... he might be abrotman ... and drunk |
| 00:48.14 | stouset | Guerin: There's probably a 60% chance of that. |
| 00:48.14 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Like Cream? |
| 00:48.23 | abrotman | Guerin: hehehe |
| 00:48.23 | stouset | LightVision: What qualifies us to use Debian? |
| 00:48.24 | beardy | sombra: The first one only gives $foo the stringvalue "touch /somefile". The second one also gets a string value. 'man bash', use backticks `echo` or $(echo) |
| 00:48.30 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: Cream is good ! |
| 00:48.31 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: i dunno. Where are you now? |
| 00:48.32 | LightVision | Guerin: I wouldnt go and read wikipedia on how to use Debian, I would rather come here and ask qualified people like dondelelcaro :) |
| 00:48.47 | stouset | LightVision: Qualified people make mistakes. And many articles in Wikipedia are written by qualified people in their field. |
| 00:48.56 | abrotman | why .. wikipedia says #debian is mean to people |
| 00:48.59 | stouset | LightVision: How is dondelelcaro qualified? |
| 00:49.09 | Guerin | LightVision: but you said earlier that you'd never use any information you got from the internet ... is #debian not part of the internet? |
| 00:49.12 | Guerin | heheh |
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| 00:49.29 | stouset | dondelelcaro: Are you qualified to answer questions about Debian? |
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| 00:49.49 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: You really should know. |
| 00:49.51 | LightVision | stouset: indeed I have used wikipedia and realised after reading some articles on quantum mechanics and fashion that the articles were quoting data that is false and limited and incomplete |
| 00:49.51 | sombra | beardy, =) youre the man of this week =), thank you for the answer |
| 00:49.53 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Suuuuuuure. |
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| 00:50.09 | stouset | LightVision: And they were wrong, according to...? |
| 00:50.11 | beardy | sombra: No problem. :) |
| 00:50.27 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: i'm sitting at a desk, staring at a smallish square screen, upon which letters appear at intervals |
| 00:50.40 | abrotman | bah ... someone removed it |
| 00:50.47 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: LightVision |
| 00:50.49 | Guerin | bah |
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| 00:50.52 | Guerin | stouset: ^^ |
| 00:50.52 | LightVision | Guerin: I can tell he is really dondelelcaro by his method of speech |
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| 00:50.58 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: I have a biggish square screen. Other than that yes i think you are me. |
| 00:51.02 | Guerin | LightVision: hahah |
| 00:51.02 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Hehe. |
| 00:51.10 | dondelelcaro | stouset: depends on the question |
| 00:51.20 | stouset | dondelelcaro: Hm. Who qualified you? |
| 00:51.26 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: my screen is about 17" in diameter |
| 00:51.26 | LightVision | stouset LightVision: What qualifies us to use Debian? <-- by geting accurate results that work |
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| 00:51.31 | stouset | dondelelcaro: I demand to see a qualification. |
| 00:51.43 | LightVision | at the end of the day, knowledge can only be proven accurate when in action |
| 00:52.03 | stouset | LightVision: So how can you judge the content of Wikipedia without acting upon it? |
| 00:52.05 | dondelelcaro | stouset: db.debian.org |
| 00:52.16 | LightVision | stouset: and many artivles on wikipedia are written by kids who are not qualifed in that field |
| 00:52.27 | Guerin | LightVision: proof |
| 00:52.36 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Overall diameter or the bits that suck dark? |
| 00:52.37 | stouset | dondelelcaro: Well, but how do we know that db.debian.org is qualified? :\ |
| 00:52.51 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: just the shiny bits |
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| 00:53.13 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: I have about 19" of shiny bits. |
| 00:53.14 | abrotman | when in action .. wtf |
| 00:53.18 | Guerin | oh :( |
| 00:53.20 | LightVision | Guerin: I would use Britinanca on web as I would use the data given me by dondelelcaro! but I wold NEVER use "open source" information services that is open to ANYONE being able to edit its data |
| 00:53.20 | mike-bz | hrm |
| 00:53.23 | mike-bz | trying to install pureftpd |
| 00:53.25 | mike-bz | and getting this |
| 00:53.26 | mike-bz | This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 00:53.31 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: http://webpages.marshall.edu/~hartwel1/humor/misc/darksucker_theory.html |
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| 00:53.33 | mike-bz | any ideas? :| |
| 00:53.40 | Guerin | LightVision: so you said ... but that don't make a proof. |
| 00:53.42 | beardy | LightVision: Then this place perhaps is not for you. |
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| 00:53.56 | dondelelcaro | LightVision, stouset, Guerin, etc: This entire conversation is OT for #debian; please take it elsewhere. |
| 00:54.07 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: i'm done |
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| 00:55.25 | LightVision | beardy: i disagree, i love this place, love the people and love the helped I have received! this has nothing to with here, I was ONLY reffering to Wikipedia not being reliable or trustworthy due to anyojne being able to edit the data |
| 00:55.41 | Angel-SL | !openssl |
| 00:55.41 | dpkg | it has been said that openssl is the OpenSource version of Secure Socket Layer, or http://www.openssl.org/ |
| 00:55.44 | mike-bz | anyone?! |
| 00:55.51 | LightVision | beardy: you are not to tell me this place is not for me just because I wont use wikipedia as a source of data |
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| 00:56.02 | abrotman | LightVision: don't you love me? |
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| 00:56.08 | Guerin | mike-bz: your answer is in the error message |
| 00:56.09 | bucky | LightVision, linux was written by drunk college students |
| 00:56.10 | LightVision | beardy: I never spoke about IRC Debian channels, I only refered to Wikipedia |
| 00:56.24 | mike-bz | Guerin: I have no idea how to do that, opted for another ftpd anyway, nm |
| 00:56.29 | dvs | mike-bz: The question is: Do you feel lucky, punk? |
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| 00:56.31 | Guerin | mike-bz: i suggest you choose another ftpd |
| 00:56.31 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: yes I underatand |
| 00:56.32 | Guerin | heh |
| 00:56.34 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Very zen, that. |
| 00:56.38 | atom-z | How do you know that what you read in a normal encyclopedia is reliable? |
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| 00:56.44 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: blocked by the skool proxy |
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| 00:56.53 | Guerin | atom-z: been there |
| 00:56.54 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: Heh. |
| 00:57.04 | LightVision | dondelelcaro: sorry I wont talk about wikipedia again |
| 00:57.39 | bucky | !beer LightVision |
| 00:57.45 | atom-z | If anything wikipedia is likely to be better, because it stops an article being controlled by one source, if important information is omitted, someone can add it |
| 00:58.01 | Guerin | atom-z: warning shots have been fired already. |
| 00:58.43 | stouset | bucky: Bah, Guinness is too good for him =P |
| 00:58.45 | stouset | !beer LightVision |
| 00:58.46 | atom-z | warning shots? |
| 00:59.02 | stouset | atom-z: No more Wikipedia talk, or dondelelcaro will smite you. |
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| 00:59.09 | LightVision | thanks but I dont drink alcohol :) |
| 00:59.13 | Guerin | atom-z: this topic has been proscribed, and rightly so, for being offtopic. |
| 00:59.16 | abrotman | you should dam nit |
| 00:59.24 | LightVision | stouset: a nice glass of grape juice would be appreciated however ;) |
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| 01:00.17 | atom-z | hmm. fair enough |
| 01:00.35 | sombra | beardy, foo=$(echo hellox > /somefile2); echo "$foo" does not work, any suggestions on that one, i need to use the variable in both echo to do the actual operations within the variable |
| 01:00.41 | LightVision | atom-z: hello |
| 01:00.47 | atom-z | hello |
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| 01:01.12 | flowtron | sombra : try "cat" |
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| 01:01.39 | colk | I came home tonight and I have a kernel panic on the screen |
| 01:01.40 | LightVision | atom-z: what Debian are you using? |
| 01:01.45 | etchian | !alsa |
| 01:01.45 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 01:01.50 | colk | anything I can do with it or should Ijust reboot it |
| 01:01.53 | bucky | colk, over heated cpu? |
| 01:02.15 | Guerin | colk: what does it say? |
| 01:02.17 | colk | no |
| 01:02.20 | LightVision | colk: tried safe mode? |
| 01:02.27 | colk | well it only did it once |
| 01:02.34 | colk | X caused it it looks like |
| 01:02.43 | Guerin | colk: reboot and monitor |
| 01:02.46 | colk | although before that i have eth1 pci bus error |
| 01:02.46 | abrotman | saFe mode? |
| 01:02.47 | stouset | LightVision: What are you doing? Offering advice to someone? That's not how things work around here. You could be an unqualified six year old. |
| 01:02.51 | stouset | =P |
| 01:02.52 | LightVision | whats difference between x86 and X? |
| 01:02.58 | gravity | Uh |
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| 01:03.01 | Gathond | LightVision: ehhh |
| 01:03.02 | Plazma | !homer |
| 01:03.03 | dpkg | I hope I haven't upset you... Bongohead |
| 01:03.14 | atom-z | LightVision, debian-amd64 etch. Why? |
| 01:03.15 | LightVision | stouset: heheh ;) |
| 01:03.18 | colk | :P |
| 01:03.27 | gravity | LightVision: x86 is an architecture. X is the X Windows System. |
| 01:03.36 | Guerin | LightVision: one is a cpu architecture, the other is a protocol for a windowing system |
| 01:03.37 | etchian | !sound |
| 01:03.37 | dpkg | hmm... sound is ask me about <alsa-bork>, <alsa for morons>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound> and <arts>. For sarge go to http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 01:03.41 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:03.41 | LightVision | atom-z: what versions of Debian support a 64 cpu? |
| 01:03.50 | LightVision | gravity: ah ok |
| 01:03.59 | atom-z | debian-amd64 |
| 01:03.59 | Guerin | a 64 cpu? do you mean 64 bit? |
| 01:04.08 | abrotman | you souhld ask wikipedia about that |
| 01:04.16 | LightVision | Guerin: yes sorry I said wrong! is there a different version of X? |
| 01:04.20 | Guerin | alpha, sparc, amd64 ... some others. Maybe mips. |
| 01:04.23 | LightVision | Guerin: yes 64 bit |
| 01:04.43 | colk | ok thats not good |
| 01:04.49 | colk | it cant find a keyboard now |
| 01:04.52 | scarynetworkguy | !win abrotman. |
| 01:04.52 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman.! You have won the US presidency! |
| 01:04.54 | Guerin | LightVision: X is a protocol, or a protocol specification. It doesn't really have versions. There are various implementations of it. |
| 01:04.56 | caphuso | colk: there's one right in front of you |
| 01:05.01 | LightVision | Guerin: i want to buy a new computer! is it worth gettting one with a 64 bit cpu? AMD64 or something? |
| 01:05.09 | colk | on the other machine |
| 01:05.10 | LightVision | Guerin: ok ty |
| 01:05.23 | abrotman | everyone should be buying Dual Opteron :) |
| 01:05.25 | colk | thheirs a keyboard plugged in it isnt recongizing it |
| 01:05.28 | Guerin | LightVision: don't ask me, I only bought my first 3rd-millennium cpu last week. |
| 01:05.28 | Plazma | lightvision, i would say so |
| 01:05.47 | LightVision | Plazma: ok |
| 01:05.47 | Guerin | and the bloody thing overheats unless I underclock it |
| 01:05.53 | colk | lol |
| 01:05.53 | Guerin | stupid intel |
| 01:05.58 | colk | you need a bigger fan |
| 01:06.01 | LightVision | Guerin: really? |
| 01:06.08 | Guerin | colk: i'm using the fan it shipped with! |
| 01:06.10 | LightVision | Guerin: heh |
| 01:06.13 | Guerin | LightVision: truly. |
| 01:06.18 | LightVision | Guerin: what type of heat sink does it use? |
| 01:06.19 | Plazma | im using dual 1ghz PIII's so, |
| 01:06.29 | colk | yeah well the default ones are pos anyway |
| 01:06.33 | Guerin | LightVision: the one it came with. |
| 01:06.41 | beardy | sombra: Perhaps it's something like this you want to accomplish: foo='echo hellox > somefile2'; eval "$foo" ; echo $foo ; cat somefile2 |
| 01:06.48 | Guerin | colk: but they should WORK. I'm not using it for anything flash. |
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| 01:06.54 | LightVision | Guerin: yes ok, but any idea what that heat sink is made of and what type it is? |
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| 01:07.11 | LightVision | Guerin: sounds like a faulty chip |
| 01:07.21 | Guerin | LightVision: it's grey, and square, and appears to be made of aluminium |
| 01:07.23 | LightVision | Guerin: returen it |
| 01:07.26 | h3xis | can anyone tell me where to change the font size for the slit is? |
| 01:07.27 | colk | and also 2.6wont boot on it as well |
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| 01:07.33 | Guerin | LightVision: not happening. |
| 01:07.35 | abrotman | what a horrible troll |
| 01:07.36 | colk | though that was before today |
| 01:07.47 | colk | hmm my cable modems ip changed |
| 01:07.49 | LightVision | Guerin: ok, but really! it SHOULD work out of the box! if it doesnt, return it and ask for refund |
| 01:07.54 | Guerin | i have it running stably at 3/4 speed at ~57 degrees |
| 01:08.02 | Guerin | LightVision: not a new part |
| 01:08.03 | sombra | beardy, but that does not write to the file as well |
| 01:08.04 | LightVision | Guerin: it shouldnt run too hot |
| 01:08.14 | LightVision | Guerin: ok |
| 01:08.21 | caphuso | oh, i need to un-underclock my CPU too |
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| 01:08.24 | colk | oh sweet |
| 01:08.30 | colk | it booted 2.6 for once |
| 01:08.31 | sombra | beardy, I want to both show what's going to happend and then do it |
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| 01:08.33 | beardy | sombra: Yes it does. |
| 01:08.40 | colk | it usually dosent boot 2.6 for some reason |
| 01:08.40 | LightVision | colk: cool |
| 01:08.46 | Guerin | caphuso: northwood p4? |
| 01:08.51 | caphuso | Guerin: nah |
| 01:09.00 | colk | comes up with tray open errors |
| 01:09.03 | caphuso | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 2600+ |
| 01:09.09 | LightVision | Guerin: hope it works out for you |
| 01:09.16 | Guerin | LightVision: me too. |
| 01:09.23 | colk | im using a 2000+ on this machine |
| 01:09.32 | colk | and a p3 600 on the other machine |
| 01:09.38 | sombra | beardy, Ive tried exactly: foo='echo helloxt > somefile2'; eval "$foo" ; echo $foo ; cat somefile2 but that does not write |
| 01:09.38 | beardy | sombra: Well, switch places of "eval "$foo" ; echo $foo" to show what is going to be done before doing it |
| 01:09.40 | Guerin | My wife does, too. She doesn't want me sinking more money into parts I'm going to biff out in 5 months. |
| 01:10.06 | caphuso | sombra: of course it does |
| 01:10.16 | colk | oh hell |
| 01:10.29 | colk | i think i just figured out what caused the kernel panic |
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| 01:10.34 | Mortalman-afk | beardy: export foo ? |
| 01:10.43 | colk | the second ethernet controller is missing |
| 01:11.56 | colk | shucks |
| 01:12.05 | dvs | the language! |
| 01:12.05 | colk | I think my other ethernet card is fried |
| 01:12.25 | colk | its not showing up in lspci |
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| 01:12.29 | colk | or the cmos |
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| 01:12.54 | colk | sigh i guess I have a fried ethernet card |
| 01:13.13 | Guerin | that sounds like the cheapest possible piece of hardware you could be replacing! |
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| 01:13.52 | colk | true |
| 01:13.56 | Kovecses | anybody alive? |
| 01:14.04 | dvs | no |
| 01:14.07 | Guerin | nope |
| 01:14.17 | beardy | !tell sombra about abs-guide |
| 01:14.21 | Guerin | this is #deadbian |
| 01:15.16 | `Ku | I am in [?] Debian installer main menu |
| 01:15.20 | sombra | beardy, Here's exactly what I trying to accoplish: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Tr6AMT92.html |
| 01:15.22 | `Ku | How do I pick to install xwindows |
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| 01:15.52 | Guerin | `Ku: aptitude install x-window-system; if you're in tasksel, choose 'desktop' |
| 01:15.54 | Kovecses | !marillat |
| 01:15.54 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 01:15.58 | dvs | `Ku: Select the desktop system with the tasktel option |
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| 01:16.21 | `Ku | I dont see a tab for aptitude |
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| 01:16.36 | beardy | sombra: "Language: C++" ? |
| 01:17.02 | sombra | beardy, no |
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| 01:18.20 | etchian | How do you find out to which group belongs an application? |
| 01:18.23 | caphuso | sombra: eval $foo |
| 01:18.28 | abrotman | etchian: huh? |
| 01:18.31 | abrotman | ls -l ? |
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| 01:18.34 | caphuso | sombra: as you've already been told, so please listen |
| 01:18.34 | abrotman | groups ? |
| 01:19.01 | etchian | I am trying to get the sound working in Etch. Half of the sound things work, the other half don't. |
| 01:19.09 | caphuso | sombra: and why the hell are you using $() for a piece of code that produces no output that can be catched? |
| 01:19.09 | dvs | Huh? |
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| 01:19.18 | caphuso | sombra: that makes not a bit of sense |
| 01:19.26 | dvs | etchian: What "half" doesn't work? |
| 01:19.36 | ysothoth | Well diald wound up sucking ... I just put pppd in daemontools. |
| 01:19.40 | `Ku | dvs |
| 01:19.53 | `Ku | dvs why is their not a tab for that? |
| 01:19.57 | abrotman | ysothoth: sorry |
| 01:20.02 | etchian | frozen-bubble, skype, reading an audio cd from anything else than noatun |
| 01:20.09 | ysothoth | shrugs |
| 01:20.15 | abrotman | ysothoth: i'll remember that for the future |
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| 01:20.29 | beardy | sombra: Use the oneliner I gave you earlier, use the pieces in it to rewrite that script. |
| 01:20.30 | etchian | kde works, gnome does... |
| 01:20.40 | dvs | `Ku: It should be under the section "installing apps" or something like that. |
| 01:20.42 | abrotman | ysothoth: sorry to suggest a bad solution |
| 01:20.43 | Guerin | etchian: kill the sound system in kcontrol or use artsdsp to run non-kde apps which need sound |
| 01:20.45 | ysothoth | abrotman: I will try it again when I have time to play with it :) |
| 01:20.47 | sombra | beardy, ok, thank you |
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| 01:21.00 | etchian | ok. tx. |
| 01:21.09 | erich | etchian: usually it's a sound daemon (i.e. esd or artsd) blocking the sound. |
| 01:21.38 | colk | god damn |
| 01:21.45 | `Ku | dvs I just see Install the base system . Install GRUB . Install LILO |
| 01:21.45 | colk | theirs a few melted chips |
| 01:22.02 | etchian | how do I find them, erich? |
| 01:22.13 | colk | i dunno how that happed |
| 01:22.16 | dvs | `Ku: Well, you have to install the base system first before you can pick packages. |
| 01:22.23 | ysothoth | abrotman: It kept dying for some reason... wouldn't bring up pppd and diald terminated too |
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| 01:22.34 | ysothoth | abrotman: I used pppdconfig too |
| 01:22.35 | abrotman | ysothoth: that sounds like a total failure :) |
| 01:22.56 | erich | etchian: "ps aux | grep esd" should list esd if its running. and "fuser /dev/dsp" could (well, unless the sound daemon uses alsa natively) list the pid... |
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| 01:23.01 | ysothoth | er pppconfig |
| 01:23.09 | abrotman | i knew what you meant :) |
| 01:23.16 | ysothoth | just in case it didn't like something in my hand-made scripts |
| 01:23.24 | toonX | can i install debian/unstable without first installing stable --> upgrade to testing --> upgrade to unstable? |
| 01:23.30 | etchian | k, erich |
| 01:23.37 | abrotman | toonX: you can try a daily installer image |
| 01:23.38 | beardy | sombra: On line 7, you're missing an ending " |
| 01:23.42 | asg | toonX: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 01:23.53 | toonX | ok |
| 01:23.54 | Guerin | toonX: if you need to ask, you shouldn't even consider using unstable |
| 01:24.12 | erich | etchian: try installing "fuser", then run "fuser -v /dev/dsp /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p" - this should list them for both alsa and oss |
| 01:24.23 | Astroman | Bah, I don't like debian already, I'll stick to gentoo |
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| 01:24.34 | Guerin | Astroman: why? Not enough work? |
| 01:24.39 | erich | etchian: skype is very flaky, btw. I always had to restart it when i wanted working sound, if any other app had used sound in the meantime... |
| 01:24.41 | Astroman | Just doesn't feel right |
| 01:24.42 | toonX | but i want unstable bacause it has Xorg wich i need for better video performance .. i play games with cedega :) |
| 01:24.44 | sombra | beardy, the ending is on line 9? |
| 01:24.55 | chris | anyone familiar with the r-project? |
| 01:24.56 | asg | toonX: then install stable and upgrade |
| 01:24.59 | Guerin | toonX: xorg is in testing |
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| 01:25.09 | chris | xorg is now in testing? |
| 01:25.09 | erich | etchian: so convince people to use SIP instead of skype. |
| 01:25.11 | chris | really? |
| 01:25.15 | Guerin | chris: the people who wrote it should be |
| 01:25.18 | Guerin | yes |
| 01:25.20 | asg | !info xserver-xorg etch |
| 01:25.22 | Guerin | really truly |
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| 01:25.26 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 (etch), Packaged size: 5563 kB, Installed size: 15696 kB |
| 01:25.27 | toonX | Guerin, so i can upgrade just the x server from xfree to xorg ? |
| 01:25.29 | etchian | right now, if I can learn to handle sound, it>ll be a good start (I'm a newbie). |
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| 01:25.35 | chris | sweet |
| 01:25.39 | toonX | Guerin, that is have a stable debian with xorg ? |
| 01:25.42 | etchian | Never heard of SIP, erich, but will try it. |
| 01:25.42 | Guerin | toonX: are you using testing? |
| 01:25.49 | Guerin | toonX: no, TESTING, not stable |
| 01:25.52 | chris | well Guerin, I am asking b/c I am trying to d/l r-project and i don't know which package to d/l |
| 01:26.05 | erich | etchian: sip is a protocol. every big ISP in germany sells sip... |
| 01:26.16 | toonX | Guerin, so i can have testing with xorg ? |
| 01:26.29 | beardy | sombra: oh.. |
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| 01:26.40 | dvs | toonX: Now you can! |
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| 01:26.46 | resiak | xserver-xorg hit etch?! |
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| 01:26.48 | resiak | WOW! |
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| 01:26.51 | sombra | beardy, I fix this, I'm done in some minutes =) |
| 01:26.51 | Guerin | chris: apt-cache search r-base |
| 01:26.52 | toonX | i just need to be sure about it |
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| 01:26.53 | erich | etchian: my DSL modem has SIP built in. you can plug in three analog devices and a full ISDN s0 bus, and it will route over the normal phone (or ISDN) line or the internet via SIP, whichever you prefer... |
| 01:26.58 | Guerin | toonX: yes |
| 01:27.11 | toonX | Guerin, ok thanks for the patience |
| 01:27.17 | chris | thanks Guerin1 |
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| 01:28.51 | sombra | beardy, done: http://rafb.net/paste/results/f2swgR84.html |
| 01:29.19 | etchian | Will have to check, I have adsl |
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| 01:29.35 | sombra | beardy, thanks to you =), bye |
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| 01:30.48 | etchian | tx for your help, erich. |
| 01:30.59 | toonX | Guerin, than , can i download a netboot iso of debian/stable , have a minimal install (no X, just the base system) , change the repositories to point to testing and run apt-get dist-upgrade and have debian/testing installed and then upgrade xorg ? |
| 01:31.19 | asg | toonX: yes |
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| 01:31.57 | `Ku | SMP = 1 cpu ? |
| 01:31.59 | chris | err...how do i run r-project? |
| 01:32.00 | Guerin | toonX: 1 |
| 01:32.10 | Guerin | `Ku: SMP = > 1 cpu |
| 01:32.12 | dvs | `Ku: no |
| 01:32.13 | asg | `Ku: > 1 cpu |
| 01:32.16 | toonX | 2 .. 3 .. ? |
| 01:32.22 | Guerin | an even number |
| 01:32.33 | Guerin | or a single cpu with HypeThreading |
| 01:32.53 | Guerin | chris: read /usr/share/doc/r-base/* |
| 01:32.58 | resiak | Guerin++ |
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| 01:33.39 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 01:33.52 | mike-bz | anyone have any idea when while trying to upload a zip file (209MB) to vsftpd server it would give permission denied after entering passive mode |
| 01:33.56 | toonX | asg, so after doing all those steps with installing stable .. upgrade to testing .. how will i upgrade just the x server from xfree to xorg ? |
| 01:33.56 | mike-bz | directory is set to 777 |
| 01:34.18 | nullvoid | I am using wu-ftp; how can I restrict my users so that they cannot access their Maildir folder in the /home/user/? |
| 01:34.19 | asg | toonX: apt-get install xserver-xorg (should take care of it) |
| 01:34.28 | Guerin | mike-bz: you don't have write_enable or similar set to YES? |
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| 01:34.59 | Guerin | nullvoid: read the documentation; it's undoubtedly explained therein |
| 01:35.00 | asg | nullvoid: wu-ftp? |
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| 01:35.06 | toonX | asg, that simple .. thank you |
| 01:35.11 | Guerin | why are these people using ftp daemons without clue? |
| 01:35.11 | nullvoid | asg: yes |
| 01:35.14 | caphuso | preventing users from accessing their own emails? |
| 01:35.14 | Pantera | helo |
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| 01:35.27 | chris | thanks again Guerin...do you use R? |
| 01:35.34 | asg | nullvoid: *shudder* |
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| 01:35.42 | thomas | question... |
| 01:35.43 | nullvoid | asg: yes wu-ftp, why |
| 01:35.43 | Guerin | chris: nope. I'm mathematically challenged |
| 01:35.55 | Pantera | Im from Argentina |
| 01:36.00 | chris | i hear that...but i need it for a graduate class |
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| 01:36.08 | Guerin | nullvoid: it stands for Why Use this ftpd? |
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| 01:36.12 | nullvoid | Guerin: I just vet through the doc but seems can't find a way instead of change their home dir |
| 01:36.16 | asg | nullvoid: nevermind |
| 01:36.18 | Pantera | my name is cristian |
| 01:36.29 | Guerin | nullvoid: it doesn't have a denyfile of some kind? Change. |
| 01:36.29 | resiak | nullvoid: So ... change their homedir ! |
| 01:36.32 | asg | mine is Monk de' Willy de Hong |
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| 01:36.45 | Kovecses | does anyone know if there is a way to install gnome 2.10 on sarge? |
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| 01:36.50 | nullvoid | resiak: this server also host their email |
| 01:36.51 | thomas | Need assist with NVIDIA Drivers... PM me if u have been succesful plz... |
| 01:37.01 | resiak | nullvoid: Oh. Change your ftpd! |
| 01:37.02 | Guerin | thomas: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 01:37.06 | asg | toonX: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 01:37.11 | Pantera | Are we speeking spanish????????????????????? |
| 01:37.11 | Guerin | thomas: also /msg dpkg private |
| 01:37.13 | resiak | !pal asg |
| 01:37.14 | resiak | !es |
| 01:37.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:37.30 | elkid | Kovecses: you would compile your own gnome code |
| 01:37.41 | Guerin | nullvoid: that is trivial to do in vsftpd |
| 01:37.45 | Kovecses | elkid, yeah i could do that |
| 01:37.56 | asg | resiak: ;) |
| 01:37.56 | Guerin | nullvoid: why you'd want to do it is, again, another good question. |
| 01:38.05 | asg | s/toonX/thomas/ |
| 01:38.07 | Pantera | OK |
| 01:38.09 | Kovecses | elkid, i was wondering if there were repos |
| 01:38.16 | Pantera | thank |
| 01:38.24 | thomas | danke |
| 01:38.42 | Guerin | Kovecses: google gnome 2.10 debian package |
| 01:38.46 | mike-bz | Guerin: nope, its enabled |
| 01:38.47 | mike-bz | :| |
| 01:38.51 | elkid | Kovecses: i do not think theres a gnome2.10 for "sarge" |
| 01:38.54 | mike-bz | guess I'll just scp it across |
| 01:39.00 | g0rd0n | bill gates is my idol |
| 01:39.13 | Guerin | mike-bz: there might be other things you need to enable. Is it a user, or anonymous, or what? |
| 01:39.15 | dvs | ops kick g0rd0n out |
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| 01:39.22 | mike-bz | user Guerin |
| 01:39.25 | g0rd0n | why |
| 01:39.27 | g0rd0n | i didnt curse |
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| 01:39.33 | Kovecses | elkid, i mean 2.12 |
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| 01:39.43 | thomas | vote... KDE or Gnome? |
| 01:39.44 | elkid | Kovecses: source |
| 01:39.46 | g0rd0n | gnome |
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| 01:39.50 | Guerin | thomas: neither |
| 01:39.54 | nullvoid | Guerin: when user login via ftp they will be in their home dir, but they can access their maildir folder; so I don't want them to play with their mails there |
| 01:39.56 | asg | thomas: neither |
| 01:40.06 | g0rd0n | shell :) |
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| 01:40.08 | asg | Guerin: have fun |
| 01:40.10 | Guerin | nullvoid: i won't ask why not. |
| 01:40.18 | g0rd0n | windows is better for the desktop |
| 01:40.23 | g0rd0n | linux can do all the dirty work instead :P |
| 01:40.32 | asg | !troll g0rd0n |
| 01:40.41 | g0rd0n | lol |
| 01:40.54 | asg | !lol |
| 01:40.54 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line. Everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a Knoppix user. |
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| 01:41.02 | g0rd0n | take it easy its just my opinion |
| 01:41.05 | crazy|| | :D |
| 01:41.13 | elkid | lol |
| 01:41.25 | g0rd0n | whats a troll |
| 01:41.29 | asg | opinions still need to be based on evidence |
| 01:41.30 | g0rd0n | is it that hairy thing? |
| 01:41.31 | resiak | !fgi g0rd0n troll |
| 01:41.31 | dpkg | g0rd0n: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=troll |
| 01:41.57 | g0rd0n | that query parameter is so useless :P |
| 01:42.14 | g0rd0n | perhaps not |
| 01:42.14 | asg | g0rd0n: google for 'jargon file' then search for troll |
| 01:42.29 | abrotman | or use msn |
| 01:42.34 | flowtron | rofl |
| 01:42.37 | g0rd0n | In the context of the Internet, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory messages intended to cause a disruption in discourse. The word is also often used to describe such messages. |
| 01:42.39 | g0rd0n | aha |
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| 01:42.44 | g0rd0n | yeah |
| 01:42.44 | asg | abrotman: 'My First Interweb'? |
| 01:42.46 | g0rd0n | im rock n roll! |
| 01:42.55 | abrotman | asg: something like that :) |
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| 01:43.13 | thomas | i love that... justfuckinggoogleit pure genius |
| 01:43.31 | h_a_l | I've just tried to upgrade from an older "testing" to the latest, and after upgrading glibc, dpkg starts to fail with messages like "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x087e43b0 ***" |
| 01:43.40 | g0rd0n | http://www.iparklikeanidiot.com/ <- this is genius |
| 01:43.47 | g0rd0n | i ordered 40 stickers today |
| 01:43.48 | h_a_l | any thoughts on how to deal with that? |
| 01:43.51 | asg | abrotman: so, has greycat been banned or has he moved on to less stupid pastures? |
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| 01:44.12 | abrotman | asg: not in the list that i see .. though i'd like to know if fieldy is permabanned |
| 01:44.31 | litage | with apache and apache-ssl installed, how can you allow HTTPS and not HTTP? |
| 01:44.36 | toonX | asg, supposing i have a minimal install of debian/stable (no X ) , if i do a dist-upgrade after changing the repos to point to testing , will it install by himself X too ? because i want a clean install of Xorg , i don't want it mixed up with XFree , or will apt-get remove XFree when it installs Xorg ? |
| 01:44.36 | g0rd0n | so where can i get the debian 4.0 beta iso from? |
| 01:44.39 | asg | abrotman: I've been dealing with stupid work shit the last few days, haven't been able to keep up. |
| 01:44.50 | abrotman | asg: different crap .. another day :) |
| 01:44.59 | asg | toonX: no, upgrading will not install X unless you had X to begin with. |
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| 01:45.03 | beardy | g0rd0n: No such thing. |
| 01:45.14 | asg | abrotman: both our load balancers died today so we were scrambling. |
| 01:45.15 | resiak | toonX: So just don't install X in Sarge. |
| 01:45.21 | abrotman | asg: both? |
| 01:45.21 | g0rd0n | i know, i was just trying to get some kind of conversration going ya know.. |
| 01:45.27 | abrotman | asg: hardware devices or linux boxen? |
| 01:45.29 | resiak | Everyone! Apply /ignore! |
| 01:45.29 | asg | abrotman: yes, shitty Radware stuff |
| 01:45.34 | g0rd0n | as sarge doesnt work on my pc... such a shame |
| 01:45.35 | g0rd0n | :P |
| 01:45.49 | beardy | resiak: yeah.. |
| 01:45.52 | toonX | asg, ok got it clear now |
| 01:45.58 | asg | toonX: :) |
| 01:46.18 | elkid | still spam bots arround? |
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| 01:46.25 | h_a_l | anyone? |
| 01:46.26 | abrotman | elkid: yes |
| 01:46.40 | abrotman | h_a_l: so it's broken now >? |
| 01:46.43 | h_a_l | yeah |
| 01:46.45 | resiak | h_a_l: You need a newer libterm-readline-perl . There is a bug filed about this. |
| 01:46.45 | toonX | yeah , im slow thinking :) |
| 01:46.47 | elkid | abrotman: why not someboy take care of it? |
| 01:46.53 | h_a_l | cool. thanks resiak |
| 01:46.56 | abrotman | elkid: if you've a solution .. let staff know |
| 01:47.00 | resiak | h_a_l: The version in Sid is fixed, and installs cleanly in Etch. |
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| 01:47.25 | rabies | hey, whats a good place for sound card reviews? |
| 01:47.25 | elkid | abrotman: :) |
| 01:47.25 | resiak | h_a_l: Sorry, I think I mean libterm-readline-gnu-perl . |
| 01:47.45 | h_a_l | right. I was just about to ask. :) |
| 01:48.07 | resiak | h_a_l: There's a bug filed against both glibc and whichever one of those it is, last time I looked |
| 01:48.16 | LightVision | how can I install acrobat reader for Sarge? |
| 01:48.22 | h_a_l | apparently it's at the latest version...perhaps -perl-perl? |
| 01:48.38 | thomas | Crossover Office |
| 01:48.41 | abrotman | xpdf/gpdf/kpdf |
| 01:48.47 | syuusuke | anyone have software recommendations for my Hauppauge tv tuner? |
| 01:48.51 | resiak | h_a_l: You need to pull it from Sid. packages.debian.org |
| 01:48.53 | thomas | that too |
| 01:49.03 | h_a_l | okay. thanks again. |
| 01:49.03 | thomas | good luck |
| 01:49.11 | bucky | isn't acrobat in contrib? |
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| 01:49.28 | thomas | yep 5 is |
| 01:50.03 | mfrisch | bucky on marillat |
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| 01:50.18 | bucky | LightVision, listen to mfrisch |
| 01:50.22 | LightVision | how can I get Sarge to recognise and use my Cyber DVD+CD-RW combo drive? i use cdrecord scanbus ? |
| 01:50.46 | LightVision | bucky: ok but he hasnt saiud anythingf |
| 01:51.01 | LightVision | mfrisch: whats marillat? |
| 01:51.02 | dvs | cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA |
| 01:51.07 | bucky | LightVision, you didn't look ^^ |
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| 01:51.16 | LightVision | dvs: thanks |
| 01:51.21 | LightVision | bucky: whats marillat? |
| 01:51.28 | libra102 | hello |
| 01:51.35 | dvs | LightVision: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 01:51.36 | bucky | !tell LightVision about marillat |
| 01:52.01 | LightVision | thanks |
| 01:52.08 | litage | after installing apache-ssl, why is there an httpd.conf in /etc/apache/ and /etc/apache-ssl/ ? |
| 01:52.10 | abrotman | resiak: you track etch ? |
| 01:52.42 | resiak | abrotman: With limited Sid bits that are now pretty much all in Etch, yes. |
| 01:52.54 | thomas | how the hell do i get rid of RivaFB support? |
| 01:53.34 | resiak | Just don't use it, or recompile your kernel? |
| 01:53.52 | thomas | i need to remove it to install NVidida Drivers |
| 01:54.06 | beardy | thomas: video=vga16:off appended to the kernel worked/works with vesafb.. |
| 01:54.07 | abrotman | resiak: oh . you did the ABI thing already ? |
| 01:54.14 | resiak | !tell thomas -about nvidia one-liner |
| 01:54.27 | beardy | thomas: video="vga16:off" probably.. |
| 01:54.31 | resiak | abrotman: Not really ... I just don't use much C++ :) |
| 01:54.54 | h_a_l | resiak: that worked. thanks very much for the pointer. |
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| 01:55.29 | resiak | h_a_l: No worries. I was scared by it when it first hit me :) |
| 01:55.52 | bucky | litage, because they're two different daemons |
| 01:56.03 | thomas | resiak... tried that... unfourtunatly the NV compile fails due to the RivaFB support of my 64 bit kerne; |
| 01:56.03 | bucky | use one or the other |
| 01:56.21 | litage | bucky: if i want to only support HTTPS, should i remove all of the apache, and leave the apache-ssl, init scripts? |
| 01:56.39 | bucky | sure.. use apt |
| 01:56.41 | resiak | thomas: Heh, great fun. Maybe you want to build your own kernel. Read the Debian reference's chapter on that. |
| 01:56.56 | thomas | no just disabling it? |
| 01:57.18 | green_earz | LightVision: are you runing the 2.6 kernel ? |
| 01:57.26 | thomas | yep |
| 01:57.31 | resiak | thomas: I don't know. |
| 01:57.35 | thomas | 2.6_x86_64 |
| 01:57.38 | thomas | kk thx |
| 01:58.02 | thomas | dumb n00b kernel question. how do i reconfigure my kernel? |
| 01:58.09 | thomas | just configure no compile |
| 01:58.28 | dvs | thomas: You can only load and unload modules |
| 01:58.45 | thomas | that works |
| 01:59.14 | dvs | thomas: /etc/modules lists the modules that are automatically loaded on startup |
| 01:59.27 | thomas | coll ill try it thx |
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| 02:00.54 | Angel-SL | ? paste |
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| 02:00.57 | Angel-SL | !paste |
| 02:00.57 | dpkg | hmm... paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
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| 02:01.28 | Angel-SL | ANY OPS HERE |
| 02:01.35 | thomas | I'll be back |
| 02:01.36 | abrotman | thomas: modconf |
| 02:01.38 | asg | Angel-SL: why? |
| 02:01.40 | abrotman | Angel-SL: why? |
| 02:01.44 | thomas | hmm... |
| 02:01.44 | dvs | y? |
| 02:01.45 | Angel-SL | paster isnt here? |
| 02:01.54 | bob2 | Angel-SL: ? |
| 02:01.57 | abrotman | Angel-SL: didn't you get banned the other day ? |
| 02:02.00 | Angel-SL | i need to paste |
| 02:02.00 | asg | Angel-SL: paster isn't here because it was used for spamming |
| 02:02.06 | bob2 | Angel-SL: then use #flood |
| 02:02.11 | bob2 | and don't be annoying |
| 02:02.13 | Angel-SL | abrotman, i dodn't? |
| 02:02.15 | abrotman | i thought greycat did .. oh well |
| 02:02.25 | abrotman | Angel-SL: sorry |
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| 02:03.26 | thomas | god Debian rules... "modconf-- bask: modconf: command not found" DAMN "apt-get install modconf" |
| 02:03.53 | ruglia | Out of curiosity, is dpkg open source? really cool bot :p |
| 02:04.01 | asg | ruglia: /msg dpkg blootbot |
| 02:04.04 | beardy | dpkg: what are you |
| 02:04.04 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 02:04.19 | ruglia | Ah cool. :D |
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| 02:04.40 | bob2 | modconf is broken n sid, tho |
| 02:04.42 | orangey | hey all! |
| 02:04.47 | orangey | what file contains my hostname? |
| 02:04.49 | bob2 | ruglia: you can download a dump of the factoid db, too |
| 02:04.51 | abrotman | sid is just all kinds of broken |
| 02:04.53 | asg | orangey: /msg dpkg hostname |
| 02:04.55 | Angel-SL | http://channels.debian.net/paste/660] |
| 02:04.56 | bob2 | orangey: /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, some others |
| 02:04.57 | Angel-SL | http://channels.debian.net/paste/660] |
| 02:05.00 | Angel-SL | http://channels.debian.net/paste/660 |
| 02:05.03 | thomas | im using the testing... can nvr remember which is which |
| 02:05.07 | asg | Angel-SL: chill, we got it the first time |
| 02:05.12 | Angel-SL | cant find the openssl. |
| 02:05.19 | Angel-SL | the ']' |
| 02:05.21 | asg | Angel-SL: libssl-dev |
| 02:05.22 | abrotman | Angel-SL: why are you compiling openssl ? |
| 02:05.27 | bob2 | Angel-SL: why are you compiling openssl at all? |
| 02:05.32 | orangey | bob2: I don't see an /etc/hostname.. and /etc/hosts is normal.. yet my "hostname" changes after I get an IP by dhcp, which screws things up |
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| 02:05.35 | Angel-SL | abrotman, unreal wont detect? |
| 02:05.40 | abrotman | wont' what? |
| 02:05.46 | abrotman | wtf is unreal .. is it in debian ? |
| 02:05.48 | Angel-SL | detct ssl |
| 02:05.52 | asg | orangey: then configure your dhcp client not to change your hostname |
| 02:05.53 | Angel-SL | UNREAL IRCD |
| 02:05.56 | Angel-SL | -caps |
| 02:05.57 | bob2 | please don't tell me you're compiling unreal ircd |
| 02:05.59 | orangey | asg: hehe : ) |
| 02:06.01 | bob2 | Angel-SL: use a less crap ircd |
| 02:06.06 | abrotman | !lose bob2 |
| 02:06.07 | dpkg | bob2: You Lose. |
| 02:06.34 | bob2 | orangey: if you install dhcp3-client, and edit /etc/dhp3/dhclient.conf, you can tell it to not get a hostname fro mthe dhcp server |
| 02:06.40 | abrotman | Angel-SL: libssl-dev |
| 02:06.45 | Angel-SL | !fix bob2 |
| 02:06.50 | bob2 | Angel-SL: oh, stop it |
| 02:06.52 | Angel-SL | ooookkkk |
| 02:06.54 | bob2 | you're using crap and you know it |
| 02:06.59 | asg | orangey: depending on which you use, you can override what the dhcpd sends you. Otherwise, use an 'up' stanza in /etc/network/interfaces to rewrite whatever silliness your dhcp client did. |
| 02:07.08 | bob2 | the unrealircd people are the morons that had a click-through page for their GPL software |
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| 02:07.17 | asg | bob2: hahaha |
| 02:07.17 | bob2 | Angel-SL: anyway, install libssl-dev and build-essential |
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| 02:07.29 | bob2 | Angel-SL: you do not need to compile openssl, and any plan involving that is doomed |
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| 02:07.50 | abrotman | and really bad too |
| 02:07.51 | Angel-SL | '/kill bob2 No reason' |
| 02:07.51 | Angel-SL | i need lilo |
| 02:08.03 | bob2 | Angel-SL: are you going to stop being a git? |
| 02:08.22 | abrotman | Angel-SL: lilo is here |
| 02:08.28 | Angel-SL | bob2, not to /kill you, to get my First level back |
| 02:08.37 | abrotman | first level? |
| 02:08.44 | Angel-SL | support |
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| 02:08.58 | thomas | brb |
| 02:09.02 | thomas | quit |
| 02:09.04 | asg | abrotman: and a limey one |
| 02:09.06 | bob2 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/09/msg00005.html, for the click-through thing |
| 02:09.08 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 02:09.10 | thomas | damn it MUCKing again |
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| 02:09.14 | bob2 | abrotman: it's english, I gather |
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| 02:09.29 | abrotman | that doesn't help me with the definition .. that i imagine it;s akin to wanker |
| 02:09.37 | bob2 | basically |
| 02:09.47 | nvidhive | wanker? |
| 02:09.52 | bob2 | Angel-SL: I told you how to fix it, I'm not sure why you think whinging to a freenode staff member would make your choice of IRCd less bad |
| 02:09.54 | nvidhive | where is the .deb for that one |
| 02:10.04 | asg | nvidhive: in /dev/loo |
| 02:10.08 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:10.08 | nvidhive | hahahah |
| 02:10.25 | bob2 | if you ever have the chance to hear the T.I.S.M. song "whatareya", crank it up |
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| 02:13.04 | sly007 | Hi, my system hangs several times for a few seconds when I'm doing lengty operation (cvs chechout or compile a long project), giving the feeling it is slow. However, when I look at `top`, processes doesn't take more than 30%. This is the first time I have this problem, what might I have changed in the kernel which creates this behavior? |
| 02:13.06 | LightVision | where is the autostart folder located in KDE? |
| 02:13.25 | beardy | Hopefully nowhere.. |
| 02:13.26 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
| 02:13.34 | bob2 | sly007: perhaps it's a disk problem |
| 02:13.35 | LightVision | lol |
| 02:13.39 | bob2 | lack of DMA, maybe? |
| 02:13.41 | alcros | somewhere inside /home/user |
| 02:13.49 | alcros | I guess it is .kde |
| 02:13.58 | alcros | .Autostart I mean |
| 02:14.14 | LightVision | ok |
| 02:14.15 | sly007 | bob2, where do I activate DMA? |
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| 02:15.10 | bob2 | sly007: depends if that is the problem or not |
| 02:15.13 | sly007 | bob2, which flag should I check in .config? |
| 02:15.19 | steelhoof | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.19 | bob2 | sudo hdparm /dev/hda |
| 02:15.24 | beardy | sly007: Should be activated if your hardware supports it, and it's not known to have problems with it. man hdparm, but don't use it AT ALL unless you know what you are doing. |
| 02:15.50 | sly007 | beardy, this is the first time I have this problem, I never had it before |
| 02:15.54 | nvidhive | steelhoof: except we don't stutter when we type |
| 02:16.08 | abrotman | whahwhat do you mean? |
| 02:16.08 | steelhoof | :) |
| 02:16.10 | Libanes | i need to find some defacers |
| 02:16.21 | abrotman | Libanes: find some what ? |
| 02:16.32 | Libanes | defacers |
| 02:16.41 | Libanes | D.Om |
| 02:16.41 | nvidhive | you are looking for defacers in a freenode channel? |
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| 02:16.54 | Libanes | D.O.M |
| 02:17.00 | abrotman | Libanes: defacers for what ? |
| 02:17.06 | nvidhive | he means websites |
| 02:17.08 | asg | abrotman: to deface things |
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| 02:17.20 | Libanes | to deface webs. |
| 02:17.24 | abrotman | so he came to find #debian to find black hat hackers? |
| 02:17.25 | asg | Libanes: efnet is your friend |
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| 02:17.33 | nvidhive | abrotman: basically |
| 02:17.35 | asg | abrotman: even black hats aren't that stupid |
| 02:17.40 | abrotman | hey .. i was just making sure ... before i called ops :) |
| 02:17.55 | abrotman | i thought maybe my feeble american mind was missing something |
| 02:18.01 | abrotman | besides common sense |
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| 02:18.17 | bob2 | Angel-SL: smooth ban evasion there |
| 02:18.21 | bob2 | *totally* undetectable |
| 02:18.36 | abrotman | huh? |
| 02:18.40 | Angel-SL | cant talk |
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| 02:18.46 | Angel-SL | :O |
| 02:18.47 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:18.52 | Angel-SL | wtf |
| 02:18.58 | beardy | indeed |
| 02:19.00 | abrotman | bob2: not gonna be an easy night for you :) |
| 02:19.02 | bob2 | Angel-SL: are you going to be less annoying this time around? |
| 02:19.25 | Angel-SL | i''m just idleing until i have a problem |
| 02:20.12 | Mortalman | Angel-SL: If your that bored.. delete your /etc/inittab and try to recreate it from scratch. |
| 02:20.35 | Angel-SL | ... |
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| 02:20.45 | beardy | Mortalman: Why would you tell him that.. |
| 02:20.57 | nvidhive | hey hey.. no need to resort to fedora flaming in here! |
| 02:21.02 | nvidhive | be nice! |
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| 02:21.58 | lewwy | anyone in here know much about cedega? |
| 02:22.03 | lewwy | or wine, for that matter? |
| 02:22.04 | nvidhive | Mortalman: it goes 'poofka' ! |
| 02:22.23 | litage | when making openssl certificates for various servers, do you make one main/parent certificate for your organization/company, and then make/sign "child" certs to use with, for instance, apache? |
| 02:22.58 | asg | litage: you can but you don't have to |
| 02:23.17 | abrotman | make-ssl-cert |
| 02:23.19 | litage | asg: are there advantages of doing that? |
| 02:23.45 | asg | litage: only if you can easily install the CA cert on to all client machines in the company |
| 02:23.47 | Mortalman | nvidhive: poofka ? |
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| 02:24.12 | nvidhive | Mortalman: like 'sploding an shtuff! |
| 02:24.22 | litage | asg: so the main/parent cert is called a certificate authority cert? |
| 02:24.34 | nvidhive | eww |
| 02:24.41 | asg | linuxg0d: nobody cares |
| 02:24.45 | abrotman | haha |
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| 02:24.58 | abrotman | why do you think g0d has a zero in it ... |
| 02:25.02 | asg | litage: basically. |
| 02:25.06 | linuxg0d | asg, when you grow up you should care |
| 02:25.17 | asg | linuxg0d: please |
| 02:25.30 | abrotman | i'm waiting for some godliness |
| 02:25.30 | Mortalman | hehehe |
| 02:25.32 | litage | asg: so with the CA cert installed on each user's machine, any "child" cert is automatically accepted? |
| 02:25.38 | asg | litage: yes |
| 02:26.04 | litage | asg: and if you don't use a CA cert, what happens? |
| 02:26.12 | asg | not even the weekend and #debian has become #teletubbies |
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| 02:26.27 | Guerin | litage: you can't create child certs without a CA cert of some kind |
| 02:26.30 | asg | litage: the clients will be alerted to the fact that you are using a self signed cert |
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| 02:26.34 | nvidhive | #teletubbies! |
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| 02:26.41 | Guerin | litage: many people get, for example, verisign to do it for them |
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| 02:27.05 | nvidhive | dey is me mortal nemesis! |
| 02:27.23 | GoatRoby | vim-ruby, vim-perl, vim-python.... what does it mean when vim is compiled with these scripting support? |
| 02:27.25 | nvidhive | they steal my tv and shove them in their tummies! |
| 02:27.40 | nvidhive | grr |
| 02:27.42 | litage | nvidhive: better cook'em up and eat'em |
| 02:27.45 | asg | GoatRoby: it means you can extend vim with x (where 'x' is ruby, perl, or python) |
| 02:27.52 | lewwy | does anyone here know much about wine and steam? |
| 02:27.56 | nvidhive | litage: good call |
| 02:27.59 | GoatRoby | asg: like write pluggins for it? |
| 02:28.06 | abrotman | call me an athiest .. but i'm not seeing any godliness ... |
| 02:28.07 | CaT[tm] | verisign. their prices make rampant greed look in control. |
| 02:28.15 | asg | lewwy: wine is good with cheese |
| 02:28.22 | asg | GoatRoby: something like that |
| 02:28.23 | lewwy | asg, don't be like that, cmon |
| 02:28.35 | lewwy | asg, seriously, can you help me? |
| 02:28.37 | litage | asg: what are certs that are created/signed by a CA cert called? |
| 02:28.37 | asg | lewwy: then provide more context and stop being vague |
| 02:28.38 | GoatRoby | asg: cool i'll probably never need it.. just want normal vim and gvim... so i'll install vim-full |
| 02:28.41 | lewwy | ok, sorry |
| 02:28.49 | Guerin | lewwy: #winehq |
| 02:28.57 | lewwy | wow |
| 02:28.58 | lewwy | thanks man |
| 02:29.01 | lewwy | never knew that existed |
| 02:29.12 | Guerin | steam isn't in debian, because it's proprietary ... so good luck |
| 02:29.24 | GoatRoby | lewwy: consider winex ... it goes under a different name |
| 02:29.35 | GoatRoby | which i can't remember |
| 02:29.42 | asg | GoatRoby: cedega |
| 02:29.43 | bob2 | cedega |
| 02:29.45 | GoatRoby | that's the one |
| 02:29.48 | bob2 | and now we're full circle |
| 02:29.53 | lewwy | cedega |
| 02:29.54 | lewwy | ok |
| 02:29.55 | beardy | WHich also is proprietary. |
| 02:29.58 | lewwy | i'll rent out my games |
| 02:30.02 | lewwy | so I have to pay money monthly |
| 02:30.09 | nvidhive | I thought cedega cost monies |
| 02:30.14 | abrotman | it does |
| 02:30.17 | nvidhive | ok.. nevermind |
| 02:30.18 | GoatRoby | no, it costs money |
| 02:30.18 | Guerin | if you want gamex0rz, buy a console |
| 02:30.20 | GoatRoby | not monies :P |
| 02:30.24 | nvidhive | monies! |
| 02:30.28 | GoatRoby | ok fine, monies |
| 02:30.30 | GoatRoby | :) |
| 02:30.33 | nvidhive | :) |
| 02:30.35 | asg | Guerin: or use that Windows license that you have hanging around |
| 02:30.40 | lewwy | ah |
| 02:30.41 | lewwy | touche |
| 02:30.48 | GoatRoby | yeah, i just dual boot win and debian |
| 02:30.49 | GoatRoby | for games |
| 02:31.00 | lewwy | its just, by the time you buy turbo print and cedega, its pretty costly |
| 02:31.02 | Guerin | i just don't bother playing gamez |
| 02:31.04 | lewwy | window no likely my computer |
| 02:31.08 | lewwy | likey* |
| 02:31.08 | Guerin | i could go to a pc room, i suppose |
| 02:31.18 | GoatRoby | my win license is purchased through my workplace so it's all nice and legal |
| 02:31.18 | Guerin | cheaper than buying a gaming rig, and you get free coffee |
| 02:31.19 | resiak | Let's all google for cvscedega ! |
| 02:31.24 | lewwy | linux lovely my computer |
| 02:31.28 | GoatRoby | windows doesn't like your computer? |
| 02:31.29 | asg | Guerin: in pc rooms, you'll be known as 'man-friend Guerin' |
| 02:31.37 | lewwy | yeh, it gets to the end of the loading bar and dies |
| 02:31.38 | Guerin | asg: ... |
| 02:31.42 | lewwy | i have to reinstall monthly |
| 02:31.57 | asg | Guerin: nevermind, a joke that only my cat and I laughed at. |
| 02:32.14 | asg | Guerin: besides, aren't you supposed to be working? |
| 02:32.23 | abrotman | asg: he's just teaching |
| 02:32.35 | lewwy | Mac OS X < > Linux ? |
| 02:32.41 | asg | abrotman: ah, test time |
| 02:32.55 | resiak | lewwy: What do you _think_ #debian is going to say? /msg dpkg polls |
| 02:33.03 | asg | lewwy: there's a crinkly vagina between OS X and Linux? |
| 02:33.03 | abrotman | lewwy: not a valid statement |
| 02:33.04 | lewwy | ah |
| 02:33.04 | lewwy | touche |
| 02:33.10 | lewwy | ah here come the C coders |
| 02:33.32 | lewwy | ah |
| 02:33.32 | lewwy | ok |
| 02:33.34 | lewwy | gotcha |
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| 02:35.27 | nvidhive | lewwy: why do you want to use wine? I mean for what type of app? |
| 02:35.38 | lewwy | i want to use it for steam, nvidhive |
| 02:35.43 | resiak | nvidhive: Steam is a gaming thing. |
| 02:35.47 | nvidhive | oh |
| 02:35.51 | lewwy | but winehq isnt responding to my questions, so yeh |
| 02:35.56 | nvidhive | I was gonna say Qemu is free |
| 02:36.04 | nvidhive | but that would be slow as hell |
| 02:36.13 | resiak | It's good enough for SimTower ;) |
| 02:36.23 | nvidhive | really? |
| 02:36.26 | nvidhive | cool |
| 02:36.27 | asg | good enough for Outlook |
| 02:36.34 | nvidhive | yeah.. definately |
| 02:36.35 | resiak | SimTower is about 15 years old. |
| 02:36.39 | nvidhive | oh |
| 02:36.42 | lewwy | hehehe |
| 02:36.50 | lewwy | hey, i just installed moon-buggy |
| 02:36.53 | lewwy | what do i type to run it |
| 02:37.00 | beardy | Take a guess.. |
| 02:37.04 | asg | lewwy: at a guess, 'moon-buggy' |
| 02:37.12 | asg | lewwy: or dpkg -L <pkg> | grep bin |
| 02:37.15 | lewwy | OMG THANKS |
| 02:37.15 | lewwy | nah |
| 02:37.17 | lewwy | tried that man |
| 02:37.17 | lewwy | no go |
| 02:37.36 | asg | lewwy: s/bin/games/ |
| 02:38.01 | lewwy | s? |
| 02:38.04 | lewwy | asg, /s/ |
| 02:38.05 | lewwy | ? |
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| 02:38.35 | asg | lewwy: man 7 regex |
| 02:38.40 | streamerr | hi |
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| 02:38.57 | asg | lewwy: or if you have perl-doc installed, man perlre |
| 02:39.10 | lewwy | does s stand for usr? |
| 02:39.12 | lewwy | or something? |
| 02:39.17 | asg | lewwy: substitute |
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| 02:39.46 | asg | lewwy: it's common IRC idiom that goes back 15 years or so, maybe longer |
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| 02:39.55 | romulo | anyone knows in shell scripting on print a choosen line of a file only? like with cat but choosing the line number |
| 02:40.08 | asg | romulo: sed can do it, as can awk |
| 02:40.31 | romulo | asg, you know how? in awk i dont know the line var to pass to |
| 02:40.35 | romulo | and sed i never tried |
| 02:41.20 | asg | romulo: sed -n 3p <file> (print 3rd line) |
| 02:41.27 | nvidhive | asg: longer.. before the dawn of time.. |
| 02:41.34 | romulo | ah thanks asg =) |
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| 02:41.50 | asg | nvidhive: *nod* |
| 02:42.48 | nvidhive | ok.. well I receive no response in open-xchange.. anyone got open-xchange running in sarge? |
| 02:43.03 | nvidhive | and difficulty/horror stories? |
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| 02:43.47 | nvidhive | understood, soldiers |
| 02:43.49 | Zenethian | How do I get apt to shut up about unverifyable packages? |
| 02:43.51 | nvidhive | carry on |
| 02:43.58 | asg | Zenethian: /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 02:44.26 | Zenethian | Thank ya sir |
| 02:44.35 | asg | you're welcome |
| 02:44.39 | nvidhive | oooh.. you got a sir! |
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| 02:44.45 | nvidhive | asg must be speshul |
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| 02:44.52 | asg | nvidhive: now and again, I get karma |
| 02:44.54 | CVirus | if I chmod 777 /var/www/html/anything .. how can anyone write on it ? |
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| 02:45.05 | nvidhive | asg: can you exchange that for cash? |
| 02:45.22 | asg | nvidhive: karma and cash are mutually exclusive |
| 02:45.36 | nvidhive | mue-tue.. |
| 02:45.38 | asg | CVirus: with an editor (i.e. vi) |
| 02:46.13 | peterS | CVirus: HTTP upload? |
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| 02:46.41 | CVirus | peterS: the permisions arent set for the whole directory but for certain files only |
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| 02:46.59 | peterS | CVirus: you'd better check to see if your web server supports file uploads then |
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| 02:47.46 | CVirus | asg: how can he use an editor ? |
| 02:48.01 | asg | CVirus: ssh he@server; vi /path/to/file |
| 02:48.09 | peterS | CVirus: put it this way. permissions management via web server configuration is a lot more cumbersome than permissions management via unix. why would you force yourself to do the former? |
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| 02:48.15 | CVirus | asg: what if he doesnt have ssh access ? |
| 02:48.26 | asg | CVirus: there's also WebDAV and (*shudder*) FTP |
| 02:48.32 | odat | anyone able to help with a grapics chip problem? |
| 02:48.39 | Zenethian | geh, I followed the whole guide and it still bitches. hrm |
| 02:48.44 | abrotman | odat: you must describe it |
| 02:48.51 | peterS | CVirus: most web hosting providers provide FTP. do you really want to have to configure your FTP server to reject write attempts inside /var/www/whatever? |
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| 02:49.43 | odat | well when i use glxinfo|grep -i ^direct |
| 02:49.53 | CVirus | peterS: http://82.201.178.106/ ... can u write on anything there ? |
| 02:50.05 | odat | i get direct rendering: No |
| 02:50.05 | odat | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.42 | abrotman | odat: and you have nvidia ? |
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| 02:51.07 | abrotman | why is he electric? |
| 02:51.07 | nvidhive | Zenethian: just like my girly!.. when I got her the instructions said.. "nice girl".. but we all know... |
| 02:51.16 | litage | why would you want to remove the passphrase from an openssl key? |
| 02:51.17 | odat | abrotman: no an S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] |
| 02:51.25 | asg | abrotman: kismet |
| 02:51.30 | abrotman | !unichrome |
| 02:51.30 | dpkg | somebody said unichrome was the graphics core found on many recent VIA chipsets. Namely, VIA CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400. See http://unichrome.sf.net/ or bother libv. |
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| 02:51.38 | abrotman | odat: like that ? |
| 02:51.52 | asg | litage: so you didn't have to be there when the server that used it restarted in the middle of the night to type the passphrase in |
| 02:52.02 | thomas | damn it all! i got rid of Riva and the nvidia install reports it is still says it is installed |
| 02:52.07 | litage | ah =P |
| 02:52.09 | odat | abrotman: like ? |
| 02:52.13 | asg | litage: it's risk/management issue |
| 02:52.14 | thomas | HOW THE F* do i get rid of it? |
| 02:52.20 | abrotman | !tell odat about unichrome |
| 02:52.23 | peterS | abrotman: latest xorg has a merge from unichrome.sf.net |
| 02:52.34 | abrotman | peterS: you assume he's running sid ? |
| 02:52.40 | peterS | just sayin' |
| 02:52.48 | resiak | Hmm. d-r x-x asks about the amount of memory to be used by the card. Now, I have an integrated video chip and suspect that I should fill this in (but have never before). Is there any way to know what the correct image should be ? |
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| 02:52.52 | abrotman | odat: xfree or xorg ? |
| 02:53.00 | resiak | abrotman: xorg is in Etch. |
| 02:53.00 | peterS | resiak: ignore it, that's a dumb question |
| 02:53.09 | nvidhive | hmm.. I like this channel.. not too serious.. but helpful... |
| 02:53.11 | odat | hmmm doesn't look like km266/kl266 is one of those though |
| 02:53.14 | peterS | resiak: for modern cards and modern drivers this is always autodetected |
| 02:53.15 | nvidhive | you guys have a good night |
| 02:53.17 | ricky_clarkson | !etch |
| 02:53.17 | dpkg | etch is, like, the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 02:53.22 | asg | nvidhive: you as well |
| 02:53.29 | resiak | peterS: Hmm... I mean, it mentions i810 and I have i855... But you're probably right. It's always worked before :) |
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| 02:53.39 | odat | besides the graphics drivers are loaded just apparently not doing what they should be doing |
| 02:53.49 | abrotman | odat: lspci says what about it ? |
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| 02:54.00 | peterS | he said already, it's an S3 ProSavage |
| 02:54.07 | ricky_clarkson | I currently use a Cisco VPN client to get remote access to the machine I'm IRCing from... |
| 02:54.18 | abrotman | peterS: that good enough :) |
| 02:54.21 | abrotman | err not |
| 02:54.26 | ricky_clarkson | In Windows, the VPN client takes over the whole networking thing, so ALL apps use the tunnel. |
| 02:54.30 | cheal | Cisco VPN client? argh... |
| 02:54.37 | abrotman | peterS: could be any number of variations |
| 02:54.43 | odat | abrotman: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] |
| 02:54.46 | peterS | abrotman: he actually said <odat> abrotman: no an S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] |
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| 02:54.54 | asg | abrotman: pwned |
| 02:54.57 | ricky_clarkson | I also have a Linux Cisco VPN client, but I haven't tried it yet. Is it possible that I could choose which apps use the tunnel? |
| 02:55.05 | abrotman | !prize peterS |
| 02:55.10 | peterS | w00t |
| 02:55.17 | asg | damn, I never get the yogi pin |
| 02:55.23 | Mortalman_ | lol |
| 02:55.23 | thomas | NVIDAI Drivers on Etch help plz |
| 02:55.25 | abrotman | !prize asg |
| 02:55.31 | asg | woohoo |
| 02:55.36 | abrotman | dpkg: bow before me |
| 02:55.44 | abrotman | yeah .. that worked |
| 02:55.44 | Mortalman_ | !prize Mortalman_ |
| 02:55.45 | ricky_clarkson | thomas: Only when you can spell NVIDIA. |
| 02:55.51 | thomas | lol oops |
| 02:55.51 | Mortalman_ | damn |
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| 02:55.54 | thomas | NVIDIA Drivers on Etch help plz |
| 02:55.56 | abrotman | odat: i don't see it in the xfree docs either |
| 02:56.03 | abrotman | odat: http://xfree86.org/4.4.0/savage.4.html |
| 02:56.03 | ricky_clarkson | !nvidia |
| 02:56.03 | dpkg | nvidia is probably DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 02:56.11 | abrotman | odat: xfree or xorg on your system ? |
| 02:56.15 | odat | xorg |
| 02:57.29 | asg | abrotman: onionbooty.com is a good choice |
| 02:57.54 | thomas | ricky-clarckson: ive tried that already... It says i have RivaFB drivers even after i have removed them |
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| 02:58.27 | abrotman | odat: http://x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/savage.4.html .. i don't see it there either |
| 02:58.34 | abrotman | i hate s3 |
| 02:58.36 | abrotman | !s3 |
| 02:58.36 | dpkg | Tried, tested, and reliable cards.</sarcasm>, or <abrotman> the cards suck ..bad .. like waking up next to your mother after a hard night of drinking <pipeline> I disagree. ... It's more like coming-to ON TOP of your mother. |
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| 02:58.55 | odat | lol |
| 02:59.05 | abrotman | peterS: you said 6.9 has unichrome .. or 6.8 ? |
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| 02:59.24 | peterS | abrotman: I mean the latest debian upload, 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 |
| 02:59.33 | odat | i was wondering why the system seems so slow on this machine when switching apps and redrawing windows |
| 02:59.36 | abrotman | peterS: it's not in the upstream afaict |
| 02:59.41 | peterS | abrotman: the merge happened debian-side, not upstream-side |
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| 02:59.51 | thomas | ricky-clarckson: ive tried that already... It says i have RivaFB drivers even after i have removed them |
| 02:59.52 | ryan` | anyone know of a search engine that can search for strings containing symbols? |
| 02:59.56 | abrotman | peterS: i will kill! |
| 03:00.00 | peterS | this according to the changelog I was reading the other day. let me check again |
| 03:00.18 | ryan` | i.e. that knows the diffrence between "apt-get" and "apt get" |
| 03:00.28 | abrotman | peterS: i'd say to ask gravity .. but he's never around! |
| 03:00.35 | peterS | abrotman: * patches/general/000_stolen_from_unichrome.sf.net.diff: Fixed a cut-and-paste error when checking mode->Flags for sync polarity in via_mode.c. |
| 03:00.35 | geneo93 | i need some help with tape drive anyone up on them |
| 03:00.46 | asg | abrotman: he's been around quite a bit lately though (and in #debian-x) |
| 03:00.57 | abrotman | peterS: i'm not sure that's the driver .. or just a single bug |
| 03:00.58 | peterS | abrotman: guess that doesn't imply that the 'stolen from unichrome.sf.net' is the *latest* version, just that it was stolen from there at some point in the past, and a bug was fixed |
| 03:01.02 | abrotman | asg: i was joking! |
| 03:01.06 | asg | abrotman: :p |
| 03:01.14 | peterS | abrotman: it does imply that it's using a newer unichrome driver than xorg upstream is |
| 03:01.33 | abrotman | peterS: why .. it's just via_mode.c .. could just be a bug fix |
| 03:01.58 | thomas | locate riva.ko |
| 03:02.01 | peterS | abrotman: you're missing the significance of the *existence* of a patch called 000_stolen_from_unichrome.sf.net.diff |
| 03:02.05 | thomas | damn it all wrong window |
| 03:02.09 | asg | peterS: :) |
| 03:02.18 | abrotman | peterS: yes .. but it could be a single line ... |
| 03:02.22 | odat | should i reconfigure using unicrome? |
| 03:02.25 | peterS | abrotman: what do you think that patch is, if not a newer version of the unichrome driver than exists in x.org upstream? |
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| 03:02.36 | abrotman | it says it fixed cut and paste problem |
| 03:02.37 | abrotman | afaict |
| 03:02.51 | abrotman | gravity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:02.53 | bsd3 | hi, friends! |
| 03:03.05 | asg | abrotman: sing the anti-gravity love song |
| 03:03.16 | bsd3 | anyone out there from Debian VoIP Team? |
| 03:03.16 | abrotman | !sing gravity |
| 03:03.16 | dpkg | Gravity, you just pull me down so quietly; you just pull me back... |
| 03:03.24 | peterS | abrotman: yes, 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 fixed a cut/paste problem. the patch existed before that though |
| 03:03.27 | abrotman | there's a debian voip team ? |
| 03:03.33 | abrotman | !sing asg |
| 03:03.33 | dpkg | boom o~/ |
| 03:03.35 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:03.39 | abrotman | !sing peters |
| 03:03.40 | asg | rim-shot |
| 03:03.45 | abrotman | peterS: you need a song! |
| 03:03.50 | peterS | I don't *need* a song |
| 03:04.00 | peterS | I don't live on drury lane |
| 03:04.03 | asg | hah |
| 03:04.04 | resiak | !sing g4lt |
| 03:04.04 | dpkg | sometimes he p4rks in h4ndic4pped sp4ces, while h4ndic4pped people m4ke h4ndic4pped f4ces, g4lt's 4n 4ssshoooole... |
| 03:04.04 | abrotman | of the ones i've seen anyways |
| 03:04.10 | resiak | Hahah |
| 03:04.23 | thomas | someone I need advanced assistance on NVIDIA Drivers |
| 03:04.27 | thomas | please |
| 03:04.34 | abrotman | buy intel ? |
| 03:04.38 | peterS | dude, he learned to spell nvidia |
| 03:04.39 | deadcat | only basic here thomas |
| 03:04.41 | thomas | lol |
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| 03:04.48 | deadcat | thomas: you on your own |
| 03:04.57 | thomas | kk thx anyway |
| 03:05.12 | nvz | peterS: literally? |
| 03:05.14 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd0 |
| 03:05.15 | dpkg | somebody said qotd99 was <t-jack> I have a 17-inch dysfunctional $Piece_Of_Hardware... |
| 03:05.19 | abrotman | thomas: did you try the nvidia one liner ? |
| 03:05.36 | thomas | yah... it says RivaFB sainity check Fails |
| 03:05.47 | bsd3 | abrotman: Yes, I'm sure it is 'Debian VoIP Team', the one who maintains OpenH323 Libs packages and Ohphone |
| 03:06.03 | abrotman | bsd3: oh .. probably not .. |
| 03:06.03 | ricky_clarkson | Oh, phone! |
| 03:06.09 | abrotman | bsd3: got a pckage name ? |
| 03:06.18 | abrotman | ricky_clarkson: you know .. the thing you have that never rings |
| 03:06.23 | nvz | heh |
| 03:06.29 | ricky_clarkson | Oh, phone, you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my... |
| 03:06.36 | peterS | best and newest is qotd52, btw. |
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| 03:06.38 | asg | abrotman: it rings in a different way in Blighty |
| 03:06.38 | abrotman | this is why ricky_clarkson does computers |
| 03:06.39 | nvz | I got two of em and neither rings cause I shut it off |
| 03:06.46 | abrotman | asg: vibrator mode? |
| 03:06.48 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: It does! I get 15 cold sales calls per day! |
| 03:07.03 | asg | peterS: that's a good one |
| 03:07.09 | ricky_clarkson | abrotman: I've been 'doing' computers since before the masses had mobile phones. |
| 03:07.15 | peterS | asg: I pulled it out of my personal quotes file a couple weeks ago and fed it to dpkg |
| 03:07.17 | abrotman | peterS: no .. this one is the best ... |
| 03:07.17 | nvz | exactly why I leave my phone off |
| 03:07.18 | asg | abrotman: nah, just rings the *other* way |
| 03:07.25 | abrotman | !qotd147 |
| 03:07.25 | dpkg | qotd147 is probably <alcros> sorry, I was trying to read the guidelines |
| 03:07.28 | abrotman | peterS: top that |
| 03:07.34 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: I don't really get cold calls. |
| 03:07.50 | ricky_clarkson | Here's a good way of getting rid of them.. |
| 03:07.51 | peterS | abrotman: I guess I don't get it |
| 03:07.52 | asg | peterS: nice (it's made it into my qotd -> fortune also) |
| 03:07.58 | ricky_clarkson | "Do you know this is a premium line?" |
| 03:07.59 | nvz | I really dont like the phone. even when its someone I know |
| 03:08.01 | abrotman | peterS: Who reads the guidelines ... get it ? :) |
| 03:08.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:08.31 | nvz | heh |
| 03:08.45 | abrotman | peterS: we are not codfish! |
| 03:08.46 | peterS | thanks, nvz. we need more people like you in this world |
| 03:09.31 | abrotman | bah .. i gotta go to a client tomorrow .. no fun |
| 03:09.42 | asg | peterS: I could say something very mean and debasing but I won't. I promise. |
| 03:09.59 | peterS | asg: it's ok, I won't take offense because I won't realise it's mean-spirited and directed towards me |
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| 03:10.09 | nvz | I like visiting clients especially when they have stuff for me to do.. even better when I can do it quickly and charge them insanely |
| 03:10.29 | asg | peterS: it wasn't. In another light, ...one Sheltenack's Juppleberry shrub is a more mauvy shade of pinky russet. |
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| 03:10.51 | peterS | asg: I have no doubt that this is true |
| 03:11.05 | asg | night a |
| 03:11.11 | peterS | see you, brotman |
| 03:11.25 | peterS | of drury lane |
| 03:11.27 | abrotman | !sing abrotman |
| 03:11.28 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
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| 03:11.53 | xixor | yo |
| 03:12.03 | nvz | dpkg, abrotman? |
| 03:12.03 | dpkg | well, abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 03:12.45 | mwilson_ | Huh... sodipodi's been abandoned? |
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| 03:14.24 | linner | hey ya'll... how's everyone??? |
| 03:15.10 | xixor | good man |
| 03:15.16 | ricky_clarkson | Fine and diddle-ee-andy. |
| 03:15.26 | xixor | right-o-rooney neighborino |
| 03:15.34 | linner | wooo hooo! |
| 03:16.08 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: That kind of weapon doesn't come cheap. |
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| 03:16.15 | mwilson_ | I *really* wish there was a package state "ignore", that said a package was NEVER allowed to be installed... |
| 03:16.20 | peterS | "My god, it's full of * " |
| 03:16.26 | zinx | mwilson_: pin it at 0? |
| 03:16.37 | xixor | whats a ricky clarkson? |
| 03:16.43 | ricky_clarkson | xixor: One of me. |
| 03:16.44 | paroneayea | google hasn'tturned anything up... can anyone figure what the problem might be which spawned this? |
| 03:16.52 | paroneayea | wacom: version magic '2.6.11-1-686 686 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.11-1-686 686 gcc-3.3' |
| 03:16.53 | xixor | ricky_clarkson : ah. I see. |
| 03:16.55 | mwilson_ | zinx: "pin it at 0" is a nonsense statement. |
| 03:16.57 | odat | abrotman: will you take a look at something for me to see if its relevant? |
| 03:16.59 | nvz | luckily I got 3 mice on this synergy station.. I just normally only use one.. but others are there incase ricky_clarkson steals one |
| 03:17.10 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: Tried mousetraps? |
| 03:17.10 | peterS | xixor: nobody knows how many ricky_clarcksa there are in the world. there've been sightings... |
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| 03:17.12 | zinx | mwilson_: sorry, pin it at something less than zero |
| 03:17.21 | zinx | mwilson_: or do you not use apt? |
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| 03:17.24 | odat | oops hes not here |
| 03:17.28 | peterS | hmmm, ricky_clarksa, even |
| 03:17.29 | ricky_clarkson | peterS: There is at least one other Ricky Clarkson, a baseball player in American college leagues. |
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| 03:17.36 | xixor | ricky_clarkson : no one can be told what a ricky_clarkson is |
| 03:17.39 | ricky_clarkson | peterS: There is a Richard Clarkson insurance company. |
| 03:17.43 | peterS | neat |
| 03:17.48 | mwilson_ | zinx: Exactly how do you propose to pin a package that isn't installed? |
| 03:17.56 | zinx | mwilson_: i'm sure you of all people don't need me to tell you this, however, i will anyway. man 5 apt_preferences |
| 03:17.59 | ricky_clarkson | mwilson_: With imagination? |
| 03:18.14 | zinx | mwilson_: since when do pins have to be for installed packages? or even packages, for that matter? |
| 03:18.15 | ricky_clarkson | mwilson_: You could possibly pin an equivs-made version of the package. |
| 03:18.23 | peterS | zinx: no no no. tell him he would know if he could only bother to read the apt_preferences manpage, or if he knew how to read at all |
| 03:18.26 | peterS | zinx: that's more his language |
| 03:18.31 | nvz | heh |
| 03:18.33 | nvz | sure is |
| 03:18.35 | zinx | peterS: :/ |
| 03:18.41 | zinx | peterS: it's not me, though ;) |
| 03:18.47 | mwilson_ | peterS: <shrug> Wouldn't bother me at all. If the answer is there, that's where the finger should point. |
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| 03:19.26 | peterS | zinx: or I guess you could ask what, besides nothing, being installed has to do with being pinned |
| 03:19.37 | nvz | yeah thats more like it |
| 03:19.44 | mwilson_ | peterS: The difference is, I know perfectly well I can read... whether someone thinks I can or can't is simply irrelevant. |
| 03:20.28 | mwilson_ | peterS: You have to choose what opinions matter, and what do not. |
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| 03:21.11 | nvz | dpkg, opinions |
| 03:21.11 | dpkg | opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, they all stink, and it's really not polite to air yours in public, or be prepared to defend yours if you do show it in #debian. Your opinion, not your arsehole. Well, maybe both. |
| 03:21.42 | peterS | hmm, the factoid can't decide whether it's English or American |
| 03:21.47 | Mortalman_ | Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders. |
| 03:21.54 | asg | peterS: equal opportunity |
| 03:21.57 | nvz | heh |
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| 03:22.28 | ricky_clarkson | !opinions =~ s/assholes/a(rse|ss)holes/ |
| 03:22.28 | dpkg | OK, ricky_clarkson |
| 03:22.35 | ricky_clarkson | !opinions =~ s/arseholes/a(rse|ss)holes/ |
| 03:22.36 | dpkg | that doesn't contain 'arseholes', ricky_clarkson |
| 03:22.42 | ricky_clarkson | !opinions =~ s/arsehole/a(rse|ss)hole/ |
| 03:22.42 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: OK |
| 03:22.46 | ricky_clarkson | !opinions |
| 03:22.46 | dpkg | opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, they all stink, and it's really not polite to air yours in public, or be prepared to defend yours if you do show it in #debian. Your opinion, not your arsehole. Well, maybe both. |
| 03:22.57 | ricky_clarkson | Yay, dpkg obviously has the right idea. |
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| 03:23.07 | peterS | I should be doing something right now. hmmm. fix subversion, study Italian vocabulary. one or t'other. |
| 03:23.12 | mwilson_ | But I still don |
| 03:23.16 | nvz | Mortalman: what the hell does that have to do with the price of gas? |
| 03:23.40 | asg | peterS: (: |
| 03:23.41 | Mortalman | nvz: Are you serious? It's the root cause! |
| 03:23.43 | Mortalman | hehe |
| 03:24.00 | ricky_clarkson | 3/4 of the price of petrol is tax in the UK. |
| 03:24.01 | lex | Heyas guys,.... im having trouble moving a mysql 3.23.49 to a 4.0.x ... it seems the create tables and many other statements are not compatible. What would be a good doc to refer to? |
| 03:24.10 | peterS | asg: honestly they're both a bit daunting to me, and they both have this air of "you know I really *should* be able to handle this" |
| 03:24.51 | peterS | Mortalman: I hope the sugar and caffeine didn't get into your gas, then |
| 03:25.17 | asg | peterS: I gave up on subversion after attempting to import our Moodle source tree. Italian I could probably handle since Latin wasn't that tough. |
| 03:25.21 | peterS | carbonated water isn't too good for gasoline engines either, come to think of it |
| 03:25.29 | Mortalman | hehe |
| 03:25.44 | nvz | yeah I was gonna go put some sugar in tough guys motorcycle for acting like a hard ass the other day.. so I can watch him have to tear the whole thing apart |
| 03:25.45 | peterS | asg: I'm not sure whether to be surprised at the similarities I'm seeing between Italian and Latin, or not |
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| 03:26.03 | peterS | nvz: balance, my friend. a sense of balance. |
| 03:26.05 | deadcat | how do i watch tv with mplayer? the options arent working right fo rme |
| 03:26.39 | Guerin | nvz: and you say it's just your young friends who do stupid and irresponsible things |
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| 03:26.53 | lex | So... .how do i move a database in 3.23 to 4.0 ? |
| 03:26.55 | nvz | Guerin: heh |
| 03:27.06 | Guerin | deadcat: point mplayer to the tv file |
| 03:27.12 | asg | peterS: they are compatible because vowel elision hasn't affected them. Old English and modern German sound the same which can be a bit disconcerting. |
| 03:27.15 | peterS | deadcat: is it able to use gstreamer? you could hook in the gstreamer v4l plugin |
| 03:27.23 | nvz | I didn't do it thought I just considered it |
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| 03:27.41 | deadcat | Guerin: peterS i just mplayer tv://4 and nothing. only green |
| 03:27.50 | mwilson_ | And no, a negative pin doesn't stop an explicit 'install' operation. |
| 03:27.52 | peterS | asg: yeah, it also helps that Italian verb infinitives tend to end in -are or -ere or similar. sometimes you get the exact same infinitive as the latin |
| 03:27.53 | lex | Ah the reference manual |
| 03:27.55 | Guerin | deadcat: fix your tv card? |
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| 03:28.05 | deadcat | Guerin: works with effectv and tvtime |
| 03:28.13 | asg | peterS: true. |
| 03:28.18 | Guerin | deadcat: ask #mplayer then |
| 03:28.20 | deadcat | Guerin: by the way.. tvtime is 100% when i use the shit. |
| 03:28.25 | deadcat | Guerin: those fucks dont know. i asked. |
| 03:28.40 | Guerin | deadcat: oh well. 100% of what? |
| 03:28.41 | peterS | asg: and first person indicative is often -o |
| 03:28.55 | deadcat | Guerin: cpu |
| 03:28.59 | nvz | I was standing about 6 inches off the curb the other day and the idiot pulls up behind me and yells out the window for me to get out the road before he runs me over. he's been here maybe a year.. I've been here for like 20years.. who the hell is he to tell me where I can stand. Not to mention I would just sue his ass if he runs me over |
| 03:29.00 | mwilson_ | Hrm... there has to be a way to make sure that udev never gets installed... |
| 03:29.00 | Guerin | deadcat: hah |
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| 03:29.24 | Guerin | nvz: how do you know how long he's been 'here'? |
| 03:29.41 | nvz | Guerin: because I have the county files I know where everyone is and has been |
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| 03:29.47 | asg | peterS: for masculine, not feminine right (I could be wrong, Latin was a loooong time ago.) |
| 03:29.50 | peterS | mwilson_: you can create your own dummy package, Essential: yes, Conflicts: udev, using 'equivs'. and install that |
| 03:29.56 | Guerin | nvz: wtf |
| 03:30.02 | mwilson_ | nvz: So you'd sue him. BFD. You'd still be sore/hurt/dead. Telling someone they shouldn't do something because you'll sue them is idiotic. |
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| 03:30.20 | peterS | asg: I mean for verbs, like 'amo'. a verb in the first person doesn't inflect, does it? |
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| 03:30.36 | peterS | or in any person for that matter |
| 03:30.49 | asg | peterS: you're right, I haven't thought about that in a long time. |
| 03:31.05 | nvz | I've survived multiple car accidents before.. one that left me in a coma for more than a week dont even have any scars |
| 03:31.19 | peterS | asg: I don't know Latin, just bits and pieces. Italian certainly reminds me of French though - and that part I *did* expect. |
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| 03:31.37 | asg | peterS: amo, amas, ama, etc. sounds familiar |
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| 03:32.00 | karsten | !seen deadcat |
| 03:32.00 | dpkg | deadcat is currently on #debian (8h 3m 14s). Has said a total of 25000 messages. Is idling for 3m 5s |
| 03:32.09 | peterS | asg: right. I actually don't know the it_IT verb 'to love' - unlike Latin, it's not the first verb you learn (: |
| 03:32.12 | karsten | Guerin: u a girl? |
| 03:32.21 | deadcat | karsten: what up baby!. |
| 03:32.29 | Guerin | karsten: for the right amount of money, I'll be what you want me to be. |
| 03:32.32 | karsten | deadcat: got my zen on... |
| 03:32.34 | Guerin | oop |
| 03:32.39 | Guerin | what u want me 2 b |
| 03:32.40 | mwilson_ | Even an equivs package that only has a Conflicts in it doesn't win. |
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| 03:32.40 | karsten | Guerin: Heh. |
| 03:32.49 | asg | peterS: it was one of the first *we* learned in latin but the teacher was a rather interesting character. |
| 03:32.49 | deadcat | karsten: ? example. |
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| 03:33.02 | karsten | deadcat: work, fun stuff. |
| 03:33.04 | peterS | asg: from what I've heard, it's *always* the first verb *anyone* learns. I'm not clear on why. |
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| 03:33.06 | mwilson_ | Explicit 'install' operations win over all. |
| 03:33.21 | peterS | asg: apparently the exercise of learning Latin is steeped in quite a bit of tradition |
| 03:33.25 | deadcat | karsten: cool. |
| 03:33.30 | nvz | hell, I've been more perminatly injured by girls and dogs than cars I still got scars from those incidents |
| 03:33.32 | mwilson | fsck |
| 03:34.29 | deadcat | nvz: girls ("dont touch me there", then she kick you in the nuts?), dog ("this guy touch me there" bites your ass?) |
| 03:34.30 | asg | peterS: probably a ploy but you never know. |
| 03:34.36 | nvz | reminds me of what my uncle always said "anyone who hates kids and dogs cant be all bad" |
| 03:34.44 | peterS | asg: yeah, what do I know, I never actually learned the language. I'd like to some day. |
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| 03:35.18 | peterS | maybe it'll be easier if I have already hit basic italian |
| 03:35.27 | asg | peterS: the one thing I've learned is that once you learn one language, most others are easy (you've already learned the jargon, etc.) |
| 03:35.41 | nvz | deadcat: the neighbors that lived across the street when I was young had a big bear looking dog that bit my cheek once.. left some scars you can still see if you look close enough.. and I still got a scar on my shin from Jess beating me with a badmitton racket :P |
| 03:35.55 | peterS | I couldn't help myself last week, I spent about $7 for an en<->la dictionary |
| 03:36.09 | peterS | I was actually *looking* for en<->it |
| 03:36.14 | asg | :) |
| 03:36.21 | deadcat | nvz: )= |
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| 03:36.29 | peterS | the latter, I found elsewhere for $1, used |
| 03:36.36 | asg | peterS: I have a copy of Winnie the Pooh in Latin |
| 03:36.56 | v-dien | yu4w6dfsh |
| 03:37.07 | asg | v-dien: time for a new password |
| 03:37.10 | deadcat | v-dien: thans for the passwd |
| 03:37.11 | goldnlink | hehe |
| 03:37.11 | peterS | asg: my en<->it dictionary says copyright 1961. on the cover it says 60 cents. I paid $1. what a great investment someone originally made, a 67% return. (: |
| 03:37.14 | nvz | you pretty much have to know what you are looking for to see the scars on my face but if you took a photo of me you may notice better as the healing caused my skin to be a bit tighter on the one side |
| 03:37.25 | asg | peterS: hah :) |
| 03:37.32 | nvz | shows up more in 2d than in 3d |
| 03:37.34 | deadcat | asg: you should change it for him (= |
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| 03:37.58 | flankk | I have a box here where the audio chipset doesn't work and wasn't detected. I have tried compiling alsa in the past to no avail. The chipset is onboard and not faulty. The chip is old, not PnP compatible, and there are no related options in the BIOS. Help? |
| 03:38.09 | nvz | I dont even remember which side they are on and would have to look pretty hard to find them |
| 03:38.36 | nvz | can point out the dent in my shin from Jessica pretty quick though |
| 03:39.35 | nvz | flankk: help? help what? |
| 03:39.44 | deadcat | nvz: whos jessica? |
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| 03:40.12 | flankk | nvz, help yourself. |
| 03:40.13 | asg | deadcat: maybe she kicked him in the shin |
| 03:40.30 | deadcat | asg: racket. |
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| 03:40.42 | nvz | well my uncle who hates kids and dogs was dating this woman several years ago and they were going to get married.. she had two daughters Jessica was the oldest.. she was like a big sister to me at one time, we dont even talk anymore |
| 03:41.06 | deadcat | nvz: ah. |
| 03:41.16 | deadcat | domestic violence |
| 03:41.18 | nvz | my uncle met a rich woman on the internet with the pc I gave him and moved away |
| 03:41.30 | deadcat | nvz: hahaha. |
| 03:41.40 | deadcat | nvz: he owes you big |
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| 03:42.37 | nvz | she was just messing around.. young girls are like that sometimes especially if you spend enough time with them like I did back then.. Its seems to be how they "express themselves" |
| 03:43.05 | nvz | she just used hair spray, and blunt objects to show her feelings |
| 03:43.25 | flamesrock | hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows the best/easiest way to convert an avi into an mpg suitable for burning on to DVD? |
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| 03:43.42 | deadcat | nvz: thats nothing. i saw something funny/disturb today in my school library desk.. "i am going to kill myself tonight,... and something else" hhahaha |
| 03:44.21 | deadcat | nvz: too bad i forgot to bring my camera to school today. )= |
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| 03:44.45 | KrLoS | Overfiend, hi i was looking for you |
| 03:44.57 | KrLoS | Overfiend, we can chat in private |
| 03:45.05 | deadcat | steamy |
| 03:45.13 | darkhmet | que programa puedo usar para quemar hacer CDs booteables? |
| 03:45.17 | Guerin | hahah |
| 03:45.18 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: OF isn't around now; e-mail him instead. |
| 03:45.21 | deadcat | !es |
| 03:45.21 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:45.31 | darkhmet | oh! |
| 03:45.47 | darkhmet | sorry, im lost :P |
| 03:45.52 | deadcat | darkhmet: its ok |
| 03:46.40 | darkhmet | i need a program to make a booteable disk from an ISO image... |
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| 03:47.06 | darkhmet | somebody can help me? |
| 03:47.15 | deadcat | darkhmet: like dd? |
| 03:47.28 | darkhmet | dd? |
| 03:47.39 | nvz | what do they call those el torito or something |
| 03:47.43 | tonsofpcs | darkhmet -- what do you mean by bootable disk? |
| 03:47.54 | tonsofpcs | from an iso? |
| 03:47.58 | darkhmet | mmm yea! |
| 03:48.03 | darkhmet | from an ISO |
| 03:48.05 | dondelelcaro | darkhmet: the tool is mkisofs; you just need to make a bootable 2.88 floppy image, and use mkisofs to make the iso. |
| 03:48.24 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, wht is him mail |
| 03:48.29 | deadcat | whoa, another ssh brute force on me! )= |
| 03:48.39 | darkhmet | ok |
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| 03:48.45 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: uh... why do you want to talk to him? |
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| 03:49.17 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.21 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, u say me that isn't around here |
| 03:49.26 | deadcat | nvz: i use sshd. |
| 03:49.37 | nvz | for what, to get attacks? :P |
| 03:49.44 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: yes, he isn't, but why exactly do you want to talk to Overfiend? |
| 03:49.55 | deadcat | nvz: i can ssh from school, my friends can ssh in. |
| 03:50.01 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, some body say me atht he work with Murdock |
| 03:50.12 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: yes, he works with progeny... |
| 03:50.16 | nvz | anyone who bangs on my ports isnt a friend |
| 03:50.23 | nvz | at least without me telling them to |
| 03:50.38 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, and in peru we r trying to get contact whit him, but he doesn't answer our mail |
| 03:50.52 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: Ian doesn't? Or Branden doesn't? |
| 03:51.28 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, Ian Murdock? |
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| 03:51.48 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, and may be Overfiend could help us |
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| 03:51.53 | peterS | KrLoS: yes, he is asking if you are trying to reach Ian Murdock or trying to reach Branden Robinson |
| 03:51.57 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, Overfiend is branden |
| 03:52.11 | deadcat | whats daredevil's name? something murdock? |
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| 03:52.22 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: yes... |
| 03:52.28 | peterS | deadcat: murdoc is the archvillain in macgyver... |
| 03:52.50 | deadcat | peterS: no. the marvel dude. blind lawyer |
| 03:53.34 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, wow |
| 03:53.38 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, well |
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| 03:53.44 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, I didn't know |
| 03:53.53 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: in any case, Ian usually answers his e-mail fairly rapidly, but I he hasn't responded to my last one; regardless, you can get ahold of Branden at the address listed in db.debian.org, or you can e-mail him there too. |
| 03:54.20 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, can we tal in private please |
| 03:54.31 | ricky_clarkson | Yes please. |
| 03:54.52 | deadcat | ricky_clarkson: (= |
| 03:56.07 | deadcat | damn the ipod nano is cool. |
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| 03:57.23 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, well i explain you |
| 03:57.31 | ricky_clarkson | Nobody can explain dondelelcaro. |
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| 03:57.57 | H2OyJaBoN | hi all |
| 03:58.01 | lex | It seems that if i grant a user a permission from '%' host, but do not give him access as well from localhost, he gets rejected... shouldnt % mean ANY host? |
| 03:58.03 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, in peru we are trying to get ian murdock for a peruvian users meeting |
| 03:58.31 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, and we get some one who can pay murdock travel |
| 03:58.37 | ricky_clarkson | KrLoS: Is there any reason why you're speaking to dondelelcaro in English? Afaik he speaks teh Spanglish. |
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| 03:59.02 | KrLoS | better for me |
| 03:59.17 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, bueno |
| 03:59.22 | colk | hey does a 3c905b have a mii transever? |
| 03:59.36 | peterS | ricky_clarkson: yeah, encourage people to speak something other than english in #debian. nice going. |
| 03:59.37 | alpha255 | colby, mii-tool eth0 |
| 03:59.44 | KrLoS | el tema que estas personas, (una universidad) desean saber si el podra venir o no a peru para que puedan manejar su preuspuesto |
| 03:59.45 | ysothoth | colk - there is some bug in the driver |
| 03:59.51 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, el tema que estas personas, (una universidad) desean saber si el podra venir o no a peru para que puedan manejar su preuspuesto |
| 03:59.53 | ysothoth | colk - does it to me too |
| 03:59.58 | goldnlink | je ne vois pas l'interet |
| 03:59.59 | colby | eep |
| 04:00.00 | colk | well it acts like a really good firewall right now |
| 04:00.06 | colk | it gets a ip address |
| 04:00.09 | colk | but thats it |
| 04:00.19 | alpha255 | donde esta el computer? |
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| 04:00.29 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro, por esto he estado buscando a murdock o algun conocido de el para que le comunique que le he enviado un mail |
| 04:00.30 | ricky_clarkson | alpha255: en el rivera. |
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| 04:00.41 | alpha255 | glub glub glub |
| 04:01.03 | ricky_clarkson | alpha255: Sorry, I don't speak Indonesian. |
| 04:01.05 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro: ya que debemos dar esta respuesta |
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| 04:01.23 | colk | it says 10 mbit half duplex no link |
| 04:01.25 | KrLoS | dondelelcaro: seria muy interesante para nosotros poder contar con murdock en peru |
| 04:01.32 | colk | however the link light is on |
| 04:01.42 | colk | so its lying to me |
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| 04:01.57 | ysothoth | colk - hehe, I don't even get that far... I can't initialize the darn thing |
| 04:02.02 | litage | after creating my organization's root certificate, do i have to keep privkey.pem? |
| 04:02.05 | nvz | dont you mean la computadora .. ? |
| 04:02.14 | colk | this is in 2.6 |
| 04:02.23 | colk | is it a bug in the 2.6 driver itself? |
| 04:02.31 | dondelelcaro | KrLoS: ah, well, yeah, just /msg Overfiend about it, or e-mail him. |
| 04:02.52 | nvz | I havent spoken spanish in like 5 years, but I remember enough to know that "el computer" is just wrong |
| 04:02.57 | ysothoth | I think so |
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| 04:03.38 | colk | litage, if you want to read stuff encrypted with that key |
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| 04:03.57 | litage | colk: can it be renamed? |
| 04:04.05 | colk | yes |
| 04:04.16 | litage | thanks |
| 04:04.21 | ferris_ | is there a program that i can use to open M$ Publisher files? |
| 04:04.55 | peterS | ferris_: I don't believe so, in debian. you can try your luck with 'apt-cache search' |
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| 04:05.43 | colk | i think this card is screwed |
| 04:05.43 | nvz | I dont even know what MS Publisher is |
| 04:05.49 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: la maquina es mas preferable, para mi. |
| 04:05.54 | colk | because even the mii-diag cant talk to it |
| 04:05.58 | peterS | ferris_: who knows, maybe scribus reads publisher files. it doesn't say. |
| 04:06.21 | colk | ill paste what it gives me in #flood |
| 04:06.23 | ferris_ | kind of like adobe pagemaker |
| 04:06.27 | peterS | nvz: it's a toy that wants to be QuarkXpress or Adobe InDesign |
| 04:06.33 | peterS | err, Pagemaker, I meant |
| 04:06.46 | stouset | ferris_: Aldus PageMaker! |
| 04:06.59 | colk | should I just throw the card out |
| 04:07.00 | peterS | Adobe bought them didn't they? |
| 04:07.05 | peterS | maybe not |
| 04:07.11 | nvz | ricky_clarkson: I have not idea what a "la maquina" is .. my vocab in that language has not been exercized |
| 04:07.14 | colk | if it cant talk to the card at all |
| 04:07.16 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: The machine. |
| 04:07.21 | ferris_ | it is Adobe Pagemaker |
| 04:07.27 | ferris_ | used to work for adobe |
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| 04:07.37 | stouset | ferris_: Used to be owned by Aldus :) |
| 04:07.43 | ferris_ | but yes they bought it from aldus |
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| 04:08.09 | peterS | ferris_: anyway. scribus is the most advanced DTP in Debian. it may or may not include import filters for things like MS Publisher. I don't know, I don't have it installed |
| 04:08.33 | nvz | I studied spanish for like 5 years and never put it to any use so its not really a very developed skill |
| 04:08.34 | ferris_ | ok, thanks peterS |
| 04:08.57 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: #debian-es necesita tu! |
| 04:09.14 | ricky_clarkson | Redundant 'tu' at line 1. |
| 04:09.34 | nvz | yeah but it would be silly to be in there talking bad spanish to people who need help |
| 04:09.50 | pourriture | should all the mirrors on an etch netinst have gpg keys on keyserver.debian.org ... or do I need to hunt them down elsewhere? |
| 04:10.45 | Lorvija | uhm.. how do i unmount a filesystem? trying umount -f /dev/md0 which is my /home but it says fs busy |
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| 04:10.58 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: If you use online translation tools to help you it's not too bad. |
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| 04:11.13 | stouset | Lorvija: Someone is in that directory. Possibly you. |
| 04:11.43 | pourriture | Lorvija: console login as root |
| 04:11.43 | Lorvija | stouset hmm I'm the only user and i'm not in that dir anymore |
| 04:11.46 | peterS | ferris_: http://www.scribus.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index&myfaq=yes&id_cat=3#19 |
| 04:12.00 | Kvant | Lorvija, try this: lsof | grep /home |
| 04:12.01 | ricky_clarkson | Lorvija: Log out as that user, log in as root. |
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| 04:12.24 | Lorvija | ricky_clarkson okay |
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| 04:12.31 | foo | ls: /public: Stale NFS file handle |
| 04:12.35 | pourriture | Kvant: nice with the smart solution :) |
| 04:12.39 | foo | What is the best way to fix that? I have a debian client and am getting taht |
| 04:13.29 | peterS | foo: unmount, mount |
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| 04:13.35 | Lorvija | Kvant: bash 2750 nrj cwd DIR 9,0 4096 20873235 /home/nrj/public_html |
| 04:13.42 | peterS | foo: the NFS server has been rebooted and something about its configuration has changed significantly |
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| 04:14.08 | nvz | ricky_clarkson: yeah nothing like an translator that doesnt know its el invernadero from its la casa verde. |
| 04:14.32 | nvz | those translators just make bad speakers look worse |
| 04:14.42 | Kvant | Lorvija, a bash is cd:d to /home... which is enough to make the filesystem busy :) |
| 04:14.54 | Lorvija | Kvant okay, so i'll log out and change to root (: |
| 04:15.21 | nite_fly | is Kde written in C or C++ ? |
| 04:15.41 | pourriture | Lorvija: just curious ... why unmounting /home? |
| 04:15.55 | bob2 | nite_fly: much of it is C++ |
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| 04:16.04 | pourriture | must be adding a new drive |
| 04:16.05 | nite_fly | bob2, thanks |
| 04:16.41 | Lorvija | pourriture i need to fsck it.. got some probs with the hd's (well im not sure.. but just to be sure) |
| 04:16.51 | Lorvija | pourriture http://pastebin.com/357265 got that yesterday |
| 04:16.54 | Pantera | HOLA?????? |
| 04:17.18 | benditasabedoria | Hi! I have a question : can I run debian on my old imac 32Mo ram? |
| 04:18.02 | pourriture | benditasabedoria: I have run console debian on a graphite imac with 64mb |
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| 04:18.47 | benditasabedoria | I'm kind of a newbie in this...is console debian a special distribution? |
| 04:18.55 | pourriture | benditasabedoria: but the vid tough to config for x .... tough = I was too stupid to do it ... your mileage may vary |
| 04:19.28 | De_Mon | uh |
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| 04:19.54 | De_Mon | why does 'echo $((08-1))' give me the error bash: 08: value too great for base (error token is "08") |
| 04:19.58 | pourriture | benditasabedoria: (translation) I got as far as command line only ... couldn't get a gui |
| 04:20.15 | pourriture | but I did play a lot of nethack on it |
| 04:20.15 | De_Mon | but only on the numbers 08 and 09 |
| 04:20.32 | benditasabedoria | thanks for the translation :) |
| 04:20.47 | mwilson | De_Mon: Because an octal number can't use a digit greater than seven. |
| 04:21.03 | mwilson | De_Mon: Why it thinks it's octal, I have no idea. |
| 04:21.04 | benditasabedoria | any chance to put a gui on it? |
| 04:21.21 | De_Mon | hrm |
| 04:21.22 | mwilson | benditasabedoria: Put a GUI on what? |
| 04:21.33 | benditasabedoria | my old imac |
| 04:21.37 | mwilson | If you like. |
| 04:21.42 | peterS | mwilson: that's a widely used convention - leading 0 signifies octal, leading 0x signifies hexadecimal |
| 04:21.56 | benditasabedoria | is it going to be fast enough? |
| 04:22.05 | peterS | benditasabedoria: yellow |
| 04:22.05 | mwilson | peterS: Ah. I didn't know what bash did regarding bases. |
| 04:22.19 | peterS | mwilson: just a guess, but that's what a lot of other software does |
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| 04:22.34 | De_Mon | mwilson wow. I never would have guessed thats what it was doing. |
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| 04:22.52 | pourriture | benditasabedoria: I couldn't identify where on the pci bus the vid lived ... I read lots of PPC guides ... but never found the key |
| 04:23.05 | De_Mon | Constants with a leading 0 are interpreted as octal numbers. |
| 04:23.14 | De_Mon | that sucks |
| 04:23.18 | Pantera | Im from Argentina |
| 04:23.20 | Pantera | HOLA?????? |
| 04:23.25 | Pantera | Are we speeking spanish????????????????????? |
| 04:23.26 | mwilson | Key? What "key"? |
| 04:23.28 | CaT[tm] | de_mon: pretty standard. |
| 04:24.08 | pourriture | mwilson: key in the colloquial sense ... trick ... secret |
| 04:24.21 | dondelelcaro | Pantera: no. If you want to speak spanish, go to #debian-es |
| 04:24.27 | De_Mon | CaT[tm] numbers begining with zero assumed to be octal? |
| 04:24.32 | dondelelcaro | Pantera: in either case, don't use so much punctuation. |
| 04:24.32 | CaT[tm] | de_mon: yup. |
| 04:24.42 | CaT[tm] | de_mon: comes from C I believe. |
| 04:25.35 | peterS | CaT[tm]: not sure if that's the origin, but it's certainly true in the 'scanf' series of C functions, specifically the %i designator |
| 04:25.37 | De_Mon | CaT[tm] good to know. apparently.. hehe |
| 04:26.15 | mwilson | pourriture: What's so hard? It's not like X itself doesn't tell you what it is, or you can use lspci. |
| 04:26.31 | CaT[tm] | peters: I'm sure C got it from one of its precursors back in the 70s. |
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| 04:27.59 | pourriture | mwilson: that was my caveat .... tough = I was too stupid to get debian ppc going in X on a g3 imac ... your mileage may vary |
| 04:28.05 | litage | if i create an ssl certificate and use it with apache, can i also use it for securing, say, ldap? |
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| 04:29.00 | colk | ok |
| 04:29.20 | colk | if > 1 ethernet card dosent work in a particular pci slot |
| 04:29.24 | colk | could the slot be bad |
| 04:29.31 | mwilson | colk: Possibly but not likely. |
| 04:30.02 | CaT[tm] | litage: so long as the common name involved is thesame you should be ok. |
| 04:30.02 | mwilson | colk: Especially if other cards do. |
| 04:30.02 | colk | ive tried 3 cards so far |
| 04:30.02 | colk | nothing |
| 04:30.02 | mwilson | Define "nothing". |
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| 04:30.17 | colk | network card wise |
| 04:30.25 | litage | CaT[tm]: what exactly does the CN need to be set to? the machine's hostname (ie: what `hostname` spits out?) |
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| 14:22.36 | debian707 | asg thank you :) |
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| 14:24.54 | asg | debian707: you're welcome |
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| 14:25.27 | GladeGal | I'm using apache2 and setting up .htaccess on a dir. It's wroking perfectly fine in one dir (a vhost), but not another (default domain). All configs are the same, any ideas? |
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| 14:25.46 | asg | GladeGal: have you asked in #apache yet? |
| 14:25.53 | GladeGal | yes. |
| 14:25.56 | GladeGal | no answers |
| 14:26.13 | EmleyMoor | Whenever I print from firefox, the output is too large for the page - I estimate it's about 4x too big - what do I need to do to fix it? |
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| 14:26.34 | samuel | GladeGal, lemme guess, they told you something about how debian packaging for apache is weirrd.... etc.... etc.... etc.... ? |
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| 14:27.30 | liable | EmleyMoor: you using cups? you have played with the settings when the print page comes up? |
| 14:27.34 | bob2 | wtf |
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| 14:27.44 | stew | GladeGal: sounds like you are missing a <Directory> entry with AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig |
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| 14:28.03 | EmleyMoor | liable: No - can't really see what to do |
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| 14:28.34 | liable | EmleyMoor: when you hit the print button, a little window doesnt come up? |
| 14:28.48 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
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| 14:29.12 | liable | and a4 is set? |
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| 14:29.20 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
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| 14:30.43 | liable | EmleyMoor: other apps print ok? |
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| 14:31.01 | EmleyMoor | Yes, by and large, they do. openoffice, for example, is fine |
| 14:31.23 | liable | whats firefox using to print? |
| 14:31.33 | EmleyMoor | "using">? |
| 14:31.42 | EmleyMoor | What does it use? |
| 14:31.44 | liable | are you running cups? |
| 14:31.46 | EmleyMoor | Yes |
| 14:32.01 | GladeGal | stew close... was AllowOverride :) |
| 14:32.03 | GladeGal | Thanks tho |
| 14:32.08 | liable | whats the command in the window when you hit the print button |
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| 14:32.28 | EmleyMoor | Ummm... command? There isn't a command as such... |
| 14:32.29 | stew | GladeGal: isn't that what I said? |
| 14:32.50 | GladeGal | Not really... |
| 14:32.59 | nvz | oh well nothing fancy enough to bother testing gnome 2.10 the interesting changes are starting, but not really taking form until 2.12 at the earliest |
| 14:33.00 | GladeGal | it was 'none' insted of 'all' |
| 14:33.04 | liable | EmleyMoor: when you hit the print button, it opens the window, and there is a command in the top bit of it. |
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| 14:33.37 | EmleyMoor | There isn't a "command"... there's the option to print to Printer or File - and printer is hplj6p@:64 |
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| 14:34.02 | tryingtohelp | It may use xprint |
| 14:34.23 | liable | thats all it says? hplj6.. |
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| 14:34.40 | EmleyMoor | liable: Yes |
| 14:34.41 | tryingtohelp | running /etc/init.d/xprint restart as root sometimes help, though I do not know if it helps wit hthat. |
| 14:34.55 | liable | no lpr? |
| 14:35.09 | Lorvija | hey, anyone wanna clarify what this means: http://pastebin.com/358001 and how to fix it? |
| 14:35.14 | Alex_BO | HELLO!I'd like to run a program after a login.what file have i to modify? |
| 14:35.17 | EmleyMoor | lpr is a command, not a printer |
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| 14:35.29 | liable | no shit.. |
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| 14:35.52 | asg | Lorvija: your kernel crashed. |
| 14:36.04 | Rev0_ | is there some new change in the 2.6.13 kernel that it shows an HT cpu only as one cpu instead of 2? |
| 14:36.09 | asg | !wikifaq Alex_BO Dotfiles |
| 14:36.10 | dpkg | Alex_BO: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Dotfiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 14:36.19 | Lorvija | asg was it because kernel bug, bug in a program or hw fault? (: |
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| 14:36.22 | theD3viL | Can enyone tell me if exist "defrag" in linux ? |
| 14:36.43 | nevyn | theD3viL: umm there is a defragger for ext2 |
| 14:36.51 | nevyn | theD3viL: and ext3 |
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| 14:36.59 | nevyn | but most unix filesystems don't need it. |
| 14:37.00 | nvz | I may upgrade at least this one box to etch though anyhow. if not 2 or all of them. |
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| 14:37.03 | asg | Lorvija: hard to say, were you doing anything at the time? |
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| 14:37.14 | EmleyMoor | Have tried restarting xprint - still too big |
| 14:37.21 | theD3viL | nevyn, yes.. i know.. but its ql .. it sort files |
| 14:37.25 | Alex_BO | dpkg: i'm reading it.tnks |
| 14:37.29 | nevyn | ql? |
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| 14:37.43 | Lorvija | asg apache-perl was generating thumbs from hundreds of photos.. i've had these errors several times when i've been uploading/moving files a lot |
| 14:37.52 | nevyn | theD3viL: apt-cache show defrag |
| 14:38.21 | asg | Lorvija: does the system keep running or do you have to reboot? |
| 14:38.57 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: such thing can mean everything from buggy kernel, to kernel buggy in working with buggy hardware, corrupt memory, corrupt buses, corrupt processor, overheated processor.... |
| 14:38.58 | asg | Lorvija: apache-perl is definitely causing the issue though (Process apache-perl (pid: 4470, threadinfo=c86ec000 task=db350170) |
| 14:38.59 | Lorvija | asg now it kept running.. last time i couldnt list nor do anything to one dir.. it froze if i tried to dir/ls/cp/mv anything to that dir.. |
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| 14:39.26 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp well not bad hd or bad memory as i've tested them (: |
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| 14:39.29 | asg | Lorvija: anything in /var/log/syslog besides that that is interesting? |
| 14:39.53 | asg | Lorvija: oh wait, do you have swap? run 'free' |
| 14:39.55 | Lorvija | asg similar errors, sometimes its just smbd or vsftp.. depends which i'm using to transfer files |
| 14:40.22 | Lorvija | asg may i /msg the info to u? |
| 14:40.28 | asg | Lorvija: or use paster |
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| 14:40.43 | asg | Lorvija: others may be following the issue |
| 14:40.47 | Lorvija | http://pastebin.com/358010 |
| 14:40.51 | Lorvija | okay (: |
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| 14:41.10 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: overheated processor is a possibility still, try importing the debian-keyring repeatedly with gpg, I've yet not seen a instable processor to cope that. |
| 14:41.30 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp hmm how do i do that? |
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| 14:41.44 | s0n1 | hi |
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| 14:41.44 | asg | Lorvija: hmmm, plenty of swap but it looks like it's running out of memory or having issues with memory. |
| 14:41.57 | s0n1 | i install in my debian splashy (experimental) |
| 14:42.08 | s0n1 | i put kopt in my grub |
| 14:42.19 | s0n1 | but in update-grub |
| 14:42.42 | s0n1 | Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst . |
| 14:42.42 | s0n1 | Searching for splash image... none found, skipping... |
| 14:42.54 | s0n1 | why none found splash image ? |
| 14:42.55 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: install gpg and debian-keyring and run gpg --import /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg Thats normaly a good stress test. |
| 14:42.59 | Lorvija | asg hmm i'm running some memory intensive stuff.. doing those thumbnails and transferring several gb of files from this comp to that server.. |
| 14:43.02 | liable | guess there isnt an image? |
| 14:43.10 | s0n1 | if i have /etc/splashy/config.xml |
| 14:43.19 | s0n1 | and /etc/splashy/themes/ |
| 14:43.33 | asg | Lorvija: i'd test your memory again. Also, try tryingtohelp's advice to see if it also causes the same issue. |
| 14:43.45 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: if you already use gpg, creating a new account to not overload your public keyring would be worthwhile |
| 14:43.53 | Lorvija | asg well i tested my memory with memtest86 and 8 passes. 0 errors |
| 14:44.01 | crashbg | guys, can i run a website made in visual basic 6 in apache2??? |
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| 14:44.06 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp not using gpg (: |
| 14:44.06 | asg | crashbg: hahaha |
| 14:44.11 | crashbg | or i have to user windows+iis? |
| 14:44.22 | crashbg | asg: some idiot made it in visual basic |
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| 14:44.36 | asg | crashbg: then you'll have to use IIS or port it to something else. |
| 14:44.38 | Alex_BO | dpkg: okey.i've read it.there's written that i have to modify .bashrc; i've modify it and it works, but it runs the programs even if i open a terminal in gnome |
| 14:44.46 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp apt-get install gpg doesnt find any packages... (: |
| 14:44.57 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: gnupg is the package name |
| 14:44.58 | asg | Alex_BO: then put it in ~/.bash_profile |
| 14:45.02 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp okay thanks |
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| 14:45.13 | liable | Alex_BO: btw dpkg is a bot :) |
| 14:45.25 | digimurder | join /danix |
| 14:45.39 | liable | haha |
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| 14:45.56 | werw | Hi! I just apt-getted g++-2.9.5, but it is'nt my default compiler |
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| 14:46.08 | werw | How can i use it as default? |
| 14:46.17 | streuner | werw: what version of debian? |
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| 14:46.24 | werw | unstable |
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| 14:46.34 | liable | 2.9.5? |
| 14:46.39 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp btw what does that import command really do? |
| 14:46.45 | liable | for making kernels? |
| 14:46.49 | otwin | hello, does anybody know an apt-get repository for debian with samba 3.0.20? |
| 14:46.52 | werw | I must compile old code |
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| 14:47.12 | werw | with dirty tricks, that newer compilers throw away |
| 14:47.24 | asg | !info samba sid |
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| 14:47.30 | dpkg | samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6 (sid), Packaged size: 2463 kB, Installed size: 6392 kB |
| 14:47.32 | nvz | !+info g++-2.9.5 sid |
| 14:47.34 | dpkg | Package 'g++-2.9.5' does not exist. |
| 14:47.39 | asg | otwin: not likely since sid is still 3.0.14 |
| 14:47.39 | tryingtohelp | Lovija: it adds all the key and signatures from the keyring file to you public key ring in .gnupg, therewhile checking signatures and calculating checksums, so causing heavy load for the processor. |
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| 14:48.04 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp okay, and i should run it few times? |
| 14:48.11 | streuner | !info gcc-2.95 |
| 14:48.14 | dpkg | gcc-2.95: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:2.95.4-22 (sid), Packaged size: 915 kB, Installed size: 2224 kB |
| 14:48.27 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: if the first run gives no errors, yes. |
| 14:48.34 | streuner | werw: /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink... |
| 14:48.38 | nvz | streuner: gcc != g++ afaik |
| 14:48.38 | liable | man make export it. |
| 14:48.38 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp okay thanks, i'll report here (: |
| 14:48.48 | werw | I made a simbolic link in /bin/g++ to /usr/bin/g++-2.95 |
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| 14:48.58 | streuner | nvz: g++ 2.95 is also in sid.. |
| 14:48.59 | werw | is this sufficient? |
| 14:49.00 | theD3viL | why all the people use for workstations unstable? |
| 14:49.01 | debian_user | i'm tring to install the kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4_2.4.18-5woody8_i386.deb via apt, but can't seem to figure out how to configure my sources.list to download the package |
| 14:49.09 | asg | theD3viL: they don't |
| 14:49.10 | debian_user | any suggestions? |
| 14:49.23 | theD3viL | asg: almost everyone ;) |
| 14:49.25 | asg | debian_user: are you using woody? |
| 14:49.41 | debian_user | asg: well, the original install was woody |
| 14:49.52 | nvz | streuner: the extra period threw me off. I didnt realize he meant 2.95 |
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| 14:49.52 | Lilldude | laible shiping warenty parts today back to me |
| 14:49.55 | debian_user | asg: but i thought that i used apt-get upgrade to move it up to sarge |
| 14:49.56 | asg | debian_user: what is it now? |
| 14:49.59 | beanz | Hi. Can anyone help me out? I have nine lines of html. On woody, this breaks when I click the submit button x 5. Can anyone help me confirm this before I post a bug report= |
| 14:50.06 | Lilldude | liable il ahve new network thing |
| 14:50.12 | beanz | I'm using apache1 with php and suexec. |
| 14:50.18 | liable | Lilldude: router? |
| 14:50.23 | asg | debian_user: oh, try manually looking for it at ftp.debian.org |
| 14:50.38 | theD3viL | will be new gnome in sarge ? |
| 14:50.38 | asg | debian_user: or add woody sources, apt-get update, and apt-cache search |
| 14:50.42 | asg | theD3viL: no |
| 14:50.44 | Lilldude | yeah |
| 14:50.47 | s0n1 | someone use splashy in debian herE? |
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| 14:50.57 | liable | Lilldude: they found it? |
| 14:51.03 | debian_user | asg: how should i modify my sources.list to do that? |
| 14:51.03 | drac | debian_user: or just apt-get install 2.4.27 kernel image and headers :p |
| 14:51.08 | theD3viL | asg, why not? Where will be? what you using? |
| 14:51.15 | nvz | beanz: might as well file a bug if you must.. not that it will really do anything.. if you want someone to test something you need to upgrade to the current stable release |
| 14:51.19 | asg | debian_user: just add a line similar to your sarge but change sarge to woody. |
| 14:51.20 | streuner | theD3viL: check out backports later (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 14:51.31 | asg | theD3viL: because sarge only gets security fixes. |
| 14:51.44 | debian_user | asg: this is the line i'm using now deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/ main |
| 14:51.47 | nvz | beanz: nobody really likes being botherd about obsolete code |
| 14:51.50 | asg | theD3viL: depending on when etch releases, it might be in there but also might not. |
| 14:51.52 | beanz | nvz: that's the plan, but I'd like to confirm the bug on woody first. |
| 14:51.55 | Lilldude | i maybe need you help liable when it arives |
| 14:51.59 | debian_user | whoops, i mean: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 14:52.03 | liable | Lilldude: sure. |
| 14:52.07 | asg | debian_user: leave that, there should also be a regular source line. Just copy that and s/sarge/woody/ |
| 14:52.08 | theD3viL | asg, aha... thats why i have evertything old :) |
| 14:52.11 | beanz | Does anyone have one minute and has an apache server on woody? |
| 14:52.12 | debian_user | and: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
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| 14:52.23 | asg | debian_user: that's the one, s/stable/woody/ |
| 14:52.29 | Alex_B1 | asg: sorry, but i have had connection's problems at work (my phone is ringing all moments!!!) |
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| 14:52.53 | asg | Alex_B1: no worries, .bashrc is called on every shell, .bash_profile only on login shells. |
| 14:53.13 | debian_user | asg: deb http://security.debian.org/s/stable/woody |
| 14:53.15 | debian_user | ? |
| 14:53.15 | colk | every bash shell |
| 14:53.19 | tryingtohelp | asg: only if .bash_profile calls .bashrc |
| 14:53.22 | colk | not every shell |
| 14:53.29 | asg | tryingtohelp: it is doing in his case |
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| 14:53.44 | theD3viL | asg, sarge is stable (that one i using), woody is testing and unstable is sid? |
| 14:53.47 | debian_user | asg: i mean: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/stable/woody |
| 14:53.49 | asg | debian_user: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free |
| 14:53.55 | sgeigerbot | Does anyone know of a site similar to linux-on-laptops.net but for servers? I sure would love to get my hands on a kernel config for my particular machine (ml370) just to see what options other people thought were useful. |
| 14:54.01 | asg | theD3viL: no, woody is oldstable, sarge is stable, etch is testing, sid is sid |
| 14:54.02 | Lilldude | is there gaim for debain? |
| 14:54.04 | tryingtohelp | theD3viL: woody is oldstable, etch is testing |
| 14:54.06 | sgeigerbot | (There ought to be a site for that sort of thing.) |
| 14:54.10 | asg | Lilldude: apt-cache search |
| 14:54.19 | Lilldude | ok |
| 14:54.24 | Alex_B1 | asg, thanks |
| 14:54.50 | theD3viL | asg, tryingtohelp, what is for workstations? Sarge is for servers couse is stable right? |
| 14:55.06 | asg | theD3viL: sarge runs just fine on workstations, so does woody |
| 14:55.17 | otwin | @asg: thanks, at least i found some .deb files http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/debian/ |
| 14:55.23 | tryingtohelp | theD3viL: depends what you want to do. Most workstations here are still woody and slowly migrated to sarge. |
| 14:55.39 | nvz | otwin: dont put @ in front of nicks like that |
| 14:55.39 | ma3x | why the hell is /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server taking %80 of my cpu? Should I kill it? |
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| 14:56.17 | asg | ma3x: capital idea if you aren't using it for something |
| 14:56.21 | otwin | nvz: sorry |
| 14:56.23 | liable | hax0rs! :P |
| 14:56.28 | colk | I guess im now running etch |
| 14:56.40 | colk | ive had testing in my sources for over a year |
| 14:56.47 | nvz | otwin: if you say someone's name they know you are talking at them. @ as well as ! and ~ are triggers for bots |
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| 14:56.54 | Lilldude | liable i nevor found that cd burner you told me abought |
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| 14:57.07 | nvz | should you have used the word is or some other keyword you would have been writing what you said to someones database |
| 14:57.10 | liable | Lilldude: k3b |
| 14:57.16 | Lilldude | yeap |
| 14:57.18 | theD3viL | tryingtohelp, is amule for debian? or i must compile it? |
| 14:57.19 | otwin | nvz: I see, thanks - didn't know that. |
| 14:57.23 | liable | !info k3b sarge |
| 14:57.25 | dpkg | k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.20-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 2231 kB, Installed size: 4740 kB |
| 14:57.47 | Lilldude | i guess or apt-get it |
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| 14:57.56 | liable | thats right.. |
| 14:57.57 | tryingtohelp | theD3viL: according to packages.debian.org there is an amule package for only unstable |
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| 14:58.28 | theD3viL | tryingtohelp, aha |
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| 14:59.02 | hcy | hi, i'm trying to do a netboot to install debian on a sun ultra 5. In the middle of downloading the files, it has an error and stops - each time on a different file. I think it's having network problems - either connecting to my working computer through the router, or connecting through it to the internet. Is there anything I can do to help the connection between the two computers? And is there any way to download or cache the files it wants to get for the in |
| 14:59.02 | hcy | stall onto my working computer so that the sun will only need to get them from my other computer and not straight from the internet? |
| 14:59.06 | ma3x | I kill the gam_server and it starts again and again |
| 14:59.09 | ma3x | what the hell should i do? |
| 14:59.11 | theD3viL | tryingtohelp, but there is |
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| 14:59.21 | theD3viL | tryingtohelp, but there is no packages in stable for p2p |
| 14:59.34 | liable | ma3x: how are you killing it? |
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| 14:59.53 | ma3x | liable, -9 |
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| 14:59.59 | hcy | hi liable, remember me? ;) PeterS or jm_ or the others still around? |
| 15:00.04 | nvz | hcy: is the other pc running debian? |
| 15:00.10 | tryingtohelp | theD3viL: Dunno about that. Never needed p2p and none of the users of the workstations I look after needed it yet... |
| 15:00.12 | sgeigerbot | hcy: the other whats? ;-) |
| 15:00.12 | blikar | hello |
| 15:00.12 | hcy | yes, debian sid |
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| 15:00.23 | blikar | question about wireless networking with debian |
| 15:00.24 | nvz | hcy: you could use apt-cacher or something |
| 15:00.31 | hcy | the other guys who were here about 6 hours ago helping me |
| 15:00.32 | ma3x | liable, ok fuck it, the process is still runnin, but not using much cpu now |
| 15:00.32 | blikar | where do I get the nwepgen and other utils |
| 15:00.34 | ma3x | just leave it |
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| 15:01.23 | liable | ma3x: is it in init.d? try stopping it from there.. |
| 15:01.33 | ma3x | how do i resize a partition? |
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| 15:01.50 | liable | qtparted, parted.. |
| 15:01.54 | nvz | ma3x: parted could do it |
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| 15:02.02 | ma3x | liable, it's greyed out, not able to do that |
| 15:02.07 | nvz | though the filesystem that may be therein is a different thing alltogether |
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| 15:02.20 | liable | ma3x: ?? |
| 15:02.27 | nvz | if you shrink a partition with a filesystem you risk loosing data if you dont shrink the filesystem first |
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| 15:02.30 | ma3x | liable, the option resize is greyed out (disabled) |
| 15:02.38 | liable | oh |
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| 15:03.16 | blikar | question about wireless networking with debian |
| 15:03.17 | blikar | where do I get the nwepgen and other utils |
| 15:03.42 | nvz | !find bin/nwepgen$ |
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| 15:03.49 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/nwepgen' (1): (/sbin/nwepgen) in admin/linux-wlan-ng. |
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| 15:04.13 | blikar | ... |
| 15:04.14 | nvz | dpkg, botsnack |
| 15:04.25 | nvz | oh well the bot doesnt eat anymore |
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| 15:04.34 | nvz | blikar: ... ? |
| 15:04.47 | blikar | which package? |
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| 15:04.56 | nvz | blikar: the answer is section admin linux-wlan-ng |
| 15:04.58 | blikar | linux-wlan-ng |
| 15:04.59 | nvz | cant you read :P |
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| 15:05.09 | blikar | doesn't exist :P |
| 15:05.15 | lakcaj | here neither |
| 15:05.18 | nvz | blikar: what distro? |
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| 15:05.23 | lakcaj | debian sarge |
| 15:05.26 | blikar | sarge |
| 15:05.31 | blikar | and 2.6.8 |
| 15:05.32 | nvz | !+info linux-wlan-ng sarge |
| 15:05.34 | dpkg | Package 'linux-wlan-ng' does not exist. |
| 15:05.39 | nvz | imagine that |
| 15:05.44 | blikar | ... |
| 15:05.50 | nvz | hmm |
| 15:05.54 | nvz | !+info linux-wlan-ng etch |
| 15:05.56 | dpkg | Package 'linux-wlan-ng' does not exist. |
| 15:05.58 | blikar | my point exactly :) |
| 15:06.00 | nvz | !+info linux-wlan-ng |
| 15:06.04 | dpkg | linux-wlan-ng: (utilities for wireless prism2 cards), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.2.0+0.2.1pre21-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 524 kB |
| 15:06.11 | lakcaj | I did an apt-file search for wepgen, and didn't find anything, and was surprised when the bot found the wlan-ng package. |
| 15:06.11 | nvz | blikar: its in sid only I guess |
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| 15:06.35 | blikar | erm, sid is testing? |
| 15:06.40 | asg | unstable |
| 15:06.43 | blikar | ahhh |
| 15:06.46 | nvz | blikar: no sid is unstable, etch is testing |
| 15:06.53 | blikar | yeah |
| 15:07.03 | blikar | I'm a bit out of the scene atm :) |
| 15:07.11 | nvz | blikar: maybe search for an unofficial sarge backport on apt-get.org |
| 15:07.20 | nvz | or backports.org |
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| 15:07.34 | blikar | i'll do that |
| 15:07.37 | blikar | on other hand |
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| 15:07.59 | nvz | !depends linux-wlan-ng |
| 15:08.04 | dpkg | linux-wlan-ng: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), sysvinit (>= 2.80-1), wireless-tools |
| 15:08.24 | blikar | !+info libc6 sarge |
| 15:08.28 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 4784 kB, Installed size: 15548 kB |
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| 15:08.56 | nvz | blikar: it will work if you just grab it off a sid mirror and dpkg -i it |
| 15:09.03 | blikar | I know |
| 15:09.06 | blikar | :) |
| 15:09.08 | nvz | blikar: doesnt have any requirements that are not in sarge :) |
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| 15:09.39 | nvz | blikar: those blootbots are pretty slick eh? |
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| 15:09.48 | blikar | yep :D |
| 15:10.10 | nvz | blikar: you can /msg them in the future if you need that kind of help without having to wait on someone to answer you |
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| 15:10.36 | Masterkong | anyone know how to enable better autocompletion in bash? |
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| 15:10.38 | blikar | yes, I know them bots |
| 15:10.40 | nvz | blikar: they will only speak to you if you are in a channel with them though |
| 15:10.57 | blikar | but I just spent googling 1 hour in search for a deb with nwepgen |
| 15:11.11 | blikar | humm, didn't know that though |
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| 15:11.32 | nvz | should have /msg dpkg find bin/nwepgen$ |
| 15:11.57 | nvz | blootbots can google too, but they know more than one trick |
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| 15:12.07 | tryingtohelp | or ask http://packages.debian.org that also has a search interface. |
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| 15:12.13 | asg | Masterkong: edit your ~/.bashrc |
| 15:12.28 | nvz | tryingtohelp: yeah but dpkg works even when p.d.o is down IIRC |
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| 15:13.05 | tryingtohelp | nvz: but packages.debian.org also works when irc is down... |
| 15:13.11 | nvz | heh |
| 15:13.12 | Masterkong | asg how? |
| 15:13.26 | davis | besides Imagemagick Convert, is there another program available in Debian which will create thumbnails from jpg images that could be used in a script? |
| 15:13.30 | asg | Masterkong: with vi. look for the commented bash_completion bit and uncomment it |
| 15:13.40 | Masterkong | that doenst work |
| 15:13.45 | nvz | tryingtohelp: well apt-file works when both are down :P |
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| 15:13.54 | Masterkong | i just get alot of errors when i start a shell |
| 15:13.55 | blikar | davis: one moment |
| 15:14.20 | asg | Masterkong: then comment the right bits |
| 15:14.27 | asg | Masterkong: uncomment rather |
| 15:14.29 | Masterkong | asg i use gedit but i dont think that matters right? ;) |
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| 15:14.57 | asg | Masterkong: it shouldn't unless gedit did something silly. |
| 15:15.09 | Masterkong | but i just said it didn't work?! |
| 15:15.27 | asg | Masterkong: what error do you get? |
| 15:15.46 | Masterkong | can i paste it here? |
| 15:15.46 | nvz | bah damn HUP |
| 15:15.47 | blikar | davis: GD |
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| 15:15.54 | blikar | that's the program name |
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| 15:16.05 | davis | blikar: ok. im looking now. |
| 15:16.06 | asg | Masterkong: use a paster bot (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 15:16.07 | micker_sleeping | hey all. anyone feel generous enough to assist me in getting my pcmcia network card going? it properly identifies it when I hotplug it, but I just cant seem to connect to the network with it... |
| 15:16.26 | nvz | does running a nohup imply bg or do I still have to bg it? |
| 15:16.50 | asg | nvz: screen > nohup |
| 15:16.54 | nvz | I am not running gnome but I am using nautilus and need gnome-settings-daemon to run but I dont want to leave the fuckin terminal open |
| 15:17.00 | js_ | nvz: you have to bg it |
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| 15:17.19 | nvz | so nohup gnome-settings-daemon & ? |
| 15:17.25 | js_ | yes |
| 15:17.41 | asg | nvz: or create a sysv init script to start/stop it whenever you want. |
| 15:17.41 | nvz | cool that works |
| 15:17.42 | Masterkong | ok.. did that work? |
| 15:17.48 | blikar | !find GD |
| 15:17.50 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'GD' (15 of 163): cgdb ;; cl-gd ;; eggdrop ;; eggdrop-data ;; gauche-gdbm ;; gda2-freetds ;; gda2-mysql ;; gda2-odbc ;; gda2-postgres ;; gda2-sqlite ;; gdal-bin ;; gdancer ;; gdb ;; gdb-avr ;; gdb-m68hc1x. |
| 15:17.59 | Masterkong | http://channels.debian.net/paste/661 |
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| 15:18.33 | asg | Masterkong: paste your ~/.bashrc also |
| 15:18.40 | nvz | asg: not sure how to do that, but it would be an interesting thing to learn. is it as simple as making a script in /etc/init.d/ and linking it or is there some special incantation to make it official? i.e. managed by the init tools like update-rc.d or whatever |
| 15:18.59 | asg | nvz: look at /etc/init.d/skeleton for examples |
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| 15:19.18 | asg | nvz: you can manually link it if you wish or use update-rc.d |
| 15:19.54 | Masterkong | hmm |
| 15:20.02 | lakcaj | nvz, you don't need to have any special format, it can be a simple script, unless you want things like start/stop/restart to work properly, then you need to look at the skeleton file for example format. |
| 15:20.11 | nvz | bah now I got to go find out from the street dept why they are trimming that damn tree in front of emily's house.. I dont want to have a view of her ... |
| 15:20.18 | nvz | I bet she was bitching about it |
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| 15:20.41 | Masterkong | http://channels.debian.net/paste/662 |
| 15:21.05 | nvz | lakcaj: I got enought sense to know how to make a case statement with a parameter :P |
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| 15:21.15 | nvz | I dont need a skeleton without a brain to show me that one |
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| 15:21.38 | asg | Masterkong: it apparently isn't being started from there. Check ~/.bash_profile or /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 15:21.52 | laurens_ | anyone know how to make a terminal normal size (80x24) in ion3? |
| 15:22.05 | lord_rob | Hi again ! I do need to modify the script /etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action in order to enable auto dhcp on eth0 right ? (I know it will work this way but I'm wondering if debian doesn't provide another way) |
| 15:22.24 | nvz | actually I can just not look at emily.. its her having a view from her damn portch of my yard that I dont like |
| 15:22.28 | Masterkong | it is probable the latter |
| 15:22.48 | asg | Masterkong: paste whichever has 'bash_completion' in it |
| 15:22.51 | nvz | bitch is wired to 220vac problem is she runs on 9vdc |
| 15:22.58 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp you still here? =) |
| 15:23.18 | Masterkong | sorry asg |
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| 15:23.27 | nvz | if she can see my yard I wont even be able to sit out there with friends without here calling police, fire..etc and complaing about everything |
| 15:23.32 | Masterkong | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.43 | asg | Masterkong: no worries, glad you got it fixed |
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| 15:23.50 | Masterkong | i uncommented too much |
| 15:23.52 | Masterkong | hehe |
| 15:23.57 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: no ;-) |
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| 15:23.59 | pland | hello all |
| 15:24.01 | nvz | gonna have to run that bitch out of town with a flaming torch |
| 15:24.03 | Masterkong | but it doesn't work anyway |
| 15:24.10 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp ;) well that import command segment faulted =) |
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| 15:24.22 | pland | may I ask a question about usb subsystem here? or is there a more appropriate channel? |
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| 15:24.29 | asg | Masterkong: does it work if you manually source /etc/bash_completion? |
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| 15:24.39 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp so can it be anything else but cpu? |
| 15:24.45 | Masterkong | hmm.. |
| 15:24.50 | Masterkong | now its workin |
| 15:24.53 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: That heavily suggest faulty or overheated cpu, or faulty memory or hd. |
| 15:24.58 | Masterkong | thanx once again |
| 15:25.11 | nvz | or at least to a block thats not adjacent to mine |
| 15:25.18 | tryingtohelp | Lorvija: but cpu is the very most propable. |
| 15:25.38 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp can it be bad raid card? i have a cheap one installed.. though the hd's connected to it contain /home only |
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| 15:25.52 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp and i doubt overheated.. as its ~50C |
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| 15:26.16 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp do you know any specific tests which are done to test cpu? |
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| 15:27.25 | nvz | pland: ever heard the saying "shoot first ask questions later"? well around here you ask first, and we may shoot later |
| 15:28.22 | tryingtohelp | Lovija: never tried it, but package cpuburn could contain something. |
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| 15:28.27 | pland | nvz: thanks |
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| 15:29.01 | Lorvija | tryingtohelp okay thanks i'll try it out |
| 15:29.04 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.24 | nvz | until you say something we really don't know |
| 15:29.57 | pland | ok I am accessing a usb device using libusb in C, and it looks like syslog complains that it has been grabbed already by something looking suspiciously like an usb agent, through hotplug |
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| 15:30.28 | hcy | hi i'm trying now to use an old woody netboot for this sun ultra. it tells me it's going to let me partition the hard drive and then gives me a blank screen with "Command (m for help):" at the bottom. I read 'm'... but can someone please tell me what to do here? |
| 15:30.35 | pland | do I have to rmmod usb-uhci, or is there a safer way to ensure that the system doesn't grab the device and become jealous of anyone else trying? |
| 15:30.47 | hcy | i want to create a 380M swap disk and use the rest as an ext3 partition on / |
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| 15:31.12 | bomb | hcy: that is most likely fdisk, just hit 'm' for list of commands |
| 15:31.25 | hcy | yes, it gives me a list of abcd... |
| 15:31.28 | tryingtohelp | hcy: first look with p what partitions are already there. |
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| 15:31.49 | hcy | a yes, thanks, that's what i need |
| 15:31.53 | tryingtohelp | hcy: is this already a hd used for a sun or a newly build in harddisc? |
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| 15:32.00 | LSorensen | hcy: still friendlier than the partition tool solaris had last I installed that |
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| 15:33.08 | hcy | LSorensen: do you have experience putting debian on a sun? 'cause i've been having trouble with it all day |
| 15:33.36 | LSorensen | hcy: no I don't. I would not recomend bothering with woody though. the sarge installer is much nicer. |
| 15:33.49 | LSorensen | hcy: I have done x86, amd64 and mipsel personally. |
| 15:33.57 | LSorensen | hcy: oh and arm |
| 15:33.57 | hcy | LSorensen: i tried sarge first, it kept crashing in the middle |
| 15:34.05 | LSorensen | hcy: hmm, that's not nice of it |
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| 15:34.11 | tryingtohelp | hcy: if it is a harddisk not yet used in a Sun, make sure it gets a proper Solaris partition table, otherwise it will not be able to boot from it. |
| 15:34.21 | hcy | yeah, so someone here suggested i try using woody |
| 15:34.23 | LSorensen | hcy: does it offer both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels like some of the other archs do? |
| 15:34.33 | hcy | hasn't asked me that yet |
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| 15:34.42 | hcy | also netinst wouldn't work... only netboot |
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| 15:34.56 | LSorensen | hcy: yeah I have used netboot on mipsel |
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| 15:35.18 | tryingtohelp | LSorensen: for selecting that one would have to choose the fitting tftp-images, if they are available |
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| 15:38.12 | hcy | LSorensen: is "linux native" (83) - ext3? |
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| 15:38.24 | lakcaj | hcy, have you tried the linux26 option at the first prompt using the netinst CD? I've never used the netboot, so I don't know about that option with that. |
| 15:38.31 | WhiteRabbit | Kcd1, yes & 82 is swap |
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| 15:38.50 | hcy | lakcaj: no i haven't, maybe i'll try that next |
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| 15:39.19 | lakcaj | hcy, that will boot from a 2.6 kernel while installing, and install a 2.6 kernel by default to your new system |
| 15:39.26 | LSorensen | hcy: no linux native is a partition that uses any valid linux filesystem |
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| 15:39.51 | LSorensen | hcy: 83 is used for ext2/3,xfs,jfs,reiserfs,etc |
| 15:39.53 | pland | just in case someone looks at my usb question above, it looks like if I rmmod usb-uhci, the C code won't find the device at all |
| 15:40.07 | dumezil | whats the difference between suggested and recommended packages? |
| 15:40.08 | pland | how do I stop usb-uhci from just instantly grabbing the device? |
| 15:40.22 | hcy | good, thanks |
| 15:40.33 | pland | I need the system to leave the device alone and -not- mount it, so I can mount it from C... |
| 15:40.44 | hcy | it's doing a badblock scan on the drive now, which is good - i was wondering if it's having disk problems or network problems |
| 15:40.52 | valdyn | pland: 'from C' ? |
| 15:40.53 | LSorensen | dumezil: things like aptitude can be set to auto install recomended but not suggested and such. suggested packages make very little difference to the main functions of the packge. recomended packages can make big differences to the use of a package. |
| 15:41.12 | LSorensen | pland: what driver would you prefer run your usb ports? |
| 15:41.14 | valdyn | pland: why the hell would you remove a usb host driver to avoid mounting something? |
| 15:41.18 | tryingtohelp | dumezil: in meaning: suggesting is something that you might like to have also installed, recommended is something that you most likely want to have installed on the same computer. In effects do some tools like dselect almost force you to install recommended things. |
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| 15:41.36 | elephantman | Hi all |
| 15:41.50 | elephantman | Is there a way to repair unreadable jpeg files ? |
| 15:42.01 | pland | LSorensen: my problem is that I can't claim the device through the C code, because something in the system already does, through hotplug or something |
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| 15:42.18 | tryingtohelp | dumezil: a typical cause for recommend is that one needs to have it installed to make use of the program, but one can also have installed it on an other computer in the same net when configured properly. |
| 15:42.19 | pland | valdyn: because I was trying to test whether it -was- usb-uhci or not claiming it |
| 15:42.25 | valdyn | pland: it mounts that device? |
| 15:42.30 | pland | valdyn: it odes |
| 15:42.36 | pland | s/odes/does |
| 15:42.40 | LSorensen | pland: well you can't even access a usb device without your usb port driver. there may be another usb driver that recognizes the device and loads (like usb serial or usb palm or whatever) and you want to disable that |
| 15:42.41 | streuner | elephantman: restore from backups? |
| 15:42.46 | valdyn | pland: pmount does that usbmount does that, gnome-volume-manager does that. |
| 15:43.05 | valdyn | pland: you probably have one of those packages installed... |
| 15:43.16 | SimonRaven | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/blog/categories/activism/YahoohelpedjailChinawriter.html |
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| 15:43.38 | pland | LSorensen: and valdyn : so one of those packages could be claiming the device, but usb-hci is just doing it's job, so remove packages, not modules |
| 15:43.45 | valdyn | pland: drivers have nothing to do with that anyway |
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| 15:43.53 | streuner | !info recoverjpeg |
| 15:43.58 | dpkg | recoverjpeg: (Recover jpeg pictures from a filesystem image), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.1.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 18 kB |
| 15:44.02 | pland | I mean the point is that without usb-uhci, I can't even access the device from C, so there must be something else using it? |
| 15:44.10 | pland | valdyn: I understand |
| 15:44.12 | LSorensen | pland: or blacklist the driver those packages load. |
| 15:44.34 | LSorensen | pland: dmesg should show stuff when you plug the device in that could give a hint which usb driver is handling the device |
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| 15:44.43 | valdyn | pland: im not sure what you are talking about since cat /dev/whatever works even with a mounted device |
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| 15:45.33 | pland | LSorensen: dmesg says usb-uhci |
| 15:45.54 | yang | which file updates default gateway? |
| 15:45.56 | valdyn | !usb_storage |
| 15:45.56 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 15:46.08 | asg | yang: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:46.08 | valdyn | pland: ^^^ those things would be involved if it was mounted automatically |
| 15:46.09 | pland | valdyn: well the point is syslog complains that something has 'claimed' configuration1 of my device, which is what I want, when I try to load it using usb.h |
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| 15:46.34 | pland | valdyn: I see |
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| 15:47.27 | valdyn | pland: you're trying to write a device driver? |
| 15:47.51 | pland | valdyn: nope, it's a puredata external which uses usb.h (libusb) to access a custom-made USB IO box |
| 15:48.06 | pland | valdyn: I plug it in, and box says: |
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| 15:48.31 | bipolar | I'm trying to complete a tricky sarge install on an old laptop. Now when I boot I get stuck in a loop: "Configuring the base system"; "info: Switching console charset mapping to C". If I kill the process thats running it just restarts. I can't figure out how to fix this. |
| 15:49.00 | pland | valdyn: usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 |
| 15:49.02 | karma1 | the latest stable release for debian is 3.1 r0 not 3.1 r0a, correct? |
| 15:49.16 | pland | valdyn: usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices |
| 15:49.17 | asg | karma1: no, r0a is the latest |
| 15:49.25 | pland | valdyn: input: USB HID v1.00 Multi-Axis Controller [mamalala.de multI/O Box] on usb-0000:00:10.0-2 |
| 15:49.31 | asg | karma1: r0 is broken, hence the quick release of r0a |
| 15:49.42 | karma1 | asg: ahh, ok, ty |
| 15:49.45 | valdyn | pland: lsmod | grep hid |
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| 15:50.57 | poorlittleboy | hey all: in general (and im my case, libc6), when a package iwant requires a newer version of someting critical, how do i go upgrading ONLY what i want to upgrade and associated packages? can i do that, or does everything need to be upgraded? |
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| 15:51.23 | Gathond | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:51.30 | poorlittleboy | ugh |
| 15:51.33 | andre_m | what's the "system terminal font" displayed in gnome-terminal? |
| 15:51.33 | poorlittleboy | thank you |
| 15:51.34 | asg | poorlittleboy: what debian version are you using? |
| 15:51.45 | streuner | poorlittleboy: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 15:51.50 | pland | valdyn: no modules had hid in their name |
| 15:52.01 | Gathond | poorlittleboy: like, new libc6 might mean alot of other stuff wont work unless they are updated, and so on |
| 15:53.21 | valdyn | pland: hmm, its detecting a hid joystick, if usbhid isnt the module, then i dont know, try lsmod | grep hci, some joystick driver should be listed |
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| 15:53.34 | poorlittleboy | streuner: it says ii libc6 2.3.5-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 15:54.05 | poorlittleboy | gathond: i know, but im hoping to avoid it...im running a live CD distro, and im not sur eif any packages were custom to cope with read-only issues |
| 15:54.34 | Gathond | poorlittleboy: I would think some would be that yes |
| 15:54.39 | pland | valdyn: huh ok |
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| 15:55.01 | valdyn | pland: like: usbcore 132780 6 snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd |
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| 15:55.24 | valdyn | pland: in that case its snd_usb_audio that is 'claiming' that device. |
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| 15:56.33 | pland | valdyn: all I can see from lsmod | grep hci is : uhci_hcd and ehci_hcd |
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| 15:57.09 | LSorensen | pland: well it clearly is one of the hid/input drivers doing it then |
| 15:57.25 | valdyn | pland: are you even using a debian kernel? |
| 15:57.27 | LSorensen | pland: hci = host controller interface. |
| 15:57.40 | LSorensen | pland: as in usb port driver, not usb device driver |
| 15:58.15 | valdyn | that usbcore... line should appear no matter what. And it does contain hci |
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| 15:58.30 | LSorensen | pland: could be usbhid or something. |
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| 15:58.41 | LSorensen | pland: you are looking for 'hid' not 'hci' |
| 15:58.46 | Maneit | What would be the alsa dsp name for my microphone? :> |
| 15:58.48 | LSorensen | pland: human interface device |
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| 15:59.10 | valdyn | LSorensen: he claimed that wasn there, which lead me to believe he might not use a debian kernel. |
| 15:59.24 | madclicker | need info on hotwto traffic shape on debian |
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| 15:59.50 | LSorensen | valdyn: hmm, maybe |
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| 16:00.02 | LSorensen | valdyn: or a 2.4 kernel that might have had those built in |
| 16:00.07 | valdyn | madclicker: that is a very complicated topic, http://www.lartc.org/ |
| 16:00.09 | LSorensen | valdyn: for usb keyboard support and such |
| 16:00.12 | valdyn | LSorensen: ah yea |
| 16:00.12 | hcy | LSorensen: it wants me to pick all my modules... the newer install didn't do that... what do i do? how do i know what i need? |
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| 16:00.24 | manublast | hi |
| 16:00.30 | valdyn | !wondershaper |
| 16:00.30 | dpkg | from memory, wondershaper is a script which uses the traffic shaping features of the Linux kernel to fix some problems, including making downloads continue at full speed while uploads are happening at max rate, plus keeping good interactive response times while bulk transfers are busy |
| 16:00.40 | manublast | debian or ubuntu ? which choose ? |
| 16:00.47 | asg | manublast: debian obviously |
| 16:00.53 | manublast | and why ? |
| 16:00.55 | valdyn | manublast: which answer do you expect in #debian? |
| 16:00.57 | asg | manublast: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 16:00.59 | LSorensen | hcy: no clue on a sparc. and yes sarge auto detects your hardware if it can. woody just asks |
| 16:01.24 | lakcaj | Maneit, what is in /dev/snd/ ? |
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| 16:01.33 | hcy | will i be able to add modules later? just put the bare necessities for the meantime? |
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| 16:01.44 | debian_user | what the easiest way to install the 2.6 kernel on a new system? |
| 16:01.50 | valdyn | Maneit: you dont use device files with alsa. |
| 16:02.01 | asg | debian_user: apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install one from the list that is printed) |
| 16:02.05 | Maneit | lakcaj: controlC1, pcmC1D0c, pcmC1D0p and timer |
| 16:02.12 | manublast | debian or fedora ? |
| 16:02.14 | lakcaj | what are you trying to do? |
| 16:02.22 | Maneit | valdyn: okay.. whats the best way to check if my mic works with alsa? |
| 16:02.25 | debian_user | asg: that will do it automatically? |
| 16:02.26 | Anthro | debian_user: Figure out which processor variant you need, then apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.<whatever>-<processor> |
| 16:02.29 | manublast | debian or windows ? |
| 16:02.30 | asg | manublast: stop trolling |
| 16:02.32 | valdyn | Maneit: 'arecord' |
| 16:02.36 | lakcaj | Maneit, alsamixer and unmute mic |
| 16:02.41 | valdyn | Maneit: man aplay, man arecord |
| 16:02.42 | manublast | <troll> |
| 16:02.54 | asg | debian_user: no, it will give you a list of available kernels you can install. You then just apt-get install <kernel-image that fits your needs> |
| 16:02.56 | lakcaj | Maneit, you do'nt need to record to test it, but when you want to record, use arecord as valdyn suggested. |
| 16:03.27 | Maneit | lakcaj, valdyn: which package is alsamixer in? :> |
| 16:03.43 | lakcaj | alsa-utils ? |
| 16:03.45 | valdyn | !tell Maneit -about search |
| 16:03.56 | manublast | java rox |
| 16:04.00 | Maneit | thanks :) |
| 16:04.17 | lakcaj | !tell Maneit about alsa one-liner |
| 16:04.21 | manublast | c puxor |
| 16:04.33 | asg | !ops manublast is being a fucktard |
| 16:04.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: manublast is being a fucktard |
| 16:04.59 | helix | manublast: please stop |
| 16:05.10 | manublast | why ? |
| 16:05.19 | Ronin | because you were asked nicely for one thing |
| 16:05.23 | Lorvija | is 2.6 kernel known to have bugs more than 2.4? |
| 16:05.29 | lakcaj | because you are acting like an 8 year old and aren't impressing anyone |
| 16:05.31 | asg | Lorvija: in my experience, yes |
| 16:05.34 | helix | manublast: because if you don't I will have to ban you |
| 16:05.40 | helix | so please behave :) |
| 16:05.49 | madclicker | valdyn: thx |
| 16:05.52 | valdyn | Lorvija: not "more" per se, but 2.6 bugs changed and come unexpected |
| 16:05.52 | quad3datwork | beer beer said, private |
| 16:05.53 | Lee__ | Lorvija: like what bugs? |
| 16:05.58 | valdyn | Lorvija: not "more" per se, but 2.6 bugs change and come unexpected |
| 16:06.01 | manublast | ok |
| 16:06.02 | Lorvija | asg okay.. im so pissed off atm that i'm thinking of reinstalling whole server.. |
| 16:06.03 | manublast | o |
| 16:06.04 | manublast | k |
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| 16:06.18 | Gathond | Lorvija: probably not know to as in its proven (then one would fix them:)) but since its alot newer it probably has more bugs at the moment |
| 16:06.27 | Lorvija | Lee__ weird crashing, freezing and stuff |
| 16:06.34 | asg | Lorvija: the 2.6.11 debian image caused my CPU to reach such temps during booting that the box froze. This doesn't happen with 2.6.10 or the new 2.6.12. |
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| 16:06.51 | LSorensen | asg: weird |
| 16:07.09 | Lorvija | asg well i dont have problems with temperatures.. but just minute ago my loads just went sky high.. ~50 and the whole comp froze.. nothing helped but reboot.. |
| 16:07.15 | valdyn | Lorvija: that sounds like a hardware fault more than a kernel bug |
| 16:07.16 | asg | LSorensen: yeah, I was rather shocked. Also, the touchpad support was a little foobed. 2.6.12 looks good so far though. |
| 16:07.28 | drac | !info xserver-xorg testing |
| 16:07.34 | Lorvija | valdyn well that might be.. just cant come up with any idea what it might be.. |
| 16:07.35 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 (etch), Packaged size: 5563 kB, Installed size: 15696 kB |
| 16:07.36 | drac | yay :) |
| 16:07.50 | valdyn | Lorvija: try memtest86 |
| 16:07.57 | Lorvija | valdyn done, 8 passes 0 errors |
| 16:08.06 | valdyn | Lorvija: or compile a kernel, see if the compile fails |
| 16:08.15 | Lorvija | valdyn also checked my hd's it worked.. |
| 16:08.16 | quad3datwork | try to re-sit your cpu hsf? |
| 16:08.26 | asg | Lorvija: running latex on a large set of sources is a good cpu test also |
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| 16:08.29 | Lorvija | valdyn though pgp --import debian keyring seg faulted |
| 16:08.33 | valdyn | Lorvija: alright, so it could be a temperature caused fault still, memtest cant find that |
| 16:08.50 | Lorvija | valdyn if those sensors are right my cpu is only around 50C |
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| 16:09.03 | asg | Lorvija: you might also open the box and make sure all your cards, cpu, and memory are properly seated. |
| 16:09.17 | louish | hi all. Is there a way I can get a history of what & when I installed programs from the command line? i.e. apt-get upgrade ? |
| 16:09.22 | valdyn | Lorvija: sensors lie. the sensor on your cpu is a small thing in one corner, it can overheat in the other, some cpu even have their sensor on the coolest corner |
| 16:09.23 | hcy | will i be able to add modules later? i plan on doing a dist-upgrade to sid once it's working |
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| 16:09.29 | Lorvija | asg hmm might do that.. though I'm _noob_ when it comes to that (: |
| 16:09.40 | LSorensen | hcy: sure |
| 16:09.41 | Lorvija | valdyn hmm okay |
| 16:09.43 | asg | louish: /var/log/dpkg.log (if you use unstable) |
| 16:09.49 | LSorensen | hc might want to upgrade to sarge then sid. |
| 16:09.53 | asg | louish: if no, look at the file times in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 16:10.03 | LSorensen | hcy: going from woody to sid is probably not a good idea |
| 16:10.05 | valdyn | Lorvija: that assumes that your heat conducting paste or pad is screwy, then temperatures can vary extremely across the die |
| 16:10.06 | Lorvija | valdyn do you know any good cpu test? cpuburn? |
| 16:10.09 | louish | asg, ty |
| 16:10.13 | hcy | LSorensen: ok is there anything that i need for sure that i shouldn't leave out now? |
| 16:10.13 | quad3datwork | unconnect everything and replug. if still fails some part of your system components (i.e. mobo, cpu...etc) might be failing |
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| 16:10.15 | valdyn | Lorvija: compiling a kernel |
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| 16:10.37 | LSorensen | hcy: not sure. check release notes of sarge. a few archs needed a kernel upgrade manually before upgrading due to libc issues |
| 16:10.43 | Lorvija | valdyn hmm i hate that (: done it only 1 succesfully /: do you know any specific test for cpu? |
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| 16:10.44 | valdyn | Lorvija: if that fails and different stages, then its likely a hardware error. |
| 16:10.50 | bomb | yo, how do i prevent my screen from blanking out while watching a movie in totem? |
| 16:11.00 | asg | bomb: man xset |
| 16:11.01 | Lee__ | bomb: turn off your screensaver? |
| 16:11.03 | LSorensen | bomb: xset s off |
| 16:11.03 | valdyn | Lorvija: uh? you dont have to use that kernel, just compile any kernel. |
| 16:11.12 | bomb | does the DPMS option in xorg.conf have something to do with that? |
| 16:11.15 | LSorensen | bomb: most good video players do that automatically when playing |
| 16:11.18 | bomb | no screensaver on |
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| 16:11.37 | Ronin | power management? |
| 16:11.40 | LSorensen | bomb: never used totem, so can't say if it is decent or not |
| 16:11.44 | Lorvija | valdyn hmm okay.. i'll try that then... |
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| 16:12.34 | zedkatuf | Anyone know how to help with an apt-get problem; the output at http://pastebin.ca/22386 is porbably self-explanatory.....it's to do with the followgin "WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed |
| 16:12.34 | zedkatuf | This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! |
| 16:12.36 | zedkatuf | " |
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| 16:12.52 | hcy | LSorensen: it says "installing base system", but at the top left there's a message "cannot create /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe: directory nonexistent" -- problem? |
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| 16:13.13 | LSorensen | hcy: no idea |
| 16:13.21 | asg | zedkatuf: gah, what did you do to your sources list? |
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| 16:13.23 | valdyn | Lorvija: 'internal compiler error' -> probably hardware fault. |
| 16:13.23 | hcy | ok well we'll see what happens |
| 16:13.35 | Lorvija | valdyn okay, i'll check it out if that happens |
| 16:13.39 | hikenboot | hello all i have a compiler problem it tells me the date is in the future on numerous files how would i go about resolving this issue would i use /how would i use the "touch command" for many files? |
| 16:13.45 | hikenboot | and would this cause problems |
| 16:13.53 | Lee__ | hikenboot: man touch |
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| 16:14.11 | apoppuu | how do i install nvidia geforce 4? |
| 16:14.19 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 16:14.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 16:14.19 | asg | !nvidia one-liner |
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| 16:14.26 | Gathond | apoppuu: put in into the appropiate slot :) |
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| 16:14.35 | valdyn | !lose asg |
| 16:14.36 | dpkg | asg: You Lose. |
| 16:14.44 | asg | valdyn: wouldn't be the first time ;) |
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| 16:15.04 | hikenboot | man tells me to specify the parameter as in touch -a <filename> how would i specify a wild card and could this cause damage? |
| 16:15.33 | Lee__ | hikenboot: you specify any bash compatible wildcard. |
| 16:15.41 | Lee__ | if that's your shell, of course. |
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| 16:15.58 | hikenboot | would doing this cause a system problem? |
| 16:16.03 | zedkatuf | asg: it's a list I've used alot on other machines without any problems.....I basically installed knoppix to HD on a machine & then scp'd over the sources.list that I've ben using on other machines...and then did an apt-get update (this hasn't caused probs in the two years taht I've been doing this with various knoppix installs) |
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| 16:16.45 | apoppuu | !non-free sources |
| 16:16.45 | dpkg | methinks non-free sources is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then apt-get update, or but bear in mind that you'll be installing non-free software. This may have onerous terms; check the licenses. |
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| 16:17.40 | asg | zedkatuf: well, knoppix and your custom list are having dependancy issues. Are you using testing or sid sources in your list? |
| 16:17.44 | danistar__ | oi |
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| 16:17.58 | Lee__ | hikenboot: it would change the date modified times on the files you specify. What exactly is your problem? |
| 16:18.01 | danistar__ | oi |
| 16:18.09 | Lee__ | soy not oi |
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| 16:18.14 | asg | !tell dpkg about ask |
| 16:18.16 | asg | bah |
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| 16:18.29 | danistar__ | oi |
| 16:18.42 | Ronin | yes danistar__ we see you |
| 16:18.45 | asg | danistar__: ask a question or go be annoying elsewhere |
| 16:18.59 | danistar__ | oi |
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| 16:19.15 | zedkatuf | asg: http://projectgalileo.homelinux.net:8090/~galileo/robodome/sources.list is my sources.list |
| 16:19.20 | Lee__ | !smite danistar__ |
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| 16:19.27 | danistar__ | oi |
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| 16:19.59 | danistar__ | oi |
| 16:20.07 | azeem | !ops danistar__ is being annoying |
| 16:20.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: danistar__ is being annoying |
| 16:20.16 | Ronin | never mind azeem beat me to it |
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| 16:20.32 | asg | zedkatuf: ouch, I wouldn't know where to start with that one. |
| 16:20.33 | asg | zedkatuf: asg@rob:~$ wc -l /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:20.33 | asg | 3 /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:20.42 | clavner | I tried searching the net but I canot find anyway to enable function keys on my laptop (COMPAQ Evo n620c) on X.org. Seems it worked out of the box for Xfree users. Any Idea how I can enable them? |
| 16:21.03 | valdyn | clavner: 'F1' etc? |
| 16:21.09 | valdyn | clavner: or which function keys? |
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| 16:22.03 | clavner | valdyn, FN+F1 etc |
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| 16:22.22 | clavner | FN is pressed to add extra functionality to the function keys |
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| 16:22.39 | nvz | well I just figured out what the comotion was that woke me up at around 6am this morning. our rail road crossing claimed another victim, this time they werent killed by a train though. I cant wait to follow this case. |
| 16:22.40 | owh | Greetings all. |
| 16:23.03 | asg | nvz: someone was run down by a car while walking the tracks? |
| 16:23.06 | valdyn | clavner: those do work via acpi i guess, apt-get install acpid; tail -f /var/log/acpid; hit the keys to see |
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| 16:23.36 | clavner | valdyn, thanks will try that |
| 16:23.49 | valdyn | clavner: they having nothing to do with Xfree or Xorg |
| 16:24.01 | asg | zedkatuf: you can use 'apt-cache policy <pkg>' to get an idea which of those sources is trying to remove critical items (such as e2fsprogs) |
| 16:24.26 | owh | I've implemented an ssh tunnel using a preconnect script with fetchmail. As part of suggestions made here I put my ssh keys in /var/run/fetchmail/.ssh, and as I suspected, a reboot cleared them out. Has anyone got any comment to make about how I might go about dealing with that? |
| 16:24.29 | nvz | asg: no someone in a car was sitting there with a right turn signal on when they had the right of way to make the turn and an open turning lane.. and a tractor trailor started to pull across the tracks thinking he would turn, but he didnt.. then a train started comming and the trailor driver pushed the car out into traffic and killed him cause the idiot left him no choice |
| 16:24.31 | clavner | valdyn, doesnt work :( |
| 16:25.02 | asg | nvz: ah, the ruthless machinations of fate |
| 16:25.15 | hcy | LSorensen: it did the download, started extracting, and now said "Warning - Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install // /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.0.2_sparc.deb // /var/blah.../base-passwd_3.4.1_sparc.deb |
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| 16:25.21 | hcy | what do i do now? |
| 16:25.56 | owh | nvz: I suspect that the tractor trailor driver will be prosecuted for dangerous driving. |
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| 16:26.16 | nvz | asg: granted a driver of a tractor trailor should know to stay clear of a crossing until there is room.. but if he had seen the person was making a turn into an open turning lane with the right-of-way and proceeded through the crossing only to be sitting behind the idiot who wouldnt move for long enough for a train to come.. then I'd say its their fault not the truck drivers |
| 16:26.37 | nvz | asg: I can't wait to see what happens |
| 16:26.38 | asg | nvz: could go either way |
| 16:26.41 | hcy | i don't know what's going on with this computer :(( I gotta run, I'll be back in a couple of hours to continue trying to get it |
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| 16:28.45 | FlimFlamMan | anyone know if i can take an rdiff-backup directory from one location and move it to another, and continue to back up to it? |
| 16:28.56 | outlaw84 | I am looking for a C++ IDE developement tool for KDE, does anyone of you know off any ? |
| 16:28.58 | nvz | our crossing is very unsafe and has claimed many lives over the years. since the Leet bridge has a weight limit and commercial vehicles arent allowed on the main road to get to it anyhow most traffic is forced to use the crossing. |
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| 16:29.08 | psnl | outlaw84: Kdevelop? |
| 16:29.48 | nvz | they've been planning an overpass for like 8years or so now.. it should be getting underway with construction sometime soon |
| 16:30.03 | outlaw84 | psnl: is that in the official debian repository? I can find it with apt-cache |
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| 16:30.32 | psnl | it should be |
| 16:30.40 | zedkatuf | asg: sorry, wrong version - that was the default that was on the knoppix cd..I've updated the url with the correct version at same URL: |
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| 16:30.44 | zedkatuf | asg: http://projectgalileo.homelinux.net:8090/~galileo/robodome/sources.list is my sources.list |
| 16:31.03 | psnl | outlaw84: kdevelop3 |
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| 16:31.18 | psnl | is the package basename |
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| 16:31.44 | ParagonX | does anyone have gizmo? |
| 16:31.52 | outlaw84 | psnl: the people in #debian-. |
| 16:32.00 | nvz | I got lots of gadgets and gizmos |
| 16:32.07 | owh | ROTFL |
| 16:32.12 | outlaw84 | psnl: the people in #debian-kde say its not installable right now for sid |
| 16:32.14 | nvz | thing-a-mabobs and dodads |
| 16:32.15 | ParagonX | as in, gizmoproject.com |
| 16:32.26 | nvz | whatca-macallits |
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| 16:32.29 | nvz | and whatnots |
| 16:32.48 | owh | nvz: Doodads? |
| 16:32.49 | ParagonX | i'd like to test it out |
| 16:32.57 | nvz | owh: something like that |
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| 16:33.10 | Om | Are there known issues with mouse scrollwheels on xorg? Or is it just my config? |
| 16:33.10 | psnl | outlaw84: if you want your box to work all the time, don't run sid |
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| 16:33.23 | ParagonX | Om: works for me |
| 16:33.26 | nvz | Om: probably just your config |
| 16:33.44 | owh | Om, you likely need to add some mapping, one mo... |
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| 16:33.54 | ParagonX | anyone willing to get gizmo then? |
| 16:34.04 | ParagonX | it's like skype, only open |
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| 16:34.17 | nvz | ah.. sgeigerbot talked me into testing skype |
| 16:34.52 | nvz | I don't have a mic right now to be testing out gizmos |
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| 16:35.05 | nvz | sgeigerbot: ping! |
| 16:35.06 | owh | Om, in my config (XFree-4), There is a line in my input device: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 16:35.07 | asg | zedkatuf: well, I'd be willing to be that the unstable sources are causing the issue since unstable can go through large changes. |
| 16:35.08 | sgeigerbot | nvz: pong |
| 16:35.16 | nvz | sgeigerbot: want to test his gizmo :P |
| 16:35.22 | ParagonX | heh |
| 16:35.33 | Om | Hmm, I already have that. owh. |
| 16:35.36 | bomb | he shouldn't have to add that option unless he is using some funky mouse |
| 16:35.52 | sgeigerbot | nvz: No, I'm busy. Besides, I have an echo problem with skype on this laptop. An annoying problem that I have spent too much time on. |
| 16:35.53 | bomb | Om: try installing mdetect and then reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 16:36.03 | ParagonX | bomb: a 'funky mouse' being a mouse with multiple buttons |
| 16:36.09 | ParagonX | i need a similar line in my config |
| 16:36.12 | Bright_Light | hello. I stoped the portmap service from all /etc/rc*.d .. but it still starts at startup .. why is that ? |
| 16:36.23 | Om | I already have mdetect. |
| 16:36.24 | nvz | sgeigerbot: heh, alright. well he says gizmo is an open solution.. so it must be better than skype :P |
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| 16:36.47 | psnl | Bright_Light: /etc/init.d ? |
| 16:36.58 | Lorvija | valdyn? i tried to build that kernel. it segmented several times when trying "make"... so i guess it must be hw issue? |
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| 16:37.16 | bomb | ParagonX: i didn't mean he doesn't need that option |
| 16:37.25 | bomb | debconf should have put that in xorg.conf for him is what i meant |
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| 16:37.57 | Subvertir | Hi guys, I just installed the IPMasq package on unstable, I was wondering when it started kicking so much ass? |
| 16:38.01 | Bright_Light | psnl: yeah it is in /etc/init.d ... how do i disable it? |
| 16:38.01 | Om | bomb, it had |
| 16:38.09 | ParagonX | bomb: i'm just questioning your use of the phrase "funky mouse" :p |
| 16:38.10 | asg | nvz: don't forget the salt |
| 16:38.14 | Subvertir | It seems to support pretty much everything... DCC transfers, games, etc |
| 16:38.24 | ParagonX | mine uses: Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" |
| 16:38.33 | Om | mdetect doesn't seem to be able to find my mouse. |
| 16:38.43 | bomb | Om: what kind of mouse |
| 16:38.49 | Om | (PS/2, plugged into a laptop) |
| 16:39.05 | streuner | Om: did you use the right options? |
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| 16:39.31 | Lorvija | valdyn still here? (: or are you afk? |
| 16:39.31 | nvz | reminds me of that one episode of friends.. where Monica sends Rachel over to Ross's apartment for the Tequilla then calls her and tells her to get Margarita mix and salt to and she says "All we had was ice?" and then monica says "get some ice too" :P |
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| 16:39.39 | ParagonX | so no one has gizmo (gizmoproject.com) or is willing to get it? |
| 16:39.47 | psnl | Bright_Light: you could uninstall it, or attack /etc/init.d with vi |
| 16:39.49 | Om | /dev/psaux, "PS/2" |
| 16:39.59 | nvz | I got the ice.. I am missing the rest, myself |
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| 16:40.24 | Om | For Device and Protocol |
| 16:41.05 | nvz | Om: I dont know that PS/2 supports scrolling.. I dont think it did in xfree86 anyhow |
| 16:41.14 | Om | It used to work with XFree. |
| 16:41.23 | nvz | Om: you needed Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" anyhow |
| 16:41.36 | cahoot | Om: try ExplorerPS/2 |
| 16:41.42 | nvz | and I thought you needed a scroll capable protocol like ImPS/2 or something |
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| 16:42.00 | Bright_Light | psnl: thanks |
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| 16:42.13 | bomb | i thought that too, that's why i always used ImPS/2 |
| 16:42.15 | owh | Anyone here got any experience with fetchmail? |
| 16:42.27 | Om | Hmm, looking at my old XFree config, there's one entry using /dec/psaux and "PS/2", and another using "/dev/input/mice" and "ImPS/2" |
| 16:42.38 | asg | another roller in the night |
| 16:42.46 | nvz | I like to make fun of that song when I hear it. I say duche |
| 16:42.46 | Om | Which /dev/* should I use? |
| 16:42.53 | asg | nvz: so does everyone else |
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| 16:43.05 | bomb | Om: you could try /dev/input/mice, that's what i am using even though my mouse is PS/2 |
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| 16:43.49 | Subvertir | if any of you did any work on the ipmasq package: you fucking rock |
| 16:43.57 | Om | Hmm, does Xorg have a way of rehashing? Or do I have to restart it? |
| 16:44.04 | bomb | Om: restart X |
| 16:44.09 | Om | Okay, brb. |
| 16:44.21 | nvz | I don't even remember off hand what song that is or who sings it |
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| 16:45.10 | Om | Still no scrolling. |
| 16:45.12 | asg | nvz: 2nd hit on 'google blinded by the light' |
| 16:45.23 | nvz | asg: yeah I am still waiting for firefox :P |
| 16:46.05 | nvz | no way, thats Bruce Springsteen.. its Manfred Mann |
| 16:46.17 | Ronin | same song though isnt it nvz |
| 16:46.37 | nvz | I dunno never heard bruce springsteen do it |
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| 16:47.07 | Ronin | yep same song |
| 16:47.24 | Om | Still no luck. |
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| 16:47.44 | nvz | that song is so misinterpreted.. I've been listening to it for like 10 years probably and still dont know the words |
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| 16:48.09 | Om | Also, where can I set X's font size? |
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| 16:48.13 | bomb | Om: try googling your exact brand/model mouse, see if you can find any example xorg/xfree86 configs |
| 16:48.21 | Om | Okey :) |
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| 16:48.38 | streuner | Om: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 16:48.58 | streuner | might be an HOWTO there |
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| 16:49.11 | nvz | oh well since I fired up the fox I might as well find something to goonulate |
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| 16:51.13 | haggai | owh: if you want to know something about fetchmail, just ask what you'd like to know. There'll be plenty of people here who know how to use it |
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| 16:52.17 | sgeigerbot | nvz: I'm going to be in Austin this weekend. |
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| 16:52.44 | zedkatuf | asg: thanks for your comments....I did apt-cache policy sysvinit & it came up with http://pastebin.ca/22390 |
| 16:52.56 | nvz | hmm I just realized finagle is a real word and I've been using it wrong.. and that goonulation isnt widely understood to mean anything |
| 16:53.03 | Lorvija | when trying to build a kernel it always segment faults and says internal error.. is it hardware problem? (instable hw) |
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| 16:53.23 | Robot101 | Lorvija: sounds a lot like bad RAM or an overheating CPU |
| 16:53.25 | nvz | sgeigerbot: whats the relevance of that, or do you just feel since I blurt random things I would be interested? |
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| 16:53.36 | owh | haggai: I did and there were no takers :( |
| 16:53.37 | zedkatuf | asg: so if I comment out the unstables section in sources.list &then redo apt-get update maybe that'll cure it perhaps..... |
| 16:53.37 | sgeigerbot | nvz: We will be in the same state. |
| 16:53.41 | Robot101 | Lorvija: install memtest86 and run it for a few cycles |
| 16:53.41 | sgeigerbot | (drunk) |
| 16:53.47 | Lorvija | Robot101 well i tried memtest86 and run 8 passes.. 0 errors.. so propably bad cpu or overheating? |
| 16:53.47 | nvz | sgeigerbot: I doubt it |
| 16:53.51 | asg | zedkatuf: right so it looks like whatever your installing or updating requires the unstable or testing version, not the one installed. |
| 16:53.52 | Robot101 | Lorvija: hmm |
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| 16:54.01 | owh | haggai: I've implemented an ssh tunnel using a preconnect script with fetchmail. As part of suggestions made here I put my ssh keys in /var/run/fetchmail/.ssh, and as I suspected, a reboot cleared them out. Has anyone got any comment to make about how I might go about dealing with that? |
| 16:54.15 | zedkatuf | asg: just tried my idea but still get same error... |
| 16:54.16 | Robot101 | Lorvija: try something like mprime in it's CPU torture modew |
| 16:54.24 | zedkatuf | ...so mebbe I should just try stable for now?? |
| 16:54.38 | Lorvija | Robot101 does it have debian package? |
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| 16:54.42 | asg | owh: put them in your /home |
| 16:55.09 | zedkatuf | asg: in apt.conf I have testing as Default-Release..mebbe I should roll it back to stable perhaps ??? |
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| 16:55.19 | asg | zedkatuf: you can try. |
| 16:55.22 | zedkatuf | :) |
| 16:55.23 | owh | asg: How can I get fetchmail to use them while its running as the fetchmail user. |
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| 16:55.34 | Robot101 | Lorvija: no but you can just grab a tarball with a binary to run off their site |
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| 16:55.42 | Lorvija | Robot101 okay |
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| 16:55.46 | Robot101 | Lorvija: it's remarkably effective at flushing out CPU issues :) |
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| 16:55.53 | Lorvija | Robot101 heh okay =) |
| 16:55.54 | asg | owh: you have a fetcmail user? put them in fetchmail's home. |
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| 16:56.17 | owh | asg: fetchmail's home under debian is /var/run/fetchmail :) |
| 16:56.22 | asg | owh: or /var/lib/fetchmail then |
| 16:56.36 | Om | *doh* |
| 16:56.37 | Lorvija | Robot101 uhm.. whats the mprime homepage? (: |
| 16:56.40 | Om | I typoed the config option ;\ |
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| 16:57.11 | Om | XAxisMapping doesn't help, having a Z does. |
| 16:57.20 | ryu | hi |
| 16:57.21 | JerJer[mobile] | has anyone ever successfully loaded a Dell 1425 with SCSI ? |
| 16:57.27 | Om | Now I just need to sort out the fonts... |
| 16:57.37 | asg | Om: /msg dpkg font guide |
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| 16:57.48 | owh | asg: I don't know, but I'm going to see if I can get .ssh to use a directory other than ~/.ssh, that would fix my problem :) Your suggestion for using /var/lib/fetchmail was a good one. |
| 16:57.50 | Om | Ahhh, thanks. |
| 16:57.52 | Robot101 | Lorvija: http://entropia.com/ips/index.html |
| 16:57.54 | JerJer[mobile] | we here positively cannot make debian see the SCSI controller |
| 16:58.06 | Lorvija | Robot101 thanks (: |
| 16:58.17 | JerJer[mobile] | i even found a custom Dell ISO that states it works with the 1425, but damned if i can make it work |
| 16:58.23 | zedkatuf | asg: still giving me same horrible warning error message even if I try default release as stable :( |
| 16:58.24 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: it probably doesn't autodetect the megaraid driver. When you get to the first install screen, try 'ALT+F2' and doing 'modprobe megaraid' |
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| 16:58.55 | Lorvija | Robot101 is that page down? |
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| 16:59.00 | asg | zedkatuf: you might ask #knoppix. Chances are someone there has run into the same issue. |
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| 16:59.02 | Robot101 | Lorvija: might be actually |
| 16:59.04 | JerJer[mobile] | i get Cant open dependencies file |
| 16:59.11 | zedkatuf | ok, good idea tnx |
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| 16:59.18 | Robot101 | Lorvija: I'm on a really slow net connection anyway so it's hard to tell |
| 16:59.21 | zedkatuf | join #knoppix |
| 16:59.24 | zedkatuf | :P |
| 16:59.28 | nvz | hey that accident I was talking about made news coverage already they got pictures http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0908/4948713_400X300.jpg || http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0908/4948714_400X300.jpg |
| 16:59.32 | Lorvija | well im on broadband and it doesnt load anything.. (: |
| 16:59.34 | Mstr_Cstr | anybody know how to fix this probel after upgrading the kernel: VFS: Cannot open root device "303" or unknown-block (3,3) |
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| 16:59.41 | Lorvija | Robot101 do you know any other prog? |
| 16:59.46 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: no matter what i mod probe - cuz there is nothing in the kernel modules dir |
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| 17:00.09 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
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| 17:00.19 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: from the install cd? Maybe go to just before the partitioning phase of the installer (it might not have installed the modules at that point) |
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| 17:00.38 | JerJer[mobile] | tells me it cannot find any HDs |
| 17:00.41 | Robot101 | Lorvija: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A//www.mersenne.org/ maybe |
| 17:00.48 | Mstr_Cstr | streuner: Linux version 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 17:01.01 | Robot101 | Lorvija: sorry about the google nonsense, www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm |
| 17:01.05 | Mstr_Cstr | but i tried upgrading to 2.6.11 |
| 17:01.06 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: we need the whole output |
| 17:01.10 | Lorvija | Robot101 hmm yea that, i'll try =) and no prob (: |
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| 17:01.22 | Mstr_Cstr | ok |
| 17:01.27 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: Linux version 2.4.18-bf2.4 (root@zombie) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 |
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| 17:01.51 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: lilo? |
| 17:01.56 | Mstr_Cstr | struner: yes |
| 17:02.01 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: i even found a custom dell iso - no luck http://staff.osuosl.org/~kveton/debian/debian-dell-2.4.31.iso |
| 17:02.25 | JerJer[mobile] | wrong url ---- right one: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers |
| 17:02.41 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: fyi, i used apt-get install (preferred kernel image) to update the kernel |
| 17:02.43 | flipmcf | hi. pretty new install here. tried to play with iptables and got the "iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?)" obviously kern support was not given on install. Is there an easy way to remedy this without a recompile? Maybe a module? |
| 17:02.45 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: well, after you get to the 'partitioning' phase (where it indicates no installable media) did you try manually modprobing megaraid or megaraid2 from the ALT+F2 console |
| 17:03.09 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: fix /etc/lilo.conf and put initrd line into that |
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| 17:03.10 | Mstr_Cstr | flipmcf: modconf |
| 17:03.19 | asg | Mstr_Cstr: iirc, the bf2.4 kernel doesn't have iptables |
| 17:03.29 | Om | Err, is there a guide for setting up display sizes for fonts? Rather than how to install them? :) |
| 17:03.34 | asg | Mstr_Cstr: oops, my mistake |
| 17:03.42 | asg | flipmcf: what kernel are you using? |
| 17:03.48 | amo-ej1 | anybody have any idea how to get a MPEG AAC Audio encoder working in VLC under debian ? |
| 17:03.50 | Om | They're just minute since I installed x.org |
| 17:03.56 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: run 'lilo -v' without errors |
| 17:03.56 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: same error (can't open depenancies file) |
| 17:03.59 | asg | Om: you mean -dpi |
| 17:04.20 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: did you try with both the linux and linux26 boot kernels? |
| 17:04.23 | Om | Errr, yeah, I think so. |
| 17:04.25 | flipmcf | asg, oh, yuck! I'd rather not admit now after checking! |
| 17:04.27 | flipmcf | lol |
| 17:04.32 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: could you be more specific about editing lilo.conf... |
| 17:04.36 | asg | flipmcf: idepci? |
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| 17:04.40 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: i've always just used the defaults |
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| 17:05.12 | asg | Om: well, if you are using simple startx, check /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc. If you use gdm or some such, look for those configs in /etc/X11 and change the -dpi setting. |
| 17:05.26 | Om | Okey :) |
| 17:05.30 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: waht does the initrd line that i create look like exactly? |
| 17:05.37 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: read man lilo.conf - there is an example about (initrd=initrd.img) |
| 17:05.41 | flipmcf | asg nope. I did a vanilla install. it's on old hardware |
| 17:05.50 | flipmcf | asg pI 133. |
| 17:06.05 | flipmcf | and installed suprisingly well (kudos to debian) |
| 17:06.16 | valdyn | Om: man xorg.conf. search 'DisplaySize' |
| 17:06.16 | flipmcf | even worked with my isa nic |
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| 17:07.08 | asg | flipmcf: hehe |
| 17:07.12 | flipmcf | yeah |
| 17:07.14 | flipmcf | laugh it up |
| 17:07.18 | asg | flipmcf: that would do it :) |
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| 17:07.38 | flipmcf | lucky i'm a hobbyist, huh? |
| 17:07.38 | s0n1 | someone see this erro in debian+splashy |
| 17:07.39 | s0n1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.44 | s0n1 | in splashy boot |
| 17:07.49 | asg | flipmcf: an easy mistake to make |
| 17:08.07 | flipmcf | asg well, baring the hw that I was installing on, 'vanilla' seemed most appropriate |
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| 17:08.33 | asg | flipmcf: true |
| 17:08.44 | zedkatuf | asg: The apt-cache policy sysvinit gives http://pastebin.ca/22390 ...any ideas what that means? |
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| 17:09.06 | flipmcf | asg: so back to topic. maybe there is a net module I can stick in there to get iptables working. or am I totally sol? |
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| 17:09.41 | asg | zedkatuf: it means that whatever knoppix installed is the one to be used by default. If you install some software that requires Debian's sysvinit package, it has to remove it to meet a dependancy. |
| 17:10.08 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: the dell specific iso does not have a linux26 boot option |
| 17:10.08 | asg | flipmcf: with 2.2.20 you can use ipchains (stateless) or installa 2.4.x series or 2.6.x series kernel for iptables (statefull) |
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| 17:10.14 | Lee__ | flipmcf: it's called iptables |
| 17:10.22 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: I know, the debian sarge installer does though. |
| 17:10.26 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: i am attempting to use the netinstall iso i have, but it failed last time we tried it |
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| 17:11.08 | zedkatuf | asg: removing sysvinit...is that necessarily a BAD thing whilst the system is actually running? |
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| 17:11.38 | flipmcf | think the easiest is to backport my brain and man up on ipchains |
| 17:11.41 | asg | zedkatuf: no but your system will not boot if you shutdown without fixing the issue. |
| 17:11.43 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: ok, I understand the syntax for initrd in the lilo.conf file, but I don't know which file to point it at! |
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| 17:12.00 | owh | asg: Hmm, nice idea, but ssh wants its stuff in $HOME/.ssh, only the id file can be overridden from the command line, not known_hosts etc. If I run HOME=/var/lib/fetchmail ssh blah@example.com, it doesn't actually use the keys at all. |
| 17:12.02 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: i don't see anything that jumps out at me in the /etc/init.d directory |
| 17:12.15 | asg | zedkatuf: that's why the knoppix -> debian / hybrid is always dicey. |
| 17:12.19 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: fix /etc/lilo.conf |
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| 17:12.26 | asg | owh: ssh can be told where to look |
| 17:12.31 | green_earz | JerJer[mobile]: is the iso for a 386 ? and did you download the iso over http ? |
| 17:12.40 | zedkatuf | asg: yes, I see..not had the problem until yesterday........mebbe I've just been fortunate |
| 17:12.43 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: fix command not found |
| 17:12.47 | Bac9 | this is so stupid, tried updating a box to xorg, xorg will not start up the window manager but will start up the xterm (while processing the same .xsession file), then if I try to start up the window manager from the xterm xorg crashes |
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| 17:13.05 | Om | Right, everything seems to be working. Thanks everyone for your help! :) |
| 17:13.16 | asg | owh: if not, just change fetchmail's user dir to something more permanent (like /var/lib/fetchmail) |
| 17:13.21 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: fix=(correct) |
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| 17:13.28 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: use an editor |
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| 17:13.43 | asg | zedkatuf: I think you have. I'm surprised you've managed to go as long as you have without a problem. |
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| 17:13.46 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: i'm sorry, but I just don't know what to fix |
| 17:13.51 | owh | asg: Hmm, that's an idea. |
| 17:14.04 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: i understand i have to add an initrd= line into lilo.conf |
| 17:14.18 | Mstr_Cstr | struner: but initrd= ...what?? |
| 17:14.23 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: ok just ran the net install iso again and modprobe megaraid didn't complain, but i still get a 'no partionable media found' |
| 17:14.37 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: /ls -l /boot/init*.img |
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| 17:14.50 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: ls -l /boot/init*.img |
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| 17:15.10 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: then it might be a different card. What does dmesg show after you modprobed megaraid? |
| 17:15.14 | JerJer[mobile] | green_earz: do you have an appropriate link for me? like the appropriate net install iso i should be using? |
| 17:16.07 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: nothing relevant - the server has a Adaptec 39320 controller |
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| 17:16.37 | Mstr_Cstr | struener: initrd=initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 17:16.45 | nvz | man, I knew something was missing and I just realized what it is.. how the hell do I get my menu bar back in firefox? I seem to have made it vanish |
| 17:16.49 | Mstr_Cstr | struenr: does that seem right? |
| 17:16.54 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: looks ok |
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| 17:17.34 | streuner | Mstr_Cstr: use the full path to the file |
| 17:17.47 | nvz | nm I was in fullscreen mode or some dumb shit |
| 17:17.49 | green_earz | JerJer[mobile]: the boot cd will not let you have the option of the 2.6 kernel. so have you integrity checked the image. md5sum or from the installer it self ? |
| 17:17.58 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Adaptec+39320+controller+debian+sarge&btnG=Google+Search (looks like a known issue. Perhaps there is something there that can give you some ideas) |
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| 17:18.44 | owh | asg: Hmm, the hole seems to get bigger. If I change fetchmail's home directory in /etc/passwd, then the PID file isn't found and /etc/init.d/fetchmail awaken no longer works. |
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| 17:19.43 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: yeah i've search on those exact keywords - and am using that Debian on Dell Servers - Confluence ISO |
| 17:19.47 | JerJer[mobile] | well i triedi t |
| 17:19.48 | JerJer[mobile] | it |
| 17:19.58 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: ah, okay |
| 17:20.09 | geemark | why does my apache state it it cannot find my "fully qualified domain name" - also, java seems to have problems obtaining the local IP.... |
| 17:20.16 | clavner | I can only access computers on my windows network using smb://compname when I use konqueror as root. Is there ayway I can do it being normal user? |
| 17:20.33 | zedkatuf | check /etc/hosts & entry in apache2.conf ot httpd.conf |
| 17:20.39 | zedkatuf | (gemmark) |
| 17:20.47 | asg | owh: and if you edit /etc/init.d/fetchmail also? |
| 17:21.01 | BobbyGrace | how do I make a script file similar to a .bat file in win systems ? |
| 17:21.08 | owh | asg: Then when I next upgrade fetchmail, all hell will break loose :) |
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| 17:21.20 | geemark | zedkatuf: i'm not sure what I am looking for in /etc/hosts ? |
| 17:21.40 | asg | owh: okay, if you use -F to specify the config file for ssh, you can use ssh_config options to specify the location of known_hosts, etc. |
| 17:22.00 | Rubin | upgraded a box to sarge, and during dist-upgrade, postgresql setup asks for a password without a word as to who or what is asking for what. Anyone know whats this for? |
| 17:22.13 | owh | asg: Hmm, might have missed that in my man reading - /me smacks forehead. |
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| 17:22.19 | flowtron | BobbyGrace : type "#! /bin/sh" in the first line and make it executable. |
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| 17:22.34 | RichiH | Rubin: i would assume dbmaster passwd |
| 17:22.38 | RichiH | Rubin: not sure, though |
| 17:22.41 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: is there a newer version of debian i could try? like a blowupyourobox-testing version? |
| 17:22.50 | Rubin | i dont remember configuring a dmaster |
| 17:22.53 | Rubin | arg |
| 17:22.56 | zedkatuf | geemark: remove computer name from 127.0.0.1 & add separate line eg if ip addy is 192.168.0.1 &machinename is mybox then put entry in /etc/hosts as mybox 192.168.0.1 &make sure that there is no entry like 127.0.0.1 mybox localhost |
| 17:23.01 | flowtron | BobbyGrace : of course you can use a number of other languages (i.e. perl, python, ...) |
| 17:23.01 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: there should be daily etch isos available at www.debian.org |
| 17:23.12 | RichiH | Rubin: there will be some default username |
| 17:23.15 | zedkatuf | &then put FQDN in /etc/apach/httpd.conf |
| 17:23.35 | geemark | zedkatuf: thanks, i'll try that |
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| 17:24.02 | Rubin | RichiH: when i type something in, it says "psql: FATAL: PAM authentication failed for user "postgres"" |
| 17:24.05 | BobbyGrace | flowtron: I want the script to do normal shell commands. how do I make it executable ? |
| 17:24.10 | Rubin | but i do know the postgres users password |
| 17:24.34 | flowtron | BobbyGrace : try "chmod" ... something like chmod 750 /path/to/your/file should do the trick |
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| 17:25.32 | BobbyGrace | flowtron: like "chmod /home/myusername/script-example" ???? ( suppose the file is called script-example ) |
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| 17:26.17 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: think i should go with the netboot or the full iso? |
| 17:26.18 | flowtron | BobbyGrace - yes - but you'll need to tell it how to "change mode" ... 750 is rwxr-x--- |
| 17:26.21 | geemark | zedkatuf: it didn't work :( |
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| 17:28.49 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: netboot will be quicker (at least to test whether it finds your hardware) |
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| 17:29.15 | JerJer[mobile] | ok coo |
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| 17:29.32 | mark_ | anyone use rox-filer here? |
| 17:29.33 | zedkatuf | geemark: for FQDN: if you are behind a router with a dynamically assigned ip addy, make sure you get external ip addy bound to domainname using dyndns etc |
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| 17:31.16 | plb | hm I'm trying to find the libvisual package, googling tells its in fact called libvisual but I can't seem to find it? |
| 17:31.17 | pingouin | what is the *.pl sound file format ? good/evil ? |
| 17:31.41 | m2 | plb: http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 17:31.57 | m2 | pingouin: I guess it sounds like Perl. |
| 17:32.14 | flipmcf | geez. This is just odd. Lots of hits on google, but no solutions. "ipchains -A INPUT -s (your ip!) -j DROP" says "No target by that name" anyone seen that? 2.2.x kern before I get told to use iptables :) |
| 17:32.15 | pingouin | m2: ok, but..i read it ...with audacity ... |
| 17:32.24 | asg | plb: what is libvisual for? |
| 17:32.25 | pingouin | m2: :) |
| 17:32.28 | m2 | pingouin: file yourfile.pl |
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| 17:32.42 | plb | m2: that brings up nothing but I see debian lists with the mention of the package |
| 17:32.45 | plb | asg: amarok |
| 17:33.22 | MDM223 | anyone know where the option to disable diplaying the contents of windows in ROX is? |
| 17:33.29 | owh | asg: We have lift-off. Thank you. I'll document it, write a bug report/patch for the README.Debian. |
| 17:33.54 | asg | owh: :) |
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| 17:34.05 | m2 | plb: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libvisual&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
| 17:34.22 | nvz | BobbyGrace: what purpose are you seeking this? |
| 17:34.27 | nvz | grr |
| 17:34.28 | asg | plb: you might ask #debian-kde perhaps. If it's a C++ thing, libvdk-dev or libvdk2-dev might be what you are looking for |
| 17:34.32 | nvz | wtf did that come from |
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| 17:34.44 | nvz | plb: for what purpose are you seeking this? |
| 17:34.50 | asg | nvz: amarok |
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| 17:35.10 | piotr_ | somebody using sid? is it safe to upgrade today? |
| 17:35.10 | nvz | asg: the answer is more than one word |
| 17:35.22 | plb | m2: i don't want vlc =P |
| 17:35.37 | asg | piotr_: so far. check the bts for the upgraded packages to be sure or install apt-listbugs |
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| 17:35.50 | plb | asg: ok I'll check it otu |
| 17:35.51 | plb | out |
| 17:35.55 | schurro | hi folks |
| 17:36.06 | piotr_ | asg: I saw some mess recently with kdelibs |
| 17:36.06 | nvz | what he is trying to do with amarok is what I am wondering |
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| 17:36.16 | asg | piotr_: oh, #debian-kde will know about that |
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| 17:36.21 | schurro | id anyone install xorg yet in testing? |
| 17:36.22 | asg | nvz: compile it probably |
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| 17:36.43 | piotr_ | asg: thanks |
| 17:36.48 | asg | piotr_: you're welcome |
| 17:36.53 | nvz | asg: it already is in debian and supports visualization I dont know wtf libvisual is or what he's trying to do |
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| 17:37.38 | Rubin | How do i make "Device eth0 has left promiscuous mode" messages stop printing on the console? |
| 17:37.45 | asg | Rubin: /msg dpkg klogd |
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| 17:37.56 | Rubin | ty |
| 17:38.08 | nvz | Rubin: stop toggling promisc mode, or tell the person who 0wned you that you want to buy your pc back |
| 17:38.18 | asg | nvz: who knows |
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| 17:38.44 | schurro | where can i report a bug in the xorg pkg in testing? |
| 17:39.00 | asg | schurro: the bts though you might look for gravity in #debian-x first |
| 17:39.01 | nvz | asg: when people seem confused I don't bother helping until the confusion unravels to the source of the problem :P |
| 17:39.19 | nvz | the solution is often easier than expected |
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| 17:39.22 | m2 | schurro: BTS. |
| 17:39.22 | schurro | asg thanks i"ll try that. |
| 17:39.27 | m2 | schurro: reportbug. |
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| 17:39.41 | asg | nvz: apt-get install amarok (one solution) |
| 17:39.41 | Abe_Sapien | Hallo all! Just wondering- whats the status of HPPA K-Class (lumbering giant) servers on Debian? |
| 17:39.45 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know why I get the error "Cannot load subtitles: .../.../foo.sub? or how to fix it? or what the problem is? |
| 17:39.55 | TwistedEmotions | from gmplayer.. |
| 17:40.25 | Rubin | nvz: uh, its not owned. its doing its job, and toggling promisc mode is part of its job. |
| 17:41.03 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: the latest daily netinst doesn't even find my e1000 - i started a shell, modprobe e1000 and assigned all of the network info, yet it still won't continue - says it cannot find a suitable network module |
| 17:41.04 | ma3x | hey |
| 17:41.11 | ma3x | what kind of name is laurence, man woman? |
| 17:41.19 | asg | ma3x: man |
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| 17:41.24 | nav5 | with reference to a multiboot system: if I resize the windows partition, isnt' it possible that I could break windows, since some windows data might fall into the newly created parition? |
| 17:41.28 | ma3x | asg, in europe too? |
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| 17:41.42 | JerJer[mobile] | and there is no ping or anything else network related in this busybox config |
| 17:41.48 | __DL__ | ma3x: in france it can be a women |
| 17:41.50 | asg | ma3x: I don't see why not; women usually have lauren or laurent |
| 17:42.08 | nvz | Rubin: what kind of job requires such an action? usually you either are promisc or you are not.. I see no advantages to toggling it unless you are doing it manually to packet sniff. my one box has several interfaces in promisc, but thats because its a bridge and they are always in that mode |
| 17:42.10 | saloxin | JerJer[mobile]: i think you have wget - which can work as a test |
| 17:42.13 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: ping was removed from the sarge installer though 'nc' (netcat) is available. |
| 17:42.17 | bomb | nav5: ANY time you resize a partition with data on it, you risk losing data |
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| 17:42.51 | ma3x | __DL__, are you french? this person is french, so probably is woman |
| 17:42.58 | Rubin | nvz: it samples the network every 5 minutes for some bad traffic and notifies me. |
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| 17:43.11 | Rubin | nvz: i dont see why thats unusual or odd. |
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| 17:43.43 | nvz | Rubin: if I was going to monitor the network I would just leave it that way.. but I guess it works either way |
| 17:44.01 | Rubin | nvz: that depends on the perticulars of what your looking for :P |
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| 17:44.28 | Rubin | promisc mode is a big performance hit, so the less time in it the better |
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| 17:45.09 | nvz | I guess so. it all depends on how large net network attached to the interface is the way I see it |
| 17:45.17 | asg | Rubin: I'd honestly thing it was less of a hit since it doesn't have to spend any time deciding if packets are addressed to it or not. |
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| 17:45.41 | asg | s/thing/think/ |
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| 17:45.58 | Rubin | i dont know enough about the network stack to know |
| 17:46.03 | ma3x | asg, it's woman |
| 17:46.10 | nvz | my bridge has 3 interfaces in promisc, but only one device on each... |
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| 17:46.26 | piotr_ | can you downgrade from sid to sarge? |
| 17:46.46 | asg | piotr_: not easily. It may not even be possible now. |
| 17:46.50 | cheal | !tell piotr_ about downgrade |
| 17:47.01 | JerJer[mobile] | saloxin: i have wget but get error about not being able to resolve a hostname - perhaps since none of that is configured |
| 17:47.03 | Rubin | the script i run puts the interface into promisc mode and then sends a dhcp request.. if it gets an answer from a hwa besides my dhcp server, it emails me |
| 17:47.25 | Rubin | so it only needs to be active for 10 seconds as noone replies if noone is asking anyway |
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| 17:51.18 | marts | I'm in the process of upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6. I have the 2.6 kernel booting to the login but no X or wireless network. I am hoping to use my 2.4 for whatever network or X work I need till I get X working in 2.6 (getting nvidia drivers working) |
| 17:51.44 | marts | My question is can I install two differnet versions of the kernel headers or would they clash? |
| 17:51.45 | asg | marts: well, if you have mouse problems with X on 2.6, /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
| 17:51.46 | Latis | how come I cant login as root through ssh? (I know I have the right password) |
| 17:51.52 | Latis | any1 knows a howto for this? |
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| 17:51.59 | cheal | marts: you can |
| 17:52.01 | asg | Latis: look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 17:52.16 | asg | Latis: Root Logins are not allowed by default in > sarge iirc |
| 17:52.17 | marts | ok cheal I'll give it a go. |
| 17:52.19 | marts | ta |
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| 17:52.25 | cheal | np |
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| 17:53.44 | Latis | asg: what is "UseLogin" ? |
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| 17:54.11 | JerJer[mobile] | still no joy |
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| 17:54.17 | Latis | hmm, cant see anything to be a problem in my config |
| 17:54.18 | asg | Latis: decides if login(1) is used for interactive session. |
| 17:54.24 | flowtron | Latis : man sshd_config |
| 17:54.35 | sgeigerbot | nvz: are you gizmoing? |
| 17:54.38 | asg | Latis: actually, PermitRootLogin is yes in sarge and greater; I was wrong above |
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| 17:55.09 | Ryushin | Hello all. I'm trying to fix a hacked box. Everytime certain core commands are run, it results in a seg fault. Commands like ls, gzip, etc. I've tried coping coreutils files and the libc6 files from a good box to the bad box. But it still results in seg fault. Once I get this back online, and can compare the results of the AIDE check, and replace any bad packages. But I'm not there yet. Any ideas? |
| 17:55.31 | Latis | asg: yeh, it just dont seem to allow me to log in though :( |
| 17:55.40 | asg | Ryushin: get a busybox-static, put it on a floppy, and use it to probe things. |
| 17:55.42 | Latis | ok, now it did |
| 17:55.51 | Latis | just changed cleartext passwords |
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| 17:55.54 | Latis | to be accepted |
| 17:56.00 | m2 | Ryushin: you shut down the host, remove the hard drive, mount it on another PC, backup data, reinstall. |
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| 17:56.53 | estel | hi, is xcompmgr available with debian (testing)? |
| 17:57.02 | schurro | und tschuess :-) |
| 17:57.02 | Ryushin | I'm using the sysresccd which is very good. I'm into the box now. When I chroot to the broken box, it gives me the segfaults. I'm almost sure it's related to libc6, but not certain. |
| 17:57.04 | cheal | estel: no |
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| 17:57.18 | rosa | anybody here speak german too |
| 17:57.24 | Ryushin | Can the debian install disk, perform an "upgrade"? |
| 17:57.29 | cheal | !tell rosa about de |
| 17:57.31 | asg | Ryushin: use debsums to see what has been futzed with |
| 17:57.38 | rosa | http://rafb.net/paste/results/StRb0c96.txt |
| 17:57.42 | KernelPanique | rosa: warum? |
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| 17:57.52 | rosa | kann nicht qcad installieren |
| 17:57.56 | estel | cheal: is it possible to compile it myself? |
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| 17:58.00 | cheal | !de |
| 17:58.00 | dpkg | methinks de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 17:58.02 | Ryushin | debsums isn't installed. I can copy their via a flash drive. |
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| 17:58.17 | streuner | m2: isnt backup data not enough? |
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| 17:58.27 | Ryushin | Trying to run dpkg --instdir /mnt/hackeddrive -i *.deb does not work. |
| 17:58.32 | JerJer[mobile] | grrrr why does dell have to make it this damn difficult |
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| 17:59.11 | KernelPanique | rosa: das ist ein englisch helpchan |
| 17:59.38 | Lee__ | JerJer[mobile]: because it's a "budget" model. |
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| 17:59.44 | rosa | ich weiss meine muttersprache ist auch deutsch |
| 17:59.51 | Lee__ | which translates to "they don't care that much" |
| 18:00.00 | cheal | estel: probably |
| 18:00.01 | Lee__ | !de |
| 18:00.01 | dpkg | well, de is deutschsprachige hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - aber aufpassen, die sind manchmal ziemlich unfreundlich. german speaking users please go to #debian.de - but beware, they're pretty unfriendly sometimes... |
| 18:00.16 | owh | ROTFL |
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| 18:00.46 | rosa | thank you dpkg and KernelPanique |
| 18:00.59 | KernelPanique | np |
| 18:01.08 | gotcha | owh, ROTFL? |
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| 18:01.19 | JerJer[mobile] | Lee__: budget minded people shouldn't be punished like this |
| 18:01.21 | asg | gotcha: apt-get install bsdgames ; /usr/games/wtf is ROTFL |
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| 18:01.32 | owh | gotcha: Rolling On The Floor Laughing |
| 18:01.35 | BobbyGrace | how do I install a local.deb file ? have tried reading some HOWTO's. put the line "deb file:/path/to/deb/packages/" in sources.list ... apt-get tells me this is a malformed line |
| 18:01.48 | asg | BobbyGrace: dpkg -i <deb> |
| 18:01.51 | jtwronski | hehe, 'wtf' is a very useful command |
| 18:01.51 | flipmcf | ROTFLCOPTER |
| 18:02.05 | Lee__ | you telling me? No where did they mention that their definition of a "Linux compatible SATA RAID controller" was to use the md module. |
| 18:02.08 | asg | jtwronski: yes, bsdgames and cowsay are required packages |
| 18:02.11 | BobbyGrace | asg: like "dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb" ?????? |
| 18:02.11 | gotcha | owh, nice sitiation :) |
| 18:02.14 | asg | BobbyGrace: yes |
| 18:02.25 | BobbyGrace | ok thanks =) that sounded a lot easier |
| 18:02.28 | jtwronski | ooh, cowsay? i don't know that one |
| 18:02.29 | gotcha | owh, situation |
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| 18:02.34 | flipmcf | gotcha, for all these IRC acronyms and more, check out www.urbandictionary.com |
| 18:02.39 | asg | jtwronski: cowsay -f stimpy Nummies |
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| 18:03.25 | owh | asg: 2769k just to install wtf - all I can say is : wtf? |
| 18:03.29 | cello_rasp | hi! I want to be able to give a user account root permissions? is this possible and how could I do this? |
| 18:03.31 | paolob | Hi guys! After this night dist-upgrade (testing) I have a problem with xkb, and the keyboard doesn't work well. Where can I get information about resolvin the problem? thank you! |
| 18:03.39 | flipmcf | cello_rasp, man sudo |
| 18:03.39 | asg | owh: bsdgames includes a lot of other things besides wtf |
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| 18:03.50 | owh | asg: I'll say :) |
| 18:03.53 | gotcha | flipmcf, I had collected a lot 0f bookmarks... I need this... thanks |
| 18:03.59 | Lee__ | paolob: bugs.debian.org |
| 18:04.09 | flipmcf | gotcha, one of my favorite sites :) |
| 18:04.11 | asg | owh: asg@rob:~$ dpkg -L bsdgames | grep /usr/games | wc -l |
| 18:04.12 | asg | 44 |
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| 18:04.24 | cello_rasp | flipmcf: how about automatically, i can't use sudo for programming suites when i am in gnome |
| 18:04.26 | flipmcf | gotcha, be sure to check out my definitions I submitted :) "meat edit" and "adidas protocol" |
| 18:04.57 | flipmcf | cello_rasp, what are you trying to accomplish? some automated web program to give users root access? |
| 18:05.06 | cello_rasp | flipmcf: i should have said 'rights' rather than permission.. in other words an alternative root account |
| 18:05.10 | m2 | paolob: bugs.debian.org/src:xorg-x11 |
| 18:05.12 | amo-ej1 | is there somewhere an up to date vlc repository for debian ? |
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| 18:05.19 | jtwronski | asg: that cowsay rocks! i'll have to use it for a motd generator |
| 18:05.20 | flipmcf | cello_rasp, why wont sudo work? curious? |
| 18:05.42 | gotcha | flipmcf, post it on social-bookmarking :) |
| 18:05.42 | asg | jtwronski: I use it to taunt the stationary(tm) Outlook users at work ;) |
| 18:05.46 | flipmcf | cello_rasp, root rights should be taken seriously - but you know that. |
| 18:05.52 | jtwronski | hehe |
| 18:06.04 | cello_rasp | flipmcf: no, I am writing php modules and I cant use bluefish because i need root perms to do everything to the test web server :/ |
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| 18:06.26 | cheal | amo-ej1: ? any debian repository? |
| 18:06.54 | amo-ej1 | cheal, i meant on _with_ codecs |
| 18:06.55 | flipmcf | cello_rasp, well, I would consider creating a user, sticking that user in /etc/sudoers (iirc) and going from there. |
| 18:07.08 | flipmcf | cello_rasp, you can deny certain commands also through sudo |
| 18:07.10 | rabies | whats the ps flag to show the processes showing a tree view w/ parent processes? |
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| 18:07.34 | gotcha | flipmcf, adidas? shoes blend something? |
| 18:07.36 | m2 | rabies: forest |
| 18:07.36 | cello_rasp | flipmcf: thanks a lot |
| 18:07.39 | flipmcf | cello_rasp, it might still be your solution. |
| 18:07.39 | owh | flipmcf: You have too much time on your hands. I'd have stuck with sneakernet, rather than adidas. |
| 18:07.48 | asg | jtwronski: asg@rob:~$ echo 'filters(6) is also a required package' | chef |
| 18:07.48 | asg | feelters(6) is elsu a reqooeered peckege-a |
| 18:07.49 | flipmcf | owh :) lol |
| 18:08.03 | flipmcf | owh didn't know 'sneakernet' |
| 18:08.16 | owh | flipmcf: That's been around for some decades :) |
| 18:08.18 | asg | flipmcf: you must be a young'n then |
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| 18:08.26 | flipmcf | 29 - fairly young |
| 18:08.28 | rabies | m2: thanks |
| 18:08.29 | owh | asg: ROTFL |
| 18:08.49 | gotcha | flipmcf, the word #29? |
| 18:09.00 | Maneit | Hi. Is there a easy way to bind users to their $HOME? E.g so a user who ssh's can't go outside $HOME? |
| 18:09.03 | flipmcf | heard an elder (>50) speak of adidas protocol, so I figured it was worth a def. |
| 18:09.12 | rabies | m2: --forest is useful when using renice :) |
| 18:09.13 | asg | Maneit: pam_chroot |
| 18:09.19 | m2 | flipmcf: I'm pretty sure sneakernet was available when you were born |
| 18:09.31 | flipmcf | m2 I don't have the required modules. |
| 18:09.37 | nav5 | paritioning a HD for debian, HD is 14 GB. How much space should the swap partition have? |
| 18:09.46 | owh | asg: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=327250 |
| 18:09.51 | lakcaj | nav5, how much ram do you have? |
| 18:09.55 | jtwronski | asg hehe |
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| 18:10.08 | lakcaj | nav5, and the installer with chose a suitably sized partition anyway |
| 18:10.09 | gotcha | flipmcf, I like the google define,too. |
| 18:10.09 | jtwronski | so much for getting any work done today |
| 18:10.16 | m2 | nav5: how much ram do you have? |
| 18:10.16 | nav5 | lakcag - the partition i'm using for linux is 14 |
| 18:10.20 | nav5 | ram 128 |
| 18:10.22 | lakcaj | nav5, ram |
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| 18:10.43 | lakcaj | nav5, I wouldn't go much larger than 256 |
| 18:10.52 | asg | owh: probably should have been given wishlist priority (they maintainer will likely do that for you though) |
| 18:10.54 | nav5 | okay |
| 18:11.16 | gotcha | flipmcf, such as 'google define lamer' hehe |
| 18:11.24 | lakcaj | double the ram is a rough rule of thumb, but one you get into 512 megs or ram and above, it stops making sense to make the swap twice as large as the ram. |
| 18:11.30 | owh | asg: I thought about it, but wasn't sure, figured the same :) |
| 18:11.31 | asg | owh: oh, disregard that, you patched existing docs. |
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| 18:13.24 | owh | lakcaj: I was going to say that also, but then I realised that it also depends on what the machine is doing, so I abstained :) |
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| 18:14.00 | lakcaj | I also found this factoid :) |
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| 18:14.04 | lakcaj | !swap 2x ram |
| 18:14.04 | dpkg | it has been said that swap 2x ram is a stupid rule made by stupid people, for stupid people. ...but see: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 18:14.09 | lakcaj | :) |
| 18:14.26 | m2 | owh: if you need a large swap area if you have more than 512 MB of RAM you *need* more RAM. |
| 18:14.29 | goccia | hahaha great |
| 18:15.05 | owh | m2: Only if your need for swap is permanent and not incidental. |
| 18:15.37 | thingfish | I have an online acquaintance who evidently got banned in here. Is it possible to see why he got banned, and for how long? |
| 18:15.50 | owh | m2: I have 1.5Gb of RAM and 1.6Gb of swap. |
| 18:16.09 | owh | m2: Hint: I'm using a laptop :) |
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| 18:16.44 | asg | thingfish: you could consult #freenode. If it was recently, what nick was used? |
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| 18:16.48 | goccia | anyway i think firefox do swap as a pig , sometimes :) |
| 18:16.48 | m2 | owh: that's cheating :-) |
| 18:17.15 | thingfish | asg: tech9iner was the nick, I believe. Thanks. |
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| 18:17.56 | js_ | does debian autodetect hyperthreading cpus and install an smp kernel if so? i think ubuntu does, and iirc ubuntus installer is based on debians? |
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| 18:18.15 | asg | thingfish: hmmm, that was 11 days ago. My log doesn't go back that far. #freenode is your option or wait till an op shows up here and ask again. |
| 18:18.35 | thingfish | js_: no it does not, but smp kernels are readily available in Debian. |
| 18:18.38 | asg | js_: no, but all you have to do is install a -SMP kernel and it should work |
| 18:18.50 | thingfish | asg: ok, thanks a bunch, will do. |
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| 18:19.06 | dondelelcaro | yeah, #freenode doesn't really have anything to do with it, you need to ask a chanop |
| 18:19.28 | asg | dondelelcaro: ah okay, I didn't know if #freenode had some oversight or not these days. |
| 18:19.35 | thingfish | thank you, dondelelcaro. |
| 18:19.39 | js_ | asg & thingfish: yeah, but im trying to find out if a cpu supports hyperthreading or not |
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| 18:19.49 | asg | js_: oh, cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:19.56 | Seb | i'm using cups to setup my printers, but somehow lpr doens't use both sides of the pages when printing, how can I fix that ? |
| 18:19.58 | asg | js_: look for 'ht' in the flags line |
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| 18:20.45 | asg | Seb: the application responsible should be configured to use Duplex printing (i.e. gpdf vs. xpdf) |
| 18:20.46 | js_ | asg: that flag has been there on every pentium 4 ive checked, even if they dont have ht support |
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| 18:20.55 | asg | js_: really, hmmm. |
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| 18:21.03 | Seb | asg: so lpr cannot do that ? |
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| 18:21.09 | nav5 | guys I'm new to linux. I let the installer automatically parition free space on my hd. It set / to 4.1 GB and /home to 10.2. When I install software, does it install in /home or / ? |
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| 18:21.19 | js_ | asg: i think its more of a capability flag rather than a functionality flag |
| 18:21.26 | m2 | nav5: / |
| 18:21.31 | Seb | asg: for instance acroread only offers me to enter an lpr command-line to setup the way I print |
| 18:21.34 | asg | Seb: it's just a print spooler client, you need a filter to generate the correct ps iirc |
| 18:21.39 | nav5 | m2: so shouldn't / have more space than /home? |
| 18:21.40 | Seb | asg: hmmmm |
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| 18:21.46 | asg | js_: ah, okay. I was misinformed. |
| 18:22.04 | m2 | nav5: 4 GB is plenty of space for programs |
| 18:22.11 | Gathond | Seb: if cups's lpr command behaves like the real BSD one lpr -Zduplex might work |
| 18:22.25 | Gathond | provided the whole printer system knows about it and respects it |
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| 18:22.51 | m2 | nav5: but if you have doubts, you can always tell the installer to use the 14 GB as one partition. |
| 18:23.04 | Seb | Gathond: man lpr doesn't mention a -z/-Z :\ |
| 18:23.11 | nav5 | m2: are their certain benefits of having separate / and /home paritions? |
| 18:23.29 | goccia | yes |
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| 18:24.06 | Gathond | Seb: what does it mention as a method to send commands to the printer spooler then? |
| 18:24.10 | dondelelcaro | thingfish: that user doesn't appear to be banned currently... |
| 18:24.21 | Seb | Gathond: something like -o ... I think |
| 18:24.25 | Gathond | Seb: lp (the cups native one) used -o list,of,options |
| 18:24.28 | goccia | nav5: replacing the system for example : you don't touch home |
| 18:24.37 | Gathond | Seb: also the lpr one? then try lpr -o duplex |
| 18:24.49 | nav5 | ok, thanks |
| 18:24.57 | thingfish | dondelelcaro: hmm, maybe it was under another nick, but thanks for checking into it. |
| 18:25.06 | ke6isf | If I do '^foo^bar', I will replace the first occurance of foo with bar on the previous line typed in bash. How do I replace *all* occurances of foo with bar on the previous line? |
| 18:25.07 | Gathond | Seb: or perhaps check the cups user guide, its on their webpage and includes some examples of the most common commands |
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| 18:25.47 | JerJer[mobile] | looks like i'm gonna go buy a SATA drive :( |
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| 18:28.23 | newbie_ | hi all. following this howto: http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/apache_modssl_php/index.php and getting an error that apache_1.3.33 won't work. I think i need to use 1.3.29... anybody know what I can do? |
| 18:28.48 | asg | newbie_: what version of debian are you using? |
| 18:29.02 | Ryushin | Is there anyway to perform a upgrade of debian via cd? |
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| 18:29.08 | Bac9 | newbie_: modssl_php? what's that for? |
| 18:29.25 | asg | Bac9: just the name of the howto |
| 18:29.33 | Bac9 | Ryushin: yes, but why if the net has newer versions most likely |
| 18:29.52 | Bac9 | asg: oh, thought it was ssl+php |
| 18:29.59 | asg | newbie_: apt-get install apache ; apt-get install libapache-mod-ssl ; apt-get install php4 libapache-mod-php4 |
| 18:30.02 | gotcha | well,who knows the gprs? |
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| 18:30.15 | Ryushin | I don't mind doing it over the net either. Just I would like to perform and upgrade using the install cd/floppy/whatever. |
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| 18:30.43 | Bac9 | asg: I believe php4 depends on mod-php4 so it should bring it in |
| 18:30.46 | Ryushin | I essentially want to replace the bootstrap part of the system because it was hacked. |
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| 18:30.58 | PhUrl | hi all, I am having problems with my mouse. |
| 18:31.12 | Ryushin | PhUrl: Get a cat. :) |
| 18:31.16 | PhUrl | hehe |
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| 18:31.32 | Bac9 | Ryushin: just like any upgrade, point apt to the repository (cd, net, whatever), apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:31.33 | asg | Bac9: can't hurt but, at least in sid, it doesn't appear to, only php4-common |
| 18:31.49 | gotcha | Ryushin, hacked? |
| 18:31.58 | gotcha | Ryushin, how to say? |
| 18:32.04 | Ryushin | Yea. :( |
| 18:32.06 | Bac9 | Ryushin: if you were hacked better reinstall froms cratch just in case |
| 18:32.27 | gotcha | Ryushin, interesting |
| 18:32.28 | Ryushin | If I can get the system up, and can compare my AIDE against it and fix it. |
| 18:32.41 | Ryushin | I just have to get it back to a usable state. |
| 18:32.47 | cheal | amo-ej1: doesn't Debian's vlc already come with codecs? |
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| 18:33.09 | amo-ej1 | cheal, not with mp3/mp4 codecs |
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| 18:33.54 | gotcha | Ryushin, you may do a event-recover procedure |
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| 18:34.12 | Ryushin | gotcha: Really, what is that? |
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| 18:34.35 | newbie_ | asg: I'm using woody. |
| 18:34.46 | gotcha | Ryushin, hehe to buy a book ~_~ |
| 18:34.54 | asg | newbie_: should still work just fine |
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| 18:35.15 | newbie_ | asg: is this a better howto than the one I've been following? apt-get install apache ; apt-get install libapache-mod-ssl ; apt-get install php4 libapache-mod-php4 |
| 18:35.23 | Ryushin | So, how to I use the install cd/floppy, to perform an inplace upgrade of my current system? |
| 18:35.40 | dondelelcaro | newbie_: well, you could just stick them all on one line... but that's basically it |
| 18:35.57 | newbie_ | cripes.. |
| 18:35.59 | asg | newbie_: yeah, just remove libapache-mod-php4 (not in woody) |
| 18:36.03 | newbie_ | i'll scrap these files and try again. |
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| 18:36.06 | djp | just wanted to check if any one here remembers... yesterday i asked for a recommendation with regards an irc client to install under debian 3.1. i beleive the main shout was for irssi. does that sound like the correct client? |
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| 18:36.31 | asg | djp: yes |
| 18:36.32 | bomb | djp: the debian package is called irssi-text |
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| 18:37.01 | gotcha | Ryushin, It's not secure against haching |
| 18:37.11 | cheal | amo-ej1: according to the package's description, vlc can read MP3 and MPEG4 ("It plays MPEG, MPEG2, MPEG4," [...]) |
| 18:37.13 | bomb | strange how xorg doesn't autodetect my lcd and sync rates, but xfree86 does |
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| 18:37.31 | djp | asg, thanks |
| 18:37.31 | amo-ej1 | cheal, i agree on read, but i need to encode it |
| 18:37.45 | djp | bomb, yes that is what i have installed and am using now ;) |
| 18:37.49 | paolob | Hi guys! anyone got a xkb error with this night testing dist-upgrade? |
| 18:38.04 | sbk | Out of curiosity -- why does the badblocks read-only test potentially crash/damage a filesystem? (morover, even if it is mounted read-only?) |
| 18:38.28 | JohnnyST | Hi dose someone know if there is some fonts needed for flashplugin-nonfree? |
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| 18:38.38 | gotcha | bomb, you can do a quick hacking... |
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| 18:38.53 | bomb | oh? |
| 18:39.00 | cheal | JohnnyST: the package dependencies, most likely |
| 18:39.03 | bomb | it's no big deal, i know my lcd specs |
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| 18:39.04 | JohnnyST | I have some places where the txt is not shown on a webpage it works fine on fedora but not on debian same flash version.. |
| 18:39.05 | bomb | i was just curious why |
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| 18:39.11 | ma3x | can i get 1 gig ftp for free? |
| 18:39.17 | ma3x | i mean is that possible |
| 18:39.20 | gotcha | bomb, (with a hammer :)) |
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| 18:39.22 | caphuso | ma3x: apt-get install vsftpd |
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| 18:39.29 | bomb | sweet |
| 18:39.31 | Ryushin | The problem is, that the client, the noob, changed the root password to password. And it got hacked within a few hours after that. Since I run AIDE on it, I can get it back to it's perfect self once I get it bootstrapped and able to boot. |
| 18:39.34 | Ryushin | So that's my problem. |
| 18:40.03 | rabies | ma3x: only if you're the one hosting |
| 18:40.06 | ma3x | caphuso, I mean is there some space hosting company offering it? |
| 18:40.14 | ma3x | rabies, that's not my case. |
| 18:40.18 | Coweater | ma3x: set up a gmail drive |
| 18:40.20 | rabies | ma3x: odds are low then |
| 18:40.28 | rabies | ma3x: a gig is a good amount of space for a ftp host |
| 18:40.33 | Coweater | probably the closest you'll get for free |
| 18:40.42 | ma3x | Coweater, what's the web address? |
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| 18:41.01 | Coweater | google a bit you'll find some stuff |
| 18:41.07 | ma3x | ok |
| 18:41.08 | ma3x | thanks |
| 18:41.23 | Latis | what is a gmail drive? |
| 18:41.24 | rabies | ma3x: probably your best shot is finding a 1 gig free webhosting. usually ftp is bundled in with that |
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| 18:41.35 | Latis | I have gmail, but can you use that for other than mail? |
| 18:41.35 | rabies | Latis: its an illegal usage of the gmail storage |
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| 18:41.41 | JohnnyST | cheal: The thing is it works fine on all other dists but not on debian so I tried to uppgrade to xorg but it was not that.. |
| 18:41.45 | asg | Latis: gmailfs |
| 18:41.48 | manuelmagic | 'sera |
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| 18:41.53 | Latis | asg: ahh, ok |
| 18:41.56 | ma3x | rabies, you know any? |
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| 18:42.03 | djp | ok, one other piece of software that does not appear to be installed by default with the desktop install of debian 3.1 is a bittorrent client. would the standard bittorrent-gui be the way to go, as used by ubuntu hoary by default? |
| 18:42.06 | rabies | ma3x: not off the top of my head, sorry |
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| 18:42.11 | ma3x | ok |
| 18:42.18 | rabies | djp: bittorado isnt bad |
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| 18:42.29 | newbie_ | asg: I just ran that apt-get, and tried an "apachectl restart" and am getting an error: Syntax error on line 328 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf..... |
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| 18:42.48 | djp | rabies, is that bittornado? |
| 18:42.48 | asg | newbie_: then find out what, on line 328, is causing the issue |
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| 18:42.54 | ma3x | I'd take Coweater's advice Ever since Google started to offer users a Gmail e-mail account, which includes storage space of 2000 megabytes, |
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| 18:43.00 | rabies | djp: bittornado is bittornado, nothing else |
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| 18:43.06 | newbie_ | Says "Order allow, deny" |
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| 18:43.15 | rabies | djp: bittorent-gui is something else... |
| 18:43.19 | ma3x | heh Installation Requirements Internet Explorer 5 or better |
| 18:43.19 | Coweater | actually i didn't know it was illegal, may not be such a good idea |
| 18:43.24 | djp | rabies, thanks i will check it out |
| 18:43.25 | asg | newbie_: then something earlier has cascaded down. What did you modify in the file? |
| 18:43.35 | rabies | djp: bittorado-gui might be in debian |
| 18:43.45 | newbie_ | I didn't mod that file.. it was the maintainer's file. |
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| 18:43.51 | ma3x | Coweater, probably this is the package for it - gmailfs? |
| 18:44.00 | rabies | djp: and it is |
| 18:44.02 | Coweater | yes |
| 18:44.05 | newbie_ | asg: is there a way to remove the file and re-get it? |
| 18:44.10 | ma3x | Coweater, thank you! |
| 18:44.10 | djp | rabies, i will check in synaptic... |
| 18:44.11 | rabies | newbie_: apt-get --reinstall |
| 18:44.18 | rabies | djp: k |
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| 18:44.47 | ma3x | hm, #325993 - fuse-utils: Removing fuse-utils causes dpkg to break |
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| 18:44.51 | ma3x | so I should never remove it? |
| 18:44.55 | ma3x | or never install it |
| 18:45.20 | rabies | ma3x: dont upgrade to it... |
| 18:45.25 | rabies | ma3x: make sure that bug applies to you |
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| 18:45.27 | djp | rabies, yes it's there... right next to bittorrent! ;) |
| 18:45.35 | rabies | djp: aye... |
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| 18:45.47 | djp | cheers rabies |
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| 18:46.03 | rabies | lates |
| 18:46.09 | newbie_ | asg: APT-GET --REINSTALL just shows helptext |
| 18:46.10 | ma3x | rabies, critical bugs of fuse-utils (-> 2.3.0-4) <open> |
| 18:46.18 | asg | newbie_: apt-get install --reinstall |
| 18:46.18 | ma3x | rabies, probably it does apply to me |
| 18:46.19 | rabies | newbie_: apt-get --reinstall (all lowercase) packagename |
| 18:46.30 | rabies | ma3x: then dont upgrade to that version |
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| 18:46.37 | rabies | ma3x: read the bug text |
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| 18:47.05 | newbie_ | asg: just did that and am getting the same error on apachectl restart |
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| 18:47.25 | asg | newbie_: /msg dpkg confmiss (try the last bit in that factoid) |
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| 18:47.42 | asg | newbie_: before you do, does /etc/init.d/apache restart also fail in the same way? |
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| 18:48.39 | rabies | oh right, forgot the install part |
| 18:48.48 | rabies | ma3x: use synaptic, its easier |
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| 18:48.54 | rabies | ma3x: has a reinstall option |
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| 18:49.01 | ma3x | rabies, apt-get rules |
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| 18:49.10 | rabies | ma3x: synaptic is a frontend GUI to apt-get |
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| 18:49.21 | ma3x | rabies, I am on google mail's page, but I don't see a signup option |
| 18:49.24 | asg | rabies: does it auto-pull recommends? |
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| 18:49.29 | ma3x | rabies, im aware of that :) |
| 18:50.10 | rabies | asg: it recomends them |
| 18:50.15 | ma3x | We're currently only offering Gmail as part of a preview release and limited test. We don't have details on when Gmail will be made more widely available, as that depends in part on the results of the test. |
| 18:50.17 | ma3x | so how do you sign up? |
| 18:50.18 | thingfish | you can set it to treat recommends as depends. |
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| 18:50.49 | Latis | asg: if I use this gmailfs, can I download the stuff through http from it then? |
| 18:50.55 | Latis | with wget |
| 18:50.56 | Anthro | ma3x: https://www.google.com/accounts/SmsMailSignup1 |
| 18:51.01 | rabies | ma3x: you have to be invited |
| 18:51.13 | Anthro | rabies: No, you don't. Not anymore. |
| 18:51.19 | bomb | gmail is open to the public |
| 18:51.22 | rabies | Anthro: that works too |
| 18:51.42 | rabies | Latis: dude, it violates your TOS |
| 18:51.54 | Latis | rabies: yes |
| 18:51.55 | Latis | I know |
| 18:51.58 | rabies | ... |
| 18:52.19 | saloxin | is there any free monitoring programs for 3ware raid controllers? |
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| 18:52.32 | rabies | saloxin: smartmontools can monitor the health of it |
| 18:52.44 | saloxin | rabies: ah cool - i'll check it out |
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| 18:52.50 | rabies | saloxin: np |
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| 18:53.57 | newbie_ | asg: brilliant.. that worked like a charm. |
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| 18:54.03 | jtwronski | i got gmaill invites if anybody wants one |
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| 18:54.11 | asg | newbie_: excellent |
| 18:54.20 | newbie_ | asg: can you assist with install/config mysql too, please? which packages should I apt-get? |
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| 18:54.34 | asg | newbie_: install mysql-server and php4-mysql |
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| 18:54.48 | newbie_ | asg: (i've done this once before, and it told me that the .sock file could not be found !!) |
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| 18:55.11 | asg | newbie_: well worry about that if it happens. It shouldn't though. |
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| 18:55.22 | asg | s/well/we'll/ |
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| 18:55.43 | newbie_ | asg: it's grabbing exim (what is that?) |
| 18:55.58 | asg | hmmm, me should really remove some firefox tabs; my BASE monitoring page shows the title as Basic Anal. :/ |
| 18:56.09 | asg | newbie_: a mail transport agent (like sendmail but more friendly) |
| 18:56.19 | bjunix | hi . i try to administrate a dedicated server. now my problem is that i have limited traffic. How do i set limitations to prevent the server to exceed this limit. I thought something like quota. |
| 18:56.39 | bjunix | i just need a little hint |
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| 18:56.48 | asg | bjunix: lartc.org is a good start |
| 18:57.19 | bjunix | ok . thx . i ll check it out |
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| 18:57.32 | asg | Latis: well, once mounted, you could then instruct apache to provide a mapping to the mounted gmailfs space. |
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| 18:57.41 | ma3x | when i want to tar.gz a file, i do tar -cfz. And how do I put password to the .tar.gz ? |
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| 18:58.21 | PhUrl | yo, how can I debug/detect if the usb and ps/2 connections are working? |
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| 18:58.42 | streuner | PhUrl: in your logs? |
| 18:58.49 | newbie_ | asg: okay.. thanks. |
| 18:59.01 | cheal | PhUrl: perhaps lsusb for USB, depending on what you mean by working |
| 18:59.24 | asg | newbie_: mysql sends alerts and info via email so it requires a local mta. Exim is the default unless you have something else (postfix, qmail, sendmail, etc.) installed instead. |
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| 19:00.24 | newbie_ | asg: I am getting that same error: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! |
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| 19:00.50 | asg | newbie_: okay what errors exist in /var/log/syslog? |
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| 19:03.22 | lewis | anyone here good with VPNs? |
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| 19:03.22 | m4csim | hi, kernel-source-2.6.8 doesn't support Winbond W89c840 PCI Ethernet ? |
| 19:03.25 | newbie_ | asg: it's kinda long.. I'll paste in the last bit, okay? |
| 19:03.26 | Py | hello! |
| 19:03.37 | PhUrl | lsusb does not show a hubs bus 002 and 001 with the same device 001, a Sis usb 1 controller. logs show usbfs and hub |
| 19:03.39 | asg | newbie_: or use a paster bot (/msg dpkg paster) |
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| 19:03.49 | PhUrl | let me check a device i know works |
| 19:04.23 | Py | I'm looking for a stable way to get a specific script located on an usb memory stick ran each time the given stick is inserted. Is something like this available somehow/where? |
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| 19:05.00 | newbie_ | asg: http://channels.debian.net/paste/663. |
| 19:05.15 | Anthro | Py: You want autorun? That's... icky. |
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| 19:05.36 | cheal | m4csim: if upstream's 2.6.8.1 doesn't, you can safely guess it won't |
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| 19:05.51 | Py | Anthro, what does icky mean? |
| 19:05.56 | Anthro | Py: You can probably manage it for one particular box, but you aren't going to be able to make it happen for any machine you plug it into. |
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| 19:06.03 | newbie_ | asg: did I do that right? |
| 19:06.09 | asg | newbie_: yes |
| 19:06.12 | PhUrl | automounting of the usb memory stick works |
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| 19:06.15 | Om | Is there any command I can issue to temporarily enable/disable the mouse? :) |
| 19:06.16 | Anthro | Py: In this context, icky means ill-advised. |
| 19:06.21 | asg | newbie_: erm, was there still some old /etc/mysql stuff from your previous attempt? |
| 19:06.25 | PhUrl | so how can i debug my ps/2 on debian |
| 19:06.40 | asg | Om: why would you want to do that? |
| 19:06.48 | newbie_ | asg: probably. do you know how I can do a clean install? |
| 19:06.56 | m4csim | cheal: I found in google this url http://kernel.xc.net/html/linux-2.6.8/i386/ where the driver seem's to be, but I can't find it in the debian kernel-source |
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| 19:07.08 | cahoot | newbie_: coment out the 'old_passwords' line in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
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| 19:07.18 | WiFiTux | how can I jump in into a tty where I was looged in into before? |
| 19:07.22 | Py | Anthro: for sure I just want to get it to work on a particular box. The goal being to easily get logs saved of a non-networked headless (semi-embeeded physically) box, by someone which can hardly figure out that 2+2=4. See what I mean? |
| 19:07.39 | asg | newbie_: well, purge what 'apt-get install mysql-server' installed, make sure /etc/mysql doesn't exist and apt-get install mysql-server again |
| 19:07.44 | deadcat | WiFiTux: screen -x ? |
| 19:07.53 | WiFiTux | deadcat: I'm not using screen |
| 19:07.57 | deadcat | WiFiTux: cant |
| 19:08.03 | Anthro | Py: Would it be just as reasonable to have the script on the machine rather than on the USB stick? |
| 19:08.14 | Om | asg, in a script which acpid runs when my laptop lid closes, I already have it turning the screen off but I want it to disable the mouse so knocking the mouse doesn't put the screen back on :) |
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| 19:08.26 | WiFiTux | I now ssh'd in and well, I can see root tty1, root tty2... |
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| 19:08.34 | Om | And I'd reenable it when the laptop lid is reopened :) |
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| 19:09.17 | asg | Om: oh, that's a tough one |
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| 19:09.37 | Om | No easy way then? :( |
| 19:09.46 | Py | Anthro: well, if the script has to evolve, its easy to have it on the stick. But indeed it a false problem, cause if I can get a script located on the box started, I could get this script to invoke something on the stick. ODoesn't it make sense? |
| 19:10.07 | lakcaj | I can't believe GOOG is trading at $296. |
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| 19:10.26 | asg | Om: the 'unclutter' package might have an option to only re-enable on mouse clicks. I'm not sure though. |
| 19:10.37 | cheal | m4csim: I don't have a 2.6.8 source, but I'm pretty sure it should be there |
| 19:10.40 | tonsofpcs | lakcaj - even after the SPAM that MS vowed to kill them? |
| 19:10.43 | Om | Okay, I'll take a look :) |
| 19:10.44 | WiFiTux | lakcaj: really? I should had bought some stocks |
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| 19:10.59 | floyd_n_milan | what exactly is the difference between debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso and sarge-i386-netinst.iso? |
| 19:11.10 | deadcat | google is worst than MS |
| 19:11.16 | lakcaj | It opened at about $80/share... and I was going to buy, but everyone I talked to said not to. |
| 19:11.21 | X-horizon | good evenin everyone |
| 19:11.23 | Anthro | Py: Yeah, I suppose so. I'm mostly concerned about security, but it sounds like you don't consider it an issue. |
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| 19:11.49 | WiFiTux | deadcat: at least google is open source, free and has good stuff. Yes, google is already starting to become too "popular" |
| 19:11.50 | asg | Om: also, if you are using a 2.6 kernel, you might be able to use 'rmmod psmouse' and 'modprobe psmouse' |
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| 19:12.01 | asg | Om: that works here |
| 19:12.07 | newbie_ | asg: commented out, same errors |
| 19:12.15 | deadcat | WiFiTux: ya.. thats exactly what they want... once everyone is hook.. BAM! |
| 19:12.24 | Om | Removing the kernel module seems a bit extreme.. But I do have a 2.6 kernel, and if it works... |
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| 19:12.53 | WiFiTux | deadcat: I read google wants to make a backbone and give internet to everyone. Some wireless, for FREE! |
| 19:13.00 | Anthro | Py: You need to look into hotplug. Check the man page. |
| 19:13.00 | WiFiTux | all over US. |
| 19:13.01 | newbie_ | asg: could you show me how to purge what apt-get install mysql-server installed? |
| 19:13.04 | floyd_n_milan | what exactly is the difference between debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso and sarge-i386-netinst.iso? |
| 19:13.06 | Py | Anthro: You're right I'm not really concerned about it. Anyway I can easily sign whatever I put on the stick with gnuPG and get it checked before getting it ran or whatever. I think it could be quite secure. |
| 19:13.18 | asg | newbie_: well, apt-get remove --purge mysql-server mysql-common (try that first) |
| 19:13.24 | Anthro | Py: That's a good idea. |
| 19:13.26 | deadcat | WiFiTux: just part of their plan... ms might control most computers. but google is gonna control the internet.. |
| 19:13.45 | X-horizon | a quick question; need to update jdk since the course we're having requires certain java 5 properties.. checked the website, and downloaded the new version. But the installation instructions dont mention anything about updating from an old version, what am i supposed to do? install it again on the same directory? |
| 19:13.50 | Anthro | WiFiTux: Unconfirmed rumor. |
| 19:14.01 | asg | X-horizon: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 19:14.02 | deadcat | WiFiTux: its gonna be either the google way. or the pre-internet way |
| 19:14.02 | WiFiTux | Anthro: the one for the backbone? |
| 19:14.07 | Anthro | WiFiTux: Yes. |
| 19:14.21 | Om | Though it doesn't look like I compiled psmouse as a module, so that kinda screws that idea... |
| 19:14.25 | newbie_ | asg: purged.. should I re-install? |
| 19:14.28 | PhUrl | ballmer was quoted wanting to "kill" the management at google for sniping the best people http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/03/0515250&tid=109&tid=217&tid=133&tid=123 |
| 19:14.30 | WiFiTux | Anthro: True, but they are buying as many fiber lines as posible. |
| 19:14.37 | Py | Anthro: I've heard (just heard, not more) about IVman (which doesn't seem to be in sarge anyway). DO you think I should prefer hotplug? |
| 19:14.40 | asg | newbie_: yes, try reinstalling (verify /etc/mysql doesn't exist) |
| 19:14.40 | Anthro | WiFiTux: Saner minds are claiming that Google wants a backbone not to provide free internet access, but to reduce their bandwidth costs. |
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| 19:14.59 | Anthro | Py: I know nothing about IVman. I know that hotplug is capable of doing what you want. |
| 19:15.05 | WiFiTux | Anthro: true, I have seen that too. |
| 19:15.12 | lakcaj | Anyone that owns MS stock should be concerned that their upper management are borderline psychotic |
| 19:15.23 | Py | Anthro: ok, wonderful. Thanks a lot for the chat about it! |
| 19:15.31 | Anthro | Py: Good luck! |
| 19:15.35 | newbie_ | asg: it doesn't exist.. install mysql-server and php4-mysql, right? |
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| 19:15.43 | asg | newbie_: yes |
| 19:16.12 | ma3x | how can i put password when making .tar.gz file? |
| 19:16.25 | ma3x | i dont see a password switch in the man page of tar |
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| 19:16.36 | ma3x | maybe i should look in the zip man? |
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| 19:16.40 | lewis | anyone here good at IPsec VPNs? |
| 19:16.42 | streuner | ma3x: man gzip? |
| 19:16.45 | WiFiTux | juramito: hagarrame el chilindrito |
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| 19:16.58 | ma3x | streuner, and then when i create the archive with tar, can i specify that switch from gzip? |
| 19:17.02 | asg | ma3x: or use gpg to do symmetric encryption |
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| 19:17.40 | ma3x | asg how can that later be decrypted? |
| 19:17.40 | streuner | ma3x: i hardly heard of someone who ever used a .gz file with passwort |
| 19:17.58 | rambler | I have an audio cd, and I have xmms...how can I play the audio cd...It's in the cdrom..but I'm not sure what to do. |
| 19:17.59 | Gathond | ma3x: using ... surprise .. gpg |
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| 19:18.17 | ma3x | streuner, I want to create an archive and send it to my brother. He's using windows, so I want to be compatible for him. |
| 19:18.29 | streuner | ma3x: man zip |
| 19:18.42 | ma3x | streuner, thanks |
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| 19:18.53 | asg | ma3x: gpg --decrypt (provided --symmetric was used to encrypt) |
| 19:19.03 | john | Not that this is "rea" relevant, but isn't *.tar supported by winrar? |
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| 19:19.10 | djp | ok, just want a quick straw poll... rabies recommended bittornado to me. do others here agree that bittornado will see me right, more than bittorrent? |
| 19:19.45 | ma3x | asg, can that later be decrypted on win os? |
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| 19:19.55 | blastM | hey ppl |
| 19:19.56 | ma3x | i dont think windows can decrypt that |
| 19:19.58 | blastM | i need help |
| 19:20.02 | asg | ma3x: if gnupg works on Windows, yes |
| 19:20.03 | ma3x | unless you have some tools |
| 19:20.14 | blastM | so, i need help about apm |
| 19:20.14 | ma3x | asg, you know it works on windows? |
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| 19:20.28 | asg | ma3x: otherwise, you should probably use zip/unzip. |
| 19:20.28 | newbie_ | asg: on install, it says Mysql will only install if you have a non-numeric hostname that is resolvable via the /etc/hosts file. E.g. if the "hostname" command returns myhostname then there must be a line like "10.0.1 my hostname" ... I have apache setup to use the servername "linux" so I don't have to type the ip in my browser .. is this something I should consider? |
| 19:20.36 | ma3x | asg, I agree, thank you! |
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| 19:21.12 | asg | newbie_: well, if 'hostname' and 'hostname --fqdn' return values that are consistent, you should be fine. |
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| 19:21.27 | newbie_ | asg: it aslo says Please remember to set a PASSWORD for the MySQL root user! If you use a /root/.my.cnf, always write the "user and the password" lines in there, never only the password! .. |
| 19:22.12 | asg | newbie_: yes, /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README* indicates how to do that. Also, /var/log/syslog might also indicate the relevant things to type. |
| 19:22.18 | djp | bittorrent vs bittornado? 0-1 then? |
| 19:22.26 | deadcat | ya |
| 19:22.37 | asg | newbie_: the /root/.my.cnf file make things easier (and the README shows you how to create one if you want to) |
| 19:22.51 | hcy | hi, it's me again |
| 19:22.53 | PhUrl | i have a problem with kernel |
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| 19:23.30 | PhUrl | hey djp ! |
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| 19:23.44 | newbie_ | asg: rats! even after all that, I'm still getting the .sock error! :( |
| 19:23.55 | asg | newbie_: same errors in /var/log/syslog? |
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| 19:24.26 | newbie_ | asg: now my syslog is BLANK.. (scratching head) |
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| 19:24.51 | nvz | newbie_: maybe it was rotated |
| 19:24.52 | newbie_ | asg: did I clear it somehow with my reader? |
| 19:25.01 | asg | newbie_: well first, check that /var/run/mysql exists and is owned by mysql. Also, if the mysql.sock file exists and try starting mysql again. |
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| 19:25.42 | tonsofpcs | who wants to tell me why MILO won't work on my eb164? |
| 19:25.57 | asg | newbie_: rather delete the sock file if it exists and then start mysql again |
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| 19:26.24 | asg | tonsofpcs: vorlon is probably the person to talk to |
| 19:26.51 | newbie_ | asg: /var/run/mysqld exists and is owned by mysql. The directory is empty though. |
| 19:27.25 | newbie_ | asg: each time I run mysql, i get the same error, and no .sock file is created. |
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| 19:27.35 | asg | newbie_: and starting mysql (with /etc/init.d/mysql start) doesn't create it? |
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| 19:28.13 | jnc | why does /tmp != /var/tmp |
| 19:28.15 | jnc | ? |
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| 19:28.22 | newbie_ | asg: yea.. that's where I'm getting the error |
| 19:28.26 | karsten | jnc: This isn't Solaris. |
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| 19:28.31 | jnc | karsten: it's a serious question |
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| 19:28.47 | karsten | jnc: Linuux FHS. /tmp is cleared on boot (or may be), /var/tmp is persistant across boots. |
| 19:28.50 | otroean | Have lost my root password. Help? |
| 19:28.52 | karsten | jnc: ... that was a serious response. |
| 19:28.53 | asg | jnc: /var/tmp exists to preserve on reboot |
| 19:28.56 | jnc | karsten: ah... thanks. |
| 19:28.57 | karsten | otroean: FAQ |
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| 19:29.00 | asg | otroean: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
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| 19:29.15 | tonsofpcs | is vorlon awake? |
| 19:29.25 | asg | !seen vorlon |
| 19:29.26 | dpkg | vorlon is currently on #debian (10h 43m 55s). Has said a total of 12736 messages. Is idling for 6h 19m 20s |
| 19:29.34 | jnc | karsten: i've always symlinked /tmp -> /var/tmp; until i saw in the Debian sarge netinst for i386 the other day, that a multi-user workstation has a seperate partition suggested for /tmp versus /var |
| 19:29.36 | tonsofpcs | i'll take that as a no :) |
| 19:29.43 | newbie_ | asg: thank god there are knowlegable ppl like you guys asg, cuz this stuff is waaaay beyond me. I'm so appreciative, btw. Thanks a ton for going through this with me! |
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| 19:29.46 | karsten | jnc: /msg dpkg fhs FYI. |
| 19:29.51 | jnc | karsten: thanks |
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| 19:29.55 | asg | tonsofpcs: no /away so he probably wandered off for a snack |
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| 19:30.37 | asg | dondelelcaro: oooooh, BSP |
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| 19:30.38 | dondelelcaro | diff: BSP THIS WEEKEND, eliminating extra words, moving sarge firefox about |
| 19:30.39 | karsten | jnc: _You_ can do that, however as a rule, it's not done that way. |
| 19:31.08 | cyril_ | Is it possible to use the same fonts as X-Chat in Xterm ? |
| 19:31.08 | jnc | karsten: i see why, i did not realise that /var/tmp and /tmp were handled with different treatment by the OS |
| 19:31.10 | karsten | jnc: ... and somethings may rely on /var/tmp files persisting across boots. |
| 19:31.25 | nvz | ho boy a bug squish |
| 19:31.50 | karsten | jnc: IIRC Solaris ties 'em together and tosses 'em into tempfs or something which is really swapspace. |
| 19:31.51 | teufel | how do I create a new user account again for my debian system? |
| 19:31.59 | dondelelcaro | teufel: with adduser foouser |
| 19:31.59 | karsten | teufel: man adduser |
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| 19:32.11 | teufel | thanks |
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| 19:32.20 | deadcat | when did xorg get to testing? |
| 19:32.31 | gotcha | s/foouser/fuser/ |
| 19:32.39 | gotcha | :) |
| 19:32.42 | deadcat | teufel: ya.. you run... bitch |
| 19:32.45 | thingfish | very recently |
| 19:32.46 | streuner | deadcat: its already in |
| 19:32.51 | deadcat | streuner: ya.. when? |
| 19:32.56 | blastM | i have some problem with apm in my laptop |
| 19:32.57 | blastM | :( |
| 19:33.00 | streuner | deadcat: why? |
| 19:33.05 | deadcat | no reason |
| 19:33.07 | jnc | karsten: ahh.. okay. i had not used Solaris in-depth. thanks for the info |
| 19:33.12 | karsten | deadcat: A couple of weeks ago. |
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| 19:33.15 | streuner | deadcat: look at pdo |
| 19:33.19 | deadcat | karsten: damn. |
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| 19:33.44 | karsten | jnc: It's been some years for me. I ran into this when /var/tmp wasn't always present on Linux (~1999), and some proprietary software expected to find it. |
| 19:33.55 | deadcat | streuner: thanks |
| 19:33.56 | ma3x | why tar -t won't list whats inside the archive |
| 19:34.00 | karsten | jnc: ... or something similar. |
| 19:34.05 | jnc | karsten: i remember that! /var/tmp popped up again all of a sudden |
| 19:34.06 | newbie_ | asg: still there, bud? |
| 19:34.08 | karsten | ma3x: tar tvf <archive> |
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| 19:34.28 | theD3viL | Where to look what deamons i have? |
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| 19:34.47 | karsten | jnc: It was */usr/tmp* that SAS wanted: http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=5&q=http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa%3FA2%3Dind0102a%26L%3Dsas-l%26F%3D%26S%3D%26P%3D50851&e=9797 |
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| 19:34.58 | Anthro | What is the dmcrypt equivalent of losetup -e? |
| 19:35.02 | ma3x | karsten, thank you sincerly |
| 19:35.07 | Rickyx | Hi, Can multiple name based VirtualHosts with SSL Certificates be hosted on a host with one single ip ? |
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| 19:35.28 | jnc | karsten: hey, would you have any experience with md raid1 and lvm2? |
| 19:35.28 | karsten | Rickyx: No. |
| 19:35.33 | Anthro | Rickyx: You want to ask that on #apache, but I seem to recall someone asking that yesterday and being told that the answer was no. |
| 19:35.34 | karsten | jnc: Minimal. |
| 19:35.46 | Rickyx | Okay! I'll talk about it there. |
| 19:35.48 | Rickyx | Thanks. |
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| 19:35.51 | jnc | karsten: i've got pretty awful write performance going on a cp -a operation... it's fairly depressing me ;) |
| 19:36.00 | karsten | Rickyx: SSL is handled at the IP level, *not* the vhost level. This has utterly screwed a lot of folks. |
| 19:36.00 | m2 | Rickyx: no |
| 19:36.01 | deadcat | whats this package? and why its not in sid? http://packages.debian.org/testing/source/xorg-x11 |
| 19:36.04 | ma3x | karma1, is it possible to create tar.zip or tar.gz (passwd protected) with one line command? |
| 19:36.12 | ma3x | karsten, this is for you, is it possible to create tar.zip or tar.gz (passwd protected) with one line command? |
| 19:36.16 | m2 | Rickyx: named virtual hosting is incompatible with SSL. |
| 19:36.16 | nav5 | I need some help. I just finished installing Debian Sarge for the first time. When I reboot the machine, it goes through all its configuration stuff, the last line that I get is starting Gnome Display Manage gdm, and then I just see stripes on my screen. Any ideas? |
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| 19:36.30 | Rickyx | Thanks for the info. |
| 19:36.34 | karsten | ma3x: tar.gz, yes. Password protected, possibly. |
| 19:36.40 | lakcaj | !tell nav5 about drx |
| 19:36.44 | karsten | tar czvf foo.tar.gz <path> |
| 19:37.03 | ma3x | karsten, that would be tar -cfz file. But what is the password switch -e ? |
| 19:37.08 | Rickyx | But I think a workaround would be to use 10 unique ip's on the same nic and then host 10 hosts with SSL Certificates ? |
| 19:37.18 | asg | newbie_: sorry, had to step away for a bit |
| 19:37.19 | ma3x | karsten, wow, thank you again! |
| 19:37.20 | karsten | ma3x: Dunno. RTFM or RTFIP |
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| 19:37.43 | asg | newbie_: what are the permissions on /var/run/mysql? (ls -l /var/run/mysql) |
| 19:37.45 | newbie_ | asg: no prob at all. |
| 19:37.46 | Anthro | RichiH: As long as they are on separate IP addresses it should work. |
| 19:37.58 | yoh | HIALL |
| 19:37.59 | asg | newbie_: or /var/run/mysqld |
| 19:37.59 | Anthro | Rickyx: As long as they are on separate IP addresses it should work. |
| 19:38.02 | Anthro | RichiH: Sorry |
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| 19:38.05 | yoh | does anyone use debarchiver? |
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| 19:38.11 | Feyr-Wrk | not should, but will |
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| 19:38.33 | newbie_ | asg: drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql root |
| 19:38.34 | Anthro | Rickyx: I might use stunnel for the purpose, but there are probably good reasons not to. |
| 19:38.34 | ice_1963 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:38.37 | Rickyx | Okay! Thanks. :-) |
| 19:38.45 | yoh | I need a quick advice about debarchiver - can't figure out how to make it to place in proper "sections"... |
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| 19:39.57 | ice_1963 | :0) |
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| 19:40.22 | newbie_ | asg: e1ccfc745b40371914cf142188af9fa9 /etc/init.d/mysql (whatever that means) |
| 19:40.24 | seferi | hi i wanna ask a question: i am using xchat for irc and when i wanna query someone, in status window xchat says "query :Unknown command". why does it happen |
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| 19:40.39 | Gathond | seferi: use /msg |
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| 19:41.19 | asg | newbie_: okay, that isn't the latest woody one. Did you edit it? |
| 19:41.31 | newbie_ | asg: i'm seeing tons of forums posts of people with the same problem, nobody really has a solution. |
| 19:41.37 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: thanks for trying to help - dropping in an sata drive has mitigated the issue, for now |
| 19:41.38 | newbie_ | asg: no.. I wouldn't know how to edit it. |
| 19:41.42 | tonsofpcs | newbie_ - then post more |
| 19:41.53 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: sorry you couldn't get it going. Glad you have a short-term solution though |
| 19:41.55 | seferi | i think a plugin is required |
| 19:42.00 | newbie_ | tonsofpcs: lol (should do.. but I'll wait until we found a solution) |
| 19:42.03 | RichiH | Anthro: np |
| 19:42.04 | nav5 | I have a "Intel(r) 82815 Graphics Controller" and I don't see that in the X server driver choices. Does that mean it is not supported? |
| 19:42.07 | seferi | or i need a lib file to solve this problem |
| 19:42.20 | asg | newbie_: okay, it just sounds like something left over from your previous install or from some other package version. |
| 19:42.30 | seferi | i dont open a private chat window |
| 19:42.32 | newbie_ | asg: cool |
| 19:42.42 | Gathond | newbie_: it does not happen to be the (note I have not tracked your conversation) oldpasswords=1 problem? |
| 19:42.43 | asg | newbie_: you are running woody right? no backports or non-standard sources in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 19:43.00 | JerJer[mobile] | asg: this will work for now - once i get a real system up i can drop in the proper drivers and have the 80gig scsi for storage :) |
| 19:43.07 | asg | JerJer[mobile]: nice |
| 19:43.17 | cahoot | Gathond: his error msg implied that |
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| 19:43.40 | newbie_ | asg: yes, running woody. here's my sourcelist: |
| 19:43.40 | newbie_ | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 19:43.40 | newbie_ | deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 19:43.40 | newbie_ | deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main |
| 19:43.40 | newbie_ | deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main |
| 19:43.41 | newbie_ | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
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| 19:43.45 | Anthro | What is the dmcrypt equivalent of losetup -e? |
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| 19:43.51 | Alex_BO | HELLO!I've a problem with transcode.I've compiled and installed it, but i can't find the "transcode" command.that can be possible? |
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| 19:44.18 | newbie_ | asg: sorry.. forgot I couldn't do that. |
| 19:44.22 | asg | Anthro: cryptsetup iirc |
| 19:44.30 | asg | newbie_: well, stable is now sarge, not woody. |
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| 19:44.47 | seferi | is there a turkish channel on this server |
| 19:44.55 | seferi | to get hep |
| 19:44.58 | seferi | help* |
| 19:45.14 | asg | !tr |
| 19:45.14 | dpkg | trke yardm iin #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 19:45.15 | newbie_ | asg: I don't have sarge (or broadband to download).. i'm going to order a cd set (I promise) but I need this up in the meanwhile. |
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| 19:45.35 | Anthro | asg: Ah, yes, thanks. |
| 19:45.51 | cahoot | newbie_: trycomment out the 'old_passwords' line in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 19:46.12 | newbie_ | cahoot: I did do that, but I get the same error, still. :( |
| 19:46.31 | asg | cahoot: he did but still had the issue. He had cruft from a previous install from source and now apparently has sarge sources on a woody box so things are a little messy. |
| 19:46.44 | newbie_ | asg: I'll say. |
| 19:47.08 | newbie_ | asg: ..not to mention, I'm a total newb -- but thanks for being so patient. |
| 19:47.11 | Alex_BO | HELLO!I've a problem with transcode.I've compiled and installed it, but i can't find the "transcode" command.that can be possible? |
| 19:47.46 | asg | newbie_: okay, what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' print? |
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| 19:48.13 | bomb | Alex_BO: it's in /usr/bin |
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| 19:48.46 | Alex_BO | bomb, what file name? transcode? i can't see it |
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| 19:48.59 | newbie_ | asg: PRINTS: ii libc6 2.3.5-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone Data |
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| 19:49.05 | asg | Alex_BO: find / -type f -name 'transcode' (it might not be in your path) |
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| 19:49.15 | bomb | Alex_BO" why are you compiling transcode anyway, there are debian packages for it |
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| 19:49.28 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 19:49.35 | Alex_BO | bomb, i have amd64, no packages for my processor |
| 19:49.40 | asg | !info libc6 etch |
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| 19:49.43 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-6 (etch), Packaged size: 4815 kB, Installed size: 16356 kB |
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| 19:49.47 | tarvid | i have a box with two interfaces - one facing the outside world and one facing an internal net |
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| 19:50.09 | asg | newbie_: well, you have either a testing or unstable libc6 but the first set of sources you pasted indicated you were running stable. |
| 19:50.16 | tarvid | i'd like to route local traffic over eth1 and internet traffic over eth0 |
| 19:50.20 | asg | newbie_: use the paster bot to paste the entire file if you don't mind. |
| 19:50.29 | asg | newbie_: /etc/apt/sources.list that is |
| 19:50.33 | tarvid | how do i set up the route table? |
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| 19:50.38 | asg | tarvid: man route |
| 19:50.46 | tarvid | i've done that |
| 19:50.49 | asg | tarvid: or man ip |
| 19:51.22 | grendelll | Is anyone else running Debian on their Apple PowerBook? |
| 19:51.38 | stew | grendelll: lots of people in #debianppc |
| 19:51.41 | grendelll | Thanks. |
| 19:51.57 | Alex_BO | asg: only /usr/local/lib/transcode ---> see in pv |
| 19:52.03 | nav5 | does anybody know how to use a "Intel(r) 82815 Graphics Controller" with Debian Sarge? |
| 19:52.11 | ma3x | when i do rar -a file.rar file.tar, it runs incredibly slow. You know why ? (i want to put a tar in a rar) |
| 19:52.16 | newbie_ | asg: http://channels.debian.net/paste/664. |
| 19:52.18 | tarvid | the default route table points both interfaces to the internal network |
| 19:52.30 | asg | Alex_BO: then whatever you installed was just a lib apparently |
| 19:52.37 | Alex_BO | asg, i'm wondering why i can't find that damnit binary |
| 19:52.54 | Alex_BO | asg, I've compiled without error! |
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| 19:53.53 | asg | newbie_: ah, dotdeb.org. That's probably the culprit. What does 'apt-cache policy mysql-server' print? |
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| 19:54.30 | Virtual | I have a computer and I want to share my connection with it, I have put cables between and configured all that is necessary, network is working but I need to share the connection, how can I share between eth2 and eth1, eth2 is the internet and eth1 the local network |
| 19:55.10 | newbie_ | asg: http://channels.debian.net/paste/665. |
| 19:55.17 | theD3viL | Where to look what deamons i have? |
| 19:55.34 | asg | theD3viL: netstat (will show you what's listening) |
| 19:55.56 | lakcaj | What version of gnome is etch expected to ship with? |
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| 19:56.17 | lakcaj | theD3viL, or look in /etc/init.d for the scripts |
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| 19:56.19 | dondelelcaro | lakcaj: hasn't been decided yet. |
| 19:56.27 | asg | newbie_: hmm, well, that's the version in sarge |
| 19:56.35 | theD3viL | lakcaj, TNX! |
| 19:56.44 | lakcaj | dondelelcaro, thanks for the info. |
| 19:56.46 | newbie_ | asg: is that bad, cuz I'm not running sarge? |
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| 19:56.52 | asg | newbie_: right |
| 19:56.54 | dondelelcaro | lakcaj: ideally, the newest at the time of release, but that really depends on how stable the upstream releases are. FWIW, the time based release schedule hasn't really helped with that. |
| 19:57.11 | polyfractal_ | Hey all. I have an executable I need to start when the machine boots. I know I need to add it to init.d, but I don't know how. Any help? |
| 19:57.19 | asg | newbie_: is a reinstall out of the question? |
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| 19:57.38 | asg | polyfractal_: copy it to /etc/init.d, create a symlink 'S99foo -> ../init.d/foo' |
| 19:57.39 | newbie_ | asg: no, but I don't have sarge installer. so I'd have to reinstall with woody. |
| 19:57.44 | lakcaj | dondelelcaro, right. I'm just wondering, for example, with each new gnome release, if they start upgrading everything in unstable to that release. |
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| 19:58.03 | asg | newbie_: that's fine as long as woody works with your system. You will be able to get a php4 apache ssl mysql setup running on woody. |
| 19:58.08 | theD3viL | lakcaj, everything in init.d startup?? |
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| 19:58.27 | newbie_ | asg: will you be here for a while? (remember, I'm on slow connection) |
| 19:58.28 | lakcaj | theD3viL, the ones that will start at boot are in /etc/rc1.d and etc/rc2.d |
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| 19:58.47 | theD3viL | lakcaj, and if i dont wanna to start them.... ? |
| 19:58.53 | asg | newbie_: sadly, I have to leave to get a new battery for my car but there will be people around who can help you once you have a base woody system up. |
| 19:58.55 | lakcaj | theD3viL, specifically, /etc/rc2.d. |
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| 19:59.02 | lakcaj | theD3viL, man update-rc.d |
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| 19:59.09 | asg | newbie_: I may be on later but I can't guarantee that at this time. |
| 19:59.11 | lakcaj | theD3viL, or apt-get install rcconf |
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| 19:59.20 | theD3viL | lakcaj, tnx |
| 19:59.27 | lakcaj | np |
| 19:59.34 | polyfractal_ | Asg: So copy the actual executable to /etc/init.d, and put a symlink in it's original directory pointing to /etc/init.d ? |
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| 19:59.46 | newbie_ | asg: the strange thing is I did a clean install this morning, and let my woody netinstall disk select the sources.. any other way around it besides a clean install? |
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| 20:00.08 | theD3viL | lakcaj, btw... i install irda-utils but irda dont works at all |
| 20:00.09 | lakcaj | polyfractal_, copy the executable to /etc/init.d and then "update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults" |
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| 20:00.46 | asg | polyfractal_: is your script in /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin? if so, you could link /etc/init.d/foo -> /usr/local/sbin/foo and then link /etc/rc2.d/S99foo -> /etc/init.d/foo (you could link to /usr/local/sbin directly also if you wanted to) |
| 20:00.52 | lakcaj | theD3viL, thanks for sharing :) |
| 20:01.02 | theD3viL | lakcaj, ?? |
| 20:01.19 | ice_1963 | can you still get woody ?????? |
| 20:01.28 | polyfractal_ | Asg: Its not a script. Its a bittorrent tracker executable. its located under a user's home dir |
| 20:01.29 | ice_1963 | were |
| 20:01.33 | theD3viL | lakcaj, pvt |
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| 20:01.34 | dondelelcaro | ice_1963: yes, you can... and please don't use so much punctuation. |
| 20:01.37 | asg | newbie_: well, it's hard to tell what you have installed that came from sarge/etch/unstable so it's much cleaner to do it over. |
| 20:01.44 | hcy | hi guys, trying a sarge netinst on a sun ultra, gets to about 61% of the install, then debootstrap exits with an error. |
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| 20:01.57 | lakcaj | thanks for sharing the info about installing something and something not working |
| 20:01.59 | newbie_ | asg: no problem.. but how do I make sure that I'm not grabbing sarge files? |
| 20:02.01 | hcy | ""The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Check /var/log/messages or see virtual console 3 for the details." |
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| 20:02.18 | asg | newbie_: when it asks for sources, manually edit them and make sure they say woody and not stable (or anything else) |
| 20:02.20 | djp | any idea why my torrent downloads are working at a snails pace? |
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| 20:02.23 | ice_1963 | ok |
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| 20:02.24 | hcy | the logs say: Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 20:02.42 | hcy | /var/cache/apt/archives/base-config_2.53.10_all.deb, console-data_blah_all.deb, dhcp-client.....deb, libssl.....deb, nvi....deb, pppconfig.....deb, tasksel.....deb. umount: /target/dev/pts: invalid argument. /target/dev/shm: invalid argument. /target/proc/bus/usb: invalid argument. |
| 20:02.43 | theD3viL | lakcaj, oh.. you sceared me |
| 20:02.44 | theD3viL | ;) |
| 20:02.47 | hcy | what can i do? |
| 20:02.53 | lakcaj | asg, why create symlinks in /etc/rc2.d instead of using the update-rc.d utility? |
| 20:02.53 | asg | polyfractal_: then just use /etc/init.d/skeleton as an example for calling it. |
| 20:02.58 | djp | download rate is currently 5kbs on a 2mbp adsl connection! |
| 20:02.59 | newbie_ | asg: can you tell me which source loc to use (if there's just one good one?) |
| 20:03.06 | asg | lakcaj: no reason, it's easier for me personally. |
| 20:03.16 | polyfractal_ | Asg: Ok, thanks :) |
| 20:03.20 | newbie_ | asg: maybe I should just get a sarge cd set and wait it out. |
| 20:03.22 | asg | newbie_: ftp.XY.debian.org (where XY is your country code) |
| 20:03.35 | theD3viL | lakcaj, omg.. i am NOOB ! ;) i wanna asked why dont works ;) what i must install? brb 10 min ,9 |
| 20:03.48 | pbmax | With the new four-node kernel numbering, must I apply all four-node patches consecutively, or can I go from three-node right to the next three-node? (ex: 2.6.11 -> 2.6.12) |
| 20:03.54 | Selecter | Hi ALL! Xfree86 memory leaks. Pls have a look if you experience the same problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=325867 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=297959 |
| 20:03.59 | asg | newbie_: that would be good too. You could start a download overnight; it should be there in the morning. You only need one disc to get started (or even a netinstall if your hardware is friendly) |
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| 20:04.35 | lakcaj | polyfractal_, fyi, the update-rc.d utility is used to automagically create and remove symlinks to the scripts you have in /etc/init.d. I think it would be the preferred way, rather than creating the symlinks yourself in /etc/rc2.d, but the end result is the same, so whatever you find easier. |
| 20:04.42 | Virtual | I have a computer and I want to share my connection with it, I have put cables between and configured all that is necessary, network is working but I need to share the connection, how can I share between eth2 and eth1, eth2 is the internet and eth1 the local network |
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| 20:04.56 | newbie_ | asg: do you have a link for a stable sarge install (the smallest?) |
| 20:05.34 | asg | newbie_: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 20:06.04 | newbie_ | cool.. thanks asg |
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| 20:06.12 | newbie_ | for all yer help |
| 20:06.13 | asg | you're welcome. Good luck if I don't see you later |
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| 20:06.25 | hcy | asg: my turn :) |
| 20:06.29 | ice_1963 | get a 4-port Router |
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| 20:06.46 | asg | hcy: :) I have to leave soon and get a new battery for the car |
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| 20:07.07 | hcy | asg: i've been trying since last night to get debian installed on a sun ultra 5, no luck |
| 20:07.25 | newbie_ | asg: it would be a blessing not to see me later .. heheheh... but we both know that [for a newb] that's probably not going to be the case. |
| 20:07.34 | asg | hcy: I've only ever installed it on a Sun Blade 100 (though I have a sparcstation 20) |
| 20:07.40 | asg | newbie_: you never know :) |
| 20:07.50 | newbie_ | asg: true that. |
| 20:07.52 | grendelll | I've been trying to install on a 12" Aluminum PowerBook, but with no luck. |
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| 20:07.58 | newbie_ | asg: good luck with your car battery. |
| 20:08.03 | asg | newbie_: :) thanks |
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| 20:08.15 | hcy | asg: i've tried a netinst disc - it gets stuck and doesn't even start the installer. i tried the minimal boot image - has errors. and i tried a netboot and has other errors. tried a netboot with sarge, and another with woody. i'll install the car battery for you if you do the debian for me :) |
| 20:08.27 | newbie_ | hcy: lol |
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| 20:08.51 | grendelll | the debian-testing-powerpc-netinst ends up with the menus bugging out. |
| 20:08.55 | asg | hcy: did you happen to ask #debian-sparc? |
| 20:09.17 | djp | anyone help me with torrents under debian 3.1? |
| 20:09.18 | hcy | asg: yes, there's only one guy there, in and out, who does try his best to help me but he seems stumped too |
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| 20:09.35 | hcy | djp: apt-get install bittorrent |
| 20:09.36 | Pendragon | I have a a document that has lines with 100 + cols, in vim what is the shortcut to change all lines so they have no more than 80 cols in them? |
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| 20:10.02 | djp | hcy, have done. however the torrents are downloading at a snails pace. 4-5kbs on average |
| 20:10.02 | Pendragon | I tried :set columns=80 but when I save and reopen the document, it is right back where it started |
| 20:10.15 | djp | i used the bitotorrent-gui |
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| 20:10.24 | hcy | djp: firewall? router? |
| 20:10.41 | asg | hcy: have you ever been able to install a linux or *BSD distro on it? |
| 20:10.59 | hcy | asg: no, i just got it yesterday |
| 20:11.01 | djp | hcy, i have only installed the default desktop install of debian 3.1. not sure if it sets up a firewall. no router here. |
| 20:11.19 | hcy | djp: hmmm shouldn't be a problem then |
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| 20:11.39 | asg | hcy: hmm, well you might try another distro (if only to verify that it's a debian problem since it doesn't appear to be an system that debian won't run on.) |
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| 20:11.59 | hcy | asg: what's another distro that's easy to install, then, that i could try? |
| 20:12.21 | asg | hcy: if you can, the #debian-boot people might be interested. Also, you can use debootstrap to install debian in a spare partition after installing a RH or something else and then purge the non-debian distro after things are working. |
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| 20:12.26 | hcy | asg: and something not too different than debian if i'm gonna have to use it |
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| 20:12.49 | Pendragon | anyone here know vim well? |
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| 20:13.07 | asg | hcy: good question, I'm not sure what supports sparcs these days. Fedora might (remember, this is just to verify that Debian is or is not the problem.) |
| 20:13.08 | stew | Pendragon: people in #vim certainly do |
| 20:13.10 | deadcat | hcy: suse is easy to install. fedora. mandriva |
| 20:13.14 | Pendragon | oh ok |
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| 20:14.20 | ma3x | must i have self compiled kernel, to use fuse? |
| 20:14.35 | ma3x | fuse-source* |
| 20:14.37 | ice_1963 | fedora is good Debian is THE BEST |
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| 20:14.58 | asg | ma3x: you could use module-assistant |
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| 20:15.42 | S4nD3r | Hi there |
| 20:15.55 | Virtual | I have a computer and I want to share my connection with it, I have put cables between and configured all that is necessary, network is working but I need to shae the connection |
| 20:16.04 | asg | Virtual: /msg dpkg ipmasq |
| 20:16.38 | asg | Virtual: the last bit (/msg dpkg masq) should give you some clues |
| 20:16.43 | Virtual | asg will that help me if I want to share between eth2 and eth1 ? |
| 20:16.47 | ice_1963 | ok get a lift |
| 20:16.53 | asg | Virtual: what do you mean by 'share'? |
| 20:17.04 | theD3viL | lakcaj, how to add autostart script ? |
| 20:17.18 | Virtual | eth2 has internet connection, I am on it now, and I want to give internet connection to eth1 that is the link to my other computer |
| 20:17.33 | asg | Virtual: then yes, /msg dpkg masq should have the info you need to do that. |
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| 20:18.25 | lakcaj | theD3viL, what script? |
| 20:18.34 | nvz | fuck! no sooner to I take the plate of my lap... I drip condiment on myself |
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| 20:18.50 | djp | hcy, 102kbs and rising. must have been to torrents are was trying to download. by the way, is the only way to use the torrents with epiphany, to download the .torrent file then associate it with btdownloadgui and double click the .torrent file? |
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| 20:19.17 | S4nD3r | Where do I use sudo ??? |
| 20:19.21 | jtwronski | nvz: make clean |
| 20:19.28 | Virtual | asg yes I know that iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE but it does not work, I think is trying to share my eth0 which is broken and I don`t use (onboard NIC), can I specify the input from eth2 ? |
| 20:19.34 | S4nD3r | If theres documentation about it in portugueses I thank U |
| 20:19.58 | theD3viL | lakcaj, m... autostart xchat, gaim... |
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| 20:20.09 | aprediz | pessoal estou com o gnu entro como visitante estou tentando salvar um arquivo de sites bloqueados no \etc\squid\bloqueados e nćo consigo. |
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| 20:20.22 | nvz | !br |
| 20:20.22 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 20:20.30 | streuner | nvr: good guess :-) |
| 20:20.36 | lakcaj | theD3viL, in gnome, Applications -> Desktop Preferences -> Advanced -> Sessions |
| 20:20.37 | nvz | guess? |
| 20:20.59 | aprediz | dpkg os cara ,, nćo me ajudaram desta vez...rss |
| 20:21.03 | streuner | nvz: why, do you speak portuges? |
| 20:21.09 | gorbekuchulu | as a non root, how can I add a custom path to be searched along with /usr/include (while building something from source) |
| 20:21.10 | aprediz | sorry,,/ |
| 20:21.15 | theD3viL | lakcaj, why is ssh autostart? .. [sry too many questions] .. and what is atd, cron ... i read man .. but nothing special.. |
| 20:21.18 | nvz | streuner: no but I speak spanish and I didnt understand that :P |
| 20:21.26 | aprediz | i don“t speak english vry well. |
| 20:21.28 | streuner | nvz: hehe :-) |
| 20:21.30 | asg | Virtual: you might need to use route(8) to point eth2 at eth1 in this case |
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| 20:21.59 | Virtual | asg route(8) ? |
| 20:22.05 | hcy | djp: epiphany's been misbehaving for me lately. i prefer to save the file to disk and manually pass it to btdownload... of course i avoid gui's whenever possible. I use btlaunchmanycurses |
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| 20:22.08 | asg | Virtual: don't forget 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' |
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| 20:22.15 | asg | Virtual: setup a static route between eth2 and eth1 |
| 20:22.16 | Virtual | did that |
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| 20:22.29 | Virtual | asg how do I do that, any tutorial? |
| 20:22.56 | asg | Virtual: lartc.org has lots a HOWTO that should cover things |
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| 20:23.04 | djp | hcy, would the gui cause me problems then do you hink? or is that just a personal taste thing? ;) |
| 20:23.06 | lakcaj | Virtual, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/23 |
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| 20:23.23 | hcy | no i don't think the gui would cause you problems djp |
| 20:23.27 | polyfractal_ | La |
| 20:23.28 | polyfractal_ | Err |
| 20:23.32 | djp | hcy. cheers |
| 20:23.37 | Virtual | lakcaj: thanks, I will try |
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| 20:23.50 | lakcaj | theD3viL, if you want to remove ssh from startup, "update-rc.d -f ssh remove". atd and cron are used by the system to run commands at certain times, I would leave them there. |
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| 20:24.00 | polyfractal_ | Lakcaj: quick question. do I put the actual executable in init.d before running update-rc.d, or do I use the script I just made (from skeleton) ? |
| 20:24.03 | djp | hcy, seems we are doing the same thing, just one with a guin and one without! ;) |
| 20:24.04 | Virtual | asg: any idea why I cannot connect my internet connection to my onboard NIC and with another NIC (eth2) it works? same settings, everything the same? |
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| 20:24.33 | nvz | streuner: portugues looks like spanish for the most part.. but the a with the squiggly isnt in the alphabet and the usage of "o" wasnt right either.. then I noticed strange verb congragation.. knew it had to be portuguese |
| 20:24.39 | lakcaj | polyfractal_, the whole script goes in init.d, but you do need to chmod 755 it (or whatever perms you prefer) |
| 20:24.42 | asg | Virtual: a duplex mismatch between eth0 and your upstream switch perhaps. |
| 20:24.53 | Virtual | asp it`s a cable modem |
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| 20:25.28 | polyfractal_ | Lakcaj: Ok. so, from my understanding, update-rc.d will create nescessary symlinks to call the /etc/init.d/myapp, which will in turn start my actual executable (located somewhere else). Correct? |
| 20:25.30 | theD3viL | lakcaj, i installed rcconf .. and i unselect ssh... anythink else to unselect..? (what you dont need? ;)) |
| 20:25.50 | lakcaj | polyfractal_, correct. |
| 20:25.50 | asg | Virtual: hmmm, still possible but unlikely unless your onboard is really crappy. Can you disable it in BIOS? and just use the other two? |
| 20:25.50 | polyfractal_ | Ok. thanks :D |
| 20:25.53 | J_P | hey, what port icmp use ? |
| 20:25.57 | nvz | streuner: there are 30 letters in the spanish alphabet and that wasnt one of them |
| 20:25.58 | asg | J_P: it doesn't |
| 20:26.04 | J_P | asg: not ? |
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| 20:26.22 | nvz | actually I can only think of 3 letters in spanish that arent in english off the top of my head but I am pretty sure there are 4 |
| 20:26.24 | asg | J_P: no, there are different types of ICMP responses but no port |
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| 20:26.32 | Virtual | asg I will try |
| 20:26.33 | Virtual | brb |
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| 20:26.54 | Bob332 | Help, I have a new install of sarge, connected to two networks, eth0 is public ip, eth1 is private ip |
| 20:26.59 | J_P | asg: when i ping to one ip and this not response.. some port are blocked ? |
| 20:27.02 | Bob332 | cant ping public ip |
| 20:27.14 | lakcaj | theD3viL, you can get rid of the nfs stuff if you aren't doing network file sharing, |
| 20:27.24 | SimonRaven | ping doesn't use ports |
| 20:27.26 | lakcaj | theD3viL, nfs-common |
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| 20:27.39 | SimonRaven | only tcp and udp use ports |
| 20:27.55 | asg | J_P: no, some ICMP traffic is being blocked. |
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| 20:28.01 | SimonRaven | oh, well one other, but it's not in such common use anymore |
| 20:28.02 | theD3viL | lakcaj, k ill |
| 20:28.03 | asg | J_P: sudo /sbin/iptables -p icmp -h (the available types) |
| 20:28.10 | SimonRaven | ddp |
| 20:28.10 | nvz | I can think of the che, elle, and e?e |
| 20:28.40 | nvz | maybe there are only 29.. and I am thinking there are 30 for some reason |
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| 20:29.04 | nvz | oh year some people consider erre as well probably is what I am thinking of |
| 20:29.32 | theD3viL | lakcaj, tnx for anything.. other in rcconf is probably for X..and for sistem startup nessesery right? |
| 20:29.54 | lakcaj | theD3viL, yeah, there really aren't that many to get rid of that you don't actually need. |
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| 20:30.54 | SiliconViper | So.... short of swapping /dev/dsp0 and /dev/dsp1, how do I set the default soundcard for non-alsa stuff? |
| 20:30.58 | polyfractal_ | How do you rename a dir in linux?> |
| 20:31.12 | asg | polyfractal_: mv |
| 20:31.13 | SiliconViper | polyfractal_, mv <dirname> <newdirname> |
| 20:31.16 | polyfractal_ | Thanks :D |
| 20:31.29 | theD3viL | lakcaj, if i am right.. it was so in fc2 ;) when i using it.. i have many many services.. and i turned off couple.. and fc2 works fastes.. |
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| 20:32.11 | lakcaj | theD3viL, I'm not sure what you are asking. Will disabling some services speed up you system? Potentially, yes. |
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| 20:32.39 | lakcaj | Virtual, here's some more documentation: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html |
| 20:32.44 | theD3viL | lakcaj, yes.. not asking ... just telling :) |
| 20:32.51 | lakcaj | theD3viL, then I agree :) |
| 20:33.06 | theD3viL | lakcaj, how long do you using debian |
| 20:33.13 | theD3viL | or linux |
| 20:33.19 | lakcaj | couple years, linux, about 8 or 9 |
| 20:33.38 | theD3viL | pff =) nice |
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| 20:33.56 | lakcaj | they had redhat in a lab in first year uni, and I've just been using it since. |
| 20:34.10 | theD3viL | =) |
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| 20:34.35 | theD3viL | iam just begginer :) .. 1 year :$ ;) |
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| 20:36.34 | lakcaj | theD3viL, well, just stay persistent. I wish I knew 10% of what some of the people in this channel know. |
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| 20:38.07 | theD3viL | lakcaj, :) .. but iam not human who have win + linux and live a whole day on win and tell he using linux... i have only linux.. and native linux games :) |
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| 20:38.32 | deadcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.40 | theD3viL | yes =) |
| 20:38.51 | lakcaj | theD3viL, that's the best way to learn... just use it. |
| 20:38.52 | deadcat | theD3viL: those are the guys i LOVE to make fun off actually |
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| 20:39.31 | lakcaj | I have to take a shower after I boot into someone else's windows box... I just feel so "dirty" :) |
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| 20:39.41 | theD3viL | =)=) |
| 20:39.42 | theD3viL | hehehe |
| 20:39.42 | theD3viL | :> |
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| 20:40.04 | theD3viL | my friend wrote a programm which stole winxp keys :D |
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| 20:40.21 | lakcaj | Oh, I thought of an awsome name to use instead of MS Longhorn.... MS Stillborne :) |
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| 20:40.25 | deadcat | theD3viL: you dont have to write a program. just go to your university lab and copy them down |
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| 20:40.36 | theD3viL | =) |
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| 20:40.43 | lakcaj | that's a lakcaj original :) |
| 20:40.57 | jmoesen | anyone here have experience with postfix and/or lmtp? |
| 20:41.10 | asg | jmoesen: nobody in #postfix? |
| 20:41.17 | jmoesen | asg: alas :-) |
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| 20:41.36 | jmoesen | asg: does it show i'm desparate? :-) |
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| 20:41.57 | jmoesen | asg: it just seems like there's noone awake in #postfix |
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| 20:42.08 | Lumination | hello. I'm running xinerama on X with an integrated i810 as primary and an ati rage xl as secondary... everything was okay with the vesa driver on the ati, but then I switched the driver to 'ati' hoping to get some hardware accelleration out of it, and now my mouse jerks about every second... the intermittent stops and starts seem to have the exact same amount of time between them, does that seem familiar to anyone? |
| 20:42.11 | asg | jmoesen: I know, they aren't very talkative |
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| 20:42.39 | jmoesen | asg: maybe they prefer e-mail (ha! i should be a writer for conan o'brien!) |
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| 20:43.39 | Jackel | anyone have a suggestion on a decent video player? |
| 20:43.52 | deadcat | xine |
| 20:43.53 | beardy | Jackel: mplayer /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 20:44.06 | Jackel | thanks ;) |
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| 20:44.22 | lakcaj | Jackel, vlc is nice too |
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| 20:44.38 | Jackel | hmm ok |
| 20:44.40 | Jackel | i need someone |
| 20:44.43 | Jackel | thats fairly low |
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| 20:44.45 | Jackel | on resources |
| 20:44.46 | Jackel | ;) |
| 20:45.01 | deadcat | !tell Jackel about enter |
| 20:45.02 | Jackel | my PC isn't what you call "speedy" |
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| 20:45.11 | ma3x | anyone has gmailfs? |
| 20:45.28 | deadcat | no |
| 20:45.30 | theD3viL | lakcaj, in which servers do you booting :) |
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| 20:45.38 | Om | mplayer > * |
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| 20:46.02 | Jackel | theD3viL: sorry, i don't understand |
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| 20:46.04 | Jackel | ? |
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| 20:46.13 | deadcat | Om: on your machine maybe |
| 20:46.24 | cusco | ma3x: I get this error about fuse mounting |
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| 20:46.53 | lakcaj | theD3viL, http://pastebin.ca/22413 |
| 20:47.08 | ma3x | cusco, I know, fusermount: fuse device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first |
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| 20:47.33 | cusco | ma3x: I belive with me was different.. |
| 20:47.39 | theD3viL | lakcaj, :> |
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| 20:48.00 | ma3x | cusco, what was you? |
| 20:48.22 | ma3x | I have the src of fuse but dunno howto compile it |
| 20:48.24 | Frankie_ | Some other app has modified my x11 colormap so that blue is spit out instead of a different color when called, how can i just clear all my x11 colormaps and reset them to default? |
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| 20:48.39 | djp | do system sounds not work by default under debian 3.1? |
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| 20:48.53 | hoarycripple | after doing a dist-upgrade, i get fatal error: could not find default font fixed when starting X. I installed xfs and this seems to fix things, but what is the problem and what is the correct way to fix this? |
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| 20:49.06 | theD3viL | lakcaj, http://pastebin.ca/22414 <- why i have it so many ? ;) |
| 20:49.11 | deadcat | djp: what the f is system sound? |
| 20:49.30 | cusco | ma3x: can't remember sory |
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| 20:49.34 | zxcv | hoarycripple: if you already fixed the problem, where's the problem? |
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| 20:50.00 | ma3x | how do i load module from file? |
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| 20:50.02 | ma3x | modprobe file? |
| 20:50.03 | SimonRaven | hoarycripple: installing xfonts-fixed |
| 20:50.05 | lakcaj | theD3viL, do you have a printer? |
| 20:50.11 | ma3x | or am i talking bullshit? |
| 20:50.16 | djp | deadcat, like when you empty the waste basket, when the window manager boots up etc... |
| 20:50.23 | SimonRaven | hoarycripple: xfs probably pulled in xfonts-fixed when you installed it |
| 20:50.32 | deadcat | djp: thats not debian |
| 20:50.35 | theD3viL | lakcaj, yes.. hp (hpijs) |
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| 20:50.48 | hoarycripple | SimonRaven, i have no package called xfonts-fixed |
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| 20:50.55 | djp | deadcat, ah ok. thanks. |
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| 20:51.33 | Frankie_ | wow |
| 20:51.38 | Frankie_ | nodesktop is FAST |
| 20:51.39 | SimonRaven | hoarycripple: er, -base |
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| 20:51.48 | Frankie_ | i keep forgetting i'm on a machine 5000 miles away |
| 20:51.53 | Frankie_ | err nomachine that is |
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| 20:52.06 | Anthro | I'm trying to get a procmail recipe to both forward a message and save it in a folder. I thought I could just have two lines after a :0, but it ignores the second line. How do I do it? |
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| 20:52.08 | ma3x | FATAL: Error inserting fuse (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko): Invalid module format |
| 20:52.12 | ma3x | why the hell is that showing up? |
| 20:52.13 | beardy | Frankie_: What is it? |
| 20:52.17 | hoarycripple | SimonRaven, so if that is the case, i should now be able to remove xfs and things should still work...will try it |
| 20:52.28 | Frankie_ | another remote desktop/vnc/terminal server app |
| 20:52.37 | Py | On sarge, after creating simples /etc/hotplug/usb/stick.usermap and stick, should it work "directly" or have to restart some part of hotplug? |
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| 20:52.40 | Cyb-- | Etch netinstall for amd64 is broken.... |
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| 20:52.42 | SimonRaven | YARDA |
| 20:52.50 | Frankie_ | but it caches the data instead of just pumping it so it is REALLY fast and uses very little bandwidth |
| 20:52.53 | lakcaj | theD3viL, ok, then that's why cupsys and lpd are in there. The ones that start with S are started, and the ones with K are killed, or not started. So, you really only have one or two services starting than I do. I removed exim4 and inetd, but that can have some consequences, so I won't "recommend" that. |
| 20:52.54 | SimonRaven | Yet Another Remote Desktop App |
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| 20:53.04 | Frankie_ | it's quite nice |
| 20:53.04 | c01100011 | i want to recompile my kernel but can't find the howto i used last time, found a few on google but they don't look solid, where is a good debian kernel howto ? |
| 20:53.07 | stew | ma3x: you need to compile the module with gcc-3.3, not gcc-4.0 |
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| 20:53.31 | ma3x | stew, and then it will work? |
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| 20:54.02 | beardy | c01100011: The Debian Reference, /msg dpkg reference, and /msg dpkg make-kpkg, /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 20:54.04 | lakcaj | !tell c01100011 about kernel-package |
| 20:54.06 | cadu | how can i make my usb pendrive always get the same device when plugged (something like /dev/usbpendrive or so) |
| 20:54.08 | theD3viL | lakcaj, for what exim-4 and inetd is? |
| 20:54.12 | stew | ma3x: did you compile it with gcc4? if so then thats almost definately a problem. |
| 20:54.29 | deadcat | cadu: usbmount ? |
| 20:54.37 | cadu | i have a bunch of scsi disks i keep removing and adding and sucks to have the pendrive in constant moving sdX |
| 20:54.49 | cadu | deadcat: you tell me :) |
| 20:54.51 | cadu | !usbmount |
| 20:54.58 | deadcat | shit. i dont know |
| 20:55.10 | lakcaj | theD3viL, exim4 is a mail transfer agent. Some programs like to email root about their status or errors, etc. It can also be used for local mail services. |
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| 20:55.23 | ma3x | stew, ./configure CC=gcc3 ? |
| 20:55.28 | stew | cadu: you could use udev |
| 20:55.34 | SimonRaven | @YARDA is <reply> Yet Another Remote Desktop App: xvnc4viewer, xtightvncviewer, tsclient, rdesktop and several others are clients for VNC and related applications |
| 20:55.36 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: okay |
| 20:55.38 | cadu | stew: but then i would have to use udev for all ? |
| 20:55.47 | cadu | stew: the device files already work okay on my system |
| 20:55.49 | lakcaj | theD3viL, and as far as I can see, in debian at least, inetd doesn't seem to do a whole lot of anything, so I removed it :) |
| 20:56.00 | Py | any source on info about hotplug and usermap files? Trying to customize it somewhat on sarge... |
| 20:56.02 | theD3viL | lakcaj, emails i have to check with firefox ;) |
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| 20:56.21 | stew | ma3x: i have no idea. i haven't read the install docs for whatever you are trying to compile. possibly just CC variable, possibly HOSTCC variable, possibly you just need to temporarily change the gcc symlink |
| 20:56.24 | beardy | !tell cadu about usb storage |
| 20:56.28 | beardy | perhaps.. |
| 20:56.28 | stew | cadu: you would have to use udev for all, yes |
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| 20:56.56 | cadu | beardy: yeah i know but sometimes the usbkey gets /dev/sda , sometimes /dev/sdb...sulks :( |
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| 20:57.07 | lakcaj | talk to you all later |
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| 20:57.33 | beardy | cadu: ok |
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| 20:58.55 | c01100011 | to compile something with gcc3.3 when the latest i have is for do i CC=3.3 ? |
| 20:59.02 | c01100011 | CC=gcc3.3* |
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| 20:59.34 | SimonRaven | gcc-3.3 |
| 21:00.19 | SimonRaven | i.e., CC=gcc-3.3 HOSTCC=gcc-3.3 |
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| 21:01.30 | sophacles | hi all. question about openoffice.org i have the latest testing package. my system is mostly testing, w/ some unstable. lately when i start up OO.o it sits on the splash screen for like 3-5 minutes doing nothing before actually going into whichever app im using. have i configured something wrong? |
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| 21:02.44 | asg | sophacles: check the bts or consult #debian-oo perhaps |
| 21:02.45 | SimonRaven | no, it's just a giant hog. this is why ooprelink exists |
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| 21:03.26 | sombra | Is it a security risk to have executable files in /tmp/ ? |
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| 21:03.36 | asg | sombra: it can be |
| 21:03.48 | sombra | asg, give me an example pls |
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| 21:03.51 | sophacles | asg: thanks |
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| 21:04.45 | asg | sombra: if root stupidly has '.' in their path, a file with the name of a standard command in /tmp can be used to generate a root shell |
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| 21:05.29 | Prod-Me | Hi, ive tried installing debian on an old comp (200 mmx p1) i got deb 3.0r2i3 running and then did a dist-upgrade (also installed bittorrent) now lilo doesnt work |
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| 21:05.53 | Lotario | hi, i have some problem with my ethernet card. anyone can help me? |
| 21:05.55 | Prod-Me | it starts booting, then when lilo is supposed to start it just says "LI" and stops |
| 21:06.01 | asg | !li |
| 21:06.01 | dpkg | if 'LI' is printed when the system is booted, it means that your drive is probably too large (OR you simply forgot to run 'lilo'). There is a Large-disk-mini-howto. Read it.. Boot the rescue disk, edit lilo.conf and add 'lba32' then try again., or (if drive geometry has changed) try booting from the rescue disk, mounting /, and rerunning lilo. Or you could try grub instead. :) Lithium, or Liechtenstein. |
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| 21:06.44 | Prod-Me | thnx dpkg |
| 21:07.00 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 21:07.00 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 21:07.21 | deadcat | thats not a bot,, this is a bot |
| 21:07.33 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.37 | SimonRaven | @boot deadcat |
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| 21:08.16 | Lotario | i need help with a marvell yukon 88E8036 |
| 21:08.39 | Lotario | please :) |
| 21:08.40 | SimonRaven | a who? |
| 21:09.01 | Lotario | ethrnet card....marvel yukon 88e8036 |
| 21:09.08 | Prod-Me | whats strange is that lilo was working with my "largish" drive before i did a dist-upgrade.... |
| 21:09.20 | streuner | Lotario: we need the chipset |
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| 21:09.26 | SimonRaven | ah |
| 21:09.35 | Lotario | SysKonnect chip |
| 21:09.36 | SimonRaven | still need chipset |
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| 21:09.55 | SimonRaven | what does lspci say about it? |
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| 21:10.11 | SimonRaven | and don't paste here |
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| 21:10.26 | SimonRaven | @tell me about enter |
| 21:10.40 | stockholm | dondelelcaro: ? |
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| 21:10.50 | ModBoyzz | no gaim for debian :( |
| 21:10.51 | sminofice | Does anyone know an easy and powerfull programming language to learn? |
| 21:10.55 | Lotario | ethernet controller: marvell thechnology grioup ltd.: unknown device |
| 21:10.56 | newbie_ | asg: are you there, bud> |
| 21:11.01 | BobbyGrace | Does anyone now how to force a new page when using linuxdoc-tools to make pdf ? |
| 21:11.16 | streuner | Lotario: laptop? |
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| 21:11.33 | [Lua] | hey mothafuckers |
| 21:11.36 | Lotario | yes, a satellite m-50 |
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| 21:11.39 | sminofice | eletricelf do u know an easy and powerful language to learn??? |
| 21:11.40 | SimonRaven | Lotario: run sudo update-pciids |
| 21:11.41 | black_Nightmare | hey there |
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| 21:11.52 | asg | newbie_: just on my way out |
| 21:11.53 | beardy | [Lua]: You sure like to have a bad start. |
| 21:11.54 | streuner | Lotario: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 21:12.00 | SimonRaven | ModBoyzz: it exists |
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| 21:12.13 | asg | newbie_: my ride is a little late |
| 21:12.16 | sminofice | Whats a good programing language to start learning? |
| 21:12.19 | SimonRaven | [Lua]: talking like that is sure to earn you scorn for a long time |
| 21:12.20 | ModBoyzz | oh sweet... where can i dl it? |
| 21:12.28 | SimonRaven | apt-get install gaim |
| 21:12.33 | [Lua] | beardy fuck you, big ass, you should user slackware |
| 21:12.33 | ModBoyzz | beautiful |
| 21:12.35 | deadcat | !ops [Lua] being an ass once he got here. |
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| 21:12.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: [Lua] being an ass once he got here. |
| 21:12.41 | newbie_ | asg: okay. i'm going through the sarge install and just chose to go with apache2 (through base-config) rather than trying to stay with 1.3 (what I know).. maybe that'll fix'r. |
| 21:12.56 | SimonRaven | ah, slackware troll. *yawn* |
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| 21:12.59 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
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| 21:13.02 | asg | newbie_: either 1.3 or 2.x should work. I've used both on sarge. |
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| 21:13.05 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@201.22.211.46.adsl.gvt.net.br] by mentor |
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| 21:13.09 | newbie_ | asg: if I have any more questions, I'll keep an eye out for you later tonight. thanks again for EVERYTHING. |
| 21:13.09 | asg | SimonRaven: not even a good one either |
| 21:13.10 | *** mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
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| 21:13.17 | asg | newbie_: you're welcome. Good luck with it. |
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| 21:13.20 | mentor | fun fun fun |
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| 21:13.28 | Patrick` | why have there been no prepackaged kernels for powerpc after 2.4.27? |
| 21:13.32 | SimonRaven | asg: indeed |
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| 21:13.42 | ModBoyzz | anyone know what the su password is for damn small linux? |
| 21:13.47 | sminofice | Whats a good programing language to start learning? |
| 21:13.48 | deadcat | Patrick`: cus you're using stable? or old stable? |
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| 21:13.52 | cadu | Patrick`: maybe 2.6 series is a bit borked or so |
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| 21:14.00 | deadcat | ModBoyzz: sudo su - |
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| 21:14.12 | Patrick` | deadcat: testing |
| 21:14.17 | crispynix-v6 | anyone know why nvidia-glx 7676 hasn't been packaged? |
| 21:14.25 | Patrick` | cadu: could be, 2.6 is frozen at 2.6.8 as well |
| 21:14.30 | deadcat | Patrick`: bullshit. |
| 21:14.30 | streuner | mentor: might be a kick/ban fan ;-) |
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| 21:14.41 | mentor | heh |
| 21:14.42 | beardy | sminofice: Choose one. There are a lot of languages.. python perhaps? C? http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/abc.html |
| 21:14.45 | Patrick` | deadcat: I know what my system is, maybe they renamed them? |
| 21:14.59 | streuner | mentor: well, there are people out there who like that |
| 21:15.04 | Patrick` | apt-cache search kernel image yeilds nothing above 2.4.27. and I'm definitely using testing |
| 21:15.10 | deadcat | Patrick`: search for image then |
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| 21:15.24 | Patrick` | ah. |
| 21:15.25 | paulswm | streuner: I missed it, joined just in time to hear the cha-ching of mentor cocking the shotgun :( |
| 21:15.26 | deadcat | Patrick`: hmm. let me search on my box |
| 21:15.27 | beardy | !beer mentor |
| 21:15.28 | SimonRaven | Patrick`: try linux-image if you're not on sarge |
| 21:15.32 | Patrick` | whoops. |
| 21:15.53 | deadcat | SimonRaven: when did that changed? |
| 21:15.55 | Patrick` | a change in the naming convention sounds a lot more feasible than all the debian developers keeling over |
| 21:15.56 | mentor | streuner: Are you trying to tell me something? ;) |
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| 21:16.14 | SimonRaven | deadcat: a while ago |
| 21:16.22 | streuner | paulswm: don't wanna rephrase that again... |
| 21:17.12 | ModBoyzz | deadcat, thx a ton |
| 21:17.27 | theD3viL | Wtf? In my home directory just found new directory "Mail" <- WTF? |
| 21:17.33 | streuner | mentor: his/her behavior don't let me come to another conclusion ;-) |
| 21:17.42 | deadcat | theD3viL: mutt created for you maybe? |
| 21:17.48 | Patrick` | deadcat: still only goes up to 2.4.27 |
| 21:17.55 | deadcat | let me seach it |
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| 21:18.02 | theD3viL | deadcat, mutt? |
| 21:18.25 | ModBoyzz | for some reason the apt-get install commmand aint workin for me... using DSL |
| 21:18.36 | theD3viL | deadcat, you tought mother? No.. |
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| 21:19.01 | beardy | ModBoyzz: Have you a correct/working sources.list |
| 21:19.03 | beardy | ? |
| 21:19.23 | deadcat | theD3viL: come again? |
| 21:19.45 | deadcat | Patrick`: hmm. i only have 2.4.27 as well. 2.6 i have .8, .11, and .12 |
| 21:20.01 | deadcat | SimonRaven: why are there still kernel-image then? |
| 21:20.03 | sminofice | beardy should i start with c++ or its impossible? |
| 21:20.07 | Patrick` | deadcat: indeed |
| 21:20.07 | ma3x | i didnt think it would be like this |
| 21:20.10 | Patrick` | most vexing |
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| 21:20.29 | ma3x | when you store files on your gmail local, it creates random stuff remotely |
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| 21:20.45 | ma3x | so actually if you want to download those files from your mail later, you can't |
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| 21:20.55 | beardy | sminofice: I really have no idea what you should start with, perhaps you have some friend that uses some language, start with the same, to learn from him/her. |
| 21:20.57 | theD3viL | deadcat, i delete it.. |
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| 21:21.34 | ModBoyzz | logout |
| 21:22.03 | green_earz | ModBoyzz: what apt-get update do ? |
| 21:22.12 | SimonRaven | deadcat: because |
| 21:22.25 | sminofice | ty beardy |
| 21:22.27 | beardy | sminofice: Can't say I've programmed much, but I guess python is a good start. |
| 21:22.27 | sminofice | =D |
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| 21:23.18 | sminofice | the problem is that i dont have any python books and its difficult to ready a documentation in english O_O |
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| 21:23.44 | sminofice | beardy the problem is that i dont have any python books and its difficult to ready a documentation in english O_O ----- I speak portuguese |
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| 21:23.51 | Patrick` | sminofice: python? |
| 21:24.02 | sminofice | yes |
| 21:24.10 | Patrick` | python is good to start learning with |
| 21:24.11 | beardy | sminofice: Google. http://diveintopython.org/ perhaps. |
| 21:24.18 | Patrick` | #python is a friendly place |
| 21:24.24 | Lotario | i've tryed with the bot, but nothing and update-pciids failed (host not found). wath can i do? |
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| 21:24.40 | Patrick` | I started out with a handful of shell script knowledge, and I did 3 weeks tinkering with python, |
| 21:24.43 | Patrick` | did me the world of good |
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| 21:24.53 | Patrick` | and one day I might actually release what I wrote |
| 21:24.56 | Patrick` | watch this space |
| 21:25.14 | jlj_ | sometimes xwindows thinks that a single mouse click is a double one here, is there any way to address this (except changing the mouse)? |
| 21:25.25 | crispynix-v6 | anyone know why nvidia-glx 7676 hasn't been packaged? |
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| 21:26.04 | deadcat | 7676? |
| 21:26.10 | beardy | jlj_: Dirty mouse, or two sensitive? |
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| 21:26.15 | beardy | too |
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| 21:28.00 | jlj_ | beardy: the mouse is quite new, but maybe not of the highest quality. I was hoping that there might be some minimum interval for a double click to set. |
| 21:28.14 | SimonRaven | or maybe it's the wrong protocol... |
| 21:28.28 | c01100011 | this is more a question for alsa but no-one(helpfull) is ever in thier channel How do i setup .asound rc to duplicate the front channel speakers to the rear for "fake" surround sound when listening to mp3s ? |
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| 21:28.53 | beardy | jlj_: There should be yes.. not sure where though.. perhaps you are using the wrong protocol, as SimonRaven said. |
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| 21:29.57 | ma3x | SimonRaven, ever used gmailfs? |
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| 21:30.39 | dumezil_ | anyone know how files on windows 2000 cdroms are compressed? can you uncompress them with linux? |
| 21:30.46 | SimonRaven | ma3x: no |
| 21:30.57 | Gathond | dumezil_: eehh compressed? |
| 21:31.06 | dumezil_ | there like cdrom.sy_ |
| 21:31.06 | beardy | dumezil_: what files? |
| 21:31.22 | Gathond | ahhh that way:) sorry, think it uses their .... sorry cant remember the name |
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| 21:31.32 | Gathond | same as windows 3.x used anyway :) |
| 21:31.39 | jlj_ | the protocol is ImPS/2, the mouse is usb (optical) |
| 21:31.43 | Gathond | inflate perhaps |
| 21:31.44 | beardy | Gathond: cab? |
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| 21:32.16 | dumezil_ | so any ideas? |
| 21:32.16 | Gathond | beardy: that is just the actual cabinet files right? each file is compressed as that something.ex_ thing |
| 21:32.24 | Gathond | dumezil_: inflate perhaps |
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| 21:32.43 | dumezil_ | and they ahve an expand.exe program that will do it on dos machines |
| 21:32.44 | beardy | Gathond: hmm, yeah.. |
| 21:32.47 | viper | ok I have a DAC960 controller with 4 scsi hdd`s (picked it out of a digital prioris server) .. now I plugged them into my 486 100mhz .. seemed to work fine .. but everytime when the scsi disks are running for a few minutes I get a kernel panic .. what could this be ??? I`m running woody on 2.6.10 (with adrian bunks packages) |
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| 21:33.03 | beardy | dumezil_: What does 'file somefile.foo' tell you? |
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| 21:33.28 | Gathond | viper: might not be enough power for the disks and the rest of the system |
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| 21:33.37 | dumezil_ | ohh snap |
| 21:33.40 | dumezil_ | its a cabinet file |
| 21:33.40 | Lotario | anyone know if the syskonnect chipset works only with kernel 2.6? |
| 21:33.45 | viper | Gathond enough power in cpu speed or in voltage ? |
| 21:33.45 | Gathond | viper: leading to strange errors as the power drops below specs |
| 21:33.46 | cadu | viper: use an external psu just for the hds? |
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| 21:33.58 | Gathond | viper: in the PSU |
| 21:34.05 | dumezil_ | beardy: thanks for the tip... i'd never used file before... |
| 21:34.15 | cadu | viper: use a 300W PSU for powering the HDs |
| 21:34.17 | viper | Gathond hmm how can I fix this .. and all internal power cords are the same ? |
| 21:34.24 | cadu | and leave the 486's psu just for mainboard/etc |
| 21:34.25 | viper | cadu ahh... :) |
| 21:34.30 | Gathond | viper: Guessing most 486 class desktop systems aind really meant for driving 4 SCSI disks |
| 21:34.35 | newbie_ | hi all.. just did a clean install of sarge and only added webserver package. Upon running apache2, I get this error "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.130 for ServerName (98) Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:90 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs" |
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| 21:34.53 | viper | Gathond that would eplain alot |
| 21:34.53 | Gathond | viper: you could find an old AT power supply for supplying the disks yes |
| 21:35.04 | newbie_ | (..that was supposed to be 0.0.0.0:80, not 90, oops) |
| 21:35.07 | Gathond | viper: it might not be it, but Its my suggestion |
| 21:35.26 | viper | Gathond well I could test it by using a single scsi drive |
| 21:35.34 | russo | did someone missed the cyrillic characters at Xterm? After installing XORG from testing? |
| 21:35.44 | beardy | dumezil_: np |
| 21:35.50 | beardy | !info cabextract sarge |
| 21:35.52 | dpkg | cabextract: (a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.1-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 144 kB |
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| 21:36.01 | cadu | russo: can you read russian? |
| 21:36.02 | viper | Gathond but if it`s the power .. is there any other way of fixing it .. another power suply makes it big and noisy :( |
| 21:36.02 | cadu | o_O |
| 21:36.07 | beardy | damn.. |
| 21:36.09 | Gathond | viper: getting a second PSU might be tricky though, or require hacking a ATX psu to think its attached to a main board |
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| 21:36.20 | Gathond | viper: larger powersupply is an option |
| 21:36.25 | russo | cadu: yes I can! but if i get the fonts =) |
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| 21:36.33 | cadu | russo: you're brazillian :) |
| 21:36.34 | Gathond | viper: although I think AT PSU's are hard to come by |
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| 21:36.39 | cadu | russo: nice :) |
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| 21:36.54 | cadu | russo: trotska polska for you : ) |
| 21:36.58 | russo | cadu: It is a good language to learn =) |
| 21:37.03 | deathz0r|Work | is there an apt-source i could use to get tcl8.4 8.4.9-1 ?? |
| 21:37.07 | russo | cadu: can you read it too? |
| 21:37.07 | cadu | russo: ehhehe, i learn finnish and japanese o_O :) |
| 21:37.08 | deathz0r|Work | for woody |
| 21:37.23 | cadu | russo: nah , don't know a single word of russian ;) |
| 21:37.32 | cvncvncvn | hello |
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| 21:37.54 | cvncvncvn | i have a little question.. is there some "dock app" for apps like gaim that have docks? |
| 21:38.04 | russo | cadu: nice, I have two friend that study Japanese too |
| 21:38.04 | cadu | cvncvncvn: trays? |
| 21:38.05 | S4nD3r | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.06 | S4nD3r | I did that |
| 21:38.08 | S4nD3r | but... |
| 21:38.09 | S4nD3r | nothing working |
| 21:38.12 | S4nD3r | help me |
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| 21:38.16 | drac | !tell deathz0r|Work about woody->sarge |
| 21:38.17 | cadu | russo: where are you from? Rio? |
| 21:38.29 | zaikxtox | yes cadu . |
| 21:38.31 | S4nD3r | I saw that one running in a friends house, It was fantastic |
| 21:38.34 | zaikxtox | tray icons |
| 21:38.44 | russo | cadu: I'm leaving in Curitiba now. Are you from Rio? |
| 21:38.57 | cadu | russo: hell yeah :) |
| 21:39.01 | zaikxtox | S4nD3r, i compiled eDR17 on debian sarge for amd64 |
| 21:39.04 | zaikxtox | yesterday |
| 21:39.05 | deathz0r|Work | drac thankz |
| 21:39.09 | zaikxtox | i'm using it now |
| 21:39.19 | zaikxtox | and... for intel on the office , today. |
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| 21:39.26 | zaikxtox | i recommend that :) |
| 21:39.28 | cadu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.41 | S4nD3r | eDR17 - whats it : |
| 21:40.03 | S4nD3r | my interrogation key doesnt work |
| 21:40.09 | zaikxtox | S4nD3r, Enlightenment DR17 |
| 21:40.10 | zaikxtox | :) |
| 21:40.18 | S4nD3r | Im running on gnome |
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| 21:40.37 | zaikxtox | oh... my god! i'm on the wrong channel. what the hell i did with my session? :D |
| 21:40.42 | zaikxtox | sorry S4nD3r |
| 21:40.46 | RobHu | Could someone please help me with some simple networking? I'm trying to help a friend who is trying to do some simulated routing experiments - we're using Xen but I don't think it's a Xen issue - if you look at http://rafb.net/paste/results/6fe4qg37.html I think there should be at least 2 hops in the traceroute but there isn't :| Would really appreciate some help :) |
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| 21:41.19 | S4nD3r | ok then |
| 21:41.21 | S4nD3r | Thanks |
| 21:41.23 | S4nD3r | Ive got go now |
| 21:41.29 | lord_rob | Hi ! How do I set time on my box ? |
| 21:41.51 | streuner | dpkg, set time |
| 21:41.51 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 21:41.52 | cadu | lord_rob: date |
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| 21:43.46 | RobHu | umm :) can anyone help please? |
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| 21:45.11 | asuffield | ugh, ntpdate |
| 21:45.31 | cadu | asuffield : works perfectly here |
| 21:45.39 | rutski89 | whats the min RAM required for deb? |
| 21:45.41 | mfrisch | I have purged logwatch but continue to get the emails How do I stop them?? |
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| 21:46.37 | asuffield | cadu: that doesn't mean it's maintained, or in any way not an ancient broken fork of ntp that is disavowed by the people responsible for it |
| 21:46.53 | RobHu | mfrisch: Is it still running? |
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| 21:47.08 | cadu | asuffield: but it works |
| 21:47.20 | cadu | asuffield: maybe it just hangs on some non-common setups |
| 21:47.21 | mfrisch | RobHu oviously...but it has been purged. |
| 21:47.30 | asuffield | cadu: no, it's just plain broken and pointless |
| 21:47.32 | Coweater | i just switched to xserver-xorg and when i do ctrl-alt-f1 it doesn't switch back to the terminal |
| 21:47.46 | asuffield | cadu: the only reason you don't notice is because you're starting ntpd immediately after and that fixes the clock |
| 21:47.48 | RobHu | mfrisch: You're *sure* it's not anywhere on your system, and isn't resident in memory? |
| 21:47.49 | beardy | rutski89: It's called Debian, if that's what you mean. |
| 21:48.57 | newbie_ | could somebody walk me through installing apache on a clean install of sarge? -- or provide a good HowTo link? |
| 21:48.57 | mentor | asuffield: Mind you the ntpd single run options doesn't work particularly well... |
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| 21:49.15 | asuffield | mentor: why even bother? just run ntpd normally |
| 21:49.15 | cadu | asuffield: i just use ntpdate :) |
| 21:49.20 | asuffield | cadu: then your clock is wrong |
| 21:49.29 | cadu | asuffield: absolutely not, really man :) |
| 21:49.31 | kisielk | hm |
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| 21:49.38 | asuffield | cadu: absolutely is, really |
| 21:49.39 | kisielk | does anyone know of any good web-based calendar software? |
| 21:49.46 | BobbyGrace | anyone know how to force a new page when writing code that's meant to be converted from sgml to pdf ? |
| 21:49.47 | cadu | asuffield: absolutely not, it's perfect |
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| 21:49.52 | lwizardl | hi |
| 21:49.57 | cadu | asuffield: isn't that marvelous? |
| 21:49.57 | beardy | rutski89: It's said in the installation manual. 16Mb I think is the absolute minimum for isntalling sarge (using the installer and not doing something special) |
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| 21:50.00 | cadu | asuffield: works for me! |
| 21:50.05 | mfrisch | RobHu is it run from init or cron? |
| 21:50.10 | mentor | asuffield: I seem to remember something about it running early in the boot process... |
| 21:50.15 | thingfish | newbie_: base config as root will at least get it installed for you. |
| 21:50.22 | cadu | mentor: just liked it's done on my box |
| 21:50.25 | lwizardl | how do i get to a drive that has a space in its name (using terminal) |
| 21:50.34 | RobHu | mfrisch: I have no idea - I'm just generating helpful ideas :P |
| 21:50.38 | c01100011 | kisielk - hula is nice |
| 21:50.44 | RobHu | mfrisch: try grep -r logwatch * in /etc |
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| 21:50.50 | valdyn | lwizardl: put whatever name in ' ' or " " |
| 21:50.51 | beardy | lwizardl: cd "ugly dir with spaces" |
| 21:50.51 | RobHu | mfrisch: and locate logwatch |
| 21:50.53 | asuffield | mentor: it doesn't. can't really, because it has to start after the network |
| 21:50.58 | mfrisch | RobHu and you are...will do |
| 21:51.05 | kisielk | c01100011: but you can't host that on a web host can you? |
| 21:51.07 | cadu | lwizardl: or cd ugly\ dir\ with\ spaces |
| 21:51.17 | RobHu | mfrisch: I haven't installed it myself so I don't know for certain |
| 21:51.43 | lwizardl | hmm still errors |
| 21:51.44 | RobHu | mfrisch: but /logically/ if it's not on the disk and not running in memory it can't send you emails :) So one of those conditions must currently not be true :) |
| 21:51.48 | c01100011 | kisielk - if you have access to mysql |
| 21:51.56 | Serpentwolf | hi, i just did netinstall base install, then setup my adsl, it connects, but i cant ping anything... routing i suppose, and how ? |
| 21:52.13 | SimonRaven | tabbing those dirs with spaces in the name is a bit saner.... |
| 21:52.17 | mfrisch | RobHu makes sense |
| 21:52.18 | valdyn | Serpentwolf: which driver for your nic are you using? |
| 21:52.23 | newbie_ | thingfish: it's installing apache2, right? |
| 21:52.24 | kisielk | c01100011: I thought it required its own application? |
| 21:52.29 | newbie_ | thingfish: is that okay? |
| 21:52.32 | lwizardl | my computer shows up and says "8.4G Hard Drive: 8.4G Media" |
| 21:52.45 | mfrisch | RobHu grep turn up nothing?!? |
| 21:52.51 | lwizardl | do i need to place all that in it |
| 21:52.52 | lwizardl | ? |
| 21:52.55 | RobHu | mfrisch: hmmmmmm |
| 21:53.11 | Serpentwolf | valdyn ill ahve to check, i just went with what it automatically dide. |
| 21:53.16 | valdyn | Serpentwolf: there should be nothing more to setup from your host that is dialing in. |
| 21:53.21 | RobHu | mfrisch: So... you're receiving logwatch reports from this box - but log watch isnt installed, nor is it mentionned in /etc ? |
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| 21:53.45 | valdyn | Serpentwolf: how did you setup your adsl? |
| 21:53.50 | lwizardl | how do i in terminal list all my drives? |
| 21:54.02 | Seb | I have 1 CUPS server, with 2 smb printers using the same PPD (they are the same exact xerox model) |
| 21:54.03 | mfrisch | RobHu I have used it for awhile but it is sending 30+ a day, yes. |
| 21:54.08 | beardy | !tell lwizardl about reference |
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| 21:54.14 | newbie_ | thingfish: i'm not used to apache2, just 1.3 -- are there any tricks I should know about? |
| 21:54.19 | floyd_n_milan | blah i just installed Debain from the netinstall CD and the system just doesn't want to boot. I installed Debian's grub in /dev/hdd and it fails to recognise the ext3 partition, which is somehow seen by it as 8e (LVM). Gentoo's grub, installed on /dev/hda boots the Debian system, but i get a kernel panic with no /dev/console found! |
| 21:54.27 | Seb | when using lpr -Pprinter1 foo.pdf, I get duplex, but not when using lpr -Pprinter2 foo.pdf. How come ? |
| 21:54.29 | thingfish | newbie_: if you want apache2, do apt-get install apache2 |
| 21:54.50 | Seb | is there a separate setting for each printer, buried somehwere, that lpr would use ? |
| 21:54.52 | thingfish | newbie_: anything more than installing it, you'll have to ask someone else. |
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| 21:55.05 | Gathond | Seb: iirc cups supports having per printer default options, or perhaps the print server has different defaults for the 2 printers |
| 21:55.07 | floyd_n_milan | what the hell am i suppose to do to get debian working for me? |
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| 21:55.21 | Seb | Gathond: well they have the same exact PPD file though |
| 21:55.22 | Gathond | floyd_n_milan: sacrifice a chicken :) |
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| 21:55.27 | pure2 | lol |
| 21:55.28 | newbie_ | thingfish: okay |
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| 21:55.46 | Gathond | Seb: the PPD file has nothing to do with the settings, it descripes the capabilities of the printer |
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| 21:55.49 | valdyn | floyd_n_milan: you forget about the initrd in your gentoo's grub? |
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| 21:56.01 | Seb | Gathond: then where would those "print server" settings live ? |
| 21:56.02 | floyd_n_milan | valdyn, no i don't |
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| 21:56.17 | Gathond | Seb: cups configuration is perfectly capable of having one printer doint Color per default and one doing Black despite it being the same printer |
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| 21:56.38 | Seb | Gathond: I mean, when using lpr (which comes with cupsys-bsd), I'm pretty much talking directly to CUPS, so where is the difference coming from ? |
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| 21:56.41 | RobHu | mfrisch: I'm really not sure ... what does locate logwatch come up with (use rafb.net/paste if you need to) |
| 21:56.44 | Gathond | Seb: in hte CUPS web interface under printer administration somewhere (at least that is where my HP's settings can be changed) |
| 21:56.44 | salimi | hi |
| 21:56.45 | lord_rob | I've just run /etc/init.d/ntpdate start, the minutes are ok but it's 23:56 and not 9:56 here. My timezone is correctly configured as europe/brussels. Any idea what could cause the problem ? |
| 21:56.56 | Seb | Gathond: hmm, ok |
| 21:57.01 | floyd_n_milan | Gathond, it's been over a year and i still can't get Debian working... what with not being able to download the cds to cracked cds and now this! all other distros work fine! even the Debian based elive cd doesn't boot when installed to the hard disk! |
| 21:57.06 | cadu | !ntpdate |
| 21:57.06 | dpkg | i guess ntpdate is a program that sets a system's clock using one of more NTP-servers. It's useful for setting the time occasionally (like on boot or connecting to internet). ask me about ntp |
| 21:57.13 | Gathond | Seb: from the CUPS printer server being able to have DIFFERENT configurations of the default parameters for any given printer |
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| 21:57.29 | Gathond | Seb: for one I use it to have 2 printers, one defaulting to BW one color |
| 21:58.06 | Gathond | since I find lp -PColor easier than lp -o somethingaboutnotprintingcolorasbw=1 :) |
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| 21:58.29 | asuffield | dpkg: ntpdate =~ s/$/. Instead of using this obsolete and unmaintained program, just run ntp-server, and add the 'iburst' option to the 'server' lines in ntp.conf./ |
| 21:58.29 | dpkg | that doesn't contain '$', asuffield |
| 21:58.42 | asuffield | who's the smartarse who broke the qr? |
| 21:58.46 | Seb | Gathond: hmm, so CUPS web interface -> pick pmy printer -> configure printer --> I get a nice "server-error-device-error" :( |
| 21:58.48 | asuffield | dpkg: ntpdate =~ s/about ntp/about ntp. Instead of using this obsolete and unmaintained program, just run ntp-server, and add the 'iburst' option to the 'server' lines in ntp.conf./ |
| 21:58.49 | dpkg | OK, asuffield |
| 21:59.08 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: not that this will necessarily help -- but can you post the debian generated menu.lst as well as the gentoo menu.lst that you use to boot into the system somewhere? |
| 21:59.34 | mfrisch | RobHu nothing...but...I deleted the last messages. I do not know either its is defenatly weird all around. |
| 21:59.34 | Gathond | Seb: well, fix that hten :) |
| 21:59.37 | Ungy | is there a graphical tool that can make zip files |
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| 21:59.51 | Seb | Gathond: sheesh, I wish I could :) |
| 22:00.11 | streuner | Ungy: look at man zip - there are examples... |
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| 22:00.16 | RobHu | mfrisch: What do you mean you deleted the last messages? |
| 22:00.24 | RobHu | mfrisch: try running updatedb before locate |
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| 22:01.06 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, i don't have the debian entry in my gentoo menu.lst... i noted down the kernel from Debian's grub and using grub's command line booted the Debain system. The same thing on Debian's grub doesn't work! actually debian's grub refuses to boot ANY of the installed and detected systems... viz, Gentoo, FC4 |
| 22:01.08 | Seb | Gathond: my reasoning was that somehow that sort of configuration should be in /etc/cups, but I can't find it in there either :( |
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| 22:01.17 | levak | hello |
| 22:01.44 | mfrisch | RobHu .... |
| 22:01.50 | Gathond | Seb: it might be :) always just used links and the web frontend |
| 22:01.53 | Ungy | floyd you have multiple grubs installed? |
| 22:01.54 | SimonRaven | asuffield: been borked for a while. also bot addressing char + '->' is borked |
| 22:01.54 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: I'm wondering if there are some options that you're missing, when booting from the command line |
| 22:01.55 | RobHu | mfrisch: mmmyeah? :) |
| 22:02.04 | beardy | !info file-roller sarge |
| 22:02.08 | dpkg | file-roller: (an archive manager for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.4-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 1066 kB, Installed size: 4316 kB |
| 22:02.09 | beardy | Ungy: ^^ |
| 22:02.28 | valdyn | floyd_n_milan: how are you 'switching' between those grubs? |
| 22:02.31 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: as far as the debian-installed grub not working, it's probably solvable [but probably not necessary to fix your particular problem] |
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| 22:02.41 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, not possible, i noted down the entries in debian's menu.lst (automatically generated by debian installer) |
| 22:03.20 | floyd_n_milan | gentoo's grub is on /dev/hda and debian's, along with the debian root on /dev/hdd |
| 22:03.20 | asuffield | SimonRaven: sloppy qring is almost enough for me to pull the damned code out again and slap it around a bit |
| 22:03.32 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: can you post those two menu.lst files somewhere then? |
| 22:03.32 | nvz | heh |
| 22:03.34 | floyd_n_milan | in other words, (hd0) and (hd2) |
| 22:03.45 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, ok pastebin... |
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| 22:03.56 | whitehorse1 | hi |
| 22:04.19 | nvz | !slap asuffield |
| 22:04.32 | nvz | thats what you get for thinking about slapping her code |
| 22:04.45 | SimonRaven | asuffield: heh, be nice. you could always commit to the cvs |
| 22:04.56 | asuffield | I don't do cvs |
| 22:05.51 | whitehorse1 | I uhm installed some new packages..and broke my machine in doing so. Help? (packages included x-server elements, 'broke' means my mouse no longer works/is-detected). I only have keyboard access in kde now. Not sure what to edit/how to fix |
| 22:06.02 | streuner | nvz: Who's code is that? |
| 22:06.08 | mfrisch | RobHu nothing? |
| 22:06.17 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 22:06.17 | Ungy | whitehorse1, stop using sid |
| 22:06.22 | nvz | streuner: I thought they were talking about the blootbot code |
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| 22:06.28 | whitehorse1 | Ungy: Never have. |
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| 22:06.35 | RobHu | mfrisch: That my friend is a mystery :) If it doesnt exist on disk or in etc how can it run? |
| 22:06.38 | levak | anyone here using 2.6.13 with intel BG2200 wireless? I cant get module to load the firmware |
| 22:06.41 | RobHu | mfrisch: Unless it runs under a different name |
| 22:06.52 | streuner | nvz: ah, that make sense then |
| 22:06.59 | valdyn | whitehorse1: uname -r |
| 22:07.01 | whitehorse1 | Ungy: I'm using Sarge; albeit possibly with some etch updates on particular apps. |
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| 22:07.22 | EfaistOs | does someone have a webcam logitech quickcam communicate plus which works under debian ? |
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| 22:07.47 | whitehorse1 | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 22:07.54 | mfrisch | RobHu unless harden has something to do with it. |
| 22:08.02 | Ungy | whitehorse1, sorry I foget the actaul reconfigure comman dit is something like dpkg --reconfigure xserver |
| 22:08.10 | RobHu | mfrisch: whats harden? |
| 22:08.45 | valdyn | whitehorse1: hows your mouse connected? usb? |
| 22:08.49 | streuner | !harden |
| 22:08.50 | dpkg | hmm... harden is D:SbD, or http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/, or read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 22:08.52 | whitehorse1 | typing that now. the problem is though, I'm too clueless to know what to type in fr the mouse part. it's a ps/2 mouse plugged in the back. well, I know whatever is in there is wrong at least I guess. |
| 22:09.00 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: ps/2 |
| 22:09.14 | mfrisch | RobHu adds some programs and removes others. |
| 22:09.19 | valdyn | whitehorse1: ls /dev/psaux and lsmod | grep psmouse |
| 22:09.36 | whitehorse1 | ooh ok i'll try that instead. ty |
| 22:09.42 | newbie_ | thingfish: i'm not used to apache2, just 1.3 -- are there any tricks I should know about? |
| 22:10.02 | RobHu | mfrisch: I'm sorry - I think you've exhausted my ideas :S |
| 22:10.07 | RobHu | mfrisch: I know only a little |
| 22:10.08 | Ungy | newbie_, a2ensite a2enmod a2dissite a2dismod |
| 22:10.33 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: the first command returned /dev/psaux and the second (lsm..) didn't return anything |
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| 22:10.49 | valdyn | !psmouse |
| 22:10.55 | mfrisch | RobHu you have been a great help...Sometimes security is not worth the results. |
| 22:11.06 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, http://pastebin.com/358422 |
| 22:11.16 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: one moment |
| 22:11.17 | RobHu | mfrisch: logwatch is a good thing, we use it at work |
| 22:11.22 | newbie_ | ungy.. wassat? |
| 22:11.23 | RobHu | mfrisch: Also tripwire |
| 22:11.34 | Ungy | dpkg is completely ignoring me I keep messaging it and nothing |
| 22:11.44 | Ungy | newbie_ commands you should learn |
| 22:12.04 | newbie_ | ungy: oh.. have you had any problems installing apache2/running? |
| 22:12.17 | Ungy | newbie_, no |
| 22:12.17 | newbie_ | i've just remove/purged it and am getting errors each time I install. |
| 22:12.27 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, forget about booting other systems, just make it boot my Debian somehow! |
| 22:12.35 | mfrisch | RobHu got tripwire aide snort shorewall, logwatch usually only sent me good results not everything GIGO |
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| 22:13.19 | valdyn | whitehorse1: i cant recall which module drives /dev/psaux, however, just run 'cat /dev/psaux' and whiggle your mouse around |
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| 22:13.33 | whitehorse1 | i'll give it a go :) |
| 22:13.34 | Ungy | newbie_, getting errors isn't very specific |
| 22:13.44 | flankk | I am trying to get sound working on an old ISA integrated chipset. I have isapnptools and the output of 'pnpdump' is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2023 but I don't know where to go from here. |
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| 22:14.10 | whitehorse1 | bash: cat/dev/psaux: no such file or directory |
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| 22:14.13 | Ungy | flankk, you on ubuntu or Debian |
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| 22:14.29 | newbie_ | ungy: sorry.. I know. now that the system's clean, what's the best way to get Apache on here and configured properly? |
| 22:14.39 | flankk | Ungy, I am on Ubuntu, the problem is on a Debian system, which I have ssh access to.. |
| 22:14.46 | valdyn | whitehorse1: 'cat /dev/psaux' <- note the space after 'cat' |
| 22:14.46 | Ungy | newbie_ apt-get install apache2 |
| 22:15.13 | newbie_ | should I include anything else to get mysql/php config'd properly? |
| 22:15.25 | Ungy | newbie ok one second |
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| 22:15.53 | newbie_ | ungy: okay, thanks. |
| 22:16.01 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: ah ok that did something. i had to ctrl-c out of it though it didn't display anything; I moved the mouse arnd a lot whilst it was running. |
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| 22:16.19 | foo | What program would you guys recommend to manage my different wireless connections I use? |
| 22:16.29 | Ungy | newbie_, apt-get install apache2 php4 libapache2-mod-php4 php4-common php4-mysql |
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| 22:16.38 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: ok -- grub per-se is obviously working on your (hd0) -- something not quite right as the kernel boots up. Is the /dev/console the first error? I can't quite remember anymore -- it should attempt to mount the root device before this I think -- is it able to mount /dev/hdd6 as it boots up? |
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| 22:16.48 | DMJC | is there a page with hardware reqs for debian?> |
| 22:16.52 | valdyn | whitehorse1: lots of senseless characters should appear, if that didnt happen, and you got no error, then your mouse is probably not plugged in. |
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| 22:17.11 | phogg | DMJC: imagine a really old,slow machine. No, older. Slower. It will STILL run Debian |
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| 22:17.21 | DMJC | a 286 |
| 22:17.23 | DMJC | hehehehe |
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| 22:17.33 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, afaik, /dev/console is the first error, though just before that it says something about /dev/hda1 being some weird format |
| 22:17.36 | newbie_ | ungy: okay.. here goes nothin. |
| 22:17.36 | DMJC | hmm |
| 22:17.36 | Maulkin | DMJC: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02.html.en for i386 |
| 22:17.36 | whitehorse1 | Should I do that dpkg --reconfigure command? (what was the program to reconfigure?). Oh the mouse is defeinitely plugged in. :) D'you think it's the numeric keypad's mouse-arrow facility interfering? |
| 22:17.38 | phogg | DMJC: Linux has a hard time on pre-386 |
| 22:17.43 | Ungy | whitehorse1, or hard drive failure |
| 22:17.45 | floyd_n_milan | i don't know how /dev/hda1 matters during booting! |
| 22:17.48 | yer | " NO FONT WAS FOUND Name["Sans"] " |
| 22:17.48 | DMJC | I know heh |
| 22:17.50 | yer | help? |
| 22:17.53 | Ungy | whitehorse1, I mean hardware failure |
| 22:17.53 | DMJC | just poking fun |
| 22:18.00 | yer | firefox gives me that in the console |
| 22:18.05 | yer | when i try to print |
| 22:18.14 | DMJC | I have an install report thing that I have to get done |
| 22:18.15 | yer | :( |
| 22:18.23 | valdyn | whitehorse1: certainly not, you're having a hardware failure or a serious pebkac |
| 22:18.25 | newbie_ | ungy: thanks.. i'll let you know how this goes. |
| 22:19.01 | Ungy | yer well maybe you should set a deifferent deafult font |
| 22:19.01 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: might be worth investigating that more closely, as well as adding the debian kernel stanza into the gentoo menu.lst -- if only to make sure nothing is missed |
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| 22:19.01 | yer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.01 | yer | lp: unable to print file: client-error-bad-request |
| 22:19.01 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: I'm assuming you run the initrd command before launching the kernel line (from the grub command-line) |
| 22:19.07 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, ok i'll edit gentoo's menu.lst |
| 22:19.10 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, yes i do |
| 22:19.14 | yer | Ungy, i tried that |
| 22:19.28 | yer | Ungy, whatever font i set it to, says it cant find |
| 22:19.44 | Ungy | yer well I guess your fonts are messed up |
| 22:20.00 | yer | Ungy, but everything is fine in other applications |
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| 22:20.29 | Ungy | yer maybe it's a bug with firefox what version you have |
| 22:20.41 | whitehorse1 | I don't think it's a hardware failure? Admittedly I don't know what I did to break it,, it worked half an hour ago before I installed updates in synaptic p manager. One of the updates was asking if I wanted to install the package maintainers version of the x-something config files, it asked me if it was a ps/2 mouse and chose ps/2auto IIRC - seemed logical. that's when the mouse stopped working. ie how i broke things :-/ |
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| 22:20.51 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: hm. Best work from the first weird message then -- whatever it is, it doesn't look like a grub issue atleast, so can eliminate that from the list of problems |
| 22:20.51 | yer | 1.0.4 |
| 22:21.02 | yer | it only happens on my debian boxes |
| 22:21.07 | sombra | how can I do: echo "x" if variable_x_does_not_exist |
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| 22:21.15 | Ungy | yer I dunno then but I gotta go good luck man |
| 22:21.20 | valdyn | whitehorse1: that stuff has nothing to do with /dev/psaux functioning. |
| 22:21.29 | yer | Ungy, thanks for trying |
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| 22:21.33 | yer | :) |
| 22:21.33 | newbie_ | Ungy: gotta sec? getting errors and want to print to you. |
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| 22:21.59 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, ok, but i guess it'll be tomorrow for me... i don't want to reboot the system now :/ will you be here after about 20 hours? |
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| 22:22.16 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: hmm okay, but it's v coincidental when it happened yes? the pc's a dual-booting machine so I presume i could check in winxp if the mouse is fine to make sure. |
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| 22:22.42 | newbie_ | ungy: on running apache2 from init.d: "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.130 for ServerName (98) Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:90 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs" |
| 22:22.50 | valdyn | whitehorse1: yea |
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| 22:23.10 | whitehorse1 | should i try that dpkg reconfigure thing first? |
| 22:23.13 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: heh. well -- dunno. But should be other people awake to toss random ideas at you anyway ;-) |
| 22:23.21 | Gathond | newbie_: something else probably already listens to port 90, are you sure its not alreaddy running? |
| 22:23.28 | beardy | DMJC: /msg dpkg elks, or perhaps minix? |
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| 22:23.31 | whitehorse1 | (& hope it autodetects the mouse better this time; if thats the prob) |
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| 22:23.32 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, lol ok and thanks |
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| 22:23.34 | newbie_ | Gathond: oops... I meant to type "80" |
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| 22:23.40 | valdyn | whitehorse1: you can, but if /dev/psaux doesnt spit out stuff then that won't fix that. |
| 22:23.44 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: would look basically to make sure your root device got mounted properly, then for any devfs related issues |
| 22:23.50 | DMJC | n/m got my iunfo I need |
| 22:23.51 | whitehorse1 | hmm ok |
| 22:23.54 | DMJC | info |
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| 22:24.01 | whitehorse1 | i'll reboot |
| 22:24.04 | whitehorse1 | ty |
| 22:24.05 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, i doubt it gets mounted properly |
| 22:24.09 | Gathond | newbie_: same applies |
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| 22:24.29 | sbk | floyd_n_milan: ah, ok. Then it probably must be related to the initrd not getting loaded properly |
| 22:24.44 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, possible, but why should that happen? |
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| 22:25.04 | newbie_ | Gathond/Ungy: why is there so little in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf ?? not used to this, since apache1.3 had all directives. |
| 22:25.19 | floyd_n_milan | sbk, surely, i can't mess up 4 installations in a row! |
| 22:25.21 | foo | E: Couldn't find package wlassistant |
| 22:25.24 | foo | Isn't that a package? Weird |
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| 22:25.55 | newbie_ | Gathond/Ungy: I'd like to config all that stuff (ie: servername, port, listen...) but it's not in the apache2/httpd.conf file, like it was with 1.3 |
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| 22:26.10 | Gathond | newbie_: because its in apache.conf instead |
| 22:26.15 | pure2 | newbie_ its in apache2.conf |
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| 22:27.22 | newbie_ | pure2: wow.. completely different than apache1.3, isn't it? so I can set this stuff in apache2.conf, right> |
| 22:27.24 | zmagic | meppl sux |
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| 22:27.37 | azeem | zmagic: I don't know meppl |
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| 22:27.41 | pure2 | and in sites_enabled folder |
| 22:27.44 | Annirak | I created 4 new serial ports with setserial. Two of them (ttyS2 and ttyS3) came up as group:dialup, crw-rw-r--, which is what I want, but two (ttyS4 & 5) came up as group:root, crw-r--r--, which causes problems. How do I change the group and permissions of ttyS4 and 5? |
| 22:27.45 | zmagic | azeem: you do |
| 22:27.57 | zmagic | azeem: you told him to stop greeting everybody |
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| 22:28.20 | zmagic | azeem: wha? |
| 22:28.24 | zmagic | azeem: d'uh. didn't know that |
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| 22:28.29 | valdyn | !wikifaq Annirak Permissions |
| 22:28.30 | dpkg | Annirak: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 22:29.01 | Annirak | valdyn I know how to use chmod, I'm talking about device permissions. |
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| 22:29.34 | Annirak | valdyn they need to not be reset on reboot |
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| 22:30.02 | whitehorse1 | ah in at last. |
| 22:30.13 | valdyn | Annirak: so you're talking about udev i guess, /etc/udev/<something> |
| 22:30.28 | newbie_ | Gathond/Pure2/Ungy: where do I set the servername for apache2? |
| 22:30.35 | valdyn | Annirak: /etc/udev/permissions.d/ |
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| 22:31.39 | Annirak | valdyn that directory doesn't exist on my debian system. |
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| 22:31.41 | pure2 | sites-enabled folder |
| 22:31.51 | pure2 | from what i remember |
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| 22:32.12 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: thank you for assisting earlier. i'm back after the quick reboot, my mouse works absolutely fine @ the winxp login screen so the hardware's ok. rebooting and going into debian now via the grub menu i did see one message about not being able to load a psmouse module; there may've been more, it does scroll quite quickly. either way, the mouse is inactive in kde and at the kdm login screen too |
| 22:32.12 | valdyn | Annirak: /etc/udev/permissions.rules probably |
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| 22:32.33 | Annirak | valdyn, I'm running a 2.4 kernel. As near as I can tell, I don't have udev |
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| 22:32.58 | valdyn | Annirak: then device files are not recreated on reboot |
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| 22:33.23 | newbie_ | pure2: that folder is empty! |
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| 22:33.58 | Annirak | valdyn but chmod doesn't work on them either |
| 22:34.04 | valdyn | whitehorse1: run 'dmesg', look for an error related to that |
| 22:34.11 | valdyn | Annirak: chmod does work on device files |
| 22:34.14 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: ok thanks |
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| 22:34.57 | ericP | sound question: i have a 82801DB sound chip and am using a snd_intel8x0 driver. according to aumix, i have a pcm and a pcm2. i'd like to get xmms to play i pcm2. any pointers? |
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| 22:35.35 | pure2 | ok copy some of the conf from /etc/apache/httpd.conf into /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, ie the ServerName blah etc etc |
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| 22:35.46 | ericP | (i'm assuming that if i get xmms playing on pcm2, that will leave pcm available) |
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| 22:35.56 | Annirak | valdyn see #flood |
| 22:35.59 | valdyn | ericP: you configure xmms to use alsa and set hw:1,0 as device |
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| 22:36.44 | ericP | valdyn, thanks kindly. do i need to load snd_intel8x0 twice or any other module trickery? |
| 22:36.44 | kev_ | i'm using the pppoe package for my net connection. on occasion when the connection drops it is not being reestablished. any hints on having it auto-reconnect? |
| 22:36.55 | ma3x | why the hell gam_server launches randomly, and waste %70 of my cpu? |
| 22:36.59 | bsims | question I am loading DRI in my xorg.conf do I also need to turn on accell? RENDER is loaded and glxinfo says its direct rendering |
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| 22:37.16 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: nothing related to mice, sadly. |
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| 22:37.33 | valdyn | whitehorse1: uname -r |
| 22:37.46 | ericP | valdyn, i was still using OSS, but i guess i should install the ALSA stuff now |
| 22:37.56 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: uname = 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 22:38.05 | valdyn | ericP: snd_intel8x0 is an alsa module, so you're using alsa |
| 22:38.09 | newbie_ | pure2: the only thing in my /etc/apache/ folder is conf.d. There is no httpd.conf file. |
| 22:38.27 | ma3x | !find gam_server |
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| 22:38.35 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gam_server' (1): (/usr/lib/gamin/gam_server) in admin/gamin. |
| 22:38.36 | valdyn | whitehorse1: theres no psmouse module for that kernel.. |
| 22:38.41 | newbie_ | pure2: I've never had apache1.3 on this system, just installed apache2, per ungy's instruction. |
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| 22:39.42 | ma3x | agoo goo |
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| 22:40.08 | valdyn | !bootlog |
| 22:40.09 | dpkg | /etc/default/bootlogd now defaults to "no". Edit that to get your /var/log/boot file back. For more info, see bugs.debian.org/213028, or not a command (opposed to dmesg) |
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| 22:40.15 | ma3x | what is 8205 ma3x 25 0 3408 2072 872 R 73.8 0.2 112:57.20 gam_server |
| 22:40.19 | jNoobie | a |
| 22:40.22 | valdyn | whitehorse1: read ^^^ or just hit your scroll lock key when booting to see that error |
| 22:40.26 | bsims | !xorg |
| 22:40.26 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg is X.Org X11, implementation of the X Window System, code from XFree86 4.4RC2 plus many improvements. The current release is X11R6.8.2. See http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/svn/xfree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#debianplans for info. Now in unstable. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/07/msg00683.html, or see <get xorg> |
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| 22:40.45 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: humph, ok. well, it did work forty minutes ago (the mouse in kde i mean), prior to my saying 'yes' to replace config file with package maintainer's version whilst installing the upgrades to xserver/of/xorg/kdm or whathaveyou; and responding yes to having a ps2 mouse. ok, i'll try doing that, thank you. |
| 22:41.11 | cat | what packaged should i download to run an ftp server on my machine? |
| 22:41.16 | valdyn | whitehorse1: you must have done something else too. i cant tell what. |
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| 22:41.33 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: ok |
| 22:41.38 | bsims | cat: if you need to ask you probably shouldn't be running an FTP server <g> |
| 22:41.40 | Annirak | cat vsftp |
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| 22:42.01 | jNoobie | This is not entirely on-topic, but can anyone tell me a program I can use to tunnel any connection my laptop makes from school, through ssh to my home computer, and then to wherever it was going in the first place? (concealing everything I do from anyone listening on the school's wireless network) |
| 22:42.09 | cat | i already have it Annirak |
| 22:42.14 | jNoobie | (yes, my home computer runs debian) |
| 22:42.14 | cat | but my ftp doesn't work |
| 22:42.23 | cat | Connected to 201.238.231.152:21 |
| 22:42.23 | cat | Disconnecting from site 201.238.231.152 |
| 22:42.24 | cat | Waiting 30 seconds until trying to connect again |
| 22:42.27 | petemc | jNoobie: squid |
| 22:42.39 | Silicon | anyone got any ideas why if I use iftop or jnettop that it kills all and any network connections until i quit the programs? |
| 22:42.39 | Annirak | cat then it's a config problem |
| 22:42.50 | cat | Annirak: where can i configured the ftp? |
| 22:43.05 | Annirak | cat /etc/ftpd.conf I think |
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| 22:43.44 | kev_ | anyone know if pppoe supports auto-reconnecting? |
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| 22:44.06 | valdyn | jNoobie: you can use localhost as proxy on your school box ( to set in yoru webbrowser ) and tunnel all traffic to that port to your home box's squid ( proxy server ) |
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| 22:44.53 | jNoobie | valdyn: but what about all other traffic? like if I was, for instance, playing a game, using ftp... I'd want everything to go through my home box |
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| 22:45.45 | valdyn | !tun |
| 22:45.46 | dpkg | i heard tun is sudo mkdir /dev/net && sudo mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200 |
| 22:46.29 | werw | Hi! Is there a safe way to switch between gcc versions? |
| 22:46.36 | bsims | Question I am loading DRI in my xorg.conf do I also need to turn on accell? RENDER is loaded and glxinfo says its direct rendering... |
| 22:46.37 | Annirak | jNoobie sounds like you're looking for something like IPSec. Try looking at OpenSwan |
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| 22:46.51 | cat | Annirak: is not working |
| 22:47.27 | Annirak | cat sorry, it's vsftpd.conf |
| 22:47.29 | newbie_ | having apache2 config problems.. where can I setup servername? |
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| 22:48.40 | Annirak | cat: $man vsftpd.conf |
| 22:49.54 | cat | bash: vsftpd.conf: command not found |
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| 22:50.46 | Annirak | car: you forgot the man. |
| 22:51.04 | petemc | cat: lose the $, but even better, usr/share/doc/<package name> |
| 22:51.32 | toad_ | recommendations for a NAT/firewalling setup util? I used to use ipmasq, but maybe there's something better? |
| 22:51.46 | cat | is there any packaged to get so i can just run the ftp server and don't have to configured anything? |
| 22:51.53 | CaT[tm] | toad: iptables works fine |
| 22:52.03 | bsims | toad_: smoothwall is a good distro to make your own nat with |
| 22:52.09 | Annirak | cat: you always have to configure something |
| 22:52.13 | toad_ | bsims: i mean within debian |
| 22:52.26 | cat | well not always |
| 22:52.46 | newbie_ | having apache2 config problems.. where can I setup servername? |
| 22:52.49 | asuffield | toad_: shorewall, then |
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| 22:53.16 | bsims | cat: again if you are unwilling/unable to configure a publicaly accessable ftp server you shouldn't be running one... Owned boxes are bad news |
| 22:53.18 | toad_ | ipmasq seemed workable but was rather klunky perhaps |
| 22:53.36 | asuffield | shorewall is the 'obvious' layer of thin automation over iptables |
| 22:53.45 | Annirak | cat: can you use secureftp through ssh instead? |
| 22:53.53 | js_ | what happens when i boot and it says "uncompressing linux"? |
| 22:54.14 | Paganist | humm |
| 22:54.18 | Paganist | someone is hacking me |
| 22:54.19 | MikkelK | How do i force an unmount of a busy device? |
| 22:54.33 | Paganist | how to force a user to logout ? i am root |
| 22:54.40 | asuffield | MikkelK: you probably can't |
| 22:54.51 | asuffield | MikkelK: find the thing that's making it busy and kill it |
| 22:55.01 | MikkelK | asuffield, and how do i do that? |
| 22:55.02 | Paganist | i want to logout the user and kill all it's processes |
| 22:55.12 | asuffield | MikkelK: lsof, then kill. probably. |
| 22:55.15 | sward | js_: Exactly that, the kernel image is stored compressed, it needs to be uncompressed first |
| 22:55.30 | asuffield | MikkelK: unless it's busy for weird kernel stuff in which case you get to have fun |
| 22:56.49 | MikkelK | asuffield, lsof didn't tell me anything i could use... A reboot will do the trick, but it's just not that fun |
| 22:57.21 | asuffield | if lsof can't find it then it's something weird, and you'll just have to remember what you did to make it busy |
| 22:57.21 | CaT[tm] | mikkel |
| 22:57.27 | CaT[tm] | mikkel: nm. |
| 22:57.28 | asuffield | and then undo that |
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| 22:58.02 | Paganist | how can i disconnect a user please ? |
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| 22:58.09 | Paganist | I'm beeing hacked right now... |
| 22:58.19 | Paganist | just would like to d/c him for now.. |
| 22:58.22 | thingfish | Could an op do me a favor please and see if a SilentLucidity or usernameDeb02 is banned? Thanks in advance. |
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| 22:58.26 | beardy | Paganist: Take down your network. |
| 22:58.34 | azeem | thingfish: /ban |
| 22:58.42 | thingfish | hey thanks, azeem. |
| 22:58.43 | Paganist | beardy: no, there's an other way |
| 22:58.50 | beardy | Paganist: kill -HUP his shell |
| 22:59.02 | asuffield | axe in the power supply |
| 22:59.09 | beardy | Paganist: Then disable the user. |
| 22:59.10 | thingfish | azeem: That command doesn't work on this protocol. |
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| 22:59.42 | Paganist | beardy: how can i know what is his shell ? |
| 23:00.46 | jNoobie | I think what I really need is VPN... What VPN server should I use? I've never set one up before. I found two in the apt-cache. OpenVPN and secvpn. Is secvpn a lot more secure? |
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| 23:02.57 | SuperSox | hey, I'm having a problem trying to install debian from a floppy - I have a Toshiba Portege 3010CT, and the installer fails when it trys to detect the cdrom drive (it identifies it correctly then hangs) anyone got any suggestions? :S |
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| 23:03.44 | mentor | SuperSox: Try the 2.6 kernel? |
| 23:04.01 | Annirak | jNoobie: I mentioned before: what you need is IPSec, have a look at OpenSwan |
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| 23:04.11 | SuperSox | mentor: uhmm... how would I do that? is there a floppy image with the 2.6 kernel on it? |
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| 23:04.48 | cusco | SuperSox: on the installer prompt type linux26 |
| 23:04.49 | mentor | hmmm. I haven't looked at the floppies for a while. |
| 23:04.55 | cusco | oh |
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| 23:05.05 | cusco | forget it |
| 23:05.05 | mentor | SuperSox: On the CD you can type '26' at the boot prompt |
| 23:05.06 | cusco | lol |
| 23:05.16 | SuperSox | mentor: I can't boot from cdrom ;) |
| 23:05.17 | Annirak | SuperSox apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.xxxxxxx && apt-get upgrade? |
| 23:05.30 | SuperSox | Annirak: great if I had a working debian install... |
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| 23:05.32 | mentor | SuperSox: :( |
| 23:05.41 | SuperSox | mentor: yeah I know, it's a complete pain |
| 23:05.43 | mentor | SuperSox: Which floppies are you using? |
| 23:05.53 | Annirak | SuperSox :( |
| 23:05.55 | SuperSox | mentor: I just burned off the ones from the Sarge installer cdrom |
| 23:06.40 | SuperSox | it's a pain as well, suddenly worried that the wireless card won't work either :| |
| 23:06.42 | beardy | Paganist: 'pgrep -u username | kill -KILL' ? |
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| 23:06.54 | SuperSox | but I'll cross that bridge later |
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| 23:07.31 | Seb | offtopic: anyone knows how long a gmail session takes to expire ? |
| 23:07.32 | concept10 | what app do you guys use to view quicktime streams? I can never view the ones on apples site. |
| 23:07.36 | mentor | SuperSox: Debian supports anything Linux doews |
| 23:07.38 | Seb | i can't find this info anywhere... |
| 23:07.58 | Paganist | beardy: thanks |
| 23:08.03 | beardy | concept10: mplayer, with the extra codecs package ? |
| 23:08.13 | beardy | Paganist: Now, fix things ;) |
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| 23:08.40 | SuperSox | mentor: yep ;) but have a fear that the card is type III and the laptop only supports type II (unrelated issue to debian really) |
| 23:08.56 | mentor | ah |
| 23:09.13 | SuperSox | can't find out anywhere if the card is type II or III which is equally annoying |
| 23:09.56 | concept10 | beardy: hmm... now if I could configure firefox to start mplayer for apple streams |
| 23:10.17 | beardy | concept10: In the options, mime-types? |
| 23:10.35 | SuperSox | anyone know the difference between the floppy images in ../images/floppy and those in ../images/floppy/access ? |
| 23:10.53 | cheal | concept10: none |
| 23:11.00 | Paganist | beardy: hehe, he got through ssh |
| 23:11.11 | concept10 | cheal: huh? |
| 23:11.13 | beardy | Paganist: Weak password? |
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| 23:12.00 | cheal | concept10: quicktime sucks too much |
| 23:12.10 | foo | Where is the ifcfg-eth0 file in debian? I thought it was /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 .. but I can't find it in debian. |
| 23:12.39 | concept10 | cheal: maybe, im just trying to view the apple press release, I cant get firefox to open those streams |
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| 23:13.03 | Paganist | beardy: yes, my father's one |
| 23:13.07 | Paganist | simple brute force |
| 23:13.10 | beardy | concept10: mplayer http://someplace.foo/stream.file ? |
| 23:13.13 | Paganist | stupiud me |
| 23:13.15 | thingfish | foo: that sounds like fedora. you want /etc/network/interfaces maybe? |
| 23:13.22 | pure2 | foo you might want man interfaces |
| 23:13.28 | beardy | Paganist: Educate your father about good passwords. |
| 23:13.45 | foo | thingfish: nope |
| 23:14.13 | mentor | ah. |
| 23:14.20 | foo | Hmm, nevermind. I really don't need it, I can configure it manually. Just where do I put my settings if I want them to be permanent |
| 23:14.31 | mentor | http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/MANIFEST |
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| 23:15.11 | beardy | Paganist: Hmm, does ssh allow for enough connection attempts to do a bruteforce by default? Or did someone get hold of your passwd and shadow files? Then you have other problems I guess.. |
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| 23:15.26 | mentor | SuperSox: You could try with a usb stick |
| 23:15.35 | petemc | foo: you were too quick to dismiss thingfish.. |
| 23:15.53 | Paganist | beardy: i'll figure out, inspecting now |
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| 23:16.01 | Paganist | still got his .bash_history |
| 23:16.06 | SuperSox | mentor: booting from it? not a chance... and I've only got a 128mb usb stick :S |
| 23:16.13 | foo | petemc: Yeah, he's right. I just need more options .. hehe, oops |
| 23:16.23 | cusco | SuperSox: would be enough www.damnsmalllinux.org |
| 23:16.35 | cusco | based on knokpix |
| 23:16.43 | SuperSox | cusco: yeah, I'm using it just now ;) |
| 23:16.46 | mentor | SuperSox: I think you can boot from a floppy and then load a 2.6 kernel from a usb stick |
| 23:16.47 | cusco | lol |
| 23:16.59 | cusco | SuperSox: yea? the livecd? |
| 23:17.01 | petemc | Paganist: you got the bash_history a user you killed? thats good going |
| 23:17.06 | petemc | +of |
| 23:17.16 | cusco | I thought you couldn't boot from the cd |
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| 23:17.28 | SuperSox | cusco: yeah, having X issues on my other laptop (using testing/unstable) which I can't be bothered to fix |
| 23:17.32 | SuperSox | cusco: different box hehe |
| 23:17.41 | Paganist | petemc: yes and pretty interresting to see |
| 23:17.43 | cusco | oh alright |
| 23:17.51 | mentor | SuperSox: You could also try looking at the console on alt-f4 to see when the system locks up... |
| 23:17.55 | cusco | well you can put htat onto a usbstick |
| 23:18.03 | Paganist | the password was super-weak anyways |
| 23:18.04 | cusco | and use a floppy to boot it |
| 23:18.19 | SuperSox | cusco: that might be the ticket... |
| 23:18.24 | SuperSox | you can install dsl to disk aye? |
| 23:19.09 | beardy | Paganist: /var/log/auth.log check where he came from? |
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| 23:19.22 | mentor | SuperSox: OK, you can't boot 2.6 from a floppy. The images are too large. |
| 23:19.32 | SuperSox | mentor: hehe... |
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| 23:19.44 | mentor | It's not funny! |
| 23:20.20 | cusco | SuperSox: to the harddrive? yes.. but I was sugesting once you boot the usbstick and then use debootstrap |
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| 23:20.46 | SuperSox | cusco: hehe, that would work too! |
| 23:21.07 | SuperSox | humm might get away with creating a boot floppy off my current dsl cd then work from there, brb! |
| 23:21.09 | beardy | Paganist: What did he do? |
| 23:21.22 | mentor | SuperSox: Could you try to find out why d-i is locking? |
| 23:21.23 | mentor | up |
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| 23:21.54 | SuperSox | mentor: no longer have the boot floppies to hand I'm afraid, and creating new ones is a bit of a hassle, I really need to get this done asap and forget about it :| |
| 23:22.06 | tonkar | gentelmen, somebody knows how can i configure gcc to find the gtk include files? |
| 23:22.14 | SuperSox | mentor: all I know is that it locks up when it detects the cdrom (which is connected via a pcmcia card) |
| 23:22.24 | mentor | SuperSox: Ah, ug. |
| 23:22.36 | Paganist | there's just 2 processes i can't get to stop |
| 23:22.39 | Paganist | :/ |
| 23:22.41 | mentor | SuperSox: Do you know what model CDROM drive thingy it is? |
| 23:22.51 | EfaistOs | http://shermix.free.fr/videos.php?id=danse2 |
| 23:22.54 | EfaistOs | oups |
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| 23:23.52 | Paganist | beardy: any idea about it ? |
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| 23:23.56 | nick23 | I just installed Debian sarge rc3 and did apt-get dist-upgrade after changing sources.list to unstable. apt-get says it wants to uninstall e2fsprogs but it's dangerous - what do I do? |
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| 23:24.33 | beardy | nick23: Don't run unstable if you don't know what to do. |
| 23:24.47 | beardy | !d-i nick23 |
| 23:24.47 | dpkg | nick23, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:24.56 | cheal | nick23: there's no such thing as sarge rc3 |
| 23:25.07 | cusco | lol |
| 23:25.07 | cheal | there's a d-i RC3, though |
| 23:25.58 | beardy | Paganist: What processes? |
| 23:26.09 | nick23 | yes sorry, rc3 of the installer |
| 23:26.22 | Paganist | beardy: two processes he launched |
| 23:26.24 | nick23 | I've been running unstable for 2+ years - never came across this. |
| 23:26.32 | Paganist | some script he downloaded |
| 23:26.46 | Paganist | he seemed to try to open a lot of ssh connections |
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| 23:27.05 | Paganist | certainly so my machine can brute force attacks for him |
| 23:27.22 | Paganist | still |
| 23:27.27 | Paganist | 2 processes are opened |
| 23:27.42 | Paganist | and i can't kill then |
| 23:27.49 | beardy | Paganist: and kill -9 doesn't work? |
| 23:27.56 | Paganist | phil 26241 0.0 0.0 1372 236 ? T 19:15 0:00 ./pscan2 80.172 22\ |
| 23:27.58 | Paganist | no |
| 23:28.03 | Paganist | won't kill |
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| 23:29.44 | beardy | Paganist: I think I would disconnect that box from any network, look at it, learn the lessons, and then reinstall, and start being harder on good passwords. |
| 23:30.15 | beardy | Paganist: Have a look at john. |
| 23:30.33 | whitehorse1 | Hi, What is the command to force reconfigure xorg etc so it'll re-detect my mouse etc (which currently won't work in kde) please? |
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| 23:30.44 | tonkar | scuce me, nobody knows how to configure gcc to find the gtk include fiules? |
| 23:31.18 | mentor | tonkar: Are they installed? |
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| 23:31.29 | Paganist | humm |
| 23:31.45 | Paganist | rkhunter doesn't seem to think this has been modified |
| 23:31.52 | Paganist | and this guy didn't get root |
| 23:31.56 | Paganist | just simple user |
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| 23:32.19 | tonkar | yep,m they shoukd |
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| 23:32.32 | mentor | tonkar: ARe you sure? |
| 23:32.36 | cheal | !drxx whitehorse1 |
| 23:32.37 | dpkg | whitehorse1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:33.10 | tonkar | mmm ....., my gtk include file are located in /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk |
| 23:33.13 | roger | hello |
| 23:33.22 | beardy | Paganist: Still can't kill those processes? |
| 23:33.25 | tonkar | i think i need to add some PATH |
| 23:33.27 | roger | algun espaƱol? |
| 23:33.32 | beardy | !es |
| 23:33.32 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:33.32 | Paganist | beardy: no |
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| 23:33.39 | Paganist | 2 processes |
| 23:33.47 | roger | oki |
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| 23:34.08 | mentor | tonkar: Good stuff. man gcc; The option you are probably looking for is '-I' |
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| 23:34.17 | tonkar | mmm .... |
| 23:34.21 | mentor | tonkar: You might need to use pkg-config are something for gtk though... |
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| 23:34.43 | tonkar | but i don't want to write always -I and the include files :S |
| 23:35.07 | coredump_ | Hello there. I'm trying to downgrade from unstable to sarge, but pinning the 'stable' archive with 1001 priority is not acting the expected way... In truth, the dist-upgrade ignores it :\ |
| 23:35.34 | CaT[tm] | probably because all the packages are upto date. |
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| 23:35.59 | magyar | i am trying to send a message to horde list for the past few weeks but i keep getting "said: 550 Error: Message content rejected" |
| 23:36.08 | mentor | tonkar: er... -I is just the include files search path... |
| 23:36.13 | mentor | tonkar: Is this your own software? |
| 23:36.28 | coredump_ | CaT[tm], er... they're.. but in the wrong archive :) They're up to date in the unstable distribution, I want them to downgrade all to stable... |
| 23:36.37 | tonkar | what do you mean with "my software"? |
| 23:36.57 | CaT[tm] | coredump: if you want to try and do this the 'easy' way. change all the versions of your installed packages to 0.0 and then do a dist-upgrade to sarge after. don't know how well this'll work but it'd be worth it to try it :) |
| 23:36.59 | cheal | coredump_: what if you try with a single package? |
| 23:37.00 | tonkar | mentor: that's my computer ... |
| 23:37.14 | beardy | Paganist: that's strange.. |
| 23:37.38 | mentor | tonkar: Is it software you've written yourself? What are you trying to compile? Where did you get it from? |
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| 23:38.04 | MikkelK | Can i loop-mount a .cue/.bin-file? |
| 23:38.13 | tonkar | mentor: no, i'm folowing a tutorial |
| 23:38.14 | dondelelcaro | MikkelK: after you convert it to an iso, yes. |
| 23:38.26 | Paganist | beardy: will dc and investigate |
| 23:38.27 | MikkelK | dondelelcaro, okay, dammit |
| 23:38.32 | Paganist | beardy: thanks for your help |
| 23:38.35 | Paganist | cya |
| 23:38.38 | mentor | tonkar: OK... |
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| 23:38.40 | coredump_ | cheal, 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 23:38.41 | beardy | Paganist: no problem, good luck. |
| 23:38.57 | Paganist | ty |
| 23:38.57 | mentor | tonkar: Are you still having problems then? |
| 23:38.58 | tonkar | mentor: the problem are the gtk libraries |
| 23:39.15 | coredump_ | cheal, Package: diff\n Pin: release a=stable\n Pin-Priority: 1001 |
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| 23:40.22 | tonkar | mentor: mmm .... |
| 23:40.29 | cheal | coredump_: you have stable sources and did an apt-get update after adding them, right? |
| 23:40.35 | tonkar | i think it worked |
| 23:40.51 | tonkar | mentor: but know i have thousand of errors |
| 23:41.13 | mentor | tonkar: Welcome to software development :P |
| 23:41.15 | tonkar | mentor: but it worked, thanks a lot |
| 23:41.15 | coredump_ | cheal, wait, go thru the order again... :) I was using the unstable sources... then I changed them to stable... |
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| 23:41.24 | deadcat | how do i fix the apt secure error the mplayer ppc repo source is giving me? |
| 23:41.26 | tonkar | mentor: ;) |
| 23:41.34 | coredump_ | cheal, I can't remember if I change that after or before :) |
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| 23:42.10 | coredump_ | deadcat, I think you dont... The owner of the repository has to sign the stuff and provide it's gpg key... |
| 23:42.13 | cheal | coredump_: hum, anyway, if you have stable sources now, apt-get update, and retry downgrading a package (that of course has a different version in stable and unstable) |
| 23:43.12 | Serpentwolf | guys hi. i just did a sarge netinst (actually from sid source)... my problem is now, that i cant install anything using apt. it exits with the message "e: this installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs die to a conflicts/pre-depends loop." etc |
| 23:43.22 | Serpentwolf | i could really use some advice please? |
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| 23:44.08 | cheal | Serpentwolf: a sarge "from sid source"?? |
| 23:44.19 | magyar | is there an "ISP" level interface for debian, that would allow user (email, dns, accoutn and billing) software? |
| 23:44.32 | lakcaj | Serpentwolf, you can't go from sid -> sarge |
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| 23:44.37 | Serpentwolf | cheal i used the sareg netinst iso... but i mean, after setup, ive started using sid sources |
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| 23:44.56 | jNoobie | What is the easiest default-windows-client-compatible VPN server to setup on Debian? |
| 23:45.05 | deadcat_ | anyone reply my last question? i got d/c |
| 23:45.16 | coredump_ | jNoobie, try openvpn |
| 23:45.31 | lakcaj | Serpentwolf, so you wish to use the unstable branch? |
| 23:45.38 | Serpentwolf | yes |
| 23:46.26 | Serpentwolf | basically im just wondering what this e2fsprogs error is, everytime i try to use apt |
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| 23:46.58 | lakcaj | Serpentwolf, what have you done so far? Did you replace all instances of stable with unstable in your sources.list file? |
| 23:47.02 | jNoobie | coredump_: I tried installing OpenVPN, but when apt-get was finished doing that, nothing happened. No questions or anything, and /etc/openvpn/ is empty. I don't know where to begin. Is there an easy howto for a basic setup of it somewhere? |
| 23:47.10 | vividan | Is there a utility for changing what services/daemons are started at boot (and if so, what is it)? |
| 23:47.15 | lakcaj | update-rc.d |
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| 23:47.28 | vividan | lakcaj, thanks |
| 23:47.32 | lakcaj | np |
| 23:47.50 | Serpentwolf | lakcaj well after the base install, i opted to edit the sources list, so i added the sid source. and let it install |
| 23:48.16 | coredump_ | jNoobie, /usr/share/doc/openvpn |
| 23:48.42 | coredump_ | jNoobie, and the /etc/openvpn is supposed to be empty until you make your own config :) |
| 23:48.43 | lakcaj | Serpentwolf, well, if you want to run unstable, change all the stable repos to unstable, apt-get update, apt-get install apt, and then apt-get dist-upgrade, in a nutshell. |
| 23:49.19 | Serpentwolf | lakcaj ok. will do that |
| 23:49.27 | Serpentwolf | i cant go back from there? |
| 23:49.38 | lakcaj | Serpentwolf, no, and remember, it's called unstable for a reason |
| 23:49.43 | Serpentwolf | yes |
| 23:49.49 | jNoobie | coredump_: I'd really be more comfortable with the package installing a basic config I could just read through and remove a small "don't run"-line at the bottom to make it start... I don't know where to begin here :( |
| 23:49.50 | Serpentwolf | maybe i should stick to 'testing |
| 23:50.01 | lakcaj | if you just need a specific package or something from unstable, you could google for "apt pinning" |
| 23:50.19 | magyar | is there an html based ISP type software solution for debian? |
| 23:50.27 | Serpentwolf | lakcaj ok thanks for the advice. |
| 23:50.56 | lakcaj | Serpentwolf, things don't last long in unstable before they are moved to testing. IMHO, testing is a great place to be if you are looking to experiment a bit outside of sarge. |
| 23:51.12 | jNoobie | coredump_: seems to me there are a lot of scripts, keys, different config files... I don't even know where to begin. |
| 23:51.12 | sward | Serpentwolf: Is there anything in particular that you need that's in Testing or Unstable but not in Stable? |
| 23:51.21 | Serpentwolf | lakcaj yes i agree, i realise my error ... |
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| 23:51.33 | Serpentwolf | sward not really |
| 23:51.38 | Serpentwolf | php5 maybe |
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| 23:51.57 | sward | Serpentwolf: You could try looking for some stuff in backports |
| 23:52.12 | Serpentwolf | oh right. yes forgot about that |
| 23:52.41 | litage | i chmod'd a script to 4751, but non-root users aren't allowed to execute it. what have i done wrong? |
| 23:52.44 | coredump_ | cheal, if I go to aptitude and choose a pkg like alien, I can choose to downgrade it from 0.83 to 0.82. But I want to make all my installed packages do that... Without choosing one by one. |
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| 23:53.37 | lakcaj | Serpentwolf, check this out: |
| 23:53.42 | lakcaj | !unstable->stable |
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| 23:54.03 | lakcaj | Hrmmm.... dpkg not playing nice |
| 23:54.05 | ericP | valdyn, (obvious apologies for pestering you) I seem to need /dev/snd/<lotsa stuff> to run alsa. should alsaconf have provided them? |
| 23:54.16 | lakcaj | !tell Serpentwolf about unstable->stable |
| 23:54.33 | Serpentwolf | hahah ok |
| 23:54.39 | lakcaj | :) |
| 23:54.40 | ericP | also, since i started experimenting, my system has gotten painfully slow |
| 23:54.41 | lakcaj | !test |
| 23:54.41 | dpkg | Yes, lakcaj, you're still online. |
| 23:54.48 | lakcaj | !unstable->stable |
| 23:54.55 | lakcaj | wtf? |
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| 23:56.21 | tonkar | mentor: any idea why i become so many errors |
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| 23:56.50 | tonkar | mentor: i downlaoded gtk, i don't think that the package comes with errors |
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| 23:56.59 | cheal | coredump_: ok, but will apt-get install alien downgrade it? |
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| 23:57.23 | tonkar | mentor: and i have thousands of errors, i think i'm doing something wrong |
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| 23:57.54 | tonkar | mentor: i'm following www.gtk.org/tutorial |
| 23:57.56 | jNoobie | I'm trying to use a howto I found to get an OpenVPN server running on Debian. It tells me to make a tun device using "mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200". This returns "mknod: `/dev/net/tun': No such file or directory" which doesn't make any sense to me, since I thought "/dev/net/tun" was what I was trying to create in the first place... What should I do? |
| 23:58.31 | pem3v78 | create /dev/net directory |
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| 23:59.17 | jNoobie | ah |
