| 00:00.31 | kamaraju | is there anyway to get a progress bar in mplayer? |
| 00:00.38 | ajitabhpandey | after doing some checking, verifying etc I got an error in libsigc++ (i was told that it is not available) |
| 00:01.05 | cheal | kamaraju: ask #mplayer |
| 00:01.11 | Akrame | !tell akrame -about netinst |
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| 00:01.21 | ke6isf | !tell Akrame -about msg the bot |
| 00:01.26 | kamaraju | cheal: ok. Thanks |
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| 00:01.40 | Akrame | !tell ke6isf thank you :) |
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| 00:01.46 | ajitabhpandey | any idea about what went wrong with debootstrap |
| 00:01.59 | streuner | no |
| 00:02.01 | ke6isf | Woah, an IPv6 address. |
| 00:02.15 | streuner | Who would use a ubuntu live CD to install debian... |
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| 00:02.29 | ajitabhpandey | i didn't have a choice |
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| 00:02.39 | ajitabhpandey | ubuntu live was the only thing i had at that time |
| 00:02.42 | streuner | you have always a choice |
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| 00:04.23 | streuner | !tell ajitabhpandey about ig |
| 00:04.30 | ajitabhpandey | but i was doing correct steps, isn't it? |
| 00:04.48 | ajitabhpandey | what does ig means? |
| 00:05.00 | ajitabhpandey | (sorry new to irc) |
| 00:05.02 | streuner | install guide |
| 00:05.12 | ajitabhpandey | ok, install guide |
| 00:05.12 | greycat | read what the bot says, and you will know. |
| 00:06.17 | ke6isf | ajitabhpandey: (hint: follow the link) |
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| 00:07.20 | ajitabhpandey | will look at ig about this, but think there is something else wrong (wither with lvm2 settings or somewhere else) |
| 00:07.34 | ajitabhpandey | as the same steps worked at home |
| 00:07.43 | ajitabhpandey | without a hickup |
| 00:07.55 | felipe___ | exit |
| 00:07.57 | felipe___ | ups |
| 00:07.59 | streuner | ig explains it all |
| 00:08.01 | felipe___ | :D |
| 00:08.08 | ajitabhpandey | yeah will look at ig |
| 00:11.32 | NPR_Mike | I tried installing debian its not finding my network card VIA Chipset |
| 00:12.24 | greycat | try loading via-rhine by hand |
| 00:12.56 | LightVision | Does WINE work good under Sarge? |
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| 00:13.12 | ke6isf | LightVision: Near as I can tell, yeah. |
| 00:13.17 | NPR_Mike | how do I do that ? |
| 00:13.26 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok great |
| 00:13.42 | jair_11 | omgs, what is a good number of clamav updates per day? |
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| 00:13.46 | ke6isf | LightVision: You'll probably have to tweak it a bit. |
| 00:13.48 | Jeriko- | hi |
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| 00:14.08 | Jeriko- | how can i use the fn+$foo keys on my laptop with debian? there aren't recognized at all |
| 00:14.21 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok |
| 00:14.30 | ke6isf | !tell Jeriko- -about laptop |
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| 00:14.44 | jair_11 | omgs, what is a good number of clamav updates per day? |
| 00:14.47 | comex | Why isn't fc-list including Helvetica? fc-cache -v definitely looks in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi and 100dpi, and as far as I can see the cache files it makes include helvetica. |
| 00:14.53 | jair_11 | what is a good number of clamav updates per day? |
| 00:14.58 | ke6isf | !tell jair_11 -about repeat |
| 00:15.08 | jair_11 | ke6isf, sorry |
| 00:15.21 | jair_11 | ke6isf, do you use clamav? |
| 00:15.26 | ke6isf | jair_11: No. |
| 00:15.33 | dogmeat | is there a gui that allows me to control the firewall for ether interfaces? |
| 00:15.38 | jair_11 | anyone here use clamav? |
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| 00:16.03 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11 - yes i do use clamav |
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| 00:16.07 | ke6isf | jair_11: Like dpkg said, if you don't get an answer here, it's because we probably don't know. Follow the bot's instructions. |
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| 00:16.22 | fando | is there a wireless configuration helper? |
| 00:16.32 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, ok |
| 00:16.33 | juanfe | hello all |
| 00:16.33 | jair_11 | cool |
| 00:16.35 | ke6isf | !tell fando -about wireless |
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| 00:16.55 | fando | thx |
| 00:16.59 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, I have a question about how many updates per day i should indicate to clamav? |
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| 00:17.17 | aisotton | I notice a very strange behavior in Gnome (sid) since a few days. Before, clicking *anywhere* on a window, that window was focused and brought on top. Now I have to click on the *title bar* for the same behaviour. Can anybody explain? |
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| 00:17.46 | CaT[tm] | someone changed the default to something sensible? :) |
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| 00:18.01 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, updates should be as frequent as possible. imo hourly updates on a production server should be fine |
| 00:18.25 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, cool |
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| 00:18.36 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, what about the question of notify or not? |
| 00:18.38 | juanfe | anyone know a program of style of Norton Ghost for linux? |
| 00:18.55 | liable | partimage |
| 00:18.56 | ke6isf | juanfe: for backups? |
| 00:19.07 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, i select notify because like that I can now that it will updated or already did an update |
| 00:19.07 | juanfe | yes. for backups |
| 00:19.12 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11 sorry missed that question, can you please repeat |
| 00:19.14 | ke6isf | juanfe: mondo might work. |
| 00:19.42 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, when i was configuring it, it ask me something like if I want that clamav notify me about the updates |
| 00:19.50 | juanfe | mondo and partimage what one is best? |
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| 00:20.19 | ke6isf | !best |
| 00:20.19 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
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| 00:20.50 | juanfe | :-) only for a backup |
| 00:21.04 | juanfe | easy to use |
| 00:21.24 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, ok yeah i remember now (actually i did it long back and since then it was very smooth on auto updates). Well it depends on your choice. I have said no as I don't want to fill up my mailbox with hourly update emails |
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| 00:21.39 | ke6isf | juanfe: Play with them both, I guess. |
| 00:21.54 | juanfe | and if posible hold de partition table |
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| 00:22.10 | tomb0y | how do i stop dropped packets from just displayuing on my screen.. and just goto a log file instead ? |
| 00:22.17 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, ohhh but then the otherwise it will wait for you until you accept to do the update right? |
| 00:22.26 | greycat | /msg dpkg klogd |
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| 00:22.45 | ke6isf | juanfe: Like I said, play with them both. I still have yet to play with mondo myself.... |
| 00:22.50 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, actually it was something like it will delay the process and check every 6 hours |
| 00:22.55 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, I got it |
| 00:23.02 | tomb0y | greycat: thanks |
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| 00:23.14 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, it will wait 6 hours to check for the updates on your case got it. |
| 00:23.14 | juanfe | then I try both. Thanks ke6isf |
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| 00:24.24 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, I get this message when i was installing the clamav-daemon:http://pastebin.com/360220 |
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| 00:25.20 | jair_11 | what I should do about this for those debian users that run clamav-daemon http://pastebin.com/360220 |
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| 00:26.26 | luite | what can be wrong when the kernel suddenly hangs while booting (after some ehci_hcd messages). is there a way to get more info about what's going on? |
| 00:28.11 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, that message merely means that you are either running some old binary for clamav or soem old libarary is still lying in the path |
| 00:28.49 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, what i should do? |
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| 00:29.07 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, check by $ whereis freshclam $ whereis clamscan |
| 00:29.28 | ajitabhpandey | see if you find two binaries present in the system. |
| 00:29.35 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, hmmm |
| 00:29.37 | jair_11 | ok |
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| 00:29.47 | kyo | Is there an easy way to change a system from Testing to Stable? |
| 00:29.50 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11 upgrading version is your choice stable versions means stablity |
| 00:29.55 | greycat | kyo: reinstall from scratch |
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| 00:30.10 | jair_11 | actually when i install the clamav I select something like daemon then after that i install clamav-daemon and I got the error |
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| 00:30.26 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, so the version I have is stable or old? |
| 00:30.31 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, but on the other hand you might be slightly behind in new features |
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| 00:30.40 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, ohhh |
| 00:30.51 | jair_11 | I prefer to be stable |
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| 00:30.53 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, you need to check that, check man for how to check the version |
| 00:31.10 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, ohh ok |
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| 00:31.41 | LightVision | jair_11: I prefer to be stable too :) that way my family accepts me ;) |
| 00:31.45 | kyo | greycat: I was afraid of that |
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| 00:32.16 | Jeriko- | what options do i have to configure in the kernel in order to get my laptop to power off at shutdown? |
| 00:32.24 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, use clamscan --version and freshclam --version |
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| 00:33.31 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, one sec |
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| 00:33.40 | DigitALLRed | hi all |
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| 00:34.34 | Supaplex | hello 001010111001010 all red |
| 00:34.46 | DigitALLRed | :P |
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| 00:36.55 | Draconis | Hi, I'm trying to set up KDE on debian but am having issues with xwindows. I'm getting a fatal server errror, no screens found. Could someone help me with this? |
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| 00:38.49 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, ClamAV 0.84/1074/Sat Sep 10 09:08:47 2005 |
| 00:38.57 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, that is the version i have |
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| 00:39.13 | liable | !tell Draconis about no screens found |
| 00:39.33 | LightVision | I have installed a new second hard drive! whats the command I type to tell Sarge to see and use the 2nd hard drive? |
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| 00:39.52 | liable | LightVision: put it in fstab |
| 00:40.00 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, ClamAV 0.84/1074/Sat Sep 10 09:08:47 2005 |
| 00:40.01 | jair_11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.01 | ke6isf | !tell LightVision -about fstab |
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| 00:40.09 | LightVision | liable: yes but what commands do I use in fstab? |
| 00:40.12 | ke6isf | LightVision: Have you partitioned it/formatted it? |
| 00:40.23 | liable | !breastfeed LightVision |
| 00:40.23 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, that's the one which is latest and I have that two |
| 00:40.24 | LightVision | ke6isf: yes, its in ext3 |
| 00:40.35 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, what do you think i should just try to install it again later or update it or upgrade it |
| 00:40.38 | ke6isf | LightVision: OK, then 'man 5 fstab'. |
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| 00:40.42 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, ok |
| 00:40.44 | jair_11 | cool |
| 00:40.44 | LightVision | !liable = not helpful |
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| 00:40.50 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok thanks |
| 00:40.52 | liable | hehe |
| 00:40.56 | jair_11 | ajitabhpandey, then is the latest one of stable right |
| 00:41.00 | jair_11 | :) |
| 00:41.15 | LightVision | liable: always remember where you started and that you were new once too. thanks |
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| 00:41.50 | liable | LightVision: cmon dude, i gave you the info about fstab, now read the man page for it and work it out. |
| 00:41.52 | adrakoa | Draconis you can probe to write dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, or edit /etc/X11/ |
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| 00:42.05 | adrakoa | Draconis you can probe to write dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, or edit /etc/X11/XF86config |
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| 00:42.44 | LightVision | liable: ok, but no need to try to breastfeed me :P |
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| 00:43.03 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11, yeah that's right |
| 00:43.17 | adrakoa | i have two wifi cards, but the twice up don't work... |
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| 00:43.42 | bucky | Kim Clijsters is looking good |
| 00:43.51 | ajitabhpandey | jair_11 c u later bye |
| 00:43.53 | liable | adrakoa: what do you want to do with two of them? use it as a router? |
| 00:45.06 | Supaplex | he wants failover wifi ;) |
| 00:45.37 | Supaplex | incase layer1 is disconnected |
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| 00:45.45 | adrakoa | liable yes i want use one like "router" of a local and the other to inet... |
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| 00:46.27 | liable | adrakoa: man route might help you there. |
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| 00:47.09 | greycat | |
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| 00:48.59 | bucky | greycat, |
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| 00:49.12 | adrakoa | liable thanks. i really i want know if it's possible the twice in two different essid, when i use route with dev XXX , neither of cards works... |
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| 00:49.43 | Supaplex | adrakoa: get one working at a time, keep a log of what you're doing and what works, go from there |
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| 00:50.02 | Bimmerman | hello, which gui ftp server/client is considered the best? that is available in a debian package? |
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| 00:50.16 | Supaplex | !best |
| 00:50.16 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 00:50.27 | eosoal | Bimmerman: try gftp |
| 00:50.34 | liable | adrakoa: shouldnt be a problem. |
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| 00:50.48 | LightVision | liable: when I install Sarge, kppp doesnt load! to make this available, is all I need to do is type "adduser username dip" or do I also need to "adduser username dialout" ? |
| 00:50.52 | greycat | there's no such thing as a gui ftp server. |
| 00:50.56 | greycat | the concept it nonsensical |
| 00:51.32 | Supaplex | makes as much sense as a gui network driver |
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| 00:51.39 | eosoal | greycat: he is obviously referring to a client. |
| 00:51.44 | bucky | network neighborhood |
| 00:51.49 | greycat | he said "server/client" |
| 00:51.59 | liable | LightVision: dialout |
| 00:52.06 | Supaplex | bucky: that's not a driver, it's a browser |
| 00:52.09 | greycat | if he were referring just to a client, surely he would not have written "server/" |
| 00:52.11 | finn | what's wrong with the scheduler? galileo is running... thought they were going to have it fixed 10 hours ago :( |
| 00:52.18 | finn | wrong channel, argh |
| 00:52.19 | finkster | there is a ftp server that uses gui :p |
| 00:52.21 | LightVision | liable: or can I simply load /etc/ppp/options and comment out "lock" ? |
| 00:52.22 | finkster | but.. |
| 00:52.26 | finkster | on windows :p |
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| 00:52.33 | luite | hm, my kernel hangs on: ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1, what could be wrong? |
| 00:52.36 | LightVision | liable: will that do the same thing? |
| 00:52.54 | eosoal | greycat: he may not know but you should know better. why pick on someone's obvious mistake? |
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| 00:53.05 | liable | LightVision: what do you want? for it to connect on boot or something? |
| 00:53.22 | Supaplex | obvious is in the eye of the beholder here. what if he really wants one, he'll have to say so |
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| 00:53.37 | eosoal | Bimmerman: gftp is good. i am using it. |
| 00:54.49 | LightVision | liable: when a person installs Sarge, kppp is not available for general use! so I just want it available for anyone to use to dial out |
| 00:55.02 | LightVision | liable: can I simply load /etc/ppp/options and comment out "lock" ? |
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| 00:55.14 | LightVision | liable: will that save me having to adduser username dialout? |
| 00:55.37 | liable | LightVision: err, dunno about the lock bit, but if you add them to dialout, they should be able to use it. |
| 00:55.37 | woodland | hi when i upgrade my distro, does it install new softwares |
| 00:55.46 | LightVision | liable: ok thank you |
| 00:56.00 | LightVision | woodland: notice the word "upgrade" |
| 00:56.13 | greycat | woodland: no. it simply makes the modem light flash to make it appear that it is doing something. it's all deception. smoke and mirrors. |
| 00:56.14 | liable | woodland: of course. |
| 00:56.22 | LightVision | greycat: lol |
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| 00:56.26 | liable | hehe |
| 00:56.45 | woodland | greycat, u dont have to be sarcastic |
| 00:56.51 | LightVision | liable: I thought it only upgrades! i didnt know upgrade installs totally new stuff as well |
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| 00:57.09 | greycat | woodland: you don't have to be ridiculous |
| 00:57.14 | LightVision | woodland: forgive greycat, he just had a catfight earlier with deadcat :) |
| 00:57.32 | woodland | i mean updating my currently installed softwares is fine, but i dont want to install new software |
| 00:57.44 | LightVision | greycat: yes I must confesss your comment made me rofl |
| 00:57.48 | greycat | then run stable. |
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| 00:58.12 | woodland | i am running debian sarge stable |
| 00:58.22 | LightVision | liable: I thought it only upgrades! i didnt know upgrade installs totally new stuff as well! so when we do an upgrade, it doesnt just upgrade? |
| 00:58.29 | LightVision | woodland: me too |
| 00:58.46 | LightVision | woodland: am running debian sarge stable as well |
| 00:58.48 | woodland | but i dont see kernel 2.6.12 when i do 'apt-cache search kernel-image' |
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| 00:59.03 | CaT[tm] | wood: it's not in sarge. |
| 00:59.08 | liable | LightVision: um, it installs newer versions of the software. |
| 00:59.09 | LightVision | woodland: why do you want kernel 2.6.12? use 2.6.8 |
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| 00:59.21 | LightVision | liable: well thats just upgrading :) |
| 00:59.31 | stormo | how do i stop aptitude from uninstalling all of KDE? it's been like this for three weeks now, and prevents me from dist-upgrading if i do aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 00:59.35 | greycat | you said you don't want new software. then you said you want new software. |
| 00:59.40 | greycat | this is why I get upset. |
| 00:59.45 | LightVision | liable: woodland was asking it if upgrades and installs totally new software as well |
| 00:59.46 | woodland | can u tell me which package i should install for 2.6.8, there are several. |
| 00:59.51 | stormo | i've been told I have to hand-hack the dependencies, but i wasn't told specifics |
| 00:59.54 | liable | woodland: 2.6.12 isnt available for sarge, but if you really need it, just get it from the sid repo. |
| 00:59.59 | greycat | I'm out of here. it's obviously becoming Sunday. |
| 01:00.00 | LightVision | greycat: some people are confused, thats all! be patient |
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| 01:00.24 | LightVision | greycat needs a good patting |
| 01:00.29 | rutski89 | can ImageMagick fuse two images together on their east and west edges? |
| 01:00.31 | LightVision | :) |
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| 01:00.38 | LightVision | ravenbird: wb |
| 01:00.38 | ravenbird_ | thanks, lightvision. It's good to be back. |
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| 01:00.46 | mlalkaka | hi everyone |
| 01:00.52 | LightVision | ravenbird: and its good to see you back :) |
| 01:00.52 | ravenbird_ | LightVision: i don't know |
| 01:01.04 | LightVision | mlalkaka: hi there |
| 01:01.07 | liable | rutski89: gimp is prolly your best bet for that.. |
| 01:01.31 | woodland | can u tell me which package i should install for 2.6.8, there are several. |
| 01:02.00 | LightVision | woodland: this is what I did 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.6" |
| 01:02.11 | LightVision | woodland: and I use Sarge too and that worked great |
| 01:02.12 | woodland | uname -a |
| 01:02.27 | adrakoa | woodland why do you go to www.kernel.org and download the kernel what you want... |
| 01:02.44 | woodland | light, this is my architecture |
| 01:03.12 | LightVision | woodland: what is? |
| 01:03.12 | ke6isf | rutski89: It can, but like liable pointed out, it's easier in gimp. |
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| 01:04.01 | woodland | can u see that ,lightvision, i typed /exec uname -a |
| 01:04.08 | rutski89 | ke6isf: yea, I've been gimping images together for my 2560x1024 desktop for a long time, I thought it might be nice to have random wallpapers though, and doing this via bash with ImageMagick would be kinda cool |
| 01:04.18 | ke6isf | woodland: All that appeared was 'uname -a'. |
| 01:04.46 | ke6isf | rutski89: Immediately, 'mogrify' might be the tool of choice then, but it's going to involve playing around. |
| 01:05.04 | woodland | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:05.21 | Mugsy_ | Is apt-get upgrade safe? |
| 01:05.23 | ke6isf | woodland: OK, that tells me you have a 686-based processor, is that correct? |
| 01:05.31 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: What version of Debian? |
| 01:05.31 | woodland | ok ke6 |
| 01:05.35 | woodland | sarge |
| 01:05.45 | finkster | hi there people.. did someone has used lessdisks? (disksless booting program) I wanted to know how can I writte data on my Disk..(a bunch of them in sync-mode) |
| 01:05.46 | Mugsy_ | Sarge |
| 01:05.53 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Perfectly. |
| 01:06.09 | Mugsy_ | Okay |
| 01:06.15 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Not only is it safe, it's a Very Good Idea. |
| 01:06.25 | Mugsy_ | ke6isf, do you use aptitude? |
| 01:06.29 | woodland | i also have AMD processor, not INTEL, so i should go for kernel for AMD |
| 01:06.36 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Not normally, no. |
| 01:06.47 | Mugsy_ | Do you just use apt-get? |
| 01:06.49 | ke6isf | woodland: lemme look at something. What flavor of AMD? |
| 01:06.51 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Yep. |
| 01:06.56 | eluria | hi. does debian contain any editor or alike to configure initscripts? |
| 01:07.05 | woodland | AMD athlon ke6 |
| 01:07.32 | ke6isf | woodland: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 01:07.41 | woodland | ok |
| 01:07.58 | psnl | woodland: I stick with the 386 images on by k6 |
| 01:08.08 | psnl | s/by/my/ |
| 01:08.20 | Mugsy_ | k36isf, do you know how to make aptitude get rid of all the stuff it wants to download |
| 01:08.21 | woodland | ke6is, i did install this kernel, but i couldnt connect to internet |
| 01:08.39 | Mugsy_ | I tried reinstalling it... |
| 01:08.42 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Not really. Why is it requesting the upgrade? |
| 01:08.43 | finkster | no one to help me around diskless-booting...? (please?) |
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| 01:09.13 | Mugsy_ | ke6isf, no I just got like 1 million files I dont want it to download and I cant use it till I get rid of them |
| 01:09.37 | eluria | do i have to remove initscript links manually or is there some tool for that purpose? |
| 01:09.39 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: I'd suggest finding out *why* it wants to do it. |
| 01:09.50 | woodland | ke6is, i did install kernel 2.6.8-2-k7, but i couldnt connect to internet |
| 01:10.01 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: You can put each package on hold, but that may be counterproductive. |
| 01:10.01 | adrakoa | woodland but with a kernel image all options of internet are enabled. |
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| 01:10.12 | ke6isf | woodland: Paste your sources.list into #flood. |
| 01:10.38 | woodland | ke6isf, is that a diffrent channel |
| 01:10.40 | ke6isf | woodland: You may need to do apt-setup. |
| 01:10.42 | ke6isf | woodland: Yep. |
| 01:10.48 | ke6isf | woodland: /j #flood |
| 01:10.52 | woodland | ok |
| 01:11.29 | Mugsy_ | ke6isf: Its because of all the dependencies or something for stuff |
| 01:11.49 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: What depends on these packages? |
| 01:12.05 | Mugsy_ | Like a billion libs and stuff, and like a billion stuff gets removed |
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| 01:12.26 | mlalkaka | i need some help. i just updated alsa-base, but it required me to uninstall alsa-utils. now i dont have alsa-utils, and i can't set up my sound card. when i try to install alsa-utils, it says that i have to uninstall gnome, gnome-desktop-environment, gnome-volume-manager, hal, hal-device-manager, udev. but i can't uninstall these obviously. i need them. what can i do? |
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| 01:13.30 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Just install it. If you don't need something, you can uninstall it later. If it's installing in aptitude, there's probably a really good reason. |
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| 01:14.56 | liable | mlalkaka: you could not use sid? |
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| 01:15.09 | mlalkaka | liable, i'm using etch |
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| 01:17.04 | liable | mlalkaka: try downgrading alsa-base, and installing your old alsa-utils, or wait a day or two. |
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| 01:17.19 | mlalkaka | liable, how do i downgrade alsa-base? |
| 01:17.33 | Ekun | hi |
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| 01:17.47 | liable | mlalkaka: install it with dpkg from your apt cache if you didnt clean it out. |
| 01:18.09 | mlalkaka | liable, will it uninstall the newer version first? |
| 01:18.44 | eluria | how do i install local .deb files? |
| 01:18.50 | liable | mlalkaka: yes. |
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| 01:18.53 | Mugsy_ | ke6isf: I triedd that once, and it deleted like all my files |
| 01:18.56 | eluria | including dependencies |
| 01:19.11 | liable | eluria: manually with dpkg |
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| 01:19.15 | mlalkaka | liable, uh. what if i already cleared the cache? |
| 01:19.28 | Ekun | i tryed to install via apt-get the ati controlers, i downloaded em correctly but suddenly the X crashes and the apt-get told me to run a command to fix the problem, i did but again when the update finished X crashes |
| 01:19.40 | liable | mlalkaka: snapshot.debian.org |
| 01:19.43 | eluria | liable: heh yeh i tried that but it complained about deps...is there any way to have dpkg install them automatically? |
| 01:19.59 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: that's not correct behavior for APT. At all. |
| 01:20.11 | liable | eluria: no, trial and error which ones to install first.. |
| 01:20.20 | Mugsy_ | Well I installed like 3 gigs of packages lol |
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| 01:20.38 | woodland | ok |
| 01:20.51 | eluria | liable: oh nice. kinda stupid for such an advanced system..oh well who am i to complain :) |
| 01:20.56 | eluria | thx |
| 01:21.04 | mlalkaka | liable, snapshot.debian.org doesn't exist |
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| 01:21.22 | abrotman | .net |
| 01:21.24 | liable | eluria: thats what apt and debian repos are for :) |
| 01:21.26 | Ekun | what can i do to fix my X server? |
| 01:21.29 | kasper | can anyone give me some advise as to what i should fix: i've got the hostap-kernel-modules, and driver, and utils, the module loads when i insert my card but whenever i goto try and iwconfig wlan0 essid 'name' key 'mykey' and get an ip it never works. ????? |
| 01:21.40 | [reed] | Can anybody help me with the error at http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=742 ? I've just apt-get'd all the mysql stuff, so I don't understand why it is not working. |
| 01:21.50 | ke6isf | eluria: What package are you attempting to install? |
| 01:21.56 | eluria | ke6isf: xv |
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| 01:22.08 | eluria | ke6isf: for some fluxbox themes |
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| 01:23.11 | Ekun | i tryed to install via apt-get the ati controlers, i downloaded em correctly but suddenly the X crashes and the apt-get told me to run a command to fix the problem, i did but again when the update finished X crashes |
| 01:23.14 | ke6isf | eluria: Find out what deps you need, install them via apt, then install xv. |
| 01:23.15 | Ekun | what can i do to fix my X server?? |
| 01:23.37 | ke6isf | !tell Ekun -about repeat |
| 01:23.47 | superkitty | Ekun does it crash with an error? |
| 01:23.52 | Ekun | no |
| 01:24.02 | Ekun | the login screen appeared |
| 01:24.13 | ke6isf | Ekun: So log in. |
| 01:24.18 | eluria | ke6isf: yeh i was about to try that way..i already got other problems though, libtiff is 'referred to by other packages' but not available from current sources..bleh |
| 01:24.24 | Ekun | i did |
| 01:24.35 | Ekun | and again when i try to use apt-get |
| 01:24.50 | Ekun | the x crashes when it finnishes |
| 01:25.31 | Ekun | :S |
| 01:25.37 | Ekun | i dunno ehat to do |
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| 01:25.47 | danieldg | Ekun: try running apt-get inside a screen session and reattach after you restart x |
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| 01:26.04 | woodland | i cant chat with anybody in #flood |
| 01:26.19 | ke6isf | Ekun: Switch to console mode, run apt-get from in there, and try again. |
| 01:26.27 | Ekun | k |
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| 01:26.34 | Ekun | i'll try |
| 01:26.36 | ke6isf | woodland: #flood is for long lists that shouldn't be pasted ina channel. |
| 01:26.37 | ke6isf | !flood |
| 01:26.37 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 01:26.54 | liable | woodland: whats wrong with that? |
| 01:27.18 | ke6isf | woodland: Trying to chat in #flood, it's widely grokked, has a tendency to summon Cthulhu, and we really don't want that now. |
| 01:27.23 | mlalkaka | liable, any other ideas? |
| 01:27.27 | woodland | ke6isf, i posted in #flood , what i got after i tried to install kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 |
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| 01:27.56 | liable | mlalkaka: didnt work? |
| 01:28.02 | woodland | i can post it again in flood for u to see |
| 01:28.09 | ke6isf | woodland: wait for me to join. |
| 01:28.12 | mlalkaka | liable, snapshot.debian.org doesn't exist |
| 01:28.14 | ke6isf | OK, now. |
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| 01:28.47 | danieldg | mlalkaka: did you try snapshot.debian.net? |
| 01:28.53 | liable | mlalkaka: sorry, as abrotman poited out, its .net, not .org |
| 01:28.59 | woodland | so |
| 01:29.05 | mlalkaka | liable, oh sry i missed that message |
| 01:29.11 | ke6isf | woodland: That's the end of it? |
| 01:29.16 | woodland | yep |
| 01:29.25 | ke6isf | woodland: Looks like the kernel install went as planned. |
| 01:29.30 | woodland | ok |
| 01:29.42 | liable | woodland: reboot into it.. |
| 01:29.50 | woodland | let me boot in and see if i can connect to net |
| 01:29.52 | ke6isf | woodland: In order to use it... what liable said. |
| 01:29.53 | woodland | ok |
| 01:30.16 | ke6isf | woodland: If you can't connect, save the error info that comes up if anything on screen, or look in the log files. |
| 01:30.54 | [reed] | Does anybody have an idea about the error at http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=742 ? I get it just after an apt-get of mysql. |
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| 01:31.20 | ke6isf | !tell [reed] -about repeat |
| 01:31.22 | woodland | but i am surprised by one fact , ke6isf, while using apt-get it didnt ask me if i want to install 45 MB of packages, which usually apt-get does |
| 01:31.30 | rutski89 | I really feeling like coding something, only I don't know what to do |
| 01:31.37 | rutski89 | hehe, i guess I'm just bored O.o |
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| 01:32.05 | ke6isf | woodland: When's the last time you did an apt-get update? |
| 01:32.13 | woodland | long back |
| 01:32.26 | ke6isf | woodland: You should do that, and follow with 'apt-get upgrade'. |
| 01:32.28 | woodland | should i do it again, |
| 01:32.30 | woodland | ok |
| 01:32.38 | superkitty | how many folks here run Debian/stable? |
| 01:32.43 | ke6isf | woodland: At *minimum*, you should do that once per week. |
| 01:32.47 | ke6isf | superkitty: Yo. What's up? |
| 01:32.48 | [reed] | ke6isf: I actually retyped all that. ;P Plus, that was over 10 min. ago when I said that, and I haven't been answered yet. |
| 01:32.49 | liable | !poll |
| 01:32.49 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 01:32.54 | rutski89 | ke6isf: heh, its been like 4 weeks, thanks for the reminder :-p |
| 01:32.55 | ke6isf | !liable++ |
| 01:33.27 | ke6isf | [reed]: And the same thing applies regardless. We may (not) know, ask the list. |
| 01:33.33 | woodland | ke6isf, when i update , does it install new packages , or it only updates currently installed packages ? |
| 01:33.34 | liable | [reed]: maybe no-one knows? try #mysql? |
| 01:33.59 | mlalkaka | liable, thanks it worked :). so when should i update alsa-base and alsa-utils? it shows as upgradeable, but wrecks my system lol. has anyone else had this problem? |
| 01:34.04 | ke6isf | woodland: No, 'update' simply gets the data files reflecting current revisions. 'upgrade' is what installs the updated versions. |
| 01:34.05 | liable | woodland: apt-get install apt-howto |
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| 01:34.14 | ke6isf | rutski89: Gladly. |
| 01:34.16 | liable | mlalkaka: check the bts. |
| 01:34.21 | [reed] | liable: actually asked there first because it is technically an mysql error -- nobody is there. Since I got it directly on apt-get, I decided to ask here, too. |
| 01:34.31 | woodland | ok |
| 01:34.38 | mlalkaka | liable, from the snapshot site? |
| 01:35.16 | liable | !bts |
| 01:35.16 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 01:35.55 | griott | buenas buenas |
| 01:36.05 | woodland | so 'apt-get upgrade' only installs newer versions of currently installed softwares, right |
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| 01:36.08 | ke6isf | !cl |
| 01:36.08 | dpkg | i heard cl is common lisp |
| 01:36.14 | ke6isf | =O.o= |
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| 01:36.24 | liable | woodland: yes, unless theres new dependencies. |
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| 01:36.41 | ke6isf | woodland: For all intents, yes. |
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| 01:36.57 | Ekun | solved! |
| 01:36.59 | Ekun | :P |
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| 01:37.16 | Ekun | thanks but |
| 01:37.17 | woodland | liable, what happens if there are new dependencies |
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| 01:37.34 | mlalkaka | liable, alright. thanks |
| 01:37.34 | Ekun | i still have a prob with mi screen |
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| 01:37.42 | superkitty | apt informs you of the new packages |
| 01:37.49 | liable | woodland: it installs them.. |
| 01:37.53 | woodland | ok |
| 01:38.20 | woodland | liable, does it uninstall old versions at the same time |
| 01:38.25 | liable | yes |
| 01:38.28 | woodland | ok |
| 01:38.31 | Ekun | how can i resize my screen and change the frecunzy, the KDE/GNOME utils doesnt seem to work |
| 01:38.46 | liable | woodland: really, apt-get install apt-howto-en |
| 01:39.07 | woodland | ok |
| 01:39.15 | ke6isf | woodland: The docs in that package will tell you everything you've ever wanted to know about apt, but weren't afraid to ask. =^_^= |
| 01:39.52 | eosoal | whenever i do a apt-get update, there's always a 3484kb transfer. why? |
| 01:39.52 | woodland | =^_^= |
| 01:40.02 | superkitty | Ekun do you know the specifics for your monitor? |
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| 01:40.18 | ke6isf | eosoal: What server(s) have a 'Get'? |
| 01:40.18 | Ekun | superkitty, yes i know |
| 01:40.35 | ke6isf | !drxx Ekun |
| 01:40.37 | dpkg | Ekun: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 01:40.58 | eosoal | ke6isf: don't get you. |
| 01:41.05 | liable | well, i dont see why everyone was busting there ass to get kde3.4.. |
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| 01:41.29 | liable | well, not everyone, but you know what i mean.. |
| 01:41.34 | superkitty | for resizing your screen you can edit the /etc/X11/XFconfig-4 |
| 01:41.44 | superkitty | BE careful |
| 01:41.48 | ke6isf | eosoal: When you do 'apt-get update', you will see several lines running by, with the server names. a Get in front of the line indicates that the server will have the Packages file downloaded from. |
| 01:41.56 | ke6isf | superkitty: It's better to do drxx. |
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| 01:42.32 | superkitty | ke6isf, never used that, can you tell me about it? |
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| 01:42.37 | ke6isf | !drxx superkitty |
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| 01:42.38 | dpkg | superkitty: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:42.39 | Ekun | dpkg, what bus should i told to the configurer? |
| 01:42.58 | ke6isf | Ekun: ...dpkg is a bot, sir. |
| 01:43.10 | Ekun | oh |
| 01:43.16 | woodland | ke6isf, i installed apt-howto-en, but how do i start it |
| 01:44.15 | eosoal | ke6isf: ok, mine says ftp://...testing/Main Packages. must 'update' always initiate a transfer? can't the system detects that there is nothing to be updated? |
| 01:44.48 | woodland | liable , r u there |
| 01:44.51 | ke6isf | eosoal: For testing, dunno. I run sarge, where the only thing updating should be security.debian.org. |
| 01:45.03 | ke6isf | woodland: It's a set of documents. Look in /usr/share/doc. |
| 01:45.10 | woodland | ok |
| 01:45.22 | ke6isf | woodland: Better yet, 'info apt-howto |
| 01:45.35 | woodland | ok |
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| 01:46.59 | eluria | is anybody here using openbox? |
| 01:47.06 | ke6isf | !polls eluria |
| 01:47.09 | ke6isf | argh |
| 01:47.11 | eluria | scuse me? |
| 01:47.14 | ke6isf | !tell eluria -about polls |
| 01:47.14 | eluria | heh |
| 01:47.20 | eluria | uhhhm |
| 01:47.31 | superkitty | eluria he is saying polls are icky |
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| 01:47.44 | EdLin | !tell eluria -about anybody |
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| 01:47.53 | eluria | yeh ok. what are polls exactly? which bot is that? |
| 01:48.10 | eluria | oh i see :) |
| 01:48.13 | eluria | sorry |
| 01:48.22 | ke6isf | And thus eluria was enlightened. =^_^= |
| 01:48.30 | eluria | any channel which handles pointless discussions like that? :) |
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| 01:48.48 | superkitty | eluria i dont use open box |
| 01:49.00 | ke6isf | !beer EdLin |
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| 01:49.17 | EdLin | eluria: one with less than 600ish users to ask a question rather than state a problem. |
| 01:49.33 | xnet | what do you recomand as a ftp client? |
| 01:49.53 | finkster | Hi there people. I'm new to linux and I wanted to know some small detail. I just booted into a new installed linux PC and wanted to know how could I log in without the need to writte user and passw..(just push the on/off button on PC) |
| 01:49.56 | eluria | EdLin: ok... |
| 01:50.12 | woodland | liable, i got this error when i typed 'apt-howto' i am posting in #flood |
| 01:50.18 | ke6isf | finkster: What version of Linux are you running? |
| 01:50.24 | finkster | deb |
| 01:50.31 | Ekun | how can i restart mi X server to aply the changes without loosing what im doing now? |
| 01:50.32 | ke6isf | finkster: ...and what version of Debian? |
| 01:50.49 | finkster | a... well I guess the newest |
| 01:50.51 | xnet | anyone? a good ftp client? |
| 01:50.53 | phogg | Ekun: that would be nice, wouldn;t it? |
| 01:50.56 | woodland | ke6isf, i got this error when i typed 'apt-howto' i am posting in #flood |
| 01:51.02 | phogg | xnet: graphical or console? |
| 01:51.02 | ke6isf | !tell xnet -about polls |
| 01:51.04 | EdLin | finkster: I think gdm and kdm have this feature. |
| 01:51.05 | finkster | it's a Diskless PC. |
| 01:51.16 | ke6isf | woodland: Try now. |
| 01:51.21 | woodland | ok |
| 01:51.22 | xnet | we got polls? |
| 01:51.26 | EdLin | finkster: not that I reccomend it |
| 01:51.31 | phogg | xnet: No. |
| 01:51.31 | finkster | well I don't want to use any of those... I just want CLI on this PC |
| 01:51.33 | xnet | phogg: i'd like one of each |
| 01:51.33 | Ekun | phogg, could i? o simply tell me how to restart it |
| 01:51.34 | ke6isf | finkster: Then it's up to your admin. |
| 01:51.43 | superkitty | finkster you can set GDM to auto log in a user |
| 01:51.47 | finkster | I'm admin :p |
| 01:51.57 | finkster | I see... |
| 01:52.03 | phogg | xnet: I use lukemftp for command line |
| 01:52.04 | ke6isf | woodland: Are you in X? Are you in as root via 'su -'? |
| 01:52.13 | woodland | ya |
| 01:52.15 | woodland | no |
| 01:52.22 | woodland | i did su |
| 01:52.23 | xnet | dig it, thanks |
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| 01:52.44 | finkster | but I wanted a minimum load on this Client... ( becuase it's a Diskless... and ..I like CLI all the way!) |
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| 01:52.49 | xnet | ke6isf, sorry didn't i can't ask sutff like that. how do i go about finding reputible software? |
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| 01:53.03 | ke6isf | woodland: Try just copy/paste for that URL into your browser of choice. |
| 01:53.12 | EdLin | xnet: lftp is probably the most featureful, but I've seen lots of exploits of it in the past. |
| 01:53.19 | ke6isf | xnet: You experiment with what's available on the repos. You *are* running Debian, aren't yo? |
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| 01:53.24 | ke6isf | s/yo/you/ |
| 01:53.47 | ke6isf | xnet: That said, I'm partial to ncftp myself. |
| 01:54.09 | eluria | oh dunno if this is a valid q: how can i start screen from within a su session? (screen can't open pts device) |
| 01:54.23 | ke6isf | eluria: Perfectly valid. |
| 01:54.23 | xnet | yes i am running debian. i actually was gonna try ncftp |
| 01:54.29 | ke6isf | !tell eluria -about ask |
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| 01:54.41 | eluria | ke6isf: hah phew :P |
| 01:54.44 | EdLin | eluria: start screen as a normal user, then make one of it's windows su'd |
| 01:55.05 | ke6isf | xnet: Like I said, just query apt-cache search ftp, and play around for what you like. |
| 01:55.10 | EdLin | eluria: always try to have the minimum of things running as root... |
| 01:55.11 | ke6isf | doh! |
| 01:56.06 | eluria | EdLin: nah i am running x as root, want to run screen as user inside that x. |
| 01:56.10 | ke6isf | Must be the weekend. |
| 01:56.35 | EdLin | eluria: you want everything to run as root? |
| 01:56.40 | ke6isf | eluria: Why in blazes are you running X as root?! |
| 01:56.41 | EdLin | !sunday |
| 01:56.41 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 01:57.03 | EdLin | looks like Sunday started early |
| 01:57.09 | ke6isf | !saturday |
| 01:57.09 | dpkg | hmm... saturday is Tardsday Eve |
| 01:57.10 | finkster | one more... nooby Question ... is it possible to do ssh on a client ( that hasn't be logged in by any user yet) and use it's "programs" like you would normaly? |
| 01:57.11 | eluria | EdLin: no sorry. i was just configuring stuff..and being behind a self-conmfigured nat makes me feel safe :) |
| 01:57.30 | ke6isf | finkster: Generally, yeah. |
| 01:57.42 | EdLin | eluria: a firewall doesn't keep you from all sorts of security issues. |
| 01:57.43 | finkster | Bravo!! |
| 01:57.52 | ke6isf | finkster: If X services are turned on, you can even run graphical stuff across the network. Just *try* doing that in Windoze. =^_^= |
| 01:58.19 | finkster | yeah! |
| 01:58.25 | danieldg | ke6isf: vnc |
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| 01:58.52 | ke6isf | danieldg: OK, just *try* doing that in right-out-of-the-box Windoze. |
| 01:58.57 | danieldg | agreed |
| 01:59.04 | eluria | EdLin: i know..but i think running windows in itself is more dangerous than running x on some slow unimportant crap box |
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| 01:59.09 | EdLin | eluria: for example, the current version of firefox has a known user exploit. Just what do you think runing it as root does, regardless of your firewall? Remote root exploit. |
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| 01:59.39 | EdLin | eluria: it doesn't matter how important you are, port scanners scan most of the network. |
| 01:59.53 | finkster | Well thing is I want to build a BeoWulf Diskless Clusters .... and I have only a few months using Deb...( that is the reason I got into Linux :) and now I love it ) |
| 01:59.58 | eluria | EdLin: true..still i like running x just for configuring some stuff...i don't usually use root |
| 02:00.18 | EdLin | eluria: run X as user and run su or sudo as-needed. |
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| 02:00.59 | eluria | EdLin: ok you convinced me :) i'll do that |
| 02:01.11 | eluria | EdLin: the basical problem remains though... |
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| 02:01.35 | rking | anyone know that little math joke that got passed around several years ago that proved that 1 = 0? |
| 02:01.41 | Mugsy_ | Whats the default downloading program in KDE |
| 02:02.00 | superkitty | rking i dont |
| 02:02.01 | EdLin | eluria: your basic screen problem has been given a solution. |
| 02:02.17 | eluria | EdLin: no that didn't work (or i have misunderstood you) |
| 02:02.22 | liable | Mugsy_: torrent downloader? |
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| 02:02.41 | EdLin | eluria: then you misunderstood me. |
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| 02:02.53 | liable | Mugsy_: there a a few, try em and see what you like.. |
| 02:02.54 | eluria | EdLin: ok let me give it another try :) |
| 02:03.05 | Azar | if I would get the new Sarge CD, and install, will automatically install X and I will be mostly using the desktop by default, or I get the choice of having installation without X then install and configure later? |
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| 02:03.33 | ke6isf | Azar: netinst? |
| 02:03.37 | EdLin | Azar: tasksel offers a "desktop" installation if you don't mind bloat. |
| 02:03.56 | eluria | EdLin: hm. ok what i did this time is start screen as user on console, then i tried to connect to it from x as su'd user...which gave me the same error |
| 02:03.58 | Azar | no, I would rather get it install from the official CD |
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| 02:04.12 | Mugsy_ | liable, no I deleted them by accident |
| 02:04.16 | EdLin | eluria: that's not what I told you. |
| 02:04.22 | Azar | I wonder how the new Sarge gets installed |
| 02:04.34 | EdLin | eluria: I told you to start it as user, then run su within screen. |
| 02:04.58 | EdLin | Azar: netinst *is* an official CD now. |
| 02:05.08 | Azar | I am currently using a Sarge upgrade over the old Woody |
| 02:05.13 | EdLin | !d-i Azar |
| 02:05.13 | eluria | EdLin: yes i know, but that was not what i originally asked |
| 02:05.14 | dpkg | Azar, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 02:05.32 | eluria | EdLin: or is that (running screen from within su) just not possible? |
| 02:05.33 | Azar | thank you EdLin |
| 02:05.44 | EdLin | Azar: but technically if you've upgraded from woody you don't need it. :-) |
| 02:06.02 | EdLin | !beer eluria |
| 02:06.07 | Mugsy_ | Whats the name of the program that Konquer uses to download stuff |
| 02:06.09 | danieldg | eluria: you could su user screen -r |
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| 02:06.22 | eluria | EdLin: arg. beer?? |
| 02:06.32 | EdLin | !wine eluria |
| 02:06.40 | eluria | stupid bots |
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| 02:06.55 | EdLin | the real question is if dpkg can pour a bourbon, a scotch, and a beer. |
| 02:07.24 | eluria | EdLin: if you hate me for asking stupid q's/being annoying please just tell me |
| 02:07.46 | ke6isf | EdLin: Probably not right now, but it's easy enough to tell him how. =^_^= |
| 02:07.51 | EdLin | eluria: I'm not good at helping people shoot themselves in the foot, sorry. :-) |
| 02:07.54 | ke6isf | eluria: The only stupid question is the one left unasked. |
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| 02:08.21 | eluria | EdLin: i make an art of doing that...i learn that way hehe |
| 02:08.24 | finkster | As far as I have looked it seems that GMD is some what related to Gui - I wanted only-CLI if I installed could I use it only in CLI mode (sorry it's silly I know :p ) |
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| 02:09.03 | ke6isf | finkster: GMD? You mean GDM? |
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| 02:09.20 | finkster | Oh yeah That! -sorry |
| 02:09.31 | liable | who wrote the debian fable? its quite good.. |
| 02:09.45 | EdLin | liable: debian fable? |
| 02:09.51 | ke6isf | !fable |
| 02:09.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fable is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
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| 02:10.00 | ke6isf | oh, hey. =^^= |
| 02:10.03 | Danar | #325188 - libflash-mozplugin: firefox pops off |
| 02:10.11 | finkster | chi... |
| 02:10.11 | Danar | wtf kind of bug is that? |
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| 02:10.25 | Danar | not very informative |
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| 02:10.41 | Zweideutig | Damn it. |
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| 02:10.51 | EdLin | brb |
| 02:11.03 | Zweideutig | When I try to boot, all I see is LI (LILO is getting stopped.) |
| 02:11.10 | Zweideutig | It was booting earlier. :\ |
| 02:11.21 | rking | Zweideutig: that means something. |
| 02:11.23 | liable | !LI |
| 02:11.23 | dpkg | if 'LI' is printed when the system is booted, it means that your drive is probably too large (OR you simply forgot to run 'lilo'). There is a Large-disk-mini-howto. Read it.. Boot the rescue disk, edit lilo.conf and add 'lba32' then try again., or (if drive geometry has changed) try booting from the rescue disk, mounting /, and rerunning lilo. Or you could try grub instead. :) Lithium, or Liechtenstein. |
| 02:11.26 | eluria | danieldg: su user screen -r gives me just the same error |
| 02:11.30 | mlalkaka | are there any features in x.org that xfree86 didn't have? |
| 02:11.32 | ke6isf | Zweideutig: What have you changed recently? |
| 02:11.36 | Zweideutig | DI have a 20 GB HDD. |
| 02:11.49 | Zweideutig | ke6isf: Just installed. |
| 02:11.59 | Zweideutig | It booted up the first time after install |
| 02:12.32 | Zweideutig | Then I wanted to reboot and it just says LI. |
| 02:12.37 | liable | Zweideutig: any reason for installing lilo? you just installed sarge or woody? |
| 02:12.40 | Zweideutig | I guess I'll get my disk out and fix it. |
| 02:12.45 | Zweideutig | Woody. |
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| 02:12.54 | cirdan | hey all |
| 02:12.57 | nvz | Danar: did you even read the bug? |
| 02:13.11 | cirdan | got my 2.6 kernel working, still a problem though... |
| 02:13.18 | liable | Zweideutig: why woody? out of interest. |
| 02:13.19 | Danar | nvz: my point is i shouldn't have to... and, i'm looking for it now |
| 02:13.28 | cirdan | nvidia kernel mod loaded, but the device nodes in /dev aren't created |
| 02:13.40 | cirdan | any idea what i did wrong? |
| 02:14.07 | Zweideutig | liable: I like stability. |
| 02:14.10 | ke6isf | Zweideutig: Woody's obsolete as of June. |
| 02:14.19 | liable | Zweideutig: sarge is stable. |
| 02:14.21 | Danar | nvz: do you know if it affects the official version of firefox? |
| 02:14.23 | LightVision | anyone used dvdbackup? is this the best or something better available? |
| 02:14.24 | Zweideutig | Well, I had this CD before June. |
| 02:14.28 | nvz | Danar: yeah its really stupid bug and someones already responded to it.. he gives a url and that dumb description and some snippet of mozilla crap its an unproducable error to anyone but him from what I can tell |
| 02:14.32 | ke6isf | Zweideutig: Explains much. =^^= |
| 02:14.48 | Danar | nvz: k, thx |
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| 02:14.57 | Mugsy_ | dpkg: error processing sdl-image_1.2.4-2_i386.deb (--install): |
| 02:14.57 | Mugsy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.04 | Danar | nvz: if firefox 'pops off' i'll let you know ;) |
| 02:15.05 | Zweideutig | This system is just to run crossover office, which will be displayed to my NetBSD machine. |
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| 02:15.11 | Mugsy_ | How do I fix this |
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| 02:15.17 | Zweideutig | Damn crossover office won't run on NetBSD or FreeBSD. |
| 02:15.37 | sweetbret | if i want to use these realtek pcmcia drivers for my wlan card, can i throw the source into a directory in /usr/src/modules and then build the kernel with module_image |
| 02:16.12 | sweetbret | and then it will be built as a module, or does that only work with specially designed module packages |
| 02:16.17 | nvz | Danar: is that bug from today I guess too? |
| 02:16.18 | Bac9 | anyone know how to enable the userlist in gdm? |
| 02:16.23 | nvz | Danar: its so fucking hilarious |
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| 02:16.42 | Danar | nvz: dunno, didn't really read it |
| 02:16.48 | Azar | if somehow the user can disable some features in firefox, I would guess it would be more secure |
| 02:17.03 | Mugsy_ | I need to remove a package and then install a new one, but there are dependencies so it wont let me remove it, but im going to install a new one right after, how do I do this? |
| 02:17.21 | CrocoJet | after make "apt-get update" with some "debs testing" .. exist one way to return to only "stable"? |
| 02:17.28 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Do it the other way? |
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| 02:18.05 | poonj | hey guys...I'm experiencing some weird trouble |
| 02:18.06 | Danar | Mugsy_: try with synaptic. it figures that stuff out and does it for you |
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| 02:18.17 | Mugsy_ | Wait, I just used --force |
| 02:18.27 | ke6isf | poonj: What's going on? |
| 02:18.31 | poonj | I'm using my computer and all of a sudden when I try to save a file, I'm getting that I can't save a file because its a "Read-only file syste" |
| 02:18.38 | poonj | whats going on? |
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| 02:19.21 | Danar | poonj: prolly crashed and something broke. i think you need to reboot and fsck |
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| 02:19.21 | ysothoth | poonj: Are you using debian? |
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| 02:19.21 | poonj | yeah |
| 02:19.22 | nvz | Danar: not only does the bug make 0 sense in "mozilla pops off" but the firefox version he lists is old, sid which his apt prefers has newer available.. but then the reply says that he cant reproduce it and shows his env as sid, but lists info for depends of libflash0 and nothing else *shrug* bunch of fruitcakes |
| 02:19.22 | ke6isf | ysothoth: What version? |
| 02:19.22 | ysothoth | Are you sure you aren't using knoppix? |
| 02:19.22 | poonj | damn it |
| 02:19.22 | Danar | poonj: i've had that, and it locked the file system to prevent corruption |
| 02:19.22 | EdLin | poonj: an NTFS windows drive? That's read-only |
| 02:19.22 | poonj | no no |
| 02:19.22 | poonj | its a ext3 FS |
| 02:19.22 | CrocoJet | hello eveyone |
| 02:19.24 | Zweideutig | WTF |
| 02:19.29 | Zweideutig | I think my HDD just died. |
| 02:19.29 | poonj | okay |
| 02:19.31 | ysothoth | poonj: Ok just checking :) |
| 02:19.32 | CrocoJet | after make "apt-get update" with some "debs testing" .. exist one way to return to only "stable"? (repository) |
| 02:19.36 | Danar | nvz: heh. oh well |
| 02:19.38 | poonj | I'll fsck |
| 02:19.41 | ke6isf | Zweideutig: ouch... |
| 02:19.41 | Zweideutig | Western Digital you died. :( |
| 02:19.43 | Mugsy_ | Whats a program in debian that downloads stuff from the browser? |
| 02:19.45 | poonj | do I boot in single mode? |
| 02:19.54 | ysothoth | poonj: That'd be a good idea yes |
| 02:19.54 | poonj | or is it possible to automate it during startup? |
| 02:19.55 | Danar | poonj: yeh, mine too |
| 02:20.05 | Zweideutig | I can't mount /dev/hda1 (my root) from the CD> |
| 02:20.16 | EdLin | !permasunday |
| 02:20.16 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 02:20.17 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: What are you trying to do? |
| 02:20.20 | poonj | brb |
| 02:20.25 | Danar | poonj: it should automatically check when you restart |
| 02:20.26 | nvz | Danar: sad part is it looks like it was filed today and idiot didnt even update first before filing a stupid bug, then someone files a stupid reply without realizing it. |
| 02:20.44 | Danar | nvz: well, i'm sure it'll be cleared up soon |
| 02:20.45 | ke6isf | !september |
| 02:20.45 | dpkg | hmm... september is http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=38678b4b.4522355%40supernews.sirius.com&output=gplain, or well, one could add that christmas is worst nowadays |
| 02:21.01 | ysothoth | Can you touch /forcefsck in debian? Or is that not recognized? |
| 02:21.02 | LightVision | Mugsy_: d4x |
| 02:21.03 | Zweideutig | And cfdisk can't read my partition table. |
| 02:21.04 | Mugsy_ | ke6isf: I deleted all of them, I need to install it again |
| 02:21.09 | Zweideutig | Does it sound like the HDD is bad? |
| 02:21.10 | EdLin | ke6isf: it's always September in Usenet now. |
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| 02:21.16 | LightVision | Mugsy_: d4x does what you seek to do! it works great |
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| 02:21.24 | ke6isf | EdLin: It's always September somewhere out here. =O.o= |
| 02:21.37 | LightVision | Mugsy_: d4x = download manager that integrates into Firefox |
| 02:21.37 | EdLin | ke6isf: I should add in the net in general. :-) |
| 02:21.53 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Yes, but what are you trying to do? |
| 02:22.25 | Danar | nvz: well, i updated and flash still works for me... but then i'm using the official version rather than the deb package |
| 02:22.28 | rking | is there a way to do direct input of unicode chars? in a mac, you can set your "keyboard layout" to unicode-direct and type, say, 00a0 and get a non-breaking space. is there an xmodmap/Multi_key equivalent? I can do it in vim with ^Vu00a0, which is cool... but meh |
| 02:22.41 | Danar | nvz: either way, thanks. later |
| 02:22.50 | ke6isf | The gormless are out in full force tonight... |
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| 02:23.01 | Danar | LightVision: it does? |
| 02:23.11 | Mugsy_ | ke6isf: I need it for when I download stuff with Konquer |
| 02:23.12 | Danar | LightVision: how? |
| 02:23.13 | LightVision | ke6isf: -i device where device is your dvd device. What is the device for my dvd drive? |
| 02:23.13 | EdLin | Mugsy_: in Debian we use aptitude, synaptic, or plain apt-get to install most programs, not the browser. This is one of the things that distinguishes Debian from other distros. (Well, yes, now they run apt or its immitators too, but their repositories are much smaller.) |
| 02:23.18 | LightVision | Danar: yes indeed |
| 02:23.32 | nvz | Danar: why was yours "poping off" too? :P |
| 02:23.43 | LightVision | Mugsy_: use firefox |
| 02:23.46 | Danar | nvz: heh, nope |
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| 02:23.56 | Danar | LightVision: ... i'm using it right now :p |
| 02:24.02 | ke6isf | Mugsy_: Try Firefox and use some plugins. |
| 02:24.05 | Danar | LightVision: how do you integrate it though? |
| 02:24.07 | ke6isf | LightVision: ...eh? I need some context. |
| 02:24.13 | LightVision | Danar: use good to search d4x and firefox intergration |
| 02:24.30 | LightVision | ke6isf: its ok i worked it out :) |
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| 02:24.34 | LightVision | bbl |
| 02:24.42 | Danar | uh oh... firefox just 'popped off' i think :p |
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| 02:24.49 | Danar | i opened prefs, and now it's hung |
| 02:24.49 | ke6isf | 'popped off'? |
| 02:24.58 | hyperstream | hmm is it possible to use an application like deamontools, or fantom cd (emulates ISO cd images) makes the OS believe its mounted. |
| 02:25.05 | Danar | ke6isf: "#325188 - libflash-mozplugin: firefox pops off" |
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| 02:25.31 | nvz | bugs.debian.org/325188 |
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| 02:25.46 | Danar | hyperstream: you can mount an image... |
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| 02:26.50 | Danar | hyperstream: mount -t udf -o loop /path/to/image.iso /mnt/image |
| 02:26.56 | Zweideutig | Okay, I got it mounted. |
| 02:27.08 | ke6isf | Danar: Looks like it's just etch and sarge. I'm fine I 'spose. |
| 02:27.29 | Zweideutig | When I do lilo, it says 'GLIBC_PRIVATE' not found. |
| 02:27.33 | Danar | ke6isf: sorry? |
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| 02:27.45 | hyperstream | thanks Danar |
| 02:27.53 | Danar | hyperstream: np |
| 02:27.54 | Zweideutig | After the system wouldn't boot, I tried lilo from the install CD and that happens. |
| 02:28.04 | Zweideutig | The HDD seems okay. |
| 02:28.26 | ke6isf | Danar: That firefox bug you passed me. |
| 02:28.29 | Danar | hyperstream: man mount ;) |
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| 02:28.47 | Danar | ke6isf: that was just explaining my reference... i don't even know your problem... sorry |
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| 02:29.05 | ke6isf | Danar: There is no problem. |
| 02:29.27 | Danar | "Looks like it's just etch and sarge. I'm fine I 'spose." |
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| 02:29.52 | Danar | that last bit seemed to imply you did |
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| 02:32.05 | Zweideutig | Okay, I fixed the booting problem. |
| 02:32.17 | Zweideutig | Primary IDE controller died. |
| 02:32.18 | EdLin | woodland: cut that out |
| 02:32.40 | xsquared | can anyone think of a good computery domain name off the top of your head? i can't think of anything :'-( |
| 02:32.50 | Zweideutig | xsquared: ro |
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| 02:33.00 | Danar | xsquared: 'computery domain name'? |
| 02:33.02 | Zweideutig | xsquared: sux |
| 02:33.02 | EdLin | xsquared: tk |
| 02:33.05 | xsquared | lol |
| 02:33.08 | Zweideutig | xsquared: us |
| 02:33.26 | Zweideutig | xsquared: crt, lan, lcd, cpu |
| 02:33.35 | Phated | nux. |
| 02:33.38 | Zweideutig | Try those. ;) |
| 02:33.44 | Zweideutig | And tux |
| 02:33.45 | xsquared | thnx |
| 02:33.46 | Danar | Zweideutig: those are computer terms, not domain names... |
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| 02:33.53 | Zweideutig | Danar: I know. |
| 02:34.01 | sofia | need help with vhcs |
| 02:34.05 | Phated | Eh, nux.com is perfectly respectable. |
| 02:34.08 | sofia | i cant get it to create users |
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| 02:34.46 | sofia | someone knows vhcs? |
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| 02:35.10 | xsquared | konqueror crashed this morning multiple times and i got the idea of segfault.. i wanted segfault.net/org/com but they are taken |
| 02:35.34 | EdLin | Danar: the best usage of .tk I've seen is wiki.tcl.tk :-) |
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| 02:35.52 | sofia | how do i create users un vhcs with dynamic ip |
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| 02:36.11 | Zweideutig | sofia: Virtual hosting control system? |
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| 02:36.25 | woodland | ke6isf , r u still there |
| 02:36.29 | Zweideutig | sofia: RTFM: http://vhcs.net/new/modules/phpwiki/ |
| 02:36.31 | EdLin | !r |
| 02:36.31 | dpkg | i heard r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
| 02:36.33 | EdLin | !u |
| 02:36.34 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 02:37.25 | sofia | yes |
| 02:37.29 | woodland | i am posting the error i get while installing cisco client for wireless , in #flood |
| 02:37.32 | Zweideutig | Hahaha |
| 02:37.37 | Zweideutig | Damn elite speakers. |
| 02:37.40 | sofia | i does not work |
| 02:37.46 | sofia | have no use for tha info |
| 02:38.05 | EdLin | !does not work |
| 02:38.06 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 02:38.12 | Danar | Zweideutig: you mean leet? |
| 02:39.21 | woodland | can anybody help me with the error message i am getting while installing cisco client |
| 02:39.35 | Zweideutig | Dewi: No, elite. |
| 02:40.15 | Danar | Zweideutig: so you're complaining about EdLin? |
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| 02:40.48 | Danar | Zweideutig: or do you actually mean leet ;) |
| 02:40.49 | woodland | hi sofia |
| 02:40.57 | Danar | EdLin: nothing |
| 02:41.02 | Zweideutig | Danar: Leet. |
| 02:41.07 | ardy | is there a room for gcc? |
| 02:41.16 | Zweideutig | ardy: Not physically. |
| 02:41.27 | woodland | ardy can u help me |
| 02:41.31 | Danar | Zweideutig: thoguht so. :) it's short for leetspeak, so technically 'elite speakers' isn't correct |
| 02:41.39 | Zweideutig | Okay. |
| 02:41.42 | ardy | woodland: whats the problem? |
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| 02:41.50 | Zweideutig | woodland: u: No such user. |
| 02:41.52 | woodland | can anybody help me with the error message i am getting while installing cisco client |
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| 02:42.02 | Zweideutig | ardy: #gcc |
| 02:42.10 | EdLin | woodland: don't let me sic !u on you. :-) |
| 02:42.20 | ardy | Zweideutig: thanks |
| 02:42.23 | woodland | edlin, what happened |
| 02:42.59 | EdLin | !tell woodland -about u |
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| 02:43.54 | woodland | sorry edlin |
| 02:44.13 | EdLin | woodland: np |
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| 02:44.37 | Danar | !np |
| 02:44.38 | dpkg | hmm... np is "no problem", or "null pointer", or "no pants", or non-deterministically polynomial, or ¡ningún problema!, or "Now Playing", an abbreviation used by those lame mIRC/WinAmp plugins |
| 02:44.45 | Danar | heh |
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| 02:44.51 | ke6isf | EdLin: Hey, could be worse. Could be *willful* noobs. |
| 02:44.53 | Danar | seems like dpkg has everything |
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| 02:45.12 | ke6isf | !kitchen sink |
| 02:45.12 | dpkg | everything |
| 02:45.21 | ke6isf | Danar: Hey, you're right! |
| 02:45.23 | Fredz | anyone using cdrecord with sid and an IDE CD writer without problems ? |
| 02:45.26 | Danar | :p |
| 02:45.30 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 02:45.31 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 02:45.34 | sigma957 | Fredz: yes |
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| 02:45.45 | Fredz | sigma957: what command line do you use ? |
| 02:46.16 | sigma957 | oh I don't use it directly. doesn't k3b use those tools? |
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| 02:46.44 | Fredz | I guess so, but I haven't it installed and can't install it |
| 02:46.48 | Danar | sigma957: did you run k3b as root first? |
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| 02:47.24 | Fredz | but cdrecord and nautils-cd-burner fail to write CDs on my machine |
| 02:47.27 | Danar | sigma957: someone told me to do that once, and it solved some problems i was having with it. after that you should be able to use it fine as normal user, as long as you have permissions |
| 02:47.31 | Fredz | and it worked a month ago... |
| 02:47.34 | sigma957 | Danar: no, just ran it. I have one dvd drive and a burner. Just picked the right one |
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| 02:47.44 | Zweideutig | Fredz: What changed in a month? |
| 02:48.03 | Fredz | Zweideutig: cdrecord, gnome and kernel updates I guess |
| 02:48.05 | Zweideutig | Fredz: Within the last month, did you put ham and cheese in your CD drive? |
| 02:48.09 | Zweideutig | Fredz: Ah. |
| 02:48.17 | Fredz | no, only CDs :) |
| 02:48.21 | Danar | Zweideutig: o.O |
| 02:48.41 | Danar | reminds me of some tech support horror stories ;p |
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| 02:48.50 | Zweideutig | Fredz: Try kernel 2.4. |
| 02:49.01 | Zweideutig | Danar: I do tech support. |
| 02:49.06 | Dewi | how do I stop gdm from attempting to start each boot?> |
| 02:49.08 | Danar | 2.4 is evil |
| 02:49.08 | Fredz | it did work before with a 2.6 kernel... |
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| 02:49.25 | Zweideutig | Fredz: Then roll back to the kernel that worked. |
| 02:49.28 | Danar | Dewi: dpkg-reconfigure gmd |
| 02:49.31 | Fredz | man update-rc.d |
| 02:49.32 | Danar | *gdm |
| 02:49.54 | Fredz | Zweideutig: I don't know if it's the kernel, gnome or cdrecord |
| 02:49.56 | hyperstream | Danar, its saying wrong filesystem. how can i tell what filesystem a .iso is? |
| 02:49.59 | hyperstream | its a cd image |
| 02:50.11 | Danar | hyperstream: file image.iso |
| 02:50.13 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: iso9660 |
| 02:50.15 | Dewi | on boot my machine says it' |
| 02:50.21 | Fredz | I tried prev version of cdrecord and nautilus-cd-burner without success though |
| 02:50.30 | dabaRCo | so, update-rc.d gdm remove will remove it from boot scripts, fredz? |
| 02:50.33 | Zweideutig | Fredz: What would gnome have to do with it? |
| 02:50.33 | Dewi | on boot my machine says it's starting appletalk and it'll take a while; and it does. How do I remove this protocol which is useless to me? |
| 02:50.39 | Fredz | dabaRCo: yep |
| 02:50.49 | Zweideutig | Fredz: You run cdrecord from command line, don't you? |
| 02:50.52 | Dewi | I'm not sure what causes appletalk to start... could it be cups? |
| 02:50.59 | Fredz | Zweideutig: yes, I do |
| 02:51.05 | Danar | hyperstream: right, that was for dvd, sorry. iso9660 for cd |
| 02:51.17 | Zweideutig | Fredz: Then what does gnome have to do with it? |
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| 02:51.19 | hyperstream | hyper:/home/hyperstream/bob/keep/Diablo# file /home/hyperstream/bob/keep/Diablo/Diablo2INSTALLDISC..img |
| 02:51.21 | hyperstream | /home/hyperstream/bob/keep/Diablo/Diablo2INSTALLDISC..img: data |
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| 02:51.30 | hyperstream | i tryed iso9660 also |
| 02:51.33 | Zweideutig | Fredz: Roll back kernel and cdrecord versions. |
| 02:51.40 | Fredz | Zweideutig: I tried with gnome before, when it failed I tried with cdrecod |
| 02:51.45 | Fredz | s/cod/cord |
| 02:51.47 | Danar | hyperstream: you have .cue files for those? |
| 02:51.51 | Dewi | Danar: when I reconfigure gdm, it just says "Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration.". Doesn't ask questions. |
| 02:51.53 | hyperstream | mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/hyperstream/bob/keep/Diablo/Diablo2INSTALLDISC..img /mnt/cdrom2 |
| 02:52.06 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: Tried |
| 02:52.12 | Fredz | Zweideutig: ok, will try that, thanks |
| 02:52.13 | Danar | Dewi: ah, thought you wanted to choose another. to what Fredz said then |
| 02:52.16 | hyperstream | no i have .sub .img .ccd |
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| 02:52.20 | Zweideutig | Fredz: Okay. |
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| 02:52.21 | Danar | *do what |
| 02:52.24 | Fredz | cya guys |
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| 02:52.49 | Danar | hyardley: try mounting the ccd instead |
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| 02:52.55 | hyperstream | okies |
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| 02:53.17 | hyperstream | same error. wrong filesystem |
| 02:53.24 | hyperstream | tried the sub too |
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| 02:53.38 | Danar | hyperstream: sub would be subtitles |
| 02:53.42 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: Are you sure that the file is not corrupted? |
| 02:54.02 | hyperstream | Zweideutig, positive |
| 02:54.09 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: Heh. |
| 02:54.56 | Dewi | when I "update-rc.d gdm remove" it says "/etc/init.d/gdm exists during rc.d purge" |
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| 02:55.19 | hyperstream | isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=loop1, iso_blknum=16, block=32 |
| 02:55.21 | hyperstream | Unable to identify CD-ROM format |
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| 02:55.23 | Danar | hyperstream: convert it to an iso first |
| 02:55.40 | Dewi | I don't quite understand - of course it exists. If it didn't, I wouldn't need to remove it. |
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| 02:55.49 | vladuz976 | anybody know how to copy dvds to harddrive? |
| 02:55.51 | hyperstream | ahh i see, how would i go about that in linux |
| 02:55.53 | Dewi | Or is "purge" a type of rc.d event? |
| 02:56.08 | Zweideutig | vladuz976: Does anyone know? |
| 02:56.19 | Danar | vladuz976: dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/image.iso |
| 02:56.30 | Zweideutig | vladuz976: This isn't #piracy-help |
| 02:56.34 | Zweideutig | heh |
| 02:56.40 | Danar | Zweideutig: who said anything about piracy? |
| 02:56.45 | vladuz976 | Danar, isn't there stuff that prevents from copying? |
| 02:56.59 | Zweideutig | vladuz976: But I'll assume you aren't about to put up a DVD. |
| 02:57.03 | Danar | vladuz976: worked for me |
| 02:57.06 | ke6isf | vladuz976: What's the application? |
| 02:57.16 | ke6isf | !tell vladuz976 -about marillat |
| 02:57.18 | Danar | Zweideutig: backups fall under fair use |
| 02:57.24 | Zweideutig | Danar: True. |
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| 02:57.39 | Zweideutig | Danar: But they'll strip that right away if they can. |
| 02:57.43 | ke6isf | Danar: Good luck trying to convince the *AA of that. =^^= |
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| 02:58.01 | Danar | ke6isf: they know... they just don't want others to ;p |
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| 02:58.15 | vladuz976 | Danar, you copied the image with dd to your hard drive? |
| 02:58.22 | Danar | vladuz976: yeh |
| 02:58.25 | ke6isf | Danar: True, they're trying to close the can of worms now. |
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| 02:58.36 | vladuz976 | Danar, was it a movie? |
| 02:58.36 | Danar | vladuz976: then you can mount it and watch it |
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| 02:58.54 | Danar | vladuz976: it was an image of the dvd. when mounted it sees it as a dvd drive |
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| 02:59.02 | Zweideutig | Heh. |
| 02:59.05 | Danar | vladuz976: with the dvd in it |
| 02:59.13 | Zweideutig | DVDs are only good for data storage. |
| 02:59.18 | vladuz976 | Danar, cool, so i won't run into problems with copyrigt stuff? |
| 02:59.22 | Zweideutig | But even then I just use HDDs for that. |
| 02:59.24 | Danar | of course, it still has the copy protections in place |
| 02:59.31 | hyperstream | Danar, perhaps im better off burning the .img files to cd ? |
| 02:59.31 | Danar | vladuz976: try it and see :p |
| 02:59.33 | hyperstream | :P |
| 02:59.50 | hyperstream | it doesnt worry me its a back up of my originals that got stratched up |
| 02:59.54 | Danar | hyperstream: why not just convert to .iso? then you can mount it |
| 03:00.05 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: How is that going to solve the problem if the image's file system isn't recognized? |
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| 03:00.22 | hyperstream | i just did a google on: 'convert .img to .iso linux' |
| 03:00.27 | hyperstream | not much there |
| 03:00.37 | hyperstream | umm Zweideutig because it'll be a proper cdrom ? |
| 03:00.40 | Dewi | when I "update-rc.d gdm remove" it says "/etc/init.d/gdm exists during rc.d purge". What does that message mean/ |
| 03:00.43 | Dewi | ? |
| 03:00.53 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: Heh. |
| 03:01.03 | Danar | hyperstream: might get better results searching with google linux |
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| 03:01.13 | Danar | hyperstream: google.com/linux |
| 03:01.26 | hyperstream | wow |
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| 03:01.32 | hyperstream | hows that for google. gooo gooogle |
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| 03:01.36 | Danar | hyperstream: ? i told you about it before... |
| 03:01.45 | Danar | guess you forgot |
| 03:01.50 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: That has been there for years, it isn't new. |
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| 03:02.10 | Zweideutig | hyperstream: Also check out Google Microsoft and Google BSD. |
| 03:02.13 | Danar | hyperstream: google is better than you think ;) |
| 03:02.25 | Danar | uh, forget google MS :P |
| 03:02.35 | Danar | hyperstream: do you remember googleguide.com ? |
| 03:02.36 | EdLin | of course, google uses Linux on their servers. :-) |
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| 03:03.00 | vladuz976 | Danar, then i mount it with "mount /path/to/image.iso" ? |
| 03:03.09 | Danar | vladuz976: not quite |
| 03:03.14 | Zweideutig | My personal favourite: http://www.google.com/bsd |
| 03:03.14 | Danar | vladuz976: man mount |
| 03:03.27 | hyperstream | yes |
| 03:03.28 | vladuz976 | Danar, yeah but i don't know the filesystem for the dvd |
| 03:03.32 | hyperstream | i do |
| 03:03.51 | Danar | mount -t udf -o loop /path/to/image.iso /mnt/image |
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| 03:04.24 | vladuz976 | Danar, what is udf? |
| 03:04.31 | Danar | vladuz976: dvd file system |
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| 03:04.47 | Danar | vladuz976: it's in man mount... |
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| 03:06.02 | vladuz976 | Danar, so what is loop for? |
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| 03:06.10 | Danar | vladuz976: there are certain copy protections on some dvds that cause dd to error out, but if you read the dvd with a dvd player app, it usually 'unlocks' it, then dd will work |
| 03:06.15 | Danar | vladuz976: loopback |
| 03:06.15 | Mugsy_ | I am installing all the stuff that aptitude wants me to, and when I go to the start menu, there is no programs, is this normal (its still installing) |
| 03:06.45 | Danar | debian has a start menu? :P |
| 03:06.47 | vladuz976 | Danar, yes, but what do you mean? read it with let;s say mplayer and then in a terminal do the dd? |
| 03:06.58 | Mugsy_ | Yea the application menu |
| 03:06.59 | Azar | Start menu? in Debian? wow |
| 03:06.59 | Danar | vladuz976: yeh |
| 03:07.09 | hyperstream | still not much luck |
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| 03:07.38 | Danar | vladuz976: i found dd kept having errors reading the dvd until i played a few seconds of it in xine first. then it was fine |
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| 03:07.53 | Sepultina | hiho |
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| 03:08.01 | xsquared | hohi |
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| 03:08.49 | Phated | It's off to work we go? |
| 03:09.03 | ke6isf | Phated: On a Saturday? Surely you jest. |
| 03:09.13 | Phated | Sunday, and they started it. |
| 03:09.37 | Mugsy_ | If im in a program and its full screen, how do I exit it? |
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| 03:09.56 | Danar | Mugsy_: try alt+tab? |
| 03:10.13 | Danar | Mugsy_: the app should have a key combo for that. 'f' maybe? |
| 03:10.30 | rking | is there a factoid that will get me to the real deal on ^H vs ^? ? |
| 03:10.37 | Danar | Mugsy_: if it's frozen or something, you can drop to a terminal and kill it |
| 03:11.04 | Danar | Mugsy_: ctrl+alt+f1 for terminal 1, f2 for t2, etc. f9 is back to gui |
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| 03:12.17 | lakcaj | What would be the prefered way to configure alsa without alsaconf? What is it that alsaconf actually does, such as the files it changes? I'd like to be able to help the ubuntu guys when they have audio issues, but ubuntu removed alsaconf. |
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| 03:12.54 | lakcaj | Danar, f7 is back to GUI |
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| 03:13.02 | Danar | lakcaj: not for me |
| 03:13.16 | gratuit | does the install cd have the madwifi drivers for atheros chipset wifi cards? |
| 03:13.37 | gratuit | I want to install from cd, but will I be able to get wireless working? |
| 03:13.48 | jdhutchin1 | gratuit, no, it doesn't |
| 03:13.49 | kevix | Mugsy_, just a guess. there was a recent issue with KDE in unstable that affected it menus. |
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| 03:14.10 | jdhutchin1 | gratuit, you can install via a chroot install from a livecd that does have the drivers, like knoppix and its friends |
| 03:14.21 | Mugsy_ | I got the menu's back |
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| 03:14.54 | Danar | Mugsy_: if you're using KDE, you can hit ctrl+alt+esc and your mouse cursor should turn into a skull and crossbones, then you can click a window to kill it |
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| 03:15.52 | kevix | Danar, is that like 'xkill'? is there a Gnome equivilant? |
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| 03:16.02 | Danar | kevix: not sure... |
| 03:16.10 | Danar | i found it by accident |
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| 03:16.51 | woodland | hi, when i boot in kernel 2.6.8 after few min, i am disconnected from net, now i am in kernel 2.4.27 |
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| 03:17.09 | woodland | i can post the errors i got in #flodd |
| 03:17.11 | spldart | recomendations for web browser? |
| 03:17.14 | woodland | #flood |
| 03:17.15 | Danar | firefox |
| 03:17.29 | EdLin | spldart: aptitude install mozilla-firefox |
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| 03:17.46 | Danar | EdLin: deb ff = evilness :p |
| 03:17.51 | spldart | debian netinst, xwindow, flux, apache2, samba, bzfs and trying to stay minimal in general |
| 03:18.00 | woodland | liable, r u there |
| 03:18.05 | spldart | old slow machine |
| 03:18.14 | EdLin | !r |
| 03:18.15 | dpkg | hmm... r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
| 03:18.17 | EdLin | !u |
| 03:18.17 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:18.37 | Danar | spldart: elinks? ;) |
| 03:18.48 | spldart | ? |
| 03:18.51 | EdLin | Danar: yeah, I wish they would increment their version number when neccsary. |
| 03:19.10 | Danar | spldart: you said it's an old slow system, and asked for browser recommendations... elinks :) |
| 03:19.28 | spldart | sorry... forgot how fast this channel moves |
| 03:19.29 | Danar | if that's too minimal... then firefox |
| 03:19.30 | CaT[tm] | hmmm |
| 03:19.32 | CaT[tm] | !a |
| 03:19.32 | dpkg | [a] UK's best rock band :) |
| 03:19.32 | kevix | spldart. I use kazehakase |
| 03:19.37 | CaT[tm] | hah |
| 03:20.07 | spldart | k6 2 500 at 450, 256 meg, 1.7 gig master, 4 gig slave |
| 03:20.09 | Azar | any new user on Debian here? |
| 03:20.15 | Danar | ff is fine |
| 03:20.19 | spldart | I need small apps in general |
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| 03:20.33 | Danar | ff too big? |
| 03:20.41 | spldart | elinks sounds cool |
| 03:20.43 | spldart | lemme google |
| 03:20.50 | Danar | elinks = no gui |
| 03:20.54 | EdLin | spldart: mozilla-firefox is about an 8 meg download |
| 03:20.57 | spldart | at all? |
| 03:21.01 | Danar | but if you want it, apt-get install elinks |
| 03:21.08 | Danar | spldart: i did warn you ;p |
| 03:21.14 | woodland | hi, when i boot in kernel 2.6.8 after few min, i am disconnected from net, now i am in kernel 2.4.27 |
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| 03:21.19 | EdLin | spldart: right, elinks is a text www browser |
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| 03:21.36 | woodland | hi danar |
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| 03:22.13 | kevix | spldart, if you want text, use a text browser: elinks,links,lynx Its great for reading google or news sites |
| 03:22.19 | woodland | hi kevix |
| 03:22.33 | kevix | spldart, maybe even try dillo ! |
| 03:22.34 | EdLin | spldart: try links2 for a links that has graphics as an option (links -g) |
| 03:22.36 | spldart | elinks is definitley a bit to minimal |
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| 03:22.51 | lakcaj | Danar, if f7 isn't back to GUI for you, then either you are running more than one xserver, or you have specified that the xserver is to initialize is a non-standard way. |
| 03:22.53 | Danar | there's a very minimal gui one called dillo... personally i hate it though :p |
| 03:22.55 | kevix | Hi Woodland! What's up. |
| 03:23.15 | woodland | kevix, hi, when i boot in kernel 2.6.8 after few min, i am disconnected from net, now i am in kernel 2.4.27 |
| 03:23.16 | spldart | but I don't need IE, java, loaded version |
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| 03:23.35 | Danar | lakcaj: just one, and i wouldn't know how to specify anything nonstandard for it |
| 03:23.35 | spldart | CHECKING firefox now |
| 03:23.54 | Draal | Howdy.. I'm looking for a list of PCMCIA cards that are natively supported by Debian |
| 03:23.56 | kevix | woodland, have you been using 2.4.27 before and now you upgraded to 2.6.8? |
| 03:24.01 | woodland | yes |
| 03:24.13 | Danar | spldart: firefox is the best, and your system can certainly handle it |
| 03:24.16 | deadcat | Draal: aint no list |
| 03:24.30 | kevix | woodland, anything in your /var/log/messages that might give a clue |
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| 03:24.39 | Danar | spldart: you can only do so much at once with such a system anyway. firefox will run fine on it |
| 03:24.46 | Draal | deadcat: then how do I check to see if a card is supported before I buy it? |
| 03:24.48 | woodland | let me check kevix |
| 03:25.00 | deadcat | Draal: if it works on linux. it works on debian |
| 03:25.15 | Draal | deadcat: How do I know it works on Linux? |
| 03:25.21 | spldart | the system will mostly just be sitting there with the monitor off... serving files on apache2, linked to the winows boxen on samba and hosting bzflag on the web |
| 03:25.22 | Danar | Draal: there's a few sites for that.. |
| 03:25.31 | Draal | Danar: Links? |
| 03:25.33 | Dewi | how can I get a sun java 1.5 JVM in debian (testing)? |
| 03:25.33 | woodland | kevix, its a huge file |
| 03:25.37 | Danar | Draal: google 'linux hardware compatibility' |
| 03:25.47 | Draal | Thanks |
| 03:25.48 | Danar | Draal: minus quotes |
| 03:25.51 | lakcaj | !tell Dewi about java-package |
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| 03:26.31 | woodland | kevix, r u there |
| 03:26.31 | Dewi | lakcaj: I've read all around that stuff. There's nothing about how to get Sun JVM. Blackdown is pretty out of date now. |
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| 03:27.08 | Danar | Dewi: you can download the self-extracting bin from the java site, and install it that way |
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| 03:27.19 | Dewi | lakcaj: aah sorry, no that is a different dpkg factoid |
| 03:27.20 | lakcaj | Dewi, it's right in the factoid... go to sun's site, download it, and use make-jpkg to create a .deb |
| 03:27.21 | Dewi | lakcaj: sorry |
| 03:27.24 | lakcaj | np |
| 03:27.32 | Danar | Dewi: or you might try sablevm to avoid licensing issues or some such |
| 03:27.54 | Dewi | Danar: I want desktop apps this time, so the java trap is unavoidable for now |
| 03:28.02 | kevix | woodland, normally you only look at the last 50 (or 100 lines) it should show 'Sep 8 20:34:47 debian kernel: Linux version 2.6.11-1-686 ' |
| 03:28.19 | Danar | Dewi: sablevm is a free version of the java vm... should be a suitable replacement |
| 03:28.19 | woodland | ok let me check |
| 03:29.11 | kevix | woodland, just out of curiosity: dialup, dsl or cable? |
| 03:29.23 | woodland | kevix, i am newbie, all that file content doesnt make sense to me, its cable |
| 03:29.40 | spldart | mozilla-firefox? |
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| 03:29.47 | EdLin | spldart: yes |
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| 03:30.25 | kevix | woodland, ok. The problem maybe related to an ethernet card driver. What one do you have? |
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| 03:30.31 | liable | woodland: i would boot into it, and when it goes offline, look at the end of the file for any messages regarding the nic |
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| 03:30.54 | lakcaj | dmesg might also have some info |
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| 03:31.30 | woodland | kevix, my internet works very fine in kernel 2.4.27 anyway i have realtek ethernet card |
| 03:31.43 | kevix | Draal, if you can't find any info, try searching and then asking on debian-user mailing list. |
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| 03:31.50 | woodland | liable , what is nic |
| 03:32.02 | Draal | Kevix: Thank you |
| 03:32.03 | liable | network interface |
| 03:32.03 | spldart | thanks edlin |
| 03:32.14 | EdLin | spldart: np |
| 03:32.17 | kevix | woodland, nic network interface card = ethernet card... |
| 03:32.20 | liable | woodland: the card.. |
| 03:32.27 | woodland | ok |
| 03:32.57 | Dewi | Danar: sure, it probably would - but I'd still need a Sun API. |
| 03:33.12 | Danar | why? |
| 03:33.12 | Mask | Why would trying to insert the ndiswrapper module give me an "Operation not permitted" message? |
| 03:33.21 | Dewi | Danar: because GNU classpath has poor desktop/graphical support |
| 03:33.46 | kevix | woodland, hmm. realtek is a well known card. although folks note its not 'hi quality'. Not sure what might cause the difference when you upgraded the kernel. |
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| 03:34.20 | woodland | so, liable can i email you my /var/log/messages file, maybe u can tell something |
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| 03:34.39 | lakcaj | !pastebin |
| 03:34.39 | dpkg | i heard pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca |
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| 03:34.45 | woodland | kevix, i can email u my /var/log/messages |
| 03:35.04 | lakcaj | woodland, /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 03:35.08 | Dewi | when I try to run "synaptic" and other root tools, I get asked for the root passwd. I am a sudoer - is there a way to get gnome to sudo me instead? |
| 03:35.20 | Draal | 3com is well supported under Linux, right? |
| 03:35.30 | Draal | I'm looking at brands of PCMCIA cards.. |
| 03:36.27 | Mugsy_ | My computer is fucked, a lot of my software is deleted and I cant use tasksel to get them back |
| 03:36.32 | Mugsy_ | Cause aptitude deleted them all |
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| 03:38.25 | kevix | woodland, I'd use the 2.4 for a week and see if any problems occur. If yes, then its something else. If it goes away, then its a kernel issue. Have you thought of getting 2.6.11? |
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| 03:38.40 | lakcaj | Draal, in general, it is the chip that is supported or not, not the manufacturer, so you can't just say, "Yes, buy a 3com card". You can look here http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php for some supported cards |
| 03:39.13 | joesboxd3b | can someone help me test my new irssi script... just use my nick in a msg |
| 03:39.13 | lakcaj | Draal, one thing to consider is the WG511v2 is not the same as the version 1. People have had alot of issues with the v2. |
| 03:39.15 | Draal | lakcaj, Thank you.. That was what I was looking for |
| 03:39.26 | woodland | kevix, so should i uninstall 2.6.8 |
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| 03:39.37 | Draal | Alright.. Usually find that one or two hardware vendors are better supported |
| 03:39.42 | rking | no-can-do, joesboxd3b |
| 03:39.44 | lakcaj | Draal, I have read that most Cisco cards are well supported. |
| 03:39.50 | Mugsy_ | Can I keep all my stuff in /home/ and reinstall? |
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| 03:39.53 | joesboxd3b | rking: thanks |
| 03:39.57 | Draal | Thank.. Just looking for a modem card for dialup |
| 03:40.02 | joesboxd3b | back to the drawing board |
| 03:40.04 | joesboxd3b | later |
| 03:40.23 | UnKnowN_ | How do you install .deb things? |
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| 03:40.27 | lakcaj | dpkg -i |
| 03:40.29 | UnKnowN_ | dpkg isn't it? |
| 03:40.31 | UnKnowN_ | yeah |
| 03:41.20 | Mugsy_ | Is it possible to put /home on a different partition without deleting it? |
| 03:41.26 | kevix | woodland, no. you do not need to uninstall it, just edit your /etc/lilo.conf to point to the other kernel. but lilo.conf should have made 2.4 'linuxOLD' or the like. so you just have to switch the labels. |
| 03:41.30 | chance2105 | Is vesafb some level of broken in Sarge's kernel? |
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| 03:42.04 | lakcaj | Mugsy_, of course. Mount the other partition, cp your current home over to it, unmount your home, and remount it on the new partition. |
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| 03:42.16 | Thanatermesis | lynx: Can't access startfile http://localhost/ <---- from a chroot environment, any idea ? |
| 03:42.40 | Thanatermesis | I dont have access to the localhost :/ |
| 03:42.46 | woodland | kevix, i dont have /etc/lilo.conf |
| 03:42.51 | Mugsy_ | lakcaj: I dont have the seperate partition for it though |
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| 03:43.09 | kevix | woodland, do 'ls /etc/lilo.conf' |
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| 03:43.12 | lakcaj | Mugsy_, then I'm not sure what you are trying to do. |
| 03:43.14 | woodland | ok |
| 03:43.49 | Mugsy_ | lakcaj: I want to create a partition for /home so I can reinstall debian without messing anything up |
| 03:43.59 | rking | i would have burned the heck out of the little endian guys. i wish i understood that crap. |
| 03:44.08 | lakcaj | Mugsy_, oh wait, I see what you mean. Yeah, during the install, you can specify an existing partition to mount as home. |
| 03:44.16 | tonsofpcs | ok, working with a P2 today, Alpha is awaiting a new video card... |
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| 03:44.28 | tonsofpcs | What do I need to do to network boot this machine to install Debian on it? |
| 03:44.29 | lakcaj | Mugsy_, backing up to CD not an option? |
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| 03:44.50 | Mugsy_ | lakcaj, its an option, I was going to do that if I couldn't do it the other way |
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| 03:44.55 | woodland | kevix, nope, i dont ave it |
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| 03:45.02 | GregM | how does one remove a symbolic link? |
| 03:45.03 | UnKnowN_ | hey if your sound stops working is there a way to restart the service? |
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| 03:45.27 | kevix | woodland, huh? what kind of machine are you using? a mac? |
| 03:45.31 | lakcaj | Mugsy_, well, if you want, you can leave your data on a partition, and specify that partition to be mounted as home during the install. Just be careful, and also make sure that you specify that the partition is not to be formatted. |
| 03:45.32 | woodland | kevix, is there a problem if i uninstall 2.6.8 and install 2.6.11 |
| 03:45.40 | lakcaj | GregM, just rm it |
| 03:45.50 | woodland | no,i am using debian |
| 03:46.36 | kevix | woodland, you should not have to manually uninstall 2.6.8 before installing 2.6.11. just install 2.6.11. |
| 03:47.04 | EdLin | woodland: debian runs on Mac hardware too. :-) |
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| 03:47.15 | kevix | woodland, just to be sure. do you have a debian boot cd (a floppy or a sarge cd)? |
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| 03:47.21 | woodland | nope |
| 03:47.33 | woodland | i netinstalled debian arge |
| 03:47.35 | woodland | sarge |
| 03:47.37 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, any person know how to posible to I not have access to the localhost from a chroot environment ? |
| 03:48.08 | woodland | kevix, apt-cache search kernel-image doesnt show me package for 2.6.11 |
| 03:48.44 | kevix | woodland, are you running sid/unstable? ok, what does it show? |
| 03:49.16 | woodland | kevix, i am running stable sarge |
| 03:49.16 | Dewi | there are a lot of gnome application menu shortcuts which use "gksu", but I'd rather use "gksudo" - is there a way to change this without doing a lot of damage and taking a lot of time? |
| 03:49.23 | lakcaj | Thanatermesis, do you have a /etc/hosts in your chroot? I haven't played around with chroot too much, so that might be a stupid question. |
| 03:49.50 | UnKnowN_ | what the hell is up with sound |
| 03:50.08 | UnKnowN_ | wont play sounds for more than one process |
| 03:50.08 | lakcaj | Dewi, rm /usr/bin/gksu && ln -s /usr/bin/gksudo /usr/bin/gksu |
| 03:50.11 | lakcaj | :) |
| 03:50.14 | kevix | woodland, which kernel does it show is available? |
| 03:50.21 | Thanatermesis | thanks lakcaj :) |
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| 03:50.53 | woodland | kevix, can u see output of my command /exec uname -a |
| 03:50.59 | UnKnowN_ | can someone help me with that? |
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| 03:51.15 | Dewi | lakcaj: hehe. actually it's a symlink already. |
| 03:51.25 | Dewi | lakcaj: it changes behaviour depending on invocation name |
| 03:51.27 | woodland | kevix,,2.4.27-2-386 #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 03:51.39 | kevix | woodland, I was asking about apt-cache search |
| 03:51.39 | Dewi | gksu |
| 03:51.50 | tonsofpcs | where on the FTP can i find the boot diskette for installing Debian on an i686 based system? |
| 03:52.00 | kevix | woodland, that means that you are running 2.4 not 2.6 |
| 03:52.14 | woodland | yeah, right now |
| 03:52.20 | kurumin_Alvim | "olha o sopro do Dragao, olha o sopro do dragao" |
| 03:52.37 | woodland | but i have 2.6.8 installed, i cant access internet there, so i am here |
| 03:52.45 | lakcaj | UnKnowN_, what soundcard? If your card doesn't do hardware mixing, then you have to use a sound server or dmix or something. It is likely going to be a big PITA if your card can't just do it. |
| 03:52.51 | kevix | woodland, so you know how to boot to 2.4 or 2.6 ? |
| 03:52.57 | kurumin_Alvim | e a verdade que assombra... o descaso que condena... a estupidez que destroi ... eu vejo tudo que se foi e o que nao existe mais. |
| 03:53.04 | UnKnowN_ | Well my sound card is fine |
| 03:53.19 | UnKnowN_ | i think the process died |
| 03:53.20 | tonsofpcs | is http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ what I want for floppy-boot install of latest stable? |
| 03:53.26 | woodland | kevix, ya, i can boot in 2.6 but as i said i cant access net for some reason |
| 03:53.28 | UnKnowN_ | What process would I restart? |
| 03:53.34 | kevix | woodland, ok. I see. so you may just have to add the correct modules to /etc/modules |
| 03:53.44 | woodland | ya |
| 03:53.48 | woodland | u r right |
| 03:53.56 | UnKnowN_ | its worked every other time |
| 03:54.51 | lakcaj | UnKnowN_, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart |
| 03:54.52 | UnKnowN_ | something crashed |
| 03:54.54 | lakcaj | does that work? |
| 03:55.15 | UnKnowN_ | no such directory |
| 03:55.17 | lakcaj | Dewi, I'm not sure what to do then. There has to be a bastardized way of doing it somehow. |
| 03:55.24 | lakcaj | apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 03:55.32 | UnKnowN_ | just alsa on my distro |
| 03:55.45 | UnKnowN_ | shut down and started back up |
| 03:55.53 | lakcaj | are you using ubuntu? |
| 03:56.00 | kevix | woodland, is there anything in /etc/modules? try 'less /etc/modules'. |
| 03:56.07 | woodland | ok |
| 03:56.07 | UnKnowN_ | nah |
| 03:56.09 | UnKnowN_ | Knoppix |
| 03:56.15 | UnKnowN_ | I know that its buggy |
| 03:56.19 | UnKnowN_ | And its not debian |
| 03:56.30 | lakcaj | :) |
| 03:56.41 | lakcaj | well, try to stop and then start alsa |
| 03:56.45 | UnKnowN_ | I did |
| 03:56.48 | UnKnowN_ | I did restart |
| 03:56.57 | UnKnowN_ | Still not working |
| 03:57.08 | UnKnowN_ | Maybe one of the processes is taking all the voices |
| 03:57.13 | woodland | kevix can u come to #flood |
| 03:57.20 | kevix | woodland, ok. |
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| 03:57.25 | lakcaj | you could check to see if artsd or esd is running, UnKnowN_ |
| 03:57.36 | lakcaj | ps aux | grep arts |
| 03:57.41 | lakcaj | ps aux | grep esd |
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| 03:58.08 | woodland | so what do u think |
| 03:58.09 | UnKnowN_ | arts |
| 03:58.28 | UnKnowN_ | both are there i think |
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| 03:58.58 | lakcaj | try killall -9 artsd |
| 03:59.11 | EksTeSi | hey I am gettng unknown-block(0,0) errors after my 2.6.13 compile reboot... I copied my entry in grub.. any ideas what is up ? |
| 03:59.18 | Dewi | lakcaj: I guess I'll just keep using the root password. But it makes the openbsd user in me cringe. :P |
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| 03:59.32 | UnKnowN_ | no process killed |
| 03:59.34 | UnKnowN_ | says that |
| 03:59.48 | UnKnowN_ | process id's 20556 and 20573 |
| 03:59.57 | lakcaj | kill -9 20556 |
| 03:59.58 | lakcaj | ? |
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| 04:00.08 | UnKnowN_ | wait they switched id's |
| 04:00.10 | lakcaj | you shouldn't have two sound servers running. |
| 04:00.11 | UnKnowN_ | wth |
| 04:00.21 | Guerin | you can't kill artsd |
| 04:00.27 | lakcaj | if you have both artsd and esd running, then I'm not surpirsed you have no audio. |
| 04:00.30 | UnKnowN_ | they keep switched pid's |
| 04:00.34 | Guerin | you have to shut it down in kcontrol |
| 04:00.39 | Guerin | it's a DAEMON |
| 04:00.43 | Guerin | it restarts when killed |
| 04:00.45 | UnKnowN_ | what do i do? |
| 04:00.52 | lakcaj | UnKnowN_, listen to Guerin, I really don't have any experience with sound daemons. |
| 04:00.56 | ke6isf | UnKnowN_: If you know it's not Debian, why are you looking for help in here for a Knoppix problem? |
| 04:00.56 | UnKnowN_ | heheh |
| 04:01.03 | Guerin | bah |
| 04:01.05 | UnKnowN_ | Because it still works |
| 04:01.06 | Guerin | !moron UnKnowN_ |
| 04:01.06 | dpkg | UnKnowN_: You are moron #31 |
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| 04:01.15 | Guerin | UnKnowN_: this is a kde problem as well |
| 04:01.29 | UnKnowN_ | Your advice works for knoppix |
| 04:01.34 | UnKnowN_ | So what should i do? |
| 04:01.49 | Guerin | UnKnowN_: do what I fucking told you |
| 04:01.59 | Guerin | UnKnowN_: and ask in #kde |
| 04:02.05 | Guerin | and ask in #knoppix |
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| 04:02.13 | lakcaj | Guerin you have to shut it down in kcontrol |
| 04:02.13 | lakcaj | Guerin it's a DAEMON |
| 04:02.50 | UnKnowN_ | and how would i do that in kcontrol |
| 04:02.57 | UnKnowN_ | do i have to go into kcontrol? |
| 04:03.04 | Guerin | ... |
| 04:03.10 | DoppleGanger | UnKnowN_: get the hint this channel is for DEBIAN |
| 04:03.12 | lakcaj | yep, it's under audio or sound or something... sound server |
| 04:03.16 | DoppleGanger | can you read |
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| 04:03.34 | UnKnowN_ | omfg |
| 04:03.38 | UnKnowN_ | sound system was off |
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| 04:04.00 | UnKnowN_ | wierd |
| 04:04.15 | niccc3 | is there any way we can make installing debian packages an invertible function? e.g., uninstall becomes the invese of the install function |
| 04:04.37 | ke6isf | niccc3: ...wha? |
| 04:04.54 | ke6isf | niccc3: The inverse to install is 'remove'. |
| 04:05.12 | Guerin | niccc3: you mean alias aptitude remove to aptitude uninstall |
| 04:06.06 | niccc3 | packages can do arbitrary things which are not undoable on remove |
| 04:06.19 | UnKnowN_ | oh great kde is crashing |
| 04:06.32 | Guerin | niccc3: you want to remove every trace of a package? |
| 04:06.37 | Guerin | niccc3: use purge |
| 04:06.54 | niccc3 | Guerin: ok |
| 04:07.19 | Guerin | niccc3: but even purge can't necessarily get everything; some don't remove logs, for instance, and unless you specifically tell it do, a rdb package won't remove your databases with purge. |
| 04:07.23 | Guerin | which is sane |
| 04:07.26 | ke6isf | UnKnowN_: Sucks to be you,dude. Ya shouldn'ta used Knoppix. |
| 04:07.58 | nvz | !yinzersmite ke6isf |
| 04:08.07 | nvz | heh |
| 04:08.13 | ke6isf | heh =^^= |
| 04:08.25 | mwilson | Guerin: Dunno about that... mysql used to nuke the databases when you removed it. There was a big flamewar about it at the time. |
| 04:08.28 | ke6isf | nvz: Nah, more like an asshole. |
| 04:08.30 | UnKnowN_ | KNOPPIX SUCKS |
| 04:08.36 | UnKnowN_ | But Im handling it well |
| 04:08.40 | mwilson | Guerin: I have no idea if it still does, though. |
| 04:08.41 | Guerin | mwilson: now thee's a debconf question for it on install |
| 04:08.56 | nvz | I wonder who appended the yinzersmite. |
| 04:09.01 | abrotman | not me |
| 04:09.08 | abrotman | :phillysmite nvz |
| 04:09.11 | nvz | abrotman: you were the first person I though of |
| 04:09.13 | abrotman | !phillysmite nvz |
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| 04:09.33 | abrotman | !literal cmd: yinzersmite (.*?) |
| 04:09.34 | dpkg | CMD: yinzersmite (.*?) is ($1): <action> (runsover $1, wif an ambleelunce gowen a hunnert mallanar.|pooshes $1 aht da winda an yells "chawt dahnere". |pahds $1 fer behavin like an ig'nent yinzer.|rode $1 dahntahn ta go gall-a-vantin' da norside wif a Gian Iggle buggy like da rest of da bums.|pinches $1 fer hawkin' stoled Stiller's tickets.|rilly wisht $1 conjagated sharn once in awhile.|$1: yinz a jagoff) |
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| 04:09.54 | abrotman | !factinfo cmd: yinzersmite (.*?) |
| 04:09.54 | dpkg | abrotman: there's no such factoid as CMD: yinzersmite (.*?) |
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| 04:09.59 | abrotman | yes there is! |
| 04:10.02 | abrotman | !factinfo cmd: yinzersmite (.*?) |
| 04:10.02 | dpkg | CMD: yinzersmite (.*?) -- created by nvz <~nvz@68.185.200.19> at Mon Jan 24 05:17:59 2005 (229 days). |
| 04:10.06 | abrotman | bah |
| 04:10.22 | nvz | I made all but the last one. |
| 04:10.36 | nvz | I obviously try cram more yinzer vocab in than that |
| 04:10.47 | nvz | though shorties work too |
| 04:11.12 | nvz | wtf is a floppy? |
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| 04:12.07 | nvz | j/k I actually had pcs with floppies.. 3 1/2" and 5 1/4" I had some 8" floppies once but I never had or seen a pc with an 8" floppy drive |
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| 04:12.28 | nvz | I can only imagine carrying around a large portfolio and trying to use 8" floppies all the time |
| 04:12.44 | tonsofpcs | lol |
| 04:13.07 | tonsofpcs | nvz - I have an Apple IIgs behind me with 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives |
| 04:13.17 | hyperstream | anyone know how i would go about converting a .img .ccd .sub (this is its extentions) into .iso |
| 04:13.44 | nvz | I always wanted a IIgs they were cooler looking and much more expandable than the IIe or IIc I had |
| 04:14.03 | kevix | hyperstream, an img = iso IIRC. not sure about the others? |
| 04:14.11 | nvz | they were always pretty rare and expensive made it hard to get my hands on one |
| 04:14.25 | tonsofpcs | are there any good mirrors in the NYC area? |
| 04:14.29 | kevix | hyperstream, what program made those files? |
| 04:14.32 | hyperstream | hmm i cant mount it to /dev/cdrom2 (i used mkdir to make cdrom2 directory) |
| 04:14.36 | hyperstream | fantom cd i think |
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| 04:14.48 | tonsofpcs | nm, found one |
| 04:14.48 | nvz | tonsofpcs: try the pair mirror see what speeds you get |
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| 04:15.03 | tonsofpcs | pair mirror? |
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| 04:15.20 | kevix | hyperstream, what exact command did you use? |
| 04:15.22 | tonsofpcs | wazzat? |
| 04:15.23 | hyperstream | mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/hyperstream/bob/keep/Diablo/Diablo2INSTALLDISC..sub /mnt/cdrom2 |
| 04:15.25 | nvz | deb http://debian.mirrors.pair.com/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 04:15.27 | woodland | kevix r, u there |
| 04:15.34 | woodland | now i am in 2.6.8 |
| 04:15.35 | kevix | yup. |
| 04:15.38 | hyperstream | ..sub == ..img and ..ccd |
| 04:15.39 | ke6isf | !r |
| 04:15.39 | dpkg | i heard r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
| 04:15.41 | mwilson | Why would you try to mount it to someplace in /dev? As to what it might be... what does file(1) think it is? |
| 04:15.41 | hyperstream | neither works |
| 04:15.46 | tonsofpcs | nvz - oh, where's that at? |
| 04:15.50 | woodland | i may be disconnected in short while, kevix |
| 04:15.54 | kevix | hyperstream, what does 'file X' where X is the file show? |
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| 04:16.03 | hyperstream | : data |
| 04:16.08 | nvz | tonsofpcs: no clue.. but I am in Pittsburgh area not to far from NY and I get really good speeds from it |
| 04:16.34 | woodland | hi kevix, |
| 04:16.36 | kevix | woodland, but you are online? I thought you couldn't do it. or is it that it disconnects in a short time. |
| 04:16.43 | mwilson | Y'all *do* realize you're helping a pirate, right? |
| 04:16.43 | woodland | ya |
| 04:16.45 | tonsofpcs | nvz - yea, it's just that i know that all of my network traffic flows through long island [thats where my isp's hq and main hub is], so... |
| 04:16.54 | woodland | i will be disconnected in short while |
| 04:17.05 | hyperstream | kevix, |
| 04:17.05 | hyperstream | /home/hyperstream/bob/keep/Diablo/Diablo2INSTALLDISC..img: data |
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| 04:17.25 | kevix | mwilson, should I discriminate by field of endevor? |
| 04:17.34 | woodland | can u come to #flood , kevix ? |
| 04:17.50 | kevix | woodland, I'm still there. |
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| 04:17.58 | hyperstream | kevix, any ideas? |
| 04:18.22 | amphi | hyperstream: that's the nearest file(1) will come to saying 'no fscking clue, mate' |
| 04:18.38 | mwilson | hyperstream: Other than actually paying for the software you're trying to steal? |
| 04:18.39 | kevix | mount |
| 04:18.40 | nvz | tonsofpcs: I tried many mirrors and the PSU one was fast but pair was faster than any other one I tried.. kernel.org and the berkeley one are quick too but pretty far and tend to vary more. |
| 04:18.49 | kevix | no. |
| 04:19.10 | nvz | tonsofpcs: they have a benchmarking tool called apt-spy |
| 04:19.29 | woodland | kevix, i posted /sbin/ifconfig in #flood |
| 04:19.30 | tonsofpcs | wow, 20 ms pings |
| 04:19.31 | kevix | hyperstream, does it have an md5sum to check? |
| 04:19.43 | tonsofpcs | mvz - that doesn't help if its not yet installed |
| 04:19.49 | tonsofpcs | :) |
| 04:19.56 | hyperstream | mwilson, oo trust me i payd for these cd's, Diablo2 and the Expansion set. i used fantom cd so i didnt have to keep putting cd's in and out of drive. and then it proove further more a good idea when i lost my cd's in the transfer from nz to aussie |
| 04:20.03 | kevix | woodland, I wait the output. |
| 04:20.19 | EksTeSi | what's everyone favorite stable kernel version right now ? |
| 04:20.21 | hyperstream | kevix, wouldnt know how to tell |
| 04:20.24 | tonsofpcs | but it's already going from rutgers, i'll only change it if it f's up |
| 04:20.31 | hyperstream | 12.6.5 |
| 04:20.36 | hyperstream | eeek |
| 04:20.36 | tonsofpcs | EksTeSi - 1.6.2 |
| 04:20.41 | hyperstream | 2.6.12.5 |
| 04:20.57 | tonsofpcs | [or was it 1.4.6... i keep getting them confused] |
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| 04:21.24 | EksTeSi | hmm k trying 2.6.12.6 |
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| 04:21.44 | EksTeSi | I dunno man was using 2.6.13 and my grub is crapping on the root= |
| 04:21.56 | tonsofpcs | that's not stable |
| 04:22.10 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, |
| 04:22.16 | hyperstream | i had similar issues |
| 04:22.22 | hyperstream | you might need to mkinitrd |
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| 04:22.29 | hyperstream | make a initrd file |
| 04:22.30 | EksTeSi | says "latest stable" |
| 04:22.32 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 04:22.37 | hyperstream | and append it to the grub list |
| 04:22.40 | EksTeSi | yeah I dunno how to make the initrd |
| 04:22.47 | EksTeSi | mkinitrd ? |
| 04:22.50 | hyperstream | umm did you compile your kernel |
| 04:22.55 | EksTeSi | maybe that might help |
| 04:22.56 | hyperstream | its like |
| 04:23.01 | EksTeSi | yeah I did "make install" |
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| 04:23.09 | EksTeSi | after make |
| 04:23.19 | hyperstream | mkinitrd -o /boot/linux-kernel-version |
| 04:23.23 | EksTeSi | ooo ok |
| 04:23.26 | hyperstream | let me go chk |
| 04:23.26 | EksTeSi | 1 sec |
| 04:23.30 | hyperstream | wait |
| 04:23.33 | EksTeSi | k |
| 04:23.44 | hyperstream | mkinitrd -o /boot/linux-kernel-version /boo/initrd-kernel-version |
| 04:23.50 | hyperstream | ill go find what i use exactly 1 sec |
| 04:23.54 | mwilson | hyperstream: Actually checking whether the kernel he thinks he built requires an initrd would never occur to you? |
| 04:24.33 | hyperstream | mwilson, all kernels ive compile have. |
| 04:24.41 | hyperstream | people were saying it doesnt require one or something |
| 04:24.44 | hyperstream | but it always did |
| 04:24.58 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, ls /boot/ |
| 04:25.03 | hyperstream | should see something like initrd.img-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 04:25.11 | EksTeSi | yeah my working keneel made by the deb install has it |
| 04:25.13 | EksTeSi | yep |
| 04:25.20 | EksTeSi | but none from my custom compile. |
| 04:25.24 | EksTeSi | so yeah gonna try that |
| 04:25.39 | hyperstream | kk |
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| 04:25.41 | EksTeSi | I was gonna.. then stopped... k here we go brb go p166 go ! |
| 04:25.41 | hyperstream | yeah |
| 04:25.42 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 04:25.51 | tonsofpcs | how long should a net install take? |
| 04:25.57 | tonsofpcs | [i686] |
| 04:25.57 | jason^ | 4 months |
| 04:26.06 | mwilson | Until it's done. |
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| 04:26.11 | tonsofpcs | jason^ - cool, i'mma hot-swap a fan, that ok with you? :) |
| 04:26.15 | jason^ | depends on how fast your internet connection |
| 04:26.18 | hyperstream | hmm |
| 04:26.20 | jason^ | + is |
| 04:26.24 | tonsofpcs | jason^ - 10 mbit |
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| 04:26.40 | jason^ | and how fast is your connect to the mirror? |
| 04:26.55 | tonsofpcs | my connection is 10mbit, the issue is the data stream that they provide :) |
| 04:27.08 | tonsofpcs | i'mma guess 100 KByte per sec |
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| 04:27.21 | hyperstream | mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12.5 2.6.12.5 need to be in the /boot/ directory i guess |
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| 04:27.42 | woodland1 | hi kevix |
| 04:27.53 | kevix | woodland1, hi |
| 04:28.14 | woodland1 | u see, i got disconnected, now i am on windows pc in my office |
| 04:28.27 | amphi | hurrah |
| 04:28.36 | kevix | woodland1, ah. I see. |
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| 04:28.53 | woodland1 | i am still logged in to 2.6.8 |
| 04:29.04 | woodland1 | can i do anything to it , kevix |
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| 04:31.29 | kevix | woodland1, nothing I am familiar with. try asking on debian-user mailing list. oh well. |
| 04:31.35 | woodland1 | ok |
| 04:31.53 | sime | Has anyone being able to get the Croatian locale to work with Sarge |
| 04:31.53 | tonsofpcs | hmmm, what is grub error 15? |
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| 04:33.09 | EksTeSi | crunch crunch crunch |
| 04:33.39 | EksTeSi | u guys ever compile kernels on another pc and then cp them over and run'em ? is that as straight forward as it should be ? |
| 04:34.01 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, did that not work? |
| 04:34.02 | EksTeSi | i guess you move what ? system.map , the vmlinuz, the modules : ( |
| 04:34.17 | EksTeSi | still crunchin man.. it's a p166 with 96 mb ram |
| 04:34.18 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 04:34.20 | EksTeSi | 1 sec |
| 04:34.21 | zamolxes | EksTeSi: the binaries should be a direct result of the config options |
| 04:34.25 | hyperstream | ooo |
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| 04:34.39 | UnKnowN_ | How do you install flash in Konqueror |
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| 04:34.50 | tonsofpcs | you wouldn't happen to know what grub error 15 [i686] is, would ya? |
| 04:34.52 | EksTeSi | use firefox |
| 04:35.03 | UnKnowN_ | firefox doesn't work |
| 04:35.07 | EksTeSi | doh |
| 04:35.11 | EksTeSi | how iz that ? |
| 04:35.11 | UnKnowN_ | :P |
| 04:35.12 | zamolxes | and flash is bad for you, causes blindness, like jerking off |
| 04:35.21 | EksTeSi | haha |
| 04:35.24 | UnKnowN_ | hhehe |
| 04:35.27 | UnKnowN_ | |LIES! |
| 04:35.34 | UnKnowN_ | I look at porn every day |
| 04:35.37 | UnKnowN_ | Im not blind |
| 04:35.40 | EksTeSi | hmm where is this initrd |
| 04:35.47 | EksTeSi | img |
| 04:35.51 | tonsofpcs | ah, nm, File Not Found.... |
| 04:35.54 | hyperstream | did you do |
| 04:36.00 | hyperstream | mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12.5 2.6.12.5 need to be in the /boot/ directory i guess |
| 04:36.01 | UnKnowN_ | where do i install flash for Konqueror |
| 04:36.03 | hyperstream | something like that? |
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| 04:36.24 | hyperstream | did you add it to your grub.lst |
| 04:36.29 | tonsofpcs | anyone know why i get GRUB stage1.5 Error 15 [file not found] after booting after the debian install? |
| 04:36.43 | EksTeSi | sorta.. I am in the /boot and I did mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.13 2.6.13 it did some crunching no errors.. but I see no .img |
| 04:36.45 | EksTeSi | hmm |
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| 04:37.00 | hyperstream | and if you did run that line and there is no initrd img in the /boot/ directory then i got that issue too |
| 04:37.11 | zamolxes | UnKnowN_: i think you just have to link it in the plugins dir, konqueror can use mozilla plugins |
| 04:37.13 | EksTeSi | o shitty |
| 04:37.13 | hyperstream | do this |
| 04:37.14 | EksTeSi | hmm |
| 04:37.16 | hyperstream | mkinitrd -o /tmp/initrd.img-2.6.12.5 2.6.12.5 need to be in the /boot/ directory i guess |
| 04:37.22 | tonsofpcs | UnKnowN_ - he said that it causes blindness, like jerking off, that means that it causes either blindness or jerking off lol |
| 04:37.22 | hyperstream | then go into the /tmp folder and mv it to the /boot/ |
| 04:37.24 | hyperstream | yeah |
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| 04:37.28 | EksTeSi | k |
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| 04:37.42 | UnKnowN_ | so how do i link the plug ins? |
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| 04:37.44 | hyperstream | i had the same issue when i compiled 2.6.12.5 but anything before that it normally appared in the /boot/ directory |
| 04:37.46 | tonsofpcs | nvz still up? |
| 04:37.55 | compguymac | hello all |
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| 04:38.13 | tonsofpcs | hi compguymac |
| 04:38.14 | tonsofpcs | any clue why i get GRUB stage1.5 Error 15 [manual says: file not found] after booting after the debian install? |
| 04:38.41 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, then in your /boot/grub/menu.lst you should have something like this: |
| 04:38.43 | hyperstream | kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro |
| 04:38.44 | hyperstream | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12.5 |
| 04:38.46 | EksTeSi | k trying the /boot/initrd frist |
| 04:38.51 | compguymac | hey |
| 04:38.51 | compguymac | nope, sorry, never had that error, maybe try google? |
| 04:38.58 | hyperstream | okies |
| 04:39.00 | EksTeSi | werd... yeah looking forward to that.. when I get an output |
| 04:39.01 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 04:39.01 | hyperstream | hope al goes well :) |
| 04:39.05 | tonsofpcs | compguymac - i did, it said it's "File not found" :) |
| 04:39.10 | hyperstream | :P |
| 04:39.18 | EksTeSi | oo ok that worked |
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| 04:39.19 | tonsofpcs | :This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK.: |
| 04:39.24 | EksTeSi | with the /boot/initrd |
| 04:39.27 | tonsofpcs | s/:/" [x2] |
| 04:39.27 | hyperstream | :) |
| 04:39.28 | EksTeSi | thing set |
| 04:39.30 | hyperstream | im not a pro |
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| 04:39.44 | hyperstream | im newb, as |
| 04:39.48 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 04:39.54 | EksTeSi | i is 2 |
| 04:40.03 | EksTeSi | and been using linux for like 6 yrs now |
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| 04:40.05 | hyperstream | go the nubs |
| 04:40.13 | hyperstream | ouch 2nd month here |
| 04:40.15 | EksTeSi | keep making new stuff like grub... every1 is newb |
| 04:40.18 | compguymac | im a slack guy since 93, just decided tonight to try out debian, some say im lucky to climb out of the slack hole, haha |
| 04:40.26 | EksTeSi | yeah I was slacky |
| 04:40.34 | hyperstream | any good? |
| 04:40.36 | EksTeSi | then redhat old school for da mad metro-x |
| 04:40.39 | EksTeSi | then deb |
| 04:40.41 | EksTeSi | now gentoo |
| 04:40.42 | EksTeSi | : )\ |
| 04:40.50 | hyperstream | :D |
| 04:40.50 | EksTeSi | but doin deb on a p166 |
| 04:40.59 | EksTeSi | don wanna be compilin gentoo on a p166 |
| 04:41.13 | EksTeSi | my gentoo desktop is fookin tight though.. lovin it |
| 04:41.19 | hyperstream | :P |
| 04:41.19 | EksTeSi | playing enemy territory |
| 04:41.27 | hyperstream | cedega? |
| 04:41.32 | EksTeSi | got me dual head nvidia GL drivers kickin |
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| 04:41.37 | hyperstream | or native game |
| 04:41.43 | EksTeSi | eh ? |
| 04:41.51 | EksTeSi | online ET |
| 04:41.53 | hyperstream | nenemy territory |
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| 04:42.18 | EksTeSi | but I like Deb.. nice for servers.. |
| 04:42.27 | compguymac | since im in a debian room, can i ask why debian? |
| 04:42.28 | hyperstream | yah |
| 04:42.29 | compguymac | becides servers |
| 04:42.41 | hyperstream | i loven the apt-get and synaptic |
| 04:42.48 | EksTeSi | yep they is nice |
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| 04:42.51 | dotsony | has anyone tried to build 2.6.13.1? |
| 04:42.53 | EksTeSi | but emerge and portage for gentoo |
| 04:42.56 | EksTeSi | o man smokin |
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| 04:43.01 | sguerra | hi, does anz bodz can recomend me a windows emulator for knoppix 3,7 and show me how to install it? |
| 04:43.11 | EksTeSi | vmware |
| 04:43.14 | EksTeSi | 5 |
| 04:43.25 | EksTeSi | jail the fookin MS |
| 04:43.27 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 04:43.37 | sguerra | e? |
| 04:44.01 | hyperstream | anyone know howd i go about turning CloneCD imgs's (.img .ccd .sub) into a iso in linux. or even perhaps burning it. would something like gnomebaker do this? |
| 04:44.04 | sguerra | pleas sombadz I reallz don't want to use again wondows |
| 04:44.08 | dotsony | it dies with an error in the /drivers/char/drm/gamma* directory |
| 04:44.31 | dotsony | i don't know what the initial error is as the output has exceeded the scrollback of my terminal |
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| 04:45.00 | dotsony | i'm assuming this means i'm missing some library or i've got the wrong version of some library |
| 04:45.37 | EksTeSi | damn that didn't quite work |
| 04:45.38 | EksTeSi | hmm |
| 04:45.43 | EksTeSi | different error now though |
| 04:45.57 | hyperstream | sguerra, could try wine |
| 04:46.03 | hyperstream | apt-get install wine |
| 04:46.14 | hyperstream | wine /path/to/programmesssssss.exe |
| 04:46.21 | hyperstream | arg stupid s key |
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| 04:46.31 | VolVE | Hi all, so I've just spent the last few hours poking at my pre-prod Postfix system and I'm down to configuring Maildrop; however, it seems that the more recent versions of Debian's courier-maildrop don't include MySQL support and therefore when combined with virtual users happily sitting in MySQL, maildrop spews nothing but errors because it can't find the users in question. Anyone worked around this or am I missing something? :) |
| 04:46.35 | EksTeSi | yeah wine is ok... but I find vmware rocks.. and runs MS damn smooth... + you can bridge your nics |
| 04:47.27 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, hmm does vmware have more support for games? |
| 04:47.58 | EksTeSi | it runs the full OS ( any , MS, BSD, linux etc ) in a virtual machine with it's own bios |
| 04:48.01 | EksTeSi | so yeah |
| 04:48.16 | hyperstream | wired |
| 04:48.16 | EksTeSi | you can install inside the machine whatever you want.. drivers, apps, |
| 04:48.20 | hyperstream | use alot of cpu load |
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| 04:48.26 | EksTeSi | you just can't install more virtual machines |
| 04:48.40 | EksTeSi | not really... but you probablly don't want to run insano games |
| 04:48.45 | EksTeSi | but ppl use it for full servers |
| 04:48.57 | EksTeSi | games.... dual boot back to MS |
| 04:49.23 | EksTeSi | but I run flash and dreamweaver and IE6 in my win2k server virtual machine |
| 04:49.37 | hyperstream | i play cs/cs:s/hl2 and wow thru cedega on linux |
| 04:49.40 | hyperstream | really nice too |
| 04:49.42 | EksTeSi | it's bridged so I have it on it's own IP I can remote desktop into it |
| 04:49.44 | hyperstream | p2p+cedega |
| 04:49.51 | hyperstream | oo |
| 04:49.56 | EksTeSi | what's cedega ? |
| 04:49.57 | UnKnowN_ | why isn't flash playing sound? |
| 04:50.06 | hyperstream | gaming emulater |
| 04:50.15 | EksTeSi | u guys wanna see a mini app I am working on in flash ? |
| 04:50.19 | hyperstream | for windows game |
| 04:50.22 | EksTeSi | warning though : there is boobies |
| 04:50.26 | UnKnowN_ | Thats it |
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| 04:50.26 | EdLin | !u |
| 04:50.27 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 04:50.27 | hyperstream | www.transgaming.com |
| 04:50.32 | UnKnowN_ | Im installing Internet explorer |
| 04:50.34 | hyperstream | msg me if you need any help/files |
| 04:50.37 | UnKnowN_ | Muhahahah |
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| 04:50.49 | EksTeSi | http://office.abstractdesign.com/~ekstesi/pf10/pf10_image_loader_v2.swf |
| 04:50.50 | kevix | EksTeSi, cedega is a commercially supported WINE focused on gaming support. |
| 04:50.58 | EksTeSi | nice |
| 04:51.21 | EksTeSi | o right wineX |
| 04:51.30 | Tiggs | I want to install superkarumba, its supposed to be listen in the unstable branch |
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| 04:51.58 | Tiggs | im running sarge stable, what is the apt source for unstable or isit testing is the next one? |
| 04:52.11 | hyperstream | anyone know howd i go about turning CloneCD imgs's (.img .ccd .sub) into a iso in linux. or even perhaps burning it. would something like gnomebaker do this? |
| 04:52.16 | lofdev | anyone tell me how to fix a configure error looking for zlib (without getting into the fact that I am not using apt)? |
| 04:53.37 | liable | hyperstream: try mounting it on loopback and see whats in it. |
| 04:54.33 | kevix | lofdev, are you familar with bash? the error usually lists a line number in an installation script. |
| 04:54.38 | amphi | lofdev: install zlib and zlib dev packages |
| 04:54.48 | liable | Tiggs: testing. |
| 04:55.28 | Tiggs | its stable, testing, unstable is that the order? |
| 04:55.33 | liable | yes |
| 04:55.34 | EdLin | Tiggs: IYNTAYS |
| 04:55.52 | hyperstream | doesnt work says i need to provide a filesystem type, when i try iso9660 invalid filesystem, then the output of the .img file data, (file image.img) |
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| 04:56.26 | Tiggs | i need an apt source for testing please |
| 04:56.39 | EksTeSi | google it |
| 04:56.44 | EdLin | Tiggs: if you need to ask you shouldn't |
| 04:57.03 | kevix | Tiggs, copy the line for 'stable' or 'sarge' and replace it with 'testing' |
| 04:57.12 | Tiggs | ok thanks |
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| 04:57.42 | lofdev | amphi: is that the same as zlib1g-dev? |
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| 04:58.28 | kevix | But as EdLin said, a mixed system (stable+testing+unstable) is liable to have some instability. |
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| 04:58.56 | EdLin | kevix: Tiggs has already left |
| 04:58.57 | lofdev | amphi: according to ./configure it is. thanks |
| 04:59.19 | kevix | lofdev, the library is 'zlib' but there are more than one version. zlib1g is that. |
| 04:59.41 | lofdev | kevix: thanks. all this to install mpd with aac support.... |
| 04:59.51 | EdLin | kevix: I think it's simply a bad idea for someone who doesn't understand apt-get or how to use man pages to run etch or sid. |
| 05:00.17 | EdLin | kevix: thanks to Sarge, you don't even have the "but I want new software" excuse either. |
| 05:00.50 | kevix | lofdev, are you familar with ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ |
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| 05:01.28 | EksTeSi | "but I want new software" that is when I went to gentoo... desktop fun : ) |
| 05:01.31 | lofdev | kevix: nope. what is it? |
| 05:02.00 | kevix | EdLin, I seems to take long time for folks to understand this x-) |
| 05:02.06 | EdLin | EksTeSi: Gentoo isn't all that new unless you run ~x86 on a lot of packages. |
| 05:02.23 | EksTeSi | well sarge did close that gap |
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| 05:02.48 | EksTeSi | but I dunno man.. I seem to find some crazee stuff out there in the emerge buids |
| 05:02.56 | EksTeSi | builds |
| 05:03.01 | kevix | the marillat site contains most of the multimedia software that is non-free that runs all those audio video file |
| 05:03.04 | lofdev | EksTeSi: gentoo is one excellent crash course in how the kernel works, though |
| 05:03.16 | EksTeSi | not bashing deb... I will always be a deb fan : ) |
| 05:03.30 | EksTeSi | yeah do a stage1 for gentoo and you will be a true geek |
| 05:03.32 | EdLin | lofdev: you can run "make menuconfig" in Debian too. :-) |
| 05:03.43 | EksTeSi | the slacks old schooler r snickerin |
| 05:03.55 | EdLin | !r |
| 05:03.55 | dpkg | it has been said that r is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. AND IT'S "ARE", YOU MORONS! |
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| 05:04.21 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:04.28 | lofdev | EdLin: I didn't understand what recompiling a kernel WAS until I played with Gentoo. Now it's easy. |
| 05:04.29 | SC33 | Ive just put a second IDE hdd into my debian box and want to know how i can format it as a Linux EXT2 hdd, whilst in linux |
| 05:04.31 | EksTeSi | R is crazee times... we was gonna interface it |
| 05:04.38 | EksTeSi | into our software |
| 05:04.55 | EksTeSi | cfdisk |
| 05:05.05 | EdLin | lofdev: and unnecessary 9/10ths of the time |
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| 05:05.09 | EksTeSi | cfdisk /dev/hdb ? |
| 05:05.14 | SC33 | alright thanks |
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| 05:05.20 | lofdev | EdLin: right, but still important to know. |
| 05:05.27 | laoxiong | lofdev: you can also configure and build your own kernel in debian. |
| 05:05.29 | kevix | SC33, does 'dmesg' show the hard drive? what does it show up as? /dev/hdc? |
| 05:05.36 | liable | mkke2fs |
| 05:05.46 | liable | err mke2fs |
| 05:05.50 | laoxiong | lofdev: can learn a lot about kernel that way too. |
| 05:05.51 | SC33 | not sure yet, just booting it up now with the new drive in as secondary |
| 05:05.54 | EdLin | lofdev: kernel source is aptable too if you miss configuring your own kernel. :-) |
| 05:05.55 | SC33 | then ill have a look |
| 05:06.26 | lofdev | laoxiong: my point is that gentoo is as painful as it gets. if you can get running with it, everything seems easy afterward. |
| 05:06.36 | kevix | SC33, hopefully you have the 'master'/'slave' jumpers set correctly or there will be problems. |
| 05:06.51 | EksTeSi | yeah I always do IDE HHD |
| 05:06.54 | EksTeSi | HDD |
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| 05:06.59 | EksTeSi | in my bios first |
| 05:07.04 | EksTeSi | get that layer sorted |
| 05:07.08 | EksTeSi | then cfdisk |
| 05:07.11 | laoxiong | lofdev: what the steps in building a kernel with gentoo. |
| 05:07.24 | liable | ask in #gentoo |
| 05:07.27 | EksTeSi | genkernel or the manual way |
| 05:07.43 | EksTeSi | wget soure tarball |
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| 05:08.15 | EdLin | laoxiong: since genkernel is broken your main alternative is compiling it the same distro-independant way everyone else does, though of course Debian offers kp. |
| 05:08.26 | EksTeSi | o man this 2.6.13 is makin me nuts... gonna have to try the 2.6.12.6 |
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| 05:08.38 | EksTeSi | kp ? |
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| 05:08.46 | laoxiong | EdLin: kpkg |
| 05:08.50 | EdLin | !tell EksTeSi about kp mantra |
| 05:09.10 | EksTeSi | crazee |
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| 05:09.41 | djordi | how do i get java onto my debian-sarge install most easily/properly? |
| 05:09.42 | EksTeSi | I never took advantage of deb's kernel magix |
| 05:09.50 | EksTeSi | jaj plugin ? |
| 05:09.54 | EksTeSi | java plugin ? |
| 05:09.59 | djordi | the j2re |
| 05:10.02 | lofdev | laoxiong: in redhat/debian/etc. you don't HAVE to learn what it means to compile a kernel. Gentoo is a unique learning experience, because you HAVE TO do everything yourself. I run Debian exclusively now, but wouldn't know crap w/o my gentoo experiences. |
| 05:10.17 | EksTeSi | amen |
| 05:10.18 | djordi | i guess. i want to get azureus running but it requires java which is "uninstallable" |
| 05:10.26 | EdLin | !topicsmite djordi |
| 05:10.27 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon djordi. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 05:10.44 | chance2105 | So I'm plugging in a USB joystick .. there's no corresponding /dev/ entry. dmesg shows the device being recognized by the usbhid driver .. not sure where to go from here to figure out where the missing device node is. |
| 05:10.58 | lofdev | dpkg: java |
| 05:10.58 | dpkg | i guess java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 05:11.06 | lofdev | dpkg: install java |
| 05:11.06 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 05:11.20 | lofdev | dpkg: java-package |
| 05:11.20 | dpkg | somebody said java-package was a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 05:11.28 | lofdev | djordi: there you go. |
| 05:11.34 | djordi | ok, processing |
| 05:11.35 | EksTeSi | wowee |
| 05:11.54 | EdLin | dpkg: you rock |
| 05:12.00 | chance2105 | oh, and djordi btw, make-jpkg |
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| 05:12.36 | EksTeSi | fo sure |
| 05:12.40 | lofdev | djordi: do the fakeroot make-jpg, though |
| 05:12.45 | djordi | ok |
| 05:12.54 | djordi | jpkg |
| 05:12.55 | vladuz976_ | can anybody tell me what the major differences between ubuntu and debian are? |
| 05:13.28 | EdLin | vladuz976_: ubuntu is very GNOME-centric and officially supports less packages, that's the disadvantage. |
| 05:13.35 | laoxiong | djordi: go to sun java website and download j2re direct. it will also teach you how to install. |
| 05:13.47 | EksTeSi | yeah I did it that way |
| 05:13.54 | EksTeSi | manually... |
| 05:14.06 | EdLin | vladuz976_: on the other hand, what it does support they update on a 6 month schedule. |
| 05:14.08 | vladuz976_ | EdLin, but i can still use whichever wm i wish |
| 05:14.18 | vladuz976_ | EdLin, and debian? |
| 05:14.27 | EdLin | vladuz976_: yes, but if you don't like GNOME that's the whole point of Ubuntu. |
| 05:14.28 | chance2105 | make-jpkg all the way. It installs java automatically, everywhere you would expect it be .. everywhere you would want it to be, but didn't think of when you were installing it in /opt/ :) |
| 05:14.47 | EksTeSi | isn't ubunto a liveCD ? |
| 05:14.52 | EdLin | vladuz976_: what answer do you think you'll get on a #debian channel? |
| 05:14.52 | vladuz976_ | EdLin, what do you mean by that is the whole point of ubuntu? |
| 05:15.05 | EdLin | EksTeSi: ubuntu offers both a live CD and an install CD |
| 05:15.06 | kevix | vladuz976_, ubuntu only supports a small subset of debian arch (i386,ppc,amd64) and is comprised of maybe less than 200 developers working on less that 1000 packages targeting desktop users. |
| 05:15.08 | vladuz976_ | EdLin, hopefully an honest one |
| 05:15.21 | vladuz976_ | kevix, and debian? |
| 05:15.22 | djordi | reading |
| 05:15.24 | EdLin | vladuz976_: the whole point of running Ubuntu is running a more up to date GNOME |
| 05:15.25 | EksTeSi | interesting... maybe i'll jail one of those up in my vm machines |
| 05:15.38 | EdLin | vladuz976_: if you don't like GNOME its pretty silly to run Ubuntu |
| 05:15.53 | EksTeSi | use gentoo for bleeding edge gnome |
| 05:16.02 | vladuz976_ | EdLin, i don't like it and i haven't tried kde, i am using e17 now |
| 05:16.10 | chance2105 | Ok .. udev is supposed to create a device node for stuff automatically, even if a udev rule doesn't exist.. so umm .. I had to do it earlier today to get a device node for a LT modem getup. What gives? |
| 05:16.20 | EksTeSi | e17 is mental |
| 05:16.28 | EksTeSi | but my firefox fonts went all nuts |
| 05:16.29 | vladuz976_ | what you mean? |
| 05:16.31 | EksTeSi | what's that about ? |
| 05:16.38 | kevix | vladuz976_, debian suports 11+ archs(arm,sh,s390,..) have 15000 packages, has 1000+ developers and releases about every 18 months. ubuntu releases every 6 months. |
| 05:17.11 | chance2105 | Releases about every 18 months? ::shifty eyes:: |
| 05:17.12 | EksTeSi | isn't ubuntu based on deb ? |
| 05:17.16 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:17.17 | kevix | EdLin, there is kubuntu ! |
| 05:17.33 | vladuz976_ | kevix, so ubuntu releases every 6 months no matter what? even if the new software is not stable yet? |
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| 05:17.40 | EksTeSi | yeah deb has new ppl on the team.. should be every 18 now |
| 05:17.58 | vladuz976_ | kevix, why kubuntu if i don't use kde |
| 05:17.59 | EdLin | kevix: yes, it's the KDE counterpart of Ubuntu. Its buggy at present from what little I've heard of it. |
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| 05:18.13 | kevix | vladuz976_, they get a snapshort of 'sid'/unstable from debian and work on that. They are focused on 6mo releases. |
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| 05:18.47 | vladuz976_ | kevix, what is sid? |
| 05:18.51 | kevix | EdLin, yup. |
| 05:19.01 | vladuz976_ | kevix, oh the unstable version |
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| 05:19.30 | FarrisG | Anyone know why my Gnome command line applet won't let me type in the command box? |
| 05:19.34 | DedBobFan | I tried to change my mouse configuration and now have no mouse. I am on a different OS right now, how can i fix my sarge? |
| 05:19.46 | kevix | vladuz976_, there is also a large overlap of developers between ubuntu and debian. |
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| 05:19.55 | vladuz976_ | so what is the default wm in debian? |
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| 05:20.07 | EksTeSi | is it windowmaker ? |
| 05:20.14 | EdLin | vladuz976_: Debian does not force any wm on you, you can pick what you want |
| 05:20.27 | EksTeSi | twm |
| 05:20.28 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:20.29 | EdLin | EksTeSi: no, though windowmaker does have a debianized theme |
| 05:20.40 | EksTeSi | werd I always seemed to end up in that |
| 05:20.42 | kevix | vladuz976_, it depends upon how you install it. |
| 05:20.42 | EksTeSi | or twm |
| 05:21.28 | EdLin | EksTeSi: if you don't want twm and some rarely used programs, install x-window-system-core with your choices of wm and xterm. |
| 05:21.42 | vladuz976_ | so the new debian installer is pretty easy to handle? |
| 05:21.43 | kevix | vladuz976_, but if you install the minimum (x-window-system-core) you get twm |
| 05:21.58 | c01100011 | what is the best route for nvidia drivers. ive used the installer in the past but have been told not to |
| 05:22.06 | EdLin | kevix: that's incorrect, twm is in x-window-system metapackage, not -core. |
| 05:22.09 | EksTeSi | installer has worked for me |
| 05:22.13 | EksTeSi | for nvidia |
| 05:22.18 | kevix | EdLin, my bad. |
| 05:22.23 | EksTeSi | u gotta have your kernel source though I think |
| 05:22.36 | EdLin | EksTeSi: only the kernel headers are needed for nvidia. |
| 05:22.42 | EksTeSi | ic |
| 05:22.47 | EdLin | !ic |
| 05:22.47 | dpkg | ic is, like, (AKA) 'slurpy' or a conspiracy by the Indo-American community to take over your neighborhood via inexpensive groceries and snacks, or Integrated Circuit or "I see" for MORONS who are too lazy to type properly (I C) |
| 05:22.54 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:23.02 | EksTeSi | yea yea heard it b4 |
| 05:23.07 | EksTeSi | u got 1 for b4 ? |
| 05:23.09 | EksTeSi | hehe |
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| 05:23.15 | DedBobFan | need help getting back mouse in debian sarge...n00b here, please help |
| 05:23.16 | EdLin | !b4 |
| 05:23.16 | dpkg | try "before", moron. B4 I17 N34 G58 O69 .... BINGO! |
| 05:23.20 | EksTeSi | haha |
| 05:23.24 | EksTeSi | nice1 |
| 05:23.29 | kevix | c01100011, you can first try the free 'nv' drivers (no accell) and then 'apt-get install module-assistant' to get the nvidia ones. |
| 05:23.36 | c01100011 | yeah. i know how to use the installer. it is just whether the kernel module is a better choice |
| 05:24.13 | EksTeSi | woo hoo the gizmo linux is out |
| 05:24.15 | EksTeSi | http://www.gizmoproject.com/download.php |
| 05:24.20 | EksTeSi | and even a deb package |
| 05:24.25 | c01100011 | kevinx- does the module still breax xmms ? |
| 05:24.29 | kevix | DedBobFan, what did you do to disable the mouse? |
| 05:24.35 | DedBobFan | well, |
| 05:24.45 | EdLin | vladuz976_: the sarge installer is easier, but it is text mode - hopefully you aren't text-mode phobic. :-) |
| 05:24.54 | vladuz976_ | EdLin, no |
| 05:25.11 | DedBobFan | i tried to enable the mouse wheel, and somehow messed up the thing. i really am not sure it worked till reboot |
| 05:25.19 | EksTeSi | yeah I did the sarge netinstall 6 times the other night.. much much easier |
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| 05:25.25 | EdLin | vladuz976_: OK, then go download it and give it a try. :-) |
| 05:25.31 | kevix | c01100011, dont know. check bugs.debian.org to see if any specific version is noted. |
| 05:25.36 | c01100011 | dedbob- your etc/X11/... file ? |
| 05:25.41 | DedBobFan | i used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i think |
| 05:25.43 | vladuz976_ | EdLin, i have the dvd from LINUX magazine |
| 05:26.21 | c01100011 | DedBobFan - did you mannually edit XF86Config-4 ? |
| 05:26.46 | EdLin | vladuz976_: I've never installed Debian from a non-netinstall CD before, I suppose it's about the same but with less net accessing. |
| 05:26.49 | kevix | DedBobFan, sounds like you messup /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
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| 05:27.04 | DedBobFan | i tried and it would not let me. i made so many changes earlier today, i installed other apps. i dont know what to try??? :( |
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| 05:27.21 | EksTeSi | I know that feelin... |
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| 05:27.24 | DedBobFan | i am lost without mouse |
| 05:27.30 | kevix | DedBobFan, then run 'dpkg-reconfigure ...' again the undo the error. |
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| 05:27.46 | EksTeSi | got into some major cp of my configs after a few bad times of that |
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| 05:27.52 | DedBobFan | how do i do that, i can log-in, but then how can i launch terminal? |
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| 05:28.04 | EksTeSi | is it a remote machine ? |
| 05:28.18 | DedBobFan | desktop - if you were asking me |
| 05:28.28 | EksTeSi | cntrl-alt F1 |
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| 05:28.39 | DedBobFan | that will launch terminal? |
| 05:28.42 | EksTeSi | should |
| 05:28.53 | EksTeSi | am I right debianers ? |
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| 05:28.58 | DedBobFan | excellent ! i will give it a go. thanks everyone |
| 05:29.03 | kevix | DedBobFan, does X (and kde or gnome) start up? or is it stuck in the console? |
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| 05:29.27 | DedBobFan | i can log-in through login manager?? then it launches gnome |
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| 05:29.39 | EksTeSi | weird |
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| 05:29.48 | EksTeSi | does the xdm show you the mouse ? |
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| 05:29.52 | DedBobFan | i can get to the desktop, i just have no mouse |
| 05:29.58 | DedBobFan | xdm? |
| 05:30.04 | EksTeSi | before you login does it have the mouse ? |
| 05:30.07 | DedBobFan | no |
| 05:30.08 | kevix | DedBobFan, then you did not screwup XF86Config-4 totally! |
| 05:30.13 | DedBobFan | :) |
| 05:30.22 | EksTeSi | usb mouse ? |
| 05:30.29 | DedBobFan | <>embarrassed> ps/2 |
| 05:30.48 | DedBobFan | all i wanted was mouse wheel scroll.... :( |
| 05:30.56 | DedBobFan | <WAAHHHHHHH!!!!!> |
| 05:30.57 | EksTeSi | heh that is worth getting |
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| 05:31.11 | DedBobFan | right, should work by default i think |
| 05:31.26 | DedBobFan | (for us n00b's) |
| 05:31.33 | vortek | Is there any Any way to run fish:// With out All the BLOAT ware of kde or is there an alternative ? |
| 05:31.38 | EksTeSi | i think you need the ImPs/2 protocol or something ? |
| 05:31.45 | EksTeSi | dunno can't remember |
| 05:31.49 | kevix | DedBobFan, I think Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 05:31.52 | DedBobFan | i believe , from my reading, imps/2 |
| 05:31.53 | ke6isf | !fish |
| 05:31.53 | dpkg | somebody said fish was FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or http://edulinux.homeunix.org/fish.html |
| 05:32.13 | kevix | DedBobFan, Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" |
| 05:32.35 | DedBobFan | kevix,where do i do this? |
| 05:32.44 | ke6isf | Looks that URL fell out of homeunix. |
| 05:32.46 | DedBobFan | ctrl -alt-f1 ? |
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| 05:33.03 | ke6isf | !drxx DedBobFan |
| 05:33.04 | EksTeSi | that will give you a term |
| 05:33.04 | dpkg | DedBobFan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 05:33.05 | EksTeSi | login |
| 05:33.09 | kevix | DedBobFan, in the Section "InputDevice" for 'mouse' |
| 05:33.10 | EksTeSi | and edit your file |
| 05:33.14 | EksTeSi | maybe do abackup |
| 05:33.22 | EksTeSi | in case you break it worse |
| 05:33.26 | ke6isf | DedBobFan: That is how you can alter the XF86 config without hosing it too badly. |
| 05:33.40 | vortek | ke6isf: that link is busted |
| 05:33.53 | vortek | I mean do I realy need to install KDE to ues fish protocol ? |
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| 05:34.11 | DedBobFan | ok, i will learn to backup... :) i will try all these ideas now , hopefully be back with mouse :) thanks a million guys! |
| 05:34.18 | EksTeSi | vortek : why u want fish:// ? |
| 05:34.31 | vortek | EksTeSi: you got an alternatice ? |
| 05:34.37 | vortek | er alternative |
| 05:34.42 | EksTeSi | maybe... what u tryin to do ? |
| 05:34.45 | EksTeSi | scp stuff ? |
| 05:34.54 | cat | where can i open up a port on /etc/? |
| 05:34.59 | cat | with iptables isn't working |
| 05:35.08 | ke6isf | vortek: Yeah, I'm aware of the breakage. Thing is, I don't even know what fish protocol is. |
| 05:35.54 | vortek | ke6isf: its like ssh file manager remote |
| 05:36.10 | liable | cat: install a frontend for iptables.. |
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| 05:36.32 | cat | liable: like what? |
| 05:36.36 | EksTeSi | vortek : i am looking for a decent drag n drop ssh/scp app.. I was using gFTP |
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| 05:36.51 | vortek | gftp does that ? |
| 05:36.54 | liable | shoewall, firehole, firestarter, guarddog.. |
| 05:36.57 | EksTeSi | a bit weird... but did eventually work.. although I crash a server connecting |
| 05:37.01 | liable | shorewall even |
| 05:37.07 | EksTeSi | in gFTP you can specify ftp,http,ssh |
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| 05:37.46 | vortek | EksTeSi: can you easily browse files and such ? |
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| 05:37.57 | cat | liable: like what? |
| 05:38.00 | EksTeSi | just like any other ftp client my friend : ) |
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| 05:38.12 | liable | cat: see my previous post. |
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| 05:39.30 | EksTeSi | gftp has ftp,ftps,http,https,local,ssh2,fsp |
| 05:39.35 | EksTeSi | wtf is fsp ? |
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| 05:39.57 | EksTeSi | that is for gftp 2.0.18 just installed it : ) |
| 05:40.09 | cat | liable: doesn't work |
| 05:40.38 | EksTeSi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.00 | EksTeSi | FSP is what anonymous FTP *should* be |
| 05:41.02 | EksTeSi | cool |
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| 05:41.27 | cat | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.30 | cat | is it right? |
| 05:41.54 | rixth | Oh I'm so tempted to get the Google toolbar for FF. But I don't want any of the tracking bullshit |
| 05:41.55 | TwistedEmotions | --sport hockey |
| 05:42.04 | EksTeSi | heh |
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| 05:42.25 | vortek | thanxs |
| 05:42.31 | TwistedEmotions | you know... hockey.. pass the ping back and forth.. |
| 05:42.47 | TwistedEmotions | ;) Weeee.. gnite.. going to get drunk. |
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| 05:43.18 | EdLin | TwistedEmotions: who's going to drink you? |
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| 05:45.04 | lofdev | can someone remind me why I put up with all these undocumented dependencies???? :( |
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| 05:45.27 | valdyn | !vagueness |
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| 05:45.39 | valdyn | !test |
| 05:45.40 | dpkg | No, valdyn, you're not online any more. |
| 05:46.01 | hyperstream | trying to compile ccd2iso (CloneCD image to ISO) its asking for aclocal-1.6 i installed the latest automake package. but all i have is aclocal-1.4 and aclocal-1.9 |
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| 05:46.40 | valdyn | hyperstream: debian has no 'automake' package |
| 05:46.48 | dabaRCo | I would like to set up ez-ipupdate, but I have a router, can I set that up anyhow? the interfaces I have on my computer are all internal... |
| 05:47.01 | LightVision | is there a good program for Debian that can shrink VOB files? |
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| 05:47.16 | lofdev | LightVision: vobcopy and transcode |
| 05:47.18 | herbi | ugh |
| 05:47.24 | LightVision | lofdev: ok ty |
| 05:47.25 | herbi | a mate of mine did an apt-get upgrade |
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| 05:47.35 | DedBobFan | :( |
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| 05:47.43 | herbi | and now his modules for soundcard and network dont autodetect/load on bootup |
| 05:47.46 | herbi | any ideas? |
| 05:47.48 | DedBobFan | i need some more help..... |
| 05:47.53 | lofdev | LightVision: use xvid codec in transcode |
| 05:47.58 | LightVision | lofdev: do I need both? |
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| 05:48.13 | LightVision | lofdev: is vobcopy reliant on transcode? |
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| 05:48.32 | valdyn | hyperstream: hint: apt-get install automake-1.9 |
| 05:48.35 | lofdev | LightVision: vobcopy is the easies way I've found to get vobs off dvds |
| 05:48.37 | DedBobFan | kevix, can you help me more please? |
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| 05:48.40 | cat | can someone help me to open up a port |
| 05:48.55 | LightVision | lofdev: no I already have the vob files |
| 05:49.01 | lofdev | LightVision: transcode is awesome for reencoding the vob to an avi or something |
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| 05:49.15 | LightVision | lofdev: im after something that can shrink the vob files once on hard drive! any ideas? |
| 05:49.26 | LightVision | lofdev: ok ill trye transcode |
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| 05:49.42 | LightVision | lofdev: does transcode need vobcopy? |
| 05:49.54 | lofdev | just trying to copy dvds to blank disks? i've never done specifically that |
| 05:50.07 | lofdev | LightVision: but I expect that transcode could do it |
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| 05:50.38 | LightVision | lofdev: is there a GUI front end for transcode? |
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| 05:50.56 | hyperstream | make[2]: LIBTOOL@: Command not found |
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| 05:50.57 | LightVision | lofdev: i dont want to do that either :P lol |
| 05:50.59 | valdyn | dvdshrink works fine on wine btw, transcode will 'reencode' which you probably dont want.. |
| 05:51.06 | LightVision | lofdev: im after something that can shrink the vob files once on hard drive! |
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| 05:51.18 | lofdev | LightVision: not that I know of, but it's truly easy from command line and |
| 05:51.30 | DedBobFan | I have 2 HDD on this box. One is debian , the other suse 9.1. both systems were installde to their own HDD with no other HDD present at install. i have no mouse in debian, i screwed up the xfree86 config somehow. can i mount the suse HDD from debian and fix my mistakes? |
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| 05:51.36 | LightVision | valdyn: dvdshrink wont work for me under wine! Cant even installl it, gives me errors |
| 05:51.42 | lofdev | LightVision: you can nohup the output and let it run in the bg. |
| 05:51.44 | dabaRCo | ez-ipupdate package listens to an interface, and notifies the dynamic dns provider of changes in teh IP of that interface. I however have a router, and only internal IP addresses on my computer, which are static. Can I somehow set ez-ipupdate up to work with my setup? |
| 05:51.59 | EdLin | LightVision: there are some GUIs, "apt-cache search trascode" |
| 05:52.05 | EdLin | transcode* |
| 05:52.06 | valdyn | LightVision: the installer does not iirc, the program does work. |
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| 05:52.46 | EksTeSi | ded : what happened to cntl-alt- f1 ? |
| 05:53.17 | DedBobFan | EksTeSi, when i used it , i was dropped to a command line, and was really lost |
| 05:53.24 | EksTeSi | o |
| 05:53.28 | lofdev | LightVision: what are you going to do with the shrunken vob? xvid or even divx is a better quality-to-space codec than what vobs use |
| 05:53.32 | LightVision | valdyn: yes but it doesnt install for me |
| 05:53.43 | EksTeSi | yeah that is where you might need to do your fixes |
| 05:53.50 | DedBobFan | i am a linux n00b really , i have had suse for awhile but am really ignorant |
| 05:54.01 | LightVision | lofdev: I have 1 1gig VOB file! whats the best way to shrink this so that it will fit on a CD-RW? |
| 05:54.04 | EksTeSi | google it up man.. |
| 05:54.20 | valdyn | LightVision: dvdrip |
| 05:54.37 | DedBobFan | god, if i hear google it up one more time.....if all i do is google what is the point of IRC? |
| 05:54.38 | lofdev | LightVision: transcode -i inputname -o outputname -y xvid |
| 05:54.49 | DedBobFan | i want to talk to PEOPLE |
| 05:54.52 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:55.00 | EksTeSi | ok then |
| 05:55.03 | EksTeSi | go into the cli |
| 05:55.04 | DedBobFan | :) |
| 05:55.06 | EksTeSi | run |
| 05:55.13 | LightVision | lofdev: cool thanks |
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| 05:55.14 | valdyn | DedBobFan: /j #cyber |
| 05:55.18 | lofdev | LightVision: transcode from VOB to xvid will collapse the file about 55% |
| 05:55.20 | EksTeSi | vi /etc/X11/XF hit [tab] |
| 05:55.31 | LightVision | lofdev: ok and then how do you play it? |
| 05:55.37 | EksTeSi | and then start trying stuff u learned from googlin it up |
| 05:55.44 | EksTeSi | but backup your stuff |
| 05:55.51 | hyperstream | LIBTOOL@: Command not found |
| 05:56.05 | lofdev | LightVision: I use totem or vlc or whatever on the pc |
| 05:56.09 | DedBobFan | valdyn, what is /j #cyber ? |
| 05:56.15 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:56.17 | EksTeSi | try it |
| 05:56.24 | EdLin | !tell EksTeSi -about u |
| 05:56.39 | lofdev | LightVision: if you are trying to get it back to a disc that'll play on a set-top box, you might just go buy a DVD burner |
| 05:56.48 | EksTeSi | yeah i got it edlin |
| 05:56.49 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:56.53 | valdyn | DedBobFan: why didnt you just Ctrl-Alt-F1 to escape your not working X? |
| 05:56.53 | lofdev | LightVision: save yourself the headache that way |
| 05:57.06 | LightVision | lofdev: ok |
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| 05:57.15 | EksTeSi | val : he's afraid of some CLI |
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| 05:57.19 | DedBobFan | valdyn, i did. but lost at command prompt - i am really new |
| 05:57.27 | lofdev | LightVision: you;ll want to apt-get install ffmpeg too first |
| 05:57.29 | LightVision | lofdev: can U turn a VOB file into something that can be used to make a VideoCD? |
| 05:57.30 | DedBobFan | CLI? |
| 05:57.31 | *** part/#debian jeffrin (n=jeffrin@202.83.62.244) |
| 05:57.39 | LightVision | lofdev: whats ffmpeg? |
| 05:57.45 | *** part/#debian wtyler (n=wtyler@dsl-154-52.peak.org) |
| 05:57.47 | valdyn | DedBobFan: you wont get around command prompts in debian, so either learn the basics about it or dont use debian |
| 05:57.48 | EksTeSi | CLI = command line interface |
| 05:57.50 | lofdev | LightVision: you can, but you will KILL quality. |
| 05:57.53 | EdLin | !tell EksTeSi about tab completion |
| 05:58.11 | eXistenZ | hello, when I use the snapshot tool in adobe reader and try to copy it into openoffice it says the "format is not supported". Is it possible that it doesn't support bitmap? |
| 05:58.14 | valdyn | DedBobFan: Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in as root and |
| 05:58.15 | EdLin | EksTeSi: oops |
| 05:58.17 | lofdev | LightVision: ffmpeg is an mpeg-4 codec package |
| 05:58.19 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 05:58.20 | valdyn | !drxx DedBobFan |
| 05:58.21 | dpkg | DedBobFan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 05:58.23 | DedBobFan | valdyn, i am not opposed to learning commands. |
| 05:58.44 | DedBobFan | dpkg, do i have to CD to do this ? |
| 05:58.45 | EksTeSi | there u go try that set of commands |
| 05:58.50 | valdyn | DedBobFan: ^^^ read what dpkg and I told you, not overly hard. |
| 05:58.52 | compguymac | hey, i just installed debian and i have a nvidia driver, i tried using the linux driver from nvidia.com and its not working, anyone know what i should do to get the driver installed so i can get in xwindows? |
| 05:59.17 | DedBobFan | valdyn, no need to get impatient...with the n00b asking for help here |
| 05:59.27 | EdLin | !not working |
| 05:59.27 | EksTeSi | you need to make sure your kernel is loading the nv module |
| 05:59.27 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:59.29 | valdyn | compguymac: use the uninstall feature of that driver and read the faq |
| 05:59.46 | compguymac | uninstall? it never installed |
| 05:59.55 | valdyn | DedBobFan: im not impatient, im trying to give precise instructions. |
| 06:00.06 | DedBobFan | valdyn,my mistake.sorry |
| 06:00.09 | LightVision | lofdev: so what program do I get to use ffmpeg? |
| 06:00.23 | ke6isf | !nvidia compguymac |
| 06:00.24 | DedBobFan | i guess I am getting impatient |
| 06:00.24 | valdyn | LightVision: mplayer / transcode |
| 06:00.28 | |mario| | i am new |
| 06:00.29 | EksTeSi | ded : run this |
| 06:00.29 | ke6isf | dang, that doesn't work. |
| 06:00.32 | EksTeSi | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 06:00.35 | ke6isf | !tell compguymac -about nvidia |
| 06:00.38 | EksTeSi | from your CLI |
| 06:00.47 | lofdev | LightVision: just apt-get install ffmpeg |
| 06:00.50 | DedBobFan | please define CLI |
| 06:00.52 | LightVision | valdyn: ok thanks |
| 06:00.54 | EksTeSi | I didi |
| 06:00.57 | EksTeSi | scroll up |
| 06:00.59 | LightVision | lofdev: ok done |
| 06:01.02 | ke6isf | !cli |
| 06:01.02 | dpkg | methinks cli is a Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around, of course Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's ODBC standard. an x86 assembly instruction Common Language Infrastructure (See mono or .net), or http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6282&page=1 |
| 06:01.06 | lofdev | LightVision: then totem & vlc et al will use the codec |
| 06:01.13 | hyperstream | when im configuring ccd2iso i get this: ./configure: line 2801: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL: command not found |
| 06:01.16 | LightVision | lofdev: so totem and vlc will use ffmpeg autoatically? |
| 06:01.20 | compguymac | what? |
| 06:01.27 | LightVision | lofdev: Ok got it :) ty |
| 06:01.34 | DedBobFan | dpkg, good answer ! thats the kind of stuff i want to know ! |
| 06:01.45 | EksTeSi | leave it to MS to bastardize up stuff |
| 06:01.48 | valdyn | LightVision: ffmpeg gets used by about any tool that deals with video anyway ( xine / totem / mplayer / transcode / vlc etc. ) |
| 06:01.49 | lofdev | LightVision: sure. check that you can get transcode. I think it's a foreign package |
| 06:01.50 | Eclipser | DedBobFan, just in case you didn't know, dpkg is a bot :) |
| 06:01.53 | ke6isf | DedBobFan: ...um, dpkg is a bot, dude. |
| 06:02.00 | DedBobFan | really? |
| 06:02.02 | LightVision | lofdev: and when I play vob files and DVD from DVD drive, the video is slow and choppy! Will ffmpeg help with that too? |
| 06:02.07 | ke6isf | !what are you |
| 06:02.07 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 06:02.08 | lofdev | LightVision: you might need to manually add an apt-soucre |
| 06:02.19 | DedBobFan | i am n00b, feel me roar |
| 06:02.25 | Eclipser | :) |
| 06:02.27 | LightVision | lofdev: im using Sarge, and transcode is already installed |
| 06:02.29 | ke6isf | DedBobFan: Welcome to hell! |
| 06:02.37 | DedBobFan | I rather like the climate |
| 06:02.48 | ke6isf | !beer DedBobFan |
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| 06:02.49 | lofdev | LightVision: really? cool. |
| 06:02.51 | valdyn | LightVision: when your video is sloppy there can be a couple reasons. What tool are you using to play back? |
| 06:02.56 | DedBobFan | Just wait till i learn how to open portals of hell for myself |
| 06:03.02 | ke6isf | DedBobFan: And the bot even serves good beer, wine, and coffee! |
| 06:03.18 | lofdev | LightVision: how new is your HW? |
| 06:03.18 | DedBobFan | Thats friggin amazing ! make it give me a whore ! |
| 06:03.22 | EksTeSi | mambo portals of hell |
| 06:03.28 | DedBobFan | A MUTE WHORE |
| 06:03.32 | EksTeSi | hehe |
| 06:03.37 | compguymac | anyone? |
| 06:03.38 | EksTeSi | a blind mute whore |
| 06:03.38 | ke6isf | DedBobFan: He doesn't pimp, sorry. |
| 06:03.39 | LightVision | valdyn: ive tried Kaffine, kaboodle and mplayer! all slow and choppy |
| 06:03.42 | DedBobFan | LOL |
| 06:03.49 | LightVision | lofdev: about 2 years old |
| 06:03.59 | EdLin | !lol |
| 06:03.59 | dpkg | lol stands for Lamer On Line. Everytime someone says lol, greycat kills a Knoppix user. |
| 06:04.10 | LightVision | Noatun plays the fastest |
| 06:04.11 | ke6isf | lol! |
| 06:04.15 | LightVision | yet still slow |
| 06:04.15 | lofdev | LightVision: when you take the vob to your HD, how's it play? |
| 06:04.17 | DedBobFan | oh jeez , here we go.... |
| 06:04.18 | ke6isf | compguymac: dpkg should have told you about nvidia. Check your msgs. |
| 06:04.25 | EksTeSi | hmm brings up a question... any1 get mplayer working with the newest wmv codecs ? and where do you get em ? |
| 06:04.29 | DedBobFan | al least i didnt say "hey room" |
| 06:04.39 | DedBobFan | we all come from somewhere |
| 06:04.40 | LightVision | lofdev: it plays great! bit at full screen slow! at half screen perfect |
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| 06:05.01 | valdyn | LightVision: ok, since i dont know the others to well, try 3 things: mplayer -vo xv some.vob, mplayer -cache 8192 some.vob, mplayer -vo xv -cache 8192 some.vob |
| 06:05.04 | EksTeSi | maybe your cpu can't handle the truth |
| 06:05.16 | lofdev | LightVision: what's the spec on your dvd drive? |
| 06:05.28 | LightVision | lofdev: 48X |
| 06:05.34 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, did mkinitrd resolve your issue earlyer? |
| 06:05.38 | EksTeSi | nope |
| 06:05.43 | LightVision | lofdev: 48x/24x/48x/16x |
| 06:05.44 | EksTeSi | different error though |
| 06:05.53 | hyperstream | kernel panic? |
| 06:05.55 | EksTeSi | so now compilin 2.6.12.6 |
| 06:06.02 | ke6isf | !kernel panic |
| 06:06.02 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kernel panic is at http://www.kernel-panic.com/links/Programming/C/, or <reply> sudo dd if=/proc/kmem of=/dev/mem, or dunno, never seen it Aiee, killing interrupt handler!, or see "norootfs" for messages about no root filesystem. |
| 06:06.06 | EksTeSi | yeah says coulnd't mount on 0x83 |
| 06:06.08 | compguymac | how do i update apt-get its kinda like... apt-get && update apt-get or something...? |
| 06:06.13 | lofdev | LightVision: valdyn's suggestio looks like a winner. |
| 06:06.15 | hyperstream | yeah |
| 06:06.22 | ke6isf | compguymac: apt-get update |
| 06:06.23 | LightVision | lofdev: trying that now |
| 06:06.23 | hyperstream | you didnt setup the menu.lst line did you ? :P |
| 06:06.32 | ke6isf | compguymac: This is canonically followed by apt-get upgrade |
| 06:06.32 | EksTeSi | yeah I did that |
| 06:06.37 | EksTeSi | in the .lst |
| 06:06.38 | hyperstream | hmm |
| 06:06.55 | hyperstream | wierd i normaly get that mount error when i have something wrong in the menu.lst |
| 06:06.56 | compguymac | ya, ive done that |
| 06:06.56 | EksTeSi | u think it shoulda worked ? |
| 06:07.05 | EksTeSi | hmm |
| 06:07.06 | hyperstream | or it cannoy find the file in /boot/initrd |
| 06:07.09 | hyperstream | yeah shit yeah |
| 06:07.15 | compguymac | always says 0 , 0, 0, 0 new upgraded and so forth |
| 06:07.16 | hyperstream | stumped me for like 3 days |
| 06:07.22 | hyperstream | and finally hit it |
| 06:07.24 | ke6isf | compguymac: Then it's exactly that. |
| 06:07.26 | LightVision | lofdev: it said It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. |
| 06:07.32 | hyperstream | but try recompile if your already half way thru |
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| 06:07.34 | ke6isf | compguymac: What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 06:07.38 | LightVision | valdyn: using your commands, it said: It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. |
| 06:07.40 | compguymac | um |
| 06:07.43 | EksTeSi | wait a sec |
| 06:07.43 | hyperstream | prolly get same error on 2.6.12.6 |
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| 06:07.49 | hyperstream | k |
| 06:07.50 | EksTeSi | I don't think I have that line |
| 06:07.53 | EksTeSi | duh |
| 06:07.54 | valdyn | LightVision: good to know that part, which video driver are you using? |
| 06:07.55 | compguymac | what is the command to find out? |
| 06:07.58 | EksTeSi | wtf crack am I smokin |
| 06:07.58 | compguymac | i forget |
| 06:07.58 | hyperstream | :P |
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| 06:08.04 | valdyn | LightVision: oh and which gfx card? |
| 06:08.06 | hyperstream | lolol |
| 06:08.09 | ke6isf | compguymac: Do Sarge, Etch, or Sid ring a bell? |
| 06:08.13 | EksTeSi | damn cheap crack I keep buying.. I need some good sh$%t |
| 06:08.17 | EksTeSi | brb |
| 06:08.17 | hyperstream | want me to get one of my examples from my menu.lst? |
| 06:08.23 | hyperstream | k |
| 06:08.23 | EksTeSi | nope 1 sec |
| 06:08.27 | compguymac | yes |
| 06:08.28 | DedBobFan | can i fix the mouse problem from the SUSE install i am using right now, if so can someone please tell me the right commands to mount the drive that SUSE is on so i can try to fix my mouse problem |
| 06:08.33 | compguymac | im lost though |
| 06:08.46 | LightVision | valdyn: 3d prophet |
| 06:08.53 | DedBobFan | <with DEBIAN> |
| 06:08.53 | LightVision | valdyn: 3d prophet kyro |
| 06:08.58 | ke6isf | compguymac: ok, 'cat /etc/debian_version' |
| 06:09.09 | EksTeSi | init 6 |
| 06:09.09 | QuietByDay | quick, how do i display my domain and hostname info in a terminal? |
| 06:09.14 | EksTeSi | see what ahppens this time |
| 06:09.15 | EksTeSi | geesus |
| 06:09.18 | compguymac | 3.1 |
| 06:09.23 | ke6isf | compguymac: Good, sarge. |
| 06:09.26 | valdyn | LightVision: 'lspci | grep -i vga' |
| 06:09.32 | EksTeSi | ded : |
| 06:09.35 | compguymac | o, ya, i did like they said |
| 06:09.39 | EksTeSi | ded : no I wouldn't do it that way |
| 06:09.45 | lofdev | ls |
| 06:09.50 | EksTeSi | go through the CLI... you can't avoid it |
| 06:09.50 | ke6isf | compguymac: If you're seeing no new updates, there are no new updates. There's really not much to do about that, since sarge doesn't tend to have many updates beyond security stuff. |
| 06:09.51 | lofdev | oops. sorry. |
| 06:09.59 | lakcaj | QuietByDay, hostname, dnsdomainname |
| 06:10.04 | DedBobFan | <and sorry for typing slow, i have a handicapped right hand> |
| 06:10.08 | EksTeSi | do not fear my friend.... CLI is your friend.. even though it can be dark in there |
| 06:10.13 | EksTeSi | there is always light |
| 06:10.18 | compguymac | ok, well im super stumped about this video driver |
| 06:10.19 | LightVision | valdyn: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: STMicroelectronics STG4000 [3D Prophet Kyro Series] (rev 01 |
| 06:10.20 | EksTeSi | if only from the text |
| 06:10.24 | ke6isf | !nvidia |
| 06:10.24 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 06:10.36 | ke6isf | compguymac: Did dpkg send you any privmsgs? |
| 06:10.39 | compguymac | ya |
| 06:10.52 | ke6isf | compguymac: OK, read it. Especially the one about nvidia. Follow the instructions. |
| 06:11.00 | EksTeSi | hyerp : that worked !! |
| 06:11.00 | compguymac | there are no instructions |
| 06:11.03 | EksTeSi | damn |
| 06:11.05 | EksTeSi | awesome |
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| 06:11.08 | EksTeSi | 2.6.13 |
| 06:11.09 | compguymac | its just a quote from some guy |
| 06:11.14 | ke6isf | *sigh |
| 06:11.19 | EksTeSi | k let's see what breaks next |
| 06:11.30 | ke6isf | !tell compguymac about nvidia one-liner |
| 06:11.33 | ke6isf | !tell compguymac about nvidia-howto |
| 06:11.36 | lofdev | does anyone know how to get faad2 installed? |
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| 06:11.52 | EksTeSi | what's faad2 ? |
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| 06:12.00 | LightVision | valdyn: any solution? |
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| 06:12.01 | Hydroxide | !tell lofdev about marillat |
| 06:12.23 | EksTeSi | FAAC is an Advanced Audio Coder (MPEG2-AAC, MPEG4-AAC). The goal of FAAC is to explore the possibilities of AAC and exceed the quality of the currently best MP3 encoders. |
| 06:12.25 | compguymac | ok, i got 2 from you |
| 06:12.26 | EksTeSi | coool |
| 06:12.31 | compguymac | second one is ok to follow? |
| 06:12.42 | EksTeSi | needed this the other day for www.ravetrax.com |
| 06:12.42 | compguymac | instead of one-liner |
| 06:12.49 | EksTeSi | they use AAC |
| 06:12.54 | LightVision | valdyn: is it slow and choppy my videos because my video card is crappy? :) |
| 06:12.56 | Hydroxide | lofdev: that repository dpkg just told you about has faad2 (probably just called faad in the binary package name) |
| 06:12.56 | lofdev | EksTeSi: right. now how to make mpd (music player daemon) SEE it. |
| 06:12.58 | ke6isf | compguymac: As expected, and as far as I know, yeah - but the one liner is simple enough, I suppose. (disclaimer: I don't do nvidia) |
| 06:13.02 | valdyn | LightVision: nope, not right now, you are probably using the vesa driver, which will be to slow to play dvd video. I doubt that hardware is supported in xfree or xorg |
| 06:13.09 | DedBobFan | Oh well, i think maybe I am not in the right frame of mind for all this tonight. But i appreciate everyones help. maybe sarge will do "battle with the n00b" another day. Thanks everyone :) |
| 06:13.30 | LightVision | valdyn: when I installed Debian Sarge, I did chose VESA, because I didnt know what else to chose |
| 06:13.44 | LightVision | valdyn: should I have chosen something else? |
| 06:13.49 | Hydroxide | lofdev: of course, if you're in the US, then you'll have to take the risk of violating software patents if you use that repository. that's not something I'm going to give you advice on. |
| 06:13.50 | valdyn | LightVision: yea exactly, might be the only choice to drive that card. I dont know. |
| 06:13.58 | ke6isf | LightVision: Does 'lspci' say anything about your video card? |
| 06:14.18 | EksTeSi | gent2rox ekstesi # emerge search faad2 |
| 06:14.18 | EksTeSi | * media-libs/faad2 |
| 06:14.18 | EksTeSi | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.18 | EksTeSi | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.18 | *** kick/#debian [EksTeSi!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 06:14.29 | LightVision | ke6isf: yes about 6lines |
| 06:14.32 | lofdev | Hydroxide: I just want to hear my music. |
| 06:14.40 | LightVision | ke6isf: where can I show you? |
| 06:14.50 | Hydroxide | lofdev: it will work. |
| 06:14.51 | ke6isf | LightVision: /j #flood |
| 06:14.51 | LightVision | ke6isf: in #floods? |
| 06:15.03 | ke6isf | LightVision: #flood , not #floods |
| 06:15.03 | lofdev | Hydroxide: thanks for the help. I just add that to my sources??? |
| 06:15.08 | valdyn | !kyro |
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| 06:15.24 | LightVision | ke6isf: hehe ok ;) |
| 06:15.26 | EksTeSi | oops |
| 06:15.28 | EksTeSi | hehe |
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| 06:15.34 | EksTeSi | shoulda known |
| 06:15.56 | EksTeSi | ahh finally... salvation my zaptel drivers are compilin |
| 06:16.01 | EksTeSi | 2 days @ this |
| 06:16.01 | ke6isf | !gentoosmite EksTeSi |
| 06:16.16 | EksTeSi | heh |
| 06:16.17 | LightVision | lofdev: thanks anyway for trying to help. appreciate it |
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| 06:16.27 | ke6isf | LightVision: There it is. Secodn to last line. |
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| 06:16.43 | EksTeSi | any1 here run asterisk ? |
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| 06:16.44 | LightVision | ke6isf: yes so what can I do now? |
| 06:16.46 | lofdev | LightVision: got side tracked. where we leave it. |
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| 06:16.53 | Hydroxide | lofdev: you add what it says on that web page to your sources, not the web page itself. and then you have it available, yeah. |
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| 06:17.05 | ke6isf | LightVision: Look for stg4000 or some such in drxx. |
| 06:17.06 | lofdev | Hydroxide: it just .configure -d with faac support. holy cow |
| 06:17.11 | LightVision | lofdev: we left at: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: STMicroelectronics STG4000 [3D Prophet Kyro Series] (rev 01) |
| 06:17.16 | ke6isf | !any1 |
| 06:17.16 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 06:17.23 | LightVision | ke6isf: whats drxx? :P |
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| 06:17.24 | ke6isf | !tell EksTeSi -about polls |
| 06:17.29 | ke6isf | !tell LightVision -about drxx |
| 06:17.50 | EksTeSi | u guys are relentless |
| 06:18.20 | EksTeSi | but I am learning |
| 06:18.20 | EksTeSi | : ) |
| 06:18.20 | valdyn | LightVision: 3rd party drivers do exist for your card |
| 06:18.20 | compguymac | im following the instructions, and it says to type: apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-source but it says W: unable to locate package nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 06:18.20 | lofdev | Hydroxide: I will now break with debian best practice and make install mpd from source instead of apt |
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| 06:18.26 | EksTeSi | yeah sometimes you gotta do that |
| 06:18.28 | LightVision | valdyn: where and how can I get them? |
| 06:18.31 | EksTeSi | CVS it up man |
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| 06:18.45 | ke6isf | EksTeSi: You're not helping, stow it. |
| 06:18.51 | UnKnowN_ | Im getting errors when installing bit torrent |
| 06:18.53 | EksTeSi | sorry : ( |
| 06:18.54 | valdyn | LightVision: http://www.pvrdev.com/pub/PC/driver/index.htm |
| 06:18.56 | lofdev | LightVision: if it's playing well from HD but not from disk, I'm inclined to think the problem is elsewhere |
| 06:19.09 | ke6isf | compguymac: Let me look closer at the instructions, maybe I can talk you in. |
| 06:19.25 | LightVision | lofdev: its playing same from DVD and HD |
| 06:19.31 | LightVision | lofdev: but slow and shoppy |
| 06:19.36 | Yoe | compguymac: you have non-free and/or contrib added to your sources.list? |
| 06:19.38 | LightVision | choppy |
| 06:19.41 | compguymac | http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 06:19.44 | Yoe | compguymac: and did apt-get update after you did that? |
| 06:19.45 | compguymac | no idea |
| 06:19.48 | compguymac | first time on debian |
| 06:19.49 | compguymac | lol |
| 06:19.50 | stoned | how does one enable bitmap fonts in xfce/gnome? for exmaple i want to use the xserver fonts like lime,fixed-misc,clean,drift, etc in gnome. I did it long time ago i can't remember it was i think reconfiguring some font thing and telling it to enable bitmap fonts |
| 06:19.58 | LightVision | valdyn: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 = gives me option to change card driver, but wouldnt know what one to pick |
| 06:20.14 | compguymac | i did apt-get update, but after what? |
| 06:20.17 | UnKnowN_ | who can help me with dpkg? |
| 06:20.29 | ke6isf | compguymac: Did you put that source into your sources.list? |
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| 06:20.41 | compguymac | no |
| 06:20.43 | Yoe | compguymac: check that. /etc/apt/sources.list should contain the words 'non-free' and 'contrib' on a line that starts with 'deb' (as opposed to 'deb-src'). If not, add it. |
| 06:20.46 | compguymac | i didnt see the source to put in there |
| 06:20.51 | Dewi | is there something special one must do to get the tightvnc xserver to share clipboards with a tightvnc client? |
| 06:20.55 | valdyn | LightVision: there's none in that list suitable, would be called powervr or pvr i guess |
| 06:20.55 | compguymac | ok, 1 sec |
| 06:21.02 | Dewi | (under gnome) |
| 06:21.14 | Yoe | (and add it at the _end_ of the line, not the beginning) |
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| 06:21.25 | ke6isf | Yoe: You've done this before? |
| 06:21.32 | LightVision | valdyn: ok! if I chose that, can it break debian and not load anymore? |
| 06:21.33 | Yoe | ke6isf: nope, not at all |
| 06:21.43 | compguymac | no, |
| 06:21.48 | Yoe | heh |
| 06:21.49 | compguymac | it doesent say eather |
| 06:21.56 | LightVision | valdyn: im download the source from that websiter you gave me |
| 06:21.57 | eXistenZ | is there any edonkey client for debian stable? |
| 06:22.01 | compguymac | is this the list of places it checks for packages? |
| 06:22.01 | Hydroxide | 257747 is a different thing |
| 06:22.03 | Hydroxide | wrong window |
| 06:22.07 | Yoe | there's your problem. Now add the 'non-free' and 'contrib' at the end of the lines |
| 06:22.12 | Yoe | uh, line |
| 06:22.13 | ke6isf | eXistenZ: edonkey sucks. |
| 06:22.20 | compguymac | just space and type that in? |
| 06:22.24 | alasola | Hi, has everybody ever had every item in the 'debian' menu section in gnome duplicate itself? I've got two entries or everything and I'm not quite how to get rid of the extra ones. |
| 06:22.26 | Yoe | compguymac: then 'apt-get update', then it should work |
| 06:22.26 | ke6isf | compguymac: Yep. |
| 06:22.28 | compguymac | with the ticks |
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| 06:22.30 | compguymac | ok |
| 06:22.31 | compguymac | 1 sec |
| 06:22.45 | eXistenZ | ke6isf: I used to use aMule from the unstable, but it upgrades libc6 :/ |
| 06:22.47 | Yoe | compguymac: one question, though: your nick suggests you're running on PowerPC? |
| 06:23.04 | compguymac | ya, i use apple and linux |
| 06:23.11 | compguymac | talking on a ibook |
| 06:23.17 | compguymac | working on a pc with debian |
| 06:23.17 | ke6isf | hooboy. |
| 06:23.27 | Yoe | compguymac: then forget it. There are no nvidia-provided drivers for powerpc :-( |
| 06:23.27 | ke6isf | compguymac: OK, that makes sense. |
| 06:23.29 | Dewi | alasola: I've heard of that happening, but I haven't heard a solution. |
| 06:23.31 | LightVision | valdyn: i got the source from that websiter you gave me! how do I now use that? |
| 06:23.41 | alasola | I think update-menus is a little confused, running it with -v shows; 366 entries in /usr/share/menu/default but there is only one item in there.. |
| 06:23.42 | ke6isf | Yoe: Dude, read the last line, he's got Debian on an Intel. |
| 06:23.54 | Yoe | ah, sorry :-) |
| 06:23.55 | eXistenZ | ke6isf: when I try to copy a picture from adobe reader to openoffice using the snapshot tool, it says the format is not supported. How is it possible that openoffice doesn't support bitmap? |
| 06:23.55 | compguymac | should i add thoes words at the end of every link in that file? or just one? |
| 06:24.10 | Yoe | compguymac: if you're not sure, add them to all. Shouldn't hurt. |
| 06:24.19 | compguymac | k |
| 06:24.23 | ke6isf | eXistenZ: Dunno, you might ask Sun. |
| 06:24.38 | ke6isf | compguymac: Everything that starts with 'deb', rather than 'deb-src'. |
| 06:24.58 | compguymac | weird... ill add em but the first line in there has a # in front of it, should i take that out? |
| 06:25.00 | valdyn | LightVision: umm, i cant walk you thru that, i've googled enough now, you probably want to get a new gfx card on ebay, one that is supported, that driver seems old unmaintained, but its the best thing there is for your card. |
| 06:25.06 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, howd it go ? |
| 06:25.08 | alasola | Dewi: Thanks it's really weird, I've been going through all the menu file locations, I can't see any dublicate entries in the source menus anywhere but update-menus sees phantom ones.. |
| 06:25.11 | Yoe | compguymac: that means that line is not active. |
| 06:25.14 | amphi | compguymac: what is the line? |
| 06:25.15 | compguymac | its httP;;......debian.../debian sarge main |
| 06:25.21 | Yoe | compguymac: so if you remove that hash, you'll make it active |
| 06:25.24 | EksTeSi | hyper : went perfect man : ) |
| 06:25.26 | compguymac | im abv. it |
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| 06:25.31 | hyperstream | yay |
| 06:25.33 | compguymac | ya, wouldnt that be better? |
| 06:25.33 | hyperstream | :) |
| 06:25.33 | LightVision | valdyn: ok thanks |
| 06:25.36 | EksTeSi | now I an onto the reason I started all this |
| 06:25.38 | compguymac | search more placees? |
| 06:25.38 | ke6isf | compguymac: That line is being ignored by apt - it's commented out. |
| 06:25.42 | EksTeSi | installing asterisk : ) |
| 06:25.44 | compguymac | ya, i know |
| 06:25.49 | Yoe | compguymac: sure, doesn't hurt. |
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| 06:25.50 | compguymac | ok |
| 06:25.53 | hyperstream | :D which is ? |
| 06:25.54 | Yoe | compguymac: more mirrors is always better |
| 06:25.58 | hyperstream | what kernel are you running? |
| 06:26.06 | EksTeSi | hyper : thanks... you kept me on track.... 2.6.13 |
| 06:26.13 | compguymac | and dont add to deb-src right? |
| 06:26.19 | compguymac | just deb |
| 06:26.20 | EksTeSi | asterisk : open source PBX |
| 06:26.21 | LightVision | valdyn: appreciate your help |
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| 06:26.38 | ke6isf | compguymac: That's about it. |
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| 06:26.46 | EksTeSi | let me do some fancy VoIP stuff |
| 06:27.07 | hyperstream | :) |
| 06:27.11 | compguymac | do i need the ticks on the words too? |
| 06:27.17 | compguymac | as in 'this' |
| 06:27.18 | hyperstream | PBX? |
| 06:27.20 | ke6isf | compguymac: Nope. |
| 06:27.23 | hyperstream | oo |
| 06:27.23 | compguymac | k |
| 06:27.25 | hyperstream | cooo |
| 06:27.40 | hyperstream | perhaps you can help me :P let me pastebin my issue |
| 06:27.43 | ke6isf | compguymac: If the words are in 'ticks' it's usually an indicator that the enclosed terms are a command to be entered. |
| 06:27.54 | EksTeSi | hyper : private branch exchange... does phone switching.. so I can plug my phones into my pc and tunnel over the net or route calls etc |
| 06:28.02 | EksTeSi | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detail&category=hardware&product=TDM400P&tab=documentation |
| 06:28.07 | compguymac | ic ic |
| 06:28.09 | compguymac | ok, done |
| 06:28.11 | compguymac | :wq |
| 06:28.17 | EksTeSi | hehe don't say "ic" ! |
| 06:28.23 | ke6isf | compguymac: ...wrong window. =^_^= |
| 06:28.29 | compguymac | now apt-get update |
| 06:28.31 | bunnyboy | xmms often stops playing spontaneously...clicking on play rewinds the mp3 and it starts playing again..what could be the reason? |
| 06:28.43 | EksTeSi | weird |
| 06:28.43 | compguymac | and then apt-get upgrade |
| 06:28.45 | compguymac | ? |
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| 06:28.49 | ke6isf | compguymac: Yep. |
| 06:29.06 | compguymac | ya, its finding more and downloading stuff |
| 06:29.09 | compguymac | :):):) |
| 06:29.12 | ke6isf | compguymac: Also, might do you well to not punctuate your lines with 'enter' so frequently. Causes unnecessary scroll. |
| 06:29.20 | LightVision | valdyn: it seems it didnt work! i did "make install" as document says, but it gave errors |
| 06:29.29 | compguymac | sorry, im use to chating in aim, haha |
| 06:29.40 | ke6isf | LightVision: Were you root when you did make install? |
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| 06:30.33 | LightVision | ke6isf: yes |
| 06:30.51 | ke6isf | LightVision: What kind of errors are we talking about? |
| 06:31.31 | compguymac | ok, i did update and upgrade |
| 06:31.40 | compguymac | now gonna try again with nvidia |
| 06:31.42 | ke6isf | liable: I vaguely recall LightVision installing b-e. |
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| 06:32.12 | LightVision | ke6isf: a lot! too many to show |
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| 06:32.17 | hyperstream | configure and make errors: http://pastebin.com/360386 |
| 06:32.19 | LightVision | b-e ? |
| 06:32.34 | ke6isf | !b-e |
| 06:32.35 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 06:32.58 | EksTeSi | is build-essential a new package in sarge ? |
| 06:33.11 | EksTeSi | er meta-package ? |
| 06:33.28 | ke6isf | hyperstream: No libtool. |
| 06:33.29 | lemur | also, does it just cover C, or other languages too? |
| 06:33.38 | hyperstream | yes libtool is installed |
| 06:33.46 | ke6isf | hyperstream: hmm... |
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| 06:34.08 | hyperstream | hyper:/usr/src/ccd2iso# libtool --version |
| 06:34.10 | hyperstream | ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.5.6 (1.1220.2.95 2004/04/11 05:50:42) Debian: 224 $ |
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| 06:34.30 | LightVision | ke6isf: http://pastebin.com/360388 |
| 06:34.41 | LightVision | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/360388 |
| 06:34.49 | masoft | what's the name of KDE package in Debian SID ? it seems not kde-base ! |
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| 06:35.06 | pirre | LightVision: grep: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h: No such file or directory |
| 06:35.14 | pirre | maybe a hint there? |
| 06:35.20 | hyperstream | EksTeSi, any idea's ? |
| 06:35.24 | LightVision | pirre: i have no idea |
| 06:35.33 | liable | err, no point running make-install if make errors.. |
| 06:35.44 | LightVision | liable: I learned that :) |
| 06:35.56 | LightVision | it drivers for my video card |
| 06:35.59 | pirre | LightVision: it says the file don't exist, and it obviously needs the file. |
| 06:36.01 | LightVision | says for linux |
| 06:36.06 | pirre | s/don't/doesn't/ |
| 06:36.22 | LightVision | and that paste is only 25% of what I got |
| 06:36.29 | LightVision | it goes on and on |
| 06:36.36 | ke6isf | LightVision: So there's more. =O.o= |
| 06:36.41 | liable | !find libtool |
| 06:36.42 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'libtool' (6): libtool ;; libtool-doc ;; libtool1.4 ;; libtool1.4-doc ;; libtoolbar-java ;; libtoolbutton-java. |
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| 06:36.50 | LightVision | ke6isf: yeah! lots more |
| 06:36.57 | LightVision | ke6isf: couldnt copy it all |
| 06:36.58 | ke6isf | liable: LightVision's error, you think that's a b-e problem? |
| 06:37.07 | LightVision | whats b-e? |
| 06:37.08 | liable | ke6isf: no |
| 06:37.21 | ke6isf | LightVision: build-essentials. It's the stuff you need to compile even the most basic source. |
| 06:37.38 | LightVision | ke6isf: here is where I got my source from: http://www.pvrdev.com/pub/PC/driver/index.htm |
| 06:38.01 | LightVision | ke6isf: when I installed Sarge, I dont think I installed all that stuff |
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| 06:38.05 | liable | LightVision: have you read the readme and installed evrything it says you need/ |
| 06:38.08 | hyperstream | ke6isf, any idea's |
| 06:38.11 | cheal | masoft: kde, or ask #debian-kde |
| 06:38.15 | hyperstream | perhaps i need aln -s setup ? |
| 06:38.19 | LightVision | liable: doesnt say anything needning anything |
| 06:38.28 | hyperstream | or to set the varible @LIBTOOL@ |
| 06:38.31 | LightVision | ke6isf: how can I get all the build-essentials? |
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| 06:38.44 | ke6isf | !b-e |
| 06:38.44 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 06:38.54 | ke6isf | LightVision: What dpkg said. |
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| 06:39.20 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok downloading now :) |
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| 06:39.33 | ke6isf | LightVision: What kind of chip is actually on the video card? |
| 06:40.15 | compguymac | ok, i got the nvidia driver installed !! yaa :) haha |
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| 06:40.23 | ke6isf | compguymac: And there was much rejoicing! |
| 06:40.27 | LightVision | ke6isf: i installed build-essentials, but same errors |
| 06:40.29 | compguymac | but now startx still wont work, do i need to restart? |
| 06:40.36 | LightVision | ke6isf: not sure of the chip :( |
| 06:40.37 | hyperstream | could someone please take a look @ http://pastebin.com/360386 im running debian 2.6.12.5 and having issues configuring and make 'ing ccd2iso |
| 06:40.45 | compguymac | it says Fatal server error: no screens found |
| 06:40.55 | LightVision | ke6isf: can Debian look at chip on card? |
| 06:40.58 | EdLin | !drxx compguymac |
| 06:40.59 | dpkg | compguymac: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:41.07 | ke6isf | LightVision: That's what lspci si for. |
| 06:41.25 | ke6isf | LightVision: You'll probably have to look at the card itself. Either get a flashlight and a mirror or power it off and look. |
| 06:41.30 | EdLin | compguymac: and when you do that, make sure to de-activate GLCore and DRI |
| 06:41.31 | hyperstream | compguymac, you proberly upgrade to xorg |
| 06:41.38 | compguymac | ooo, i have to edit that file |
| 06:41.39 | compguymac | lol |
| 06:41.39 | hyperstream | that fixed alot of things for me |
| 06:41.41 | LightVision | ke6isf: it says; 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: STMicroelectronics STG4000 [3D Prophet Kyro Series] (rev 01) |
| 06:41.44 | compguymac | forgot about that |
| 06:41.54 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok |
| 06:41.58 | LightVision | ty |
| 06:42.27 | ke6isf | LightVision: You might be stuck playing with other generic video drivers, but we'll think of somehting better than vesa I hope. |
| 06:42.44 | EdLin | hyperstream: xorg is simply more forgiving of configuration file errors, unless you have bleeding-edge hardware, Debian's XFree86 is still OK |
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| 06:43.15 | lofdev | anyone know anything about merillat sources (they look down)??? |
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| 06:43.33 | LightVision | ke6isf: i think it uses Kyro II chipset |
| 06:43.43 | EdLin | grep: marillat: No such file or directory |
| 06:43.45 | ke6isf | LightVision: I didn't see anythign pointing to that on the list. |
| 06:43.46 | EdLin | oops |
| 06:43.54 | EdLin | grep: marilat: No such file or directory |
| 06:43.57 | LightVision | ke6isf: im looking at cd |
| 06:44.02 | EdLin | oops^2 |
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| 06:44.42 | mombof | any-o-yoots got jre for powerpc working ? if so could you point me in tha right direction |
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| 06:46.33 | xerophyte | for example i know 198.8.3.16/30 will have around 4 host .. if i want only 3 hosts wht will be the CIDR notation 198.8.3.16/x what will be x .. just wondering |
| 06:47.19 | ke6isf | !tell mombof -about java |
| 06:47.24 | compguymac | same error |
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| 06:47.49 | ke6isf | compguymac: We're just not having much luck tonight, are we? =O.o= |
| 06:47.50 | compguymac | i did all the changes in xf86config-4 |
| 06:47.50 | EdLin | mombof: maybe you want the IBM jre or jdk |
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| 06:48.20 | mombof | thx folks |
| 06:48.25 | compguymac | sayd failed to load module "nvidia" module does not exist,0 no driver available |
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| 06:48.31 | lofdev | can anyone tell me where apt-get update stores package files |
| 06:48.41 | compguymac | i added load "glx" under modules |
| 06:48.54 | LightVision | ke6isf: if I play around trying different drivers, can Debian stop loading at reboot? |
| 06:48.57 | pirre | lofdev: man apt-get ? |
| 06:49.11 | compguymac | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:49.17 | compguymac | vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:49.39 | compguymac | i gotta run, ill deal with it later |
| 06:49.58 | hyperstream | shouldnt LIBTOOL@ be 'libtool' and not in captials and with no @ at the end? ... [Error: LIBTOOL@ command not found] |
| 06:50.00 | lofdev | pirre: sure. what am I looking for? |
| 06:50.29 | pirre | lofdev: look at the bottom under the "FILES" heading |
| 06:51.00 | lofdev | pirre: got it in another window. doesn't help. |
| 06:51.03 | LightVision | if Debian doesnt load anymore because of wrong video card driver, what can I do to get it back up and running? |
| 06:51.08 | valdyn | LightVision: x drivers can lock up or crash your system. However you can avoid problems after reboot, see '/msg dpkg nodm' |
| 06:51.22 | LightVision | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.52 | ke6isf | LightVision: It's possible that X won't load, but Debian won't worry about a misconfigured X file. If that happens, just keep trying or return to what worked. |
| 06:51.54 | grozniy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.56 | pirre | lofdev: what's the 5th item in the FILES section? |
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| 06:52.04 | hyperstream | anyone? |
| 06:52.04 | LightVision | valdyn: that talks about working with it runing1 What can I do if it wont even load KDE? |
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| 06:52.15 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok |
| 06:52.28 | ericP | i recently restarted X on a sid box after a couple months of the same X. i had to add a couple xmodmaps to get back a few useful keys. |
| 06:52.32 | ke6isf | LightVision: You'll just need to log in as root and do the dpkg-reconfigure thing. |
| 06:52.37 | valdyn | LightVision: restore your old config ( vesa.. ) |
| 06:52.40 | lofdev | pirre: lists. right. half is answered... |
| 06:52.41 | LightVision | ke6isf: ah ok thanks |
| 06:52.54 | ericP | before i file a bug, is anyone here using a japanese keyboard and can confirm or deny the prob? |
| 06:53.04 | LightVision | valdyn: ok got it |
| 06:53.06 | ericP | (keys were ']' and '\' |
| 06:53.31 | ericP | ) |
| 06:53.33 | pirre | lofdev: okay, the answer is /var/cache/apt/archives/, that's where package files are stored. |
| 06:54.05 | lofdev | pirre: not looking for the packages. I want the Package source that is retrieved when apt-get updates |
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| 06:54.11 | lofdev | and those are there |
| 06:54.12 | Sashi | hey |
| 06:54.13 | ke6isf | LightVision: A little hint, change ONLY the video card type, and stick with generic card drivers. |
| 06:54.20 | Sashi | i just installed debian |
| 06:54.26 | ke6isf | Sashi: Welcome. |
| 06:54.27 | Sashi | but i cant get the resoultion higher |
| 06:54.35 | LightVision | ke6isf: do I do that with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" ? |
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| 06:54.37 | ke6isf | !drxx sashi |
| 06:54.37 | valdyn | !drxx Sashi |
| 06:54.38 | dpkg | sashi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:54.38 | Sashi | ive tried changing in XF86 |
| 06:54.39 | dpkg | Sashi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:54.41 | ke6isf | LightVision: Yes. |
| 06:54.47 | LightVision | ke6isf: ok thanks |
| 06:54.48 | pirre | lofdev: /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? |
| 06:54.49 | LightVision | :) |
| 06:54.50 | lofdev | pirre: but apt-get won't grab sources from the marillat archives for some reason... |
| 06:54.55 | ericP | does anyone know what file would have all the modmaps for "XkbModel" "jp106", "XkbLayout" "jp"? |
| 06:54.59 | lofdev | so I'm trying to do it manually |
| 06:55.15 | ke6isf | lofdev: Did you do apt-get update after adding marillat? |
| 06:55.18 | ericP | i don't see them in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb |
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| 06:55.59 | pirre | lofdev: does apt-get produce an error when you "update" ? |
| 06:56.04 | lofdev | pirre: ke6isf: Yup. But I AM AN IDIOT!!!!!!!! |
| 06:56.24 | Sashi | erm |
| 06:56.24 | Sashi | Amount of video memory in Kbytes: |
| 06:56.28 | lofdev | my f-ing lord. I can't f-ing spell or read. |
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| 06:56.30 | Sashi | how much is 128mb |
| 06:56.32 | ke6isf | Sashi: leave it blank. |
| 06:56.35 | Sashi | k |
| 06:56.45 | ke6isf | Sashi: If it's blank, it should autodetect. |
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| 06:57.51 | williamh | anyone know when Zope2.7.7 will be in unstable? |
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| 06:58.40 | Sashi | erm |
| 06:58.42 | alasola | urrg so far in my mission to remove extra entries I've found it's something to do with ~/.local/share/applications/menu-xdg because when I removed it I gained a THIRD copy of everything.. :( |
| 06:58.42 | Sashi | i did xf86config |
| 06:58.44 | Sashi | still my resoultion |
| 06:58.44 | ke6isf | Sashi: So... how'd it go? |
| 06:59.04 | Sashi | is still 640x480 |
| 06:59.34 | Sashi | my monitor can go to 1280 |
| 06:59.42 | lofdev | pirre: i'm sleep deprived. I've been fighting debian to get mpd to let me play aac files for 6 hours. damn patent restriction... I can hear them with VLC but mpd won't see them. |
| 06:59.49 | Sashi | dunno whats wrong |
| 07:00.04 | LightVision | lofdev: wow long time |
| 07:00.08 | ke6isf | Sashi: go to 'medium' at minimum, and select the resolution. |
| 07:00.14 | Sashi | ? |
| 07:00.20 | Sashi | medium? |
| 07:00.28 | pirre | lofdev: ouch |
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| 07:00.53 | Sashi | what medium |
| 07:01.01 | ke6isf | While you're doing the dpkg-reconfigure thing, when it asks you for difficulty, say 'medium'. Select your desired resolution and screen frequency, then select the resolution you wish to operate at in the next screen. |
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| 07:01.08 | Sashi | k |
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| 07:01.16 | Sashi | whats the command |
| 07:01.21 | Sashi | cuz i did x86config |
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| 07:01.28 | ke6isf | Sashi: hooboy. |
| 07:01.29 | Sashi | not the dpkg-reconfigure whatever |
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| 07:01.35 | lofdev | pirre: is there a way to force apt to use a (say) non-US location for package dl? |
| 07:01.36 | ke6isf | !drxx sashi |
| 07:01.37 | dpkg | sashi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:01.42 | Sashi | rt |
| 07:01.43 | Sashi | ty |
| 07:01.44 | ke6isf | Sashi: Follow Those Directions. |
| 07:01.56 | ke6isf | !tell sashi -about xmd5 |
| 07:02.18 | ke6isf | Sashi: Since dpkg didn't reconfigure it, you'll have to re-md5 the file. Follow the other directions that dpkg just gave you in the privmsg. |
| 07:02.53 | pirre | lofdev: not that I know of, you might have to download it manually |
| 07:03.16 | lofdev | pirre: I need beer. |
| 07:03.23 | ke6isf | !beer lofdev |
| 07:04.27 | LightVision | !hug ke6isf |
| 07:04.29 | LightVision | :P |
| 07:04.44 | LightVision | ke6isf: :) |
| 07:04.56 | LightVision | ke6isf: thats for all your patience and help today :) |
| 07:05.08 | ke6isf | LightVision: Hey, glad to help out. |
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| 07:05.13 | LightVision | ke6isf: see you tomorrow, going now :) |
| 07:05.16 | LightVision | ke6isf: ty |
| 07:05.20 | ke6isf | LightVision: Take it easy. |
| 07:05.23 | lofdev | pirre: I suppose I could # all of my sources.list file, eh? |
| 07:05.25 | LightVision | lofdev: and ty to you too |
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| 07:05.31 | LightVision | ke6isf: I will, bye |
| 07:05.38 | lofdev | LightVision: sure anytime |
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| 07:06.13 | sashi | omg still doesnt work!!! |
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| 07:06.27 | pirre | lofdev: theoretically, yes, but a bit unwise |
| 07:07.10 | lofdev | pirre: and there doesn't even exist the package I want. |
| 07:07.31 | pirre | lofdev: which package is that? |
| 07:07.33 | hyperstream | how can i make linux reconize my mounted iso as a cdrom drive, like /mnt/cdrom2 is where its mounted |
| 07:07.36 | |mario| | ubuntu can run on Vmware ? |
| 07:07.49 | ke6isf | |mario|: #ubuntu is over there --> |
| 07:07.55 | eXistenZ | how can I stop x? |
| 07:08.00 | valdyn | hyperstream: mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /mnt/cdrom2 |
| 07:08.13 | lofdev | i need to get mpd with aac format support. |
| 07:08.13 | valdyn | hyperstream: oh sorry |
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| 07:08.18 | |mario| | ? |
| 07:08.23 | valdyn | hyperstream: read 'man losetup' |
| 07:08.28 | ke6isf | |mario|: We don't support ubuntu in here. |
| 07:08.35 | |mario| | o |
| 07:08.37 | |mario| | sorry |
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| 07:08.51 | |mario| | what you support? |
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| 07:08.56 | AgresZina | hmmmm |
| 07:09.01 | ke6isf | |mario|: Debian, naturally. |
| 07:09.02 | alasola | sweet found the root cause of my dublicated menu items http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317567 |
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| 07:09.06 | AgresZina | my linux box still aint getting inet |
| 07:09.10 | valdyn | hyperstream: however losetup is part of what mount -o loop does, so after mounting an iso its already accessible on /dev/loop0 |
| 07:09.19 | |mario| | thanks |
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| 07:09.51 | lofdev | pirre: aac support depends on faad2 & faac, but the debian package ignores this for license reasons and defaults to no aac, and the make install for the source doesn't recognize the debian faa? installs as existing... |
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| 07:10.49 | pirre | lofdev: ah |
| 07:11.04 | valdyn | lofdev: umm, faad is in marillat and supports aac |
| 07:11.09 | |mario| | i am new,so i ask that question just now |
| 07:11.16 | lofdev | pirre: right. |
| 07:11.21 | ke6isf | |mario|: Better now than later. =^^= |
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| 07:11.27 | sashi | ack |
| 07:11.29 | sashi | i dunno what i did wrong |
| 07:11.30 | lofdev | valdyn: I did the faad at marillat. we'll see... |
| 07:11.33 | |mario| | en |
| 07:11.34 | sashi | still resoultion |
| 07:11.40 | ke6isf | sashi: No change? |
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| 07:12.03 | sashi | nope |
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| 07:12.14 | ke6isf | sashi: Did you do dpkg-reconfigure or xmd5 yet? |
| 07:12.25 | lofdev | this blows! |
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| 07:12.28 | sashi | yea |
| 07:12.30 | sashi | i did |
| 07:12.44 | ke6isf | sashi: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 07:12.46 | hyperstream | is it possible to mount a iso to a cdrom device? |
| 07:12.48 | sashi | stable |
| 07:12.54 | ke6isf | sashi: Just checking. |
| 07:13.24 | valdyn | lofdev: mpd explicitely only supports (Ogg-Vorbis, FLAC, MP3, Wave, and AIFF |
| 07:13.29 | hyperstream | mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/hyperstream/DataStorage/Diablo2/Diablo2INSTALLDISC.iso /mnt/cdrom2 |
| 07:13.36 | hyperstream | thats the line im using |
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| 07:13.53 | ke6isf | sashi: What are you running for an IRC client? |
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| 07:13.58 | sashi | xchat |
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| 07:14.08 | deadcat | can someone try : echo ^Na^O : and see if a non-ascii char shows up or not please. |
| 07:14.09 | ke6isf | sashi: I notice you keep dropping out. |
| 07:14.11 | valdyn | hyperstream: so you read the losetup manpage already? |
| 07:14.12 | lofdev | valdyn: check again. the app has support for aac. it's mentioned on the site, and in the config file. It's there. it's just a licensing headache |
| 07:14.13 | sashi | yea |
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| 07:14.16 | sashi | cuz i restart x |
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| 07:14.48 | ke6isf | sashi: OK. Stay in the chat session, I'm gonna walk you through this. |
| 07:14.51 | |mario| | debian can run on Vmware? |
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| 07:14.58 | sashi | k |
| 07:15.01 | ke6isf | sashi: Do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 07:15.13 | sashi | ok |
| 07:15.14 | ke6isf | |mario|: I suspect so, but ask on #vmware for confirmation. |
| 07:15.27 | sashi | my driver is intel |
| 07:15.31 | |mario| | o |
| 07:15.32 | ke6isf | sashi: The first screen asks the driver, right? |
| 07:15.37 | sashi | yea |
| 07:15.40 | sashi | i dunno my driver |
| 07:15.47 | sashi | i usually just pick the default |
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| 07:15.57 | ke6isf | sashi: You don't know what kind of video card is in your system? |
| 07:15.58 | sashi | the i810 |
| 07:16.06 | sashi | its an itel |
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| 07:16.15 | sashi | 8258G something |
| 07:16.21 | sashi | intergreated |
| 07:16.31 | sashi | 128mb |
| 07:16.38 | ke6isf | sashi: Do 'lspci' in another terminal. |
| 07:16.44 | ke6isf | sashi: Don't proceed until I tell you,. |
| 07:17.03 | lofdev | sashi: what is your system? |
| 07:17.05 | sashi | 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) |
| 07:17.11 | nimak | i wonder if there's any way to tell debian "stop starting services immediately after i install them" |
| 07:17.16 | lofdev | sashi: dell laptop maybe |
| 07:17.19 | teemu_k | ... few weeks after saying that... "now you can proceed" |
| 07:17.20 | teemu_k | :P |
| 07:17.22 | sashi | no dell dimension |
| 07:17.29 | ke6isf | teemu_k: bah! |
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| 07:17.40 | lofdev | sashi: downgrade your bios to A08 or less |
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| 07:17.51 | sashi | i dont wanna downgrade |
| 07:17.56 | sashi | i didnt even upgrade |
| 07:18.08 | ke6isf | lofdev: Let's try this first. |
| 07:18.09 | sashi | i screwed the hell outta my other comp |
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| 07:18.25 | UnKnowN__ | night all |
| 07:18.25 | ke6isf | sashi: If i810 is working, we'll stick with it. Proceed. |
| 07:18.27 | sashi | so im not touching anyhintg of bios |
| 07:18.28 | lofdev | sashi: I'm running on i810 right now, and it is a HUGE problem for X |
| 07:18.41 | ke6isf | lofdev: What kind of problems? |
| 07:18.46 | sashi | i dont wanna touch anything with bios atm |
| 07:18.56 | ke6isf | sashi: We aren't even going to deal with bios. |
| 07:19.01 | lofdev | ke6isf: as far as I can tell, there is some incorrect info on intel |
| 07:19.04 | lofdev | 's |
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| 07:19.28 | sashi | so what should i pick lofdev |
| 07:19.41 | lofdev | ke6isf: sorry. site. The chip dell uses gets tweaked in later bios versions and WILL NOT start X. |
| 07:19.57 | ke6isf | lofdev: He's able to start X though, just not at desired resolution. |
| 07:20.04 | sashi | thats true lofdev |
| 07:20.11 | sashi | i can only select 16 bits |
| 07:20.12 | lofdev | ke6isf: it also does strange things if you install debian without debian-installer/framebuffer=false |
| 07:20.13 | sashi | not 24 |
| 07:20.22 | ke6isf | sashi: OK, that's clearer then. |
| 07:20.38 | sashi | if i do 24 bits i cant start x |
| 07:20.43 | sashi | and have to rollback to 16 |
| 07:20.46 | eXistenZ | what is usually the device name of the mouse |
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| 07:20.47 | lofdev | but it's an all or nothing. if x running, this isn't the problem |
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| 07:21.13 | ke6isf | lofdev: Which driver did you pick for your box? |
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| 07:22.35 | lofdev | ke6isf: i810 |
| 07:22.51 | AgresZina | anyone here: i got a small inet crises on my linux box |
| 07:22.53 | lofdev | if you want i'll post my xorg.conf to a www site |
| 07:22.54 | AgresZina | it got no juice |
| 07:22.56 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 07:22.56 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 07:22.57 | sashi | ok i guess ill pick i810 |
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| 07:23.23 | ke6isf | sashi: OK, pick it and proceed to to the next screen. |
| 07:23.38 | sashi | its video identifier i can just put the default |
| 07:23.56 | valdyn | lofdev: ok, looks like: "apt-get install libfaad2-dev && apt-get build-dep mpd && apt-get -b source mpd" will do it. |
| 07:24.29 | AgresZina | guysss |
| 07:24.30 | AgresZina | plzzz |
| 07:24.34 | AgresZina | i need inet |
| 07:24.35 | sashi | ok im on the screen where the resoultions are |
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| 07:24.55 | lofdev | valdyn: that quick? (the build-dep mpd makes this work)? |
| 07:25.21 | rAz_ | is there any dc client that work fine on debian unstable ? |
| 07:25.25 | rAz_ | ( hello ) |
| 07:25.38 | valdyn | lofdev: yea, but just noticed that at least on debian/amd64 this wont compile, worth a try for you still. |
| 07:26.41 | lofdev | valdyn: what dioes this do, in 10 words or less??? |
| 07:27.18 | valdyn | lofdev: installs libfaad2-dev, installs what is needed to build mpd, gets the debian source and build debian packages. |
| 07:27.28 | sashi | err okie... |
| 07:27.31 | sashi | im kinda done |
| 07:27.32 | sashi | lol |
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| 07:28.01 | lofdev | i'm getting an unmet dependencies with libfaad2-0 error |
| 07:28.03 | Miesco_ | Whats a program I can use to burn a ISO? |
| 07:28.11 | valdyn | lofdev: and the build process will use libfaad2 if its around |
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| 07:28.54 | lofdev | sashi: do you want me to post my xorg.conf file for you |
| 07:29.12 | ke6isf | lofdev: I don't think he's running xorg. |
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| 07:29.29 | sashi | yea |
| 07:29.31 | sashi | sure |
| 07:29.40 | sashi | put it on paste bin or soemthing |
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| 07:29.46 | lofdev | sashi: you running xorg or xfree? |
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| 07:29.52 | sashi | erm |
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| 07:29.59 | sashi | i think xfree dunno |
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| 07:30.03 | sashi | how do i know? |
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| 07:30.09 | sashi | i do startx if that helps |
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| 07:30.11 | sashi | :P |
| 07:30.15 | lofdev | does the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist? |
| 07:30.17 | ke6isf | sashi: If you're on sarge, you're probably running xfree |
| 07:30.29 | sashi | im on stable |
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| 07:31.26 | AgresZina | hmm |
| 07:31.32 | AgresZina | i can ping other boxes on my network |
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| 07:31.36 | AgresZina | i can ping a site |
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| 07:31.39 | AgresZina | but i dont have inet |
| 07:31.40 | AgresZina | !!! |
| 07:31.40 | dpkg | No sóc el teu puto indicador de csh |
| 07:31.45 | lofdev | sashi: check to see if you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf or now (though I assume no) |
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| 07:32.37 | sashi | nope ;( |
| 07:32.40 | sashi | only got XF86Config-4 |
| 07:32.49 | AgresZina | i can ping a site |
| 07:32.50 | AgresZina | but i dont have inet |
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| 07:33.08 | green_earz | AgresZina: ping www.google.com to see if it will resolve to a ip address |
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| 07:33.17 | lofdev | sashi: do you plan on using gnome or kde or other? |
| 07:33.43 | sashi | kde |
| 07:33.48 | sashi | i dont like gnome |
| 07:33.54 | Miesco_ | What program can I use to write images to a CD? |
| 07:33.54 | green_earz | Miesco_: k3b |
| 07:33.55 | sashi | im running gnome now atm |
| 07:33.59 | Miesco_ | Okay |
| 07:34.05 | AgresZina | green_earz - ping: Unknown host www.google.com |
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| 07:34.37 | sashi | hmm |
| 07:34.45 | sashi | how do i go so that i start x |
| 07:34.48 | sashi | err i start kde |
| 07:34.50 | sashi | not gnome |
| 07:34.58 | AgresZina | startx |
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| 07:35.06 | green_earz | AgresZina: you need you dns nameserver info |
| 07:35.08 | lofdev | sashi: xorg is a requirement of gnome 2.10 +, you want to uninstall XF86 and reinstall xorg |
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| 07:35.29 | sashi | erm i have kde stuff though |
| 07:35.30 | lofdev | sashi if kde then leave things alone |
| 07:35.34 | AgresZina | green_earz - Dont think i have that, never needed it before |
| 07:36.01 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.05 | sashi | well i want to start kde |
| 07:36.06 | sashi | not gnome |
| 07:36.12 | lofdev | sashi: gimme a sec and I'll post my xorg.conf file. it sould be similar mostly |
| 07:36.13 | sashi | i do startx i get into gnome |
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| 07:36.23 | sashi | i dont have a xorg.conf though |
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| 07:36.35 | AgresZina | outputs 2 lines green_earz |
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| 07:36.46 | AgresZina | search lan |
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| 07:36.54 | AgresZina | nameserver 10.0.0.138 |
| 07:37.08 | manu | where can i get 2.6.8.1 debian kernel source |
| 07:37.10 | manu | ? |
| 07:37.21 | pirre | manu: kernel.org ? |
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| 07:37.42 | green_earz | AgresZina: the 10.0.0.138 is a private lan address. |
| 07:37.42 | mkl1525 | hi, how can I mount an aes linux encrypted file from command line? |
| 07:37.48 | EdLin | manu: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6 |
| 07:37.54 | AgresZina | green_earz - which means? |
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| 07:38.19 | green_earz | AgresZina: is the box set up for a static ip |
| 07:38.22 | EdLin | pirre: vanilla 2.6 kernels, according to Linus, are not meant for end users. |
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| 07:38.40 | sashi | so? |
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| 07:39.15 | pirre | EdLin: did not know that. |
| 07:39.20 | AgresZina | yes green_earz - did that some time ago but dont know where |
| 07:39.39 | lofdev | valdyn: YOU F-ING ROCK!!!!!! |
| 07:39.43 | AgresZina | green_earz - i setted the inside IP myself once because of internal IP errors |
| 07:39.55 | valdyn | lofdev: compiled for you? |
| 07:40.15 | sashi | lofdev, im sure i have kde |
| 07:40.34 | EdLin | pirre: it is up to the vendors to provide stable patched kernels to their users, in the meantime 2.6 has experimental stuff going on in the main branch rather than the release/development seperate trees in the past. |
| 07:40.40 | green_earz | AgresZina: so basicly it looks like you do not have a correct dns ip address in resolv.conf |
| 07:40.43 | quittt | I cant compile NVIDIA on linux |
| 07:40.45 | lofdev | valdyn: just managed to get it to work, though the .deb pacakge would not compile. I had to ./configure and make install from source, but you got the dependencies installed for me. |
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| 07:41.01 | AgresZina | green_earz - what do i do? |
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| 07:41.05 | sashi | hmm |
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| 07:41.06 | sashi | not sure |
| 07:41.15 | sashi | but when i select 24bit i cant start x |
| 07:41.31 | valdyn | lofdev: ah, neat. |
| 07:41.35 | ke6isf | dangit |
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| 07:41.42 | green_earz | AgresZina: are you behind a router ? 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.0.1 |
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| 07:41.55 | AgresZina | green_earz - yes i am behind one |
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| 07:42.11 | AgresZina | green_earz - whats with the IP's |
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| 07:42.30 | lofdev | valdyn: i have like 200 albums I ripped to aac with iTunes. Don't want to re-rip them, but I love mpd and how it works. |
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| 07:42.35 | green_earz | AgresZina: that the ip of the router |
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| 07:42.48 | quittt | why I cant compile it? |
| 07:42.52 | tita_gitu | ape lo |
| 07:42.53 | sashi | omg how come my resoultion wont change??? |
| 07:42.59 | AgresZina | i use 10.0.0.2 to access my router green_earz |
| 07:43.17 | lofdev | sashi. I'm posting my conf file. gimme a sec. |
| 07:43.30 | EdLin | !sing sunday |
| 07:43.31 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 07:43.31 | sashi | erm |
| 07:43.34 | sashi | i dont have xorg though |
| 07:43.37 | ke6isf | sashi: Use vesa. |
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| 07:43.43 | sashi | vesa? |
| 07:43.47 | sashi | huh? |
| 07:43.50 | ke6isf | sashi: It should work. |
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| 07:43.55 | sashi | what vesa |
| 07:44.03 | sashi | you mean in the reconfiguire ting? |
| 07:44.06 | ke6isf | sashi: Do it again and use the 'vesa' driver instead of the 'i810'. Then try selecting 24 bit. |
| 07:44.10 | lofdev | sashi: go to http://yale.servegame.com/index.php/Xorgconf |
| 07:44.11 | sashi | k |
| 07:44.16 | tita_gitu | oiii gw ikutannnn |
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| 07:44.43 | lofdev | sashi: use this as a reference, don't replace your file with it. |
| 07:44.45 | sashi | hmm lofdev 's xorg config |
| 07:44.47 | AgresZina | green_earz - i typed the inside IP i wanted in a file once, any idea what file? |
| 07:44.49 | sashi | has i810 |
| 07:44.51 | sashi | :( |
| 07:44.54 | sashi | and 24bit |
| 07:44.59 | AgresZina | green_earz - maybe i have to delete the line i typed |
| 07:45.03 | Miesco_ | Does dpkg put the files you install in the menu? |
| 07:45.07 | green_earz | AgresZina: give me a min |
| 07:45.12 | ke6isf | sashi: He's probably doing something different. |
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| 07:45.28 | sashi | ok i did vesa |
| 07:45.29 | quittt | why the fuck I cant isntall it |
| 07:45.30 | sashi | lemme logout |
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| 07:45.44 | quittt | why the fuck I cant install NVIDIA driver? |
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| 07:45.55 | ke6isf | !tell quittt -about nvidia |
| 07:46.08 | Miesco_ | quittt does it say you need kernel-source |
| 07:46.14 | quittt | Miesco_: yes |
| 07:46.21 | quittt | an gcc error then that |
| 07:46.21 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 07:46.21 | dpkg | from memory, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 07:47.15 | sashi | argh still doesnt work! |
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| 07:47.19 | EdLin | quittt: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 07:47.19 | quittt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.22 | quittt | j |
| 07:47.25 | ke6isf | sashi: fuck. |
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| 07:47.50 | green_earz | AgresZina: you need to run the dhcp client on the box. sorry but i forget what the commad is. i am on a static ip here so i do not use a client |
| 07:47.57 | quittt | there is no nvidia kernel for 2.6.11 |
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| 07:48.14 | WiFiTux_ | anyone knows the package name for the gnome wireless applet? |
| 07:48.25 | sashi | this is really pissing me off lol |
| 07:48.30 | lofdev | sashi: what errors are you getting? |
| 07:48.37 | AgresZina | dhcp client |
| 07:48.42 | sashi | umm one sec wheres te logs? |
| 07:48.42 | AgresZina | never heard of it :( |
| 07:48.43 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:48.53 | green_earz | yes run that |
| 07:49.27 | sashi | wheres the logs again? |
| 07:49.29 | AgresZina | bash: dhcp-client: command not found |
| 07:49.30 | ke6isf | quittt: do the nvidia one-liner. |
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| 07:50.40 | AgresZina | green_earz - bash: dhcp-client: command not found |
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| 07:50.56 | sashi | ?? |
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| 07:51.16 | Sara|Laptop | Hi, my sound isn't working on my laptop - cat /proc/asound/cards says: 0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 SiS SI7012 with STAC9750,51 at 0x1c00, irq 177 |
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| 07:51.37 | green_earz | AgresZina: so but i have forgot the commad for the dhcp-client |
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| 07:51.41 | ke6isf | !laptop |
| 07:51.41 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 07:52.06 | sashi | wheres the logs for X crashes? |
| 07:52.07 | AgresZina | anyone here who knows the command fot the -dhcp-client? |
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| 07:52.50 | green_earz | AgresZina: have a look in ls /etc/init.d/ |
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| 07:53.06 | green_earz | ls /etc/init.d/ |
| 07:53.20 | AgresZina | green_earz - where do i look for |
| 07:53.22 | Sara|Laptop | can someone help get my sound working? |
| 07:53.26 | green_earz | AgresZina: can you see a dhcp |
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| 07:53.45 | AgresZina | green_earz - nope |
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| 07:54.23 | green_earz | sorry i can not be any more use. but you can see now that its a dns problem |
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| 07:54.36 | sashi | green_earz, can ya help |
| 07:54.38 | AgresZina | i do see some dns things green_earz |
| 07:54.40 | sashi | where are the logs |
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| 07:56.17 | giggsey | I just installed debain, but I think I chose the wrong type of video driver during installation, now my login screen won't load |
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| 07:56.26 | giggsey | debian* |
| 07:56.40 | ke6isf | !drxx giggsey |
| 07:56.40 | dpkg | giggsey: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:57.04 | sashi | anyone help me? |
| 07:57.08 | giggsey | swish |
| 07:57.09 | sashi | ack w/e |
| 07:57.18 | sashi | screw IT |
| 07:57.20 | sashi | :P |
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| 07:57.44 | green_earz | AgresZina: did you run the command dhcp-client as su ? |
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| 07:58.05 | giggsey | right, I'm going to try that, cheers |
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| 07:58.42 | lofdev | valdyn: thanks so much for the help. I'm beside myself with glee that I can hear my .m4a files. |
| 07:58.48 | sashi | lofdev, you there? |
| 07:58.54 | lofdev | sashi: yup. |
| 07:58.56 | sashi | heres the output |
| 07:58.57 | AgresZina | yes gre |
| 07:58.58 | sashi | http://pastebin.com/360417 |
| 07:58.59 | AgresZina | green_earz |
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| 07:59.10 | sashi | if i try to use 24bits |
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| 07:59.22 | green_earz | is it working then ? |
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| 07:59.41 | sashi | but that doesnt really matter atm |
| 07:59.50 | sashi | all i need is my resolution higher |
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| 08:00.19 | valdyn | lofdev: welcmoe |
| 08:00.33 | mops | hello! is there some manual(tutorial) on how to make custom deb packagese from deb-src packages? |
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| 08:00.56 | green_earz | AgresZina: all so check and see if you router as the dns ip from your isp in it |
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| 08:01.09 | valdyn | mops: 'apt-get build-dep <packagename> && apt-get -b source <packagename>' |
| 08:01.28 | valdyn | mops: where <packagename> is any of the resulting binary packages. |
| 08:01.42 | sashi | so lofdev whats wrong |
| 08:01.46 | mops | valdyn: but when I need some switches or something like that... |
| 08:01.58 | mops | and will the package will be replaces corectly? |
| 08:02.03 | mops | if I want custom apache2 |
| 08:02.11 | mops | and have one installed from debian |
| 08:02.16 | lofdev | sashi: gimme a sec or two. i need to google something. |
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| 08:02.23 | green_earz | any one know what the command is the run the dhcp client |
| 08:02.26 | valdyn | mops: then you split up the second command into: apt-get source packagename, edit debian/rules, run 'dpkg-buildpackage' |
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| 08:02.37 | EksTeSi | dhcpdc ? |
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| 08:03.01 | EksTeSi | dhclient ? |
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| 08:03.20 | green_earz | yes that the one i think thanks |
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| 08:03.41 | green_earz | AgresZina: so dhclient |
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| 08:05.48 | lofdev | sashi - might be a problem with memory. it'll let you go 1024x768 @8bit color, right? |
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| 08:06.14 | sashi | no up to 16bit |
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| 08:06.26 | sashi | and 1024x1200 or w/e |
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| 08:06.59 | giggsey | Right, I tried changing it to VMA or whatever, and that didn't work. |
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| 08:07.20 | giggsey | afaik I have a built in gfx card (into the motherboard), and most likely its old (around 4/5 yearS) |
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| 08:07.51 | lofdev | sashi: you there? |
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| 08:08.12 | sashi | yea |
| 08:08.20 | giggsey | anyone for my question? |
| 08:08.20 | sashi | 16bit |
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| 08:08.28 | sashi | and 1280x1200 |
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| 08:08.52 | valdyn | !drxx giggsey |
| 08:08.53 | dpkg | giggsey: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 08:09.06 | giggsey | Yeah, I don't know what one to change it to |
| 08:09.11 | lofdev | sashi: make sure you have the line 'VideoRam 32768' in the "Device" section indicating i810, or you config file |
| 08:09.20 | giggsey | And I don't really have the time to do all of the options |
| 08:09.22 | Virtual | if I have this in last command : reboot ~ Sun Sep 11 09:41 that means that the server was rebooted how? |
| 08:09.26 | valdyn | giggsey: how about you tell us what gfx card it is? |
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| 08:09.55 | valdyn | giggsey: and you expect others to have time to assist you? |
| 08:09.56 | WiFiTux_ | anyone knows the package name for the gnome wireless applet? |
| 08:10.03 | giggsey | valdyn: its a built in gfx card, so I dunno, but its old, and my guess Intel, this PC is IBM Netvista 6569 if that helps |
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| 08:10.21 | shawn__ | My computer is messed up, apt-get doesn't work and either does GUI, could someone please give me a direct link to a console program to write an image to a CD so I can reinstall |
| 08:10.23 | valdyn | giggsey: 'lspci | grep -i vga' |
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| 08:10.33 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know when cops pull you over and they "Got you on radar"... are the required to lock it in so when you ask to see it... it's there? |
| 08:10.54 | giggsey | and that will do what valdyn? |
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| 08:11.08 | valdyn | giggsey: try it, read the manpage to lspci |
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| 08:11.13 | giggsey | ok |
| 08:11.13 | sashi | lofdev, pm |
| 08:11.15 | shawn__ | cdrecord |
| 08:11.20 | shawn__ | sorry |
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| 08:11.35 | shawn__ | valdyn: Could you do that please |
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| 08:12.34 | valdyn | !cdrecord |
| 08:12.34 | dpkg | hmm... cdrecord is a CD writing tool (renamed cdrtools) for .iso (the file system) and .cdr (cd audio). Available at http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html. Use -pad for .wav files when burning audio. Use -swab if your CDR uses little endian or the .cdr is in big endian -- basically if the audio on cd is static, use -swab. now from version 2.0 up it supports atapi cd burners with an option like -dev=AT |
| 08:12.42 | shawn__ | Thanks |
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| 08:13.46 | shawn__ | !echo "lynx http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html" > cd |
| 08:13.47 | dpkg | "lynx http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html" > cd |
| 08:14.04 | shawn__ | damb, how do you run a shell command in BitchX |
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| 08:14.22 | valdyn | shawn__: /exec probably |
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| 08:15.13 | giggsey | Rught, the lspci gave one one of its lines: |
| 08:15.16 | valdyn | shawn__: oh that website is down / doesnt exist |
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| 08:15.59 | giggsey | VG compatible controller: Intel Group 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] rev 02 |
| 08:16.05 | giggsey | *VGA |
| 08:16.09 | nimak | i get an error when trying to run bittorrent 4.1.4 |
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| 08:16.22 | sashi | i give yup |
| 08:16.24 | sashi | lopl |
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| 08:16.46 | lofdev | sashi: pm |
| 08:16.50 | sashi | ? |
| 08:16.52 | sashi | none |
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| 08:17.28 | nimak | ImportError: No module named Crypto.PublicKey |
| 08:17.29 | lofdev | sashi: Dell GX270, no? |
| 08:17.38 | sashi | Dell EP |
| 08:17.39 | sashi | something |
| 08:17.42 | sashi | anolag |
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| 08:17.44 | sashi | LCD |
| 08:17.45 | sashi | Flat |
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| 08:18.01 | lofdev | sashi: computer is a GX270? |
| 08:18.16 | sashi | no |
| 08:18.23 | sashi | dimesion 3000 |
| 08:18.24 | AgresZina | FIXXEd |
| 08:18.25 | AgresZina | whohoooo |
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| 08:19.04 | grexk | I just recently compiled a new kernel and it is working, but there are errors everytime I boot. And Im not using any initrd. How can I remove those messages? |
| 08:19.10 | valdyn | giggsey: pick a driver that starts with 'i' for intel, or vesa, not familiar with intel chipsets |
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| 08:19.10 | giggsey | for my problem, should I just try reconfiguring xserver again? |
| 08:19.17 | giggsey | kk valdyn |
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| 08:19.20 | giggsey | brb |
| 08:19.23 | AgresZina | you got me on point green_earz :) |
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| 08:21.04 | xuande | hello everyone |
| 08:21.13 | sashi | so anyone help me out |
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| 08:21.48 | hyperstream | umm ive just burnt a .iso to a disk works fine in my g/f's dad's windows box but when i stick it in here it says wrong filesystem type , i cant even browse the disk. it has a autorun.inf file as well. i just need to graba couple of files off it, any idea's? |
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| 08:22.19 | lofdev | sashi: you might make sure your BIOS version is A02 only. Web says this works ok. Or grab a Knoppix cd and see what it does |
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| 08:22.23 | stew | SerajewelKS: java-package is the name of a debian package, and j2se-package isn't? |
| 08:22.34 | sashi | i do have a bios of a02 |
| 08:22.36 | SerajewelKS | !info j2se-package |
| 08:22.38 | streuner | hyperstream: cat /proc/version |
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| 08:22.51 | SerajewelKS | !info j2se-package stable |
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| 08:23.01 | hyperstream | Linux version 2.6.12.5 (root@hyper) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #2 Sat Aug 20 22:40:24 EST 2005 |
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| 08:23.03 | SerajewelKS | hmm |
| 08:23.11 | SerajewelKS | stew, no idea where it came from =/ |
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| 08:23.24 | lofdev | sashi: check a knoppix cd and save a copy of dmesg and you x config and your x log where you can get them later. |
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| 08:23.48 | streuner | hyperstream: what happens if you use official kernel-image? |
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| 08:24.17 | hyperstream | ahh when i try to mount the new burn iso cd? |
| 08:24.26 | grexk | I just recently compiled a new kernel and it is working, but there are module errors everytime I boot. And Im not using any initrd. How can I remove those messages? |
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| 08:24.48 | hyperstream | streuner, ? |
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| 08:24.53 | streuner | hyperstream: no, if you use just a kernel-image |
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| 08:25.01 | lofdev | valdyn: thanks again |
| 08:25.06 | hyperstream | i dont have a kernel issue. |
| 08:25.09 | lofdev | thanks all. see ya. |
| 08:25.15 | xuande | what messgaes |
| 08:25.17 | ben_h | grexk: find what's trying to l load the modules, probably hotplug or something similar |
| 08:25.22 | giggsey | Nope |
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| 08:25.37 | giggsey | I selected i830 or something like that, it was a number in the 800's |
| 08:25.38 | hyperstream | mines compiled from source i perfer it that way since i can take out half the grab that i dont need . and compile stuff into the kernel such as lirc and what not |
| 08:25.41 | rosemary | is there a stable version of xfce for sarge? |
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| 08:26.07 | streuner | rosemary: /msg dpkg search |
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| 08:26.42 | grexk | ben_h: does the /etc/modules.conf have connections with modules which are loaded everytime you boot? |
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| 08:26.54 | hyperstream | nm ive got it working |
| 08:26.58 | ben_h | no, i don't think so |
| 08:27.10 | ben_h | grexk: have a look in /etc/hotplug/ |
| 08:27.22 | ben_h | probably something in there you can tweak |
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| 08:27.41 | compguymac | anyone to help with a video driver problem with debian? |
| 08:27.43 | grexk | ah ok.. |
| 08:27.43 | grexk | I'll try that... |
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| 08:27.57 | giggsey | compguymac, care to explain furtheer |
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| 08:28.12 | compguymac | sure :) wondering if anyone would like to help |
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| 08:28.35 | giggsey | I can't help, its just im also have gfx problems |
| 08:28.43 | compguymac | i have a geforce card and trying to get xwindows to work |
| 08:28.44 | glm | rosemary, I use XFCE 3.8.10 with sarge but you can install XFCE4 with apt-get install xfce4 |
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| 08:29.11 | compguymac | i got it installed and configured the XF86Config-4 file and it give me an error: |
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| 08:29.26 | compguymac | fatal server error: no screens found |
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| 08:29.44 | drac | compguymac: That's not the real error. It's above that, in /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 08:29.51 | rosemary | streuner: /msg dpkg search gives me no such file or directory |
| 08:29.55 | compguymac | failed to load module "nvidia" no drivers found |
| 08:30.05 | giggsey | meh, I might go and install gentoo (maybe ubuntu again) |
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| 08:30.10 | grexk | compguymac try to edit your /etc/X11/XF86CONF-4 |
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| 08:30.13 | grexk | manually |
| 08:30.27 | drac | compguymac: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 08:30.33 | grexk | the problem lies on "server layout section" |
| 08:30.36 | compguymac | i did that |
| 08:30.37 | giggsey | anyone for my problem |
| 08:30.39 | glm | rosemary, /msg dpkg search is an IRC command, not a shell command ;-) |
| 08:30.40 | glm | rosemary, I use XFCE 3.8.10 with sarge but you can install XFCE4 with apt-get install xfce4 |
| 08:30.40 | streuner | rosemary: type that into your irc-client |
| 08:30.41 | compguymac | thats how i got to where i am |
| 08:30.46 | rosemary | ah I see what I did wrong now - I did apt-get and missed the install part of the command |
| 08:30.48 | compguymac | giggsey |
| 08:30.54 | compguymac | i can help after i get my figured out |
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| 08:31.00 | compguymac | your probably right behind me |
| 08:31.01 | compguymac | haha |
| 08:31.02 | giggsey | I have a built in gfx card |
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| 08:31.16 | compguymac | i did edit it manually |
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| 08:31.25 | compguymac | so far as the nvidia site says to |
| 08:31.29 | rosemary | glm and streuner thanks :-) |
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| 08:31.36 | compguymac | what kinda card is it? |
| 08:31.39 | compguymac | geforce? |
| 08:31.44 | compguymac | duh gfx |
| 08:31.45 | compguymac | haha |
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| 08:31.57 | compguymac | how far did you get? |
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| 08:32.04 | giggsey | me? some crappy built in intel one afaik |
| 08:32.12 | compguymac | o |
| 08:32.13 | giggsey | all I know is that its built into my motherboard |
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| 08:33.02 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, type lspci |
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| 08:33.07 | giggsey | I did Sera |
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| 08:33.15 | giggsey | I typed the output ages ago |
| 08:33.20 | giggsey | But I'll type it again... |
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| 08:33.34 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, i wasn't here ages ago |
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| 08:33.37 | rosemary | apt-get install xfce gives me no such package |
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| 08:33.54 | giggsey | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] rev 02 |
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| 08:34.12 | giggsey | and something about a multymedia video controller |
| 08:34.12 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, and what is the problem you're having with it |
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| 08:34.29 | giggsey | Sera -> It won't load my login screen |
| 08:34.42 | poonj | hey guys...I'm experieing some trouble running an xscreensaver. it sys that I need to have DRI enabled.. |
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| 08:35.09 | SerajewelKS | poonj, oh no... what will you do without a screensaver!? |
| 08:35.15 | giggsey | lol |
| 08:35.27 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, has it ever run [xgk]dm successfully in the past? |
| 08:35.41 | grexk | giggsey wat is the exact error? |
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| 08:35.48 | giggsey | sera -> I only installed debian last night (and left it on all night doing a netinstall) |
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| 08:36.13 | giggsey | grexk -> No error, just gives me blank screen, or goes back to the text based login |
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| 08:36.27 | SerajewelKS | grexk, stuff in init.d doesn't write errors to the console |
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| 08:36.38 | SerajewelKS | grexk, not if it's configured properly anyway |
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| 08:37.04 | deal | good morning to every body ... from Spain ;-) |
| 08:37.09 | grexk | how bout dpkg-reconfigure xdm or kdm |
| 08:37.09 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, this is a laptop? |
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| 08:37.25 | giggsey | sera -> No, some old IBM NetVista 6569 |
| 08:37.28 | SerajewelKS | grexk, it's a problem with the X server config, not the display manager |
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| 08:37.40 | grexk | ok then... |
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| 08:37.46 | giggsey | ^_^ |
| 08:37.52 | grexk | what does xserver log says? |
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| 08:37.57 | giggsey | dunno |
| 08:38.02 | giggsey | where's the log |
| 08:38.09 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, try this from the console: xinit |
| 08:38.14 | giggsey | kk |
| 08:38.17 | giggsey | brb |
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| 08:38.22 | deal | I have a problem when I change to spanish the locales es_es the fonts of the amule are too small .. |
| 08:38.23 | SerajewelKS | find the line that says (EE) at the start or whatever |
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| 08:38.49 | grexk | giggsey find the line (EE)... |
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| 08:39.19 | deal | it's the same with the xmms program ... |
| 08:39.43 | SerajewelKS | deal, learn english? |
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| 08:40.06 | deal | also ... ;-) |
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| 08:40.34 | deal | but for the moment I want to change the fonts ... |
| 08:40.37 | giggsey | No screens found it gives on part of it |
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| 08:40.48 | compguymac | giggsey |
| 08:40.52 | compguymac | im where u are |
| 08:40.52 | giggsey | yeah |
| 08:40.55 | giggsey | lol |
| 08:40.57 | compguymac | apt-get -t $NVDIST install nvidia-glx |
| 08:40.58 | giggsey | we're doomed! |
| 08:41.01 | grexk | ok then, I just have that problem a while ago... |
| 08:41.03 | woodland | i have problem installing kernel 2.6.13, i used command make-kpkg kernel_image in /usr/src/linux, but i got error |
| 08:41.03 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, try 'modprobe agpgart' as root |
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| 08:41.07 | giggsey | I don't have nvideo |
| 08:41.10 | giggsey | kk Sera |
| 08:41.11 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, then xinit again |
| 08:41.13 | giggsey | brb |
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| 08:41.25 | compguymac | what do i put where it says $NVDIST? |
| 08:41.27 | sashi | whats testing source? |
| 08:41.29 | compguymac | the link? |
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| 08:41.43 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, apt-get install nvidia-glx |
| 08:41.46 | SerajewelKS | you shouldn't need -t |
| 08:41.56 | woodland | i have posted my error in #flood |
| 08:42.03 | manu | where can i get 2.6.8.1 debian kernel source ? |
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| 08:42.20 | SerajewelKS | woodland, why are you building a kernel |
| 08:42.20 | sashi | ok yea guys so whats testing source |
| 08:42.22 | giggsey | same problem |
| 08:42.27 | giggsey | no screens found |
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| 08:42.41 | drac | manu: Debian never had such kernel version. |
| 08:42.51 | woodland | seraje, i dont have 2.6.13 when i apt-cache search it |
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| 08:43.28 | MustangMatt | manu: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 08:43.30 | SerajewelKS | woodland, then it's not available for you. building your own package is more than likely going to break your system, or cause random headaches. |
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| 08:43.46 | grexk | giggsey you have to manually edit your /etc/X11/XF86CONFIG-4 |
| 08:43.53 | sashi | guys? |
| 08:43.55 | giggsey | and edit what? |
| 08:43.58 | sashi | whats testing source |
| 08:43.59 | giggsey | in that file |
| 08:44.00 | compguymac | your a god :) |
| 08:44.00 | sashi | the url |
| 08:44.03 | sashi | for apt |
| 08:44.11 | woodland | ok |
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| 08:44.21 | compguymac | it works :):):):) |
| 08:44.23 | compguymac | i got it |
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| 08:44.28 | compguymac | omg, i own you like no other |
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| 08:44.34 | giggsey | grexk -> what do I have to edit in that file? |
| 08:44.40 | compguymac | SerajewelKS |
| 08:44.48 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, what |
| 08:44.55 | compguymac | you made my night |
| 08:44.59 | grexk | can u pm me? |
| 08:45.00 | compguymac | it all works now |
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| 08:45.15 | sashi | just one question guys |
| 08:45.15 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, yay |
| 08:45.19 | compguymac | giggsey, i wont leave you hanging, ill help you |
| 08:45.19 | grexk | and paste your x configuration |
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| 08:45.38 | kisielk | hm |
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| 08:45.48 | grexk | giggsey pm me and paste your x configuration |
| 08:45.51 | kisielk | has anyone seen this error in CUPS before: ? |
| 08:45.52 | kisielk | E [11/Sep/2005:01:45:17 -0700] Unable to convert file 0 to printable format for job 3! |
| 08:45.55 | kisielk | I [11/Sep/2005:01:45:17 -0700] Hint: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed? |
| 08:45.59 | giggsey | and to get to my conf etc I have to quit screen, my dedicated's ssh, then do what I want |
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| 08:46.02 | kisielk | and yes I do have ghostscript installed.. |
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| 08:46.11 | compguymac | i guess grexk will help ya now |
| 08:46.12 | sashi | anyone have a full /sources.list? |
| 08:46.19 | sashi | that has like everyhing? |
| 08:46.23 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, it looks like there might not be a kernel module for that graphics card |
| 08:46.25 | MustangMatt | full sources.list? |
| 08:46.30 | giggsey | sera, meh |
| 08:46.33 | sashi | like one with the urls |
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| 08:46.36 | MustangMatt | Define everything? |
| 08:46.37 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, try drxx: |
| 08:46.37 | giggsey | my ubuntu live cd worked |
| 08:46.38 | SerajewelKS | !drxx |
| 08:46.38 | dpkg | hmm... drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 08:46.48 | giggsey | I did that before |
| 08:46.48 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, try the "svga" or "vesa" drivers |
| 08:46.50 | sashi | one with all the urls |
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| 08:46.56 | giggsey | tried vesa |
| 08:46.59 | MustangMatt | What URLs? |
| 08:47.00 | giggsey | I'll try svga |
| 08:47.02 | grexk | dpkg-reconfigure x* wont help you guys |
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| 08:47.04 | sashi | the testing |
| 08:47.07 | sashi | unstable |
| 08:47.08 | sashi | stable |
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| 08:47.15 | SerajewelKS | grexk, you suggested it earlier |
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| 08:47.35 | giggsey | my ubuntu live cd works, so I don't know why this doesn't... |
| 08:47.35 | nimak | use the same url as what you normally use, just change the stable to testing, or unstable |
| 08:47.39 | grexk | not now because the problem is on screen... |
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| 08:47.43 | MustangMatt | Just copy and paste three times and change eat set stable, testing, unstable |
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| 08:47.56 | sashi | eat set? |
| 08:48.02 | SerajewelKS | grexk, indeed now. if the wrong display module is chosen, that happens. |
| 08:48.07 | giggsey | edit sashi |
| 08:48.15 | poonj | hey guys |
| 08:48.23 | grexk | giggsey just pm me and paste your x conf maybe I could help you... |
| 08:48.23 | giggsey | ok, brb, trying svga |
| 08:48.25 | poonj | for DRI to work in x windows...do I need drm in the kernel? |
| 08:48.30 | woodland | seraje, i am not supposed to install 2.6.13 |
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| 08:48.48 | SerajewelKS | poonj, you need an accelerated x driver, iirc |
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| 08:49.04 | SerajewelKS | woodland: |
| 08:49.07 | SerajewelKS | !debian kernel image |
| 08:49.07 | dpkg | <hexxeh|work> 99% of people in here who ask about compiling their own kernels are idiots, who don't know what they did, or did it badly. debian kernel images exist for a reason. |
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| 08:49.19 | woodland | but i used that command make-kpkg kernel_image , so how do i remove unwanted files |
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| 08:49.41 | SerajewelKS | woodland, did you make it to installing the built kernel package? |
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| 08:50.24 | poonj | I'm using an ndivia card |
| 08:50.31 | woodland | seraje, i used the command 'make-kpkg kernel_image ' inside /usr/src/linux |
| 08:50.44 | grexk | woodland google on debian kernel building howto |
| 08:50.46 | drac | poonj: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 08:50.47 | SerajewelKS | !tell poonj about nvidia one liner |
| 08:50.51 | woodland | and my pc was scrolling down many lines after that |
| 08:51.07 | grexk | yah...a lot mesg |
| 08:51.14 | woodland | where do i see grub.list |
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| 08:51.31 | poonj | I have the driver installed.. |
| 08:51.31 | MustangMatt | updatedb;locate grub.list |
| 08:51.41 | poonj | its just the direct rendering isn't enabled for some reason |
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| 08:51.49 | grexk | in the /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 08:51.52 | SerajewelKS | woodland, you should just be able to remove the kernel-source package you installed |
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| 08:52.03 | grexk | or use the command update-grub.... |
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| 08:52.47 | woodland | seraje, how do i remove it, i dont knpw the name of the package, |
| 08:52.47 | SerajewelKS | poonj, 'dpkg -i nvidia-module nvidia-glx' show both as installed, and you are sure you've configured X to use the nv or nvidia module? |
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| 08:53.02 | SerajewelKS | woodland, you installed the package.. you should know the name of it |
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| 08:53.09 | woodland | i used tarball to make it |
| 08:53.12 | poonj | yeah |
| 08:53.16 | SerajewelKS | woodland, okay, that's bad |
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| 08:53.19 | MustangMatt | ouch |
| 08:53.22 | poonj | because I see the nvidia startup screen when I boot up to X |
| 08:53.23 | compguymac | how do i enable more resolution modes? i only have 800x600, ive tried changing the modes in XF86Config-4 and it isnt working |
| 08:53.34 | SerajewelKS | woodland, never ever EVER use a non-debian kernel, ESPECIALLY one fron the kernel.org sources! |
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| 08:53.47 | woodland | ok |
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| 08:53.53 | woodland | so what do i do now |
| 08:53.54 | flowtron | poonj : glxgears? |
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| 08:53.58 | MustangMatt | woodland: I missed the start of this conversation, why are you trying to use a non-stock kernel anyway? |
| 08:54.00 | grexk | SerajewelKs thats a bad suggestion... |
| 08:54.01 | SerajewelKS | woodland, you should only have to delete the folder you extracted the sources to |
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| 08:54.16 | woodland | ok |
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| 08:54.30 | SerajewelKS | grexk, on what grounds |
| 08:54.31 | grexk | woodland if you like to delete the files you just install |
| 08:54.34 | MustangMatt | What is he trying to do? Just learn how to build a kernel? |
| 08:54.42 | poonj | glowtron yeah |
| 08:54.43 | woodland | i did delete that folder, but the command 'df -h' shows that my usage has increased |
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| 08:54.59 | SerajewelKS | woodland, did you do a 'make install' after building? |
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| 08:55.08 | woodland | no |
| 08:55.09 | grexk | manually delete /lib/modules/"kernel version" and /boot/"bzImage" |
| 08:55.16 | grexk | that's it ... |
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| 08:55.50 | compguymac | how do i enable more resolution modes? i only have 800x600, ive tried changing the modes in XF86Config-4 and it isnt working |
| 08:55.54 | SerajewelKS | grexk, why is it bad to tell people to only use debian kernels? |
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| 08:56.00 | compguymac | sorry for posting twice, dont knwo if anyone saw it |
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| 08:56.11 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, /msg dpkg drxx |
| 08:56.11 | MustangMatt | compguymac: Use Ubuntu :) |
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| 08:56.22 | compguymac | i hate ubuntu |
| 08:56.23 | compguymac | it sucks |
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| 08:56.30 | MustangMatt | compguymac: Sorry I don't know. I never use x under debian. |
| 08:56.31 | SerajewelKS | !start a distro war |
| 08:56.31 | dpkg | Progeny rox0rz! |
| 08:56.33 | DrZoot | SerajewelKS: just out of curiosity what is the basis for your never use a vanilla kernel comment |
| 08:56.33 | grexk | because some patches requires a clean kernels..like squashfs and openmosix etc |
| 08:56.35 | bomb | MustangMatt: why would you recommend another distro to fix something as easy as that |
| 08:56.39 | MustangMatt | compguymac: What problems do you have with it? |
| 08:56.58 | bomb | compguymac: are you editing XF86Config-4 by hand, or are you using debconf |
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| 08:57.08 | MustangMatt | bomb: I clarified that I had no experience with x under pure debian. |
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| 08:57.15 | bomb | whatever |
| 08:57.21 | MustangMatt | Yep. |
| 08:57.23 | SerajewelKS | DrZoot, because they cause problems.. simple as that. debian has a method for the way a kernel install is structured. using anything other than a debian kernel image can lead to confusing problems, some of which are serious. |
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| 08:57.34 | grexk | compguymac don't say that If you don't like the distro don't use it:( |
| 08:57.40 | woodland | how do i remove all unwanted files, i dont know how many times i installed and uninstalled various softwares |
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| 08:58.00 | MustangMatt | I'm still trying to find out why woodland is using non-stock kernels. Does anyone know? |
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| 08:58.09 | grexk | yes... |
| 08:58.12 | DrZoot | SerajewelKS: if you use kernel-package and install a vanilla kernel the debian way isnt it basically the same? |
| 08:58.13 | giggsey | nopw |
| 08:58.17 | compguymac | MustangMatt said to use it |
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| 08:58.20 | dvaey | is this place for debian help, or just general chatter ? |
| 08:58.20 | SerajewelKS | grexk, i don't see why that's a good reason for suggesting that people use debian kernels only. if you want some patch applied, make a debian package out of it against the debian kernel image. |
| 08:58.21 | giggsey | there is no svga on the list |
| 08:58.23 | woodland | mustang, what do u mean non stock kernels |
| 08:58.24 | compguymac | i said i dont like it, tahts all |
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| 08:58.30 | compguymac | sorry |
| 08:58.31 | SerajewelKS | DrZoot, you'd think so |
| 08:58.36 | woodland | i think it was mistake |
| 08:58.42 | compguymac | video cards bus identifer.... |
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| 08:58.47 | compguymac | what do i put there? lol |
| 08:58.51 | MustangMatt | woodland: The ones that come with debian the kernel-images that can be installed via package managers vs trying to compile your own. |
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| 08:58.59 | giggsey | anyone? |
| 08:59.05 | MustangMatt | woodland: Do you need some feature that isn't available in the debian kernel images? |
| 08:59.07 | bomb | compguymac: don't put anything there if you don't know what to put |
| 08:59.15 | compguymac | k |
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| 08:59.25 | SerajewelKS | DrZoot, if you compile a kernel at all you're supposed to use the debian kernel source packages |
| 08:59.27 | giggsey | sera? compguy? grexk? |
| 08:59.36 | grexk | what now? |
| 08:59.43 | SerajewelKS | giggsey, dunno what to tell you |
| 08:59.45 | giggsey | svga isn't on the list |
| 08:59.45 | bomb | compguymac: you didn't answer my question, have you edited XF86Config-4 by hand, or not |
| 09:00.02 | woodland | mustang, i need wirelees for which support is not there in 2.4.27 i am uisng |
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| 09:00.23 | compguymac | yes |
| 09:00.24 | compguymac | i have |
| 09:00.26 | SerajewelKS | woodland, use 2.6 |
| 09:00.28 | dvaey | am I the only one irked by this change from libqt3 to libqt3c102 ? it seems like I have to choose which set of programs I use |
| 09:00.28 | MustangMatt | woodland: Ah okay, that helps. |
| 09:00.29 | compguymac | and thats how i got startx to work |
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| 09:00.34 | MustangMatt | woodland: Are you using woody or sarge? |
| 09:00.37 | DrZoot | SerajewelKS: i really wouldnt know but surely the debian patches to the kernel cant make it that radically different as to preclude the use of vanilla sources |
| 09:00.39 | compguymac | but im reconfigureing xfree86 now |
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| 09:00.46 | woodland | mustang, sarge |
| 09:00.53 | bomb | compguymac: you do realize that once you edit that file, debconf will no longer handle it |
| 09:00.54 | DrZoot | dvaey: install from source :) |
| 09:00.56 | grexk | giggsey can you pm me and paste your "XF86conf" |
| 09:01.02 | giggsey | I can't |
| 09:01.03 | MustangMatt | woodland: You can just install a 2.6 kernel that will take care of wireless for you. |
| 09:01.10 | compguymac | no, im just going off of what people say to do in here |
| 09:01.14 | compguymac | what should i do? |
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| 09:01.18 | SerajewelKS | DrZoot, i don't know. all i know is people a lot smarter than me have said it causes problems, and i've seen it cause many from people who think using the kernel.org sources is better. |
| 09:01.29 | giggsey | I'm connected via ssh on my dedicated, whilst trying to get this working |
| 09:01.31 | dvaey | drzoot, thatd be fine if only one package was affected, but half packages require the old naming convention and half require the new one |
| 09:01.33 | giggsey | ircii sucks |
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| 09:01.40 | woodland | mustang, when i do 'apt-cache search kernel-image' i get big list of packages |
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| 09:01.50 | cat | woodland: yeah |
| 09:01.51 | cat | and? |
| 09:01.55 | grexk | ok then I cannot help you giggsey..?are using LTSP? |
| 09:01.56 | dvaey | drzoot, Im just wondering if theres a path youre meant to follow to make the qt3c102 upgrade work |
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| 09:01.58 | MustangMatt | woodland: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 09:02.00 | SerajewelKS | DrZoot, if you want to prove me wrong, go compile and install the kernel.org sources. then tell me if you system is broken. |
| 09:02.02 | bomb | compguymac: hang on, there is something you have to do if you edit that file by hand |
| 09:02.04 | giggsey | LTSP? |
| 09:02.08 | SerajewelKS | your* |
| 09:02.11 | MustangMatt | woodland: What CPU are you using? |
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| 09:02.40 | SerajewelKS | woodland, in other words, type 'uname -a' and paste us the result |
| 09:02.41 | grexk | Sera: Im using kernel.org sources from now and I don't have problems |
| 09:02.43 | woodland | mustang i just used command /exec uname -a here, can u see the output |
| 09:02.48 | DrZoot | SerajewelKS: i dont really want to prove you wrong, but i did move a debian 3.1 system from 2.6.8debian to 2.6.12.5vanilla this morning |
| 09:02.52 | SerajewelKS | grexk, you're lucky |
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| 09:03.00 | grexk | just some modprobe modules not found... |
| 09:03.05 | compguymac | should i kill the dpkg-reconfiguration process? |
| 09:03.05 | grexk | hehe |
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| 09:03.09 | cat | compguymac: why? |
| 09:03.10 | compguymac | bomb |
| 09:03.15 | compguymac | u said.... |
| 09:03.21 | SerajewelKS | woodland, no |
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| 09:03.34 | woodland | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:03.50 | compguymac | bombcompguymac: you do realize that once you edit that file, debconf will no longer handle it |
| 09:03.50 | compguymac | bombcompguymac: you do realize that once you edit that file, debconf will no longer |
| 09:03.51 | MustangMatt | woodland: What CPU are you using? Pentium 3/Pentium 4 or Athlon? |
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| 09:03.56 | bomb | compguymac: read the top of XF86Config-4. it tells you what to do if you edited that file by hand. |
| 09:04.02 | woodland | athlon, mustang |
| 09:04.02 | compguymac | k |
| 09:04.07 | SerajewelKS | grexk, if you think using a debian kernel is bad advice, i'm naming you as the official vanilla-kernel-support-guy |
| 09:04.15 | DrZoot | dvaey: i meant remove all the debian qt and kde packages and go from source, i got fed up with the state of kde in unstable the other day ( and yes i relize what unstable means ) and installed qt and kde from source works like a charm |
| 09:04.27 | grexk | Lol:::: |
| 09:04.32 | MustangMatt | woodland: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
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| 09:04.44 | woodland | ok |
| 09:04.46 | giggsey | I might install ubuntu |
| 09:04.50 | giggsey | It may work, the livecd did |
| 09:04.53 | grexk | I LOVE DEBIAN I like things to be from scratch...hehe:) |
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| 09:05.01 | compguymac | ok, it says what commands to run to have it automatically updated |
| 09:05.07 | compguymac | bomb |
| 09:05.08 | MustangMatt | giggsey: Ubuntu works well for what it is. |
| 09:05.12 | giggsey | true |
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| 09:05.28 | bomb | compguymac: exactly. |
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| 09:05.36 | compguymac | ok, so should i run thoes commands? |
| 09:05.41 | bomb | compguymac: exactly. |
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| 09:05.45 | compguymac | k |
| 09:05.46 | compguymac | brb |
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| 09:06.02 | SerajewelKS | grexk, if it works for you, cool. i'm just saying it's not a good idea for debian newbies to be working against the debian system and expecting it to work when it probably won't. |
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| 09:06.19 | grexk | giggsey: you'll never learn if you cannot find a solution to your problem. Other distro might break also |
| 09:06.25 | MustangMatt | SerajewelKS: I agree with that statement. NEVER using a non-debian kernel might be a bit extreme though. |
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| 09:06.32 | vew | I'm using 2.6.12.3-vanilla on sid and 2.6.13-vanilla on sarge without problems |
| 09:06.33 | giggsey | true grexk |
| 09:06.45 | giggsey | But the livecd of ubuntu worked fine, giving me gnome |
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| 09:06.56 | SerajewelKS | MustangMatt, except for the fact that it gets people's attention. like the people who complain that unstable is broken. |
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| 09:07.07 | SerajewelKS | MustangMatt, and see /msg dpkg debian kernel image |
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| 09:07.20 | berzerka | hello guys, having a problem. upgraded to etch, went smooth so far, replaced xfree with xorg. now when i want to upgrade my packages, xlibmesa-gl fails with the error: unable to create './usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2': no such file or directory. any ideas what could be the problem? |
| 09:07.32 | grexk | SerajewelKs: You're right for a newbhie you have to stick with binarys from debian... |
| 09:07.40 | SerajewelKS | berzerka, xorg isn't available on etch is it? |
| 09:07.47 | grexk | SerajewelKs: You're right for a newbhie should have to stick with binarys from debian... |
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| 09:07.53 | bomb | xorg has been in testing for a few days now |
| 09:08.01 | MustangMatt | The problem with this channel is that there are two types of users.... Those who want to use their computer and Those who want to learn how to figure problems out. |
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| 09:08.09 | giggsey | brb - nature calsl |
| 09:08.25 | SerajewelKS | bomb, that's cool.. is it stable enough for desktop use do you think? |
| 09:08.26 | MustangMatt | I think most of the members here seem to forget that some people are more interested in using their PC than fixing problems. |
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| 09:08.40 | bomb | SerajewelKS: yeah, it runs great for me |
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| 09:08.58 | grexk | mustangMatt: you are absolutely correct... |
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| 09:09.03 | SerajewelKS | bomb, think it's worth the risk to switch from xfree? (any oddities you see?) |
| 09:09.14 | bomb | i did get xorg to lock up a few times but i had a ridiculous amount of graphical apps open simultaneously |
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| 09:09.36 | porkpie | Hi, has anyone here create a bootable usb pen ? |
| 09:09.43 | bomb | SerajewelKS: i don't see any reason to switch at all actually, xfree86 always ran fine for me |
| 09:09.45 | porkpie | created |
| 09:09.47 | SerajewelKS | porkpie, yes, google "flash linux" |
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| 09:09.52 | MustangMatt | porkpie: Windows or Linux? |
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| 09:10.15 | MustangMatt | porkpie: There was just an article on doing a windows based one on Tomshardware.com this week. |
| 09:10.21 | compguymac | bomb : the last command it says to run is to reconfigure xfree86 |
| 09:10.24 | compguymac | shale i do that now? |
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| 09:10.44 | compguymac | just remembered u said it wouldnt work correctly if i did that, but now its safe? |
| 09:10.45 | SerajewelKS | bomb, isn't xorg supposed to be more flexible? |
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| 09:10.49 | bomb | compguymac: yes. but this time, the changes you make will actually get saved in the file, then you can restart X |
| 09:10.55 | grexk | compguymac are you ok now? |
| 09:11.02 | compguymac | should be, lol |
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| 09:11.14 | compguymac | first night on debian after yearsssss on slack, ahha |
| 09:11.17 | berzerka | so, anyone a hint why xlibmesa-gl fails with unable to create './usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2': no such file or directory ? |
| 09:11.19 | grexk | hehe |
| 09:11.19 | porkpie | MustangMatt:where's the article. I have been set a challange to get it to boot into winpe .....and I only have a few hours left |
| 09:11.19 | compguymac | never really used xwindows |
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| 09:11.32 | nimak | really? |
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| 09:11.34 | bomb | SerajewelKS: the only reason i can see for needing xorg is if you need 3D or you have some uber-new video card |
| 09:11.37 | grexk | so whats the difference? |
| 09:11.49 | MustangMatt | porkpie: The article is on Tomshardware.com it was actually booting into BartsPE |
| 09:11.52 | SerajewelKS | bomb, i have 3d accel with xfree.. is xorg better with it or something? |
| 09:11.56 | grexk | Cause I havent tried slack? |
| 09:11.57 | compguymac | grexk me? |
| 09:11.59 | compguymac | o |
| 09:12.02 | grexk | yup |
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| 09:12.15 | MustangMatt | porkpie: THe article is titled: Windows in your pocket. |
| 09:12.16 | bomb | SerajewelKS: from what i have read, xorg is better for 3D |
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| 09:12.30 | porkpie | MustangMatt:I can't use Bartpe |
| 09:12.31 | compguymac | slack i just used forever because it was really straight forward and just worked, the computer did get mad at me like it seems like in other distros |
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| 09:12.44 | compguymac | but you know, we all get tired of the same thing after awhile :p |
| 09:12.47 | MustangMatt | porkpie: Yes, but you can copy the bootable files just like you would for BartsPE |
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| 09:12.57 | MustangMatt | porkpie: I would guess anyway. |
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| 09:13.29 | grexk | compguymac: why then you shift to debian? |
| 09:13.39 | compguymac | everyone raves about it |
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| 09:13.56 | compguymac | so i thought ide give a try for something new in over 12 years |
| 09:13.58 | MustangMatt | compguymac: What is your goal for your PC? Server or workstation? |
| 09:13.59 | grexk | ah ok... |
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| 09:14.06 | compguymac | workstation |
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| 09:14.16 | grexk | compguymac: so you sysad? |
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| 09:14.18 | compguymac | all my servers are all fine and have been :) knock on wood |
| 09:14.23 | SerajewelKS | bomb, thanks. i might switch tomorrow.. but right now it's time for some sleep. =) |
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| 09:14.25 | compguymac | sysad? |
| 09:14.29 | MustangMatt | compguymac: I know people on here would disagree with me, but I have to strongly recommend ubuntu or some other desktop based distribution. |
| 09:14.37 | grexk | system administrator.. |
| 09:14.43 | compguymac | u know, i tried ubuntu the other day |
| 09:14.51 | compguymac | i spent 2 days with just problems |
| 09:14.54 | MustangMatt | and how did it go? |
| 09:14.55 | MustangMatt | Really? |
| 09:14.57 | compguymac | i was over it really quick |
| 09:14.58 | compguymac | ya |
| 09:15.00 | grexk | MustangMatt: its ok... |
| 09:15.01 | nimak | wow |
| 09:15.02 | MustangMatt | What sort of problems? |
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| 09:15.17 | compguymac | i guess its fine for someone that just searches the interent and reads email |
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| 09:15.22 | nimak | ubuntu is supposed to "just work" more than other distros |
| 09:15.24 | grexk | I spent 2 weeks on ubuntu... |
| 09:15.29 | MustangMatt | Because it's still debian. |
| 09:15.36 | compguymac | i cant remember, but just little problems here and there that just got really anoying |
| 09:15.42 | MustangMatt | compguymac: What else are you trying to do that you couldn't? |
| 09:15.44 | SerajewelKS | the kubuntu live cd is tight |
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| 09:15.57 | MustangMatt | Oh yah, they just released that CD didn't they? |
| 09:15.58 | grexk | then upgraded my knoppix3.7 for sarge:) |
| 09:16.03 | compguymac | have something stable that runs and doesent have an attitude |
| 09:16.05 | compguymac | lol |
| 09:16.15 | compguymac | thats why i stuck with slack |
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| 09:16.24 | compguymac | i dislike kde |
| 09:16.25 | grexk | lol...:) |
| 09:16.26 | compguymac | im a gnome guy |
| 09:16.27 | compguymac | so ya |
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| 09:16.31 | MustangMatt | compguymac: Can you remember any specifics of your problems because I'm guessing you might have those same problems with pure debian. |
| 09:16.39 | grexk | compguymac: why hate kde.. |
| 09:16.44 | MustangMatt | compguymac: Especially if they're hardware related. |
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| 09:16.50 | grexk | im both..lol |
| 09:16.50 | compguymac | well not hate |
| 09:16.52 | compguymac | but |
| 09:16.56 | SerajewelKS | !start a wm war |
| 09:16.56 | dpkg | enlightenment bites! |
| 09:17.12 | grexk | sera:lol |
| 09:17.18 | compguymac | it just has way too much going on with it, gnome is straight to the point, very clean environment |
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| 09:17.20 | MustangMatt | I guess woodland installed the kernel image and didn't come back up after reboot. |
| 09:17.26 | grexk | sera: what WM u use? |
| 09:17.28 | compguymac | not 84289347298347 tools and games and stuff, lol |
| 09:17.34 | SerajewelKS | i like that debian gives you a choice... ubuntu says GNOMEGNOMEGNOME |
| 09:17.36 | kisielk | ok |
| 09:17.43 | kisielk | how come my cups doesnt have a mime.convs |
| 09:17.43 | SerajewelKS | grexk, kde |
| 09:17.44 | kisielk | or a mime.types file |
| 09:17.47 | grexk | compguy:lol |
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| 09:17.58 | grexk | brb... |
| 09:17.58 | compguymac | hey, question |
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| 09:18.11 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, you don't need those tools. you can uninstall them. |
| 09:18.30 | compguymac | if i dont know what res my 21" monitor can handel, should i just choose the higest? and go from there in xwindows? |
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| 09:18.44 | compguymac | ive used gnome for 15 days now, lol |
| 09:18.48 | compguymac | never used xwindows |
| 09:18.53 | compguymac | before that |
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| 09:18.57 | compguymac | that i can remember |
| 09:18.58 | MustangMatt | Here's my technical debian dilemna for the night... I have a woody mailserver that's highly customized and in a production environment and I can't decide if I should just setup a new sarge server and migrate everything or try to upgrade the mail server directly. :) |
| 09:18.58 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, and you're bashing KDE... wtf |
| 09:19.06 | compguymac | haha, i dont bash |
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| 09:19.09 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, use KDE for 15 days. then come back. |
| 09:19.13 | MustangMatt | compguymac: What monitor is it? |
| 09:19.16 | compguymac | its just user prefrence, thats why there is more then one |
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| 09:19.30 | compguymac | Nokia 445Xi |
| 09:19.43 | compguymac | its an old beast |
| 09:19.45 | SerajewelKS | personally, i used gnome for a month. then i tried kde. and kde just made more sense. *shrug* |
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| 09:19.50 | kisielk | dammit |
| 09:19.54 | kisielk | cups is driving me insane |
| 09:19.55 | MustangMatt | compguymac: It will do 1600x1200 |
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| 09:19.58 | kisielk | anyone here a cups expert? |
| 09:19.59 | compguymac | but works like a charm becides adding 500 pounds on my desk |
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| 09:20.16 | compguymac | crap! |
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| 09:20.23 | grexk | compguy: try to use xdebconfigurator it will help you... |
| 09:20.25 | compguymac | i chose 1600-1200 too fast for x too use |
| 09:20.26 | compguymac | aahh |
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| 09:20.36 | MustangMatt | too fast? |
| 09:20.37 | compguymac | cant go back huh? |
| 09:20.42 | compguymac | i pressed enter too fast |
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| 09:20.58 | compguymac | and went to the next screen |
| 09:21.03 | bomb | compguymac: you can always reconfigure it, just don't edit that file by hand |
| 09:21.03 | nimak | i used KDE for a while, when i was first playing with linux, then tried gnome, and i liked the cleanness of gnome |
| 09:21.11 | grexk | it well detect hardware setting and video card...I use it to configure my X server |
| 09:21.19 | compguymac | now i have to go threw the whole thing again |
| 09:21.19 | compguymac | haha |
| 09:21.28 | compguymac | ill jsut kill this process and start over |
| 09:21.37 | bomb | compguymac: the entire process takes what, 90 seconds? |
| 09:21.38 | grexk | compguy: lol |
| 09:21.39 | SerajewelKS | nimak, the thing i like about KDE is the panel. i can put stuff wherever the heck i want. |
| 09:21.43 | compguymac | haha |
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| 09:21.48 | compguymac | ya, im a weird one |
| 09:21.51 | compguymac | i guess... |
| 09:21.51 | grexk | sera: hhahahah |
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| 09:22.03 | MustangMatt | Has anyone used Courier as a mail server? |
| 09:22.13 | SerajewelKS | nimak, i also prefer the KDE control center over Gnome's windows control panel-ish interface |
| 09:22.14 | MustangMatt | I considering switching from sendmail. |
| 09:22.16 | grexk | nope |
| 09:22.20 | compguymac | no, but ive used usps |
| 09:22.22 | compguymac | :p |
| 09:22.29 | grexk | sera: :( |
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| 09:22.43 | mj | Hmmm, can I ask questions about a LILO boot sequence and initrd ramdisk images here? |
| 09:22.52 | bomb | KDE is superior to Gnome as far as customizing your desktop (if that's what you are into) |
| 09:22.59 | SerajewelKS | !tell mj about ask to ask |
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| 09:23.16 | nimak | SerajewelKS: i just dont like the "look" of kde |
| 09:23.19 | mj | SerajewelKS: yeah yeah |
| 09:23.32 | compguymac | i rarley use xwindows, so its not like i depind on it, unline uoobs thies days, thats all they use and dont learn the command line |
| 09:23.34 | mj | it may be a bit OT that's all |
| 09:23.41 | bomb | mj: just curious, why aren't you using GRUB? |
| 09:23.42 | SerajewelKS | nimak, that's why there's widget styles =P |
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| 09:23.44 | compguymac | noobs |
| 09:23.49 | MJ | bomb foreign system |
| 09:23.50 | kisielk | can someone running cups check for me if they have an /etc/cups/mime.convs and /etc/cups/mime.types file? |
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| 09:23.56 | MJ | bomb: it is a router |
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| 09:24.01 | bomb | NJ: ah ok |
| 09:24.04 | MustangMatt | kisielk: One sec, let me check. |
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| 09:24.23 | MJ | The image is named 'router.gz' but is not gzipped |
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| 09:24.39 | MJ | at least, gunzip refuses to decompress it |
| 09:24.39 | grexk | MJ: read bootdisk howto from tldp.org |
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| 09:24.42 | MustangMatt | kisielk: I have both |
| 09:24.50 | kisielk | MustangMatt: do you mind sending them somehow? |
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| 09:24.53 | MustangMatt | kisield: What me to drop them on pastbin for you? |
| 09:24.54 | kisielk | mine appear to have gone missing |
| 09:25.02 | MJ | I am trying to understand the exact responsibilities of LILO and the kernel |
| 09:25.04 | kisielk | and even when I reinstall teh cupsys package |
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| 09:25.06 | kisielk | they do not reappear |
| 09:25.07 | grexk | cat router.gz | gzip >/tmp/"filename" |
| 09:25.08 | MJ | who decompresses the image? |
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| 09:25.18 | MJ | grexk: trying |
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| 09:25.36 | berzerka | how can i fsck my (mounted) root filesystem? |
| 09:25.42 | compguymac | ok, it all works now :) |
| 09:25.43 | MJ | Not in gzip format |
| 09:25.44 | MustangMatt | kisield: Here's one: http://pastebin.com/360445 |
| 09:26.00 | SerajewelKS | nimak, anyway.. yeah if you like gnome, use it. that's why people use linux.. you're not locked into explorer. =) |
| 09:26.07 | compguymac | are you trying to kill urself berzerka? |
| 09:26.09 | compguymac | lol |
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| 09:26.19 | SerajewelKS | berzerka, you remount it read-only |
| 09:26.20 | grexk | MJ: file file... |
| 09:26.30 | grexk | MJ: file "filename"... |
| 09:26.36 | berzerka | SerajewelKS, thank you. |
| 09:26.38 | MJ | grexk: data |
| 09:26.42 | grexk | what that it says.. |
| 09:26.42 | MJ | already tried that |
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| 09:26.56 | SerajewelKS | berzerka, best way to do that is reboot into single-user mode |
| 09:26.59 | MJ | It's a bit of a puzzler.. |
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| 09:27.10 | MJ | Can't get it to mount even on the router itself. |
| 09:27.19 | _paul | MJ: mv router.gz router.data |
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| 09:27.29 | grexk | then it is compress from other format... |
| 09:27.31 | MJ | _paul: and then? |
| 09:27.39 | kisielk | hm ok |
| 09:27.42 | kisielk | did a purge and reinstall |
| 09:27.45 | kisielk | that seemed to recreate them |
| 09:27.45 | MJ | _paul: that won't tell me more about what's in it. |
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| 09:28.00 | MJ | grexk: I realize that |
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| 09:28.05 | grexk | read documentation/initrd.txt from linux kernel source |
| 09:28.06 | MustangMatt | kisield: Here's the other: http://pastebin.com/360447 |
| 09:28.12 | MJ | but how can a kernel use it as a initrd |
| 09:28.18 | MJ | it has to recognize the format |
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| 09:28.28 | grexk | A lot of explanation MJ |
| 09:28.38 | grexk | MJ: read bootdisk howto from tldp.org |
| 09:28.41 | compguymac | where does kde store its wallpapers? |
| 09:28.46 | compguymac | the dir |
| 09:28.48 | grexk | wait |
| 09:28.54 | grexk | try to remember |
| 09:29.02 | kisielk | been trying for 3 hours to get this damn printer to work |
| 09:29.09 | compguymac | thats the only thing gnome lacks |
| 09:29.15 | grexk | is it /usr/share/wallpaper? |
| 09:29.22 | SerajewelKS | compguymac, /usr/share/wallpapers |
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| 09:29.51 | Yoe | compguymac: gnome doesn't lack wallpapers. |
| 09:30.03 | compguymac | how so |
| 09:30.03 | Yoe | kisielk: how does it not work? |
| 09:30.06 | compguymac | there is only one |
| 09:30.17 | MustangMatt | lol |
| 09:30.23 | Yoe | compguymac: gnome sticks its wallpapers in a separate package |
| 09:30.30 | nimak | you can download more, art.gnome.org |
| 09:30.35 | compguymac | where might that be? |
| 09:30.36 | MustangMatt | You can use the wallpapers from kde if you like them. |
| 09:30.40 | Yoe | to not require those multi-megabyte files on every machine for those that don't want them |
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| 09:30.44 | grexk | nimak: right |
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| 09:31.01 | MustangMatt | Wallpapers... bah! In my dad we stared at black screen with green letters! AND WE LIKED IT! |
| 09:31.12 | Yoe | compguymac: the gnome-art package |
| 09:31.12 | MustangMatt | s/dad/day |
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| 09:31.20 | kisielk | WOOT |
| 09:31.22 | kisielk | finally works! |
| 09:31.23 | nimak | haha |
| 09:31.27 | compguymac | where does gnome store its wallpapers? |
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| 09:31.43 | MustangMatt | compguymac: As Yoe just mentioned, in a separate package. |
| 09:31.44 | Yoe | compguymac: and like people say, you can download stuff from art.gnome.org; you can also just use any file in your home directory as a wallpaper -- they don't need to be in a special folder |
| 09:31.45 | grexk | is it /usr/share/wallpaper? |
| 09:32.02 | grexk | I use to look that in UBUNTU |
| 09:32.11 | compguymac | nope |
| 09:32.14 | Yoe | my current wallpaper is in ~/data/images/wallpapers. |
| 09:32.16 | compguymac | thats where kde stores its |
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| 09:32.28 | Yoe | compguymac: and you think gnome can't look at the same folder? |
| 09:32.31 | nimak | /usr/share/images/desktop-base |
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| 09:32.54 | berzerka | SerajewelKS: if i run: 'mount -o remount,ro /' i get / is busy, what seems kinda logical... |
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| 09:33.02 | compguymac | it can, ide juts like to copy the kde ones to the gnome, so they show up as expamples |
| 09:33.02 | grexk | nimak: is correct I guess |
| 09:33.03 | DrZoot | l |
| 09:33.16 | SerajewelKS | berzerka, right. if you reboot into single-user mode, no services are started, and so you can go that and then fsck |
| 09:33.26 | Yoe | compguymac: what nimak said |
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| 09:33.45 | berzerka | aah, and that can also be done by running 'init 1'? |
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| 09:34.38 | SerajewelKS | berzerka, maybe. i usually just reboot and pass 'single' to the kernel |
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| 09:35.08 | llama32 | anyone seen a 14MB .gif before? |
| 09:35.11 | berzerka | SerajewelKS, okay, thanks a lot. |
| 09:35.34 | grexk | llama32: lolll |
| 09:35.46 | MustangMatt | png for the win. |
| 09:35.56 | llama32 | are there any other animated/video formats than GIF that imagemagick would support without extra utilities? i tried mpeg, but it needs additional apps |
| 09:36.15 | MustangMatt | mng? |
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| 09:36.26 | yang | which passwords get users nobody, mail, news...i have seen someone coming in with those logins |
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| 09:37.10 | compguymac | bots? |
| 09:37.11 | compguymac | lol |
| 09:37.26 | yang | i mean on the machine |
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| 09:37.46 | MustangMatt | llama32: imagemagick does support mng |
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| 09:38.08 | llama32 | 14MB .gif, .gif.gz its 14MB, .gif.bz2 its 14MB, .zip its 14MB |
| 09:38.09 | nimak | MustangMatt: but nothing else does |
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| 09:38.13 | grexk | yang it is required by some packages.. |
| 09:38.30 | grexk | It is also suggested by LSB.com |
| 09:38.35 | MustangMatt | nimak: Firefox doesn't yet? |
| 09:38.44 | nimak | i dont think so |
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| 09:38.52 | yang | grexk: but what are defualt passwords on the installation |
| 09:38.56 | nimak | the alpha might |
| 09:38.57 | compguymac | wow, apt-get is so easy, i dont have to compile anymore, haha |
| 09:39.05 | MustangMatt | You're right. Not without a plugin. |
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| 09:39.11 | Coweater | ff used to but they abandoned support, should be in a near future release |
| 09:39.15 | nimak | yeah, apt-get is awesome |
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| 09:39.34 | MustangMatt | aptitude > apt-get right? |
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| 09:39.50 | grexk | yang: the ones you configure in the installation |
| 09:40.04 | Yoe | compguymac: aptitude and/or synaptic will make it even more easy. |
| 09:40.12 | yang | grexk: i only configure user password and root pass |
| 09:40.25 | grexk | yang: you can also use "base-config" to configure password. |
| 09:40.30 | yang | grexk: and there are 10 users/groups that get "default" passwords |
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| 09:41.07 | grexk | yang: As I said a while ago they are required or used by some packages.. |
| 09:41.17 | MustangMatt | yang: Don't all those users have their shell set to /bin/false |
| 09:41.35 | compguymac | what run level do i change :S: to 2,3,4,5 to make it start in xwindows? |
| 09:41.44 | compguymac | in inittab |
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| 09:41.53 | yang | MustangMatt: no, they have /bin&sh |
| 09:41.59 | yang | MustangMatt: no, they have /bin/sh |
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| 09:42.06 | pabloso_scorphus | Hello. chkrootkit returns a message 'INFECTED (PORTS: 1008)'. lsof tells me that rpc.statd on UDP *:1008, UDP *:1005 and TCP *:1011 (LISTEN). rpc.statd is NFS daemon, right? Why would it be listening on that ports? |
| 09:42.11 | grexk | compguymac: runlevel 5 |
| 09:42.11 | MustangMatt | yang: Do they need a shell? I think all mine are disabled. No reason for those users to login. |
| 09:42.30 | MustangMatt | yang: Nm, you're correct. |
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| 09:42.51 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: using NFS? |
| 09:42.52 | MustangMatt | yang: but in /etc/shadow they don't have a password right? |
| 09:42.53 | yang | so, should i disable them to /bin/false? |
| 09:43.10 | MustangMatt | yang: No, instead just make sure they don't have a password in /etc/shadow |
| 09:43.11 | yang | well this is what I have been asking...do they have some password? |
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| 09:43.15 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: no, used once for learning purposes |
| 09:43.23 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: dpkg -l portmapper |
| 09:43.24 | MustangMatt | yang: No they don't. |
| 09:43.29 | MustangMatt | yang: Or shouldn't. |
| 09:43.37 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: only the line for version |
| 09:43.50 | concept10 | I use this to mount a drive over NFS: sudo mount 192.168.2.31:/mnt/jukebox /media/nfs/ what should I add to fstab mount this?? |
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| 09:44.36 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: No packages found matching portmapper. Same for portmaper |
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| 09:45.03 | MustangMatt | concept10: 192.168.2.31:/mnt/jukebox /media/nfs/ nfs ro 0 0 |
| 09:45.03 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: ps aux | grep -i nfs, but don't paste the output |
| 09:45.34 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: ii portmap 5-9 The RPC portmapper |
| 09:45.34 | concept10 | MustangMatt: thanks, should I change the end to rw for read-write? |
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| 09:45.45 | MustangMatt | concept10: Sure |
| 09:45.45 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: dpkg -l portmap |
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| 09:45.56 | concept10 | MustangMatt: thanks |
| 09:45.57 | glm | concept10: 192.168.2.31:/mnt/jukebox/ /media/nfs/ nfs defaults,noauto,intr 0 0 |
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| 09:46.19 | MustangMatt | glm: What's noauto do again. I can't recall. |
| 09:46.20 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: ok, so NFS is running |
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| 09:46.41 | nimak | MustangMatt: it wont mount when you do mount -a |
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| 09:46.55 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: but ps aux | grep -i nfs returns only the grep itself |
| 09:46.57 | MustangMatt | nimak: Ah okay. |
| 09:47.01 | glm | concept10, man fstab |
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| 09:47.31 | yang | MustangMatt: they come in such form backup:*:415:0:99999:7::: |
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| 09:47.41 | glm | MustangMatt, noauto == is not mounted during reboot |
| 09:47.48 | glm | MustangMatt, or when you do a mount -a |
| 09:47.53 | yang | MustangMatt: instead of password they just press enter and they directly in the box |
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| 09:48.17 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: is the box remote server or your local box? |
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| 09:48.24 | MustangMatt | yang: The * is what you're looking for so you're good. |
| 09:48.34 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: it is a local box |
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| 09:48.41 | grexk | yang: are you in root |
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| 09:48.56 | MustangMatt | yang; Not from ssh they shouldn't be able to. |
| 09:48.57 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: keep a rescue system handy and just remove portmap |
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| 09:49.00 | llama32 | imagemagick kicks arse |
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| 09:49.33 | Oldsparc | Hi all |
| 09:49.39 | compguymac | hi |
| 09:49.46 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: ok, I'll puge it. do you have any idea why it is listening on port 1011? |
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| 09:49.55 | pabloso_scorphus | *purge |
| 09:49.56 | compguymac | hey, i have a sparc in one of my cobalt raq servers, haha |
| 09:49.57 | Oldsparc | is there much happening? |
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| 09:50.32 | Oldsparc | I got these details off the debian site, apparently its handy when you have issues |
| 09:50.33 | llama32 | took me and 3 other ppl an hour (and i mean an hour) on the Macs at school to do what i just did in less that 5 minutes in an xterm with imagemagick |
| 09:50.41 | sunnemer | hi. Long time ago i visited i website where a cgi-script told me, when a package will going from unstable to testing. Has anybody the link for me ? Thanks in advance |
| 09:51.01 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: just remove portmap and see whats going then... |
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| 09:51.16 | grexk | debian reference download that |
| 09:51.17 | bomb | llama32: demand that your school uses linux or you will burn it down. |
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| 09:51.53 | concept10 | how do I change system time? |
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| 09:52.06 | SerajewelKS | !tell m0rtix-BNC about away |
| 09:52.08 | compguymac | log in as root :) |
| 09:52.19 | Oldsparc | anyone know how to resolve a n issue with libapt-inst-libc6.3-5.so.1.0? |
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| 09:52.24 | bomb | compguymac: is your xfree86 fixed? |
| 09:52.26 | concept10 | nevermind |
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| 09:52.35 | grexk | compguymac:right? |
| 09:52.41 | llama32 | bomb: nah, once i sent a bomb threat (well it was worded without "bomb", but similar concept) and now im skating on thin ice... above sharks and pointy things |
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| 09:52.47 | compguymac | ya |
| 09:52.47 | MustangMatt | To change the time, you just enter 'date --set HHMM' ('date --set 0815'). |
| 09:52.48 | MustangMatt | However, this just changes the system time, not the hardware clock. In |
| 09:52.48 | MustangMatt | order to change the hardware clock, you have to sync it to the system time |
| 09:52.48 | MustangMatt | with 'hwclock --systohc'. |
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| 09:53.05 | streuner | concept10: or just install ntpdate |
| 09:53.11 | Oldsparc | seems I am missing that file from my system |
| 09:53.12 | compguymac | trying to get it to stick to 1024x768 so restarted to see if it will stay |
| 09:53.12 | grexk | compguy: OK |
| 09:53.15 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: invokerc.d pormap stop didn't close any port, invokerc.d nfs-common stop closed all three of them |
| 09:53.15 | llama32 | bomb: i once made a petition for them to switch to Windows... how stupid I was... |
| 09:53.20 | compguymac | keeps going to 1600x1200 |
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| 09:53.44 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: update-rc.d -f portmap remove |
| 09:53.45 | grexk | you have to remove the 1600x1200 from your modeline? |
| 09:53.48 | mhall | llama32: for whom to switch to windows |
| 09:53.51 | SerajewelKS | my university is pretty much glued to windows... it sucks |
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| 09:53.56 | compguymac | well see in 30 secs |
| 09:53.59 | llama32 | mhall: my school, they use Macs |
| 09:54.03 | grexk | Sera: bad for you |
| 09:54.04 | MustangMatt | William Jewell? |
| 09:54.04 | concept10 | streuner: thanks |
| 09:54.20 | nimak | my school is apple-obcessed |
| 09:54.29 | mhall | llama32: ah the irony of it all |
| 09:54.31 | SerajewelKS | grexk, i've managed to work around it for the most part |
| 09:54.36 | mhall | shit, i'm really drunk right now |
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| 09:54.50 | grexk | sera: Lol |
| 09:54.58 | SerajewelKS | nimak, OS X is better than windows. it's not linux, but still. |
| 09:55.05 | llama32 | my school doesnt know what the difference between a PC or a Mac is, and have never heard the word Unix, despite the fact that they are all inadvertantly running it |
| 09:55.06 | grexk | mhall: better get sleep |
| 09:55.07 | compguymac | nope, it still keeps going to 1600x1200, shouldnt have to take it out |
| 09:55.11 | compguymac | it should remember my settings |
| 09:55.23 | SerajewelKS | llama32, they are not running unix. they are running mach and bsd. |
| 09:55.25 | grexk | nimaK: have you heard about mac on x86 |
| 09:55.33 | compguymac | maybe have to do it as root? |
| 09:55.34 | grexk | darwin project I mean |
| 09:55.38 | Oldsparc | aparently OS 10 is based on linux |
| 09:55.42 | compguymac | yes |
| 09:55.43 | bomb | compguymac: what do you mean, you can't switch to the other resolutions that you selected when you reconfigured xfree86? |
| 09:55.47 | SerajewelKS | Oldsparc, it's based on mach and bsd |
| 09:55.49 | compguymac | no, i can |
| 09:55.52 | grexk | Oldsparc: really |
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| 09:55.58 | SerajewelKS | for crying out loud, how far have these mythx gone |
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| 09:56.05 | MustangMatt | oldsparc: Bsd |
| 09:56.06 | SerajewelKS | myths* |
| 09:56.08 | compguymac | but i want it at 1024x768 and when i log out and log back in, it goes back |
| 09:56.21 | mhall | grexk: Yeah, then homework. woot |
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| 09:56.27 | grexk | compguy:you have to remove the 1600x1200 from your modeline? |
| 09:56.32 | Oldsparc | so - is this the place to come for help? |
| 09:56.35 | nimak | grexk: i have heard about apple switching to x86, but they say they will have mechanisms to prevent use on non-apple hardware |
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| 09:56.41 | SerajewelKS | Oldsparc, with debian, yes |
| 09:56.42 | mhall | I finished about 4/5 shots of 90 proof whiskey. |
| 09:56.44 | mhall | hahaha |
| 09:56.50 | compguymac | thats kinda stupid if i have to, but i guess |
| 09:56.51 | Oldsparc | now your talking |
| 09:56.54 | SerajewelKS | mhall, better not smoke for a few hours |
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| 09:57.05 | compguymac | ill do it tomorrow, im gonna sleep, im tired as hell |
| 09:57.05 | grexk | nimak: ah |
| 09:57.07 | mhall | SerajewelKS: I don't anyways because I have asthma. |
| 09:57.13 | mhall | SerajewelKS: So I drink instead. |
| 09:57.18 | compguymac | ill see you all tomorrow and thankyou for everyone that helped me |
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| 09:57.27 | grexk | bye... |
| 09:57.29 | llama32 | id quite like the school using Macs, if the teachers didnt watch over my shoulder when they saw me using the terminal, and if they had GCC and some other stuff |
| 09:57.32 | Oldsparc | I recently upgraded an old sparc 4 with the new 2.6.21 kernel and sarge |
| 09:57.51 | mhall | llama32: My school is a bunch of Microsoft addicts. |
| 09:57.51 | SerajewelKS | llama32, i almost got kicked out of a library for using putty |
| 09:58.00 | nimak | hahahahha |
| 09:58.04 | MustangMatt | haXXor! |
| 09:58.04 | mhall | llama32: So I install PuTTY and connect to my Sun box. |
| 09:58.05 | llama32 | SerajewelKS: hehehe |
| 09:58.06 | nimak | what were you doing |
| 09:58.09 | Oldsparc | all was running fine (believe it or not) and then I started getting a error when trying to upgrade |
| 09:58.10 | SerajewelKS | llama32, then i almost got kicked out of a lab for using vnc |
| 09:58.18 | llama32 | heh |
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| 09:58.28 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: all links removed. why should it be removed? could you please explain it? |
| 09:58.54 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: well, if you don't them...? |
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| 09:59.02 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: need* |
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| 09:59.20 | SerajewelKS | if i had used the black-on-white theme in putty maybe the people would've thought i was using word =P |
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| 09:59.28 | mhall | SerajewelKS: what the hell was their problem? |
| 09:59.31 | streuner | pabloso_scorphus: It doesn't hurd (TM) ;-) |
| 09:59.36 | Oldsparc | seems there is a porblem with libapt-inst-libbc6.3-5.so.1.0 |
| 09:59.50 | SerajewelKS | mhall, when IT people don't recognize something, they get scared |
| 09:59.55 | streuner | Oldsparc: unstable? |
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| 10:00.10 | Oldsparc | nope - running sarge |
| 10:00.12 | nimak | im gonna get my school to try edubuntu |
| 10:00.13 | mhall | SerajewelKS: true that |
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| 10:00.30 | MustangMatt | nimak: Doesn't that come out like next week? Sounds like a cool project |
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| 10:00.42 | mhall | SerajewelKS: I've had that problem but mine at least understand PuTTY even if they don't know what I'm doing to the box on the other end. |
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| 10:00.46 | DarthSith | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.49 | SerajewelKS | mhall, so to get back at them i use my deep freeze disabler boot disk and screw with their setup |
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| 10:00.51 | nimak | it gets released in october |
| 10:00.56 | streuner | Oldsparc: /msg dpkg paste and show us the complete error |
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| 10:01.34 | SerajewelKS | mhall, the people in the lab knew what vnc was, they just didn't know it was there (running it full-screen) |
| 10:01.35 | mhall | SerajewelKS: deep freeze disabler boot disk? |
| 10:01.42 | SerajewelKS | mhall, yesh |
| 10:01.44 | mhall | SerajewelKS: lol morons |
| 10:01.44 | Oldsparc | apt-extracttemplates: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-inst-libc6.3-5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 10:01.45 | Oldsparc | dpkg: failed in buffer_read(fd): copy info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available': Input/output error |
| 10:01.45 | Oldsparc | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 10:01.48 | MustangMatt | I need to relearn how to export the display from ubuntu to Windows/Cygwin. |
| 10:01.50 | mhall | SerajewelKS: wtf can that disk do? |
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| 10:01.55 | berzerka | solved my problem with xlibmesa-gl. there is something broken with the 'diversions' of the fglrx or nvidia-glx package. if you get the same error (unable to create libGL.so no such file or directory), remove the lines containing libGL.. from /var/lib/dpkg/diversions. thanks for your help. |
| 10:01.57 | SerajewelKS | mhall, disable Deep Freeze =P |
| 10:02.17 | streuner | !tell Oldsparc about paste |
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| 10:02.27 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: maybe I'll need it someday... But I would like to understand what's going on here, what caused it to be listening on those ports |
| 10:02.39 | Oldsparc | I had the issue recently but that was just a missing symlink ... I can't find this on the system |
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| 10:03.15 | streuner | Oldsparc: show us your sources.list --> http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 10:03.32 | DarthSith | has anyone installed kde 3.4 on sarge? |
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| 10:03.40 | mhall | SerajewelKS: what's deep freeze? a windows locking app? |
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| 10:04.37 | MJ | haHA |
| 10:04.44 | Coweater | mhall: freezes drives on windows, effectively all changes are lost after reboot |
| 10:04.45 | SerajewelKS | mhall, it's a virtual hard disk driver that sits between windows and the real disk driver. it's a journalling disk that never commits. nothing is ever physically written to disk, so a reboot restores everything, even if fdisk was run while the system was frozen -- because it never made it to the disk. |
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| 10:04.49 | MJ | the bloody gzip file has two bites prepended |
| 10:05.03 | streuner | DarthSith: /j #debian-kde |
| 10:05.06 | MJ | Okay; best way to remove 2 bytes from the start of a file |
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| 10:05.26 | pirre | MJ: dd? |
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| 10:05.29 | MJ | points given if I can apply it to a pipe |
| 10:05.33 | SerajewelKS | mhall, i downloaded a demo, found the data file, did some testing on it and found the location of the freeze/thaw switch, and made a linux boot disk that toggles it. |
| 10:05.39 | MJ | pirre: thanks |
| 10:05.45 | Oldsparc | ok chaps/chapettes ... I haven't used irc in donkeys ... so bear with me regarding the flood/paste stuff |
| 10:06.07 | MustangMatt | oldsparc; You can always use pastebin.com |
| 10:06.08 | green_earz | SerajewelKS: " when IT people don't recognize something, they get scared " nice one, i having that same problem with getting any one to try out sip voip. I would have thought that IT peaple would jump at it but not yet ! |
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| 10:06.33 | mhall | SerajewelKS: what a broken solution to an unnecessary problem |
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| 10:06.46 | SerajewelKS | mhall, actually it works very well |
| 10:06.47 | MJ | WOOT |
| 10:06.50 | MJ | thanks |
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| 10:07.11 | Oldsparc | anyway ... regarding source.list, whet you looking for? Its all sarge but I do see non-us in there which may not be applicabe now with sarge |
| 10:07.15 | mhall | I worked 8 months in Seattle, Washington and people were so hamstrung by the Microsoft way of thinking that they had a hard time finding UNIX guys. |
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| 10:07.22 | mhall | So they recruited me from California. |
| 10:07.24 | mhall | lol |
| 10:07.29 | grexk | any GOOD book/howto on writing init scripts.... |
| 10:07.33 | pabloso_scorphus | streuner: Many thanks for the help so far! think I'll keep on searching =) btw, rpc.statd keeps listening now on TCP 741. |
| 10:07.38 | SerajewelKS | mhall, deep freeze is a very well-designed and useful tool, especially for kiosks |
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| 10:07.46 | mhall | grexk: Someplace there is a skeleton init script. |
| 10:07.57 | mhall | SerajewelKS: But, that's now how the problem should be solved. |
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| 10:08.12 | grexk | mhall: what do u mean |
| 10:08.14 | mhall | SerajewelKS: The problem should be solved by actually fixing the Windows security model. |
| 10:08.24 | SerajewelKS | mhall, yeah... that's going to happen soon |
| 10:08.28 | mhall | grexk: What do I mean wrt which statement? |
| 10:08.29 | pirre | grexk: how about looking at an existing one and use it as an example? |
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| 10:08.31 | mhall | SerajewelKS: One hopes! |
| 10:08.44 | SerajewelKS | mhall, nother way to put it is that deep freeze is pretty much like running qemu with -snapshot |
| 10:08.51 | grexk | mhall: skeleton? |
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| 10:08.57 | mhall | SerajewelKS: No I understand it mentally. |
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| 10:09.07 | SerajewelKS | mhall, which i have found very useful even when security is not a problem |
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| 10:09.19 | grexk | pirre: theres alot of them.... |
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| 10:09.30 | mhall | grexk: A skeleton is the UNIX term for a basic or demo version of a config file that either a) does the very basics or b) is pretty much commented out. |
| 10:09.40 | SerajewelKS | mhall, i used to use deep freeze on my windows setup as an extra guard against spyware and viruses. it's cool to experiment with stuff when you know you just have to reboot to fix anything you broke. |
| 10:09.41 | pirre | grexk: so look at a simple one? |
| 10:09.45 | grexk | mhall: ah |
| 10:09.48 | mhall | grexk: So then you take the skeleton and put on the other pieces you need to make it do the job. |
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| 10:10.04 | MustangMatt | What is the main reason Microsoft can't switch to a unix-like security model? Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult of a switch. |
| 10:10.10 | pirre | grexk: /etc/init.d/sudo is for example only 23 lines long |
| 10:10.15 | MustangMatt | Is it because they run the graphical interface in kernel memory? |
| 10:10.20 | mhall | MustangMatt: backwards compatibility |
| 10:10.22 | SerajewelKS | MustangMatt, because that would give unix credit |
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| 10:10.48 | mhall | MustangMatt: Windows software apps break a lot of rules, and when they break MS gets blamed even if it's not their app. |
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| 10:11.17 | mhall | MustangMatt: It's the same reason Solaris has 10,000 bin directories with almost-the-same-but-different versions of binaries in them. |
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| 10:11.54 | mhall | MustangMatt: They are so paranoid about updates or fixes that they will just put them someplace else and make your sorry ass go hunt for the latest / working copies you really want. |
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| 10:12.34 | mhall | MustangMatt: because too much production code depends on old broken behaviors |
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| 10:13.22 | MustangMatt | mhall: It seems like they could redo Windows security correctly and write applications to try to appease old broken behavior just to the point of stopping it from doing "Very bad things" TM |
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| 10:13.55 | MustangMatt | mhall: I mean as soon as they switched their model, most major vendors would produce new versions of their apps. |
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| 10:14.50 | mhall | MustangMatt: I'm not so sure it's that easy when you have hundreds of millions of customers incapable of compiling things from the source. |
| 10:14.58 | wireddd | MustangMatt, I don't think microsoft wants to spend enough money to put out a decent product |
| 10:15.57 | mhall | MustangMatt: Then again, that's why I don't use their crap anyways. |
| 10:15.57 | mhall | wireddd: I don't think it's a problem money can solve. |
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| 10:15.57 | mhall | I think it's a function of their customers' attitudes about computers and technology. |
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| 10:16.08 | MustangMatt | From a Microsoft perspective (licenses aside) couldn't they make a Windows X-window manager? |
| 10:16.10 | chipmunk | why i cnt login in the ubuntu channel? |
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| 10:16.26 | nimak | i think its a matter of preferance, if the customer has the windows attitude, then perhaps windows is the os for them |
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| 10:16.32 | Oldsparc | all ... after using the url you gave me regarding pasting, do I just give you the resulting url so you can have a gadgers? |
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| 10:16.38 | MustangMatt | chipmunk: You have to be identified now. I had this problem with #java the other day but I can't remember how to register. |
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| 10:16.54 | MustangMatt | Oldsparc: Yes. |
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| 10:17.07 | chipmunk | i see. so what shall i do? can i enter it again to them? what shall i do? |
| 10:17.08 | Oldsparc | here you go then ... http://channels.debian.net/paste/693 |
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| 10:17.48 | MustangMatt | Can anyone help chipmunk with the commands to register to get into some of the IRC channels? I can't remember them. |
| 10:17.59 | mhall | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.04 | MustangMatt | Yah that's it. thanks. |
| 10:18.10 | chipmunk | cos i need to login there due to i need help about my ubuntu here =( |
| 10:18.16 | chipmunk | kk |
| 10:18.17 | chipmunk | il try |
| 10:18.26 | chipmunk | thanks friends |
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| 10:19.39 | Oldsparc | as I was saying, I had a similar issue recently but it was just a missing symlink |
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| 10:19.45 | llama32 | mmm... satay kebab |
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| 10:20.06 | grexk | how about a good howto/book on installing linux from source code. Should not be LFS. |
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| 10:20.36 | grexk | I just love reading some sort of this things |
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| 10:20.42 | nimak | the gentoo handbook? |
| 10:20.50 | ma3x | how do i clear the boot loader on /dev/hda4? |
| 10:20.50 | SerajewelKS | haha |
| 10:20.53 | soldiar | http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=48251 <- that's my problem, I can't install wine @ my debian-sarge-amd64-box. |
| 10:21.08 | grexk | nimak: thanks... |
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| 10:21.31 | grexk | nimak: how long did you install gentoo |
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| 10:22.20 | nimak | i tried twice, too hard, but thenagain, i didnt have much linux skill back then |
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| 10:22.38 | ma3x | hallooooooooooooooooo |
| 10:22.40 | grexk | me either LFS... |
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| 10:23.19 | nimak | why channel limits? |
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| 10:23.37 | nimak | so some bot cant log in a million times in a minute? |
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| 10:24.25 | MustangMatt | ma3x: Is it your only bootloader? |
| 10:24.36 | ma3x | MustangMatt, no |
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| 10:24.42 | ma3x | MustangMatt, i have 2 |
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| 10:25.01 | ma3x | how do i mount freebsd partition? |
| 10:25.03 | ma3x | what type |
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| 10:25.31 | bomb | ma3x: ufs |
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| 10:25.47 | ma3x | bomb: it says wrong fs |
| 10:25.49 | grexk | nimak: how can I download an archive of the documentation? |
| 10:25.52 | soldiar | http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=48251 <- that's my problem, i can't install wine under my amd64 box, how to fix this problem? |
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| 10:26.12 | ma3x | bomb, ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write |
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| 10:26.30 | nimak | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml |
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| 10:26.41 | MustangMatt | soldiar: apt-get install wine? |
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| 10:27.17 | soldiar | mustangmatt: doesn't work cuz... The package wine has no amd64-installation-candidate. |
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| 10:27.30 | bomb | ma3x: you might need a module for ufs filesystems |
| 10:27.36 | DarthSith | dpkg kde |
| 10:27.37 | dpkg | kde is probably a desktop enviroment based on the Qt toolkit. The latest stable release appears to be 3.4.1. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it to #debian-kde |
| 10:27.39 | Oldsparc | had a look around, seems it is a broken symlink ... http://channels.debian.net/paste/694. |
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| 10:27.41 | MustangMatt | soldair: hrmm.. Not sure. I can't read german either. |
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| 10:27.46 | DarthSith | dpkg kde 3.4 |
| 10:27.46 | dpkg | i heard kde3.4 is being uploaded to sid, see http://wiki.debian.net/?Kde34 for details. not supported on any Debian channels yet, *particularly* not #debian. if you still want to ask about it, ask #debian-kde |
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| 10:27.58 | grexk | nimak: I rather webreap it... |
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| 10:28.10 | bomb | ma3x: no idea, i haven't booted freebsd and tried that |
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| 10:31.29 | MustangMatt | I've finally given java the time of day and I really like it. |
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| 10:31.32 | Oldsparc | so ... anyone got any ideas? |
| 10:31.40 | nimak | grexk: what do you mean? |
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| 10:33.27 | outlaw84 | I am having some problems with apt when I run dist-upgrade its says that some packages will be skiped one of these is x-window-system-core if I specifically state that I wanto reinstall just that package it say that lots of packages will be deleted . So what should I do? |
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| 10:34.50 | MustangMatt | outlaw84: Are you going from woody to sarge? |
| 10:34.58 | outlaw84 | no |
| 10:35.02 | outlaw84 | I got sarge |
| 10:35.13 | MustangMatt | Are you going to sid? |
| 10:35.37 | outlaw84 | aren't those the same? |
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| 10:36.06 | outlaw84 | I installed with Sarhe net install and I am downloading packages testing |
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| 10:36.32 | MustangMatt | outlaw84: Any reason to switch to testing? |
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| 10:36.57 | outlaw84 | I have been using testing for like 2-3 mounts... I am not switching to anything |
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| 10:37.14 | outlaw84 | just doing the regular dist-upgrade |
| 10:37.22 | MustangMatt | testing used to = sarge but now stable = sarge. |
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| 10:37.52 | MustangMatt | So you've been using sarge. Make sure /etc/apt/sourcec.list points to sarge and do aptitude update;aptitude upgrade |
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| 10:38.18 | MustangMatt | rather /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:38.52 | Oldsparc | does anyone have any ideas with the messages I pasted? |
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| 10:40.50 | me_here | MustangMatt: what do you mean with "points to sarge" ? |
| 10:40.52 | outlaw84 | MustangMatt: that is what I was doing... but had problems :/ |
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| 10:41.00 | streuner | Oldsparc: which distro do you use? |
| 10:41.25 | Oldsparc | running sarge and have been since it went stable |
| 10:41.35 | streuner | Oldsparc: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 10:41.36 | MustangMatt | me_here: Well it sounds like he was referencing testing in his sources.list but testing is no longer sarge. |
| 10:41.42 | wireddd | so if testing != sarge now, what is testing called? |
| 10:41.50 | streuner | etch |
| 10:41.52 | Oldsparc | all was fine until I checked for packages which required an upgrade |
| 10:41.53 | bomb | outlaw84: you do realize that testing now has xorg, so upgrading from sarge will of course remove and replace lots of X related packages |
| 10:41.59 | me_here | MustangMatt: what is testing then ?? |
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| 10:42.06 | MustangMatt | testing = sid I believe. |
| 10:42.09 | MustangMatt | Or no? |
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| 10:42.16 | streuner | testing=etch |
| 10:42.18 | bomb | testing is not sid |
| 10:42.18 | Oldsparc | I think testing is now etch |
| 10:42.21 | streuner | unstable=sid |
| 10:42.24 | outlaw84 | I am not switching from or to anything |
| 10:42.27 | MustangMatt | stable=sarge is all I know. |
| 10:42.29 | streuner | stable=sarge |
| 10:42.29 | CaT[tm] | sid is always unstable. |
| 10:42.31 | DrZoot | is there some way to change the physical size of a drive in the superblock? fsck keeps saying that the superblock thinks the drive is a different size to what it really is |
| 10:42.32 | Oldsparc | sid is always unstable ... if I remember rightly |
| 10:42.41 | CaT[tm] | sid will never not be unstable |
| 10:42.43 | MustangMatt | outlaw84: does your /etc/apt/sources.list point to testing or does it point to sarge? |
| 10:42.47 | CaT[tm] | sid's... mad. |
| 10:42.50 | bomb | outlaw84: wtf do you mean you aren't switching, apt-get dist-upgrade is going to install etch. |
| 10:42.55 | streuner | Oldsparc: can you tell use the output? |
| 10:42.58 | me_here | MustangMatt: im referencing tesing so im on etch ? |
| 10:42.58 | outlaw84 | deb ftp://ftp.du.se/debian/ testing main |
| 10:42.59 | outlaw84 | deb ftp://ftp.du.se/debian/ testing contrib |
| 10:43.00 | wireddd | ok so... unstable=sid, testing=etch, stable=sarge |
| 10:43.07 | streuner | Oldsparc: s/use/us/ |
| 10:43.10 | me_here | ah |
| 10:43.14 | valdyn | DrZoot: superblock is noting to do with disk size, probably filesystem size |
| 10:43.17 | MustangMatt | me_here: Sounds like it. |
| 10:43.25 | MustangMatt | outlaw84: That's pointing to etch then. |
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| 10:43.39 | MustangMatt | outlaw84: change testing to sarge to stay on sarge. |
| 10:43.44 | hiux | root@zishel:~# apt-get install stardict |
| 10:43.55 | hiux | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 10:43.55 | hiux | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.55 | hiux | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.55 | hiux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:43.58 | CaT[tm] | must: might be a bit late now. |
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| 10:44.12 | Oldsparc | streuner: run that past me again please |
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| 10:44.21 | MustangMatt | Cat[tm]: true. |
| 10:44.25 | hiux | how to fix it? |
| 10:44.32 | streuner | Oldsparc: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 10:44.39 | streuner | Oldsparc: that's enough |
| 10:44.48 | MustangMatt | hiux: try aptitude install stardict and see if it does any better. |
| 10:45.02 | hiux | ok |
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| 10:45.15 | outlaw84 | why do I need to change in order to "stay"? I have had it like that for 2-3 mounths now |
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| 10:45.22 | hiux | the same error |
| 10:45.24 | DrZoot | valdyn: the superblock does however contain what it thinks is the physical size of the drive in blocks, this for some reason differs from what the partition table is saying is the size of the drive, i want to change the size thats in the superblock or replace the superblock or whatever |
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| 10:45.42 | nimak | well, its nearlt 7, im going to sleep |
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| 10:45.47 | nimak | good night |
| 10:45.47 | MustangMatt | outlaw84: Yes you've been using it for months but "it" changed on you. sarge moved from testing to stable and etch moved to testing. |
| 10:45.49 | Oldsparc | streuner: dpkg-query: failed in buffer_read(fd): copy info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available': Input/output error |
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| 10:46.03 | MustangMatt | outlaw84: Since you've already upgraded, I'm not sure how gracefully you can move back to sarge. |
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| 10:46.18 | bomb | MustangMatt: you can't downgrade. |
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| 10:46.36 | outlaw84 | MustangMatt: Ah okej.. that explains why there has been so much to download recently |
| 10:46.40 | streuner | Oldsparc: paste the whole output of your sources.list into #flood |
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| 10:47.05 | MustangMatt | hiux: Can you aptitude install libgnome-keyring0? |
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| 10:47.34 | hiux | let me try |
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| 10:47.54 | Oldsparc | can you tell what you are looking for streuner? As I said before, I do have some non-US lines which may not be applicable, apart from that though, all looks ok |
| 10:48.01 | hiux | libgnome-keyring0: Depends: gnome-keyring (= 0.4.4-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable |
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| 10:48.15 | MustangMatt | huix: Are you running ubuntu? |
| 10:48.19 | Py | hello! |
| 10:48.26 | hiux | i just make a mistake to upgrade to ubuntu |
| 10:48.28 | me_here | i removed hal and udev last night, cause i couldn't install alsa-base or alsa-utils with them |
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| 10:48.38 | hiux | i 'm using debian sarge |
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| 10:48.43 | MustangMatt | hiux: Yikes. |
| 10:48.44 | Py | what should I dpkg-reconfigure to change keyboard layout and timezone of a sarge box? |
| 10:48.56 | hiux | but upgrade to ubuntu |
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| 10:49.05 | MustangMatt | hiux: My guess is that there's no graceful recovery from that situation. |
| 10:49.07 | outlaw84 | Py: run base-config |
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| 10:49.29 | Oldsparc | streuner: http://channels.debian.net/paste/695 |
| 10:49.42 | hiux | maybe there miss a source |
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| 10:50.52 | hiux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:51.47 | Py | outlaw84: thx, it does the trick for the timezone, but what about the keyboard layout? |
| 10:52.07 | MustangMatt | hiux: The problem is ubuntu is using a lot of newer packages than sarge does. You might try switching to etch and see if it does any better. |
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| 10:52.39 | hiux | how can i go back to sarge? |
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| 10:52.51 | hiux | thank you mustangmatt first |
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| 10:53.17 | bomb | hiux: reinstall |
| 10:53.18 | MustangMatt | hiux: I'm not sure. Is reinstallation out of the question? |
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| 10:53.41 | MustangMatt | hiux: Otherwise the best thing I could think to do would be to remove all packages that give you fits and reinstall. |
| 10:53.42 | hiux | yeah . i just install it this afternoon |
| 10:53.42 | me_here | hiux: remove all testing and unstable references in /etc/apt/sources.list and do an dist-upgrade |
| 10:53.42 | bomb | Py: you can change your keyboard layout by reconfiguring X |
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| 10:54.06 | dawg | hiux, downgrading from one version of debian to another is not even possible.. trying to downgrade from ubuntu, well that's crazy talk |
| 10:54.10 | wireddd | ok so I have been using testing should I upgrade x? |
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| 10:54.20 | Langly1 | grr Im blowing my syntax, please correct this "apt-get install kernel-source-$(`uname -r)" where am I going wrong |
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| 10:54.24 | hiux | yes i will do it |
| 10:54.31 | MustangMatt | The end quote |
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| 10:54.34 | MustangMatt | ' |
| 10:54.43 | Langly1 | ah, thx |
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| 10:54.52 | Py | bomb: oh sorry, I did forget to mention it was the console setting that I would like to reconfigure. I know where to find it for X. |
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| 10:55.04 | MustangMatt | Langly1: Actually it should be ` |
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| 10:55.11 | bomb | Py: forget what i said then =x |
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| 10:55.39 | MustangMatt | langly1: aptitude install kernel-source-`uname -r` |
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| 10:56.01 | dawg | py, dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
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| 10:56.31 | hiux | i have changed my mind. i give to use stardict |
| 10:56.38 | hiux | give up |
| 10:56.40 | Langly1 | MustangMatt I hate aptitue with a passion |
| 10:56.47 | Langly1 | I just use apt-get and dpkg |
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| 10:56.53 | Langly1 | dont touch the bloody bastard |
| 10:56.55 | MustangMatt | Langly1: Whatever works best for you. |
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| 10:57.09 | hiux | but is there any other dict for chinese? |
| 10:57.22 | me_here | Langly1: what's the problem with aptitude, i use it the whole day ! |
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| 10:57.39 | MustangMatt | aptitude should be superior to apt-get in every way I think. |
| 10:57.43 | dawg | aptitude is awse |
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| 10:57.57 | dawg | hiux, you've royally screwed your install at this point, you really should consider reinstalling |
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| 10:58.32 | hiux | it's a big project. i dont want to do it |
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| 10:59.02 | hiux | i have reinstall my system for several time these day |
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| 10:59.18 | MustangMatt | I am a pro sarge installer. I can do it in like 10 minutes blind folded :) |
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| 10:59.42 | MustangMatt | I had to write an article on installing asterisk on sarge step-by-step and had a lot of time to practice installing sarge. heh. |
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| 11:00.17 | streuner | Oldsparc: you need only two lines: 1) deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ sarge main |
| 11:00.19 | Py | dawg: thanks a lot |
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| 11:00.28 | me_here | how do i update modules.conf ? |
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| 11:00.46 | MustangMatt | me_here: Manually edit it? |
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| 11:00.50 | streuner | Oldsparc: 2) deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main |
| 11:01.06 | me_here | MustangMatt: nope, i meant through some utility |
| 11:01.10 | streuner | Oldsparc: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt-get update' |
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| 11:01.15 | MustangMatt | me_here: What are you trying to add to it? |
| 11:01.16 | me_here | modutils ? |
| 11:01.17 | dawg | hiux, that might be the case but you no longer have a functional Debian system, so if you want to wade through the mess you've made you're more than welcome :) |
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| 11:01.32 | Oldsparc | I see what you mean struener, do you think that will make a difference because the non-US lines will be missing? |
| 11:01.49 | MustangMatt | hiux: You'll be better off in the long run if you reinstall. Otherwise you'll have headache after headache. |
| 11:01.51 | streuner | Oldsparc: non-US is gone, see /topic |
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| 11:02.05 | hiux | dawg you are right |
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| 11:02.27 | me_here | MustangMatt: i install some software wich will alter it, but i already have some modules loaded which should get unloaded first, else they will not work |
| 11:02.31 | Langly1 | I finaly got my damn ti acx100 chipset wifi card working on linux |
| 11:02.31 | Oldsparc | yep, I thought there was little point in having that after sarge was released |
| 11:02.43 | streuner | Oldsparc: no |
| 11:02.45 | Oldsparc | seemed to work with it in ... or has until recently |
| 11:02.50 | Langly1 | and its an odd card too, the windows drivers from the website of the company dont actualy work on windows |
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| 11:02.53 | Langly1 | missing file crap |
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| 11:02.59 | Langly1 | so it was a real task |
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| 11:03.16 | MustangMatt | langly1: lol |
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| 11:03.36 | Langly1 | another companys drivers for the same chipset work perfectly |
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| 11:03.42 | streuner | Langly1: feel free to edit factoid 'acx100', please. |
| 11:03.53 | streuner | !acx100 |
| 11:03.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, acx100 is wireless internet card chipset that is a royal pain to install, but if you go to http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php you will be able to have your card up and running in an hour (hopefully). |
| 11:03.54 | Langly1 | actualy that companys drivers work for 3 differnt acx100 cards so far |
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| 11:04.01 | Langly1 | which is rather neat |
| 11:04.13 | hiux | thank you mustangmatt and dawg. i make my mind to reinstall my system |
| 11:04.17 | Oldsparc | streuner: still get the same error with the other lines commented out of source.list |
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| 11:04.27 | hiux | forgive my bad english |
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| 11:04.37 | streuner | Oldsparc: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 11:04.40 | Langly1 | the vigor520 drivers with ndiswrapper work perfectly for most acx100 cards |
| 11:04.50 | hiux | god bless me |
| 11:04.51 | streuner | Oldsparc: run that, and show us the output |
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| 11:05.50 | Langly1 | that houseofcraig.net got me yelled at in here earlyer |
| 11:06.01 | Langly1 | I read this |
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| 11:06.02 | Langly1 | Next, verify the presence of the correct version of the kernel source, type: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include/linux/version.h those ` characters around uname -r are not single-quotes the key for them on my keyboard is the lower-case of the tilde (~) character to the left of the numeric 1 key. Successful output looks like this: |
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| 11:06.14 | me_here | have to restart |
| 11:06.15 | Langly1 | and asked how to get the /build path, because i didnt have it |
| 11:06.31 | Langly1 | and got yelled at for using it, cause its not debain instrctions lol |
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| 11:06.38 | Langly1 | I couldnt get tthat built |
| 11:06.44 | Oldsparc | struener: still get the same error with that too ... using a capital 'L' gives me a blank line |
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| 11:08.00 | Langly1 | where should I submit that ndiswrapper acx100 info |
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| 11:08.15 | Langly1 | a networkeverywhere card that doesnt even work on windows will work with it even |
| 11:08.18 | Langly1 | damn sweet |
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| 11:08.41 | Langly1 | as will a odd card i pulled from inside a dead d-link router, no d-link driver would run |
| 11:08.44 | Langly1 | even on window |
| 11:08.45 | Langly1 | s |
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| 11:09.04 | Langly1 | but that vigor driver, seems to be native to the chipset with no odd extra stuff |
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| 11:12.58 | streuner | Oldsparc: http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/ |
| 11:13.27 | streuner | Oldsparc: subscribe to Mailing-List and describe that again there |
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| 11:14.19 | Oldsparc | which mailing list? I subscribe to the sparc one, is there a specific one you are thinking of? |
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| 11:14.47 | streuner | Oldsparc: http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/ |
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| 11:15.03 | Oldsparc | cheers streuner |
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| 11:16.03 | streuner | Oldsparc: describe that with all infos i asked you, sources.list, libc6 version, kernel-version and the error you got |
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| 11:17.05 | Oldsparc | yep, I thought perhaps someone here may have known or had a similar error |
| 11:17.12 | streuner | Oldsparc: wait |
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| 11:17.23 | Oldsparc | I used the sparc one quite a bit when upgrading the kernel or the kernel team |
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| 11:17.31 | Oldsparc | cheers again for having a look though |
| 11:17.32 | streuner | Oldsparc: well, i found some bugs at 2002.... |
| 11:17.34 | Oldsparc | have a good one |
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| 11:17.50 | streuner | Oldsparc: that was a bug in 2002 |
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| 11:18.19 | Oldsparc | ok, perhaps they re-introduced the feature when bringing sarge into stable :-) |
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| 11:18.32 | streuner | Oldsparc: wait |
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| 11:18.42 | Oldsparc | ok |
| 11:18.42 | streuner | Oldsparc: do you have apt-utils installed? |
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| 11:19.59 | streuner | Oldsparc: i give up on that one, just use the ML and describe the problem |
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| 11:21.27 | Oldsparc | struener: I think so, although apt-cache show doesn't say installed |
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| 11:22.30 | streuner | Oldsparc: ls -l /usr/lib/libapt-inst-libc6.3-5.so.1.0 |
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| 11:22.59 | saloxin | what magic do I have to do to get /dev/raw1394 under udev? |
| 11:23.13 | SquareRt | a quick question... can UDP payloads fragment? |
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| 11:23.23 | syntaxx | whats a good cd burner for x? |
| 11:23.23 | rixth | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=new+orleans&ll=30.018989,-90.121504&spn=0.006292,0.010131&t=e&hl=en Off topic but interesting to some. Thats one big break |
| 11:23.23 | Oldsparc | I know its not there, if you have a look at http://channels.debian.net/paste/694 you will see some info |
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| 11:23.43 | ircdevil | syntaxx: xcdroast |
| 11:23.50 | syntaxx | thanks |
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| 11:24.11 | MustangMatt | rixth: That's impressive that they already have updated imagery |
| 11:24.11 | streuner | Oldsparc: oh, your system crashed? |
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| 11:24.31 | Oldsparc | no ... seems to have been running fine |
| 11:24.36 | rixth | MustangMatt, if you zoom out, you'll see they only have a small section updated, but still, good effort! |
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| 11:24.53 | MustangMatt | rixth: What's the town on the other side that's not flooded? |
| 11:25.03 | me_here | hey streamtuner and xmms work now as expected |
| 11:25.05 | rixth | MustangMatt, New Orleans! |
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| 11:25.32 | MustangMatt | rixth: I don't understand... Only half of the town got flooded? |
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| 11:26.19 | rixth | MustangMatt, http://maps.google.com/maps?q=new+orleans&ll=29.988839,-90.093727&spn=0.201416,0.324200&t=e&hl=en That image shows where got flooded and where didn't |
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| 11:26.55 | MustangMatt | rixth: But that's all new orleans? |
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| 11:27.02 | rixth | MustangMatt, yes |
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| 11:27.37 | MustangMatt | rixth: I didn't realize that anything survived, I was under the impression it was 100% submerged. |
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| 11:28.21 | minra | think of it as evolution in action |
| 11:28.22 | streuner | Oldsparc: ls -l lost+found |
| 11:28.38 | minra | (think of everything as evolution in action) |
| 11:28.43 | MustangMatt | minra: ouch |
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| 11:29.01 | Oldsparc | streuner: did you check the paste at http://channels.debian.net/paste/694??? |
| 11:29.13 | Oldsparc | I do have apt-utils installed |
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| 11:30.27 | streuner | Oldsparc: seems to me your FS is fscked... |
| 11:30.37 | llama32 | 2. go-tard |
| 11:30.37 | llama32 | link send redefine 1 up, 1 down |
| 11:30.37 | llama32 | A fucking retard in a weelchair speeding down a hill. |
| 11:30.37 | llama32 | Go-Tard:"Weeeeeeeeee!!! DUH-HARR |
| 11:30.37 | llama32 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:31.42 | Oldsparc | heheheehh - everything seems to work ok |
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| 11:31.52 | streuner | heh |
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| 11:31.58 | Oldsparc | I did have a few problems with sda7 when installing |
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| 11:32.06 | Oldsparc | maybe I will unmount it and fsck it |
| 11:32.14 | me_here | nope my dvd drive will not mount when feed with media dvd-rom |
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| 11:32.36 | me_here | though i got rid of hal and udev |
| 11:32.41 | streuner | Oldsparc: if you dpkg system is fscked, you have serious problems... |
| 11:32.42 | PABLO` | xrbot ? |
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| 11:32.47 | streuner | s/you/your/ |
| 11:32.48 | PABLO` | rxbot ? |
| 11:32.50 | PABLO` | ª_ª |
| 11:32.51 | PABLO` | xD |
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| 11:33.15 | Langly1 | grrr ive got to get a Yamaha OPL3-SA3 working in linux now |
| 11:33.18 | Langly1 | isa soundcard |
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| 11:33.41 | me_here | modprobe snd-opl3-lib ? |
| 11:33.42 | minra | read oss/alsa lists |
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| 11:33.53 | MustangMatt | isa! |
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| 11:34.31 | minra | edge-triggered interrupts. two cascading interrupt ctrlrs. pc architecture broken by design yaay |
| 11:34.42 | MustangMatt | Langly1: You might save yourself some gray hairs by picking up a $10 pci card. |
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| 11:34.52 | Langly1 | MustangMatt its a laptop |
| 11:35.00 | MustangMatt | Langly1: But it has isa? |
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| 11:35.13 | Langly1 | soundcard isnt pci |
| 11:35.16 | Langly1 | isa bus |
| 11:35.18 | Langly1 | not slot |
| 11:35.19 | minra | yes, isa controlled soundcard, not an isa *slot* |
| 11:35.42 | MustangMatt | Langly1: What laptop? They haven't done it that way in years have they? |
| 11:35.49 | Langly1 | Gateway solo 9100 |
| 11:35.53 | Langly1 | p233 |
| 11:35.57 | minra | i have one here - fujitsu ca 1999 p290 |
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| 11:36.33 | me_here | is module ide-cd required (i.e oligatory) to access the cdrom or dvdrom drives ? |
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| 11:36.52 | me_here | s/oli/obli/ |
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| 11:38.58 | MustangMatt | Well guys I'm going to try and get some more sleep. Goodnight! |
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| 11:41.09 | hiux | i'm back with my new system |
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| 11:42.00 | finn__ | he's back. stronger than ever. robo-hiux |
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| 11:42.19 | hiux | :) |
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| 11:44.02 | Chainsaw_Master | oh good |
| 11:44.04 | manbox | is it possbile to log in to debian with X support from a windows platform=?? |
| 11:44.06 | Chainsaw_Master | I'm not an overflow |
| 11:44.18 | manbox | ^over at eth network?? |
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| 11:44.29 | Chainsaw_Master | anyway, I have a few minor problems with my system, I've just rebooted the other day and now X won't start and the network is unreachable |
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| 11:44.45 | Chainsaw_Master | now, I tried logging as root from recovery mode |
| 11:44.58 | Chainsaw_Master | but for some reasons I have no perms at all what-so-ever, even as root |
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| 11:45.10 | Maulkin | We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first Debian man. hiux will be that man. Better than he was before. Better . . . stronger . . . faster. |
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| 11:45.34 | Chainsaw_Master | so I have a few questions |
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| 11:46.01 | Chainsaw_Master | first of all, why the hell don't I have any perms as root? is that normal that I need to chroot from a livecd if I wan't to control my box? |
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| 11:46.14 | Chainsaw_Master | and the second is how do I reconfigure my network from the command line |
| 11:46.14 | manbox | is it possible to log in to debian computer still having X? |
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| 11:46.37 | ircdevil | manbox: that did not make sense |
| 11:47.05 | SquareRt | manbox: are you referring to having console (text) login as well as X (graphical) login? |
| 11:47.18 | Chainsaw_Master | ... |
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| 11:47.24 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: What do you mean 'recovery mode'? |
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| 11:47.35 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: how did you get to it? |
| 11:47.51 | bomb | he probably booted in 'recovery mode' from the GRUB menu |
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| 11:47.53 | SquareRt | maulkin: the default title for the entry in GRUB with "single" option is "(Recovery Mode)" |
| 11:47.59 | Chainsaw_Master | well, I've chose "Debian 2.6.x blah blah blah" in the GRUB menu |
| 11:48.04 | Maulkin | Ahh, fair enough :) |
| 11:48.11 | SquareRt | maulkin: I believe it's new with the new DI |
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| 11:48.27 | Chainsaw_Master | I've also tried booting until where it gets stuck |
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| 11:48.34 | Chainsaw_Master | in the "I can't load x" dialogue |
| 11:48.39 | Chainsaw_Master | and switching to tty2 |
| 11:48.45 | nq | Hi, where can I find the detailed System Services Description? There's too many service at startup, I wanna cancel some, but not sure what's essentional |
| 11:48.45 | Chainsaw_Master | no perms anyway |
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| 11:49.06 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ok. What are you trying to access and what errors are you getting? |
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| 11:49.27 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: oh, and for network config, "man interfaces" and man "ifup" |
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| 11:49.37 | Chainsaw_Master | I'm trying to vim system files and I get... ermm... what was it... |
| 11:49.47 | Chainsaw_Master | I don't remember exactly, but I'm totally read only |
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| 11:49.59 | Maulkin | Can you save with w! ? |
| 11:50.03 | Chainsaw_Master | nope |
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| 11:50.15 | Maulkin | What's teh error? |
| 11:50.22 | Chainsaw_Master | read only drive |
| 11:50.25 | bomb | nq: you can look in /etc/init.d and then read the man pages for the services you see in that directory |
| 11:50.37 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ahh, you need to remount that drive rw. |
| 11:50.48 | Chainsaw_Master | ... |
| 11:50.56 | Chainsaw_Master | it's rw in the fstabs |
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| 11:51.20 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: yeah, but it'smounted ro as you're in recovery mode |
| 11:51.33 | Chainsaw_Master | but it's not only in recovery mode |
| 11:51.36 | Maulkin | mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint |
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| 11:51.45 | nq | bomb: ok. Is there an ALL in ONE page available, I googled, but no results |
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| 11:51.51 | Chainsaw_Master | and what's the point of "recovery mode" being read only? |
| 11:52.12 | bomb | nq: no idea, you're better off reading the man pages anyway |
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| 11:52.36 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: erm... So you're not in recovery mode? |
| 11:52.37 | nq | bomb: all right |
| 11:52.40 | Chainsaw_Master | nope |
| 11:52.42 | Chainsaw_Master | I was |
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| 11:52.48 | Chainsaw_Master | I also tried normal boot |
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| 11:53.21 | Langly1 | grr i cant get my wifi connecting now that ive enabled wep |
| 11:53.24 | marcelk | how do i disable the gam_server? |
| 11:53.38 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ok. What's the exact error? |
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| 11:53.47 | Chainsaw_Master | the exact error when? |
| 11:53.47 | Langly1 | with 64 bit, with the 5 keys, do i need spaces with iwconfig or all together |
| 11:53.49 | hiux | #GIMP |
| 11:54.01 | Chainsaw_Master | when I try to boot? when I try to vim? |
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| 11:54.17 | Maulkin | When you try and exit /save a file |
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| 11:54.22 | Maulkin | *edit |
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| 11:54.51 | Chainsaw_Master | the drive is read only |
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| 11:55.06 | Maulkin | Is that the exact text displayed on the screen? |
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| 11:55.21 | Chainsaw_Master | ahh... I'll go get the exact text, hang on |
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| 11:56.21 | Spritee | Hello |
| 11:56.39 | DashAway_ | when i try to configure my network card i get this error, error fetching interface information: Device not found |
| 11:56.50 | Chainsaw_Master | k |
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| 11:56.58 | Maulkin | DashAway_: Is your kernel module loaded for that card? |
| 11:56.58 | Chainsaw_Master | when I try to edit a file I get a "no recovery file" |
| 11:57.08 | Spritee | I'm installing a harddrive into my linux system for the first. Time is it as simple as install, and format? |
| 11:57.17 | Chainsaw_Master | as I start to type, the entire file is gone and I get a blank page |
| 11:57.17 | DashAway_ | Maulkin:ummm, im not sure... |
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| 11:57.29 | Chainsaw_Master | and then whenever I try to :x I get "no file name" |
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| 11:57.38 | DashAway_ | Maulkin: how do i load it? |
| 11:57.39 | Chainsaw_Master | so I can't even quit without killing the damn thing |
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| 11:57.48 | Maulkin | DashAway_: Ok., what card is it? :) |
| 11:57.57 | ivorw | Spritee: you probably want to think about partitioning your disk |
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| 11:58.05 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: have you tried :saveas ? |
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| 11:58.23 | DashAway_ | Maulkin: nVidia Network Bus Enumerator |
| 11:58.25 | Chainsaw_Master | nope |
| 11:58.38 | Chainsaw_Master | but I can gurantee you that it is'nt going to work |
| 11:58.46 | Chainsaw_Master | anyway, I'll just chroot from a livecd |
| 11:59.22 | Chainsaw_Master | the problem is configuring the network, will reading the man pages for ifup and interfaces be enough? |
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| 11:59.56 | bob2 | just man 5 interfaces |
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| 12:00.05 | Chainsaw_Master | k,thx |
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| 12:00.44 | DashAway_ | so Maulkin can you help me? |
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| 12:01.01 | Maulkin | DashAway_: Checking |
| 12:01.05 | DashAway_ | ok |
| 12:01.07 | Maulkin | DashAway_: is taht a USB thing? |
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| 12:01.47 | DashAway_ | Maulkin: i think its with my MB |
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| 12:02.50 | Maulkin | DashAway_: ok... is it a card on the motherboard, or a device you plug into the usb port? |
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| 12:03.06 | DashAway_ | Maulkin: its on the MB |
| 12:03.10 | Maulkin | ok. |
| 12:03.27 | CrocoJet | where I can find theses files libperl5.8.7 and libatk1.9.0 |
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| 12:03.33 | CrocoJet | are stables ? |
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| 12:04.19 | CrocoJet | I dont wanna use apt-get to download, because my repository is only stable set |
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| 12:05.22 | CrocoJet | ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool .. porgrams here are stables ? |
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| 12:05.50 | Chainsaw_Master | K |
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| 12:06.02 | Chainsaw_Master | appearently "network" is just fine |
| 12:06.09 | Chainsaw_Master | but I still get "network unreachable" |
| 12:06.12 | Maulkin | DashAway_: could you do 'lspci -v' and paste it in pastebin? |
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| 12:07.03 | DashAway_ | Maulkin: i've booted winxp... |
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| 12:07.35 | Maulkin | DashAway_: ok... |
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| 12:07.50 | Chainsaw_Master | ermmm... |
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| 12:08.10 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Could you provide more detail? |
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| 12:08.30 | Chainsaw_Master | errmm... that's all the details I got, but I could issue stuff and tell you the output |
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| 12:08.39 | Chainsaw_Master | as of this point I'm totally clueless |
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| 12:09.07 | Chainsaw_Master | I've looked into the network interfaces file |
| 12:09.10 | Chainsaw_Master | and it's tip top |
| 12:09.12 | SoniCFL | Hello People |
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| 12:09.42 | SoniCFL | can i ask question in here? |
| 12:09.47 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: basically, we need to know exactly what you're doing, and what errors are produced. |
| 12:09.54 | Chainsaw_Master | if you wanna shoot, shoot |
| 12:09.54 | Maulkin | SoniCFL: Please don't ask to ask, just ask |
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| 12:10.10 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, I try pinging a site, I get "can't resolve" |
| 12:10.12 | Chainsaw_Master | prmptly |
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| 12:10.17 | SoniCFL | hehe, well i've installed debian 3.1 |
| 12:10.22 | Chainsaw_Master | when I try to ping an IP |
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| 12:10.28 | SoniCFL | my internet on debian is eth1 dhcp and that works |
| 12:10.28 | Chainsaw_Master | I get "Network unreachable" |
| 12:10.34 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Please pastebin "ipconfig -a" your /etc/network/interfaces file and "route -nv" |
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| 12:10.46 | Chainsaw_Master | I can't pastebin considering I have no connection |
| 12:10.48 | SoniCFL | my network is eth0 192.168.0.1 subnet etc is set |
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| 12:11.07 | Chainsaw_Master | I can only use the "pen and paper" method |
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| 12:11.12 | SoniCFL | i can ping my network from the box and they can ping the box too |
| 12:11.20 | SoniCFL | but i have no inet yet on the network machine |
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| 12:11.27 | SoniCFL | so i installed ipmasq package |
| 12:11.30 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 12:11.41 | tengulre | how to config a linux router! |
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| 12:11.55 | war- | Is there a mailing list out there that tells me when a version of <x> is updated or application <y> is added to Etch's repository? |
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| 12:12.01 | SoniCFL | now i have inet on the network machine but as soon i reboot debian, the internet is gone |
| 12:12.11 | CrocoJet | ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libp/ are stables ? |
| 12:12.13 | SoniCFL | and ping also not working anymore ;(, i'm i doing something wrong? |
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| 12:12.57 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ok, wat's the output of: sudo ifconfig|grep "inet addr" |
| 12:13.05 | Maulkin | (get rid of the sudo :P |
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| 12:13.25 | Chainsaw_Master | the output of ifconfig is a blank |
| 12:13.29 | Chainsaw_Master | I can tell you that |
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| 12:13.37 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 12:13.47 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ok. run "ifup eth0" |
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| 12:14.00 | tengulre | how to config a firewall in lan? |
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| 12:14.22 | minra | tengulre: you win for broadest question of the day |
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| 12:14.48 | minra | in lan my firewall is "iptables -F" |
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| 12:15.01 | Chainsaw_Master | blank |
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| 12:15.48 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: now do "ifconfig -a" |
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| 12:16.27 | theD3viL | How to delete all the packages with aptitude, which programms dont need them? |
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| 12:17.37 | Chainsaw_Master | here we go :/ |
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| 12:18.00 | Chainsaw_Master | Warning: Cannot open /proc/net/dev/ (No such file or directory): Limited output. |
| 12:18.07 | Chainsaw_Master | and.... err |
| 12:18.09 | Chainsaw_Master | that's it |
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| 12:18.51 | stumbles | hiho, ive added a cups printer using the web interface before, but can it be done from the command line (other than editing the printer file) |
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| 12:19.09 | Agrajag- | theD3viL: deborphan |
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| 12:19.28 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin... errmm... any idea? |
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| 12:21.13 | hiux | which soft contain the nmlookup command? |
| 12:21.14 | theD3viL | Agrajag-, yes... i know.. but i remove alsaplayer... and type deborphan .. and dont find anything .. then i go to synaptic and i see alsaplayer-alsa,oss and stuff... and remove it. |
| 12:21.25 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Is "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:22.39 | Agrajag- | theD3viL: deborphan only does libs by default, read man deborphan |
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| 12:23.04 | theD3viL | Agrajag-, which program removes programs ' |
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| 12:23.35 | Agrajag- | theD3viL: please make more sense? |
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| 12:23.54 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin - yes |
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| 12:24.03 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Can you reboot then please. |
| 12:24.11 | Chainsaw_Master | yeah |
| 12:24.21 | Chainsaw_Master | But I remind you that I'm booting into a liveCD |
| 12:24.23 | Chainsaw_Master | and chrooting |
| 12:24.25 | theD3viL | Agrajag-, program which give you list for packages of removed programm |
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| 12:24.40 | Maulkin | ERm... Well, that's why bringing up your intervaces isn't working :) |
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| 12:25.11 | Agrajag- | theD3viL: if you put a sentence together that actually makes sense i might be able to answer you |
| 12:25.17 | Chainsaw_Master | well, the network is unavailable anyway, and using the normal Debian boot the drive is read only |
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| 12:25.22 | Chainsaw_Master | I'll try booting into Debian |
| 12:25.28 | Chainsaw_Master | how do I make it rw? |
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| 12:25.56 | Chainsaw_Master | mount -o, remount something something |
| 12:26.11 | Maulkin | mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint |
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| 12:26.41 | Chainsaw_Master | K, and then run "ifconfig |
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| 12:27.06 | Chainsaw_Master | "ifcongif | grep inet", "ifup -a" and...? |
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| 12:27.23 | Maulkin | Just ifconfig -a |
| 12:27.34 | Chainsaw_Master | ifconfig -a? |
| 12:27.34 | Maulkin | ifup shouldn't need to be run |
| 12:27.37 | Chainsaw_Master | righto |
| 12:27.42 | Oldsparc | streuner: well, fsck didn't help, same error ... so I mailed the list |
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| 12:27.47 | Oldsparc | thanks for your time |
| 12:27.50 | Oldsparc | cheers |
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| 12:27.56 | Maulkin | ta Oldsparc |
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| 12:30.54 | UnWorldly | good morning |
| 12:31.03 | hiux | good night |
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| 12:31.51 | ircdevil | how do i extract the .fvwmrc file from the fvwm-commmon package? |
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| 12:32.46 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, remount worked, I'm in |
| 12:32.48 | Chainsaw_Master | what now? |
| 12:32.55 | Chainsaw_Master | It's pretty long, what should I look for? |
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| 12:34.32 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: You're getting output? |
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| 12:34.44 | Chainsaw_Master | a pretty big one |
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| 12:34.53 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: SHould be workign then. |
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| 12:35.19 | Chainsaw_Master | should be... |
| 12:35.22 | Chainsaw_Master | err... I'll try that |
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| 12:36.25 | Chainsaw_Master | nope |
| 12:36.27 | Chainsaw_Master | no ping |
| 12:36.43 | SoniCFL | @Maulkin you got an idea why inet works on network pc's after ipmasq is installed but when debian get's reboot it isn't working anymore same for ping |
| 12:36.45 | ravenbird | SoniCFL: that's too long |
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| 12:37.27 | SoniCFL | @ravenbird ? |
| 12:37.29 | bomb | SoniCFL: don't use @ in front of nicks |
| 12:37.39 | bomb | it's a bot trigger |
| 12:37.42 | SoniCFL | ah sorry |
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| 12:37.55 | biosedit | i am install lfs6.1 with debian now gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': Too many levels of symbolic links but my gcc is well and have one link..... |
| 12:38.08 | bob2 | someone broke your toolchain |
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| 12:39.05 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, there is an output, but I get "network unreachble" when I try to ping an IP |
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| 12:40.15 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ok. I really need the output of ipconfig -a and route -n |
| 12:40.27 | bob2 | find them and beat them |
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| 12:40.58 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin - all of it? |
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| 12:41.13 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Basically. |
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| 12:43.37 | rjalex | Does anyone know if Radeon framebuffer can be driven at more than 8bpp ????? |
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| 12:44.36 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, I'm switching to another machine, brb |
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| 12:45.20 | odine | ok... ran the debian installer... detected my network cards, now when doing the apt setup im not online.... im connected to a router, is there something else i need to do? |
| 12:45.21 | drac | rjalex: Yes, you can even do things like video=radeon:1024x768-24@100.. |
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| 12:45.37 | dabaR | Wyzard: you here? |
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| 12:45.50 | streuner | odline: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
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| 12:46.11 | streuner | odine: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 12:46.19 | rjalex | drac: thank you ... if I give no option my LCD gets driven at 1400x1050 at 8bpp ... what to have 1400x1050 but at 16bpp ? kernel 2.6.13 |
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| 12:47.14 | yacyac | hii all ... anyone aronud |
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| 12:47.26 | odine | thanks |
| 12:47.29 | shingouz | yacyac: no, you are all alnone here |
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| 12:47.44 | yacyac | i have installed debian sarge through netinstall cd ... so what do i need to do now |
| 12:47.54 | shingouz | abrotman: :p |
| 12:47.55 | rjalex | yacyac: use it |
| 12:47.56 | yacyac | get x11 and then get kde / gnome ? |
| 12:48.09 | abrotman | hi |
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| 12:48.12 | shingouz | yacyac: if you want them, go for it |
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| 12:48.46 | yacyac | shingouz yes i want them |
| 12:48.50 | yacyac | and how do i get them |
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| 12:48.55 | yacyac | i dont know the command |
| 12:49.01 | yacyac | i am a newbie to debian |
| 12:49.04 | Py | I'm looking for a kind of locking systems which meets 3 conditions: 1) the protected executable can never be running more than once at a time 2) if the protected executable is not actually running when the locking system is asked to start it, is should get started each time (eg no "no-starting" when not running, has to always work) 3) locking system has to be crash proof: no manual action should be needed (eg to delete a lockfile or somewhat in case of crash, kill |
| 12:49.04 | Py | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.06 | rjalex | yacyac: if you are connectes use apt-get |
| 12:49.09 | yacyac | should i use aptitude ? |
| 12:49.21 | shingouz | yacyac: man aptitude or man apt-get. for newbies i would recommend aptitude |
| 12:49.30 | yacyac | ok |
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| 12:49.45 | yacyac | does it resume if i get disconnected or i need to restart ? |
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| 12:50.13 | rjalex | yacyac: will keep downloaded packages |
| 12:50.15 | shingouz | yacyac: not sure if you have to restart it manually. it will resume the actions in anycase |
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| 12:50.37 | rjalex | yacyac: not partially downloaded packages though IIRC |
| 12:50.49 | dabaR | shingouz: aptitude is now the user front end for apt-get. |
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| 12:51.10 | shingouz | dabaR: as i said, for newbies aptitude most of the time |
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| 12:51.25 | dabaR | I use aptitude... |
| 12:51.30 | rjalex | yacyac: when you have X up and running you might want to use synaptic instead ... |
| 12:51.32 | shingouz | i don't |
| 12:51.37 | dabaR | I can tell. |
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| 12:52.00 | apsaola | shingouz, aptitude is unfriendly, why not synaptic? |
| 12:52.09 | yacyac | so whats the command to get X11 |
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| 12:52.18 | shingouz | apsaola: i have no idea. isn't it somethign clickyclicky? |
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| 12:52.22 | dabaR | yacyac: what graphic card do you have? |
| 12:52.28 | rjalex | apsaola: synaptic without X will be useless :) |
| 12:52.31 | apsaola | shingouz: yeh. |
| 12:52.37 | shingouz | apsaola: eugh |
| 12:52.41 | Maulkin | Py: init? |
| 12:52.44 | yacyac | well i have a laptop |
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| 12:52.52 | yacyac | i have installed on it |
| 12:53.00 | shingouz | yacyac: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 12:53.23 | apsaola | rjalex: of course, X is very basic. Who doesn't want a gui to operate a system nowadays? |
| 12:53.25 | shingouz | yacyac: there is a nice link you should follow, a lot of information on laptop installs |
| 12:53.34 | shingouz | apsaola: me for one |
| 12:53.41 | rjalex | apsaola: yacyac does not have X yet :) |
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| 12:54.21 | yacyac | i will need to get the X running right |
| 12:54.23 | rjalex | apsaola: besides running X on servers is not entirely a sane idea ... |
| 12:54.26 | yacyac | i will need to download it |
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| 12:54.35 | apsaola | rjalex: he should be advised to install X first before doing other things. |
| 12:54.44 | shingouz | !tell yacyac about set up x |
| 12:54.48 | rjalex | apsaola: that is what he is asking :) |
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| 12:55.05 | shingouz | yacyac: apt downloads and installs, you do not have to d/l anything manually |
| 12:55.08 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin |
| 12:55.16 | Chainsaw_Master | I'm here, I have the file in front of me |
| 12:55.27 | Chainsaw_Master | do you need me to look for something? because it's pretty long |
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| 12:55.32 | yacyac | so whats the command |
| 12:55.36 | yacyac | apt-get X11 ? |
| 12:55.39 | yacyac | something like that |
| 12:55.49 | shingouz | yacyac: read what dpkg messaged you |
| 12:55.55 | Chainsaw_Master | It's divided into sections |
| 12:56.01 | rjalex | no: apt-get update; apt-get install laptop |
| 12:56.10 | Chainsaw_Master | eth0, lo, sit0, vmnet1 and vmnet8 |
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| 12:56.15 | shingouz | rjalex: and what is that then? |
| 12:56.16 | Chainsaw_Master | do you need all of them? |
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| 12:56.42 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Erm... what's the line like: |
| 12:56.51 | Maulkin | inet addr:193.201.200.139 Bcast:193.201.200.255 Mask:255.255.255.128 |
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| 12:57.22 | Maulkin | And teh one from route that starts with 0.0.0.0 |
| 12:57.23 | Chainsaw_Master | in ifconfig -a? |
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| 12:57.32 | Maulkin | yeah |
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| 12:57.41 | Maulkin | or ifconfig eth0 |
| 12:57.42 | Chainsaw_Master | no such line |
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| 12:58.03 | rjalex | yakyak: please see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 12:58.08 | shingouz | yacyac: on freenode, messaging people is not usually appreciated |
| 12:58.10 | Maulkin | ok... are you getting an address over dhcp? |
| 12:58.17 | Chainsaw_Master | nope |
| 12:58.20 | Chainsaw_Master | staatic |
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| 12:58.35 | Maulkin | Can you "ifup eth0" |
| 12:58.39 | yacyac | shingouz sorry |
| 12:58.44 | Maulkin | then look for the line in ifconfig again |
| 12:58.59 | Chainsaw_Master | "interface eth0 alredy configured" |
| 12:59.08 | shingouz | yacyac: np, man |
| 12:59.18 | rjalex | yacyac: try Googling for pages like "Instaling debian on a XXXX laptop" where XXXX is your model |
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| 12:59.43 | shingouz | rjalex: have you checked out what /msg dpkg laptop says? you should |
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| 13:00.02 | shingouz | yacyac: you too, /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 13:00.14 | shingouz | yacyac: dpkg is a bot... he is suppoed to be messaged |
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| 13:00.55 | yacyac | ok |
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| 13:01.29 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, still need the route? |
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| 13:01.38 | yacyac | apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 13:01.40 | yacyac | so this is the command i should type in right |
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| 13:02.03 | shingouz | yacyac: it works, yes |
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| 13:02.33 | [czech]mila | hello all |
| 13:02.48 | [czech]mila | can somebody help me with debian please? |
| 13:02.56 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: looks like an error in your interfaces file. |
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| 13:03.07 | Chainsaw_Master | what could be it? |
| 13:03.13 | yacyac | shingouz can you explain me the command |
| 13:03.16 | Chainsaw_Master | It's set on static in the interfaces file |
| 13:03.28 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Could you paste the lines? |
| 13:03.34 | Maulkin | to #flood |
| 13:03.49 | Chainsaw_Master | and the inet connection used to work, it's like X, syslog and interfaces decided to turn on me simoltaniosly |
| 13:03.54 | bob2 | [czech]mila: you need to actually ask a question |
| 13:04.16 | [czech]mila | I would like install some package (phpwiki) and I'm using the apache2, but the phpwiki show that recomended package is apache. Is there a posibility to use apache2 instead of the apache 1.3 ? |
| 13:04.29 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, /j #flood |
| 13:04.59 | bob2 | I'd strongly recommend avoiding phpwiki |
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| 13:05.03 | Py | Maulkin: am looking at init. Is it usable to control an app which won't be ran in a particular runlevel, but mostly interactively by users? |
| 13:05.10 | [czech]mila | bob2: why ? |
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| 13:05.23 | bob2 | because it's not moin |
| 13:05.27 | bob2 | also, it will work fine with apache2 |
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| 13:06.06 | [czech]mila | and how to force use the apache2 ? any param for apt-get or dpkg ? like in gentoo ??? USE="apache2" ?? |
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| 13:06.10 | bob2 | [czech]mila: and it's unmaintained |
| 13:06.13 | bob2 | no, don't be silly |
| 13:06.18 | bob2 | it doesn't Depend on apache |
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| 13:06.24 | bob2 | it just recommends it |
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| 13:06.24 | Vixenos | hello =] |
| 13:06.30 | shingouz | yacyac: in makes apt install a few things like discover and read-edid to check your hardware and installs the proper xserver |
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| 13:07.02 | [czech]mila | Creating config file /etc/phpwiki/apache.conf with new version |
| 13:07.02 | [czech]mila | grep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory |
| 13:07.03 | [czech]mila | /usr/sbin/apachectl is not executable, exiting |
| 13:07.10 | japoana | Vixenos: how is your downloading with valnut? |
| 13:07.13 | yacyac | shingouz its not working |
| 13:07.16 | yacyac | gave me an arror |
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| 13:07.28 | shingouz | yacyac: and the error is? |
| 13:07.29 | adrakoa | hi |
| 13:07.31 | bob2 | [czech]mila: then it's broken, file a bug on it |
| 13:07.37 | Vixenos | japoana, I don't download with valknut since 1week. Why ? |
| 13:07.38 | yacyac | error |
| 13:07.42 | bob2 | [czech]mila: but it's also unmaintained, so the bug will likely not be fixed |
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| 13:07.54 | yacyac | package read-edid is not available |
| 13:07.55 | bob2 | [czech]mila: I'd recommend using something better looked after, like moin or mediawiki |
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| 13:08.04 | Maulkin | Py: not really. You're probably going to have to write a wrapper yourself. |
| 13:08.08 | shingouz | yacyac: sec |
| 13:08.15 | japoana | Vixenos: were you not here yesterday? |
| 13:08.30 | bob2 | Py: what does the app do? |
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| 13:08.53 | shingouz | !tell yacyac about install gnome |
| 13:08.53 | Vixenos | japoana, i was here yesterday yes |
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| 13:09.11 | shingouz | yacyac: that is if you want to have gnome and have the power to run such a big beast |
| 13:09.14 | [czech]mila | bob2: thanks |
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| 13:09.31 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: can you please 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0" and see if "ifconfig eth0" has changed |
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| 13:09.34 | japoana | Vixenos: and chatting about valnut? |
| 13:09.35 | shingouz | yacyac: those should work at least. i suspect the "set up x" is a bit outdated at the moment |
| 13:09.45 | Vixenos | japoana, yes |
| 13:09.58 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: You'll need to make sure the cable is plugged in when you bring up the interface |
| 13:10.07 | [czech]mila | bye |
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| 13:10.12 | japoana | Vixenos: and piracy? |
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| 13:10.21 | Vixenos | no :] |
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| 13:10.35 | Vixenos | jsut talk about the protocol using by valknut, direct connect |
| 13:10.38 | yacyac | shingouz i will need to install X should i directly type apt-get install xserver-org |
| 13:10.43 | yacyac | xorg |
| 13:10.44 | resuDaed | Hi, trying to to install debian on a sparc64, but having trouble setting up software raid ... when creating partitions from partitioner, I cannot set the type of partion to raid ... is this just me or is the installer missing something? |
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| 13:10.47 | MasterP | Hi, i have a question about nidswrapper, someone good with that? |
| 13:10.59 | shingouz | yacyac: not really, do you want gnome on the box? |
| 13:11.08 | japoana | Vixenos: its ok, i am not after you for software piracy. |
| 13:11.12 | resuDaed | I have used the ndiswapper successfully |
| 13:11.15 | yacyac | shingouz whats with read-edid |
| 13:11.15 | shingouz | MasterP: just ask the question, someone may know the answer |
| 13:11.21 | shingouz | yacyac: no idea |
| 13:11.25 | yacyac | yes i am just thinking what to use .. gnome or kde |
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| 13:11.30 | yacyac | which one is better |
| 13:11.39 | japoana | Vixenos: so what are you going to chat about today? |
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| 13:11.51 | MasterP | when i type modprobe ndiswrapper i get an error msg even thou i have followed all the steps in the faq and guides i have found :( |
| 13:11.53 | bob2 | resuDaed: if no one here knows, perhps try the debian-sparc mailing list |
| 13:11.54 | Maulkin | !better |
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| 13:11.54 | dpkg | better is probably a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 13:12.07 | shingouz | yacyac: how big cpu and how much ram does your laptop have? |
| 13:12.09 | bob2 | MasterP: how would you expect anyone to be able to help you when you haven't shown us the error? |
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| 13:12.15 | MasterP | im about to type it |
| 13:12.18 | Maulkin | MasterP: What's the error please? |
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| 13:12.22 | bob2 | MasterP: also, if you got the "permission denied" one, you forgot to read the FAQ |
| 13:12.24 | MasterP | takes me a while since im typing one handed |
| 13:12.31 | resuDaed | yacyac, imho, I like gnome (if I had to pick one), but it just depends what you like |
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| 13:12.51 | finn__ | smoking a cigarette |
| 13:13.01 | yacyac | shingouz i have a amd turion 1.6ghz processer and 256mb ddr ram .. but i am planning to upgrade more 512mb ram next month |
| 13:13.02 | Vixenos | japoana, today ? hum, about my ATI chipset, because i have too install the fglrx driver, and I havn't got a howto |
| 13:13.03 | MasterP | FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (lib/modules/2.6.8.2-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): invalid module format |
| 13:13.12 | resuDaed | yacyac, a window manager is just something that allows you to use a gui web browser on top of a much nicer looking console |
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| 13:13.16 | bob2 | MasterP: then you built the module wrongly |
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| 13:13.20 | drac | MasterP: "dmesg" tells you why it's invalid format. |
| 13:13.25 | MasterP | k |
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| 13:13.30 | green_earz | resuDaed: check out the link for a software install with the debian installer > http://nepotismia.com/debian/raidinstall/ |
| 13:13.34 | yacyac | yes |
| 13:13.35 | shingouz | yacyac: heh. check what dpkg told you about installing gnome and go for it. with that kind of power gnome screams |
| 13:13.41 | yacyac | thats true |
| 13:13.48 | MasterP | disagrees about version of symbol struct_module |
| 13:13.48 | yacyac | hehe |
| 13:14.03 | japoana | Vixenos: sorry, I can't help you on this one, hope others can. |
| 13:14.16 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin |
| 13:14.19 | Chainsaw_Master | ? |
| 13:14.21 | adrakoa | hi, i don't know why, but gnome is freeze, to do something i must do killall gnome-panel ... someone know which is the problem... |
| 13:14.22 | MasterP | i moved the ndiswrapper.ko from 2.6.8.2-686 to 2.6.8.2-386 |
| 13:14.23 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master |
| 13:14.24 | Maulkin | ? |
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| 13:14.36 | Chainsaw_Master | I gave you the output |
| 13:14.39 | Chainsaw_Master | any ideas? |
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| 13:14.40 | MasterP | before that modprobe didnt locate it |
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| 13:14.44 | fhffhqvb | !any ideas |
| 13:14.44 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of condoms, a little K-Y jelly, and a handful of sex-crazed goats. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 13:14.44 | bob2 | MasterP: wow, what a shock that didn't work |
| 13:14.48 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: can you please 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0" and see if "ifconfig eth0" has changed |
| 13:14.53 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: You'll need to make sure the cable is plugged in when you bring up the interface |
| 13:14.57 | bob2 | MasterP: it's almost as if the module was built for an entirely different and incompatible kernel |
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| 13:15.00 | bob2 | oh, wait, it was! |
| 13:15.07 | Chainsaw_Master | It was |
| 13:15.08 | shingouz | yacyac: i'd say apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment should do it |
| 13:15.09 | bob2 | MasterP: recompile it for the kernel you're actually using |
| 13:15.09 | fhffhqvb | !sing sunday |
| 13:15.09 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 13:15.13 | bob2 | MasterP: delete it for now |
| 13:15.19 | MasterP | ok, deleteing |
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| 13:15.32 | yacyac | i can stop anytime and resume it anytime later right with the same command or there is another command for it |
| 13:15.34 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: did you have the "inet 10.0.0.something" line in it? |
| 13:15.51 | MasterP | done |
| 13:15.59 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, you want me to plug the machine, run the ifconfig again and search for that line? |
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| 13:16.26 | shingouz | yacyac: yes you can stop it. restart with the same command |
| 13:16.32 | yacyac | kool |
| 13:16.35 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: yes, but you need to have the cable in before you ifup again |
| 13:16.42 | yacyac | thanks a lot |
| 13:16.51 | Chainsaw_Master | so what should I do? ifconfig or ifup? |
| 13:16.52 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: if you see it, try pinging the gateway |
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| 13:17.11 | MasterP | bob, should i remove ndiswrapper and apt-get the lastest version ? |
| 13:17.12 | Chainsaw_Master | wait wait, I'm lost in here |
| 13:17.17 | Chainsaw_Master | I should ifup eth0? |
| 13:17.23 | Maulkin | 'ifdown eth0' Plug cable in. 'ifup eth0' |
| 13:17.23 | Chainsaw_Master | or ifconfig eth0? |
| 13:17.25 | bob2 | MasterP: doesn't matter |
| 13:17.27 | Maulkin | "ifconfig eth0" |
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| 13:17.30 | MasterP | ok |
| 13:17.33 | Chainsaw_Master | ok |
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| 13:17.36 | Chainsaw_Master | thanks |
| 13:17.41 | Maulkin | Look for "inet 10.0.0.something" line |
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| 13:17.47 | MasterP | man it's hard learning this stuff ;) |
| 13:17.48 | Maulkin | if you see it, ping your gateway |
| 13:17.48 | row2 | Why does php5-gd require x11-common to be installed, anyone know if this is a bug or meant to happen etc, because this is a server with no gui I would rather not have to waste bandwidth updaing x11-common + having it waste sapce etc. |
| 13:17.54 | Chainsaw_Master | wait, I've issued ifdown eth0 |
| 13:17.59 | bob2 | because GD is shit |
| 13:18.06 | bob2 | also, look at how big x11-common is |
| 13:18.06 | Chainsaw_Master | I got "SIOCDELRT: no such process" |
| 13:18.26 | bob2 | it's 1.2MB |
| 13:18.29 | bob2 | you really don't care |
| 13:18.42 | row2 | bob2: it also wants xlibs-data |
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| 13:19.04 | row2 | bob2: and other crap. |
| 13:19.06 | MasterP | bob2, stupid question then, how do i compile a new .ko with the right version then? |
| 13:19.06 | bob2 | another 7MB |
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| 13:19.15 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: as root :) |
| 13:19.25 | Chainsaw_Master | I AM root :( |
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| 13:19.34 | bob2 | MasterP: I don't know, how did you build it last time? |
| 13:19.36 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ok, it's probably down already then. |
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| 13:19.43 | Evil_Devil | hi |
| 13:19.44 | Evil_Devil | how can i configure the X server on my old pc i am using debian sarge |
| 13:19.45 | Chainsaw_Master | OK |
| 13:19.47 | MasterP | i followed the steps in the guides i found |
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| 13:19.48 | Chainsaw_Master | BRB then |
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| 13:19.54 | MasterP | apt-get intall ndiswrapper |
| 13:19.59 | MasterP | ndiswrapper -bla inifile |
| 13:20.02 | MasterP | etc |
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| 13:20.13 | Maulkin | Evil_Devil: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 13:20.22 | bob2 | MasterP: and which of this is supposed to compiel the module? |
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| 13:20.38 | MasterP | like i would know? i installed linux/debian for the first time in my life today |
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| 13:21.03 | Py | bob2: the app is a proprietary graphical app which does communicate with proprietary devices on the network |
| 13:21.09 | bob2 | fun |
| 13:21.12 | Evil_Devil | i mean how can i increase the screen resolution |
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| 13:21.15 | bob2 | running that from init won't work then |
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| 13:22.03 | bob2 | MasterP: can yo uexchange the card for a better supported one? |
| 13:22.04 | bob2 | what is it? |
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| 13:22.21 | MasterP | its a trendnet pcmcia card |
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| 13:22.26 | MasterP | and its the only wireless i got :( |
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| 13:22.35 | Maulkin | Py: You'll need to write your own wrapper for it. |
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| 13:23.07 | Maulkin | Evil_Devil: edit /etc/X11/XFree86-4 (or something like that) |
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| 13:23.27 | Maulkin | Evil_Devil: Have a look for the resolution lines, and add one. |
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| 13:23.36 | bob2 | MasterP: trendnet is not a chipset |
| 13:23.43 | MasterP | the chipset is marvell |
| 13:24.28 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin ifup works, the inet line is: "inet addr:10.0.0.142 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0" |
| 13:24.28 | MasterP | 2 revisions exist with different chipsets, but still same model name |
| 13:24.28 | bob2 | I'm pretty sure that's not a wireless chipset |
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| 13:24.40 | Maulkin | Good good. Does the ping work? |
| 13:24.46 | Chainsaw_Master | the thing is that there is no response to ping, inside the network or out |
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| 13:25.04 | Chainsaw_Master | and ever minute if so I get a message |
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| 13:25.17 | Chainsaw_Master | "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out" |
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| 13:25.30 | Evil_Devil | so if i have in the file resolution 1024x768 i will have in reality 800x600 |
| 13:25.30 | pepperpot | my mouse wheel doesn't produce any output to /dev/input/mice. And the kernel identified my mouse as generic. What do I do to get the mouse wheel working? |
| 13:25.32 | bob2 | that's in kernelese |
| 13:25.38 | bob2 | it means "HOLY FUCK YOUR CARD IS BROKEN" |
| 13:25.41 | bob2 | or the pci bus |
| 13:25.58 | bob2 | a friend's server's NIC only works without hat error if it has a tv card plugged in to it |
| 13:26.12 | bob2 | pepperpot: dude...is this an ubuntu or a debian machine? |
| 13:26.12 | MasterP | "Ethernet Controller: Marvell Technology Group LTD" |
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| 13:26.27 | stumbles | how can i start a job remotely via ssh so that it will continue to run when i close the connection? |
| 13:26.37 | pirre | stumbles: screen? |
| 13:26.46 | tchino | when i do fetchmail, it collect only the new mails, but let the other mail on the server. the keep option is uncomment in .fetchmailrc |
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| 13:26.57 | Maulkin | stumbles: screen, or add '&' to the end of the command |
| 13:27.00 | pepperpot | bob2, it's ubuntu, but I'm using a plain kernel |
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| 13:27.03 | bob2 | MasterP: you sure that's the wireless command? |
| 13:27.09 | bob2 | pepperpot: then you're asking in the wrong channel |
| 13:27.10 | MasterP | yep |
| 13:27.12 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin? |
| 13:27.30 | MasterP | just gimme a hint on how to compile and ill work my way from there, i have solved all other problems i have had today on my own :) |
| 13:27.41 | stumbles | Maulkin: i thought bg'd processes would still die |
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| 13:28.12 | Evil_Devil | so if i want my resolution to be 1024x768 i have to add 1280x1024 for example am i right? |
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| 13:28.27 | bob2 | wtf |
| 13:28.27 | bob2 | no |
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| 13:28.55 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: You are running Debian, right? |
| 13:28.59 | Chainsaw_Master | Yep |
| 13:29.00 | pirre | stumbles: or, if you want to do it old school, try 'nohup' :) |
| 13:29.01 | Chainsaw_Master | sarge |
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| 13:29.11 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: ok. Can you stop your firewall? |
| 13:29.23 | moshii | Does linux-image-2.6.12-1-12 not boot for anyone else? |
| 13:29.24 | stumbles | ok cheers pirre |
| 13:29.25 | Chainsaw_Master | errr... that would be a problem |
| 13:29.32 | BusMaster | hey guys...I am using sarge, and when xmms is playing something, I can't hear sounds in gaim...I am using alsa..is there any way I can do both? |
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| 13:29.37 | moshii | 2.6.12-1-686 sorry |
| 13:29.38 | Chainsaw_Master | my firewall is running from the router |
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| 13:30.03 | dvs | BusMaster: Make xmms use alsa, not oss |
| 13:30.07 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Does the router have auto-negotiate off? |
| 13:30.12 | bob2 | moshii: if it doesn't, do file a bug |
| 13:30.14 | Chainsaw_Master | nope |
| 13:30.19 | Chainsaw_Master | it's a rigged gateway |
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| 13:30.22 | bob2 | BusMaster: http://opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin |
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| 13:30.26 | moshii | BusMaster: Can you card support multiple streams? |
| 13:30.29 | pirre | stumbles: but seriously, use 'screen' |
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| 13:30.39 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: basically, it looks like something (namely NetDev Watchdog) is blocking things |
| 13:30.46 | BusMaster | dvs, xmms is also using alsa |
| 13:30.48 | resuDaed | pepperpot, are you comfortable with editing your /etc/x11/xorg.conf? |
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| 13:30.58 | BusMaster | moshii, i don't know...its an on-boars intel 8x0 |
| 13:31.01 | Chainsaw_Master | well, how come nothing was blocked before and it is now? |
| 13:31.02 | BusMaster | bob2, thanks |
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| 13:31.07 | bob2 | BusMaster: see that url, alsa by itself doesn't help with multipl devices |
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| 13:31.16 | moshii | BusMaster: you need dmix then |
| 13:31.19 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: It was workign before? |
| 13:31.30 | Chainsaw_Master | these setting worked fine for years untell yesterday |
| 13:31.36 | Maulkin | Ok. What did you change yesterday? |
| 13:31.36 | BusMaster | bob2, i don't have multiple devices.. |
| 13:31.40 | Chainsaw_Master | yesterday my entire system decided to die |
| 13:31.45 | BusMaster | moshii, do you think jack will help? |
| 13:31.46 | dvs | BusMaster: In xmms, go to "Options" then "Preferences". What does the Output Plugin say? |
| 13:31.49 | moshii | bob2: The machine just hangs after and the cpu fan starts up, not really sure what to report ;) |
| 13:31.50 | Chainsaw_Master | I have no graohic server atm... |
| 13:32.08 | BusMaster | dvs, ALSA 1.2.10 Output Plugin |
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| 13:32.17 | dvs | BusMaster: ok |
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| 13:32.33 | moshii | BusMaster: Jack is for something else isn't it? you need to mix the multiple streams into one to play out of your sound card, dmix does that |
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| 13:32.47 | BusMaster | moshii, oh ok... |
| 13:33.15 | valdyn | BusMaster: gaim supports alsa? since when? |
| 13:33.31 | moshii | BusMaster: copy and paste'able stuff to setup dmix is on the alsa page for your chipset of I remember correctly |
| 13:33.41 | BusMaster | moshii, i saw a diagram on the jack website...basically, I saw that you can make the output of sound programs as its (jack's) input and have jack play it..so i thought if i can have xmms and gaim send their outputs ot jack, and have jack send it to the soundcard... |
| 13:33.53 | BusMaster | moshii, i'll check it out |
| 13:34.06 | BusMaster | valdyn, it doesn't? oh damn...there goes my theory :) |
| 13:34.10 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, what can I do to find the source of the bloackage? |
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| 13:34.29 | DrZoot | does anyone know if the mini-pci specification is actually a spec or is it just a form factor that everyone uses but changes in their own way? |
| 13:34.38 | valdyn | BusMaster: set it to use a command, let that command be 'aplay %s', set up dmix as you got told above, thats all |
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| 13:35.02 | cahoot | BusMaster: can at least use aplay (gaim) |
| 13:35.08 | achaoge | hi, all |
| 13:35.10 | achaoge | FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device |
| 13:35.12 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: What did you change yesterday? |
| 13:35.28 | valdyn | BusMaster: but if you soundcard supports multiple sources then you can also just skip the dmix part. |
| 13:35.29 | achaoge | What's that mean? |
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| 13:35.48 | BusMaster | thanks guys |
| 13:35.54 | moshii | does anyone know what kernel option is used to force a non-framebuffer console? I think that's where this kernel is puking |
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| 13:35.58 | piem | DrZoot: when you say 'everyone', would you be thinking to apple? :) |
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| 13:36.17 | valdyn | achaoge: that you do not have the hardware for that module to do anything |
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| 13:36.40 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin - nothing! |
| 13:36.47 | Chainsaw_Master | that what makes it so frustrating |
| 13:36.54 | achaoge | valdyn: Thank you. |
| 13:36.55 | valdyn | achaoge: unless you used 'insmod', just dont use that.. |
| 13:37.00 | Chainsaw_Master | yesterday my machine was working intollerabely slowly |
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| 13:37.05 | bob2 | BusMaster: s/devices/apps/ |
| 13:37.06 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: Things don't just 'stop working' :) |
| 13:37.15 | Chainsaw_Master | my resource uptake was tremendous |
| 13:37.19 | bob2 | moshii: if it's not reaching grub, it's not debian's fault |
| 13:37.28 | Chainsaw_Master | so I've tried to boot, and poof! nothing works |
| 13:37.41 | valdyn | !dmix |
| 13:37.41 | dpkg | from memory, dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 13:37.50 | DrZoot | piem: no, i just want to know if i get a 2200bg intel wireless card and stick it in a minpci slot on a rs480m ati chipset laptop will it work .... or blow up |
| 13:38.00 | moshii | bob2: I use lilo because d-i wasn't working with XFS/grub ... lilo is working, it booted this kernel |
| 13:38.02 | odine | will the nvidia drivers build with the amd64 build of debian? |
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| 13:38.21 | achaoge | valdyn: km400+amd 3000+， that's not enough? |
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| 13:38.36 | valdyn | odine: there is debian packages for nvidia cards, for amd64, in the official repositories |
| 13:38.37 | Maulkin | Chainsaw_Master: I'd suggest mailing the debian-users list |
| 13:38.40 | DrZoot | so far from what ive read at the pcisig.com website it should all be ok |
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| 13:39.30 | odine | valdyn okay... i tried doing the nvidia one-liner and it didnt work.. there a different process? |
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| 13:39.40 | piem | DrZoot: i would hope so too |
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| 13:39.54 | theD3viL | Where to set up to use kdm' |
| 13:40.00 | bob2 | moshii: so you really mean "it reaches lilo, then the kernel starts, then it prints..."? |
| 13:40.03 | dvs | !install kde |
| 13:40.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 13:40.04 | theD3viL | Where to set up to use kdm? (now i using gdm) |
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| 13:40.12 | valdyn | achaoge: uname -r |
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| 13:40.18 | cbr | theD3viL: dpkg-reconfigure xdm |
| 13:40.19 | cbr | try that |
| 13:40.23 | rjalex | Tried googling for a guide on using fbsplash with Debian but it seems only Gentoo-ers are real man :) Any pointers ?? TIA |
| 13:40.28 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkinare you sure? It's quite urgent for me to run it :/ |
| 13:40.29 | cbr | dont remember if it was the one |
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| 13:40.38 | drac | dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 13:40.40 | achaoge | valdyn: 2.6.12-1-k7 |
| 13:40.47 | valdyn | achaoge: your mainboard does not support acpi cpufreq scaling, your cpu speed has nothing to do with that.. |
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| 13:41.22 | achaoge | valdyn: Thanks. |
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| 13:41.29 | tchino | when i do fetchmail, it collect only the new mails, but let the other mail on the server. the keep option is uncomment in .fetchmailrc |
| 13:41.34 | moshii | bob2: lilo loads the kernel, screen goes blank, cpu fan starts up (it's a laptop) |
| 13:41.38 | odine | valdyn i tried to use the nvidia one-liner and it isnt working, it worked fine before but i switched to amd64 and now having problems.....? |
| 13:41.44 | tchino | what is the problem |
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| 13:41.51 | rjalex | drac: how can I be sure my radeonfb really honoured your hint ? (put video=radeon:1400x1050-16@60 in my GRUB kernel line) |
| 13:41.56 | valdyn | achaoge: 'modprobe powernow-k7 |
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| 13:42.10 | yacyac | shingouz |
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| 13:42.16 | yacyac | how do i change the proxy setting |
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| 13:42.16 | shingouz | yacyac: |
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| 13:42.28 | shingouz | yacyac: huh? |
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| 13:42.32 | achaoge | valdyn: FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k7 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko): No such device |
| 13:42.45 | yacyac | i use a proxy for internt from the server |
| 13:42.47 | resuDaed | tchino, are you using gmail? |
| 13:42.50 | achaoge | valdyn: just same as acpi-cpufreq |
| 13:42.50 | valdyn | achaoge: 'modprobe powernow-k8 ? |
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| 13:43.06 | yacyac | i have added proxy while apt-setup ... now how do i change that setting |
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| 13:43.09 | theD3viL | cbr, xdm is not installed |
| 13:43.15 | achaoge | valdyn: FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device |
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| 13:43.25 | shingouz | yacyac: rerun apt-setup is my guess |
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| 13:43.32 | bob2 | moshii: there you go |
| 13:43.35 | yacyac | i tried |
| 13:43.38 | bob2 | moshii: what is the exact kernel name? |
| 13:43.40 | cbr | theD3viL: kdm instead of xdm then |
| 13:43.42 | cbr | works for me |
| 13:43.42 | moshii | bob2: The custom 2.6.12 kernel I built doesn't have i810 framebuffer support because it did the same thing |
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| 13:43.45 | yacyac | but it dosnt ask for |
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| 13:43.52 | bob2 | moshii: just don't use a FB at all |
| 13:43.56 | resuDaed | yacyac, edit /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 13:43.57 | theD3viL | cbr, yeah |
| 13:44.05 | SoniCFL | anyknow what this error means on debian 3.1, make: cc: Command not found |
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| 13:44.08 | SoniCFL | gcc is installed |
| 13:44.10 | theD3viL | cbr, tnx |
| 13:44.17 | moshii | bob2: what do I pass to in lilo to stop it trying to use FB? |
| 13:44.18 | cbr | SoniCFL: there is no C compiler? |
| 13:44.22 | resuDaed | delete the proxy line (or better, rename the file incase you need the proxy again sometime) |
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| 13:44.30 | valdyn | achaoge: so your cpu doesnt support freq scaling at all, probably |
| 13:44.31 | dvs | SoniCFL: There is not /etc/alternatives |
| 13:44.36 | achaoge | valdyn: althon 3000+ :) |
| 13:44.37 | yacyac | which file is it ... i can edit it |
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| 13:44.46 | resuDaed | yacyac, edit /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 13:44.52 | SoniCFL | dvs that means i must make that dir or? |
| 13:44.59 | SoniCFL | extra package needa gets installed |
| 13:45.12 | dvs | SoniCFL: No extra packages, just make a link |
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| 13:45.15 | tchino | resuDaed: no fetchmail and exim4 |
| 13:45.21 | rjalex | how can I tell the mode in which my framebuffer is ? |
| 13:45.23 | yacyac | cool i got it |
| 13:45.25 | dvs | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-08-12 19:52 /etc/alternatives/cc -> /usr/bin/gcc |
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| 13:45.39 | Chainsaw_Master | Ararrrgh |
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| 13:45.43 | SoniCFL | how i do that dvs |
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| 13:45.45 | Chainsaw_Master | Maulkin, I've restarted my machine |
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| 13:45.52 | Chainsaw_Master | and now nothing works properly again |
| 13:45.53 | shingouz | @comfort Chainsaw_Master |
| 13:45.53 | ravenbird | There, there, Chainsaw_Master. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 13:45.54 | resuDaed | tchino, have you checked you exim4 config for anything related? |
| 13:46.00 | dvs | SoniCFL: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc /etc/alternatives/cc |
| 13:46.01 | achaoge | valdyn: Thank you, I'll check the bios. |
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| 13:46.19 | SoniCFL | will try it thx |
| 13:46.25 | Chainsaw_Master | I go ifconfig eth0 and get "Device not found" |
| 13:46.26 | dvs | no prob |
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| 13:46.36 | Chainsaw_Master | same for ifup, ifdown |
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| 13:46.39 | yacyac | koool |
| 13:46.44 | yacyac | thanx alot guys |
| 13:46.45 | Chainsaw_Master | and route |
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| 13:48.01 | SoniCFL | dvs it still gives the error |
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| 13:48.41 | dvs | SoniCFL: are you sure you have gcc installed? |
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| 13:49.07 | SoniCFL | gcc4.3 is installed |
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| 13:49.34 | EdLin | SoniCFL: there's no such thing as gcc 4.3 |
| 13:49.48 | resuDaed | Chainsaw_Master, it would appear that you network card hasn't been detected |
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| 13:50.24 | boguh | how can i unpack .7z files? |
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| 13:50.26 | SoniCFL | i mean 3.4 gcc-3.4 that one is installed with .apt-get install gcc-3.4 |
| 13:50.30 | resuDaed | Chainsaw_Master: do you have the correct modules installed? (or try ifconfig -a to show all configurable devices) |
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| 13:50.36 | pkern | Does anyone know how to shrink(!) a XFS filesystem? |
| 13:50.37 | valdyn | !info p7zip |
| 13:50.43 | dpkg | p7zip: (7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio), section utils, is optional. Version: 4.20-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1412 kB, Installed size: 3622 kB |
| 13:50.46 | resuDaed | pkern, : can't be done, only grow |
| 13:50.50 | valdyn | boguh: with that ^^^ |
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| 13:51.08 | resuDaed | pkern, : if you need a shrinking journalling fs, try reiser |
| 13:51.14 | cahoot | SoniCFL: maybe try the manpage for update-alternatives |
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| 13:51.32 | pkern | resuDaed: I had many bad experiences from reiser, but in fact I only forgot to create a swap partition. |
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| 13:51.42 | Chainsaw_Master | err... |
| 13:51.43 | Chainsaw_Master | sorry |
| 13:51.52 | SoniCFL | oki |
| 13:52.01 | Chainsaw_Master | eth0 just vanished into thin air :/ |
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| 13:52.15 | resuDaed | pkern, I have had bad experiences iwht reiser also, but I also had the bad experience of needing to shrink xfs |
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| 13:52.30 | resuDaed | pkern, create a swap file on you xfs mount |
| 13:52.56 | pkern | resuDaed: Good point. dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1M count=512, mkswap swapfile, swapon swapfile? |
| 13:53.05 | pkern | resuDaed: How to get the swapfile activated on boot? |
| 13:53.11 | Chainsaw_Master | it's as if everytime I reboot another part of my system dies |
| 13:53.11 | resuDaed | pkern, yes, then add to fstab |
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| 13:53.21 | pkern | resuDaed: Ah, thanks for your help. (o: |
| 13:53.26 | bob2 | if your interface isn't in the output of "ifconfig -a", something is fucked |
| 13:53.28 | Chainsaw_Master | eth0 just vanished into thin air :/ |
| 13:53.30 | Chainsaw_Master | it's as if everytime I reboot another part of my system dies |
| 13:53.30 | bob2 | e.g. the module is not loaded |
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| 13:53.37 | Morphje_ | i have a problem here. When i use my mysql manager for remote administration of my databases i use SSH tunneling. When i connect to one server i get access, but when i just change the passwords and ip adres for the other (all paswword are correct) i get connection refused for localhost.localdomain (i think that this localdomain thing is the problem, but i don'tknow how to fix it) |
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| 13:54.22 | bob2 | did you tell mysql to listen to the network? |
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| 13:54.35 | Morphje_ | well when i log in to that box with the user it works |
| 13:54.43 | Morphje_ | when i mysql -u root -p |
| 13:54.45 | Morphje_ | it works |
| 13:54.53 | Morphje_ | no direct connection to the database |
| 13:55.02 | Morphje_ | that's why i work with that ssh tunnel |
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| 13:55.38 | kewl-123 | what module should i use for nVidia nForce Networking Controller? |
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| 13:55.42 | CaT[tm] | morph: look in /etc/hosts and swap localhost and localhost.ld entires about |
| 13:55.46 | dvs | kewl-123: forcedeth |
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| 13:56.02 | kewl-123 | dvs: when i try it gives me some error |
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| 13:56.12 | dvs | kewl-123: It should print nothing |
| 13:56.25 | dvs | kewl-123: No such device? |
| 13:56.29 | kewl-123 | dvs: yeah |
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| 13:57.01 | dvs | kewl-123: that's the only driver I know of for the nvidia network driver. |
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| 13:57.19 | kewl-123 | =/ |
| 13:58.07 | SoniCFL | cahoot error is still there |
| 13:58.15 | bob2 | go nvidia, it's your birthday |
| 13:58.29 | bob2 | their IDE controller requires binary-only proprietary drivers to do TCQ, too |
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| 13:58.56 | StarZenD | when XF86 starts my monitor goes black and displays "frequency out of range error". i have looked through the XF86Config-4 and everything is correct |
| 13:59.02 | StarZenD | where should i look next? |
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| 13:59.14 | bob2 | it's not correct |
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| 13:59.18 | bob2 | the refresh rates are wrong |
| 13:59.36 | StarZenD | i know, but the ranges in the file are the same given in the monitor manual |
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| 14:00.32 | odine | can someone please assist with getting nvidia driver working with amd64 build? |
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| 14:00.54 | odine | getting dependency error when trying to install nvidia-glx |
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| 14:01.10 | bob2 | #debian-amd64 |
| 14:01.14 | odine | thanks |
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| 14:01.42 | StarZenD | when it goes blank, the freqency the monitor reports its trying to operate at (or thats what i think it is) is far below what it should be |
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| 14:01.57 | StarZenD | around 14khz, not the min of 30khz it should be |
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| 14:02.23 | cahoot | SoniCFL: ok -on my system /usr/bin/cc is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/cc which in it's turn is a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc |
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| 14:03.18 | SoniCFL | here is no cc in ./usr/bin/ |
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| 14:04.21 | SoniCFL | at ./etc/alternatives/ i have an cc |
| 14:04.29 | cahoot | SoniCFL: the dot is a typo I take it |
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| 14:10.15 | yang | Is someone using xmms-alarm ? |
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| 14:11.05 | theD3viL | have kde some kind of config? for fonts, GTK size etc... ? |
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| 14:11.32 | bob2 | #debian-kde |
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| 14:11.46 | yang | theD3viL: kde control center |
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| 14:16.29 | dkf | Hi, all. I'm having a rough time reconfiguring a Debian server, especially problems with "aptitude" |
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| 14:17.07 | mwilson | dfk: Everyone gets to guess, or will you be telling anyone? |
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| 14:17.47 | glm | don't use aptitude dkf, use apt-get (these frontends will handle dependencies a bit strange and not the all the same way) |
| 14:17.49 | dkf | I did a minimal install and want to get network management and x11 and gnu |
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| 14:17.53 | glm | dkf, what is the problem then? |
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| 14:18.15 | mwilson | glm: Exactly what is it that you think aptitude is a front-end for? |
| 14:18.16 | dkf | when I select a package and hit + and then g I get a window saying "No packages will be installed...." |
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| 14:18.44 | glm | mwilson, read the maintainer FAQ - these frontends differ from each other handling dependencies |
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| 14:18.58 | mwilson | glm: That's not what I asked you, is it? |
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| 14:19.10 | dkf | I'm not worried about the dependencies at this point, just getting packages installed so the machine is usable |
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| 14:19.24 | glm | dkf, what is then the problem? |
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| 14:19.35 | dkf | how do I get it to install something? |
| 14:19.43 | glm | apt-get install <something> |
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| 14:19.53 | dkf | ok, I'll try apt-get |
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| 14:19.55 | dkf | thanks |
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| 14:20.11 | glm | dkf, you can also try aptitude, but then ask users like mwilson :) |
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| 14:21.21 | mwilson | glm: Can't answer my very simple question, huh? |
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| 14:21.28 | SoniCFL | cahoot is there an package for cc maybe? |
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| 14:21.42 | glm | mwilson, exactly no |
| 14:21.58 | mwilson | glm: Then why did you say it? |
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| 14:22.06 | glm | mwilson, read my answer again |
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| 14:22.14 | glm | ...then you'll understand |
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| 14:22.44 | Caelum | SoniCFL: apt-get install build-essential |
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| 14:22.57 | mwilson | glm: Ah. I'll understand that you called aptitude a front-end, which it isn't, and that therefore you don't know what you're talking about. |
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| 14:23.17 | glm | mwilson, no exactly |
| 14:23.22 | SoniCFL | caelum that's what needs for cc |
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| 14:23.37 | cahoot | SoniCFL: what kind of system is this? |
| 14:23.38 | bob2 | glm, mwilson put each other on /ignore |
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| 14:23.52 | paulswm | !beer bob2 |
| 14:23.55 | mwilson | bob2: Oh, I already have. |
| 14:23.57 | SoniCFL | Debian 3.1 |
| 14:24.01 | bob2 | yay |
| 14:24.05 | orchid | what is the term for a high-level interface to the package manager, if not frontend? |
| 14:24.05 | glm | glm - no why? I don't want to ignor mwilson, just don't want talk with him |
| 14:24.10 | bob2 | SoniCFL: who trashed your system? |
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| 14:24.38 | mwilson | orchid: That WOULD be the term, except that that's not what aptitude is, either. |
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| 14:24.57 | orchid | then the man page is inccorrect |
| 14:24.59 | khanman | im getting an error when i try to run 'make xconfig' or 'make menuconfig"......using etch w/ 2.6.8 kernel...there error is "error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration" |
| 14:25.03 | mwilson | orchid: Aptitude *is* the package manager. Well, one of them, there being several. |
| 14:25.12 | timgoh0 | mwilson: If you would take a look at the aptitude frontpage at http://aptitude.sourceforge.net/, you will see that it calls itself a front-end. |
| 14:25.20 | Langly2 | Wonder how long my laptops battery is going to hold out while using wifi |
| 14:25.43 | m2 | mwilson: uhm... no, dpkg is the package manager... aptitude just tells it what to do. |
| 14:25.48 | khanman | im trying to compile the madwifi driver for my compaq evo n610c |
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| 14:26.03 | atheus | i have 2 interfaces, can i set gateways for both? trying this seems to break routing... running sarge btw... |
| 14:26.09 | Langly2 | aptitude is exactly what it takes to use aptitude |
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| 14:26.16 | bob2 | Langly2: I get ~4 hours |
| 14:26.18 | m2 | khanman: you have a line number? |
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| 14:26.30 | Caelum | khanman: what version of gcc are you using? |
| 14:26.32 | bob2 | khanman: what does compiling madwifi have to do with compiling a kernel? |
| 14:26.35 | SoniCFL | <bob2> SoniCFL: who trashed your system? <-- what you mean with that? |
| 14:26.36 | mwilson | (I don't know why I bother) |
| 14:26.43 | m2 | khanman: you can just search for the declaration of the function and remove the static keyword |
| 14:27.01 | bob2 | SoniCFL: someone killed your system |
| 14:27.08 | bob2 | SoniCFL: assuming you have build-essential installed |
| 14:27.19 | khanman | i upgraded to the latest of everything in testing so its 4.xx i guess |
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| 14:27.45 | khanman | scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration |
| 14:27.45 | khanman | scripts/kconfig/lkc.h:63: error: previous declaration of 'current_menu' was here |
| 14:27.45 | khanman | make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/mconf.o] Error 1 |
| 14:27.45 | khanman | make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 |
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| 14:27.50 | SoniCFL | when i use make for something i get this error: make: cc: Command not found |
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| 14:28.05 | caphuso | SoniCFL: install the build-essential package |
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| 14:28.22 | Caelum | khanman: you could try setting CC= to an earlier version and see if that helps |
| 14:28.23 | khanman | sorry it was only 3 lines |
| 14:28.33 | Caelum | khanman: or just fix the source, like m2 said |
| 14:28.37 | SoniCFL | i did then this happens: |
| 14:28.37 | SoniCFL | Setting up dpkg-dev (1.10.28) ... |
| 14:28.37 | SoniCFL | Setting up libstdc++5-3.3-dev (3.3.5-13) ... |
| 14:28.37 | SoniCFL | Setting up g++-3.3 (3.3.5-13) ... |
| 14:28.37 | SoniCFL | Setting up g++ (3.3.5-3) ... |
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| 14:29.02 | bob2 | is it idiot day? |
| 14:29.04 | bob2 | oh, sunday |
| 14:29.14 | Revenger | Setting up brain ........... not found. |
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| 14:29.33 | SoniCFL | i installed gcc and the, apt-get install build-essential |
| 14:29.40 | SoniCFL | but make still gives that error |
| 14:29.43 | khanman | caelum, i thought of doing that..but how old of a version should i try? i read that you really should use like 2.9xx or something...and im affraid of breaking stuff if i try to install a really old version |
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| 14:30.01 | bob2 | khanman: you shouldn't be running menuconfig at all there |
| 14:30.08 | khanman | and im no coder so im unable to fix the source :) |
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| 14:30.21 | mwilson | It looked more like he was trying to use xconfig? |
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| 14:30.23 | Caelum | khanman: nothing will break, you can have multiple versions of gcc installed on the same system |
| 14:30.23 | khanman | well i tried xconfig as well |
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| 14:30.35 | khanman | i get similar errors when i run either told |
| 14:30.37 | Caelum | you don't do that in a module directory |
| 14:30.37 | khanman | tool |
| 14:31.00 | khanman | did it in the /usr/src/linux/ dir |
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| 14:31.10 | mwilson | khanman: <sigh> What kernel version? |
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| 14:31.16 | khanman | 2.8.6 |
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| 14:31.32 | bob2 | khanman: you don't need to do either |
| 14:31.34 | mwilson | Which, as documented, does not build with gcc 4.x |
| 14:31.35 | khanman | 2.8.6-2-686 |
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| 14:31.41 | bob2 | khanman: and stop messing with the kernel source at all |
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| 14:31.58 | bob2 | sudo aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 14:32.06 | mwilson | khanman: And no, it might be 2.6.8, but certainly isn't 2.8.6 |
| 14:32.25 | khanman | right 2.6.8.* |
| 14:32.28 | khanman | sorry |
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| 14:32.54 | khanman | i copied my /boot/config* to /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 14:33.19 | khanman | and wanted to make sure that the module was built with the settings that i want in the kernel |
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| 14:33.33 | mwilson | khanman: You can say all you like, instead of listening to bob2, but that won't change the fact that you can't build 2.6.8 with gcc 4.x |
| 14:33.36 | bob2 | so |
| 14:33.40 | bob2 | again |
| 14:33.43 | bob2 | stop building the kernel |
| 14:33.46 | bob2 | since it's not going to work |
| 14:33.49 | bob2 | and isn't neccessary |
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| 14:34.28 | khanman | well trying to build the madwifi module against the clean source tree isnt working either |
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| 14:34.48 | bob2 | shockingly |
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| 14:34.53 | mwilson | You're STILL not listening. |
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| 14:35.01 | khanman | im trying to :) |
| 14:35.05 | bob2 | no, you're not |
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| 14:35.06 | yarko | what is the simplest way to split a patch (diff file) into a set of files per each "patched" file? |
| 14:35.09 | bob2 | 00:31:41 bob2 | khanman: and stop messing with the kernel source at all |
| 14:35.10 | mwilson | No, you're not... not in the least. |
| 14:35.12 | bob2 | 00:31:57 bob2 | sudo aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 14:35.16 | bob2 | 00:33:43 bob2 | stop building the kernel |
| 14:35.16 | bob2 | 00:33:46 bob2 | since it's not going to work |
| 14:35.16 | bob2 | 00:33:49 bob2 | and isn't neccessary |
| 14:35.26 | bob2 | 00:26:32 bob2 | khanman: what does compiling madwifi have to do with compiling a kernel? |
| 14:35.28 | khanman | you gonna flame me or help me? |
| 14:35.30 | bob2 | etc |
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| 14:35.38 | bob2 | khanman: for fuck's sake |
| 14:35.41 | bob2 | 00:35:10 bob2 | 00:31:57 bob2 | sudo aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 14:35.42 | mwilson | You ignore people trying to help you. |
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| 14:35.45 | bob2 | khanman: that is the solution |
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| 14:35.51 | bob2 | khanman: go away, do thsat, come back |
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| 14:36.17 | mwilson | !sunday |
| 14:36.17 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 14:36.19 | khanman | im not tring to compile the kernel..im just trying to set the config in the kernel source tree b4 compiling the madwifi module against it...is that wrong? |
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| 14:36.30 | azeem | khanman: yes |
| 14:36.33 | khanman | ok |
| 14:36.37 | khanman | then ill stop |
| 14:36.39 | khanman | :) |
| 14:36.44 | bob2 | 00:35:41 bob2 | 00:35:10 bob2 | 00:31:57 bob2 | sudo aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 14:36.56 | khanman | but im just following the dox from the marlow site |
| 14:37.00 | mwilson | Unlikely. |
| 14:37.00 | bob2 | which are wrong |
| 14:37.03 | bob2 | so ignore them |
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| 14:37.37 | yarko | nevermind -- splitdiff does the trick ;-) |
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| 14:38.29 | khanman | http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi is the url for the docs im using |
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| 14:38.41 | azeem | 16:31 < bob2> which are wrong |
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| 14:39.20 | bob2 | 00:36:44 bob2 | 00:35:41 bob2 | 00:35:10 bob2 | 00:31:57 bob2 | sudo aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 14:39.27 | tchino | resuDaed: i have to set my exim4 with #exim-channel- help |
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| 14:39.43 | Caelum | khanman: try make oldconfig |
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| 14:39.48 | bob2 | Caelum: holy fuck |
| 14:39.50 | odine | un1fortuantly im stuck using an annyoing mS el1ite keyboard and im get1ting setcode errors h1ow can i fix this? |
| 14:39.56 | bob2 | stop leading people down the garden path |
| 14:40.00 | khanman | caelum i did that to |
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| 14:40.05 | Caelum | heh |
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| 14:40.18 | bob2 | I've told you the solution 5 times now |
| 14:40.33 | SoniCFL | make: cc: Command not found, this is wierd, i installed the packages you guys said but it still shit ;p |
| 14:40.43 | khanman | bob2 00:36:44 bob2 | 00:35:41 bob2 | 00:35:10 bob2 | 00:31:57 bob2 | sudo aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) ???? |
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| 14:41.00 | bob2 | SoniCFL: someone with root trahsed your system |
| 14:41.01 | khanman | didnt prefix that msg with my name...didnt know if you were talking to me |
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| 14:41.07 | bob2 | which is a polite way of saying that you broke it |
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| 14:41.40 | SoniCFL | oh hmz so only way is to reinstall deb, and install the packages you guys have said |
| 14:41.59 | SoniCFL | so i do then apt-get install gcc and apt-get install build-essential |
| 14:42.09 | SoniCFL | then i do ln -s /usr/bin/gcc /etc/alternatives/cc |
| 14:42.14 | SoniCFL | then i should work? |
| 14:42.27 | Caelum | E: Couldn't find package brain |
| 14:42.29 | Caelum | :( |
| 14:42.33 | bob2 | SoniCFL: no |
| 14:42.38 | bob2 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2004-12-14 23:47 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-3.3 |
| 14:42.39 | mwilson | SoniCFL: Who told you to make any sort of symlinks? |
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| 14:43.16 | SoniCFL | <dvs> SoniCFL: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc /etc/alternatives/cc said that to me |
| 14:43.17 | mwilson | SoniCFL: Especially into the alternatives system, which gcc does not use. |
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| 14:43.47 | SoniCFL | so no symlink creation at all |
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| 14:43.58 | bob2 | wtf |
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| 14:44.52 | SoniCFL | bob2: SoniCFL: no so what i needa do only apt-get install gcc ? |
| 14:44.57 | borgasman | "nvidia 7800 doesnt work" so LAME ROFTLOL » http://systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=178 |
| 14:44.58 | bob2 | wtf |
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| 14:45.19 | bob2 | caphuso: I need a new irssi module |
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| 14:45.23 | khanman | bob2, did you want me to 'aptitude install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)' ? |
| 14:45.30 | bob2 | caphuso: it checks the date, and if it's sunday, just stops be using IRC at all |
| 14:45.34 | bob2 | khanman: holy fuck |
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| 14:45.36 | caphuso | bob2: hehe |
| 14:45.38 | bob2 | khanman: yes |
| 14:45.41 | khanman | tnx |
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| 14:45.59 | khanman | i know you are helping others and wasnt sure if that was for me |
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| 14:47.13 | caphuso | bob2: wrapper shell script would be easier... [[ $(date +%a) == Sun ]] || irssi |
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| 14:47.24 | odine | how do i st1op the annoying setkey1code errors from po1pping up in console??1 |
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| 14:47.51 | bob2 | caphuso: it's inside screen and stays up for months, tho |
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| 14:48.02 | mwilson | You buy a decent keyboard, that doesn't produce them. |
| 14:48.06 | bob2 | maybe I should have a cronjob which delets my ssh key on sunday morning |
| 14:48.12 | bob2 | then reinstates it on monday |
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| 14:48.22 | odine | mwilson how bout a way aro1und not buying a new key1bopard |
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| 14:48.28 | odine | im sure there is1 a fix |
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| 14:48.46 | mwilson | odine: Sure. That's the fix. |
| 14:48.55 | odine | mwilson there i1s no other way??? |
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| 14:49.04 | mwilson | odine: Keyboard is broken, replace keyboard. |
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| 14:49.30 | ivens- | hi |
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| 14:49.42 | odine | ugh |
| 14:49.42 | mwilson | odine: If you get the same errors with another keyboard, then talk to us about there being something wrong in the software. |
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| 14:49.56 | ivens- | i've installed sarge right now...but my sources.list contains only the cdrom... |
| 14:50.04 | mwilson | odine: Elementary Troubleshooting 101 |
| 14:50.07 | ivens- | where can i find a good sources.list? :) |
| 14:50.20 | azeem | ivens-: apt-setup should produce one I think |
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| 14:50.41 | Bac9 | gdm does not show any users above gid1000 in the user browser, how can I fix this? (kdm has no problem showing all users) |
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| 14:51.04 | ivens- | yeah, it does :) |
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| 14:51.08 | ivens- | cheers azeem |
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| 14:51.23 | bob2 | Bac9: you're really having that problem on Debian and Ubuntu simulataneously? |
| 14:51.25 | bob2 | that's amazing |
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| 14:52.00 | Bac9 | bob2: I am having that problem on debian but ubunu uses gnome is a tad more active in this area |
| 14:52.08 | Bac9 | bob2: feel free to help though |
| 14:52.15 | bob2 | and both have entirely different gnome packages |
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| 14:52.46 | Bac9 | mwilson: I thought you were ignoring me |
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| 14:53.03 | Bac9 | bob2: that I did not know, but if it helps I am running etch |
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| 14:53.10 | ivens- | hm...and does anyone know the common fontpackets, i should install? |
| 14:53.27 | ivens- | because i have troubles reading some stuff |
| 14:53.29 | azeem | the bistream-vera stuff I guess |
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| 14:53.34 | azeem | bitstream, even |
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| 14:54.12 | Laibsch | Hi, upgrading my Debian testing after several weeks. I am quite excited to find out that xserver-xorg has finally made it into testing. Anything I should look out for when doing the upgrade from xfree86 to xorg? |
| 14:54.14 | khanman | bob2 so do i still need the older version of gcc to compile the module against the 2.6.8 source? |
| 14:54.21 | bob2 | holy fuck |
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| 14:54.30 | khanman | coz it aint working |
| 14:54.32 | bob2 | YOU DO NOT USE THE KERNEL SOURCE TO COMPILE MODULES |
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| 14:54.33 | bob2 | NOT EVER |
| 14:54.42 | khanman | ok |
| 14:54.45 | bob2 | NOT IN THIS UNIVERSE. NOT IN ANOTHER. NOT ANYWHERE. |
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| 14:54.55 | fhffhqvb | how about tasmania? |
| 14:54.56 | Bac9 | Laibsch: aside from xorg recomending discover1, the upgrade is pretty smooth |
| 14:55.07 | azeem | khanman: please read scrollback and check what bob2 said earlier. |
| 14:55.09 | Laibsch | Bac9: Cool. |
| 14:55.09 | bob2 | fhffhqvb: you marry your cousin, then compile it against the correct kernel-headers |
| 14:55.10 | khanman | well the docs told me to grab the souce and install it |
| 14:55.12 | Bac9 | bob2: kernel source does usually contain headders |
| 14:55.21 | khanman | azeem i have...and mostly he is yelling at me |
| 14:55.24 | bob2 | khanman: I've said 3 times now that they are wrong |
| 14:55.26 | candlelight | lol |
| 14:55.30 | khanman | oh |
| 14:55.38 | Laibsch | Bac9: What is the issue with discover1? |
| 14:55.42 | mwilson | And how many times have different people told you that the documentation you're following is wrong? |
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| 14:55.48 | bob2 | Bac9: which are not in a for mthat you can compile external modules against |
| 14:55.59 | khanman | can you help me to do it the right/debian way? i know its fun cursing at me..but i could use some help |
| 14:56.04 | mwilson | Oh, Bac9 is going on about discover again. |
| 14:56.04 | Bac9 | Laibsch: discover1 conflicts with discover2, if you don't have discover2 installed you don't care |
| 14:56.10 | khanman | and i have been trying to read documentation on it |
| 14:56.17 | bob2 | khanman: have you installed the headers yet? |
| 14:56.21 | khanman | yeah |
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| 14:56.28 | Bac9 | mwilson: were'nt you ignoring me? |
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| 14:56.38 | Laibsch | Should I drop out of X to do the upgrade from xfree8 to xorg? |
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| 14:57.04 | bob2 | khanman: then install the correct version of gcc, too |
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| 14:57.05 | khanman | bob2, yes i have |
| 14:57.07 | bob2 | or upgrade your kernel |
| 14:57.14 | bob2 | 2.6.8 is ooooooooooooooooooooooold |
| 14:57.16 | bob2 | Laibsch: no |
| 14:57.18 | mwilson | Bac9: Just can't accept the *maintainer* of the package when he tells you something about it, huh? At least you couldn't the other night, what with your "I treat Recommends like Depends" cr*p. |
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| 14:57.27 | Laibsch | Bac9: dpkg -l tells me I have the package discover 2.0.7-2.1 |
| 14:57.31 | Bac9 | Laibsch: just do it inside "screen" but unless you tell it to reboot xdm or somesuch I don't think it reboots, then again I did this remotly |
| 14:57.35 | khanman | ok....which would you suggest? kernel version i mean |
| 14:57.40 | khanman | 2.6.8-11 ? |
| 14:57.42 | bob2 | whatever is in etch |
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| 14:57.50 | khanman | thats what i have |
| 14:57.52 | Laibsch | OK, I am very excited about getting xorg. |
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| 14:57.54 | Bac9 | mwilson: are you grumpier than usual today? |
| 14:57.57 | Laibsch | Thanks guys. |
| 14:58.07 | Bac9 | Laibsch: enjoy |
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| 14:58.25 | Laibsch | Bac9: I always enjoy my Debian sessions ;-) |
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| 14:58.48 | khanman | my laptop has 2.6.8-2-386 installed on it..from a fresh netinstall |
| 14:58.54 | nathan__ | im offski bye the noooz |
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| 14:59.05 | Bac9 | Laibsch: :-) |
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| 14:59.39 | khanman | right now im on a desktop using the 2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 15:00.00 | mwilson | Bac9: You spent over a hour the other day proving to *gravity* that you didn't know anything about how X worked. Then you tried to tell him about discover, except he's the maintainer, and knows more about THAT than you do. |
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| 15:00.43 | cahoot | mwilson: what good is this? |
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| 15:01.06 | mwilson | cahoot: Just making a point... he's back on /ignore now. |
| 15:01.11 | Bac9 | mwilson: oh poor you had to listen through all that and didn't bother to just set ignore when you saw me, how pittifull |
| 15:01.14 | khanman | bob2, which version of gcc would you recomend i use then ? |
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| 15:01.24 | bob2 | so |
| 15:01.29 | bob2 | this is not about what I recommend |
| 15:01.35 | bob2 | it's about whatever your kernel was compiled with |
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| 15:02.04 | khanman | well on the netinstall it pulled in the gcc v 3.xx and 4.xx |
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| 15:02.09 | Bac9 | bob2: so any advice on gdm problem? |
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| 15:02.20 | khanman | guess the earlier versions were dependancies |
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| 15:02.37 | philipp_ | 'dh_link: Compatibility levels before 3 are deprecated.' what does that mean?? |
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| 15:03.31 | Py | is /var/lock cleaned at boot time on debian? |
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| 15:05.50 | khanman | bob2, on both machines i have gcc versions 3.3 and 4.0...thought i read somewhere that 2.95 was recommended....which should i use? |
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| 15:06.14 | philipp_ | 3.4 |
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| 15:06.39 | khanman | philipp_, you talking to me? |
| 15:06.52 | philipp_ | yeah |
| 15:06.54 | khanman | tnx |
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| 15:07.49 | khanman | so how do i get the correct version of gcc to run when i try to compile the module? should i unistall the others first? and wont that break stuff? |
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| 15:08.16 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | hi, does anybody have some free time to help me solving my problem? |
| 15:08.22 | Chameleon22 | what file do i need to edit to add a command that should be executed on boot ? |
| 15:08.27 | azeem | khanman: pass it along like gcc-3.4, or set the CC environment variable to gcc-3.4 |
| 15:08.30 | philipp_ | khanman: make CC='gcc-3.4' |
| 15:08.43 | Py | is /var/lock cleaned at boot time on debian? perhaps a stupid question |
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| 15:08.58 | azeem | [BSP]_Black_Spid: maybe somebody can, but you need to tell your problem first |
| 15:09.01 | piggybank | gcc34 is still unstable |
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| 15:09.11 | azeem | piggybank: uh? |
| 15:09.14 | khanman | thank you azeem and philipp_ |
| 15:09.19 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | I have succesfully compiled & installed kernel version 2.6.13 on debian 3.1 |
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| 15:09.23 | Bac9 | Chameleon22: add it to the apropriate runlevel with apropriate filename |
| 15:09.24 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | My problem is about usb wlan |
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| 15:09.36 | khanman | and bob2 too..you ornery SOB :) |
| 15:09.36 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | I also succesfully compiled the linux-wlan-ng 0.2.2 driver |
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| 15:09.47 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | I do things in this order: |
| 15:10.03 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1 |
| 15:10.16 | Chameleon22 | Bac9, rc*.d appear to need scripts that contain stop/start arguments ... i just want a simple command, or will it work if for example i just have "ls / > /tmp/test" |
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| 15:10.17 | piggybank | SOB? son of bush? |
| 15:10.20 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable |
| 15:10.25 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | anctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid=BSPNET authtype=opensystem |
| 15:10.28 | khanman | yeah something like that |
| 15:10.32 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 15:10.34 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | dhcpcd wlan0 |
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| 15:10.50 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | The driver works, so does the wlan card |
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| 15:11.02 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Only, how do i associate to the ap? |
| 15:11.09 | Bac9 | Chameleon22: the first letter of filename in rc*.d says if the script is gona be sent a stop or a start, the scipt can ignore if it wishes |
| 15:11.12 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | (I can find it using wlanctl wlan0 scan) |
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| 15:11.26 | Chameleon22 | Bac9, uhh ok cool |
| 15:11.29 | bowman | heya. anyone know how long it does/can take for a package to be moved from unstable to testing? case: gftp 2.0.18-6 in testing segfaults every few minutes, unstable contains 2.0.18-10 with the bug fixed according to the bts. |
| 15:11.38 | azeem | [BSP]_Black_Spid: doesn'Ät iwconfig work? |
| 15:11.57 | Bac9 | Chameleon22: just put it at apropriate place, the two digit number in the filename denotes in what order it'll execute |
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| 15:12.21 | Chameleon22 | Bac9, ye i know the structure, was just interested if stop or start would cause any issues |
| 15:12.23 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | iwconfig says 'SET failed by device wlan0: operation not supported' |
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| 15:12.54 | Bac9 | Chameleon22: nope, but you can expect those arguments as parameters to script |
| 15:12.56 | deeptaz | is there a special jdk for download in debian site |
| 15:12.56 | deeptaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.16 | Bac9 | deeptaz: gcj4.x |
| 15:13.43 | Bac9 | deeptaz: but it hasn't implemented every lib in java yet |
| 15:13.45 | deeptaz | bac9:what is the jdk version that it supports |
| 15:13.49 | Chameleon22 | Bac9, cool, thanks |
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| 15:14.19 | Bac9 | deeptaz: what ever it implemented, I am not quite sure, i think they aim for the highest but don't have everything implemented yet |
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| 15:14.37 | deeptaz | bac9:thks |
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| 15:15.49 | reter | ' |
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| 15:18.21 | ivens | ehm |
| 15:18.32 | ivens | how can i change the resolution of my monitor? |
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| 15:19.11 | raz0 | ivan, ctrl(+alt)+plus or minus |
| 15:19.18 | raz0 | ivens, that was for you. |
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| 15:19.34 | ivens | thank you |
| 15:19.34 | raz0 | And I am of course asuming you mean the X resolution. |
| 15:19.48 | raz0 | *assume |
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| 15:20.19 | ivens | yes, of course :) |
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| 15:23.47 | syntaxx | is there any virtual machine that is gpl? |
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| 15:23.55 | azeem | qemu? |
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| 15:26.41 | keton | i need help installing sarge with nvidia |
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| 15:27.01 | keton | ive tryed this |
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| 15:27.04 | keton | http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 15:27.06 | keton | wont work |
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| 15:27.43 | syntaxx | keton: whats the problem with that? it works on me |
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| 15:28.01 | keton | for me not |
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| 15:28.19 | keton | i got my distro from a magazine |
| 15:28.21 | syntaxx | keton: what did you do? using apt? |
| 15:28.23 | keton | linux mgazine |
| 15:28.30 | keton | yes |
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| 15:28.41 | syntaxx | keton: cant find the nvidia-kernel-source? |
| 15:28.43 | keton | i folowed the instructions |
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| 15:28.55 | keton | yeh |
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| 15:29.11 | syntaxx | keton: the nvidia is in testing.. u should have testing in /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 15:30.28 | keton | my linux partition is mounted in windows |
| 15:30.31 | keton | just cheaked |
| 15:30.35 | keton | not there |
| 15:30.56 | philipp_ | 'dh_link: Compatibility levels before 3 are deprecated.' what does that mean? |
| 15:30.59 | syntaxx | testing package? |
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| 15:31.33 | UnKnowN_ | How do you install bit torrent? |
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| 15:32.10 | Maulkin | UnKnowN_: apt-get install bittorrent |
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| 15:33.29 | keton | so back to my problem |
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| 15:33.39 | keton | i remember there was another way to intall it |
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| 15:34.28 | shastry | bob2: hey, are you the same bob i met a few years ago in the same channel where u helped me install alsa, if you are, then thanks a lot, i just felt like thanking whoever has helped me in the past :) |
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| 15:34.48 | Tatiana_stos | Good morning |
| 15:34.50 | pingouin | how do i stop the annoying Sep 11 17:33:13 localhost kernel: ip_local_deliver: bad skb: PRE_ROUTING LOCAL_IN LOCAL_OUT POST_ROUTING filling my log and detroy my console ? |
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| 15:35.29 | keton | hello |
| 15:35.32 | keton | anyone |
| 15:35.33 | pingouin | good evening Tatiana_stos ;) |
| 15:35.36 | keton | ? |
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| 15:35.43 | shastry | keton: what problem ? |
| 15:35.48 | syntaxx | keton: just put testing on sources.list |
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| 15:35.57 | shastry | if its not got something debian specific, i might be of some help |
| 15:35.57 | syntaxx | and follow the site |
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| 15:36.13 | Tatiana_stos | Hummm I am Braziliam |
| 15:36.16 | keton | how |
| 15:36.25 | shastry | Tatiana_stos: and i'm Indian :D |
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| 15:36.36 | shastry | so lets make some noise here, hehe |
| 15:36.36 | keton | do i put it on sources.list |
| 15:36.46 | Tatiana_stos | hummm cool |
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| 15:36.57 | pingouin | keton: what do you mean ? |
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| 15:37.25 | pingouin | keton: just edit you sources.list i guess to put what you need inside |
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| 15:37.47 | keton | im not getting a GUI cause i cant install the nivia driver |
| 15:37.51 | pingouin | with you're favorite text editor, vim i guess |
| 15:37.54 | keton | with |
| 15:38.00 | keton | what do i edit it with |
| 15:38.18 | pingouin | keton: you surely have vi |
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| 15:38.27 | keton | yeh yeh |
| 15:38.36 | keton | can i edit it in windows |
| 15:38.36 | shastry | keton: if you are a nub, try nano or something |
| 15:38.37 | pingouin | keton: you know how it's work ? |
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| 15:38.43 | pingouin | windows ?! |
| 15:38.48 | pingouin | what is that ?! |
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| 15:38.55 | keton | yeh i have it mounted |
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| 15:38.59 | keton | lol |
| 15:39.11 | UnKnowN_ | bit torrent wont work |
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| 15:39.20 | keton | there is one program that lets you mount ext |
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| 15:39.46 | pingouin | what os are you running ?! |
| 15:39.57 | keton | windows XP |
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| 15:40.07 | Maulkin | !tell UnKnowN_ about won't work |
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| 15:40.31 | UnKnowN_ | Why doesn't it? |
| 15:40.35 | UnKnowN_ | Azureus wont even work |
| 15:40.37 | pingouin | keton: sorry i can't tell you how edit .txt file from windows XP on ext part ... |
| 15:40.44 | lakcaj | keton, what kind of graphics card do you have? Have you tried the nv driver? |
| 15:40.44 | UnKnowN_ | I got right Java install |
| 15:40.45 | pingouin | keton: i absolutly dont know... |
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| 15:40.51 | pingouin | keton: but i'm sure there is tool |
| 15:40.53 | UnKnowN_ | It just fails |
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| 15:41.15 | pingouin | keton: hey something like putty maybe ?! |
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| 15:41.41 | keton | no i already have the program |
| 15:41.48 | pingouin | sorry.. |
| 15:41.52 | keton | paragon mount everything |
| 15:41.53 | pingouin | i thought |
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| 15:42.05 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | I was wondering about usb wlan |
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| 15:42.15 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | What do i have to do when i enabled my card? |
| 15:42.17 | pingouin | keton: why dont you reboot on you're linux ? |
| 15:42.20 | Maulkin | UnKnowN_: What does it fail with? What happens? What's the error? |
| 15:42.24 | pingouin | keton: then edit the file ? |
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| 15:42.35 | keton | ok |
| 15:42.38 | pingouin | keton: sorry i did not follow you're troubles from start |
| 15:42.41 | UnKnowN_ | well its right just stalling |
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| 15:42.49 | lakcaj | keton, why are you so sure you need nvidia's driver to get a gui? Again, did you try the nv driver? |
| 15:42.58 | keton | yes |
| 15:42.59 | session | how do I check which verision of glibc I use? |
| 15:43.02 | keton | didnt work |
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| 15:43.13 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | I have a problem with my USB WLAN card, i compiled the driver etc |
| 15:43.14 | Maulkin | keton: Why? |
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| 15:43.23 | keton | i dont know |
| 15:43.31 | Maulkin | keton: How do you know it didn't work then? |
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| 15:43.49 | keton | i would have had a GUI |
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| 15:43.53 | keton | and i dont |
| 15:43.54 | pingouin | keton: it's not a big deal at start if you're X doesnt work...you have to know a little in console to set it up, just cross the line ;) |
| 15:43.55 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Did: modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1 |
| 15:43.55 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | and |
| 15:43.58 | Maulkin | keton: What did you have instead? |
| 15:44.01 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable |
| 15:44.06 | pingouin | keton: nvidia/nv... should be pretty fast.. |
| 15:44.07 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid=BSPNET authtype=opensystem |
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| 15:44.13 | Maulkin | keton: What error messages were there? |
| 15:44.14 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | then: |
| 15:44.17 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 15:44.27 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Everything works, but i can't internet with it... |
| 15:44.33 | keton | i just didnt get a gui |
| 15:44.40 | keton | no errors no nothing |
| 15:44.48 | keton | i think |
| 15:44.51 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Anybody? |
| 15:45.02 | session | how do I check which verision of glibc I use? |
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| 15:45.07 | asg | session: gcc -v |
| 15:45.16 | session | asg, : thank you |
| 15:45.23 | asg | session: sorry, that was wrong |
| 15:45.27 | asg | session: dpkg -l libc6 |
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| 15:45.40 | Maulkin | keton: So, what happened? Exactly? |
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| 15:46.04 | keton | i dont know i need to go |
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| 15:46.09 | pingouin | [BSP]_Black_Spid: you're /etc/network/interfaces is ok ? |
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| 15:46.14 | UnKnowN_ | Finally I got the azureus error |
| 15:46.27 | keton | ive been =online for liek one hour now trying to get help |
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| 15:46.29 | pingouin | [BSP]_Black_Spid: with all the needed parameters according you're need/ispn |
| 15:46.30 | keton | bywe |
| 15:46.31 | UnKnowN_ | connection timed out |
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| 15:46.41 | UnKnowN_ | failed to start sockets |
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| 15:46.57 | pingouin | [BSP]_Black_Spid: also.. /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 15:47.21 | Maulkin | UnKnowN_: I think you have a firewall in the way |
| 15:47.24 | pingouin | [BSP]_Black_Spid: /etc/resolv.conf with dns of you're ispn.. |
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| 15:48.03 | pingouin | [BSP]_Black_Spid: then..cut you're network, /etc/init.d/networking stop and relaunch it /etc/init.d/networking start |
| 15:48.11 | UnKnowN_ | Nope |
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| 15:48.21 | UnKnowN_ | I cleared the any routing |
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| 15:48.31 | UnKnowN_ | Its directly connected to a DSLAM |
| 15:48.39 | asg | solemnwarning: please turn that of. Thanks. |
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| 15:48.49 | asg | *off |
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| 15:49.08 | pingouin | asg...Above Stupid Geek ? ;) |
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| 15:49.35 | asg | pingouin: he's been told before |
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| 15:49.48 | pingouin | asg: i was joking... ;) |
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| 15:49.52 | pingouin | asg: nevermind.. |
| 15:50.09 | Maulkin | UnKnowN_: What's a DSLAM |
| 15:50.14 | asg | pingouin: my spelling is terrible today for some reason ;) |
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| 15:50.29 | pingouin | asg: girlfriend away ? ;) |
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| 15:50.53 | asg | pingouin: hah, no. Grading papers. |
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| 15:52.00 | ricky_clarkson | When you buy a laptop pre-installed with Windows XP, is it usually one big partition? The hard drive will be 80GB. |
| 15:52.28 | ricky_clarkson | Toshiba Tecra A4, if that helps at all. |
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| 15:52.38 | amphi | ricky_clarkson: mine was, as well as a 'hidden' restore partition |
| 15:52.41 | asg | ricky_clarkson: usually. Some enlightened vendors actually do a system and data partition. |
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| 15:53.01 | ricky_clarkson | So I'll need to get hold of Partition Magic again.. |
| 15:53.04 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: hp start selling full compatible linux laptop |
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| 15:53.26 | asg | ricky_clarkson: iirc, there is a CLI tool for XP that can resize partitions. |
| 15:53.29 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: without xp whith mandriva or multiboot XP/mandriva |
| 15:53.39 | ricky_clarkson | pingouin: What the?! |
| 15:53.48 | ricky_clarkson | asg: Any name? |
| 15:54.01 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: sorry i got the news in french only |
| 15:54.11 | asg | ricky_clarkson: I honestly can't remember it. It might be something you have to download from Microsoft. |
| 15:54.20 | ricky_clarkson | pingouin: Speak in French, rather than pigeon English. ;) |
| 15:54.40 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: my english is perfect ;) |
| 15:54.41 | cahoot | ricky_clarkson: I used bootITng to resize the ntfs |
| 15:54.47 | pingouin | session: isnt it ? :) |
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| 15:55.01 | pingouin | ooop session forget it was not 4 U |
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| 15:55.57 | paulswm | pingouin: A bit late, but when I see asg's nick, I'm reminded that ASG is the Univac 1100 series Exec 2 command to assign a file, carried forward to Exec 8 and OS1100, still living in the modern Unisys boxes in OS2200 |
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| 15:56.12 | ricky_clarkson | Apparently Windows XP's resizing thing is pretty limited. |
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| 15:56.22 | pingouin | paulswm: oh my god ;) i was joking ;) |
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| 15:56.26 | asg | paulswm: haha |
| 15:56.28 | pingouin | paulswm: uuhh ;) |
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| 15:57.16 | ricky_clarkson | Apparently QTParted, available in Knoppix, is good. |
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| 15:57.31 | asg | ricky_clarkson: it's just a QT frontend to gnu parted though right? |
| 15:57.39 | ricky_clarkson | Probably. |
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| 15:57.45 | ricky_clarkson | Can parted do the job? |
| 15:57.47 | pingouin | paulswm: how old are you ? ;) |
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| 15:57.52 | asg | ricky_clarkson: it might, can't hurt to look |
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| 15:58.02 | ricky_clarkson | pingouin: Twice as old as the average #debian user. |
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| 15:58.12 | pingouin | paulswm: you were there when they drop A bomb on hiroshima ? ;) |
| 15:58.23 | Caelum | paulswm: what OS did those unisys boxes use? |
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| 15:58.54 | paulswm | ricky_clarkson: You can resize an XP partition with ntfsresize, it is the best. You can get a rescue CD containing it from http://www.sysresccd.org - although the sysrescue CD is a gentoo build, it is an outstanding piece of work. I've used it to do exactly what ypu describe; in fact as the CD has network stuff on it, I used ntfsclone to back up the original partition to another box before resizing, the CD has nfs and samba on it so it' |
| 15:58.54 | paulswm | s easy to do that. |
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| 15:59.06 | ricky_clarkson | paulswm: I just found ntfsresize online, cool. |
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| 15:59.39 | paulswm | pingouin: I wrote my first computer program on paper tape in Ferranti Sirius Usercode in 1968 :) |
| 15:59.46 | ricky_clarkson | paulswm: So I need to burn two CDs - sysresccd and Sarge netinstall? |
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| 16:00.15 | asg | paulswm: wrote mine on a Timex Sinclair iirc |
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| 16:00.25 | paulswm | ricky_clarkson: Yes. You may often find the sysrecuecd useful, it is a n excellent administrator's tool, it is by far the best I've seen |
| 16:00.30 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: i got this : http://linuxfr.org/2005/07/31/19371.html there is one english link |
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| 16:00.50 | asg | Caelum: those were cool |
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| 16:01.13 | ricky_clarkson | pingouin: Does que mean 'what', like it does in Spanish? |
| 16:01.29 | asg | Caelum: we wrote a combat evaluation program for the Top Secret RPG on one of those. |
| 16:01.30 | Caelum | paulswm: does anyone still use unisys stuff? |
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| 16:01.38 | paulswm | asg: I remember the Sinclair. In fact, I remember the original HP programmable calculator in about 1974 I think and remember thinking how cool it was to have a programmable device with a massive 256 bytes of memory :) |
| 16:01.42 | Caelum | asg: cool :) |
| 16:01.44 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: link word |
| 16:01.44 | amphi | ricky_clarkson: yeah, sysresccd.org iso is excellent, and has a ppc port |
| 16:01.51 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: que je t'aime ;) |
| 16:02.05 | metaperl | how can I clear my machine's DNS cache? I pointed it at a domain before it existed and it keeps saying not found though it should be found now |
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| 16:02.17 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: sorry i dont talk spanish |
| 16:02.18 | asg | metaperl: it depends on the cache, which are you using? |
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| 16:02.24 | metaperl | www.metaperl.com already existed... I just created dev.metaperl.com .. |
| 16:02.31 | sleon | !+find rc4.h |
| 16:02.33 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 16:02.34 | metaperl | asg: i'm not running named apparently |
| 16:02.40 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'rc4.h' (4 of 12): (/usr/include/openssl/rc4.h) in libdevel/libssl-dev ;; (/usr/include/crypto++/arc4.h) in libdevel/libcrypto++-dev ;; (/usr/include/sfs-0.8pre/arc4.h) in libdevel/libsfs0-dev,libdevel/libsfs0c2-dev ;; (/usr/include/skalibs/rc4.h, /usr/include/diet/skalibs/rc4.h) in libdevel/skalibs-dev. |
| 16:02.42 | metaperl | asg: how would I find out? |
| 16:02.53 | asg | metaperl: dig domain (look near the bottom) |
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| 16:02.58 | Caelum | metaperl: DNS servers take time to propagate A record changes |
| 16:02.59 | asg | paulswm: :) |
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| 16:03.14 | Caelum | metaperl: if you're inpatient, you can add something to your /etc/hosts file in the meanwhile |
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| 16:03.45 | ricky_clarkson | pingouin: je ne voudrais pas Linux préinstallér, solo la flexibilitie des les partitions. |
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| 16:04.15 | paulswm | Caelum: Indeed, the Unisys boxes are outstanding transaction processors, they also have hybrids (NT/OS2200). One of our mainframes: we have 3000 online users, we process about 120 transactions per sec. A trnasaction may involve one of those users filling out a screen and hitting XMIT - the underlying program will do maybe 70 database lookups and 20 database updates, average response time for such a transaction when the box is fully load |
| 16:04.15 | paulswm | ed is 1.6 seconds. |
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| 16:04.25 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: ok, but..it's just mean that everything inside those kind of laptop is 100% linux compatible |
| 16:04.31 | metaperl | metaperl.com was already registered... I just created dev.metaperl.com and am handling that locally: here is output for dev.metaperl.org (which is fine) and dev.metaperl.com (which isn't) http://rafb.net/paste/results/8Wskko87.html |
| 16:04.36 | ricky_clarkson | Er, flexibilitie. |
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| 16:04.50 | pingouin | ricky_clarkson: and not some exotic card etc..that you'll have to wait 100 years to make them work with debian |
| 16:04.55 | Caelum | paulswm: and of course, they have a record-based FS. Nice :) |
| 16:04.59 | ricky_clarkson | pingouin: D'accord, merci beaucoup. J'ai un Toshiba Tecra A4 demanche. |
| 16:05.03 | cadu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.09 | cadu | !fr |
| 16:05.09 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 16:05.21 | pingouin | #debian-fr sucks |
| 16:05.22 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: how about people speaking shit french? |
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| 16:05.31 | ricky_clarkson | pingouin: Yeah, #linuxfr is better. |
| 16:05.36 | pingouin | oh my god ;) |
| 16:05.45 | pingouin | *-fr sucks ;) |
| 16:05.54 | ricky_clarkson | !pebbas |
| 16:05.55 | dpkg | Problem Exists Between Britain And Spain |
| 16:06.07 | cadu | eeeehhehe |
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| 16:06.24 | cadu | !jp |
| 16:06.24 | dpkg | somebody said jp was Japan |
| 16:06.28 | cadu | duh :) |
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| 16:06.42 | pingouin | -fr are always talking about the size of they dicks but generaly that's dont help |
| 16:07.01 | jvw | between britain and spain is mostly water, and a relatively small slice of france... |
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| 16:07.03 | cadu | pingouin: are you sure you joined #dEBIAN-fr ? |
| 16:07.04 | pingouin | et je peux le dire...j'suis «francais» ;) |
| 16:07.05 | ricky_clarkson | Ah. I thought it was the size of their garlic clove necklace. |
| 16:07.11 | pingouin | cadu: yeap ;) |
| 16:07.13 | cadu | pingouin: wasn't that dick-fr ? :P |
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| 16:07.31 | pingouin | cadu: long time ago now i dont put my keyboard there ;) |
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| 16:07.37 | ricky_clarkson | jvw: Not if you draw a line from Kent to Barcelona. |
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| 16:07.52 | pingouin | cadu: are you @ on #debian-fr ;) ? |
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| 16:07.59 | pingouin | cadu: you got a big one ? ;) |
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| 16:08.33 | jvw | ricky_clarkson: sure, but in general, 'between spain and germany' or 'between britain and italy' are *much* more accurate |
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| 16:08.41 | cadu | pingouin: if you're seeing a @ next to my nick you must be on drugs/alcohol/burned crt fumes |
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| 16:08.51 | cadu | Ç:) |
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| 16:09.22 | pingouin | cadu: naaah i've stoped drugs long time ago..and never drink any alcohol |
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| 16:09.48 | pingouin | cadu: and it was just a question |
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| 16:10.01 | cadu | pingouin: about the crt fumes ? :) |
| 16:10.18 | cadu | pingouin: i was being sarcastic, today is sunday ...it's day for being sarcastic (tm) |
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| 16:10.30 | ricky_clarkson | !permasunday |
| 16:10.30 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
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| 16:10.44 | pingouin | cadu: that's ok for me ;) |
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| 16:10.54 | pingouin | cadu: i like to be sarcastic |
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| 16:11.25 | cadu | ricky_clarkson: i really felt like it :) |
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| 16:11.32 | cadu | ricky_clarkson: time stands still in here :) |
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| 16:13.15 | ricky_clarkson | paulswm: What's the URL for sysreccd? |
| 16:13.21 | cadu | !sysreccd |
| 16:13.24 | cadu | ;) |
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| 16:15.09 | asg | Caelum: you could probably build a simple wrapper around make-kpkg with dialog(1) |
| 16:15.46 | cadu | !simple-wrapper-around-make-kpkg-with-dialog |
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| 16:15.53 | adrakoa | hi |
| 16:15.55 | cadu | ahhh! dpkg sucks :( |
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| 16:19.08 | HayArms | Hi all |
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| 16:19.37 | HayArms | I have Debian Sarge and I would like to have KDE 3.4.2 , there is a way to get it? |
| 16:19.37 | sleon | !+ find /etc/X11/X |
| 16:19.39 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 16:19.46 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/etc/X11/X' (2): (/usr/share/doc/sysprofile/examples/etc/X11/Xsession.sample) in admin/sysprofile ;; (/usr/share/doc/fai/examples/simple/files/etc/X11/XF86Config-4/DEMO, /usr/share/doc/fai/examples/advanced/files/etc/X11/XF86Config-4/{ATI_ACER|kueppers}) in admin/fai. |
| 16:19.47 | asg | HayArms: check with #debian-kde |
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| 16:20.23 | Caelum | asg: next time I think about jumping off a cliff, I'll do that instead :) |
| 16:20.33 | HayArms | Mmm |
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| 16:20.41 | HayArms | Thanks asg |
| 16:20.43 | asg | Caelum: hah, agreed |
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| 16:22.50 | xerophyte | does anybody know any good documentation or book which explain to recover data from the partition ? i mean metadata currupted partition |
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| 16:23.11 | Bimmerman | what is the command to list all runnings services puid? |
| 16:23.29 | asg | Bimmerman: ps aux |
| 16:23.30 | cadu | !anyone |
| 16:23.31 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 16:23.59 | Bimmerman | asg, it doesent work |
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| 16:24.10 | asg | Bimmerman: then you need to define what you mean by 'puid' |
| 16:24.16 | Bimmerman | asg, i remmeber it to be somehting ps -ls |
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| 16:24.43 | Bimmerman | asg, i just want the list so i know what to kill |
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| 16:25.05 | asg | Bimmerman: oh, just use pgrep or pkill |
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| 16:25.44 | xophEr | What program should I use to monitor my SSHd activity? |
| 16:25.46 | Bimmerman | asg, neither work... i just want the list that shows me each of the runnings applications puid so that i can kill them |
| 16:26.11 | ricky_clarkson | xophEr: cat |
| 16:26.13 | asg | Bimmerman: ps aux | awk '/foo/{print $2}' |
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| 16:26.45 | Bimmerman | asg, but non of your commands work! |
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| 16:27.01 | Bimmerman | it should be somethign easy like ps -lh or something |
| 16:27.05 | ricky_clarkson | Is the Sarge network install CD a full CD? |
| 16:27.09 | asg | Bimmerman: are you using debian? |
| 16:27.15 | Bimmerman | asg, yes |
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| 16:27.43 | pirre | Bimmerman: have you tried 'man ps' ? |
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| 16:28.01 | asg | Bimmerman: then wtf does 'puid' mean to you? all of the commands I gave you return a list of pids of processes based on some regex (foo being the regex in my examples) |
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| 16:28.33 | asg | pirre: if he had, he wouldn't be in here asking |
| 16:28.37 | Bimmerman | asg, o there is something wrong with the terminal it doesent accept anything... sorry man |
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| 16:29.02 | asg | Bimmerman: try CTRL+Q (you might have accidentally frozen it with CTRL+S) |
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| 16:29.53 | Bimmerman | asg, ps -la was what is was looking for, thanx |
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| 16:30.36 | pirre | How can i kill defunct processes? For instance, I have a process called "xsensors <defunct>" which I cannot kill |
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| 16:30.40 | sleon | !+find fonts/misc |
| 16:30.42 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 16:30.50 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'fonts/misc' (6 of 39): (/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xtel.alias) in comm/xtel ;; (/etc/X11/fonts/misc/bitchx.alias) in net/bitchx ;; (/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-ay.alias) in x11/xfonts-ay ;; (/etc/X11/fonts/misc/nex6x10.alias) in x11/xfonts-nexus ;; (/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-jmk.alias) in x11/xfonts-jmk ;; (/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-kapl.alias) in x11/xfonts-kapl. |
| 16:30.55 | Zap-W | does anyone how to reverse an applied patch? , unpatch |
| 16:30.56 | asg | pirre: kill the parent or, if it's a zombie, you can't without a reboot |
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| 16:31.05 | pirre | asg: okay. |
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| 16:31.10 | asg | Zap-W: -R |
| 16:31.20 | sleon | !+find fixed |
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| 16:31.22 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'fixed' (3): python-fixedpoint ;; python2.2-fixedpoint ;; python2.3-fixedpoint. |
| 16:31.25 | asg | sleon: /msg the bot |
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| 16:31.39 | shingouz | sleon: /msg dpkg instead of doing that in the channel please |
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| 16:34.21 | Zap-W | asg: does it work? |
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| 16:34.46 | azeem | Zap-W: -R works for me |
| 16:34.48 | reezeh | can anyone help me with a sources.list question? |
| 16:35.01 | Maulkin | reezeh: Probably, just ask the question |
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| 16:35.56 | reezeh | ok... i want to add this to my sources: http://cslug.linux.it/cslug/kvirc/sarge/ (optional + net i think) but synaptic is having none if it |
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| 16:36.38 | Maulkin | reezeh: By the looks of that URL, it's not a debian repository |
| 16:36.42 | franck | bonjour a tous |
| 16:36.44 | azeem | reezeh: "deb http://cslug.linux.it/cslug/kvirc/sarge/ ./" |
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| 16:36.50 | azeem | should work |
| 16:36.59 | reezeh | azeem, ty |
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| 16:37.44 | leOn | anyone knows if it's possible to restrict a boot option with a password in pxelinux, kinda like it's done in lilo/grub ? |
| 16:37.48 | Maulkin | ahh, yeah, that would work :) |
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| 16:38.48 | asg | Zap-W: it should |
| 16:39.21 | asg | Zap-W: also, patch is smart enough to prompt you to reverse a patch if you apply a patch to already patched code. |
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| 16:39.42 | bomb | yo, check this out, i get the following error when i run make: |
| 16:39.45 | bomb | In file included from <command line>:8: djplay.h:6:21: qdialog.h: No such file or directory |
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| 16:40.01 | bomb | i have verified that qdialog.h is actually in path that i set the QTDIR environment variable to, so why doesn't make finding it? |
| 16:40.01 | azeem | bomb: install the package which contains that file |
| 16:40.03 | asg | bomb: /msg dpkg compile kde stuff |
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| 16:40.14 | paulswm | ricky_clarkson: Sorry, was afk, URL is http://www.sysresccd.org/ |
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| 16:40.19 | bomb | asg: it's already installed |
| 16:40.22 | bomb | errr |
| 16:40.26 | bomb | azeem |
| 16:40.26 | asg | bomb: or /msg dpkg search (and find which package contains qdialog.h) |
| 16:40.39 | azeem | bomb: maybe it's <foo/qtdialog.h>, and you set QTDIR to foo |
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| 16:40.50 | bomb | asg: even if i can already see qdialog.h? |
| 16:40.50 | azeem | bomb: check the source in djplay.h |
| 16:41.00 | bomb | alright |
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| 16:41.23 | asg | bomb: then, if you used ./configure already and it failed before you installed the -dev package, try make clean or make distclean and rerun ./configure |
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| 16:41.56 | asg | bomb: in the event that non of that works, a common occurence with anything KDE related, consult the fine folks in #debian-kde |
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| 16:42.07 | bomb | well, ./configure would not finish completely until i set the QTDIR environment variable and then logged out and back in |
| 16:42.44 | asg | bomb: when you run it, though, it caches what it found and also what it didn't find. removing that cache is important if you and build-deps after running the script. |
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| 16:42.47 | reezeh | hmm azeem it kind of works but still doesn't get me ver 3.2 ... just an old 2.3 (though 3.2 is in the listing in the webpage) |
| 16:42.55 | bomb | ah ok, i did not know that |
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| 16:43.31 | azeem | reezeh: after a successful apt-get update? |
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| 16:43.43 | reezeh | used synaptic |
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| 16:44.11 | azeem | you need to refresh then |
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| 16:45.10 | reezeh | tried refresh - just gave 2.3.2.0.sarge.1 |
| 16:45.10 | raden | Anyone have any Idea why Kopete would keep loosing my connection to yahoo ever 30 seconds, I looged on on the XP box and its fine and kopete was working fine for last few days |
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| 16:45.40 | azeem | reezeh: sorry, no idea then |
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| 16:46.26 | reezeh | azeem, thanks anyway |
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| 16:50.48 | reezeh | azeem: it worked... just that synaptic might be mis-reporting the version - but i tried an apt-get upgrade KVirc - so deffo seems alright now ty |
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| 16:51.19 | marcot | Hello, When I click in a mp3 file link in epiphany, it says that there's no app to run it and ask me for downloading. When I download, and double click the mp3 file, it opens totem. |
| 16:51.26 | marcot | How can I configure epiphany to open totem without asking for downloading? |
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| 16:52.25 | sweetbret | any 1 ever get Debian running within qemu on a windows machine? |
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| 16:53.57 | Caelum | sweetbret: it's called colinux, www.colinux.org |
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| 16:54.43 | Phr0zenKore | hi all |
| 16:54.50 | Phr0zenKore | i have problems with X |
| 16:54.58 | Phr0zenKore | it says "No screens found" |
| 16:55.01 | ricky_clarkson | Is there still a netinstall CD, or should I just use the first CD of sarge? |
| 16:55.05 | ricky_clarkson | !no screens found |
| 16:55.06 | dpkg | no screens found is NOT a useful message - it means XFree86 has a problem SOMEWHERE with SOMETHING. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log more closely, and look for the REAL error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
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| 16:55.36 | sward | !netinstall |
| 16:55.36 | dpkg | netinst is probably a small cd or set of floppy images which install the base Debian system. For sarge, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ For boot floppies see http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ For etch see http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/etch_d-i/i386/current/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso for x86, or see dialup install. Also see d-i. |
| 16:55.40 | Phr0zenKore | alright thnx RichiH |
| 16:55.50 | ricky_clarkson | He gets all the credit.. |
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| 16:56.07 | Phr0zenKore | (EE) No devices detected |
| 16:56.16 | ricky_clarkson | !drxx Phr0zenKore |
| 16:56.17 | dpkg | Phr0zenKore: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:56.25 | cadu | !dialup-install |
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| 16:56.30 | cadu | !dialup install |
| 16:56.30 | dpkg | [dialup install] 64kbps are 650MB per day, or ~1.2GB installed size, maybe more than you will ever have installed at once. You will wait few hours for the install to complete, but shuffling those 5290280948 CDs testing has now will probably take even longer, and can't be run unattended. The 1st binary CD is more than you need. See netinst. |
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| 16:56.34 | Phr0zenKore | ricky_clarkson: already did that |
| 16:56.46 | ricky_clarkson | Phr0zenKore: Try an svga driver. |
| 16:56.49 | ricky_clarkson | Or vga. |
| 16:56.52 | Phr0zenKore | alright |
| 16:56.53 | Phr0zenKore | i tried ATI |
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| 16:56.56 | Phr0zenKore | ain't it good? |
| 16:57.00 | Phr0zenKore | i have an ATI Radeon |
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| 16:57.02 | Phr0zenKore | 2900 |
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| 16:57.21 | ricky_clarkson | Phr0zenKore: Have you ever edited your X configuration manually? |
| 16:57.36 | Phr0zenKore | ricky_clarkson: yup, just switched from Gentoo to Debian |
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| 16:57.58 | ricky_clarkson | Phr0zenKore: Have you ever edited your X configuration manually on Debian? |
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| 16:58.24 | ricky_clarkson | Phr0zenKore: Or did you copy your Gen2 config to Debian? |
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| 16:58.41 | Phr0zenKore | no ricky_clarkson |
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| 16:58.50 | Phr0zenKore | i did the config thing |
| 16:58.56 | Phr0zenKore | but...... it ain't working even with VGA |
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| 17:00.46 | Phr0zenKore | ricky_clarkson: i have an ATI Radeon 2900, so i selected that one, it doesn't work, VGA doesn't work either, where are the SVGA and XVGA options? |
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| 17:01.41 | Phr0zenKore | !help |
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| 17:03.12 | Phr0zenKore | ... ricky_clarkson? |
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| 17:03.23 | azeem | reezeh: it's probably not 2.3.2.0.sarge.1 but 2:3.2.0.sarge.1, the 2: in the front is a Debian-specific thing (an epoch) |
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| 17:03.38 | Phr0zenKore | can any1 help me with X? :o |
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| 17:03.54 | Phr0zenKore | "No screens found" "(EE) Device not detected" |
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| 17:04.51 | Phr0zenKore | hello? are you guys ignoring me? |
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| 17:05.15 | azeem | Phr0zenKore: maybe just nobody knows an answer |
| 17:05.33 | sward | Phr0zenKore: I'm not ignoring you.. but I don't have any useful input to give |
| 17:05.34 | Phr0zenKore | azeem: is this problem unknown? oO |
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| 17:06.06 | azeem | Phr0zenKore: "no device found" is a very general error message |
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| 17:06.10 | bomb | Phr0zenKore: did you edit your XF86Config-4/xorg.conf by hand, or not |
| 17:06.18 | bomb | i'm not sure what you said "no" to a minute ago |
| 17:06.18 | Phr0zenKore | bomb: n0pe |
| 17:06.27 | Phr0zenKore | i did it with the config thingy |
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| 17:06.38 | bomb | Phr0zenKore: what happens if you select 'vesa' when you reconfigure X |
| 17:06.45 | Phr0zenKore | let's se |
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| 17:06.46 | Phr0zenKore | see* |
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| 17:07.03 | c01100011 | just installed nvidia-kernel-modules and added compostite to my xorg.conf, everything works fine except #Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" , i understand that it is a hack and it may just not work but is there anything obvious i could have overlooked ? |
| 17:07.29 | Phr0zenKore | omfg |
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| 17:07.33 | Phr0zenKore | bomb: that works! |
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| 17:07.45 | sward | Phr0zenKore: Are there any warnings (WW) that may be releva.. oh |
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| 17:07.55 | Phr0zenKore | thanks all |
| 17:07.56 | Phr0zenKore | ^^ |
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| 17:08.47 | vividan | So I'm trying to compile my own kernel. I've done it plenty of times in debian, but for some reason on this fresh install I can't compile 2.4.26. Any ideas? |
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| 17:10.03 | sward | vividan: Plenty of ideas, "can't compile" is pretty broad.. |
| 17:10.41 | c01100011 | sorry if i am resending, my last one got lost in asee of entrys and exits, I just installed nvidia-kernel-modules and added compostite to my xorg.conf, everything works fine except #Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" , i understand that it is a hack and it may just not work but is there anything obvious i could have overlooked ? |
| 17:10.56 | sward | vividan: How are you compiling (with make-kpkg)? What error do you get? .. etc |
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| 17:11.05 | azeem | c01100011: I think you're on your own with composite |
| 17:11.05 | vividan | sward, `make dep` goes fine, but at `make bzImage` bombs out with source file errors |
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| 17:11.25 | vividan | sward, I'm compiling the kernel.org way |
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| 17:11.29 | Phr0zenKore | how do i remove KDE from my system? |
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| 17:11.46 | c01100011 | azeem- technichally, but sometimes you can snag a bite |
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| 17:12.09 | vividan | sward, I am not apposed to learning make-kpkg |
| 17:12.09 | azeem | c01100011: well, try again tomorrow, maybe somebody knows then |
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| 17:12.45 | c01100011 | azeem- best luck is around 3 am eastern us time |
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| 17:13.54 | sward | vividan: It has a quick 10 step (or something) guide to building the kernel in the package (kernel-package) |
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| 17:14.48 | sward | vividan: It's a long time since I have compiled the kernel at all, let alone a non-debian way :) |
| 17:14.49 | vividan | sward, yeah, trying it now. thanks for the hint |
| 17:15.17 | vividan | sward, hehe. when I started compiling kernels the debian way was.... it failed again |
| 17:15.24 | mouser25 | how does one add a module so that it starts at boot? I need to run the vortex module for my 3com card. |
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| 17:15.48 | Phr0zenKore | how can i remove KDE? |
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| 17:17.01 | sward | vividan: Source file errors again? |
| 17:17.02 | streuner | Phr0zenKore: /msg dpkg remove kde |
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| 17:17.19 | vividan | sward, yup |
| 17:17.22 | vividan | same ones |
| 17:17.26 | legba7 | mouser25, i would write the module in /etc/modules |
| 17:17.44 | sward | vividan: In Sarge? |
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| 17:18.01 | vividan | sward, that was using make-kpkg. trying to configure with kernel-packageconf |
| 17:18.26 | vividan | sward, testing |
| 17:18.31 | sward | vividan: The kernel has a bit of trouble with gcc-4.0 |
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| 17:19.00 | sward | I'd suggest CC=gcc-3.4 |
| 17:19.38 | Phr0zenKore | thnx streuner |
| 17:19.40 | Phr0zenKore | ^^ |
| 17:19.41 | Beers | in the stable release of debian... is there an issue with xf86 installation? because im missing "/usr/bin/X11/X" |
| 17:19.47 | Beers | :p |
| 17:19.51 | Phr0zenKore | so i can use dpkg for all my questions? |
| 17:20.00 | vividan | sward, whoa... there's a gcc 4.0 already? what happened to 3.0? |
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| 17:20.05 | streuner | Beers: heh |
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| 17:20.20 | cusco | Phr0zenKore: unless you have questions like "why do I exist" |
| 17:20.21 | vividan | sward, CC=gcc-3.4 where? a make file? |
| 17:20.27 | streuner | Phr0zenKore: not always ;-) |
| 17:20.27 | sward | vividan: Things moving fast? :) |
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| 17:20.43 | Beers | i installed the gnome packages via aptitude |
| 17:20.44 | sward | vividan: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
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| 17:20.53 | drac | Beers: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
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| 17:20.58 | sward | vividan: Something like that |
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| 17:21.26 | Phr0zenKore | -->dpkg<-- install irssi |
| 17:21.28 | Phr0zenKore | damn :( |
| 17:21.31 | vividan | sward, hehe, ah I see |
| 17:21.37 | streuner | Phr0zenKore: its a helpbot - not more and not less... |
| 17:21.46 | vividan | sward, thank you for your help. I may be back if that doesn't do it for me |
| 17:21.48 | Phr0zenKore | yea, so how do i get irssi on my system? |
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| 17:21.56 | drac | Phr0zenKore: apt-get install irssi-text |
| 17:21.57 | Beers | hmmm aptitude doesnt always work well does it? |
| 17:22.02 | streuner | Phr0zenKore: apt-get install irssi-text |
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| 17:22.04 | drac | Beers: why do you say that? |
| 17:22.14 | drac | Beers: gnome doesn't depend on X |
| 17:22.20 | streuner | Phr0zenKore: /msg dpkg search |
| 17:22.21 | Beers | cause i tried to install that package and it said it was already isntalled |
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| 17:22.37 | drac | Beers: well, /usr/X11R6/bin/X |
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| 17:22.47 | borg | hi |
| 17:22.49 | witch | hi |
| 17:22.49 | Beers | hehe |
| 17:22.58 | Phr0zenKore | i'm beginning to like debian.. |
| 17:23.01 | borg | can anybody help me with my acer notebook ..? |
| 17:23.04 | witch | i love debian myself |
| 17:23.06 | Phr0zenKore | it's apt-get is more powerful than emerge |
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| 17:23.21 | drac | !start a distro war |
| 17:23.21 | dpkg | Fedora 0wnz! |
| 17:23.22 | Eddie | anyone wanna help me with configuring samba? |
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| 17:23.26 | borg | have debian installed and the videocrad is only running on 800x600 |
| 17:23.29 | Eddie | im kind of stuck -_- |
| 17:23.37 | witch | i am stuck too |
| 17:23.42 | streuner | Phr0zenKore: many people like debian, most developers use it. |
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| 17:23.51 | Beers | apt-get is awesome.... gentoo's emerge is good too, but compiling everything is really slow |
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| 17:24.00 | witch | apt-get beats emerge in sane default configurations |
| 17:24.14 | borg | if it's an easy samba prob, may i can help .. |
| 17:24.16 | streuner | !gentoosmite foo |
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| 17:24.40 | borg | is there some more conf.tool like xf86config .. |
| 17:24.42 | borg | ? |
| 17:24.45 | witch | i can't ping my windows box from debian |
| 17:24.48 | ke6isf | !drxx borg |
| 17:24.49 | dpkg | borg: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 17:24.59 | borg | tried it, but's not working |
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| 17:25.11 | Phr0zenKore | lol streuner |
| 17:25.11 | borg | ah ok, 'll try it .. |
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| 17:25.19 | Phr0zenKore | !gentoosmite fluxbox |
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| 17:25.26 | streuner | witch: then you boxes aren't physically connected |
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| 17:25.57 | streuner | witch: check the cables and hub, switches |
| 17:25.59 | Beers | heh after i get this finally working... i need to modify everything so it boots asap... thats gonna be fun! |
| 17:26.02 | Eddie | i have set a password using smbpasswd for my samba machine but when i try and access it from my windows computer it wont let me in |
| 17:26.04 | witch | streuner - what is so strange is i can ping eth1 but debian says it cant be brought up at boot |
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| 17:26.38 | vividan | sward, when did this whole gcc 4.0 thing happen? |
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| 17:27.05 | borg | dpkg: it's not knowing the command |
| 17:27.11 | sward | vividan: recently |
| 17:27.14 | witch | streuner - it says network is unreachable failed to bring up eth1 when i restart networking |
| 17:27.15 | borg | do i have to apt it bevor ..? |
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| 17:27.23 | sward | vividan: It has been in unstable for a bit |
| 17:27.25 | vividan | sward, ok, so I havn't been under the rock for too long :) |
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| 17:27.27 | borg | it's a tool ..? |
| 17:27.30 | ke6isf | borg: dpkg is a bot, sir. |
| 17:27.39 | ke6isf | borg: What are you having trouble with? |
| 17:27.45 | streuner | witch: man interfaces, /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 17:27.52 | vividan | sward, I didn't have gcc-3.4, but I did have 3.3 so I'm using that now and it apears to be working |
| 17:28.00 | quittt | can someone take a look at my dmesg? |
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| 17:28.07 | quittt | I am having some strange things |
| 17:28.43 | witch | streuner /etc/network interfaces has static ip on eth1 |
| 17:28.59 | borg | ok *g*, my video card is not changing to 1024xN, also it's only offering 800x600 in the config tool from kde .. |
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| 17:29.04 | borg | xf86 does not work |
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| 17:29.20 | ke6isf | borg: And you've run the dpkg-reconfigure command already? |
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| 17:29.32 | streuner | witch: check out /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ |
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| 17:30.11 | borg | yes, but the system did know it . |
| 17:30.18 | borg | did not know it .. |
| 17:30.20 | flawd | for some reason, my sources.list on one box had a testing entry so when I upgraded I got testing. Now it says "testing/unstable" when I login. I just remove the testing entry in sources.list. Can I somehow "downgrade" to sarge again? |
| 17:30.35 | sward | borg: As root? |
| 17:30.37 | streuner | flawd: no |
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| 17:30.48 | borg | root an user |
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| 17:31.02 | bomb | borg: you didn't forget to restart X after reconfiguring, did you. |
| 17:31.07 | ke6isf | borg: Did you hand-edit the config file or use XF86config? |
| 17:31.10 | streuner | flawd: desktop? just run etch |
| 17:31.22 | borg | xf86.. |
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| 17:31.34 | borg | did no reboot, because there happend nothing *g* |
| 17:31.35 | ke6isf | *sigh* |
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| 17:31.40 | flawd | streuner, ? Desktop? |
| 17:31.59 | ke6isf | !tell borg -about xmd5 |
| 17:32.12 | bomb | borg: you don't need to reboot after reconfiguring X, just restart X |
| 17:32.18 | streuner | flawd: only as desktop-system or as server |
| 17:32.22 | ke6isf | borg: Follow those instructions, rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and restart your X server. |
| 17:32.28 | Spherical` | ctrl + backspace |
| 17:32.35 | flawd | streuner, it is a desktop system. |
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| 17:32.48 | flawd | streuner, why does it matter if I may ask? |
| 17:33.26 | flawd | streuner, is etch testing? |
| 17:33.29 | streuner | flawd: stable has security fixes and is very stable |
| 17:33.33 | streuner | yes |
| 17:33.33 | flawd | yeah |
| 17:33.52 | flawd | well I'm paranoid and I am scratching my head as of how that testing entry got into sources.list |
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| 17:34.08 | flawd | I have no idea how so I guess I have a blackout |
| 17:34.45 | ke6isf | streuner: Welcome to Sunday. =O.o= |
| 17:34.52 | flawd | but... if one entry in sources.list was testing and I did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade it must have upgraded to testing right? |
| 17:34.57 | mouser25 | legba7 could you point me to an example of what my entry in /etc/modules should look like ? |
| 17:35.01 | flawd | I got all other entries on sarge |
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| 17:35.52 | witch | streuner what should be the gateway entry for eth1 in /etc/network interfaces? it is presently set to 127.0.0.1, since eth0 is the cable dhcp connection - is that the prob? |
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| 17:36.10 | streuner | witch: check out /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/ |
| 17:36.10 | witch | the docs show static ip gateway |
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| 17:36.27 | witch | streuner the examples are open right now |
| 17:36.37 | witch | streuner i am comapring the examples to my entries |
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| 17:37.07 | witch | streuner i am not sure what the correct gateway entry should be, eth0 or localhost |
| 17:37.17 | witch | streuner eth0 is dhcp cableconnection |
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| 17:37.46 | streuner | witch: how are you connected to i-net? |
| 17:37.53 | UnKnowN_ | hey where do i go to get help with unreal ircd? |
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| 17:38.40 | witch | streuner i don't know what inet is - eth0 is dhcp cable modem connection - i need to be able to ping eth1 from the windows box |
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| 17:38.50 | streuner | witch: internet |
| 17:39.07 | witch | streuner internet connection is eth0 thru dhcp cable modem |
| 17:39.37 | witch | i can ping eth1 from this box, but debian states network is unreacheable if i restart networking which makes no sense |
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| 17:40.05 | flawd | if one entry in sources.list was testing and I did apt-get update/upgrade, the whole system got upgraded to testing? How can I check if the whole system is testing or some sarge? |
| 17:40.13 | streuner | witch: on which box (OS) is cable modem connected to? |
| 17:40.34 | witch | streuner this one - the debian box in eth0 |
| 17:40.58 | streuner | flawd: check out libc6 |
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| 17:41.18 | witch | streuner debian box has cable modem connection on eth0 and second nic is eth1 |
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| 17:41.25 | streuner | flawd: dpkg -l libc6 and compare versions, check out entries in sources.list |
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| 17:41.56 | flawd | the login says testing/unstable but since I changed the testing line in sources.list back to sarge and did apt-get update trying to "downgrade" apt-cache showpkg XXX shows sarge |
| 17:42.03 | UnKnowN_ | Who do I contact for configuring unreal ircd |
| 17:42.05 | TwistedEmotions | How come when I press 'p' to freaking paste in vi/vim I get the number "2"... wtf. |
| 17:42.06 | witch | streuner so for eth1 gateway, is 127.0.0.1 the correct entry? |
| 17:42.14 | UnKnowN_ | I already compiled the whole thing |
| 17:42.17 | streuner | witch: well, if debian works well, that sounds ok to me |
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| 17:42.32 | streuner | witch: no |
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| 17:42.49 | streuner | witch: 127.0.0.1 is reserved for 'localhost' |
| 17:42.54 | goccia | flawd: remove testing sources m update and check a deb with : apt-cache policy *deb |
| 17:43.06 | witch | streuner - should the gateway entry inb /etc/network/interfaces be 0.0.0.0? |
| 17:43.11 | streuner | no |
| 17:43.11 | flawd | streuner, libc6 is 2.3.5-6 |
| 17:43.29 | witch | streuner then i don't know what the gateway entry for eth1 should be |
| 17:43.50 | streuner | flawd: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 17:44.13 | sward | witch: eth1 shouldn't need a gateway if I understand your setup correctly |
| 17:44.17 | Eddie | is there a command i can run that shows me all the different hard disks in my system, so i can check debian has detected them |
| 17:44.20 | streuner | !info libc6 testing |
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| 17:44.33 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-6 (etch), Packaged size: 4815 kB, Installed size: 16356 kB |
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| 17:44.54 | legba7 | Eddie: df |
| 17:44.57 | Eddie | cheers |
| 17:45.03 | streuner | oh, libc6 2.3.5 is in testing yet... |
| 17:45.16 | streuner | flawd: in that case check out your sources.list |
| 17:45.18 | sward | streuner: Yes :) |
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| 17:45.24 | jjazz | Anybody recommend a lightweight, scriptable wm? |
| 17:45.28 | Eddie | its only picked up my ide main drive |
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| 17:45.39 | Eddie | take it i have to mount my sata drives? |
| 17:46.00 | bind | guys are you using debian as desktop system |
| 17:46.09 | goccia | flawd: stable debs should show as 500 http://ftp... so if only few debs are from testing you can do a dpkg -i deb to downgrade em |
| 17:46.12 | TwistedEmotions | I am trying to use vim... I have a list of names from my server... and I want to replace the three spaces in between each username with a "return"... not the word... just you know a new line. |
| 17:46.15 | witch | streuner - how do i know what the gateway entry for eth1 should be or can i set the static ip for eth1 as the gateway in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 17:46.36 | sward | bind: Yes, and /msg dpkg poll |
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| 17:46.42 | witch | streuner - there alot of examples in the docs but i don't know which example i should use |
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| 17:46.47 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know the proper search command... I tried... "/ " but that was useless. |
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| 17:47.05 | jjazz | TwistedEmotions, :s/\b \b/\n/g Or something like that? |
| 17:47.09 | flawd | streuner, *confused* dpkg -l libc6 says "versions: 2.3.5-6(/var/lib/dpkg/status)(2.3.2.ds1-22(/var/lib/blahblah*sarge*) |
| 17:47.12 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Hi all! |
| 17:47.27 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Sorry that i left when i asked a question, i was called away two times :( |
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| 17:47.44 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Can anybody help me with a small problem that has to do with usb wlan? |
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| 17:47.52 | flawd | goccia, show as 500? |
| 17:47.57 | sward | TwistedEmotions: :s/ /\n/ ? |
| 17:48.00 | TwistedEmotions | jjazz: Pattern not found: \b \b |
| 17:48.06 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | The drivers are OK, so is the card, so is the AP, so is the connection |
| 17:48.14 | jjazz | TwistedEmotions, go with just the spaces, then. |
| 17:48.16 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | But i can't internet with it |
| 17:48.22 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Anybody? |
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| 17:48.32 | goccia | flawd: try apt-cacge policy mozilla-firefox for example and do the same on a deb you know for sure is from testing |
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| 17:48.58 | sward | TwistedEmotions: You can match word boundaries with \< and \> |
| 17:49.08 | jjazz | sward, Thanks... that's what I was going for with the \b |
| 17:49.15 | TwistedEmotions | Uhhhh... it replaced all the empty spaces with "^@" is that correct? |
| 17:49.19 | TwistedEmotions | Im use to nano ;( |
| 17:49.22 | Eddie | how do i get debian to detect my sata drives so that i can share them with samba |
| 17:49.28 | streuner | witch: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Cable-Modem.html |
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| 17:49.36 | goccia | flawd: firefox on stable show as 500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages , kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686 which is from sid say nothing |
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| 17:49.40 | jjazz | TwistedEmotions, I'm guessing that's not correct. ;P |
| 17:49.44 | TwistedEmotions | no.. |
| 17:49.46 | TwistedEmotions | it's not ;( |
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| 17:50.05 | borg | k26isf: thx a lot, it worked .. |
| 17:50.14 | jjazz | TwistedEmotions, try the 'u' command to undo. |
| 17:50.14 | TwistedEmotions | ^@amelie^@america^@america7^@amiga^@amorphous^@amour |
| 17:50.17 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Does anybody have some time here? |
| 17:50.18 | borg | shure to ask u more in future .. here .. thx |
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| 17:50.31 | sward | TwistedEmotions: Try \r instead of \n |
| 17:50.39 | flawd | goccia, firefox says 500 |
| 17:50.40 | TwistedEmotions | Now it's all like that... how do I replace the ^@'s with returns? |
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| 17:50.42 | dpblnt | is webdot included in graphviz? |
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| 17:50.48 | witch | streuner - the cable modem works fine - it is the networking - i can't ping the windows box |
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| 17:50.54 | sweetbret | any one ever used this coLinux to run debian? |
| 17:51.00 | TwistedEmotions | sward: Im new.. what would be the full command? |
| 17:51.26 | flawd | goccia, grub is also sarge |
| 17:51.35 | TwistedEmotions | I closed and re-opened... 'u' doesnt work. |
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| 17:51.39 | streuner | witch: from you debian box? |
| 17:51.43 | flawd | but at login (text mode) it says testing/unstable |
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| 17:51.49 | streuner | witch: and vice versa its ok? |
| 17:51.54 | Phr0zenKore | hi alll |
| 17:51.57 | Phr0zenKore | i have problems with DRI |
| 17:52.03 | ricky_clarkson | #dri |
| 17:52.05 | jjazz | TwistedEmotions, ok... try :s/ /\r/g; |
| 17:52.06 | Phr0zenKore | it says that xfree86-DRI extension is not loaded |
| 17:52.09 | Phr0zenKore | alright |
| 17:52.13 | flawd | streuner, my sources list is changed to be all sarge now |
| 17:52.16 | witch | streuner - i can't ping either box from the other - the debian box is the gateway or i hope it to be |
| 17:52.26 | streuner | flawd: too late |
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| 17:52.36 | TwistedEmotions | jjazz: it's not three spaces anymore.. its all ^@ now.. |
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| 17:52.37 | flawd | I must have messed it up somehow atleast since it says unstable/testing at login |
| 17:52.39 | flawd | streuner, heh. |
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| 17:52.47 | TwistedEmotions | jjazz: ^@ashley^@ask^@aspen^@ass^@asshole^@asterix |
| 17:52.47 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | Can anybody help me with wlan? |
| 17:52.50 | streuner | witch: as i told you before, make sure those boxen are connected by cable |
| 17:52.52 | witch | streuner - but i can ping eth1 from the box it is on (the debian box) |
| 17:52.59 | flawd | streuner, well can I what goccia says and downgrade some packages since not all seems to be upgraded? |
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| 17:53.26 | witch | streuner - the cable is connected to both boxes - just checked per your instructions |
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| 17:53.43 | Eddie | can someone help me, i need to get debian to recognise my sata drives |
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| 17:53.52 | streuner | witch: what's the IP of your windows box? |
| 17:53.53 | flawd | goccia, how can I see then what packages are sarge and what is testing? I can't manually go through all of them with apt-cache policy? |
| 17:53.56 | witch | streuner - but i don't know what ip address should exist for the eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:53.59 | jjazz | TwistedEmotions, I don't know what those \@ things are |
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| 17:54.02 | titcher | Today, I installed knoppix onto hard drive in debian mode, all was well, it worked fine, I did an apt-get upgrade, and part way through, i had a powercut, now KDE doesn't work, I tried apt-get install kde, and that failed to work, can anybody help? |
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| 17:54.20 | witch | streuner - i mean don't know what gateway address is correct for eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:54.23 | streuner | titcher: /j #knoppix |
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| 17:54.24 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | I also have problems! |
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| 17:54.30 | TwistedEmotions | It's all good... I found it.. |
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| 17:54.32 | titcher | Heh, ok then |
| 17:54.32 | TwistedEmotions | thanks guys. |
| 17:54.40 | jjazz | TwistedEmotions, good for you :) |
| 17:54.44 | streuner | witch: just answer my question |
| 17:54.59 | witch | streuner - the cable is connected to both boxes |
| 17:55.06 | witch | streuner - i just checked |
| 17:55.06 | Eddie | is it possible to share a drive using samba thats using NTFS file system? |
| 17:55.16 | streuner | witch: what do you mean to both boxen? |
| 17:55.34 | streuner | witch: plug the cable of windows box into hub (switch) |
| 17:55.45 | witch | streuner - eth1 on the debian box is connected to the one nic on the windows box |
| 17:55.54 | witch | streuner there is no hub or switch |
| 17:56.05 | streuner | witch: buy one, they are cheap |
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| 17:56.09 | TwistedEmotions | jjazz: haha thanks ;) |
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| 17:56.47 | witch | streuner - but i have used linux as a router before and as a gateway for windows - the prob is it has been 3 years so i don't remember how |
| 17:56.57 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | _SerhaT_, you here? |
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| 17:56.59 | [BSP]_Black_Spid | =) |
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| 17:57.16 | flawd | streuner, goccia what can I do then? |
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| 17:57.29 | goccia | flawd: a simple bash script will do it |
| 17:57.33 | streuner | flawd: scroll up and read what i told you? |
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| 17:58.10 | witch | streuner - thanks for your help and advice - it is appreciated |
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| 17:59.21 | streuner | flawd: just run etch/testing |
| 17:59.28 | streuner | flawd: or re-install |
| 17:59.52 | kenboo | what kernel should i choose for Turion 64? |
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| 17:59.56 | flawd | streuner, which was if I understood it to compare version of libc6 to that of testing, which I did, and saw that it was testing, and, checked sources.list and it has only sarge entries now (which you say is too late) |
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| 18:00.25 | streuner | kenboo: laptop? |
| 18:00.37 | flawd | streuner, if I was to run testing I would have to edit sources.list and apt-get update/upgrade all packages to testing. What happens if I just leave sarge in sources.list as most seem to still be sarge? |
| 18:00.43 | flawd | goccia, oh? |
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| 18:01.11 | streuner | flawd: well, you running an old testing system then... |
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| 18:01.30 | streuner | flawd: prolly, but nobody wants this |
| 18:01.54 | flawd | basicly, Im fscked |
| 18:02.02 | kenboo | streuner, yes |
| 18:02.12 | streuner | kenboo: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 18:02.34 | goccia | flawd: libc6 ? very hard : to know what is testing and what is sid do a script on dpkg -l list |
| 18:02.49 | Azar | flawd it is not hard to upgrade to sarge |
| 18:02.59 | flawd | Azar, I need to DOWNgrade heh |
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| 18:03.08 | Azar | ah, I see |
| 18:03.16 | goccia | but i do not think you will do it right , libc6 is too much me think |
| 18:03.16 | Eddie | gah i dont understand this, when i run the DF command debian shows only hda1. But i have 2 sata drives i need to use with it |
| 18:03.23 | Eddie | do i have to mount them or something? |
| 18:03.27 | flawd | somehow a testing entry sneaked in sources.list and I have the box auto apt-get update/upgrade at boot |
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| 18:03.56 | flawd | goccia, you would also recommend to upgrade the whole system to testing? |
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| 18:04.30 | flawd | Eddie, if they are not mounted then yes |
| 18:04.41 | Eddie | how can i mount them? |
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| 18:04.58 | Eddie | i used to have to run windows so they are both in NTFS filesystem |
| 18:05.13 | bomb | Eddie: man mount |
| 18:05.24 | Eddie | but i want to share the files on them using samba |
| 18:05.28 | Eddie | k ill read that |
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| 18:05.38 | bomb | Eddie: they still need to be mounted first. |
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| 18:05.43 | phr0zenkore_ | on my new debian pc. |
| 18:05.44 | phr0zenkore_ | phr0zenkore@Q-Z0R-GAMING:~$ glxinfo | grep direct |
| 18:05.44 | phr0zenkore_ | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 18:05.44 | phr0zenkore_ | direct rendering: No |
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| 18:05.56 | phr0zenkore_ | :o |
| 18:06.03 | streuner | Phr0zenKore: /topic |
| 18:06.03 | sward | !tell Phr0zenKore about paste |
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| 18:06.27 | phr0zenkore_ | thnx |
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| 18:07.10 | goccia | flawd: Preparing to replace libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 (using .../libc6_2.3.5-4_i386.deb) and so on : is a very hard job ... |
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| 18:07.22 | phr0zenkore_ | well anyone can help me?> |
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| 18:07.38 | Rawplayer | !anyone |
| 18:07.38 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
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| 18:08.46 | flawd | goccia, yeah well since apt-cache policy libc6 says "Installed: 2.3.5-6" I guess it is testing. And, then I dont have much choice but upgrade the whole system to testing |
| 18:08.50 | flawd | goccia, or what do you say |
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| 18:09.14 | TwistedEmotions | What is the terminal command to see how much data is being sent and recieved in a instant on a network... the net equvalent of "top" is what I am looking for.. |
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| 18:09.35 | goccia | flawd: streuner is right i think |
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| 18:10.01 | flawd | ok. so to upgrade fully to testing I just replace all entries of sarge to testing in sources.list? |
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| 18:10.29 | Eddie | bomb my first satadrive would be called sda1? |
| 18:10.51 | flawd | Eddie, that is usually an usb device i think |
| 18:11.14 | flawd | Eddie, I would think it would be /dev/hd** |
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| 18:11.21 | Eddie | is there a command where i can have a look at what names its given drives? |
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| 18:11.25 | Eddie | k ill try |
| 18:11.26 | goccia | flawd: i'm on sarge from yesterday : the security team is doing a damn good job . so many fix i cannot stay on testing at the moment , it is a personal choice |
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| 18:11.38 | flawd | Eddie, cfdisk |
| 18:11.41 | flawd | but be careful |
| 18:11.46 | quittt | EMERSON |
| 18:11.47 | quittt | LAKE |
| 18:11.50 | quittt | AND PALMER! |
| 18:12.16 | phr0zenkore_ | ... |
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| 18:12.21 | Sashi | hey |
| 18:12.24 | phr0zenkore_ | can somebody help me with DRI? not much help in #dri |
| 18:12.26 | flawd | goccia, I guess I will have to reinstall this &("("# box |
| 18:12.31 | goccia | flawd: but sid libc6 on sarge was amazing :) |
| 18:12.33 | Sashi | |
| 18:12.36 | Sashi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:13.01 | flawd | goccia, can I query you? |
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| 18:14.45 | goccia | flawd: yes you can |
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| 18:15.13 | phr0zenkore_ | anyone? oO |
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| 18:17.06 | quittt | !emerson, lake & palmer |
| 18:17.15 | mrk_ | hi. I made a new german qwerty keyboard layout. I load him now with "loadkeys de_qwerty.kmap.gz" and it works. But i want to change it now with "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" |
| 18:17.30 | tarzeau | why is firefox so god fucking damned a browser that it keeps crashing before i can read the stuff or bookmark the urls? WHY. FUCKING. SUCKING. |
| 18:17.42 | pipeline | ...because firefox fucking sucks? |
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| 18:17.59 | tarzeau | (or why do fucking idiots use javascript and create pages that are not viewable by normal browsers) |
| 18:18.00 | deadcat | how do i run a command in the hardstatus option in screen? |
| 18:18.01 | mrk_ | should i to add a new layout somewhere? |
| 18:18.02 | tonsofpcs | who do i report installer bugs to? |
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| 18:18.13 | pipeline | tarzeau: I strongly suggest you use the old seamonkey, or move to galeon. Konquerer is also an option. It's almost reasonable as a www browser these days, if you can stand the interface. |
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| 18:18.21 | pipeline | tarzeau: Firefox just plain fucking sucks. |
| 18:18.21 | tarzeau | pipeline: yes it is the fucking hilarious awful crap browser |
| 18:18.27 | tarzeau | pipeline: exactly what i say |
| 18:18.29 | TwistedEmotions | tarzeau: testing/unstable? |
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| 18:18.46 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: sid. it ALSO HAPPENS in sarge. so don't fucking tell me "use stable" |
| 18:18.48 | phr0zenkore_ | can anyone help me with setting up DRI for an ATI Radeon 9200? |
| 18:19.00 | phr0zenkore_ | cuz i get the error that the module is not loaded |
| 18:19.04 | TwistedEmotions | tarzeau: I use sid ;) Calm down... |
| 18:19.06 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: You have to load the module. |
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| 18:19.12 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: Add "radeon" to /etc/modules |
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| 18:19.18 | cadu | !anyone |
| 18:19.18 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 18:19.18 | phr0zenkore_ | radeon? |
| 18:19.21 | phr0zenkore_ | alright |
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| 18:19.32 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: "radeon" is the name of the module that provides the open source kernel driver. |
| 18:19.32 | wam | Hi! I'm running a vhost under linux-vserver. "/etc/init.d/atd" won't start. It seems like "start-stop-daemon" exits too early. When I run "atd -d", it runs perfectly. But when I run "atd" without debugging, it exits immediately. Any ideas? |
| 18:19.36 | tarzeau | pipeline: problem with konq is the interface i can't stand |
| 18:19.37 | TwistedEmotions | tarzeau: check open bugs.. there are quite a few... dont remember if there are fixes for it too.. check debian.org |
| 18:19.43 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: I think the ATI proprietary drivers also work, but they're godawful. |
| 18:19.48 | tarzeau | TwistedEmotions: i did, many with "crash" in the subject |
| 18:19.54 | phr0zenkore_ | alright, thanks |
| 18:19.56 | phr0zenkore_ | do i have to reboot? |
| 18:19.59 | pipeline | tarzeau: I've taken to galeon. It's almost as nice as win32 Opera and far, far nicer than unix opera. |
| 18:20.07 | pipeline | tarzeau: The mouse gestures actually work ! |
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| 18:20.27 | pipeline | tarzeau: As an added bonus, Galeon works with a seamonkey renderer. No firefox bugs :) |
| 18:20.32 | tarzeau | i better don't use mouse gesture, since my hand does uncontrollable moves |
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| 18:20.50 | victor__ | Hello? |
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| 18:21.04 | azeem | victor__: hello. |
| 18:21.10 | tarzeau | pipeline: thanks, upgrading galeon (i used to use it, no idea why i started using firefox... influence of media/workplace) |
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| 18:21.15 | victor__ | Hi, i'm in need od help. |
| 18:21.19 | pipeline | tarzeau: Galeon also has "smart bookmarks" like Opera, which aids keyboard navigation quite a lot. |
| 18:21.22 | victor__ | I can't get X to work.. |
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| 18:21.29 | victor__ | It's the first time i try linux |
| 18:21.43 | tonsofpcs | victor__ - did you configure it? |
| 18:21.43 | goccia | i use firefox noscript extension for javascript |
| 18:21.47 | pipeline | tarzeau: For example, I type "g <search terms>" in the location bar to search google. "am" for amazon music. "oed" for oxford english, "mw" for meriam-webster. It's niiice. |
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| 18:22.14 | pipeline | victor__: You'll have to be a little more specific. What doesn't work? |
| 18:22.14 | victor__ | Well i have tried to numerous of times, downloading it using aptitude and so on, then i get this blue pop-up and i follow the instructons |
| 18:22.16 | tarzeau | pipeline: only bookmark handling i like is safari, links and the one in omniweb |
| 18:22.46 | victor__ | Thing is that when i start X, my screen goes all gray with yellow lines. |
| 18:22.51 | pipeline | tarzeau: "smart bookmarks" don't really have anything to do with bookmarking. It's just a configurable way to do neat stuff with the location bar. |
| 18:23.00 | pipeline | victor__: What graphics card do you have? That sounds like trio64 brain damage :( |
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| 18:23.29 | victor__ | I have a gainward 6600GT "Golden sample" "GLH" |
| 18:23.31 | tarzeau | pipeline: i don't need that, i just type urls, read stuff, that's it |
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| 18:24.26 | phr0zenkore_ | the 'radeon' trick doesn't work |
| 18:24.26 | pipeline | victor__: That doesn't mean piddly shit to me. Could you possibly have set a higher resolution than your monitor supports? |
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| 18:24.31 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: There's no trick to it. |
| 18:24.33 | phr0zenkore_ | do i have to select ATI @ xorg config? |
| 18:24.41 | azeem | victor__: what does lspci say for your graphics card? |
| 18:24.45 | phr0zenkore_ | i have VESA now |
| 18:24.50 | azeem | phr0zenkore_: yes |
| 18:24.54 | phr0zenkore_ | omfg.. |
| 18:24.55 | phr0zenkore_ | okay |
| 18:25.04 | goccia | i've seen a mail today about kazehakase : it is good ? |
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| 18:25.20 | pipeline | goccia: It's "interesting." Lots of features. At least it's not firefox, I can say that much for it. |
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| 18:25.32 | victor__ | pipeline: Negative, it doesnt chancge resolution and in the setup i specify 1600x1200 as the highest possible, i've tested my screen in windows and i can go up to 2048xsomething.. |
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| 18:25.46 | goccia | pipeline: screenshots are not too bad |
| 18:26.09 | tonsofpcs | victor__ - try it at 1024x768, 256 color, work up from there |
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| 18:26.14 | pipeline | victor__: Do you have a mouse cursor? Yellow lines could be a symptom of overclocking if it is otherwise functional. Just starting X, you should have a black-and-white checkerboard pattern that looks grey. |
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| 18:26.25 | victor__ | azeem: I can't really figure out something else than "nivda VGA" |
| 18:26.30 | flawd | goccia, did message you |
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| 18:26.34 | pipeline | victor__: You should be using the "nv" driver |
| 18:26.43 | victor__ | Yes, i choose the nv |
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| 18:26.57 | tonsofpcs | victor__ - try it at 1024x768, 256 color, work up from there |
| 18:27.06 | greg__ | hi dudes |
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| 18:27.14 | victor__ | okay i will, now just one more thing what X shpoudl i download? |
| 18:27.21 | victor__ | the "x-window-system"? |
| 18:27.28 | pipeline | victor__: Yes, that's fine. |
| 18:27.34 | Phr0zenKore | how did i reconfigure X again? |
| 18:27.41 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 18:27.41 | Phr0zenKore | dpkg-reconfigure what? |
| 18:27.42 | deadcat | !drxx |
| 18:27.43 | dpkg | it has been said that drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the X config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:27.44 | Phr0zenKore | thanks |
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| 18:28.07 | goccia | flawd: i'm a +i :) |
| 18:28.09 | flawd | victor__, you must also specify the mode you want as default. it doesnt matter if you have specified highest mode lets say 1600x1200 and you have default 800x600 |
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| 18:28.23 | flawd | goccia, mkay? but you said I could heh |
| 18:28.25 | azeem | victor__: yes, x-window-system (or x-window-system-core) is fine |
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| 18:28.31 | goccia | flawd: i can see what you type |
| 18:28.34 | victor__ | Okay, well. Bare with me please i'm a total n00b.. |
| 18:28.38 | flawd | oh |
| 18:28.41 | greg__ | i can't compile my gstreamer (anything depeding on glib) on sarge, /usr/include/glib-1.2/glib.h:66:24: glibconfig.h: Missing, is my build system broken ? |
| 18:28.44 | azeem | victor__: you're doing fine |
| 18:28.47 | Eddie | flawd when i try and mount it tells me it cannot find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 18:28.47 | Phr0zenKore | n0pe, setting it to ati doesn't work |
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| 18:29.13 | Eddie | in cfdisk i can see /dev/sda is there though |
| 18:29.16 | goccia | flawd: i mean on the message lines :) |
| 18:29.23 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: Have you actually loaded the driver yet? adding it to /etc/modules just tells debian to load it at boot time |
| 18:29.29 | victor__ | Hmm if i'm not back it's becuase it wasn't working and i got the ugly screen and i'll have to reinstall |
| 18:29.35 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: use "modprobe" to load it immediately by hand |
| 18:29.38 | flawd | goccia, ok but I dont see anyting from you. |
| 18:29.45 | pipeline | victor__: hey, hey, wait |
| 18:29.50 | victor__ | what? |
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| 18:29.55 | flawd | Eddie, I dont know anything about sata drives but my dribes are /dev/hd** |
| 18:29.55 | goccia | flawd: my +i maybe ? |
| 18:30.00 | pipeline | victor__: You can get back to the console by hitting ctrl alt f1 |
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| 18:30.08 | pipeline | victor__: That should work even if X malfunctions. |
| 18:30.12 | flawd | Eddie, /dev/sda is usb I think |
| 18:30.15 | azeem | victor__: reinstall won't help |
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| 18:30.39 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: already loaded |
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| 18:30.47 | Eddie | in cfdisk it shows it as my 200g sata drive |
| 18:30.50 | victor__ | yeah, but when i get gray background yellowlines, when i hit ctrl+alt+f1 i get just a bunch of _____ lines allover the screen |
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| 18:30.52 | goccia | flawd: i will register only to chat to ravenbird : i feed every day a real ravenbird so i love that bot :) |
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| 18:31.07 | livingc | hello |
| 18:31.19 | pipeline | victor__: Ok, that's pretty fucking disturbing. |
| 18:31.26 | pipeline | victor__: As in, it sounds like a hardware issue. |
| 18:31.27 | victor__ | Yeah it is.. |
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| 18:31.40 | pipeline | victor__: I would inspect your card for signs of leaking capacitors and/or burn damage... |
| 18:31.48 | quittt | whiplash |
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| 18:32.04 | flawd | Eddie, ok try to mount it then. Create a mountpoint like for example "mkdir /mnt/hd2" then "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/hd2" |
| 18:32.20 | victor__ | Hmm.. ehh it works perfectly fine in windows wich i used last, 2 days ago.. |
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| 18:32.42 | victor__ | It do get a little hot, like max, 70 celcius, but it runs fine.. |
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| 18:32.43 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: radeon module already loaded |
| 18:32.44 | flawd | Eddie, I know far less than most people here but I try to help |
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| 18:32.48 | flawd | might not be the best advice |
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| 18:32.56 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: And it "doesn't work" ? What does "doesn't work" mean in this case? |
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| 18:33.11 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: glxgears is slow as heck, boots up slow as heck |
| 18:33.15 | Phr0zenKore | has slow as heck fps |
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| 18:33.23 | Eddie | flawd that worked thanks :) |
| 18:33.27 | Phr0zenKore | and it says xfree86-dri is not loaded |
| 18:33.29 | pipeline | victor__: hahah, "70 celcius" what bullshit. Temperature sensors are ah, not accurate. At all. |
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| 18:34.18 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: rm /etc/X11/XF86Config* && dexconf -o /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
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| 18:34.25 | victor__ | pipeline: Yes i know they anr't that accurate but they do give a pointer.. and since i don't got any artifacts in any games before i don't really see why i would worrie now.. |
| 18:34.25 | Phr0zenKore | alright |
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| 18:34.30 | JekY | how speak Portuguese ??? |
| 18:34.30 | flawd | Eddie, "man /etc/fstab" and "man mount" to learn how to mount it easier |
| 18:34.39 | flawd | Eddie, glad to be able to help |
| 18:34.41 | pipeline | victor__: I would worry because the damn thing is malfunctioning in a serious way. |
| 18:34.49 | flawd | goccia, oh so you are registered now? |
| 18:34.50 | pipeline | victor__: It's a bad sign when VGA BIOS routines don't work. |
| 18:34.54 | bomb | what can i do if 'metatracker' isn't finding the files it needs during 'make' |
| 18:34.59 | JekY | how speak Portuguese ??? |
| 18:35.00 | bomb | i am so close to getting this app compiled |
| 18:35.05 | flawd | goccia, I could just say what I wanted to say in here or in another chan heh |
| 18:35.08 | victor__ | It starts to malfunction after i start X! |
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| 18:35.16 | Eddie | yes thanks for explaining it :), just need to share it over samba now |
| 18:35.17 | pipeline | victor__: Assuming you don't have a "vga=###" argument in your kernel arguments, the console mode is 100% VGA BIOS crap. |
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| 18:35.33 | Azar | what is the Debian portuguese channel? |
| 18:35.35 | pipeline | victor__: If you DO have a "vga=###" argument in your kernel arguments, I would try removing it. |
| 18:35.48 | victor__ | pipeline: how do i check that? |
| 18:35.53 | bomb | metatracker.cpp:27: error: `setLit' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 18:35.56 | bomb | what the hell is it talking about |
| 18:36.00 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: doesn't work either |
| 18:36.03 | pipeline | victor__: Good question. I assume you're using grub. Take a look at /boot/grub/menu.list and see what there is to see. |
| 18:36.07 | Phr0zenKore | so i select the atidriver, then do that command? |
| 18:36.14 | Phr0zenKore | cuz i now have vesa enabled again |
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| 18:36.22 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: That command wipes out your old XF86Config |
| 18:36.26 | victor__ | Pipeline: okay, i will try.. |
| 18:36.27 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: So that dpkg-reconfigure will work right |
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| 18:36.38 | Phr0zenKore | ahh... |
| 18:36.41 | pipeline | victor__: Sometimes enabling the vga=### shit for the console wreaks havoc on X drivers. |
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| 18:36.55 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: If you modify your XF86Config with any tool other than dpkg-reconfigure, dpkg-reconfigure won't touch it. |
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| 18:37.13 | victor__ | pipeline what's the command for lookin at a file then? |
| 18:37.19 | pipeline | victor__: If you have no vga=### argument, and your console mode is screwed up after you start X, that's a very, very bad sign. |
| 18:37.24 | pipeline | victor__: "less" |
| 18:37.33 | pipeline | victor__: Hit "q" at any time to quit less. |
| 18:37.45 | victor__ | pipeline: thanks |
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| 18:38.02 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: n0pe, doesn't work goddamnit |
| 18:38.11 | pipeline | victor__: If you /do/ have a vga=### argument, I would try booting with either no vga argument or "vga=off" and see what happens. |
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| 18:38.24 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: Be more specific. "doesn't work" HOW ? |
| 18:38.38 | goccia | ahhh : refcontrol ? yeahhhhhhh : send a fake referer to google :) |
| 18:38.40 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: In the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 dialogue, are you allowing it to load dri ? |
| 18:38.44 | flawd | victor__, http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/debian.html |
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| 18:38.51 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: yes |
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| 18:39.15 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: well, when i select ati it says (EE) No device found, and when i select VESA, X works but glxgears acts weird |
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| 18:39.31 | Phr0zenKore | and with acting weird i mean that xfree86-dri is not loadeed |
| 18:39.33 | Phr0zenKore | loaded* |
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| 18:39.40 | Phr0zenKore | and it's slow as heck |
| 18:39.44 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: Are you starting X as root? |
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| 18:39.53 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: Or are you using a bullshit startx script? |
| 18:39.54 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: starting gdm as root |
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| 18:40.38 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: I'm guessing one of two things. Either you're choosing the wrong driver (you should be using "radeon") or your DRI device permissions are fucked. |
| 18:40.49 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: I'm pretty sure the "ati" driver is for ATI Rage Pro and ATI Rage 128 crap. |
| 18:41.00 | Phr0zenKore | pipeline: in the dpkg-configure thing? |
| 18:41.08 | Phr0zenKore | can't select such a thing as radeon |
| 18:41.12 | SimonRaven | radeon isn't it a subset of ati? |
| 18:41.15 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: Confusingly, the XF86 (userspace) driver is called "radeon" and the Linux (kernel) driver is also called "radeon" |
| 18:41.22 | SimonRaven | i'm pretty sure of this |
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| 18:41.24 | flawd | streuner, goccia: this is just what I dont need. I have very much going on atm and I dont need to have to reinstall my pc, I cant atm. I guess the best thing to do, in order to not have to reinstall right now, is to upgrade to testing? then I will atleast not get a "broken" system? and later I can reinstall sarge. or what do you think? if I leave it like this, with parts sarge and parts testing it will surely brake sooner or later or just be |
| 18:41.24 | flawd | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.29 | Phr0zenKore | so i should edit my config manually? |
| 18:41.34 | friendship | Can anyone tell me why I get the following message most of the time when I use apt-get: (frontend:13963): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_client_add_dir: assertion `gconf_valid_key (dirname, NULL)' failed |
| 18:41.35 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore: No. |
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| 18:42.17 | flawd | victor__, http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/debian.html |
| 18:42.18 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore, SimonRaven : Well, I'll be damned. There's no "radeon" driver in xf86. |
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| 18:42.28 | victor__ | Hi again.. |
| 18:42.28 | pipeline | Phr0zenKore, SimonRaven : Simon must have been right. |
| 18:42.33 | SimonRaven | pipeline: only kernel does |
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| 18:42.54 | SimonRaven | i'll paste a bit from my xorg log |
| 18:43.02 | Phr0zenKore | yay pipeline, i loaded the "Radeon" driver |
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| 18:43.04 | Phr0zenKore | seems to work |
| 18:43.09 | Phr0zenKore | but DRI is still off |
| 18:43.18 | victor__ | pipeline: now grub is installed on my IDE master drive, and i installed debian on my IDE slave.. |
| 18:43.31 | victor__ | pipeline: how do i get to the menu.list? |
| 18:43.53 | SimonRaven | (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.5.6) for chipset: ati ; (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets:; |
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| 18:44.06 | SimonRaven | and i have a mach64 card in this thing |
| 18:44.09 | Phr0zenKore | i loaded Radeon |
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| 18:44.16 | Phr0zenKore | it seems to work, but DRI is still off |
| 18:44.23 | Phr0zenKore | but it solves one problem |
| 18:44.27 | Phr0zenKore | the module load thingy |
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| 18:45.53 | markl_ | how do i tell what source a package came from? |
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| 18:46.21 | streuner | markl_: apt-cache policy |
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| 18:47.17 | markl_ | streuner: ok thanks. if it doesn't list a repository then the package must have been removed from the source then, right? |
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| 18:47.54 | flawd | streuner, so I will do as you adviced and fully upgrade to testing. I change sarge to testing in sources.list. Do I also remove the security update line? |
| 18:48.22 | Plazma | !time |
| 18:48.22 | dpkg | i guess time is found on http://www.time.com/, or Sun Sep 11 18:48:22 2005 UTC |
| 18:48.25 | streuner | flawd: yes |
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| 18:48.53 | streuner | flawd: /msg dpkg testing security |
| 18:49.03 | flawd | ty |
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| 18:49.12 | victor__ | pipeline: when i get prompted by one of the X servers, it wan't the adress to the card or whatever, i just leave that field unchancged.. |
| 18:49.13 | Plazma | haha |
| 18:49.33 | Phr0zenKore | ... |
| 18:49.36 | victor__ | Pipeline: it says something like PCI:000:02 or something like that.. |
| 18:49.47 | Phr0zenKore | Can somebody help me with DRI? |
| 18:49.48 | Plazma | !beer |
| 18:49.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, beer is liquid gold mate |
| 18:49.54 | Plazma | yes.. yes it is |
| 18:49.56 | Phr0zenKore | wait, log viewing time |
| 18:50.08 | nvz | reminds me more of drool in a bottle |
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| 18:50.17 | friendship | I am considering uninstalling my "official" install of nvidia drivers and doing it with debian packages, does anyone recommend this? |
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| 18:50.23 | UnKnowN_ | any net admins around |
| 18:50.28 | UnKnowN_ | I need to talk to them |
| 18:50.35 | drac | friendship: does it work, now ? |
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| 18:50.55 | streuner | !tell UnKnowN_ about ask |
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| 18:51.22 | UnKnowN_ | HEY! |
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| 18:51.27 | nvz | HEY! |
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| 18:51.38 | Plazma | oh yea |
| 18:51.39 | Plazma | HEY! |
| 18:51.40 | UnKnowN_ | dont ambigous statement me |
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| 18:51.56 | nvz | we dont single out free supporters and pick their brains |
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| 18:52.01 | Phr0zenKore | alright, the radeon module helped, but DRI is still set to off |
| 18:52.09 | nvz | you ask if someone knows they answer |
| 18:52.13 | streuner | nvz: :-) |
| 18:52.23 | cheal | friendship: your system is probably already harmed if you used nvidia-installer, but...you can always try |
| 18:52.40 | drac | Phr0zenKore: post your /var/log/XFree86.0.log (or Xorg.0.log) at pastebin.com |
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| 18:52.47 | Phr0zenKore | okay |
| 18:52.55 | cusco | how do I see in what repo is XX package? |
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| 18:53.13 | nvz | cusco: packages.debian.org, or be more specific |
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| 18:53.17 | cusco | like contrib |
| 18:53.20 | cusco | non-free |
| 18:53.24 | nvz | cusco: packages.debian.org, or be more specific |
| 18:53.25 | Plazma | !tell cusco about google |
| 18:53.37 | cusco | doesn't apt-cache tells me? |
| 18:53.45 | nvz | sure does |
| 18:53.58 | drac | apt-cache show package |
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| 18:54.29 | victor__ | Okay so i'm downloading X and other needed componetns again.. |
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| 18:54.48 | black_13 | does udev subsume using mknod? |
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| 18:55.03 | nvz | cusco: line 3 Section: contrib/misc |
| 18:55.18 | victor__ | Can anyone help me set up X and get it to work? |
| 18:55.19 | gratuit | does sarge use xorg or xfree86? and if xfree what does testing use? |
| 18:55.38 | victor__ | I kind of wonder that too.. |
| 18:55.42 | streuner | victor__: what videocard do you have? |
| 18:55.42 | drac | gratuit: sarge, xfree. testing, xorg. |
| 18:55.50 | black_13 | gratuit ubuntu uses xorg |
| 18:55.55 | nvz | victor__: be more specific, what version of debian, xfree or xorg, what you've done so far, and whats wrong |
| 18:55.55 | victor__ | streuner: I have a Nvidia 6600GT |
| 18:55.56 | drac | black_13: so what? |
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| 18:56.08 | streuner | victor__: /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 18:56.15 | streuner | victor__: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 18:56.20 | drac | gentoo uses xorg too, that's hardly an #debian issue |
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| 18:56.38 | black_13 | yes it does |
| 18:56.38 | nvz | sometimes I feel like we need a little cheerleader shouting BE SPECIFIC B-E SPECIFIC! |
| 18:56.41 | victor__ | nvz: I use debian sarge, the lastest netinstall i think, and right now i'm downloading this package called "x-window-system" |
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| 18:56.43 | nvz | all the time |
| 18:56.47 | Plazma | !cheerleader |
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| 18:57.00 | victor__ | streuner: okay i will |
| 18:57.04 | streuner | Plazma: use /msg dpkg foo, please |
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| 18:57.08 | bruno | how can i install cedega on ubuntu ? |
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| 18:57.09 | phr0zenkore_ | http://pastebin.com/360812 |
| 18:57.13 | phr0zenkore_ | pasting from 2 pc's sucks |
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| 18:57.20 | streuner | bruno: #ubuntu |
| 18:57.21 | drac | bruno: ask #ubuntu |
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| 18:57.24 | nvz | bruno: probably, ask your ubuntu questions in #ubuntu |
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| 18:57.49 | bruno | thnks |
| 18:57.51 | friendship | what if you already used the nvidia installer, how do you get rid of it? |
| 18:57.53 | bruno | but nobidy answer |
| 18:58.02 | black_13 | debian doesnt yet have xorg |
| 18:58.05 | black_13 | ?? |
| 18:58.13 | victor__ | streuner: Uhm.. i /msg:ed.. |
| 18:58.16 | danieldg | black_13: unstable does |
| 18:58.22 | drac | Phr0zenKore: (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available |
| 18:58.29 | flawd-afk | bruno, first of all, get cedega. it comes with instructions |
| 18:58.35 | drac | Phr0zenKore: That's why it's disabled. You don't have AGP support in your kernel. |
| 18:58.37 | black_13 | but if you use sid your on your own? |
| 18:58.41 | drac | Phr0zenKore: Or module isn't just loaded. |
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| 18:58.46 | thingfish | friendship: nvidia-installer --uninstall |
| 18:58.48 | phr0zenkore_ | how do enable it? |
| 18:58.52 | drac | Phr0zenKore: And it has to be loaded BEFORE radeon module. |
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| 18:59.09 | phr0zenkore_ | is everything in Debian a module? |
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| 18:59.18 | phr0zenkore_ | i mean, you don't have to recompile the kernel? |
| 18:59.20 | nvz | victor__: well that package is merely a meta package pulling in the various actual binary packages making up the XFree86 system in sarge.. its a good start and should direct you to the Debian Configuration frontend Debconf to configure it. if you have any problems ask. |
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| 18:59.42 | drac | Phr0zenKore: You don't have to recompile. What kernel are you using? |
| 18:59.56 | phr0zenkore_ | drac: dunno, basic debian netinst |
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| 19:00.14 | amphi | phr0zenkore_: you might - you need agpgart, the agp module for yr chipset, and the drm module for yr card |
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| 19:00.23 | bruno | flawd-afk: i try to install got .deb but the error msg says that i need a newer libc6 and and tried to upgrade but the msg says the i have the newest libc6 so now what can i do ? |
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| 19:00.32 | victor__ | nvz: Well okay.. while installing the packets i get prompted a numerous of times.. and i asnwer accordingly.. then when i start X (by just typing X as root) my system goes nuts.. |
| 19:00.37 | amphi | phr0zenkore_: in that order, AFAIK |
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| 19:00.48 | phr0zenkore_ | Q-Z0R-GAMING:~# modprobe agpgart |
| 19:00.48 | phr0zenkore_ | Q-Z0R-GAMING:~# modprobe drm |
| 19:00.48 | phr0zenkore_ | modprobe: Can't locate module drm |
| 19:00.56 | drac | phr0zenkore_: You probably should install 2.6.8 kernel with apt-get, use apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 19:00.59 | amphi | phr0zenkore_: no |
| 19:01.03 | PepseMac | hey, when you want to install the apache+mysqld+php deb packages, is there a proper order of installing? or does apt-get install apache take care of mysql and php? |
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| 19:01.13 | victor__ | nvz: Also i'm running the 2.6 kernel.. |
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| 19:01.30 | phr0zenkore_ | alright. so i have an outdated kernel? |
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| 19:01.33 | drac | phr0zenkore_: What chipset your motherboard is using? |
| 19:01.36 | amphi | phr0zenkore_: here, I have intel_agp and radeon modules loaded |
| 19:01.41 | drac | phr0zenkore_: lspci will tell you, is it intel, via, sis? |
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| 19:02.02 | phr0zenkore_ | drac: VIA |
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| 19:02.20 | drac | phr0zenkore_: Open /etc/modules in editor, add in this order: via_agp agpgart radeon drm (each on own line) |
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| 19:02.38 | drac | phr0zenkore_: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 (or 686, or k7, depends on your CPU) and boot. |
| 19:02.44 | drac | phr0zenkore_: that should take care of it. |
| 19:02.48 | phr0zenkore_ | okay |
| 19:02.48 | PepseMac | nvz: do you know? |
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| 19:03.31 | c01100011 | nvidia-module brakes xmms what would be the best similar music player alternative ? |
| 19:03.34 | amphi | drac: I think you need to load agpgart before the chipset agp module |
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| 19:03.48 | drac | amphi: Actually, loading via_agp will load automatically agpgart |
| 19:03.53 | drac | amphi: and radeon automatically drm |
| 19:03.55 | victor__ | Okay when i run this lspci command i get a bunch of hexadecs and some text.. |
| 19:03.56 | drac | amphi: I was just making sure :P |
| 19:04.06 | victor__ | How do i actually make aything out of it? |
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| 19:04.39 | drac | amphi: (I'm using 9200 Pro, and VIA motherboard) |
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| 19:05.53 | amphi | drac: oh, ok |
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| 19:06.31 | victor__ | hmm since i really can't get anything to work in debian so far, it's nice to know that i have some tropicana orange juice at least :) |
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| 19:07.16 | tonsofpcs | mmm |
| 19:07.20 | tonsofpcs | i just had some of that :) |
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| 19:07.32 | Phr0zenKore | drac: do i have to do the new kernel? |
| 19:07.38 | tonsofpcs | anyone know where I can get a boot disk that will boot a HDD that the installer saw and installed to, but the BIOS doesn't see? |
| 19:07.39 | Phr0zenKore | it's gonna install lilo, while i have GRUB |
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| 19:08.29 | victor__ | Hmm could 0000:02:00.0 VGA Compatible Controller: nVidia corporation: Unkown Device 00f1 (rev a2) be my grapichscard? |
| 19:08.54 | drac | Phr0zenKore: Apt-getting kernel will install lilo? That can't be right. |
| 19:09.26 | drac | Phr0zenKore: You just apt-get it, boot it, enjoy it. No recompiling, compiling of anykind. |
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| 19:09.46 | victor__ | nvz: are you stillt there? |
| 19:10.05 | Phr0zenKore | drac: i got dri to work cuz of your tips (and didn't apt-get the new kernel), but it still stays at a speed of 600 kb/s |
| 19:10.07 | azeem | victor__: yeah, this is it |
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| 19:10.18 | azeem | doesn't look to good, though |
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| 19:10.27 | victor__ | azeem: What do you mean? |
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| 19:10.40 | azeem | victor__: run lspci -n, compare the first numbers, and lookup the PCI IDs |
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| 19:10.44 | azeem | (if you haven't done already) |
| 19:10.47 | drac | Phr0zenKore: I recommended a new kernel because DRM (DRI) in 2.4 kernels is so old. And slow. |
| 19:10.49 | amphi | Phr0zenKore: fps? |
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| 19:11.11 | azeem | nighthawk~$ lspci | grep VGA |
| 19:11.11 | azeem | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] |
| 19:11.14 | azeem | nighthawk~$ lspci -n | grep '0000:01:00.0' |
| 19:11.17 | azeem | 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1002:4c57 |
| 19:11.19 | azeem | like this |
| 19:11.34 | Phr0zenKore | drac: yea but it's trying to install lilo |
| 19:11.35 | drac | azeem: lspci -X | grep -i vga |
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| 19:11.44 | cadu | WOOHOOO |
| 19:11.49 | cadu | xorg made into testing ? |
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| 19:11.56 | Plazma | cadu, yea |
| 19:11.59 | victor__ | azeem: okay i see that the last line is basicly the same as the one i wrote here before.. |
| 19:12.02 | Plazma | cadu, it runs very very well too |
| 19:12.12 | cadu | Plazma: that was my second question :) |
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| 19:12.26 | cadu | Plazma: hope it works nicely with my *ahem* nvidia card |
| 19:12.35 | cadu | people have been getting crazy with linux+nvidia+xorg |
| 19:12.44 | Phr0zenKore | drac: it's trying to install lilo |
| 19:12.46 | Plazma | cadu, i have it in vmware using a default VESA driver, and i have an ati radeon 9800 pro so |
| 19:12.46 | Phr0zenKore | what should i do? |
| 19:12.52 | Plazma | mmm lilo |
| 19:13.00 | cadu | Plazma: ah nice, i have vmware too :) |
| 19:13.00 | Phr0zenKore | when i apt-get the new kernel |
| 19:13.06 | boozle | Hi: I'm running debian/sarge and sshd.Now a user can log into my box even though i've changed their passwd.What conditions makes that possible for said user? |
| 19:13.14 | sguerra | does any body can tell me how i can write the numeric sing? |
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| 19:14.21 | Phr0zenKore | drac: it's trying to install lilo when i apt-get 2.6.8, what should i do? |
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| 19:14.52 | c01100011 | nvidia-module brakes xmms what would be the best similar music player alternative ? |
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| 19:15.11 | drac | Phr0zenKore: I have no idea, it doesn't "depend" on lilo, it just "suggests" it |
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| 19:15.15 | Phr0zenKore | c01100011: mplayer |
| 19:15.19 | victor__ | azeem: Okay i dida that lspci | grep VGA thing and it gave me the same line that i got with just lspci.. but it only showed the VGA controller |
| 19:15.21 | drac | Phr0zenKore: are you positive it doesn't just suggest it? |
| 19:15.23 | Phr0zenKore | drac: and it won't overwrite grub? |
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| 19:15.41 | priest | boozle:: Check your auth-log and see if he got in via a publickey. |
| 19:15.48 | azeem | victor__: no do lspci -n to get the PCI IDs, and google for them, that might give you some hints |
| 19:15.52 | azeem | s/no/now/ |
| 19:16.18 | priest | boozle:: grep publickey /var/log/auth.log |
| 19:16.23 | Phr0zenKore | it suggests lil.o |
| 19:16.25 | Phr0zenKore | lilo* |
| 19:16.28 | Phr0zenKore | so it doesn't install lilo? |
| 19:16.36 | eXistenZ | when I try to copy and paste a picture to openoffice it doesn't work, how can I fix it? |
| 19:16.37 | drac | victor__: You can run update-pciids to update lspci information. |
| 19:16.46 | drac | Phr0zenKore: No, it just suggests it. |
| 19:16.52 | Phr0zenKore | drac: phwew |
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| 19:17.04 | Phr0zenKore | downloading.. |
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| 19:17.27 | Phr0zenKore | installed |
| 19:17.30 | Phr0zenKore | should i reboot? |
| 19:17.42 | victor__ | azeem: okay but it's not so easy to use www when i don't have ant fancy grapichs.. |
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| 19:18.05 | azeem | victor__: hrm :( |
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| 19:18.13 | paulswm | !doesn't work |
| 19:18.13 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 19:18.27 | azeem | paulswm: who was that for? |
| 19:18.32 | boozle | priest: It looks like this >p 9 20:37:59 darkness sshd[5546]: Accepted publickey for booto from 213.239.2 |
| 19:18.33 | boozle | 09.201 port 39787 ssh2 |
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| 19:18.36 | boozle | Sep 11 19:07:27 darkness sshd[16984]: Accepted publickey for booto from 213.239. |
| 19:18.38 | boozle | 209.201 port 53790 ssh2 |
| 19:18.41 | boozle | Sep 11 19:50:11 darkness sshd[17166]: Accepted publickey for booto from 213.239. |
| 19:18.43 | boozle | 209.201 port 39752 ssh2 |
| 19:19.10 | paulswm | Azar: Should have used tell, sorry, was for eXistenZ |
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| 19:19.22 | victor__ | azeem: soon i have downloaded the "x-window-system" and all the pachades it requires.. |
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| 19:20.27 | azeem | victor__: try update-pciids as drac suggested |
| 19:20.34 | priest | boozle:: Yes, to disable that, you have to delete his keys. They are located in the home-dir in .ssh/, and are named "id_rsa" and "id_rsa.pub". |
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| 19:21.14 | victor__ | azeem: "Acces denied. Download failed" |
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| 19:21.31 | boozle | priest: So if the auth keys are still their then he can still log in with his passwd being changed? |
| 19:21.40 | victor__ | azeem: maybe i need to be root |
| 19:21.47 | priest | boozle:: Sorry, i'm tierd now :), you should remove the file "authoriezed_keys" |
| 19:21.47 | eXistenZ | paulswm: didn't see it =/ |
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| 19:21.52 | azeem | yes |
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| 19:22.16 | Phr0zenKore | like wow it worked |
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| 19:22.34 | priest | boozle:: Yes, if he has his key in "authorized_keys" he can login without password. |
| 19:22.37 | boozle | priest: Tks for your time :-) |
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| 19:22.44 | victor__ | azeem: woho! it worked.. now it downloaded womthing from sourcefourge.net.. now what? |
| 19:22.50 | PepseMac | is there a more suitable channel to ask about installing apache+mysql+php deb packages? |
| 19:23.04 | azeem | victor__: hrm, try lspci again, and see whether the VGA line is more meaningful now |
| 19:23.13 | Phr0zenKore | thank you all |
| 19:23.15 | Phr0zenKore | thank you drac |
| 19:23.16 | Phr0zenKore | ^^ |
| 19:23.30 | devonst17 | Hey guys, im new at debian, it seems cool off the bat, but i am a bit confused on how to install the NVidia drivers (version 7676) |
| 19:23.39 | PepseMac | I'm trying to figure out the proper order of installing them... |
| 19:23.49 | victor__ | azeem: hell yeah! Now it list's a Nvidia 6600GT |
| 19:23.54 | amphi | devonst17: with much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth |
| 19:23.57 | Phr0zenKore | like wow i love debian |
| 19:23.58 | Phr0zenKore | ^^ |
| 19:24.00 | victor__ | azeem: Thanks for the help! |
| 19:24.17 | thingfish | !tell devonst17 about nvidia one-liner |
| 19:24.22 | Phr0zenKore | what's better, gentoo or debian? |
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| 19:24.29 | Phr0zenKore | !tell Phr0zenKore about glx |
| 19:24.29 | amphi | devonst17: /msg dpkg nv & nvidia will give you some info I believe |
| 19:25.03 | devonst17 | amphi i see, thanks |
| 19:25.10 | paulswm | azeem: Anyway, it's good general advice and I dont understand the purpose of your question |
| 19:25.16 | azeem | victor__: which version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:25.17 | priest | boozle:: You can disable pubkey on your ssh-server with "PubkeyAuthentication no" in your sshd_config. |
| 19:25.20 | HellKat | I am having a problem with Gimp, Whenever I go to start a new file, my gnome toolbar (for lack of a better word) Freaks out,and starts shaking back and forth, |
| 19:25.27 | PepseMac | I know in gentoo you can set mysqld and php in the use flags, then emerging apache will also build mysql/php |
| 19:25.31 | devonst17 | thingfish: that was completely incomprehensable to me |
| 19:25.35 | devonst17 | thingfish: :( |
| 19:25.37 | victor__ | azeem: Don't really know :/ but there is a command for that right? |
| 19:25.40 | azeem | paulswm: sorry, I was just confused who said "didn't work", as I overlooked his line |
| 19:25.50 | azeem | victor__: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:25.54 | victor__ | azeem: Just know that i run sarge |
| 19:25.56 | amphi | !tell devonst17 about nv |
| 19:25.58 | azeem | victor__: ok |
| 19:26.00 | PepseMac | i can't tell how to do that in debian tho |
| 19:26.12 | c01100011 | devonst17 i recomend http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
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| 19:26.16 | victor__ | azeem: is that enough info? Sarge with the 2.6 kernel |
| 19:26.21 | HellKat | I am having a problem with Gimp, Whenever I go to start a new file, my gnome toolbar (for lack of a better word) Freaks out,and starts shaking back and forth, |
| 19:26.25 | bucky | PepseMac, most debian newbies don't know how to uncomment php in my.cnf |
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| 19:26.29 | tonsofpcs | anyone know of a pre-made boot floppy image that i can use to boot GRUB on a HDD that the BIOS doesn't see properly, but debian installer did see [and installed to]? |
| 19:26.33 | nvz | I cant really find any big difference between mpg321 and madplay they both use libmad0 libid3tag0 and zlib1g and fixed point math. just mpg321 uses libao1 and madplay uses esd libs and I guess handles ALSA/OSS using native code cause it doesnt seem to depend on any other sound libs other than esd |
| 19:26.45 | azeem | victor__: what does dpkg -l xserver-common say as version? |
| 19:26.51 | thingfish | devonst17: add 'contrib' and 'non-free' after 'main' in your /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 19:27.02 | PepseMac | bucky: I didn't even know my.cnf existed |
| 19:27.03 | HellKat | How do I turn off ESD? |
| 19:27.12 | nvz | HellKat: killall esound |
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| 19:27.15 | paulswm | azeem: Sorry for the confusion, I see you were busy :) |
| 19:27.21 | HellKat | I mean perminately |
| 19:27.24 | SerajewelKS | big question that people are probably going to fight about: is it worth switching to xorg on testing? |
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| 19:27.31 | nvz | HellKat: apt-get --purge remove esd |
| 19:27.40 | HellKat | thanks |
| 19:27.41 | cadu | SerajewelKS: i wanna know that one too ! |
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| 19:27.51 | victor__ | azeem: bash: dkpg command not found |
| 19:27.51 | boozle | exit |
| 19:27.57 | azeem | victor__: dpkg |
| 19:28.07 | valdyn | nvz: libao controls mpg321 output, so /etc/libao.conf, iirc |
| 19:28.10 | paulswm | SerajewelKS: I switched to xorg on a dist-upgrade, haven't had any problems with it, but I have fairly non-funky hardware |
| 19:28.15 | Plazma | In x.org.. how do i 1, stop an automatic graphical login, and 2, change the enviroment it starts with |
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| 19:28.29 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, dpkg -r kdm xdm gdm |
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| 19:28.49 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, assuming by "stop" you mean "not automatically start when i reboot" |
| 19:28.57 | Plazma | yes |
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| 19:29.06 | Plazma | i want them there but i dont want them to startup necessarily |
| 19:29.10 | SerajewelKS | paulswm, what graphics hardware? |
| 19:29.16 | nvz | valdyn: I was just trying to play an mp3 with cplay last night and didnt have a player installed.. I was sitting there torn between madplay and mpg321 and couldnt seem to find any real difference other than the libao |
| 19:29.27 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, rm them from /etc/rc5.d |
| 19:29.37 | victor__ | azeem: It lists a bunch of options for that command.. |
| 19:29.54 | azeem | 'dpkg -l xserver-common' |
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| 19:30.02 | tjostolf | Plazma: /etc/init.d/xdm remove |
| 19:30.03 | PepseMac | bucky: |
| 19:30.04 | PepseMac | $ sudo find . -name "my.cnf" |
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| 19:30.06 | PepseMac | $ |
| 19:30.14 | Plazma | woa.. |
| 19:30.22 | victor__ | azeem: i have all the X componetns downloaded.. shuld i proceed with installing them? |
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| 19:30.48 | Plazma | ahah.. its xdm afterall |
| 19:30.51 | rory123 | yes |
| 19:30.54 | azeem | victor__: I guess |
| 19:30.56 | `bykte | hey is there an alternative irc client non gui for debian that has the same function as mirc /dccserver? |
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| 19:31.33 | HellKat | nvz: The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 19:31.33 | HellKat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.34 | HellKat | Does that REMOVE Gnome?!?! |
| 19:31.46 | caphuso | HellKat: no |
| 19:31.47 | enyc | hellk: sort of, it removes metapackages |
| 19:31.47 | nvz | HellKat: yep, fortunatly you dont need it |
| 19:31.53 | victor__ | azeem: okay now it wan'ts to configure xorg x server.. |
| 19:31.54 | paulswm | SerajewelKS: ATI XPERT 2000 AGP 32MB, that's a Rage128 |
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| 19:31.56 | PepseMac | bykte: there is an f-serve command line client |
| 19:32.01 | HellKat | ok, thanks |
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| 19:32.07 | `bykte | PepseMac, which one is it sir? |
| 19:32.07 | SerajewelKS | paulswm, thing x.org would be happy with a geforce? |
| 19:32.11 | enyc | helk: gnome doesnt really have much in it, just lots of.. other sub-packages.. remoinv those will cause update problems ;p |
| 19:32.16 | rory123 | heh |
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| 19:32.16 | victor__ | azeem: it's asking wheater it shpoudl try to autodetect hardware or not... |
| 19:32.24 | HellKat | scared me there, |
| 19:32.25 | HellKat | thanks |
| 19:32.25 | PepseMac | bykte: hmm. Its been a while since I used it.. lemme google. |
| 19:32.29 | paulswm | SerajewelKS: Wouldn't know, I suspect someone here would though |
| 19:32.35 | enyc | helk: if you are trying to avoid esound, I suggest another way, dont remove esound... |
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| 19:32.51 | azeem | victor__: just follow the questions as good as you can, and see whether it works |
| 19:32.55 | azeem | gotta go now |
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| 19:33.04 | SerajewelKS | has anyone switch to xorg on testing with an nvidia geforce? (yes, i'm taking a poll) |
| 19:33.06 | enyc | helk: are you having problems with 'esd' ? |
| 19:33.09 | SerajewelKS | switched* |
| 19:33.10 | Plazma | ok then.. heres one.. say i want it to use a gui login.. but i want to change the environment... where would i do that? |
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| 19:33.15 | nvz | enyc: do you not have a tab key? or a client that supports tab completion? |
| 19:33.25 | `bykte | crap, sourceforge.net gives me a blank page.. |
| 19:33.27 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, most gui logins have a "session" button or menu |
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| 19:33.45 | PepseMac | bykte: Hmm. Its taking me a second to find it. But also, there is a dcc server bot called iroffer. Not the same as f-serve tho |
| 19:33.46 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, on kdm it's under the "menu" button |
| 19:33.47 | PepseMac | just dcc offer bot |
| 19:33.55 | Plazma | ahh |
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| 19:34.03 | nvz | enyc: you could type 1 or more less keys and actually use his whole nick when you speak to him |
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| 19:34.12 | Plazma | sarajewl. i was asking more speicifcally about the file i could modify to change that |
| 19:34.15 | victor__ | azeem. sure.. that's what i've done the last 6 or 10 times and it always ended up the same way, with a grey screen with yellow lines, and i had to format and reinstall |
| 19:34.17 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.45 | nvz | one of my mp3s suddenly doesnt work anymore :P |
| 19:34.48 | enyc | nvz: 1 or more ''less keys'' ???? |
| 19:34.50 | `bykte | oh.. |
| 19:35.07 | `bykte | i need a client not bot. |
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| 19:35.18 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, you don't have to change a file... you log in with a different session. why does that not work? |
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| 19:35.25 | nvz | enyc: yeah you are typing out four letters of his nick, when I only type one and still end up with his whole nick in the line |
| 19:35.31 | Plazma | brbv |
| 19:35.48 | enyc | nvz: heh im used to telnet-talkers, not irc ;-) |
| 19:36.00 | Plazma | sarajewel. a different session like gdm or w/e? |
| 19:36.06 | flawd-afk | try to upgrade to testing. some packages are held back. how do I force to upgrade them? (ardour and x-window-system-core) |
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| 19:36.18 | nvz | enyc: did they just pull you out of a cryogenic freezer last night? |
| 19:36.19 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, like kde or gnome or icewm |
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| 19:36.41 | nostradam | hi guys..just installed awstats on Debian Sarge...configured to read my postfix log..when I try to browse the awstats I get: |
| 19:36.43 | Plazma | sarajewle. right now im in xfce4.. want to switch to gnome.. so i have to get a gnome session? |
| 19:36.45 | nostradam | solemnwarning: Perl versions before 5.6 cannot handle nested includes |
| 19:36.49 | enyc | nvz: ??they?? |
| 19:36.49 | nostradam | any ideas..? |
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| 19:37.06 | Mortalman | How do I change what members are a part of a group ? |
| 19:37.09 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, please type my nick correctly.. it makes it a lot easier to respond if you highlight me |
| 19:37.17 | azeem | victor__: 1. don't reinstall. 2. You have pretty new hardware I think, so maybe you should install xorg rather than xfree86 |
| 19:37.20 | Plazma | sarajewelKS, sorry im being lazy |
| 19:37.24 | nvz | enyc: well naturally you cant unfreeze yourself and it takes many technicians to make sure the proceedure goes smoothly and you awake propely |
| 19:37.32 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, yes, you'd log out and select the "gnome" session in your display manager |
| 19:37.39 | azeem | victor__: however, xorg is only in sarge since yesterday, that's why I wanted to know xserver-common's version |
| 19:37.42 | enyc | nvz: yes, Im confused about a ''they'' -- not defined |
| 19:37.43 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, again |
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| 19:37.50 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, you're making typos |
| 19:37.50 | azeem | victor__: so, try to install xorg |
| 19:37.58 | flawd-afk | try to upgrade to testing. some packages are held back. how do I force to upgrade them? (ardour and x-window-system-core) I tried "apt-get update""apt-get dist-upgrade" with no luck |
| 19:38.08 | Plazma | SarajewelKS, i dont have the option for a new session when i logout |
| 19:38.10 | nkuttler | Mortalman: man adduser, deluser |
| 19:38.25 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, ARG.. use tab completion if you can't spell it |
| 19:38.27 | nvz | enyc: the people who turned you into a block of ice and stored you until last night when you were thawed. and came back online to realize telnet isnt used anymore |
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| 19:38.46 | PepseMac | bykte: there are cli clients, like ircii, BitchX, irssi, epic, etc |
| 19:38.47 | Plazma | SerajewelKS, sorry |
| 19:38.59 | Plazma | SerajewelKS, i didn't see the "e" |
| 19:39.02 | vogella | I am running "testing" and would like to install one package from unstable. Can you drop me a good keyword so that I can google for a "how-to"? |
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| 19:39.04 | Mortalman | nkuttler: I don't want a new user or group. I want to edit an existing group. |
| 19:39.05 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, there is no "session type" button? |
| 19:39.13 | PepseMac | bykte: most of them either support dcc offering or have scripts that do |
| 19:39.20 | Plazma | SerajewelKS, not that i see.. all i have is an xdm login screen |
| 19:39.22 | PepseMac | bykte: But if you want an actual f-serve like mirc's you'd have to run a seperate bot |
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| 19:39.37 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, might want to try gdm or kdm then... i don't know if xdm has that option |
| 19:40.12 | nkuttler | Mortalman: did you ever read the man pages i told you to read? |
| 19:40.16 | Mortalman | nkuttler: thanks, didn't read far enough. |
| 19:40.21 | Plazma | SerajewelKS, im sure there is another way, becuase i would still possibly like to use xdm later |
| 19:40.25 | nkuttler | Mortalman: np |
| 19:40.25 | Mortalman | hehe |
| 19:40.41 | SerajewelKS | Plazma, you mean to change the default session type? |
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| 19:40.51 | tcsetattr | I missed the beginning of this. What is Plazma trying to do? xdm has a failsafe mode... |
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| 19:41.16 | Plazma | tcsetattr, trying to change the default enviromnet i get when i login to my debian box |
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| 19:41.27 | nvz | I wonder, is there something in debian that can act like a pitch pipe to tune my guitar.. since gtkguitune pissed me off royally for bouncing around so much I couldnt tell which of 20 proposed notes I was actually playing. |
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| 19:41.41 | tcsetattr | Plazma, when you login via xdm, your ~/.xsession is executed if present. If not, a system default (/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession perhaps?) is run. |
| 19:41.58 | Plazma | tcsetattr, hmmmm let me check that out |
| 19:42.04 | PepseMac | nvz: any idea what order to install the packages if I want apache+mysql+php? |
| 19:42.11 | nvz | I tuned last night, but I played the shit out of it and now it doesnt seem to match up with the song I just played |
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| 19:42.53 | PepseMac | nvz: isnt there some kinda music program that can generate a low E for you? |
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| 19:42.56 | nvz | PepseMac: I dont know shit about any of them.. but order never has mattered in debian in the 5 years i've used it.. you type in what you want, it does that shit for you |
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| 19:43.17 | nvz | I dont want a low E :P but thats what I am looking for a note generator |
| 19:43.25 | michael | hi i have problem with text being a bit blury under x |
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| 19:43.26 | PepseMac | nvz: ok, maybe I'll try installing php first, then mysql, then when apache gets installed it should see them |
| 19:43.26 | thingfish | PepseMac: iirc, the apache install asks you if you want to install the others, so do it first. |
| 19:43.30 | michael | can anyone help |
| 19:43.34 | Mortalman | If I impose a disk quota of 1 gig on a group with five members, do they each get 1 gig or do they share it ? |
| 19:43.43 | PepseMac | thingfish: oh really? just apt-get install apache should do it? |
| 19:44.11 | thingfish | PepseMac: you want apache, or apache2? |
| 19:44.15 | nkuttler | michael: sounds like anti-aliasing, in which app? |
| 19:44.25 | SerajewelKS | PepseMac, apt-get install apache2 mysql-server-4.1 libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 19:44.27 | PepseMac | thingfish: I don't know. Is there an advantage to apache2? |
| 19:44.31 | michael | in Konqueror |
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| 19:44.36 | PepseMac | SerajewelKS: Thanks |
| 19:44.37 | phr0zenkore_ | /dev/sequencer doesn't exist |
| 19:44.38 | michael | yeah i think that is proably it |
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| 19:44.43 | cadu | Mortalman: read your own question :) |
| 19:44.45 | tcsetattr | nvz, it isn't hard to generate a square wave or sine wave with perl and feed it to the sound card with sox's /usr/bin/play... if you like to get your hands dirty that way |
| 19:44.45 | phr0zenkore_ | oss compatibility isn't there oO |
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| 19:44.53 | thingfish | someone who uses it would have to tell you that, PepseMac. One assumes newer is better. |
| 19:44.58 | nkuttler | michael: don't use that, look if you can change that in the font prefs somewhere |
| 19:44.59 | SerajewelKS | PepseMac, oh and php4-mysql |
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| 19:45.10 | nvz | tcsetattr: if I knew enough about that shit I would just fix that piece of crap gtkguitune |
| 19:45.10 | nkuttler | michael: i mean _i_ don't use it |
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| 19:45.24 | Mortalman | cadu: Why? Does it not make sense ? |
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| 19:45.39 | PepseMac | SerajewelKS: Awesome. Are there much advantages in using apache2? And does it require more resources or anything? |
| 19:45.45 | michael | i think the text looks a bit iffy in all the aplications |
| 19:45.57 | michael | could it be something to do with x |
| 19:45.59 | SerajewelKS | PepseMac, in my experience it's a lot easier to configure |
| 19:46.12 | PepseMac | SerajewelKS: Ok, thanks :) |
| 19:46.15 | SerajewelKS | PepseMac, it supports a lot of new config directives too, so you can do some weird obscure things |
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| 19:46.46 | PepseMac | SerajewelKS: that may come in handy. |
| 19:47.00 | nvz | tcsetattr: its more like what I want, but it cant make up its mind.. I am using an evaluation of AP Tuner 3 for windows right now and have to goto a windows box everytime I need to retune. but at least AP Tuner shows what note I am on and how far off.. gtkguitune I can play a perfectly tuned E note from AP Tuner and it will say within 30 seconds that it is every not on the scale. |
| 19:47.02 | nkuttler | michael: do they look blurry in xterm? |
| 19:47.10 | SerajewelKS | brb all, going to try xorg and see if it bites me |
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| 19:47.33 | riddlebox | is there a place where the default config for the kernel is placed so I can just make a few changes in my new kernel? |
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| 19:47.48 | Plazma | where in Xsession do i tell it what gui i want to use |
| 19:47.51 | nkuttler | riddlebox: current configs are in /boot |
| 19:47.51 | Zedman | !hostname |
| 19:47.51 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist |
| 19:47.54 | nvz | tcsetattr: its caused me to break guitar strings following its stupid ever changing indicator |
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| 19:48.02 | tcsetattr | nvz: apt-get install bplay; perl -e 'while(){print "\x00" x 50; print "\x7f" x 50}' | bplay -s44000 # 440Hz "A" |
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| 19:49.00 | nkuttler | Plazma: which one do you want to use? |
| 19:49.13 | Plazma | nkuttler.. id like to use gnome |
| 19:49.29 | nkuttler | Plazma: why don't you use gdm? |
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| 19:49.44 | Plazma | nkuttler, dont know .. guess i could, im expiermenting |
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| 19:50.00 | nvz | tcsetattr: doh! I just installed and ran that on a box that doesnt have sound like an Idiot |
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| 19:50.10 | nvz | this synergy station is confusing sometimes |
| 19:50.28 | victor__ | azeem: Hey, sorry i had to go eat a little bit.. |
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| 19:51.38 | nvz | thats a bit nerve racking :P |
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| 19:51.42 | tjostolf | Plazma: do first '/etc/init.d/xdm remove' , and then '/etc/init.d/gdm default' as root |
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| 19:52.04 | victor__ | azeem: Okay, i put allt the info in as good as i could in the "blue boxes" :) and set the maximum resulotion to 640x400 |
| 19:52.27 | victor__ | i'm still afraid to start X.. i bet it will crash my system again.. |
| 19:52.40 | `bykte | can vlc player plays .rm format files? |
| 19:52.46 | azeem | victor__: pressing ctrl+alt+backspace does not bring it back to console? |
| 19:52.54 | michael | but under kde its not as good |
| 19:52.55 | azeem | victor__: also, you can try using the vesa driver first |
| 19:52.58 | nkuttler | tjostolf: are you sure that syntax is supported? |
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| 19:53.44 | victor__ | azeem: it never prompted me with any driver question :S |
| 19:53.45 | tjostolf | Plazma: in Sarge : yes |
| 19:53.45 | nvz | I think it would be easier to install wine and run a decent tuner program or something. I was going to install windows on one of these computers but my windows cds were fucked up |
| 19:54.11 | azeem | victor__: that's because of the autodetection I guess |
| 19:54.30 | victor__ | azeem: maybe so.. |
| 19:54.32 | azeem | victor__: you can see what driver it uses in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 19:54.51 | victor__ | azeem: okay.. i'm gonna start X now.. |
| 19:54.58 | azeem | grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 19:56.29 | nvz | yeah gtkguitune doesnt know if I am playing an E, a G, and A or a Bb :P I am going to see if I can play with it some more and get it to quit bouncing around like a piece of shit |
| 19:56.29 | victor__ | azeem: it says that the file or folder doen not exist.. |
| 19:56.30 | anjumbutt | hi all |
| 19:56.38 | spldart | have some newb questions. How do I get my slave hdd and my floppy mounted in my new netinst debian install? |
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| 19:56.51 | Mortalman | How do I go about forcing apt-get to reinstall something ? |
| 19:57.10 | Mortalman | like, don't check anything and just overwrite the files. |
| 19:57.17 | azeem | victor__: so you are running Xfree86 still, I guess |
| 19:57.40 | nkuttler | spldart: with mount? does the bios recognize the slave correctly? |
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| 19:57.49 | azeem | victor__: xorg has much better driver support, so your graphics card might be supported by it |
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| 19:58.23 | tjostolf | Plazma: I'm sorry . It is 'update-rc.d xdm remove' and 'update-rc.d gdm defaults' |
| 19:58.33 | Plazma | tjostolf, thanks |
| 19:58.34 | victor__ | azeem: zeem i have no idea, all i have done is what you have told me about that update-pciids and also i have downloaded the "x-window-system" packet, and i installed them with aptitude.. |
| 19:58.47 | spldart | nkuttler... floppy and hdd slave are recognized properly by bios and are usable |
| 19:58.48 | nkuttler | Mortalman: purge the package and install |
| 19:58.50 | HellKat | In windows: If something crashs, you blame it on microsoft, and laugh |
| 19:58.50 | HellKat | in linux: If something crashes, you configured it wrong |
| 19:58.50 | HellKat | in Palm OS: If something crashes, its the weather |
| 19:58.50 | HellKat | in SUN OS: If something crashes, Its the first sign of the apocolypse |
| 19:58.50 | HellKat | in UNIX: If Something crashes, You had bugs in your code |
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| 19:59.04 | nkuttler | spldart: so why don't you mount it? |
| 19:59.18 | spldart | netinst did partition work on both hd's before installing |
| 19:59.36 | tcsetattr | In IRC: if something kicks you off the channel, you were a waste of protein |
| 19:59.42 | spldart | but fstab only shows main and swap partition in master hdd |
| 19:59.49 | spldart | cdrom also shows |
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| 20:00.10 | cadu | tcsetattr: ahahhaha |
| 20:00.12 | azeem | victor__: you might need to press 'u' (update) in aptitude, so that it sees xorg |
| 20:00.12 | daniel76 | Hello. |
| 20:00.29 | daniel76 | Does someone knows a Linux VPN Client to connect to a Netscreen VPN ? |
| 20:00.48 | Plazma | omg gdm is so much nicer than xdm! |
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| 20:00.57 | MustangMatt | daniel76: I'm not positive but i think OpenVPN will do it. |
| 20:01.04 | nkuttler | spldart: you can probably mount hdbX |
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| 20:01.21 | victor__ | azeem: i looked into installed packages and i do have xorg zserver installed.. |
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| 20:01.51 | azeem | victor__: hrm, ok. Then you should have an xorg.conf as well, though |
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| 20:02.35 | cadu | !nerim |
| 20:02.36 | dpkg | well, nerim is http://hpisi.nerim.net/ , a place to get many sound&video editing tools, including mplayer & other fine programs. |
| 20:02.46 | Plazma | !booze |
| 20:02.52 | chance2105 | What is an elegant solution to using usbmount with KDE .. eg, I'd like to be able to add a device icon to the desktop and be able to automatically unmount a usb key once it's mounted .. is that possible? |
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| 20:03.09 | victor__ | azeem: i guess so.. |
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| 20:03.55 | azeem | victor__: well, you can check /var/log/XFree86.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log for hints as well |
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| 20:04.17 | azeem | how can I tell svn to include deleted files into a diff? |
| 20:04.27 | flawd-afk | try to upgrade to testing. some packages are held back. how do I force to upgrade them? (ardour and x-window-system-core) I tried "apt-get update""apt-get dist-upgrade" with no luck |
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| 20:04.52 | victor__ | azeem: that hmm... let see "grep /var/log/xfree86.0.log right? |
| 20:04.57 | intrr | hi. just a quick question, i have copied a few new PS1 fonts to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, how would i register them with X11? I think it's done with defoma, but not sure... |
| 20:05.12 | azeem | victor__: no, not grep. less is good for that |
| 20:05.40 | victor__ | azeem: okay.. i still don't know the basic commands.. and there isn't much inbuilt help in debian either :( |
| 20:05.43 | azeem | flawd-afk: you need to supply the crucial part of the error message |
| 20:05.48 | azeem | victor__: yeah :-/ |
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| 20:06.55 | cahoot | flawd-afk: you don't think they're held back for a reason, like waitng for libs to catch up? |
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| 20:07.48 | nvz | "Why not use FFT like many other tuning devices? Well because other tuning devices are not as fast as mine !!" yeah his is real fast and guessing a single note is at more than 7 different pitches... fuckin idiot :P |
| 20:07.52 | victor__ | azeem: says it can't find the file or folder.. |
| 20:08.19 | azeem | victor__: cd to change into the directory, ls to see which files are in there |
| 20:08.24 | rory123 | heh |
| 20:08.31 | victor__ | azeem: thanks mate.. |
| 20:08.32 | azeem | victor__: it's XFree86.0.log, Unix is case-sensitive |
| 20:08.42 | nvz | I can get an ape to throw balls of shit at any of 7 notes on a wall and get more accuracy |
| 20:08.46 | victor__ | azeem: oh didn't know that.. |
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| 20:09.13 | azeem | victor__: heh, so look out for /etc/X11/xorg.conf, with a upper-cased 'X11' ;) |
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| 20:09.39 | flawd-afk | "the following packets have been hold back:" (translated from my locale) ardoour-gtk x-window-system-core. |
| 20:09.41 | flawd-afk | thats it |
| 20:09.47 | bandito | howdy all, i know this is more of an #exim question but that channel seems pretty much dead so i'm getting desperate... does anyone use exim4 + postgresql? |
| 20:09.48 | victor__ | azeem: I CD:ed to /var and did a ls and i got nothing.. |
| 20:09.54 | azeem | flawd-afk: try to apt-get install them individually |
| 20:09.59 | azeem | victor__: it's in log |
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| 20:10.38 | flawd-afk | will try Azar |
| 20:10.43 | flawd-afk | azeem sorry |
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| 20:11.14 | viper | how can I FULLY remove samba ?? with apt-get remove samba ... it just partly removed.. |
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| 20:11.27 | victor__ | azeem: uhm.. i'm not sure that i understand.. |
| 20:11.30 | azeem | viper: man apt-get , search for 'purge' |
| 20:11.46 | viper | azeem thnx |
| 20:11.46 | azeem | victor__: well, I'm not sure this is going anywhere. |
| 20:11.47 | victor__ | azeem: all i can say is that i'm a total newbie.. but i'm trying my best.. |
| 20:11.56 | argiz | hi, i've isntalling a ldap+samba, well, i've a problem with the proxy user of the ldap |
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| 20:12.17 | azeem | viper: I suggest you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg, whichever is installed), and select 'vesa' as graphic driver |
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| 20:12.25 | victor__ | azeem: But Xorg xserver IS installed, well at least accoring to aptitude. |
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| 20:12.29 | argiz | i've created that user until a ldiff file and after import with ldapadd -x -D "cn=root,dc=ejemplo,dc=net" -W -f /tmp/proxy.ldif |
| 20:12.32 | danny | identify anana |
| 20:12.37 | azeem | victor__: reconfigure will let you reconfigure it |
| 20:12.42 | victor__ | okay.. |
| 20:12.42 | argiz | the ldiff file is: |
| 20:12.43 | argiz | dn: cn=proxyuser,dc=ejemplo,dc=net |
| 20:12.43 | argiz | cn: proxyuser |
| 20:12.43 | argiz | sn: proxyuser |
| 20:12.43 | argiz | objectclass: top |
| 20:12.43 | argiz | objectclass: person |
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| 20:12.55 | danny | nick |
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| 20:13.10 | flawd-afk | seems to work azeem |
| 20:13.15 | azeem | flawd-afk: hrm |
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| 20:13.23 | azeem | flawd-afk: so maybe some inter-dependency issues with the others |
| 20:13.37 | azeem | flawd-afk: is apt-get install upgrade/dist-upgrade working now? |
| 20:13.39 | flawd-afk | what is the xserver on sarge? it asks me if I want xfree or xorg on testing |
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| 20:13.48 | azeem | flawd-afk: it's xorg now |
| 20:13.53 | flawd-afk | azeem I am installing x-window-system-core |
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| 20:14.08 | flawd-afk | azeem, I want the old xconfig that I use to work so I want the xserver I had on sarge |
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| 20:14.11 | azeem | victor__: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and select vesa as driver |
| 20:14.22 | jk3 | having trouble upgrading esound-common from 0.2.35-2.1 to 0.2.36-1... /usr/share/doc-base/esound-common: cannot open control file for reading: No such file or directory ... anyone seen this before? |
| 20:14.34 | flawd-afk | azeem, ok so the default xserver on sarge is xorg? then I should select xorg as my xserver I guess |
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| 20:14.46 | motumaa | ya se me ha vuelto a quedar el nick pillao |
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| 20:15.11 | thingfish | the default xserver in sarge is xserver-xfree86 |
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| 20:15.41 | nvz | !+info xserver-xorg sarge |
| 20:15.42 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 20:15.53 | nvz | its not the default its the only |
| 20:15.54 | dpkg | Package 'xserver-xorg' does not exist. |
| 20:16.04 | thingfish | yes I was thinking that myself. |
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| 20:16.11 | nvz | there is not xorg for sarge |
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| 20:16.43 | bandito | howdy all, i know this is more of an #exim question but that channel seems pretty much dead... does anyone use exim4 + postgresql? i'm getting '550 relay not permitted' to my virtual domains, and my local_domains line is: domainlist local_domains = ${lookup pgsql{select distinct name from domains}} |
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| 20:18.15 | victor__ | azeem: okay now we're getting somewhere.. |
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| 20:18.58 | flawd-afk | azeem, yes it works now. Strange huh |
| 20:19.02 | victor__ | azeem: uhmm it want's to know wich amount of RAM my gfx card has... it's a 128mb card.. heh |
| 20:19.14 | victor__ | azeem: how many kBs is that? |
| 20:19.20 | nvz | I think I found a better tuner using FFT instead of fucktard algos like gtkguitune.. waiting for build deps to try it out |
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| 20:19.37 | nvz | if it works right I may have to package it :P |
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| 20:19.48 | xophEr | Hi! When I boot I get 'failed to mount local filesystems' What could be wrong? This is my kernel configuration: http://pastebin.ca/22674 |
| 20:19.50 | beardy | victor__: You probably don't need to write anything in that field. |
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| 20:20.16 | victor__ | beardy: okay.. |
| 20:20.23 | beardy | xophEr: Support for the filesystems not included in your kernel? |
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| 20:20.34 | victor__ | Should i use the kernel frambuffer? |
| 20:20.38 | madradrone | how do i tell if i have just on HT cpu or 2 non-HT cpus? |
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| 20:20.42 | victor__ | *framebuffer |
| 20:20.44 | madradrone | s/on/one |
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| 20:21.07 | beardy | madradrone: Open the box? |
| 20:21.14 | cadu | madradrone: what if you have 2 HTs ? |
| 20:21.14 | madradrone | beardy: short of that |
| 20:21.19 | cadu | you would have 4 |
| 20:21.24 | Zedman | hello. I have edited /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, but at every startup the hostname is changed to "noname". what should I do? |
| 20:21.27 | juxi | hallo |
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| 20:21.33 | beardy | madradrone: /cat/proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 20:21.34 | madradrone | cadu: yes, or 2 HT |
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| 20:21.43 | madradrone | beardy: no |
| 20:21.45 | beardy | damn, well, you can figure that out.. |
| 20:21.48 | viper | hmm samba just don`t seem to work .. clients just can`t enter .. |
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| 20:22.24 | xophEr | beardy, could you check the configuration and see if it is or not? Cause with my other kernel, which has the same filesystem-settings, it works.. |
| 20:22.52 | beardy | xophEr: No I wont. If you want to compile your own kernel, nice, but you have to get it right yourself. |
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| 20:23.29 | beardy | xophEr: How can I know what filesystems you need? |
| 20:23.43 | xophEr | Thanks anyway. |
| 20:23.45 | devonst17 | Ok, I think i got the drivers installed, one more little question... whats the command for activating OpenGL? (I remember someone did it on my little 366 iBook once and I got 3000+ frames on GLXGears) |
| 20:24.15 | devonst17 | when I try to use opengl on VLC it is unbearably slow |
| 20:24.25 | ricky_clarkson | Sounds like Mesa. |
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| 20:24.35 | madradrone | cadu: well i know its not 2 HT because i'm running an SMP kernel and it reports 2 cpus. but i don't know if its dual Xeons or else one HT Xeon in it |
| 20:25.12 | cadu | madradrone: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 20:25.21 | nvz | damn headers in the wrong place and ln giving me shit.. heh |
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| 20:25.26 | omry | sweet, I updraded to xorg, and my ati drivers ceased to work. |
| 20:25.44 | devonst17 | w00t |
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| 20:25.47 | madradrone | cadu: what is that supposed to say about HT? it only shows 2 cpus. AFICT the listing is the same if 2 real cpus or one HT cpu |
| 20:25.48 | cadu | madradrone: if you get HT on the 2 proessors, it's ONE ht processor |
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| 20:25.58 | cadu | madradrone: on processor name |
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| 20:26.07 | cadu | madradrone: msg me with cpuinfo ou tput |
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| 20:26.16 | cadu | ( typing sucks ) |
| 20:26.22 | cadu | fscked up keyboard spacebar |
| 20:26.22 | madradrone | cadu: hmm, on this system i have a mobile P4 HT cpu and cpuinfo does not say anything about HT in the name (or anywhere else) |
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| 20:27.04 | madradrone | if i was at the box, i'd just look at the model number and go find the specs online |
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| 20:27.18 | victor__ | okay so now i configured the xorg server.. now what do i do? |
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| 20:27.44 | nvz | it must be a FHS thing or something that includes are now all in /usr/include/ its really being a PIMA right now.. cause its not an easy fix in the makefiles because the old way is like backwards compared to this.. so easiest thing is to keep geting errors and placing links |
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| 20:28.27 | victor__ | azeem: Hmm i configured the xserver-xorg just as you tld me too now.. |
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| 20:28.39 | tcsetattr | /usr/include is where headers have been forever... |
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| 20:28.55 | victor__ | azeem: So what do i do next? (sorry for beeing such a newbie ;) |
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| 20:29.52 | nkuttler | victor__: did you already install your window manager? |
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| 20:30.25 | victor__ | nkuttler: well i downloaded "x-window-system" packade, i think it was called that.. |
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| 20:30.47 | nkuttler | victor__: do you want to run gnome, kde, something else? |
| 20:30.47 | UnKnowN_ | how do you let someone remote shell you |
| 20:30.50 | victor__ | nkuttler: and i set up the xorg server.. but i havn't started it.. |
| 20:30.58 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: start sshd? |
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| 20:31.27 | j4cbo | anyone know where to find the nvidia-kernel 1.0-7676 packag for kernel 2.6? |
| 20:31.31 | victor__ | nkuttler: well i read in a forum, wich also recomended debian for me btw, that Gnome and KDE is like huge and takes lots of perfomance off, also they are very big to download.. |
| 20:31.32 | nkuttler | victor__: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 20:31.45 | huftzubre | I have a problem. I have upgraded to Debian 3.1, and now DSL is not working anymore. :o( |
| 20:31.47 | nkuttler | victor__: apt-get install fluxbox |
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| 20:31.50 | anurag | is it apt-get install gnome |
| 20:31.51 | nkuttler | victor__: apt-get install xdm |
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| 20:31.56 | madradrone | cadu did you see that? |
| 20:32.06 | nkuttler | anurag: /msg dpkg install gnome |
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| 20:32.07 | mhall | huftzubre: PPPoE |
| 20:32.10 | mhall | huftzubre: ? |
| 20:32.16 | victor__ | nkuttler: fluxbox sounds cool.. it has the coolest name so i'll get that one :D |
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| 20:32.29 | huftzubre | mhall: I have rerun pppoeconf already, but it does not help |
| 20:32.30 | UnKnowN_ | how does sshd work? |
| 20:32.37 | madradrone | !tell j4cbo about nvidia one-liner |
| 20:32.41 | bandito | howdy all, i know this is more of an #exim question but that channel seems pretty much dead... does anyone use exim4 + postgresql? i'm getting '550 relay not permitted' to my virtual domains, and my local_domains line is: domainlist local_domains = ${lookup pgsql{select distinct name from domains}} |
| 20:32.50 | dannythm | hi there |
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| 20:33.01 | dannythm | can anyone help me? my apt-get is broken |
| 20:33.05 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: try /usr/share/doc/ssh/ for a start |
| 20:33.07 | huftzubre | I can ping myself and the ppp peer, but nothing else |
| 20:33.08 | Zugschlus | bandito: don't repeat |
| 20:33.16 | pirre | dannythm: elaborate |
| 20:33.22 | bandito | Zugschlus, lots of coming and going since the last one |
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| 20:33.25 | j4cbo | madradrone: that's a hell of a one-liner |
| 20:33.27 | madradrone | bandito: try the mailing list also |
| 20:33.27 | xophEr | What could be wrong when I get the message 'failed to mount local filesystems' at boot, and I cant mount them later either, tells me their busy.. |
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| 20:33.34 | victor__ | Wow.. heh linux has so many choises.. |
| 20:33.44 | maxxle | Hi! I have a 320GB external USB-HDD. (It's /dev/sda). I have created a 200GB(start - reiserFS) partition, one with 100GB(middle - reiserFS) and one with 20GB(end - fat32). But now I can't format /dev/sda2 (100GB- middle) |
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| 20:33.54 | victor__ | i'm kind of use to windows wich i've used all my life since i was 6 years old.. |
| 20:33.54 | bandito | madradrone, waitin for it |
| 20:33.59 | dannythm | pierre: when I do apt-get it tells me that some packages have some dependencies broken |
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| 20:34.09 | cheal | j4cbo: nowhere, most likely |
| 20:34.22 | mhall | huftzubre: What goes wrong? |
| 20:34.29 | nkuttler | victor__: you may want to try xfce |
| 20:34.30 | mhall | huftzubre: Can you get some log error messages? |
| 20:34.37 | anurag | victor__: linux gui wont leave you bored |
| 20:34.47 | maxxle | When trying to format /dev/sda2 I get this one: Failed to open '/dev/sda2': No such device or address. |
| 20:34.53 | pirre | dannythm: what package are you trying to install? What release of debian are you using? |
| 20:34.58 | huftzubre | From ppp-connect-errors: |
| 20:35.02 | mhall | maxxle: OK. |
| 20:35.12 | ricky_clarkson | devonst17: Please don't /msg me without asking. And if you've no reason, the answer is no. |
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| 20:35.24 | dannythm | pirre: sarge stable and I'm trying to download k3b |
| 20:35.28 | mhall | maxxle: run fdisk /dev/sda2 and run the p command |
| 20:35.33 | huftzubre | pppoe: read (asyncReadFromPPP): Session 3849: Input/output error |
| 20:35.40 | mhall | maxxle: make sure it looks right |
| 20:35.50 | victor__ | nkuttler: i'm downloading fluxbox and packages suggested by it atm.. but i can always remove and try something else, without my system getting slower and slower over time, like in windows right? |
| 20:35.58 | huftzubre | PADS: System-Error: No resources |
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| 20:36.09 | pirre | dannythm: and you've done "apt-get update" ? |
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| 20:36.15 | nkuttler | victor__: heh, yes |
| 20:36.18 | mhall | huftzubre: hmm that is odd huh |
| 20:36.18 | huftzubre | pppoe: Timeout waiting for PADO packets |
| 20:36.19 | ricky_clarkson | victor__: The occasional apt-get autoclean will help. |
| 20:36.22 | anurag | victor__: your system wont get slow, if you just install packlages |
| 20:36.23 | z0unds | how do i upload a whole folder from the terminal to a ftp server |
| 20:36.23 | maxxle | hall: Everything looks good - already checkd |
| 20:36.23 | UnKnowN_ | whats it mean when sshd says no hostkey avaliable |
| 20:36.28 | mhall | huftzubre: i'm guessing you googled? |
| 20:36.37 | nkuttler | victor__: do echo exec fluxbox > ~/.xsession |
| 20:36.37 | ricky_clarkson | z0unds: mput (in good ftp clients). |
| 20:36.41 | mhall | maxxle: ok i have an idea |
| 20:36.46 | devonst17 | ricky_clarkson: You were the only person who seemed to know what i was talking about, sorry if I violated some rule of #debian. your obviously an op, i will leave you alone, oh high king. |
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| 20:36.47 | victor__ | ricky_clarkson: You mean like the "clear pachet cache"? |
| 20:36.53 | z0unds | ricky_clarkson, i just use "ftp" |
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| 20:36.59 | huftzubre | I didn't find anything specific. |
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| 20:37.01 | mhall | maxxle: try something like dd bs=1M count=1 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda2 |
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| 20:37.09 | mhall | maxxle: see if _anything_ can write on it |
| 20:37.11 | ricky_clarkson | decordable: I'm not an op, I don't know what you want, but I'm sure it can safely be discussed in the channel. |
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| 20:37.17 | tcsetattr | maxxle, did you get any "you must reboot to reread thet partition table" warnings when creating the partitions? |
| 20:37.20 | victor__ | nkuttler: But i'll have to start my xserver first right? |
| 20:37.27 | huftzubre | Maybe these errors are old and don't have anything to do with the recent problem |
| 20:37.28 | nkuttler | victor__: no |
| 20:37.29 | UnKnowN_ | sshd wont start right |
| 20:37.33 | ricky_clarkson | victor__: Right. |
| 20:37.36 | UnKnowN_ | keeps saying there are no hostkeys |
| 20:37.44 | ricky_clarkson | z0unds: Try mput. |
| 20:37.54 | maxxle | mhall: dd: opening `/dev/sda2': No such device or address |
| 20:37.55 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: hm, they should be created during install |
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| 20:38.02 | UnKnowN_ | reinstall? |
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| 20:38.07 | maxxle | tcsetattr: no message like you mentioned |
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| 20:38.12 | ricky_clarkson | !qotd0 |
| 20:38.12 | dpkg | i heard qotd73 is <wokker> initech, i thought greycat disliked him as well, but then i read that he wanted to lick him ... i was most confused |
| 20:38.25 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: what is the error? |
| 20:38.28 | mhall | UnKnowN_: apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server |
| 20:38.34 | Flawless | why is it that udev never picks up the right permissions when I boot my computer? Whenever I do "/etc/init.d/udev restart", all the nodes have correct permissions, but that's tiresome to do on every boot (yes, I know I can script it, but I want to fix the real problem) |
| 20:38.38 | tcsetattr | maxxle, cat /proc/partitions and see if it's listed there |
| 20:38.48 | mhall | maxxle: also try dmesg | grep hd |
| 20:39.05 | maxxle | tcsetattr: no - not listed there |
| 20:39.07 | UnKnowN_ | thx |
| 20:39.08 | z0unds | ricky_clarkson, i did: mput HP/ (got error: HP/ not a plain file.) |
| 20:39.10 | mhall | Flawless: I had so many problems with udev I purged the package, rebooted, and never looked back. |
| 20:39.12 | UnKnowN_ | Worked |
| 20:39.16 | tcsetattr | maxxle, is sda listed there at all? |
| 20:39.18 | mhall | maxxle: That's pretty damn bizarre. |
| 20:39.21 | Flawless | mhall: well... yes ;) |
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| 20:39.32 | victor__ | nkuttler: okay i did that echo exec fluxbox.. thingy.. |
| 20:39.37 | maxxle | tcsetattr: Yes - it is. I can Mount the 200GB at the beginning. |
| 20:39.45 | Flawless | mhall: Thanks for the idea, but I really need to make it work. I've had absolutely no other problems |
| 20:39.49 | ricky_clarkson | z0unds: mput HP/* |
| 20:39.54 | huftzubre | How does the routing have to look like on a working system? |
| 20:40.07 | mhall | Flawless: I know it's not so helpful, it's more of me trying to warn you. :-( |
| 20:40.10 | ricky_clarkson | z0unds: If you use GNOME, nautilus supports FTP pretty well. |
| 20:40.11 | tcsetattr | maxxle, what tool did you use to create the sda2 partition? and was sda1 mounted while you were creating the other partitions? |
| 20:40.14 | Flawless | mhall: I know :( |
| 20:40.17 | mhall | Flawless: What feature do you need? |
| 20:40.26 | maxxle | tcsetattr: cfdisk / it was mounted |
| 20:40.34 | Flawless | mhall: Ok, I expressed myself incorrectly ;) |
| 20:40.40 | dannythm | pirre: not enough info? |
| 20:40.44 | Flawless | mhall: But I really like to be able to see what devices the kernel knows about |
| 20:40.53 | victor__ | nkuttler: What should i do next? |
| 20:40.59 | mhall | Flawless: right, I think /proc might be a better way |
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| 20:41.03 | Flawless | mhall: and it used to auto-connect my pda... or wait, maybe that's hotplug |
| 20:41.06 | nkuttler | victor__: did you install xdm? |
| 20:41.16 | UnKnowN_ | Now how do I start sshd? |
| 20:41.16 | victor__ | nkuttler: let me check.. |
| 20:41.17 | mhall | Flawless: Yeah hotplug works with or without. |
| 20:41.19 | yoo | somebody can help me with a problem with a network card ra0 |
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| 20:41.26 | tcsetattr | maxxle, the kernel won't recognize partitions created on a disk that already has a partition mounted. fdisk would tell you that you need to reboot. maybe cfdisk just doesn't tell you |
| 20:41.27 | mhall | Flawless: One sec. I've a link... |
| 20:41.30 | UnKnowN_ | says it requires execution with an absolute path |
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| 20:41.40 | Flawless | mhall: If I can fix it, I want to. I think it's moving backwards if I start removing it. I went to udev from devfs, and never looked back :) |
| 20:41.45 | pirre | dannythm: what package dependency does it claim is broken? |
| 20:41.47 | z0unds | ricky_clarkson, thx nautilus worked great :D |
| 20:41.49 | yoo | SET failed on device ra0 ; Function not implemented. |
| 20:41.55 | maxxle | tcsetattr: I will try it once again - unmounted all partitions |
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| 20:42.27 | dannythm | Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas: |
| 20:42.27 | dannythm | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.28 | dannythm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:42.32 | victor__ | nkuttler: Yes, according to aptitude it's installed. |
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| 20:42.48 | nkuttler | victor__: /etc/init.d/xdm start |
| 20:42.55 | pirre | dannythm: use pastebin.com |
| 20:42.58 | omry | is it safe to convert ati rpm drivers to deb using alien? |
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| 20:43.02 | tcsetattr | maxxle, if you unmount them all and then write the partition table again, that might work |
| 20:43.10 | f0cusrite | hi all, anyone familiar with bluetooth pairing with bluez-utils? |
| 20:43.19 | maxxle | tcsetattr: stand by - i will have a try |
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| 20:43.50 | tcsetattr | maxxle, if you've rebooted since then and still have problems then my theory is wrong and you'll have to wait for another suggestion... |
| 20:44.01 | mhall | Flawless: I dunno. I'm not sure udev is a move forward from anything. |
| 20:44.03 | UnKnowN_ | sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path |
| 20:44.03 | rory123 | heh |
| 20:44.05 | UnKnowN_ | whats this mean |
| 20:44.07 | mhall | !tell me about udev |
| 20:44.08 | rory123 | at least he's honest |
| 20:44.11 | MizLinux | What Debian package(s) will execute .cgi files? |
| 20:44.23 | mhall | !tell Flawless about udev |
| 20:44.25 | Flawless | MizLinux: depends on the cgi files :) |
| 20:44.36 | Flawless | heheh ;) |
| 20:44.38 | victor__ | nkuttler: Omg! it works! it works! I love you! and i love pipeline and azeem too! For 2 entire days i've been trying and trying and trying to get a GUI going! Thanks so much!!! |
| 20:44.41 | tcsetattr | nkuttler, apt-cache search httpd-cgi |
| 20:44.47 | dannythm | pirre: just posted |
| 20:44.50 | MizLinux | Flawless what does it depend on ;) |
| 20:44.53 | Flawless | oh, you didn't see that, but the answer from dpkg is pretty funny :) |
| 20:44.56 | nkuttler | victor__: send me money :) |
| 20:44.58 | nkuttler | tcsetattr: ? |
| 20:45.12 | tcsetattr | oops, mizlinux... apt-cache seacrh httpd-cgi... wrong person |
| 20:45.12 | mhall | Flawless: "This article discusses udev, a program that replaces the functionality of devfs. It provides /dev entries for devices in the system at any moment in time. It also provides features previously unavailable through devfs alone, such as persistent naming for devices when they move around the device tree, a flexible device naming scheme, notification of external systems of device changes and moving all naming policy out of the kernel." |
| 20:45.17 | pirre | dannythm: you did "apt-get update", right? |
| 20:45.21 | mhall | Flawless: I sent it to myself also. ;-) |
| 20:45.25 | omry | anyone ran into problems with ATI drivers after upgrading to xorg? |
| 20:45.31 | mhall | Flawless: 13:44 < mhall> !tell me about udev |
| 20:45.36 | dannythm | pirre: yes |
| 20:45.39 | maxxle | tcsetattr: It works - I had to unmount the first 200GB partiton. I can format /dev/sda2 now. |
| 20:45.44 | mhall | omry: I heard it was supposed to work but I didn't try it. |
| 20:46.00 | pirre | dannythm: could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.com, too? |
| 20:46.07 | omry | mhall, it didn't work, at least not for me. |
| 20:46.08 | dannythm | sure |
| 20:46.11 | maxxle | tcsetattr: What package do I need to create a fat32 partition? Is there something like mkreiserfs for fat32 in a special .deb? |
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| 20:46.19 | victor__ | nkuttler: hah.. maybe so :P but i think that just my the knowledge of that you maybe has enlightend annother person of how good linux is should be enough ^^ |
| 20:46.30 | tcsetattr | maxxle, mkdosfs might be able to do it. But I don't use that stuff... |
| 20:46.43 | maxxle | tcsetattr: thx. I will have a look at it |
| 20:46.59 | huftzubre | OK, thanks anyway |
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| 20:47.27 | dannythm | pirre: posted |
| 20:47.29 | tcsetattr | maxxle, the package is dosfstools, and it contains /sbin/mkfs.vfat, so I guess that's the one you want |
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| 20:48.27 | maxxle | tcsetattr: Yes! That looks good. Just need the partition for exchanging data with windows-boxes. |
| 20:48.32 | pirre | dannythm: hm, seems okay |
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| 20:49.10 | dannythm | pirre: I know, but still when I do apt-get install k3b it tells me the error |
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| 20:50.29 | pirre | dannythm: try adding "contrib non-free" after "stable" on the first, uncommented line |
| 20:50.34 | mhall | omry: I'm looking for some information for you. |
| 20:50.42 | UnKnowN_ | sshd isn't working still |
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| 20:51.07 | m4csim | When I try to start my vserver (thor) I've got this message : WARNING: can not find configuration, assuming legacy method |
| 20:51.08 | m4csim | No directory for this vserver: /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/thor |
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| 20:51.27 | omry | mhall, thanks. I am having problems on my other machine which runs nvidia, x keep freezing. thats why I left earlier. (but I`ll attack one problem at a time) |
| 20:52.19 | mhall | omry: I don't know if you have com across this site, http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 20:52.21 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 20:52.27 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: like you start all services |
| 20:52.38 | mhall | omry: But he seems to detail a build procedure that will get you the correct ATI driver for xorg |
| 20:52.44 | dannythm | pirre: shall I delete the "main"? |
| 20:52.45 | UnKnowN_ | I also need help with unreal ircd |
| 20:53.11 | g00se_ | Sarge+Gnome. Need to make a launcher so non-root can reboot or halt. Made one with command ::: gnome-terminal -e su -c "sudo halt" gabi ::: This was meant to start a terminal and *wait* for the password - it doesn't |
| 20:53.13 | fazla_ | UnKnowN_ irc.unrealircd.com #unreal-support |
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| 20:53.21 | omry | mhall, I did. thats how I installed it in the first place. (in xfree). |
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| 20:53.30 | mhall | Flawless: So the support is not real? |
| 20:53.33 | omry | mhall, I`ll try to follow it again. |
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| 20:53.37 | mhall | omry: ATI says xorg is supported. |
| 20:53.41 | mhall | omry: Let me see. |
| 20:53.42 | Flawless | mhall: sorry, what? |
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| 20:54.43 | ke6isf | Hooray for power outages and no UPS. |
| 20:54.45 | pirre | dannythm: no |
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| 20:54.50 | Sayid | Hi, is there anyone who knows wich i should test to load in xfree conf to fix so X will start at my laptop, its an pretty old one...733Mhz...Vesa didt work :) |
| 20:55.03 | dannythm | pirre: when I do that I do apt-get update, then apt-get install k3b and it tells me that it can't find the package |
| 20:55.10 | ke6isf | !tell Sayid -about laptop |
| 20:55.12 | pirre | dannythm: hmm |
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| 20:56.08 | fazla_ | Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server |
| 20:56.08 | fazla_ | No core pointer |
| 20:56.15 | fazla_ | can you help me please.. i can't open X |
| 20:56.37 | ke6isf | fazla_: What are the symptoms? |
| 20:57.04 | mhall | fazla_: Edit the X config file and fix the mouse lines. |
| 20:57.06 | pirre | dannythm: I don't have a solution for you, unfortunately |
| 20:57.17 | mhall | fazla_: If it can't detect your mouse right it won't start. |
| 20:57.23 | fazla_ | mhall i tried but how can i select right configuration for my mouse |
| 20:57.28 | omry | mhall, yes. but they have an rpm driver. |
| 20:57.31 | victor__ | nkuttler: okay so the next time i start my computer, all i have to do is to press ctrl+alt+f7 and i will get this grapichal interface? |
| 20:57.32 | cheal | Sayid: you must mean which driver |
| 20:57.42 | Sayid | cheal: yes :) |
| 20:57.47 | dannythm | pirre: :_( Now I added the main again, and the same error happens >< |
| 20:57.49 | fazla_ | ke6isf what's symptoms :s |
| 20:57.56 | mhall | omry: That procedure will make a debian-installable version of ATI's xorg rpm. |
| 20:58.01 | ke6isf | fazla_: What is causing it to not start? |
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| 20:58.05 | cheal | Sayid: your laptop's CPU won't help much, but your graphics adapter would help you determine which video driver to choose |
| 20:58.05 | omry | mhall, I tried to convert it to deb using alien, but when I tried to installed to bitched about some library.. |
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| 20:58.07 | mhall | omry: You can also alien the rpm |
| 20:58.07 | Sayid | cheal: i have search evrywhere but dont know wuch driver i should test to add in conf |
| 20:58.13 | mhall | omry: which library? |
| 20:58.15 | ke6isf | fazla_: More importantly, what do you see that indicates there is a problem? |
| 20:58.17 | fazla_ | i changed my mouse and it don't start now |
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| 20:58.18 | darky | How come I have a compilation problem, when compiling a module, with the file /usr/src/linux/include/asm/processor.h:75: error array type has incomplet ... |
| 20:58.23 | omry | mhall, let me try again. |
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| 20:58.40 | dannythm | pirre: :_( Now I added the main again, and the same error happens >< |
| 20:58.45 | ke6isf | fazla_: Why did you change your mouse to begin with? |
| 20:58.47 | pirre | dannythm: :/ |
| 20:58.47 | omry | mhall, trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package xlibmesa-gl |
| 20:59.01 | dannythm | and |
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| 20:59.09 | cheal | Sayid: when you say "add in conf", I suppose you just mean which driver to *choose*, right? |
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| 20:59.13 | omry | mhall, since xlibmesa-gl is something by xorg, I don't want to conflict with it. |
| 20:59.16 | fazla_ | ke6isf i bought new mouse and i'm using it now :s |
| 20:59.20 | pirre | darky: iirc that's a gcc-4.0 problem, try setting your CC environment variable to gcc-3.4 istead |
| 20:59.20 | mhall | omry: actually you do |
| 20:59.21 | ke6isf | !tell fazla_ -about drxx |
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| 20:59.24 | pirre | s/istead/instead/ |
| 20:59.25 | Sayid | cheal: yepp, know it says "vesa" |
| 20:59.26 | omry | mhall, I do? |
| 20:59.27 | dannythm | pirre: when I do apt-get -f install it tells me the thing that I'm going to post in the web you give me |
| 20:59.33 | ke6isf | fazla_: what version of Debian are you using, btw? |
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| 20:59.34 | mhall | omry: the proprietary ati drivers use a proprietary GL library |
| 20:59.35 | pirre | dannythm: okay |
| 20:59.40 | fazla_ | ke6isf unstable.. |
| 20:59.43 | john | fazla_: what kind of mouse? and what did you have your old mouse config'd as? |
| 20:59.52 | darky | pirre, how do I do that ? |
| 20:59.53 | nkuttler | viper: no need to do that, it will start automagically |
| 20:59.55 | ke6isf | fazla_: I'm off. Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know unstable. |
| 20:59.55 | mhall | omry: so you overwrite it with the ATI one so that apps using gl will get the ATI-specific GL functions |
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| 21:00.06 | darky | pirre, uninstall gcc-4.02 ? |
| 21:00.08 | mhall | omry: just install with dpkg --force-overwrite |
| 21:00.23 | mhall | omry: worst that could happen is you have to reinstall mesa, but that hurts nothing |
| 21:00.33 | fazla_ | mhall how can i select right mouse configuration ? |
| 21:00.40 | ke6isf | fazla_: That said, if you're using unstable, there's the stipulation that you already know how to fix minor problems such as this. |
| 21:00.47 | cheal | Sayid: vesa usually works all the time, but knowing your graphics card would help recommend something else to try |
| 21:00.49 | pirre | darky: no, just use gcc-3.3 or such for that particular compilation |
| 21:00.51 | omry | mhall, hmm, I`ll move that lib aside first, see that it doesn't try to overwrite other stuff. |
| 21:00.53 | john | fazla_: what type of mouse do you have? |
| 21:00.56 | Zedman | hello. when I set my hostname to my favorit after rebooting the machine's hostname is reset to "noname". What should I do? |
| 21:01.02 | fazla_ | ke6isf some.. |
| 21:01.11 | Hungarus | can anyone point me to a good hotplug howto/faq/docs? |
| 21:01.16 | mhall | fazla_: try /dev/input/mice protocol ImPS/2 |
| 21:01.18 | fazla_ | john a4tech mouse ( only two buttons ) |
| 21:01.25 | pirre | dannythm: unfortunately I don't speak spanish... |
| 21:01.26 | ke6isf | !tell Hungarus -about hotplug |
| 21:01.33 | Sayid | cheal: ok, can i write to you private? got so small window now so i can't allmost read |
| 21:01.35 | mhall | omry: probably it will only try to overwrite GL files |
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| 21:01.37 | fazla_ | mhall i'm trying that now but it don't start |
| 21:01.40 | Hungarus | ke6isf: nope... |
| 21:01.43 | mhall | omry: the nvidia driver does the same thing |
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| 21:01.50 | ke6isf | Hungarus: Best guess I can think of. Sorry. |
| 21:01.54 | mhall | fazla_: /dev/psaux then |
| 21:02.06 | pirre | dannythm: ...but it seems that it's a different problem |
| 21:02.09 | mhall | fazla_: also the X config files often have two pointers configured |
| 21:02.13 | fazla_ | mhall i tried that too but it don't start also it don't come back to console |
| 21:02.21 | mhall | fazla_: so i usually remove those and write a new separate section |
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| 21:02.25 | mhall | fazla_: try Ctrl-Alt-BkSp |
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| 21:02.34 | fazla_ | hm a sec please.. |
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| 21:02.39 | cheal | Sayid: if it's really a communication problem, OK |
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| 21:02.46 | omry | okay.. since dpkg cries that its overwriting even if the file is not there, I`ll just try. |
| 21:02.46 | omry | :) |
| 21:02.50 | dannythm | pirre: i can transalte more or less |
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| 21:03.07 | mhall | omry: yeah that's cause it stores this data in a database based on the packages installed |
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| 21:05.44 | pirre | dannythm: sorry, I'm about to go to bed |
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| 21:06.14 | pinky | oy, a lot of people here ..... so i say just a "hello @all" ;) |
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| 21:06.36 | omry | mhall, it worked. |
| 21:06.41 | mhall | omry: sweet |
| 21:06.47 | mhall | omry: did X load and stuff |
| 21:06.49 | pinky | What is the topic? |
| 21:06.57 | mhall | omry: you might have to tweak the xorg conf |
| 21:06.58 | omry | mhall, hmm, freevo loaded. let me check x. |
| 21:06.59 | pinky | .... i just play a little bit with IRC ;) |
| 21:07.03 | nkuttler | pinky: type "/topic" |
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| 21:07.30 | filipz | hey, ive got a directory full of synblinks. how do i pass this whole dir, to another pc? lftp mirror will pas the links as files.. |
| 21:07.52 | mhall | filipz: tar it up |
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| 21:08.22 | filipz | mhall, its like 2G.. dont have the space with it. :-( |
| 21:08.30 | mhall | filipz: it defaults to putting the symlinks in the tar file unless you specify not to do it |
| 21:08.32 | dannythm | pirre: translation done |
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| 21:08.35 | dannythm | just posted |
| 21:08.43 | mhall | filipz: hmm, pipe the tar through the network with nc |
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| 21:08.54 | filipz | hm... |
| 21:08.57 | mhall | filipz: then grab it on the remote side with a listening nc and untar |
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| 21:09.12 | priest | filipz:: cp -d |
| 21:09.14 | mhall | filipz: netcat package is what you need |
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| 21:09.33 | mhall | filipz: here's how |
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| 21:10.05 | Robot101 | recieving host: nc -l -p 1234 -q 0 | tar -xvz |
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| 21:10.14 | mhall | filipz: on the remote box try nc -l -p 1024 -c tar xvf - |
| 21:10.14 | f0cusrite | anyone familiar with bluez-pin/bluepin ? |
| 21:10.29 | Robot101 | sending host: tar -cvz directory | nc -q 0 remotebox 1234 |
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| 21:10.40 | mhall | filipz: on the sender try tar cvf - <stuff> | nc 192.168.0.? 1024 |
| 21:10.48 | mhall | Robot101: I love that trick. |
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| 21:11.01 | Robot101 | fastest file transfer under the sun :) |
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| 21:11.08 | mhall | Robot101: If you have a good network you can do UDP mode. It's _real_ fast then. |
| 21:11.11 | fwtest | is there any tools which can extract audio from vcd dat file to mp3? |
| 21:11.13 | filipz | wow.. |
| 21:11.24 | omry | mhall, it started, yes. |
| 21:11.26 | mhall | Robot101: Usually works since network has physical checksumming. |
| 21:11.34 | omry | mhall, anything too check in xorg.conf? |
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| 21:11.51 | fazla_ | x started but mouse selection is some bad :P |
| 21:11.54 | mhall | omry: ah sweet, try glxinfo | fgrep -i rendering |
| 21:11.54 | nkuttler | filipz: tar cf - /dir | ssh -luser server "cd /dir && tar xvf -" even |
| 21:12.00 | mhall | fazla_: ok getting closer |
| 21:12.07 | mhall | fazla_: try some other mouse protocols |
| 21:12.12 | mhall | fazla_: what kind of mouse |
| 21:12.14 | g00se_ | Sarge+Gnome. How do i ensure that Firefox opens .doc files with OpenOffice? |
| 21:12.34 | mhall | nkuttler: yecch ssh is slow |
| 21:12.47 | dannythm | can any one help me with my problem with apt-get? i will psot the errors on pastebin.com |
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| 21:13.07 | mhall | dannythm: just post the damn thing and provide the link already |
| 21:13.08 | omry | mhall, got sevral Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":3.0"., and one Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual |
| 21:13.11 | mhall | !tell dannythm about ask |
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| 21:13.21 | filipz | cool. |
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| 21:13.30 | fazla_ | mhall a4tech two buttons mouse, no scroll |
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| 21:13.46 | pinky | g00se_: search a .doc-file at the internet, klick on it, firefox will ask you what it has to do with it, then klick on "opne with" and search for the openoffice .... this should be work, i think |
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| 21:13.58 | delisin | türk |
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| 21:14.11 | delisin | deneme için |
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| 21:14.24 | mhall | omry: probably gotta play with the config file for a while |
| 21:14.27 | Xybernaut | delisin, :) |
| 21:14.31 | Xybernaut | delisin, #debian.tr |
| 21:14.34 | mhall | fazla_: hmm probably need to google and find out the mouse protocol |
| 21:14.35 | dannythm | mhall:http://pastebin.com/360958 |
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| 21:14.44 | g00se_ | pinky: did try that, but no go. Mind you, i think X is misconfigured ;-) |
| 21:14.44 | pinky | delisin: It looks like you have problems with some letters .... |
| 21:14.46 | mhall | dannythm: ok i'll look |
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| 21:14.50 | delisin | hocam oldu mu?? |
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| 21:15.06 | Xybernaut | delisin, Evet /join #debian.tr |
| 21:15.21 | dannythm | I'm running Sarge stable and when i try to do apt-get install k3b i get an error that tells me it can't continue 'cause some broken dependences |
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| 21:15.57 | mhall | dannythm: Yeah no big deal. What you'll need to do is remove the xlibmesa-gl package. |
| 21:16.09 | dannythm | mhall: how? |
| 21:16.11 | mhall | dannythm: It provides the GL libraries, but you have to use the ATI specific versions. |
| 21:16.15 | delisin | debian tr war |
| 21:16.19 | pinky | g00se_: You got my message? I still play a little bit with IRC, so - does it works? |
| 21:16.25 | dannythm | mhall: now I'm using xorg |
| 21:16.26 | mhall | dannythm: apt-get remove --purge xlibmesa-gl should work |
| 21:16.38 | mhall | dannythm: Right. |
| 21:16.48 | g00se_ | pinky: yes i did thanks |
| 21:17.04 | mhall | dannythm: That's the default GL libraries, but in order to get acceleration on ATI / NV cards you have to install the special ATI / NV versions instead. |
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| 21:17.35 | mhall | dannythm: It's rather like how on Windows, in order to use DirectX, you have to have some code from the graphics company that makes all the functions in the DirectX DLLs work. |
| 21:17.38 | omry | mhall, what am I looking for in it the xorg.conf? |
| 21:17.39 | dannythm | mhall: i don't want aceleration from now |
| 21:17.39 | pinky | g00se_: I sent you a privat message by /msg, had you received that? |
| 21:17.59 | mhall | omry: Yeah, I can't help you with that since it's ATI-specific, but... one sec. |
| 21:18.12 | dannythm | mhall: I tryed the sentence but it give me another error |
| 21:18.12 | amphi | mhall: on mine, the xorg packages work fine |
| 21:18.30 | darky | I can t get my logitech quickcam work, althought I downloaded installed and loaded the modules for quickcam, it does still tell me no such device for /dev/video0 .... |
| 21:18.33 | omry | amphi, with ATI? |
| 21:18.34 | mhall | omry: Read section 5 http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 21:18.38 | g00se_ | pinky: Got your private one thanks |
| 21:18.43 | mhall | amphi: But only in 2D mode I think. |
| 21:18.44 | amphi | omry: mobility radeon 7500 |
| 21:19.00 | mhall | amphi: Or if you have an older ATI card. |
| 21:19.09 | amphi | mhall: no, 3d - glxgears went from 70fps to 660-odd |
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| 21:19.09 | mhall | amphi: But for the new ones they did not publish specs. |
| 21:19.18 | mhall | amphi: ! that's confusing |
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| 21:20.06 | amphi | mhall: Radeon 9200PRO/9200/9200SE, M9+ seems the most recent card with xorg 3d support (sarge backport) |
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| 21:20.36 | dannythm | mhall: I will post the error on pastebin again |
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| 21:20.50 | cr3 | anyone happen to know which process calls anacron? I'm only seeing one entry in /etc/cron.d but only being called at 7h30. I'm also seeing one entry in /etc/init.d but there's no anacron daemon process running. |
| 21:20.57 | amphi | mhall: it needed the kernel modules intel_agp and radeon as well |
| 21:20.59 | darky | I can t get my logitech quickcam work, althought I downloaded installed and loaded the modules for quickcam, it does still tell me no such device for /dev/video0 .... How could I get it work ? |
| 21:21.12 | dannythm | mhall: http://pastebin.com/360971 |
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| 21:24.08 | pinky | ... i mean a digital sat tv card ;) |
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| 21:24.40 | UnKnowN_ | how do you send global messeges to users connected to your computer |
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| 21:25.06 | priest | To my computer? |
| 21:25.12 | UnKnowN_ | no mine |
| 21:25.13 | petemc | wall |
| 21:25.18 | UnKnowN_ | I got several connected |
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| 21:26.09 | ferrox | anyone running debian as host for production vmware gsx/esx setup? |
| 21:26.35 | pinky | have 2 go, it's late here ... wish you all a nice night - good night ;) |
| 21:26.58 | UnKnowN_ | How do I msg people |
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| 21:27.24 | petemc | write |
| 21:27.24 | pinky | use /msg |
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| 21:27.54 | pinky | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.13 | UnKnowN_ | no |
| 21:28.15 | UnKnowN_ | inside debian |
| 21:28.28 | UnKnowN_ | INSIDE DEBIAN! |
| 21:28.30 | Beers | im not sure if this is common knowledge, but is there a package to upgrade stable's kernel from 2.4 to 2.6 ? |
| 21:29.07 | Wyzard | Beers: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 21:29.21 | Wyzard | Beers: Replace "686" with "k7" if you have an AMD processor |
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| 21:29.36 | UnKnowN_ | So can anyone answer how to send messeges to other users connected to my computer |
| 21:29.38 | Wyzard | Beers: And if you have an old processor (Pentim-classic or earlier), use "386" |
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| 21:29.46 | Beers | ok, is there a kernel for the k6-II series? |
| 21:29.51 | Wyzard | UnKnowN_: "wall" or "write"... people already told you earlier |
| 21:30.02 | UnKnowN_ | ohhhhhhh |
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| 21:30.16 | UnKnowN_ | wall then messeges? |
| 21:30.29 | Wyzard | Beers: The "686" variant should work for that |
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| 21:30.38 | Beers | ok |
| 21:31.02 | [Cadet] | UnKnowN_: man wall |
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| 21:32.00 | UnKnowN_ | stdin not found |
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| 21:33.24 | [t0rc] | I downloaded/installed all the system updates, and now I get this when trying to boot: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) any fixes or do I just need to suck it up and reformat? |
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| 21:33.49 | iara | hi all!!! |
| 21:33.52 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Were you running a custom-compiled kernel before and now you're using a precompiled kernel? |
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| 21:34.02 | iara | anybody know if exist any package to read .sit extension??? |
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| 21:34.13 | kevinv | What is the Ipp Service running on Port 631? |
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| 21:34.25 | Wyzard | iara: "apt-cache search stuffit" doesn't turn anything up |
| 21:34.27 | Wyzard | kevinv: CUPS |
| 21:34.34 | kevinv | It seems to always have activity on the Firewall. |
| 21:34.44 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: nope |
| 21:34.45 | UnKnowN_ | wall isn't working |
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| 21:34.53 | fazla_ | mhall i couldn't find right protocol already :s |
| 21:34.55 | Wyzard | kevinv: It broadcasts announcements of its available printers every minute or so |
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| 21:35.23 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Well, it seems like for whatever reason you don't have a correct "root=" parameter in your GRUB or LILO config |
| 21:35.28 | iara | Wyzard: with what repositories? |
| 21:35.28 | pusling | is there a way thru a script to send a key combination to a x-window ? |
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| 21:35.42 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: though if you were using a precompiled kernel previously, I don't see how it would've worked then |
| 21:35.44 | Wyzard | iara: sid |
| 21:35.45 | mili | hi.. I |
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| 21:35.47 | mili | ops.. |
| 21:36.01 | iara | in the official repositories? |
| 21:36.07 | Wyzard | iara: yes |
| 21:36.09 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: well that's what i thought, but I checked everything and nothing changed. |
| 21:36.15 | fazla_ | CeLo_X ne tur mouse kullaniyosun? |
| 21:36.20 | mili | I wonder about how to resize a extended partision? |
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| 21:36.29 | iara | i'm going to try that |
| 21:36.32 | kevinv | Wyard: Strange though, I look at the netstat applet, and data in always going INBOUND. Even when no Internet app is open. So I installed 'FireStarter' to find out what is open. And it was Ipp, but only localhost to localhost. |
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| 21:36.34 | CeLo_X | slm |
| 21:36.40 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: *Do* you have the "root=" parameter? |
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| 21:36.44 | mhall | mili: depends, what's in it |
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| 21:36.49 | BucWheat_ | howdy all |
| 21:36.52 | CeLo_X | mousum usb |
| 21:37.02 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: yes, you want me to type it? |
| 21:37.08 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: No, that's OK |
| 21:37.16 | darky | Please, I can t do my logitech quickcam work, the right module is loaded but when I plug the webcam in, it doesn t link it to the cam and I can t open /dev/video0 : no such device |
| 21:37.17 | mili | mhall, its var/usr/home |
| 21:37.17 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Did you upgrade from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel? |
| 21:37.27 | BucWheat_ | i'm made a web application and i'm using sarge as my OS and i'm looking for some advice on how to allow the user to shutdown and reboot the system |
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| 21:37.37 | mili | mhall, I dont want to delete those partisions |
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| 21:37.54 | Wyzard | BucWheat_: Why would you want web users to be able to reboot the server? |
| 21:38.05 | BucWheat_ | if i just put a reboot feature on the web page then remote users will be able to reboot the machine which is no good |
| 21:38.20 | BucWheat_ | i only need to allow the local users access to reboot or shutdown the system |
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| 21:38.26 | mili | mhall, maybe you can go into #flood.. and i |
| 21:38.44 | Wyzard | BucWheat_: Then the web application has nothing to do with it |
| 21:38.45 | mili | mhall, and i'll show my partisions table |
| 21:38.58 | Wyzard | BucWheat_: Log in with SSH or something to get a shell, and use that to shutdown |
| 21:39.16 | BucWheat_ | how should i do this? i was thinking of writing a script that polled the status of a push button and if the button was pressed it would shut the system down nicely |
| 21:39.19 | Beers | BucWheat_ are you serving this web app using apache i assume? |
| 21:39.28 | BucWheat_ | Beers yes. |
| 21:39.44 | BucWheat_ | as of now the users just hold down the power button to shutdown which is crashing my databases |
| 21:39.52 | Beers | then you want to deny everyone but the localhost of getting access to that website. |
| 21:39.52 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: no, it was 2.6.10 |
| 21:39.56 | BucWheat_ | so i need to figure out a way to shut the system down nicely |
| 21:40.03 | Wyzard | BucWheat_: Then give them accounts with which to log in and shutdown properly |
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| 21:40.13 | Wyzard | BucWheat_: Or set up acpid to intercept power-button presses and do a proper shutdown |
| 21:40.16 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: rather, that's what I installed |
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| 21:40.24 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: off the CD |
| 21:40.32 | Beers | what Wyzard said =P |
| 21:40.37 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Then you already have the necessary initrd entry in your grub/lilo config, I assume |
| 21:40.38 | BucWheat_ | Wyzard is acpid a package? |
| 21:40.42 | Wyzard | BucWheat_: yes |
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| 21:41.09 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: I'm using grub, lilo wouldn't install. there's an initrd line yes |
| 21:41.51 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: All I can conclude is that either your "root=" parameter is missing or wrong, or your initrd parameter is missing or wrong |
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| 21:42.35 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: if I sent them to you would you be able to see what was wrong? (on another note, would they just change themselves like that?) |
| 21:42.39 | BucWheat_ | Wyzard i'm gong to look into acpid now |
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| 21:43.03 | delisin | redhat >><<< debian??? |
| 21:43.11 | delisin | serwer |
| 21:43.24 | delisin | sorry |
| 21:43.31 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Check that they're there, and that the initrd being used is the right one for the kernel being used |
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| 21:43.34 | CeLo_X | :) |
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| 21:43.44 | BucWheat_ | Wyzard thanks |
| 21:43.46 | delisin | :))) |
| 21:43.47 | kevinv | Wyard: I just looked at acpid, and it need a kernel re-compile. |
| 21:43.50 | delisin | celox |
| 21:43.55 | Wyzard | kevinv: No it doesn't |
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| 21:44.04 | kevinv | Wyzard:Your current kernel does not have ACPI support enabled. |
| 21:44.08 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: what do you mean by "the right one" am I looking for a versino number or something? |
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| 21:44.18 | Wyzard | kevinv: What kernel are you using that doesn't have ACPI enabled? |
| 21:44.26 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: yes |
| 21:44.31 | kevinv | Wyzard: 2.6.8 |
| 21:44.35 | BucWheat_ | Wyzard my kernel said the same thing |
| 21:45.07 | Wyzard | OK, general question to everyone... do sarge's precompiled 2.6.8 kernels actually not have ACPI enabled? |
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| 21:45.18 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: okay, brb with the version numbbber. |
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| 21:45.51 | Wyzard | (I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't, since most systems support ACPI nowadays) |
| 21:45.58 | darky | Please, I can t do my logitech quickcam work, the right module is loaded but when I plug the webcam in, it doesn t link it to the cam and I can t open /dev/video0 : no such device |
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| 21:46.36 | Wyzard | darky: What module? |
| 21:46.45 | darky | Wyzard, quickcam |
| 21:47.38 | kevinv | darky: I have a Quickcam VC here, and didn't get it working yet. What is your cam? Just Logitech Quickcam? |
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| 21:48.08 | darky | kevinv, yeah logitech quickcam, even with the modules, it cannot open /dev/video0 |
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| 21:49.12 | Wyzard | darky: I'm not sure that's the right module... the modern color USB ones aren't supported by the driver in the mainstream kernel, AFAIK |
| 21:49.45 | Wyzard | darky: There's a separate "qc-usb" module package which you can build with module-assistant |
| 21:50.26 | darky | Wyzard, I did that |
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| 21:50.42 | darky | Wyzard, I built it and installed it |
| 21:50.56 | darky | Wyzard, now I got to insmod a specific module ? |
| 21:51.30 | darky | Wyzard, because when I plug the cam, it links it with snd-usb-audio module I don t know why |
| 21:52.03 | Wyzard | darky: hmm... seems I'm wrong; "quickcam" is the name of the qc-usb module |
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| 21:52.30 | kevinv | Wyzard, darky: Should hotplug play a role to the so-called linking to '/dev/video0'? Just a suggestion, as my friend cam, hotplug installed, and configured the module. |
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| 21:53.08 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: initrd.img-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic is what it says. it was the only other option other than initrd.img; what should the root look like? |
| 21:54.04 | kevinv | Wyzard: There is a module called 'acpi', but when trying to install it, it gives errors. |
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| 21:55.03 | thecoolestcow | yoo |
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| 21:55.31 | thecoolestcow | can anyone help me out, i need to uninstall glib 2.6.4 |
| 21:55.47 | l3e7kre4p | now nvidia installer.run gives me a warning about my kernel being compiled with a lower gcc ver than the current gcc version |
| 21:55.58 | Langly1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.07 | Wyzard | l3e7kre4p: Don't use the nvidia installer |
| 21:56.16 | l3e7kre4p | ok |
| 21:56.30 | Wyzard | !tell l3e7kre4p about nvidia one-liner |
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| 21:56.46 | kevinv | Langlyl: ooffice, I believe. |
| 21:56.51 | cheal | l3e7kre4p: we won't help you breaking your system |
| 21:57.04 | thecoolestcow | i need help installing Gaim |
| 21:57.04 | cheal | not that much, anyway |
| 21:57.11 | Langly1 | thx kevinv |
| 21:57.12 | kevinv | Langlyl: /usr/bin/ooffice |
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| 21:57.53 | Langly1 | it didnt get installed into my menu's so ill have to add it later, just needed to know how to fire it from cli for now |
| 21:57.58 | l3e7kre4p | then how do i get whats that m-a a-i stuff ? that new? |
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| 21:58.23 | kreg | got an old system and trying to think what the best way to put 4 IDE devices into it are. i have an ide hard drive, ide cdrom, and two ide disks for a raid 0. should i do this -->? hda cdrom on bus0 and raid0 and raid1 on bus1? |
| 21:58.28 | priest | thecoolestcow:: apt-get install gaim? |
| 21:58.34 | thecoolestcow | gaim tells me i need glib 2.0, so i install 2.8.1, retry installing gaim and it tells me that i have 2.6.4 installed and i need to uninstall it |
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| 21:59.28 | cheal | l3e7kre4p: not really |
| 21:59.29 | kreg | hda + cdrom on bus0. and do a software raid0 with the other two discs on bus1 |
| 21:59.34 | [t0rc] | well thnx for your help Wyzard ; guess i'll just clear off the HDD and forgo linux for now. |
| 21:59.36 | cheal | !tell l3e7kre4p about nvidia-howto |
| 21:59.40 | darky | Wyzard, theres a problem with hotplug I think, he does load the module snd-usb-audio as I plug the cam |
| 21:59.44 | cheal | l3e7kre4p: did you read that yet? |
| 22:00.05 | thecoolestcow | priest: i tried that command, it says it cant be installed |
| 22:00.16 | thecoolestcow | priest: i already downloaded gaim 1.5 from the website |
| 22:00.21 | priest | thecoolestcow:: Are you running Debian Stable? |
| 22:00.22 | cheal | thecoolestcow: tell us the output of dpkg -l libglib2.0-0|grep ii |
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| 22:00.38 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Are you running the AMD64 port of Debian? |
| 22:00.47 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Or the x86 (32-bit) port? |
| 22:00.47 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: yes |
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| 22:00.58 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: 64bit |
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| 22:01.14 | thecoolestcow | cheal: ii libglib2.0-0 2.6.4-1 The GLib library of C routines |
| 22:01.16 | l3e7kre4p | q |
| 22:01.30 | z0unds | how do i start the VNC Server for GNOME (vino) ? |
| 22:01.31 | cheal | thecoolestcow: so, you didn't install 2.8.1 |
| 22:01.33 | thecoolestcow | priest: as far as i know i am running the stable |
| 22:01.43 | thecoolestcow | cheal: i did, but i uninstalled it again cuz it was pissing me off |
| 22:01.44 | nicoAMG | Hello everybody! |
| 22:01.46 | thecoolestcow | :D |
| 22:01.55 | thecoolestcow | cheal: should i reinstall it? |
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| 22:02.03 | thecoolestcow | i already configured it |
| 22:02.13 | cheal | thecoolestcow: a library was pissing you off, so you downgraded it? |
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| 22:02.27 | nicoAMG | I need to know how to change usb hotplug device permissions.. |
| 22:02.51 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Well, I think it's stupid to give up on Linux entirely rather than troubleshoot what's probably a fairly simple configuration error... but you said you upgraded a bunch of stuff, and I have no idea what you actually changed |
| 22:02.53 | ke6isf | !tell nicoAMG -about hotplug |
| 22:02.54 | thecoolestcow | cheal: Gaim was telling me that it didnt see a Glib greater than 2.0, so i installed 2.8.1 and it said it already had 2.6.4 installed and that i needed to uninstall it |
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| 22:03.28 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Usually "vmlinuz" and "initrd.img" are symlinks to actual files which have a version number as part of their filename |
| 22:03.39 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 22:04.06 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: i dont remember |
| 22:04.09 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: GLib 2.8 isn't in Debian yet, AFAIK... what did you do, compile it from source? |
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| 22:04.12 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: well right; that's my issue as well. tbh, it's Ubuntu, but since debian based, close enough. I'll more than likely just re-install. |
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| 22:04.38 | ke6isf | [t0rc]: Ah, there's your problem. It's ubuntu. This is #debian, we don't support ubuntu here. |
| 22:04.42 | Wyzard | [t0rc]: Then you should be asking in #ubuntu, not here... Ubuntu has differences from Debian which we don't keep track of |
| 22:04.44 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: yeah |
| 22:04.54 | kevinv | nicoAMG: Hotplug USB files: /etc/hotplug/usb* |
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| 22:04.57 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: i did. no help of course. |
| 22:05.21 | ke6isf | [t0rc]: Try installing Sarge instead, you might be better satisfied. |
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| 22:05.33 | thecoolestcow | i hate being a frikkin n00b. |
| 22:05.37 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: What does your /etc/debian_version say? |
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| 22:05.46 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: It's not a good idea to go overwriting installed packages with custom-compiled copies of different versions |
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| 22:06.06 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: It's best to avoid installing non-packaged stuff at all, in fact, unless you know what you're doing and there's no package available |
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| 22:06.09 | [t0rc] | Wyzard: in any case, thnx for the help. later. |
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| 22:06.21 | nyterukh | hello |
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| 22:06.31 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: 3.1 |
| 22:06.33 | ke6isf | Wyzard: Welcome to Sunday. |
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| 22:06.47 | Wyzard | The reason Gaim was telling you you didn't have GLib 2.0 was because you were trying to compile Gaim from source too, I'll bet... "apt-get install gaim" would have automatically brought in all necessary dependencies |
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| 22:07.20 | kevinv | [t0rc]: You could attempt to do an upgrade from woody->sarge |
| 22:07.33 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: apt-get install gaim gave me some stupid error |
| 22:07.34 | ke6isf | kevinv: You missed. He was running Ubuntu anyway. |
| 22:07.47 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: What error would that be? |
| 22:07.56 | nicoAMG | kevinv: If i have a webcam, and if i want to change the default device permissions to /dev/video0 ... where to start? |
| 22:08.03 | kevinv | ke6isf: Ah, thanks. |
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| 22:08.10 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 22:08.10 | thecoolestcow | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 22:08.10 | thecoolestcow | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 22:08.10 | thecoolestcow | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
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| 22:08.36 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: did you get that....? |
| 22:08.44 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: We got the first four lines. |
| 22:08.46 | ke6isf | !flood |
| 22:08.46 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 22:08.54 | thecoolestcow | yeah, i didnt mean to |
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| 22:09.00 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Use the pastebin, Luke. |
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| 22:09.18 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: too bad i'm a noob and have no clue what that is |
| 22:09.23 | thecoolestcow | ;) |
| 22:09.36 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: It's the URL at the end of dpkg's last message here in the channel. |
| 22:09.45 | Gnea | !pastebin |
| 22:09.45 | dpkg | pastebin is probably a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca |
| 22:09.45 | overflow | Hi, one question should I recompile my kernel in etch with the gcc4 ? |
| 22:09.55 | UnKnowN_ | How do you check system logs |
| 22:10.04 | Gnea | overflow: what cpu? |
| 22:10.07 | UnKnowN_ | Something sent the killall singal :P |
| 22:10.24 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: cat? less? tail? in /var/log/ |
| 22:10.27 | thecoolestcow | http://channels.debian.net/paste/696. |
| 22:10.28 | overflow | Gnea, intel |
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| 22:10.58 | overflow | Gnea, Pentium IV |
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| 22:11.06 | UnKnowN_ | um which log |
| 22:11.14 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: http://channels.debian.net/paste/696. |
| 22:11.26 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Stick your /etc/apt/sources.list up in another pastebin, please. |
| 22:11.41 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: you should know... what are you searching for? |
| 22:11.48 | kevinv | nicoAMG: edit the file /etc/udev/permissions.rules, this file sets the permission for devices in /dev |
| 22:11.55 | UnKnowN_ | killall signakl |
| 22:12.18 | Gnea | overflow: p4? ok, standard p4 or em64t? |
| 22:12.44 | overflow | Gnea, standard P4 HT |
| 22:12.49 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: be more specific |
| 22:12.54 | Gnea | overflow: so it's a 32bit cpu |
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| 22:13.08 | thecoolestcow | http://channels.debian.net/paste/697 |
| 22:13.11 | UnKnowN_ | Someone as root sent a killall signal into the system |
| 22:13.19 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: http://channels.debian.net/paste/697 |
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| 22:13.28 | kevinv | nicoAMG: Check out it's manpage: man udev |
| 22:13.33 | overflow | Gnea, yes it is |
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| 22:13.44 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Oh, there's your problem. As root, run apt-setup. |
| 22:13.45 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: i don't think that's logged somewhere |
| 22:13.53 | romulo | debhelper, lame? |
| 22:13.53 | kevinv | nicoAMG: It explains how to create and/or modify existing device permissions |
| 22:14.02 | UnKnowN_ | your kidding me |
| 22:14.04 | romulo | whats the lame package name? |
| 22:14.06 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: You installed Debian from CDs, and when it asked you to insert additional CDs to be scanned for packages, you didn't |
| 22:14.07 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: oh, do i have to run it as http? |
| 22:14.15 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: No, you run it from a command line. |
| 22:14.20 | Gnea | !tell UnKnowN_ about newbie-guide |
| 22:14.22 | ke6isf | !apt-setup |
| 22:14.24 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: yeah, i did, but only the first cd package |
| 22:14.26 | dpkg | [apt-setup] a means of adding deb/deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that you can install packages from the internet. To install from a cd-rom ask me about 'apt-cdrom'. |
| 22:14.26 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: So apt only knows about packages on the first CD, and that's why it can't find libao2, etc. |
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| 22:14.33 | nkuttler | UnKnowN_: talk to whoever root is |
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| 22:14.45 | Gnea | overflow: stick with 3.4 then, 4.0 is geared toward the 64bit platform |
| 22:14.55 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: Add the rest of your CDs, and/or add an HTTP source so it can download packages |
| 22:14.56 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: ?? i'm in apt-setup... |
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| 22:15.54 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Follow instructions. Pick a protocol - I'm biased to ftp, but you can use http if you want, it doesn't matter. |
| 22:15.54 | Gnea | overflow: i've seen X puke just because a kernel was compiled with 4.0 |
| 22:15.54 | overflow | Gnea, well but the dist-upgrade installed the gcc4 automatically |
| 22:15.54 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: When you're done with that, run "apt-cdrom add" to scan the rest of your CDs |
| 22:15.54 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: ok, i'll select ftp, then what |
| 22:15.55 | cheal | !tell romulo about lame |
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| 22:15.58 | Gnea | overflow: so? just uninstall it. you have complete control over your system |
| 22:15.59 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: It should start giving a list of geographical locations. Pick the closest one that works. |
| 22:16.08 | Wyzard | overflow: If you're compiling a new kernel, sure, use 4.0... but you don't need to recompile your existing kernel just to use 4.0 |
| 22:16.33 | ke6isf | Wyzard: He's on a cable modem, we can do over the network. It's better that way anyway. |
| 22:16.38 | Wyzard | Gnea: I'm running a 4.0-compiled 2.6.12 right now, in X with the nVidia driver (also compiled with 4.0), with no problems |
| 22:16.50 | cheal | romulo: debhelper is an eggdrop bot. dpkg is the channel's blootbot |
| 22:16.52 | UnKnowN_ | whats it mean when you try to connect to and irc server and it says Invalid Arguement |
| 22:17.04 | overflow | Gnea, well, Xorg did'nt work with my nvidia, so I tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers and the installer show me an error because the gcc4 is what I have and the kernel is compiled with gcc3 |
| 22:17.08 | Gnea | Wyzard: what arch? |
| 22:17.16 | Wyzard | Gnea: x86 |
| 22:17.18 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: sweet, i did the apt-get install gaim |
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| 22:17.27 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Sounds like it worked then? |
| 22:17.31 | Gnea | Wyzard: intel or amd? |
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| 22:17.36 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: yeah, i'm downloading it and crap |
| 22:17.37 | Wyzard | Gnea: AMD |
| 22:17.46 | Gnea | Wyzard: xp? |
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| 22:17.54 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Woohoo! |
| 22:17.56 | Wyzard | Gnea: Thunderbird, actually... I've had this system for a few years |
| 22:18.02 | Gnea | HRM |
| 22:18.13 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf and wyzard: thanks dudes |
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| 22:18.29 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: When that's done, do 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'. Also, when you get a few minutes, also pick a couple more servers from apt-setup, and comment out the CDROM lines in your sources. |
| 22:18.29 | Gnea | Wyzard: i had crashes on an athlon-xp with gcc4 |
| 22:18.38 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: so, from now on, when i need a package i can just do that command? |
| 22:18.41 | Gnea | now the mobo died, gotta go get a new one |
| 22:18.42 | fazla | how can i install xmms's stable packets via apt-get ? i'm using unstable debian |
| 22:18.43 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Yeah. |
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| 22:19.08 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: what do you mean comment out hte cdrom lines in my sources...? |
| 22:19.16 | Gnea | i should probably go do that now... |
| 22:19.24 | Langly1 | is there a way I can put a timed delay on a command in /opt/bootlocal.sh |
| 22:19.26 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Put a # before them. You won't really need them now, since everything will just install over the network. |
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| 22:19.47 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Also, at the end of each of the lines, put 'contrib non-free'. |
| 22:20.04 | nicoAMG | kevinv: i'm conecting a usb camera, then the device driver is created with like that: crw------- 1 mgmora root /dev/video0 |
| 22:20.05 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: i have no idea what youre talking about :-/ what sources? |
| 22:20.29 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: sources is /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 22:20.36 | thecoolestcow | oh |
| 22:20.59 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: You'll need a text editor for that - if you know notepad, you'll probably like gedit. |
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| 22:21.16 | john | if i change shells, from "bash" to whatever.. and i made it perm, it shows my shell as the new shell and not bash.. and i reopen eterm/xterm, and it still starts in bash.. how can i "refresh" this change? |
| 22:21.32 | ke6isf | john: Log out and log back in? |
| 22:21.44 | john | from X? |
| 22:21.46 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: ah gayy, i opened it with gedit and it's read only |
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| 22:22.27 | nicoAMG | kevinv: the simlink /dev/video has the following permissions lrwxrwxrwx root root /dev/video -> video0 |
| 22:22.33 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: That's because it's only modifiable by root,and it has nothing to do with being "gay" |
| 22:23.10 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: oh, yeah. that brings up another issue: why can't i log in as root in the login screen? |
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| 22:23.19 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: Because you shouldn't |
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| 22:23.28 | foca | masss ya toy |
| 22:23.29 | thecoolestcow | wyzard: how else do i do it, then...? |
| 22:23.37 | john | console? |
| 22:23.37 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: You need to be root to do that. su, enter your root password, and try it again. |
| 22:23.38 | overflow | Wyzard, do u know how to make the nvidia driver to use gcc 3 version? |
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| 22:23.59 | john | thecoolestcow: logging into X as "root" is a bad bad choice. |
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| 22:24.07 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: Log in as a normal user and then use "su" (from a command prompt) or "run as different user" (from the GNOME "System Tools" menu) |
| 22:24.19 | thecoolestcow | ok then. |
| 22:24.32 | Analyser | hi, someone know a apt repository for elinghtenment dr17? |
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| 22:25.33 | nicoAMG | GnomeMeeting doesn?t find the webcam, i don't know why? |
| 22:26.43 | amphi | Analyser: apt-get.org or backports.org perhaps |
| 22:27.24 | abrotman | !dr17 |
| 22:27.24 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 22:27.26 | kreg | know how to do a fsck on a software raid 0? |
| 22:27.28 | abrotman | Analyser: ^^ |
| 22:27.29 | Analyser | amphi: i already looked in those search engines |
| 22:27.38 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: got a question, how exactly do i upgrade Gaim? does it have something to do with apt-upgrade/update? |
| 22:27.39 | Analyser | !dr17 |
| 22:27.40 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/ |
| 22:28.01 | Analyser | abrotman: thank you |
| 22:28.34 | thingfish | thecoolestcow: which debian are you using? |
| 22:28.38 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: gaim is, for all intents, at its most recent version. |
| 22:28.44 | ke6isf | thingfish: sarge. |
| 22:28.50 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: "update" downloads current lists of available packages; "upgrade" installs new versions that the system now knows about because it has new package lists |
| 22:29.17 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: There are occasional backports in Sarge that pretty much keep things relatively current, but it's mostly security issues that get backported. |
| 22:29.32 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf and wyzard: word. |
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| 22:29.53 | abrotman | ke6isf: there are no official updates other than RC bugs or security fixes .. backports aren't part of debian |
| 22:30.00 | Wyzard | thecoolestcow: You won't often see new versions of things in a stable release though... the only changes made are security fixes |
| 22:30.18 | thecoolestcow | wyzarD: ok |
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| 22:30.34 | ke6isf | abrotman: ...what you said. Terminology went in the blender again for me. Thanks. =^_^= |
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| 22:32.02 | ne | does anybody here hear me or do i need to register my nick or something before talking into a channel ? |
| 22:32.17 | thecoolestcow | i can't hear you ne |
| 22:32.36 | ne | thecoolestcow thank you |
| 22:33.24 | thingfish | yes, try typing louder, please. |
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| 22:33.33 | ne | thecoolestcow once upon a time there was i nickserv bot that always asked to change nick etc..., is it over ? |
| 22:33.49 | rking | is it a faux pas to say, "wow, you're wife is {hot,beautiful}"? |
| 22:33.54 | thecoolestcow | ne, i dono, it asked me to change nick |
| 22:33.58 | ke6isf | ne: Nickserv is still around, but will do so only if somebody else has registered a nick. |
| 22:34.00 | thingfish | rking: in that way, yes. |
| 22:34.08 | rking | thingfish: what's the polite way? |
| 22:34.31 | thingfish | rking: a more correct way would be to comment, "You have a lovely wife." |
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| 22:34.51 | fazla | where can i find lexmark x1180 printer driver for debian ? |
| 22:34.54 | rking | thingfish: ahh, ok. |
| 22:35.10 | rking | makes sens. =) |
| 22:35.16 | rking | +e |
| 22:35.23 | eguzkia | www.911inplanesite.com |
| 22:35.27 | abrotman | linux-printing.org ? |
| 22:35.35 | ne | does anybody here has good CSS2 knowledge ? the #css channel seems dead |
| 22:35.43 | thingfish | rking: and remember, you must be properly introduced before you ask to bone her. |
| 22:35.45 | abrotman | eguzkia: what about it ? |
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| 22:36.31 | Wyzard | fazla: http://www.linuxprinting.org/ would be the place to look |
| 22:36.36 | Wyzard | abrotman: ^^^ no hyphen |
| 22:36.43 | eguzkia | abortman:the true |
| 22:36.54 | ke6isf | eguzkia: Wow, conspiracy theories. *plonk* |
| 22:36.54 | eguzkia | abrotman:the true |
| 22:36.58 | abrotman | eguzkia: you mean you're spamming the channel ? |
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| 22:37.21 | RWG | hello |
| 22:37.27 | eguzkia | ke6isf:isn't theories |
| 22:37.36 | eguzkia | ke6isf:is reality! |
| 22:37.45 | RWG | What's +e? |
| 22:37.47 | abrotman | eguzkia: stop spamming us .. go away |
| 22:37.53 | abrotman | !fnode modes |
| 22:37.56 | abrotman | uhm |
| 22:38.03 | abrotman | RWG: check the freenode faq |
| 22:38.07 | RWG | ok |
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| 22:38.18 | lakcaj | !fn modes |
| 22:38.18 | dpkg | hmm... umodes is http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 22:38.21 | eguzkia | abrotman: be quiet please |
| 22:38.42 | thingfish | eguzkia, you seem like the one who needs to be quiet. |
| 22:38.44 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: yo dude, how do i know what packages are available? where is there a list? |
| 22:38.48 | abrotman | eguzkia: stop spamming the channel .. please leave |
| 22:38.52 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: synaptic |
| 22:39.15 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: that means nothing to me. what do you mean |
| 22:39.27 | kpkg | i install thunderbird and i configure it for a gmail account and the pop3 is working fine, but the smpt dont, i have a message that say can't connect to smtp server. I must to configure any MTA for thunderbird working? |
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| 22:39.51 | abrotman | kpkg: can you connect to any other external smtp server? |
| 22:39.52 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: synaptic is a graphical front end to APT, and will show a complete list of all packages available. |
| 22:39.55 | amphi | kpkg: no, it should use yr isp's smtp server |
| 22:40.10 | thecoolestcow | ke6isf: and how do i access it? |
| 22:40.15 | EdLin | kpkg: you can use it with gmail, just configure it for TLS and for port 465 or 587 |
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| 22:40.23 | lakcaj | !tell thecoolestcow about giyf |
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| 22:40.34 | ke6isf | thecoolestcow: Type 'synaptic' as root. If it's not there, 'apt-get install synaptic', and repeat. |
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| 22:40.46 | RWG | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.58 | thunderpants | hello |
| 22:41.00 | ke6isf | RWG: You are truly a masochist. |
| 22:41.14 | thunderpants | thankyou |
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| 22:41.33 | abrotman | why? |
| 22:41.54 | RWG | ... |
| 22:41.58 | abrotman | not you |
| 22:42.01 | thunderpants | i liked the name |
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| 22:42.11 | abrotman | not you either |
| 22:42.18 | RWG | Kerr: What was that all about? |
| 22:42.27 | RWG | *ke6: What was that all about? |
| 22:42.35 | RWG | ke6isf: What was that all about?* |
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| 22:42.49 | ke6isf | abrotman, RWG: Removing the filter. The spambots and all that. |
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| 22:43.24 | abrotman | i know |
| 22:43.26 | abrotman | don't tell me |
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| 22:43.38 | ke6isf | abrotman: ...oh. Sorry. |
| 22:43.57 | kpkg | abrotman, yes, i already try other smtp server but i have the same message |
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| 22:44.11 | abrotman | kpkg: perhaps your ISP blocks outgoing smtp ? |
| 22:44.32 | kpkg | abrotman, in the windows box i have the same config and smtp works |
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| 22:45.29 | abrotman | kpkg: and your error message is ? |
| 22:45.45 | thunderpants | any girls on right now |
| 22:45.51 | Althaser | which tool I must use to format one partition ? please |
| 22:45.56 | abrotman | thunderpants: this is NOT the channel for that .. try another channel |
| 22:46.02 | overflow | Damn, I can compile the nvidia kernel only with the gcc-4.0 package .... |
| 22:46.23 | Wyzard | overflow: Why's that? |
| 22:46.30 | kpkg | cant' connect to smtp server. The server must be with problems. Please check your configurations ofn email account |
| 22:46.47 | abrotman | that's not an error message from your logs |
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| 22:47.40 | overflow | Wyzard, coz If I remove it the installer say that it didn't find the cc file |
| 22:47.41 | lakcaj | Althaser, what filesystem do you want to format with? |
| 22:47.48 | overflow | Wyzard, the compiler I mean |
| 22:47.49 | Althaser | lakcaj vfat |
| 22:48.14 | lakcaj | Althaser, mkfs.vfat /dev/blablabla |
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| 22:48.29 | kpkg | abrotman, where i can see log messages for smtp? |
| 22:48.48 | abrotman | /var/log/ ? whereever your smtp server puts them ... |
| 22:48.51 | overflow | Wyzard, ERROR: Unable to find the development tool `cc` in your path; please make sure that you have the package 'gcc' installed. If gcc is installed on your |
| 22:48.51 | overflow | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.06 | rking | does anyone know if amharic is supported by a semi-default debian box? that is, if you do a standard desktop install, and then change the Google language pref to amharic, will it view ok? it works for me, but i have a half-dozen extra font packages installed (all for i18n purposes) |
| 22:49.23 | overflow | Wyzard, An idea? |
| 22:49.28 | overflow | Wyzard, Any idea? |
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| 22:49.41 | abrotman | !b-e Overand |
| 22:49.41 | dpkg | Overand: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 22:49.44 | abrotman | !b-e Overfiend |
| 22:49.46 | dpkg | Overfiend: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 22:49.47 | abrotman | oh ffs .. i give up |
| 22:49.58 | ke6isf | !coffee abrotman |
| 22:49.59 | abrotman | !punish abrotman's fingers |
| 22:50.11 | Seb | heh |
| 22:50.17 | ke6isf | abrotman's fingers have balls? |
| 22:50.19 | lakcaj | you're fingers have balls? |
| 22:50.23 | lakcaj | your even |
| 22:50.26 | abrotman | does that bother you? |
| 22:50.35 | Phated | HEH. |
| 22:50.38 | lakcaj | not if it doesn't bother you |
| 22:50.50 | ke6isf | abrotman: Actually, yes, yes it does. Your fingers are not anatomically correct. =^_^= |
| 22:51.19 | Phated | Then again, his fingers are capable of reproducing, on the off-chance there a nasty accident. |
| 22:51.26 | kpkg | abrotman, i dont even know which is my smtp server |
| 22:51.31 | ke6isf | Planarian fingers! |
| 22:51.43 | abrotman | then how did you configure it? |
| 22:51.54 | abrotman | how could you not know which SMTP server you have .. but still manage to configure it ? |
| 22:51.59 | Phated | Heh. |
| 22:52.00 | kpkg | abrotman, in the thunderbir account configurations |
| 22:52.13 | abrotman | that's not an smtp server |
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| 22:53.06 | abrotman | kpkg: thunderbird works in windows ? |
| 22:53.28 | kpkg | abrotman, yes, perfect |
| 22:53.35 | RWG | I have it |
| 22:53.48 | abrotman | kpkg: i'd double check your config .. |
| 22:53.52 | RWG | On all computers |
| 22:54.27 | EdLin | kpkg: have you followed my suggestion? It's how I got it to work here, the instructions on the gmail website. |
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| 22:55.22 | EdLin | s/on/are on/ |
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| 22:55.44 | michal` | hey |
| 22:56.08 | michal` | i'd like to know c/cxx/ld flags debian packages are beeing build with |
| 22:56.35 | kpkg | EdLin, yes, i try your suggestion but it doesn't work :/ |
| 22:56.36 | michal` | i find them really speedy and would like to keep my hand compilled packages in sync with it |
| 22:56.39 | abrotman | check the build rules |
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| 22:56.57 | michal` | abrotman: where do i find them ? |
| 22:57.08 | EdLin | kpkg: then maybe you made a mistake in following it, or perhaps your ISP blocks all smtp, even the alternative gmail port. |
| 22:57.11 | Althaser | lakcaj thanks a lot |
| 22:58.00 | kpkg | EdLin, but in windows i have the same config in thunderbird and the smtp works fine. So i think the problem is in my debian box |
| 22:58.20 | EdLin | kpkg: since I've run Thunderbird in Debian before I think PEBKAC |
| 22:58.32 | EdLin | (with gmail) |
| 22:58.37 | Fluten | can i change the speed of my cdreader in linux? whenever i use cdrdao to do an on the fly copy, the analyzing of the cd will lock up my system |
| 22:58.48 | lakcaj | np Althaser |
| 22:58.59 | kpkg | EdLin, PEBKAC? what is that? |
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| 22:59.03 | anakinskywalker | i already did the alsaconf and saw the sound card, after installtion it seems nothings happen |
| 22:59.12 | peterS | kpkg: "problem exists between keyboard and chair". i.e., user error |
| 22:59.18 | funkyHat | how can i make debian automatically keep up to date? |
| 22:59.21 | peterS | Fluten: that's application-specific. you need to figure out whether cdrdao can be told this |
| 22:59.27 | funkyHat | like, update itself every night or something |
| 22:59.30 | Althaser | lakcaj -:) |
| 22:59.40 | Analyser | i have testing and unstable sources in my sources.list, the prerence in apt.conf is seted to testing packages, but i want download a package which exists in testing and the unstable version, but i want the unstable one, how i say to apt: download the version from unstable ? |
| 22:59.43 | abrotman | michal`: in the source packages |
| 22:59.50 | lakcaj | anakinskywalker, maybe check with alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted and the volumes are turned up. |
| 22:59.54 | abrotman | Analyser: man apt-get |
| 22:59.57 | `bykte | what if i am sitting on a sofa? does that means the tv is at fault? |
| 23:00.09 | Fluten | peterS, hmm, only thing in the man page is write speed; ill email them and ask, thanks anyways |
| 23:00.11 | EdLin | funkyHat: try a cronjob. |
| 23:00.50 | peterS | Fluten: for read speed I'm not sure if an app *can* control this. or whether the kernel can, if an app is something like cdrdao which uses low-level calls |
| 23:00.54 | funkyHat | good idea :) |
| 23:01.10 | anakinskywalker | lakcaj: i got this error "Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found". but mixer and sound volume are exist |
| 23:01.43 | Fluten | peterS, i see that the -E option in hdparm can set cdrom speed, but i'm using it on scsi emulation |
| 23:01.54 | peterS | michal`: also you might try surfing to http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=SOURCEPACKAGENAME |
| 23:02.02 | lakcaj | anakinskywalker, audio has always "just worked" for me |
| 23:02.11 | michal` | thx, will go both ways |
| 23:02.14 | peterS | michal`: where SOURCEPACKAGENAME is the name of your source package, which you can get from 'apt-cache show packagename | grep Source' |
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| 23:02.25 | anakinskywalker | so what can i do? |
| 23:02.39 | lakcaj | !tell anakinskywalker about alsa one-liner |
| 23:02.42 | beardy | Fluten: If the drive is SCSI-emulated, you can't use hdparm on it. |
| 23:02.44 | anakinskywalker | ok |
| 23:02.45 | peterS | michal`: there you will see build logs from the autobuilders. which will be for every architecture except the one the maintainer uses, which is usually i386 or powerpc |
| 23:02.51 | lakcaj | anakinskywalker, that's what I do, but I also install alsa-oss |
| 23:03.17 | peterS | Fluten: hmmm, try it anyway with /dev/scd0. a few hdparm options are supported with scsi, most aren't |
| 23:04.01 | Fluten | peterS, ill do it when its done burning, and test it with a cd-rw; don't want to ruin a cd-r |
| 23:04.08 | peterS | Fluten: right, of course (: |
| 23:04.20 | peterS | Fluten: it will probably just tell you it can't set that option at all |
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| 23:07.04 | kpkg | EdLin, i reconfigure everything in my account and the smtp works know, so it's really PEBKAC :P |
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| 23:08.59 | abrotman | i said that :) |
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| 23:09.37 | kpkg | btw, is any option in thunderbird where i can put thunderbird in the tray ou dock or wathever is the name? |
| 23:10.14 | Gnea | kpkg: tray? |
| 23:10.46 | kpkg | Gnea, i don't know the name, in right of the clock in gnome |
| 23:11.00 | Gnea | oh, er |
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| 23:11.41 | Gnea | kpkg: not sure, there's not an applet for it? |
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| 23:12.35 | abrotman | you would need thunderbird-gnome support .. i'm not sure it has any |
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| 23:15.50 | phaedral | afternoon all |
| 23:15.56 | CaT[tm] | what's the difference btween busybox-cvs and busybox? |
| 23:16.24 | Gnea | CaT[tm]: cvs is a development version (newer, but prone to not working right) |
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| 23:17.22 | CaT[tm] | gnea: you sure? they both seem kinda ancient. (sid one fails to compile right too :/) |
| 23:17.49 | Gnea | CaT[tm]: 100% |
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| 23:18.25 | Gnea | CaT[tm]: so, what you're saying is that you're trying to compile an unstable branch of busybox on the unstable branch of debian? |
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| 23:18.46 | abrotman | hmm .. dinner ... |
| 23:18.48 | Gnea | CaT[tm]: the difference is that one is stable and one is not |
| 23:19.13 | karma1 | quick question: I cant seem to find the .xsession file, where would it be, or do I need to create one? |
| 23:19.56 | CaT[tm] | gnea: cool. thanks. *nod* I think I'll be trying to get the one from sid to compile. if I'm gonna go for newer and less stable I might aswell do it right. :) |
| 23:20.20 | nkuttler | karma1: in your home directory, create it |
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| 23:20.31 | beardy | karma1: 'locate .xsession' |
| 23:20.36 | anakinskywalker | so desperate in this sound card |
| 23:20.40 | anakinskywalker | still nothing happen |
| 23:20.44 | Gnea | CaT[tm]: good luck :) |
| 23:20.47 | anakinskywalker | i already do the alsa thing |
| 23:20.52 | anakinskywalker | still nothing happen |
| 23:20.58 | CaT[tm] | gnea: thanks :) |
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| 23:21.57 | CaT[tm] | i can't believe how totally useless the mandrake busybox is. |
| 23:23.10 | beardy | CaT[tm]: Why are you using that? |
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| 23:23.30 | CaT[tm] | beardy: because the sysadmin before me had a very cunning plan. |
| 23:23.48 | beardy | CaT[tm]: Which was? :) |
| 23:24.10 | CaT[tm] | beardy: 'I'll run mandrake on our servers for it just installs' |
| 23:24.22 | beardy | CaT[tm]: And then he got fired? |
| 23:24.27 | Gnea | CaT[tm]: IOW, he had no vision. |
| 23:24.34 | CaT[tm] | beardy: no. he owns the business :) |
| 23:24.46 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 23:24.48 | beardy | CaT[tm]: Ah, yeah, if not down, go up.. |
| 23:24.50 | Gnea | nice one |
| 23:24.57 | beardy | heh |
| 23:25.13 | jay_ | I saw a screenshot of someones desktop in which they had a terminal embeded in the desktop with no frame. I haven't been able to find a site that tells you how to do that. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 23:25.33 | CaT[tm] | beardy: least I get further experience in why debian is nice :) |
| 23:25.39 | Zweideutig | jay_: WTF would you put a terminal in your root window? |
| 23:25.43 | Gnea | jay_: that would be a borderless, translucent Eterm most likely |
| 23:25.44 | covux | jay_: maybe a superkaramba theme |
| 23:26.08 | Zweideutig | jay_: That sounds like a useless place to have a terminal. |
| 23:26.35 | Zweideutig | jay_: You'd have to minimize all your other windows to see the terminal properly. |
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| 23:26.48 | Gnea | Zweideutig: you are mistaken. |
| 23:26.56 | beardy | Zweideutig: It looks 1337, perhaps.. |
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| 23:27.14 | Zweideutig | Gnea: Mistaken about what he wants? |
| 23:27.18 | jay_ | it just seems like it would be a little quicker to click the show desktop and be at a terminal than to navigat to the proper menu |
| 23:27.20 | Fluten | peterS, fixed now, looks like all i had to do was nice it to 19 |
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| 23:27.54 | Gnea | you don't understand it, so you think it 'sucks' or is '1337'. |
| 23:27.56 | Gnea | lame. |
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| 23:28.04 | Zweideutig | jay_: But you haven't figured in the clicks required to get all your windows back to normal. |
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| 23:28.11 | kingtux | I have my debain server configured as a cups server...The server can print and scan fine.....I'm trying to configure my suse 9.3 laptop as a cups client |
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| 23:28.23 | Zweideutig | jay_: I just use multiple workspaces. |
| 23:28.32 | kingtux | I scan my network for a cups server but suse doesn't find it?? any ideas |
| 23:28.46 | Zweideutig | jay_: Then I can click the first workspace and get back to irssi with one click. |
| 23:28.54 | Guerin | kingtux: choose ipp and give it http://your.cups.ser.ver:whateverportcupslistenson |
| 23:28.54 | Wyzard | kingtux: If you configure CUPS to broadcast availablity announcements, the SuSE system should automatically see the available printers |
| 23:29.03 | beardy | Gnea: I understand what he means perfectly. |
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| 23:29.27 | Wyzard | kingtux: Well... if you *only* have the CUPS client on the SuSE box, you'll need to edit /etc/cups/client.conf and fill in the ServerName of the CUPS server |
| 23:29.46 | kingtux | I'm not sure if i setup my server like that?? I basically setup defaults |
| 23:29.46 | jay_ | the show desktop button will minimize all windows and when you click it again, it will put them all back to their original state |
| 23:29.53 | beardy | Gnea: But I don't agree that it would be that usable. |
| 23:29.55 | kingtux | let me check |
| 23:30.08 | Zweideutig | Gnea: I don't understand why he wants it, but I understand what he wants. |
| 23:30.10 | Guerin | i just use alt/tab |
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| 23:30.19 | Wyzard | kingtux: But the common practice would be to install the CUPS daemon on the SuSE box too, where it'll listen for availability announcements from other servers on the network and make them available to local clients |
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| 23:30.32 | Gnea | Zweideutig: then leave your opinion out of it. |
| 23:30.42 | Guerin | what care i for multiple workspaces if I can only see a certain number of windows onscreen at once |
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| 23:30.51 | kingtux | i have cups server installed on suse too |
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| 23:31.02 | Gnea | jay_: http://gnea.net/gallery/screenshots/e17_ss?full=1 <-- like that? |
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| 23:31.22 | Wyzard | kingtux: Configure the one with the printers to broadcast browse announcements on the local network |
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| 23:31.34 | chance2105 | I'm installing debian on this x86 box .. and it has a bad case of "everything that should be in /dev/ is not in /dev/". Is there something up with my udev or .. ? |
| 23:31.54 | bonez39 | any Mailman gurus in the crowd today? I need help with the /cgi-bin/ part of my mailman installation |
| 23:31.55 | Wyzard | kingtux: After you do that, unless either of the machines has a firewall in the way that doesn't allow IPP through, the SuSE box should automatically "find" the queues on the server, within about 30 seconds |
| 23:31.58 | kingtux | Wyzard: how do u do that |
| 23:32.09 | Zweideutig | !u |
| 23:32.09 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 23:32.23 | Wyzard | kingtux: Just look for the word "Browse" in /etc/cups/cups.conf... you'll find it |
| 23:32.42 | kingtux | on the server side right |
| 23:32.53 | kingtux | doing now |
| 23:33.03 | chance2105 | There's no /dev/dsp, even though oss compat modules are loaded .. :/ |
| 23:33.04 | Wyzard | kingtux: Well, you can configure the SuSE box to broadcast availability too, but it won't make a difference since that box doesn't have any printers of its own |
| 23:33.21 | Guerin | chance2105: alsa and oss loaded together? |
| 23:33.24 | Gnea | chance2105: cat /proc/asound/cards is the card detected? |
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| 23:33.38 | jay_ | yeah, exactly Gnea |
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| 23:33.45 | Wyzard | kingtux: Make sure the SuSE box is configured to actually listen to the browse announcements it receives, but I'm pretty sure that's enabled by default |
| 23:33.49 | kingtux | alot of browse stuff |
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| 23:33.53 | chance2105 | Gnea: yeup |
| 23:34.10 | Gnea | jay_: that's Eterm, without a border, with translucency turned on, running in E17, with dropshadows enabled |
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| 23:34.31 | jay_ | cool thanks |
| 23:34.42 | chance2105 | Gnea: It's there, aRts finds it. I'm just having issues with some programs not being able to access sound .. and I noticed I don't have /dev/dsp. |
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| 23:35.50 | Gnea | chance2105: either snd-pcm-oss.ko didn't get loaded, or OSS modules got loaded accidentally, or aRts is hogging it |
| 23:36.04 | Zweideutig | bonez39: WTF? Don't private message me. |
| 23:36.07 | covux | chance2105: what prog do u wanna use with /dev/dsp? |
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| 23:37.00 | kreg | u, |
| 23:37.01 | kreg | um |
| 23:37.21 | kreg | i upgraded my kerenel with apt (something i usually don't let apt do), and now i don't seem to need a /etc/raidtab |
| 23:37.32 | kreg | what happened? my raids are working on their own now for some reason |
| 23:37.41 | Gnea | kreg: software raid? |
| 23:37.46 | kreg | yes |
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| 23:38.01 | bonez39 | Zweideutig, sorry.... |
| 23:38.05 | Gnea | kreg: have you ever compiled your own?\ |
| 23:38.07 | Wyzard | kreg: The devices in a RAID array contain all the information about the array themselves... raidtab isn't actually needed |
| 23:38.08 | Gnea | -\ |
| 23:38.13 | kreg | usually i only compile my own kernel |
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| 23:38.18 | kreg | i just decided to be lazy for a change |
| 23:38.32 | meff | which font pkgs do i need to install to be able to view japanese chars, etc..? |
| 23:38.33 | Wyzard | kreg: I think raidtools is deprecated, in fact, in favor of mdadm -- which doesn't use a raidtab file |
| 23:38.34 | Gnea | kreg: i usually do too - do yourself a favor: stick to your own builds :) |
| 23:38.34 | Zweideutig | It takes so much time to Alt-P/Alt-N to the window in irssi with the private message from the bonehead, then find out it is just a private message, and think that you might have as well done /wc window_number. |
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| 23:38.41 | Zweideutig | Damn it, bonez39. |
| 23:38.45 | kreg | Gnea, heh heh |
| 23:38.53 | Zweideutig | bonez39: You are on ignore for good. |
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| 23:39.05 | Gnea | ok |
| 23:39.07 | kreg | do you know how to do an fsck on a raid arrary? i dont' think e2fsck is for raid type discs |
| 23:39.10 | Gnea | it's time for a new motherboard |
| 23:39.13 | bonez39 | Zweideutig, wtf....just said I was sorry... |
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| 23:39.20 | kreg | i think my raid0 might have a couple errors on it. |
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| 23:39.37 | Wyzard | kreg: RAID just gives you a block device... as far as putting a filesystem on it, it's no different from a "plain" disk |
| 23:39.53 | Gnea | kreg: get back into your own kernel and go from there - seriously tho, software raid is trechareous |
| 23:40.05 | Wyzard | Gnea: Treacherous? |
| 23:40.07 | kreg | Wyzard, so standard disc scan tools, like fsck, and badblocks should be ok to run while there is data on the raid? |
| 23:40.11 | ke6isf | bonez39: It's impolite to privmsg people without their permission. Just don't. |
| 23:40.14 | Gnea | yeah yeah yeah |
| 23:40.17 | Gnea | youknowwhatimean :) |
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| 23:40.45 | Gnea | !tell bonez39 about msg |
| 23:40.45 | Wyzard | kreg: There's a difference between checking the *contents* of a disk and checking the *disk itself* |
| 23:41.02 | kreg | i guess what i'm saying, is should i fsck the individual disc, like /dev/hdc /dev/hdd or should i fsck /dev/md0 ? |
| 23:41.09 | shoust | anyway i could get a better repositories file? |
| 23:41.20 | kreg | Wyzard, i want to check the health of the software on the disc. |
| 23:41.20 | Gnea | kreg: the howto doesn't explain that? |
| 23:41.21 | Wyzard | kreg: fsck /dev/md0 |
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| 23:41.34 | Gnea | i'd be fscking the the array device, whatever is in /etc/fstab |
| 23:41.35 | ke6isf | shoust: Yeah, apt-setup. |
| 23:41.35 | Wyzard | kreg: /dev/md0 is a virtual disk, basically |
| 23:41.51 | kreg | ok |
| 23:41.52 | kreg | thanks |
| 23:42.02 | Gnea | :) |
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| 23:42.14 | Wyzard | kreg: If you think the disks themselves might have problems, run badblocks on /dev/hdc, etc. directly, just as you would if you weren't using RAID |
| 23:42.25 | kreg | Wyzard, got it |
| 23:42.28 | kreg | thanks dude |
| 23:42.31 | Wyzard | kreg: (but only in read-only mode, if the array is running) |
| 23:42.53 | kreg | Wyzard, ya i typically umount the device before an overnight badblocks run |
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| 23:43.04 | kreg | Wyzard, however i think it's ok to fsck a mounted running dics or arrary |
| 23:43.14 | Wyzard | kreg: It'd also work to mount it read-only |
| 23:43.19 | shoust | where do i get apt-setup? |
| 23:43.33 | ke6isf | shoust: It's part of the apt system. What version of Debian are you running? |
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| 23:43.42 | beardy | shoust: You should have it already. |
| 23:43.43 | Wyzard | kreg: And no, it's not safe to fsck a mounted filesystem (except in read-only mode), no matter what type of device it's stored on |
| 23:43.43 | chance2105 | shoust: should be already installed |
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| 23:44.23 | Wyzard | Gnea: Out of curiosity, why do you think software RAID is "treacherous" ? |
| 23:44.34 | shoust | i'm using another distro but it uses deb's package system |
| 23:44.49 | Wyzard | Gnea: I kinda like the fact that if my ATA controller dies, I don't have to worry about whether the replacement uses the same on-disk RAID format |
| 23:44.58 | kreg | Wyzard, if i mount it read-only, what does that read-only apply to? i have a raid0 just for the sake of large storage. no redundancy. |
| 23:44.58 | Wyzard | shoust: Then ask in that distro's channel |
| 23:45.00 | beardy | shoust: Then ask that distro's channel about it. |
| 23:45.12 | Wyzard | kreg: It means that files in the filesystem can't be modified |
| 23:45.25 | Wyzard | kreg: Do you understand the difference beween a disk and a filesystem? |
| 23:45.28 | kreg | Wyzard, ah, well i write to it all the time so that'd not be too good |
| 23:45.32 | kreg | Wyzard, yes |
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| 23:46.25 | Wyzard | kreg: It's not safe to run fsck on a mounted-writable filesystem because things can change while fsck is running, and confuse it... and ESPECIALLY not safe to allow fsck to make any changes to a filesystem that's mounted writable |
| 23:46.43 | nimak | so whats gonna happen when they run out of toy story characters? |
| 23:46.50 | kreg | Wyzard, ok, i'll umount it before i run fsck on it. |
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| 23:46.53 | Wyzard | kreg: Running a read-only (find errors but don't fix) fsck on a writable filesystem is safe, but might report spurious problems |
| 23:48.11 | cheal | nimak: the issue will be debated if the end of the worls isn't there yet when it happens |
| 23:48.21 | cheal | s/worls/world |
| 23:48.22 | Zweideutig | Damn it. |
| 23:48.31 | kreg | Wyzard, i was running the arrary with both discs on the same bus. i've been getting some " i/o seekerror" stuff reported to the main terminal. so i separated the discs accros two channels hopeing to solve the problem. i'm hoping fsck can help tell if it's still healthy. |
| 23:48.43 | beardy | nimak: There is lot's of soldiers, soldier1, soldier145 and so on. Also, ever had a broken Etch'a'sketch? It's full of grains of sand :) |
| 23:48.45 | Wyzard | kreg: Running a non-read-only fsck on a mounted-read-only filesystem is also safe... there's a small chance that programs reading from the disk while fsck is fixing an error might get confused, but there shouldn't be any permanent damage because, after all, the confused program can't write anything to the filesystem |
| 23:48.49 | CaT[tm] | busybox. lovely emergency use shell :) |
| 23:48.53 | nimak | theres the barrel of monkeys |
| 23:49.16 | kreg | Wyzard, i understand what you mean |
| 23:49.20 | Zweideutig | CaT[tm]: Yeah but what about shell scripting? |
| 23:49.52 | Zweideutig | Lets hope /bin/sh exists for shell scripting purposes. |
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| 23:50.08 | CaT[tm] | zweid: well it's emergency use. it has heaps available for basic scripting though. |
| 23:50.10 | nir_ | hi |
| 23:50.12 | Wyzard | kreg: When your system boots, in fact, it mounts the root filesystem read-only so it can launch init and the startup scripts, and one of the startup scripts runs fsck and then remounts read-write |
| 23:50.27 | kreg | Wyzard, ahhhhh |
| 23:50.39 | Zweideutig | CaT[tm]: Shell scripts are good sometimes in emergency situations. |
| 23:50.41 | CaT[tm] | zweid: you'd basically use it to fix your system where your system has been seriously screwed. |
| 23:50.46 | nir_ | iv installed fluxbox, but i cant find startx in my machine, what did i missed ? |
| 23:50.51 | Zweideutig | CaT[tm]: I know. |
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| 23:51.00 | CaT[tm] | zweid: yes. but aren't 100% necessary. |
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| 23:51.19 | nir_ | ? |
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| 23:51.40 | Zweideutig | I just boot off the install CD (be it Debian Linux or *BSD) and get to a shell. |
| 23:51.41 | ke6isf | !drxx nir |
| 23:51.41 | dpkg | nir: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:51.45 | ke6isf | !drxx nir_ |
| 23:51.45 | dpkg | nir_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:51.47 | ke6isf | ...doh! |
| 23:51.51 | amphi | nir_: apt-get install xbase-clients |
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| 23:52.08 | kreg | Wyzard, that makes more sense now. i always wondered how it managed to do that |
| 23:52.25 | riddlebox | what is the tool that I can use to redo my x server? |
| 23:52.38 | Wyzard | kreg: It does "mount / -o remount,rw" -- that's how you change the writableness of a mounted filesystem without unmounting it |
| 23:52.39 | ke6isf | !tell riddlebox -about drxx |
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| 23:52.44 | CaT[tm] | zweid: yeah but that doesn't help you if you're remote and happen to have a connection to the box. been there and could've used busybox :) |
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| 23:53.09 | bonez39 | ke6isf, I stand f^%$*(&ing corrected......SORRY....... |
| 23:53.20 | Kerr | !lose bonez39 |
| 23:53.21 | dpkg | bonez39: You Lose. |
| 23:53.37 | Kerr | :D |
| 23:53.38 | beardy | !punctuation |
| 23:53.39 | ke6isf | !beer Kerr |
| 23:53.42 | bonez39 | Gnea, I am sorry.......it was an accident....a momentary lapse of reason....I'll take firing squad...ok? |
| 23:53.44 | CaT[tm] | zweid: and busybox has netcat and dpkg. if that you're set :) |
| 23:53.56 | bonez39 | tough crowd here..... |
| 23:54.12 | bonez39 | the arrogance and intolerance is running high this week |
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| 23:54.15 | beardy | bonez39: Thee dots, ... is the most you'll ever need. |
| 23:54.27 | beardy | Three |
| 23:54.32 | Kerr | bonez39: nah, i just like playing with the bot |
| 23:54.34 | ke6isf | bonez39: Welcome to #debian. |
| 23:55.05 | bonez39 | ke6isf, sometimes I come here and find lots of great solutions...lately though it's like getting screwed...WITHOUT the sex... |
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| 23:55.40 | ke6isf | bonez39: You're also dealing with Sunday. All sorts of insanity today. |
| 23:56.00 | Zweideutig | CaT[tm]: Yeah, even here it sucks if I have to hook up a CRT and keyboard just to fix something. |
| 23:56.01 | UnKnowN_ | How do you fix sound on these live installations? |
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| 23:56.40 | beardy | bonez39: You have to ask an answerable question. /msg dpkg ask, /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 23:56.44 | CaT[tm] | and you might be able to get away with doing a sashroot type thing too. logging in might work and with a good static shell you're sweet. |
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| 23:57.15 | beardy | UnKnowN_: define "live installations" |
| 23:57.24 | anakinskywalker | so desperate in this sound card |
| 23:57.28 | anakinskywalker | i already do the alsa thing |
| 23:57.30 | anakinskywalker | still nothing happen |
| 23:57.34 | kreg | Wyzard, is there such a thing as checking the partition health? such as the raid type partition on each /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd ? |
| 23:57.47 | gpm | hey, if i make a backup of an external drive using dd (dd if=/dev/sda3 of=backup) and it's on an hfsplus filesystem and i then try to put the backup onto a sufficiently large vfat partition (dd if=backup of=/dev/hdc), will i have problems because they are different filesystems? |
| 23:57.49 | UnKnowN_ | Knoppix Unbuntu |
| 23:57.57 | beardy | UnKnowN_: Ask them. |
| 23:57.58 | UnKnowN_ | I've practically made this distro not even knoppix |
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| 23:58.08 | UnKnowN_ | I've modfied the hell out of it |
| 23:58.12 | HayArms | Mmm guys, I'd like to have KDE 3.4.2 , do you think is safe to dist-upgrade to SID? |
| 23:58.20 | beardy | UnKnowN_: Then you're on your own. |
| 23:58.22 | bonez39 | beardy, you got me there..I didn't take enough time in formulating my question...thanks for the wake up... |
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| 23:58.22 | gpm | !sid |
| 23:58.23 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 23:58.24 | UnKnowN_ | ;) |
| 23:58.38 | UnKnowN_ | I've unmodified Debian files |
| 23:58.43 | Wyzard | HayArms: Don't upgrade to sid just to get a new version of some program |
| 23:58.44 | cheal | HayArms: there's no such thing as SID |
| 23:58.54 | gpm | !choa |
| 23:58.55 | cheal | !tell HayArms about iyhtays |
| 23:58.56 | gpm | !choad |
| 23:58.56 | UnKnowN_ | im happy its more stable than Knoppix now |
| 23:59.15 | thecoolestcow | hey, i need a hand setting up my printer, anyone able to help? |
| 23:59.35 | gpm | thecoolestcow: just tell what your problem is and see if anyone can help you. that's the best way. |
| 23:59.38 | HayArms | What's iyhtays? |
| 23:59.48 | thecoolestcow | i just don't know how to set it up |